[12:00] <joh> ante: yeah, why? :P
[12:00] <KragenSitaker> hi.  is this the place to ask for help diagnosing problems with Evolution under Ubuntu?
[12:00] <ante> Think my default looks are pretty bad
[12:00] <ante> is*
[12:00] <ante> its boring
[12:00] <joh> KragenSitaker: ask your question here :)
[12:00] <KragenSitaker> Mine hangs for a minute or two and never connects, ever since upgrading from warty to hoary.
[12:00] <joh> ante: use xmms then
[12:00] <KragenSitaker> To the Exchange server.
[12:01] <KragenSitaker> other people in the company haven't had this problem with Evolution.
[12:01] <joh> KragenSitaker: is this ubuntu-specific or evolution?
[12:01] <ante> my xmms cant handle shoutcast stream music
[12:01] <KragenSitaker> running on Ubuntu.
[12:01] <KragenSitaker> It's my-laptop-specific, apparently.
[12:01] <joh> KragenSitaker: same version of evolution?
[12:01] <KragenSitaker> yes, running on Hoary also
[12:01] <joh> KragenSitaker: what is your problem exactly?
[12:02] <KragenSitaker> Evolution hangs for a minute or two and never connects to the Exchange server, ever since upgrading from warty to hoary.
[12:02] <KragenSitaker> Also GNOME tells me various evolution processes have died.
[12:02] <KragenSitaker> something about an alarm manager.
[12:02] <KragenSitaker> And Evolution says things are timing out talkign to the Exchange backend process.
[12:02] <joh> KragenSitaker: have you checked the bts?
[12:02] <KragenSitaker> malone?
[12:03] <joh> ?
[12:03] <KragenSitaker> Eventually I get "Could not connect to server xxxx: Network error"
[12:03] <joh> bug tracking system
[12:03] <KragenSitaker> I have not.  I suppose I should have done that first.
[12:03] <gub> ok the patched libx11-6&libx11-dev version 6.8.2-20keys1 for hotkeys (ctrl...) on breezy are available on http://hybrid-dev.net/ubuntu breezy main
[12:03] <KragenSitaker> (xxxx is of course the name of the server)
[12:03] <joh> KragenSitaker: might be a good idea :)
[12:03] <joh> ok
[12:03] <ante> what do I need to skin rhythmbox?
[12:04] <KragenSitaker> where is the Ubuntu BTS?
[12:04] <joh> ante: you don't skin your rhythmbox.
[12:04] <dabugas> has anyone installed kde from a kubuntu cd on top of ubuntu?
[12:04] <joh> KragenSitaker: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[12:04] <KragenSitaker> thanks!
[12:04] <ante> But Joh u said its possible to change the looks
[12:04] <joh> no problem! :)
[12:04] <joh> ante: of the whole gnome environment, yes.
[12:04] <KragenSitaker> (uhoh, bugzilla)
[12:04] <ante> of rhythmbox
[12:04] <joh> ante: I never said that.
[12:05] <ante> ok..
[12:05] <joh> ante: if you want a skinnable player, go for xmms.
[12:05] <ante> But xmms cant handle the streaming music I listen to
[12:05] <joh> ante: you can change the theme of all gnome applications though.
[12:05] <spanglesontoast> is there .deb package for ntfs-driver?
[12:05] <ante> ok thnks
[12:05] <shinu> when i do an alias, why doent it save it? if i run a new xterm its not there anytmore...
[12:05] <joh> spanglesontoast: ntfs-driver? like the kernel driver for reading ntfs filesystems?
[12:06] <spanglesontoast> ya
[12:06] <joh> shinu: you have to add it to one of the startup scripts. like ~/.bashrc
[12:06] <joh> spanglesontoast: I think it should be in the standard ubuntu kernel.
[12:06] <shinu> oh...
[12:06] <shinu> ok thanks
[12:07] <lonewolff> hey, does anyone know why when i try to hotswap on my dell inspiron it works except if im swapping cd-drive for something else when upon ejecting the cd drive the system locks up completely?
[12:07] <joh> spanglesontoast: note though, that ntfs support in linux is limited. You can read, but write only if you do not change the size of the file you are writing to :P
[12:07] <joh> shinu: np.
[12:07] <spanglesontoast> ya
[12:08] <spanglesontoast> but is there a .deb package?
[12:08] <joh> spanglesontoast: you are unable to mount the ntfs filesystem?
[12:08] <zoddan> where can i find the guide how to install windows fonts on ubuntu ???
[12:09] <spanglesontoast> well is it already installed?
[12:09] <joh> spanglesontoast: I think so.
[12:09] <spanglesontoast> ah
[12:09] <joh> spanglesontoast: it's pretty standard.
[12:09] <[koji] > spanglesontoast: it's compiled in the kernel
[12:09] <spanglesontoast> how do I mount it?
[12:10] <[koji] > spanglesontoast: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[12:10] <anto9us> lonewolff: I have an inspiron too but I don't hotswap so haven't encountered that problem. You might want to try the hotswap package in universe which promises to deregister ide devices
[12:10] <zoddan> anyone ??????
[12:10] <runedude> hm
[12:11] <joh> spanglesontoast: mount /dev/hdX /mount/point
[12:11] <lonewolff> anto9us: i will give that a try, thanx, out of curiosity what inspiron do you have (i hot swap when running out of battery and away from power hehe)
[12:11] <joh> zoddan: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FontInstallHowto
[12:12] <anto9us> lonewolff: 9100, I have spare batteries but they're not for the drive bay, I have to shutdown or find a power socket :(
[12:12] <spanglesontoast> it thinks my partition doesn't exist
[12:13] <spanglesontoast> dw
[12:13] <spanglesontoast> lol
[12:13] <spanglesontoast> missed the d
[12:13] <lonewolff> anto9us: ah i have a 4150, so the drive bay also acts as a second battery bay which is good (8 hours use from 2 batteries)
[12:13] <snowseal> how to properly install mplayer?
[12:14] <anto9us> lonewolff: yeah, mine does too, I don't find it too much of an inconvience right now but if I ever do I'll look into getting one
[12:14] <nern> hey
[12:14] <nern> i need help with my fstab
[12:14] <zoddan> joh: that not it
[12:14] <zoddan> s
[12:14] <priest> in which directory shall i put w32codecs to mplayer?
[12:15] <nern> im trying to get it to mount a fat32 partition, i have my directory made and i can get it set to mount on bootup, but all users do not have read and write priveledges
[12:15] <joh> snowseal: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/CompileMplayerHowto maybe...
[12:15] <snowseal> i compiled it and it works.
[12:15] <linukso> Ah, just finished reinstalling ubuntu with my crappy cd-rom, only had to remount the disk once....
[12:15] <zoddan> anyone know the URL to the page that shows how to install windows fonts in ubuntu ?
[12:15] <nern> i would like to be able to have my fstab configured so that the fat32 drive mounts on boot and is accessible and writable by any user
[12:15] <Johnnyfav> I'm having real problems setting up this nvidia driver
[12:16] <snowseal> but its crasy and it wont integrate with the windwo manager
[12:16] <joh> zoddan: yes it is: "The msttcorefonts contains the Mircosoft free fonts, including Arial, Comic Sans and Times New Roman."
[12:16] <zoddan> joh: ?
[12:16] <sevets> Hey
[12:16] <Fikrann> Hey falks, I have a slightly broader question .. Which network filesystem would you recommend?
[12:16] <dooglus> http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005250039,,00.html
[12:16] <joh> zoddan: or do you want to install ttf fonts in linux?
[12:16] <zoddan> joh: im talking about tahoma in gnome not corefonts.........!!!
[12:16] <sevets> Anyone know why a basic ubuntu install would not play an mp3?
[12:16] <joh> zoddan: oh.
[12:16] <nern> anyone?
[12:16] <nern> anyone that can help me with this fstab thing
[12:17] <joh> zoddan: well, it's all there.
[12:17] <dooglus> nern, sure.
[12:17] <KragenSitaker> ugh, I have to create a bts account
[12:17] <runedude> joh: well, err, i get this error http://pastebin.com/292937
[12:17] <dooglus> nern: what's the problem?
[12:17] <zoddan> joh: where ?
[12:17] <Johnnyfav> I downloaded the nvidia driver from the nvidia the one where I change the X conf file to ='nvidia' and I can't get around this kernel source package crap....what do I do?
[12:17] <nern> dooglus: thanks, i want to be have my fat32 drive mount on boot with full reading and writing priveledges for all users.
[12:17] <zoddan> joh: ??
[12:18] <lonewolff> anto9us: thanx a lot for the help that worked
[12:18] <runedude> Johnnyfav: i just did apt-get install nvidia-kernel and it took care of all of it for me
[12:18] <dooglus> nern, I got that much.  what's the problem?  did you add a line to /etc/fstab already?
[12:18] <joh> zoddan: the url I gave you.
[12:18] <joh> runedude: hmm...
[12:18] <joh> runedude: is this a dvd?
[12:18] <runedude> nope
[12:18] <zoddan> joh: where ?
[12:18] <runedude> cdr
[12:18] <joh> runedude: how large is it?
[12:18] <runedude> erm
[12:18] <nern> dooglus: yeah the only part i need help with is the options, i have everything else right
[12:18] <runedude> let me look @ the cd
[12:18] <joh> zoddan: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FontInstallHowto
[12:18] <mello> sevets: mp3s are patented, that's why
[12:19] <runedude> It's a 700MB CDR
[12:19] <runedude> Verbatim
[12:19] <mello> sevets: a fresh Ubuntu install is completely free and unpatented
[12:19] <sevets> mello: well ofcourse
[12:19] <joh> runedude: how large is the iso?
[12:19] <dooglus> nern: if you don't put "noauto" as an option, it should be automatically mounted.
[12:19] <runedude> About 614MB
[12:19] <sevets> mello, the music player says it can play mp3
[12:19] <dooglus> nern: umount it, then run "mount -a" - does it get mounted?
[12:19] <joh> runedude: should work then...
[12:19] <runedude> sevets: yeh, but, your soundcard probably isnt supported..
[12:19] <Johnnyfav> runedude: E: Package nvidia-kernel has no installation candidate
[12:19] <mello> sevets: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[12:20] <runedude> joh: hm, yea, should, i had a few troubles with this writer on Windows.
[12:20] <mello> try that
[12:20] <sevets> runedude, by the music player? Because sounds are coming through the speakers
[12:20] <sevets> thanks mello
[12:20] <zoddan> joh: i said thats not it
[12:20] <mello> yep
[12:20] <zoddan> joh: its wrong
[12:20] <nern> dooglus: what I really need is to know what options will enable all users to read and write the drive
[12:20] <runedude> Johnnyfav: erm... well.. I am pretty sure thats what I installed..
[12:20] <mello> i'm waiting to see what breezey has for multimedia
[12:20] <KragenSitaker> ugh, now the bug tracking system won't consent to send updates to a bug to my work address because I created the account with my home addres
[12:20] <zoddan> joh: i have seen another, cant remeber the URL, and it works mutch better and simpler
[12:20] <mello> hoary is a son of a gun when it comes to movies/music
[12:20] <runedude> heh, well, sevets make sure you are using the correct output plugin ;-)
[12:20] <mello> i would love a fresh install of breezey..
[12:20] <crimsun> KragenSitaker: just add your work address to the CC?
[12:21] <KragenSitaker> i tried.  it complains that it doesn't "match anything."
[12:21] <ghatak> System Monitor shows memory usage = 89.5MB, if i start top. it shows memory usage = 147mb . what does thtis mean
[12:21] <nern> mello: hoary isnt mean... all it took for me to be fully functional was apt-get install totem-xine w32codecs
[12:21] <runedude> joh: as i mentioned, i have had several issues with this CDWriter on Windows, and just tried a new box I got.... Not working in a nutshell.
[12:21] <sevets> runedude, haha well I shall check that out I suppose
[12:21] <runedude> :)
[12:21] <mello> breezy*
[12:21] <dooglus> nern: I don't think you need any options for that.  I use these:  /dev/sda5 /mnt/fat   vfat noauto,user,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,uid=1000,codepage=850 0 0     and it's fine for me
[12:21] <Parallaxx> anyone can tell me a linux for a server on a Pentium 133 with 64 EDO-RAM??
[12:21] <mello> nern: point taken.. i b0rked it hard last time around
[12:22] <runedude> I recommend xmms for mp3s, it has a VERY nice way to input/and output but, any mp3 player you are using probably has a preferences section.
[12:22] <nern> dooglus k thx man ill try that
[12:22] <mello> nern: ubuntu is an experiment for me
[12:22] <KragenSitaker> paralaxx: something that doesn't involve X, if possible
[12:22] <Parallaxx> I know
[12:22] <dooglus> nern: I have 'noauto' mind.
[12:22] <Parallaxx>  KragenSitaker: but I cant find one
[12:22] <joh> zoddan: it's "wrong"? what's that supposed to mean? I don't know which page you read before.
[12:22] <KragenSitaker> you could probably install debian with no X
[12:23] <dooglus> and I don't know why I have 'uid=1000' - there's no such user on this OS
[12:23] <zoddan> joh: well thats not it i used before
[12:23] <joh> zoddan: can't help you then.
[12:23] <norm_> hi - i've described a problem with my WLAN/WPA at http://pub.mcnally.dk/ubuntu_wpa_question.txt - i'd appreciate if someone with a little knowledge about Intel Pro Wireless 2200bg, ubuntu and WPA could take a look at it
[12:23] <zoddan> ...
[12:23] <runedude> joh: I contacted HP support and they had no idea what was wrong, they just told me to check out settings on Windows... that didnt work ofcourse :\ I think the drive is screwed up totally.
[12:23] <caine> hey i can only open gnutella from terminal at the moment...is it possible to create a shortcut for it on my desktop
[12:24] <[koji] > zoddan: tried this? http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrafonts
[12:24] <raDeon> WHO CALLED ME
[12:24] <RuffianSoldier> GRRR
[12:24] <runedude> caine: sure, make a sh script on ~/Desktop , and inside it put "gnutella"
[12:24] <RuffianSoldier> im getting mad
[12:24] <zoddan> [koji] : thats not it
[12:25] <joh> runedude: try without -overburn ?
[12:25] <caine> rune: how?
[12:25] <runedude> Oh wait I apologize
[12:25] <runedude> Thats not how.
[12:25] <runedude> joh: yeh, i added that originally and posted the log of that
[12:26] <zoddan> joh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20976
[12:26] <zoddan> joh: there you got it
[12:26] <caine> i know how to make a shortcut for a folder and a launcher but how do i make the shortcut something i only know how to open through terminal
[12:26] <joh> zoddan: ok
[12:26] <runedude> caine: right, look at this http://<IP_ADDRESS>/mozillafirefox.desktop < that's a pretty good example of how to do it, thats my firefox example
[12:27] <runedude> Just change the options, like the EXEC path
[12:27] <caine> k
[12:27] <joh> runedude: but did you try *without* -overburn?
[12:27] <runedude> joh: without -overburn returns a error that the media isnt big enough, sorry, i misread
[12:27] <eddlandos> hehe
[12:27] <spanglesontoast> mirc works
[12:28] <eddlandos> I'll die now
[12:28] <eddlandos> hehe
[12:28] <joh> runedude: oh, that indicates that the drive is not working properly. This was a 64M iso?
[12:28] <runedude> joh: no, its a 614MB is :)
[12:28] <runedude> iso*
[12:29] <joh> runedude: oh, right. Should work anyways. So my guess is that the drive is not reporting to the OS it is able to write anything at all.
[12:29] <runedude> joh: yea.... :( unfortunatly, i have no idea how to fix this issue.
[12:29] <joh> runedude: have you tried with another cd burner?
[12:29] <runedude> I only have one cdwriter, joh :S
[12:29] <nern> dooglus: worked great thanks alot
[12:30] <runedude> I'll try a starwars quote here, for HP, "The force isnt with them"
[12:30] <joh> runedude: ok... but this *might* be a problem with cdrecord itself. Not sure.
[12:30] <joh> runedude: hehe
[12:30] <runedude> joh: doubt it, i had the same problems on windows with countless applications
[12:30] <dooglus> nern, ok.  I don't know what bit did the trick, but glad it worked :)
[12:30] <tonybaloney867> i'm new to ubuntu. How do i disable GPG checking the server's signature?
[12:31] <joh> runedude: oh, ok.
[12:31] <runedude> this is a different machine, too
[12:31] <fabs> hello
[12:31] <runedude> hiya fabs
[12:31] <joh> runedude: I guess you just have to buy a new one then :(
[12:31] <fabs> runedude, hello :)
[12:31] <runedude> joh: lol.. hm.. wonder if i can smash the  drive first
[12:32] <runedude> maybe I should open it up and toy with its screws and stuff
[12:32] <fabs> how u doing guys?
[12:32] <joh> runedude: haha, just throw it out of the window.
[12:32] <runedude> heh, might hit our dog :P
[12:32] <joh> runedude: if it was a hard-drive, you could make two speakers out of it ;)
[12:32] <runedude> heh
[12:32] <runedude> i have headphones :P
[12:32] <joh> runedude: oh, that's not good.
[12:32] <joh> runedude: hehe
[12:32] <runedude> hang on ill try to open it
[12:33] <runedude> im going to get out of this ssh session and irc from my desktop
[12:33] <runedude> brb
[12:33] <joh> runedude: so you've never actually been able to write with it properly?
