[12:55] <SeaCalf_> I mean when i edit and comment out sudo gedit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattented-upgrades . Will it disable the annoying background upgrades ?
[12:56] <hitsujiTMO> casual_boot_: whats with the "\". they look invalid.
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> casual_boot_  worked on a different machine with the same installation medium? if zo, it's hardware related, i guess
[12:56] <lawr> When I done dd if=/dev/sdc of=ubuntu.iso ; sync it made the iso file 1.9GB in size?
[12:56] <lawr> I'm on Debian
[12:56] <lawr> it hasn't written to /dev/sdc device either
[12:56] <casual_boot> MonkeyDust: no, on the same machine, with different HD, where was installed 12.04 LTS 32-bit
[12:56] <lawr> just bloated the iso image
[12:57] <OerHeks> SeaCalf_, why not disable it in softwarecenter > edit > sources > updates ?
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> casual_boot  is it 32bit hardware? if zo, you cannot install 64bit on it
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> if so*
[12:58] <casual_boot> And now on 64-bit and kernel 3.5.0-26, not working.. It is 64-bit hardware. And I can boot with only one memmap= line but not with 2 memmap lines in GRUB2
[12:59] <casual_boot> it is, MonkeyDust
[12:59] <SeaCalf_> OerHeks its already disabled there. But still iftop shows this domain ftp.heanet.ie downloading things and its alot of things
[12:59] <maxiaojun> can i change color depth without changing Xorg.conf?
[13:00] <casual_boot> hitsujiTMO: that was neede on 12.04 GRUB to work. And it is still accepted for first memmap=
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> casual_boot  and is it *supposed* to work with two such lines?
[13:00] <SeaCalf_> Every 30 minutes it starts to download a ton of stuff i never asked for
[13:00] <casual_boot> MonkeyDust: it used to work on 12.04, just fine...
[13:00] <OerHeks> SeaCalf_, debian is not supported here, i thought you were asking about ubuntu
[13:00] <julle157> join #AnimeNSK
[13:01] <koell> !seen jono
[13:01] <SeaCalf_> OerHeks what have debian got to do with this ?
[13:01] <OerHeks> SD
[13:01] <OerHeks> SeaCalf_, as that adress is a debian mirror, isn it?
[13:02] <SeaCalf_> OerHeks i dont know those things , i just want that mirror gone from iftop
[13:03] <MaazZ> yo
[13:03] <MaazZ> i want a hack program for xubuntu
[13:03] <diverdude> hello, when i try to install ubuntu 13.10 64 bit DE from usb stick it just hangs after i press "i don't want to connect to internet right now" during installation. what is happening?
[13:03] <OerHeks> SeaCalf_, ubuntu does not use that server to download tons of whatever, ask in #debian howto solv that
[13:03] <SeaCalf_> OerHeks ok ty
[13:04] <hitsujiTMO> casual_boot: accoring to https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt    it's prob more like:  memmap=0x8000000$0x10000000 and memmap=0x8000000$0x30000000
[13:04] <hitsujiTMO> !hack | maazz
[13:04] <hitsujiTMO> !hacking | maazz
[13:05] <Munster> diverdude,wifi ? if so you need the internet to install some of the packages, ethernet just connects automatically
[13:05] <hitsujiTMO> MaazZ: not something thats supported here
[13:05] <MaazZ> no worries
[13:05] <diverdude> Munster, sure...i am not choosing anything actively...i just click next
[13:05] <diverdude> Munster, but it hangs anyway
[13:06] <maxiaojun> can i change color depth without changing Xorg.conf?
[13:07] <Munster> diverdude, theubiquity installer is active , it needs the 'net
[13:07] <diverdude> Munster, ok, hwo to deactivate? How to prevent hanging?
[13:11] <Munster> diverdude, you can't, but this might help http://www.makeuseof.com/answers/install-update-ubuntu-internet-connection/
[13:12] <pseudo0815> Hello! I have a question. Could someone tell me briefly or give me keyword to find in google, why i getting a lot of message (e.g. Gtk-Warning: gtk_widget_size_allocate) if i start in terminal a gui application without e.g. "gksu -u <user>" command?!
[13:13] <TJ-> diverdude: Munster: I've seen that, it's annoying... despite unchecking "Install 3rd party drivers..." it actually tries to pull them in, and does hang (timing out) because it can't connect to the archives.
[13:14] <Munster> TJ-, ok thanks for the heads up
[13:14] <diverdude> TJ-, i even did uncheck that and also chose do not connect to internet
[13:14] <diverdude> and still it hangs
[13:14] <diverdude> im gonna try linux mint instead..maybe they have an installer that works :)
[13:15] <Munster> diverdude, doubt it
[13:15] <SeaCalf_> OerHeks #debian tells me: "tell them that ftp.heanet.ie is not a debian mirror, and then try asking for help again ?"
[13:15] <TJ-> diverdude: which Ubuntu version is that, I thought it'd been fixed
[13:15] <diverdude> TJ-, 1310 DE
[13:15] <diverdude> 64bit
[13:15] <Munster> whynot connect, diverdude?
[13:15] <Layke> Prepare for som e silly questions.. Does 14.04 come out in April?.. Also what will the difference be between 12.04 and 14.04? Like, when I have had 13.10, I don't notice any differences between 12.04 when using it?
[13:16] <OerHeks> SeaCalf_, lolz, open http://ftp.heanet.ie/ and read again
[13:16] <diverdude> Munster, because it will not connect...it hangs nomatter what i choose
[13:16] <TJ-> diverdude: I'll make a note to revisit the bug-report and ensure the patch is in Trusty
[13:16] <themill> OerHeks: it's also a mirror for just about everything else (which is what the discussion was about)
[13:17] <hitsujiTMO> OerHeks: ftp.heanet.ie mirrors ubuntu and many other distros
[13:17] <TJ-> Munster: If the PC needs additional hacking to bring up network drivers, the installer fails due to this, it isn't supposed to happen. The only installer that *requires* network is the mini.iso
[13:17] <SeaCalf_> OerHeks #debian keeps telling me to go ask #ubuntu , since i'm using it
[13:17] <Munster> diverdude, then check the image with md5sum, it might be corrupt
[13:17] <hitsujiTMO> OerHeks: ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu/
[13:19] <TJ-> OerHeks: SeaCalf_ see http://mirrors.ubuntu.com/IE.txt
[13:19] <Munster> TJ-, yes the minimal is the way for him
[13:19] <SeaCalf_> I just want to disable ftp://ftp.heanet.ie so i can work in peace :(
[13:20] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: Your PC is connecting to that server to check for and fetch Ubuntu updates, because the PC has determined it is closed/fastest Ubuntu archive mirror to you (network-wise)
[13:21] <hitsujiTMO> SeaCalf_: did you tell the installer you were in Ireland instead of South Africa?
[13:21] <SeaCalf_> TJ- yes , but i want to manually check for updates , and all automatic updates are already disabled
[13:22] <Munster> diverdude, tj correction,  not the way
[13:22] <SeaCalf_> hitsujiTMO i chose South Africa at the installer
[13:22] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: Which specific process is connecting to that site? "sudo netstat -tpa" will help you identify it
[13:24] <SeaCalf_> Tj- ftp.heanet.ie , comes up every 30 minutes or so , i had to disconnect internet earlier to stop it
[13:24] <SeaCalf_> Should i do "sudo netstat -tpa" when it pops up again
[13:24] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: Try to capture the name/command-line of the process making the connection, then we can help
[13:25] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: Yes, and also, once you have the process's ID, immediately do "ps -efly | grep $PID" to grab the command-line including any arguments
[13:26] <SeaCalf_> Tj- ok i will try that
[13:26] <SeaCalf_> looks confusing but i will try figuring it out to get the correct info when it comes back again
[13:27] <b1gw0rm> hello everyone
[13:28] <diverdude> Munster, hmm well...linux mint is able to connect to internet...but it also hangs at same place during install
[13:28] <diverdude> TJ-, ^
[13:29] <b1gw0rm> how do you hide your ip and dns in IRC without asking an admin
[13:29] <b1gw0rm> i cant connect with my VPN
[13:31] <hitsujiTMO> b1gw0rm: thats not an ubuntu support question. ask for a cloak in #freenode
[13:31] <Munster> diverdude, how old is this 13.10 version , is this a recent image ?
[13:32] <diverdude> Munster, just downloaded it today
[13:32] <Munster> hmm, could be a new bug then
[13:36] <Munster> diverdude, I recall having ubiquity hang so i used "no acpi" at the install or try options page , and that worked
[13:36] <otherj> guys, what's the most lightweight package i can install for sending mail from a cronjob? mailutils wants to install a full on mta
[13:36] <otherj> as does mut
[13:37] <benishor> bekks: thank you, fsck did the trick
[13:37] <benishor> I;m having another problem though, this time due to icu-tools vs icu-devtools conflict
[13:37] <yeats> diverdude: you can check /var/log/syslog in the installer environment to see what's going on when it hangs (may require you to "try ubuntu" before installing)
[13:37] <benishor> I'm on 13.10 and apparently dist-upgrade brought icu-devtools which conflicts with icu-tools
[13:38] <benishor> anybody managed to fix this?
[13:39] <hitsujiTMO> !info icu-devtools
[13:39] <yeats> otherj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mutt - see the "Installation" section
[13:40] <benishor> ubottu: as I said, a dist-upgrade brought it
[13:40] <hitsujiTMO> benishor: looks like you maybe using an unsupported ppa
[13:40] <mallet> Hi. Do you know a software to lock screen (like xlock) that would allow unlocking with a password other than the login password?
[13:40] <otherj> so, 'ssmtp'
[13:40] <otherj> thanks
[13:40] <_nedr> hello.. i added a private key (pem file ) using ssh-add.. now i want to remove it.. how to do it
[13:42] <zaitzev> ssh-add -d ?
[13:43] <benishor> !info icu-tools
[13:43] <krizoek> any open servers for tomboy out there?
[13:46] <_nedr> zaitzev thanks for reply will check it out
[13:46] <Babuc> exit
[13:47] <_nedr> zaitzev, i tried it it says bad key file
[13:48] <_nedr> Initially i added a key using ssh-add key.pem
[13:48] <_nedr> Now  i tried running ssh-add -d key.pem it says "Bad key file key.pem"
[13:48] <casual_boot> hitsujiTMO: MonkeyDust in 12.10 that this is, 64bit, only first memmap= line is passed to kernel and only if "\" character is before "$". second memmap is ignored if it is on the end of the line. If passed without"\" , then system sees just 128Megs of Ram, and using parameter without second part, after "$". Is is GRUB2 I suppose, that is passing wrong characters to kernel.  If you put ...
[13:48] <casual_boot> ...meminfo= lines in /etc/defualt/grub , under GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" " and do update-grub, you get some unholly mess in the place of "$" character in GRUB kernel boot command line. (like some path or something)
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> casual_boot  what are you trying to accomplish?
[13:50] <casual_boot> MonkeyDust: booting without using 2 memory ranges on 12.10 64-bit
[13:51] <hitsujiTMO> casual_boot: ok, so you were escaping the $ in the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX string. you were still missing the $ from the second memmap
[13:51] <TJ-> If anyone see's SeaCalf_ return, please let him have this command to monitor for that heanet.ie connection: "  sudo watch -n 2 sh -c 'P=$(netstat -tnap | grep $(dig +short ftp.heanet.ie) | sed  "s|.*ESTABLISHED.\([[:digit:]]\{1,5\}\).*|\1|"); echo "PID=$P"; if [ ! -z "$P" ]; then ps -fly -p $P | tee -a /tmp/heanet.log; fi'   "
[13:52] <maxagaz> hello
[13:53] <maxagaz> anyone here ?
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> maxagaz  this is the ubuntu support channel
[13:55] <wolfybox> how would i set up a build (compiling) server?
[13:55] <casual_boot> hitsujiTMO: well, if by any means line without "\$" comes to GRUB before kernel, it freaks out and passes to kernel something that limits memomry to just 128MB, therefore, kernel can't see second part of memmap paramater. If just one memmap is put to kernel line with "\$", it boots. If there are 2 of memmap lines like that, it does not.
[13:56] <dyu> how to convert dsa key to rsa key?
[13:57] <Babuc> nick /babuc
[13:57] <hitsujiTMO> casual_boot: well the second memmap is malformed in its current state so ofcourse its not going to work
[13:57] <TJ-> dyu: Errr, not possible! The algorithms are different
[13:58] <casual_boot> hitsujiTMO: however I form second memmap= line it does not work.
[13:58] <dyu> TJ-: sorry. i meant dss
[13:59] <TJ-> casual_boot: In "/etc/default/grub" change the quotes to single, e.g.  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=' ' so the shell doesn't try to expand the $ inside the quotes as a variable
[13:59] <lazarus_> is there a simple way to cd to an external media device within a script ?
[14:01] <hitsujiTMO> lazarus_: cd /path/to/external/media/device       # does that not do it for you?
[14:01] <casual_boot> thanks TJ- that explains part of it
[14:02] <lazarus_> hitsujiTMO: im wondering if the device mount dir changes on a fresh install
[14:04] <lazarus_> hitsujiTMO: /dev/mmcblk0p1 found it hehe
[14:05] <casual_boot> TJ-: additional problem is that kernel does not get second parameter of memmap, e.g. second memory range not to use. It ignores it or does not boot when passed from GRUB2
[14:05] <lazarus_> ugh or not
[14:05] <hitsujiTMO> lazarus_: thats a block device. what exactly are you trying to do?
[14:07] <wolfybox> how would i set up a build (compiling) server?
[14:07] <lazarus_> hitsujiTMO: create a restore scirpt that mounts a usb drive and extracts backed up tar archives
[14:07] <TJ-> casual_boot: What does this show? "grep memmap /boot/grub/grub.cfg"  ?
[14:08] <TJ-> wolfybox: Do you mean for distcc?
[14:09] <wolfybox> TJ-: i compile using scons, so i want to set up my server to compile automatically from a git repository
[14:09] <dyu> trying again. how do i convert a ssh-dss public key to ssh-rsa?
[14:10] <lazarus_> hitsujiTMO: it might be a good idea to use UUID to do it
[14:10] <hitsujiTMO> lazarus_: ok, if its mounting the usb then you'd best scan the /dev/sdXY for unmounted partitions. Mount them to whatever dir you want, look for a signature that suggests its a backup, then extract the backup
[14:11] <hitsujiTMO> lazarus_: if its the same partition each time then yes using UUID from blkid would work.
[14:12] <linuxearth> hello ubuntu audience
[14:13] <linuxearth> how are you all today?
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> linuxearth  #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat
[14:14] <linuxearth> ahhhahahhaha
[14:14] <linuxearth> saying hi also?
[14:14] <linuxearth> lol
[14:18] <CavemanZipper> hey everyone, could use some help here
[14:18] <CavemanZipper> Ubuntu keeps giving me a blank screen after login
[14:18] <CavemanZipper> System program problem detected
[14:19] <CavemanZipper> I can see my wallpaper and cursor but everything else isn't there..
[14:19] <CavemanZipper> All this happened after I installed GNOME Shell and tried looging into it :|
[14:19] <CavemanZipper> any thoughts?
[14:19] <linuxearth> try KDE shell
[14:19] <CavemanZipper> OK..how do I go about that?..
[14:20] <CavemanZipper> I've been Google-ing the past 3 hours or so and trying all sorts of fixes but to no avail :(
[14:20] <CavemanZipper> so you guys are my last hope
[14:21] <linuxearth> man, try to go some pages on Google which are not the first page you search, means search results on pages like 6, 7, 8 also work!
[14:21] <CavemanZipper> Well I went till 3 and the search goes cold there :(
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> google for 3 hours on end?
[14:22] <dyu> CavemenZipper: what were you using before that?
[14:22] <CavemanZipper> I've purged gnome and reinstalled unity a couple of times
[14:22] <CavemanZipper> uhh...
[14:22] <CavemanZipper> I just installed the gnome shell, then though i'd try it out
[14:22] <linuxearth> why don't u install other DE?
[14:22] <hitsujiTMO> CavemanZipper: did you install gnome 3.10 from the ppa?
