[00:14] <chatter29> hey guys
[00:14] <chatter29> allah is doing
[00:14] <chatter29> sun is not doing allah is doing
[00:14] <chatter29> to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger
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[08:20] <acheronuk> weirdness of plasma trying to build where a ppa and archive versioning conflicts a bit?
[08:21] <santa_> y
[08:22] <santa_> it's ready to upload I think
[08:22] <acheronuk> had that before trying to build plasma with a half built FW in the archive, but a full ppa staging
[08:23] <acheronuk> ok. I'll do that a bit later on then :)
[08:29] <acheronuk> great. LP publisher is AWOL doing Sunday morning weekly maintenance I think (or whatever the hell makes it not work for 4+ hrs every Sunday)
[08:29] <acheronuk> ok. later than
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[09:02] <santa_> :|
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[10:38] <acheronuk> santa_: ping?
[10:38] <acheronuk> can upload in a few mins if you want?
[10:39] <santa_> acheronuk: as mentioned I think plasma is ready, so feel free to go ahead
[10:40] <acheronuk> ok. just double checking
[10:40] <santa_> acheronuk: they are also a few autopkgtests for frameworks which would need a retry
[10:42] <acheronuk> santa_: yup. will try to go through those in a bit, but the test queues were huge earlier
[10:42] <santa_> yeah I guess
[10:43] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[10:44] <acheronuk> santa_: uploading......
[10:44] <acheronuk> BluesKaj: morning :)
[10:45] <BluesKaj> 'Morning acheronuk
[10:45] <santa_> btw I'm testing the water for applications 17.04
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[10:45] <santa_> apparently we are missing the 'kdav' package in git
[10:46] <acheronuk> santa_: this? https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kdav
[10:48] <santa_> acheronuk: ok, the branch kubuntu_zesty_archive doesn't exist obviously
[10:48]  * santa_ facepalms
[10:53] <acheronuk> added to https://phabricator.kde.org/T5113
[10:53] <acheronuk> one extra we need a MOTU to upload
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[10:58] <acheronuk> santa_: I will prod tests and builds later and through the day most likely. now I'm going to have lunch, a glass of wine, and watch the Russian GP
[11:00] <santa_> no prob, have fun
 santa_ ping
 (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/trrd00FQ/file_2511.patch
 santa_ can I commit this?
 it's just a visual change
 so the filtering area is separated
 I'll add the filter for architecture, after this is in or scrubbed
 @ovidiuflorin, Looks pretty cool here, go ahead
 thank yoy
 done
 thank you
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 santa_ Santa I've pushed, but I still don't see the changes on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.9.5_artful.html
 why?
[13:18] <santa_> ovidiu because it's using the version from the package, we could switch to the git version if you want
[13:18] <santa_> I have leave for a little while brb
 I don't want anything...
 You're the ones using it
 I writing this for you guys
 actually I do want something
 I want to help
 and I'd hoped my changes are being put to use
 @ovidiuflorin, Sure, we will. Give a few mins.
[14:02] <santa_> acheronuk: fyi I'm going to create the kubuntu_zesty_artful branches for apps
[14:02] <clivejo> kubuntu_artful_archive I hope :P
[14:05] <santa_> damn, yes
[14:11] <mparillo> In AA, I saw a lot of 5.9.5. packages available in update manager, and applied them all without a crash, and re-booted. But kinfocenter and plasmashell -v show 5.9.4 still. Are more packages on their way?
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 You're in AA mparillo?
[14:16] <mparillo> Yes, installed from the ISOs.
 I am as well @ovidiuflorin
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 My poor attempt at a joke failed
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 Ohhh
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[14:57] <clivejo> mparillo: AFAIK only the packages with changes have been uploaded this time
 @ovidiuflorin, I got it now lol
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 @acheronuk copied you latte dock to a artful build and going to see what happens lol
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 built
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[16:01] <ahoneybun> mm can't seem to understand how to edit the changelog for that
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[17:22] <acheronuk> mparillo: plasma-workspace needs to upgrade for it to show 5.9.5
[17:24] <santa_> acheronuk: do we have the pim ppa's sorted out?
[17:24] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: dch -e ?
[17:24] <acheronuk> santa_: made the ppa. just not done the package copy yet
[17:25] <ahoneybun> I thought it was dch -i
[17:25] <ahoneybun> I downloaded the debian dir and source
[17:25] <ahoneybun> put the debian in the source
[17:25] <ahoneybun> https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/ubuntu/artful/+packages
[17:26] <acheronuk> dch -i will increment the revision number & edit
 just want to up the version from 17.04 to 17.10
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[17:27] <santa_> acheronuk: once that's done how do you want to proceed with kdepim for artful?
[17:28] <santa_> one possible way would be uploading just the new packages, then the rest
[17:28] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: dch to give yourself a new changelog entry, or -e/-i and a manual edit
 well it gave me an error when I tried to do anything
 I downloaded latte-dock_0.6.0.orig.tar.gz and latte-dock_0.6.0-0ubuntu1-ubuntu17.04-ppa3.debian.tar.xz'
[17:31] <acheronuk> santa_:  going to be awkward whatever way. need a MOTU/core-dev/AA to help
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[17:38] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: what error?
[17:39] <ahoneybun> acheronuk: tbh not sure I'm doing this right
[17:39] <ahoneybun> do I put the debian dir in the source?
[17:40] <acheronuk> I would have done 'dget https://launchpad.net/~rikmills/+archive/ubuntu/latte-dock/+files/latte-dock_0.6.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu17.04~ppa3.dsc"
[17:40] <ahoneybun> ahhh
[17:41] <acheronuk> which will either unpack it all and add the debian dir
[17:42] <acheronuk> or if it doesn't, then do 'dpkg-source -x latte-dock_0.6.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu17.04~ppa3.dsc' will will do that
[17:42] <ahoneybun> mm I don;t have your public key acheronuk
[17:43] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: 'dpkg-source -x' will moan about that, but still unpack
[17:43] <ahoneybun> I used dget
[17:44] <mparillo> acheronuk: Thank you. I upgraded a bunch of AA packages to 5.9.5, but I guess there are more to come. Good news is that there was no immediate obvious breakage in a VM.
[17:44] <acheronuk> you run 'dpkg-source -x' *after* fetching with dget, *if* dget does not unpack
[17:45] <ahoneybun> I'm still lost so I'll just stop
[17:46] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: https://launchpad.net/~rikmills/+archive/ubuntu/latte-dock/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=artful
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[17:47] <ahoneybun> mm latte dock is being a little crapper
[17:48] <acheronuk> why?
[17:48] <ahoneybun> it keeps going away
[17:48] <ahoneybun> and I can't get it back
[17:48] <ahoneybun> also kwin is acting up
[17:48] <ahoneybun> I can't tile windows
[17:48] <acheronuk> urgh
[17:49] <ahoneybun> tho I think it was like that on zesty
[17:49] <acheronuk> I hate autohiding docks/panels, so I immediately turn that off
[17:50] <ahoneybun> acheronuk: well I changed that to alway and it still disappears and I can't get it bac
[17:50] <ahoneybun> unless I launch it again
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0QzoZgle/file_2513.jpg
[17:51] <acheronuk> I set to always visible
[17:51] <ahoneybun> still goes away
[17:51] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: your plasma is being weird then
[17:51] <acheronuk> fine here
[17:52] <ahoneybun> how can I restart the shell?
[17:52] <ahoneybun> mm maybe it's my drivers
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[17:53] <acheronuk> kquitapp5 plasmashell && plasmashell &
[17:55] <ahoneybun> same issue
[17:55] <ahoneybun> even rebooted
[17:55] <acheronuk> santa_: not sure there is a 'best' order to do things. if we can get someone to upload, I think we are going to have to just grab the chance at the time. if that means sorting other stuff later, so be it
[17:55] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: dunno then!
[17:55] <acheronuk> back in 5
[17:56]  * acheronuk goes to make coffee
[17:56] <ahoneybun> mm even switched back to the nvidia driver
[18:03] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: KCI is build mater of latte-dock, have you tried grabbing that build to try?
[18:03] <acheronuk> there have been fixes and changes since 0.6
[18:03] <ahoneybun> well it worked fine in zesty
[18:03] <ahoneybun> but atm trying to fix kwin
[18:03] <acheronuk> *build master
[18:03] <acheronuk> ok
[18:03] <ahoneybun> I really miss the tile option
[18:04] <ahoneybun> I also can't make the window full size if I drag it to the top
[18:04] <acheronuk> that works here, so you have something odd
[18:04] <ahoneybun> idk I've not messed with that
[18:05] <ahoneybun> only the dashboard thingie
[18:05] <ahoneybun> I don't want to reinstall.............................
