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[14:38] <tjaalton> LocutusOfBorg: I guess you typoed the vbox package versions for impish? they have '20.10' :)
[14:39] <LocutusOfBorg> LOL
[14:44] <LocutusOfBorg> reject pls
[14:45] <tjaalton> okay
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[14:50] <LocutusOfBorg> ^^
[14:50] <LocutusOfBorg> reuploaded
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[16:22] <coreycb> ubuntu-archive: hello, I have a bug open to remove sqlsoup from the archive if someone can take a look. it should help sqlalchemy excuses for jammy. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-sqlsoup/+bug/1957001
[16:24] <coreycb> sqlalchemy was also blocked on mailman3 not supporting the new version of sqlalchemy but that seems to not be an issue anymore, not sure how that was resolved
[16:25] <vorlon> resolved by removing mailman3
[16:26] <vorlon> anyway, yes will look at the removal
[16:27] <coreycb> vorlon: ah yeah I see that now. thanks, I guess that'll fix it. :)
[16:43] <vorlon> ginggs: "and was removed from Debian testing on 2018-08-31" hnnngh
[17:22] <vorlon> coreycb: so, python-sqlsoup would have already been removed except that the epigrass that drops the dependency is still in -proposed and hasn't migrated
[17:23] <vorlon> coreycb: and that's because the new epigrass requires python3-numba, which was removed because it wasn't ready for python3.10...
[17:24] <vorlon> coreycb: I could remove epigrass from the release pocket and then the rest would sort itself out, but I don't really want to do that until I see some evidence of numba being fixed, given that this was supposed to be a "temporary" removal
[17:26] <vorlon> ginggs: do you know why ubuntu-archive is subscribed to LP: #1946965? I don't see any action there
[17:29] <ginggs> vorlon: seems they were subscribed when d.oko removed the impish version from the archive
[17:50] <vorlon> alrighty, well, unsubscribing now
[18:57] <coreycb> vorlon: seems python3-numba has been removed?
[18:57] <coreycb> vorlon: sorry, I guess it was temporarily removed and should be added back
[19:07] <coreycb> vorlon: it looks like upstream supports py310 now, I'll check with the debian maintainer and see if she has plans to upload a new version
[19:09] <ginggs> coreycb: i believe the new numba needs https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/onetbb uploaded to unstable first
[19:15] <coreycb> ginggs: ok thanks for sharing that
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[22:50] <jbicha> please reject ubuntu-gnome-default-settings from impish; I'll upload a better version later
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[00:15] <jrseliga> Anyone get XDMCP working?
[00:20] <LinDol> hi all
[06:29] <ruchir> hi all :)
[07:43] <Noskcaj> hi ruchir
[08:21] <ruchir> hi Noskcaj
[08:21] <ruchir> :)
[11:06] <LinDol_phone> good evening ^.~
[12:36] <degva> Hello Guys, I'm running UG 14.10 and I've found a bug on nautilus: My tap settings are disabled, but still every time I put my two finger on my touchpad nautilus recognizes it as double click, does anybody have faced this problem before?
[14:16] <ruchir> hi all
[16:59] <degva> Hello Guys, I'm running UG 14.10 and I've found a bug on nautilus: My tap settings are disabled, but still every time I put my two finger on my touchpad nautilus recognizes it as double click, does anybody have faced this problem before?
[16:59] <degva> nobody here?:/
[17:00] <ruchir> well, I'm here, but don't know how to help you.


[04:39] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[11:53] <gamer191> In you folks' opinion, why don't many people use Ubuntu, by comparison to Windows?
[11:54] <gamer191> Sorry, I didn't see the notice above. I'll move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:20] <lotuspsychj3> this one was funny this morning;
[12:20] <lotuspsychj3> sodiumintake> if any1 needs help i am ON it
[12:20] <lotuspsychj3> sodiumintake> i'm on step 6 with job interview of canical now
 Comical?


[00:19] <liuxg> does anyone know how to select a different mirror server in ubuntu core using command. The reason for this is that some of the servers are far away from my region, and the build process is very long. thanks
[00:20] <liuxg> I am now using a ubuntu core device to build a snap.
[05:47] <mup> Bug #1648702 opened: We don't have a network interface that allows only local communication <snapd-interface> <Snappy:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1648702>
[07:03] <mup> Bug #1648712 opened: Whole /etc content from host accessible to the snap <Snappy:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1648712>
[07:49] <FJKong> liuxg: you can edit config file directly
[07:49] <liuxg> FJKong, but it is too much work. do you mean the sources.list file?
[07:50] <liuxg> FJKong, for some of the channels, there could be no correspondence.
[07:52] <FJKong> just %s/a/b/cgi with vim, you can skip some of it, this should be very fast
[07:54] <FJKong> backup before editing, by the way
[08:51] <mup> PR snapd#2442 opened: snap/snapenv: don't obscure HOME if snap uses classic confinement <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2442>
[08:54] <mup> PR snapd#2443 opened: removing circular dependency between snapstate and hookstate <Created by cyberb> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2443>
[08:54] <mup> PR snapd#2444 opened: debian: depend on snap-confine at least 2.19 <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2444>
[09:05] <mup> PR snapd#2445 opened: cmd/snap,tests: alias support in snap run <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2445>
[09:08] <mup> PR snapd#2446 opened: cmd/snap-confine: fix compilation on platforms with gcc < 4.9.0 <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2446>
[09:12] <mup> PR snapd#2447 opened: many: fixes cherry-picked for the 2.19.1 release <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2447>
[09:17] <mup> PR snapd#2428 closed: debian: add dependencies and build rules for snap-confine <Created by zyga> <Closed by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2428>
[10:26] <mup> PR snapd#2446 closed: cmd/snap-confine: fix compilation on platforms with gcc < 4.9.0 <Created by zyga> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2446>
[11:17] <palasso> Hello, I noticed from times to times spam gets through into the snapcraft mailing list. Shall spams be removed from the archive?
[11:18] <palasso> Some include links which I haven't clicked
[11:27] <mup> PR snapd#2435 closed: store: retry assertions <Created by stolowski> <Closed by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2435>
[11:28] <mup> Bug #1648777 opened: writing a (3GB sized) x86 image to a 3GB SD card makes the filesystem resizing being skipped <Snappy:New> <initramfs-tools-ubuntu-core (Ubuntu):Triaged by ogra> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1648777>
[11:29]  * ogra_ loves how filing a bug brings an IRC highlight as freebie every time :P
[11:32] <palasso> Those are some spams I found on the snapcraft mailing list (some of which include links to files) http://pastebin.com/eeXLTfT4
[11:43] <dslul> hello
[11:43] <dslul> has anyone managed to get this tutorial work https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/mir-snaps/ ?