[14:22] <CavemanZipper> rebooted, selected gnome at the login, then now it won't get me anywhere
[14:23] <casual_boot> TJ-: /boot/grub/grub.cfg shows 2 memmap= lines , with "\&" in them , like put in e
[14:23] <lazarus_> as $HOME prints the users home dir regardless of username is there something simalair that will grab the username i.e $USER
[14:23] <casual_boot>  /etc/default/grub with ' '
[14:23] <CavemanZipper> oh I wouldn't know if it was ppa or not..
[14:23] <linuxearth> that's the error
[14:24] <hitsujiTMO> lazarus_: yes $USER
[14:24] <CavemanZipper> I'm pretty sure I just apt-getted it
[14:24] <linuxearth> ;)- you are not 100% sure
[14:24] <CavemanZipper> oh wait actually, if PPA is from the SOftware Center
[14:24] <CavemanZipper> then yes, I'm 100% sure that's what I DIDN'T do :3
[14:25] <hitsujiTMO> CavemanZipper: how exactly did you install gnome?
[14:25] <lazarus_> hitsujiTMO: i thought it might be that simple hehe thanks
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> CavemanZipper  from the software center or with a PPA?
[14:25] <SeaCalf_> TJ- i added a commented out to "${distro_id}:${distro_codename}-security"; ,which was uncommented in the file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades , where "Automatically upgrade packages from these (origin:archive) " section are. I will see if ftp.heanet.ie will still pop up now , if it does'nt i will do "sudo netstat -tpa" and "ps -efly | grep $PID" if it appears.
[14:26] <hitsujiTMO> CavemanZipper: can you pastebin the output of: apt-cache policy gnome-shell
[14:26] <TJ-> casual_boot: OK, remove the "\" prefix from the "$" in "/etc/default/grub" and it should generate it correctly with the nexy "update-grub"
[14:27] <TJ-> SeaCalf_ You can use this command to set-up a monitor for that heanet.ie connection: "  sudo watch -n 2 sh -c 'P=$(netstat -tnap | grep $(dig +short ftp.heanet.ie) | sed  "s|.*ESTABLISHED.\([[:digit:]]\{1,5\}\).*|\1|"); echo "PID=$P"; if [ ! -z "$P" ]; then ps -fly -p $P | tee -a /tmp/heanet.log; fi'   "
[14:27] <casual_boot> I can just now think that is some kind of 12.10/GRUB2 bug on 64bit, and kernel 3.5 , that you can not pass 2 memmap lilnes.  It is actually: ro rootflags=subvol=@ memmap=0x8000000\$0x10000000 memmap=0x8000000\$0x30000000 quiet splash $vt_handoff
[14:28] <casual_boot> TJ-: I tried it editing it before boot in grub2 menu without ' \& ' and it does not boot without it. But will try anyway
[14:28] <SeaCalf_> TJ- will that stop that domain or process ?
[14:30] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: No, it monitors every 2 seconds for any connection to ftp.heanet.ie and reports them, both to screen and to the log-file at "/tmp/heanet.log" so you let it run in a terminal and not have to watch the machine yourself
[14:30] <belgianguy> I'm setting up a Ubuntu 13.04 media server, and have hooked up my USB external hdd to it, but I don't see it in /media
[14:30] <CavemanZipper> Downloaded gnome shell, rebooted into it, got a blank screen and "System program problem detected", purged gnome shell and reinstalled Unity- still the same problem. Any ideas on fixing it?
[14:30] <belgianguy> do servers automount by default?
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  use sudo blkid to see where it is
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> CavemanZipper: can you pastebin the output of: apt-cache policy gnome-shell
[14:32] <belgianguy> MonkeyDust: thanks! :) found it: /dev/sdc1: LABEL="LaCie" UUID="6853-5BA9" TYPE="vfat"
[14:32] <belgianguy> so I have to manually mount it then?
[14:33] <SeaCalf_> TJ- ok i see. I tried that command and it says "No such file in directory" So i guess it will create it when ftp.heanet.ie pops up again
[14:35] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: That command shouldn't report anything like "No such file in directory". If it did, something was changed.
[14:35] <lazarus_> i ran chmod -x "script name" but the script is stored on external media does this prevent it being made executable
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> lazarus_: vfat doesn't support linux permissions
[14:36] <SeaCalf_> TJ- it says "No such file in directory" . I copied and pasted the command as you gave me
[14:37] <lazarus_> hitsujiTMO: is there a way around it?
[14:37] <hitsujiTMO> lazarus_: try /bin/bash /path/to/script
[14:38] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: Did you strip off the surrounding double-quote marks (before the 'sudo' and after the entire command) ?
[14:38] <SeaCalf_> TJ- i pasted like this    sudo watch -n 2 sh -c 'P=$(netstat -tnap | grep $(dig +short ftp.heanet.ie) | sed "s|.*ESTABLISHED.\([[:digit:]]\{1,5\}\).*|\1|"); echo "PID=$P"; if [ ! -z "$P" ]; then ps -fly -p $P | tee -a /tmp/heanet.log; fi'
[14:39] <lazarus_> hitsujiTMO: that works thanks
[14:39] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: Yes, that should be correct. It certainly works here without any warnings, strange.
[14:40] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Could you road-test this shell command string I've given SeaCalf_ ? See if you get the same warning/error he does?
[14:40] <SeaCalf_> TJ- every minute or so it says "No such file in directory"
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: dig, not found. SeaCalf_ have you installed: dnsutils
[14:42] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Ahhhh! thanks :)
[14:43] <SeaCalf_> hitsujiTMO no i have not
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> SeaCalf_: sudo apt-get install dnsutils                                 then retry the script
[14:45] <artium888> Hey everyone, does anyone know how to solve this :
[14:45] <artium888>  isc-dhcp-server : Depends: isc-dhcp-common (= 4.1.ESV-R4-0ubuntu5.5) but 4.1.ESV-R4-0ubuntu5.8 is to be installed
[14:46] <bekks> artium888: Install the version required.
[14:46] <artium888> bekks: so do i need to downgrade ?
[14:46] <artium888> bekks: the isc-dhcp-common
[14:46] <bekks> artium888: No, since you didnt install a version yet.
[14:47] <artium888> bekks: i have the latest version
[14:47] <artium888> bekks: isc-dhcp-common is already the newest version.
[14:47] <TJ-> artium888: Have you done "sudo apt-get update" followed by "sudo apt-get upgrade" ?
[14:47] <artium888> TJ-: first upgrade and then update?
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> artium888  paste this line in a terminal     sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:48] <bekks> artium888: update, then upgrade.
[14:48] <TJ-> artium888: 'precise-security' has version "4.1.ESV-R4-0ubuntu5.5" and precise-updates has "4.1.ESV-R4-0ubuntu5.9" so you local package archive is slightly out of date
[14:49] <artium888> TJ- , MonkeyDust , i've updated & upgrade right now and i still cant install the dhcp server
[14:49] <QWERTYj> hi
[14:50] <TJ-> artium888: "apt-cache policy isc-dhcp-common"
[14:50] <TJ-> artium888: and also "apt-cache policy  isc-dhcp-server" ... pastebin the output of those two commands
[14:51] <artium888> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855424/
[14:51] <artium888> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855428/
[14:52] <catkiller_> Hi there! Quick Samba question on Ubuntu: I've got a share where I set up create and directory masks (to 0500) but they are simply ineffective. Any file/directory I create are using the client's mask (0755)
[14:53] <catkiller_> Also, "force create mode" doesn't seem to work. If I set it to 0500 for instance files are still owner writeable, group readable and other readable
[14:53] <catkiller_> Any idea?
[14:53] <TJ-> artium888: The local package list is out of date, did "sudo apt-get update" complete without errors?
[14:53] <artium888> catkiller_: did u restart the service ?
[14:53] <artium888> TJ-: yup
[14:53] <catkiller_> artium888: many times
[14:54] <catkiller_> artium888: Also reconnected the client
[14:54] <artium888> TJ-: i have alot of problems lately.. i also cant install wine..
[14:54] <artium888> TJ-: something weird
[14:54] <TJ-> artium888: You can check that by looking at " http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/isc-dhcp/ " and seeing the version 5.9 packages are there
[14:54] <TJ-> artium888: I don't see any messages from that archive mirror saying its currently updating, so the indexes should be good.
[14:55] <artium888> TJ-: ur israeli /
[14:55] <artium888> ?
[14:55] <TJ-> artium888: You might try changing the mirror hostname in "/etc/apt/sources.list" to another mirror (e.g. from il.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com) and redo "apt-get update" to see if that fixes it
[14:56] <hitsujiTMO> artium888: is your filesystem mounted read only?
[14:56] <artium888> hitsujiTMO: no its a clean install of ubuntu 12.04 64bit..
[14:58] <p007> hello
[14:58] <artium888> TJ-: could u connect to my comp over teamviewer ?
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> !u | artium888
[15:00] <p007> hello
[15:01] <malimbar> hello
[15:01] <p007> anyone there?
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> p007  type /names to find out
[15:01] <malimbar> lol
[15:01] <p007> I have a question, and I really have no clue how to do this, I ordered a VPS with ubuntu, and ordered 5 ips, I want to make it so when a user connects with a same username/pw their assigned a different ip (external ip). so, anyone know how to make openvpn can connect to multiple vpn in one vps?
[15:01] <bekks> p007: Thats not possible.
[15:01] <artium888> what... why it asks for 32bit packages.. i have 64bit system.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855484/
[15:01] <p007> how to do that?
[15:02] <malimbar> artium888, sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[15:02] <malimbar> artium888, some programs require 32 bit libraries to work, and they're not included by default in a 64 bit system.
[15:02] <bekks> p007: you cant force a user to be connecting using one specific external IP. If the user wants to connect to a different external IP, you cant stop him from doing so.
[15:02] <artium888> malimbar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855499/
[15:03] <malimbar> artium888, what have you done to troubleshoot this so far?
[15:04] <artium888> malimbar: idk
[15:04] <bekks> artium888: teamviewer is a 32bit application.-.
[15:04] <bekks> artium888: Thats why it asks for 32bit libs.
[15:05] <p007> ops... sorry..  i mean same user can connect on other ip too... i have installed openvpn on ubuntu at my first ip... but vpn cannot connect to external ip
[15:05] <pip__> my samba shares keep disappearing when I reboot my rig, any idea why?
[15:06] <artium888> bekks: no i downloaded a 64bit version
[15:06] <bekks> p007: Then configure you openvpn server accordingly.
[15:06] <pip__> by that I mean I have to share the folders again for them to be seen
[15:06] <tonph> Hi I am  struggling to use my 3g modem MMX377G with my ubuntu 12.04
[15:06] <artium888> bekks: u can find it on their site
[15:06] <p007> how to do that?
[15:06] <tonph> am following this tutor code-cocktail.in/micromax-3g-datacard-mmx377g-installation-ubuntu/,
[15:06] <gry> Is it normal for npm and nodejs from the repos to conflict each-other?
[15:06] <bekks> artium888: And in fact - you may ask the teamviewer support too - theit 64bit package is just a wrapper which installs 32bit libs along woth 32bit wine.
[15:06] <bekks> artium888: Thats why it needs 32bit libs.
[15:07] <bekks> !openvpn | p007
[15:07] <artium888> bekks: psst... what a mistake to install 64bit system
[15:07] <tonph> any one has any spare idea on how to set this up ?
[15:07] <tonph> any help would be very much appreciated....
[15:07] <bekks> artium888: It would be a mistake to install 32bit OS on 64bit hardware.
[15:07] <malimbar> artium888, I'm confused on why it wouldn't install those 3 libraries though
[15:08] <artium888> malimbar: same here
[15:08] <platinov> здравствуйте)
[15:08] <tonph> my prob is usb listing was working  yesterday but I think i poke some wrong things and now it is not listing anythin .. :(
[15:08] <bekks> malimbar: Because teamviewer is a huge pile of mess when it comes to the structure of their deb package.
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> grp: no. whats the exact output you are getting?#
[15:08] <bekks> artium888: I explained it to you, why it wants those 32bit libs.
[15:08] <tonph> any idea guys ?
[15:08] <cholsu> ubuntu support custom compiled the newest kernel?
[15:08] <artium888> bekks: how do i hide join/left irc events in the webchat..
[15:08] <artium888> bekks: its spamming
[15:08] <bekks> artium888: I dont know.
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> cholsu: no, custom kernels are unsupported
[15:09] <cholsu> I got serious error in monitor resolution setting
[15:09] <bekks> artium888: I am used to them and dont want to hide them.
[15:09] <cholsu> oh sadly
[15:09] <tonph> my dongle is this http://www.micromaxinfo.com/data-card/3G/MMX377G
[15:09] <tonph> :(
[15:09] <platinov> кто может помочь с вопросиком одним интересным?
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> !ru | platinov
[15:10] <cholsu> I almost read simple russian character, it's hard language for me lol
[15:11] <p007> that why i already installed it... i already assigned external ip on my main ip (eth0)... i try ping my external ip, its success.... when i try connect openvpn on my external ip, its cannot connect...
[15:11] <malimbar> artium888, have you tried "apt-get -f install ia32-libs"?
[15:11] <bekks> p007: Fix your . key. It always produces multiple chars when you press it once.
[15:11] <bekks> p007: And please refer to the openvpn documentation on how to configure openvpn.
[15:12] <cholsu> but before I used to install custom compiled kernel from kernel.org, unsupport it now in 13.10?
[15:12] <tonph> any help !!! :(
[15:13] <bekks> cholsu: They never were supported officially. Nothing stops you from doing it, too.
[15:13] <malimbar> artium888, and if that doesn't work, you can try sudo apt-get clean and try installing again. That's what duckduckgo recommends anyways
[15:13] <p007> when i installing it, i refer from this site http://chagridsada.blogspot.com/2012/06/openvpn-system-based-on-user-pass-lib.html
[15:13] <hitsujiTMO> cholsu: you can install custom kernels if you wish. but they are not supported. so you are on your own if something goes wrong
[15:13] <yeats> malimbar: artium888: ia32-libs is deprecated - you now just append ':i386' to the package name
[15:13] <cholsu> yeah maybe
[15:14] <cholsu> good answer thx lol
[15:14] <TJ-> cholsu: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[15:14] <yeats> !mainline | cholsu
[15:14] <malimbar> yeats, that's cleaner anyways, but it usually means a lot more hunting down of individual libraries
[15:14] <cholsu> what a so much help infos are!
[15:15] <yeats> malimbar: yeah - there are plusses and minuses to the change
[15:15] <malimbar> tonph, I'm sorry... but what did you need help with again?
[15:15] <cholsu> too kind of you!
[15:15] <bekks> malimbar: Blam the teamviewer packager(s) for what he/she/they did.
[15:15] <bekks> *blame
[15:16] <malimbar> bekks, lol, sounds good, but in my lack of knowledge I just put forward a bunch of tryhard until I figure it out :)
[15:16] <cholsu> I'm a little afraid of malicious codes inside ubuntu kernel?!
[15:16] <SeaCalf_> installing dnsutils did'nt help. ftp.heanet.ie stopped all my other software that is accessing the internet when its active.
[15:16] <cholsu> possibility...
[15:16] <bekks> cholsu: Then dont use ubuntu kernels.
[15:16] <SeaCalf_> TJ- I managed to get this, can you make sense of it http://pastebin.com/bZEQpDZi
[15:16] <bekks> cholsu: and the same bad code maybe in the kernel.org kernels.
[15:16] <cholsu> good
[15:17] <cholsu> hehe then nevermind
[15:17] <cholsu> I went too much
[15:17] <tonph> malimbar: I am struggling with MMX377G modem with ubuntu 12.04
[15:17] <tonph> malimbar: and thanks for ur concern
[15:18] <SeaCalf_> I had to disconnect the net to stop the ftp.heanet.ie process , i couldnt use the internet otherwise
[15:18] <bekks> SeaCalf_: Which process establishes the connections to ftp.heanet.ie?
[15:18] <bekks> SeaCalf_: Until you find out, there is no reason to repeat that again and again :)
[15:18] <malimbar> tonph, searching says it's a 3g usb data card? and what's it doing exactly?
[15:19] <tonph> malimbar: this is 3g usb internet dongle.
[15:19] <SeaCalf_> bekks i got PID of 1375 for heanet
[15:19] <bekks> SeaCalf_: And which process is that?