[18:07] <ahoneybun> fixed it
[18:07] <acheronuk> :)
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[18:08] <ahoneybun> window management
[18:08] <ahoneybun> "Tile windows"
[18:09] <acheronuk> I have it set to move from one desktop to another instead
[18:09] <ahoneybun> reddit saved the day
[18:09] <acheronuk> so don't use that
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/Vqu0o2JF/file_2517.jpg
[18:10] <ahoneybun> helpful here
[18:12] <acheronuk> can be. sometimes not! lol
[18:14] <ahoneybun> true
[18:37] <acheronuk> yikes @ the queue lengths still http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running
[18:37] <acheronuk> I triggered retries for all our regressions hrs ago, and still they are queued....
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[22:53] <amichair> hey, I haven't used bzr in years... can someone remind me - after I push a branch under my username (e.g. I just pushed a fix to software-properties), do the devs pick it up and merge automatically, or do I have to do something manually (open issue?) for it to be noticed? what's the procedure?
[22:58] <tsdgeos> amichair: i guess it depends on the project but i'd at least expect you to create a merge request
[22:58] <tsdgeos> i.e. click on the "Propose for merging" in https://code.launchpad.net/~user/project/branch
[23:01] <amichair> tsdgeos: it's software-properties (kde)
[23:01] <tsdgeos> i'm not a kubuntu developer
[23:01] <clivejo> which package?
[23:02] <amichair> ok, I see the propose for merging link, I'll try it
[23:02] <amichair> clivejo: software-properties
[23:04] <clivejo> amichair: http://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/software-properties/main ?
[23:06] <amichair> clivejo: yeah, now I see the merge request there. Now just wait for a response or a merge?
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[10:29] <raidghost> TJ-: was my bug report correct made?
[10:31] <TJ-> raidghost: what's the bug number? I have private messages blocked so I didn't see it yesterday
[10:32]  * apw didn't know you could block PMs ... interesting
[10:33] <TJ-> apw:  /umode +g
[10:34] <TJ-> apw: you get a server message telling you a msg was blocked, and you can have a PM with that person by doing "/query <nick> hi" to open it from your side
[10:34] <apw> oh that is quite nice if you are getting slapped about
[10:35] <TJ-> raidghost: post the buglink, apw is someone I'd like to see it :)
[10:35] <TJ-> apw: being in support channels, without +g, everyone thinks they're special and can get 1-to-1 help
[10:37] <TJ-> apw: raidghost's issue is that there is a system with 12 DVB devices in and the kernel config is hard-coded to 8... the request is to increase that, I'm going to suggest 16 ... hopefully the bug number will be provided soon. The problem is 4 devices don't get initialised due to insufficient device numbers
[10:37] <apw> yeah i bet, most people do think they are special :)
[10:38] <TJ-> apw: in this case 3 physical adapters each with 4 DVB frontends
[10:38] <apw> i'm sparticus
[10:39] <apw> TJ-, that doesn't sound like an unreasonable request, if it isn't making multi-megabyte buffers for DVD cards you don't have at least
[10:39] <TJ-> It needs DVB_MAX_ADAPTERS=16 rather than =8
[10:39] <TJ-> apw: right... raidghost show is the bug link !
[10:40] <apw> the default is 16, so that should tell me something :)
[10:40] <apw> yeah and they changed the defualt quite recently
[10:41] <TJ-> sounds like a no-brainer as they say, then
[10:41] <apw> if someone gives me the buglink i will add some commentary
[10:41] <TJ-> raidghost: yooo-hoooo, anyone home!?!?
[10:41] <apw> i am more suppriused it isn't something could be changed later, very odd
[10:41] <TJ-> apw: me too, you can change the minor numbers but not the major
[10:42] <apw> mostly those kinds of configs now define the number which are made by defualt
[10:42] <TJ-> like you suggested, maybe it was a reserved bufferse compromise
[10:42] <apw> for old s/w which cannot cope with asking for new ones
[10:42] <apw> i don't see it doing that, so i think it is just 8 ... noone could have more than 8
[10:42] <TJ-> yeah, that's what I expected, but it is hard coded with no over-ride
[10:42] <raidghost> TJ-: of course anyone home :P
[10:42] <TJ-> raidghost: show us the buglink .. apw is raring to go :)
[10:43] <raidghost> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-hwe/+bug/1752692
[10:43] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1752692 in linux-hwe (Ubuntu) "Increase DVB_MAX_ADAPTERS from 8 to 16 in kernel config" [Undecided,New]
[10:43] <raidghost> not sure if its made the propper way. But i gave it a try
[10:47] <TJ-> raidghost: can you attach the system logs using "apport-collect 1752692"
[10:48] <raidghost> TJ-: Would that show everything? i know there has been some issues with mdraid and others. But now fixed.
[10:49] <TJ-> raidghost: it's the standard bug info collection tool, you could just attach the output of 'dmesg' ("dmseg > /tmp/dmesg.log")
[10:55] <raidghost> give me a sec. had to isntall python-apport
[10:56] <raidghost> weird. Bad bot go away. didnt like my links :P
[10:58] <raidghost> i use my ubuntu username and password.
[11:08] <raidghost> Something went wrong TJ-
[11:11] <TJ-> raidghost: just log-in to Launchpad and attach the captured dmesg output manually
[11:12] <LocutusOfBorg> hello guys
[11:12] <LocutusOfBorg> vboxvideo.ko:
[11:12] <LocutusOfBorg> Running module version sanity check.
[11:12] <LocutusOfBorg> Error! Module version 5.2.8_Ubuntu for vboxvideo.ko
[11:12] <LocutusOfBorg> is not newer than what is already found in kernel 4.15.0-10-generic (5.2.8_Ubuntu).
[11:12] <LocutusOfBorg> You may override by specifying --force.
[11:12] <LocutusOfBorg> this makes *no* sense
[11:12] <raidghost> Tj: so just use add a comment or attachment. and write in description dmesg and just upload file?
[11:12] <LocutusOfBorg> sforshee, apw^^^ AFAIK vboxvideo is from staging, and *can't* return such version
[11:12] <apw> LocutusOfBorg, indeed, the dkms version checker is bonkers
[11:12] <LocutusOfBorg> I did modinfo and there is no 5.2.8
[11:12] <apw> it cannot cope with the idea that the module you have has no version field but the dkms one does
[11:12] <apw> it is a bug in dkms
[11:13] <LocutusOfBorg> ack, thanks for confirming
[11:13] <LocutusOfBorg> so "if version == NULL" pass?
[11:13] <apw> it more correctly should sya, these two use different versioning so i cannot make any kind of judgement
[11:13] <LocutusOfBorg> I would like to fix it
[11:13] <apw> LocutusOfBorg, if we are using the in kernle one from 4.15 upwards then you can tell the dkms package that
[11:13] <apw> that it is not appopriate for that system
[11:13] <apw> obsolete after, something like that
[11:15] <TJ-> raidghost: yes, log-in to LP, at the bottom of the bug page there's the "Add atachment or patch" link
[11:17] <raidghost> TJ-: Done
[11:18] <TJ-> raidghost: you'll see apw has already adopted the bug so it's in progress
[11:18] <raidghost> thats why it says invalid on some affects?
[11:19] <TJ-> raidghost: correct, he's assigned it to the correct projects/packages
[11:19] <raidghost> I wrote 4 cards, since gonna install the last card tonight. Hoe that doesnt kill the prosess
[11:20] <TJ-> raidghost: the new default in mainline is to set the value to 16, which would support 4 adapters with 4 heads each
[11:20] <raidghost> Great <3 What time aspect do you think it will take?
[11:21] <TJ-> raidghost: can't say, but watch the bug report. It's a pretty trivial change.
[11:22] <raidghost> Thanks alot for help both you and apw. And the rest of ubuntu <3
[11:23] <raidghost> breakfast time here in norway. See you later.
[11:26] <LocutusOfBorg> apw, this is even worse, the vboxvideo from vbox-guest-dkms is not installed at all now
[11:39] <apw> right because it thinks the one we have is good
[11:51] <LocutusOfBorg> I found a fix
[11:52] <LocutusOfBorg> that 5.2.8 was leftover from previous modules verification, initializing it with 0 makes everything work
[11:53] <LocutusOfBorg> and the check with version not found is: 5.2.8 > 0 -> install
[11:54] <LocutusOfBorg> this is the patch:
[11:54] <LocutusOfBorg> vboxvideo.ko:
[11:54] <LocutusOfBorg> Running module version sanity check.
[11:54] <LocutusOfBorg> Error! Module version 5.2.8_Ubuntu for vboxvideo.ko
[11:54] <LocutusOfBorg> is not newer than what is already found in kernel 4.15.0-10-generic (5.2.8_Ubuntu).
[11:54] <LocutusOfBorg> You may override by specifying --force.
