[01:29] <JackYu>  good morning, desktop developers, please help to give more comments on our packaging request at bug #1213998, thanks in advance.
[01:29] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1213998 in UbuntuKylin "[needs-packaging] youker-assistant" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1213998
[04:48] <pitti> Good morning
[04:49] <pitti> darkxst: you mean to the initial "if" check?
[04:52] <darkxst> pitti, hi, I meant to add a tag like what is done for gnome3-staging
[04:53] <pitti> darkxst: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6027460/ ?
[04:57] <darkxst> pitti, yeh thats good. thanks
[04:57] <pitti> ack, pushed
[05:06] <Mirv> pitti: morning. two packaging 'ack's would be needed, platform-api http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6027478/ + unity-scope-hoem http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6027481/
[05:07] <Mirv> both seem ok to me
[05:07] <pitti> Mirv: first LGTM; second, the first hunk of control is in Conflicts:, right?
[05:08] <pitti> Mirv: ah, yes; so, +1 on both
[05:08] <Mirv> pitti: yes. thanks!
[05:22] <Mirv> bah, I can't publish unity stack anyhow since I don't know if anyone preNEWed unity-scope-mediascanner of if it was added to daily stack prematurely
[05:23] <Mirv> no discussion here at least regarding it
[05:57] <darkxst> xnox, ping
[06:53] <attente> darkxst, do you know if g-s-d 3.8 changes the way the input sources keyboard shortcut works?
[06:53] <darkxst> attente, yes slightly
[06:54] <darkxst> it moves the keys, and they are now array string
[06:54] <darkxst> gsettings keys
[06:54] <darkxst> I patched g-c-c on ppa:darkxst/gsd38 to fix that
[06:55] <darkxst> might need to be patched in indicator-keyboard as well though
[06:55] <attente> i-keyboard shouldn't be affected, but after updating to your ppa, i wasn't able to get the switching working again
[06:57] <attente> unless g-s-d also changes where the current input source is stored
[06:57] <darkxst> attente, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/148298120/gnome-control-center_1%3A3.6.3-0ubuntu32~saucy2_1%3A3.6.3-0ubuntu32~saucy3.diff.gz
[06:59] <darkxst> attente, they are now in org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings
[06:59] <darkxst> and 'as' instead of 's'
[07:01] <attente> but your g-c-c is still using the old media-keys plugin schema?
[07:04] <darkxst> #define MEDIA_KEYS_SCHEMA_ID  "org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings"
[07:04] <attente> oh. sorry, i guess i didn't see that in the diff
[07:15] <bkerensa> jasoncwarner__: Are there any specific features for desktop that might be interesting to highlight on Doc's What's New?
[07:15] <bkerensa> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-docs/saucy/view/head:/ubuntu-help/C/whats-new.page
[08:18] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:23] <Mirv> seb128: morning. do you happen to remember if sil2100's lp:unity-scope-mediascanner was preNEWed? I didn't publish unity stack since it was added there but I didn't find in the backlog any proof that it would have been preNEWed.
[08:24] <seb128> Mirv, hey, no idea if it was, check with sil2100 when he's around I guess
[08:24] <Mirv> seb128: ok. I will, I'm just not sure if he's still sick or cured.
[08:26] <seb128> Mirv, I guess you can publish anyway, if it's not in the whitelist it's just not going to be uploaded?
[08:27] <Mirv> seb128: I don't think it's that easy, since the whitelist = bzr pull done with the daily config, and it was pulled last week for the other packages. the problem here is adding packages to cu2d before it has been preNEWed, but that has now happened a couple of times since we don't have the process 100% polished yet
[08:28] <Mirv> and since it has happened before, I can't be sure it didn't happen this time
[08:28] <seb128> drop it from the config until you can check?
[08:28] <Mirv> seb128: ok, I'll do if sil2100 doesn't show up in 1.5h
[08:28] <seb128> ok
[08:29] <seb128> Mirv, I saw that you tried the appmenu qpa bug, is there any work currently happening on that?
[08:30] <Mirv> seb128: I just set the priority "High" for the other target package as well. sil2100 was working on that on Thursday I think, but I didn't hear how it progressed.
[08:30] <seb128> ok
[08:30] <Mirv> meanwhile I think I have the 5.1.1 CMake issue cured, at least so far it seems that way. one less blocker.
[08:34] <seb128> when do you plan tog et qt 5.1 uploaded?
[08:35] <Mirv> seb128: I think that's what tomorrow's UDS session is for. so far I think these are blockers so cannot upload before they are fixed, unless our 'no regressions policy' is laxed a bit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.tag=qt5.1
[08:35] <seb128> ok, that makes sense
[08:38] <desrt> hello paris!
[08:39] <desrt> the land where it takes an hour to get out of the airport
[08:39] <desrt> the land where the people running the trains randomly section off areas of the station for no apparent reason and yell at people in french to go there and, no, go here instead
[08:40] <desrt> the land where people cut in front of you and go on the train when you were politely waiting for people to finish getting _off_ the train
[08:40] <desrt> the land where the ISPs have pre-chosen passwords for their wifi boxes that are comprised entirely of characters [0-9][A-F], but are not hexidecimal
[08:41] <seb128> lol
[08:41] <desrt> the land that i love....... to hate
[08:41] <seb128> desrt, good morning Canadians lost in France
[08:41] <desrt> hi :)
[08:41] <attente> desrt, try china...
[08:41] <seb128> hey attente
[08:41] <attente> hi seb128 :)
[08:42] <desrt> the entire time i was in germany i wasn't missing toronto at all.  2 hours of paris was enough to make me want to go home again :p
[08:42] <desrt> attente: they have weird wifi passwords in china as well? :)
[08:42] <seb128> lol
[08:42] <seb128> desrt, and you stay there for 10 days?
[08:42] <desrt> seb128: ya.  maybe a side trip to england... we're still considering
[08:42] <desrt> CDG is a weird place
[08:43] <desrt> i always am aware of the fact that it is the worst-run airport in existence
[08:43] <desrt> but each time i go through it i remember _just_ _how_ _bad_ it is
[08:43] <desrt> so maybe i'll avoid any extra flying for the duration of this trip :)
[08:43] <seb128> lol
[08:43]  * seb128 things desrt actually enjoy being in France
[08:43] <desrt> we landed at 2G this time....
[08:44] <seb128> gives him a reason to complain :p
[08:44] <desrt> you know the whole terminal 2E/2F badness in CDG, i'm sure.... everyone does
[08:44] <desrt> 2G is a whole new level of hilariousness
[08:44] <desrt> it is a building in the middle of nowhere that is connected to 2F, by bus, and nothing else
[08:47] <desrt> seb128: in any case, i may be up for TGV trips.... 10 days is already starting to seem like quite a lot
[08:47]  * desrt <3 TGV
[08:47] <seb128> desrt, if you want to go the u.k you can also do the eurostar, but that's less nice than a tgv
[08:47] <desrt> ya... we've been checking eurostar prices.... $500 :/
[08:48] <seb128> urg
[08:49] <desrt> perhaps we will find some nice esperantists here :)
[08:49]  * desrt goes to have some coffee for now
[08:50] <seb128> desrt, enjoy!
[08:59] <seb128> Mirv, dialer-app/i386 unsatisfiable Depends: qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-history-plugin
[08:59] <seb128> Mirv, is that a known issue?
[09:01] <Mirv> seb128: I'm not familiar with the dialer-app, but at least the history-service is not yet packaged
[09:02] <seb128> how come we landed stuff depending on it to the archive then?
[09:02] <seb128> I guess that's a sil2100 question?
[09:02] <Mirv> seb128: it shouldn't have been, but yes
[09:03] <Mirv> history-service is coming hopefully soon
[09:16] <seb128> Mirv, do you know why we got a new mir uploaded but not a new unity-system-compositor? is the compositor part of the unity stack?
[09:16] <seb128> Mirv, that's block mir to move to release...
[09:16] <seb128> Mirv, is sil2100 supposed to be there today?
[09:20] <Mirv> seb128: unity-system-compositor is in mirslave stack, it should probably be forcefully rebuilt
[09:20] <Mirv> on the stack status page it says also "Mir will be blocked in -proposed until RAOF uploads the new, rebuilt xorg-server to -proposed", but I'm not sure if that's then obsolete information
[09:21] <Mirv> seb128: yes, he should be
[09:21] <RAOF> Mirv: I uploaded *some* rebuilt xorg-server to -proposed
[09:21] <Mirv> RAOF: ok
[09:22] <seb128> RAOF, hey, so that info is not current anymore?
[09:22] <Mirv> I don't know the history of that, so I don't know if that's then enough or not
[09:22] <RAOF> I think that info is indeed not current.
[09:22] <seb128> Mirv, we need a force rebuilt from mirslave then I guess
[09:22] <sil2100> Morning!
[09:22] <seb128> I though didrocks made it so things would rebuild after every mir upload?
[09:22] <seb128> oh, sil2100 *is* working today
[09:22] <seb128> sil2100, hey, we were wondering if you had the day off
[09:23] <sil2100> My alarm clock was off ;/
[09:23] <Mirv> sil2100: haha, hello hello!
[09:23] <sil2100> I just jumped out of my bed, not sure why it was off but I was like really really shocked
[09:24] <seb128> waking up at 11am, not remembering what happened with the alarm clock during the W.E
[09:24] <seb128> sil2100, stop drinking that much on weekends! ;-)
[09:24] <sil2100> It's nooot like thaaat!
[09:24] <Mirv> sil2100: you can answer when you have time, but was unity-scope-mediascanner preNEWed? I now temporarily removed it from daily release since I didn't dare to publish unity with included.
[09:25] <sil2100> Mirv: from what I know I think Didier pre-NEWed it already
[09:27] <Mirv> sil2100: I searched the backlogs but I didn't find any chat of that, so I was unsure
[09:27] <Mirv> sil2100: so if you think it can go into NEW queue, please deploy the current trunk unity.cfg again (I only deployed a local non-merged branch) to have it back
[09:28] <sil2100> Let me try to refresh my mind again
[09:30] <sil2100> Mirv: I'm pretty sure Didier ACKed the preNEWing review, but not sure if the whitelist got updated
[09:30] <sil2100> seb128: do you know how to update the whitelists as Didier is doing always?
