[06:36] <Jordan_U> frying_fish, If you don't have a given codec needed to play a file the codec will be automatically installed when you try to play it
[06:36] <mc44> Jordan_U: I heard there might be a workaround but I couldnt find a good one. Changing to non-Xv rendering also works
[06:37] <mc44> but will make things slow
[06:37] <Jordan_U> mc44, How would I change to non-Xv rendering?
[06:37] <frying_fish> Jordan_U: well this is where the brilliance of vlc comes in, it just uses ffmpeg which covers every codec around really (and a couple of other libs) so you won't really find the case of "I don't have X codec"
[06:37] <fritsch> Jordan_U: mplayer -vo x11 video.avi
[06:37] <cypherdelic> Everyone: To run Wengophone 2.1 you need to copy following 32Bit libraries from http://ubuntu.packages.com/ to /usr/lib32: libFLAC7, libgcrypt11, libgpg-error0, DONT COPY THE SYMLINKS
[06:37] <Jordan_U> frying_fish, I know, it's just a fun feature to show off.
[06:38] <cypherdelic> please add this libs to repo
[06:38] <mc44> Jordan_U: its a gnome dialog which is hidden, gimme  a sec
[06:38] <frying_fish> cypherdelic: you would need to place that as a bug on launchpad really
[06:38] <frying_fish> asking on irc isn't going to get it done
[06:38] <dystopianray> frying_fish: xine and mplayer use ffmpeg too and gstreamer can also use it
[06:38] <cypherdelic> im not experienced with that, would you do this please?
[06:38] <cypherdelic> frying_fish:
[06:39] <mc44> Jordan_U: gstreamer-properties
[06:39] <Jordan_U> mc44, Thanks
[06:41] <kane77> hey all!
[06:42] <kane77> i just have new kernel available.. is it trouble free? (it's 15.27)
[06:42] <dystopianray> kane77: should be fine
[06:43] <kane77> okay, I'm updating, if I'm not back call the police :D
[06:45] <hylje> :o
[07:01] <RedRose> how can i have ubuntu automount a partition? Such as my windows partition?
[07:02] <davisc> RedRose: Add a line to your /etc/fstab
[07:03] <mc44> !fstab
[07:03] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:03] <kane77> I'm here! it works :)
[07:05] <RedRose> !Partitions
[07:05] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:12] <cypherdelic> Deadline for Kernel Fixes is 23.4, right?
[07:12] <ROnewbie> crimsun: hi crimsun, do you have 5 minutes ?
[07:13] <cypherdelic> Will there be a 2.6.21 kernel update for feisty before 23.4????
[07:13] <mc44> cypherdelic: there almost certainly wont be a new kernel before release
[07:14] <bricas> I'm having a rather strange problem with tomcat 5.5 -- the service says it has started, but when i try to get to it via http://localhost:8080/ (i've set it to 8080 in the config) -- nothing responds. In fact, the only way i could make it respond was to do sudo cat /var/log/timcat5.5/catalina.out a couple of times until it spit out some info.
[07:14] <dystopianray> cypherdelic: feisty does not have 2.6.21
[07:14] <compengi> how is the preparation for the release after 3 days going?
[07:14] <cypherdelic> dystopianray: damn, it got nice fixes for notebooks, suspend  and hibernation
[07:15] <dystopianray> cypherdelic: ubuntu does not use vanilla kernels straight from kernel.org, they are heavily patched
[07:15] <dystopianray> cypherdelic: ubuntu's kernel has many fixes from 2.6.21 in it
[07:16] <cypherdelic> dystopianray: thanks, i didnt know that
[07:16] <bricas> i guess this bug is what i'm getting: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomcat5.5/+bug/97096
[07:16] <ubotu> Malone bug 97096 in tomcat5.5 "tomcat5.5 won't start b/c of catalina.out named pipe" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[07:19] <coz_> any work around for boot error     /bin/sh: can't access TTY; job control turned off
[07:25] <Kevlar_Soul>  They found a picture of the VT shooter http://i11.tinypic.com/2ue02mo.jpg
[07:25] <Kevlar_Soul> :D
[07:26] <mc44> !offtopic | Kevlar_Soul
[07:26] <ubotu> Kevlar_Soul: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:26] <minimec> Ronald: Still in the room? ;) Got something for you: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/107046
[07:27] <ubotu> Malone bug 107046 in totem "totem-gstreamer 'streaming' problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[07:40] <Ronald> minimec: looking
[07:41] <minimec> Ronald: Just got a second one. Ubotu will be telling you soon, as I see.
[07:42] <Ronald> minimec: i had much less output on console
[07:42] <Ronald> same otherwise
[07:42] <Ronald> or cnn is different ?
[07:43] <minimec> Ronald: Well you have two examples here ... www.tagesschau.de and www.cnn.com
[07:47] <minimec> Ronald: The 2ns one is this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/107051
[07:47] <ubotu> Malone bug 107051 in totem "totem-mozilla (dynamic link problem)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[07:51] <CapaH> Is there anything I will not get if I upgrade to Feisty Fawn before the official release, or is it safe to do so now?
[07:51] <CapaH> i.e. any reason why the full release is better than what I could get todfay
[07:52] <aaroncampbell> Does Alien have a website somewhere?  I'm finding all sorts of references to it, but no official site via Google
[07:52] <dystopianray_> CapaH: update from edgy you mean?
[07:52] <BluesKaj> CapaH, good question ...the beta release is upposed to automatically give the option to install the Official Release AFAIK
[07:52] <BluesKaj> supposed to
[07:53] <dystopianray_> CapaH: all features have been final for a while, only critical bug fixes will go in before the final
[07:53] <zaggynl> anyone gotten half life to work with wine in feisty?
[07:53] <dystopianray_> zaggynl: half life 1 or 2?
[07:53] <zaggynl> 1
[07:54] <dystopianray_> zaggynl: it should just work, that is a really old quake engine game
[07:54] <zaggynl> meh
[07:54] <dystopianray_> zaggynl: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=8
[07:54] <psiscape> I have a simular question as CapaH, if I download the RC daily build and install it, will I be able to distro upgrade to the final in 3 days?
[07:55] <dystopianray_> CapaH: if you are going to install feisty, i recommend getting one of the daily snapshot livecds and instalilng with that
[07:55] <dystopianray_> psiscape: yes you will
[07:55] <CapaH> dystopianray_: URL?
[07:55] <dystopianray_> CapaH: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[07:55] <shirish> dystopianray_: I have made a detailed post at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2463091 asking about how to use postfix+reportbug , At some point can u take a look at it? Let's say within a day or two?
[07:55] <dystopianray_> shirish: well i can look now
[07:55] <shirish> dystopianray_: correction asking about how to
[07:56] <shirish> dystopianray_: sure
[07:56] <psiscape> will there be a utility to do it?  or will I use apt-get upgrade distro to do it?
[07:56] <CapaH> Is the difference between Edgy and Feisty a large difference, is it really noticable? What areas are most improved?
[07:57] <dystopianray_> psiscape: apt-get dist-upgrade will do
[07:57] <psiscape> ah
[07:57] <psiscape> capah, from the beta, it seems like a pretty large difference, lots of new config utilities
[07:57] <dystopianray_> psiscape: can upgrade from the beta, any herd release or edgy to feisty
[07:57] <psiscape> I use kubuntu though, and I don't see hardly any difference there
[07:58] <dystopianray_> CapaH: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/feistybeta
[07:58] <dystopianray_> CapaH: that goes over the main new features for ubuntu
[07:58] <Nicke> What's the best way to get the nvidia graphic driver to work under Xen?
[07:59] <dystopianray_> Nicke: I don't think it's possible
[07:59] <psiscape> I fried my HD trying to install an "unofficial" version of MacOSX :D  it wiped all my partitions, so I just threw winxp on here and was waiting for the final to come out.  LOL
[07:59] <Nicke> dystopianray_: okey
[07:59] <dystopianray_> Nicke: only nvidia can make it compatible
[07:59] <psiscape> I can't take this MS crap anymore... gotta get Linux back on here
[07:59] <Nicke> I see
[08:00] <Lin> who/how is created the file /var/run/network/ifstate?
[08:00] <Nicke> dystopianray_: I was wondering since there are an linux-restricted-modules package for xen in the repos, that says that it includes 'nvidia'
[08:00] <dystopianray_> Nicke: well it might be possible, I don't know
[08:00] <Nicke> dystopianray_: But it has an unmet dependency, and is for the wrong kernel version
[08:00] <Nicke> okey
[08:01] <psiscape> are most of the broken packages for feisty fixed in the repos yet?
[08:01] <Nicke> I will try some more later on then, if I get the time.. thanks anyway : )
[08:01] <psiscape> a couple of months ago, when I had Hurd 5, 1/2 the packages were broken
[08:01] <dystopianray_> psiscape: should be, only release critical changes are being made
[08:02] <psiscape> is it true beryl/compiz is now in the repos?
[08:02] <dystopianray_> psiscape: yes
[08:02] <psiscape> because it was a B*tch compiling them from svn
[08:02] <dystopianray_> psiscape: compiz is installed with ubuntu by default but you must enable it manually and have AIGLX support
[08:03] <psiscape> yeah, I messed with my xorg.conf so much that isn't even a prob LOL
[08:03] <dystopianray_> psiscape: what video card do you have?
[08:03] <psiscape> gForce 7950 GT OC
[08:04] <sioux> !cnr
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cnr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <vio> great update guys :)
[08:04] <psiscape> it's a nice card
[08:04] <vio> finally no more anoying log-in sound :DD
[08:04] <sioux> how can I install cnr in ubuntu?
[08:04] <dystopianray_> psiscape: yes it is, should almost work by default for AIGLX, only a couple of additions to xorg.conf
[08:04] <shirish> dystopianray_: lemme know if you find out something better at the forum rather than here so perhaps I can add it l8ter to the wiki (giving proper accreditation of course) :)
[08:05] <dystopianray_> shirish: why not just use launchpad from your browser for reporting bugs?
[08:05] <psiscape> the Proprietary Drivers util doesn't recognise my card though
[08:05] <psiscape> I have to manually install the drivers
[08:05] <dystopianray_> psiscape: forget the util thing
[08:05] <crdlb> psiscape, be sure to install nvidia-glx-new
[08:05] <dystopianray_> psiscape: just install nvidia-glx-new
[08:05] <psiscape> i get the newest beta drivers from Nvidia directly
[08:06] <dystopianray_> psiscape: feisty has 9755
[08:06] <crdlb> don't do that
[08:06] <vio> crdlb:  :)
[08:06] <zaggynl> !microphone
[08:06] <shirish> dystopianray_: I am using launchpad, the bug is a feature-list which is in aptitude (which is debian's baby) so while I have posted the bug at launchpad, it also needs to be done at debian's end as they are the people working on it.
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <psiscape> is it a usb mic?
[08:06] <shirish> dystopianray_: as I understand ubuntu is just packaging it.
[08:06] <zaggynl> psiscape, nah, headset
[08:06] <dystopianray_> shirish: on, debian only allow you to use reportbug?