[11:54] <LocutusOfBorg> oops
[11:54] <LocutusOfBorg> get_module_verinfo()
[11:55] <LocutusOfBorg> there is an "unset res", but seems to be not unsetting res[1] res[0] res[2]
[11:55] <LocutusOfBorg> so, I added res[0]=0 res[1]=0 res[2]=0
[11:55] <LocutusOfBorg> seems working
[12:15] <LocutusOfBorg> dkms uploaded
[12:15]  * LocutusOfBorg feels dirty
[12:25] <LocutusOfBorg> now apw with this dkms, the testsuite will pass, and fail once you merge 5.2.8 in the kernel
[12:26] <LocutusOfBorg> the usual stuff
[12:54] <apw> LocutusOfBorg, yep, great, thanks
[13:06] <LocutusOfBorg> 5.2.8-dfsg-2	virtualbox/5.2.8-dfsg-2 dkms/2.3-3ubuntu5	2018-03-02 12:50:07 UTC	0h 04m 03s	pass	log   artifacts
[13:07] <apw> when a userprocess sleeps it asks the krenel to do something
[13:07] <apw> and then schedules away to run something else, which may be idle
[13:07] <apw> if the machine is not doing anything
[13:07] <apw> but it is not in userspace when it is not doing something
[13:07] <apw> which is how it multi-tasks
[17:29] <Martiini> I'd wanna compile my own kernel for my laptop
[18:49] <Martiini> https://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/Lenovo has device info for kernel compile


[10:10] <Guest_94847> allah is doing
[10:10] <Guest_94847> sun is not doing Allah is doing
[10:10] <Guest_94847> moon is not doing Allah is doing
[10:10] <Guest_94847> stars are not doing Allah is doing
[10:10] <Guest_94847> planets are not doing Allah is doing
[10:10] <Guest_94847> galaxies are not doing Allah is doing
[10:10] <Guest_94847> oceans are not doing Allah is doing
[10:11] <Guest_94847> mountains are not doing Allah is doing
[10:11] <Guest_94847> trees are not doing Allah is doing
[10:11] <Guest_94847> mom is not doing Allah is doing
[10:11] <Guest_94847> dad is not doing Allah is doing
[10:11] <Guest_94847> boss is not doing Allah is doing
[10:11] <Guest_94847> job is not doing Allah is doing
[10:11] <Guest_94847> dollar is not doing Allah is doing
[10:12] <Guest_94847> degree is not doing Allah is doing
[10:12] <Guest_94847> medicine is not doing Allah is doing
[10:12] <Guest_94847> customers are not doing Allah is doing
[10:12] <Guest_94847> you can not get a job without the permission of allah
[10:12] <Guest_94847> you can not get married without the permission of allah
[10:13] <Guest_94847> nobody can get angry at you without the permission of allah
[10:13] <Guest_94847> light is not doing Allah is doing
[10:13] <Guest_94847> fan is not doing Allah is doing
[10:13] <Guest_94847> businessess are not doing Allah is doing
[10:13] <Guest_94847> america is not doing Allah is doing
[10:14] <Guest_94847> fire can not burn without the permission of allah
[10:14] <Guest_94847> knife can not cut without the permission of allah
[10:14] <Guest_94847> rulers are not doing Allah is doing
[10:14] <Guest_94847> governments are not doing Allah is doing
[10:14] <Guest_94847> sleep is not doing Allah is doing
[10:15] <Guest_94847> hunger is not doing Allah is doing
[10:15] <Guest_94847> food does not take away the hunger Allah takes away the hunger
[10:15] <Guest_94847> water does not take away the thirst Allah takes away the thirst
[10:15] <Guest_94847> seeing is not doing Allah is doing
[10:15] <Guest_94847> hearing is not doing Allah is doing
[10:16] <Guest_94847> seasons are not doing Allah is doing
[10:16] <Guest_94847> weather is not doing Allah is doing
[10:16] <Guest_94847> humans are not doing Allah is doing
[10:18] <Guest_94847> animals are not doing Allah is doing
[10:18] <Guest_94847> the best amongst you are those who learn and teach quran
[13:38] <dobey> wtf
[13:39] <teward> dobey: spam is a thing.  there's no control bots in here for spammers.
[13:40] <teward> but yeah i had the same thought when I tured on IRC this morning
[13:40] <cjwatson> let's not spend ages talking about spam, it just magnifies the distraction caused by it
[13:41] <dobey> teward: i know what spam is. the 'wtf' wasn't about the fact that it was spam :)
[13:41] <teward> :P
[13:42]  * teward goes back to figuring out why he can't interact with his Launchpad code branches anymore
[20:32] <andy_wfc> Is the fact that the "report a bug" link on bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu doesn't go to a bug reporting form an ubuntu-specific quirk, or is there a different way to file a bug w/ launchpad?
[20:35] <nacc> andy_wfc: are you trying to report a bug with launchpad itself (checking because the end of the question could be taken either way)
[20:36] <nacc> andy_wfc: and not sure what you mean? it takes me to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug which is the bug reporting form (you enter a summary first so it can check for duplicates :)
[20:38] <dobey> it's a quirk for ubuntu, because generally bugs should be filed against a package, not the ubuntu distribution itself
[20:40] <cjwatson> There is a link to a bug reporting form on the wiki page if you look hard
[20:41] <cjwatson> nacc: the redirect is only issued to users who aren't a member of the distribution's bug supervisor team
[20:41] <andy_wfc> nacc: it redirects me to here despite being logged in: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[20:42] <dobey> andy_wfc: what package is your bug in?
[20:42] <cjwatson> andy_wfc: if you have a specific reason why you can't use apport, see the "Filing bugs at Launchpad.net" section of that page
[20:43] <andy_wfc> dobey: mono-devel
[20:44] <dobey> andy_wfc: run 'ubuntu-bug mono-devel'
[20:44] <andy_wfc> The app in question doesn't crash but it doesn't work properly either
[20:45] <andy_wfc> Neither apport or ubuntu-bug seem to give me any opportunity to add text explaining the actual problem
[20:45] <dobey> it should open your browser to lp to file the actual bug report
[20:46] <andy_wfc> environment in questinon is a headless server
[20:46] <dobey> then as cjwatson said, see the "Filing bugs at Launchpad.net" section of that wiki page you were redirected to
[20:50] <nacc> cjwatson: oh! thanks for the clarification
[20:51] <nacc> andy_wfc: you can use ubuntu-bug to file the bug still, then edit the dsescription, probably ?
[23:28] <cjwatson> We're going to miss the end of the git.launchpad.net maintenance window by a bit due to a slower-than-expected backup rsync, but should only be about ten extra minutes.
[23:44] <cjwatson> Just about exactly ten minutes over in the end.


[12:35] <cables> VIrUZ__ is pretty much trolling in #u
[12:35] <PriceChild> *looks*
[12:35] <cables> PriceChild, he wants to "Block the IRC protocol"
[12:35] <cables> from making outgoing connections
[12:35] <cables> then he did !seen protocol
[12:36] <cables> and didn't respond to my messages.
[05:01] <ubotu> ziroday called the ops in #ubuntu
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> already done
[05:32] <ubotu> bruenig called the ops in #ubuntu
[06:04] <Jordan_U> troll in #ubuntu
[06:06] <nalioth> Jordan_U: who?
[06:10] <Jordan_U> nalioth, amicrawler, I heard the same "virus" bit a few days ago
[06:11] <nalioth> i'll know if he offers "help"
[06:11] <nalioth> or a "pastebin"
 amicrawler, try another browser please
 i like konqueror
[06:27] <Jordan_U> nalioth, ^^
[06:39] <nalioth> Jordan_U: that's not trollish, just misguided
[06:40] <mneptok> nalioth: i'm watcing for the next lil' bit
[06:44] <Jordan_U> nalioth, refusing to try another browser to test because you prefer konq tells me he isn't even running Ubuntu
[06:45] <Jordan_U> nalioth, Did you see the "screen shot" he posted?
[06:46] <mneptok> it's suspect, for sure
[06:47] <nalioth> i use konqueror
[06:47] <nalioth> and my desktop is E17
[06:49] <mneptok> nalioth: you're sicker than i thought ;)
[06:50] <mneptok> exactly. i expect to see you at the next guild meeting.
[06:51] <nalioth> i'm too kettle-y for them
[09:48] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: did you ever figure out the chatzilla thing?
[09:48] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: it's a +d ban.
[09:49] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso'
[09:49] <Hobbsee> s ban is indeed the culprit
[12:54] <Jordan_U> Likely another troll in #ubuntu
[12:55] <gnomefreak> Jordan_U: who?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> im out
[12:55] <Jordan_U> gnomefreak, aref
[12:56] <gnomefreak> ok someone will watch im sure if it gets too bad use !ops
 I want to recode the registry in Ubuntu!
