[09:04] <lifeless> yeah
[09:04] <gobeavs> I first installed cedega, and am now installing point2play and getting the latest cedega on top of it
[09:04] <gobeavs> will it overwrite the previous cedega
[09:05] <gobeavs> or will it have problems?
[09:05] <gobeavs> getting the latest cedega through P2P because it doesn't recognize I already have it
[09:05] <crimsun> a question better posed in #cedega
[09:06] <gobeavs> ah
[09:06] <gobeavs> ok
[09:06] <gobeavs> thx
[09:08] <kipod> azureus dl very slow for me ( all though i m uploading at 22Kb/s ) no metter what i m trying to dl with it , it downloads it at 3Kb/s. did some had this problem ? do u know the sulosion ?
[09:10] <crimsun> kipod: are you behind a "adsl router?"
[09:12] <kipod> crimsun,  yeah i m
[09:13] <zenrox> now i am using xdmcp connect to it so i can take off its montor keyboard and mouse
[09:13] <crimsun> kipod: you need to forward ports 6881-6889 incoming tcp to your computer
[09:13] <crimsun> kipod: see your ISP's support web site for documentation if you use an ISP-provided "router"
[09:14] <kipod> i have configured my router to forward but  i don't know how to configure it on AZUTEUS ....
[09:14] <izaac> kipod: yeah dude you need it or the router manufacturer page and then you can get into the http manager of your router
[09:15] <zerok> hi :-)
[09:15] <izaac> kipod: just foward the ports that crimsun says
[09:15] <zerok> can i also ask questions about hoary here?
[09:15] <kipod> izaac,  i have
[09:16] <diego> zerok: yeah
[09:16] <kipod> 4 weeks ago
[09:16] <izaac> :O
[09:16] <hartbrkr> what does GRUB error 18 mean? last time I installed ubuntu I had a reiserfs / partition, and grub gave me error 17. now I have ext3 /, and I get 18 ..
[09:17] <izaac> kipod: strange
[09:17] <izaac> zerok: yes you can
[09:17] <cartman> ;-)
[09:17] <cartman> first bug that is
[09:18] <diego> hartbrkr: surely there is a nice table of what grub error codes refer to somewhere. we can't be expected to memorize all error codes
[09:19] <zerok> tnx :-) i was just searching for a pastebin without php syntax highlighting ;-)
[09:19] <zerok> since about yesterday, the dpkg db seems to be broken for me :S http://pastebin.ca/3615 any idea how i can fix that?
[09:25] <zerok> hmm.... what exactly does /var/lib/dpkg/available store? a list of installed packages or the packages that could be installed?
[09:28] <zerok> ok, problem solved :-)
[09:28] <diego> zerok: how was the problem solved?
[09:28] <zerok> diego, dpkg --clear-avail ; dpkg -C
[09:29] <diego> interesting
[09:30] <zerok> i was just not sure what "available" stores so i wanted to ask first. but then i remembered that this is a more or less clean installation (ok, some small things here and there) so reinstalling the whole systeme shouldn't be a tragedy :-)
[09:30] <hartbrkr> diego thanks
[09:30] <zerok> brb. have to test 2.6.10 ;-)
[09:31] <diego> hartbrkr: for being an ass? not a problem :D
[09:31] <hartbrkr> diego, surely there's an ass in every channel. I can't be expected to know it's you. mahahaha
[09:31] <ImTheAssInThisCh> now you can.
[09:32] <Synek> hi]
[09:32] <GoneBoB> HAPPY NEW YEAR
[09:32] <GoneBoB> oh wait.. I'm not in my own person timezone
[09:32] <Synek> ;]
[09:32] <GoneBoB> happy new year for later
[09:33] <Synek> yup, 14,5 h left ;)
[09:33] <GoneBoB> not from here
[09:33] <GoneBoB> 4.5 hrs
[09:34] <hartbrkr> it's 12:33AM 31-12-04 here
[09:34] <GoneBoB> hehe
[09:34] <GoneBoB> Fri Dec 31 19:35:04 EST 2004
[09:34] <Synek> 9:35 am :)
[09:42] <yorhel> help! I just did a dist-upgrade to hoary, but it stopped updating and complains about kdelibs-data, which can't be unpacked :(
[09:43] <yorhel> is there a way to skip that package, since I only need it for k3b, AFAIK
[09:43] <cartman> yorhel: k3b depends on  kdelibs
[09:44] <tk-taut> is there any way to install Ubuntu with KDE?
[09:44] <cartman> tk-taut: KDE is available from "universe"
[09:44] <yorhel> I know k3b depends on kdelibs, but I dont need k3b now...
[09:44] <davyd> yorhel: you could remove it
[09:45] <cartman> yorhel: dpkg --purge remove k3b
[09:46] <yorhel> hmm... *trying*
[09:47] <yorhel> it still tries to update kdelibs-data...
[09:48] <yorhel> and then stops upgrading
[09:48] <cartman> then you got something depends on it
[09:49] <yorhel> ah, yes, I see...
[09:50] <yorhel> yeay, the hoary upgrade is continues... :)
[09:50] <yorhel> thnx
[09:50] <yorhel> ah, damn, bad english...srry :)
[09:51] <abelli> does someone know where the gdm's error messages are?
[09:51] <abelli> stored ?
[09:51] <crimsun> abelli: /var/log/gdm/
[09:52] <abelli> no i mean the error messages it prints
[09:52] <abelli> where does it take them from?
[09:55] <da_bon_bon> hi all. happy new year :)
[09:55] <abelli> ciao
[09:55] <yorhel> hmm, too early for a new year :)
[09:56] <abelli> yorhel: where are you?
[09:57] <yorhel> netherlands
[09:57] <yorhel> 9:30 am here
[09:57] <da_bon_bon> if my modem  is on com2, what is it -> /dev/ttyXX ??
[09:57] <abelli> you should be partying yet
[09:57] <cartman> da_bon_bon: ttyS1
[09:57] <da_bon_bon> cartman: thanks
[09:58] <cartman> np
[09:58] <abelli> cartman: may the dark side of the force (Gnome) be with you
[09:58] <cartman> abelli: I rather choose other dark side ;-)
[09:59] <abelli> ;)
[09:59] <abelli> ehehe
[09:59] <cartman> abelli: though some core KDE developers said they find Ubuntu great
[09:59] <cartman> *blink*
[10:00] <abelli> cartman: though some core KDE developers have said something wise [the only thing...]  in their life
[10:00] <abelli> ;)
[10:00] <cartman> abelli: makes me wonder how many KDE developer you actually know
[10:00] <cartman> anyway I don't want a DE fight
[10:00] <abelli> abelli: noone..
[10:01] <zenrox> sweet
[10:01] <abelli> hopefully..
[10:01] <zenrox> i love how i can connect to antoehr linux box and get a xnest login
[10:01] <abelli> blah.. arghh.. noo.. one actually, and we attend the same university...
[10:02] <crimsun> abelli: I don't know. Can't find anything in the listed installed files nor on google. Perhaps it's embedded in the source and thus translated into the po files?
[10:02] <cartman> abelli: this "I hate KDE" thing will not bring you new Ubuntu users
[10:03] <abelli> abelli: what ?
[10:03] <abelli> cartman: what?
[10:03] <abelli> cartman: did i say that?
[10:03] <cartman> abelli: you sound so :P
[10:03] <abelli> cartman: did i ever say that :)?
[10:03] <cartman> no but you don't have to
[10:03] <abelli> :)
[10:04] <cartman> anyway Hoary+KDE rocks here :-P
[10:05] <abelli> cartman: actually i just don't suggest/advise ppl to use it with ubuntu, since it's not supported and they're not all kde core developers...
[10:06] <cartman> abelli: valid point
[10:06] <abelli> :)
[10:06] <abelli> happy new year cartman
[10:06] <cartman> you too abelli :-)
[10:10] <cartman> abelli: I knew I shouldn't mess with you
[10:10] <cartman> ;-)
[10:11] <abelli> cartman: AiKiDo... O'Sensey once wrote: "is to harmonize with the movement of the universe and bring ourselves into accord with the universe itself."
[10:12] <cartman> good one :-)
[10:12] <cartman> also Gandhi said "An eye for eye will make the whole world blind"
[10:12] <cartman> ;-)
[10:12] <abelli> AiKiDo: The Way of Harmony
[10:12] <abelli> cartman: let's wear sunglasses
[10:12] <abelli> ...sorry i'm stupid..
[10:12] <abelli> sorry
[10:13] <cartman> that was a bad one :-)
[10:16] <abelli> cartman: i know you know where gdm stores all the messages to be printed?
[10:19] <cartman> abelli: no idea but it should be in /var/log :-)
[10:19] <abelli> again: sorry, i mean where all the messages it can print are stored: the configuration file?
[10:20] <cartman> abelli: that would be in gdm's source code
[10:20] <abelli> arghh..
[10:20] <abelli> no .po file?
[10:20] <abelli> ehehe
[10:20] <cartman> abelli: hah :)
[10:20] <cartman> debug messages are for developers
[10:20] <cartman> so they are not translated usually
[10:21] <abelli> yep but like "you stupid donkey kong 4 have mistyped your password"..
[10:21] <abelli> it's translated...
[10:22] <cartman> well its an error
[10:22] <abelli> yes?
[10:22] <abelli> s/?/!
[10:22] <Josip> happy new year everybody
[10:22] <Josip> ;_)
[10:22] <abelli> ciao Josip
[10:22] <Josip> just came from school .
[10:22] <cartman> abelli: you better ask gdm developer(s)
[10:23] <cartman> brb
[10:26] <StarScream> question, if i install ubuntu warty on my ibook can i a) uninstall Xfree in install xorg b) since KDE isn't working on warty ppc, just use a debian-ppc sid/sarge source  for KDE
[10:28] <hannes__> stuNNed: pong :D
[10:28] <davyd> StarScream: the universe source is Debian
[10:29] <davyd> StarScream: failing that, try hoary, which uses X.org
[10:29] <davyd> and tracks development
[10:31] <pschulz01> Hmmm.. nobody here?
[10:32] <zAo^> why pschulz01 ?
[10:35] <pschulz01> Sorry.. slow link.. giam now shows 253 people. Woops.
[10:35] <zAo^> so >?
[10:37] <StarScream> davyd: i tried hoary but the updates kept breaking my speedtouch modems packages, and unfortunatley hoary didn't have KDE either. Warty was extreemly stable for me though
[10:38] <davyd> StarScream: you need the universe and multiverse sourcs
[10:40] <pschulz01> how do I findn out what section a particular piece of software is in?
[10:40] <pschulz01> eg. main, restricted, universe
[10:43] <zerok> pschulz01, perhaps this list helps you :-) http://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/hoary/allpackages.en.txt.gz
[10:54] <davyd> pschulz01: apt-cache policy is good
[10:55] <davyd> so apt-cache policy evolution
[10:55] <davyd> will tell you what versions are available, what you have installed and where it comes from
[10:56] <Olivier_54> hi
[10:57] <abelli> ciao
[11:00] <grumbel> I wanna switch from Debian unstable to ubuntu, any caveats I should be aware of (lack of software, outdated software or whatever)?
[11:00] <zerok> is it somehow possible to change the keyboard layout in gdm?
[11:01] <GoneBoB> grumbel: none that particularly come to mind
[11:01] <GoneBoB> in terms of a comparison
[11:01] <GoneBoB> there are some packages which are older or troublesome to install in ubuntu as opposed to debian
[11:01] <GoneBoB> but on the whole I find it's much better
[11:01] <cartman> grumbel: rm /etc/init.d/xfree86-common before apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:02] <cartman> I put deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted univers in sources.list
[11:02] <cartman> and update && dist-upgrade
[11:02] <mjr> I think warty's universe lacks galeon
[11:02] <GoneBoB> haorys doesn't at least
[11:02] <mjr> Otherwise I'm happy
[11:02] <cartman> s/univers /universe
[11:03] <GoneBoB> I'm using it right now
[11:07] <Arc> grr
[11:07] <Arc> where do I get ncurses from?
[11:07] <Arc> ncurses-devel doesnt exist and ncurses has been flagged
[11:08] <Arc> er, ncurses doesnt exist but other packages reference it
[11:08] <cartman> libncurses5 & libncurses5-dev
[11:08] <grumbel> ok, time for install then, see you later...
[11:22] <yorhel> grr, I just followed the tips from the "hear multiple sounds at once" howto @ forum, but now the gnome-panel doesnt load :(
[11:22] <yorhel> (I always seem to have weird prolems =)
[11:23] <sonnyblack> hi all
[11:24] <yorhel> is there any way to undo the changes?
[11:24] <sonnyblack> guys, last night i switched my graphic board from geforce FX 5200 128MB to geforce4 64MB...after that no audio at all...any tip?
[11:26] <yorhel> sonnyblack: sounds like we are the only 2 awake here XD
[11:26] <sonnyblack> yep
[11:27] <sonnyblack> damn...cant hear anything...
[11:27] <yorhel> wel, I just tried to config ubuntu to play multiple sounds @ once, but now my gnome-panel wont load :(
[11:28] <yorhel> sound is a problem in ubuntu :P
[11:28] <sonnyblack> it worked fine, till tonite
[11:28] <RuffianSoldier> Im running Hoary - I did a apt-get upgrade (It sayed nothing to be installed) then just for no reson apt-get dist-upgrade (WHOAH! 64 MBs of stuff? But I already upgraded to hoary!) Should I proceed?
[11:29] <yorhel> RuffianSoldier: a dist-upgrade != upgrade :)
[11:29] <RuffianSoldier> i know
[11:29] <sonnyblack> i'll wait till the official release...
[11:29] <RuffianSoldier> i sayed that alot!
[11:29] <sonnyblack> just downloading some backports
[11:29] <RuffianSoldier> then I upgraded
[11:30] <RuffianSoldier> WOOOHOO!
[11:30] <yorhel> I just upgraded
[11:30] <yorhel> works fine, exept for some small problems...lol
[11:31] <yorhel> geez... is everyone sleeping here!?
[11:31] <StarScream> yeh
[11:32] <sonnyblack> guys yet long way to new year's day...here at least... :)
[11:36] <yorhel> wake up! be4 I reboot to windows... I want to avoid that!
[11:37] <RuffianSoldier> IM AWAKE IM AWAK!
[11:37] <RuffianSoldier> DONT BOOT INTO WINDOWS
[11:37] <yorhel> heh, need some1 awake who can help :)
[11:37] <RuffianSoldier> YOUR COMPUTER DESEARVES BETTER!
[11:37] <RuffianSoldier> anywa
[11:37] <RuffianSoldier> whats up?
[11:37] <yorhel> I know, I know...
[11:37] <yorhel> grr, I just followed the tips from the "hear multiple sounds at once" howto @ forum, but now the gnome-panel doesnt load :(
[11:38] <yorhel> I love my chat-history :)
[11:38] <RuffianSoldier> ok
[11:38] <RuffianSoldier> try #gnome :-(
[11:38] <RuffianSoldier> i dont know anything about it :-(
[11:38] <yorhel> hehe...
[11:40] <RuffianSoldier> uhho
[11:40] <sirfred> Morning
[11:40] <RuffianSoldier> that breaded bird carcass is coming backup
[11:40] <RuffianSoldier> hi sirfred
[11:41] <sirfred> Strange thing here on Hoary. I've got installed nautilus-cd-burner that says 'Replaces: nautilus-cd-burner'
[11:41] <sirfred> But I've also nautilus-cd-burner installed.
[11:42] <RuffianSoldier> sirfred - it means you already have an old version
[11:42] <RuffianSoldier> i believe
[11:42] <sirfred> Humm, a little confusing.
[11:42] <RuffianSoldier> you trying to install it?
[11:42] <yorhel> no, just reinstall :)
[11:42] <sirfred> What I've got installed that says that replaces nautilus-cd-burner is libnautilus-burn0
[11:42] <sonnyblack> guys, last night i switched my graphic board from geforce FX 5200 128MB to geforce4 64MB...after that no audio at all...any tip?