[09:31] <seb128> sil2100, yes, let me do that
[09:31] <sil2100> seb128: thank you
[09:32] <seb128> sil2100, the steps are in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/FAQ#Adding.2BAC8-removing_components_to_a_stack (in case you need to ping another archive admin about that some day)
[09:34] <seb128> sil2100, done
[09:34] <sil2100> seb128: thanks!
[09:35] <sil2100> Mirv: redeploying unity, the next tick should release unity-scope-mediascanner then
[09:35] <seb128> sil2100, Mirv: can any of you trigger the mirslave forced rebuild?
[09:35] <sil2100> seb128: I also see that mmsd is in the NEW queue, are you free enough to look at it or could you maybe quickly point me to someone I could poke about this
[09:36] <seb128> sil2100, let me have a look
[09:36] <sil2100> seb128: force rebuild? You mean, like now?
[09:36] <sil2100> Since if we force rebuild it, we'll miss the next tick probably right now
[09:36] <seb128> sil2100, btw you landed messaging-app and phone-app but they are broken because then depends on history-service which is not in daily landing
[09:36] <sil2100> As it will start in 24 minutes
[09:36] <sil2100> seb128: so they're stuck in -proposed right now?
[09:37] <sil2100> Mirv: how's work on history-service?
[09:37] <seb128> sil2100, that works, mir is stucked in proposed since friday since unity-system-compositor doesn't get rebuild
[09:37] <seb128> sil2100, we need u-s-c built with the current mir at some point, I wonder if the stacks are in the wrong order
[09:37] <seb128> sil2100, how come we have a .26 for mir but not for mirslave?
[09:38] <sil2100> hmm, ok, then something is broken clearly, as mirslave should rebuild every time mir has a commit :o Let me take a look, but this is STRANGE
[09:38] <sil2100> Mirv: if you're busy, I can try to prepare history-service for daily
[09:38] <Mirv> sil2100: ok then
[09:39] <sil2100> But first I check the mirslave issue
[09:39] <Mirv> I already launched unity-system-compositor rebuild
[09:39] <Mirv> it should be ready before the next tick
[09:40] <sil2100> Mirv: any clue why it doesn't do that automatically?
[09:42] <Mirv> sil2100: there was some LP hitch with mir so I relaunched it with foo - it may be that then mirslave didn't get another relaunch after that, simply
[09:42] <sil2100> Mirv: but the process is set this way that it should automatically re-build everything whenever there's a change in mir
[09:43] <sil2100> With the force-rebuild stanza
[09:44] <Mirv> sil2100: I've had some weird experiences with force-rebuild lately, maybe it's connected
[09:44] <Mirv> sil2100: like, nothing seems to happen at times or on some stacks
[09:44] <Mirv> I mean, it launches but goes by without actually building
[09:46] <sil2100> huh
[09:57] <Mirv> seb128: can you approve sil2100's session https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1308-daily-release-process ?
[09:57] <seb128> Mirv, done
[09:57] <Mirv> thanks!
[09:58] <seb128> sil2100, you got pings on several channels, you might want to check your IRC client
[09:58] <seb128> sil2100, some are pinging again due to the lack of pong ;-)
[10:01] <sil2100> seb128: thanks for the info! ;)
[10:01] <seb128> sil2100, yw
[10:01] <seb128> sil2100, so, about messaging-app and phone-app ... how could we land stuff where their depends are missing? don't we have checks for that?
[10:02] <Mirv> seb128: if you can ack http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/MirSlave/job/cu2d-mirslave-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_unity-system-compositor_0.0.1+13.10.20130826-0ubuntu1.diff I can publish the unity-system-compositor rebuild
[10:03] <seb128> Mirv, +1
[10:04] <Mirv> hmm, the tick just started, but I'll keep that +1 on mind until it's calm again
[10:04] <sil2100> Mirv: I think you can publish it now anyway
[10:05] <Mirv> sil2100: even though waitonstacks is running?
[10:05] <sil2100> Mirv: since Didier made it so you can publish 'older, ready' packages till the moment the publishing job goes on again
[10:05] <sil2100> Mirv: that was my understanding, yes
[10:05] <Mirv> let's try
[10:06] <sil2100> seb128: I think this is a problem here...
[10:08] <sil2100> seb128: sorry for that, normally it's checked during integration tests which are required, but due to FF we 'passed' some packages without integration tests yet (but will have soon) - if a dep is not a build-dep, it will only fail when it's installed during integration testing
[10:09] <sil2100> seb128: on Friday I thought that history-service was prepared, as Didier set to finish it by EOW
[10:09] <seb128> sil2100, I see ... no worry, well let's fix that then
[10:09] <sil2100> seb128: I quickly do that today so that we unbreak those ;/
[10:09] <seb128> sil2100, thanks
[10:10] <Mirv> and nope, I didn't finish that history-service yet as mentioned on the task list. I've started on it today in-between other tasks
[10:10] <Mirv> telephony-service would be fine from my part but needs approval, maybe sil2100 can do that? https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/telephony-service/packaging_fixes/+merge/181800
[10:13] <sil2100> Mirv: will review :)
[10:14] <sil2100> Mirv: I'll take over history-service from you so that you can concentrate on other pending tasks!
[10:14] <Mirv> sil2100: thanks!
[10:14] <Mirv> sil2100: no need regarding history-service, I've already several commits, I'll just give you the MP when it's ready
[10:14] <Mirv> sil2100: if anything, please try to have time for the QPA thing instead :)
[10:15] <sil2100> Mirv: excellent then! So I'll review the T-S merge
[10:15] <seb128> Mirv, do we need to keep the -dbg in there (since we have the dbgsym)? otherwise looks fine to me
[10:17] <Mirv> seb128: maybe it's not needed after it gets to archives, and I should remove it from history-service too
[10:17] <Mirv> sil2100: did any of your packages have -dbg left?
[10:17] <sil2100> Mirv: I usually remove the -dbg packages
[10:18] <sil2100> Mirv: along with the stanza in debian/rules - I only leave what's needed to build with debugging symbols
[10:19] <Mirv> sil2100: I wonder if leaving -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug is still ok after removing the manual dh_strip -> package then?
[10:19] <sil2100> Mirv: yes
[10:27] <sil2100> Mirv: so, remove the -dbg and the dh_strip stanza
[10:27] <Mirv> sil2100: yes, pushed already
[10:28] <sil2100> Mirv: commented, could you also update the copyright file to copyright the asset files? CC-BY-SA-3.0
[10:29] <Mirv> sil2100: thanks. can you try building it? it built fine on Friday, now the tests are failing for me.
[10:31] <pitti> desrt: hey Ryan, how are you?
[10:31] <pitti> desrt: I stumbled over my "review Ryan's menu traversing demo, investigate whether it makes sense to generalize and integrate into/provide by autopilot-gtk" WI
[10:32] <pitti> desrt: do you have a pointer to that demo?
[10:34] <Mirv> sil2100: CC-BY-SA changes pushed
[10:36] <sil2100> Mirv: approved! Thanks :)
[10:38] <sil2100> seb128: sorry for poking you that much, but besides looking at mmsd in the NEW queue, could you also do a preNEW review of https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/content-hub/trunk packaging?
[10:39] <sil2100> On Friday I made a packaging review and I was thinking of maybe ultimately starting daily-releasing that
[10:39] <sil2100> brb
[10:39] <seb128> sil2100, can do
[10:43] <Mirv> (ok telephony-services tests pass fine pbuilder)
[10:46] <sil2100> hmmm
[10:46] <seb128> sil2100, mmsd NEWed
[10:47] <seb128> sil2100, oh, content-hub ... I already preNEWed that last week, I asked for the qml bindings package to be renamed
[10:48] <sil2100> seb128: ah, I remember! Right, so it's ok now with all the changes I made I think
[10:48] <seb128> sil2100, yeah, just had anothing quick look, it's fine
[10:48] <sil2100> seb128: thanks for everything ;) COuld you update the whitelist as the last thing related to this stuff?
[10:48] <seb128> sil2100, did you commit? (e.g do I only need to pull?)
[11:23] <Mirv> seb128: bzr branch lp:~timo-jyrinki/history-service/packagin_fixes (non-typo:)  <- preNEW?
[11:24] <sil2100> seb128: qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-content0.1 is not enough?
[11:24] <seb128> sil2100, enough what?
[11:24] <Mirv> merge request at https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/history-service/packagin_fixes/+merge/182081
[11:25] <sil2100> seb128: about the QML bindings package renaming - I remember you mentioned that during the review and I changed the naming to qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-content0.1
[11:25] <sil2100> And that got merged
[11:26] <seb128> sil2100, right, what's the issue?
[11:26] <sil2100> seb128: since you said 'did you commit' ;)
[11:26] <sil2100> seb128: so I have been wondering if I need to modify something else
[11:26] <seb128> sil2100, that was about " COuld you update the whitelist"
[11:26] <sil2100> Aaaaaa
[11:27] <sil2100> AAAA
[11:27] <seb128> sil2100, I can pull on the server side, but please commit the change
[11:28] <seb128> Mirv, sil2100: so  history-service gives us qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-history-plugin  ... what gives us qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-telephony-plugin  (that's also missing as a dialer-app depends)
[11:30] <seb128> Mirv, ok, small comment but it looks fine otherwise
[11:30] <seb128> Mirv, you removed the "# If you don't have commit rights to lp:history-service but need to upload..." text, not sure why?
[11:31] <Mirv> seb128: the telephony-service you already looked at an hour ago
[11:31] <seb128> ok, great
[11:31] <Mirv> seb128: although they are now both "0.1", not -plugin
[11:31] <Mirv> seb128: ah, sorry, it's wrap-and-sort bug to remove it, I'll put the normal stanza back
[11:31] <seb128> that's fine, we just need to update dialer-app's depends
[11:31] <seb128> Mirv, thanks, then you can approve
[11:32] <Mirv> seb128: ok, thanks
[11:34] <dupondje> I got a strange issue, totally no idea's on how to debug it. When i'm playing music with Audacious, and then I open firefox and put my cursor for example in the search field, it keeps blinking.