[15:20] <SeaCalf_> ps -efly | grep $1375 is supposed to output that ,i dont know these things i'm new to linux
[15:20] <tonph> malimbar: I m following this code-cocktail.in/micromax-3g-datacard-mmx377g-installation-ubuntu/
[15:21] <bekks> SeaCalf_: Wrong syntax. "ps -ef | grep 1375"
[15:21] <tonph> malimbar: my prob is that step #4 - USB0* listing is not coming up in mine
[15:21] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: "<IP_ADDRESS>:60275    ftp.heanet.ie:http      ESTABLISHED 1375/freshclam" ... that's your anti-virus
[15:21] <Guest92080> morning, is there a way to tell if a motherboard has SATA ports on it from the terminal?
[15:21] <SeaCalf_> bekks i just copied and pasted the command
[15:22] <SeaCalf_> TJ- what does that mean
[15:22] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: It'll be fetching the latest virus signature updates
[15:23] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/freshclam.1.html
[15:23] <SeaCalf_> TJ- so its downloading antivirus software all the time /
[15:23] <bekks> SeaCalf_: No. It is downloading new signatures.
[15:23] <malimbar> tonph, that doesn't sound like a problem with step 4, but rather one of the earlier steps. Do you prefer command line or graphical btw?
[15:24] <SeaCalf_> Can i uninstall ClamAV  then ?
[15:24] <bekks> SeaCalf_: if you dont need/want it - sure.
[15:24] <malimbar> tonph, what I would do next is go to ubuntu's "disks" utility and see what devices are listed
[15:24] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: Why not just reconfigure the update schedule?
[15:24] <bekks> Or just stop freshclam from running.
[15:25] <tonph> malimbar: and what should I check in that ....
[15:25] <Guest92080> what command would I run from the terminal to find out if my motherboard has any SATA ports
[15:25] <SeaCalf_> TJ- its a pc i got from a friend , i didnt know about ClamAV is on here
[15:25] <malimbar> tonph, see if the usb dongle is recognized at all first, and if it it is, check whether it's mounted. And if it is, check what the location of it is
[15:25] <malimbar> tonph, Ie it's mount point
[15:25] <bekks> Guest92080: wget - to download the manual.
[15:26] <Guest92080> bekks, don't know the part number
[15:26] <tonph> malimbar: yeah , it is listed in that. But the location has '-' in that
[15:26] <bekks> Guest92080: Then use dmidecode to find out.
[15:26] <SeaCalf_> Ok i will try remove ClamAV and see if that helps
[15:26] <bekks> SeaCalf_: Why not just stopping freshclam?
[15:26] <tonph> malimbar: device = /dev/sdc
[15:26] <malimbar> tonph, is it mounted?
[15:26] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: I guess there's a cron schedule to run every 30 minutes or so ... check with "sudo crontab -e"
[15:27] <bekks> SeaCalf_: Do you remove the entire garden when a cat strolls through it?
[15:27] <faugusztin> Guest92080: lspci | grep SATA
[15:27] <Guest92080> bekks, AWESOME, thanks
[15:27] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: Use Ctrl+X to exit the crontab editor
[15:27] <tonph> malImbar: how can i check that ?
[15:28] <tonph> malimbar: since this is showing the device as /dev/sdc i think this is mounted. Right !!
[15:28] <Guest92080> faugusztin, THANKS. i guess according to this there is SATA ports IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] RAID bus controller 180 SATA/PATA  [SiS]  BUT how to determine how many now
[15:28] <faugusztin> Guest92080: or if you got a SAS controller too, then you should check lspci | grep SCSI
[15:28] <floryn> e
[15:28] <malimbar> tonph, in that same utility, below the big box of vlumes, there should be either a little right arrow (looks like "play") or a box (looks like a "stop" button). If you hover over it, it will say you can either mount it or unmount it
[15:29] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: You could also reconfigure freshclam to use a local (South African) mirror, see http://www.clamav.net/mirrors.html#za
[15:29] <SeaCalf_> TJ- i dont understand that command " no crontab for root - using an empty one"
[15:29] <malimbar> tonph, or at the bottom it'll say "contents (blah blah) - mounted at... " or "contents (blah blah) - Not Mounted"
[15:29] <bekks> SeaCalf_: there is no crontab for root, and an empty one will be used.
[15:30] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: OK, it's not a scheduled job in the crontab them, I guess there must be a system daemon service running it on a schedule, instead
[15:30] <tonph> malimbar: Am unable to see any such, the big bar box on volume has an entry - No media detected... :(
[15:30] <faugusztin> Guest92080: open the case ? :P
[15:31] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: "sudo grep freshclam /etc/cron*/*" might identify it
[15:31] <malimbar> tonph, but you don't see anything below that box?'
[15:32] <platinov> есть кто с наших?
[15:32] <SeaCalf_> TJ- sudo grep freshclam /etc/cron*/* outputs nothing
[15:32] <tonph> malimbar: noh :(
[15:32] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: OK, so it must be run as part of the clamav system services then
[15:32] <tonph> malimbar: i can see some text like usage bla bla, but has '-' on that
[15:32] <TJ-> SeaCalf_: I don't use Anti-virus so I don't know where it will be configured
[15:33] <malimbar> tonph, and if you go into the terminal, and type "sudo mount /dev/sdc /mnt", what does it print out?
[15:33] <Guest92080> faugusztin, it's offsite. i'm ssh'd into it and try to tell a customer what type of HDD to buy. either a IDE or SATA drive
[15:33] <tonph> malimbar: looking at other disk devices, i can see the 'mount' link ...
[15:33] <malimbar> tonph, put in in pastebin if you can
[15:33] <cholsu> I hope canonical develope some elegant office apps
[15:33] <cholsu> libreoffice s decent
[15:33] <platinov> whot this files atddd skaspdd skysapddd skapdd  ????    from /etc !      inciling cpu 100% =(
[15:34] <malimbar> cholsu, libreoffice is awesome and Canonical can't compete. But if you want you can always try one of the other multitude of apps that do the same thing. Gnome makes quite a few, KDE makes quite a few, etc
[15:34] <cholsu> hmm
[15:34] <cholsu> I knew you said in that way
[15:34] <tonph> malimbar: mount: no medium found on /dev/sdc
[15:35] <bekks> tonph: use a partition for mounting, not the entire disk.
[15:36] <faugusztin> Guest92080: can you do dmidecode | less, then search for Base Board Information
[15:36] <faugusztin> Guest92080: and here for "Product Name:"
[15:36] <TJ-> Guest92080: "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" or view that log-file yourself, you'll see the ports being recognised
[15:36] <tonph> bekks: i didnt get that ... sorry
[15:37] <Guest92080> faugusztin, ok, found it's a foxconn and its product name is 661 7MI
[15:37] <bekks> tonph: use sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc to see the partitions, and then use mount /dev/sdcX ... instead mount /dev/sdc
[15:37] <faugusztin> http://www.foxconnchannel.com/ProductDetail.aspx?T=Motherboard&U=en-us0000152
[15:37] <tonph> bekks: ok let me check so
[15:38] <faugusztin> Guest92080: so it has 2x SATA ports
[15:38] <Guest92080> faugusztin, i believe so, thats what I found via google yes
[15:38] <tonph> bekks: this is the result of fdisk - Cannot open /dev/sdc
[15:38] <tonph> looks like some thing got messed up ..
[15:39] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: you did use sudo right?
[15:39] <bekks> tonph: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[15:39] <Guest92080> faugusztin, TJ- bekks thanks guys for the help!!! gotta run
[15:40] <tonph> bekks: my mistake, yeah using sudo didnt complain anything - but not result also
[15:40] <bekks> tonph: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc has output. Pastebin it please.
[15:40] <tonph> result is nothing
[15:40] <platinov> sudo apt-get install gparted
[15:40] <platinov> sudo gparted
[15:40] <hitsujiTMO> platinov: gksudo gparted      you mena
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> mean*
[15:41] <platinov> ;D
[15:41] <tonph> ok let me install gparted and then check so again...
[15:41] <malimbar> tonph, I believe you, but it's nice to actually get the whole pastebin anyways. Sometimes little details are useful
[15:42] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: there's also: sudo parted -l           or: lsblk
[15:42] <bekks> tonph: Why dont you pastebin the requested information, but instead walk the try&error way?
[15:42] <SonikkuAmerica> hitsujiTMO: These days just running GParted from anywhere other than the terminal forces authentication
[15:42] <tonph> bekks: let paste bin the info ..
[15:45] <tonph> I have tried to paste some of the info here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855702/
[15:45] <tonph> am in that ignore/cancel state still - :)
[15:45] <cholsu> is it possible to mount iphone 5s on ubuntu 13.10?
[15:45] <cholsu> I failed to do it
[15:46] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: whats the output of: file /dev/sdc
[15:47] <tonph> hitsuJiTMO: its - /dev/sdc: block special
[15:48] <beefman> maybe dumb question or nitpicking: is it possible to prevent a program from popping to front when it starts?  i click skype then start doing something then it interrupts me by coming to the foreground.  using gnome
[15:49] <tonph> my prob is that COM port is not recognised for my modem...
[15:50] <Jessica1> who could help me for a PS2 to USB keyboard ?
[15:51] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: mount | grep /dev/sr1
[15:52] <tonph> hitsujiTMO: it results me to no result... silent prompt !
[15:52] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: how far have you gotten in the installation?
[15:53] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: did you install the .deb drivers?
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> beefman  Skype > options > chat > when somebody...
[15:53] <beefman> MonkeyDust: not when somebody pings me.  i mean on startup.  i don't want any programs coming to foreground when they start
[15:54] <tonph> hitsujiTMO : I install as per this code-cocktail.in/micromax-3g-datacard-mmx377g-installation-ubuntu/, and it was working yesterday
[15:54] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: ls -l ls /dev/ttyUSB*
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> beefman  General > start skype minimised
[15:55] <beefman> MonkeyDust: i have that checked too, but the login still pops up.  isn't there a way in the window manager to prevent any program from interrupting me?
[15:55] <malimbar> tonph, This sounds like a really basic non-linuxy step... but have you restarted your computer after it started doing this?
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: sorry: ls -l /dev/ttyUSB*
[15:57] <tonph> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855776/, but this is from my other photon-modem (Huawei) which i m connected to internet. But yesterday I was able to detect both the modem, removing this and trying to connect only my MMX377G modem does not work ..:(
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> beefman  in dconf-editor, maybe, i'm looking, but don't find anything (in org.gnome to start)
[15:59] <beefman> MonkeyDust: thank you, i'll take a look
[15:59] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: is the mmx modem in the system now?
[16:00] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: lsusb -knn
[16:00] <tonph> hitsujiTMO : I have attached both as of now, MMX is not detected and PHOTON is detected and thus am able to use internet from it :)
[16:01] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: sorry: lsusb && lsusb -t
[16:01] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: "-knn" ??? lspci ftw :)
[16:02] <pulkitiiit> #blender
[16:02] <pip__> hi I'm trying to set up a file server for ubuntu & windows machines which kit do I need to use
[16:02] <tonph> hitsujiTMO : let me try
[16:02] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: tiredness does wonderful things
[16:02] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Those devices initially present as a virtual CD-ROM (see /dev/sdb) containing the drivers. They need usbswitch-ing to their alter-ego modem configuration
[16:02] <pip__> samba or something else?
[16:02] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: You made me giggle, too :)
[16:02] <artium888> could anyone help me with this ? : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855804/
[16:02] <pip__> I'll be serving files from an Ubuntu rig to both win & ubuntu machines
[16:03] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: i know, i'd just presume that the software installs a udev rule to auto switch
[16:04] <artium888> bekks MonkeyDust malimbar TJ , does anyone know how to fix this ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855804/
[16:04] <tonph> hitsujiTMO: looks like the options failed .. still i have pasted lspci result here..http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855815/
[16:04] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: please do: lsusb && lsusb -t
[16:05] <Nusoft> I have made my decision! After looking at the URL Jordan_U sent me, I am going to get Ubuntu. But before that, I have to get some sort of virtual machine like VMware and give it a little test.
[16:05] <bekks> artium888: you have to fix the error that leads to that error message. The postinstall script fails, you have to debug it and see why.
[16:05] <Nusoft> Ubuntu might be...the one!
[16:05] <Nusoft> Thanks, Jordan_U!
[16:06] <artium888> bekks: eh.. kinda new to ubuntu.. what do i do ?
[16:06] <SchrodingersScat> Nusoft: there's always virtualbox
[16:06] <bekks> artium888: you have to fix the error that leads to that error message. The postinstall script fails, you have to debug it and see why.
[16:06] <tonph> hitsujiTMO: looks like this when i was installing yesterday Bus 002 Device 023: ID 2020:4010   in this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855825/
[16:06] <Nusoft> Is Virtualbox free?
[16:06] <TJ-> artium888: I'd suggest a purge and reinstall of the -server and -comon packages, in case there were some artifacts from a prior install
[16:07] <ddssc> resized my partitions with gparted, moved 10gigs from linux to win. now windows won't boot. is there any way to fix my win boot partition?
[16:08] <demophobia> Does ubuntu not have a default image editing program? All I want to do is crop a screenshot!
[16:08] <bekks> demophobia: Just use gimp.
[16:08] <belgianguy> ok, so my media server can stream mp3
[16:09] <ddssc> don't use gimp, gimp is the worst pos ever created.
[16:09] <belgianguy> but it doesn't want to play WMA
[16:09] <demophobia> "no longer included by default because of it's professional-grade complexity", right, bekks ?
[16:09] <demophobia> ddssc, what's better?
[16:09] <belgianguy> is there a way to find out if it's codec related?
[16:09] <beefman> MonkeyDust: http://bertrandbenoit.blogspot.com/2011/09/change-window-behavior-to-prevent-focus.html
[16:09] <ddssc> demophobia: anything really.
[16:09] <demophobia> lol
[16:11] <TJ-> tonph: Have you tried "sudo modprobe option && echo '12d1 1506' | sudo dd of=/sys/bus/usb-serial/drivers/option1/new_id"  ?
[16:11] <ddssc> demophobia:  use pinta
[16:11] <tonph> TJ : nope...
[16:12] <ddssc> resized my partitions with gparted, moved 10gigs from linux to win. now windows won't boot. is there any way to fix my win boot partition?
[16:12] <tonph> TJ : what it suppose to do :) ?
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> beefman  great!
[16:12] <Nusoft> Is Virtualbox free? Or do I have to pay for it?
[16:12] <malimbar> Nusoft, free
[16:12] <hitsujiTMO> Nusoft: its free
[16:12] <Nusoft> Okay, then! Thank you!
[16:13] <malimbar> ddssc, exactly how did you add it to the windows partition?
[16:13] <tonph> I was checking the log :/var/log/syslog and tried ataching and detaching - and i foud this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855889/
[16:14] <ddssc> malimbar: shrunk linux partition, and then expanded win partition by the unallocated amount (10 gigs)
[16:14] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: cat /etc/usb_modeswitch.d/* /etc/usb_modeswitch.conf | pastebinit
[16:14] <demophobia> ddssc, i'll write that down; i just cropped it with fotoxx ...
[16:14] <artium888> bekks: im trying.. i cant
[16:14] <malimbar> ddssc... don't do that again. heh. You might be able to fix it by putting in a windows recovery disk and/or booting it in safe mode (if you can)
[16:14] <ddssc> demophobia: sudo apt-get install pinta
[16:15] <tonph> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6855895/
[16:15] <MaazZ> searching for hack for xubuntu...
[16:15] <ddssc> malimbar: point taken, using open source software for serious tasks is stupid.
[16:15] <demophobia> ddssc, i just used the Ubuntu Software Center ... looks like it should be better than fotoxx, which seems more photography-collection-oriented
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> MaazZ  a hack for xubuntu?
[16:15] <MaazZ> yeah
[16:15] <demophobia> thanks :)
[16:15] <MaazZ> program
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> MaazZ  meaning?
[16:16] <Nusoft> Okay! Gotta go! Bye, guys and gals! :D
[16:16] <malimbar> ddssc, no, but resizing windows partitions and expecting windows to just be ok with that is a bit weird
[16:16] <MaazZ> i want to hack
[16:16] <SchrodingersScat> !vim | MaazZ
[16:16] <malimbar> ddssc, windows doesn't like to be messed with without it's knowledge, and actively fights against it
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> MaazZ  what do you want to hack and how legal is that?