[12:34] <qweeq> ho
[12:34] <qweeq> hi
[12:34] <fabs> qweeq, hi
[12:34] <qweeq> for some reason i cant run live cd amd 64
[12:34] <joh> runedude: so you've never actually been able to write with it properly?
[12:34] <qweeq> its hwaurong
[12:34] <qweeq> hoary
[12:34] <joh> :P
[12:34] <runedude> joh: nope
[12:34] <joh> runedude: not even in windows?
[12:35] <psychonate> hmm
[12:35] <runedude> had alot of trouble with it (it used to be in my moms computer, but never worked there either)
[12:35] <runedude> joh: nope, no where
[12:35] <qweeq> can some one help me with live cd amd 64
[12:35] <psychonate> grip keeps telling me I'm trying to use an invalid encoder executable
[12:35] <joh> runedude: I guess you shouldn't break it then :P send it back and ask for a replacement.
[12:35] <anto9us> runedude: have you got the latest firmware in it?
[12:35] <psychonate> oggenc should work fine though
[12:35] <runedude> joh: its a old model
[12:36] <joh> runedude: oh, too bad.
[12:36] <runedude> and anto9us , firmware isnt free w/ hp, i would have to pay them for a new driver CD:S
[12:36] <qweeq> anyone wanna help me
[12:36] <caine> hey what is the killall command
[12:36] <anto9us> runedude: I remember a few years ago fixing an HP Writer by doing a firmware upgrade, there were lots of problems with some early models
[12:36] <caine> killall....
[12:37] <runedude> hmm
[12:37] <caine> i need to killall mozilla
[12:37] <runedude> well, i have no firmware:(
[12:37] <caine> but im not typing it correctly
[12:37] <runedude> caine: killall mozilla-bin perhaps?
[12:37] <runedude> i know mozilla firefox is firefox-bin
[12:37] <runedude> you can do ps aux | grep mozilla
[12:38] <runedude> and kill those pids
[12:38] <joh> runedude: HP isn't giving out firmware upgrades for free!?
[12:38] <caine> nope
[12:38] <anto9us> runedude: try HP tech support, they may let you have firmware for free if you plead poverty and tell them how lovely they are and all that :)
[12:38] <runedude> joh: they used to, but lost money perhaps by giving fixes to their own crappy models that never worked!
[12:38] <xyzx> Hey Folks what is the best way to provide remote access to my ubuntu/webserver to upload html etc. files?
[12:38] <joh> anto9us: haha, that's not gonna work :p
[12:38] <joh> runedude: heh
[12:38] <anto9us> joh: it might :)
[12:38] <runedude> now you have to pay to get a cdwriter that works, when you should have got it the first time you bought it!
[12:39] <joh> anto9us: doubt it, tech-support-people are evil.
[12:39] <qweeq> hi pls help i wanna run ubuntu 64 live cd
[12:39] <nern> qweeq: whats the prob
[12:39] <joh> runedude: there are laws about that you know :P but not if your cd writer here is very old.
[12:39] <fabs> qweeq, explain
[12:40] <joh> bye nurv...
[12:40] <anto9us> runedude: in UK faulty goods can be claimed against up to 6 years after purchase, don't know the case for you.
[12:40] <runedude> im a US resident :S
[12:40] <joh> anto9us: doesn't that depend on the expected lifetime of the goods in subject?
[12:40] <xinud> after installing kubuntu on amd64 with soft-raid , raid md0 and md1 device fail ? any suggestions
[12:41] <JasonF> I've learned that tele tech support people do exactly what you want
[12:41] <joh> xinud: check the logs?
[12:41] <JasonF> if you talk loudly and firmly from first word
[12:41] <anto9us> joh: yes, and also depends on how much use
[12:41] <joh> JasonF: haha, I've never experienced that :P
[12:41] <joh> anto9us: yep, same here in Norway.
[12:41] <JasonF> joh: I've never failed to get what I want from a tech support rep
[12:41] <anto9us> fact is, companies don't like losing goodwill and especially when it would cost them nothing
[12:41] <qweeq> nern i have zv6000 hp laptop when i boot live cd with no pARAMETERS it lokcs up
[12:42] <anto9us> HP are a good and reputable company in my experience
[12:42] <joh> JasonF: then I guess you're lucky ;) or just very good.
[12:42] <spanglesontoast> how do I install flash for firefox?
[12:42] <nern> qweeq: hmmm, and it has a 64 bit processor youre sure?
[12:42] <JasonF> joh: the latter
[12:42] <qweeq> neer thats what says in my computer protperties
[12:43] <joh> JasonF: So if I need something from tech support, I'll just contact you then? :p
[12:43] <admx> Anyone know when backports will be up?
[12:43] <nern> admx the backports are fune
[12:43] <snowseal> nvidia drivers, can i apt them?
[12:43] <nern> admx fine*
[12:43] <mello6> yep
[12:43] <joh> snowseal: they're in linux-restricted-modules
[12:43] <snowseal> cewl
[12:44] <admx> did the address change
[12:44] <joh> btw, anyone got java working on ppc?
[12:44] <nern> admx you should use the mirrormax ones those work great for me
[12:44] <psychonate> argh, wtf is wrong with grip
[12:44] <JasonF> joh: I charge $50/hr consulting
[12:44] <JasonF> feel free to hire me
[12:44] <runedude> joh: well, after 10 minutes of tinkering with the writer, i got it open
[12:44] <JasonF> lol
[12:44] <runedude> lol
[12:45] <admx> Will give that a try. Thz
[12:45] <joh> JasonF: haha, :p
[12:46] <nern> admx: yeah i just checked and they are working fine..
[12:46] <xinud> joh, cat /proc/mdstat tell me that md0 md1 are resync = ... 234.2 min...
[12:46] <tidalwav1> anyone know why sound in VLC media player doesn't work?
[12:47] <qweeq> nern still there can you help
[12:47] <joh> xinud: ok, they're resyncing then. Wait 234.2 mins then :P the time remaining does change, doesn't it?
[12:47] <joh> JasonF: do I get my money back if you fail to get what I want from the tech support? :p
[12:47] <JasonF> joh: no
[12:47] <joh> JasonF: thought so :P
[12:47] <tidalwav1> I'll take that as  no. :(
[12:48] <nern> qweeq: well if you are certain that you have a 64 bit processor then you should be ok, but you might try using the fbdev xdrvr instead
[12:48] <xinud> joh, indeed
[12:48] <Stereo> hi folks
[12:48] <xinud> joh, soi have to wait
[12:48] <joh> xinud: yup
[12:49] <runedude> joh: well, guess i wont be able to write a cd for a long time, LOL.. anyways, erm... maybe i should try distrobutions with floppy installs
[12:49] <xinud> joh, and reboot after resync is done
[12:49] <runedude> atm, i only have a ubuntu disk and gentoo
[12:49] <joh> runedude: oh, that's sad :p
[12:49] <joh> xinud: no need for reboot
[12:49] <runedude> joh: yea, sad that hp wont give you a working product
[12:49] <dooglus> any 'Wine' users here?
[12:49] <joh> runedude: did the writer work before?
[12:49] <joh> dooglus: yes.
[12:49] <joh> dooglus: to a certain extent that is.
[12:50] <dooglus> joh: do you know if Macromedia's "shockwave" (not "flash") works in Wine?
[12:50] <nern> i never use wine
[12:50] <jdiamond> i'm not able to install binfmt-support with synaptic. it's giving me a 404 Not Found when it tries to download it. any ideas?
[12:50] <qweeq> nern what do those option do?
[12:50] <Stereo> I met a french bloke on the train today, he maintains gnome for ubuntu. I just realised I gave him wrong contact details, and I can't for the life of me remember his name. Is there anywhere I could find out who he is? I already tried http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/gnome/gnome but that seems to be mostly debian people
[12:51] <nern> qweeq: well i believe the boot parameter would be xdrvr=fbdev ... that is going to tell ubuntu to use the fbdev driver for display rather than vesa, this is sometimes what you have to do on laptops
[12:51] <joh> dooglus: hmm, not sure. Have you checked the wine appdb?
[12:51] <runedude> joh: nope, the writer never worked..
[12:52] <dooglus> joh: could you try visiting http://www.isketch.net/isketch.shtml in Wine?  do you see a login screen?
[12:52] <runedude> dooglus: it wont work on linux
[12:53] <dooglus> runedude: why not?
[12:53] <runedude> unless you get ceoffice (30 day trial out there)
[12:53] <joh> dooglus: sorry, I'm running on ppc where there is *no* flash support :(
[12:53] <joh> runedude: crossover office?
[12:53] <runedude> Because, macromedia didnt port shockwave to linux, and wont
[12:53] <nern> you can get crossover office off of mininova.org
[12:53] <runedude> joh: yea, that
[12:53] <joh> runedude: yep, thought so.
[12:53] <dooglus> runedude: I'm asking about WINE...
[12:53] <spanglesontoast> shockwave never needed it
[12:53] <runedude> and even crossover office blows at shockwave, cant even do ANYTHING lol.
[12:53] <runedude> nope
[12:53] <joh> dooglus: coffice *is* wine.
[12:53] <dooglus> runedude: it shouldn't need porting if you use WINE, right?
[12:53] <runedude> ^ what joh said
[12:54] <dooglus> joh: I don't think it is.  WINE is free, and coffice isn't
[12:54] <joh> dooglus: coffice is a tweaked version of wine.
[12:54] <runedude> coffice is made with wine
[12:54] <runedude> :P
[12:54] <joh> yep :P
[12:54] <runedude> joh: this cdwriter will make a nice warm fire for me to warm upto tonight :)
[12:54] <dooglus> I used to use Win4Lin - that worked fine, apart from rendering fonts.
[12:55] <dooglus> all letters in a shockwave app showed up as empty boxes
[12:55] <iratsu_> I get the following error when I try runnign pppoeconf on my box: Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access Concentrator of your provider did not respond. Please check your network and modem cables. Another reason for the scan failure may also be another running pppoe process which controls the modem
[12:56] <joh> runedude: it will!? I didn't know cd writers made good fire"wood"
[12:56] <runedude> :p
[12:56] <runedude> joh: if it cant, ill burn it anyways:P
[12:56] <joh> runedude: hehe :P then send it to HP
[12:57] <runedude> joh: maybe i should burn it, then put it in a baggy, and send it to them :P
[12:57] <joh> runedude: with a note attached: "This drive is broken, please send a new one"
[12:57] <joh> runedude: yeah, sounds like a good idea.
[12:57] <runedude> like I'm going to pay to get a new product that should have worked? nah.. doubt it :S
[12:58] <runedude> pfft, i just want to burn cds.. am i asking for much? lol
[12:58] <joh> runedude: well, never buy another product from HP, that's for sure.
[12:59] <joh> runedude: also, I've not had a plesant experience with asus cd writers.
[12:59] <anto9us> joh: that counts out compaq and lexmark badged products too then
[12:59] <joh> anto9us: well, yes :p
[01:01] <anto9us> I've always found HP to be a good manufacturer myself, never liked lexmark though
[01:02] <runedude> grr.. well, now the case wont go back on
[01:02] <runedude> brb, im gonna try to find another cdwriter, lol
[01:04] <P229> can ubuntu be installed onto an LVM volume?
[01:05] <crimsun> P229: yes
[01:05] <P229> crimsun: thanks
[01:05] <snowseal> linux-restricted-modules not found :(
[01:05] <anto9us> P229: you'll need to put /boot outside the LVM
[01:05] <Jrwa> Hi all. I can't find help on the spanish chanel, I hope you can give me a hint
[01:05] <runedude> well, joh, im out a cdwriter, lmao
[01:05] <crimsun> snowseal: you need to append $(uname -r)
[01:05] <runedude> the drive wont go back in
[01:05] <snowseal> k
[01:05] <runedude> the tray i mean
[01:06] <P229> anto9us: hmmm, I see
[01:06] <nate__> wearing leiderhosen and clogs while yodeling and typing on irc
[01:06] <nate__> the typical swede
[01:06] <qweeq> hi
[01:06] <Jrwa> I'm on a kubuntu hoary, and its mounting my dvd on different locations. It's changed from /dev/dvd, to /media/cdrom0 and now to /media/hdc. Isn't it possible to set it to a permanent place or what...?
[01:06] <qweeq> how do i get my keyboard working on ubuntu what parameters should i use
[01:06] <spanglesontoast> is nessus good?
[01:06] <nate__> nessus is very good
[01:07] <crimsun> Jrwa: /dev/dvd should work
[01:07] <nate__> so is nmap
[01:07] <runedude> hrm
[01:07] <spanglesontoast> is it a good idea to install it?
[01:07] <qweeq> nern still there
[01:07] <Jrwa> crimsun, it doesnt. the folder does not exist, neither when I mount the dvd
[01:07] <runedude> well, joh know any good distrobutions that can install via floppy disk ( i have quite a few of those ;P ), and er.. other than debian, or bse
[01:07] <runedude> bsd*
[01:07] <nate__> spanglesontoast, depends on what you're gonna do with it.  if you plan on being dumb and hacking others, then its a bad idea
[01:07] <psychonate> I know Jrwa /dev/dvd is not a mount point
[01:07] <psychonate> er, "I know" wasn't supposed to be there lol
[01:08] <Jrwa> where should I be able to find it then? I can't set a folder on my media player settings, because its always changing!
[01:08] <qweeq> rundude windows distroction xp
[01:08] <crimsun> Jrwa: do you have an /etc/udev/cd-aliases.rules?
[01:08] <psychonate> You don't use the mount point for XINE, mplayer, etc.
[01:08] <Jrwa> let me see
[01:08] <winston> is there a way to activate the ssh daemon on startup?
[01:08] <crimsun> Jrwa: err, make that /etc/udev/rules.d/cd-aliases.rules
[01:08] <psychonate> Jrwa, you typically tell media players which DEVICE FILE to use
[01:08] <carthik> winston, read up on update-rc.d
[01:08] <psychonate> not mountpoint
[01:09] <joh> winston: it should already be.
[01:09] <crimsun> winston: just install openssh-server
[01:09] <nate__> winston, add a script to init.d?
[01:09] <joh> winston: check for /etc/rc*.d/*ssh* symlinks.
[01:09] <carthik> winston, update-rc.d -f <name of service> should add it to the startup scripts
[01:09] <psychonate> Jrwa, and most will use /dev/dvd by default, so link your device file to /dev/dvd if /dev/dvd does not already exist.
[01:09] <crimsun> installing openssh-server takes care of all that
[01:09] <runedude> qweeq: huh?
[01:09] <spanglesontoast> well I'm just wondering what people use it for
[01:09] <joh> crimsun: yep
[01:09] <carthik> winston, what crimsun said is true :)
[01:09] <nern> qweeq: im still here
[01:09] <joh> spanglesontoast: explore networks.
[01:09] <qweeq> windows distroction xp thats a good distrobution that can install via floppy disk
[01:10] <runedude> perhaps another gentoo install will be fun, lol
[01:10] <qweeq> or windows distroction dos
[01:10] <psychonate> Jrwa, do you see what I mean?
[01:10] <Jrwa> crimsun theres no cd-aliases.rules
[01:10] <Jrwa> psychonate, kaffeine ask me for a folder, I think
[01:10] <crimsun> Jrwa: in /etc/udev/rules.d/ ?
[01:10] <nate__> spanglesontoast, to detect vulnerablilities in systems
[01:10] <nern> qweeq: someone else with some more experience with the live cds can help more if i couldnt... i havent ever used one of the ubuntu livecds, just mepis, knoppix, kanotix, and DSL
[01:10] <Jrwa> just udev.rules file
[01:10] <crimsun> Jrwa: did you dist-upgrade from Warty, or did you install cleanly?
[01:10] <psychonate> Jrwa, for what? for watching DVDs?
[01:10] <nate__> spanglesontoast, its a short jump from detecting vulnerabilities to exploiting vulnerabilities
[01:11] <psychonate> You shouldn't need to know the mount point for that.
[01:11] <nufan> Can anyone help me with helping out on the wiki?
[01:11] <Jrwa> psychonate, yes for watching a DVD
[01:11] <spanglesontoast> so it could keep my machine nice an secure
[01:11] <Jrwa> I updated from Warty
[01:11] <spanglesontoast> but other people may use it for their own pleasure?
[01:11] <psychonate> nah, kaffeine should just need to know which device file
[01:11] <psychonate> What *exactly* does it ask you for (exact wording)?
[01:11] <carthik> nufan, try joining #ubuntu-doc -- someone there helped me once before
[01:12] <crimsun> Jrwa: sudo ln -s /etc/udev/cd-aliases.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/.
[01:12] <Jrwa> dvd.device (device used for DVD playback)
[01:12] <nern> nufan: are you a fan of NUFAN?
[01:12] <Jrwa> ok
[01:12] <bhankins> Got a copy of the liveCD from a co-worker, this is pretty impressive.
[01:12] <nate__> spanglesontoast, you could use from another machine on your machine to detect vulnerabilities, thats about it
[01:12] <psychonate> Jrwa, there you go: It wants the DEVICE file
[01:12] <nufan> nern: No Use For A Name? Sort of
[01:12] <psychonate> Jrwa, not the mount point
[01:12] <nern> nufan: yeah they are ok, but there is always better :)
[01:12] <crimsun> Jrwa: after you do that, sudo invoke-rc.d udev restart
[01:12] <psychonate> Jrwa, so, give it the device file
[01:12] <spanglesontoast> so it would only be good for a server/
[01:12] <spanglesontoast> ?