[08:06] <dystopianray_> oh
[08:06] <sioux> How I can setup linspire CNR on ubuntu?
[08:07] <psiscape> did linspire release CNR yet?
[08:07] <shirish> dystopianray_: correct, although the .deb for it is in the universe repository
[08:07] <zaggynl> funny thing is, when I unmute mic from playback, I hear myself, but the sound recorder records nothing
[08:07] <zaggynl> won't work in half life in steam either
[08:07] <shirish> psiscape: it is supposed to release CNR by June something IIRC
[08:07] <dystopianray_> zaggynl: have you upped the mic in $ alsamixer -V capture ?
[08:08] <sioux> psiscape: canonical and linspire agreement said so
[08:08] <zaggynl> dystopianray_, all the way up
[08:08] <psiscape> cnr.com says "coming soon"
[08:08] <psiscape> not that I'll use it anyway
[08:09] <psiscape> I look at linspire in the same light as Novell/Microsoft
[08:10] <sioux> psiscape: so that's a "pacco" or "sola"!
[08:10] <kneeki> Anyone know of any issues preventing Ubuntu 7.04 from seeing 'hidden' files, even with the 'show hidden' box checked?
[08:10] <dystopianray_> kneeki: which hidden files?
[08:10] <dystopianray_> kneeki: can you see them in a terminal with 'ls' ?
[08:10] <dystopianray_> kneeki: i mean, ls -a
[08:11] <kneeki> I didn't try terminal. Just GUI *bonk*
[08:11] <psiscape> oh yeah... on the cnr thing... add this to your repos:
[08:11] <psiscape> # Freespire CNR
[08:11] <psiscape> # deb http://apt2.freespire.org/CNRUbuntu/ skipjack-feisty main
[08:12] <kneeki> I'll try it when I get the DVD during lunch. I was able to view the files on Winblows, and Ubuntu 6.10, but in Feisty nothing is shown.
[08:12] <dystopianray_> kneeki: they are on a ntfs partition?
[08:12] <kneeki> dystopianray: Hmm, I'm not sure. It's the WoW: Burning Crusade DVD. Whatever that is
[08:13] <dystopianray_> kneeki: ah
[08:13] <dystopianray_> kneeki: it has mac and windows installers, right?
[08:14] <[miles] > evening guys
[08:14] <kneeki> Yep, it does
[08:14] <dystopianray_> kneeki: ok, iirc, the windows files are not visible on the udf filesystem on it, only the mac files
[08:14] <dystopianray_> kneeki: you need to mount it as iso9660 to see the windows installer files
[08:15] <kneeki> dystopianray_: Ahh, I see. As I am new to 'nix, I thought the DVD was mounted when I put it in the drive. How do I mount it?
[08:15] <dystopianray_> kneeki: it wasn't mounted?
[08:15] <dystopianray_> kneeki: gnome should automount
[08:15] <dystopianray_> kneeki: what did you see on the cd?
[08:16] <kneeki> dystopianray_: I saw the tome files (the files used during the install) but all of the .exe's were hidden. And when I tried to type the address in, it just errored out saying they didn't exist
[08:16] <kneeki> I could also see a .trash folder, and a OSX_Install folder
[08:16] <dystopianray_> kneeki: ok so it did mount, what I'm saying is that you must manually mount it as iso9660
[08:17] <kneeki> Okay, how do I go about doing that?
[08:17] <dystopianray_> kneeki: $ sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0
[08:17] <kneeki> thanks =)
[08:17] <dystopianray_> kneeki: assuming /dev/cdrom is your cdrom device and /media/cdrom0 is where you want to mount it
[08:17] <dystopianray_> kneeki: you're seeing the osx files becuase they are only visible on the udf filesystem
[08:18] <dystopianray_> kneeki: I guess windows does iso9660 over udf so the windows installer is only no the iso9660 filesystem
[08:18] <dystopianray_> only on
[08:18] <kneeki> Ahh
[08:18] <kneeki> That makes sence =)
[08:19] <zaggynl> How would I install wine 0.9.35 in feisty? the repo version is 0.9.33
[08:19] <dystopianray_> zaggynl: find another repo that has that version
[08:19] <zaggynl> ah okay
[08:20] <dystopianray_> zaggynl: wine seems to have one but not yet for feisty: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[08:20] <zaggynl> cool thanks
[08:24] <psiscape> on the wine topic, Cedaga 6.0 was just released a couple days ago
[08:25] <_4str1> psiscape: exact
[08:26] <CapaH> What is Cedaga
[08:27] <Pici> Its an implementation of Wine tuned for playing games
[08:27] <Pici> !cedega
[08:27] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[08:27] <vio> it costs money though.,
[08:27] <Woody_> please I need help
[08:27] <CapaH> ah like Crossover ?
[08:27] <vio> !ask | Woody_
[08:27] <ubotu> Woody_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:28] <Pici> CapaH: Similar.
[08:28] <CapaH> which is better?
[08:28] <Pici> CapaH: Crossover is aimed at running business applications, Cedega at running games.
[08:29] <CapaH> interesting - are they related?
[08:29] <_4str1> nop
[08:29] <dystopianray_> CapaH: they are both based on wine
[08:29] <CapaH> Can it run starcraft? :)
[08:29] <dystopianray_> CapaH: wine can run starcraft
[08:29] <CapaH> really
[08:29] <CapaH> just out of the box?
[08:29] <Woody_> Yesterday at night I installed the nVidia driver on my Fiesty and then when i rebooted I got a black screen with the sound of drums. The screen is black (not white) and I can not access anything. I am on XP now, this is a dual booting box. I need to know what to do, and I do not want to reinstall fiesty. What is the problem and how can I get back to my ubuntu? thanks
[08:30] <_4str1> dystopianray_: crossover is based on wine ?
[08:30] <dystopianray_> CapaH: yes I have played it multiplayer on linux
[08:30] <dystopianray_> _4str1: i'm fairly certain it is
[08:30] <_4str1> ok
[08:30] <_4str1> didn't know
[08:30] <CapaH> dystopianray_: thats great -- now I just need to find my SC cd --- wonder if Blizzard will ever make SC2
[08:30] <_4str1> CapaH: good luxk ;)
[08:30] <dystopianray_> CapaH: probably make universe of starcraft or something
[08:30] <dystopianray_> CapaH: more money that way
[08:30] <_4str1> i tried to play guildwars...
[08:31] <CapaH> hope not... a universe of starcraft = I will lose my job, never have any money, and all and all be addicted hopelessly to a computer game... :)
[08:31] <_4str1> i think i screwed by my ATI videocard
[08:31] <vio> Woody_:  it seems like a driver problem, did you modify the xorg-conf?
[08:31] <CapaH> dpeneding of course on how good they do it :)
[08:31] <dystopianray_> CapaH: the only problem with starcraft is that it is a little slow on wine, because of wine lacking a DIB engine
[08:31] <Woody_> vio: I am new to all the Linux thing. explain whats xorg-conf? and how can I modify it?
[08:32] <CapaH> dystopianray_: 'DIB' ?
[08:32] <dystopianray_> CapaH: device independant bitmap
[08:32] <Woody_> vio: a step by step instruction would be amazing
[08:32] <dystopianray_> Woody_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf you can edit it with any text editor, it is your X configuration
[08:32] <Woody_> how can i edit it? dystopianray_
[08:33] <dystopianray_> Woody_: as root with any text editor
[08:33] <_4str1> Woody_: a command like : sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  would be cool ;)
[08:33] <dystopianray_> CapaH: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=72
[08:33] <Woody_> when i boot my ubuntu i get a black screen, i can not enter. dystopianray_  vio
[08:33] <Woody_> how can i edit it if i can not enter ubuntu?
[08:33] <_4str1> Woody_: do you know command like cd, ls, ...
[08:33] <dystopianray_> Woody_: boot the livecd
[08:33] <psiscape> i became god of the xorg.conf when I set up my 6 display monitor wall in kubuntu :D
[08:34] <_4str1> :p
[08:34] <Woody_> _4str1: no
[08:34] <dystopianray_> Woody_: in the livecd environment fire up a irc client and come back here
[08:34] <vio> Woody_: i'm really new to linux my self, but can you change "kernel" at startup?
[08:34] <psiscape> 4 24" lcd's + 2 tv's LOL
[08:34] <CapaH> dystopianray_: Will that work with Feisty also or just Edgy ?
[08:34] <_4str1> Woody_: try to boot on the rescue systeme
[08:34] <dystopianray_> CapaH: what? starcraft?
[08:35] <Woody_> i heard that i can press ctl+alt+f2 and i can fix anything there. even if i am not in ubuntu.. is that true?
[08:35] <CapaH> dystopianray_: sure
[08:35] <dystopianray_> CapaH: it should work on any linux, wine is the most important component
[08:35] <_4str1> theoricaly the second line in the boot menu
[08:35] <dystopianray_> Woody_: no you must have booted ubuntu to access a vt
[08:35] <_4str1> Woody_: right
[08:35] <_4str1> Woody_: ctrl-1 / 2 / 3 ...
[08:35] <dystopianray_> Woody_: if you boot up the livecd and come back here we can help you edit the file more easily
[08:36] <_4str1> Woody_: ctrl-alt F1
[08:36] <Woody_> _4str1: so now i should boot from the Live CD or no need?
[08:36] <_4str1> Woody_: the pb is you know any command :p
[08:36] <Woody_> Woody_: I am not sure that I have the CD right now
[08:36] <Woody_> _4str1: if you can tell me the commands, i can right them down
[08:36] <dystopianray_> _4str1: if he boots the livecd he can edit it easily from there and still talk to us
[08:36] <Woody_> and do them
[08:37] <_4str1> dystopianray_: his HD will not be mounted on the live CD
[08:37] <Woody_> yeah thats what i was just thinking about _4str1 good point
[08:37] <_4str1> right ?
[08:37] <dystopianray_> _4str1: yeah but he will have an irc client and we can tell him how to mount it
[08:38] <_4str1> dystopianray_: right :)
[08:38] <_4str1> irssi powaaaaaa :p
[08:38] <dystopianray_> _4str1: unless you want to tell him all the terminal commands he needs
[08:38] <_4str1> dystopianray_: no
[08:39] <_4str1> so complicate to explain all command :p
[08:39] <Woody_> if i ctrl+alt+f1 when i get the black screen. I get the terminal. I need some commands, but i dont know any of them. If you can help me with the commands that would be fine
[08:39] <Pici> !cli | Woody_ take a look at this link
[08:39] <ubotu> Woody_ take a look at this link: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:40] <_4str1> Woody_: its better if you boot on the liveCD and then you connect here
[08:40] <Woody_> Pici: you want to teach me the commands now? :P
[08:40] <dystopianray_> Woody_: all you really need to do is: $ sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:40] <Woody_> thanks dystopianray_
[08:40] <Woody_> yeah....
