[06:21] <bruenig> ardchoille, which one? the download upload meters
[06:21] <h1st0> siimo: well you can just install it from synaptic or sudo aptitude install conky
[06:21] <ardchoille> bruenig: Oh, I think it's conky
[06:22] <h1st0> siimo: the configuration file will be created after you run it in your home folder .conkyrc  you edit that to chang the way it appears etc...
[06:22] <acid_phyre> is automatix down?
[06:22] <bruenig> Ironman273, linux is the general name of all the distros based on the linux kernel, ubuntu is based on debian, gnome is a desktop environment that can be run on any distro including ubuntu
[06:22] <bruenig> ardchoille, right, that was what I was showing
[06:22] <bruenig> acid_phyre, thankfully
[06:22] <h1st0> acid_phyre: yes
[06:23] <acid_phyre> whys that
[06:23] <h1st0> acid_phyre: just install the easier way.
[06:23] <acid_phyre> what happened
[06:23] <acid_phyre> easier lol
[06:23] <h1st0> acid_phyre: who knows.  ITs not supported here.
[06:23] <siimo> h1st0: i meant forum link
[06:23] <h3h_timo> could anyone explain to me how to optimize ubuntu's bootup process for a dual core machine??
[06:23] <bruenig> acid_phyre, ice storm knocked out their host
[06:23] <acid_phyre> how is automatix not easy
[06:23] <h1st0> acid_phyre: yes easier.  Considering I can install everything automatix did in a single command.
[06:23] <bruenig> acid_phyre, god hates automatix
[06:23] <Ironman273> bruenig: So roughly it's Linux -> Debian -> Ubuntu which can branch out to Gnome or KDE (with kubuntu)?
[06:23] <TheShrewdDude> Ok, so I installed realplayer for my RM files.
[06:23] <lorens> h3h_timo l like that question!
[06:24] <TheShrewdDude> When it plays them, it screws up the pitch so that everything sounds like cows.
[06:24] <TheShrewdDude> How can I fix this?
[06:24] <bruenig> Ironman273, yeah, and gnome and kde can go on debian too
[06:24] <bruenig> it is just like a piece of software
[06:24] <bruenig> that goes on any distro
[06:24] <acid_phyre> hlst0: can i pm you?
[06:24] <bruenig> !enter | bruenig
[06:24] <h3h_timo> lorens, any ideas?
[06:25] <GottferDamnt> how restart alsa plz?
[06:25] <Ironman273> bruenig: OK, sorry for the dumb questions, I'm just hoping to understand it better.
[06:25] <lorens> h3h I have no clue. gave up on 64 bit and running 386 on my amd dual core.
[06:25] <bruenig> GottferDamnt, I have always done sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart, not sure if that works or not or is the right way but it looked right
[06:25] <bruenig> Ironman273, no problem
[06:26] <crimsun> that only (re)store mixer levels.
[06:26] <crimsun> +s
[06:26] <bruenig> finally I am corrected
[06:26] <crimsun> GottferDamnt probably needs to unload all the alsa drivers, remove the state file, and reload his driver.
[06:26] <crimsun> (reading backscroll)
[06:27] <crimsun> GottferDamnt: what's the issue?
[06:28] <lorens> h3h are you on intel?
[06:28] <Ironman273> Does Ubuntu have a built-in firewall?
[06:28] <Ironman273> !firewall
[06:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:29] <IcemanV9> Ironman273: yes. iptables
[06:29] <acid_phyre> whats so wrong about automatix
[06:29] <emet> whats a good gtk rss feed reader
[06:29] <IcemanV9> !automatix | acid_phyre
[06:29] <ubotu> acid_phyre: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:29] <Ironman273> IcemanV9: Thanks, getting used to the bot.  I'm new at IRC also. :)
[06:29] <cellofellow> I've been using Fluxbox in conjunction with ROX, and it's been causing X to randomly go crazy, peg the CPU, and effectively freeze the system. Only thing I can do is SSH in and sudo killall -9 Xorg. Why would it be doing this and how do I fix it?
[06:30] <cellofellow> (sorry, I had to go for a little while)
[06:30] <Shrimpy> hello everyone
[06:30] <bruenig> Ironman273, if you do /msg ubotu firewall (or any other thing) it will tell you in pm
[06:30] <acid_phyre> so installing threw synaptic is better then
[06:30] <bruenig> !apt-get | acid_phyre
[06:30] <ubotu> acid_phyre: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:30] <Shrimpy> i have a comprehensive sound problem, any one want to try and help me take care of this?
[06:30] <emet> whats a good gtk rss feed reader?
[06:30] <Ironman273> bruenig: Cool, thanks
[06:30] <bruenig> !info liferea
[06:30] <ubotu> liferea: feed aggregator for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.23-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 734 kB, installed size 2224 kB
[06:31] <emet> bruenig, thanks, installed :P
[06:31] <cellofellow> anyone?
[06:31] <Ironman273> bruenig: Do you recommend Firestarter to config the firewall?
[06:31] <turbolover> wow, edgy eft works much better for me off the bat than dapper
[06:31] <bruenig> Ironman273, yeah
[06:32] <turbolover> and i thought it was the buggy one
[06:32] <Ironman273> bruenig: It's not in synaptic, how do I get it?
[06:32] <bruenig> !info firestarter
[06:32] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 383 kB, installed size 1884 kB
[06:32] <cellofellow> am I just in the wrong place?
[06:32] <IcemanV9> !repo | Ironman273
[06:32] <ubotu> Ironman273: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:32] <Shrimpy> i heard fiesty fawn is already pretty stable for be unmature
[06:32] <emet> !tilda
[06:32] <ubotu> tilda: Linux terminal which behaves like terminals in shooter games. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.09.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 32 kB, installed size 148 kB
[06:33] <bruenig> Ironman273, do "sudo sed 's/# deb/deb/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firestarter" make sure you close synaptic before doing that
[06:33] <turbolover> anyone here use vmware? i am trying to install the server and the script acts like a previous install has been detected
[06:33] <emet> !vmware
[06:33] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[06:33] <burepe> Can someone tell me how to enable modules in php?
[06:33] <emet> :o
[06:33] <IcemanV9> turbolover: clean install or upgrade from dapper? just curious
[06:33] <section31> what's the easiest way to install mplayer with all the codecs...i tried using apt-get and I keep getting this error when trying to open a video error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device
[06:33] <bruenig> !mplayer | section31 I think you may need to compile
[06:33] <ubotu> section31 I think you may need to compile: mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[06:34] <bruenig> oh they changed that factoid
[06:34] <Shrimpy> i purged my linux-sound-base and it reinstalled it then i did the driver and then it still detects nothing
[06:34] <Ironman273> bruenig: Thanks it's installing
[06:34] <section31> !codecs
[06:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:34] <turbolover> iceman clean install, i got frustrated after an update screwed up my ati drivers and tried to use my windows restore cd and it got partway through nuking my drive and stopped working so i decided to try edgy eft
[06:34] <acid_phyre> search w32 on synaptic
[06:34] <kalorin_> ok so lets just say I don't want pppoe installed?
[06:34] <acid_phyre> and get vlc player
[06:34] <kalorin_> and if I select it and tell it I want it removed, then it says it's going ot have to remove xubuntu-desktop?
[06:34] <kalorin_> what's up with that/
[06:34] <bruenig> section31, maybe this will help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[06:35] <fitren> ^.&
[06:35] <cellofellow> kalorin: don't worry about it, it's normal. If all it wants to remove is xubuntu-desktop, you're fine.
[06:35] <Ironman273> bruenig: Once it completes, where does it put it?
[06:35] <fitren> ^.^
[06:35] <IcemanV9> turbolover: eck. sorry about that. at least, you said it rocks (now). :)
[06:35] <section31> bruenig,well i installed it, i just need to get it working correctly
[06:35] <section31> with the codec pack
[06:35] <bruenig> Ironman273, it will be in the menus, it might be in system>administration
[06:35] <kalorin_> seriously?
[06:35] <kalorin_> I mean what happens with the desktop gone?
[06:36] <turbolover> well, i still want windows out of itnerest of running games and someo ther stuff that wine is just no reliable for
[06:36] <kalorin_> sure SOUNDS important :)
[06:36] <kalorin_> you're using wine?
[06:36] <kalorin_> why not just vmware it?
[06:36] <IcemanV9> kalorin_: it's just a meta package; you'll be fine ;)
[06:36] <kalorin_> ah ok
[06:36] <burepe> Kalorin_ the package was probably the part of the xubuntu base install
[06:36] <kalorin_> yeah it was
[06:36] <burepe> oh ok
[06:36] <kalorin_> doing some installing right now
[06:36] <ardchoille> kalorin_: that package is just a meta package and is safe to remove. But, you need to reinstalll it if you plan to upgrade to a newer ubuntu
[06:36] <kalorin_> this is getting to be pretty useful
[06:36] <bruenig> section31, right but when you compile it normally, don't you have to have the codec libraries on the computer first, so if ubuntu has a precompiled version that didn't have all the codecs there when they compiled them, you wouldn't be able to get it to work, (this is all assuming that you needed to have the codecs before compiling normally which I think is true but am not sure)
[06:37] <gop> !ati
[06:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:37] <mykhul> hey whats up guys
[06:37] <kalorin_> interesting, so uninstall it
[06:37] <kalorin_> that's cool
[06:37] <kalorin_> thanks
[06:37] <Shrimpy> hi
[06:37] <ardchoille> hi
[06:37] <mykhul> i've been on ubuntu for like 3 weeks now
[06:37] <bruenig> !howdy
[06:37] <ubotu> Hi!  My 8 year old niece uses Ubuntu :)
[06:38] <Shrimpy> awesome same here i gave up on windows
[06:38] <Shrimpy> THATS AWESOME
[06:38] <h3h_timo> lorens, yeah, i have a core duo
[06:38] <mykhul> funny... i bought windows xp from newegg... and before i even got it in the mail i installed ubuntu
[06:38] <brophat> I use slackware, and a pain thing is burning cd's and dvd's. does ubuntu make it easy?
[06:39] <mykhul> i have not tried to burn dvds/cds yet
[06:39] <bruenig> mykhul, bought xp? are you not aware of something called p2p
[06:39] <Shrimpy> depends on the application
[06:39] <kalorin_> shrimpy, I'm basically going to give it a week or so to see how much I can and can't do in it
[06:39] <kalorin_> and then make the call if I want to wait another few months or whatever
[06:39] <mykhul> bruenig, this was the first time i ever purchased such a thing
[06:39] <ardchoille> brophat: I just insert a blank cd/dvd and let gnomebaker take over. It's pretty easy.
[06:39] <kalorin_> I've been trying very hard to find open source cross platform utilities for things for about 2 years now under windows
[06:39] <mykhul> my nick name in the hood is mike the hacker
[06:39] <kalorin_> xchat and such
[06:39] <bruenig> brophat, it is easy, you can use cdrecord or growisofs or if you must graphical apps like gnomebaker or k3b
[06:39] <brophat> ardchoille ok so gnomebaker would be the app
[06:40] <acid_phyre> is it possible to run a newsleecher on unix?
[06:40] <gop> in gnome all I am getting is 800 x 600 resoultion
[06:40] <gop> why
[06:40] <ardchoille> brophat: That's what I use, but lots of people say k3b is the best.
[06:40] <lorens> h3h i have wondered if there is any way to take advantage of it. something that can assign affinity. or is it just up to having threaded apps?
[06:40] <bruenig> !fixres | gop
[06:40] <mykhul> i got 1600x1200 but i think it looks kind of dull
[06:40] <ubotu> gop: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:40] <brophat> bruenig the problem with that is dvd content comes differently
[06:40] <Shrimpy> yeah kalorin it seems the only things that you can not get is some games. but if you buy cedega it makes it pretty good. wine sucks
[06:40] <TheShrewdDude> a configure script tells me I don't have gtk devel packages
[06:40] <brophat> sometimes you get the iso, sometimes you don't
[06:40] <dftpnkezln> hey everyone, i need to install some support for the heat/fan sensors on my laptop, how would i go about doing this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Asus_M6VA,Z70VA#Sensors
[06:40] <TheShrewdDude> how can I get them?
[06:40] <TheShrewdDude> sudo apt-get install gtk?
[06:40] <gop> bruenig,  thanks
[06:40] <dftpnkezln> or is it advisable etc
[06:40] <brophat> sometimes it is an avi file etc............
[06:40] <kalorin_> games and things like photoshop
[06:41] <kalorin_> that's going to bother me a little
[06:41] <atrain> whats the state of PCI hotplug? eg: what would happen if I yanked a card right now?
[06:41] <Shrimpy> well they are things just like photoshop
[06:41] <mykhul> i miss ph otoshop
[06:41] <mykhul> but i work a lot at an office that has it
[06:41] <IcemanV9> during the installation process, i accidently pressed alt+tab and it stopped installing .. how do i restart it again (without reinstall again)?
[06:41] <kelsin> TheShrewdDude: ussually dev pacakges have -dev on the end of them
[06:41] <bruenig> TheftOfLife, sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[06:41] <kalorin_> shrimpy, I'm going to try to vmware xp on this machine and see how that goes
[06:41] <turbolover> !vmware
[06:41] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[06:41] <bruenig> brophat, you need to convert the avi before burning it
[06:41] <crimsun> atrain: you'd likely be (re)purchasing new hardware.
[06:42] <monday> how well will ubuntu run on a G3?
[06:42] <brophat> bruenig ok there in lies the complication
[06:42] <bruenig> brophat, there are some command line apps that I scripted to do it, and then after all that work, I found an application called devede that will do it, take avis, convert them, and then burn them
[06:42] <brophat> bruenig and you may get the dvd file in even different formats. I guess I am looking for a simple to use gui driven program
[06:42] <Shrimpy> i mean i still like windows but get annoying that it bogs down and get's retared with spyware and virus, no matter what the protection is
[06:43] <mindstate> how could i change which port the native bittorrent client is using? 6881 is blacklisted by the tracker i want to us
[06:43] <ardchoille> bruenig: devede is a great app :)
[06:43] <mindstate> use*
[06:43] <rkvirani> I just installed kubuntu-desktop ontop of an xubuntu install
[06:43] <bruenig> devede is awesome, just pissed me off after my scripts
[06:43] <rkvirani> how do I get rid of the xubuntu stuff?
[06:43] <kalorin_> wow, nice page
[06:43] <kalorin_> help page for vmware
[06:43] <brophat> i think what I have found out here is that gnomebaker is the app that  will take care of your burning needs with ease?
[06:44] <kalorin_> I figure linux is light weight enough I can likely give a vmware instance 768meg of ram and be fine on 256 for linux
[06:44] <acid_phyre> can anyone tell me whats the command to install java?
[06:44] <bruenig> brophat, gnomebaker is inferior to k3b
[06:44] <bruenig> acid_phyre, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[06:44] <brophat> ok will look up k3b haha
[06:44] <Shrimpy> use the package manager.
[06:44] <bruenig> acid_phyre, or are you looking for the plugin
[06:44] <acid_phyre> just the main one
[06:44] <bruenig> brophat, but it won't allow you to burn avis to dvd, except as data of course
[06:45] <acid_phyre> dont have it at all
[06:45] <Shrimpy> hey anybody here know about alsa?
[06:45] <bruenig> acid_phyre, right jre, then do the plugin
[06:45] <Quintin> Shrimpy: just ask a question.  thanks.
[06:45] <bruenig> Shrimpy, crimsun does
[06:45] <mindstate> how could i change which port the native bittorrent client is using? 6881 is blacklisted by the tracker i want to use
[06:45] <Laser> I have two 80GB SATA drives and a 40GB ide drive, can anyone tell me the best way to partition them?
[06:45] <dftpnkezln> guys, noob question - is it possible to change the kernel settings (i want to add support for my hardware sensors) without completely recompiling it?
