[13:24] <chroot> i can't login gui in 11.10 after upgrade
[13:24] <gry> hello, I upgraded to oneiric, it says 'waiting for network configuration' and I had to 'service gdm start' to see the login screen, what can you suggest, please?
[13:24] <mx> thank you all so far for your answers (:
[13:24] <falstaff> sgs2_usr, No, I am not sure!  But it does make sense .. the buttons are there but only show when needed.
[13:24] <chroot> who should i do with it
[13:24] <jatt> but it's not absolutely necessary to use 64bit, you can use 32bit too in those cases
[13:24] <chroot> and console is ok
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> reisio: canon don't make 64bit driver debs, as don't brother. So installing it will not be a smooth endevour at all
[13:24] <shell> gry:by clicking the "do not show again" button at the bottom of the screen.It use to appear when the connection is established
[13:24] <RaTTuS|BIG> if you have more than 4GB RAM then 64bit is teh way to go .,..
[13:24] <sgs2_usr> falstaff: does yours like that?
[13:24] <bhavesh> Do I have to give special permissions or contact my ISP if I want to connect my internet wire to another computer?
[13:24] <reisio> ActionParsnip: be a piece of cake, not that he has either of those
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> reisio: you don't know that
[13:25] <reisio> of course I do
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> reisio: not for sure
[13:25] <reisio> yup, fo sho
[13:25] <reisio> ask mx
[13:25] <shell> gry:by clicking the "do not show again" button at the bottom of the screen.It use to appear when the connection is established
[13:25] <rherault> join #unbuntu-fr
[13:26] <mx> i get busy installing now, so bye and thank you all. (:
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> reisio: there are a small number of reasons to use 32bit, mainly by bad support by 3rd parties
[13:26] <kelvinella> whenever a problem is maximized, the unity bar cant be open
[13:26] <falstaff> sgs2_usr, I gave up on unity!  I am using Xfce -- like it a lot better!
[13:26] <kelvinella> even pressing window key
[13:26] <sgs2_usr> falstaff: ah, okie :)
[13:26] <reisio> ActionParsnip: indeed, so small one needn't take a default position of using 32-bit
[13:26] <jatt> unless you are doing heavy number crunching with your computer you won't notice the difference between 32bit and 64bit
[13:27] <Pauluntu> lets say unity decides to get a stick in its butt :P is there a keyboard command to restart unity without rebooting the whole pc?
[13:27] <Duelisti> Using 10.04 netbook edition, when I try to turn the visual effects to normal or extra, it doesn't change anything and once I close appearance settings and look at them again, it's set to "none" again. Visual Effects do work with different versions, so that can't be it. Any help?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> reisio: true but saying to use 64bit is bad by the same token
[13:27] <reisio> you would if you measured scientifically
[13:27] <reisio> what people do and don't notice doesn't particularly impress me :p
[13:27] <reisio> how about you?
[13:27] <reisio> ActionParsnip: nah
[13:27] <falstaff> sgs2_usr, If I were wrong someone would have corrected my mistake??
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> reisio: yes, its the same difference exactly
[13:27] <reisio> paying for a 64-bit proc and using 32-bit software is bad
[13:27] <reisio> ActionParsnip: nah
[13:27] <gry> shell, ok
[13:27] <sgs2_usr> falstaff: i guess all are using Xfce here :D
[13:28] <jatt> makes no difference when using chrome and browsing the web
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> reisio: it is if you think about it
[13:28] <reisio> ActionParsnip: nah
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> "(14:26:34) reisio: ActionParsnip: indeed, so small one needn't take a default position of using 32-bit"   so automatically saying use 64bit if you have a 64bit CPU is EXACTLY the same, you just changed 32bit for 64bit in the sentence
[13:29] <reisio> but it isn't the same
[13:29] <isis___> hello, im using unity 11.10, how do I configure the minimize, close buttons on the right of the window?? thanks
[13:29] <reisio> because his processor is 64-bit
[13:29] <Duelisti> Using 10.04 netbook edition, when I try to turn the visual effects to normal or extra, it doesn't change anything and once I close appearance settings and look at them again, it's set to "none" again. Visual Effects do work with different versions, so that can't be it. Any help?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> reisio: yes, that's why its the same difference
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> reisio: the statement is the same, but the difference is the arch, the logic and mindset in the sentence is identical
[13:29] <reisio> ActionParsnip: but it isn't the same, because his processor is 64-bit
[13:29] <dc5ala> Pauluntu, you could try unity --replace, if that does not help unity --reset
[13:30] <reisio> ActionParsnip: wouldn't matter if it were, there's more to a discussion than words in statements
[13:30] <Pauluntu> dc5ala, thanks i'll remember that the next time my folder icons misteriously disappear
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> reisio: yes but saying he SHOULD use 64bit just because the cpu is 64bit is the same mentality as always using 32bit
[13:31] <aot2002> I'm looking into encrypted home directory, the documentation says "When you are not logged into your system ..." that the data is not available. Does a remote login count as a login?
[13:31] <falstaff> sgs2_usr, I think there are ways to configure the window so it works "normally", but learning a new config language seems a little too much like work for me.
[13:31] <reisio> ActionParsnip: it might be, if his processor were only 32-bit
[13:31] <lawnchair> why does the ubuntu background go white sometimes?
[13:31] <reisio> ActionParsnip: which would void the entire discussion
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> reisio: I give up, if you cannot grasp simple language I'm wasting my time
[13:31] <reisio> aot2002: I'm pretty sure you can encrypt it regardless if you have the pass, it's just more involved
[13:31] <reisio> ActionParsnip: 'bout time
[13:31] <reisio> aot2002: can decrypt it, even
[13:32] <SunTsu> reisio: the cpu can run as both, both has advantages over the other, depending on the situation. So you might use what's best in a given use case instead of always going a certain way
[13:32] <dc5ala> Pauluntu, though folder icons sounds more like nautilus
[13:32] <reisio> SunTsu: yes for example sometimes people wearing shoes have the advantage when they decide to walk over hot coals for no particular reason
[13:32] <Pauluntu> dc5ala, yeah thats what i thought must just be a bug
[13:33] <rherault> typicaly icon and menu overllaping
[13:33] <rherault> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/215/bugjx.png/
[13:33] <SunTsu> reisio: I agree with ActionParsnip, you don't want to understand, good luck with that mindset
[13:33] <sgs2_usr> i notice  in Compiz there is an option to enable D-Bus, can anyone tell me what does that do?
[13:33] <reisio> SunTsu: understanding isn't a factor :P
[13:33] <jatt> if 32bit OS running over 64bit processor were that crazy it would be completely unsupported.
[13:34] <ubuntu_> lol
[13:34] <aot2002> reisio, Here's what im doing. I'm building a backup server so that one server sync's to another using rsync nightly but I wanna encrypt what gets backed up so if the backup server get's stolen at it's location it's protected and no one can view my files that got backed up. Is this possible?
[13:34] <ubuntu_> ao231, yes
[13:34] <ubuntu_> Why isn't Webmin supported anymore?
[13:34] <reisio> aot2002: you can backup the encrypted home directory, yes
[13:35] <aot2002> reisio, is there any caveats I need to be aware of?
[13:35] <[4-tea-2]> Are there any differences I should be aware of between Debian and Ubuntu when building a kernel (using kernel-package, ie. make-kpkg)?
[13:35] <cutiyar> waiting network configuration can be solved?
[13:35] <reisio> aot2002: to keep it encrypted you either have to back up the entire encrypted area at once (still encrypted), or transfer encrypted to encrypted, or re-encrypt (archive)
[13:36] <reisio> [4-tea-2]: you're coming from which one?
[13:36] <[4-tea-2]> reisio: debian
[13:36] <SunTsu> reisio: it is. in a normal end user desktop case there's no performance difference in 32bit or 64bit because a) cpu is idle most of the time, b) games mostly rely on gpu. What's important is ram. Having >4GB RAM it's clear you need 64Bit to adress it. Under 4GB yu don't need to and you might be better off using 32Bit because 64Bit has the downside of increasing memory usage. Therefore decreasing your performance, because you have less ram to work with
[13:37] <reisio> [4-tea-2]: I'm sure you can get away with the Debian way
[13:37] <[4-tea-2]> reisio: ty
[13:37] <reisio> [4-tea-2]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (note nav item 8)
[13:37] <rherault> icon bar or tab bar are overlapping with global menu bar, any idea?
[13:37] <reisio> SunTsu: but there is a performance difference, don't be silly
[13:38] <SunTsu> reisio: with a cpu idling most of the time?
[13:38] <[4-tea-2]> reisio: thanks again
[13:38] <bytenik__> Hi all; I'm having an issue with network manager where it keeps dropping a connection I have open. I was hoping someone might look at a snip from my syslog and help me understand what I'm looking at.
[13:38] <bytenik__> http://askubuntu.com/questions/66470/persistant-3g-connection-w-network-manager-fails
[13:38] <Pauluntu> ok it happened again my icons disappeared when i open file folders how do i get them back, this is making me reboot more than a win95 system kinda pathetic esspecially since this is linux afterall
[13:38] <reisio> SunTsu: with a system designed to better exploit your non-ancient processor
[13:38] <sidewalk> does anyone know how to increase the number of workspaces in "Gnome Classic" in Ubuntu 11.10?
[13:38] <m`> how can I get ubuntu 2d with "aero snap"? I don't want the rest of the compiz stuff
[13:38] <reisio> [4-tea-2]: np Debian guy
[13:38] <SunTsu> reisio: on the other hand decreasing available ram is what you notice constantly
[13:38] <falstaff> SunTsu, Very cool explanation!!
[13:39] <TimLoal>                                                                                I'm doing a  "sudo smartctl -t long /dev/sd" but i don't see much disk activity is that normal/expected?
[13:39] <reisio> what I notice constantly is people randomly suggesting i386 is a sane choice for processors made twenty-six years after the fact
[13:41] <dc5ala> Pauluntu, do you have any custom nautilus extensions installed?
[13:41] <MrSassyPants> how do I switch around what mouse buttons do what?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> reisio: its i686 actually
[13:41] <dc5ala> Pauluntu, try starting nautilus again when it crashed
[13:41] <jatt> i386 is more an architecture than a particular microprocessor
[13:41] <enchilado> MrSassyPants: "Mouse and Touchpad"?
[13:42] <MrSassyPants> enchilado, nope
[13:42] <Duelisti> Using 10.04 netbook edition, when I try to turn the visual effects to normal or extra, it doesn't change anything and once I close appearance settings and look at them again, it's set to "none" again. Visual Effects do work with different versions, so that can't be it. Any help?
[13:42] <reisio> ActionParsnip: sixteen is _soooo_ much better than twenty-six
[13:42] <enchilado> MrSassyPants: what are you trying to make the buttons do?
[13:42] <reisio> it's _almost_ as sane as twelve
[13:42] <m`> aerosnapping in unity 2d?
[13:42] <Pauluntu> dc5ala, it happens whenever i open the i guess you would call it start menu lol and search for a program, then from that point on no icons in folders
[13:42] <reisio> except for the four years
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> reisio: 4 years is a long time in computing
[13:43] <MrSassyPants> enchilado, I'm trying to make button8 act as the 'middle mouse button' - its a logi g5 and the thumb button is way more handy for that kinda thing than the mousewheel button
[13:43] <dc5ala> Pauluntu, dash home you mean?
[13:43] <Pauluntu> dc5ala, yes
[13:43] <reisio> ActionParsnip: now you're arguing my side :p
[13:43] <tmade_> hello, i´ve made a distribtion update from 10.10. to 11.4 via "apt-get dist-upgrade". It didn´t finish and stopped with errors. So I restarted the system. Now my root-fs is mounted as read-only. I already started it in rescue mode and run fsck/ e2fsck/tunefs etc. and the check finished without errors. So what todo?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> reisio: I argue what is right, I don't have sides
[13:44] <enchilado> MrSassyPants: ah, right. I'm not used to mice with more than three buttons...
[13:44] <dc5ala> Pauluntu, can you paste your .xsession-errors to http://paste.ubuntu.com?
[13:44] <kelvinella> 11.10 crashes a lot
[13:44] <bytenik> No one with network manager experience? is there a different room for that?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> MrSassyPants: search dash for mouse, is there not a hand switch there
[13:44] <kelvinella> the unity doesnt work anymore in 11.10
[13:44] <ironhalik> what can I do when dash/alttab hides behind other windows? :>
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: no issues here in KDE
[13:44] <reisio> ActionParsnip: the point being that you've now argued both sides as right :p
[13:44] <kelvinella> kde?
[13:44] <Duelisti> Using 10.04 netbook edition, when I try to turn the visual effects to normal or extra, it doesn't change anything and once I close appearance settings and look at them again, it's set to "none" again. Visual Effects do work with different versions, so that can't be it. Any help?
[13:44] <MrSassyPants> ActionParsnip, it's not 'left-right-handedness' that I want to switch, it's slightly more complicated
[13:44] <reisio> you understand I hope the complexity of that :P
[13:45] <MrSassyPants> I'm pretty sure it's possible to do with xmodmap
[13:45] <Polah> lelost1
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> MrSassyPants: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/06/from-windows-to-ubuntu-setup-your-mouse-for-left-handed-users/
[13:45] <MrSassyPants> ActionParsnip, its. not. that.
[13:45] <reisio> kelvinella: kde?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> MrSassyPants: I see
[13:45] <dc5ala> ironhalik, no idea but have that too and heard of another user with same problem, i know it does not help you :P
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: its a desktop, like gnome
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> !kde | kelvinella
[13:46] <TimLoal>                                                                                I'm doing a  "sudo smartctl -t long /dev/sda" but i don't see much disk activity is that normal/expected?
[13:46] <ironhalik> dc5ala: well, in some way it does - when enough users have the same problem, someone will fix it :>
[13:46] <Pauluntu> dc5ala, http://paste.ubuntu.com/710944/
[13:46] <kelvinella> are you suggesting me to use KDE instead of gnome?
[13:46] <reisio> ah
[13:46] <reisio> it does seem like ActionParsnip was suggesting that
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: no, I just don't have any crashes as I don't use gnome desktop
[13:47] <TimLoal> ActionParsnip    I'm doing a  "sudo smartctl -t long /dev/sda" but i don't see much disk activity is that normal/expected?
[13:47] <jatt> there is nothing wrong in suggesting alternatives like kde or xfce4
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> TimLoal: never used that, sorry
[13:47] <Neil__> ActionParsnip_:  OK, sorted.  I just set the permissions.  Thanks for your advice.
[13:47] <reisio> jatt: or twm
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Neil__: np man
[13:48] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, i just upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 then problems
[13:48] <kelvinella> it is dell mini9 netbook
[13:48] <Layke> I upgraded to 11.10, how do I get rid of Unity? I want to have classic desktop.
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: is it ok as another user
[13:48] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, whenever i open a software like firefox that will maximized at the beginning, i will have problem
[13:49] <reisio> Layke: install gnome-shell, gnome-tweak-tool, gnome-panel
[13:49] <Layke> Usually you would select on the login screen, but it isn't there. It just says  Ubuntu 2D.
[13:49] <kelvinella> i need to unmaximize it and re-maximize it to use the unity bar or menu bar again
[13:49] <Layke> Thanks reisio
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: does it happen as another user?
[13:49] <jatt> Layke: the classic desktop provided by gnome 3 is in no way a replacement for gnome 2, you might well try alternatives such as xfce4 or kde.
[13:50] <OerHeks> !nounity
[13:50] <kelvinella> what another user?
[13:50] <jbkc85> hi guys, I recently upgraded to 11.10 and downloaded Compiz settings manager; after looking at the settings my computer crashed.  I now only have 'File Edit View Go Bookmarks Help' in the upper left hand corner of my screen
[13:50] <TimLoal> ActionParsnip: ok      no one else seems to be seeing the question :(
[13:50] <reisio> jatt: except for it being made by GNOME and intended exactly as a replacement for GNOME 2...
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: another user to log in as
[13:50] <TimLoal>                                                                                I'm doing a  "sudo smartctl -t long /dev/sda" but i don't see much disk activity is that normal/expected?
