[06:53] <kendals> thanks supermiguel, i'll try now :)
[06:53] <charlie5> tk: ah, i hope its auto ... the box has a faulty ps2 connector and only works with USB kboard after OS has booted :/
[06:54] <tk> charlie5: check the autoexec.bat file on the disk then
[06:54] <tk> its a standard txt file.... see if it lists any programs on the disk... also might want to check the manual on the flasher to see if it requires input... from keyboard
[06:54] <odyssevs> gah, dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config does it. nevermind.
[06:55] <leroy> Just curious if anyone has had luck getting XGL and Compiz to work within dapper drake? :/
[06:55] <leroy> I tried all day, nothing :(  Found all sorts of articles..
[06:55] <Ademan> when i try to open a word *.doc all it displays is "Your browser does not support frames" what should I do?
[06:55] <noiesmo> Lerusing it now
[06:55] <noiesmo> leroy, using it now
[06:55] <wayney> I'm having problems getting 915resolution to display @ 1920X1200, can someone please help me? I've tried the wiki + forums to no avail :(
[06:55] <roughtrader> man I just watched Ju-on and Ju-on 2 today. talk about creepy
[06:55] <theunruled> Hello everyone. I am looking for a text based messenger, something like centericq, but better
[06:55] <leroy> noie> what's your trick man...
[06:55] <charlie5> tk: i don't think an autoexec.bat came with the flash files ... only the flash.exe & its data
[06:56] <charlie5> tk: i should be able to manually write one though ? ... its just a matter of calling the falsh utility exe, isn;t it ?
[06:56] <asabil> Ademan, clicking on a link ?
[06:57] <noiesmo> leroy, no trick here's my guide http://forum.beryl-project.org/post-44103#p44103
[06:58] <leroy> noiesmo> Ati or Nvidia?
[06:58] <tk> charlie5: depends on the flash program :P and yes, just name a file autoexec.bat and put "flash.exe"" in it... or whatever the flasher is
[06:58] <noiesmo> on nvidia now but have had ati as well leroy
[06:58] <tk> afk
[06:58] <leroy> nice.  :)
[06:59] <noiesmo> leroy, the guides for 32bit
[06:59] <charlie5> tk: great ... thanks for the help :D
[06:59] <Ademan> asabil: no this is with openoffice
[06:59] <noiesmo> leroy, don't want to know about 64bit its a bit painful
[07:00] <leroy> damn
[07:00] <leroy> im running 64bit
[07:00] <leroy> :(
[07:00] <asabil> weird :/ could you complain to the person who sent you the .doc ?
[07:00] <leroy> maybe i should downgrade
[07:00] <asabil> and ask for an odf
[07:00] <kendals> Bah! I still can't get OSX to access my SMB share from Ubuntu :(
[07:00] <noiesmo> leroy, its doable but check the beryl forum there's sure to be a 64bit guide
[07:00] <kendals> IT keeps telling me the user thing couldn't authenticate
[07:00] <kendals> When it's the correct username and password!
[07:01] <leroy> well can i downgrade to 32bit?
[07:01] <leroy> :(
[07:02] <noiesmo> leroy, yeah suppose
[07:02] <leroy> i could just format the partition and reinstall since this is new, right?  im just afraid i won't be able to get back into xp (dual booting) LOL
[07:02] <leroy> Does Ubuntu mess with the MBR?
[07:02] <noiesmo> leroy, i think the tricks to get graphics driver working first then xgl etc
[07:02] <leroy> how can I test to see if they are working?
[07:03] <noiesmo> leroy, ubuntu will pick up your win install and adjust mbr
[07:03] <leroy> anything , like a test opengl thing?
[07:03] <leroy> ah :p
[07:03] <noiesmo> leroy, you ati or nvidia
[07:03] <leroy> ati
[07:03] <leroy> :(
[07:03] <leroy> it's a laptop
[07:03] <ChocoCid> it's sad that that one particular question keeps having to get asked :(
[07:04] <noiesmo> ChocoCid, yes and I just want to run and hide when ati the answer
[07:04] <deadly_venom> I've just re-installed Ubuntu (Clean Install) .. 5 min of use, it  tells me, I have 43 updates .. Should I update it ALL .. or .. ?
[07:04] <ChocoCid> sure, deadly_venom
[07:04] <theunruled> update them
[07:04] <noiesmo> leroy, are you on fglrx driver
[07:04] <ChocoCid> unlike That Other Os there's no reason not to update here
[07:04] <leroy> well I apt-get'd it
[07:04] <ChocoCid> i have an ati because i didn't know i'd be using linux in a year and a half when i got this computer
[07:05] <noiesmo> leroy, cat /etx/X11/xorg.conf | grep fglrx
[07:05] <leroy> that grep sure is handy :P
[07:05] <deadly_venom> But there is some, i don't think  , such as mysql-common
[07:05] <noiesmo> leroy, lsmod | grep fglrx
[07:05] <ChocoCid> there's no reason not to update it if you have it in your system
[07:05] <ChocoCid> if you want to get rid of it, uninstall it
[07:05] <JoshIRL> I have a HP pavilion a705w, the processor is a 2.93 ghz intel celeron (R) and it wont install ubuntu, why? It gets to the beggining at booting the kernel (right after you click start) and it just kills the pc, and reboots.. helpy?
[07:05] <ChocoCid> hrm
[07:05] <ChocoCid> which install disc did you get?
[07:05] <noiesmo> leroy, you should see something like fglrx 457032 63
[07:05] <leroy> it says it's there
[07:05] <noiesmo> agpgart 34888 2 fglrx,via_agp
[07:05] <ChocoCid> i386 or what?
[07:05] <JoshIRL> Drapper..
[07:06] <JoshIRL> I've tried drapper and breezy
[07:06] <JoshIRL> oh
[07:06] <ChocoCid> no, not dapper, but the precise version
[07:06] <JoshIRL> Uhm
[07:06] <JoshIRL> the one off the site :P
[07:06] <ChocoCid> if you tried an AMD installer on the pentium chip that'll be a problem
[07:06] <Coir> anyone have reccs for a good ftp server? I am just going to be using it as a local server since it's faster than fpt.
[07:06] <Coir> er
[07:06] <Coir> sftp
[07:06] <JoshIRL> Amd installer?
[07:06] <ChocoCid> what's the naem of your iso?
[07:06] <nickv111> Whenever I try to compile applications it says, "Checking for X. No." What developer packages to I need to install?
[07:06] <JoshIRL> give me a second.
[07:06] <ChocoCid> AMD is a different brand of computer processor manufacturer
[07:06] <JoshIRL> :x
[07:07] <leroy> yeah it says 452468, noiesmo
[07:07] <vanhtu1987> Hi, will anyone answer this question please ? How come my news reader ([r] tin) returns no news group for what ever (valid) news server I specified through NNTSERVER ?
[07:07] <asabil> JoshIRL, there are 3 supported arch by ububtu : x86, a64 and ppc
[07:07] <azureal> hi, i've managed to cause an X error when i upgraded to edgy
[07:07] <JoshIRL> i downloaded.. uh
[07:07] <JoshIRL> ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[07:07] <noiesmo> leroy, join #ubuntu-xgl if you want help with doing compiz but I don't have the right sources for 64bit
[07:07] <ChocoCid> hrm, that's the right one, then
[07:07] <hadrion> #ubuntu-xgl is dead
[07:07] <AWOSDev> I'm having a problem with OpenOffice 2.0.2 Writer.  It freezes when I attempt to import an image.
[07:08] <JoshIRL> Any idea why else it might be?
[07:08] <AWOSDev> I tried #OpenOffice.org to no avail
[07:08] <noiesmo> leroy, maybe dbo can help with that info he's an admin and very very helpful
[07:08] <azureal> it said "no screens found" ... one old forum post suggests "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" .. do you guys agree? or any other ideas?
[07:08] <ChocoCid> do you have it installed, JoshIRL ?
[07:08] <kate> !sudo
[07:08] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:08] <ChocoCid> or, you mean booting the livecd?
[07:08] <JoshIRL> no, i'm on my living room pc
[07:08] <azureal> plus, i think my sources might all be messed up
[07:08] <JoshIRL> i've tried both
[07:08] <asabil> AWOSDev, is it a copy paste from a website ?
[07:08] <ChocoCid> it crashes booting the livecd?
[07:08] <JoshIRL> and a older version of ubuntu
[07:08] <JoshIRL> they all crash at booting the kernel.... ok
[07:08] <AWOSDev> asabil, the picture?  No I made it myself in KolourPaint.
[07:08] <JoshIRL> yes
[07:08] <JoshIRL> and the install
[07:09] <asabil> AWOSDev, ok, so I don;t know sorry
[07:09] <ChocoCid> i don't know about things at that level, someone else might though
[07:09] <noiesmo> leroy, I gotta head off for a bit now thou but check the forum here http://forum.beryl-project.org
[07:09] <ChocoCid> i tend to only know stuff i've had problems with :|
[07:09] <leroy> thanks man :)
[07:09] <JoshIRL> dang, thanks anyways
[07:09] <noiesmo> leroy, np :)
[07:09] <hadrion> i cant get both cedega and beryl to work at the same time
[07:09] <ChocoCid> heh
[07:09] <hadrion> is there any way to start a second XGL server?
[07:09] <ChocoCid> beryl doesn't work reliably enough to be reliable :\
[07:10] <hadrion> works fine for me
[07:10] <azureal> nvm, i think i've found a solution here http://enterprise.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/23/137206&tid=129
[07:10] <JoshIRL> I have a HP pavilion a705w, the processor is a 2.93 ghz intel celeron (R) and it wont install ubuntu, why? It gets to the beggining at booting the kernel (right after you click start) and it just kills the pc, and reboots.. helpy?
[07:10] <azureal> <for my prob>
[07:10] <JoshIRL> ^anyone else wanna take a stab?
[07:10] <noiesmo> hadrion, i use seperate session for that loading normal X at login and not xgl
[07:10] <hadrion> the seperate sessions dont appear to work
[07:10] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL, hmm, throttle the CPU down if you can
[07:10] <asabil> JoshIRL, I might suggest to turn off acpi
[07:10] <hadrion> I'm using a gdm.conf-custom method
[07:10] <JoshIRL> I have tried asabil
[07:10] <JoshIRL> aw0sdev, english?
[07:10] <JoshIRL> :P
[07:11] <noiesmo> hadrion, no you cant use gdm.conf-custom as then your running xgl all the time
[07:11] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL make it slower than 2.93GHz
[07:11] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL, is it desktop or laptop?
[07:11] <JoshIRL> Well, yes, i got that much, but how.
[07:11] <asabil> JoshIRL, acpi
[07:11] <JoshIRL> Desk
[07:11] <hadrion> I cant get it to wor any other way
[07:11] <hadrion> cant even put the stuff in gdm.conf
[07:11] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL, in the BIOS setup does it have a "timer" or "bus speed" option?
[07:11] <noiesmo> hadrion, you need to use stock gdm with normal X
[07:11] <JoshIRL> I don't think so. i'm not on that pc atm, but i don't recall it
[07:11] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL, that's the letter o not number 0 in my nick :)
[07:11] <hadrion> and start xgl manually?
[07:12] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL what's the model name again?
[07:12] <JoshIRL> Sorry
[07:12] <JoshIRL> of the pc or proc?
[07:12] <hadrion> when i put it into te normal gdm.conf it stops working
[07:12] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL I assume it's a Pentium 4 for the processor, the PC
[07:12] <JoshIRL> Hp pavilion a705w is the pc model
[07:12] <JoshIRL> 2.93 ghz intel celeron (r) is the processor
[07:12] <noiesmo> hadrion, here check this about half way down page http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-205-5.html
[07:12] <hadrion> k
[07:12] <asabil> JoshIRL, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/45141-i-cant-get-debian-installed-booting-problems.html
[07:13] <noiesmo> hadrion, i show how to do what i'm trying to tell you
[07:13] <asabil> JoshIRL, http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=944409&admit=-682735245+1160197931151+28353475
[07:13] <JoshIRL> wow, good eye asa lol
[07:13] <asabil> basically your hardware is not linux friendly
[07:13] <noiesmo> hadrion, it needs to be tweaked if you using beryl-manager
[07:13] <hadrion> I do..
[07:14] <hadrion> im in gnome as well
[07:14] <JoshIRL> hmm
[07:14] <JoshIRL> looks like i can't have linux on it
[07:14] <JoshIRL> Oh well.
[07:14] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL, I pity you
[07:14] <JoshIRL> I pity me too
[07:14] <JoshIRL> It's ok, cause i got ubuntu on this pc lol
[07:14] <AWOSDev> and what idiot at HP did *that*?
[07:14] <JoshIRL> guess that one gets windows, once i find a 95 disk :P
[07:14] <JoshIRL> there's no way to bypass it?
[07:15] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL, ooh you're gonna likey 95 on that hardware, I know I've tried :)
[07:15] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL, nope.
[07:15] <harrism> Hello all, I just got return to castle wolfenstein (not et) running through wine but I have no sound. I try killall esd but terminal says "no process killed" any ideas?
[07:15] <JoshIRL> That's silly. =-P
[07:15] <JoshIRL> Oh well, thanks a bunch for your help guys.  Using exim4.. what have I done wrong?
[07:18] <AWOSDev> mneptok, LOL I was just wondering if you knew
[07:19] <deadly_venom> anyone Good with ndiswrapper ?
