[00:00] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, where are mounted file systems on ubuntu?
[00:00] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: where you mounted them to
[00:00] <testuser1_____> I just want to copy the "/home" directory off
[00:01] <testuser1_____> the live CD shows "TMP SSD" on the desktop but I don't find it in "/mnt"
[00:01] <tomreyn> well you just made file system of your previous linux installation available at /target, inclduing all of its directories
[00:01] <tomreyn> * made _the_
[00:01] <testuser1_____> yes the files are in /target but how to copy to "TMP SSD"?
[00:04] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: it's mounted to "/media/ubuntu/TMP SSD" according to line 24 of https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZrKqm4jwJC/
[00:04] <tomreyn> you can also use th "mount" command to see mounted file systems
[00:09] <testuser1_____> awesome!
[00:10] <testuser1_____> I reformatted "TMP SSD" to ext4, remounted it to /mnt and am using rsync to copy it to there from /target
[00:10] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: okay, in the meantime you can:  cat /target/etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:14] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, thank you so much for your help! https://termbin.com/xusds
[00:15] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: you'd be welcome if you'd been running ubuntu
[00:16] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, sorry :(
[00:17] <jcotton> rekt
[00:17] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, isn't it 99% the same?
[00:18] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: irrelevant, we only support ubuntu users here.
[00:18] <tomreyn> testuser1_____: you previously asked for help here using a different nickname, and it turned out you're using pop os then, and you were told this channel is just for ubuntu support.
[00:20] <tomreyn> there is ##linux where volunteers support multiple distros.
[00:22] <testuser1_____> tomreyn, I didn't see that it is strictly for ubuntu but I have no excuse - I'm in the wrong and should have known; I do know now ubuntu support is good and may just switch to ubuntu when I re-install (install the system76 drivers afterwards)
[00:22] <analogical> testuser1_____, and please clean up your nick!!
[00:22] <pragmaticenigma> testuser1_____: Also, System76 offers lifetime support included with the purchase of your system. You're literally throwing away money but not having used them first
[00:23] <bluezinc> pragmaticenigma: do they actually offer _good_ support?
[00:23] <nyc> I'm still having ibus trouble.
[00:23] <apprentice__> I'm just trying to support the linux ecosystem as a whole
[00:24] <apprentice__> they seem to be pushing ubuntu so it increase mindshare for ubuntu
[00:25] <nyc> After migrating from fcitx to ibus, ibus doesn't appear to be capable of actually switching the codepoints it emits. The panel logo says it's switched to Russian, Hebrew, Greek, Arabic, etc. but it still emits Latin codepoints when typing.
[00:26] <pragmaticenigma> apprentice__: It's appreciated. The difficult part is when support is offered for something outside of Ubuntu, even though it's similar to Ubuntu, things get out of hand. So it's appreciated that you desire to support the open source community, just understand that some forums are more specialized than others.
[00:27] <bluezinc> my question then becomes: why did they feel the need to make a distro that's _almost_ ubuntu, but not quite.
[00:28] <apprentice__> phone
[00:28] <nyc> I'm having this trouble on 18.04.2 ibus version 1.5.17-3ubuntu4
[00:28] <pragmaticenigma> bluezinc: This channel is dedicated to Ubuntu support questions. If you have a support related question please feel free to ask. If you would like to discuss other non-support related topics, please join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:29] <nyc> mate-desktop version 1.20.1-2ubuntu1
[00:30] <bluezinc> pragmaticenigma: nah.
[00:31] <bluezinc> 1. this _is_ about ubuntu.
[00:31] <bluezinc> 2. You started this tangent.
[00:32] <nyc> I have an Ubuntu support question about an ibus issue happening on 18.04.2
[00:32] <pragmaticenigma> bluezinc: you are attempting to have a discussion, please stop
[00:32] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | nyc
[00:33] <bluezinc> pragmaticenigma: I'd like to thank you for making the linux community a little bit more insuffrable.
[00:34] <jcb2016> how do i format a usb to ntfs-3g?
[00:36] <pragmaticenigma> nyc: Right now it looks like if things were working with fcitx, it would have been better to have stayed with that. From what I've searched online, it appears Gnome has some limitations when working with iBus
[00:37] <nyc> pragmaticenigma: I was moving to ibus for tegaki, but maybe it's just not there yet?
[00:38] <pragmaticenigma> nyc: My thought is it's a significant core component, and I'm not sure migrating from one to the other is easily done. It might be something that needs to be setup from a clean install?
[00:39] <nyc> I don't have backup media for a clean install. :( I think ibus is actually the default, though.
[00:43] <Kuwanger> Anyone here know of a good resource for trying to read the information the oom killer spits out so I can understand how with 32GB of RAM, ~23GB of that used as cache, and 4GB of unused swap my system still wants to kill processes when I run rsync?
[00:45] <nyc> There is an anomaly that might give a hint: it says the language support isn't installed completely in Preferences -> Language Support and lists a bunch of fcitx packages to install.
[00:46] <pragmaticenigma> nyc: sounds like you found a path forward?
[00:47] <nyc> Not exactly. I'm at least trying to migrate to ibus for tegaki input.
[00:53] <Kuwanger> I mean, I'd think having 215MB in 16KB pages for DMA32 range and 496MB in 16KB pages for Normal range would be enough: https://pastebin.com/bBkxwXG9
[00:56]  * apprentice__ still on phone, but wonders why Canonical doesn't buy System76 and call it their offical hardware brand, at least for consumers
[00:59] <abel> Hi everyone
[00:59] <snadge> my pc is randomly freezing when running ubuntu 19.04, but has been perfectly stable in 18.10 and windows for years.. memory tests fine
[00:59] <snadge> unfortunately theres nothing in the logs, to indicate why this might be happening.. and it can take up to 24 hours or more, for it to happen
[01:00] <snadge> i even clean installed to see if it might be related to upgrade.. and it crashed again
[01:00] <abel> Please, does anyone know how to install the Snes9x emulator on mint19.1?
[01:00] <pragmaticenigma> abel: Sorry, neither of those items are supported here.
[01:00] <snadge> im about to blow away 19.04 and just go back to 18.04.2 LTS, even though 18.10 was perfectly fine.. it will become unsupported :(
[01:00] <apprentice__> snadge, it seems like a hardware problem
[01:01] <abel> Ok, sorry guys.
[01:01] <snadge> i was running kernel 5 and padoka ppa on 18.10 .. also with no issues
[01:01] <pragmaticenigma> snadge: what about SMART status on the harddrive? Is windows still dual booted on the system, and does it experience freezes?
[01:01] <snadge> windows is fine, and i have other versions of ubuntu that aren't 19.04 that also seem to be fine
[01:02] <pragmaticenigma> snadge: Do you have nvidia or amd gpus?
[01:02] <snadge> its an amd gpu, rx580 and amd cpu 8350
[01:02] <nyc> Should I try upgrading to 19.04 and see if it clobbers enough of the config file state to incidentally repair it?
[01:02] <snadge> so no proprietary drivers installed
[01:03] <snadge> ironically it seems similar to this guys report.. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2417456
[01:03] <snadge> where my hard drive is flashing periodically, except sysrq doesn't work for me.. and i can't even ping it
[01:04] <pragmaticenigma> snadge: have you attempted to have a secondary system ssh'd in and running top (or similar) to see if any process jumps to the top for CPU or high I/O usage?
[01:05] <snadge> thats not a bad idea.. i was thinking of setting up a network console, but i've just never had to do any kind of remote crash monitoring before.. or network console etc
[01:06] <snadge> if ping stops working then i dont have high hopes for it being successful anyway.. maybe serial? that involves hardware though
[01:07] <pragmaticenigma> snadge: what I'm hoping is that just prior to the freeze, the culprit is on top and the connection drops leaving you with a snapshot prior to the freeze
[01:07] <snadge> yeah.. maybe its a kernel panic or oops that i don't get the opportunity to see because its not written to disk
[01:08] <snadge> another option would be to ctrl-alt-f1 and leave the pc like that and hope that it crashes whilst in that state.. with a full desktop with firefox/discord etc running
[01:08] <pragmaticenigma> yeah, that might work too
[01:10] <snadge> im tempted to rig up a serial console
[01:10] <tomreyn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging#Kernel_Debugging_Tools.2FInformation lists some options incl. netconsole and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelDebuggingTricks discusses serial (though some instructions may be a bit outdated)
[01:11] <tomreyn> also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash
[01:11] <tomreyn> what's your hardware, snadge ?
[01:12] <snadge> 990fx motherboard, 8350 cpu, rx580 gpu
[01:12] <snadge> ive had it for a very long time and its been incredibly stable which is one of the reasons ive been reluctant to upgrade it
[01:13] <tomreyn> that's amd fx-8350?
[01:14] <snadge> yes
[01:15] <tomreyn> that's pre-zen, right?
[01:15] <snadge> if worst comes to worst i can just go back to 18.04 LTS.. but this is the first ubuntu release that i've experienced system freezes with since 2012 :P
[01:15] <snadge> ive ran them all
[01:16] <snadge> yes.. its http://cpuboss.com/cpu/AMD-FX-8350
[01:18] <tomreyn> i wouldn't expect this to happen either.
[01:19] <tomreyn> i guess i'd do the serial console
[01:21] <snadge> i just need something to plug it into.. maybe my laptop? eg.. two usb to serial adaptors.. and a erm.. null modem cable?
[01:21] <tomreyn> snadge: so just to verify this, you said that after experiencing freezes on ubuntu 19.04, you tried other systems which did not freeze, even after running them twice as long as ubuntu 19.04?
[01:21] <tomreyn> yes that's correst, as weird as it sounds.
[01:22] <snadge> well i've only just installed 19.04 .. im in windows at the moment, im happy to leave it for a few days but I don't expect it to freeze
[01:22] <snadge> i just dont like using windows :P
[01:22] <tomreyn> maybe you coud install ubuntu 18.04.2 on an external storage and boot from that for a while?
[01:22] <snadge> i have a spare partition that i can happily install 18.04 on
[01:23] <nyc> I'm only upgrading from 18.04 to 18.10 in the hopes the fcitx, ibus, etc. state will get incidentally cleaned up by the upgrade process.
[01:23] <snadge> yeah i'll do that.. and look into getting the serial cables etc
[01:28] <[itchyjunk]> Hi, how would I create a new text file in ubuntu 18.04. There is no options such as "Right click -> New file" ?
[01:30] <nyc> 18.10 breaks up ibus into packages differently, so the odds are significant.
[01:31] <pragmaticenigma> [itchyjunk]: You open the program you would like to edit/create the file in, and save to the directory
[01:32] <stevendale> Every release of Ubuntu after 10.04 was rubbish
[01:32] <stevendale> Every release of Mint prior to 17.2 was rubbish
[01:32] <[itchyjunk]> I am trying to open a text file to write some stuff down. I was doing `pico -w file.txt` but was wondering if there is an easier way GUI wise.
[01:33] <pragmaticenigma> [itchyjunk]: This might help add the feature https://vitux.com/add-new-document-back-to-the-right-click-menu-in-ubuntu-18-04/
[01:33] <dax> stevendale: you got lost on the way to #ubuntu-offtopic i think
[01:33] <pragmaticenigma> [itchyjunk]: it appears that if you create a "template" in the "Templates" directory, it will enable the right click menu. The template file can be an empty file
[01:34] <stevendale> dax: Yeah I did lol sorry
[01:34] <stevendale> !offtopic | stevendale
[01:34] <hggdh> stevendale: that's good enough for now
[01:37] <[itchyjunk]> pragmaticenigma, wow. it did it. it works. this was a weirdly satifying experience. glad i asked. thanks a lot o/
[01:37]  * [itchyjunk] runs around creating new text documents
[01:38] <[itchyjunk]> Although, the "new folder" asks for a name while this doesn't. Not that it matter but i wonder how it was achieved
[01:39] <pragmaticenigma> [itchyjunk]: if the file is highlighted after creation, you can easily press the F2 key to rename it
[01:40] <[itchyjunk]> I noticed the F2 shortcut when i rightclicked it to rename it.
[01:45] <nyc> 18.10 splits ibus into ibus-gtk and ibus-gtk3 which looks promising  regarding GNOME interoperability.
[01:55] <nyc> Should I upgrade all the way to 19.04? I think the .04 releases are the stable supported ones, right?
[01:55] <freshoutofbands> Hello
[01:56] <pragmaticenigma> nyc: 18.10 will lose support in the near future, so I'd say it'd be a good idea. Though given that you're testing a few things, I would highly recommend making a backup of your system, just in case
[01:57] <freshoutofbands> I got a quick question if I buy an older PC thats an i3 and has 4 gb of ram with a 250GB HDD will I be able to run regular ubuntu or not?
[01:57] <Pazooza> I stay with the LTS versions.