[11:42] <sirfred> Is that libnautilus-burn0 supposed to be a improved way to burn CDs on gnome?
[11:43] <RuffianSoldier> sonnyblack ..............
[11:43] <emanuelez> hello *
[11:43] <RuffianSoldier> hi
[11:43] <RuffianSoldier> WHOAH
[11:43] <RuffianSoldier> there awake
[11:43] <RuffianSoldier> ill hit the bong
[11:43] <sirfred> sonnyblack: That's really strange, man.
[11:43] <yorhel> yeay, im still in linux btw :_
[11:43] <emanuelez> i see there's rpm package in the repositories... what is it there for?
[11:44] <RuffianSoldier> HUH!?!??!?1/?!?!]
[11:44] <RuffianSoldier> NO WAY!
[11:44] <sirfred> sonnyblack: Have you plugged the geforce on the same slot than the audio card, using a hammer?
[11:44] <RuffianSoldier> I DOTN BELIEVE IT EMANUELEZ!
[11:44] <cartman> RuffianSoldier: caps off
[11:44] <sonnyblack> sirfred , i don't think so ... :)
[11:44] <sirfred> emanuelez: For installing RPM packages.
[11:44] <emanuelez> RuffianSoldier: try apt-cache search rpm
[11:44] <sonnyblack> i don't see any relation between the two things...but that is...
[11:45] <sirfred> Description: Red Hat package manager
[11:45] <sirfred>  If you want to install Red Hat Packages then please use the alien
[11:45] <sirfred>  package. Using rpm directly will bypass the Debian packaging system!
[11:45] <cartman> emanuelez: apt-cache show alien
[11:45] <sirfred> emanuelez: It has some interesting utilities, like rpm2cpio
[11:45] <sirfred> emanuelez:Perhaps alien uses it.
[11:46] <RuffianSoldier> OMG! RPM in my system? Ill wipe Ubuntu off the HD tommorow!
[11:46] <RuffianSoldier> jk
[11:46] <sirfred> Depends: debhelper (>= 3), perl (>= 5.6.0-16), rpm (>= 2.4.4-2), dpkg-dev, make, cpio
[11:46] <RuffianSoldier> FC = EVIL
[11:48] <sirfred> Does anybody know any alternative to the nautilus-cd-burner, other than k3b?
[11:48] <sonnyblack> xcdroast ?
[11:48] <sirfred> sonnyblack: Is it using gtk2?
[11:49] <sonnyblack> gnome u mean?
[11:49] <sirfred> sonnyblack: No, it isn't
[11:49] <sirfred> sonnyblack: I mean gtk2, the same toolkit used by gnome, yes.
[11:49] <sirfred> sonnyblack: I've seen it's using gtk1.2
[11:49] <RuffianSoldier> sirfred - whats wrong with k3b? Anyway - theres a real nice console one
[11:50] <sonnyblack> it's weird..no error msg anyway...just no audio at all
[11:50] <sirfred> RuffianSoldier: Well, it looks like an alien app on a gnome system.
[11:50] <sirfred> RuffianSoldier: It doesn't support my UTF-8 filenames.
[11:50] <RuffianSoldier> :(
[11:50] <RuffianSoldier> im going to cry
[11:50] <RuffianSoldier> :'(
[11:51] <sirfred> sonnyblack: Humm, what about opening alsamixer on a console?
[11:51] <sonnyblack> did it
[11:51] <sonnyblack> looks like all ok
[11:51] <sirfred> sonnyblack: So, is your card detected?
[11:51] <sirfred> sonnyblack: Do you have any MM on the main controls?
[11:51] <Nabiki> I just installed Ubuntu, and have not set up the network yet so I am not currently in Linux... My question, is how do I tell it to mount an NTFS drive? ^^
[11:51] <sirfred> sonnyblack: Be sure they're not muted.
[11:52] <sirfred> At least Master and PCM
[11:53] <sonnyblack> sirfred, , no i solved it out, thx...it was even simpler...damn >:|
[11:54] <sirfred> sonnyblack:Plugged in the loudspeakers?
[11:54] <sirfred> sonnyblack: :)
[11:55] <sonnyblack> lol
[11:55] <sonnyblack> thx anyway
[11:55] <sonnyblack> :)
[11:56] <emanuelez> what's cpio?
[11:56] <sirfred> emanuelez: Something like tar.
[11:56] <sirfred> emanuelez: I think it's not very used nowadays.
[11:56] <emanuelez> sirfred: i see... thx
[12:00] <Shimonn> hi, my network config failed during the install
[12:00] <Shimonn> i think the module wasn't loaded
[12:01] <sonnyblack> guys what will be the major changes in hoary?
[12:01] <Shimonn> i loaded it (modprobe tulip) and now, to to re-setup eth0 ?
[12:01] <Shimonn> s/to to/how to
[12:05] <lupusBE> sonnyblack: see on the wiki
[12:05] <sirfred> sonnyblack: I'm using hoary now.
[12:05] <sirfred> sonnyblack: It's synced with the new version of gnome, so I suppose the improvements are related.
[12:06] <lupusBE> I think the most important once are: beter international support and X.org
[12:06] <sirfred> sonnyblack: I expect the multimedia stuff to improve.
[12:06] <sirfred> I'm feeling x.org slower than xfree, to say the truth.
[12:06] <lupusBE> I'll guess they will tweak it :)
[12:07] <lupusBE> sonnyblack: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryGoals
[12:09] <ikaro> morning everyone.
[12:10] <Nabiki> Is anyone here dual booting with XP?
[12:10] <lupusBE> yes
[12:10] <Nabiki> :P How do I mount an NTFS drive? :)
[12:11] <yorhel> Nabiki: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/[some_dir]
[12:11] <dud> you seduse it with flowers
[12:11] <yorhel> Nabiki: I'm a dual-booter :)
[12:12] <Nabiki> Thanks! :-)
[12:12] <yorhel> and I'm pretty mad @ ubuntu now, so I think I'm going to reboot to windows soon...grrr
[12:13] <Nabiki> Does it have to be in /mnt? ^^
[12:13] <josh0710> hi everyone
[12:13] <yorhel> Nabiki: nope, can be everywhere
[12:13] <Nabiki> Why are you mad at ubuntu? ^_^
[12:13] <josh0710> can anyone help me with the location of the ubuntu kernel c header files?
[12:13] <yorhel> Can't get my sound working, and the gnome-panel just broke :@
[12:14] <Shimonn> where to choose the module to use for eth0 ?
[12:14] <josh0710> ?
[12:15] <Shimonn> my network doesn't work
[12:15] <Nabiki> O.o Somehow my system just worked when it came to the sound. ^^
[12:15] <Nabiki> What options would I need to use to place an NTFS file system in fstab? :)(
[12:16] <Shimonn> my ethernet card works with the "tulip" module, and it seems the auto-detection failed
[12:28] <Arnald> is there a dvb howto for ubuntu?
[12:30] <santanu> join
[12:31] <santanu> oops
[12:32] <santanu> hello, i tried to use the ubuntu archive for universe packages, but it seems too slow. Where can I find the mirrors to use.
[12:32] <santanu> D
[12:33] <Arnald> I've never seen such a poorly documented linux feature as dvb ;(
[12:33] <santanu> IIRC, debian has something called netselect or similar to select the mirrors to use
[12:33] <Arnald> I'm so experienced in Linux it's just embarrassing ;)
[12:33] <Nabiki> bbl
[12:35] <Arc> guess what - realtek has 2.4 kernel drivers for the linksys wpc11 ver 4 cards
[12:35] <Arc> can ubuntu run on a 2.4 kernel?
[12:37] <lupusBE> warty can I think
[12:37] <lupusBE> but hoary not
[12:37] <lupusBE> if I'm not mistaking
[12:37] <lupusBE> but hald and udev will not work anymore
[12:39] <Arc> whats udev?
[12:39] <Arc> and hald?
[12:39] <Arc> hell i cant even get removable usb media to work
[12:39] <Arc> im so frustrated - ive spent the night is FSF/GNU email hell
[12:40] <Arc> it's gotten to the point that I finally just sent an email to RMS asking for help
[12:44] <nessmuk> I moved my hds from an AT to an ATX mobo. Do I need to reinstall Ubuntu
[12:44] <nessmuk> to have it recognize the drives and the built in items....sound card, NIC, usb?
[12:49] <Arc> hmm
[12:58] <zerok> hm.... i can read euro-signs in gaim but am not able to enter them anywhere :S
[12:58] <e-Jah> it miss one thing in ubuntu (and debian) multisync ^^
[01:00] <murtaza> i need to configure mail mairge option in open office word processor
[01:00] <e-Jah> ok, i shut up, his name is synce-multisync
[01:08] <Shimonn> dsl
[01:09] <Shimonn> pb de connection, tu viens de dire quoi ?
[01:11] <zerok> anybody else having problems with the euro sign on hoary?
[01:12] <cartman> zerok nope
[01:12] <zerok> :-(
[01:13] <zerok> cartman, sidequestion: how have you enabled the altgr button? ;-)
[01:13] <cartman> enable?
[01:13] <cartman> I just set locale to tr_TR.UTF-8
[01:13] <lifeless> daniels: around?
[01:14] <zerok> cartman, so that it works :-) by default it only was an alt for me :S
[01:17] <cartman> zerok works here
[01:21] <zerok> cartman, :-(
[01:21] <zerok> i now set the locales to de_DE utf8 euro. let's see if this works out after the next x restart *G*
[01:23] <cartman> zerok dont use @euro
[01:25] <uncola> Hallo
[01:28] <zerok> cartman, well, i didn't use it before so I thought it would be worth a try :-)
[01:28] <Arc> can anyone help me get removable media working?
[01:28] <cartman> no @euro knowns to break some apps
[01:28] <cartman> and its not needed
[01:29] <Arc> the usb flash drive isnt automounting
[01:29] <zerok> ah, ok
[01:29] <cartman> zerok dpkg-reconfigure locales
[01:29] <arktik> morning all
[01:29] <cartman> and select de_DE.UTF-8
[01:30] <zerok> arghh i also select the wrong and hit enter *g*
[01:31] <cartman> it will ask you the default anyway
[01:31] <cartman> don't worry
[01:31] <zerok> i know :-) worked with debian for about 1.5 years :-)
[01:33] <Arc> wow installing ubuntu was a real mistake.
[01:33] <Arc> one she'll have to live with :-(
[01:34] <uncola> why a mistake?
[01:34] <Arc> i could have fixed all these problems with gentoo by now - but now ive stayed up all night fixing it and it's still not working
[01:35] <Arc> because it, like mandrake and all the other easy-to-use distros, is incomplete and difficult to fix
[01:35] <Arc> i have a missing driver, which is supported under linux, but nope - it wont support it
[01:35] <Arc> or atleast if i can, nobody knows it
[01:36] <Arc> and this usb thing isnt working at all
[01:36] <nevyn> Arc: a missing supported driver?
[01:36] <davyd> Arc: what USB thing?
[01:36] <nevyn> that's odd.
[01:37] <Arc> usb removable media doesnt work. its not mounting, its not doing anything
[01:37] <Arc> nevyn: realtek wifi cards - ie, linksys wpc11 rev 4
[01:37] <Arc> it doesnt even support the sound card
[01:38] <nevyn> umm realtek wifi cards arn't supported by linux.
[01:38] <Arc> they are by realtek.
[01:38] <nevyn> 8189ish things.
[01:38] <nevyn> that's a liability.
[01:39] <Arc> they're supported, people use them, they work
[01:39] <Arc> need a 2.4 kernel, but nobody seems to know how I get that configured for ubutnu
[01:39] <HcE> you'll have to use ndiswrapper with the realtek wifi cards?
[01:39] <davyd> Arc: you won't be able to use 2.4 with ubuntu
[01:39] <nevyn> you could do that.
[01:39] <davyd> it's too dependant on 2.6 features I imagine
[01:39] <nevyn> use the windows driver with ndis wrapper.
[01:39] <Arc> no, realtek has real drivers.
[01:40] <HcE> linux 2.6 + ndiswrapper works for my mate using Ubuntu
[01:40] <Arc> HcE: it has to be automatic, ndiswrapper isnt
[01:40] <HcE> ok
[01:40] <Arc> look
[01:40] <Arc> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?Keyword=8180
[01:40] <Arc> linux. 2.4 kernel.
[01:40] <Arc> realtek 8180L
[01:41] <nevyn> windows drivers with ndis > bodgy halfassed binary kernel modules.
[01:41] <nevyn> god I hate binary drivers.
[01:41] <zerok> damn typos *g*
[01:41] <nevyn> pain. suffering.
[01:41] <Arc> but they are there.
[01:41] <nevyn> but they're halfassed and when they break you can't fix them
[01:41] <davyd> Arc: ubuntu won't support 2.4, it's just not doable
[01:41] <Arc> yes, you're right, but nobody has written free ones yet.
[01:41] <davyd> so you'll have to find another solution
[01:42] <Arc> gentoo.
[01:42] <Kamion> warty supports 2.4, just about
[01:42] <Arc> my reason for using ubuntu is it was suppost to do proper supermount on all devices
[01:42] <davyd> Kamion: as long as you don't want anything requiring HAL ?
[01:42] <Arc> it was suppost to take usb mass storage devices and do all the user stuff automatically
[01:42] <Arc> but it's not. \
[01:42] <cartman> Arc: ubuntu doesn't use supermount
[01:43] <cartman> it uses dbus+hal+Gnome frontends
[01:43] <Arc> well whatever it uses, its not running right
[01:44] <pythonist> identify tspqrlm0
[01:44] <HcE> hehe
[01:44] <cartman> uhm
[01:44] <Arc> acronimn for teaspoon queen raccoon limping mostly #0
[01:45] <Arc> ok i simply need sleep
[01:45] <Arc> this has completely taken too long and simply isnt going to be finished.
[01:46] <ACIDnet> i have a windows printed shared, how do i use it under linux??
[01:47] <Kamion> davyd: sure
[01:47] <ACIDnet> and how can i login to a windows share under a different username/password without mounting it???
[01:48] <Pozac> ACIDnet, go to Network -> Add Network Server - you can choose username/domain/pw there
[01:56] <ACIDnet> can only see connect to server and doesnt give pwd option
[01:57] <Pozac> hmm
[01:59] <davyd> ACIDnet: the password should be asked for when it's decided it's required
[01:59] <davyd> ACIDnet: there are lots of ways to auth to a windows share
[01:59] <davyd> and relatively few of them require a password
[02:00] <Pozac> What if guest is allowed and he wants to use a user?
[02:01] <lkerscher> has someone installed the epson stylus cx3200 on ubuntu?
[02:02] <thoreauputic> Happy New Year from Australia
[02:02] <davyd> thoreauputic: your part perhapst ;)
[02:02] <thoreauputic> Sat Jan  1 00:02:54 EST 2005
[02:02] <Pozac> Happy New Year, Australia :)
[02:03] <davyd> Fri Dec 31 21:03:03 WST 2004
[02:03] <nevyn> hrm
[02:03] <nevyn> happy new year all
[02:03] <darren> Can anyone help with a firefox/security/ssl problem?
[02:04] <Pozac> darren, sure :)
[02:04] <darren> I can't access Gmail and a few other sites because it says that SSL is disabled
[02:05] <darren> I've checked firefox settings and it has SSL ticked
[02:05] <darren> Do you want the screenshot with the exact message?
[02:06] <Pozac> darren, do you have SSL 2.0, SSl 3.0 and TLS 1.0 enabled?
[02:06] <darren> I think so. I did a fresh install of Ubuntu this morning
[02:06] <darren> It's always worked before
[02:06] <Pozac> hmm
[02:06] <Pozac> odd
[02:09] <Devmathan> Hola
[02:10] <Pozac> darren, I don't get it. It really should work...
[02:10] <Pozac> hi Devmathan
[02:11] <darren> The message says something about the user profile and check read.write access
[02:11] <Pozac> did you wipe your home directory?
