[12:00] <Jinkguns> fortino@fortino-laptop:~/modified$ "mkdir smaller; for i in *.jpg; do convert "$i" -resize 256x256 smaller/"$i";"
[12:00] <Jinkguns> bash: mkdir smaller; for i in *.jpg; do convert  -resize 256x256 smaller/;: No such file or directory
[12:00] <tanek> mwe: id rather have one, since its working smoother
[12:00] <Jinkguns> I'm getting closer. :D
[12:00] <nickrud> teppic, install the kernel you want specifically, and uninstall linux-<arch> and linux-image-<arch>
[12:00] <caHEk> hi, where can i download Opera browzer for Ubuntu amdx64 kernel?
[12:00] <tonyyarusso> MdSalih: grep
[12:00] <MdSalih> thanks
[12:00] <tanek> mwe: ye, i know, and thats why i asked for help doing that :P
[12:00] <mwe> tanek: ok. what exactly isn't working?
[12:00] <tanek> i dont get 3d support
[12:01] <mwe> tanek: did you dl the fglrx source and try compiling it?
[12:01] <Iam8up> SurfnKid - does xubuntu have a nice gui to where i can add an smb share easily?
[12:01] <Latino> k, in kde you can set a couple of backgrounds and it will switch itself by a determinated time, can gnome do that?
[12:01] <caHEk> hi, where can i download Opera browzer for Ubuntu amdx64 kernel?
[12:01] <SurfnKid> smb?
[12:01] <SurfnKid> oh
[12:01] <SurfnKid> yeah
[12:01] <tanek> mwe: i downloaded it, thats as far as i got
[12:01] <SurfnKid> its just as easy as the gnome style
[12:01] <nickrud> Jinkguns, no beginning or ending quotes ;)
[12:01] <mwe> tanek: what exactly did you download, what package?
[12:02] <Jinkguns> nick
[12:02] <Latino> if it doesn't kde is owning gnome on that
[12:02] <Jinkguns> without the quotes
[12:02] <Jinkguns> I just get a >
[12:02] <Jinkguns> nickrud,
[12:02] <SurfnKid> Iam8up: i definitely dont have any problems on it. but i try not to run too much on it, so its an irc box only. the rest of my stuff is on another ISPline
[12:02] <tanek> fglrx-module-source or somtehing
[12:02] <Slyboots> Well the system doesnte crash, the display just blanks out..
[12:02] <Slyboots> Everything else goes on per normal
[12:02] <mwe> tanek: huh? from ati.com?
[12:02] <shadok`> Hello linxu's g33k
[12:02] <caHEk> on the official site just i386 (
[12:02] <teppic> Is debian "Pin" in /etc/apt/preferences honoured by "Software Updates"?
[12:02] <Iam8up> SurfnKid - gotcha
[12:02] <tanek> mwe: from apt
[12:03] <nickrud> Jinkguns, ah, add done to the end .
[12:03] <mwe> tanek: I don't know about that. I got it of ati.com and used that
[12:03] <caHEk> www.opera.com
[12:03] <Jinkguns> excellent
[12:03] <nickrud> Jinkguns, I saw the quotes, and quit.
[12:03] <tanek> i can get that to then mwe
[12:04] <caHEk> on the www.opera.com just i386 kernel
[12:04] <zenit> caHEk: I guess you might have to set up a chroot then
[12:04] <caHEk> where can i download Opera browzer for Ubuntu amdx64 kernel?
[12:04] <nickrud> teppic, yes
[12:04] <mwe> tanek: at least that's what I did. get the driver installer
[12:04] <teppic> nickrud: Thanks.
[12:04] <nickrud> teppic, works just the same
[12:04] <teppic> nickrud: kernel -25 is killing me, and I keep getting caught out with software updates :-)
[12:05] <Jinkguns> I love you guys.
[12:05] <caHEk> then i try to innstall - system say yor system iz not supported
[12:05] <DrKevorkian> i'm having problems getting firefox to produce audio
[12:05] <Jinkguns> Now, why the hell dosen't someone write a damn GUI for that?!?!
[12:05] <teppic> nickrud: Get a stable system going, "la de da - software updates" - Oh holy smurf!
[12:05] <tanek> mwe: i got that one, but no kernel module
[12:05] <smahoney> Hi all - anyone got any experiences with nVidia freezes when renderaccel is set to true?
[12:05] <_Spire_> Jinkguns: gui for what?
[12:05] <SurfnKid> excuse my lack of complete understanding (otherwise called ignorance) but how is a kernel built, and compiled with so many drivers, devices, control modules, chipsets etc
[12:05] <nickrud> teppic, iirc having either linux-image-<arch> or linux-<arch> is what pulls in the new kernels, with out those no new kernels
[12:05] <mwe> tanek: the package will compile one when you run it
[12:06] <woodwizzle> argh... i've never had so much trouble with video drivers before.   Surely you need to exclude them using prefs rather than include them?
[12:06] <mwe> tanek: chmod +x <very long name>.run && sudo ./<very long name>.run
[12:06] <woodwizzle> SurfnKid: Dapper
[12:06] <SurfnKid> woodwizzle: oh yes, good luck
[12:06] <mwe> tanek: that worked for me
[12:06] <nickrud> teppic, uninstall those packages
[12:06] <tanek> done that
[12:06] <Jinkguns> _Spire_, using imagemagick to convert many files to a smaller size.
[12:06] <woodwizzle> I can't get ATI, Radeon, or FGLRX to work at all
[12:06] <tanek> and aticonfig
[12:07] <SurfnKid> woodwizzle: On breezy now, installed in a Zap... Dapper took too much time, and didnt get anywhere
[12:07] <Api984> hello again
[12:07] <Api984> i got a XINE problem
[12:07] <mwe> tanek: what happened?
[12:07] <teppic> nickrud: It wasn't an option.  It's a problem with the initupdate script.  There's bug reports all over the place for it.
[12:07] <someluser> can anyone tell me how to get a dual-head set up with different resolutions on an nvidia GPU?
[12:07] <tanek> it installed, mwe
[12:07] <Api984> video doesnt work like it should..
[12:07] <nickrud> teppic, ah, overriding apt. evil
[12:07] <woodwizzle> SurfnKid: Yeah, i had 3D accelleration and everything fine on breezy. Now I'm fighting just to get X to start
[12:07] <Api984> PM me if you can help me on XINE
[12:08] <mwe> tanek: didn't it give you an option of creating a .deb?
[12:08] <teppic> nickrud: Uninstall wasn't clean.  Hence clean box again.  Luckily, I had over only just upped from 5.10 to dapper, it was a clean(ish) box to start from.
[12:08] <mwe> tanek: or what did it install if not?
[12:08] <mwe> tanek: modprobe -l|grep fglrx is the module there?
[12:08] <tanek> i just ran the package
[12:08] <mwe> yes.
[12:08] <darich> arrrgh fglrx
[12:08] <SurfnKid> woodwizzle: ouch, you can always set it to vesa
[12:08] <darich> hate it
[12:09] <Slyboots> Anyone here used Xmame with the Dapper drake release?
[12:09] <darich> latest version on Dapper doesn't work properly at all
[12:09] <jbirdAngel> easy and quick way to convert mp3 to ogg? and is it legal to download an mp3 conver to ogg and then listen to it?
[12:09] <tanek> not there
[12:09] <jbirdAngel> and hello
[12:09] <mwe> tanek: it didn't prompt you or anything?
[12:09] <woodwizzle> SurfnKid: Thats what it is set to now, but Vesa doesn't support widescreen resolutions it seems :(
[12:09] <tanek> no
[12:09] <Api984> XINE can't see my installed codecs
[12:09] <gan|y|med> hello
[12:09] <sryan> How would one change the name of their local machine?
[12:09] <woodwizzle> This is on a laptop btw. I'd just go buy an nvidia card if this were a desktop =)
[12:09] <Api984> can anyone help on this matter
[12:09] <darich> I have the same problem woodwizzle
[12:09] <erUSUL> jbirdAngel: sound-converter (conversion between two loosy formats is a bad idea though)
[12:10] <DrKevorkian> Can anyone help me with this? I've got everything to work in firefox except that it won't produce any audio for anything. I'm not really having audio problems anywhere else
[12:10] <mwe> tanek: I'd get the rpm and run alien on it to create a .deb then. after that run the install scripts manually. I did that once as well
[12:10] <IsDis4Me> hello
[12:10] <teppic> sryan: /etc/hostname
[12:10] <sryan> that's all I have to edit, teppic ?
[12:10] <teppic> sryan: I possibly tell a lie, that's Gentoo.
[12:10] <someluser> can anyone tell me how to get a dual-head set up with different resolutions on an nvidia GPU?
[12:10] <SurfnKid> woodwizzle: mmm my original clean setup had vesa, and was a wide screen laptop, no gaps or any space top or bottom. was nice. but GL was still dead, until i installed the ATI drivers and it came up fine
[12:10] <Api984> can someone help me a little bit
[12:10] <woodwizzle> The worst part of it is if I would have waited a couple months to buy this laptop the new model comes with an Nvidia chip instead
[12:10] <SurfnKid> :P
[12:10] <tanek> mwe: sounds kinda hard
[12:10] <gan|y|med> where can i find streaming information (audio/video streams)? are there servers or sth. or can i scan so that i don't have to find all the streams myself via google?
[12:10] <IsDis4Me> how is it going?
[12:10] <nickrud> sryan, /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[12:11] <sryan> ah thanks.
[12:11] <theeil> how do i get both my laptop monitor and generic plug in monitor working at the same time on my (dell inspiron) laptop?
[12:11] <mwe> tanek: it's not.
[12:11] <woodwizzle> SurfnKid: really? I just added my resolution to xorg.conf but vesa seems to ignore it
[12:11] <tanek> mwe: thing is i got a .run not rpm
[12:11] <teppic> someluser: Break it out of the nvidia propreity, use the nv driver instead, enable Xinerama, and assign a different top res to each screen.  Don't forget to use screen 0 and screen 1 to define the different device configurations.
[12:11] <mwe> tanek: get the xorg 6.8 rpm and sudo alien file.rpm. install alien first if you don't have it
[12:12] <mwe> tanek: then sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[12:12] <someluser> teppic, i need gl on those screens, also is there a guide for xinerama you can point me to?
[12:12] <teppic> someluser: If you need gl, you're screwed.
[12:13] <someluser> teppic: that sucks
[12:13] <teppic> someluser: As soon as you stop using the propreitry you'll need to lose DRI, and as such, you'll end up losing GL.
[12:13] <someluser> teppic: is there no way to do it with twinview?
[12:13] <teppic> someluser: not with differing resolutions.
[12:14] <someluser> teppic; darn
[12:14] <teppic> someluser: Twinview simply displays as a unified desktop.
[12:14] <teppic> someluser: It uses a Xinerama "emulation" if you will.
[12:14] <DShepherd> can totem play flash files?
[12:14] <teppic> someluser: Do you need dual mon & xinerama at the same time?
[12:14] <teppic> sorry, dual mon & gl?
[12:14] <someluser> teppic: could I run two seperate x sessions and link them?
[12:15] <teppic> messily.
[12:15] <teppic> what's your intention?
[12:15] <Lohn> Hello all! How to configure network by console? There is such tool like network-admin???
[12:15] <Blissex> Lohn: 'man ifup' and 'man interfaces'
[12:15] <OneSeventeen> how do I skip 25GB of data when using dd?  perhaps dd if=/dev/sda2 skip=25G
[12:15] <someluser> to run a presentation app that runs on two screens
[12:15] <mwe> tanek: download the rpm and convert and install it. then go to /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod and sudo sh make.sh. then cd .. and sudo sh make_install.sh and the module should be installed
[12:15] <teppic> Lohn: ifconfig
[12:15] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: something like that.
[12:16] <Lohn> Blissex, teppic This way isn't so friendly... there is really no tool like redhat netcardconfig?
[12:16] <vanberge> would anybody be willing to take a stab at helping me get RSS feeds to download in thunderbird?  Something is wrong for sure
[12:16] <ktogias> LVM on Dapper: I run 'pvcreate /dev/hda3'. It says that the physical volume is succesfully created. Then I run 'vgcreate data /dev/hda3' and I get 'No physical volume label read from /dev/hda3, /dev/hda3 not identified as an existing physical volume' and it fails. What am I doing wrong??
[12:16] <someluser> teppic: i need to run a presentation program in wine and it runs on two screens
[12:17] <Blissex> Lohn: yes, there is one, something like 'netconfig'
[12:17] <tanek> mwe: ok
[12:17] <mwe> tanek: it's not that hard
[12:17] <tanek> mwe: ill try, thx
[12:17] <teppic> someluser: I'm curious since you don't get gl in windows on two screens...
[12:18] <someluser> teppic: really? i didn't notice
[12:18] <OneSeventeen> Blissex I used dd if=/dev/sda2 | split -b 1024m and I have 25 complete files and 1 semi-complete file, so could I just do the same but skip=25G?  (I want to be sure I'm exact, since I'm splitting binary data)
[12:18] <[Wiebel] > hi
[12:18] <OneSeventeen> Or is there a way to do a comparison of the first MB of two files, to see if they start the same?
[12:18] <[Wiebel] > how can i mount a .bin/.cue file?
[12:18] <teppic> someluser: limitation of the windowing mech.  it's resolved in Vista, but still knackered in XP.  If you want dual-head gl, you'll need a commercial x server.
[12:19] <someluser> teppic: it uses directx for transition effects, maybe it'll run withought gl...
[12:19] <erUSUL> [Wiebel] : convert them to an iso file
[12:19] <teppic> wine uses dx -> gl.
[12:19] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: both... Check carefully in 'man dd' what the various size suffixes mean. For example skip=25000m and 25G
[12:19] <teppic> Still confused as to why it needs the two outputs.
[12:19] <someluser> that's what i thought
[12:19] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: you can also use 'cmp' or another binary comparators.
[12:19] <[Wiebel] > eternale1: how?
[12:20] <Weirdbro> Has anyone noticed large dropdown menu's messing up?
[12:20] <mnk> rasult: hi
[12:20] <gnomefreak> Weirdbro: in what?
[12:20] <teppic> Is the second output a clone of the first (different game...) or is it a seperate screen?
[12:20] <someluser> teppic; it needs two outputs because the projector is one head and the controls for the presentation app are on the main screen
[12:20] <erUSUL> OneSeventeen: extract with dd the 2 MB of each file to two tmp files then use md5sum or sh1sum
[12:20] <DaveyJ> hell
[12:20] <DaveyJ> o
[12:20] <Weirdbro> gnomefreak- Everywhere. The widget seems to be scrolled down way too far
[12:20] <rasult> mnk, hello
[12:21] <DaveyJ> quick question.. i'm about to format my old windows drive to ext3... however its the drive with the boot info on it
[12:21] <mnk> rasult: how's ur experience with ubuntu? u like? :)
[12:21] <gnomefreak> Weirdbro: no i havent but is it in ff? or desktop?
[12:21] <DaveyJ> when i format it, is it going to kill the bootsector?
[12:21] <OneSeventeen> Blissex/erUSUL thanks, that helps a ton!
[12:21] <teppic> someluser: In which case, you may be in luck.  You may be able to do it with the proprietry driver and xinerama.  I *think* you may lose DRI but retain gl through the second head.
[12:21] <vanberge> god dangit!  even when i add a new rss subsription to thunderbird, it just sits there and says "verifying feed"... it wont actually get anywhere
[12:21] <someluser> teppic: that's good
[12:21] <Weirdbro> gnomefreak-Open gedit, preferences, syntax highlighting, highlight mode
[12:22] <CurtisB> DaveyJ - great question... I'm considering doing the same... my guess is make a grub boot floppy foir a start
[12:22] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: however, usually explain what you are trying to achieve, not just ask questions on the details of how you think it should be done...
[12:22] <someluser> teppic: got a guide?
[12:22] <teppic> someluser: To give you context, I've managed to do it with a SIS 6326, nVidia GeForce 2MX and ATI@Work card before now.
[12:22] <rasult> hi every1, i'm a newby, just installed ubuntu today!!!
[12:22] <mnk> rasult: congratulaions :)
[12:22] <DaveyJ> CurtisB, how do i go about doing that?