[06:45] <bruenig> mindstate, you need to change it in the client, what client are you using?
[06:46] <Shrimpy> well, i am not getting sound, i used to so i purged my llinux base sound and i reinstall it.  then i try to install the driver and i get nothing
[06:46] <bruenig> Laser, what are you trying to do, dual boot or what
[06:46] <brophat> bruenig sometimes dvds come with those separate files for different chapters. k3b can handle that?
[06:46] <Shrimpy> so do i need alsa installed before i install the driver. i'm following this site http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=comprehensive+sound
[06:47] <Laser> No, I'm not dual booting I just want to make the best use of hard drives
[06:47] <ardchoille> brophat: If you're going to rip dvd movies, I would recommend http://dvdshrink.sourceforge.net  I've never had it fail on a dvd.
[06:47] <Quintin> Laser: Do you have any particular goal?
[06:47] <bruenig> brophat, k3b will burn data, or it will burn isos, or it will make music cds, it doesn't take vobs or whatever else and convert them, so if the separate chapters are in the .iso, then yes fine, if it is separate then no
[06:47] <bruenig> brophat, using mkiso though you can create an iso from a dvd file structure
[06:47] <Quintin> Laser: what is the rest of your hw specs?
[06:47] <mindstate> bruenig, im using the live -cd some im using the ubuntu native bt client
[06:48] <brophat> ok
[06:48] <dftpnkezln> anyone?
[06:48] <bruenig> mindstate, Yeah that is very limited I believe, I am not sure where that configuration is
[06:48] <mindstate> bruenig, that stinks lol
[06:48] <dftpnkezln> can you guys suggest a channel where they could tell me if its possible?
[06:48] <Laser> amd 3000, 1 gb ram
[06:48] <Shrimpy> crimsun i was wondering if you could help me set up my sound driver. i've been messing with it for a while and i'm getting fustrated
[06:48] <Quintin> Laser: you just want to use all available space?  Or do you want RAID?
[06:48] <brophat> basicaly then ubuntu has no new majic software for burning dvd's i
[06:48] <Laser> to use all available space
[06:49] <Quintin> Laser: make it all into 1 big LVM drive then
[06:49] <dftpnkezln> sigh
[06:49] <crimsun> Shrimpy: do you have the requested info from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems pastebinned?
[06:49] <Laser> LVM drive?
[06:49] <Quintin> Laser: yes
[06:50] <Laser> How do I do that with the partition manager?
[06:50] <Quintin> Laser: 'physical volume for lvm'
[06:50] <Quintin> Laser: then configure lvm
[06:50] <kalorin_> so how come there's no bash package?
[06:50] <Quintin> Laser: I'd use the alternate install disc actually.  not sure how to do it with GUI tools
[06:50] <Shrimpy> thanks crimsun i'll work with that site
[06:51] <IcemanV9> bash is installed by default
[06:51] <kalorin_> ahok
[06:51] <bruenig> brophat, look it up on the forums, I have a lot of experience with it. It is pretty easy once you get it down.
[06:51] <kalorin_> I wondered, didn't see it in the package list
[06:51] <Laser> is the alternate install disk another iso i have to burn?
[06:51] <brophat> yeah i have used mkiso
[06:51] <IcemanV9> apt-cache policy bash
[06:51] <Quintin> Laser: yea.  the partitioning in it lets you setup RAID or LVM.  not sure if regular one does
[06:52] <hwdyki> how do i clear the local apt cache?
[06:52] <cafuegr> !info bash
[06:52] <ubotu> bash: The GNU Bourne Again SHell. In component main, is required. Version 3.1-5ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 771 kB, installed size 1852 kB
[06:53] <Quintin> hwdyki: man apt-get
[06:53] <cafuegr> kalorin_: it's certainly there
[06:53] <ardchoille> hwdyki: sudo apt-get clean
[06:53] <foxiness> hi,i want to let ff save my session after close the app and return the last session on next start,i read the ff 2.0 come with built-in save-session ,how can i enable it? "i can not find it on tab  under edit>preferences"
[06:53] <cafuegr> hwdyki: 'sudo apt-get (auto-)clean'
[06:53] <brophat> bruenig isn't the command mkisofs ??
[06:53] <Shrimpy> when someone types information on the command line and they use "$" in the begining what does that mean i know "#" (means in root or sudo)
[06:53] <hwdyki> thank you.
[06:53] <bruenig> brophat, yeah
[06:53] <mikejanssen> hola ubuntu-ers!
[06:53] <emet> what does the -y trigger do on apt-get ?
[06:53] <mikejanssen> = X
[06:53] <cafuegr> Shrimpy: If they type a $ they're using a variable.
[06:54] <Quintin> Shrimpy: ?  That is just a bash prompt  it can also be variable, or something to be expanded
[06:54] <mikejanssen> i wish that there was a canon mp150 driver = X
[06:54] <mikejanssen> then my linux would be complete
[06:54] <cafuegr> emet: ansers 'y' to any questions apt might ask about overwriting, continuing, etc.
[06:54] <Ironman273> Why would I be getting a "Unable to initialize HAL!" error at bootup?
[06:54] <kalorin_> synaptic is pretty nice
[06:54] <Shrimpy> ok thanks so i should pay attention to it becasue i'll have to change something
[06:54] <kalorin_> I might have to replace debian on my server with ubuntu
[06:54] <burepe> Can someone tell me how to enable modules in php?
[06:54] <kalorin_> or maybe a graphical version of linux :)
[06:54] <kalorin_> ol' grinch is all command line
[06:54] <Quintin> burepe: such as?
[06:55] <mikejanssen> how do i get rid of a kernal? i think i have 2 loaded...default and 386...
[06:55] <Quintin> kalorin_: you can have graphics on debian ..
[06:55] <kalorin_> yeah of course
[06:55] <Quintin> mikejanssen: apt
[06:55] <mikejanssen> ...
[06:55] <mikejanssen> ?
[06:55] <kalorin_> I just never bothered, all it does is run apache/php/ftp/mail and a few other things
[06:55] <brophat> what was the command to actually burn the iso to the dvd?
[06:55] <burepe> Quintin: --with-curl  --with-openssl  --with-dom  --with-zlib
[06:55] <kalorin_> if I had an x client then it'd be worth running x on it ;)
[06:55] <cafuegr> burepe: Install them and add them in php.ini if required.
[06:55] <Quintin> burepe: use the packages.
[06:55] <Laser> Is there another way I could partition without doing LVM, it looks complicated
[06:56] <kalorin_> otherwise 14" CRT and a crappy video card isn't worth much
[06:56] <Quintin> Laser: not if you want to use all the space available.
[06:56] <kalorin_> yeah here's a question
[06:56] <Quintin> Laser: You might do 1 sata for / 1 sata for /home
[06:56] <kalorin_> bought 2x400gb drives
[06:56] <burepe> synaptic?
[06:56] <kalorin_> set them up in the bios of the motherboard to be mirrored
[06:56] <mikejanssen> Quintin, what you mean 'apt'
[06:56] <kalorin_> went to install and did, and poof, grub blew up
[06:56] <kalorin_> had to unmirror them to get it to boot
[06:56] <Quintin> mikejanssen: the package manager.  you can use it to get rid of packages
[06:56] <kalorin_> now what can I do with the other drive to get a mirror set up that's fault tolerant?
[06:56] <kalorin_> lvm?
[06:57] <burepe> cafueger Quintin synaptic right?
[06:57] <kalorin_> synaptic is a nice GUI front end for apt
[06:57] <kalorin_> I like that it shows you all the packages that are out there
[06:57] <Laser> okay, well thanks for the help
[06:57] <omeil> umm does anyone know where wine install the programs?
[06:57] <kalorin_> and lets you pick rather than having to guess or research names
[06:58] <Quintin> burepe: apt-cache search php5 | grep <blah>
[06:58] <Quintin> omeil: ~/.wine/drive_c/
[06:58] <Quintin> kalorin_: You probably need MBR on the other one to have grub
[06:58] <kalorin_> other one?
[06:58] <studeringaaron> hi everybody
[06:58] <kalorin_> ah you mean mirror that too?
[06:58] <Shrimpy> crimsun: i'm having problems in the very begining.(sorry) but it says to do modinfo  [modulename]    what do i put for the modulename   the driver is (hda-intel)
[06:58] <kalorin_> could you just dd them?
[06:59] <kalorin_> and sync that way and then mirror them?
[06:59] <Quintin> kalorin_: other drive.  I'm also 90% sure you don't have raid if it's in the bios.  that's usually not real raid.  just set it to be normal drives and use linux sw raid if you're gonna do that
[06:59] <kalorin_> though I understand that it's just software raid anyway
[06:59] <kalorin_> yeah that's what i'm thinking too
[06:59] <Quintin> kalorin_: if you want a backup you can do rsync daily or twice daily
[06:59] <crimsun> Shrimpy: modinfo snd-hda-intel
[06:59] <kalorin_> well i was thinking dd it to start, then rsync as needed
[06:59] <kalorin_> that should take care of it
[07:00] <kalorin_> at least then I could just unhook a dead drive and reboot
[07:00] <Shrimpy> crimsun: it says cound not find module
[07:00] <Quintin> kalorin_: rsync or cp -a ..
[07:00] <crimsun> Shrimpy: what did you type?
[07:00] <kalorin_> well, dd would set up the partitions and stuff just the same
[07:00] <kalorin_> riht?
[07:00] <whta> hi, is it possible for me to have both KDE and gnome in a single ubuntu install? i have gnome but i want to see what KDE is like
[07:00] <kalorin_> right?
[07:00] <Quintin> kalorin_: yes and no
[07:00] <kalorin_> whta sure
[07:01] <kalorin_> the drivers are the same model and size
[07:01] <Quintin> whta: yea that's fine.
[07:01] <Shrimpy> crimsun:
[07:01] <Shrimpy> modinfo snd-hda-intel
[07:01] <Quintin> kalorin_: you can maybe do that, it's not what I would do though.
[07:01] <whta> ok, where should i go to properly add this then?
[07:01] <kalorin_> I'll just software raid it
[07:02] <h1st0> whta: well you could install kubuntu-desktop to get the full experience or just kde up to your.
[07:02] <Quintin> kalorin_: be sure you install GRUB on both discs.  if one dies, you should be able to take it out, and reboot.  The array will be in 'degraded' mode then, and you can hotadd another disk if it's partitioned properly
[07:02] <Quintin> whta: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:02] <whta> will that affect my current install at all?
[07:02] <Quintin> whta: yes
[07:03] <whta> quintin: more importantly, i guess, will it make anything i have NOW no longer work? i want to easily be able to toggle between the 2
[07:03] <cables> All my fonts in OpenOffice look pretty ugly. Fonts look fine in any other application, as well as in OpenOffice on Windows. Does anyone have any ideas?
[07:04] <Quintin> whta: there's about a 0.1% chance of that happening.
[07:04] <Quintin> cables: new monitor ^-)
[07:04] <Shrimpy> crimsun: when using that website i' not getting very much info. as in i get errors
[07:04] <cables> Quintin, :)
[07:05] <whta> quintin: ok then. so will i be able to choose between gnome and KDE in the sessions at login?
[07:05] <omeil> hmm Jedi Knight outcast runs good on Wine no flaws at all :) except it dosen't like me sound card lol
[07:05] <Quintin> whta: yes.
[07:05] <Quintin> omeil: winecfg > use emulation, and OSS
[07:06] <kalorin_> sound is overrated :)
[07:06] <omeil> that makes no sence to me :)
[07:06] <Quintin> omeil: run winecfg
[07:06] <omeil> k
[07:06] <whta> another question: half the time when i start up linux i have no sound. a restart or two usually fixes this, but it's very irritating having to restart to get sound. anyone have an idea what might cause this?
[07:07] <omeil> oh didn't know it had a cfg lol :D
[07:07] <turbolover> yes! vmware runnign winxp within ubuntu! games!
[07:07] <cables> whta, is it in any particular app?
[07:07] <studeringaaron> i had no sound when  I tried fedora core but havent had t6ha tprob with ubuntu
[07:07] <Quintin> turbolover: there are a lot of linux games.   I don't think you have hardware 3d with vmware
[07:08] <whta> cables: no. usually i just listen for the little bongo clip that should come up when the login screen loads. if i don't hear that, then NO sound AT ALL works anywhere.
[07:08] <Quintin> whta: what hardware ?
[07:08] <cables> whta, no idea then there.
[07:08] <Quintin> whta: paste your lspci and lspci -n @ http://daecom.biz/paste/
[07:08] <brophat> does the website talk about what the new feartures are for the new versions?
[07:08] <omeil> k now for the test
[07:08] <omeil> a sound card has not been detected in your system :(
[07:08] <turbolover> quintin right, but civ4 does NOT run in linux
[07:09] <turbolover> and i like my civ 4
[07:09] <whta> quintin: http://daecom.biz/paste/?q=22
[07:09] <turbolover> cedega wouldnt be bad if i didnt have to suscribe to it
[07:09] <burepe> cafueger Quintin curl is the only package I can find
[07:10] <turbolover> oh yeah defcon doesnt work for it either
[07:10] <chorse> turbolover: http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/screenshots/images/948.jpg
[07:10] <Quintin> turbolover: you can get it from cvs.
[07:10] <Quintin> whta: lspci -n
[07:10] <tehxed> I need help with an fglrx issue, I have an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M and when I type in fglrxinfo in terminal, i get the error   Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". display: :0.0  screen: 0     I followed the tutorual/instructions from  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Install_the_8.34.8_Driver_Manually
[07:11] <kalorin> ah yes, now that's better
[07:11] <kalorin> at least it's basically the same as my other systems :)
[07:11] <kalorin> tabs on top for channels only, users on the right
[07:11] <kalorin> very nice, love xchat
[07:11] <arrenlex> tehxed: Add "dri" to your modules list in xorg.conf
[07:11] <momo521> im using Sabayon distro and i need help..can someone help me?  im having troubles with my built in wireless card
[07:11] <Quintin> tehxed: paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and your /etc/X11/xorg.conf please
[07:12] <G2k> hey guys does anyone here have a ipw2200 wireless card?
[07:12] <tehxed> Load "dri" under Modules?
[07:12] <cables> momo521, this is the wrong place to ask.
[07:12] <brophat> LTS costs money?
[07:12] <momo521> well no one is in the other channel
[07:12] <Quintin> brophat: ... no.  ...
[07:12] <momo521> i tried there first
[07:12] <whta> quintin: http://daecom.biz/paste/?q=23
[07:12] <cables> brophat, support costs money, LTS just means that commercial support is available for longer.
[07:13] <brophat> oh ok
[07:13] <studeringaaron> sorry to interupt but can anyone direct me to where I can find out about gettin my 56k modem to work
[07:13] <arrenlex> tehxed: Yep. If you don't understand that, better follow this:
[07:13] <arrenlex> !ati | tehxed
[07:13] <ubotu> tehxed: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:13] <tehxed> Quintin: second
[07:13] <Quintin> studeringaaron: buy a real modem.
[07:13] <studeringaaron> nope im cheap
[07:13] <brophat> so if you paid for support, and you downloaded LTS, then your support for the same money will last longer
[07:13] <Quintin> studeringaaron: it's not happening.
[07:13] <studeringaaron> its for my laptop when I travel actually
[07:13] <Quintin> brophat: no.  it just means updates will continue to be released
[07:14] <brophat> ok
[07:14] <Quintin> brophat: support iirc is a flat fee, yearly
[07:14] <whta> quintin: http://daecom.biz/paste/?q=23
[07:14] <brophat> support iirc?
[07:14] <brophat> you mean support on irc?
