[04:02] <coolstar-pc> Does Qt come with Ubuntu? I'm on Kubuntu myself, but I'm just wondering, as I'm going to start developing an app for Linux, and Ubuntu is the most popular distro...
[14:31] <JanC> coolstar-pc: Qt is installed by default in Ubuntu Desktop since 11.10, for older versions it can be installed easily (and if you have a .deb that depends on it, it will be installed automatically if it wasn't yet)
[17:13] <achuni_> wow
[17:14] <achuni_> notbook overheated, and just powered down :(
[17:14] <achuni_> notebook
[17:15] <achuni> zematynnad: could I ask you for a quick code review for https://code.launchpad.net/~elachuni/software-center-agent/929830-arbify/+merge/92804?
[17:15] <zematynnad> sure thing
[17:17] <achuni> txs
[20:42] <jo-erlend> how come Ubuntu doesn't use gtk 3.2 yet? I thought I'd play with the broadway backend (to render desktop apps using HTML), but it isn't supported.
[20:43] <jo-erlend> I'm talking about Precise now.
[20:45] <davidpitkin> jo-erlend, I would guess there are dependencies broken in a few applications...
[20:46] <davidpitkin> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0
[20:47] <davidpitkin> If I read that right GTK 3.3 is in Precise
[20:49] <jo-erlend> I looked at it. I didn't really understand it. To me, it looked as if it was version 3.3 of Gtk 3.0 or something. :)
[20:51] <jo-erlend> slightly confusing. But I think gtk has to be compiled to support the broadway backend. Perhaps it just isn't?
[20:56] <davidpitkin> jo-erlend, that could be true, but you are pushing my gtk knowledge...
[20:58] <jo-erlend> davidpitkin, yes, my own as well. But then that's the point. :)
[20:58] <davidpitkin> ah well you could compile your own replacement...
[20:59] <ajmitch> morning
[21:07] <davidpitkin> jo-erlend, this is the file you would want to change to build the package with the broadway backend
[21:07] <davidpitkin> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/gtk+3.0/precise/view/head:/debian/rules
[21:07] <davidpitkin> thanks to james_w
[21:07] <jo-erlend> thanks :)


[04:14] <noonehere4u> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[04:14] <noonehere4u> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[04:14] <noonehere4u> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[04:14] <WikiPuppies11> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[04:15] <noonehere4u> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[04:15] <WikiPuppies11> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[04:15] <noonehere4u> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[04:15] <WikiPuppies11> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[04:15] <WikiPuppies11> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[04:15] <WikiPuppies11> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[04:29] <therock247uk28> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[04:29] <therock247uk28> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[04:29] <therock247uk28> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[04:29] <therock247uk28> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[04:29] <therock247uk28> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[05:05] <MeiR> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[05:05] <MeiR> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[05:05] <MeiR> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[05:05] <MeiR> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[05:05] <MeiR> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[05:33] <Syfer> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[05:33] <Syfer> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[05:33] <Syfer> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[05:34] <Syfer> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[05:34] <Syfer> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[05:36] <l0de5> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[05:36] <l0de5> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[05:36] <l0de5> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[05:36] <l0de5> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[05:36] <l0de5> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[05:47] <Silversword> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[05:47] <Silversword> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[05:47] <Silversword> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[05:47] <Silversword> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[05:47] <Silversword> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[05:53] <soahccc> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[05:53] <soahccc> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[05:54] <soahccc> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[05:54] <soahccc> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[05:54] <soahccc> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[06:18] <Solprefixer> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[06:18] <Solprefixer> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[06:18] <Solprefixer> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[06:18] <Solprefixer> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[06:19] <Solprefixer> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[06:47] <Blendify_i5> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[06:47] <Blendify_i5> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[06:47] <Blendify_i5> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[06:47] <Blendify_i5> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[06:47] <Blendify_i5> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[06:49] <dfgg5> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[06:49] <dfgg5> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[06:49] <dfgg5> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[06:49] <dfgg5> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[06:49] <dfgg5> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[07:30] <Syfer> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[07:30] <Syfer> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[07:30] <Syfer> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[07:30] <Syfer> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[07:30] <Syfer> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[08:08] <enyc26> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[08:08] <enyc26> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[08:08] <enyc26> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[08:08] <enyc26> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[08:08] <enyc26> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[08:39] <armin18> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[08:39] <armin18> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[08:39] <armin18> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[08:39] <armin18> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