[07:19] <AWOSDev> deadly_venom, well I can get it running but not with Wifi
[07:19] <ajmitch> odyssevs: using the standard configuration with debconf?
[07:19] <odyssevs> ajmitch, yep.
[07:19] <ajmitch> edit /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf, add your domain to dc_other_hostnames
[07:20] <ajmitch> sudo update-exim4.conf
[07:20] <harrism> can anyone shed light on how to get sound working in RTCW? I have checked the forums but just find into on enemy territory.. I am running the game though wine and have no sound
[07:20] <deadly_venom> AWOSDev Hold on, sorry.
[07:20] <asabil> anyone managed to get grub working on macbook ?
[07:20] <ajmitch> odyssevs: it *should* honour the usual mailname, but I found that it didn't the other day for me
[07:20] <wrabbit^> is there a way to clean up my install with a "repair"(just to remove all the unwanted crap) without losing the documents in /home/username?
[07:20] <ajmitch> & so I found I needed to add it there
[07:20] <odyssevs> ajmitch, nope, doesn't like this.
[07:21] <Madpilot> harrism, isn't there a Linux-native version of RTCW like there is of ET? No need for wine...
[07:21] <ajmitch> odyssevs: you can test locally with sudo exim4 -d -bt username@domain
[07:21] <odyssevs> I can send mail locally. But through my ISP email account, my server returns the 550 error.
[07:21] <ajmitch> to test the mail routing
[07:21] <deadly_venom> Alright, I'm back AWOSDev ..
[07:21] <AWOSDev> So does anybody know what could be wrong with OOwriter 2.0.2?
[07:21] <ajmitch> interesting
[07:22] <AWOSDev> deadly_venom are you registered with freenode?
[07:22] <JoshIRL> im back
[07:22] <harrism> Madpilot.. really? didn't know that :P is it free?
[07:22] <JoshIRL> i couldn't find a place on my ubuntu 6.06 drapper disk to put in the command to disable acpi.
[07:22] <deadly_venom> AWOSDev:  nop,, why? Do i have to?:
[07:22] <harrism> I have et already but didn't know there was also RTCW
[07:22] <AWOSDev> deadly_venom no I was just asking, we could do the pm thing but that's alright
[07:22] <AWOSDev> deadly_venom what is wrong with your ndiswrapper?
[07:22] <Madpilot> harrism, I know ET is free to download; I think RTCW is payware, but if you have the Windows version you might be able to grab the Linux installer for it
[07:23] <deadly_venom> AWOSDev:  since I'm going to be here most of the time, sure :)
[07:23] <asabil> JoshIRL, F6 ?
[07:23] <JoshIRL> On the ubuntu 6.06 drapper disk, where can i put the command to disable acpi? The only optikons i see are the 'install' 'install safe mode' 'check disk for' and 'memtest'
[07:23] <JoshIRL> nope
[07:23] <odyssevs> ajmitch, eh. I've done sudo /etc/init.d/exim4 reload - and now I receive no errors (and don't receive the mail either.)
[07:23] <deadly_venom> How do i register? .. in DALnet it was /ns register nick password email
[07:23] <Madpilot> deadly_venom, /msg nickserv register help
[07:23] <JoshIRL> i dont think so asabil, brb again lol
[07:24] <asabil> JoshIRL, there are switches on th bottom : F1, F2 ....
[07:24] <AWOSDev> asabil, I thought that was on RedHat, I never saw that on Ubuntu
[07:24] <harrism> that is an idea, but I wonder if there is a way I can get sound with what I have now :/ since I got it running and all.
[07:24] <deadly_venom> Mad
[07:24] <deadly_venom> Madpilot:  how do i change my password?
[07:24] <stonarmusic> sudo passwd username
[07:24] <Madpilot> deadly_venom, I can't remember offhand - thru nickserv, though - /msg nickserv help
[07:25] <asabil> there are switches to change resolution, language ...
[07:25] <deadly_venom> -- /msg nickserv register help .. registered my pass as help, lol..
[07:25] <Madpilot> deadly_venom, assuming you mean 'pw in Freenode', that is
[07:25] <charlie5> is cmos the same as bios ? ... i re-flashed bios, but still get a cmos checksum error :/
[07:25] <deadly_venom> Madpilot:  you told me /msg nickserv register help :(
[07:26] <ChocoCid> then change your password :P
[07:26] <Madpilot> deadly_venom, yeah, sorry... my mistake. "/msg nickserv help" gets the main nickserv help thing
[07:26] <odyssevs> ajmitch, /var/log/exim4/mainlog has `2006-10-07 06:22:47 1GW4e7-00027G-8y ==<EMAIL_ADDRESS>R=userforward defer (-1): failed to stat /home/barry/. (No such file or directory)`
[07:27] <deadly_venom> since you typed nickserv register help, i've registered my nick with the password help .. i just want to change the password at the moment
[07:27] <odyssevs> ajmitch I created this user with --no-create-home.
[07:27] <AWOSDev> deadly_venom: /msg NickServ SET PASSWORD <newpassword>
[07:27] <JoshIRL> yes :D!
[07:27] <JoshIRL> It's loading ubuntu live atm :D
[07:27] <unfknblvbl> what app can i use to convert mp3 to ogg ?
[07:27] <wrabbit^> Is there a way to "repair and clean" my installation without having to a) reinstall and b)lose the saved stuff in /home/username?\
[07:27] <JoshIRL> I love you guys :D
[07:27] <JoshIRL> Thanks.
[07:27] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL really?  Coolness!
[07:28] <JoshIRL> Yeah
[07:28] <JoshIRL> =)
[07:28] <JoshIRL> i hope it lets me isntall
[07:28] <JoshIRL> install*
[07:28] <JoshIRL> if it does, i'm good. :D
[07:28] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL yeah, you'll love Ubuntu.  I know I do :)
[07:28] <ajmitch> odyssevs: ah right, so you'll need to setup exim so that it doesn't try that :)
[07:28] <JoshIRL> i've used it before :P
[07:28] <JoshIRL> i do love it
[07:29] <JoshIRL> Well, i didn't have it too long, but it was definately the best free os or linux i used.
[07:29] <AWOSDev> JoshIRL oh LOL
[07:29] <deadly_venom> AWOSDev:  got my msg ?
[07:29] <JoshIRL> :P
[07:29] <JoshIRL> Thanks guys, imma go finish installing :)
[07:30] <AWOSDev> deadly_venom yeah sorry :)
[07:30] <Madpilot> !enter
[07:30] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:30] <asabil> JoshIRL, don'ti forget to disable acpi in your grub.conf after install
[07:31] <odyssevs> ajmitch, the exim setup page under debconf is seriously misworded. The page for accepting mail for OTHER local domains gave me the impression it had already taken into account the main domain.
[07:31] <PyroMithrandir> anyone here know if  Ubuntu is going to switch Firefox for IceWeasel?
[07:31] <ajmitch> odyssevs: yes, that's what I thought
[07:32] <unfknblvbl> IceWeasel ?
[07:32] <AWOSDev> PyroMithrandir, sadly I don't think Ubuntu will be changing from Firefox any time soon :(
[07:32] <unfknblvbl> !IceWeasel
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about IceWeasel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <odyssevs> ajmitch, not happy about it needing a /home/ entry for a given user.
[07:32] <JDStone> If I create a software RAID array, will I lose my data that's already on one of the drives?
[07:32] <PyroMithrandir> http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/
[07:32] <AWOSDev> I have no clue what IceWeasel is but anything's better than Firefox  (whole channel gasps)
[07:32] <ajmitch> odyssevs: I think it expects a home dir if the user is local to the system
[07:32] <PyroMithrandir> IceWeasel is firefox without the logo and name
[07:33] <odyssevs> ajmitch, exim3 didn't need that. I used the /etc/aliases file.
[07:33] <ajmitch> you can set it up with virtual users without too many hassles
[07:33] <ermak> hi all, can anyone help to configure sound fot tv-tuner? picture is fine and all chanells have been found, but there is NO SOUND at all
[07:33] <ajmitch> however I wasn't dealing with that too much recently :)
[07:33] <odyssevs> Linux is really very traumatising for the casual user.
[07:34] <PyroMithrandir> Mozilla got mad at debian for using the Firefox name but not the logo (which wasn't free as in freedom), and said "Use the name and logo or neither"
[07:34] <ajmitch> the casual user probably wouldn't be setting up exim
[07:34] <PyroMithrandir> and so we have "Gnuzilla" and "IceWeasel"
[07:34] <odyssevs> PyroMithrandir, I went off Mozilla long ago.
[07:35] <Eclypse> sup all
[07:35] <PyroMithrandir> well, I'm still using Firefox, and I am curious if Ubuntu is going to switch to IceWeasel, because I think it is a terrible name
[07:35] <AWOSDev> opposite of Firefox though :)
[07:36] <hadrion> the script for xgl/beryl isnt working
[07:36] <Eclypse> anyone know when Edgy is comming out?
[07:36] <PyroMithrandir> !edgy
[07:36] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[07:36] <PyroMithrandir> !schedule
[07:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[07:36] <Flannel> Eclypse: 28th, I believe.
[07:36] <charlie5> can you play windows .wmv movies on linux ?
[07:37] <charlie5> with kaffeine, i mean
[07:37] <aum> charlie5, yes, get mplayer
[07:37] <AWOSDev> charlie5, I use VLC
[07:37] <JoshIRL> or lan
[07:37] <charlie5> aum: ok, thanks
[07:37] <JoshIRL> i mean
[07:37] <JoshIRL> vlc, yes.
[07:37] <JoshIRL> Vlc also plays mp3s and most other formats from windows.
[07:37] <aum> charlie5, mplayer handles virtually all known formats
[07:38] <Eclypse> Flannel of this month? :O
[07:38] <Flannel> Eclypse: it's 6.10, so yes.
[07:38] <Eclypse> right on
[07:39] <Eclypse> I like the fact that the boot screens will be full resolution :D
[07:39] <Eclypse> doesn't it boot up faster too?
[07:39] <odyssevs> ajmitch, how much do you know about email?
[07:40] <Flannel> Eclypse: yeah, with upstart.  However, edgy questions really belong in #ubuntu+1
[07:40] <Eclypse> bah
[07:40] <Eclypse> I don't see why
[07:40] <Eclypse> kinda inneffecient
[07:40] <Eclypse> I can understand xgl/compiz
[07:40] <Eclypse> oh well '
[07:40] <Eclypse> w/e
[07:41] <ChocoCid> it does boot up slightly faster for me than dapper did
[07:41] <ChocoCid> it's a minor difference though
[07:42] <hockyhair> has anyone used xmame in ubuntu
[07:42] <ChocoCid> right now i have a love/hate relationship with beryl though, it looks awesome as hell but damn, it needs to stop randomly crashing
[07:42] <fluxinator> is edgy usable? meaning Is it stable enough to install?
[07:42] <ChocoCid> * Topic for #ubuntu+1 is: Welcome to #ubuntu+1! | Welcome our new AIGLX overlords. (unless you use nvidia or fglrx) | Edgy is not stable, it is for development only.  Do not use this on production machines.  Does anyone read the topic anyway?  Edgy still contains many bugs!
[07:42] <|chris3|> sethk: you up still?
[07:42] <mnepton> fluxinator: depends on your usage. if it's your primary desktop, i would recommend against it.
[07:42] <ajmitch> odyssevs: enough to get by
[07:43] <ChocoCid> it runs for me, but i've also got dual boot set up
[07:43] <JoshIRL> mnepton.
[07:43] <fluxinator> mnepton thanks
[07:43] <JoshIRL> I got linux installing on my other pc, thanks bunches =)
[07:43] <mnepton> arr?
[07:43] <mnepton> JoshIRL: sexcellente.
[07:43] <ChocoCid> nice. what was the problem?
[07:43] <JoshIRL> acpi
[07:43] <ChocoCid> hrm
[07:43] <ChocoCid> !acpi
[07:43] <JoshIRL> acpi=off let it boot. :s
[07:43] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[07:44] <ChocoCid> hrm...
[07:44] <JoshIRL> i'm just hoping it all installs clean
[07:44] <ChocoCid> laptop?
[07:44] <JoshIRL> and i have no further problems
[07:44] <JoshIRL> PC
[07:44] <ChocoCid> ah
[07:44] <ChocoCid> i see
[07:44] <ChocoCid> wikipedia is hotness :P
[07:44] <JoshIRL> Since i got this far, the acpi problem should be done, correct?
[07:44] <kruznix> does anyone know the name of the Wireless Manager that's included with Ubuntu and if it's available for other Distributions?
[07:44] <JoshIRL> No more kernel booting problems? :shutters:
[07:44] <kruznix> GUI wireless manager
[07:44] <ChocoCid> uh
[07:45] <Flannel> kruznix: you mean ndiswrapper? or what? (I have no gui, and no wireless, so Im taking a shot in the dark)
[07:45] <ChocoCid> no
[07:45] <ChocoCid> that's not it
[07:45] <mnepton> JoshIRL: you'll want to look into the menu.lst defaults. you can put kernel args in there that will get appended to new kernel updates. so put "acpi=off" in the right defaults line, and all kernel upgrades get that switch applied. the trick is, you *don't* uncomment that defaults line. weird.
