[12:00] <michaeld> yes
[12:00] <michaeld> :)
[12:00] <adjacent> ugo_: should work
[12:00] <adjacent> or http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:DKuOVPSDNskJ:https://lists.openafs.org/pipermail/openafs-info/2003-May/009119.html&hl=en&client=firefox
[12:00] <NoUse> michaeld knowing that you wouldn't be able to burn it?
[12:00] <michaeld> no
[12:00] <adjacent> for google mirror
[12:01] <PhoenixP3K> Hi everyone! Just a quick question
[12:01] <NoUse> michaeld did you see the "how to use apt locally" heading on the link I sent you?
[12:01] <michaeld> what link?
[12:01] <Hello_World> Hi
[12:01] <michaeld> that debian doc one?
[12:01] <NoUse> michaeld yes
[12:02] <Hello_World> can somebody help me with setting up my 5.1 Sound?
[12:02] <alek> in the new breezy preview, gnome 2 doesn't have the "open terminal" in the right click menu...is there a reason for this?
[12:02] <Seveas> !tell Hello_World about sound
[12:02] <PhoenixP3K> I'm making a partition for ubuntu
[12:02] <Seveas> alek, it's been moved to a plugin (nautilus-open-terminal)
[12:02] <ugo_> man alek u voiced my gripe clean there
[12:02] <alek> Seveas: great thanks.
[12:02] <nalioth> alek: there is a pkg to fix that (cant remember the name of it, tho)
[12:02] <Hello_World> ty
[12:02] <NoUse> michaeld also, try apt-cdrom again with the -m option
[12:02] <michaeld> doesnt work, nouse
[12:03] <NoUse> michaeld saying "doesn't work" helps me not at all with troubleshooting
[12:03] <trigger_ph> Does anyone know of an irc plugin for emacs?
[12:03] <Twiggy> I got an issue with my alsamixer settings randomly resetting themselves, is there some way to lock my settings so that doesn't happen?
[12:03] <Seveas> trigger_ph, erc
[12:03] <trigger_ph> @Seveas thanks! will look that up
[12:04] <PhoenixP3K> I have a 250 GB HDD NTFS with Windows XP, the new partition I make, has it to be Linux Ext2 or Linux Ext3 ?
[12:04] <Hello_World> well, the problem is, my sound works, but only the two front channely
[12:04] <Hello_World> -y+s
[12:04] <ilpavox> seveas: which package are you referring to?
[12:04] <erUSUL> trigger_ph:  apt-cache search emacs irc
[12:04] <Seveas> ilpavox, sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[12:04] <Earthen> I have a question when you install danguardian does it creat a user under the same name is that normal
[12:05] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, it can be ext2, ext3, reiserfs, fat32, or a few others :P but ext3 is probably the best option (it's also the default that ubuntu will install as)
[12:05] <Hello_World> ...
[12:05] <erUSUL> Earthen: yes
[12:05] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, you will also need to create a swap partition
[12:05] <Hello_World> ext3 is sooo sloooowwwww....
[12:05] <Earthen> thank you
[12:05] <test34> is the WMV or ASF codec available in ubuntu? I did't see libwin32..
[12:05] <Seveas> Hello_World, you need to use an alsa plugin for that
[12:05] <test34> (in synaptic..)
[12:05] <Seveas> that wiki page should tell how
[12:05] <PhoenixP3K> funkyHat Can't I let ubuntu installer make it?
[12:05] <ilpavox> seveas: got it
[12:05] <evian> hey Agrajag, I found out how to change Nautilus so it doesn't change windows (size) on you
[12:05] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, yes :)
[12:05] <nalioth> test34: w32codecs
[12:06] <Hello_World> What Plugin?
[12:06] <Seveas> test34, it is not, you can download it from mplayerhq.hu
[12:06] <Earthen> I am getting alot of packets going to squid and dansguardian and i can't stop it
[12:06] <erUSUL> Hello_World: maybe but it has the only fsck you can trust
[12:06] <trigger_ph> @erUSUL unfortunately, i can't do apt atm. i broke my gdm by re-enabling an onboard video interface. i'm on a windoze machine and the x-chat client for windoze is evaluation stuff.
[12:06] <michaeld> ok
[12:06] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, but it won't if you choose the manual partition editor
[12:06] <PhoenixP3K> funkyHat, so I make an ext3 the size I choose then I can start installing?
[12:06] <michaeld> my grandma got some cdrs NoUse
[12:06] <michaeld> :D
[12:06] <evian> well really how to make it use "browse" mode by default
[12:06] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, are you planning to use up the rest of the space on your hard disk?
[12:06] <Agrajag> evian: what, why would I care?
[12:07] <test34> ok thanks nalioth and Seveas
[12:07] <PhoenixP3K> funkyHat, the rest will be for Windows XP (games)
[12:07] <erUSUL> evian: with Gconf editor
[12:07] <Agrajag> And why did you message me about that before?
[12:07] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, is that space already partitioned?
[12:07] <NoUse> michaeld ok
[12:07] <evian> Agrajag: I thought you were saying yesterday you found Nautilis unusuable
[12:07] <Agrajag> no...
[12:07] <evian> unusable
[12:07] <Agrajag> I don't believe I spoke in here yesterday
[12:07] <evian> oh sorry, I guess that was someone else
[12:07] <Agrajag> I find spatial mode to be quite useable, I like it
[12:07] <Agrajag> ok
[12:08] <PhoenixP3K> funkyHat, no it's just Windows XP on it has we speak
[12:08] <shavingcream> hi
[12:08] <shavingcream> whats matrix reasoning?
[12:08] <PhoenixP3K> funkyHat, my partition program seems to be able to make a LinuxSwap partition as well
[12:09] <chrisbudden14> where can i get the file libmp3lame.so from?
[12:09] <bob2> packages.ubuntu.com
[12:09] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, the way i would advise you to proceed is to create partitions for everything else you are going to install, and leave empty space for ubuntu
[12:10] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, then install ubuntu using the 'automatically partition free space' option
[12:10] <chrisbudden14> was the packages.ubuntu.com to me?
[12:10] <erUSUL> chrisbudden14: apt-cache search lame | grep lame
[12:10] <chrisbudden14> sure
[12:10] <chrisbudden14> thanks
[12:10] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, one thing to note is that ubuntu includes a boot loader that will allow you to choose between your installed operating systems, while windows does not
[12:11] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, so i would advise you to install your windows instances first, and then ubuntu
[12:11] <Lie-Algebra> hi, what software can I use under gnome to burn cds?
[12:11] <nalioth> Lie-Algebra: k3b, gnomebaker or graveman
[12:12] <PhoenixP3K> funkyHat, well Windows is already there, so I just need to make a Linux Ext3 partition right?
[12:12] <Hello_World> Seveas, what plugin do i need for 6 Channel Sound
[12:12] <Quinthius> Lie-Algebra: or nautilus
[12:12] <Quinthius> Lie-Algebra: or serpentine, for audio
[12:12] <erUSUL> Lie-Algebra: gnomebaker, coaster orgraveman
[12:12] <erUSUL> Lie-Algebra: gnomebaker, coaster or graveman
[12:12] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, so windows is already installed? i thought you meant you were going to be installing a second instance of windows
[12:13] <FruityLoop> hallo
[12:13] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, you didn't answer my question, are you going to be creating any other partitions in the free space that is currently there, or are you going to use all of the unpartitioned space for linux?
[12:13] <FruityLoop> is jemand da?
[12:13] <Lie-Algebra> thanks ;)
[12:13] <PhoenixP3K> funkyHat, oh! I'll use part of the free space to ma a partition
[12:13] <PhoenixP3K> funkyHat, something like 25 GB
[12:14] <funkyHat> ok, create that partition now
[12:14] <PhoenixP3K> and then?
[12:14] <funkyHat> and then use the option i mentioned in the ubuntu installer
[12:14] <funkyHat> automatically partition free space
[12:14] <baikonur> hi
[12:14] <PhoenixP3K> funkyHat, "automatically partition free space" right?
[12:15] <funkyHat> you don't even have to bother formatting the partition you are creating now, just creat the partition
[12:15] <funkyHat> yes
[12:15] <baikonur> I would like to know, how to do the following (LILO) with grub: "other=/dev/hdb1 \  label=Win98 \ map-drive = 0x80 \ to = 0x81 \  map-drive = 0x81 \ to = 0x80"?
[12:15] <PhoenixP3K> thankS!! funkyHat
[12:15] <topyli> PhoenixP3K: funkyHat is right. go ahead
[12:15] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, one thing to note (you may know this already) is that linux can't safely write to ntfs
[12:15] <funkyHat> so the other partition you make, you may want to format as fat32
[12:15] <test34> you can't drag a window from one workspace to another ?
[12:15] <G|Patrick> gn8
[12:15] <funkyHat> so that you can swap files between windows and linux
[12:16] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, you get my PM?
[12:16] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, one last thing!
[12:16] <funkyHat> oh actually, you're not using the manual partition editor in the installer, never mind ;)
[12:16] <topyli> hah
[12:16] <PhoenixP3K> funkyHat, so I make a fat32 partition. Thanks :D
[12:17] <mkyb14> anyone else have a problem with the install failing when it got to like 60% with some log crap
[12:17] <funkyHat> yes, both windows and linux can read and write fat32, so it's a good extra partition to have
[12:17] <PhoenixP3K> Thanks you all, see you guys when Ubuntu is installed ;)
[12:17] <funkyHat> :)
[12:18] <trigger_ph> @mkyb14 do u get a media read error?
[12:18] <mkyb14> no it gives this in...something log fail i'm gonna reinstall it right now and type the error in a sec
[12:18] <topyli> test34: not in gnome, as long as you're using the default metacity as a window manager. you can do through the dektop selector applet though
[12:18] <trigger_ph> ok
[12:19] <baikonur> wow this is easy to do with GRUB: map (hda), (hdb) map (hdb), (hda)
[12:19] <mkyb14> hmm it formats really quick. nice
[12:20] <LittleDan> I checked the md5sum and it was right, but it still doesn't recognize itself as ubuntu for some reason
[12:20] <erUSUL> topyli: i have dragged in the pager a window to another wokspace right now
[12:21] <mkyb14> ok it's installing the base system in a min i'll type the error
[12:21] <topyli> erUSUL: it works that way. it's just that metacity doesn't have sensitive desktop borders like classic X window managers do
[12:22] <topyli> like fvwm and enlightenment
[12:22] <cr4sh> hey can anyone help me with Rhymybox Music Player i have installed all the needed codecs and it was working before but now it gives me this error!!!
[12:22] <erUSUL> baikonur: try somthing with the hide command
[12:22] <tommy_h> hmmm, I cannot make any global variables...looks like they get local only
[12:22] <cr4sh> This is the ERROR: Got error opening "file:///media/win_d/Music/Rap%20%26%20Rnb%20Albums/OLD%20MIXE's/07-canibus-indisible-rfl.mp3": Could not start pipeline playing
[12:22] <nick01> hi; if I install ubuntu is there somebody that can help me configure lirc ? I wanna use that feature in the kde control center to control apps with my tv tuner remote
[12:22] <erUSUL> baikonur: in the stanza of win98 in menu.lst
[12:22] <nakata> cr4sh, your music sucks too much
[12:23] <nakata> try greenday
[12:23] <nick01> I meant any way possible
[12:23] <StyXman> I'm getting these when updating via apt:
[12:23] <StyXman> 19:14 [freenode]  -!-    #grulic perrito666 G+  0<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[Horacio Francisco Sebastian del
[12:23] <nakata> ubuntu is fickle that way.
[12:23] <StyXman>                                 sagrado corazon de]
[12:23] <StyXman> arm...
[12:23] <nick01> not kde- that's for kubuntu
[12:23] <nick01> I just wanna use lirc
[12:23] <StyXman> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:23] <korbinus> (quit
[12:23] <nick01> so I'll install either ubuntu or kubuntu- wheteer works
[12:23] <cr4sh> nakata: thanks. for ur opinion.. can you help
[12:23] <nick01> anyone good with lirc ?
[12:23] <nakata> sure
[12:24] <nakata> your gstreamer doesn't have a valid audio output plugin selected
[12:24] <nakata> check the faq about how to set that up
[12:24] <zblach> hi
[12:24] <nakata> i'm pretty sure it's in Getting Started too
[12:24] <erUSUL> cr4sh: maybe the extrange caracters in the path do not help much
[12:24] <zblach> how do i run a .jar file?
[12:24] <ryanthiessen> anyone else having a problem with no /dev/input/mice on the latest breezy?
[12:24] <nakata> zblach, unzip
[12:24] <zblach> nakata, its an executable jar
[12:25] <nakata> ryanthiessen, no problems here
[12:25] <nick01> java -jar xxxx.jar
[12:25] <nakata> ^
[12:25] <zblach> thanks nick01
[12:25] <ryanthiessen> nakata: thx
[12:25] <nakata> depending on what you're using anyway
[12:25] <nick01> np
[12:25] <nakata> i think that's the blackdown way
[12:25] <topyli> zblach: java -jar filename.jar
[12:25] <cr4sh> erUSUl: any suggestions
[12:26] <mkyb14> AHHHOK hers' the error 'unable to install initrd-tools,  an error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target sustem.  Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for details'
[12:26] <alek> so i installed libnautilus-open-terminal and i know nothing of nautlus configs, is it possible to move the Open Terminal to the top of the menu?
[12:26] <nick01> no lirc expert here ? :|
[12:26] <mkyb14> google it
[12:26] <erUSUL> try what nakata says run gstreamer-properties
[12:26] <nakata> nick01, never got it working
[12:26] <nick01> :(
[12:26] <topyli> nick01: happens to mr
[12:27] <nick01> topyli: happens what ?
[12:27] <erUSUL> and select correct output (alsa or esd)
[12:27] <topyli> e everytime i have a problem :)
[12:27] <mkyb14> 	AHHHOK hers' the error 'unable to install initrd-tools, an error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target sustem. Check/target/var/log/ bootstrap.log for details'
[12:27] <trigger_ph> @mkyb14 and it stops there? no read activity from the CD?
[12:27] <erUSUL> nick01: not myself sorry :(
[12:27] <mkyb14> ? any takers
[12:27] <zblach> anyone here install the PRC into NWN?
[12:27] <nick01> topyli: so u're not a lirc expert ? :/
[12:28] <nick01> erUSUL: k
[12:28] <mkyb14> no it lets me continue, but then immediatly says installation step failed
[12:28] <topyli> nick01: no, never got any ir stuff to work myself :(
[12:28] <mkyb14> then boots me back to the beginning to install the base system or copy remaining packages
[12:28] <erUSUL> mkyb14: have you checked /var/log/bootstrap.log as it says
[12:28] <nick01> k tks
[12:29] <mkyb14> i can't, ti's still on the setup
[12:29] <mkyb14> how'm i supposed to access that when it's not fulling installed
[12:29] <trigger_ph> @mkyb14 the last time i got that kind of error, my CDROM drive wasn't capable of reading the installer CD, which was burned at a higher speed
[12:30] <erUSUL> mkyb14: Crt Alt Fn to change to another virtual terminal an see the file
[12:30] <ompaul> mkyb14, there is one thing you can do, choose server install  by typing server at the prompt at the start of the install - when that is done do this login and type this >>> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop <<< that works in some cases like yours
[12:30] <trigger_ph> brb
[12:30] <mkyb14> fn?
[12:30] <erUSUL> mkyb14: F2 for example or F3
[12:31] <mkyb14> i'm gonna let it finish installing the remaining packages and see if that works
[12:31] <mkyb14> i burned it on to a cd-rw
[12:33] <macroexp> does anyone here run mythtv? I've got it installed, and it works, but it's missing mythjobqueue
[12:33] <macroexp> so i'm wondering if i should try different packages
[12:35] <mkyb14> eh i'll try my other cd-rom drive before going backwards
[12:35] <baikonur> erUSUL: wow this is easy to do with GRUB: map (hda), (hdb) map (hdb), (hda)
[12:35] <mkyb14> i really want this to work after reading about ubuntu lastnight
[12:35] <ugo> could someone tell me what the developer channel is
[12:36] <ugo> i have a few issues id like to discuss with the team....thanks
[12:36] <erUSUL> baikonur: nice to know ;)
[12:36] <vader1102> ugo, no idea
[12:38] <oscarh> hi... i am having problem with native charecters in the console and also in applications such as vim
[12:38] <oscarh> i use a UTF-8 locale
[12:38] <oscarh> and afaik i did not have this problem fram the begining
[12:38] <oscarh> can someone just point me in a direction?
[12:40] <sylvain> salut
[12:40] <vladuz976> how do you upgrade from warty to hoary with aptitude
[12:41] <funkyHat> vladuz976, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:41] <nalioth> vladuz976: you modify your /etc/apt/sources.list to change each 'warty' to 'hoary', then dist-upgrade
[12:41] <funkyHat> remove (or comment out) the CD repository (top line)
[12:41] <vladuz976> nalioth, apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:41] <funkyHat> and replace every 'warty' to 'hoary'
[12:42] <funkyHat> *with
[12:42] <nalioth> vladuz976: after you change "warty" for "hoary"
[12:42] <funkyHat> nalioth, apt-get update?