[11:43] <dslul> in particular mir kiosk
[11:43] <dslul> on a virtual machine
[11:43] <dslul> it gives Mir fatal error: Failed to get frontbuffer
[11:44] <dslul> where can I file this bug?
[11:45] <didrocks> dslul: hey, I think kgunn will be interested in your feedback
[11:45] <didrocks> he should show up a little bit later on on this channel
[11:56] <blunden> is there a way to pass environment variables to snap packages? ie. I want to pass PORT and ROOT_URL to a rocket.chat server installed via snap
[11:57] <blunden> but they don't get picked up properly when exported
[11:58] <blunden> I also think the use of PORT is kind of stupid as there is bound to be another application reading that generic variable as well
[11:58] <didrocks> blunden: yeah, environment is stripped. You need to use configure hook for this
[11:58] <blunden> didrocks: is that documented somewhere?
[11:58] <blunden> I'm clearly missing the correct search term when googling :P
[11:59] <didrocks> blunden: well, TBH, the documentation isn't there yet
[11:59] <didrocks> but
[11:59] <didrocks> I have an example!
[11:59] <blunden> that works too :D
[11:59] <didrocks> https://github.com/ubuntu/snow-on-me-snap
[11:59] <didrocks> I've created a very generic configure hook: https://github.com/ubuntu/snow-on-me-snap/blob/master/meta/hooks/configure
[12:00] <didrocks> it enables to set and remove variables that are stored in a file
[12:00] <didrocks> that your app can pick up
[12:00] <didrocks> snap set <snap_name> key=value
[12:00] <didrocks> (/!\ you need to do it on ubuntu core, doesn't work well yet with snapd version on desktop)
[12:01] <didrocks> and a simple nodejs example on watching for a change and picking it up: https://github.com/ubuntu/snow-on-me-snap/blob/master/main.js#L71
[12:01] <blunden> this is on a normal ubuntu server 16.04.1 instance
[12:02] <blunden> so this is something that needs to get upstreamed to the rocket.chat project?
[12:02] <didrocks> yeah, I would suggest that
[12:02] <didrocks> supporting dynamic configuration and such
[12:03] <didrocks> (would be a nice contribution I think :))
[12:03] <blunden> I was hoping for something that I could do right now :)
[12:04] <blunden> I really don't want to bloat up this server with all the cruft their project depends on
[12:05] <didrocks> I don't think there is other way, you can modify their snap as well and build it yourself if you have the source
[12:05] <didrocks> then, a small wrapper watching for the config file
[12:06] <didrocks> once the config file is there, reading it and exporting PORT before exec their service
[12:07] <blunden> ideally they should just read the values from the config file instead of using a bunch of very generically named env variables in my opinion
[12:07] <blunden> thanks for the examples though :)
[12:08] <didrocks> yw! :)
[12:08] <blunden> didrocks: that "snap set" part where you set the port... is that using your hook too?
[12:10] <blunden> ah, it said so above :)
[12:14] <didrocks> blunden: yes :)
[12:14] <blunden> and by "you can only set on of those" you mean that they need to be set one at a time?
[12:15] <didrocks> blunden: no, just setting one from the supported keys in the configure hook
[12:15] <didrocks> so, in that case port and title
[12:15] <didrocks> you can either do:
[12:15] <didrocks> snap set <snap_name> port=4242 title="blablabla"
[12:15] <didrocks> or just
[12:15] <didrocks> snap set <snap_name> port=4242
[12:16] <didrocks> or even snap set <snap_name> port=""
[12:16] <didrocks> which will remove the key from the configuration
[12:16] <blunden> that's not how I read "Of course, you can set only one of those parameters."
[12:16] <blunden> ooh
[12:16] <blunden> nvm
[12:17] <blunden> I misread it
[12:17] <blunden> I basically read it as "Of course, it's only possible to set one of those parameters"
[12:18] <blunden> the sentence is ambiguous
[12:19] <blunden> now that I look at it more, your example looks very nice and generic
[12:20] <blunden> thanks again
[12:23] <didrocks> yw :)
[12:24] <didrocks> blunden: do not hesitate to rephase it (PR accepted), as not being a native speaker here… :)
[12:25] <blunden> ok
[12:26] <blunden> I'm home from work sick so I might just do that
[12:27] <didrocks> oh, hope you're feeling better soon!
[12:27] <didrocks> hoping*
[12:27] <blunden> thanks
[12:46] <blunden> pull request sent :)
[12:52] <didrocks> and merged, thanks!
[12:53] <blunden> np
[13:15] <morphis_> kyrofa: ping
[13:26] <dslul> kgunn, I had problems running mir kiosk, I wrote in private the details
[13:38] <didrocks> ogra_: oh, grub! that starts to all make sense then
[13:38] <ogra_> didrocks, yeah ... but we should still stay in sync with the content ... more worrying is that nobody noticed fuse support missing on all non x86 arches
[13:40] <didrocks> ogra_: well, nobody noticed the libpng which could be popular…
[13:40] <didrocks> ogra_: yeah, that was the point of the bug, to stay in sync :)
[13:41] <ogra_> didrocks, well, for libpng i'D expect most snaps to just ship it inside
[13:48] <didrocks> ogra_: what I did, until snapcraft strips it :p
[13:48] <ogra_> bah
[13:48] <ogra_> evil :)
[13:49] <ogra_> anyway, we got it now :)
[13:51] <kgunn> dslul: just not getting on for the morning, lemme catch up
[14:18] <renato__> popey, hey could you review this, please? https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/ubuntu-docviewer-app/ubunut-app-platform/+merge/312913
[14:20] <jdstrand> ogra_: fyi, I don't know this, but suspect libfuse2 has something to do with lxd
[14:20] <jdstrand> perhaps historically. I don't know
[14:22] <ogra_> jdstrand, you mean thats the reason why grub-common depends on it ?
[14:23] <jdstrand> ogra_: oh, I idn't read your email that way. I didn't realize grub depended on it. ignore me then
[14:23] <ogra_> heh, i didnt either, i just found out before you pinged :)
[14:24] <ogra_> in any case we have core providing the fuse interface by default ... so not having the lib seeded will most likely cause issues on non x86
[14:33] <jdstrand> indeed
[14:34] <mup> PR snapd#2448 opened: Account for trusty-specifics in interfaces <Created by vosst> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2448>
[15:00] <didrocks> ogra_: while you are in those image rebuilding, will it be easy to have i2c enabled in rpi* images gadget snaps?
[15:12] <mup> Bug #1639981 opened: request canceled (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers) <Click Package Index:Confirmed> <Snappy:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1639981>
[15:51] <ogra_> didrocks, i2c is enabled in the gadgets (in config.txt) ...