[08:39] <armin18> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[10:31] <James_T8> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[10:31] <James_T8> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[10:31] <James_T8> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[12:45] <matthiaskrgr22> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[12:45] <matthiaskrgr22> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[12:45] <matthiaskrgr22> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[12:45] <matthiaskrgr22> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[12:45] <matthiaskrgr22> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[13:49] <elios2> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[13:49] <elios2> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[13:49] <elios2> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[13:49] <elios2> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[13:49] <elios2> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[14:23] <Chords> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[14:23] <Chords> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[14:23] <Chords> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[14:23] <Chords> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[14:23] <Chords> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[14:58] <egos10> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[14:58] <egos10> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[14:58] <egos10> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[14:58] <egos10> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[14:58] <egos10> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[15:15] <ravioli29> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[15:15] <ravioli29> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[15:15] <ravioli29> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[15:15] <ravioli29> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[15:15] <ravioli29> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[15:52] <node9> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[15:52] <node9> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[15:52] <node9> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[15:52] <node9> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[15:52] <node9> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[15:58] <daemon1> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[15:58] <daemon1> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[15:58] <daemon1> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[15:58] <daemon1> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[15:58] <daemon1> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[16:19] <e15> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[16:19] <e15> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[16:19] <e15> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[16:19] <e15> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[16:19] <e15> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[19:27] <barbietoss> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[19:27] <barbietoss> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[19:27] <barbietoss> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[19:27] <barbietoss> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[19:27] <barbietoss> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[19:51] <MartesZibellina> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[19:51] <MartesZibellina> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[19:51] <MartesZibellina> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[19:51] <MartesZibellina> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[19:51] <MartesZibellina> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[20:52] <sulvone24> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[20:53] <sulvone24> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[20:53] <sulvone24> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[20:53] <sulvone24> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[20:53] <sulvone24> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[20:57] <stalled22> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[20:58] <stalled22> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[20:58] <stalled22> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[20:58] <stalled22> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[21:25] <TingPing20> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[21:25] <TingPing20> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[21:25] <TingPing20> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[21:25] <TingPing20> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[21:25] <TingPing20> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/
[21:25] <ynyounuo> Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times?
[21:26] <ynyounuo> This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes.
[21:26] <ynyounuo> Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence?
[21:26] <ynyounuo> Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936
[21:26] <ynyounuo> Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/


[02:10] <snap-l> Whew, fixed up my bookcase
[02:10] <snap-l> the back cardboard is tearing away, so eventually it would just crumble
[02:11] <snap-l> hammered some more nails in it.  This was just to make sure it didn't accidentally fall over and kill someone.
[13:49] <snap-l> I wish this code had adopted the manager pattern sooner.
[13:49] <snap-l> Having to deal with SQL statments directly makes me nervous that I'll miss something along the way.
[13:49] <rick_h> lol, I always wish code adopted cleaner stuff sooner :)
[13:51] <snap-l> Well, I'm already trying to shim in one thing, and it would have been nicer to have a single shim point. :)
[13:52] <snap-l> Almost missed the email portion of it which would not have been great).
[14:01] <jrwren_> sql statements?
[14:02] <jrwren_> have you considered repository pattern?
[14:27] <snap-l> jrwren_: Have you considered this code is over 3 years old with multiple authors and I'm on a deadline. ;)
[14:28] <jrwren_> yes
[14:29] <rick_h> lol, always leave the code better than you found it. Works on code and on bathrooms
[14:30] <jrwren_> the reason i ask, is that I don't see manager pattern mentioned in GoF or PoEAA
[14:30] <jrwren_> ha! I should teach my daughter that.
[14:31] <rick_h> jrwren_: so he's talking about something like the django manager orm bits
[14:31] <rick_h> jrwren_: in sqlalchemy I use stuff like https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/blob/develop/bookie/models/__init__.py#L118 to contain any non-instance related methods/helpers/etc
[14:32] <rick_h> jrwren_: so not really a GoF, but a organization method vs pattern
[14:33] <jrwren_> in the .net world we consider that an antipattern, at least somewhat.
