[08:36] <wp> .
 For the Lubuntu developers in here
 friday I upgraded to Lubuntu 21.04
 I'm so happy with the new kernel
 I can read the speed of the case fans, I can read the cpu temp and I can use nvtop without the gpu drivers being uninstalled
 the icons are better
 thank you so much for all the work!
 +1👍🏼 (re @Michaël: For the Lubuntu developers in here
 friday I upgraded to Lubuntu 21.04
 I'm so happy with the new kernel
 I can read the speed of the case fans, I can read the cpu temp and I can use nvtop without the gpu drivers being uninstalled
 the icons are better
 thank you so much for all the work!)
[15:39] <kc2bez[m]> These are good reports to hear, thanks for the feedback and glad things are working better.
[15:47] <krytarik> Multi-line quoting, huh.. :3
[16:54] <deepleo> g


[02:45] <ubuntu157> anyone watching the channel?
[08:43] <ikonia> we really need to do something better with the links the !theme factoid and the !nvidia factoids point at
[08:43] <ikonia> I wonder if we can do something better with the ubuntu-docs team
[15:03] <ubuntu090> I stopped once I saw a warning
[15:03] <bazhang> and just removed
[15:04] <ubuntu090> no problem, should I just go back, I recognoze why.
[15:04] <bazhang> of course, just dont respond to jusic, we can handle him
 好的，谢谢Djones
[16:30] <bazhang> haode, = ok
[23:22] <valorie> ops in #ubuntu-women please -- I'm currently having a screen problem
[23:22] <valorie> but clitcommander is in there
[23:23] <valorie> meanwhile I need to log out I think


[01:14] <InHisName> nice 'song', Sadin  - seems its not out until the 24th.
[01:21] <InHisName> It is $8.99 at their site or $1.29/track from itunes.  I can play whole tracks at their site.
[01:25] <InHisName> Sadin: what is your website addy ?
[02:55] <Sadin> InHisName im rebuilding it
[02:55] <Sadin> atm
[02:56] <Sadin> just got back from the new sherlock holems movie
[02:56] <Sadin> gah my spelling
[02:56] <Sadin> InHisName why do you ask?
[11:23] <JonathanD> Morning.
[11:28] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[11:36] <JonathanD> Hey rmg51
[13:26] <waltman> Morning.
[16:58] <Sadin> hey guys :D
[17:07] <rmg51> o/
[18:10] <MutantTurkey> hey
[18:10] <MutantTurkey> I finally got a legit gig last night
[18:15] <MutantTurkey> http://imgur.com/gg716
[18:15] <MutantTurkey> :-)
[18:39] <ChinnoDog> turkey tunes
[18:43] <MutantTurkey> exactly
[19:36] <MutantTurkey> lol my .xsession-errors was like 4.9 gig
[19:36] <MutantTurkey> talk about great
[19:36] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: could you symlink .xsession-errors to /dev/null?
[19:36] <MutantTurkey> would that work?
[19:36] <MutantTurkey> file redirect to a device?
[19:40] <MutantTurkey> wonder how many lines it is
[19:41] <MutantTurkey> 9046263
[19:58] <jedijf> correct the errors seems better
[20:01] <jedijf> or a rm cron
[20:01] <jedijf> monthly, just in case
[20:07] <MutantTurkey> perhaps
[21:14] <InHisName> church done, I'm back
[21:15] <InHisName> MutantTurkey: is that a turkey wing sticking out of the back of your head.?
[21:17] <MutantTurkey> whut
[21:17] <MutantTurkey> church until 4pm?
[21:18] <MutantTurkey> im out by like 11:30
[21:18] <MutantTurkey> InHisName: an eagle wing i think
[21:19] <InHisName> Loooonnnggg dinner / social after today.
[21:19] <MutantTurkey> ah
[21:20] <InHisName> if only it was a turkey wing, to fit the mood better.
[21:20] <InHisName> Then you'd have a tru MutantTurkey look.
[21:22] <MutantTurkey> lol I know
[22:23] <MutantTurkey> where is there published a C++ documentation like C has readilty available for stdlib?


[00:33] <gv_> uptime
[15:06] <nils__> hello, who deals with the xorg.conf manpage?
[15:06] <nils__> because there's a formatting error with the Option "PreferredMode" section
[15:07] <nils__> it looks like it's part of the Option "Primary" section