[01:13] <nate__> spanglesontoast, it might be illegal to have it outside of a business or lab environment though
[01:13] <Jrwa> psychonate, but I dont know where to find it
[01:13] <nate__> spanglesontoast, no, its good for any machine that you want to use to detect vulnerabilities on other machines
[01:13] <Jrwa> crimsun, ok, done ^^
[01:13] <crimsun> Jrwa: just follow my instructions
[01:13] <spanglesontoast> ah
[01:13] <nate__> spanglesontoast, you pick a target and it tests it for vulnerabilities
[01:13] <psychonate> Jrwa, /dev/dvd does not exist? If not, link your existing device file for that drive to /dev/dvd/.
[01:13] <crimsun> Jrwa: you should have a /dev/dvd
[01:14] <psychonate> and just tell it /dev/dvd
[01:14] <nate__> spanglesontoast, its a short jump from that to hacking, so be careful.  In some places even testing others for vulnerabilities is illegal, i believe
[01:14] <Jrwa> yes I do
[01:14] <spanglesontoast> shame my k6 doesn't work with ubuntu
[01:14] <crimsun> Jrwa: then you're all set.
[01:14] <Jrwa> let me try!
[01:15] <Jrwa> oook, it works perfectly now
[01:15] <runedude> joh: you k onw, I tried a yamaha drive once, didnt work either :(
[01:15] <Jrwa> thank you very much (english channel is much better than the spanish one :P)
[01:15] <crimsun> of course it does. It's an old dist-upgrade issue. :)
[01:15] <winston> ok tried to install open ssh but says it depends on openssh-client (=1:4.0p1-1) but 1:3.9p1-1ubuntu2 is to be insstalled
[01:15] <spanglesontoast> you talking to me crimsun?
[01:15] <crimsun> winston: get rid of external repos and update
[01:16] <crimsun> spanglesontoast: no, to Jrwa
[01:16] <winston> except its already installed
[01:16] <winston> repos?
[01:16] <crimsun> winston: prime example of why using external repos is bad
[01:16] <joh> runedude: eh? :(
[01:16] <winston> whats a repos?
[01:16] <anto9us> spanglesontoast: pretty much most you have to worry about is plusnet's terms of use if you're going to use nessus over the internet.
[01:16] <crimsun> winston: apt-cache policy openssh-client
[01:16] <P229> anto9us: how about if I add ubuntu to my existing grub menu (which is in /boot outside LVM)? would ubuntu's /boot still need to be outside LVM?
[01:17] <spanglesontoast> hey
[01:17] <spanglesontoast> anto9us
[01:17] <spanglesontoast> how oyu know I'm using that?
[01:17] <anto9us> spanglesontoast: that should read.. in plusnet's terms of use
[01:17] <winston> crimsun yeah? anything else?
[01:17] <winston> crimsun: yeah? anything else?
[01:17] <anto9us> P229: if I understood you correctly, yes
[01:18] <crimsun> winston: paste in #flood
[01:18] <spanglesontoast> anto who you know I'm on plusnet
[01:18] <Johnnyfav> how do you set the openGL resolution?
[01:18] <anto9us> spanglesontoast: your domain name :)
[01:18] <runedude> joh: yea.. well, i didnt do anything in depth... only at default didnt work.. my dad has a cdwriter in his laptop, but very little he lets me write a cd
[01:19] <joh> runedude: so you tried another cd writer on the same system as the HP, and it didn't work either?
[01:19] <spanglesontoast> oh ok
[01:19] <runedude> joh: err.. believe so
[01:19] <runedude> it was like err... a few months ago
[01:19] <runedude> but
[01:19] <joh> runedude: then it's probably not the cd writer..
[01:19] <joh> runedude: which version of cdrecord?
[01:20] <runedude> joh: the thing is, now I put it into my server box (atm it used to be on my desktop box) , and it wont work on my server OR desktop
[01:20] <runedude> err lemme check
[01:20] <joh> runedude: but it used to work on your desktop? :p
[01:20] <runedude> nope
[01:20] <runedude> nothing worked on my desktop
[01:20] <runedude> both writers
[01:20] <runedude> joh: hang on , i got my server apart.. let me rewire it
[01:20] <spanglesontoast> impair the security of the system and/or the network used to provide the Service; or
[01:20] <spanglesontoast> I suppose that covers it
[01:21] <bhankins> Would anyone happen to know if the d-link wireless G card DWL-510 V.B1 would work in Ubuntu? I checked the wiki section and its not specifically mentioned. I do know that it uses the Atheros chipset and works with madwifi.
[01:21] <joh> runedude: have you tried using another program such as cdrdao to write a cd? just for testing?
[01:21] <crimsun> winston: do not mix debian experimental and ubuntu hoary!
[01:21] <joh> bhankins: checked the madwifi websites?
[01:21] <runedude> joh: nope
[01:22] <runedude> but i doubt i can do anything w/ the writer, i kinda screwed it up when i was taking it apart (it was very hard to take apart)
[01:22] <joh> runedude: try that perhaps. (cdrdao is for audio cds)
[01:22] <joh> runedude: oh, this is the same driver?
[01:22] <runedude> er, yes
[01:22] <joh> runedude: I thought you said this was a different one :P
[01:22] <crimsun> winston: otherwise you'll have to pass an explicit version to aptitude/apt-get
[01:22] <P229> anto9us: thank you
[01:22] <runedude> nope, i was saying awhile ago i used to have another drive ;)
[01:22] <anto9us> P229: np :)
[01:23] <runedude> but its long gone now (the yamaha)
[01:23] <joh> runedude: oh, phew :P
[01:23] <bhankins> joh: yes, I couldn't really tell if hoary already came with madwifi though.
[01:24] <benjamin23> anyone here having a problem playing shoutcast streams from amarok?
[01:24] <runedude> joh: maybe my best bet is to use floppies :(
[01:24] <winston> crimsun: right I need a prog that was still experiemental, I switched my sources .list back, should I paste again?
[01:24] <joh> runedude: maybe try netinstall?
[01:25] <crimsun> winston: no need. Just pass an explict version to aptitude/apt-get
[01:25] <runedude> joh: heh.. of what?
[01:25] <joh> bhankins: hmm, I think linux-restricted-modules has madwifi.
[01:25] <rancorus> How does one get pppoe set up on ubuntu?
[01:25] <runedude> netinstalls are a quirk for me, since i have cable and fast dl rate
[01:25] <joh> runedude: ubuntu? :p
[01:26] <winston> crimsun: not sure what you mean?
[01:26] <nern> netinstalls rule
[01:26] <runedude> joh: they have netinstall via floppy?
[01:26] <joh> runedude: not sure...
[01:26] <runedude> heres the thing, atm i have ubuntu 5.04 cd, :P
[01:26] <crimsun> winston: sudo aptitude install openssh-server=1:4.0p1-1
[01:26] <nern> before switching to ubuntu i was all about the debian sarge-netinstall cd
[01:26] <Razor-X> how would you go about creating a Live CD in general?
[01:26] <runedude> I've been wanting to try a different distro tho, no offense to ubuntu, I LOVE ubuntu and thinks its a very good server platform.
[01:26] <nern> i liked to edit the sources.list file so that i would install sid with kde 3.4
[01:26] <runedude> on my desktop i use gentoo
[01:26] <nern> that was when i used kde though
[01:27] <bhankins> joh: thanks I will research into the restricted modules.
[01:27] <runedude> now, i have err, a livecd
[01:27] <joh> bhankins: np, just apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` or something.
[01:27] <Razor-X> bur[n] er: i'm a gonna check that out
[01:28] <runedude> I have gentoo as a livecd, so.. er.. maybe I can like uhm, install via that even for slackware stuff( wow, this is getting tricky for me to compile into a good wording)
[01:28] <winston> crimsun: I figured out my prob, I had switched sources.list so Synaptic was naturrally confused
[01:28] <winston> crimsun: I just installed the ssh-server
[01:28] <bhankins> joh,  your right thanks alot, it looks like restricted modules are on by default in the liveCD, so I should be able to tell before I install the real thing. Thanks again.
[01:28] <Razor-X> I saw the front page
[01:28] <winston> crimsun: do I need to configure something from here?
[01:29] <Razor-X> what does it include... I wonder...
[01:29] <crimsun> winston: no
[01:29] <bur[n] er> Razor-X: ibuild is a gui to make morphix-based cds
[01:29] <crimsun> winston: (you want openssh-server)
[01:29] <bur[n] er> Razor-X: but it could be expanded to use ubuntu sources
[01:29] <qweeq> hi
[01:29] <benjamin23> anyone here use amarok
[01:29] <runedude> well, i have all of the CentOS cds downloaded
[01:29] <benjamin23> i need help trying to play http streams
[01:30] <benjamin23> they never open
[01:30] <galactic2> can someone help me with a grub problem?
[01:30] <nern> no qt progs here
[01:30] <qweeq> i was able to boot ubuntu and see the splash screen and my mouse cursor but all of a sudden the mouse got stuck and wont move can someoe help me
[01:30] <nern> except k3b
[01:30] <bur[n] er> Razor-X: also check out mmaker and isomorph from the morphix project (they are more easily expanded to use ubuntu)
[01:30] <benjamin23> it says connecting server, and then just gives up
[01:30] <qweeq> hi nern pls help
[01:30] <joh> bhankins: no problem!
[01:30] <benjamin23> is there a special port amarok uses?
[01:30] <galactic2> my bootloader's freezing on the word "grub"
[01:30] <runedude> brb (again)
[01:30] <nern> qweeq: ok whats the model of yer laptop again?
[01:30] <rancorus> How does one get pppoe set up on ubuntu?
[01:31] <qweeq> nern its hp zv 6000
[01:31] <qweeq> its got amd 64
[01:32] <Razor-X> no, I guess Ibuild isn't the thing for me
[01:32] <Razor-X> I'm a thinking I'm gonna work on a DSL live CD
[01:33] <geargolem> any midi musicians here?
[01:33] <qweeq> nern still there
[01:33] <Razor-X> (yes I add in the "a" on purpose)
[01:33] <qweeq> is broadcom wireless supported under linux
[01:34] <nern> can anybody with more experience with the live cds maybe give qweeq here a hand? i dont know what the prob is...
[01:34] <Razor-X> geargolem: not really a MIDI musician, but I know how it works, and i've tracked before
[01:34] <nern> qweeq: whats happening when you try to boot it
[01:34] <galactic2> can someone help me with a grub problem?
[01:34] <Razor-X> galactic2: what's going wrong?
[01:34] <galactic2> my bootloader's freezing on the word "grub"
[01:34] <winston> crimsun: thanks a lot, it works
[01:34] <geargolem> Razor-X,  do you use Brahms as an editor?
[01:35] <nasti> hey anyone help with putting a game in the game menu
[01:35] <qweeq> well i saw the splash screen of ubuntu and at that time the mouse was still working a couple of cpu cycles then boom mouse got stucked and the system locked up
[01:35] <Razor-X> geargolem: like I said, i'm not very versed in music, just have a small bit of experience in it
[01:35] <Razor-X> galactic2: send me your GRUB config
[01:35] <geargolem> Razor-X,  same.
[01:35] <Razor-X> or rather, cat it to pastebin
[01:36] <Razor-X> geargolem: no, I don't use Brahms
[01:36] <galactic2> heres my situation ... iv got a RAID array with 2 SATA hard drives on which xp is installed, managed by monterhboard RAID
[01:36] <galactic2> i have a third SATA HDD on which i put ubuntu
[01:36] <geargolem> can midi instrument SOUNDS be ported between sequencers?
[01:36] <galactic2> im trying to use ntldr to boot grub
[01:36] <nern> qweeq: hmm i really dont know... i dont have much experience with the ubuntu live cds like i said :/ so im sorry i dont know... someone here should be able to help you
[01:36] <qweeq> k thanks
[01:36] <galactic2> right now, grub boots if i tell the bios to boot from the third hdd
[01:37] <nasti> anyone know how to put things in the Applications menu
[01:37] <galactic2> but if i try to boot it with ntldr using the file i copied with dd, it crashes on grub
[01:37] <nasti> using a .desktop file
[01:37] <Razor-X> geargolem: not the sounds themselves, MIDI just stores the notes
[01:37] <anto9us> galactic2: it's normally done the other way around, ntldr from grub
[01:37] <Razor-X> geargolem: you'll want something lossless to store the music itself
[01:37] <qweeq> anyone knows why ubuntu crashes on boot? i was able to se the splash screen but all of a sudden my system locks up at the splash screen display. pls help
[01:37] <Razor-X> galactic2: it's NTLDR booted from GRUB
[01:37] <geargolem> Razor-X,  I'm talking about Brahms ability to edit scores
[01:37] <Razor-X> geargolem: I'm not sure, sorry -_-
[01:38] <runedude> NTLDR *shivers* isnt that windows?
[01:38] <galactic2> no im using ntldr to boot grub
[01:38] <geargolem> Razor-X,  you can use different voices for your notes i.e. piano, bass slap bass, guitar
[01:38] <galactic2> because grub wont recognize my RAID partition
[01:38] <geargolem> Razor-X, just trying to find more voices
[01:38] <Razor-X> runedude: yes, it is
[01:38] <runedude> :o
[01:38] <zoddan> ok my X cannot start
[01:38] <Razor-X> galactic2: i'l bet it can, and if not, something else can
[01:38] <zoddan> how do i reconfigure it ?
[01:38] <runedude> I had a boot error w/ it once, and it well, err.. never worked
[01:38] <zoddan> i cannot login as root in the console
[01:38] <runedude> zoddan: Xorg -configure
[01:39] <zoddan> so how do i do ?
[01:39] <runedude> I had to reinstall windows:(
[01:39] <Razor-X> geargolem: like I said, i'm not sure :\
[01:39] <galactic2> its NVRAID
[01:39] <galactic2> which is funky mobo raid that needs drivers for some reason
[01:39] <zoddan> runedude: i cannot run that command
[01:39] <Razor-X> galactic2: hold on a sec i'm a gonna do some searching for you
[01:39] <nern> zoddan: try running sudo passwd and then doing su on the console and you should be able to login as root
[01:39] <zoddan> runedude: "option can only be used by root"
[01:39] <runedude> oh, zoddan hm.....
[01:39] <runedude> yea.. heres what i did.. sudo -s
[01:39] <galactic2> its horrible nothing can read it without special drivers ... i cant do anything with it now though because iv got alot of data on the array
[01:39] <zoddan> nern: no
[01:39] <zoddan> nern: it says my root password is invalid
[01:39] <zoddan> nern: cant login
[01:40] <runedude> zoddan: use your password for your normal user
[01:40] <zoddan> i have
[01:40] <zoddan> dont work
[01:40] <rancorus> How does one get pppoe set up on ubuntu?
[01:40] <anto9us> zoddan: see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:40] <zoddan> talk about fucky up distro
[01:40] <zoddan> fuckt
[01:40] <runedude> eg. heres what i did... my account is runedude / blah123... i sudo -s type in blah123 then type passwd
[01:40] <runedude> ^.^
[01:41] <runedude> nah, sudo actually protects you from ruining system things.
[01:41] <galactic2> gtg ... be back in 10mins
[01:41] <runedude> later
[01:41] <nern> zoddan: yeah the password for sudo is the same as yer user password, if you run sudo passwd you should be able to just enter your password and then use su to login as root, but i really dont know why tou would want to since you can just do everything with sudo
[01:41] <zoddan> ah now
[01:41] <zoddan> i did that sudo thing
[01:41] <zoddan> thanks
[01:41] <runedude> yea?
[01:41] <runedude> :P np
[01:41] <qweeq> anyone knows why ubuntu crashes on boot? i was able to se the splash screen but all of a sudden my system locks up at the splash screen display. pls help
[01:42] <spanglesontoast> does lmsensors actually work?
[01:42] <nern> somebody help qweeq
[01:42] <nern> i have no clues
[01:42] <Razor-X> galactic2: get back here!
[01:42] <bur[n] er> qweeq: try a different window manager?  it work with no X?
[01:42] <bur[n] er> qweeq: you get to gdm? and just gnome halts everything?
[01:42] <runedude> qweeq: er.. perhaps a messed up /boot/grub/grub.conf ?
[01:43] <Razor-X> i'll check back in about 8 minutes, better get back to my goal of finishing three years of math in one summer now
[01:43] <PhantomFreak> Hello all... I've been trying to make a boot disc using SYSLINUX so I can install Ubuntu from a USB CD-ROM drive... It's aparently not easy, has anyone got any suggestions?
[01:43] <qweeq> anyone knows why ubuntu crashes on boot? i was able to se the splash screen but all of a sudden my system locks up at the splash screen display. pls help its LIVE CD
[01:43] <nern> bur[n] er: hes using the live cd
[01:43] <runedude> Razor-X: good luck
[01:43] <bur[n] er> oh ohoh
[01:43] <bur[n] er> f that
[01:43] <nern> bur[n] er: im pretty sure hes talking about the gnome splash
[01:43] <Razor-X> runedude: hehe ;)
[01:43] <bur[n] er> the ubuntu livecd... i've never had good luck with
[01:43] <zoddan> i cant run Xorg -configure
[01:43] <runedude> qweeq: oh..... heh, well.. it does actually take awhile for it to start up.. try hitting Escape to see if theres a debug? ;-)
[01:43] <bur[n] er> more power to you if you can get it ;)
[01:43] <transgress> run dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[01:44] <runedude> zoddan: er.. edit the config file by hand, or, do what transgress said. :P
[01:44] <nern> yeah you should just install it to the hdd ;)
[01:44] <bur[n] er> dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server is not a good LiveCD solution
[01:44] <bur[n] er> maybe for an installed system, but not from a livecd
[01:44] <transgress> oh he's on the live cd?