[12:42] <vladuz976> nalioth, ok change that then "apt-get update" then "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[12:43] <erUSUL> vladuz976: sed -e 's/warty/hoary' -i /etc/apt/sources.list :D
[12:43] <nalioth> vladuz976: funkyHat brings up "apt-get update" after modifying your sources.list
[12:43] <vladuz976> erUSUL, what is that
[12:43] <ifyour555im666> hello
[12:43] <Gnonthgol> hi
[12:43] <funkyHat> hi
[12:43] <erUSUL> a way to change every warty to hoary in sources.list you can edit the file by hand too
[12:44] <vladuz976> erUSUL, what does sed do?
[12:44] <ifyour555im666> can some on help me im new to linux and would appreciate any help
[12:44] <erUSUL> vladuz976: sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list :D
[12:44] <funkyHat> ifyour555im666, just tell us what your problem is :)
[12:45] <ifyour555im666> I installed ubuntu yester day on my laptop and cant get my modem to auto detect
[12:45] <erUSUL> sed is an no interactive editor
[12:45] <ilpavox> seveas: installed the sun j2re package and the plugin/jvm is still crashing whenever i load a an applet in firefox.  any ideas?
[12:46] <bytefoo> hey umm...are there really 70 updates :X
[12:46] <vader1102> there was 55 yesterday
[12:47] <bytefoo> alright, mine shows 70
[12:47] <bytefoo> i was freaked out though, since that'a alot :X
[12:47] <vader1102> nawwwwwwwww
[12:47] <oscarh> noone who can point me in any direction regarding native characters not working in console?
[12:47] <nalioth> bytefoo: breezy will have regular heavy updates
[12:47] <bytefoo> no shit
[12:47] <bytefoo> that's because it will be new :/
[12:48] <funkyHat> lol
[12:48] <oscarh> the console shows two characters, like utf-8 decoded with latin1
[12:48] <funkyHat> XD my APT has Super Cow Powers
[12:48] <bytefoo> heh
[12:48] <funkyHat> well, my server's apt does anywas...
[12:48] <funkyHat> i don't know about this machine's one
[12:48] <bytefoo> i think i will color my apt :X
[12:48] <bytefoo> oh i run archlinux for servers :/
[12:49] <funkyHat> i run debian
[12:49] <bytefoo> cool
[12:49] <Gnonthgol> oscarh: workes for me.
[12:49] <bytefoo> can we be friends
[12:49] <bytefoo> :)
[12:49] <bytefoo> :/
[12:49] <bytefoo> :(
[12:49] <funkyHat> :)
[12:49] <oscarh> Gnonthgol, oh well, not for me
[12:49] <oscarh> Gnonthgol, not in the console or in applications like vim
[12:49] <funkyHat> yes
[12:49] <oscarh> Gnonthgol, here it does
[12:50] <ifyour555im666> can anyone tell me why my smart links modem wont auto detect
[12:50] <funkyHat> hahar. ubuntu's apt doesn't have super cow powers
[12:50] <funkyHat> it's a good job i have a server with debian on it
[12:50] <funkyHat> or i wouldn't have them
[12:50] <roham_> is it possible to upgrade to 5.10 without new installation?
[12:50] <funkyHat> yes
[12:50] <erUSUL> oscarh: it is in gnome-terminal
[12:50] <funkyHat> i did it today
[12:50] <erUSUL> ?
[12:50] <funkyHat> roham_, ^
[12:50] <vader1102> ifyour555im666, have you tried the wiki?
[12:51] <oscarh> erUSUL, in gnome-terminal it's ok
[12:51] <Gnonthgol> oscarh: maby it dont work then, just tested it
[12:51] <funkyHat> roham_, i tested out the live CD of the latest colony release first though ;), that might be a good idea
[12:51] <vader1102> I have had bad luck with some modems
[12:51] <roham_> funkyhat: how and is it more stable now? cause it is preview rel.
[12:51] <ifyour555im666> Ive tried forms not wiki
[12:51] <funkyHat> it's nearly perfect here, just a couple of things that are only broken because i've changed them before
[12:51] <Gnonthgol> erUSUL: I am using tty2 and cant get them to work
[12:52] <vader1102> Does someone have the URL for the wiki and modems?
[12:52] <pluggo> I'm running ubuntu on ppc on an eMac... the sounds are very quiet (and I've been through all the parts of the mixer). Any ideas?
[12:52] <oscarh> erUSUL, it does not work if i shut down X or hit ctrl + alt + f4 or something
[12:52] <roham_> funkyhat: is it many changes? and is the gnome better? heh
[12:52] <funkyHat> i haven't noticed anything different about gnome yet :P
[12:53] <roham_> funkyhat ok ... but u downloaded it and upgraded it ? cause i think you can use the "auto-updater"
[12:53] <pluggo> No?
[12:54] <funkyHat> roham_, no i downloaded the live CD just to test it, then when i was sure it worked (including the nVidia drivers) i took the CD out and rebooted, edited my sources.list and did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:54] <pluggo> The sounds are really loud when they first start, but soon (less than a second) after they become quiet.
[12:54] <funkyHat> heh, after sudo apt-get update
[12:54] <roham_> funkyhat... ok but why shouldnt it work?
[12:54] <funkyHat> no reason, i'm just paranoid ;)
[12:55] <kbob717> i need a reminder on how to get macromedia shockwave player.
[12:55] <Gnonthgol> Anyone know how to use irssi?
[12:55] <kbob717> and a typing tutor
[12:55] <robotgeek> Gnonthgol: http://irssi.org/help
[12:55] <kbob717> and kubuntu
[12:55] <funkyHat> i get some odd errors on boot actually, but i don't know how to view some kind of boot log so i can pastebin the error, or even look at it
[12:55] <roham_> funkyhat... hehe ok.. where can I find what I should do with the sources file?
[12:55] <roham_> how many people in here are using 5.10?
[12:56] <funkyHat> roham_, just comment out the CD line, and change 'hoary' for 'breezy' everywhere it appears
[12:56] <Gnonthgol> robotgeek: But I got no gui
[12:57] <funkyHat> Gnonthgol, use a text based browser then :P
[12:57] <bytefoo> someone has stolen my pie :|
[12:57] <robotgeek> Gnonthgol: elinks / lynx works too
[12:57] <funkyHat> bytefoo, it was me
[12:57] <bytefoo> bastard
[12:57] <funkyHat> XD
[12:57] <bytefoo> ;[
[12:58] <robotgeek> !tell me about language
[12:58] <nalioth> bytefoo: language please
[12:58] <erUSUL> !tell me about language
[12:58] <funkyHat> no entry guys ;)
[12:58] <robotgeek> erUSUL: :)
[12:58] <bytefoo> :)
[12:58] <funkyHat> oh and...
[12:58] <erUSUL> XD
[12:59] <funkyHat> /msg ubotu language
[12:59] <funkyHat> ;)
[12:59] <bytefoo> language eh
[12:59] <funkyHat> ;)
[12:59] <Gnonthgol> robotgeek: I know but cause of a charter error Lynx displays things wrong
[12:59] <war-totem> ive installed eterm in fluxbox but typing eterm in the console doesnt run it
[12:59] <Gnonthgol> ! language
[12:59] <ubotu> Gnonthgol: What?
[12:59] <war-totem> and i cant find it in any of the menus
[12:59] <robotgeek> Gnonthgol: what u using right now?
[12:59] <war-totem> anyone know whats up?
[12:59] <steve___> when i resume from hibernation i get "unable to find volume group hda1"
[01:00] <steve___> using breezy badger PR3
[01:00] <Gnonthgol> robotgeek: I am using irssi on a PC without gui
[01:00] <robotgeek> Gnonthgol: then what do u need to find out about irssi?
[01:00] <erUSUL> war-totem: run 'which eterm'
[01:00] <war-totem> enlightenment term erUSUL
[01:01] <war-totem> i downloaded them in synaptic
[01:01] <robotgeek> Gnonthgol: most info is present in /usr/share/doc/irssi-text , if you installed the doc packages
[01:01] <Gnonthgol> robotgeek: ok
[01:01] <erUSUL> run the comand "which eterm" to see where the system thinks it is installed ;)
[01:02] <war-totem> oh
[01:02] <war-totem> hehe
[01:02] <war-totem> one sec
[01:02] <freedomjazzdance> is there a way to watch someone on a ssh session?
[01:02] <thierry> freedomjazzdance : maybe vlc, I'm not sure
[01:02] <bytefoo> mitm attack :|
[01:02] <war-totem> which eterm doesnt do anything
[01:02] <pluggo> Install VNC on the computer that they're using to connect  :)
[01:03] <erUSUL> war-totem: are you sure that you installed eterm? if it's installed it should say something like /usr/bin/eterm
[01:03] <thierry> yeah VNC sorry
[01:03] <war-totem> positive
[01:03] <war-totem> synaptic installed it and reinstalled it
[01:04] <freedomjazzdance> thierry,  do you mean vnc?
[01:04] <freedomjazzdance> thierry, ahh thanks
[01:05] <freedomjazzdance> how do you see whos logged on your system?
[01:05] <funkyHat> freedomjazzdance, users
[01:05] <freedomjazzdance> and is there a log of what commands they're running
[01:05] <pluggo> freedom: The "w" command
[01:05] <peanut> #kubuntu
[01:07] <erUSUL> war-totem: well try "updatedb && locate eterm"
[01:07] <abbot45> ok.  im completly new to networking.  all im trying to do right now is set up a static IP so i can forward ports.  ive been leeching for the last couple weeks but now ive got a WRT54G.  how can i tell if im actually getting the connection from my router?
[01:08] <freedomjazzdance> what about what they've done from the prompt, is that stored somewhere?
[01:08] <war-totem> ill try it
[01:08] <difeta> where can i find packages for network manager?
[01:08] <robotgeek> difeta: are on breezy?
[01:08] <war-totem> if not, whats another way to set a background in fluxbox?
[01:09] <pluggo> abbot45: run "nc -l -p portnumber" and try connecting from a computer on the outside
[01:09] <shinu> how can i unzip many files at once?
[01:09] <shinu> unzip * doesnt really work
[01:09] <freedomjazzdance> abbot45,  what are you trying to do?
[01:09] <ZeroCarontE> i just recieved the shipped ubuntu cds, but when i try to install it, i have that same problem (but the using_dma:0 thing didnt helped): http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2640
[01:09] <difeta> robotgeek, is it available in breezy? I'm still waiting for the breezy stable release
[01:09] <abbot45> freedomjazzdance, set up my router that i just got.
[01:09] <ZeroCarontE> any other suggestion?
[01:09] <freedomjazzdance> abbot45,  setting up a wireless router right>
[01:09] <abbot45> freedomjazzdance, yup
[01:09] <robotgeek> difeta: not yet, but should be hitting the repos soon
[01:10] <freedomjazzdance> abbot45, do you need to set it up on a windows computer first?
[01:10] <freedomjazzdance> abbot45, what kind of router is it?
[01:10] <pluggo> abbot45: Did you tell the port to forward in the web interface yet?
[01:10] <robotgeek> difeta: you might just want to compile from cvs
[01:10] <abbot45> freedomjazzdance, but the wifi light is not flashing on the router, so i'm wondering if im still grabbing someone elses connection in a different apt.
[01:11] <abbot45> its a WRT56G
[01:11] <war-totem> erUSUL, how long is that command supposed to take?
[01:11] <CompBrain> Hello: Trying to install Ubuntu Breezy PR on an AMD 64 X2 4200+, 2GB ram, and its hanging at 'Storing Language (96%)'
[01:11] <funkyHat> where is the boot up log stored? i need to pastebin some of it and ask how to fix it :P
[01:11] <freedomjazzdance> abbot45, ok well type iwconfig to see what network you are connected to
[01:11] <abbot45> pluggo, i put <IP_ADDRESS> in my browser like it says on portforward.com but it times out.
[01:11] <CompBrain> I tried both the net installer, and the full iso
[01:11] <erUSUL> war-totem: it depends on the size of the filesystem and the number of files
[01:12] <war-totem> erUSUL, never mind it finished nad it found a lot of stuff with eterm
[01:12] <CompBrain> and both fail at the same spot, any suggestions?
[01:12] <war-totem> whats the next step
[01:12] <erUSUL> war-totem: locate eterm | grep bin ?
[01:12] <abbot45> it says Nickname:"Prism I".  thats not mine.
[01:12] <nicholas> well, because I am bold I installed breezy PR
[01:13] <nicholas> all is well...
[01:13] <nicholas> for now
[01:13] <nicholas> L)
[01:13] <abbot45> how do i make it grab my router?
[01:13] <pluggo> abbot45: You're probably connected to your neighbor, then. Do you have a box with a wired ethernet connect?
[01:13] <freedomjazzdance> abbot45, try system>admin>networking
[01:13] <neipalow> hi
[01:13] <abbot45> pluggo, i don't have a wired etho card in my box.
[01:14] <war-totem> it seems to be in /usr/bin
[01:14] <SymGeosis> abbot45, what is your problem?
[01:14] <war-totem> sorry, usr/share
[01:14] <abbot45> SymGeosis, im trying to set up my wireless router, but it keeps grabbing the neighbors connection.
[01:14] <SymGeosis> abbot45, I think it may be similiar to a problem I had, though I just walked in on this convo.
[01:14] <erUSUL> war-totem: /usr/bin/eterm ?
[01:14] <neipalow> i have a cuestion... exist a emulator of dos fot linux ubuntu??
[01:14] <Zodiac> Hello all
[01:14] <Zodiac> question for ya...
[01:14] <abbot45> freedomjazzdance, im in that, but it doesnt like list the available connections.
[01:15] <Zodiac> Is the Gstreamer thats included in Breezy better equiped to play DVDs?
[01:15] <SymGeosis> Zodiac, I've had the same luck with DVDs as I had on Hoary.
[01:15] <Zodiac> So Totem Xine should be installed is what your saying?
[01:16] <freedomjazzdance> abbot45, in properties of the wireless device there should be a pulldown menu for essid
[01:16] <abbot45> iwconfig also says my link quality is 46/92, but it should be much better than that.
[01:16] <SymGeosis> Zodiac, I'd recommend it, yes.
[01:16] <pluggo> abbot45: You can do a factory reset on those boxes by turning power off then powering it up with the reset button held in and holding it for 20 seconds. After that you should be able to connect over wifi.
[01:16] <Zodiac> poop
[01:16] <Zodiac> ok
[01:16] <abbot45> freedomjazzdance, it just says "any" and doesnt give any other options.
[01:16] <pluggo> What essid are you trying?
[01:16] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: hi
[01:16] <war-totem> no
[01:16] <cevizoglu> robotgeek, hi
[01:17] <erUSUL> war-totem: run "sudo apt-get install eterm" i think that it is not installed
[01:17] <difeta> how stable is the preview release of breezy? I'd like to upgrade
[01:17] <war-totem> all i seem to be seeing is /usr/share/doc/eterm
[01:17] <cevizoglu> robotgeek, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2170
[01:17] <abbot45> pluggo, are you talking "box" as in computer or router.  ive got wired outs on my router, but not wired ins on my computer.  i took my ethernet card out to make room for other things.  i don't even think i have an extra one here.
[01:17] <zorba64> difeta: seems to be fine...X is a little laggy
[01:17] <robotgeek> war-totem: try dpkg -L eterm
[01:18] <freedomjazzdance> abbot45, try iwlist scan
[01:18] <war-totem> ah
[01:18] <war-totem> i got it
[01:18] <war-totem> thanks for your help guys
[01:18] <mlopes> hi. The volume control standing on the top bar only controls gnome sounds.. how can I set it up to control the master sound? sounds, etc..
[01:18] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: nope, will not work!! it's broadcom
[01:19] <abbot45> freedomjazzdance, "eth0      Failed to read scan data : Operation not supported"
[01:19] <cevizoglu> robotgeek, that's odd the model number matches yours.. those buggers
[01:19] <linner> hey ya'll... how's it hangin'?
[01:19] <mlopes> totem has independent volume control.. but I want to make it the same
[01:19] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: i know, did the FCC iD match?
[01:19] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: guess I will get it from ebay, several sellers posted the fcc id there which I don't think can be mistaken for another model
[01:19] <freedomjazzdance> abbot45,  is eth0 your wireless?
[01:19] <abbot45> damnit.  ive got a friend who's a linux network admin but he isn't around.
[01:19] <abbot45> freedomjazzdance, i believe so.
[01:19] <linner> I'm curious has anyone successfully sync'd to Evolution with their palm based PDA?
[01:20] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: :)
[01:20] <ttyS0> my isp uses pap-authentication and has callback function aswell. i've tried to dial its pool but after authentication it didn't want to disconnect & wait for call and just started pppd (i'm talking about kppp, of course). any advices?