[12:56] <Jordan_U> gnomefreak, Yeah, I don't like to give them the satisfaction though.
[12:56] <Hobbsee> looks like a wine covery
[12:56] <Hobbsee> er, recovery.  question, even
[12:56] <Jordan_U> Yeah, that is why I wasn't sure
[12:57] <gnomefreak> it does but i havent been watching
[01:33] <ompaul> @now CST
[01:33] <ompaul> @now texas
[01:34] <ompaul> @now dublin
[01:34] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Dublin: July 08 2007, 12:34:08 - Next meeting: Kernel Team in 2 days
[01:35] <jussi01> @now helsinki
[01:35] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Helsinki: July 08 2007, 14:35:10 - Next meeting: Kernel Team in 2 days
[01:35] <ompaul> @now Chicago
[01:35] <ubotu> Current time in America/Chicago: July 08 2007, 06:35:18 - Next meeting: Kernel Team in 2 days
[02:01] <Vorian> @now Chillicothe
[02:01] <Vorian> :)
[02:16] <RichiH> heads up on knifeprty
[02:16] <RichiH> trolled #debian
[02:16] <Hobbsee> ah, great
[02:17] <nalioth> he left
[02:17] <nalioth> the troll left
[02:17] <Hobbsee> even better
[06:21] <ubotu> Jordan_U called the ops in #ubuntu
[07:15] <ubotu> magnetron called the ops in #ubuntu
[09:54] <geem> test me baby
[09:54] <geem> :)
[09:55] <geem> on different port brothas and sisters
[09:59] <geem> can i come back now
[09:59] <geem> ??
[11:07] <Amaranth> can someone email me chanserv.py? the one on mez's website is broken
[11:07] <Amaranth> omg xchat aqua doesn't do nick completion
[11:07] <Amaranth> ah, there it goes
[11:11] <ubotu> In ubotu, slavik said: !ubotu, gethelp is Please read http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html for proper ways to ask for help.


[06:51] <up-user> hello. how can I delete one / all calls on the call list?
[07:23] <bqphone> good morning
[07:23] <bqphone> yesterday my ubuntu phone got an update, is there a way to see what did exactly updated? is it posted somewhere?
[07:41] <diplo> bqphone: http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ota/ota-3.5.changelog
[07:46] <bqphone> thx mate
[08:34] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Golf Day! 😃
[09:28] <mpt> Is there any easy way to compare the phone language packs for two languages (e.g. en_ZM vs. en_ZW)?
[09:28] <mpt> To see how the translations differ
[09:30] <seb128> mpt, you want to compare specific strings?
[09:31] <mpt> seb128, no, I want to see *all* the strings that are different
[09:32] <seb128> mpt, I don't think there is an easy way to do that
[09:36] <seb128> mpt, you can "msgunfmt /usr/share/locale-langpack/<locale>/LC_MESSAGES/*" to get the list of strings for <locale>
[09:37] <seb128> mpt, so you can > log_en_GB for example and do the same on another locale and diff those files
[09:37] <mpt> Ah, neat
[09:37] <seb128> but the strings are not going to be always in the same order and headers change
[09:37] <seb128> so it's not as clean as "just show the difference"
[09:37] <seb128> but it can help you having an idea
[09:37] <seb128> otherwise you need more script, e.g using python
[09:42] <seb128> use "-s" with msgunfmt to sort the output, it should help diff to have similar context
[10:22] <studio_> hi
[10:23] <studio_> since when do you support the bq Aquaris E5 HD? btw, big thanks :)
[10:36] <popey> studio_: we don't
[10:38] <studio_> https://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/rc/bq-aquaris.en/
[10:39] <studio_> vegetahd
[10:39] <studio_> that is the "E5 HD"
[10:41] <popey> well, that says 13 may
[10:42] <studio_> but it is not listed in the wiki. whois the developer?
[10:44] <mpt> oh bother
[10:45] <mpt> (I misread some instructions about using citrain, and now … I have to reflash, I guess)
[10:47] <popey> studio_: I guess we'll have to wait and see
[10:48] <studio_> popey, i am right now searching for a cheap bq E5 "HD" :) I thought it is EOL ...
[10:50] <mpt> “Failed to enter Recovery” \o/
[11:05] <mpt> This question may seem silly, but: Instead of saying “Expecting the device to be in the bootloader...waiting”, why doesn’t ubuntu-device flash just do an “adb reboot bootloader” itself?
[11:08] <ogra_> mpt, it does, doesnt it ? ... the message means "i'm waiting for it to show up in bootloader mode"
[11:09] <ogra_> if your screen was unlocked and you had developer mode enabled, it would have rebboted you into bootloader mode automatically
[11:09] <mpt> ogra_, if so, it’s a coincidence that twice now it has shown the FASTBOOT screen only after I entered “adb reboot bootloader” myself
[11:10] <ogra_> (at least that used to be the behavior, sergio is off this week to answer if that default changed ...)
[11:13] <mpt> ogra_, make that thrice now. I waited two minutes just to see if it would reboot by itself, and it didn’t. Should I report a bug?
[11:18] <ogra_> mpt, well, perhaps ask sergiusens first, might be that is desired behavior now, i didnt follow the changes in u-d-f so closely
[11:18] <ogra_> i know it used to reboot you automatically at some point
[11:18] <ogra_> (well, or just file it and let him close it then :) )
[11:19] <mpt> Even if it shouldn’t, it could easily tell you *how* to enter the bootloader, so I’ll report a bug anyway
[11:23] <ogra_> good
[11:23] <mpt> (reported bug 1455050)
[11:25] <ogra_> hmm, why does url-dispatcher in vivid suddenly append stuff to URLs ?
[11:25]  * ogra_ cant open any websites anymore
[11:57] <studio_> back
[11:59] <studio_> popey, i've just seen it is john : https://github.com/bq/aquaris-E5/tree/aquaris-E5-ubuntu-master
[12:00] <studio_> hmm, the old price was 180 Euro in Germany for the E5 HD, but i was too late to buy it
[12:04] <studio_> wow, £149.85 in the UK on Amazon (ASIN: B00M6WHN4G)?
[12:06] <Stskeeps> ls
[12:26] <studio_> what is needed to flash the E5 HD, Android-Version, to Ubuntu Touch, just the ERB1, MBR, Kernel, recovery.img and MT6582_Android_scatter.txt to flash the latest version via ubuntu-device-flash??
[12:28] <studio_> ok, a full image would be nice, but in the moment i can't find a full image ...
[12:29] <popey> maybe ask bq if/when they plan to sell that device with ubuntu pre-installed
[12:29] <popey> otherwise we'll end up wasting huge amounts of time with you here again as we did when you bought an android E4.5
[12:33] <studio_> popey, i do not understand, did google ever made plan to sell their phones with ubuntu touch?
[12:33] <popey> Yes, I think you do understand.
[12:38] <mpt> jgdxx, I just mailed you about the APN testing
[12:40] <studio_> you have flo, mako, manta, krillin, vegetahd and also arale in the https://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/, sorry i really do not understand :(
[12:41] <popey> flo, mako and manta were / are supported because there were no shipping devices in stores which run Ubuntu Touch.
[12:41] <popey> Then companies like bq and meizu come along and ship devices with Ubuntu, so they get added to the server.
[12:41] <popey> They are the primary devices we support - the ones sold *with* *ubuntu* *pre-installed*.
[12:41] <popey> Sure we can provide help for others.
[12:42] <popey> But every minute we spend helping people with devices they randomly bought hoping they can get it working, is less time spent on Ubuntu, convergence, new devices, snappy etc.
[12:43] <popey> It's also incredibly frustrating to have to go through the same questions multiple times with you.
[12:43] <popey> And nobody really looks forward to doing that again with a new device really.
[12:48] <studio_> popey, i understood. but i was wondering, that there is still support for the google devices
[12:49] <popey> studio_: not a lot of support.
[12:49] <popey> Shipping devices are the focus
[12:52] <liuxg> jdstrand, ping
[12:52] <jgdxx> mpt, right.. error closed is due to the device locking. You can create /userdata/.adb_onlock to avoid this
[12:53] <jgdxx> mpt,
[12:53] <mpt> jgdxx, is that what prevented the installation? Or was it the 404 Not Found? Or both?
[12:54] <studio_> I do not like, when ppls here say i am talking "bad" about ubuntu touch, but i am also reading an viewing minds from other ppls about ut, and this video was right to the point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ws5TRXFkO8
[12:55] <jgdxx> mpt, not sure, might have to $ sudo apt-get update
[12:55] <jgdxx> mpt, but you can use silo 36 now. There is a lot of docs for how to
[12:56] <mpt> jgdxx, it was “sudo apt-get update” that triggered the 404
[12:57] <jgdxx> mpt, is the phone online? not sure why
[12:57] <mpt> jgdxx, is <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LandingTeam/SiloTestingGuidelines#Where_can_I_find_details_of_the_Silo.3F> the appropriate instructions to follow?
