[00:00] <kostkon> ammini, if it is successful, logout and log back in and check again
[00:00] <pfifo> CPPCoder: your doing it wrong, you want to 'gcc `python-config --cflags --libs` myapp.c'
[00:01] <ammini> kostkon: I'd done update and upgrade, followed by a reboot. Didn't do clean autoremove and the dpkg  --configure -a
[00:01] <kostkon> ammini, do them now then
[00:02] <CPPCoder> pfifo: Neat, but why doesn't including it directly work?
[00:02] <interweb> When does ubuntu 14.04 release ?
[00:03] <CPPCoder> gtg, sorry
[00:03] <kostkon> !trusty | interweb
[00:03] <houkouonchi-work> is it my imagination or was it ever called 'tasty' ?
[00:04] <kostkon> interweb, also see this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[00:04] <kostkon> houkouonchi-work, nah
[00:04] <houkouonchi-work> i was just fixing up my chef recipes earlier for trusty...
[00:18] <brooks111> hi all
[00:19] <overwhelm> hi
[00:19] <brooks111> i was in here earlier and daftykins helped me out, just wanted to let you know that my USB did end up being under HDD
[00:19] <overwhelm> when im trying to install iceweasel it says Note, selecting 'firefox' instead of 'iceweasel'
[00:20] <overwhelm> anyone know why?
[00:21] <daftykins> brooks111: nice :D
[00:21] <brooks111> I'm on a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04 does anyone know why my home folder is only 1gig?
[00:21] <brooks111> yes daftykins  thanks so much!
[00:22] <daftykins> my pleasure :) 1GB you say? that'd be odd. this is the new install's /home ? can you use paste.ubuntu.com to share the output of "df -h" in terminal?
[00:22] <brooks111> ok
[00:22] <RFleming> overwhelm, isn't iceweasel just a rebranded firefox?
[00:23] <brooks111> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7159957/
[00:23] <kostkon> !info iceweasel
[00:23] <kostkon> !find iceweasel
[00:24] <kostkon> aha..
[00:24] <daftykins> brooks111: are you sure you're not just booted into a live session from the flash drive still?
[00:24] <brooks111> hehehe i bet you're right daftykins
[00:24] <brooks111> ok will reboot thanks
[00:26] <RFleming> kostkon, that solves that I guess
[00:27] <kostkon> RFleming, mmm?
[00:27] <RFleming> kostkon, iceweasel = firefox
[00:27] <kostkon> RFleming, yeah
[00:29] <john_rambo> I am using 12.04. Sometimes I connect to a vpn but problem is whn I press ctrl+z it shows the connection is terminated but when I do ifconfig I find the vpn connection is still actice
[00:29] <daftykins> ctrl+z backgrounds processes afaik, it doesn't end them
[00:30] <john_rambo> How to end it ?
[00:30] <daftykins> is it a command line connection?
[00:30] <john_rambo> Yes
[00:30] <daftykins> ctrl+c then
[00:30] <john_rambo> ctrl+c has no effect
[00:31] <planecool> hello
[00:31] <planecool> thoonai: are u afk?
[00:31] <planecool> thoonai:  can u help me tonight?
[00:31] <planecool> need to revert back to fglrx servers
[00:31] <planecool> i mean graphics card
[00:31] <planecool> could anyone help me?
[00:32] <RFleming> john_rambo, are you using openconnect?
[00:32] <john_rambo> RFleming, I am using openvpn
[00:32] <daftykins> planecool: you need to ask a question first
[00:33] <RFleming> john_rambo,  killall openvpn
[00:33] <planecool> my question is how do i switch back to fglrx drivers
[00:33] <planecool> heres what i did http://pastebin.com/0fNgYaEe
[00:33] <RFleming> john_rambo, sounds like it's been daemonized
[00:34] <planecool> anyone got any advice?
[00:34] <planecool> http://pastebin.com/0fNgYaEe
[00:34] <john_rambo> RFleming, Okay ...I will try it. Its not active atm ...freenode doesnt allow connecting via vpn AFAIK .......Thanks
[00:34] <RFleming> john_rambo, are you running with the --daemon option?
[00:34] <daftykins> planecool: you need to give us more than 5 seconds to come up with a response
[00:34] <john_rambo> RFleming, No
[00:34] <RFleming> check the config file and see if it's selected
[00:34] <planecool> ok.
[00:34] <planecool> sorry
[00:34] <john_rambo> Under openSUSE ctrl+z worked just fine
[00:34] <planecool> im 16 and not so patoent
[00:34] <brooks111> hey daftykins you were right I was on the live, but another problem has arisen heh
[00:35] <planecool> im learning a lot about linux
[00:35] <planecool> who ever knew sudo did more then make u root?
[00:35] <RFleming> john_rambo, ctrl+z just backgrounds the process, which you then use fg to bring back to the front
[00:35] <RFleming> if openvpn isn't daemonized, then CTRL-C should kill it.
[00:35] <daftykins> planecool: seems you've had some odd history there - trying to install both AMD and nvidia drivers on the same system 0o
[00:35] <daftykins> brooks111: oh? :)
[00:36] <planecool> yes....
[00:36] <john_rambo> RFleming, I tried ctrl+c ...I will try it again then
[00:36] <RFleming> john_rambo, sometimes scripts and programs require you to press ctrl-c twice
[00:36] <shwaiil> hi
[00:36] <planecool> daftykins:  i found out that nvidia driverrs do not work so well with amd ... :|
[00:36] <brooks111> yeah when I boot normally I get the windows bootloader with options for windows recovery or fedora (which i installed quite a while back, forgot about it)
[00:36] <RFleming> john_rambo, just in case the first was an 'accident'
[00:36] <john_rambo> Okay ...Got it
[00:36] <planecool> so... id like to go back to whatever my os came with
[00:36] <planecool> that worked quite nice
[00:36] <daftykins> planecool: hehehe - so it looks like you get as far as downloading AMD drivers and unzipping them but no further? how come?
[00:37] <planecool> welll....
[00:37] <planecool> i kinda got stuck
[00:37] <shwaiil> Q: I've got a secondary hdd, used gparted and formatted the disk. Now I've got a lostfound folder, and I cant seem to have permissions to create folders ?!
[00:37] <planecool> did it unzip?
[00:37] <planecool> what do i do to install the amd drivers?
[00:37] <planecool> now that they are unzipped
[00:37] <planecool> cd?
[00:38] <planecool> sudo sh *.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/raring
[00:38] <planecool> but.... whats the *
[00:38] <RFleming> shwaiil, how are you mounting?
[00:38] <daftykins> planecool: that'd work if you're running 13.04 - which hopefully you're not (run "cat /etc/issue" to confirm)
[00:38] <etrope> any idea why i can't make a key short cut with the commnads in compiz (ubuntu 12.04) that works?Any experience or help is wellcome!
[00:38] <brooks111> any idea why that would happen?
[00:38] <etrope> for byoubu ,i mean
[00:38] <planecool> i runnint 13.10
[00:39] <daftykins> shwaiil: where did you mount that disk to? you'll need to set ownership/permissions
[00:39] <shwaiil> RFleming, thanks for looking! It's mounting automatically. I'm running ubuntu13.10. So, I've got /dev/sdb1 - extended, then /dev/sdb5 - ext2, then the mount point is something like /media/xxx/xxxx-xxxx-xxxx
[00:39] <daftykins> planecool: you want to follow a guide to install AMD catalyst drivers with saucy the
[00:39] <daftykins> *then
[00:39] <Bashing-om> shwaiil: Create folders ? -> how are you trying to, and where are you trying to create these folders ?
[00:39] <monst> hellos
[00:40] <monst> I have having some issues with an NFS mount, pretty stumped
[00:40] <daftykins> brooks111: hrmm, what are you in right now? OS wise
[00:40] <shwaiil> daftykins, Bashing-om  thanks for looking! I'm using the GUI, so, I basically click in the hard drive and mouse right click and those options are not available
[00:40] <monst> It mounts at boot, but if I umount then mount it won't mount
[00:40] <brooks111> i just booted back to live ubuntu
[00:40] <planecool> my mom thinks im not working!!
[00:41] <daftykins> brooks111: could you run "sudo fdisk -l" and pastebin that?
[00:41] <monst> any help would be appreciated
[00:41] <etrope> please some one who'd know byobu?
[00:41] <josef_> Is it possible to make a network installation without a router, only dsl modem?
[00:41] <brooks111> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7160022/
[00:42] <planecool> daftykins: where is the guide?
[00:42] <daftykins> planecool: in your google results when you go looking for it :)
[00:42] <planecool> ugh
[00:42] <daftykins> lol
[00:43] <daftykins> you have to work for yourself my boy
[00:43] <planecool> my mom says im not doing anything
[00:43] <daftykins> this life doesn't hand things to you
[00:43] <planecool> she says im playing games
[00:43] <planecool> no time
[00:43] <daftykins> sounds like she's right
[00:43] <planecool> ....
[00:43] <planecool> yah reinstalling all of ati drivers on linux is so much fun...
[00:43] <planecool> sure.
[00:44] <RFleming> shwaiil, chown username:username /media/username/xxxx
[00:44] <RFleming> then you can write
[00:44] <daftykins> brooks111: looks to me you have a Linux install on both disks now!
[00:44] <planecool> SUCY seems to be 12. osmthing where as i have 11.1o
[00:45] <planecool> whoops 13.10
[00:45] <RFleming> shwaiil, that'll be sudo chown :)
[00:45] <brooks111> daftykins: yes when i had windows on this hdd i had wubi install on other hdd, and I guess i installed fedora on the same hdd as wubi at some point
[00:45] <monst> anyone good with NFS?
[00:45] <etrope> any one knows how to create a short cut key for byobu in ubuntu 12.04?
[00:46] <shwaiil> RFleming, just wondering. How to avoid this next time ? When using GUI Gparted asks me for root password. So, if I use i, I'll always have this error ?
[00:46] <RFleming> shwaiil, for each disk you'll have to change owner, but once you change it... it should stick
[00:47] <shwaiil> RFleming, worked fine, thanks a lot!
[00:47] <RFleming> shwaiil, the mounting for removable media isn't really meant for file systems with permissions
[00:47] <planecool> everything i find seames to lead back to this http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-fglrx/286775#286775 but therss no optin for 13.10...
[00:47] <RFleming> shwaiil, you could use fat32 for removable media and not have an issue
[00:47] <daftykins> brooks111: are you comfortable disconnecting hard disks in that system?
[00:47] <shwaiil> RFleming, in this case, this is not removable media, so it should stick right ? the ownership
[00:48] <brooks111> daftykins: sure thing
[00:48] <RFleming> shwaiil, if it isn't removable media, then use /etc/fstab to mount instead.
[00:48] <RFleming> shwaiil, is it always connected?
[00:48] <daftykins> brooks111: assuming ubuntu went onto one which windows wasn't on before, it should boot on its' own if you pulled the previously-windows drive temporarily
[00:49] <shwaiil> RFleming, this mounts automatically when I boot. It's always conncted it's a SSD in my laptop, secondary.
[00:49] <brooks111> daftykins: i chose the option to install over windows
[00:49] <daftykins> brooks111: ah ok, in that case it hasn't really done good enough of a job killing it by the looks. just to check, you're absolutely sure you have no data on either disk you want to keep?
[00:50] <planecool> daftykins: help!!
[00:50] <planecool> http://sourceforge.net/projects/uaci/ ???
[00:50] <planecool> easy way mabye
[00:50] <brooks111> daftykins: absolutely nothing on here I care much about.
[00:50] <planecool> but does not work
[00:50] <planecool>  <planecool> everything i find seames to lead back to this http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-fglrx/286775#286775 but therss no optin for 13.10...
[00:50] <RFleming> shwaiil, when you say automatically mounts... do you mean you've put an entry inside /etc/fstab, or are you double-clicking the drive in unity?
[00:51] <shwaiil> RFleming, I just used Gparted and I didn't configured anything else.
[00:51] <daftykins> brooks111: cool :) how do you want to use both disks with ubuntu then? 2 x 1TB is a lot for ubuntu really
[00:51] <kandinski> I'm trying to play some proprietary system's m4v files through vlc, but it doesn't work for me. What other m4v player does Ubuntu (13.10) have? When I try to use Movie Player, a window appears looking for gstreamer codecs and not finding any. I think I have the correct sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7160068/
[00:51] <brooks111> daftykins: i was thinking I would put some other distros on second hard drive
[00:51] <RFleming> shwaiil, then it isn't 'auto mounting' :)
[00:52] <brooks111> daftykins: but im most comfortable with ubuntu so I want to use this as main OS
[00:52] <daftykins> brooks111: ah ok, you might as well completely nuke each drive as they stand now then. if you click the dash icon top left then type and run 'gparted' you should get the partition editor program up
[00:52] <shwaiil> RFleming, so how's is the disk showing up ?
[00:53] <brooks111> daftykins: yup I got gparted open already to look at my drives
[00:53] <RFleming> shwaiil, Ubuntu sees it and sticks it in unity... then you double-click it and ubuntu mounts it for you
[00:53] <RFleming> hence why it's in /media/username
[00:53] <shwaiil> RFleming, oh ok. So, in this case the ownership will stick ? after boot ?
[00:53] <brooks111> daftykins: so I should just format second hdd completely?
[00:54] <daftykins> brooks111: if you go between /dev/sda and /dev/sdb and just delete every partition then - (you may have to right click and select 'swapoff' on swap partitions)
[00:54] <RFleming> shwaiil, in this case yes.  The next disk you attach that has an FS that uses permissions, you'll have to change owner on that folder
[00:54] <planecool> daftykins: help me man
[00:54] <planecool> daftykins:  i only find help for older version no 13.10
[00:54] <brooks111> daftykins: do I also want to delete /dev/sda1?
[00:55] <daftykins> planecool: replace 'raring' with 'saucy'
[00:55] <planecool> yes i have 13.10
[00:55] <daftykins> brooks111: yep delete every partition on each so they're empty
[00:55] <planecool> only find instructions for 13.04...
[00:55] <RFleming> shwaiil, check out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/1644/mounting-a-usb-disk-in-a-permanent-location
[00:55] <daftykins> planecool: sigh, tell your mother i feel sorry for her
[00:55] <ammini> pfifo: FYI, I installed nautilus again and now Places is working as expected.
[00:55] <shwaiil> RFleming, thanks a lot for your time! I'll remember that next time
[00:55] <planecool> ok..
[00:55] <planecool> im too tired
[00:55] <RFleming> shwaiil, it's udev that does the magic you're seeing :)
[00:55] <planecool> i can't think
[00:56] <daftykins> < planecool> sudo sh *.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/raring
[00:56] <daftykins> planecool: replace 'raring' with 'saucy'
[00:56] <ammini> pfifo: I assume there might have been a partial update/upgrade, which was b0rking things. I appreciate your help in getting this sorted. Thank you.
[00:56] <brooks111> daftykins: alright now I have two unallocated hdds
[00:56] <planecool> heres what i google how to instal fglrx on ubuntu saucy
[00:57] <brooks111> daftykins: so now I just apply operations, reboot and then install ubuntu again?
[00:57] <daftykins> brooks111: make sure they're applied on both disks but one more thing...
[00:57] <daftykins> brooks111: ok we're going to run a couple of terminal commands to make sure each drive is nicely nuked before continuing, open a terminal and run "sudo -i" (the prompt will now read root@) then "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M count=100"
[00:58] <daftykins> brooks111: and again for the second disk "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=2M count=100"
[00:58] <planecool> daftykins:  i need Precise Pangolin ??
[00:58] <planecool> whats whith all the rymes in linux...
[00:59] <daftykins> planecool: i *handed* you the answer above and you're still lost? i don't know how it's possible to make it any easier
[00:59] <planecool> just say they above anser
[00:59] <RFleming> planecool, Just go to Software & Updates -> Additional drivers and select the drivers you want to use. I chose the fglrx drivers.
[00:59] <brooks111> daftykins: alright did those commands for each disk
[00:59] <planecool> ok.