[01:57] <dax> nyc: april releases in even-numbered years are the ones with long-term support. so 16.04, 18.04, (future) 20.04, etc.
[01:58] <cfhowlett> freshoutofbands, possibly but note that lubuntu and to a lesser extent xubuntu are optimized for older hardware such as that
[01:58] <nyc> dax: Ah, well, I'll have to move to 20.04 ASAP then. What's the .10 vs. .04 support difference?
[01:59] <hggdh> nyc: LTS releases are supported for 5 years. Non-LTS for 9 MONTHS
[01:59] <cfhowlett> nyc, errr 20.04 comes out in 2020.  so unless you have a time machine handy, I'd suggest 18.04.  for now.
[01:59] <freshoutofbands> Okay thanks cfhwolett I just prefer ubuntu over lubuntu or xubuntu, but thats my preference
[01:59] <dax> nyc: there's a list of all support dates on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[01:59] <Bashing-om> nyc: As you have to ask ,, then upggrade response for 19.04 is No - and Yes - if in the xx.04 the xx is an even number.
[01:59] <guiverc> nyc, fyi:  ubuntu releases are yy.mm in nature; so 20.04 is expected 2020-april.
[02:00] <dax> (or if you want a picture, https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle )
[02:00] <cfhowlett> freshoutofbands, ubuntu should run on that so try it
[02:00] <freshoutofbands> thanks i got to spend 68 bucks but thats not bad at all I would say
[02:00] <nyc> cfhowlett: I'm hoping to clobber some fouled state with ibus configuration after migrating to it from fcitx by upgrading.
[02:01] <cfhowlett> nyc OK ... I think I understood part of that ..
[02:04] <nyc> Looks like I'll need to upgrade to 19.04 so the support interval doesn't expire.
[02:05] <cfhowlett> 18.04 has 5 years of support.  what you are on about?
[02:05] <guiverc> nyc 19.04 is a standard release, not a LTS  (not even year + april)
[02:05] <nyc> cfhowlett: I'm doing an upgrade to hopefully clobber enough of ibus' state so it works again and I can use tegaki.
[02:06] <cfhowlett> ahhh!  ok. i take it that 18.04 will NOT solve your issue??
[02:07] <nyc> cfhowlett: We can't figure out what's wrong with ibus after migrating back to it from fcitx, so the hope is that an upgrade will reorganize and just clean out enough of the configuration files to make ibus work again.
[02:08] <cfhowlett> nyc, ok.  I'm a bit surprised that a completely refreshed OS would be required to fix that.
[02:09] <nyc> cfhowlett: It's working around not actually being able to figure out the issue. In principle there should be some other way to fix it.
[02:10] <cfhowlett> might I suggest reaching out to ibus support explicitly
[02:10] <nyc> cfhowlett: The channel is pretty quiet.
[02:12] <cfhowlett> https://github.com/ibus/ibus/wiki   user and developer groups listed at bottom
[02:30] <mihai> hello
[02:31] <Guest85327> how are you
[02:42] <nyc> It's the moment of truth. Hopefully things will work okay.
[02:42] <nyc> Now rebooting...
[02:51] <bernyrd> nyc: WE CAN YELL IF YOU LIKE
[02:51] <bernyrd> oh
[02:51] <bernyrd> helo is there good tutorial on ubuntu cloud
[02:51] <bernyrd> I try to prep images to run myself, get very confuse
[02:51] <bernyrd> able to pass the cloud image and my generated iso in okay
[02:51] <bernyrd> but is there more explanation
[02:56] <cfhowlett> !cloud | bernyrd
[02:59] <nyc> Yay! The upgrade to 18.10 worked. I have Russian, Hebrew, Greek, Arabic, etc. input back.
[03:19] <nyc> Okay, now trying to upgrade from 18.10 to 19.04 is failing.
[03:21] <bernyrd> never had ubuntu in-place upgrade work
[03:21] <bernyrd> you are optimist
[03:24] <nyc> Ah, held packages were silently being failed on.
[03:29] <cfhowlett> congrats nyc
[03:30] <shan__> Endgame Day
[03:30] <shan__> Not going to use any social media until 6pm ist
[03:30] <nyc> Now I'm afraid to upgrade to 19.04 because I just got it working.
[03:33] <user01_73r14r4ng> assalamualaikum
[03:33] <shan> wa alaikum salam.
[03:34] <user01_73r14r4ng> hi i have question
[03:34] <user01_73r14r4ng> how to install kde in ubuntu ???
[03:34] <jcotton> you can either use Kubuntu, which has that built in
[03:34] <jcotton> or install KDE through apt
[03:35] <user01_73r14r4ng> this work ???
[03:35] <jcotton> former: yes, latter: probably
[03:35] <jcotton> never done it
[03:35] <nisstyre> user01_73r14r4ng: install kubuntu
[03:35] <nisstyre> that is the easiest approach for the average user
[03:35] <jcotton> Kubuntu will be smoother
[03:36] <shan> but if you wanna install it on an existing install... sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop
[03:36] <user01_73r14r4ng> ok thanks
[03:37] <neyder> hi, a lazy question, how i can generate boot animation on ubuntu?
[03:37] <shan> neyder: plymouth?
[03:37] <neyder> i didn't remeber that :-P
[03:37] <neyder> TY shan
[03:38] <shan> :P good luck with whatever it is you're doing neyder
[03:45] <amosbird> hmm, weechat on ubuntu doesn't behave properly
[03:54] <snadge> did ubuntu 18.04 get a new version of gnome or something? because it has the fat title bars, and a whole bunch of defaults that I don't like
[03:55] <snadge> eg.. the gnome-flashback session inherits the fat title bars, my default audio device selection is being ignored and a bunch of little things like that
[04:08] <guiverc> snadge, 18.04 LTS comes with GNOME 3.28; what version of gnome you're comparing it to I don't know (you didn't say)  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseAnnouncement
[04:15] <ornj> it's my understading that system utilities were reimplemented in python in ubuntu, that were originally written in C or perl.
[04:15] <ornj> am i remembering incorrectly?
[04:18] <nisstyre> ornj: give an example
[04:19]  * ornj shrugs
[04:19] <ornj> if i had a better idea i would just have googled lol
[04:19] <nisstyre> can't check then really
[04:20] <ornj> well, no, but if it's known that the canonical team made an effort to rewrite certain stuff in python...
[04:20] <ornj> :/
[04:21] <krytarik> Well, this certainly isn't something I've ever heard before.
[04:22] <ornj> i guess i must have imagined that, or misunderstood something
[04:23] <ornj> now it seems unlikely, given that it would have inherited all that stuff from debian
[04:23] <nyc> I mostly want to avoid getting too involved with more of userspace than I care about, but I would expect people who set up userspace to avoid interpreters, dynamic linking, etc. below some level of middleware.
[04:26] <ornj> maybe what i was thinking of was an effort to move from ptyhon 2.7 to 3
[04:42] <nyc> The EFI business with grub is making me nervous.
[04:43] <cfhowlett> you've already got ubuntu installed, yes?
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> it has been a few months since it happened, but this boot scroll doesnt work again: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1807818
[04:45] <nyc> cfhowlett: I'm moving from 18.10 to 19.04 so I'm still within the support window.
[04:46] <cfhowlett> right. so you're not really changing anything and the ubuntu install defaults should set you up with efi if needed
[04:47] <nyc> I'll worry less, then. =)
[04:52] <cfhowlett> but you DID backup all essential data first.  right?  RIGHT?
[04:55] <tatertots> upgrading...me to...good times
[04:56] <nyc> Yeah, backing up to what is the question. Here goes nothing!
[04:58] <jhelbling> its posslibe to change the sequence of /etc/network/if-up.d -Scripts?
[05:00] <jhelbling> *possible
[05:01] <nyc> Great news, спасибо!
[05:01] <nyc> I'm on 19.04 with ibus and a full suite of tegaki tools and input methods.
[05:18] <nyc> Thanks all!
[05:18] <laptop> hello is lubuntu fast enough to run to run on amd athlonx2 1.7 ghz 2 gb ram and nvidia graphics card
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> laptop: yes
[05:20] <laptop> what about lubuntu 19
[05:20] <laptop> i know there are some problems with kernel 5 and nvidia propietary drivers
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> laptop: best way to see if your machine can handle, is try it
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> laptop: and before you choose an ubuntu version, ask yourself what you really need, stability or latest ?
[05:23] <laptop> stability but I cannot install lubuntu on my machine, it breaks down when I try to install
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> laptop: some older machines might not like later kernels, that happens
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> laptop: try an 18.04 lubuntu?
[05:24] <laptop> it does not work with 18.04
[05:24] <laptop> it is so slow even with puppy linux
[05:24] <hydrian> Ello all
[05:24] <laptop> for some reason debian 9 is okay
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> laptop: did you try a 16.04 lubuntu or xubuntu?
[05:26] <hydrian> Got an odd issue with 16.04.6. I've been using kvm for months with no problem after the initial setup. Not after a reboot, none of my guests can get link-layer connection to the local network. (DHCP isn't working)
[05:26] <hydrian> I can see that my kbeth bridge is up.
[05:26] <hydrian> At a loss of what to check.
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: desktop or server?
[05:27] <guiverc> laptop, i'd suggest verifying your install media (lubuntu install) if you haven't already done it - verify download & write-to-thumb-drive was all good
[05:27] <hydrian> googling has been no lep so far
[05:27] <hydrian> lotuspsychje: server
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> hydrian: come join to #ubuntu-server mate, likeminded volunteers might know
[05:27] <hydrian> cool bean.
[05:32] <lycipher> I want to embed my Linux application into distro. So people could install OS with application installed and configured. Is it difficult to do so?
[05:33] <lotuspsychje_> lycipher: try cubic
[05:37] <lycipher> Cubic seems like a good hint. Thanks
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> lycipher: did not test myself, but our crew seem to like it
[05:40] <lycipher> If it can resolve dependencies and embed them as well that would be osome
[06:01] <stoned> Hello
[06:01] <stoned> What is the proper way to install Oracle's jdk in ubuntu 18.04?
[06:02] <stoned> I am using some java software and it seems to work better/faster on oracle's jdk instead of openjdk
[06:02] <hydrian> What version of java 11 or 8?
[06:02] <stoned> I'm not sure!
[06:02] <stoned> 8 I suppose, since openjdk 8 is on my system already
[06:02] <stoned> want to replace it with oracle's 8
[06:03] <stoned> https://itsfoss.com/install-java-ubuntu/
[06:03] <stoned> I found this but I'm not sure about the ppa
[06:03] <stoned> ppa:webupd8team/java
[06:03] <stoned> DISCONTINUED
[06:04] <hydrian> yup. Oracle is being an ass again and changing their licensing mid-stream
[06:04] <stoned> The Oracle Java License has changed for releases starting April 16, 2019.
[06:08] <Bashing-om> stoned: See: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OpenJDK-11-Ubuntu-18.04 .
[06:16] <newdimension> Is /etc/cron.daily an anacron folder?
[06:31] <stoned> I sign up to oracle and download the jdk 8 and use make-jpkg to make a package
[06:32] <stoned> lets see how that goes
[06:32] <stoned> newdimension: dpkg -L anacon might show what files the package has
[06:33] <stoned> dpkg dpkg -L anacron|grep cron.daily
[06:33] <stoned> /etc/cron.daily
[07:11] <testpil0t> Hello. Is there nay way to inject received v6 routes (via ra) into a specific routing table using netplan?
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> testpil0t: are you on ubuntu-server?
[07:14] <testpil0t> yes
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> testpil0t: come join in #ubuntu-server please, likeminded volunteers might know
[07:14] <testpil0t> Thanks for the hint
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> welcome testpil0t
[07:19] <ducasse> testpil0t: #netplan might also be a better place to ask
[07:20] <testpil0t> thanks ducasse. I will wait a little. I dont want to spam all the chans with the same question :>
[07:31] <fly> 有人吗
[07:31] <fly> Is there
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> !zh | fly
[07:31] <ilos> indistylo: Hi there
[07:32] <Guest28477> Is there
[07:51] <basalt> hey, during upgrade to 19.04 all the configures ppa where disabled, i enabled now some of them and realized that there is no ppa for 19.04
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> basalt: we dont support external ppa's, wich package are you hunting for?
[07:52] <basalt> lotuspsychje: https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/vscode
[07:53] <basalt> lotuspsychje: i can re enable it again
[07:54] <basalt> lotuspsychje: the main question is, if there should also be a ppa for the current ubuntu version 19.04
[07:54] <ducasse> basalt: you need to contact the maintainer and ask
[08:07] <basalt> so there is no need to add any ppa for ubuntu 19.04 to get the updates from there
[08:15] <ducasse> basalt: since vscode is not in the repos you need a ppa to get updates, or use the snap
[08:20] <bazul> wello
[08:35] <angelcom> hello how can i install apache?
