[00:00] <ActionParsnip> Name141: i love lxde, i use it on all my systems with an x server
[00:00] <TwoToneSpirit> Dr_Willis: Well, I can imagine all the features to make it useful.  I'd love to build it myself but I don't even know where to begin.  I'm just starting to learn Python, which seems promising, but obviously not capable of a modification of the kernel / X server on the level I'm thinking.
[00:00] <mechtech> Bucky: thanks...thought I tried that...brb
[00:00] <LjL> uhm, i'm on Hardy, not using network manager but simply /etc/network/interface, with a card that gets identified as RT2500 (and driven by the wlan0 + wmaster0 combo0). i'm trying to make it connect to an ad-hoc network, but it'll refuse to set mode from interface. clues why?
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> sp0: it is mainly C afaik, with some machine code
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> TwoToneSpirit:  'crawl, walk, run' Plus i bet theres proberly allready something similer - but im vague on the details of what you want. :)
[00:00] <Name141> ActionParsnip: I'm not expecting much from it.  It works perfect, just slow due to age.  I was gonna keep it so my niece can do her homework with like openoffice and firefox.
[00:00] <jpds> s;
[00:00] <jpds> s;
[00:00] <bruce89> spO: Which one?
[00:01] <jpds> spO: No, the installer is written in Python.
[00:01] <Name141> Maybe load up her MP3 player if it's supported
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> Name141: if you want fast, install swiftfox or kazehakase
[00:01]  * bruce89 coughs * epiphany-webkit *
[00:01] <jpds> spO: There is an alternative installer CD, which uses the text based debian installer.
[00:02] <jpds> LjL: Oh hi!
[00:02] <Name141> ActionParsnip: I never heard of Swiftfox.. Is it like firefox just actually runs worth a (Blank) in linux
[00:02] <LjL> jpds: hi
[00:02] <Name141> FireFox failed to run as good as Windows on this system even
[00:02] <bruce89> Name141: it's just Fx with different compiler flags
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> Name141: yeah its slimmed down and responsive rather than bloated and slow
[00:02] <Joe_> anyone try the Nvidia 190.16 beta drivers yet?
[00:03] <syslq78> Gnome-config keybindings are not working for me in 9.04 anyone have the same porblem?
[00:03] <syslq78> problem
[00:03] <bucky> spO select the expert text based install option at the boot up menu on the install cd
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Name141: Galeon is nice as well
[00:03] <sebsebseb> !browsers |  Name141
[00:03] <Name141> sebsebseb: Never heard of that either.
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> Name141: theres firepup for 32bit too
[00:03] <deany> Is there still a problem with Suns Java on jaunty 64bit?
[00:03] <Armageddon> guys, i am trying to compile evolution, the newest release, and i tried apt-get build-dep and it didnt help, it asks for libraries i can't find over google any idea ? if you need the error ./configure please ask for it i'll paste it.
[00:03] <bruce89> athough the main problem with Fx is Gecko, which is used by Galeon also
[00:03] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: firepup sounds like one of those distros based on PuppyLinux ?
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> sebsebseb:  it is.
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> deany: I have a script to install native 64bit java if you want?
[00:04] <sebsebseb> bruce89: Galeon is still pretty good,  just  maybe webkit is more standards complaint these days
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: no its a cut down fast gecko based browser
[00:04] <erUSUL> deany: what problem ?
[00:04] <bruce89> Gecko is EOL
[00:04] <deany> ActionParsnip, nah, icedtea will do.. thought sun would have it sorted by now... geez
[00:04] <bruce89> oops
[00:04] <bruce89> Galeon is EOL
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> deany: it is, want the script
[00:04] <sebsebseb> don't think so
[00:04] <spO> windows desktop os and windows server os allow users to click on folders/directories and share them throughout one's own workgroup network, and users on other computers within that workgroup can easily mount those directories.... does ubuntu allow mounting across oses.... like can i mount networked directories on ubuntu from windows
[00:04] <bruce89> well, it's not developed any more
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> deany: http://pastebin.com/f1997c744
[00:05] <erUSUL> deany: the only thing i can think of is the lack of a firefox plugin... all the rest just work the same as in 32 bit
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> spO:  you can use samba and 'share' directories with windows - and back and forth.. yes.
[00:05] <jpds> !samba | spO
[00:05] <bucky> Armageddon: you need a ton of dev packages apt-get build-dep evolution
[00:05] <deany> so, he only needs it for FF plugin
[00:06] <deany> so might as well use icedtea
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> deany: that installs native 64bit sun java
[00:06] <deany> ok , thx
[00:06] <spO> windows also has remote desktop connection, so i can acccess a remote desktop from another windows desktop.... does ubuntu have something like this... ie , something more gui like and not just a shell account
[00:06] <bruce89> spO: VNC
[00:06] <th0r> how long are you guys going to feed this troll?
[00:06] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: why twe script? sudo aptitude install sun-java6-* is enough ;P
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> sp0: you can use rdesktop to connect to mstsc
[00:07] <sebsebseb> !vnc |  spO
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> spO:  or you can install 'xming' on windows, and ssh to the linux box. and run linux gui apps on the windows machine. :)
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: does that install 64bit java on 64bit systems, or does it install 32bit with nspluginwrapper?
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> sp0: its rare to need a full desktop
[00:07] <spO> so if i run rdesktop on my ubuntu box, then i can use remote desktop on my windows box and i can control a ubuntu desktop environemnt... IE, not just a shell
[00:08] <jpds> spO: Yes.
[00:08] <deany> well, for most people its useless without working FF plugin
[00:08] <yaris123456789> hi folks, my microphone works, but i cannot record. i made sure all the volumes were up.
[00:08] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: nspluginwrapper is only needed for the firefox plugin and java is much more than just that plugin...
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> spO:  thers several ways to get gui remote control of a linux machine. :) vnc is one,
[00:08] <bruce89> icedtea-plugin
[00:08] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: in 64 bit ubuntu there is no package for the java sun plugin afaik
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: all i know is that it works and gives awesmoe java performance
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: its a tar file at java.com
[00:09] <spO> can ubuntu play movie files that are on a ntfs ?
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> sp0: remote access can be a tonne more graceful than viewing the whole desktop, many apps have web interfaces which mipact the network less
[00:09] <spO> i guess so huh
[00:09] <Mike_lifeguard> I'm having issues downloading MIME digest emails via IMAP in Evolution. The digest itself gets downloaded, but the emails in it consist of only the headers. How can I force Evolution to download the whole email?
[00:09] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: ok fair enough
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> sp0: the kernel can read ntfs natively, it can write to ntfs (best effort) using ntfs-3g
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> spO:  yes they can play video files.. you can have full access to ntfs filesystems
[00:10] <Mike_lifeguard> Some of the MIME digest emails do get downloaded, seemingly at random, but most do not O__o
[00:11] <spO> too bad i cannot install ubuntu using just ntfs instead of whatever fs it uses
[00:11] <bruce89> yikes
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> sp0: ext3
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> sp0: you can resize ntfs to make room for ubuntu]
[00:11] <sebsebseb> spO: NTFS is  pretty bad compared to Linux file systems :)
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> !dualboot | sp0
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> spO:  err.. ext3/4 is better then ntfs in manyw ays. :) if you want to test ubuntu out. try it in 'virtualbox' on a windows machine
[00:11] <Evet> Amd Athlon64 X2 5600+ + 2gb DDR2 RAM + 800gb HDD = 49 euro monthly
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> Evet: peddle elsewhere, this is not the channel for it
[00:12] <yaris123456789> hi folks, my microphone works, but i cannot record. i made sure all the volumes were up. i am using Ubuntu 9.04
[00:12] <Lint01> Dr_Willis: they are not 'better'. They are just old.
[00:12] <Evet> Intel Core i7-920 Quadcore + 8gb DDR3 RAM + 1500gb HDD = 49 euro monthly + 149 euro setup fee
[00:12] <spO> windows 2k8 r2 has nice power schemes such as turning off my hard drives after 20 minutes
[00:12] <spO> and some kind of power control or handling of usb drives
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: ext3 was introduced november 2001
[00:13] <spO> i guess i changed my mind about using ubuntu
[00:13] <Evet> Which is better?
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> and here i thought ext4 was rather new. :)
[00:13] <Evet> ...
[00:13] <spO> unless ubuntu has some incredible usb external hard drive handling
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Evet: wrong channel
[00:13] <Lint01> ActionParsnip: just rehashing ext2 with ideas cloned from NTFS
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> spO:  my exteral usb drives do that reguardles of what OS im running on them.
[00:14] <sebsebseb> spO: Windows as host OS for many reasons is best to avoide :)  that however goes off topic, so I am not going to start going on about that here
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
[00:14] <scoates> hi. I'm trying to set up ircd-hybrid and whenever I set flags=ssl in a listen block, it seems to start up but not actually listen on any ports. any ideas? even a pointer to the right channel would be helpful.
[00:14] <sebsebseb> spO: A virtual machine of Windows inside another OS, well that can be useful
[00:14] <scoates>  Can't find useful logs, even.
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: its still 8 years old, which in computer terms is pretty old
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> spO:  i find my segate exteranl usb very smart about when to spindown/powerdown
[00:14] <spO> why has people built upon debian instead of slackware or something else
[00:15] <spO> why debian?
[00:15] <mechtech> why does this happen?: I will be reading man pages just fine, then when I'm done, I ctrl-Z, then ctrl-C, then type exit and my terminal says there are stopped jobs...what's up with that?
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> sp0: instead of askng in a channel, why dont you do a tonne of research online. The internet has far more knowledge than 1300 users in an irc channel
[00:15] <bruce89> sp0: Debian is nice
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> spO:  why slackware.. why ask why. :) it was decided to use debian as the base.
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> sp0: why not
[00:15] <deany> ActionParsnip, i`ll take that script then
[00:15] <zErOaCid> is there any good website on how to recompile kernel in jaunty ?
[00:15] <deany> ActionParsnip,  as long as it works with FF
[00:15] <th0r> mechtech: the control z is probably the issue....when you are done with a man page just type q for quit
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> deany: http://pastebin.com/f1997c744
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> deany: works fine
[00:15] <bucky> mechtech: because you're supposed to type 'q' for quit instead of trying to kill a process
[00:15] <mechtech> th0r: cool thanks
[00:16] <spO> is there a good torrent program for ubuntu?
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> spO:  theres a torrent client built in.
[00:16] <mechtech> bucky: thanks
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> !torrent | sp0
[00:16] <sebsebseb> spO: oh you know about other distros,   well in that case there may be some other distro that you will like more than Ubuntu,  however Ubuntu is pretty nice to start with
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> spO:  most common apps re allready built in.
[00:16] <Achilles`> Hey can anyone help me out with extracting a zip file to /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins ..... I get the error "Caution: filename not matched: /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins
[00:16] <MBD123> I need to download ia32-libs in order to install Adobe Air, but it says I can't due to amd64. Please help me
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> spO:  and most any app youve seen on other disrtos exist on ubuntu also.
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> MBD123:  odd.. i got adobe air installed here..   i forget how i did it..
[00:16] <Lint01> is it still the only way do defragment ext3/4 by recreating filesystem?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> Achilles`: unzup <zipfile> ; sudo mv ./<folder name> /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins
[00:17] <sebsebseb> !defrag |  Lint01
[00:17] <Forza4Life> can anyone help with setting up dual monitors in ati CCC
[00:17] <msds1502> GRUB Issue: I want to boot to windows xp which is (hd0,0) but it sends me to the windows boot loader instead? I also have a windows 7 partition located at (hd1,0) how do i boot straight into that OS and not that boot loader?
[00:17] <pinkey> my computer has been freezing up frequently as of late (requiring a full power-cycle to recover.)  In /var/log/messages, before the freeze it's always several hundred lines looking like this: "rt_ioctl_giwscan. 13(13) BSS returned, data->length = 1251", but I don't know what to do.
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: its not needed due to how ext3/4 are designed
[00:17] <mankash> /usr/include/bits/fcntl2.h:51: error: call to â__open_missing_modeâ declared with attribute error: open with O_CREAT in secon
[00:17] <mankash> make[4]: *** [collect2.o] Error 1
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: you can remove the journal and defrag ext2 but you wil gain nearly nothing
[00:18] <mankash> I am trying to build and getting this error /usr/include/bits/fcntl2.h:51: error: call to â__open_missing_modeâ declared with attribute error: open with O_CREAT in secon
[00:18] <mankash> make[4]: *** [collect2.o] Error 1
[00:18] <Forza4Life> CAN ANYONE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME?????
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Forza4Life
[00:18] <Forza4Life> well  i been asking
[00:18] <Forza4Life> no one has acknowledged me
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead | Forza4Life
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> Forza4Life:  you may want to check the forums for that specific card/ati wiki pages. I dont use ati any more.
[00:19] <bruce89> !repeat | Forza4Life
[00:19] <Achilles`> ActionParsnip: Thanks man... I've been banging my head against the wall for the past one hour
[00:19] <Forza4Life> can sopmeone help me get extended desktop working on an ati card
[00:19] <Lint01> all filesystems are fragmented in the same way. And yes, they all need defragmentation eventually
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> Achilles`: huh?
[00:19] <sebsebseb> Lint01: wrong
[00:19] <mkanat> If I've installed mod_perl via apt-get, is there some command that I need to run in order for it to be loaded in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ ?
[00:19] <spO> to install sabnzbd in ubuntu , you do not compile anything because it is written in python   ... in order for it to work you have to run a httpd server?
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: no, ext3 keeps the data of files either whole or extremely close
[00:20] <Achilles`> ActionParsnip: For the unzip/mv command
[00:20] <sebsebseb> Lint01: defraging  should be done to Microsoft file systems yes, but  other ones  it's not needed
[00:20] <Forza4Life> surely someone in here has set up dual monitors on an ati card
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Achilles`: np man
[00:20] <bruce89> sebsebseb: that's not strictly true
[00:20] <bruce89> see ext4defrag
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: defrag exists in windows as the file system and OS are very poor at populating the drive with data
[00:20] <spO> what do yuo guys think?
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> Lint01: ext3 is very efficient at storage of files
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> spO:  if its a python script.. it should work.
[00:21] <donaldo> hello
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> spO:  if it needs apache installed.. then install apache
[00:21] <jiohdi> can the make usb bootable utility in ubuntu be used for other iso's or just ubuntu/
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> sp0: python apps will run fine in ubuntu, won't need compiling
[00:21] <jiohdi> ?
[00:21] <donaldo> how to  enable subwoofer internal toshiba x205-s9800 laptop, realtek alc268??
[00:21] <sebsebseb> spO: Ubuntu uses quite a lot of Python in fact
[00:21] <donaldo> any idea?
[00:21] <donaldo> ples help me
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> jiohdi:  never tried.. but the unetbootin tool (in the repos) can work for many other disrtos as well as ubuntu
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> sp0: i think you need to research what linux is and what it can do
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> sp0: instead of asking in an irc channel
[00:22] <msds1502> GRUB Issue: I want to boot to windows xp which is (hd0,0) but it sends me to the windows boot loader instead? I also have a windows 7 partition located at (hd1,0) how do i boot straight into that OS and not that boot loader?
[00:22] <jiohdi> dr willis, does that work in linux or just windows?
[00:22] <Lint01> ok, so for example if I write 8GB file over 4 2GB free spaces, it would be 4 fragments on NTFS, but 1 fragment on ext3?
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> jiohdi:  its for both os's :) its in the repos
[00:22] <rz> anyone that can help with setting up a steam server?  I am just not able to establish a connection to the steam servers once I launch the server
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> !info unetbootin
[00:23] <jiohdi> dr. I am still a noob, I did not recognize repos until I hit enter
[00:23] <spO> whenever i tried to install xwin on freebsd or openbsd like 7 years ago, i would always have problems or usually have problems with getting the video card right or what not and also getting the mouse settings to work right.... With ubuntu it works out of the box,   does freebsd and other oses still have problems installing xwin?