[13:50] <jbkc85> absolutely no shutdown icons, no smart search...nothing
[13:50] <falstaff> jatt, I was unhappy with the Gnew Gnome and I went to Xfce -- It took a it to learn it, but it, but I like it much better than Unity.
[13:50] <OerHeks> jbkc85, try ' unity --reset ´
[13:51] <jatt> falstaff: indeed, that is a good decision. yes, it takes a little bit to configure to please your taste but once this is done xfce4 is great.
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: make a new one then to test.
[13:51] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, whys that?
[13:51] <jbkc85> OerHeks: Ran the command...
[13:51] <jbkc85> compiz (core) - Warn: unhandled ConfigureNotify on 0x3c0013a!
[13:51] <jbkc85> compiz (core) - Warn: this should never happen. you shouldprobably file a bug about this.
[13:52] <jbkc85> I guess that explains some of it ><
[13:52] <dc5ala> Pauluntu, can you do the same vor /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[13:52] <jbkc85> it is only happening for my one user.  Is there a way to blank out all the config changes I made (or in this case I didn't make)?
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: it will test if your settings are causing issues. The new user will get a vanilla profile so if it is good there then your settings are making things bad. If it is the same then the application itself is at fault
[13:53] <falstaff> jatt, It wouldn't surprise if this Unity thing doesn't fly ... and other GUIs become more popular.
[13:53] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, i am trying the guest session now, i report back
[13:53] <sileni> Hello everyone
[13:53] <reisio> hi sileni
[13:53] <TimLoal>                                                                                I'm doing a  "sudo smartctl -t long /dev/sda" but i don't see much disk activity is that normal/expected?
[13:53] <sileni> nowadays how much space does / partition take for ubuntu 11.10?
[13:53] <falstaff> Hello sileni
[13:53] <reisio> sileni: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[13:53] <jatt> falstaff: that's a possibility yes. I use ubuntu at my day job, so unity didn't fly for me, however it might be please other kind of users.
[13:53] <Pauluntu> dc5ala, http://paste.ubuntu.com/710951/
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> sileni: I have a full KDE desktop with all the media codecs and libreoffice and it is at 3.2Gb
[13:54] <MrSassyPants> "xinput set-button-map" is supposed to work, but doesnt, anyone know why?
[13:55] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, same problem in guest
[13:55] <sileni> ActionParsnip: Thank you so 50 GB should be more than enough
[13:55] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, whenever a window is maximized, can not bring on the unity side bar
[13:56] <reisio> sileni: yes
[13:56] <falstaff> jatt, I have read reviews ... everyone seems to say that it is good once you get used to it.  Well the "getting used to it thing" was what got me off of MS Windows ... Ribbon indeed.
[13:56] <dc5ala> Pauluntu, i am sorry, couldn't find any hint :(
[13:56] <sileni> kelvinella: i have firefox maximized and i can still bring the sidebar?
[13:56] <oYeVoVeYo> Help plz
[13:56] <oYeVoVeYo> H-2.0-OpenSSH_5.3p1 Debian-3ubuntu7
[13:56] <oYeVoVeYo> Protocol mismatch.
[13:57] <MrSassyPants> alternatively, how do I set xorg.conf's Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5 7 8"
[13:57] <MrSassyPants> without there being an xorg.conf ?
[13:57] <mollitz> after my upgrade to 11.10 my x-server fails and restarts directly after typing password and pressing enter at the login-windows. Someone knows where to search for the error?
[13:57] <oYeVoVeYo> It happened when I was trying to connect to youtube withing ssh
[13:57] <jatt> falstaff: lol true. imho unity interferes with the user too much. a good desktop environment should stay away as much of possible from a user and his applications.
[13:57] <SunTsu> oYeVoVeYo: er, you did what?
[13:57] <oYeVoVeYo> Ummmmmmm o.o did I do something wrong?
[13:58] <jcastro> Join us on #ubuntu-classroom for OpenWeek, starting now! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[13:58] <oYeVoVeYo> I tried to connect to youtube through the ssh tunnel
[13:58] <oYeVoVeYo> o.o
[13:58] <jiltdil> Any one help me to fix cheese, the pic quality is very low
[13:58] <TimLoal>                                                                                Dose anyone know where i can find the channel logs for today?
[13:58] <reisio> MrSassyPants: you can add a xorg.conf if you like
[13:58] <SunTsu> oYeVoVeYo: OK, it read like you were trying to ssh to youtube
[13:58] <cmcanulty> how do I connect to the ubuntu classroom open week? I can never find it
[13:58] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, very weird http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/294527_10150323298831372_556441371_8520893_1925819243_n.jpg
[13:58] <xangua> !logs | TimLoal
[13:59] <xangua> cmcanulty:  (08:58:20) jcastro: Join us on #ubuntu-classroom for OpenWeek, starting now! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[13:59] <TimLoal> xangua: thanks
[13:59] <oYeVoVeYo> SunTsu, yes, and "H-2.0-OpenSSH_5.3p1 Debian-3ubuntu7
[13:59] <oYeVoVeYo> Protocol mismatch.
[13:59] <oYeVoVeYo> " <--- this, appeared, any ideas?
[13:59] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, i can install adobe-flashplugin, but it said not found
[13:59] <dc5ala> Pauluntu, only guess i have is that it could be compiz setting related and could try to reset those
[13:59] <stephni> how can i get a download manager?
[13:59] <jiltdil> The pic taken by cheese is little redish and greenish please help to fix this, in 11.04 it was working fine
[13:59] <xangua> kelvinella: did you already enabled partner and updated repository¿
[13:59] <Pauluntu> dc5ala, thanks anyways :P i'll probally switch to openSuse to me personally i find it easier to work with than even ubuntu nowadays
[13:59] <jbkc85> ok, so I got the unity to start showing up again by running terminals to start the process.  They aren't starting up by default and I have no idea why
[13:59] <[4-tea-2]> Why does "apt-get install libsdl1.2debian:i386" tell me that it's going to deinstall the 64bit version on a multiarch system? Did I misunderstand how this is supposed to work? (I need SDL support for a 32bit application.)
[14:00] <xangua> stephni: tried to search 'download manager' on software center¿
[14:00] <SunTsu> oYeVoVeYo: yes, I'm forming one, but I'm not jumping conclusions now
[14:00] <templet> how many themes are in oneiric final ?  more than 4 ?
[14:00] <SunTsu> oYeVoVeYo: do you have a ssh account at youtube?
[14:00] <kelvinella> xangua, no idea how to enable partner
[14:00] <cutiyar> waiting network configuration can be solved?
[14:00] <cmcanulty> ubuntu classroom isn't on the channels list of xchat
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-downloader
[14:00] <xangua> !partner | kelvinella again
[14:00] <oYeVoVeYo> SunTsu, Um, nope O.o
[14:01] <cmcanulty> ubuntu classroom isn't on the xchat list
[14:01] <jiltdil> !cheese
[14:01] <SunTsu> oYeVoVeYo: then, where do you try to connect with ssh?
[14:01] <jiltdil> !Cheese
[14:01] <jiltdil> !cam
[14:01] <oYeVoVeYo> Well I have a ssh account, just not at youtube o.o
[14:02] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, i already get the flash problem fix, now it is the maximizing problem
[14:02] <cmcanulty> ubuntu classroom isn't on the xchat list
[14:02] <xangua> cmcanulty: /join #ubuntu-classroom
[14:02] <SunTsu> oYeVoVeYo: maybe you could try to write more precise, so that I don't have to wrestle every information from you
[14:02] <reisio> cmcanulty: ffr: /msg alis list *ubun*class*
[14:03] <falstaff> templet, I thing that idea behind Unity is to enable the user to create his own themes ... but I am not sure.
[14:03] <wartrend> is there a way to get back to the old look of ubuntu?
[14:03] <ppcblaster> Oneiric/11.10 is out!
[14:03] <costin> hi ppl
[14:03] <reisio> wartrend: which old look?
[14:03] <oYeVoVeYo> SunTsu, Um, okay, I have a ssh account at cjb.net
[14:03] <reisio> costin: hi
[14:03] <wartrend> I don't like this new look. slows my pc down
[14:03] <reisio> wartrend: which new look?
[14:03] <xangua> !gnome2 | wartrend
[14:03] <[4-tea-2]> !multiarch
[14:03] <wartrend> not sure what it's called
[14:03] <carli2> hi.
[14:03] <costin> is nice ubutnu 11.10
[14:03] <reisio> wartrend: what version?
[14:04] <oYeVoVeYo> SunTsu, and it can connect to some webistes like google
[14:04] <jrkotrla> help; I attempted to install LyX while on battery power and went into hibernation before the process completed. LyX is functional, but when trying to install Compiz Config I get the error: pastebin.com/p2DZ7xkr
[14:04] <wartrend> i like the old look without the side bar crap
[14:04] <oYeVoVeYo> SunTsu, but not youtube, I see this  -------> "H-2.0-OpenSSH_5.3p1 Debian-3ubuntu7
[14:04] <oYeVoVeYo> Protocol mismatch.
[14:04] <oYeVoVeYo> " when I was trying to go to youtube through the ssh tunnel
[14:04] <[4-tea-2]> Ah, I feel better now that I know that ubottu knows about as much about multiarch as I do.
[14:04] <oYeVoVeYo> And I have the ssh tunnel running
[14:04] <sileni> wartrend: you can still get that look up something called gnome failover on ubuntu 11.10 on google
[14:04] <wartrend> 9.04 look
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> wartrend: use xfce, looks similar to gnome2
[14:04] <reisio> wartrend: you can use 10.04, but after 2013 you'll be forced to update to stay secure
[14:04] <MrSassyPants> ok, I figured out the xinput line
[14:05] <carli2> the network manager does not work with NAT, when I open a shared internet connection, i opened a bug a month ago, but nothing happend. the bug isnt fixed neither in ppa nor in official releases of oneiric.
[14:05] <MrSassyPants> but how do I make it 'stick' ?
[14:05] <SunTsu> oYeVoVeYo: could you please read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and try again afterwards?
[14:05] <wartrend> omg
[14:05] <MrSassyPants> which one is the file that gets executed each time an user enters X
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> MrSassyPants: add it as a startup item for when you login
[14:05] <sgronblo> My ubuntu upgrade has frozen at downloading the dropbox client.
[14:05] <kaolc2> I just got 11.10, hated it, tried xfce and I'm loving it.
[14:05] <wartrend> can we get the old look back like in 11.04
[14:05] <MrSassyPants> ActionParsnip, how?
[14:05] <oYeVoVeYo> SunTsu, alright, thanks for the link
[14:05] <jrib> !classic | wartrend
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> MrSassyPants: does the command need sudo?
[14:05] <MrSassyPants> no
[14:05] <sgronblo> Any idea how I can kill the attempt to download it so I can get the upgrade to continue?
[14:05] <reisio> MrSassyPants: /etc/xdg/autostart
[14:05] <jbkc85> anyone know how to completely reset what unity launches?  Apparently all my unity utilities aren't launching on startup anymore
[14:05] <MrSassyPants> it just needs X loaded with the appropriate user
[14:05] <wartrend> k let me try
[14:05] <jrib> !nounity | wartrend
[14:06] <wartrend> why do they do this
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> MrSassyPants: then search in dash for startup   and you'll find the startup manager, you can add the command there
[14:06] <sgronblo> It doesn't respond to ctrl-c
[14:06] <wartrend> does anyone like it?
[14:06] <jpds> wartrend: Because GNOME dumped the old look too?
[14:06] <reisio> wartrend: they like Mac OS :p
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> wartrend: many
[14:06] <reisio> wartrend: people who like Mac OS, for starters
[14:06] <wartrend> oh i see
[14:06] <sileni> wartrend: i love this new unity on 11.10 personally
[14:06] <kaolc2> Question: I just got xfce. The clock on my sidebar doesn't fit so it's only showing the first two digits. There is apparently no option to rotate it so it would all fit in the sidebar. Does anyone know how to do this?
[14:06] <wartrend> really
[14:06] <falstaff> wartrend, I too didn't like the Unity/Gnome look and feel ... I went to xfce and am very impressed.  it isn't perfect but it is very good!
[14:06] <reisio> sileni: and what do you use your OS for?
[14:06] <wartrend> what is this xfce?
[14:07] <sileni> reisio: ssh into servers and 3270 lol
[14:07] <reisio> wartrend: it's another DE, like GNOME (2) but lighter
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> wartrend: its a desktop environment like gnome
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> snips
[14:07] <wartrend> so where can i get it?
[14:07] <reisio> sileni: so you don't actually _use_ your DE :p you just stare at it :p
[14:07] <sileni> reisio: true
[14:07] <wartrend> do i have to reinstall ubuntu?
[14:07] <[4-tea-2]> (2nd & last attempt) Why does "apt-get install libsdl1.2debian:i386" tell me that it's going to deinstall the 64bit version on a multiarch system? Did I misunderstand how this is supposed to work? (I need SDL support for a 32bit application.)
[14:07] <reisio> wartrend: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[14:07] <reisio> wartrend: no
[14:07] <frank__> Just upgraded to 11.01, but I can't figure out how to adjust how fonts appear in the system. It used to be under "Apperance" settings, but it's not there anymore. Any dieas?
[14:07] <wartrend> k
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> wartrend: sudo apt-get install xfce4     log off and select xfce as your session
[14:07] <wartrend> i will figure it out
[14:07] <wartrend> thank you so much
[14:07] <sileni> reisio: my terminal looks bigger without the ugly bottom bar
[14:07] <wartrend> very friendly
[14:08] <reisio> you can make Xfce work incredibly similarly to GNOME 2
[14:08] <wartrend> k
[14:08] <reisio> sileni: that's what she said
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> wartrend: we try :), you are patient and courteous, so you deserve it :)
[14:08] <wartrend> gnome 2 was so good
[14:08] <reisio> http://xfce.org/about/screenshots
[14:08] <Codeize> :)
[14:08] <tramm> Hi! Can anybody tell me where I can find the list of all files on ubuntu ISO without downloading the ISO itself... And i'd like to find out also the files in SquashFS.
[14:08] <reisio> whatever it was, it's always weird when upstream decides to abruptly change goals
[14:08] <falstaff> wartrend, if you google it -- the webpage gives all kindd of good explanations.
[14:09] <reisio> tramm: what for?
[14:09] <frank__> Anyone know how to change font settings in 11.01? It used to be under "Appearance" but I don't see it there anymore.
[14:09] <sileni> wartrend: if you hate it so much, I'm pretty sure you can uninstall unity and go back to what you like
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> reisio: kde is largely unchanged in a log while :)
[14:09] <wartrend> I will look into it. It seems to lag on my VM
[14:09] <sileni> wartrend: there are alot of good tutorials for that on google
[14:09] <reisio> ActionParsnip: no it isn't
[14:09] <wartrend> k
[14:09] <kaolc2> Question: I just got xfce. The clock on my sidebar doesn't fit so it's only showing the first two digits. There is apparently no option to rotate it so it would all fit in the sidebar. Does anyone know how to do this?
[14:09] <xangua> frank__: install gnome-tweak-tool
[14:09] <reisio> ActionParsnip: they pulled the same thing with 3 to 4
[14:09] <beefman_> got a weird problem: i put xfce on 11.10, and when i first ran xfce, my desktop icons were not arranged as they previously had been in gnome.  later, after i had maximized some things, explored file system a little, when i viewed the desktop again they were the way they were supposed to be
[14:10] <tramm> reisio: I want to see if a certain file is available in 64-bit Oneiric, but I don't want to download it just for that.
[14:10] <frank__> xangua: will do, thanks!
[14:10] <beefman_> now after a couple reboots, they're disorganized again.  and i don't have the minimize/maximize buttons in the corner of my windows
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> reisio: still ran the same here, worked well. Its not as drastic as the unity change
[14:10] <beefman_> any ideas?
[14:10] <reisio> kaolc2: rotate it?  Which clock is it?