[08:37] <Ben64> sudo apt install apache2
[08:38] <angelcom> Ben64, thanks anyway php?
[08:38] <Ben64> huh?
[08:38] <angelcom> how? Ben64 ?
[08:39] <Ben64> have you tried googling things like "how to install lamp ubuntu"
[08:39] <angelcom> yeah many times
[08:39] <angelcom> :(
[08:39] <Ben64> all this will come up
[08:40] <angelcom> i can't believe something that is in google
[08:40] <angelcom> or somethin
[08:40] <angelcom> :(
[08:40] <angelcom> so can you teach me directly?
[08:40] <Ben64> it's not hard though, sudo apt install php
[08:40] <angelcom> ah
[08:40] <angelcom> thanks :)
[08:43] <ducasse> angelcom: https://www.google.no/search?q=install+lamp+ubuntu&oq=install+lamp+ubuntu
[09:08] <mia> hey all
[09:08] <mia> this is not directly an ubuntu question but you may have some ideas
[09:08] <mia> is it possible to conenct transmission to a remote deamon?
[09:08] <mia> (like deluge)
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> mia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TransmissionHowTo
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> mia: just dont add the ppa described there
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> mia: its on the official repos already
[09:13] <drew1> greetings
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> welcome to ubuntu support drew1
[09:14] <rwc> i'm a bit confused about wayland display server
[09:14] <rwc> is it supposed to be better than the default x?
[09:15] <ducasse> 'better' is subjective, it's newer though
[09:15] <rwc> then why does it exist?..
[09:15] <ducasse> it's supposed to have better security and be better prepared for future needs
[09:16] <rwc> so it makes sense to try to switch to it, right?..
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> rwc: its the users choice
[09:17] <ducasse> might be a bit early yet
[09:17] <OerHeks> X was neaver meant to do 3d stuff
[09:17] <Paavi2_0> rwc: X is old and not really designed with security in mind, plus for the past 20+ years it has been backwards compatible beyond any reason.
[09:18] <rwc> so technicaly in the future wayland will have more perf running 3d apps, correct?
[09:18] <ducasse> rwc: and it depends on your gpu, wayland hasn't got proper support for nvidia yet
[09:18] <Paavi2_0> rwc: wayland's downside is that it is new. so not everything is perfect either.
[09:18] <rwc> yeah, i figured XD
[09:19] <rwc> i tried to switch to wayland yesterday, from x11 i3 (gnome integrated)
[09:19] <Paavi2_0> it is however much more stable than back in 2015 when i tried a distro defaulting to wayland
[09:20] <ducasse> rwc: you can try it out, but some things aren't there yet
[09:20] <rwc> feels a bit slower, but hey, we are on linux not because of ideas, not strictly perf
[09:21] <rwc> anybody running sway?
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> rwc: for discussions, best to join #ubuntu-discuss
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> rwc: ubuntu support question you can place here
[09:21] <ducasse> rwc: i am, sway is ok i guess
[09:43] <BlackBloc> hi
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> welcome BlackBloc
[09:44] <BlackBloc> thanks
[09:47] <ducasse> BlackBloc: do you have an ubuntu question we can help with?
[09:52] <mia> lotuspsychje, oh no I know how to do transmission web
[09:53] <mia> what I'm asking is that: for instance when using deluge, you can use the native app (ubuntu) to connect a remote deamon
[09:53] <mia> so I can control the downloads from the app itself, not some web interface
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> mia: ssh to the box running the deamon?
[09:54] <ducasse> mia: you use the transmission-daemon package
[09:54] <mia> ducasse, I have a deamon running on my raspberry
[09:54] <mia> I can go to my raspberry ip adress and check the downloads from the web ui
[09:54] <mia> so how can I connect my ubuntu transmission to that
[09:54] <ducasse> mia: use transmission-remote-gtk
[09:54] <mia> so that I can check things directly from the ubuntu application
[09:55] <mia> Oh checking!
[09:55] <raspi_> ???
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> can we help you raspi_
[09:56] <raspi_> nothing
[09:56] <raspi_> I just try to send a message
[09:59] <rwc> :q
[10:30] <Chris____> halp
[10:31] <Chris____> how do
[10:31] <Chris____> 600m wifi dongle ? drivers?
[10:33] <jeremy31> Chris____: open terminal, post URL from terminal for> lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:34] <yov00> Hey, may I ask something
[10:34] <ducasse> !ask | yov00
[10:35] <yov00> I am sorry, trying to be polite
[10:35] <ducasse> just go ahead with your question, and we'll try to help :)
[10:35] <yov00> Well I got this weird issue that my symbols on my keyboard are switched
[10:35] <yov00> like "
[10:35] <yov00> is with shit+2 and so on
[10:35] <yov00> Is there any easy quick fix that i can do
[10:42] <yov00> Do you know if it is fixable
[10:43] <ducasse> yov00: you probably have the wrong layout selected
[10:43] <yov00> is it really that simple ?
[10:43] <yov00> nice
[10:45] <ice9> how to deploy ubuntu desktop to 100 PCs?
[10:45] <ducasse> that most likely is your problem, yes
[10:45] <StupidBoy> Hello
[10:46] <osmanlicilegi> ice9: you should look maas
[11:14] <farmer> hello, what's the most proper way to install proprietary nvidia drivers on ubuntu?
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> farmer: wich nvidia card and ubuntu version please?
[11:14] <farmer> lotuspsychje: 18.04 and it's GT640
[11:15] <farmer> NVIDIA Corporation GK208 [GeForce GT 640 Rev. 2] (rev a1)
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> farmer: what does: ubuntu-drivers list say?
[11:15] <farmer> lotuspsychje: nvidia-driver-390 and nvidia-340
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> farmer: wich driver is currently running?
[11:17] <farmer> lotuspsychje: I don't know how to check
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> farmer: software&sources icon/last tab additional drivers
[11:17] <farmer> I see 'nouveau' being mentioned multiple times in the output of `lsmod`
[11:19] <farmer> ahh, Using X.Org X server
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> farmer: ok try to install the 390
[11:20] <farmer> I've got 2 more options there: nvidia driver metapackage from nvidia-driver-390 (proprietary, tested) and nvidia binary driver 340.107 from nvidia-340
[11:22] <farmer> thanks, lotuspsychje
[11:22] <farmer> I really clicked through all tabs in that program at first, the problem with that tab is that it's contents don't appear instantly
[11:22] <farmer> as far as I understand
[11:24] <peter_> hello
[11:25] <farmer> my xubuntu 18.04 install weirdly lacks sshd, how to install it?
[11:25] <farmer> by default it's openssh-server, right?
[11:26] <ducasse> farmer: apt install ssh
[11:30] <tmm88> heyho everyone
[11:30] <tmm88> if i want to add a mirror in linux mint which is also a debian based distro
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> !mint | tmm88
[11:32] <tmm88> i have to type sudo add-apt-repository ubuntu/bionic
[11:33] <tmm88> but is there a way in ubuntu or debian based distros to list all the available repositories with a single command line instruction
[11:33] <tmm88> ?
[11:34] <farmer> hello again, I've created new user and tried to add it to group 'wheel', but it turns out there's no such a group
[11:34] <farmer> ahh, ubuntu, it's 'sudo'
[11:34] <farmer> thanks!
[11:39] <ducasse> tmm88: we don't support mint here, the factoid from ubottu tells you where you can get support. there is also a ##linuxmint channel here on freenode
[11:42] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:46] <jeremy31> tmm88: In Ubuntu just install inxi and then in terminal inxi -r
[12:41] <LordDoskias> hello, how can i figure out which gpu is used on a prime configuration
[12:41] <LordDoskias> prime-select query shows "nvidia" however i don't see the nvidia drivers loaded (i have installed them via the additional drivers tab)
[12:43] <FreeBDSM> hello. I have disks with NTFS, is it safe to write to them? afair I've experienced multiple times the issue where the data wouldn't be written to the fs, what should I do about it?
[12:43] <FreeBDSM> should I always manually run 'sync' or something?
[12:43] <ChrisWere> Hi folks, I was hoping I could find a little help. I've installed and run Ubuntu 19.04 on my Entroware Triton since release and it has frozen twice, with my only option being a hard reset. I'm not really sure how to approach this as it's not an error I can replicate. Here's my lspci https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/t39nPFWdtP/ which might offer some insight, perhaps my machine isn't powerful enough for Ubuntu Gnome? What can I do to work out what
[12:43] <ChrisWere> might be causing it next time it happens?
[12:44] <tomreyn> FreeBDSM: generally it should be safe writing to ntfs, yes. how did you unmount the file systems?
[12:44] <FreeBDSM> tomreyn: I usually didn't unmount manually, rather I just did 'reboot' to boot into windows to check if data got written fine
[12:46] <tomreyn> FreeBDSM: hmm, triggering a reboot vioa software should also result in properly unmounted file systems - usually. if there were still files held open on it by applications this might make a clean unmount fail.
[12:47] <FreeBDSM> tomreyn: well, only if it was thunar (xfce file manager)
[12:47] <tomreyn> FreeBDSM: the other situation i can think of is that the file system wasn't clean to begin with, and you manually had to mount it as writable initially
[12:47] <tomreyn> the file manager should not matter, i don't think, no.
[12:48] <FreeBDSM> tomreyn: it is clean from windows point of view, not sure if ubuntu begs to differ
[12:48] <erdem> hi guys
[12:48] <erdem> is there anybody here?
[12:49] <FreeBDSM> everyone, pretend like noone's home
[12:49] <tomreyn> FreeBDSM: hmm actually since support for this file system is in user it may be advisable to unmount those yourself before you shutdown, it could be that the process just gets killed on shutdown, without a clean unmount.
[12:49] <erdem> hello
[12:49] <erdem> hii
[12:49] <tomreyn> !ask | hi erdem
[12:50] <guiverc> ChrisWere, rather than force-shutdown; I'd try a sysreq reisub combination to tell linux to reboot; then I'd hope you could find clues in `journalctl` (it can show prior login messages)
[12:50] <FreeBDSM> tomreyn: do I need to run sync?
[12:51] <ChrisWere> thanks guiverc, I'm not sure what a sysreq reisub combination is though.
[12:51] <tomreyn> FreeBDSM: i think i'd do an unmount from thunar, this should be enough.
[12:52] <tomreyn> FreeBDSM: but i had really expected this to work without. maybe experiment a little with those options, including sync, to get a better idea of what ensures the data remains present.
[12:52] <tomreyn> !sysrw | ChrisWere
[12:52] <tomreyn> !sysrq | ChrisWere
[12:52] <guiverc> ChrisWere, it's a key combination; you will probably not recall this detail when it occurs, but a web search using "sysreq linux key" provides the wikipedia with key combinations for a startpage search
[12:53] <FreeBDSM> thanks, tomreyn
[12:53] <guiverc> ChrisWere, (ps: when a machine has locked up, you'll be using another device to do the search for this key unless it occurs regularly enough for the keys to just 'stick' in memory)
[12:54] <ChrisWere> Thanks guiverc and tomreyn okay, I'll try to remember that. Now I know what Raising Elephants Is So Uterly Boring means, lol.
[12:54] <ChrisWere> Fortunately I've got two computers right here. What journalctl command would be best to run to find out, when it happens?
[12:55] <guiverc> ChrisWere, given you don't know what to look for, I'd page to the end of that session; ie. use the approx date/time of the 'crash' - as you'll have rebooted & have different time anyway when you look
[12:56] <tomreyn> ChrisWere: in fact you can limit it to "So Utterly Boring" (s-u-b), since you can't raise those elephants with ubuntu (in the default configuration) anyways. obviously for security reasons, elephants are big and dangerous.
[12:56] <ChrisWere> okay great, I'll remember to do that guiverc, is there any possible info that might be garnered if I look through journalctl now?
[12:57] <guiverc> ChrisWere, i don't know what you'll be looking for sorry; I'd look for when it last occurred & hope to recognize something that looks wrong, suspicious of error/problem etc...  but I'm stabbing blind sorry
[13:03] <ChrisWere> I looked through journalctl at around the time, but I'm not sure I can make sense of it https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XRrNDSrqyW/
[13:04] <tomreyn> ChrisWere: you should also stress test the systems. memory test and cpuburn
[13:04] <ChrisWere> It seems to be mostly my firewall blocking stuff right?
[13:04] <ChrisWere> How do I stress test the system tomreyn ?
[13:06] <tomreyn> ChrisWere: about memory, you should already have an option on the grub menu (which you can bring up by hitting escape repeatedly during early boot)
[13:06] <yug4> hay
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> !rootirc | yug4
[13:07] <tomreyn> ChrisWere: for cpu load testing there is 'stress', a software you can install https://askubuntu.com/questions/948854/how-do-i-stress-test-cpu-and-ram-at-the-same-time
[13:07] <pedro__> hello world
[13:07] <yug4> hellow
[13:11] <tomreyn> ChrisWere: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/stress.1.html
[13:11] <ChrisWere> thanks tomreyn
[13:12] <Pedro__> hey, dont really know the etiquette around here but a question: anyone here uses google drive on the terminal?