[12:22] <Weirdbro> rasult: Good job
[12:22] <teppic> someluser: I wish.  Google for some of the slightly older xinerama/nvidia tutorials, pre-twinview.  They should detail it.
[12:22] <CurtisB> DaveyJ - hang-on, I'll see if I can figure it out
[12:22] <gnomefreak> Weirdbro: ah ok
[12:22] <dooglus> vanberge: thunderbird isn't really really for primetime as far as I can tell.
[12:22] <CurtisB> !bootdisk
[12:22] <someluser> teppic: thanks a lot, you rock
[12:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about bootdisk
[12:23] <erUSUL> OneSeventeen: no problem
[12:23] <teppic> someluser: Some of the generic ones should help as well.  You effectively treat it with two device entries.
[12:23] <Weirdbro> gnomefreak- see what I mean? It is also happening in gaim beta 3, so it isn't just gedit
[12:23] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: good point, I complain about users doing that all the time yet here I am =P
[12:23] <XHK> Does ubuntu have some sort of firewall too or something that could block ports. aMule says I have lowid, but in windows I have highid with the same port.
[12:23] <rasult> i feel like a traitor to windows!!!...But I'm sure I'll get over it!
[12:23] <dooglus> XHK: it does, but it's disabled by default
[12:23] <teppic> someluser: set one as screen 0 and the other as screen 1.  Once you've got that going, if you're *lucky* you'll be able to keep gl on the primary screen).
[12:23] <gnomefreak> Weirdbro: i cant gnome is not installable on this pc
[12:23] <dooglus> rasult: don't feel any allegance to Microsoft - they feel none to you
[12:24] <someluser> teppic: sweet, you got another IM screen that I can reach you at?
[12:24] <Weirdbro> gnomefreak- And in gaim beta 3, the menu is short. No reason be be scrolled down
[12:24] <vanberge> dooglus: well, yesterday this function worked fine.
[12:24] <Weirdbro> gnomefreak- Gnome not installable?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Weirdbro: nope no gnome for a while :(
[12:24] <pequatre> hi. can anyone help me with cups ? i'm almost done configuring my printer but i get an error message: "Warning: LPP_Init() failed! Waiting 2 seconds..." in the terminal
[12:24] <dooglus> vanberge: hmmm.  could it be that the feed is down?
[12:24] <eigenlambda> Weirdbro: i bet thats 'cause gnomefreak is running on windows
[12:24] <XHK> dooglus, Do you have any idea what more could block ports?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> eigenlambda: nope
[12:25] <eigenlambda> freebsd?
[12:25] <kaur> hi! I need help. For some strange reason, my system is unable to authenticate any updates. There are no keys in software properties-->authentication. What to do?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> im running on a broken edgy
[12:25] <dooglus> XHK: your router?  you set up port forwarding to your Windows IP and ubuntu is using a different internal IP?
[12:25] <Weirdbro> eigenlamda: I'm running ubuntu on windows vmware, so meh. He could if he wanted to
[12:25] <vanberge> dooglus: neg.  it is slashdot
[12:25] <dooglus> XHK: run "ifconfig" to see your internal IP
[12:25] <Jinkguns> thanks
[12:25] <XHK> dooglus, hmn ok
[12:25] <CurtisB> DaveyJ - do you have a live CD?  Looks like you can wipe WinBlows, boot from the live CD, then do: sudo grub-install /dev/hdX (where X is the device node of the disk to put grub on....)
[12:25] <Weirdbro> gnomefreak- Why on earth would you try edgy out this early?
[12:25] <nickrud> kaur, !easysources has instructions for getting & installing repo signing keys, see next
[12:26] <nickrud> !easysources
[12:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about easysources
[12:26] <nickrud> !easysource
[12:26] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:26] <dooglus> gnomefreak: can you install ubuntu-desktop on edgy yet?
[12:26] <DaveyJ> =/ i'm not really into experimenting lol
[12:26] <gnomefreak> Weirdbro: i test
[12:26] <gnomefreak> dooglus: no
[12:26] <nickrud> no insults?!
[12:26] <gnomefreak> dooglus: no edubuntu no ubuntu no gnome
[12:26] <dooglus> gnomefreak: me either
[12:26] <Weirdbro> gnomefreak- Ah.
[12:26] <DaveyJ> i'm running ubuntu off a partition on the same drive as the windows partition
[12:26] <dooglus> gnomefreak: xubuntu-desktop is ok though, right?
[12:26] <gnomefreak> those were the 3 i tried
[12:26] <gnomefreak> dooglus: yep
[12:26] <DaveyJ> i'm trying to make the windows partition ext3 so i can use it for storage with ubuntu
[12:26] <DaveyJ> eek i gotta go to class
[12:26] <CurtisB> DaveyJ - I'm looking at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200374&highlight=boot+disk
[12:27] <gnomefreak> i have e17 built from cvs i have xfce kde and gnustep
[12:27] <gnomefreak> those are fine as of right now
[12:27] <CurtisB> okay c ya! good luck
[12:27] <DaveyJ> www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D35087%26page%3D2+backup+grub+bootloader&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=4
[12:27] <DaveyJ> theres another one that might be of use
[12:27] <DaveyJ> :) i'll check when i get back
[12:27] <DaveyJ> peace
[12:27] <erUSUL> DaveyJ: it is easy mkfs.ext3 -O dir_index /dev/hdxx (where hdxx is the win partition)
[12:27] <tuxx> Evening. What kernel is used in Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[12:27] <dooglus> is it possible to use the freenx client as a gdm session instead of gnome, xfce, or KDE?
[12:27] <robert_> how do I ensure ipv4 is forwarded through my ubuntu server?
[12:28] <erUSUL> tuxx: 2.6.15
[12:28] <OneSeventeen> does using the "skip" feature in dd take a while if I'm skip over a GB of data?
[12:28] <dibblego> how do I turn off the system beep when auto-completing at the bash command line?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> dooglus: are you on 2.6.15? and ubuntu-desktop isnt installable?
[12:28] <tanek>  mwe, getting error kernel includes at /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-ubuntu1-tanek/build/include not found or incomplete when doing sh make
[12:28] <erUSUL> tuxx: 2.6.15 modified by the ubuntu kernel manteiner (Ben Collins iirc)
[12:28] <tuxx> erUSUL thanks. I'd hoped for .17
[12:29] <gnomefreak> erUSUL: iirc ben is the kernel master ;)
[12:29] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I'm running 2.6.16-2 at the moment, but the kernel you're running has no impact on which packages are installable.
[12:29] <kaur> nickrud: what do u mean by "!easysources"?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> dooglus: i would think it would if it was messed up im not on 2.6.15
[12:30] <XHK> dooglus, actually I dont have router. Anyway, where can I see if there's ubuntu firewall enabled and foward ports?
[12:30] <nickrud> kaur, see the stuff kicked out when you type !easysource (no s) in the channel. It's a well educated bot
[12:30] <dooglus> XHK: "iptables -L" will list the firewall rules.
[12:30] <nickrud> !easysource
[12:30] <rpedro> !easysource
[12:30] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:30] <Lohn> Blissex, i cant found netconfig or anything like it
[12:30] <kaur> !easysources
[12:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about easysources
[12:30] <erUSUL> dooglus: i run <IP_ADDRESS> tried 2.6.17 but the ralink driver dose not compile anymore against 2.6.17 so i'm stuck in the stone age XD
[12:30] <dooglus> XHK: that's "sudo iptables -L"
[12:30] <kaur> !easysource
[12:30] <OneSeventeen> I am doing the following: "sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 skip=25GB | split -b 1024m" and it doesn't seem to be doing anything... does it just take a while to skip?
[12:30] <XHK> dooglus, ok thx for help
[12:31] <Blissex> Lohn: I'll have a look, I uised it a long time ago.
[12:31] <nickrud> kaur, and you can open a message window with ubotu (it's listed in the user list) and ask a lot there
[12:31] <Lohn> Blissex, thanks!
[12:31] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: it does take a long time, it reads the whole 25G
[12:31] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: check 'vmstat 1' the 'bi' column to see it reading...
[12:31] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: I wouldn't think it would take any time at all to 'skip'
[12:31] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: eew... that's the whole reason I didn't want to do that, but then again, I guess it needs to if it wants to be accurate
[12:32] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: disk partitions are 'random access'
[12:32] <CurtisB>  <-- Still banging my head against the wall trying to get ALSA snd-mia to work with my Echo Mia under dapper -- it worked okay in 5.10... help please!
[12:32] <trappist> is there a metapackage that depends on apache2, php5, openssl, etc. for setting up a secure php5 webserver?
[12:32] <Flippy209> hey ic56 I got mp3's playing :)
[12:32] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: 'dd' is designed to work with things like tapes which cannot be randomly positioned.
[12:32] <ic56> Flippy209: congrats!
[12:32] <_NicK> mas o endereo q vou usar estah na forma ssh.nome.ufpe.br
[12:32] <Flippy209> and world of warcraft :)
[12:32] <nickrud> !br
[12:32] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[12:33] <ic56> Flippy209: oh oh!  You won't be getting much work done... :-)
[12:33] <Zambezi> Anyone using Spamassassin?
[12:33] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: I've tried it, and it does take a long time...  I guess skipping isn't a smart as I thought it would be.
[12:34] <dooglus> Zambezi: I am
[12:34] <Zambezi> dooglus, May I ask you some questions about it i pm?
[12:34] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: bi is on average around 50,000 is that average for something like dd skipping
[12:34] <Flippy209> ic56, i know lol
[12:34] <dooglus> Zambezi: do you know about #spamassassin?
[12:34] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: thats 50MB/s, that is DD reading like crazy...
[12:34] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: there are different versions of 'dd' that actually seek instead of skipping.
[12:35] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: yeah, but I bet it is still faster than saving to my USB hard drive... it takes forever to save 40GB of data to a USB HDD!
[12:35] <Zambezi> dooglus, I haven't installed it yet. I'm just curious. Could I configure it without X?
[12:35] <gavagai> Zambezi, yes
[12:36] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: seek is an option, but it looks like on my version that just skips those blocks at output instead of input, which seems like it would take the same amount of time
[12:36] <Blissex> Lohn: wait a bit more...
[12:36] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: there is seeking in input too, in some version.
[12:36] <nickrud> Lohn, I'm not a networking expert, but if the question is simple enough ...
[12:37] <Zambezi> gavagai, Thanks. That's wounderful news. Do you know if it's possible to make own rules and erase emails from the server even before I download them? I hate emails about Casino, 888, Las vegas etc. No friend mails my about that. ;-)
[12:37] <OneSeventeen> once again, thanks Blissex and dooglus, dd is a pretty awsome tool, not to mention the pipe and split commands!
[12:37] <DShepherd> how do I bind my windows key in gnome?
[12:38] <nickrud> DShepherd, you have to use the gconf-editor
[12:38] <mindspit> where is the log file of ISPCONFIG? where is the vhosts file of ISPCONFIG?
[12:38] <DShepherd> nickrud: ok
[12:38] <DShepherd> nickrud: thanks
[12:38] <nickrud> DShepherd, wierd, but true. I use super for all bindings, and the keyboard shortcuts pref is useless
[12:38] <gavagai> Zambezi, i have only ever used spamassasin ON a server
[12:39] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: be careful with the skip=40GB - it doesn't skip 40GB, it skips 40GB times the input block size...
[12:39] <Zambezi> mindspit, So it's possible to use hotkey command with windowskey and another to lock the computer? I love that in Windows XP.
[12:39] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: I'm not sure what the default input block size is, but it's not 1.
[12:39] <DShepherd> nickrud: yup. what exactly am I looking for in the gconf-editor
[12:39] <DShepherd> ?
[12:39] <nickrud> DShepherd, depends. What are you trying to set?
[12:39] <gavagai> but yes, spamassasin can delete spam, but you shouldn't do that probably
[12:40] <DShepherd> nickrud: the Windows Key or super key
[12:40] <OneSeventeen> dooglus so should I just restart from the beginning I guess?
[12:40] <gavagai> to do that kind of stuff you also use procmail
[12:40] <Zambezi> gavagai, I'll just use it on a server. I'm trying to do install applications on the server so I don't need X.
[12:40] <DShepherd> nickrud: gnome doesnt seem to see it
[12:40] <nickrud> DShepherd, by itself, or in combination with another key to accomplish something
[12:40] <nickrud> DShepherd, ah, not seeing it. May be another issue
[12:40] <DShepherd> nickrud: hmm ok.
[12:41] <DShepherd> nickrud: what issue could that be?
[12:41] <rackerz> My friend has a Speedtouch 330 modem and has the driver disk, can he use ndiswrapper to install them?
[12:41] <gavagai> Zambezi, you will use spamassasin and procmail then
[12:41] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: it looks like you're skipping 512 times more than you thought you were...
[12:42] <rackerz> My friend has a Speedtouch 330 modem and has the driver disk, can he use ndiswrapper to install them?
[12:42] <nickrud> DShepherd, I only know that one or two people have passed thru here with the super key not being recognized at all. Me, for example, has metacity binding <Super>t to opening a 100x50 terminal
[12:42] <Zambezi> gavagai, I know that's risky. That's why I would like to make own "erase-rules". Mails including Viagra, Cialis, pharmacy will be deleted at once and emails including 888, Las Vegas, gamble will also be erased. And the mails got to contain that three words.
[12:42] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: specify "ibs=1 obs=1" to set the block sizes to 1 byte; they default to 512 bytes
[12:42] <sorush20> hi guys I keep getting the message during loading of kernel that time out hda waiting for dma
[12:42] <sorush20>  what can I do to fix this/
[12:42] <Lohn> Blissex, nickrud Thanks for your help. But I have to go now...
[12:42] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: note that 'skip' and 'seek' operate in terms of the block sizes, as <dooglus> hints
[12:42] <sharms> sorush20 - usually when that happens for me, it means the harddrive is bad, or the cable
[12:42] <Zambezi> gavagai, I got another tip of application. Two seconds.
[12:42] <erUSUL> rackerz: www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html
[12:43] <rackerz> He can't access the internet
[12:43] <nickrud> Lohn, /etc/network/interfaces is the file to edit in the console. man interfaces for all the details
[12:43] <jrib> DShepherd: try running xmodmap and seeing what corresponds to super, myself, I use <mod4>
[12:43] <rackerz> erUSUL he can't access the internet
[12:43] <Zambezi> gavagai, Spamassassin and Fetchmail was the tip I got.
[12:43] <mcrandello> anyone try the new ati drivers?
[12:43] <Api984> where can i get Xvid and Divx codecs for XIne
[12:43] <DShepherd> jrib: ok
[12:43] <Api984> ubuntu doesnt have them in libxine
[12:43] <Blissex> Lohn: base-config-network-console might help
[12:43] <DShepherd> jrib: it is the same.. <mod4>
[12:44] <OneSeventeen> Blissex and dooglus: I basically deleted my original files and am starting over again, this time with 52GB of space to store 40GB, so hopefully this should work...  (bi is around 20000, which isn't too bad... maybe I'll get paid overtime for sitting and watching it!)
[12:44] <gavagai> Zambezi, fetchmail is something else entirely and runs on the client not the server
[12:44] <mcrandello> well the new packaged fglrx drivers anyway
[12:44] <ron_o> anyone know what this means from var/log/kern.log  snd-opl3sa2-pnpbios: probe of 01:01.00 failed with error -2
[12:44] <gavagai> fetchmail just fetches your mail
[12:44] <ron_o> PnP manual resources are invalid, using auto config
[12:44] <jrib> DShepherd: try using that in your gconf
[12:44] <gavagai> spamassasin marks the spam, procmail sorts the mail
[12:44] <DShepherd> jrib: <mod4>?
[12:44] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: what are you trying to do in higher level terms?
[12:45] <DShepherd> jrib: ok
[12:45] <jrib> DShepherd: <mod4>t  <-- for example
[12:45] <DShepherd> jrib: kool
[12:45] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: I'm not sure why you're wanting to 'skip' anything at all.
[12:45] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: backup an entire partition that I cannot mount.
[12:45] <kaur> hi, i'm trying to import authentication keys (all got lost somehow) with gpg keys and it says "import failed". Ideas?
