[00:00] <nico045> sry
[00:00] <nico045> hate being a bother
[00:00] <maco> nico045: is this a re-install?
[00:00] <maco> nico045: like, did you guys just reinstall kubuntu today and now trying to set it back up?
[00:01] <nico045> never mind. once kmanager wored all came back. thank you so much and i hope you have a wonderful evening
[00:02] <maco> nico045: no problem. have a good night. and if youd like, you're welcome to visit #ubuntu-women as well (i realize i'm assuming that you're a straight couple, pardon if this is not the case, but same sex marriage is still illegal in most places around here)
[00:02] <nico045> u right and thanks! night!
[00:23] <BellinXFelon> i keep getting an error message saying The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork! when i try to add or remove programs
[00:28] <Zorael> !jp | Zorael
[00:28] <Dragnslcr> BellinXFelon- it should be safe to ignore that
[00:43] <maco> BellinXFelon: thats just packagekit being buggy. know how to use apt-get?
[00:44] <BellinXFelon> maco: its me your talking to me on the kopete
[00:45] <maco> oh
[00:45] <maco> i was just thinking "wow, two people asking that right now?"
[01:24] <silentContender> I'm having trouble with Amarok 2.1.1  It keeps resetting my iPod after transfers.  How do I fix that?
[01:55] <plagueboi> if i want to install Compiz, i just type "sudo aptitude install Compiz" right? or is it named someting else?
[01:56] <Dragnslcr> !info compiz
[01:57] <Dragnslcr> Keep in mind that KDE4 has its own compositing, though, and compiz doesn't always get along with KDE
[02:09] <tekstacy> 'lo all.
[02:10] <tekstacy> How do I find out what version of Kubuntu I am using? And what kernel version?
[02:10] <dbc254> running konqueror as web browser. When a url is encountered in email. Konqueror looks for file i.e./var/etc.  what do I have misconfigured?
[02:11] <Dragnslcr> tekstacy- from Konsole, "lsb_release -a" will show you the Ubuntu version
[02:11] <dbc254> shouldn't a link go straight to the web instead of searching for a file??
[02:11] <tekstacy> Dragnslcr, thanks
[02:11] <Dragnslcr> tekstacy- "uname -a" will show you the kernel version
[02:13] <tekstacy> Dragnslcr, thanks again.   I put Kubuntu 6.06 on here, way back, and forgot what I upgraded to.
[02:14] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[02:15] <Dragnslcr> Probably not even worth upgrading from there, be easier to just do a clean install
[02:16] <tekstacy> Well, yeah, I'm just lazy I guess.
[02:17] <veck> what does kttsd failed mean ?
[02:18] <Dragnslcr> I think a clean install would be the lazy way
[02:18] <tekstacy> Dragnslcr, does "lsb_release -a" work with any distro?
[02:18] <Dragnslcr> veck- I assume it has something to do with text-to-speech
[02:19] <tekstacy> Yeah, it would be, but I never backed anything up.
[02:19] <veck> Dragnslcr: how can i diagnose and remove pkg?
[02:19] <Dragnslcr> tekstacy- I think so, but don't quote me on it. LSB is Linux Standard Base, so I would expect any major distro to have it
[02:20] <tekstacy> Cool.
[02:20] <veck> Dragnslcr: you are correct though I am legally blind and tried to install something to read for me
[02:20] <Dragnslcr> veck- I haven't used it, so I can't really help much. I just know what TTS stands for
[02:21] <veck> Dragnslcr: thnx allot i should be able to track it down from here
[02:21] <Dragnslcr> No problem
[02:36] <veck> hOW CAN i FIND THE PACKAGE THAT IS COUSING A kttsd ERROR ON MY PC?
[02:36] <Fanfare> veck one sec
[02:37] <Fanfare> veck: what kind of error?
[02:37] <veck> Sry I am legallyblind and cannot see my screen so well so plz bear with me
[02:37] <Fanfare> veck: no problem
[02:37] <veck> Fanfare: text to speach
[02:38] <Fanfare> veck: is kttsd installed?
[02:39] <veck> Fanfare: well I tried to type that into synaptic but noyhing comes up
[02:39] <veck> Fanfare: also checked installed programs from synaptic but nothing
[02:39] <lordars> hola
[02:39] <veck> ola
[02:40] <Fanfare> veck: can u see a plain shell? try          sudo apt-get install kttsd
[02:40] <lordars> este irc es en español
[02:40] <lordars> ??
[02:40] <Fanfare> !es
[02:41] <lordars> y si no se ingles?
[02:41] <lordars> help
[02:41] <lordars> i no speak inglis
[02:43] <Fanfare> veck: did sudo apt-get install kttsd work?
[02:44] <veck> Fanfare: 1 sec
[02:45] <Dragnslcr> !es | lordars
[02:46] <veck> Fanfare: http://pastebin.com/m96e2218
[02:46] <Fanfare> veck: btw. what language do u need it to talk?
[02:46] <veck> Fanfare: english
[02:46] <lordars> tanks
[02:46] <veck> Fanfare: AS of A florida
[02:47] <Fanfare> veck: try                     sudo apt-get update                   , followed by                       sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:47] <veck> Fanfare: dang I cannot type to sve my life
[02:48] <Fanfare> veck: ok, english should be ok, i have kttsd talking in german...
[02:50] <veck> Fanfare: running the latest version of kubuntu karmic
[02:50] <veck> Fanfare: ok updated and upgraded
[02:51] <veck> Fanfare: now i guesss i just wait to see if itfixes the error that keeps popping up
[02:52] <Fanfare> now, lets see if we've got the right version of     kdebase-runtime     which must be  >= 4:4.2.98
[02:52] <Fanfare> veck: check version with      dpkg-query -l kdebase-runtime
[02:56] <Fanfare> veck: i have jaunty so my versions are lower... 4.2.96
[02:57] <veck> Fanfare: http://pastebin.com/m69b5d2af
[02:58] <veck> Fanfare: yeah I like to see all the newest stuff
[02:58] <veck> Fanfare: lol thats funny since I cannot see!
[02:59] <Fanfare> veck: that now looks good to me ... try again            sudo apt-get install kttsd
[02:59] <veck> Fanfare: ok its installing any tips to using it?
[03:00] <veck> Fanfare: do i have to turn it on or what?
[03:00] <el> Hi, I can't seem to get my wlan to work in any debian-based distribution. I tried Debian Squeeze, Debian Sid and now the latest Kubuntu Karmic.
[03:01] <Fanfare> veck: kttsd is only a tts wrapper, so u need a tts system working! kttsd has a good manual follow instrucktions there!
[03:01] <el> The card is powered by ath9k driver and I can't get it to connect no matter if I try to use the Network Management from the taskbar or if I write my own /etc/network/interfaces
[03:02] <Fanfare> veck also check out www.simon-listens.org to control your pc with speech
[03:02] <BluesKaj> el, maybe wicd network manger will work for you
[03:02] <BluesKaj> maerr nager
[03:02] <BluesKaj> <--getting tired
[03:03] <BluesKaj> !wicd
[03:03] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[03:05] <veck> thnx for all the help Love my LINUX!
[03:05] <PLANETARY> ok my turn
[03:06] <Fanfare> veck: love to help! Have fun!
[03:06] <veck> OPEN SOURCE FOR EVERYONE
[03:06] <el_> Whoa. I did't even need wicd.
[03:07] <PLANETARY> how do i get electricsheep to work. it doesnt chow up in xscreensaver.
[03:07] <el_>  But trying to install wicd removed network-manager. And now it works
[03:07] <el_> Yay ;)
[03:07] <Fanfare> veckdid u find info to install a tts-system in kttsd manual?
[03:08] <el_> Thanks for the awesome tip BluesKaj.
[03:08] <el_> I've been trying to solve this all day, ... and the solution was so simple ;)
[03:09] <PLANETARY> this is a thread i made
[03:09] <PLANETARY> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1211751
[03:10] <PLANETARY> so electricspeep in kubuntu with xscreensaver
[03:11] <BluesKaj> el_, you are welcome , glad you were able to solve your problem :)
[03:14] <afeijo> I have kernel <IP_ADDRESS>, but uname -r returns .11 old one, why? how to fix it?
[03:16] <Fanfare> afeijo: dpkg-query -l *2.6.28* sure u have all u need?
[03:17] <afeijo> Fanfare: what do I need to look into that command result?
[03:19] <Fanfare> afeijo: linux-headers-2.6.28-13-generic linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-13-generic
[03:19] <Fanfare> and have grub boot into that one, not any previous
[03:21] <afeijo> Fanfare: dpkg returned 4 lines pointing to 2.6.28-13.45, 3 have the words you mentioned
[03:21] <afeijo> I will locate grup file
[03:22] <afeijo> damn, grub is pointing to .11 not .13
[03:22] <afeijo> I have to edit it? I dont like to mess with grub :)
[03:22] <login_> oi
[03:23] <Fanfare> afeijo: hm, each kernelupdate should automagicaly update grub config, so if u never changed grub then that should not be the problem...
[03:23] <afeijo> Fanfare: how to force the kernel update?
[03:24] <Fanfare> afeijo: sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:25] <Fanfare> last one upgrades also kernels
[03:25] <afeijo> 0 packages :(
[03:25] <afeijo> what about sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.xx-yy-generic
[03:26] <starcraftman> quick question, is there a means to get the functionality in KDE so that when I drag window to edge of a screen it moves to adjacent virtual desktop? I had this in GNOME and haven't been able to locate it in the desktop effects or window behaviour menu.
[03:26] <b14ck> can anyone tell me how to install man pages for c commands? man fseek has no entry, as does man fopen, etc.
[03:26] <Dragnslcr> afeijo- take a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:26] <afeijo> I try that one, it says I already have 28.13
[03:26] <afeijo> Dragnslcr: I did
[03:26] <afeijo> Dragnslcr: no mention to 28.13 there
[03:26] <afeijo> and if I apt-get remove 28.13 and install again?
[03:27] <Fanfare> afeijo: but leave the running kernel :-)
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> It's not that hard to add the option
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> Basically just copy/paste a previous one
[03:29] <Fanfare> afeijo: is 28.13 in /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[03:29] <afeijo> Fanfare: no, it is now I added
[03:31] <afeijo> time to reboot... wish me luck
[03:31] <Fanfare> update-grub ...
[03:31] <Fanfare> afeijo: good luck
[03:32] <afeijo> update-grub? runing
[03:32] <afeijo> cool
[03:33] <Fanfare> as sudo i guess    sudo update-grub   that should update grub config to latest installed kernel... i think...
[03:33] <afeijo> it did changed some stuff :)
[03:34] <Fanfare> ok... sounds good? does it look good?
[03:35] <afeijo> it does, said that the new kernel was found
[03:35] <biagidp> I just did apt-get upgrade in kubuntu 9.04 and sound stopped working, anyone know what's going on?
[03:35] <afeijo> it gave an error about /dev/sda8, I dont have that partition anymore, but I cant find sda8 on the menu.lst, funny
[03:36] <afeijo> brb
[03:36] <Fanfare> afeijo: gues thats somewhere in a map or device file in /boot/ dir
[03:40] <afeijo> it worked! thanks guys
[03:40] <Fanfare> afeijo: welcome to new kernel?
[03:40] <afeijo> yep
[03:40] <afeijo> now vbox is running
[03:42] <afeijo> oops, time to note those tips in my tips file :)
[03:46] <plagueboi> does any1 know the name of the swedish ubuntu channel?
[03:46] <PLANETARY> ok so does anyone know why when i watch a video file on any player reguardless of view size it goes black. I have compiz on and and my menu open effect goes up to a black screen after a minute of watching. if i move the mouse it goes back to teh show. Its not my screensaver
[03:46] <Fanfare> !<countrycode>
[03:47] <Fanfare> !sw
[03:48] <plagueboi> PLANETARY: i ahd the same trubble awile back. but it went good after i had installed codecs and my new drivers.
[03:48] <maco> !se
[03:48] <plagueboi> ubottu: ty
[03:49] <starcraftman> So, anyone on know answer to my KDE dragging windows across screen edges to other desktops question?
[03:49] <Fanfare> starcraftman: could u requestion?
[03:50] <PLANETARY> plagueboi: what do you mean? I have teh kubuntu restricted extras and have my restricted drivers
[03:51] <starcraftman> Fanfare: quick question, is there a means to get the functionality in KDE so that when I drag window to edge of a screen it moves to adjacent virtual desktop? I had this in GNOME and haven't been able to locate it in the desktop effects or window behaviour menu.
[03:51] <starcraftman> Fanfare: Requestion isn't a word btw :p
[03:51] <Fanfare> starcraftman: sry no native en :-)
[03:54] <plagueboi> PLANETARY: ehm.. okey, well i didnt find a right away direction" to fix it. i jsut tryed to update everything about vlc/totem etc. and drivers and codec pacates. and after a reboot 1-2h later it worked.
[03:56] <alinuxguy> hi.
[03:56] <alinuxguy> ne1 know of a dbus kwallet bash howto anywhere? I cant find it on google.
[03:57] <starcraftman> Fanfare: So no ideas? You know what I mean yes? It's very useful for just going one screen left or right with a window.
[03:58] <Fanfare> starcraftman: i know i've seen it somewhen... It works here on my desktop, but cant find it again...
[03:58] <Fanfare> starcraftman: still looking...
[03:59] <Fanfare> starcraftman: what is adjacent?
[04:01] <Fanfare> starcraftman: ok, got it...
[04:01] <starcraftman> Fanfare: Adjacent means next to, basically I just want to be able to drag a window over the edge onto a different virtual desktop (I have 6).
[04:01] <Fanfare> starcraftman: rightclick on a titlebar
[04:02] <Fanfare> windowbehaviour
[04:03] <Fanfare> starcraftman: select (4th) activation
[04:04] <PLANETARY> ok did an update with the update manager and i will reboot to see if it helps
[04:04] <Fanfare> starcraftman: select something like "automagicaly navigate to opposite side"
[04:09] <starcraftman> Fanfare: When you say 4th activation, you mean tab on the left? That says focus. I see the "traverse windows on all desktop" checkbox but when clicked, it doesn't let me do the dragging across desktops. I just checked and it has to do with Alt + Tab selection, meaning it lets you either alt + tab by the desktop your on or all of them.
[04:10] <starcraftman> Fanfare: Any other ideas?
[04:10] <Fanfare> starcraftman: i'll do a screeny
[04:10] <starcraftman> Fanfare: K
[04:11] <PLANETARY> yay the update did it!
[04:11] <Fanfare> !imageshag
[04:12] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[04:12] <PLANETARY> so now electricsheep, any takers?
[04:13] <starcraftman> Fanfare:  Hmm, the image you put didn't work. The flood bot refused it.
[04:15] <Fanfare> starcraftman: that wasnt me:-) i was just looking for a service ...
[04:15] <Fanfare> starcraftman: here it is http://imagebin.org/56957
[04:18] <starcraftman> Fanfare: Ya, I have that option enabled already, it doesn't seem to be one I want, still not able to drag across screens. At top of section, says window switching, I think mostly has to do with the alt + tab functionality.
[04:19] <Fanfare> starcraftman: i tested. This option allowes me to move a window from one virt. desktop to the other...
[04:20] <starcraftman> Fanfare:  Well that's peculiar!
[04:20] <starcraftman> Fanfare: And you can just drag em left and right as you want?
[04:20] <Fanfare> yes
[04:24] <Fanfare> starcraftman: it works left/right, up/down, with and without compositioning
[04:27] <starcraftman> Fanfare: Hmmm, that's puzzling, I just took off the compositing effects too and it still no work. That's really weird!
[04:29] <starcraftman> Fanfare: You using standard 9.04 with KDE 4.2? I can't really think of any change that would stop me....
[04:29] <starcraftman> Fanfare: I'll book up the live CD and see if that lets me do this.
[04:30] <plagueboi> PLANETARY: did it work? :P
[04:34] <Fanfare> starcraftman: i use kde 4.2.96 (kde 4.3 RC2) on jounty
[04:36] <amp> hello
[04:37] <starcraftman> hello, need a hand?
[04:37] <omniuni> hi
[04:37] <amp> i need a hand
[04:37] <amp> u see i have linux mce but i cant make myth tv work
[04:38] <eatThisAndDie> guys, is it normal that my xorg.conf is empty?