[02:12] <Pozac> if you didn't, guess you'll need to change ownership to your new user or something
[02:12] <ACIDnet> smb://administrator@\\windows\ <- is that night??
[02:12] <Pozac> ACIDnet, uses slashes '/'
[02:13] <Pozac> ACIDnet, smb://administrator@//windows/
[02:13] <Pozac> not sure that the @ thing works tho
[02:14] <da_bon_bon> anir: hiya. go on
[02:14] <anir> hey guys
[02:14] <anir> how are you all
[02:14] <anir> how do i make a shortcut to firefox in my applications bar??
[02:14] <Pozac> Right click the shortcut in applications -> Add to panel
[02:15] <anir> pozac : i tried that but there is  no firefox option
[02:16] <Pozac> anir, hmm deleted it?
[02:16] <da_bon_bon> Pozac: he installed 1.0 after removing 0.93
[02:16] <anir> pozac: delete what?
[02:16] <Pozac> wait
[02:16] <Pozac> didn't I tell you to use backports?
[02:16] <anir> nope
[02:16] <Pozac> hmm
[02:17] <da_bon_bon> Pozac: u told me not anir :)
[02:18] <Pozac> anir, if you installed firefox through http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BreakMyUbuntu , it will add its own shortcut
[02:18] <anir> i have downloaded from mozilla.com
[02:18] <Pozac> da_bon_bon, and you didn't tell him? :~(
[02:18] <Pozac> anir, guess either that or right click panel, add shortcut and fill in the values
[02:19] <da_bon_bon> Pozac: he asked me today and i knew ::
[02:19] <da_bon_bon> Pozac: i am FC3 and hence cant help him :(
[02:19] <Pozac> hmm
[02:21] <anir> where i will get blackdown-j2re1.4?? in the synaptic there is blackdown-j2re1.4.debian but when i try to install it i says blackdown-j2re1.4 is needed
[02:22] <anir> i need to install j2re1.4
[02:22] <da_bon_bon> anir: why not get java 1.5.0 ?
[02:22] <Pozac> anir, use the Cerkinfo repository from http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BreakMyUbuntu
[02:23] <anir> what is the distribution and section??
[02:23] <ogra> anir: why dont you take the j2re1.5 ? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java
[02:23] <anir> da_bon_bon: where i will get it??
[02:24] <Pozac> ehm
[02:24] <Pozac> why 1.5?
[02:24] <ogra> anir: in the wiki there is a repo with ubuntu java packages for 1.5
[02:24] <ogra> anir: 1.4 as well if you urgently want it
[02:24] <da_bon_bon> anir: ^^^ and also check out ubuntuguide.org
[02:26] <ogra> anir: for both versions a jre and jdk as you need.....(installs the plugin automatically and sets up your environment for you)
[02:26] <da_bon_bon> anir: if u aint a programmer get jre else get jdk
[02:27] <ogra> da_bon_bon: some progs require jdk....(blame the authors)
[02:27] <anir> i need to add repository???
[02:27] <ogra> anir: its the easiest way...
[02:27] <anir> yea i work in c and C++ as well as Visual
[02:27] <ogra> anir: its described in the wiki page
[02:29] <da_bon_bon> anir: no visual in linux ::
[02:30] <anir> da-bon_bon:  i know
[02:30] <anir> da_bon_bon: i have already downloaded java from java.com
[02:31] <da_bon_bon> anir: do u type out everyones nick names ?
[02:31] <anir> yes
[02:32] <da_bon_bon> anir: type the first 3 - 4 letter of the nick and press tab
[02:32] <anir> da_bon_bon cool
[02:33] <da_bon_bon> isnt it
[02:33] <da_bon_bon> u use xchat ?
[02:34] <anir> da_bon_bon, yes i am using xchat
[02:35] <da_bon_bon> Pozac: why ctcp ing me ?
[02:35] <Pozac> da_bon_bon, there's a 2.4.1 out nowadays
[02:35] <Pozac> da_bon_bon, try /ctcp Pozac version
[02:36] <Saltacharcos> buenas... me se lee?
[02:36] <da_bon_bon> Pozac: i have limited downloads - only 100mb per month - so i refrain from updating :)
[02:37] <anir> okay what happened to my firefox issue?? :)
[02:37] <Pozac> da_bon_bon, 100mb is NOT much
[02:38] <da_bon_bon> Pozac: 100 mb is uselles - i usually do 150 mb per day :)
[02:38] <da_bon_bon> guys help anir
[02:38] <Pozac> 100mb is what I IRC per month
[02:38] <Pozac> anir, make the link yourself or install from the backports from the link I pasted
[02:39] <anir> how much MB do u use per month Pozac
[02:39] <Pozac> hehe
[02:39] <Pozac> My ISP doesn't count
[02:39] <Pozac> neither do I
[02:39] <anir> oh cool
[02:39] <anir> i am looking for a bettrr isp
[02:40] <da_bon_bon> Pozac: gimme some of ur connectivity ??
[02:40] <da_bon_bon> :)
[02:41] <netmonk> is there a list of some pcmcia cards that work with Ubuntu?
[02:41] <netmonk> ane where is it? ;)
[02:41] <da_bon_bon> hey, is firfox better opr opera ?
[02:42] <Pozac> da_bon_bon, Not untill I get gigabit :)
[02:42] <anir> guys the file j2re1.4.2_05 is there in my system .. does it mean java is installed in my system??
[02:43] <da_bon_bon> anir: no
[02:43] <etorix> no
[02:45] <anir> da_bon_bon, what that file is??
[02:45] <namaste> hi, is there a tool to burn cds installed per default?
[02:45] <da_bon_bon> anir: tell me the extension
[02:45] <Pozac> namaste, yeah, open up a File manager window, and select CD Burner from the Places menu
[02:46] <anir> in that folder lots of files are there da_bon_bon
[02:46] <da_bon_bon> ok
[02:46] <da_bon_bon> is there a README file ?
[02:46] <da_bon_bon> hey guys, tell me what the hell is this - http://www.firefoxie.net/makeyourownsoftware.html
[02:47] <anir> yes da_bon_bon
[02:47] <da_bon_bon> anir: read it. it has installation instructions
[02:48] <namaste> Pozac, awesome, thanks!
[02:48] <Pozac> da_bon_bon, that is one mighty long webpage
[02:48] <anir> da_bon_bon, its nothing but some marketing
[02:49] <da_bon_bon> namaste: hi. i will bet u r a indian
[02:49] <da_bon_bon> Pozac: lol :D
[02:49] <namaste> da_bon_bon, nope, german :)
[02:49] <anir> da_bon_bon, : bad luck:)
[02:50] <da_bon_bon> namaste: oh, ur nick is indian so :)
[02:50] <namaste> da_bon_bon, yeah it is
[02:50] <etorix> anir .. installing java on a debian-type system isnt straightforward .. read up: youve been told where to get jave from for ubuntu
[02:50] <anir> i cant write sw in 30 mins.. it takes atleast 30 hrs..
[02:50] <Pozac> da_bon_bon, is da_bon_bon indian? :)
[02:50] <da_bon_bon> Pozac: i am.
[02:51] <anir> yes i am  doing that etorix
[02:51] <Pozac> da_bon_bon, I meant the nick :)
[02:51] <namaste> da_bon_bon, oh.. the actual owner of this nick just told me that it's nepali and means "hello" or something
[02:51] <anir> namaste, it is also indian
[02:51] <Pozac> actually, it's Indian for 'cunt'
[02:51] <da_bon_bon> namaste: yes, namaste means hello
[02:51] <Pozac> hehe
[02:51] <namaste> lol
[02:51] <da_bon_bon> Pozac: whats indian for cunt ?
[02:51] <Pozac> da_bon_bon, my bad humour :)
[02:52] <anir> da_bon_bon, he is telling that namaste meands cunt
[02:52] <da_bon_bon> Pozac: indian for cunt is "chut"
[02:52] <Pozac> ;)
[02:53] <anir> da_bon_bon, : what is goin on..lol
[02:53] <da_bon_bon> ya !!
[02:54] <da_bon_bon> Pozac: u want more words, pm me :D joking, dont let my mom hear that her 16 yr old boy is teaching ppl bad words, when he himself is not supposed to know them
[02:54] <Pozac> lol :)
[02:54] <da_bon_bon> :)
[02:56] <anir> how will i open the C compiler?? is C and C++ compilers same??
[02:56] <da_bon_bon> anir: gcc
[02:56] <namaste> gcc does both, c and c++
[02:56] <da_bon_bon> yes
[02:57] <reinhard> hi all
[02:57] <anir> says no input file.. means i have to download?? da_bon_bon
[02:57] <sjoerd> note that gcc is botht he name of the compiler collection and the C compiler though :)
[02:57] <Pozac> anir, gcc is just a compiler - nothing visual
[02:57] <anir> oh..
[02:57] <namaste> you may read the manpage before .. the syntax is gcc [parameters]  <input-file>, which is normally a .c or c++ file
[02:57] <Pozac> anir, gcc -o file file.c
[02:57] <namaste> right
[02:58] <reinhard> does anybody here use jigit to download the cd images?
[02:58] <namaste> -o means output file
[02:58] <da_bon_bon> anir: gcc myproggie.c -o thenameuwantinexe
[02:58] <anir> so where i will type my codes?? Pozac
[02:58] <Pozac> anir, use a program like anjuta
[02:58] <anir> anjuta??
[02:58] <da_bon_bon> kdevelop rocks
[02:58] <Pozac> or vi
[02:58] <namaste> anir, try vim, emacs or even mcedit.
[02:58] <Pozac> og emacs
[02:58] <Pozac> hehe
[02:59] <anir> oh so many
[02:59] <namaste> it always takes some time until you've found your favourite editor
[02:59] <namaste> doesn't mean you have to use all of them of course.
[03:00] <Pozac> anir, do you want something graphical or something that works in text mode?
[03:00] <anir> hee hee i dont have the wish to try all of them
[03:01] <huttan> When I try to start eog I it crashes and gives me this error:   ** (eog:7360): CRITICAL **: file pango-color.c: line 952 (pango_color_parse): assertion `spec != NULL' failed
[03:01] <anir> is there anything that supports both Pozac
[03:01] <huttan> Anyone has an idea?
[03:01] <etorix> vim, emacs or even mcedit.  are editors .. anjuta is a IDE
[03:01] <namaste> but i guess anjuta has an editor aswell
[03:01] <nevyn> scite
[03:02] <sjoerd> etorix: calling emacs (or even vim) an editor is quite an understatement..
[03:02] <namaste> doesn't it?
[03:02] <Pozac> anir, emacs supports *everything*
[03:02] <namaste> rofl
[03:02] <etorix> heh
[03:02] <nevyn> is nice if you're a windows escapee.
[03:02] <etorix> emacs is like an OS on its own
[03:02] <nevyn> yep.
[03:02] <Pozac> I'm off to celebrate new years
[03:02] <etorix> it even has a psychiatrist
[03:02] <namaste> have fun Pozac
[03:02] <Pozac> Happy New Years, all
[03:02] <Pozac> you too namaste :)
[03:03] <nevyn> Pozac: it's 1am on the 1st so. it's sortof winding down.
[03:03] <nevyn> ;)
[03:03] <sjoerd> gedit works fine too for simple coding btw
[03:03] <anir> hey guys
[03:03] <anir> HAPPY NEW YEAR
[03:03] <Pozac> nevyn, I've still got 9 hours before the 1st
[03:03] <namaste> nevyn, umm.. it's new years eve and you're sitting in front of your pc?
[03:03] <nevyn> namaste: yeah quiet nite I went out earlier.
[03:04] <Pozac> It's also summer there
[03:04] <anir> where are you from nevyn
[03:04] <nevyn> australia.
[03:04] <nevyn> it was also stinking hot.
[03:04] <anir> thats why..
[03:04] <nevyn> 30+ degree day
[03:04] <namaste> it's kinda raining here
[03:04] <nevyn> crowding with a million people into the CBD didn't sound like fun
[03:04] <anir> its a nice cold evening here in Bangalore
[03:04] <Pozac> Opposite-land, as Homer likes to call it.
[03:05] <anir> Pozac, u r from US??
[03:05] <Pozac> anir, Denmark
[03:05] <da_bon_bon> Pozac: cool
[03:05] <anir> Pozac, : wow thats a beautiful land
[03:06] <Pozac> anir, thanks :)
[03:06] <anir> i like the beautiful girls of denmark ...lol Pozac
[03:06] <anir> u r welcome
[03:06] <Pozac> Katja Kean perhaps? :)
[03:06] <da_bon_bon> Pozac: whose that ?
[03:06] <Buzzz> hmm. if I want to share files with my mac or linux desktop should I use nfs or samba?
[03:06] <nevyn> umm
[03:07] <Pozac> da_bon_bon, One of our only international female porn stars :)
[03:07] <da_bon_bon> Pozac: seen kareena kapoor ?
[03:07] <Pozac> and she has quit the business :(
[03:07] <Pozac> da_bon_bon, no? should I?
[03:08] <da_bon_bon> she is damn sexy
[03:08] <anir> da_bon_bon,  u need a wallpaper of kareena??
[03:08] <da_bon_bon> anir: yes. i have some tho.
[03:08] <Pozac> Very nice
[03:08] <anir> i guess more than i can give u ..lol da_bon_bon
[03:09] <da_bon_bon> anir: give
[03:09] <lkerscher> hmkay
[03:09] <da_bon_bon> Pozac: http://www.santabanta.com/wallpapers/category.asp?catname=kareena%20kapoor
[03:09] <anir> i guess u have more collection than i can give u ..lol da_bon_bon
[03:09] <lkerscher> i can't install my printer
[03:09] <lkerscher> its e epson stylus cx3200
[03:10] <da_bon_bon> anir: give anyway
[03:10] <anir> okay
[03:10] <Smeven> i am trying to get gdm fixed
[03:10] <Smeven> it doesnt start up correctly
[03:11] <da_bon_bon> anir: email me .
[03:11] <Smeven> it complains of display 0 already being used
[03:11] <Pozac> da_bon_bon, Very nice :) I'm going to keep my ubuntu calendar, though :)
[03:11] <wezzer-> Smeven: I had exactly same problem!
[03:11] <adroit> Hello there
[03:11] <Smeven> so i have to stop gdm, kill x and just do startx from the command prompt
[03:11] <Smeven> wezzer-: what is the fix?
[03:11] <da_bon_bon> Pozac: meaning? pardon, i  didnt get the joke
[03:11] <adroit> somebody have a 3dfx video card with ubuntu???
[03:11] <wezzer-> Smeven: unfoturnately I didn't get it solved and had to reinstall whole ubuntu... :(
[03:11] <wezzer-> but uninstalling GDM helps
[03:11] <Smeven> if i reinstall i am putting gentoo on :)
[03:12] <da_bon_bon> bye guys
[03:12] <wezzer-> after uninstalling gdm it starts with text login and you have to type startx
[03:12] <adroit> 3dfx????
[03:13] <Smeven> brb
[03:13] <adroit> nobody have a 3dfx??
[03:15] <Varg> how come Ubuntu only starts esd every once in a while?
[03:16] <adroit> varg: Did you read the post in the ubuntuforums??
[03:17] <Varg> *the* post? I googled, but didn't come across anything else but "Ubuntu uses esound"
[03:17] <adroit> varg: www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:18] <adroit> varg: then you go to faq&howto section
[03:18] <Smeven> ack
[03:18] <Smeven> thing is broken  to pieces
[03:21] <Varg> adroit: the multimedia howto doesn't answer my question
[03:21] <Varg> adroit: as it is, rhythmbox doesn't even beep :)
[03:22] <Varg> adroit: and that is supposedly due to no esd running in my session
[03:23] <lemsx1> Varg, for rhythmbox you need the proper gstreamer* packages installed
[03:23] <lemsx1> Varg, and then choose from Media Selector under the Advanced preferences
[03:24] <lemsx1> Varg, close rhythmbox and reopen after choosing the right media out
[03:25] <Varg> lemsx1, advanced preferences? Where do I find these? Gnome does things a little ... um... differently :)
[03:27] <adroit> varg: search the post tittle hear multiple sounds
[03:28] <Varg> sheesh ... wasn't Ubuntu supposed to work a bit more out of the box than Debian experimental? :-)) Anyway, thanks for the hint
[03:29] <lemsx1> Varg, Applications->Desktop Preferences->Advanced
[03:29] <lemsx1> Varg, to install all the gstreamer stuff you need: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-*
[03:30] <lemsx1> Varg, after that you will have a nice set of gstreamer plugins and sink's
[03:31] <Varg> lemsx1, I have a menu called "Computer" with "Desktop Preferences" and no "Advanced" or for that matter its german equivalent
[03:31] <Varg> can I just edit the gconf database?