[12:45] <erUSUL> rackerz: it's a problem... she needs to download the firmware and a few tools to make it run.
[12:45] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: in the middle of the previous command (after it copied over 25GB) I ran out of HDD space on my USB drive, so I cleared old stuff out/emptied the trash, and wanted to pick up where I left off
[12:45] <vanberge> this is a dumb and specific question - in thunderbird, when i hit 'reply'... it automatically puts the quoted message on top of my cursor?  can i change that so that the quoted message is below???
[12:45] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: good, and why do you need to skip 25G of it?
[12:46] <ktogias> LVM on Dapper: I run 'pvcreate /dev/hda3'. It says that the physical volume is succesfully created. Then I run 'vgcreate data /dev/hda3' and I get 'No physical volume label read from /dev/hda3, /dev/hda3 not identified as an existing physical volume' and it fails. What am I doing wrong??
[12:46] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: oh, it's probably best to start from scratch.  better safe than sorry.
[12:46] <Blissex> vanberge: thats criminal intent, and you should be locked up :-)
[12:46] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: especially when nobody can agree what 1GB means...
[12:46] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: (I found the dd command after asking how to make the backup, and I want to pick up where I left off after I ran out of HDD space on my USB drive the first time I did this)
[12:46] <erUSUL> vanberge: top posting is evil XD
[12:46] <Zambezi> gavagai, I don't know the purpose with procmail. I use Thunderbird as mailclient. What do procmail do?
[12:46] <nickrud> vanberge, don't bottom posting is good
[12:46] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: dd says 1GB is 1024x1024x1024, which is what nautilus says it is also, but once again, better safe than sorry!
[12:47] <kaur> hi, i'm trying to import authentication keys (all got lost somehow) with gpg keys and it says "import failed". Ideas?
[12:47] <nickrud> vanberge, in fact, cutting and writing into the quoted text is best
[12:47] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: ahhhhhh, but thats friggingly dangerous. How do you know wxactly it is 25GB?
[12:47] <vanberge> nickrud: if you get an email, you like to have to scroll all the way to the bottom of a chain of messages in order to read the latest message?
[12:47] <DShepherd> jrib: doesnt work
[12:47] <OneSeventeen> It isn't taking too horribly long, I'm already past 7GB out of the 40
[12:47] <gavagai> Zambezi, procmail can send the spam to a certain location, the good mail to another.  i don't know, maybe thunderbird can do that itself
[12:47] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: it's hard to check with these binary files you're making, and a single byte error will render your backups worthless
[12:47] <_sp1d3r_> ubotu what's difference between deb and deb-src in sources.list?
[12:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about what's difference between deb and deb-src in sources.list?
[12:47] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: not a good idea I say. In part because 25GB is a bit ambuguous.
[12:47] <dooglus> _sp1d3r_: deb is for binaries, deb-src is for sources
[12:47] <nickrud> vanberge, isn't that how time works? anyway, it's a topic for off-topic ;)
[12:47] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: yup, I'm starting from scratch instead of being lazy :D
[12:48] <protocol2> where id the default java folder located in ubuntu?
[12:48] <protocol2> is*
[12:48] <erUSUL> _sp1d3r_: i'm not ubotu but deb are binary (compiled) and deb-src is the source code to compile in your machine
[12:48] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: if you have a fast CPU pass the thing thru 'bzip2', makes it smaller and checksums it.
[12:48] <OneSeventeen> Blissex,dooglus: hopefully this precaution won't even be neccessary, as I'm just doing this so I can remove an old windows partition I don't use anymore... but better safe than sorry
[12:48] <kaur> hi, i'm trying to import authentication keys (all got lost somehow) with gpg keys and it says "import failed". Ideas?
[12:48] <nickrud> vanberge, on your question, I don't use thunderbird
[12:48] <jrib> DShepherd: k, don't know then
[12:48] <nickrud> kaur, did you look at that ubuntu-nl.org page?
[12:49] <kaur> nickrud: yes
[12:49] <Zambezi> gavagai, So Procmail is like a proxy? It's a "forwarder"?
[12:49] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: if the CPU not fast, 'gzip -2', if slow 'lzop'
[12:49] <DShepherd> jrib: kool. thanks anyways
[12:49] <protocol2> where is the default java folder located in ubuntu?
[12:49] <vanberge> nickrud: thx.  but geez this is frustrating
[12:49] <nickrud> kaur, hm. Could you paste the complete error on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[12:49] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: it's a pentium 4 less than a year old, but my 2 year old AMD crunches numbers faster...  odds are, the gzip or bzip2 would run faster than the USB interface to the external HDD anyway
[12:49] <protocol2> after installation that is
[12:50] <kaur> nickrud: K
[12:50] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: ironically, if I used gzip, it might even shorten the time, since the bottleneck is not the CPU
[12:50] <Zambezi> gavagai, But I don't think that's necassary. I erase the emails thats are spam with 100% chance. The other emails erase Thunderbirds own filter.
[12:50] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: I don't think you can get split to compress each part, so you would probably have to "dd | gzip | split"
[12:50] <jojoman02> anyone know of a good linux gui calendar program?
[12:50] <xpc> !hu
[12:50] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[12:51] <_sp1d3r_> To update my list in sources.list I have to go on http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic, generate list and past it in my sources.list file?
[12:51] <dooglus> jojoman02: evolution ?
[12:51] <nickrud> vanberge, most people intersperce their comments into the preceeding messages, cutting stuff that does not apply. http://people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/du-guidelines.html , section 5 has some rationale
[12:51] <xpc> mizu
[12:51] <xpc> ?
[12:51] <jojoman02> dooglus: just calendar
[12:51] <valehru> ok..so gplflash isnt doing the business for me on dapper x64....any other suggestions?
[12:51] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: thats what I was thinking, but if it runs a checksum, would that still work?
[12:51] <xpc> hm
[12:51] <Blissex> jojoman02: there are very many...
[12:51] <protocol2> where is the default java folder located in ubuntu?
[12:52] <Flippy209> is .bash_profile sort of the same thing as .profile in HP-UX?
[12:52] <valehru> protocol2, sudo locate java
[12:52] <hyphenated> vanberge: Edit -> Account Settings -> your account -> Composition and Addressing lets you choose whether your cursor starts above or below the quoted reply
[12:52] <moonlite> Flippy209: what is .profile in HP-UX?
[12:52] <jdmpike> The internet is telling me to go to bed...
[12:52] <Flippy209> .profile
[12:52] <Flippy209> holds aliases
[12:52] <Zambezi> I think somethings wrong with my monitor or graficcard. The screen change colour. From bright to a brigth with a touch of red. :-( And that error occured in Windows too.
[12:52] <_sp1d3r_> what's correct procedure to update sources.list?
[12:53] <moonlite> Flippy209: only?
[12:53] <jojoman02> Blissex, well a search in google when i searched didn't come up with anything, except command like remind programs
[12:53] <Blissex> Zambezi: bad news, looks like your monitor is going...
[12:53] <kaur> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16138
[12:53] <Flippy209> and other stuff, like startup messages, welcome messages, paths.. etc
[12:53] <vanberge> hyphenated: thanks so much dude
[12:53] <vanberge> god dangit thank you
[12:53] <moonlite> Flippy209: then yes
[12:53] <Flippy209> kk
[12:53] <tombs> hi all
[12:53] <Flippy209> thanks
[12:53] <nickrud> Zambezi, surely sounds like a hardware error. possibly messing with xgamma can at least get you a useable color
[12:53] <Zambezi> Blissex, I got this about 1,5 year ago.
[12:53] <rixxon> _sp1d3r_: how do you mean, update?
[12:53] <Blissex> jojoman02: you need to ask for a calendar or PIM program, and search FreshMeat.net first
[12:53] <vanberge> hyphenated: are you single / want to go out?
[12:53] <moonlite> it's a shell script that are sourced when the shell starts
[12:53] <OneSeventeen> what is the command to clear the screen in the gnome terminal?
[12:54] <Blissex> Zambezi: depends on which monitor etc, there is a lot of stuff going bad quickly...
[12:54] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: 'clear'
[12:54] <rixxon> OneSeventeen: clear
[12:54] <Flippy209> ok so say that I wanted a few things to run on login, I could add them in that .bash_profile?
[12:54] <Zambezi> nickrud, I hate my computer. It's 4,5 year and this is the thrid graficcard.
[12:54] <nickrud> kaur, you have a lib in /usr/local, that sends up fireworks
[12:54] <_sp1d3r_> rixxon if I want to update all link in sources.list what I have to do?
[12:54] <cello_rasp> are there any firefox plugins that use the address bar as a status bar, like safari?
[12:54] <hyphenated> vanberge: heh. have fun
[12:54] <Blissex> Zambezi: but it could just be the VGA cable plugged in a bit loose
[12:54] <moonlite> Flippy209: well, depends on your definition of login
[12:54] <OneSeventeen> Blissex & rixxon: that just scrolls down to make it look clear, I want to actually clear out the whole buffer
[12:54] <theBishop> is there any way i can make ubuntu bring up my network device, but not try to get the IP at boot?
[12:54] <rixxon> _sp1d3r_: sorry, i still don't get ya
[12:54] <Flippy209> I.E. startup xchat and connect to this server
[12:54] <moonlite> logging in to your gnome-desktop or just starting a shell
[12:55] <Flippy209> when I login to my user account which .bash_profile should only be connected to under my path
[12:55] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: I don't think that you can clear the log. Except perhaps by setting it to zero and reexpanding it.
[12:55] <moonlite> nah that wouldnt be appropriate
[12:55] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: or do you mean the BASH history?
[12:55] <theBishop> when i'm out of range of my wireless network, i have to Ctrl+C to stop the network device from booting
[12:55] <kaur> nickrud: what to do?
[12:55] <moonlite> you should ad those to gnome-session instead
[12:55] <Zambezi> Blissex, , I hate my computer. It's 4,5 year and this is the thrid graficcard. / I try to check that. I usual don't lock it cause I've been changing the hardware alot when I migrated to Linux.
[12:55] <nickrud> kaur, god only knows (listening to the beach boys this sec, how appropriate)
[12:56] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: I just don't want to be able to use the scroll bar to scroll up through the past output from the terminal, but I still want to be able to use the up arrow to go through the BASH history...
[12:56] <kaur> nickrud: what di du mean bu "lib"?
[12:56] <kaur> library?
[12:56] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: closing and re-opening the terminal achieved the desired result
[12:56] <spikeb> Flippy209: if you want xchat to fire up and connect here upon login, you dont need .bashrc
[12:56] <dibblego> has anyone seen "no suitable windowing system found, exiting." with OpenOffice? Apparently it's a known problem, but I'm having difficulty determining exactly the problem and the solution (if any?)
[12:57] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: yes, or you can set the log size to zero....
[12:57] <OneSeventeen> Blissex: how would I do that?
[12:57] <JackRazz> Hey everyone, is this the best channel for asking ubuntu install questions??
[12:57] <spikeb> yeah JackRazz
[12:57] <Blissex> OneSeventeen: preferences...
[12:57] <JackRazz> ok spikeb....
[12:57] <nickrud> kaur, a lib is roughly equivalent to a dll ; gpg is getting the wrong lib. the my gpg uses is /lib/libreadline.so.5 . Yours is in /usr/local/lib, which tells me you installed some extra software that is claiming to be the real libreadline
[12:58] <kaur> nickrud: now i remember
[12:58] <Flippy209> spikeb, what would you recommend?
[12:58] <JackRazz> I'm trying to install a dual boot winxp and ubuntu using NT loader instead of grub, but I can't get the bootsect.lin image to boot
[12:58] <kaur> nickrud: i needed to get "r" to work
[12:58] <kaur> nickrud: and so i installed libreadline
[12:58] <JackRazz> i installed grub to a floppy
[12:59] <spikeb> Flippy209: you can use session preferences to have xchat start on login, and set up xchat itself to connect to here when launched
[12:59] <JackRazz> should the floppy been a bootable msdos floppy to begin with
[12:59] <nickrud> kaur, there is probably a way to fix that, making gpg ignore the /usr/local version, but that's over my head
[12:59] <JackRazz> ?
[12:59] <moonlite> Flippy209: whats wrong with gnome session that i told you? :)
[12:59] <kaur> nickrud: if u don't mind i would like to ask u a question about installing from a source
[12:59] <aSkito> hi
[12:59] <moonlite> (as spikeb is telling you now again :P )
[12:59] <nickrud> kaur, I used to do a lot of that, but not so much the last few years. Brain rot and all that.
[01:00] <Flippy209> how do I access either of those options.. I'm sure I can figure out xchat to connect on launch as I've done it with mIRC clients for years
[01:00] <JackRazz> also if I have ubuntu installed on a different partition, is it possible to create a grub boot sector without reinstalling it?
[01:00] <Flippy209> but I'm not sure where to start looking for the gnome session options
[01:00] <moonlite> Flippy209: system => preferences => Sessions
[01:00] <Flippy209> <3 ty
[01:00] <spikeb> Flippy209: system>preferences>sessions, then in that window, the start up applications tab
[01:00] <_sp1d3r_> someone knows how the links are update in sources.list?
[01:00] <spikeb> startup programs, even.
[01:00] <SonicChao> How do I figure out the ESSID of my connection?
[01:00] <spikeb> sorry.
[01:00] <Flippy209> haha so easy to find. :(
[01:01] <nickrud> kaur, look into the environment variable LD_CONFIG , if my mem is not totally broken
[01:01] <InvisiblePinkUni> i want to use exim as MTA, but i find exim and exim4 in synaptic. What should i use?
[01:01] <kaur> nickrud: if i install something from the source, then it is safe to delete the source after the installation. Correct? But how can i uninstall a program which was installed from a source?
[01:01] <SonicChao> sorry
[01:01] <JackRazz> anyone here who know about grup MBR?
[01:01] <nickrud> InvisiblePinkUni, use exim4
[01:01] <SonicChao> but how do i figure out the ESSID of my connection?
[01:02] <kaur> nickrud: since there is no source anymore, "make uninstall" doesn't work? Or does it?
[01:02] <InvisiblePinkUni> nickrud: thank you
[01:02] <nickrud> kaur, a properly written source package has a make target uninstall; sudo make uninstall. Keep your source build around
[01:02] <mattwestm> SonicChao: iwconfig should tell you
[01:02] <JackRazz> ok, I'll go ahead and post a question in the forums.....
[01:02] <moonlite> kaur: you chose a smart --prefix and after that you can just rm -rf the directory
[01:02] <dan> except for the language this seams to be the richt place..
[01:02] <mattwestm> SonicChao: actually, ifconfig should tell you
[01:03] <SonicChao> I cannot connect to the internet
[01:03] <spikeb> a properly written application contains an uninstall script that is installed in its directory, instead of just a source make target.
[01:03] <kaur> nickrud: for what does the "rf" stand for?
[01:03] <dibblego> man rm
[01:03] <SonicChao> That is the problem, I need to know what to put into the ESSID field
[01:03] <SonicChao> mattwestm
[01:03] <nickrud> kaur, moonlite is exactly correct, it's remove forceably and recursively
[01:03] <kaur> ok
[01:06] <vanberge> anybody know if there are plans for an itunes port on linux?
[01:06] <nickrud> spikeb, in the ideal world. Been burned, but I'll start looking for them
[01:06] <Flippy209> ok spikeb and moonlite I'm confused
[01:06] <nickrud> vanberge, sharpmusique (sp?)
[01:06] <mcrandello> the rf stands for "really fast" :P
[01:06] <Flippy209> imagine that :P
[01:07] <nickrud> really fubared
[01:07] <Flippy209> if I do a ls -a from my home I see .xchat2
[01:07] <spikeb> vanberge: yes, i do know that there aren't any plans for such a port until such a time that linux is popular enough to force apple to do so.
[01:07] <spikeb> vanberge: in other words, maybe in five or ten years.
[01:07] <Flippy209> so when I'm browsing for startup is that what I select, and how do I see "hidden" (isn't that what the . means) files?
[01:07] <DrSpin> osnes9x will not spawn a window and it will die -- seems like it needs Mesa libraries -- anyone know which ones?