[13:12] <Pedro__> is there a way to use it
[13:12] <tomreyn> ChrisWere: the log you posted contains only information on your dhcp client failing to make requests, and the firewall blocking some. you should look into this.
[13:13] <ChrisWere> i'm not sure what that means tomreyn
[13:14] <tomreyn> ChrisWere: dhcp is where your computers tries to check with your router as to whether it should change its network configuration. you usually want this to work and those packets to pass if using dhcp (the easy setup where the router passes out ip addresses to your computers and mobile devices in your (W)LAN)
[13:16] <tomreyn> ChrisWere: your log shows that your computers' DHCP client, the process which receives those configuration updates, or rather asks the router about any, is unable to contact your router and get them. as well as what seem to be cut off logs from the UFW firewall where, i assume, these outbound requests are being blocked.
[13:16] <ChrisWere> but everything seems to work find in that regard tomreyn
[13:17] <ChrisWere> fine*
[13:17] <tomreyn> ChrisWere: so i'm suggesting you reconfigure your firewall to not block outbound requests from your computer to the router, on port 67 (UDP)
[13:17] <tomreyn> well the log suggests otherwise
[13:18] <ChrisWere> well this is confusing
[13:18] <Pedro__> 7wc
[13:18] <tomreyn> ChrisWere:  if you have more questions about it, just ask.
[13:19] <ChrisWere> Those errors don't appear late on down the log file. Could they be caused by the freeze?
[13:20] <tomreyn> hmm, well a freeze is a free, no logs should have been written after it. unless it was just about the graphics and the system continues operating normally otherwise.
[13:21] <tomreyn> but even then i don't see how this would cause those records to be logged as a result.
[13:22] <tomreyn> ChrisWere: maybe if you could do a reboot and then post your journal via    journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999    we'd have a better handle to suggest further action.
[13:23] <tomreyn> i wasn't able to find any information on your computer based on its marketing name, "entroware triton". i found entroware.com, but there's no mention of this model.
[13:24] <ChrisWere> it's a discontinued model tomreyn
[13:24] <tomreyn> i see
[13:25] <tomreyn> this shouldn't strictly rule out finding some info on it, though
[13:26] <itsChrisWere> here's the url i got from that command https://termbin.com/okzn
[13:29] <tomreyn> itsChrisWere / ChrisWere: i'll have a look, this can take some 15 minutes, please stay around.
[13:29] <ChrisWere> sure thing tomreyn thanks for the help
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> ChrisWere: are those freezes random or when you launch something?
[13:33] <ChrisWere> there have only been two, but they seem random. Although I was watching YouTube during both sessions, if I recall correctly.
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> ChrisWere: what kind of graphics card chipset in your pc?
[13:38] <ChrisWere> lotuspsychje, it's Intel, I've got my lspci here https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/t39nPFWdtP/
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> ChrisWere: ok tnx
[13:38] <tomreyn> this is a "Singer W94_95_97PU" mainboard, little information to be found on online.
[13:39] <tomreyn> http://browser.geekbench.com/geekbench2/2659004
[13:39] <tomreyn> a minimalistic CPU ;-)
[13:39] <FreeBDSM> an alarmingly weird thing just happened to me: a rebooting the PC - now neither keyboard nor mouse work
[13:40] <FreeBDSM> they both are powered
[13:40] <FreeBDSM> but moving the mouse doesn't move the cursor
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: wich ubuntu version is that
[13:41] <ChrisWere> I've also just filed a ticket with Entroware support to see if they can offer any insight, but it's a weekend, so I might have to wait for them on that.
[13:41] <tomreyn> ChrisWere got 4 GB RAM, but 350 are used by the intel gpu.
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> yeah 4gb ram is low for gnome3
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> unless you high tweak
[13:42] <tomreyn> i think 4 GB is ok with gnome3.
[13:43] <tomreyn> but sre, you're a bit limite din what you can do. but i think the bottleneck here will much more likely be the cpu
[13:43] <ChrisWere> ahh, so perhaps a less memory intensive DE might be the best option? My gut feeling was something like that, it felt a little like a hardware error.
[13:43] <tomreyn> ChrisWere: you have fancontrol installed, but not configured.
[13:44] <ChrisWere> The CPU fans do spin up a fair bit when watching Twitch and YouTube streams
[13:44] <mia> ducasse, thanks for the suggestion (transmission-remote)
[13:44] <mia> it saved my day
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> mia: tnx for feedback
[13:44] <tomreyn> ChrisWere: yes, something other than the default gnome-shell desktop would help a lot.
[13:44] <tomreyn> !flavours
[13:45] <ChrisWere> There are some good choices there.
[13:45] <tomreyn> ChrisWere: ^ those other flavours care available as packages, usually named FLAVOUR-desktop (replace the word FLAVOUR)
[13:46] <tomreyn> ChrisWere: you can then switch to those on the login screen by clicking on the little cog icon
[13:47] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: 18.04
[13:47] <tomreyn> ChrisWere: see those "First use: please run 'sudo fancon test && sudo fancon -lf', then configure fan profiles in /etc/fancon.conf" messages in what you posted
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: reboot doesnt fix?
[13:48] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: well, that happened right after a reboot...
[13:49] <FreeBDSM> I can access the machine via ssh just fine
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: can you try a new reboot please?
[13:49] <samsepi0l> hi
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> welcome samsepi0l
[13:50] <FreeBDSM> at the moment I've tried to detach and re-attach all the usb devices (mouse, keyboard, scanner and printer) and I see them in dmesh, no errors
[13:50] <tomreyn> ChrisWere: and you're right, those dhcp client errors do not show on the latest log you sent. but they may just show after a certain runtime, i.e. if you'd run "dmesg | tail" now they may shouw there.
[13:50] <itsChrisWere> This is the output for that command tomreyn https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/C6jFmtb4r5/
[13:51] <mitchell> I have a web client that only supports HTTP and I need it to fetch data from a webserver that requires TLS connections.  what would be a good way to handle the TLS part externally? (perhaps with a forward proxy of some sort?)
[13:51] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: same result after a reboot
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx FreeBDSM
[13:52] <tomreyn> itsChrisWere / ChrisWere: this looks like a bug in the fancontrol snap. I suggest you remove this (sudo snap remove fancon) and use the apt package instead (sudo apt update && auso apt install fancontrol)
[13:52] <samsepi0l> sry my backbox linux crashed
[13:52] <itsChrisWere> the do tomreyn https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/v42DS8nCGp/ but I want to block all non-tun0 traffic
[13:52] <samsepi0l> i don't know why
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: what happens when you tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin mouse & keyboard?
[13:53] <FreeBDSM> huh, `apt list --upgradable` says `login` and `passwd` are upgradable, could that be related?
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: this mornings updates
[13:53] <ChrisWere> maybe the issue could be overheating tomreyn ?
[13:54] <tomreyn> itsChrisWere: i don't think you want to block communication between your computer and your router, no.
[13:54] <tomreyn> ChrisWere: i suppose so, yes.
[13:54] <tomreyn> overheating sounds likely with this cpu
[13:54] <samsepi0l> is this normal that my ubuntu crash sometime (like all 2 week)
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> !details | samsepi0l
[13:54] <tomreyn> ChrisWere: also it's a rare model so probably not too well supported
[13:55] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: https://paste.ee/p/YtG8M
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> ChrisWere: you might want to compare with an LTS flavour too, and see if this also happens
[13:56] <itsChrisWere> I doesn't happen with the lts lotuspsychje
[13:56] <itsChrisWere> I've switched out the snap fancontrol with the apt version but i get this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QWSVwZttpZ/
[13:56] <tomreyn> this sounds like a good reason to use 18.04.2 instead.
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> itsChrisWere: did you mention this at your original question?
[13:57] <ChrisWere> lotuspsychje, did i mention that is didn't happen with the lts? Not sure, don't think so.
[13:57] <tomreyn> itsChrisWere: i think the snap you had was called "fancon", which is actually a different software than i suggested now you install, "fancontrol"
[13:58] <tomreyn> itsChrisWere: the "fancontrol" package provides the "fancontrol" and "pwmconfig" commands
[13:58] <tomreyn> man pages exist for either
[13:58] <tomreyn> !man
[13:59] <itsChrisWere> it doesn't seem to be able to find the conf file https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4Nk64tQGp7/
[13:59] <tomreyn> you may need to create one initially
[14:00] <ice9> what is the main difference between selinux and apparmor?
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: ok lets try to update your system first & reboot
[14:00] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: may it be caused by the way I rebooted? I tried 'reboot' and was told that another user is logged in on seat0 and was asked to retry operation after closing inhibitors and logging out other users (which I did not do) or alternatively ignore inhibitors and users with 'systemctl reboot -i' (which I did)?
[14:01] <ChrisWere> how do i do that tomreyn ?
[14:01] <tomreyn> itsChrisWere / ChrisWere : check the man pages, they should tell what you need to configure
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: maybe, we dont know what you all did before this happened, hence why weneed most info as possible
[14:01] <tomreyn> itsChrisWere: here's a discussion of this topic, too https://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: after update & reboot you can also try to boot a previous kernel as a test
[14:02] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: I've also tried to `ifconfig ${interface} down` and then up again, as I've set a static lease on my router and wanted it to obtain another IP
[14:02] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: afair - there were no kernel updates today and today everything worked
[14:03] <FreeBDSM> it stopped working after I've installed a few programs
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: wich ones please?
[14:03] <ChrisWere> sorry folks, this is all a bit difficult for me
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> ChrisWere: dont make it too hard on yourself ok, perhaps start over with 18.04 LTS as suggested as solid base?
[14:05] <ChrisWere> Lubuntu might be more interesting, that could work right lotuspsychje ?
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> ChrisWere: you said you had 18.04 working before nicely, wich flavour was that?
[14:06] <ChrisWere> I distro hop a lot, so I know I can find something that works. I think I've tried Kubuntu before with success.
[14:07] <ChrisWere> I've run gnome distro before, but they were always a bit heavy for the machine.
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> ChrisWere: but yes, lubuntu 18.04 would be a good idea
[14:07] <ChrisWere> I don't really want 18.04 though.
[14:08] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: afair youtube-dl, xpra, zsh, tree
[14:08] <FreeBDSM> oh, and openssh-server
[14:08] <FreeBDSM> and mpv
[14:08] <FreeBDSM> and curl
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> !eol | ChrisWere you might want to check the flavours lifespan
[14:09] <FreeBDSM> oh, and I've installed proprietary nvidia drive, instead of xorg
[14:09] <samthewildone> :)
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: wich nvidia version?
[14:09] <FreeBDSM> and telegram + virtualenv
[14:09] <groke> you can run ubuntu server and use a window manager only, it's very light. openbox is nice. 18.04 is good =)
[14:10] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: 390, but it worked fine after a reboot
[14:10] <ChrisWere> I'd like an 19.04 release if I can find one that works, I paid £400 for this machine only a couple of years ago because it was advertised as being a Linux laptop from Entroware. I'd be quite unhappy if I had to bunker down with a "safe" release.
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> ChrisWere: the users choice..
[14:12] <ChrisWere> I'll try out a few and see what I can find that's nice lotuspsychje .
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: how about you try to create a new user and test there
[14:13] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: test how? my keyboard doesn't work and cursor doesn't work
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> right
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: does it work at grub and preboot?
[14:13] <FreeBDSM> hmm, good thinking, lemme check
[14:13] <FreeBDSM> also, this in dmesg is worrysome: [    3.198779] nvidia: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel
[14:14] <jeremy31> FreeBDSM: That error is not an issue unless Secure Boot is enabled
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> ChrisWere: just keep en eye on the 19.04 flavour of your choice, same kernel might give same problems too
[14:16] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: the keyboard and mouse work in bios/uefi + in grub and even in ubuntu recovery mode
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: ok sweet, lets try to boot a previous kernel, -47 perhaps?
[14:18] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje only 18.15 and 15.48 are available
[14:18] <FreeBDSM> 18.0-15 and 15.0-48
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: ok, try the other then you currently on
[14:19] <FreeBDSM> tried 15.0-48, same issue
[14:19] <ChrisWere> if that's the case lotuspsychje then we've isolated the problem.
[14:19] <stevendale> !ops GirLLiz is spamming everyone who joins this channel with a private message
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: do you autologin or get to gdm?
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> stevendale: to report spam please join #ubuntu-ops
[14:20] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: autologin
[14:20] <sonicwind> I already reported
[14:21] <stevendale> lotuspsychje: ^
[14:21] <stevendale> See above
[14:21] <stevendale> No action was taken
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> stevendale: doesnt mean you need to report again here then
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: try F1 at boot, to switch to textboot and notice whats happening?
