[11:19] <MathGirl277> I'm currently running opensuse, but I'm burning ubuntu to a cd. What do I do after it has been burned?
[11:19] <uBUXUBu> hi ikonia
[11:20] <ikonia> I suggest you leave please.
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> MathGirl277  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade;sudo apt-get autoremove
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> hyde: you can change the layout using the settings
[11:20] <iszak> ActionParsnip, thanks it seems to be called oif-team/rename now
[11:20] <randomDude> the oracle website is very unhelpful at the moment
[11:21] <hyde> ActionParsnip, xubuntu settings have currently "use system default"... and I want to change the default, not the xubuntu setting
[11:21] <MathGirl277> MonkeyDust, I should have mentioned. I lost my su password, so I'm wiping the os and starting fresh with ubuntu
[11:21] <uBUXUBu> im having trouble getting 2nd life game to run in ubuntu
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> hyde: or edit /etc/default/keyboard  to the language you want
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: did you install it from the playdeb repo?
[11:22] <hyde> ActionParsnip: /etc/default/keyboard, thanks, that sounds just the file I'm trying to find
[11:22] <hyde> looking at it
[11:22] <pkkm> MathGirl277: why not boot from a LiveCD, mount the partition with the system on which you lost the su password, open etc/shadow, and change the password?
[11:22] <pangur> As I could not manage to get Eclipse and Perl to play as I wanted, I began uninstalling Perl, then realised that this was taking away much of my system. I halted the process and have got most of it back, as far as I can tell.  However, I have landed up with compiz rather than Unity.  How do I get back to Unity please?
[11:22] <uBUXUBu> no i dowloaded it using what they call the linux dowload
[11:22] <pkkm> MathGirl277: easier than reinstalling Ubuntu
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: I'd use the PPA, far easier
[11:23] <uBUXUBu> ok where is that located
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=playdeb   too hard?
[11:23] <MathGirl277> ... Thank you pkkm.  Ctrl + Alt + T
[11:24] <freesky77>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[11:25] <vladimir> ActionParsnip, yes, unfortunatelly, the same view ... if you zoom, everything is fine (visible), but withouth zooming the lines are discontiinuous
[11:25] <pangur> How can I switch back to Unity desktop from Compiz, please?
[11:25] <uBUXUBu> no playdeb in ubuntu software center
[11:26] <hyde> ActionParsnip: actually found in Debian wiki, the right solution is running dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: use the link I gave you, its not in software centre
[11:26] <lucignolo> ciao
[11:26] <uBUXUBu> ahh ok ty
[11:26] <freesky77> "/home/freesky77/.xchat2/buduscript/budus.so"
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> hyde: same effect is achieved
[11:26] <k1l_> pangur: what do you mean?
[11:26] <lucignolo> :!list
[11:26] <uBUXUBu> thought the link was for math ty
[11:26] <hyde> ActionParsnip: well, yeah "right", of course config file edit is the same
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> vladimir: sounds like a bug then
[11:26] <lucignolo> !list
[11:27] <lucignolo> !list
[11:27] <pkkm> MathGirl277: there is an even easier way than editing etc/shadow, see http://unixlab.blogspot.com/2009/08/reset-root-password-with-live-cd.html
[11:27] <vladimir> ActionParsnip, seems to be probably ... i will ask eog guys
[11:27] <pangur> I have a fancy panel of icons running across the bottom of my screen.    I thought I would never ask for that :)
[11:27] <hyde> ActionParsnip: I just found that dpkg command before I found a way to list different layouts, without which it's kinda hard to edit the file :)
[11:27] <vladimir> ActionParsnip, thank you anyway
[11:28] <JonathanD> Was wind broken?
[11:28] <MathGirl277> pkkm, I have no idea how to thank you. :D
[11:29] <uBUXUBu> im atplaydeb so far i dont see it
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: I'll give a command for you
[11:30] <uBUXUBu> i like the playdeb idea if i see it there
[11:30] <pangur> k1l_: I want to be able to change from having a super-eye-candy menu thing to having just the default Unity, which I can no longer access.
[11:30] <hyde> ...ah, finally a good keyboard layout compromise, US layout for programming, with altgr access to äöÄÖ and €
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: cd $HOME; wget http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo dpkg -i ./playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb; rm ./playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install snowstorm
[11:30] <k1l_> pangur: i think you dont know what unity and compiz is.
[11:31] <k1l_> pangur: do you want the old desktop look back?
[11:31] <pangur> Quite probably, k1l_ :)
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: its a PPA you add, once you add the deb, you can even use the playdeb site to install stuff
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: the deb is from this page: http://www.playdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/11.10#how_to_install
[11:31] <pangur> Yes, what you have said would be a good summary of what I want, k1l_ :)
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: which you could have found using the link I gave you
[11:31] <uBUXUBu> ok i saved the playdeb file
[11:32] <uBUXUBu> ty ill open it and im sure it will unfold the answer
[11:32] <k1l_> !notunity | pangur
[11:33] <skipper> hi all, how can i add a language indicator in ubuntu 12.04?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: you don't need to save anything
[11:33] <lucignolo> ciao
[11:33] <pangur> Thanks, k1l_ !
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: I GAVE you the entire command to run in terminal
[11:33] <lucignolo> !list
[11:33] <lucignolo> list
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: so why are you saving anything
[11:33] <freesky77> list
[11:33] <uBUXUBu> isit ok if i install the playdeb
[11:33] <freesky77> ciao
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: run the command I gave you
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: thats all you have to do
[11:34] <uBUXUBu> ok
[11:34] <uBUXUBu> ty
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: try reading and then thinking, instead of wildly clicking URLs as you see them
[11:35] <cebor> is there a shortcut for maximise a window 12.04 ??
[11:35] <uBUXUBu> im trying to keep up
[11:35] <bobweaver> !warez > lucignolo
[11:35] <Parabox> I'm on GNOME Fallback, and I wish to have the close/maximize/minimize be placed and ordered Windows style, and to not have the annoying clickdrag scrollbar pop up everytime something's scrollable.
[11:35] <TJ-> cebor: Press and hold down the Super/Windows key, and look at the list bottom-right
[11:35] <uBUXUBu> but playdeb did get installed so do i still need the command
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: you can now run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install snowstorm
[11:36] <uBUXUBu> ok ty
[11:36] <uBUXUBu> ill do that now
[11:37] <cebor> TJ-: thx,   nice function :)  helps me very much
[11:37] <uBUXUBu> its seems to be starting in terminal
[11:38] <uBUXUBu> bummer says i have broken pkgs
[11:38] <uBUXUBu> i never have luck in terminal
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: can you pastebin the text you see please
[11:39] <uBUXUBu> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:39] <uBUXUBu>  snowstorm:i386 : Depends: snowstorm-data:i386 (= <IP_ADDRESS>5141-1~getdeb1) but it is not installable
[11:39] <uBUXUBu> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[11:39] <Kingsy> guys, I updated my kernel to the latest version, however the package manager this morning is trying to install an older version of the kernel on an update.. why? and how do you stop it? I certainly don't want to downgrade
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: I said to use a pastebin....but nevermind. Please use one in future
[11:40] <ikonia> Kingsy: where did you get the "newer" kernel from
[11:40] <uBUXUBu> ok
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[11:40] <uBUXUBu> ok
[11:40] <Kingsy> ikonia: a deb umm
[11:40] <ikonia> Kingsy: from where
[11:40] <Kingsy> ikonia: yeah 1 sec
[11:40] <uBUXUBu> i did it
[11:41] <Kingsy> ikonia: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.5.4-quantal/
[11:41] <lucignolo> ciao
[11:41] <ikonia> so you've put that kernel on a 12.04 box ?
[11:41] <Kingsy> yeah
[11:41] <ikonia> Kingsy: so you've put that kernel on a 12.04 box ?
[11:41] <lucignolo> !list
[11:41] <Kingsy> works nice
[11:41] <ikonia> Kingsy: why ?
[11:41] <ikonia> Kingsy: why have you done that ?
[11:41] <Kingsy> ikonia: because its newer.. why not?
[11:41] <uBUXUBu> i have 15 updates ro do now
[11:42] <ikonia> Kingsy: then you should know what you're doing if you're taking that approach
[11:42] <Kingsy> ikonia: really? its not hard to just install the .deb, it just worked.. if not I would have rolled back using grub and removed it
[11:42] <ikonia> Kingsy: honestly, why change a working kernel thats fully supported, meets dependencies and is part of your branch to an unreleased unpatched kernel for no reason
[11:42] <Kingsy> I don't see the issue
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: ok let that roll
[11:42] <ikonia> Kingsy: then get on with fixing your problem
[11:42] <BluesKaj> uBUXUBu, packagemanagement on ubuntu all use the dpkg system whether it's the terminal or software center, so the broken package/dependencies can't be blamed on the terminal use
[11:42] <Kingsy> ikonia: ok thanks
[11:42] <uBUXUBu> maybe those were the fixes for broken pkgs
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: likely
[11:43] <uBUXUBu> tbh evertime i ever did terminal it says stuff like that thus i avoid it like the plague
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: software centre is just a GUI for those type of commands
[11:44] <uBUXUBu> i know but it alwaysworked for me
[11:45] <uBUXUBu> must of been luck
[11:45] <pangur> k1l_: gnome-tweak-tool tells me that I have no Shell theme. What are the implications of that?  Do I need to be bothered about it?
[11:47] <BluesKaj> uBUXUBu, luck has nothing to do with it ..coincidence maybe
[11:48] <uBUXUBu> yeah maybe
[11:48] <iceroot> is there something on ubuntu which can sync mails from exchange 2010 using active sync? as it seems kmail, thunderbird and evolution are not able to sync mails with activesync
[11:49] <uBUXUBu> one time someone told me to update buntu in terminal soi did it and it ran all nite and all day never ended tll i had to crash it and reinstall
[11:50] <hyde> iceroot: googling "linux activesync" seems to indicate that "yes, there is something"
[11:51] <uBUXUBu> ok action i have to reboot now brb
[11:54] <uBUXUBu> ok updated now what
[11:55] <SrijanM> hi, i use ubuntu 12.04 and trying to make empathy work behind proxy. The articles over net say that its should work properly if i fix network proxy settings in preferences but its not working
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: do you see snowglobe?
[11:55] <uBUXUBu> no not in software center
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: if you have rebooted, try the playdeb website
[11:57] <uBUXUBu> ok
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: the links in the site will now work for you :)
[11:59] <uBUXUBu> says 4 i86 only
[11:59] <uBUXUBu> im on an intel i7
[11:59] <uBUXUBu> 64 bit
[11:59] <uBUXUBu> is that ok
[12:00] <uBUXUBu> who cares ill try it anyway
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: what is the output of:  lsb_release -s
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc    sorry
[12:00] <uBUXUBu> its a amd ati 5870
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: thats not the output of the command I gave
[12:00] <uBUXUBu> ok one sec
[12:01] <uBUXUBu> precise
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: then its multiarch, so should install
[12:02] <uBUXUBu> ok ty
[12:02] <pauser> hello, im having a unusual problem with my ubuntu. the cursor pointer slows down when i move it, its looks same like the computer is very slow, but when i check in "htop" the computer is working very well. what might be the problem ?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> pauser: have you tried Unity2D session?
[12:04] <uBUXUBu> says its not in my computer so i guess i have to make that command work 1st
[12:04] <pauser> ActionParsnip: yes, its the same problem since the last update yesterday night .
[12:05] <pauser> ActionParsnip: Unity2D, Gnome-shell . every where the same !
[12:05] <delinquentme> so if i've got symlinked files on a remote machine and I want to copy those symlinks ... can I do that?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> uBUXUBu: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Second-Life-Viewer/Getting-Secondlife-to-run-on-Ubuntu-12-04-lts-64-bit/td-p/1513169/page/2   may help
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> pauser: what video chip do you use?
[12:06] <pauser> ActionParsnip: nvidia geforce 9300M GS
[12:06] <padmick> hi does anyone here use Bastille Linux?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> pauser: did you install the proprietary video driver?
[12:07] <pauser> nope
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> padmick: its not Ubuntu, so is offtopic here
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> pauser: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[12:07] <padmick> where would i have to go to get advice on it?
[12:08] <pauser> ActionParsnip: nvidia-current is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, ....
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> padmick: seems to be ok: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BastilleLinux
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> padmick: my mistake, sorry
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> padmick: that link looks pretty extensive
[12:09] <padmick> its not compatible with the lastest version of ubuntu
[12:09] <padmick> well som of it
[12:09] <padmick> some sorry
[12:09] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, pauser that particular gpu seems ti have problems with nviida-current driver, this isn't first instance I've seen
[12:10] <pauser> BluesKaj: so, should i remove it ?
[12:12] <pauser> ActionParsnip: BluesKaj : Problem solved !
[12:12] <BluesKaj> pauser , you can try the nouveau driver  , altho there may be an update for the driver in the repos if you haveny updated/upgraded lately
[12:13] <pauser> its wireless cards fold
[12:13] <uBUXUBu> i see all the instruction and did them all
[12:13] <uBUXUBu> but no matter what it just says cant be found
[12:15] <pauser> actually i have not solved the problem , i just found it xD
[12:16] <pauser> how is it possible that the wireless card causes such a problem with the cursor .
[12:19] <pangur> Can anyone tell me if the packages listed at http://fpaste.org/B5dy/ are ones that are integral to my system and that I will need or can I safely autoremove them, please?
[12:20] <pangur> They were listed as surplus to requirement when I did a partial delete of Perl.
[12:21] <pangur> Obviously, if they are needed by Ubuntu, I should not remove them but restore them.
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[12:22] <DJones> rolling2k: No spam in the channel thank you
[12:22] <rolling2k> lol
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[12:23] <ippo_> hello, I'm having a little bit of a situation here
[12:23] <ippo_> gnome shell crashed
[12:23] <ippo_> and I cannot open a terminal to restart it
[12:23] <ippo_> but I also don't want to reboot
[12:23] <pangur> When the Ubuntu terminal says "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required", does that mean by the system or by other programmes that depend on the system?
[12:23] <ippo_> (important program running)
[12:23] <ippo_> what can I do?
[12:23] <gordonjcp> pangur: by anything
[12:24] <ippo_> pangur: anything, you can remove them
[12:24] <rolling2k><PHONE_NUMBER>070328 1214 231 APPROVED! BANK: | MASTERCARD | HARRIS NATIONAL ASSOCIATION | | STANDARD | UNITED STATES | USA | 840 | | | | |
[12:24] <rolling2k> lol
[12:24] <pangur> Thanks ippo.
[12:24] <gordonjcp> ippo_: hm, interesting problem
[12:24] <pangur> Thanks gordonjcp
[12:24] <ippo_> gordon: if absolutely necessary, I can reboot, but would gladly avoit it
[12:24] <chicognu> ippo_, control alt f2 login and kill the terminal emulator with killall
[12:25] <pangur> What made your Ubuntu crash, ippo_ ?
[12:25] <ippo_> pangur... don't ask. embarassing
[12:25] <chicognu> ippo_, wich terminal emulator do you use ?
[12:25] <chicognu> lol
[12:25] <ippo_> chicognu: I bet it's bash
[12:25] <ippo_> maybe
[12:25] <ippo_> idk, i'm a total noob
[12:25] <chicognu> no bash is only the comand interpreter
[12:25] <gordonjcp> ippo_: flip to a console window with ctrl-alt-f1, log in, and say something like "DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal"
[12:26] <ippo_> brb trying
[12:26] <ippo_> oh snap
[12:26] <ippo_> now it's not working
[12:26] <chicognu> ippo_, and to get back control alt f7
[12:26] <ippo_> I mean, ctrl alt + f1 doesn't bring me to the terminal
[12:27] <ippo_> i guess this means hard reboot
[12:27] <chicognu> not really, there is a keyboard shortcut
[12:27] <chicognu> to kill a crashed app
[12:28] <chicognu> i don't remember what is
[12:28] <ippo_> the problem is that now I don't have access to any terminal
[12:28] <chicognu> ippo_, you system is not really crashed at all, only one app cause a trouble to you x server and crash some part of it
[12:28] <ippo_> ok
[12:28] <chicognu> ippo_, wait just a secound
[12:29] <ippo_> sure thing
[12:29] <chicognu> ippo_, try that
[12:30] <ippo_> with "that" you mean "ctrl+alt+f1" and setting the display?