[16:16] <ddssc> malimbar: I've done it a million times with win tools like paragon.
[16:16] <MaazZ> legal enough
[16:16] <MaazZ> hack bill gates
[16:16] <SchrodingersScat> MonkeyDust: he should hack on emacs, i think they always want help
[16:17] <malimbar> ddssc, those programs are running under a tight assumption that you're using windows, and fix windows for you afterwards
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> MaazZ  try to hack NSA, then
[16:18] <malimbar> ddssc, it's like trying to dual boot with windows and ubuntu, and windows just  happily overwrites the MBR, because "hey, who would use anything but windows" is the base assumption of their installs
[16:18] <fieldfirst> Is it possible to use SElinux on Ubuntu ?
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> !selinux
[16:19] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: it does look like there's no driver installed for the device. can you try reinstalling the .deb for it
[16:19] <SeaCalf_> TJ- I didnt find a way to configure the virus definition updates for Clamav. There is no GUI for it and Clamav is not listed in programs. I was able to find Clamav and its update helper Freshclam in Synaptic package manager. They were installed and i removed Clamav from the my system. I hope the issue over now and i can get back to working in peace again. Thanks for the help guys :)
[16:20] <tonph> hitsujiTMO: i find this on the log ::scsi 47:0:0:0: CD-ROM            Micromax Modem            6225 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS::, was wandering why this is reported as CDROM .. :(
[16:20] <tonph> yeah - let me try to reinstall things again...
[16:21] <hitsujiTMO> tonph: its a dual mode device. its storing the drivers on the virtual cd.
[16:21] <TJ-> tonph: The device has multiple personalities. It initially presents a virtual CD-ROM file-system containing the driver files. Once installed, the driver is supposed to switch the USB device ID to present the serial ports (or Ethernet port)
[16:21]  * TJ- has one here
[16:21] <tonph> TJ: ahaa.... got it let me reinstall things again and .. get back to make some noise again :)
[16:22] <artium888> bekks: this is how i solved it: sudo dpkg --force-all -P isc-dhcp-server
[16:25] <arulmagi> Hi guys. I need a help. How to download mp3 from a webpage using wget?
[16:25] <gordonjcp> arulmagi: wget <url for file>
[16:26] <val__> a question for people who like beautiful things : which font do you like to edit/print a professional document ?
[16:26] <arulmagi> thanks for the response gordonjcp. i tried that but it downloads just the webpage as index.html
[16:28] <oddantfr> I guess nobody likes beautiful things
[16:29] <Jessica1> I can't more skype window, it's on the top on the left
[16:29] <Jessica1> I can't move skype window, it's on the top on the left
[16:29] <gordonjcp> !ot | oddantfr
[16:30] <hitsujiTMO> arulmagi: try adding --page-requisites
[16:32] <oddantfr> gordonjcp: as font can't be different from one system to another I felt right to ask that in here, sorry if my way of asking is bumping your robotic way of applying rules
[16:37] <gordonjcp> oddantfr: it's not an Ubuntu support question
[16:41] <arulmagi> Hi
[16:42] <madyourse> oddantfr: what's your question. Some people are so an=l.
[16:42] <jhutchins> SeaCalf_: You know that clamav only finds Windows viruses, right?
[16:43] <demophobia> any idea why following http://sidvind.com/wiki/Thunderbird/Change_account_order failed to change the account order?
[16:44] <SeaCalf_> jhutchins its a friend of mine's pc he gave to me. I never knew about Clamav is installed on it.
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> demophobia  don't trust instructions on random websites you should find
[16:46] <demophobia> MonkeyDust, erm, thank you ... ... so ... can you help me fix it? :D
[16:46] <jhutchins> SeaCalf_: clam is configured via text files, as is freshclam which updates the definition files.  The default install on Ubuntu should be configured to work automatically.  I don't know if it sets up scan-on-open or scheduled scans.
[16:48] <demophobia> Does Ubuntu automatically delete backup files after the original file has been deleted for a certain length of time?
[16:49] <SeaCalf_> jhutchins ok i see. But it does'nt matter now, i'm glad Clamav-freshclam is  removed from the system now. I dont want antivirus software here since i practise good computing behaviour :) .
[16:49] <bekks> demophobia: Ubuntu does not even create backup files at all, automatically.
[16:49] <demophobia> ... ... i seem to have a lot of them ... ...
[16:50] <demophobia> are you sure, bekks ? where are these ~ files coming from them?
[16:50] <demophobia> *then
[16:50] <bekks> demophobia: And you have a broken . key, too.
[16:50] <demophobia> lol
[16:50] <icecool> hello, i need a good tool to connect to free VPN in italy
[16:50] <AMPX> Is there a way to get Ubuntu on Mac?
[16:50] <bekks> demophobia: the ~ are created when the user - that means you - edits and saves a files. This does not happen automatically, but by the intent of the user.
[16:51] <bekks> AMPX: If it is an Intel based mac, install it.
[16:51] <demophobia> so it's an option in gedit?
[16:51] <bekks> demophobia: exactly.
[16:51] <AMPX> bekks: thanks. ill check it out
[16:51] <pulse00> hi all. is there a way to set an environment variable for the www-data user manually, so it's available to scripts run by the nginx webserver through fastcgi?
[16:52] <icecool> VPN free tool?
[16:52] <hitsujiTMO> icecool: use the vpn client for whatever vpn you are using then
[16:52] <demophobia> 'k thanks bekks
[16:52] <bekks> icecool: openvpn
[16:52] <icecool> i follow you bekks
[16:53] <jhutchins> SeaCalf_: The best that can be said of clam is that it meets the requirements of having "antivirus software" installed if you get security audits.  It doesn't do much good even for Windows files.  For a Linux fileserver that serves Windows clients you're far better off running a good Windows AV program on the clients.
[16:54] <jhutchins> Last I checked, AVG had a free (and a commercial) linux product, and they get pretty good ratings.
[16:55] <SeaCalf_> jhutchins thanks , i will try AVG for linux someday when i feel like using antivirus software
[16:55] <linXea> I need help connecting to my university VPN (openconnect / anyconnect). The connection is established and IP is assigned to interface vpn0. The issue is that my datatraffic is NOT routed over vpn0 interface but instead still on wlan0 with my home IP.  What do I need to do? I assume I need to set another gateway (if up choose vpn0 over wlan0).. I have no idea how to do that. I am using network-manager-gnome with plugin for openconnect. Same problem wit
[16:55] <linXea> h ciscos proprietary Anyconnect mobility secure client.  http://pastie.org/8688415 <-- all the info I could think of is in this pastie
[16:59] <pip__> samba or nfs for sharing files to ubuntu and windows machines?
[16:59] <pip__> from an ubuntu server
[16:59] <bekks> pip__: Unless you windows supports nfs, you have to use samba.
[17:00] <pip__> bekks: having problems getting samba to share to another ubuntu rig at the mo
[17:00] <pip__> bekks: think I'm on for a reinstall & start from scratch again
[17:02] <linXea> hm, show us your /etc/samba/smb.conf  and output of # sudo smbtree
[17:02] <bekks> pip__: Ubuntu is not Windows. Just fix the problems.
[17:03] <pip__> bekks: lol, I'm reinstalling cos I'm making things worse everytime I fiddle with the thing
[17:03] <bekks> pip__: Dont fiddle, repair.
[17:03] <pip__> bekks: okay then, my repairs are making matters worse
[17:04] <pip__> bekks: yesterday i had a permissions problem, now my directories don't exist
[17:04] <bekks> pip__: So you removed them?
[17:05] <bekks> pip__: And which "my directories"?
[17:05] <bekks> !details | pip__
[17:05] <pip__> bekks: nope, they're visible, on screen
[17:05] <bekks> pip__: Define "they".
[17:05] <pip__> it's a long story:
[17:05] <bekks> pip__: Dont expect us to know what you are talking about unless you tell us the details :)
[17:06] <bekks> pip__: Shorten it up, into one sentence.
[17:06] <linXea> this channel used to be more helpful. Ive asked three times aldready today and not a single response.
[17:06] <bekks> linXea: Because no one knows an answer, most likely.
[17:07] <pip__> I have a second hdd containing 2 folders I want to share up til todays disaster I could click on them but not mount them - permission denied
[17:07] <linXea> even with sudo pip__ ?
[17:07] <pip__> ubun tu 13.10 64 bit desktop, sharing to another rig running the same OS
[17:07] <pip__> linXea: h'mm, not tried that
[17:08] <bekks> pip__: Use an editor and the samba configuration for sharing files, not clicking anything.
[17:08] <bekks> !samba | pip__
[17:08] <pip__> linXea: could that be why my shares are not persistent after a restart?
[17:08] <DKFermi> Hi, I have a TP x201 with integrated gobi2000 3G modem. Is there a way of permanently disabling the 3G and Bluetooth?
[17:08] <bekks> pip__: Yes.
[17:08] <pip__> bekks: yah, thought it was a bum config file
[17:08] <DKFermi> I can click in the notification bay area to disable both BT and the 3G but then it comes back on after a hard restart
[17:09] <bekks> pip__: It is. Because you didnt configure Samba at all until now.
[17:09] <pip__> bekks: i believe I'm best starting all over again
[17:09] <bekks> DKFermi: Thats expected.
[17:09] <linXea> pip__, if you want them persistent between computers running linux I would suggest using /etc/fstab to mount them at boot
[17:09] <bekks> pip__: I suggest you start reading the articles given.
[17:09] <TJ-> linXea: Is the VPN IPv4? Is it getting its address via DHCP? If so, is the DHCP server passing a default gateway? If so, is the client IPV4 configuration set to Method "Automatic (VPN)" or something else?
[17:09] <pip__> linXea: i got that working :)
[17:09] <DKFermi> my experience with disabling modules in the kernel is not that great - so any suggestions or help are appreciated
[17:10] <pip__> bekks: it's a new project, but I am floundering
[17:10] <TJ-> DKFermi: maybe 'rfkill'  ?
[17:10] <linXea> it is IPv4 and it is getting ip over  dhcp.
[17:10] <linXea> all that works
[17:10] <pip__> bekks: any pointers to an article a beginner can get to grips with?
[17:10] <bekks> pip__: There is no reason in reinstalling. You should just configure a samba server which will not happen when reinstalling.
[17:11] <DKFermi> TJ, thanks - i'll take a look at that
[17:11] <TJ-> linXea: Is it set to Method  "Automatic (VPN)" ?
[17:11] <linXea> yes
[17:11] <linXea> tried  both choices
[17:12] <TJ-> linXea: OK, that configuration means "if the DHCP server sends a default-gateway, use it" ... so look at "/var/log/syslog" to see whether that does report a default-gateway being received and set, or not
[17:12] <DKFermi> TJ, thanks that helped
[17:13] <DKFermi> what's the difference between soft and hard blocks?
[17:13] <Datz> Hi, I'm looking for a live cd that will fit on a cd-r.. preferably with ubuntu classic and not unity. does such a thing exist
[17:13] <Datz> ?
[17:13] <TJ-> DKFermi: "hard" means a physical switch, "soft" means in software
[17:13] <xangua> Datz: ubuntu no longer fits on a cd, I believe lubuntu still does
[17:13] <DKFermi> right - so I guess hard is impossible - since i can't turn it on/off in the bios
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> Datz: not any more
[17:14] <TJ-> Datz: Only the mini.iso
[17:14] <Datz> awesome
[17:14] <Datz> thanks
[17:14] <linXea> TJ-, "Feb  1 18:12:51 thinkpad NetworkManager[750]: <warn> /sys/devices/virtual/net/vpn0: couldn't determine device driver; ignoring..! this seem odd.
[17:14] <pip__> bekks:uninstall & reinstall samba then? As a start over.  Goodness only knows what I've done to smb.conf by now
[17:14] <floryn> hei cv lista cu parole folosite la facebook avezi?
[17:14] <bekks> pip__: No.
[17:14] <floryn> nu are nimeni?
[17:14] <bekks> pip__: Configure Samba. Dont uninstall. Dont reinstall. Configure.
[17:14] <Datz> they couldn't cut a few MB make you use a DVD-R..
[17:14] <TJ-> linXea: Can you pastebin the syslog ?
[17:14] <pip__> bekks:wow, you're persistent on this
[17:14] <slimjimflim> pip__
[17:15] <bekks> pip__: Yes, because everything else is pointless.
[17:15] <floryn> hei aveti?
[17:15] <slimjimflim> pip__: did you get banned from ##linux-coders?
[17:15] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | slimjimflim
[17:15] <floryn> noo password facebook list
[17:15] <pip__> slimjimflim: nope, don't do coding
[17:16] <DKFermi> another question. I regularly have hang ups of my graphics chip, freezing and once I choose terminal mode it shows drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed
[17:16] <pip__> slimjimflim: i can't configure samba, let alone code
[17:16] <linXea> TJ-,  http://pastie.org/8689123
[17:16] <slimjimflim> pip__: i must be thinking of a different pip
[17:16] <DKFermi> does that mean my graphic chip is acting up or is this a config issue?
[17:16] <pip__> slimjimflim: it's possible, I had to tweak my nick cos sum other pip had it
[17:17] <TJ-> linXea: "Feb  1 18:12:52 thinkpad NetworkManager[750]: <info>   Forbid Default Route: yes"
[17:17] <linXea> I saw that.
[17:17] <pip__> bekks:okay, back to the samba docs again it is
[17:17] <hitsujiTMO> !ro | floryn
[17:18] <floryn> daa
[17:18] <pip__> i shall return to torment you all with my samba woes
[17:18] <pip__> but now...
[17:18] <pip__> dinner
[17:18] <pip__> adios
[17:18] <floryn> hei /hitsujiTMO
[17:19] <floryn> nu vb cu mn?
[17:19] <bekks> floryn: Is that some kind of code?
[17:20] <floryn> password linst facebook please
[17:20] <hitsujiTMO> floryn: sorry, i don't understand romainian. try #ubuntu-ro
[17:20] <floryn> password list?
[17:20] <bekks> floryn: wrong channel.
[17:20] <OerHeks> 12345
[17:20] <DJones> floryn: Just use your password to login to your account
[17:20] <TJ-> linXea: So, the VPN does *not* allow default routing, which is why it adds so many static routes, so there is nothing wrong with the configuration
[17:21] <linXea> so I need to specify one of those static routes manually ?
[17:21] <TJ-> linXea: what for?!
[17:22] <linXea> I need to be able to surf the web on university vpn, since I cannot access library resources without them
[17:23] <TJ-> linXea: The VPN is for access to *internal* resources only, not for gateway-ing  to the outside world
[17:23] <glitsj16> hellow people
[17:24] <TJ-> linXea: the default route set-up for your local Internet access will be used for everything else, as it should be.
[17:24] <linXea> TI want the internet route to be used for interface vpn0, as it has been for years.
[17:25] <linXea> surfing the web like I were physically on the university
[17:25] <TJ-> linXea: You can't, that's why they specifically deny a default route. See https://internt.slu.se/en/services/it/support/gor-sa-har/vpn-anyconnect/
[17:26] <linXea> they have two instances.. internal and external use of vpn.
[17:26] <TJ-> linXea: Then ask the IT support desk, they'll know the specifics of their network and its operating policies
[17:27] <linXea> it works just fine on my phone as well as through vbox with windows XP running here
[17:28] <hitsujiTMO> linXea: is it also setting a proxy?
[17:28] <linXea> I changed a few settings and "NetworkManager[750]: <info>   Forbid Default Route: yes" disappeared
[17:29] <TJ-> linXea: aaaah! " I changed a few settings" .... reset those changes maybe?
[17:30] <linXea> did that, still no luck.
[17:30] <linXea> might try with proxy settings..
[17:30] <linXea> never did that before though
[17:30] <TJ-> linXea: in the VPN configuration dialog, on the IPv4 Address tab, Change the selection from "Basic" to "Routes" and then *uncheck* "Use only for resources on this connection"
[17:31] <linXea> thats exactly what I did 2 min ago and the warning dissapear.