[01:20] <cevizoglu> robotgeek, no, they don't put it on the outside of the box
[01:20] <pluggo> abbot45: I meant computer, something you could connect directly to the router.
[01:20] <linner> It seems I can only sync my contacts and nothing else.
[01:20] <linner> :(
[01:20] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: where did u get it from...just tell them it doesn't work, and they shud give u your $$ back
[01:20] <abbot45> pluggo, no.  i dont have a wired ethernet card in my computer.  just the wireless.
[01:20] <difeta> how do i get gamin to start upon boot?
[01:20] <freedomjazzdance> abbot45, when you do iwconfig is this the device it shows?
[01:20] <lilricky> anyone running breezy on AMD64 and has gotten their ATI card running 3d?
[01:20] <pluggo> I think it's "iwlist scanning" not "iwlist scan"
[01:20] <abbot45> freedomjazzdance, yes.  its using eth0 to connect to my neighbor.
[01:20] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: yeah, I just did.. this is try #2  :P   lol
[01:21] <cevizoglu> robotgeek, I should do better on ebay this time  :)
[01:21] <pluggo> Does your neighbor use the "linksys" essid?
[01:21] <freedomjazzdance> pluggo,  they do the exact same thing
[01:21] <erUSUL> difeta: save your sesion when you log out or shutdown your computer
[01:21] <bushk> iwlist <device> scanning (scan is an abrev that is not always supported)
[01:21] <abbot45> pluggo, does the same thing
[01:21] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: :) try looking up on the wireless cards list too, might be helpful... http://linux-wlan.org
[01:21] <linner> hmmm... any suggestions as what I should use?
[01:21] <pluggo> Ah, when I was first playing with wireless on linux "scanning" was the only one that worked :)
[01:21] <abbot45> pluggo, i dont know what, what would tell me that?
[01:21] <difeta> erUSUL, why would that help? I just rebooted a minute ago.
[01:22] <linner> meaning what software program that will let me sync everything on my palm?
[01:22] <popey> on hoary, I just installed some more memory in my laptop, changed the kernel to -686 from -386 and now the X nvidia module wont load.. any ideas?
[01:22] <pluggo> abbot: iwconfig without arguments should tell you what you're connected to
[01:22] <abbot45> no.  when i do iwconfig it says ESSID:"WLAN"
[01:23] <pluggo> Try "iwconfig interfacename essid linksys" then running "dhclient interfacename" (AFTER logging off! this will break your connection! :) )
[01:23] <linner> I'll take that as a no... or I'm being ignored. :(
[01:23] <erUSUL> difeta: sorry missread gaim :(
[01:23] <linner> aftertaf!  i didn't see you there
[01:23] <difeta> erUSUL, ahh
[01:25] <zorba64> linner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyPalmDeviceSetup?highlight=%28palm%29
[01:25] <linner> thank you zorba64
[01:25] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: I got the fcc id from the seller, it's PY3WG511-F and the same one is on prism54 with card id of PY3WG511-F
[01:25] <linner> let me check it out
[01:25] <SuperQ> oh yea.. I wonder if the Treo650 will work with breezy
[01:25] <cevizoglu> robotgeek, looks like my chances of success are 90%  :D
[01:25] <adamhill> how does one force a hardware detection? (for ethenet devices)
[01:25] <cevizoglu> robotgeek, that would be network card #6 I will try
[01:26] <michelp> hi guys, i'm installing latest ubuntu amd on my new amd 64 laptop.  It came with XP.  Everything went smooth up to when I chose "resize partition automatically" now there is a blank screen and nothing is happening, although I can flip to the other consoles with Alt-F2, etc
[01:26] <pluggo> linner: I've used coldsync before when I had a Clie.
[01:26] <michelp> kinda sounds like it is running something in the background, does resizing take a while?
[01:26] <abbot45> i just tried changing the ESSID from any to linksys.  didn't work.  is that suppost to be the default?
[01:26] <michelp> i can wait all day ;)
[01:27] <linner> pluggo what OS was it?
[01:27] <Hergiswi> brb
[01:27] <linner> zorba64, I get the hotsync utility to see my palm... that's not the problem.
[01:27] <Hello_World> Hi, can somebody help me with my sound card? It supports 6 Channels, but only the 2 front channels actually work :(
[01:28] <linner> zorba64, I went ahead and made the changes the article suggested...
[01:28] <mlopes> come on, doesn't anyone know how to "unify" the volume control? I just want one controller to rule them all :-)
[01:28] <linner> zorba64, I'll let you know in a minute if it helped any.
[01:28] <phoenixp3k> Hi every one, I have a password problem
[01:28] <funkyHat> Hello_World, make sure all the controls are enabled in the volume control program, and make sure that 6 channels is enabled, there may be an option for the number of channels for your soundcard
[01:29] <pluggo> Hopefully I have a password solution, phoenixp3k
[01:29] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, had the same prob last time I installed Ubunty
[01:29] <phoenixp3k> *ubuntu
[01:29] <pluggo> What's the problem?
[01:29] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, both root and my user password do not let me access the updater
[01:29] <Hello_World> funkyHat, Thanks. All Channels are set to the max. Volume. Where can i set the nuber of channels?
[01:30] <Hello_World> *number
[01:30] <funkyHat> Hello_World, click edit, preferences, and tick all the boxes
[01:30] <ben_underscore> hello all
[01:30] <phoenixp3k> /usr/bin/update-manager:
[01:30] <phoenixp3k> Child terminated with 1 status
[01:30] <funkyHat> especially if there's one called 'channel mode'
[01:30] <Hello_World> hm
[01:30] <ben_underscore> i have a problem connecting a ntfs usb drive to my ubuntu -- anyone help?
[01:31] <Hello_World> funkyHat, i don't use GNOME but KDE.
[01:31] <pluggo> phoenix: Are you logged in to it now?
[01:31] <funkyHat> oh right
[01:31] <gnat42> Hello, question on using updating some packages on breezy
[01:31] <Hello_World> however everything seems to be enabled in KMix
[01:31] <D1> anyone know how slow a usb 1.1 scanner would be?
[01:31] <gnat42> anyone know how I can update the relevant alsa packages to their development version
[01:31] <zorba64> ben_underscore: what sort of prob
[01:31] <gnat42> my soundcard
[01:32] <gnat42> is a CMedia CMI8768
[01:32] <ben_underscore> zorba64, it doesn't mount
[01:32] <gnat42> and is detected as CMI8738
[01:32] <funkyHat> ben_underscore, , see what ubotu is about to say:
[01:32] <funkyHat> !ntfs
[01:32] <war-totem> can someone tell me whats the off topic ubuntu channel is?
[01:32] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[01:32] <zorba64> try sudo modprobe ntfs then try mounting it
[01:32] <gnat42> they have patched their snd-cmipci.c in alsa to support it
[01:32] <phoenixp3k> can any one put me in the right direction? I'm trying to access update-manager
[01:32] <MyLeftNut> I ran the synaptic update earlier and now I can't get to log in screen. The Nvidia screen comes up but it just goes to error. I'm currently logged in through KNOPPIX so I can post logs. Tried recovery mode, no success.
[01:32] <nalioth> war-totem: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:33] <war-totem> simple enough
[01:33] <war-totem> thanks
[01:33] <pluggo> phoenixp3k: Are you logged into that machine now?
[01:33] <ben_underscore> zorba64, when i plug it in, it doesn't even show up in device manager
[01:33] <Hello_World> MyLeftNut, we need the error messagt
[01:33] <Hello_World> *message
[01:33] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, yup I'm using the same password I used to log in
[01:33] <MyLeftNut> Hello_World, is that stored in a log file?
[01:33] <Hello_World> i have no ideo
[01:34] <Hello_World> *idea
[01:34] <Hello_World> damn, i can't type :(
[01:34] <xGun> Hey does anyone know a good tv tuner application i can use with my tv wonder pro under ubuntu
[01:34] <pluggo> phoenixp3k: Did you ever set a root password?
[01:34] <johnnybezak> xGun: try xawtv
[01:34] <pluggo> xGun: I've heard good things about mythtv
[01:34] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, yes I did
[01:35] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, I tryed it as well
[01:35] <difeta> how can i login to my work's windows VPN?
[01:35] <xGun> Yea ive read about mythtv but im kinda still a linux noob and i heard that mythtv requires you to compile it yourself and what not.
[01:36] <pluggo> difeta: How do you log in from windows? Is it just an RDP connection or is it an actual VPN
[01:36] <avi> Hello!  I just tried opening up the help menu in OpenOffice.org 1.9.125, and it told me the help system could not be started.  How can I fix this?
[01:36] <zorba64> ben_underscore: paste your output from dmesg
[01:36] <difeta> pluggo, this is an auctual vpn. I need to connect to the vpn from my linux box at home
[01:37] <pluggo> phoenixp3k: Try "su" then "nano /etc/sudoers"
[01:37] <Hytak> Hello... need help setting up ppp. I tried with KPPP, pon and pppd call provider (yes, I modified /etc/ppp/peers/provider and /etc/ppp/chatscripts) but I'll say with KPPP the problem, it's same thing iwht other: KPPP find my modem right, it dial, light open on my modem... at the last stage it stick to "Logging on to network" for about 40 secondes and then... stop everything saying me error 15... any idea?
[01:37] <P8ntKid> How to i reconfigure my internet connections on ubuntu?  But how to i configure my wireless connection?
[01:37] <pluggo> Wait, that'
[01:37] <pluggo> s not going to work :)
[01:37] <avi> P8ntKid: system -> preferences -> Network worked for me.
[01:37] <paco_> hey guys, I'm just curious if it's possible to write to an NTFS partition. In the getting started guide, they only show you how to mount an NTFS drive as read only, I'm wondering if they did this because it's bad to write to an NTFS partition through Linux
[01:37] <pluggo> Try su -c "usermod -G admin yourusername"
[01:38] <neo1> hi im new
[01:38] <xGun> Hi neo1
[01:38] <xGun> I am new also :)
[01:38] <zorba64> xGun: sudo apt-cache search mythtv
[01:38] <Versed`> P8  mine autoinstalled the wifi on installilation.
[01:38] <nalioth> paco_: writing to NTFS from linux is a good way to have an all linux box
[01:38] <xGun> zorba64: Thx mate ill try that
[01:38] <avi> P8ntKid: system -> preferences -> Networking worked for me.
[01:38] <avi> sorry 'bout the typo.
[01:39] <Hytak> Read my problem?
[01:39] <paco_> nalioth: in that it will screw up my NTFS partition?
[01:39] <ben_underscore> zorba64, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2171
[01:39] <avi> P8ntKid: Is your access point set up differently?  Like with WEP?
[01:39] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, messed up the command a bit
[01:39] <P8ntKid> avi: Im not sure.
[01:39] <nalioth> paco_: it can erase your NTFS partition
[01:39] <MyLeftNut> paco_, NTFS in linux s bad news. Stay away from it.
[01:39] <P8ntKid> Its built in though
[01:40] <avi> What is built in, P8ntKid?
[01:40] <paco_> really? That's kind of bad for me, I'm sorry to hear that... You've ruined my day, thanks.
[01:40] <nalioth> paco_: you can read from your NTFS all you like
[01:40] <nalioth> paco_: if you need windows/linux data sharing, i'd advise fat32
[01:40] <bimberi> paco_: a workaround is to create a FAT32 partition, both systems can write to that
[01:41] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, I put my password or the admin/root psswd?
[01:41] <paco_> yea, I've noticed. That bites, all my partitions are ntfs... Now to figure out how to transfer all my linux stuff onto my ntfs drive.
[01:41] <MyLeftNut> I ran the synaptic update earlier and now I can't get to log in screen. The Nvidia screen comes up but it just goes to error. I'm currently logged in through KNOPPIX so I can post logs. Tried recovery mode, no success.
[01:41] <paco_> is there a reliable way to make windows read my linux partition?
[01:41] <avi> paco_: I'm in the process of configuring a dual-boot (w/ WinXP & Ubuntu)... I created a FAT32 partition, moved docs over to it, and can work just fine with them from Ubuntu.
[01:41] <neo1> why does my player not playing mp3???
[01:41] <zorba64> ben_underscore: unplug &  plug the hard drive back in, run sudo dmesg and past the last 20 lines
[01:41] <ben_underscore> zorba64, ok
[01:41] <xGun> Yea i was also wondering how to get into my windows storage partition that i keep all my media files on... can't do that if its ntfs?
[01:42] <lsuactiafner> MyLeftNut : xorg was updated, i think
[01:42] <CompBrain> Does Breezy just take a long time at 'Storing Language'?
[01:42] <nalioth> paco_: use Partition Magic to convert your NTFS to fat32
[01:42] <avi> P8ntKid: What do you mean, not sure?  You set up the access point, right?  Or did someone else?
[01:42] <neo1> can anybody help me
[01:42] <lsuactiafner> so reinstall nvidia GL
[01:42] <funkyHat> xGun, linux can read ntfs fine
[01:42] <nalioth> paco_: ext2fs.sourceforge.net
[01:42] <avi> anyone able to answer my question, or should I repeat?
[01:42] <lsuactiafner> basically, apt-get install --reinstall packages_for_nvidia
[01:42] <paco_> xGun, you can do it if you only want to read. Look up the ubuntu starter guide and look at how to mount an ntfs drive as read-only
[01:42] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, It says usermod : admin group unknown
[01:42] <Hytak> Hello... need help setting up ppp. I tried with KPPP, pon and pppd call provider (yes, I modified /etc/ppp/peers/provider and /etc/ppp/chatscripts) but I'll say with KPPP the problem, it's same thing iwht other: KPPP find my modem right, it dial, light open on my modem... at the last stage it stick to "Logging on to network" for about 40 secondes and then... stop everything saying me error 15... any idea?
[01:42] <MyLeftNut> lsuactiafner,  is that verbatim what I should type?
[01:42] <xGun> paco: ok thx
[01:42] <lsuactiafner> ubotu tell MyLeftNut about nvidia
[01:42] <nalioth> avi: wait a few minutes, between repeating your question(s)
[01:43] <funkyHat> can parted safely resize nfts partitions?
[01:43] <paco_> is there a linux program that will convert my ntfs partition to fat32? That would save me some time (It's empty at the moment..)
[01:43] <lsuactiafner> just follow the guy and do --reinstall
[01:43] <lsuactiafner> paco_ : no.
[01:43] <avi> Hytak: I'd help (as I know PPP); unfort, I'm new to Ubuntu... :)
[01:43] <nalioth> funkyHat: yes, provided you defragment your NTFS first
[01:43] <funkyHat> paco_, no, and if there was, it would break your windows installation
[01:43] <ben_underscore> zorba64, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2172
[01:43] <Hytak> It seem no one anymore these time know ppp at all
[01:43] <funkyHat> nalioth, cool :)
[01:44] <xGun> I have another quick question, i have an ati 9800 xt, i am wondering if I need to do any extra steps after a clean install of 5.10 preview to get 3d acceleration working?
[01:44] <Hytak> Thinking of changing of distro, bag, ubuntu seemed nice
[01:44] <funkyHat> hmm... what about expanding vfat partitions from the beginning?
[01:44] <Hytak> bad*
[01:44] <paco_> cool, so far this ubuntu is really nice. I'm liking it.
[01:44] <nalioth> funkyHat: read the parted manpage first, eh?
[01:44] <avi> Hello!  I just tried opening up the help menu in OpenOffice.org 1.9.125, and it told me the help system could not be started.  How can I fix this?
[01:44] <funkyHat> ;)
[01:44] <zorba64> ben_underscore: its not even picking it up...bugger
[01:44] <paco_> of course I went a little nuts with apt-get and now my sound doesn't work... but i'll work on that. :)
[01:44] <ben_underscore> zorba64, that's what i thought.
[01:45] <paco_> is mythtv worth switching to linux for?
[01:45] <linner> nope... now I can't get it to sync at all!
[01:45] <linner> this is maddening
[01:45] <P8ntKid> avi: Its not configureing my wireless setting correctly cuase im not connected to the internet.
[01:45] <avi> what is mythTV?
[01:45] <neo1> ???????MP3?????
[01:45] <avi> P8ntKid: do you mean your access point is not connected to the internet?
[01:45] <paco_> mythTV is some pvr software for linux that I heard about. My motivation for trying out ubuntu
[01:45] <xGun> Paco: from what i've read about mythtv, its actually easier to download Knoppmyth and install that
[01:45] <P8ntKid> avi: Yes
[01:45] <avi> sweet, I gotta check that out myself.
[01:45] <ben_underscore> zorba64, it's for my wife, who has a mac powerbook. her work sent her this usb disk drive and she cannot get it to work on the mac. which is weird  because it supports ntfs (write)
[01:45] <phoenixp3k> :(
[01:45] <P8ntKid> avi: No, my wireless card isnt connecting to the internet
[01:46] <phoenixp3k> :'(
[01:46] <paco_> xGun, really? How come?