[14:10] <_-XPERT-_> xangua: Thnx workes for now the screen saver but hope that gnome will fix bug
[14:10] <reisio> ActionParsnip: I can find you plenty of KDE users who said different
[14:11] <reisio> tramm: what file?
[14:11] <kaolc2> reisio: How do I rotate it? I don't see any option..
[14:11] <reisio> kaolc2: first I need to know what clock you're talking about
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> reisio: I can only call it as I see it, can't I
[14:11] <reisio> ActionParsnip: so it seems
[14:11] <kaolc2> reisio: I'm talking about the default system clock in my side bar that was there when I changed to xfce
[14:12] <reisio> kaolc2: screenshot?
[14:12] <reisio> is it graphical or textual?
[14:12] <kaolc2> I can choose either.. Right now it's digital
[14:12] <reisio> kaolc2: you can make the bar wider
[14:12] <reisio> kaolc2: or even move the panel to the bottom or top or both, as in GNOME 2
[14:12] <kaolc2> reisio: No, I would lose precious space, my screen is very small ;)
[14:12] <reisio> kaolc2: heh
[14:12] <jatt> kaolc2: there is an Orage Panel Clock in xfce4 which has more features (like a calendar) as the default xfce4 clock.
[14:13] <tramm> reisio: /usr/lib and /usr/lib64... The question is how are the 64-bit libraries symlinked. My application doesn't find the links where they were in Natty, i. e. /usr/lib64/onepin-opensc.so or something similar.
[14:13] <notjoe> Is there a way to configure unity to not be delayed for a few seconds when i move my mouse over the left of the screen?
[14:13] <kaolc2> jatt: I'll check it out.
[14:13] <cutiyar> waiting network configuration on booting how can be fix?? i used some tutorial doesnt work
[14:13] <reisio> kaolc2: so you want the chars rotated or smaller text?
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> notjoe: there are timeouts definable in ccsm  afaik
[14:13] <kaolc2> reisio: I want it rotated so that it's not horizontal anymore
[14:13] <bhavesh> I get this http://i.imgur.com/bZ3Aj.png when I do "ifconfig" in my netbook where internet does not work.
[14:14] <reisio> kaolc2: that'd probably take a significant patch to the code, IMO
[14:14] <reisio> #xfce would know for sure, though
[14:14] <kaolc2> reisio: Then what do you suggest I do?
[14:14] <reisio> kaolc2: you could set it to auto-hide and keep your real estate
[14:14] <Cradam> hello can anyone suggest a way to remove my sshd and reinstall it?
[14:14] <reisio> kaolc2: you could change to a two-digit representation
[14:14] <reisio> kaolc2: you could use the "analog" appearance
[14:15] <kaolc2> reisio: But I don't want it to auto-hide..
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Cradam: sudo apt-get --purge remove openssh-server; sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[14:15] <kaolc2> reisio: Analog is not exact
[14:15] <notjoe> Ah, I was used to moving it up to the top left of the screen to appear
[14:15] <reisio> kaolc2: it should be possible to make the text smaller easier than anything else, let's see
[14:15] <notjoe> now i need to move it over to anywhere on the left
[14:15] <sileni> Bhavesh, can you please show output of 'lspci'
[14:15] <notjoe> coo
[14:15] <notjoe> thanks gys
[14:15] <hungryhubby> iam getting this mesg [    5.130834] intel_rng: FWH not detected
[14:15] <beefman_> actually i can't pull windows away from the top of the screen either in xfce... any ideas?
[14:15] <reisio> kaolc2: ah yes, here it is
[14:15] <Cradam> ActionParsnip: ahh, i was missing the --purge
[14:15] <reisio> kaolc2: the orage version has a font size pref
[14:15] <hungryhubby> how do i clear dmesg
[14:15] <tito_> help me someone please....I am unable to install java7 plugin in firefox
[14:15] <bhavesh> sileni, Ok, with my network cable in?
[14:16] <kaolc2> reisio: I googled a bit but couldn't find anything about an orange version. How do I get it?
[14:16] <reisio> kaolc2: right click on the panel, add orage clock, move it to where the other one is, then right click and remove the other, then right click on orage clock and configure it
[14:16] <sileni> bhavesh: are you trying to connect with ethernet or wireless?
[14:16] <stephni> which app is the best download manager for ubuntu?
[14:16] <bhavesh> sileni, plugged in?
[14:16] <kaolc2> reisio: thanks, will try now
[14:16] <bhavesh> sileni, with earthnet
[14:16] <reisio> kaolc2: it's one of the preinstalled panel items
[14:16] <sileni> bhavesh: then with it plugged in
[14:16] <bhavesh> sileni, ethernet
[14:16] <bhavesh> sileni, ok brb
[14:16] <AlexDevilLX> Is there gnome classic in Ubuntu 12.04?
[14:16] <SDN> can someone assist me with mounting the motorola xoom i followed this guide here http://www.xoomforums.com/forum/motorola-xoom-development/691-mount-internal-storage-ubuntu.html but am still having issues here is my lsusb output http://notepub.com/#note=268728
[14:16] <kaolc2> reisio: Oh, it's "orage", not "orange".. I thought you made a typo
[14:17] <sileni> bhavesh: it doesn't really matter, you can just copy paste the output in pastebin instead of taking pictures and uploading to imgurl
[14:17] <reisio> AlexDevilLX: I can't imagine under any circumstances there would be
[14:17] <reisio> kaolc2: yeah, dunno where the name comes from
[14:17] <xangua> !nounity | AlexDevilLX
[14:17] <falstaff> stephni, I am a big fan of apt-get ... but that could be just me.
[14:17] <AlexDevilLX> reisio, so there is no gnome classic in ubuntu 12.04
[14:18] <tito_> anyone mind helping me with the firefox java plugin?
[14:18] <Pici> AlexDevilLX: 12.04 development has barely started, it is the same as 11.10 right now.
[14:18] <Cradam> ActionParsnip: i could kiss you
[14:18] <reisio> AlexDevilLX: Canonical would basically have to volunteer to maintain the GNOME 2 codebase for that to happen
[14:18] <AlexDevilLX> Pici: i s there gnome classic in 11.10
[14:18] <mrneeon> When I open a folder, when in an active window (Say firefox) the notification_tray tells me that "Some folder" is ready... Is there a way to automatic bring this to the front..? This is bugging the h* out of me
[14:18] <sileni> ActionParsnip: quiet the ladies man you are
[14:18] <reisio> AlexDevilLX: however by that time someone else may have volunteered to do that
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> Cradam: ?
[14:18] <reisio> AlexDevilLX: and (more likely) there will be lots of how tos for making GNOME 3 work like GNOME 2
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> sileni: don't tell my girlfriend hahahah
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Cradam: yeah --purge removes all the residual config so that when you reinstall you get new stuffs
[14:19] <kaolc2> reisio: If it all has to fit there, it's too small to read.. But I'll just make the bar a tiny bit bigger then, this is a ridiculous problem anyway :) thanks for the help
[14:19] <Pici> AlexDevilLX: As ubottu just said, no.
[14:19] <AlexDevilLX> Ok, simply is there any way to lauch gnome classic in 11.10
[14:19] <AlexDevilLX> Coz i cant use gnome 3
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> !nounity | AlexDevilLX
[14:20] <jatt> AlexDevilLX: gnome 2 is pretty much unsupported now
[14:20] <alvin47> please help me about the netbook-launcher-efl ...
[14:20] <bearly230> In 11.10 gnome shell is there a way to put a link on the top bar for a bash file I run regularly?
[14:20] <reisio> kaolc2: no no
[14:20] <TimLoal>                                                                                I'm doing a  "sudo smartctl -t long /dev/sda" but i don't see much/any disk activity is that normal/expected?
[14:20] <bhavesh_> sileni, http://i.imgur.com/EVWwW.png
[14:20] <AlexDevilLX> jatt: ok, kde?
[14:20] <reisio> kaolc2: in orage clock prefs you can change it to only display hour and minute like the other clock
[14:20] <jatt> AlexDevilLX: all gnome's team development resources were focused on gnome 3
[14:20] <tito_> firefox plugin is not getting installed...please help!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:20] <alvin47> netbook-launcher-efl is always disappearing by itself!
[14:20] <nemo> bearly230: you can add it as a launcher to your dock
[14:20] <nemo> bearly230: but it is a pain in the ass to do
[14:20] <jatt> AlexDevilLX: kde or xfce4
[14:20] <kaolc2> reisio: I already did that. Too small still
[14:20] <reisio> kaolc2: where it says Line 1:, set %I:%M
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> !mate
[14:21] <AlexDevilLX> i tried xfce, its bad
[14:21] <reisio> kaolc2: then use a font better suited to small sizes, like 'terminal'
[14:21] <nemo> bearly230: they haven't made it easy to create launchers anymore. no more context menu in nautilus.  anyway, once you make the .desktop you can copy it to ~/.local/share/applications,  search for it in your apps, then add it to your dock
[14:21] <AlexDevilLX> can i test drive kde online?
[14:21] <jatt> AlexDevilLX: no it isn't at least on my system. it depends on your taste and what you use your machine for.
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> AlexDevilLX: could try LXDE too :)
[14:21] <xangua> AlexDevilLX: you can dowload kubuntu and test it on a virtual machine
[14:21] <AlexDevilLX> VM>
[14:21] <reisio> AlexDevilLX: eh, you'll miss the effects
[14:22] <mrneeon> anyone?
[14:22] <reisio> AlexDevilLX: try the Kubuntu live CD if you really want a taste
[14:22] <bearly230> nemo: my biggest issue is I have to manually disable my touchpad and trying to get to the file with the keyboard, and the touchpad active is a pain in the you know what.
[14:22] <AlexDevilLX> I miss gnome classic
[14:22] <tito_> ActionParsnip: do you know how to install the java plugin in firefox?
[14:22] <reisio> AlexDevilLX: or just install KDE in your current install, you can always uninstall it later
[14:22] <AlexDevilLX> LXDE vs KDE vs XFCE where are less bugs?
[14:22] <reisio> AlexDevilLX: well not KDE
[14:22] <AlexDevilLX> easier to use after gnome?
[14:22] <alvin47> ActionParsnip: boss please help me regarding the netbook-launcher-efl please please please
[14:22] <reisio> AlexDevilLX: Xfce
[14:23] <AlexDevilLX> I have tried XFCE there are no shortcuts
[14:23] <kaolc2> reisio: Any way to show "4" instead of "16"? That would get me one digit down
[14:23] <mrneeon> When I open a folder, when in an active window (Say firefox) the notification_tray tells me that "Some folder" is ready... Is there a way to automatic bring this to the front..? This is bugging the h* out of me
[14:23] <reisio> AlexDevilLX: of course there are
[14:23] <bhavesh_> sileni, any clue?
[14:23] <xangua> AlexDevilLX: there are
[14:23] <jatt> AlexDevilLX: xfce4 is pretty robust
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> alvin47: what's the issue, maybe the channel can advise
[14:23] <reisio> kaolc2: for the hour?
[14:23] <kaolc2> reisio: Yes
[14:23] <reisio> kaolc2: %l
[14:23] <falstaff> AlexDevilLX, I would guess that all the mentions GUIs are pretty stable.
[14:23] <sileni> bhavesh_: yes
[14:23] <kaolc2> reisio: Actually, I could do two clocks, one showing the minute and one the hour
[14:24] <bhavesh_> ?
[14:24] <reisio> kaolc2: hahahahah
[14:24] <reisio> kaolc2: you are tenacious
[14:24] <kaolc2> reisio: I know, it's a ridiculous problem :)
[14:24] <sileni> bhavesh_: google shows that driver is not loaded nateively
[14:24] <reisio> it'd look cute, anyways
[14:24] <sileni> bhavesh_: http://tuxthink.blogspot.com/2010/08/enabling-atheros-ethernet-controller-on.html
[14:24] <sileni> bhavesh_: and for the driver file one sec
[14:24] <AlexDevilLX> OK, who hates gnome 3, what wm do use use now?
[14:24] <sileni> bhavesh_: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/images/AR81Family-linux-v<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz
[14:24] <nemo> bearly230: I use XFCE4.8 myself
[14:24] <alvin47> ActionParsnip: netbook-launcher-efl always disappears by itself.. it shows as I login but later after few seconds it will poof disappear, but it is running as  i look in the system monitor
[14:24] <sileni> bhavesh_: if you follow those directions, it should get you going
[14:24] <nemo> bearly230: it is very similar to gnome2 these days, only a lot faster
[14:25] <bearly230> nemo: thanks
[14:25] <nemo> I'm thinking I should have switched earlier
[14:25] <bhavesh_> sileni, ok thank you, ill try it and let u know.
[14:25] <reisio> kaolc2: did you look at the 'Binary' layout for the original clock? :p
[14:25] <AlexDevilLX> Ok, is KDE stable
[14:25] <nemo> bearly230: BTW, if you're trying to figure out how to move the panels in XFCE4 you have to uncheck the checkbox that locks 'em in place when editing :D
[14:25] <kaolc2> reisio: Takes me too long to look at the clock then, but I was considering it ^^
[14:25] <nemo> bearly230: then you can just move 'em up/down/left/right whatever
[14:25] <reisio> AlexDevilLX: "stable", sure
[14:25] <sileni> bhavesh_: ok
[14:25] <shell> i have mistakenly disabled the notification of network connection in gnome shell.How to reenable it
[14:25] <reisio> kaolc2: heh
[14:25] <shell> ?
[14:25] <bearly230> nemo: thanks
[14:25] <reisio> kaolc2: there used to be a "Beats" option :p
[14:26] <kaolc2> reisio: How does that work?
[14:26] <AlexDevilLX> the only thing i like in KDE is AmaroK
[14:26] <xangua> shell: tried reset unity''¿ :  unity --reset
[14:26] <AlexDevilLX> WTH is this?
[14:26] <AlexDevilLX> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Konqi-klogo-official-400x500_b.png/220px-Konqi-klogo-official-400x500_b.png
[14:26] <reisio> kaolc2: was a nonsense ad scheme by swatch, IIRC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatch_Internet_Time
[14:27] <psalden> hey. Im connected wirelessly to my university network and although network manager suggests its succesful, internet gets cut off continuously. any ideas?
[14:27] <conntrack> getting there
[14:27] <xangua> AlexDevilLX: kde pet
[14:27] <alvin47> Actionparsnip: any idea?
but the problem is not in unity...gnome shell notification
[14:27] <AlexDevilLX> I wish it was beastie
[14:27] <reisio> a timorous one?
[14:27] <AlexDevilLX> heh
[14:27] <jiltdil> Any one help to fix cheese?
[14:27] <AlexDevilLX> Dolphin supports dropbox?
one that appears at the bottom of the scrren.Clicked the "Do not show again" by mistake
[14:28] <reisio> AlexDevilLX: I'm sure it can
[14:28] <kaolc2> reisio: Okay, two clocks actually works pretty well. Now I just need to find a way to hide all those extra toolbars in the upper part of Firefox
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> AlexDevilLX: thats konki
[14:28] <reisio> AlexDevilLX: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22kde%22%20%22dolphin%22%20%22dropbox%22
[14:28] <myk_robinson> Got a weird issue with 11.10 on my Lenovo laptop. When the screen turns off due to lack of activity, it doesnt wanna come back on... Didnt do this before. My temporary  solution is to disable the screen turning off thing...
[14:28] <AlexDevilLX> ok, why KDE lloks like win 7?
[14:28] <xangua> shell: sorry, not a shell user....or unity :P
[14:28] <AlexDevilLX> So, anyway whats the future KDE vs Gnome?
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> alvin47: no idea, sorry
[14:29] <xangua> !ot | AlexDevilLX
[14:29] <AlexDevilLX> Ok, so anyway guys thanks
[14:29] <khaard> AlexDevilLX: xfce will win
[14:29] <jatt> the future is pretty grim if they don't invest more money/resources to make the software less buggy, hire GUI designers, etc.
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> AlexDevilLX: a lot of OSes look similar, just because it has a bar at the bottom doesn't man it automatically looks like win7
[14:29] <AlexDevilLX> XFCE is hard to use
[14:29] <jatt> it isn't
[14:30] <jatt> is as hard to use as gnome 2.