[12:30] <Guest45755> hello?
[12:30] <Mechdave> ippo_, ctrl + alt + F1 will drop you to a console where you can restart X
[12:31] <ippo_> because I don't get to the console if I press ctrl + alt + f1
[12:31] <ippo_> yeah, but it doesn't
[12:31] <ippo_> nothing happens
[12:31] <Mechdave> ippo_, do you have a usb keyboard?
[12:31] <chicognu> ippo_, control-alt-f2 it it open, run gnome-control-center  and go to keyboard options something like layout configuration  and options enable the option to kill the x server and then click control alt backspace
[12:31] <ippo_> yes
[12:31] <chicognu> errr
[12:31] <chicognu> my mistake
[12:32] <Mechdave> ippo_, may not work but replug your keyboard
[12:32] <chicognu> ippo_, alt+f2
[12:32] <chicognu> not control-alt-f2
[12:32] <ippo_> chicognu: alt+f2 is not working (it's a gnome-shell shortcut, and gnome shell is offline
[12:32] <ippo_> mechdave: replugged, still no luck
[12:32] <chicognu> ippo_, no more ideias :(
[12:33] <ippo_> thank you anyway :)
[12:33] <pangur> ippo, write down how to get back from console before you disappear.
[12:33] <chicognu> :)
[12:33] <ippo_> this will serve me as a lesson
[12:33] <ippo_> eheh pangur I know
[12:33] <ippo_> ctrl alt f7
[12:33] <pangur> Good :)
[12:33] <ippo_> but i'm not even going to the console
[12:33] <ippo_> so no need
[12:34] <Myrtti> ippo_: can you please hit the enter key a bit less often
[12:34] <chicognu> ippo_, enable the short cut  to kill x serve on the next reboot
[12:34] <ippo_> btw, if you ever wonder what the 1000th fibonacci number is, look it up
[12:34] <pangur> Ctrl+Alt+F1 to F6 shoudl provide consoles.
[12:34] <ippo_> don't try to compute it
[12:34] <ippo_> not recursively at least
[12:34] <ippo_> sorry, myrtti, can do. I'm restarting now anyway, sorry for the annoyance
[12:34] <Mechdave> What has happened is ippo's X session has died and he has lost keyboard
[12:35] <Mechdave> ippo_, no mouse either?
[12:35] <chicognu> but how is him in the irc ? from other machine ?
[12:35] <pangur> How can he type if he has no keyboard?
[12:35] <ippo_> mechdave: I have not lost the keyboard, I'm using it to write right now. And mouse working too. I'm on the very computer I'm trying to fix
[12:35] <Mechdave> that's what I am guessing
[12:35] <amos> heloo Guyz av been tryng to connect two computers over lan cable  but aint working can someone please help me??
[12:36] <Mechdave> ippo_, so what is the problem you are experiencing?
[12:36] <ippo_> for some reason that I don't understand, chrome is working, just without gnome-shell underneath. no decorations and anything, only the browser window
[12:36] <Mechdave> ippo_, Aha, I see
[12:37] <ippo_> well, I'll just use a hard reboot
[12:37] <Mechdave> ippo_, may be the only way I'm afraid :(
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> amos: is there a router between?
[12:37] <ippo_> I was just curious to see if I could restart it without killing everything. thank you all for the help
[12:38] <chicognu> ippo_,
[12:38] <amos> Aha ActionParsnip how are you? BTW am using crossover
[12:39] <chicognu> don't forget to enable the option to kill x server ok ? it is a very hand full, but the by default it is disabled
[12:39] <ippo_> chicognu: will do as soon as I log back in :)
[12:39] <chicognu> :)
[12:39] <chicognu> see u in some minutes, or seconds if it is a ssd driver
[12:39] <chicognu> :D
[12:40] <ippo_> oh, and just as a final joke, apparently the system can sense when I press the shutdown button and opens the dialog to let me choose what to do
[12:40] <ippo_> of course, without the window decoration or anything else -.-
[12:40] <chicognu> lol
[12:40] <ippo_> good bye
[12:40] <chicognu> :)
[12:40] <Mechdave> ippo_, lol, just choose logout if it is there
[12:40] <tomaz1> hi
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> amos: if you are using a crossover cable then you will need to set IP addresses on the interfaces as there is no DHCP server
[12:42] <sandGorgon> its taking me HOURS to copy 1.8 GB of data from a memory stick to my phone (mounted over MTP). Anybody has experience using MTP storage and why is it so slow ?
[12:43] <hero> hi
[12:44] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[12:44] <ShapeShifter499> so is there anything better than wine?    I love ubuntu but I need to run various software that is windows only
[12:46] <uBUXUBu> it cause i 64 bit ActionParsnip ...just will not work
[12:46] <chicognu> ShapeShifter499, do you consider to use a virtual machine ?
[12:46] <amos> ActionParsnip  how do i go about with the DNS servers and domains?
[12:47] <ShapeShifter499> chicognu: yes and that would be a no, doesn't work for my iphone (when I need to upgrade, jailbreak, etc) and doesn't work with Dragon Naturally Speaking (voice dictation software)
[12:48] <ShapeShifter499> chicognu: also various games do not run as well as they would if they were native
[12:48] <ShapeShifter499> *on a native machine
[12:48] <iceroot> ShapeShifter499: playonlinux which is a great wine-wrapper
[12:48] <Tinybird> ShapeShifter499, cannot agree more. my experience on wine is too tough.
[12:49] <chicognu> ShapeShifter499, http://www.codeweavers.com/products/  http://gametreelinux.com/
[12:49] <chicognu> i never get able to run internet explorer in wine with a nice gui
[12:50] <uBUXUBu> can i dual boot 32 bit buntu and 64?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> amos: you don't need it, you will be contactting the other system via IP
[12:50] <iceroot> uBUXUBu: sure
[12:50] <uBUXUBu> then it might work
[12:52] <ShapeShifter499> chicognu:  do they support usb devices like my seemingly windows only scanner and iphone?
[12:53] <ShapeShifter499> chicognu: from what I'm reading it appears crossover has USB support for some devices
[12:55] <ShapeShifter499> chicognu: oh wait I think I'm reading its mac os x only usb support
[12:55] <nicola__> ciao
[12:56] <Re-L> hi
[12:56] <chicognu> ShapeShifter499, not sure, but if you need usb support virtual box provides a great usb suport
[12:58] <chicognu> ShapeShifter499, here i have a different approach , i run windows as a host os, but everything i do inside a ubuntu virtual box, except gaming :)
[12:59] <chicognu> ShapeShifter499, i only don't use a linux as guest os because true crypt don't encrypt the hole drive in linux
[12:59] <ShapeShifter499> chicognu: I did that before and I might go back to that solution again
[13:01] <ShapeShifter499> chicognu: it just bothers me that its so hack prone, windows, even after installing every virus/firewall/anti-root kit known to man there are still ways for things to get through
[13:01] <ShapeShifter499> its why I tried ubuntu in the first place as my main os
[13:01] <ShapeShifter499> also its cool to be running a more "geeker" os
[13:01] <ShapeShifter499> lol
[13:02] <chicognu> lol
[13:02] <Toph2> shado you run Unity?
[13:02] <Toph2> ShapeShifter499,,,
[13:02] <ShapeShifter499> Toph2: yea, I love it
[13:02] <Toph2> ok, nice
[13:04] <chicognu> ShapeShifter499, people will burn me to said that, but a windows with all updates is security as any linux... the diferent will be in the quantity of virus for windows compared to the quantity of virus for linux ... but not the power of infect a the computer
[13:04] <chicognu> Oday exploit will always exist to linux, windows or other OS
[13:05] <ShapeShifter499> chicognu: not to sure about that, I had a virus that killed my system from even booting up
[13:05] <gordonjcp> chicognu: exploits != viruses
[13:06] <gordonjcp> chicognu: and since there are about as many Windows systems out there as Linux systems, it can't just be down to "Windows is more popular"
[13:06] <BluesKaj> i chatted with a russian guy on a game site who claimed he wrote viruses for linux testing :)
[13:06] <chicognu> gordonjcp, i know that ...I just make it clear that the really dangers thing will be unfixed vulnerabilities ...
[13:06] <iceroot> chicognu: windows is not secure like a GNU/Linux because windows is providing patches once a month, GNU/Linux when they are available
[13:07] <gordonjcp> chicognu: well there are millions of Linux machines out there with potentially unpatched vulnerabilities
[13:07] <ShapeShifter499> someone needs to merge a fork of reactos with a fork of linux (maybe ubuntu) to create the ultimate linux os that runs windows stuff on the side.... like wine but much more support like usb
[13:07] <iceroot> ShapeShifter499: reactOS
[13:07] <gordonjcp> chicognu: every single ADSL router
[13:07] <ShapeShifter499> iceroot: close enough :p
[13:08] <iceroot> ShapeShifter499: but we dont want windows stuff
[13:08] <iceroot> ShapeShifter499: it would be much better to have a os which does not need any non-free software
[13:09] <ShapeShifter499> iceroot: true true but that doesn't seem to be happening anytime soon, with all these games and mobile devices that needs windows (or even mac os x)
[13:10] <ShapeShifter499> android would be an exception :p
[13:11] <chicognu> iceroot, i really don't knew that ... from microsoft: A: Security-related updates are released once a month. However, if a security threat occurs, such as a widespread virus or worm that affects Windows-based computers, Microsoft will release a corresponding update as soon as possible. Other types of updates can be released whenever they are ready. It’s a good idea to turn on Automatic Updates so that your computer can receive high-priority upda
[13:11] <chicognu> tes as they become available.
[13:11] <iceroot> ShapeShifter499: there is one mobile device which needs win/osx and we dont care about people which buy a jail
[13:11] <works> please help. Asus laptop with boot problems: error in dmesg shows -- mmio address 0xbafe00 already in use
[13:11] <iceroot> ShapeShifter499: there problem, not our problem
[13:12] <iceroot> ShapeShifter499: ah sorry, there are two plattforms which needs windows (win phone and iphone)
[13:12] <chicognu> iceroot, you may be right ... i try to find paper showing how fast vulnerabilities are patched by the vendors, but i don't fond nothing ...
[13:14] <iceroot> chicognu: and on GNU/Linux you can patch it by yourself or let other people patch it instead of the real vendor
[13:14] <iceroot> chicognu: e.g. firefox. debian is not waiting until mozilla releases a fix, debian is patching it directly (not always)
[13:16] <share> !gaming
[13:17] <devjustforfun> if i forget about sud command. what's command i should use for run privies one with sudo
[13:17] <gordonjcp> devjustforfun: what?
[13:18] <devjustforfun> if i forget about sudo command. and aftrer that i need run that command with sudo without retyping
[13:18] <devjustforfun> what's command i should use in that case
[13:18] <iceroot> devjustforfun: we still dont get what you want
[13:19] <iceroot> devjustforfun: you mean you typed "fdisk -l ENTER" and you want to put sudo at the start after hitting the up arrow key?
[13:19] <gordonjcp> oh
[13:19] <gordonjcp> yeah there *is* a way to do that
[13:19] <Mechdave> devjustforfun, use the home key
[13:19] <devjustforfun> ))
[13:20] <gordonjcp> devjustforfun: sudo !!
[13:20] <devjustforfun> yes
 thank
[13:20] <gordonjcp> be very careful with that
[13:20] <Desproges> Hi, I hope someone can help me here : I want to customize my $PS1 but I have a problem when I write a long line: the "newline" is missing, only the CR, so the beginning of the line is replaced by the last typed chars
[13:20] <Desproges> Here is my test script : https://gist.github.com/3884602
[13:21] <devjustforfun> who have a $PS1 with GIT integration ?
[13:21] <Desproges> that exactly what I want to do : git integration !
[13:22] <Desproges> devjustforfun: PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w $(__git_ps1 " (%s)" \$'
[13:22] <Desproges> see /etc/bash_completion.d/git for some options
[13:26] <ManchesterUK> Hi All
[13:26] <ManchesterUK> New Ubuntu user here having moved from Windows
[13:27] <ManchesterUK> Wondered if someone could help?
[13:27] <compdoc> depends
[13:27] <DJones> ManchesterUK: Ask away, if anybody can help, I'm sure they'll jump in
[13:28] <ShapeShifter499> iceroot: chicognu just thought of it, install a unity clone/theme on my windows 7 and use vmware's unity mode to place all the ubuntu stuff in the windows unity bar/dash lol
[13:28] <ManchesterUK> I used to use MYSQL tools for windows to back up my websites database, is there a similar tool for Ubuntu or a better way I should be doing it please?
[13:28] <ManchesterUK> Ive noticed now im on Ubunutu I can just use connect to server to do an ftp file back up easily :)
[13:29] <Desproges> why not using the terminal for a simple back up ?
[13:29] <Desproges> mysqldump -uUSER -p -hHOST DBNAME > dump.sql
[13:29] <ManchesterUK> Im new to Linux Desproges so never even thought of terminal
[13:30] <ShapeShifter499> iceroot: chicognu like so lol http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2011/05/give-dash-of-unity-to-windows-xp-and.html
[13:30] <ManchesterUK> mysqldump is not installed it says in terminal
[13:32] <Mechdave> ManchesterUK, you need to install mysqldump
[13:33] <ManchesterUK> sorry to be stupid how do I do that :)
[13:35] <Mechdave> ManchesterUK, First of all have a read here --> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/mysqldump.html
[13:35] <ManchesterUK> Thanks
[13:37] <Mechdave> ManchesterUK, mysqldump  is contained in package mysql-client-5.5
[13:38] <ManchesterUK> Thanks, i was hoping for a nice GUI really
[13:38] <Desproges> devjustforfun: does my answer ok for you ?
[13:38] <blackshirt> really not needed for server
[13:38] <Mechdave> ManchesterUK,  you can install it from the software centre
[13:38] <Desproges> ManchesterUK: you can try mysqlworkbench
[13:41] <cristian_c> Hi
[13:41] <blackshirt> hi cristian_c
[13:41] <cristian_c> I'd like to change the icon to a .sh file
[13:41] <cristian_c> I'm using lubuntu 12.04
[13:42] <cristian_c> I don't know how to use relative paths in launchers
[13:42] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[13:45] <Jayflux> when you do a sym link (ln -s) can you force it to create a directory on the target if one is not made
[13:45] <blackshirt> no
[13:48] <Riberty> anyone know of a good open source pdf viewer that has tabbed windows? beside foxit, since their last update was 2009
[13:48] <seyar> #linux-fr
[13:48] <seyar> #join linux-fr
 this is a best http://www.mendeley.com/
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Riberty: xpdf, evince, mupdf or acroread may do it
[13:54] <Riberty> evince doesnt have the tabbed feature
[13:54] <Mechdave> what's wrong with acroread. That works pretty well under Ubuntu
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> I use mupdf but not sure itf it has tabs
[13:55] <anti> 汉字
[13:57] <raven> is there any way to enlarge swap partiion of a running system?