[01:07] <vanberge> spikeb: think so?  i thought ubuntu was gaining speed quickly
[01:08] <spikeb> Flippy209: i dont know, but why would you need to?
[01:08] <spikeb> vanberge: look how long it took apple to port itunes to WINDOWS.
[01:08] <supercargo> is there a way to execute an arbitrary script when logging out from gnome?
[01:08] <Flippy209> hah
[01:08] <supercargo> I'd like to send sigterm to azureus so that it shuts down tidily.
[01:08] <kaur> nickrud: i uninstalled libreadline4 that didn't help...
[01:08] <supercargo> Without having to shut it down manually.
[01:08] <nickrud> kaur, again, post the complete error
[01:09] <kaur> nickrud: uninstallation was ok, no new errors
[01:09] <kaur> nickrud: still the same
[01:09] <stevekl> Wow, gomebaker hardlocked my system
[01:09] <moonlite> Flippy209: just type "xchat" there and it should work
[01:09] <stevekl> I don't think linux has ever hardlocked on me
[01:09] <stevekl> Bizzare!
[01:09] <Flippy209> ok
[01:09] <nickrud> kaur, try sudo ldconfig , then the import again. (really don't wanna deal with compiled shite)
[01:10] <_sp1d3r_> I'm going to bed...
[01:10] <nickrud> cuz I'm really dancing my on my edge with that these days
[01:11] <kaur> nickrud: still the same
[01:11] <nickrud> vanberge, try http://directory.fsf.org/all/sharpmusique.html .
[01:11] <p47> Hey, I have problems with my sound card, now I can't listen anyting, but I hace installed de sound card correctly, I have this with alsamixer http://p47.timesofcoffee.com/Pantallazo.png
[01:11] <Flippy209> brb testing, thanks moonlite ;)
[01:11] <nickrud> kaur, then we've reached the edge of my compentency.
[01:12] <vanberge> nickrud: tyvm
[01:12] <kaur> nickrud: at least you figured out the problem
[01:12] <kaur> nickrud: i need to get rid of the libreadline *** i compiled from source
[01:12] <nickrud> vanberge, never used it before, I've just watched the itunes stuff evolve on the restricted formats page, that seems to be the consensus
[01:12] <nickrud> kaur, precisely
[01:13] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: what were you saying about a checksum?
[01:13] <Snow_Shelter> can someone make a newer package of aMSN, or help me troubleshoot my webcam problem
[01:13] <jajaja-> is sql 5 and myth 0.18 the reason I am having lots of problems trying to get myth running
[01:13] <stevekl> Can someone help me with gnomebaker? I try to write a DVD and it just doesn't begin, and sometimes it locks up my entire computer
[01:14] <p47> help me !!!!!!!!!!!}
[01:14] <kaur> nickrud: what if i'd manage to find the same source and compile it again and then uninstall it?
[01:14] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: I was just saying that if bzip makes a checksum, then running dd | bzip | split might not work, would it?  since the bzip checksum wouldn't happen on each split file, would it?
[01:14] <Snow_Shelter> anyone here that can help with aMSN?
[01:14] <nickrud> kaur, possibly. This is a sledge hammer, but reboot. See if the library recognition sorts itself out.
[01:14] <Flippy209> works wonderfully, thanks moonlite & spikeb :)
[01:14] <spikeb> Flippy209: sweet
[01:15] <moonlite> kaur: didn't it work to just remove the libreadline.so* and then reinstalling readline from synaptic?
[01:15] <OneSeventeen> dooglus (Of course I  have no idea how it really works, and I could just be assuming the wrong things based on zero knowledge on the subject)
[01:15] <dooglus> kaur: 'sudo checkinstall' is a good way to install a package from source.  that makes a .deb from the compiled program and installs it.  to uninstall, you can uninstall the package like any other
[01:15] <kaur> nickrud: ok i'll try the deleting
[01:15] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: you will have to 'cat' all the parts, and pipe the result through bunzip before writing it back to the disk
[01:15] <kaur> nickrud: sry
[01:15] <kaur> nickrud: wrong address
[01:15] <nickrud> kaur, thought you had
[01:16] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: to backup:  dd | bzip | split;  to restore:  cat x?? | bunzip | dd
[01:16] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: basically the restore pipeline is the exact reverse of the backup pipeline.
[01:16] <jad_> guys, on this desktop I've installed Fedora5 once and I was able to use resolutions higher than 1024 now with dapper I can't despite I added more resolutions to xorg.conf
[01:16] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: cat is the 'inverse' of split, like bunzip is the inverse of bzip
[01:17] <cwillu> my smb configuration broke  :(  It was working, but now it hangs when I mount /mnt/office (as used to work), or try to browse it in nautilus (using smb://)
[01:17] <dooglus> (except there should be some 2's in there somewhere too...)
[01:17] <nickrud> jad_, does the Monitor section have your monitor's refresh rates?
[01:17] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: cool, thanks, that makes sense :D
[01:17] <chrsjav> can i display .hlp files in linux?
[01:17] <Mikelo> !peercast
[01:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about peercast
[01:17] <moonlite> jad_: i'm guessing you don't have the right drivers installed
[01:17] <moonlite> and you shouldn't have to hand edit xorg.conf
[01:18] <Mikelo> can anybody help me out with peercast?
[01:18] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: the problem with compressing like that is that if any single piece gets damaged then you lose the whole lot (due to checksums in the archive)
[01:18] <Sivik> anyone here play nwn in the linux client
[01:18] <nickrud> Sivik, I have, yes
[01:18] <moonlite> gnomes resolution changer doesn't care about your modelines anyway i think
[01:18] <jad_> moonlite, nickrud here is my xorg.conf http://phpfi.com/124841
[01:18] <Sivik> nickrud: i am looking for someone who plays it right now
[01:18] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: that's more of what I was thinking, was that it would do the checksum on the sum of all parts, not each individual part
[01:18] <Sivik> nickrud: i'm trying to find a good fixinstall file
[01:18] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: that would require some extra cleverness of the 'split' command, which it doesn't have.
[01:19] <kaur> nickrud: it works now. sorry, that i bothered, and thanks a lot
[01:19] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: yup, and which would make it too complicated to be useful, IMO
[01:19] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: split won't write compressed.
[01:19] <moonlite> jad_: wha graphics card?
[01:19] <nickrud> kaur, np, not a bother. Gotta have trustable repos ;)
[01:19] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: one thing you could do is mount the USB drive as a compressed filesystem, but that gets messy too...
[01:19] <jad_> moonlite, nvidia
[01:19] <moonlite> did you install nvidias drivers?
[01:19] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: yeah, I'm not too worried about it, I'm actually running dd without any compression.
[01:19] <moonlite> (they're in universe or multiverse or something)
[01:20] <CrashProne> Hey, just to mention something, I totally found a solution to ruining your sound configuration for reasons you don't know and not knowing how to fix it.  If the default was working nice, you can just delete /var/lib/alsa/asound.state , and do a hard reset. :-O  It reverts to the originally installed defaults.
[01:20] <kaur> nickrud: still, i have one question if u don't mind
[01:20] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: that's what I would do.  especially if I was being paid by the hour :)
[01:20] <nickrud> shoot
[01:20] <kaur> nickrud: it has bothered me for a long time
[01:20] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: and it just now finished, 44 items with a total of 43GB! :D
[01:20] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: comp-time, here I come!
[01:20] <jad_> moonlite, no, but do I have to ?
[01:20] <slusk> I've just installed dapper - why is my locale set to en_AU?
[01:20] <dooglus> OneSeventeen: comp-time?
[01:21] <slusk> and how do I change it to en_US or something else
[01:21] <nickrud> Sivik, I could put up the one I used, I backed up the nwn to a dvd with all
[01:21] <OneSeventeen> dooglus: it's what we use here if we work too long, instead of getting overtime, we just leave early on Friday (which I'm rather fond of)
[01:21] <moonlite> jad_: i'm not sure, but i'm quite sure poking around in your xorg.conf wont help you much
[01:21] <Sivik> nickrud: that would be nice
[01:21] <Sivik> nickrud: cause when i'm running the stuff, i'm getting an error with fixinstall
[01:21] <kaur> nickrud: when i install a deb package, called "X" for example and it installs some dependencies, then after i uninstall "X" it doesn't uninstall the packages  it installed
[01:22] <moonlite> jad_: try installing them and see if it works nice then, if not, go back to config-editing
[01:22] <kaur> nickrud: must i uninstall them manually?
[01:22] <nickrud> kaur, let me introduce you to aptitude :)
[01:22] <kaur> nickrud: i've used synaptic
[01:22] <dxdemetriou> I have a problem with hibernate, it does do nothing. I have upgraded my Breezy to Dapper. Anybody knows what will needed?
[01:22] <kaur> nickrud: and the apt-get thing
[01:22] <nickrud> Sivik, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16140
[01:23] <moonlite> jad_: i should add that i haven't used nvidias drivers myself since i don't own an nvidia card, but your problem seems to be driver problems
[01:23] <jad_> moonlite, nvidia-glx ? is this whati've to install
[01:23] <kaur> nickrud: are u telling that this is normal, that i must uninstall manually?
[01:23] <Zambezi> Is there an easy why to protect again SSH-worms? And a protection for portscanning?
[01:23] <nickrud> kaur, aptitude does exactly that, tracks what were installed as dependencies. If, when you uninstall something that pulls in dependencies, it will automatically uninstall unused dependencies
[01:23] <Sivik> nickrud, is that the fixinstall that you used
[01:23] <Slyboots> Does anyone here use "Xmame"
[01:23] <nickrud> Sivik, yes
[01:24] <kaur> nickrud: ok i'll remember
[01:24] <dooglus> I just deleted a 500Mb file, and still only have 50Mb of free disk space.  Why didn't the free space go up when I deleted the file?
[01:24] <moonlite> jad_: there should be some page on the wiki about this, hold
[01:24] <Slyboots> You ahve to empty the trash
[01:24] <nickrud> Sivik, let me repost, I see something odd there
[01:24] <dooglus> Slyboots: I used 'rm'
[01:24] <moonlite> (or search for yourself! :) )
[01:24] <gilianima> what are the shortcuts for aiglx/compiz ?
[01:24] <Slyboots> I still think you have to empty the trash
[01:25] <dooglus> Slyboots: I have used xmame in the past.  I used to be in the mame development team years ago
[01:25] <kaur> nickrud: ok, bye
[01:25] <stevekl> Time to install k3b
[01:25] <nickrud> Sivik, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16141
[01:25] <SurfnKid> how can i transfer files from one box to another using linux
[01:25] <moonlite> jad_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto seems to be the place
[01:25] <SurfnKid> scp
[01:25] <dooglus> SurfnKid: 'scp'
[01:25] <SurfnKid> sftp
[01:25] <SurfnKid> ok
[01:26] <SurfnKid> guess thast what i have to do then
[01:26] <jad_> moonlite, thanks i'll check and install
[01:26] <nickrud> kaur, it's a lovely program, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[01:26] <Slyboots> I have to Alt-out to another terminal and back to Xwindows to get the display back
[01:26] <kaur> nickrud: why doesn't synaptic do that?
[01:26] <ktogias> I have /home at an 323G ext3 fs. System seems to reserve 17GB, as the available space is only 306G... Is there any way to configure the portion of the filesystem that the system reserves?
[01:26] <nickrud> kaur, to be more compatible with the way apt-get works. That'
[01:26] <SurfnKid> dooglus: but i have to know the source and target paths?
[01:27] <kaur> nickrud: there are probably many useless packages in my system
[01:27] <nickrud> s why you'll never see me using aptitude as an install tool in theis channel
[01:27] <Sivik> nickrud, i will try that one
[01:27] <moonlite> jad_: it actually was https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia but i'm guessing yo saw that yourself. np
[01:27] <aSkito> hi
[01:27] <dxdemetriou> The Hibernate on Dapper needs some configuration to work?
[01:27] <Slyboots> I mean, its an annoyance more than anything since the machine doenet crash, I just loose the display
[01:27] <aSkito> for installing APT-GET an ubuntu?
[01:27] <aSkito> who cant helpme
[01:28] <kaur> nickrud: and there's no way of tracking them down as i see
[01:28] <moonlite> dxdemetriou: it depends on hardware
[01:28] <nickrud> Sivik, as I remember it, I used the gold install, but did a couple of things different. Slashed & burned my way thru the install, but that was definitely the fixinstall I used
[01:28] <moonlite> on some hardware it works out of the box and on some you nead tweaks etc.
[01:28] <nickrud> kaur, yes, there's an old school tool called debfoster
[01:28] <kaur> nickrud: what does that do?
[01:28] <dxdemetriou> moonlite, It doesn't do anything, and I don't know how can I see the problem
[01:28] <dooglus> SurfnKid: source and target is just where you want to copy from and to
[01:29] <nickrud> kaur, it helps you delete unused packages
[01:29] <Raito> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16139, I tried to run something with wine, what happened?
[01:29] <Sivik> nickrud, ok, i am getting an error when i'm trying to run an md5sum on that file as well as a Segmentation error when i run nwn
[01:29] <kaur> nickrud: ok, already reading about it
[01:29] <nickrud> Sivik, not a clue, really. I used that one, and as I said, I slashed & burned my way thru.
[01:29] <dooglus> SurfnKid: something like "scp -r /home/surfn/files/ machine2:/home/surfn/files
[01:29] <compengi> how do i configure on ubuntu my network static ip
[01:29] <Sivik> nickrud, lol, did you ever get it to work
[01:29] <matgates> Is there a way to access iTunes podcast directory from Ubuntu?
[01:30] <dooglus> compengi: in the network manager, turn off DHCP
[01:30] <gavagai> user@machine2
[01:30] <nickrud> Sivik, yeah, sure did. I bought the platinum edition
[01:30] <gavagai> if diff usernames
[01:30] <compengi> i'm working on windows now
[01:30] <Sivik> nickrud: lol
[01:30] <compengi> give me steps
[01:30] <compengi> i'm a new user
[01:30] <compengi> :D
[01:30] <kaur> nickrud: i'll try it. Seems to be a wonderful tool... Windows should have something like this and it would be almoust usable....
[01:31] <moonlite> dxdemetriou: i can't help you further. i'm just happy suspend works on my computer. i read a blog post recently saying that there was work being done in the right directions at least, maybe it will work better in a year or so
[01:31] <nickrud> kaur, debfoster is something to use to clean your system once, it's a tool I use tongs to handle these days
[01:31] <matgates> compengi: you're using a default installation of ubunbu (i.e. you didn't select KDE as your interface)?
[01:32] <compengi> what?
[01:32] <Raito> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16139, anyone know why wine didn't work?
[01:32] <JordiGH> How can I remap a key? I'm on a mac, and I would like the apple key to have the same functionality as what the alt-option key has right now.
[01:32] <compengi> i need to configure my network cards to static ips
[01:33] <nickrud> JordiGH, if you get no better response (and I hope you do) xmodmap is the user tool for defining keys
[01:34] <Flippy209> compengi: System > Administration > Networking. Change the properties for the nic there ;)
[01:34] <compengi> and btw how can i know if my network card driver is installed
[01:34] <matgates> compengi: goto System [menu]  -> Adminisration -> Networking.  Enter password if prompted.  Select the network device you want to configure, click properties.  Select if you want to use static or dhcp.
[01:34] <Raito> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16139, anybody know why wine didn't work?
[01:34] <compengi> that's what i did
[01:34] <compengi> but they have only 3 line
[01:34] <Flippy209> who's pro on connecting to windows workgroup shares
[01:35] <matgates> Raito: because wine is a big pile of poo...  :)
[01:35] <compengi> ip, submask, and gateway
[01:35] <compengi> but i need alternate and prefered dns also
[01:35] <Raito> matgates: Can you give me a real reason? Did I do something wrong or is wine just not compatible with that program?
[01:36] <spikeb> Raito: it looks like it might not be compatible, and also that you might not have glx loaded
[01:36] <smahoney> Hey all, anybody have experience dealing with system freezes when using option renderaccel="true" with an nVidia card?
[01:36] <Raito> I don't have glx, what is that?
[01:36] <spikeb> something to do with acellerated rendering.
[01:36] <nickrud> besides the fact that matgates pointed out the fundamental issue
[01:36] <JordiGH> Oh, neato. Konversation assigns a colour to each user.