[03:31] <lemsx1> Varg, yes you can
[03:31] <lemsx1> Varg, let me find you the key
[03:32] <lemsx1> Varg, /system/gstreamer/0.8/default
[03:33] <lemsx1> Varg, audiosink -> esdsink  ... audiosrc -> esdmon ... videosink-> xvimagesink ... videosrc-> v4lsrc ... visualization->goom
[03:33] <Varg> lemsx1, ok, so I have the option to a) use alsasink or b) try to get esd to start automatically each session, right?
[03:33] <lemsx1> Varg, those are my settings
[03:33] <lemsx1> Varg, pretty much. but, i'd just get esd to start automatically and set all my apps to use esd
[03:33] <lemsx1> Varg, then set the esd daemon to kill itself after 3 seconds of no use ;-)
[03:34] <Varg> ok, how do I accomplish that? Esd not running was my problem in the first place ...
[03:34] <lemsx1> Varg, $> cat /etc/esound/esd.conf
[03:34] <lemsx1> [esd]
[03:34] <lemsx1> auto_spawn=0
[03:34] <lemsx1> spawn_options=-terminate -nobeeps -as 3
[03:34] <lemsx1> spawn_wait_ms=100
[03:34] <lemsx1> # default options are used in spawned and non-spawned mode
[03:34] <lemsx1> default_options=
[03:34] <lemsx1> Varg, from the command line type: esd
[03:35] <lemsx1> Varg, if that works, then go to the Sound control panel (wherever it is, under preferences) and make sure that Start Sound ... is set
[03:35] <Varg> why auto_spawn=0 ? Mine is set to 1 by default ...
[03:35] <lemsx1> Varg, that's your problem
[03:35] <lemsx1> Varg, having that stuff to auto causes problems
[03:36] <Varg> ahh, ok! known issue or should a bug be filed?
[03:36] <lemsx1> Varg, known "feature"
[03:37] <Varg> ok, as long as it's known ... ;-)) Thanks for your help!
[03:37] <lemsx1> Varg, that's the spirit
[03:38] <Buzzz> hmm how do I aoutomount a smb share in ubuntu?
[03:38] <Buzzz> automount
[03:39] <lemsx1> Buzzz, install autofs
[03:39] <lemsx1> Buzzz, write a /etc/auto.filename file for you
[03:39] <lemsx1> Buzzz, add a line in /etc/auto.master to get things from that new file
[03:39] <lemsx1> Buzzz, and restarter autofs
[03:39] <lemsx1> Buzzz, the line should read (use cifs and not smbfs):
[03:39] <nad> hi, how do i get mplayer ?
[03:39] <Buzzz> lemsx1, oki..thanks should lookup autofs then
[03:40] <Buzzz> nad, ftp.nerim.net
[03:40] <lemsx1> Buzzz, sharename -fstype=cifs,credentials=/home/username/.credentials.txt,rw server:/sharename
[03:41] <MyKe3> hello i have a problem to connect my Ubuntu to the insternet
[03:41] <lemsx1> Buzzz, ah, not server:/share but ://server/share
[03:41] <lemsx1> Buzzz, sorry
[03:41] <nad> what about the kernel-headers package ?? whgy cant i get kernel-headers-2.6.9 ??
[03:41] <nad> buzz .. thnx
[03:42] <lemsx1> nad, get the source from kernel.org and use make-kpkg to roll your own 2.6.10 kernel. simple stuff to setup. install gcc and ccache
[03:42] <MyKe3> i  checked my netconfigurtion and evry thingy looks fine i don't know y itz not connection ...
[03:42] <Buzzz> lemsx1, hmm.. autofs doesn't show up in synaptic..
[03:43] <lemsx1> nad, i usually compile new kernels and put it in my debian-embelisher project: http://www.latinomixed.com/downloads/debian-embelisher check the "deb" directory
[03:43] <nad> lemsx1, thnx
[03:43] <MyKe3> anouther thingy i got dissconnected when i tryed to insert the gatway to the network prop. ( i m connecting to ADSK though router )
[03:43] <lemsx1> Buzzz, weird...
[03:44] <Buzzz> lemsx1, could it be missing from hoary?
[03:45] <lemsx1> Buzzz, try browsing the rep with a regular browser (or use apt-cache from the command line: apt-cache search autofs)
[03:45] <lemsx1> Buzzz, hoary is the new one right? get autofs from the old package (or directly from debian)
[03:45] <lemsx1> Buzzz, it should be the same stuff
[03:46] <MyKe3> =\
[03:46] <Buzzz> lemsx1, have to try that..
[03:47] <lemsx1> MyKe3, you are talking about ADSL with pppoe (rp-pppoe)?
[03:47] <Varg> lemsx1, next problem: esd runs now, rhythmbox plays but the sound sucksssssssssssssssssssss
[03:47] <lemsx1> Buzzz, ubuntu is a nice way to get Debian installed... once Debian is in place, go to Sarge rep and never install gnome-* packages :-)
[03:47] <lemsx1> Varg, you have dma problems
[03:48] <MyKe3> lemsx1 no i m connecting to ADSL though router
[03:48] <lemsx1> Varg, make sure that udma is properly set, for your hard drives and everything that uses it
[03:48] <lemsx1> MyKe3, then the router (linksys?) connects to an ADSL modem for you and you connect to the router?
[03:48] <Varg> ok, thanks for the hint!
[03:49] <MyKe3> lemsx1 thats right =)
[03:49] <lemsx1> MyKe3, if that's the case, then you don't need to worry about the ADSL stuff here, all your problems are from before the router
[03:49] <MyKe3> lemsx1 i tryed to make a new connction but i don't have add connection on the network window
[03:50] <lemsx1> MyKe3, or the router and the way the modem (ADSL) accepts MTU settings... lowering the mtu to 1452 usually helps with adsl from verizon
[03:50] <MyKe3> lemsx1 yeah i know that
[03:50] <lemsx1> MyKe3, from you to the router, the mtu doesn't matter, it should stay at 1500, but from the router to your adsl provider, usually that matters
[03:51] <MyKe3> lemsx1 no the router works just fine ... it the connetion to the router thats fXcked up
[03:51] <lemsx1> MyKe3, unless you use a good ISP of course :-D
[03:51] <lemsx1> MyKe3, what do you mean by "f- up"? DHCP works and you can ping the router?
[03:52] <MyKe3> i don't use dhcp but i can ping the router
[03:52] <lemsx1> MyKe3, can you ping pass the router? like pinging Google.com (ip: <IP_ADDRESS>)
[03:52] <MyKe3> no
[03:52] <MyKe3> i can't
[03:53] <lemsx1> MyKe3, if you can ping the router but not pass the router, then your mtu might need to be set from the router to the ADSL modem (WAN)
[03:53] <lemsx1> MyKe3, lower that value to 1452
[03:53] <MyKe3> i think that makeing a new connction could solve the problem i just dont' know how to make one...
[03:54] <MyKe3> i m useing hoary ... if it help...
[03:54] <lemsx1> MyKe3, to connect from the router to ADSL? if it's properly setup, simply turning off the aDSL modem (for 2 full minutes) and unplugging your router for 3 or so minute, will properly reset the connection
[03:54] <lemsx1> MyKe3, you need to try using a different computer to make sure that it's not your computer (like the network card and drivers) that is messed up
[03:55] <lemsx1> MyKe3, test it with a Mac (they always work fine)
[03:55] <lemsx1> MyKe3, :-)
[03:55] <MyKe3> no the router wworks just fine
[03:55] <MyKe3> i now talking from anouther OS from the same connction
[03:55] <MyKe3> from the same machine
[03:56] <lemsx1> MyKe3, or use a good network card: 3com, linksys (not smc, realtek or other crappy ones, like those embeded in your mobo)
[03:56] <MyKe3> i dont' have problems with my networkcard
[03:56] <lemsx1> MyKe3, it could be a hardware issue in that machine, you need to use a different one or do the resetting of the connection as i said before
[03:56] <lemsx1> MyKe3, how do you know that for sure?
[03:56] <MyKe3> i m telling ya its the connction setup
[03:57] <sobralense> if I wanna upgrade/dist-upgrade warty to hoary ... What repository list I need?
[03:57] <MyKe3> i m useing the same machien with windows and its work
[03:57] <sobralense> just changing the name , will work?
[03:57] <lemsx1> MyKe3, I've seen weird issues with network cards that allow flashable MAC addresses to happen. the mac will show as 00:00:00... for NO reason
[03:57] <MyKe3> on my mandrake it works as well ( they r all on the same machine this one)
[03:58] <lemsx1> MyKe3, ah, that's a different story then... try using: netstat -nr
[03:58] <lemsx1> MyKe3, see if your route table is correct
[03:59] <MyKe3> how can i make a new connection on ubuntu ?
[03:59] <lemsx1> MyKe3, then try using mii-tool and see if your ethernet is setup correctly
[03:59] <MyKe3> lemsx1 done it the router works fine
[03:59] <lemsx1> MyKe3, you don't need to "make a connection"
[03:59] <MyKe3> i can't find a problem with it
[03:59] <lemsx1> MyKe3, if you give an IP in /etc/networking/interfaces
[04:00] <lemsx1> MyKe3, and gateway IP is the right thing... plus network, netmask and broadcast
[04:00] <lemsx1> MyKe3, Gnome has a nice front-end for those settings so you don't have to do it by hand
[04:00] <MyKe3> okay i will try to set it up
[04:00] <lemsx1> MyKe3, install gnome-system-tools
[04:00] <lemsx1> MyKe3, the command is: sudo network-admin
[04:01] <MyKe3> i can't install it cuse i dont have connction to the ner
[04:01] <MyKe3> net/*
[04:01] <lemsx1> MyKe3, you don't have CD's?
[04:01] <MyKe3> lemsx1 yeah i have sudo network-admin and i didn't had any option to configure my gatway
[04:02] <miausX> hi! =)
[04:02] <MyKe3> allso evry time i tryed to change some thingy there it didn't saved it
[04:02] <MyKe3> miausX hello =)
[04:02] <miausX> hello MyKe3! merry xmas! :D
[04:03] <Verr> Hi all ubuntu mates :)
[04:04] <MyKe3> miausX thanks =) i m a Jew
[04:04] <Verr> Im need of help :( anyone can help?
[04:05] <miausX> Verr: tell me :)
[04:05] <Verr> Okay thx :)
[04:05] <Verr> So as usual i have problems with booting xp after ubuntu install
[04:05] <miausX> hum
[04:05] <Guide> Hello, I am new with ubuntu and I have a small problem, could anyone help
[04:06] <Verr> It shows this message when i choose xp for OS
[04:06] <miausX> Guide: yes, what's the problem?
[04:06] <Guide> How do I setup PCI ADSL modem?
[04:06] <miausX> ouch, no idea Guide ... I'm with a cable modem (ethernet)
[04:07] <miausX> Verr: what is the error?
[04:07] <Verr> "windows could not start because of a computer disk hardware configuration problem. Could not read from the selected boot disk. Please Check windows documentation about hardware disk configuration and your hardware reference manuals for additional information."
[04:07] <Verr> Phew ;)
[04:08] <Verr> Mate said that it could be mbr prob.
[04:08] <Verr> no idea what is it :D
[04:08] <miausX> Verr: oh oh... :(
[04:09] <scizzo> happy new year to all ubuntu and Debian users
[04:09] <miausX> same to you scizzo ;)
[04:10] <Josip> same ;-)
[04:10] <scizzo> ;)
[04:10] <FallenHitokiri> how can I tell my kernel not to use a framebuffer for my ttys? is there a bootoption?
[04:11] <miausX> yep FallenHitokiri
[04:12] <FallenHitokiri> miausX: in which documentation can I find it?
[04:12] <opi> D'oh
[04:12] <miausX> FallenHitokiri: take a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst, the vga= option :)
[04:12] <opi> anyone can tell me why Ubuntu didn't detect my ESS audio card?
[04:13] <opi> now I'm audioless
[04:13] <opi> even if I modprobe snd-maestro3
[04:14] <FallenHitokiri> miausX: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash          thats my kernel I builded. but when I try to boot the screen is black an nothings happens. I got told to deactivate the FB. but if i set vga=791 or sth. i would tell grub to use the FB, wouldn't i?
[04:16] <miausX> FallenHitokiri: are you sure that your kernel conf is correct?
[04:16] <dseomn> I wiped /etc by doing "rsync -uva --delete /etc/php4/ remote-ubuntu:/etc/" instead of "rsync -uva --delete /etc/php4/ remote-ubuntu:/etc/php4/". What I want to know is, is there any way to recover other than reinstalling (/home has it's own partition, so that should be ok)?
[04:16] <FallenHitokiri> miausX: i think so. i did make oldconfig and just added the speedstep to the kernel.
[04:17] <ogra> FallenHitokiri: vga=normal
[04:17] <miausX> FallenHitokiri: I don't have any ubuntu installed right now, maybe you need a initrd? with vga=791 you are telling grub to use fb at 1024x768@16bit
[04:18] <FallenHitokiri> hm... i'll try vga=normal and vga=791.... be right back
[04:18] <WeedVender> Hello
[04:19] <WeedVender> My mouse goes crazy from time to time...
[04:19] <verr3> m/q miausX
[04:19] <miausX> hi verr3 :)
[04:19] <verr3> :D
[04:20] <WeedVender> any suggestions?
[04:20] <miausX> WeedVender: no idea, maybe it's missconfigured in /etc/X11/XF86Config?
[04:20] <WeedVender> It starts clicking everything once in a while and its really annoying.
[04:20] <WeedVender> how would I configure that?
[04:21] <verr3> WeedVender lol :D
[04:21] <WeedVender> ...
[04:22] <miausX> WeedVender: hum, what kind of mouse have you?
[04:22] <miausX> I have an logitech, ps2 mouse with wheel
[04:23] <miausX> it works fine with /dev/psaux and imPS/2
[04:23] <FallenHitokiri> ogra , miausX: changing vga=$foo didn't help
[04:23] <miausX> :(
[04:24] <WeedVender> Logitec
[04:24] <FallenHitokiri> the problem why i try to build another kernel is: i use an hp / comapq nx7000 notebook with centrino. but i only can use it 2 hourse without powerconnection. with windows it runs nearly 5...
[04:24] <ogra> WeedVender: dont edit it manually, take: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[04:24] <verr3> haha
[04:24] <WeedVender> forgot the model #
[04:24] <verr3> Mouse gone mad
[04:24] <verr3> It likes cheesy WINDOWS :D
[04:24] <verr3> Its full of cheese holes :D
[04:24] <verr3> miausX check private.
[04:24] <verr3> Looks like you flood defender blocked me :D
[04:24] <verr3> "no text to send"
[04:24] <verr3> MIAUSX! :D
[04:25] <WeedVender> yeah, it doesn't do it in Windows
[04:25] <miausX> verr3: no no, I receive it :)
[04:25] <bulio> I need help setting up my internet in ubuntu live
[04:25] <verr3> So.?
[04:25] <bulio> I have dsl pppoe authentication
[04:25] <bulio> external modem
[04:25] <verr3> bulio
[04:25] <bulio> yes?
[04:25] <miausX> verr3: your menu.lst looks fine :(
[04:26] <verr3> just choose correct answers and TADA!