[07:14] <Quintin> whta: hm.. really odd.  sb live should be well supported.  I use it on my desktop along with intel hda
[07:14] <Quintin> !iirc
[07:14] <ubotu> IIRC means "if I remember correctly"
[07:15] <Quintin> ^^
[07:15] <fletch007> new install, wont boot unless. I go into recovery mode and sudo startx at the command prompt? any ideas? if I just let it boot in gets to the logon screen the cursor blinks three time then the system hangs. ??
[07:15] <brophat> oh ok hahahahha funny... sorry
[07:15] <whta> quintin: that's what's confusing me. I know the card works fine since sound DOES work.. it's just a game of chance whether or not it will decide to on the given startup
[07:15] <Quintin> fletch007: what video card and drivers?
[07:15] <brophat> IIRC is bad to use on irc
[07:15] <fletch007> its nvidia 5500 fx and default drives from the install
[07:16] <Quintin> fletch007: paste your Xorg logs and conf files
[07:16] <fletch007> i had to do a text install as well as the live dvd would not boot same thing just hangs
[07:17] <fletch007> I would love to do that , but don't know how yet. I am a complete newbie like 2 hours old
[07:17] <omeil> hmm quintin do i turn driver emulation on. or do u just select emulation only
[07:17] <kalorin> !wmware
[07:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:17] <brophat> I like the fact that you can upgrade to latest version easily
[07:17] <tehxed> Quintin: xorg.conf http://pastebin.ca/371283   |   Xorg.0.log  http://pastebin.ca/371285
[07:17] <acid_phyre> vmware is cool
[07:17] <Quintin> fletch007: /var/log/ is where they are at...
[07:17] <hwdyki> how do i update my whole system?
[07:17] <kalorin> eh/
[07:17] <Quintin> I only accept pastes on my website! :P
[07:17] <brophat> is upgrading really safe and easy?
[07:18] <Quintin> brophat: yes, very.
[07:18] <kalorin> someone had a nice link for vmware stuff up there a minutes ago
[07:18] <sprocket> hello
[07:18] <kalorin> what happened to it?
[07:18] <acid_phyre> hwdyki: to which system?
[07:18] <brophat> I know with slackware ugrading is always a problem
[07:19] <fletch007> ok, I will work on that.
[07:19] <hwdyki> acid_phyre: edgy
[07:19] <jmazaredo> is it ok to remove other linux-restricted-modules and leave only the restricted modules for my architecture?
[07:19] <Quintin> tehxed: paste your lsmod
[07:19] <acid_phyre> google how to upgrade 6.06 to 6.10
[07:19] <hwdyki> acid_phyre: security updates i mean.
[07:19] <acid_phyre> it will tell u
[07:19] <acid_phyre> ohh
[07:19] <acid_phyre> it should pop up automatically
[07:19] <hwdyki> i am already on edgy.
[07:19] <omeil> how long has this version 6.10 been out?
[07:19] <acid_phyre> im about to be on edgy
[07:19] <hwdyki> what would pop up?
[07:19] <brophat> acid_phyre I thought ubuntu makes it easy to upgrade
[07:19] <n3rrd> not necessarily a ubuntu question, but is there an easy to tell if a parallel port is dead?
[07:19] <acid_phyre> it does
[07:19] <Quintin> acid_phyre: change all 'dapper' to 'edgy' in /etc/apt/sources.list , aptitude update ; aptitude upgrade ; aptitude dist-upgrade aptitude dist-upgrade
[07:20] <Pelo> omeil,   the number tells you,  2006 10th month
[07:20] <kalorin> !vm war
[07:20] <ubotu> vm: A mail user agent for Emacs.. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.19-9 (edgy), package size 563 kB, installed size 2652 kB
[07:20] <kalorin> hrms..
[07:20] <tehxed> Quintin: http://pastebin.ca/371289  That's lsmod
[07:20] <kalorin> !vmware-player
[07:20] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.2-2 (edgy), package size 11602 kB, installed size 31336 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[07:20] <brophat> acid_phyre having to google how to do it does not imply that it is easy hahahah
[07:20] <kalorin> !vmware how-to
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmware how-to - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:20] <kalorin> hrms..
[07:20] <omeil> oh ok
[07:21] <omeil> does anyone know how to configure the audio in wine properly. when i select OSS and go full on emulation. the sound has a 0.3 second delay which is annoying :D
[07:21] <Pelo> omeil,  try asking in #winehq
[07:22] <hwdyki> no way to do a world update?
[07:22] <kalorin> oh I love you firefox and your restore session
[07:22] <acid_phyre> it is easy
[07:22] <DARKGuy> Hey, anybody knows how to change the global font size in X? they're too big for my taste in 1280x1024 :( (not in Gnome, just global X)
[07:22] <Thanatos> what's the best package for burning an .iso to a cd?
[07:22] <brophat> acid_phyre the website says: Updates, from simple security fixes to a complete version upgrade, are now possible with a few clicks of the update utility.
[07:22] <Pelo> DARKGuy,  menu > system > prets > fonts
[07:23] <Pelo> Thanatos, gnomebaker is nice
[07:23] <DARKGuy> Pelo: I'm not using Gnome, but Fluxbox - and either way, I'd like to know how to change the -global- font size in *X* :P
[07:23] <Thanatos> thankyou pelo
[07:23] <rob5> if i have a shell script using /bin/sh and am doing a 'case' statement, what's the correct syntax if I want to see if the first few arguments are 'scp -P XXXX...'.  i tried: 'scp -P 3434*)' but it came back: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")").  but 'scp*)' works fine.
[07:23] <tehxed> Quintin: any luick?
[07:23] <DARKGuy> Pelo: but thanks for answering anyways o.o
[07:23] <tehxed> luck*
[07:24] <DARKGuy> like, something like... y'know X loads some fonts in xorg.conf, can you set the font size through there?
[07:24] <Pelo> DARKGuy, just have a look
[07:24] <DARKGuy> like to zoom them out or scale them some %, like, proportional
[07:24] <whta> how long does it usually take for synaptic to update with the latest version of wine?
[07:24] <kalorin> rob5, I don't understand the question, but I'm pretty handy with bash
[07:25] <DARKGuy> Pelo: where? :/
[07:25] <Quintin> Thanatos: k3b
[07:25] <Quintin> rob5: /join #bash
[07:25] <Pelo> whta,  just get the repo from www.winehq.org and put it in synatpic, it wlll update when a package becomes available
[07:25] <Quintin> tehxed: what card
[07:26] <tehxed> Quintin: ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
[07:26] <Pelo> DARKGuy,  sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ,   I am not promissing anything but the first part looks promissing
[07:26] <Quintin> tehxed: laptop?
[07:26] <networkr00> hi
[07:26] <Quintin> !hi | networkr00
[07:26] <networkr00> I need help with setting up xchat
[07:26] <ubotu> networkr00: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:26] <tehxed> Quintin: Yes. Gateway MX7118 I think..      01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE)
[07:27] <DARKGuy> Pelo: Oh, yeah, but I thought it was some parameter line I had to add and problem solved xD... guess not :/ *googles*
[07:27] <cables> networkr00, ask away
[07:27] <Quintin> networkr00: sudo apt-get install xchat.  /join #xchat
[07:27] <Stevethepirate> hello friends i have a question about startup and it is when i start up ubuntu it does the loading scrren wit the bar and then it goes into text base login and then its all text
[07:27] <networkr00> I am in now
[07:27] <Quintin> tehxed: screwy.
[07:27] <Hasrat_USA> is there any Konversation user around here? i want to connect to a new server without having to disconnect freenode. how to do that?
[07:27] <brophat> what linux kernel does the current release use?
[07:27] <cables> networkr00, if it's not ubuntu-specific, join the channel #xchat for help.
[07:27] <Quintin> tehxed: looking, give me a few
[07:27] <networkr00> but I tried to go to the #automatix and it doesn't like my nickname, says I'm not registered
[07:27] <Quintin> Hasrat_USA: /join #kubuntu /join #kde
[07:28] <cables> networkr00, first of all, don't use automatix. Second of all, hold on a sec
[07:28] <cables> !register | networkr00
[07:28] <ubotu> networkr00: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:28] <Quintin> networkr00: automatix is crap, don't use it and save us all headaches.
[07:28] <Hasrat_USA> Quintin: oh okay thanks
[07:28] <networkr00> why is it crap?
[07:28] <Quintin> Hasrat_USA: np
[07:28] <cables> networkr00, it can majorly break stuff
[07:28] <Shrimpy> hey
[07:28] <Pelo> fyi automatix has been borked for a few days,  they may have given up
[07:28] <networkr00> I've had incredibly solid results with it
[07:28] <cables> networkr00, if there's something Automatix does that you want to do, ask here for how to do it without automatix
[07:28] <Shrimpy> when i load up ubuntu it enters a text based system the gui is gone. what do i do to get it back?
[07:28] <networkr00> just got to leave it alone while it's doing it's thing
[07:28] <fletch007> Quintin-- I was able to post my xorg log to your link., but I cant find any conf file in the var/log
[07:29] <unop> automatix has been borked for a few years (not just a few days) :)
[07:29] <Madpilot> networkr00, lucky you, it has a bad habit of eating installs
[07:29] <cables> networkr00, Automatix works fine... until you try to upgrade to the latest ubuntu release.
[07:29] <Quintin> fletch007: the conf file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:29] <Madpilot> unop, s/a few years/since it came out
[07:29] <unop> !automatix
[07:29] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:29] <networkr00> thanks guys/gals
[07:29] <unop> Madpilot,  it's only a few years old (so we mean the same thing) :)
[07:29] <DARKGuy> brb
[07:29] <cables> According to the automatix channel, it's going to be back up soon. Dammit!
[07:29] <Madpilot> unop, heh
[07:30] <networkr00> !register | networkr00
[07:30] <Hasrat_USA> what's the point in using automatix or any software other than the default app add/remove in ubuntu is something i don't understand
[07:30] <FactTech> Question: Is there a better forum than this one for hardware questions? Specifically, about motherboard/BIOS/memory questions.
[07:30] <Quintin> tehxed: X does start, yes?  You just don't have hardware 3d?
[07:30] <Quintin> FactTech: /j #hardware
[07:30] <yellow> FactTech, #hardware
[07:30] <Thanatos> k3b looks like it is more ideal for burning an iso
[07:30] <FactTech> Quintin yellow Thanks!
[07:31] <tehxed> Quintin: I don't know what you mean by X doesn't start?
[07:31] <tehxed> Quintin: I'm on Ubuntu right now.
[07:31] <fletch007> Quintin- ok then I posted the conf file as well.
[07:31] <Pelo> g'night folks
[07:31] <Quintin> tehxed: You have a graphical desktop, right?  with the laptop?
[07:31] <Quintin> fletch007: link
[07:31] <tehxed> Yes.
[07:31] <tehxed> Would you like a screenshot?
[07:31] <ttheikkila> both easyubuntu and automatix won work
[07:32] <Quintin> tehxed: no.  Do you need hardware 3d support for something?
[07:32] <tehxed> Quintin: Would you like a screenshot?
[07:32] <tehxed> Quintin: Yes. Beryl.
[07:32] <Madpilot> Thanatos, if you're in Gnome, burning an ISO is dead easy: just right-click on the ISO file, select Burn To Disc. Done.
[07:32] <cables> ttheikkila, what?
[07:32] <Hasrat_USA> ttheikkila: they don't work? consider yourself lucky. seriously!
[07:32] <ttheikkila> i mean they will not work
[07:33] <Shrimpy> does any know much about the load up of ubuntu?
[07:33] <ttheikkila> I had some severe mess with easyubuntu
[07:33] <cables> ttheikkila, that's a good thing. Automatix has been known to break installs badly, especially when the time comes to upgrade to the latest Ubuntu version.
[07:33] <fletch007> http://pastebin.ca/371296
[07:33] <Shrimpy> because its not loading the gui it only loads a text based system
[07:33] <cables> ttheikkila, if you've already used it, that's a bad thing.
[07:33] <Ironman273> Anyone know why I'm getting this error: "failed to initialize HAL!"?
[07:34] <tehxed> Quintin:  So.. what do you suggest?
[07:34] <fletch007> Quintin - here is the other one http://pastebin.ca/371291
[07:34] <unop> Shrimpy,  can you log in there at all?
[07:34] <Quintin> tehxed: I'm working on it.  it's 1:30 am, patience.
[07:34] <tehxed> Quintin: Alright.
[07:34] <geeksauce> is there any reason why archive manager isn't able to read rar files?
[07:34] <tehxed> Quintin:  THanks.
[07:34] <Shrimpy> thanks unop yes it ask user name and then i type in my crap and thtn it acts like a terminal
[07:34] <Quintin> geeksauce: not supported.  get 'unrar' or 'unrar-nonfree'
[07:35] <Quintin> tehxed: modprobe agpart
[07:35] <unop> Shrimpy,  no swearing please, thanks :)  what happens when you type this command in?  sudo gdm
[07:35] <geeksauce> Quintin, interesting. is rar a licensed format or something?
[07:35] <tehxed> Quintin: FATAL: Module agpart not found.
[07:36] <Quintin> geeksauce: winrar is proprietary software.  there are 2 pkgs for it.  1 does some stuff, and is open source, the other does everything, and is not open source.  I just use the latter one
[07:36] <unop> geeksauce,  it's restricted as the license is not GPL compatible
[07:36] <Shrimpy> sorry about that unop also when i type in sudo gdm i get command not found
[07:36] <Thanatos> Wow. I didn't know that burning an iso is so easy in GNOME. I'm such a noob
[07:36] <synetos07> I am in mIRC for windows (excuse me) - how can I stop the "joined" and "quit" notices from showing ?
[07:37] <unop> synetos07,  /j ##windows
[07:37] <unop> Shrimpy,  hmm .. thats odd -- how about this one? which sudo
[07:37] <Quintin> tehxed: I'm sorry.  modprobe agpgart
[07:38] <Shrimpy> unop: i get /usr/bin/sudo
[07:38] <tehxed> Quintin: FATAL: Module agpgart not found.
[07:38] <synetos07> unop - thanks
[07:38] <comand> Hi -- how can I find out what package owns a particular file using the command line?   What is the appropriate apt tool...
[07:38] <Quintin> tehxed: you're root, yea?
[07:38] <unop> Shrimpy,  are you on kubuntu?
[07:38] <Shrimpy> no ubuntu
[07:38] <tehxed> want me to sudo modprobe agpgart ?
[07:38] <Shrimpy> 6.10
[07:38] <Quintin> tehxed: yes
[07:38] <unop> comand,  dpkg -S /path/to/file
[07:39] <tehxed> Quintin: Same thing.
[07:39] <comand> dpkg .. thanks
[07:39] <unop> Shrimpy,  hmm, what about this? which gdm?
[07:39] <unop> Shrimpy,  err.  which gdm
[07:39] <Quintin> tehxed: ..
[07:40] <Quintin> tehxed: that's screwed up
[07:40] <Quintin> tehxed: uname -a
[07:40] <Shrimpy> unop: when i type that it nothing happens. it goest to a new line
[07:40] <tehxed> Quintin: Linux umobile 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 18:03:05 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:40] <omeil_> does crossover linux boot .exe games aswell?
[07:40] <omeil_> or is it only software?
[07:41] <unop> Shrimpy,  hmm, gdm doesnt seem to be installed?  does this return anything?  dpkg -l | grep -i gdm
[07:41] <Quintin> tehxed: ls -l /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.ko
[07:41] <omeil_> Has anyone succesfully made ubuntu access NTFS drives as READ/WRITE?
[07:41] <kalorin> it's interesting that ubuntu uses .deb packages primarily
[07:41] <kalorin> yeah i'm doing it
[07:41] <kalorin> works fine
[07:41] <kalorin> though the security is broken :)
[07:42] <omeil_> NTFS works fine?