[13:59] <devjustforfun> Riberty http://www.mendeley.com/ have tab feature and another cool options
[14:00] <devjustforfun> and may another cool options
[14:00] <Riberty> it looks very good since im actuall a chemist
[14:01] <devjustforfun> enjoy
[14:01] <delinquentme> how the heck to I quit out of $ man ln
[14:01] <delinquentme> esc isnt working
[14:01] <k1l_> raven: why not. unmount the the swap with swapoff and the resize it? but keep in mind that you dont resize other partitions that are mounted and have backups done before
[14:01] <delinquentme> ctrl + q isnt working
[14:01] <k1l_> delinquentme: q
[14:02] <Mechdave> delinquentme, esc
[14:02] <raven> k1l_ thats the problem i would have to make the root partition smaller
[14:02] <Riberty>  acroread seems to have security holes
[14:02] <Mechdave> delinquentme, rather q
[14:02] <k1l_> raven: than i would recommend a  live system for that
[14:03] <ryan_moore> anyone free to help me set up my nvidia Ti4200 card on my dell d800?
[14:03] <Riberty> ctrl + l    it clears cml
[14:03] <ryan_moore> I  just installed Lubuntu 12.04 and it's being finicky
[14:03] <raven> k1l_ yes but not possible at the moment because of remote access
[14:04] <compdoc> ryan_moore, yeah, I tried it recently and decided not to use it. doesnt seem complete
[14:04] <ryan_moore> so you downgraded to a previous version?
[14:05] <Riberty> wait is mendeley a cloud system?
[14:06] <devjustforfun> i'm starting use mouse it's very very not comfortable))
[14:07] <devjustforfun> Riberty yes but you might store your files locally
[14:07] <Riberty> ah ok
[14:07] <Riberty> yeah i hate cloud.. too much time uploading. thanks for the recommendation
[14:07] <Mechdave> I personally don't trust the cloud
[14:08] <devjustforfun> i dont use cloud in mendeley too
[14:09] <Riberty> that too
[14:09] <Riberty> they have access to my files
[14:10] <ingpiolo> !list
[14:11] <Riberty> devjustforfun how would i prevent this program from uploading my file when i add a new document?
[14:16] <delinquentme> when piping data from find ... is there a system var I can use to specify the name or ITEM which I'm wanting to operate on?
[14:16] <delinquentme> kind of like some_array.each{ |x|  puts x  }
[14:16] <delinquentme> in ruby
[14:17] <delinquentme> find ./ -type l | ln TARGET LINK_NAME    ... so find here returns a bunch of items ... and I'd like to redo these symlinks .. and I need the stuff thats returned by find ... to be placed in the TARGET_LINK
[14:17] <devjustforfun> why i need use setfacl
[14:18] <devjustforfun> utility
[14:18] <devjustforfun> why just a create group and set for group permistions and add user to group which i need
[14:21] <Corelmen> hello
[14:21] <devjustforfun> why i need acl. i think i need acl if i need more than 2 groups for files which have a different permissions
[14:21] <Corelmen> is i possible to put te unity launcher on ubuntu 12.10 to the bottum of the screen
[14:22] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|Corelmen:
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Corelmen: there is a PPA, it's known to cause issues though
[14:22] <Guest24303> how do you update the boot list/menu?
[14:23] <k1l_> Guest24303: "sudo update-grub"
[14:23] <Guest24303> ty ty
[14:26] <n1> is it posssible to open install a package not via terminal but vai softwar centre?
[14:26] <k1l_> n1: of course
[14:26] <cfhowlett> n1: of course.
[14:26] <nongamorc> double-click
[14:26] <n1> I mean if the package is in some folder
[14:27] <n1> ...s I am still unable to connect via dongle on ubuntu
[14:27] <n1> whati if it is a shell script=?
[14:27] <nongamorc> then it's not a package
[14:27] <nongamorc> make it executable, and runit by double-clicking
[14:28] <seduce1> hello, I installed h.c.c.bot but I don't know how to start it
[14:28] <seduce1> any help
[14:28] <seduce1> it was new package under software center
[14:28] <nongamorc> if you go to the dash, and enter bot, does it show up?
[14:28] <seduce1> solved
[14:29] <m000gle> In Network Connections, is there any to manually select the order VPN's appear in the list and network indicator applet? ... It seems to change, dynamically, based on the most recently used VPN.  However, setting the order either manually or in alphabetical order would be preferable, for me.
[14:29] <seduce1> nvm
[14:30] <nongamorc> hm… 30 minutes to go at work
[14:32] <quidnunc> Can anyone tell me how to gpg verify a non-detached signature?
[14:33] <bene> Hey, how can I activate Fn-shortcuts on my Laptop?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut
[14:33] <bene> thank you
[14:35] <rexwin_> command to check whether apache/mysql installed
[14:36] <rexwin_> can somebody help me out?
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> rexwin_: dpkg -l | egrep 'apach|mysql'
[14:38] <rexwin_> got it, nm
[14:38] <devjustforfun> what's a best tutorial about networking staff in term of linux. for starting people.
[14:38] <nongamorc> staff or stuff?
[14:38] <Jayflux> sym links don't stay there after reboot. Is that normal?
[14:39] <TJ-> rexwin_: "apt-cache policy apache2 mysql-server"
[14:39] <devjustforfun> stuff *
[14:39] <devjustforfun> sorry
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> devjustforfun: there is no best tutorial, for anything
[14:39] <bazhang> devjustforfun, try in ##networking , thats not an ubuntu support question
[14:40] <devjustforfun> ok
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> devjustforfun: you can setup IPs and stuff using network manager
[14:40] <devjustforfun> i dont want setup Ips
[14:41] <devjustforfun> i need to setup firewall and apache
[14:41] <rexwin_> thanks guys
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> devjustforfun: I suggest you look into iptables or ufw (or gufw if you have a desktop UI)
[14:41] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo devjustforfun
[14:42] <devjustforfun> thanks
[14:42] <bazhang> !lamp | devjustforfun
 thanks
[14:48] <sk1special> mmk.  does anyone know the command to update the boot menu
[14:48] <devjustforfun> how to see which groups have a user. and what's folders and files have that groups
[14:49] <bazhang> sk1special, sudo update-grub
[14:49] <cfhowlett> sk1special: sudo update-grub
[14:49] <sk1special> mmk ty. that should let it see my bootable usb now correct?
[14:50] <llutz> devjustforfun: "getent group"   "find / -gid <gid>"
[14:51] <devjustforfun> thanks
[14:53] <devjustforfun> devjustforfun:x:1000: - 1000 that is a group id?
[14:53] <llutz> devjustforfun: yes
[14:54] <devjustforfun> ok thanks
[14:55] <llutz> devjustforfun: info on the content "man group"
[14:57] <devjustforfun> how to group result by folders
[14:58] <devjustforfun> how to group result by directories which have level 3 starting for /
[15:02] <borax12> well does ubuntu have something simillar to mkinitcpio.conf (mkinitcpio is used for creating the initial ramdisk)
[15:03] <TJ-> borax12: "sudo update-initramfs -u -k all" will *update* the initrd for every installed kernel. See "man update-initramfs" for details of the switches and options
[15:04] <borax12> well is there a conf file for some editing fun :)
[15:05] <bene> this is SPARTA!
[15:05] <bazhang> !ot | bene
[15:09] <overclucker> borax12: info update-initramfs.conf
[15:09] <borax12> overclucker, thanks a ton
[15:09] <borax12> :)
[15:12] <internetN00b> !java
[15:16] <sk1special> okay. is there a command i can enter at the grub menu stage to boot directly to my usb?
[15:17] <sk1special> because when i update the list it doesnt show it
[15:17] <sk1special> and i allready have my bios settings to boot to usb devices first and the grub menu shows up instead so
[15:17] <digitalmafia> can anyone tell me any good recovery app for linux.....i want to recover my microsd card
[15:17] <gordonjcp> digitalmafia: testdisk or photorec
[15:18] <gordonjcp> digitalmafia: first things first though; use dd to make a copy of it to a disk image
[15:18] <darkelfjuggalo> I'm trying to make a USB install stick for latest Ubuntu for a 64-bit...every method I've tried, including a the pendrive program available in windows, fail...I know 64-bit is crap for installing Linux, but it's the only laptop available with the specs I needed
[15:18] <digitalmafia> gordonjcp: are they free ??
[15:18] <wilee-nilee> sk1special, There is a out of the bios key press like you would use for the bios for a boot menu, mine is f12
[15:18] <gordonjcp> digitalmafia: yes
[15:18] <gordonjcp> darkelfjuggalo: 64-bit should be fine
[15:18] <blz> Is there a command-line analog to the "sound settings" menu in Unity?
[15:19] <sk1special> wilee-nilee: so i press that while in the grub menu and it will let me boot to usb?
[15:19] <digitalmafia> gordonjcp: does test disc has all types file support ?? and why to make a image with dd....its already corrupted and everything is lost.....
[15:19] <klausl> Hi!
[15:19] <Tdaug> I tried to install Ubuntu WITHIN windows on my Compaq Presario CQ57, and I installed the demo first so I could see how it works, before installing the whole thing.  On the desktop, there's a little icon that says "install Ubuntu".  I click it, go through the steps, and then reboot, like it says, and every time I boot into Ubuntu, it
[15:19] <Tdaug> 's the demo.  everything is default.
[15:19] <blz> I've tried alsamixer, and while my device seems to be listed, I can't manage to play sound out of it.  I've tested it in unity and it works without a hitch
[15:19] <darkelfjuggalo> first few times it said something was missing or corrupt, after the Pendrive programs it starts then fails at various steps including detecting network hardware and softward install
[15:19] <wilee-nilee> sk1special, You would find what the key or keys are, but do this at powering on as if you were going to the bios.
[15:21] <sk1special> ahhh..you mean where it shows for the safe boot mode and that kind of thing. mmk let me try that
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> Tdaug: as in, mount the ISO in Windows (or burn to CD) then install using that? Is that correct?
[15:21] <darkelfjuggalo> unfortunately learning that destroyed my windows OS[which i wanted to get rid of in the first place] now I can't go back and fix whatever was wrong
[15:21] <wilee-nilee> darkelfjuggalo, Have you checked the md5sum of the ISO?
[15:21] <Tdaug> yes.   I burned the .iso to a disk.
[15:21] <sk1special> darkelfjuggalo: make sure youre running the 32 bit vs 64 bit. or whichever is for your system. mine did that when i downloaded the wrong one before. brb
[15:21] <Npc> there is this file i have to wget after every reboot again
[15:21] <gordonjcp> digitalmafia: because if you have a copy of the card, you can try various different things without risking further damage
[15:21] <Npc> why doesn't the file stay?
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Tdaug: then read the CD in Windows and installed that way?
[15:22] <gordonjcp> digitalmafia: imagine you have a card that is electrically failing; you make *one* copy of the card, then makes copies of the copy to fiddle with
[15:22] <bekks> Npc: Which file do you wget to which location?
[15:22] <digitalmafia> gordonjcp: yea ok i understand it...but whats the use when the card is already corrupted ??
[15:22] <gordonjcp> digitalmafia: you might only have one shot at reading the card - or more likely a mechanical drive
[15:22] <gordonjcp> digitalmafia: it keeps the card *exactly* as it is
[15:22] <scratmandoo> greetings all!
[15:22] <darkelfjuggalo> how do I check the md5sum?
[15:22] <gordonjcp> digitalmafia: so if you manage to make things worse, you can always get back to where you started
[15:23] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum > darkelfjuggalo
[15:23] <Npc> it's a java .class file and i wget into a subdir in my homedir
[15:23] <Npc> ~/aicourse/reversi/reversi/
[15:23] <gordonjcp> digitalmafia: what if your card has corrupt data and can be partially read, but in trying to do so you accidentally wipe the whole thing?  Then you're stuffed, there's no getting it back
[15:23] <digitalmafia> gordonjcp: ok what command to use for dd ?? sudo dd if=/dev/sda off=??
[15:23] <Tdaug> ActionParsnip:  Yes.  After burning the CD, I ran it in windows, and installed the ubuntu OS.
[15:23] <bekks> Npc: Do you boot a livecd, or something?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Tdaug: ok, did you get full updates in Ubuntu?
[15:23] <gordonjcp> digitalmafia: yeah something like that, sudo dd if=/dev/sd<whatever> of=mydisk.img
[15:23] <Npc> bekks: no
[15:24] <corentin> hi
[15:24] <bekks> Npc: Which Ubuntu do you use?
[15:24] <scratmandoo> hi correntin
[15:24] <darkelfjuggalo> sk1special, every download automatically goes for 64-bit
[15:24] <Ex0deus> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[15:24] <frwgwr> #Hi all.
[15:24] <gordonjcp> digitalmafia: or better still sudo dd if=/dev/sd<whatever> of=mydisk.img bs=4M
[15:24] <Npc> bekks: 12.04
[15:24] <Tdaug> ActionParsnip:  I made sure it was the latest version before i installed it.
[15:24] <corentin> is it possible to congigure unity in order to change focus according to mouse position, but keeping the window layout as is?
[15:24] <bekks> Npc: Whats the command you use for wget?
[15:24] <Ex0deus> why bs=4mb
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> Tdaug: yes but there are updates for Precise even after a clean install
[15:24] <Ex0deus> thats a big block
[15:24] <Npc> bekks: wget <url>
[15:24] <corentin> like if a window gain focus, i don't want window in front of this one to get in the background
[15:24] <digitalmafia> gordonjcp: ok of=<path>/myimage.img ?? can i use create iso or any other image extension ??
[15:24] <bekks> Ex0deus: Because otherwise dd will take ages.
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Ex0deus: most drives have 4Mb cache now, may as well use it
[15:25] <digitalmafia> gordonjcp: whats bs=4M for ??
[15:25] <frwgwr> I use Ubuntu&WIndows dual boot, I want to allow Ubuntu users to mount one of the windows ntfs partitions (not automount). I suppose I should make udev rules, I would appreciate some input on what to do!
[15:25] <digitalmafia> ohh ok ActionParsnip answered it
[15:25] <bekks> ActionParsnip: Nowadays, most drives have 16M :)
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> bekks: exactly, get it used
[15:25] <Ex0deus> i guess
[15:25] <Tdaug> ActionParsnip:  Would that effect the install?  The demo works fine, but everything returns to defaults after shutdown.
[15:25] <corentin> frwgwr: just add option 'user' in fstab?
[15:26] <bekks> ActionParsnip: ;)
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Tdaug: seems weird, is the NTFS partition healthy?
[15:26] <Ex0deus> and actually i think nearly all drives now have a 16mb cache... and most have a 32 or 64....
[15:26] <Npc> bekks: also, other newly created files stay there but these downloaded .class disappear
[15:26] <Tdaug> ActionParsnip:  How can I check that?  I'm new to switching OSes..
[15:27] <scratmandoo> anybody else used XBMC?
[15:27] <Ex0deus> i don't use dd as much as i should ... usually only to wipe the mbr for a new install
[15:27] <frwgwr> corentin: I had tried that that won't work with the standard ntfs-3d, som issue with permissions&linked libraries
[15:27] <bekks> scratmandoo: I bet someone does.
[15:27] <frwgwr> so I thought udev might just do it
[15:27] <corentin> frwgwr: oh you might need users to have permission on the mount point or something
[15:27] <scratmandoo> lol, bekks, anybody in here used XBMC?
[15:27] <Ex0deus> i think guake is my new favorite terminal :P
[15:27] <corentin> frwgwr: also they need to mount it for their own user with ntfs mount options iirc
[15:27] <bekks> scratmandoo: I bet someone did.
[15:27] <bazhang> scratmandoo, ask the real question
[15:27] <blz> scratmandoo, if you have XBMC questions, there's #xbmc and #xbmc-linux
[15:27] <bekks> scratmandoo: How about just starting to ask a specific question?
[15:28] <T_A_N_K> hello, why does the pulse audio monitor of main audio output not work?
[15:28] <T_A_N_K> i have the output working just fine, but the monitor will not actually record it
[15:28] <scratmandoo> There's no specific question, I have no problem at all, just wondered whether anybody else has any opinions on it?