[04:26] <opi> so
[04:26] <verr3> miaus i think that my partitions have broken my wind -.-
[04:26] <bulio> ^^?
[04:26] <ogra> FallenHitokiri: speedstep is also available in ubuntus default kernel
[04:26] <verr3> Win :/
[04:26] <verr3> Back to irssi
[04:26] <miausX> verr3: I can't understand why you can boot into winXP... is it installed before ubuntu?
[04:26] <FallenHitokiri> ogra: but why is the lifetime 3 hours shorter?
[04:27] <Verr> miausx it is
[04:27] <FallenHitokiri> i wanted to try 2.6.10 because someone mentioned that the support would be better
[04:27] <WeedVender> 32 MB is 32,000 KB?
[04:27] <ogra> FallenHitokiri: dunno, but did you check if its running properly, before you took the effort to build a new kernel ?
[04:27] <miausX> Verr: sorry, no idea :(
[04:27] <bulio> so anyone able to help me with setting up ubuntu live internet?
[04:27] <Verr> weedwender yeah
[04:27] <WeedVender> tty
[04:27] <Verr> miausX np my friend is pr0 ;)
[04:28] <miausX> :D
[04:28] <FallenHitokiri> ogra: i tryed cpudyn, but it always tells me: not active or sth. like that. laptop_mode start also didn't change the problem
[04:28] <FallenHitokiri> i have no idea how to fix this
[04:28] <bulio> anyone?
[04:29] <ogra> FallenHitokiri: were all the speedstep modules loaded ?
[04:29] <miausX> hum, brb
[04:30] <FallenHitokiri> ogra: which modules are important?
[04:30] <ogra> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/CPUFreqModuleLoading/
[04:30] <ogra> FallenHitokiri ^^^
[04:31] <WeedVender> Ive got a question
[04:31] <WeedVender> Ive got one of those compaq keyboards with the volume buttons.
[04:31] <miausX> Verr: please, try to send me a file now... I think it works :)
[04:32] <WeedVender> Im at the xserver setup and im wondering if I should type Pc104 or pc122
[04:32] <sirfred> Is the flash player plugin working for you on Hoary?
[04:32] <sirfred> Mine is crashing every time I try to open a page with flash media in.
[04:32] <WeedVender> ?
[04:32] <FallenHitokiri> ogra: nice... the script to check what I need doesn't work *G*
[04:33] <miausX> ops, telephon
[04:33] <VirtualDarKness> sirfred, how did you installed it? deb package or with firefox plugin finder? (or what is called!)
[04:33] <sirfred> VirtualDarKness: Humm, I'm not sure. Perhaps with the plugin finder.
[04:34] <VirtualDarKness> in ff 1.0 right?
[04:34] <sirfred> VirtualDarKness: Yes.
[04:34] <VirtualDarKness> sirfred, does it crash on each site that has flash or just in one?
[04:34] <FallenHitokiri> I cannot load speedstep-centrino modprobe: file not found insmod: device busy
[04:34] <ogra> FallenHitokiri: how do you run it ?
[04:34] <sirfred> VirtualDarKness: Every site I've tested.
[04:34] <sirfred> VirtualDarKness: A lot of time ago, I had a similar problem on debian.
[04:35] <ogra> FallenHitokiri: did you make it executable or run it with /bin/sh ?
[04:35] <sirfred> VirtualDarKness: It was related with the sound output of the plugin, or something so.
[04:35] <FallenHitokiri> ogra: yes
[04:35] <ogra> FallenHitokiri: try with sudo
[04:35] <FallenHitokiri> i did
[04:35] <VirtualDarKness> sirfred, hold on I have to reboot now, brb.
[04:35] <FallenHitokiri> ogra: ./cpufreq-detect.sh: line 142: syntax error: unexpected end of file
[04:35] <codecaine> speedstep loads for me no problems
[04:36] <codecaine> running hoary though
[04:37] <FallenHitokiri> thats the error http://rafb.net/paste/results/jEzeaS70.html
[04:38] <FallenHitokiri> codecaine: would you please send me you sources.list? i would try to upgrade to hoary.... i want a stable workstation but i don't want someone with only half the features...
[04:38] <ogra> FallenHitokiri: lsmod|grep speedstep ?
[04:38] <codecaine> sure
[04:38] <ogra> FallenHitokiri: dont take hoary if you mean what you wrote above
[04:38] <FallenHitokiri> ogra: not loaded
[04:38] <Verr> :D
[04:38] <codecaine> you have to remove fam and portmap also
[04:38] <Verr> Windows rocks :D
[04:38] <codecaine> when u upgrade
[04:39] <ogra> FallenHitokiri: modprobe speedstep-centrin
[04:39] <ogra> FallenHitokiri: modprobe speedstep-centrino
[04:39] <FallenHitokiri> ... hm... if hoary isn't stable enough to work with it the upgrade has no use
[04:39] <ogra> FallenHitokiri: without extension
[04:39] <WeedVender> what does that command do?
[04:39] <FallenHitokiri> ogra: FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_centrino (/lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-3-386/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko): Device or resource busy
[04:39] <WeedVender> The speedstep?
[04:39] <sirfred> Humm, is there any way to watch divx files with totem-gstreamer?
[04:39] <sirfred> Any gstreamer plugin I'm missing?
[04:40] <ogra> FallenHitokiri: if you can live with frequent breakage and want to help testing hoary is ok....
[04:40] <FallenHitokiri> ogra: testing hoary is okay but not on my workstation ;)
[04:40] <ogra> FallenHitokiri: thats what i meant with my warning ;)
[04:41] <Verr> miausX take dcc
[04:41] <FallenHitokiri> ogra: i have 2 problems with my notebook. first the speedstep thing and an acpi-bug that is no problem with a kernelpatch. but speedstep is something i need...
[04:42] <FallenHitokiri> would it help to load the modul at boottime?
[04:43] <ogra> FallenHitokiri: are you sure you need the centrino one ?
[04:43] <FallenHitokiri> ogra: yes. i work nearly 4 hours every day with my laptop without a powerconnectino
[04:44] <FallenHitokiri> would it help to build speedstep in the kernel and not as a modul?
[04:45] <Josip> i'm getting my IBM R50e (Centrino 1,5GHz) afte NY .
[04:45] <Josip> i'm getting my IBM R50e (Centrino 1,5GHz) after NY .
[04:45] <WeedVender> how would I got about restarting Gnome without restarting the Pc?
[04:46] <codecaine> ctl alt back
[04:46] <ogra> FallenHitokiri: nope, something blocks it from being loaded, putting that out of the way would help....no idea what it is though
[04:51] <FallenHitokiri> hm... i try something... be back later (thanks for helping me)
[04:55] <jiyuu0> 5 more minutes to 2005... Happy New Year!
[04:56] <snerfu> Happy new year
[04:57] <wezzer-> happy new year
[04:57] <jiyuu0> 3 more minutes... tick tick tick
[04:58] <sladen> depends where you live
[05:00] <jiyuu0> HAPPY NEW YEAR! I'm in 2005
[05:00] <wezzer-> :)
[05:00] <sladen> jiyuu0: Australia?
[05:00] <jiyuu0> sladen, Malaysia
[05:02] <FallenHitokiri> ogra: loading it with /etc/modules works. the modules are loaded.
[05:02] <FallenHitokiri> but nothing changed. 2hourse lifetime
[05:06] <VirtualDarKness> jiyuu0, happy 2005 :)
[05:07] <jiyuu0> can see illegal fireworks from my apartment...
[05:07] <abelli> who does feel the need for a wget-applet in firefox?
[05:08] <abelli> jiyuu0: ciao
[05:08] <VirtualDarKness> abelli, ciao ;)
[05:09] <jiyuu0> abelli, ciao means bye right?
[05:09] <VirtualDarKness> also hello
[05:09] <jiyuu0> now i see... cause all the while i thought ciao means bye only
[05:10] <abelli> so ? no-firefoxers listening?
[05:10] <jiyuu0> wah... big fireworks... near my window... crazy folks downstairs
[05:10] <FallenHitokiri> abelli: here
[05:11] <sladen> jiyuu0: I fireworks illegal full-stop;  or just the n
[05:11] <sladen> jiyuu0: I fireworks illegal full-stop;  or just on some occasions?
[05:12] <jiyuu0> in my country fireworks are illegal
[05:12] <jiyuu0> u can't buy it of the shelf...
[05:14] <abelli> FallenHitokiri: do you feel the need for a wget applet?
[05:14] <FallenHitokiri> abelli: yes i do
[05:15] <abelli> nice..
[05:15] <abelli> because i was thinking of a wget gui as test.bench for my ruby skills..
[05:16] <abelli> then i thought of a firefox's extension
[05:18] <abelli> FallenHitokiri: do you know prozilla?
[05:18] <FallenHitokiri> abelli: no
[05:30] <siretart> hi there
[05:32] <siretart> anyone using evolution Version: 2.1.2-0ubuntu1 with imaps? since the last upgrade evolution tells me that ssl is not available. Can somebody reproduce/confirm this?
[05:51] <siulca> hello
[06:14] <grumbel> after switching from debian unstable to ubuntu I seem to have some problems with the dns resolution, I know get more or less random 'can't resolve some_host', retrying again makes it work, config is the same as under debian, any idea what could be wrong?
[06:16] <ohyeah2005> grumbel, not sure, but you could get rid of the ipv6 stuff and see if it gets any better
[06:17] <grumbel> ohyeah2005: how can I get rid of it? rmmod, apt-get remove?
[06:18] <ohyeah2005> I would move the module somewhere else
[06:20] <ohyeah2005> this is where it is in my system: /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-4-386/kernel/net/ipv6/ipv6.ko
[06:21] <codecaine> rmmod
[06:22] <sladen> Okay.  GDM started.  Background fill.  Panel at top.  Panel at Bottom.  Pretty mouse pointer.  But nothing else.  How do I kick GNOME to finish starting?
[06:22] <codecaine> sladen, try rebooting again
[06:22] <codecaine> happened to me too
[06:23] <zenrox> ya
[06:23] <sladen> codecaine: this is happening with regularity.  Currently 100% regularity
[06:23] <codecaine> hmm
[06:23] <codecaine> i would reboot and it would fix it
[06:23] <codecaine> you all up2date?
[06:24] <codecaine> you can try running in init 1 or so and run it manually to see what errors or where it hangs?
[06:25] <sladen> codecaine: the reboot-to-fix-it has worked a few times.
[06:26] <codecaine> i actually cleaned my system and reinstalled and hasn't done it to me yet.
[06:26] <sladen> groovy.  /etc/init.d/gdm restart  and now we just have a 'hide all windows' applet
[06:28] <codecaine> report that as a bug if there isn't one already
[06:28] <Cloudchaser> hmm my scroll wheel stopped working ;( was working before the batteries on it quit, then i swapped it for a corded mouse til i got batteries, first one i tried had no scroll, then second one had scrolling, now scrolling isn't working on the cordless one ;(
[06:29] <Cloudchaser> anyone have any ideas for me?
[06:32] <georgia> tried restarting X?
[06:32] <Cloudchaser> yeo
[06:32] <Cloudchaser> yes
[06:32] <Cloudchaser> restarted the whole machine
[06:33] <setite> hello all
[06:33] <code-caine> anyone getting random non-frequent lockups and have to shutdown system?
[06:35] <sladen> codecaine: random lockups?  are they temperature related?
[06:35] <ulx> hi people.. any portmapper experts arround? having troubles with my hosts.allow/deny
[06:36] <Cloudchaser> i never have had any lockups
[06:36] <sladen> ulx: most stuff doesn't go through the portmapper.  What are you using it with?
[06:37] <ulx> 2 machines a.knoppix b.ubuntu.
[06:37] <Yannick_> I can't watch any dvd? what do I have to do? I installed libdvdcss2, made a link from /dev/cdrom to /dev/dvd
[06:38] <Yannick_> and it still says i'm missing plugins.
[06:38] <ulx> can ssh from ubuntu into knoppix, the other way arround not.
[06:38] <Xenguy> w00t!  My CD's just arrived this morning  :-D
[06:38] <ulx> can ssh into localhost on ubuntu either
[06:38] <ulx> hosts.deny/allow are the same on ubuntu and knoppix
[06:38] <wezzer-> Xenguy: where do you live?
[06:38] <shorty114> Xenguy: i got them 4 days ago :P
[06:38] <Xenguy> wezzer-: Canada
[06:39] <wezzer-> Yannick_: try ogle dvd player
[06:39] <Yannick_> wezzer: shouldn't totem play them?
[06:39] <wezzer-> Xenguy: ok, I live in Finland and my cd's haven't come
[06:39] <wezzer-> Yannick_: I'm not sure
[06:39] <wezzer-> I used ogle
[06:40] <Xenguy> wezzer-: I was wondering if they would arrive too, but here they are :-)
[06:40] <Yannick_> wezzer: apt-get install ogle should work?
[06:40] <wezzer-> Yannick_: try
[06:40] <wezzer-> Xenguy: lucky you :)
[06:41] <ulx> sladen: any ideas?
[06:41] <Cloudchaser> what is this? its in my dmesg usbcore: registered new driver usbhid
[06:42] <Cloudchaser> usbcore: registered new driver hiddev
[06:42] <cartman> Cloudchaser: your kernel has usb support
[06:43] <Cloudchaser> ok didn't know if something new happend that made my mouse not scroll
[06:44] <Cloudchaser> it still shows zaxis 4,5 in the XF86Config-4
[06:45] <sladen> ulx: SSH doesn't use portmapper or hosts.*
[06:45] <sladen> ulx: probably the reason you can't SSH it ubuntu is 'sshd' isn't running!
[06:46] <ogra> ulx: do you have openssh-server installed ?
[06:46] <Cloudchaser> i  googled and it said this: Got it fixed by simple deleting
[06:46] <Cloudchaser> /lib/modules/*..*/usbmouse.o (and restarted X)
[06:46] <Cloudchaser> does that make any sense?
[06:48] <ulx> hmm..  3710  0.0  0.3  2920  208 ?        Ss   Dec30   0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent is not the ssh daemon on ubuntu?
[06:49] <ogra> ulx: nope, thats sshd
[06:49] <ogra> ulx: ssh-agent is used by gdm
[06:49] <ulx> then i feel stupid now 8-)
[06:54] <ulx> en general, how would i find out what daemon go via hosts.allow/deny?
[06:55] <ulx> is it a valueable "stopper"? i mean could i empty the files out and still feel secure?
[06:56] <fissy> seems much better to use iptables to me ulx, that will work on all programs
[06:56] <ogra> ulx: externalaccess to portmap is disabled in ubuntu anyway....
[06:56] <Cloudchaser> :( still no scrolling...can't find any answers googling either
[06:56] <ogra> ulx: it does react only on <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:56] <Cloudchaser> heya ogra
[06:57] <ogra> Cloudchaser: hi :)
[06:57] <ulx> ogra: i elimated the localhost restrictions because i wanted to share some files around the network
[06:57] <Cloudchaser> ogra any ideas how to fix a mouse thats stopped scrolling?
[06:58] <ogra> ulx: makes sense for nfs
[06:58] <sladen> ~
[06:58] <sladen> Cloudchaser: did you upgrade to xorg?
[06:58] <Cloudchaser> not that i know of sladen
[06:58] <Cloudchaser> here's what happened
[06:58] <Cloudchaser> i have a cordless mouse
[06:58] <sladen> Cloudchaser: have you rebooted.  Have you restart X.  If it USB, is it PS2?
[06:58] <Cloudchaser> its batteries went dead
[06:59] <Cloudchaser> i grabbed a corded one
[06:59] <ogra> Cloudchaser: how does you mouse device part of the config look like, show it in #flood
[06:59] <Cloudchaser> it didn't scroll so i tried another one, it did scroll
[06:59] <sladen> does the mouse-pointer move and buttons (other than centre one) work fine
[06:59] <Cloudchaser> then i got batteries and swapped back to cordless one
[06:59] <sladen> have you rebooted the machine since putting new batteries in the mouse?