[04:38] <eatThisAndDie> I'm on jaunty
[04:39] <beyondcr> i think they tryed to make it as little as possiable if not compleatly remove it
[04:39] <amp> thats a question can i like change from gutsy to jaunty or karmic
[04:39] <beyondcr> if everything is working for you then yes  its fine
[04:40] <starcraftman> Fanfare: I'm positive now you've some other option enabled to make your windows move from one to another. I just booted a clean CD and when I enabled the
[04:40] <eatThisAndDie> well... it WORKS, but I just wanna make sure my graphic drivers are loaded right.
[04:40] <starcraftman> Fanfare:  option still no luck. Must be something I'm missing.
[04:41] <beyondcr> amp you can change to 9.10
[04:41] <beyondcr> i think if you run update-manager -d you can find everything you need to update
[04:41] <eatThisAndDie> kubuntu 8.10 on an older machine had better graphics than 9.04 on a new one. And I'm gettin really annoyed with the crappyness of it. Even without the effects.
[04:42] <beyondcr> what graphics card do you have
[04:42] <beyondcr> a ati or nvidia?
[04:42] <amp> back sorry
[04:42] <beyondcr> if you have a via then it is a little buggy
[04:43] <eatThisAndDie> intel on a laptop
[04:43] <amp> i have 9.04 but i dont know if i can run mce on it
[04:43] <eatThisAndDie> compaq, and so was my older one.
[04:43] <beyondcr> you can check in the repo to see if there is a driver update
[04:44] <eatThisAndDie> my audio wasn't working til i manually added an intel module to modprobe.d/alsa.conf so i'm not so sure, maybe there's a problem with the graphics kernel module / driver
[04:44] <amp> i have a athlon 64 4000+,512mb ddr2 geforce6100
[04:44] <Dragnslcr> eatThisAndDie- there are known problems with the Intel drivers for 9.04
[04:45] <eatThisAndDie> hah. ok.
[04:45] <omniuni> Dragnslcr: they released an update, performance should be fine now
[04:45] <beyondcr> amp is this what you are looking for http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-moovida-media-center-on-ubuntu-9.04
[04:45] <amp> and an avermedia m150-d and a wintv-hvr1600
[04:45] <eatThisAndDie> in the repos? I've been aptitude safe-upgrade'ing for a month now and I don't see one.
[04:45] <amp> nope i have the mce kubuntu distro
[04:45] <amp> i think its like 704
[04:46] <eatThisAndDie> Dragnslcr: sorry for the silly question, but where do I get the updates?
[04:46] <PLANETARY> yes it did work. videos play fine!
[04:46] <Fanfare> starcraftman: argh:found
[04:46] <beyondcr> sorry i never played with mce so i cant tell you
[04:46] <Fanfare> starcraftman: systemsettings
[04:47] <PLANETARY> plagueboi: it does work. videos play fine!
[04:48] <amp> yeah it looks sweet but
[04:48] <plagueboi> PLANETARY: great :)
[04:48] <Fanfare> starcraftman: desktop / desktopcorners - lower part
[04:48] <amp> i cant get live tv here on myth
[04:48] <PLANETARY> thanks for teh tip!
[04:49] <amp> i even made the blackbird driver and got video from the mplayer but nothing from myth it just goes black
[04:50] <amp> anyways thanks for listening i needed to ehale befor i throw the pc out the window
[04:50] <amp> : >
[04:50] <beyondcr> lol
[04:51] <starcraftman> Fanfare: Hmmm, can you provide screenshot on what exact option you mean on the screen edges window? I don't understand what you mean lower part...
[04:51] <Fanfare> starcraftman: k
[04:52] <starcraftman> Fanfare: Did set grid to a screen edge, that's nice and lets me drag windows to any on the grid. But a bit of a nuissance when just moving one window to desktop one space away.
[04:55] <Fanfare> starcraftman: http://imagebin.org/56961
[04:59] <Fanfare> got to go to bed, bb
[04:59] <starcraftman> Fanfare: Well there's definitely a problem, you've 5 tabs on the left white pane, and I've only 4. I'm missing the one between "virtual/multiple desktops" and "screensave"
[04:59] <starcraftman> k, night Fanfare. I think I'll post on the forums, maybe somoene can help me there.
[04:59] <Fanfare> starcraftman: good luck...
[05:03] <PLANETARY> so electricsheep, how can i make it work
[05:03] <PLANETARY> it doesn't show up in xscreensaver
[05:10] <plagueboi> how do i get the mounted volumes to not show up on my desktop?
[05:13] <PLANETARY> like a widget
[05:14] <PLANETARY> unlock widgets and click close maybe
[05:14] <plagueboi> nah, i mean to never show up on my desktop.
[05:15] <PLANETARY> i dont know. i dont have it
[05:16] <plagueboi> if you put a usb men stick in and the mount image doesent start up on your desktop?
[05:23] <PLANETARY> no ot only comes up in the divice plug in button
[05:24] <PLANETARY> i have 9.04
[05:28] <plagueboi> ubuntu 9.04 jaunty?
[05:29] <darthanubis> PLANETARY: just remove the hotplug widget
[05:29] <darthanubis> do people even read about the distro they install and use anymore?
[05:30] <darthanubis> right click it and remove it
[05:30] <PLANETARY> oh i like that thank i was talking to plagueboi
[05:30] <darthanubis> PLANETARY: you were "talking" to the CHANNEL
[05:31] <PLANETARY> oh ok
[05:31] <darthanubis> until you privately message then you'll only be "talking" to whoever
[05:31] <plagueboi> :P
[05:31] <PLANETARY> oh i figured it out
[05:32] <PLANETARY> ok so
[05:32] <PLANETARY> my dolphin doesn't have a window boarder
[05:33] <PLANETARY> when i open it its maximized and has not window boarer
[05:36] <linuxlover> i am a photographer. i like to share my photo which can be used as wallpaper. may anybody please tell me, how to do that?
[05:37] <darthanubis> linuxlover: read up on what you intend on doing. Soliting advice from IRC is not thebest method
[05:38] <darthanubis> you can upload your photos ANYWHERE to share as wallpaper
[05:39] <linuxlover> thank you darthanubis. i want to share it with the kde team, so that anybody can download the wallpaper. may you please help?
[05:39] <darthanubis> may you please follow advice already given?
[05:39] <darthanubis> One .5 google search for KDE wallpaper will have you where you need to be
[05:40] <plagueboi> darthanubis: www.fuskbugg.se
[05:40] <darthanubis> please don't ask for others to do what you can for yourself, it reeks of laziness
[05:40] <darthanubis> kdelooks.org
[05:41] <darthanubis> I guess that was asking too much
[05:42] <PLANETARY> ok well my going to black screen is back onlyy it does it when watching youtube
[05:42] <plagueboi> if you guys want to upload pics as wallpapers and stuff ez. http://fuskbugg.se/fuskbugg/?p=upload
[05:44] <darthanubis> plagueboi: fail
[05:45] <PLANETARY> so when i watch youtube my screen goes black if i dont move the mouse for a minute. whats up with that
[05:46] <darthanubis> it's called screen saver sheesh
[05:51] <PLANETARY> i thought i turned it off
[05:52] <plagueboi> PLANETARY: turned what off?
[05:53] <PLANETARY> xscreensaver and k screensaver
[05:53] <PLANETARY> i have xscreensaver as default and have it disabled
[05:56] <plagueboi> PLANETARY: k, cound be your flash player then
[05:57] <PLANETARY> ok it does it always now. I only have this window open and it does it. though it doesnt do it when i watch a video file fullscreeen
[05:57] <beyondcr> is there anything better then konqueror?
[05:58] <plagueboi> beyondcr: beer? lol
[05:58] <beyondcr> i mean that would take its place
[05:59] <PLANETARY> i  like firefox  and dolphin as a file manager
[05:59] <beyondcr> as a file manager
[05:59] <plagueboi> i mean in general
[06:00] <beyondcr> that is true but dont mix the both it could be dangerous
[06:01] <PLANETARY> me? firefox for web and use dolphin as filemanager?
[06:01] <beyondcr> im still geting use to linux been about a week off of windows and i dont think im going back
[06:10] <PLANETARY> ok so i guess kscreensaver is still on somehow
[06:12] <plagueboi> beyondcr: i know how you feel, love linux <3
[06:13] <Captain_Haddock> beyondcr: Set up Konqueror as you like and save it as the default profile.. That should ease some of its default usability issues.
[06:14]  * Captain_Haddock dislikes Dolphin muchly.
[06:15] <DaskreeCH> Why?
[06:15] <PLANETARY> ok so i reapplied kscreensaver to not start automatically. and the problem stopped. so how do i get it to not some back on?
[06:17] <plagueboi> PLANETARY: remove it?
[06:18] <PLANETARY> i just want kscreensaver to not come on. i want only xscreensaver to do the screensaver work. xscreensaver i have to start at startuo
[06:18] <PLANETARY> start up
[06:20] <plagueboi> PLANETARY: sudo aptitute autoremove kscreensaver
[06:20] <plagueboi> PLANETARY: dunoo if it works
[06:21] <PLANETARY> ok cool but am i going to need this to get electric sheep to work. I want it to wotk with xscreensaver but i am having problems with that
[06:22] <PLANETARY> ok ill try it later. im going to bed. thanks for help
[06:24] <vishal> hi, how can I check the data transfer taking place on my usb modem and keep a track of the total transfered data ? is ther a program I can use ?
[06:50] <eMyller|busy> why do my f***ing eth0 says "no carrier"?! please some help me :|
[06:54] <Mamarok> eMyller|busy: watch your language!
[06:54] <eMyller|busy> Mamarok: i just said "***" :|
[06:54] <eMyller|busy> i'm on it for hours
[06:54] <Captain_Haddock> well, don't.
[06:54] <Mamarok> eMyller|busy: and you shouldn't, this is a familiy friendly channel
[06:55] <eMyller|busy> really sorry
[06:55] <Mamarok> eMyller|busy: does ping work?
[06:55] <eMyller|busy> Mamarok: ping to where?
[06:55]  * eMyller|busy said that in a channel for the first time :|
[06:55] <Mamarok> eMyller|busy: well, whatever website you like, try google.com
[06:56] <eMyller|busy> Mamarok: oh, i'm connect to ppp0
[06:56] <eMyller|busy> it's *this* pc
[06:56] <Mamarok> well, then eth0 can hardly work, it is the LAN port :)
[06:56] <Mamarok> and you use dial in
[06:57] <eMyller|busy> Mamarok: but it worked before
[06:57] <eMyller|busy> i'm connect to 3g
[06:57] <eMyller|busy> *ed
[06:57] <Mamarok> eMyller|busy: your LAN cable ok?
[06:58] <Captain_Haddock> eMyller|busy: perhaps you could pastebin your "ifconfig"
[06:59] <eMyller|busy> sure, sec
[06:59] <Mamarok> Captain_Haddock: thx, I'm not fully awake yet :(
[06:59] <Captain_Haddock> Good morning :)
[07:00] <eMyller|busy> hehe
[07:00] <eMyller|busy> thanks in advance, guys :_)
[07:00] <eMyller|busy> Mamarok, Captain_Haddock: http://dpaste.com/70754/plain
[07:01] <eMyller|busy> i got this on ##linux:
[07:01] <eMyller|busy> [02:59:21] <PurpleSmurf> join you distro chann and find out how to restart rc.inet*
[07:04] <eMyller|busy> any thoughts?
[07:05] <Captain_Haddock> eMyller|busy: can you also please paste the result of "ip route" ?
[07:06] <Captain_Haddock> and details which cables / other connections you have going out ...
[07:06] <Captain_Haddock> detail*
[07:06] <eMyller|busy> all i want is connect my pc with another one with a crossover cable
[07:06] <eMyller|busy> but my eth0 is not even running :|
[07:07] <eMyller|busy> sec, will paste
[07:07] <plagueboi> eMyller|busy: are you running 3g?
[07:07] <eMyller|busy> <IP_ADDRESS> dev ppp0  proto kernel  scope link  src <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:07] <eMyller|busy> <IP_ADDRESS>/16 dev ppp0  scope link  metric 1000
[07:07] <eMyller|busy> default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev ppp0  proto static
[07:07] <Captain_Haddock> plagueboi: he mentioned that he is
[07:08] <Mamarok> eMyller|busy: please use pastebin
[07:09] <eMyller|busy> Mamarok: sorry, that was just 3 lines :)
[07:10] <Captain_Haddock> eMyller|busy: so you're connecting to the net via 3G and a dialler. You are connecting to another PC directly via Ethernet and eventually want to share your 3G Internet connection with both PCs. Is that right?
[07:10] <Mamarok> eMyller|busy: you must configure both PCs to see each other
[07:10] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: also
[07:11] <Captain_Haddock> eMyller|busy: also, what?
[07:11] <Mamarok> Captain_Haddock: he meant "that too"
[07:11] <Captain_Haddock> oh
[07:12] <eMyller|busy> ty, Mamarok
[07:12] <eMyller|busy> i need to use gobby with the other pc
[07:12] <eMyller|busy> and share some other dev tools
[07:12] <eMyller|busy> collaborative
[07:12] <Captain_Haddock> eMyller|busy: do you have a LAN cable inserted into both PCs? Are the Ethernet port lights on?
[07:13] <plagueboi_> eMyller|busy: are you using firestarter?
[07:13] <plagueboi_> eMyller|busy: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php
[07:13] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: our ports don't have lights
[07:14] <eMyller|busy> bwah :(
[07:14] <Captain_Haddock> eMyller|busy: righto... Have you tried giving your ethernet interfaces IP addresses?
[07:14] <Mamarok> strange, eth ports normally always have lights, right beneath the connector
[07:15] <eMyller|busy> Mamarok: we're on laptops, and rarely i see laptops with lights
[07:15] <Mamarok> eMyller|busy: both my laptops have a light on the eth0 port
[07:15] <Mamarok> one Lenovo, once Acer
[07:16] <eMyller|busy> one AmazonPC, other Itautec here
[07:17] <eMyller|busy> oh, well.
[07:18] <eMyller|busy> plagueboi_: i'm reading that, thansk
[07:18] <plagueboi_> eMyller|busy: sudo apt-get install firestarter -> and then read -> http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php
[07:18] <plagueboi_> eMyller|busy: kk, np
[07:18] <plagueboi_> google is your friend :P
[07:19] <eMyller|busy> i'm already with fs installed
[07:22] <eMyller|busy> great. i got eth0 running, but it's with 'no carrier' again
[07:23] <plagueboi> eMyller|busy: :(
[07:23] <eMyller|busy> i'm scared with this thing
[07:25] <harolddong> I'm trying to get the get_flash_videos rtmpdump deb package working but when I try to get a brightcove video it say Data::AMF pacakge is needed.  DOes anybody what that actual package might be in the ubuntu repos?  or if there even is an ubuntu package for it
[07:25] <eMyller|busy> plagueboi, Mamarok, Captain_Haddock: ifconfig says it's up again. knetworkmanager doesn't.
[07:25] <eMyller|busy> aw.
[07:26] <Captain_Haddock> "eMyller|busy: righto... Have you tried giving your ethernet interfaces IP addresses?"
[07:27] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: how would i give it addresses?
[07:27] <eMyller|busy> i created a connection in knetworkmanager but it doesn't connect
[07:27] <eMyller|busy> may a networking restart help here?
[07:28] <eMyller|busy> ...no.
[07:28] <eMyller|busy> i think that all my problem is the knetworkmanager.
[07:28] <Captain_Haddock> eMyller|busy: if you don't give your eth0 and IP address, it cannot connect to anything else. There should be an option in network manager to add a static IP.
[07:28] <Captain_Haddock> do this for both PCs.
[07:29] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: there *is*, i added it and tried to connect to the connection i created
[07:29] <eMyller|busy> but it doesn't
[07:29] <Captain_Haddock> eMyller|busy: well, what did you give it?
[07:30] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: <IP_ADDRESS>, mask <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:30] <eMyller|busy> my eth0 is up, isn't it? http://dpaste.com/70761/
[07:30] <Captain_Haddock> and did you save it or whatever (I don't have network manager here, so I am unfamiliar with the GUI)
[07:31] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: yes
[07:31] <Captain_Haddock> if it's up, then it should have an IP address associated with it.
[07:31] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: can i add it without the gui?
[07:31] <Captain_Haddock> let's try
[07:31] <eMyller|busy> i'm about to throw this thing away
[07:32] <eMyller|busy> i hate it, but i must cuz i'm on 3g :|
[07:32] <Captain_Haddock> type ifconfig eth0 down
[07:32] <eMyller|busy> ...done
[07:32] <eMyller|busy> something with /etc/network/interfaces?