[00:23] <sebsebseb> Lint01: try ##linux for your questions the general  Linux channal
[00:23] <spO> out of the box, ubuntu has xwins, rihgt?
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> jiohdi:  unetbootin can even download the iso files for many  disrtos.
[00:24] <sebsebseb> Lint01: uh wrong person
[00:24] <sebsebseb> spO: see above
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> spO:  7 years ago .. iw a loooooooooooooong time
[00:24] <spO> how come ubuntu can get the confirugation for video card and mouse right but others cannot
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> spO:  X auto configrues itself these days in most cases.
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> jiohdi: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-kubuntu-904-persistent-install-windows/#more-1582
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> spO:  if the others were using the latest X they would also.
[00:25] <sebsebseb> spO: opensource/freesoftware  tends to be very fast developing software, unlike commercial software, as a result  when talking about this software  and saying 7 years ago, that is a rather long time
[00:25] <jiohdi> thanks action... Just got the unet from add/remove :)
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> jiohdi: will show you how to use some tools + iso + usb or sd card to make a bootable usb or sdcard
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> 7 years ago is eons ago in comptuer time :)
[00:25] <spO> openbsd has security and encryption enhancements, does ubuntu have anything like this, like for instance can you use blowfish?
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> !encryption | spO
[00:25] <sebsebseb> spO: I suggest you ask your questions in ##linux  the general Linux channal
[00:25] <erUSUL> spO: use blowfish for what ?
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> erUSUL:  for lunch? :) with soy sauce?
[00:26] <jiohdi> action, I used unet to get my ubuntu from a flashdrive
[00:26] <jiohdi> but from xp
[00:26] <spO> to encrypt my CIA related files
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> sp0: all my hardware works great in all my linux system and i do not just use ubuntu
[00:26] <spO> what news reader do you guys use?
[00:26] <spO> xnews?
[00:26] <msds1502> GRUB Issue: I want to boot to windows xp which is (hd0,0) but it sends me to the windows boot loader instead? I also have a windows 7 partition located at (hd1,0) how do i boot straight into that OS and not that boot loader?
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> newsreaders - that is old skool. :)
[00:26] <jiohdi> but I tried to put mint on my computer instead using the ubuntu usb boot maker and it failed
[00:26] <spO> oh wait, do you guys use alt. bin or whatever?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> sp0: you can encrypt your home if you wear a tinfoil hat
[00:26] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: rotfl
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> spO:  i used pan ages ago.
[00:27] <spO> hmm
[00:27] <jiohdi> desktopbsd always said the kernel was corrupted on the usb
[00:27] <sebsebseb> spO: this channel is good for  Ubuntu specific stuff,  and  Linux stuff that isn't  is  better off in the other channal
[00:27] <spO> i guess you can use newsbins and sabnzbd
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> msds1502:  for my machine.. i can hit a key at the POST screen and select what hd to boot.  that lets me boot windows on the 2nd hard drive without needing grub at all.
[00:27] <Lint01> msds1502: how are you gonna boot XP without boot loader?
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> sp0: can you access the google website from at least one computer?
[00:27] <spO> seb, i was talking about what news reader to use with ubuntu
[00:27] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: heh what  so he can start researching?
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> spO:  you can go to #puppylinux also and ask general questions.. we love it in there.
[00:28] <jiohdi> so it seemed that the ubuntu usb bootable was not working for other iso;s which is why I asked
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> spO:  use whatever newsreader has the features you want.
[00:28] <spO> i want to use newsleecher in ubuntu
[00:28] <spO> how do i do that
[00:28] <spO> do you guys use wine or something?
[00:28] <spO> dioes that work well?
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> spO:  no idea.. install it.. run it..  never heard of it.
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> spO:  wine works.  check the wine appdatabase for specific apps and issues with them
[00:29] <msds1502> Lint01: right now my GRUB lists: Ubuntu and then Windows Boot loader.  The boot loader is on (hd0,0). windows bootloader has my Win 7 and WinXP options on it.  I want Ubuntu, WinXP and Win7 all on my GRUB menu.
[00:29] <spO> i woulkd like to put together a package whereas i can run windows 7 ontop of ubuntu
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> spO:  that would be 'virtualbox' to allow that. :)
[00:29] <spO> dr_willis, virualbox is like wine, huh?
[00:29] <mob> @ all good day ;]
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> sp0: it gets a good review under wine
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> spO:  nope.. its a virtual machine..  check its homepage.
[00:29] <LjL> spO: not really... wine simulates windows, virtualbox simulates a computer
[00:30] <jiohdi> can something complicated like corel paint be installed under wine... I tried and it always failed
[00:30] <spO> i bet virual box uses a lot of hard drive space
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> sp0: no wine is an abstraction layer, virtuualbox will involve a full blown windows install and will require a windows licence
[00:30] <jet_> i just got an mp3 player that has software on it and whatnot is it safe to format?
[00:30] <jet_> cheap coby one
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> spO:  it uses what you tell it to use..  windows 7 will use more drive space then   anything else you got installed.
[00:30] <spO> can i start ubuntu in console mode everytime i reboot?
[00:30] <mob> which # is dealing with karmic?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> sp0: why dont you find out how much it needs
[00:30] <sebsebseb> !karmic | mob
[00:30] <LjL> mob: #ubuntu+1
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> spO:  yes you can.
[00:31] <spO> dr_willis, how?
[00:31] <mob> ty
[00:31] <sebsebseb> np
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> spO:  disabel the gdm service = no X login manager screen then.. just the console.
[00:31] <laymansnerd> hey room.....wondering what steps i need to take to connect my ubuntu machines to my windows 7 printer
[00:31] <spO> but what if i want to load Xwin after i use the console for a while?
[00:32] <spO> layman, samba?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> sp0: you run  startx
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> spO:  then you start X.  logical eh?
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> spO:  like you are really going to 'stay in the console' much. :)
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> sp0: can you see the flexibilty that linux offers over windows rigid no-functionality
[00:33] <stuntz> anyone any ideas on how to run compiz in backtrack 4?
[00:33] <spO> there should be something to access X login remotely, kind of like windows' remote desktop, don't you think?
[00:33] <laymansnerd> tried....can't connect to that machine
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> stuntz:  backtrack4 is NOT ubuntu based. it has its own support channel.
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> sp0: no, its rarely needed
[00:33] <laymansnerd> workgroup name is the same and same case
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> spO:  theres at least 3 ways to do that..
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> spO:  vnc is one way
[00:33] <outy> how can i make a shortcunt to nautilus ?
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> outy: i know in terminal
[00:34] <Guest10761> Why does it do this? http://pastebin.com/m363a66dd
[00:34] <jiohdi> outy, with pubic hairs
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> outy:  make a icon on the desktop that launches nautilus
[00:34]  * Dr_Willis wonders why the backtrack4 users all seem to want to come to #ubuntu
[00:34] <Kalisto> Anyone know why in the Main Menu Gnome editor i cannot delete entries. the button it not greyed out but it nothing happens when i click it?
[00:34] <deany> ActionParsnip, sudo wget  http://www.java.net/download/jdk6/6u12/promoted/b03/binaries/jre-6u12-ea-bin-b03-linux-amd64-22_dec_2008.bin ? thats old isnt it lol
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: no idea
[00:34] <bucky> outy: drag the icon from the Applications menu to the desktop
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  i wonder if their irc client is misconfigured.
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> deany: update it if you want
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: sounds like misconfigured user
[00:35] <ShawnC> Why does it do this? http://pastebin.com/m363a66dd
[00:35] <TiM1> today after a hard work, i steup my sound card, but not completely, it was wrong recognized, does anybody know how to change it?
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  from what i read of backtrack4 most users in here asking about it.. really should not be  using it.. :P
[00:35] <spO> dr_willis, what are the other two?
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> ShawnC: if yuo run: gksudo gedit /etc/hosts  does dyllan-desktop resolve to <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:36] <deany> ActionParsnip, what version?
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> spO:  X forwarding via xdmcp , and ssh X forwarding.. if that means anything to you.
[00:36] <glitchd> so my laptop speakers just quit working but the headphones still give sound...??????
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> deany: 1.6.0
[00:36] <glitchd> got 9.04
[00:37] <Armageddon> I'm having this error when trying to uninstall Evolution, any ideas ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/235523/
[00:37] <glitchd> on a acer
[00:37] <deany> ActionParsnip, what file version
[00:37] <user__> can ubuntu read xps files by default?
[00:37] <deany> I cant see one
[00:37] <ericG> outy: press alt+f2 and type gconf-editor, then expand apps,  nautilus, then click desktop. check the box beside home_icon_visible
[00:37] <bruce89> user__: no
[00:37] <ShawnC> ActionParsnip: yes it does.
[00:37] <laymansnerd> any tips?
[00:37] <deany> linux-amd64-what?
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> ShawnC: and in hostname is it dyllan-desktop  too?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> deany: what file version of what?
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> outy:  theres also a 'unsupported/unofficial' tool called 'ubuntu tweak' that lets you easially change those kind of settings.
[00:38] <mowsmek> hey guys
[00:38] <spO> why do you guys like ubuntu more than freebsd?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> sp0: i dont like it more, i like it equally
[00:38] <deany> ActionParsnip, java6 bin?
[00:38] <mowsmek> anyone really good regarding external usb storage issues?
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> spO:  because ubuntu is linux.. and freebsd is bsd.
[00:38] <ShawnC> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/m2221ab64
[00:38] <glitchd> Who can help me with sound issues in 9.04??
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> deany: firefox says 1.6.0
[00:38] <Armageddon> spO: everything has its own use and purpose
[00:38] <jawee> sp0: better hardware support, better prebuilt system
[00:38] <bucky> spO the ubuntu mascot is much cooler than the FreeBSD one
[00:39] <Armageddon> I'm having this error when trying to uninstall Evolution, any ideas ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/235523/
[00:39] <jawee> sp0: FreebSD systsm is harder to use OTB, requires more setup
[00:39] <albdum> any1 knows how can i format a drive to ntfs with shell commands ?
[00:39] <mowsmek> guys is ubuntu 9.04 better then linuxmint?
[00:39] <bruce89> !better
[00:39] <sebsebseb> bucky: uhmm you mean Tux?  which  is the mascot for Linux not Ubuntu
[00:39] <albdum> is it possible to be done with fdisk ?
[00:39] <ShawnC> ActionParsnip: any thoughts?
[00:39] <sebsebseb> bucky: Tux the Linux penguin
[00:39] <laymansnerd> if you want everything pre installed linux is the way to go
[00:39] <msds1502> how do you resume after suspending ubuntu?
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> ShawnC: your /etc/hosts is broken, it says <IP_ADDRESS> rather than <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:39] <jiohdi> mowsmek, an IT guy told me that mint is superior to ubuntu, but I could not get mint to work right
[00:39] <laymansnerd> but you won't get the latest kernel
[00:39] <ShawnC> ah
[00:39] <fission61> can someone recommend a good font/size, i hate my current font, esp for terminal takes up to muhc space
[00:40] <ShawnC> should i nano /etc/hosts
[00:40] <ShawnC> ??
[00:40] <user__> are there any easy ways to add xps viewing abilitys to ubuntu?
[00:40] <laymansnerd> it only updates the kernel periodically
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> ShawnC: you'll need sudo for that
[00:40] <donnybrasco> hello - I have ubuntu jaunty installed on my laptop and it's running great; BUT I just used gparted to remove all other partitions from my HD (windows and hardy heron).  Now I am getting an error with my grub when I boot - can anyone help me with this?
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> fission61:  set the size how you like.. and try various fonts..  its all a personal taste thing.
[00:40] <bucky> sebsebseb: isn't tux cooler than the devil?
[00:40] <jiohdi> mowsmek, I dont know what went wrong, but everytime I rebooted, I had to repair packages
[00:40] <bruce89> user__: I don't think there is
[00:40] <Tr1n> msds1502:  if it helps suspend never worked for me until I installed the correct video drivers
[00:40] <jiohdi> so I dumped it and went back to ubuntu
[00:40] <ShawnC> ActionParsnip, am i not able to sudo?
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> fission61:  my wife sets the fonts where they are liek an Inch tall. :)
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> laymansnerd: you dont need a new kernel if all hardware is working ok
[00:40] <albdum> Hello any1 might know how can i format a drive to ntfs using shell ?
[00:40] <fission61> hmm well i am looking for a good terminal setting
[00:40] <laymansnerd> this is true
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> ShawnC: yes, you will NEED to sudo to get write access
[00:40] <usr229> help again... i have this line "wine CFFiles.exe /e <a_file>" wich runs without problems on my console... but when i try to to do it with a nautilus script: "wine CFFiles.exe /e $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS", it doesn't work.... i tried this in the same script "gedit $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS" and it works, so what is the problem??
[00:40] <msds1502> donnybrasco: are you using multiple hard drives?
[00:41] <ShawnC> i know ActionParsnip
[00:41] <spO> bsd is not much different than linux
[00:41] <ShawnC> i don';t see where the <IP_ADDRESS> is though?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> ShawnC: top of the file reads: <IP_ADDRESS>        localhost
[00:41] <bruce89> user__:http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321868
[00:41] <jiohdi> sp0 bsd is more unix based right?
[00:41] <bucky> spO that's because linux is a unix clone
[00:41] <chauncellor> donnybrasco, there's a command to autoconfig grub, but I can't remember
[00:41] <donnybrasco> msds: no ... well, I have an external hd with everything I wanted backed up on it, but just the one on my laptop
[00:41] <TiM1> i'm having problem with soundcards
[00:41] <ShawnC> oh
[00:41] <donnybrasco> msds: oh - hey, I think it was you that helped me earlier
[00:41] <ShawnC> that was a pasting mistake
[00:41] <chauncellor> donnybrasco, it's something like "sudo grub-autoconfigure", but I don't think that's it
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> sp0: bsd is hugely different to linux
[00:42] <ShawnC> it's accually <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:42] <Spykemcc> hi Arch linux vs Ubuntu what is the best ?
[00:42] <bucky> Spykemcc: Arch
[00:42] <Armageddon> Guys, can anyone help with Evolution ?
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> ShawnC: you will want to delete the '.Auto' from the hosts file for your host name
[00:42] <albdum> Hello any1 might know how can i format a drive to ntfs using shell ?
[00:42] <msds1502> donnybrasco: was the external hooked up when you installed Ubuntu?
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> Spykemcc:  use what ever one you like.. and i dumped arch a few months ago and went back to Ubuntu.
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> Spykemcc: neither is best, nor worst
[00:42] <sebsebseb> !ot | spO
[00:42] <donnybrasco> msds: yeah - it's been hooked up the entire time - I didn't touch it with gparted though
[00:42] <Spykemcc> ok
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> albdum: apt-cache search ntfs | grep tool
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> Spykemcc:  differnt design 'goals'  go read the arch docs to learn their design criteria/demands/goals.. thats the 'ARCH' way
[00:43] <bucky> albdum: is it dual boot.. it's better to use windows to format it if you want to access it from both
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Spykemcc: which is better, coke or pepsi?
[00:43] <chauncellor> What's better, Sega or Nintendo?
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Spykemcc: highlights how meaningless the whole "best" nonesense is
[00:43] <chauncellor> (remember that one?)