[06:59] <bluefoxicy> huh.
[06:59] <Cloudchaser> yes
[06:59] <Cloudchaser> twice
[06:59] <bluefoxicy> Warty can partition my disks
[06:59] <bluefoxicy> but it can't install
[06:59] <bluefoxicy> and thi kernel tihnks I have 1 partition
[06:59] <Cloudchaser> but when i swapped them i didn't shut down first
[06:59] <sladen> bluefoxicy: where does it fail?
[07:00] <Cloudchaser> but when it didn't scroll i restarted
[07:00] <Cloudchaser> 2 times
[07:00] <bluefoxicy> sladen:  cannot create XFS filesystem on hda#6
[07:00] <sladen> bluefoxicy: until you reboot, the kernel won't update its internal partition tables
[07:00] <bluefoxicy> sladen:  did that already
[07:00] <bluefoxicy> sladen:  and yes it will, if the disk doesn't contain mounted partitions.
[07:00] <sladen> bluefoxicy: have you tried just using the standard ext3 ?
[07:00] <bluefoxicy> sladen: /dev/ide/host0/target0/lun0/ has disc and part1 only
[07:00] <bluefoxicy> even after rebooting
[07:01] <bluefoxicy> and even after switching from 'expert' to 'linux'
[07:01] <sladen> so it's failing to partition, not to format?
[07:01] <Cloudchaser> ogra the XF86Config-4?
[07:01] <bluefoxicy> the partitioner says the partitions are tehre after I reboot
[07:01] <bluefoxicy> and fdisk -l also says they're there.
[07:01] <Cloudchaser> join #flood
[07:01] <Cloudchaser> oops
[07:01] <ogra> Cloudchaser: yep, the mouse parts
[07:01] <bluefoxicy> the kernel doesn't see them, but all userspace apps do.
[07:01] <sladen> bluefoxicy: and what does  /proc/partitions  think?
[07:01] <bluefoxicy> sladen:  it's partitioning
[07:02] <bluefoxicy> sladen: it thinks hda is 58605120 bytes
[07:02] <bluefoxicy> sladen:  and that hda1 is<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes
[07:02] <sladen> 60MB ?
[07:02] <bluefoxicy> kilobytes?
[07:02] <Cloudchaser> ogra posted in #flood
[07:02] <bluefoxicy> it's 60 gig
[07:02] <sladen> bluefoxicy: can you paste the various output on #flood
[07:02] <ogra> Cloudchaser: is there only one ?
[07:03] <bluefoxicy> sladen:  it thinks hda is 60G, and hda1 is 1tb
[07:03] <Cloudchaser> i have one more for the laptop nubbie pointer
[07:03] <bluefoxicy> sladen:  paste?  how the heck can I do that?
[07:03] <bluefoxicy> this isn't another window you know :P
[07:03] <sladen> bluefoxicy: good point
[07:04] <bluefoxicy> sladen:  anyway, interesting point, the thing seems to think hda1 is 20 times bigger than hda
[07:04] <zenrox> any one ever got gkrellm to view stats on another pc
[07:04] <sladen> bluefoxicy: so used to doing everything over serial connections
[07:04] <Cloudchaser> sladen hyou want me to post the other mouse one again? i had posted it before you went in there
[07:04] <ogra> Cloudchaser: the corded one was a ps2 or a usb mouse ?
[07:04] <bluefoxicy> should I erase the whole disk?
[07:04] <bluefoxicy> I was trying to avoid reinstalling the (broken) reactos
[07:04] <Cloudchaser> corded was usb one
[07:04] <Cloudchaser> the corded one that didn't scroll was a ps2 one
[07:04] <bluefoxicy> but I imagine erasing the disk isn't an acceptable solution in all cases  o_o
[07:05] <ogra> Cloudchaser: ps2 may interfere with the synaptics driver.....
[07:05] <bluefoxicy> nonsense, the ps2 is awesome
[07:05] <bluefoxicy> it has final fantasy on it.
[07:06] <Cloudchaser> ogra the cordless mouse and the built-in nubby mouse have always worked together fine, with scrolling
[07:06] <Cloudchaser> cordless scrolling worked before the battery went dead
[07:06] <ogra> hmm
[07:07] <Cloudchaser> i saw only one thing when i googled:
[07:07] <Cloudchaser> I had this problem. Got it fixed by simple deleting
[07:07] <Cloudchaser> /lib/modules/*..*/usbmouse.o (and restarted X)
[07:07] <Cloudchaser> This module was getting loaded by the system, but when it was
[07:07] <Cloudchaser> present the mouse didn't work right. I think I have a different mouse,
[07:07] <Cloudchaser>   (Microsoft Wireless USB Intellimouse Explorer "7" button wheelmouse)
[07:08] <Cloudchaser> I tried gobs of stuff.... only thing that worked was getting rid of
[07:08] <Cloudchaser> usbmouse.o (and then restarted X).
[07:08] <Cloudchaser> oh sorry thought i was in # flood
[07:08] <zenrox> use www.pastbin.org
[07:08] <Cloudchaser> does that make any sense to do ogra?
[07:08] <ogra> Cloudchaser: you could just have blacklisted it
[07:09] <Cloudchaser> i didn't do it, i just read it
[07:09] <ogra> Cloudchaser: no need to delete modules :)
[07:09] <Cloudchaser> i didn't want to do it til i asked someone
[07:09] <Cloudchaser> because...sometimes bad advice does bad things ;)
[07:09] <ogra> Cloudchaser: try it, if it doesnt work, change it back.....
[07:09] <Cloudchaser> ok how would i do that? blacklist something?
[07:10] <ogra> Cloudchaser: sudo gedit /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[07:10] <ogra> Cloudchaser: add the modulename as last line
[07:10] <ogra> save, reboot
[07:11] <Cloudchaser> i just put usbmouse.o at the end of the file?
[07:12] <sjoerd> Cloudchaser: without the .o
[07:12] <sladen> Cloudchaser: sudo modprobe usbmouse
[07:12] <sladen> Cloudchaser: see whether that helps if first
[07:12] <Cloudchaser> it looks like its there already
[07:12] <Cloudchaser> see #flood
[07:13] <Cloudchaser> doesn't that show its already blacklisted?
[07:14] <ogra> Cloudchaser: if it is in that file, yes...
[07:15] <Cloudchaser> well fooey then..i saw no other things except the zaxis and thats already as it should be
[07:16] <bluefoxicy> wiping the drive worked
[07:17] <ogra> Cloudchaser: probably sladens suggestion is worth a try then....
[07:17] <Cloudchaser> sudo modprobe usbmouse?
[07:18] <ArCHoNKoG> anyoe got a quickcam express to work on hoary
[07:18] <ogra> Cloudchaser: yuo
[07:18] <ogra> p
[07:18] <Cloudchaser> ok did that...didn't show anything
[07:19] <Cloudchaser> are there issues with changing mouses?
[07:19] <ogra> Cloudchaser: restart your X to see if something has changed......(log out and hit ctrl-alt-backspace in gdm)
[07:19] <Cloudchaser> do you think thats what messed things up?
[07:19] <Cloudchaser> ok brb
[07:21] <Cloudchaser> :(
[07:21] <ogra> hmm
[07:22] <Cloudchaser> still no scrolling..
[07:22] <ogra> so it has nothing to do with that module i guess
[07:22] <Cloudchaser> i'll try mouse on husband's windows pc..i don't have another linux pc at the moment
[07:24] <thoreauputic> jumping in I know - something about zaxis-mapping in XF86Config-4?
[07:26] <setite> anyone know what an admin does on a game server
[07:26] <thoreauputic>  Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" I seem to have here for a scroll mouse?
[07:27] <Cloudchaser>  yes thats what i have
[07:27] <Cloudchaser> it doesn't seem to be scrolling on the windows pc either, and the mouse that didn't scroll on ubuntu scrolls on windows
[07:27] <Cloudchaser> maybe my mouse is broken ;(
[07:27] <thoreauputic> Cloudchaser: ah, OK
[07:27] <Cloudchaser> fooey again ;(
[07:28] <thoreauputic> Hmm... well, Happy New Year from Australia, anyway :)
[07:28] <thoreauputic> Sat Jan  1 05:28:31 EST 2005
[07:28] <ogra> Cloudchaser: the usb mouse that didnt scroll ?
[07:29] <ogra> thoreauputic: a happy new one.... we have still 4,5h to go here
[07:30] <Cloudchaser> the cordless usb mouse didn't scroll on windows
[07:30] <thoreauputic> ogra: :)  Yes, internet makes one aware of the earth's size !
[07:30] <Cloudchaser> i have a corded usb mouse that scrolled on ubuntu...
[07:30] <ogra> thoreauputic: its so small :)
[07:31] <ogra> Cloudchaser: and didnt on win ?
[07:31] <Cloudchaser> a ps2 one scrolls on windows not on ubuntu..i'll go back to the corded one on ubuntu
[07:31] <ogra> Cloudchaser: ahh, ok, ps2 is pretty clear....
[07:32] <Prasatko> hello.help please. My soundcard works only for root, not for other users, (ubuntu, kernel 2.6).
[07:32] <Cloudchaser> ok corded usbmouse scrolls on ubuntu
[07:32] <Cloudchaser> guess i'll go back to that ;(
[07:33] <Cloudchaser> thanks for trying to help fellas
[07:33] <Cloudchaser> guess i need a new cordless one ;(
[07:33] <setite> anyone know where i can find out how linux game servers work
[07:33] <thoreauputic> Prasatko: are you in the group "audio" ?
[07:33] <setite> counter-strike source in particular if that matters
[07:35] <ArCHoNKoG> setite, go to gamsurge and go to channel #steam they should help you
[07:35] <thoreauputic> Prasatko: type `groups` to find out (in a terminal)
[07:35] <ArCHoNKoG> irc.gamsurge.net
[07:35] <ArCHoNKoG> irc.game*surge.net
[07:35] <Prasatko> thoreauputic: no.
[07:36] <Prasatko> thoreauputic: how to add user to group?
[07:36] <thoreauputic> Prasatko: not in audio? Well try sudo adduser <your user name> audio
[07:37] <Prasatko> thoreauputic:thanx. i'll try it
[07:37] <thoreauputic> Prasatko: log out and back in after adding your user
[07:38] <thoreauputic> Prasatko: then type groups again to confirm, if you wish
[07:40] <Prasatko> thoreauputic: ok, Thank you.
[07:40] <thoreauputic> Prasatko: hope it helps - sounds odd that you aren't in that group
[07:41] <punkrockguy318> hmm
[07:41] <punkrockguy318> my hostname on my ubuntu machine isn't showing up on my router
[07:41] <punkrockguy318> my winxp machines and my xbox do, but not this machine...
[07:42] <Prasatko> thoreauputic: I installed debian with kernel 2.2.20, then upgraded to 2.6 (ubuntu), i'm not a experienced linux user
[07:42] <punkrockguy318> any ideas?
[07:42] <thoreauputic> Prasatko: ah. So you upgraded to a 2.6 kernel from Woddy (stable) ?
[07:43] <de_wizze> Cloudchaser: what is the name of the mouse protocol you use Option	"Protocol"	"ImPS/2"
[07:43] <thoreauputic> *Woody
[07:43] <Prasatko> thoreauputic:yes :)
[07:43] <ulx_> when you take out your usb key, ubuntu flushes buffers or not?
[07:43] <thoreauputic> Prasatko: did you install Ubuntu, or just the kernel?
[07:44] <ulx_> had a problem just now with a file that i copied.. it was not all there.. the last part was missing
[07:44] <Prasatko> thoreauputic: I installed minimal version of debian, then I changed apt sources to ubuntu and also changed kernel to ubuntu.
[07:44] <thoreauputic> ulx_: advisable to unmount before removing it, I'd say
[07:45] <Seq> ulx: or at the very least, `sync`. if you just pull the key out, there is no longer anything to flush the buffer to
[07:45] <drspin> So I've been using Ubuntu for about a week now and despite some early configuration troubles, I must say that this is the best linux distro I've ever used!! I actually prefer Ubuntu over Gentoo -- for a day to day distro. It most certainly wins over that other OS (m$ anybody) -- thanks #ubuntu for your help!!
[07:46] <thoreauputic> Prasatko: I don't think that's a wise move - Woody has all kinds of differences and a direct update to Ubuntu is not going to be trivial
[07:46] <ulx_> drspin et al: hear hear.. i fully second that!
[07:47] <drspin> ulx_: :) :)
[07:47] <ulx_> seq: whats this "sync"?
[07:47] <Prasatko> thoreauputic: yes, you are right, as I said, I'm not experienced, so I will probably install only debian again
[07:47] <Seq> ulx: from `man sync` :  sync - flush filesystem buffers
[07:48] <Seq> ulx_: it would still be best to umount it though
[07:48] <thoreauputic> Prasatko: unless you enjoy troubleshooting, I think an install from an Ubuntu disk would be safer : for one thing, 2.6 kernels require a new version of module utilities
[07:48] <thoreauputic> Prasatko: if you want straight Debian, use the new installer
[07:49] <thoreauputic> for Sarge
[07:49] <Prasatko> thoreauputic: I had problems installing ubuntu, because in my notebook there is no CDROM,NET,FLOPPY, only HDD :)
[07:50] <ulx_> thx seq. ill check out the sync first see how things go,
[07:50] <speel> pras: the live cd might be able to be installed but im not sure
[07:50] <thoreauputic> Prasatko: ah - yes that would be tricky
[07:51] <Prasatko> thoreauputic: I don't know other distro (except debian) that can installed from dos partition
[07:51] <Seq> ulx_: i'd seriously just reccommend opening the "computer:/" view of nautilus, and telling it to un mount your disk
[07:52] <thoreauputic> Prasatko: there are others, but I use Debian so I'd recommand it anyway: rather than making the big jump to Ubuntu, you could just do an apt-get dist-upgrade from Woody or install Sarge and be done with it
[07:55] <Prasatko> thoreauputic: Ok, i think it will be best :) thank you
[07:56] <thoreauputic> Prasatko: good luck :)
[07:57] <ArCHoNKoG> anyone get glx error on hoary upgrade ?
[07:58] <Hikaru79> For some reason, audio skips whenever I play any video file.
[07:58] <Hikaru79> It works fine for mp3s
[07:58] <Hikaru79> But if I use gxine or xine to play an .avi, the audio keeps skipping every 3 seconds
[07:58] <Hikaru79> Any ideas?
[08:05] <Crane> hello all
[08:05] <Crane> again
[08:05] <Crane> :)
[08:05] <Crane> it is I
[08:05] <Crane> CRane
[08:05] <Hikaru79> Hey, CraHan_
[08:05] <Hikaru79> Err
[08:05] <Crane> Asker of silly questions
[08:05] <Hikaru79> Crane
[08:05] <Crane> :)
[08:05] <HEY> HI
[08:06] <Crane> how is everyone
[08:06] <Crane> I'm about to attemt a laptop install
[08:06] <Crane> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:06] <Hikaru79> Best of luck to you, Crane  :)
[08:06] <HEY> cool
[08:06] <Crane> thanks
[08:07] <Crane> does ubuntu work well with wireless?
[08:07] <sobralense> is there any way to uninstall "cups" without uninstalling ubuntu-desktop ?  =P
[08:07] <Hikaru79> Crane, yep
[08:07] <Crane> cool thanks
[08:07] <Hikaru79> sobralense, don't worry about ubuntu-desktop
[08:07] <Hikaru79> It's just a wierd thing to scare people
[08:08] <sobralense> Hikaru79, it wont be uninstalled?
[08:08] <Hikaru79> You can safely remove it
[08:08] <Hikaru79> It will, but it's not what it sounds like
[08:08] <Hikaru79> It's just a dependancy 'dummy' package
[08:08] <sobralense> ok, I saw this
[08:08] <ogra> Hikaru79: which is important if you upgrade from one stable version to the next
[08:08] <sobralense> Thanks +]  a really lot hehe
[08:08] <Hikaru79> Removing it will not hurt your desktop in any way shape or form.