[07:33] <Captain_Haddock> ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> up
[07:33] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: done, i got response! :D
[07:33] <eMyller|busy> with ping
[07:33] <Captain_Haddock> ifconfig
[07:34] <Captain_Haddock> cool
[07:34] <Captain_Haddock> make sure both PCs have their IP addresses via ifconfig
[07:34] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: http://dpaste.com/70762/
[07:34] <Captain_Haddock> nice :)
[07:35] <Captain_Haddock> and the other PC?
[07:35] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: testing there
[07:37] <plagueboi> eMyller|busy: got it working? went to make coffe.
[07:37] <eMyller|busy> still not
[07:38] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: did exactly the same thing, but with <IP_ADDRESS> and got no response :|
[07:38] <eMyller|busy> may i restart it?
[07:39] <plagueboi> eMyller|busy: im sitting and reading up on "http://vidner.net/martin/software/cnetworkmanager/". but try, you never know...
[07:40] <eMyller|busy> plagueboi: ty
[07:42] <plagueboi> eMyller|busy: is this the exact problem you have? (direct quote) " Once again, test of your clients can ping their linux box. If they can set their DNS and default gateway to use the linux box. Currently you have a DSL router thats probably giving out DHCP ip's. "
[07:43] <eMyller|busy> plagueboi: i'm able to ping my box
[07:43] <eMyller|busy> but i'm trying to ping the other box *in* the other box but nothing
[07:43] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: i just put eth0 down there then set it up with another ip.
[07:44] <eMyller|busy> but it misteriously loses the ip in some seconds
[07:44]  * eMyller|busy is afraid, there might be ghosts her
[07:44] <eMyller|busy> *here
[07:45] <plagueboi> eMyller|busy: do you have IP forwarding is enabled?
[07:47] <eMyller|busy> plagueboi: i dont think so
[07:47] <eMyller|busy> ok, both two boxes are pinging
[07:47] <eMyller|busy> but i can't ping each other
[07:47] <eMyller|busy> why? :(
[07:50] <plagueboi> eMyller|busy:  read this, it might help dunno. :( " http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?s=bcc1eb8faa2f9882edb9ca5cd684a5ee&p=2377225&postcount=14 "
[07:50]  * eMyller|busy is reading
[07:52] <eMyller|busy> "From <IP_ADDRESS> icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable" :(
[07:54] <eMyller|busy> plagueboi: that is for 3g sharing
[07:54] <eMyller|busy> thanks, i'll need that too
[07:54] <eMyller|busy> but for now the pcs must at least see each other
[07:55] <plagueboi> eMyller|busy: np. will try to google around some more :P
[07:55] <eMyller|busy> hehe, thanks plagueboi :)
[07:56] <plagueboi> eMyller|busy: np, im quite new to ubuntu, but ppl help me and i just try to help ppl back :)
[07:58] <jemand> Hi, after "normal updating" the Firefox is not realy functioning anymore...
[07:58] <jemand> any ideas?
[07:59] <jemand> Updating via KpackageKit
[07:59] <plagueboi> jemand: have you updated to the new firefox?
[08:00] <plagueboi> eMyller|busy: sudo nmap -PR -sP <IP_ADDRESS>/24 | It usually finds all of the network devices.
[08:01] <eMyller|busy> weird, there is no 'nmap' here :P
[08:02] <jemand> just the normal Update to 3.0.12
[08:02] <jemand> includes in KUBUNTU
[08:02] <eMyller|busy> may i set a gateway here?
[08:03] <plagueboi> jemand: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/upgrade.html
[08:03] <jemand> OK
[08:03] <jemand> I thought I stay to the provided KUBUNTU Update
[08:04] <jemand> I'll try the new 3.5
[08:04] <jemand> now
[08:04] <plagueboi> jemand: the new firefox is faster =)
[08:04] <plagueboi> eMyller|busy: sec :P
[08:04] <jemand> I know, it's running in VitualBox under WinXP
[08:04] <jemand> here
[08:05] <eMyller|busy> jemand: you can install firefox3.5 in /opt
[08:05] <Captain_Haddock> eMyller|busy: so you can't assign the IP address to PC #2?
[08:05] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: it's assigned
[08:05] <Captain_Haddock> jemand: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[08:05] <Captain_Haddock> jemand:  both versions can coexist
[08:06] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: isn't firefox-3.5 package still shiretoko?
[08:06] <Captain_Haddock> eMyller|busy: and listed in ifconfig? So both PCs have IP addresses?
[08:06] <Captain_Haddock> eMyller|busy: yes, but works fine.
[08:06] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: yes. but they dont see each other
[08:06] <Captain_Haddock> can you please pastebin both the ifconfigs?
[08:07] <Captain_Haddock> also, if you have firestarter installed on either PC.. remove it for now.
[08:07] <Captain_Haddock> (or disable it)
[08:07] <eMyller|busy> hmm.. it's installed
[08:07] <eMyller|busy> will uninstall for test
[08:08] <jemand> I'v an AMD64
[08:09] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: the pcc #02 is http://dpaste.com/70772; my one is 70773
[08:09] <eMyller|busy> *pc
[08:10] <Captain_Haddock> eMyller|busy: and you've removed firestarter from both PCs?
[08:11] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: yup
[08:11] <Captain_Haddock> try pinging again
[08:11] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: each other?
[08:12] <Captain_Haddock> yes
[08:13] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: destination host unreachable
[08:13] <eMyller|busy> both
[08:14] <Captain_Haddock> this is with " ping <IP_ADDRESS> "?
[08:15] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: my box, yes
[08:16] <Captain_Haddock> eMyller|busy: if the IP addresses are set, the interfaces are up and there are no firewalls blocking pings, it probably points to cable fault. Do you have a spare crossover?
[08:17] <eMyller|busy> no :|
[08:21] <plagueboi> eMyller|busy: alot of cables are crossover now days. you might just not know that they are crossover.
[08:22] <eMyller|busy> i have just one cable here
[08:22] <eMyller|busy> i'm making other one
[08:22] <Captain_Haddock> you have a crimper there?
[08:22] <Captain_Haddock> how about a cable tester?
[08:22] <eMyller|busy> yes
[08:22] <eMyller|busy> not a tester :|
[08:38] <eMyller|busy> wow
[08:39] <eMyller|busy> cable 01: w-orange, orange, w-green, blue, w-blue, green, w-brown, brown
[08:40] <eMyller|busy> cable 02: w-green, green, w-orange, blue, w-blue, orange, w-brown, brown
[08:40] <eMyller|busy> it's right, yea?
[08:40] <eMyller|busy> i dont make cables for years
[08:43] <plagueboi> eMyller|busy: ehmm... same here dunno, googe it =)
[08:44] <eMyller|busy> hehehe
[08:44] <eMyller|busy> might be
[08:44] <eMyller|busy> just googled
[08:47] <plagueboi> google is your best friend =)
[09:06] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: nothing :|
[09:06] <eMyller|busy> thank you very much, anyway
[09:06] <eMyller|busy> Mamarok, plagueboi: thanks :)
[09:07] <plagueboi> eMyller|busy: np, hope it works out
[09:07] <eMyller|busy> no joy :|
[09:07] <eMyller|busy> my plugs are over
[09:07] <eMyller|busy> i made a perfect cable
[09:08] <eMyller|busy> but it's still not working :|
[09:08] <eMyller|busy> Captain_Haddock: do u know if i can connect via wireless?
[09:08] <eMyller|busy> if yes, it'd be even better
[09:11] <eMyller|busy> yaaaaaaaaaay!!! :D
[09:11] <eMyller|busy> uhuuuuuuuuuu!!!
[09:12] <eMyller|busy> can't believe it
[09:12] <plagueboi> omg
[09:12] <plagueboi> eMyller|busy: u didnt even tr then before? xD
[09:12] <eMyller|busy> i just changed 192.168.0 to 192.168.1 to both :P
[09:12] <eMyller|busy> and now they're pinging :P
[09:12] <eMyller|busy> LOL
[09:12] <plagueboi> eMyller|busy: LOL :P
[09:13] <eMyller|busy> brb
[09:13] <eMyller|busy> will change modem
[09:21] <eMyller> 'bk
[09:38] <MinosDis> hey is anyone here familiar with the sound crackling problem?  Ever since installing the kubuntu 9.04 package from ubuntu, my sound either crackles, fails or is silent
[09:39] <MinosDis> ive done some googling with very little usefull results
[09:54] <beyondcr> ok i need some help
[09:54] <beyondcr>  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[09:55] <beyondcr> how can i get around this
[09:56] <QuantumKaos> hi guys , ive got this sound recorder, if i plug it in it just doesnt see it, so i want to download the driver for linux but it seems there's only for windows, is there a way i can make it work? the only thing i need is to copy the recorder conversations from the device to my hd. could anybody help? thanks
[09:59] <QuantumKaos> ciao raga, ho questo registratoreportatile che se collegato nn viene minimamente visto da linux, quindi cercando di scaricare i drivers pare che esistano solo x win, c'è un modo di far sì che funzioni? a me serve solo copiare le conversazioni registrate dal device all'hard disk del pc, aiuto?
[10:03] <sreejith> does jaunty jackalpe support touch screen
[10:04] <dwidmann> beyondcr: dpkg -i --force-architecture packagename.deb
[10:04] <cypr1nus> hello, how is it possible that tcpdump doesn't see icmp packets from one computer to another in one network, when tcpdump must see it?
[10:05] <beyondcr> ty dwidmann
[10:13] <vishal> I am using kubutu and my computer is using vishal-laptop 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:13] <vishal> I am able to change the display resolution in kubuntu but when I change from 1240x768 to 1024x768 then the resolution does change but the new resolution does not occupy the full screen it leaves two emtpy spaces one on the left and the other on the right.
[10:13] <vishal> Please see below pastebin for the image.
[10:13] <vishal> OPEN SUSE XORG.CONF FILE DETAILS -http://pastebin.ca/1505472
[10:13] <vishal> KUBUNTU XORG.CONF FILE DETAILS - http://pastebin.ca/1505469
[10:13] <vishal> IMAGE SHOWING THE RESOLUTION 1024 NOT TAKING UP THE WHOLE MONITOR REAL ESTATE - http://imagebin.ca/view/3X0O4a.html
[10:19] <vishal> I am able to change the display resolution in kubuntu but when I change from 1240x768 to 1024x768 then the resolution does change but the new resolution does not occupy the full screen it leaves two emtpy spaces one on the left and the other on the right.
[10:22] <vishal> any one ?
[10:23] <phh> vishal: which video driver ?
[10:24] <vishal> I am using an intel graphics card
[10:24] <vishal> product: Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:27A6]
[10:24] <vishal> vendor: Intel Corporation [8086]
[10:25] <vishal> phh: intel
[10:25] <phh> don't know then
[10:25] <vishal> phh: :) thank you
[10:25] <phh> in nvidia it's in GPU scaling methods
[10:25] <phh> there is maybe something like that for intel
[10:27] <vishal> phh: may I have a link where I can read about it
[10:30] <vishal> php: is this wht it should look like DisplaySize 336 252 # 96 DPI @ 1280x960
[10:30] <vishal> 336 252 is where I need to scale ?
[10:32] <phh> no
[10:32] <vishal> ohh wht does display size do ?
[10:32] <vishal> it was looking promising to me
[10:32] <vishal> :)
[10:36] <vishal> phh: wht does diplay size do ?
[10:36] <phh> almost nothing
[10:36] <phh> It can be used (or not) to calculate the DPIs (which will change font "sizes"), but that's all
[10:37] <phh> it gives the real size (in mm iirc), of the screen
[10:37] <vishal> ohh
[10:38] <vishal> phh: pls visit this pastebin where I have uploaded a xorg.conf which works well on my screen on a resolution of 1024x768 but its from open suse not ubuntu which I prefer
[10:39] <vishal> i could not find scalling on that maybe you can find something there which I need to change on my current configuration
[10:48] <vishal> phh: or is it?
[10:48] <vishal> Section "Screen"
[10:48] <vishal>  DefaultDepth 24
[10:48] <vishal> ubSection "Display"
[10:48] <vishal>    Depth      15
[10:48] <vishal>    Modes      "1024x768"
[10:48] <vishal>    Virtual    2048 1200
[10:48] <vishal>  EndSubSection
[10:48] <FloodBotK2> vishal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:50] <vishal> I think I need to use modeline
[10:51] <eMyller> Captain_Haddock, Mamarok, plagueboi: thanks, it's working now :)
[10:51] <Mamarok> eMyller: great :) but thanks goes to the others mostly :)
[10:52] <eMyller> nah, you helped too :)
[10:52] <gaurav> how to install kde in ubuntu with gnome?
[10:54] <gaurav> anyone?/how to install kde in ubuntu with gnome?
[10:54] <eMyller> gaurav: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:54] <eMyller> is the best way
[10:54] <eMyller> gaurav: if u wanna test, i recommend you to look for kubuntu-testers repository at launchpad
[10:58] <eMyller> Mamarok: do you know any easy way to share files through my two boxes?
[11:21] <leoss> Hi
[12:34] <Mamarok> eMyller: both Linux boxes?
[12:40] <eMyller> Mamarok: would be great
[12:40] <eMyller> i just tried ssh, but no joy, dunno why
[12:40] <eMyller> i always used it
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:43] <Mamarok> eMyller: might be a permission problem
[12:43] <Mamarok> the ssh key is given permission on the other machine and vice-versa?
[12:46] <eMyller> Mamarok: shouldnt they offer permission when connecting?
[12:46] <eMyller> i aways just installed openssh-server on both machines and was ready to go
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> eMyller: you will get a certificate that you accept when you first connect
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> eMyller: you can use a key file so you do not need a password to connect
[12:57] <jemand> is it only my impression that KUBUNTU gets more and more instable with every update?
[12:57] <jemand> now the Panel refuses to respond after 3 - 4 hrs of work
[12:57] <jemand> reboot seems the only way
[12:58] <bazhang> jemand, you have a vanilla sources.list?
[12:58] <jemand> what's that?
[12:58] <bazhang> jemand, also , what version of kde4/Kubuntu?
[12:59] <bazhang> jemand, ie are you using any PPA, or experimental/3rd repositories
[12:59] <jemand> 4.2.4 KDE
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> jemand: i was the same. i dropped it ages ago after many years loving it
[13:01] <jemand> I needed 1 PPA to get my machine running
[13:02] <bazhang> jemand, which one is that? do you have a link?
[13:02] <bazhang> jemand, this is Jaunty, correct? (9.04)
[13:04] <jemand> http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu
[13:04] <jemand> Linux mobiLX 2.6.28-14-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 8 07:41:18 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:04] <jemand> AMD64
[13:05] <jemand> and the Medibuntu non free
[13:06] <bazhang> jemand, which video card on that?
[13:08] <jemand> ATI Radeon
[13:09] <jemand> I think it's 700
[13:09] <bazhang> jemand, not too familiar with ati, I will do a websearch on the forums
[13:10] <jemand> Initialized radeon 1.29.0 20080528 on minor 0
[13:10] <jemand> from DMESG
[13:12] <bazhang> jemand, is this using desktop effects?
[13:13] <jemand> jep
[13:13] <jemand> was working fine
[13:14] <jemand> but now freezes up more and more
[13:15] <bazhang> jemand, does it freeze when using certain apps such as kpackagekit kate login-manager, kwallet? what does top show as the cpu usage? above 50%?
[13:16] <markit> hi, I've kde 4.3rc3 kubuntu, and I've a plasma crash when I run kvm VM. Do you know what -dbg package should I install to provide useful info about it
[13:16] <markit> ?
[13:17] <DaskreeCH> libvirt0-dbg
[13:18] <markit> DaskreeCH: the backtrace will be for plasma, not kvm.. is  plasma that crashes
[13:18] <jemand> CPU < 50%
[13:18] <markit> I open a terminal window, start kvm myvm.qcow, and plasma crashes
[13:19] <jemand> Firefox with npviewer takes 25% - 35% extra
[13:19] <bazhang> jemand, and the random apps crashing such as above? does that happen as well?
[13:19] <jemand> the APPS are stable
[13:19] <DaskreeCH> kdebase-workspace-dbg
[13:19] <jemand> the Panel is very slow >20 sec  or freezes
[13:20] <bazhang> jemand, there are a number of bugs, just trying to pinpoint which one it is
[13:20] <jemand> OK THXTHX
[13:21] <jemand> I could disable the PPA and look what happens...?