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  my wife will not touch coke its pepsi or nothing  for her. :)
[00:43] <bucky> Spykemcc: and Gentoo is better than Arch
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: exactly
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> we all know that  Tiny Core Linux is the best.. anyway :P
[00:44] <msds1502> coke and pepsi are like dicks and vaginas... i strongly prefer one but my friend says they taste the same
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> bucky: i'd agree but I can name people who disagree
[00:44] <donnybrasco> msds: I'm currently booted up on the live cd and I have full access to my jaunty filesystem in the file browser
[00:44] <usr229> VCoolio: help again... i have this line "wine CFFiles.exe /e <a_file>" wich runs without problems on my console... but when i try to to do it with a nautilus script: "wine CFFiles.exe /e $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS", it doesn't work.... i tried this in the same script "gedit $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS" and it works, so what is the problem??
[00:44] <albdum> i must format it from ubuntu server... :( but i need the format to be ntfs
[00:44] <usr229> ActionParsnip: help... i have this line "wine CFFiles.exe /e <a_file>" wich runs without problems on my console... but when i try to to do it with a nautilus script: "wine CFFiles.exe /e $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS", it doesn't work.... i tried this in the same script "gedit $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS" and it works, so what is the problem??
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> Spykemcc: basically, its a moot question
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> usr229: no idea
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> usr229: why did you ask me?
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> albdum:  mkfs.ntfs  can do that...
[00:44] <mikexstudios> Is there a way to have 'make' automatically run when certain files are changed?
[00:45] <bucky> Spykemcc: if you want five different answers from 1500 people in an irc channel then use ubuntu
[00:45] <ShawnC> huh ActionParsnip?
[00:45] <usr229> ActionParsnip: random selection
[00:45] <uknow> can some on help me with chatzilla
[00:45] <albdum> Dr_Willis : thnx m8 any additional packages required?
[00:45] <uknow> i want to join a diffrent network
[00:45] <msds1502> donnybrasco: Try using SuperGrubDisk to restore GRUB.  there are a couple options here too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#Backup,%20Repairing%20and%20Reinstalling%20GRUB
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> mikexstudios:  that is not making a lot of sence.. you want somthign to auto-recompile?
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> albdum:  proberly   but no idea what.
[00:45] <mikexstudios> Dr_Willis: Yes
[00:45] <bruce89> mikexstudios: what are you trying to do?
[00:45] <usr229> msds1502: help... i have this line "wine CFFiles.exe /e <a_file>" wich runs without problems on my console... but when i try to to do it with a nautilus script: "wine CFFiles.exe /e $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS", it doesn't work.... i tried this in the same script "gedit $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS" and it works, so what is the problem??
[00:45] <vIkSiT> hi all
[00:45] <deany> ActionParsnip, why doesnt FF work with it then if that script is only copying over the file to FF plugins folder?
[00:45] <albdum> ok THnx
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> ShawnC: instead of          dyllan-desktop.Auto linksys (default)             have it say           dyllan-desktop     on its own
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> mikexstudios:  there are some various  'file watcher' tools that can do actions when somthing changes.. but ive never used them
[00:46] <deany> ActionParsnip, whats the sun-java6-plugin all about?
[00:46] <vIkSiT> I'm stuck with a problem, doing a simple apt-get upgrade from 8.10 - put me on a 9.04 version.
[00:46] <donnybrasco> msds: thanks, checking that out now
[00:46] <mikexstudios> bruce89: I'm doing some GUI work that requires a lot of pixel placement stuff. So I'm tired to running 'make' each time I change some parameters in source.
[00:46] <vIkSiT> It also changed my sources list
[00:46] <vIkSiT> and I'm trying to figure out how to proceed.
[00:46] <mikexstudios> Dr_Willis: Thanks, I'll look into them.
[00:46] <vIkSiT> Should I do a dist-upgrade,or a do-release-upgrade?
[00:46] <ShawnC> ok
[00:46] <Harryy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7694665 <-- help me with my ssh problem please :)
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> deany: afaik, its a 32bit version. the 64bit script works great for me
[00:46] <deany> this is goin great.. gettin a mate over to ubuntu and he`s having hurdles from start
[00:46] <deany> ugh
[00:46] <bruce89> mikexstudios: the whole point of makefiles is to recompile files when they are changed
[00:47] <msds1502> usr229: i have no idea on how to help
[00:47] <deany> ActionParsnip,  why isnt it getting a 64bit version from repo tho?
[00:47] <mikexstudios> bruce89: Yes, but I want it to do that automatically once the files are changed without me typing 'make'.
[00:47] <VCoolio> usr229: don't know actually, maybe has to do with wine or the / character, try to put \ before that so it looks like \/
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> deany: it gets the file from the java website afaik
[00:47] <msds1502> donnybrasco: I gave you the wrong link.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows should work better
[00:47] <bruce89> mikexstudios: I don't think there's such a thing
[00:47] <vIkSiT> hmm, ideas anyone?
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> deany, it downloads: http://www.java.net/download/jdk6/6u12/promoted/b03/binaries/jre-6u12-ea-bin-b03-linux-amd64-22_dec_2008.bin
[00:48] <donnybrasco> msds: ok
[00:48] <DougM> what is the command line to uninstall wine in terminal
[00:49] <deany> ActionParsnip, I know, but its old
[00:49] <th0r> DougM: apt-get remove wine?
[00:49] <deany> ActionParsnip, i`m tryin to find the link to the newest file, to replace in script
[00:49] <vIkSiT> hmm, so does a apt-get upgrade actually change souces.list?
[00:49] <vIkSiT> I always thought it wouldnt?
[00:50] <deany> i knew I`d get the "all this for java its 2 clicks in windows" speech
[00:50] <Flannel> vIkSiT: No.  It just updates the packages that are installed to the latest versions.
[00:50] <DougM> th0r: thanks.. sorry im really new to linux
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> deany: if you do, please let me know and i'll update my own
[00:50] <Armageddon> I'm having this error when trying to remove Evolution, any ideas ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/235523/
[00:50] <vIkSiT> Flannel, indeed. so what command would end up changing the sources.list?
[00:50] <Tr1n> vIkSiT:  Surely it has to take into account the repositories of your new version?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> DougM: sudo apt-get --purge remove wine; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[00:50] <Flannel> vIkSiT: No commands do.  Well, update-manager does.
[00:50] <vIkSiT> Im running a server only - no X, so I guess that wouldn't matter
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> DougM: if you also delete ~/.wine
[00:50] <Flannel> vIkSiT: Are you trying to upgrade a version of Ubuntu?
[00:51] <th0r> ActionParsnip: you must REALLY want to get rid of wine!
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> DougM: then it will also remove the old config
[00:51] <vIkSiT> Tr1n, oh you mean that even an upgrade would replace the repo URLs with the latest packages .. even if the version remains the same?
[00:51] <vIkSiT> Flannel, I'm trying not to. Let me explain..
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> th0r: just gets rid of the old configs
[00:51] <vIkSiT> I was trying to install a package for python, which installed 2.6 as well as 2.5 for me.
[00:51] <vIkSiT> Now, trying to install python-profiler gives me an error message:
[00:52] <vIkSiT> python-profiler: Depends: python (< 2.6) but 2.6.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[00:52] <ShawnC> ActionParsnip I can't sudo to nano the file...
[00:52] <vIkSiT> Flannel, Tr1n - so I'm confused about what I should do here.
[00:52] <vIkSiT> I already ahve python 2.6 installed - but seem to be stuck in some dependnecy problem
[00:52] <TiM1> firefox crashing with flash
[00:52] <Tr1n> vIkSiT:  I think you may be confusing apt-get update, which updates the packages in the repo, and apt-get upgrade which upgrades your OS
[00:53] <Flannel> vIkSiT: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> ShawnC: sudo nano /etc/hosts
[00:53] <vIkSiT> Tr1n, well, I know the difference - I used update, and then upgrade.
[00:53] <ShawnC> i did that
[00:53] <ShawnC> it doesn't work say's can't resolve dyllan-desktop
[00:53] <ShawnC> ActionParsnip ^
[00:53] <vIkSiT> Flannel, I _was_ on hardy - but now I seem to be on jaunty.
[00:53] <vIkSiT> how would I check?
[00:53] <Flannel> !hostname | ShawnC
[00:53] <Flannel> vIkSiT: lsb_release -a
[00:53] <vIkSiT> sigh, ok - its Jaunty
[00:54] <Flannel> vIkSiT: also, pastebin your sources.list (and anyting in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[00:54] <vIkSiT> so somehow, I got upgraded without wanting to.
[00:54] <JohnTeddy> I am trying to add a Canon MP620 printer to Ubuntu, it is on the network as <IP_ADDRESS>. I don't see this printer listed in Ubuntu anywhere, how can I add it?
[00:54] <vIkSiT> doing.
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> ShawnC: then yu will need to boot to livecd to change the file, you have screwed to hostname resolve to localhost so you will get issues
[00:54] <Tr1n> vIkSiT: http://www.aboutdebian.com/packages.htm may help you understand
[00:54] <vIkSiT> Tr1n, checking that.
[00:55] <vIkSiT> Flannel, http://pastebin.com/de927e49
[00:55] <th0r> JohnTeddy: I think you can add it via cups...open a browser to localhost:631
[00:55] <vIkSiT> Tr1n, ah yes, I already know how to use them. My impression alwasy was that - update - updates package server repo lists, and upgrae downloads and installs the new, updated packages.
[00:55] <twas> How do I instruct a script to run a job as another user?
[00:55] <twas> I want a startup script to run a program as some user
[00:56] <vIkSiT> my hunch is that now I'm stuck in limbo between 8.10 and 9.04
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> twas:   the 'su' command i think can do that.  some how.
[00:56] <Relaed> Hello, I got "relay access denied" when trying to send mail from localhost with postfix, why ?
[00:56] <outy> hey my desktop background is kinda seethrough so that i can see the other sides of the cube, how do i stop that ?
[00:56] <Flannel> vIkSiT: Did you modify your sources.list by hand? or how were you trying to install python 2.6?
[00:56] <pinkey> my computer has been freezing up frequently as of late (requiring a full power-cycle to recover.)  In /var/log/messages, before the freeze it's always several hundred lines looking like this: "rt_ioctl_giwscan. 13(13) BSS returned, data->length = 1251", but I don't know what to do.
[00:56] <vIkSiT> Flannel, no modifications at all.
[00:56] <vIkSiT> Flannel, apt-get install python
[00:56] <vIkSiT> thats it.
[00:57] <vIkSiT> I dont actually know how to install using apt any other way..
[00:57] <spO> i can telnet to an ubuntu box using a blackberry or palm os pda?
[00:57] <Flannel> vIkSiT: well, python should've already been installed.
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> sp0: ssh is better
[00:57] <pinkey> When a machine freezes, how does one debug it?
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> sp0: telnet is unencrypted
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> pinkey: connect via ssh and run dmesg
[00:57] <vIkSiT> Flannel, yes. what happened was - I had py2.5 - and wantd to install a different version of apache (mpm worker) - which had some dependencies. It didn't work for me, so I removed it and installed the original apache.
[00:58] <Armageddon> ok now i am having a huge problem, gnome is not launching :)
[00:58] <rz_> how do i display folders that require sudo permissions from File Browser
[00:58] <vIkSiT> now this had some dependency, since i had run apt-get update before.
[00:58] <JohnTeddy> th0r: ipp or http?
[00:58] <vIkSiT> and it went and installed 2.6
[00:58] <vIkSiT> (and ubuntu/dev allow both to co exist)
[00:58] <vIkSiT> deb*
[00:58] <th0r> JohnTeddy: http://localhost:631
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> so far every question spO  has asked  about linux fetures have been a 'yes' :)
[00:58] <JohnTeddy> th0r: no I know, my canon printer, is it http or ipp?
[00:58] <Flannel> vIkSiT: ah!  Ok.  I see your problem.  You have hardy multiverse enabled (lines 26-29 on that paste) change those to jaunty, and youre dependency problems will go away.
[00:58] <JohnTeddy> th0r: for canon device type
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> rz_: if you run: ls -l *
[00:59] <vIkSiT> woo.
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> rz_: any files that are not yours or
[00:59] <vIkSiT> Flannel, once I remove those - what next?an update? upgrade?
[00:59] <th0r> JohnTeddy: not sure...haven't had a printer in years so don't mess with them
[00:59] <vIkSiT> or nothing at all?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> rz_: give access to you by group will require sudo
[00:59] <MRZxSpectrum> Astew: Have you no shame ?
[00:59] <MRZxSpectrum> Leave now
[00:59] <Mike_lifeguard> Evolution isn't downloading MIME digests properly (via IMAP) - how can I force it to get the whole message instead of just the headers?
[00:59] <Armageddon> i tried to compile evolution manually, compiled some new version of the libraries it needed, than it didnt compile so i had to download the .deb file for the latest evolution, tried to install dpkg which gave me an error, so i tried to remove evolution which also game me an error, so i restarted and gnome is not starting again ! i am using the shell to connect, can anyone help ?
[01:00] <th0r> JohnTeddy: this might help....http://www.cups.org/documentation.php/network.html
[01:00] <Flannel> vIkSiT: Change, don't remove.  And then update/dist-upgrade
[01:00] <selig5>  /quit
[01:00] <vIkSiT> Flannel, ah so I replace hardy with jaunty?
[01:01] <bruce89> Armageddon: incidentally, why are you?
[01:01] <MRZxSpectrum> Piss off Stew... im angry at you atm
[01:01] <vIkSiT> and then do update/dist-upgrade.
[01:01] <Armageddon> bruce89: why ?
[01:01] <Flannel> vIkSiT: yeah
[01:01] <bruce89> Armageddon: actually, never mind
[01:01] <Flannel> vIkSiT: well, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:01] <Armageddon> bruce89: what is that question ?
[01:01] <LjL> MRZxSpectrum: language and attitude, would you mind? :(
[01:01] <vIkSiT> gotcha
[01:01] <vIkSiT> let me try that, thanks
[01:02] <bruce89> Armageddon: I just wondered what you're compiling Evolution for
[01:02] <Armageddon> bruce89: my version was not stable, and it used to crash and it was very old, why do you compile a newer version for ?
[01:02] <stew> MRZxSpectrum: hi, I think you've found the wrong channel.  this channel is for end-user support of ubuntu only.  I understand that you are upset, plesae confine you messages to my PM window.
[01:02] <vIkSiT> Flannel, while it happens - what do you think let to the sources getting replaed by jaunty? I deally, I wanted to stick wit hardy, not jaunty!
[01:03] <bruce89> Armageddon: I knew I shouldn't have asked
[01:03] <Flannel> vIkSiT: I have no idea.  You really shouldn't upgrade from Hardy to jaunty anyway, need to go through intrepid.
[01:03] <Armageddon> bruce89: i know, it would be apreciated if you tried to help instead
[01:03] <rz_> so is it better to run a server with my user credentials or sudo
[01:03] <Flannel> vIkSiT: Something else you did made that change.
[01:03] <vIkSiT> Flannel, precisely! I didn't want to do that in the first place
[01:03] <vIkSiT> Flannel, so - what could lead to this?
[01:03] <vIkSiT> Im pretty sure I didnt a) modify source lists, b)run dist-upgrade, c)do-release-upgrade
[01:04] <bruce89> Armageddon: you can't install random newer debian packages
[01:04] <Armageddon> bruce89: i wasn't installing debian packages
[01:04] <Flannel> vIkSiT: sed command? I know that's a popular (albeit poor technical choice) method in copy/paste situations.
[01:04] <vIkSiT> nope.
[01:04] <bruce89> Armageddon: .deb = debian packages
[01:04] <vIkSiT> my main point is - i was just trying to upgrade some packages - not the distribution :)
[01:05] <Armageddon> bruce89: downloaded from the ubuntu website that's 1 and 2 i said it didnt install cause i needed to remove the old one :)
[01:05] <vIkSiT> still dont get how it went to jaunty straight away..