[01:36] <matgates> Raito: My experience of wine is that it's not compatible with a whole lot.  But I know that a lot of program can be made to work with some fiddling.  our best chance is to check the application database and see if there is a config change you can make:  http://appdb.winehq.org/
[01:37] <Raito> matgates: I think I need glx, what is it?
[01:37] <JordiGH> nickrud: Do you know how to use xmodmap? Man pages are cryptic as usual. :-(
[01:37] <compengi> how can i know if network drivers are installed
[01:37] <matgates> Raito: I don't know the specifics of the app your trying to use... I'm no good at deciphering the output of wine.  It's just general advice that I'm re-gurgitating...  :)
[01:38] <nickrud> JordiGH, every time I need to I have to read and decipher that page. I don't use it enough to have it memorized.
[01:38] <Mikelo> can anybody get peercast running
[01:38] <matgates> compengi: What network card are you using?
[01:38] <Raito> matgates, but you do know what glx is and where I get it right?
[01:38] <JordiGH> Aha!
[01:38] <JordiGH> http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20040425231058862
[01:38] <compengi> Raito i'm using d-link
[01:38] <Sivik> nickrud, non of the fixinstall's i can find work
[01:38] <compengi> and i have another realtek
[01:38] <Warbo> I have just written a guide on the Radeon driver and would appreciate any improvements, and possibly adding it to !radeon. It is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RadeonDriverHowto
[01:39] <matgates> Raito: glx is to do with accelerated 3d graphics drivers.  Some apps will run /really/ slowly unless you have the accelerated driveres installed for your card.
[01:39] <Flippy209> anybody know how to resolve this error:  "Windows Network: workgroup" couldn't be found. Perhaps it has recently been deleted.
[01:39] <Raito> but they will run right? The app is a 2d app so I don't think I need any 3d things
[01:39] <kaur> nickrud: i still have to know if i need these packages...
[01:40] <Warbo> Raito: I found that WINE did not run programs when my 3D driver was screwed up
[01:40] <nickrud> kaur, yeah, that's the real issue, true.
[01:40] <matgates> Raito: yeah.  The 3d drivers are needed only for applications that use 3d stuff, like opengl.  Stellarium is a good example.  The only caveat to this is that I don't know about wine usage in this respect.
[01:41] <nickrud> Sivik, I'm not sure how I can be of much more help then. If you are in San Antonio, you can copy my install ;)
[01:41] <Raito> sigh, I guess wine can't play obscure japanese windows games
[01:41] <raldi> Ever since i installed Ubuntu on my Thinkpad, i've felt it's been running hot. I got my proof today when i came home from work and found it off: the thermal alarm went off at 95 C / 200 F ! I hadn't been running anything when i left. Anyone know any tips for investigating this?
[01:41] <Sivik> nickrud: do you live in SA?
[01:41] <Flippy209> Warbo: you there?
[01:41] <spikeb> Raito: heh
[01:41] <spikeb> Raito: probably not
[01:42] <nickrud> Sivik, thru the summer, then back to the west coast
[01:42] <Raito> would cedega or something give me any luck?
[01:42] <Sivik> ah
[01:42] <blueyed> raldi: have you taken a look at "top"?
[01:42] <Warbo> Raito: If it obscure then maybe not
[01:42] <Sivik> i'm just going to remove all of this stuff, and use the native linux resources as well
[01:42] <raldi> blueyed: yeah, it looks normal. hald-addon-stor pops up every now and then but that's it
[01:43] <blueyed> raldi: I've also read somewhere that a new kernel in ubtunu-updates has the "timer interval" lowered because of this.
[01:43] <blocky> okay newb question, how do I apt-get install aclocal
[01:43] <raldi> blueyed: that sounds like a great lead! do you remember where you saw that?
[01:43] <blueyed> raldi: ok. e.g. gam_server can produce extra load, therefor I've asked.
[01:43] <raldi> okay, let me spend some time with google
[01:43] <raldi> thanks!
[01:43] <Raito> guess I'll just give up :/, Damnit, why did I have to get into ubuntu, now I need features from ubuntu and windows, T_T
[01:43] <nickrud> Sivik, can I pm you?
[01:44] <Warbo> Raito: WINE works by trying do implement everything, starting with the core feaatures of Windows and finishing with little tweaks that aren't critical. Cedega makes sure one thing works fully, then moves on to the next. Their approach may not include you game yet
[01:44] <matgates> Raito: I really can't say.  I avoid wine whenever possible.  Install an old copy of win 98 or something in a vmware virtual machine and run your game there   :)
[01:44] <blueyed> raldi: I'd just apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, and make sure that you have the breezy-updates repo enabled.
[01:44] <InvisiblePinkUni> just installed exim4 on ubuntu. how do i setup a catchall account? should i edit a file in /etc/exim4/conf.d/ ?
[01:44] <dxdemetriou> The hibernate is deppending how free space have the swap?
[01:44] <blueyed> raldi: what does "uname -a" say on your lap?
[01:44] <BlueLotus> http://pastebin.com/722254  <-- Can someone help me understand this error that I get from trying to run JEdit?
[01:44] <Raito> what is a vmware virtual machine and why not windows xp?
[01:45] <raldi> blueyed: Linux zork 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:45] <nickrud> zork?
[01:45] <blueyed> raldi: do you have ubuntu dapper? the current kernel is 2.6.15-25-k7!
[01:45] <blueyed> ..without -k7 maybe :p
[01:45] <triplep> with 'tar' is there a flag that will allow everythign to be dumped into the main level of the tarball, i.e. no sub dirs
[01:45] <Warbo> Raito: When virtualising or emulating you want to run something which requires very few resources. 98 needs (and uses) far less than XP, so it will run faster and give your game more resources (because you don't want to run an OS, you want to run the game)
[01:45] <Sivik> nickrud, please
[01:45] <matgates> Raito: Because you have to activate XP and you'll need another license key for it - it counts as a separate install.
[01:46] <scud> does ubuntu have a gnome app to remove startup services, when i shutdown i see a bittorrent tracker service and raid monitoring (which i dont want or need)?
[01:46] <matgates> Raito: Yeah, also what Warbo said  :)
[01:46] <raldi> blueyed: i'm using breezy .. let me take a look at my grub conf
[01:46] <frying_fish> scud: you can get a text based one
[01:46] <Raito> what is this virtual vmwhatever thing?
[01:46] <frying_fish> sysv-rc-conf
[01:46] <frying_fish> uses perl, gives you a list of the services, and some checkboxes
[01:46] <blueyed> raldi: may be ok, for breezy. I'd dist-upgrade to dapper, anyway.
[01:47] <bioticpro> Looking to buy an Nvidia card... which of these do yall think is best bet?  http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCompare.asp?SubCategory=48&CompareItemList=N82E16814127203%2CN82E16814130014%2CN82E16814133149%2CN82E16814164056
[01:47] <Sivik> pm nickrud
[01:47] <matgates> Raito, it's like microsoft virtual PC...  vmware-player is the ubuntu package which you use to "play" virtual machines (i.e. use them)
[01:47] <scud> frying_fish: what is the linux command to remove services like that?
[01:47] <scud> i know its associated with chklvl or something
[01:47] <Warbo> matgates: I wasn't sure if XP needed another license if you virtualise it on a machine it is installed on (but I assume that you can virtualise it if you have removed it as a host OS, sice a license is transferable)
[01:47] <frying_fish> scud: just install sysv-rc-conf
[01:47] <frying_fish> and then you can turn them off with that.
[01:47] <frying_fish> or decide what levels they are run on.
[01:48] <Warbo> !vmware
[01:48] <ubotu> VMWare player is in the Ubuntu repositories. Install instructions for VMWare server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[01:48] <SurfnKid> Question... on scp
[01:48] <SurfnKid> can you have a commander like screen to transfer files from/to
[01:48] <matgates> Warbo: Well, I tried that since I had a reduntant copy  (nuked the OEM version on my machine 2 mins after it arrived:), but it seems microsoft "know" the hardware config somehow, and the activation on the virtual machine fails.
[01:48] <Raito> well, considering the fact that this computer says Designed for Microsoft Windows 98 on its box, I don't think I'd be too successfull, I guess I have to boot up windows when I need it
[01:49] <hyphenated> SurfnKid: 'mc' can do something like that
[01:49] <Sivik> nickrud: did you still want to talk in pm?
[01:49] <nickrud> Sivik, are you not recieving, I am sending.
[01:49] <nickrud> and registered
[01:50] <SurfnKid> hyphenated: ok.. two machines, both linux, do i use mc thru scp or just mc
[01:50] <Sivik> i guess i'm not recieving
[01:50] <Sivik> it says i'm already identified
[01:50] <Sivik> did you recieve my pm?
[01:50] <Warbo> matgates: Surely that is illegal? Their licence clearly says that you can install it on another machine if you remove it from the first. Either a) VMWare is not counted as a seperate machine, so therefore you can install it as a host and guest with one licence, no problems or b) VMWare is another machine, in which case you can install to it like any other machine as long as it has been removed from your other one
[01:50] <Sivik> do you have an instant messenger program?
[01:51] <nickrud> Sivik, join #nickrud
[01:51] <Warbo> matgates: (I meant that M$ is being illegal, not you)
[01:51] <matgates> Raito: In general I think there are three options if you need to run windows software.  1. use wine (only works for a small number of apps)  2.  Use a virtual machine like vmware.  3.  Dual boot.  2 is a good compromise in my opinion, but it's down to personal requirements.  Of course the BEST thing to do is not be reliant on windows software ;)
[01:51] <InvisiblePinkUni> how do i setup a catchall account for exim4?
[01:51] <hyphenated> SurfnKid: it'll do the ssh/scp part of it for you, I think
[01:51] <matgates> Warbo: *shrug* in either case, it doesn't work.  All the more reason to junk the OS completely. :D
[01:51] <jad_> moonlite, now nvidia installed but max resolution still 1024
[01:51] <SurfnKid> hyphenated: ok gonna try
[01:51] <pekay> hey anyone wanna help with a OpenGL problem?
[01:51] <pekay> :[
[01:52] <Raito> man, the people who do wine reviews sure butter it up, thanks for the help matgates, bye
[01:52] <SurfnKid> hyphenated: do i install mc?
[01:52] <Warbo> matgates: Exactly. I think WINE is mainly useful for porting applications (like Picasa recently)
[01:52] <SurfnKid> hyphenated: command not found
[01:52] <hyphenated> SurfnKid: that'd be a good start ;-)
[01:52] <SurfnKid> oh
[01:52] <SurfnKid> :P
[01:52] <matgates> Raito: I agree that it's hyped.  I think it's cool when it works, but it's not very reliable in my experience.
[01:52] <pekay> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:52] <HellDragon> hi
[01:53] <pekay> :/
[01:53] <erick> #debian-es
[01:53] <matgates> Just my 2 cents though, some people have great success.
[01:53] <riddlebox> what is the correct apt-get cli to install all packages needed to compile an app by source?
[01:53] <Warbo> pekay: You need a 3D driver. What model is your graphics card?
[01:53] <matgates> Warbo: Yeah, I think there's value in the project.  Plus the windows API is not a moving target like some of the linux APIs, so there's some value there.
[01:53] <nickrud> riddlebox, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:53] <gnomefreak> riddlebox: apt-get install build-essential or apt-get build-dep <packagename>
[01:53] <HellDragon> i just putted a CD in my cd player and i cant open it to get my cd out! its stuck
[01:54] <riddlebox> thats it thanks
[01:54] <HellDragon> what i do to get it out ?
[01:54] <gnomefreak> riddlebox: depends if package is in repos or not
[01:54] <matgates> HellDragon: Do you have an icon on the desktop for your cdrom disk?
[01:54] <Warbo> HellDragon: Right click on the desktop icon and select eject :)
[01:54] <HellDragon> yes
[01:54] <nickrud> riddlebox, that is the bare minimum, you'll need more -dev packages for just about everything
[01:54] <twobitspr1te> I had a package fail to install in dapper, and now everytime I install anything it tries to fix this one package... how do I get it to stop?
[01:54] <HellDragon> oh i see thankyou
[01:54] <matgates> HellDragon: right click on it... do you get an eject option?
[01:54] <nickrud> twobitspr1te, have you tried apt-get remove <package> ?
[01:55] <pekay> Warbo: nvidia, NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]
[01:55] <Warbo> !nvidia
[01:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:55] <twobitspr1te> nickrud, same error
[01:55] <Sivik> nickrud, you really don't have to do that for me
[01:55] <twobitspr1te> nickrud, "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[01:55] <pekay> Warbo: opengl worked fine till I installed nvidia stuff
[01:55] <nickrud> twobitspr1te, could you put the full error on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[01:55] <Warbo> pekay: I doubt it, since the Free Software "nv" driver which Ubuntu ships with has no OpenGL support
[01:56] <hyphenated> SurfnKid: I've just had a play to see how to use it. you do something like 'cd /#sh:user@host/' to make the current panel show files from the remote machine
[01:56] <Flippy209> Warbo are you a bot?
[01:56] <nickrud> Sivik, np, I always wondered if it was that easy to put it back. Now is as good a time as any.
[01:56] <Warbo> Flippy209: Shhhhhhhh.......
[01:56] <Sivik> nickrud: ok
[01:56] <Flippy209> teehee
[01:56] <pekay> Warbo: :S, yes but i tested glxgears when i installed Ubuntu ;p
[01:56] <twobitspr1te> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16142
[01:56] <Flippy209> any assistance installing these drivers would be appreciated
[01:56] <pekay> Warbo: and the gears worked
[01:56] <Flippy209> I"m getting errors when I run the mod probe
[01:57] <riddlebox> if I need to have a command run at boot what do I do in /etc/init.d/ to make it happen at every boot?
[01:57] <Flippy209> and then when I run the fix it says module fglrx is in use
[01:57] <Flippy209> so I ss |  grep for it and ps -ef | grep to kill it and I only return my grep
[01:57] <nickrud> mldonkey has been a fubared package for a while,
[01:58] <Warbo> pekay: They will appear, but they have nothing to do with your graphics card. When you use the nv driver the whole OpenGL architecture is made out of software called Mesa which is executed by your CPU. The only thing your graphics card does is make a convienient place to plug your monitor into
[01:58] <matgates> pekay: by default there is a software implementation of the 3d stuff.  It works, but very slowly compared to hadware acceleration.  Becasue glxgears is so simple, it can run in software quite OK... but try to run a heavier app and you'll find the 3d stuff is terribly slow.
[01:58] <eonbluezzz> !porn
[01:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about porn
[01:58] <Warbo> pekay: This is a very slow situation, and doesn;t work for a lot of situations (hence your problem)
[01:59] <moonlite> jad_: then i don't know unfortunately
[01:59] <Warbo> !giving information
[01:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about giving information
[01:59] <Warbo> Yay! :)
[01:59] <loquitus_of_borg> hey people
[01:59] <loquitus_of_borg> how can I find out from the command line if firestarter is running or not?
[01:59] <rixxon> i'd like to browse removed files, with ability to either recover the data, or overwrite it to make recovery impossible - program/package suggestion?
[02:00] <Flippy209> Warbo: does http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16143 help you at all?
[02:00] <nickrud> twobitspr1te, go to the file /var/lib/dpkg/info/mldonkey-server.prerm , and put the text     exit 0    on the second line. Try sudo apt-get install --purge mldonkey-server
[02:00] <pekay> Warbo: alrighty, following the wiki
[02:01] <nickrud> twobitspr1te, erm, sudo apt-get remove --purge mldonkey-server , sorry
[02:01] <Flippy209> I'm following it too, but I am having issues :(
[02:01] <Munchkinguy> Are there any plans to put GNASH into the Universe repository?
[02:01] <Warbo> Flippy209: That happens when you have fglrx installed (it happened to me) use rmmod fglrx
[02:01] <Flippy209> have
[02:01] <Flippy209>  sudo rmmod fglrx
[02:01] <Flippy209> ERROR: Module fglrx is in use
[02:02] <Warbo> Flippy209: Then it obviously hasn't removed it. You must have to do it from a console, I'll change the Wiki
[02:02] <javiolo> how can I compile an app for ppc ?