[01:44] <runedude> bur[n] er: he meant to zoddan
[01:44] <transgress> i see
[01:44] <runedude> oh
[01:44] <runedude> nvm
[01:44] <bur[n] er> oh :)
[01:45] <transgress> so am i
[01:45] <transgress> i just popped in
[01:45] <runedude> you all should have queue line ;-)
[01:45] <bur[n] er> in any event... back to qweeq, you using the 64 bit livecd for your amd 64?
[01:45] <runedude> 500 people shouting at the same time can be rather tedious
[01:45] <bur[n] er> or the 32 bit ubuntu?
[01:45] <nern> yes he is
[01:45] <PhantomFreak> Anyone?
[01:45] <nern> its the 64bit on a zv6000 hp laptop
[01:46] <transgress> what's your problem nern?
[01:46] <transgress> i have a very similar lappy... running ubuntu64
[01:46] <runedude> nern isnt having the problem, its qweeq 's problem. :P
[01:46] <qweeq> i tried gnoppix with it too but not worki ng
[01:46] <transgress> oh
[01:46] <runedude> qweeq: you mean Knoppix?
[01:46] <qweeq> gnoppix 0.91  think its ubuntu based distro
[01:46] <transgress> well whoever is running the damn ubuntu64...
[01:46] <qweeq> gnopix
[01:46] <poningru> anyone know a good video conversion tool?
[01:46] <spanglesontoast> is there a good place that lists all debian packages like games etc
[01:46] <runedude> er.. oh right knopix
[01:46] <poningru> like xvid ->mpeg
[01:46] <runedude> the gnome one :)
[01:47] <transgress> gnoppix is a knoppix based distro... which is a debian based distro
[01:47] <bur[n] er> gnoppix is knoppix with gnome instead of kde basically
[01:47] <qweeq> i saw ubuntu wall paper with it
[01:47] <runedude> bur[n] er: right.
[01:47] <bur[n] er> but it's not great ;)
[01:47] <runedude> qweeq: well.. lol :P
[01:47] <runedude> Actually, I prefer gnome ;)
[01:47] <bur[n] er> only livecd i get to work everywhere is kanotix
[01:47] <runedude> my gentoo liveCD worked..
[01:47] <JasonF> gnoppix is horrible
[01:47] <transgress> haha
[01:47] <nern> yeah kanotix is nice
[01:47] <transgress> of course the gentoo livecd is a shell...
[01:48] <runedude> transgress: yea, it was hard too :S
[01:48] <nern> MEPIS is my favorite liveCD though
[01:48] <bur[n] er> and it's based on gentoo... bleh ;)
[01:48] <transgress> i enjoyed the gentoo install
[01:48] <transgress> required thinking
[01:48] <runedude> transgress: yea, rofl, took me about 3 tries to get it working :)
[01:48] <nern> i dont think i could do a gentoo install
[01:48] <bur[n] er> requires reading a long document and transposing commands :\
[01:48] <lotusleaf> has anyone tried Project Bloated Glass on ubuntu?
[01:48] <poningru> so any ideas?
[01:48] <runedude> Linux mercury 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Fri May 20 13:52:48 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:48] <runedude> oops
[01:48] <runedude> wrong version :)
[01:48] <transgress> runedude: took me two.  i was really tired the first time.  next morning after a good nights sleep i did fine
[01:49] <runedude> Linux voodoo 2.6.11-gentoo-r3 #3 Mon May 23 21:09:34 EDT 2005 i686 Pentium III (Coppermine) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
[01:49] <runedude> yea, i ran mine overnight
[01:49] <PhantomFreak> Well, you lot have been pleanty of help!  :P
[01:50] <transgress> what is project looking glass?
[01:50] <spanglesontoast> where it at?
[01:50] <spanglesontoast> that java desktop?
[01:50] <runedude> gentoo is hard, thats gentoo in a nutshell, but the distro (once installed) is a really really good desktop
[01:50] <Razor-X> transgress: do you know the complete list of libraries needed to run Maxima?
[01:50] <runedude> but kde and gnome take a LONG time to compile from source
[01:51] <lotusleaf> spanglesontoast, google or I have it linked on my window managers page at: http://lotusleaf.nermal.net/linux.html
[01:51] <qweeq> pls guys
[01:51] <IIIEars> Phantomfreak - Hm - normally very friendly around here... - What was your question?
[01:51] <poningru> anyone know of vid convert tools?
[01:51] <Razor-X> runedude: Gentoo is _not_ that hard, a Stage 3 can be slept through, Stage 1's are still pretty easy if you follow the guide
[01:51] <qweeq> is ubuntu not compatible with hp
[01:51] <poningru> xdiv->mpeg
[01:51] <lotusleaf> I saw one thread about Project Looking Glass on the Ubuntu forums, was curious if anyone here has tried it.
[01:51] <transgress> Razor-X: umm what?  no.
[01:51] <poningru> qweeq: yes it is
[01:51] <runedude> yea, i did a stage 1
[01:51] <spanglesontoast> bookmarked ya
[01:51] <spanglesontoast> lol
[01:51] <runedude> wait
[01:51] <runedude> i mean stage 3
[01:51] <qweeq> hp zv6000 amd 64 i wanna run live cd
[01:51] <lotusleaf> spanglesontoast, ;P
[01:52] <qweeq> but it is crashing
[01:52] <runedude> yea, luckily, i had laptop on with the documents loaded :)
[01:52] <Razor-X> poningru: as i've noticed over time, any encoding/transcoding software on Linux is very sparse
[01:52] <othernoob> anyone know a mathematica-equivalent for linux (+gpled + for kde)
[01:52] <transgress> qweeq: hmm... sure you got the right livecd and everything right?
[01:52] <spanglesontoast> this is kinda what the site I may be building when ubuntu wants to allow my k6 to work
[01:52] <Razor-X> does anyone else know the libraries required for Maxima?
[01:52] <Razor-X> othernoob: Maxima
[01:52] <poningru> hold on razor-x
[01:52] <qweeq> transgress yes
[01:52] <qweeq>  i got hoary
[01:52] <qweeq> amd 64
[01:53] <qweeq> ubuntu-5.04-live-amd64
[01:53] <poningru> razor: did you need the libs required?
[01:53] <transgress> qweeq: what keeps crashing?
[01:53] <spanglesontoast> like most people i guess we wonder why the xpde team shot each other?
[01:53] <spanglesontoast> :P
[01:53] <qweeq> transgress it keeps crashing on the splash screen
[01:53] <Razor-X> poningru: yeah
[01:53] <othernoob> Razor-X thanks
[01:53] <Razor-X> put it on pastebin, if you can
[01:53] <transgress> qweeq: so you get dropped to a shell then?
[01:53] <lotusleaf> So I guess no one's tried Project Looking Glass on Ubuntu. Ok.
[01:53] <Razor-X> othernoob: since you're into math (i'm guessing), i'm going to try to create a math-only live cd
[01:53] <qweeq> nope
[01:54] <poningru> libgmp3
[01:54] <transgress> qweeq: what happens then?
[01:54] <qweeq> transgress it locks up the system mouse becomes unmovable
[01:54] <poningru> libncurses5
[01:54] <othernoob> Razor-X cool :) yea i like math :)
[01:54] <transgress> qweeq: tried hitting ctrl+alt+f1?
[01:54] <spanglesontoast> everyone in a way of ignoring me now
[01:54] <qweeq> and nothing really happens for about five munites
[01:54] <qweeq> minutes
[01:54] <poningru> libc4
[01:54] <anto9us> Razor-X: will it do linear programming, which I've never really understood but I know it's useful, huh?
[01:54] <poningru> err libc6
[01:54] <Razor-X> poningru: can you put it in pastebin?
[01:55] <poningru> libreadline4
[01:55] <poningru> heh I got no time sorry dude
[01:55] <lotusleaf> I propose: glass-ubuntu :)
[01:55] <Razor-X> anto9us: the goal is to have Maxima, plus a TI Emulator, and the PDRom for the TI-89
[01:55] <poningru> you can use the syn pack mngr to look it up
[01:55] <transgress> lotusleaf: you mean gubuntu?
[01:55] <poningru> bbl
[01:55] <Razor-X> and, other than that, the absolutely neccessary libraries
[01:55] <Razor-X> and the barebones Window Manager
[01:55] <lotusleaf> transgress, for project looking glass
[01:55] <qweeq> transgress any idea
[01:56] <Razor-X> the goal is to have a powerful mathematical system with you that can work on as many computers as possible
[01:56] <othernoob> Razor-X where would you release your math-livecd ?
[01:56] <Razor-X> othernoob
[01:56] <Razor-X> err
[01:56] <Razor-X> othernoob: on the net, of course
[01:56] <spanglesontoast> fvwm what do you think of it lotusleaf/
[01:56] <spanglesontoast> ?
[01:56] <othernoob> heh. of course.. but where on the net ;)
[01:56] <Razor-X> well.... what do you mean by that?
[01:56] <pwolter> hi, I just installed gvim and I don't see it under Applications....how can I do to get all then under applications?
[01:57] <othernoob> where could i get it...
[01:57] <othernoob> site?
[01:57] <othernoob> torrent?
[01:57] <qweeq> pls anyone
[01:57] <Razor-X> pwolter: you can start up a terminal, and type in 'gvim'
[01:57] <anto9us> Razor-X: so, does that mean it will do linear programming without taxing my brain too much?
[01:57] <lotusleaf> spanglesontoast, I haven't used that in a long time, fvwm
[01:57] <Razor-X> othernoob: depends if my sysadmin gives my bandwidth to post it on the sight
[01:57] <pwolter> I know, but I want to see all the soft I installed under Apps menu....
[01:57] <spanglesontoast> yea
[01:57] <spanglesontoast> but when you used it
[01:58] <Razor-X> anto9us: it's just meant to be a mathematical tool, assisting in powerful, higher-level calculations
[01:58] <spanglesontoast> did you like it/hate?
[01:58] <Razor-X> *site
[01:58] <Razor-X> if she doesen't, it's going to be torrent
[01:58] <lotusleaf> spanglesontoast, it's been so long, I don't recall.
[01:58] <lotusleaf> spanglesontoast, what do you think of it
[01:58] <qweeq> im on windows i run ubuntu launching browser it says but then it crashes. does it mean i have a bad cd
[01:58] <Razor-X> qwweq: md5sum the ISO of the CD
[01:58] <spanglesontoast> minging looks like a see through bit of plastic
[01:59] <anto9us> Razor-X: a slide rule fits that description ;)
[01:59] <qweeq> Razor-X whats a good client
[01:59] <othernoob> Razor-X and your site would be ;)
[01:59] <Lafitte-> could anyone do me a favor and tell me the version of network nonitor you have ?
[01:59] <pwolter> ok, bye gyus, thanks...
[01:59] <Lafitte-> gnome-Ubuntu
[01:59] <Razor-X> anto9us: can a slide rule tell me the derivative of a large function, and graph the original function, and it's derivative?
[02:00] <anto9us> Razor-X: no, but it can help ;)
[02:00] <spanglesontoast> just lotusleaf
[02:00] <spanglesontoast> eventally building a reviewing site of programs
[02:00] <Razor-X> anto9us: well, this will be able to do it ;)
[02:00] <Razor-X> othernoob: i'll keep that veiled until the time comes
[02:01] <rg58sma> hi
[02:01] <Lafitte-> could anyone do me a favor and tell me the version of network nonitor you have in gnome?
[02:02] <othernoob> Razor-X okay :)
[02:02] <qweeq> does ubuntu start2.exe work?
[02:02] <cfh_dev> Are there some odd flags turned on for bash in Ubuntu?  I have a shell script that won't run on my ubuntu box but does on my debian box.
[02:02] <Razor-X> and I ask again, can anyone tell me the dependancies of maxima and put it on pastebin?
[02:02] <othernoob> qweeq: heh, are you trying to use ubuntu in windows ?
[02:02] <qweeq> yes
[02:02] <Razor-X> cfh_dev: since you BASH script, go ahead and find out ;)
[02:02] <arcticblue> o.0
[02:03] <qweeq> just wondering if the cdimage i got is good
[02:03] <Razor-X> qweeq: why?
[02:03] <lotusleaf> roflcopter
[02:03] <anto9us> Razor-X: I was only teasing with the slide rule remark, no offense meant, I wish you the best for your project mate :)
[02:03] <qweeq> just wondering if the cdimage i got is good
[02:03] <rg58sma> hi someone use smeg?????
[02:03] <Razor-X> anto9us: I realize that ;)
[02:03] <arcticblue> just download qemu
[02:03] <arcticblue> qweeq: just download qemu
[02:03] <dssfilesharer_> i download ubuntu today and installed it so far with problems. I am able to see my xp laptotp on the network with ubuntu but xp cant see ubuntu, can someone help me with this problem. dont know much about linux, just started using linux. thanks for any help
[02:03] <othernoob> qweeq eh, you have to install ubuntu... if you want to know if the cd is okay, check the md5sum of the iso you downloaded
[02:03] <cfh_dev> Razor-X, I wish I could bash script.  I have something simple to put together a classpath but it dies.
[02:03] <rg58sma> hi someone use smeg?????
[02:04] <Jormundgand> dssfilesharer_: sudo apt-get install samba smbfs, then edit smb.conf to put you on the same workgroup and make a network username by following the guide.
[02:04] <jmob> rg58sma: please, repeat again, I don't think anyone heard you
[02:04] <Razor-X> cfh_dev: never too late to learn? ;)
[02:04] <dssfilesharer_> u have a good link for samba
[02:04] <rg58sma> hi someone use smeg?????
[02:04] <Razor-X> I'm ok at BASH scripting, am going to start some meaty stuff after this summer
[02:04] <cfh_dev> Razor-X, true.  I've hit the proverbial wall here though.
[02:04] <rg58sma> hi iva a problem
[02:04] <Jormundgand> rg58sma: #menueditor
[02:05] <Razor-X> as I said earlier, this summer is going to be cramming 3 years of math in one
[02:05] <cfh_dev> Razor-X, could you take a quick look at a script and give me your thoughts on it?
[02:05] <Jormundgand> dssfilesharer_: sudo apt-get install samba smbfs
[02:05] <othernoob> Razor-X since you're interested in the dependencies of maxima, wouldn't it be easier to contact the developers ?
[02:06] <Razor-X> othernoob: well, I browsed the FAQs on the site, and the answer was "To Be Made"
[02:06] <Razor-X> and, i'ld expect it to be easier to run an apt-get and figure out the dependancies
[02:06] <rg58sma> hi iva a problem
[02:06] <Razor-X> cfh_dev: ah, sorry, i'm doing some work in the background while chatting
[02:06] <rg58sma> hi someone use smeg?????
[02:07] <Fackamato> rg58sma: use one question mark only, or die
[02:07] <jmob> rg58sma: ffs stop repeating stuff
[02:07] <rg58sma> ok
[02:07] <Jormundgand> rg58sma: A small hint: It's counterproductive to be odious to a team of people who are VOLUNTEERING to help.
[02:07] <rg58sma> what fuck
[02:07] <Razor-X> jmob: Face Feminization Surgery?
[02:07] <jmob> rg58sma: if someone doesn't answer the first time it means there's probably no one around that can help
[02:08] <JasonF> for fscks sake, Razor-X
[02:08] <Razor-X> ;)
[02:08] <taomaster69> any info how 2 install tar.gz- very new to linux and ubuntu
[02:08] <jmob> rg58sma: wait more than 30 seconds to repeat the question
[02:08] <Razor-X> this is my last answer, until that one guy about GRUB and RAID comes back
[02:08] <Jormundgand> taomaster69: tar zxvf foobar.tar.gz and go from there.
[02:08] <transgress> taomaster69: let me toss you some reading material
[02:08] <Razor-X> taomaster69: generally, tar means compilation, tar is an archive, if you're ready to compile, go ahead
[02:09] <transgress> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/ taomaster69 read that
[02:09] <Razor-X> seems transgress and Jormundgand took the initiative ;)
[02:09] <taomaster69> thanx
[02:09] <Razor-X> ah well, i'll check in here for that one guy asking about GRUB on RAID
[02:09] <transgress> taomaster69: read it all.  and then read this http://www.sloppycode.net/nix/
[02:09] <arcticblue> how easy is it to make an ubuntu package out of a source tarball?
[02:09] <transgress> taomaster69: if not then we won't tell you the package you need to compile.
[02:10] <arcticblue> it would be nice to be able to compile something and have it still show up in synaptic
[02:10] <Fackamato> rg58sma: stop pasing fucking 100 lines of code in priv, OK PLEASE?
[02:10] <cfh_dev> taomaster69, to open up that archive, use tar -zxf <filename>
[02:10] <taomaster69> ok thanx
[02:11] <rg58sma> ok
[02:11] <cfh_dev> taomaster69, tar -zxvf <filename>  will print the file list on the screen as it goes through the archive
[02:11] <Razor-X> rg58sma: if you want to put a lot of code in a nice, readable form, use pastebin
[02:11] <taomaster69> ok thanx for the help
[02:13] <poningru> please if anyone has any idea of where I can look for help that would be good too
[02:13] <Razor-X> errr, I need to clean my trackball
[02:13] <poningru> what can I use to convert one vid format to another
[02:14] <Jormundgand> I want an optical mouse. I hate ball mice. :(
[02:14] <anto9us> poningru: I think vlc will output to a file in a chosen format
[02:15] <Razor-X> Jormundgand: the trackball is really easy to clean
[02:15] <rg58sma> hi someone use smeg?????