[07:42] <kalorin> sure
[07:42] <lovloss> there's like 50 different kinds of opengl libraries. i want to mess with open gl and i dont have the #includes... soooo, which one of these should i get? anyone know?
[07:42] <Quintin> omeil_: reading ntfs is fine
[07:42] <unop> omeil_,  traditionally it only supported office, then a few other applications, lately i've heard it supports games .. but gamers tend to prefer !cedega and !qemu better
[07:42] <kalorin> I've got a drive that was xp in an external case that's USB plugged in
[07:42] <kalorin> works great
[07:42] <tehxed> Quintin: ls: /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.ko: No such file or directory
[07:42] <Shrimpy> unop: i get some feed back it says    ii degy-gdm-thems and then  Edy  GDM themes   and thats all on 0.7-0ubuntu2
[07:42] <unop> !ntfs-3g | omeil_ , see PM from ubotu
[07:42] <ubotu> omeil_ , see PM from ubotu: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:42] <Quintin> tehxed: ls -l /lib/modules/
[07:42] <kalorin> cedega
[07:42] <kalorin> ?
[07:42] <Quintin> tehxed: do you have 2.6.17-11-generic in there?
[07:43] <omeil_> i can't seem to get ntfs-3d working
[07:43] <Quintin> unop: that wasn't a PM. ..
[07:43] <Shrimpy> unop and then ii human-gtk-theme and Edgy GDM thems    and thats on 0.20ubuntu 1 unop
[07:43] <gOLdenHaWK3D> hi all
[07:43] <madprobe> gOLdenHaWK3D, hey man, kernel had support for VIA chipset USB, itw work with a bit of tweaking
[07:43] <madprobe> gOLdenHaWK3D, hey man, kernel had support for VIA chipset USB, it worked* with a bit of tweaking
[07:43] <tehxed> Quintin: total 8
[07:43] <tehxed> drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 2007-02-24 07:24 2.6.17-10-generic
[07:43] <tehxed> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 2007-02-24 05:45 2.6.17-11-generic
[07:43] <unop> Shrimpy,  ok .. run this command then.  sudo sh -c "aptitude install gdm; gdm"
[07:43] <omeil_> im gonna test vietcong with cedega not sure it works
[07:44] <Quintin> tehxed: aptitude reinstall linux-`uname -r`  I have *no* idea why you don't have that module.  something is very wrong I think.
[07:44] <unop> Quintin,  was meant to use a > there ...
[07:44] <unop> omeil_,  why doesnt ntfs-3g work?
[07:44] <geeksauce> Quintin, are those command-line utils, and if so, is there a frontend app for them?
[07:44] <Shrimpy> unop: it loaded!!!!!!!!!!   THANK YOU!!!
[07:44] <omeil_> unop: didn't work for me. unless im doing something wrong which im pretty sure i am lol
[07:45] <unop> Shrimpy,  you should be ok now
[07:45] <Softly> Hello
[07:45] <Quintin> geeksauce: hm?
[07:45] <Shrimpy> unop: mmm its not loading anything. its just a blank tan background
[07:45] <tehxed> Quintin: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "linux-2.6.17-11-generic"
[07:45] <unop> omeil_,  well, let's say you are a car mechanic and i come to you saying "i got in the car this morning and it wouldnt move" .. would i be making sense to you? :)
[07:46] <Quintin> tehxed: linux-kernel-`uname -r`
[07:46] <omeil_> unop: well kinda :D except it could be many things :D
[07:46] <unop> Shrimpy,  press CTRL+ALT+F1 .. at the terminal, issue this command.  sudo reboot
[07:46] <joebob777as7> anyone know where to get the deb of gimpshop for kubuntu???
[07:46] <omeil_> unop:well really i just followed what it said and nothing happend :(
[07:46] <Quintin> geeksauce: oh.  yes they are.  whatever file archiver you have will work with the command line ones seamlessly though.
[07:46] <omeil_> unop: i couldn't mount with the ntfs-3g command
[07:46] <Shrimpy> unop, thanks
[07:47] <unop> omeil_,  exactly .. i'm not being descriptive enough of what i've tried, what i've experienced, "error messages" i saw, etc .. now if i gave you them, you' have a better idea of where to begin troubleshooting :)
[07:47] <omeil_> unop: could it be that fuse isn't installed properly?
[07:47] <tehxed> Quintin: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "linux-kernel-2.6.17-11-generic"
[07:47] <House> um im kinda new to this so i need some help
[07:47] <omeil_> unop: have you succesfully read/write ur ntfs?
[07:47] <House> i have a laptop
[07:47] <unop> omeil_,  well, try mounting your device again and let me know what errors you see
[07:47] <House> well i have ubuntu installed if thats what you mean
[07:47] <geeksauce> Quintin, archive manager will work?
[07:48] <unop> omeil_,  aye yes, i've been running it quite well for the last year and a bit
[07:48] <Quintin> tehxed: sorry, I'm off it seems.  aptitude reinstall linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic
[07:48] <geeksauce> Quintin, with those packages installed i mean
[07:48] <Quintin> geeksauce: yes.
[07:48] <House> anyone interested in helping me
[07:48] <omeil_> unop whats the ntfs-3g mounting command?
[07:48] <joebob777as7> hey can someone help me with gimphsop for kububuntu
[07:48] <Softly> confidential
[07:49] <Shrimpy> unop, still there is only a tan background, any clues
[07:49] <jeffwheeler> I'm trying to make my thumb drive a bootable Ubuntu install, by following these instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent.
[07:49] <House> please!
[07:49] <Quintin> tehxed: oh yea.  paste your xorg.conf one more time.  http://daecom.biz/
[07:49] <unop> omeil_,  here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/
[07:49] <jeffwheeler> But, I can't seem to read casper/vmlinuz or a couple of other files in the same dir.
[07:49] <burepe> joebob777as7: is it in the repositories?
[07:49] <jeffwheeler> (from the mounted iso or mounted cd, both)
[07:49] <Quintin> tehxed: mainly option composite disable .. at the bottom.  do that
[07:50] <Solidad> i must have accidentally changed the permissions of the home folder..i can't do anything.i tried to bring up a terminal, and it said permission denied..tried CTRL+ALT+F1..that didn't work so i restarted ..it goes to the login page i can't login
[07:50] <unop> Shrimpy,  ok, press CTRL+ALT+F1 to get back to the terminal and run this command. sudo sh -c "killall gdm; gdm"
[07:51] <unop> Shrimpy,  once the tan screen appears, get back to the console and examine it for any errors/info that might have been spit out there
[07:51] <tehxed> Quintin: Can you repeat what you said about option composite disable?
[07:51] <cables> I was trying out the sysrq commands today, and none of them actually worked... however, just pressing sysrq causes my cpu usage to go to 100 % and my memory to slowly fill up. What's with that?
[07:51] <tehxed> Quintin: I don't quite understand
[07:51] <Quintin> tehxed: at bottom of your xorg.conf, look at it.
[07:52] <Shrimpy> unop: when i type the command line in it says GDM already running, aborting!
[07:52] <tehxed> Yea, it's Composite 0
[07:52] <tehxed> Should I change the 0 to "disabled" instead of "0
[07:52] <tehxed> "?
[07:52] <Quintin> tehxed: give me link again
[07:53] <Quintin> tehxed: and have you reinstalled your kernel image?
[07:53] <unop> Shrimpy,  this then.  sudo sh -c "killall -9 gdm; gdm"
[07:53] <Shrimpy> unop: i tried it again and i'm at the lon in screen
[07:53] <Shrimpy> should i try and log in?
[07:54] <unop> Shrimpy,  lon?
[07:54] <unop> ohh log* ha
[07:54] <unop> yea, yea, log in :)
[07:54] <fletch007> Quintin, I can see that you are very busy--- I was reading throug the xorg.conf file and it says BusID "PCI:1:0:0" . now I know that my video card is an AGP card, could that be causing my troubles?
[07:54] <tehxed> Quintin: http://pastebin.ca/371320
[07:54] <tehxed> Quintin: That's my xorg.conf
[07:55] <House> how do i use wi-fi on my laptop
[07:55] <Shrimpy> unop: still that tan backgrond,
[07:55] <House> with ubuntu
[07:55] <jeffwheeler> Is there anything special about casper/filesystem.squashfs, casper/initrd.gz, and capser/vmlinuz that would prevent them from being read, which prevents me from copying them to my thumb drive
[07:55] <Quintin> tehxed: ok, that's fine, I think.  get your kernel reinstalled.. you need agpgart
[07:55] <unop> Shrimpy,  so this is after you log in?
[07:55] <cables> !wifi | House
[07:55] <ubotu> House: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:55] <House> thank you!
[07:55] <tehxed> Quintin: How do I go about getting agpgart?
[07:56] <Quintin> tehxed: .. reinstall kernel.  3rd time.
[07:56] <Shrimpy> unop: correct
[07:56] <Quintin> fletch007: it should be PCI .. even for agp
[07:56] <tehxed> the same...thing?
[07:56] <tehxed> Quintin: the same thing?
[07:56] <unop> Shrimpy,  you see nothing but a background? not even a splash screen or any sign of activity?
[07:56] <fletch007> Quintin: thanks, I will keep looking
[07:56] <Quintin> tehxed: I told you package to get... look up a bit
[07:56] <joebob777as7> i need gimpshop for kubuntu
[07:56] <Quintin> fletch007: do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and follow the prompts.
[07:56] <Quintin> fletch007: what kind of monitor do you have?
[07:57] <tehxed> Quintin: sudo  aptitude reinstall linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic    That?
[07:57] <Shrimpy> unop: the only thing i see is my mouse and it does respond to movement
[07:57] <burepe> joebob777as7: did you see the question I asked you?
[07:57] <fletch007> Quintin. the monitor is a P225f - ViewSonic
[07:57] <Quintin> tehxed: yep!
[07:57] <tehxed> Quintin: I've already done that. Do you need me to do it again?
[07:57] <burepe> joebob777as7: you didn't reply. Type my name if you want me to see what you say. This channel moves fast
[07:57] <omeil> !ntfs-3g
[07:58] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:58] <Quintin> tehxed: no... do 'locate agpgart'
[07:58] <Shrimpy> unop: is this not looking good?
[07:58] <mhhz> are there any long time debian users here that switched to ubuntu... and if so - why?  don't mean to start a flame war here... just genuinely curious
[07:59] <Quintin> fletch007: your xorg.conf is ... funny.  Do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in text mode and follow the prompts
[07:59] <tehxed> Quintin: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10/include/linux/agpgart.h     /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.17-10-generic/include/linux/agpgart.h
[07:59] <Solidad> it denied me permission the last time i was at the home screen of the desktop for the terminal window I select failsafe session and i get the same set of erros..i am in the failsafe session looks like im in the /root
[07:59] <House> how do i know whether or not ubuntu recognizes a device
[07:59] <unop> Shrimpy,  hmm, i'm contemplating next move .. maybe it'd help to let me know what you were last doing before you lost X
[07:59] <exs> Can someone help me?.. I'm trying to free space, but it appears that everything I delete, stays in the trash as hidden (non-accessable) files! I have 21gb in the trash as 'disk usage analyzer' tells me.
[07:59] <Synetosoft> Will GRUB work nicely with Windows XP - Pro - I wanna put Ubuntu on my 2nd drive partition  -  ?
[07:59] <Quintin> mhhz: yes. me.  cause it's easier more well organized desktop.  it's really not a whole lot diff from debian, just less work.
[07:59] <fletch007> Quintin, I will give it a shot thanks
[07:59] <Quintin> tehxed: that's it?  Should be about 12 lines
[07:59] <joebob777as7> burepe where would i look to tell? sorry red wasn't showing up properly lol
[07:59] <mhhz> House: try 'dmesg' to see if it shows up during boot
[07:59] <omeil> unop: i can't download ntfs-config
[08:00] <tehxed> Quintin: No, that's it.
[08:00] <mhhz> Synetosoft: yes
[08:00] <unop> omeil,  I can't get my car to move
[08:00] <House> can someone please tell me how to tell whether or not ubuntu recognizes a device
[08:00] <Quintin> tehxed: you have plenty of free disk, right?
[08:00] <tehxed> Quintin: Quite a bit.
[08:00] <Quintin> House: what kind?
[08:00] <Synetosoft> mhhz - Excellent - I really appreciate that.  I foolishly put in a 2nd hard drive last week (an old one that only was 2GB in size)
[08:00] <tehxed> Quintin: ... well.. depends on what you mean by "plenty" .. I have about 60 to 70GB free atm
[08:00] <Quintin> tehxed: that's more than enough...
[08:00] <mhhz> House: does dmesg indicate that it was recognized?  also - you could see if the module is loaded with 'lsmod'
[08:00] <House> um well, my sound and wifi dont work
[08:01] <Shrimpy> unop: i was trying to reconfigure my sound card. i was building packages from alsa and then i want to start over so i opened my home folder and it said something about error nautilus could not open. so i closed everything and shut it down. got a slice of pizza and then turned the computer on
[08:01] <Synetosoft> mhhz - and did not know that Ubuntu needs a minimum of 2 Gig to operate.  I let it install anyway - and grub just froze on boot - but probably because it did not have any workspace - right ?
[08:01] <joebob777as7> house if you shove a usb cord in upside down your mobo will let you know it recognized a device... lol please don't try it
[08:01] <quaal> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOlrKH3SmtI you guys seen ?
[08:01] <House> and i dont think my graphiccs card either
[08:01] <Quintin> tehxed: well, you've got me stumped.   Done
[08:01] <omeil> Building dependency tree
[08:01] <omeil> Reading state information... Done
[08:01] <omeil> E: Couldn't find package ntfs-config
[08:01] <crazy_penguin> Good morning all! (P.S. It's morning here :))
[08:01] <joebob777as7> burepe: where would i look to tell? sorry red wasn't showing up properly lol
[08:01] <burepe> joebob777as7: you are new to ubuntu? All packages (programs) come from repositories where programs are collected. If you set them up you can get nearly every program from them.
[08:01] <Synetosoft> mhhz - I now have created a 25 Gig partition on my C  and wanna try it again.  Thanks - will give it a shot.
[08:01] <tehxed> Quintin: I don't know what any of that means... but I have Ubuntu Edge Eft 6.10 (AMD 64 DVD ISO installation)... =\
[08:02] <burepe> joebob777as7: follow the directions on the next url I post
[08:02] <mhhz> Synetosoft: I've had grub work fine with Windows XP, Windows2000
[08:02] <unop> Shrimpy,  ok, back to the terminal then and run this command.  sudo killall -9 gdm; startx
[08:02] <burepe> !source-o-matic
[08:02] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:02] <omeil> unop: did u read what i posted?
[08:02] <Quintin> tehxed: ohhhhh
[08:02] <unop> omeil,  did you add in the repositories as mentioned on that page?
[08:02] <Quintin> tehxed: *now* you tell me.
[08:02] <joebob777as7> burepe: i'm new i've been using suse for a  little while with smart...
[08:02] <james296> well?
[08:02] <omeil> i did but i probably did them wrong. do i add them at the start or at the bottom?
[08:02] <Quintin> tehxed: you take your 64 bits and you can shove 'em ...
[08:02] <tehxed> Quintin:  I'm sorry =(
[08:03] <Shrimpy> unop: error   (i'm typeing the error now)
[08:03] <Quintin> tehxed: you should probably use x86 install... less painful
[08:03] <james296> whats wrong with doc.gwos.org?
[08:03] <tehxed> Quintin:  I .. didn't know it was a bad thing =(
[08:03] <mhhz> House: well... if X is running - your card must be recognized!!
[08:03] <Quintin> tehxed: well, it can be for desktops
[08:03] <unop> omeil,  you can do without ntfs-config (it's only a GUI helper tool)
[08:03] <burepe> !source-o-matic | joebob777as7
[08:03] <ubotu> joebob777as7: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:03] <tehxed> Quintin: OH maan.. I must have formatted and re-installed .. well over 6 or 7 times..