[01:05] <Flannel> vIkSiT: right.  And nothing with apt-get would've modified that.  So, I have no idea what the issue is.
[01:05] <Flannel> vIkSiT: well, if your sources.list gets changed, it'll do the move.  Some things just might not be happy about it.
[01:05] <bruce89> Armageddon: ah, so it didn't remove for some reason
[01:05] <Armageddon> bruce89: yup !
[01:05] <vIkSiT> Flannel, oh well. so I guess damage control - do you think running 9.04 as a server is good enough (and at some point, update to the next LTS in 2010?)
[01:06] <Flannel> vIkSiT: It's not a supported upgrade path, but there's nothing in the code blocking it.
[01:06] <Armageddon> bruce89: i updated GTK+ and glib from source
[01:06] <bruce89> that's bound to cause trouble
[01:06] <Armageddon> bruce89: now how do i fix it ? :D
[01:06] <mistergibson> anyone know of a package to do smtp --> webmail ?
[01:06] <bruce89> Armageddon: I hope you still have the source?
[01:06] <Flannel> vIkSiT: I'd say at this point, you'll probably be fine. And yeah, get on the next LTS.
[01:06] <Armageddon> bruce89: nope i don't
[01:06] <bruce89> ah
[01:07] <bruce89> without the source, you can't remove it
[01:07] <xcv> i installed a lightweight httpd (or maybe ftpd?) within the last few months and ran it once. i'd like to run it again, but can't find it on the volume. any ideas about where to look for logs, or where on the volume?
[01:07] <Armageddon> bruce89: damn, there is no way to do so ?
[01:07] <Flannel> vIkSiT: Just for yucks, what does /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades contain? Prompt=what?
[01:07] <stryker> how can I verify the amount of video memory of my graphics card?
[01:08] <bruce89> Armageddon: not without manually removing the files from /usr/local (assuming you didn't change PREFIX)
[01:08] <vIkSiT> Flannel, normal
[01:08] <donnybrasco> msds: I think it worked ... going to reboot and see - thanks for your help
[01:08] <Armageddon> bruce89: i didn't change any prefixes
[01:08] <vIkSiT> should I change it LTS perhaps?
[01:08] <mistergibson> stryker: I think 'lspci -vv' will give you the greedy details
[01:08] <stryker> mistergibson: thnx
[01:09] <bruce89> Armageddon: I think you'll need to remove the relevant files from /usr/local manually; but what was the error on removing evolution?
[01:09] <stryker> mistergibson: it sure did give me a lot of info :P
[01:09] <Armageddon> bruce89: how can i copy in the shell ?
[01:09] <xcv> i installed a lightweight httpd (or maybe ftpd?) within the last few months and ran it once. i'd like to run it again, but can't find it on the volume. any ideas about where to look for logs, or where on the volume? of course there's no app icon for it and i don't recall the name of the server app. doh!
[01:09] <Armageddon> bruce89: i think its gconf ! i updated that too
[01:09] <mistergibson> stryker: yup --> look for Region0 or Region1 for the bulk of the mem space
[01:10] <bruce89> Armageddon: oh
[01:10] <bruce89> Armageddon: simply, you'll need to just wipe /usr/local
[01:10] <bruce89> that might cause issues though
[01:10] <Armageddon> bruce89: can i downgrade to the ones on the server ?
[01:10] <bruce89> the ones installed in /usr will take over automatically
[01:11] <Armageddon> bruce89: ok lemme see what i can do
[01:11] <myk_robinson> any Tuxguitar users on here? I just installed it from the repositories, and I cannot get any sound when playing a Guitar Pro 4 tab file. Any ideas?
[01:11] <mistergibson> smtp --> webmail : anyone got any ideas?
[01:11] <stryker> mistergibson: Region 0: Memory at c0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
[01:11] <stryker>  so its 256 right?
[01:11] <mistergibson> right, there ya go
[01:11] <bruce89> Armageddon: if you want to compile new versions of GNOME stuff, you should use GARGNOME or jhbuild
[01:11] <stryker> mistergibson: thanks a lot! .. jee i thought i had more jaja :P
[01:12] <mistergibson> hehe, np
[01:12] <MadEchidna> hey could someone tell me how to reset all network settings to default
[01:12] <MadEchidna> openvpn screwed something up and now I can't anything except for a basic web browser
[01:12] <MadEchidna> no irc or IM
[01:12] <mistergibson> anyone have a tasty url on the optimal way to do bridging on jaunty?
[01:13] <a_clever_name> how do i install kde as my primary windows manager ?
[01:13] <ShawnC> is openssh udp or tcp?
[01:13] <Armageddon> bruce89: meaning ? besides can you please query me cause in the shell this looks really bad and i can't follow !
[01:13] <mistergibson> a_clever_name: you could set your 'session' under kdm, gdm
[01:13] <a_clever_name> mistergibson, do i have to instll anything?
[01:14] <mistergibson> dunno - got a couple o questions
[01:14] <a_clever_name> thanks
[01:14] <mistergibson> want to switch to kde from something else?
[01:14] <th0r> I have been using firestarter and it works fine. But is there a way to have it automatically start at bootup without prompting for the password?
[01:14] <fission61> do you guys use gnome terminal or something else
[01:14] <a_clever_name> no  i want to switch form GNOME to kde
[01:15] <kandinski> I am installing some ruby gems on ubuntu 9.04, but they don't get installed in my $PATH.  I can't find it anymore
[01:17] <TiM1> opera without flash..
[01:17] <mistergibson> anyone noticed FF being a nasty cpu & mem pig these days?    Holy-F***!
[01:21] <donnybrasco> hello - I am running jaunty and have just removed my windows and ubuntu 8.10 partitions using gparted; everything seems to be working fine (after a few hiccoughs).  I am now about to edit my grub menu to remove the old operating systems from it.  My question is: should I remove all entries except "title		Ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-13-generic" and title		Ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-13-generic (recovery mode)"?
[01:22] <xybre> Okay
[01:22] <jiohdi> can you run kde stuff without installing the kde desktop?
[01:22] <a_clever_name> vote now should i do it
[01:22] <xybre> I have a production server running ubuntu, and I want to update it (looks like its been a while) but I want to be able to roll back if it causes problems.
[01:22] <xybre> Is there a sane way of doing this?
[01:23] <jiohdi> hard disk clone?
[01:23] <aboyz> can someon tell me what is a Mitigators?
[01:23] <a_clever_name> xybre,  get a mac
[01:23] <xybre> I don't have physical access to the box.
[01:23] <xybre> ..
[01:24] <Zxcvb> I tried installing the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel package from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v<IP_ADDRESS>/ but when I go to install the nvidia kernel module, I get an error because the kernel was compiled with gcc 4.2 but I have 4.3
[01:24] <B1OS> I need to use Wake-On-LAN, What would be causing my NIC to power off when i shut down?
[01:24] <Zxcvb> any idea where I can get a working <IP_ADDRESS> kernel package other than manually compiling it?
[01:24] <pdtaptrick> Hi can someone please help- this is driving me nuts.  PXE is enabled in the BIOS.
[01:27] <Mike_lifeguard> Lucifer_Cat: move /home to it's own partition then reinstall on /
[01:27] <pdtaptrick> anyone?
[01:27] <pdtaptrick> Hi can someone please help- this is driving me nuts. Im trying to restart bind9 and im getting this error in /var/log/daemon:  /etc/bind/named.conf.local:9: open: /etc/rndc.key: permission denied
[01:27] <a_clever_name> and delete any thing that says userset that you did not do yourself
[01:27] <laymansnerd_> hey room what is the easiest firewall config
[01:27] <laymansnerd_> gui
[01:27] <th0r> laymansnerd: firestarter
[01:28] <jiohdi> does linux need a firewall?
[01:28] <donnybrasco> hello - I am running jaunty and have just removed my windows and ubuntu 8.10 partitions using gparted; everything seems to be working fine (after a few hiccoughs).  I am now about to edit my grub menu to remove the old operating systems from it.  My question is: should I remove all entries except "title		Ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-13-generic" and title		Ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-13-generic (recovery mode)"?
[01:28] <Sirius_Black> Mike_lifeguard: I actually _Want_ it to remove my user data. I am selling the machine off to someone else.
[01:28] <craigwell> a_clever_name: i'm in there
[01:28] <Mike_lifeguard> Sirius_Black: sorry -- then you should use dd or something to erase things securely
[01:29] <th0r> jiohdi: can't hurt
[01:29] <a_clever_name> yes it will delete everything if you reinstall if yoursystem is getigg slugish however instll bleach bit and do a full system scan
[01:29] <jiohdi> th0r, can't slow system down?
[01:29] <Zxcvb> Sirus_Black: I hear shred is useful, or just use dban if you want to wipe everything on the disk
[01:29] <chauncellor> donnybrasco, That sounds reasonable
[01:29] <th0r> jiohdi: not appreciably, iptables is built into the kernel
[01:29] <chauncellor> donnybrasco, I'm guessing those are old kernel entries, yes?
[01:29] <chauncellor> Sirius_Black, dban is amazing for nuking
[01:30] <bruce89> good old dd
[01:30] <craigwell> i think i'm stuck in a default config
[01:30] <stryker> im trying to get a game to work under wine, installation was fine, but when i start to play, i get a directx error, can anyone help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/235541/ <== thats the console info after i ran the game with wine
[01:30] <Sirius_Black> chauncellor: cool. and it will keep the other partition safe, right. theres XP on it which i do not want to touch
[01:30] <craigwell> when i removed the firefox package, it still remained launchable on the taskbar
[01:30] <Nexxus> have linux questions? #CLIUC
[01:30] <a_clever_name> craigwell, i'm unsure if i want to contune or just coppy my files and instll kubuntu
[01:31] <chauncellor> Sirius_Black, whoa, dban will nuke the whole thing
[01:31] <chauncellor> Sirius_Black, at least I think
[01:31] <bruce89> craigwell: remove the launcher
[01:31] <Sirius_Black> then its cool :P im selling it to a noob girl anyways, shes not going to run all sorts of file recovery
[01:31] <sebsebseb> Sirius_Black: no Dban will wipe the whole hard disk
[01:32] <chauncellor> sebsebseb, thanks for clarifying :D :D
[01:32] <MRZxSpectrum> test abc
[01:32] <MRZxSpectrum> Good
[01:32] <sebsebseb> chauncellor: ok np
[01:32] <Lucifer_Cat> thanks sebsebseb
[01:32] <MRZxSpectrum> Hello sebsebseb dood!
[01:32] <a_clever_name> Lucifer_Cat, put it in the microwave
[01:33] <sebsebseb> Lucifer_Cat: np and sell it to her with pre installed Ubuntu :)
[01:33] <chauncellor> Lucifer_Cat, would you be satisfied with just reformatting the partition and putting a buttload of data on and off it?
[01:33] <Lucifer_Cat> chauncellor: i guess that would work.
[01:33] <Lucifer_Cat> it will have reformat option on it, right, when i reinstall
[01:33] <stryker> fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x32e510,0x00000000), stub!
[01:33] <stryker> err: d3d:resource_init Out of adapter memory
[01:33] <stryker> what does that mean?
[01:34] <d0htem> need ruby 1.9.1 ! :/
[01:34] <donnybrasco> chauncellor: yeah - my laptop was intially running Vista (which obviously sucks), then I tried dual-boot with 8.04  ... while upgrading ubuntu to 8.10 I lost power and it became corrupted, so I installed MCE but had a bunch of issues with the licence - so I installed 9.04 and loved it once I found out about this irc and set it all up correctly, so I decided to remove everything except 9.04 with gparted ... tha
[01:34] <donnybrasco> t's the story in a nutshell
[01:34] <FloodBot3> donnybrasco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:34] <a_clever_name> Lucifer_Cat, just make pancakes
[01:34] <mcpancakes> om nom nom
[01:34] <donnybrasco> floodbot: I don't understand (sorry, I'm new at this)
[01:34] <Lucifer_Cat> a_clever_name: seeing as how I do not have any military secrets on that machine, I think its cool :P
[01:35] <a_clever_name> good
[01:35] <sebsebseb> donnybrasco: floodbot is a computer program not a person
[01:35] <sebsebseb> donnybrasco: it will message you when you type a bit to much at once
[01:35] <donnybrasco> haha ... oh
[01:35] <Lucifer_Cat> donnybrasco: basically you pasted/typed in too much text in a single message, and the program thought you were doing it intentionally
[01:35] <chauncellor> donnybrasco, There's a program called startupmanager in the repos that can automate that for you
[01:35] <sebsebseb> donnybrasco: and it might also kick you out of the channal
[01:36] <ZOMBE> I have a game in Desktop/lbz3d and I have been trying to install it.  How can i get it to install?
[01:36] <datakid> hola, on Jaunty, using firefox 3.5 from the ppa, google gears doesn't work?
[01:36] <datakid> apparently it should
[01:37] <donnybrasco> thanks chauncellor - I'm checking that out now
[01:37] <sebsebseb> MRZxSpectrum: hi
[01:37] <UO> How do I images my dual-booting XP and Ubuntu 9.04 ext4 filesystem?
[01:37] <donnybrasco> sebsebseb: thanks for the tip - I'll keep that in mind
[01:37] <sebsebseb> donnybrasco: ok
[01:37] <sebsebseb> donnybrasco: also
[01:37] <sebsebseb> !bot > donnybrasco
[01:38] <yesitjustme> i tried connecting my hdtv on my computer to use as a monitor but is not displaying, on my pc i use a vga 15 pin male to male cable what could be wrong?
[01:38] <edbian> yesitjustme: When you system boots linux probes the hardware.  Try REbooting with the HDTV plugged in (and on and set to the right input)
[01:39] <d0htem> will karmic include ruby 1.9.1?
[01:39] <d0htem> is this the right channel to ask?
[01:39] <yesitjustme> ok
[01:39] <Pici> d0htem: #ubuntu+1 please
[01:39] <yesitjustme> thanks
[01:39] <edbian> yesitjustme: Good luck!
[01:39] <d0htem> Pici: thx
[01:40] <bruce89> !info ruby karmic
[01:40] <xcv> trying again. my mission is to locate a server app i installed within the last few months. i can't find it
[01:40] <StrangeCharm_> what ports are only usable by root?
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> StrangeCharm_:  normally the lower 1024 ports I think are reserved.. (im going from my old ,memory here)
[01:41] <StrangeCharm_> cheers, Dr_Willis
[01:41] <th0r> StrangeCharm: it isn't that the ports are reserved for root..but often the software that uses those ports can only be started or stopped by root
[01:41] <ZOMBE> How can I install a game? It's on Desktop/lbz3d. I have tried sudo sh install lbzrun and nothing has worked...
[01:42] <edbian> ZOMBE: Is lbz3d a folder?
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> ZOMBE:  where did ya get that 'sh install whatever' command from?
[01:42] <StrangeCharm_> th0r, indeed
[01:42] <ZOMBE> edbian: ywa
[01:42] <xcv> trying again. my mission is to locate a server app i installed within the last few months. i can't find it... and i am asking for help with ideas on how search for it or what logs to check. please? :)
[01:42] <UO> How do I images my dual-booting XP and Kubuntu 9.04 ext4 filesystem?
[01:42] <edbian> ZOMBE: Sorry?
[01:42] <ZOMBE> Dr_Willis a message board
[01:42] <donnybrasco> sebsebseb: thanks for the links and info - appreciate all the help I've gotten on here (from everyone) makes the whole linux transition so much easier when you can talk to an actual person!!
[01:43] <ZOMBE> edbian: lbz3d is a folder on the Desktop, lbzrun is the filename installer
[01:43] <Joe1> anyone know a dreamweaver alternative for ubuntu ?