[01:46] <nalioth> funkyHat: parted is capable of many unique things. read the man page or the internet homepage for it
[01:46] <phoenixp3k> My passwords are not working
[01:46] <avi> P8ntKid: shouldn't make a difference in connected to the access point
[01:46] <funkyHat> ok, i will :)
[01:46] <ben_underscore> zorba64, so i thought i'd test it out with ubuntu -- usually works for other drives, so perhaps the drive is fucked
[01:46] <michelp> so what's the difference between "Erease entire disk" and "Erease entire disk and use LVM"?
[01:46] <xGun> Paco:  Because they have created a simple "dumbed" down install process that loads mythtv onto your pc just as if you were installing a linux distro.
[01:47] <mlopes> when I hit the volume up/volume down keys on my laptop (fn + f10/f11)it controls the master
[01:47] <michelp> i willing to sacrifice dual boot to get it up and running today
[01:47] <mlopes> how can I configure it to control the headphones?
[01:47] <neo1> dann halt nicht
[01:47] <zorba64> ben_underscore: it might just be
[01:47] <xGun> Right now i'm working on getting mythTV under ubuntu, no luck yet :\
[01:47] <Quinthius> michelp: one uses lvm, one doesnt...
[01:47] <MyLeftNut> lsuactiafner,  thanks for the help, I'll let y'all know if I get on okay. Cheers guys
[01:48] <ben_underscore> zorba64, thanks for your help!
[01:48] <michelp> Quinthius, would the use of LVM be desireable for just a daily ubuntu user?  or is it harmless not to use it?
[01:48] <paco_> that bites. From what I remember, knoppMyth is using an older release of mythtv
[01:48] <pluggo> Sorry I wandered off there. My cousin called who I haven't heard from in years.
[01:48] <tag> What do I use to rip a cd?
[01:48] <nalioth> michelp: LVM is for use if you want to use more than one HD, you can safely not use it
[01:48] <nalioth> tag: grip
[01:49] <james_> is there something specific I have to do to an office file, in order to get word to be able to open it properly, without it being all garbeled?
[01:49] <michelp> nalioth, thanks!
[01:49] <avi> P8ntKid:  Here's the way it works.  You connect to your access point (usually a wireless router) from your computer.  The access point connects to the internet.
[01:49] <Quinthius> michelp: it's fine not to use it. it allows for things like easier repartitioning, combining drives together into one "virtual" drive, etc.
[01:49] <P8ntKid> avi: Its not connecting to my router
[01:49] <pluggo> phoenixp3k: If you just type "sudo" in a shell does it let you in with your password?
[01:49] <zorba64> james_: save it as ms word .doc
[01:49] <pluggo> er,, just "sudo sh"
[01:49] <avi> p8ntKid: exactly.  That's what I'm trying to diagnose with you...
[01:49] <P8ntKid> avi: ok
[01:50] <P8ntKid> avi: How can i configure it so it does?
[01:50] <reiki> woot! got my mplayer plugin working in firefox :)
[01:50] <james_> ok I guess i didn't think of that duh, thank you
[01:50] <avi> p8ntKid: Did you try System -> Administration -> Networking?
[01:50] <neo1> Channel333
[01:50] <P8ntKid> avi: Yes
[01:50] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, If I just time sudo it tells me the options of sudo
[01:50] <avi> P8ntKid: Okay, what did you do there?
[01:50] <Quinthius> michelp: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/ for more info if you want to play around with it
[01:50] <P8ntKid> avi: Hold on
[01:51] <Quinthius> michelp: main thing to remember is /boot has to be on a real partition, not a lvm volume
[01:51] <P8ntKid> avi: Nothing, cause i dont know what to do.
[01:51] <michelp> thanks guys ;) installation seems to be running normally
[01:51] <michelp> 64 bits here I come!
[01:51] <avi> P8ntKid: Okay, tell me... does it show a Wireless connection, and what is the status of it if it does?
[01:51] <jorgp2> where do I tell hoary to use fluxbox instead of gnome?
[01:51] <pluggo> phoenixp3k, sorry, I meant "sudo sh"
[01:51] <funkyHat> vermyndax, well hopefully it's the best ubuntu at least ;)
[01:52] <phoenixp3k> See, it says: (I'M) is not in the sudoers file.
[01:52] <vermyndax> honestly I didn't care for the first two ubuntu releases - this preview release is the best thing I've run in a long time
[01:52] <Quinthius> jorgp2: it's not on your Sessions menu when you log in?
[01:52] <avi> Third time, folks... if no-one can help me, I'll try a different channel: Hello!  I just tried opening up the help menu in OpenOffice.org 1.9.125, and it told me the help system could not be started.  How can I fix this?
[01:52] <michelp> shit! my .iso download was corrupt :(
[01:52] <pluggo> OK. Try "su" and type your root password, then "nano /etc/sudoers"
[01:52] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, how can I add myself in the sudoers file
[01:53] <vermyndax> phoenixp3k: run "visudo"
[01:53] <reiki> avi: did you download and install the help system? I think you want to start synaptic and search openoffice and see if there's a help system to install
[01:53] <pluggo> At the bottom, add a line that says "yourusername ALL=(ALL) ALL"
[01:53] <avi> I'll give that a shot... thanks reiki!
[01:53] <phoenixp3k> vermyndax: visudo: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[01:54] <tag> wow
[01:54] <tag> I guess you can't rip a track and play it at the same time
[01:54] <jorgp2> Quinthius: thanks
[01:54] <tag> hahah
[01:54] <peirthies> any of you by chance know a website that has some good doc on programming C in nix? more or less just looking for reference material really
[01:54] <paco_> vermyndax, what's the dif between the preview release and the others? What version are you running?
[01:54] <pluggo> heh, yeah, that may cause problems
[01:54] <vermyndax> paco_: running Breezy Badger
[01:54] <reiki> ok I gotta ask... is there a decent GAME for linux? Like... oh I don't know... anything graphic, shoot 'em up, whatever?
[01:54] <LadyLinux> Hello all.
[01:54] <vermyndax> reiki: enemy territory
[01:54] <paco_> vermyndax, cool. I'm not sure what I'm running. How do I find out?
[01:55] <peirthies> reiki: quake3, doom3, and Unreal tournament all run in here
[01:55] <vermyndax> reiki: bzflag
[01:55] <rob_p> phoenixp3k:  you need to run visudo with root privs.
[01:55] <reiki> thanks vermyndax ... I'll google that one
[01:55] <vermyndax> anything UT and id software runs on linux
[01:55] <paco_> ah, there we go, 5.04 - Hoary Hedgehog release.
[01:55] <paco_> what's the dif?
[01:55] <vermyndax> reiki: enemy territory may even be in synaptic
[01:55] <LadyLinux> bob2: Jave worked for netzero.  Modem has a bug in the ubuntu software, don't work.
[01:55] <reiki> peirthies, really?  hmmm... I might start having fun again. I
[01:55] <james_> I can't save any files to my floppy disk, when I try to it says I am not the owner of that drive, so I don't have permission to write to that folder
[01:55] <phoenixp3k> rob_p, all right how do I do that...
[01:56] <vermyndax> I have a weird OpenOffice problem too - when I run it for the first time, nothing happens... then I run it again and it pops up two windows
[01:56] <avi> reiki: I can't find openoffice help...
[01:56] <pluggo> phoenixp3k: su -c "nano /etc/sudoers"
[01:56] <peirthies> reiki you need to own those games, but usually the prospective games site will have more info about it
[01:56] <vermyndax> but the help system isn't working for me either
[01:56] <rob_p> phoenixp3k:  open a console and type, "su" and then enter your root password.
[01:56] <reiki> peirthies, ok I'll look them up
[01:56] <reiki> avi hold on... let me chck
[01:56] <avi> reiki: I'm running a search right now... ah, fount it!
[01:57] <darknature> ok how do i make my printer work on gnome
[01:57] <darknature> it identified its usb connections but it won't let me print
[01:57] <avi> reiki: should I be looking for openoffice.org2 help, or the standard openoffice.org help?
[01:57] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, rob_p . It's in the terminal window, I add myself there?
[01:58] <pluggo> Yes. Add a line that says "yourusername ALL=(ALL) ALL"
[01:58] <reiki> avi: the standard on... listed BELOW the openoffice2 ones
[01:58] <rob_p> phoenixp3k:  were you able to open the sudoers file with visudo?
[01:58] <phoenixp3k> it says # This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root. ( pluggo)
[01:58] <funkyHat> pluggo, no no
[01:58] <Dre> hello
[01:58] <avi> Okay, I'll install that one... thanks, reiki; you've been a big help!
[01:58] <funkyHat> pluggo, just add yourself to the group 'admin'
[01:58] <reiki> avi: like... openoffice.org-help-en for english help
[01:58] <pluggo> She doesn't have the group admin.
[01:58] <avi> P8ntKid, did you see my last question?
[01:58] <rob_p> phoenixp3k:  You have to use visudo to edit that file.
[01:58] <pluggo> He?
[01:58] <james_> How do I make myself the administrator?
[01:58] <pluggo> She?
[01:58] <pluggo> Not sure.
[01:58] <pluggo> :)
[01:59] <funkyHat> james_, add yourself to the 'admin' group
[01:59] <phoenixp3k> rob_p, yes I'm using visudo now
[01:59] <funkyHat> anyone in the admin group has full sudo access
[01:59] <LadyLinux> Has anyone fixed the bug in the ubuntu software for the smartlink SL1900 PCI modem?
[01:59] <darknature> doesn't anyone know why my printer won't print...the device manager has found the usb connections already
[01:59] <rob_p> phoenixp3k:  Ok.  Now add the line, "your_username  ALL=(ALL) ALL" to it and save it.
[01:59] <P8ntKid> avi: Yes, hold on though. Ill get back to you in a minute
[01:59] <pluggo> funkyHat: Not if the admin group doesn't exist.
[01:59] <vermyndax> the package is openoffice.org-help-en
[01:59] <arcanistherogue> what are some of the good linux habits ubuntu teaches you?  i hear this alot...
[02:00] <avi> no prob, P8ntKid, I'll be here...
[02:00] <funkyHat> pluggo, has it been deleted then?
[02:00] <paco_> is it worth upgrading from 5.04 to 5.10 preview?
[02:00] <vermyndax> paco_: yes very
[02:00] <vermyndax> paco_: I'm lovin 5.10
[02:00] <erisco> hello, i am trying to find an adobe photoshop skin for gimp. anyone know where I can get such a thing?
[02:00] <pluggo> funkyHat: Not sure. I tried telling him/her to add him/herself to the group admin, but usermod balked because admin doesn't exist.
[02:00] <paco_> vermyndax,  can I do it without reinstalling?
[02:00] <gnat42> anyone using a CMI8768 audio card here?
[02:00] <vermyndax> paco_: I dunno about that, sorry
[02:00] <Quinthius> paco_: just don't expect it to work flawlessly just yet... there are still some bugs floating around
[02:01] <harrytuttle> erisco: you mean gimpshop?
[02:01] <LadyLinux> Anyone here from TX, NM, OK area?
[02:01] <phoenixp3k> ^O is that how I save? rob_p
[02:01] <james_> in the properties of the admin group it says that I am the only group user, is that all I need?
[02:01] <pluggo> And just blindly adding it will give it a different group ID than it had before, so if any files are owned by the admin group they wouldn't be accessible.
[02:01] <paco_> Quinthius, that's cool
[02:01] <darknature> doesn't anyone know why my printer won't print...the device manager has found the usb connections already
[02:01] <SlicerDicer-> anybody know how to force eject a cd?
[02:01] <LadyLinux> I'm wanting to find a Linux group.
[02:02] <funkyHat> pluggo, phoenixp3k, edit the file /etc/group and add a line admin:x:193:*username*
[02:02] <SlicerDicer-> I cant get my cd out and its driving me nuts
[02:02] <bimberi> funkyHat, pluggo: my laptop doesn't have the admin group - it was upgraded from warty.  Native hoary installs have it
[02:02] <Quinthius> SlicerDicer-: unmount it first?
[02:02] <linner> hey ya'll ... how do I access my linux box from a windows machine?
[02:02] <rob_p> phoenixp3k:  I can't remember.  I think ctrl-x but there should be a menu at the bottom.
[02:02] <pluggo> darknature: Have you set up the printer in System->Administration->Printing?
[02:02] <funkyHat> (note= doesn't have to be 193, that's just a good guess at a gid that's not in use)
[02:02] <paco_> linner, use VNC
[02:02] <vermyndax> hrm now I can't even get openoffice to run... oh wait there it is... man that is SLOW
[02:02] <darknature> yeah i have
[02:02] <linner> paco_, what's VNC?
[02:02] <funkyHat> bimberi, ah, makes sense now :)
[02:02] <pluggo> My machine does have admin. It's phoenixp3k that doesn't. :)
[02:03] <paco_> linner, google it. It's like remote desktop for windows (I'm pretty sure it came out first actually)
[02:03] <linner> i want to be able to upload a file folder from my windows machine to my Linux box
[02:03] <linner> oh okay
[02:03] <linner> paco_, I'll find it now
[02:03] <linner> paco_, I should tell you the computers are side by side
[02:03] <SlicerDicer-> Quinthius, that would be all well in good if it did not say busy
[02:03] <funkyHat> paco_, i don't think it's VNC he wants...
[02:03] <pluggo> linner: You can use filezilla (filezilla.sf.net) and upload over SSH
[02:03] <funkyHat> paco_, he wants something through which he can transfer files
[02:03] <SlicerDicer-> Quinthius, but I killed the tasks using it and I dont really want to reboot
[02:03] <Quinthius> SlicerDicer-: are you currently sitting in /media/cdrom0 in a terminal window or anything?
[02:04] <linner> pluggo, is that something I can get through synaptic
[02:04] <rob_p> phoenixp3k:  Yes, it's ctrl-X and when it asks you to save the modified buffer, say, "y" and it will be saved.
[02:04] <paco_> linner, yea, if it's just file sharing, set up a network, then set up a share in windows and access it through linux. Probably the easiest way
[02:04] <pluggo> linner: It's something you can get for Windows :) Install that on the windows box, then connect to your linux box with it
[02:04] <SlicerDicer-> ohh sure Quinthius I tried that
[02:04] <linner> paco_, any articles you can give me on setting up a network?
[02:04] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: really? lsof says no one is using it?
[02:04] <pluggo> linner: You can get it from http://filezilla.sf.net/
[02:04] <SlicerDicer-> Quinthius, err I tried unmounting it manually using that argh
[02:04] <SlicerDicer-> Quinthius, sorry misred you haha
[02:04] <LadyLinux> bob2: Hi.
[02:04] <linner> pluggo, thanks!!
[02:04] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, sec
[02:05] <bob2> right, so you haven't checked?
[02:05] <pluggo> linner: no problema :)
[02:05] <phoenixp3k> rob_p, funkyHat The visudo technique worked
[02:05] <gnat42> anyway to use oss sound instead of alsa?
[02:05] <Quinthius> SlicerDicer-: eh? i mean, if you are currently in /media/cdrom0 in a terminal window, it wont let you unmount it. so you have to cd to a different dir first
[02:05] <paco_> linner, do you have a router set up to connect the two computers or they're just sitting side by side?
[02:05] <rob_p> phoenixp3k:  Cool!  :-)
[02:05] <bob2> LadyLinux: aloha
[02:05] <SlicerDicer-> Quinthius, no I am not
[02:05] <funkyHat> phoenixp3k, cool :)
[02:05] <vermyndax> anyone know of a way to speed up openoffice startup?  use sun's java instead of blackdown maybe?
[02:06] <LadyLinux> bob2: Smartlink files from ubuntu has a bug in them, don't work.
[02:06] <vermyndax> too bad I'm on amd64 eh heheh
[02:06] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, is there any way to grep that? good god I got over 1000 lines and it overflowed my terminal heh
[02:06] <pluggo> SlicerDicer, "fuser -vm /media/cdrom0" will tell you the processes
[02:06] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: of course.....
[02:06] <SlicerDicer-> pluggo, thanks
[02:06] <funkyHat> phoenixp3k, my technique would have included using visudo anyway, so would have been more work for you anyway
[02:06] <bob2> lsof | grep cdrom
[02:06] <Quinthius> SlicerDicer-: do lsof /dev/hdc or whatever your cdrom dev is
[02:06] <bob2> LadyLinux: how do you know it has a bug?
[02:06] <phoenixp3k> funkyHat, it's ok :) I can enjoy Ubuntu once more!
[02:06] <bob2> oh, the linux-image/kernel-image thing?
[02:06] <pluggo> Or lsof works too :)
[02:06] <funkyHat> :)
[02:06] <LadyLinux> bob2: Someone has a Diamond Supramax serial modem for me.
[02:07] <bob2> cool
[02:07] <pluggo> Supramax. Now that just sounds fast.