[12:27] <teward> so https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1979917 is tagge
[12:27] <teward> marked as security bug.  should we do a security upload patch or just SRU?
[12:27] <teward> also i hate typing on phones >.<
[12:29] <amurray> teward: hmm in general we prefer to suggest in these cases to get CVEs assigned then we can just follow the usual process (which I see you have already done) - but an SRU would also be okay (although it wouldn't end up in the security pocket without special attention)
[12:30] <teward> amurray: i havent gone the cve issuance route nor checked if one was issued
[12:30] <teward> i have enough to do without breaking my back with MITRE rules :P
[12:31] <amurray> teward: oh I thought I had seen you ask them if a CVE had been assigned... perhaps I was thinking of some other bug (I wasn't suggesting that you go through that process, more that we suggest to the reported to go and do that)
[12:31] <teward> given fancy_index is not included in the main nginx-core and only default-ships in universe nginx-extras i'm not tooooooo concerned.  yet :P
[12:33] <amurray> ahh ok - I always get confused about packages which have different binaries split across main vs universe
[12:36] <teward> yep
[12:36] <teward> amurray: re: nginx thats a question you can always poke me on :P
[20:29] <ahasenack> sbeattie: hi, I'm doing an nfs-utils merge for kinetic, and while going over bugs I could perhaps close with the update I found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/1918312
[20:29] <ahasenack> I think that is something that should be fixed upstream
[20:30] <ahasenack> if you agree, maybe could you add a comment asking the reporter to try to revive the upstream thread?


 Hey guys, I know I'm not a developer, yet, but I follow along with you because it's aweskme to watch this thread and take in what you talk about as it helps me understand Studio better and programming more in general. … Ovenwerks: Dude, I'm sorry about happened. I'm just catching up on this conversation and I see that someone you w
[00:42] <studiobot> ere with died? Man, if you take hugs and need one, I've got plenty. I'll keep you and your's in my meditation prayers. That's the Buddhist in me.
 I do apologize for bringing this around again, the death of your friend, but you guys are my friends and colleagues and I only wanted to say Rest in Power for your friend and my condolences.