[02:15] <Razor-X> it's an optical one, but the rollers do gunk up on occasion
[02:15] <Jormundgand> Off he goes again. rg58sma: What are you trying to do when Smeg crashes.
[02:16] <Jormundgand> ?*
[02:16] <rg58sma> nothinm
[02:16] <rg58sma> http://pastebin.com/292983
[02:16] <_tony> Is there anyway to use Apt to get java?
[02:16] <rg58sma> this is the error
[02:16] <neighborlee> does anyone know if someone is working on getting a automount ( submount./supermount) system working in ubuntu and if so by when???
[02:18] <tiny_linux> helo there, so i need libdvdcss2 package somebody have it?
[02:19] <Jormundgand> tiny_linux: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[02:19] <neighborlee> tiny_linux, I believe its in universe or multiverse assuming you dont  have it enabled yet ?
[02:20] <_tony> Where is the ubuntu guide for limewire, and can you apt-get java?
[02:20] <tiny_linux> hello, there are somebody there?
[02:20] <tiny_linux>  libdvdcss2 package somebody have it?
[02:21] <tiny_linux> i give it sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 but don't found it
[02:21] <tiny_linux> maybe i have an error in my sources.list
[02:21] <tiny_linux> i think
[02:22] <_tony> did you edit you sources.list then run update
[02:22] <_tony> ?
[02:22] <tiny_linux> hey _tony read in www.ubuntuguide.org there is
[02:23] <tiny_linux> yes
[02:24] <tiny_linux> and gave me an error
[02:24] <tiny_linux> too
[02:24] <tiny_linux> by this is what i'm lookin the package for installing miself
[02:26] <Jormundgand> Hmm. Is the Flash plugin for Firefox incomplete? I never seem to get any text.
[02:28] <flipy> is there any script to start mldonkey at boot-up?
[02:30] <dssfilesharer_> is there a free antivirus program out for ubuntu like avg. thanks .
[02:30] <thundrcleeze> yes, dss
[02:30] <anto9us> flipy: you can set to start when you log in by editing your session properties
[02:30] <flipy> well, it's for a server
[02:30] <dssfilesharer_> where can i get the free antivirus at
[02:30] <flipy> so nobody will be logging
[02:31] <hikaru79> I've got a really old monitor, and I can't seem to find correct Horiz/Vert settings anywhere online so that I can get anything higher than 1024x768 resolution =/ So, just in case, does anyone here have an Orchestra Bass Drum model monitor and know it's correct configs?
[02:32] <thundrcleeze> dssfilesharer_, http://ubuntuguide.org/#installclamav
[02:32] <Th4tBa5t4rd> AVG has a linux version, i think
[02:33] <w00t3284> hi all, i have a question
[02:33] <hikaru79> What's up, w00t3284 ?
[02:33] <spanglesontoast> what other irc clients are there that use gtk?
[02:33] <w00t3284> i have a Maxtor DiamondMaxPlus9 200GB SATA HDD, and i want to know if i can run ubuntu on it
[02:33] <w00t3284> the reason i'm worried is b/c a few months ago, though knoppix would (kind of) run, nothing else would
[02:34] <w00t3284> so, does anyone know if Ubuntu supports SATA ?
[02:34] <Th4tBa5t4rd> ^^ curious as well. i have an upgrade planned
[02:34] <tim> does anyone know if there is are anymore ubuntu offshoots in development and where I can find info on them (like kubuntu) especially one for e17-ubuntu :P
[02:35] <epsas> i just ordered some free ubuntu CDs
[02:35] <w00t3284> Th4tBa5t4rd, curious about my question?
[02:35] <anto9us> flipy: see http://www.cpqlinux.com/sysinit.html
[02:35] <hikaru79> epsas, it can take QUITE a while
[02:36] <flipy> anto9us thanks
[02:36] <Th4tBa5t4rd> i could be COMPLETELY and utterly wrong, but SATA should be a driver deal. have you checked the chipset manufacturer for sata linux drivers?
[02:36] <epsas> hikaru79 - ahhh... too bad - we are hoping to get them before some people leave to go on tour
[02:37] <w00t3284> Th4tBa5t4rd, no i haven't, i'll go do that
[02:37] <w00t3284> thanks
[02:37] <w00t3284> i doubt they have it though
[02:37] <anto9us> w00t3284: I've heard people say they've installed on SATA, like Th4tBa5t4rd says though, may be dependent on chipset
[02:37] <Th4tBa5t4rd> what's your mobo manufacturer?
[02:37] <w00t3284> if you're curious it's a Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 200GB HDD
[02:37] <w00t3284> i am hoping to replace my motherboard, as i feel it is the source of many a random crash, however, for now, it is a Chaintech ZNF3-150
[02:38] <w00t3284> (i have an Athlon 64 3200+ system)
[02:38] <Th4tBa5t4rd> i'm A64 3000+
[02:38] <hikaru79> epsas, sorry =( They take a notoriously long time.
[02:38] <epsas> eek
[02:38] <nern> hey hey hey
[02:38] <w00t3284> Th4tBa5t4rd sweet
[02:38] <hikaru79> They do get here eventually though :) I'm a testament to that.
[02:38] <Th4tBa5t4rd> epas, download an iso and burn off a few copies
[02:38] <w00t3284> 64's rock
[02:38] <tiny_linux> i say it again somebody has it? libdvdcss2 package
[02:38] <tiny_linux> please i need it
[02:38] <Th4tBa5t4rd> it's pretty quick. i haven't jumped to pci express yet though
[02:39] <w00t3284> tiny_linux i don't have it, if you find a torrent i'll add myself to the swarm to help your download speeds
[02:39] <winston> Is it just me or ubuntu doesn't handle mp3s?
[02:39] <w00t3284> woah, it doesn't?
[02:39] <zenrox> tiny_linux,  read www.ubuntuguide.org for how to get it
[02:39] <dssfilesharer_> does anyone know where i can download free antivirus for ubuntu. thanks
[02:39] <othernoob> winston: it's just you ;)
[02:39] <cfh_dev> winston, in what way?  I'm listening to an mp3 now.
[02:39] <Th4tBa5t4rd> i do have a question... If I want to dual boot Xp64/Ubuntu on separate hdds, with a shared media drive, should i put it on Ubuntu's hdd and format it FAt32 during the Ubuntu insall?
[02:40] <cfh_dev> dssfilesharer_, clamav
[02:40] <dssfilesharer_> ok thanks
[02:40] <w00t3284> put what, the shared media drive?
[02:40] <Th4tBa5t4rd> yeah
[02:40] <Th4tBa5t4rd> it's just going to be a partition though
[02:40] <w00t3284> it should go like this: 1. partitino your HDD the way you want it 2. install XP 3. install Ubuntu
[02:41] <w00t3284> make sure that the shared partition is FAT32 though
[02:41] <nern> why would anyone need av with linux
[02:41] <Th4tBa5t4rd> yeah that's what i was thinking w00t
[02:41] <w00t3284> yep, according to the forum i attend, that's what the common wisdom is for dual booting *nix and *noes
[02:41] <Th4tBa5t4rd> but i am running the two OSes on separate hdds
[02:41] <othernoob> nern: for example if you have a win pc connected to your linux pc
[02:41] <anto9us> nern: for checking windows partitions/shares
[02:41] <w00t3284> Th4tBa5t4rd, that doesn't matter
[02:41] <w00t3284> just make sure the shared media partition is FAT32
[02:42] <Th4tBa5t4rd> yeah
[02:42] <nern> ahh i see
[02:42] <nern> nice
[02:42] <Th4tBa5t4rd> hope so...i'll prolly be back here cussing about nvidia drivers...that's what got me last time
[02:42] <othernoob> nern: besides that, there are virii for linux ;)
[02:42] <galactic2> razor-x im back
[02:42] <galactic2> if you'r still there
[02:42] <w00t3284> really? nvidia is supposedly way ahead of the game when compared to ati
[02:43] <w00t3284> drivers-wise, at least (for *nix)
[02:43] <tiny_linux> i found it, thank you
[02:43] <tiny_linux> by the way, somebody know where i find a tutorial about how to set up my own mail server under ubuntu
[02:43] <WX> i just installed DBD::mysql, and now I can't see any of my databases
[02:43] <Th4tBa5t4rd> yeah, but i am WAY behind the game as far as linux goes
[02:43] <tiny_linux> helo
[02:43] <galactic2> guess you arent around razorx?
[02:43] <WX> i can't login as anything except root w/o a password
[02:43] <WX> any ideas?
[02:43] <w00t3284> Th4tBa5t4rd lol
[02:43] <Th4tBa5t4rd> passwords are good for you
[02:43] <winston> cfh_dev: i dont know in which way, no progs will play mp3s
[02:44] <tiny_linux> i have winston's problem
[02:44] <tiny_linux> both
[02:44] <winston> tiny_linux: you do?
[02:44] <Th4tBa5t4rd> oh well. time to blow out some partions and reformat... yay
[02:44] <zenrox> tiny_linux, and winston  read www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:44] <whitti> Hey, I was wondering whether any of you knew of a tool to extract files from a .bin file (as in that used by some burning apps as a CD image)?
[02:45] <galactic2> grr where did razorx go?
[02:45] <crimsun> whitti: cdrdao->mount or bchunk->mount
[02:46] <whitti> crimsun: Thanks
[02:46] <rancorus> when my gdm starts and i log in, It gets stuck at a ubuntu loading image. How do i fix this?
[02:46] <nern> what did you do
[02:48] <anto9us> tiny_linux: this looks interesting for postfix mail server setup
[02:48] <cfh_dev> winston, I use xmms in kde
[02:48] <anto9us> tiny_linux: http://www.idealog.us/2004/10/helpful_guide_t.html
[02:48] <tiny_linux> both
[02:48] <tiny_linux> think so
[02:49] <winston> zenrox: are you reffering to gnump3d?? cant find package
[02:49] <w00t3284> okay guys
[02:50] <w00t3284> i can't find any Linux drivers for my HDD
[02:50] <winston> cfh_dev im in gnome and i have xmms, it just crashes when i look an mp3 or a pls
[02:50] <cumii> jhelp me
[02:50] <w00t3284> so how do i find out if the latest ubuntu release supports my hard drive?
[02:50] <hikaru79> What's wrong, cumii?
[02:50] <anto9us> w00t3284: you don't find them for the HDD but for the controller
[02:50] <cumii> how to use dcc chat on xchat?
[02:50] <cumii> im request dcc with bot
[02:50] <w00t3284> anto9us so you mean the "sil 3144" or whatever? (i dont know the model number, i'm at the office not at home)
[02:50] <cumii> but the dcc chat show on channel
[02:51] <hikaru79> You want to set up a dcc SERVER?
[02:51] <hikaru79> Ooh
[02:51] <hikaru79> You want to access a dcc server?
[02:51] <cumii> not on new tab
[02:51] <nalioth> howdy, ya'll
[02:51] <w00t3284> anto9us how do i find the number for my SATA controller if i don't have my computer infront of me?
[02:51] <cumii> yup
[02:51] <Yoda_Sabre> guys is there a way to ghost windows on linux like with mac
[02:51] <hikaru79> cumii, in the tab at the top, go to "IRC" and check all the last three entries
[02:51] <cfh_dev> winston, do you have mpg123 installed?
[02:51] <nalioth> w00t3284: how would it NOT support your HD?
[02:51] <anto9us> w00t3284: hmm.. do you know the motherboard?
[02:51] <hikaru79> The important one is "Auto Open Dialog Windows"
[02:51] <hikaru79> Then it will work :)
[02:52] <w00t3284> anto9us yes, it's a Chaintech ZNF3-150
[02:52] <Yoda_Sabre> anyone know of the way?
[02:52] <w00t3284> nalioth easily; i tried a few months ago and i couldn't install Linux; knoppix barely (kind of) worked, but it was very flaky
[02:52] <nalioth> w00t3284: simple solution: ubuntu live cd
[02:52] <cumii> ok
[02:52] <cumii> wait a second i will try dcc chat
[02:52] <jaca> hi
[02:52] <w00t3284> nalioth, but i want to install ubuntu to my hDD
[02:52] <nalioth> w00t3284: if the live cd works, so should the install
[02:53] <Yoda_Sabre> can anyone answer my question
[02:53] <anto9us> w00t3284: you should look at the chaintech website to see what sata contoller it lists then check if there's support in the kernel or if there's a module, doing a linux search for the chip in google should be revealing
[02:53] <nalioth> w00t3284: are we concerned because the HD is old? or super <psssss> new?
[02:53] <dssfilesharer_> can someone give me a link for downloading a free antivirus for ubuntu everything i do  isnt good
[02:54] <w00t3284> nalioth, new, it's a SATA drive...
[02:54] <anto9us> dssfilesharer_: clamav is in the repositories
[02:54] <w00t3284> anto9us, will do
[02:54] <cumii> thxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[02:54] <cumii> its work
[02:54] <dssfilesharer_> i am new to this. what is repositories
[02:54] <Yoda_Sabre> how you ghost a currently installed windows os in linux
[02:54] <nern> dssfilesharer: open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install clamav
[02:54] <w00t3284> k, the controller is a Sli3114 SATA RAID controller
[02:54] <othernoob> nern. do you think that will work ?
[02:54] <nalioth> w00t3284: i'd try the live cd, see if you can write to the HD
[02:55] <dssfilesharer_> ok
[02:55] <othernoob> nern i doubt he modified his sources.list yet
[02:55] <[Bond] > hey all
 i know how i'd "ghost" windoze.. .. .. .. muuwahahaha
[02:55] <nern> othernoob: oooh maybe yer right... god they should just enable universe and multiverse by default
[02:55] <w00t3284> nalioth, k, how would i write, using OpenOffice or somesuch?
[02:55] <Yoda_Sabre> i know you can do it with mac
[02:55] <anto9us> dssfilesharer_: in synaptic, it lists files from servers (repositories) which you can add/unhide by following instructions here http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:55] <Yoda_Sabre> but how you do it with linux
[02:55] <w00t3284> nalioth, and this would involve re-partiotioning the entire beast to FAT32, wouldn't it
[02:56] <nalioth> w00t3284: a simple "touch whatever" once you mount it should suffice
[02:56] <[Bond] > I just installed ubuntu "whoary," and when I try to apt-get install something, it just hangs at "99% [Working] "  any ideas?
[02:56] <othernoob> nern. yea i was wondering about that too, doesn't make sense to me
[02:56] <nalioth> w00t3284: if it is NTFS, then a repartion is in order
[02:56] <nalioth> w00t3284: you can use..
[02:56] <nalioth> msg w00t3284 partition magic <ahem> from the torrents <cough>
[02:56] <nalioth> shit
[02:57] <[Bond] > heh

[02:57] <spanglesontoast> what's so good about xine?
[02:57] <w00t3284> nalioth; don't worry, there are good (legally) free alternatives to Partition Magic
[02:57] <knucks> why is my cd ripping speed SO SLOW
[02:57] <nern> it makes little vaginas into gaping holes
[02:57] <nern> THATS whats so good about xine
[02:57] <nalioth> w00t3284: bit torrent (the program) is legal <ahem> dang cough
[02:57] <rancorus> when my gdm starts and i log in, It gets stuck at a ubuntu loading image. How do i fix this?
[02:57] <crimsun> that's pretty off-topic, nern.
[02:57] <w00t3284> nalioth, and i was going to reformat anyway (b/c i want to dual boot XP and ubuntu)
[02:57] <spanglesontoast> rite..........
[02:58] <nern> crimsum: sorry ;)
[02:58] <spanglesontoast> is it better than mplayer?
[02:58] <othernoob> knucks: have you enabled dma ?
[02:58] <knucks> how
[02:58] <nern> totem-xine is my pick as best movie player
[02:58] <w00t3284> nalioth, lol, it's fine: Ranish Partition Manager: http://www.ranish.com/
[02:58] <nalioth> w00t3284: yes i recommend at least 3gb for linux (ie ext3, reiser, whatever) and make as much space avail in fat32 as you can (i never install  a windoze users machine on ntfs)
[02:58] <anto9us> spanglesontoast: mileage varies
[02:58] <spanglesontoast> what's totem got in it?
[02:58] <w00t3284> or i could even use www.ultimatebootcd.com their UBCD
[02:58] <othernoob> knucks find out where your cdrom is (which partition
[02:58] <w00t3284> okay, so how would my partitions look like?
[02:59] <knucks> um i think its /dev/cdrom
[02:59] <Yoda_Sabre> woot iot sucks
[02:59] <anto9us> spanglesontoast: totem uses xine and gstreamer
[02:59] <nalioth> w00t3284: if keeping data is not a concern, you can use the parted that comes on the ubuntu disk
[02:59] <w00t3284> i've backed up already
[02:59] <knucks> but how do i check
[02:59] <othernoob> knucks then in a terminal type udo  hdparm  -d1  /dev/hdX  where X is your partition
[02:59] <w00t3284> does this partition table look good?
[02:59] <spanglesontoast> can It play real player stuff?