[15:28] <bekks> scratmandoo: Polls can be taken in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[15:29] <scratmandoo> lol, okaydoke
[15:29] <darkelfjuggalo> I just looked at my thumb drive on my debian, the one that I was using for the install...and it's empty
[15:29] <ylmfos_lms> :)
[15:30] <blz> How can I select my USB speakers as default output through the command line?  Under Unity it's a simple matter of selecting them from a list in the "sound settings" menu, but I don't know how to do this in a non-graphical environment
[15:30] <Ex0deus> darkelfjuggalo: have you tired using unetbootin to make a bootable usb install img?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Tdaug: run:  chkdsk c: /r   then reboot windows
[15:30] <kostkon> blz, man pactl
[15:32] <blz> kostkon, any further hints?  =)  Which options should I be looking at?
[15:32] <kostkon> blz, doc is here http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/CLI
[15:32] <kostkon> blz, you'll figure it out ;)
[15:32] <blz> kostkon, cool thanks!
[15:33] <Tdaug> ActionParsnip:  After rebooting, do I go to windows or ubuntu?
[15:33] <darkelfjuggalo> i could not remember unetbootin, I used some other one that the ubuntu website linked to
[15:33] <blz> kostkon, out of curiosity... I was looking at aslamixer earlier.  What's the difference between pulseaudio and alsa and how can I know which to use in a given situation?
[15:33] <frwgwr> corentin: I believe I had tried that, there was still some issue. I setup ntfs-3g to be set suid then, but still i did not work because it should be statically compiled then (at least if I remember the message correctly)
[15:33] <kostkon> blz, the output devices are called sinks, so you need to set the default sink
[15:33] <blz> kostkon, haha thanks that helps a lot! =)
[15:34] <corentin> frwgwr: mount is already suid root afaik
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> Tdaug: either
[15:34] <corentin> frwgwr: have you tried to set uid,gid,umask ?
[15:34] <kostkon> blz, pulse sits of top of alsa. alsa communicates with the hardware, pulseaudio mostly replaces the default alsa software mixer, dmix, but also with more cool features
[15:35] <kostkon> comes*
[15:35] <Tdaug> ActionParsnip:  And that should allow me to install ubuntu completely?
[15:35] <Ex0deus> anyone happen to know off hand how i can change the root username? or change the UID of root and another use to UID 0?
[15:35] <frwgwr> corentin: yes, ntfs-3g kept mentioning something about security and being compiled dynamically
[15:35] <internetN00b> any one knows of a good alternative to Navicat?
[15:35] <frwgwr> or something like that
[15:36] <Tinybird> Ex0deus: seemingly the name "root" cannot be changed
[15:37] <Ex0deus> i don't believe that
[15:37] <geirha> Ex0deus: It can be changed, but it's pointless to do so
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> and potentially dangerous
[15:38] <digitalmafia> gordonjcp: i did dd but its taking too much time and cursor is blinking is sometimes and sometimes its stuck and also i forgot that bs=4M. the card is of 4GB capacity....how much time it should take ?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Tdaug: it will ensure the NTFS is in order
[15:38] <frwgwr> corentin: had to do with the stuff mentioned on http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-faq/#unprivileged if I remember correctly
[15:38] <Tdaug> OK. I ran chkdsk.  I'll restart now.
[15:38] <Ex0deus> its not pointless... if someone WANTED to hack a box... looking to get root access... then it can't just be assumed that the root user is root
[15:39] <darkelfjuggalo> I did an md5sum check, but i have nothing to compare it to... the version is 12.04.1 the UbuntuHashes page only covers up to 12.04
[15:39] <Ex0deus> granted all that needs happen is to escalate any given user to UID0
[15:39] <Ex0deus> sure you do...
[15:39] <researcher> What command do I type to authorise every user to read/write/execute each file in a directory  owned by root? Please help.
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> internetN00b  there's this .tar file http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Navicat-Download-1510.html
[15:40] <geirha> Ex0deus: security by obscurity. You might slow them down 10 seconds
[15:40] <Ex0deus> at darkelfjuggalo you have the CLI tool compare ... man compare
[15:40] <blz> kostkon, tried `pactl list sinks` and I see my device (it's Sink #1 and it's name is alsa_output.usb-1130_USB_AUDIO-00-AUDIO.analog-stereo.  The state is described as SUSPENDED).  I then tried pactl set-default-sink 1 and also pactl set-default-sink alsa_output.usb-1130_USB_AUDIO-00-AUDIO.analog-stereo
[15:40] <corentin> frwgwr: oh ok then maybe it needs to be suid root, but since it's run by mount which already runs as root i'm wondering if it's really necessary, although it's fairly easy to check this point
[15:40] <Tinybird> researcher: chmod a+x *
[15:40] <darkelfjuggalo> what is CLI?
[15:40] <blz> kostkon, both of those commands gave me "No valid command specified"
[15:40] <Ex0deus> geirha: i agree
[15:40] <blz> kostkon, what am I doing wrong?
[15:40] <Ex0deus> darkelfjuggalo: Command Line Interface
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> command line interface
[15:40] <digitalmafia> gordonjcp: i did dd but its taking too much time and cursor is blinking is sometimes and sometimes its stuck and also i forgot that bs=4M. the card is of 4GB capacity....how much time it should take ? ActionParsnip
[15:40] <researcher> Tinybird: where do I tpe that? In that directory?
[15:40] <geirha> Ex0deus: There may be software that assume uid 0 has username root too, which in turn will break
[15:41] <darkelfjuggalo> thats how I got the md5sum for the iso
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> darkelfjuggalo  cli is command line interface, the terminal
[15:41] <corentin> frwgwr: oh nevermind, it seems mount drop privileges before calling ntfs-3g so you're right
[15:41] <Tinybird> researcher: yes
[15:41] <researcher> Tinybird: ok.Trying
[15:41] <Ex0deus> hmm geirha ... i guess i hadn't thought of that either...
[15:41] <corentin> frwgwr: still need all the mentioned requirement, plus user to mount the device with correction uid, gid, and umask
[15:41] <minatu> hi all
[15:41] <corentin> s/correction/correct/
[15:41] <minatu> hi all
[15:41] <kostkon> blz, hmmm
[15:42] <Ex0deus> geirha: i would guess software would look by uid... but i guess that is taking alot for granted...
[15:42] <ensignavenger> I have eleminated the global menu in 12.04, but I can't get rid of the top toolbar thingy- anyone know how to do that?
[15:42] <frwgwr> corentin: I set ntfs-3g to be suid with dpkg-reconfigure, but it complained about the dynamic FUSE-security issue
[15:42] <minatu> I really want to have a lunar calendar in the existing indicator-date time.
[15:42] <frwgwr> so I believe to do it via fstab I'd need a custom ntfs-3g package
[15:42] <minatu> I got indicator-datetime source from launch pad
[15:43] <corentin> frwgwr: is it compiled with integrated fuse support?
[15:43] <corentin> frwgwr: if not then you'll need to compile it yourself
[15:43] <minatu> But, I dont know how to touch indicator interface
[15:43] <minatu> Which was displayed with a calendar.
[15:44] <minatu> Pls, show me how to modify it.
[15:44] <linuxalex82> hi
[15:44] <darkelfjuggalo> how do I compare in Command Line? I used command line to find the md5sum for the given file
[15:44] <geirha> Ex0deus: Anyway, the procedure mainly involves editing passwd and shadow
[15:45] <impiza> my sound not working
[15:45] <impiza> sh: 1: inxi: not found
[15:45] <frwgwr> corentin: could configuring udev solve this? I prefer not to need cutom compiled stuff in the base system
[15:45] <minatu> darkeljuggalo: you can use diff command
[15:45] <Tinybird> darkelfjuggalo: diff
[15:45] <Stranger^_-> Hi i can some one help us? we need some help to click on this green vote button ("Stem") on this link: http://www.norgesstyggestekjokken.no/bidrag/583 we are trying to win this new kitchen, just take a look and u see we need this kitchen
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> Stranger^_-  wrong channel
[15:46] <corentin> frwgwr: if permission on the device itself is enough to solve your problem yes, otherwise i'm afraid not
[15:46] <researcher> Tinybird: It did not help other user access it
[15:46] <darkelfjuggalo> what, TinyBird?
[15:46] <researcher> Tinybird: No success
[15:46] <minatu> plse help me to modify indicator-datetime
[15:46] <corentin> frwgwr: if you chown your device to group users and then chmod it to 770, are you able to mount it as a normal user in the users group?
[15:46] <kostkon> blz, what happens if you give set-default-sink 0, which i assume is your already default onboard soundcard. does this work?
[15:46] <Tinybird> researcher: chmod o+x *
[15:47] <Stranger^_-> MonkeyDust i know this isent ubuntu relaited, but its alot of peps here, maby this gonna be some more ubuntu related, how to create a script in ubuntu that allows you to click on the vote button and afther the click it changes IP/Proxy from a list?
[15:47] <researcher> Tinybird: trying
[15:47] <frwgwr> corentin: thanks. I'll look into it when I have some more time
[15:47] <frwgwr> Bye all!
[15:47] <blz> kostkon, same thing:  "No valid command specified"
[15:47] <Tinybird> darkelfjuggalo: the command diff will be helpful
[15:47] <impiza> my sound not working
[15:48] <blz> kostkon, and btw, pactl is behaving strangely with list-sinks as well.  In fact, "pactl list-sinks" gives me the "no valid command" error, but "pactl list sinks" works =/
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> Stranger^_-  better ask in a channel that covers the programming code you want to use
[15:48] <minatu> I want to intergate lunar calendar into indicator-datetime? Pls, show me where i shoud start?
[15:48] <bazhang> !audio | impiza
[15:48] <Stranger^_-> MonkeyDust thx
[15:48] <blz> kostkon, which is strange considering that its manpage and the website you sent me list the command as being 'list-sinks'
[15:48] <impiza> !audio
[15:49] <mikubuntu> could someone help me with the commands described here to install this py based teleprompter :: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1140053
[15:49] <kostkon> blz, yes strange. then omit the dash altogether, try giving set default sink :/
[15:49] <kostkon> dashes*
[15:49] <impiza> bazhang,  thanks
[15:49] <impiza> fixed it
[15:49] <blz> kostkon, yeah i tried that and I get the same error
[15:49] <blz> strange, no?
[15:50] <darkelfjuggalo> and the help for that command is confusing the hell out of me
[15:50] <kostkon> blz, are you running ubuntu for example, 12.04, with a GUI?
[15:50] <bazhang> minatu, which lunar calendar? is there a package for that?
[15:50] <researcher> Tinybird: I did this sudo chmod o+x * -R  in that directory
[15:50] <blz> kostkon, I'm running XBMCButnu, latest
[15:50] <researcher> Tinybird: but I still cant access fiels as a certain usr.File executions need root privilege
[15:51] <kostkon> blz, hmmm. try then:  ps -A | grep pulse
[15:51] <overclucker> mikubuntu: what about the commands are you having trouble with?
[15:51] <Tinybird> researcher: that's confusing
[15:52] <blz> kostkon,  1412 ?        00:00:06 pulseaudio
[15:52] <researcher> Tinybird: sudo chmod o+x * -R
[15:52] <Tinybird> researcher: try ls -lah and feed back your result
[15:52] <darkelfjuggalo> ok nvm I found a list of MD5SUMs for 12.04.1 in a different location... what I have matches that list
[15:52] <kostkon> blz, you can install pavucontrol if you want.
[15:52] <mikubuntu> overclucker: first, i don't know how to cd or where to cd to, and i'm unsure the last command if it includes the last line?
[15:53] <kostkon> blz, it wouldn't heart. i assume that xbmcbuntu doesnt come with gnome's sound prefs.
[15:53] <kostkon> hurt*
[15:53] <blz> kostkon, is that a graphical app?
[15:53] <kostkon> yes
[15:53] <blz> kostkon, no, it doesn't.   No desktop environment or WM
[15:53] <kostkon> blz, ok then :/
[15:54] <darkelfjuggalo> How do I write directly to a USB stick in command line?
[15:54] <blz> kostkon, it should basically be treated as a server-install
[15:54] <blz> darkelfjuggalo, dd
[15:54] <mrsun> hmm
[15:54] <blz> darkelfjuggalo, more specifically, 'dd if=/path/to/stream of=/dev/sd*'
[15:55] <blz> darkelfjuggalo, but reading the manpage probably wouldn't hurt when using a low-level command like that.
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> darkelfjuggalo  mount the usb stick and then write to it -- sudo mount /dev/blah some_folder_you_created
[15:55] <mrsun> alright, got ubuntu 12.04 LTS and with latest chromium and flash updates the interface of youtube videos etc has started to freeze up until i move the mouse and is very annoying, anyone know a fix for this? :)
[15:55] <researcher> Tinybird: Please help here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1277145/
[15:55] <mikubuntu> overclucker: i'm just not proficient, and i need an overseer to help me through
[15:55] <kostkon> blz, pactl on my 10.04 actually doesn't offer the set-default-sink set-default-source options
[15:56] <kostkon> blz, what version of ubuntu is xmbcubuntu based on?
[15:56] <blz> 12.04, I believe?
[15:56] <mrsun> the version is realy an older version that ive updated to 12.04
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> darkelfjuggalo  usually, the usb stick is mounted in /media
[15:56] <wols>  researcher why are these files owned by root?
[15:56] <blz> kostkon, can you remind me what the command is to check the version?
[15:56] <overclucker> mikubuntu: I'm guessing you may have downloaded it to ~/Downloads directory. try: 'ls ~/Downloads' to see if your downloaded file is there.
[15:56] <kostkon> blz, lsb_release -a
[15:57] <researcher> wols: After recovery from crash
[15:57] <blz> kostkon, 11.10.  Good thing I checked!
[15:57] <kostkon> blz, hmm
[15:57] <researcher> Please help me here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1277145/
[15:57] <wols> researcher: no, that doesn't expalin it. you want to chown them to the "niku" user. all of them
[15:57] <blz> kostkon, maybe I'm not using the right command?
[15:57] <researcher> wols: yes
[15:58] <mikubuntu> overclucker: nope, cause i'm not even sure which file(s) to download from http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/PyBookReader
[15:58] <kostkon> blz, or maybe that option is not there :/
[15:58] <wols> researcher: what you wrote in that paste, what you want to do is wrong
[15:58] <Tinybird> researcher: do as wols said
[15:58] <ncfi1013__> what is the simplest command to force delete directory files?
[15:58] <kostkon> blz, give:  pactl --help
[15:58] <llutz> ncfi1013__: rm -rf foo              be carefull, it won't ask
[15:58] <kostkon> blz, and see if it lists set-default-sink as an available ooption
[15:58] <wols> ncfi1013__: rm -rf <directory>  but be very very careful with this command: no confirmation, it just deletes
[15:58] <researcher> wols: kindly help.Im not expert. I want anu user to acess every file in /niku
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> researcher  'everything for everyone' is chmod 777
[15:59] <wols> researcher: I won't help you break your system even more than it already is
[15:59] <wols> researcher: and it's not a crash which did this but probably a command you ran
[15:59] <researcher> wols: then what do I do?
[15:59] <wols> you chown all the files in this directory to niku. I already told you that
[16:00] <overclucker> mikubuntu: the most recent version seems to be on the sourceforge link.
[16:00] <mikubuntu> overclucker: not here? http://pybookreader.narod.ru/download.html
[16:00] <researcher> wols: how to type that command?
[16:00] <blz> kostkon, hmm I don't see set-default-sink... Here's the output, in case you see something I don't:  http://hastebin.com/sokibofawe.cpp
[16:00] <wols> researcher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions#Changing_the_File_Owner_and_Group
[16:00] <Npc> i'm trying to change my wifi-driver because wifi has been working quite badly
[16:01] <wols> Npc: which wlan chip?