[00:59] <RFleming> planecool, I got that from here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/359209/how-to-install-the-amd-catalyst-drivers-in-ubuntu
[00:59] <planecool> thanks
[00:59] <RFleming> I don't use AMD, so I can't help you further
[00:59] <planecool> i have that open
[01:00] <planecool> i hate amd
[01:00] <planecool> im saving up for a nivida 770
[01:00] <daftykins> RFleming: hehe, i officially pass you the hat of holding planecool's hand in this trying time
[01:00] <daftykins> brooks111: good stuff, you should've seen 200MB or thereabouts written to each disk
[01:00] <brooks111> daftykins: yup 210M
[01:00] <RFleming> planecool, use this wonderful link... http://bit.ly/1hYXFMR
[01:01] <RFleming> daftykins, lmgtfy ;)
[01:01] <planecool> i have like the first three links open RFleming
[01:01] <RFleming> planecool, now read them and follow the instructions
[01:01] <RFleming> you can do it kid
[01:01] <RFleming> make the world proud
[01:01] <RFleming> we have faith in you
[01:02] <daftykins> brooks111: it'd be handy to shutdown, disconnect your second disk, boot up and install to the full size of your first disk, then connect the other up again once you've confirmed ubuntu boots fine
[01:02] <RFleming> planecool, let the wise words of Miss Frizzle guide you
[01:02] <RFleming> planecool, 'Take chances, make mistakes, get messy.'
[01:02] <brooks111> daftykins: alright thanks.  just curious what is the if/of in that command?  inputfile?
[01:02] <planecool> yep
[01:02] <planecool> it says no addtional drivers avaiable
[01:03] <planecool> it also says im not using any linux frivers...
[01:03] <planecool> ugh
[01:03] <daftykins> brooks111: yep input and output file
[01:04] <brooks111> daftykins: sorry for all the Qs but what file was being copied there?
[01:04] <RFleming> planecool, let our almighty saviour Google be your shepherd.  His light will guide your way
[01:04] <planecool> being brave and trying sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle
[01:04] <daftykins> brooks111: it's a nice way of zero'ing data, (writing zeroes) there it's basically nuking the first chunk of the disk where bootloaders are to stop them surviving
[01:04] <planecool> thats what i need...
[01:04] <planecool> hope i purged right
[01:04] <planecool> and hope it works...
[01:04] <RFleming> ... and ignore
[01:05] <daftykins> he doesn't google apparently
[01:05] <brooks111> daftykins: ahh so you just copied something 100 times to clear that area
[01:05] <Bashing-om> planecool: "it says no addtional drivers avaiable" I have to ask, what ATI card do you have ?
[01:05] <planecool> umm a pice of shit laptop card
[01:05] <brooks111> daftykins: alright well thanks so much I'll let you know how it goes
[01:05] <planecool> its a
[01:05] <daftykins> brooks111: yep a 'bs' or blocksize of 2MB 100 times to make 200MB to just clear a bit
[01:05] <brooks111> daftykins: ah i thought it was bytesize :)
[01:06] <daftykins> there's nothing wrong with the hardware, there's just an extremely young and impatient piece of pinkware running on the seat in front of it
[01:06] <planecool> whats the command ? lspci vga ?
[01:06] <planecool> time to google...
[01:06] <Bashing-om> planecool: FYI ATI 2X/3X/4X series cards no longer have support from AMD .
[01:07] <etrope> byoubu remember me?:)
[01:07]  * RFleming passes the support-torch on to Bashing-om
[01:07] <daftykins> Bashing-om: think he's running a 5xxx
[01:07] <RFleming> Bashing-om, good luck.
[01:07] <daftykins> RFleming: let's run while we still can
[01:08] <planecool> this is what i have.
[01:08] <planecool> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS690M [Radeon Xpress 1200/1250/1270]
[01:08] <RFleming> daftykins, I don't have to run the fastest... just faster than you :)
[01:08] <daftykins> D:
[01:08] <daftykins> ok that's not the hardware i remember
[01:08] <Bashing-om> *bashing-om* long on patience (most of the time) .. we all goota learn - planecool  ..
[01:09] <daftykins> absolutely, that kid won't even google though =/
[01:09] <planecool> i just did google
[01:09] <daftykins> that seems to be an oooooold card
[01:09] <planecool> came up with all these websites
[01:09] <daftykins> yeah, it does that
[01:09] <planecool> for example i found this nice command sudo lspci | grep -i vga
[01:09] <planecool> and a lot of other stuff
[01:09] <planecool> ive goolged like 4o times tonihgt
[01:09] <planecool> i jsut gave up and asked here
[01:10] <planecool> i like to think im good with comps
[01:10] <planecool> but im not good with linux
[01:10] <RFleming> planecool, then you would have found this:http://askubuntu.com/questions/128072/ati-rs690m-x1200-proprietary-driver-installation
[01:10] <planecool> this looks good http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/8-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[01:10] <RFleming> ATI RS690m X1200 proprietary driver installation
[01:12] <Bashing-om> planecool: Back to square 1 .-> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 | pastbinit <-, post back the resulting URL.
[01:12] <planecool> i need the right filke though
[01:12] <planecool> ok
[01:12] <planecool> yes sir
[01:12] <daftykins> Bashing-om: oops minor typo there *pastebinit
[01:12] <planecool> i get grep error...
[01:12] <RFleming> daftykins, lmgtfy :)
[01:13] <planecool> wtf!
[01:13] <RFleming> Weeeeeeeeee
[01:13] <kostkon> !split
[01:13] <wi_ol> kk
[01:13] <axizor> anyone ever use gpart (not gpartED) for partition recovery?
[01:13] <planecool> umm
[01:13] <kostkon> :/
[01:13] <kostkon> !netsplit
[01:13] <Bashing-om> ubuntu -- no such thing as a minor typo ! .. pretty litteral minded ! ,, thanks !
[01:13] <planecool> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3
[01:13] <planecool> is that the command?
[01:13] <planecool> it don't owrk
[01:14] <planecool> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 this command does not work!~~
[01:15] <axizor> guess thats a no...
[01:15] <Bashing-om> planecool: -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga | pastebinit <- .
[01:16] <planecool> it sasu i should do apt-get i have no pastebinit
[01:16] <daftykins> yeah so run it to install it
[01:17] <planecool> there i install pastbinit
[01:17] <planecool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7160178/
[01:18] <Bashing-om> planecool: OK, we install it .. -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit <- .
[01:19] <planecool> Bashing-om:  i did install
[01:19] <Bashing-om> planecool: looking at /7160178/. brb .
[01:19] <planecool> theres the pastebin link
[01:19] <brooks111> daftykins: thanks so much works like a charm
[01:20] <daftykins> brooks111: :D my pleasure
[01:21] <brooks111> daftykins: now i get to install all my drivers and stuff what an exciting night, take it easy
[01:21] <daftykins> :D
[01:21] <daftykins> enjoy o/
[01:22] <Bashing-om> planecool: "Wow that is a really old card. It looks like ATI has placed it into legacy support " ->http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2139906 .
[01:25] <Bashing-om> pl "The only graphics driver that is available for your card is the one that comes built into Ubuntu, you are already using it." !!
[01:25] <planecool> bashimg om...
[01:25] <planecool> really?
[01:25] <planecool> welll i think not
[01:25] <planecool> cuase it was working fine
[01:25] <planecool> and so was minecraft
[01:26] <planecool> and now after that log i showed u
[01:26] <planecool> minecraft no woek
[01:26] <Bashing-om> planecool: Then do the same I did, take the word of very experienced people and accept that the only driver for that card is the open source driver.
[01:27] <daftykins> Bashing-om: i think he's broken that one, is the point of his current issue
[01:27] <Geo> Hi, I'm not sure if anyone here can help or not...
[01:27] <Geo> I have scriptA calling scriptB, which executes a git fetch. The ssh key used prompts for a password, but that prompt is not being displayed to the user running scriptA. How do I pass that through the child (script B), to the parent (script A, and the user) ?
[01:27] <planecool> i agreee that only driver is open source driver
[01:27] <planecool> but i think i messed up despeecides
[01:27] <planecool> or opengl entry point
[01:27] <planecool> or something
[01:27] <planecool> something is screwed up now
[01:28] <daftykins> lol opengl entry point
[01:28] <Geo> I'm pretty sure this is some simple redirect thing... but not sure why its not being passed. I thought all that was properly inherited when you run bash via a script
[01:28] <Bashing-om> planecool: sounds like what we got to do is remove all those attempts to install a fglrx friver, and get ya back up on open source.
[01:28] <planecool> yes i agree
[01:28] <daftykins> and with that high note it's bed for me
[01:28] <planecool> i don;t know how though
[01:29] <RFleming> nighty night daftykins  :)
[01:30] <RFleming> have pleasant dreams of fglrx :)
[01:30] <daftykins> and how i can install it blindfolded despite not owning any AMD hardware <3
[01:30] <daftykins> ty sir
[01:32] <Bashing-om> planecool: Let's start with what "might be installed" what returns from -> sudo find / -name fglrx-uninstall.sh <- . // 1 small step at a time to clean up the system.
[01:34] <planecool> nope
[01:34] <planecool> nothing there
[01:34] <ekodauhm> hi, any people can help me for this error plz ?? > [Thu Mar 27 01:26:29.888350 2014] [:crit] [pid 3675] (2)No such file or directory: AH00141: Could not initialize random number generator
[01:34] <Bashing-om> daftykins: By the way, I am much relieved to have peer review ! .. thanks heaps for watching over my shoulder.
[01:34] <Geo> I have scriptA calling scriptB, which executes a git fetch. The ssh key used prompts for a password, but that prompt is not being displayed to the user running scriptA. How do I pass that through the child (script B), to the parent (script A, and the user) ?
[01:36] <daftykins> Bashing-om: :D hope i didn't tread on your toes
[01:37] <RFleming> daftykins, you still here?
[01:37] <RFleming> delaying the inevitable nightmares?
[01:37] <ekodauhm> no people can help me plz ?
[01:38] <teward|pc> ekodauhm: have some patience, it takes a while before you can get a response. (more than 3 minutes)
[01:38] <xangua> s/minutes/hours
[01:39] <RFleming> ekodauhm, what version of Apache?
[01:39] <RFleming> wat version of Ubuntu
[01:39] <nrdb> on my main login 'dash' isn't showing any application icons at all.  I have reinstalled "unity-place-applications" and "unity-place-files" to no effect :-( .... what can I do?
[01:39] <ekodauhm> RFleming: apache2 ubuntu 14beta1
[01:40] <RFleming> ekodauhm, Google Says: http://www.apachelounge.com/viewtopic.php?t=5531&view=next
[01:41] <kostkon> ekodauhm, #ubuntu+1 is the channel for 14.05
[01:41] <kostkon> 14.04*
[01:41] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Not in the least ! after a bit of lurking in this channel, I have a great deal of respect for you and your abilities .
[01:41] <RFleming> ekodauhm, also, try #httpd
[01:41] <lovely> I have a question for xrandr users
[01:41] <ekodauhm> ok thank you
[01:42] <RFleming> they'll help you after telling you how wrong you are to use a debian based system :)
[01:43] <ekodauhm> i go play a battle on left 4 dead 2 with my ubuntu pc for one hour :D good feed bye
[01:43] <Bashing-om> planecool: That "find" command still running ? Takes a bit of time to search the whole file system, just wondering if you are still hangin' in here,
[01:43] <ekodauhm> *feel
[01:45] <lovely> where is the pastebin?
[01:45] <Beldar> !pastebin
[01:46] <tjbenator> I'm getting "error: cannot read from `/dev/sda'." while trying to upgrade my system. It is trying to upgrade it's kernel I believe... Problem is that Ubuntu isn't installed on /dev/sda
[01:47] <lovely> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7160300/
[01:48] <Bashing-om> tjbenator: Maybe, what pops to mins is that grub is trying to read what OS is installed then on the sda drive (??).
[01:49] <hornedCapybara> can someone help me with a bluescreen?
[01:49] <tjbenator> No OS is installed on that drive
[01:49] <Bashing-om> *mind/mins
[01:49] <hornedCapybara> can someone help me with a bluescreen?
 Do you have another device plugged into a usb port?
[01:50] <Beldar> !details | hornedCapybara
 what caused it?
[01:50] <Bashing-om> tjbenator: Maybe then, grub wants to install to sda ) by default ) ??
[01:50] <tjbenator> Grub is already installed....
[01:52] <Bashing-om> tjbenator: Let's see what the system thinks of the hard drives, -> sudo fisk -lu | pastbinit <- .
[01:53] <lovely> basically.. i bought a vga splitter and it doesnt detect my monitor correctly so i set it up with xrandr and it worked. the only thing is my display isnt centered.
[01:53] <E88> Is there some kind of widget I can get where it places notes / lists on my desktop?
[01:53] <cparke> P;/"{"/.
[01:53] <E88> Like a widget / gadget program with stickie notes
[01:54] <tootights> Hello
[01:54] <kostkon> lovely, already tried pressing the auto(setup) button of your monitor?
[01:54] <tootights> Is there specific channel for 14.04 Raring?
[01:54] <tjbenator> Can't use pastebinit
[01:54] <tjbenator> I don't have it installed
[01:55] <Beldar> tootights, #ubuntu+1
[01:55] <tootights> tyt
[01:55] <rysh> tootights: 14.04 is trusty, not raring
[01:55] <tootights> yes thats what I mean sorry
[01:55] <tootights> 14.04 anyway
[01:55] <Bashing-om> tjbenator: as the system advises then -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit <-.
[01:55] <rysh> like what Beldar said
[01:55] <tjbenator> Can't
[01:56] <tjbenator> Failed installations are preventing me from installing
[01:57] <tjbenator> Copy pasted: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7160338/
[01:57] <Bashing-om> tjbenator: Houston, we have a problem -> fly blind and by the seat of out pants.// lemme think see if I can come up with another means to find out what is going on.
[01:58] <tjbenator> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7160338/
[02:00] <witheld> I just did a brand new install from mini.iso, and aptitude isn't working. It's complaining there's conflicts, and looking at the list, it wants to install both the 64bit version and the 32 bit version
[02:00] <witheld> anyone know why?
[02:00] <Bashing-om> tjbenator: looking at /7160338 ...
[02:00] <tjbenator> Bashing-om: Another paste http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7160352/
[02:01] <tjbenator> sda & sdb are data drives. No operating systems
[02:01] <RFleming> Bashing-om, you save the day yet?
[02:02] <Bashing-om> tjbenator: "/dev/sda1            2048    80291839    40144896   83  Linux" are you setting up raid/LVM ? linux installed on 4 drives ?
[02:02] <tjbenator> No, there are 3 physical drives
[02:03] <tjbenator> One of which is the where Ubuntu was installed
[02:03] <tootights> I have booted to my 14.04 dvd. The purple screen displays with the familiar ubuntu loading indicator.  Any ideas?
[02:03] <Bashing-om> tjbenator: looking at /7160352/
[02:03] <tjbenator> the other two where installed afterwards
[02:03] <xangua> !14.04 | tootights
[02:03] <tjbenator> as data drives
[02:03] <lovely_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7160368/
[02:04] <lovely_> xrandr trouble
[02:04] <tootights> ubottu: Ok, I've tried there but no response. Thanks.
[02:05] <RFleming> Bazinga!
[02:05] <RFleming> ubottu, bot snack
[02:06] <RFleming> !botsnack
[02:06] <RFleming> there we go
[02:06] <RFleming> good bot ubottu
[02:06] <Bashing-om> tjbenator: still looks to me like grub is looking for boot code on sda // has the upgrade process completed otherwise ? at this time .
[02:06] <tjbenator> Nope
[02:07] <tjbenator> well maybe
[02:07] <tjbenator> It threw that error 4 times
[02:07] <tjbenator> now it says "Generating grub.cfg"
[02:08] <tjbenator> Planning on doing a complete over haul of this machine once Ubuntu 14.04 is released
[02:08] <Bashing-om> tjbenator: OK, where are you in that upgrade process, is the install wizard awaiting input and direction ?
[02:09] <tjbenator> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7160388/
[02:09] <Bashing-om> tjbenator: OK, generating grub .. let's let it run, see what there is to clean up ( I hope I hope ) .
[02:10] <Bashing-om> tjbenator: looking at m/7160388/
[02:13] <Bashing-om> tjbenator: "/7160388/" still stuck with grub trying to acess boot code on sda ??
[02:14] <Bashing-om> access
[02:16] <tjbenator> That drive is bad.. It is an old IDE 40GB drive.. Shouldn't be anything on it related to grub. That drive was installed AFTER the installation of Ubuntu
[02:20] <Bashing-om> tjbenator: try'n to come up with something , How far along in the upgrade process is the upgrade wizard ? any idea where it is hung up at ?
[02:21] <tjbenator> still at the same place
[02:22] <Bashing-om> tjbenator: Is the wizard presenting you with any options at this time ?