[02:07] <phoenixp3k> funkyHat , rob_p , pluggo : Thanks for your help Guys! :D
[02:07] <pluggo> No prob phoenixp3k
[02:07] <SlicerDicer-> pluggo, bob2, Quinthius, nothing showed up
[02:07] <rob_p> phoenixp3k:  np.  have fun!
[02:07] <reiki> I remember when Telebit modems were da bomb... hehehe.... but then.... I'm old
[02:07] <LadyLinux> pluggo: It's a 56k external.  :)
[02:08] <reiki> it was a giant leap from 300 baud to 2400
[02:08] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: and 'sudo umount -l /media/cdrom0' does what?
[02:08] <bobby> I added a script into /etc/cron.daily... how do I make cron see it and execute it when it goes?
[02:08] <pluggo> bobby: chmod +x should be all you need
[02:08] <bob2> cron will ee it
[02:08] <bobby> hmm, well it didn't work the last two days?
[02:08] <LadyLinux> reiki: It's a better leap than a Winmodem wanna be modem
[02:08] <bobby> when I just ./script it executes correctly :|
[02:09] <reiki> LadyLinux, so true..... so true. I don't own any modems any more
[02:09] <bob2> bobby: ls -ld of it?
[02:09] <pluggo> bobby: This may be a dumb question, but is crond running?
[02:10] <SlicerDicer-> good man bob2 thanks
[02:10] <funkyHat> what's the command to turn on alsa oss emulation?
[02:10] <funkyHat> something like modprobe -v ......
[02:10] <LadyLinux> reiki: Why does ubuntu have all the files for a smartlink with a bug in it?
[02:10] <bobby> pluggo, well the other things that it should do are being done
[02:10] <bob2> it's already loaded
[02:11] <bobby> root@itworkshop2:/etc/cron.daily # ls -ld
[02:11] <reiki> LadyLinux, I haven't the faintest idea
[02:11] <bobby> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2005-09-12 16:00 .
[02:11] <bob2> snd_pcm_oss is the one
[02:11] <bob2> bobby: of the file you added...
[02:11] <funkyHat> why do applications execute differently depending on whether i run them through aoss or not then?
[02:11] <bobby> heh, missed that
[02:11] <bobby> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 99 2005-09-12 16:00 squid
[02:12] <bob2> funkyHat: how so?
[02:12] <ilpavox> anyone have trouble with java plugin and firefox after installing the sun's package and checking the sym links?
[02:12] <bob2> bobby: run-parts --test -v /etc/cron.daily  | grep squid
[02:13] <bobby> /etc/cron.daily/squid
[02:13] <bobby> no errors
[02:13] <bob2> that sounds a lot like it should be running then
[02:13] <bob2> you're really sure it's not?
[02:14] <bobby> definately, the folder where it should be moving the required file to doesn't recieve the file ... though if you run it ./squid it works fine
[02:14] <avi> P8ntKid: I'm totally willing to help, but I do have other things to do... if you're not ready for help right now, check to see if someone else is going to be around in here who can help.
[02:14] <bobby> (the squid task moves access.log to another folder for archieving)
[02:14] <pluggo> bobby: is it possible it's not running with permission to access that directory?
[02:14] <bob2> mmm, you should be using logrotate for that, anyway
[02:15] <bobby> bobby, erm, how is that defined?
[02:15] <bob2> but it should be running
[02:15] <bobby> bob2, yes - I wasn't able to find good documentation on logrotate
[02:15] <vermyndax> is it true there's no browser plugin for sun's java on amd64?
[02:16] <bob2> vermyndax: indeed
[02:16] <bob2> go proprietary software!
[02:16] <vermyndax> bob2: that is some suck
[02:16] <vermyndax> heh so I get to run two JVM's ;)
[02:16] <bob2> well, email sun and tell them you think it sucks
[02:17] <vermyndax> I emailed macromedia and told them what I thought of no flash support
[02:17] <bobby> bob2, got the idea of logrotate - thanks for saving me some time :)
[02:17] <funkyHat> bob2, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2173
[02:17] <LincTeK> hey war-totem did you get your network figured out ??
[02:17] <LadyLinux> bob2: I was able to install the smarlink files from sarge debian.  The drivers I could partially install.
[02:17] <shik45> hh
[02:17] <vermyndax> sure wish I could figure out what's up with openoffice though
[02:17] <funkyHat> bob2, i did the same thing with skype each time before exiting, made a call to echo123 (the echo test user)
[02:18] <bob2> LadyLinux: yeah, iirc, it depens on the wrong kernel name
[02:18] <kkrizka_> hi, how do you use usb cdroms with linux?
[02:18] <funkyHat> yes, dsp1 is the correct device :P
[02:18] <bob2> funkyHat: is something using /dev/dsp1?
[02:18] <bob2> vermyndax: it's an old old old codebase that isn't very portable
[02:18] <bob2> kkrizka_: plug them in
[02:18] <funkyHat> no, dsp1 is my second soundcard... i only use it for skype at the moment (well, i don't, cos it's not working :P)
[02:18] <kkrizka_> bob2: dosn't work, I had to install some firmware from the vendors site
[02:18] <vermyndax> bob2: yeah, but it's like, abysmally slow ;)
[02:18] <bob2> fuser -v /dev/dsp1 agrees?
[02:19] <bob2> kkrizka_: er, that's pretty crap
[02:19] <bob2> is it too late to return it?
[02:19] <kkrizka_> bob2: it's quite old, I just never bothered to use it under linux
[02:19] <funkyHat> bob2, yep, no output
[02:19] <reiki> !shockwave
[02:19] <ubotu> reiki: Do they come in packets of five?
[02:19] <reiki> hmmm...
[02:20] <bob2> k	ah
[02:20] <reiki> I have flashplayer installed ok... but not shockwave player... do I need that? :)
[02:20] <kkrizka_> bob2: I got it to detect (checked system log), but I am not sure how to mount it
[02:20] <bob2> funkyHat: dunno then, maybe aoss just doesn't work entirely correctly
[02:20] <funkyHat> ok
[02:20] <bob2> kkrizka_: look at /var/log/messages and see what device it is
[02:20] <Quinthius> anyone here use banshee?
[02:21] <kkrizka_> bob2/etc/hotplug/usb/bpckusb: load usb/bpckusb.fw/BPINTCD.HEX for ac9/10/85 to /proc/bus/usb/002/002
[02:21] <funkyHat> well, it 1/2 works without running it through aoss (doesn't at all if you do run it through aoss)
[02:21] <kkrizka_> bob2: that's only thing I found to do with the filesystem
[02:21] <funkyHat> i can hear the automated voice (or any other voice) but it doesn't get any sound input
[02:21] <bob2> kkrizka_: that means it's trying to load the firmware
[02:21] <jake1> i am soo 1337
[02:21] <bob2> I'd be pretty surprised if aoss worked with input
[02:21] <jake1> extended display rules
[02:22] <funkyHat> bob2, well, not using aoss doesn't either :(
[02:22] <bob2> skype really doesn't do alsa?
[02:22] <welly> Hello all.. I'm trying to play an MP3 on a fairly fresh ubuntu install - getting "failed to create a gstreamer play object" when I double click on the file
[02:22] <jake1> i have a Matrix screen saver that now plays on all my monitors
[02:22] <kkrizka_> bob2: I don't see any more messages to do with usb after it
[02:22] <funkyHat> the only options you get are the dsps
[02:22] <SuperQ> anyone know what SATA cards are good with ubuntu?
[02:22] <erUSUL> kkrizka_: it should be /dev/scd0 or /dev/sr0
[02:22] <funkyHat> i know, skype really SHOULD do alsa
[02:22] <SuperQ> or better question.. what cards should be avoided at all costs
[02:22] <Quinthius> welly: install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[02:22] <nalioth> !tell welly about restricted
[02:22] <erUSUL> !tell welly about mp3
[02:22] <funkyHat> maybe it's worth mentioning on their forums if they have forums...
[02:23] <Quinthius> welly: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:23] <bob2> kkrizka_: right, because it won't do anything without the firmware
[02:23] <welly> cheers guys!
[02:23] <vermyndax> SuperQ: I'm using onboard VIA 8237 SATA for all hard drives
[02:23] <kkrizka_> ahh, I restarted hotplug again and it detected it :)
[02:23] <bob2> SuperQ: worth reading http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html
[02:24] <SuperQ> bob2: yea.. I read that one
[02:24] <reiki> I just noticed.... Ubuntu doesn't appear to have found my Wacom tablet (it's an older one connected to a serial port) ... Should I get a new tablet? And more importantly... if I get a new one, will it work? :)
[02:24] <SuperQ> bob2: I've basicaly decided to skip any card supported raid and just use md
[02:25] <SuperQ> reiki: being on a serial port, you may have to set it up manualy
[02:25] <LadyLinux> concept10: Hi are you there?
[02:25] <bob2> anything plugged into the serial port is going to require manually fiddling
[02:25] <SuperQ> reiki: I would use http://google.com/linux to search for that wacom model specificaly
[02:25] <reiki> ack... that'd take me back to slackware days :) Maybe I'll ask wife for a USB one for my birthday
[02:25] <reiki> :)
[02:26] <SuperQ> reiki: heh
[02:26] <SuperQ> reiki: what model wacom?
[02:26] <reiki> Any word on whether the USB ones work properly ?
[02:26] <bob2> it's likely the serial one will work fine
[02:26] <bob2> once setup
[02:26] <reiki> SuperQ: it an ArtPad II a KT model
[02:27] <SuperQ> reiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WacomTabletIssue
[02:28] <linner> paco_ yes, I have a router set up
[02:28] <linner> there are three computers (2 win, 1 linux)
[02:28] <linner> asfdsdf
[02:28] <linner> oops sorry :)
[02:29] <carlos> hello... i have problems whit the mbr
[02:29] <linner> paco_ shoot he signed off when I was researching
[02:30] <linner> I should say that paco_ signed off while I was researching
[02:30] <reiki> SuperQ: thanks... but that was all about USB tablets... I think I have some digging to do :)
[02:30] <ilpavox> i apt-get the sun java package and rebooted firefox, but i am getting a plugin/vm crash when i open a hava page.  any help?
[02:30] <Plazma> is ubuntuguide.com a good online documentation? someone was telling me that it was incorrect and garabe
[02:30] <bob2> carlos: you need to ask a question...
[02:30] <robotgeek> !ubuntuguide
[02:30] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[02:30] <bob2> Plazma: some of it is misleading and dangerous
[02:30] <bob2> much of it is useful, thho
[02:30] <LadyLinux> Laters.
[02:30] <carlos> there are support in spanish???
[02:30] <bob2> the problem is that the sort of people who use it are not the sort of people who can figure out which bits are wrong
[02:30] <reiki> !es
[02:30] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:30] <nalioth> !es
[02:31] <bob2> ilpavox: yes, java is buggy, complain to sun
[02:31] <nfinitep1astik> rofl, ubotu is multilingual
[02:31] <Plazma> bob2, oh ok, so say if im failry expierence linux user, but a bit rusty, how good is it then?
[02:31] <nalioth> nfinitep1astik: ubotu is quicker (many of us are multilingual)
[02:31] <Plazma> bob2, pardon my mispellings too hehe
[02:32] <reiki> wow... even the linuxwacom project doesn't support my old serial tablet. It supports some NEWER serial tablets... but not this older one
[02:32] <nfinitep1astik> nalioth: then i apologize as a lazy american
[02:32] <bob2> Plazma: not too bad
[02:32] <bob2> p	just be careful about what it says about apt
[02:32] <bob2> e.g. don't point apt at random backports sources just because it tells you to
[02:33] <ilpavox> bob2: ok, but that does not change the fact that it should work.
[02:33] <Plazma> bob2, well i wasnt going to modify sources.list or anything unless i wanted to try bleeding edge or poitn apt in the wrong directlion, id just leave it alone
[02:33] <say> hey all
[02:33] <bob2> ilpavox: indeed, but no one but sun can fix it
[02:33] <bob2> Plazma: sure, shouldn't be problems then
[02:33] <ilpavox> bob2: do you have the plugin working?
[02:33] <nalioth> nfinitep1astik: i am a lazy american (who is lazily multilingual)
[02:34] <Plazma> bob2, i take it you would reccomend ubuntu highly (i know your quit ethe high roller in here)
[02:34] <say> how do i get gtkpod on my cpu
[02:34] <say> ??
[02:34] <say> ty in advance
[02:34] <nfinitep1astik> nalioth: yeah, but you're not from ca.....at least i hope you're not
[02:34] <HrdwrBoB> say: your cpu is the processor
[02:34] <HrdwrBoB> you can't "get things on your cpu" per se
[02:34] <HrdwrBoB> say: you can install gtkpod using synaptic
[02:34] <say> cpu here is short for computer
[02:34] <bob2> ilpavox: no, it was too crashy so I stopped using it
[02:34] <Plazma> !synaptic
[02:34] <ubotu> I guess synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[02:34] <HrdwrBoB> say: no, cpu is cpu
[02:34] <say> well
[02:34] <pluggo> HrdwrBoB: I got some dip on my chip one time.
[02:34] <HrdwrBoB> if you mean computer, say 'box'
[02:34] <say> new york is weird i guess
[02:34] <nfinitep1astik> !caja
[02:34] <ubotu> nfinitep1astik: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[02:35] <say> box is pussy
[02:35] <say> in nyc
[02:35] <say> lol
[02:35] <bob2> Plazma: it's a pretty good OS, yeah.  quite excellent all round.
[02:35] <FruityLoop> hello
[02:35] <Plazma> bob2, whats your take on slackware? just out of curioisty
[02:35] <HrdwrBoB> !tell say about synaptic
[02:35] <bob2> say: er, please stay on-topic and within the bouncs of the CoC
[02:35] <HrdwrBoB> Plazma: waste of time
[02:35] <FruityLoop> can anyone help me
[02:35] <say> sorry
[02:35] <FruityLoop> ?
[02:35] <bob2> Plazma: sounds like too much effort
[02:35] <linner> so back to the drawing board:  I have three computers on a router.  2 are Win and 1 is Ubuntu Linux Breezy - I just want to be able to transfer files to and from any of those computers... and recommendations?
[02:35] <say> "my bust yo"
[02:35] <bob2> FruityLoop: you haven't asked a question yet
[02:35] <pluggo> linner: filezilla didn't work?
[02:35] <FruityLoop> <----- can we talk in a private dialog?
[02:36] <bob2> linner: just use window's normal filesharring stuff then
[02:36] <bob2> FruityLoop: no
[02:36] <Discipulus> linner, Samba
[02:36] <Plazma> bob2, yea thast one thing i didtn like.. i had to compile everything from source, which wasn't to bad, but got tedious, i like how i dont even have to open a browser, just open an xterm apt-get install <package>
[02:36] <linner> bob2, tried that... its asking me to connect to the computer... with passwords
[02:36] <linner> and I don't know what to use
[02:36] <pluggo> FruityLoop, ask your question in the main channel and we'll try to help.
[02:36] <bob2> linner: then tell windows to share things anonymously
[02:36] <linner> pluggo, unless I can do it on symantic I don't know how to do it
[02:36] <bob2> Plazma: heh, yeah, Debian and Ubuntu are good for being lazy
[02:37] <linner> bob2, I'm confused.  How do I do that?
[02:37] <vermyndax> anyone know how to change which Java OpenOffice2 should use?
[02:37] <bob2> linner: right clik on something in windows. share tab. ???. profit.
[02:37] <FruityLoop> ok, i need Java and i dont know what i must du.... its the first time I use Linux
[02:37] <bob2> (I haven't seriously used windows in years, I forget)
[02:37] <linner> bob2, ok... let me go try
[02:37] <bob2> FruityLoop: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[02:37] <linner> Discipulus, what is samba?
[02:37] <Versed`> But lazy is good.
[02:38] <FruityLoop> ok thx
[02:38] <bob2> samba is the linux equivalent of being a windows file server
[02:38] <bob2> ve	absolutely!
[02:38] <linner> oh okay
[02:38] <Plazma> bob2, i have ubuntu on vwmare just to test it, and the only thing i didnt like was that it didnt install gcc, glibc and a few other odds and ends i would use, but i understand why cuz it seems like its geared towards those who are new and wont know much if anything about gcc
[02:38] <linner> bob2, do you recommend samba for what I'm looking for?
[02:38] <HrdwrBoB> Plazma: build-essential has all of that
[02:38] <pluggo> linner: It's a windows program. You install the SSH daemon on your linux box (probably through synaptic) and install filezilla on the windows box.
[02:38] <HrdwrBoB> Plazma: it's not necessary for an end user to have a C compiler
[02:39] <bob2> Plazma: there were big discussions about that at the beginning
[02:39] <bob2> linner: samba only lets your linux machine serve files, it doesn't help linux access windows shares
[02:39] <linner> ok i see what you mean now pluggo
[02:39] <Plazma> bob2, i mean its understandable, but kinda annoying in a way, i guess thast why aptitude is so nice or even synaptic
[02:39] <linner> bob2, oh okay
[02:39] <linner> bob2, what do you think about filezilla?