[15:51] <ogra_> does it not work ?
[15:54] <kyrofa> morphis_, good morning! What's up?
[15:56] <morphis_> ogra_: we need actual i2c slot definitions in the gadget snap.yaml
[15:56] <morphis_> kyrofa: morning!
[15:56] <morphis_> kyrofa: just wanted to find out what the outcome of the snapcraft/hooks meeting was :-)
[15:57] <kyrofa> morphis_, a redesign :P
[15:57] <kyrofa> morphis_, and it was placed behind another feature, which likely bumps it to the next cycle
[15:58] <didrocks> ogra_: snap interfaces didn't show up on my core
[15:58] <didrocks> ogra_: I didn't try since last week though
[15:58] <didrocks> is that recent?
[15:58] <didrocks> or should I reflash?
[16:01] <kyrofa> morphis_, now instead of specifying them in the YAML, you'll place them in the snap/hooks directory, and snapcraft will then generate the actual hooks via wrappers
[16:01] <morphis_> kyrofa: I see, so what would this mean in terms of actual dates
[16:01] <morphis_> next year I guess, right?
[16:02] <kyrofa> morphis_, yeah I'm afraid so
[16:02] <morphis_> hm
[16:21] <ogra_> diddledan, ah, well, it is enabled but there is no iterface, now i get it ... the gadgets didnt change in a while and will only for next stable release
[16:46]  * diddledan laughs maniacally about hijacking messages meant for didrocks
[17:34] <bregma> hey folks I', tryin to evaluate Ubuntu Core on a RasPi2... I can get it to boot but I never get the "Press enter to confiugure" prompt at the end of the boot sequence.  I'm using only the serial port on the Pi, is this supported or is a USB keyboard and HDMI monitor required for first boot?
[18:00] <kyrofa> bregma, probably a question for ogra_ if he's around
[18:03] <ogra_> bregma, serial should work, we enable both consoles by default
[18:03] <ogra_> (and both should show the press enter ... did you wait long enough ?
[18:03] <ogra_> )
[18:18] <mup> PR snapd#2425 closed: store: decode response.Body json inside retry loops <Created by stolowski> <Merged by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2425>
[18:58] <mup> PR snapd#2449 opened: overlord/patch: patch to flag in the state required snaps from model <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2449>
[20:10] <kgunn> morphis: if you're still about...tried pa from the beta channel
[20:10] <kgunn> getting this
[20:10] <kgunn> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23604916/
[20:12] <bregma> ogra_, I've waited for 150 minutes now, still no prompt; I see the serial console enabled in the kernel command line and I see the boot messages, so I suspect the problem is whatever it that's does the first-time setup just can't cope
[20:13] <bregma> it's OK, other distros just let me get work done, so first impression of Ubuntu Core on the Pi2 is "doesn't work, don't bother" and I'll just move on
[20:15] <kyrofa> kgunn, pa doesn't like ACDC-- you didn't know that?
[20:16] <kyrofa> kgunn, do you see any denials from snappy-debug?
[20:16] <kgunn> lemme check
[20:18] <kgunn> kyrofa: ah...that's it...i shoulda checked...
[20:19] <kgunn> reinstalling with --demode
[20:21] <kgunn> well..it seems it's playing someplace but i don't hear it
[20:22] <kgunn> maybe a prob with my vm?
[20:23] <kyrofa> kgunn, still seeing something like this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23604968/
[20:25] <kgunn> kyrofa: after devmode...now looks like this
[20:25] <kgunn> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23604974/
[20:25] <kyrofa> Huh, even in devmode?
[20:25] <kyrofa> Oh wait, allowed, nevermind
[20:30] <kyrofa> kgunn, I assume the previous denial was from the lack of a home interface?
[20:32] <kgunn> that's right, it could access it's home
[20:33] <kgunn> kyrofa: i'm wondering if it's the sound device selected by this vm
[20:33] <kyrofa> kgunn, yeah I wouldn't be surprised. Honestly I'm not sure I've ever tried playing audio in a VM before. KVM?
[20:59] <Guest78889> what basic thing am I missing. I have ubuntu core up and running on a pi3. How do I install nano or samba?
[21:00] <kyrofa> Guest78889, remember that ubuntu core uses snaps, not debs
[21:00] <kyrofa> Guest78889, `snap find nano` shows nano-editor as an option. Have you tried that?
[21:01] <kyrofa> (I have not)
[21:01] <Guest78889> yes I have
[21:01] <Guest78889> it doesn't find it
[21:02] <kyrofa> Guest78889, nano-editor.nano ?
[21:02] <kyrofa> Works for me
[21:02] <Guest78889> when I look at the web page version of the store I can find nano-editor but then download is only amd64
[21:02] <kyrofa> (just tried it)
[21:02] <kyrofa> Oh, I see
[21:03] <kyrofa> Perhaps rws only published an amd64 version, then
[21:03] <Guest78889> seems that way for everything I could think of searching for
[21:03] <Guest78889> so I thought I must be missing something
[21:03] <Guest78889> or is this all just that new
[21:07] <kyrofa> Guest78889, most snaps are provided by developers. Looks like rws build nano on their own amd64 machine instead of multiple architectures
[21:54] <mup> PR snapd#2391 closed: Discard mount namespace on a content i/f plug connect/disconnect <Created by albaguirre> <Closed by albaguirre> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/2391>


[12:57] <Silverlion> hi cprofitt
[13:08] <cprofitt> hey Silverlion
[13:08] <Silverlion> cprofitt: how is your day?
[13:10] <cprofitt> fighting with a backup issue
[13:10] <Silverlion> welcome to the club ;)
[15:03] <Silverlion> re


[00:44] <bsharitt> I have two machines running ubuntu gnome 15.04. One upgraded from 14.04 through 14.10 and the other a clean install. An epiphany install on one has settings under the menu that lets me do thing like enable/disable ads, popups and plugins among other things. The second(the fresh install) does not. I can't think for the life of me what I might have done to make epiphany more useful on the second. Any ideas?
[00:48] <bsharitt> Also private browsing seems to have disappeared on machine 2 compared to 1
[01:57] <stiv2k> darkxst: hi
[14:47] <yoasif> im trying to fill out https://ubuntugnome.org/feedback-time/ and it's asking me to login to google
[14:47] <yoasif> is this by design?
[18:22] <stiv2k> darkxst: hi
[19:06] <dtigue> I've finally got ONE VPN connection working. I set it up in the network manager program, but if I put in specific IP addresses instead of selecting automatic it would fail to connect every time. So I got it to connect by setting ipv4 to automatic, but then I was unable to ping or connect anything on the VPN side. Finally I got it all to work by connecting to the VPN and then in the terminal running 'sudo ip route add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 via 192.168.13
[19:06] <dtigue> .14', but I shouldn't have to do all that. I should be able to insert that info in the IPv4 settings when setting up the VPN. Can anyone help me with this? Or at least point me to the right people to talk to about this issue.