[11:35] <dupondje> If I stop audacious playback, it stops also
[11:36] <dupondje> prolly because audacious triggers alot of window updates?
[11:43] <sil2100> seb128, Mirv: sorry for the delay guys - https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/cupstream2distro-config/content-hub_enable/+merge/182083
[11:53] <Mirv> sil2100: approved. I've also https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/cupstream2distro-config/services_add_telephony_history/+merge/182069
[11:53] <Mirv> for you
[11:53] <Mirv> but it will need syncing with yours
[11:54] <sil2100> Mirv: re-enable unity-scope-mediascanner please ;)
[11:55] <Mirv> sil2100: or do you think those two should stay in phone stack instead of the new services stack?
[11:55] <Mirv> even though they are called -srevice :)
[11:55] <Mirv> sil2100: oh ooops :)
[11:55] <Mirv> same branch
[12:01] <sil2100> Mirv: will approve once history-service is reviewed ;)
[12:01] <Mirv> sil2100: it was
[12:01] <sil2100> Ah
[12:01] <sil2100> https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/history-service/packagin_fixes/+merge/182081
[12:01] <sil2100> Didn't see an Approve there
[12:02] <sil2100> Let me browse through the changes and give a +1
[12:02] <sil2100> Mirv: I would propose some small modifications there still ;p But those are mostly nit-picks
[12:02] <Mirv> LP is really slow late last week and now
[12:03] <sil2100> Mirv: can I point out some small issues? You have a moment for fixing?
[12:03] <Mirv> not only diff generation takes time, now even commit list updating takes time at times. I think that jenkins failure was from there.
[12:03] <Mirv> sil2100: those are quick ones anyway, just shoot
[12:07] <sil2100> Mirv: commented
[12:08] <sil2100> Mirv: thanks!
[12:12] <sil2100> Mirv: can you attend http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21952/client-1308-daily-release-process/ ?
[12:16] <Mirv> sil2100: I can, as luckily it's the first one of the day so "only" 6pm
[12:16] <sil2100> ;)
[12:16] <seb128> sil2100, Mirv: be careful, the time/slots are not fixed yet
[12:16] <sil2100> Mirv: I scheduled it for now so that it's closer to the beginning, like the Qt5 one
[12:16] <sil2100> But yea, as seb128 said
[12:16] <seb128> sil2100, you have scheduling access?
[12:17] <sil2100> seb128: yes
[12:17] <seb128> sil2100, do you host client1?
[12:18] <sil2100> seb128: not sure, but I could
[12:18] <seb128> sil2100, Mirv: currently the qt 5.1 one is on the next slot, Mirv should probably attend that one as well
[12:18] <sil2100> I see almost all the client meetings are clien1
[12:19] <seb128> sil2100, right, we should load balance between client1/2
[12:19] <sil2100> seb128: who takes care of client2? And how does it look like, for instance Mirv will be able to host his Qt session or will I have to start it?
[12:20] <seb128> sil2100, I'm going to host one of the client track, so I guess 2 if you have 1
[12:20] <seb128> sil2100, the "host" just needs to start the hangout, no need to lead the session
[12:20] <seb128> sil2100, e.g you can just turn off mic and video while hosting if you don't participate
[12:21] <seb128> but you need to keep it running and stop the recording at this end (it's a bit annoying to "block" on that, but that's the way it is :/)
[12:21] <seb128> Mirv, I guess you would prefer having the qt5.1 early on wednesday?
[12:23] <Mirv> seb128: I don't mind which day it is as long as it's early. I guess we're already about quite sure we won't hit FF with qt5.1 (unless given the right to regress) so I guess it wouldn't hurt.
[12:24] <Mirv> sil2100: unity-scope-mediascanner FTBFS btw
[12:26] <seb128> Mirv, sil2100: qt5.1 on wednesday at 2pm utc
[12:26] <seb128> sil2100, I tried to balance the sessions between the 2 tracks, let me know how that works for you
[12:26] <Mirv> ok
[12:27] <sil2100> seb128: thanks! Looking
[12:28] <seb128> sil2100, I let thursday mir sessions in your track, I don't think we can host 2 mir sessions in //, same people required in both, i'm going to put the next topic in client 2 to balance
[12:30] <seb128> tkamppeter__, do you have anything specific to discuss on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1305-convertibles-and-touch-desktop at vUDS, I saw that you proposed for discussion again (we already had a session at previous vUDS I think) ... who is going to come to the session?
[12:33] <sil2100> Ok
[12:34] <sil2100> jasoncwarner__: hi! Guess you're not around right now, but do we have a session about the reverse dependencies of Mir and their maintainance?
[12:36] <sil2100> I think I'll wait for Mike Terry regarding planning that
[12:49] <sil2100> Mirv: looking into the FTBFS for services stack - it seems there's some problem with platform dependencies
[13:00] <tkamppeter__> seb128, I think we can remove the proposal, what has to be done is simply fixing all linked bugs.
[13:00] <seb128> tkamppeter__, ok, good, doing that then, thanks!
[13:15] <sil2100> Mirv: hm, I think maybe platform-api will need to be rebuilt
[13:15] <sil2100> Mirv: since right now we have a conflict
[13:15] <sil2100> Mirv: you can see by adding ppa:ubuntu-unity/daily-build for a moment, update and then try installing libubuntu-application-api-mirserver1
[13:17] <sil2100> Maybe the builds happened in some strange moments, hmm
[13:18] <sil2100> Yeah... geh
[13:18] <sil2100> seb128: I think we might have to drop the latest platform-api from -proposed
[13:18] <seb128> sil2100, why?
[13:18] <sil2100> seb128: it's depending on a version of libmirserver1 that's not in the archive
[13:18] <sil2100> seb128: libmirserver1 (= 0.0.9+13.10.20130825.1-0ubuntu1)
[13:19] <sil2100> seb128: while the archive has only 0.0.9+13.10.20130822-0ubuntu1  and 0.0.10+13.10.20130826-0ubuntu1 (in -proposed)
[13:19] <seb128> sil2100, that's why we needed a rebuild
[13:19] <sil2100> seb128: but we also need a rebuild of platform-api then
[13:19] <seb128> right
[13:19] <seb128> everything that depends libmir*
[13:20] <sil2100> Ok, now I get it, since I didn't know what was the reason why mirslave needed a rebuild - it's all the consequence of some probable bug in cu2d, which doesn't force rebuild
[13:20] <sil2100> Rebuilding then
[13:21] <seb128> sil2100, thanks
[13:22] <seb128> sil2100, sorry we discussed the issue this morning before you joined
[13:22] <sil2100> seb128: no problem, it was my fault for over-sleeping!
[13:22] <sil2100> ;)
[13:25] <sil2100> mterry: hi!
[13:28] <sil2100> mterry: I think we might need a session on UDS to consult the maintainance of Mir rdepends
[13:31] <sil2100> seb128: could you approve https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-s-1308-mir-qa-and-benchmarking ?
[13:31] <seb128> sil2100, it's already approved (you can see the uds-13.08 green checkmark)
[13:32] <sil2100> seb128: ah, so it doesn't have to have the status changed to 'Approved'?
[13:32] <seb128> sil2100, not to show on the UDS schedule (I think)
[13:33] <seb128> sil2100, set as approved
[13:33] <sil2100> Awesome, good to know
[13:34] <mterry> sil2100, in that session or a new one?
[13:35] <sil2100> mterry: I'm wondering, since we already have 3-4 Mir sessions planned
[13:38] <sil2100> tvoss: hi! Do you have a specific meeting schedule for the "Mir roadmap" meeting
[13:39] <mterry> sil2100, is issue of rdepends enough for a whole session?  What are the issues from a QA point of view?
[13:41] <sil2100> mterry: I don't know, I guess it's not that much so I'm looking for other sessions I could drop this into
[13:41] <sil2100> mterry: for instance "Mir roadmap" seems ok
[13:42] <sil2100> mterry: since this has to be discussed, as we have a lot of rdepends and if we want to have Mir 'in' we need those maintained
[13:44] <mterry> sil2100, ah I see, we want the team to either support or drop their depends
[13:44] <mterry> sil2100, and get them in a room until they do
[13:44] <mterry> sil2100, mir roadmap seems good yeah
[14:06] <sil2100> mterry: I guess I'll try proposing that to Thomas as soon as he pops up
[14:11] <sil2100> seb128: for getting the fixed platform-api we have to wait when this tick finishes... the last manual run failed on the check job, and there was not enough time to restart it or even push further
[14:20] <sil2100> tvoss__ / tvoss: hi
[14:22] <seb128> sil2100, ok
[14:28] <xnox> darkxst: heya.
[14:35] <sil2100> seb128: just in case, history-service and telephony are pre-NEWed?
[14:35] <sil2100> Mirv: argh, you didn't top-approve the content-hub re-enabling ;/
[14:36] <sil2100> seb128: the content-hub re-addition to daily-release didn't yet get merged, but did you update the whitelist for the two I mentioned?
[14:40] <seb128> sil2100, history/telephony ... too many reviews, I reviewed some of those for Mirv, let me check which ones
[14:40] <seb128> sil2100, +1 for history
[14:40] <sil2100> seb128: I guess yes, I think you reviewed those - jsut the whitelist then :)
[14:41] <sil2100> And content-hub, once that guy gets merged...
[14:41] <seb128> I reviewed content-hub
[14:41] <sil2100> Yes, but the whitelist I mean :)
[14:44] <seb128> sil2100, I pulled on the server side
[14:50] <seb128> shrug
[14:50] <seb128> jbicha, please don't start uploading GNOME 3.90 components without talking with us here before
[14:52] <desrt> pitti: oh this.  i had almost forgotten.
[14:52] <desrt> pitti: didn't i send you some small .c file a long time ago?
[14:53] <pitti> desrt: not that I can remember
[14:53] <seb128> desrt, is your api to get the size of a folder still going to be in for this cycle?
[14:53] <pitti> desrt: well, I probably won't use the actual code anyway if we want to do that with autopilot, I was just interested in what you do/test there
[14:53] <desrt> seb128: yes.  i will land it when i return.