[02:40] <LincTeK> apt-get install smbfs
[02:40] <linner> guys... what is localhost.localdomain?
[02:40] <funkyHat> your computer
[02:40] <Plazma> linner, that is you
[02:41] <Plazma> linner, thast your loopback address
[02:41] <bob2> linner: I have no idea what that is
[02:41] <LincTeK> host name
[02:41] <Plazma> bob2, lmao
[02:41] <linner> ok... so that's my login to ubuntu?
[02:41] <funkyHat> it's the same as <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:41] <bob2> anything with "zilla" in the name that isn't mozilla is probably crap, tho
[02:41] <bob2> cf prozilla
[02:41] <kbreit> What package can I get gtkembedmoz.dll from?
[02:42] <linner> Plazma, so that's my login to ubuntu?
[02:42] <Plazma> linner, no, your login name should be
[02:42] <Plazma> funkyHat, yes yes it is
[02:42] <Plazma> lmao @ funky.. haha yea
[02:42] <linner> Plazma, ok... so on windows it's asking me for the username/password for my linux box... what exactly is it referring to?
[02:42] <erUSUL> bob2: samba comes whith smbclient which let you access files in win machines
[02:43] <Plazma> linner, exactly waht its saying , your user name and password on your linux box
[02:43] <funkyHat> linner, your linux username and password
[02:43] <abbot45> im having problems with the wifi router im setting up.  i can connect to it and change settings in it, but when i try to go to a page it says "website unavailable"
[02:43] <nalioth> linner: your linux username/pass
[02:43] <Plazma> linner, an account that has access to your linux box
[02:43] <pluggo> linner: Your linux login
[02:43] <linner> nalioth, Plazma funkyHat I put that in and it didn't like it
[02:43] <bytefoo> :|
[02:43] <bob2> kbreit: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:43] <linner> so i'm confused if there's some funny extension or crap that it's asking for
[02:43] <Plazma> linner, the thing i hate about myself is i make shit so much harder on me than it needs to be, just relax, grab a beer , watch som pr0n, and youll be good
[02:43] <LadyLinux> Hello all.
[02:43] <linner> like kelley/ENTER IP here
[02:44] <bob2> erUSUL: they're not in the sama package in ubuntu
[02:44] <LincTeK> linner install samba and smbfs on ubuntu
[02:44] <linner> LincTeK, ok...
[02:44] <bob2> linner: no
[02:44] <linner> no?
[02:44] <bytefoo> dudes how do i force eject a cdrom drive :|
[02:44] <Plazma> bytefoo, umount /dev/cdrom
[02:44] <Plazma> then push the eject button perhaps
[02:45] <LadyLinux> concept10: You here?
[02:45] <linner> bytefoo, the old fashioned way I did it was to use a paperclip and push in the tiny button
[02:45] <bob2> bytefoo: umount it
[02:45] <linner> it will open the ROM whether the computer is on or not
[02:45] <kbreit> bob2, It doesn't appear to list provided files.
[02:45] <linner> bob2, you say no to Samba and smbfs?
[02:45] <linner> how come?
[02:46] <bob2> kbreit: sure it does
[02:46] <bytefoo> it says it's busy :|
[02:46] <welly> does anyone have any pointers to some good info on managing rights on files and directories?
[02:46] <kbreit> bob2, Where?
[02:46] <bob2> bytefoo: then find out what is using it
[02:46] <bob2> kbreit: scroll down...
[02:46] <bob2> linner: I didn't say that
[02:46] <linner> windows sees the linux box and linux sees the windows box but neither will let me access the files
[02:46] <bob2> linner: if you want to use windows shares from linux, smbfs is a good option
[02:46] <bob2> linner: then share things anonymously
[02:46] <linner> using the known passwords
[02:46] <reiki> bob2: does umount -f still get used to force an unmount?
[02:46] <bob2> SMB is insecure anyway, there's no point using passwords
[02:47] <kbreit> Oh, found it/
[02:47] <P8ntKid> Can anybody help me get ubuntu to recognize my wireless card?
[02:47] <linner> bob2, I can't find the share anonymously think you're suggesting
[02:47] <bob2> reiki: -l usually works beter ime
[02:47] <linner> bob2, so I'll do a google search and figure it out
[02:47] <robotgeek> P8ntKid: what wireless card do u have?
[02:47] <linner> thanks
[02:47] <welly> basically got a directory, /opt/lampp/htdocs which I want to be read/write accessible by my user
[02:47] <pluggo> linner: did you set up passwords using smbpasswd?
[02:47] <bob2> welly: then make your user own it
[02:47] <linner> pluggo, I don't know what that is
[02:47] <reiki> bob2: the -l parm tells it to unmount as soon as whatever is keeping it busy takes a break? (I'm trying to go from memory here and my memory is older than dirt)
[02:47] <carlos> i need help whit the mbr.
[02:47] <linner> is that something I do through terminal?
[02:48] <welly> bob2, ok.. thats easy enough, possibly :)
[02:48] <carlos> somebody can help me??
[02:48] <welly> erm.. actually it's not.. i'm pretty new to this
[02:48] <welly> chmod right?
[02:48] <bob2> reiki: right, which seems to work almost always for me, for some reason
[02:48] <P8ntKid> robotgeek: Sony Viao 803.11b
[02:48] <bob2> welly: chown
[02:48] <welly> oh ok
[02:48] <D1> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006AMSI/103-4419581-9112600?v=glance
[02:48] <D1> what do you guys think?
[02:48] <D1> it works in linux
[02:49] <linner> pluggo:  I get this:  machine <IP_ADDRESS> rejected the (anonymous) password change: Error was : Account disabled.
[02:49] <linner> Failed to change password for kelley
[02:49] <linner> but i'm using the one and only account I have on linux
[02:49] <robotgeek> P8ntKid: i never heard of that card :( sorry!!
[02:49] <linner> pluggo, I just typed smbpasswd in terminal and that's where the error came from
[02:49] <Dre> does ubuntu's root password the same as my user account?
[02:49] <carlos> i wanna clear the mbr. how i do it???
[02:49] <Dre> is my ubuntu's root password the same as my user account?
[02:50] <LincTeK> Dre no
[02:50] <bob2> Dre: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:50] <reiki> Dre: try it
[02:50] <bob2> carlos: why would you want to do that?
[02:50] <Discipulus> Dre, sudo -s
[02:50] <LadyLinux9> I got bounced off my irc.
[02:50] <carlos> tank bob2.. clear the master boot record
[02:50] <bob2> carlos: why?
[02:50] <MyLeftNut> I was in earlier, was having problems from an update earlier today. When I boot my login terminal just flashes a few times then tells me of an error "no devices found". I'm logged in now by altering the "DEVICE" entry in my xorg.conf to vesa. Can anyone help me?
[02:50] <pluggo> so linner are you logged in as root right now? If so try smbpasswd -a username
[02:51] <welly> cool, that wasn't too painful
[02:51] <linner> um... I don't know...
[02:51] <linner> I've only been doing this about a week pluggo
[02:51] <carlos> no boot whit winXP.
[02:51] <bob2> MyLeftNut: what video card?
[02:51] <linner> pluggo how do I log in as a root?
[02:51] <pluggo> linner: Your prompt is a # if you're root and a $ (or sometimes %) if you're not
[02:51] <MyLeftNut> bob2, Nvidia 5300Go, was working until I updated earlier on today
[02:51] <glDaher> my pppoe doesn't connect on boot up... how do I change this?
[02:51] <welly> i'm definitely warming to linux :)
[02:51] <bob2> MyLeftNut: breezy?
[02:52] <bob2> glDaher: sudo pppoeconf
[02:52] <linner> pluggo, It shows me this:  kelley@Linner:~$ smbpasswd
[02:52] <bob2> iirc
[02:52] <vanberge> MyLeftNut, same thing happened to me...
[02:52] <linner> as soon as I open terminal
[02:52] <Dre> sudo passwd root
[02:52] <pluggo> linner: Type "sudo smbpasswd -a username" then
[02:52] <linner> ok
[02:52] <reiki> I've been whackin away here about 4 weeks and haven't had to log in as root. What's the need for root? I kinda LIKE not being logged in as root :)
[02:52] <bob2> Dre: there's no need to do that
[02:52] <vanberge> MyLeftNut, just have to re-install driver
[02:52] <Dre> sudo passwd root <-- this is only for root's password right?
[02:52] <welly> ok.. am i right in thinking that you can't ssh into ubuntu as root?
[02:52] <bob2> welly: indeed
[02:52] <pluggo> It will ask for your password, then you can add an entry for your samba user
[02:52] <bob2> welly: unless you set a password
[02:52] <LadyLinux9> linner: in root terminal type - sudo passwd  it will ask for password.
[02:52] <glDaher> bob2: already did that. still doesn't connect
[02:52] <xTina> Dre: yes, that changes root's password
[02:52] <bob2> welly: ssh'ing in as root is a bad idea anyway
[02:52] <Dre> xTina : thank you
[02:52] <pluggo> Dre: Right. "sudo passwd someuser" changes someuser's password.
[02:53] <welly> ok.. i've ssh-ed in as my user, is there a way of changing to root without having to sudo every root command?
[02:53] <MyLeftNut> vanberge,  I tried to "Complete Remove" nvidia-glx from Synaptic, then reinstalled it after a reboot but it didn't help
[02:53] <linner> lady
[02:53] <linner> oops
[02:53] <xTina> welly: sudo -s
[02:53] <linner> LadyLinux, let me try that
[02:53] <welly> ahh ok
[02:53] <welly> thank you
[02:53] <LadyLinux9> The setup gnome to allow you to connect as root.
[02:53] <MyLeftNut> bob2, Whatever the latest is, I'm not sure, it's either breezy or hoary
[02:53] <bob2> welly: sudo -s
[02:53] <vanberge> MyLeftNut, i installed the driver from nvidia's site... i didnt even use those two packages.
[02:53] <holycow> MyLeftNut, search for nvidia
[02:53] <bob2> MyLeftNut: er, it's a pretty important difference
[02:53] <bob2> MyLeftNut: if you're using breezy, then please file a bug
[02:53] <holycow> and install the proper nvidia driver, nvidia glx is just one component
[02:53] <linner> LadyLinux, ok it let me change my password but I'm not sure that it change the "root" pass
[02:53] <vanberge> MyLeftNut, it is justa  "nvidia-driver-installer.run" file... you just "sh filename" it
[02:53] <holycow> oh he's using breezy?
[02:53] <holycow> never mind then
[02:54] <MyLeftNut> bob2,  Whichever is the more recent of the two. Sorry, I've been up for nearly 40 hours, my memory is going
[02:54] <vanberge> MyLeftNut, you need to have kernel headers, and nvidia source packages if i remember correctly.
[02:54] <holycow> MyLeftNut, if you are using a developer version of ubuntu you are expected to have the skills to solve it
[02:54] <xTina> funkyHat: sudo -i simulates a fully-fledged login, while sudo -s just makes you root ($HOME will still be set to your user's home, among others) iirc
[02:54] <linner> pluggo, I did that and it gave me another error message
[02:54] <MyLeftNut> vanberge,  I should have them from a previous installation
[02:54] <holycow> we can't help with breezy here
[02:54] <LadyLinux9> linner: The setup gnome to allow you to connect as root.
[02:54] <funkyHat> xTina, ah, so it's the same as the difference between su and su -
[02:54] <carlos> what do i do??? no boot when install the xp.
[02:55] <MyLeftNut> holycow, Oh, so nobodies meant to ask about anything? How are you supposed to learn then?
[02:55] <linner> pluggo, it says:  Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user username. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?
[02:55] <linner> Failed to modify password entry for user username
[02:55] <xTina> funkyHat: basically, yes :)
[02:55] <bob2> MyLeftNut: breezy then, please do file a bug
[02:55] <funkyHat> :)
[02:55] <bob2> holycow: that's not true
[02:55] <linner> LadyLinux, oh gosh... i feel like you're talking greek to me
[02:55] <bob2> carlos: your question is "I installed Windows and now I can't boot Ubuntu anymore"?
[02:55] <LadyLinux9> linner: It's in the menu that allows you change the settings.
[02:55] <holycow> bob2, really? well i'll be :)
[02:56] <holycow> MyLeftNut, go ahead, ask away then
[02:56] <linner> LadyLinux, when i typed it in terminal i received no menu
[02:56] <holycow> :)
[02:56] <LadyLinux9> linner: Then log off and you should be able to logon as root.
[02:56] <LincTeK> nvidia how to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:56] <pluggo> linner: Are you giving it the name of a user that is a valid UNIX user?
[02:56] <linner> LadyLinux, but is that necessary if I only want to be able to share files between my 3 compuers?
[02:56] <linner> pluggo, yes
[02:56] <carlos> no. i installed ubuntu  and now can't boot winxp.
[02:56] <MyLeftNut> holycow, I've got the info I need for another attempt. I'll let yis know
[02:56] <LadyLinux9> linner: It's on the top tool bar.
[02:56] <linner> as far as I know, I'm the only user on this box
[02:57] <linner> my user name is my first name
[02:57] <holycow> MyLeftNut, the only thing i will say is that if you are running breezy, expect daily or hourly breakage
[02:57] <bob2> carlos: then get out your windows boot disk
[02:57] <bz0b> hey all
[02:57] <holycow> its a development platform, the rest is up to you
[02:57] <smurf> whats up everyone
[02:57] <linner> LadyLinux, pluggo in my "users and groups" it shows me as the only user
[02:57] <MyLeftNut> holycow, I prefer to jump in at the deep end.
[02:57] <bytefoo> sky
[02:57] <vanberge> when breezy is officially released... is it better to upgrade via cdrom, or via apt ?
[02:57] <pluggo> linner, is that the username you're feeding to smbpasswd -a?
[02:57] <bob2> vanberge: both are the same
[02:57] <Plazma> wow.. synaptic is pretty awesome.. seems well written
[02:58] <linner> yes
[02:58] <linner> pluggo, yes
[02:58] <bz0b> bob2, when the release of 5.10 comes out, will all the updates that are made for it be there so I can just update my version of development to like the final release version, without having to redownload the new version?
[02:58] <vanberge> bob2, i figured i could just change the repositories and run the apt-get dist upgrade or whatever...
[02:58] <LadyLinux9> linner: On the top tool bat in gnome desktop.  Click 4th from the left.  It's in the settings.
[02:58] <holycow> MyLeftNut, *nod* thats a good way as well.
[02:58] <MyLeftNut> Oh, addendum, how can I remove all my Nvidia driver settings and preferences to ensure a clean install of this update
[02:58] <bob2> vanberge: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeHowto
[02:58] <LadyLinux9> bar.
[02:58] <carlos> i can't do it. i formated high disk y now can install xp... apearme MISSING SYSTEM OPERATING
[02:58] <bob2> I wonder if this upgrade to breezy will ever finish
[02:58] <linner> LadyLinux, I'm using Breezy.. I only have 3 menu items
[02:58] <bz0b> bob2, and how do i install the drivers for my integrated ati gfx card for my notebook
[02:58] <bob2> bz0b: of course!
[02:59] <bz0b> bob2, yay!
[02:59] <LadyLinux9> Ok 3rd.
[02:59] <bob2> bz0b: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:59] <smurf> What's Breezy?
[02:59] <smurf> live cd or distro?
[02:59] <linner> smurf, a version of Ubuntu
[02:59] <bz0b> bob2, thanks
[02:59] <glDaher> I just don't remember how would I prevent any other program/daemon from changing a file! anyone?
[02:59] <linner> smurf, it's in beta right now
[02:59] <xTina> smurf: both
[02:59] <smurf> ahhh
[02:59] <smurf> I shall follow this
[02:59] <smurf> just got ubuntu
[02:59] <glDaher> because something changing my resolve.conf file in the background...
[03:00] <LadyLinux9> linner: It's where you change the gnome settings.
[03:00] <mchugh24> hi all, when I run netstat -vat, one of the listening ports is tcp        0      0 *:ircs                  *:*                     LISTEN
[03:00] <mchugh24> . I take it that this is the irc server, but I don't know how to turn off. Even if it is the client, I would like to turn off. It it not an option that shows up in rcconf and I can't find it in etc/rc... any ideas? thanks
[03:00] <bob2> glDaher: that would be your dhcp client, or ppp client
[03:00] <bob2> glDaher: that's what they're supposed to do
[03:00] <linner> LadyLinux, I've never tried to change the gnome settings... so let me tell you what I have:  applications, places, system
[03:00] <Quinthius> smurf: it's the next release of ubuntu. current stable release is hoary (5.04), breezy is 5.10
[03:00] <linner> LadyLinux, i would assume it's in system but I don't know what to look for since there is no "settings"
[03:00] <bob2> mchugh24: sudo netstat -plt | grep ircs
[03:00] <smurf> i see,  thx
[03:00] <LadyLinux9> linner: It will bring up a window with about 6 tabs.  One allows you to logon as root.