[12:58] <mpt> jgdxx, if it was an online/offline problem I would think it would be “hostname not found” or something, not a 404
[12:58] <jgdxx> mpt, im on a phone, ill have to get back to you in 30 mins
[12:58] <mpt> ok
[13:01] <studio_> popey, please watch that video. i am wrong?
[13:02] <popey> studio_: I didn't say you were talking bad about ubuntu touch.
[13:02] <studio_> not you, but for exp. my "Guru"
[13:04] <popey> you're deviating from the point somewhat.
[13:06] <studio_> i am not "deviating" from the point. since one year it is known, that the E4.5 will come with UT.
[13:07] <popey> right, and we support the ones that ship with ubuntu
[13:07] <popey> if you buy one separately from ebay or whatever, running android, well, you're on your own a bit there
[13:07] <popey> we can provide some help
[13:07] <popey> and you have to admit we have provided you a LOT of help here
[13:08] <studio_> one year without  basic features is for consumers is "not so nice".
[13:08] <popey> in fact I'd go as far as to say you are the single person in this channel who has consumed more help than anyone else in the last 3 months
[13:08] <popey> Oh, are you going to bring up gpg again?
[13:08] <studio_> no
[13:08] <studio_> please view the video
[13:09] <popey> You're not telling me anything we don't already know.
[13:09] <popey> I've already seen it
[13:09] <popey> he's right about somethings and wrong about others
[13:09] <popey> You could say the same about _any_ review
[13:09] <studio_> he? ehm ...
[13:09] <jgdxx> mpt, yes, $ citrain device-upgrade # is the way to install a silo
[13:11] <studio_> popey, i think "he" is a women
[13:11] <popey> maybe I'm mistaken, it doesn't matter.
[13:11] <jgdxx> mpt, not sure why apt's trying to fetch wily packages
[13:12] <jgdxx> mpt, and I'm using $ ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed --device krillin
[13:14] <jgdx> though, krillin.en seems recent enough
[13:15] <jgdx> mpt, do you have a shell on phone?
[13:15] <mpt> jgdx, yes, but it’s easier to type on adb shell and has exactly the same effect, right?
[13:15] <studio_> popey, the point was, maybe i am wrong, why not "all manpower" is going into the bq E4.5, because this is the first "baby" from Canonical?
[13:15] <popey> It is the primary device studio_
[13:16] <popey> its the device we do all testing on.
[13:16] <popey> and as all devices are equal, they all get new features together
[13:17] <jgdx> mpt, adb shell has some weird stuff going on, but it works
[13:17] <jgdx> mpt, could you put the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on a pastebin somewhere?
[13:17] <mpt> jgdx, you said silo 36? citrain tells me that the silo number must be from 1 to 20.
[13:18] <studio_> popey, what do mean with "all devices"?
[13:18] <popey> studio_: the ubuntu layer is the same on all devices (nexus ones, bq ones, meizu ones, future ones)
[13:19] <studio_> that's what i mean, why google devices?
[13:19] <popey> i already explained that
[13:19] <popey> 13:41 < popey> flo, mako and manta were / are supported because there were no shipping devices in stores which run Ubuntu Touch.
[13:19] <jgdx> mpt, do you have the phablet tools ppa installed on your machine? Maybe you need to add it, which will upgrade the citrain tool.
[13:19] <jgdx> mpt, https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ubuntu/tools
[13:19] <popey> it's near-zero effort to automatically spit out the images for mako when we do krillin
[13:20] <studio_> popey, there are more devices that can handle ut, but that is not the point
[13:21] <mpt> jgdx, “W: Failed to fetch https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ubuntu/tools/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  HttpError404”
[13:21] <popey> studio_: then i dont see your point
[13:22] <studio_> the point is, put all manpower to one or two device(s) what is an "official device"
[13:23] <popey> we are
[13:23] <popey> bq and meizu devices are official devices
[13:24] <studio_> for the bq it is 14.xx and so many things are missing. for the meizu, what is it advantage?
[13:24] <popey> bq will move to 15.xx by the end of the month
[13:24] <jgdx> mpt, that url's wrong though
[13:24] <popey> meizu isn't out yet
[13:25] <studio_> it is still not out, but what is it advantage?
[13:25] <jgdx> mpt, not sure how that was made.. this is the correct one http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/tools/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages
[13:25] <jgdx> how'd you add the ppa?
[13:25] <mpt> jgdx, “sudo add-apt-repository  https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ubuntu/tools”
[13:26] <studio_> if the meizu is using an MT6595, will it support the features from an MT6595?
[13:26] <jgdx> mpt, the command should be “sudo add-apt-repository ppa:phablet-team/tools”
[13:27] <jgdx> mpt, and that could be the source of the 404s on the device as well
[13:28] <popey> studio_: it's a different device, I'm sure a smart person like you can look it up
[13:31] <mpt> jgdx, grrr, I used to have this PPA, but it was “disabled on upgrade to saucy”
[13:35] <jgdx> ah
[13:36] <jgdx> abeato, nice work on nuntium :)
[13:36] <mpt> jgdx, unfortunately, after adding that PPA and doing “sudo apt-get update”, apt-get upgrade still doesn’t mention phablet-tools
[13:37] <abeato> jgdx, actually a small change, but hey, those were my first go lines ;)
[13:38] <studio_> popey, i can't find any informations about the Meizu UT-OS, maybe UFO, but nothing about it features.
[13:38] <popey> studio_: right, because it's not out yet
[13:39] <popey> studio_: but it's the same software, different hardware.
[13:39] <liuxg> jdstrand, ping
[13:40] <studio_> the hardware, if the meizu is using an MT6595, is totally different
[13:40] <jgdx> mpt, apt-cache policy phablet-tools # will show you versions
[13:41] <mpt> jgdx, I appear to have the latest version: 1.1+14.10.20141002-0ubuntu1
[13:41] <studio_> the mt6595 is a sink-server for miracast
[13:41] <mpt> jgdx, and that’s identified as being from the PPA
[13:41] <popey> mpt: did you look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and look for files called something.list which may have the ppa listed but commented out?
[13:41] <popey> (I have been bitten by that)
[13:42] <NIN101> can I switch the bq from stable to devel-proposed using "system-image-cli --switch devel-proposed"? If so, would this keep user data?
[13:43] <mpt> popey, phablet-team-tools-trusty.list has “deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/tools/ubuntu trusty main” uncommented
[13:44] <popey> ok
[13:44] <jgdx> mpt, indeed, seems like it's the latest.
[13:44] <jgdx> mpt, what's the citrain command you're running?
[13:44] <studio_> popey, have you seen that: http://www.wi-fi.org/product-finder-results?sort_by=certified&sort_order=desc&certifications=46&keywords=mediatek
[13:44] <mpt> jgdx, so, back to shaving the previous yak, why is it telling me that silo 36 is too high a number…
[13:45] <jgdx> popey, you know?
[13:45] <jgdx> ^
[13:45] <popey> pass
[13:45] <mpt> jgdx, “citrain device-upgrade 36”
[13:45] <popey> ask a ci expert :)
[13:45] <popey> -> #ubuntu-ci-eng
[13:45] <popey> studio_: nope
[13:45] <studio_> check the first it is the MT6595
[13:46] <studio_> Applications & Services	Miracast - Source
[13:46] <studio_> Miracast - Display
[13:47] <studio_> so it can handle both
[13:47] <popey> studio_: i look forward to seeing your miracast apps
[13:49] <jgdx> mpt, I have a date with a chain saw and a huge forest. Good luck with the yak
[13:49] <studio_> popey, i am still waiting for xmir ;)
[13:49] <mpt> thanks jgdx
[13:50] <jdstrand> liuxg: hey
[13:50] <mariogrip> awe: how to configure/build ofono for ubuntu touch (arm)?
[13:50] <mariogrip> i got some changes i want to test
[13:51] <liuxg> jdstrand, hi, I just downloaded your permy app. it is very good. at one place, I did not quite understand, and I wrote you one email. I do not quite understand this "  "/opt/**.{apparmor,json}",
[13:52] <liuxg> jdstrand, does it mean all of the files understand the "opt" directory with the extension of "apparmor" and "json"?
[13:52] <jdstrand> liuxg: it is saying that permy is allowed to look at anything under /opt that ends with .json or .apparmor
[13:53] <jdstrand> in any subdirectory
[13:53] <liuxg> jdstrand, oh, I do not know the syntax for this. thanks for explanation. I looked at your code, it is not used anywhere. is it?