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> wols  better don't mess with permissions etc, if you don't know what you are doing, which is obviously the case
[16:01] <ncfi1013__> what i want specifically is to delete folders inside of a particular directory but not the main directory
[16:01] <wols> MonkeyDust: be careful :)
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> wols  that was for researcher
[16:01] <overclucker> mikubuntu: that page only has up to version 0.4.11, while sourceforge has up to version 0.5
[16:01] <wols> MonkeyDust: he already did. that's why he has this problem right now
[16:01] <Npc> Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8191SEvA Wireless LAN Controller (rev 10)
[16:02] <Npc> wols: ^
[16:02] <mikubuntu> overclucker: ok, i downloaded (to downloads) 0.5
[16:02] <Npc> so i tried following this http://unixblogger.wordpress.com/2011/10/18/the-pain-of-an-realtek-rtl8111rtl8168-ethernet-card/
[16:02] <wols> Npc: and which driver do you want instead of the default one?
[16:02] <Npc> i downloaded from realtek's homepage a driver
[16:02] <mikubuntu> overclucker: and i have a terminal open
[16:02] <wols> oh. vendor provided ones. ick
[16:02] <researcher> can anybody tell me how to login  as a root from command line>
[16:02] <darkelfjuggalo> is there supposed to be an sd* for the memory Stick? or do I call it PENDRIVE since that is what it is named?
[16:03] <overclucker> mikubuntu: cd to ~/Downloads and tar -xvf PyBook<tab>
[16:03] <Tinybird> researcher: su
[16:03] <wols> darkelfjuggalo: there is a sd* yes. you don't want to rename it and it shouldn't be necessary either
[16:03] <Npc> but that blog is for some other driver
[16:03] <mikubuntu> overclucker: i don't know the command to cd
[16:03] <Npc> and things get different
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> darkelfjuggalo  plug the usb stick in the pc, then type sudo fdisk -l to see its dev-name
[16:03] <wols> Npc: what is the actual problem you encounter?
[16:03] <overclucker> mikubuntu: cd ~/Downloads
[16:04] <Npc> wols: when i'm in university network the connection is very unstable and after a moment starts only disconnecting and connecting
[16:04] <kostkon> blz, damn. stupid of me. give: pacmd and then try to give set-default-sink 1 in there. then type exit.
[16:04] <DaemonicApathy> Any clue as to the easiest way to overclock an i7-2670QM in Ubuntu?
[16:04] <Npc> wols: i have dualboot and performance under windows is not that bad
[16:05] <wols> DaemonicApathy: you simply don't. overclocking laptops always ends in tears and bills
[16:05] <wols> Npc: the problem installing the driver. not the problem with the wlan chip itself
[16:05] <mikubuntu> overclucker: ok, so now term says:   ~/Downloads$
[16:05] <darkelfjuggalo> my fdisk: I'm not aure which one is the USB http://pastebin.com/uyqAWiBU
[16:05] <Npc>     insmod ./src/r8168.ko
[16:05] <Npc> you insert the new kernel module (the driver) into the kernel.
[16:05] <DaemonicApathy> Aww...ok. Thanks, wols.
[16:05] <Npc> i don't know what i should do with this driver
[16:06] <wols> Npc: bad idea. you have compiled the module and that .ko file exists?
[16:06] <Npc> to accomplish that thing above
[16:06] <mikubuntu> overclucker: what about dependencies?
[16:06] <overclucker> mikubuntu: tar -xf PyBook<tab>  the tab should autocomplete the rest of the file name
[16:06] <overclucker> mikubuntu: we'll get to that next
[16:06] <Npc> wols: i have some different name .ko files as this is a different driver
[16:06] <blz> kostkon, it accepts the command, but nothing seems to have changed
[16:06] <Npc> and they are located in different place
[16:06] <kostkon> blz, you need to test it. try playing smthing
[16:07] <wols> Npc: you have a .ko module?
[16:07] <kostkon> blz, and see if it comes out of your usb speakers
[16:07] <wols> Npc: and if yes: what's the filename?
[16:07] <blz> blz, yeah that's what I'm doing
[16:07] <blz> sound is still coming out of the onboard speakers
[16:07] <kostkon> blz, right
[16:07] <kostkon> blz, hmm
[16:08] <Npc> wols: i got rtl8192se/rtl8192se.ko
[16:08] <mikubuntu> overclucker: bash: syntax error near unexpected token 'newline'
[16:08] <blz> kostkon, interestingly enough, there's now an asterisk next to 'index 1' when I output list-sinks
[16:08] <blz> kostkon, but that sink is listed as suspended...
[16:08] <kostkon> blz, hmm
[16:08] <mikubuntu> overclucker: still at ~/Downloads$
[16:08] <blz> kostkon, shall I try suspend-sink 1 0?
[16:08] <kostkon> blz, is your speakers on? :P
[16:08] <wols> Npc: go to your kernel version directory under /lib/modules/3* for your current kernel
[16:09] <blz> kostkon, haha good call... let's check!
[16:09] <overclucker> mikubuntu: if you've run the tar -xvf command, next: cd PyBook<tab><enter>
[16:09] <Npc> wols: what next?
[16:10] <wols> Npc: when you are there, you further go down into drivers/net/wireless/rtlwifi/rtl8192se  that's where you copy your new rtl8192se.ko file you compiled yourself
[16:10] <blz> kostkon, yeah they're on.  In fact, the volume/mute controls on the speakers seem to work!
[16:10] <wols> Npc: then run sudo depmod -a
[16:10] <blz> kostkon, and when I unplug the speakers all sound stopps
[16:10] <kostkon> blz, so it works??
[16:10] <mikubuntu> overclucker: tar -xvf OR tar -xf  ??
[16:11] <blz> kostkon, well, no... still no sound coming out...
[16:11] <blz> the sound is coming out of the onboard speakers, not the USB speakers I'm trying to set up
[16:11] <daydreamer> hi everybody
[16:11] <codemaniac> mikubuntu: v option is for verbose output
[16:11] <intrader> Anyone, at the end of my rope. I find a sups print server with and HP printer  to which I can connect via the web and print a test page. In the printers applet I enter ipp://<IP_ADDRESS>:631/printers/HP_Deskjet_5400_Series, but when I print a test page it goes to the localhost which is not correct
[16:11] <blz> kostkon, here's the list-sinks output:  http://hastebin.com/kohinowine.avrasm
[16:11] <TJ-> Npc: When the Wifi was behaving badly, was it in a network with more than one Access Point?
[16:12] <blz> kostkon, wait... crap... now index 1 disappeared
[16:12] <blz> wtf
[16:12] <overclucker> mikubuntu: i figured you would want to know that the command actually ran instead of silent output.
[16:12] <Npc> TJ-: yes
[16:13] <TJ-> Npc: Then see this bug. You may not be alone (unfortunately I don't see any definite fix, although there appears to be a workaround) bug/1000208
[16:13] <kostkon> blz, unplug and plug in the speakers again
[16:13] <TJ-> Npc bug 1000208
[16:13] <blz> kostkon, it came back:  http://hastebin.com/gawubonawa.avrasm
[16:13] <blz> kostkon, it's listed as index 2 now =/
[16:14] <ahmedipa> Question1 I want to running windows 7 under ubuntu 12.04
[16:14] <mikubuntu> overclucker: so, i don't know if i've 'run' it or not -- i put in the terminal:   tar -xf PyBook<tab> and so i guess that's the silent one?  its back to a prompt of ~/Downloads$
[16:14] <ahmedipa> what is best way to do it ?
[16:14] <bazhang> ahmedipa, then use virtualbox
[16:14] <SkippersBoss> virtual box
[16:14] <kostkon> blz, try: set-default-sink alsa_output.usb-1130_USB_AUDIO-00-AUDIO.analog-stereo
[16:14] <robde> hello, i don’t know much about linux .. what should the permissions of my home folder be on a server with many users? right now it’s 711.
[16:15] <overclucker> mikubuntu: silent means that it ran successfully. next: cd PyBook<tab><enter>
[16:15] <ahmedipa> bazhang: I have virtualbox
[16:15] <kostkon> blz, and then try: set-sink-input-mute 0
[16:15] <bazhang> ahmedipa, then install windows as a virtual machine in it
[16:15] <kostkon> blz, eeer set-sink-input-mute alsa_output.usb-1130_USB_AUDIO-00-AUDIO.analog-stereo 0
[16:16] <wols> robde: that's alright
[16:16] <ahmedipa> bazhang: I have already installed windows 7
[16:16] <blz> kostkon did you mean set-sink-input-mute 0 0 ?
[16:16] <blz> kostkon, because it's complaining that it can't parse the index
[16:16] <ahmedipa> just I want to control windows7 inside ubuntu
[16:16] <mikubuntu> overclucker: so now prompt is:  ~/Downloads/PyBookReader -0.5.0$
[16:16] <kostkon> blz, like this? set-sink-input-mute 0 alsa_output.usb-1130_USB_AUDIO-00-AUDIO.analog-stereo
[16:17] <blz> kostkon, "failed to parse mute switch"
[16:17] <overclucker> mikubuntu: from this point on, i am going to give you modified install instructions, so that PyBookReader will show up as an installed package in your package manager.
[16:17] <mikubuntu> overclucker: you're the boss of me
[16:17] <blz> good god this is weird...
[16:17] <overclucker> mikubuntu: sudo apt-get install libxml2-dev python-gtk2-dev checkinstall
[16:18] <kostkon> blz, then try either set-sink-input-mute 0 2 or set-sink-input-mute 2 0
[16:18] <ahmedipa> bazhang: http://img4host.net/upload/1318182850799454d38a9.png
[16:18] <blz> I get either "failed to parse mute switch" or "no sink input found with this index"
[16:19] <ahmedipa> bazhang: this is the problem that I face
[16:19] <intrader> Anyone listening, the local cups server on the ubuntu box is capable of issuing a test page and reach the cups server at <IP_ADDRESS>:631. So why does the print command from application not reach the printer?
[16:19] <mikubuntu> overclucker: wow, does that seem right, over 62 mb to install?  (its installing)
[16:19] <daydreamer> dsf+
[16:19] <robde> wols: somebody claimed that he had reading access to my home directory
[16:20] <robde> wols: or the webserver directory, I think (it’s 740)
[16:20] <blz> kostkon, however doing 'suspend-sink 0 1' seems to function, although my video lags like crazy until i reset it with 'suspend-sink 0 0'
[16:20] <overclucker> mikubuntu: that's right.
[16:20] <harushimo> I installed ssh on my ubuntu machine. I get a connection timed out message
[16:20] <harushimo> what do I need to check for?
[16:21] <wols> robde: not with 711. he might be able to list content tho. you can always set it to 700 if you want to
[16:21] <mikubuntu> overclucker: ok, now back to prompt of:   ~/Downloads/PyBookReader -0.5.0$
[16:21] <TJ-> harushimo: Did you install "openssh-server" ?
[16:21] <harushimo> yes
[16:21] <wols> harushimo: dpkg -l |grep ssh|grep server
[16:21] <kostkon> blz, hmm. turn it on again, then run top or htop if you can
[16:21] <overclucker> mikubuntu: sudo checkinstall python setup.py install
[16:21] <wols> harushimo: sudo netstat -anp |grep LIST   check if something (sshd) listens at port 22
[16:21] <TJ-> harushimo: And when you connect from another machine on the same network you get connection timed out? I'd suspect a firewall preventing incoming connections on the SSH-server PC
[16:22] <robde> wols: do I need to set the permissions to all enclosed files too? or only the home folder itself?
[16:22] <harushimo> I open up the port
[16:22] <blz> kostkon, I think my pulseaudio daemon crashed when I exited pacmd ...
[16:22] <mikubuntu> overclucker: Should I create a default set of package docs? Y?
[16:22] <kostkon> blz, :/
[16:22] <TJ-> harushimo: As wols said - check that the process is listening.
[16:22] <blz> kostkon, how would I restart it?
[16:22] <blz> maybe i'll just reboot the whole damn thing
[16:22] <wols> robde: only home folder. the user has its own settings for file permissions (umask)
[16:23] <kostkon> blz, it should have restarted by itself?
[16:23] <overclucker> mikubuntu: yup, it's also ok to leave an empty description (just press enter)
[16:23] <blz> kostkon, I'm just going to restart it
[16:23] <kostkon> blz, otherwise, try killing it:  pulseaudio -k and then starting it again:  pulseaudio -D
[16:24] <blz> aah too late... I just hit the reboot switch
[16:24] <mikubuntu> overclucker: where is that description, in the app menu you mean?
[16:24] <blz> I'll keep that in mind, though
[16:24] <ahmedipa> :)
[16:24] <harushimo> I got sshd running in the background
[16:24] <harushimo> I just check my processes
[16:24] <ahmedipa> :-/
[16:24] <TJ-> harushimo: Can you connect to it locally? From the same PC?
[16:25] <overclucker> mikubuntu: it will show up in the package information, if you were to view it in synaptic, or type apt-cache search pybookreader
[16:25] <mikubuntu> overclucker: if there's a way to have the description (Teleprompter) i guess that would be best
[16:25] <kostkon> blz, try listing the sinks, check the indexes and then run the suspend cmd against the usb speakers not the onboard card like you did above
[16:25] <whoever> hi all,  my mouse clicks seem to randomly stop getting registerd by ubuntu. I have tried both a wireless and a wired mouse. I am on 12.04, and have also tried dist-upgrade, and I still have the same prob can someone assist
[16:25] <harushimo> would do you mean locally from the same pc?
[16:25] <Last-Zero> hey there
[16:25] <mikubuntu> overclucker: so just enter y for now, correct?
[16:26] <harushimo> I am using the same pc to run my test
[16:26] <harushimo> it should work
[16:26] <blz> kostkon, I believe I already tried that.  Let me do it again real quick, though
[16:26] <harushimo> do I need to change something in the config file
[16:26] <overclucker> until it asks you if you want to include optional files,
[16:26] <kostkon> blz, although it says:  state: SUSPENDED suspend cause: IDLE which is normal i believe
[16:26] <blz> kostkon, hmm looks like I broke something
[16:27] <kostkon> blz, you arent getting any sound at all?
[16:27] <blz> I'm getting pa_context_connect() failed:  Connection refused
[16:27] <kostkon> blz, damn
[16:27] <blz> kostkon, actually X isn't even starting up =/
[16:27] <kostkon> blz, ok, just delete your .pulse folder
[16:27] <blz> ok
[16:28] <kostkon> blz, then reboot again maybe
[16:28] <blz> ok
[16:28] <mikubuntu> overclucker: ok, so now its asking:  Please write a description for the package.  End your description with an empty line or EOF.  So here I enter 'Teleprompter'?  (enter) ?
[16:28] <overclucker> mikubuntu: there are soem files that were needed to build it, but do not need to be installed, so make sure to answer correctly when asked about them
[16:28] <wols> harushimo: telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 22    what do you see?
[16:28] <overclucker> mikubuntu: yes just press enter
[16:28] <harushimo> I'm doing that right now
[16:28] <harushimo> give me sec
[16:29] <harushimo> I get command not found
[16:29] <harushimo> like this: <IP_ADDRESS> 22?
[16:29] <whoever> harushimo: are you asking me ? or talking to someone else
[16:29] <bekks> harushimo: "telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 22"
[16:30] <wols> harushimo: I gave you a netstat command earlier, what is the output of that?
[16:30] <blz> kostkon, ok seems to be back to square 1, which is goo =)
[16:30] <harushimo> tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN      18760/sshd
[16:30] <harushimo> its running. I'm just curious why i can't connect
[16:30] <kostkon> blz, yes. try again to set your usb speakers as the default sink
[16:31] <bekks> Because it is running vor IPv6 ONLY.
[16:31] <bekks> Edit the sshd_config and disable the IPv6 startup, restart sshd.
[16:31] <blz> kostkon, hmm so I just noticed something
[16:31] <blz> the usb speakers won't show up in list-sinks unless I enable them in alsamixer first
[16:31] <bekks> harushimo: ^^
[16:31] <kostkon> blz, what do you mean enable?