[03:01] <bob2> mchugh24: that will tell you what program it is
[03:01] <mchugh24> ok hold on
[03:01] <LadyLinux9> linner: Yes.
[03:01] <xTina> Anyone with Breezy and RealPlayer installed around?
[03:01] <brad[] > Is the Breezy installer going to ask about LVM in the final release? I can't imagine any end-user is going to comprehend what that is.
[03:01] <glDaher> bob2 , but it puts a wrong nameserver... and I have to edit it regularly to access dns correctly
[03:01] <linner> LadyLinux, the closest thing i have is boot or users/groups
[03:01] <bob2> glDaher: then get your ISP to fix it
[03:01] <bob2> glDaher: until then, you can configure dhcli or ppp to not do it
[03:02] <Quinthius> brad[] : well, lvm is becoming more popular... i think in fc3 or 4, it's used by default even..
[03:02] <carlos> bob2.. there ara some manual???
[03:02] <zdennis> what is a good cd ripper that rips to mp3?
[03:02] <dalamar> anyone have issues with kde apps suddenly dissapearing from the gnome menu? installed klibidio and k3b, had icons in the menu, now no dice?
[03:02] <war-totem> audacity?
[03:02] <P8ntKid> How do i add a wireless connection to ubuntu?
[03:02] <bob2> zdennis: abcde and sound juicer
[03:02] <LadyLinux9> linner: I have the earlier version.  There is a terminal command.  I don't remember it.
[03:02] <mchugh24> 4204/rpc.statd. is that for NFS?
[03:02] <dalamar> zdennis, lame is good
[03:02] <vanberge> bob2, just out of curiosity, what window manager do you use?  i think im guessing you as a open box guy
[03:02] <brad[] > Quinthius: Yeah - that's what I'm thinking though - if LVM is available, why not just use it by default? Joe average won't know the difference
[03:02] <bob2> P8ntKid: depends on your chipset
[03:02] <gooktime> zdennis: grip + lame
[03:02] <vanberge> :-)
[03:03] <zdennis> Sound Juicer doesn't have mp3 as an output
[03:03] <bob2> vanberge: metacity
[03:03] <linner> LadyLinux, ok... I do appreciate your time and help.  thank you!
[03:03] <Riddell> dalamar: it's a known issue in breezy
[03:03] <bob2> zdennis: it does if you install the right gstreamer thing
[03:03] <reiki> zdennis: I used SoundJuicer but you have to install a couple libs and configure it
[03:03] <snausages> zdennis, you can configure it to do so
[03:03] <LincTeK> google dual boot ubuntu and winxp to get some help carlos
[03:03] <bob2> mchugh24: yes
[03:03] <P8ntKid> bob2: ok? When i go to system/admin/Networking, i dont have a Wireless connection there.
[03:03] <LadyLinux9> linner: Your welcome.
[03:03] <dalamar> Riddell, ah okay, thats cool then .. just added some icons to the panel. works fine too
[03:03] <bob2> mchugh24: ubuntu does not run any daemons by default, tho, so if it's running it's because you installed it
[03:03] <Quinthius> brad[] : well... i guess cause it's not popular ENOUGH yet, and there can still be some complications during recoveries and such
[03:03] <bob2> P8ntKid: that's not useful
[03:03] <mchugh24> thanks for the info!
[03:03] <bob2> P8ntKid: what sort of card is it?
[03:03] <P8ntKid> bob2: Do you need to see my wireless chipset?
[03:03] <zdennis> ok, will try abcde first
[03:03] <brad[] > Quinthius: Hrm.. it's just so daunting to ask the question during the installation program :\
[03:04] <Quinthius> brad[] : it would be nice if they added a brief description, though (if they dont already)
[03:04] <brad[] > Quinthius: Maybe hide it behind an 'advanced options' button
[03:04] <bob2> P8ntKid: if you want any help, yes
[03:04] <Dre> hi
[03:04] <P8ntKid> bob2: Im getting it now
[03:04] <Dre> I would like to thank Ubuntu for the shipment of CDs
[03:04] <Dre> :)
[03:04] <carlos> tank you linctek and you bob2
[03:04] <linner> ubotu tell unix commands link
[03:04] <mchugh24> I do have NFS running. The ircs name in netstat confused me
[03:05] <LincTeK> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:05] <Dre> may I know if there is a site for 1st time users of Ubuntu
[03:05] <P8ntKid> bob2: Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[03:06] <vanberge> Dre, ubuntuguide.org
[03:06] <Dre> thank you vanberge
[03:06] <dalamar> !ubuntuguide
[03:06] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, totally, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[03:06] <LincTeK> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation#head-19e51e4331625e264a28ed6c484b946c86882d15
[03:06] <vanberge> Dre, no problem... that is a very good site
[03:06] <glDaher> bob2: I am sure pppoe gets the dns server name right, but seems that dhclient is setting it to my dsl modem.. and replacing the whole contents, where do I find the dhclient config?
[03:06] <LadyLinux9> laters.
[03:07] <reiki> zdennis: try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CDRipping
[03:07] <glDaher> my bad: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[03:07] <bob2> right
[03:07] <vladuz976> can someone help me? how do i add a directory to my path for all users?
[03:07] <pluggo> P8ntKid: You need the madwifi drivers. I'm not sure how to install them on ubuntu, though :)
[03:08] <bob2> vladuz976: editing /etc/bash.bashrc might work
[03:08] <bob2> P8ntKid:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:08] <plagerism> I am having trouble burning data cds with both graveman and k3b in breezy.  Is this a known issue??
[03:08] <zdennis> thanks for the link reiki
[03:08] <LincTeK> vladuz976 i learned it in class but forgot .. need my book sorry
[03:08] <neiras> Hey there - I have a nice ubuntu-desktop install, but I want to remove it and all its parts so I can try kubuntu. Doing apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop only removes the ubuntu-desktop package itself, not its reverse dependencies. Does anyone know how I could do that?
[03:08] <reiki> zdennis: I followed those instructions and ripped a CD in a few minutes after
[03:08] <bob2> plagerism: is it in the BTS?
[03:09] <xTina> neiras: you don't need to remove it
[03:09] <bob2> neiras:  you don't need to remove them, but debfoster would be handy
[03:09] <neiras> xTina - I am aware of that, but I have limited HD space and WANT to remove it.
[03:09] <reiki> neiras: I think you can just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:09] <vladuz976> bob2, what would i edit in there?
[03:09] <plagerism> bob2, ya know what, out of all the things I have learned about Ubuntu, the location of the bug tracking system I have not
[03:09] <reiki> ahhh
[03:09] <neiras> reiki - I'll run out of spaced if I just do that
[03:09] <bob2> vladuz976: add a lie setting the path...
[03:09] <ripgut> Can anyone help me to get my zen micro working in ubuntu
[03:09] <bob2> plagerism: it's in the channel topic...
[03:09] <Riddell> neiras: you don't need to remove it but removing libgtk2.0-0 will kill all gnome stuff
[03:10] <reiki> neiras: ok... I saw that you mentioned that while I was typing :)
[03:10] <neiras> bob2 - I'll have a look at debfoster
[03:10] <plagerism> bob2, that would seem logical
[03:10] <P8ntKid> Whats the comand i can run to do the network setup wizard again?
[03:11] <vanberge> P8ntKid,  sudo shutdown -h now   :-)   just kidding!
[03:11] <LincTeK> lol
[03:11] <neiras> Say I want to remove all packages on my system *except* those depended on by ubuntu-minimal - is there a decent way to do that?
[03:12] <LincTeK> nerias probally better to do server fresh install
[03:12] <bob2> neiras: yes
[03:12] <ripgut> anyone?
[03:12] <bob2> neiras: sudo aptitude, hit M on the "installed packages" item, then select ubuntu minimal for install (+)
[03:12] <LincTeK> and use a small window manager like fluxbox or xfce
[03:12] <bob2> ripgut: google didn't know?
[03:12] <ripgut> nope
[03:12] <mchugh24> thanks again for the help.
[03:13] <pluggo> ripgut, what's a zen micro? One of those creative mp3 players?
[03:13] <ripgut> yea
[03:13] <evian> anyone here use gnucash? is it good?
[03:14] <pluggo> ripgut: It's probably showing up as a generic usb mass-storage device.
[03:14] <ripgut> i did a "lsusb" and it lists a "Bus 001 Device 004: ID 041:411e creative Technology, LTD"
[03:14] <bob2> that just means it's electrically on the usb bus
[03:14] <ripgut> taht what i was thinking too
[03:14] <ripgut> so what do i do
[03:14] <LincTeK> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-34018.html zen micro help
[03:14] <pluggo> ripgut: Do you have any other USB or any SCSI devices?
[03:14] <ripgut> no
[03:15] <ripgut> just this
[03:15] <pluggo> Try sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[03:15] <P8ntKid> What is the comand to reconfigure my network connections? Like the network wizard that i did when i installed ubuntu?
[03:15] <LincTeK> ripgut http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-34018.html
[03:15] <linner> pluggo you asked me before ( i think) if I had smbfs installed... I don't because it won't let me
[03:15] <linner> pluggo, so does this mean that i can't file share with windoze?
[03:15] <pluggo> linner, wasn't me :) I was telling you to use filezilla
[03:15] <linner> oh okay
[03:15] <pluggo> linner, did you try "sudo modprobe smbfs"?
[03:15] <ripgut> what does taht do pluggo, i did that and it didnt do anything
[03:16] <P8ntKid> What is the comand to reconfigure my network connections? Like the network wizard that i did when i installed ubuntu?
[03:16] <linner> no I'll try it now - I was using synaptic...
[03:16] <pluggo> ripgut: it should see if there's a partition table on your micro or not
[03:16] <bob2> P8ntKid: did you read that URL or not?
[03:16] <Carpe_Libertatem> Has anyone successfully installed e17 on Breezy?
[03:16] <P8ntKid> bob2: Yes, i didn.
[03:16] <P8ntKid> bob2: Yes.
[03:16] <pluggo> ripgut: It doesn't look like it does though, did you try the url that LincTeK posted?
[03:17] <linner> pluggo, i does nothing when i type that in terminal
[03:17] <linner> pluggo do you use filezilla?
[03:17] <ripgut> im looking at it right now, but its kinda overwhelming
[03:17] <ripgut> :|
[03:17] <P8ntKid> bob2: But, i think i did something wrong when i installed ubuntu and didnt configure my wireless adapter
[03:17] <pluggo> linner: No output is usually a sign of success in most programs including modprobe. Do "sudo grep smbfs /proc/filesystems".
[03:17] <reiki> ripgut: seen this? http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/
[03:17] <linner> ok
[03:17] <linner> one moment
[03:18] <linner> the out put is:  sudo grep smbfs /proc/filesystems
[03:18] <bob2> P8ntKid: yes, indeed, but that doesn't matter
[03:18] <linner> oops
[03:18] <ripgut> yea
[03:18] <LincTeK> ripgut i have a nomad 2 running on ubuntu
[03:18] <ripgut> hmmm
[03:18] <linner> pluggo, the output is nodev   smbfs
[03:18] <LincTeK> ripgut ck out http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-34018.html
[03:18] <P8ntKid> bob2: So what would you like me to do?
[03:18] <pluggo> linner: Excellent, you should be able to do "mount -t smbfs -o username=windowsusername,password=windowspassword //windowsmachinename/sharename /mnt/somedirectory"
[03:19] <pluggo> Except with a sudo at the beginning of that
[03:19] <linner> oh god... pluggo....
[03:19] <bob2> P8ntKid: follow the steps on that page
[03:19] <linner> pluggo, i have NO IDEA what you're talking aboutr
[03:19] <pluggo> haha
[03:19] <linner> pluggo, do i really paste all that?
[03:20] <LincTeK> linner do you have folders on windows shared ??
[03:20] <linner> yes
[03:20] <Carpe_Libertatem> Has anyone had success installing e17 on Breezy?
[03:20] <pluggo> linner: Just type "sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=whateverusernameyouuseforwindows,password=yourwindowspassword //machinename/sharename /mnt/somedirectory
[03:20] <linner> LincTeK, yes
[03:20] <linner> ok
[03:20] <pluggo> linner: You have to change parts of that though to match your configuration
[03:20] <P8ntKid> bob2: Can you post the link again. sorry :(
[03:20] <LincTeK> linner i just installed samba and smbfs and was able to see windows shares
[03:20] <bob2> 11:08:16           bob2 | P8ntKid:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:21] <Capri> I've just upgraded to Breezy and I am missing the nvidia kernel module. Is this known?
[03:21] <bob2> Capri: is there a bug reported yet?
[03:22] <neiras> bob2: thanks for the package management tips
[03:22] <neiras> big help
[03:22] <pluggo> linner: So if your username is "foo" and your password is "bar" on windows and your machine name is "baz" and your share name is "bletch" you'd do "sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=foo,password=bar //baz/bletch /mnt/floppy"
[03:22] <bob2> yeah?
[03:22] <linner> LincTeK, I can't install smbfs
[03:22] <linner> ok i see
[03:23] <ripgut> can someone help me in pm?
[03:23] <ripgut> i downloaded and "cd'd" into the gnomad2 directory
[03:23] <LincTeK> sudo apt-get install smbfs
[03:24] <linner> LincTeK, i've tried.. i get errors
[03:24] <Capri> bob2: nothing related to missing kernel module file.
[03:24] <smurf> Can anyone tell me how to set a root password, so I can 'su' instead of 'sudo'?
[03:24] <linner> LincTeK, thanks thought
[03:24] <LincTeK> what errors ??
[03:24] <HrdwrBoB> smurf: that's not recommended or required for anything
[03:24] <Capri> Does anyone use Breezy with its nvidia driver?
[03:24] <pluggo> smurf: "sudo passwd root"
[03:24] <linner> pluggo can I pm you
[03:24] <HrdwrBoB> smurf: you can get a root shell with sudo -s
[03:25] <HrdwrBoB> but as pluggo said, sudo passwd root
[03:25] <geyzer> check your apt sources linner
[03:25] <pluggo> linner: sure, but you've got to register with NickServ before /msg works here
[03:25] <snausages> is it possible to "force-eject" a cd?
[03:25] <linner> I already am
[03:25] <snausages> the damn thing won't eject
[03:25] <pluggo> snausages: why isn't it ejecting? In use?
[03:25] <ripgut> with a small pin you can forceecect a cd
[03:25] <ripgut> force eject*
[03:25] <snausages> no, just doesn't want to
[03:25] <bob2> Capri: file it!
[03:25] <smurf> why is this not recommended?  I've gotten used to using SU on other linux os
[03:25] <bob2> smurf: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:25] <snausages> i was using grip, and it finished but didnt eject it. even though i have it configed to do so
[03:25] <linner> Usage: mount -V                 : print version
[03:25] <linner>        mount -h                 : print this help
[03:25] <linner>        mount                    : list mounted filesystems
[03:25] <linner>        mount -l                 : idem, including volume labels
[03:26] <linner> So far the informational part. Next the mounting.
[03:26] <linner> The command is `mount [-t fstype]  something somewhere'.
[03:26] <brenner> snausages: right-click > eject on desktop icon?
[03:26] <linner> Details found in /etc/fstab may be omitted.
[03:26] <LincTeK> snau umount /medias/cdrom
[03:26] <linner>        mount -a [-t|-O]  ...     : mount all stuff from /etc/fstab
[03:26] <linner>        mount device             : mount device at the known place
[03:26] <pluggo> snausages: do "fuser -vm /media/cdrom"
[03:26] <snausages> brenner, no go
[03:26] <smurf> thanks
[03:26] <linner>        mount directory          : mount known device here
[03:26] <ripgut> what does this mean?
[03:26] <ripgut> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[03:26] <ripgut> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[03:26] <ripgut> checking for gawk... no
[03:26] <ripgut> checking for mawk... mawk
[03:26] <ripgut> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
[03:26] <ripgut> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... (cached) yes
[03:26] <ripgut> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[03:26] <nalioth> no pasting in here!
[03:26] <LincTeK> ok everyone goodnight
[03:26] <brenner> snausages: i think you can do sudo eject /dev/cdrom ... or something like that
[03:26] <nmstryoda> nalioth, thanks
[03:26] <bimberi> quickdraw nalioth!
[03:26] <nalioth> use #flood or a pastebin
[03:26] <nalioth> read the bloody /topic
[03:27] <Dre> is it possible to play games in Ubuntu?
[03:27] <bob2> nalioth: /remove is usually simpler
[03:27] <evian> so I've been looking at gnucash here and it looks pretty good functionality-wise, but it looks ugly with gtk1 graphics
[03:27] <Dre> like warcraft? doom3?
[03:27] <Dre> counter-strike?
[03:27] <nalioth> bob2: ok still learning
[03:27] <snausages> ah, i restarted gnome and it worked.