[23:47] <SergioEDuran1> Hello everybody
[23:48] <SergioEDuran1> I havea little but important question
[23:52] <SergioEDuran1> I am installing Ubuntu GNOME on my HDD, I have chosen it over others such as Mint because of the official Ubuntu support but I preffer the Cinnamon desktop,how does Ubuntu GNOME looks with Cinnamon?
[23:56] <SergioEDuran1> the last time I tested Ubuntu GNOME with Cinnamon it has looked ugly,because all the apps with CSDs had menubars instead of their app icon / menu inside of the headerbar


[09:51] <Deckard47> hi everyone!
[18:09] <yiyi> Hi folks, I built an image with cloud-init-21.4 rpm and vmware-iso using Packer 1.7.2 and Centos-8.5.2111. But I couldn't get network up and cloud-init.log shows "No network config applied. Neither a new instance nor datasource network update allowed." Can I get some suggestions on debugging? https://imgur.com/a/praffiC
[20:57] <blackboxsw> falcojr: holmanb if still around I finally put up the prelim PR on JSON schema consolidation based on James' original branch
[20:57] <blackboxsw> https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/1175
[20:59] <blackboxsw> yiyi: if you want your image to seem "clean" and boot fresh, you'd need to run `sudo cloud-init clean --logs` as the last step of your image creation process.
[21:00] <blackboxsw> otherwise cloud-init caches files and semaphores which tells cloud-init that if the instance-id hasn't changed on the system, it won't try to perform any of the tasks it does only once PER_INSTANCE.
[21:23] <holmanb> blackboxsw: taking a look


[04:46] <knix_> I have a major issue with my Thinkpad.  I was trying to suspend it and now my sound will not work, thoughts?
[04:47] <LaserJock> I'd try #ubuntu, I have no idea really.
[04:47] <knix_> I have been trying for a half and hour, ty anyway
[04:48] <LaserJock> sometimes my toshiba loses sound when I come back from hibernation
[04:48] <LaserJock> but I think it's  a hardware thing because it does the same thing in Windows
[04:49] <knix_> im not sure how to get it back without reinstalling
[04:50] <knix_> maybe i should just post in the forums
[04:51] <LaserJock> knix_: yes, or perhaps file a bug
[04:51] <knix_> kk, ty
[06:57] <kenthomson> HELP; I have ubuntu 6.10 installed on BOX-A, i need to setup another computer BOX-B, such that it could netboot (PXE) from BOX-A, without needing any media of its own. I want to make BOX-B boot via LAN(Ethernet)(Cross-connection) from my main BOX. Could you tell me the packages that i would need to setup LTSP?
[06:59] <kenthomson> Anyone willing to help?
[06:59] <Burgundavia> http://edubuntu.org/GettingStarted
[07:00] <kenthomson> Burgundavia, thats it?
[07:01] <Burgundavia> kenthomson: that is the basics
[07:02] <Burgundavia> for box-b, you will need either a nic that network boots or a boot disk
[07:03] <Burgundavia> sorry, have to run now
[07:08] <kenthomson> this channel is generally asleep, could someone please merge it with ubuntu or *buntu, to allow better response
[07:08] <kenthomson> ;-(
[08:30] <Burgundavia> hmm
[12:03] <juliux> hi
[12:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> if (better responce needed); ask elseware; fi
[04:27] <rockprincess> happy easter everyone! :)
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> happy easter rockprincess :)
[04:28] <rockprincess> hello kamping_kaiser :) what are you up to?
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> rockprincess, watching the cricket scoreboard, feeling like stopping and just sleeping ( ;) ), and playing wesnoth
[04:31] <rockprincess> Kamping_Kaiser: hahaa so do i, except for watching cricket and playing wesnoth :)
[04:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> rockprincess, its 00:01 here, i dont think you have that excuse ;)
[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> mind you, i need to suck less if i want to get anyware with wesnoth
[04:34] <rockprincess> Kamping_Kaiser: true, but I am always feeling kind of sleepy after lunch ;) damn habit!
[04:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe. *that* i sympathise with :)
[04:41] <rockprincess> kamping_kaiser: i'd like to call that power napping ;)
[04:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> rockprincess, i'm happy to call it sleep ;)
[04:43] <juliux> happy easter
[04:43] <juliux> has somebody tried to make the chroot system of the ltsp a littlebit smaller?
[04:45] <juliux> an other question can this work ltspserver->wlan->wlantoethernet bridge->client?
[04:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> juliux, if your wlan is fast enough, and your dhcp server/s allow the right options
[04:47] <juliux> Kamping_Kaiser, i have a 54mbit wlan
[04:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> should be easily fast enough for most stuff, as long as it runs at full speed
[04:48] <juliux> cool
[04:50] <juliux> Kamping_Kaiser, any ideas how i can make the ltsp chroot smaller? i only need a minimal system not all the X11 stuff
[04:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> juliux, chroot shouldnt contain any x stuff at all
[04:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, it contains a lot
[04:52] <juliux> Kamping_Kaiser, the chroot is around 340MB
[04:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> juliux, i was working on stripping down clients, but the aim wasnt to have them work after i striped them down. however, if you debfoster out everything short of ubuntu-minimal and ldm, you should be well on the way
[04:53] <juliux> Kamping_Kaiser, thxs
[04:54] <juliux> Kamping_Kaiser, i dont need ldm i only need a terminal;)
[04:55] <juliux> Kamping_Kaiser, my idea is to create a small thinclient as musicbox, to deliver the music to my hifi system
[04:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah, in that case strip it right down :)
[04:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> i was trying to get a minimal client booting as a gateway, didnt get it finished though.
[04:58] <juliux> my first idea was to boot the thinclient via a usb stick but the bios can t boot from usb hdd
[07:38] <terrestre> I receive the edubuntu dappper cd, and yesterday I tried to install but all the cd stop in the middle of the instalation
[07:47] <HedgeMage> terrestre: did you do the "verify CD" option on boot to make sure it is not a damaged CD?
[07:47] <terrestre> good question, the answer its no, I just change the cd every time
[07:48] <HedgeMage> terrestre: when you boot up, make sure to do "verify cd" to make sure the CD is okay... if the CD passes that test, but still stops mid-install, come back and tell us exactly what step it was on when it froze, what hardware you have, and what error message(s) you got
[07:51] <terrestre> ok
[07:51] <terrestre> thanks HedgeMage
[08:18] <terrestre> hi again, I did the check cd error
[08:19] <HedgeMage> I'm sorry, are you saying that the CD had an error in it, or that it wasn't the CD and you are going to tell us the error message so we can try to help?