[14:33] <brousch> I usually use the Fuckit Pattern
[14:33] <jrwren_> brousch: fuckit usually leads to pizza or spaghetti
[14:34] <jrwren_> maybe some chinese takeout
[14:34] <brousch> Yum
[14:34] <rick_h> jrwren_: why an anti-pattern?
[14:35] <jrwren_> is it an alchemy-ism because you don't define your data class like you do in django?
[14:36] <jrwren_> I'm not familiar enough to alchemy to say if it is the same antipattern from .net. I think it is not.
[14:36] <rick_h> jrwren_: honestly it's something I do myself just because I hate having Model.method_one doing stuff that's really nothing to do with Model the instance/etc.
[14:37] <jrwren_> rick_h: honestly, after studying that TagMgr class for a few minutes, it is a case of Repository pattern :)
[14:37] <rick_h> jrwren_: and helps clean up what methods a model allows on an instance vs thinsg that you can do but have nothing to do with it.
[14:37] <jrwren_> yes, exactly, understood.
[14:37] <jrwren_> fowler calls that Repository pattern
[14:37] <rick_h> https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/blob/develop/bookie/models/__init__.py#L353 and https://github.com/mitechie/Bookie/blob/develop/bookie/models/__init__.py#L594 for a better example
[14:37] <snap-l> jrwren_: Chalk it up to me using the word pattern loosely.
[14:38]  * rick_h goes to look it up
[14:38] <jrwren_> use english :)
[14:38] <snap-l> fuck dat sheeet.
[14:38] <jrwren_> http://www.martinfowler.com/eaaCatalog/repository.html
[14:38] <rick_h> jrwren_: yea, this looks right
[14:38] <jrwren_> its veyr close.
[14:39] <rick_h> jrwren_: and since SqlAlchemy uses full data mapper it probably fits nicer than some things
[14:39] <jrwren_> I think maybe its not repostiory because by inheriting from Base the objects can still save/udpate themselves.
[14:39] <jrwren_> the Repository is usually responsible for that.
[14:39] <snap-l> All I know is it's another reason rick_h is right
[14:39] <rick_h> jrwren_: yea, but you still need to use the Session to save/update in sqlalchemy
[14:40] <rick_h> jrwren_: so maybe the session is a bit of repository really
[14:40]  * rick_h hasn't done his required pattern reading in a long while.
[14:40] <jrwren_> nor have I
[14:40] <jrwren_> I really only recall a few
[14:41] <snap-l> John keeps threatening us with going through the gang of four book
[14:41] <jrwren_> I recall SqlAlchemy being a DataMapper
[14:41] <rick_h> jrwren_: yea, so model.query is an instanced of an associated Session object
[14:41] <jrwren_> tehre is certainly no reason there cannot be many of these patterns.
[14:41] <snap-l> honestly, the patterns stuff just feels like taxonomy, and I couldn't care less what the correct word for something is.
[14:41] <rick_h> jrwren_: so the ModelMgr is doing the querying through that Session (repository) and returning result sets and then the model instances are smaller/simpler/lighter and only deal with instance info
[14:42] <snap-l> or what one programming culture calls something
[14:42] <rick_h> snap-l: but it's handy for talking. It'd have been simpler if you'd said "man I'm glad this code went to the repository pattern" and jrwren_ would have followed from the start and said "hells to the yea"
[14:42] <jrwren_> thanks for clarifying. I get it.
[14:42] <jrwren_> and I take it all back.
[14:42] <jrwren_> I think it is just a behavior type.
[14:42] <snap-l> rick_h: Agreed
[14:43] <jrwren_> you've isolated common behavior for that model type.
[14:43] <rick_h> jrwren_: yea, cool. I kind of tought this layout at my Sqlalchemy tutorial at PyOhio a while back and would hate to be teaching an anti-pattern
[14:43] <jrwren_> definitely not an antipattern.
[14:43] <rick_h> so was curious in being corrected :)
[14:43] <snap-l> rick_h: The code I'm looking at is definitely an anti-pattern. :)
[14:43] <jrwren_> its good stuff, I was just trying to understand.
[14:43] <rick_h> snap-l: lol yea I don't even have to look at it to know that :)
[14:44] <snap-l> I believe it's called the "sql blender" anti-pattern. (and don't correct me if it isn't ccalled that because reasons).