[03:27] <brenner> erm, grub boot options.  what exactly does 'noapic' and 'nolapic' do?
[03:28] <vladuz976> can someone help me editing my path variable?
[03:28] <ripgut> dd
[03:28] <bob2> linner: ripgut do NOT paste stuff in here, it floods the channel and annoys everyone
[03:28] <ripgut> im sorry
[03:28] <brenner> evian: afaik, you're stuck with gtk1 unless someone rewrites it
[03:28] <bob2> vladuz976: same as yo uset the var anywhere
[03:28] <ripgut> does anyone here have gnomad2-2.81 installed?
[03:28] <brenner> a la xmms
[03:28] <bob2> vladuz976: export PATH=$PATH:/blah/
[03:28] <linner> bob2,  I'm sorry... I thought I sent it to pluggo in a PM .. that's why i asked him if I could PM him
[03:29] <vladuz976> bob2, but that is just for that terminal, when i log in again it's gone right?
[03:29] <evian> thanks for the info brenner
[03:29] <bob2> vladuz976: so, as I said earlier, put it in /etc/bash.bashrc
[03:29] <brenner> evian: np
[03:29] <vladuz976> bob2, i don't understand what i need to do in there
[03:29] <vanberge> vladuz976, or move whatever binary file you are trying to execute into a dir that already is part of your path
[03:30] <snausages> another question: is there a way to adjust the mplayer mozplugin buffer?
[03:30] <bob2> vladuz976: put the line I just gave you i nthere
[03:30] <vladuz976> vanberge, can't do that to many
[03:31] <vladuz976> bob2, where in /etc/bash.bashrc
[03:31] <bob2> vladuz976: at the end...
[03:31] <ripgut> i dont understand the instructions on that link
[03:32] <ripgut> there has to be a way to get this to work
[03:32] <bob2> and I'm sure there is
[03:32] <vladuz976> bob2, whats the differnce betweenputting it there or in .bash_profile
[03:32] <ripgut> me too
[03:32] <bob2> I don't see where you explained what was wrong, tho
[03:32] <brenner> anyone? grub boot options...what exactly do 'noapic' and 'nolapic' do? i need to use them to fix a certain problem, but i'd like to know what they're actually disabling
[03:32] <PhoenixP3K> Hello, I'm back with my questions (hope some day I'll be good (skilled) enought to help others
[03:32] <bob2> vladuz976: man bash, INVOCATION explains when each is used
[03:32] <ripgut> ok i downloaded the 2.8.1 ver of gnomad2
[03:32] <ripgut> i extracted it
[03:33] <bob2> brenner: APIC = advanced programmable interrupt controller
[03:33] <ripgut> and "cd'd into that directory
[03:33] <PhoenixP3K> I need to add a program to the Application pannel in Gnome, I have no idea on how to do it
[03:33] <ripgut> now what do i do
[03:33] <bob2> brenner: it's supposed to make interrupt handling faster or something
[03:33] <bob2> ripgut: you read the instructions
[03:33] <bob2> PhoenixP3K: /msg ubotu smeg
[03:33] <ripgut> well, yes
[03:33] <brenner> bob2: cheers...would you know about the lapic one as well?
[03:34] <ripgut> but i gotta get it installed first
[03:34] <ripgut> that is where im stuck at
[03:34] <bimberi> ripgut: look for a README file, and perhaps an INSTALL file (not shouting, they're frequently in caps)
[03:34] <brenner> ripgut: is there a README or INSTALL file?
[03:35] <ripgut> yes the readme gets me to the "./configure" step then i get an error at the end
[03:35] <brenner> ripgut: if you're installing from source, you can probably just use checkinstall to make things real easy
[03:35] <bob2> brenner: local apic
[03:35] <hussam> I need help. I can't connect to security.ubuntu.com this IP http://<IP_ADDRESS> times out
[03:35] <bob2> ripgut: then paste the error to #flood
[03:35] <brenner> ripgut: we need the error. :) usually it means you're missing some libraries
[03:35] <xchess> which release should i go with: 5.04 or 5.10 preview?
[03:35] <bob2> xchess: 5.04
[03:35] <brenner> bob2: thanks again
[03:36] <manji> hey, why does my new ubuntu 5.10 beta install not have `make` on it? isn't this a fairly normal feature!?
[03:36] <ripgut> can someone join me in #flood
[03:36] <manji> appreciate any help
[03:36] <xchess> bob: great, i just installed 5.10 by accident
[03:36] <bob2> hussam: works here, guess it's a problem with your network
[03:36] <xchess> bob: heh
[03:36] <PhoenixP3K> bob2, thx I'll go get that smeg programm
[03:36] <bob2> ripgut: just paste it...
[03:36] <brenner> manji: install build-essential...should be on CD
[03:36] <bob2> manji: install build-essential
[03:36] <xchess> bob2: time to reformat
[03:36] <manji> brenner: bob2: thanks guys
[03:36] <brenner> manji: ubuntu "is" a desktop distro after all....most people won't need it
[03:36] <xchess> bob2: thanks
[03:36] <Zodiac> omg
[03:36] <bob2> brenner: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APIC
[03:36] <bob2> xchess: well, you can leave it
[03:36] <bob2> bah
[03:36] <ripgut> *pasted*
[03:37] <Zodiac> I am upgrading my laptop to breezy as we speak ...
[03:37] <Zodiac> *bites fingernails
[03:37] <brenner> bob2: neat...thanks for googling for me. :D
[03:37] <remyforbes777> anyone use ubuntu 64
[03:37] <benplaut> plenty
[03:37] <benplaut> but not me :P
[03:37] <bob2> brenner: heh, I was curios myself :)
[03:37] <remyforbes777> cant get it to work on my amd 64 laptop
[03:37] <bob2> ripgut: install gnome-devel and build-essential
[03:38] <bob2> remyforbes777: be a lot more specific
[03:38] <ripgut> wahts the cmd for that bob2
[03:38] <moshe> when breezy comes out, do I simply replace every instance of the word "hoary" with the word "breezy," apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:38] <vanberge> has anybody installed quake2 before on ubuntu?  this is my second day struggling with this :-(
[03:38] <othernoob> how much does a computer scientist earn in the US?
[03:38] <benplaut> moshe: from all the "base" repositories, yes
[03:38] <moshe> cool
[03:38] <benplaut> from ones you added, yourself, no
[03:38] <moshe> so easy even I could do it. :)
[03:38] <robotgeek> othernoob: #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[03:39] <othernoob> robotgeek: is there ever any actual talk in offtopic?
[03:39] <robotgeek> othernoob: maybe, maybe not
[03:39] <Razor-X> j #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:39] <bob2> ripgut: how have you installed things in the past?
[03:39] <brenner> bob2: heh...here's my problem if you're curious: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53094
[03:40] <robotgeek> Razor-X: hi, long time!
[03:40] <bob2> vanberge: yes...
[03:40] <ripgut> some
[03:40] <bob2> mombof: wiki/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[03:40] <vanberge> bob2, i feel like a total noob... but i just cannot get this figured out
[03:40] <brenner> bob2: i'm getting 50% at idle (but top shows low usage) and my clock is indeed going too fast
[03:42] <ripgut> ok im installing gnome-devel from synaptic
[03:42] <ripgut> but i cant find Build essentials
[03:42] <Agrajag> you mean build-essentials?
[03:42] <Agrajag> er
[03:42] <ripgut> yea
[03:42] <snausages> ripgut, sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[03:42] <Agrajag> build-essential
[03:42] <Agrajag> no s on the end
[03:42] <ripgut> ok
[03:42] <snausages> err
[03:43] <ripgut> wow 100 files for gnome-devel :|
[03:43] <D1> my kingdom for a working linux scanner! ;[
[03:43] <snausages> thats right, no 's'
[03:43] <ripgut> and im on a 128k downstream connection
[03:43] <ripgut> :(
[03:43] <brenner> ripgut: could be worse...you could be on dialup
[03:44] <ripgut> i know
[03:44] <ripgut> i shouldn't complain either, because i got this zen brand new for free
[03:44] <snausages> what's all required to build stuff from source? i know there's build-essential, the xml parser thing... what else
[03:44] <bob2> snausages: build-essential is enough to compile basic things
[03:45] <cfh_dev> anybody know why amarok is not in breezy?
[03:45] <bob2> things may require other libraries, but there''s no no general list
[03:45] <snausages> i tried to install gaim 1.5 and i was missing a bunch of stuff
[03:45] <crimsun> cfh_dev: it is.
[03:45] <snausages> such as the xml parser
[03:45] <ripgut> man i love linux
[03:45] <bob2> snausages: then you need to install that stuff, too
[03:45] <jtan325> gahhhhhhhhhh i am having the weirdest problem ever. firefox is hanging when i try to load certain websites... gmail works, ubuntuwiki/forums work, lots of things work, but anandtech.com doesn't work, and some other sites seem to trip firefox up
[03:45] <ripgut> i love the headaches it comes with
[03:45] <bob2> snausages: sudo apt-get build-dep gaim would  get most of it
[03:45] <cfh_dev> crimsun: hmm, I switch my repos from hoary to breezy and synaptic wants to remove amarok.  Any thoughts?
[03:45] <snausages> most
[03:45] <crimsun> cfh_dev: you must be using hoary-backports?
[03:46] <jtan325> i've tried reinstalling, upgrading, all that
[03:46] <bob2> Clujo: synaptic/apt won't remove things just because they don't exist in a newer release of your OS
[03:46] <cfh_dev> crimsun: I don't have that in my repos list
[03:46] <Clujo> gotcha , bob2
[03:46] <crimsun> cfh_dev: dpkg -l amarok|grep ^ii
[03:46] <bob2> cfh_dev: did you in the past?
[03:46] <jtan325> i haven't done anything firefox related either, i can't imagine how i messed this up
[03:46] <bob2> er
[03:46] <bob2> Clujo: oops, didn't that for you
[03:46] <cfh_dev> crimsun: nope
[03:46] <Plazma> bob2, i want to personally thank you for the help youve given me, and to others who may not have been so greatful for your help
[03:46] <ripgut> ok, so after i get build-essential and gnome-devel installed i should have no problem installing gnomad2?
[03:46] <Clujo> it was wisdom nevertheless
[03:46] <crimsun> cfh_dev: "nope"?
[03:47] <bob2> heh
[03:47] <bob2> Plazma: heh, np
[03:47] <cfh_dev> crimsun: I didn't have backports in the past
[03:47] <bob2> ripgut: it's a start
[03:47] <cfh_dev> crimsun: dkpg.. => ii  amarok         1.2.3-1ubuntu4
[03:47] <Plazma> bob2, im sure you get it all the time, and not sure what its worth to you , but i felt like it needed to be said
[03:47] <jtan325> anyone have any ideas on how to debug/fix this?
[03:48] <ripgut> i appreciate the help guys, really
[03:48] <dabaR> What is a gui sftp program?
[03:48] <crimsun> cfh_dev: are you dist-upgrading?
[03:48] <bob2> Plazma: I do appreciate it, thanks :)
[03:48] <Nexinarus> yeh thanks bob2 for you're help in the past also
[03:48] <bob2> dabaR: gnome's file manager does that
[03:48] <cfh_dev> crimsun: yes, I think so.  Anywhere that had hoary in the sources.list I've changed to breezy
[03:48] <dabaR> oki.
[03:48] <crimsun> cfh_dev: what's the message regarding apt wanting to remove amarok*?
[03:48] <Plazma> bob2, no problem, you irc guys have caught my interest and even though im not nearly as kowledgable as you or others, i plan on sticking around for a while
[03:49] <cfh_dev> crimsun: synaptic just has that amarok* will be removed.
[03:49] <Nexinarus> hmm when i close my laptop lid, and lift it back up, the screen goes all black
[03:49] <brenner> it's a lovefest in here. :)
[03:49] <ripgut> beep media player is better imo
[03:49] <ripgut> but to each his own :)
[03:49] <bur[n] e1> amarok is awesome... too bad it's qt ;)
[03:49] <Apostols> Saludos
[03:49] <Apostols> Alguien que hable espaol?
[03:49] <hou5ton> anyone know why Ubuntu didn't join Debian Common Core Alliance (DCCA)?
[03:50] <ripgut> yo no habla espanol
[03:50] <bob2> !+es
[03:50] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:50] <bob2> hou5ton: because it hasn't done anything useful yet
[03:50] <Nexinarus> they dont want allies? :p
[03:50] <brenner> Nexinarus: standby maybe?
[03:50] <Nexinarus> maybe.. just can not figure out how to stop it
[03:50] <Nexinarus> or make it go back to the desktop
[03:51] <hou5ton> bob2: that really isn't a good reason ... it's a new organization for a good purpose .... needs people to start it up
[03:51] <Nexinarus> im getting SDL-devel :p
[03:51] <miguel> hello
[03:51] <smurf> no c compiler??? whatever!  ::goes to install it::
[03:52] <bur[n] e1> smurf: get build-essential even
[03:52] <Nexinarus> what are they?
[03:52] <smurf> thanks, you saved me some menu hopping time
[03:52] <geyzer> how is ubuntu as a server and multi-user machine (for remote program compiling, testing etc)
[03:52] <Nexinarus> good for server imo
[03:52] <war-totem> can anyone tell me whats a better/other alternative to nautilus?
[03:53] <brenner> bob2: hang on...i just read that wikipedia link...acpi's to do with intel machines...er, i've got an amd
[03:53] <robotgeek> war-totem: rox-filer
[03:53] <vanberge> bob2, i think i am really close to having quake2 work... but i get the following message:
[03:53] <vanberge> Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
[03:53] <war-totem> thx ill check it out
[03:53] <sn0n> anyone know why gstreamer-ffmpeg is lagging behind ? (and breaking mpg playback in the procesS)
[03:53] <ripgut> i think most linux distros are good for server purposes, linux itself is not a resource hog
[03:54] <geyzer> Nexinarus, ripgut: ok thanks, just wondering if i should change to debian
[03:55] <ripgut> is build -essential a smaller package?
[03:56] <jmg> who maintains ubuntu.com ?
[03:56] <ripgut> me
[03:56] <jmg> the web page
[03:56] <dabaR> ok, well, I have a ssh, and a sftp server on my computer, redundant?
[03:56] <jmg> id like to ask some technical questions :)
[03:56] <ripgut> ask here
[03:56] <jmg> about Plone and moinmoin
[03:57] <jmg> how you got them to work together so convincingly
[03:57] <jtan325> gahhh both epiphany and firefox hang when i try to go to www.anandtech.com
[03:57] <jtan325> but many other sites work
[03:57] <dabaR> jtan325: ping.
[03:57] <jmg> i want to pervasive wikify our intranet
[03:57] <jmg> how cool is that phrase
[03:57] <jmg> i should be a phb
[03:57] <ripgut> im your father
[03:58] <Clujo> ssh is a secure shell to another computer.  sftp is an file transfer util.  different.
[03:58] <jmg> troll
[03:58] <jtan325> dabaR, "ping www.anandtech.com" seems to return nothing
[03:58] <ripgut> my bad
[03:58] <dabaR> jtan, like packets lost?
[03:58] <jtan325> yes
[03:58] <jtan325> pinging google.com and other sites works
[03:58] <dabaR> jtan, site down.
[03:58] <HrdwrBoB> Clujo: sftp is layered on top of ssh
[03:58] <HrdwrBoB> it's the same basic thing
[03:58] <Carpe_Libertatem> What's a good minimal IRC client that will let me have transparent backgrounds?
[03:59] <sn0n> Program received signal SIGFPE, Arithmetic exception.
[03:59] <sn0n> [Switching to Thread -1232757840 (LWP 28224)]
[03:59] <sn0n> 0xb6162d07 in gst_ffmpegdeinterlace_register ()
[03:59] <sn0n>    from /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstffmpeg.so
[03:59] <sn0n> oops..
[03:59] <dabaR> Clujo: well, what then, why say in nautilus, you use ssh as the service type...and in windows, the secure ssh program...it uses ssh to copy files, and so on...whats the deal?
[03:59] <sn0n> sry bout that guys
[03:59] <nfinitep1astik> Carpe_Libertatem: irssi is pretty minimal
[03:59] <dabaR> HrdwrBoB: worked out ok, I did not get in much trouble.
[03:59] <benplaut> Carpe_Libertatem, BitchX, then edit your terminal to be transparent
[03:59] <HrdwrBoB> Carpe_Libertatem: irssi
[03:59] <HrdwrBoB> dabaR: good to hear
[03:59] <HrdwrBoB> benplaut: irssi > bitchx
[03:59] <benplaut> bah :P
[04:00] <Carpe_Libertatem> ty
[04:00] <nfinitep1astik> irssi == terminal based irc client
[04:00] <war-totem> robotgeek, rox-filer is great
[04:00] <jtan325> dabaR, i don't think it's a site down issue though
[04:00] <makkk> does anyone know why i get: 'Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[04:00] <makkk> '?