[08:09] <Hikaru79> ogra, I see.
[08:09] <sobralense> I'm updating to hoary ..
[08:09] <Hikaru79> ogra, scroll up a bit-- do you have any ideas about the issue I asked about?
[08:09] <drspin> oes anyone see the reason in having a 'dummy' repository for the
[08:09] <drspin> lol
[08:10] <drspin> oops
[08:10] <sobralense> question here... : what "universe" means?
[08:10] <Hikaru79> universe is just a repository
[08:10] <drspin> ./ignore me
[08:10] <Hikaru79> That isn't enabled by default. You have to turn it on in the "Repository" tab of Synaptic
[08:10] <Hikaru79> sobralense, I definetly reccomend turning it on. Multiverse too. Lots of good stuff in there.
[08:10] <sobralense> I know, but what means
[08:10] <ogra> sobralense: all software that is packaged but expected to be maintained by the community (14000  pckages)
[08:11] <sobralense> wow
[08:11] <sobralense> =}
[08:11] <sobralense> Its first'ime using ubuntu ..
[08:11] <sobralense> I 've used debian before, but not much ..
[08:11] <ogra> sobralense: in fact its all imported from debian.....
[08:12] <sobralense> any way its different from the Old-school slackware
[08:12] <sobralense> ehehe
[08:12] <ogra> sobralense: with lots of adjustments in the main part...
[08:15] <sobralense> ogra, some how to about changing warty to hoary ?
[08:16] <ogra> sobralense: if you can live with frequent breakages :)
[08:16] <sobralense> I wanna know about "where the hell are loading those modules? "
[08:17] <sobralense> ogra, I hated the "stable" acx_pci used by my wireless d-link
[08:17] <ogra> most are handled by hotplug
[08:18] <sobralense> oh, so many breaks ? =P at the point to make another dist-upgrade?
[08:19] <sobralense> I have many bugs on live-cd .. I'm waiting to make tests and a stable connection.. I cant even open the ubuntuforum =P
[08:19] <sobralense> really unstable here..
[08:20] <sobralense> Isnt the ubuntu's fault, but my ISP .. =P
[08:25] <Luiso> hi, ubuntu use supermount?
[08:26] <ogra> pmount
[08:30] <Crane> hmmmmm
[08:30] <thetron> HI anyone tryed install wolfenstien : et and got it working
[08:30] <Crane> think I'm gonna play Quake3 a while
[08:31] <Crane> thetron: cool fun game
[08:32] <thetron> I've installed it and patched the game. Everytime i run the game you'd get this few second of blank screen and then all of a suddern "You x session has crash. Will restart X"
[08:32] <thetron> I'm using a fx5200
[08:32] <thetron> Nvidia
[08:34] <thetron> So whats causing that
[08:35] <Luiso> thanks ogra
[08:35] <Crane> look at your log files for X and see what error it's giving
[08:35] <ogra> Luiso: it just moved into debian from ubuntu :)
[08:36] <Crane> di you install wolfenstein or ET or both
[08:36] <Crane> did
[08:37] <Crane> wow I can't type today either
[08:37] <Crane> lol
[08:37] <thetron> Crane: Wolfenstien: ET is the full game
[08:38] <Crane> hmmm, misunderstanding here what I was asking is if it was wolfenstein or wolfenstein : ET
[08:38] <Crane> two different games
[08:38] <thetron> Yep 2 different games
[08:38] <thetron> I got et
[08:38] <Crane> Oh ok
[08:38] <thetron> I know tuxracer works okay
[08:39] <Crane> have your run anything else like quake3 or ut2003 or 4
[08:40] <sobralense> best game I know is tetris.. I runs on my computer.. =P
[08:40] <Crane> lol
[08:40] <Crane> I just ran ET on mine for the first time
[08:40] <thetron> I've only tryed this so far
[08:40] <sobralense> someone running games with ATI's ?
[08:40] <Crane> did you look at your x logs and see what error?
[08:41] <ohyeah2005> sobralense, te manca cara (get a clue). brincadeira (joking). :-)
[08:42] <sobralense> ohyeah2005, oia (wow) um brasileiro! (a guy that drinks "caipirinha" and dance samba! )
[08:42] <thetron> i pasted an error crane to ya
[08:42] <ohyeah2005> hehe. (lol)
[08:47] <Crane> wow my laptop install is going
[08:47] <Crane> S    L    O    W
[08:47] <Crane> :)
[08:49] <arthurgeek> hello all. in mine Gentoo box, XMMS supports id3v2 editng, but not in ubuntu, how to add this to xmms?
[08:53] <drspin> How can I tell FF to save a ".run" file  rather than view it?
[09:01] <Shanto> hello
[09:02] <Shanto> hello
[09:03] <Shanto> ubuntu stinks
[09:04] <Cloudchaser> ogra you still here?
[09:04] <ogra> yup
[09:05] <Cloudchaser> i have a question for you
[09:05] <setite> ogra whats up
[09:05] <Cloudchaser> i am doing some reading up on samba
[09:06] <Cloudchaser> and it says the smb.conf file is in /usr/local/samba/lib
[09:06] <quake> Hey, is Gnome 2.8 built in Warthy with Xinerama support?
[09:06] <Cloudchaser> i have one in /usr/share/samba
[09:06] <Cloudchaser> and also in /etc/samba
[09:06] <ogra> Cloudchaser: if you compile it from the source tarball without prefix option, it is :)
[09:07] <Cloudchaser> ok i didn't
[09:07] <ogra> setite: hi
[09:07] <Cloudchaser> but i still have 2
[09:07] <quake> Hmm, I should rephrase that... Is Gnome 2.8 in warthy built with Xinerama support?
[09:08] <setite> how is that rephrasing?
[09:09] <ogra> Cloudchaser: the one in /usr/share/samba is a nice backup :) normally you copy the /etc/samba one from there for a start....here apt does it for you
[09:09] <setite> ok nvm... i thought it was the same
[09:09] <quake> setite, It's just that my first sentence was kinda of messed up, that's why
[09:10] <Cloudchaser> something's not quite right with my samba..trying to figure it out...smbclient -L mysambaserver doesn't show any shares...when i do mount -a one of my shares doesn't get mounted as it did before
[09:10] <ogra> quake: i undestood them both :) but still dont know the answer.....
[09:10] <setite> yea... hmm
[09:10] <thoreauputic> quake: xinerama isn't a gnome thing :)
[09:10] <thoreauputic> it's an X thing afaik
[09:10] <Cloudchaser> also is swat included with the ubuntu samba package?
[09:11] <ogra> thoreauputic: the panel has a compile option.....
[09:11] <thoreauputic> ah I see
[09:11] <ogra> Cloudchaser: i think its a separate one....and it may require a enabled root user
[09:11] <quake> thoreauputic, I enabled dual Monitor support in X.org, but I can't access the second monitor *but it's working*
[09:11] <Cloudchaser> ok thanks
[09:12] <Cloudchaser> the other issue is that the samba services start after it tries to mount the shares at boot time
[09:15] <ogra> Cloudchaser: pcmcia networking ?
[09:15] <Cloudchaser> me? yes, wireless card
[09:15] <ogra> hmm
[09:15] <ogra> difficult
[09:15] <Cloudchaser> i had to change that in red hat
[09:16] <Cloudchaser> with the nice services tool ;)
[09:16] <Cloudchaser> thats minor though..i'll set it up a different way if i need to
[09:17] <Cloudchaser> but i don't know why one share isn't mounting when i do mount -a
[09:17] <ogra> the prob is, that pcmcia cant go before hotplug (needs the modules)
[09:17] <Cloudchaser> i can live with that
[09:17] <ogra> lol
[09:18] <Cloudchaser> i can mount them manually or set it up in a script to do it after booting
[09:18] <ogra> but it probably wont work....
[09:18] <Cloudchaser> i'll research that more
[09:18] <Cloudchaser> what won't work?
[09:18] <ogra> its a prob with the bootorder....
[09:18] <ogra> to change it ....
[09:18] <Cloudchaser> yes but ther's another way
[09:18] <Cloudchaser> in um...some file
[09:19] <Cloudchaser> i read it earlier
[09:19] <newyear> !seen sap
[09:19] <ogra> you can run a own init script that mounts them
[09:19] <ogra> in the end of the boot process if everything is up.....
[09:19] <Cloudchaser> right thats it
[09:20] <sobralense> anyone here using module acx_pci to use with wireless card?
[09:20] <Cloudchaser> but first i want to get it all working well, then i'll document it nicely for the wiki
[09:20] <ogra> :)
[09:20] <ogra> sobralense: whats the issue ?
[09:21] <sobralense> Know where it's loaded =P
[09:21] <sobralense> and know if someone made it work with "warty - LiveCD"
[09:21] <ogra> i think by hotplug....
[09:23] <ogra> cant you simply load it  ? and then configure the network ?
[09:23] <sobralense> I'm trying to remove the older entry to not cause some error
[09:24] <drspin> which rc script do I edit to mount /mnt/data at boot time?
[09:24] <nuopus> hello
[09:24] <nuopus> /etc/fstab
[09:24] <nuopus> not an rc script
[09:24] <drspin> it's in fstab
[09:25] <ogra> drspin: is there a "noauto" in the line ?
[09:25] <nuopus> take that out
[09:25] <nuopus> lol
[09:26] <drspin> lmao Yeah it was there... sorry
[09:28] <bluefoxicy> there's still no way to downgrade+?
[09:28] <bluefoxicy> I just tried to upgrade to hoary
[09:28] <bluefoxicy> and it broke
[09:28] <bluefoxicy> so I tried to downgrade to warty
[09:28] <ogra> thats hoary....
[09:28] <bluefoxicy> and it was like ". . .nope.  BTW python 2.4 is needed!"
[09:29] <bluefoxicy> ogra:  I wanted to see if it'd work :)
[09:29] <bluefoxicy> now I'm just plain too lazy to reinstall.
[09:29] <ogra> reinstall id the best option.......or wait some updates and live with the current state
[09:30] <ogra> bluefoxicy: bwt, what broke ?
[09:30] <bluefoxicy> ogra:  it had a bunch of things about python dependencies
[09:30] <ogra> bluefoxicy: no, in hoary i men
[09:30] <ogra> mean
[09:31] <bluefoxicy> yeah, that's what happened.  it flat out failed to dist-upgrade
[09:31] <bluefoxicy> would you like me to resodomize it and see if I can get the same thing?
[09:31] <Crane> wow my laptop install is going really
[09:31] <ogra> bluefoxicy: was ubuntu-desktop installed before the upgrade ?
[09:31] <bluefoxicy> ogra:  yes
[09:31] <Crane> S         L                 O             W
[09:32] <Crane> think I'll get a snack
[09:32] <Crane> :)
[09:32] <bluefoxicy> ogra:  interrelationships affecting pymacs
[09:32] <bluefoxicy> pymacs depends on python <<2.4
[09:32] <ogra> Crane: yeah, thats marketing ;) the os will later feel twice as fast ;)
[09:33] <ogra> oh
[09:33] <ohyeah2005> where can I find informtaion on how to remaster ubuntu? is there such an info freely available? :-)
[09:33] <bluefoxicy> ogra:  and python supplied is python 2.4-0ubuntu or something.
[09:33] <drspin> remaster?
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> ogra:  i think I found the problem~~
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> you supply python 2.4 and depend on python <<2.4
[09:34] <ohyeah2005> create my own ISO based on Ubuntu, so I can include my usual tools in it
[09:34] <sobralense> anybody knows if the default kernel from warty receives any patch? to work better or something else..
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> whatever << is
[09:34] <Crane> I hope so
[09:34] <bluefoxicy> ogra:  could that be it?
[09:34] <ogra> ohyeah2005: there is something in the wiki afaik
[09:34] <ohyeah2005> cool, I'm gonna search for it. thanks
[09:34] <Crane> I had XP on there but good lord XP takes a lot of disk space
[09:35] <ogra> bluefoxicy: maybe....
[09:36] <calamari> yeah xp is bloated, doesn't have real ms-dos, and full of security problems.  I'm glad for Ubuntu.. hopefully if I can sort out a few more dos emulation issues I'll kiss98se goodbye forever
[09:36] <bluefoxicy> ogra:  adding back in the source for warty seems to fix it.
[09:36] <drspin> Crane: XP blows -- However, if you're switching to linux just to save a couple hundred Mb's perhaps you should reevaluate :/
[09:36] <ogra> bluefoxicy: have you run apt-get update after adding hoary ?
[09:36] <bluefoxicy> ogra:  yes
[09:37] <Crane> drspin: nope I'm switching to linux cause XP blows
[09:37] <Crane> :)
[09:37] <bluefoxicy> XP sucks and blows at the same time
[09:38] <drspin> Crane: Carry on ;)
[09:39] <omac> Hi everyone, I have ubuntu desktop 4.1 installed on an ibm thinkpad 770x.  X came up first shot on both x86 and apple powerbook g4.  Congrats to ubuntu.
[09:39] <drspin> Ubuntu gets lots of props!
[09:39] <scoon> bluefoxicy, how true.
[09:40] <sobralense> Crane, I had 3 virus with XP .. and never used IE, only mozilla/firefox and never use and executable .. with avast antivirus installed too
[09:40] <sobralense> omac, =}
[09:40] <sobralense> ubuntu growed quickly
[09:40] <sobralense> I think was about those free cd's .. ehehheh
[09:41] <omac> I do have the same problem in both machines however.  I can't play with the powerbook g4 because it's somebody else's and they were away.  That said xine/totem don't play divx files and the output shows a blue screen with unlegible words and to the right a bit,
[09:41] <drspin> can i still get a free pressed CD of Warty?
[09:41] <Crane> sobralense: just imagine how infected you would have been using EI
[09:41] <Crane> oops IE
[09:42] <Crane> oh and IE blows too
[09:42] <omac> I see horizontal lines flicking for the height of the output window.
[09:42] <sobralense> IE rocks, thats why firefox got popular
[09:42] <sobralense> =)
[09:43] <sobralense> news at new york times .. and other journals ..
[09:44] <Crane> IE is rock solid, stable, and safe
[09:44] <Crane> as long as you don't use it
[09:45] <omac> sobralense:  I got my ubuntu from the magazine "Linuxuser & developer" Issue 44.  I cost me 21$Canadian(with taxes).
[09:45] <omac> sobralense:  That was yesterday :)
[09:46] <sobralense> omg, try getting some cd's at shipit.ubuntulinux.org
[09:46] <sobralense> I think is this link
[09:46] <sobralense> =)
[09:47] <sobralense> omac, share with U'r friends, mamma, pappa, and burn a "free" copy of windows XP to your enemies!
[09:47] <setite> Crane... it is very stable in the recycle bin
[09:47] <Crane> LMAO
[09:49] <sobralense> Crane, I'm brazillian, please explain "LMAO"
[09:49] <sobralense> =)
[09:49] <ohyeah2005> laghing my ass off
[09:50] <ohyeah2005> and I'm brazillian too :P
[09:51] <omac> How's the weather in Brazil?
[09:52] <ohyeah2005> where I live today we didn't get rain, yet. it was a suuny day entering the night. almost 6 pm
[09:53] <omac> It rained here but it didn't freeze.  It's going to freeze tonight though.  I am in Ottawa.
[09:55] <omac> I am thankful not to be victim of tsunami weather.
[09:56] <ohyeah2005> man, those pictures show how devastating it was (besides the increasing death toll)
[09:57] <ohyeah2005> http://www.digitalglobe.com/tsunami_gallery.html
[09:58] <sobralense> omac, where I live in Brazil would be great a bit of "rain" ... =P
[09:58] <sobralense> ohyeah2005, Ceara  =P
[09:58] <omac> Our local newspaper today mentioned that some research offices had detected it earlier in Australia and Japan but because of all the bureaucracy, it never got into the right hands.  The offices both reported it their upper chain but it was Sunday.