[08:21] <terrestre> sorry for my english, well its said that its all ok, but im now checking for the other cd, because after the ckeck, and its said that all its ak something funny happend
[08:21] <terrestre> sorry for my english, well its said that its all ok, but im now checking for the other cd, because after the ckeck, and its said that all its ak something funny happend
[08:25] <terrestre> return a messaage that said "weir return 0" and start a loop saying cat:/proc/cmdline      rm unable to remove /lib/unifont.bgf read only file system
[08:25] <terrestre> now the second edubuntu cd, its said its all ok and nothing bad happend, so now im trying to install that cd
[08:33] <terrestre> ok, here is the thing
[08:34] <terrestre> the installation stop exactly in 50% of "Building LTSP chroot"
[08:34] <terrestre> and I was using the cd with perfect integrity
[08:37] <terrestre> any idea?
[08:38] <sbalneav> Morning all
[08:40] <bonbonthejon> morning
[08:45] <terrestre> I have a installation stop exactly in 50% of "Building LTSP chroot" and a cd perfect integrity
[08:45] <terrestre> any idea
[08:46] <sbalneav> It's probably not "stopped"
[08:46] <sbalneav> It doesn't update the counter for a while.  Are you updating from CD or the network?
[08:46] <terrestre> installatino crash actually
[08:46] <terrestre> form a dapper cd
[08:46] <sbalneav> Well,"crash" is different from stopped :)
[08:46] <terrestre> a original
[08:46] <sbalneav> What error message does it give?
[08:46] <terrestre> jajaja now I now
[08:47] <terrestre> none, just a black screen
[08:47] <sbalneav> And how are you trying to build it?  What command are you using?
[08:47] <sbalneav> Can you control-alt-F1 back to another vty?
[08:47] <terrestre> no, just put the cd and go to the intalll optioy
[08:47] <terrestre> mmm i dont tried that
[08:48] <terrestre> let me see
[08:48] <sbalneav> When it's installing the chroot, it can sometimes mess up the display.  It might not be chrashed.
[08:49] <terrestre> thanks man
[08:49] <terrestre> i feel like and idiot
[08:49] <terrestre> jajaja I dont trie the ctrl+alt thing
[08:49] <terrestre> my mistacke
[08:50] <terrestre> nooo, wait
[08:50] <terrestre> now the black screen
[08:51] <terrestre> and no response from ctrl+alt F1....F8
[08:52] <sbalneav> Hmm, so looks like something in the X detection might be messing things up.
[08:53] <terrestre> all the cd give me the same black screen
[08:53] <terrestre> thats a crash or a stop?
[08:53] <terrestre> and no response of the pc
[08:53] <sbalneav> What kind of video card is in the machine?
[08:53] <terrestre> but de caps lock botton can be on off the light
[08:53] <terrestre> intel, i910 its a toshiba laptop
[08:54] <terrestre> so theres no video card :)
[08:54] <terrestre> sorry for my english
[08:55] <sbalneav> I think in the edgy version of edubuntu, they disabled the faulty X detection on the build of the chroot.  So you might have better luck with Edgy.  Apart from that, you might try starting the install in vesa mode.
[08:56] <terrestre> theres still no live cd of edubuntu?
[08:56] <terrestre> do you know were im have to change to vesa? or what command use?
[08:57] <sbalneav> Can you try an edgy cd? Or is dapper all you have?
[08:58] <terrestre> yeah just dapper, I request them and they arrive like a week
[08:59] <sbalneav> Hm.
[08:59] <terrestre> thats why I want to install, first time that I use edubuntu
[08:59] <sbalneav> I'd have to look it up, hold on...
[08:59] <terrestre> thanks
[09:00] <sbalneav> When toy boot up, is there a "safe" graphics mode option on the menu?
[09:00] <terrestre> let me boot
[09:01] <terrestre> loading and
[09:01] <terrestre> install a workstation that the second option
[09:01] <terrestre> no, safe mode
[09:02] <sbalneav> ok, try installing a workstation
[09:03] <terrestre> o right
[09:03] <sbalneav> Seeing as how it's the ltsp chroot that's failing.
[09:03] <sbalneav> If you need it, you can always install it later
[09:03] <sbalneav> Are you going to be booting thin clients off your laptop?
[09:04] <terrestre> sorry i dont understand your question
[09:05] <sbalneav> Edubuntu can boot diskless clients from it, like in a classroom.  Are you planning on doing that from your laptop?
[09:05] <terrestre> ooh no right now
[09:06] <terrestre> its for my personal use this laptop
[09:06] <sbalneav> ok, then a workstation installation should be fine.
[09:07] <terrestre> sbalneav, so, with one pc i can "give" edubuntu to other pc in a network?
[09:07] <terrestre> or Im understand wrong?
[09:08] <sbalneav> Yep.  You can boot multiple thin clients off of one edubuntu machine.
[09:08] <sbalneav> http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/handbook/C/
[09:08] <terrestre> that can be do it whit all ubuntu?
[09:08] <terrestre> thanks
[09:09] <sbalneav> This is for the most recent edubuntu (feisty), but most of the information should be the same.
[09:09] <terrestre> maybe I gonna try feisty, too
[09:09] <terrestre> but I dont have any cd right now
[09:10] <sbalneav> You're in Chile?
[09:10] <sbalneav> Going to FISL 8.0?
[09:10] <sbalneav> In Brazil?
[09:10] <terrestre> Cihle
[09:10] <terrestre> Chile
[09:11] <terrestre> thats my country
[09:11] <sbalneav> Are you planning on attending FISL?
[09:11] <terrestre> i dont even know what its that
[09:12] <sbalneav> http://fisl.softwarelivre.org/8.0/www/
[09:12] <terrestre> Feria Internacional software Libre
[09:12] <sbalneav> I'll be there next week.
[09:13] <terrestre> really?
[09:13] <terrestre> where are you from?
[09:13] <sbalneav> yep
[09:13] <sbalneav> Canada
[09:13] <sbalneav> Winnipeg, Manitoba, to be exact
[09:13] <terrestre> do you travel?
[09:13] <terrestre> sorry my english
[09:14] <terrestre> canada ---> brasil ---> chile?
[09:14] <sbalneav> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=winnipeg&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=12&ll=49.883575,-97.148666&spn=0.106405,0.317917&om=1&iwloc=addr
[09:14] <terrestre> this pc its a slow to open web
[09:14] <terrestre> so im now in the first link
[09:15] <sbalneav> I'm flying from Canada to Brazil.  But lots of people from all over South America come to fisl.  Chile, Argentina, etc.