[07:45] <odyssevs> gtkndis or something
[07:45] <odyssevs> ndisgui
[07:45] <ChocoCid> i know what he's talking about , i just can't think of the name
[07:45] <Flannel> kruznix: if that's not a gui, it's probably a gnome something or other, in which case, it's a gnome thing, and in other distros
[07:45] <odyssevs> apt-cache search for it
[07:45] <kruznix> Flannel well if you are running xorg/x11/xfree86 whutever you want to call it
[07:45] <ChocoCid> ndisgtk
[07:45] <ChocoCid> that's it
[07:45] <kruznix> there's a wifi manager on ubuntu
[07:45] <hadrion> why doesn't gdm-restart work?
[07:45] <ChocoCid> <3 tab-complete
[07:45] <odyssevs> there you go
[07:45] <hockyhair> i need some help setting up gxmame, i have everything set right as far as i can tell but i can't get my games to show up (they are zip)
[07:45] <Flannel> kruznix: no, I'm running a terminal, and that's it ;)
[07:46] <kruznix> Flannel I know you are... but I'm saying IF!!
[07:46] <ChocoCid> ndisgtk seems like it should work in non-gnome stuff
[07:46] <ChocoCid> er, non-ubuntu
[07:46] <JoshIRL> what is acpi?
[07:46] <ChocoCid> Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI)
[07:46] <AWOSDev> Advanced Configuration and Power Interface
[07:46] <JoshIRL> in noob-terms
[07:46] <JoshIRL> ah
[07:47] <ChocoCid> which is why i was guessing laptop
[07:47] <AWOSDev> I actually know basical ACPI Language for my OS programming :)
[07:47] <ChocoCid> :P
[07:47] <kruznix> Flannel : i've run many boxes with no GUI, but I'm using this on a laptop with wireless.. q; and i'd like to have a gui wifi manager... and if I can't find one, i'll just code one
[07:47] <JoshIRL> :o
[07:47] <JoshIRL> brb checkin the install
[07:47] <mnepton> JoshIRL: http://www.acpi.info/
[07:47] <JoshIRL> *clicks*
[07:47] <hadrion> !gdm-restart
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm-restart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <AWOSDev> mnepton, oh please don't confuse him with the ACPI standard, heck that was hard for *me* to understand :)
[07:47] <hadrion> !gdm
[07:47] <ubotu> gdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.10-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1681 kB, installed size 11588 kB
[07:47] <mnepton> AWOSDev: hehehehe.
[07:47] <ChocoCid> heh
[07:48] <Eclypse> is it just me or is beryl-project.org not working...?
[07:48] <AWOSDev> I had to read it three times, but I finally understand it now :)
[07:48] <mnepton> AWOSDev: yay for "spec vs. implementation," which is why this sh!t breaks :/
[07:48] <Flannel> kruznix: someone gave you the answer... I dont know.  apt-cache search can probably find it too.
[07:48] <ChocoCid> forum.beryl-project.org is what you want
[07:48] <ChocoCid> also, #beryl
[07:48] <AWOSDev> mnepton yep :)
[07:48] <Flannel> hadrion: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:48] <odyssevs> mnepton, any way of working the grub approach from a floppy disk? =)
[07:48] <hadrion> thanks
[07:48] <AWOSDev> Eclypse, yes www.beryl-project.org is a blank page
[07:48] <bug_> if anyone is interested, i believe that i fixed my pioneer dvr-a09 problem..
[07:48] <kruznix> Flannel : if you would have read my original question, you would have seen i asked about other distributions for a reason... I'm running slackware 11
[07:49] <Flannel> kruznix: packages.ubuntu.com then
[07:49] <mnepton> odyssevs: restoring GRUB from floppy?
[07:49] <Eclypse> AVOSDev what's going on w/ that...lol
[07:49] <kruznix> i have to login as root to configure wlan0
[07:49] <odyssevs> Yes.
[07:49] <ChocoCid> can't use sudo? o_O
[07:49] <ChocoCid> oh, slackware
[07:49] <mnepton> odyssevs: never tried it meself. GIYF.
[07:49] <ChocoCid> it doesn't have su?
[07:49] <kruznix> q; sudo is there
[07:49] <kruznix> and su is there
[07:49] <Oswaldo> Morning all. Would anyone spend some of their time to help me a bit with fixing my internet connection on Ubuntu?
[07:50] <ChocoCid> you're on the internet now, what's the problem? ;)
[07:50] <kruznix> but I don't want to do it via console everytime and I don't feel like adding it to rc.local or anything for startup cause there are about 4 wireless networks I get on
[07:50] <kruznix> ChocoCid you jumped the gun on that question
[07:50] <Oswaldo> Umm..  I mean it. =)
[07:50] <ChocoCid> yeah, obviously, i'm joking :P
[07:50] <ChocoCid> odyssevs : GODWIN
[07:50] <Oswaldo> It's odd since the connection works with the Live CD in, but after installing it won't connect
[07:51] <mnepton> odyssevs: they're not organized enough to be fascists.
[07:51] <ChocoCid> if google is nazis, what the hell is microsoft heh
[07:51] <czer323> The us?
[07:51] <kruznix> Oswaldo how are you connecting to the internet?
[07:51] <Oswaldo> It also finds a few updates, but isn't able to download them
[07:51] <ChocoCid> Oswaldo : are you using wired or wireless?
[07:51] <Oswaldo> Wired ethernet cable connection
[07:51] <ChocoCid> hrm
[07:51] <kruznix> router, no router?
[07:51] <kruznix> type /sbin/ifconfig whut's the output for the eth0? or are you even getting an eth0?
[07:51] <ChocoCid> do you have an icon in the top right corner of your (GNOME) screen (or wherever on KDE) corresponding to your network connection?
[07:52] <ChocoCid> heh, 20 questions here
[07:52] <odyssevs> Fascism needn't be perfect. Google's censorship policies really isn't funny. Anyway, enough of the off topic.
[07:52] <Oswaldo> Not behind a router. Straight connection
[07:52] <Oswaldo> I'll boot the compy up
[07:52] <ChocoCid> odyssevs: last i heard that was china's fault, or is this something else?
[07:52] <mnepton> Oswaldo: there's a good plan ;)
[07:52] <Oswaldo> Yeah, I know :P
[07:52] <Coir> What's the way to setup MySQL name/pw?
[07:52] <JoshIRL> i gotta drag the modem into my room to download a few things so i can use the pc as my media center in my room Lol. tty guys later and thank you
[07:52] <kruznix> Oswaldo how is this connection online then? 2 cable connections? wireless with neighbors network? mobile broadband? dialup?
[07:53] <mnepton> Coir: mysql -u root -p $your_first_password
[07:53] <ChocoCid> you'll see "Connection reset by peer" in a minute, i'm betting ;)
[07:53] <kruznix> ChocoCid lol possibly
[07:53] <Coir> mnepton: don't include the '$', right?
[07:53] <AWOSDev> Coir right
[07:53] <mnepton> Coir: just put the password you want
[07:54] <Oswaldo> kruznix. There are two connections in this house. I'm using ADSL with this compy and cable with the other
[07:54] <Coir> I get an error 1045 saying access denied.
[07:54] <ChocoCid> switch them! >_>
[07:54] <kruznix> Oswaldo : good, just making sure you weren't gonna disconnect on us [;
[07:54] <blind> If I wanted to connect a windows machine and an ubuntu machine via crossover cable, can i share the internet connection between them?
[07:54] <ChocoCid> </probably a bad idea>
[07:54] <Oswaldo> Hehee, okies :)
[07:54] <kruznix> blind if the ubuntu or the windows box had 2 ethernet cards, yes
[07:55] <blind> kruznix: the ubuntu one has a wireless card, wanna share the connection with the windows box.
[07:55] <Shadowpillar> blind: get a nic for that
[07:55] <blind> I have a nic...
[07:55] <Shadowpillar> blind: or you can do the easier route
[07:55] <kruznix> blind : yeah i've setup my boxes like that... but I did it a long time ago with ipchains.. i think they replaced that with something else
[07:56] <Shadowpillar> blind: get a wireless nic for the windows box and have it connect to the router
[07:56] <Shadowpillar> and share files that way
[07:56] <blind> Shadowpillar: that costs too much money.
[07:56] <Shadowpillar> blind: not that much, if you get the right card
[07:56] <Shadowpillar> $30 or so
[07:56] <blind> 30 dollars that i don't have
[07:56] <charlie5> mmm, mplayer and vlc both won;t play this file ... maybe its corrupted
[07:56] <Shadowpillar> blind: does the router have rj-45 ports?
[07:57] <AWOSDev> charlie5 give me the link
[07:57] <blind> yes.
[07:57] <Shadowpillar> blind: as most have wireless + rj-45
[07:57] <blind> but it's upstairs, bro
[07:57] <Shadowpillar> blind: connect the windows box to the router
[07:57] <charlie5> AWOSDev: its off a cd :/
[07:57] <Shadowpillar> blind: throw the windows box up there and set up vnc
[07:57] <AWOSDev> charlie5 oh :X
[07:57] <blind> Shadowpillar: not an option.
[07:57] <AWOSDev> nvm then :)
[07:57] <Shadowpillar> blind: stealing internet? ;)
[07:57] <blind> no.
[07:58] <mnepton> blind: doesn't your WAP/router have at least one wired ethernet out?
[07:58] <kruznix> haha yeah he is q;
[07:58] <blind> it has four.
[07:58] <blind> but it's upstairs.
[07:58] <Shadowpillar> mnepton: he already answered that
[07:58] <mnepton> blind: so connect windows to that
[07:58] <kruznix> so bring it downstairs
[07:58] <blind> i can't bring it downstairs. x_x
[07:58] <Shadowpillar> how come?
[07:58] <Shadowpillar> parents?
[07:58] <kruznix> stealin
[07:58] <kruznix> lol
[07:58] <mnepton> unsuspecting neighbors?
[07:58] <mnepton> 'zackly.
[07:58] <mnepton> :P
[07:59] <blind> I'm not stealing.
[07:59] <blind> I have no cable wire in my room
[07:59] <kruznix> we're just messing with you
[07:59] <dfgas> how do i detect the monitor again? i change the monitor
[07:59] <moktod> anyone
[08:00] <Shadowpillar> moktod: apt-cache search
[08:00] <moktod> Shadowpillar: oh yeah...duh, thanks
[08:00] <blind> now how would i go about sharing the internet connection? x_x
[08:01] <rey> anyone know how to install a conexant soft modem?
[08:01] <Schalken> is it possible, that while doing ./configure, it automatically downloads any packages it needs?
[08:01] <kruznix> blind : i used ipchains before, but I think they were replaced by iptables or something else... it's been a while since i've changed a linuxbox into a router
[08:01] <mnepton> kruznix: grab one of these uber-cheap things. they work in Ubuntu, too - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833315061
[08:01] <kruznix> blind: look up iptables
[08:01] <mnepton> oh, duh
[08:02] <mnepton> blind: grab one of these uber-cheap things. they work in Ubuntu, too - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833315061
[08:02] <kruznix> mnepton : first, I use slackware 11 RC4 on this laptop
[08:02] <mnepton> sorry for the repeat. i'm drunk and the syphilis has made me insane.
[08:02] <kruznix> and... i'm not the one asking about a NIC q;
[08:02] <kruznix> nor sharing
[08:02] <kruznix> that's blind
[08:02] <blind> mnepton: i told you. I'm not buying a wireless card for this computer
[08:03] <Oswaldo> Okies! I ran ifconfig and it gave me eth0
[08:03] <mnepton> blind: then you're using iptables
[08:03] <blind> Fine by me :]
[08:03] <dfgas> anyone know how to auto setup my new monitor?
[08:03] <mnepton> Oswaldo: does eth0 have an IP address?
[08:03] <blind> dfgas: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:03] <Oswaldo> Doesn't show at least
[08:04] <mnepton> Oswaldo: sudo dhclient eth0
[08:04] <kruznix> Oswaldo does it give you an ip address?
[08:04] <AWOSDev> Okay
[08:04] <kruznix> ok
[08:04] <AWOSDev> How do I add Debian Sarge repos to Ubuntu?
[08:04] <kruznix> then do this : dhcpcd eth0
[08:04] <AWOSDev> is that even possible?
[08:05] <Madpilot> AWOSDev, sounds like a good way to break your Ubuntu
[08:05] <Shadowpillar> AWOSDev: not without huge conflicts
[08:05] <kruznix> or dhclient eth0
[08:05] <kruznix> i dunno how ubuntu does it
[08:05] <mnepton> AWOSDev: /etc/apt/sources.lst
[08:05] <AWOSDev> Madpilot, I just need the OpenOffice from it
[08:05] <mnepton> AWOSDev: and via con dios.
[08:05] <Madpilot> AWOSDev, OOo is installed by default in Ubuntu...
[08:05] <hadrion> noiesmo: Its not working... what dsplay should be standard in gdm.conf?
[08:05] <AWOSDev> I know but I'm on #openoffice.org with a problem and he says he uses Sarge and it works fine
[08:05] <Gustap0> Hi, how do i convert the cursed .lit files?
[08:06] <Gustap0> i've got several ebooks I cannot read using linux :(\
[08:06] <Madpilot> AWOSDev, good for him - but sarge repos in Ubuntu would not be fine
[08:06] <AWOSDev> Madpilot, can you help me with it then?
[08:06] <Madpilot> AWOSDev, OOo? I don't use it much, and I've never had an issue with it. Ask the channel, someone else might have better help than me.