[17:31] <TJ-> linXea: Then syslog should show the new connection establishes a default route
[17:32] <linXea> http://pastie.org/8689163
[17:33] <TJ-> linXea: Is your local clock out of sync, or mine? Latest minutes value is :18 in your logs but here its :33 (I'm on GMT not CET)
[17:34] <linXea> hm, in terminal they seem out of sync but not in GUI
[17:34] <linXea> thats odd
[17:34] <hitsujiTMO> linXea: """If you are using a Mac you must also configure the proxy settings in your web browser. Read the guide in the right-hand column!""" suggests there's a proxy involved that may not be auto configured for you
[17:35] <linXea> $ date  <-- show the correct time
[17:37] <linXea> holy... proxy was the problem. Didnt even consider that  >_<
[17:37] <TJ-> linXea: OK, I've found the problem, it's a bug in Network-Manager's route handling code
[17:38] <TJ-> linXea: If you configure a proxy that'll be only for HTTP/HTTPS ... if you want true default routing then you need to work around the NM bug
[17:38] <linXea> so it is a "real" BUG as well ?
[17:38] <TJ-> linXea: what version of Ubuntu is it?
[17:38] <linXea> okay, that explain why my dual boot with gentoo still works like a champ with same settings.
[17:38] <linXea> 13.10
[17:39] <linXea> System:    Host thinkpad Kernel 3.11.0-15-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop Unity 7.1.2  Distro Ubuntu 13.10 saucy
[17:40] <linXea> http/https is more then enough for me to gain access to library resources. Thanks a bunch. I will have en eye open for a solution for "true" default routing over vpn-openconnect (anyconnect)
[17:41] <JeanSolPartre> qui parle français merci
[17:41] <bekks> !fr | JeanSolPartre
[17:42] <JeanSolPartre> je merci
[17:42] <TJ-> linXea: See https://mail.gnome.org/archives/commits-list/2010-August/msg06524.html
[17:42] <splex> hello there, I'd like to ask whether openjdk-6 (or openjdk-7) is free or open-source. that is, how Oracle-free it is.
[17:43] <TJ-> linXea: patch developed and discussed at RedHat https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=621698
[17:44] <TJ-> linXea: so we go back to the fact that if the VPN *server* provides explicit routes then the *proper* response *must* be to *not* set a default route, so in fact, it is doing precisely what it ought to. The bug is in the user expectation and lack of information in the GUI
[17:46] <TJ-> linXea: Static routes are pointless if the VPN connection is the default route, so the university obviously do not want it used as a default route.
[17:47] <fieldfirst> In Apparmor status I have got "processes are unconfined but have a profile defined" what does it suppose to mean ? --
[17:48] <TJ-> fieldfirst: It means the policy is not being enforced
[17:48] <fieldfirst> Thanks, I am trying to enforcing the nginx
[17:55] <DKFermi> -quit
[17:55] <fieldfirst> Can anyone help to generate the nginx profile for Apparmor ? I have tried with genprof but, it doesn't work
[18:00] <madyourse> Hi
[18:11] <nobody08> my xubuntu with Xfce Windows... operating in complete silence. no sound on starting up or shutting down.  Though the on board sound system is functioning fine, I can play video with sound.
[18:11] <nobody08> please help.
[18:13] <prasoonatwork> Good Evening All, i am not able to boot into windows 7 after upgraing from ubuntu 1304 to 1310,,, i have 64bit version
[18:13] <prasoonatwork> can i get some assistance ??
[18:15] <bekks> !dualboot | prasoonatwork
[18:20] <tortue> hi every body
[18:20] <tortue> I needed to install Maya on my computer
[18:20] <daftykins> and now?
[18:20] <tortue> but I'm using ubuntu like much of you
[18:21] <prasoonatwork> ubottu: i already had windows 7. i tried using boot repair. and this is what i got "http://paste.ubuntu.com/6856491/"
[18:21] <tortue> the installation of Maya failed and now I have much of my packages broken
[18:22] <daftykins> tortue: can you pastebin ( http://paste.ubuntu.com ) the output of 'sudo apt-get -f install' running in a terminal?
[18:22] <prasoonatwork> ubottu: i am not an expert in linux... so i hope you might understand what i am facing though...
[18:22] <giacy> ciaooo
[18:24] <prasoonatwork> bekks: i am not an expert in linux...i already had windows 7. i tried using boot repair. and this is what i got "http://paste.ubuntu.com/6856491/"
[18:25] <faust1002> hello
[18:25] <tortue> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6856641/
[18:26] <tortue> it tells me something like backbuner.sw.bas needs to be reinstalled
[18:27] <madyourse> prasoonatwork: windows is always doing something funky read writes with the hard drive even when sitting idle. Linux don't do that.
[18:27] <FuuqUmiist> is this the official help channel or just a fan club?
[18:28] <prasoonatwork> madyourse: can you please help
[18:28] <FuuqUmiist> only people who actually help should be ops
[18:28] <darkxploit> hello guysssss
[18:29] <darkxploit> whats up ...
[18:29] <FuuqUmiist> prasoonatwork there should be a way to fix the grub, which sucks on linux, but i don't know how
[18:29] <tortue> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6856659/
[18:29] <DJones> 18:27 < FuuqUmiist> is this the official help channel or just a fan club?
[18:29] <tortue> ok daftyKings, I've pasted it
[18:30] <madyourse> prasoonatwork: I never had any luck messing with grub
[18:30] <DJones> Grr, stupid mouse
[18:30] <daftykins> tortue: there should've been a lot more than that
[18:30] <tortue> sorry, it is all my shell aswers
[18:31] <prasoonatwork> i have a paste from the BOOT REPAIR "http://paste.ubuntu.com/6856491/"...
[18:31] <FuuqUmiist> most of my major problems with ubuntu always tend to be because the grub messes up
[18:31] <madyourse> prasoonatwork: I think while booting linux tapping the tab key may bring up the linux grub menu. On that it may have windows on the menu.
[18:32] <nisim> heloo i have philips freevents x56 downloaded ubuntu 12.04 lts.No sound speakers not working did all nothing helps please need help here
 yes i have the menu but when i select it and hit enter it will not boot to windows ,,, check this paste from Boot Repair application,,,"http://paste.ubuntu.com/6856491/"
[18:34] <daftykins> tortue: what's reporting broken packages then?
  a cursour will just blink ... and do nothing...
[18:36] <faust1002> I have stupid problem, I going to use ISE from Xilinx. It provides old version of libstdc++ and enforces standard gcc to use it. Ofcource gcc fails. Sylinks don't work, google also. Any ideas?
[18:36] <bekks> faust1002: Whats "ISE"?
[18:37] <aidalgol> How do I change the event that the power button triggers (outside of a DE)?
[18:37] <faust1002> bekks: http://www.xilinx.com/products/design-tools/ise-design-suite/ise-webpack.htm, for FPGAs
[18:37] <bekks> aidalgol: By reprogramming the BIOS.
[18:38] <tortue> should i oblige to reinstall all my system cause some of my packages are broken?
[18:39] <madyourse> prasoonatwork: maybe use windows install disk then if that fixes it. You may not be able to boot into linux. I always used a windows program called easybcd. But linux grub needs to be installed to root directory of install  not root of drive
[18:41] <aidalgol> bekks: There's no OS-side ACPI configuration?
 : that is a problem... i use linux as my primary OS... only for certain windows only application i switch to it. is there any other work around ??
[18:42] <nisim> heloo i have philips freevents x56 downloaded ubuntu 12.04 lts.No sound speakers not working did all nothing helps please need help here
[18:42] <madyourse> prasoonatwork: easybcd uses windows boot menu to select operating system. But again the linux boot grub either during install needs to be placed in the root directory of install. Not the root of the drive. I found it much easier to recover failures like yours.
[18:42] <madyourse> prasoonatwork: easybcd uses windows boot menu to select operating system. But again the linux boot grub either during install needs to be placed in the root directory of install or after install. Not the root of the drive. I found it much easier to recover failures like yours.
[18:43] <prasoonatwork> madyourse: can explain how i should proceed ??
[18:44] <arun_> guys where can I get wifi drivers of ASUS X45C ??
[18:44] <djural> ls
[18:45] <stefg> !wifi
[18:47] <daftykins> arun_: what's the wireless hardware on that model?
[18:52] <dangucci> hello i have setup pptp on ubuntu server authenticating with radius server but  i will like to throttle internet speed for some clients connected to the vpn .. any help in the form of scripts or radius supported attributes
[18:53] <kiik> suniko
[18:56] <delac> anyone who knows how to set up Canon MG3500 printer?
[18:57] <whoever> delac: what have you done so far to set it up
[18:59] <whoever> delac: what have you done so far to set it up
[19:02] <bekks> ubuntutis: Please keep your support issues in this channel, do not carry them to my query, unasked.
[19:04] <sambagirl> test
[19:05] <dangucci> hello i have setup pptp on ubuntu server authenticating with radius server but  i will like to throttle internet speed for some clients connected to the vpn .. any help in the form of scripts or radius supported attributes
[19:06] <whoever> dangucci: i would look at iptables
[19:07] <dangucci> ok my pptp remote range is <IP_ADDRESS>/24 hw will i please use iptables to limit speed in that subnet
[19:09] <whoever> dangucci: oh its homework, we don't like doing our own, and the point of homework is for you to learn something, so  we will point you in the direction of the anster
[19:09] <whoever> *answer
[19:10] <whoever> dangucci: and your homework you says  "use iptables to limit speed", and I pointed you tward iptables
[19:16] <Ruby_Vroom> hi all
[19:16] <darkxploit> hello guys. can u tell me what and how do i proceed, if i want to set up a system where i will have a mail address<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and all mails received on the mail address to be transferred to a gmail .. also how do i do to get a mail address<EMAIL_ADDRESS>. i got a VPS running ubuntu server..
[19:17]  * Ruby_Vroom is SUPER new to ubuntu/linux
[19:17] <daftykins> Ruby_Vroom: do you have a question?
[19:17] <darkxploit> Ruby_Vroom: you are going to enjoy I'm sure
[19:17] <Ruby_Vroom> daftykins yes - i'm trying to a wireless adapter working
[19:18] <daftykins> darkxploit: it'd make more sense to sign up to google apps or something similar, rather than administer that yourself
[19:18] <eoo> any ubuntu probs
[19:18] <darkxploit> daftykins:  i already got my website running on the VPS
[19:19] <daftykins> darkxploit: sure a website, but a mail server? little bit different :D
[19:19] <Ruby_Vroom> eoo i have a ubuntu 13.10 prob getting wifi working
[19:19] <NictraSavios> When I go to add a new printer I get "FirewallD is not running. Network printer detection needs services mdns, ipp, ipp-client and samba-client enabled on firewall.", how do I remove this error?
[19:19] <darkxploit> daftykins: can't i set up something so that every mails is transferred directly to the gmail without the user know about it
[19:20] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: is the wifi cart seen by ubuntu
[19:20] <NictraSavios> I do not have a firewall installed, unless one is installed by default.
[19:20] <faust1002> bye
[19:20] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever it's a usb dongle
[19:20] <eoo> Ruby_Vroom: tell me about it
[19:20] <daftykins> darkxploit: you'd be better off going into your domain's control panel and creating a mail forwarder to point to your other address
[19:20] <shahhena95> how do i set up KDE environment on ubuntu 13.04 ?
[19:20] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: ok, is it seen by ubuntu
[19:20] <daftykins> darkxploit: no point receiving email only to send it out again ;)
[19:21] <Ruby_Vroom> ok all, here's the deal: i bought the edimax mini usb dongle adapter for a windows machine, decided to install ubuntu
[19:21] <eoo> ok
[19:21] <Ruby_Vroom> i researched and looked up drivers
[19:21] <darkxploit> daftykins: have u heard of sendmail ?/.. what is that?.. is it what I'm really looking here
[19:21] <Ruby_Vroom> got a deb pkg installer from google code
[19:21] <Ruby_Vroom> brought the tower down, hooked it up to wired internet and installed fine
[19:21] <daftykins> darkxploit: like i say, what you're trying to do is a bad way to go about things. a forwarder would work better
[19:21] <Ruby_Vroom> unplugged it and left the edimax usb in and it was working fine
[19:21] <Beldar> Ruby_Vroom, Can you run in the terminal lsusb in ubuntu with the adapter plugged in and give any wifi info there to the channel.
[19:22] <Ruby_Vroom> took it upstairs and reconnected it to it's respective monitor and boom - no wifi?
[19:22] <shahhena95> someone please help !:-(
[19:22] <Brutus|> shahhena95: KDE is in the software center, if you open that you can install KDE
[19:22] <Ruby_Vroom> yes, i'll run upstairs and do that
[19:22] <eoo> no signal?
[19:22] <Brutus|> shahhena95: log off and on the lockscreen you should be able to change to KDE
[19:22] <whoever> rewtraw: how is your signal
[19:22] <Brutus|> shahhena95: KDE is called kubuntu-desktop
[19:22] <darkxploit> daftykins: ok i got your point now.. but what about sending someone a mail with a mail address like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:22] <NictraSavios> !enter | Ruby_Vroom
[19:23] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: sounds like a signal straingth issue
[19:23] <shahhena95> ohh okay ..!
[19:23] <Brutus|> shahhena95: Can't make it any easier then that :)
[19:23] <shahhena95> thank you so much :-)
[19:23] <daftykins> darkxploit: the 'from' address?
[19:23] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever: it worked fine with windows though....same situation, just diff OS
[19:23] <Brutus|> shahhena95: No problem at all
[19:23] <shahhena95> Brutus| : Thank you:-)
[19:24] <darkxploit> daftykins: yeahhh like i own a website.com …. i would like to have<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:24] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: there may not be support for it in ubuntu 13.x
[19:24] <Brutus|> Ruby_Vroom: beldar asked you to run lsusb in the terminal
[19:24] <Brutus|> should output the attached USB drives
[19:25] <darkxploit> daftykins: so that when u verify your mail u see its from my domain
[19:25] <daftykins> darkxploit: you can configure a gmail account with a 'send as'<EMAIL_ADDRESS>if you go into the settings
[19:25] <eoo> lsusb lists usb devices
[19:25] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: this is linux not windows
[19:25] <darkxploit> daftykins: you are a genius i did not know that
[19:25] <Brutus|> darkxploit: he is
[19:25] <p3rsist> How can I use rysnc to sync rooted remote and local folders and using a user ssh passworded private key without the shell prompting for the password?
[19:26] <Ruby_Vroom> lsusb report shows it recognizes the edimax
[19:26] <darkxploit> p3rsist: thatss very interesting indeed
[19:26] <rudjgaard> hi guys, I am having trouble upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10, someone willing to help me out?
[19:26] <roothorick> "linux-signed-image-3.13.0-6-generic"
[19:26] <darkxploit> rudjgaard: apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:26] <rudjgaard> i know
[19:26] <roothorick> am I right in thinking this means Ubuntu will actually be doing secure boot correctly? What keyset do I need in my firmware to take advantage of this?
[19:26] <rudjgaard> but update manager is crashing
[19:26] <rudjgaard> whenb launching upgrade
[19:26] <rudjgaard> this is the error
[19:26] <darkxploit> rudjgaard: what do u mean by crashing
[19:26] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1975615
[19:26] <Beldar> Ruby_Vroom, we want more than the name, we want the exact info shown by lsusb.
[19:27] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever: i don't understand why the signal would be ok on win and not on linux.
[19:27] <whoever> eoo: it appently is verry sinsitive  to signal
[19:27] <p3rsist> darkxploit: this is what I have for now: sudo rsync --hard-links --sparse --numeric-ids --delete -azhe\
[19:27] <p3rsist>   "ssh -i $HOME/.ssh/id_rsa" --rsync-path="sudo rsync"\
[19:27] <p3rsist>   $USER@remote:/root/test /
[19:27] <Ruby_Vroom> beldar: i'll have to run upstairs and write it all down then - i'm on my downstairs win7 machine since i can't get internet on the ubuntu machine
[19:28] <rudjgaard> I mean the gdk window will close after clicking upgrade and after downloading the release installer
[19:28] <darkxploit> p3rsist: its alien to me for the time being..