[13:23] <joserios> HI
[13:24] <bazhang> lspci -nn | grep VGA   what does that command return jemand
[13:24] <jemand> ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X700 (PCIE) [1002:5653]
[13:25] <joserios> ANY CHANNEL IN SPANISH?
[13:25] <avihay> !es
[13:28] <markit> !it
[13:30] <bazhang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/348332 jemand this is one report I am looking at, there are others as well
[13:31] <Captain_Haddock> eMyller: glad to hear that you got it working :) Good job!
[13:31] <eMyller> :)
[13:38] <jemand> OK. I'll switch off the handy Desktopeffects and wait until it will be fixed.
[13:38] <bazhang> jemand, according to the reports I have seen, that xorg-edgers is pretty bleeding edge stuff :)
[13:39] <bazhang> jemand, sorry not to fix your problem, seems tons of people are having it
[13:39] <jemand> but it was the only real working when JAUNTY came in.
[13:39] <jemand> It's updated daily
[13:39] <bazhang> jemand, without the PPA?
[13:40] <jemand> Is there a risk if I take it out like now?
[13:41] <bazhang> jemand, if it was working without the PPA , then you may wish to try the open source driver for your ati card, as fglrx support is really not there for Jaunty, unless you have a radeonhd card
[13:42] <devilsadvocate> can someone help me get my ntp to sync right?
[13:42] <devilsadvocate> i seem  to have some insane tz issues with it
[13:42] <jemand> OK I'll give it a try
[13:42] <bazhang> jemand, good luck
[13:43] <jemand> THX again
[13:44] <Hystoriker> bazhang and jemand: excuse me fo hijacking the last conversation, but i have some questions concerning kde and my ati-card
[13:44] <Vistaus> hello
[13:44] <Vistaus> I have a little problem with KDE playground. I have installed some applets from kde playground, but they do not appear in the Add widgets dialog, even after restarting plasma/the computer. what to do about it? im using kubuntu 9.04 with kde 4.3 rc2
[13:45] <bazhang> Hystoriker, no hijacking :) feel free to ask the channel and if someone knows they will answer
 hi. does anyone know where I can get a deb of the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel?
[13:46] <Hystoriker> and you just talked a little about, it seemed to me. my kde seems to be very slow. i have a radeon x300, a card that is not supproted by the fglrx
[13:48] <Hystoriker> so i use the radeon driver, but that is only capable of 2d, i think. so i switched off all desktop-effects because with them i sometimes get problems
[13:48] <Hystoriker> is there anyway to use the 3d-functionality of my card in jaunty?
[13:49] <bazhang> Hystoriker, which version of kde4? this is jaunty correct?
[13:49] <Hystoriker> bazhang: yes, i am working with 4.3RC
[13:49] <avihay> cor: this thred has instructions on something else, but among it are the instructions for a kernel upgrade to thatversion
[13:49] <avihay> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582
[13:49] <cor> thanks avihay
[13:49] <avihay> thread*
[13:49] <Vistaus> I have a little problem with KDE playground. I have installed some applets from kde playground, but they do not appear in the Add widgets dialog, even after restarting plasma/the computer. what to do about it? im using kubuntu 9.04 with kde 4.3 rc2
[13:50] <cor> got it, cheers!
[13:50] <bazhang> Hystoriker, do you get any random freezes?
[13:51] <cor> of course, it will probably crash the machine long before the wifi gets initialized
[13:52] <Hystoriker> bazhang: sometimes the plasma-desktop simply broke down and only after a restart of it, which was done automatically, it was there again
[13:53] <Hystoriker> but what is even more anoying is that 3d-animations are awfully slow and my cpu starts computing like hell.
[13:53] <Vistaus> does anyone know what to do about my problem? because in #kde nobody answered, and I was there for quite a long time
[13:53] <avihay> cor: there is a warning about restricted drivers not working
[13:53] <cor> problem?
[13:54] <Vistaus>  I have a little problem with KDE playground. I have installed some applets from kde playground, but they do not appear in the Add widgets dialog, even after restarting plasma/the computer. what to do about it? im using kubuntu 9.04 with kde 4.3 rc2
[13:54] <cor> is the RTL8187 restricted?
[13:55] <cor> oh right, that's more a general thing. gotcha. I must remember to look for that deb, too
[13:56] <bazhang> lspci -nn | grep VGA Hystoriker what does that return
[13:56] <Hystoriker> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] [1002:5b60]
[13:57] <Vistaus> do I have such a difficult problem? because nobody from #kde nor #kubuntu answers me...
[13:57] <bazhang> Vistaus, what is kde playground
[13:58] <Hystoriker> bazhang: under hardy and intrepid the x300 was still in fglrx, but it was dropped for jaunty :-(
[13:58] <bazhang> Hystoriker, its odd, that card should have decent 3D support https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[13:59] <Vistaus> bazhang: "The staging ground for up and coming KDE applications which aren't yet ready to be released into the wild." but there are quite some plasmoids in there which are quite stable
[13:59] <Vistaus> but they don't show up on Add widgets after installing them...
[13:59] <Ecsi> Hi all !
[13:59] <bazhang> Vistaus, do you have a link? info on how to install them?
[14:00] <Vistaus> you just install them the normal way. cmake - DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` .., then make and then sudo make install
[14:01] <bazhang> ah you have to compile them
[14:01] <Vistaus> yes
[14:01] <bazhang> Vistaus, which specific plasmoids?
[14:01] <Vistaus> if I compile a widget from kde-look, then they show up in Add widgets. but not from kdeplayground.
[14:02] <Vistaus> train-clock, keren, openbrain etc.
[14:02] <Hystoriker> bazhang: i give you an example. presume i use as desktop-background the globe. the cpu-load goes up slightly by just using that. when i click into it and start to turn the globe, my cpu-fan starts screaming and the cpu calculates a lot. but it seems as if the gpu does not help at all.
[14:02] <bazhang> weird
[14:02] <Vistaus> indeed
[14:03] <Hystoriker> also the whole systems seems to react quite slow, especially when i switch between different pograms
[14:04] <Hystoriker> i know, my bugreport here is a little unspecific, but i dont know, how to be more precise, sorry
[14:04] <bazhang> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/Plasmoids#Train_Clock Vistaus is it in the correct location?
[14:05] <bazhang> Vistaus, seems train clock is looking for a packager as the previous individual is too busy
[14:05] <Vistaus> but trainclock is just an example. there are many more widgets in kde playground
[14:05] <Vistaus> it it is the correct location btw
[14:06] <bazhang> seems quite nifty :)
[14:07] <bazhang> Hystoriker, have you taken a look at the link above? followed the steps to correctly get the radeon driver installed etc.?
[14:08] <Hystoriker> bazhang: yes i have, thank you. the output of glxinfo for "direct rendering" is yes. so obvously it is working
[14:10] <bazhang> Hystoriker, must be some other issue then, something about the 3D effects; is this with compiz, or just the kde4 effects
[14:11] <Hystoriker> i dont think that i have activated compiz (how do i know?)
[14:11] <Hystoriker> bazhang: compositing is disabled
[14:14] <bazhang> Hystoriker, sorry not to know more about ati (I have nvidia); perhaps dialing down some of the kde4 effects
[14:14] <wide_awake> hello!
[14:15] <bazhang> hi
[14:15] <wide_awake> I'm trying to get wifi working on a laptop running kubuntu 9.04
[14:15] <wide_awake> it has a broadcom card :-/
[14:15] <bazhang> wide_awake, which chipset? what does lspci show (in Konsole) and can you see wlan0 or the like in ifconfig
[14:16] <wide_awake> 4306
[14:16] <bazhang> !broadcom
[14:16] <bazhang> wide_awake, ^^
[14:16] <wide_awake> lspci shows it as did that...
[14:16] <wide_awake> oops
[14:16] <wide_awake> did that
[14:16] <wide_awake> lspci shows BCM4306
[14:17] <bazhang> yep that would be the link above wide_awake
[14:17] <wide_awake> I got as far as "check if it worked"
[14:17] <wide_awake> unfortunately, it didn't
[14:18] <bazhang> wide_awake, what does ifconfig show  ( paste.ubuntu.com ) with the output
[14:20] <wide_awake> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/230402/
[14:21] <bazhang> wide_awake, do you have a wifi hotspot to test it on? does iwconfig show anything?
[14:21] <wide_awake> bazhang: it sort of works, but it can't get a DHCP lease
[14:21] <bazhang> wide_awake, encrypted or open
[14:21] <wide_awake> open
[14:21] <bazhang> sudo dhclient wlan0 returns no offers?
[14:22] <wide_awake> right
[14:22] <bazhang> did you install the driver wide_awake ?
[14:22] <wide_awake> yeah
[14:22] <bazhang> fw-cutter iirc
[14:22] <Hystoriker> bazhang: sorry for asking again. but when i for example use an opengl-screensaver i have only around 10fps
[14:22] <wide_awake> I installed the fwcutter thing, and it auto-downloaded the drigers
[14:23] <bazhang> Hystoriker, no need to be sorry :)  I am just not the best source of info for that
[14:24] <Hystoriker> bazhang: u have helped a lot already, do u know where i can ask for more help?
[14:26] <bazhang> Hystoriker, well you can ask here every so often, and also in #radeon ; not sure about #ubuntu as I'm not clear if this is a KDE/Kubuntu bug or a problem with ATI
[14:27] <Hystoriker> barbapa: thanx, i'll try that
[14:27] <Hystoriker> bazhang: i'll try that
[14:29] <wide_awake> bazhang: weird thing is I was able to connect one time the other day.  Since then, no dice.
[14:30] <wide_awake> is there a way to "forget" former DHCP leases?
[14:30] <bazhang> wide_awake, so the drivers are working then; did you associate with the ap?
[14:30] <bazhang> wide_awake, no need to do that, it will write a new pid
[14:30] <wide_awake> when it doesn't receive any dhcp offers, it tries the IP it got last time
[14:31] <wide_awake> that's the only difference between now and before (when it worked) that I can tell
[14:32] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=713111 wide_awake here is how to associate with ap (via command line)
[14:33] <wide_awake> that says how to install wbar?
[14:35] <bazhang> whoops my mistake wide_awake
[14:35] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 wide_awake
[14:36] <wide_awake> ah, thanks
[14:36] <wide_awake> :)
[14:36] <bazhang> helping in another channel, got confused :)
[14:36] <wide_awake> heh
[14:40] <wide_awake> bazhang: do I need to stop the NetworkManager app before manually configuring the wifi connection?
[14:41] <avihay> wide_awake: sometimes it works without stopping it
[14:41] <bazhang> wide_awake, not that I know of; setting it in cli is not too hard once you read some of those commands (like in that link)
[14:42] <wide_awake> still no DHCP offers :(
[14:42]  * wide_awake tries static IP
[14:45] <wide_awake> bleh
[14:49] <jimmy51_home> why would a kernel update be "blocked" ?
[14:52] <afeijo> thunderbird 3 is available thru apt-get ?
[14:53] <takumi_fujiwara> waakks
[14:53] <wide_awake> thunderbird 3 isn't available anywhere, is it?
[14:53] <takumi_fujiwara> !ping me
[14:53] <Pici> !latest
[14:53] <afeijo> its beta I guess
[14:53] <takumi_fujiwara> \quit
[14:54] <jimmy51_home> has anyone had "blocked" updates in the update manager?  my kernel + headers says blocked
[14:55] <wide_awake> jimmy51_home: same here
[14:55] <jimmy51_home> what's the deal with that?
[14:55] <wide_awake> dunno
[14:57] <bazhang> held back updates are not uncommon
[14:57] <bazhang> nothing to worry about
[14:59] <jimmy51_home> ok... maybe that's not my issue then
[14:59] <bobbob1016> My "panel" seems to respond slowly.  When I click a program listed on it, it takes a couple seconds to actually select the program, or the window, or bring up the window list.  Any ideas?
[14:59] <jimmy51_home> i'm trying to install virtualbox, but it says my headers weren't found
[15:00] <Dragnslcr> jimmy51_home- it's because the update requires new packages to be installed (that's the way kernel updates work in Ubuntu, but it's not limited to kernel updates)
[15:00] <jimmy51_home> i checked uname -r, and saw my kernel... but there's no .27 linux headers available... just .28
[15:00] <Dragnslcr> jimmy51_home- you can do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to install blocked updates
[15:01] <jimmy51_home> Dragnslcr: would that be the way to go, or should i stick with .27 and figure out why there isn't a headers package for it?
[15:01] <bazhang> jimmy51_home, jaunty?
[15:01] <jimmy51_home> jaunty
[15:01] <afeijo> hmmm shiretoko freezing too much
[15:02] <Dragnslcr> I don't think 9.04 ever had a .27 anywhere in the kernel version
[15:02]  * afeijo found thunderbird 3 beta 3 :p
[15:02] <jimmy51_home> Dragnslcr: 2.6.27-7-generic
[15:03] <jimmy51_home> that's what uname -r gives me
[15:04] <afeijo> wth is that? Maximum number of clients reached dolphin: cannot connect to X server :0
[15:04] <bazhang> jimmy51_home, what does lsb_release -a show
[15:04] <Dragnslcr> jimmy51_home- are you sure you have Ubuntu 9.04?
[15:04] <bazhang> Hystoriker, any help in #radeon ?
[15:04] <bobbob1016> An update to my problem, Xorg is taking 24-25% of my CPU occasionally.  I'm running a quad-core so 25% is 1 CPU.
[15:05] <jimmy51_home> Description:	Ubuntu 9.04
[15:05] <jimmy51_home> it's 9.04 for sure
[15:14] <bobbob1016> My "panel" seems to respond slowly.  When I click a program listed on it, it takes a couple seconds to actually select the program, or the window, or bring up the window list.  System Monitor only shows Xorg going to 25% of my CPU usage occasionally, I'm on a quad-core so 25% is 1 CPU.  Any ideas?
[15:16] <EagleScreen> bobbob1016: see the output of "top" and "free -m" commands
[15:18] <bobbob1016> EagleScreen: Ok, I was originally using Top, but someone here suggested System Monitor, I'll do top and get back to you
[15:20] <bobbob1016> EagleScreen: Top gave me basically the same thing, but I didn't notice this before Mem: Total 2983  Used 2961, swap is almost full too
[15:20] <bobbob1016> Plasma is taking 500+ is that normal?
[15:21] <EagleScreen> not
[15:21] <EagleScreen> plasma or another process is eating your RAM
[15:22] <EagleScreen> a bug is probablt causing more memory allocations than needed
[15:22] <EagleScreen> what is your KDE version?
[15:22] <EagleScreen> are u using kget?
[15:23] <bobbob1016> Not using kget, at least I don't think I am
[15:23] <bobbob1016> Checking the version now
[15:24] <bobbob1016> I think I'm, running 4.2.2. according to synaptic (I searched for kdebase and it says 4.2.2)
[15:25] <EagleScreen> can you reproduce this issue? or does it dissapear if you restart KDE?
[15:26] <bobbob1016> It has been constant really.  My machine has been acting like this for a while
[15:26] <bobbob1016> It acts up more if I copy a lot of files/one big file across hard drives.  Going to update to 4.2.4 from the channel header
[15:27] <Pici> bobbob1016: Are you running ext4?
[15:27] <bobbob1016> Yeah
[15:27] <bobbob1016> Does the same with ext3 partitions though
[15:27] <bobbob1016> I think
[15:27] <Pici> bobbob1016: That is one of the bugs with that filesystem under the kernel in 9.04
[15:27] <Pici> !releasenotes
[15:29] <bobbob1016> Pici: Any way I can go from ext4 to ext3, without a format?  iirc ext3 to ext2 was sort of possible
[15:30] <Pici> bobbob1016: You may be able to mount the drive as ext3, but I'm unsure if this is possible if the drive was created as ext4.
[15:30] <bobbob1016> Pici: Kernel upgrade maybe then?
[15:31] <EagleScreen> I am not sure if you can mount ut again as ext3 after mounting as ext4
[15:31] <EagleScreen> a kernel upgrade is recomendable for ext4
[15:32] <bobbob1016> I'll do that after I finish going from 4.2.2 to 4.2.4
[15:32] <bobbob1016> Any suggestions on a kernel version, or just the latest?
[15:32] <EagleScreen> bobbob1016: KDE 4.3 will be released before the month ends, it will become with many fixes
[15:33] <EagleScreen> bobbob1016: are you using some module from linux-restricted-modules?