[13:54] <studio_> popey, btw, how do you store, all the logs on this chat, for research?
[13:54] <popey> !logs
[13:54] <popey> hmm
[13:54] <popey> stupid bot
[13:54] <popey> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[13:54] <popey> they're there
[13:55] <jdstrand> liuxg: what do you mean 'it is not used anywhere'? you mean, you feel permy doesn't actually need that read_path?
[13:56] <awe> mariogrip, I'm just about to start a meeting ( that I lead ); can I get back to you when I finish up?
[13:56] <mariogrip> awe: yeah, sure
[13:56] <studio_> popey, do you use a script with wget for http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ to dl ?
[13:57] <liuxg> jdstrand, no, I found that it was not referred in your code.  I saw "file:///var/lib/apparmor/clicks", the path is referred, but I do not see where the directory is needed.
[13:57] <jdstrand> liuxg: right. the files in file:///var/lib/apparmor/clicks are symlinks into the click database in /opt (or /custom, etc)
[13:58] <popey> studio_: I don't, no.
[13:58] <jdstrand> liuxg: apparmor resolves symlinks (it has to for security reasons) so you need to specify the symlink target in the rules
[13:58] <studio_> popey, how can you research my old questions so fast?
[13:58] <dobey> omg
[13:58] <liuxg> jdstrand, ok. I got you. thanks for that.
[13:59] <liuxg> jdstrand, now, I understand your code better :)
[13:59] <popey> studio_: I have a good memory
[13:59] <popey> studio_: you are quite memorable.
[13:59] <kenvandine> lol
[13:59] <jdstrand> :)
[14:00] <studio_> come on, how do you store that?
[14:00] <popey> i am serious
[14:02] <studio_> when i asked you about cifs and nfs, you just made an research and gave me one minute later my old request. how did you made that?
[14:04] <mariogrip> he uses magic ;D
[14:05] <popey> studio_: http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/shia-labeouf-magic-gif.gif
[14:06] <kenvandine> i'm more amazed by popey's ability to find gifs so quickly
[14:06] <studio_> popey, so you store all logs?
[14:06] <dobey> lol
[14:06] <kenvandine> can't grep for gifs
[14:06] <dobey> ffs
[14:07] <popey> studio_: my irc client store some, yeah
[14:09] <mariogrip> he has a secret quantum computer in his basement. :)
[14:09] <popey> s/quantum computer/hp microserver/
[14:10] <studio_> maybe i missed something, but was the video-player or gallery app fixed to not store videos on the phone when it was played from an otg device?
[14:10] <dobey> i guess you would know if you tried the latest version
[14:11] <dobey> but that's a thing with content hub and not the player or gallery, i think
[14:12] <studio_> dobey, i'd like to switch back from android to ubuntu-touch, but i am not sure if it is worth ...
[14:14] <popey> studio_: only you can decide that
[14:14] <dobey> then use both, and make that determination for yourself. or don't. if there are specific bugs you want to follow, that will determine that for you, then go subscribe to the bugs on launchpad
[14:14]  * popey hugs blaroche
[14:14] <studio_> the bq E4.5 is my only touch phone, if i can get a E5 HD for a low price, it would be nice for "playing" ..
[14:14] <dobey> if there is no bug report, i can guarantee it won't be fixed though
[14:15]  * blaroche blushes
[14:17] <studio_> c
[14:18] <studio_> dobey, should every bq E4.5-User make a bug-report?
[14:19] <popey> nope
[14:19] <popey> that's just one option
[14:19] <dobey> if they encounter bugs, yes; contact bq support and have bq make the bug, or make the bug themselves if they are more technical users and want to follow status.
[14:20] <studio_> dobey, i was reading, tht a german user, is still having this problem with multi-booting from two up to ten times. and he's only a "user"
[14:20] <dobey> i don't know what you mean by multi-booting.
[14:21] <dobey> and i don't see how that is relevant to you caring about some other bug, which i guess you didn't report
[14:22] <popey> studio_: we don't ship multi-boot devices
[14:22] <popey> studio_: i a user is clever enough to be multi-booting, they're clever enough to file a bug
[14:22] <popey> if they don't file a bug, then they're probably lazy and I frankly don't care :)
[14:22] <liuxg> is there anyway to fix the orientation of the QML app in Ubuntu phone?
[14:25] <studio_> popey, i understood "when they don not file a bug", because i am here an i am not a normal end user
[14:26] <popey> there is no such thing as a "normal user"
[14:27] <studio_> popey, have you ever bought a thing online that is not working? if yes, what did you made?
[14:28] <studio_> sent back?
[14:28] <popey> I buy lots of things online, some work, some don't. Reactions differ.
[14:29] <popey> studio_: how did this german user buy ubuntu phone dual boot? bq don't sell those.
[14:30] <davmor2> popey: I think what you meant to say was <marvin> "A brain the size of a planet, and they have me watching irc" </marvin>
[14:30] <studio_> popey, he do not use dual booting! The original os is booting up to ten times
[14:30] <popey> studio_: did I misunderstand "multi-booting"?
[14:31] <studio_> no multi-boot, original os!
[14:31] <popey> studio_: I am sorry
[14:31] <popey> studio_: phone bq
[14:31] <studio_> yes
[14:31] <popey> That's the support channel. Call BQ, ask for support.
[14:31] <popey> They file bugs with us when they get customer calls.
[14:31] <popey> We read them, we fix them, their customers get the updates.
[14:32] <studio_> i know that bug, but i thought it was fixed ...
[14:41] <studio_> so i built the kernel for the E5 HD and the Ubuntu-MT6582_Android_scatter.txt is diffrerent to the Android-MT6582_Android_scatter.txt
[14:41] <studio_> same as on the bq E4.5 :)
[14:44] <NIN101> somehow, latest images of devel-proposed im emulator don't acccept clicks after the first boot settings. is this a known issue?
[15:04] <awe> mariogrip, still there?
[15:16] <mariogrip> awe, jup :)
[15:18] <Snyperskywalker> Hi !
[15:19] <Snyperskywalker> Can someone help me to begin a porting ?
[15:22] <awe> mariogrip, hey...just got off the phone;
[15:22] <mariogrip> Snyperskywalker: what you need help with? have you tried this? https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/
[15:22] <awe> did you get anywhere with trying to build ofono
[15:22] <awe> if you hadn't found it, this is a good page of reference re: ofono vcs & touch:
[15:22] <Snyperskywalker> Yes i saw the doc but i'm stuck
[15:23] <awe> mariogrip, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Telephony/ofono
[15:23] <awe> as for building, it requires bzr builddeb
[15:23] <awe> and I either build locally using sbuild: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CrossCompile
[15:23] <awe> or I build a source package and push to a PPA
[15:24] <awe> occasionally, I'll build packages on phones directly, but as I'm constantly re-flashing, that can be painful too to install all the deps
[15:24] <Snyperskywalker> I don't understood how to create my files in the device file
[15:25] <Snyperskywalker> And i have been searching for 2 days -_-
[15:25] <mariogrip> awe, yeah i was thinking about building it directly on the phone
[15:26] <awe> do you have a PPA?
[15:26] <Snyperskywalker> What it's possible ?
[15:26] <Snyperskywalker> No i don't have because i havn't create any file
[15:27] <awe> mariogrip, if you build on the phone, you just need to get all the deps installed.  abeato for instance, does native builds ( ./configure; make ) all the time
[15:27] <awe> I tend to always do full pkg builds
[15:27] <awe> you can argue the merits of both approaches.  ;)-
[15:27] <abeato> mariogrip, yep, you just need to do "apt-get build-dep ofono" previously
[15:28] <awe> let me know if you have any trouble with building on the phone.  I'm heading out in about 30m, but will be back later
[15:28] <Snyperskywalker> awe we can build ubuntu-touch directly on the phone ?
[15:28] <awe> no
[15:28] <awe> I'm talking about building individual debian packages
[15:28] <Snyperskywalker> Oh ok -_-
[15:28] <awe> specifically, ofono
[15:28] <mariogrip> awe: thanks, i will give it a try. :)
[15:28] <awe> np
[15:28] <mariogrip> Snyperskywalker: what files did not get created?
[15:29] <mariogrip> when you builds your port
[15:29] <Snyperskywalker> mariogrip: i have just download the env
[15:29] <Snyperskywalker> downloaded
[15:30] <Snyperskywalker> and now i don't know what i have to do
[15:31] <mariogrip> did you fully download the android tree?
[15:32] <Snyperskywalker> yep :)
[15:32] <mariogrip> what device are you porting to?
[15:33] <Snyperskywalker> The wiko darkside
[15:34] <mariogrip> did you add all the device specific git repositories?
[15:34] <mariogrip> and vendor files?