[02:59] <nalioth> w00t3284: then the ubuntu installer has several options
[02:59] <Yoda_Sabre> there is a good progream to partition witht hat loses no data
[02:59] <nalioth> w00t3284: if you're sending date, /msg me
[02:59] <nalioth> data, even
[02:59] <w00t3284> 8GB ext3 - UBUNTU; 8GB FAT32 - XP; 512MB - Linux Swap; The Rest - FAT32
[03:00] <Yoda_Sabre> aslong as there is space
[03:00] <w00t3284> na
[03:00] <w00t3284> just look above
[03:00] <nern> Yoda_Sabre: i use gparted for partitioning
[03:00] <anto9us> spanglesontoast: if the codecs are there, it can see them and it's not one of the latest rp format files/streams, yes
[03:00] <Yoda_Sabre> use partition magic
[03:00] <knucks> it seems that ripping is real uick
[03:00] <Yoda_Sabre> if your fearfully of losing files
[03:00] <knucks> its just that the encodings slow
[03:01] <nalioth> w00t3284: you know that you can symlink your linux partions onto the fat32 partition, right?
[03:01] <capi> Is there a package for GTK+2.4/2.6 I can't seem to find one?
[03:01] <Yoda_Sabre> your burner slow knucks?
[03:01] <nalioth> w00t3284: only the kernel needs to live in a linux fs
[03:01] <knucks> no
[03:01] <winston> cfh_dev: nope, not installed
[03:01] <w00t3284> nalioth, wtf does symlink mean
[03:01] <nern> my burner wont burn at higher than 24x
[03:01] <w00t3284> i've only ever (successfully) installed Mandrake
[03:01] <w00t3284> if that gives you any idea of how n00bish i am
[03:02] <crimsun> capi: installed by default
[03:02] <cfh_dev> winston, you're going to need mpg123 or something comparable to play mp3s
[03:02] <spanglesontoast> does totem have an advanced prefs?
[03:02] <capi> w00t3284 symlink means symbolic link ln -s
[03:02] <crimsun> capi: kinda difficult to run gnome without it
[03:02] <Yoda_Sabre> only mandrake?
[03:02] <nern> mandrake is terrible
[03:02] <crimsun> capi: (2.6.4)
[03:02] <anto9us> w00t3284: symlink is a bit like a windows shortcut only a proper one ;)
[03:02] <othernoob> knucks sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:02] <Yoda_Sabre> mandrake is wierd
[03:02] <capi> crimsun, I'm sure it would be by default if I didn't so a server. Do you know the package name?
[03:02] <crimsun> libgtk2.0-0
[03:02] <Yoda_Sabre> atleast it asks you to format a second hd unlink redhat7
[03:03] <othernoob> knucks there you'll see the mountpoint of your cdrom drive
[03:03] <spanglesontoast> does anyone know if lifeview is supported in linux as a tv card?
[03:03] <knucks> well ive got 3 cdrom drives
[03:03] <Yoda_Sabre> how would i ghost a windows os from linux
[03:03] <winston> cfh_dev thats not in the pkg list in synaptic
[03:04] <anto9us> spanglesontoast: see http://howtos.linux.com/howtos/BTTV/cards.shtml
[03:04] <[Bond] > any ideas on why apt would hang on me?
[03:05] <Yoda_Sabre> doesn't anyone got an idea how to ghost it?
[03:05] <[Bond] > if I ctrl-c on its "99% [working] " and then try the command again, it just hangs at "50% [Working] "
[03:05] <spanglesontoast> yea it's on there
[03:05] <spanglesontoast> what happens now?
[03:05] <Yoda_Sabre> bond could be power
[03:05] <cfh_dev> winston, you can also use lame
[03:05] <anto9us> Yoda_Sabre: you mean make a file image of the partition?
[03:06] <Yoda_Sabre> i had that when installing xp before
[03:06] <cfh_dev> winston, how did you install xmms?  What release of Ubuntu are you using?
[03:06] <Yoda_Sabre> no anto use xp through linux without loading the whole thing
[03:06] <spanglesontoast> does that mean the driver is in the kernel?
[03:06] <benjamin23> anyone here recommend me upgrading to breezy?
[03:06] <[Bond] > Yoda_Sabre: power?  as in the power supply?
[03:06] <crimsun> benjamin23: NO.
[03:06] <[Bond] > hrm
[03:06] <benjamin23> or it completely unstable?
[03:06] <crimsun> benjamin23: (read the topic again)
[03:07] <winston> cfh_dev 5.04
[03:07] <Yoda_Sabre> as in socket
[03:07] <benjamin23> ok
[03:07] <Yoda_Sabre> something was acting screwy with my powersupply on that plug
[03:07] <cfh_dev> winston, did you install xmms through apt?
[03:07] <winston> cfh_dev xmms was in the audio/video category in synaptic
[03:07] <benjamin23> crimsun, you know when 5.10 colony2 cd will be out?
[03:07] <Yoda_Sabre> witched it to a different outlet and all is fin
[03:08] <[Bond] > hm
[03:08] <Yoda_Sabre> fine*
[03:08] <anto9us> Yoda_Sabre: do you mean run windows in a virtual machine inside linux?
[03:08] <x_or> Anyone here know how to install Subversion in Apache2 from apt-get?  I cannot find the repository for libapache2-svn
[03:08] <[Bond] > I had the old server running on this outlet, but I'll try anything at this point
[03:08] <crimsun> benjamin23: no, but I presume a couple weeks.
[03:08] <crimsun> x_or: it's in universe.
[03:09] <x_or> crimsun:  Hmm, I enabled universe and multiverse, and updated, but I don't see it...
[03:09] <crimsun> x_or: I see it.
[03:09] <Yoda_Sabre> i found out the outlet cuz i took my pc to class and i had no problems
[03:09] <benjamin23> thanks
[03:09] <x_or> Hmm, I think I might have enabled security ubuntu, doh!
[03:09] <nern> breezy is prolly not a good idea right now
[03:10] <cfh_dev> winston, do you have /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libmpg123.so?
[03:10] <Yoda_Sabre> yes anto
[03:10] <Yoda_Sabre> wine does nto work for my programs though
[03:10] <x_or> Thanks crimsun.
[03:10] <Cleotis> Can someone tell me how to upgrade warty to hoary without updating the kernel version?
[03:11] <dssfilesharer_> is there a antivirus that self installs itself for ubuntu. i can not get it to install at all. trying to do clamav but says there is no package
[03:11] <Yoda_Sabre> im kina stuck with aohell and noe of the programs i tried could use that
[03:11] <cesar_> hi all , there is a program to edit the fstab ? , in a graphical way ?
[03:11] <crimsun> Cleotis: put your linux metapackage(s) on hold
[03:11] <spanglesontoast> anything better than gaim?
[03:12] <nern> no
[03:12] <anto9us> dssfilesharer_: did you look the link I gave you about adding repositories?
[03:12] <nern> gaim is the best of the best
[03:12] <Yoda_Sabre> what version is hoary?
[03:12] <spanglesontoast> 5.04?
[03:12] <winston> cfh_dev yes!! i have that one
[03:12] <dssfilesharer_> which link
[03:12] <dssfilesharer_> been trying everything
[03:12] <nern> yeh 5.04
[03:12] <Cleotis> crumsun: not sure what you mean
[03:13] <Yoda_Sabre> look up
[03:13] <cfh_dev> winston, that's the plugin you need to play mp3s in xmms
[03:13] <anto9us> dssfilesharer_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:13] <dssfilesharer_> cool. thanks alot
[03:13] <crimsun> Cleotis: what cpu?
[03:13] <spanglesontoast> that was a random guess
[03:13] <cesar_> winston , if you whant , you can use mplayer , it another media player
[03:13] <crimsun> Cleotis: and, did you install any optimised kernel?
[03:13] <cesar_> mplayer can play video and mp3 , it just a little tricky to make it work
[03:13] <Cleotis> crimsun: warty generic i386 32bit on amd64
[03:14] <crimsun> Cleotis: dpkg -l linux-386 |grep ^ii
[03:14] <Yoda_Sabre> anto know any way to do what i want without wine?
[03:14] <Cleotis> crimsun: ii  linux-386      <IP_ADDRESS>-13     Complete Linux kernel on 386.
[03:15] <spanglesontoast> what you trying to do yoda?
[03:15] <anto9us> Yoda_Sabre: check qemu
[03:15] <Yoda_Sabre> run xp from linux
[03:15] <spanglesontoast> oh dear
[03:15] <Yoda_Sabre> wine is a failure at running my progs
[03:15] <spanglesontoast> what you want to run
[03:15] <Yoda_Sabre> they don't start
[03:16] <spanglesontoast> yea
[03:16] <spanglesontoast> what are you trying to run
[03:16] <Yoda_Sabre> the latest one does that
[03:16] <spanglesontoast> what apps?
[03:16] <Yoda_Sabre> isp
[03:16] <anto9us> Yoda_Sabre: a little tip, if you type a person's full nick then they're less likeley to miss questions from you :)
[03:16] <Yoda_Sabre> and some other progs
[03:16] <spanglesontoast> internet service provider?????
[03:16] <Yoda_Sabre> aohell
[03:17] <Yoda_Sabre> im going to pay for a better one when i got the money
[03:17] <monchy> you poor soul
[03:17] <nern> wow
[03:17] <nern> yer already paying if you use aol
[03:17] <spanglesontoast> well I have cedega but that's mainly for games......
[03:17] <nern> damn
[03:17] <othernoob> nern dont state the obvious ;)
[03:17] <Yoda_Sabre> no im not
[03:17] <Yoda_Sabre> someone else is
[03:18] <spanglesontoast> oh is he using aol
[03:18] <Yoda_Sabre> there is multiple accounts you kow
[03:18] <spanglesontoast> hahahahahahaha
[03:18] <spanglesontoast> hahahahahahha
[03:18] <anto9us> Yoda_Sabre: there's an AOL dialer specifically for linux out there somewhere
[03:18] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> can't seem to find gstreamer0.8-lame on the repositories
[03:18] <Yoda_Sabre> it does not work
[03:18] <spanglesontoast> is it clockword/
[03:18] <spanglesontoast> *work
[03:18] <Yoda_Sabre> i tried it
[03:18] <nern> i think i just threw up in my mouth a little bit
[03:18] <crimsun> Cleotis: put that on hold
[03:18] <nalioth> Pop_pa_FrEaK: have u enabled the repositories?
[03:19] <nern> when the word aol was uttered
[03:19] <pfp> Pop_pa_FrEaK: backports
[03:19] <winston> cfh_dev cesar_ am trying to reinstall xmms with appropriate pluggins
[03:19] <anto9us> Yoda_Sabre: I think you'll be very lucky getting it to work through any kind of emulation
[03:19] <nalioth> Pop_pa_FrEaK: better to build from source, than get backports
[03:19] <Yoda_Sabre> i call it aohell for good reason
[03:19] <spanglesontoast> oh we called it much worse
[03:19] <novaflare> yoda_sabre why not just use a normal dialup connection for aol? Or do you need aols add ons (or want them)?
[03:19] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> doh!! thought I forgot something thanx guys
[03:19] <Yoda_Sabre> there should be one somewere
[03:19] <anto9us> Yoda_Sabre: see http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAOL.html
[03:20] <nern> i pay 30 dollars a month for cable
[03:20] <Yoda_Sabre> im not using by chioce it is either this or no internet
[03:20] <nern> isnt that about how much aol is?
[03:20] <monchy> what about satellite internet?
[03:20] <Yoda_Sabre> fastnet is worse then aohell which is funny
[03:20] <alex_> hmm, can anyone help? every time i try to switch into administrator mode in kubuntu it doesn't work, it just hangs. also, whenever i try to do anything sudo in konsole, i get the message: "unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname". what should i do? please help!
[03:20] <spanglesontoast> I guess your lucky moving to linux
[03:21] <Cleotis> crimsun: Not sure how to do that, any pointers for putting it on hold?
[03:21] <Yoda_Sabre> aol is 26 if you got unlimited
[03:21] <Jormundgand> alex_: #kubuntu
[03:21] <alex_> ahh
[03:21] <spanglesontoast> if you were on windows you would be in the arms of their messed up browser
[03:21] <alex_> woops
[03:21] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> still can't find it
[03:21] <will__> hello
[03:21] <anto9us> alex_: are you completely sure it's hung and there's not a dialog hidden somewhere asking for a password?
[03:21] <spanglesontoast> 30 for an 8mb yay
[03:21] <will__> can i ask a question here?
[03:21] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> did ubuntu drop mp3 support ?
[03:21] <alex_> yup
[03:21] <Yoda_Sabre> screw IE
[03:21] <cesar_> Yoda_Sabre: i will preffer use internet in the house of a friend, that use AOL :P
[03:21] <Jormundgand> Pop_pa_FrEaK: It had MP3 support to start with?
[03:22] <Yoda_Sabre> i use firefox as my defualt browser
[03:22] <Jormundgand> will__: No, questions are banned.
[03:22] <anto9us> will__: you just did but don't worry, you're not on a quota ;)
[03:22] <nern> all you need to do to get mp3 suppot is download a couple of packages though
[03:22] <pfp> alex_: add your hostname to /etc/hosts, on the line that begins with <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:22] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> no Jormundgand it doesn't by default you need to add lame codec
[03:22] <Yoda_Sabre> anto i tried using that it did not work worth a damn
[03:22] <alex_> okay
[03:22] <spanglesontoast> I'm wondering is there a version of a dialer for aol for windows
[03:22] <winston> cfh_dev cesar_ am ok still wont work, xmms freezes when i click play
[03:22] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> but for some reason I can't install it from the repositories
[03:22] <Jormundgand> Pop_pa_FrEaK: I know that. But you made it sound like it had it by default once and now doesn't.
[03:22] <alex_> hmm it says i don't have enough privileges...
[03:23] <Yoda_Sabre> aol has a dialer on windows
[03:23] <othernoob> spanglesontoast: you think you'll find an aol user here? ;)
[03:23] <will__> im a TOTAL linux noob - i just downloaded the newest version of firefox (it was a tar.gz) i extracted it, but now i dont know what to do
[03:23] <pfp> alex_: oh yes, you need sudo or root access for that ;/
[03:23] <alex_> ya...
[03:23] <spanglesontoast> no
[03:23] <alex_> :(
[03:23] <cesar_> winston: hmmm , if you are in a mood to try , check this page . . .
[03:23] <othernoob> will__ is there a readme ?
[03:23] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> no I was just wondering if they had as alot of distros are dropping mp3 for licensing reasons
[03:23] <will__> no
[03:23] <Yoda_Sabre> does not load the whole program just enough to connect and use a browser like firefox
[03:23] <Jormundgand> will__: You don't need that. Get it from the repos.
[03:23] <spanglesontoast> just wondering so my mate can use it without the browser
[03:23] <nern> will_do you have ubuntu installed?
[03:23] <cesar_> winston: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/index.html
[03:23] <will__> haha yes
[03:23] <anto9us> Yoda_Sabre: then I've no ideas for you other than discouraging you from wasting time with trying to use emulation. I've not heard of that working... best option is an old machine acting as a proxy for you
[03:23] <cesar_> winston: or just put mplayer in uncle google
[03:23] <nern> will_ because it should be installed with ubuntu
[03:24] <will__> yeah i know but its 1.0.2
[03:24] <will__> and the most current version is 1.0.4
[03:24] <Jormundgand> will__: They backport the bugfixes.
[03:24] <will__> ?backport?
[03:24] <nern> will_ EXACTLY
[03:24] <Jormundgand> will__: Change the versionSub setting in about:config to 1.0.4 and cheat your way into the extensions section.
[03:24] <cesar_> winston: i you try mplayer , just check carefully the installing tutorials , good luck !
[03:24] <will__> hmm :/
[03:25] <will__> is that the only way?
[03:25] <Yoda_Sabre> they have done it for macs there might be one for linux out there
[03:25] <knucks> ok i cant get mp3 encoder working
[03:25] <winston> cesar_ i used mplayer in a knoppix system i had, will try it
[03:25] <nern> will_ the first thing to do now that you are using linux is try to get out of the windows program management mindset, when using ubuntu or another debian based distro you almost never have to download programs from a website
[03:25] <knucks> it tells me to install the gstreamer0.8-lame but tells me libc6 depends on some pacakge i cannot find
[03:25] <spanglesontoast> how do I get rid of recent stuff in places for good
[03:25] <will__> : o
[03:25] <spanglesontoast> *recent documents
[03:25] <will__> i had no idea >_<
[03:25] <anto9us> Yoda_Sabre: aah, I'm with you now, you've had it working as far as it's meant to. It just gives a connection.
[03:26] <nern> you can also get 1.0.4 going by either using the ubuntu backports or adding a sid repo and installing it from there
[03:26] <cesar_> will__: you can use the synaptic upgrade manager . . . i update my firefox in that way
[03:26] <Yoda_Sabre> i got no connection with it period
[03:26] <anto9us> Yoda_Sabre: emulation of the AOL software set to connect through tcp/ip is now a viable option
[03:27] <anto9us> Yoda_Sabre: firefox worked?
[03:27] <iceman> crap ... tried installing sshserver on my wifes pc ... on a ubuntu install
[03:27] <Yoda_Sabre> xp is getting annoying  but the programs i got are good ones just they are xp
[03:27] <Yoda_Sabre> firefox is great
[03:27] <cesar_> will__ or just click in the upgrade manager of ubuntu , they let you dl the newest firefox version
[03:27] <iceman> now i cannot start gnome or kde ..