[15:33] <bobbob1016> EagleScreen: Not that I know of, I'd check but just finishing the download of the 4.2.4 packages.
[15:34] <EagleScreen> bobbob1016: if you do not use restricted drivers in linux-restricted-modules package, you can try doenload and install linux-2.6.30 packages from Debian Sid repository
[15:35] <bobbob1016> EagleScreen: Restricted drivers as in my Nvidia driver?  That is all that I'm using I can think of.
[15:36] <EagleScreen> nvidia restricted driver comes in Ubuntu inside linux-restricted-modules package
[15:37] <bobbob1016> EagleScreen: I'm actually running 185, iirc 180 is the latest in the ubuntu repos.
[15:38] <EagleScreen> how did you installed 185?
[15:38]  * Smurphy probes for channel police ...
[15:39] <bobbob1016> I tried via the installer, had problems, then I found a repo that had it.  It listed it as 180 but the "version info" or whatever in synaptic said "185really"
[15:40] <EagleScreen> nvidia-glx-180?
[15:40] <bobbob1016> I'm not sure what you're asking.  I'm running 185
[15:41] <seele> hi! i'm having trouble with my mouse in Jaunty. It's doing weird double clicking things and is quite annoying
[15:41] <seele> i'm not sure how to fix it
[15:41] <EagleScreen> i want to know what package or packages did you install, nvidia-glx-180?
[15:42] <vishesh> Hi, I'm having a slight problem with a bash script I've written. Could anyone help me with it ?
[15:42] <EagleScreen> seele: did you try rebooting?
[15:42] <Smurphy> vishesh: yes. You have it online somewhere ?
[15:42] <bobbob1016> EagleScreen: I didn't install any packages.  I added a repo, and did an upgrade.  The upgrade called it 180 but it is actually 185
[15:42] <EagleScreen> bobbob1016: okay all clear
[15:42] <vishesh> Uhm No .. but it's just 6 line. So I can post it here ?
[15:43] <Smurphy> vishesh: The Channel police won't like it ...
[15:43] <EagleScreen> vishesh: use pastebin to paste the script
[15:43] <Smurphy> vishesh: send as PM -> /msg Smurphy etc. ...
[15:43] <vishesh> Alright.
[15:44] <EagleScreen> bobbob1016: restart KDE to use fully KDE 4.2.4
[15:44] <crak> hi all
[15:44] <seele> EagleScreen: yes, this is a persistent problem
[15:45] <EagleScreen> seele: do u use mouse or touchpad?
[15:45] <seele> EagleScreen: mouse
[15:45] <bobbob1016> EagleScreen: I'm planning on it.  Just waiting for the file transfer to finish, 106gig of 109.9gig
[15:46] <EagleScreen> seele: when did it start?
[15:46] <seele> EagleScreen: when i installed jaunty ;)
[15:46] <EagleScreen> seele: after any update?
[15:46] <seele> i did updates via apt-get as soon as i installed
[15:46] <vishesh> Smurphy: Here : http://pastebin.com/m5ec17a30
[15:46] <seele> so i dont know if it existed before updates or not
[15:46] <Smurphy> vishesh: Yep. Looking at it. What's the problem now ?
[15:47] <EagleScreen> seele: try: $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:47] <vishesh> Smurphy:  the output files are usually blank.
[15:47] <Smurphy> vishesh: What do you want to achieve with it ?
[15:48] <vishesh> Smurphy:  It's written in the comments.
[15:48] <Smurphy> vishesh: Ah- I see what the issue is. You work on the file you modify and want to write back to it.
[15:48] <vishesh> Smurphy:  Yes.
[15:48] <Smurphy> vishesh: you have to use a temp-file for that. write to a tmp-file first, the move the tmp-file to the original.
[15:49] <vishesh> Smurphy: Then delete the orignal and rename the temp ?
[15:49] <vishesh> Smurphy: Alright. Thanks
[15:49] <Smurphy> vishesh: no. easier. mv $k.tmp $k ;)
[15:49] <Smurphy> vishesh: of course - mv -f $k.tmp $k ;)
[15:51] <bobbob1016> EagleScreen: 4.2.4 seems faster, I'll post back here if I get that issue again.
[15:52] <EagleScreen> bobbob1016: you will have KDE 4.3 in 11 days
[15:52] <Smurphy> vishesh: Works here if I change the sed-line to:
[15:53] <bobbob1016> 11 or 7?  The end of the month is 7 days, unless that was a typo when you said end of the month.
[15:53] <vishesh> Smurphy: I'm just trying it out.
[15:53] <Smurphy> sed 's:^#include.*"\(.*\)":#include <\1>:' $k > $k.tmp
[15:53] <vishesh> Smurphy: Yes it does.
[15:53] <Smurphy> and add a line after it with: mv -fv $k.tmp $k
[15:53] <Smurphy> vishesh: it's the problem of the Henn and the Eg. Which one is there first :D You modify a file you are reading, but are also writing to the same file at the same time :D
[15:54] <EagleScreen> bobbob1016: which repository have you used to update to 4.2.4?
[15:54] <seele> EagleScreen: yay.. x doesnt work anymore
[15:54] <vishesh> Smurphy: Yea, I guess so. Thanks a lot. It's working fine now.
[15:54] <bobbob1016> EagleScreen: Last thing, I added the repo from the channel header, where is the authentication key.  "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main"
[15:54] <Smurphy> vishesh: You're welcome. :)
[15:54] <EagleScreen> seele: then how are you here?
[15:55] <vishesh> Smurphy: :-)
[15:55] <seele> EagleScreen: irssi :P
[15:56] <seele> (and a different computer, heh)
[15:56] <EagleScreen> seele: what error does X gives you
[15:57] <seele> EagleScreen: how do i find that out? i just have a login prompt
[15:57] <robert__> hi, I'm running karmic. I just did an dist-upgrade and somehow following packages were removed
[15:57] <EagleScreen> bobbob1016: i think is this: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[15:57] <robert__> root@lati:~# apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:57] <robert__> Reading package lists... Done
[15:57] <robert__> Building dependency tree
[15:57] <robert__> Reading state information... Done
[15:57] <robert__> Calculating upgrade... Done
[15:57] <FloodBotK2> robert__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:57] <robert__> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[15:58] <EagleScreen> robert__: are you running amd64?
[15:58] <robert__> can someone help
[15:58] <robert__> yes
[15:59] <robert__> EagleScreen: yes, I'm running amd64
[15:59] <EagleScreen> four KDE4.3 RC3 packages are still building for amd64, it cause the removal of the other packages in the upgrade by dependecies unmetted
[16:00] <robert__> ah ok. so if keep my system running until than and install them at this point I'm fine again
[16:00] <EagleScreen> robert__: wait for some hours, the remaining packages will be uploaded soon, then unstall kubuntu-desktop package again and done
[16:00] <robert__> thx.
[16:01] <robert__> will do so
[16:01] <EagleScreen> i mean, install kubuntu-desktop
[16:01] <EagleScreen> seele: login prompt is good, you can do things
[16:02] <EagleScreen> seele: xorg is failing to auto detect your graphics card
[16:03] <seele> EagleScreen: ok.. what do i need to do
[16:03] <EagleScreen> seele: do u know what is your graphics card model?
[16:04] <seele> EagleScreen: just that it is nvidia
[16:05] <EagleScreen> seele: can you remember if it uses restricted driver?
[16:05] <seele> i used jockey to configure the non-free drivers if that's what you mean
[16:06] <EagleScreen> yes
[16:08] <EagleScreen> seele: you havge to configure it again in jockey
[16:09] <seele> EagleScreen: that's fine, at this point i just want x working again
[16:10] <seele> it would be nice to have a working mouse too.. but a window manager is more important at this point ;P
[16:11] <EagleScreen> seele: login in the promt with your habitual user and password
[16:11] <EagleScreen> and try running $sudo jockey-text
[16:12] <seele> i dont have jockey-text, just jockey-kde
[16:12] <seele> can we revert back to the default free driver and then i can configure the non-free driver after it works again?
[16:13] <EagleScreen> seele: if you dont have free driver now.. what do u have activated now?
[16:13] <seele> EagleScreen: i dont know.. i just rang the dpkg xorg reconfigure thing you told me
[16:13] <seele> i had the free driver before i did that, i dont know if that is what is trying to be loaded or not
[16:14] <EagleScreen> yes, that command re-auto-detect hawadware and reconfigures it
[16:15] <EagleScreen> seele: try $startx
[16:15] <seele> no go.. "no screens found"
[16:15] <seele> "Unable to find a valid framebuffer device"
[16:16] <EagleScreen> seele: try $sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phight xserver-xorg and later $stratx
[16:16] <EagleScreen> $startx
[16:19] <seele> ah heh.
[16:19] <seele> EagleScreen: so the first screen of the config tool says that "its pretty safe to say yes to this option" .. it's not.
[16:19] <seele> I had said yes to use kernel framebuffer device interface and i guess that was the problem
[16:20] <EagleScreen> are X running again?
[16:20] <seele> yes
[16:20] <EagleScreen> good
[16:20] <EagleScreen> use jockey if you have to change your graphics driver
[16:21] <EagleScreen> and how is the mouse?
[16:21] <seele> still has the double click problem
[16:21] <EagleScreen> you shoud probe another mouse
[16:22] <seele> how do i do that?
[16:22] <EagleScreen> lol
[16:23] <EagleScreen> unplug your mouse, look for another mouse and plug in it
[16:23] <EagleScreen> and, seele, go to #ubuntu-x for this kind of issues, it is a better place
[16:24] <seele> ARGH
[16:24] <seele> so the jockey driver thing said to reboot and now x doesnt work again!
[16:24]  * seele puts her head in her hands
[16:25] <EagleScreen> seele: what did you do with kockey?
[16:25] <seele> EagleScreen: enable my nvidia driver
[16:25] <EagleScreen> enable restricted driver?
[16:26] <seele> yes
[16:26] <EagleScreen> which version?
[16:26] <seele> 180 (recommended)
[16:26] <EagleScreen> and did it work with it before?
[16:26] <seele> yes, it's been working for a week
[16:26] <seele> (with reboots)
[16:27] <EagleScreen> Ubuntu does very strange things lol
[16:27] <EagleScreen> go to #ubuntu-x channel for help in X issues
[16:28] <EagleScreen> seele: you already know what to do to come back to free driver and have x running
[16:29] <EagleScreen> resumming: lingin in prompt; $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phight xserver-xorg; reboot or $startx
[16:29] <seele> EagleScreen: sigh ok. thanks for the help
[16:39] <seele> LOL
[16:40] <seele> EagleScreen: there is no InputDevice entry in my xorg.conf
[16:41] <hebo> hi i have problem with iso file , when i try to burn dvd iso image i got this error on wodim Errno: 5 (Input/output error), read track info scsi sendcmd: no error and i got same thing on k3b but on growisofs i got this error : -( /dev/sr0: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 8 ..... any idea ?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> seele, trying to edit Xorg prolly won't help you since it's tied to the HAL , and the driver is almost in kernel mode
[16:43] <seele> BluesKaj: all the help forum stuff says to edit xorg to fix my mouse problem
[16:44] <hebo> hi i have problem with iso file , when i try to burn dvd iso image i got this error on wodim Errno: 5 (Input/output error), read track info scsi sendcmd: no error and i got same thing on k3b but on growisofs i got this error : -( /dev/sr0: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 8 ..... any idea ?
[16:46] <BluesKaj> ok, seele, sorry i should have scrolled up to see that it's a mouse and not a graphics driver issue
[16:47] <EagleScreen> seele: my xorg.conf is empty
[16:48] <hebo> hi i have problem with iso file , when i try to burn dvd iso image i got this error on wodim Errno: 5 (Input/output error), read track info scsi sendcmd: no error and i got same thing on k3b but on growisofs i got this error : -( /dev/sr0: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 8 ..... any idea ?
[16:48] <BluesKaj> !patience | hebo
[16:48] <bazhang> hebo, I was providing support in #ubuntu ?
[16:49] <hebo> bazhang i know to collect much i can of soluition
[16:50] <hebo> bazhang because i wait maybe two month to solve this problem and i did`t got any real solve to this problem
[16:50] <hebo> bazhang so i hope to understand why im but the same problem on several channel :)
[16:51] <bazhang> hebo, its the same people in many channels; crossposting is generally frowned upon
[16:52] <hebo> bazhang i use xchat so the list is not showen to me :P
[16:52] <bazhang> hebo, I have yet to receive any response to the numerous question I have asked you in regards to this
[16:52] <bazhang> hebo, ok.
[16:53] <hebo> bazhang i know and i appreciate u
[16:55] <EagleScreen> hebo: you have an auto-detection problem of your hardware
[16:57] <hebo> bazhang i don`t understand what u are mean, im noops sorry :S
[16:58] <hebo> bazhang by the way before 1 week i tried to burn iso file on dvd and i did`t have problem
[16:59] <bazhang> hebo, thought you said you had this problem for two months
[16:59] <hebo> lool 1 day for me 2 month
[16:59] <bazhang> ?
[16:59] <hebo> because i have much buisness to do
[16:59] <hebo> u know the colloge and what they needs :\
[17:00] <bazhang> hebo, I can't understand you; please use normal English (such as you)
[17:00] <hebo> i mean i have problem that is
[17:00] <bazhang> hebo, I will repeat my questions
[17:01] <hebo> and my problem i can`t write iso files on dve
[17:01] <hebo> and my problem i can`t write iso files on dvd
[17:01] <hebo> ok thanks for help
[17:01] <EagleScreen> hebo: pastebin us the output of 'ls -l /dev'
[17:01] <hebo> ok
[17:01] <bazhang> hebo, this is a DVD.iso? a linux distro or other, and if other, what is it
[17:01] <hebo> linux
[17:01] <hebo> kubunt dvd iso
[17:02] <bazhang> hebo, burning on which system
[17:02] <hebo> also kubuntu 9.04
[17:04] <hebo> what the site for pastebin ?
[17:04] <EagleScreen> www.paste.ubuntu.com ?
[17:04] <hebo> thanks
[17:04] <hebo> no
[17:04] <EagleScreen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:05] <hebo> ok thanks
[17:05] <hebo> bazhang http://paste.ubuntu.com/230729/
[17:06] <shivek>  What is the command for moving multiple files ?
[17:06] <EagleScreen> shivek: mv ?
[17:08] <EagleScreen> hebo: you seem to have a DVD-RW recognised by the system: http://paste.ubuntu.com/230736/
[17:09] <hebo> mmm
[17:09] <hebo> i know i have it
[17:10] <shivek> I know about mv but I've to type it again and again/ So I need a commad to move mutiple files at once ! , EagleScreen
[17:10] <hebo> EagleScreen: but the problem is :-( /dev/sr0: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 8
[17:12] <hebo> EagleScreen: i got that problem when i use growisofs
[17:13] <hebo> EagleScreen: on wodim Errno: 5 (Input/output error), read track info scsi sendcmd:
[17:14] <EagleScreen> hebo: i closed the window, where is ur pastebin?
[17:15] <hebo> EagleScreen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/230729/
[17:16] <apparle> hi guys
[17:16] <EagleScreen> hebo: is your user in the cdrom group?
[17:17] <hebo> EagleScreen: sorry i don`t understand u because im noobs on linux what do u mean
[17:17] <EagleScreen> the user that you use to login
[17:18] <EagleScreen> has to be in cdrom group to can write CDs
[17:18] <hebo> yes
[17:18] <EagleScreen> launch kuser
[17:18] <EagleScreen> Applications -> System -> Kuser
[17:19] <hebo> i can write regular such as normal cd mp3 or some thing like that
[17:20] <hebo> yes cdrom in kuser
[17:21] <EagleScreen> is your user in cdrom group?
[17:21] <hebo> yes
[17:21] <EagleScreen> is your DVD image well downloaded?
[17:21] <hebo> yes
[17:21] <EagleScreen> sis you check the md5sum?
[17:22] <hebo> no i don`t know what the md5sum
[17:24] <EagleScreen> hebo: in the page where you downloaded the DVD image must be also its md5sum, it is a secuence if bits in hexadecimal
[17:25] <EagleScreen> run $md5sum image.iso, over yout DVD image and compare the md5sum obtained with the one in the download page
[17:26] <EagleScreen> is they are not equal, the DVD is bad download
[17:27] <hebo> MM
[17:27] <hebo> but before 1 week i burn same file and i did`t get any problem
[17:28] <EagleScreen> hebo: do you use ext4?