[14:54] <desrt> seb128: i suppose i could land it now if you need it for something
[14:54] <desrt> pitti: my approach was as follows: run an app in a clean environment (no gsettings stuff, etc)
[14:54] <seb128> desrt, it's just that freezes are coming soon and I'm not sure how you handle that for glib
[14:54] <desrt> then find the GtkMenuBar in the toplevel window
[14:54] <desrt> then start iterating through the items.  skip 'n' items, and activate the next one
[14:55] <desrt> run this the first time with n=0, then repeat until there are no items remaining
[14:55] <pitti> desrt: why "skip n"?
[14:55] <pitti> ah
[14:55] <desrt> each time starting new, from a clean environment
[14:55] <pitti> desrt: what do yo do with them, signal an activate and see that it doesn't crash? or something more elaborate?
[14:55] <desrt> my reason for doing it was a bit different, though: for each item i watched for a few seconds if any windows opened as a side effect and then captured text from all of the GtkLabel in the window
[14:56] <desrt> the idea here was to give some extra search terms for the hud
[14:56] <desrt> so if i search for "word wrap" and this is in preferences, for example, then the "preferences" menu item would match
[14:56] <desrt> webcrawler style, essentially
[15:01] <pitti> desrt: ah, ok; the iteration is straightforward with ap, I just wondered what to actually test
[15:03] <desrt> pitti: i only activated the menu items
[15:03] <desrt> there are two things here that i seem to think we were discussing
[15:04] <desrt> the first is that simply activating each menu item and ensuring the result is not a crash is probably a good way of finding some extremely embarassing data-loss bugs here and there
[15:04] <desrt> i've seen situations like this before...
[15:04] <pitti> *nod*, that would be an obvious one
[15:04] <desrt> the second is that having the CI framework that you've setup would be a good framework to use for getting these strings for the HUD
[15:05] <desrt> because otherwise we have to do it at package build time or something, which would just be exceedingly strange
[15:05] <desrt> for the second part, though.... i am no longer involved in the hud in any way
[15:05] <desrt> and i don't know if anyone would still be interested in having this information
[15:25] <jasoncwarner__> sil2100, I don't know. Yeah, check with mterry and get something scheduled if we don't.
[16:05] <sil2100> jasoncwarner__: I had a chat with tvoss__ just now, and we'll try making it part of the Mir roadmap session
[16:05] <sil2100> jasoncwarner__: will have a chat with Olli tomorrow
[16:07] <sil2100> seb128: can I ask for a packaging ACK for services? The changes look sane, although a bit hacky - but I guess that's one way of doing it correctly: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/cu2d-services-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_ubuntu-keyboard_0.99.trunk.phablet2+13.10.20130826.4-0ubuntu1.diff
[16:09] <seb128> sil2100, you are sure that "python:any" is valid? we had to revert similar changes from doko before because they were buggy afaik
[16:09] <sil2100> cyphermox: kenvandine: I'll handle this release tick if you don't mind
[16:09] <seb128> sil2100, e.g https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/5.0.2+dfsg1-7ubuntu5
[16:10] <seb128> sil2100, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/147050152/qtbase-opensource-src_5.0.2%2Bdfsg1-7ubuntu4_5.0.2%2Bdfsg1-7ubuntu5.diff.gz
[16:10] <sil2100> hm, didn't know it caused problems in the past
[16:10] <kenvandine> sil2100,  please do... i have no time :/
[16:11] <sil2100> ;)
[16:11] <sil2100> seb128: ok, if Didier reverted it I guess it's a valid concern ;p
[16:13] <sil2100> seb128: I'll revert it and re-run the stack if we get it in
[16:13] <seb128> sil2100, thanks
[16:15] <sil2100> seb128, greyback, veebers: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/ubuntu-keyboard/python_any_revert/+merge/182151
[16:26] <sil2100> cyphermox, kenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/cupstream2distro-config/new_dependency_chain_extra/+merge/182153 <- ?
[16:28] <sil2100> seb128: hm, I also think the nvidia machine might be broken
[16:28] <seb128> :-(
[16:28] <sil2100> At least the container ;/
[16:30] <sil2100> cyphermox, kenvandine: could you guys wait a moment?
[16:31] <cyphermox> ok
[16:31] <cyphermox> looks fine anyway
[16:31] <sil2100> I'll add some additional extra deps...
[16:31] <sil2100> ;/
[16:31] <sil2100> cyphermox: thanks!
[16:32] <cyphermox> nvidia machine broken> should I look into it or did you talk to QA to get it sorted?
[16:35] <sil2100> cyphermox: ok, pushed the modified thing, could you review and approve? I'll redeploy then
[16:35] <sil2100> cyphermox: could you take a look at that? Just don't re-run any stacks for now, since I want to do some redeployments
[16:36] <cyphermox> ok
[16:38] <cyphermox> what makes you say it's broken?
[16:39] <cyphermox> sil2100: autopilot-nvidia seems able to run jobs just fine
[16:39] <sil2100> cyphermox: I noticed that two stacks failed due to this: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot-saucy-daily_release/1282/label=qa-nvidia-gtx660/console
[16:40] <cyphermox> that's something different
[16:40] <cyphermox> this needs QA help...
[16:42] <sil2100> cyphermox: do the changes to cu2d look ok?
[16:48] <sil2100> cyphermox: I'll self-approve for now not to loose time, since the next tick is nearing
[16:50] <cyphermox> sil2100: approved
[16:50] <cyphermox> just deploy the changes, the merge will carry on when jenkins picks things up
[17:03] <sil2100> cyphermox: did you contact QA?
[17:03] <sil2100> Since nvidia breaks all releases right now :|
[17:03] <sil2100> jibel: are you around?
[17:09] <cyphermox> sil2100: this shouldn't be specific to nvidia though, the headers are the same for everyone
[17:09] <sil2100> cyphermox: strange thing, that's why I guessed the container got f**ked up, since it's only happening on nvidia now
[17:09] <sil2100> And every run has this problem now
[17:10] <sil2100> I might try rebooting the machine, but if it's a problem with the container it won't really help
[17:10] <cyphermox> nah, it's not worth it
[17:10] <cyphermox> it's the container itself
[17:12] <sil2100> I wonder how we can fix this, since I can't even rerun any stack right now :o
[17:12] <sil2100> And why it happened
[17:23] <sil2100> Ok, I won't be able to do anything with that
[17:23] <sil2100> cyphermox: can you follow up on everything?
[17:36] <jibel> cyphermox, it happens on nvidia because headers are installed to install the proprietary driver, -proposed is enabled and latest kernel headers are not yet available on the mirror
[17:36] <jibel> cyphermox, you can either disable -proposed or wait
[17:37] <cyphermox> jibel: aye
[17:37] <cyphermox> how can I disable -proposed on the daily build stuff?
[17:44] <jibel> cyphermox, in lp:otto/autopilot/ comment only line in packages/saucy/proposed.repo
[17:44] <jibel> cyphermox, commit and push
[17:45] <jibel> cyphermox, do you really want to disable -proposed, it might make things untestable if there is a transition ongoing
[17:45] <jibel> ?
[17:47] <cyphermox> jibel: I don't know, things can wait I guess, but I wish the mirror used was in better sync
[17:49] <cyphermox> jibel: what mirror is that, btw?
[17:49] <jibel> cyphermox, archive.u.c
[17:50] <cyphermox> hmm
[17:51] <jibel> cyphermox, I disabled proposed temporarily, we'll see if it helps
[17:51] <cyphermox> mmkay
[17:53] <cyphermox> jibel: gah, the i386 package probably just got published now
[17:54] <cyphermox> jibel: can you quickly revert?
[17:54] <jibel> cyphermox, done
[17:55] <cyphermox> jibel: I rather wait for stuff to get done by itself, since there are some new packages we should be getting published now
[17:55] <cyphermox> thanks
[17:55] <cyphermox> jibel: there should be a new run starting in 5 minutes
[19:16] <tedg> larsu, So it seems if I have a menu with sections in sections the second level of sections don't get separators.


[04:30] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[11:49] <elkng> I searching for particular anime, people said its very scary, its short, about 20-30 minutes, I saw only first 10 seconds, there was a dark narrow street with red lanterns, like some kind of chineese festival, and a group of people in masks walking,
[11:49] <elkng>  does anybody know what it is ?


[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #121442 in arts (main) "artsd crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121442
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #121443 in Ubuntu "onboard intel video not working on sepang" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121443
[12:13] <bdmurray> where are all these new bugs coming from?
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #121444 in kdebase (main) "Sp error in katesessionmenu.cpp:129" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121444
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #121445 in meta-gnome2 (universe) "gnome-core-devel uninstallable on gutsy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121445
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #121446 in ubiquity (main) "install.py crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121446
[12:30] <Kmos> bdmurray: some from gutsy
[12:32] <bdmurray> I guess I was curious as to who submitted them.
[12:32] <Kmos> !info libtelepathy-dev
[12:33] <ubotu> libtelepathy-dev: Telepathy framework - GLib library headers. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.51-3 (feisty), package size 42 kB, installed size 400 kB
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #121447 in gnome-panel (main) "Both About Ubuntu and About Edubuntu show up in menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121447
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #121452 in openoffice.org (main) "splash split between screens in multihead setup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121452
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #121454 in Ubuntu "File transfer to USB device" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121454
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #121456 in apt (main) "New apt version forces uninstallation of adept" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121456
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #121457 in gnash (universe) "gnash 0.8.0 release" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121457
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #121458 in httptunnel (universe) "[patch]  fix broken --stdin-stdout option that writes to stdin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121458
[01:25] <bdmurray> calc: does 104752 make sense to you?
[01:27] <blueyed> Is bug 66278 worth a SRU?
[01:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 66278 in grub "[patch]  update-grub: savedefault can cause problems" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/66278
[01:28] <Jell1> Hi
[01:28] <blueyed> Hi Jell1
[01:29] <Jell1> I need an advice to report a bug. A precise URL is impossible to join with any web browser on Ubuntu. But is fine with any browser in Win. I have no idea in which section I need to report this bug.
[01:30] <blueyed> Let us test it. What's the URL?