[14:22] <stevendale> Feel free to report me for being offtopic then, I don’t care, it’s a bot and it will keep on doing it… over and over… unless one of the ignorant ops removes GirLLiz
[14:22] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: at what time/step?
[14:22] <ChrisWere> thanks for the help lotuspsychje and tomreyn it's sll very kind of you.
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: just after post boot, when ubuntu starts loading
[14:22] <lotuspsychje> ChrisWere: welcome
[14:23] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: so right after grub choice?
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: yes or a little after
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> stevendale: please tone down the attitude, the ops do what they can here
[14:26] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: didn't work
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: how about you try it as a kernel boot parameter then
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: change "quiet splash" to ""
[14:27] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: ok
[14:29] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: didn't work too :/
[14:30] <FreeBDSM> also, there's $vt-handoff or something after that option
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> !kernelparm | FreeBDSM
[14:32] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=grub2_menu_editing.png screenshot says 'press ctrl+x or f10 to boot', I pressed F10
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: did you erase quiet splash
[14:34] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: I've tried to edit /etc/default/grub to remove `quiet splash` and after a reboot - it still boots into DE
[14:35] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: yeah
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: its to pre- textboot right, it will also result into DE after
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: or does it go too fast to follow for you?
[14:36] <AvidWolf43> hi guys
[14:36] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: lemme re-try, I was in another room at boot :)
[14:36] <AvidWolf43> For the past few days im having an issue running ubuntu 18.10 on esxi -- the machine has plex and unifi video on it, we had a few power outages
[14:37] <AvidWolf43> the problem is the webservers arent accessible after reboot
[14:37] <AvidWolf43> any suggestions on what to check?
[14:38] <woenx> Hey. Is there a simple gui tool to graph pings? I have a host which from time to time loses connectivity, and I want to see that quickly at a glance.
[14:38] <woenx> with the ping tool I can only see the last 20 seconds or so
[14:41] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: well, it shows underscore blink once in top left corner of the screen for 0.2 sec and then boots into DE
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: are you on an ssd?
[14:42] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: yes, why?
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: yeah ssd's go faster, so textboot is skipped pretty quick, no use for us then
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: do you have usb 3.0 ports?
[14:43] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: probably yeah
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: try mouse or keyboard on usb 3.0 as a test?
[14:45] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: looks like there are no usb3.0s, anyways, I've tried all ports
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: how about a tty can you enter that at boot?
[14:48] <puhdabear> Hello
[14:55] <AvidWolf43> ok I am seeing my /dev/sda1 / is full and only 16gb ... how can I tell what is eating the space and how can I increase from 16gb
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | AvidWolf43
[14:55] <tomreyn> baobab or ncdu for the first
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: would be also a test if your keyboard works at TTY
[14:57] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: can you run and post the http address returned by : sudo parted /dev/sda print 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:58] <tomreyn> alternatively:  sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:00] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: what's that tty you mentioned?
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> !tty | FreeBDSM
[15:00] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: I mean how to boot into it using grub?
[15:00] <FreeBDSM> because after grub the keyboard doesn't work and I can't switch to tth1
[15:00] <FreeBDSM> tty1*
[15:00] <AvidWolf43> im having a bigger problem tomreyn
[15:01] <AvidWolf43> i cant do anything pretty much everything i do it says no space left on disk
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: how do you know keyboard doesnt work after rgub?
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> grub
[15:01] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: because even numlock doesn't toggle the led
[15:02] <FreeBDSM> and ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't switch to tty
[15:02] <FreeBDSM> so the only option is to somehow force ubuntu show tty1 upon boot instead of DE
[15:03] <AvidWolf43> tomreyn: I ran it
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: if you say keyboard doesnt work right after grub, it wont make any use in tty neither
[15:04] <explodes> oh/b 2
[15:04] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: I'm just describing it naturally, but in fact it may stop working after some other step, I just don't know
[15:05] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: this is the only way to check that
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: if you cant make tty work after boot and cant type anymore, id suggest a liveusb
[15:05] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: you can log out of the graphical desktop, press ctrl-alt-f3, login at the text loogin, run "rm -rf ~/.cache", logout there, press ctrl-alt-f2 or -f1 and login to the graphical desktop again.
[15:05] <dingodisco> Hey guys, in settings my  distro is saying a different battery status from power statistics, how to fix?
[15:06] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: what did you run,what did it return?
[15:06] <BluesKaj> FreeBDSM, grub boots the OS so you can't get into a tty without booting the OS
[15:06] <dingodisco> Hey guys, in settings my  distro is saying a different battery status from power statistics, how to fix?
[15:06] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: also run this, and again post the http address returned there here: ls -la /boot/ | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> dingodisco: uname -a && lsb_release -a please?
[15:07] <dingodisco> Hey guys, in settings my  distro is saying a different battery status from power statistics, how to fix?
[15:07] <AvidWolf43> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/qbvc
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> dingodisco: dont repeat please
[15:08] <dingodisco> Sorry
[15:08] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: damn it, just realized my mistake: after editing /etc/default/grub - I haven't executed `update-grub`. Now I did, rebooted and seen stuff like dmesg
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: on ssd might go too fast to follow
[15:09] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: I thought that would boot me into tty, rather than just show dmesg-like stuff
[15:10] <BluesKaj> dingodisco, there's no instant gratification here, if someone is willing to help they'll answer you
[15:10] <FreeBDSM> because what's the use of looking there?
[15:10] <FreeBDSM> I have ssh access, I can watch syslog + dmesh
[15:10] <dingodisco> Okay thank  you BlueKaj
[15:10] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: also, what would I do in liveusb?
[15:10] <AvidWolf43> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/ug10
[15:11] <puhdabear> Hello
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: you 'could' install an ubuntu versio next your current one
[15:13] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: why would I do that? I want 18.04 LTS
[15:14] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: okay canyou run "sudo apt update" without errors, yet?
[15:14] <AvidWolf43> yes
[15:14] <AvidWolf43> is that normal ?
[15:14] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: now run:  sudo apt --purge autoremove
[15:14] <AvidWolf43> "/var" is 6gb
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: if you cant type anymore, we need to do something right
[15:15] <AvidWolf43> is that normal?
[15:15] <AvidWolf43> tomreyn: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[15:16] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: 1. it worked before, the issue suddenly appeared after 1 reboot. 2. the issue is consistent: further reboots don't cure it neither temporarily nor randomly. 3. the keyboard and mouse physically work. 4. dmesg shows no issues/errors when I detach/attach those devices
[15:16] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: df -h | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:17] <FreeBDSM> `lsusb` lists both devices
[15:17] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: /var at 6 GB is not strictly wrong
[15:17] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: i'd guess it's more than average
[15:17] <AvidWolf43> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/3soy
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: there's no such thing as 'suddenly' all issues arise with a root problem
[15:18] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: yeah. I haven't touched system configs, I only installed some packages. I'll try to remove them now.
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: do you have currently a way to uninstall packages?
[15:18] <FreeBDSM> yes, ssh is working
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: ok try to reverse the things you did
[15:18] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: sudo du -shx /* | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:19] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: I only wish there was a way to list packages based on install order, because I have shitty memory
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: dpkg logs
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: history in terminal can also help
[15:20] <AvidWolf43> tomreyn: I think I know what happened its just locating the offending large files and removing them, a few days ago i had a power outage and the vm's were ok but the external harddrives were left powered off until i got home later that night. The same server runs unifi video as well, could it be it didnt find the external to write to so it wrote to /
[15:20] <AvidWolf43> ?
[15:20] <AvidWolf43> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/59in
[15:23] <cfhowlett> !mono
[15:23] <FreeBDSM> I wonder if this could be nvidia issue, because I've enabled 'force full composition pipeline'
[15:23] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: could be, you'll be more qualified to check, since i don't have any experience with this software and do not know where it writes to
[15:24] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: is the directory /2 supposed to exist?
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: if thats the case, you could try a !nomodeset
[15:27] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: please also post:  sudo ls -l / | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:27] <AvidWolf43> tomreyn: its not a dir just a file, was created last night apparently
[15:27] <AvidWolf43> i can rm if
[15:27] <AvidWolf43> rm it
[15:28] <AvidWolf43> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/9uu0
[15:28] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: if its not data you need, sure. /2 is not normally present, neither are /hs_err_pid*
[15:29] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: did you reboot this system since the disks ran full?
[15:29] <AvidWolf43> yes several times
[15:29] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: did it run a file system check on / during reboot?
[15:30] <AvidWolf43> not sure, i didnt notice if it did
[15:33] <AvidWolf43> shoud i reboot it?
[15:33] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: so from what i understand from https://termbin.com/3soy your / ("root file system") has a total capacity of 15 GB, of which only 131 MB are still available.
[15:33] <AvidWolf43> yes
[15:34] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: so i had you run "du" ("disk usage") on / to see where the space is allocated, output was https://termbin.com/59in
[15:34] <tomreyn> this does not nearly add up to 15 GB, though
[15:34] <AvidWolf43> i know so im not sure where its eating up all the memory
[15:35] <tomreyn> in such situations, usually a reboot helps, but since you already did it, i'm not certain.
[15:35] <tomreyn> it may be that a file system check was not triggered, and thus didn't clean it up properly.
[15:36] <FreeBDSM> reaaaaally weird. I've removed `virtualenv xpra mpv youtube-dl zsh tree telegram-desktop` and set nomodeset in grub config, rebooted, and now I can't even ssh :/ it says  'too many auth failures' without even prompting for pass
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: after installing openssh-server did you secure yourself?
[15:37] <AvidWolf43> tomreyn: i just rebooted again and no fs ck
[15:38] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: what do you mean? I've checked it's in autorun, I've created a separate sudoer user
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: i mean secure for ssh bruteforcing?
[15:38] <FreeBDSM> I used pass auth up until now when I realized I want to ssh using key, without prompts
[15:38] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: no, the node is in LAN
[15:39] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: can you run:   journalctl -b | grep 'checked for errors' | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:40] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: also:  sudo touch /forcefsck
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> FreeBDSM: too many auth failures really sounds like their hammering your ssh port
[15:40] <Guest51616> I have a problem with sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu with my vps
[15:41] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: also this:   tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:41] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: also this:   sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:41] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: I doubt that.
[15:41] <tomreyn> ^ just the lattter
[15:41] <FreeBDSM> lotuspsychje: weird, but I just connected juuust fine via SSH from my smartphone, using the same user and pass
[15:43] <tomreyn> Guest51616: please run this and return the http address here:  cat /etc/resolve.conf | nc <IP_ADDRESS> 9999
[15:44] <AvidWolf43> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/xg5n
[15:44] <AvidWolf43> journalctl command returned nothing
[15:49] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: hmm looks fine to me. i'm puzzled there. do you have more unallocated disk space now as per    df -h /    ?
[15:49] <AvidWolf43> /dev/sda1        16G   15G  674M  96% /
[15:49] <AvidWolf43> gained 4% but it still makes me uneasy
[15:49] <tomreyn> that's a bit more but definitely not enough
[15:50] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: can you post this once more (now that you rebooted)   sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:51] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: oh actually you'd need to reboot once more
[15:51] <AvidWolf43> https://termbin.com/ywe9
[15:51] <AvidWolf43> ok standby
[15:51] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: wait
[15:52] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: let's make sure we have this file system checked regularly first
[15:53] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: sudo tune2fs -c /dev/sda1
[15:53] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: then reboot
[15:54] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: sudo tune2fs -c 30 -C 30 /dev/sda1
[15:54] <tomreyn> then reboot
[15:55] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: just one reboot, and the first of those 4 instructions (sudo tune2fs -c /dev/sda1) was wrong, sorry
[15:58] <AvidWolf43> ok done
[15:58] <AvidWolf43> tomreyn:
[16:00] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: you also rebooted?
[16:00] <AvidWolf43> yes
[16:00] <tomreyn> what does     df -h /     report now?
[16:00] <AvidWolf43> /dev/sda1        16G   15G  675M  96% /
[16:00] <AvidWolf43> still
[16:03] <killforge> geh, I wonder how much the state government paid for ad time on prime time twitch
[16:03] <killforge> was for a good reason but it would cost some moneys
[16:03] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43:   sudo du --all --one-file-system / | awk '{if($1 > 102400) print int($1/1024) "MB" " " $2 }' | sort -nr | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:05] <westor> question: i have installed an openssl from sources, how can i remove that and keep working with ubuntu default one
[16:07] <tomreyn> westor: undo what you did.
[16:07] <AvidWolf43> tomreyn: didnt paste because the output was too big I guess but: 14503MB /
[16:07] <AvidWolf43> 6651MB /var
[16:07] <AvidWolf43> 5681MB /var/lib
[16:07] <AvidWolf43> 4856MB /usr
[16:07] <AvidWolf43> 3651MB /var/lib/unifi-video
[16:07] <westor> yeah i don't know how, "openssl version" returns that one i installed but i don't know how to do that, any ideas please?