[17:28] <hebo> yes
[17:28] <EagleScreen> you have the remote possibility of a data corruption
[17:28] <EagleScreen> and did you updated any package in the system?
[17:29] <EagleScreen> any kernel-image?
[17:29] <hebo> yes
[17:29] <hebo> from 13 to 28
[17:29] <hebo> wait i will show u what happen in k3b
[17:29] <EagleScreen> 2.6.28-13 to 2.6.28-28?
[17:30] <hebo> yes
[17:31] <hebo> but that happen maybe one month ago
[17:31] <EagleScreen> hebo: i think 2.6.28-13 is the lastest
[17:32] <EagleScreen> you can tets with your old kernel revision
[17:32] <TakDakNama> i would like to know can i install kubuntu on my netbook?
[17:32] <hebo> EagleScreen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/230784/
[17:32] <hebo> EagleScreen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/230784/  that for k3b
[17:32] <hebo> ok i will test it
[17:34] <hebo> TakDakNama: yes u can
[17:35] <TakDakNama> do i need netbook version of kunbuntu?
[17:35] <hebo> TakDakNama: http://blogs.freifunk.net/?q=2008/10/28/installing_kubuntu_on_a_netbook & http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3098521.0
[17:36] <akSeya> guys, I have a problem in here: I use a Huawei modem (that's working fine), and have a DHCP server on my lan... when I'm connected on LAN, I'm not able to use internet even if the Huawei modem is connected... the DHCP server overrides the Huawei default gateway ... doesn't matter which I connect first, the LAN gateway always wins
[17:39] <veck> how do you change the image of a destop icon?
[17:40] <akSeya> right click it>Properties then click on the image on the window popup
[17:40] <akSeya> choose your new icon, click OK, OK again, and be happy ;)
[17:41] <BluesKaj> akSeya, excuse my confusion , exactly what kind of setup to the internet ?
[17:42] <akSeya> BluesKaj, so, there are two.. there is a firewall server on LAN... and a 3G connection with Huawei modem
[17:43] <akSeya> what I need is, IF the huawai modem is connected (it's a ppp connection) then it should be default
[17:45] <veck> akSeya: is no properties when i right click an icon
[17:46] <veck> akSeya: theres a tab that says icon settings?
[17:46] <veck> akSeya: you arent using windows are you?
[17:46] <akSeya> veck, lol
[17:47] <veck> akSeya: thought you might find that funny
[17:47] <akSeya> veck, which kde version are you using?
[17:47] <veck> akSeya: you must be excited about the release of windows 7
[17:47] <veck> akSeya: not sure how can i tell
[17:48] <BluesKaj> akSeya, the firewall server is a router ? and you're trying to connect your laptop with a 3g card ?
[17:48] <akSeya> BlueEagle, exactly
[17:48] <akSeya> veck, fancy visual.. with a lot of "fru-frus"
[17:48] <robert__> I'm having a problem with karmic and my sound. I hear it only cracking. it worked fine with jaunty. I've a 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[17:48] <BluesKaj> why bother with the 3g card , just use the built in wifi
[17:49] <robert__> something know in this area, found nothing on google
[17:49] <BluesKaj> robert__, join #ubuntu+1
[17:49] <veck> akSeya: should be the latest version i upgrade often
[17:50] <akSeya> BluesKaj, does not have an wifi network here... the 3G uses the Cell provider
[17:50] <BluesKaj> disconnect the ethernet
[17:51] <akSeya> BluesKaj, it's disconnected already..
[17:51] <BlueEagle> akseya: Happy tab-complete day.
[17:51] <akSeya> I need both cause there is a file server on local network
[17:51] <veck> akSeya: Version 4.2.96 (KDE 4.2.96 (KDE 4.3 RC2))
[17:52] <akSeya> BlueEagle, :D sorry about that
[17:52] <akSeya> veck, i'm not familiat with kde4 :/ sorry
[17:52] <BluesKaj> akSeya, which network manager are you using ?
[17:53] <veck> akSeya: its cool better get on that waiting list for windows 7 LOL!
[17:53] <BluesKaj> hehe , BlueEagle
[17:53] <akSeya> BluesKaj, how do I check? I think none..
[17:54] <akSeya> i configured my network on /etc/network/interfaces
[17:54] <akSeya> but /etc/init.d/NetworkManager is enabled on boot
[17:55] <akSeya> damn it.. i need to go..
[17:55] <akSeya> be back later
[17:55] <akSeya> BluesKaj, thanks for now ;)
[17:55] <BluesKaj> well, i'm not familiar with using a 3g card for internet
[17:55] <akSeya> BluesKaj, its just a ppp connection
[17:55] <akSeya> really need to go..
[17:55] <akSeya> c ya
[17:55] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[18:07] <fg56lx> I just got 99 security updates. And now after these updates I can't open Konqueror. When I try to it says "There was an error loading the module Dolphin View. The diagnostics is: The plugin 'dolphinpart' uses an incompatible KDE library (4.2.98 (KDE 4.2.98 (KDE 4.3 RC3)))" How can I fix this so I can open konqueror?
[18:10] <BluesKaj> fg56lx, try  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:12] <fg56lx> BluesKaj: Now when I try to open it it doent give me that error, but it doesnt open either.
[18:14] <BluesKaj> fg56lx, run sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade , then run sudo aptitude autoclean
[18:16] <fg56lx> BluesKaj: Still nothing.
[18:17] <BluesKaj> will konq open in the runbox ?
[18:17] <Heho> hi , i have problem with dvdrw , i can`t write iso file image on dvd , i got this error from brasero : http://paste.ubuntu.com/230903/ ,, and i got this from k3b : http://paste.ubuntu.com/230869/ ...... any idea ?!
[18:17] <fg56lx> BluesKaj: No.
[18:18] <BluesKaj> konsole ?
[18:19] <fg56lx> It opens from the konsole, I still get the error. But it does open. It's the web browsing konqueror and not the filebrowsing konqeror though.
[18:20] <BluesKaj> fg56lx, you can set the browsing parameters in settings/configure konqueror
[18:21] <BluesKaj> sometimes a reboot will work too despite the naysayers
[18:21] <fg56lx> Ill try that then.
[18:27] <anoneemouse> hi... how do i enable compositing?
[18:27] <anoneemouse> when i press apply for desktop effects it tells me something is wrong with x
[18:28] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: what graphics card?
[18:28] <anoneemouse> geforce le 7300
[18:28] <anoneemouse> glxinfo gives direct rendering: yes
[18:28] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: ok did you install the nvidia drivers?
[18:29] <anoneemouse> i assumed that if direct rendering works i dont need to?
[18:29] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: lets install the drivers shall we :),composting needs drivers...run jockey-kde
[18:30] <anoneemouse> recommended version?
[18:30] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: latest ones
[18:30]  * shadeslayer figures that would be the 180 ones
[18:31] <anoneemouse> when i clicked activate i got an error
[18:31] <anoneemouse> cache/apt/lock
[18:31] <anoneemouse> SystemError: Failed to lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[18:31] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: are you installing something else?
[18:31] <anoneemouse> yup
[18:31] <anoneemouse> cant do that ey?
[18:32] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: then wait for it to complete.then try it
[18:32] <anoneemouse> another question... my soundcard makes a hissy noise
[18:32] <anoneemouse> well the one does
[18:32] <anoneemouse> the other one seems fine...
[18:32] <anoneemouse> its an emu 0404 usb asio soundcard
[18:33] <anoneemouse> im amazed its even supported... but where can look into getting it to work right?
[18:33] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: static? i think you might need to fiddle around with the sound settings on that one
[18:33] <anoneemouse> where can i fiddle? :P
[18:33] <anoneemouse> i havent used linux since redhat 7
[18:33] <anoneemouse> ive been using freebsd on and off
[18:34] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: see the sound icon in the systray? right click it and select " show mixer window "
[18:34] <kill9> Hi. Im trying to update my fresh installed kubuntu system
[18:35] <kill9> but the kernel updates are blocked. how can I unblock it.
[18:35] <shadeslayer> kill9: run : sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in a terminal
[18:35] <anoneemouse> ive already looked there... the only setting there is volume
[18:35] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: did you enable all the channels?
[18:35] <kill9> thanks shadeslayer
[18:36] <anoneemouse> its only got pcm output, and then it lists the 4 asio inputs
[18:36] <kill9> Do I have to type anything for lilo or grub to work correctly after the kernel update?
[18:36] <kill9> its been awhile since Ive used linux
[18:36] <shadeslayer> oh great...i just discovered i have no output in my middle output jack
[18:36] <shadeslayer> kill9: it automatically updates grub
[18:37] <anoneemouse> :/
[18:37] <kill9> ok cool
[18:37] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: settings > select channels
[18:38] <kill9> is there a guide or anything to make the fonts look better BIT UGLY
[18:38] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: select all channels and try and reduce static
[18:38] <kill9> its a bit ugly i MEAN
[18:39] <shadeslayer> yayy i fixed it ><
[18:40] <shadeslayer> !font
[18:41] <anoneemouse> nothing there is helping shadeslayer
[18:41] <anoneemouse> but i ave bigger problems
[18:41] <anoneemouse> large amounts of files are missing on my ntfs partition
[18:41] <anoneemouse> and some seem broken
[18:42] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: hmm..well theres a program called ntfs recover...havent used it so you will need to its man pages
[18:42] <anoneemouse> i just installed kubuntu!
[18:42] <anoneemouse> did it trash my filesystem?
[18:43] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: where did you install it?? a new partition i hope
[18:43] <anoneemouse> i used wubi
[18:43]  * shadeslayer sighs
[18:43] <anoneemouse> something wrong with wubi?
[18:44] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: i am against wubi :)
[18:44] <anoneemouse> my dvd drive was broken
[18:44] <anoneemouse> is
[18:44] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: ouch...
[18:45] <anoneemouse> my windows installation is probably wasted now too
[18:45] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: i dont have the slightest idea on how to fix your ntfs problem
[18:47] <anoneemouse> i hope it didnt trash my data
[18:47] <anoneemouse> gigs worth
[18:47] <anoneemouse> important docs, projects, music :/
[18:48] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: i cant gurantee that it didnt
[18:48] <anoneemouse> it probably didnt
[18:48] <anoneemouse> the ntfs partition is probably mounted in some funny way or something
[18:49] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: ive never used it,so i have no idea
[18:49] <anoneemouse> theres no wubi channel
[18:50] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: of course not
[18:51] <shadeslayer> anoneemouse: this is all there is :)
[18:52] <anoneemouse> if my data is gone i will delete the internet
[18:52] <shadeslayer> delete the internet?
[18:52] <afeijo> I only need the /etc/resolv.conf file to configure my dns?
[18:55] <musicman> yeah
[18:56] <afeijo> its not working, my machine cant find any other in the network, linux or windows
[18:57] <musicman> you need to configure /etc/network/interfaces
[18:58] <phoenixz> I received a PDF document of somebody, which I just opened in okular.. there are many popup notes (which dont popup by the way, I have to go to a menu, and open them, not very easy).. but they are all empty.. is this a known bug?
[18:59] <afeijo> musicman: my interfaces is configured, my machine have a static ip, with values for address, netmask and gateway
[19:00] <anoneemouse> i need to reboot
[19:00] <anoneemouse> brb
[19:00] <anoneemouse> oh wait
[19:00] <anoneemouse> not
[19:00] <anoneemouse> have to leave
[19:00] <anoneemouse> bye
[19:00] <FloodBotK2> anoneemouse: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:00] <afeijo> lol
[19:01] <anoneemouse> its how i talk!
[19:01] <anoneemouse> :/
[19:01] <afeijo> learn & improve
[19:01] <afeijo> I'm so glad I dont have you on msn
[19:08] <Pliskin> Hello :) I can't add a new location for the wheather plasmoid (the search button doesn't work), is this a bug ?
[19:09] <Pliskin> I'm using KDE 4.3
[19:11] <nathanielK> Pliskin: in what way is the button not working? I thought the same thing at first, but turns out you have to be super-general to get a match
[19:11] <Pliskin> super-general ? I dont't understand :/
[19:12] <Pliskin> (my english in very bad :/)
[19:12] <nathanielK> well, the button worked for me -- I just had to type in the name of my state instead of my tow
[19:13] <nathanielK> town*
[19:13] <Pliskin> Oh, okey, thanks, I'll try that :)
[19:13] <nathanielK> so if your problem is just not getting results it may just be the search term. If the button is simply not working at all, then I can't be of much help :)
[19:14] <nathanielK> Pliskin: where are you from, out of curiousity?
[19:14] <Pliskin> I tried countries' names, It didn't work either :/
[19:15] <Pliskin> nathanielK : I tried Morocco and France
[19:16] <nathanielK> I tried France and got matches from the BBC source
[19:17] <nathanielK> I also got hits for Morocco. Not sure what the problem is :(
[19:17] <Pliskin> Strange
[19:17] <Pliskin> :/
[19:17] <nathanielK> I am running 4.2.x though.
[19:17] <Pliskin> when I click in Search, nothing happens
[19:17] <Pliskin> but sometime, I have a strange error message
[19:18] <Pliskin> nathanielK : Ok
[19:18] <Pliskin> Oh*
[19:18] <Pliskin> I'm running 4.3, that's it
[19:18] <smiges> ы
[19:18] <Mamarok> Pliskin: the weather widget doesn't work well in 4.2.x
[19:18] <smiges> ывв
[19:18] <smiges> привет всем
[19:18] <Pliskin> Mamarok : I'm running 4.3
[19:18] <Mamarok> !ru | smiges
[19:19] <nathanielK> Mamarok: it's not working for Pliskin in 4.3, and it's working fine for me in 4.2.x.
[19:19] <Mamarok> hm, didn't try that recently, let me see
[19:19] <nathanielK> Pliskin: check here: https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=weather and file a bug report if you don't find anything relevant
[19:19] <Mamarok> Pliskin: which of the weather widget do you use? the LCD one works fine for me
[19:19] <Pliskin> It was buggy in 4.2, but in 4.3 I can"t even set a location
[19:19] <Pliskin> nathanielK : ok
[19:20] <smiges> my messages visible?
[19:20] <smiges> i first day of irc
[19:20] <smiges> ping
[19:21] <shadeslayer> smiges: we hear you loud and clear
[19:22] <smiges> on the mean work
[19:23] <Mamarok> smiges: do you have a question?
[19:23] <smiges>  I usually take jabber
[19:23] <shadeslayer> smiges: or worse a problem with kubuntu?
[19:23] <smiges> i don't registration on #ubuntu-ru
[19:24] <BluesKaj> well then smiges , /join #ubuntu-ru
[19:24] <francisco_t> Hi, I lose the services of kde. And I get a error from kded, when I try open configuration in the system setting. What can i do?
[19:25] <shadeslayer> francisco_t: services of KDE?
[19:26] <francisco_t> yes, for example, powerdevil, khotkeys... etc
[19:26] <shadeslayer> francisco_t: these do not startup by default?
[19:27] <starcraftman> Anyone know how I can stop Firefox from moving to my current desktop when I click a link in Quassel. I like to keep browser and client on separate desktops, I just want to click a link and then change desktop to see it.
[19:28] <Pliskin> starcraftman : you can configure kwin to fix an app in one desktop
[19:29] <francisco_t> yes shadeslayer, I had a problem with suspend. I reboot the xserver, because kubuntu was frozen. And the next sessions, kded is broken.
[19:29] <shadeslayer> francisco_t: hm
[19:30] <starcraftman> Pliskin: Can ya point me to right section of the desktop options then?
[19:31] <shadeslayer> francisco_t: what kde version?
[19:31] <francisco_t> shadeslayer: kubuntu jaunty 4.2.4
[19:32] <shadeslayer> francisco_t: i cant think of anything...did you do something before kde froze?
[19:32] <smiges> s
[19:32] <smiges> мои месаги видно?
[19:32] <Pliskin> starcraftman : right click on the window top
[19:32] <Pliskin> then advanced
[19:32] <smiges> oi
[19:33] <shadeslayer> smiges: we understand english questions only
[19:34] <francisco_t> shadeslayer: I forced reboot de xserver with ctl+alt+backspace, because kde is very very slow after wakeup from suspend
[19:34] <smiges> registered there but can not login
[19:35] <smiges> on #ubuntu-ru
[19:35] <starcraftman> Pliskin: Excellent, thank you very much. All fixed, I just forced it to the desktop it was on.