[08:06] <kruznix> Oswaldo : try the dhclient or dhcpcd ... i gotta go. gnite
[08:07] <AWOSDev> Okay
[08:07] <Oswaldo> "No working leases in persistent database - sleeping"
[08:07] <Oswaldo> Aww..
[08:07] <Gustap0> Hi, how do i convert the cursed .lit files?
[08:07] <Gustap0> i've got several ebooks I cannot read using linux :(
[08:07] <ChocoCid> !ebook
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ebook - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <AWOSDev> In OpenOffice 2.0.2 Writer, when I click Insert->Image->From File it immediately freezes.  the taskbar freezes, all the other program menus freeze, the whole thing, until I killall -9 soffice.bin
[08:07] <mnepton> Gustap0: if someone knows, they'll answer. please don't repeat every minute.
[08:07] <ChocoCid> !reader
[08:08] <ChocoCid> blah
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <Gustap0> mnepton: sorry- I thought the msg didnt get through- so registered with nickserv and repeated
[08:09] <mnepton> Oswaldo: what is the physical connection of this machine to the internet? 10BT to a cable modem? what?
[08:09] <Madpilot> mnepton, new nick & hostmask for you?
[08:09] <Oswaldo> 10BT? Umm.. just an enternet cord to the cable modem
[08:10] <mnepton> Madpilot: just using a different host
[08:10] <jon_> this is a stunningly stupid question, but please bear with me.  i just installed the nomachine NX client (from the deb package on their website), and i can't for the life of me figure out how the heck to run the bloody thing
[08:10] <jon_> like, i don't know what the command is
[08:10] <jon_> how would i go about finding that out?
[08:10] <AWOSDev> did you try something like "man nomachine"
[08:10] <AWOSDev> or something like that?
[08:10] <AWOSDev> did it come with documentation?
[08:10] <efuzzyone> I am not able to find "System->Administration->Disks" whats the alternative or equivalent in the command line>
[08:10] <AWOSDev> efuzzyone I use qtparted
[08:11] <wickedpuppy> jon_, normally what i do is type like type the first few characters of the program and use bash auto complete to find the command
[08:11] <hockyhair> help
[08:11] <jon_> AWOSDev: possibly, but i don't know where it put the documentation either
[08:11] <AWOSDev> efuzzyone If you really want a CLI interface try fdisk
[08:11] <akano1n> hi, im new to ubuntu, i have installed in my laptop, i want to install WPA-PSK, ubuntu 6.06.1 here,  and apt-get install network-manager-gnome says that coudnt find it
[08:11] <AWOSDev> jon_ on their Web site?
[08:11] <hockyhair> lol i meant to type hello but help came out :p
[08:11] <jon_> wickedpuppy, that's what i did too, but it's not called nxAnything
[08:11] <AWOSDev> hockyhair LOL
[08:11] <efuzzyone> AWOSDev: i want something GUI based
[08:11] <AWOSDev> efuzzyone try typing "sudo qparted" in the terminal
[08:12] <hockyhair> does anyone use xmame + gxmame, i have a question about them
[08:12] <jon_> AWOSDev, it appears to be such a stupid question that it is not answered on their website
[08:12] <AWOSDev> jon_ :)
[08:12] <Oswaldo> The oddest thing about this is that the connection stops working when changing from the Live CD to the installed system
[08:13] <jon_> is there perhaps a log generated when i run dpkg that i could look at?
[08:13] <efuzzyone> AWOSDev:  i am installing it now
[08:13] <jon_> a log of what it did?
[08:13] <AWOSDev> efuzzyone okay
[08:13] <AWOSDev> jon_ uh, not that I know of, sorry
[08:13] <siTek> I can see my USB printer on the printers dialogue. I have installed the ppd driver file. I cannot print. Do I have to alter the fstab file? Create a device?
[08:13] <simpla> heyas..  Does anyone know when the final release of the Edgy Ubuntu will be out?  I have been searching, but just says October
[08:13] <wickedpuppy> jon_, less /var/log/dpkg.log
[08:13] <wickedpuppy> try this
[08:14] <hockyhair> so is anyone using mame?
[08:14] <jon_> i just found that, actually, wickedpuppy
[08:14] <wickedpuppy> LOL
[08:14] <jon_> alas, it only tells me that the package was installed
[08:14] <jon_> not what it did
[08:14] <wickedpuppy> jon_, actally in rpm its qpm -qf ... but i am not sure how it is done with dpkg
[08:15] <efuzzyone> AWOSDev: it crashes, i want something simple which can just show me the free disk space on my partitions
[08:15] <wickedpuppy> efuzzyone, df -h ?
[08:15] <Gustap0> !AAC2 Josephine Preston Peabody - The Singing Man [txt] .rar
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about AAC2 Josephine Preston Peabody - The Singing Man [txt] .rar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:16] <mnepton> efuzzyone: open a terminal. "df -h"
[08:16] <wickedpuppy> Gustap0, ...
[08:16] <efuzzyone> wickedpuppy: thanks
[08:16] <wickedpuppy> i don'y know we share files like this :P
[08:16] <wickedpuppy> np efuzzyone
[08:16] <AWOSDev> efuzzyone hmm
[08:16] <efuzzyone> but what happened to the "System-Disks" it was there in Dapper, but not anymore in Edgy
[08:17] <mnepton> ok, i need the Big Blue Room. i'm living exactly 27 seconds behind wickedpuppy
[08:17] <wickedpuppy> mnepton, i am in singapore .. you should be closer than me
[08:17] <drumline_> So what's the most special thing about the new version of Ubuntu?
[08:17] <wickedpuppy> drumline_, ah ... it has latest version of programs ?
[08:17] <wrabbit> Stability?
[08:17] <wickedpuppy> actually in OS there hasn't been anything new
[08:18] <akano1n> does i need internet to make apt-get to get working ?
[08:18] <simpla> and its quicker, menus load quicker, it sorta boots quicker
[08:18] <AWOSDev> akano1n yes you do :)
[08:18] <mnepton> akano1n: mostly, yes.
[08:18] <AWOSDev> Can anybody help me with my OO problem?
[08:18] <akano1n> i have a wifi here, my laptop does not have internet yet, so what can i do? i need WPA
[08:18] <drumline_> simpla: sweet..   does it look fancier?  :)
[08:19] <mnepton> akano1n: does your laptop have a standard wired ethernet port?
[08:19] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit, actually stability doesn't go with new ... since debian is known to be extrememly stable yet its release schedule is .. well
[08:19] <akano1n> mnepton yes, but i dont have a wire right now to plug
[08:19] <wickedpuppy> drumline_, you can make dapper fancy now ..
[08:19] <simpla> drumline_, the desktop looks same, cept the artwork/desktop background is nicer then the old one.  The boot up is alot nicer, with a more colours, and hides the text
[08:19] <wrabbit> wickedpuppy: I'm curious about uptime.  Any idea how long I can keep my machine on without a crash?
[08:20] <mnepton> akano1n: wait until you do, use the wired connection to install network-manager-gnome.
[08:20] <akano1n> ok, i get it, i will plug with the eth0 and then config the WPA
[08:20] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit, a long time .. what do you do ? thats the question
[08:20] <drumline_> wickedpuppy: when Ubuntu is debian based, does that mean that Ubuntu relies on Debian for its OS development, or is it a complete fork of Debian with its own complete development team?
[08:20] <AWOSDev> simpla, ew I want the text...a way to get it back?
[08:20] <akano1n> my ubuntu is 6.06.1, its knetworkmanager, right?
[08:20] <simpla> I actually just installed it on my new laptop, but slightly disappointed..  Some of the stuff in my laptop I don't think are quite supported.
[08:20] <wickedpuppy> drumline_, you can find out about debian and ubuntu relationship on the wiki ..
[08:20] <drumline_> wickedpuppy: cool
[08:20] <wrabbit> wickedpuppy: What do I do?  I'd keep it folding
[08:21] <simpla> There is a way, i remember seeing something about it somewhere in the wiki, but don't remember off hand.
[08:21] <AWOSDev> simpla okay :)
[08:21] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit, folding the os ?
[08:21] <AWOSDev> I need help with OpenOffice 2.0.2, can anybody help?
[08:21] <wrabbit> wickedpuppy: I mean folding at home.  The distributed compuiting project.
[08:22] <wrabbit> it uses the CPU idle time to run in the background.
[08:22] <simpla> does anyone know if there is an actual release of when in october it will be released?
[08:22] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit, i mean how long a comp can last depends on the programs running ...
[08:22] <simpla> edgy that is :)
[08:22] <ChocoCid> it's the 20th, i think? not sure
[08:22] <AWOSDev> simpla, October 29th
[08:22] <ChocoCid> ah, ok
[08:22] <AWOSDev> Which is good
[08:22] <simpla> Oh yep ok thanks!
[08:22] <wrabbit> wickedpuppy: ah, ok.  Well nothing at times.  Other times, the usual multimedia stuff, development etc
[08:22] <AWOSDev> because I'll be giving an Ubuntu computer to a friend on that day :)
[08:22] <unfknblvbl> 26thhh
[08:23] <AWOSDev> Okay a fairly dumb question
[08:23] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit, check this out and see what how long a computer can stand http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html
[08:23] <simpla> lol..  AWOSDev  you will be able to give them the latest version
[08:23] <AWOSDev> simpla, yep back from vacation with a new computer, what a great bday present huh?
[08:23] <AWOSDev> Okay
[08:23] <simpla> oo yeah, certainly is
[08:23] <AWOSDev> How do I close a PM window in irssi?
[08:24] <ChocoCid> control-w
[08:24] <ChocoCid> i think
[08:24] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid nope
[08:25] <ChocoCid> hrm
[08:25] <wrabbit> that's a very cool site wickedpuppy, thanks.  I'll check it out after my reinstall
[08:25] <wickedpuppy> wrabbit, you never heard of netcraft ?
[08:25] <wrabbit> wickedpuppy: nope, never
[08:25] <wickedpuppy> what about slashdot ?
[08:26] <unfknblvbl> my system is fine as long as i do not run any 3d applications coz then after 5-10 minutes the comp freezes and freezes and freezes and after 6 restarts its fine
[08:26] <AWOSDev> wrabbit that is a very cool site, I love it
[08:26] <AWOSDev> wickedpuppy, you mean there are people that *don't* know about /. ?
[08:26] <wickedpuppy> AWOSDev, seems like it .. but then not everyone is a geek ..
[08:26] <czer323> lol, /. isn't known by everyone.  I actually found a bunch of people at my work that didn't knw about Digg.com
[08:27] <wrabbit> I know /.
[08:27] <wrabbit> never seen this one though
[08:27] <AWOSDev> wickedpuppy no?  :)
[08:27] <elkbuntu> idle chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:27] <czer323> And we're all computer tech support.
[08:27] <lappy> hrm,testing
[08:27] <AWOSDev> czer323, what's digg.com?
[08:27] <elkbuntu> lappy, we read you loud and clear :)
[08:27] <ChocoCid> well.
[08:27] <ChocoCid> control-z closes it!
[08:27] <wickedpuppy> sorry guys ... for starting the topic :P /me goes off ... ZZzzz
[08:27] <ChocoCid> good way to leave dead clients!
[08:27] <drumline_> control Z suspends it...
[08:28] <eEk> how do you use a .diff file?
[08:28] <AWOSDev> Well yep Ctrl+Z killed it alright
[08:28] <AWOSDev> thanks alot :X
[08:28] <ChocoCid> ...heh
[08:29] <ChocoCid> you just got told it closed it
[08:29] <ChocoCid> that's your own fault for not reading :P
[08:29] <drumline_> ChocoCid: which program?
[08:29] <ChocoCid> irssi :P
[08:29] <drumline_> ChocoCid: is your shell still open where you closed it?
[08:29] <ChocoCid> ah, /window close will do it, i think- let me test again
[08:29] <ChocoCid> yeah
[08:29] <drumline_> ChocoCid: try this on the command line: fg
[08:30] <lappy> oh, nice
[08:30] <ChocoCid> doing /window close will do it
[08:30] <ChocoCid> i'm sure there's a better way, but meh
[08:30] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid yeah that worked thanks
[08:30] <ChocoCid> i'd much rather use xchat thanks :P
[08:30] <AWOSDev> :)
[08:31] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid, Konversation and GAIM both don't start up for some reason
[08:31] <AWOSDev> now
[08:31] <AWOSDev> Can somebody please help me with my OpenOffice Writer 2.0.2 problem?
[08:31] <ChocoCid> ah
[08:31] <ChocoCid> odd
[08:31] <ChocoCid> OO writer?
[08:31] <ChocoCid> hm... what exactly is the problem?
[08:31] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid yeah
[08:32] <kyja> what is it I just installed that messes up the fonts at startup ? all the fonts that scroll under the Ubuntu pic before login screen. it starts to scroll and list then all of a sudden it looks like someone changed a bit in the sprite vectors of a c64
[08:32] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid whenever I hit Insert->Image->From File the whole thing freezes, and makes Kicker (KDE taskbar) and all other application menus freeze until I killall -9 soffice.bin
[08:32] <ChocoCid> hrm...
[08:33] <ChocoCid> i can suggest "try abiword" but i don't know what would cause that particular problem
[08:33] <AWOSDev> blank document or previosuly-saved document
[08:33] <AWOSDev> I need OO because I use Calc too
[08:33] <AWOSDev> Calc for Business, Writer for personal stuff
[08:34] <AWOSDev> and another problem plaguing my computer:
[08:34] <AWOSDev> some files are missing in the File->Open box of other apps
[08:34] <AWOSDev> for no reason
[08:34] <AWOSDev> just missing
[08:34] <ChocoCid> hrm
[08:34] <ChocoCid> wonder if your file manager is borken
[08:34] <AWOSDev> how can I fix it?