[01:30] <Jell1> http://gui-.deviantart.com/
[01:31] <blueyed> "Unknown host" - is this the error you're getting?
[01:31] <Jell1> it is yes
[01:31] <blueyed> And on windows it re-directs somewhere?
[01:32] <Jell1> Not at all. a piece of my post in forums:
[01:32] <Jell1> Ubuntu Feisty:
[01:32] <Jell1> _Opera: V.9.21 = negatif
[01:32] <Jell1> _Firefox V.<IP_ADDRESS>= negatif
[01:32] <Jell1> _Epiphany V.2.18.1= negatif
[01:32] <Jell1> _Konqueror V.3.5.6 = negatif
[01:32] <Jell1> Windows:
[01:32] <Jell1> _Firefox V.<IP_ADDRESS>= Positif
[01:33] <Jell1> _Opera: V.9.21 = Positif
[01:33] <Jell1> _I.E. V.6.0 = Positif
[01:34] <blueyed> Jell1: strange. This seems to be something DNS related. In fact "dig" (a CLI tool) can resolve it.
[01:34] <blueyed> Just file it against no package/Ubuntu.
[01:34] <Jell1> ok
[01:35] <Jell1> Thanks a lot
[01:38] <ajmitch> probably because it's an invalid address according to the DNS specs
[01:38] <ajmitch> '-' is not a valid character
[01:39] <ajmitch> sorry, it's allowed within a name, just not to start/end it
[01:39] <calc> bug 104752
[01:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 104752 in openoffice.org "listfields on tablecolumns doesn't work " [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104752
[01:40] <calc> bdmurray: will have to look into, i'm not very familar with base
[01:43] <bdmurray> calc: okay, neither I am
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #121461 in gtkmm2.4 (main) "linking problem on i386 vs amd64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121461
[01:47] <calc> ubotu: yea my bug showed up
[01:47] <calc> i hit that bug trying to merge inkscape
[01:49] <bdmurray> calc: you are supposed to close bugs not open new ones. :(
[01:49] <calc> yea yea yea
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #121462 in network-manager-applet (main) "Missing dependency on NetworkManager (dup-of: 121377)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121462
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #121463 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox crashes when cancel on burning an audio cd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121463
[02:01] <ubotu> New bug: #121464 in xmlto (main) "passivetex missing in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121464
[02:01] <TheMuso> c
[02:01] <TheMuso> ugh
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #121465 in console-data (universe) "Merge console-data 2:1.02-1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121465
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #121467 in Ubuntu "unable to acces to a specific url with any navigator." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121467
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #121469 in gnome-panel (main) "audigy SE (SB0570 chipset) fails to output sound" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121469
[02:36] <ubotu> New bug: #121471 in evolution (main) "Some NNTP news folders go blank after update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121471
[02:36] <ubotu> New bug: #121472 in firefox (main) "On some website dropdown menus Firefox covers the entire area below the menus with a white box." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121472
[02:36] <ubotu> New bug: #121474 in firefox (main) "firefox causes system to log out" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121474
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #121476 in mplayer (multiverse) "Use Compiz' "video" plugin when available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121476
[03:31] <ubotu> New bug: #121477 in network-manager-applet (main) "network-manager-gnome crashes on connecting to router" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121477
[04:16] <ubotu> New bug: #121479 in xorg-docs (universe) "Please sync xorg-docs (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121479
[04:37] <mattyv> When doing "Nominate for release", does selecting Gutsy mean you are requesting the current Gutsy version of a package be released to Feisty since the bug has been in Gutsy?
[04:37] <mattyv> *has been fixed
[04:45] <crimsun> no
[04:45] <crimsun> you nominate the _target_ release
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #121481 in penguintv (universe) "PenguinTV crashes on load" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121481
[04:45] <crimsun> it's assumed, unless otherwise indicated, that the current development version is discussed
[04:46] <crimsun> thus, bugs are filed against source packages in the current development version.  If you want the fix to propagate to a prior stable [and supported, of course]  release, then you nominate that release
[04:47] <crimsun> e.g., file a bug against the current source package (gutsy), change the status of gutsy's appropriately (Fix Released), nominate a feisty task, etc.
[04:47] <mattyv> I see, thanks
[04:48] <mattyv> Had been waiting for help on this for a while
[05:01] <mattyv> crimsun: Still having a bit of trouble working out how to handle bug #72262, would you mind helping?
[05:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 72262 in openoffice.org "Form Wizard in Base does not complete" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/72262
[05:02] <crimsun> it has already been nominated for both edgy and feisty
[05:02] <crimsun> (or did you have another specific question?)
[05:06] <mattyv> It's broken in edgy and feisty, but fixed in gutsy, wondering how to make sure the fixed version makes its way back to previous stable releases
[05:07] <mattyv> Should it be labled fix released?
[05:07] <mattyv> Sorry, new to this but trying to do my bit
[05:08] <crimsun> ok, it has been nominated for both edgy and feisty.
[05:08] <crimsun> now work must be done [by community members, possibly coordinated by calc]  to backport the fixes to said supported stable releases.
[05:08] <crimsun> the procedure is outlined at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[05:09] <crimsun> normally I would approve the edgy task you've opened, but the IRC client of the Canonical employee who cares for OO.o is online here in this channel.  Because he has jurisdiction over OO.o packages, it's his call, not mine.
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #121482 in synaptic (main) "PeaZip not found in Universe repository" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121482
[05:10] <crimsun> (I've mentioned his IRC nick above; you should contact him and coordinate the SRU debdiff)
[05:10] <crimsun> the former KDE maintainer no less :-]
[05:11] <ajmitch> from one insanity to another
[05:11] <Burgundavia_> which bug?
[05:11] <crimsun> 72262
[05:11] <Burgundavia_> bug #72262
[05:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 72262 in openoffice.org "Form Wizard in Base does not complete" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/72262
[05:12] <Burgundavia_> so who is this new victim?
[05:13] <crimsun> the one and only Chris Cheney :)
[05:13] <mattyv> I got slightly conflicting info from another source, which had made me confused, even with reading the SRU wiki
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #121484 in Ubuntu "mouse themes don't work on xubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121484
[05:41] <calc> crimsun: hmm?
[05:41] <calc> the poor sucker is back
[05:42] <crimsun> calc: mattyv has an edgy SRU question regarding bug 72262
[05:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 72262 in openoffice.org "Form Wizard in Base does not complete" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/72262
[05:43] <mattyv> Was just finding calc's contact details through launchpad too :)
[05:44] <calc> Burgundavia_: oh yea i need member/motu/core asap too so anything you want me to do to get that is welcomed ;)
[05:44] <calc> Burgundavia_: as i recall you are a CC member :)
[05:44] <ajmitch> calc: my condolences
[05:44] <calc> mattyv<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:44] <calc> mattyv: yea feel free to nominate/fix released the bug
[05:45] <calc> mattyv: or whatever you were talking about earlier, i was away from keyboard for a couple hours there
[05:45] <calc> ajmitch: heh, so far it seems easier to deal with than KDE was ;)
[05:45] <calc> ajmitch: i maintained KDE for debian for about 3-4 years
[05:45] <ajmitch> calc: and quicker to build?
[05:45] <ajmitch> yeah I know :)
[05:46] <calc> ajmitch: not sure i upgraded my system since then, a cached nogsi build of ooo takes ~ 40m for me
[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #121485 in Ubuntu "After installing Ubuntu I get the message, "GRUB loading...error 21"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121485
[05:46] <ajmitch> that's not bad
[05:46] <ajmitch> better than the 12+ hours it blocks buildds for
[05:46] <calc> i have a c2d 2.8ghz
[05:46] <calc> with 2gb ram
[05:46] <calc> haven't tested to see how long it takes on my laptop, its only a c2d 1.7ghz 1gb though
[05:47] <ajmitch> but I don't plan to build it :)
[05:47] <calc> probably would take around 1hr cached on my laptop
[05:48] <ajmitch> being a DD should help a bit
[05:48] <ajmitch> I think the techboard could take that into consideration
[05:48] <calc> ajmitch: probably so
[05:49] <calc> i'm on the list to try to get member access at the next CC meeting
[05:49] <calc> started working on merges today and found a pretty nasty bug in gtkmm2.4 already
[05:49] <ajmitch> yay
[05:49] <calc> i
[05:49] <calc> er i'm going to try to clear as many merges as possible in the next week
[05:49] <ajmitch> you should get an application in to become a MOTU soon then
[05:49] <calc> about 2.5 weeks before london sprint
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #121486 in Ubuntu "automatic user logout or computer freeze while using firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121486
[05:51] <ajmitch> though there's no formal thing for existing DDs coming into ubuntu that I know of
[05:52] <calc> ajmitch: yea
[05:52] <ajmitch> bribes help
[05:53] <calc> ajmitch: lol
[05:54] <calc> ajmitch: hey you are on the TB eh?
[05:54] <calc> :)
[05:54] <ajmitch> nah, just motu council with crimsun
[05:54] <calc> oh ok
[05:54] <calc> hmm so shouldn't be too hard to get motu ;)
[05:54] <ajmitch> but we have to put in recommendations for core dev to the TB
[05:55] <calc> so i know at least 3 motu council people
[05:55] <calc> not too shabby
[05:56] <calc> oh and all of the TB
[05:56] <ajmitch> no surprise
[05:56] <calc> so 7 out of 10 isn't bad
[05:56] <calc> i just need to get my stuff in order so it doesn't look like i am getting in from knowing the right people, heh
[05:58] <ajmitch> how about knowing the right skills?