[03:28] <Yoda_Sabre> peng does not work with my aol program for some reason
[03:28] <knucks> anyone?
[03:28] <shido6> what can I use in ubuntu to partition a disk?
[03:28] <anto9us> Yoda_Sabre: did it connect to the internet for you?
[03:28] <shido6> the xp partition is active and Im scared if I blow it away Im going to loose grub
[03:28] <Yoda_Sabre> no
[03:28] <shido6> and making a bootdisk doesnt seem to work
[03:28] <spanglesontoast> is there a way to get rid of the recent documents bit on places?
[03:28] <nern> cesar_  no it wont upgrade him to 1.0.4 because ubuntu rather than changing the version number just backports the security patches to 1.0.2, so if he wants to get 1.0.4 he will need to either change his repos or do what Jormundgand said
[03:28] <shido6> too big to fit on a floppy
[03:29] <othernoob> shido6 qtparted
[03:29] <shido6> unless you know how to make a boto disk .iso
[03:29] <Yoda_Sabre> shido just doing mess with the xp partition and your fine
[03:29] <nalioth> shido6: qtparted or parted (command line)
[03:29] <anto9us> Yoda_Sabre: you said it connected and you used firefox didn't you?
[03:29] <Yoda_Sabre> i got a dualboot on here
[03:29] <nalioth> shido6: if data loss is no problem, use fdisk
[03:29] <Yoda_Sabre> 20gig linux 60gig xp
[03:29] <cesar_> nern: thanks ! , i doesnt know that :P
[03:29] <shido6> windows is 112 GB , I initially installed ubuntu as a 2ndary os
[03:29] <Yoda_Sabre> no i use firefox on xp
[03:29] <shido6> now that windows is screwed because of some virus
[03:29] <shido6> my partition is useless
[03:30] <shido6> so i want to use it for ubuntu as well
[03:30] <Yoda_Sabre> aol is the isp i got
[03:30] <shido6> for storage
[03:30] <knucks> anyone ? why cant i rip mp3s
[03:30] <nern> cesar_ :)
[03:30] <Yoda_Sabre> it does not work with peng
[03:30] <shido6> yeah I should use fdisk, do it old school, thanks nalioth
[03:30] <Yoda_Sabre> shido wait
[03:30] <shido6> how do I make a bootdisk first, tho
[03:30] <nern> nooooo
[03:30] <shido6> :)
[03:30] <nern> yeah
[03:30] <Yoda_Sabre> use partition magic
[03:30] <nern> wait
[03:31] <Yoda_Sabre> partition magic does not kill your files
[03:31] <spanglesontoast> is there a way to get rid of the recent documents bit on places?
[03:31] <shido6> partition magic ? boot from the cd, delete the partition? it says its an active parittion and I have to make some other partition active
[03:31] <winston> cesar_ cfh_dev tried reinstalling xmms with pluggins, still freezes when i try to load a file-- will try mplayer
[03:31] <Yoda_Sabre> but shindo did you try the online scans
[03:31] <hawat> hello all
[03:31] <walid> hi
[03:31] <walid> i am just install ubuntu
[03:31] <knucks> HELP anyone
[03:31] <will__> How can I take all my AAC's off my iPod, and copy them onto my Ubuntu dis?
[03:31] <will__> k
[03:31] <nern> if you want to completely redo yer partitions and start from scratch i like to use the MEPIS livecd which includes qtparted which is a pretty nice parition program, then you can reboot and install windows and then ubuntu
[03:32] <Yoda_Sabre> shindo partition magic moves files to the new partition of the one they use
[03:32] <walid> so can some one tell me how to update it
[03:32] <walid> ?
[03:32] <Razor-X> shido6: delete the main partition, create two new ones, one with just plain free space in it, and the other with NTFS on it
[03:32] <walid> can some one hel me pleas?
[03:32] <winston> cesar_ cfh_dev am starting to think its my sound card
[03:32] <Yoda_Sabre> you might not need to erase windows at all
[03:32] <Razor-X> if you want to double boot Ubuntu and Windows XP, that is
[03:32] <walid> that is simpel
[03:32] <Yoda_Sabre> check it using panda or trendmirco
[03:32] <cesar_> winston: you dont hear any sound ?
[03:33] <hawat> question: does kernel recognize xeon processor?
[03:33] <Yoda_Sabre> razor partition magic will move his windows files
[03:33] <cesar_> winston: because i have the samen problem , i dont have sound in ubuntu , i event have tried to install any mediaplayer , LOL
[03:33] <Yoda_Sabre> i used it before
[03:33] <walid> i wana update the seysteem can some one help me pleas
[03:33] <capi> Is there a way I can include a file when ./configuring an item? For example instead of `./configre --lots --of --things=/to/enter' `./configre <file>' ? Or any other way to save all the typing for long configs
[03:33] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> anyone knw of a tutorial for adding musepack encoding ?
[03:33] <cesar_> winston: i remember mplayer because i used it in Fedora
[03:34] <winston> cesar_ i do hear sound on ogg, i guess your right
[03:34] <will__> How can I copy all my AAC's from my iPod onto my Ubuntu harddisk?
[03:34] <winston> cesar I get a short noise everytime i open and clos a sound prog
[03:34] <Cleotis> crimsun: I figured it out, thank you for your help
[03:34] <Jormundgand> will__: As I told you, Ubuntu will treat the iPod like a memory stick.
[03:35] <Razor-X> capi: jusw write a script with ./configure --lots --of --things=/to/enter'
[03:35] <winston> cesar_ does mplayer work for you in ubuntu?
[03:35] <Razor-X> `./configre <file>'
[03:35] <will__> hes but the AAC part
[03:35] <Razor-X> and then run the script itself
[03:35] <Jormundgand> It'll recognise the files.
[03:35] <cesar_> winston: same as i, but my sound card (a cmedia chip) is not suported by ubuntu at all :P
[03:35] <Jormundgand> But look at the restricted formats wiki page to see if you need a package so Ubuntu understands the AAC files as music.
[03:35] <cesar_> winston: nop , it worked great in Fedora , but Fedora is  Redhat like distribution
[03:36] <nern> its not hard to get yer multimedia fully functional in ubuntu
[03:37] <cesar_> nern: hmm , do you think there is a way to solve my sound problem ?
[03:37] <winston> cesar_ do you get any sound ? like beeps and chirps login sound etc?
[03:37] <cesar_> nern: im just waiting to buy another sound card , i have tried everything
[03:38] <will__> can i get a link for restricted formats in the wiki?
[03:38] <will__> am i asking that right?
[03:38] <cesar_> winston: not a single wistle ;) , but that help me to work , i dont loose time chosing mp3
[03:38] <bratsche> cesar from #mono?
[03:38] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> anyone know how to install musepack libs ?
[03:38] <gopher3234> mp3 playback for xmms?
[03:38] <nern> cesar_: if yer sound card was supported by fedora then linux can support it, you just may have to go through the trouble of compiling yer own kernel
[03:38] <winston> cesar_ lol I guess we dont hav the same prob then, cause i get system sounds and all
[03:39] <blueyed> will__: just use the wiki search function.
[03:39] <winston> gopher3234 yeah you have a prob playing mp3s??
[03:39] <cesar_> bratsche: nop , im in a newly linux user , im on my 3rd month
[03:39] <will__> wheres that :-[
[03:39] <gopher3234> yes
[03:39] <winston> gopher3234 same here
[03:39] <bratsche> cesar_: Ah, cool.  Well it's great to have you all the same. :)
[03:40] <winston> gopher3234 what prog u use?
[03:40] <anto9us> nern: compilation shouldn't be necesary under ubuntu, everything is in modules
[03:40] <gopher3234> Xmms?
[03:40] <cesar_> nern: like . . . get my kernel , and then select my packages ??
[03:40] <gopher3234> winston, XMMS
[03:40] <anto9us> cesar_: what is the chip of your cmedia?
[03:40] <nern> anto9us: its just weird like if it was supported in fedora shouldnt ubuntu support it too, i mean its all the same linux
[03:41] <blueyed> will__: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrontPage/searchwiki
[03:41] <Razor-X> damned greek alphabet... can't stand it!
[03:41] <blueyed> will__: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:41] <winston> gopher3234 same here, Mine freezes when i try to play mp3s or .pls
[03:41] <cesar_> anto9us: CMI9761
[03:41] <gopher3234> winston, yes. same problem
[03:41] <Razor-X> anto9us: there are definite advantages to compilation over modules
[03:41] <cesar_> anto9us: its a sound card integrated to the motherboard
[03:41] <gopher3234> ive been asking my linux peoples, so then one referred me to "Get the fuck on IRC"
[03:41] <gopher3234> so i'm like : kk
[03:42] <nern> cesar_: you dont want to do it.... there isnt even a kernel-image in the ubuntu repos let alone another kernel-source, so if you wanted to do it you would have to get the source elsewhere and it would just be a big mess.
[03:42] <nern> yeah
[03:42] <will__> blueyed: thanks ;)
[03:42] <nern> i just got on here for the first time last night gopher3234
[03:42] <metalsand> What's the fastest booting Linux live CD?
[03:42] <nern> similiar situation here
[03:42] <nern> DSL
[03:43] <nern> Damn Small Linux has got to be the fastest booting linux live cd
[03:43] <Razor-X> i'm gonna remaster it myself, soon enough
[03:43] <metalsand> Hrmm, does it support video playback?
[03:43] <rizla> hi
[03:43] <blueyed> hi rizla  ;)
[03:43] <metalsand> Remaster DSL, Razor-X?
[03:43] <mark_> hi
[03:43] <Razor-X> metalsand: there's a Live CD that boots up staright into MPlayer and can play a file in a directory
[03:43] <rizla> what package i have to install to view .rm files with totem?
[03:43] <Razor-X> metalsand: yeahp
[03:44] <nalioth> metalsand: nern, thats a good ???, since most of the live cds run the knoppix model startup
[03:44] <anto9us> Razor-X: yes, swings and roundabouts though I suppose :)
[03:44] <metalsand> Razor-X: No way!
[03:44] <cesar_> nern: i check in the web, and the problems seems to be the ALSA , cmedia send my to the ALSA webpage, and ALSA dont support my soundcard , ho ho ho ho.
[03:44] <Razor-X> metalsand: yes way ;)
[03:44] <metalsand> Incoming querey, Razor-X
[03:44] <winston> gopher3234 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35734
[03:44] <Razor-X> metalsand: mmmkay
[03:44] <nern> nalioth: im not sure i know what you mean by thats a good ???
[03:45] <gopher3234> <3
[03:45] <rizla> Razor-X: i'd like to view .rm files with totem. what pack do i need?
[03:45] <nern> i always have like the MEPIS livecd even though it uses kde
[03:45] <nalioth> nern, if all live cds boot using the knoppix boot sequencer, shouldnt they all be about the same time loading?
[03:45] <phxguy> Can anybody help me with a problem im having running Acrobat reader
[03:45] <shido6> ok
[03:45] <shido6> 112 GB gone
[03:45] <Razor-X> rizla: not sure, not a totem user myself
[03:45] <shido6> I dont want to reboot
[03:45] <pfp> rizla: win32codecs i thnk
[03:45] <shido6> how do I add a ntfs partition in ubuntu
[03:45] <Razor-X> I use VLC, it can handle just about any format
[03:45] <rizla> ok, thanx
[03:45] <nalioth> phxguy: use xpdf or kpdf
[03:46] <rizla> can you see .rm files with vlc?
[03:46] <venezolano> ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAOL??????????????????
[03:46] <nern> nalioth, yeah i suppose but then DSL doesnt have to load gnome or kde, it just has to load fluxbox
[03:46] <cesar_> shido6: look for the ntfs project
[03:46] <blueyed> KJHKJ ZAUIH KJA SLKUJ, venezolano ? ;)
[03:46] <shido6> hrmm
[03:46] <Razor-X> venezolano: I don't mean to disrespect, but all Spanish speakers tend to do that when tehy enter a channel
[03:46] <nalioth> nern: so you shave a few seconds off the X progs loading
[03:46] <cesar_> shido6: they make a way to see the ntfs file system, but you cannot  modify the files
[03:47] <Razor-X> venezolano: please teach the others who do that some manners, and no, no hablamos espanol
[03:47] <venezolano> OK THANKS
[03:47] <rizla> Razor-X: can you see .rm files with vlc?
[03:47] <anto9us> cesar_: there's a bugzilla entry for your cmedia problem https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7997
[03:47] <nalioth> shido6: why would you want to desecrate your ubuntu by messing with ntfs?
[03:47] <Razor-X> rizla: I'm pretty sure, not hundred-percent on that
[03:47] <pfp> some repo even has a "real" realplayer but i havent tried it
[03:47] <nern> nalioth: i suppose, i was just trying to answer the guys question, he wanted to know what the fastest one was, not the best. I personally dont like DSL, becuase it never detects my ethernet card.
[03:47] <cesar_> Venezolano: hola ! , hay un canal llamado ubuntu-es creo , donde hablan espaol , suerte !
[03:47] <Razor-X> rizla: VLC is kickass, it can play almost any format out of the box
[03:47] <cody> I installed unrar and I can't unrar a .rar, it just fails for every file
[03:47] <nalioth> rizla: you can see older .rm files anywhwere, as long as you have the w32codecs
[03:47] <cesar_> anto9us: Great ! , thanks a lot :D
[03:47] <venezolano> GRACIAS
[03:47] <rizla> i can't..
[03:48] <blueyed> cody: try the rar package.
[03:48] <nern> real player for linux isnt supposed to near as horrific as the windows version
[03:48] <pfp> cody: 'rar x foo.rar' ?
[03:48] <Razor-X> cesar_: I thought this was an all-English channel?
[03:48] <spanglesontoast> anyone know amsn where I convert is once I have install imagemagick
[03:48] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> rizla do this in console --->sudo apt-get install realplayer
[03:48] <rizla> i already have realplayer
[03:48] <cesar_> nailoth: probably shido have the same situation that me , i have 20 gigs of mp3 in a ntfs hdd system
[03:48] <rizla> but i haven't w32codecs..
[03:49] <cody> doesnt work pfp, i installed unrar, not rar.. do I need to install the rar program as well?
[03:49] <rizla> perhaps i have to add some repository?
[03:49] <Razor-X> spanglesontoast: locate imagemagick
[03:49] <nalioth> nern: i don't use any of them, i run a iBook, just pointing out the boot sequence is pretty much the same on all
[03:49] <cesar_> Razor-X: yup , thats why i send him to the spanish channel ;)
[03:49] <Razor-X> metalsand: you mean, streamed data?
[03:49] <anto9us> night all
[03:49] <Razor-X> cesar_: ahh, good job ;)
[03:49] <nalioth> rizla: search ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ for 'restricted formats"
[03:49] <Razor-X> I've memorized the words for "We don't speak Spanish" ;)
[03:49] <nern> nalioth: i love you.......
[03:49] <winston> gopher3234 it hasnt done anything for me.
[03:49] <rizla> ok, thanx a lot nalioth
[03:50] <spanglesontoast> didn't work in terminal
[03:50] <gopher3234> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:50] <Razor-X> nern: use VLC, it can play almost every restricted format
[03:50] <gopher3234> winston, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats    I'm reading around
[03:50] <nalioth> cesar_: ?no hablamos espanol acqu? NO!
[03:50] <gopher3234> VLC is a piece of shit.
[03:50] <gopher3234> i used it on FC3
[03:50] <gopher3234> haated it.
[03:50] <Razor-X> gopher3234: how can you hate VLC?!
[03:50] <dssfilesharer_> i have tried everything for antivirus. but i cant get nothing to work. is there one that will install itself instead of all this command line stuff. thanks
[03:50] <cody> VLC is awesome
[03:50] <gopher3234> but if you can't get anything else working, get it
[03:50] <cesar_> i can show you some ways to do that, i live in Mexico and spanish is my natural lenguage :P
[03:50] <gopher3234> XMMS>VLC so hard
[03:50] <Razor-X> gopher3234: psshhh, no other Media Player comes _close_
[03:50] <nern> Razor-x: im not having the problem...i believe that it is rizla
[03:50] <nalioth> dssfilesharer_: why do you need a antivirus? linux has no known virii
[03:51] <Razor-X> can you do a network stream of your desktop from XMMS?
[03:51] <Razor-X> I think _not_!
[03:51] <cody> I use BMP for mp3's
[03:51] <cody> VLC for videos
[03:51] <dssfilesharer_> cool so i dont need , lol. all this trouble for nothing. thanks
[03:51] <nalioth> cesar_: were you addressing me with your last statement?
[03:51] <cody> BMP is very wicked
[03:51] <Razor-X> I use VLC for Audio and Video ;)
[03:51] <Razor-X> what's BMP?
[03:51] <Razor-X> BitMaP? ;)
[03:51] <nern> dssfilesharer: yeah you dont have to worry about spyware or virii in linux
[03:51] <cody> BMP is Beep Media Player
[03:52] <nalioth> dssfilesharer_: clamav exists so that (if we are courteus) we can scan our files b4 sending them to mom on her windoze box
[03:52] <nern> BMP is pretty much a winamp clone... its better than XMMS though
[03:52] <cesar_> nalioth: nop , i was adressing Razor-X , about ways to say "go to the spanish channel , we dont speak spanish here"
[03:52] <cody> http://www.sosdg.org/~larne/w/BMP_Homepage
[03:52] <Razor-X> cody: can it play everything out-of-the-box, like VLC?