[19:35] <smiges> i use /nickserv smiges <password>
[19:36] <shadeslayer> smiges: isnt it /msg nickserv
[19:36] <Pliskin> starcraftman : you welcome :)
[19:36] <francisco_t> shadeslayer: I created a new user to test, and kde load perfectly... maybe is a problem in my .kde/ setting?
[19:37] <shadeslayer> francisco_t: idk..you could try deleting /.kde,that would reset everything in KDE
[19:38] <francisco_t> :( all my settings lost? Is there some log-boot for kde?
[19:38] <shadeslayer> francisco_t: back it up then...rename it to kde_backup
[19:38] <smiges> but says that I have come to this nickname, but to write it i can't
[19:39] <francisco_t> shadeslayer: I'm going to try, thanks.
[19:39] <smiges> who speak russian?
[19:39] <shadeslayer> smiges: i think you need to talk to the ops about your problem
[19:41] <smiges> shadeslayer: what is it?
[19:41] <shadeslayer> smiges: hold on one sec
[19:42] <smiges> ok
[19:42] <shadeslayer> smiges: ok type /join #ubuntu-irc
[19:51] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: is the key for the backports PPA not working??
[19:51] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: nope, works fine here
[19:51] <shadeslayer> like via the command line...sudo keyserver thing
[19:52] <Mamarok> it hasn't changed s
[19:52] <Mamarok> -s
[19:52] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: my friend cant seem to be able to add the key via the cli method
[19:53] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: probably a typo
[19:53] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: same command worked here...
[19:53] <Mamarok> an alternative way is to download the key with kgpg
[19:54] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ok,ill have him do that,though i doubt he has kgpg
[19:54] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: that should be installed in Kubuntu, normally
[19:54] <Mamarok> !info kgpg
[19:54] <shadeslayer> hmm
[19:54] <noquinho> bom dia
[19:54] <noquinho> tudo bem
[19:54] <Mamarok> !pt | noquinho
[19:55] <noquinho> thanks
[19:55] <Mamarok> you are welcome :)
[19:58] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8AC93F7A : command to get keys right?
[19:59] <shadeslayer> ooh..he finally added the key
[20:00] <veck> how do I preview the usplash without restarting my pc?
[20:00] <shadeslayer> !usplash | veck
[20:03] <dbglt> hi guys, is there a way to get my wireless network to connect at startup/bootup, ie, not to be dependent on the gui? It's waiting for Network Manager applet now to connect, which is frustrating (using KDE 4)
[20:04] <veck_> shadeslayer: yeah whats the terminal command to preview my current usplash?
[20:04] <Fanfare_> veck_: so, did u get kttsd to actually speak?
[20:04] <shadeslayer> veck_: its there in the wiki...though i guess sudo usplash in a tty will work too
[20:04] <veck_> Fanfare_: no not yet still working on it
[20:05] <shadeslayer> veck_: i think the option is sudo usplash -c
[20:05] <darthanubis> anyone get 4.3RC3 from the backports yet?
[20:05] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: second
[20:05] <veck_> shadeslayer: thnx very much i was typing sudo-usplash
[20:06] <veck_> Fanfare_: well do i need to install mouth or something else to get it to work
[20:06] <Mamarok> gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[20:06] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: oh he finally added it.. thanks anyways :)
[20:06] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: you are welcome :)
[20:06] <Pliskin> darthanubis : yes :)
[20:07] <veck_> Linux Rules!
[20:07] <darthanubis> Pliskin: I'm not getting any updates using the main server?
[20:07] <Pliskin> No :)
[20:08] <Pliskin> Ubuntu is not a Rolling Release distro
[20:08] <shadeslayer> veck_: man pages to the rescue ;)
[20:08] <Fanfare_> veck_: u need a Text-To-Speech-system like festival
[20:08] <veck_> Fanfare_: ok I sry havent read the link you gave me yet
[20:09] <darthanubis> Pliskin: what?
[20:09] <darthanubis> are you talking to me?
[20:09] <Fanfare_> veck_: its described in kttsd handbook
[20:09] <darthanubis> who said anything about a rolling release distro?
[20:09] <veck_> Fanfare_: ahh have to check it out
[20:09] <darthanubis> I asked about the kde4.3rc3 being in the backports
[20:10] <Pliskin> darthanubis : you're not getting kde 4.3 from the official repo because ubuntu is not a rolling release distro
[20:10] <darthanubis> Pliskin: lol, fial
[20:10] <Mamarok> darthanubis: not yet
[20:10] <darthanubis> fail
[20:10] <Pliskin> and yes RC3 is in the bakcports repo
[20:10] <darthanubis> Pliskin: know what your talking about before typing
[20:10] <Mamarok> in the backports PPA
[20:11] <Mamarok> not the jaunty-backports
[20:11] <darthanubis> I know
[20:11] <darthanubis> I was just asking if anyone has gotten it yet
[20:11] <Mamarok> Pliskin: please be precise, those are very different repos
[20:11] <darthanubis> I know WHERE to get it
[20:11] <Mamarok> darthanubis: yes, RC3 is running here
[20:11] <darthanubis> Mamarok: Thank you
[20:11] <Pliskin> Mamarok : yes I meant the backports ppa
[20:11] <Mamarok> darthanubis: yaw :)
[20:12] <Pliskin> darthanubis : I already said I was running RC3 :)
[20:13] <darthanubis> Mamarok: strange I am not getting any updates
[20:14] <Pliskin> and I think I know what I'm talking about, btw
[20:14] <darthanubis> I'm running RC2 so I know I have the correct ppa setup...
[20:14] <shadeslayer> im getting RC3 updates
[20:14] <darthanubis> that garbage spewed about a "rolling release" was nonsense
[20:14] <darthanubis> and unsolicticed
[20:15] <Mamarok> darthanubis: your question was about the main server, and there are no updates on the main server, unless it is a rolling release
[20:15] <darthanubis> Mamarok: which server do you use for your apt?
[20:15] <Mamarok> hence the answer was correct
[20:15] <veck> Fanfare_: I believe festival is install allready how can I tell for sure
[20:15] <darthanubis> no that was NOT my question
[20:15] <darthanubis> [15:05] <darthanubis> anyone get 4.3RC3 from the backports yet?
[20:15] <Mamarok> ok
[20:16] <darthanubis> of course i did not mean the regulat backports but the PPA backports
[20:16] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: quick question,will the firefox from the firefox website work fine ? or should my friend install via apt?
[20:16] <Pliskin> I answered to that questin first
[20:16] <Pliskin> then you asked about the main repo
[20:16] <Pliskin> and i answered again
[20:16] <darthanubis> shadeslayer: install via apt, why not?
[20:16] <Pliskin> so please when someone take the time to answer, be polite
[20:16] <Mamarok> Pliskin: please
[20:16] <shadeslayer> darthanubis: he installed via the site..
[20:16] <darthanubis> the main repo question was not about the repo, it was about the main server
[20:16] <Fanfare_> veck: simply try to reinstall with          sudo apt-get install festival festival-voice
[20:17] <Mamarok> darthanubis: indeed, let's stay polite, we are all volunteers here
[20:17] <Fanfare_> veck: if it is installed , it tells u
[20:17] <darthanubis> shadeslayer: that was uneccasry
[20:17] <Mamarok> so can we end that nitpicking on both sides, please?
[20:17] <shadeslayer> darthanubis: unfourtunately he has already installed...how do i remove it now
[20:17] <darthanubis> you call it nitpicking, which is a pety description, I call it accuracy
[20:17] <Mamarok> darthanubis: update your sources, you will get the RC3 packages if you have the backports PPA activated
[20:18] <Mamarok> consider this closed
[20:18] <veck> Fanfare_: http://pastebin.com/m7ada8b49
[20:18] <darthanubis> sources are updated every time synaptic or adept or apt-get update is ran, and no updates have appeared hence why I started this line of inquiry to begin with
[20:19] <coyneder> hi everyone...whats the etiquette here? is there anything besides the FAQ i'm to read before i ask a question?
[20:19] <darthanubis> I'll consider it closed once I have resolved my issue thanks
[20:19] <Mamarok> coyneder: read the topic, please
[20:20] <Mamarok> coyneder: also, this is a support only channel, discussion goes to #kubuntu-offtopic, and of course, the COde of Conduct applies in all *ubuntu channels
[20:20] <Fanfare_> veck: ok, festival-voice was just a guess ... festival is installed
[20:21] <Mamarok> coyneder: but of course yu can ask support questions anytime :)
[20:21] <Mamarok> you*
[20:21] <veck> Fanfare_: so were do i find it ?
[20:22] <Fanfare_> veck: find and start kttsmgr in K-Menu
[20:22] <coyneder> when i try to install kompose apt-get can't find the package even though i've set it to universe...does it simply no longer exist as a supported program?
[20:23] <Mamarok> coyneder: that's a strange command
[20:23] <veck> Fanfare_: ok it started up
[20:23] <Mamarok> it should read sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[20:23] <coyneder> i mean i do this:  sudo apt-get install kompose
[20:23] <Mamarok> !info kompose
[20:23] <Mamarok> well, this is an old KDE3 application IIRC
[20:23] <coyneder> thats fine
[20:24] <coyneder> i'll stop trying to find it since it isn't findable
[20:24] <Mamarok> what does aptitude show kompose tell you?
[20:24] <coyneder> let me do that
[20:24] <Mamarok> I can't find it, what application is it?
[20:25] <coyneder> unable to locate package kompose
[20:25] <Fanfare_> veck: if it does not show a config dialog rightclick on the new icon in taskbar and select configure
[20:25] <Fanfare_> veck: afk 1 min
[20:26] <Mamarok> coyneder: the last relase was for KDE 3.2, that's very, very old...
[20:26] <Mamarok> you can install it, but I don't recommend it, as it will need very old Qt packages
[20:26] <Mamarok> coyneder: which version of Kubuntu do you run?
[20:27] <coyneder> no i'd rather not
[20:27] <coyneder> i was looking for the most updated version but if the ujpdated version is that old i'll do without
[20:27] <coyneder> i'm on jaunty
[20:27] <Mamarok> coyneder: I think you should go for the task manger in Kontact
[20:27] <Fanfare_> veck: in config dialog choose 2nd tab "speaker" or similar
[20:27] <coyneder> *shrug* i really like Expose on OS X and was hoping to get its equivalent here
[20:28] <veck> Fanfare_: not showing a new icon in taskbar
[20:28] <coyneder> but if i can't my world won't end haha
[20:28] <darthanubis> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backport
[20:28] <darthanubis> Ok I see the new pages on the page
[20:28] <Mamarok> coyneder: well, there is enough choice out there :)
[20:28] <Fanfare_> veck: did it show a config dialog?
[20:28] <darthanubis> but I think the problem is my transparent proxy giving me cached pages to apt
[20:28] <shadeslayer> bye guys and gals....
[20:29] <darthanubis> what is the command to have apt circumvent the proxy?
[20:29] <veck> Fanfare_: no it trys to start up then disapears
[20:29] <coyneder> thanks for your help mamarok! later everyone
[20:29] <Mamarok> darthanubis: what do you mean?
[20:29] <Fanfare_> veck: hm, try running    kttsmgr   in console
[20:30] <Mamarok> you can just add the sources to your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main
[20:30] <Mamarok> and add this key to your keyring:
[20:30] <darthanubis> I'm behind a web proxy transparent, and I believe apt is not pulling the new kde4 packages because of it
[20:30] <Mamarok> gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[20:30] <darthanubis> Mamarok: dude, of course I've done that
[20:30] <Mamarok> darthanubis: no, I think you just need to install the key
[20:31] <darthanubis> that is the first thing I did upon install to get the RC2 running
[20:31] <Mamarok> oh, didn't see your last answer, sry
[20:31] <darthanubis> I have the repo installed correctly, but can't seem to get updates to upgrade
[20:31] <darthanubis> np
[20:32] <Mamarok> I can't help you there, not savvy in proxy stuff, sry
[20:32] <darthanubis> This is just so weird
[20:32] <veck> Fanfare_: cannot seem to figure out how to run it from command
[20:32] <veck> Fanfare_: kdesudo kttsmgr
[20:33] <Fanfare_> veck: u dont ned sudo for the manager!
[20:34] <Fanfare_> veck: in konsole try pstree -p | grep tts to see whats already running...
[20:35] <darthanubis> got it!
[20:36] <darthanubis> Mamarok: had to clear the web proxy cache as I suspected
[20:36] <veck> Fanfare_: http://pastebin.com/m5dac0b6a
[20:38] <Fanfare_> veck: uh man thts definately running :-)
[20:38] <veck> Fanfare_: how do i get it to speak
[20:39] <Fanfare_> veck: clean up some prozesses         sudo killall kttsd          sudo killall festival           sudo killall kttsmgr
[20:39] <dwidmann> Is anyone around familiar with ddrescue? It seems to have hung on me at "Splitting Error areas" after it has "finished"
[20:40] <veck> Fanfare_: ok killed some procs
[20:41] <Fanfare_> veck: now lets first test festival
[20:41] <Fanfare_> veck: echo "Hello World" | festival --tts
[20:41] <veck> Fanfare_: ok
[20:42] <veck> Fanfare_: says cant open desktop
[20:42] <Fanfare_> veck: hm?
[20:43] <veck> Fanfare_: http://pastebin.com/m34b063d3
[20:44] <Fanfare_> veck: ok, u have a prob with sound! /dev/dsp is a sound device...
[20:44] <Fanfare_> veck: do u have sound at all?
[20:46] <veck> Fanfare_: yes i have sound
[20:47] <Fanfare_> veck: ok, wait one min, checking. festival wants OSS devices, but i guess u use ALSA...
[20:48] <veck> Fanfare_: ok did it again and it said somthing that time
[20:49] <Fanfare_> veck: ???
[20:49] <veck> Fanfare_: sry i had another app running
[20:49] <Fanfare_> veck: ok
[20:49] <Fanfare_> veck: good then
[20:50] <veck> Fanfare_: now were getting somewere
[20:50] <Fanfare_> veck: echo "Hello World" | festival --tts    works now...
[20:50] <veck> Fanfare_: yes
[20:50] <aliam> hey guys
[20:50] <Fanfare_> veck: :-) Hail open source :-)
[20:50] <veck> Fanfare_: lol
[20:50] <veck> Fanfare_: what do we test now
[20:51] <aliam> since i installed kde 4.3 rc all gtk apps crash when opening the file picker in my home directory
[20:51] <Fanfare_> veck: could u please give output of       pstree -p | grep tts   again
[20:51] <veck> Fanfare_: yeah ive seen simular programs like this for windows that cost thousands of dollars
[20:51] <Mamarok> aliam: file picker?
[20:51] <Fanfare_> veck: not getting to kttsd and kttsmgr
[20:52] <veck> Fanfare_: nothing came up
[20:52] <Fanfare_> veck: good
[20:52] <aliam> the file dialog, for example when you are about to upload a file
[20:52] <Mamarok> aliam: and which RC are you talking about, RC3 I guess?
[20:52] <Mamarok> aliam: you mean the file manager?
[20:53] <aliam> Mamarok: yes rc3. this happened also with rc2
[20:53] <aliam> Mamarok: i really dont know ho its called, sorry.
[20:53] <aliam> file dialog, file picker, file manager
[20:53] <aliam> something like that
[20:53] <Mamarok> aliam: file manager, called dolphin
[20:54] <aliam> no its not dolphin
[20:54] <Mamarok> well, what then, how do you start it?
[20:54] <aliam> its the dialog in gtk apps
[20:54] <Fanfare_> veck: start in konsole         kttsd
[20:54] <Mamarok> oh, don't know that
[20:54] <Pliskin> the file manager dialog
[20:54] <aliam> when i try to upload a file with firefox this dialog appears
[20:54] <Mamarok> aliam: you should use the one in KDE
[20:55] <Mamarok> oh, the dialog, now I understand :)
[20:55] <aliam> Mamarok: sure but i dont know how
[20:55] <Mamarok> sorry,
[20:55] <Pliskin> in firefox, you can choose to not use the gnome one
[20:55] <Mamarok> aliam: nope, firefox is a gtk application, so it uses this dialog only
[20:55] <Pliskin> in about:config
[20:55] <Fanfare_> veck: then start in konsole         kttsmgr
[20:55] <Mamarok> Pliskin: well, that never worked for me
[20:56] <aliam> Mamarok: ok, this always worked until kde 4.3
[20:56] <veck> Fanfare_: ok nothing happened
[20:56] <brewmaster> i just upgraded from kubuntu intrepid to jaunty, and now sound doesn't work for anything (mp3s, mythtv, avis, etc) except for the intro music when i first log in
[20:57] <brewmaster> any ideas on how to fix this?