[08:34] <Zv_oDD> why wont my xubuntu except this url for my sources.list source : http://ftp.iinet.com.au/linux/ubuntu
[08:34] <ChocoCid> i have no idea, AWOSDev
[08:34] <Zv_oDD> for apt get
[08:34] <ChocoCid> Zv_oDD : source.list needs more stuff after that
[08:34] <Zv_oDD> it does
[08:35] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid: apt-get reconfigure or something like that?
[08:35] <Zv_oDD> but this is the url i used, and i dont know why it wont work
[08:35] <ChocoCid> AWOSDev : something like that, yeah
[08:35] <ChocoCid> or just uninstall/reinstall OO
[08:35] <ChocoCid> do you have OO "premium" or whatever silliness they're calling it?
[08:36] <ChocoCid> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ooop/
[08:36] <AWOSDev> No
[08:36] <AWOSDev> just regular from-the-repo OO
[08:36] <ChocoCid> hrm
[08:36] <ChocoCid> might be worth looking into that instead of regular OO if you've got further problems
[08:36] <AWOSDev> I tried talking to #openoffice.org but they had no clue, because they use Debian Sarge repos :X
[08:36] <ChocoCid> odd
[08:36] <eEk> how do you patch something, or use a .diff file?
[08:37] <AWOSDev> Sarge repos are not having this problem
[08:37] <ChocoCid> hrm
[08:37] <ChocoCid> let me test my oo real quick
[08:37] <AWOSDev> okay how do I reinstall a critical package without killing my system?
[08:38] <ChocoCid> hrm
[08:38] <ChocoCid> insert-image-from file works for me, but i'm on edgy so...
[08:38] <AWOSDev> hmm
[08:39] <siTek> I am currently configuring my printer on http://localhost:631/admin Can someone please tell me the correct user name and password? It is not accepting root as a username
[08:39] <ChocoCid> have you tried different formats of images?
[08:39] <ChocoCid> siTek : try your ubuntu username and pass,
[08:39] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid No because I can't get the box to come up
[08:39] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid It freezes before the box comes up
[08:39] <ChocoCid> oh, it crashes before you get to insert
[08:39] <ChocoCid> wow
[08:39] <siTek> ChocoCid, I tried but with no luck
[08:39] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid, yep :)
[08:40] <theunruled> Hello everyone. I am looking for a text based messenger, something like centericq, but better
[08:40] <ChocoCid> for what, irc, aim, icq, what?
[08:41] <ChocoCid> er, minus one "what"
[08:41] <theunruled> altogether
[08:41] <theunruled> if possible
[08:41] <theunruled> but mainly msn
[08:41] <ChocoCid> ehh, irssi can handle irc
[08:41] <ChocoCid> (so can bitchx, and tons of others)
[08:41] <mnepton> theunruled: you want irssi + bitlbee
[08:41] <ChocoCid> don't know about the other messengers
[08:41] <theunruled> bitlbee?
[08:41] <siTek> theunruled, I had gaim going on msn
[08:41] <mnepton> bitlbee.
[08:41] <theunruled> i'm using irssi right now for irc
[08:42] <charlie5> thanks for the help guys ... but i've trashed the old box good :/ ... need to change cmos settings via kboard which won;t work ... time for the junk heap
[08:42] <simpla> oh cool, I just looked up what bitlbee is.  A program which tunnels msn etc into a virtual irc channel.
[08:43] <cuijinli> talisein: install nautilus-open-terminal to provide a menu option for any local folder object to open a terminal in that folder. Note: X-window need restart.
[08:43] <AWOSDev> charlie5, what'd you do?
[08:44] <charlie5> AWOSDev: the cmos was corrupt, so i took out and put back in the battery to reset it ... now it asks me to enter bios to update cmos settings ... but i can't cos the ps2 port is busted (only usb kboard works)
[08:44] <ChocoCid> yay, set up folding@home
[08:44] <AWOSDev> charlie5 LOL
[08:44] <theunruled> siTek: do u know any text based replacement for GAIM though?
[08:44] <charlie5> yep ... its a hoot ;)
[08:44] <JoshIRL> i'm baaack :P
[08:44] <siTek> theunruled, no what is wrong with gui?
[08:44] <JoshIRL> and needing help
[08:44] <theunruled> doesn't go with fluxbox
[08:45] <charlie5> sick of the darned thing anyway ... simpler to get a new box
[08:45] <JoshIRL> I have qwest dsl for internet, i plugged in my modem and i couldn't get a reply in firefox or whatnot, but i can download/install stuff from the repositorys, why?
[08:45] <charlie5> anyways, thanks again ... nearly got there :) .. and bye for now
[08:45] <Jesse1984> Hi, anyone feel like helping me with my ubuntu 6.06 install? having problems, and i have googled answers for a couple of days...
[08:46] <JoshIRL> What problems?
[08:46] <mnepton> JoshIRL: DNS issues?
[08:46] <JoshIRL> And how do i repair or fix those mnepton?
[08:46] <ChocoCid> first
[08:46] <mnepton> JoshIRL: well, test first. "nslookup cnn.com"
[08:46] <JoshIRL> eh?
[08:46] <JoshIRL> in terminal?
[08:46] <mnepton> yup
[08:47] <ChocoCid> type in "<IP_ADDRESS>" in your browser
[08:47] <Daverto> I need help ubuntu wont install
[08:47] <JoshIRL> *mumbles* give me all the things i gotta do
[08:47] <JoshIRL> i'll copy and take back and do them
[08:47] <Jesse1984> i just bought a pc specifically for linux.. just testing waters.. wanting to give up windowsXP.. im booting the system atm to give you the correct error..
[08:47] <ChocoCid> eh
[08:47] <ChocoCid> first we have to find the problem
[08:47] <JoshIRL> ah
[08:47] <AWOSDev> Hehe
[08:47] <JoshIRL> :s
[08:47] <ChocoCid> you want to check your firefox/bonecho settins to see if they're right
[08:47] <JoshIRL> Bonecho?
[08:47] <ChocoCid> you want to check your dns thing to see if they're right
[08:47] <mnepton> JoshIRL: those two are it. "can you look up and IP address by name, and does Firefox work with a raw IP address?" if the answers are "no" and "yes" respectively, you have DNS problems.
[08:47] <ChocoCid> renamed firefox in next ubuntu, ignore
[08:48] <ChocoCid> forgot they didn't change it for dapper
[08:48] <mnepton> s/and/an/
[08:48] <AWOSDev> Bonecho?  that sounds like some freaky Japanese video game or something :P
[08:48] <ChocoCid> Bon Echo
[08:48] <ChocoCid> <IP_ADDRESS> is a better ip to try, sorry
[08:48] <ChocoCid> i don't care what it's called, i installed swiftfox anyway
[08:49] <Daverto> ???
[08:49] <ChocoCid> firefox has trademarked their logo
[08:49] <Daverto> Can somebody help me
[08:49] <ChocoCid> oh, you're not ???ing at what i said
[08:49] <ChocoCid> ;[
[08:49] <Jesse1984> i had an install working perfectly! did all the updates, then played with the IDE cables and added another optical drive and all fell to peices, on the ubuntu boot up screen (where it says "loading essential drivers..." "mounting root file system..." ect.) it sits there doing that for like 8mins, then it eventually brings up busybox! and an error, thats where im stuck at.. i have put the ubuntu alternate install cd in, booted from cd
[08:50] <Jesse1984> re-install but it wont do it.. just line and line of fast errors scrolling down the screen
[08:50] <mnepton> Jesse1984: are your IDE devices jumpered correctly for master and slave?
[08:50] <Daverto> choco no
[08:50] <ChocoCid> !question
[08:50] <Jesse1984> yeh, they are
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about question - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <ChocoCid> er... must not be the command i wanted
[08:51] <Daverto> I cant get my copy of ubuntu to install
[08:51] <mnepton> Jesse1984: you *sure*. no stupid "cable select?"
[08:51] <JoshIRL> !questionmark
[08:51] <JoshIRL> lol
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about questionmark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <JoshIRL> :shrugs:
[08:51] <ChocoCid> there's something that says "don't ask to ask your question, just ask the question"
[08:51] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid what are you trying to do
[08:51] <AWOSDev> !ask
[08:51] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:51] <ChocoCid> ah ok
[08:51] <AWOSDev> :)
[08:51] <ChocoCid> ;p
[08:51] <JoshIRL> So, if i have a dns problem, what's that mean?
[08:51] <JoshIRL> :s
[08:51] <Jesse1984> yeh im sure, 10gb maxtor on master and 10.2gb seagate on slave, it shows that way in the bios too..
[08:51] <mnepton> don't axe to axe. just axe.
[08:51] <AWOSDev> !dns
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <ChocoCid> holy hell, folding @ home takes all kinds of memory..
[08:52] <mnepton> JoshIRL: did you try those 2 things?
[08:52] <ChocoCid> well, i'm more concerned about the cpu usage, but meh
[08:52] <ChocoCid> it's holding me steady at 90%+ all the time :/
[08:52] <Jesse1984> ok, busybox is up, the error is this: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[08:52] <JoshIRL> No, i'm here trying to get all the awnsers i need before i drag the modem back there haha
[08:52] <ChocoCid> JoshIRL : dns problem means you need to update your dns, or your web provider does
[08:52] <mnepton> JoshIRL: well, why spend time answering "how do i fix dns?" until we know if it's indeed broken?
[08:53] <ChocoCid> if your dns is working in here, it's not the provider's issue, it's probably a firefox setting issue
[08:53] <JoshIRL> i was asking was dns meant
[08:53] <JoshIRL> :p
[08:53] <AWOSDev> Or a ifconfig problem
[08:53] <AWOSDev> Domain Name Service
[08:53] <JoshIRL> or rather .. eh nvm
[08:53] <ChocoCid> well, no, he can get repositories to work
[08:53] <Normal> I just tried to boot the Edgy Beta CD, but it freezes. Dapper froze too, untill I started with Breezy and upgraded to it. The 2.6.15 kernels refuse to load. I can only boot with 2.6.12....Does this mean that Edgy Final isn't going to work for me too?
[08:53] <ChocoCid> dns is basicaly lwhat converts urls to ip addresses
[08:53] <JoshIRL> Yeah
[08:53] <ChocoCid> like "bob smith" to "555-5555"
[08:53] <JoshIRL> i installed a few things, updates and vlc player
[08:53] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid, good analogy
[08:54] <ChocoCid> try installing a different browser while you're at it if those don't work- try opera, or lynx even :P
[08:54] <mnepton> JoshIRL: DNS = domain name services. turing raw ip numbers into name addresses. so you don;t have to type <IP_ADDRESS> to go to wankpants.org
[08:54] <AWOSDev> w3m
[08:54] <ChocoCid> ...
[08:54] <JoshIRL> haha
[08:54] <JoshIRL> alright
[08:54] <wrabbit> what's the command to apt-get install the kde desktop?  apt-get install kde-desktop?
[08:54] <ChocoCid> Firefox can't find the server at www.wankpants.org.
[08:54] <ChocoCid> kubuntu-desktop
[08:54] <ChocoCid> but yeah
[08:54] <JoshIRL> haha
[08:54] <Normal> Oh, and since I can't use 2.6.15, I can't use Nvidia-glx.....Is there anything I can do ?
[08:54] <AWOSDev> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:55] <mnepton> ChocoCid: why did you add the www. ? :P
[08:55] <wrabbit> ah, AWOSDev, thanks.
[08:55] <ChocoCid> i didn't, firefox did automatically
[08:55] <Daverto> my ubuntu is just downloaded tonight wont onstall on my computer and I need someone to help me
[08:55] <ChocoCid> Daverto : what exactly is hte problem?
[08:55] <wrabbit> what's the matter Dave
[08:56] <AWOSDev> wrabbit no problem :)
[08:56] <mnepton> ChocoCid: thought you used Swiftfox. more lies! you are exposed as *the fraud that you are*!
[08:56] <ChocoCid> ...oh hell no, folding @ home won't conclude *this job* until december? screw that. *deletes*
[08:56] <mnepton> uhhh ... anyone seen my meds?
[08:56] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid December?  really?
[08:56] <Normal> Bah!
[08:56] <ChocoCid> XD
[08:56] <ChocoCid> yeah
[08:56] <Daverto> well im able to lad it up to when it tries to start gnome then it just stops
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> Can I set up different monitors to have my "workspaces"?
[08:56] <ChocoCid> Current Work Unit
[08:56] <ChocoCid> -----------------
[08:56] <ChocoCid> Name: p2800_jrz_apo
[08:56] <ChocoCid> Download time: October 7 06:43:39
[08:56] <ChocoCid> Due time: December 4 06:43:39
[08:56] <AWOSDev> ew
[08:56] <ChocoCid> :\
[08:56] <AWOSDev> Dec 4 of what year though :P
[08:56] <AWOSDev> 2008?
[08:56] <AWOSDev> 2009?  :)
[08:56] <ChocoCid> i am not letting it use up 90%+ of my cpu for the next three months
[08:56] <Jesse1984> Can anyone help with this? ...busybox is up, the error is this: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off ??