[19:28] <rudjgaard> OSError: Can not execute '/tmp/ubuntu-release-upgrader-dohyyg/saucy
[19:29] <rudjgaard> (this is usually caused by a system where /tmp "
[19:30] <rudjgaard> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'window_main'
[19:30] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: there are signal strenght issues with it, so it most likly is not going to be reliable , but keep tring hope she works for you
[19:31] <eoo> i think ive used an edimax one before
[19:31] <eoo> on a raspberry pi with no probs
[19:31] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever: crap. thanks! i'm reading that link....perhaps i'll run wire in the meantime
[19:32] <p3rsist> Hi guys. Under 13.10, what's the correct way to hold an ssh private key password? gpg ? ssh-agent?
[19:32] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: here you go, this is someones stepst that got theirs working, but assume, you have done them http://askubuntu.com/questions/79818/edimax-ew-7811un-usb-wireless-sees-network-but-fails-to-connect-to-it
[19:32] <darkxploit> rudjgaard:  ok i go it
[19:33] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: there are a couple different dounges that will work, that will cost you less then a 50' cable
[19:33] <darkxploit> rudjgaard: i think you should modify the repository
[19:33] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever: i did try those steps.  please share! i'm willing to hunt down another dongle.  i just grabbed this one because of rave reviews and a $10 pricetag
[19:34] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: if this is a desktop you generally will get better results with a card then a dongle
[19:34] <dangucci> hello i have setup pptp on ubuntu server authenticating with radius server but  i will like to throttle internet speed for some clients connected to the vpn .. any help in the form of scripts or radius supported attributes
[19:34] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: in my experience 10 bucks and linux spells issues
[19:34] <darkxploit> rudjgaard: noooo I'm lost.. too difficult for me
[19:35] <whoever> how ever worthe a shot , i would had done the same
[19:35] <pcdoctor> Hello everyone I am a new ubuntu user
[19:35] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever: ha, good to know. :)  like i said, this is my first attempt with linux.
[19:35] <pcdoctor> I need lots of help
[19:35] <roothorick> okay
[19:35] <roothorick> how do I install the Ubuntu PKpub?
[19:35] <rudjgaard> hmmm i already tried changing repo, i was on main server then switched to the search best one
[19:35] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[19:35] <pcdoctor> has anyone used firestorm viewer on ubuntu?
[19:36] <plop6669> hello
[19:36] <roothorick> oh! I don't need it to be
[19:36] <roothorick> so this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/SecureBoot is what's currently implemented in Trusty, right?
[19:37] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: for what it is worth i ditched windows about the time win7 came out, so i have a good idea of what apps will be an equilelant to the M$ ones
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> !find firestorm
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> pcdoctor  what's firestorm?
[19:38] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: if your a gammer, you will want a windows box (not a vm of windows )
[19:38] <pcdoctor> it's a client within the second life grid
[19:38] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: but othere then that most can be accomplshed just fine on liux
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> pcdoctor  great, and what's the second life grid?
[19:39] <osl> hello. i just toasted an old toshiba and am trying to learn how to install (get a Live OS up) over the network. this toshiba will not boot from USB, CD/DVD, etc. and i'm stuck at a "grub rescue>" screen. which solution is best on this page (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Server_and_network_installations)?
[19:39] <pcdoctor> http://www.secondlife.com
[19:40] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: did/are you reading the last link i posted about cards
[19:40] <pcdoctor> it's a virtual world
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> pcdoctor  some kind of game, is it?
[19:40] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever: i'm not a gamer but son is and it's his box
[19:41] <Ruby_Vroom> but he's 10, so it's mostly steam stuff.  reading now...
[19:41] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: you can dual boot it, or in the windows os create a vm of ubuntu
[19:41] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: don't forget "Daddy knows whats best" when he starts asking why
[19:42] <pcdoctor> yes
[19:42] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever: ha, Mom you mean. ;)
[19:43] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: ah, though her under the bus or was this her idea
[19:43] <pcdoctor> I also need to fix my printer driver too.  It's listed in my printer settings but I can't seem to print
[19:43]  * Ruby_Vroom is Ma Dukes
[19:44] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: and if anything goes wrong blame the family member you least like(or want your son to not like )
[19:44] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever: this link is for broadcom drivers only?
[19:44] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: yes broadcom is a big player, so there stuff is easier to get working
[19:45] <whoever> they are different model not makes
[19:45] <Ruby_Vroom> kk i'll dig up some broadcom stuff
[19:45] <whoever> sorrry for the confustion thee
[19:45] <whoever> *there
[19:45] <Ruby_Vroom> seems easier to just run a cable than mess with all this stuff though
[19:46] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: seeems , i have done it too, yes more direct, but "unsigtly" say the gf
[19:46] <plop6669> hello
[19:48] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever: unsightly at the cost of having internet. :)  how's the gf like using the library? lol
[19:48] <whoever> Ruby_Vroom: i tried that one, she busted my balls on that  one
[19:49] <Beldar> whoever, This is a world wide channel, try to keep it clean please. ;)
[19:49] <whoever> Beldar: sorry
[19:50] <pcdoctor> how do I update/install printer drivers in ubuntu 13.10?
[19:51] <whoever> they are different model not makes
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> !cups | pcdoctor start here
[19:54] <osl> is it possible to repair grub on machine_2 over the network? or boot boot-repair-disk on machine_2 over a network? machine_2 is unbootable.
[19:55] <tunage> my ubuntu apache vhost is failing. I get  NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts  on restart. httpd.conf  http://sprunge.us/BgRN  sites-available config  http://sprunge.us/dQIg
[19:57] <Ruby_Vroom> whoever: my buddy has 2 edimax adapters working on ubuntu laptops - so frustrating!
[19:58] <ffff> how can i figure out what ip address to allow w/ ufw if i want to be able to ssh w/ a server?
[19:59] <ffff> in other words, figure out what my ip address is.
[19:59] <ffff> i've done ifconfig, looked in system prefs, and checked my router settings-all the ip addresses on those are the same, but when i allow them on ufw it still doesn't work.
[19:59] <pcdoctor> pages not working
[20:00] <ffff> i've also accounted for subnet mask by doing x.y.z.0/24
[20:00] <tunage> ffff what are you trying to do?
[20:00] <FuuqUmiist> what is the shortcut to decorate and undecorate windows
[20:01] <ffff> tunage: sercure my server and make it so only my ip address can ssh into the ssh port.
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> ffff  use gufw
[20:03] <tunage> ffff iptables or hosts.allow /hosts.deny
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> ffff  and fwbuilder is more advanced
[20:03] <ffff> MonkeyDust: i don't need to change tools. ufw is perfectly fine, i've allowed denied access to all ports i need, and allowed only 80 and 433.
[20:03] <ffff> *i've denied access
[20:03] <TJ-> ffff: "iptables -P DROP && iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -s $YOUR_PUBLIC_IP -j ACCEPT" would be the basics; You can work that into ufw language
[20:04] <ffff> tunage: my understanding is ufw is a wrapper around iptables, and ufw is much easier to understand than iptables.
[20:04] <ffff> TJ-: oh i already know the ufw language, it's ufw allow from x.y.z.0/24 to any port 22
[20:04] <tunage> ffff exact same rules.
[20:04] <ffff> and if i only wanted the ssh protocol it'd be "to any port 22/ssh" or something like that
[20:04] <ffff> but my problem is
[20:05] <ffff> i don't know how to find the right ip address
[20:05] <TJ-> ffff: So see if "iptables -nvL INPUT" matches what you *think* ufw is doing
[20:05] <ffff> if i do ufw allow 22, i can ssh in through that port
[20:05] <ffff> TJ-: okay i'll try that
[20:05] <tunage> ffff post your iptables-save
[20:06] <rudjgaard> can anybody help with this error while upgrading release? OSError: Can not execute '/tmp/ubuntu-release-upgrader-dohyyg/saucy'  During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
[20:06] <TJ-> ffff: If what you're asking for is how to get your own public IP address, do "wget -qO- http://ipecho.net/plain ; echo"
[20:07] <ffff> TJ-: here's my iptables -nvL INPUT: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/82e721163116c3127644
[20:07] <ffff> tunage: i typed iptables-save and nothing returned
[20:07] <ffff> TJ-: i need to put my external ip address not my interal one?
[20:08] <FuuqUmiist> does anyone know?
[20:08] <tunage> anyone here nifty with apache vhost? my ubuntu apache vhost is failing. I get  NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts  on restart. httpd.conf  http://sprunge.us/BgRN  sites-available config  http://sprunge.us/dQIg  and I did use the a2ensite tool to initialize the subdomain
[20:09] <Aleksander> I'd like to install Ubuntu 13.10 on a LUKS/LVM prepared by myself, is there a simple way to configure newly-installed kernel to decrypt the root partition during boot?
[20:09] <tunage> ffff then you're not using iptables.  :/
[20:09] <ffff> tunage: i'm using ufw, would using that count as what you think of as "using iptables"?
[20:10] <tunage> ffff if it's a wrapper for iptables, it's missing the core. I know iptables very well.
[20:10] <TJ-> tunage: See http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#namevirtualhost
[20:10] <ffff> TJ-: fuck! it was my external ip address that i needed to add. thanks soo much!
[20:11] <ffff> TJ-: i have another question tho, isn't my external ip dynamic?
[20:11] <ffff> tunage: well i don't know enough about ufw to tell you how it's using iptables. maybe it's a replacement.
[20:13] <Beldar> ffff, Just a heads up but this is a no swearing channel. ;)
[20:13] <bekks> ufw is a frontend for iptables.
[20:14] <ffff> Beldar: oh really? this is the first no wearing channel i've joined then.
[20:14] <ffff> Beldar: my apoligies, unless this is a prank that happens on rookies or something.
[20:14] <tunage> TJ- the only difference between that link and my directive is VirtualHost <IP_ADDRESS>:80 because mine is VirtualHost *:80  for a very good reason and I have discussed this with #httpd. It should be *. This same exact directive with a minor subdomain name change is the only difference on a gentoo server. I really don't think it's the directive.
[20:14] <ffff> bekks: not sure the term "frontend" clarifies much for me.
[20:15] <Androo> Trying to learn upstart.  What might I look to when I have an upstart script in /etc/init that, while working fine with "service start <name>", won't start at boot?  I have "start on runlevel 2345" and "stop at runlevel 6" in the service's upstart config.
[20:15] <ffff> bekks: it's cool tho, i don't always need to know everything.
[20:15] <tunage> bekks why is it missing iptables-save? it's on my default install of ubuntu.
[20:15] <bekks> tunage: define "it" please.
[20:15] <ffff> bekks: me
[20:15] <ffff> bekks: why am i missing iptables-save
[20:16] <tunage> bekks same issue
[20:16] <TJ-> tunage: Have you run "apache2ctl configtest" ?
[20:17] <tunage>  NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts
[20:17] <tunage> Syntax OK
[20:17] <TJ-> tunage: So, you haven't got a vhost matching that
[20:18] <bekks> tunage: whats the relationship between ufw and your missing iptables file?
[20:18] <loa> what i can use for sticky notes under ubuntu?
[20:19] <sh0t> hi guys how do you access skype chat logs o Linux/ubuntu without using skype...
[20:19] <TJ-> ffff: "which iptables-save"
[20:19] <ffff> TJ-: it's all good, i just need to figure out if using my external ip is going to stab me in the back if in the future it changes in which case i won't be able to ssh back in.
[20:20] <loa> http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/steam-source-2-left-4-dead-2-valve-powerpoint,news-47060.html
[20:20] <Guest57109> anyone know any good applications for ubuntu
[20:20] <tunage> TJ- correct. I changed it to peacecoin.digitaldriller.com
[20:20] <wrapash> To do what, Guest57109?
[20:21] <Guest57109> anything just general applications
[20:21] <tunage> bekks iptables-save dumps your firewall rules and counters
[20:21] <bekks> tunage: I know - I just dont see any relation to my statement that ufw uses iptables.
[20:21] <airsoftmodels> Guest57109: world of goo is a fun game
[20:21] <TJ-> tunage: Is it working now?
[20:22] <tunage> bekks if it's missing, you are missing half of iptables.  :/
[20:22] <wrapash> Guest57109: also check for "xonotic"
[20:22] <bud1978> hi!!!
[20:24] <tunage> TJ- no sir, I adjusted the servername and added the domain in virtualhost, same exact error. http://sprunge.us/NaYi
[20:24] <TJ-> ffff: Correct; you'll probably need to get a static IP, or else go the proper way and configure the server with a VPN, such as openvpn
[20:24] <wrapash> Guest57109: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_Applications
[20:24] <Golynx> Guest57109: Ubuntu Software Center got alot to choose from
[20:26] <ffff> TJ-: there's a script to ping the hostname periodically and if the ip address changed update the firewall: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/91701/ufw-allow-traffic-only-from-a-domain-with-dynamic-ip-address this is really icky
[20:28] <tunage> ffff hypothetically, no. you're crossing layers which is really bad and unreliable. practically, you could play tricks with dynamic dns and nagios
[20:28] <tunage> ffff or even snort.
[20:29] <ffff> tunage: can't tell if snort is a tool or if you literally mean snort.
[20:30] <tunage> snort is a very extensive tool. it uses plugins like snot and mucus too.  http://snort.org/
[20:30] <pitoow> How do I enable MP3 preview on 12.04?
[20:31] <ffff> tunage i'm looking into a vpn right now. TJ-: can i setup openvpn on a remote server? or does it have to be a home server?
[20:34] <tunage> ffff a vpn is a layer 2 application. layer 2 does 'not' know word like kat or sighup or domain. only numbers like ip addresses
[20:34] <TJ-> ffff: I use openvpn, it means I can do router-to-router and client-to-router connections at the same time
[20:35] <Imdsm> Hi guys, I have a GTX 550 Ti, and have just installed 13.10. When trying to install nvidia's drivers, I now have a black screen. I know this is a very common problem, but I'm just wondering if 3rd party nvidia drivers are supported at the moment? Or is it just nouveau which works?
[20:36] <TJ-> tunage: VPN protocols can be layer 2 (bridged) or layer 3 (routed), depending on the specific implementation and configuration
[20:37] <ffff> tunage: i'm not sure why you explained that to me. why is that important to know?
[20:37] <ffff> TJ-: why would you want router-to-router connections if you yourself are always a client? it feels like to me you're allowing your router to have a better time w/o any benefits to oyu.
[20:38] <ffff> ah i'm such a noob and i love it.
[20:38] <tunage> ffff if you are trying to do anything with a hostname and trying to blend it with a layer 2 application, you have your hands full.
[20:38] <ffff> tunage: in other words it doesn't help me w/ my problem because it'd still need to use my external ip?
[20:38] <ffff> *my _dynamic_ external ip?
[20:39] <ffff> if that's the case, then TJ-, how would a vpn help me w/ my problem?
[20:40] <tunage> ffff on a static firewall, with static allow/deny, without a highlevel trick, you are going to lock yourself out. You need a better plan.
[20:40] <tunage> ffff or a static ip
[20:40] <ffff> tunage: f**k! this sucks. i guess a very small % of ppl have to deal w/ dynamic ips?
[20:40] <TJ-> tunage: To check the apache2 config, do this: "sudo sh -c '. /etc/apache2/envvars && apache2 -t -S -D DUMP_VHOSTS -f /etc/apache2/apache2.conf'  "
[20:40] <ffff> tunage: what are some possible better plans?
[20:41] <ffff> tunage: how long would it take me to get a static ip? i would need to talk w/ my isp right?
[20:41] <Titanium> is there a fast way to open a terminal on ubuntu?
[20:42] <ffff> why isn't my static internal ip exposed? why do i have an external ip wrapping my internal one?
[20:43] <TJ-> ffff: You configure your (ssh) server with a VPN. You configure your PC with the same VPN in client mode... your PC then connects to the server's public IP address (possibly by hostname), and establishes the VPN. There is now a *private* subnet with your PC and the server on. You can then ssh to the server using the server's *private* VPN IP address
[20:43] <Golynx> Titanium: ctrl+alt+t
[20:43] <tunage> TJ- it appears to be correct.  http://paste.ee/p/sVWOJ
[20:43] <Titanium> thanks, il see if that works
[20:43] <ffff> " You can purchase a static external IP address, but they are incredibly expensive." schisca.
[20:43] <Titanium> its still loading video recommendations of movies with termainal in thename :(
[20:44] <tunage> ffff no, they don't try and lock out the world, that way. what is the purpose of your 'absolute blocks/denies?'