[08:03] <House> o ok
[08:03] <omeil> unop: oh
[08:03] <House> well how do i get sound
[08:03] <techie1> Can anybody comment? Maybe this will make sense to some of you. I defragmented my windows xp ready for Ubuntu installation. I want to do a dual boot. Download systemrescue. Even though windows xp is in NTFS when using systemcd on Gparted, it reads or gives me a FAT 32. Does this make sense to anyone?
[08:04] <unop> omeil,  skip that step and run that step of getting your disk mounted via the /etc/fstab file
[08:04] <joebob777as7> burepe do I want source repositories?
[08:04] <Shrimpy> unop: xauth :creating new authority file /home/tony/.serverauth.4668         Fatal server error: server is already active for displa 0.   if this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again
[08:04] <mhhz> techie1: no... should show as ntfs
[08:04] <unop> Shrimpy,  are you sure this didnt return anything at the terminal.  sudo killall -9 gdm
[08:04] <tehxed> Quintin: I have a laptop though... so what...do you suggest? Just format?
exactly so what is with that?
[08:05] <david_> is  there a way to install linux in a fashion so that i can install say, ubuntu 6.06 and then 6.10 but not have to reinstall all the programs all over again?
[08:05] <joebob777as7> burepe what are source repositories?
[08:05] <omeil> unop: can't mount manually to see if ti works?
[08:05] <Quintin> tehxed: I would get the 386 disc and format and install with it...
[08:05] <omeil> unop:can't i mount manually?
[08:05] <burepe> joebob777as7: you are new to ubuntu? All packages (programs) come from repositories where programs are collected. If you set them up you can get nearly every program from them.
[08:05] <Quintin> david_: no.
[08:05] <techie1> should I be using something different than systemcd to repartition my drive?
[08:05] <mhhz> techie1: did you say ur XP partition is showing up as fat32?  that's wierd
[08:05] <Shrimpy> unop: whti sudo killall -9 gdm i get gdm no process killed
[08:05] <unop> omeil,  you could do that too .. i'm trying to hit two birds with one stone :)
[08:05] <techie1> yes
[08:05] <mhhz> techie1:I'm pretty sure XP needs ntfs
[08:05] <Quintin> mhhz: xp can be installed to fat32
[08:05] <Quintin> mhhz: you're wrong
[08:05] <unop> Shrimpy,  how about this.  sudo killall -9 X
[08:05] <omeil> unop: i did that once :D na not really
[08:06] <joebob777as7> burepe: i understand that but on that page there is a box that says: Tick this box to include source repositories (If unsure, then you don't want this.)
[08:06] <Shrimpy> x: no proces killed     unop
[08:06] <tehxed> Quintin: And then follow that setup again? http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Install_the_8.34.8_Driver_Manually   Again?
me too because when going to control, etc... it shows through diskmanagment as NTFS
[08:06] <mhhz> okay... well.. techie1 - how do you know ur XP is ntfs and not fat32
[08:06] <mhhz> oh
[08:06] <burepe> joebob777as7: in windows you download programs. In ubutu most programs are opensource so they are collected in servers (repositories) all over the world. We get nearly all our programs with that
[08:06] <techie1> through the control panel.
[08:06] <gmz_> which ver of Ubuntu do you guys recommend 6.10 or 6.06?
[08:06] <unop> Shrimpy,  ok, run this command then.  sudo rm -rf /tmp/.X*
[08:06] <techie1> shows at ntfs
[08:06] <gmz_> ?
[08:07] <unop> Shrimpy,  and then.  startx
[08:07] <gmz_> which ver of Ubuntu do you guys recommend 6.10 or 6.06?
[08:07] <burepe> joebob777as7: you are unsure right? then you don't want it like it says
[08:07] <mhhz> Well... what do you care what gparted says... afterall you are installing ubuntu on the other partition anyway
[08:07] <Shrimpy> unop: no return
[08:07] <Quintin> tehxed: I looked at it briefly, it looks fine.  mainly, just have build-essential, kernel-headers, and get the driver from ati.amd.com
[08:07] <Shrimpy> ok i just hit start x
[08:07] <unop> Shrimpy,  yea rm does not usually return anything if it succeeds, thats normal  .. try startx now
[08:07] <Quintin> techie1: fdisk -l
[08:07] <tehxed> Quintin: Oh maaaan..  :D
[08:09] <timoheikkila> 6.06 is a good choice because it has longer support from ubuntu
explain.. I am listening
[08:10] <omeil> unop: can i talk to u in pm i wanna post some text
[08:10] <chorse> techie1: just burn it like a dvd image
[08:10] <Quintin> chorse: pretty sure you can't.
[08:10] <james296> ok are my messages not going through or something....
[08:10] <unop> Shrimpy,  doesnt look good. this shoulda brought up your desktop
[08:10] <eric_> hello
[08:10] <techie1> I do not think you can
[08:10] <comradec> I'm having problems with my laptop monitor turning off the back light, when I set it to power off with xscreensaver, it powers off for like 10 secs after the time and then the backlight turns back on with a blankscreen, any ideas?
[08:10] <joebob777as7> burepe still not found... is it easy to compile from source? how do I make sure I have all the right programs to compile? in suse when I use smart it automatically installs all dependent packages to compile...
[08:10] <chorse> Quintin: sure you can. they are all just iso images and differ only in size.
[08:10] <james296> OMGOMGOMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:10] <unop> omeil,  we use the room because people can help, we contribute to the log, etc etc
if so, delineate the steps in here?
[08:11] <cables> !attitude | james296
[08:11] <ubotu> james296: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
or explain further. thanks.
[08:11] <cyphase> how do you suspend a process that isn't the active process in a terminal
[08:11] <james296> I feel like Im being ignored
[08:11] <cyphase> not Ctrl+Z, but..
[08:11] <james296> I have waited patiently
[08:11] <Shrimpy> unop: ok i just need one file from the desktop to a flash drive how do i transfer it with ther terminal
[08:11] <cables> james296, what's your question again?
[08:11] <chorse> techie1: are you burning with nautilus oder gnomebaker?
[08:11] <james296> and got no response
[08:11] <unop> Shrimpy,  do you know where your flash drive is mounted?
[08:12] <mhhz> james296: what's ur question?
[08:12] <unop> james296,  ask a question
[08:12] <cables> james296, if no one knows the answer, no one will respond. Sorry, but there's nothing more to it.
[08:12] <eric_> question about partitions: i went back into windows and was going to use partition magic to make my windows partition smaller, and when it started it asked me if it should fix my partition table.  the result of that is that all the partitions are seen as one
[08:12] <burepe> joebob777as7: how is that program different from gimp? what do you mean not found? what are you looking in? I am just asking because you didn' know what a repository was and I want to make sure you are looking in the right place
[08:12] <eric_> anyone know how to fix that?
[08:12] <omeil> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[08:12] <omeil> #
[08:12] <omeil> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[08:12] <omeil> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[08:12] <omeil> # /dev/sda1
[08:12] <omeil> UUID=d6186b5e-c8af-419a-9cf1-94f64546f67e /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[08:12] <omeil> # /dev/sda5
[08:12] <omeil> UUID=8E7EC19E7EC17F87 /dev/sda5     /media/main     ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0
[08:12] <james296> I have asked what is going on with the doc.gwos.org site, its ticking me off that Im unable to access it as I need it to properly install the most recent version of the Nvidia graphics
[08:12] <omeil> /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[08:12] <cables> !paste | omeil
[08:12] <ubotu> omeil: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:12] <unop> !paste | omeil
[08:12] <omeil> lol
[08:12] <unop> omeil,  that was a silly thing to do :|
[08:12] <burepe> joebob777as7: did you add the out put of source-o-matic to your sources.list file?
[08:12] <House> does anyone know where to get a driver for the bc94311mcg
[08:13] <mhhz> eric_: sounds like you reformated your partitions
[08:13] <omeil> unop: thats why i wanted to talk in pm :) didn't know about past
[08:13] <House> *bcm94311mcg
[08:13] <omeil> paste
[08:13] <mhhz> eric_: did your write the changes to the partition table?
[08:13] <joebob777as7> burepe i type sudo apt-get update after adding sources.list file then i type sudo apt-get install gimpshop
neither I am using infrarecorder to burn
[08:13] <Quintin> tehxed: going to bed, if you can't get it working wtih x86 I'll be here tomorrow
[08:13] <unop> omeil,  anyway, now you know (use a pastebin) .. whats the matter now?
[08:13] <tehxed> Quintin:  Thank you. Good night.
[08:13] <james296> did you read what I just said?
[08:13] <joebob777as7> burepe: gimpshop is for us windows photoshop people it makes all options very similar
[08:13] <chorse> techie1: i don't know this tool. does it have an option "burn dvd image"?
[08:14] <techie1> sure
[08:14] <megafauna> Hi, VLC crashes when I try to play my Futurama DVD, any suggestions?
[08:14] <omeil> unop: just checking if that looks correct
[08:14] <cables> joebob777as7, there's a gimpshop repository? I don't see one...
[08:14] <techie1> that's how I have burned the iso for ubuntu and others.
[08:14] <thianpa> !mpeg
[08:14] <omeil> unop: i changed the line for the ntfs-3g one
[08:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:14] <burepe> joebob777as7:  it might have a differnt package name. use synaptic and search for it
[08:14] <unop> omeil,  i would remove  UUID=8E7EC19E7EC17F87 from the ntfs-3g line
[08:14] <unop> omeil,  this should be enough.  /dev/sda5     /media/main     ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0
[08:14] <chorse> techie1: burn the ubuntu iso image with this option on a dvd
[08:14] <albacker> guys i installed gaim from source with checkinstall so basiclly it created a .deb file, and installed with dpkg. but now dpkg -r doesn't find gaim, and remove it.. i think it's under some other name.. can someoen help me ?
[08:15] <omeil> oh ok
[08:15] <unop> omeil,  but make sure that this directories exists  /media/main
[08:15] <james296> what is wrong with doc.gwos.org?
[08:15] <kalorin> heh
i have
[08:15] <joebob777as7> cables not that i know of
[08:15] <techie1> the livecd works great
[08:15] <omeil> unop: yea i created it before :) when i wasn't succesful lol
[08:15] <megafauna> Hi, VLC crashes when I try to play my Futurama DVD, any suggestions? I have installed easyUbuntu and the system plays other DVDs as well
[08:15] <cables> james296, it's not loading for me. We don't know any more than you about it.
[08:15] <james296> I NEED to know whats wrong with doc.gwos.org
the livecd works great but I wanted to actually install this unto an already partitioned windows xp. That's whey I need to provide or resize my partition.
[08:16] <james296> ok
[08:16] <cables> james296, the server is down.
[08:16] <cables> james296, seriously, we don't know any more information about it than you.
[08:16] <chorse> techie1: ah, so i misunderstood you :)
[08:16] <mhhz> james296: how would anyone here know what's going on with that website other than it's down
[08:16] <james296> it has been down since 10:00...
[08:16] <joebob777as7> techie1 use gparted it rocks you should be able to resize with it
[08:16] <timoheikkila> I upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10 and now some programs like OOffice and Songbird which I just installed will not start at all. Net works ok. Do I have to reinstall 6.10
I got you.
[08:16] <amaan> how do i get folders with locks on them deleted?
[08:17] <fletch007> Quintin: ok I am through the reconfig of the xorg. so now I just reboot? and see?
[08:17] <unop> amaan,  you need to use the superuser for that
[08:17] <eric_> mhhz, i am not registered so i havent been able to respond
[08:17] <joebob777as7> timoheikkia you should be able to just reinstall those apps using apt
the dualboot should be straightforward except for that discrepancy in the systemcd language.
[08:17] <omeil> unop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7458/
[08:17] <james296> it has to be a serious issue...its been down for 4 hours...
[08:17] <Quintin> fletch007: just ctrl + alt + backspace
[08:17] <yellow> amaan, sudo rm -rf /path/to.foler
[08:17] <amaan> how do you use superuser? unop?
[08:17] <amaan> oh
[08:17] <cables> !offtopic | james296
[08:17] <ubotu> james296: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:17] <james296> but that has to do with Ubuntu how is that off topic?
[08:17] <cables> james296, doc.gwos.org is not Ubuntu. You're not having an Ubuntu problem, so this is not the right place to be.
[08:17] <yellow> amaan, be careful, you might want to do ls /path/to/folder first to check if those are the files/folders you want to delete
[08:18] <eric_> mhhz: i didnt delete my partition table, it just seems to have done something with how it gets displayed in windows explorer or gparted
thanks anyway, maybe I need to go to sleep and think about this some more. Thanks nonetheless for input.
[08:18] <cables> james296, it does not have to do with Ubuntu, it has to do with someone else's servers going down.
[08:18] <eric_> mhhz: fdisk seems fine, and my windows partition is even mounted fine
[08:18] <amaan> thanks yellow
[08:18] <chorse> techie1: you're welcome
[08:18] <james296> it has to do with Ubuntu, without it I wont get my display running properly as I want it
[08:18] <unop> omeil,  are you dualbooting with windows?
[08:18] <cables> james296, then ask us here.
[08:18] <unop> !nvidia
[08:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:19] <omeil> unop: no. that partition used to be the one where i install games/and store downloads
[08:19] <james296> Im talking the LATEST driver update, the one that recently got out of beta
[08:19] <yellow> amaan, wildcards * and ? can also be used for rm and ls
[08:19] <cables> james296, if you're having an Ubuntu problem, ask us about the problem... don't ask us about a site which we have no control over.
[08:19] <omeil> unop: dosen't have windows on it.
[08:19] <yellow> (pretty much anything else amof )
[08:19] <unop> omeil,  used to be? does it not have anything on it anymore?
[08:19] <fletch007> Quintin. it seems to have worked . I am now at 1280x1024
[08:19] <cables> !nvidiabeta | james296
[08:19] <ubotu> james296: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[08:19] <omeil> unop: yeah it has all the files that i had
[08:19] <amaan> thanks again yellow it worked
[08:19] <omeil> unop: basically folders. no windows componants
[08:20] <james296> is it still in beta or no cuz I thought its out of beta...
[08:20] <yellow> np amaan
[08:20] <mhhz> eric_: so you've got multiple partitions and they're not all showing up - is that the problem?
[08:20] <l2s> hi anyone know how to shut off all pwoer mgt from the command line in ubuntu desktop
[08:20] <unop> omeil,  hmm, well, it's complaining that the drive might need to be cleaned -- so you're only option is to go the linux way with ntfsfix
[08:20] <Quintin> fletch007: super.  tips are welcome :P
[08:20] <l2s> my nic keeps going to sleep
[08:20] <unop> omeil,  which i have no experience with
[08:20] <unop> omeil,  do you have sufficient space on another harddisk?
[08:20] <l2s> i could really use the help
[08:20] <omeil> I tried and it denies it :(
[08:21] <anandanbu> how do i install java in ubuntu
[08:21] <unop> !java | anandanbu
[08:21] <ubotu> anandanbu: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:21] <fletch007> Quintin: so I will try to boot straight up and see if it hangs at the login screen. I have a good workaround to get back here if it does. thanks so much for your help. send me that link again so I can contribute to your cause.
[08:21] <eric_> mhhz: they dont show up in gparted, but they do show up in fdisk.  and i am able to mount the other ones, non linux ones.  my system is fine, except for in gparted and i want to resize them but cant
[08:21] <Softly> hello
[08:21] <unop> !hi
[08:21] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:21] <omeil> unop: i have 2.5gb free on this and 64gb on the ntfs
[08:22] <eric_> mhhz: how can i just have fdisk rewrite the partition table?