[02:23] <tjbenator> No
[02:25]  * tjbenator hides join/part messages in this channel
[02:25] <Wulframn> Yeah, they're irritating here.
[02:26] <witheld> I'd rather my client have a hide joins/parts of users who haven't talked X amount of time
[02:26] <Bashing-om> tjbenator: I am stuck, In my limited ability, I presently do not know what to advise, not a good thing NOT to complete the upgrade. I Do not know how to tell the wizard to skip and proceed !
[02:27] <witheld> would have the desired effect while not letting you talk to people who left
[02:27] <Wulframn> witheld: tab key does that
[02:28] <Wulframn> Bashing-om: tjbenator: how long has the process been hanging?
[02:28] <tjbenator> Since I asked the original question
[02:28] <Bruno_Cavalcanti> bye everybody
[02:29] <Bashing-om> Wulframn: Some time now, Maybe in some kind of loop ??
[02:29] <tjbenator> so maybe 20 minutes
[02:30] <Wulframn> 20 minutes? During a standard update?
[02:30] <tjbenator> So, I originally tried to remove old kernals
[02:30] <tjbenator> because /boot was full
[02:30] <tjbenator> Which I believe was successful
[02:31] <tjbenator> I then did a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[02:31] <c2tarun> anyone installed Gnome 3.12 on ubuntu 12.04? If yes, please tell me how to do it!!
[02:31] <Wulframn> The enter key isn't your spacebar. Just minimize the window and go on about your business. Twenty minutes isn't a real concern.
[02:32] <Wulframn> (Not trying to be a jerk, I'm tired and don't want you to get kicked for flooding)
[02:33] <Bashing-om> tjbenator: I was unser the impression that you were doing an version upgrade ! say to 13.10, if this is a standard system update, we can terminate and see what the problem is (??).
[02:33] <tjbenator> Sorry, bad habbit I picked up from an online friend
[02:33] <tjbenator> no no, just updating packages
[02:33] <Wulframn> No need to apologize. Just don't want you to get the boot. :-)
[02:34] <Dan72> Hello everyone, I was attempting a release upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 and the machine shutdown mid upgrade. Now it will only boot to the recovery console. I've tried doing the boot-recovery CD and it says that it was successful, but it goes right to the recovery console again when I reboot. I get this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7160354/ any ideas what I should do next?
[02:34] <Wulframn> tjbenator: you can just terminate the process. I wouldn't, I would minimize the terminal window and go on about my business. If it's still stuck after a couple of hours I'd terminate it.
[02:35] <tjbenator> Alright, I'm not an a rush anyways :P This is on another computer anyways
[02:35] <tjbenator> Was going to install nginx on it, but I guess I will continue testing in a vm :3
[02:35] <Wulframn> Sometimes it just hangs for whatever reason.
[02:36] <Wulframn> Depending on the package, if nothing happens after an hour I'd be worried then.
[02:36] <Bashing-om> tjbenator: OK, I feel better. How did you remove those old kernels ? ( I hope with apt-get remove or dpkg ??).
[02:37] <Wulframn> rm -rf /boot/*
[02:37] <tjbenator> I found a bash command online that would remove all kernals via apt-get that weren't currently in use
[02:37] <Wulframn> Oh lawd, what bash command was that?
[02:38] <Wulframn> Hopefully not the one I posted in jest
[02:38] <Bashing-om> Wulframn: That scared me, and I am a Marine, I ain't scared of nothing !
[02:39] <Wulframn> The unholy rm -rf command, run with wildcards, strikes terror into the heart of every being.
[02:39] <tjbenator> http://askubuntu.com/questions/334976/safe-to-remove-old-kernels-after-installing-latest-mainline
[02:40] <Bashing-om> tjbenator: Wulframn I be look'n at the link.
[02:40] <tjbenator> Wulframn: I've been using linux for a while. I know better then that XD
[02:40] <Dan72> Wulframn: that is pretty good, lol. I'll have to use that saying
[02:40] <linuxist> Wulframn: my heart still skips a beat every time I type it
[02:40] <tjbenator> rm -rf --no-perserve-root /
[02:40] <linuxist> http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/75785615121/rm-rf-filename
[02:40] <somsip> !danger (please stop with this now)
[02:41] <somsip> !danger | tjbenator (please stop with this now)
[02:41] <tjbenator> lol
[02:41] <tjbenator> I think I upset ubottu
[02:41] <linuxist> he's a bit tetchy
[02:42] <tjbenator> sudo !!
[02:42] <somsip> tjbenator: I triggered it. I was hoping the ops would step in and stop this, but they didn't. That's my last word on the matter
[02:42] <Wulframn> The command I posted is broken and wouldn't work. In general if you're going to joke about that command then it's best to post it in such a form. Don't post it in a form that would actually work unless you want people to yell at you.
[02:42] <BlueSamurai> hello all.  Would someone tell me why when I go to Software & Updates, I can install all and any updates.. (It gives me the typical everything is up to date- "but there is a new version of ubuntu available") So I clicked the option to upgrade it ask for my password, I enter it, click okay, and the dialog box goes away.  Then nothing happens. Updates work, upgrade does nothing.
[02:43] <BlueSamurai> I've tried it several times, checked the repositories and rebooted
[02:43] <Wulframn> Or, better yet, don't joke about it at all. Newbies be crazy
[02:43] <BlueSamurai> So any other ideas?
[02:43] <BlueSamurai> thanks
[02:43] <somsip> Wulframn: exactly.
[02:45] <Wulframn> Though it can teach a valuable lesson about keeping backups and not running commands that you don't understand... anyway
[02:45] <Wulframn> BlueSamurai, have you tried from the terminal?
[02:46] <tjbenator> Speaking of backups, anyone used rsnapshot?
[02:46] <tjbenator> It is amazing
[02:46] <Bashing-om> tjbenator: This is good "sudo apt-get purge linux-image-x.x.x.x-generic." I hope this is the one you ran, That other, man too deep for me to tell what might have happened !
[02:47] <Wulframn> I'm too damn lazy for anything more than just running cp to my external hard drive.
[02:47] <tjbenator> rsnapshot is a breeze to setup
[02:47] <Wulframn> I know I should automate some process like a boss. Just don't care enough to do it.
[02:47] <tjbenator> Takes less then a few minutes
[02:48] <Dan72> I was attempting a release upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 and the machine shutdown mid upgrade. Now it will only boot to the recovery console. I've tried doing the boot-recovery CD and it says that it was successful, but it goes right to the recovery console again when I reboot. I get this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7160354/ any ideas what I should do next? I also just did the boot repair with repair filesystem checked. That paste is
[02:48] <KindOne> How can I check the version number of a .deb package in the repository?
[02:48] <Dan72> I am able to mount /dev/sda1 and can see all of my data no problem
[02:48] <Dan72> within the boot-recovery cd
[02:48] <somsip> KindOne: !info {package} {release}, eg: !info php5 precise
[02:49] <Wulframn> Dan72: do you have your stuff backed up?
[02:49] <KindOne> !info php5 precise
[02:49] <kostkon> Dan72, continue with the upgrade?  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:49] <Dan72> wulframn: yes, and I think I could probably make another backup because I can mount it within the boot-rescue cd
[02:50] <Dan72> kostkon: Can I run that from the boot-rescue cd? Right now the server boots directly to the recovery console
[02:50] <Wulframn> Dan72: then attempt another dist-upgrade. If that fails just reinstall the latest version
[02:50] <KindOne> !info btsync Saucy
[02:50] <cupout> Hey Dan72
[02:50] <kostkon> Dan72, no idea abou that
[02:51] <Wulframn> Dan72: yes you can, just mount and chroot
[02:51] <KindOne> yeah... that does not work for 3rd party stuff..
[02:51] <kostkon> Dan72, im guessing no
[02:51] <kostkon> Dan72, or what Wulframn said
[02:51] <somsip> KindOne: it works for official packages. 3rd party stuff may not have been adopted as official yet.
[02:51] <KindOne> Im looking for the real command to enter into a shell, not some silly IRC command
[02:52] <Dan72> wulframn: so once sda1 is mounting and chrooted within the boot-rescue cd I can run the dist-upgrade command?
[02:52] <Wulframn> Yep
[02:52] <Dan72> wulframn: thanks, I'll try that now
[02:52] <cupout> Hey!
[02:52] <Wulframn> Well, hang on, I'm not sure what all ubuntu requires to be mounted
[02:53] <Wulframn> cupout: if you have something to say you can say it here and not in pm
[02:54] <kostkon> Wulframn, spammer
[02:54] <cupout> Hey Wulframn !
[02:54] <josef_> i made my ubuntu unbootable writing in /etc/X11/default-display-manager false, now it stops booting saned disabled
[02:54] <Dan72> wulframn: I have sda1 mounted automatically by the boot-rescue cd at /mnt/boot-sav
[02:54] <Wulframn> kostkon: ;-)
[02:54] <josef_> can i fix this whithout making a new installation?
[02:55] <Bashing-om> Dan72: -> Wulframn :: From the recovery mose, if one selects "root" is the operating system then mounted read/write ( or do we have to go through "with networking ").
[02:56] <Wulframn> Dan72: check fstab and mount any other critical file systems. Or does ubuntu keep everything in /? (Ie, no /usr, /var, /tmp separate)
[02:56] <Dan72> wulframn: everything is in / there are /usr /var etc but they are on the same partition
[02:56] <Dan72> basing-om: i'm not sure I understand what you mean?
[02:57] <Wulframn> Alright, then you're golden. Just make sure that is mounted and you're chrooted and run the command. Done
[02:57] <mygut> Hey Wulframn !
[02:58] <Bashing-om> Dan72: What I have in mind rather than chrooting into the install, is to mount that install read/write from the recovery console, and from there do the cleanup and complete the upgrade.
[02:58] <mygut> It's only binary.
[02:58] <Dan72> wulframn & bashing-om: I might have to do that bashing-om, the boot-rescue cd doesn't like my chroot /mnt/boot-sav command
[02:59] <mygut> Magnetic information stored as on off code.
[02:59] <mygut> Hey Dan72
[03:00] <Wulframn> Dan72: what did it say?
[03:00] <Dan72> chroot not found
[03:00] <mygut> It's not rocket science Wulframn
[03:00] <Dan72> I thought that was a base command part of linux
[03:01] <Dan72> wulframn: I tried installing it by apt-get install chroot but it said no package named chroot found
[03:01] <mygut> High school math will get you advance degree in programing Dan72
[03:01] <Scott_> hey. can anyone help me? I have a big issue
[03:02] <mygut> Monkey bait
[03:02] <Dan72> bashing-om: any idea how to mount within the recovery console? the recovery console is new to me. I tried creating a mount point and it won't let me due to read only file system.
[03:02] <Wulframn> chroot not found?  I can use the terminal and open programs through there but I really want things working properly
[03:03] <Dan72> wulframn: the one detailed here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[03:03] <josef_> how to boot in singel user from yaboot?
[03:03] <Guest45218> is there a way to recover my root directory?
[03:04] <Dan72> basing-om: that worked! it is mounted correctly. I have no idea how to do the cleanup however. can I just run do-release-upgrade?
[03:05] <Wulframn> Dan72: No, throw that in the trash. Better yet, throw that in the incinerator because some homeless guy may dig that out of the trash and end up here with the same issue. Use system rescue cd.
[03:05] <Bashing-om> Guest45218: From what I have observed for some time, if you rm'd "root' the only recourse is (RE-)install.
[03:05] <Dan72> wulframn: lol
[03:05] <Guest45218> Is there any way that I can keep everything?
[03:06] <Guest45218> or do I have to reinstall all of my stuff again?
[03:06] <Wulframn> Guest45218: how did you accidentally damage your system? Which command did you run?
[03:08] <Guest45218> I was using a fake virus thing because i was bored and some parts obviously didn't work and ended up issuing an actual command The script: http://pastebin.com/n1zp9jMK
[03:08] <Guest45218> I don't know which part actually deleted the systems
[03:08] <Dan72> bashing-om: is this something like dpkg --configure -a? after that re-run the upgrade?
[03:08] <Guest45218> or the root directory
[03:09] <Guest45218> is that what I should do?
[03:09] <Guest45218> or is that for someone else?
[03:09] <Wulframn> Guest45218: why would you play with something if you didn't understand how it worked? And why wouldn't you play with that something in virtual box?
[03:09] <tjbenator> ^^^
[03:10] <Guest45218> I don't know. I'm an idiot.
[03:10] <Bashing-om> Dan72: Try: sudo apt-get autoclean , sudo apt-get autoremove , sudo apt-get clean , sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , sudo apt-get -f install , sudo dpkg --configure -a ...
[03:10] <tux_> i wonder if that script had to do something with manipulating the root folder
[03:10] <Guest45218> i think it did
[03:10] <Wulframn> Hopefully you've learned from this mistake
[03:11] <Guest45218> i did
[03:11] <Wulframn> It clearly deletes system critical folders
[03:11] <tux_> hey wulfman i destroyrd my password script before but that was years ago
[03:12] <tux_> had to reinstall
[03:12] <Dan72> wulframn & basing-om: it booted! thank you both very much for your help.  I'm trying to create strong users who think before they type and keep backups
[03:13] <Wulframn> Dan72: congrats
[03:13] <Bashing-om> Dan72: Great, remember to pass it on ! Ubuntu, 1 for all and all for one !
[03:14] <Wulframn> Guest45218: you need to completely reinstall.  Try: http://explainshell.com/
[03:14] <Guest45218> i'm still trying that other advice
[03:14] <Wulframn> Goodnight all
[03:14] <Bashing-om> Wulframn: Nighty night.. see ya .
[03:15] <josef_> hm, why does Linux 1 gives me a rootconsole and Linux single not from yaboot?
[03:17] <Guest45218> I have an idea that might work
[03:17] <josef_> how to configure ubuntu not to boot an x-server only a console ?
[03:17] <Guest45218> would it be possible to find where the root is stored on the livecd and copy it to my computer?
[03:18] <cfhowlett> Guest45218, as opposed to doing a proper installation?
[03:18] <Guest45218> yeah
[03:18] <tjbenator> It would be simpler to reinstall
[03:19] <Guest45218> I have a lot of stuff and I would really hate to lose it all
[03:19] <cfhowlett> Guest45218, "stuff" = data?
[03:19] <Guest45218> yes
[03:19] <tjbenator> Ouch
[03:19] <cfhowlett> Guest45218, no need to reinstall.   make a dedicated /home will save your data
[03:19] <cfhowlett> !home
[03:20] <Guest45218> Will that move my documents and videos?
[03:20] <tjbenator> If your previous actions didn't delete everything from your home folder and you had your data in your home folder
[03:21] <tjbenator> then yes
[03:21] <tjbenator> Otherwise It won't be fun to recover files
[03:22] <Guest45218> Should this be difficult for someone who isn't the best with linux?
[03:22] <Guest45218> like me
[03:22] <tjbenator> On a live cd you should be able to mount you linux install and retrieve files
[03:23] <Bashing-om> josef_: One can edit /etc/default/grub to have the system boot to the text terminal (TTY!) .. that what you have inmind ?
[03:23] <Guest45218> what do you mean by that?
[03:23] <Guest45218> how would i do that exactly/
[03:23] <Guest45218> how would i do that exactly?
[03:24] <cfhowlett> Guest45218, if you READ the link I send you - complete details are within
[03:24] <Guest45218> okay
[03:24] <Guest45218> does it explain how to check the size of my home directory?
[03:25] <cfhowlett> Guest45218, see previous response
[03:25] <tjbenator> cfhowlett: How does that help him recover data from his old install?
[03:25] <cfhowlett> tjbenator, I understood he was trying to save current /home folders - not recover.   If I was wro
[03:25] <cfhowlett> wrong, please disregard my suggestions
[03:26] <Guest45218> i want to save it
[03:27] <Guest45218> It links me to how to create partitions but I don't know how big I should make it
[03:27] <josef_> bashing-om: yes I have in mind to boot into a text terminal and if I wants it start x-server with startx but I don't use grub insted I have yaboot
[03:27] <cfhowlett> Guest45218, run a terminal :    df
[03:28] <Bashing-om> Guest45218: cfhowlett :: To my mind that is an excellent suggestion. Well worth trying !, I would think that after the new "/Home" is made, one would have to delete the old "/Home" and in the new install choose not to format /home ??