[01:43] <th0r> xcv maybe if you told us what app you installed we might have some idea what to tell you
[01:43] <Zxcvb> !info linux-image karmic
[01:43] <edbian> ZOMBE: Is this source code?  Or a pre-compiled package?
[01:43] <sebsebseb> donnybrasco: yeah no probs
[01:43] <Joe1> anyone know a dreamweaver alternative for ubuntu ?
[01:43] <xcv> th0r: that's part of the problem... can't remember the name of the app... it was a httpd or perhaps a ftpd
[01:43] <magical_walrus> is it possible to specify a swap partition after I have installed ubuntu?
[01:43] <sebsebseb> !html |  Joe1
[01:43] <ZOMBE> edbian: pre-compiled package I believe. It was zipped in a tar.bz2
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> ZOMBE:  'sh install whtever' makes no sence
[01:44] <ZOMBE> edbian: I got it to install once now I can't remember what I did.
[01:44] <Joe1> ubottu it needs to be pretty easy to use
[01:44] <chauncellor> Joe1, gedit (joke, joke)
[01:44] <xcv> th0r: but i do recall i ran it from terminal... don't recall if i used sudo to invoke it.
[01:44] <sebsebseb> Joe1: depending on the version and such,  you can also Wine Dreamweaver
[01:44] <ZOMBE> Dr_Willis: I really don't know what I am doing, first day on any linux system.
[01:44] <edbian> ZOMBE: .tar.bz2 means it is source code.  (not a pre-compilied package.  Those end in .rpm or .deb usually :) )
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> ZOMBE: unpack the archive.. cd to the directroy the game is in.. look whates there.
[01:44] <sebsebseb> !bot |  Joe1
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> ZOMBE:  perhaps ya should explore the games in the repositories.. and read  up on linux fundamentals.
[01:44] <edbian> ZOMBE: If you installed it once you should not need to do it again
[01:44] <Joe1> sebsebseb - what versions are available do you know ?
[01:45] <ZOMBE> Dr_Willis I did unpack it. Now I have a lbzrun file that I can't figure out how to install. I had it installed then I had to format the hard drive and can't figure out how I got it.
[01:45] <magical_walrus> Is it possible to specify a swap partition after I have installed ubuntu?
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> ZOMBE:  theres dozens of games easially installed via the package manager
[01:45] <UO> How do I images my dual-booting XP and Kubuntu 9.04 ext4 filesystem?
[01:45] <ZOMBE> edbian: I had to format due  to video card issue.
[01:45] <sebsebseb> !wine >  Joe1
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> ZOMBE:  try ./lbzrun   to 'run' the thing Unless thats a directroy name.. if so look IN the directory
[01:45] <edbian> ZOMBE: First extract the archive so it's a regular folder
[01:45] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, you can use GParted to do that
[01:45] <network___> I have a 22" monitor, so it gets very annoying when applications launch in fullscreen, or maximized.
[01:45] <sebsebseb> Joe1: http://appdb.winehq.org
[01:45] <network___> is there a way to lock windows to a certian size?
[01:46] <sebsebseb> Joe1: also with enough RAM you can even virtual machine Windows inside Ubuntu for Dreamweaver
[01:46] <ZOMBE> edbian: It's extracted
[01:46] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: I can specify a swap partition with GParted, or just make one?
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> network___:  that 'devilspie' program can do that i recall.
[01:46] <fiber_cut> how do I turn off gtk-record my desktop
[01:46] <fiber_cut> I jsut have a window border
[01:46] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, there's a context menu item for "swapon" and "swapoff"
[01:46] <network___> Thanks!
[01:46] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: Oh, thanks.
[01:46] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, No problem :)
[01:46] <ZOMBE> Dr_Willis it worked but I got a error saying kdialog not found
[01:46] <network___> I appreciate that!
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> fiber_cut:  after you start recording. it puts an icon in the system tray
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> ZOMBE:  you need to install kdialog then.
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> !find kdialog
[01:47] <UO> How do makes images of my dual-booting XP and Kubuntu 9.04 ext4 filesystem? Gparted?
[01:47] <chauncellor> record-my-desktop is such a pain to record audio....
[01:47] <magical_walrus> Aso, I've been getting the 'white screen of death' occasionally (where the system crashes and the screen goes completely white). COuld the problem be that I didn't specify a swap partition?
[01:48] <ZOMBE> Dr_Willis: It's installing. Would you mind helping me with one more question?
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> ZOMBE:  its in the kdebase-bin package it seems..
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install kdebase-bin
[01:48] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, er... I don't know about that. First thing I'd say is an Xorg problem or a display driver problem... NVidia?
[01:48] <a_clever_name>     /\___/\
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[01:48] <FloodBot3> a_clever_name: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:49] <Zxcvb> has anyone used the kernel packages at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v<IP_ADDRESS>/ ?
[01:49] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: I have an ATI graphics card, and the whole time I used 8.04, i never had the problem.
[01:49] <UO> How do makes images of my dual-booting XP and Kubuntu 9.04 ext4 filesystem? Gparted?
[01:50] <jabagawee> anyone know how rm works? i rm -rf'ed my data directory, and i have a feelign it's still recoverable
[01:50] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: But, I'm using the latest version of ubuntu now (9.04) and it does it occasionally
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> ati has moved removed support from many of their cards from the newer fglrx drivers.
[01:50] <ZOMBE> The Ubuntu NVIDIA drivers are 1.80, outdated, new ones are 1.85. I successully got the new 1.85 to install but the screen still scrolled laggy like I had no display drivers. So I ended up installing the Ubuntu 1.80 so I could have display drivers. What went wrong with 1.85? It said the install was successful. I stopped xorg, did it just like I was suppose to, but still didn't function right.
[01:50] <edbian> UO: gparted can copy partitions.  So can dd.  Neither tool however will be able to copy the MBR
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> jabagawee:  rm just unlinks the files from the sfilesystem..  they may or ,may not be recoverable..
[01:50] <th0r> jabagawee: nope....it isn't recoverable
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> jabagawee:  if you are wanting to be paranoid theres secure deletion tools out there.
[01:50] <jabagawee> okay full story
[01:51] <UO> edbian, what commercial products do you know that can image the partition? Open source is okay as well
[01:51] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, I've never used an ATI card before (though once the drivers get good, I'm ditching the ****hole that is NVidia!
[01:51] <jabagawee> edbian, i was under the belief that dd can copy the MBR
[01:51] <dave__> Ineed help setting up a dial up app for a friend
[01:51] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: Any idea what may be the problem? I have a swap partition on 8.04, but not on 9.04
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> chauncellor:  it seem ati is not doing that much better these days either.
[01:51] <HrafnNordhri> greets what channel do I go to to see about submitting artwork?
[01:51] <edbian> UO: I just said.  gparted and dd
[01:52] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, how much RAM do you have?
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> jabagawee:  'dd' can copy the mbr to a file and back.. yes.
[01:52] <lomez> hey, i have ubuntu netbook remix but no gnome control center. how do i get it? i tried to install via apt-get control-center but it wasnt the package
[01:52] <edbian> jabagawee: That's possible.  I'm not aware of how though
[01:52] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: Never checked that
[01:52] <magical_walrus> one moment
[01:52] <chauncellor> Dr_Willis, but I've heard that the usual broken things have been fixed, like video playback...
[01:52] <jabagawee> i store all my stuff in /srv. rsync'ed a copy of /srv to /backups/srv a few days back (i know, no cronjob yet, and no offsite. but still, better than nothing). in alpha order, the first subdir (there are no files in /srv, only subdirs) is "Books," which was last modified well before the rsync. My dearest wish is that rm unlinks files starting from the first subdir in alpha order, in which case my rsync'ed copy can save my day
[01:52] <jabagawee> anyone know if that is true?
[01:52] <UO> edbian, is there something like norton ghost for linux?
[01:52] <chauncellor> or at least been made better
[01:53] <nevyn> UO: dd
[01:53] <dave__> can anyone help me, trying to set up gnome.ppp on a friends laptop
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> chauncellor:  i still see people in here with cards that 'used' to work with fglrx and no longer do.. thats not a big help to them.  I dont plan on using ati any time soon.
[01:53] <edbian> UO: Not that I know of.  dd and gparted as just as fast and do the same job essentially though
[01:53] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: I assume my RAM is around 1-2 GB
[01:53] <UO> okay. thanks edbian and nevyn
[01:53] <nevyn> UO: in general linux doesn't need tools with "magic" knowledge
[01:53] <edbian> UO: NP!   Good luck
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> UO:  there is a 'ghost4linux' tool called g4l I think. that works similary. (i havent used it so cant vouch for it)
[01:53] <yufeng> 中
[01:53] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, when you get the white screen, are you running lots of applications?
[01:54] <nevyn> UO: in a previous life we had to deploy a LOT of linux machines and wrote an installer in shell that used netcat and tar
[01:54] <xjunior> hi all, I have a Intel HDA audio controller, but I'm not being able to use it on skype or even on gnome-recorder
[01:54] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, My swap isn't used all that much, really, and I have 2 Gb RAM
[01:54] <lomez> edbian, jabagawee There's Partition Image which is pretty good
[01:54] <xjunior> can someone help me?
[01:54] <edbian> xjunior: Depends on your issue :)
[01:54] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: No, but Firefox is always open during the crash, and terminal is open on a few crashes
[01:54] <matiu> Just in case no-one knows, packages.ubuntu.com seems to be broken .. giving errors: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/openssh-server and not finding anything in any searches
[01:55] <xjunior> edbian, I already said :)
[01:55] <xjunior> hi all, I have a Intel HDA audio controller, but I'm not being able to use it on skype or even on gnome-recorder
[01:55] <mechtech> !ask | xjunior
[01:55] <xcthulhu> This is probably a bit esoteric, but is anyone here familiar with dietlibc?
[01:55] <edbian> xjunior: Ooops!  Sorry.  No I don't know I've never set up skype :/
[01:55] <UO> nevyn, that sounds complicated
[01:55] <Xqtftqx> Hello everybody, im having tons of issues using fusermount. I keep getting operation not permitted. I've gone threw about 3 pages of google searches and tried everything suggeset and nothing has worked.
[01:55] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, weird. I'm afraid I don't know.... I'd blame Xorg first, but that's not really fair as I don't really know all that is happening
[01:55] <xjunior> edbian, I don't think that the problem is with skype
[01:55] <jabagawee> so anyone familiar with how rsync works?
[01:55] <lomez> hey, i have ubuntu netbook remix but no gnome control center. how do i get it? i tried to install via apt-get control-center but it wasnt the name. ideas?
[01:55] <jabagawee> s/rsync/rm/
[01:56] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, or the ATI driver.
[01:56] <B1OS> I need to use Wake-On-LAN, What would be causing my NIC to power off when i shut down? PXE is enabled in the BIOS.
[01:56] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: I'm a little bit of an ubuntu noob. What does xorg do, exactly?
[01:56] <edbian> xjunior: You're probably right.  I was just saying I don't know how to help you :(
[01:56] <xcthulhu> jabagawee: You might try using the man; type "man rm"
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> !find gnome-control-center
[01:56] <eeeuser133> hi
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> lomez:  its in ^^^^
[01:56] <edbian> magical_walrus: xorg is the base of your graphical desktop! :)
[01:56] <xjunior> edbian, that's ok ;) thank you anyway
[01:56] <edbian> xjunior: Good luck!
[01:56] <network___> Hello, I just downloaded devilspie, and I cannot find it in the menus.so I went to the terminal and ran it. then I got this error message. :No s-expressions loaded, quiting
[01:56] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: Also, I am not using an ATI driver. It seems none are available for 9.04 yet
[01:56] <xcthulhu> jabagawee: But to get you started, rm -r removes recursively, and rm -i is "interactive" mode, where it asks you if you want to delete
[01:57] <jabagawee> xcthulhu, the manpage doesnt help very much for my situation...
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> jabagawee:  i find rm works rather well. :)  is tehre some specific problem you are having with it?
[01:57] <xcthulhu> jabagawee: What are you trying to do?
[01:57] <network___> Also, Im running in gnome
[01:57] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: I have not installed a driver at all
[01:57] <jabagawee> Dr_Willis, lemme paste my situation again
[01:57] <edbian> network___: You have to have a minimal configuration file set up for devilspie to run.
[01:57] <jabagawee> i store all my stuff in /srv. rsync'ed a copy of /srv to /backups/srv a few days back (i know, no cronjob yet, and no offsite. but still, better than nothing). in alpha order, the first subdir (there are no files in /srv, only subdirs) is "Books," which was last modified well before the rsync. My dearest wish is that rm unlinks files starting from the first subdir in alpha order, in which case my rsync'ed copy can save my day
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> network___:  its not a gui app.  check its docs/homepage. you have to make some rulesets for it.
[01:57] <network___> ok
[01:57] <network___> thanks
[01:57] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, Xorg is the window system used. It's the system that enables a graphical environment
[01:57] <edbian> network___: Look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75749
[01:58] <chauncellor> I used Jaunty on an Intel-Graphics powered machine and it was HELL
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> jabagawee:  if you are worried about the order things get removed.. you could use 'find' and the options it has to remove things in a specific order.
[01:58] <eeeuser133> whats the name of the ubuntu installer? ubuguility?
[01:58] <jabagawee> eeeuser133, ubiquity?
[01:58] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, I'm googling around for your problem...
[01:58] <network___> Thanks!
[01:58] <edbian> eeeuser133: ubiquity lol
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> jabagawee:  if this is about recovering things.. well.. no idea on that.. good luck undeleting things.
[01:58] <jabagawee> Dr_Willis, the situation is that i already rm'ed some files... so i want to know what order rm does it in
[01:58] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, have you done any drastic changes to your system?
[01:59] <magical_walrus> No
[01:59] <ultraz> Hello, I am really bad when it comes to linux and graphics .... I need to setup my (01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc M52 [Mobility Radeon X1300] [1002:7149]) can somebody help me? Up until now i used System > Administration > Hardware drivers, and just checked graphic driver, but now i don't get anything listed.
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> jabagawee:  from what ive seen it does it aplhabetically   make some test dirs and watch the order perhaps?
[01:59] <eeeuser133> edbian: lol yeah. that thing crashes when i try to install eeebuntu
[01:59] <jabagawee> Dr_Willis, err... sure
[01:59] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: No
[01:59] <edbian> ultraz: Are you trying to turn on compiz?
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> jabagawee:   check the timestamps on the things perhaps  to see when it was last modfied/
[02:00] <eeeuser133> although i realise this is not the eeebuntu channel. but i think there isnt one
[02:00] <jabagawee> Dr_Willis, thats a great suggestion. otoh, i might also need to do a bitta reading on the rm source code
[02:00] <jabagawee> where would that be/
[02:00] <ultraz> edbian: well, maybe later on. But i am trying to change resolution.
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> !find rm
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> heh.. :)
[02:00] <Xqtftqx> Is anybody able to help me with fusermount? I keep getting "fusermount: mount failed: Operation not permitted" when I am not root.
[02:00] <edbian> ultraz: What are you stuck at?
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> Xqtftqx:  for users to  use fuse - they normally have to be in the FUSE user group i recall.
[02:01] <Xqtftqx> Dr_Willis: I am in the fuse group.
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> Xqtftqx:  perhaps you are using the command wrong then.
[02:01] <Xqtftqx> im using sshfs
[02:01] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, the only thing I can suggest is that you boot into recovery mode and select the option to "repair X" it will automatically configure it for you. But I'm not sure if that would help
[02:01] <edbian> Xqtftqx: You have to restart the system for group policy to take effect.
[02:01] <jabagawee> Dr_Willis, i'll be darned if google keeps telling me that "rm source code" refers to realmedia... no i do not want to know how realplayer handles streams, thank you
[02:01] <mechtech> anybody know where I can find any GOOD content on shoutcast?