[09:15] <terrestre> ooh
[09:16] <terrestre> well im 27 years old but im still a student so i dont have the money to fly
[09:17] <sbalneav> What are you studying?
[09:17] <terrestre> techinical informatics
[09:18] <sbalneav> Sounds great
[09:18] <terrestre> but its stuff like put toguether a LAN and hardware stuff
[09:18] <terrestre> but for some reason I start in linux for a year now
[09:20] <terrestre> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=winnipeg&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=12&ll=49.883575,-97.148666&spn=0.106405,0.317917&om=1&iwloc=addr <----- heres my city, i dont know if you can see anything
[09:24] <terrestre> all seems ok , so im still waiting
[09:24] <sbalneav> That's still winnipeg :)
[09:24] <terrestre> jajajaja
[09:24] <terrestre> sorry
[09:24] <sbalneav> You need to click in "link to ths page" :)
[09:24] <terrestre> well my city call antofagasta
[09:25] <terrestre> jaja i now, my fault
[09:25] <terrestre> antofagasta, norht of chile
[09:25] <terrestre> north
[09:25] <sbalneav> Ah, coastal city
[09:25] <terrestre> yeah
[09:25] <sbalneav> Sunsets must be beautiful
[09:26] <terrestre> yeah, and with 2 dyas of rain in the year
[09:26] <terrestre> its  a sunny city
[09:27] <terrestre> sbalneav, you know, all goes well and now the black screen
[09:27] <terrestre> maybe I have to download a different version
[09:27] <sbalneav> What does it do right before the black screen?
[09:27] <sbalneav> lets try this
[09:28] <sbalneav> Lets add the noacpi option
[09:28] <sbalneav> see if that helps
[09:28] <terrestre> ok, but how?
[09:29] <terrestre> sorry for take out your time
[09:29] <sbalneav> k, lets go to the boot screen
[09:29] <sbalneav> and on "workstation installation", instead of hitting "enter", hit "e" to edit the boot parameters
[09:29] <terrestre> aah ok
[09:30] <terrestre> im rebooting
[09:31] <terrestre> nothing happend with e
[09:31] <terrestre> but I tried with F6
[09:31] <terrestre> and a see de boot secuence
[09:31] <terrestre> I see
[09:31] <terrestre> Boot Options z ramdis-size=16384 root=/dev/ram rw quiet --
[09:32] <terrestre> its that ok?
[09:33] <sbalneav> ok, after "quiet", add:
[09:33] <sbalneav> acpi=off
[09:33] <sbalneav> so it should look like:
[09:33] <sbalneav> ... rw quiet acpi=off --
[09:33] <sbalneav> then do a "b" for boot
[09:34] <sbalneav> lets see of that gets any farther
[09:34] <terrestre> okidoki
[09:36] <terrestre> here we go again
[09:39] <terrestre> do you work whit computers?
[09:39] <sbalneav> Yup
[09:40] <sbalneav> I'm the sysadmin for Legal Aid Manitoba
[09:40] <sbalneav> I'm also an LTSP developer
[09:40] <sbalneav> And a contributor to Edubuntu :)
[09:40] <terrestre> ooh that graet
[09:40] <terrestre> thtas great
[09:41] <terrestre> Legal Aid Manitoba exists to help people - individuals and groups - who need a lawyer but who cannot afford to pay for one
[09:41] <terrestre> nice organization
[09:42] <sbalneav> We try :)
[09:42] <terrestre> do you a developter of LTSP haha just in the place that I have the problem
[09:43] <terrestre> here wee go
[09:43] <terrestre> configuring apt
[09:44] <__Serge__> Hi
[09:44] <terrestre> hi
[09:44] <__Serge__> I'd like to make you a question...
[09:44] <terrestre> go ahead
[09:45] <__Serge__> Do u know how to install ubuntu? How can i install it in the "standard" way?
[09:45] <__Serge__> it has a lot of options...
[09:45] <__Serge__> i tryed, ut it didn't work very well... so i installed windows again...
[09:45] <terrestre> what version of ubuntu?
[09:46] <__Serge__> (hablas espaol?)
[09:46] <terrestre> actually i dont spealk english
[09:46] <terrestre> jajaja
[09:46] <terrestre> go tu #kubuntu-es
[09:46] <terrestre> to
[09:46] <__Serge__> espera
[09:46] <__Serge__> entonces hablemos espaool... : p
[09:46] <__Serge__> la version es la 5.04
[09:47] <merriam> Ubuntu has come a long way since 5.04.
[09:47] <terrestre> es q aca no se puede
[09:47] <terrestre> por eso te di la otra direccion
[09:47] <__Serge__> ok.
[09:47] <terrestre> yeah
[09:48] <terrestre> ooh yeah
[09:48] <terrestre> sbalneav, settinge lenaguage package
[09:48] <sbalneav> getting farther?
[09:49] <terrestre> now writing extended stat information, i dont know why every time try to connect to dhcp
[09:49] <terrestre> i dont have dhcp, and i not activate
[09:49] <merriam> __Serge__: I recommend waiting for the release of 7.04.
[09:50] <__Serge__> i see...
[09:50] <__Serge__> but when it will be launched?
[09:50] <sbalneav> It always tries to set the IP address by dhcp
[09:51] <merriam> probably the 19th.  http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28distribuci%C3%B3n_Linux%29#Lanzamientos
[09:55] <terrestre> sbalneav, unpacking debs,
[09:55] <terrestre> jojojo
[09:56] <sbalneav> Good, seems that did tickhe tr
[09:56] <sbalneav> Whoops, darned touchpad
[09:56] <sbalneav> that did the trick
[09:56] <terrestre> darned? haha i dont know that word
[09:59] <sbalneav> Polite substitute for a swear word :)
[09:59] <terrestre> oooh
[09:59] <terrestre> jajajaja
[10:00] <terrestre> unpaking openoffice, its loonk nice
[10:00] <terrestre> jajajja
[10:02] <terrestre> sbalneav, im give up
[10:02] <terrestre> the black screen
[10:02] <terrestre> so im go to download and install other day
[10:03] <sbalneav> Hm
[10:03] <sbalneav> Well, it got farther this time.
[10:03] <terrestre> mmm im five 2 cd to some friends
[10:03] <terrestre> give
[10:03] <terrestre> im gonna ask them if them can install it
[10:03] <sbalneav> You might want to check and see if there's any BIOS updates for your laptop
[10:03] <terrestre> thats could help?
[10:04] <sbalneav> This sort of random lockup is sometimes because of a buggy bios.