[08:57] <Daverto> am i using a live CD
[08:57] <wrabbit> ChocoCid: Are you folding?
[08:57] <mnepton> Jesse1984: how is the hard drive connected to the mobo?
[08:58] <peterretief> hi all, is there a command to find out the motherboard info
[08:58] <wrabbit> ChocoCid: You know it uses idle cpu time right?
[08:58] <Jesse1984> via ide master
[08:58] <mnepton> Jesse1984: PATA? SATA? which channel?
[08:58] <ChocoCid> yeah
[08:58] <Daverto> the iso name is ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[08:59] <ChocoCid> i know what it does, but it using *that much* of it is a bit ridiculous :[
[08:59] <ChocoCid> makes my comp laggy a bit
[08:59] <mnepton> ChocoCid: use nice
[08:59] <ChocoCid> i'll pass :P
[08:59] <ChocoCid> if they don't have it smart enough to not hog my computer, i'm not giving them any of it :P
[08:59] <Jesse1984> mnepton: PATA primary channel, and i have tried it on secondary channel, master and slave
[08:59] <ChocoCid> i even went through advanced options when i turned it on
[09:00] <wrabbit> ChocoCid: That's odd.  You shouldn't even notice it's there. Are you sure there isn't anything else running in the background?
[09:00] <mnepton> Jesse1984: you can;t just move the drive from channel to channel and master to slave and expect GRUB to be happy.
[09:00] <ChocoCid> wrabbit : i can tell the differnece just from turning it off
[09:00] <ChocoCid> so yeah, i'm sure
[09:00] <Jesse1984> mnepton: is there a way to wipe the drive clean and reset grub and re install?
[09:00] <wrabbit> odd
[09:00] <mnepton> Jesse1984: get the IDE stuff the way you want it. then boot from a Live CD and use it to modify your GRUB settings. you can find extensive documentation for this.
[09:01] <Daverto> help plz
[09:01] <AWOSDev> How do I reinstall something
[09:01] <AWOSDev> without apt-get uninstall
[09:02] <AWOSDev> I just want to refresh it
[09:02] <AWOSDev> it's like apt-get reconfigure
[09:02] <AWOSDev> or something like that but how do I do that?
[09:02] <Taigrr> Hello there, fello ubuntu users! I have a quick question...
[09:02] <Jesse1984> mnepton: i have booted from the lice CD and tried to re-install from there but it just shuts the PC down half way through the install, but im guessing you're talking about something different..
[09:02] <AWOSDev> Taigrr what?
[09:02] <wrabbit> Taigrr: Would've been quicker if you'd just asked it :P
[09:03] <AWOSDev> Jesse1984, well get the lice off of the disc :P
[09:03] <Guidan> hi, i use knoppix live cd, can some 1 tell me why its not detecting my wireless card.?
[09:03] <ChocoCid> apt-get install programname --reinstall
[09:03] <wrabbit> Guidan: Not sure because this isn't the knoppix channel but have you tried using ndiswrapper?
[09:03] <AWOSDev> ChocoCid thanks
[09:03] <AWOSDev> Guidan, try a knoppix channel
[09:04] <Taigrr> Seems as though my laptop has an AC '97 card, they said Generic, but someone before said Realtech.  Is there any idea how to get the sound working? Maybe a driver or something..
[09:04] <AWOSDev> Guidan, this is for *Ubuntu* Linux
[09:04] <Jesse1984> AWOSDev: funny? ..so i boot into live and then configure grub for my current ide setup? correct?
[09:04] <wrabbit> or yeah, it's probably better to try in #knoppix if there is one
[09:04] <AWOSDev> Jesse1984 yes that's right
[09:04] <AWOSDev> Guidan, try /join #knoppix
[09:04] <stonarmusic> sometimes my desktop icons appear on top of each other, why is that. usually it's me ipod icon over an icon of my room mates smb share
[09:04] <Guidan> wrabbit, yes, i came here asking to see if ubuntu will work with my card , another guy told me to try live cd first
[09:04] <Jesse1984> ok ill try, thankyou :)
[09:05] <Daverto> may i get some help
[09:05] <Daverto> i want to install umbutu but i dont know how to
[09:05] <AWOSDev> types
[09:05] <AWOSDev> s/types/yipes
[09:06] <AWOSDev> it's reinstalling kde-core
[09:06] <Guidan> wrabbut: would ubuntu support my card?
[09:06] <AWOSDev> this is scary
[09:06] <Guidan> i just bought a linksy wirless g
[09:06] <AWOSDev> well that didn't work
[09:06] <AWOSDev> shoot
[09:06] <AWOSDev> Guidan, WPC54G?
[09:06] <wrabbit> Daverto: Put in the CD and it should boot up Gnome with two icons.  One says examples and the other says install
[09:06] <wrabbit> click install
[09:06] <AWOSDev> WPC54G v3 or v4?
[09:06] <Taigrr> Seems as though my laptop has an AC '97 card, they said Generic, but someone before said Realtech.  Is there any idea how to get the sound working? Maybe a driver or something..
[09:06] <AWOSDev> Guidan, if it is v3 no :(
[09:07] <Daverto> i dont get that far gnome wont load
[09:07] <Guidan> wpc54gx4
[09:07] <AWOSDev> v4 might
[09:07] <AWOSDev> anyway
[09:07] <AWOSDev> I need to go to #kubuntu
[09:07] <Guidan> whats v3 or v4?
[09:07] <AWOSDev> I have KDE troubles
[09:07] <AWOSDev> where it says "gx4" - I have "gx3" and it doesn't work
[09:07] <AWOSDev> it's the revision number
[09:07] <wrabbit> Daverto: Where does it get to?
[09:07] <Guidan> dman knoppix is dead.
[09:07] <Guidan> damn*
[09:07] <AWOSDev> !language
[09:07] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:08] <wrabbit> Daverto: and is there an error message?
[09:08] <Guidan> sorry
[09:08] <Daverto> it gets to where i can see that is says that it launches gnome- then my screen flashes and i have two squares pop up
[09:08] <Daverto> thats it
[09:08] <Guidan> i got 2 wirless in my laptop
[09:08] <Daverto> i just got the CD tonight
[09:09] <wrabbit> Daverto: Did you download it or have it sent to you?
[09:09] <Daverto> download
[09:09] <wrabbit> Daverto: Be sure to set a slow burn speed when burning isos like this.  Maybe it was a dodgy burn.
[09:10] <Daverto> but with my iso recorder i cant change the burn speed
[09:10] <Guidan> wrabbit my other card is : atheros ar500 g5
[09:10] <Guidan> would it work
[09:10] <Daverto> never mind
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> !wifi
[09:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:10] <Daverto> i found it
[09:11] <Daverto> 1xslow enough
[09:11] <wrabbit> Guidan: None of them should work unless you get the right drivers that're compatible with both ubuntu and ndiswrapper.  Then again, there is also a site that provides linux drivers for specific cards.  I can't remember where that is though
[09:12] <Daverto> burning now ill try again
[09:12] <wrabbit> Guidan: for instance, I had to use the win 2000 drivers with this netgear card because the xp drivers wouldn't work
[09:12] <wrabbit> good luck Daverto.  report back if it doesn't work
[09:12] <Guidan> oh
[09:12] <Daverto> i will
[09:13] <Guidan> i try using ndiswrapper for both , didnt work for both
[09:14] <Guidan> does ubuntu has live cd?
[09:14] <wrabbit> Guidan: have you had a look at the ubuntu forums?  Do a search for your card there and something may come up
[09:14] <highvoltage> I see Firefox RC2 is released. Is it likely to be inluded in Edgy?
[09:15] <highvoltage> or will the earlier beta's be used?
[09:15] <elmargol> maybe iceweasel?
[09:17] <timo> Is there any shorter way to install multimedia codecs, plug-ins, java and so on into 5.10?
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> !easyubuntu
[09:17] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[09:17] <wrabbit> automatix timo but I wouldn't use it
[09:18] <wrabbit> wow, that's handy
[09:18] <wrabbit> !automatix
[09:18] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[09:18] <timo> thanks, that was almost in my mind
[09:18] <wrabbit> nice
[09:18] <kon> could someone help me edit my xorg.conf to get my monitor working with my laptop?
[09:19] <BeepAU> Any gamers in here? I downloaded Nexuiz, but I can't see how to install it.
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> What's this?  !automatix doesn't read like Revelations any more?
[09:21] <ChocoCid> !easyubuntu
[09:21] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[09:21] <theunruled> ok
[09:22] <theunruled> whoever told me about bitlbee, i love u
[09:22] <wrabbit> !bitlbee
[09:23] <ubotu> bitlbee: An IRC to other chat networks gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (dapper), package size 291 kB, installed size 756 kB
[09:23] <wrabbit> what is it?
[09:23] <Ademan> is there any way for me to get the latest version of inkscape?
[09:23] <mnepton> IM to irssi gateway
[09:23] <wrabbit> ah sweet
[09:24] <Spudulike> I am looking for some help installing the eagle-usb drivers and how to install modules.  Can I just install the module-source package with synaptic and expect it to work?
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> Spudulike: you can expect it to work, chances are, it wont :)
[09:27] <mnepton> ahoy fyrestrtr
[09:27] <Spudulike> fyrestrtr, Ah, well, it doesn't. So, what do I do now?
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> Spudulike: first thing you should do it check the wiki and the forums to see if somone has already done this
[09:29] <mnepton> Spudulike: you need to compile the module against the current kernel, and either compile the module into the base kernel, or load it dynamically at boot. the latter is probably preferable to make upgrading easier.
[09:29] <mnepton> Spudulike: compiling kernel modules and loading them is well documented. just take your time and read everything twice. :)
[09:29] <Spudulike> Ah, time, wish I had time.  Thanks.
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> Spudulike: man module-assistant :)
[09:30] <Spudulike> Sorry, that cam over a bit terse. I do really mean thanks.
[09:31] <Spudulike> fyrestrtr, I've actually tried mod-ass but that also comes up with an error. My lack of knowledge on module (and kernel) compilation is becoming obvious.
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> Spudulike: one hint I can give you is to look at the documentation about compiling the video modules, the process is the same.
[09:34] <Spudulike> The mod-ass log file doesn't give me enough info to chase down the problem, just reports a file name and 'Error 1' or 'Error 2'.
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> Spudulike: not all modules can be installed with m-a, if yours can, then you are in luck. If not, then you'll have to do it the "old" way.
[09:35] <Nothing_About> Hey can anyone here help me
[09:35] <Nothing_About> out with a problem
[09:35] <Nothing_About> Anyone here
[09:35] <Nothing_About> >>>><<<<<
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> Spudulike: old way is -- grab the linux kernel source, grab the source of the module, install build-essentials, build/compile the module, then modload it and hope it works :)
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> !anyone
[09:35] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:35] <Spudulike> The Debian readme in the Eagle-usb package suugests mod-ass.  I was hoping this would work for Ubuntu too.
[09:35] <Nothing_About> hey
[09:35] <Nothing_About> i need help
[09:35] <Nothing_About> with ubuntu
[09:35] <fyrestrtr> Spudulike: it should.
[09:36] <Nothing_About> Fyrestrtr
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> Nothing_About: just ask your question. We can't guess what your problem is.
[09:36] <Nothing_About> can you help me out plz
[09:36] <Nothing_About> ok
[09:36] <Nothing_About> how do i start ubuntu live cd
[09:36] <Nothing_About> from my computer
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> reboot your computer with the livecd in the drive, and make sure you computer is set to boot from the cdrom.
[09:36] <Ademan> put it in the cd drive, restart, and enter the boot menu, then select to boot from the CD drive
[09:36] <Nothing_About> ive started it up just as soon as i turnd on my comp
[09:36] <Spudulike> Nothing_About, insert disk into drive and reset the machine.
[09:37] <Nothing_About> ok
[09:37] <Nothing_About> no boot menu
[09:37] <Nothing_About> yeh
[09:37] <Nothing_About> ok this is what has happend
[09:37] <Ademan> can i get the latest version of inkscape any way other than installing from source?
[09:37] <pradeep> Nothing_About, make sure you boot from CD
[09:37] <Nothing_About> ok i boot from cd
[09:37] <Nothing_About> and the only menus ive seen
[09:37] <Nothing_About> was Install ubuntu
[09:37] <Nothing_About> something safe graphic mod
[09:37] <Nothing_About> and the other menus
[09:38] <Nothing_About> and i thought live cd was safe graphic mod
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> Nothing_About: if you leave the cd alone (don't pick an option) it will boot into the livecd.
[09:38] <Nothing_About> and it started booting
[09:38] <Nothing_About> oh
[09:38] <Nothing_About> dam
[09:38] <Nothing_About> so what happens if i did press on an option
[09:38] <pradeep> Nothing_About, yep, click on Install ubuntu .. it won't install ubuntu .. it would boot into live CD
[09:38] <Nothing_About> like safe graphic mod
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> Nothing_About: the livecd is the first option. Please don't use the enter key as punctuation. Form a complete thought and type it out.
[09:38] <Monk> hi all.
[09:38] <Nothing_About> ok
[09:38] <Nothing_About> so what should i do
[09:38] <pradeep> hi Monk
[09:39] <TomaszD> hello, I'd like to install edgy beta on my laptop, but the hdd is only 10GB. How much space should I give for the root partition? 3gb?
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> Nothing_About: just reboot and wait till you see the gnome desktop.
[09:39] <Monk> I hope someone here will be able to help me.