[02:02] <Flippy209> how can I find the pid for this?
[02:02] <Warbo> Flippy209: Of what?
[02:02] <Flippy209> I'm trying to do it from a console to stop the process
[02:02] <Flippy209> the fglrx
[02:03] <Twinxor> hm, lspci doesn't see my wireless card, even though it's in /sys/bus/pcmcia/drivers/
[02:03] <Jessehk> Should I be using aptitude or apt-get?
[02:03] <Twinxor> how can I fix it?
[02:03] <Blissex> Jessehk: Aptitude is a lot more useful...
[02:03] <Twinxor> Jessehk, synaptic is the most user-friendly one
[02:03] <Warbo> Flippy209: You need to stop X with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop", fglrx is a driver. "stopping" it would involve stopping your kernel :)
[02:03] <Flippy209> and yes, I did already have it installed. I installed it last night, plays wow pretty crappy
[02:03] <Sivik> nickrud, now i'm missing the miles folder
[02:03] <Jessehk> Blissex : How?
[02:03] <Blissex> Jessehk: if you prefer GUI Synaptic, but it is less finely controllable than Aptitude.
[02:03] <Flippy209> eek
[02:03] <wilerson> Hi all. I'm using Dapper and, just after I installed, my sound was working fine. Then I installed some video and audio players and I think one of them modified my configuration files, because since then my sound got scrambled. Is there some way for me to restore the older configuration of the soundboard or to reconfigure it?
[02:03] <erick> ubuntu-es
[02:04] <Flippy209> that command will let me run the next one though?
[02:04] <erick> #ubuntu-es
[02:04] <Twinxor> aptitude/synaptic are just nicer because they have an interface
[02:04] <nickrud> Sivik, I did that a long time ago, I vaguely followed a howto on the nwn forums. I think the gold one. But it was over a year ago.
[02:04] <Blissex> Jessehk: with Aptitude you can see what you can install, do searches using a query language, and explore the tree of dependencies of individual packages
[02:04] <Twinxor> the functionality and end effect is the same
[02:04] <Twinxor> any ideas about getting this card recognized by lspci?
[02:04] <Warbo> Flippy209: Your graphics session will log out (so save any changes :)) then you can edit your stuff (I was doing all of my editing from a console since I had no working X at this time :))
[02:04] <Jessehk> Blissex Twinxor : Thanks :)
[02:04] <Blissex> Twinxor: Aptitude has facilities like the query language that mean its functionality is a lot more than 'apt-get' or Synaptic.
[02:05] <pekay> Warbo: got some X Server error on the "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[02:05] <Twinxor> neat, haven't used that, Blissex
[02:05] <reqage> can anyone point me to a good walk through on installing peerguardian or moblock?
[02:05] <reqage> some of the threads on the forums don't seem to work
[02:06] <Slyboots> Okay, I've been at this for hours, I have *NO* freaking idea why this is not working
[02:06] <Twinxor> frankly, I wouldn't bother - peerguardian is a joke as far as acutal security
[02:06] <reqage> using it mostly for the blocklist
[02:06] <Raito> I installed the sun-java5-bin package, but how do I get java to work in firefox?
[02:07] <Twinxor> IIRC, there's no reason to believe the blocklist actually discourages RIAA/MPAA nastygrams
[02:07] <nickrud> Raito, install the sun-java5-plugin package I believe
[02:07] <Raito> oh, so what is the bin package for? for the desktop?
[02:07] <wilerson> Raito: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[02:08] <Raito> I used that site >_<
[02:08] <Warbo> pekay: I never use that tool myself, so I would do it manually (replace: Driver                   "nv" with: Driver                      "nvidia")
[02:08] <reqage> also, got another question but about wine
[02:08] <reqage> how do I install an .exe with wine?
[02:08] <pekay> Warbo: where? :S
[02:08] <Warbo> reqage: "wine filename.exe"
[02:08] <Sivik> nickrud: go ahead and send me those files please
[02:09] <Warbo> pekay: Look for it. It will be under the mouse and keyboard stuff
[02:09] <blocky> anybody know offhand what package i need for the gtk dev files
[02:09] <ramonsa> hello!
[02:09] <reqage> thanks warbo
[02:09] <Sivik> nickrud: you wanna ssh into my machine, that would probably be the easiest way
[02:10] <nickrud> Sivik, sure, that would be acceptable.
[02:10] <pekay> Warbo: oh this "	Driver		"nvidia""
[02:10] <Sivik> nickrud: join me in that channel again
[02:10] <Warbo> pekay: It already says it?
[02:10] <pekay> Warbo: had "nv"
[02:10] <pekay> changed to "nvidia"
[02:10] <pekay> i restart X Server now?
[02:10] <Warbo> pekay: Ah, OK (I was a little confused there, as this may have been a serious problem!)
[02:10] <pekay> hah
[02:10] <Warbo> pekay: Yes
[02:10] <pekay> okay
[02:11] <Warbo> Slyboots: Maybe the monitor connection came out when you hit it?
[02:11] <Slyboots> . . .
[02:11] <ramonsa> Question: I am trying to update to Dapper from breezy but i fail to disable LVM with sudo vgchange -a n. Any help?
[02:12] <dalphi> do you have any open LV's?
[02:12] <wilerson> A friend of mine is using ubuntu 5.10 on his laptop HP ze2430, but he can't get video output unless plugging in an external monitor. Any help?
[02:12] <SurfnKid> hyphenated: ok i have to install mc first, and i cant, so.. let me ask you this, does mc have to run on both server/client or just one
[02:12] <ramonsa> dalphi: yes system responds like so:  Can't deactivate volume group "Ubuntu" with 2 open logical volume(s)
[02:12] <dashriKe> ubuntu is smarter than me
[02:13] <dashriKe> curse groming up on windows
[02:13] <pekay> Warbo: thanks alot :] ] ]  works!
[02:13] <dashriKe> *growing
[02:13] <dalphi> ramonsa: does 'df' show any LV's mounted?
[02:13] <Warbo> I'm gonna try getting Enlightenment to work at login now, so I may not be available (I am stuck in one desktop for now)
[02:13] <Slyboots> Bloody linux..
[02:13] <Slyboots> Pain in the ass
[02:13] <Warbo> Slyboots: Take that laptop out of....
[02:14] <asko> helpmeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[02:14] <rixxon> if i didn't securely remove a file (with eg. "wipe"), how can i do it after normally deleted?
[02:15] <asko> my APT-GET not Service
[02:15] <rixxon> asko: are you running apt-get as root?
[02:15] <rixxon> asko: "sudo apt-get ..."?
[02:15] <asko> yes
[02:15] <asko> de root
[02:15] <apokryphos> !helpme
[02:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:15] <rixxon> asko: did you break sources.list? :P
[02:15] <asko> of root
[02:15] <Warbo> rixxon: I don't know other than backing up your wanted data and dumping zeros and random data to the partition before formatting it and reinstalling
[02:15] <ramonsa> dalphi: df only shows the following: /   ,   /dev/shm   ,   /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-a md64-generic/volatile
[02:15] <ramonsa>   ,  /local , /media/alcar , and I am sory to admit /windows.
[02:16] <mcrandello_> semi serious data erasure "sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=file;rm -rf file" then sit back and pick up a good book, this may take a while
[02:16] <rixxon> Warbo: well - technically it should be possible to overwrite it afterwards; just not sure if there exist such a program
[02:16] <Warbo> asko: What does "sudo apt-get update" say?
[02:16] <rixxon> Warbo: im thinking like a combination of some file recovery program and "wipe"
[02:17] <mcrandello_> that'll wipe everything in the free space on that partition
[02:17] <asko> nou
[02:17] <asko> ok
[02:17] <asko> tested
[02:17] <Warbo> rixxon: Exactly. The data is still there, but becomes detached from the filesystem. If it is detached then how do you know which bits to overwrite (eg. where is it?)
[02:17] <rixxon> mcrandello_: problem is i already deleted the files ;)
[02:17] <Twinxor> ok, so what the heck
[02:17] <asko> root@askopc:~ # sudo apt-get update
[02:17] <asko> Reading Package Lists... Done
[02:18] <Warbo> mcrandello_: Ah, good idea there
[02:18] <Twinxor> I'm using this PCMCIA wireless card right now, but it's not seen by lspci!
[02:18] <jrib> asko: you don't need to use sudo if you are root
[02:18] <rixxon> Warbo: well, several programs exist which can recover it - hence it should aswell be possible to simply overwrite it
[02:18] <mcrandello_> rixxon: that will fill every bit of free space on your partition with random gobbledygook
[02:18] <mcrandello_> then delete it
[02:18] <Warbo> asko: No errors? The what is the problem?
[02:18] <Twinxor> how can the system not see it?
[02:18] <mcrandello_> it's slow, but effective
[02:18] <rixxon> mcrandello_: wont that break the system? :S
[02:18] <mcrandello_> just the free space
[02:18] <nickrud> twobitspr1te, any success?
[02:18] <dalphi> ramanso:  whats 'df | grep -i ubuntu' have as its output?
[02:18] <ic56> rixxon: you could try to manually locate the blocks originally occupied by teh file and clear just those.  However, since you have no information about the original inode, block numbers, etc, this becomes a very advanced and dangerous exercise
[02:19] <mcrandello_> it may hang for a few seconds if it's the root filesystem :<
[02:19] <mcrandello_> err :V
[02:19] <rixxon> mcrandello_: what does 'file' represent in your command?
[02:20] <Warbo> rixxon: With your suggestion it would seem to work in something like FAT, but many Linux filesystems juggle data around to stop fragmentation and things, so an undelete utility may just make a copy of the data as it adds it back to the filesystem (then you can securely delete the recovered data, but the original is still there)
[02:20] <rixxon> ic56: well somehow those recovery programs can do it...
[02:20] <mcrandello_> "of" is "output file" so it creates a file named file.
[02:20] <Twinxor> help with lspci? pretty please?
[02:20] <dalphi> rixxon: if you fill the filesystem where the file was located 3-4 times, you should be ok
[02:20] <ramonsa> dalphi: output is as follows: /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root
[02:20] <mcrandello_> once you're out of space it errors out, then the next command after the semicolon comes up "rm -rf file"
[02:21] <Warbo> mcrandello_: AHA! I never undertood the "if" and "of" of dd before. I thought it was just a stupid convention from decades ago :)
[02:21] <mcrandello_> it is (not stupid, just a convention)
[02:21] <Warbo> mcrandello_: lol
[02:21] <Twinxor> :(
[02:21] <mcrandello_> everything is a file
[02:21] <ic56> rixxon: maybe never tried it on Linux.
[02:21] <ic56> rixxon: maybe. never tried it on Linux.
[02:21] <dalphi> ramonsa: can you go to single user mode and unmount /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root ?
[02:22] <rixxon> dalphi: yea but i have no idea where it was ;) - was thinking if there was some program that worked like recovery programs except it securely wipes the data
[02:22] <nickrud> Twinxor, lspci in a console ?
[02:22] <MattSta> is there any way to install 3ds max. I NEED IT
[02:22] <rixxon> ic56: me neither. nor windows. just heard it is possible lol
[02:22] <Sivik> nickrud, are you installing nwn?
[02:22] <Twinxor> yes, in console
[02:22] <Slyboots> Hmm..
[02:22] <Warbo> Twinxor: I don;t think PCMCIA cards show up in lspci (although the PCMCIA contoller might)
[02:22] <mcrandello_> and if you've overwritten the thing once with random data and they're going to the trouble to get it back you must have done something REALLY bad
[02:22] <nickrud> Sivik, installed. About to try
[02:22] <Slyboots> XDGA: info found 86 Modules
[02:22] <Twinxor> ohh, ok
[02:22] <Slyboots> What the heck?
[02:22] <Sivik> nickrud: could you send me the miles folder?
[02:22] <Twinxor> see, the cardbus thing shows up
[02:22] <dalphi> since you removed it, obviously going to be hard to find. if the filesystem is not too large, then it won't take too long
[02:22] <Warbo> Twinxor: Look in /proc somewhere
[02:22] <Twinxor> thanks Warbo
[02:23] <MattSta> CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP
[02:23] <Twinxor> that was drviing me nuts - guess I'm used to normal pci cards
[02:23] <ramonsa> dalphi: I am afraid I do not know how to go to single user mode. Is that just <ctl> <alt> f3, or someting like that?
[02:23] <Twinxor> MattSta, you could use WINE
[02:23] <Sivik> nickrud: can you do that for me?
[02:23] <HellDragon> brb
[02:23] <Warbo> Twinxor: Sorry I was busy with other people before (see, I remembered your original question and didn't even need to scrool up :))
[02:23] <Flippy209> hey warbo, could you like that wiki page again? I can't boot into anything except text now
[02:23] <MattSta> what is WINE
[02:23] <rixxon> mcrandello_: oh i see how your command line works now - how smart!
[02:23] <Twinxor> but it can be challenging, so it might be easiest to run under windows
[02:23] <KhZilla> wine is not an emulator
[02:23] <Sivik> nickrud: are you there?
[02:23] <Sivik> wine is an emulator
[02:23] <MattSta> I can't use windows
[02:23] <Warbo> Flippy209: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RadeonDriverHowto
[02:24] <Flippy209> thank you sir
[02:24] <Sivik> MattSta, what are you trying to run?
[02:24] <Flippy209> google'd all over for that
[02:24] <MattSta> 3ds max
[02:24] <Twinxor> MattSta, http://www.winehq.com/ might have some details on that program
[02:24] <rixxon> mcrandello_: i guess replacing 'rm -rf' with 'wipe' would make it even more secure...
[02:24] <Sivik> MattSta, try crossover office
[02:24] <Twinxor> you'll need to get it working, get your video card working, and you'll need a bit of luck..
[02:24] <nickrud> Sivik, still working, copied from the dvd
[02:24] <MattSta> whats crossover office?
[02:24] <Warbo> MattSta: That may be a little complex for WINE, and the 3D might go very slow.
[02:24] <mcrandello_> rixxon: what does wipe do? remember you'll be doing it to the balance of the free space on your HD ;P
[02:24] <Sivik> nickrud: so the game is working?
[02:24] <asko> exit
[02:24] <Sivik> MattSta,  google it
[02:24] <nickrud> Sivik, yes
[02:25] <Sivik> nickrud: did it load the prolouge maps and stuff
[02:25] <Warbo> Flippy209: Google won;t have it since I only wrote it about half an hour ago :)
[02:25] <Sivik> nickrud: or are you still just creating a character?
[02:25] <nickrud> Sivik, no, as I best recall, the movies don't play in linux. I just reloaded a saved game
[02:25] <GUARDiAN|nb> hi
[02:25] <rixxon> mcrandello_: wipe deletes the file and overwrites it several times
[02:25] <mcrandello_> also you could use /dev/zero and make the hd look like this -><PHONE_NUMBER>00 000000
[02:25] <Sivik> nickrud: i don't care much about the movies
[02:25] <Sivik> nickrud: could you send me the miles folder?
[02:26] <mcrandello_> rixxon: wipe might take a while :)
[02:26] <rixxon> mcrandello_: yes :P
[02:26] <KhZilla> anyone know how to disable the hibernate option in X?
[02:26] <Warbo> rixxon: Wipe random data? "Oh no! People can see my %*(&%()*! What will I do!?"
[02:26] <nickrud> Sivik, I don't see the miles folder at the top level, where is it
[02:26] <GUARDiAN|nb> is it possible to somehow "remap" mousebuttons? e.g if button "12" is pressed the software thinks that button "2" has been pressed?
[02:26] <nickrud> Sivik, nm
[02:26] <Warbo> (BTW, that was not meant to be censorship :))
[02:26] <Sivik> it should be in the nwn folder
[02:26] <Slyboots> Hm.. can you disable DGA access in Xorg?
[02:27] <nickrud> sure, it's tiny
[02:27] <Sivik> nickrud, thanks
[02:27] <mcrandello_> if it's that important a fine mixture of powdered iron and alum, ignited with a magnesium torch would do the trick
[02:27] <Sivik> its sftp user@ipaddress and then its just ftp
[02:27] <Warbo> mcrandello_: lol (have you been looking at slashdot?)