[16:09] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: okay, so   the output i had you post earlier at    https://termbin.com/59in     wa sjust incomplete, that explain ti now.
[16:09] <tomreyn> westor: the original change you made is not supported here, so we also don't support recovery from it. you could reinstall.
[16:10] <westor> i used "sudo apt-get install --reinstall openssl" but that one didn't worked
[16:12] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: is there something in /var/lib/unifi-video which you don't need then?
[16:13] <tomreyn> killforge: that's not the topic of this channel, ubuntu support only here, please. thanks.
[16:17] <tubbydow> hi
[16:17] <tomreyn> hi tubbydow
[16:19] <alice> hi
[16:19] <tubbydow> I switched from a different distro to buntu and I had a raid1 running, but after the swith it is not recognized anymore. fdisk -l lists the drives, but everytime I try to reassemble them with mdadm it tells me the drives are not in an arry... :/
[16:20] <tubbydow> How do I get them to work again?
[16:20] <tomreyn> tubbydow: which different distro did you switch from?
[16:21] <tubbydow> tomreyn: manjaro
[16:22] <tomreyn> hmm, might be worth a try then, but i'd really just have migrated the data if i was you
[16:22] <tomreyn> tubbydow: get us some command line output, some error messages, maybe we can suggest a way forward.
[16:22] <tubbydow> tomreyn: I would have loved to do that, but I do not have a seperate 2T drive for a backup :/
[16:23] <tubbydow> tomreyn: mdadm: device /dev/sda1 exists but is not an md array.
[16:24] <tomreyn> tubbydow: on a pastebin, full commands you ran, full output they produced.
[16:24] <tubbydow> md0 : active (read-only) raid1 dm-1[1] dm-0[0]<PHONE_NUMBER> blocks super 1.2 [2/2] [UU] bitmap: 0/15 pages [0KB], 65536KB chunk
[16:24] <tomreyn> tubbydow: if you don't have backups, then i guess you don't need the data
[16:25] <tubbydow> https://pastebin.com/LrTeCEbu
[16:27] <tubbydow> tomreyn: I am currently overcoming a cashfow problem :)  But once it is over I am going to buy me a nas with 10tb and will make backups daily
[16:29] <Nectar___> I bought a new laptop (Geo Bookx3) and i cannot get the trackpad to work in Mint 19.1. Assistance needed!
[16:29] <Nectar___> i'm booting from usb until i can fix the issue
[16:30] <willem1933> new to Ubuntu and have network problems. Notification and sometimes internet not available
[16:30] <cfhowlett> Nectar___, wrong channel.  this is ubuntu; ask mint for mint support
[16:30] <cfhowlett> !mint
[16:33] <FreeBDSM> so my issue was with video drivers all that time
[16:33] <tomreyn> tubbydow: then it'd been a little bit better to hold back the migration to ubuntu until you had a way to create backups. the pastebin is still incomplete (not showing comands run, no error messages produced) and it's not clear from that what the issue may be. so check your system logs (journalctl -b) since they should say. and if you're too lazy to do so, here's a way to shoot your foot and maybe loose all your data:  mdadm --readwrite /dev/md0
[16:33] <FreeBDSM> mouse and keyboard now work, can't configure the proper resolution
[16:35] <LinuxGuy2020> Hello I just bought a Razer Ornata Chroma keyboard and am using the openrazer project along with polychromatic tray tool to control the RGB lighting. However it does not support key macros. Is there a program I can get separately to create profiles for game macros that might work with any keyboard?
[16:36] <tomreyn> !details | willem1933
[16:36] <tomreyn> Nectar___: just install ubuntu and we'll be happy to support you here.
[16:40] <Nectar___> I try to boot Ubuntu and i get to the grub menu but a blank black screen for boot or install]
[16:40] <XeroBytez> Experiencing an annoying issue, whenever I move my mouse I get static and popping noises through my headphones. Clean 18.04 install, HyperX Cloud II headphones connect via USB interface, anyone have any ideas? Googling hasn't yielded any promising leads for a fix
[16:40] <Nectar___> (ubuntu)
[16:40] <cfhowlett> hey nectar: we cannot help you.  you're using mint.  mint is not ubuntu.  ubuntu is not mint.
[16:41] <tubbydow> tomreyn: eureka, I got it to work again with webmin. :)   Everything is alright now. Thank you again :)
[16:41] <cfhowlett> !webmin | tubbydow, please be aware
[16:42] <jcotton> what is webmin?
[16:43] <cfhowlett> cotton webmin is unsupported and breaks things.  anything else you want to know, google away
[16:43] <tubbydow> ubottu: just needed it for the raid problem, but thanks for the warning :)  btw, now that I found this feisty and useful tool I wonder if there is any up to date tool similar to webmin which supports the current way ubuntu handels configuration files
[16:44] <tubbydow> ubottu: XD
[16:46] <Menzador> Hey! I'm failing to run any version of Ubuntu on an HP Compaq dc5800 Microtower with an Intel Core 2 Duo E5400, 8 GB of RAM, and a 1 TB HDD. No matter what Live image I try that's supported, the kernel keeps panicking with exitcode=0x00000009... any ideas, folks?
[16:47] <cfhowlett> Menzador, this is on plain vanilla ubuntu?
[16:48] <Menzador> Ubuntu MATE, why? Is there a problem booting flavors?
[16:48] <Menzador> cfhowlett: ^
[16:48] <cfhowlett> not so much, but lubuntu is optimized for legacy hardware so might be worth a try
[16:49] <Menzador> Oh boy... just what I was looking to avoid
[16:50] <leftyfb> Menzador: are you sure it's core 2 duo and not just core duo?
[16:50] <leftyfb> Menzador: what I'm trying to determine is if your system supports 64bit or not
[16:50] <Menzador> It's the Core 2 Duo E*45*00, not E5400
[16:51] <Menzador> Should be 64-bit capable
[16:51] <leftyfb> Menzador: ok. Then maybe try the mini.io. Pick your desktop flavor during or after the install
[16:51] <FreeBDSM> how to invoke the log shown before entering DE?
[16:51] <leftyfb> mini.iso*
[16:51] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: dmesg
[16:51] <Menzador> Ah OK
[16:51] <Menzador> That might work, let me see
[16:52] <leftyfb> Menzador: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[16:52] <FreeBDSM> leftyfb: AFAIU it's not the one that lotuspsychje called 'textboot'
[16:52] <Menzador> !bionic
[16:52] <leftyfb> Menzador: it will require the internet, preferably wired
[16:52] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: what are you trying to accomplish?
[16:53] <Menzador> I only have a USB WLAN adapter but it's capable to connecting to the Wi-Fi I'm using...
[16:53] <leftyfb> FreeBDSM: also, why did you ask if you already had an answer?
[16:58] <FreeBDSM> leftyfb: I've tried to replace VGA cable to the display via HDMI cable while I was fixing the issue with non-working mouse+keyboard. It so turned out that mouse+keyboard issue was caused by xorg/nvidia. I've manually removed nvidia driver via apt, then all of a sudden my xfce stopped starting automatically and with startx, I did 'apt install xfce4'. So now I have an issue that nvidia-config doesn't detect the resolution of my display (it
[16:58] <FreeBDSM> 's actually an old plasma TV with a weird resolution of 1366x768).
[16:59] <FreeBDSM> after I've deleted and re-installed nvidia driver + accidentally DE - the display resolution is 1280x720 and I don't see stuff on the edges
[17:01] <FreeBDSM> and I see red [FAILED] records before the DE boots but I don't see green [OK]s and red [FAILED]s in dmesg
[17:03] <FreeBDSM> I've tried to manually add line 'Modeline       "1368x768_60.00"   85.25  1368 1440 1576 1784  768 771 781 798 -hsync +vsync' under `Section "Monitor"` in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but to no avail :(
[17:04] <gaher> hola
[17:05] <gaher> hola
[17:05] <tomreyn> hi gaher
[17:05] <gaher> hola
[17:06] <cfhowlett> !es | gaher
[17:07] <BluesKaj> FreeBDSM, check overscan in nvidia settings if possible
[17:11] <FreeBDSM> BluesKaj: can't find it
[17:12] <BluesKaj> FreeBDSM, it should be in your application launcher
[17:12] <FreeBDSM> BluesKaj: I mean I can't find that option/setting in nvidia-config
[17:14] <wyseguy> morning all
[17:15] <BluesKaj> FreeBDSM, run xrandr to see which resolutions are available
[17:19] <FreeBDSM> BluesKaj: it looks like the issue with the TV + HDMI, because I've booted into windows and it lacks 1366x768 support for that display. There is, however a way to force a resolution anyway, which I tried - and that didn't make the picture fill the whole display
[17:19] <FreeBDSM> BluesKaj: I've stumbled upon this: http://analogbit.com/2008/07/02/fixing-dvi-hdmi-displays-due-to-edid-bugs-on-nvidia/
[17:23] <Menzador> cfhowlett: I found out what the problem was: the BIOS was out of date. Flashed the last available BIOS and the kernel panic problem cleared up. Thanks for the help anyway! :D
[17:23] <Menzador> leftyfb: ^
[17:23] <cfhowlett> nicely done!!!
[17:24] <qwebirc93551> Hi
[17:24] <qwebirc93551> I am having issues with my Ubuntu desktop
[17:25] <qwebirc93551> Is there some one here that could maybe help?
[17:25] <xamithan> !ask
[17:26] <qwebirc93551> I am experiencing a logon loop
[17:27] <qwebirc93551> nick alien__misfit
[17:27] <namoamitabuddha> What are suggested filesystems for removable devices?
[17:27] <xamithan> exfat
[17:28] <qwebirc93551> I am running Ubuntu studio 18.1
[17:29] <namoamitabuddha> How about the efficiency of exFAT?
[17:29] <minatsu> why exFAT ?
[17:30] <namoamitabuddha> I am asking about the FS for removable devices. Somebody suggested exFAT.
[17:32] <CookieM> qwebirc93551, I had once while on proprietary video driver. After updating the driver, the setup reported a lack of certain directories and the system was unable to start a login session
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> !xauthority | qwebirc93551 see also
[17:34] <Nectar___> Help! Put in ubuntu usb > boot > grub> select "try" and I get a black screen
[17:35] <Nectar___> new laptop (GeoBook X3) Running ubuntu 19.04 desktop
[17:37] <xamithan> !nomodeset nectar_
[17:37] <leftyfb> !nomodeset | nectar_
[17:37] <xamithan> Ah thanks
[17:45] <AvidWolf43> tomreyn: sorry was afk
[17:45] <AvidWolf43> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/k27x
[17:48] <tomreyn> AvidWolf43: so look at those findings. these are files and directories which are very large. see whether there are any you no longer need, can move elsewhere etc.
[17:51] <Nectar___> the line now reads : "linux  /casper/vmlinuz  file=/cdrom/pressed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper quiet splash nomodeset ---"
[17:51] <Nectar___> does that sound right?
[17:52] <Nectar___> ^ in grub edit
[17:53] <Nectar___> because i still get a black screen
[17:53] <Nectar___> :\
[17:54] <tomreyn> Nectar___: as a reminder, this is the Ubuntu support channel, for Ubuntu support only.
[17:54] <Nectar___> yus, this is ubuntu
[17:55] <ducasse> it was mint a little over an hour ago
[17:55] <tomreyn> Nectar___: you were initially asking about linux mint support here.
[17:55] <Nectar___> ye, a changed iso files
[17:56] <Nectar___> I*
[17:56] <tomreyn> Nectar___: so which iso file are you now using, and how?
[17:57] <Nectar___> ubuntu-19.04-desktop-amd64.iso via usb
[17:58] <EriC^^> Nectar___: that looks about right, maybe try removing quiet splash in case it gives you more info
[18:02] <Nectar___> still doesn't work
[18:02] <Nectar___> black screen
[18:04] <tomreyn> Nectar___: did you verify that your iso file downloaded properly (how)? how did you write the image to usb? did you verify the file was properly written to the usb (how)?
[18:06] <Nectar___> they both match with the sha1sum command
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> Nectar___: dualboot? singleboot? graphics card chipset?
[18:07] <Nectar___> singlboot, well. boot from USB
[18:08] <qus> Hi, I accidentally deleted the trash folder on my secondary hard disk, and now everything I delete on that disk is permanently deleted. How could I recover the trash folder?
[18:10] <groke> did u try to simply add a folder with the same name again?
[18:10] <tomreyn> Nectar___: you'Re only answering half our questions. if there's something you can't answer, please say so and ask for instructions.
[18:11] <Nectar___> i cannot tell you the GPHICS card of CHIPset
[18:11] <Nectar___> sorry
[18:11] <tomreyn> Nectar___: are you able to access the grub menu of the installer?