[14:30] <khaard> AlexDevilLX u must be kidding :)
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> AlexDevilLX: in what way is it hard to use
[14:30] <falstaff> I think Khaard is right Xfce is looking pretty good right now.
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> AlexDevilLX: the menus are in the same places as Gnome2
[14:30] <khaard> xubuntu 11.10 looks gorgeus!
[14:30] <AlexDevilLX> no default shortcuts keystrokes
[14:30] <jatt> yes indeed
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> AlexDevilLX: then define your own....
[14:31] <AlexDevilLX> Takes much tim e ok then thanks
[14:31] <jbkc85> how do i configure unity to automatically start up?  It is turned off on my user for some reason
[14:31] <conntrack> I guess the ipv4 addresses haven't run out yet
[14:32] <jbkc85> I have to actively open terminal to get it to work
that's ok...lol
[14:32] <jbkc85> unity --reset doesn't work either
[14:32] <jatt> jbkc85: sudo apt-get install gdm
[14:32] <oYeVoVeYo> SunTsu, I'm runing a ssh tunnel on ubuntu 10.04 LTS, I've got the add-on (auto-proxy) on firefox, set the default proxy to ssh -D, changed the port to 22 ( the same as the port on the ssh tunnel I'm running), and just now I tried to access 2 websites youtube&twitter, but it says "H-2.0-OpenSSH_5.3p1 Debian-3ubuntu7 Protocol mismatch.", do you have a solution of it?
[14:32] <jason___> Is there a command within the Ubuntu LiveCD I can run? I need to test sound, and my mp3 I have on my flash drive is not working due to no codecs being on the LiveCD :(
[14:32] <richard1234> just upgraded to 11.10 and my window rendering is borked (have to click+drag to make sectiosn of the view render)
[14:32] <richard1234> help!
[14:32] <jbkc85> jatt: at newest version
[14:32] <shell> i have mistakenly disabled the notification of network connection in gnome shell.How to re enable it?
[14:32] <jbkc85> jatt: Uninstall and reinstall maybe?  This appears to be a profile issue; it works fine on other users
[14:32] <khaard> AlexDevilLX each WM, KDE or GNOME or XFCE o LXDE is taking MUCH time to look and behave like it should, or like i want to
[14:33] <fritsch> oYeVoVeYo: ssh -D 7070 youruser@host
[14:33] <xangua> jason___: you can install codecs in live session
[14:33] <fritsch> oYeVoVeYo: after that just set the gnome-proxy-settings to socks: localhost port 7070
[14:33] <richard1234> unity --reset helped eventually , seems to be a graphics issue
[14:33] <xangua> jason___: or just try the example files
[14:33] <qin> shell: hm, bottom right?
[14:33] <jason___> xangua: I think my wireless might be acting up. Im on my work network and I cant install anything.
[14:33] <hexacode> what does "`" do in the terminal? every time i hit it and hit enter its like the terminal turns into some sort of input buffer or something
[14:33] <jason___> xangua: ah, good thought
[14:33] <oYeVoVeYo> fritsch, thanks :))
[14:33] <devinus> i've installed an app using the ubuntu software center
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> jason___: you can install things in the liveCD, they just don't stick.
[14:33] <devinus> unity search isnt pulling it up now
[14:33] <devinus> what can i do?
[14:33] <shell> qin:yeah....i have clicked the "Do not show again"
[14:33] <qin> hexacode: echo `date` is command substitution
[14:34] <SteelGeek> Hi! everyone here!
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> jason___: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras     and you can play what you want
[14:34] <hexacode> thanks qin
[14:34] <mrneeon> When I open a folder, when in an active window (Say firefox) the notification_tray tells me that "Some folder" is ready... Is there a way to automatic bring this to the front..? This is bugging the h* out of me
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> devinus: try pressing ALT+F2 and run:  unity --replace
[14:34] <SunTsu> oYeVoVeYo: You need to use -D<Port> - e.g. -D7070 and use that port as socks proxy in your browser
[14:35] <shell> qin:yeah....i have clicked the "Do not show again" by mistake
[14:35] <oYeVoVeYo> SunTsu, seems like I asked a smart question instead of the stupid one, lol, tyvm
[14:35] <qin> shell: Sorry, not in g-shell now, but recall that you can enable it in bottom right of screen, maybe.
[14:36] <qin> shell: Of user icon
[14:36] <qin> *or
[14:36] <hungryhubby> how do i change permission to open tvtime
[14:36] <bhavesh> sileni, It gives gzip: stdin: decompression OK, trailing garbage ignored
[14:36] <bhavesh> tar: Child returned status 2
[14:36] <bhavesh> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
how???
[14:36] <shell> Can anyone helo :'(
[14:36] <shell> *help
[14:37] <dhruvasagar> is there any way to revert Alt+Tab to old behaviour in 11.10 ?
[14:37] <dhruvasagar> Is this the end of ubuntu ? Do I have to move to another distro because of such shitty user experience decisions !?
[14:37] <gb> found out why my x was stuffed
[14:37] <shell> i have mistakenly disabled the notification of network connection in gnome shell.How to re enable it?
[14:37] <sileni> bhavesh: tar -xvf didn't work ?
[14:37] <xangua> !language | dhruvasagar
[14:37] <gb> my computer crashed during upgrade
[14:38] <fritsch> dhruvasagar: what changed concerning alt tab?
[14:38] <reisio> dhruvasagar: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[14:38] <gb> since finished ther upgrade but cannot login as default user
[14:38] <hexacode> anyone know how to pipe into vim without it closing?
[14:38] <bhavesh> sileni, tar -xzvf gave me that
[14:38] <reisio> dhruvasagar: some of it is Ubuntu, but some of it is GNOME upstream
[14:38] <dhruvasagar> reisio: I already have that, changing any key binding has no effect
[14:38] <pkug> Hi there, how do I set the default CPU freqency governor in 11.10 ? I tried modifying /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils and it seemed to switch to 'performance' on the boot but after some time it turned again to 'ondemand'.. how do i prevent this ?
[14:38] <sileni> bhavesh: once you do the gunzip and get tar file, just do tar -xvf and see if that works
[14:38] <shell> i have mistakenly disabled the notification of network connection in gnome shell.How to re enable it?
[14:38] <Polah> dhruvasagar, this is not the place to complain about something you do not like. If you don't like the default environment, Unity on GNOME then you're perfectly welcome to switch to another.
[14:38] <dhruvasagar> fritsch: Alt+Tab used to be for switching between applications within the current workspace
[14:39] <carli2> the network manager does not work with NAT, when I open a shared internet connection it disconnects after two seconds. I opened a bug a month ago, but nothing happend. the bug isnt fixed neither in ppa nor in official releases of oneiric.
[14:39] <reisio> hexacode: you could use vipe from moreutils
[14:39] <gb> so queston is given i can login as guest what file do i need to remove from default home to let me back in
[14:39] <fritsch> dhruvasagar: ah, now it is all applications?
[14:39] <hexacode> thanks
[14:39] <reisio> hexacode: oh or just
[14:39] <reisio> hexacode: foo | vim -
[14:39] <dhruvasagar> fritsch: Alt+Tab worked like a stack, it remembered which was the last app I was in so if I want to switch between 2 apps I could simply Alt+Tab withotu thinking
[14:39] <bhavesh> sileni, Same error. Child returned stats 2
[14:39] <Polah> carli2: Are you sure the two computers are having different internal IPs assigned?
[14:39] <reisio> hexacode: - == stdin
[14:39] <dhruvasagar> fritsch: not only is it now between all tabs, if there are multiple windows of an app
[14:39] <bhavesh> sileni, It is broken?
[14:39] <shell> come on.....anyone pls
[14:39] <fritsch> dhruvasagar: jep, i see
[14:40] <dhruvasagar> fritsch: Alt+Tab will actually switch to another window of the same app, irrespective of which app was last!
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> dhruvasagar: other forks and distros are also userfriendly, they still have the alt-tab thing
[14:40] <dhruvasagar> fritsch: this is the most horrible change ever
[14:40] <fritsch> dhruvasagar: there are worse ...
[14:40] <fritsch> dhruvasagar: :-(
[14:40] <sileni> bhavesh: no, are you sure you are doing -xvf and not -xzf
[14:40] <sileni> bhavesh: I'm able to untar it fine on my computer
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> shell: if you run:  nm-applet    it should come back
[14:41] <carli2> Polah: internal IPs? (it worked on all other ubuntu versions)
[14:41] <akgraner> Reminder: Contributing to Ubuntu at a Local level: A Roadmap - Randall Ross (rrnwexec) starts at 1500 UTC
[14:41] <dhruvasagar> Ubuntu 11.10 looks good, I won't argue, but why torture people, especially the developers!? I mean why change something as basic as Alt+Tab to make it completely useless!!!!
[14:41] <Polah> sileni: -v shouldn't really affect anything with tar's functioning. It only reports (more) information to the terminal it's running in.
[14:41] <bhavesh> sileni, Even if I double click it return child returned status 2, maybe this one? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1677122&page=3
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: you can use a different ALT+TAB plugin
[14:41] <usr13> Polah: and you dont have to use the - anymore either.
[14:41] <zamba> after upgrading to 11.10 my wlan is broken.. it kinda works, but everytime i get some load, syslog is flooded with stuff like this: http://pastebin.com/2ezxbp8v
[14:41] <shell> i have mistakenly disabled the notification of network connection in gnome shell.How to re enable it?
[14:41] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: please tell me how
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> dhruvasagar: "why" is a philosophical question, find the answer in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:42] <Polah> usr13: So just tar xvf for instance? Does that work with anything or just tar?
[14:42] <sileni> Polah: i know , but i'm more worried about his -z option doesn't that one make it decompress with gzip first?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: its in ccsm
[14:42] <carli2> Polah: i tried with three different laptops, did they all have teh same "internal IP"???? i rather think it's a bug
[14:42] <usr13> Polah: Yes it works
[14:42] <bhavesh> sileni, Shall I try that?
[14:42] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: can you help me ? I have been diggin in ccsm for over 2 days, nothing works, most key binding changes wont even take effect
[14:42] <sileni> bhavesh: give it a try
[14:42] <usr13> Polah: Just tar, use unzip for .zip
[14:42] <bhavesh> sileni, ok
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: so you didn't see the ring switcher?
[14:43] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: let me check again
[14:43] <Ahmuck> is there a way to turn off unity?
[14:43] <xangua> !nounity | Ahmuck
[14:43] <Ahmuck> i HATE unity.  it's getting in my way of getting my classwork done
[14:43] <SIFTU> bhavesh: Polah sileni why does everyone use old school.. use the new option on any compression tar xvvf
[14:43] <Ahmuck> I HATE unity
[14:43] <Polah> carli2: NAT setup should be configured on your router, it works by having a single public-facing address but then several computers behind it are assigned different IPs from a range to identify them to the router. Try setting different static IPs on the two computers (or turning one off for a quick test on the other) and try again
[14:43] <Ahmuck> HATE HATE HATE
[14:43] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: this is no different...
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Ahmuck: we get it!
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> Ahmuck: caps please
[14:43] <Polah> Ahmuck: Use a different environment. There's lots to choose from.
[14:44] <jpds> Ahmuck: Everyone is entitled to their opinions, I love it.
[14:44] <fritsch> Ahmuck: just install 11.04 it is still supported ...
[14:44] <Ahmuck> caps was intentional
[14:44] <sileni> SIFTU: cause we are all old school :(?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: so you dug around for 2 DAYS and didn't see that?
[14:44] <bhavesh> sileni, But thats a zip, what instruction should I use for it?
[14:44] <sileni> bhavesh: unzip
[14:44] <bhavesh> ok
[14:44] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: I was digging to find out to make Alt+Tab work as it used to
[14:44] <Ahmuck> when it takes time to fix and i don't have time to study ... I  (well you know)
[14:44] <Polah> SIFTU: Because it's always good to specify which compression method tar should handle it with just in case it identifies incorrectly when doing it automatically and fails (:
[14:44] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: no I didn't find a ring switcher which isn't even doing anything after enabling...
[14:44] <SIFTU> sileni: well so I am.. but love the vv option, it picks up the compression and decompresses
[14:44] <kaolc2> I just installed xfce. I lost my precious keyboard shortcuts, like pressing ctrl-alt-t to open a terminal. Is there any way to get them all back like they were in the default unity installation?
[14:44] <carli2> Polah: you don't understand. I AM THE ROUTER. shared internet connection opens a nat server on my computer which allows other computers access to the internet. and I have "Gemeinsam mit anderen Rechnern" on the server and DHCP on the client
[14:44] <reisio> kaolc2: yup
[14:45] <sileni> SIFTU: i will keep that in mind thank you
[14:45] <SIFTU> Polah: I have never had it fail unless I dont have the archive utility installed
[14:45] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: the first key binding it has is <Super>Tab, which does not work, pressing Super opens the left side dock, pressing Tab after does no effect
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: I believe the default initiator is Super+ALT+TAB
[14:45] <reisio> kaolc2: Settings > Window Manager, & Settings > Keyboard
[14:45] <kaolc2> reisio: How? Do I manually have to set up everything?
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> bhavesh: but you get the idea
[14:45] <Polah> carli2: Oh, I see what you mean. You're handling traffic for your own system and for a system behind yours. I couldn't help you with that, other than perhaps advising to check your configuraton
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: those pluginis dictate how ALT+TAB works, so if you see what each does and if it does do what you need then use it
[14:45] <reisio> kaolc2: you could script it I s'pose
[14:46] <Polah> SIFTU: Oh yeah sure it probably won't and shouldn't fail, but you never know (;
[14:46] <alvin47> demit
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: have you asked in #compiz   too?
[14:46] <carli2> Polah: it's the same configuration as in the previous ubuntu versions
[14:47] <Polah> carli2: Doesn't necessarily mean it'll work. You could try asking in #networking too
[14:47] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: no, I have been trying on my own mostly, I have been struggling with a lot of issues, including audio and graphics driver
[14:47] <jbkc85> ok; so I can get my unity to work only if I add the commands to 'startup'
[14:47] <jbkc85> I have tried deleting my gconf settings to reset things but it still will not work
[14:47] <jbkc85> (on my user profile)
[14:47] <ppcblaster> I have a long question don't want kicked for flooding
[14:47] <SIFTU> Polah: well it just seems the current method IS failing, whicvh is why I suggested xvvf
[14:47] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: can I disable unity plugin in compiz withotu f*cking up anything ? I have been too scared to try....
[14:47] <kaolc2> reisio: Well, there's nothing like, for example, the terminal shortcut there.. But I can just add it under keyboard settings then. Which command would I enter there to open up a new terminal?
[14:48] <reisio> kaolc2: well Xfce's terminal is called "terminal" :p (or possibly "Terminal")
[14:48] <bhavesh_> sileni, make install returns No rule to make target "install".stop
[14:48] <trans> hello guys, I have dell xps, which one do u insist me to install, ironhide or bumblebee?
[14:48] <reisio> kaolc2: but you can use whatever term you want that's installed
[14:48] <jbkc85> I was in compiz settings and was just looking at what I could do: suddenly it crashed and now whenever I log in I get no GUI.  I have to cntrl-alt-t to start everything through terminal.  This only happens on my user profile; any ideas?
[14:48] <carli2> Polah: it works for two seconds and then disconnects.
[14:48] <bhavesh_> sileni, I did unzip, then sudo su then make install
[14:48] <Polah> kaolc2: Depends what environment you're on. GNOME has gnome-terminal, KDE has konsole for example
[14:48] <ppcblaster> Noob Here
[14:48] <ppcblaster> When installing Ubuntu 11.10 I chose a removable 200GB hard drive shrunk the win 7 64 os to about half the HDD
[14:48] <ppcblaster> Created a 1GB swap file, and the remaining partition for Ubuntu.
[14:48] <ppcblaster> First time with Linux, What size Swap file is recommeneded and what partition type Win 7 uses NTFS.
[14:48] <ppcblaster> What type for Ubuntu?