[15:35] <mariogrip> like example this: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_lge_mako (that is for mako device)
[15:35] <Snyperskywalker> I don't know how to have this it's my problem :)
[15:35] <Snyperskywalker> ^^
[15:35] <mariogrip> does the device have a cyanogemod port?
[15:36] <Snyperskywalker> no :'(
[15:37] <mariogrip> does it have an opensource rom to it somewhere?
[15:37] <Snyperskywalker> I just found the kernel of the device in the official ebsite
[15:37] <Snyperskywalker> but the rom
[15:37] <Snyperskywalker> ...
[15:42] <Snyperskywalker> mariogrip: i can have a rom whick look like my rom's device but i don't know if i will be work
[15:42] <Snyperskywalker> this one : https://github.com/chrmhoffmann/android_device_wiko_stairway
[15:43] <Snyperskywalker> what i have to do with that ?
[15:44] <mariogrip> that might work, but you might need to do a lot of changes.
[15:45] <mariogrip> try adding that into the android tree
[15:45] <mariogrip> this is an good guide: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro
[15:45] <Snyperskywalker> ok thanks
[15:46] <Snyperskywalker> and now i can build ?
[15:46] <Snyperskywalker> for test ?
[15:46] <Snyperskywalker> to test *
[15:47] <mariogrip> you probably need vendor files also
[15:47] <mariogrip> but it should talk about that in the guide
[15:48] <Snyperskywalker> where can i found the vendor files ?
[15:49] <mariogrip> you have to extract theme from the device
[15:49] <mariogrip> them*
[15:50] <mariogrip> did you add the device_wiko into your local_manifests?
[15:50] <Snyperskywalker> yep :)
[15:50] <mariogrip> and did you do a repo sync?
[15:50] <Snyperskywalker> yes
[15:50] <mariogrip> okay :)
[15:50] <Snyperskywalker> Where are they in the device ?
[15:51] <Snyperskywalker> oh it's in the manual
[15:51] <mariogrip> do you mean the vendor files?
[15:52] <Snyperskywalker> yes
[15:56] <mariogrip> use the extract-files.sh tool to extract them
[15:56] <mariogrip> https://github.com/chrmhoffmann/android_device_wiko_stairway/blob/cm-11.0/extract-files.sh
[15:58] <Snyperskywalker> thanks ;)
[16:00] <mariogrip> :)
[17:05] <jgdx> mpt, how'd it go?
[17:07] <jgdx> beuno, hi, the ubuntu start page
[17:08] <jgdx> beuno, any movement on that? :)
[21:12] <dadexix86> hi! bq device, r22. sometimes when I receive multiple messages on telegram the phone starts vibrating for a long time. Does it happen to someone else?
[21:37] <brunch875> it's a known bug!
[21:48] <popey> dadexix86: yeah
[21:49] <popey> it's because the phone goes back to sleep really soon after the motor starts, and it doesn't get a chance to turn off
[21:49] <popey> if you wake the phone it turns off
[21:49] <popey> no good if it's in your bag though
[21:51] <dadexix86> brunch875, popey thanks :)
[22:25] <JackH> hey how do I uninstall some of the preinstalled apps on the ubuntu phone?
[22:26] <JackH> I have bash installed
[22:26] <JackH> but I am not sure what to type/run to remove the applications correctly
[22:26] <JackH> for example, ebay, never use it, never will.
[22:30] <cwayne_> JackH, ebay isn't actually installed on the device, it's a remote scope that lives on a server
[22:30] <JackH> cwaye, I still want to get rid of that icon ;)
[22:30] <JackH> or, Cinco Dias
[22:30] <JackH> or El Pais
[22:31] <cwayne_> JackH, for a lot of those, check out /custom/click, that's where they live
[22:31] <JackH> hmm, I am not familiar with /custom/click ?
[22:31] <cwayne_> i think you can uninstall them by going to the store scope
[22:31] <JackH> I am in there now, cant find any uninstall option
[22:36] <JackH> in general, I am looking for customization option and I cant find any info anywhere. how do I set my scopes, and remove scopes and add stuff in general to my general overview. seems like everything is stuck in a certain way
[22:37] <nhaines> Add and remove scopes in the Ubuntu App Store.
[22:38] <nhaines> Customize your scopes by swiping up on the Dash.
[22:38] <nhaines> Tapping on the star to the right of a scope will favorite or unfavorite a scope, and long-pressing anywhere on the Scope customization screen will let you reorganize your favorite scopes.
[22:48] <dobey> cwayne_: the ebay webapp is an app
[22:48] <dobey> JackH: just long press on the app icon in the apps scope. you'll get the preview and then you can tap on "Uninstall" there, to uninstall an app
[22:49] <dobey> or if you go to the store scope and search for the installed app, you can tap on it in there to get the preview, and then uninstall it
[22:50] <dobey> anyway, i am now gone. later :)
[22:56] <JackH> yay works
[23:04] <nhaines> \o/
[23:04] <JackH> we need more apps and scopes
[23:07] <nhaines> Wouldn't hurt!
[23:07] <JackH> any way to hack viber into this thing btw?
[23:07] <JackH> or some other android apps?
[23:08] <nhaines> It'd probably take half a year and a small development team working constantly, and it'd break any time Android changed and the apps updated.
[23:08] <nhaines> Plus there'd be no store and anything using Google Play Services wouldn't work.
[23:08] <nhaines> It'll be interesting how that works out for Microsoft and Windows 10 Mobile.
[23:08] <JackH> yeah I was thinking exactly that
[23:09] <JackH> it was quite the statement
[23:09] <nhaines> Anyone writing a Windows Universal App is basically using HTML5 and Javascript and Cordova, and that's super easy to bring to Ubuntu (it's 90% of the way there already) so that might be a good development for Ubuntu.


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[07:09]  * hyperair wonders if it's too late for liferea 1.10.7 to enter trusty
[07:25] <Noskcaj> hyperair, try
[07:26] <Noskcaj> It's bugfixes, so it won't need an FFe.
[07:28] <hyperair> Noskcaj: great.
[07:28] <hyperair> now to nudge the liferea debian maintainer
[07:39] <dholbach> good morning
[07:42] <Noskcaj> hyperair, I think you'll have to go straight to ubuntu first
[07:44] <hyperair> Noskcaj: well there's still time i think
[07:45] <hyperair> final freeze is april 10th
[07:45] <hyperair> and liferea is unaffected by final freeze anyways, being in universe
[07:45] <hyperair> so i've got until april 17th
[07:45] <hyperair> (unless things have changed)
[10:14] <ockham> hi, could someone please add this patch to the gourmet package?
[10:14] <ockham> https://github.com/thinkle/gourmet/commit/27fac1ff642d1abc24828d267089b0a973051bcd
[14:44] <ockham> could someone please take care of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gourmet/+bug/1296757 ?
[14:44] <ockham> (patch provided)
[14:49] <mdeslaur> ockham: I'll do it, one sec
[14:55] <ockham> mdeslaur: thx a bunch!
[14:56] <mdeslaur> ockham: uploaded. yw!


[17:59] <belkinsa> #startmeeting Jan 2015 Meeting
[17:59] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan 13 17:59:32 2015 UTC.  The chair is belkinsa. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[17:59] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[17:59] <belkinsa> Who is all here for the meeting?
[17:59] <Mikaela> o/
[17:59] <Deindre> °/
[18:00]  * Deindre waves at Ubuntu Women :)
[18:00] <belkinsa> Alright.  Our agenda is here: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/Agenda?action=show
[18:00]  * belkinsa waves back
[18:00] <belkinsa> #topic Blueprint for Vivid cycle
[18:00] <belkinsa> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org/+spec/community-1411-ubuntuwomen
[18:01] <belkinsa> Does anyone have any updates before i give mine?
[18:02] <belkinsa> Okay, I will start with mine then.
[18:02] <belkinsa> #subtopic Orientation Questionnaire
[18:02] <belkinsa> For the Orientation Questionnaire, I have changed "Quiz" to "Questionnaire" and done it in the code and pushed that change. I also added the "developer or note" question to the martix, but not the code.
[18:02] <belkinsa>     Diego Turcios and Silvia Bindelli are working on coding in the new martix
[18:02] <belkinsa>     Ubuntu AskNot was released today (Jan 13th). The question is should we stop development of the questionnaire and use this or keep going?
[18:02] <belkinsa> #link http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/find-a-task/
[18:03] <belkinsa> not*
[18:03] <belkinsa> The main question is now about this AskNot thing that Ian released.  Is what we are working still needed?
[18:04] <belkinsa> Here is my reason: what we are working on is different because it's giving people questions to create a path that points to one answer based on what they answered.  The AskNot thing is different and I don't know how helpful it would be versus what we are doing.