[20:44] <Akiva-Mobile> Why is this for loop now working in my terminal?
[20:44] <Akiva-Mobile> for i in {0..10..2}
[20:44] <Akiva-Mobile> when I echo i, it returns "{0..10..2}"
[20:45] <ffff> tunage: this is an absolulte allow actually, only allow my ip address to ssh into my server.
[20:45] <phenster> hey everyone
[20:45] <phenster> I have a question regarding adding users
[20:45] <ffff> tunage: what do you mean "they don't try and lock out the world"? are you talking about isps?
[20:45] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | phenster
[20:45] <ffff> TJ-: still reading what you said.
[20:45] <tunage> ffff so you are trying to protect ssh. switch to a non standard port or use knockd
[20:45] <TJ-> ffff: see for examples and explanations: http://www.shorewall.net/OPENVPN.html
[20:46] <ffff> tunage: already am using a non standard port, want to secure it more.
[20:46] <ffff> tunage: is knockd an alternative to fail2ban?
[20:46] <TJ-> tunage: "<IP_ADDRESS>:80 www.peacecoin.digitaldriller.com (/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/peacecoin.digitaldriller.com:3)"
[20:46] <phenster> I want to make a "web" group and add a user to it. I perform a "groupadd web", but then when I try "useradd -g <username> web" I get error. what is the correct procedure? I want a grouo/user to create and own /var/www for Ruby web-applications.
[20:47] <Kroach> how do I upgrade from one LTS Hardware Enablement Stack to another?
[20:48] <TJ-> phenster: Use "adduser" ... it has easier forms such as "adduser <user> <group>"
[20:48] <tunage> ffff you shouldn't be seeing any attacks in your logs. this is where snort can really work. if you get a bunch of hits on a non standard port, that's live and you should know about it. you document the ip, you block it and switch the port again. if it persist, you have a much bigger problem you are dealing with. don't ignore your logs. this is basic security practices.
[20:49] <tunage> ffff knockd does have a fail rate though. you will need a back door.
[20:49] <ffff> TJ-: "your PC then connects to the server's public IP address (possibly by hostname), and establishes the VPN" if the server is a web server, meaning it's serving a web app, doesn't this mean all users of the app are going to be establishing a vpn?
[20:49] <ffff> TJ-: well actually doesn't it mean they wouldn't be able to establish a vpn because they don't have the client vpn setup?
[20:49] <Golynx> phenster: http://www.codephun.com/ubuntu-add-permissions-to-user-for-www-data/&q=set+recursive+permission+var/www&sa=X&ei=TcXnUvPXEvGv7AaM4YDYAg&ved=0CDsQFjAI
[20:49] <phenster> TJ-: I get "The user "..." does not exist" error.
[20:49] <tunage> TJ- where does that go?
[20:50] <phenster> Golynx: invalid URL - 404
[20:50] <ffff> tunage: oh god i have to watch the logs? that's not my definition of a good film.
[20:50] <AnthonyUK> Evening all, I installed linux on my homeserver but I have had problems getting my 2 tv tuner cards working, I did a install of linux on another computer and they all work. I was wondering is this down the motherboard drivers ?
[20:50] <TJ-> ffff: tunage You ought not to even expose ssh publicly unless there is no other way. VPNs provide security and ease of access to the entire remote server/network, not just SSH protocol.
[20:51] <tunage> ffff look into snort. somebody or something MUST be watching your logs ALWAYS!!!
[20:51] <TJ-> ffff: If you want to allow widespread access using ssh then the primary step is not to use passwords, only certificates for authentication.
[20:51] <bekks> AnthonyUK: No.
[20:51] <ffff> TJ-: already am using public/private keys.
[20:52] <bekks> ffff: Which is worthless without checking the logs regularly.
[20:52] <ffff> this is incredible, this is teh first time i'm settign up a server, and it looks like i did some damn good research.
[20:52] <AnthonyUK> bekks: one pc is intel the other amd, will that do it?
[20:52] <bekks> AnthonyUK: Sure.
[20:52] <chaotix> hi all...  so i am trying out midori web browser, and i like it, except for one problem.  i create a web app launcher for, say, facebook or gmail, and for some reason each time i close and open the launcher i have to re log-in....   is there any fix for this?
[20:52] <Golynx> http://www.codephun.com/ubuntu-add-permissions-to-user-for-www-data/
[20:53] <AnthonyUK> yikes
[20:53] <^charlie> is there a method for popping up a custom prompt during ubuntu installation, but before first boot?  i want to collect a string from the user and store it to a file for use after the installer reboots the system
[20:53] <phenster> Golynx: "sudo adducer <username> group" gives error of user NOT existing. do I create a user first, before adding it to a group? can I not do two together?
[20:53] <AnthonyUK> so basically if i want these tuners to all work in the same machine I have to make sure it is an intel computer
[20:53] <^charlie> i am using an unattended setup already for 12.04LTS
[20:53] <ffff> TJ-: do you want to address my concern about what happens if i setup a vpn on a web server?
[20:53] <TJ-> ffff: Good. Having a VPN gives you a safety-net for administrative access if ssh fails for some reason. I always run a 2nd sshd on the private LAN/VPN IPs of the server so even if the public IP bound sshd fails for some reason, I have full access.
[20:54] <tunage> TJ- where did you want me to apply that code?
[20:54] <TJ-> tunage: what code?
[20:54] <tunage> tunage: "<IP_ADDRESS>:80 www.peacecoin.digitaldriller.com (/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/peacecoin.digitaldriller.com:3)"
[20:54] <bekks> AnthonyUK: No.
[20:54] <bekks> AnthonyUK: The TV tuner cards are not interested in the CPU of your computer.
[20:54] <tunage> TJ- it looks coorect to me
[20:54] <TJ-> tunage: You need to pay more attention to your own logs! I was quoting you your own output, which shows why the vhost isn't accessible
[20:55] <AnthonyUK> I have installed ubuntu about 20 times since last night, I am at aloss on how to get these cards properly detected
[20:55] <bekks> AnthonyUK: Make sure you get the correct drivers - the CPU is irrelevant.
[20:55] <tunage> TJ- those match
[20:55] <ffff> TJ-: so you could have a channel to ssh through publicly, and another channel to ssh through privatel behind the vpn firewally?
[20:55] <AnthonyUK> can I just copy drivers out of the 2nd test computer?
[20:55] <ffff> *firewall
[20:55] <tunage> TJ- I am not seeing the error.
[20:55] <TJ-> tunage: You do know what the IP address  "<IP_ADDRESS>" is?
[20:55] <bekks> phenster: First create the group, then the user, then add the user to the group.
[20:55] <phenster> bekks: thank you!
[20:56] <Golynx> phenster: create the group first then add the user
[20:56] <tunage> TJ- localhost. where is it pulling that from?
[20:56] <Golynx> Make sure you set the ownerships correctly too
[20:57] <TJ-> ffff: Yes, but not just for ssh. It means you could access other private services that aren't exposed to the public interface at all, such as private web services for administration, internal mail server relays, SNMP monitoring, and so on
[20:57] <TJ-> tunage: Because your VirtualHost and NameVirtualHost aren't matching any IP. What IPs is the apache daemon binding to?
[20:58] <ffff> TJ-: what are some examples of "web services for administration"? and internal mail server relays, they would still relay externally obviously right?
[20:58] <tunage> TJ- where does ubuntu apache bind the ip?
[20:58] <tunage> TJ- that <IP_ADDRESS> is coming from somewhere.
[20:58] <ffff> TJ-: so help me understand the "establishes the VPN" step more. i connect w/ the server's public ip or hostname, then what happens?
[20:59] <ffff> TJ-: do i connect on a specific port?
[21:00] <ffff> TJ- tunage also how often does a dynamic external ip address change? "Your home router IP address is very unlikely to change once it is established."
[21:00] <ffff> just found that quote online.
[21:02] <ffff> TJ- tunage and how does a guy like this do it? in the section titled "Set Up a Firewall" he says enter the cmd "ufw allow from {your-ip} to any port 22"
[21:02] <ffff> http://plusbryan.com/my-first-5-minutes-on-a-server-or-essential-security-for-linux-servers
[21:02] <TJ-> tunage: This is the kind of output you'd expect: http://pastebin.com/GWD6SSxw
[21:02] <AnthonyUK> back, I'm still at a loss to understand why installing ubuntu on one machine gets all the tuners detected while on the other machine I can only just about get one working but that is when the other pci card is removed, on top of that the dual tuner only shows up as one tuner
[21:03] <TJ-> ffff: The public IP of your home router is assigned by your ISP, and can change after your modem has disconnected for any reason
[21:03] <bekks> AnthonyUK: Which drivers in details did you use, which cards in details - without those details it is pointless to discuss why something happened you didnt describe in detail.
[21:03] <TJ-> AnthonyUK: Maybe the PCI bridges aren't wide enough?
[21:04] <TJ-> AnthonyUK: Try adding "pci=realloc" to the kernel's command-line
[21:06] <Es0teric> what is the best way to add a new user through the command line?
[21:06] <bekks> Es0teric: "adduser".
[21:06] <Es0teric> bekks yes but what are the best params to use?
[21:07] <bekks> Es0teric: There are "best" parameters. There are required and optional parameters.
[21:07] <bekks> *no best
[21:07] <TJ-> ffff: With OpenVPN the best operating mode is over the UDP protocol, using a TLS-Auth (TA) key to prevent DDOS. Then your VPN clients connect to port 1194 UDP on the servers' public IP(s), swap certificates for authentication, before the VPN is established. In routed (layer 3) mode there will be additional routes added to the routing tables at both ends, and you can optionally redirect all traffic through the VPN (or not), depending on policy requirements of your
[21:07] <TJ-> organisation.
[21:08] <Es0teric> bekks so when i do adduser what does it add by default?
[21:08] <Es0teric> does it add a home folder associated with it/
[21:08] <TJ-> Es0teric: "man adduser" see the section "Add a normal user"
[21:09] <Es0teric> TJ- ok so if i add a user, i want it to have sudo privelages
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> Es0teric  you can do that with sudo visudo
[21:10] <bnoji2> Aside from extra apps installed, is there any difference between installing ubuntu and then using xfce versus using Xubunu?
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> some questions... :-)
[21:11] <gp5st> is there a way to have multiple different environments for apt installs? like python virtenv or rvm's gem environments?
[21:19] <bekks> Es0teric: Nothing. You have to specify what to do.
[21:22] <D4rthB4n3> can someone help me with vlans or does someone know where i would get help with that ?
[21:22] <bekks> D4rthB4n3: How about just asking your actual question? :)
[21:24] <D4rthB4n3> ok so im trying to congigure a network with vlans i got my server wich is connected to switch (extreme networks black diamond 6808) from that switch it goes to another switch (extreme networks summit 48) and from there it goes to the client pcs
[21:24] <D4rthB4n3> so taggs are as following
[21:25] <PsychoX75> so... how long before the next version of ubuntu comes out?
[21:26] <ffff> TJ-: "This may not work for you, but I have a similar situation when I'm at home or I'm travelling. To solve it I set up a VPN at the office (we use Meraki hardware, so it was literally just a click) and connect to this first - then connect to the server.
[21:26] <ffff> "
[21:26] <ffff> TJ-: reply: "I did consider that approach, but the closest thing I have to an office is my home (with a dynamic IP) anyway!
[21:26] <ffff> I thought of setting up a VPN on a server, but all that would really do is move the problem from securing SSH to securing VPN."
[21:26] <ffff> TJ-: i totally agree, i don't think setting up a vpn is the way to go.
[21:27] <D4rthB4n3> server is on port 3:1 which is untagged then from port 5:1 untagged it goes to port 49 tagged id 2 host vlan and then my pc is on port 48 untagged same vlan
[21:27] <Es0teric> bekks yeah i got it thanks
[21:28] <D4rthB4n3> but i cant ping my server
[21:28] <bekks> D4rthB4n3: Do you know what tagged and untagged mean? :)
[21:28] <D4rthB4n3> i figured that the first switch somehow filtered the tags out or somehting
[21:28] <TJ-> ffff: The VPN server would be the Internet-based server running ssh, not your local (home) network
[21:28] <D4rthB4n3> yes
[21:29] <ffff> TJ-: right but wouldn't i sitll have to secure the vpn on the server?
[21:30] <D4rthB4n3> i want the first switch to forward all traffic without looking at the tags and they need to stay the same
[21:31] <TJ-> ffff: That's the point of openpvn using UDP and TLS-Auth, as I said, it mitigates DDOS attempts. The clients each have their own client certificate which they also present, which must be signed by your own CA.
[21:32] <ffff> TJ-: thank you for your help, i really appreciate it. i'm defs going to keep this in mind for the future, but right now my head's a bit overwhelemed. gonna go shower. cheers!
[21:34] <soman> Hi all. When will be 12.04.4. available in downloads in Ubuntu website?
[21:35] <alami> hello, i have download tor browser for ubuntu
[21:35] <alami> hello, i have download tor browser for ubuntu
[21:35] <alami> and after i startet it i can't write wuth the keyboard
[21:36] <bekks> D4rthB4n3: Do not query me. Keep your issue in this channel.
[21:37] <bnoji2> hm.
[21:37] <D4rthB4n3> well then answer or just say u cant help me
[21:37] <bnoji2> Ubuntu 13.10 installer does not recognize the existing Win 8.1 install
[21:38] <bekks> D4rthB4n3: i will NOT answer in a query. KEep the issue in this channel.
[21:38] <D4rthB4n3> well then not
[21:40] <MonkeyDust> D4rthB4n3  maybe someone else in the channel knows
[21:40] <D4rthB4n3> if someone does please tell me
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> D4rthB4n3  as soon as someone can, s/he will :)
[21:41] <D4rthB4n3> thanks :D
[21:42] <jhutchins> D4rthB4n3: I think what you need is documentation for your switches.  Your question doesn't seem to involve Ubuntu at all.
[21:44] <D4rthB4n3> i know it doesnt thats why i asked if someone know since it is not really in the docu i have for my switch and i thoung someone might know
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> D4rthB4n3  try ##networking (that's double #)
[21:45] <TJ-> He has been, for a while now :)
[21:45] <D4rthB4n3> MonkeyDust, yeah im on that right now thx
[21:49] <moises1> quien le va al bacelona
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> !es
[21:50] <moises1> q?
[21:51] <bnoji2> Hopefully boot repair works.
[21:51] <bnoji2> otherwise I'm wiping win 8.
[21:53] <nobitanobi> Hi guys I have a question. If I have installed apache and I want to have some Php projects in my /home directory instead of /var/www, what should I do?
[21:53] <jhutchins> nobitanobi: Symlink
[21:54] <bnoji2> I have a feeling this install is not going to work.
[21:54] <nobitanobi> jhutchins, I have tried using symlinks. But I get this: You don't have permission to access /testphp/prova.php on this server.
[21:54] <FrameFever> I have minimized a program in vmware
[21:54] <jhutchins> nobitanobi: Many other options as well, define the folder in the httpd.conf.d as a path on the server, alow exec.
[21:54] <bnoji2> We'll see if it breaks win 8
[21:54] <FrameFever> and I cannot see it annymore
[21:54] <FrameFever> how can I pop it up again?
[21:54] <nobitanobi> jhutchins, and I am not sure which kind of permissions should I set, and where
[21:55] <jhutchins> Set group www-server (I think that's it).
[21:55] <FrameFever> I cannot use ALT+Tab in vmware
[21:55] <bnoji2> grub2 installing.
[21:55] <jhutchins> FrameFever: Hit ctrl-alt again.
[21:55] <bnoji2> i have a feeling this isnt going to work as expected.
[21:55] <jhutchins> FrameFever: You can only treat it as a normal window if you have the GUI VMware tools installed.
[21:55] <nobitanobi> ok
[21:55] <nobitanobi> let's see
[21:56] <FrameFever> jhutchins: don't know if its installed
[21:57] <FrameFever> maybe there is a workaorund in ubunut
[21:57] <FrameFever> where I can maximize a pgrogram without alt+tab?
[21:58] <FrameFever> I mean thats more a general ubuntu question, when can I see all currently opened programs?
[21:58] <Coolkal> FrameFever: Run top
[21:58] <Coolkal> FrameFever: Or ps aux
[21:59] <bnoji2> Ok. Ubuntu install broke windows boot.