[03:29] <cfhowlett> Guest45218, the largest partition will be your installed OS plus your data.  Given that a new install of Ubuntu runs  about 8 gigs, set 12 gigs aside for the OS and put the remainder as our /home
[03:29] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, exactomundo!
[03:30] <Guest45218> would home be the media drive?
[03:30] <cfhowlett> Guest45218, /dev/sda###
[03:31] <cfhowlett> Guest45218, a bit more human readable if you run df -h in a terminal
[03:31] <Bashing-om> josef_: In /etc/default/grub this line - GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" - replace quite splash with the term text.
[03:32] <tjbenator> Guest45218 is trying to recover data after he ran a script which has done ran rm on his /
[03:32] <ChrisuLM> anybody familiar with raspberry pi's?
[03:32] <red_> tell me any download manager in ubuntu and cmd for install it
[03:33] <cfhowlett> red_, your installed ubuntu already has a download manager
[03:33] <xangua> !infp gwget | red_
[03:33] <red_> cfhowlett:like idm in windows
[03:33] <cfhowlett> red_, do you have ubuntu installed?
[03:33] <red_> cfhowlett:yes
[03:34] <cfhowlett> red_, ubuntu software center
[03:34] <red_> cfhowlett:next
[03:34] <cfhowlett> red_, synaptic package manager
[03:35] <Bashing-om> josef_: See my last .. when the edit is completed, one must run the terminal coomand -> sudo update-grub <- for the change to take effect !
[03:35] <Guest45218> I am so confused
[03:35] <linuxist> ChrisuLM: yeah I've played with them before
[03:35] <Guest45218> I'm trying to read that article but it's really difficult to understand
[03:36] <Guest45218> I'm worried that I'm gonna mess up my home partition
[03:36] <red_> cfhowlett:I am installing it.
[03:36] <red_> cfhowlett:complete
[03:36] <cfhowlett> red_, enjoy
[03:36] <josef_> hm, o.k thx but I don't have grub as bootmanager I have yaboot but I think it is similar
[03:37] <red_> cfhowlett: thx                 :)
[03:37] <Bashing-om> josef_: oopps, got to caried away, yeah I bet yaboot is similar.
[03:38] <cfhowlett> Guest45218, a reasonable concern.  follow the steps.  carefully.
[03:39] <UKn0Me> Morning all
[03:40] <Guest45218> I'll be right back
[03:40] <Guest45218> Oh yeah, I forgot to ask
[03:40] <Guest45218> What do I do after I get the home stuff on the new partition?
[03:41] <Guest45218> And after I reinstall?
[03:41] <red_> cfhowlett: there are lots of upgrade which I ll upgrade for download manager
[03:42] <cfhowlett> red_, can I ask w
[03:42] <cfhowlett> Man on a Mission
[03:42] <cfhowlett> by laidnyc
[03:42] <cfhowlett> *Alright, feminists, playtime is over for now.  This blog will now return to its regularly scheduled programming.*
[03:42] <cfhowlett> The most attractive thing to women is a man on a mission.
[03:42] <cfhowlett> How does a man act when he’s on a mission?
[03:42] <unopaste`> cfhowlett you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[03:42] <cfhowlett> A man on a mission cares not for any girl’s reaction to him.  He cares for his mission.  Sure, he may want sexual release, but he feels no approach anxiety.  To a man focused on a higher mission, approaching girls is like playing with little kids in a sandbox: cute, but ultimately meaningless.
[03:42] <cfhowlett> A man on a mission naturally treats women with the aloof alpha attitude and dominant frame that PUAs try to imitate.  Picture a guy spending all day striving, sweating and bleeding for a mission, going home with his struggle still on his mind.    He does not have months to spend, he does not have time to buy seven dinners before a chance at sex.      He puts his mission on a pedestal, not his girl.
[03:42] <cfhowlett> A man on a mission is impossible to friendzone.  He simply doesn’t have time to listen to a girl’s emotional outpourings.
[03:42] <cfhowlett> A man on a mission treats girls with abundance.  There are many girls, but only one mission.
[03:42] <cfhowlett> A man on a mission has ambition, passion and drive.  Anybody who spends time with him can sense this.
[03:42] <cfhowlett> A man on a mission is never at a loss for words.  He has stories.  I was (working on my mission) when…., My friend ______(who I know from my mission) and I……,
[03:42] <Bashing-om> Guest45218: If I may, then if you follow instructions, nothing, you are setting pretty with the new /Home (symlinked !).
[03:42] <cfhowlett> A man on a mission has boundaries.  He will not let a girl take up too much of his time or do anything that will jeopardize his mission.
[03:42] <cfhowlett> A man on a mission chooses a wife or long term girlfriend carefully.  She must complement him and make his home life easier, as he is out living his mission.
[03:42] <cfhowlett> A man on a mission does not check his phone everyhat your final goal is
[03:42] <kostkon> cfhowlett, dude what happened
[03:43] <red_> cfhowlett: I need a simple download manager like internet download manager
[03:43] <cfhowlett> dang!  sorry everyone!
[03:43]  * cfhowlett smites himself
[03:43] <Guest45218> Bashing-om: what does symlinked mean?
[03:44] <cfhowlett> kostkon, fat finger tourettes syndrome . my most sincere apologies
[03:44] <kostkon> cfhowlett, no problemo, no need to apologise for that
[03:45] <red_> tell me any download manager in ubuntu.
[03:45] <Bashing-om> Guest45218: That I expect is explained in the link. where the new /Home is a symbolic link from the system's location of /home. It workie great last long time,
[03:45] <cfhowlett> red_, what exactly are you trying to accomplish???
[03:45] <red_> cfhowlett: I need a simple download manager like internet download manager
[03:46] <red_> but in linux
[03:46] <red_> any download manager for ubuntu
[03:46] <BlueSamurai> .
[03:46] <cfhowlett> !patience|red_,
[03:47] <kostkon> red_, uget, flareget, etc
[03:47] <red_> kostkon:cmd
[03:47] <kostkon> red_, use the software centre or synaptic
[03:48] <red_> I got thank u all.
[03:51] <Distraught> guys i ve got a server with ubuntu right? I could see all  images just right before 20 minutes
[03:52] <Distraught> and now i cant
[03:52] <Distraught> the ww folder is in /var/www
[04:02] <josef_> hm what hapens ifconfig don't gives me eth0 only lo how to fix this?
[04:02] <josef_> pon does not connect to the internet
[04:02] <pvl1> josef_: add eth0
[04:02] <pvl1> sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[04:03] <pvl1> or just... add it to /etc/network/interfaces
[04:06] <josef_> hm, o.k now it works but how is it possible to disappers ....
[04:07] <pvl1> josef_: i doubt that it just dissapears. see if its in the file i earlier posted
[04:12] <josef_> hm, there is auto eth0
[04:12] <sakang> where does the file manager gets the data to populate the 'places'?  thanks
[04:12] <josef_> and pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up
[04:14] <pvl1> josef_: so its theres. something mustve brought it down. difficult to say what. check your logs
[04:14] <pvl1> sakang: do you mean like the bookmarks? theres a file either somewhere in ~/.config/ or some other ~/.dir
[04:16] <sakang> pvl1: is it? bookmarks I can add, but these are usually partitions, same as you would get from  'computer'
[04:17] <sakang> or devices
[04:18] <pvl1> i know, but it has to store the others somewhere
[04:18] <pvl1> and thats usually in the .dirs of your home dir
[04:18] <sakang> pvl1: theyt show up in the side bar/pane/panel
[04:21] <freespirit-girl> How can i install full python with scrapy on Ubuntu... Using command prompt
[04:21] <pvl1> sakang: theres a chance that they are hard coded into the app
[04:22] <pvl1> freespirit-girl: *terminal and idk what scrappy is.. but you can install python with sudo apt-get install python
[04:22] <pvl1> oh and i guess scrapy would just be sudo apt-get install scrapy
[04:22] <sakang> pvl1: doubt it.  how could you hardcode labels of my partitions?
[04:22] <freespirit-girl> ok
[04:23] <pvl1> freespirit-girl: http://doc.scrapy.org/en/latest/intro/install.html
[04:24] <freespirit-girl> Unable to locate package scrapy
[04:24] <pvl1> sakang: i meant the logic to represent that. could just read /dev/sda devices... or /media mounts
[04:24] <pvl1> freespirit-girl: http://doc.scrapy.org/en/latest/topics/ubuntu.html#topics-ubuntu
[04:25] <kostkon> !find scrapy
[04:25] <pvl1> kostkon: the site says that that package is outdated often
[04:25] <kostkon> pvl1, ok then..
[04:25] <pvl1> just sayin
[04:26] <pvl1> anywho, i need sleep
[04:26] <pvl1> later yall
[04:27] <freespirit-girl> i think i got it
[04:28] <jj995> what is an easy way to get rough file system speed?  I just want to roughly log if it is a network file system (slow), spinning local disk (avg), or local SSD (fast)
[04:32] <jj995> I guess determining whether a filesystem is networked, local ssd, or local spinning disk is non-trivial or impossible
[04:32] <jj995> *determining via a command line output
[04:35] <subb1> hello folks
[04:36] <cfhowlett> greetings.  what's your ubuntu issue, subb1?
[04:36] <subb1> I've been googling all way but of no use. I'm faced with this error: "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." while trying to install Skype. Running "sudo aptitude install skype" lists a lot of conflicts also. How would I go about solving this mess?
[04:38] <subb1> This is the output of "aptitude install skype" : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7160824/
[04:38] <subb1> greetings cfhowlett !
[04:40] <subb1> I also faced this while trying to install another package earlier, but don't remember it now.
[04:40] <cfhowlett> subb1, suggestion   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade         this will update your filesystem database and then bring all current packages to the latest available package in repos
[04:40] <us^0gb> Hmm. So it want's to leave Skype at it's current (uninstalled) version. Odd.
[04:42] <subb1> cfhowlett,  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, shows that all packages are up-to-date.
[04:43] <cfhowlett> subb1, good.  also run sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean
[04:43] <cfhowlett> clean
[04:43] <cfhowlett> clean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files. It removes everything but the lock file from
[04:43] <cfhowlett> /var/cache/apt/archives/ and /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/. When APT is used as a dselect(1) method, clean is run
[04:43] <cfhowlett> automatically. Those who do not use dselect will likely want to run apt-get clean from time to time to free up disk space.
[04:44] <subb1> cfhowlett, that too, removes nothing. No changes happen.
[04:44] <subb1> I'm on ubuntu 13.10.
[04:44] <cfhowlett> subb1, desktop?
[04:45] <subb1> yepp
[04:45] <arrith> anyone use plex? good/bad?
[04:45] <Odd-rationale> subb1: Can you check to make sure your sources are enabled (main, universe, multiverse, restricted). You should find your sources in "Software & Updates"
[04:46] <subb1> Odd-rationale, that's enabled. checked.
[04:47] <cfhowlett> subb1, reboot and attempt to reinstall skype
[04:47] <subb1> cfhowlett, I did that yesterday.
[04:48] <Odd-rationale> subb1: Have you run "sudo apt-get -f install"?
[04:49] <subb1> Odd-rationale, gives me this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7160862/
[04:50] <subb1> Odd-rationale, and "apt-get -f install skype-bin" gives this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7160863/
[04:50] <cfhowlett> subb1, seemsll to be skype related.  sudo apt-get purge skype*  (not installed, I know but try)
[04:51] <Odd-rationale> subb1: Which repository are you installing skype from?
[04:52] <subb1> cfhowlett, no changes after that.
[04:52] <subb1> Odd-rationale, http://ubuntu.pesat.net.id/archive
[04:53] <cfhowlett> subb1, ?WHAT?  get skype.com   download not a 3rd party source
[04:53] <subb1> Odd-rationale, I chose it from 'Select Best Server' of 'Software and Updates'..
[04:54] <subb1> cfhowlett, it's my ubuntu repo server.
[04:55] <Odd-rationale> subb1: Can you paste the output of "apt-cache show skype".
[04:55] <subb1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7160894/ << Odd-rationale
[04:58] <Odd-rationale> subb1: Give me a sec.
[04:59] <subb1> ok. thanks !
[05:02] <Odd-rationale> subb1: try this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7160909/
[05:03] <subb1> Odd-rationale,
[05:03] <subb1> Reading package lists... Done
[05:03] <subb1> Building dependency tree
[05:03] <subb1> Reading state information... Done
[05:03] <subb1> E: Unable to locate package libjson-c2
[05:03] <subb1> E: Unable to locate package libllvm3.3
[05:03] <subb1> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libllvm3.3'
[05:03] <subb1> --- is the output. :(
[05:04] <Odd-rationale> subb1: pastebin the whole output.
[05:04] <subb1> I don't know.. I might have messed up the version of stable packages on my system. :(
[05:05] <cfhowlett> subb1, seems like ...
[05:05] <subb1> Odd-rationale, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7160918/
[05:05] <Odd-rationale> subb1: That's OK (hopefully). We'll try to fix it.
[05:05] <subb1> cfhowlett, yes but I'm wondering how it allowed me to do that in the first place!
[05:06] <Odd-rationale> subb1: OK. So can you pastebin your entire /etc/apt/source.list file? Want to double check your sources.
[05:07] <subb1> here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/7160922/ << Odd-rationale
[05:07] <Odd-rationale> subb1: also pastebin: cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*list
[05:08] <subb1> Odd-rationale, none in **lists.d/
[05:09] <Odd-rationale> subb1: What does "apt-cache show libjson-c2" give you?
[05:10] <subb1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7160931/ << Odd-rationale
[05:12] <Odd-rationale> subb1: that's really strange that apt-cache finds it.
[05:12] <Odd-rationale> subb1: Can you install it individually? sudo apt-get install libjson-c2:i386
[05:13] <subb1> it says it's already the newer versin'
[05:13] <subb1> version
[05:13] <subb1> and it's installed Odd-rationale
[05:15] <Odd-rationale> subb1: Hmm. OK, my recommendation is to reset your sources.list file back to the original. Sometimes there's issues with mirrors syncing.
[05:16] <Odd-rationale> subb1: Here's my sources.list file. Also 13.10 system: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7160929/
[05:17] <Odd-rationale> subb1: Once you reverted your sources.list file, try apt-get update; apt-get -f install; apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:18] <subb1> Odd-rationale, I guess you're right mate. I switched sources back an forth to get good network download speed. I used 'select best server' too many times. I might have screwed things that way. :(
[05:19] <sennn_> hello
[05:22] <McGreevy> hi i have a question
[05:22] <McGreevy> if i download ubuntu, then put it on a flash drive
[05:23] <McGreevy> .......then i turn off my computer, with the flashdrive in i turn it back on
[05:23] <McGreevy> and then ubuntu boots up?
[05:23] <McGreevy> is that how it works
[05:23] <Odd-rationale> McGreevy: Basically, yes.
[05:24] <McGreevy> and i wont run into any problems with it? most likely?
[05:24] <Odd-rationale> McGreevy: But you need to make sure you copy it to the USB correct. And you need to make sure your computer supports booting from USB (most modern BIOS do).
[05:24] <McGreevy> how do i copy it correct
[05:25] <Odd-rationale> McGreevy: Are you currently on Windows?
[05:25] <McGreevy> yes windows 8
[05:25] <Odd-rationale> McGreevy: Follow the instructions here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[05:26] <McGreevy> thankyou
[05:26] <Odd-rationale> McGreevy: You will need a USB with at least 2GB
[05:32] <alejandrisho> Hola buenas como estan todos?
[05:32] <Odd-rationale> !es | alejandrisho
[05:32] <sennn_> please just tell me where is the location of the canonical's office in ShangHai?
[05:56] <subb1> Odd-rationale, that worked! :)
[05:56] <subb1> thanks! after changing the sources, I was able to dist-upgrade and then after a reboot, i'm able to install skype! :)
[05:57] <subb1> Odd-rationale, so it indeed was the issue of repo sources being out of sync !!
[05:58] <jesse__> Hello.  I am running Ubuntu 14.04.  Is there a way to move Window Controls to the right? Thanks!
[05:59] <subb1> thanks Odd-rationale :)
[06:00] <Odd-rationale> jesse__: According to AskUbuntu, the answer seems to be no: http://askubuntu.com/a/209574
[06:01] <jesse__> Odd-rationale: thanks
[06:11] <SceBuck> Hello
[06:28] <x86_128> hello, i installed Ubuntu (latest version, just downloaded) on a computer, and i've a problem
[06:30] <linuxist> x86_128: do go on
[06:31] <x86_128> The problem is:
[06:31] <x86_128> uhm
[06:31] <x86_128> nothing
[06:32] <x86_128> I don't have a problem. It's Good! :D I love Ubuntu, best OS ever.