[05:58] <calc> indeed
[05:59] <ajmitch> being a DD for several years has to count for something
[05:59] <calc> i'm not going to apply until i at least know that and have done a number of merges... successfully
[06:00] <ajmitch> there's still plenty of willing uploaders
[06:00] <ajmitch> as long as it's not OOo :)
[06:00] <calc> i've been a DD since july 2000 (when the queue unfreeze happened) but hadn't done a lot with it since early 2005 due to my job condition
[06:00] <calc> ajmitch: heh yea
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #121487 in gnome-ppp (universe) "Gnome-PPP will not dock or minimize after GTK2 update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121487
[06:00] <calc> ajmitch: i have an uploader or two for OOo
[06:00] <ajmitch> people with bandwidth
[06:00] <calc> i can probably get keescook and doko to do OOo uploads for me
[06:01] <calc> ouch
[06:03] <ajmitch> I'm in NZ, we're used to that
[06:10] <ubotu> New bug: #121488 in xapian-bindings (universe) "Please sync xapian-bindings (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121488
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #121490 in Ubuntu "gusty freezes right after login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121490
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #121491 in camorama (universe) "Camorama can't take picture: "Could not create directory"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121491
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #121493 in Ubuntu "E: _cache->open() failed, run dpkg configure -a" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121493
[06:55] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: you need to deal with that with your usual style
[06:55] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: LP is down.
[06:55] <ajmitch> I know
[06:56] <lifeless> its meant to be down.
[06:57] <ajmitch> I saw the notice
[06:58] <lifeless> you mean you noticed it ?
[06:58] <lifeless> :)
[06:58] <ajmitch> no, I saw it, but didn't pay much attention :)
[06:58] <Hobbsee> lifeless: ooh, i guess this is the rollout.  so i can use INVALID now :D
[06:59] <Hobbsee> hahahaha
[06:59] <Hobbsee> lifeless: feature request.
[07:33] <lifeless> Hobbsee: :)
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #121497 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "CD Images aren't burned well" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121497
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #121499 in Ubuntu "Donation recognition" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121499
[07:56] <Burgundavia> bug #121499
[07:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121499 in Ubuntu "Donation recognition" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121499
[07:57] <Hobbsee> Burgundavia: that's usually a canonical thing, isnt it?
[07:57] <Burgundavia> Hobbsee: I punted it to mark
[07:58] <Hobbsee> ahh
[08:00] <Hobbsee> lifeless: ping
[08:01] <Admiral_Chicago> w00t! new LP page is up
[08:25] <thekorn> good morning
[08:27] <coNP> moin moin
[08:30] <Admiral_Chicago> hey the thekorn
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #121369 in emdebian-tools (universe) "emdebian-tools.postinst" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121369
[08:31] <thekorn> hello coNP, Admiral_Chicago
[08:31] <coNP> now it's time we change the whole bug triaging process description in the wiki
[08:33] <lifeless> Hobbsee: pong
[08:34] <Hobbsee> lifeless: anyone you know who's looking for some ram?
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> question: how does one apply the patch to the bughelper / py-lp-bugs packages
[08:34] <Hobbsee> notebook ram
[08:34] <Burgundavia> Hobbsee: what do you have?
[08:36] <Hobbsee> Burgundavia: various bits.  anything specific?
[08:36] <Burgundavia> Hobbsee: if you have any 512 sticks, I would love htme
[08:36] <Burgundavia> I only have 512 in this laptop
[08:36] <Hobbsee> pc2100, pc133
[08:36] <Hobbsee> what type of ram?
[08:36] <Burgundavia> hmm, I have no idea anymore
[08:37] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: trying to get rid of yours so you can upgrade?
[08:37] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: *grin*
[08:37] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: no.  this is stuff from computers that dont turn on, or that did get upgraded
[08:37] <ajmitch> ah
[08:38] <Hobbsee> heh
[08:38] <ajmitch> this one has issues
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> ajmitch: what kind of issues/
[08:38] <ajmitch> sound is often breaking
[08:39] <ajmitch> various small things
[08:39] <Burgundavia> I am thinking of using part of my upcoming student loan to get a tablet pc
[08:39] <ajmitch> sadly I can't really justify spending to get a new computer
[08:39] <ajmitch> Burgundavia: student again?
[08:39] <Burgundavia> indeed
[08:39] <ajmitch> what are you studying?
[08:39] <Burgundavia> geography
[08:40] <ajmitch> interesting, why?
[08:40] <Burgundavia> Hobbsee: mine is pc2700
[08:40] <Burgundavia> end goal of a masters in urban planning
[08:40] <Hobbsee> Burgundavia: ahh.  cant help you, i ssupect
[08:40] <Burgundavia> nope http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR_SDRAM
[08:40] <Burgundavia> 2700 slots can take 2100
[08:41] <ajmitch> ok
[08:41] <ajmitch> sigh, time to go out & enjoy the cold, wet weather
[08:44] <Admiral_Chicago> i need a new machine. broke my main machine which I do dev work on. stuck on my brothers.
[08:44] <Admiral_Chicago> :\
[08:44] <DarkMageZ> Admiral_Chicago, how'd you break the old one?
[08:44] <Admiral_Chicago> DarkMageZ: motherboard fried on my while I was watching a video
[08:45] <DarkMageZ> cheap mobo's are only $50
[08:46] <Admiral_Chicago> yea, but I'd like to move to a laptop soon, hard to help out when I'm chained to a tower as well..
[08:49] <DarkMageZ> i moved to a laptop. i've moved back to the desktop system as it has the bigger screen & better sound :P
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #121501 in bughelper (universe) "bughelper is outdated due to LP update." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121501
[08:50] <Hobbsee> hi mvo
[08:50] <mvo> hey Hobbsee
[08:51] <thekorn> Admiral_Chicago: the status landed in launchpad, you worked on a patch for bughelper and py-lp-bugs, right?
[08:51] <Admiral_Chicago> DarkMageZ: i can see that but I had such a hectic schedule due to school last semester that it made it a hassle running back to look at emails or irc
[08:51] <Admiral_Chicago> thekorn: yea, I attached the patch as well
[08:52] <thekorn> oh I see bug 121501 is your report
[08:52] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121501 in bughelper "bughelper is outdated due to LP update." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121501
[08:52] <Admiral_Chicago> thekorn: for both py-lp-bugs and bughelper
[08:52] <Admiral_Chicago> i just made teh bug report because I was unsure of which way to properly bring that issue up
[08:52] <Admiral_Chicago> yep
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago> as is bug 121503
[08:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121503 in python-launchpad-bugs "python-launchpad-bugs is outdated due to LP update" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121503
[08:54] <thekorn> Admiral_Chicago: I'm afraid your pathes won't work
[08:55] <Admiral_Chicago> why is that?
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #121503 in python-launchpad-bugs (main) "python-launchpad-bugs is outdated due to LP update" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121503
[08:55] <Admiral_Chicago> forgive me as I am very new to the whole python and patching game
[08:55] <dholbach> good morning
[08:56] <thekorn> Admiral_Chicago: the problem is that we need the status as it is used in the launchpad url
[08:56] <thekorn> like "Won't Fix"
[08:56] <thekorn> hey dholbach
[08:57] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i see what you mean
[08:57] <Admiral_Chicago> let me look
[08:57] <dholbach> hey thekorn
[08:57] <thekorn> and there is no "Todo"
[08:59] <Admiral_Chicago> i saw there was one in the email
[09:00] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe it wasn't implemented in LP
[09:00] <thekorn> dholbach: bughelper 0.1 seems to be totally broken for me
[09:01] <dholbach> oh?
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #121504 in module-init-tools (main) "test availability of firmware for bcm43xx" [Low,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121504
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #121505 in firefox (main) "<window xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121505
[09:01] <thekorn> dholbach: /0.1$ ./bugnumbers -p firefox
[09:01] <thekorn> No bugs found.
[09:01] <Hobbsee> thekorn: that just means that someone did a lot of triaging overnight!
[09:01] <Hobbsee> and bug fixing!
[09:01] <dholbach> hehehehe
[09:02] <thekorn> yeah
[09:02] <dholbach> sounds more like we did changes in py-lp-bugs at some stage that are not in bughelper0.1
[09:02] <Admiral_Chicago> thekorn: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-June/000305.html is the emal sent to -devel-announce ML
[09:02] <thekorn> dholbach: you are right
[09:03] <Admiral_Chicago> no don't worry about that, I patched all the bugs in one day :D
[09:03] <thekorn> dholbach: or maybe not, bughelper0.1 is not using py-lp-bugs
[09:04] <dholbach> yes, it had py-lp-bugs in the source
[09:04] <thekorn> anyway, I will have a closer look at the code after uni
[09:14] <thekorn> Admiral_Chicago: i commented on your bugreports, thanks again
[09:14] <thekorn> have to run now,
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm working on patches now, seems i'm clumsy and a slow reader
[09:18] <dholbach> see you theko
[09:18] <dholbach> rn
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> dholbach: did "ToDo" get removed from LP
[09:23] <Admiral_Chicago> as a bug state that is
[09:23] <dholbach> it never existed
[09:25] <Admiral_Chicago> it was on the ML, was it not implemented? I swear people keep telling me it doesn't exist, i may be going crazy
[09:26] <ubotu> New bug: #121506 in Ubuntu "chicony usb 2.0 Camera doesn't work linux" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121506
[09:27] <Hobbsee> Admiral_Chicago: that's the one they didnt implement
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> ah okay, nobody told me that so I sat at my desk mumbling to myself for several hours
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Hobbsee: i didn't see that in the ML discussions, i'll have to read better in the future
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks
[09:31] <Admiral_Chicago> better patches submitted, maybe those will work and not suck.