[14:48] <FloodBot1> ppcblaster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:48] <ppcblaster> This removable drive  was the only drive connected to the PC when I installed Ubuntu.
[14:48] <ppcblaster> After the install all seeemed to work well. Grub appeared and Ubuntu and Win 7 were available.
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: not sure, you can always drop to text mode and reset it with:  unity --reset
[14:48] <pdtpatrick> Question .. how do u completely remove gnome 3 if u install gnome-shell. For some reason it changed my themes and now i cannot get it back to unity.
[14:49] <kaolc2> reisio: When I try to run "terminal" or "Terminal" from the terminal, it doesn't pop up.
[14:49] <kaolc2> Polah: I'm using xfce
[14:49] <dhruvasagar> ActionParsnip: well I think I will have to do that, it seems to have messed things up
[14:49] <reisio> kaolc2: it's possible you'll have to explicitly install it
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: the guys in #compiz will be able to help more
[14:49] <kaolc2> reisio: But I'm already running it, it should be there?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> dhruvasagar: I havent use compiz in a long time
[14:49] <bhavesh_> sileni, The last result after unzip was inflating: AR81...
[14:49] <reisio> kaolc2: xfce4-terminal
[14:49] <ppcblaster> sorry
[14:49] <ppcblaster> don't understand
[14:49] <reisio> kaolc2: is the package name
[14:50] <jdpond> is xfce4-terminal the lightweight Unity interface?
[14:50] <kaolc2> reisio: It says it's not installed, but I'm running the command in one.. Not very logical, but oh well, I'm getting it now then :)
[14:50] <pratz>  hey guys i am using ubuntu 10.04, when i use static ip address and i can not connect to freenode but when i use  dynamic ip address ( automatic DHCP ) i get connect to freenode, any idea why ??
[14:50] <reisio> kaolc2: and then of course after installing it dpkg -L xfce4-terminal | grep bin will confirm the executable name
[14:50] <auronandace> !paste | ppcblaster
[14:50] <sileni> bhavesh_: wehre did you do make install
[14:50] <fritsch> pratz: wrong dns, wrong default gw?
[14:50] <ppcblaster> I think I did it correctly
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> kaolc2: install guake, run it then use F12 to hide and show a terminal when you want one
[14:50] <reisio> jdpond: no... it's a terminal for Xfce
[14:50] <sileni> did you cd into the /src folder?
[14:50] <Polah> ppcblaster: Equal to or greater than the amount of RAM on the system you plan to be using it one. 1GB at least. If you want to be able to access your Ubuntu partition from Windows you can use NTFS or it may be better to use ext3/4 and then install some extensions on Windows to support ext3/4. If you want to share data, perhaps a small-ish ext3/4 partition for Ubuntu then another NTFS partition to put data on for both.
[14:50] <sixfourbitorthir> Hello you Ubuntu heads, fans, common linux users, or newbZzzSZzz.
[14:51] <reisio> jdpond: like gnome-terminal is one for GNOME
[14:51] <bhavesh_> sileni, It was inside a new folder on desktop
[14:51] <sileni> bhavesh_: there sould be a src folder where you unzipped it
[14:51] <kaolc2> reisio: Neat, thanks.
[14:51] <joaq_bu> hola
[14:51] <reisio> shalom
[14:51] <sileni> bhavesh_: yes cd into the src folder and try again
[14:51] <sixfourbitorthir> I want to know, how can I tell if my HARDWARE is 32bit, or 64bit from Terminal?      I do not want the OS's archetech, I want hardware's.
[14:52] <joaq_bu> hola xebabux
[14:52] <jdpond> reisio: I'm facing kind of the same problem.  I'd like to install a lightweight gui terminal for the "challenged" operators, but when I installed the server, haven't been able to get on up.  I've been looking for how to install the lightweight version of Unity, unsuccessfully
[14:52] <Polah> sixfourbitorthir, proc /cat/cpuinfo | grep lm
[14:52] <bhavesh_> sileni, Linux kernel source not configured - missing autoconf.h. stop
[14:52] <xebabux> hola joaq_bu
[14:52] <reisio> jdpond: the "2d" version?
[14:52] <xebabux> que tal?
[14:52] <Polah> sixfourbitorthir, if you get an output with "lm" highlighted then your processor is 64-bit capable
[14:52] <reisio> jdpond: pretty sure it comes by default, you just have to set it from the DM
[14:53] <fritsch> Polah: there was a little typo cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep lm
[14:53] <jdpond> I guess, I never use it - I'm looking for the lightest weight possible.  Set it from the DM?
[14:53] <kaolc2> ActionParsnip: I'm not using gnome.
[14:53] <Polah> fritsch: Oh yeah, my bad
[14:53] <trans> hello guys, I have dell xps nvidia supporting optimus, which one do u insist me to install, ironhide or bumblebee?
[14:53] <sproaty> hi I just noticed "take screenshot" no longer has the "select area to capture" option in 11.10
[14:53] <Polah> sixfourbitorthir, cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep lm
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> kaolc2: for KDE use yakuake
[14:53] <reisio> jdpond: the login screen
[14:53] <sproaty> means having to save the whole window and edit it
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> Polah: not:  cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep lm
[14:54] <sproaty> hmm and I can't scroll through tabs with the mousewheel
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> Polah: ?
[14:54] <Polah> ActionParsnip, huh?
[14:54] <jdpond> reisio: I've already got the servers up and running - but only command line interface.   I was looking for something like "sudo apt-get install idiot-interface"
[14:54] <Pici> ppcblaster: Don't message floodbot1 with your paste, just put it on http://paste.ubuntu.com and reference the URL it gives you
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> (15:52:16) Polah: sixfourbitorthir, proc /cat/cpuinfo | grep lm
[14:54] <kaolc2> ActionParsnip: I'm not using KDE. I'm using xfce.
[14:55] <xangua> ...
[14:55] <Polah> ActionParsnip, oh yeah, I got proc and cat the wrong way around. Fritsch corrected me
[14:55] <xangua> kaolc2: use guake :P
[14:55] <xangua> and here we go again
[14:55] <kaolc2> xangua: I thought it was gnome-only. Okay.
[14:56] <jdpond> reisio: And I'm also very concerned about whether or not it automatically installs the xserver - which means I'd need to lock that down too.
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> kaolc2: that uses GTK, so you can use guake. If you want something light then use tilda
[14:56] <pratz> can the dns and the gateway ip be same ??
[14:56] <Polah> ppcblaster, don't private message me please. GRUB should be configurable to work over multiple disks
[14:56] <reisio> jdpond: wouldn't personally put a GUI on a server
[14:56] <kaolc2> ActionParsnip: Checking out guake now, thank you.
[14:56] <sileni> bhavesh_: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=101481
[14:56] <edbian> pratz: yes, they usually are if you have a home router
[14:56] <sileni> bhavesh_: i have to go now i'm afraid
[14:56] <pratz> i am unable to connect to freenode channel when i use static ip but able to connect when i use dynamic ip
[14:56] <sileni> bhavesh_: i hope you get it fixed take care
[14:57] <bhavesh_> sileni, ok np. Thank you :D
[14:57] <edbian> pratz: Are you trying to set a static IP that is in the DHCP range?
[14:57] <Polah> pratz: No. IP is your computer's IP (or what you want it to be), subnet mask will typically be <IP_ADDRESS> for a home network, gateway is your router and DNS is the IPs for a DNS server somewhere, try <IP_ADDRESS> for Google's DNS servers
[14:57] <reisio> guake has GNOME deps :p
[14:57] <jdpond> I wouldn't either - but if I don't get the network engineers on board, I'm going to end up supporting them myself reisio
[14:57] <pratz> edbian: i asked on #freenode and they said it is a dns server problem
[14:57] <carlos__> i need to convert .iso to .img. can someone point me in the right direction?
[14:57] <edbian> pratz: point your DNS to something like <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:57] <reisio> jdpond: is that really your responsibility?  You going to get compensated for that?
[14:57] <CarlFK> th_: muting the login leaves the speaker muted.  and it doesn't persist to the next login.
[14:57] <Polah> jdpond: You can change your boot settings so that the default boot procedure doesn't load X and gives a command line interface, but then when necessary the boot procedure can be changed to start X as well
[14:58] <reisio> carlos__: ISO is a standardized image format
[14:58] <kaolc2> ActionParsnip: It seems nice so far, thanks.
[14:58] <jdpond> 1) It is my responsibility to make sure it happens and 2) No, I wouldn't get compensated for it - but I'll still have to do it.
[14:58] <reisio> carlos__: can you be more specific
[14:58] <Charlie2> Is it possible to do a netstat showing the process ID and also the network interface it's using. I know you can do netstat -i etc.. but that doesn't list the applications etc
[14:58] <pratz> edbian: in dns entry i have 2 ip address , one is same as gateway
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> kaolc2: it's badass. Should be default if you ask me
[14:58] <edbian> pratz: what is the other?
[14:58] <pratz> edbian: and they are in x.x.x.x
[14:58] <carlos__> reisi, i have a image.iso that i need to dd to a sd card
[14:59] <reisio> carlos__: should be good to go
[14:59] <pratz> edbian: with all the same but ends with .1
[14:59] <Polah> pratz: Change them to <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> in that order
[14:59] <pratz> Polah: means ?
[14:59]  * cwillu stabs LjL
[14:59] <Cradam> pratz: that is the google DNS ip
[14:59] <edbian> oh gawd a murder!
[15:00] <Polah> pratz: Change your two DNS IPs to those two...
[15:00] <LjL> cwillu :3
[15:01] <jdpond> reisio: BTW, I do have WebMin on them, but need something they can run from the KVM
[15:01] <madalin> Nagios related question. The following scenario: I have server1, connecting to server2. Server2 has an internal network. I'm trying to get server2 to ping an INTERNAL ip on the network and passing its results to server1. I'm reading about check_nrpe and check_ping, but im way too lost. Anyone can help me out ?
[15:01] <reisio> jdpond: minesweeper?
[15:01] <auronandace> !webmin | jdpond
[15:02] <Pici> madalin: #nagios would probably be a better place to ask.  Or possibly #ubuntu-server
[15:02] <jdpond> ubottu: I know that - not using it for upgrades and configuration - using it for monitoring and basic operator gui - but thanks.
[15:03] <madalin> thanks pici.
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> pratz: http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html  will help apply it long term as the resolv.conf file is generated by network manager
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> pratz: http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html  will help apply it long term as the resolv.conf file is generated by network manager
[15:04] <Shakti> desperately need help
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> Shakti: ask away
[15:04] <Shakti> unable to install Ubuntu 11.10
[15:05] <Shakti> stuck at Gpu lock
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> !details
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset
[15:05] <pavan> how do I completely remove nvidia
[15:05] <Shakti> yes also need to remove nvidia
[15:05] <Shakti> tried sudo apt-get remove nvidia-17
[15:05] <Shakti> tried sudo apt-get remove nvidia-173
[15:05] <Shakti> but failed
[15:06] <usr13> Shakti: How did it fail?
[15:06] <usr13> Shakti: Did you reboot yet?
[15:06] <Shakti> it said virtual packages cannot be removed
[15:06] <usr13> Shakti: You should also remove the config file, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:06] <Shakti> how do i?? i am a noob
[15:07] <usr13> Shakti: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:07] <usr13> Shakti: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:07] <mneptok> Shakti: you said you could not install. if the system is not installed, well, there's no driver to remove.
[15:07] <Shakti> exactly.. i get the battery status ok message
[15:08] <jdpond> uh, sorry auronandace - didn't see the bot request.  Tried installing Zentyal - total disaster.  Weak product.
[15:08] <Shakti> and over that i get the gpu lock up message
[15:08] <Fred__> lol
[15:08] <Shakti> let me start over what i did...
[15:08] <auronandace> jdpond: never used it sorry, i just know webmin isn't supported anymore
[15:09] <Shakti> downloaded the iso - installed it within windows
[15:09] <Shakti> on restart, got the fuzzy screen and couldn't see  a thing
[15:09] <mneptok> Shakti: oh, you're using Wubi. something i have never done.
[15:09] <jdpond> Ok, thanks for the help all - I guess I'm going back to gnome and bagging the Unity lite attempt.
[15:09] <Shakti> restarted - slected option for low vga
[15:10] <Shakti> this installed the Ubuntu
[15:10] <Shakti> but on restart i get the battery status ok message and the gpu-lockup
[15:10] <usr13> Shakti: So now you have a normal Ubuntu install?
[15:10] <Shakti> yes
[15:10] <usr13> And you get errors?
[15:10] <Shakti> yes
[15:11] <usr13> battery status ok message and the gpu-lockup?
[15:11] <usr13> Is that what it says?
[15:11] <alex-> How can I transform a file into an ISO file? The filename is: source.debian.tar.gz
[15:11] <[4-tea-2]> I'm starting to think that audio isn't the only thing the oneiric upgrade has broken... I don't think my system has taken longer than a couple of minutes to build a kernel in the past decade. My current make-kpgk has now be running for 30+ mins and it's not done yet.
[15:11] <usr13> mkisofs
[15:12] <kimma> hello
[15:12] <Shakti> so what do u think i must do
[15:12] <kimma> should one always upgrade to the new version of ubuntu every 6 months?
[15:12] <jdpond> Shakti: If it's any comfort, I tried doing the update on one of my servers and it ended up dying the same way - probably something to do with the 6 ethernet ports I had on it configured in a very funky way.  When I rebuilt the system from scratch, it worked fine.  The other servers upgraded pretty much painlessly - except that I lost all the GUIs
[15:12] <SIFTU> [4-tea-2]: is it using all the cpu cores?
[15:12] <Borlax> Usually the .04 releases are long term support
[15:13] <SIFTU> [4-tea-2]: make -j9 ...
[15:13] <Borlax> so if you want to you can stick with the .04. its not necessary to upgrade
[15:13] <Shakti> hmm
[15:13] <auronandace> Borlax: no, it is every 4 releases
[15:13] <jrib> kimma: as long as you use a supported version, that's fine
[15:13] <kimma> Borlax: I want to install the normal version
[15:13] <william12> kimma: if u don't wanna upgrade u don't have to
[15:13] <tado> help! during the upgrade to 11.10 the power went down, and the upgrade stopped. now i have tried to finish it from chroot running from a live, but when i turn the computer on it stops after the ubuntu screen with a black screen and stops after saying 'TiMidity: startin alsa MIDI' or something similar... someone can help? i am really lost...
[15:13] <Shakti> unfortunately.. have windows 7
[15:13] <conntrack> what port is telnet?
[15:13] <fritsch> conntrack: let me google it for you
[15:13] <jdpond> conntrack: 22
[15:13] <Borlax> auronandace: im pretty sure it is ever .04
[15:14] <fritsch> jpjacobs: nope this is ssh
[15:14] <jdpond> (or 25)
[15:14] <usr13> Shakti: Can you elaborate on the gpu-lockup?
[15:14] <jrib> Borlax: LTS is every 2 years
[15:14] <rkessel> problem setting up ubuntu 11.10
[15:14] <Borlax> gotcha, my mistake sorry
[15:14] <auronandace> Borlax: 10.04 is lts, 11.04 isn't, 12.04 will be
[15:14] <Shakti> sure..
[15:14] <[4-tea-2]> SIFTU: yes, I realize I didn't set CONCURRENCY_LEVEL this time around, but still it shouldn't take half an hour running on an SSD. ;)
[15:14] <fritsch> jdpond: this round you loose 23 would be correct
[15:14] <Jefo> hi. i installed ubuntu on an usb stock. could i make a copy just by copieng these files (want a backup)?
[15:15] <kamelot314> quit
[15:15] <Shakti> usr13.. on pm
[15:15] <SIFTU> [4-tea-2]: its CPU bound, not disk bound
[15:15] <iceroot> Jefo: when only the files are copied you cant boot the backup
[15:15] <induz> why my screen is getting scrambled
[15:15] <induz>  and the ubuntu response is slow
[15:15] <Borlax> Anyone know how to change the unity bar settings so that it isnt underneath all my windows when i go to open the dash?