[06:33] <linuxist> x86_128: you're preaching to the choir in here buddy :)
[06:33] <x86_128> lol
[06:34] <jesse__> Hello.  I'm running an early-release of 14.04.  It's my first time running a version of Ubuntu still in development.  My question is: When the final version of 14.04 is released, how do I update it to the final?
[06:35] <linuxist> jesse__: I'm just guessing here. But as long as you have the right settings in /etc/apt/sources.list etc... then beta vs. released version should just be a matter of "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade"
[06:36] <Beldar> !14.04|jesse__
[06:36] <somsip> !upgrade | jesse__
[06:37] <jesse__> linuxist: thanks
[06:37] <jesse__> somsip: thanks
[06:37] <Beldar> jesse__, Regular updates and upgrades get you there.
[06:37] <somsip> !final | jesse__ (this was what I meant)
[06:37] <jesse__> thanks everyone
[06:39] <mantracker> #kali-linux
[07:28] <Baddhist> Hello
[07:30] <Baddhist> I need help converting a MBR to a GPT Disk and im unfamiliar with ubuntu, Is there a place i can get some advice?
[07:47] <CryptoSiD> hi guys, when i restart apache2 it show me the code of the init.d/apache2 file
[07:48] <CryptoSiD> any idea how can i fix this?:)
[07:48] <CryptoSiD> apache2 start and reload fine but it show me the code
[07:52] <googcheng> hi, all! when i from 12.04.3 upgrade to 12.04.4  my background color become blue ,and ubuntu desktop crash . i have tried reinstall not work . how to do with it ?
[07:59] <jesse__> Hello.  Just installed Ubuntu 14.04.  I wanted to try out the Gnome3 desktop, so i installed the packages gnome-shell and ubuntu-gnome-desktop.  I'm satisfied with gnome, but after i installed those packages, it replaced the default ubuntu loading graphics (the graphics I see upon booting in and shutting down) with the Ubuntu Gnome graphics.  How can I change it back (though I would like to retain gnome 3) ?
[08:02] <Doctor_N1ck> no
[08:02] <Doctor_N1ck> consolas more like consolBLAHs
[08:02] <Ross> was using Utorrent to download movies b4 I joined Ubuntu, 3 days ago. What can I use to download movies now?
[08:02] <Doctor_N1ck> transmission
[08:02] <Doctor_N1ck> but we do not endorse copyright infringement
[08:03] <ax562> just for an estimate...how many hours after install of ubuntu 12.04LTS to get a close to 100% stable OS?
[08:04] <Doctor_N1ck> uhm
[08:04] <Doctor_N1ck> what?
[08:04] <Doctor_N1ck> depends on any number of factors
[08:05] <Doctor_N1ck> could be 0, could be 12
[08:05] <ax562> I'm just curious if i've done something wrong.
[08:06] <sennn> i believe something strange happened to me
[08:06] <ax562> I'm coming from 11.04 and my only real trouble was the nvidea drivers (they never really worked great though)
[08:06] <ax562> I'm getting random vlc closes
[08:06] <ax562> disapearing bacgrounds
[08:06] <ax562> dissapearing docky
[08:07] <ax562> slugish performance so went to xubuntu.
[08:07] <ax562> performance has been great just many mysterious bugs.
[08:11] <wheatthin> ax562, no sluggish performance, until you have a flash video playing, and then you open the dock
[08:11] <wheatthin> Dash Home*
[08:12] <Gr4cchus> can anyone direct me to an updated tutorial that explains sideloading apps onto android off ubuntu?
[08:12] <wheatthin> personally, I think compiz needs some ironing out :)
[08:13] <wheatthin> I don't think that's supported
[08:13] <DJJeff> this bug is 2+ years old.. (affects raring,saucy,trusty)
[08:13] <DJJeff> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/1009238
[08:13] <ax562> wheatthin: sluggish performance is gone with xfce4.10 but bugs never went away
[08:13] <ax562> not sure if it's the theme, xfce4, or vlc
[08:13] <wheatthin> ax562, that's cause they went ahead and tried different approaches
[08:13] <wheatthin> with 12.04+
[08:14] <wheatthin> i'm on the 12.04.4 install, updated, and stable as can expect :)
[08:15] <wheatthin> with this low grade graphics card anywho
[08:15] <Ross> anyone here that can answer a question about wireless connection?
[08:15] <wheatthin> Ross, just ask, and if anybody knows, they'll shoot you an answer
[08:16] <Ross> ok, thx
[08:20] <otherworldlyenig> i need to reinstall ubuntu but my computer will not say book from cd or usb on start up is there a way i can get around this
[08:21] <CryptoSiD> hi guys, when i restart apache2 it show me the code of the init.d/apache2 file, anyone know how to fix this?
[08:31] <E99> I need a new graphics card for gaming on ubuntu
[08:31] <E99> What should i get
[08:32] <LaurenF> CryptoSiD: How did you install in the first place?
[08:32] <LaurenF> E99: Do you have a budget?
[08:32] <CryptoSiD> apt-get install
[08:32] <CryptoSiD> apache2
[08:32] <LaurenF> CryptoSiD: Sorry I had the wrong username.
[08:32] <LaurenF> otherworldlyenig: How did you install in the first place?
[08:33] <CryptoSiD> sad
[08:33] <otherworldlyenig> i installed it with a flash drive it worked the first time around because i had a blank hard drive but now it will not let me re install it
[08:33] <CryptoSiD> :D
[08:33] <brucemb> I cron'ed a reboot with "0 6,18 * * * reboot" and it did not execute. Do you have any ideas why?
[08:34] <LaurenF> CryptoSiD: Did you ask the #apache channels though?
[08:34] <CryptoSiD> well its ubuntu related, its related about init.d/apache2
[08:34] <CryptoSiD> from ubuntu
[08:34] <CryptoSiD> when i use service apache2 restart it show me the code from the init.d/apache2
[08:35] <CryptoSiD> reload or start also
[08:35] <LaurenF> CryptoSiD: Ys it is ubuntu related, but it is also apache related, and I feel like it doesn't hurt to ask them as well
[08:35] <brucemb> any ideas?
[08:39] <LaurenF> brucemb: Only thing i can think of is specify the path exactly. Cron shell is not standard.
[08:39] <thorsten1> good morning
[08:39] <brucemb> LaurenF: so the cron path does not include /sbin/
[08:40] <thorsten1> is someone familiar with gammu?
[08:40] <LaurenF> brucemb: Unknown. But I would try /sbin/reboot and see if that works.
[08:41] <somsip> brucemb: you want the system to reboot every 12 hours?
[08:42] <brucemb> somsip: yip
[08:42] <brucemb> somsip: are there more affective ways of doing this?
[08:42] <somsip> brucemb: no idea. I wouldn't want to do such a thing
[08:43] <otherworldlyenig> is there anyone who knows how i can get my computer to turn on usb or live cd boot ? everything is grayed out in my bios
[08:44] <LaurenF_> brucemb: I got disconnected . Was your cron fixed?
[08:44] <hualet> otherworldlyenig, try press f12 on booting
[08:44] <otherworldlyenig> i did
[08:45] <otherworldlyenig> everything is grayed out
[08:45] <brucemb> LaurenF_: I hope so. It has yet to run :-)
[08:45] <LaurenF_> LaurenF_: was it an error in the time specification?
[08:45] <brucemb> huh?
[08:45] <LaurenF_> brucemb: Was it an error in the time specification?
[08:45] <hualet> otherworldlyenig, have no idea then
[08:45] <brucemb> LaurenF_: nope, the time is ok. I just added the pull path like you suggested
[08:46] <otherworldlyenig> is there a way to reinstall ubuntu without a live cd or usb
[08:46] <LaurenF_> brucemb: I would do this: * * * * * env > /tmp/env.txt
[08:46] <LaurenF_> then compare that with the normal result of env, to see the differences in the cron shell
[08:48] <brucemb> LaurenF_: yeah that is a good idea LaurenF_
[08:48] <brucemb> LaurenF_: thanks hey
[08:53] <LaurenF_> brucemb: On my system, I get PATH=/usr/bin:/bin for cron
[08:54] <brucemb> LaurenF_: that explains it then
[08:54] <brucemb> thanks for all your help LaurenF_
[08:56] <egsome> How to make sure 01.org is Intel ? The HTTPS Certificate doesn't tell an owner.
[08:58] <Zune> Hi anyone inhere who has been using plex media server, I have a mounted samba, that has ACL, and I can't seem to get it working, And I am not interested in just running plex as root I want it done the right way.
[08:58] <hipitihop> can anyone give me a pointer why <shift><enter> or <ctrl><enter> does not work in browser... are those standard modifiers/shortcuts setup elsewhere and don't make through to the browser
[09:01] <LaurenF_> hipitihop: firefox?
[09:04] <LaurenF_> hipitihop: If you mean it is firefox, the ubuntu version disables some operations like "backspace -> back" as they were considered confusing to new uers. You should be able to restore those by disabling the ubuntu firefox plugin and/or setting the configuration in Firefox
[09:05] <hipitihop> LaurenF_, both FF and Chrome ....but actually just checking, it's PEBKAC
[09:05] <tarelerulz> I have any of you used voice search in Chrome?  Do any of you know how to turn off  blocking the F word   ?
[09:06] <hipitihop> LaurenF_, thanks for responding. Seems all good. Will have to check with user if its PEBCAK or the fact that they are running 13.10 in a VirtualBox on windows host.
[09:07] <LaurenF_> tarelerulz: I do on android
[09:07] <LaurenF_> hipitihop: If it's in a vbox check the hypervisor isn't intercepting that key combo as well
[09:07] <tarelerulz> LaurenF_:  It lame that Ubuntu don't get the same love as Windows and mac.
[09:07] <LaurenF_> hipitihop: in fact if you are a windows host i am sure it is: isnt alt+enter a windows shortcut to maximise?
[09:09] <hipitihop> LaurenF_, possible but not sure, been too long since on Windows (thankfully) .. but in this case trying <Shift><Enter> as opposed to <alt><enter>
[09:10] <LaurenF_> tarelerulz: I can tell you how to do it on android but i dont think that helps. Let me load chrome on a desktop and look around
[09:12] <hipitihop> LaurenF_, actually I see now.. on my host 12.04 Chrome works fine and FF doesn't must be FF
[09:13] <LaurenF_> hipitihop: it is the ubutnu firefox "mods" then. users would press backspace inappropraitely on webmail and the browser would go back and lose their edit; they disabled that and others
[09:14] <hipitihop> eek
[09:14] <hipitihop> LaurenF_, workaround ?
[09:15] <hipitihop> LaurenF_, apart from "use chrome" :-)
[09:16] <Evilmax> hi all
[09:16] <Evilmax> how can i see if someone dos me?
[09:16] <Evilmax> how see syn ack list?
[09:16] <LaurenF_> hipitihop: Backspace is a setting in firefox about:config. I don't remember its name. I don't know shift+enter.
[09:17] <hipitihop> LaurenF_, thanks looking
[09:18] <Hornet-> wot ho, I seem unable to see an IDE drive via linux? this is 13.04 btw
[09:18] <TheUnnamedDude> I seem to have a problem with programs dropdown menu not showing up
[09:18] <TheUnnamedDude> Like in hexchat, the server etc dropdown is gone
[09:19] <Hornet-> given that I need to recover data from that drive before I can install, it's a fairly major problem
[09:19] <LaurenF_> Hornet-: Is the drive detected in BIOS?
[09:20] <Hornet-> I believe so, but not explicitly checked since last time I was in the case
[09:20] <Hornet-> can but will mean a reboot
[09:20] <LaurenF_> Don't need to open the case to check if the drive is detected in BIOS.
[09:21] <Hornet-> I said since last time I was in there :)
[09:21] <Hornet-> it was detected a while ago, but I added other drives since
[09:21] <LaurenF_> Hornet-: May I ask where you have looked for the drive? Does it show up in the disks tool?
[09:21] <Hornet-> fdisk -l , mount , blkid
[09:21] <Hornet-> doubtful but I'll check
[09:22] <Hornet-> nope
[09:22] <Hornet-> all others are but that's the only ide
[09:22] <Hornet-> won't be staying in the  case either
[09:22] <Hornet-> just getting the data offi t then it's  dust
[09:22] <LaurenF_> Hornet-: Are you seeing the IDE interface detected?
[09:23] <Hornet-> eg /sda ?
[09:23] <hipitihop> LaurenF_, have disabled all addons in FF, no luck
[09:23] <LaurenF_> Hornet-: the disk controller for IDE
[09:23] <Hornet-> where would I look for that?
[09:23] <TheUnnamedDude> Its missing those; http://screencloud.net/v/ggPs
[09:24] <TheUnnamedDude> Should be server, edit etc there
[09:24] <LaurenF_> Hornet-: I would check that, and also check the IDE drive is seen by the BIOS and its jumpers are set correctly. I don't know if you know how to install IDE drives or not, they are diferent from SATA in that they needed jumpers.
[09:24] <Hornet-> I'm aware, and this drive was in the case before, same disk config - new motherbaord though
[09:25] <Hornet-> jumpers not changed
[09:25] <llutz> Hornet-: case = external or internal? new motherboard, you checked IDE is enabled in BIOS settings at all?
[09:25] <LaurenF_> hipitihop: Not really sure. This *might* help. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/869214
[09:26] <Hornet-> internal, essentially, outside the case at present
[09:26] <LaurenF_> Hornet-: the thing is, if the hardware is correctly installed and working, ubuntu *should* detect an ide drive
[09:26] <Hornet-> I've seen it appear before, but not checked bios recently
[09:26] <llutz> Hornet-:  you checked IDE is enabled in BIOS settings at all?
[09:26] <llutz> Hornet-: check it
[09:26] <Hornet-> no but I've seen it in alisting before, so presumably it must be
[09:26] <Evilmax> please: what command i can use for see if someone is dossing my server?
[09:26] <llutz> Hornet-: check it
[09:27] <LaurenF_> they make new motherboards with ide connectors?
[09:27] <Hornet-> yes going to
[09:27] <Hornet-> back shortly
 hello. I can't seem to get replaygain working. I listen to a mix of classical music which volume is too less, rock music which volume is louder than should be. I enabled replaygain in deadbeef but even after multiple listens to the songs I usually listen to, there is no volume normalization across the playlist.
 am i misunderstanding what replaygain is supposed to do?
 how do I get volume normalization for whole playlist?
[09:31] <Reptilia> I am getting a really poor quality audio output (distortions, noise-alike sound), while using Ubuntu. That's not the case while using Windows 7. What could the problem be? Poor quality audio codec? Thanks in advance.
[09:33] <hipitihop> LaurenF_, that didn't work either.. giving in, telling user to use chrome
[09:33] <fob> I'm getting a similar problem on linux distros. I wouldn't say poor quality, but sometimes I get tiny distortions or skips
[09:34] <LaurenF_> hipitihop: You might want to try askubuntu, but it will take a day or so for them to reply. YOu could also try ICEWEASEL browser which is identical to firefox except for the branding, and should give you a 'generic' install
[09:34] <hipitihop> LaurenF_, thanks for trying and your time.
[09:35] <LaurenF_> hipitihop: iceweasel really is identical, it's just not got the moz trademarks. debian uses it instead of FF.
[09:35] <Reptilia> I am getting a really poor quality audio output (distortions, noise-alike sound), while using Ubuntu. That's not the case while using Windows 7. What could the problem be? Poor quality audio codec? Thanks in advance.
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> fob: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[09:35] <thorsten1> someone is familiar with gammu?
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> Reptilia: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[09:36] <hipitihop> LaurenF_, will giveit a try
[09:36] <Reptilia> ActionParsnip: Okay :D
[09:37] <Reptilia> ActionParsnip: Should i restart?
[09:38] <hoijui> is IceCat the new name for IceWeasel?
[09:39] <Hornet-> sorted it; graphics card had nudged the mb-end IDE lead out JUST enough to cause it to not register
[09:39] <Hornet-> cheers for your assistance though
[09:40] <Hornet-> I was expecting a much higher-level problem
[09:40] <hipitihop> hoijui, no standard repository for icecat or iceweasel it seems
[09:40] <Reptilia> ActionParsnip: It did not fix, i uploaded, restarted, and the sound quality is still the same.