[08:40] <Woody_> wait wait
[08:41] <dystopianray_> Woody_: then change the line 'Driver     "nvidia"' to 'Driver     "nv"'
[08:41] <Woody_> im going to boot from ive
[08:41] <Woody_> i got the CD
[08:41] <dystopianray_> Woody_: then press ctrl+x
[08:41] <Woody_> ah okay
[08:41] <dystopianray_> Woody_: then press 'y'
[08:41] <Woody_> yeah
[08:41] <dystopianray_> Woody_: then type $ sudo reboot
[08:41] <boricua> this ques might sound silly but i dont understand why if dapper installed smoothly on my laptop 7.04 gives me so many errors including alpha and beta so far
[08:41] <dystopianray_> boricua: which errors?
[08:41] <Woody_> thanks a lot dystopianray_
[08:41] <_4str1> mmm
[08:42] <_4str1> think it would be better to restore the old version of the file
[08:42] <zaggynl> !pcspeaker
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcspeaker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <boricua> well i see lots of buffer error on the hdc and just now i goet x failed to start  but i see  tons of i/o errors while booting
[08:42] <zaggynl> I get kinda annoyed by the constant *beep* of my pc speaker
[08:43] <Woody_> thanks a lot guys, im going to reboot now
[08:43] <dystopianray_> zaggynl: blacklist 'pcspkr'
[08:43] <_4str1> lol
[08:43] <zaggynl> okay
[08:43] <dystopianray_> zaggynl: and then do 'modprobe -r pcspkr'
[08:43] <dystopianray_> zaggynl: no more pc speaker beeps
[08:44] <zaggynl> how do I do said blacklisting?
[08:44] <Pici> !blacklist | zaggynl
[08:44] <ubotu> zaggynl: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u
[08:45] <zaggynl> \0/
[08:45] <Pici> :)
[08:46] <dystopianray_> zaggynl: so basically you can just make the file /etc/modules/pcspkr which contains the line 'blacklist pcspkr'
[08:46] <shirish> dystopianray_: I guess no ideas or you forgot?
[08:46] <aaroncampbell> I thought I'd post this here, in case anyone has info on other options/better software.  It's simply my experience starting on Kubuntu (as a Web App Programmer): http://digg.com/linux_unix/A_Web_Developer_s_switch_to_Kubuntu_Feisty
[08:46] <aaroncampbell> Including the things that I couldn't really "replace" with linux equivalents
[08:46] <zaggynl> ahhh sweet sound of silence
[08:46] <dystopianray_> shirish: well I don't know anything about using reportbug
[08:46] <shirish> dystopianray_: fair enough
[08:47] <nomasteryoda> !launchpad
[08:47] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[08:47] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: nero's linux version is worse than k3b
[08:48] <nomasteryoda> k3b is very good  now... i have 3 burners and just drop a disk into any one of them and it "sees" it
[08:48] <kmaynard> will desktop effects work with nvidia-legacy?
[08:48] <boricua> dystopianray_: some of the errors unable to read cheche block mount: function not implemented bueffer i/o oerror on hdc
[08:48] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: if you install wine you can use ies4linux to install internet explorer 6 for web testing
[08:48] <boricua> *cache
[08:48] <dystopianray_> boricua: ah, might want to file a bug report
[08:48] <boricua> cant open basename /bin/sh
[08:49] <aaroncampbell> dystopianray_: Haven't tried it, so I couldn't say, but K3B has been good...
[08:49] <boricua> bug report i just got an email on a bug filed 3 months ago
[08:49] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: it's a very simple script (and I think gui now) http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[08:49] <boricua> on dapper no onger a real issue
[08:49] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: for photopshop replacement there is also krita, and afaik photoshop should run in crossover linux (although it is commercial)
[08:49] <aaroncampbell> dystopianray_: Cool, I haven't used wine directly in the past with much success, which is why I used Crossover Office
[08:49] <yemu> hi, i can't connect to wired network after recent update - there's no option for wired connection in networkmanager applet - only wireless
[08:49] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: oh good, photoshop should work in crossover
[08:50] <aaroncampbell> cool...I'll have to try it
[08:50] <yemu> anyone also has this problem
[08:50] <_4str1> aaroncampbell: for FTP connexion you can simply use konqueror ;)
[08:50] <nomasteryoda> yemu, i saw that too... i just run disable wireless in the applet, then type .. dhclient
[08:50] <nomasteryoda> ... if eth0 does not come up, i type "sudo ifconfig eth0 up"
[08:51] <nomasteryoda> not pretty, but it works
[08:51] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: your 8800 card will work on feisty final as that has a newer nv driver
[08:52] <kothz> anyone know if there's a backport for rdesktop that actually works with feisty?
[08:53] <aaroncampbell> _4str1: Well, I could have used IE or something too, but FileZilla stores all my connections, usernames, passwords, as well as local and remote default directories.
[08:53] <zPacKRat> kothz: what issues are you having?
[08:53] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: konqueror can store your login details in it's encrypted toolchain and you can bookmark ftp servers
[08:53] <_4str1> aaroncampbell: yes konqueror too ;)
[08:53] <aaroncampbell> _4str1: and since I used it on windows, I didn't even have to re-enter all that data, I just copied the files across
[08:53] <aaroncampbell> interesting
[08:54] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: konq is a very simple ftp client though, may not be adequate
[08:54] <_4str1> aaroncampbell: i developpe website too
[08:54] <_4str1> but just using konqueror and kate
[08:54] <aaroncampbell> dystopianray_: My 8800 works now, I just had to implement the little fix that I wrote in that bug report...some package somewhere is missing a file (libwfb)
[08:54] <dystopianray_> _4str1: yeah that is what I do as well, although i only do php and sql
[08:54] <kothz> er sorry zPackRat - wrong button
[08:55] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: so the livecd worked with the 8800 by default?
[08:55] <_4str1> ^^
[08:55] <aaroncampbell> Does konqueror allow you to make overwrite/resume rules, etc?
[08:55] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: no, it's very simple
[08:56] <aaroncampbell> dystopianray_: Well, it used the vesa drivers...
[08:56] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: it just presents it like another folder on your filesystem
[08:56] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: oh it did it automatically?
[08:56] <aaroncampbell> dystopianray_: no dual monitors, etc
[08:56] <aaroncampbell> dystopianray_: yes
[08:56] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: ah I thought it didnt' work at all with 8800 cards
[08:56] <aaroncampbell> I only ran into problems when I tried to set up the nvidia drivers for it (nvidia-glx)
[08:57] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: instead of using digikam you can also go to 'camera:/' in konq and it will let you browser the filesystem of your digital camera
[08:57] <Tom_g> wish i could afford an 8800 :(
[08:58] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: don't forget about krita, which is a great kde image editor
[08:59] <psiscape> aaroncampbell: I just left a comment for you on your blog :D
[08:59] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: you may prefer it over the gimp
[08:59] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: utorrent works in wine if you don't like the other torrent clients
[09:01] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: the guy who said ubuntu is better than kubuntu, kubuntu is ubuntu but with kde instead of gnome
[09:01] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: anything you can do with ubuntu you can do with kubuntu by installing a couple of packages
[09:01] <shirish> aaroncampbell: there is deluge-torrent but its in development atm. I am looking forward to that one.
[09:01] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: and vice versa
[09:01] <aaroncampbell> dystopianray_: yep, it offers to let you do that, but since my wife is a shutter bug, and takes 100s and 100s of pics, it's nice that it can automatically put them into dated directories
[09:02] <aaroncampbell> dystopianray_: I'll check krita...never tried it (taking notes here)
[09:02] <xopher> yeah, deluge-torrent is very promising, when it get's the promised features, it's going to be great
[09:02] <_4str1> ktorrent is prety cool
[09:02] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: krita is installed by default on edgy, but I don't think it gets installed on feisty (which is a shame)
[09:02] <aaroncampbell> I heard that about uTorrent, but it doesn't seem to be better enough to make it worth that to me
[09:02] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: krita supports colour profiles and greater than 8-bits per channel images
[09:03] <aaroncampbell> shirish: I linked that deluge in my post, but I didn't try it yet
[09:03] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: utorrent is more aggressive than other clients and the other clients don't have utorrent compatible DHT (except ktorrent) so you may find utorrent gives better torrent performance
[09:03] <xopher> for a good bittorrent client, although a bit sluggish because of the java, is azureus..
[09:03] <enyc> Is canonical having fun with new CD image / kernel / PATA drivers? ;-)
[09:04] <aaroncampbell> dystopianray_: "colour profiles and greater than 8-bits per channel images" sounds like Greek to me, but I'll try it anyway...I mostly want ease of use for a non-graphical person
[09:04] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: well as a web developer it probably doesn't matter to you, hehe
[09:04] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: kde doesn't have the crazy split up interface of the gimp http://www.koffice.org/krita/screenshots.php
[09:04] <_4str1> dystopianray_: what program are you using to manipulate SVG image ?
[09:05] <aaroncampbell> dystopianray_: I mostly use torrents to get Distro DVDs, etc.  I'm not THAT worried about getting an extra couple k/sec
[09:05] <davisc> Anyone know if full Flash function is available with an apt-get install from the standard repos or do you need to go for some external repo/download manually?
[09:05] <nomasteryoda> well there is always gimpshop..
[09:05] <dystopianray_> _4str1: I don't do any image manipulation
[09:05] <_4str1> :/
[09:05] <nomasteryoda> or beryl's grouping feature...
[09:05] <nomasteryoda> !flash
[09:05] <dystopianray_> _4str1: inkscape is supposed to be the best SVG program
[09:05] <_4str1> ok
[09:05] <dystopianray_> _4str1: or you could just use any text editor as it's just xml
[09:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:05] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[09:06] <cables> dystopianray_, I've heard good thins about Xara Somethingorother
[09:06] <_4str1> dystopianray_: yep but its a little bit difficult to draw an image withe kate :p
[09:06] <nomasteryoda> davisc, there you go... restricted formats
[09:06] <dystopianray_> cables: doesn't ring a bell, but it's not something i've looked into
[09:06] <cables> I just did a fresh install of Feisty Beta, and the updater says that some packages cannot be authenticated.
[09:06] <cables> Can anyone explain that?
[09:07] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: rtorrent is another good torrent click, it's a terminal client though, but has very small system requirements
[09:08] <davisc> nomasteryoda: And the answer to my question is, it's painful under AMD64 :-(
[09:08] <Woody_> hello vio
[09:08] <Woody_> vio: remember me with the nvidia driver problem?
[09:08] <vio> Woody_: hey
[09:08] <vio> Woody_:  yeah, i'm a little busy at the moment, how did it go?
[09:09] <Woody_> someone gave me the commands, they didnt work. or i dont know how to make them work
[09:09] <cables> Should I install the updates? I just did a fresh install of Feisty Beta and I'm getting a message that some packages could not be authenticated.
[09:09] <Woody_> vio: im on LIVE CD right now
[09:09] <dystopianray_> Woody_: i gave you the commands
[09:09] <Woody_> vio: can you help me with it?