[14:44] <rick_h> snap-l: yea, I fought hard to try to get a rule that no controller should ever ever do Session.query.
[14:45] <rick_h> but I'm going to guess there's still a lot of that around
[14:45] <snap-l> Well, there's lots of old code getting C/P into new code
[14:45] <snap-l> thus creating the maxim: Old code never dies, it just gets copied.
[14:45] <rick_h> hah
[14:46] <rick_h> http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/carrier-advisory-group :( no us unless you count DT I guess
[14:46] <rick_h>  /us/U.S./
[14:47] <snap-l> http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130618/CARNEWS/130619824
[14:47] <rick_h> ok, first camping trip in the new camper set for this weekend. What's the over/under for the number of disasters encountered?
[14:47] <rick_h> snap-l: yea, saw that the other day. Makes a lot of sense. I like how my touareg has a mix of hard button and touch screen
[14:48] <rick_h> especially with the slow touch screen tech used in these things
[14:48] <brousch> rick_h: Where are you going?
[14:48] <snap-l> Yeah, honestly when I was looking at cars I wanted to like the Ford Sync
[14:48] <snap-l> bit it felt a little clunky
[14:48] <snap-l> (nevermind that it rebooted while I was taking the test drive)
[14:48] <rick_h> brousch: http://www.destinationoakland.com/parksandtrails/campgrounds/addisonoaks/Pages/default.aspx 30min away for a nice close safe initial voyage
[14:48] <rick_h> snap-l: lol, that would suck
[14:49] <snap-l> rick_h: First trip isn't the one that all of the problems happen
[14:49] <rick_h> brousch: but will be up by alpena for the 4th, cadillac for aug, and in VA for sept.
[14:49] <snap-l> it's the second trip that the universe conspires against. :)
[14:49] <brousch> 87 and humid. Does the camper have AC?
[14:49] <rick_h> snap-l: then I'm screwed :P but at least we'll be up north with family
[14:49] <rick_h> brousch: why yes...yes it does :)
[14:49] <brousch> nice
[14:50] <snap-l> Knowing rick_h, it'll auto level and set up satellite internet with a make command
[14:50] <brousch> make campsite
[14:50] <rick_h> snap-l: hah, no.  But I'm going to sign up for an indoor storage place tomorrow
[14:54] <snap-l> yeah, that's what I thought
[14:54] <snap-l> jrwren_: liking the mix on digital gunfire at the moment
[14:56] <ColonelPanic001> damn. I haven't listened to DG in ages
[14:56] <ColonelPanic001> I have to do that today
[14:58] <rick_h> snap-l: so according to the twp ordinances here I can park it in my driveway as long as I don't hit the street with it
[14:58] <rick_h> snap-l: and it can't have permanent hookups to sewer/electrical/etc
[14:59] <brousch> Don't be that guy!
[14:59] <rick_h> heh, I don't want it sitting in the sun when I'm not using it so it won't be there much for sure.
[15:00] <rick_h> brousch: http://www.generalrv.com/inventory/286100/New-2014-Jayco-Jay-Feather-Ultra-Lite-X23B.aspx is what we're getting
[15:00] <rick_h> now to setup a camping bookie sprint lol
[15:00] <brousch> looks like my brother's. They really like it
[15:01] <rick_h> yea, I'm excited. I think it'll make for some good times with the boy at the current age and such
[15:16] <trevlar> I loved camping with my family when I was little
[15:16] <trevlar> definitely get one of these. my favorite camping accessory :) http://r1.coleman.com/ProductImages/Full/822-707T_500.jpg
[15:17] <brousch> I don't like camping
[15:24] <snap-l> JoDee doesn't like to camp. I don't mind it, having grown up with it.
[15:24] <rick_h> I've got visions of bookie hacking under an awning in some woods :)
[15:27] <jrwren_> my back yard is close enough to camping for me :p
[15:27] <jrwren_> i'm just getting use to house living instead of apt. living.
[15:28] <snap-l> jrwren_: Getting used to having to mow?