[09:41] <hoijui> yeah.. i just heard first time about iceweasel, but i am using icecat, and yeha.. needs an extra repository
[09:41] <fob> Reptilia: you have to paste the link here which you get after running the command
[09:41] <llutz> Hornet-: it mostly the easy things... that's why checking is more important than "i guess, i think, last time it was...."
[09:41] <Reptilia> fob: Which link?
[09:42] <fob> After running the command in the terminal, you should get an  URL link
[09:42] <Hornet-> llutz, tbf, the bios would have had no way to un-set anything, which was what you were suggesting
[09:42] <Hornet-> so when it wasn't there I checked jumpers & cables
[09:42] <Hornet-> drive was spinning up so I knew it had power ed
[09:42] <fob> I'll paste  mine in a couple m,inutes, am booted into another distro at the moment
[09:42] <Hornet-> *etc
[09:44] <Reptilia> fob: Aha, that was a script.  I do get an output file, but i can't copy from it, when i click on it, it disappears.
[09:45] <llutz> Hornet-: which was the next logical step, right
[09:47] <Hornet-> yar. I did a visual check after installing the gfx though, and as the drive span up I knew the power was fine - just seems the ide lead has enough room to be 'out' whilst in the socket
[09:47] <Hornet-> academic now though, with any luck it's the last ide drive I'll have to deal with
[09:47] <Reptilia> fob: My brain lag has decreased. Here's the link: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=968e6d8fc485190575e70df74235f42e2aefc249
[09:48] <nyl> what was the ubuntu application development channel?
[09:48] <Reptilia> ActionParsnip: Here's the link: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=968e6d8fc485190575e70df74235f42e2aefc249
[09:48] <fob> yes, now you should wait for ActionParsnip's reply
[09:48] <Reptilia> fob: Yup, thanks :)
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> Reptilia: it you run alsamixer      pull some of the levels to about 75% then crank speakers
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> Reptilia: are you using hdmi audio or normal speakers?
[10:00] <Reptilia> ActionParsnip: I did not understand the first question / statement, sorry
[10:00] <TheUnnamedDude> So, this ubuntu installation is useless now :/
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> Reptilia: alsamixer is a terminal command
[10:00] <Reptilia> ActionParsnip: Yup
[10:01] <Reptilia> ActionParsnip: Btw i am using normal speakers.
[10:01] <Reptilia> At the moment, headphones, but it's the same on the speakers.
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> TheUnnamedDude: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[10:01] <Reptilia> When a music has a buzzy-basses they distort, feel over-saturated or something similar
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Reptilia: pull down volume in apps then crank speakers
[10:02] <Reptilia> In alsa-mixer?
[10:03] <TheUnnamedDude> No drop-down menus
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Reptilia: yes, use cursors to select and edit levels, M to un/mute and ESC to quit
[10:03] <TheUnnamedDude> In any program
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> TheUnnamedDude: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[10:03] <Reptilia> When a music has a buzzy-basses they distort, feel over-saturated or something similar
[10:03] <Reptilia> mistake.
[10:03] <Reptilia> Should i lower the Master level?
[10:03] <TheUnnamedDude> http://pastebin.com/wshZ4Lf0
[10:03] <OerHeks> TheUnnamedDude, select the window, then goto top panel to enter menus, this is called global menu
[10:03] <Reptilia> to about 75%?
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Reptilia: yes, set all to about 75%
[10:03] <TheUnnamedDude> I know that OerHeks...
[10:03] <Reptilia> all? okay
[10:04] <TheUnnamedDude> Well, not the part about global menu
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> Reptilia: are the controls not in the absolute top left corner?
[10:04] <[Gentoo]> Reptilia: do you use an external amp?
[10:05] <Reptilia> Nope, i wrote "alsamixer" in the terminal, and now i am lowering all the levels to 70%
[10:05] <Reptilia> 75%
[10:05] <Reptilia> *
[10:05] <Reptilia> [Gentoo]: Nope
[10:06] <[Gentoo]> normally PCM can be lowered to reduce that clipping effect but im pretty sure it only happens on lower quality on board sound cards
[10:06] <Reptilia> Nope, still the same, the sound is something like "over-saturated"
[10:07] <Reptilia> Actually, it depends on the genre of music i am listening to
[10:07] <[Gentoo]> what app are you trying this on?
[10:07] <[Gentoo]> to play the music
[10:07] <Reptilia> Electronic music seems over-saturated
[10:07] <Reptilia> I am streaming from Youtube
[10:07] <[Gentoo]> does it do it on a music player?
[10:08] <[Gentoo]> i was gona say, try a music player and set the output to alsa (not pulse or anythign else)
[10:08] <[Gentoo]> and see if it does the same thing
[10:08] <Reptilia> Sure, but why would PCM induce a clipping effect?
[10:08] <Reptilia> (don't know, want to know)
[10:10] <Reptilia> Have to go now, thanks for the help, i hope i will fix it somehow, bye
[10:13] <TheUnnamedDude> indicator-appmenu was missing
[10:13] <translucentbyte> hi?
[10:13] <TheUnnamedDude> somehow
[10:13] <translucentbyte> hi?
[10:14] <translucentbyte> hi?
[10:14] <translucentbyte> hi?
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> translucentbyte: hi....
[10:14] <translucentbyte> hi
[10:14] <[Gentoo]> hi
[10:14] <translucentbyte> hi
[10:14] <[Gentoo]> hey
[10:14] <translucentbyte> where r u frm?
[10:15] <[Gentoo]> hi
[10:15] <translucentbyte> hi Busybyeski
[10:15] <Busybyeski> howdy
[10:15] <translucentbyte> where r u frm Busybyeski
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> translucentbyte: this is support, location is moot here
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> translucentbyte: chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:16] <translucentbyte> oh ok
[10:31] <hillary_> bekks: I followed your advice and back to work now thanks. I will never play with chmod _R again
[10:45] <CryptoSiD> when i use service apache2 restart it show me the code from the init.d/apache2, on ubuntu, if anyone have an idea how to fix this lemme know
[10:45] <CryptoSiD> help me thx a lot
[10:45] <CryptoSiD> so generous!
[10:45] <CryptoSiD> restart reload start stop, whatever, they all show init.d/apache2 code. output this in console
[10:45] <CryptoSiD> pretty weird
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> CryptoSiD: does it not just show the stop / start succeeding / failing?
[10:50] <hillary_> I did not know it dangerous to use chmod _R any howly
[10:50] <idimmu> CryptoSiD: is there a set -x in the script?
[10:51] <CryptoSiD> ActionParsnip nope it output everyting from the script
[10:51] <CryptoSiD> sec idimmu
[10:51] <idimmu> that'll activate debugging and echo everything
[10:51] <idimmu> it should still 'work' tho, i.e. start/stop/restart shit
[10:51] <CryptoSiD> its set -e
[10:51] <CryptoSiD> not set -x
[10:51] <ikonia> idimmu: please tone down the langauge
[10:52] <idimmu> ah set -e just makes the script exit if any command fail
[10:52] <CryptoSiD> oh yes also a set -x
[10:52] <CryptoSiD> at second line
[10:52] <hillary_> how can i pin eclipse icon on the desktop ubuntu 12.04
[10:52] <idimmu> ah ikonia now i remember why i hate ubuntu
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> CryptoSiD: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[10:53] <hillary_> i install it download folder
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> hillary_: eclipse is in the repos
[10:53] <CryptoSiD> Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[10:53] <someoneone> hello! i want to create crontab entry repeating each 4 days, but i don't know how to do that - i tried that one 0 0 */4 * * bash command.sh but this is just every fourth day in month... i want to run that job every for days... hot to do that?
[10:53] <idimmu> CryptoSiD: just strip that line out then
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> CryptoSiD: then I suggest you report a bug
[10:53] <idimmu> ActionParsnip: i doubt thats stock
[10:53] <idimmu> someone added it
[10:53] <idimmu> it wont be an ubuntu bug
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> idimmu: we'll see
[10:53] <idimmu> i.e. my 12.04 doesnt do it
[10:53] <CryptoSiD> fixed by removing the set -x
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> someoneone: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4549542/cron-job-every-three-days
[10:55] <CryptoSiD> well thx a lots guys
[10:55] <CryptoSiD> fixed!
[10:55] <idimmu> no problemo
[10:55] <hillary_> how do i go about. i downloaded and run it on the same folder.
[10:56] <someoneone> ActionParsnip: that one starts from third day in month... i want continuous repeating
[10:58] <someoneone> ActionParsnip: so if that job run in 29. day in month and that month has 31 days... than the next job should be scheduled for 1, day in next month
[10:59] <idimmu> put htat logic in a script and wrap your stuff in it?
[10:59] <idimmu> then just call your script daily
[11:08] <Dexterp91> Hey guys. Anyone here do Android app development?
[11:08] <idimmu> i have in the past
[11:11] <Bruno_Cavalcanti> good morning everybody
[11:13] <Dexterp91> idimmu, what kind of applications did you make, and what methods have you used?
[11:15] <idimmu> interfaces to control restful web apps
[11:15] <idimmu> my favourite method is println
[11:16] <idimmu> ive used other methods though
[11:16] <idimmu> main
[11:16] <idimmu> thats pretty popular
[11:16] <idimmu> ...
[11:17] <Dexterp91> I have a college project to do which involves creating an Android application, I'm leaning more towards html as I only have 8 weeks and 2 other projects to work on. Any advice on techniques and tools?
[11:22] <idimmu> er install eclipse and the android sdk, do hello world, 8 weeks is a long time..
[11:23] <idimmu> also guage the sentiments of the class
[11:23] <idimmu> is it a java class, an html class or just a mobile development class
[11:23] <Dexterp91> it's an Interactive media class
[11:24] <Dexterp91> I also have to make a 2 level game, and 3D model a room. so yeah
[11:24] <idimmu> sounds liek your best bet
[11:25] <idimmu> as youre doing a media class ...
[11:25] <idimmu> is to do a unity android app
[11:25] <idimmu> http://blog.rabidgremlin.com/2012/03/10/tutorial-creating-your-first-unity-android-app/comment-page-1/
[11:25] <idimmu> maybe
[11:26] <andry> hi folks, anybody here with pinta installed?
[11:27] <andry> and ubuntu >=13.10
[11:31] <odium> I know I shouldn't have a kernel of my own creation, and expect any help, but I am trying to install fglrx drivers and I am getting odd "dkms" errors when I try to install either the latest or the beta versions, what might I do to alleviate the following error?
[11:31] <odium> "/var/lib/dkms/fglrx/13.101/build/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:1747:1: warning: control reaches end of non-void function"
[11:31] <basichash> Not sure where to post this, but I'm trying to send an email to an @aol.com email address, but get this error sent back to me: https://dpaste.de/wq7S
[11:32] <basichash> - ubuntu 13.04, thunderbird
[11:32] <llutz> basichash: you don use [] in email-adresses
[11:32] <idimmu> basichash: you got the address wrong so aol are rejecting it
[11:32] <odium> no brackets
[11:32] <odium> news to me
[11:33] <odium> someone halp me
[11:33] <Dexterp91> isn't Unity a windows program?
[11:33] <basichash> idimmu, llutz: the email address has been redacted, it's legit
[11:33] <idimmu> its not
[11:33] <cyford> can someone tell me why this  would work in command  but not as a varable in ubuntu
[11:33] <basichash> why not?
[11:33] <idimmu> else youd get a different error
[11:33] <idimmu> dont argue
[11:33] <cyford> nice -n 17 sudo ps -e | egrep bacula
[11:33] <cyford> but not -
[11:34] <cyford> baculad="nice -n 17 sudo ps -e | egrep bacula"
[11:34] <basichash> idimmu: i put the brackets there myself
[11:34] <basichash> originall address<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:35] <llutz> basichash: stop that stupid obfuscation then
[11:35] <Fjorgynn> lol aol
[11:36] <ikonia> basichash: I've told you what to do
[11:37] <anonymous> hello
[11:37] <basichash> @ikonia: using irssi, did you pm me?
[11:37] <ikonia> basichash: no, I told you in the other channels you asked this question
[11:38] <ikonia> basichash: basically - contact AOL
[11:38] <basichash> ikonia: thanks
[11:41] <ice9> sometimes when I upgrade packages I get "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" why is that?
[11:42] <mrkie> :)
[11:42] <mrkie> i've got a shortcut on my ubuntu dekstop with this command: /bin/sh sudo service apache2 restart
[11:42] <mrkie> it seems not to be working, what's wrong?
[11:42] <mrkie> atleast it would need to ask me to enter a password
[11:43] <mrkie> this /bin/sh "sudo service apache2 restart" also doesn't work from the shortcut
[11:43] <llutz> mrkie: use gksudo, not sudo
[11:43] <Fjorgynn> Just got a job
[11:43] <ikonia> mrkie: shortcut ?
[11:44] <mrkie> llutz: i used that before, it works i think, not sure, i don't see the output
[11:45] <ice9> sometimes when I upgrade packages I get "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" however they were installed from the same repos without this issue, does this means that key may be compromised?
[11:46] <cyford> why this  works---  ps -e | egrep bacula  ( but this doesnt )   export baculad="ps -e | egrep bacula"  ;  $baculad
[11:47] <llutz> cyford: eval  $baculad
[11:47] <cyford> you are the man
[11:47] <cyford>        i didnt need to do that for other os's
[11:48] <cyford>    i wonder if it still would work
[11:48] <llutz> cyford: bash needs it, dash won't, other shells ... idk
[11:48] <mrkie> llutz: can you give the root password with gksudo on the fly?
[11:49] <ikonia> you shouldn't give the root password
[11:49] <ikonia> the root password doesn't exist on an ubuntu box
[11:49] <llutz> mrkie: i doubt that, it should ask for user password
[11:51] <mrkie> llutz: so i need to supply a .sh script i guess
[11:52] <llutz> mrkie: gksudo [-u <user>] [options] <command>                 should do with the pure command too, according man-page
[11:54] <cyford>     hmm    my actual goal  was to run something like this
[11:54] <cyford> ionice -c2 -n7 -p $(pidof -x $baculad)
[11:54] <cyford>   where would eval go in there
[11:56] <mrkie> llutz: i'm still here http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man1/gksu.1.html and i don't really get it
[11:56] <SodaDaPimp> LoL
[11:56] <llutz> cyford:  ionice -c2 -n7 -p $(pgrep bacula)  ?
[11:56] <SodaDaPimp> Anyone Alive...?
[11:57] <mrkie> llutz: can you help me a little bit? thanks in advance
[11:57] <cyford> yes  but thats doesnt work for backula-fd backula-sd
[11:58] <cyford>  i want  one line that would tell  the pid on any linux    any backula
[11:58] <SodaDaPimp> yo check it i got ubuntu 12.04 i set up the webmin shit where do i create the folders for the perl scripts ?
[11:58] <llutz> cyford: pgrep bacula  finds bacula bacula-fd bacula-sd etc.
[11:59] <streulma> hello, I have an Acer, is Acer a good mark of PC's for Ubuntu ?
[11:59] <SodaDaPimp> lol @ acer
[11:59] <llutz> !webmin | SodaDaPimp
[11:59] <ksuhku> "Unless you have opted out we will send your keystrokes to third parties including: Facebook, Twitter, BBC and Amazon." -- http://www.ubuntu.com/privacy-policy For the whole list of third parties, see http://www.ubuntu.com/privacy-policy/third-parties
[12:00] <llutz> ksuhku: stop it here, it's still not scope of this channel
[12:00] <ksuhku> llutz, when you stop spying on people
[12:00] <SodaDaPimp> actually it seems to be working just fine on ubuntu 12.04
[12:00] <llutz> ksuhku: i'm not spying at anyone
[12:00] <clunkychicken> https://fixubuntu.com
[12:00] <llutz> ksuhku: i agree with you, but not here
[12:01] <SodaDaPimp> https://<IP_ADDRESS>:10000/ see if it works for u
[12:01] <SodaDaPimp> :)
[12:01] <SodaDaPimp> works just fine for me
[12:01] <SodaDaPimp> LoL
[12:01] <streulma> clunkychicken +1
[12:02] <cyford> your right,  it works  :)
[12:03] <SodaDaPimp> yeah just got done setting it up and all
[12:03] <cyford> i need sudo thouhg
[12:03] <cyford>   does sudo work on all linux?