[02:01] <chauncellor> Anyone else have any ideas?
[02:02] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: Is there it a possibility it will b0rk my installation/change anything?
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> jabagawee:  check the apt package manager docs/guides therew a way to get them to download the soruce packages but ive never done so.. and i dont know what package 'rm' is in.
[02:02] <DevilBass> help my  hdd  free space is Shortening Every certain time
[02:02] <yesitjustme> Is it true that to use a hdtv as a pc monitor dvi cable is needed? Cause what i use was a vga 15 pin male to male and didn't work?
[02:02] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, you're not using any drivers and you aren't using desktop effects, right?
[02:02] <jabagawee> Dr_Willis, most likely gnu coreutils
[02:02] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: Correct
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> yesitjustme:  ive used vga cables to a tv befor.
[02:02] <jabagawee> meh, i'll get it somehow. i'm running gentoo anyways
[02:02] <edbian> yesitjustme: You do not need dvi.  VGA should be fine
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> yesitjustme:  my tv's have both.. vga and dvi
[02:03] <ultraz> edbian: the highest resolution given in display preferences is 1024x768. This display should support 1400 x 1050, so i thought i need display driver.
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> well hdmi
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:03] <Xodiac13> i just bought a pc controller does ubuntu detect that as a controller so i can use it on n64 emulators
[02:03] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, then it should not harm it. Reconfiguring X will sometimes cause some issues with drivers and fancy effects, but usually all you have to do is re-enable them
[02:03] <yesitjustme> ok i see
[02:03] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: Ok, thanks.
[02:03] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, I'd put that swap on, as well. Maybe that is the problem after all, but it's good to be safe :)
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> Xodiac13:  you mean a gamepad?.. it shuld work..   see if other games detect/use it..
[02:03] <edbian> ultraz: xrandr -q will show a list of all the resolutions that should be possible.  What do you see from the output of that command?
[02:03] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, let me know how it works out
[02:03] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: Will do.
[02:04] <runa_> hi i have a problem with conky: after several hours that of usage, it fills 40% of my ram. here is my conkyrc http://pastebin.com/d7abe39dd
[02:04] <Xodiac13> Dr_Willis: yes a gamepad i just want to make sure i can use it on the emulators and there are n64 emulators for linux right that can play online like mupen64
[02:04] <DevilBass> help my  hdd  free space is Shortening Every certain time some body know why?
[02:04] <ultraz> edbian: :Q, hm ..... max 1024x768
[02:04] <xjunior> hi all, I have a Intel HDA audio controller, but I'm not being able to use it on skype or even on gnome-recorder
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> Xodiac13:  there are n64 emulators.. ive not used them.   if the thing supports gamepads.. it should work..
[02:04] <ultraz> edbian: thanks, i guess my display cant support higher resolution after all.
[02:04] <Xqtftqx> edbian: Restarting didn't fix anything.
[02:05] <edbian> ultraz: No no
[02:05] <edbian> ultraz: You may be correct
[02:05] <edbian> ultraz: xrandr -q isn't the end all be all
[02:05] <DevilBass> ayuda el espacio libre de mi hdd se va reduciendo de cuando en cuando
[02:05] <edbian> Xqtftqx: sorry :(
[02:05] <duckwars> what is it called when I wanna make a small text file that makes it so when i type "duckwars" it substitutes with  "ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>I'm just trying to figure out what to google
[02:05] <ultraz> edbian: :-)
[02:05] <edbian> ultraz: pm me
[02:05] <Xodiac13> Dr_Willis: okay nice nice and i plan on getting a radeon 4780 hd graphics card is it better to go with nvidia from what i heard and with ram i plan on upgrading my ram
[02:06] <gokturk_> ubuntutr
[02:06] <Xqtftqx> Does anybody else have any ideas on why I cannot use sshfs?
[02:06] <lomez> ty Dr_Willis
[02:06] <xFlux> duckwars:  Just use an alias in your bashrc file
[02:06] <xFlux> duckwars=`ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:06] <gokturk_> #ubuntu-tr
[02:06] <duckwars> xFlux, my brother was helping do this, but it is weird on OS X because you can't store it in the standard linux folder
[02:07] <dassouki> is there a way to install an unstable version ? with apt-get
[02:07] <duckwars> I don't know where to put the text file to make OS X know I want it as a command
[02:07] <xFlux> duckwars:  If you type cd ~; ls -la it should show .bashrc
[02:08] <xFlux> duckwars:  If its not there try creating one.  BASH is used in OSX as well, so it should use the same conventions
[02:08] <Dulak> duckwars: you have to make it, ~/.bashrc it doesn't exist by default on osx
[02:09] <xFlux> Xqtftqx:  I noticed that today with fusessh not properly installing on 9.04.   Whenever I plug in this external (USB) hard drive, my computer does an instant hard shutdown. What could be wrong?
[02:10] <xFlux> duckwars:  You have to exit and restart your bash session for it to take effect
[02:11] <lomez> VCoolio, how do i do that? i went in there but couldnt figure out how to map programs to keyboard cuts
[02:11] <xFlux> duckwars:  .bashrc is read on initial session creation, not post
[02:11] <duckwars> sooo. i can't just close and restart terminal, I have to restart the computer?
[02:11] <xFlux> no
[02:11] <xFlux> type
[02:12] <xFlux> export duckwars=`ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:12] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: how exactly would I turn swap on/off, again?
[02:12] <xFlux> swapon
[02:12] <xFlux> swapoff :)
[02:12] <VCoolio> lomez: click the add button
[02:12] <xFlux> just not in a circular motion
[02:12] <lomez> ty VCoolio
[02:12] <magical_walrus> xFlux: But, where?
[02:12] <xFlux> and the shell
[02:12] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, in GParted, just right click on the swap partition and click "swapon"
[02:12] <xFlux> *at the shell
[02:12] <magical_walrus> oh
[02:13] <xFlux> or you can take chauncellor's advice and never learn what that simple gui is doing! :)
[02:13] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, xFlux was talking about from the command line :)
[02:13] <duckwars> xFlux, I put in your format and still doesn't work... should I restart the computer?
[02:13] <duckwars> I just closed and reopened the terminal
[02:13] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: And once I'm in recovery mode how can I get to a Command line interface to run "repair X"
[02:13] <network___> Is there good gui compiler for linux other than gambas?
[02:13] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, it will be an option in recovery mode, no command line
[02:13] <DevilBass> help my  hdd  free space is Shortening Every certain time I think its a gnu/linux virus
[02:14] <edbian> DevilBass: Are you not filling it yourself?
[02:14] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, unless you want to, as xFlux says, "learn what that simple GUI is doing" :P
[02:14] <lomez> ok VCoolio there doesnt seem to be any option to add a new one in here
[02:14] <xFlux> duckwars:  It should def work.......If you type cd ~ you are in your current user's home directory.  If you edit .bashrc and add exactly what I wrote, save it, and restart bash it should work
[02:14] <edbian> DevilBass: Use the "disk usage analyzer" to find where these mystery files are :)
[02:14] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: But it won't look exactly like repair X, maybe something like repair xorg (try to fix graphical blah... blah)
[02:14] <chauncellor> yeah, that's it
[02:14] <magical_walrus> Oh
[02:14] <magical_walrus> I did that
[02:14] <xFlux> duckwars:  Other than that, I would recommend reading on google to see if bashrc even exists in the mac(which last time I checked on my macbook it did)
[02:15] <VCoolio> lomez: hm i've heard that before; then use gconf-editor to do it; let me find the entry
[02:15] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, good. This may or may not fix the issue. That's a broad thing that that problem could cover.
[02:15] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, do you have any surefire ways of replicating it?
[02:15] <lomez> ty VCoolio
[02:15] <magical_walrus> How can I create a swap partition with GParted? When I try to "create a new partition table", it warns about blitzing my entire device.
[02:16] <xcthulhu> Yeah!
[02:16] <xcthulhu> I got cryopid to compile again
[02:16] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: I cannot replicate the problem
[02:16] <VCoolio> lomez: in configuration editor in apps>metacity you can assign commands to keyboard shortcuts
[02:16] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, well, want to learn a little trick if that ever happens again? :)
[02:16] <magical_walrus> Of course
[02:16] <lomez> thanks VCoolio
[02:17] <mechtech> ok...where to look for shoutcast content (other than the playlist)
[02:17] <DevilBass> edbian : well i check  time to time the nautilus condition bar and i notice the free space reduction
[02:17] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, if you hold down <alt><SysRq> and then press "K", you will kill your session and go back to the login prompt
[02:17] <edbian> DevilBass: Are you installing software often?
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> mechtech:  the shoutcast homepage? or use streamtuner, or tunapie programs. perhaps.
[02:17] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: Thanks
[02:17] <magical_walrus> But
[02:17] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, there used to be a nifty <ctrl><alt><bckspce> shortcut, but they shut that off by default now
[02:18] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, those commands are just in case it freezes up and you need to start over without having to boot everything up again
[02:18] <sebsebseb> !dontzp
[02:18] <sebsebseb> !dontzap
[02:18] <chauncellor> yeah, but you have to install a package
[02:18] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: When I have read about this problem, people said the system is 100% hosed, and a restart will only fix it (temporarily)
[02:18] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, ouch.... only time that it hasn't worked is when NVidia's piss-poor drivers locked the entire system up
[02:19] <magical_walrus> chauncellor: Kind of like ATI's piss-poor drivers? D:
[02:19] <DevilBass> edbian: no i notice the reduccion when  I needed to copy some mp3 file to my hdd
[02:19] <chauncellor> magical_walrus, yeah, kinda :)
[02:19] <edbian> DevilBass: You should look at "Disk Usage Analyzer"
[02:20] <magical_walrus> How can I create a swap partition with GParted? When I try to "create a new partition table", it warns about blitzing my entire device.
[02:20] <edbian> DevilBass: Try: "sudo apt-get clean" to clear out apt-get's old packages (it caches them)
[02:21] <DevilBass> edbian: I check my disk only whit FSCK command
[02:21] <edbian> DevilBass: Well that's good for finding errors...
[02:21] <lslpp> OT: what does this sentence mean: "I wonder what the reasoning behind that was" ... how would you say that with different words?
[02:22] <jethro> is there a way to sync the calendar that comes with ubuntu with my google calendar?
[02:23] <DevilBass> edbian: i have open the nautilus and it show me the reduccion free space every 20 seconds more less
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> jethro:  theres google applets tools  you can install.. perhaps those can do it.
[02:23] <magical_walrus> How can I create a swap partition with GParted? When I try to "create a new partition table", it warns about blitzing my entire device.
[02:23] <danbhfive> lslpp: I wonder why so-and-so made some decision
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> lslpp:  'what was he thinking'
[02:24] <chauncellor> jethro, yes, there is! There's an option in Evolution that will sync it with google!
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  you resize/shrink the other partitiosn.. make a new one.. set its type to be swap.
[02:24] <jethro> dr_willis a google applet for gnome?
[02:24] <lslpp> danbhfive, Dr_Willis ... thank you
[02:24] <danbhfive> magical_walrus: make a new partition, not a new partition table
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> jethro:  yes. google widgets or whatever they are called work on linux.
[02:24] <edbian> DevilBass: I don't know what you want me to tell you.  I think you should use the disk-usage-analyzer to figure out what files are filling the disk
[02:24] <jethro> dr_willis how do i install them?
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> jethro:  i think they are in the medibuntu repos.
[02:25] <jethro> chauncellor i am using thunderbird currently but could change to evolution for this
[02:25] <chauncellor> jethro, there might be a thunderbird addon...
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> jethro:  a google search for 'google gadgets ubuntu' --> http://helpforlinux.blogspot.com/2009/06/install-google-gadgets-in-ubuntu-904.html
[02:26] <dassouki> i was wondering why can't i install the package ,, although i'm following https://launchpad.net/~qgis/+archive/unstable
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install google-gadgets-gtk
[02:26] <chauncellor> jethro, a quick google search just brought up some stuff about integrating google calendar into Thunderbird. it's possible :)
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> To the Bat-Google!
[02:26] <chauncellor> Holy google, Batman!
[02:27] <jethro> dr_willis and chauncellor thank you
[02:27] <xcv> th0r: that's part of the problem... can't remember the name of the app... it was a httpd or perhaps a ftpd
[02:27] <chauncellor> jethro, no problem-o
[02:28] <sh4d0wz> Question: Whats a terminal apt-get command for a good isoburner besides k3b
[02:29] <magical_walrus> I resized a parition and created 2.5GB of unallocated space. How can I create a logical partition for swap space out of this with GParted?
[02:29] <sh4d0wz> Question: Whats a terminal apt-get command for a good isoburner besides k3b
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  a 2.5gb is a bit large..  you can have 4 parimarie partitions maximum. so it depends on what else you got.
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  swap partition can be logical or primary - make a new partition. set its type to swap.
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  its same as making any other partition with a normal filesystem. you just set the type to be the special type of 'swap'
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  you COULD make/use a swap file if you really wanted to.
[02:30] <Blehk> For cron, if I have minutes set up as */30 would that be every two minutes?
[02:30] <rww> .google test
[02:30] <Mystic> http://www.test.com/ (Test.com Web Based Testing and Certification Software v2.0)
[02:30] <medhat> hi
[02:30] <sh4d0wz> Question: Whats a terminal apt-get command for a good isoburner besides k3b
[02:30] <sh4d0wz> Question: Whats a terminal apt-get command for a good isoburner besides k3b
[02:30] <sh4d0wz> Question: Whats a terminal apt-get command for a good isoburner besides k3b
[02:30] <FloodBot3> sh4d0wz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:31] <magical_walrus> Dr_willis: Ok, but I already have 4 primary paritions. When I click 'new' it says I cannot make another primary one, but I dont want to make a primary partition.
[02:31] <dassouki> i was wondering why can't i install the package ,, although i'm following https://launchpad.net/~qgis/+archive/unstable
[02:31] <chauncellor> sh4d0wz, brasero is a good one
[02:31] <chauncellor> sh4d0wz, sudo apt-get install brasero
[02:31] <sh4d0wz> Ok
[02:31] <kitche> sh4d0wz: or you just just use the cdrtools
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  if you want more then 4 partitions. one primary must be a extended partition. the extended will hold the 'logical' partitions.
[02:32] <magical_walrus> Ok
[02:32] <magical_walrus> Thanks
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  You could delete one primary and make it a extended . but that will lose all data in it.
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  it may be easier to just use a swap file.
[02:33] <Xodiac13> i just installed wine and wine doors and for some reason it is not in the applications menu i just installed project64 is there anyway i can get it in the meny
[02:33] <magical_walrus> Dr_willis: I'll just try to use Partition magic on windoze. It will let me make more than 4 partitions
[02:34] <xcv> trying to locate a server app i installed within the last few months. i can't find it... and i am asking for help with ideas on how search for it or what logs to check. please? i don't recall the name of the app. is there history log for apt-get install?
[02:34] <danbhfive> magical_walrus: the 4 primary partition limit doesnt matter whether you use magic or gparted
[02:34] <ozatomic> when i try and grep over a file and search for a directory path it doesn't work properly  grep "/var/mydir/" /proc/mounts     everytime no matter if the text si there or not it returns all the text as if tis use regex or something and not as a plain string
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  err.. no it wont..
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  4 parimaries is a limiation thats been in existantce for years...
[02:34] <Xodiac13> i just installed wine and wine doors and for some reason it is not in the applications menu i just installed project64 is there anyway i can get it in the meny
[02:35] <magical_walrus> Dr_willis: Oh, sorry. I guess I saw mistaken. I haven't used PM for a while
[02:35] <Frank83> Greetings guys. Is there a way to stop Ubuntu (9.04) using the PC Speakers for "Error" sounds? (Like pressing "Delete" in an empty line)
[02:36] <th0r> Frank83: edit the Sounds preferences
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> magical_walrus:  most windows apps wont let you make more then 1 primary partition anyway.  windows has had issues in the past with mor ethen 1 primary
[02:36] <magical_walrus> I see
[02:37] <julytwentyeight_> which is more stable kde or gnome?