[15:15] <rkessel> it took me 10 hours for an install then i tried using a clean install and it still hangs
[15:16] <induz> how can i free up memory to get it running faster
[15:16] <jdpond> fritsch: Not a good morning for me ):   The correct answer is: http://www.gasmi.net/tcp.php
[15:16] <Jefo> iceroot, the usb stick needs the a label or something?
[15:17] <tado> someone can help me with my failed upgrade? i can't enter my system anymore...
[15:17] <kdog> My dash is coming up behind open windows. Is there a fix for this?
[15:17] <[4-tea-2]> SIFTU: well, I forgot CONCURRENCY_LEVEL before, and it didn't take that long. I'll try again using all cores... once it's done. ;)
[15:18] <Borlax> kdog: thats what im trying to fix too
[15:18] <Borlax> kdog: i didnt see anything in my compiz settings
[15:18] <kdog> Borlax, oh good. It's nice to not be the only one :-P
[15:18] <iceroot> Jefo: it needs the bootloader, the same file-permission and so on. dd is a good tool to make a real copy of your usb-stick
[15:18] <wiredfool> Borlax:  kdog: happened to me, then it cleared up w/ logout or reboot
[15:19] <iceroot> Jefo: you want an exact copy which can start also? or just a backup of your important files like documents, movies and so on?
[15:19] <Borlax> wiredfool: just a bug i guess.
[15:19] <SIFTU> [4-tea-2]: well if you look at top/htop and 1 core is at 100%, you know, and of course if you set concurrency to the number of cores you have it will be that many times faster
[15:19] <wiredfool> Borlax: yep, one of many
[15:19] <Borlax> wiredfool: ill try that
[15:19] <hatchetjack> how do I get my traditional style gnome back?
[15:19] <Borlax> wiredfool: yeah im regretting upgrading right now.
[15:20] <auronandace> !notunity | hatchetjack
[15:20] <hatchetjack> right
[15:20] <hatchetjack> and unity sucks and has to go
[15:20] <carli2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/863878
[15:20] <carli2> poll
[15:20] <Borlax> yeah, i am not thrilled with unity
[15:20] <auronandace> hatchetjack: good thing i usae xfce then
[15:20] <_trine>  GNOME Fallback mode sucks too
[15:20] <Borlax> and 11.11 made it a little worse
[15:20] <hatchetjack> hhmmmm
[15:20] <helix_9> Hello together, is it possible to mount a IPcam(Network Camera) on /dev/video0 ?
[15:20] <Borlax> 11.10***
[15:21] <hatchetjack> I like gnome better then kde but maybe kde is not as bad as unity
[15:21] <JuJuBee> I have a script that uses phpMailer and runs fine if run manually, but when I try to run via cron I get http://pastebin.com/GgU6WDtg Any help?  I tried ##php already...
[15:21] <JuJuBee> Seems more system related.
[15:21] <_trine> i think we should have a lynch mob and go string up the unity designer :)
[15:21] <_trine> just joking
[15:21] <rkessel> not joking
[15:21] <_trine> in case anyone thinks I'm serious
[15:21] <jdpond> "occupy Unity"?
[15:21] <Borlax> its pretty though, if thats what they were going for with unity
[15:21] <Borlax> jdpond: lol
[15:22] <tado> hey folks. the power went out during upgrade to 11.10 and i can only use my computer through a live version now. anyone that can try and give me a hand fixing it?
[15:22] <Borlax> tado: did you back up?
[15:22] <jdpond> Borlax: "lol" - human microphone
[15:22] <Jefo> iceroot, i want like a clone. because last 2 times i updated i f**ked my ubuntu up
[15:22] <wiredfool> I'd settle for "hack prefs files into unity"
[15:22] <Borlax> tado: might need to just reinstall from scratch
[15:23] <rkessel> I tried from scratch and it keeps hanging up
[15:23] <qin> tado: Backup and make fresh install. Save your time.
[15:23] <gb> tado: i had the same just follow rgw directions after doing an aptitude install
[15:23] <tado> Borlax: no. i can still see my folders from the live, although i have no access. i need to restore the installation or complete the upgrade, i can't make a fresh install
[15:23] <wiredfool> no access sounds like it's got disk errors, and it's mounted read only
[15:23] <wiredfool> try unmounting and fsck
[15:23] <rkessel> i tried to reinstall from disk
[15:23] <gb> i am still in process of recovering my desktop, all very messy
[15:23] <thiebaude> hey everyone. How do I uninstall ati graphics drivers from ubuntu 11.10?
[15:24] <gb> shall be switching to pure debian asap and get away from the crappy enforced defaults which give ne bkinding migraines
[15:24] <hatchetjack> why did ubuntu think up unity anyways?
[15:24] <tado> wiredfool: i tried to complete the upgrade from chroot, and it worked, but now the screen loads after the ubuntu loading page and stops after timidity starting alsa midi or something alike
[15:24] <hatchetjack> other desktop GUI's not good enough or something?
[15:24] <gb> all getting very microsoft
[15:24] <tado> Borlax: would you have any idea how to recover the system?
[15:25] <thiebaude> i just installed my ati drivers and now i get tearing of text
[15:25] <jrib> tado: how did you complete the upgrade?
[15:25] <tado> jrib: followed the instruction from a chat channel : got in as chroot and completed it
[15:25] <jrib> tado: yes, what did you do exactly?
[15:25] <Polah> hatchetjack, this isn't the place to complain. Use another environment if you want.
[15:25] <tado> jrib: after the chroot?
[15:26] <jrib> tado: yes
[15:26] <helix_9> Hello together, is it possible to mount a IPcam(Network Camera) on /dev/video0?
[15:26] <tado> jrib: apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:26] <Polah> tado: dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade your release to the next one.
[15:27] <tado> Polah: how do i then? it looked like an upgrade...
[15:28] <overdub> tado: try do-release-upgrade
[15:28] <Polah> tado: It upgrades packages similar to apt-get upgrade, but in a more distribution-safe way I believe. sudo do-release-upgrade will upgrade to the next release.
[15:28] <tado> overdub: just like that from chroot?
[15:28] <kaolc2> I'm trying to hide the top bar in Firefox to get more screen real estate. I am using compizmanager and setting "!(class=Firefox)" under the window decoration setting. This worked under gnome, but now that I changed to xfce it's not hiding anything. Does anyone have an idea why?
[15:28] <tado> Polah: ok, i try now
[15:29] <overdub> type do and then the tab key and you should see it there as possible completion
[15:29] <tado> Polah and overdub: No new release found
[15:29] <jrib> tado: what's in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[15:29] <Einooo> I can decrease my laptops screen brightness from System Settings > Screen, but the settings reset to default when I reboot. How can I get my laptop to boot with a bit less brightness on the screen?
[15:29] <jrib> tado: make sure you are checking on the mounted one, not the live system
[15:29] <Marine1> need help moving extracted tar.gz into correct directory
[15:30] <tado> jrib: how can i see it from the live?
[15:30] <tado> jrib: i think i am checking on the mounted one now
[15:30] <jrib> tado: go to /place/you/mounted/your/install/etc/apt/sources.list
[15:30] <toshiba> hello
[15:30] <Marine1> extraxted it but it's a usr folder
[15:30] <kermit> i added something to /etc/init/ .. how do i make it start?
[15:30] <iDorito> So, how are Ubuntu/Linux apps typically programmed?
[15:30] <iDorito> C?
[15:31] <jrib> !upstart | kermit
[15:31] <Marine1> it's a rythmbox plugin.
[15:31] <iDorito> C++?
[15:31] <hatchetjack> okay somewhat classic gnome back
[15:31] <tado> jrib: ? sorry i don't understand
[15:31] <hatchetjack> apparently I am not good enough to administer my own computer now though?
[15:31] <Marine1> need help moving extracted tar.gz into correct directory it's a rhythmbox plugin.
[15:32] <hatchetjack> or so ubuntu's higher powers feel?
[15:32] <jrib> tado: you are on the live system now, correct?
[15:32] <tado> jrib: yes
[15:32] <jrib> Marine1: where do you want to move it?
[15:32] <jrib> tado: you mounted the partition for your install, correct?
[15:32] <tado> jrib: although in the terminal i followed the procedure fro the chroot
[15:32] <tado> jrib: yes
[15:33] <jrib> tado: where?
[15:33] <Marine1> jrib, into the plugin folder I guess i couldn't ./configure because that file doesn't exisat
[15:33] <auronandace> hatchetjack: if you are using unity blame ubuntu, if you are using gnome 3 blame the gnome devs
[15:33] <jrib> Marine1: what plugin?
[15:33] <tado> jrib: on /mnt
[15:34] <jrib> tado: I am asking you to pastebin the contents of /mnt/etc/apt/sources.list
[15:34] <Marine1> jrib, rhythmbox-record-station-1.3.3-all.tar.gz
[15:34] <hatchetjack> auronandace: actually I still blame ubuntu.
[15:34] <Marine1> jrib, i extracted it but could not ./configure i the terminal
[15:34] <hatchetjack> auronandace: I am trying to get away from unity and back to some normality with gnome.
[15:34] <hatchetjack> auronandace: it's ubuntu's fault
[15:34] <nmpribeiro> i am trying to make gdm in ubuntu 11.10 accept TCP connections. but netstat -an | grep -F 6000 just brings nothing. changed security/DisallowTCP=false, restarted and nothing... can't figure out
[15:34] <Marine1> jrib, it states no such file or directory
[15:35] <jrib> Marine1: rhythmbox-radio-browser is in the repositories and can record, does that work for you?
[15:35] <Marine1> jrib, does it record streaming stations also
[15:35] <jrib> Marine1: yes
[15:35] <Marine1> jrib, that is what this pluin is for
[15:35] <jrib> Marine1: but rhythmbox-radio-browser is in the repositories
[15:35] <hatchetjack> I have gnome back but no system menu options and apparently aptituce install gnome-system-tools has no effect
[15:35] <auronandace> hatchetjack: unity exists because ubuntu devs didn't agree with the way gnome3 was going
[15:36] <Marine1> jrib, i seen that just wanted to install this plugin
[15:36] <hatchetjack> auronandace: just not sure why unity is being forced on me
[15:36] <jrib> Marine1: then you must read your plugin's documentation
[15:36] <Marine1> jrib, it states extract to /
[15:36] <chrono86> has anyone else noticed with 11.10 when you scrub over the network indicator it flashes twice?
[15:36] <tado> jrib: http://pastebin.com/REaVbVgk
[15:36] <jrib> Marine1: why do you keep mentioning "./configure"?
[15:37] <nmpribeiro> can someone help me put x server allowing TCP connections?
[15:37] <Marine1> jrib, that is where my problem lies
[15:37] <Marine1> jrib, if the ./configure file exist in the extracted folder then it complies itself
[15:37] <jrib> Marine1: is that what the documentation tells you to do?
[15:38] <Marine1> jrib, there is no documentaion
[15:38] <jrib> Marine1: ...
[15:38] <Marine1> jrib, let me paste bin for you
[15:38] <jrib> Marine1: before you said "it states extract to /" referring to the documentation
[15:38] <Diaoer> if i don`t use gnome-tweak how to change the font size?
[15:38] <jrib> tado: is the package "ubuntu-desktop" installed?  (check in your chroot obviously)
[15:39] <jrib> Marine1: I just visited the website for your plugin.  Is there a reason you are not using the .deb file provided?
[15:40] <Marine1> jrib, here is the site: http://scrawl.bplaced.net/projects/record-station/
[15:40] <tado> jrib: it wasn't installed, i am installing now
[15:40] <exiff> hallo... how do I stop the alt-key from moving windows around? I need it for other purposes(blender)
[15:41] <Marine1> jrib, i tried that but got a message from software center stating that the file was not legit
[15:41] <Marine1> jrib, or outdated
[15:41] <jrib> Marine1: what was the message exactly?
[15:41] <tado> jrib: it gives me this error http://pastebin.com/TwsfNAm6
[15:41] <Marine1> jrib, since rythmbox is 2.90 i have to use the latest
[15:41] <Marine1> jrib, let me try once agian
[15:42] <jrib> tado: how did you setup your chroot?
[15:42] <tado> jrib: if i give it a apt-get update it's failing to fetch
[15:42] <jrib> tado: but didn't this work before?
[15:42] <jrib> tado: (apt-get update that is)
[15:43] <tado> jrib: i followed a guide on ubuntu.it i'll paste it, a sec
[15:43] <Marine1> jrib
[15:43] <soulf> Hi, I uninstalled the proprietary fglrx graphics driver in order to use the default open source driver but upon reboot (be it in gnome or unity) there's no hardware acceleration... how can I reactivate the open source driver?
[15:43] <Marine1> jrib, here it is: The package doesn't provide a valid Installed-Size control field. See Debian Policy 5.6.20.
[15:43] <exiff> so. how do I change the alt-key ?
[15:44] <tado> jrib: http://pastebin.com/7NnhC8EV
[15:44] <Lesterwood> i could go for some coconut milk right now
[15:44] <Trololol> so im using gentoo, how can i configure my own kernel in Ubuntu?
[15:44] <fritsch> Trololol: just the same way as you did in gentoo
[15:44] <tado> jrib: i honestly don't remember if it worked fine before
[15:44] <alvin47> is there anyway to have a hotkey for the password i always use of?
[15:44] <Marine1> jrib, that is why i tried the other file
[15:44] <fritsch> Trololol: install the packages you need to build, get the source, get default config and go :-)
[15:45] <Trololol> fritsch: is there an option to do taht in the installation?
[15:45] <snoeman> How do I tell which graphics driver my system is using. I have just updated to 11.10. I do not seem to have an xorg.conf filr.
[15:45] <fritsch> Trololol: nope
[15:45] <jrib> tado: try the mount --bind routine with /etc/resolv.conf as well
[15:45] <fritsch> Trololol: ubuntu installs a generic kernel, which runs on every supported hardware
[15:45] <jrib> snoeman: read /var/log/Xorg.0.log (maybe)
[15:45] <fritsch> Trololol: i think you will not gain much speed with rebuilding kernel side
[15:46] <fritsch> Trololol: there is much more to get on userspace side
[15:46] <kebit> I just updated to 11.04, and i get a grub rescue prompt. I think the installer installed Grub2, how can i boot back into my system?
[15:46] <Trololol> fritsch: what about compile flags i assume those are in teh same locations?
[15:46] <fritsch> Trololol: apt-build is the big word of the magician :-) (haha german wordings directly translated)
[15:46] <Marine1> jrib, did you see the message
[15:46] <tado> jrib: that would be mount --bing /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf right?
[15:46] <fritsch> Trololol: you do not need to compile anything
[15:46] <fritsch> Trololol: all are binary packages
[15:46] <jrib> Marine1: ok well the plug-in is written in python.  You only need to extract it to the right directory.  It recommends using the system-wide locations, but I would suggest using the rhythmbox plug-in location in your home instead: $HOME/.gnome2/rhythmbox/plugins according to http://live.gnome.org/RhythmboxPlugins/WritingGuide
[15:46] <arjano> salve ! volevo sapere perché entro come ospite in xubuntu 11.10
[15:47] <Trololol> fritsch: so there arent any source repos for apt?
[15:47] <soulf> Hi, how do I activate the open source ati driver?
[15:47] <arjano> prima avevo xubuntu 11.04
[15:47] <jrib> tado: "bind" instead of "bing", but otherwise that looks correct
[15:47] <usr13> kebit: You upgraded from what?
[15:47] <kebit> 10.10
[15:47] <gwb_> Hi -- In 11.10, my update manager pauses half-way.  I have to open the Details and hit "q".   I guess it is calling "less" or something.  Can I stop that?
[15:47] <kebit> how else would i get 11.04?
[15:48] <tado> !italian | arjano
[15:48] <fritsch> Trololol: there are of course - but not in the way gentoo
[15:48] <usr13> kebit: What do you see on the screen?