[10:04] <terrestre> oooh
[10:04] <terrestre> but kubuntu, ubuntu, its ok
[10:04] <sbalneav> I had a motherboard that wouldn't install Ubuntu, a bios update fixed it.
[10:04] <terrestre> thats no mean anything?
[10:04] <sbalneav> Oh, Ubuntu installs?
[10:04] <terrestre> yeah
[10:04] <sbalneav> Oh, easy then.
[10:04] <sbalneav> Install ubuntu
[10:04] <sbalneav> Then:
[10:04] <terrestre> its kubuntu installed
[10:05] <sbalneav> apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <terrestre> actually im using it
[10:05] <sbalneav> instant Edubuntu machine :)
[10:05] <terrestre> jajjaja
[10:05] <terrestre> yeah thats true
[10:05] <terrestre> but that always give me library problem later
[10:05] <sbalneav> But check the bios thing too.
[10:05] <sbalneav> Shouldn't
[10:05] <terrestre> ubuntu in server mode?
[10:06] <terrestre> with no grapigh and then edubuntu
[10:06] <terrestre> or better with gnome and then edubuntu?
[10:07] <sbalneav> Stock Ubuntu (gnome), and then upgrade to Edubuntu would be a bit faster, I think
[10:08] <terrestre> thanks
[10:08] <terrestre> im really apreciate your pacience
[10:09] <terrestre> jaja here my ubuntu edgy cd, now on feisty in kubuntu, here we go, edubuntu
[10:19] <terrestre> sbalneav, now installing, now i go to launch, eat... just one more quiestion, its a good thing use the same swap for 2 dostros, in this case kubuntu feisty and edubuntu edgy or better a swap for each one
[10:19] <sbalneav> Shouldn't matter.  Swap format hasn't changed for a long time.
[10:21] <LaserJock> sbalneav: do you have an account on ubuntuforums.org?
[10:21] <terrestre> some one tell me that if we are hibernating in kubuntu and then we reboot in to edubuntu , if we use the same swapp for both then were lost de hibernate
[10:22] <sbalneav> LaserJock: Ummm, I think so, hold on, let me see if I can log in.
[10:22] <sbalneav> yep I do
[10:23] <sbalneav> terrestre: Ah, well, that may be
[10:23] <sbalneav> I never hibernate.
[10:23] <terrestre> jajaja
[10:23] <terrestre> thats a good solution
[10:23] <terrestre> bye bye
[10:23] <sbalneav> cya
[10:24] <LaserJock> sbalneav: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=404529
[10:24] <sbalneav> Ah, ok
[10:24] <sbalneav> I'll look into it.
[10:24] <LaserJock> I don't have enough expertise there
[10:28] <sbalneav> I don't think he's even got LTSP installed yet, from the look of it.
[10:29] <sbalneav> I've pointed him at the install for that.
[10:31] <LaserJock> yeah, I just don't know how installation of LTSP from Ubuntu is now
[11:08] <__Serge__> Hi
[11:08] <__Serge__> I have a question...
[12:04] <Burgundavia> sbalneav: is there a good list of ltsp improvements in Feisty
[12:04] <Burgundavia> ?
[12:04] <sbalneav> Umm, I don't think anyone's written down a list.
[12:04] <Burgundavia> hmm
[12:04] <LaserJock> "It's just Better, Stupid" ?
[12:05] <LaserJock> that kind of question comes up a lot
[12:05] <LaserJock> people asking for a changelog
[12:06] <LaserJock> seems like it'd be helpful to come up with some sort of easy way to generate one
[12:07] <Burgundavia> yep
[12:07] <Burgundavia> well, there is tcm
[12:10] <ajmitch> LaserJock: it's Release Note time! :)
[12:10] <Burgundavia> we need good notes


[00:23] <jjfrv8> bluesabre, you about?
[01:16] <knome> hey jjfrv8 :)
[10:37] <bluesabre> jjfrv8: what's up?
[12:50] <jjfrv8> bluesabre, I was trying to test menulibre and lightdm-gtk-greeter. I enabled trusty-proposed and updated, but the new versions did not show up.
[12:50] <jjfrv8> I'm probably doing something stupid.
[13:46] <brainwash> jjfrv8: strange, nothing in -proposed yet
[13:47] <brainwash> maybe something got stuck
[22:56] <bluesabre> :\
[23:04] <bluesabre> micahg? ^
[23:05] <bluesabre> looks like menulibre and lightdm-gtk-greeter are not available in trusty-proposed... is there something else that needs to be done?
[23:44] <bluesabre> ochosi: let me know your thoughts, but I think this will also be required for 14.04.1, https://code.launchpad.net/~smd-seandavis/xubuntu-default-settings/disable-logind-lid-switch/+merge/226621
[23:45] <ali1234> bluesabre: the new monitor thing works perfectly
[23:45] <bluesabre> ali1234: glad to hear it :D
[23:45] <ali1234> it's still missing features which would enable me to use it though: can't set arbitrary positions, and can't set the primary monitor
[23:46] <bluesabre> arbitrary positions, like monitors overlapping each other, or being completely separate?
[23:47] <ali1234> yes, or not aligned at the top
[23:47] <ali1234> it draws my current layout correctly though
[23:48] <bluesabre> hm, they shouldn't have to be aligned at the top, but there is some snapping that happens.  Might be easier to adjust if you increase the window size
[23:48] <bluesabre> primary monitor might be a good thing for me to add next
[23:48] <ali1234> oh, i should be able to drag and drop the monitor graphics?
[23:49] <ali1234> because i can't
[23:49] <ali1234> oh jeez now it exploded
[23:49] <bluesabre> :O
[23:49] <ali1234> i do require overlapping as well :)
[23:49] <bluesabre> yeah, drag-n-drop should work, it does prevent overlapping :(
[23:49] <ali1234> my layout before i tried to change anything: http://imgur.com/bzX7f0l
[23:50] <bluesabre> I see
[23:50] <ali1234> after i clicked around on the monitors, it all snapped out to not overlap
[23:50] <ali1234> i can drag and drop the samsung into that position though, so that's good
[23:50] <bluesabre> yeah, good thing we added an apply button :|
[23:51] <ali1234> bottom alignment is sometimes off by one pixel, like the screenshot. however, nvidia settings also does this
[23:51] <ali1234> this is definitely a massive improvement anyway
[23:52] <bluesabre> ok, good to know
[23:57] <ali1234> (the bottom misalignment is just cosmetic)


[08:11] <intelikey> anyone in here awake ?