[09:39] <Nothing_About> oh and since i pressed the ubuntu safe graphic , will it harm my computer in any way
[09:39] <Nothing_About> that i have not spoted yet
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> Nothing_About: no
[09:39] <Guidan> how do i know what chipset my wireless card uses?
[09:39] <Nothing_About> ok good
[09:39] <Spudulike> fyrestrtr, I did try a manual compile of this module, but that gave errors.  Trying with mod-ass does give a warning of the driver being on the system and suggests I run 'make uninstall'.  I can
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> Guidan: check the output of lspci -vv
[09:39] <odyssevs> TomaszD, I used 5 gig for mine, but 3 should be fine.
[09:39] <Spudulike> I can't see 'make uninstall' in the package.  Should it be there?
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> Spudulike: if it says that, then it seems your module is already there?
[09:40] <Daverto> my computer still has the problem of not wanting to install
[09:40] <Nothing_About> ok so what i should do is put the cd in boot up my computer , and then leave it and it will go into live CD from their on
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> Nothing_About: yes
[09:40] <ViGGi> it takes 30 secs ;)
[09:40] <Monk> I have next problem:
[09:40] <Monk> I have ext3 filesystem with filenames created in windows by ext2ifs. the problem is that filenames were created in local codepage, not in UTF-8, and are all screwed up. How can I mount this filesystem to see filenames? or convert them to UTF-8?
[09:40] <Monk> convmv doesn't work, it says filenames are not in cp1251...
[09:40] <TomaszD> odyssevs, I'm using 3gb for dapper there now, I was thinking of shaving a few hundred megs, space is preciouss when you have such a small hdd...
[09:40] <Nothing_About> ok is there a way i could emulate that live cd boot From windows ?
[09:40] <odyssevs> TomaszD, you'll want another partition for linux-swap as well, about 300 megs is more than enough (how much ram have you? about 256?)
[09:40] <TomaszD> but then again I *will* be messing with -dev packages and compiling
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> Monk: re-mount the filesystem with the correct codepage option.
[09:40] <TomaszD> odyssevs, 360MB RAM
[09:41] <fyrestrtr> Nothing_About: no.
[09:41] <Nothing_About> ok
[09:41] <Monk> fyrestrtr: how? i tried nls=cp1251 in fstab, but it doesn't mount
[09:41] <odyssevs> TomaszD, replacement drives are cheap and easily inserted.
[09:41] <Nothing_About> so ill just go and live cd right now
[09:41] <Nothing_About> leave it alone and it wont boot into windows am i right
[09:41] <TomaszD> odyssevs, yes I actually am a computer technician working in a computer shop and I do these things daily :)
[09:42] <Daverto> My computer will not install ubuntu it still has the same problem
[09:42] <TomaszD> but 2,5' drives don't come cheap.
[09:42] <TomaszD> :P
[09:42] <Spudulike> Nothing_About, yes, if you have your cd set to a boot device!
[09:42] <MTecknology> When I try to uninstall vmware player, i get this error...(E: vmware-player: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1) how do i fix?
[09:42] <Nothing_About> pl
[09:42] <Nothing_About> ok
[09:42] <Spudulike> Nothing_About, you might need to change that in the bios.
[09:42] <odyssevs> TomaszD, good =) You'll be fine with 3 gb. I run a network server which does mail/web, fully installed, no x, only 710 mb so far.
[09:42] <Nothing_About> to my cd rom boot device
[09:42] <Nothing_About> yeh it works when i put cd in my comp
[09:43] <Nothing_About> and ubuntu loads up its menus
[09:43] <Nothing_About> i presed the wrong menu for ubuntu live cd
[09:43] <TomaszD> odyssevs, I see that without too much messing I'm left with 600mb on the 3gb root partition with dapper, so I was just curious if the requirements have gone up a bit
[09:43] <TomaszD> I could sacrifice a few megs for speed =)
[09:43] <Nothing_About> brb
[09:43] <skwashd> hi all
[09:44] <pradeep> hello skwashd
[09:44] <skwashd> i am trying to install 6.06.1 on a sunfire t2000
[09:44] <skwashd> and it keeps on dying when trying to start the partitioner
[09:44] <Monk> I have ext3 filesystem with filenames created in windows by ext2ifs. the problem is that filenames were created in local codepage, not in UTF-8, and are all screwed up. How can I mount this filesystem to see filenames? or convert them to UTF-8?
[09:44] <Monk> convmv doesn't work, it says filenames are not in cp1251...
[09:44] <TomaszD> odyssevs, anyway, thanks for help, bye
[09:44] <skwashd> hi pradeep
[09:44] <skwashd> any ideas?
[09:44] <odyssevs> TomaszD, I've just moved into ubuntu from debian myself so no idea what the usual numbers are.
[09:44] <robert_> bah
[09:45] <Daverto> May I please recive some help, my computer does not want to install ubuntu
[09:45] <MTecknology> When I try to uninstall vmware player, i get this error...(E: vmware-player: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1) how do i fix it??
[09:45] <skwashd> checked the forums ... and i can only find someting from may this year ... unresolved .. with an ubuntu flame at the end
[09:45] <odyssevs> Daverto, oh? Where does she stop?
[09:45] <MTecknology> oops, sry for repost
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> Monk: I don't know, sorry. I thought I saw an option in mount for it, but its not for ext fstype.
[09:46] <odyssevs> MTecknology, you're doing it as sudo?
[09:46] <MTecknology> yea
[09:46] <Daverto> IT says that it is launching gnome and then it only gives two white rectangles on a black screen
[09:46] <Monk> fyrestrtr: thank you]
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> Monk: try passing it codepage=
[09:46] <fyrestrtr> Monk: could work.
[09:47] <Monk> ok ill try
[09:47] <fyrestrtr> Monk: they are probably windows-1252
[09:47] <Monk> may be
[09:47] <odyssevs> MTecknology, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=264393
[09:48] <Monk> fyrestrtr: says "bad option"
[09:50] <skwashd> i tried looking on malone ... but i am sorry malone is completely useless unless you know exactly what package the bug is in ... and you have a PhD in launchpad navigation
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> yeah, because as I suspected, its not a valid option for ext3
[09:50] <odyssevs> Daverto, possibly http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-88019.html
[09:51] <MTecknology> odyssevs, link wasn't useful
[09:51] <MTecknology> odyssevs, I try to uninstall the vmware-payer and it uninstalls the two dependencies, but not the vmware-player, then it seems to try to reinstall and has an error code 1
[09:51] <pradeep> skwashd, did you check the CD integrity? md5 sum
[09:52] <skwashd> pradeep: i did before i burnt it
[09:52] <janitor_x> hello
[09:52] <skwashd> pradeep: i don't think i would be attempting an install on a t2000 without some basic admin skills ;)
[09:53] <Daverto> I dont even get to any user interface lea alone a login screen
[09:54] <janitor_x> im trying to install lm_sensors 2.10.1 but theres an output "No rule to make target `sysfs/libsysfs.h', needed by `lib/sysfs.ad'" when i execute "make user"
[09:54] <janitor_x> any help please?
[09:54] <Daverto> do i need to use the non-graphical interface
[09:55] <Daverto> if so i need code lines
[09:55] <Daverto> to install
[09:56] <jwerd> I was here earlier under the name "leroy" and I was wondering if anyone has a working guide on how to get XGL working Dapper and ATi :)
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> jwerd: I have it working here, using the guide at compiz.net forums.
[09:57] <|thunder> jwerd; ask in #beryl
[09:57] <pradeep> skwashd, by dying do you mean it crashes or it hangs?
[09:57] <jwerd> alright :) compiz.net ?
[09:57] <skwashd> pradeep: hangs
[09:57] <skwashd> comes up "starting partitioner" goes blue ... then nothing
[09:57] <wrabbit> If I've setup the /home as one partition... this includes everything in home, correct?  users etc
[09:58] <skwashd> wrabbit: should do
[09:58] <wrabbit> skwashd: thanks
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> wrabbit: all files in the user's home directories, for all users on the system.
[09:58] <MTecknology> odyssevs, http://pastebin.com/801812
[09:58] <|thunder> wrabbit; ya. but any extra users will have to be added by hand after reformat, but their home dir will still be intavt
[09:58] <|thunder> *intact
[09:59] <wrabbit> I'm just curious because my user folder /home/wrabbit has a heap of stuff in it.  If I reinstall and set /home not to be formatted, I'd like to know I wouldn't lose anything
[10:00] <skwashd> wrabbit: that is right
[10:00] <skwashd> just make sure you add the user wrabbit
[10:00] <MTecknology> I need help removing vmware-player - - http://pastebin.com/801812
[10:00] <skwashd> wrabbit: but as always ... make backups first
[10:00] <wrabbit> skwashd: and when would I have to add it? after the os is installed?
[10:01] <wrabbit> I'm a little confused about that
[10:01] <skwashd> wrabbit: you should be able to create it when asked during the install
[10:01] <|thunder> wrabbit; ive done it a million times. works like a charm
[10:01] <wrabbit> ah right.  ok.... I think I get the idea, thanks
[10:01] <skwashd> if ls -ldn /home/wrabbit shows 1000 as the owner's id
[10:01] <|thunder> just set /home to that partition and no format any time you want to reformat /
[10:02] <PapaPItufo> hello
[10:02] <skwashd> wrabbit: it should similar to this ... drwxr-xr-x 189 1000 1000 13784 2006-10-07 16:40 /home/wrabbit
[10:02] <PapaPItufo> how do I mount a share as if it were local?
[10:02] <fyrestrtr> PapaPItufo: what kind of share?
[10:02] <skwashd> PapaPItufo: a samba share ?
[10:02] <wrabbit> that's what I've done |thunder.  I tested it by putting /home/hi and reinstalling and that worked.  I wish I'd tested a few files in /home/wrabbit/ before I did it htough
[10:02] <wrabbit> I'll try that now skwashd
[10:03] <PapaPItufo> fyrestrtr: a network share. an SMB share.
[10:03] <|thunder> wrabbit; it works fine, your home stuffs will still be there
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> PapaPItufo: smbmount
[10:04] <PapaPItufo> fyrestrtr: I can see it from Konqueror at smb://192....
[10:04] <wrabbit> skwashd: yes, it says something like that
[10:04] <skwashd> |thunder: checking the uidNumber is a good idea ... chmowning is a pita
[10:04] <PapaPItufo> fyrestrtr: K3B won-t let me burn from an ISO image that is not local
[10:04] <wrabbit> |thunder: cool, thanks.  I'm new to partitioning so this is kinda good to know
[10:04] <skwashd> wrabbit: go go dapper reinstaller :)
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> PapaPItufo: copy it then.
[10:05] <wrabbit> hah
[10:05] <PapaPItufo> fyrestrtr: I have no local space left
[10:05] <skwashd> PapaPItufo: then burn a CDs worth
[10:05] <skwashd> delete it
[10:05] <pradeep> skwashd, looks like there's some issue with partitioning https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Sparc
[10:05] <skwashd> copy the iso over
[10:05] <skwashd> burn it
[10:05] <skwashd> restore from CD1 :)
[10:05] <pradeep> scrool down to 'Installer Options'
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> PapaPItufo: use smbmount
[10:06] <skwashd> pradeep: thanks heaps
[10:06] <skwashd> i had been looking but kept on coming up with usless info
[10:06] <avagant> Guys, how do I list all the mounted devices from the command line?
[10:06] <vlade33> when i try to install ubuntu on my desktop i run into a problem with my monitor... it just shows a bunch of lines and that's it.. i can't see anything.. this is when the cd boots and i go to install.. it goes through everything but when it loads i can't see anything.. i have two monitors and same stuff happens with both.. can someone please help me !
[10:06] <PapaPItufo> fyrestrtr: K3B wont let me burn unless it feels the file is local. But I cannot copy it locally because I have no space left. So I want to fool K3B by mounting the network share at a lower level (say fstab) to fool it into thinking it is local. Will smbmount do that?
[10:06] <wickedpuppy> avagant, mount
[10:07] <avagant> and that lists them all, how much how much space they have left?
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> PapaPItufo: yes.
[10:07] <wickedpuppy> avagant, df -h
[10:07] <avagant> you are the best.
[10:07] <avagant> it worked! i did it right this time!
[10:08] <vlade33> help!
[10:08] <PapaPItufo> fyrestrtr: great! now I will go 'man smbmount' then
[10:08] <avagant> I need a ciggarette now.
[10:08] <Rookie_> get a whisky ;)
[10:08] <avagant> wickedpuppy I had to ask because I totally just had to reinstall my system because of something I did earlier.
[10:08] <avagant> How do I change permission on the mounted drive?
[10:08] <StAfZe6> you tell me
[10:08] <avagant> to ME.
[10:09] <Rookie_> best way to learn is to make mistakes ;)
[10:09] <wickedpuppy> avagant, okie ...
[10:09] <avagant> I've made enough of those.
[10:09] <Rookie_> hehe
[10:09] <vlade33> can some1 help me with that monitor issue ? please..
[10:09] <avagant> I don't think I want to tell you how many times I've reinstalled Ubuntu in the past 2 weeks.
[10:10] <Rookie_> ohh, i know that kind of things ... to well ...
[10:10] <skwashd> pradeep: thanks ... i was trying to use the server installer
[10:10] <odyssevs> avagant, wtf do you keep doing to it? =)
[10:10] <|thunder> avagant; i did the same exact thing at first. now i love it.