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #121511 in vlc (universe) "[VLC]  Format string injection in Vorbis, Theora, SAP and CDDA plugins" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121511
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #121513 in kdenetwork (main) "Kopete disconnects from groupwise" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121513
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #121515 in Ubuntu "It is convenient that after pressing Ctrl_L and typing an URL in the nautilus, nautilus will open firefox to browse the URL." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121515
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #121517 in Ubuntu "Live CD should recommend alternate CD on slow computers" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121517
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #121518 in rawstudio (universe) "Please sync rawstudio (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121518
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #121522 in Ubuntu "memory stick error under Feisty " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121522
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #121524 in evince (main) "improve evince-gtk printing of multiple LANDSCAPE pages per sheed " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121524
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #121525 in gnome-control-center (main) "Session entry refers to "the preferred AT" (the what?)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121525
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #121527 in lvm2 (main) "lvm mirroring doesn't work in Edgy/Feisty" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121527
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #121528 in libcommons-dbcp-java (universe) "Please sync libcommons-dbcp-java" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121528
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #121529 in gtk-recordmydesktop (universe) "gtk-recordmydesktop fails on apt-get install" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121529
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #121537 in update-manager (main) "package update-manager failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: SystemError in cache.commit(): E:I wasn't able to locate file for the libc6 package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121537
[01:21] <ubotu> New bug: #121539 in youtube-dl (universe) "can't download with youtube-dl" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121539
[01:21] <ubotu> New bug: #121540 in ubiquity (main) ""Where are you?" SAIGON should be named "Ho Chi Minh City"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121540
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #121541 in Ubuntu "no UUID # for WinXP drive" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121541
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #121542 in purple-plugin-pack (universe) "Show Offline plugin only works after Show Offline Buddies is selected" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121542
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #121543 in network-manager-applet (main) "Network-manager-gnome 0.6.5 crash on wi-fi connections" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121543
[01:56] <Nafallo> lol
[01:57] <Nafallo> how... convenient :-P
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #121544 in adept (main) "Adept crashes when updating adept related packages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121544
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #121546 in Ubuntu "PPC installer panics" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121546
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #121547 in ltsp (main) "[Gutsy]  LTSP chroot building process hangs at 50%" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121547
[02:25] <xxxxx1> join #bzr
[02:25] <xxxxx1> ops
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #121548 in streamripper (universe) "crash when re-connecting to  LastFMProxy 1.1 at http://localhost:1881/" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121548
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #121549 in mplayerplug-in (multiverse) "added Xb-Npp-xxx tags accordingly to "firefox distro add-on suport" spec " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121549
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #121554 in Ubuntu "Synaptics Touchpad not detected" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121554
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #121556 in gnome-speech (main) "merge: gnome-speech 0.4.13-2ubuntu1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121556
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #121557 in xapian-bindings (universe) "Need to sync xapian-bindings 1.0.1-1 from Debian" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121557
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #121559 in beryl-core (universe) "beryl crashed with amsn" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121559
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #121562 in Ubuntu "Beryl XGL hangs when screensaver is unlocked" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121562
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #121564 in rtorrent (universe) "depend on libcurl4 instead of libcurl4-openssl" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121564
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #121566 in network-manager (main) "no network with dhcp set up" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121566
[04:11] <thekorn> dholbach: I'm looking at the broken bughelper 0.1 at the moment,
[04:11] <thekorn> it is again an Regex issue
[04:13] <thekorn> is it posible to release a new feisty version with XPath instead of RegEx?
[04:18] <dholbach> thekorn: that'd be a huge diff :-(
[04:20] <thekorn> yeah, that's true, or we need some solid regular expressions
[04:21] <thekorn> or we have to change small bits of the code often
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #121570 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "bcm43xx stops working after certain time" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121570
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #121572 in totem (main) "greenish border/stripe appear beside movie screen while playing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121572
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #121573 in Ubuntu "glipper doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121573
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #121574 in Ubuntu "nvidia X crashes whenever applications use gl" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121574
[04:41] <ubotu> New bug: #121555 in language-pack-kde-sl-base "slovenian translations getting broken by the translation system" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121555
[04:46] <ubotu> New bug: #121575 in debian-installer (main) "unable to locate R.S.D.P" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121575
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #121576 in Ubuntu "Regularly freezes when shutting down" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121576
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #121577 in openoffice.org2 (main) "Startup picture openoffice in front of user interface" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121577
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #121578 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "[Gutsy]  LiveCD hangs at "shpchp" hardware driver" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121578
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #121580 in nautilus (main) "Wrong interface to file permissions on Nautilus" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121580
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #121581 in update-manager (main) "[gutsy]  update-manager doesn't update anymore" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121581
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #121583 in udev (main) "when using udevinfo with an ftdi-device a segmentation fault occurs" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121583
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #121584 in bughelper (universe) "feisty's bughelper 0.1 does not work anymore" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121584
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #121585 in upstart (main) "single user mode: doesn't proceed to RL 2 on exit" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121585
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #121586 in console-setup (main) "Wrong console charset setup" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121586
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #121587 in Ubuntu "Bildschirmauflsung nicht hher als 800x600 pixel einstellbar, Fenster werden nicht vollstndig angezeigt." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121587
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #121588 in Ubuntu "NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]  graphic driver issue" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121588
[06:11] <ubotu> New bug: #121589 in audacious-plugins (universe) "Sync audacious-plugins (1.3.5-1) from debian unstable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121589
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #121590 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "[wishlist]  please provide a param wich returns disabled modules" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121590
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #121592 in edubuntu-meta (main) "DVD ROM locks system.  SH-D162C" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121592
[06:51] <ubotu> New bug: #121593 in gmsh (universe) "Merge gmsh (2.0.7-1.1) from debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121593
[06:51] <ubotu> New bug: #121594 in evolution (main) "cannot connect with restricted cipher list" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121594
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #121552 in Ubuntu "i'm to use toshiba A75 series laptop PC, and OS is Ubuntu, but sometimes ubuntu is not responding..." [Wishlist,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121552
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #121595 in Ubuntu "hardinfo crashed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121595
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #121565 in beryl-core (universe) "Beryl freeze my computer" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121565
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #121597 in Ubuntu "Feisty Fawn - GeForce 7900 - no sound" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121597
[07:31] <Admiral_Chicago> ...thats a video card.
[07:41] <ubotu> New bug: #121598 in liferea (main) "Negative amount of unread items" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121598
[07:46] <ubotu> New bug: #121599 in totem (main) "I cannot play .dat file using totem movie player" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121599
[08:05] <ubotu> New bug: #121600 in Ubuntu "Package fop from apache xmlgraphics" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121600
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #121601 in Ubuntu "Intermittent SATA drive in Fiesty" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121601
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #121603 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Kernel 2.6.22-6.13 hangs on boot on HP nx6125" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121603
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #121604 in xdialog (universe) "Xdialog wrapper script not working" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121604
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #121605 in network-manager-applet (main) "(gutsy]  segfault on joining secure network" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121605
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #121607 in hal (main) "epson 2580 photo = Fehler beim ffnen ... snapscan:libsub:004:003 " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121607
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #121609 in firefox (main) "[HELP WANTED]  mozillateam - various things to do in mozillateam" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121609
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #121611 in openoffice.org (main) "Merged document spawns duplicate graphics" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121611
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #121612 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "[sata_sil]  SATA PCI not working (chipset: SiI3512)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121612
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #121617 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121617
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #121615 in openoffice.org (main) "ZIP column from spreadsheet wrong database type" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121615
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #121619 in hwdb-client (main) "hwdb-kde crashed with UnboundLocalError in get_xorgdata()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121619
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #121624 in alsa-driver (main) "strange audio feedback" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121624
[10:55] <Kmos> bug 119995
[10:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119995 in deluge-torrent "new upstream version available" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119995
[11:01] <lousygarua> hmm how do u add a new .deb to the repositories? like this last 'bug' thing?
[11:01] <lousygarua> who is authorized
[11:01] <pochu> Everybody in launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev
[11:11] <ubotu> New bug: #121630 in gnome-terminal (main) "gnome-terminal crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121630
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #121632 in Ubuntu "Cannot Close Desklet" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121632


[10:35] <ajnr> Hi , I am facing a font issue in jar file. It works on eclipse environment but after creating the jar file it wont work on it. How to solve .Please help me out http://pastebin.com/LtynePtB


[01:31] <georgeowell> Just installing 15.10 on my laptop
[01:32] <georgeowell> Want to dual boot with the Windows malware
[01:32] <georgeowell> So tense...
[01:39] <georgeowell> hehe worked like a charm
[02:44] <georgeowell> Will the GNOME3 desktop work on top of all the ubuntu studio stuff
[02:53] <OvenWerks> georgeowell: no reason that I know for it not to so long as you are using ubuntu packages. Can't say as I have been there myself though.
[02:56] <georgeowell> Maybe I'll leave that experiment for another time.
[02:57] <georgeowell> Somethings happened with my Jack setup already
[02:58] <georgeowell> I'm getting D-BUS: Jack Server could not be started
[02:58] <OvenWerks> I think we need a better jack tool... I would like a better jack package as well. having both jackd and jackdbus on the same system does have some uses, but seems to cause more trouble than it is worth.
[02:58] <georgeowell> is there a way of returning to the default config?
[02:58] <OvenWerks> how do you start jack? qjackctl?
[02:59] <georgeowell> yep
[02:59] <georgeowell> The only parameter I changed was Frames/Period
[02:59] <OvenWerks> in a terminal try killall -9 jackd jackdbus.
[02:59] <OvenWerks> default is 1024/2
[03:00] <OvenWerks> then restart jackdbus using qjackctl
[03:00] <georgeowell> OvenWerks, I got "no process found"
[03:00] <OvenWerks>  sometimes if jack is not running a jack application will start jackd which blocks jackdbus from starting
[03:01] <OvenWerks> that is ok I think.
[03:01] <OvenWerks> what happens if you try jack_control start?
[03:03] <leo_> hey sorry just jumped into IRC on Ubuntu Studio box
[03:03] <OvenWerks> hello
[03:04] <leo_> OvenWerks, I'm getting:
[03:04] <leo_> DBus exception: org.jackaudio.Error.Generic: Failed to open server
[03:04] <leo_> I rebooted as well
[03:04] <OvenWerks> Does this mean you are the same person as georgeowell ?
[03:04] <leo_> yep
[03:04] <OvenWerks> ah.
[03:05] <leo_> sorry, asif I needed the make the situation any more complicated :)
[03:05] <OvenWerks> But it was working before?
[03:06] <OvenWerks> leo_: try this in a terminal:
[03:06] <OvenWerks> cd /tmp && wget http://jackaudio.org/downloads/adevices.sh && bash ./adevices.sh
[03:06] <leo_> yep perfectly
[03:06] <OvenWerks> paste the output to pastebin.com or similar
[03:08] <leo_> Would it help if I showed you the errors direct from qjackctl messages?
[03:08] <OvenWerks> The above command will tell more I think.
[03:09] <leo_> there's the qjackctl stuff
[03:09] <leo_> http://pastebin.com/Xj7nPhQE
[03:10] <leo_> and the result of the jackaudio script
[03:10] <leo_> http://pastebin.com/Dzm2JFsT
[03:10] <OvenWerks> leo_: That just says something else is using it.