[16:31] <harushimo> my sentiments exactly
[16:31] <blz> kostkon, I don't know if that's of any significance for us, but it would be nice not to have to do that ever time I reboot =/
[16:31] <Sahtimo> anyone here who knows how to disable activity led on logitech c510 webcam? i am using ubuntu 12.04 cli
[16:32] <blz> kostkon, I type `alsamixer` then F6, then I select them from the menu that shows up
[16:32] <bekks> harushimo: In the /etc/ssh/sshd_config: ListenAddress <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:32] <blz> kostkon, actually... nvm.  It seems as though they just take a few minutes to start showing up
[16:32] <kostkon> blz, hmmm
[16:32] <mikubuntu> overclucker: http://imagebin.org/231841
[16:32] <blz> kostkon, if you don't mind, I'm going to reboot and not touch it for 2 or 3 minutes
[16:32] <harushimo> okay
[16:32] <bekks> harushimo: EVERY other line containing ListenAddress should be prefixed with #
[16:32] <kostkon> blz, no prob here
[16:32] <madjoe> hi! I installed conky 1.9.0 from my Ubuntu Software Center, but when I "conky -v" it says it's still 1.8.1... any clues?
[16:33] <blz> kostkon, ok, brb then =)
[16:33] <harushimo> yeah it is
[16:33] <megagolgoth> hi
[16:34] <harushimo> i'm using a port forwarding service like dyndns.org. I've setup it before
[16:34] <overclucker> mikubuntu: that looks good. we wont worry about the setting dependencies or conflicts.
[16:34] <harushimo> i don't why this doesn't work
[16:34] <mikubuntu> overclucker: so just ENTER?
[16:34] <bekks> harushimo: Forget your forwarding for a moment. Did you restart sshd now?
[16:34] <overclucker> mikubuntu: yup
[16:34] <harushimo> no I haven't
[16:34] <harushimo> restart sshd right?
[16:35] <bekks> harushimo: sudo service sshd restart
[16:36] <ahmedipa> hi how to control ( windows 7 which is installed already ) inside ubuntu
[16:36] <Rezonoisika> hi
[16:36] <bekks> ahmedipa: How to control _what_ inside Ubuntu?
[16:36] <mikubuntu> overclucker: Some of the files created by the installation are inside the home directory: /home ... You probably don't want them to be included in the package.  Do you want me to list them? [n] :
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: how do you mean 'control'?
[16:36] <harushimo> sudo service sshd restart
[16:36] <harushimo> sshd: unrecognized service
[16:36] <harushimo> I got this error
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[16:36] <harushimo> I did
[16:37] <harushimo> its the newest version
[16:37] <overclucker> mikubuntu: press enter or type no to that
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: sudo apt-get --reinstall install openssh-server
[16:37] <ahmedipa> bekks: windows 7
[16:37] <harushimo> ok
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: how do you mean 'control'?
[16:37] <blz> kostkon, ok I'm back with the verdict:  it just takes a few minutes for the usb device to show up in list-sinks
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> ahmedipa  mount the windows 7 partition if you want to write to it
[16:38] <mikubuntu> overclucker: Should I exclude them from the package?  (Saying yes is a good idea)  [n]:
[16:38] <bekks> harushimo: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[16:38] <overclucker> mikubuntu: answer yes
[16:38] <bekks> harushimo: The openssh-server is already installed since you have a /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: if you used wubi, you can access the files at /host
[16:38] <wols> bekks: that doesn't follow
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: access to the files isn't really controlling it though
[16:38] <mikubuntu> overclucker: just 'y' correct?
[16:38] <bekks> wols: ?
[16:39] <kostkon> blz, that's not so bad, i guess
[16:39] <wols> bekks: you can have that config file without any ssh package installed
[16:39] <overclucker> mikubuntu: either y or yes should work
[16:39] <blz> kostkon, yeah it rather simplifies things
[16:39] <blz> kostkon, so anyway, what did you want me to try next?
[16:39] <bekks> wols: HE has a running sshd instance listening on IPv6 ...
[16:39] <bekks> wols: So I guess that package is installed.
[16:39] <kostkon> blz, try setting it as the default sink again, then play something
[16:39] <wols> bekks: apt-get install openssh-server;apt-get remove openssh-server. no you have the file but not ssh server
[16:40] <bekks> wols: And harushimo has a running sshd instance, too.
[16:40] <wols> *now
[16:40] <harushimo> trust me
[16:40] <tf81_netbook> in xubuntu where do i set my displays to be independent? only options i see are cloned, or one or the other
[16:40] <harushimo> this is always happen with ssh
[16:40] <harushimo> somehow I figured it out and then I forget it
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: how do you mean 'control'?
[16:40] <harushimo> this time I'm writing it down
[16:41] <bekks> harushimo: Did you restart your ssh now?
[16:41] <mikubuntu> overclucker: says its done, but i don't find it in the menu anywhere under 'PyBookReader' or 'Teleprompter'
[16:42] <bekks> harushimo: If so, run and pastebin the netstat command from above again
[16:42] <tf81_netbook> anyone?
[16:42] <harushimo> got it
[16:42] <overclucker> mikubuntu: you can start the program with pybr, it should already be installed
[16:42] <harushimo> one sec
[16:42] <ahmedipa> I mean http://www.ubuntututorials.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/rdpubuntu2-400x352.png
[16:42] <blz> kostkon, HOLY SH*T SUCCESS!
[16:42] <blz> kostkon, What did we do differently?
[16:42] <kostkon> blz, :P
[16:43] <blz> kostkon, and more importantly, how do I make these changes persistent?
[16:43] <kostkon> blz, the question is: is it gonna survive a reboot :P
[16:43] <blz> kostkon, and *most* importantly thanks you so very much!
[16:43] <kostkon> blz, try rebooting :P
[16:43] <blz> kostkon, alright. reboot.... ACTIVATE!
[16:43] <blz> kostkon, first piece of bad news...
[16:43] <mikubuntu> overclucker: also it says it's been installed to:  /home/mikubuntu/Downloads/PyBookReader-0.5.0/pybookreader_0.5.0-1_i386.deb    .... does this mean if i delete my 'Downloads' file it will be lost?
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: there is a way to make an installed OS run in Vbox, it is known to cause data corruption and games will not run
[16:44] <blz> kostkon, ...exiting pacmd crashes pulseaudio
[16:44] <kostkon> blz, lets hope you wont need to run it again ;P
[16:44] <blz> yeah, you're right
[16:44] <harushimo> https://gist.github.com/3885303
[16:45] <harushimo> this is from netstat command
[16:45] <blz> kostkon, although I suspect I'll have to delete the .pulse directory again...
[16:45] <clueful> can anyone tell me how to run a command as a service (python -m Pyro4.naming) which is a python remote object server in this case, ideally on startup
[16:45] <bekks> harushimo: Line 6. You have a running sshd for IPv4 now.
[16:45] <ahmedipa> ActionParsnip:http://www.ubuntututorials.com/connect-windows-7-remote-desktop-ubuntu-12-04/
[16:45] <bekks> Now just connect to it.
[16:46] <ahmedipa> ActionParsnip: I found this link
[16:46] <mikubuntu> overclucker: so i launched with terminal, but when i close the terminal the program closed
[16:46] <harushimo> I've always had sshd for IPV4
[16:46] <ahmedipa> ActionParsnip: but this run ubuntu
[16:46] <bekks> harushimo: No, you didnt. Thats whats you said.
[16:46] <harushimo> if I confused you, I'm so sorry
[16:46] <harushimo> no no
[16:47] <overclucker> mikubuntu: you may want to save the .deb file somewhere. it's been installed on your system, so removing the directory wont remove it from your system, but if you want to install the package you created at another time you may want to keep the deb
[16:47] <harushimo> I have version for IPv4
[16:47] <harushimo> I'm sorry for the confusion
[16:47] <harushimo> IPv4 vs IPv6 matter
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> ahmedipa  what goes wrong when you follow that tutorial?
[16:47] <blz> kostkon, ok so the changes are most definitely *not* persistent
[16:47] <Sahtimo> someone say my nick, im testing hilight
[16:48] <harushimo> that is my fault. I messed up
[16:48] <kostkon> blz, did at least it boot ok?
[16:48] <blz> kostkon, yeah it booted just fine =)
[16:48] <daydreamer> hello
[16:49] <ahmedipa> MonkeyDust: this run ubuntu instead of windows 7
[16:49] <Guest90019> Hi there, i have a laptop with a broadcom wireless 8.01/11n but the backtrack don't recognize the drivers. How can i do to install them ? I'm not really using ubuntu, i'm trying backtrack. I download jockey-gtk to search for drivers but it doesn't find anything. However, Linux Mint detects and activats it.
[16:49] <ahmedipa> MonkeyDust: I think the problem from ip
[16:49] <mikubuntu> overclucker: i guess i should try it out for a while to make sure its what i need (not too many open source choices out there i found) before attaching it to the menu?
[16:49] <kostkon> blz, ill just say becuase it takes some time for the speakers to be recognised by pulse, pulse set as the default sink the 2nd available device, your onboard
[16:49] <ahmedipa> MonkeyDust:  ip of ubuntu such as windows 7
[16:49] <blz> kostkon, my theory as well =)
[16:49] <darkelfjuggalo> and once more 'linuximage.bin' missing or corrupt
[16:49] <kostkon> blz, try uplugging and pluggin in the speakers and then try to play smthing
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> ahmedipa  start from the beginning, what were you doing and what went wrong, before you came here
[16:50] <ahmedipa> y7gn
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: in a dual boot, the other OS isn't running
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: so there is no IP of Windows
[16:50] <blz> kostkon, even though they're listed in pactl list sinks?
[16:51] <deanfx> Is it possible to allow remote connections w/ control via SSH? I have SSH access to my linux VPS but cannot remote/VNC in. Any ideas?
[16:51] <overclucker> mikubuntu: that sounds like a good idea. since you used checkinstall to install the python source package the debian way, you can remove it easily with sudo dpkg -r pybookreader if you decide to uninstall it.
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | deanfx
[16:52] <cthulhu2> Wubi installation v/s dedicated ubuntu, what would be the performance difference?
[16:52] <kostkon> blz, yeah, no problem with that. you can hot-plug and unplug audio devices at will, pulseaudio uses udev to check for any changes on the status of your connected audio devices
[16:52] <deanfx> ActionParsnip, I know that, but I cannot allow remote connections without GUI access...I only have CLI
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> deanfx: what will they be doing once the get the desktop accessible?
[16:52] <mikubuntu> overclucker: thanks a lot for the help -- now i have to figure out how to load text to it.  i appreciate.
[16:52] <blz> kostkon, mmk
[16:52] <deanfx> It is for me
[16:53] <deanfx> It's a VPS
[16:53] <overclucker> mikubuntu: you're welcome.
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> cthulhu2  wubi is only a pseudo-installation to make yoy familiar with the ubuntu interface
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> deanfx: could use X forwarding, you can run the apps you want (securely) and they will show on the client system
[16:53] <blz> kostkon, ok so now it's showing up, but as Sink #2
[16:53] <kostkon> blz, yeah, does it have the asterisk next to it?
[16:53] <blz> kostkon, let me just check the pacmd for an asterisk
[16:53] <cthulhu2> MonkeyDust: Wubi packs the entire filesystem and everthing into an image right? So shouldn't the performance difference be only at boot?
[16:54] <wols> cthulhu2: it needs to access that image everytime you do an operation on disk. it will always be a lot slower
[16:54] <blz> kostkon, nope, the default went back to the onboard card
[16:54] <kostkon> blz, daaaamn
[16:54] <cthulhu2> wols: It is not decompressed completely at boot?
[16:55] <blz> kostkon, I know, right?!
[16:55] <darkelfjuggalo> I've attempted to make a USB Installer for ubuntu 12.04.01 for a 64-bit Toshiba Satelite Laptop more than once...the desktop iso claims the linuximage.bin is missing or corrupt, and the alternate iso fails at several steps of the install
[16:56] <intrader> Anyone listening, the local cups server on the ubuntu box is capable of issuing a test page and reach the cups server at <IP_ADDRESS>:631. So why does the print command from application not reach the printer?
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> darkelfjuggalo: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> cthulhu2  wubi is an installation inside windows, so to say -- better install ubuntu on its own partition, independent of windows
[16:57] <mikubuntu> overclucker: so could you help me set up a file/folder where i could keep text files for the prompter?  or should it accept libre office files?
[16:58] <cthulhu2> MonkeyDust: Yes, I understand. I just wanted to know how Wubi actually works.
[16:59] <kostkon> blz, try this one liner: pacmd set-default-sink alsa_output.usb-1130_USB_AUDIO-00-AUDIO.analog-stereo
[16:59] <vedic> What would you recommend for a server? 10.04 or 12.04?
[16:59] <blz> kostkon, mmk
[16:59] <vedic> From security and reliability point of view
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> vedic: Precise is supported longer, there will also be a later kernel which will have some extra nicenesses in.
[17:00] <kostkon> vedic, 12.04 server will be supported until 2017, 10.04 until 2015
[17:00] <ahmedipa> sorry I feel that I want to go
[17:01] <ahmedipa> later I will chat about it
[17:01] <darkelfjuggalo> Yes Action, I Md5 the test the desktop download, then MD5 lined up with what ubuntu says it should be
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: the only way you can do it is with virtualbox
[17:01] <kostkon> blz, if it works, at least you can do it manually every time you boot your system, or maybe make a bash script that does it for you
[17:02] <blz> kostkon, it's possible to set on-startup cronjobs, right?
[17:02] <mikubuntu> overclucker: thanks for help -- i'll consult with the developer about use.
[17:02] <vedic> kostkon: So there is no rush to update it to 12.04. I think server reliablity if more important
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> blz: yes, use the @boot syntax
[17:02] <blz> ActionParsnip, cool, thanks!
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> blz: or it may be @startup   something like that
[17:03] <intrader> Anyone listening, the local cups server (localhost at <IP_ADDRESS>)  on the ubuntu box is capable of issuing a test page and reach the cups server at <IP_ADDRESS>:631. So why does the print command from application not reach the printer?
[17:03] <kostkon> blz, i suppose so. the only thing youll need to make sure is that your script sleeps for a considerable time (2-3mins?) before calling the set default sink cmd
[17:03] <darkelfjuggalo> im about to unetbootin 10.04 and let it upgrade after install is complete, if unetbootin screws up then I'm out of options that I know are available to me
[17:04] <blz> kostkon, right right
[17:04] <blz> ok let's give it a shot
[17:05] <arkiver> I want to install autoCAD on ubuntu. But I think it runs only on windows and Mac :'( So Would it be a good idea to install it in wine ?
[17:05] <tozen_> hi people! how can i change mplayer's window size by keyboard? thx
[17:05] <bazhang> !appdb | arkiver
[17:06] <blz> kostkon, ok the one-liner works
[17:06] <blz> kostkon, would be nice to get rid of that lag, though =/
[17:06] <islandmonkey> arkhiver: Nope: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=23660
[17:06] <islandmonkey> arkiver: Nope: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=23660
[17:06] <kostkon> blz, not a clue about that :/
[17:07] <kostkon> blz, it could be anything
[17:07] <blz> kostkon, well you've done more than your fair share!
[17:07] <blz> Thank you so much!
[17:07] <islandmonkey> arkiver: Given a rating of 'garbage'
[17:07] <kostkon> blz, no prob
[17:07] <tozen_> knock knock!! does somebody hear me?
[17:08] <bazhang> tozen_, the mplayer cli? or the gui
[17:08] <tozen_> giu
[17:08] <kostkon> blz, try connecting the speakers to a difference port for a start ;)  preferably a port on the back of the pc
[17:09] <darkelfjuggalo> arkhiver: you are likely better off creating a Virtual machine with Windows as the Host Virtual Box is a good option for this
[17:09] <blz> kostkon, what would that change?