[08:12] <intelikey> i have a dapper that don't know how to mount the root fs
[08:13] <intelikey> it's  an scsi drive  sda1  ext2    i did a server-install of hoary then upgraded to dapper and now the initrd.img just drops me into the busybox shell in the ramfs   error is   cant mount /
[08:16] <intelikey> i used mknod /dev/sda1 b 8 1 ;modprobe aci7xxx ;modprobe ext2 ;mount /dev/sda1 /root -t ext2     ran the init script rcS     and then exited the shell and it booted..... but i cant do that at each boot.....
[08:16] <intelikey> anyone ?


[10:05] <hitlin37> ah, my script was missing file permission, hence the job exited. my bad.
[10:17] <athan> Hmm... `init-checkconf foo.conf` is telling me there's a syntax error, but no line number :\ http://lpaste.net/119297
[13:40] <pv2b> I have an ubuntu 10.04 LTS server that i'm having an annoying issue on. I have a service for a Digi Realport (serial over ethernet) that need to start before tomcat starts, otherwise the application doesn't find the serial port and goes all sad on me. both tomcat6 and dgrp_daemon seem to be using init.d scripts rather than upstart jobs, but upstart is in use on the server. So I'm a bit confused
[13:40] <pv2b> as to what tool I should be using changing this with. i tried editing the tomcat startup script to loop until the serial port comes up, but that just causes an excellent deadlock on boot since the driver seems to be started after tomcat.
[13:47] <pv2b> :q
[22:42] <MFen> hi folks
[22:43] <MFen> i'm having some issues understanding the flow of events. i'm trying to schedule one job to happen just before another job
[22:43] <MFen> the main job is in backup.conf. There is a separate job, aorta-db-export. it must run first.
[22:44] <MFen> at the top of aorta-db-export i have: start on (starting backup)
[22:44] <MFen> but, it doesn't.
[22:50] <MFen> i can start backup using either initctl or service
[22:50] <MFen> it runs, successfully
[22:50] <MFen> but never does aorta-db-export get triggered to start
[22:51] <MFen> i'm using upstart 1.12.1 in ubuntu 14.04
[22:53] <MFen> would i be better off rearranging things in the other direction? i don't really care for that because i might want to attach other things prior to backups running
[22:53] <MFen> in that scenario i think i want "start on aorta-db-export" in backup? but i need backup to run only when aorta-db-export *completes*
[23:06] <JanC> start on starting backup is right AFAIK
[23:07] <JanC> but then aorta-db-export needs to be a task
[23:41] <MFen> yes, it's a task. i figured it out, sorry i didn't update
[23:42] <MFen> aorta-db-export.conf was malformatted so it wasn't being read
[23:42] <JanC> :)
[23:42] <MFen> thanks :)
[23:42] <JanC> you can check for that
[23:42] <MFen> o?
[23:43] <MFen> that sounds like something useful to have in my server test scripts...
[23:43] <JanC> init-checkconf
[23:44] <JanC> that should be able to find malformed .conf files
[23:45] <MFen> yep, that sounds awesome to me. gonna add that, thanks :)
[23:45] <JanC> :)
[23:54] <athan> Upstart keeps making my web server reset :\ how would I start testing?
[23:54] <athan> It's weird, when I invoke the executable myself, everything is fine - it's only when used as an upstart job :S
[23:55] <athan> http://lpaste.net/119354 <- forany interested. interested


[03:57] <AmericanBlend> ok so there is a suspection mumble client in 16.04 is vulnerable so a maliscious server can use the client as a backdoor
[03:57] <bazhang> AmericanBlend, hi
[03:57] <AmericanBlend> hi
[03:57] <bazhang> AmericanBlend, do you have any evidence of that at all
[03:57] <AmericanBlend> no
[03:58] <bazhang> AmericanBlend, then why would you say that
[03:58] <AmericanBlend> because i'm making a conversation with a group of people and they seem to know hwat music i'm listeinng to at this moment for instance
[03:58] <AmericanBlend> which means they have accesss to my passwords all other data, etc
[03:59] <bazhang> encrypted VoIP client
[03:59] <AmericanBlend> i know what mumble is
[03:59] <bazhang> AmericanBlend, they hear you talking, right?
[03:59] <AmericanBlend> yes
[04:00] <bazhang> AmericanBlend, so whatever music is there, they can hear that too
[04:00] <AmericanBlend> i have an impression they know about this conversation as well
[04:00] <AmericanBlend> i think they can see it like a feed rather than direct stream
[04:00] <AmericanBlend> because my network bandnwith is resonably low
[04:01] <AmericanBlend> anyways, i'm out to bed for now
[04:01] <bazhang> AmericanBlend, you are free to suspect whatever you think is the case; however please don't speculate in the support channel
[04:02] <bazhang> AmericanBlend, is that clear?
[04:02] <AmericanBlend> yes
[04:04] <bazhang> AmericanBlend, then thank you for joining here to clear up that #ubuntu is for support only, not guessing whatever software might be spying on you
[20:26] <knome> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots/Plugins is very happily broken
[20:26] <knome> i ended up there because !install should say DVD (or optical media), not CD
[20:26] <knome> but i can't remember how to use the sed thingy
[20:26] <knome> !install
[20:27] <knome> Unit193, hello! ^
[20:28] <Flannel> !install ~= s/CD/disc/
[20:28] <Flannel> !install
[20:28] <Flannel> !-install
[20:28] <Flannel> !installing ~= s/CD/disc/
[20:28] <knome> great...
[20:28] <Flannel> !install
[20:29] <Flannel> IS there a better link instead of that tinyurl?
[20:30] <knome> no idea :)
[20:30] <knome> the target url doesn't have too much content so it shouldn't be too time consuming to make a simple tutorial based on it on the ubuntu wiki
[20:30] <Flannel> Eh, I'd argue the first link includes how to install without a CD already.
[20:30] <knome> it's possible
[20:31] <knome> the "CD" part just got my attention :P
[20:31] <Flannel> !installation ~= s/ll - .*? ghs -/ll -/
[20:31] <Flannel> bummer.
[20:32] <Flannel> oh right, space.
[20:32] <knome> and installing, not installation
[20:32] <Flannel> !installation ~= s/ll - .*?ghs -/ll -/
[20:32] <Flannel> that's.... another thing.
[20:32] <Flannel> !installing ~= s/ll - .*?ghs -/ll -/
[20:32] <Flannel> !install
[20:32] <Flannel> Oh good, I didn
[20:32] <Flannel> didn't break it.
[20:34] <knome> anyway, thanks :)
[20:35] <knome> next up is fixing the wiki page, but we can leave it for Unit193, he loves wikis
[20:35] <knome> especially the ubuntu wiki
[20:49] <valorie> good to know!
[20:49]  * valorie offloads all her wiki work to Unit193
[22:56] <Unit193> knome: I turned the old, long gone ubottu wiki page into a doc on it, actually.