[08:22] <Quintin> fletch007: link?  uhm.. daecom.biz is my website.  not much there ;)
[08:22] <l2s> could someone please help me turn off power mgt from the command line
[08:22] <l2s> the server is remote and keeps going to sleep
[08:22] <mhhz> eric_: are you running gparted from a livecd?
[08:22] <eric_> mhhz: no, i am in my install
[08:22] <unop> omeil,  hah, not enough -- only option is ntfsfix as that says ..
[08:22] <Quintin> quintin@janus:~$ sleep 19800 && mplayer alarm.mp3 && sleep 60 && mplayer alarm.mp3 && sleep 60 && mplayer alarm.mp3
[08:22] <fletch007> ok, got it. check you later.
[08:23] <omeil> unop:Volume is corrupt. You should run chkdsk.
[08:23] <megafauna> Hi, VLC crashes when I try to play my Futurama DVD, any suggestions? I have installed easyUbuntu and the system plays other DVDs as well
[08:23] <Quintin> !dvd
[08:23] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:23] <exs> how do I completely delete what's inside the trash?
[08:23] <Softly> unsure
[08:23] <Quintin> megafauna: see above
[08:23] <unop> Quintin,  wow, thats a long command for a simple at/cron :)
[08:23] <Kresjah_laptop> Anyone who can help me getting my machine up as a gateway server? I've been following a guide at yolinux.com, but at the last step where I add a route, I get a SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable error
[08:23] <mhhz> eric_: so this is during installation of ubuntu?
[08:23] <omeil> unop: thats what ntfsdix tells me
[08:23] <cables> exs, is it getting stuck on a folder?
[08:24] <Quintin> unop: I do not know how much time I get to sleep, or when I get up.  so I have to do it manually
[08:24] <eric_> mhhz: i installed yesterday, but today i wanted to change the partition sizes so i went into windows and tried to use partition magic
[08:24] <exs> cables: no, there's hidden files in my trash (21gb infact)
[08:24] <unop> omeil,  this is not good my man .. you really need to get that disk to a windows machine unfortunately
[08:24] <cables> exs, you could go to the trash, show hidden files, and delete them
[08:24] <omeil> unop: and clean it
[08:24] <exs> cables:  done that, nothing shows up
[08:25] <unop> Quintin,  there's a alarm plugin for mplayer .. does just that :)
[08:25] <omeil> or the other option is to format it and turn it to linux
[08:25] <cables> exs, can you bring up a terminal?
[08:25] <exs> cables:  I know there's files in there because the disk usage analyzer tells me there is
[08:25] <unop> omeil,  yep, you know it :)
[08:25] <exs> cables:  yes.
[08:25] <Quintin> unop: google can't find it...
[08:25] <Quintin> ok, really leaving this time.. bie bie
[08:25] <cables> exs, ls -a ~/.Trash
[08:26] <wims> are there any package for ubuntu that contain mod_python ?
[08:26] <exs> cables:  ".  .."
[08:26] <cables> exs, hold on
[08:26] <cables> exs, sudo ls -a /home/*/.Trash
[08:26] <unop> wims,  sure -- this should find it for you -- aptitude search python | grep -i mod
[08:27] <exs> cables:  ".  .."
[08:27] <cables> exs, there's nothing in your trash
[08:27] <exs> cables:  I've deleted over 10gb of files and i've still only got 1.8gb free
[08:28] <fedora_> test
[08:28] <cables> exs, well it's certainly not in your trash
[08:28] <exs> disk usage anaylzer tells me it is
[08:28] <cables> exs, what folder is it in?
[08:28] <nytejade`mb> How do I go about installing an older kernel version?
[08:28] <megafauna> Quintin: thanks, am reading now
[08:28] <nytejade`mb> THe one being used currently isn't booting.
[08:28] <unop> test acknowledged: real	0m10.017s
[08:28] <Kresjah_laptop> Anyone who can help me getting my machine up as a gateway server? I've been following a guide at yolinux.com, but at the last step where I add a route, I get a SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable error
[08:29] <cables> exs, what folder does the disk usage analyzer tell you it's in?
[08:29] <exs> cables:  it's scanning. i can't tell you until it's finished the scan
[08:30] <RememberPOL> Does anyone know how to get sound working in Quake3?
[08:31] <omeil> RememberPOL: what type of quake 3 are u running? with wine or cedega?
[08:31] <RememberPOL> native
[08:31] <omeil> hmm haven't tried that :(
[08:31] <RememberPOL> :|
[08:31] <omeil> does it run good?
[08:31] <vrkhans> hi problem , i just install ubuntu, and really frustrated, because i got this error msg , BusyBox v1.1.3 (debian 1:1.1.3-2ubuntu3) built-in shell(ash)
[08:31] <RememberPOL> ioquake3's sound works fine
[08:31] <anandanbu> can i install KDevelop in ubuntu 6.10 and how
[08:31] <RememberPOL> but then punkbuster doesn't work
[08:31] <RememberPOL> yeah q3 runs good
[08:32] <drewsus> Hello everyone!
[08:32] <vrkhans> can any one help me
[08:32] <cables> !anyone | vrkhans
[08:32] <ubotu> vrkhans: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:32] <kelsin> omeil: all ID software games run in linux natively, as well as Unreal2004 and others
[08:32] <Kresjah_laptop> Someone? I really need to get that gateway server up and running!
[08:33] <kelsin> omeil: which reminds me I need to finally buy quake 4 since it's cheap now
[08:33] <vrkhans> cable you know anything about my problem
[08:33] <RememberPOL> hmm
[08:33] <cables> vrkhans, ask your question
[08:33] <acid_phyre> anyone know why when i go to install 6.20 it wont load the partiton on manual?
[08:33] <RememberPOL> omeil: these commands solves the problem
[08:33] <RememberPOL> echo "quake3.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[08:33] <RememberPOL> echo "quake3.x86 0 0 disable" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss
[08:33] <cables> vrkhans, never mind, I didn't see you asked before.
[08:33] <vivid> Has anyone found a solution to installing games in cedega under Edgy? after running dpkg-reconfigure dash?
[08:33] <RememberPOL> i wonder what the real issue is though, oh well
[08:34] <mau> has anybody successfully installed WOW on Edgy?
[08:34] <omeil> vivid: don' u just install them normaly?
[08:34] <vivid> ^^^
[08:34] <kelsin> mau I have, it was just a matter of installing wine 9.30, then copying my windows isntall, I've heard the installer runs fine though
[08:34] <vivid> because of dash in edgy, no
[08:34] <acid_phyre> anyone have a issue when trying to install edgy of not being able to load the partiton  manual
[08:34] <vrkhans> error : busybox v1.1.3 (debian 1:1.1.3-2 ubuntu 3) .... /bin/sh: cant access tty; job countrol turned off
[08:34] <burepe> joebob777as7: read all the way to the bottom before you attempt anything http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67525
[08:35] <mau> kelsin, that easy huh?
[08:35] <vrkhans> cable did you read what i wrote
[08:35] <mau> so i can just run the installer if I have wine?
[08:35] <kelsin> yeah, make sure you get wine here: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[08:36] <kelsin> mau: follow those instrutions, wine past 9.28 I think runs wow without any patches, but if you add that repo you get the newest one, which for me runs War3, Starcraft and WoW right out of the box with no trouble at all
[08:36] <bulazeem> where can i go to host picture files?  i went to image shack and it said i couldnt do it
[08:36] <cypher1> is something broken edgy with respect to totem playing smb video files ? i was able to do this in dapper
[08:36] <cables> !offtopic | bulazeem
[08:36] <ubotu> bulazeem: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:36] <Hasrat_USA> just finished downloading Hackers divx. watching it on VLC media player in Linux. BRB all :)
[08:36] <cables> bulazeem, despite the offtopic-ness, try flickr.
[08:37] <vivid> kelsin: does this trick work for BC?
[08:37] <h1st0> Anyone know how to put a directory with sftp?  Is it possible?
[08:37] <vrkhans> cable : i dont know what to do
[08:37] <vrkhans> about this error
[08:37] <acid_phyre> anyone have problems loading partition table on manual when installing edgy?
[08:37] <cables> vrkhans, neither do I
[08:37] <kelsin> vivid: yeah, runs fine, I don't know what "TricK' you mean :)
[08:37] <kelsin> vivid: I'm on debian etch now, but was just playing BC for the last two hours
[08:37] <vivid> on edgy?
[08:38] <kelsin> tonight I'm on debian etch, but I was playing BC on edgy last week
[08:38] <kelsin> using the debs from winehq like I just linked
[08:38] <vrkhans> does any one know about the busy box error  ... /bin/sh: cant access tty; job countrol turned off
[08:38] <anandanbu> hi can someone help me install KDevelop it in Ubuntu 6.10
[08:39] <exs> cables:  http://exsub.com/tempory/disk.png -- Anyone else who knows what's the matter here, please tell me :)
[08:39] <kelsin> anandanbu: open up synaptic fmor the menus, search for kdevelop and install it
[08:40] <acid_phyre> can someone help me?
[08:40] <cables> exs, I don't see what's wrong...
[08:40] <omeil> vrkhans: i have the same issue i just enter exit and continue with the boot process :D
[08:40] <exs> cables:  look at the top numbers.
[08:40] <anandanbu> thanx kelsin
[08:40] <acid_phyre> this is suppost to be a support channel where is all the support
[08:40] <exs> 2 gb does not equate to 20gb
[08:41] <cables> exs, how much capacity do you have?
[08:41] <cables> exs, it looks like the numbers for home don't add up
[08:41] <exs> cables:  yes, that's the whole point
[08:42] <exs> 2gb does not equal 20gb
[08:42] <omeil> totem movie player is pretty good
[08:42] <ubm> acid_phyre i have found that if you just ask the question and wait someone will eventually answer it for you or at least point you in the right direction.  It looks like ardchoille is gone but im sure when he gets back he will help you with any question you have.
[08:42] <cables> exs, so you're wondering what's taking up all the space?
[08:42] <cables> exs, it's in your home directory. Probably a hidden folder
[08:43] <exs> cables: yes.
[08:43] <ubm> omeil totem owns i love that player.
[08:43] <cables> exs, my disk usage analyzer is showing hidden folders. Yours appears not to be.
[08:43] <exs> cables:  how do I fix this, what version is yours?
[08:43] <omeil> ubm: yup yup
[08:43] <cables> I'm using ubuntu 6.10
[08:44] <cables> esx ^^
[08:44] <acid_phyre> im just wondering why when i try to install edgy when i go to the partition table and try to manual partiton it locks up on me
[08:44] <wims> hmmm anyone have an idea why gedit becomes completely black when i run it with sudo ?
[08:44] <exs> cables:  so, what version is it? .. I'm also using edgy
[08:44] <acid_phyre> anyone else have that issue
[08:45] <kelsin> wims: maybe root has a wierd .gtkrc or .gtk2rc file in it's home directory?
[08:45] <acid_phyre> nvm i cant get no answer ill just drop it
[08:45] <ubm> acid_phyre is the partition ext3, and are you installing on a serial ata or ide? Is this on your notebook or desktop?
[08:46] <leros> i need help finding drivers for the synaptics touchpad on my laptop
[08:46] <cables> exs, i have no idea why it's not showing hidden files
[08:46] <kelsin> leros it didn't work right out of the box with a default ubuntu install?
[08:46] <acid_phyre> its a desktop and its a ide hard drive and yes i made a ext 3
[08:46] <leros> it works, but i need scrolling and stuff
[08:46] <ubm> acid_phyre are you using mkfs or a parted editor?
[08:46] <acid_phyre> and a swap
[08:46] <acid_phyre> im using the one when u click install
[08:47] <acid_phyre> on the cd
[08:47] <exs> cables:  I've stumbled upon something interesting.  http://www.marzocca.net/linux/baobab.html#changelog
[08:47] <leros> kelsin, perhaps i just need help configuring xorg.conf so I can enable functionality
[08:47] <acid_phyre> it looks all good then i click manual edit partition table and it freezes
[08:47] <ubm> acid_phyre ok did you have another operating system installed prior? Like with mabye an ntfs partition ?
[08:47] <acid_phyre> yes
[08:47] <umops> how can i change my current reslution frm the command line?
[08:47] <acid_phyre> but ive done it before with grub
[08:47] <kelsin> leros: in my ubuntu installs it has worked immediately without me having to edit anything, that's why I was asking
[08:47] <cables> exs, how is that interesting?
[08:47] <ubm> ok is this drive master or slave?
[08:48] <acid_phyre> drive is master
[08:48] <ubm> and are you trying to dual boot?
[08:48] <ubm> with grub
[08:48] <acid_phyre> i will be dual booting
[08:48] <leros> kelsin, well my touchpad works but I don't scrolling
[08:48] <acid_phyre> but no not yet
[08:48] <exs> cables:  well, the 'disk usage analyzer' appears to have changed its name to baobab, and the program has been majorly updated
[08:48] <koabara> hi, how can i deny access to user for a specific directory? for example /backup
[08:48] <acid_phyre> i made the partitions for it already
[08:48] <cables> exs, disk usage analyzer IS baobab. Just relabeled.
[08:48] <exs> cables: different version number
[08:49] <acid_phyre> but it wont load the partition table on manual
[08:49] <ubm> ok so you already have an ntfs partition is it active atm and what did you use to create the ext3 file system?
[08:49] <acid_phyre> freezes up
[08:49] <omeil> Can ubuntu get avi. convertion software?
[08:49] <zoidberg> hey guys
[08:49] <ubm> ok one sec im going to point you somewhere and i want you to try this
[08:49] <zoidberg> i'm trying to download scummvm from apt-get install
[08:49] <acid_phyre> yes i have ntfs partiton and i used partiton magic to create it
[08:49] <zoidberg> i get this message about an umet dependcy
[08:49] <umops> how can i change my current reslution frm the command line?
[08:49] <zoidberg> libflac6
[08:49] <zoidberg> and i cant install that either
[08:49] <zoidberg> ?
[08:50] <zoidberg> any help
[08:50] <umops> try install the dependency
[08:50] <kelsin> leros: make sure you ahve [Option "SHMConfig"]  (without the [] 's) in your xorg.conf then try one of the gui synaptics config programs
[08:50] <acid_phyre> i could just install 6.06 and upgrade
[08:50] <ultra> hello
[08:50] <ubm> acid_phyre can you boot from cd into x?
[08:50] <acid_phyre> yes i can
[08:51] <ubm> ok can you do it now
[08:51] <acid_phyre> im in it now
[08:51] <acid_phyre> this is my lappy
[08:51] <zoidberg> it says libfalc6 is not available
[08:51] <zoidberg> ?
[08:51] <cables> exs, ok, hold on a sec
[08:51] <zoidberg> can anyone help me
[08:51] <zoidberg> ?
[08:51] <kelsin> leros: (that line goes into the the right input device section like here: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/24/disable-synaptics-touchpad/ )
[08:51] <ubm> acid_phyre ok do this 'sudo apt-get install qtparted
[08:52] <koabara> my question is simple, i have a directory /backup/, only root can see the contents of this directory with ls command, but as this directory contains backup data, some files can be deleted by users. how can i prevent it to happen?
[08:52] <bushblows> is their a bash script or something I can create so that users on an ubuntu 6.06 server box cant become root, the only person who can gain root access hast to connecting from a certain IP
[08:52] <acid_phyre> yea thats what it keeps trying to load
[08:52] <ultra> i've installled beryl and is fantastic
[08:52] <acid_phyre> but freezes
[08:52] <leros> kelsin, thank you
[08:52] <zoidberg> can anyone help me
[08:52] <umops> try install the dependency
[08:52] <ultra> what is the problem
[08:52] <umops> how can i change my current reslution frm the command line?