[03:52] <nalioth> cesar_: ah, i usually send folks to their respective language chans
[03:52] <rizla> and.. does somebody know how to stop "free the fish"?
[03:53] <Razor-X> we should add the language links to the topic
[03:53] <nalioth> cesar_: i drive a taxi in Houston, Tx, and speak a little bit spanish <lol>
[03:53] <cody> Razor-X: I don't know, I havent tried it with videos yet.
[03:53] <Razor-X> cody: can it play audio out-of-the-box?
[03:53] <cody> It can play audio, yes.
[03:53] <cody> No plugins requited, like xmms
[03:53] <ccc> BMP plays audio only.
[03:53] <nalioth> Razor-X: beep media player is a fork of xmms
[03:53] <dssfilesharer_> ok. is there a popup blocker for linux and spyware software or isnt that needed either. thanks
[03:53] <Razor-X> cody: mmm, I see
[03:54] <xuser_> Okay.
[03:54] <Razor-X> I don't know... hmmm....
[03:54] <nalioth> dssfilesharer_: i recommend a good "hosts" file and firefox
[03:54] <roxville> get the unofficial ubuntu add-on cd. it has most of the extras you need
[03:54] <Razor-X> should I give up VLC for audio....
[03:54] <spanglesontoast> what is that a dumb question asking if linux get spyware
[03:54] <cody> Yes, You should
[03:54] <cody> BMP is much better, And much nicer.
[03:54] <cesar_> nailoth: lol , thats a work where you can learn a lot of things right ? ;)
[03:54] <nalioth> Razor-X: vlc is the only thing that plays aacplus (www.tuner2.com)
[03:54] <dssfilesharer_> what do u mean by a good host. i am new to linux
[03:54] <ccc> xmms = ugly winamp-clone. bmp = nicer looking winamp-clone :)
[03:54] <Razor-X> cody: ok then, I think i'll try it on Windows, right now
[03:54] <nalioth> cesar_: si senor
[03:55] <Razor-X> ccc: but Winamp needs codecs
[03:55] <`psycho> hi ppls
[03:55] <dssfilesharer_> wher edo you get unofficial ubunu ad-on cd
[03:55] <`psycho> having issues with torsmo
[03:55] <`psycho> can somebody help pls?
[03:55] <Razor-X> cesar_: I learn my bits of Spanish from San Jose, California ;)
[03:55] <cody> :)
[03:55] <Razor-X> one of the unjotted HS grad requirements is the ability to curse in at least three languages, unincluding your native tongue
[03:55] <spanglesontoast> how do I install .bin
[03:55] <Razor-X> of course, I can already do about 6 ;)
[03:55] <cesar_> nailoth Razos-X : lol , i work in a museum in Mexico , we have a lot of turist people , so i can work my english :D
[03:56] <nalioth> spanglesontoast: ./filename.bin
[03:56] <winston> cesar_ i found it
[03:56] <winston> not your prob, but in case your wondering
[03:56] <ccc> Razor-X: the best audio player if you have a big collection and want implemented audioscrobbler is amaroK. actually, it has to be the best audio player ever for any platform. :)
[03:56] <ian> hello ppl..
[03:56] <nalioth> cesar_: esta 70% latino en houston, tenga muchos clientes latino
[03:56] <`psycho> tersmo-issues-help?
[03:56] <`psycho> :D
[03:56] <cody> amarok? never heard of it.
[03:56] <ian> how do i install a *.deb ?
[03:56] <winston> cesar_ switching output in the preferences of xmms does the trick
[03:56] <spanglesontoast> sudo: ./amsn-0.94-3-linux-installer.bin: command not found
[03:57] <rizla> it works!
[03:57] <Razor-X> ian: sudo dpkg -i xxx.deb
[03:57] <rizla> i've installe w32codecs and it works!
[03:57] <rizla> thanx to everybody
[03:57] <rizla> goodnight
[03:57] <Razor-X> ccc: can it play audio without codecs?
[03:57] <nalioth> spanglesontoast: chmod +x filename.bin
[03:57] <ccc> cody: http://amarok.kde.org/
[03:57] <`psycho> a little help please? :)
[03:57] <nalioth> spanglesontoast: that makes it executable, then run the ./filename.bin
[03:57] <Razor-X> I know Kubuntu comes with AmaroX
[03:58] <Razor-X> *Amarok
[03:58] <nalioth> you don't need kubuntu for amarok
[03:58] <ccc> Razor-X: no, the codecs are not built in, but i prefer that.
[03:58] <cesar_> winston: great ! , i found a treat about my sound card . . .
[03:58] <Razor-X> nalioth: I know that
[03:58] <Razor-X> ccc: not for me then ;)
[03:58] <spanglesontoast> best to install as sudo?
[03:59] <ccc> it comes with a bunch of codecs though
[03:59] <cody> Damnit all, I still can't figure out this stupid RAR Thing
[03:59] <[Spooky] > what firewall do you guys recomend ?
[03:59] <ccc> i think
[03:59] <ian> when i have installed a .deb . error occured. dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kiax:
[03:59] <ian>  kiax depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4); however:
[03:59] <ian>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[03:59] <ian> how do i resolve this problem?
[03:59] <nalioth> [Spooky] : the builtin one
[03:59] <Razor-X> ian: why use .deb, why not use apt-get?
[03:59] <nalioth> spanglesontoast: if you trust the source, or it is a system proggy (or both)
[03:59] <spanglesontoast> ah ok
[03:59] <[Spooky] > nalioth: witch is called ?
[03:59] <ian> Razor-X: ok.. how would i do that? im really new in linux..
[04:00] <nalioth> [Spooky] : iptables, i believe
[04:00] <[Spooky] > nalioth: ok how do i use it ?
[04:00] <j1m33> i really enjoy m0n0wall, but that would require an additional box. http://www.m0n0.ch
[04:00] <nalioth> [Spooky] : go to newsforge.com and read down a little bit, there was an article on mangling yer linux fw2
[04:00] <nalioth> [Spooky] : managing your linux firewall
[04:01] <Razor-X> j1m33: for that, I prefer Smoothwall
[04:01] <ian> razor-x: how do i apt get kiax (iax voip softphone).
[04:01] <spanglesontoast> smoothwall so much easier
[04:01] <spanglesontoast> in one lovely config file
[04:01] <spanglesontoast> called rules
[04:02] <geetergod> Whats something i should download thats cool?...
[04:02] <saber_> porn
[04:02] <geetergod> I have the CD burner prgram, limewire, xmms, xine...
[04:02] <geetergod> no not porn haha
[04:02] <dssfilesharer_> anyone have a link to where i can download the unbuntu add-on cd. its not available on ubuntu anymore
[04:02] <Razor-X> ian: sudo apt-get install kiax
[04:03] <nalioth> geetergod: how do you want to d/l?
[04:03] <spanglesontoast> hey last time I looked there was a huge moth on my wall
[04:03] <cesar_> dssfilesharer_ you have tried the bittorrent ?
[04:03] <Razor-X> geetergod: VLC ;)
[04:03] <spanglesontoast> now it's dead without me touching it
[04:03] <geetergod> just through sudo apt-get... thats fun (im new to linux)
[04:03] <spanglesontoast> weird
[04:03] <geetergod> VLC?
[04:03] <dssfilesharer_> last time i mess with bitorrent i got a nasty letter
[04:03] <Razor-X> spanglesontoast: maybe because bugs die faster than you do? ;)
[04:04] <Razor-X> geetergod: the best Media Player ever ;)
[04:04] <ian> razor-x: can i pm you with the error msg i get?
[04:04] <cesar_> dssfilesharer_ ???? nasty letter ?
[04:04] <geetergod> ya?
[04:04] <geetergod> worth getting?
[04:04] <Razor-X> dssfilesharer_: haha!
[04:04] <NicP> they send those out too dssfilesharer_
[04:04] <Razor-X> be more careful next time
[04:04] <Razor-X> geetergod: can play almost any format out-of-the-box
[04:04] <dssfilesharer_> yes my isp sent letter saying i was stealing movies and that my service will cut off
[04:04] <NicP> ive started using torrents, hopefully i wont get one too
[04:04] <geetergod> sweet
[04:04] <geetergod> sudo apt-get install vls?
[04:04] <nalioth> geetergod: ah, i thought you wanted to do some serious data throughput damage to someone
[04:04] <Razor-X> my ISP doesen't give a crap
[04:04] <Razor-X> geetergod: yeahp
[04:05] <geetergod> kool, i'll give it a shot
[04:05] <nalioth> geetergod: start up synaptic and peruse teh "games" section
[04:05] <Razor-X> I can get gigs of illegal stuff, and they don't really care
[04:05] <NicP> dssfilesharer_,  do u think they actually have  record of which torrents u used?
[04:05] <ccc> oh, here's a great short description of amaroK: http://www.kde.org.uk/apps/amarok/
[04:05] <ian> Razor-X: can you help me with my problem. after i apt get..there is an error..can i pm it to u?
[04:05] <NicP> i dont like amarok
[04:05] <geetergod> ok nalioth
[04:05] <psychonate> um
[04:05] <dssfilesharer_> yes cause they told what movie and what time and they were on the money
[04:05] <Razor-X> ian: put it on Pastebin
[04:05] <spanglesontoast> lol ya
[04:05] <nalioth> ian: if its someinhg about a gpg key, its harmless
[04:05] <spanglesontoast> I think I may go to sleep
[04:05] <cesar_> dssfilesharer_ come to Mexico ! , we have so many problems about stealing propety , that internet is the last of them :D
[04:05] <psychonate> I cannot read the man page for 'rename' because it apparently contains some symbols that I cannot display.
[04:06] <ian> Razor-X: what is the url ?
[04:06] <Razor-X> dssfilesharer_: advice: change ISPs
[04:06] <dssfilesharer_> so i like to use mirc as much as possible never been busted on mirc in 5 years i use it
[04:06] <dssfilesharer_> only one fast isp here
[04:06] <Razor-X> dssfilesharer_: it's NOT mIRC
[04:06] <psychonate> I would like to fix this, as it is difficult to use man pages that are not entirely legible.
[04:06] <nalioth> ian: pastebin.com
[04:06] <Razor-X> I don't caps often, but I get very emotional
[04:06] <Razor-X> it's NOT NOT NOT called mIRC
[04:06] <Razor-X> the protocol is IRC, mIRC is a n00bs client
[04:06] <Razor-X> remember that
[04:06] <dssfilesharer_> oik
[04:06] <dssfilesharer_> ok
[04:07] <psychonate> Does anyone have an idea why I cannot display these characters, or does anyone want me to copy/paste a sample?
[04:07] <Th4tBa5t4rd> Welp, installation complete... doing updates then...frackin video driver
[04:07] <Razor-X> psychonate: what IRC client are you using?
[04:07] <psychonate> no, no
[04:07] <psychonate> a man page entry
[04:07] <psychonate> I cannot read all of it apparently
[04:07] <ian> Razor-X; http://pastebin.com/293028
[04:07] <Razor-X> ohhh, you can't see the special characters in the man entry?
[04:07] <geetergod> ok i installed vls, now where is it?
[04:07] <psychonate> yes
[04:07] <cesar_> hmmm , one question anyone . . . i dl a alsa patch . . . (alsa-bk-2005-03-24.path.gz) how i can make it work ?
[04:07] <psychonate> well, I'm assuming they are special characters
[04:07] <Razor-X> then, try and install the extra fonts, psychonate
[04:07] <ian> nalioth: thanks for the url..
[04:08] <psychonate> ...I don't really know for sure obviously lol
[04:08] <Razor-X> geetergod: run vlc from command line
[04:08] <nalioth> psychonate: yes, install every font pkg you can see
[04:08] <spanglesontoast> manwhore IRC
[04:08] <spanglesontoast> mirc
[04:08] <spanglesontoast> :D
[04:08] <psychonate> holy moses
[04:08] <psychonate> I'll give it a go I guess
[04:08] <geetergod> no configuration file found
[04:09] <Razor-X> ian: that's because you dpkg -i before you apt-get'd
[04:09] <geetergod> oh its vlc?
[04:09] <Razor-X> spanglesontoast: that's too mild
[04:09] <geetergod> wonder what vls was i just downloaded? :)
[04:09] <ian> Razor-X: ic.. how do i resolve this problem? :(
[04:09] <spanglesontoast> what too much or just too less
[04:09] <spanglesontoast> ?
[04:10] <nalioth> geetergod: a flyswatter will help, when it rears its ugly head
[04:10] <geetergod> ah crap haha
[04:10] <geetergod> thats not what i wanted to here
[04:10] <Razor-X> ian: dpkg -r kiax
[04:10] <geetergod> hear*
[04:10] <Razor-X> and then run "apt-get install kiax" again
[04:11] <Razor-X> spanglesontoast: too less
[04:11] <Razor-X> geetergod: me too ;)
[04:11] <psychonate> hmmm
[04:11] <Razor-X> hikaru79: opening at 3-4!
[04:11] <psychonate> what is the easiest way to install all packages beginning with "xfonts?"
[04:11] <Razor-X> psychonate: read the GUI
[04:11] <Davey> is there some GUI for setting my firewall up?
[04:12] <zenwhen> firestarter
[04:12] <ian> Razor-X: package kiax not available.. :(
[04:12] <psychonate> how about:
[04:12] <spanglesontoast> hmmmm
[04:12] <psychonate> "sudo apt-get install xfonts*" ?
[04:12] <Razor-X> ian: is that output from apt-get or dpkg?
[04:12] <hikaru79> Aack, Ubuntu killed my Windows XP's boot thing :( When installing, it asked if I wanted it to write to MBR, so I said yes, thinking it would be Okay. Now when I try to boot into windows (The grub entry DOES show up at least), it says that there was a problem with the boot path. I know for sure that the windows partition wasn't damaged or anything, because I can mount it from Linux and stuff, so all the data is still there. How can I get it
[04:12] <hikaru79> to boot XP again? :(
[04:12] <psychonate> uh ohs, conflict
[04:12] <hikaru79> Razor-X, 16-16! :D
[04:12] <hikaru79> Do you play? ^_^
[04:12] <ian> razor-x: output from apt-get..
[04:12] <Davey> zenwhen: was that to me?
[04:12] <Razor-X> hikaru79: yeahp, I play!
[04:12] <Razor-X> and i'll help you too
[04:12] <hikaru79> Razor-X, wow! ^_^ How strong are you?
[04:13] <Razor-X> weak!!! ;)
[04:13] <hikaru79> =/ Aw
[04:13] <Razor-X> but, i'm learning
[04:13] <hikaru79> How weak is weak?
[04:13] <Razor-X> if you colud help me learn though, i'll help you with linux
[04:13] <ian> Razor-X: its the output of apt-get
[04:13] <raDeon> football is football
[04:13] <Razor-X> mmmm, can't remember the kyu offhand
[04:13] <raDeon> unless it's...football
[04:13] <hikaru79> I'm around 10k by KGS standards, and 7k by IGS standards
[04:13] <Razor-X> hikaru79: you _must_ play teaching games with me!!!
[04:13] <hikaru79> ^_^ I gladly will!
[04:13] <Razor-X> thanks!
[04:13] <hikaru79> :D
[04:13] <Razor-X> ok, to your problem
[04:14] <hikaru79> Will you be on in a few hours?
[04:14] <Razor-X> what's the /dev address?
[04:14] <hikaru79> /dev/hda4
[04:14] <Razor-X> hikaru79: possible
[04:14] <Razor-X> *possibly
[04:14] <psychonate> Is there any way I can exclude a single package from the previoulsy mentioned command?
[04:15] <spanglesontoast> alrite going off now
[04:15] <spanglesontoast> nite nite
[04:15] <whnp> hi there, does anyone know of a way to bulk import pictures into OO.o?
[04:16] <ian> Razor-X: still there? :()
[04:16] <Davey> Xorg is using up 100% of my CPU for no damn reason, any ideas?
[04:16] <Razor-X> ian: yeah
[04:16] <Razor-X> ian: did I forget you?
[04:16] <Razor-X> sorry, my go-obsesedness got to me
[04:17] <ian> Razor-X: yes..its ok. :) its an error of apt-get.. :(
[04:17] <Razor-X> first apt-get install libqt3c102-mt then dpkg -i
[04:17] <ian> Razor-X: how can i install kiax in my ubuntu? :)
[04:19] <nern> i want a program that will let me actually install windows and run it inside windows, like virtualpc on the mac. I dont like wine and it never works right, and there are only 2 applications that I want to be able to use from windows so i dont mind using something like virtual pc
[04:19] <linuxpoet> VMWare
[04:19] <knucks> anyone here have their mp3 encoder (gstreamer-lame) working?
[04:20] <knucks> please i dont know how to get it working..help
[04:20] <linuxpoet> Or qemu nern
[04:20] <nern> okay thanks
[04:20] <rg58sma> how is the command to reconf x1
[04:20] <rg58sma> x11
[04:20] <knucks> anyone?\
[04:20] <knucks> PLEASE
[04:21] <ProtoformX> Ah, pardon me.. I was recently directed to Ubuntu as a possibility for an OS to use..  I am sort of looking for one to correct my current problem, that this computer doesn't seem to have proper drivers for my current OS.  I was wondering if anyone knew how abundant Abuntu's driver base happens to be..?