[09:09] <Woody_> dystopianray_: yeah dystopianray_, brother the commands are wrong i think
[09:09] <dystopianray_> Woody_: what problem did you have with them?
[09:10] <Woody_> i cannot type: $ sudo -w /ect/w11/xorg.conf
[09:10] <Woody_> it says that: sudo:illegal option "w"
[09:10] <dystopianray_> Woody_: sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:10] <Woody_> dystopianray_: anyway, I am on LiveCD
[09:10] <Woody_> I hope you can help me here
[09:10] <dystopianray_> Woody_: ok, what device is the ubuntu partition?
[09:10] <aaroncampbell> dystopianray_: I'll check it out
[09:11] <Woody_> dystopianray_: its on partition D: (i dont know if thats a good answer to your ques.)
[09:11] <zPacKRat> kothz: I would reinstall it, It works fine for me, with some mouse issues. as in no mouse on vista desktops
[09:11] <dystopianray_> Woody_: no I don't care what windows thinks right now
[09:11] <Woody_> dystopianray_: i do not know
[09:11] <dystopianray_> Woody_: can you pastebin the output of 'fdisk -l'
[09:11] <Woody_> okay 1 moment
[09:12] <[miles] > guys, im getting  5412 root      25   0 69480  50m 5652 R 74.2  3.3   6:44.06 Xorg
[09:12] <[miles] > 74% is high as hell
[09:13] <xipietotec> I'm having some problems, basically if for any reason my session crashes, when I reload it tries to load everything I have open...and it mostly succeeds except it fails to load beryl correctly of course, which means it usually crashes a few times before I finally get everything fixed. How do I turn this behavior off?
[09:13] <Woody_> dystopianray_: i should open a terminal and type in "fdisk -l"
[09:13] <Woody_> is that it?
[09:13] <dystopianray_> Woody_: yes, then pastebin the output
[09:13] <Woody_> im not getting any output dystopianray_
[09:14] <Woody_> i type "fdisk -l" enter, it just goes to a new line
[09:14] <dystopianray_> Woody_: sudo fdisk -l
[09:14] <Woody_> Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>6 bytes
[09:14] <Woody_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[09:14] <Woody_> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[09:14] <Woody_>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[09:14] <Woody_> /dev/hda1   *           1        2550    20482843+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[09:14] <Woody_> /dev/hda2            2551        9729    57665317+  83  Linux
[09:14] <Woody_> thats it dystopianray_ :)
[09:15] <dystopianray_> !pastebin | Woody_
[09:15] <ubotu> Woody_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:15] <Woody_> oh im sorry
[09:15] <dystopianray_> Woody_: but anyway run this: $ mkdir /media/temp ; sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/temp
[09:16] <dystopianray_> Woody_: wait, put a sudo in front of that mkdir
[09:16] <Woody_> okay sir
[09:18] <Woody_> i did it dystopianray_
[09:18] <dystopianray_> Woody_: ok, now run this $ sudo gedit /media/temp/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:19] <_4str1> kate ...
[09:19] <_4str1> :p
[09:19] <dystopianray_> _4str1: i think he's on ubuntu
[09:19] <_4str1> ha ok
[09:19] <Woody_> dystopianray_: mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/temp': File exists
[09:20] <Woody_> mount: /dev/hda2 already mounted or /media/temp busy
[09:20] <Woody_> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda2 is already mounted on /media/temp
[09:20] <dystopianray_> Woody_: you only need to run it once
[09:20] <_4str1> Woody_: you do it twice ?
[09:20] <Woody_> no
[09:20] <dystopianray_> Woody_: $ sudo gedit /media/temp/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:20] <Woody_> only once
[09:20] <dystopianray_> Woody_: you did it twice
[09:20] <Woody_> oh i did? :(
[09:20] <dystopianray_> Woody_: but it doesn't matter run the command I just said
[09:20] <_4str1> sure ;)
[09:20] <Woody_> yeah
[09:21] <Woody_> yeah
[09:21] <locolbd> can anyone tell me why my wirless connection disconnects, when my computer is idle, also when i click on network selector, it does not recognize my wireless connection unless i restart ubuntu
[09:21] <Woody_> i got the xorg.conf
[09:22] <dystopianray_> Woody_: ok, now if you scroll down a bit you'll see a line that says: Driver "nvidia"
[09:23] <Woody_> yeah
[09:23] <Woody_> i changed it to "nv"
[09:23] <dystopianray_> Woody_: ok, now save it and reboot
[09:23] <Woody_> wow amazing!
[09:23] <_4str1> lol
[09:24] <_4str1> terminal powa effects !
[09:24] <Woody_> dystopianray_: so if i get this black screen next time, i just have to type in: $ sudo gedit /media/temp/etc/x11/xorg.conf ?????
[09:24] <zPacKRat> Woody: just ctl+alt+backspace
[09:24] <dystopianray_> Woody_: after mounting the partition, yes
[09:24] <_4str1> zPacKRat: lol he is on a liveCD
[09:25] <dystopianray_> zPacKRat: he's editing his ubuntu install from the livecd
[09:25] <zPacKRat> oh
[09:25] <Woody_> when im on ubuntu, ill be back here
[09:25] <zPacKRat> my bad
[09:25] <Woody_> you have to help me guys get my driver for the nvidia geforce 4
[09:25] <Woody_> im finding trouble getting it
[09:25] <dystopianray_> you only need to install nvidia-glx
[09:25] <Woody_> these are my first days with Linux, don't worry ill become a good one in the coming days :D
[09:26] <enyc> !nvidia | Woody_
[09:26] <ubotu> Woody_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:26] <Woody_> nvidia-glx doesnt work with geforce 4
[09:26] <Woody_> i need the other one
[09:26] <dystopianray_> Woody_: yes it does
[09:26] <dystopianray_> Woody_: nvidia-glx-new is the one that doesnt' work with geforce4
[09:26] <Woody_> nvidia-glx made me the problems
[09:26] <dystopianray_> Woody_: have you fully updated your feisty install?
[09:26] <Woody_> there is another one, i forgot its name
[09:27] <Woody_> ah, no dystopianray_ i didnt
[09:27] <Woody_> its more than 300Megs
[09:27] <dystopianray_> ok then you are probably before the introduction of nvidia-glx-new, so you have to use nvidia-glx-legacy
[09:27] <enyc> Woody_: there should be a feisty RC disk soon...  If you are newish to ""linux"" systems, I suggest you wait for feisty release disk and start from there...
[09:28] <Woody_> ah
[09:28] <Woody_> yeah legacy thats it dystopianray_
[09:28] <enyc> Woody_: originally planned for  Thursday... shouldnt be too long ;-)
[09:29] <dystopianray_> Woody_: after you update your feisty, or install using the RC or final, then you should use nvidia-glx
[09:29] <Woody_> is it easy to get the legacy?
[09:29] <dystopianray_> Woody_: $ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[09:29] <Woody_> is legacy good?
[09:29] <dystopianray_> Woody_: no, but it will work with your hardware
[09:29] <dystopianray_> Woody_: you won't have to use legacy when you next update your feisty
[09:31] <Woody_> does beryl and compiz work with legacy?
[09:31] <dystopianray_> Woody_: no
[09:31] <dystopianray_> Woody_: you will need a newer feisty to use beryl
[09:31] <dystopianray_> or compiz
[09:31] <vieirar> Hi I added a new disk to my system and made the proper changes to grub. Linux use to be installed on (hd0,0) now it is on (hd1,0). however whenever I update my kernel grub revertsback to (hd0,0) and I have to manually fix. What file keeps telling it to change my menu.lst to (hd0,0) for all my kernels?
[09:31] <Woody_> ah
[09:32] <enyc> vieirar: see comments in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:32] <Woody_> when is the official release date of FF?
[09:32] <vio> when is the R.C coming out 1-3 days still?
[09:32] <enyc> Woody_: I _told_you_already_ !
[09:32] <enyc> vio: any day now ;-)
[09:32] <vieirar> enyc, OK I will look there. I do change menu.lst each time never really read all comments
[09:32] <enyc> vio: they have been having trouble and putting in later kernel etc.
[09:33] <enyc> vieirar: erm there are commented bits in the ***BEGIN AUTOMAGIC***
[09:33] <vio> that's great, i hope they manage :)
[09:33] <enyc> vieirar: # groot=(hd0,0)
[09:33] <vieirar> enyc, cool looking now thanks
[09:33] <enyc> vieirar: those _comments_ are USED by "update-grub" but of course grub ignores them
[09:34] <enyc> vieirar: NB **** to check if its doing the right thing -- do "sudo update-grub" and see if it puts (hd1,0) in the right place
[09:34] <enyc> vieirar: you follow?
[09:34] <zaggynl> is microphone support broken in feisty currently?
[09:35] <enyc> zaggynl: unknown... is you mic muted/disabled ?
[09:35] <dystopianray_> zaggynl: depends on your soundcard
[09:35] <zaggynl> fully enabled, slided up
[09:35] <zaggynl> unmuted..etc
[09:35] <enyc> zaggynl: master input volime too?
[09:35] <soundray> I
[09:35] <zaggynl> if I breath into my microphone I can hear it from my headset
[09:36] <enyc> zaggynl: thats passthrough volume...
[09:36] <enyc> zaggynl: not the "recording" volume
[09:36] <soundray> I'm trying to run gdb in feisty, and it tries to call a binary called /bin/ex -- apt-file can
[09:36] <soundray> I'm trying to run gdb in feisty, and it tries to call a binary called /bin/ex -- apt-file can't find it. What is /bin/ex please?
[09:36] <zaggynl> enyc, capture slider is all up to 100/100
[09:36] <enyc> zaggynl: heh ... actually I dont use recording in linux at the moment so I dont really know what to say
[09:37] <zaggynl> ah np :)
[09:37] <gils> i am noticing that there have been no updates at all today since yesterday.....anyone?
[09:37] <enyc> gils: probably busy testing in canonical?
[09:37] <dystopianray_> gils: all the updates are listed here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/feisty-changes/2007-April/date.html
[09:37] <vieirar> enyc, That was it THANKS!!
[09:37] <dystopianray_> gils: I told you this earlier today
[09:37] <enyc> vieirar:  ?????
[09:37] <gils> yes i know
[09:37] <gils> i am being impatient
[09:37] <enyc> vieirar: aaaah groot
[09:37] <vieirar> enyc, the groot=
[09:37] <enyc> vieirar: yes
[09:38] <aaroncampbell> When will feisty be released?
[09:39] <gils> dystopianray_: thank you sir
[09:39] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: sometime in the next 2 weeks
[09:39] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: Been to the web site lately?
[09:39] <aaroncampbell> dystopianray_: ok, I had read the 19th before
[09:39] <Woody_> dystopianray_: im going to reboot now, thanks a lot. i really appreciate it
[09:39] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: well considering that the RC has not yet been released, I highly doubt that it will be released on the 19th
[09:40] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: I always go to kubuntu.org...  Thanks for helping out anyway
[09:41] <ROnewbie> crimsun: still busy ?