[21:59] <FrameFever> Coolkal: no, I mean, I want to see it, not in a console
[21:59] <FrameFever> I want that every gui program poped up
[22:00] <Coolkal> FrameFever: Depends on what WM you're using
[22:00] <FrameFever> or something like a task bar
[22:00] <jhutchins> bnoji2: Ok, but update-grub should detect it and allow grub to load it.
[22:00] <Coolkal> FrameFever: Do you use Unity?
[22:01] <MonkeyDust> FrameFever  ubuntu classic and lubuntu have taskbar
[22:01] <MonkeyDust> have a taskar*
[22:01] <FrameFever> I have gnome classic installed
[22:02] <MonkeyDust> FrameFever  logout, switch, login
[22:03] <Coolkal> FrameFever: why don't you put your other window in another workspace?
[22:03] <Guest92828> c'è nessuno??
[22:05] <tab1293> I accidentally overwrote a libreoffice document with an older version of the document. Is there any way to recover the previous version of the doc? I already checked my backup folder but it is not there
[22:06] <whoever> tab1293: edit > undo
[22:06] <whoever> tab1293: untill you get back to it
[22:06] <tab1293> whoever, not an option
[22:07] <TJ-> tab1293: You could try runing "photorec" on the (unmounted) file-system, and then grepping the recovered fragments for unique strings belonging to your document.
[22:08] <bnoji2> jhutchins: shouldnt it have run update-grub on install?
[22:09] <bnoji2> I just ran it, but it has a problem.
[22:09] <bnoji2> error: cannot load image
[22:10] <bnoji2> So, I can boot win 8, but not directly.
[22:10] <bnoji2> I have to manually select it from the UEFI launcher
[22:10] <bnoji2> exiting from grub2
[22:10] <bnoji2> kinda dumb.
[22:10] <guntbert> !enter | bnoji2
[22:12] <Coolkal> bnoji2: Have you tried manually editing your grub config to add Windows to it?
[22:12] <ethern0t> need some help, ubuntu times in times changes my keyboard
[22:13] <bnoji2> Coolkal: not yet.
[22:13] <bnoji2> I see references to boot-repair, but i cant find it in 13.10
[22:13] <bnoji2> "Run Boot-Repair --> Advanced Options --> tick Restore EFI backups --> Apply."
[22:14] <bnoji2> I can't find boot-repair anywhere though.
[22:14] <madyourse> Windows should be put out of business. They have crippled operating system development to long.
[22:14] <bnoji2> If I didn't need Windows for work, I would have wiped this machine.
[22:14] <bnoji2> yay. now it locked up logging in.
[22:15] <guntbert> bnoji2: easy on <enter> please
[22:16] <madyourse> bnoji2: look how telecommunications flourished and exploded after they busted up ma BELL. Same would happen if they shut Microsoft's doors to operating systems.
[22:17] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | madyourse no need for any ranting
[22:19] <bnoji2> Coolkal: I'm not familiar with Grub 2. Where so I find the menu entry for win 8?
[22:20] <bnoji2> I checked in /boot but I haven't done this in forever.
[22:20] <lapalu> interesting!
[22:21] <Beldar> bnoji2, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:23] <bnoji2> Beldar: If i run os-prober, it recognizes the "Windows Boot Manager"
[22:23] <bnoji2> I'm assuming I need boot-repair to create a backup of the windows boot (since it overwrites it for ubuntu) in order to chain load it properly?
[22:24] <bnoji2> I'm assuming I can install debian without a bootloader and then somehow add an entry to ubuntu's signed grub2 loader to boot debian (using secure boot) ?
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> bnoji2: thats no the case for uefi
[22:26] <Beldar> bnoji2, You mentioned you could not find bootrepair, I just gave a link is all.
[22:26] <bnoji2> I just realized I needed to add a repository for it.
[22:26] <bnoji2> Thank you.
[22:27] <user__> test
[22:29] <Beldar> bnoji2, Besides the help here, there is a link to this app devlopers thread at the ubuntu forum, the bootinfo summary generated is for diagnostics. That thread has focused users using that summary to give great help, along with your detailed description.
[22:30] <bnoji2> It seems to have worked if I turn of Secure Boot.
[22:30] <bnoji2> boot-repair wanted me to turn it off, but now it worked as-is...
[22:31] <Beldar> bnoji2, Cool sounds like your set.
[22:32] <roothorick> er... why is nvidia-319 installing nvidia-331?
[22:33] <hitsujiTMO> roothorick: that's a good mystery
[22:33] <Beldar> why is the sky blue and the birds sing?
[22:34] <roothorick> more importantly, how do I make sure Xorg is using 319 and not 331? The system has a GeForce 210
[22:34] <Beldar> roothorick, Any PPA's say xswat involved?
[22:35] <hitsujiTMO> roothorick: it seems 319 is no longer available because of this behaviour.
[22:35] <hitsujiTMO> Beldar: this is the behaviour now of 12.04
[22:35] <Beldar> hitsujiTMO, Ah, I was wondering, I don't have any nvidia cards
[22:36] <Briareos> hi all, i have an older dell mini with bmc4312 wireless; on 13.10 fresh install + latest updates i'm trying to install the binary driver via bcmwl-kernel-sources via the softerwa & updates applet, but applying the changes never completes
[22:36] <Briareos> any log files or things i can poke at to get a better idea why?
[22:37] <roothorick> Briareos: I hate to say it but go back to Windows or get a different card/system. I spent months and months and months fighting with that specific Broadcom chip and ultimately gave up.
[22:37] <Briareos> it worked fine with 10.xx LTS
[22:37] <Briareos> which i was using until 30 minutes ago
[22:38] <bekks> the bcm4312 works fine for me.
[22:38] <Briareos> lsmod shows b43, bcma, mac80211, cfg80211 loaded
[22:38] <hitsujiTMO> !bcm | Briareos maybe try an alternative driver from here
[22:38] <bekks> Briareos: It works like a charm with 12.04 e.g.
[22:38] <roothorick> the issue I had is it would get confused by the school WiFi and freeze
[22:39] <roothorick> and by "freeze" I mean it would not do ANYTHING until I completely rebooted
[22:39] <MonkeyDust> Briareos  i was thinking the same as bekks : try 12.04
[22:39] <CookiesRgooD> hey guys. I'm trying to find a laptop that would run any form of linux for under 250
[22:39] <Briareos> yeah i poked at taht a bit but didn't see anything specific to 13.xx
[22:39] <roothorick> and it did that under every driver I could find and get te work
[22:39] <Briareos> will give them a shot
[22:39] <CookiesRgooD> and thats pref under 14"
[22:39] <MonkeyDust> CookiesRgooD  #ubuntu-offtopic, maybe
[22:39] <CookiesRgooD> true
[22:40] <roothorick> Beldar: I have three PPAs but not xswat. QTSixA, Steam, and XBMC
[22:41] <darkxploit> guys do u recommend postfix for mail forwarding ???
[22:41] <aleksander> I have a problem with installing a new kernel, as it passes improper arguments to mkinitramfs: http://pastebin.com/LAhiuaLA - how to check what passes them exactly?
[22:41] <Beldar> roothorick, My question turns out to not be relevant, as addressed by another helper.
[22:42] <bekks> darkxploit: I'd recommend postfix as MTA.
[22:42] <darkxploit> bekks: is it not a danger due to spam
[22:42] <roothorick> oh what the hell
[22:42] <bekks> darkxploit: That depends on the configuration done by you.
[22:42] <roothorick> nvidia-319 just redirects to nvidia-331
[22:43] <roothorick> but nvidia-331 DOES NOT support my GPU
[22:43] <roothorick> 319.xx does
[22:43] <darkxploit> bekks: hmm ok.. but what is the best mat would u recommend
[22:43] <darkxploit> mta^
[22:43] <bekks> !best | darkxploit
[22:43] <bekks> darkxploit: It all depends on your configuration.
[22:43] <Beldar> roothorick, My guess is a back to the driver that works if needed and lock it.
[22:44] <darkxploit> bekks: hmm ok..thnkxx.. still hunting for tutorials on youtube to set up postfix
[22:45] <roothorick> hell with it, PPA time
[22:45] <bekks> darkxploit: Forget those crap. Use the official postfix documenation or the ubuntu wiki.
[22:45] <darkxploit> bekks: ok sir
[22:47] <iam> When i try to install xubuntu, it thinks that my whole hard drive is unallocated
[22:47] <iam> when i have windows 7 already on it
[22:47] <iam> and a special partition for xubuntu to install to
[22:47] <iam> does anyone knows how to fix this?
[22:48] <Briareos> oh sweet
[22:48] <bekks> !dualboot | iam
[22:48] <Briareos> apt-get --reinstall install bcmwl-kernel-sources worked just fine
[22:49] <Briareos> someone with wiki edit privs may wish to update taht there is at least one anecodtal report of similar steps working fine on 13.xx
[22:50] <iam> bekks, i just read through that, and it doesn't have a solution to my problem
[22:50] <iam> the installation is working perfectly, it is just not recognizing what is on my hard drive
[22:51] <iam> also, i already asked this question in #xubuntu, and nobody had a solution
[22:51] <iam> (that actually worked)
[22:51] <iam> in windows everything is fine and it shows all my partitions correctly
[22:52] <imcnanie> Hi guys, I have an asus laptop with uefi running xubuntu 13.10, but my fan control is always on high
[22:52] <imcnanie> I'm afraid it will burn out my fan
[22:52] <imcnanie> I also cant get pwmconfig to work
[22:53] <Sia-> hi their
[22:53] <roothorick> is there no PPA that's just the various nV drivers without bleeding edge X stuff?
[22:54] <Sia-> if i close the laptop doesn't suspend but screenlock. Any idea what's wrong?
[22:54] <bekks> roothorick: newer nvidia drivers require bleeding edge X stuff.
[22:54] <roothorick> bekks: I really doubt that.
[22:54] <iam> is there a better place to ask my question, i really want to get xubuntu 13.10 working on my laptop
[22:54] <imcnanie> has anyone had problems with uefi and fan controls?
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> Sia-  system settings > power
[22:56] <bekks> roothorick: Then you should read about the requirements of the drivers.
[22:57] <MonkeyDust> iam  do you have the same issue with 12.04?
[22:57] <iam> MonkeyDust, i haven't tried 12.04 yet
[22:58] <iam> right now i only have 13.10 :P
[22:58] <iam> i guess i could try 12.04
[22:58] <iam> MonkeyDust, what is the difference between them?
[22:58] <iam> is it noticeable?
[22:58] <MonkeyDust> iam  what medium are you using? usb stick or dvd?
[22:58] <iam> MonkeyDust, i am booting from USB
[22:58] <MonkeyDust> iam  ok, put 12.04 on it and try that
[22:59] <iam> ok.
[22:59]  * iam downloads
[23:00] <roothorick> okay so, nvidia's website was confusing me
[23:00] <bnoji2> Now, the next step..figure out how to get ubuntu's signed loader to boot debian.
[23:00] <roothorick> they're continuing the 304 line for the 210
[23:00] <iam> MonkeyDust, this one "Latest LTS release: 12.04, Precise Pangolin" ?
[23:01] <jhutchins> iam: 12.04 is the latest Long Term Support version and is known to work pretty well with most hardware. The 2013 versions have some problems with some video cards, particularly 13.10.
[23:01] <PowerPenguin> I have seen some cool looking desktops that are all just running tex/console mode (no gui nonsense) and its all laid out in easy to see way with some magic to move between windows. Does anyone know what application does that? Or is it a special file manager?
[23:02] <bekks> PowerPenguin: A tiling desktop will do.
[23:02] <roothorick> PowerPenguin: something in the twm, ratpoison etc family
[23:03] <PowerPenguin> bekks: Thanks.
[23:03] <ianorlin> screen can do that without using a GUI but is a bit hard to learn
[23:03] <PowerPenguin> roothorick: I will give that a trye.
[23:03] <PowerPenguin> what about tmux?
[23:03] <MonkeyDust> screen <3
[23:03] <bekks> screen > * :)
[23:04] <ianorlin> screen is also useful in if you accidently close something you can do screen -r and bring it back
[23:05] <MonkeyDust> and even logout, then use screen -r or screen -dr
[23:05] <MonkeyDust> logout and back in*
[23:14] <bnoji2> ok. boot-repair made things worse.
[23:15] <bnoji2> Still same problem in secure boot mode, but now with added errors. )
[23:16] <bnoji2> booting without secure boot shows 2 ubuntu entries and 2 windows entries in grub
[23:18] <bnoji2> i wish debian would boot properly with uefi
[23:18] <bnoji2> i cant stand this crap.
[23:19] <philtrAlt> i am in the middle of installing/updating the os on a dell pc and have come across a bunch of NVIDIA drivers in the additional drivers settings, do I need to download all ofthese?
[23:20] <philtrAlt> currently i am looking at "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (post-release updates)(Version 173-updates)" and "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (post-release updates)(version 304-updates)"
[23:20] <bnoji2> is there a way to have boot-repair undo everything it did?
[23:20] <bnoji2> It broke more than it fixed.
[23:21] <philtrAlt> and am debating whether I need to get the former driver considering i just activated NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver(version 304)
[23:21] <Donald_ET3> How can root write to an external hard drive which has no write bit?
[23:22] <Donald_ET3> chmod is not working
[23:22] <Bashing-om> philtrAlt: Those are "options" in Additional Drivers, that one may dpwnload if needed. If you are happy with the drivers that the installer chose, leave well enough alone.
[23:22] <rww> Donald_ET3: NTFS?
[23:22] <Donald_ET3> How did you know. O_O
[23:22] <rww> Donald_ET3: did you mount it at the command-line perchance?
[23:22] <bekks> Donald_ET3: chmod does not work on NTFS :)
[23:22] <Donald_ET3> Not originally.
[23:22] <philtrAlt> oh alright, good stuff thanks for clearing that up
[23:23] <Titanium> how do you do permissions on files in linux?
[23:23] <Donald_ET3> D:
[23:23] <rww> hrm. usually if the whole partition is read-only, it's because it was mounted with ntfs instead of ntfs-3g
[23:23] <rww> but GUI is usually smart enough to not do that
[23:23] <rww> and yeah, you don't use chmod on NTFS partitions
[23:23] <Donald_ET3> This distro does not have ntfs-3g.
[23:24] <Donald_ET3> So, I should reformat.
[23:24] <rww> !info ntfs-3g
[23:24] <Donald_ET3> What FS do you recommend
[23:24] <rww> if you're not using a *buntu, go ask your actual distro's support channel :\
[23:24] <rww> depends on your requirements
[23:24] <MonkeyDust> Donald_ET3  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[23:25] <philtrAlt> i know "rtfm" and currently am in the process but, where in the file system can i find currently installed versions of python and its related components
[23:25] <jrib> philtrAlt: why?
[23:25] <Donald_ET3> "cat /etc/issue" shows "Trisquel GNU/Linux 6.0 \n \l"
[23:26] <rww> talk to the Trisquel folks then...
[23:26] <Donald_ET3> Fine...
[23:26] <philtrAlt> because i want to see if 3.3 is installed
[23:26] <MonkeyDust> Donald_ET3  it's not supported here
[23:26] <jrib> philtrAlt: apt-cache policy python3
[23:26] <Donald_ET3> Really? It is very similar.
[23:27] <jrib> philtrAlt: and you can try python3 -V
[23:27] <Bashing-om> philtrAlt: "rtfm" is not a part of our philosophy .. for what is installed, there are a number of tools. try -> dpkg -l python <- .
[23:27] <rww> yep, really. each distro channel handles its own distro, and not other distros
[23:27] <rww> we handle #ubuntu and not derivatives. #debian handles Debian and not derivatives (including Ubuntu), etc.
[23:27] <rww> less confusion that way
[23:27] <MonkeyDust> Donald_ET3  similar, but now you are confronted with a differnce
[23:27] <bnoji2> Ok. That was a big waste of time.
[23:28] <bnoji2> boot-repair made the system in-bootable.
[23:28] <Donald_ET3> Okay, thanks for the info. :)
[23:28] <bnoji2> er, un-bootable.
[23:28] <philtrAlt> good to hear, not part of my philo either
[23:29] <bnoji2> Is there a way to undo whatever Ubuntu install or boot-repair did?