[12:33] <cliebow_> Whoa: last updates healed my wireless card..
[02:19] <sbalneav> Evening all
[02:20] <Burgwork> hey sbalneav
[02:21] <sbalneav> Hello Burgwork
[03:49] <Em`Zee> I'm getting errors with ltsp-build-client...
[03:49] <Em`Zee> root@heidi:~# ltsp-build-client --arch powerpc
[03:49] <Em`Zee> ERROR: --arch powerpc called on unsupported arch: i686,error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
[03:59] <sbalneav> Em`Zee: What are you trying to build it on?
[03:59] <sbalneav> A i386 based machine?
[03:59] <Em`Zee> sbalneav; Yes.... that's bad, I take it.
[03:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> its unsupported ;)
[03:59] <Em`Zee> D'oh.
[03:59] <Em`Zee> Is there any way to boot Sparc/PPC off of an Edubuntu i386 LTSP server ?
[04:00] <sbalneav> Sure
[04:00] <Em`Zee> Basically I'm running a lab with ancient computers, SPARCstations, and pre-Intel Macs.
[04:00] <sbalneav> But you'll need to build the chroots on Sparc/PPC machines respectively
[04:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> <3 sparcstations
[04:00] <Em`Zee> sbalneav; would I just take an edubuntu livecd and basically tar the tree?
[04:00] <sbalneav> Then tarball them up, and stick 'em in /opt/ltsp on the i386
[04:01] <sbalneav> Em`Zee: No, install edubuntu on a sparc, then do the ltsp-build-client on the sparc.
[04:01] <Em`Zee> got it
[04:01] <Em`Zee> Next (probably stupid) question...
[04:01] <Em`Zee> Does it matter, X binary-wise on multiplatform?
[04:01] <sbalneav> At one point, we were talking about having pre-built chroots available for download and untar, don't know if that's been done yet.
[04:01] <Em`Zee> It runs all binaries on the central server, no exceptions, yes?
[04:02] <sbalneav> No! That's one of the beauties of X
[04:02] <sbalneav> Sparc client == PPC client == Intel client, for X
[04:02] <Em`Zee> woo.
[04:02] <Em`Zee> :D
[04:02] <Em`Zee> LTSP saved my life for adminning the lab. LTSP is <3
[04:02] <Em`Zee> Anyways
[04:02] <Em`Zee> when I do the chroots for Sparc and PPC I'll post them on my websie
[04:02] <Em`Zee> *website
[04:03] <sbalneav> Yeah, when you run firefox on a sparc client, you're running the firefox on the i386 box, but the pretty bits display on the sparc.
[04:03] <sbalneav> That's why I got involved in helping to develop LTSP 7 years ago: it's such an awsome paradigm
[04:04] <Em`Zee> My plans eventually include syncing authentication to an LDAP server
[04:04] <Em`Zee> instead of having root@heidi:~# ltsp-build-client --arch powerpc
[04:04] <Em`Zee> ERROR: --arch powerpc called on unsupported arch: i686,error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
[04:04] <Em`Zee> whoops
[04:04] <Em`Zee> hehe stupid clipboard
[04:04] <Em`Zee> anyways, instead of making one account for each machine
[04:04] <Em`Zee> (we name our machines after [not my idea]  porn stars >.<)
[04:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> LMAO
[04:07] <Em`Zee> Yeah so we have "Tawnee Stone", "Tori Stone", "Linda Lovelace", "Heidi Fleiss", "Aurora Snow" all on one wall
[04:07] <Em`Zee> those are some of the LTSP machines
[04:07] <Em`Zee> the windows ones are named after male porn stars
[04:07] <Em`Zee> the Mac ones used to be Transvestites but then we decided to quit supporting mac in the lab
[04:08] <racter> so can i use the live cd to boot a machine in thinclient mode?
[04:08] <racter> the bios on this machine doesn't seem to know about netboot
[04:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> racter, no, but iirc you can do boot floppies
[04:10] <sbalneav> racter: No, but you can go to rom-o-matic.net, and download a etherboot floppy image for your network card.
[04:12] <racter> it has to be floppy or is there a way i can use a CD?
[04:15] <sbalneav> There's CD images there too.
[04:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> :/
[01:10] <cliebow> Em`Zee, i have tarballs for ppc
[06:45] <ernierasta> I have a question, how can I install programs on client (I am using edubuntu 7.04 as ltsp server, server is amd64, but clients i386)? I set up everything, and it is working, but I want to install x11vnc on client. Is there someone who want give me some advices?
[06:46] <ernierasta> it is question about ltsp
[06:47] <merriam> ernierasta: chroot to /opt/ltsp/i386/ or similar.
[06:47] <merriam> But I've done that and I still couldn't make x11vnc work.
[06:48] <ernierasta> merriam: i know, but in chroot apt-get can not find x11vnc
[06:49] <merriam> You need to change the sources...
[06:49] <jgedeon_> ernierasta: this will help  understand sources https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters/LTSPManagement
[06:49] <ernierasta> thank you, i have not much experiences with debian-based distros
[06:51] <cliebow> merriam:i am usiong it alot in 4.2..not sure about 5...you get xlib error?
[06:53] <merriam> cliebow: I've been running edubuntu feisty beta with defaults.  I forget the details.  I've switched to ubuntu on that box for now because I couldn't log in on the server with edubuntu.
[06:56] <merriam> I'm not the only one, am I?  When I log in on the server I get serious errors and long waits, and the panel doesn't respond.  ltsp clients work nicely.
[06:57] <cliebow> gnome-settings-maNAGER?
[06:57] <cliebow> error?
[06:58] <cliebow> anyway..you can read my x11vnc stuff for 4.2 if you like
[06:58] <merriam> I think so.  But it seems there are more serious problems.
[06:59] <Em`Zee> cliebow; Did you say you had a tarred chroot for ppc?
[07:01] <cliebow> i do
[07:02] <cliebow> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ powerpc.feisty.tar.gz
[07:02] <cliebow> and  powerpckernel.feisty.tar.gz
[07:03] <cliebow> i think you'll have to add the yaboot bits
[07:07] <Em`Zee> yaboot?
[07:07] <cliebow> the kernel loader for ppc
[07:08] <cliebow> not unlike pxe;linox.0
[07:09] <cliebow> yeah it is n there..place yaboot and yaboot.conf in /var/lib/tftpboot and point to ya boot in dhcpd.conf
[07:11] <Em`Zee> How do you make the macs netboot anyways?
[07:11] <Em`Zee> Is there a key to hit?
[07:12] <cliebow> if security-mode=none hit the n key..how old are these?they Do haave open firmware right?
[07:13] <cliebow> Em`Zee, http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/CpuArchitectures
[07:14] <Em`Zee> cliebow; We're talking like 400MhZ G3s
[07:26] <cliebow> as long as cmd-opt-o-f  brings up opfw
[07:27] <cliebow> ealy ones..like bo ndis may require a reservation
[08:43] <sbalneav> Afternoon all
[08:52] <juliux> hi sbalneav
[08:53] <sbalneav> Hello juliux
[10:05] <knix_> Has network-manager been fixed yet in feisty?
[10:06] <sbalneav> not sure
[10:06] <knix_> sbalneav, ty
[10:07] <sbalneav> Not yet, apparently.  My static interface still isn't up :)
[10:07] <knix_> sbalneav, hehe i hear ya,  ty
[11:24] <racter_> is there a way to burn one of these rom-o-matic.net boot floppies onto a CD?
[11:30] <cliebow> 1bootfloppy
[11:31] <cliebow> !bootfloppy
[11:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:31] <sohail> anyone have any suggestion on how to teach drawing a triangle in logo without introducing trig?
[11:32] <cliebow>  cliebow: "bootfloppy" is http://etherboot.anadex.de or ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/Universal_boot_flopp
[11:32] <cliebow> hmmm
[11:33] <cliebow> should be a univgersal boot cd..