[17:09] <darkelfjuggalo> Windows as the Client
[17:10] <islandmonkey> ^ or do that, if you have a Windows disc lying around
[17:10] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/mencoder.1.html    tozen_
[17:10] <h0lyc0de> wow I haven't seen a Windows machine since 1995
[17:10] <bazhang> look near the bottom for the correct switches tozen_
[17:10] <kostkon> blz, sometimes it makes a difference. especially usb ports that are at the front, tend to be on the weak side as far as wattage or whatever is concerned
[17:10] <arkiver> darkelfjuggalo, But if I have to use use autocad for commercial purposes, I'll have to buy a copy of windows too right ?
[17:11] <blz> kostkon, ok.  I'll give it a shot.
[17:12] <darkelfjuggalo> arkiver: not necessarily... it's better to be safe, but I don't see why option for downloading windows ISO here I cant varify how well they work though http://www.mydigitallife.info/download-windows-7-iso-official-32-bit-and-64-bit-direct-download-links/
[17:12] <tozen_> bazhang, thx mate!
[17:13] <darkelfjuggalo> arkiver: I don't see why...beacuse you're not making money off the microsoft product
[17:14] <happy> guys how can we create infrastructure wlan connection?
[17:14] <TJ-> happy: Use "hostapd" to create an Access Point
[17:15] <arkiver> darkelfjuggalo, Hmm.. Guess I'll have to RTFM the terms and condition of use of autoCAD for commercial purposes
[17:15] <happy> mate hostapd doesnot support ma wlan driver
[17:17] <darkelfjuggalo> might be your best option.
[17:17] <happy> ney alternatives to hostapd?
[17:18] <TJ-> happy: which wifi device is it?
[17:18] <happy> broadcom 802.11
[17:18] <happy> driver name wl
[17:18] <TJ-> happy: which device, though. Broadcom make *lots* of 802.11 chipsets!
[17:20] <happy> device??
[17:20] <happy> did not get u?
[17:20] <AminosAmigos> Hello :) i am installing ubuntu 12.04 on a 4Go ram i think i won't need swap right ?
[17:20] <h0lyc0de> arkiver, BrisCAD is a good alternative to AutoCAD
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> AminosAmigos  better have it available, you can enable or disable it at will
[17:21] <islandmonkey> happy: What is the *exact* product name of your wlan chipset
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> h0lyc0de: http://www.osalt.com/autocad
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> h0lyc0de: source: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=AutoCAD+ubuntu+alternative
[17:21] <happy> BCM4313
[17:22] <h0lyc0de> I'll take a look at that
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | happy
[17:22] <AminosAmigos> i ll leave it up to the installer :D
[17:22] <happy> BCM4313
[17:24] <happy> hostapd doest supports BCM4313 i guess??
[17:25] <islandmonkey> happy: Let me check, I appear to have that card
[17:26] <happy> ok..:)
[17:26] <AminosAmigos> i need to save the output of running a software in debugging mode " ubuntu-tweak -d > debug.txt" didn't work :/
[17:27] <trism> AminosAmigos: if it writes to stderr you might want: ubuntu-tweak -d &> debug.txt; to grab both
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> AminosAmigos: does ubuntu-tweak have a '-d' switch?
[17:27] <islandmonkey> or 2&>1
[17:27] <jan77> hi
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> hi jan77
[17:27] <TJ-> happy: According to the linux-wireless developers, the driver for the BCM4313 doesn't support AP mode yet. See http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211
[17:28] <AminosAmigos> yeah they told me with there twitter account
[17:28] <happy> hmmm
[17:29] <happy> ney alternative to hostapd?
[17:29] <jan77> my usb-soundcard won't play me the bass channel everytime I play a new stream until I shortly switch to the internal soundcard and back to the usb one. how can I fix this?
[17:29] <Tdaug> ActionParsnip:  So, the NTSF partition was healthy.  No problems there.
[17:29] <AminosAmigos> thanks @trism && islandmonkey
[17:30] <TJ-> happy: I've just told you. The driver *does not* support AP mode
[17:31] <happy> ok
[17:31] <arkiver> In ubuntu 12.04, on pressing the alt button, a "enter command" box pops up. How to uninstall it, or disable it ?
[17:33] <happy> prb z ma xperia S doesnot detects adhoc networks so i wanna make infrastructure network as to share ma usb net connection
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> arkiver: its called the HUD
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> arkiver: you can disable it with ubuntu-tweak
[17:34] <sharp15> is there an official ubuntu repository that contains the 'Google Voice and Video Plugin' .deb files (64-bit)?
[17:34] <TJ-> happy: I'm afraid you'll need to use a different WiFi device that has a driver that does support AP (infrastructure) or Ad-Hoc mode
[17:34] <Tdaug> ActionParsnip:  I was thinking, would it just be easier to uninstall Ubuntu from my machine, and re-install it as the default, overwritting Windows completely?
[17:34] <puppy_parade> hmm, I've noticed recently that makimizing windows is pausing for a second
[17:34] <puppy_parade> it didn't used to do this.
[17:35] <happy> so its quite complicated
[17:35] <Purian23> I too am trying to install 12.04 from a usb atm
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Tdaug: possibly, if you use Win7 you can resize your NTFS and install to the freed space
[17:35] <Purian23> It's saying no root system is defined, please correct this from partioning menu
[17:35] <thor_> HI
[17:35] <Tdaug> ActionParsnip: How can I do that?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Purian23: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[17:36] <happy> purian23 put a /
[17:36] <Purian23> I just formated them in Fat32
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Tdaug: windows disk manager
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Purian23: ahh, you need to set a partition as /
[17:36] <happy> yup put /
[17:36] <tgary> Hi! How can I setup to switch between workspaces by scrolling on the desktop?
[17:37] <Purian23> ActionParsnip while defining it, im on the setup, and I have Zero OS's installed at the moment?
[17:37] <thor_> guys I have a question, I installed 3 months ago ubuentu 12.04 32bits, but now it is running the 64 bits version, how was it?
[17:37] <zak_> i got a problem with my external hdd , it is not detected any more by my computer i got some important documents in it , lusb doesnt show it .. is there any way to access it ?
[17:37] <Purian23> Was fat32 the right way, or another
[17:37] <happy> ext4
[17:37] <happy> choose ext4@purain
[17:38] <Tdaug> ActionParsnip:  Where can I find Windows Disk Manager?
[17:38] <islandmonkey> thor_: Sorry but your question doesn't make sense :)
[17:38] <Purian23> Thank you happy i'll give that a go right now!
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Purian23: thats fine, you still need a / partition
[17:38] <happy> :)
[17:38] <happy> np
[17:38] <thor_> islandmonkey why?
[17:38] <Purian23> Okay ActionParsnip try that too :)
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Tdaug: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-R7XrDa9ug
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Tdaug: not thought to maybe search the web to find how....?
[17:38] <thor_>  installed the 32 bits version, but now is it at 64 bits
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Tdaug: instead of immediately asking...
[17:39] <Tdaug> ActionParsnip:  I've been Googling for 2 days XD
[17:39] <thor_> i dont know what happened
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> thor_: the architectures are separate when you download
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Tdaug: probably the problem..google ;)
[17:39] <thor_> yes, after an update is on 64 bits
[17:40] <Purian23> Ok ActionParsnip and happy it is letting me move forward, I just want to verify Ext4 or Fat32 on ntfs lol
[17:40] <Purian23> Sorry for the n00bish
[17:40] <Tdaug> ActionParsnip:  I hope I can make this work.  I LOVE Ubuntu :)
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Tdaug: its simple enough, resize. leave free space alone, install to free space. I recommend you remove wubi too
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Purian23: the ubuntu partitions will be ext4 by default.
[17:41] <islandmonkey> thor_: So lets gather some info: So for some reason, Update Manager (soon to be horribly named Software Updater) upgraded you to 64 bit and nothing is working?
[17:41] <islandmonkey> Correct?
[17:41] <Purian23> Perfect thank you again ActionParsnip! I will change my small backup partiion to that format as well!
[17:42] <joh6nn> mysql-server-5.5 fails to install properly for me it. it fails to configure, with a message that it can't set the root password.
[17:42] <deanfx> any way to fix connection refused errors to vnc?
[17:42] <thor_> my nex question is it: island monley is almost correct, the applications are runnig, with one exeption: wine
[17:43] <joh6nn> in syslog, i see the following: 121013 13:41:34 [ERROR] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Can't find file: './mysql/user.frm' (errno: 13)
[17:43] <Tdaug> ActionParsnip:  If I do a factory restore, would it make installing the new OS easier?
[17:43] <islandmonkey> thor_: Ensure you have ia32-libs installed
[17:43] <islandmonkey> !info ia32-libs
[17:43] <thor_> using synaptic?
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Tdaug: not really, wubi is easy to remove, its in your programs and features in control panel
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> islandmonkey: why is that package needed?
[17:44] <intrader> @HELP Anyone listening, the local cups server (localhost at <IP_ADDRESS>)  on the ubuntu box is capable of issuing a test page and reach the cups server at <IP_ADDRESS>:631. So why does the print command from application not reach the printer?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> thor_: sudo apt-get install wine    and you will install wine :)
[17:44] <puppy_parade> Is there a centralized status for open source drivers?
[17:44] <Tdaug> ActionParsnip:  I don't see "Wubi" in my programs and features.  All I see is "Ubuntu"...
[17:45] <islandmonkey> ActionParsnip: Err, oh yeah ;P
[17:45] <intrader> ActionParsnip, I am still struggling with the printer issue - sorry for interrupting
[17:45] <thor_> ActionParsnip, wine only runs word, but I've installed age of mythology too, and it doesn't work
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> Tdaug: thats what it is, it will remove the wubi config etc and you will be left with windows only at boot
[17:46] <islandmonkey> thor_: Programs aren't guarenteed to work with Wine. It's a game of chance :)
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> intrader: i'm lousy at printers dude, I had such a bad time I made a script that runs every 10 seconds and watches a folder for new PDF files, then prints them and deletes them
[17:46] <kostkon> thor_, try installing the latest version of wine. it usually helps. instructions here http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu
[17:46] <thor_> i know it, islandmonkey, but the game was working well until the architecture changes
[17:46] <Tdaug> ActionParsnip:  Would you recommend I replace Win7 with Ubuntu, or try to install it within again?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> thor_: run the uninstaller app with wine and it will remove it
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Tdaug: I'd resize and make a dual boot
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> thor_  or play the windows game in a virtual machie
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> machine*
[17:47] <thor_> ok, thank you guys
[17:48] <Tdaug> ActionParsnip:  Thanks.  I think I've got it from here :D
[17:48] <vedic> debate on postgresql channel on Ubuntu is really a server OS. Join in
[17:49] <intrader> ActionParsnip, my problem is connecting. I followed your link with the result that I was able to have the printers apple accept ipp://<IP_ADDRESS>:631/printers/HP_Deskjet_5400_Series but it insisst on accsessing the local cups (localhost:631)
[17:49] <arkiver> ActionParsnip, Thanks :)
[17:49] <zak_> i got a problem with my external hdd , it is not detected any more by my computer i got some important documents in it , lusb doesnt show it .. is there any way to access it ?
[17:50] <Purian23> ActionParsnip since you're awesome lol .. Im naming my home folder  or my name/pc name/username Purian23 .. is that changeble since that will set up my home folder to that?
[17:50] <Purian23> later on
[17:50] <allu3> zak_: doesn it show up in dmesg as you plug it in?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> Purian23: you can change hostname easily enough, changing username is a bit messier
[17:51] <Purian23> Will my home folder be based on my hostname or user name?
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> Purian23  user name
[17:51] <allu3> ActionParsnip: can't he just use root and some chroot -R or something and then change the name of home to new user?
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> Purian23  /home/username
[17:51] <Purian23> Cool, thx MonkeyDust !!!
[17:51] <allu3> hups
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> allu3: the username will still need changing, its a bit more than just renaming the home folder
[17:51] <allu3> meant chown/chmod not chroot :P
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> allu3: and so forth
[17:52] <allu3> ActionParsnip: hum can't he make new user? and give right to the old ones stuff?
[17:53] <allu3> ActionParsnip: perhaps this http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/03/how-to-change-your-username-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[17:53] <wols> cthulhu2: I don't think it's even compressed. it's a filesystem in a file instead of a partition. and how can you "decompress" 5 or 10GB? where to?
[17:53] <allu3> would work for 12.04 too
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> allu3: easier to just get it right first time
[17:53] <cthulhu2> wols: yeah, makes sense
[17:53] <zivester> anyone know how to "reset" xubuntu... I updated my 12.10 yesterday and X is wayyy messed up
[17:54] <wols> zivester: messed up how?
[17:54] <zak_> allu3: lemme check
[17:54] <joh6nn> mysql-server-5.5 fails to install properly for me it. it fails to configure, with a message that it can't set the root password.
[17:54] <wols> zivester: first thing: create a new user and log in as that user. is it "OK" now?
[17:54] <zivester> multiple desktops disappeared, and all the windows are on top of each other and I can't toggle between them
[17:55]  * zivester is checking
[17:55] <allu3> zivester: quick and dirty you could try something like mv ./.config ./.config_bak and relog
[17:55] <allu3> zivester: and sounds like your wm is not running
[17:56] <allu3> zivester: try going to ctrl+alt+f1 and login, write then DISPLAY=:0.0 xfwm (or is it xfwm4 ?=
[17:56] <zivester> ya a new user works fine
[17:57] <allu3> zivester: if new user works then try with your user the ./.config thungy
[17:57] <allu3> thingy*
[17:57] <zak_> allu3: no ;/
[17:58] <allu3> zak_: does your external hd turn on when you plug it in the usb?
[17:58] <zivester> nope, moving .config doesn't help
[17:58] <allu3> zivester: you tried relog after that?
[17:59] <zivester> relogging in? yes
[17:59] <zak_> yes it can hear it turn it and the blue light after few seconds begins to flash ,, never flashed before ..:/ i even plugged on a computer with win XP running , but it also fails to detect it :/
[17:59] <sambagirl> ɯlɐɔ uı ʞɹoʍ oʇ ƃuıoƃ
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> zivester  is this link useful? havent needed/tried it myself http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/ubuntu-multi-monitor-tweaks-full-screen.html
[17:59] <zivester> not multiple monitor, just multiple desktops
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> sambagirl  doog yrev
[18:00] <allu3> zak_: sounds like hardware problem
[18:00] <zak_> allu3: yes i think so :/
[18:00] <zak_> allu3: is there any mean to access a hdd with hardware failure to try to recover some files ?
[18:01] <allu3> zak_: well you might try to open the HD and watch if it has reqular HD in it, then try to attach it directly to computer
[18:01] <allu3> zak_: if it manages to show up somehow you can use some dd magic to make a copy of the cd image and then use some tools like photorec to recofer files form it even if the disk couldn't be mounted etc
[18:01] <zak_> allu3: otherwise it won't be detected by any computer ?
[18:02] <allu3> zak_: can't know, if the data is vital you can turn to some company experted in data forencis
[18:02] <allu3> which is more recommended in such case then trying to get it out by your self
[18:02] <zak_> yeah sure thing
[18:03] <allu3> zak_: could also be that some parts of the HD usb thingy are broken and disk works just fine, then you could buy some 15-20€ case for it and fix it like that
[18:03] <zivester> u know what this looks like... like unity settings are being applied to xfce... there are no menubars on anything
[18:03] <allu3> zak_: but thats only if the problem is in the case of the external hd
[18:04] <zivester> and if it's not .config, and another user works fine... what could it be? O_o
[18:06] <zivester> gets weirder... if I'm logged into my test account and my zivester account... the test account doesn't work, if I log out of the zivester account, and switch back to test, it's working fine
[18:07] <Flux|Alt> hey, I'm having an issue with mounting a virtual jfs partition in ubuntu server
[18:08] <Daaf24> I have a question on how to search just the man 1 pages for everything containing the subject "password"
[18:08] <Flux|Alt> something about can't find loop device
[18:13] <_Tristan> How can I make an upstart thing not start on boot? I still want to be able to start it manually, but not on boot...?