[18:11] <Nectar___> yes
[18:12] <tomreyn> Nectar___: try the "install ubuntu (safe graphics)" option
[18:12] <Nectar___> black screen
[18:13] <tomreyn> Nectar___: try the "check disk for defects" option.
[18:13] <Nectar___> black screen
[18:14] <tomreyn> Nectar___: try ubuntu 18.04.2
[18:16] <EriC^^> qus: isnt it supposed to go to /mntpoint/Trash-<User uid here> ?
[18:16] <Nectar___> okay
[18:16] <groke> isn't trash a dotfile?
[18:16] <jeremy31> Nectar___: do you have Mint installed?
[18:16] <Nectar___> nope
[18:16] <groke> oh k
[18:17] <tomreyn> !who | Nectar___
[18:17] <jeremy31> Nectar___:  I was hoping you could give some system info from Mint, possibly find out why 19.04 doesn't want to boot
[18:17] <tomreyn> groke: i don't think Nectar___ was responding to you.
[18:17] <EriC^^> groke: actually you're right, qus it should be /mntpoint/.Trash-<user uid here>
[18:18] <Nectar___> jeremy31: I can yes
[18:18] <groke> aah ok :D
[18:18] <Nectar___> jeremy31: Ill boot into it soon
[18:18] <jeremy31> Nectar___: Just try 18.04.2
[18:18] <Nectar___> jeremy31:OK
[18:19] <Nectar___> jeremy31: I can still boot into mint, if you would like
[18:20] <jeremy31> Nectar___: Does this laptop have fingerprint scanner also?
[18:20] <Nectar___> jeremy31: no
[18:21] <EriC^^> Nectar___: maybe try using an ubuntu version that mirrors the same kernel version as the mint one you used?
[18:30] <jeremy31> EriC^^: The errors from Mint https://pastebin.com/ayavPSgX for Nectar
[18:30] <EriC^^> thanks jeremy31
[18:31] <EriC^^> they seem related to the touchpad
[18:32] <jeremy31> EriC^^: That is the issue, touchpad isn't working
[18:34] <ioria> he can  try to blacklist i2c_hid and  use an external pointer
[18:35] <Boyette> hi
[18:35] <Boyette> i have a problem with my laptop suddenly
[18:35] <Boyette> the screen starts to act weird..
[18:35] <Boyette> but if i move the panel it is ok.. it looks like a hardware problem
[18:35] <Boyette> but i want to be sure it can not be something else
[18:35] <EriC^^> Nectar___: try "sudo rmmod i2c_hid && sudo modprobe i2c_hid"
[18:38] <qus> groke, EriC^^: sorry, i had to do something. yes I tried to recreate manually the trash folder with the name ".Trash-<user uid here>", but that didn't work
[18:42] <Nectar___> EriC^^: no luck
[18:45] <EriC^^> qus: the file manager should create it by itself, if it can't i'm guessing either it's bugged somehow, so try killing it and restarting, or the user you're deleting the files as can't create dirs in the mntpoint for some reason
[18:46] <EriC^^> qus: check that as the user you're able to create files in the root dir of the mointpoint, and/or kill the filemanager via the terminal then launch an instance again
[18:51] <qus> EriC^^: the root point of the disk is "/mnt/B84E44234E43D930" and here I can create files
[18:51] <EriC^^> qus: are you using nautilus?
[18:52] <qus> sorry maybe I should have said, probably i should haha, I am using linux mint, so the file manager is Nemo
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> !mint | qus
[18:52] <ioria> qus, check the permissions
[18:54] <ioria> qus, or better the ownership, should be you (iirc)
[18:58] <arcc> hola
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> !es | arcc
[18:59] <qus> ioria: I think that should work because when I tried right now to create the trash folder as the root and delete something as the root it worked. but when i tried to change the ownership with the command "chown -R myUserName ." the ownership didn't change
[18:59] <qus> ahhh i see, i should probably use sudo haha
[19:00] <ioria> ho, yes
[19:00] <qus> hm it still doesnt work :/
[19:01] <ioria> qus, what's the exact cmdyou issued ?
[19:02] <ioria> qus, sudo mkdir .Trash-$UID && sudo chown $USER:$USER .Trash-$UID
[19:02] <ioria> qus, sudo mkdir .Trash-$UID && sudo chown -R $USER:$USER .Trash-$UID
[19:03] <qus> i just did: "sudo chown -R username .", but now I will try your way
[19:03] <ioria> qus, check your UID first
[19:06] <qus> ioria: "echo $UID" returned 1000, but "sudo mkdir .Trash-1000 && sudo chown -R $USER:$USER .Trash-1000" didnt work, .Trash-1000 is still under root ownership
[19:07] <hggdh> qus: well, the moment you did 'sudo', you are not guid 1000 anymore...
[19:08] <ioria> qus, some errors when you run sudo chown -R .... ?
[19:08] <hggdh> also, be careful on mkdir .xx -- you are dependent on which directory you are under
[19:09] <qus> ioria: no no, the command ends successfully, but the Trash folder is still under root ownership
[19:10] <ioria> qus,  sudo chown $USER:$USER    .Trash-1000     and then paste ls -al .Trash-1000
[19:11] <qus> total 4drwxrwxrwx 1 root root    0 Apr 27 21:04 . drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4096 Apr 27 21:04 ..
[19:11] <ioria> nope
[19:11] <qus> haha
[19:12] <ioria> qus,  i don't see the folder name
[19:12] <EriC^^> qus: it sounds like the ext hdd is mounted in an awkward fashion, it's ntfs so it doesnt follow ext permission rules, use the filemanager to mount it in the usual /media/user area
[19:13] <ioria> qus,  ^what fs ?
[19:13] <EriC^^> qus: also you dont need to create the dir, just remove, the filemanager will usually create it for you
[19:13] <EriC^^> the uuid seemed ntfs
[19:13] <ioria> qus,  and the permissions are usually 700
[19:15] <mra90> what may "echo 432 > export" do?
[19:16] <qus> EriC^^: yes the hdd is ntfs (because dual boot). I unmounted it and mounted it from the filemanager, but still no luck
[19:16] <jeremy31> mra90: create a file named export that only has 432 for content
[19:16] <EriC^^> qus: try "sudo pkill nemo" then launch it again from the icon
[19:18] <EriC^^> mra90: it just creates a file called export with 432 in it
[19:18] <EriC^^> ah jeremy31 beat me to it :)
[19:19] <qus> EriC^^: still nothing
[19:19] <ioria> qus, can you paste   'mount'   output ?  probably the mountpoint it's not owned by you
[19:19] <EriC^^> qus: maybe it's a file manager setting you changed?
[19:19] <mra90> jeremy31, EriC^^ but it actually didn;t
[19:20] <EriC^^> qus: what happens if you right click then move to trash?
[19:20] <mra90> at least I don;t see such file in current dir
[19:20] <EriC^^> mra90: did it return any output after you ran the command?
[19:20] <jeremy31> mra90:  what directory is terminal using?  you should be able to do> cat export
[19:20] <mra90> no
[19:21] <EriC^^> mra90: try echo something > export && cat export
[19:21] <mra90> hmm no it create that file
[19:22] <mra90> but I had to proceed it with "sudo -i"
[19:22] <qus> EriC^^: "Cannot move file to trash, ..."
[19:22] <EriC^^> qus: does it mention why?
[19:22] <ioria> becuase it's owned by root
[19:23] <mra90> why I had to do shell - i before echo 432 > export
[19:23] <EriC^^> ioria: he did use the file manager to mount it, but it's worth a check
[19:23] <jeremy31> mra90: what is your prompt in terminal?
[19:23] <ioria> you can't move to trash if trash is root
[19:23] <EriC^^> mra90: you dont have permissions to create anything in the dir you're in
[19:23] <mra90> jeremy31: not sure what you ask but I am already logged as root
[19:23] <qus> EriC^^: Unable to find or create trash directory for /mnt/B84E44234E43D930/test2
[19:24] <jeremy31> mra90: in terminal, type exit
[19:24] <mra90> jeremy31: returned "logout"
[19:24] <ioria> qus, and why is under /mnt ?
[19:24] <mra90> but I ams still as root I see
[19:25] <jeremy31> mra90: so you see a # and not $
[19:25] <mra90> jeremy31: exactly
[19:25] <fesk> Hi, any known issue with ubuntu and BT?
[19:26] <fesk> It connects and goes silent...
[19:26] <jeremy31> fesk, more details
[19:27] <fesk> bluez 5.50, ubuntu newest, 19.04 or something. cmus
[19:27] <jeremy31> fesk audio device?
[19:27] <mra90> jeremy31: so what sudo -i really do
[19:27] <EriC^^> qus: type "sudo umount /mnt/B84E44234E43D930" then try mounting it from the file manager, and give the output of "mount | grep B84E44234E43D930" please
[19:27] <mra90> I read the man page
[19:27] <mra90> but its not obvious
[19:28] <fesk> macbook mid 2012 first intel,
[19:28] <EriC^^> mra90: it gives a login shell of root
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> fesk: do you use magic apple mouse?
[19:28] <mra90> EriC^^: and why it is need for "echo 432 > export" command?
[19:29] <fesk> some random bt dab radio, works fine on other dev. am i right to belive it's not related to cmus?
[19:29] <jeremy31> mra90: open a new terminal
[19:29] <EriC^^> mra90: well, my guess is that either you weren't using root before typing it, or you were in a dir that you cant create anything in, and sudo -i actualy takes you to /root
[19:29] <qus> EriC^^: /dev/sdb2 on /mnt/B84E44234E43D930 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096,x-gvfs-show)
[19:29] <mra90> EriC^^: that;s very likely
[19:29] <ioria> qus, it's owned by '0'
[19:29] <mra90> I mean I was in wrong root
[19:29] <mra90> sorry dir
[19:30] <wondows_> I have got a new PCI Express Wifi card and it's not recognized. All I get is WiFi Adapter Not Found.
[19:30] <qus> ioria: 0 is root, 1000 is $USER
[19:30] <ioria> qus, yes, exactly
[19:31] <EriC^^> qus: what's in /media?
[19:31] <jeremy31> wondows_: Post URL from terminal for "lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 net | nc termbin.com 9999"
[19:31] <EriC^^> qus: "ls -ld /media/*"
[19:31] <EriC^^> maybe it cant create anything there and it's defaulting to /mnt or something
[19:31] <wondows_> jeremy31: I will in a few, I'm on Windows atm
[19:31] <qus> EriC^^: drwxr-x---+ 2 root root 4096 Apr 17 21:40 /media/$USER
[19:32] <jeremy31> wondows_: same wifi in Windows?
[19:32] <EriC^^> qus: that looks right
[19:32] <EriC^^> qus: tbh if you want to save time/effort i'd ask in the linux mint channel they'd know more about the issue, just a thought
[19:32] <wondows_> Another important observation is that even on Windows this card did NOT work out of the box. No plug n play. I had to download and install the drivers from the TP Link website. I have another similar TP Link card which just works...
[19:33] <ioria> qus, i usually chown the mountpoint
[19:33] <devslash> j #mysql
[19:33] <EriC^^> it's normal that /media/user has those perms, it has an acl for the user there
[19:33] <ioria> qus, sudo chown -R /mnt/B84E44234E43D930
[19:33] <wondows_> I am already feeling hopeless before I even try to make this work.
[19:33] <jeremy31> wondows_: can you get into control panel, device manager, wifi network adapter property page and get the hardware ID's
[19:33] <ioria> qus, sudo chown -R  $USER:$USER /mnt/B84E44234E43D930
[19:35] <qus> ioria: still nothing. thank you both ioria and EriC^^, I will try tomorrow with linux mint people.
[19:35] <wondows_> jeremy31: not sure where the hardware id is really
[19:36] <ioria> qus,  /mnt/B84E44234E43D930/.Trash-1000  is still owned by root ?
[19:36] <qus> ioria: yes
[19:37] <jeremy31> wondows_: I guess I will need results from the command then
[19:37] <wondows_> This is the device https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/download/archer-t6e/#Driver The driver is from 2015\
[19:37] <wondows_> (Windows driver ofc)
[19:37] <mra90> I don;t have nay idea how this blnking led would work https://wiki.up-community.org/Pinout_UP2#GPIO
[19:38] <mra90> echo 1 > value just create a file named "value" with 1 in it so how could it control HW LED
[19:38] <ioria> qus, add 'user' in the mount options in gdisks
[19:38] <ioria> qus, add 'user' in the mount options in gnome-disks
[19:39] <fesk> guess i'll use the built in speakers then, same same.