[03:11] <leo_> So something is starting jack automatically?
[03:12] <OvenWerks> leo_: or that you have specified a device that does not exist.
[03:12] <leo_> OvenWerks, thanks so much for this btw. I only just installed so this is super frustrating.
[03:12] <OvenWerks> The second one shows nothing is using a device
[03:12] <OvenWerks> which device are you trying to connect to?
[03:13] <leo_> ok wtf, it just started working again. Sorry 2 secs, let me just test.
[03:13] <OvenWerks> The second paste should have had a lot more info.
[03:15]  * OvenWerks has not run that with no jackdbus running though
[03:16] <OvenWerks> leo_: I think hw:MID is the device you want to use.
[03:17] <leo_> Yep, that's the right device.
[03:17] <leo_> I just don't understand why it got all messed up
[03:18] <leo_> I thought it was working for a second but now I'm in the same situation as when I began
[03:21] <OvenWerks> ok lets try jack_control exit
[03:22] <leo_> tried that already
[03:22] <OvenWerks> jack_control ds alsa dps capture none dps playback none
[03:22] <leo_> This is what I get on jack_control start: DBus exception: org.jackaudio.Error.Generic: Failed to open server
[03:23] <OvenWerks> jack_control jack_control dps device hw:MID dps rate 48000 dps period 1024 dps nperiods 2 start
[03:23] <OvenWerks> ok killall -9 jackdbus jackd
[03:23] <leo_> same error
[03:23] <OvenWerks> then three commands above in the same order.
[03:25] <leo_> ok, it appears to be working
[03:25] <leo_> shall I try qjackctl
[03:25] <leo_> ?
[03:26] <OvenWerks> qjackctl should show jack as already running
[03:26] <OvenWerks> (go ahead)
[03:26] <leo_> hehe
[03:26] <leo_> its working
[03:26] <leo_> thanks so much!! :)
[03:27]  * leo_ hugs OvenWerks in glee
[03:27] <OvenWerks> leo_: ok, that tells me that you probably have an odd setup in qjackctl.
[03:27] <leo_> ok
[03:28] <leo_> it's something to do with "frames/period"
[03:28] <leo_> it is now 4096
[03:28] <OvenWerks> leo_: did you change name from (default)?
[03:28] <leo_> nope
[03:28] <OvenWerks> 4096 may be to high for your card
[03:29] <OvenWerks> it is too high for my multi track card.
[03:29] <leo_> I changed it from 4096 and then the problem started
[03:29] <OvenWerks> try 1024 (which is what we used from command line)
[03:29] <leo_> It works on 4096
[03:30] <leo_> is that the buffer size?
[03:30] <OvenWerks> It work on 1024, because that is how we started it from the command line
[03:30] <leo_> ok
[03:30] <leo_> I'll change it in qjack and see what happens
[03:30] <OvenWerks> it is part of the buffer size.
[03:31] <OvenWerks> buffer size is frames times periods
[03:32] <OvenWerks> 1024/2 is normally the highest anyone goes
[03:32] <leo_> yep
[03:32] <leo_> It's working
[03:32] <OvenWerks> there will be a noticable delay between audio going in to audio coming out
[03:32] <leo_> yep
[03:32] <OvenWerks>  (43 ms)
[03:33] <leo_> Is it possible to go lower with intel audio without xruns?
[03:33] <OvenWerks> 64/2 is very good, but I find internal audio can normally not get below 128/2
[03:33] <leo_> I still need to get a linux compatible interface
[03:33] <OvenWerks> no xruns depends on a lot of things :)
[03:33] <leo_> i'll try 256
[03:34] <leo_> hehe my bastion of fire into the linux audio world!!
[03:34] <OvenWerks> On my lap top I found I had to unload the wifi driver.
[03:34] <leo_> ah yes, even disabling the wifi on my mac helps latency
[03:35] <leo_> 256 is fine for me right now
[03:36] <OvenWerks> 256/2 is not too bad, 512 sounds echoy if you are monitoring from the soundcard. Recording with 1024/2 with external monitoring is fine though.
[03:36] <leo_> I'm going to get one of those focusrite scarlett interfaces
[03:36] <leo_> then see how far I can push it
[03:36] <OvenWerks> with USB try each USB plug on the computer. Some of them with share interupts with other things.
[03:37] <OvenWerks> you want a clean interupt for lowest latency
[03:37] <leo_> I'm not actually using this linux setup for recording yet, just for playing around with all the cool free software stuff
[03:37] <leo_> I'm on a thinkpad so there's many to try
[03:37] <leo_> What audio interface are you using?
[03:38] <OvenWerks> I am using an old Maudio delta66 PCI card.
[03:38] <OvenWerks> I can get .7ms latency with it. (16/2)
[03:39] <OvenWerks> (plus 1ms each way for the ADC/DAC)
[03:39] <leo_> that's pretty amazing
[03:39] <leo_> on my macbook pro, I probably get 11ms.
[03:39] <OvenWerks> nobody makes PCI stuff anymore
[03:40] <OvenWerks> PCIe stuff is $1k for just about anything worth whle.
[03:40] <leo_> From research, some of the Focusrite USB interfaces are working well with Linux
[03:41] <OvenWerks> yes or the 1818vsl (i think)
[03:42] <OvenWerks> https://www.presonus.com/products/AudioBox-1818VSL or it's siblings
[03:43] <OvenWerks> (theres a 22 and a 44 as well)
[03:44] <OvenWerks> I would stay away from the USB mic. You want your interface to have both the inputs and outputs you use for recording if possible.
[03:44] <OvenWerks> otherwise you have to use sample rate conversion to sync them.
[03:45] <leo_> thanks for the advice
[03:46] <leo_> I was looking at this: http://us.focusrite.com/usb-audio-interfaces/scarlett-6i6
[03:46] <leo_> I've used them before
[03:47] <leo_> and can test with Linux before I buy
[03:48] <OvenWerks> looks good but I have never used one before. I normally take my laptop to the music store and try what I want in the store.
[03:48] <OvenWerks> be aware that it may not be possible to control everything in the box, so if any effects come with it you may not be able to control them.
[03:49] <leo_> Yeh, a good music shop will be cool with that.
[03:49] <leo_> Yeh, only need the raw ins and outs
[03:49] <leo_> not bothered about their fancy routing software
[03:50] <OvenWerks> heres the user guide: http://d3se566zfvnmhf.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/focusrite/downloads/9439/scarlett6i6-user-guideen.pdf
[03:51] <leo_> Thanks
[03:52] <leo_> You've been so helpful. What a credit to this community.
[03:52] <OvenWerks>  not sure if MixControl would be useful from wine or not... or if you want wine on the system
[03:52] <leo_> I'll send you over some of the music I make using free software :)
[03:52] <leo_> I just got back from Berlin, so it's all Techno I'm afraid.
[03:57] <leo_> Well anyway all credit to the Ubuntu Studio project
[03:58] <leo_> didn't think I'd be having this much fun with music on Linux
[03:58] <OvenWerks> Almost all manufactures have the manuals on line.
[03:59] <OvenWerks> It seems that 6i6 stuff in Linux is quite new 15.04 and newer
[04:01] <leo_> ah maybe I might need to go for a more basic model
[04:01] <leo_> that has more stable support
[04:02] <leo_> I wonder who is working on that specifically
[04:02] <leo_> I'll love to donate a bit of cash to them
[04:02] <OvenWerks> I think it will be similar for any of them.
[04:02] <OvenWerks> The alsa project is doing that.
[04:04] <leo_> It's great work
[04:05] <leo_> Ardour is looking super nice these days as well
[04:07] <OvenWerks> anyway, I should go eat.
[04:10] <leo_> Thanks so much for your help!
[04:11] <leo_> I copied all the commands so I should be able to fix it myself next time
[04:15] <leo_> here's a sample of what I'm working on
[04:16] <leo_> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/owncloud/index.php/s/cQ2Wxr6seapw4vH
[04:16] <leo_> for anyone who's interested :)


[05:54] <tomreyn> !bug | CryptoSiD
[05:55] <tomreyn> the package would be e2fsprogs
[15:36] <tomreyn> CryptoSiD: did you note what i wrote above?
[19:57] <CryptoSiD> tomreyn yep sorry, busy at work this week end
[19:57] <CryptoSiD> I'll report the bug monday
[20:43] <tomreyn> no worries, just do it when you have time. it's a dev release after all.
[20:48] <CryptoSiD> Yeah I shouldn't be on this with my limited skills :) (I'm addicted to updates)
[21:47] <CryptoSiD> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/e2fsprogs/+bug/1830500
[21:47] <CryptoSiD> done
[21:59] <tomreyn> looks good to me.
[22:04] <CryptoSiD> i just ran the e2scrub_all and im received the same 2 emails.
[22:04] <CryptoSiD> going to add that information
[22:06] <tomreyn> CryptoSiD: so you always run it manually?
[22:07] <tomreyn> or does it normally run through a systemd timer which was installed by the system? or did you set it up manually?
[22:07] <CryptoSiD> nope, the first emails i received are most likely related to a cronjob
[22:07] <CryptoSiD> or systemd IDK
[22:08] <CryptoSiD> It's all by default, it's a fresh install. I just tried to run "/usr/sbin/e2scrub_all" manually to see the result
[22:19] <tomreyn> ok, so the bug report is good to have


[12:43] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: Linux Mint 19 Beta Is Coming Next Week @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=131878 (by Joey Sneddon)
[23:56] <Wild_Man> krytarik, are you ready for the email to go out or has it been sent? I just got home is has been a long day, I am exhausted
[23:58] <krytarik> Hi Wild_Man.  GDoc is ready, looked last a short while ago.  And no, call hasn't been sent yet, of course.
[23:59] <Wild_Man> okay, I looked briefly at the Gdoc about two hours ago so I wanted to make sure I will send it out now


[16:15] <eguest309> hello guys.good morning,afternoon etc. needed some  help on some issues.
[16:15] <eguest309> i was wondering if upstart is supported by redheart 5.6
[16:18] <eguest309> hello
[17:09] <eguest309> hello