[02:37] <funkywds> gnome
[02:37] <chauncellor> julytwentyeight_, milage may vary.
[02:37] <funkywds> and much easier to use
[02:37] <chauncellor> julytwentyeight_, I much prefer Gnome. A lot of others love KDE and hate Gnome
[02:38] <Frank83> th0r I can't find an option there for the internal PC speakers.
[02:38] <th0r> Frank83: System-Preferences-Sound
[02:38] <GodfatherofEire> Am I imagining things or was there a way to create a customized ubuntu live CD a while back?
[02:38] <dewc> Frank83: you can also stop the module pcspkr from loading
[02:38] <GodfatherofEire> Like, without it being a PITA
[02:38] <Frank83> Th0r There I am. "Sounds" tab.
[02:38] <julytwentyeight_> thanks for  opinions
[02:39] <xcv> julytwentyeight_, personal preference. try both if you can and then decide which you want to use. #dontchyawishwindowswouldallowthat
[02:39] <th0r> Frank83: if you want to change the device that plays the sounds...that is done on the Devices tab
[02:39] <Frank83> Dewc The module sounds interesting.
[02:39] <th0r> Frank83: if you just want to turn them off do it on the Sounds tab
[02:39] <julytwentyeight_> That's what Il have to do.
[02:40] <chauncellor> julytwentyeight_, try out WUBI if you are using Windows
[02:40] <dewc> Frank83: try what th0r is suggesting, if that doesnt do what you want, let me know.
[02:40] <julytwentyeight_> Il have to get over the iritatating learning curve, but wait, its linux :)
[02:40] <Xodiac13> i just installed wine and wine doors and for some reason it is not in the applications menu i just installed project64 is there anyway i can get it in the meny
[02:40] <julytwentyeight_> Im running on ubuntu
[02:40] <th0r> Frank83: if you want to turn them off just uncheck the Play alerts and sound effects box....
[02:40] <julytwentyeight_> Using gnome now.
[02:40] <Xodiac13> !wine
[02:40] <chauncellor> julytwentyeight_, oh, sorry. I just assumed you were a Windows user :) My fault
[02:41] <julytwentyeight_> That's offensive. Lol
[02:41] <chauncellor> julytwentyeight_, why is it offensive? It's helpful!
[02:41] <julytwentyeight_> I was joking.
[02:41] <xcv> help please: where to find history log for apt-get install?
[02:41] <nmatrix9> this channel is huge
[02:41] <chauncellor> julytwentyeight_, yeah, sorry, got that right after I hit enter :/
[02:41] <julytwentyeight_> I have a slow internet so I was contemplating installing kde. For hughesnet thats a big download
[02:42] <nmatrix9> any stunnel users in here?
[02:42] <chauncellor> julytwentyeight_, yeah, I have dial up at home... I'm housesitting right now, so I have a blazing fast one right now!
[02:42] <th0r> xcv: to my knowledge there is no such thing. If you can't remember what you did, you will have a hard time undoing it
[02:42] <bucky> GodfatherofEire: apt-cache show live-magic   apt-cache show uck
[02:42] <Xodiac13> !wine
[02:42] <Frank83> th0r: I think we are misunderstood. I didn't explain myself correctly. My system plays sounds just fine using the Motherboard integrated sound card. It's set up on ALSA because I modified the system from loading "PulseAudio". The system plays the system sounds normally, that is not the issue. The thing is that sometimes it uses the internal PC speakers for some "Error" sounds instead of using the Integrated sound card.
[02:42] <GodfatherofEire> bucky, that apply to xubuntu as well?
[02:42] <Xodiac13> i just installed wine and wine doors and for some reason it is not in the applications menu i just installed project64 is there anyway i can get it in the meny
[02:42] <julytwentyeight_> kewlbeans. I cant wait for fiberoptic
[02:42] <bucky> GodfatherofEire: of course
[02:43] <GodfatherofEire> bucky, good
[02:43] <GodfatherofEire> quick question though
[02:43] <bucky> GodfatherofEire: did you try those commands?
[02:43] <xcv> th0r, thanks. are daemons logged somewhere? i didn't find anything useful in system logs, but i didn't dive deep in some of the chatty logs
[02:43] <VCoolio> Frank83: there is a sound option for errors in 'power management' you can disable
[02:43] <GodfatherofEire> not yet, I just didnt remember what they were or if they existed at all
[02:43] <sh4d0wz> Question: Why when I try to burn disc using gnome baker i get this? :-( /dev/sr0: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0
[02:43] <mumblee> I am having a really difficult time getting my mouse to work in ubuntu jaunty. I have blueman installed but it doesnt seem to do anything.
[02:43] <th0r> Frank83: yeah...check the Sound events on the devices tab. I think if you change that you might solve your problems
[02:44] <th0r> Frank83: sometime 'autodetect' isn't quite right
[02:44] <mechtech> sh4d0wz: DVD+R or DVD-R?
[02:44] <b33r> Hello I'm trying to install nvidia latest drivers from nvidia website on ubuntu 8.10 after I finish installing and try to start x I get this error (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module
[02:44] <sh4d0wz> dvd-r
[02:44] <sh4d0wz> should I choose option burn idc
[02:44] <sh4d0wz> disc*
[02:44] <sh4d0wz> or the image one
[02:44] <dewc> Frank83: are you talking about the beep that it makes if you, say hit delete when there's nothing to delete?
[02:44] <chauncellor> b33r, did you do a manual install, or a ppa install?
[02:44] <colloguy> in sleep.sh, why do they do "[ x$ACPI_SLEEP != xtrue ]" as opposed to "[ $ACPI_SLEEP != true ]" ? What's the point of sticking 'x' in front of everything?
[02:45] <yeahuyean> hi, has anyone else noticed that jaunty is kinda slow?
[02:45] <Frank83> Th0r. Yep. That was it. The "Play Alert Sound" makes the funny PC speaker sound.
[02:45] <b33r> chauncellor, manual install
[02:45] <sh4d0wz> jaunty = fine for me
[02:45] <th0r> xcv: each daemon is logged in /var/log/messages at startup, and I think in dmesg also. You can also see what daemons are running with ps ax
[02:45] <Xodiac13> i need some help i just installed wine and wine doors but its not showing up in the applications menu
[02:45] <Frank83> dewc. Yes, That was the sound.
[02:45] <chauncellor> b33r, which package did you use? Did you use the one with 0, 1, or 2 at the end?
[02:45] <mechtech> sh4d0wz: burn image is for putting an ISO onto a disk, so choose that if that's what you're doing
[02:46] <GodfatherofEire> bucky, can it remove stuff from the distro too?
[02:46] <Frank83> Thanks for the help guys!
[02:46] <dewc> Frank83: ok. if you found your solution, I will save mine :)
[02:46] <sh4d0wz> im tryna burn windows xp sp3 iso
[02:46] <sh4d0wz> so do that?
[02:46] <th0r> but Frank83 how will you know now when you make a mistake!
[02:46] <GodfatherofEire> I just need to make a nice, lightweight live CD with diagnostic tools
[02:46] <pw-toxic> hi, i have set up my ubuntu (desktop version) as a NAT, fileserver, dhcp and DNS server... now i want to do some port forwarding, and im looking for an interface like ip cop... or anything simliar
[02:46] <mechtech> sh4d0wz: yes
[02:46] <b33r> chauncellor, you mean like that pkg2.run ?? what does that mean?
[02:46] <sh4d0wz> YAY
[02:46] <sh4d0wz> fuck ubuntu!
[02:46] <sh4d0wz> im going back to windowz!
[02:46] <pw-toxic> i have full access to this pc.. with desktop environment
[02:47] <chauncellor> sh4d0wz, great, please leave, then
[02:47] <sh4d0wz> :D
[02:47] <pw-toxic> sh4d0wz, have fun ;)
[02:47] <sh4d0wz> I dont have to if i dont want to!
[02:47] <Frank83> Th0r. Don't worry about it :-) My mistakes are easily noticeable since they always involve me completely messing up the Kernel. :-)
[02:47] <chauncellor> b33r, you should use the 0 package
[02:47] <zherkehzi> We don't want you anyway. Have fun getting viruses
[02:47] <xcv> th0r, thanks. i didn't install it as a daemon -- just invoked it once as a normal foreground process in a terminal window, and closed it with ctrl-c when done, still, it was a server -- hoping it left a 'trail' somewhere
[02:47] <sh4d0wz> I STAY IN HERE ALL DAY FOOl
[02:47] <chauncellor> sh4d0wz, until you're kicked
[02:47] <b33r> chauncellor, what's the difference? what does the numbers stand for?
[02:47] <sh4d0wz> Nah if your smart enough you can prevent getting viruses
[02:47] <th0r> Frank83: every Python-ite knows you need 'the machine that goes 'beep'
[02:47] <Xodiac13> THANKS FOR THE HELP APPRECIATE IT
[02:47] <sh4d0wz> linux= for scary paranoid nubs
[02:47] <sh4d0wz> LOOOOOOOOOOl
[02:47] <chauncellor> b33r, I'm not sure, but 0 is the one recommended for compatibility reasons, I believe
[02:47] <sh4d0wz> Im out
[02:47] <sh4d0wz> piece
[02:47] <pw-toxic> sh4d0wz, on ubuntu you dont need to be smart if you dont want to get any virus ;)
[02:48] <zherkehzi> If your smart enough you can keep yourself from getting the flu.
[02:48] <chauncellor> b33r, I always use the 0
[02:48] <zherkehzi> (sarcasam)
[02:48] <tony_> I have an ATI 9200 pro, dual monitors, can anyone help me enable compiz/desktop effects? thanks
[02:48] <al_x_> is this place for discussion of 9.04 only?
[02:48] <GodfatherofEire> bucky, can it remove stuff too? I just need to make a nice, lightweight live CD with diagnostic tools
[02:48] <Frank83> th0r, You've got a point there.
[02:48] <GodfatherofEire> al_x_ not at all, previous distros accepted too
[02:48] <al_x_> i want to know if i should install karmic or wait a few weeks/months
[02:48] <pw-toxic> al_x, this channel is named #ubuntu .. so i suppose its for all ubuntu related questions ;)
[02:49] <b33r> chauncellor, nvidia website gives me the link to package2 when I choose my card
[02:49] <yeahuyean> does anyone know of a way to change the text of my gnome bar menus?
[02:49] <danbhfive> al_x_: wait, wait till it is released
[02:49] <dave__> need help setting up a dial-up connection for a friend...
[02:49] <yeahuyean> the color of the text i mean
[02:49] <funkywds> al_x_: well, karmic is alpha, so if you're comfortable with that...
[02:49] <chauncellor> b33r, oh, maybe you should listen to them instead... :D
[02:49] <Xodiac13> can i please get some help serioulsy or am i going to get ignored the whole time dang
[02:49] <Frank83> al_x, you might want to stick with the stable release for a bit.
[02:49] <tony_> Can someone help me configure my ati card for dual monitors + compiz?
[02:49] <b33r> chauncellor, lol...
[02:49] <funkywds> Xodiac13: what's you question
[02:50] <mechtech> Xodiac13: what's up?
[02:50] <chauncellor> b33r, did you remove all nvidia modules before the manual install?
[02:50] <casey> who know how to us mysql?
[02:51] <dave__> I have gnome.ppp on my pc, and my thumb drive... how do I get it on his laptop
[02:51] <Xodiac13> funkywds: sorry i just installed and it didnt show up in the menu i looked in applications and it wasnt there the last time i installed it it was in the menu and now its gone i tried looking at the edit menu option and still not there
[02:51] <bucky> GodfatherofEire: did you try those commands?
[02:51] <b33r> chauncellor, I just deactivated the old driver
[02:51] <GodfatherofEire> bucky, not yet, but I need to know if it can remove things from the disc image as well
[02:51] <funkywds> Xodiac13: wine and wine doors?
[02:51] <chauncellor> b33r, you should go to synaptic, search "nvidia", and remove all the modules, then install the package again through the oh-so-painful process
[02:51] <bucky> GodfatherofEire: of course
[02:51] <Xodiac13> funkywds: yes
[02:52] <funkywds> Xodiac13: oh, sry guy, i don't have experience with wine.  never needed it, since i'm coming from the mac side of things
[02:52] <bucky> GodfatherofEire: do you have jaunty installed?
[02:52] <al_x_> is anyone here using karmic yet?
[02:52] <al_x_> i usually wait for betas
[02:52] <Xodiac13> funkywds: do you know anyone that does and that can help me i appreciate you trying to help man
[02:52] <tony_> Can someone please help me with my ati card and dual monitors? thanks.
[02:52] <mechtech> Xodiac13: have you rebooted?
[02:52] <al_x_> i was just wondering if there's any killer new features
[02:53] <GodfatherofEire> bucky, yeah, but my copy is disconnected from the network atm
[02:53] <GodfatherofEire> refusin to connect to the WPA2 network I have here
[02:53] <Xodiac13> mechtech: yes and i also reinstalled it not unless i need to reboot again
[02:53] <Frank83> Xodiac13: Your problem is Wine related?
[02:53] <chauncellor> dave__, you still there?
[02:53] <bucky> GodfatherofEire: you know there's a ton of lightweight live cd distros out there.. most notably wolvix
[02:53] <mechtech> Xodiac13: prolly not, but yet worth a try
[02:53] <Xodiac13> Frank83: i installed it and its not in the menu i reinstalled it and also reboot my computer
[02:53] <Pici> al_x_: Karmic discussion can be found in #ubuntu+1, #ubuntu is for current releases only.
[02:54] <chauncellor> damn
[02:54] <GodfatherofEire> bucky: I was originally gonna do an LFS with the LUK or CoLinux, but I decided against that
[02:54] <mechtech> Xodiac13: /join #wine
[02:54] <Xodiac13> mechtech: when i installed it the first time i rebooted and then it still wasnt there and so i reinstalled and its still not there
[02:54] <mechtech> just join the wine room
[02:54] <DaZ> mechtech, winehq
[02:55] <mechtech> try them...I had to
[02:55] <Frank83> Xodiac13: You can check if it is installed by typing "wine uninstaller" in terminal. About the Menu, have you checked in System - Preferences - Main menu?
[02:55] <mechtech> sorry...see daz's post to me...winehq
[02:55] <Xodiac13> Frank83: yes but i will check again and i typed in wine-doors and that works
[02:56] <mechtech> !wine | Xodiac13
[02:56] <GodfatherofEire> ok, pardon me if I'm making an idiots suggestion, but Xodiac13, have you ran alacarte and seen if it might just not have been enabled in there?
[02:56] <GodfatherofEire> 'cause I dont know WINE too well, so, I'm just taking a shot in the dark
[02:56] <DaZ> !virtualizers
[02:57] <Xodiac13> GodfatherofEire: uh alacarte no
[02:57] <GodfatherofEire> well, alacarte is the command, Menu Editor is what its called under prefs
[02:57] <mechtech> Xodiac13: why not join the wine room?  /join #winehq
[02:57] <Frank83> GodfatherofEire, sometimes the idiot suggestions, aren't stupid at all.
[02:58] <Xodiac13> GodfatherofEire: uh o okay yeah i even checked the menu editor
[02:58] <GodfatherofEire> tried gconfeditor?
[02:58] <mechtech> you can lead a horse to water
[02:58] <chauncellor> Anyone else hate it when people start ranting on about how they hate Ubuntu or any other distro?