[09:41] <dystopianray_> aaroncampbell: it's probably incorrect
[09:46] <CapaH> If I install the iso for Feisty Fawn what will it do to my existing installation/files/etc ?
[09:46] <shatrat> CapaH, well, you can do an upgrade and it will just update all the packages to the new version
[09:47] <shatrat> CapaH, you dont even need the iso for that, you can do that with the update utility
[09:47] <ROnewbie> !paste | ronewbie
[09:47] <shatrat> !upgrade
[09:47] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:47] <CapaH> What is the best way to go from Edgy to Feisty? to use the .iso ?
[09:47] <lm_> hey there, can anybody here tell me if its possible to UNMOUNT the root partition manually and then resize it with gparted?
[09:48] <shatrat> Back up anything you cant afford to lose, adn then use the update utility like in the instructions.  If there is a problem you might need to do a fresh feisty install but hopefully that isn't necessary
[09:48] <lm_> whilst using it?
[09:48] <shatrat> lm_, I dont think so.  I'd just use a liveCD or something
[09:48] <dystopianray_> lm_: no, you must use a livecd to resize root
[09:48] <lm_> damnit
[09:48] <ryanakca> is it in any way, shape, or form (I know, not recommended) to upgrade from debian sarge to ubuntu feisty?
[09:49] <dystopianray_> ryanakca: anything is possible, but installing feisty would probalby be a hell of a lot easier than attempting that
[09:49] <ryanakca> lol, yeah
[09:49] <CarlFK> apt-get update seems stuck on: 99% [18 Sources bzip20]
[09:49] <shatrat> ryanakca, no.  You could back up your personal files and program settingsf rom your home and they would work in ubuntu, but theres certainly no upgrade path between distros
[09:49] <CarlFK> for over 2 min now
[09:49] <mc44> ryanakca: Im willing to be it is possible. How is a totally different matter :)
[09:50] <mc44> *bet
[09:50] <dystopianray_> CarlFK: stop it and try again
[09:50] <ryanakca> shatrat: kk... just wondering... because ubuntu is about 95-99% debian... we sync, merge, etc.
[09:50] <ryanakca> (well, the % is a bit of an exageration, but you get the point.)
[09:50] <mc44> ryanakca: except sarge is a lot lot older than feisty
[09:50] <ryanakca> well, etch
[09:51] <mc44> well etch probably wouldnt be too painful if you knew what you were doing. :p
[09:51] <ryanakca> lol
[09:51] <CarlFK> dystopianray_: thnaks - that did the trick
[09:51] <ryanakca> just rebooting vmware from a feisty cd is probably easiest
[09:52] <RedRose> how can i have beryl start when Gnome does(through GDM)?
[09:52] <shatrat> RedKrieg, add it to your System -> PRefs -> Session -> Startup programs
[09:52] <shatrat> RedRose, ^^ that was for you.  add 'beryl-manager'
[09:53] <enyc> Seemngly there has just been an update ... "update-manager" ... evidently the system is being worked on ;-)
[09:54] <lm_> !fstab
[09:54] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:54] <RedRose> shatrat, That Did It, Tyvm
[09:59] <awkorama> hi allz
[10:00] <CapaH> Will anything in my existing Ubuntu Edgy stop working once I put on Feisty such as drivers etc?
[10:00] <dystopianray_> CapaH: difficult to predict
[10:11] <kmaynard> will desktop effects work with nvidia-legacy?
[10:12] <cables> I love the new Glossy theme... what's it based on?
[10:12] <kmaynard> i'd update to find out, but i'm scared to update :)
[10:12] <dystopianray_> kmaynard: no
[10:12] <preglow> looks like human with other colours
[10:12] <kmaynard> dystopianray_, will they ever?
[10:13] <dystopianray_> kmaynard: no, you will need new hardware
[10:13] <cables> preglow, but it's... glossier. I guess that can be achieved with other colors though :)
[10:13] <kmaynard> well dang
[10:13] <preglow> cables: heh, dunno, but it sure looks human derived
[10:13] <dystopianray_> kmaynard: what card do you have?
[10:13] <kmaynard> dystopianray_, that doesnt make sense. worked fine in edgy
[10:13] <preglow> anyone know when restricted modules will be available for the lowlatency kernel?
[10:14] <cables> I've always been curious... what IS a low-latency kernel?
[10:14] <kmaynard> dystopianray_, i'll have to look when i get home. not fussing at you, just wondering why the difference.
[10:14] <profoX`> Is it just me or doesn't network-manager work with Wireless networks anymore? If I rightclick the applet I can only enable networking, but not wireless networking (the option is.. gone?)
[10:14] <dystopianray_> kmaynard: you must have been using xgl in edgy, you can still use it in fesity, but nvidia-legacy will never support aiglx
[10:14] <kmaynard> garrr
[10:15] <profoX`> cables: faster response times, but it also has disadvantages
[10:15] <kmaynard> i'm not gonna get a newer card just so my windows will wobble
[10:15] <cables> profoX`, faster response times for what?
[10:15] <dystopianray_> kmaynard: if your card is so old that you need the legacy kernel, then compiz/beryl will probably run horribly anyway
[10:15] <kmaynard> dystopianray_, worked fine in edgy, and when i first moved to feisty.
[10:15] <kmaynard> then some odd updated broke it
[10:15] <dystopianray_> kmaynard: you must have been using xgl
[10:16] <kmaynard> maybe so
[10:17] <kmaynard> could i use an older driver and squeak by maybe?
[10:17] <dystopianray_> kmaynard: an older driver is going to support even less features
[10:17] <dystopianray_> kmaynard: no driver before and including nvidia-legacy will ever support aiglx
[10:17] <profoX`> cables: uses more CPU, but applications respond faster...
[10:18] <kmaynard> can i sacrifice a chicken and arrange the bones just so?
[10:18] <dystopianray_> kmaynard: sacrifice some money and get a newer video card
[10:18] <profoX`> cables: is used primarily for audio development (need lowlatency there between the applications)
[10:18] <kmaynard> ha
[10:18] <cables> profoX`, ah, makes sense.
[10:18] <cables> profoX`, so faster interprocess communication?
[10:19] <profoX`> cables: yea, or that's what they made me believe :)
[10:19] <cables> profoX`, okay :)
[10:20] <profoX`> Question: has something changed in network-manager recently? The Wireless Network enable/disable tickbox is gone
[10:20] <dystopianray_> profoX`: do you actually have a wireless interface?
[10:20] <dystopianray_> profoX`: or is that interface in /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:20] <profoX`> dystopianray_: yes I have a wireless interface; no it's not in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:21] <profoX`> dystopianray_: it used to work fine too, but after some update a few days ago, I got this behaviour.. I just updated again today.. still the same
[10:21] <dystopianray_> profoX`: file a bug report
[10:21] <concept10> How do I find out what config file GDM uses on boot?
[10:23] <xonecas> Hey, I'm running feisty live cd, and there is 2 things wrong, my screen resolution is stuck at 1024x768 should be 1280x800) and my wireless (broadcom4311) is recognized but can't connect to any network
[10:23] <xonecas> can someone help me out with this ?
[10:23] <Skrotffs> Is that a intel video device?
[10:23] <xonecas> yes
[10:24] <dystopianray_> xonecas: did you get firemware for your wireless card?
[10:24] <xonecas> its a dell e1505 with the intel video card and dell wireless (broadcom)
[10:24] <Skrotffs> hmm.. there's a tool for that, I just can't remember what it's called
[10:24] <xonecas> not it is like this out of the box
[10:24] <dystopianray_> xonecas: you need to either get firmware for the bcm43xx driver, or use ndiswrapper
[10:25] <xonecas> is it 915resolution ?
[10:25] <xonecas> can you direct me to it ?
[10:25] <putridp> 915resolution
[10:25] <dystopianray_> xonecas: you won't need it in a few hours
[10:25] <dystopianray_> xonecas: xserver-xorg-video-intel is in feisty now
[10:25] <xonecas> dystopianray_:  why not ?
[10:25] <dystopianray_> xonecas: which has native modesetting
[10:25] <zPacKRat> xonecas: feisty does not seem to have wide screen resolutions, as for the wireless I found a .deb package that made my bcm43xx card work.
[10:26] <xonecas> so if I install and update my video card issue will be solved ?
[10:26] <Skrotffs> is that the new intel driver?
[10:26] <dystopianray_> zPacKRat: it does, it depends on your hardware
[10:26] <dystopianray_> Skrotffs: yes
[10:26] <Skrotffs> nice
[10:26] <dystopianray_> xonecas: yes, but it may takea  couple of hours to hit all the mirrors
[10:26] <zPacKRat> ah, good to know
[10:26] <dystopianray_> xonecas: you'll have to specifically install xserver-xorg-video-intel and possibly remove xserver-xorg-video-i810
[10:26] <xonecas> I see
[10:27] <CapaH> To upgrade from Edgy to Feisty Fawn -- is it safe/recommended to do this by booting the computer from a burned CD of the Fesity .iso ? -- is another way preferred/why ?
[10:27] <dystopianray_> xonecas: current driver uses the bios to set video modes, 915resolution patches the bios to have additional modes, the new intel driver no longer uses the bios so can set any resolution
[10:28] <dystopianray_> !upgrade | CapaH
[10:28] <ubotu> CapaH: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:28] <crimsun> and more importantly, -intel programs the timings correctly, which 915resolution utterly neglects
[10:29] <xonecas> ok so its just a matter of waiting
[10:29] <crimsun> yes, it's awaiting binary NEW
[10:29] <xonecas> now how about the broadcom wireless ?
[10:29] <crimsun> source is already available; you can apt-get -b source if you feel so inclined
[10:29] <dystopianray_> xonecas: you will need firmware for bcm43xx or ndiswrapper
[10:29] <xonecas> do you know where to get the firmware and how to apply it ?
[10:29] <xonecas> (or a link that explains it ?)\
[10:30] <dystopianray_> xonecas: no, but I know how to work ndiswrapper which usually has much better results
[10:30] <dystopianray_> xonecas: but you need the .sys and .inf file from a windows driver for your wireless card to use ndiswrapper
[10:30] <xonecas> care to help me out with ndiswrapper then ?
[10:30] <xonecas> I have them
[10:31] <dystopianray_> xonecas: ok, install ndiswrapper-common
[10:31] <dystopianray_> xonecas: create the file /etc/modprobe.d/bcm43xx with the contents 'blacklist bcm43xx'
[10:32] <crochat> Hello !
[10:32] <crochat> What about sdpd (bluetooth) in Feisty ?
[10:33] <dystopianray_> crochat: what about it?
[10:33] <crochat> I can't see any package that contains sdpd
[10:34] <dystopianray_> crochat: it's probably in one of the bluez packages
[10:35] <xonecas> dystopianray_:  how do I create that file ? sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/bcm43xx ?
[10:35] <dystopianray_> xonecas: that will work
[10:36] <crochat> dystopianray_: In Edgy, it was in bluez-utils, but in Feisty, it doesn't appear in any package...