[09:59] <drspin> it rained like crazy the night before last here in Arizona, United States -- and it was foggy yesterday... it doesn't get foggy in phoenix!! LOL
[09:59] <regeya> heh.
[09:59] <regeya> the one time I got to visit arizona, torrential rains visited the state.
[10:00] <drspin> LOL _ it's so rare!!
[10:00] <omac> Hey my sister is thinking about going for a trip to pheonix arizona.
[10:00] <drspin> omac: I live in Phoenix ;)
[10:00] <regeya> It was a wet year here by the Mississippi R., and I was sort of looking forward to arid conditions :-P
[10:01] <omac> Pardon my ignorance but Pheonix is the name of the city right?
[10:01] <regeya> before that though, it had been dry; I left a hotel room bathroom looking like a crimescene.  turns out my nasal passages weren't looking forward to the low humidity as much as I was.
[10:01] <drspin> omac - yes, it's the major metropolitan area for Arizona
[10:02] <setite> anyone know if it is ever planned, if at all possible, to support eax or 5.1 in linux, and namely cedega
[10:02] <omac> I went to Austin a few years ago.  I originally thought Pheonix was also in Texas.  It tells you how much I know my geography :)
[10:04] <drspin> setite: I don't believe there is support for either
[10:04] <setite> pheonix sucks
[10:04] <omac> So are we all drunk for New Year's yet?
[10:04] <setite> my uncle moved from here to there
[10:04] <setite> i went to visit... i was so fucking bored
[10:04] <calamari> drspin: glad to hear you got some rain.. we got some down here in Tucson too
[10:04] <setite> its like an old folks home... in an entire town
[10:05] <drspin> calamari: heh - not too far away!!
[10:05] <drspin> if you were bored in phoenix you had very little imagination...
[10:06] <drspin> perhaps you were in a richie suburb of phoenix and yes those can be boring...
[10:06] <calamari> drspin: have you been to castles & coasters there? what times are the least busy?
[10:06] <setite> nah it wasnt rich at all
[10:06] <setite> i wish it had been
[10:06] <drspin> calamari: I have no idea - never been there
[10:06] <setite> at least i could have flirted with some virginal rich girl
[10:06] <calamari> drspin: saw it when driving to glendale, looked like fun
[10:06] <drspin> calamari: maybe once as a kid...
[10:06] <drspin> I've heard that it is quite fun!
[10:07] <omac> drspin:....yeah I agree.  I heard some say "The best means of travel is via the imagination..."  I travel a lot...in my imagination...
[10:07] <setite> i can travel in my mind while in vegas
[10:07] <setite> then when i return to reality i can hit the strip
[10:07] <setite> or a strip club
[10:08] <setite> or the other many crazy places that are here... but not in phoenix
[10:08] <setite> but yea... i suppose im spoiled living here
[10:08] <calamari> umm.. I think all towns have strip clubs, but why would anyone want to go into one?
[10:08] <setite> i dont go to them.. it was just an example
[10:08] <setite> and sure every town has them
[10:09] <setite> but here there are more
[10:09] <drspin> omac: pick a subject, grab a phone book, and go somewhere!
[10:09] <setite> its actually sad how many
[10:09] <setite> haha... you shouldnt need a phone book
[10:09] <drspin> OMAC: that was for setite
[10:09] <setite> i like to go to the strip... and make fun of people
[10:09] <omac> Going back on topic, does anybody have any advice concerning weird output in xine.
[10:09] <drspin> setite: pick a subject, grab a phone book, and go somewhere!
[10:09] <setite> yes i know it was... but i felt inclined to reply
[10:09] <omac> drspin: no problemo :)
[10:10] <setite> phonebook is no fun
[10:10] <setite> but yea...
[10:10] <setite> xine? whats that
[10:10] <drspin> LOL but the address to hooter's can yield a pretty good time
[10:10] <drspin> or perhaps catch a ballgame (you pick the sport)
[10:11] <drspin> area football is pretty cool live! ;)
[10:11] <drspin> *arena
[10:11] <omac> phonebooks are cool too.  Everytime I go to a new city, the first thing I do when I have some brain-dead time is to look at the yellowpages...all of them.  No reason, I just think I nostalgic I think.
[10:11] <drspin> LOL
[10:12] <omac> To be honest I haven't travelled much.  So much for the yellowpages.
[10:12] <drspin> LOL
[10:13] <omac> ok drspin...how long have you been hangin in ubuntu land?
[10:14] <WebMaven> setite: I'm in Las Vegas too.
[10:14] <Crane> uh oh
[10:14] <WebMaven> setite: you shouldn't make fun of the people on the strip, they're paying our state income taxes.
[10:15] <Crane> ubuntu is installed
[10:15] <Crane> but it didn't find my wireless card
[10:15] <Crane> crap
[10:15] <omac> any ubuntu experts here?  I'm looking for some xine tips...c'mon anyone.  Aunt Tillie?
[10:17] <regeya> aunt tillie is an esr invention, right?
[10:18] <trans__err> when ever mail hits my server it bounces... how can i make sure it goes to the user?
[10:18] <regeya> esr thinks aunt tillie is retarded.  I'm insulted.
[10:18] <omac> Happy New Year and the best of health and happiness to everyone.
[10:18] <trans__err> (from external sources)
[10:18] <regeya> I'm still trying to sort out my CUPS oddities.
[10:19] <regeya> I can print from Qt-based apps, even ones printing straight to CUPS.  I can print using 'lpr'.  I cannot print from GNOME apps (unless going through 'lpr') and cannot print using 'lp'.
[10:19] <trans__err> can anyone help?
[10:19] <regeya> I had installed some official Epson Stylus Photo R800 drivers, and that's when the problems started.
[10:20] <omac> I read the name in the linuxuser magazine I read last night.  I figured I might press someone's button to help me with my ubuntu problems.  I haven't had any success yet.
[10:20] <regeya> xine just works for me, sorry
[10:22] <Crane> should I need to reconfig the kernel to get wireless working?
[10:22] <setite> where can i get those damn magazines in vegas
[10:23] <setite> i havent been able to find them
[10:26] <Nivlem> I just used sound juicer to rip to wav format...what default burning program is installed that will make a audio cd?
[10:26] <setite> haha
[10:26] <setite> doom3 OSP stopped
[10:26] <setite> fucking id software
[10:26] <setite> good theing i dont particularly like that game
[10:26] <sobralense> Nivlem, try installing k3b ...
[10:27] <setite> well iD stopped it
[10:27] <setite> but i imagine the community may continue it
[10:27] <Nivlem> sobralense: Ok but how will it run without kde installed?
[10:28] <sobralense> Nivlem, with apt-get it will install everything ..
[10:28] <drspin> someone asked about 5.1 sound in linux???
[10:28] <Nivlem> sobralense: Ok thanks...will it add it to the menu? Or will I need to search the app name? which is?
[10:29] <drspin> [quote]   The Linux kernel comes with the OSS/Free API, which works great in most cases but lacks multichannel support. You can download a binary OSS/Linux implementation from 4Front Technologies[4] . To sum up, the drivers are 'free for non commercial use'. You can use them to play Doom III. They have great multichannel support, and that's the drivers I used to develop the OSS backend. [quote]  http://www.webdog.org/cgi-bin/finger.plm?id=476&time=2
[10:29] <drspin> whoa that's long --- sorry
[10:29] <sobralense> Nivlem, try "apt-get install k3b "
[10:29] <drspin> someone asked about that earlier
[10:29] <drspin> ;)
[10:29] <sobralense> Nivlem, and then .. "k3b "
[10:32] <drspin> Setie: was it you?
[10:32] <punkrockguy318> how much space is required for a default ubuntu install?
[10:32] <zenwhen> 1.5GB or so
[10:32] <zenwhen> I think
[10:32] <s0cks> I'm still having loads of problems
[10:33] <s0cks> When the hard disk is plugged in, you can't even get into the BIOS setup 0_0
[10:42] <globule> Hi all
[10:42] <Muskrat> hi
[10:42] <drspin> hi
[10:46] <Nivlem> sobralense: Now it complains that it wants to run with root privs...however when I use the sudo password it tells me it isn't correct..what is the correct process to run k3b from the menu item I added?
[10:47] <sobralense> Nivlem, try "su" put the root password and later type "k3b"
[10:48] <Nivlem> sobralense: I am adding the item to a menu...not from command line..
[10:51] <bretzel> Hi there
[10:51] <ObsidianX> hey guys im having a strange installation problem
[10:52] <ObsidianX> im trying to install to the 3rd partition on the drive (i have a few fat32 partitions before it) but it doesnt seem to find anything but the first partition
[10:52] <ObsidianX> it goes into the partitioner and lets me do my stuff to it
[10:52] <ObsidianX> but then when it trys to mount the root (hda3) it fails
[10:53] <ObsidianX> so i checked out the /dev directory in the terminal and it didn't show anything past part1
[10:53] <ObsidianX> in the ide directory
[10:55] <bretzel> ObsidianX: Strange because I've just installed Ubuntu last night and apart from having little trouble make it use an already defined and formated ext3 partition, that's it, I had to reformat that partition. And btw, I do have several kind of partitions sread in two hd's and I have no problem...
[10:56] <ObsidianX> bretzel: is reiser a problem?
[10:56] <ObsidianX> i was using that fs
[10:56] <mcl> Hello everyone... does anyone here know much about configuring X?  I can't seem to get the X server to use any resolution between 1600x1200 and 1024x768
[10:57] <bretzel> I dunno, I dismissed to try out resiserfs... I know ext2/3 are well supported.
[10:57] <gobeavs> I heard that Reiser is faster, so I use it
[10:57] <ObsidianX> reiserfs is what i've used everywhere else
[10:57] <ObsidianX> even on other forms of debian
[10:58] <bretzel> btw, I am here because I would like to know how to use apt-get/deselect or whatever tool to install the big KDE-3.3 world.... Someone know about Debian install tools? because I am used to RPMs ( Fedora-Core/ Mandrake ) I dunno Debian
[10:59] <gobeavs> use synaptic
[10:59] <bretzel> OsidianX: Yes Reiserfs is faster.
[10:59] <mcl> reiserfs is very fast, and quite stable until you get a bad harddrive.  I had some bad blocks on a reiserfs partition and for the life of me couldn't get the reiserfs tools to recover it.  I had to dd the whole thing to a file on a good drive and mount it through loopback
[10:59] <trans__err> sendmail won't deliver local mail... how can i fix that?
[11:00] <punkrockguy318> trans__err, works for me.. hmm
[11:00] <trans__err> punkrockguy318: i've been playing with mine to accept and deliver external mail as well
[11:01] <hannes__> Happy new year!
[11:01] <punkrockguy318> why don't you use smtp?
[11:01] <bretzel> trans_err: Oh! I never get sendmail or anything else to accept external emails to my conputer... :-) I envy you :-)
[11:01] <punkrockguy318> is there anyway to make evolution automatically send/receiev when the program starts?
[11:03] <bretzel> gobeavs: Thanks, but I have to relogin as root :-( XDisplay won't lauch it!! :-) Thus Happy new year all and love for all!
[11:10] <warty> hi guys, there was a bootable cd project full of utilities to check system information, simple benchmarking etc. what was the name of the project?
[11:11] <Ribs> Knoppix
[11:12] <drspin> ubuntu-live-cd
[11:12] <KobrAs-> ubuntu live?
[11:12] <drspin> ;)
[11:12] <KobrAs-> warty, use ubuntu-live, it rocks
[11:12] <KobrAs-> i just got 14 copies :)
[11:12] <bur[n] er> and based on morphix... even cooler ;)
[11:12] <spikeb> lol KobrAs-
[11:12] <Ribs> wtf are you gonna do with 14 copies?!
[11:12] <bur[n] er> frisbees!!!
[11:13] <KobrAs-> sharing with friends :)
[11:13] <sobralense> Ribs, dont U have friends?
[11:13] <sobralense> ehehe
[11:13] <Ribs> no
[11:13] <Ribs> do you?
[11:13] <sobralense> about 15 .. thats why I got 20
[11:14] <KobrAs-> 15 real friends?
[11:14] <sobralense> to share with the friends of friends
[11:14] <sobralense> KobrAs-,  =)
[11:14] <KobrAs-> :)
[11:14] <sobralense> no so much
[11:14] <sobralense> not
[11:15] <drspin> I took a couple copies to work today -- handing them out to a few of my Intel-employed customers ;)
[11:15] <sobralense> but I think those 3 that are using linux ubuntu now are.. =D
[11:21] <drspin> does alien work on ubuntu?
[11:22] <sobralense> warty, hi! Whereis hoary? U'r brother.
[11:22] <sobralense> drspin, does alien exists?!?
[11:23] <drspin> LOL
[11:24] <drspin> http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[11:24] <sobralense> I think only human beings work on ubuntu
[11:24] <sobralense> =) just kidding..
[11:25] <sobralense> people sunddely got quiet here..
[11:28] <warty> hoary went shopping
[11:29] <spikeb> heh
[11:29] <mjr> hmm, is there a ready-made libdvdcss package for amd64?
[11:31] <mjr> apparenly at marillat, hopefully that fits ubuntu
[11:31] <drspin> I was meaning does alien work good enough to use regularly?
[11:31] <setite> mjr hopefully... report back
[11:32] <mjr> yesh, it works
[11:33] <mjr> found the link here: http://debian.video.free.fr/
[11:35] <setite> mjr... awesome
[11:35] <setite> whenever anything works its a good thing
[11:35] <bungle> is it 2005 there yet?
[11:36] <mjr> righto, now to start the year off with lotr: rotk - ee :)
[11:36] <bungle> lol
[11:36] <bungle> its 9:30 here
[11:37] <bungle> jan 1st
[11:37] <mjr> way ahead of me
[11:37] <bungle> lol
[11:38] <bungle> my b/f started work at 12:30 this morning
[11:39] <spikeb> heh
[11:39] <hannes__> 00:38 here
[11:39] <spikeb> police officer?
[11:39] <hannes__> so happy new year to #ubuntu
[11:39] <bungle> console operator
[11:39] <bungle> $22.60 an hour is alright though .. I think :/
[11:39] <spikeb> aye
[11:43] <bungle> lmfao
[11:43] <techn9ne> will linux work w/ this mini soltek qbic custom motherboards?
[11:43] <techn9ne> http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=10743&vpn=EQ-3401A&manufacture=SOLTEK
[11:44] <bungle> linux worked on my soltek board
[11:45] <zenwhen> techn9ne, Ive seen people saying the sound didnt work?
[11:45] <techn9ne> i just dont wanna go out and buy it and have to run windows
[11:45] <bungle> I am sure linux will work fine if you have the time to make it
[11:48] <Ben__> i'm having trouble having the live cd of ubuntu recognize and configure my network card (intel 21143-based pci fast ethernet adapter) does anyone know what to do to make it so internet can be used with this?
[11:51] <calamari> hi
[11:51] <calamari> I'm looking for something similar to rawrite for linux.  any ideas?
[11:55] <calamari> nm.. it's dd I guess :)
[11:55] <techn9ne> Ben__ : I've had problems w/ live cd not recognizing all my h/w
[11:56] <techn9ne> Ben__ : you also can't configure anything that doesnt get setup w/ defualt install
[11:56] <techn9ne> default setup i mean
[11:56] <techn9ne> you cant select a driver manually
[11:56] <techn9ne> you gotta do a full install for that
[11:57] <namaste> 3 minutes to 2005 in germany
[11:57] <techn9ne> its only 3pm here
[11:58] <punkrockguy318> it's 6 here
[11:58] <techn9ne> east coast?
[11:58] <namaste> 2 minutes to 12
[11:58] <punkrockguy318> yup
[11:58] <techn9ne> im in vancouver
[11:58] <punkrockguy318> oh
[11:58] <bungle> lol
[11:59] <bungle> new yrs been n gone in australia
[11:59] <bungle> :P
[11:59] <bungle> it must be exciting
[11:59] <bungle> :P
[11:59] <JanC> damn, fireworks at the neighbours  :-/