[02:27] <Sivik> nickrud, does that make sense?
[02:27] <Twinxor> Warbo, /sys/bus/pcmcia/devices/ had it, thanks
[02:28] <mcrandello_> Warbo, somethingawful
[02:28] <MattSta> will MAX work in crossover
[02:28] <Warbo> Twinxor: np (I don;t have a PCMCIA bus in my PC so I didn;t know the location)
[02:28] <Sivik> MattSta, not sure, no one has tried
[02:28] <Warbo> MattSta: They will probably have a list of supported applications
[02:28] <mcrandello_> MattSta: certainly doesn't like Wine http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=343
[02:29] <mcrandello_> although I almost had gmax running, which is the same codebase I think as max5
[02:29] <Sivik> Warbo: it says it on the crossover office website, but no one has tried to get it to work, no testers
[02:29] <Warbo> Sivik: Ah. Would my 30 day trial from 3D World magazine count? :)
[02:29] <mcrandello_> I had to use xwine or cedega or one of those wine versions with the fancy 3d libs
[02:29] <MattSta> it does have a list but i didnt see it there
[02:29] <Twinxor> MattSta, it looks to me like 3D Studio Max has a native linux version
[02:30] <Sivik> nickrud, join the other channel
[02:30] <Sivik> Twinxor, really?
[02:30] <Twinxor> according to a quick google
[02:30] <Warbo> I know Maya has a native Linux/UNIX version
[02:31] <Warbo> And Blender :)
[02:31] <pibe86> helo hola?
[02:31] <pibe86> hello
[02:32] <samsonasu> hola
[02:32] <Twinxor> yeah, or any of several OSS 3D modelers
[02:32] <pibe86> hola
[02:32] <pibe86> me pueden ayudar
[02:32] <pibe86> can anybody help me?
[02:32] <Twinxor> si
[02:32] <npfet> anyone have a dell e1505/6400, or really any laptop with an ati x1400 card, and has tried suspend-to-ram?
[02:32] <Warbo> !helpme
[02:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:32] <MattSta> do you know where i can a place to try it
[02:33] <npfet> (wanted to get an overall impression of how it works)
[02:33] <npfet> (how well it works rather...)
[02:33] <MattSta> yeah
[02:33] <usul> ok, i got a msg to go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org to upgrade to dapper, then theres nothing about upgrading on the page-- what gives?
[02:34] <ramonsa> dalphi, How do I go to single user mode to issue the umount command?
[02:34] <Milk_> good evening
[02:34] <Twinxor> usul, you can do apt-get dist-upgrade if you want to upgrade
[02:34] <Warbo> How do I change the root window when I log in? I use chbg, but it always starts out as Ubuntu brown stuff
[02:34] <pibe86> i bought an ati (video card) x550 pci express 256mb, and  i cant enter to ubuntu in grafic mode, any knows what to do to enter in grafic mode???
[02:35] <Twinxor> of course, that downloads a million packages and may break stuff
[02:35] <rixxon> "recover" didn't find any "inodes" so perhaps the files are already lost (i guess if some professional tried to recover them he might succeed better than "recover" but i doubt anyone will even care to look at my hard drive...)
[02:35] <Flippy209> Warbo; I'm getting errors with this command from your page : sudo echo "radeon" >> /etc/modules
[02:35] <twobitspr1te> nickrud, er, sorry... had something come up and I didn't see your response
[02:35] <Flippy209> permission denied
[02:35] <usul> Twinxor is that all?? why isnt there a page on the site about this?? youd think with all the trouble they go to making disks,
[02:35] <pibe86> i bought an ati (video card) x550 pci express 256mb, and  i cant enter to ubuntu in grafic mode, any knows what to do to enter in grafic mode???
[02:35] <usul> that they would make a link
[02:35] <Warbo> Flippy209: Just do "sudo nano /etc/modules" and put "radeon" at the end
[02:36] <Twinxor> really, the home page doesn't have any fanfare about it?
[02:36] <Milk_> Am I just being over sensitive, or does there seem to be a LOT of updates for a new release?
[02:36] <Twinxor> that's kind of silly
[02:36] <usul> Even a search for upgrade dapper gives nothinng of use!!!
[02:36] <pibe86> please!!
[02:36] <pibe86> please!!
[02:36] <pibe86> i bought an ati (video card) x550 pci express 256mb, and  i cant enter to ubuntu in grafic mode, any knows what to do to enter in grafic mode???
[02:36] <nickrud> twobitspr1te, the problem is in the prerm script. A hack would be to edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/mldonkey-server.prerm , and put exit 0 on the second line. Then, sudo apt-get remove --purge mldonkey-server. That should do the job
[02:36] <usul> isnt it obvious users are going to upgrade?
[02:36] <unforcer> hey.. what is the command where you see what type of ethernet connection is it 100Fulldublex or Gigabyte?
[02:36] <Twinxor> oh, so no upgrade-specific information?
[02:37] <Milk_> pibe86, I don't run ATI anymore, but I believe theres some info in the wiki about it
[02:37] <_Spire_> !ati
[02:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:37] <Twinxor> well, there's a wiki page or two about it if that's what you're looking for
[02:37] <pibe86> Milk_ wiki? wheress taht??
[02:37] <_Spire_> or this
[02:37] <_Spire_> !fglrx
[02:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:37] <_Spire_> hmm... now has the same thing
[02:37] <pibe86> thnaks
[02:38] <pibe86> i am gonna look
[02:38] <usul> So is there a page to upgrade anywhere??
[02:38] <Twinxor> usul, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[02:38] <Warbo> pibe86: A Wiki is a webpage which anyone can improve (I just added my own guide about an hour ago to the Ubuntu Wiki)
[02:38] <eugman> Can someone tell me how to request a key from a server using gpg?
[02:38] <Twinxor> I agree it should be more prominent
[02:38] <Milk_> pibe86, wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:38] <PORDO> how do i change the default settings for new users as they are created?  i just edited "default" in "User Profile Editor", but it didn't work--I created a new user, and he has the standard ugly brown ubuntu look.
[02:39] <nickrud> eugman, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic has instructions at the top
[02:39] <Twinxor> it's not ugly, it's human
[02:39] <HellDragon> wow im playing tetris with noatun lol http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/175/snapshot48nq.png
[02:39] <PORDO> lol
[02:39] <eugman> thanks
[02:39] <PORDO> in any case, how do i make all those settings i took 10 minutes changing stick.
[02:40] <Warbo> PORDO: make a new user and set it up how you want default. Then copy every file beginning with a dot from their home into /etc/skel
[02:40] <usul> Twinxor thanks!! They should really point their users to the right page instead of making it so hard to find. Couldnt they turn it into a one-click upgrade, like they do for the updates^^
[02:40] <usul> ?
[02:40] <Sivik> nickrud, you still playing?
[02:40] <nickrud> Sivik, nah just tested it
[02:40] <Twinxor> well, it's a major upgrade - and in principle Breezy is still supported for a couple more years!
[02:41] <nickrud> Twinxor, less than a year left, actually
[02:41] <warlocky> how do i unmount the cd drive?
[02:41] <gustavor> what is the recommend or "official" IMAP solution for an ubuntu server?
[02:41] <warlocky> I cant seem to get the friggin CD out
[02:41] <warlocky> >.<
[02:41] <PORDO> Warbo should the permissions be set to root or anything particular?
[02:41] <Twinxor> ah well
[02:41] <nickrud> gustavor, dovecot is included in main, I guess that makes it the official one
[02:42] <warlocky> how do i unmount the cd drive?
[02:42] <Warbo> PORDO: I think you leave the permissions as they are for the user and the owner is automatically set. I would still make them owned by root though, since it seems "cleaner" to me
[02:42] <Sivik> warlocky, umount /mount/location
[02:42] <PORDO> you can now add your google calendar to your web page.  http://brokenladder.com/index.php?page=shows
[02:44] <Warbo> !vmware
[02:44] <ubotu> VMWare player is in the Ubuntu repositories. Install instructions for VMWare server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[02:44] <rigonatti> does anyone know why everytime I tri to run "make" got this error ?  make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[02:44] <Twinxor> boy howdy, I sure do love it when Xorg spikes to 98% CPU use
[02:45] <vanberge> would anybody be willing to offer me some assistance wiht playing movie files?  i dont understand because this worked yesterday.
[02:45] <samsonasu> rigonatti what are you trying to make
[02:45] <_Spire_> rigonatti: are you the folder where the source is?
[02:45] <Twinxor> I hate having a responsive system
[02:45] <vanberge> i get the following error from totem:  Video codec 'XviD' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[02:45] <lufis> Hi... I read somewhere that it's possible to mix and match different things in the desktop environment. Like using a replacement for nautilus, for instance. Can someone direct me to some alternative apps for this?
[02:45] <ramonsa> dalphi i get "device busy" when I issue umount /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root from what I believe is single user mode (ie. <ctl> <alt> f3)).
[02:45] <samsonasu> vanberge i use www.videolan.org to play videos and it handles all the popular codecs
[02:45] <rigonatti> samsonasu ..im trying to instal the Synce projetc...I need to install the synce-rra ....btw.... ./bootstrap is ok ...../configure too ... but make give me this error
[02:45] <_Spire_> !xvid
[02:45] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[02:45] <warlocky> how do i see the current DHCP ip ?
[02:46] <Arafangi1n> warlocky: ifconfig
[02:46] <rigonatti> Arafangi1n  ifconfig
[02:46] <rixxon> don't terminal processes die on ^Z?
[02:46] <jrib> lufis: thunar might be one
[02:46] <_Spire_> warlocky: ifconfig
[02:46] <vanberge> samsonasu: cant i use totem though?
[02:46] <jrib> rixxon: suspended
[02:46] <rigonatti> rixxon  try ^C
[02:46] <lufis> jrib: Thanks!
[02:46] <warlocky> thanks, and how do i unmount the cd-drive? it doesnt work with unmount /mount/cd
[02:46] <Arafangi1n> rigonatti: Man, you're _slow_ :)
[02:46] <Twinxor> lufis, what in particular are you looking to replace - the window manager, the file manager, etc?
[02:46] <_Spire_> rixxon: i thought ^C
[02:46] <vanberge> its just so frustrating because it worked yesterday!
[02:46] <rixxon> jrib: well i have a 'ping google' still running (sleeping) from like yesterday!
[02:46] <rigonatti> ops.....=/
[02:46] <lufis> Twinxor: Nothing really, I just wanted to experiment and find the best combination
[02:47] <rixxon> ^C don't always work, can be overriden etc
[02:47] <protocol2> rigonatti, you need to specify what it is you want to make and where you want it to go
[02:47] <Twinxor> running other window managers on GNOME is a little hilarious
[02:47] <rigonatti> protocol2 i see a makefile.am ...is that file ?
[02:47] <lufis> Twinxor: Ha, how do you mean?
[02:47] <warlocky> thanks, and how do i unmount the cd-drive? it doesnt work with unmount /mount/cd
[02:47] <Twinxor> well, it makes the integrated desktop environment a complete mishmash
[02:47] <warlocky> Anyone? gnomefreak
[02:48] <GUARDiAN|nb> ok, i found that i can remap mousebuttons using xmodmap... now the problem is: i'm using a notebook, and i want to use the additional buttons on an usb-mouse that's not always connected
[02:48] <Twinxor> it might work better, but it just looks funny
[02:48] <lufis> Twinxor: Ah, I see. So you wouldn't recommend it?
[02:48] <protocol2> your asking the wrong person.....you might want to ask someone familiar with make
[02:48] <Twinxor> nah, play around with it for fun
[02:48] <jrib> lufis: ctrl-z sends SIGSTOP
[02:48] <warlocky> How do i unmount the cd drive so i can get the CD out of the server? <- ANYONE ?
[02:48] <protocol2> i just know how it works in general
[02:48] <Twinxor> warlocky, umount?
[02:48] <lufis> jrib: What?
[02:48] <Sivik> warlocky: sudo umount /dev/cdrom
[02:48] <rigonatti> Anyone....Does anyone here sync a Pocket PC with Linux ??
[02:48] <mcrandello_> warlocky: is there a cd icon on the desktop?
[02:49] <warlocky> I use dapper server
[02:49] <mcrandello_> oh
[02:49] <GUARDiAN|nb> as far as i understand, the xmodmap does only work on the inputdevice that has the "CorePointer"-option, but if i add this option to xorg.conf for the external mouse it won't start x when the mouse isn't connected...
[02:49] <warlocky> root@zkillz:~# umount /dev/cdrom
[02:49] <warlocky> umount: /dev/cdrom: not mounted
[02:49] <warlocky> hmpfh ?
[02:49] <Warbo> What exactly has changed with all of the documentation stuff?
[02:49] <warlocky> I cant seem to get the cd out ^^,
[02:49] <mcrandello_> type "umount /dev/cd" and then hit tab
[02:49] <jrib> lufis: maybe it will make more sense if you run a program, press ctrl-z and try to use the program
[02:50] <lufis> Jrib: Ok...
[02:50] <warlocky> Yeah i did
[02:50] <warlocky> got cdrom
[02:50] <_Spire_> rigonatti:  it should be Makefile not Makefile.am
[02:50] <warlocky> didnt work
[02:50] <warlocky> :E
[02:50] <rixxon> warlocky: uh try /media/cdrom or cdrom0
[02:50] <ramonsa> bye!
[02:50] <jrib> lufis: it's like a pause button
[02:50] <Twinxor> damn, any reason Xorg is using so much CPU?
[02:50] <Twinxor> it just goes nuts sometimes!
[02:50] <_Spire_> rigonatti: try reading the 'readme' file or typing 'sudo automake'
[02:50] <Twinxor> maybe I need real video drivers
[02:50] <rigonatti> _Spire_ Makefile returns command not found
[02:51] <rigonatti> _Spire_ the readme file just show to run make ..then make install
[02:51] <_Spire_> rigonatti: hmm
[02:51] <_Spire_> rigonatti: did you try automake?
[02:51] <vanberge> would somebody please offer me help playing avi files with totem?   i've done the restricted formats tutorial off the wiki and still cannot play these files
[02:51] <rigonatti> _Spire_ automake returns nothing ...
[02:51] <rixxon> vanberge: try vlc or mplayer
[02:52] <ramon> ola
[02:52] <_Spire_> rigonatti: one more thing: post the output of "whereis automake"
[02:52] <KevinIN72> Does Mysql start up when ubuntu starts??
[02:52] <vanberge> rixxon: i'd rather fix the underlying issue vs. trying different apps...  :-(
[02:52] <rixxon> vanberge: pf. :(
[02:52] <rigonatti> automake: /usr/bin/automake /usr/bin/X11/automake /usr/share/automake /usr/share/man/man1/automake.1.gz
[02:53] <vanberge> rixxon: there must be some reason why it is not working, right?
[02:53] <rixxon> vanberge: sure you did everything in RestrictedFormats? seems to work for most other people
[02:53] <vanberge> rixxon: yes.... because i could play this same movie file yesterday
[02:53] <vanberge> but i cannot today
[02:53] <rixxon> vanberge: oops :)
[02:53] <_Spire_> rigonatti: then try 'sudo automake'
[02:54] <vanberge> rixxon: i even went back through and re-did the steps
[02:54] <rigonatti> _ Spire_    i had...no error return
[02:54] <rixxon> vanberge: uh *stupid idea* perhaps something screwed up the packages, try reinstall them? :S
[02:54] <rixxon> vanberge: oh
[02:54] <Sivik> nickrud: could you send me a nwn thats the executiable?
[02:54] <_Spire_> rigonatti: now try make
[02:54] <pibe86> thanks a lot i am going to do it then tell you
[02:54] <pibe86> bye
[02:54] <rigonatti> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[02:54] <vanberge> rixxon:  would installing totem-xine package mess up something?
[02:54] <hexagene> hi there
[02:54] <_Spire_> rigonatti: uh oh.
[02:54] <vanberge> i think thats where it went wrong
[02:55] <rixxon> vanberge: it might? i mean i guess it is possible?
[02:55] <_Spire_> rigonatti: I feel a bit stupid... I just had an idea
[02:55] <rixxon> vanberge: anyways, i doubt i'll be able to help you, i'm basically a beginner
[02:55] <hexagene> has anyone had problems with bad character output in GCC error messages (dapper + gcc 4.0.3)
[02:55] <_Spire_> rigonatti: try running ./configure
[02:55] <rigonatti> i had....works fine...