[12:03] <SodaDaPimp> but don't know where to upload the scripts
[12:03] <llutz> cyford: no
[12:03] <SodaDaPimp> perl
[12:03] <SodaDaPimp> lol
[12:03] <SodaDaPimp> or what directory should i create a folder in
[12:04] <llutz> cyford: its available for all distros, but not default and often  configured different than in *buntu
[12:04] <cyford> if the script is run as root,   it shouldnt need sudo in it right?
[12:04] <llutz> cyford: right
[12:04] <SodaDaPimp> for sure
[12:04] <ice9> .gnupg is owned by me and it's permission is 600 but when I ls -l without sudo I get ????? for the permissions
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> cyford: on most yes, some dont use it and will use su stuff by default but most distros allow you to install and configure sudo
[12:05] <clunkychicken> dear god dont run webmin as sudo
[12:05] <llutz> ice9: because x (traverse directory) is missing
[12:05] <clunkychicken> with*
[12:05] <ice9> llutz: what's the traverse dir?
[12:05] <SodaDaPimp> i should create a folder called blah for an example right so i can cd blah then like cd blah.pl etc
[12:05] <llutz> ice9: chmod 700 .gnupg
[12:05] <cyford> my first script,     but   making this   http://www.cyfordtechnologies.com/linux-servers/linux-self-optimizing-and-repair-script
[12:06] <llutz> ice9: "x" permission (execute) on dirs
[12:06] <cyford>     so far  ubuntu  was giving me my only challange
[12:06] <cyford>   but think im ok now :)   thanks yall
[12:06] <ice9> llutz: "x" is mandatory even for the owner to access the dir?
[12:06] <llutz> ice9: yes
[12:08] <mrkie> what is the best irc client in ubuntu?
[12:08] <mrkie> i like mirc but i doubt it runs with wine
[12:08] <llutz> there is no "best" app, no polls here please mrkie
[12:08] <mrkie> i know use webchat
[12:08] <mrkie> now :)
[12:09] <mrkie> sure llutz
[12:09] <clunkychicken> mrkie pidgin
[12:09] <clunkychicken> or irssi if in terminal
[12:09] <moza> hello
[12:13] <ice9> llutz: it works thanks but why I get warring of safe ownership for .gnupg it's 700?
[12:13] <llutz> ice9: what warns? what warning exactly?
[12:14] <ice9> llutz: "gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/neo/.gnupg/gpg.conf'"
[12:14] <llutz> ice9: it warnes on the file, not the .gnupg dir
[12:14] <ikonia> the irony of "neo"
[12:14] <llutz> ice9: chmod 600 .gnupg/*
[12:14] <ice9> ikonia: seems to be :D
[12:16] <kyrre_> opencore
[12:17] <ice9> is there a channel for ubuntu mir?
[12:18] <DJones> ice9: #ubuntu-mir
[12:22] <cyford> i hope this isnt taking it too far,  but is there a way i can make the script be aware if it is  being run from cron or a user,  and if user    add interactivity
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> ice9: i dont have that file on my 12.04 system...
[12:29] <jasabella> will installing pgsql9.3 ruin my 12.04.4 LTS stability?
[12:31] <fmerges> anyone with ubuntu on macbook pro 2012/2013? everything working?
[12:32] <jasabella> im running it on a p4 prescott, surely it should run on that
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> jasabella: how much RAM?
[12:35] <jasabella> 1gb
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> jasabella: bit low but should run ok
[12:35] <dupingping> Hi
[12:36] <dupingping> everybody
[12:36] <jasabella> yup
[12:36] <jasabella> im on it right now via ssh
[12:36] <dupingping> Hi guys.
[12:36] <jasabella> im running server though
[12:36] <dupingping> How to check lsb version of Ubuntu?
[12:36] <Ameurux> Hi
[12:36] <dupingping> just I forgot. please help me.
[12:36] <jasabella> it's my web/file/print server :)
[12:36] <cfhowlett> dupingping, terminal  lsb_release -a
[12:37] <dupingping> cfhowlett: Great. Thank you very much.
[12:37] <Joenie> I need a script that copies files and directories to a set map. But can't get it working. Who can help me (Loops should be in eachother but don't know how and don't want inf. loops). :P http://pastebin.com/5pcAV213
[12:37] <cfhowlett> dupingping, happy to help
[12:38] <dupingping> cfhowlett: hehe. I sent you million kiss.
[12:38] <Ameurux> When mir will be default?
[12:39] <cfhowlett> Ameurux, last article I read suggested 2015 at the earliest ...
[12:40] <Ameurux> Man
[12:40] <Ameurux> Long time! !!
[12:41] <jasabella> heh i just cat /etc/lsb-release
[12:44] <googcheng> hi, all!  when i from 12.04.3 upgrade to 12.04.4  my background color becomes blue ,and ubuntu desktop crashed . i have tried reinstall doesnt work . how to solve it
[12:44] <googcheng>
[12:47] <dcrouch> I'm having a bit of trouble installing resize4fs.  I tried apt-file search resize4fs and didn't find.  Not sure what package provides.  Any clues?
[12:47] <janisozaur> hi, my lenovo laptop has a fancy multiplexed mic/headphones jack. headphones work flawlessly, but i can't make external mic work, connected via splitter (with TRRS plug). it (the adapter/mic) works flawlessly on friend's (same) hardware with windows. how do i enable that mic?
[12:49] <janisozaur> dcrouch, i think you want resize2fs with ext4 option
[12:49] <janisozaur> !info e2fsprogs | dcrouch
[12:50] <didko> how to install counter strike 1.6 server's ?
[12:51] <dcrouch> janisozaur, that makes sense. :)  Thanks Used to requiring resize4fs on Redhat/CentOS.
[12:51] <didko> help ?
[12:51] <janisozaur> !patience | didko
[12:51] <cfhowlett> !patience|didko, this aint' the instant answer channel
[12:51] <didko> xaxa
[12:52] <didko> what the problem ?
[12:52] <cfhowlett> didko, steam is in the ubuntu repos.  to install servers, I think you need to download from www.steampowered.com
[12:58] <dcrouch> I don't understand why people hear that a game server can be installed on Ubuntu and they rush to install with zero knowledge about running a server itself.
[12:59] <seednode> dcrouch, because they think ubuntu is just some exotic software on top of Windows, and not something separate ;)
[13:00] <dcrouch> seednode, I actually find CentOS easier than Windows and Ubuntu even in a desktop environment.  Was looking to practice for certs and had it doing everything for a while...  But then we switched to macs.  Going to try for RCHSA soon!
[13:01] <webfox_> Is it possible to empty trash from command line?
[13:01] <seednode> dcrouch, perhaps, but I find FreeBSD easier than windows in a desktop envinronment :P
[13:01] <jasabella> why is get-dist-upgrade tellingme there is nothing to do whereas apt-get install dist-upgrade tells me there is>100mb to download?
[13:02] <dcrouch> Probably not in desktop envrionment.  I don't really use it much in that aspect.  But via Virtualbox a VM can be hax for managing an SSL connection that would otherwise leave you stuck.  :)
[13:02] <cfhowlett> dcrouch, get-dist-upgrade is not a valid command
[13:02] <googcheng> hi, all!  when i from 12.04.3 upgrade to 12.04.4  my background color becomes blue ,and ubuntu desktop crashed . i have tried reinstall doesnt work . how to solve it
[13:02] <jasabella> do-release-upgradesorry
[13:02] <dcrouch> cfhowlett, wrong person.  :-P
[13:03] <cfhowlett> dcrouch, sorry
[13:03] <rymate1234> jasabella: do-release-upgrade upgrades to a newer ubuntu iirc
[13:03] <cfhowlett> jasabella, dist-upgrade raises current packages and ^^^ as rymate said
[13:03] <dcrouch> seednode, all the same pretty much core linux in some aspects various flavors thrown on top.  I understand many differnces but...  Once you understand one learning various differences is not hard.  Shell commands and knowledge are always valuable.
[13:04] <jasabella> does dist-upgrade maintain LTS stability or should i not do that if i want maximum stability?
[13:04] <cfhowlett> jasabella, IS for stability.
[13:04] <seednode> dcrouch, I agree, but now we've gone OT
[13:04] <jasabella> ?
[13:04] <rymate1234> always do a clean reinstall if youre upgrading
[13:04] <rymate1234> to a newer ubuntu
[13:04] <jasabella> so i should sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade every so often
[13:04] <jasabella> ?
[13:05] <cfhowlett> jasabella, I only install LTS - as improvements and fixes enter the stream, you can capture them with dist-upgrade
[13:05] <cfhowlett> !who
[13:05] <dcrouch> seednode, :) Thanks.  I happen to do that a lot. :(
[13:05] <dcrouch> Does this channel have a user max limit set?  Just noticed 1604 people.  LOL
[13:05] <jasabella> cfhowlett... but it potentially reduces stability right?
[13:06] <seednode> dcrouch, well, if you want to continue, we can move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:06] <jasabella> do you only install the packages that are included on the ubuntu cd too?
[13:06] <dcrouch> seednode, It's fine, just sort of continued, I perfer private messages feel free to.  Just working and received the quick answer I was looking for.  :)
[13:06] <cfhowlett> jasabella, no I've added some additions
[13:08] <jasabella> do i install pgsql9.1 or 9.3? hmm
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> dcrouch: come in here on release day, or the day after
[13:10] <didko> cfhowlett,  i have 1 question for ... not playling counter strike 1.6 ... i need help to creat server for counter strike 1.6 ... in ubuntu
[13:11] <cfhowlett> didko, complete details for creating a steam counterstrike server are available from steam.  this is not an ubuntu issue.
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> didko: http://wiki.gandi.net/en/hosting/using-linux/tutorials/ubuntu/css
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> didko: http://www.hackerway.ch/2013/07/25/how-to-create-counter-strike-source-dedicated-server-on-ubuntu-12-04-x64-using-steamcmd/
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> didko: tonnes of guides online, and on YouTube
[13:12] <cfhowlett> !info counter-strike
[13:12] <didko> ActionParsnip,  thx have a nice day :)))
[13:12] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip, thanks.  seems I was too quick with the eject button
[13:14] <clue_h> !info indicator-appmenu
[13:14]  * ActionParsnip remembers whencouterstrike was a mod for halflife and was good
[13:14] <clue_h> can i remove  indicator-appmenu in ubuntu 12 without breaking stuff?
[13:18] <cloudgeek> ormation...
[13:18] <cloudgeek> E: Unable to locate package jenkins
[13:18] <cloudgeek> Even I added the deb repo ?
[13:22] <marandi> hey guys , i have a bunch of png image in a folder and i wanna batch resize them based on aspect ratio , for example i wanna resize all of them 2x bigger , if the picture w/h is : 100x100 i wan it 200x200 ! can u help me with command !?
[13:38] <nrdb> I am trying to establish a ssh tunnel using this test script http://paste.ubuntu.com/7162752/ ... if given an arg of "1" it uses tun0 and works fine ... if given an arg of "2" it doesn't work .... it fails to create a tun1 interface ... can anyone tell me why?  ... I can't see why that should make any difference.
[13:39] <jpjacobs> Hi! Is there someone with a 1 TB verbatim portable hard disk here that could send me his MBR / bootsector?
[13:39] <ikonia> what ???
[13:40] <ikonia> jpjacobs: what do you want an mbr ?
[13:40] <ikonia> what is it you're trying to do ?
[13:40] <nrdb> jpjacobs, why would you need to boot from an external drive?
[13:40] <dcrouch> ActionParsnip, that sounds scary!  LOL
[13:40] <jpjacobs> ikonia: I've got a disk (the one I mentioned) from which the boot sector has been fried during a crash
[13:40] <ikonia> jpjacobs: so just put a new one on it ??
[13:40] <ikonia> why are you trying to get one from someone else ?
[13:41] <jpjacobs> ikonia: the backup is also burnt
[13:41] <cyford> what the best way to grade your system performance accross platforms
[13:41] <jpjacobs> well not working
[13:41] <ikonia> jpjacobs: make a NEW one
[13:41] <cyford> through command bash
[13:41] <jpjacobs> so how (goal is not losing data)
[13:41] <ikonia> jpjacobs: again, why do you want a backup from someone elses disk ??? you know they are not specific to hardware
[13:41] <ikonia> jpjacobs: what boot sector was on it ?
[13:41] <ikonia> grub2 ?
[13:41] <jpjacobs> nrdb: did not know it either but it's apparently necessary on any disk
[13:42] <jpjacobs> it's the thing holding partition tables, disk geometry, ...
[13:42] <ikonia> you mean the partition table ?
[13:42] <jpjacobs> ikonia: it was on sector 0 I guess
[13:42] <ikonia> not the boot sector
[13:42] <nrdb> jpjacobs, boot from a LiveCD and plug it in it should work.
[13:42] <jpjacobs> and the backup at sector 6 does not work either
[13:42] <ikonia> jpjacobs: what's the actual problem, lets see what you actually need
[13:42] <jpjacobs> nrdb: tried it, gives me an unknown partition type error
[13:42] <ikonia> as what you are asking for doesn't make sense
[13:43] <cloudgeek> I want to just site.pp gonna the work for the nodes.pp, or else do we have other way ...
[13:43] <cloudgeek> so we can build the system
[13:43] <nrdb> jpjacobs, a mbr isn't going to help at all... you have lost the partition table...
[13:43] <jpjacobs> ikonia: I tried finding the partition again using testdisk, that did copy the backup sector to the main one, now it mounts,but the filenames are garbled etc
[13:43] <ikonia> jpjacobs: what's actually happened to your disk
[13:43] <jpjacobs> So apparently it was not ok
[13:44] <ikonia> cloudgeek: what are you talking about ? what is the question you want an answer to ?
[13:44] <jpjacobs> ikonia: it was in use on a PC which , shortly after crashed
[13:44] <ikonia> jpjacobs: ok, so you don't want a boot sector then
[13:44] <jpjacobs> well, hung up, and had a hard reset afterwards
[13:44] <ikonia> jpjacobs: what's happened and what have YOU done
[13:44] <ikonia> lets try to understand your state
[13:45] <jpjacobs> so, I got my girl to boot sysresccd (another issue, she's 1000km away) and give me ssh access
[13:45] <jpjacobs> ikonia: then I first tried mounting : that was a no go,
[13:45] <ikonia> jpjacobs: please explain better than "no go"
[13:45] <jpjacobs> ikonia: unknown partition type error
[13:46] <jpjacobs> basically the same as in windows (which asks to format the disk)
[13:46] <ikonia> jpjacobs: ok, so it sounds like the partition table is gone/damaged - maybe also the file system at that point
[13:46] <cloudgeek> I am using , 1 puppet master, 2 clinets, in /etc/puppet/manifest ... many .pp files, like site.pp, nodes.pp, essnce.pp, base.pp  .But it taking only package entry from site.pp
[13:46] <ikonia> cloudgeek: have you imported the other classes ?
[13:46] <jpjacobs> ikonia: indeed. Dmesg does not log any hardware errors though, so that's already a relieve!
[13:47] <ikonia> jpjacobs: that means nothing
[13:47] <ikonia> dmesg doesn't have to log a hardware error for there to be one
[13:47] <ikonia> jpjacobs: so what happened next
[13:47] <jpjacobs> ikonia: then I gave testdisk a go
[13:47] <cloudgeek> ikonia: yes I use the keyword Include
[13:47] <ikonia> cloudgeek: how did you import them
[13:48] <jpjacobs> ikonia: it found a partition and  proposed to fix the boot sector, which it said succeeded
[13:48] <jpjacobs> ikonia: but apparently the values there do not make sense because, though now it gets mounted, all entries are garbled (both structure and name)
[13:48] <ikonia> jpjacobs: that could be the file system corruption
[13:49] <cloudgeek> ikonia: I just pasting it for give me some moment
[13:49] <ikonia> as opposed to the partition table problems
[13:49] <nrdb> I am trying to establish a ssh tunnel using this test script http://paste.ubuntu.com/7162752/ ... if given an arg of "1" it uses tun0 and works fine ... if given an arg of "2" it doesn't work .... it fails to create a tun1 interface ... can anyone tell me why?  ... I can't see why that should make any difference.
[13:49] <ikonia> cloudgeek: please use a pastebin
[13:49] <jpjacobs> ikonia: unmounted the thing, and tried rebuilding the FAT, which sent testdisk into scanning the hard disk, prompting whether folders where the root or not. (Some of the folders it came up with where looking valid; but not the root)
[13:50] <ikonia> jpjacobs rebuilding the FAT ??