[10:36] <xonecas> dystopianray_:  ok installed ndiswrapper common, and blacklisted bcm43xx
[10:36] <dystopianray_> xonecas: now run $ sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx
[10:38] <xonecas> dystopianray_:  done
[10:38] <dystopianray_> xonecas: ok, now copy the .sys and .inf file to your home directory, or somewhere else where you can access them
[10:40] <xonecas> still scavaging for them in my windows partition
[10:40] <joeamined> hi everybody
[10:40] <joeamined> hi everybody
[10:41] <joeamined> le brightness applet og gnome-power-manager doesn't work on my hp dv6000
[10:41] <joeamined> any idea of how to fix it ?
[10:42] <dystopianray_> joeamined: is laptop's brightness able to be controlled via software?
[10:43] <joeamined> i don't know
[10:43] <joeamined> but i can control it through the keyboard
[10:43] <joeamined> with two special keys
[10:43] <joeamined> to increase or decrease brightness
[10:44] <joeamined> the applet says it can't retreive the screen's brightness
[10:44] <dystopianray_> joeamined: there may not be support for adjusting your laptop's display brightness in ubuntu
[10:44] <joeamined> i think it's a problem related to gnome
[10:45] <joeamined> because the applet is furnished by gnome
[10:48] <xonecas> dystopianray_:  i can't find the .inf file
[10:48] <dystopianray_> xonecas: should be in c:\windows\system32\drivers\
[10:48] <xonecas> ok
[10:48] <xonecas> got it
[10:48] <dystopianray_> xonecas: usually the same name as the .sys file but with .inf extension
[10:48] <xonecas> copied to my home folder
[10:49] <dystopianray_> xonecas: ok no go into your home dir and type 'sudo ndiswrapper -i blah.inf' (whatever the inf was called)
[10:49] <Assim> so hows the second RC going ?
[10:49] <dystopianray_> Assim: there hasn't been a first RC
[10:50] <Assim> oh but topic say RC needs testing ?
[10:50] <dystopianray_> Assim: candidates for the RC
[10:50] <Assim> lol ok
[10:51] <mc44> RCC if you will
[10:51] <Assim> think i'll stay away from that one :P
[10:52] <xonecas> dystopianray_:  sudo: ndiswrapper command not found
[10:52] <dystopianray_> xonecas: you sure you installed ndiswrapper-common ?
[10:52] <xonecas> yes
[10:53] <dystopianray_> xonecas: it comes from that package
[10:53] <xonecas> i did it in the terminal
[10:53] <xonecas> let me check synaptic
[10:54] <xonecas> I did something wrong
[10:54] <xonecas> i'm installing from synaptic now
[10:55] <xonecas> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-common_1.30-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[10:55] <xonecas>   404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[10:56] <Jordan_U> xonecas, Do you have a broadcom card?
[10:56] <xonecas> yes
[10:56] <dystopianray_> xonecas: do $ sudo apt-get update
[10:56] <dystopianray_> xonecas: then upgrade ndiswrapper
[10:56] <Jordan_U> xonecas, You probably don't need or want NDIS wrapper then
[10:57] <dystopianray_> xonecas: well, install it i mean
[10:57] <dystopianray_> jonathaN: bcm43xx barely works
[10:57] <dystopianray_> whoops that was meant for Jordan_U
[10:57] <Jordan_U> dystopianray_, I thought that Feisty had a new version that supported the newest firmware, or is that going to be Feisty+1 ?
[10:58] <dystopianray_> Jordan_U: no idea, all i know is that lots of people complaing of bcm43xx not working and ndiswrapper works great
[10:58] <xonecas> well feisty recognized the card from the start, that is an improvement from edgy
[10:58] <Jordan_U> dystopianray_, That has to do with the fact that you used to have to use old firmware with bcm43xx, the drivers were fine, the firmware was unstable
[10:59] <xonecas> it just wont find any wireless networks
[10:59] <dystopianray_> xonecas: well hurry up and run $ sudo apt-get update
[10:59] <dystopianray_> xonecas: and then install ndiswrapper
[10:59] <Jordan_U> xonecas, My suggestion would be to try installing fwcutter, it can't hurt and is much more official than ndiswrapper
[11:00] <xonecas> let me finish trying ndiswrapper
[11:00] <xonecas> if it doesn't work
[11:00] <xonecas> I'll give fwcutter another chance
[11:00] <dystopianray_> xonecas: ndiswrapper should work, bcm43xx rarely works properly
[11:00] <xonecas> yes I know
[11:00] <dystopianray_> xonecas: and AFAIK it doesn't support WPA
[11:00] <Jordan_U> xonecas, I have heard of people having problems going back to native drivers after ndiswrapper.
[11:00] <dystopianray_> Jordan_U: that's becuase the native drivers dont' work properly
[11:01] <xonecas> jordan can you guide me trought it ?
[11:01] <Jordan_U> dystopianray_, It does, and again, that was the older version, and it was the FIRMWARE
[11:01] <dystopianray_> xonecas: keep going with ndiswrapper and try bcm43xx if that doesn't work
[11:01] <xonecas> yes that is what i'm doing
[11:01] <Jordan_U> xonecas, sudo apt-get install bcm43xxfwcutter , thats all you need to do ( if you have the universe repo enabled )
[11:02] <xonecas> Jordan_U:  ok let me just finish trying ndiswrapper
[11:02] <dystopianray_> xonecas: do you have ndiswrapper-common installed yet?
[11:02] <xonecas> dystopianray_:  just did
[11:02] <xonecas> what next ?
[11:02] <xonecas> ndiwrapper utils ?
[11:02] <dystopianray_> xonecas: now run $ sudo ndiswrapper -i blah.inf (whatever the inf was called)
[11:03] <xonecas> Error: no versions of ndiswrapper found!
[11:04] <xonecas> dystopianray_:  it needed the ndiswrapper-utils
[11:04] <xonecas> now it worked
[11:04] <xonecas> next step ?
[11:04] <dystopianray_> xonecas: modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:04] <dystopianray_> with sudo
[11:05] <xonecas> done
[11:05] <dystopianray_> xonecas: now you should have working wireless
[11:05] <xonecas> I DO !!
[11:05] <xonecas> yeah !
[11:05] <xonecas> :D
[11:05] <xonecas> thanks dystopianray_
[11:05] <dystopianray_> xonecas: add a new line to /etc/modules that just says 'ndiswrapper'
[11:06] <zaggynl> how do I give my apache2 server rights to the /tmp directory?
[11:11] <dystopianray_> zaggynl: any process should be able to use /tmp
[11:12] <zaggynl> I'm using the frontend for hellanzb, but it can't/won't move a file from /tmp to it's download directory
[11:12] <dystopianray_> zaggynl: is the file readable by the user that apache is running as?
[11:13] <zaggynl> no clue
[11:13] <dystopianray_> zaggynl: what permissions does the file have?
[11:14] <zaggynl> I'm getting more confused
[11:14] <zaggynl> it's a fileupload form that should upload an nzb file
[11:14] <zaggynl> but there's nothing in /tmp
[11:15] <atselby> I just downloaded the 7 so updates for todaym, 30 something mb, and it says I need a system restart. Is this update safe or is it like the last kernel update/
[11:15] <TMH_> hi. I've upgraded my kernel, patched it and used mkinitramfs to make an initrd for it
[11:15] <TMH_> however, initrd is now complaining that my modules.dep file does not exist
[11:15] <TMH_> despite the fact that it does
[11:15] <dystopianray_> atselby: was there kernel update?
[11:15] <atselby> For today, i believe so because its asking for a reboot.
[11:16] <dystopianray_> atselby: -15.27 is the latest and should be fine
[11:16] <atselby> dystopianray_: how can icheck what it just installed? i'm not familar with where hte logs are.
[11:18] <Jordan_U> atselby, I have all updates and everything is working fine, even after a reboot, worst case you choose an older kernel image from grub and some modules might not work.
[11:19] <atselby> jordan_U: yeah, I was just curious mostly. Okay thanks.
[11:19] <atselby> I just got a little leery over the last one..
[11:19] <xonecas> Jordan_U could you show me the command to get fwcutter working ?
[11:19] <zaggynl> Aren't usb device supposed to be automatically mounted?
[11:20] <TheSilentW> hello everyone, anyone has or can explain me how to install emule xtreme mod on ubuntu? normal emule gets loads of junk, and this xtreme mod has functions agaisnt it
[11:20] <zaggynl> !usb
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <Jordan_U> xonecas, sudo apt-get install bcm43xxfwcutter or just install fwcutter from synaptic, it will ask you if you want to automatically get the firmware for your card, choose yes
[11:20] <TheSilentW> zaggynl yes, mine is
[11:20] <xonecas> Jordan_U:  thanks
[11:21] <zaggynl> my usbstick won't mount :/
[11:21] <TheSilentW> zaggynl does your pen has those new auto bypasses for windows, that fool the OS into thinking is a autorun cd ?
[11:21] <zaggynl> I deleted that
[11:21] <zaggynl> I think it's corrupted or something, can't even manuall mount
[11:21] <TheSilentW> well
[11:21] <TheSilentW> it is not just files
[11:22] <TheSilentW> it is in the boot section of the usb drive
[11:22] <xonecas> dystopianray_:  by any chance do you kept a log of our chat ? i would like to have as reference
[11:22] <TheSilentW> so, you should not have deleted it
[11:22] <zaggynl> Well, delete...I used the manufacture's removal tool.
[11:22] <TheSilentW> zaggynl, i never had such pen, but, i read alot about it, check if you can put it back, and find a workaround for linux
[11:23] <TheSilentW> zaggynl, if i remember correctly, it mounts as usb drive, then when windows finds it, it changes to
[11:23] <TheSilentW> CD type
[11:23] <TheSilentW> to make it autorun
[11:23] <zaggynl> yeah
[11:24] <TheSilentW> ubuntu might see that change as crash of the pen
[11:24] <TheSilentW> or something
[11:24] <zaggynl> It used to work on dapper
[11:24] <TheSilentW> hmm
[11:24] <zaggynl> dmesg says, 'yay! usb device'
[11:24] <TheSilentW> lol
[11:24] <Lunar_Lamp> The topic here says "release date is the week of April 19", which I find a slightly confusing date. Does this mean release is Thursday?
[11:24] <dystopianray_> xonecas: i have a log of my time spent in this channel
[11:24] <zaggynl> mount says 'broken! mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc,       missing codepage or other error"
[11:24] <TheSilentW> exactly
[11:25] <TheSilentW> windows ignores those
[11:25] <TheSilentW> ubuntu might be smarter
[11:25] <TheSilentW> well, i am new to linux, so i cant really help you
[11:25] <`sam`> Lunar_Lamp, i think that just means it will be released sometime this week
[11:26] <TheSilentW> just general info xD
[11:26] <Lunar_Lamp> `sam`, is there any target date that is public though?
[11:26] <`sam`> Lunar_Lamp, all i know is what people are saying in this channel and in the topic
[11:27] <Lunar_Lamp> ok :-)
[11:27] <Lunar_Lamp> Thanks.