[15:48] <tado> jrib: done
[15:48] <Trololol> fritsch: noted, thanks for the info, have a great day
[15:48] <kebit> usr13: "grub rescue>"
[15:48] <Marine1> jrib, so don;t extract the tar.gz file unto the desktop follow the directions at the link you proivded
[15:48] <usalabs> is there a gnome app for Lucid LTS that allows me to change what is shown on the main login screen?,,,, I have 2 system accounts, that I don't want to show up on the login screen,,, System -> Administration - >Login Screen is very basic
[15:48] <kebit> usr13: it  can run nothing but ls, i think
[15:48] <shadowcopy> is there anyway to have a hotkey for the password i always use of?
[15:49] <jrib> Marine1: I do not understand what you just said
[15:49] <tado> jrib: it's hitting the repos now
[15:49] <Marine1> jrib, so extract it to $HOME/.gnome2/rhythmbox/plugins
[15:49] <carli2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/863878
[15:50] <Marine1> jrib, is what I was saying earlier
[15:50] <usr13> kebit: Reading:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1745304
[15:50] <jrib> Marine1: extract the plugin there, yes
[15:51] <akgraner> Up Next  at 1600 UTC in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom chat for Ubuntu Open Week is Getting the most out of LoCo Teams Portal - mhall119
[15:51] <Marine1> jrib, what is the command to extract this python file to that directory
[15:51] <Guest55126> hi
[15:51] <Marine1> jrib, since i don't have a ./configure file
[15:51] <jrib> Marine1: just double click on the tar.gz
[15:51] <induz> hello why my desktop screen gets scarmbled
[15:52] <induz> I have ubuntu 10 running on p4 Intell Pc
[15:52] <keith> Ack. My gnome-session hosed itself. The last thing I did was add skype to the startup apps. Where are those stored? I need to remove it by CL.
[15:52] <induz> I have 1gb Ram
[15:52] <induz> How do i know how much memory is being used
[15:52] <Marine1> jrib, i did it opens up a folder called usr
[15:52] <saml> after upgrading to 11.10,  gvim hangs unless I do  gvim --nofork
[15:52] <jrib> Marine1: your plugin is in there
[15:52] <induz> there is a command but i forgote for memory use
[15:53] <jrib> induz: free -m
[15:53] <SmartIRC> test message
[15:53]  * SmartIRC  thinks this is cool
[15:53] <Guest20379> saml upgrading provide issues just like this. it better to do a install when upgrading
[15:53] <tado> jrib: i have installed ubuntu-desktop. should i try and turn the computer on normally now?
[15:53] <rymate1234> fu
[15:53] <Marine1> jrib, ok i see it it's in the /usr/lib/rhythmbox/plugins/
[15:53] <jrib> tado: no errors?  Did it install a lot of packages?
[15:54] <Marine1> jrib, inside the folder it self
[15:54] <saml> Guest20379, what do you mean?  reinstall gvim? i did
[15:54] <jrib> Marine1: yes.
[15:54] <tado> jrib: no errors and lots of packages
[15:54] <soulf> Is there a way to restore all the default settings in ubuntu 11.10 without reinstalling?
[15:54] <jrib> tado: ok. If you run « sudo dpkg --configure -a », everything is ok?
[15:54] <Guest20379> soulf no
[15:54] <hatchetjack> is there a gnome package that will install the entire gnome suite?
[15:55] <hatchetjack> since ubuntu 11.10 seemed to remove a lot of it?
[15:55] <Guest20379> soulf use the failsafe mode to undo everything you did
[15:55] <tado> jrib: doesn't prompt anything
[15:55] <tado> jrib: which i guess means all good
[15:55] <samadaldin> hi
[15:55] <jrib> tado: yes
[15:55] <hatchetjack> gnome-desktop-environment?
[15:55] <usalabs> I don't want system accounts to show up in the login user list for Lucid LTS, how to I edit the login screen to hide those accounts?
[15:55] <jrib> tado: I would try a restart once more.  If errors popup, try to record them
[15:55] <jean> join #ubuntu-br
[15:55] <Guest20379> soulf or use the os scan to find and fix broken packages
[15:56] <jrib> usalabs: hmm, I thought they didn't.  Which are showing up?
[15:56] <soulf> Guest20379, thanks for your answer. On a related note, do you know what exactly the purpose of the repair system option on the alternate install cd is, or what it does?
[15:56] <Guest20379> usalabs set up auto login
[15:56] <tado> jrib: how do you mean? log out chroot, shut down the live, log in normally?
[15:56] <hatchetjack> seems 'gnome' is what it's called now
[15:56] <jrib> tado: yes
[15:56] <tado> jrib: and record means paper and pencil here, right?
[15:56] <jrib> tado: yes, or camera if you have one
[15:56] <hatchetjack> good grief.  If only ubuntu had asked me if I wanted unity.  Think of the time that would not have been wasted.
[15:56] <usalabs> jrib,,, samba guest is one of them,,,, and I don't want to have auto login, when I have user accounts for 3 different people
[15:57] <charged> omg so many ppl
[15:57] <Guest20379> soulf these option are only avaible in the grub loader
[15:57] <tado> jrib: alright. i'll try. fingers crossed
[15:57] <jrib> tado: maybe try ctrl-alt-f1 if it gets stuck.  You might have console access
[15:57] <tado> jrib: and what to do from there?
[15:57] <soulf> Guest20379, ok thanks.
[15:57] <Guest20379> soulf when ubuntu is starting up right after the bio screen press shift
[15:57] <jrib> tado: if you aren't comfortable in that environment, just return here with that information
[15:57] <Marine1> jrib, do I move the entire folder(usr) over or just the plugin file
[15:57] <induz> how can i reduce mem use
[15:57] <tado> jrib: ok. thanks
[15:58] <jrib> Marine1: the directory inside the plugin folder
[15:58] <Guest20379> soulf in the grub loader you see a list of options
[15:58] <Aquaguy> Hey there
[15:58] <kallisti5> holy crap.  it took over two hours to make Ubuntu 11.10 usable with Gnome 3 getting rid of unity..  http://twitpic.com/71sdow http://twitpic.com/71sd2i
[15:58] <shlk23> hello, i'm having problems with sound recorder after upgrading to 11.10. when i try to open volume control, it says 'gnome-volume-control is not installed in the path'
[15:58] <Guest20379> kallisti5 why not get a different distro with gnome 3
[15:59] <kallisti5> Guest20379: because, ubuntu is the only apt based distro with Gnome 3
[15:59] <Shakti> usr13.. u there
[15:59] <kallisti5> Guest20379: once debian has Gnome 3 in stable i'm going that route :)
[15:59] <keith1> Where is the file to edit the startup apps?
[16:00] <Marine1> jrib, sorry bro what is the command for that?
[16:00] <Aquaguy> everytime that the system asks me for the admin password, after entering it and pressing ok it stops the task it was doing. For example right now I have the 11.10 update message, I press Update, downloads the files and when it's prepared to install it asks me for the password but after entering the password the update is aborted (the password prompt overlay dissapears and nothing else happens). Why is that? How can I solve t
[16:00] <Aquaguy> his problem, it's driving me crazy it happens everytime the system asks for the admin psswd
[16:00] <crass> kallisti5: do you have a set of instructions that you used to get gnome3 working?
[16:00] <Guest20379> kallisti5 change the DE is often unstable
[16:00] <Guest20379> sklk23 driver issue
[16:00] <th_> kallisti5: i'm not sure which part of the 'apt-get install gnome-shell' took 2 hours
[16:00] <Guest20379> sklk23 use the build in hardware app
[16:01] <crass> th_: does that hook gnome3 into the light-dm?
[16:01] <th_> yes
[16:01] <Aquaguy> anyone?!
[16:01] <shlk23> Guest20379, how do i do that?
[16:01] <SunTsu> strange, cryptroot tries to mount /dev/mapper/system (where system is the vg name) instead /dev/mapper/system-root - which would be my volume for / - on Maverick it worked flawlessly
[16:01] <Diaoer> anyone tell me how to change font-family and fonts-size without gnome-tweak-tool
[16:01] <Aquaguy> please??? ahahaha
[16:02] <ricb17> anyone have a moment to help me w/ an issue on 10.04 LTS desktop accessing a windows DFS share?
[16:02] <crass> ok, thanks th_
[16:02] <Guest20379> shlk23 the application is build in
[16:02] <th_> Diaoer: you can only change size from the accesibility options
[16:02] <kallisti5> crass: everyone:  kallisti5's *simple* gnome 3 desktop...   http://pastebin.com/CwGCviuP
[16:02] <usr13> Shakti: Yes
[16:02] <usr13> I am now...
[16:02] <ricb17> http://pastebin.com/4aEp9Ynp
[16:02] <Diaoer> thx th_ let me see
[16:02] <th_> gnome-shell unfortunately doesn't work with ati cards so it's pretty useless
[16:03] <kallisti5> crass: oops.. ignore lines 33 and 34
[16:03] <ricb17> is the error received while trying to access the DFS share.  It works fine on 11.X ubuntu desktop, just not 10.04 LTS
[16:03] <kallisti5> th_: yeah.. i found that happen at home
[16:03] <th_> with latest drivers it at least starts, but doesn't work. can't launch any opengl app
[16:03] <Aquaguy> Hey there
[16:03] <th_> and i like my games
[16:03] <Aquaguy> everytime that the system asks me for the admin password, after entering it and pressing ok it stops the task it was doing. For example right now I have the 11.10 update message, I press Update, downloads the files and when it's prepared to install it asks me for the password but after entering the password the update is aborted (the password prompt overlay dissapears and nothing else happens). Why is that? How can I solve t
[16:03] <Aquaguy> his problem, it's driving me crazy it happens everytime the system asks for the admin psswd
[16:03] <Marine1> jrib, You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "file:///usr/lib/rhythmbox/plugins"
[16:03] <Aquaguy> anyone can help me?
[16:03] <asllihja> any help with this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/847037 ?
[16:03] <th_> unity works, dno how gnome people can screw up things so badly
[16:03] <jannick> Hi, i've got the following problem: I had ubuntu 11.04 on my system updatet to 11.10, Everything went fine. I didn't change the hardware but i installed XFCE4 which somehow killed my ubuntu. Now, when i try to reinstall every thing the process of starting the live cd freezes, last two messages are: doesnt support DPO or FUA and "attached scsi removable disk" Why is that happening now? (I tried
[16:03] <jannick> it with new Ubuntunu 11.10 and 11.04 and mint and fedora)
[16:03] <jrib> Marine1: yes, I suggested you use the one in your home
[16:04] <kallisti5> th_: it's not gnome... amd confirmed a bug in the functionality gnome is using
[16:04] <compdoc> Aquaguy, dont get what you mean by admin password - did you assign a password to root? They try to discourage that
[16:04] <Guest20379> compdoc it would ask for root password
[16:04] <kallisti5> th_: there is a ticket on the novell bug tracker for gnome 3 on it with AMD engineer comments
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> th_: there are blogs about the love/hate for Unity
[16:04] <compdoc> it asks for the user password
[16:04] <Guest20379> Aquaguy check your user account settings
[16:04] <boldfilter> Hey, I cant connect my ipod 4, get a unhandle lockdown error 15 , says its been fixed but mines doing it. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/libimobiledevice/+bug/795475
[16:05] <Guest20379> Aquaguy under groups and users
[16:05] <Diaoer> hi th_ i want to change the fonts smaller but the access config  font smaller is too small to see
[16:05] <Aquaguy> compdoc, every time i try to install something, or a program attemps to do a change on the system a overlay appears asking for the admin/root password. After entering the password it doesnt do anything else.
[16:05] <Diaoer> any config file can did it?
[16:05] <Aquaguy> ok, i'll check
[16:05] <Marine1> jrib, inside that .gnome2 there isn't a folder for rythmbox that i why i treid the other location
[16:05] <nmpribeiro> can someone help me put x server allowing TCP connections please?
[16:06] <jrib> Marine1: create it
[16:06] <compdoc> Aquaguy, it normally asks for the user's password. The user youre logged in as. Root has no password
[16:06] <leeping> Hi there - I've got an issue where the GNOME desktop background appears but I can't log in.  I can access the text terminals and log in remotely via ssh.  Can someone help me identify the problem?  Thanks.
[16:06] <leeping> I don't remember making any changes to my system.  I've tried resetting the computer and also doing power off / on.
[16:07] <leeping> (I'm running natty)
[16:07] <crass> I'm trying to to use the text based installer, and have to select the iso, which is a partition on a usb stick, but the installer fails to load the iso. Saying in the syslog: FATAL: Module loop not found.
[16:07] <Marine1> jrib, should it say rythmbox or rythmbox/plugin
[16:07] <Aquaguy> compdoc, ok, so for the user password, doesn't care, I'm entering the correct password but the process doesnt continue in this case, the update
[16:07] <javuntu> hi
[16:07] <rod33> i have multi-screen with nvidia, how can i switch e.g. movie or game to fullscreen on one screen? When i put to fullscreen it goes in the middle of 2 screens or shows only half of the picture.
[16:07] <crass> indeed there is no loop module, however, it appears to be built into the kernel. Is this a bug in the installer?
[16:07] <tado> jrib: no luck... how can i paste you the pictures?
[16:07] <compdoc> Aquaguy, what version of Ubunut?
[16:07] <jrib> Marine1: think about that :)
[16:07] <jrib> tado: imgur.com is one way
[16:08] <javuntu> do I have to unlock/enable something in order to have my external monitor detected by Ubuntu ocelot (lenovo thinkpad laptop) ?
[16:08] <jrib> Marine1: try both if you aren't sure and see what happens
[16:08] <rod33> Using Ubuntu 10.04 ...  x.x
[16:08] <SunTsu> javuntu: no, works here quuite well, you might need to setup stuff for xorg
[16:09] <javuntu> SunTsu: oh :(
[16:09] <SunTsu> javuntu: I norally use nvidia tool to do that
[16:09] <spockockt> hello I was wondering if I set the network.proxy.socks_remote_dns option to true does this mean that people possibly sniffing my packets will be unable to see my dns requests?
[16:09] <tado> jrib: there are two images, since i tried to log in twice and this appeared after the ubuntu screen with the orange and white dots.
[16:09] <tado> http://imgur.com/32xPK,rXAGN
[16:09] <javuntu> SunTsu: oh I have a nvidia card and I'm using nvidia drivers
[16:09] <spockockt> and all they will see is a connection made to my ssh node?
[16:09] <Aquaguy> compdoc I'm using 11.04
[16:10] <crass> spockockt: run wireshark and find out. It probably won't affect plugins like java and flash
[16:10] <jrib> tado: were you able to access a tty?
[16:11] <kdog> Has anyone else lost their top bar? The one with the applets, clock, etc? How do I restart it?
[16:11] <soulf> After uninstalling proprietary graphics drivers I'm stuck in fallback mode (be it in gnome-shell or unity (ubuntu 11.10). What can/should I do?
[16:11] <tado> jrib: a command line? i didn't try now..... but i am quite sure i tried earlier today and it worked
[16:12] <SunTsu> javuntu: nvidia-settings is what you are looking for. It can output xorg.conf so you can make your stuff permanent
[16:12] <ghusson1> irc://irc.hackbbs.org/
[16:12] <jrib> tado: the problem now is I am not sure gdm is being used in 11.10 :)
[16:13] <javuntu> SunTsu: thanks!
[16:13] <javuntu> SunTsu: have a great day ^_^
[16:13] <Polah> jrib: LightDM is used for standard Ubuntu. Kubuntu still uses kdm at least
[16:13] <tado> jrib: i actually don't think so..
[16:13] <xangua> kdog: tried to reset¿: unity --reset
[16:13] <sburwood1> Anyone wanna help me fix Thunderbird?  I've looked around for a solution to the "Thunderbird already running" problem, to no avail.  I have 11.10 in 64 bit
[16:13] <kdog> xangua, nope. Will try.