[18:06]  * belkinsa gives another minute
[18:08] <belkinsa> Okay, I guess we will discuss this via mailing-list
[18:08] <belkinsa> #action belkinsa Start discussion about AskNot vs. questionnaire on Mailing-list
[18:08] <meetingology> ACTION: belkinsa Start discussion about AskNot vs. questionnaire on Mailing-list
[18:08] <belkinsa> Okay, moving on.
[18:09] <belkinsa> #subtopic Project Harvest
[18:09] <belkinsa> For Project Harvest, I suggested a bug reviewing sprint during the Global Jam. If we do this as a whole team, can you figure out days and times (between Feb 6th and 8th), in order for me to create a Doodle Poll. Also, use the meeting time to figure out how to do it.
[18:09] <belkinsa> #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-women/2014-December/004265.html
[18:10] <belkinsa> This is up to us to figure out on how to do this sprint and I think during the Jam is the best idea.
[18:10] <belkinsa> Maybe we can do it at 18 UTC on Friday?
[18:11] <belkinsa> Or maybe Sat or Sun?
[18:11] <Deindre> Sat or Sun sounds resonable, IMHO :)
[18:12] <belkinsa> Okay. Maybe we can use Doodle to figure out what day we can do it on, if we agree on 18 UTC.
[18:13] <belkinsa> #action belkinsa Create a Doodle poll
[18:13] <meetingology> ACTION: belkinsa Create a Doodle poll
[18:14] <belkinsa> The second part to this item/sub-topic is how are going to do this.
[18:14] <belkinsa> And do we have any bug experts here?
[18:16] <belkinsa> Alright, we can do this via mailing-list also
[18:16] <belkinsa> #action belkinsa Start discussion about the sprint
[18:16] <meetingology> ACTION: belkinsa Start discussion about the sprint
[18:16] <belkinsa> That's the end of the blueprint updates that we have.  Moving on.
[18:17] <belkinsa> #topic Any Other Business (AOB)
[18:17] <belkinsa> Does anyone have other things to talk about?
[18:17]  * Deindre ask to talk
[18:17] <belkinsa> Go head, Deindre.
[18:18] <Deindre> Thank you very much belkinsa.
[18:18] <belkinsa> Not a problem.
[18:19] <Deindre> Just a quick introduction about me: I'm Flavia, and I lead Ubuntu Women in last round
[18:19] <Deindre> I am here because I am working for a Tech Conference, Codemotion
[18:20] <belkinsa> #link http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.codemotionworld.com%2F&ei=12G1VMaZHMT8yQTTtYLQCQ&usg=AFQjCNE-if716oSo49v6gurPbn1XPd-Oog&sig2=OmdKtbl4DW254qaJZoTN_Q&bvm=bv.83339334,d.aWw
[18:20] <belkinsa> #undo
[18:20] <meetingology> Removing item from minutes: LINK
[18:20] <belkinsa> #link http://www.codemotionworld.com/
[18:20] <Deindre> this is an international conference, we have branches in Italy, Spain Germany and TelAviv, and netx Conference wil be in Rome, march 27/28
[18:21] <Deindre> as Ubuntu Women member I want share with you all this great opportunity to apply to our CFP: we are very eager to consider women applications
[18:22] <Deindre> so please if you hav some technical contents to share or you know someone who could be interested, please spread the word.
[18:23] <Deindre> http://speaker.codemotionworld.com/c4p.php
[18:23] <belkinsa> Deindre, do you also want to say this on the mailing-list?
[18:23] <Deindre> Yes, sure, :)
[18:24] <belkinsa> #action Deindre Talk About Codemotion on Mailing-list
[18:24] <meetingology> ACTION: Deindre Talk About Codemotion on Mailing-list
[18:25] <Deindre> Thank you very much: this is another way to help women engagement in tech :)
[18:25] <belkinsa> Not a problem.
[18:26] <belkinsa> I have an updated on one of my action items from  this meeting.  I have created the Doodle poll for the bug sprint: http://doodle.com/dvurdbavnyiawb4p
[18:26] <belkinsa> All times are in UTC.
[18:26] <belkinsa> I'm also willing to add other times.
[18:27] <belkinsa> #done belkinsa Create a Doodle Poll
[18:29] <belkinsa> If no one else has any other things to talk about, I would like to thank everyone who came to the meeting.
[18:30] <belkinsa> Ending meeting now....
[18:30] <belkinsa> #endmeeting
[18:30] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jan 13 18:30:47 2015 UTC.
[18:30] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-women-project/2015/ubuntu-women-project.2015-01-13-17.59.moin.txt
[18:32] <Deindre> thank you all


[03:23] <handsome_feng> tsimonq2: Hi,I have updated the kylin-burner and upload to the ppa. BTW, Do you know how to  expand my PPU right to those new UKUI/Kylin packages?
[03:24] <tsimonq2> handsome_feng: I can take a look at the PPA within the next hour or two and get that uploaded.
[03:24] <handsome_feng> Thanks!
[03:24] <tsimonq2> handsome_feng: And as far as upload rights go, you can email the devel-permissions list and they can take care of that for you.
[03:25] <handsome_feng> Got it! Thanks again! :)
[03:25] <tsimonq2> Thanks :)
[04:50] <tsimonq2> handsome_feng: kylin-burner has been uploaded.
[04:50] <tsimonq2> handsome_feng: Anything else?
[05:41] <handsome_feng> tsimonq2: No, The ukui-window-switch are still waiting for ukwm, thanks!
[05:42] <tsimonq2> handsome_feng: OK cool, thanks!
[05:42] <tsimonq2> handsome_feng: And you plan to get these into Debian, right?
[05:43] <handsome_feng> Yes, and another man(happyaron) are doing that
[05:44] <tsimonq2> Awesome!
[05:46] <handsome_feng> :P


[19:32] <dbuechler> Hi All!   I built a custom image for CentOS 7 because the stock images weren't reading metadata correctly. However, it's not resizing correctly and I'm wondering if I built it wrong.  Anything I should avoid? LVM, xfs, etc?
[21:18] <smoser> dbuechler, kernel version?
[21:18] <dbuechler> Errrr 3.10?
[21:18] <smoser> in a kernel > 3.8, cloud-init's "growpart" module calls growpart <root-device> <root-partition>
[21:19] <smoser> and then resize_root module calls resizefs /
[21:19] <smoser> or the equivalent.
[21:19] <smoser> you need growpart to do it.
[21:19] <dbuechler> So, I need to have growpart installed... in CentOS, growpart is in cloud-utils-growpart (
[21:19] <dbuechler> I think)
[21:19] <smoser> right.
[21:19] <smoser> so that has to be there.
[21:20] <smoser> and growpart only knows ow to resize mbr or gpt
[21:20] <smoser> it can't lvm grow
[21:20] <dbuechler> AH!
[21:20] <smoser> patches will be welcome for that.
[21:20] <dbuechler> Ok.  No LVM.  Good to know.
[21:20] <dbuechler> I appreciate the insight.
[21:21] <smoser> i dont knwo if xfs will work or not.
[21:21] <smoser> i'd have to look.
[21:21] <smoser> i think we would try
[21:21] <smoser> but you'd then need xfs-utils
[21:22] <dbuechler> I'm pretty sure xfs-utils is installed by default in "Minimal System" configuration, but I'll double-check.
[21:22] <dbuechler> I'll let you know after I rebuild the VM this afternoon.
[21:23] <dbuechler> There is an issue with the stock version of python-six in CentOS 7.  I filed a bug report on it.
[21:27] <smoser> you filed bug in cloud-init ?
[21:30] <dbuechler> Yes. I'm not sure there's anything you can really do about it except update documentation.
[21:30] <dbuechler> It was mostly an FYI.
[21:36] <smoser> dbuechler, well, i'm guessing we could do something.
[21:37] <dbuechler> smoser: I also filed another one regarding 'make rpm' on a tarball of 0.7.6 downloaded from cloud-init.  make-tarball bombs complaining that the directory is not a branch.
[21:38] <smoser> hm.. just use the bzr branch i guess.
[21:39] <dbuechler> smoser: Re six - I included my workaround in the bug report... I used pip to upgrade six (it went to 1.9.0) and that solved my problem.
[21:40] <dbuechler> Can you use bzr to get 0.7.6?  I'm new to bzr, so I hadn't figured that part out yet.
[21:41] <smoser> yeah.
[21:41] <smoser> bzr branch lp:cloud-init
[21:41] <smoser> cd cloud-init
[21:41] <smoser> cd ..
[21:41] <smoser> bzr branch -r 0.7.6 cloud-init 0.7.6
[21:42] <dbuechler> Ah!  Good to know.  Thank you.
[21:44] <dbuechler> I have to run. I'll let you know how that new image works out. Thank you for your time.