[19:40] <ioria> qus,  umount, remount and paste again  'mount'
[19:40] <jeremy31> wondows_: in Ubuntu terminal do> sudo apt update && sudo apt install broadcom-sta-dkms
[19:40] <fesk> also, wooha using irssi again after 15years, nooice
[19:50] <wondows_> This is the output of lspci https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Y2hQBbQrmR/
[19:51] <wondows_> I'm on Ubuntu now and I'm using another PCI Wifi card
[19:51] <wondows_> and I was surprised how on Windows I could swap cards while running and it worked whilst on Ubuntu I had to restart
[19:51] <jeremy31> wondows_: what result for> mokutil --sb-state | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:52] <wondows_> jeremy31: https://termbin.com/goti
[19:53] <wondows_> but I'm using another card atm
[19:54] <jeremy31> wondows can you go into BIOS and restore factory boot keys, or you could just try> sudo apt update && sudo apt install broadcom-sta-dkms
[19:54] <wondows_> What do I have to do to be able to swap cars while running?
[19:54] <wondows_> *cards
[19:54] <jeremy31> wondows, shutdown after running command and then swap
[19:54] <wondows_> ok will do
[19:58] <wondows> jeremy31: It works now (!)
[19:58] <wondows> after installing broadcom-sta-dkms
[19:58] <wondows> Thanks
[20:01] <mra90> what do when device is busy?
[20:01] <mra90> how to ublock it
[20:01] <mra90> I do "echo 432 > export" and get respone back saying " device or resource busy"
[20:01] <EriC^^> what device
[20:01] <wondows> Anyways I was surprised this device did not just work out of the box, even on Windows... also given that the other one did (different device, though also a TP Link)
[20:01] <mra90> EriC^^: I would love to know
[20:02] <EriC^^> mra90: type 'df -h .'
[20:02] <mra90> EriC^^: I follow this https://wiki.up-community.org/Pinout_UP2#GPIO
[20:02] <mra90> EriC^^: and look for what?
[20:02] <jeremy31> wondows: It is supported by a proprietary broadcom driver not included in the kernel.  I try to buy Intel wifi devices
[20:02] <mra90> ahh I orgot the dot at the end
[20:02] <mra90> EriC^^: it says sysfs 0 0 0 0
[20:03] <mia> Hello channel
[20:03] <mia> wondering what command line speedtest tool is good and reliable
[20:03] <mia> speedtest-cli is inconsistend compared to speedtest.net
[20:03] <mia> so maybe there is a better alternative?
[20:04] <EriC^^> mra90: what does "echo $UID && echo $PWD" give?
[20:04] <mra90> EriC^^: 0 and below /sys/class/gpio
[20:06] <mra90> EriC^^: why the LED doesn;t blink, what may be wrong?
[20:07] <mra90> it says the device is busy when I do "echo 432 > export"
[20:07] <mra90> so first I am thinking about unlockig it
[20:07] <tomreyn> mia: are you trying to test bandwidth, link reliability, comunicating with a specific target?
[20:08] <mia> tomreyn, oh sorry that I forgot to mention
[20:09] <mia> internet down/up speed test
[20:11] <tomreyn> mia: i do use speedtext-cli for this, and got consistent results. you could also use iperf.
[20:11] <phunyguy> PLEASE stop sending folks to #ubuntu-offtopic for support.
[20:11] <phunyguy> thank you.
[20:13] <mia> thanks tomreyn
[20:47] <bernyrd> hello
[20:47] <bernyrd> massive problem
[20:47] <bernyrd> ubuntu boots, but the last message I get is "Reached target cloud-init target" but I never installed this
[20:47] <bernyrd> it keeps plasma desktop from starting
[20:47] <bernyrd> I need desktop
[20:47] <bernyrd> someone nvidia-410 was installed but I did not want this
[20:47] <bernyrd> I have to use the binary driver
[20:47] <bernyrd> I keep having to undo this but it is a different problem each time
[20:48] <bernyrd> please if I can just get plasma started I can fix
[20:48] <bernyrd> I try systemctl disable cloud-init
[20:48] <bernyrd> but on reboot I see same message
[20:48] <kjwehf> is there any reason I would't want my drives to boot up on startup? I keep manually mounting them when I need them atm.
[20:51] <kjwehf> hey every1 berny is harrasing me with clown emojis
[20:52] <bernyrd> he sent me lots of cowboys please help I am not a cowboy
[20:52] <bernyrd> I just want working graphics drivers
[20:52] <bernyrd> I use systemctl to disable everything that starts with cloud- in the services
[20:52] <bernyrd> sddm tries to start now, but gets no display
[20:54] <Myth> I can see GRUB looks proper on the partition as indicated in GPARTED, but my computer isn't booting Grub. I tried to run Boot Repair from a Live USB of Ubuntu 18.04 (the OS I've installed) but I get the following error: https://paste.opensuse.org/view//31801573
[20:54] <Myth> I've run the advanced boot repair as well: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bztWJHYX7V/
[20:54] <Myth> The instructions I followed were: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:55] <kjwehf> @myth too many ppl have problems atm urll have to come back later
[20:55] <bernyrd> Myth: does that partition exist
[20:56] <Myth> kjwehf, Okay, but this is the third time I've come here with this exact issue this week
[20:56] <Myth> bernyrd, As far as I can tell, the partition exists
[20:56] <kjwehf> sounds like ur doing something wrong if youve gotten the same error 3 times
[20:56] <bernyrd> can you try grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --boot-dir=/boot after mounting that partition
[20:56] <bernyrd> or... the command looks like that at least
[20:57] <jeremy31> Myth some computers you may have to go into BIOS settings and change OS boot to ubuntu or use custom EFI to choose the correct efi file
[20:57] <Tilo> Anyone having problems with Nodejs after the recent update?
[20:58] <Tilo> I keep getting this weird error every time I try to use npm no matter how many times I uninstall/purge and reinstall
[20:59] <kjwehf> y do u ppl use ubunut. its like u have a million problems a minute
[20:59] <Myth> kjwehf, No, the problem is the same. It hasn't been resolved. I've run Ubuntu 18.04 on this system before. I had to reinstall recently due to an issue with a PPA. bernyrd I will try it now. Thanks. jeremy31 I see your point. I've messed with the boot sequence but I'm a bit lost as to what the issue might be
[20:59] <kjwehf> launching a box now. getting ready to enter a vrtual machine
[20:59] <jeremy31> Myth from a live ISO in terminal check> efibootmgr   see what the boot order is
[21:00] <Tilo> For context, Im using Mate
[21:00] <Tilo> so I probably brought this upon myself
[21:00] <Myth> I'm going to reboot really quickly. BRB
[21:02] <Tilo> kjwehf: time to install gentoo I guess
[21:03] <Tilo> btw if you ever want to see a shitshow go to any gentoo chat and say "gentoo is just Arch with worse documentation being maintained alone by Richard Stallman in a closet at MIT"
[21:14] <Myth> Ok, I am on the Live USB now
[21:15] <jeremy31> Myth: in terminal> efibootmgr | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:15] <Krennic> is any prioblems with ubuntu 19.04 from time to time freezes
[21:15] <Krennic> and i have to restart my pc
[21:16] <Myth> https://imgur.com/a/i9rj7qM
[21:16] <Myth> jeremy31, Ok. Here I go
[21:17] <Myth> jeremy31, https://termbin.com/wjz2
[21:18] <jeremy31> Myth, try and reboot> sudo efibootmgr -o 0000
[21:20] <Myth> jeremy31, Output of command: https://paste.opensuse.org/view//38917631
[21:21] <tomreyn> !details | Krennic
[21:22] <mra90> how can I write a module to turn an led on/off? Any guide?
[21:22] <jeremy31> Myth:  try a reboot
[21:23] <Myth> jeremy31, Back into Live USB, correct?
[21:23] <jeremy31> Myth, remove USB and see if it boots into Ubuntu correctly
[21:23] <Myth> jeremy31, Aye-aye. o7 brb
[21:28] <mra90> what "sudo sh" does?
[21:29] <xamithan> calls a shell with full privs
[21:29] <jeremy31> mra90:  I am not sure, have you tried a google search?
[21:33] <mra90> xamithan: this is very difficult to operate I can not tab, arrows prints [[[
[21:33] <mra90> jeremy31: yes but it wasn't cleart
[21:33] <xamithan> Well sh is the very basic shell,  it isn't bash
[21:33] <xamithan> hjkl is likely the way to move it
[21:34] <jeremy31> wondows: If you have issues with your wifi, make sure your router is set to a fixed channel on 2.4 GHz, 1-11 as a channel on 2.4 above channel 11 will likely fail
[21:35] <wondows> jeremy31: I'm setting up a new router btw
[21:35] <wondows> gotta disconnect
[21:38] <Myth> jeremy31, I've returned. I spent a few minutes messing with my boot sequence to see if I could get Grub to come up, but it didn't. I took 2 snapshots for you to see: https://imgur.com/a/W2mhcLP
[21:38] <Myth> https://imgur.com/a/kGEZ2lT
[21:39] <Myth> I'm on Ubuntu 18.04 (installed on SSD 2/2). I have Windows 10 on SSD 1/2
[21:40] <jeremy31> Myth does Win 10 boot?
[21:41] <Myth> jeremy31, Yes, both drives have their boot partitions and OS partitions. Windows 10 was installed first to avoid issues. Both drives boot. Both OS' boot
[21:42] <Myth> I have an HDD for media formatted NTFS that both OS' access
[21:42] <Myth> For context (though perhaps redundant), I've had both working fine for some time. This is a reinstall of Ubuntu due to issues with a PPA (which I will no longer use XD)
[21:43] <Myth> When I installed Ubuntu this time around, I let the system *Erase Disk and install Ubuntu 18.04
[21:43] <jeremy31> Myth I am about at the end of my knowledge with this one
[21:43] <Myth> jeremy31, Understood. Thanks for the help. Greatly appreciated
[21:44] <Myth> jeremy31, I suppose a fresh install may help, but how to avoid this issue cropping up again eludes me
[21:45] <Myth> It is as though the installer didn't detect the other OS on the other drive for some reason. That, or Grub is in error in general
[21:45] <jeremy31> Myth I think it might be because of duplicate entries in efibootmgr but I don't have any experience fixing that
[21:46] <Myth> jeremy31, I saw that and worried about it too. I'm also inexperienced with that
[21:46] <Myth> Guess I'd best do some research
[21:50] <jeremy31> Myth: you could post on ubuntuforums.org  there are a couple members that are really good
[21:51] <Myth> jeremy31, Good idea
[21:52] <Guest17830> hello
[21:53] <revolt112> hi
[22:06] <donofrio_> ok so I installed on my machine and it seems everything is owned by root, how do I reset whole / root install permissions
[22:07] <OerHeks> donofrio_, how do you tell all is owned by root?
[22:47] <jcb2016> hello im installing another os on sda2 sda1 is ubuntu. if i run os-prober and update grub will it update my grub or what should i do?
[22:48] <rory> If the other OS also installs Grub, it should detect Ubuntu and add it to the list
[22:48] <jeremy31> jcb2016: What OS do you want in charge of grub?
[22:49] <jcb2016> ubuntu
[22:53] <Gerowen> Anybody know why network transfers on a gigabit network would cap out at around 67MB/s, when using the same hardware on Windows they would run at around 110MB/s?
[22:54] <jcb2016> jeremy31, i just run os-prober and update-grub right?
[22:54] <Gerowen> I even added a second drive and paired my two storage drives together in RAID1 and still only get a little more than half of what I should be getting.
[22:54] <revolt112> @Gerowen, FTP, SFTP, Samba ?
[22:55] <Gerowen> Samba
[22:55] <ryuo> Gerowen: try iperf. it's possibly a driver issue.
[23:19] <donofrio_> OerHeks, because it looks like this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xNdCDhBh2d
[23:20] <Gerowen> ryuo: iperf reports 934 Mbits/sec , which is totally acceptible, but not what I'm getting when I copy files via samba back and forth.  I guess that tells me it's something with Samba, nautilus, etc.
[23:21] <tomreyn> donofrio_: what seems wrong about this?
[23:22] <donofrio_> I cannot startxfce4 from my donofrio account only root
[23:23] <tomreyn> donofrio_: use a login manager. (i have a feeling i told you so in #ubuntu-powerpc before?)
[23:23] <tomreyn> also is this is about ubuntu on powerpc, the right channel would be #ubuntu-powerpc
[23:23] <tomreyn> s/also is/also if/
[23:24] <tomreyn> it's a port, may behave differently.
[23:25] <OerHeks> That would be essential info, indeed.
[23:26] <OerHeks> funny to see a folder called snap, are there any ppc snaps?
[23:36] <Apachez> oh great, my alt+tab to switch between running windows in gnome is gone after update to 19.04... anyone who remember what setting I should alter to get that back?
[23:55] <entrepreneur_> Hi, how can fix a problem with a Python 3.7 version, I was installed and now don't work well apt-get update command?.
[23:57] <route309> Hello Folks, Does anyone own the new System76 Darter Pro laptop?  What are your thoughts about it?  Does it look and feel "premium"