[20:57] <Mamarok> aliam: well, I haven't tested everything yet, you could try and move your ~/.kde/ folder and start KDE again
[20:57] <Fanfare_> veck: could u please give output of       pstree -p | grep tts   again
[20:57] <Mamarok> brewmaster: you need to install the codecs
[20:57] <veck> brewmaster: try right clicking the speaker icon and open kmix turn up volume
[20:58] <veck> Fanfare_: shows both apps
[20:58] <brewmaster> Mamarok: i have ubuntu-restricted-extras already installed
[20:58] <aliam> Mamarok: the whole folder? is this dialog affected by this folder?
[20:58] <Pliskin> aliam : you can try to change ui.allow_platform_file_picker to false
[20:59] <Fanfare_> veck: good, now go to systemsettings in K-Menu
[20:59] <aliam> Pliskin: yes i already did that, but all the other apps dont work
[20:59] <Fanfare_> veck: accessibility
[20:59] <Pliskin> Oh, I thouht you use only firefox, sorry :/
[20:59] <veck> Fanfare_: ok
[20:59] <brewmaster> veck: the volume is at max
[21:00] <brewmaster> veck: the log in music plays fine, and the "test" works when I go into system settings
[21:00] <aliam> i also noticed that the dialog doesnt crash when it starts in any other folder that my home dir
[21:01] <Fanfare_> veck: in accessibility there should be something like speechoutput...
[21:01] <aliam> than*
[21:01] <brewmaster> if I try to play an mp3 with mplayer from the command line, i get this: http://pastebin.ca/1506097 and it hangs after outputting that last line and i hear nothing
[21:01] <Fanfare_> veck: select tab speaker
[21:04] <veck> Fanfare_: dont see speachoutput anywere
[21:04] <Fanfare_> veck: how are the both pages called?
[21:05] <veck> Fanfare_: accesability and text to speach
[21:06] <Fanfare_> veck: :-) then sure select Text to speech, as thats what we want to configure :-)
[21:06] <veck> Fanfare_: kk
[21:07] <Fanfare_> veck: select tab speaker
[21:07] <Fanfare_> veck: are there any speackers listed? delete all!
[21:08] <veck> Fanfare_: dont see speakers
[21:08] <Fanfare_> veck: second tab, maybe called talkers or so... remember i have german KDE here...
[21:09] <veck> Fanfare_: yup
[21:09] <Fanfare_> veck: remove all talkers listed if any...
[21:09] <veck> Fanfare_: ok done
[21:10] <Fanfare_> veck: now press Add..
[21:11] <Fanfare_> Language: English , Synthesiser: festival Interactive
[21:11] <veck> Fanfare_: wich synthysizer should i use
[21:11] <veck> Fanfare_: ok
[21:11] <Fanfare_> veck: select that talker and edit
[21:12] <veck> Fanfare_: allright
[21:13] <Fanfare_> veck: press Test Button lower right
[21:14] <veck> Fanfare_: nothing
[21:14] <dirag03> ubunto can not show youtube can any one help im new linux
[21:14] <Fanfare_> hm, does it show a list of voices?
[21:15] <veck> Fanfare_: no only one
[21:15] <Fanfare_> what path is set in first inputbox?
[21:17] <dirag03> ubunto can not show youtube can any one help im new linux
[21:18] <Fanfare_> dirag03: did u install medibuntu repos?
[21:18] <dirag03> no
[21:18] <Fanfare_> dirag03: !medibuntu
[21:18] <Fanfare_> !medibuntu
[21:19] <dirag03> thanx alot i ll try it now
[21:19] <dirag03> !mediabunto
[21:19] <dirag03> !medibunto
[21:19] <Fanfare_> veck: what path is set in first inputbox to festival?
[21:19] <Fanfare_> !medibuntu
[21:20] <veck> Fanfare_: /usr/bin/festival
[21:21] <Fanfare_> veck: show me result of               dpkg-query -l *festival*
[21:22] <veck> Fanfare_: http://pastebin.com/m6a254b0f
[21:23] <Fanfare_> veck: please install              sudo apt-get install festival-freebsoft-utils
[21:24] <Fanfare_> veck: what setting do u have in tab Audio ?
[21:25] <compilerwriter> is there a specific channel for those of us using wubi?k
[21:25] <compilerwriter> !wubi | compilerwriter
[21:26] <veck> Fanfare_: KDE phono
[21:26] <Fanfare_> veck: ok, change that to use alsa!
[21:27] <veck> Fanfare_: sweet test worked that time
[21:27] <Fanfare_> ok
[21:28] <veck> Fanfare_: thank you for helping me with this by the way
[21:28] <Fanfare_> veck: on the talkers config page there is a checkbox to "load voice/talker on startup" i dont know what it does, so play with it.
[21:29] <Fanfare_> in kate there is a module to talk text typed in there ....
[21:29] <Fanfare_> and konqueror has a module to talk webpages, but be careful i think its brocken it talks HTML not the text IIRC
[21:31] <Fanfare_> veck: make sure "activate TTS" is checked in tab general
[21:31] <Fanfare_> veck: and show tts in systray should be checked too
[21:31] <veck> Fanfare_:  ok thnx again ill play with it some more over the next few days
[21:32] <Fanfare_> veck: ur welkome and test www.simon-listens.org too
[21:32] <vbgunz> kopete keeps complaining about adding myself? but I cannot find myself in my own buddy list? whats up?
[21:34] <Xnet0> vbgunz: what IM network are you trying to connect to?  I've never found the solution to it.
[21:38] <vbgunz_> JavaTheJHut: I think I found the add myself complaint... try exposing empty groups *as* you shouldn't see yourself as an offline user like that *I think*
[22:02] <flavio> instalei a versão 6.10 no desktop. alguém sabe com faço pra atualizá-la?
[22:03] <shadeslayer> flavio: i believe 6.10 is eol
[22:03] <shadeslayer> !eol | flavio
[22:04] <Captain_Haddock> !br | flavio
[22:05] <Captain_Haddock> anybody know why there hasn't been an update for Ktorrent in Jaunty? It's still at 3.2.1 whereas the latest bugfix release is 3.2.2 (which looks to be avialable in karmic)
[22:06] <shadeslayer> i have 3.2.1
[22:07] <flavio> yes. i saw. the 6.10 is EOL. that is the only version that i could intall
 thanks!
[22:08] <elitrou> it's a bot, flavio :)
 Sorry, but what is that "bot"?
[22:10] <elitrou> flavio: it's not a human, it's a script, programmed to respond on certain triggers
[22:11] <real_ate> hello! i possibly made a little bit of a hasty dicision there a second ago. I just installed the KDE 4.3 RC but i'm having problems
[22:11] <real_ate> Its not program problems its actually packaging problems
[22:11] <real_ate> dpkg is exiting with an error code 1
[22:12] <real_ate> so i'm only getting part of the update
[22:12] <real_ate> also : trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libkephal.so', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-bin
[22:12] <real_ate> any suggestions ?
[22:12] <elitrou> real-ate: have you tried to do sudo aptitude reinstall kde-workspace-bin?
  Ok! thnaks!!
[22:13] <elitrou> flavio: you're welcome
[22:13] <real_ate> elitrou: kdebase-workspace-bin is already the newest version.
 by the way....do you know something about Error5 - Input/Output devices during kubuntu installation?
[22:14] <Captain_Haddock> shadeslayer: yes, I have 3.2.1 as well.. why isn't there an update to 3.2.2? It was release on 1st June.
[22:14] <real_ate> do you mean uninstall? there is no "reinstall" command
[22:14] <shadeslayer> Captain_Haddock: i also have a svn version i use for kde-nightly,but no idea on the upgrade
[22:15] <Captain_Haddock> Cheers
[22:15] <shadeslayer> Captain_Haddock: maybe theyre busy with the RC?
[22:15] <elitrou> real_ate: do you try apt-get or aptitude?
[22:15] <real_ate> oh
[22:15]  * real_ate read that wrong
[22:15] <Captain_Haddock> shadeslayer: well, it's already available for karmic.
[22:16] <shadeslayer> Captain_Haddock: that is irrelevant
[22:16] <Captain_Haddock> (and it's a bugfix release.. so it's probably more straightforward)
[22:16] <Captain_Haddock> shadeslayer: why, exactly?
[22:16] <shadeslayer> Captain_Haddock: because something that works in karmic might not work in jaunty
[22:17] <real_ate> elitrou: i don't think this is the problem... i can't do any of this because it is asking me to uninstall all the other kde stuff i just installed
[22:17] <Captain_Haddock> Sure, but the compile script hasn't changed from 3.2.1 to 3.2.2.. There must be some other "administrative" reason behind it
[22:17] <elitrou> real-ate: does it mentions any dependency problems?
[22:17] <shadeslayer> Captain_Haddock: dunno
[22:19] <real_ate> elitrou: http://pastebin.com/d53f05fca
[22:20] <real_ate> wtf!!! its working now!!!!
[22:20] <avihay> umm, I need some help. I tryed to upgread from 8.4 to 9.4, the upgread process faild, I tryed dpkg a few times, it managed to install most packages. I tryed to reboot, and bam, It won't load the root filesystem
[22:20] <elitrou> real_ate: it's a dark magic:)
[22:20] <shadeslayer> avihay: you cannot upgrade to 9.04 from a 8.04 LTS install
[22:21]  * real_ate quite used to dark magic
[22:21] <real_ate> ;)
[22:21]  * real_ate is a developer
[22:21] <shadeslayer> avihay: you need to reinstall all over again,thats why LTS releases are different from ' Normal ' releases
[22:21] <real_ate> KDE 4.3 come to papa!!!
[22:22] <avihay> it tryes to load the root filesystem by UUID, and I'm starting to belive that it's because /dev/disk/by-uuid isn't working
[22:22] <avihay> shadeslayer: maybe I mixed a few versions up, it was probebly 8.04 to8.10
[22:23] <shadeslayer> avihay: you can only go from 8.04 to 10.04
[22:24] <ikonia> shadeslayer: you can go from 8.04 to 8.10
[22:24] <ikonia> shadeslayer: you can upgrade to non-lts releases.
[22:24] <shadeslayer> ikonia: i thought 8.04 was LTS
[22:24] <avihay> well, if I in initramfs, if I ls /dev/disk/by-uuid, I don't see my root hdd's uuid, only the others
[22:24] <ikonia> it is
[22:24] <shadeslayer> ikonia: really? i thought LTS meant you can only upgrade to the next LTS
[22:25] <ikonia> no,
[22:25] <avihay> no
[22:25] <shadeslayer> then i guess its  8.04 to 8.10 then to 9.04
[22:26] <Dragnslcr> shadeslayer- Kubuntu 8.04 wasn't an LTS anyway
[22:26] <shadeslayer> Dragnslcr: what!
[22:27] <avihay> guys, you be missing the issue!
[22:33] <flavio> does anyone knows something about Error5 - Input/Output devices during kubuntu installation?
[22:33] <Daviey> flavio: could be bad media?  CD.. try reburning?
 i did that, but the problem still extis
[22:36] <avihay> I think that the last CRT monitor in the house is on it's last legs... sigh
[22:39] <Kragnerac> :)
[22:40] <elitrou> flavio: did you check the md5sum?
[22:58] <hagisbasheruk> His folks , just installed Kubuntu Netbook Edition , had a few crashes after boot on X so did the customary apt-get update/upgrade , all looked well on reboot but when desktop splash screen came up it faded away to black screen with no task bar , X is still running so i installed Xchat and Windows r fine
[22:58] <noquinho> portuguese?
[22:59] <hagisbasheruk> so seems to be problem with taskbar and desktop only
[22:59] <noquinho> how can i back after i press crtl+alt+f1 ???
[22:59] <shadeslayer> noquinho: ctrl+alt+F7
[23:00] <noquinho> i always turn of because i never knows back
[23:00] <noquinho> ok
[23:00] <hagisbasheruk> now you do :P
[23:00] <noquinho> thx
[23:00] <elitrou> hagisbasheruk: try to boot into recovery mode and auto-fix graphic file
[23:02] <hagisbasheruk> okay ;) brb , thanks elitrou
[23:02] <noquinho> where i find portuguese channel?
[23:03] <elitrou> noquinho: i'm not sure there is one
[23:05] <noquinho> como eu faco apos instalar envynv-gtk ??
[23:05] <noquinho> i need install my nvidia
[23:06] <noquinho> i instaled already envynv-gtk
[23:06] <noquinho> but i dont know what to do now
[23:07] <avihay> noquinho: what is the two letter short for portuguese?
[23:13] <avihay> noquinho: and you need to run envy, it should guid you thorugh the driver install process
[23:25] <veck> How do I create a shortcut to wine C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Wow.exe
[23:26] <avihay> veck: where, desktop, folder, or Kmenu?
[23:29] <hagisbasheruk> sudo apt-get update the apt-get upgrade --fix-missing seems to have resolved some problems , i now see desktop YAY !!
[23:31] <veck> avihay: desktop folder
[23:31] <hagisbasheruk> thanks to who pointed me in the right direction but i saw no fix-graphic in recovery menu
[23:31] <elitrou> hagisbasheruk: you need to scroll it down to see it
[23:31] <hagisbasheruk> i did
[23:32] <elitrou> sounds strange - it's the last option i have on my list
[23:32] <hagisbasheruk> anyway thanks , it made me think :)
[23:33] <hagisbasheruk> let me check again , i have just done some updates , brb rebootin
[23:33] <veck> avihay: /home/david/Desktop/World of Warcraft/Wow.exe
[23:34] <avihay> go there with a file manager like dolphin
[23:35] <avihay> right click on an empty area, and select create new->link to application
[23:37] <veck> avihay: empty area on my desktop?
[23:39] <avihay> yes
[23:39] <Scunizi> I'm running kub. Jaunty in a vbox vm.. the auto updater said there were updates that wouldn't process so I went to the terminal and did update, upgrade and dist-upgrade to capture the kernel updates.. doesn't kubuntu prompt for a reboot on a kernel upgrade? if it does it seems I don't know where to look.
[23:40] <Scunizi> AH HA
[23:40] <Scunizi> nevermind.. I found it.. :/
[23:41] <dave_30> how do i add startup programs? is there an app to make it simple?
[23:41] <avihay> dave_30: sinaptic, as simple and strightforward as it comes
[23:41] <avihay> grr
[23:42] <hagisbasheruk> nope , i dont have fix-graphic on Kubuntu Netbook Edition on recovery menu elitrou
[23:42] <avihay> !synaptic | dave_30
[23:42] <Captain_Haddock> dave_30: system settings -> advanced -> autostart
[23:43] <avihay> ok, sory, I misread there
[23:44] <veck> avihay: did you forget about me
[23:44] <avihay> no
[23:45] <veck> avihay: patience is a virtue
[23:45] <avihay> are you looking at your desktop, or at your dektop through dolphin?
[23:45] <veck> avihay: both
[23:46] <veck> avihay: there is no shortcut to wow on my real desktop so i have to open it with dolphin and loanch it every time
[23:46] <avihay> if your looking throug dolphin, you can go to file->create new->link to application
[23:46] <avihay> a dialog box will appear
[23:47] <Captain_Haddock> veck: if you have it in KMenu, you can just drag it to your desktop.
[23:48] <Captain_Haddock> Wine usually adds program icons in a Wine folder (IIRC)
[23:48] <avihay> in the application tab there is a text box
[23:48] <veck> avihay: there is no file/create new application
[23:48] <avihay> you canenter the wine "c:\...      ....exe" there
[23:49] <veck> avihay: theres a file create new directory
[23:49] <avihay> file, create new link
[23:51] <veck> avihay: so you are saying that in dolphin to click on the file tab at top and create new link?
[23:52] <avihay> it's called link to application
[23:52] <avihay> under the create new menu, of the file menu in the menu bar of dolphin
[23:53] <avihay> I'm trying to find an image online, but no luck so far
[23:54] <veck> avihay: there is nothing in dolphin file tab called create new menu
[23:55] <veck> avihay: sry misunderstood you i found it
[23:57] <vlt1> Hello. I have some corrupt files in /usr/ and /lib/ -- Any idea how to repair them? What command can I run after chrooting to the root fs?
[23:58] <veck> avihay: ok now how do i find the location or path to the file?