[16:13] <Polah> sburwood1: Do ps -A to find out it's pid, then kill it with -9 and retry opening it
[16:14] <Aquaguy> hey i've recorded a really short video with the problem
[16:14] <Aquaguy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMa72dbFCYA
[16:14] <Marine1> jrib, the file is the folder but the plugin is not showing up in rhythmbox
[16:14] <jrib> Polah: do you know what the service is named?  /etc/init/??? ?  Or do you want to help tado as to why he does not see lightdm when he boots after an upgrade? :)
[16:14] <sburwood1> Polah: The problem is that, when I look in System Monitor, there is no presence of either thunderbird nor thunderbird-bin
[16:14] <jrib> Marine1: it is multiple files, no?
[16:14] <jamil_1> hi all, I am trying to copy 2 virtual box's vdi files of size 12 and 7.5 gig to external HD over usb
[16:14] <Polah> sburwood1: run ps -A | grep thunderbird
[16:15] <rod33> How to get multimonitor fullscreen to work?  Open source ati driver used to work great. What can/should I do?
[16:15] <jamil_1> but cp complains that files are too large
[16:15] <jamil_1> and only copies 4 gig of each
[16:15] <jamil_1> ideas ?
[16:15] <Marine1> jrib, yes about 7 files
[16:16] <sburwood1> Polah: I just did ... and it came back with nothing
[16:16] <jrib> Marine1: maybe you need the localization files as well or maybe the plug-in has hard-coded some system-wide paths
[16:17] <jonasgamma> anyone knows how format a pendrive in Xubuntu?
[16:17] <Marine1> jrib, now i'm lost
[16:17] <Marine1> jrib, what is next basically
[16:17] <sburwood1> Polah: So it tells me that it is running when I try to start it, but it is nowhere
[16:17] <jrib> Marine1: can you do: find ~/.gnome2/rhythmbox    and pastebin the result?  Also, you need to make sure you install the dependencies listed on the plug-ins site?
[16:17] <tado> jrib: can this be something for me? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11342387#post11342387
[16:17] <jrib> s/\?$//
[16:18] <jean> someone could help me about unity?
[16:18] <sburwood1> Polah: I'm gonna walk the dog, but I hope you'll be able to find a solution when I get back.  I would appreciate it, in any case
[16:18] <jrib> tado: that reconfigures your system to use gdm.  You can try it and see
[16:18] <sburwood1> jean: What is the question?
[16:19] <tado> jrib: alternative ideas? :)
[16:19] <sburwood1> jean: The question is vaste
[16:19] <ubuntuCEO> hi, how to display chinese characters in evince?
[16:19] <Marine1> jrib, the file is exactly in the .gnome/rhythmbox/plugin with all the py and plugin files
[16:19] <templet> i cannot rearrange icons on oneiric on the unity panel
[16:19] <jean> I logged in with unity but not the sidebar appears, button-down, walk
[16:20] <templet> oops i meant sidebar
[16:20] <jrib> tado: that seems like a reasonable thing to try.  I would check logs and attempt to start lightdm in tty1
[16:20] <jean> my unity 2d is OK
[16:20] <tado> jrib: i can try that, but i have a question before i reboot: how to log in on my user when i open the terminal?
[16:21] <jrib> Marine1: you keep saying "the file" but I do not know what this means
[16:21] <jrib> tado: as usual, just type your username and then your password
[16:21] <Marine1> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/711039/
[16:21] <jrib> Marine1: that looks right.
[16:21] <tado> jrib: alright i'll see you in a minute! thanks again
[16:22] <Marine1> let me see if all the dependencies are in the software center
[16:22] <jean> not have access to the terminal when I just unity by 3D
[16:22] <Marine1> jrib, the plugin still doesn't show up in rhythmbox
[16:23] <jrib> Marine1: you installed all the dependencies?
[16:23] <Marine1> jrib, i'm working on it now
[16:23] <jrib> Marine1: I would also attempt to run rhythmbox fresh from a terminal to look for output
[16:24] <gwb_> Hi -- In 11.10, my update manager pauses half-way.  I have to open the Details and hit "q".   I guess it is calling "less" or something.  Can I stop that?
[16:24] <leeping> I started GDM in Natty and the login screen does not appear.  I can't find anything relevant in Xorg.0.log or dmesg.  Can anyone provide further pointers?  Thanks
[16:24] <surround> how to add application in startup that requires sudo privileges
[16:25] <jazz> łohhoho
[16:25] <david_ha1tch> My headphone jack doesn't work. This has always been a problem on this laptop, but now the  old fix doesn't work. The old fix: http://www.linlap.com/wiki/asus+g50v, under Notes>Sound.
[16:25] <usr13> gwb_: Try from terminal.  sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:25] <surround> how to add application in startup that requires root privilges
[16:25] <jrib> surround: be more specific
[16:25] <usr13> leeping: What do you get instead of the login screen?
[16:25] <jazz> wow i feel good turum turum turum tym
[16:25] <jrib> jazz: so good?
[16:25] <enapupe_> Hi, i need some help installing ubuntu on an empty hd
[16:26] <surround> jrib: i want to add preload in startup
[16:26] <TomSlominski> hello. I've upgraded to 11.10 a couple days ago because i wanted to check it out before i went to germany. now, i have multiple problems. ive updated just now, but flash in chrome still doens't work.
[16:26] <usr13> leeping: dmesg   #Should give you some clues.  Also, hit Esc during boot to see messages as it boots.
[16:26] <enapupe_> I want to split the HD onto 300gb system and 700gb data, what should I choose on 'mount point'? /root, / ?
[16:26] <david_ha1tch> enapupe_: boot from disc, press next until you're done. It's quite automatic on an empty drive.
[16:26] <david_ha1tch> enapupe_: Oh.
[16:26] <KomiaPoika> hi
[16:27] <surround> jrib: preload so that it can automatically  monitor heavy application that i start
[16:27] <jrib> surround: are you sure it's not already starting at boot?  iirc, preload is run as a daemon automatically if you used the repositories
[16:27] <KomiaPoika> i have an old laptop with a dlink external pcmcia lan card, do i need any particular packages to make the laptop see the card?
[16:27] <usr13> enapupe_: What are you going to do with the 700gb partition?
[16:27] <david_ha1tch> enapupe_: You could put /home on the data partition, and everything else on system.
[16:27] <enapupe_> I don't know this concept.. what's the difference
[16:28] <enapupe_> of using both in / ?
[16:28] <leeping> usr13, I'm looking at dmesg and not seeing anything suspicious.  Also, hitting esc during bootup does nothing.
[16:28] <usr13> enapupe_: Basically, I would have a partition for / and another for /home and another for swap.  That is all.
[16:28] <david_ha1tch> Repeating: My headphone jack doesn't work. This has always been a problem on this laptop, but now the  old fix doesn't work. The old fix: http://www.linlap.com/wiki/asus+g50v, under Notes>Sound.
[16:28] <Polah> enapupe_: You probably won't really need 300GB for the system
[16:28] <enapupe_> the second must be logic?
[16:28] <usr13> leeping: So you just get a black screen when boot is finished?
[16:29] <surround> jrib: How to know that
[16:29] <jrib> surround: check with « ps -ef »
[16:29] <xsaidx> hello guys
[16:29] <usr13> leeping:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/ubuntu-11-10-black-screen-after-boot-screen-908044/
[16:30] <xsaidx> i removed apache but i still have /etc/apache2 can i rm it it wont be danger ?
[16:30] <Polah> enapupe_, perhaps around 100GB system, mountpoint would be /, a few gigabytes of swap, then a 900ishGB data partition mounted at /home perhaps, or /media/anything you like. You don't need any logical partition unless you already have four primaries
[16:30] <Aquaguy> everytime that the system asks me for the admin password, after entering it and pressing ok it stops the task it was doing. For example right now I have the 11.10 update message, I press Update, downloads the files and when it's prepared to install it asks me for the password but after entering the password the update is aborted (the password prompt overlay dissapears and nothing else happens). Why is that? How can I solve t
[16:30] <Aquaguy> his problem, it's driving me crazy it happens everytime the system asks for the admin psswd
[16:30] <Aquaguy> hey i've recorded a really short video with the problem
[16:30] <cutiyar> waiting network configuration on booting how can be fix?? i used some tutorial doesnt work
[16:30] <Aquaguy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMa72dbFCYA
[16:30] <FloodBot1> Aquaguy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:30] <enapupe_> Polah: ty, I think i got it..
[16:31] <leeping> usr13, it isn't a black screen.  But I think I'm beginning to find the issue, it has something to do with my custom install of gtk.
[16:31] <necromancer> where is the mysql socket located by default in ubuntu?
[16:31] <Polah> enapupe_: swap partition should be at least as large as your RAM (unless you have like 16GB of RAM or something like that)
[16:31] <enapupe_> I have 4gb
[16:31] <enapupe_> is swap necessary?
[16:31] <thiebaude> !swap
[16:32] <arlo> hello
[16:32] <Polah> enapupe_, yes I'd make at least a 2GB swap partition
[16:32] <enapupe_> Ok.. is swap logic or primary?
[16:32] <enapupe_> or whatever..
[16:32] <enapupe_> ?
[16:32] <Polah> enapupe_, your choice.
[16:32] <arlo> are there a people to help me with serve
[16:32] <arlo> r
[16:32] <enapupe_> what' the difference?
[16:32] <wiredfool> enapupe_: it's used for hibernate if you have at least as much swap as memory
[16:32] <tado> jrib: yes! bingo!
[16:32] <jrib> arlo: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[16:32] <jrib> tado: cool
[16:32] <arlo> ok
[16:32] <surround> jrib: NO application found named preload in the list
[16:32] <Polah> enapupe_, the only thing that really requires a primary partition is a Windows system, because it's silly like that.
[16:32] <enapupe_> what' the difference between logic and primary
[16:33] <enapupe_> ok.. so swap and data is logic?
[16:33] <usr13> leeping: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/811441
[16:33] <arlo> Are there a persion to help me open af port 80 in my router
[16:33] <arlo> with teamwiewer?
[16:33] <tado> jrib: thanks a lot for helping. among other things, you have saved a university project and a job application :)
[16:33] <jrib> tado: no problem,  though you already had access to your files before you came here :)
[16:34] <Polah> enapupe_, primary partitions have their information stored in the MBR section of the disk, logical partitions have their information stored outside the MBR and an extended partition inside the MBR tells the system to look for the logical partition info elsewhere. The limit on four primaries is due to the limit on MBR size
[16:34] <Polah> enapupe_, no. They can be primary or logical, doesn't really matter.
[16:34] <enapupe_> ok
[16:34] <tado> jrib: nope. encrypted home folder.. at least I didn't know how to access it
[16:34] <D_Russ> anyone having issues with gwibber broadcast? clicking the blank space in the scroll bar does not go down 1 page as it should on gwibber broadcast.
[16:34] <usr13> arlo: See my pm
[16:34] <arlo> ok
[16:34] <jrib> tado: ah, if you ever need to just do: /msg ubottu encrypted
[16:34] <usr13> arlo: Are you sure it is your router?
[16:34] <Polah> enapupe_, I'd make them all primary unless you need to have more than four primaries and plan to put other partitions for things that required primaries
[16:35] <tado> jrib: alright, thanks again
[16:35] <no3> im trying to setup dual moniters and they are both plugged in but the computer cant detect the other monitor?? anyone know something about this?
[16:36] <templet> i can't move icons in ubunty unity sidebar :(  ?
[16:36] <ghusson1> hackprint
[16:37] <Mathuin_> So vncserver no longer does what it used to do now that I upgraded to oneiric.  How do I get the old functionality back?
[16:37] <xangua> templet: if you mean add, just open the dash and drag any app you want to the launcher
[16:37] <m4k> U jus drag
[16:37] <ghusson1> french ?
[16:37] <templet> xangua, i need to rearrange the order i upgraded from natty
[16:37] <leeping> usr13, I don't think that's my error, but thanks. :) I think I'm getting closer to solving my problem ..
[16:38] <staannoe> no3: Nvidia card and driver?
[16:38] <Mathuin_> Alternatively, if someone can tell me how to use vino on a headless system, that'd be great.
[16:38] <neroZZ> Hi, got some audio problems... after i installed xfce4 with alsa-utils and alsa-base audio worked for me... after i rebooted no moe audio
[16:38] <no3> ati
[16:39] <wiredfool> so, I've dragged the tuxpaint icon to the dock, and I've got an empty space where it should be. It launches ok, and the context menu works. It's confusing the kids to tell them to click in the empty space
[16:39] <hagus> Under this new unity system, how do I enable hidden files to be seen?
[16:39] <no3> ohhh i think i got it ...
[16:40] <ChaosBringer> Hey guys
[16:40] <staannoe> no3: sorry, haven't been using them for years
[16:40] <xangua> hagus: in nautilus: control+h
[16:40] <hagus> I want to see those files name .eclipse etc.
[16:40] <hagus> thank xangua :)
[16:40] <hagus> thanks even :)
[16:41] <neroZZ> has someone an idea howto get rid of the alsa problem
[16:41] <ChaosBringer> quick question: My Ubuntu shows Edubuntu in the splash and in the lightdm windows (I've searched everywhere in google to try to switch back to the normal ubuntu splash and lightdm screens), the OS i have installed in my computer IS Ubuntu (NOT EDUBUNTU), so how can i make it switch back the Splash (boot) screens and LightDM screens?
[16:42] <hagus> That worked as you predicted xangua :)
[16:43] <hagus> Thanks again xangua - all worked as you predicted
[16:43] <Marine1> jrib, hey bud
[16:43] <gwb_> usr13: yeah that works, and it *does* run less I have to hit "q" to make apt-get continue.  I'd like to keep that but change it for the gui, so that the latter does not wait.
[16:43] <jrib> Marine1: hi
[16:43] <Marine1> jrib, all dependencies all installed but pulgin not there. I probably am missing something
[16:43] <guimli> join btrfs
[16:43] <jrib> Marine1: run rhythmbox from a terminal
[16:44] <guimli> zut
[16:44] <archana> Hi..  I have ubuntu 10.10 in my laptop's extended partition.. And at a primary partition outside this extended partition, I installed the new Ubuntu 11.10.. But I just don't get the boot time theme of ubuntu.. Just running texts...   How do I fix this?  The grub is in the root of ubuntu 10.10 which is in extended partition.
[16:44] <archana> Please help me. Thanks.
[16:45] <Titmouse> Guys I've changed my window theme in gnome 3 but how do I use the same theme as the GTK theme?
[16:46] <ChaosBringer> quick question: My Ubuntu shows Edubuntu in the splash and in the lightdm windows (I've searched everywhere in google to try to switch back to the normal ubuntu splash and lightdm screens), the OS i have installed in my computer IS Ubuntu (NOT EDUBUNTU), so how can i make it switch back the Splash (boot) screens and LightDM screens?
[16:46] <cb750rider> Hello, I am having problems using the gcc compiler. Programs that compiled fine last week under 10.4 LTS no longer compile. The linker no longer finds functions from math.h. Any thoughts on how to fix this?
[16:47] <[4-tea-2]> Ah, my audio is back. Now for the next problem: does anybody know whether libSDL should work on a multiarch system? (If not, I can stop thinking about what I'm doing wrong.)
[16:47] <MaGiK> can somebody tell me how can i remove the guest accound on ubuntu :/
[16:47] <tycel> I'm trying to get Ubuntu to play my DVDs, but it says a decrpyter is not installed
[16:47] <tycel> is it talking like ffmpeg or something?
[16:48] <Tenkawa> [4-tea-2]: which arch's?
[16:48] <drainbamage> hii
[16:48] <drainbamage> i am currently running ubuntu 10.04 on dell XPS 15
[16:48] <Aetherix> tycel: check here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[16:48] <drainbamage> it has got intel HD as well as NVIDIA GT 540M
[16:48] <tycel> okay
[16:49] <MaGiK> can somebody help me delete the guest accound on ubuntu 11.10 ?
[16:49] <Tenkawa> drainbamage: heh my asus is like that
[16:49] <[4-tea-2]> Tenkawa: I have the x86_64 libsdl installed, but when I try "apt-get install libsdlblabla:i386" for a 32-bit application apt-get tells me it wants to remove the 64bit version.
[16:49] <Tenkawa> drainbamage: do you have to turn ahci off to use the nvidia card?