[15:28] <snap-l> Or do they hve an ordinance against grass growing there? :)
[15:35] <jrwren_> hired it out
[15:35] <jrwren_> i choose to skip that part of life
[15:37] <rick_h> lol of the day https://twitter.com/benbangert/status/347014183692410880
[15:50] <snap-l> rick_h: ++
[17:05] <snap-l> BTW: The BrickPip project funded with $127k
[17:05] <snap-l> s/BrickPip/BrickPi/
[17:14] <jrwren_> snap-l: did you see the A23 kickstarter?
[17:21] <snap-l> No, what is it?
[17:21] <snap-l> Assemblage 23?
[17:24] <jrwren_> yes
[17:25] <snap-l> Really wish this was CC licensed. ;)
[17:28] <snap-l> but only because I'd love to play assemblage 23 on the podcast.
[17:29] <snap-l>   I'm just happy I have Stromkern on the Mind / Body Vol. 3. ;)
[17:33] <jrwren_> stromkern put out new stuff?
[17:33] <snap-l> This is an old r.m.Industrial compilation
[17:33] <snap-l> rec.music.industrial
[17:34] <jrwren_> rmi is sitll around?
[17:34] <jrwren_> i read rmi a few times back in the 90s
[17:34] <snap-l> http://www.discogs.com/Various-Mind-Body-Compilation-Volume-3/release/812293
[17:35] <snap-l> I also have Stromkern's Light it Up album in digital form
[17:35] <snap-l> added more to my wishlist.
[17:35] <jrwren_> good album
[17:36] <snap-l> Yeah, it's great mowing music. :)
[17:37] <snap-l> http://www.discogs.com/Stromkern-Light-It-Up/master/41534
[17:44] <greg-g> jrwren_: whoa, your retweet just blew my mind
[17:44] <greg-g> the madonna one
[18:07] <jrwren_> :)
[18:08] <greg-g> and now I'm reading the rape story and disgusted
[18:14] <jrwren_> brave writing.
[18:14] <jrwren_> i need to start saving these and have my daughter read them when she is older
[18:19] <greg-g> ditto re my son
[18:24] <snap-l> I don't understand how someone could do that (was re: the rape story)
[18:24] <jrwren_> sociopaths are around :(
[18:25] <jrwren_> the scary part to me is that the same person was functional enough to have a professional job.
[18:27] <greg-g> right, if you're in an org of any size, really, you're working with someone who would do/has done this (chances are)
[18:29] <jrwren_> scary
[18:29] <snap-l> There's something to be said for consensual. :)
[18:30] <jrwren_> ha!
[18:32] <jrwren_> i REALLY need to get to know make better.
[18:32] <jrwren_> https://github.com/mbostock/world-atlas/blob/master/Makefile
[18:34] <snap-l> And I'm pretty sure "am I going to rot in prison for killing this asshole" is not the kind of sexy-time pillowtalk that most folks crave.
[18:36] <jrwren_> rule54?
[18:36] <jrwren_> but certainly not "most folks"
[18:37] <snap-l> I think you mean Rule 34
[18:37] <snap-l> which probably means there's porn of someone out there using the Make command.
[18:37] <jrwren_> oh, yes, that.
[18:37] <jrwren_> its probably make me a sandwich porn
[18:38]  * brousch looks at rick_h's video collection
[18:39]  * rick_h unplugs the NAS from the internet real quick...
[18:39] <snap-l> "You Autocomplete Me, vol 2"
[18:39] <snap-l> "ZSH hotties from hell"
[18:40] <jrwren_> root cause analysis
[18:40] <snap-l> Here we go: Gals of Sudo: Make me
[19:37] <snap-l> I can't wait to leave this airconditioning so I can be cool outside.
[19:37] <snap-l> Ugh
[19:41] <brousch> You're cool everywhere you go, snap-l
[19:42] <snap-l> I wish. :)
[20:06] <snap-l> greg-g: Re: relicensing MySQL man pages: Fuck that shit.
[20:06] <snap-l> https://blog.mariadb.org/mysql-man-pages-silently-relicensed-away-from-gpl/
[20:08] <snap-l> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/preface.html#legalnotice
[20:09] <jrwren_> oracle!
[20:38] <greg-g> so glad WMF switched to MariaDB recently :)
[20:38] <greg-g> ef oracle
[22:25] <greg-g> snap-l: I just listened to the Allergic Reactionary episode, and uh, what an ending
[23:48] <snap-l> greg-g: You like? :)