[11:27] <dystopianray_> Lunar_Lamp: the only known date is april 19, which it is unlikely to make
[11:27] <TheSilentW> guys, if i download the C++ sources for emule but that i think are for windows, is it possible to compile them to linux?
[11:27] <BluesKaj> I compiled wine , it installed ok, but it won't launch....anyone have this experience ?
[11:27] <void^> TheSilentW: no.
[11:27] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: you want to compile the windows source into a linux executable?
[11:27] <dystopianray_> void^: winelib could do it
[11:27] <TheSilentW> well, its emule i dont know
[11:28] <richb> BluesKaj: Won't launch?
[11:28] <TheSilentW> emule works on linux, but i really dont know if they actually work for that release
[11:28] <BluesKaj> nope
[11:28] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: winelib could possibly do it, but why bother, just get the linux source
[11:28] <TMH_> oh, also, after upgrading to feisty, i noticed that hitting ctrl-left and right in a terminal no longer skips you along a word, but echoes 5D and 5C for ctrl-left and ctrl-right into the terminal
[11:28] <BluesKaj> amule works fine
[11:28] <void^> dystopianray_: he might save himself some time and run the win32 executable in wine. or use unix software instead.
[11:28] <TMH_> i am using en-gb, if that helps
[11:28] <TMH_> the terminal i am using is gnome-terminal
[11:29] <dystopianray_> void^: yes that would be preferable
[11:29] <TheSilentW> dystopianray_, i would, but the emule network is full of crap, fake downloads, etc,etc, the distro i have has some systems against those files, but they only provide windows .exes
[11:30] <arejay> I wish there was a way to set up AP priortys in network manager, it always seems to want to connect to my neighbors AP by default (because its un-secure)
[11:30] <dystopianray_> arejay: it should prioritise trusted newtorks
[11:30] <dystopianray_> networks
[11:30] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: use wine
[11:30] <arejay> dystopianray_, not for me, i hafta manually select mine, and then enter my password into my keyring manager
[11:31] <dystopianray_> arejay: does it consider your neighbour's wifi as trusted?
[11:31] <TheSilentW> dystopianray_, good idea, lets see if i can get at least this working xD all my wine attempts = error
[11:31] <arejay> dystopianray_, maybe, i've connected to it before, how do i unset trusted networks?
[11:31] <dystopianray_> arejay: I only know how to do it in knetworkmanager
[11:31] <arejay> ah.
[11:31] <dystopianray_> arejay: the right-click menu has a trusted networks thing somewhere
[11:32] <`sam`> has anybody here set up a usb drive to act as a key to login?
[11:32] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: I have had lots of success with wine and various games
[11:33] <`sam`> i had it working once, but if my computer was idle and the gnome-screensaver started then i'd have to kill X to log back in, it wouldn't work from gnome-screensaver
[11:33] <TheSilentW> dystopianray_, i have read that you need to custumize it, and have read that if u change the default files with true windows files u get better results, but its way out of my knowledge yet
[11:34] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: in order to get emule working?
[11:34] <TheSilentW> dystopianray_, emule or other programs/games
[11:34] <TheSilentW> dystopianray_, read it on a cedega flame post xD
[11:35] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1065
[11:35] <TheSilentW> nice
[11:37] <Jordan_U> `sam`, I can suggest that instead of killing X you could go to a tty and log in and kill gnome-screensaver
[11:38] <`sam`> Jordan_U, yeah that would have probably worked too, but i'd rather not have to do either
[11:38] <BluesKaj> I've followed the compile and install instructions , but wine won't run/launch , whatever the word is.
[11:39] <richb> BluesKaj: What error does it give?
[11:39] <Jordan_U> `sam`, How does the usb drive log in work? Is there simply a key / password on the root of the drive? Is this an official feature pr a hack?
[11:39] <richb> Paste it somewhere if it is multi line.
[11:39] <BluesKaj> no error ...it doesn't lasunch
[11:39] <Jordan_U> or*
[11:40] <TheSilentW> dystopianray_, guess what? it run on first try, gona try to download some file :)
[11:40] <richb> BluesKaj: Mm?
[11:40] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: cool
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Usage: wine PROGRAM [ARGUMENTS...]    Run the specified program
[11:40] <BluesKaj>        wine --help                   Display this help and exit
[11:40] <BluesKaj>        wine --version                Output version information and exit
[11:40] <dystopianray_> BluesKaj: that shows it running fine
[11:40] <richb> You need to run the program
[11:40] <`sam`> Jordan_U, with pam_usb, here is where i got info on how to do it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17571
[11:40] <richb> wine somecrappywindows.exe
[11:42] <TheSilentW> dystopianray_, is it possible to overrun the poor graphics it has?
[11:42] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: poor graphics?
[11:42] <TheSilentW> dystopianray_, yeah, seems like an old mac 1 program
[11:43] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: it should just look like a windows program
[11:43] <TheSilentW> dystopianray_, i think they call it gtk 1
[11:43] <TheSilentW> dystopianray_, i know linux users think really bad of windows, but, cmon xD
[11:43] <arejay> hrm, quick question about svn, if i've already downloaded something from a svn repo is there a easy way to update the source without having to type the whole svn repo name?
[11:43] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: it has the windows classic look
[11:43] <arejay> kinda like how CVS works?
[11:44] <TheSilentW> dystopianray_, windows isnt THAT bad in terms of graphics
[11:44] <crdlb> arejay, svn update
[11:44] <dystopianray_> arejay: svn update
[11:44] <arejay> doh!
[11:44] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: it's a little darker, but it's basically just windows classic
[11:44] <Jordan_U> TheSilentW, You can use windows theme files with wine, I suggest clearlooks
[11:45] <TheSilentW> Jordan_U, hmm where can i find those?
[11:46] <TheSilentW> i had a wine icon on my applications menu, but...it is gone ><
[11:46] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: you can install themes through winecfg
[11:46] <TheSilentW> and now i have a crossover program, that i think does same as whine
[11:46] <Jordan_U> TheSilentW, http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/18591720/ use winecfg to use the theme
[11:46] <TheSilentW> dystopianray_, run that from console?
[11:47] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: run it from anywehre
[11:47] <TheSilentW> where else is possible to run it than console?
[11:47] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: alt+f2
[11:47] <TheSilentW> dystopianray_, but i mean, does it have a gui?
[11:47] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: yes
[11:47] <TheSilentW> ok thx
[11:48] <TheSilentW> btw, i am starting to love the console
[11:48] <dystopianray_> well you should, it is very powerful
[11:48] <TheSilentW> i know
[11:48] <TheSilentW> i nearly do everything from there
[11:49] <TheSilentW> with files
[11:49] <TheSilentW> and app installs etc
[11:49] <TheSilentW> svn
[11:49] <TheSilentW> windows should have one too
[11:49] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: you can get the monad shell for windows from microsoft
[11:49] <xonecas> hello, can someone help me out partitioning my drive to install feisty ?
[11:49] <TheSilentW> its console kinda...
[11:50] <TheSilentW> dystopianray_, i tryed that, but i never could get it workin
[11:50] <Jordan_U> TheSilentW, You can get Cygwin, but it's just not the same
[11:50] <TheSilentW> dystopianray_, that and the XNA game dev engine, 2 thinks that rox, but could get working
[11:50] <dystopianray_> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologies/management/powershell/default.mspx
[11:50] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: XNA is stupid, 50MB limit and it's subscription based
[11:50] <TheSilentW> cygwin was really odd for me, i never really understood how to open it
[11:51] <arejay> How do i make a debian package out of a kernel module that i've patched myself in the linux-source?
[11:51] <arejay> anyone :)
[11:51] <TheSilentW> XNA is for windows, and for visual studio, but, if u have a full version of visual studio, payed, u cant open it, u have to download a trial version of same program
[11:51] <TheSilentW> windows vista
[11:51] <TheSilentW> i mean
[11:53] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: there is a project to implement XNA on mono
[11:53] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: http://code.google.com/p/monoxna/
[11:54] <TheSilentW> Jordan_U, that site is for a clearlooks for windows, kinda of making your windows look like linux isnt it?
[11:54] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: well you do want wine to look more like linux don't you?
[11:54] <TheSilentW> dystopianray_, nice
[11:54] <TheSilentW> yes
[11:54] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: so install the them in wine
[11:55] <dystopianray_> gnome icons are so ugly though, why do they have so much brown in them?
[11:55] <TheSilentW> so, that one is for windows, but for linux?
[11:55] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: wine can use windows theme stuff
[11:55] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: install it through winecfg
[11:55] <TheSilentW> ok, btw will it change my ubuntu screen or just a wine only desktop
[11:56] <TheSilentW> never used this so
[11:56] <zPacKRat> need help getting dvd playback working with an up to date feisty install
[11:56] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW:  just wine
[11:56] <TheSilentW> ok
[11:56] <zPacKRat> I've installed libdvdcss2 and libdvdread3
[11:56] <Jordan_U> zPacKRat, install xine
[11:57] <zPacKRat> still a no go in totem
[11:57] <Jordan_U> zPacKRat, Totem-gstreamer can't do DVD's
[11:57] <Jordan_U> zPacKRat, You need to use xine VLC or Mplayer
[11:57] <zPacKRat> wow, what a pile
[11:58] <TheSilentW> Jordan_U, dystopianray_ got it installed :)
[11:58] <Jordan_U> Does Feisty use Devicescape?
[11:58] <TheSilentW> it will only update a wine window after i restart it right?
[11:59] <zPacKRat> Jordan_U: thanks!
[12:01] <RedRose> Is there any way i can build a module for modprobe without having to recompile the entire kernel?
[12:02] <Stormx2> RedRose: You don't need to recompile it do you? You just need the source
[12:02] <Vanuatoo> When I try to boot 7.04 livecd it dumps to shell
[12:02] <Vanuatoo> I've got Asus P5B Deluxe Motherboard
[12:02] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: what video card do you have?
[12:02] <RedRose> Stormx2, Idk... Lol... truecrypt needs a kernel module, and all the guides say i need to recompile to kernel to get a .mo file
[12:02] <Vanuatoo> dystopianray_: I've got Nvidia 7600GS
[12:03] <Vanuatoo> I don't think it's related to video
[12:03] <BluesKaj> ok dystopianray_ here's the errors generated upon launching wine and IE from the Konsole :  http://www.pastebin.ca/443619
[12:03] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[12:03] <Vanuatoo> dystopianray_: same symptoms for gentoo livecd that does not use X at all
[12:03] <dystopianray_> BluesKaj: use ies4linux
[12:04] <|NewUser|> When ever i start my Fiesty in start its got stuck on " checking file system " and after that.. " dosfsck 2,11, 17 Apr 2007, fat32, LFN. No FSINFO sector NOt automatically creating it, /dev/sda1: 1000054 files, 667795/126655 " this happens with all FAT32 Partition coz of this my startup is too much slow :< what should i do ? to fix it?