[18:13] <bindi> Hello, I'm about to install Ubuntu 12.04 on my mum's laptop, she has 10.04 atm.. does Ubuntu 12.04 include a backup software that is easy to use (restoring part) and is widely configurable? I'm looking for hourly backups for a whole month, and duplicate files should obivously be only stored once
[18:14] <bindi> if not, can anyone recommend me one that does that? :)
[18:14] <trism> _Tristan: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[18:14] <islandmonkey> bindi: Yep, Deja Dup
[18:14] <islandmonkey> bindi: It's installed by default
[18:14] <bindi> i'll look into what it has to offer then :) thanks
[18:14] <_Tristan> trism: will I still be able to start it manually with "start thingy" ?
[18:15] <resure> Good day. What is the best way to add some node.js app as service that runs under some user with some env variables?
[18:15] <resure> (ubuntu server 12.04)
[18:15] <trism> _Tristan: for the commenting out the start on stanza or override options yet, if you rename the file, no
[18:15] <trism> _Tristan: yet = yes
[18:16] <islandmonkey> resure: Join #ubuntu-server, you might get better help there
[18:16] <bindi> hmm.. islandmonkey: can deja dup show me a gui similiar to nautilus (the file listing and names) of the files to restore?
[18:16] <resure> islandmonkey: thanks
[18:16] <bindi> trying to google some pics but unsure :)
[18:16] <_Tristan> trism: so I can just change "start on blahblah" to "#start on blahblah" ?
[18:16] <trism> _Tristan: yes although if you are on a recent ubuntu I would use Override files instead
[18:17] <islandmonkey> bindi: Doesn't look like it...
[18:17] <deadmund> I have a dual-core 2.8Ghz pentium 4 and a radeon HD 4650  (using radeon driver) but when I try to play .mp4 video that is over 720p the video plays back choppy and slow.  Any suggestions?
[18:17] <RobOakes> Does anyone know the best place to ask packaging related questions?
[18:18] <_Tristan> trism: so to do it with an override file, would I copy the original file to thingy.conf.override and then make chances?
[18:18] <_Tristan> changes, rather
[18:18] <xavier__> how can troubleshoot of connection by my usb wifi adapter?
[18:18] <wols> RobOakes: irc.debian.org has channels for apt and dpkg IIRC
[18:18] <trism> _Tristan: no just: echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/servicename.override;
[18:18] <_Tristan> oh
[18:18] <wols> deadmund: tried to use fglrx?
[18:19] <trism> _Tristan: the manual stanza overrides all other options (though override files can override any stanza)
[18:19] <RobOakes> wols: Thanks. Do you know if MOTU still has an active IRC channel?
[18:19] <deadmund> wols: I haven't.  should i?
[18:19] <deadmund> wols: I will.  hang on
[18:19] <wols> RobOakes: I don't know
[18:20] <wols> deadmund: and Xvba of course to use the videocard for acceleration
[18:20] <deadmund> wols: .... xvba  ??  Never heard of that.  What is it?
[18:20] <islandmonkey> !info xvba
[18:21] <deadmund> ...
[18:21] <freesky77> ciaoo
[18:21] <deadmund> !info Xvba
[18:21] <islandmonkey> !it | freesky77
[18:22] <deadmund> It's called xvba-va-driver
[18:22] <deadmund> works only with fglrx mmm...
[18:23] <Purian23> Okay guys, got ubuntu installed to say reboot, I rebooted only for it to come up "Missing Operating System" Any ideas?
[18:24] <deadmund> Purian23: There are a couple possiblities, you booted the wrong hdd
[18:24] <deadmund> Purian23: or you removed grub
[18:24] <deadmund> Purian23: or the whole OS really is missing! :)
[18:24] <Geox> ubuntu is really unstable thats all :P'
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> Purian23: did you install grub ok?
[18:24] <Persona24> What's the command to wipe a hard drive?
[18:25] <Purian23> ActionParsnip i'm not sure what grub is, so probably not ;(
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Persona24: you can use dban or dd
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Purian23: its part of the defaul install process. Do you use RAID?
[18:25] <Persona24> ActionParsnip, I remember it being longer than that. . . It's the command that newbies should never, ever, ever do
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Persona24: look into dban guides :), you can install it in the liveCD (assuming you have web access)
[18:26] <Purian23> I have a very bad situation, my dell xps laptop has a broken screen. I"m using an external display. I had my pc to boot from usb so I could install ubuntu onto my hd. . so when it asked to reboot
[18:26] <Purian23> I switched bios to boot from hard drive
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Purian23: boot to liveCD and run:  sudo grub-install /dev/sda    assuming /dev/sda is the Ubuntu drive
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> Purian23: or you can boot  to the installation media, then tell it to boot the installed OS (sneaky)
[18:27] <Seryth> Woah, are the Ubuntu version numbers release dats? 5.04 was released in april 2005... 12.04 was in april 2012 O.o
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> Purian23: you can then run the command from the installed OS
[18:27] <Purian23> It finnicky, bc I have to select the perfect time on boot up to hit my external display switch.
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> Seryth: yes, thats exactly it. Very logical
[18:27] <overclucker> Flux|Alt: do you have loopback devices? ls /dev/loop*
[18:28] <overclucker> ah, he's gone
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Seryth: also helps make working out when releases are EOL easier too
[18:28] <Persona24> ActionParsnip, shred -vfz -n 10 /dev/hda what would this do? haha
[18:28] <Persona24> (don't try it obviously)
[18:28] <Seryth> ActionParsnip: I see! Also, what happens when the release codenames reach z?
[18:29] <Purian23> ActionParsnip which would be easier, liive cd boot then hit the intsall ubuntu on the desktop link, or the sneaky part you mentioned that i'm unsure of lol
[18:29] <islandmonkey> Sertyh: I'll start again with A, probably
[18:29] <islandmonkey> Seryth: I'll start again with A, probably
[18:29] <Seryth> islandmonkey: Boring, it should move on to special characters :P
[18:29] <Seryth> "& yet another release"
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Purian23: I'd say boot to CD then to installed OS
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Seryth: not sure, probably go back around.  Also should I still do the  boot to liveCD and run:  sudo grub-install /dev/sda before or after that part on the install desktop
[18:32] <islandmonkey> mikubuntu: Despite the name, that's what it is.
[18:32] <mikubuntu> islandmonkey: well, MAYBE i will want ubuntu on my android, but not what i'm looking for just this minute
[18:32] <mikubuntu> islandmonkey: huh?
[18:35] <islandmonkey> mikubuntu: Well the name goes against what it is. It should be Android for Ubuntu, because as soon as a phone is docked an Android emulator pops up and you can use all your android apps from the Dash/Launcher
[18:35] <overclucker> mikubuntu: that only includes device drivers for hardware foudn on android devices. not that android os isn't also open source, it's under the apache liscense. I've seen a project that ports android os to x86 eeepc's though i haven't tried it, and it's still in development.
[18:36] <deadmund> wols: I have fglrx and xvba installed now.  I can now run glxgears with a higher framerate (not locked to monitors refresh rate anymore) but the video is not any better.  How can I confirm I'm USING xvba ??
[18:38] <mikubuntu> overclucker: that's what i want, to run my android apps on my pc -- imagine all that work we did installing 62 mb's on here for a simple teleprompter, basically a scrolling text file reader -- there's dozens of them on android, and they don[t use 62 mbs to operate.  that said, i think the pybookreader will work ok for me for now -- can we set a launcher into the menu?
[18:38] <lenochka> hello, could someone please explain why/for what machine does dig return an IP address, when a domain name is queried?
[18:39] <Purian23> deadmund i'll ask you, active may have stepped out. I'm on live usb now, so , just dbl click install ubuntu on desktop and go right? Also should I still do the  boot to liveCD and run:  sudo grub-install /dev/sda before or after that part on the install desktop
[18:39] <OerHeks> mikubuntu, try android in virtual box http://www.android-x86.org/download
[18:39] <deadmund> Purian23: If you the install you don't need to run that grub-install command
[18:40] <deadmund> Purian23: if you run* the install you...
[18:40] <deadmund> wols: you there?
[18:40] <allu3> zivester: did you get your problem solved?
[18:40] <overclucker> mikubuntu: search for "Main Menu" in applications.
[18:41] <Purian23> Okay i'll just try that, and dbl click the live cd install like on the desktop ,, thx deadmund
[18:41] <deadmund> Purian23: sounds good
[18:42] <darkelfjuggalo> ok... STILL having issues getting a working Boot USB for Ubuntu for my 64 Bit Toshiba Satelite... Thus Far, I have written the 12.04.1 desktop ISO a few times with different downloads, and MD5 checks out, but when installing it says linuxImage.bin is missing or corrupt... I've written the 12.04.1 alternate iso it failed in several steps but actually began the process...and I have netbootin 10.04... it says: No file name received
[18:43] <mikubuntu> overclucker: software center says i have Main Menu installed, but i don't find it in the menu anywhere
[18:44] <deadmund> How can I install the xmbc video player to use the xvba driver?
[18:45] <tiagoscd> Hello folks. Can you help to promote this conference from Brazilian team? http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-br/2015/detail/
[18:46] <ozpy> Hi. I need to jailbreak my ipod touch 4. Is there a way of using GreenPoi0n on linux with wine?
[18:46] <overclucker> mikubuntu: I forget how to get to it in unity, since I avoid it. you can run alacarte from the command line though
[18:48] <Ramtron> Yo, I installed cinnamon to change the look of my desktop, restarted, and nothing changed. Am I supposed to change something else?
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> Ramtron, Choosing the desktop is at the login in a dropdown from the gear.
[18:50] <Ramtron> I saw that, but I don't have a login screen
[18:50] <Ramtron> I just start automatically
[18:50] <Ramtron> Mmm, how do I enable password at startup?
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> Ramtron, You can logout and use it, it will then boot to that desktop.
[18:51] <Ramtron> That would be better, would it always be cinnamon afterwards?
[18:51] <skpl> yes
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> Ramtron, With a auto login yeah the last desktop run will be the default
[18:51] <Ramtron> Awesome, I'll try it now. Thanks!
[18:51] <Ramtron> <3
[18:54] <intrader> @HELP I am  able to have the printers apple t accept ipp://<IP_ADDRESS>:631/printers/HP_Deskjet_5400_Series but it insist on accessing the local cups (localhost:631). If from I connect to localhost:631 and open the Administration tab and chose the printer, localhost cups automatically connects to the remote cups and it is able therefore to print a test page. However other application are not able to print
[18:55] <zivester> allu3: yes... but I don't know what it was... I moved my home folder, made a new one, relogged in, cp -r'd everything (which I don't think does hidden folders/files)  and I just copied back over my .config... seems to be working
[18:56] <blz> Hello again!  My USB speakers work with pulse audio once they've been set with the 'pacmd set-default-sink' command.  However, they take 3 or 4 minutes to before showing up in `pacmd list-sinks`.  Until they show up, I can't run the first command.  Does anybody know why this might be and what I can do about it?
[18:56] <blz> I've outlined the whole thing in some detail, here: http://tinyurl.com/paproblem.  Maybe that helps a bit.
[19:01] <mikubuntu> overclucker: strange -- doesn't show up in alacarte either
[19:02] <darkelfjuggalo> Ok, I'm having trouble creating a working USB installer of Ubuntu for a 64-Bit Toshiba Satelite Laptop
[19:04] <Kartagis> !xen
[19:05] <Smackbook> did I totally forget how to use bash?  i thought i used to be able to do # ls .*  to get all the dot-files, but it expands that into a seperate ls for each file, and i get ls for all the hidden folders... what gives has it always been the case that you have to do like ls | grep ^. or some regular expression, i dont remember it being that complicated
[19:06] <genera> ls -a ?
[19:06] <genera> err. yes.
[19:07] <overclucker> mikubuntu: add pybr to one of the program groups with alacarte. type 'which pybr' in a terminal to see what the start command should be.
[19:07] <Smackbook> genera: yes meaning you have to use grep with ls?
[19:08] <mikubuntu> overclucker: /usr/local/bin/pybr
[19:08] <genera> i dont know. maybe "find". i think i had a solution too
[19:08] <genera> once upon a time
[19:08] <Smackbook> thats so much more annoying than the dos style dir *.exe, i'm suprised I never noticed this before
[19:08] <genera> heh
[19:08] <Smackbook> not that bash isn't way more powerful
[19:08] <wols> Smackbook: ls -ld .*
[19:09] <Smackbook> wols: ah nice!
[19:10] <genera> nice
[19:10] <_jmz_> any chance i could get some help geting my printer going?  im using ubuntu server.  If I install gui i can get printer going.  But I would rather not install gui.  driver is insalled just can't get it to initialize
[19:10] <mikubuntu> overclucker: dog wants out, bbl
[19:12] <infekted> good morning peepa
[19:12] <infekted> ppeps*
[19:13] <infekted> agh
[19:13] <infekted> mispell twice
[19:13] <infekted> lame
[19:14] <infekted> so is this one of those irc's where no one says a word
[19:14] <nikis> infekted: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:14] <infekted> oh so if its not help with ub untu no one says shit
[19:14] <infekted> got ya
[19:14] <nikis> infekted: Unless we can help you with anything specific? :)
[19:15] <OerHeks> This is a support channel, do you have an issue?
[19:15] <infekted> i thought that was for like #ubuntuhelp
[19:16] <lloir> anyone know anything about ubuntu + printers + servers?
[19:17] <unsobill> now question how to view all processes/commands that executed by the system real time from console ?
[19:17] <darkelfjuggalo> Anyone have ideas on creating an Ubuntu USB installer for a 64 bit laptop? I've tried Manually creating it, I've tried to Cat it in my Debian, I've tried unetbootin, and I've tried Pendriveinstaller
[19:17] <malkauns> how do i get the top panel to not show on my secondary display?
[19:18] <OerHeks> unsobill, use "top" or install htop for more functions
[19:18] <superpie> lol whats htop
[19:19] <OerHeks> lloir that is a wide range, what is your issue?
[19:19] <overclucker> superpie: install it and find out. it's very nifty.
[19:19] <Squid_Tamer> superpie: htop is like a super-powerful 'top'
[19:19] <lloir> _jmz_
[19:19] <lloir> ^
[19:19] <OerHeks> !info htop
[19:19] <Squid_Tamer> You can sort, kill processes, etc etc
[19:20] <superpie> i dont have a package manager on android
[19:20] <_jmz_> im using ubuntu server.  If I install gui i can get printer going.  But I would rather not install gui.  driver is insalled just can't get it to initialize
[19:20] <unsobill> i installed htop
[19:20] <OerHeks> Top is installed standard.
[19:20] <unsobill> i think that may do
[19:20] <lloir> OerHeks, what _jmz_ just said dude
[19:20] <javierf_> Hi! I've problems after upgrading to 12.10 with email notification in the indicator. Someone can come to ubuntu+1 to try to solve it? If I get a mail, gnome osd-notify will pop a notification, but the indicator won't change its colour and nothing appears in the menu when opening the indicator. I've been using popper notifier, but also gmail notifier or thunderbird notifications. In every case is the same issue, I've osd-notifications but no colour change
[19:20] <javierf_> o note in the indicator menu. So, OSD-notify works properly, not the indicator. Someone could help me fixing that? Thanks a lot!
[19:20] <Smackbook> htop > top
[19:20] <Smackbook> first thing I install on every system
[19:20] <superpie> i dont even like top
[19:21] <OerHeks> !12.10 | javierf_
[19:21] <overclucker> superpie: http://htop.sourceforge.net/htop-0.5.jpg hope you can click links.
[19:22] <superpie> fancy
[19:22] <unsobill> guys - heres an example - for instance i want to see which command will system execute when i mount/unmount drive from GUI interface
[19:23] <Squid_Tamer> unsobill: Someone might correct me here, but I'm not sure if most programs actually execute a command-line command to do that