[08:52] <kelsin> leros: hope it works :) just an idea to make config easier
[08:52] <ubm> acid_phyre apt-get remove qtparted then reinstall
[08:52] <cables> exs, to find what's taking up all the space, open up your home folder, then go to view>show hidden files
[08:53] <ubm> if that dosnt work is the partition hda2?
[08:53] <cables> exs, then, on the right, choose View As List from the dropdown box. Click the Size column to sort by size.
[08:53] <acid_phyre> it worked
[08:53] <zoidberg> umops, i tried but it says it cant be found
[08:53] <yevgeny> Are there people from Ukraine here?
[08:53] <happytron> hi, i'm having a problem where new windows load too high on the screen so that I can't see their titlebars (gnome+beryl)
[08:53] <voxvam> how can i access an ntfs partition when i am locked out because of root not even sudo chmod works    also tried sudo chmod -R 777 to give me total access  but it still doesnt
[08:53] <acid_phyre> thank you
[08:53] <ultra> near
[08:53] <ultra> romania
[08:53] <zoidberg> umops, it says that it is refereed somewhere though
[08:53] <ultra> :)
[08:53] <umops> zoidberg, , okay hm
[08:54] <ubm> your welcome dont come back in here saying nobody will help :)
[08:54] <yevgeny> ultra nice
[08:54] <[andrewr] > hi all, I have ubuntu running in colinux and vnc (colinux doesn't support x), pretty cool.  But when I try to start fluxbox as my WM I get http://pastie.caboo.se/42810  any ideas why?
[08:54] <ubm> :P
[08:54] <acid_phyre> but it took that for someone to recognize
[08:54] <cables> exs, sorry... that doesn't sort by size, it sorts by number of items
[08:54] <acid_phyre> i do appreciate it alot thoujgh
[08:54] <acid_phyre> though
[08:55] <ubm> hey man no problem i know how it is bro
[08:55] <exs> cables:  its ok, don't worry, ill fix it
[08:55] <acid_phyre> dunno why i needed to do that bc edgy installed fine on this laptop
[08:56] <ubm> acid_phyre i have had similar issues in the past
[08:56] <ubm> what kind of notebook are you installing on?
[08:56] <acid_phyre> that was a desktop i was installing on there
[08:56] <Edward_> hi
[08:57] <acid_phyre> this is my sony vaio
[08:57] <voxvam> !colinux
[08:57] <gyaresu> bushblows: You might take a look at this. re: root access. http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/pam_wheel.8.html
[08:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about colinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:57] <voxvam> !ntfs
[08:57] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:58] <voxvam> !fuse
[08:58] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:58] <ubm> heh let me ask you something when you created the partition initially did you commit? you mentioned that you used some 3rd party app to edit your disk right? I assume you did this from windows...
[08:58] <bushblows> gyaresu: thank you will do
[08:58] <voxvam> is it possible to install ubuntu to a fat file system
[08:58] <acid_phyre> yea i did it from windows
[08:59] <acid_phyre> makes since bc i did a complete install on this laptop
[08:59] <umops> how can i change my current reslution frm the command line?
[08:59] <acid_phyre> no dual boot
[08:59] <gyaresu> bushblows: I'm sorry I can't think, exactly how to do what you want. Maybe someone else will know.
[09:00] <kevcast> How do I get video support?
[09:00] <bushblows> well I should be able to figure it out, just did not know if it were possible
[09:00] <acid_phyre> kevcast: for which video card?
[09:01] <noobie0057> hello, ubuntu is not detecting my external 320 gig usb hard drive from Acomdata
[09:01] <ubm> umops you need to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config
[09:01] <gOLdenHaWK3D> hi all
[09:01] <cables> exs, you still here?
[09:01] <ubm> use nano or any editor really
[09:01] <exs> cables:  yes. i think it was just a display problem
[09:02] <CaptSaltyJack> whee.. xchat rocks
[09:02] <cables> exs, here's a command to sort all folders in your home folder by size: dir -a | xargs du -s | sort -g
[09:02] <ubm> CaptSaltyJack yeah xchat is the shiznic
[09:02] <umops> ubm, i dont have that file
[09:02] <CaptSaltyJack> i'm just going through different apps, seeing how easily I could replace Windows.  seems like it's pretty easy :)
[09:03] <CaptSaltyJack> WinXP really isn't all that
[09:03] <ubm> umops ok what window manager are you using?
[09:03] <umops> gnome
[09:03] <noobie0057> external hard drive not detected (fdisk -l returns nothing)
[09:03] <CaptSaltyJack> ok i'm out. later
[09:03] <voxvam> noobie0057, ok what type of system do you have
[09:04] <exs> cables:  1804532 gtk-gnutella-downloads, 4425776 Applications, 12954108 Torrents, 21068028, 21068036
[09:04] <ubm> umops /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:04] <noobie0057> voxvam: it's an old dell that used to have windows me on it
[09:04] <ubm> umops try xorgconfig to test
[09:04] <voxvam> does it have usb 2.0 ports
[09:04] <drfoz> anyone can tell me how to install nvidia drivers on feisty with the low latency kernel?
[09:04] <noobie0057> voxvam: yes
[09:04] <crimsun> drfoz: using the version in the repo or your own?
[09:05] <cables> exs, did that tell you which folders were taking up the most space?
[09:05] <noobie0057> voxvam: I can successfully use a usb internal hard-drive enclosure
[09:05] <crimsun> !envy > drfoz
[09:05] <umops> ubm, how do i run xorgconfig?
[09:05] <cables> exs, try this: dir -A | xargs du -s | sort -g -r
[09:05] <cables> exs,  that will list in descending order
[09:06] <exs> cables:  hmm, well, i think the problem I see is that 'torrents' being the largest directory should be under 'engle' (that is, my home directory)
[09:06] <voxvam> noobie0057, but that doesn't neccicerly mean u have usb 2.0
[09:06] <cables> exs, too many torrents?
[09:06] <ubm> umops goto xterm and run xorgconfig or  X -configure mv /root/xorg.conf.new /root/xorg.default.conf <--- for automatic configuration
[09:06] <exs> but because it is not, im under  afalse impression that there's hidden space... Its basically the error that disk usage analyzer does because torrents IS WITHIN engle
[09:07] <umops> ubm, i changed my resolution to smething my screen obviously doesnt like, it gives me 'out of range' error,  i think i just need to do something different
[09:07] <kevcast> acid_phyre: I'm not sure. The link to the specs is here http://www.dealtime.com/xPF-CPQ-SR1230NX-Desktop-CPQ-SR1230NX-Desktop.
[09:07] <umops> ubm, i will give that a shot
[09:07] <noobie0057> voxvam: it is compatible with 1.1 (so it says on the box), but yes the machine has only 1.1
[09:07] <cables> exs, that's weird. I guess you found the problem.
[09:07] <ubm> umops
[09:07] <ubm> ctrl + backspace
[09:07] <exs> basically, the problem that is going on is that disk usage analyzer is forgetting that torrents and the other folders are a sub-folder of engle.
[09:07] <umops> ubm, tried, and it is stuck in that resolution :(
[09:08] <ubm> ctrl _alt_backspace
[09:08] <DrBlink> ever since i enabled wifi on this laptop - boot up takes forever...anyone know why?
[09:08] <voxvam> noobie0057, on the box it says 1.1 compatible. hmmmmmm  ok have you tried to mount the hard drive yourself  and what file system is on the hd
[09:08] <umops> ubm, thanks, id tried that 3 times but now it works :)
[09:09] <ubm> ;)
[09:09] <umops> ubm, spoke too soon, when i actually login i get out of range error
[09:09] <ubm> ok thats alright
[09:10] <ubm> one sec
[09:10] <umops> ok
[09:10] <ubm> umops can you get into terminal?
[09:11] <umops> ubm, yea
[09:11] <ubm> what happens when you xconfig
[09:11] <noobie0057> voxvam: no,, I'm still new to new linux,, I'm not sure about the filesystem. I just pulled it out of the box. I'll look into how to mount it, discover the filesystem and if necessary format it. Thanks for the help!!
[09:12] <IProteus> I'm installing Ubuntu (EFT) on a brand new system with a 80GB unpartitioned harddrive.
[09:12] <IProteus> I want to
[09:12] <IProteus> 1) Leave about 10 GB for windows
[09:12] <IProteus> 2) Have home and program? partitions separate, so if there's a problem with the install or I want to upgrade, I'd like to just wipe the partition which does not contain my data and install
[09:12] <ubm> acid_phyre IProteus could use some help :)
[09:12] <IProteus> I'm not entirely sure how I go about #2. what mount point do I specify for this scheme etc? - I think the defualt partitioning simply creates one ext3 and one swap partition, not something I want.
[09:12] <umops> ubm, when i do X -configure, it says server is already active
[09:13] <ubm> ok can you do this Test and then use <CTRL>+<ALT>+<BKSP> to kill X  then  X -config /root/xorg.default.conf
[09:13] <voxvam> noobie0057, if you have just pulled it out of the box you need to format it. i suggest use gnome partition editor in system > administration
[09:14] <noobie0057> voxvam: oh ok, I'll try it
[09:16] <ubm> umops you may want to read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=129379&postcount=21
[09:16] <noobie0057> voxvam: I don't seem to have that program, I have Disks and Device Manager
[09:16] <ubm> also always make backups as in cp myfile myfile.bak
[09:16] <ubm> before you make a change :)
[09:17] <umops> ubm, ok thanks
[09:17] <IProteus> guys, any help? I just want to know aht mount point I need to use for the "home" paritition, just how I can make sure the progreams are installed into one partition and my home folder is on another.
[09:17] <chorse> IProteus: /home
[09:18] <chorse> IProteus: you can have a look on your mounts by typing `mount` or `df`
[09:18] <davs_coy> there are indonesian english
[09:18] <IProteus> okay, thanks. there aren't too many programs going to be installed - how much space do you suggest for root?
[09:19] <davs_coy> oi
[09:19] <voxvam> noobie0057, use disks
[09:19] <davs_coy> kumaha damang
[09:19] <voxvam> noobie0057, are you using ubuntu 5.10
[09:20] <noobie0057> voxvam: it's 6.06
[09:21] <voxvam> noobie0057, one sec brb
[09:21] <davs_coy> jhbiuhdiuhig
[09:23] <Lice> W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3FF0DB166A7476EA
[09:23] <Lice> i get this error when i follow the beryl FAQ
[09:23] <horstjens> question (ubuntu edgy): how do i convert an .mpeg-video into .avi ? (i want to use kino for editing the video)
[09:23] <Lice> anyone know what i could've missed?
[09:25] <voxvam> noobie0057, what do you want to store on this hard drive. do you want it so you can read and write with both windows and linux
[09:25] <noobie0057> voxvam: yes
[09:25] <noobie0057> coxvam: it's 320 gigs,, so I think I'll need to partition it a few times?
[09:26] <voxvam> noobie0057, do you have a windows comp lying around
[09:26] <noobie0057> vaxvam: yes
[09:26] <voxvam> noobie0057, you can have it as 1 massive partition
[09:26] <noobie0057> voxvam: sorry I'm getting your handle wrong
[09:26] <noobie0057> voxvam: ok, I'd prefer that
[09:27] <noobie0057> voxvam: I thought fat32 had some upper limit
[09:27] <voxvam> noobie0057, to make it readible to both systems you want to use a fat32 file system according to windows or vfat on linux
[09:29] <noobie0057> voxvam: ok,, thanks
[09:29] <voxvam> noobie0057, it doesn't have a limit. what your thinking about is the bios limit not to read drives larger then 32gb. but this is over comed by using a ddo Dynamic Drive Overlay  but since this is a usb disk and not internal you don't have to worry about limits
[09:30] <noobie0057> voxvam: ahh, ok. How should I proceed?
[09:31] <drewsus> hello everyone!
[09:31] <drewsus> hello all. I was wondering if I could seek some help. I have installed Ubuntu 6.10 on my desktop (amd 3800+, 128mb ATI Radieon x300, 768MB RAM, 120GB Western Digital IDE HDD, EliteGroup RX480-A Motherboard). The installation went fine, but after the first reboot the PC freezes at the Ubuntu Boot screen. The progress part hardly even has a chance to start moving. I thought maybe it just needed time, but I watched a movie and it still hadn't mo
[09:31] <drewsus> hda:hda dma_intr: status 0x51 {DriveReady SeekComplete Error}
[09:31] <drewsus> hda:dma_intr: error=0x84 {DriveStatusError BadCRC}
[09:31] <drewsus> ide:failed opcode was: unknown
[09:31] <drewsus> I then tried installing on a 40GB Maxtor IDE HDD. Exact same results. Can anyone offer any help? I really want to get Ubuntu up and running and free myself of Windows!
[09:31] <IProteus> is it possilbe to non-destructively resize an ext3 partition?
[09:31] <ubm> IProteus yes
[09:32] <voxvam> drewsus, sounds like a bad disk to me. how did you get this disk
[09:32] <IProteus> cool. I just skip the windows parition for now then.
[09:32] <ubm> yep
[09:32] <nowimproved> [00000267]  xvideo video output error: cannot allocate shared image data (No space left on device)
[09:32] <nowimproved> it get this error when running vlc
[09:32] <danp> anyone familiar with preseeding? i'm having a really hard time preseeding the admin password with the slapd package
[09:32] <IProteus> allright guys, thanks. I'll catch you later.
[09:33] <drewsus> they are from my old PC. I also have a SATA drive. So you think both of my IDE hard drives are dead at the same time? thats crappy
[09:33] <voxvam> drewsus, no i think the install cd is messed up
[09:33] <drewsus> but, I can install windows on both of these drives and it works fune
[09:34] <drewsus> hmm, I have also tried various install cds, burning at 4x
[09:34] <ubm> drewsus voxam just said its the install cd :)
[09:34] <unimatrix9> hello there
[09:35] <voxvam> drewsus, did you varify the burn?
[09:35] <unimatrix9> what has happened to gdesklets? is it obsolete?
[09:35] <drewsus> and I just said I tried various. desktop i386 (redownloaded, reburnt at x4), alternate i386, amd64 cd, ultimate 1.2 dvd. and I checked every cd I installed
[09:35] <unimatrix9> the home page seems to be gone...
[09:35] <omeil> can windows XP read Linux partitions? i mean read/write?
[09:36] <unimatrix9> was it incompatibale with beryl? what has replaced the gdesklets?
[09:36] <voxvam> omeil, NO i mean not as far as i know
[09:36] <red_lotus> why ubuntu don`t play dvds?
[09:36] <posingaspopular> red_lotus: it does
[09:36] <unimatrix9> omeil, there are two programs that read linux partitions from windows
[09:36] <drewsus> I suppose maybe I should give installing on my SATA Hitachi drive a try?
[09:36] <red_lotus> posingaspopular>
[09:37] <posingaspopular> what do you mean it doesnt?
[09:37] <voxvam> drewsus, thats awesome but what program did you use to burn the disks.
[09:37] <drewsus> nero
[09:37] <red_lotus>  well i just finish to make the instructions in the help and keeps don`t play well i finish 3 instructions to make play dvds in ubuntu to be right and nathing
[09:37] <voxvam> drewsus, did you click on the verify box
[09:37] <omeil> unimatrix9: oh ok
[09:37] <PseudoPlacebo> Hi I'm trying to aptitude something from my server and I get this error "Media Change: Please insert the disc labeled 'Ubuntu-Server 6.06.1 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060807.1)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter" but I don't have the CD- how do I set it to use the web?
[09:37] <ubm> red_lotus ist not ubuntu that dosnt play dvds its a legal issue which i cannot explain to you as it would take to long... the codecs dont come with the distro you need to install them yourself.
[09:38] <unimatrix9> omeil, whats your linux partition formatted as?
[09:38] <unimatrix9> ext 3?