[13:50] <ikonia> the file allocation table shouldn't be touched like that
[13:50] <ikonia> (unless you are doing something I've not understand you are doing)
[13:50] <jpjacobs> ikonia: well that is what it said. I did not write it to disk, since it did not come up with something sensible
[13:51] <ikonia> jpjacobs: all this is being done in testdisk correct ?
[13:51] <jpjacobs> ikonia: so, what would you propose to do?
[13:51] <jpds> nrdb: Why aren't you using host-to-host IPsec for something like that?
[13:51] <jpjacobs> ikonia: indeed
[13:51] <ikonia> jpjacobs: it's looking like your data is just damaged from what you are saying
[13:52] <jpjacobs> ikonia: tried autopsy/sleuthkit too, but that basically gave the same result as what I saw mounting the disk, of course
[13:52] <ikonia> I don't know how testdisk interacts with the file allocation table, so don't know what thats actually one
[13:52] <ikonia> "done" sorry
[13:52] <jpjacobs> ikonia: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Advanced_FAT_Repair
[13:52] <ikonia> jpjacobs: I don't know what testdisk actually does
[13:52] <nrdb> jpds, I was trying it with a ssh tunnel, but IPsec is an option (maybe).  anyway why does it work with tun0 but not tun1?
[13:53] <cloudgeek> ikonia:  plz fine node.pp http://paste.ubuntu.com/7162839/ site.pp  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7162843/ jeni.pp  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7162846/
[13:53] <ikonia> cloudgeek: I'm not asking for the PP files, I'm asking how you imported them
[13:53] <jpjacobs> ikonia: so it ran through the entire disk, showing candidate root directories, of which most did not make any sense
[13:53] <jpds> nrdb: I would try -eq instead of == in the if statements.
[13:55] <jpjacobs> ikonia: So, if I understand well what you say, you would 1) install a new partition table 2) fix the filesystem ?
[13:55] <ikonia> jpjacobs: I don't think that's going to be possible
[13:56] <jpjacobs> ikonia: well, let me know if you need more info or if you have a possible solution. Here it's coffee time :)
[13:56] <jpjacobs> ikonia: and if not, thanks for trying ;)
[13:56] <ikonia> jpjacobs: the issue I've got is what/how testdisk does some of the things you've suggested
[13:57] <nrdb> jpds, ok ... the script could be done better... but the script is doing what is expected... ssh (or ifconfig) isn't thou.
[13:58] <jpds> nrdb: So it works when you do it by hand?
[13:59] <cloudgeek> ikonia: any suggestion to me
[14:00] <ikonia> cloudgeek: you've not answered the questions I asked you, so I can't help you
[14:01] <multiply> I'm trying to pass all arguments from a bash script, to a different program, but it seems like it removes quotes. Is there a way to parse all arguments, and quotes?
[14:01] <nrdb> jpds, I have the script printing the commands it is using ... and those look correct...
[14:02] <jpds> nrdb: Right, but when you do it by hand, it works?
[14:02] <cloudgeek> ikonia: sorry I am using IRC, it is in some frezzing mode...this irssi , even page up command not working I can scroll that sorry deep regert
[14:04] <cloudgeek> ikonia: I am going to IRC logs and see it and will answer you
[14:05] <evilbug> i'm not very familiar with firewall software on linux but i'm thinking of installing shoreline on my ubuntu 12.04 home server. would that be a good choice or no?
[14:05] <nrdb> jpds, no it doesn't ... same error ...  SIOCSIFADDR: No such device etc.
[14:06] <cfhowlett> !server|evilbug,
[14:06] <nrdb> jpds, change line 12 to tun0 and the script works as expected..
[14:06] <jpds> nrdb: Then it's not happy with the interface.
[14:07] <evilbug> cfhowlett: cheers.
[14:07] <cfhowlett> evilbug, :)
[14:07] <nrdb> jpds, yes! I know .... but why?  .... the name should make very little difference
[14:08] <nrdb> jpds, I only changing 1 bit.
[14:08] <cloudgeek> ikonia: I am imported using include jenkins, like that way. I specied that in node.pp
[14:08] <wheatthin> 1bit obviously changed a lot :)
[14:08] <wheatthin> lemme just change 1bit of your chromosomes lol see if that makes a difference
[14:08] <nrdb> wheatthin, have you been following this?
[14:09] <wheatthin> no, just catching up :P
[14:10] <nrdb> wheatthin, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/7162752/  ... works fine if using "tun0" doesn't work if using "tun1" .... any ideas why?
[14:13] <wheatthin> nrdb, isn't pointtopoint mispelled?
[14:14] <nrdb> wheatthin, I don't think so... else using "tun0" wouldn't work
[14:14] <googcheng> my ubuntu desktop broken after upgrade to 14.04.4 . background becames blue and unity crashed . reinstall doesnt work
[14:15] <googcheng> what's the way to solve it ? thanks in advence !
[14:15] <cfhowlett> googcheng, 14.04 is not released or officially supported yet.  ask in #ubuntu+1
[14:15] <cfhowlett> !trusty|googcheng,
[14:15] <googcheng> cfhowlett, sorry 12.04.4
[14:15] <wheatthin> yes it's released on 4/20 so awesome :)
[14:15] <wheatthin> ahh misread it lol
[14:16] <nrdb> wheatthin, ahh ... USA I see.
[14:17] <googcheng> after upgrade to ubuntu12.04.4 , the os background becames blue and unity crashed . reinstall doesnt work
[14:18] <SydneyJDykstra> What will be new in lubuntu 14.04 when it comes out?
[14:19] <googcheng> how to recovery for the case
[14:19] <googcheng> could i degrade to 12.04.3 from 12.04.4
[14:20] <reisio> SydneyJDykstra: stuff & things
[14:20] <DJones> googcheng: You can't downgrade, the only way would be to reinstall
[14:20] <DJones> !downgrade | googcheng
[14:21] <googcheng> DJones,  reinstall unity and ubuntu-desktop doesnt work
[14:22] <reisio> how doesn't it work
[14:24] <googcheng> go into gnome , can open terminal by ctr_alt_t, in the unity can't
[14:24] <googcheng> reisio,  the os background is blue , so strange
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> googcheng: did you set the shortcut in compiz, to something else
[14:25] <BassVI_96> if I've backed up Firefox & Thunderbird with MozBackup in Windows, can I use those files with the Linux equivalents in Ubuntu?
[14:25] <reisio> googcheng: mmm
[14:25] <googcheng> ActionParsnip,  i did nothing , just apply the apt-get upgrade then what happened
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> BassVI_96: I'd imagine so, good to check by asking in the mozilla channels
[14:25] <reisio> BassVI_96: probably, I don't know those particular packages
[14:26] <reisio> BassVI_96: if you go to %appdata%/Roaming/Mozilla in explorer, those are all your personal files for Firefox & Thunderbird
[14:26] <BassVI_96> I can open both files just fine with Archive Manager
[14:26] <googcheng>  the os background becomes blue, what's the cause ?
[14:26] <reisio> you don't need a fancy app, just tar them up
[14:26] <reisio> or even cp/scp/etc. them
[14:30] <cyford> hi,   i would like to grep total cpu time  from this command  sysbench --num-threads=$nproc --test=cpu --cpu-max-prime=20000 run
[14:31] <BassVI_96> wow...no mozilla channels on this net
[14:31] <scinawa> cyford,
[14:31] <scinawa> use time!
[14:32] <reisio> BassVI_96: there are, but they do also have their entire own irc server
[14:32] <reisio> cyford: so do it
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> cyford: can you pastebin the output you see
[14:32] <BassVI_96> I'm looking that up right now, reisio
[14:32] <reisio> BassVI_96: it's irc.mozilla.org
[14:32] <reisio> inventive, no? :)
[14:32] <BassVI_96> thanks :)
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> cyford: or use: time sysbench --num-threads=$nproc --test=cpu --cpu-max-prime=20000
[14:32] <reisio> BassVI_96: but I already know everything you'd be interested in knowing :p
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> cyford: as reisio says
[14:33] <reisio> as scinawa sayses :)
[14:33] <BassVI_96> basically, can I move what's in my 2 backup files directly to where they'd go in Linux?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> BassVI_96: logically
[14:36] <BassVI_96> what folders do I look for in Ubuntu?
[14:36] <cyford> ok  that works  but brings me multiple answers,   trying to make a variable with  Total time..     adding in pastebin now
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> BassVI_96: ~/.mozilla
[14:36] <reisio> BassVI_96: ^
[14:37] <BassVI_96> hmm...I can't do this through unity?
[14:37] <reisio> ~/.mozilla/ == %appdata%\Mozilla\ or something like that
[14:37] <reisio> BassVI_96: sure, it's justa  directory
[14:37] <reisio> erm, %appdata%\Roaming\Mozilla :)
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> BassVI_96: yes, Unity is just a shell. You can use Nautilus and put the data in place.
[14:37] <cyford> http://pastebin.com/Cugtm4v3
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> BassVI_96: what does this haveto do with Unity at all?
[14:43] <od6> hello. anyone using ubuntu but comes from gentoo?
[14:43] <reisio> od6: I've used both
[14:43] <reisio> od6: next poll! :)
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> od6: ive used both
[14:44] <od6> i don't know what to use anymore
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> od6: try some distros, see which you like
[14:44] <od6> i have the feeling it is not possible to contribute to ubuntu the way it is possible with gentoo
[14:44] <od6> bugzilla, forum etc.
[14:44] <reisio> od6: sure it is
[14:44] <zerowaitstate> what command allows you to see the state of the setgid bit on directories?
[14:45] <reisio> pretty much the same model
[14:45] <reisio> only Gentoo is entirely foundation based, and Ubuntu not
[14:45] <od6> i have the feeling only canonical employees count
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> zerowaitstate: ls -la folder    maybe
[14:45] <reisio> zerowaitstate: yeah, ls should do
[14:45] <reisio> od6: you could also argue that mostly only existing older devs count on any distro :)
[14:46] <reisio> od6: it's not the funnest thing to try to do regardless of distro
[14:46] <reisio> but
[14:46] <reisio> if you like Gentoo and hate trying to contribute, maybe try exherbo
[14:46] <reisio> they're into that
[14:46] <zerowaitstate> reisio: I can see basic unix permissions, but not the getgid bit
[14:46] <zerowaitstate> reisio: I can see basic unix permissions, but not the setgid bit, sorry
[14:47] <od6> i also think ubuntu documentation is not great such as gentoo wiki or especially archlinux wiki
[14:47] <reisio> zerowaitstate: getfacl, maybe, then
[14:47] <od6> and i don't like adware
[14:47] <reisio> or your FS might not be mounted the way you desire
[14:48] <reisio> od6: their approach is different, though
[14:48] <reisio> sort of a pointless comparison
[14:48] <jamie572> hi I have an unusual question about .deb files
[14:48] <zerowaitstate> reisio: ah, that was it, thanks
[14:48] <reisio> jamie572: prove it
[14:48] <reisio> zerowaitstate: which was?
[14:48] <od6> i am a desktop user, and sometimes i think gentoo is too powerful for my needs
[14:48] <reisio> od6: oh it is
[14:49] <ztane> hi
[14:49] <reisio> one time I was using Gentoo and I accidentally destroyed the universe
[14:49] <reisio> thank gebus for CTRL+z
[14:49] <reisio> ztane: ohio
[14:49] <ztane> what is this /sbin/init doing with --user switch, and why does it need to eat with my cpu :D
[14:49] <jamie572> if I have a .deb file and I want to know what version of ubuntu it was built on, how can I, by looking at the file?  The context is that I am looking at a possible bug on a 10.04 machine but I suspect it is due to the .deb being built on 12.04.  But I'd like to be sure
[14:49] <ztane> *s/with//
[14:50] <od6> another thing i don't really like is the fact that ubuntu uses many gnome apps such as evince, gedit, etc., but doesn't use the full gnome DE
[14:50] <od6> but i'm not sure i want to use gnome
[14:50] <reisio> jamie572: probably with something from dpkg -L dpkg | grep bin
[14:50] <reisio> jamie572: 'strings' could also potentially give you some quick jumble of info
[14:51] <jamie572> reisio: thanks, there isn't anything more specific than that?
[14:51] <reisio> jamie572: I'm sure there is :)
[14:51] <ztane> ofc this could be related to the fact that my root sees 0% free space hmm
[14:52] <jamie572> reisio: thanks for your help
[14:52] <reisio> jamie572: dpkg-deb maybe? :)
[14:53] <od6> i have difficulties accepting software mixing
[14:53] <jamie572> reisio: ah dpkg-deb might have a magic flag.  I'll have a play, thanks for that
[14:53] <od6> it's hard in the linux world
[14:53] <ikonia> od6: do you have something to discuss that is on topic for #ubuntu - the ubuntu support channel ?
[14:53] <od6> ikonia, i'm not sure
[14:54] <ikonia> od6: , so please be aware of the topic / usage of this channel, and have a think about if what you are saying fits into it
[14:54] <od6> ok i'm offended.
[14:54] <od6> i leave
[14:54] <od6> bye
[14:54] <jhutchins> Such loss.
[14:55] <webfox_> When I try to upgrade packages with apt-get this error occurs : https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9809334. Could someone help me figure how to fix that please?
[14:57] <Kerdel> hey
[14:58] <reisio> heyo
[14:58] <SonikkuAmerica_> ProjectHardcore: Hi, welcome to #ubuntu ! This is the official Ubuntu support channel on IRC, do you have a support question?
[14:58] <ProjectHardcore> Not especially me, but a friend of mine got some trouble
[14:58] <ProjectHardcore> he installed (dual boot) ubuntu beside an existing windows installation and want windows back now
[14:59] <ProjectHardcore> what is the easiest solution?
[15:00] <dnovosel> ProjectHardcore: Is windows still accessible?
[15:00] <BassVI_96> I did a Search for firefox in File System, and there's 5 different folders named Firefox/firefox?
[15:00] <ProjectHardcore> I don't think so, I think he did something wrong at the installation
[15:00] <SonikkuAmerica> ProjectHardcore: Pop the GRUB menu up on his machine.
[15:00] <ProjectHardcore> with shift at boot right?
[15:00] <SonikkuAmerica> ProjectHardcore: Yeah
[15:01] <webfox_> When I try to upgrade packages with apt-get this error occurs : https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9809334. Could someone help me figure how to fix that please?
[15:01] <ProjectHardcore> I told him so, he is going to try it tonight
[15:01] <ProjectHardcore> Then he should look for an older windows installation or something like that right?
[15:01] <SonikkuAmerica> webfox_: Check your locale settings (Region and Language)
[15:02] <SonikkuAmerica> ProjectHardcore: He should look for an entry that says "Windows... (on /dev/whateverpartition)
[15:02] <SonikkuAmerica> "
[15:03] <ProjectHardcore> SonnikkuAmeric, ok ill tell him about it , thanks ;)
[15:03] <SonikkuAmerica> ProjectHardcore: Does his computer have a Windows 8 logo on it?
[15:04] <ProjectHardcore> SonnikkuAmerica, I think it's an windows 7 installation without UEFI and secureboot
[15:04] <ProjectHardcore> SonnikkuAmerica, so it should be ok (i think)
[15:05] <Corvette> So I've water cooled my Ubuntu PC and I'm worried about what will happen if ever the pumps should fail. The machine is on 24/7, so let's say a pump fails and the chip gets toasty, will Ubuntu shut the machine down by itself?
[15:06] <ProjectHardcore> Corvette, i think your hardware (cpu) should do that
[15:06] <Corvette> ProjectHardcore is that so? So the cpu will tell the mobo to shut down?
[15:06] <cyford> ok  i got it to work with | grep "total time:"
[15:06] <cyford> but  it copies  all total time: 21.3620s
[15:06] <ProjectHardcore> Corvette, but there are some applications which will check your sensors and shutdown at a specific temperature
[15:07] <cyford>   i only want the numbers  for caculation
[15:07] <ProjectHardcore> Corvette, Do you use an intel cpu or amd?
[15:07] <Corvette> ProjectHardcore could you name a few of those applications? I use am AMD Phenom II X6
[15:07] <cyford> 21.3620
[15:07] <ProjectHardcore> Corvette, I think lsensor can do that
[15:07] <Corvette> ProjectHardcore I'll look into that
[15:07] <ProjectHardcore> Corvette, not sure btw
[15:08] <ProjectHardcore> Corvette, but it's worth a shot