[12:04] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: well I need more information to know why X doesn't start
[12:04] <crdlb> Vanuatoo, what symptoms are those?
[12:04] <Vanuatoo> some strange errors and dumping to single user shell
[12:05] <BluesKaj> dystopianray_, it's merely an example of the problem...I don't really need to IE ...get it ?
[12:05] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: pastebin the errors
[12:05] <dystopianray_> BluesKaj: what problem?
[12:05] <iocaste> anyone know where Pan stores subscribed newsgroups? i've upgraded to Feisty and I've lost my subscriptions. Thought there may be a .newsrc file but there's nothing there.
[12:05] <Vanuatoo> dystopianray_: I can't save that errors
[12:05] <Vanuatoo> how do I pastebin them
[12:05] <Vanuatoo> write down with the pen?
[12:05] <dystopianray_> !pastebin | Vanuatoo
[12:05] <ubotu> Vanuatoo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:05] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: yeah that'll work
[12:06] <TheSilentW> dystopianray_, how do i make linux auto open a .exe file with wine?
[12:06] <Vanuatoo> I know that it's related to ICH8R chipset
[12:06] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: change your file associations so wine handles .exe files
[12:06] <Vanuatoo> IDE Controller
[12:06] <|NewUser|> can someone help ?
[12:06] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: are you using the latest daily livecd snapshot?
[12:07] <|NewUser|> my fiesty get hang on startup
[12:07] <TheSilentW> dystopianray_, yeah, but i never did that, where can i do that?
[12:07] <Vanuatoo> and that support has been added in 2.6.20 kernels
[12:07] <RedRose> I have a problem with my audio, where it will not play loud. Or "Normal". I have to run a command
[12:07] <RedRose> gnome-volume-manager
[12:07] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: I don't know how to do it in gnome
[12:07] <crdlb> TheSilentW, right click on an .exe and click properties
[12:07] <RedRose> Wrong command... kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*) ; sudo modprobe -r$
[12:07] <crdlb> then look on the open with tab
[12:07] <TheSilentW> ok, thx crdlb
[12:07] <Vanuatoo> dystopianray_: I'm going to wait for the final release and try that
[12:07] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: feisty uses 2.6.20
[12:07] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: what release are you using now?
[12:08] <Vanuatoo> I'm using Windows vista right now :)
[12:08] <Vanuatoo> And want to get rid of it
[12:08] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: what release did you use that didn't work?
[12:08] <misfit-toy> the silence is deafening, with the latest kernel and nvidia-glx running on this old laptop, my fans are no longer blaring all day long, it's quiet as a mouse, very cool.
[12:08] <Vanuatoo> But unfortunately no linux can be installed on my computer
[12:08] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: what feisty release did you use?
[12:08] <Vanuatoo> dystopianray_: I used 7.04 alpha and 7.04 beta
[12:08] <RedRose> Grrrr... kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*) ; sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}') && sudo modprobe snd-hda-codec && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=auto
[12:09] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: if you try a daily livecd snapshot you might be able ot get a fix in before the final
[12:09] <Vanuatoo> dystopianray_: Could you please tell me from where should I download it?
[12:09] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Vanuatoo, don't bother asking questions in here ...the only answers you're going to get from him are more questions
[12:10] <|NewUser|> can i repeat my question or wait for someone will reply ?
[12:10] <dystopianray_> BluesKaj: hey I've helped a lot of people in here today, you're just an idiot who doesn't ask questions properly
[12:10] <TheVault> I really need some help. When I finally gotten Ndiswrapper working with my driver, Network Manager automatically picked up the settings & things and I have wireless. When I first connected to my wireless network, the keyring manager asked me for a password to save the password for my connection. So now everytime I boot into Ubuntu, the first thing the pops up is the keyring manager, is there anyway to keep the password or to stor
[12:10] <TheVault> e my main master password or something so that stops popping up everytime I boot into Ubuntu?
[12:11] <misfit_toy> TheVault, there is a workaround for that, let me see if I can find it....
[12:12] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: there will likely only be minor package updates from the latest snapshot to the feisty final, so updating to final will be easy if that installs
[12:12] <TheVault> misfit_toy: Thank you. So what I'm trying to do, say my password is 12345(its not) and instead of me entering it in each time, its already entered in and it automatically logs me into my wireless
[12:12] <greig_> whats the chances of a web cam driver working on fiesty when it didnt work on 6.10??
[12:13] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: although, you say that it only gives you a shell when you boot the livecd?
[12:13] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: try updating the nv driver on the livecd and starting X again
[12:13] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: $ sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nv
[12:13] <TheVault> greig_:No idea. Wish I could help you. I tried getting a webcam to work in 6.10 and had absolutely no luck
[12:13] <Vanuatoo> dystopianray_: The problem is not in X
[12:14] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: how can it not be X if X doens't start?
[12:14] <greig_> thevault : it wasnt a trust web cam by anychance was it?
[12:14] <misfit-toy> TheVault, http://johnny.chadda.se/2007/02/21/unlock-the-gnome-keyring-upon-login/
[12:14] <Vanuatoo> I will post the errors in here tom through pastebin
[12:14] <richb> greig_: Google to see if there is a driver for it.
[12:14] <TheVault> greig_: No, it was a longitech quickcam
[12:14] <Vanuatoo> dystopianray_: So you're saying that if the installer has a problem it must be X?
[12:14] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: you said that you get a shell from the livecd, so use that to run the commands i suggested
[12:14] <TheVault> misfit-toy: Thank you very much. Lemme see if this can cure my problem.
[12:15] <misfit-toy> TheVault, it will, and mark that site there are good tips there.
[12:15] <greig_> the vault : i'll give it a try
[12:15] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: you're saying that X does start?
[12:15] <Vanuatoo> dystopianray_: no
[12:15] <Vanuatoo> I'm saying that installer cannot be started
[12:15] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: what is the error?
[12:15] <Vanuatoo> The menu is displayed, I choose start or install ubuntu
[12:15] <Vanuatoo> and there are errors
[12:15] <TheVault> misfit-toy: Yeah I do bookmark all sites that I find useful, just in case I remove ubuntu for some reason, then later install it, I have all my resources all in one place
[12:15] <Vanuatoo> dystopianray_: I don't remember right now
[12:15] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: you said you get dumped to a single-user shell
[12:16] <|NewUser|> when ever i start my Fiesty in start its got stuck on " checking file system " and after that.. " dosfsck 2,11, 17 Apr 2007, fat32, LFN. No FSINFO sector NOt automatically creating it, /dev/sda1: 1000054 files, 667795/126655 " this happens with all FAT32 Partition coz of this my startup is too much slow :< what should i do ? to fix it? Plz Someone can help me?
[12:16] <Vanuatoo> I'll try to do the same tom and post errors
[12:16] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: at what point is it failing? while the kernel is loading?
[12:16] <misfit-toy> TheVault, I have a cron job set to copy all my bookmarks to a usb stick drive every night after bed, I"m paranoid, heheh.
[12:16] <misfit-toy> bbl
[12:17] <richb> |NewUser|: could you post your /etc/fstab somewhere?
[12:17] <Vanuatoo> dystopianray_: I don't remember, I did it some time ago. Just wanted to check in here if anyone get the same error with P5B Deluxe
[12:17] <TheVault> misfit-toy: Nice. Also, this is exactly what I'm looking for, Thanks for the excellent find. Now hopefully, it fixes the annoying problem
[12:17] <Vanuatoo> I've searched bugzilla but found nothing
[12:17] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: have you checked the forums or posted your own bug?
[12:17] <TheSilentW> dystopianray_, about that changing wines files with real MS files, would it work?
[12:18] <Vanuatoo> dystopianray_: I'm going to post the bug tomorrow if anything goes wrong
[12:18] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: it can
[12:18] <TheSilentW> dystopianray_, never saw anything like it?
[12:18] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: goes wrong with the daily snapshot?
[12:18] <dystopianray_> TheSilentW: I have, but I don't know much about it
[12:18] <Vanuatoo> dystopianray_: exactly
[12:18] <Shaddox> I'm on the daily 20070414 snapshot.
[12:18] <TheSilentW> dystopianray_,  ok
[12:18] <TheVault> misfit-toy: So I add that codeing at the very bottom of the file its telling me to edit?
[12:18] <dystopianray_> Vanuatoo: if you had posted a bug when you first saw this issue it'd likely have been fixed already
[12:19] <Vanuatoo> dystopianray_: I'm downloading the image right now
[12:19] <|NewUser|> richb ; sure let me paste on pastebin
[12:19] <|NewUser|> richb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16027/
[12:19] <Shaddox> I need help setting my BIND up. I created a zone in Webmin, but my registrar says it's not registered as a DNS.
[12:20] <TheVault> misfit-toy: Never mind, I got it....now to see if this works
[12:21] <TheVault> misfit-toy: Sweet it works. Thanks again
[12:22] <richb> |newuser| Mm, no fat32 in there.
[12:22] <misfit-toy> TheVault, very cool, np
[12:22] <|NewUser|> richb: yes i saw that.. but i have fat32 partitions in this HD
[12:22] <TheVault> misfit-toy: Gotta love the power of google bookmarks. Works across all your computers :D
[12:22] <|NewUser|> richb: i have Vista on Fat32 And one more fat32 partition for some files.
[12:23] <misfit-toy> TheVault, yessirree
[12:23] <TheVault> :D
[12:23] <richb> |newuser| mm I don't know to be honest.
[12:23] <|NewUser|> richb: newmind dude :)
[12:23] <|NewUser|> richb:  i will try to ask.. maybe someone can help
[12:24] <richb> |NewUser|: Aye, I have not used windows for ages so I am not really qualified.
[12:24] <marshall> hey guys
[12:24] <Shaddox> I used to use windows till 3 days ago, what's the problem |Newuser| ?
[12:24] <marshall> how do you set the number of desktops in gnome?
[12:24] <marshall> i had it at 4 before but it keeps resetting to 1 on me
[12:25] <crdlb> marshall, right-click on the workspace switcher
[12:25] <|NewUser|> richb: i have redhat9 too.. in another ext3 partition.. but its fine when i start my pc thereis no fsck for ext3 partition.. but something problem with Fat32 partitions
[12:25] <marshall> crdlb: lol you mean the pager applet for the gnome panel?
[12:25] <crdlb> yes
[12:26] <richb> |NewUser|: It sounds like it is trying to be clever and mount the fat32 partitions on boot, not really sure beyond that
[12:26] <marshall> crdlb: ok, i dont have that applet running right now, do i have to have it?
[12:26] <crdlb> marshall, that's how you have to set it
[12:26] <|NewUser|> richb: so can i ? tell anyhow that dont try to mount on bootup?
[12:26] <crdlb> so I guess so
[12:27] <marshall> crdlb: ok
[12:27] <|NewUser|> richb: is there anyway ? when i boot my system. . so ubuntu just check my root / partition ?
[12:28] <richb> |NewUser|: Not sure.
[12:28] <|NewUser|> whenever i restart my computer i got this problem.. and with this.. my system get hanged for some time