[02:55] <vanberge> thank you rixxon.  :-)
[02:55] <MTecknology> I got rid of my Windows partition... How can I change Ubuntu to be on hda1 instead of hda2, How do I make Ubuntu take up my whole hard drive, How do I edit my grub menu???
[02:55] <dooglus> rigonatti: what are you trying to build?
[02:56] <_Spire_> !grub
[02:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making grub floppys: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToMakeAGRUBBootFloppy - grub howto: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[02:56] <rigonatti> dooglus...its a module to synce =/  Gnome isnt soo fine :(
[02:56] <dooglus> rigonatti: I don't understand 'synce'
[02:56] <Twinxor> oh, ubotu is a pretty cool idea
[02:56] <Twinxor> !ubotu
[02:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:56] <vanberge> does the restrictedformats tutorial include Xvid encoded videos??
[02:56] <Twinxor> hehe, neat
[02:56] <rigonatti> its a tar.gz file .....a module to another app
[02:56] <apokryphos> vanberge: yes
[02:57] <dooglus> rigonatti: can you pastebin a directory listing?
[02:57] <rixxon> vanberge: sure you read it? :P
[02:57] <rigonatti> then ....i follow the readme isntructions.... ./bootstrap ..then ./configure ...but then make give a error
[02:57] <Sivik> nickrud, you still around?
[02:57] <KevinIN72> does anyone here use webmin at all
[02:57] <vanberge> apokryphos: sorry i am just frustrated
[02:57] <vanberge> i have been struggling with this for like 2 hours
[02:57] <dooglus> rigonatti: does ./configure give any errors?
[02:57] <rigonatti> no...runs fine ...
[02:58] <dooglus> rigonatti: it should create "Makefile" but it doesn't.
[02:58] <ic56> MTecknology: the simplest solution is to leave the ubuntu installation where it is and to use the space previously pointed to by hda1 as an extra filesystem to be mounted under your existing setup.
[02:58] <paradizelost> hey all, how do i change the max file size in apache? i'm trying to have the dapper DVD iso available, but it doesn't show.
[02:58] <dooglus> rigonatti: doesn't it say "creating Makefile" towards the end?
[02:58] <rigonatti> well.. i see a makefile.am ...and a makefile.in
[02:58] <rigonatti> nope
[02:58] <dooglus> rigonatti: sure, but you need a Makefile.  configure should create makefile from makefile.in
[02:58] <ic56> MTecknology: the right solution, ultimately depends on your existing disk layout and your intended disk consumption for different tasks
[02:59] <dooglus> rigonatti: do you see 'makefile'?
[02:59] <tomsdimension> does anybody know a filesytem that is compatible with win and linux other than fat32
[02:59] <dooglus> tomsdimension: fat16
[02:59] <rigonatti> nope....
[02:59] <paradizelost> ext2&3
[02:59] <paradizelost> with the driver
[02:59] <_Spire_> tomsdimension: ntfs to a slight extent
[02:59] <tomsdimension> something where i dont have to install a driver
[02:59] <MTecknology> ic56, I already have nothing in that space now... I wanted to expand my Ubuntu partition to fill the HD and use w/e I need for a Windows image for qemu
[02:59] <tomsdimension> i have a portable hd
[02:59] <paradizelost> tomsdimension: then your out of options
[03:00] <Flippy209> horray readon video drivers
[03:00] <rigonatti> Im almost givin up of Gnome.... KDE seem to have better solutions :(
[03:00] <dooglus> rigonatti: can you paste the output of './confugire'?
[03:00] <Flippy> that's better
[03:00] <Sivik> nickrud, what does it mean when it can't load the module nor unpack the module
[03:00] <ic56> MTecknology: what is "w/e"?
[03:00] <MTecknology> what ever
[03:00] <samsonasu> flippy i know what you mean i just got my nvidia drivers installed
[03:00] <Sivik> nickrud, nvm
[03:00] <goudkov> hi guys. is there a way to tell rsync to stick to only one file system? so when I specify / as the source, it would not go into /proc /sys /dev/shm etc.
[03:00] <paradizelost> How do i enable large files in apache?
[03:00] <Flippy> took some messing
[03:00] <samsonasu> it looks way better already
[03:00] <MusicEatingPanda> how do i stop a update warning on somthing i wish to not update
[03:00] <samsonasu> really?  mine i just installed the package and it worked like magic
[03:00] <vanberge> FINALLY IT WORKS
[03:01] <samsonasu> its gonna take some messing to get my second monitor up though ill bet
[03:01] <rigonatti> dooglus I dont know if is a good idea...to much work for just one app ..
[03:01] <twobitspr1te> nickrud, that did the trick, thanks
[03:01] <vanberge> i re-installed libgxine and its fixed
[03:01] <mortal5> I have a problem, screen isn't passing the F2 key to vim
[03:01] <rigonatti> can someone help me to unistall gnome and put KDE ?
[03:01] <dooglus> rigonatti: ok, it's up to you.
[03:01] <Flippy> well I had the package from ATI but I am trying out Warbos method
[03:01] <rigonatti> txs anyway dooglus ...real txs!
[03:01] <rigonatti> can someone help me to unistall gnome and put KDE ?
[03:01] <Flippy> hey warbo, I had a question about the tweaking that you did on the wiki page
[03:02] <dooglus> rigonatti: that'll be more work than compiling one program
[03:02] <rigonatti> dooglus at least i will have synce working .. :D
[03:02] <cvp> I have a music library that is named in the format "Uknown Artist - [Actual Artist]  - [Song] ". Is there a quick CLA command I can use to chop off the "Uknown Artist - " portions instead of going through every song individually?
[03:02] <Flippy> bah nvm direct rendering = no
[03:02] <ic56> MTecknology: there is no need to expand your ubuntu partition -- unless you are concerned about internal fragmentation.  You probably don't know what that is, so I stand by my answer: create a ext3 filesystem in /dev/hda1 and just mount it in Ubuntu.
[03:03] <Aesop> Ok, so. Dual-monitor setup, 1 monitor is displaying the correct resolution of 1280x1024, the second is supposed to be at that. Last week it stepped down to 1024/860- and for it's 860-620
[03:03] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[03:03] <Sivik> is there a way to remove a folder and move the files to the main folder, all with one command?
[03:03] <Aesop> Anyi deas on whats causing this and how I fix it?
[03:03] <KevinIN72> anyone have a good web accese app
[03:03] <NK`> hi anyone can told how we can do to fix a segfault in /usr/bin/prename when we can't reinstall perl because perl prename is using perl and dpkg is using prename ?
[03:03] <Sivik> KevinIN72, are you talking about like app
[03:03] <cvp> KevinIN72: ...firefox?
[03:03] <Aesop> KevinIN72, Web access app... Like Firefox?
[03:03] <KevinIN72> no
[03:03] <mcrandello_> Sivik: mv /foo/folder/* /foo/ && rm -rf /foo/folder/
[03:03] <slugicide> Can someone give me a link which shows me how to network a windows and ubuntu machine over wireless?
[03:04] <KevinIN72> so i can managed the server over the web
[03:04] <Sivik> ok
[03:04] <Aesop> KevinIN72, manage a Ubuntu server?
[03:04] <mcrandello_> maybe copy them somewhere first in case that nukes things
[03:04] <EnsignRedshirt> If anyone here is familiar with routing tables (especially when using a VPN pptp tunnel), take a look at this table and see if anything is obviously wrong: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16047
[03:04] <KevinIN72> yeah web manage
[03:04] <Aesop> KevinIN72, SSH is pretty good for that
[03:04] <cvp> I have a music library that is named in the format "Uknown Artist - [Actual Artist]  - [Song] ". Is there a quick CLA command I can use to chop off the "Uknown Artist - " portions instead of going through every song individually?
[03:04] <MTecknology> ic56, I know what fragmentation is, and I do like keeping everything in one place
[03:04] <KevinIN72> Aesop: SSH, can you help me a little
[03:04] <Aesop> cvp, you could probably write a shell script for that...
[03:05] <Flippy>  mean ??
[03:05] <Flippy> sorry
[03:05] <Aesop> KevinIN72, first you need to install the SSH server and open it up on your firewall
[03:05] <cvp> Aesop, what would it look like?
[03:05] <cvp> KevinIN72: sudo apt-get install ssh
[03:05] <thenetduck> hey when you install a program with apt-get install where does it sinstall the program to?
[03:05] <thenetduck> like it what file directory
[03:05] <dooglus> rigonatti: what is the URL of the .tar.gz you try to build?
[03:05] <cvp> KevinIN72: then reboot
[03:05] <KevinIN72> ok hold on
[03:05] <Twinxor> rigonatti, get kubuntu-desktop and lose ubuntu-desktop
[03:05] <Twinxor> thenetduck, use synaptic to browse installed packeages
[03:05] <Aesop> KevinIN72, that would be it =D Then, on another computer, simply use an SSH client to connect to the IP address
[03:05] <mcrandello_> actually rm -rf is definitely a little unsafe in that application, rmdir I think will complain if the dir is not empty first
[03:05] <Twinxor> they're installed to many places on the system
[03:05] <thenetduck> Twinxor i im working on a server
[03:06] <Aesop> cvp, I have no idea, but I'm working on it
[03:06] <ic56> MTecknology: how is mounting /dev/hda1 as your new /home or /var or something not "keeping everything in one place"?
[03:06] <KevinIN72> Aesop: ok thanks much if i have more problems ill holler
[03:06] <cvp> Aesop: it would involve tricksy use of wild characters, I'd imagine
[03:06] <vanberge> is it normal for Banshee to 'skip' on mp3's ??
[03:06] <MTecknology> ic56, because you freakin lost me
[03:06] <thenetduck> Twinxor well what file are they usally installed to ..im asking because i set up gnump3d and want to add pasword, but have to add .pasword files to the directories
[03:06] <Aesop> cvp, Why not just say 'If string = 'Unknown Artist" then replace with " <blank>"
[03:06] <cvp> vanberge: it is normal for any music-playing software that isn't xmms to suck
[03:07] <MTecknology> ic56, o, ok
[03:07] <EnsignRedshirt> cvp: Test this first, but something like:  rename 's/Unknown Artist //' *
[03:07] <Aesop> cvp, I think that it's a part of the ID3 tag, and then the [Actual Artist]  is on the filename
[03:07] <dooglus> cvp: beep-media-player sucks a little less than xmms
[03:07] <Twinxor> thenetduck, they're installed to a lot of places
[03:07] <dooglus> cvp: beep-media-player sucks a little less than xmms
[03:07] <Aesop> cvp, Meaning that EnsignRedshirt's idea probably won't work.
[03:07] <Twinxor> for instance, binaries may go anywhere on you $PATH
[03:08] <vanberge> cvp: i was attracted to banshee for its ipod capability
[03:08] <mcrandello_> mv foo/files/* foo/ && rmdir foo/files is  a safer bet
[03:08] <MTecknology> ic56, I would prefer not having to worry about how much space I am using on one partition - I will be putting multiple operating system images on this HD
[03:08] <Firebird8> how do u list the current processes by console?
[03:08] <mikebot> can anyone recommend a good wireless mouse and keyboard?
[03:08] <dooglus> Firebird8: ps
[03:08] <Aesop> mikebot, Logitech MX1000 mouse
[03:08] <cvp> Firebird8: ps
[03:08] <Warbo> Dammit, missed Flippy
[03:08] <ic56> MTecknology: the more important question is how you do backups.  What is your backup device and will the content of each of your filesystems fit in your backup media?
[03:08] <Aesop> mikebot, keyboard is a bit harder
[03:08] <cvp> mikebot: Logitech
[03:09] <mikebot> thanks for the mouse info
[03:09] <Aesop> Actually, don't use the MX1000, it's having problems with Dapper
[03:09] <mikebot> are there any good wireless keyboards?
[03:09] <mikebot> oh really?
[03:09] <Aesop> Logitech makes some good ones, but I've never used them
[03:09] <apokryphos> mikebot: logitech's nice, yes.
[03:09] <MTecknology> ic56, I do image backups across a network onto a different computer and document backups to CD's and flash media
[03:09] <Aesop> Yeah, it's a pain to configure the MX1000, I've only got about half my buttons working at the moment.
[03:09] <mikebot> how many buttons does it have?
[03:09] <Aesop> Ok, so. Dual-monitor setup, 1 monitor is displaying the correct resolution of 1280x1024, the second is supposed to be at that. Last week it stepped down to 1024/860- and for it's 860-620. Anyone got some ideas?
[03:09] <mikebot> i just need a wireless with a 2 buttons and wheel
[03:10] <Aesop> Mike- Linux recognizes it as 12, lemme gount...
[03:10] <mikebot> and i guess the mouse3 button
[03:10] <EnsignRedshirt> Aesop, cvp: I think I missed a bit of your conversation.  Was the gist that 'Unknown Artist ' is not actually part of the file name?
[03:10] <Aesop> 12 if you cant the wheel as two buttons
[03:10] <Aesop> EnsignRedshirt, cvp, That's what makes sense to me
[03:10] <cwillu> help!:  smb used to work (incl across reboots), but stopped this last time (and subsequently won't start working);  mount /mnt/office now complains about not being installed suid root, sudo /mnt/office seems to work, but the mount only shows a bunch of files named 'a', 'A', 'b', 'B', 'c', etc
[03:11] <Aesop> 12 if you COUNT* the wheel as two buttons
[03:11] <ic56> MTecknology: so, will the dump from enlarged filesystem that would occupy the space of both your existing hda1 and hda2 be too big to fit on 1 CD?
[03:11] <mcrandello_> Sooo has anyone tried the updated ati drivers?
[03:11] <cvp> EnsignRedshirt, Aesop: the filename included the "Unknown Artist", not the ID3 tags
[03:11] <MTecknology> ic56, dump???
[03:11] <mcrandello_> they don't want to compile :(
[03:11] <cwillu> cat /var/lob/dpkg doesn't show any activity relating to smb or samba since I installed it the first time a month ago or so
[03:11] <ic56> MTecknology: dump = backup
[03:11] <Zambezi> Is it possible to search on packages just beginning with rar?
[03:11] <Aesop> cvp, then EnsignRedshirt's method will work
[03:11] <MTecknology> ic56, very much so
[03:11] <mikebot> Aesop, well, is logitech the only place i should look for decent wireless input devices?
[03:11] <L-----D> Aesop: MX1000 with problem? I'm just thinking about replace my old MX700 with it
[03:12] <EnsignRedshirt> cvp: You can add the option -n to the rename command to test what would happen, without actually renaming anything.
[03:12] <cvp> Aesop: actually, yours did, with the rename 's//Unknown Artist //' *
[03:12] <xpc> !hu
[03:12] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[03:12] <Aesop> L-----D, mikebot, if I put enoguh time into getting it to work again, I probably could, but I can't get XEV to acknowledge the buttons
[03:12] <xpc> !hu
[03:12] <cvp> I didn't try EnsignRedshirt's
[03:12] <cvp> But I'll play around with it in case I need to do it in the future.
[03:12] <EnsignRedshirt> cvp: I think that was mine :)
[03:12] <ic56> MTecknology: then such a filesystem would be too big for you.  I take it you only have a single root filesystem now?  and it's physically on /dev/hda2?
[03:12] <Aesop> cvp, EnsignRedshirt, Glad to be of help, but I didn't offer any actual code... >.>
[03:12] <cvp> EnsignRedshirt: Oh, okay, then thanks!
[03:13] <xpc> !hu
[03:13] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[03:13] <MTecknology> ic56, yep
[03:13] <cvp> Anyway, yeah, thanks to you too, Aesop.
[03:13] <Zambezi> Is unrar-nonfree renamned?
[03:13] <Twinxor> !ja
[03:13] <MTecknology> ic56, starts in the middle of my HD
[03:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about ja
[03:13] <Twinxor> JAAAA
[03:13] <L-----D> Aesop: which buttons?
[03:13] <jrib> Zambezi: it's just unrar now I think
[03:13] <Twinxor> !ubuntu
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