[09:38] <drewsus> no, I suppose I could give that a try. but I did verify the cds upon boot.... I guess that is my last option. thank you for the advice, I will try and come back with my results. that you
[09:38] <red_lotus> ubm yes and i folow the instructions to play the dvd ... and nathing well to be more right i follow 3 instructions and nathing
[09:38] <omeil> unimatrix9: i think so
[09:38] <noobie0057> voxvam: I'm running into a problem. I don't have a file /dev/sda so I can't fdisk it
[09:39] <omeil> red_lotus: did u try download tthe codecs?
[09:39] <red_lotus> well i build i download i type one command that they say to type it and nathing
[09:39] <Xif> Hi. How do I install new fonts on Ubunutu?
[09:39] <red_lotus> i use the synaptic and nathing ...
[09:39] <red_lotus> libdvdread3 and nathing
[09:39] <voxvam> drewsus, if all else fails go to the ubuntu website and use shipit  it worked for me took 2 weeks but then agian i am in canada so it takes longer
[09:40] <Flannel> !fonts | Xif
[09:40] <ubotu> Xif: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[09:40] <omeil> hmm not sure. i just went to add/remove looked at programs selected about 30 and downloaded not sure what i got lol :D but everything works
[09:40] <unimatrix9> omeil the program for you is http://freshmeat.net/projects/explore2fs
[09:40] <Xif> Flannel: thanks
[09:40] <omeil> thx
[09:41] <omeil> can ubuntu get different themes?
[09:41] <ubm> omeil yes
[09:41] <voxvam> noobie0057,use windows to format it. it works better that way
[09:42] <omeil> ubm: i tried getting one as a .deb package, i installed it but then i checked themes and nothing
[09:42] <ubm> omeil what windows manager are you currently using? kde gnome or fluxbox?
[09:42] <noobie0057> voxvam:  fat32 1 partition is ok?
[09:42] <sgraham> http://www.gnome-look.org/ is a good place for ubuntu themes.
[09:42] <omeil> ubm: im not sure what u mean by that :(
[09:42] <voxvam> noobie0057,yes
[09:42] <ubm> omeil its ok your probably using gnome
[09:42] <noobie0057> voxvam: thanks for your help!!
[09:43] <omeil> ubm: how do i check?
[09:43] <PseudoPlacebo> Hi I'm trying to aptitude something from my server and I get this error "Media Change: Please insert the disc labeled 'Ubuntu-Server 6.06.1 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060807.1)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter" but I don't have the CD- how do I set it to use the web?
[09:43] <omeil> ubm: yeah ithink its gnome. on the system drop down list it says GNOME
[09:43] <ubm> omeil when you login do you see an option called 'session' that will tell you your window manager
[09:43] <voxvam> noobie0057,thats what this channel is here for
[09:43] <ubm> gnome is default so your probably using gnome
[09:43] <foxiness> hi,i have tar file with many-folder name it on windows with local char asci "windows-1256" what appear to me like that "??????????????" and tar give me this output "tar: mnt/win/blabla/?????????/something.wmv: Cannot open: No such file or directory ,,,, tar: Skipping to next header"
[09:43] <ubm> as sgraham said check out gnome-look.org
[09:44] <mayer> hey i need help with getting duel screen working, any1 that can help with that? i got Nvidia Asus EN7600GS with 2 19" neovo F-419
[09:44] <n3rrd> Is there an easy way to check the address of the parallel port, outside of the BIOS in Ubuntu?
[09:44] <omeil> ubm: is gnome the best or?
[09:44] <ubm> the themes arnt .deb files they should be tarballs
[09:44] <ubm> or bziped
[09:44] <omeil> hmm weird
[09:44] <omeil> i got a .deb some how lol
[09:44] <ubm> omeil i use fluxbox but if your new to linux i would suggest gnome or kde
[09:45] <ubm> i personally like kde
[09:45] <n3rrd> Anyone know if there is a way to check the address of the parallel port through x-term?
[09:45] <omeil> ubm: is there a big difference?
[09:45] <ubm> omeil you can install kde with ease by going to terminal and using this command 'sudo apt-get install kde
[09:45] <ubm> omeil yes
[09:45] <DrBlink> ever since i enabled wifi on this laptop - boot up takes forever...anyone know why?
[09:45] <ubm> omeil check out kde-look.org
[09:45] <voxvam> foxiness, why dont you just extract the *.wmv file just by it's self that way you don't have to deal with then invallid name
[09:46] <foxiness> voxvam: this an backup of c: partition hold 40GB :)
[09:47] <Gfather> hello everyone
[09:47] <omeil> so is the kde look more customizable?
[09:47] <foxiness> voxvam: and i want to resotre it to /dev/hda1 mount it on /mnt/win
[09:47] <Gfather> is there someone who can help me with ubuntu 6.06?
[09:47] <ubm> omeil in my humble opinion yes
[09:47] <ubm> they are both great window managers... as for ease of use I prefer kde over gnome
[09:48] <foxiness> Gfather: this a help room just ask
[09:48] <Softly> hey
[09:48] <omeil> hmm i think i used the kde dekstop before. might have been through mandrake
[09:48] <n3rrd> no suggestions?
[09:48] <Xif> How do I install PHP (cl) on Ubuntu?
[09:48] <Softly> don't know
[09:48] <Gfather> foxiness: i got trouble with the size of certain screens and the letters when i need to login
[09:48] <Gfather> foxiness: and i got a problem with connecting to internet
[09:48] <hwdyki> which package is qtconfig in?
[09:49] <Gfather> Xif: which version of PHP?
[09:49] <Gfather> 4 or 5?
[09:49] <voxvam> foxiness, sorry i don't know much about tar i am quite new to linux  but to back up complete hard drives or partitions i used dd. to know more just man dd
[09:49] <Gfather> foxines: do you mind if i pm you?
[09:50] <foxiness> how can i change ubuntu defalut from utf-8 to local one ? like windows-xxxx?
[09:50] <omeil> i guess kde does look pretty cool.
[09:50] <ubm> omeil google superkaramba
[09:50] <ubm> its the shit
[09:50] <exs> I'm using tomboy for sticky notes, but the notes are now in my task bar!... I would use 'sticky notes' but everytime i click an icon on the desktop, the notes disapear.
[09:50] <foxiness> Gfather: its better to ask your Q here to find who know the sol
[09:50] <omeil> sounds amazing lol :D
[09:51] <mayer> hey i need help with getting duel screen working, any1 that can help with that? i got Nvidia Asus EN7600GS with 2 19" neovo F-419 pm me if u like
[09:51] <Xif> Gfather: 4.3.9
[09:52] <omeil> ubm:superkaramba kde look?
[09:52] <Gfather> i use a pentium 2 computer with an old screen (640x480) with ubuntu. when i start up i need to enter my username. when i do that, the letters are so big that the text area only shows the middle 10% of the letters
[09:52] <Gfather> the same thing is when i go to Add/Remove tools.. the screen there is too big for my resolution
[09:52] <Gfather> how can i get everything to fit on my resolution?
[09:53] <illriginal> anyone know if there's such thing as a myspace irc channel.... tryin to get my hands on a good tracker.
[09:53] <omeil> ubm: is superkaramba a theme client?
[09:53] <Gfather> Binaries for other systems
[09:53] <Gfather> We do not distribute UNIX/Linux binaries. Most Linux distributions come with PHP these days, so if you do not want to compile your own, go to your distribution's download site.
[09:53] <Gfather> Xif
[09:53] <Gfather> read above
[09:53] <Gfather> i found that on www.php.net (official php site)
[09:54] <KenSentMe> illriginal, Google for myspace and irc, you can find some, but i don't know how crowded they are
[09:54] <Gfather> downloadlinks at: http://www.php.net/downloads.php
[09:54] <illriginal> yeah that's what i typed, "myspace irc channel"
[09:54] <oggy> I dont understand how automatix can disappear out of no where
[09:54] <oggy> just when I was getting ubuntu setup
[09:55] <Flannel> Xif: you can download either PHP5 or PHP4, 5 is 5.1.6, 4 is 4.4.2
[09:55] <diazepam> can anyone tell me what command i need to add to this line to get it to automatically insert a date into the filename of this tar archive:   $ tar cfvj backup.tar.bz2 $USER
[09:55] <Flannel> oggy: Automatix is a great way to break your system
[09:55] <Xif> Flannel: yeah, I'm looking for the CLI version specifically.
[09:55] <omeil> cedega takes long to install games
[09:55] <Flannel> Xif: that's the -cli package
[09:55] <oggy> didnt break mine
[09:55] <Flannel> Xif: php4-cli php5-cli
[09:55] <Xif> Flannel: yes, found it, thanks :)
[09:55] <oggy> worked ok
[09:55] <Flannel> !worksforme | oggy
[09:55] <ubotu> oggy: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:56] <oggy> then how do I installk swiftfox now
[09:56] <oggy> install even
[09:57] <oggy> now I have to research all over the internet on how to get swiftfox installed
[09:57] <omeil> So does world of warcraft work with wine?
[09:57] <Xif> ah, my Ubuntu looks so fine in that nifty T-ish Ubuntulooks.
[09:57] <Xif> omeil: yes.
[09:57] <Flannel> omeil: it does.
[09:57] <omeil> hmm interesting
[09:57] <oggy> Flannel how do I get swiftfox
[09:57] <omeil> Xif can i see a screeny ofur ubuntu :D
[09:57] <oggy> ?
[09:58] <omeil> gdb: its ok :D its for the good of the WOW lol
[09:58] <gdb> :-)
[09:58] <Flannel> oggy: download the .deb from the website, and install it by doubleclicking on it
[09:58] <Xif> omeil: NO!  she's only mine ;)
[09:58] <omeil> i can't play anything at the moment :(
[09:58] <oggy> how am I going toget a 32bit browswer on my 64bit ubuntu install
[09:58] <gdb> omeil: Speaking of WoW on Linux, I run it on XP, but I know people run it under Cedega (wine+dx9 support).  Does it work under stock Wine or does one need Cedega?
[09:58] <oggy> wheres the website FLannel
[09:59] <Xif> omeil: (get the T-ish pack here: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=30859 )
[09:59] <Gfather> is here anyone dutch with some knowledge about networking in ubuntu?
[09:59] <Flannel> oggy: I have no idea.  google says it's at getswiftfox.com
[09:59] <factotum> stock wine should work
[09:59] <Flannel> oggy: but, it appears to be down at the moment
[09:59] <goetiaoccultus> anyone know of software for ubuntu that is good for remote data gathering for research ? similiar to a web crawler or rss readers
[09:59] <oggy> oh thats nice
[09:59] <oggy> thanks
[09:59] <factotum> room mate had it running on gentoo with wine for a while
[09:59] <omeil> dgb:im not sure. i know wine might be capable of running it. cedega im pretty sure it runs it. but apparently people are being banned cause of using cedega to lplay wow..well thats what i heard from a forum
[10:00] <omeil> doh
[10:00] <gdb> omeil: That happened a few months ago and everyone's access was restored.
[10:00] <factotum> heh crossover office even supports it. im sure reg wine will work fine
[10:00] <omeil> gdb: or people are just lying i guess
[10:00] <gdb> omeil: Blizzard's software that is used to detect cheats generated false positives for Linux users.
[10:00] <oggy> so what do I use for a 32bit browser now
[10:00] <Flannel> oggy: firefox is installed
[10:00] <omeil> gdb: oh
[10:01] <gdb> omeil: Nah, I read the thread on the boards. Some devs posted about it and apologized to everyone
[10:01] <oggy> yeah and does firefox have adobe macromedia flash in 64bit
[10:01] <oggy> ?
[10:01] <gdb> omeil: Everyoen that was banned using Cedega was banned due to a false positive on a cheat detection.  Blizzard reinstated them all.
[10:01] <oggy> Flannel?
[10:02] <gdb> oggy: don't believe it does
[10:02] <Flannel> oggy: no.  But neither does swiftfox
[10:02] <omeil> gdb: hmm oh well there is no one to blame :)
[10:02] <foxiness> hi,how can i change the default of my system to be locale one like windows-1256 "not utf-8"?
[10:02] <oggy> swiftfox is 32bit and allows for its installation
[10:02] <gdb> :-D
[10:02] <oggy> yes it does cause I was using it
[10:02] <Flannel> oggy: oh.
[10:02] <Flannel> !chroot | oggy
[10:02] <omeil> gdb: i expected wow to be better tho. u expect more battles but nothing happens :D
[10:02] <ubotu> oggy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[10:03] <gdb> omeil: I'm in Sethekk Halls now on my rogue.  It's pretty hectic. ;-)
[10:03] <Flannel> oggy: See that on instruction.  You should've said this at the beginning.  You're looking for a whole different set of answers.
[10:03] <oggy> you mean I have to go through all of that just to get a working 32bit browser
[10:03] <oggy> ?
[10:03] <gdb> foxiness: is there such a locale?
[10:03] <Flannel> oggy: yes.  And you would for swiftfox too.
[10:03] <oggy> no I would install automatix and I wouldnt have to
[10:03] <Flannel> oggy: actually, you can't for swiftfox.  Because the deb would be 32bit.
[10:04] <gdb> While I understand the 'geek factor' in running 64 bit Linux, I see absolutely no valid justifcation for doing so on a home PC.
[10:04] <omeil> gdb: i don't see a big difference between the official servers and the private servers :D
[10:04] <omeil> gdb so u dual boot?
[10:04] <gdb> omeil: No
[10:04] <oggy> gdb no audio drivers with 32bit ubuntu
[10:04] <oggy> 64bit drivers for unbuntu yes
[10:04] <omeil> gdb: so how are u playing WoW?
[10:04] <oggy> thats what I run 64bit ubuntu
[10:05] <omeil> gdb: or are u only on xp
[10:05] <foxiness> gdb: what you mean?
[10:05] <Flannel> oggy: What are you talking about?  There's a binary driver released for 64bit only?  Which one?
[10:05] <gdb> omeil: I run WoW in a full screen window and use NX client to get a desktop on my Ubuntu machine.
[10:05] <Xif> I'm getting "PHP Warning:  mime_magic: type regex            BEGIN[[:space:] ] *[{]     application/x-awk invalid in Unknown on line 0" trying to run php-cli
[10:05] <gdb> I'm alt-tabbing back and forth waiting for our warrior to get back online from going DC
[10:05] <Xif> anyone knows why/how to fix?
[10:06] <oggy> I tried kubuntu , opensuse , and 32bit ubuntu none allow me to use audio
[10:06] <gdb> foxiness: I've never heard of a system locale in the format windows-*
[10:06] <zoidberg> hey guys
[10:06] <gdb> oggy: bizarro
[10:06] <goetiaoccultus> anyone here use eclipse?
[10:06] <zoidberg> how do you get the fancy transparent terminal that everyone has
[10:06] <zoidberg> i'm using xubuntu and would really like a transparent terminal
[10:06] <Flannel> oggy: 64bit and 32bit ubuntu are virtually identical.  Except in 64bit you can't use the binary-only drivers 32bit has
[10:07] <centrinel> is fluxbox cool for ubuntu?
[10:07] <goetiaoccultus> !aterm
[10:07] <gdb> zoidberg: click on Edit -> Profiles in GNOME terminal
[10:07] <omeil> u lost me when u said stuff about the stuff
[10:07] <ubotu> aterm: Afterstep XVT - a VT102 emulator for the X window system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-2 (edgy), package size 78 kB, installed size 224 kB
[10:07] <gdb> select to edit one
[10:07] <gdb> tab to Effects
[10:07] <gdb> and check Transparacy
[10:07] <gdb> Transparancy
[10:07] <oggy> 32bit ubuntu does not allow for audio on this machine
[10:07] <leros> the people in #beryl were unable to help me, so maybe guys can. When I start up Ubuntu, beryl-manager loads but Metacity is my default window manager. Is there a way I can make Beryl my default window manager?