[02:58] <Phantal1> If a cron job is setup to run every minute and the previous cron job took a lot longer than usual, will it blindly try to continue running more instances of the job, or wait until the previous instance completes?
[02:59] <th0r> GodfatherofEire: I wouldn't put too much stock in alacarte...it doesn't work very well
[02:59] <GodfatherofEire> only distro i cant stand is a broken one
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> chauncellor:  people always rant.. its easier then actually learning the tools..
[02:59] <````bulldogg> chauncellor, I have tried a lot of them... don't hate any.. but do like some better than others
[02:59] <Frank83> Wow Donald Shimoda. Someone has been reading Richard Bach
[03:00] <GodfatherofEire> th0r, yeah, why I was thinkin maybe check gconfeditor, or just unhide the folders in the home directory
[03:00] <chauncellor> No, it's not that if it doesn't work, it's that they come in and expect everything to suit their needs. If it doesn't work for them, I'm sorry, use Windows, but please respect the hard work that's been put into all this!
[03:00] <Godzuki> hello.
[03:00] <GodfatherofEire> Also, one thing I noticed, couldnt wine act as a sort of forkbomb, seeing as how the path to the ~/.wine folder is, how do you say.... recursive?
[03:00] <axisys> I tried to sudo cat /dev/cdrw > movie.iso I am getting I/O error.. what could be the reason >
[03:01] <Zxcvb> are there any known issues with a tickless kernel?
[03:01] <mechtech> looks like Xodiac quit rather than try winehq
[03:01] <funkywds> Godzuki: hello
[03:01] <````bulldogg> does anyone know how to view a m4v file in ubuntu?
[03:01] <Frank83> Chauncellor, I do understand what you mean. Sometimes it's just lack of patience.
[03:01] <mechtech> *shakes head*
[03:01] <Godzuki> trying to get WG111T wifi usb to work in jaunty.
[03:01] <th0r> chauncellor: I don't want it to work as good as windows. This is my geek escape...my haven away from the marching morons...and I want it to stay that way
[03:01] <GodfatherofEire> Like, put an exe in there that runs itself which would then in theory cause the system to run out of memory?
[03:01] <mumblee> how can i turn my bluetooth on?
[03:01] <chauncellor> th0r, But I do :)
[03:01] <chauncellor> th0r, I think of Ubuntu as the next Firefox
[03:02] <tony_> Can anyone please help me setup my ATI card properly?
[03:02] <chauncellor> The first time I booted up Ubuntu about three years ago, I was greeted with a broken display manager :)
[03:03] <chauncellor> And now I've been running it with hardly any problems on multiple machines
[03:03] <th0r> chauncellor: the first time I booted up linux there wasn'
[03:03] <Frank83> Th0r, I'm just happy that Ubuntu released me from the shackles of Firewalling, Paranoid Virus Scanning and Mind breaking Disk defragment
[03:03] <````bulldogg> brb kernel update
[03:03] <th0r> t a display manager
[03:03] <GodfatherofEire> Is there any way to set the network manager to have independent wireless options for WPA and WPA2?
[03:03] <GodfatherofEire> Cause its being a real PITA right now, and is refusing to connect to my WPA2 network
[03:04] <th0r> GodfatherofEire: I ended up dumping networkmangler and installling wicd
[03:04] <GodfatherofEire> never heard of it
[03:04] <th0r> GodfatherofEire: it isn't quite as polished as network mangler, but it works
[03:04] <th0r> GodfatherofEire: even does static ip
[03:04] <tony_> Can someone help me configure my ati card for dual monitors + compiz?
[03:05] <chauncellor> I've never had a problem with Networkmanager, but I've heard lots of stories. Guess I'm lucky
[03:05] <Um_cara_qualquer> excuse me, i burned a cd audio project a few days ago and somehow, it didn't worked on the cd player of my car, what are the configurations to burn it right?
[03:05] <th0r> GodfatherofEire: but if you want to try it....let me know and I will pastebin something that will save yo usome headaches
[03:05] <Um_cara_qualquer> i used k3b
[03:05] <chauncellor> Um_cara_qualquer, are you sure your car can play burned CDs?
[03:05] <Um_cara_qualquer> yes
[03:05] <GodfatherofEire> th0r, does it allow for different connections to WPA and WPA2 networks, instead of just showing up as WPA/WPA2
[03:05] <GodfatherofEire> ?
[03:05] <mumblee> HOw can i find out what module i need to load for my bluetooth?
[03:05] <Um_cara_qualquer> all my cds are burned
[03:06] <sebsebseb> Um_cara_qualquer: K3B :)
[03:06] <Um_cara_qualquer> ;)
[03:06] <chauncellor> Um_cara_qualquer, hm, I'm not familiar with K3B as I don't use it, sorry
[03:06] <th0r> GodfatherofEire: haven't used it for that, don't believe in wpa. But it shows wpa1/2 so I don't think they are separate
[03:06] <Um_cara_qualquer> ok
[03:06] <Um_cara_qualquer> anyone else can help me?
[03:07] <th0r> GodfatherofEire: but it shows a separate entry for each network, if that is what you mean
[03:07] <sebsebseb> Um_cara_qualquer: an audio CD is an audio CD, it should just work as long as you burnt it as one, and  you got a CD player
[03:07] <th0r> sebsebseb: not quite....a lot of car stereos are picky about CD-R and CD+R
[03:07] <chauncellor> Um_cara_qualquer, does the cd work anywhere else?
[03:07] <GodfatherofEire> th0r, thats the problem, the modem/router is set up to /only/ use WPA2 connections, not either or, and Ubuntu keeps reading and sending authentication for an interchangable network
[03:07] <Um_cara_qualquer> what do u mean by burnt it as one
[03:08] <joseph> Use infrarecorder.
[03:08] <chauncellor> th0r, right, my sister's car is really picky
[03:08] <Um_cara_qualquer> didn't tried it anywhere else
[03:08] <sebsebseb> th0r: that makes sense, to make sure people buy proper CD's
[03:08] <GodfatherofEire> waaaaiit.... my router allows for a guest network
[03:08]  * GodfatherofEire proceeds to headdesk
[03:08] <Lucifer_Cat> how do i delete the home directory of a deleted user?
[03:08] <sebsebseb> Um_cara_qualquer: look at what  th0r put
[03:08] <chauncellor> Lucifer_Cat, command line or graphical?
[03:09] <Lucifer_Cat> chauncellor: on command line it told me permission denied.
[03:09] <bruenig> Lucifer_Cat: rm -rf /home/directory/of/deleted/user
[03:09] <Lucifer_Cat> wait. sudo. lemme try sudo.
[03:09] <Lucifer_Cat> alright thanks bruenig
[03:09] <chauncellor> Lucifer_Cat, you're going to have to put -R after rm. so it'll be "sudo rm -R FOLDER"
[03:09] <null> Question:  Does the ubuntu install CD offer full hard drive encryption on installation?  using dm-crypt?
[03:10] <Lucifer_Cat> ok, R or rf?
[03:10] <chauncellor> either
[03:10] <Um_cara_qualquer> so...should i buy cds instead try to use ubuntu's programs?!
[03:10] <chauncellor> Um_cara_qualquer, if it makes you that much more legal, yes ;)
[03:11] <Lucifer_Cat> ok got it. thanks chauncellor and bruenig
[03:11] <chauncellor> *is not a fan of pirated music*
[03:11] <Um_cara_qualquer> humm... and if i don't wanna make it legal?
[03:11] <Godzuki> Need some help with ndiswrapper.
[03:11] <bruenig> chauncellor: protip, it sounds the same
[03:11] <th0r> chauncellor: then I won't tell  you about 'streamripper'
[03:11] <funkywds> chauncellor: pirated music is music
[03:11] <libtech> aaargh
[03:12] <bruenig> sebsebseb: hi
[03:12] <Godzuki> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper says FATAL: module ndiswrapper not found.
[03:12] <unixxx> Hey guys, anyone know wheter I should be using /dev/md_d0 or /dev/md/d0 as the device for my RAID array?
[03:12] <Godzuki> even after its been installed by synaptic.
[03:12] <chauncellor> funkywds, ROMs are games. So what's your point? :)
[03:12] <sebsebseb> bruenig: hi
[03:12] <bruenig> sebsebseb: hi
[03:12] <funkywds> chauncellor: point?  who said i had a point?
[03:13] <chauncellor> funkywds, forgive me, I thought you were trying to make one. I guess you were just writing nonsense into the textbar
[03:13] <libtech> burn
[03:13] <Frank83> This debate is getting interesting-er by the second.
[03:13] <funkywds> chauncellor: what, like pirated music sounds different?  it's not like the difference between butter and margarine
[03:13] <funkywds> chauncellor: and there's no need to be rude
[03:13] <libtech> i cant believe its not butter
[03:13] <th0r> Godzuki: try 'sudo depmod -a' then try the modprobe again
[03:14] <joeZiehmer> Is it good to use Ubuntu 8.04 on an old iMac 500?
[03:14] <chauncellor> funkywds, you're comparing mp3s and cds. You can get both legally and illegally, just like your types of cooking materials
[03:14] <Godzuki> th0r: same thing.
[03:14] <unixxx> I'm not sure whether /dev/md_d0 is symlinked to /dev/md/d0 or vice verse.
[03:14] <funkywds> chauncellor: and if you want meandering nonsense, i suggest you listen to sarah palin's quitter speach/rant
[03:14] <joeZiehmer> The reason why is I'm using an old iMac 500
[03:14] <funkywds> chauncellor: i'm not comparing media, i'm comparing pirated vs non-pirated
[03:15] <chauncellor> funkywds, non-sequitur, I'm not interested in politics,
[03:15] <th0r> Godzuki: I would try uninstalling ndiswrapper and then reinstalling it
[03:15] <funkywds> chauncellor: your interest is not what defines a non-sequiter
[03:15] <Godzuki> th0r: how would I do that?
[03:15] <bruenig> !offtopic | funkywds
[03:15] <funkywds> oh, you're kidding
[03:15] <chauncellor> funkywds, you're comparing brands of items. It doesn't come close to comparing legality.
[03:15] <th0r> Godzuki: in synpatic, just mark it for uninstall then click apply, then mark it for install and click apply again
[03:16] <funkywds> chauncellor: it's called a metaphore
[03:16] <libtech> i think you guys might be off topic?
[03:16] <bruenig> !patience | funkywds
[03:16] <Frank83> Chauncellor, I sense you're a law student?
[03:16] <chauncellor> funkywds, No, I believe it's called a metaphor, I don't quite know what a metaphore is
[03:16] <chauncellor> Frank83, no, I'm just a humble musician
[03:16] <libtech> wow gai
[03:16] <bruenig> !ohmy | libtech
[03:17] <Frank83> Chauncellor, That was my second guess.
[03:17] <rww> funkywds, chauncellor: how about you both take the offtopicness (with the exception of the politics) to #ubuntu-offtopic or private message, please.
[03:17] <libtech> !lolwut
[03:17] <funkywds> chauncellor: the legalilty of music does not effect it's sound, quality, or any other aspect but the legality of it
[03:17] <zherkehzi> !what's up?
[03:17] <bruenig> !offtopic | funkywds
[03:17] <funkywds> chauncellor: that was my point, which you missed fantastically
[03:17] <libtech> funkywds: thats pretty obvious, /debate
[03:17] <chauncellor> funkywds, precisely why your butter/margarine made no since. The legality of it does not affect the ingredients or composition
[03:18] <chauncellor> libtech, right
[03:18] <chauncellor> funkywds, I'm sorry
[03:18] <Godzuki> th0r: i reinstalled, modprobe still pulls up FATAL
[03:18] <Frank83> Funkywds, I wouldn't debate about pirated music with a musician.
[03:18] <chauncellor> funkywds, let's just drop it.
[03:18] <someone1224> i get this error : ImportError: No module named wxPython.wx
[03:18] <funkywds> lets
[03:18] <bruenig> someone1224: you need the module names wxPython.wx
[03:18] <bruenig> named*
[03:18] <th0r> Godzuki: I wonder if it fails because you don't yet have any drivers installed?
[03:18] <libtech> chauncellor: you were right the first time, it is let's
[03:19] <th0r> Godzuki: I think it should load anyway, but not sure
[03:19]  * funkywds rolls eyes
[03:19] <chauncellor> libtech: I'm not following
[03:19] <Frank83> th0r, doesn't he needs to use ndiswrapper -i to check if there is a driver installed?
[03:19] <libtech> nevermind lol
[03:19] <chauncellor> libtech, sorry, I'm tired.
[03:19] <libtech> i had too much to drink
[03:19] <Godzuki> th0r: if I sudo ndiswrapper -i it lists them both as installed
[03:19] <libtech> later
[03:19] <Godzuki> th0r: with one having hardware as well.
[03:20] <th0r> Frank83: that was where I was headed...but no luck <smile>
[03:20] <zherkehzi> getting in an argument in a linux irc server.
[03:20] <chauncellor> libtech, oh, I'm not leaving, I'm just having a hard time with coherence :)
[03:20] <zherkehzi> rofl
[03:20] <bruenig> !offtopic | chauncellor
[03:20] <chauncellor> zherkehzi, is there any other use for it?
[03:20] <Skware> !stop | bruenig
[03:20] <Frank83> Thor, He he I understand. I had a couple of battles with ndiswrapper myself.
[03:20] <th0r> Godzuki: to 'ps ax | grep ndiswrapper' maybe it is already loaded
[03:20] <bruenig> oh no!
[03:21] <Raydiation> is there a way to tell the packagemanager to uninstall the package by just removing it from the apt db?
[03:21] <Raydiation> i cant remove one package because the uninstall script fails
[03:21] <Godzuki> th0r: 4902 pts/0     S+    0:00 grep ndiswrapper
[03:21] <someone1224> bruenig, >>> print sys.path
[03:21] <someone1224> ['', '/usr/local/lib/python26.zip', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/plat-linux2', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/lib-tk', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/lib-old', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages']
[03:21] <bruenig> Raydiation: delete the uninstall script, it is located in /var
[03:21] <Raydiation> bruenig: ty
[03:22] <bruenig> Raydiation: do locate "*prerm" or some such, you should see the correct one
[03:22] <th0r> Godzuki: nope...not loaded yet if that is all you got
[03:22] <th0r> Godzuki: jeez...getting old...sorry. 'lsmod | grep ndiswrapper'
[03:22] <Raydiation> bruenig: does ubuntu automatically start updatedb?
[03:23] <Godzuki> th0r: it just typed it then made a new command line
[03:23] <Sergeant_Pony> on my laptop, I'm running 9.04, I have it check automatically for updates... it does not tell me there are updates unless I check manually. Can I fix this?
[03:24] <bruenig> Raydiation: in the cron
[03:24] <Raydiation> wow nice
[03:24] <Godzuki> th0r: it would just act like all i did was press enter
[03:24] <th0r> Godzuki: it should look like this....steve@mother:~$ lsmod | grep ndiswrapper
[03:24] <th0r> Godzuki: jeez...am I getting old! ndiswrapper           193436  0
[03:24] <th0r> Godzuki: ok...not installed yet.
[03:24] <th0r> Godzuki: or not loaded yet
[03:25] <Godzuki> th0r: okay, i thought it was.
[03:25] <jethro> when i try to open an .avi file with vlc it just disappears, why is this happening?
[03:25] <th0r> Godzuki: ok....do you have find-utils installed?
[03:26] <Godzuki> th0r: uh... I don't know.
[03:26] <th0r> Godzuki: try this....but I don't think it installs by default 'locate ndiswrapper | grep modules'
[03:27] <Godzuki> th0r: /lib/mod/2.6.28-11-generic/kernel/ubuntu/ndiswrapper  then it also has all of that plus /ndiswrapper.ko