[10:10] <jon_> how do i find out what version of the nvidia drivers i am using?
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> vlade33: what video card do you have?
[10:10] <pradeep> skwashd, that doesn't apply to you?
[10:10] <avagant> ok but seriously how to i change permissions/owner of that file?
[10:10] <vlade33> nvidia 6800
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> jon_: glxinfo will tell you
[10:10] <jon_> thank you, fyrestrtr
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> vlade33: are you running nvidia drivers, or nv drivers?
[10:10] <skwashd> pradeep: it doesn't ... but it seems simpler :)
[10:11] <skwashd> pradeep: i will see how i go with it
[10:11] <vlade33> i didn't even get to install drivers.. i just booted from the cd.. and after it loaded .. monitor went crazy..
[10:12] <vlade33> i was just able to see bunch of lines..
[10:12] <odyssevs> avagant, do you want to change permissions for a whole drive or what?
[10:12] <avagant> yah
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> vlade33: what kind of monitor is it?
[10:12] <pradeep> skwashd, you could file a bug report maybe the partitioner is not working
[10:12] <avagant> because the drive is an extra 10gb i mounted.
[10:12] <avagant> 10gb hd
[10:12] <vlade33> i have two dell monitors.. one lcd one crt..
[10:12] <avagant> I've done it before, but I completely forgot :)
[10:13] <skwashd> pradeep: i will ... but first i want to get this running ... but now i need to setup an anonymous ftp server ... grrr! :(
[10:13] <Rookie_> i wouldnt change the whole drive (hdd) - i would create a map and give the map the user permission ....
[10:13] <avagant> well really the only person who's going to use it is me.
[10:13] <killaz> hi guys I have problem watching a dvd on my pc...
[10:13] <killaz> the dvd plays ok..
[10:14] <killaz> but it looks like it keeps skipping jumping around
[10:14] <avagant> i've searched for the answer to the mounting problem i had for the past 3 hours, seriously.
[10:14] <fyrestrtr> vlade33: which is the primary? the lcd or the crt?
[10:14] <killaz> for example it plays at 00:33::45 and then it goes to 00:18:67 and then to 00:03:34
[10:14] <Rookie_> chown user.username /dir
[10:14] <odyssevs> He wants to apply that to a whole drive.
[10:14] <mnepton> s/./:/
[10:14] <Rookie_> ehh, chown users.username /dir
[10:14] <odyssevs> And anyway, he'll probably want -R as well.
[10:14] <vlade33> fyrestrtr: for win...crt..but i also tried to only use one .. and unplug the other one.. but still no deal..
[10:14] <avagant> so how do i set that up? haha
[10:14] <mnepton> sudo chown -R user:group /foo/bar
[10:15] <nobody_lv> chown -R user:username /dir
[10:15] <nobody_lv> hehe
[10:15] <avagant> so it would be chown -R skt:skt /media/hdb1
[10:15] <vlade33> fyrestrtr: this also happened with fedora.. however i was able to install suse with no prob.
[10:15] <vlade33> but i want ubuntu now :) and i really need to fix this prob.
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> vlade33: okay, by default, only one monitor will work. If you have nvidia, chances are you are using the 'nv' drivers. Plug the LCD into the primary port on your card, reboot the machine. On reboot, you'll see mirror images on both screens. Tell me how far you get this way. Do you get to the logon screen?
[10:15] <mnepton> avagant: and the mount point, as well (e.g. /media/my_disk)
[10:16] <mnepton> avagant: and sudo is critical
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> vlade33: I have dual monitors running with nvidia -- its possible :)
[10:16] <avagant> would it be the mount point and the original point?
[10:16] <pradeep> skwashd, good luck :)
[10:16] <avagant> or just the mount point?
[10:16] <romans5n1> more than once, apt-get has returned errors that it can't find packages that are supposed to be available through the repository... is there something I'm doing wrong?
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> avagant: why don't you just remount it with uid=1000,gid=1000 ?
[10:16] <odyssevs> romans5n1, try apt-get clean
[10:16] <avagant> Because I'm lazy?
[10:16] <avagant> Haha
[10:16] <avagant> It took me long enough to mount it.
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> romans5n1: maybe you didn't add the universe and multiverse repos?
[10:17] <mnepton> avagant: correct. and this is assuming that 10GB is ext2/3 or something else Unix-ish. not NTFS/FAT*
[10:17] <vlade33> fyrestrtr: i don't even see the loging screen.. but let me restart and try it again .. and i'll brb if it works/doesn't work
[10:17] <avagant> mnepton So it would be both points or the mount point?
[10:17] <warpzone> pardon, has anybody gotten root-tail or root-portal to work in Gnome? Its giving me hell :-P
[10:17] <avagant> chown --R skt:skt /media/hdb1 /dev/hdb1?
[10:18] <odyssevs> one hyphen. and he said "as well"
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> avagant: ermm, what tha heck is that?
[10:18] <mnepton> avagant: to do anything with the volume the mount point must be owned correctly, or you should remount with the correct uid:gid. if the filesystem on that drive is Unix-like, you'll need to change all the stuff on there, too.
[10:18] <PapaPItufo> fyrestrtr: I bow myself to you.
[10:18] <odyssevs> avagant, and put the next dir on a new line (with chown etc etc)
[10:18] <romans5n1> odyssevs: just did that... didn't output anything, but didn't give an error either... still can't find the package, though
[10:18] <tonyyarusso> How can I set mount options for removable devices not controlled by fstab?
[10:18] <wrabbit> honestly, I don't know how some of you can remember all these commands with the -h and the +R and all that stuff.
[10:18] <fyrestrtr> tonyyarusso: fiddle with udev options.
[10:19] <odyssevs> romans5n1, cat /etc/apt/sources.list and paste to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:19] <zool2005> morning all,
[10:19] <avagant> Sweet, it worked.
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> wrabbit: pwactice :)
[10:19] <PapaPItufo> fyrestrtr: indeed, the full command wassmbmount '//path.to.network.share' '/local/mount/point'ormount -t smbfs '//path.to.network.share' '/local/mount/point'
[10:19] <wrabbit> fyrestrtr:  and lots of it I'm guessing
[10:19] <avagant> wrabbit It takes alot, I knew the -R command because I accidently -R my /usr/bin file and lost sudo.
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> wrabbit: yeap.
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> fyrestrtr: Where are those?
[10:19] <odyssevs> Daverto, ask here again please.
[10:19] <warpzone> wrabbit it comes with time, I've been using nix for a few months and it gets easier and easier
[10:19] <avagant> So I had to go into grub and take my permissions away.
[10:19] <wrabbit> fyrestrtr: I'm trying to learn Python aswell.  Hard to learn two different 'languages'
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> tonyyarusso: not sure -- but atleast you know what to look for now.
[10:20] <warpzone> wrabbit now I loves me some terminal
[10:20] <zool2005> I need advice : should I get a pcmcia ethernet card or a usb ethernet adapter for my old advent 400MHz Laptop? Does anyone have any experience with either on Dapper? Thanks
[10:20] <wrabbit> :)
[10:20] <avagant> I got on a Windows machine, and used the command line there hahaha.
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> wrabbit: for python, grab the two Orielly books, and start making friends in #python.
[10:20] <avagant> I didn't even use any programs, just played around with the prompt.
[10:20] <mnepton> zool2005: PCMCIA. get something supported by MadWiFi. you in the US?
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> fyrestrtr: A very good start.  Thanks.
[10:20] <wrabbit> Using XP at uni, I ended up trying to ls everything
[10:20] <avagant> hahaha
[10:21] <avagant> I loves me some aterm and xterm myself.
[10:21] <warpzone> zool2005: I would get a usb, isnt pcmcia getting phased out and replaced with express card slots?
[10:21] <zool2005> mnepton: I'm on a wired network
[10:21] <avagant> Isn't my mounted drive in /media suppose to show up on my desktop?
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> zool2005: check the hardware compatibility list on the wiki
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> avagant: it is.
[10:21] <zool2005> warpzone: which has the best support with Ubuntu?
[10:21] <avagant> It hasn't yet?
[10:21] <mnepton> zool2005: oh, even better. pcmcia is the way to go. much broader support, dirt cheap.
[10:21] <zool2005> fyrestrtr: I did but I didn't find any reference to usb adapters
[10:22] <wrabbit> fyrestrtr: I've got one of the Orielly ebooks and other tutes like Byte of python etc. Almost two weeks and I can only do simple if and while statements. :(
[10:22] <avagant> it showed up when i listed mounted drives...hmm.
[10:22] <vega> hi
[10:22] <warpzone> zool2005 wait I'm an idiot, go pcmcia, everything nowadays has internal network suport anyways
[10:22] <avagant> maybe if i restart.
[10:22] <PapaPItufo> fyrestrtr: bye! and thanks
[10:22] <zool2005> mnepton: are there any brands that are well supported?
[10:22] <mnepton> zool2005: where are you?
[10:22] <zool2005> France
[10:22] <avagant> You know how long it took me to get the audio working right zool?
[10:22] <PapaPItufo> CA
[10:22] <avagant> hahaha
[10:23] <mnepton> d'accord. moment.
[10:23] <PapaPItufo> central america
[10:23] <zool2005> mnepton: but I'm British!
[10:23] <romans5n1> odyssevs: nm, I just pulled the package from the debian site... still kind of a conundrum why apt-get keeps doing this, but as along as I can get the packages someway, I'm not too worried
[10:23] <tonyyarusso> I'm on a laptop and also have a CRT monitor attached.  Can I start a second gnome session on that monitor?
[10:23] <martin72073997> Hi. Anyone there able to help a complete novice? I've just got my computer rebuilt and am trying to install Ubuntu. Something is wrong: either the Ubuntu CD I'm using, or the CD drive. Don't know which.
[10:23] <martin72073997> Started trying to install. Looked ok. Then hung on the time zone screen.
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> martin72073997: survey says ................ its the cd
[10:23] <wrabbit> martin72073997: What's happening?
[10:23] <Rookie_> and the prob is that you cant install it ... ?
[10:24] <wrabbit> martin72073997: did you burn it yourself?
[10:24] <vega> if it gets to the time zone screen then it must be the CD
[10:24] <zool2005> martin72073997: try another livecd if possible to rule out the CD Drive problem
[10:24] <martin72073997> Then I restarted the machine. Every time it gets "error reading boot CD".
[10:24] <warpzone> tonyyarusso: I don't know but I'd love to find out as well, getting a lappy soon
[10:24] <wrabbit> martin72073997: try burning it at a slower speed.  I find linux isos to be pretty fragile with default burns
[10:24] <romans5n1> martin72073997: does the cd have a self-check option? I know Dapper Drake does, but I'm not sure about previous versions
[10:24] <odyssevs> zool2005, http://informatique-pda.search.ebay.fr/ethernet_Cartes-PCMCIA_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfgtpZQQfposZCodeQ20postaQQfromZR2QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQga10244Z10425QQlopgZQQsacatZ81749QQsadisZ200QQsaprchiZQQsaprcloZQQsargnZQ2d1QQsaslcZ3QQsasltZ2QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs
[10:24] <david_> Saludos a todos
[10:25] <romans5n1> martin72073997: if it does, I'd start there
[10:25] <mnepton> zool2005: so would you be buying this in the UK or France?
[10:25] <coyctecm> nice link o_O
[10:25] <zool2005> odyssevs: thanks I'll have a look. I was just wondering about compatibility with Dapper
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> holy urls batman. Learn to use tinyurl.com
[10:25] <martin72073997> Yes, it's Dapper Drake, has a self-check option on the cd. Takes ages but says the CD is ok.
[10:25] <t888> problemm: on kubuntu my sound card works, but on ubuntu (and edgy also) it does`t. what`s wrong? i`ve integrated, intel
[10:25] <zool2005> mnepton: doesn't matter which
[10:25] <odyssevs> romans5n1, actually I would be worried if it's interfering with your updates.
[10:25] <martin72073997> I didn't burn the CD myself. Bought it.
[10:26] <vega> bought linux?
[10:26] <odyssevs> zool2005, shouldn't think there's room to worry - proven technology, supported years ago.
[10:26] <vega> oh the irony
[10:26] <fyrestrtr> martin72073997: ermm, bought?
[10:26] <zool2005> odyssevs: thanks!
[10:26] <vlade33> fyrestrtr: i booted and once it loaded the monitor went on crack.. there was a "safe graphics install" mode should i try that ?
[10:26] <romans5n1> doesn't seem to be... I installed dapper yesterday, and I've already had three update notifications since... all have completed successfully as well
[10:26] <wrabbit> vega, open source doesn't always mean free(as in free beer)
[10:26] <Ash-Fox> Can somebody tell me what exactly the differences between the 'server' kernel and the generic i386 one?
[10:26] <vega> it almost always does
[10:26] <odyssevs> Ash-Fox, the server doesn't include half the crap you'd normally want on desktop.
[10:26] <wrabbit> free as in freedom
[10:27] <zool2005> odyssevs: I only need it to get a minimal install of Dapper on the laptop starting with the server ed
[10:27] <vega> and beer isnt free, its just borrowed
[10:27] <warpzone> wrabbit but you can get the CDs shipped to you and not even pay shipping with ubuntu :-P so yeah free as in everything
[10:27] <martin72073997> Yes, on the grounds that I'm a novice and would rather pay a few dollars to get a cd which I knew would work... Stupid, eh?
[10:27] <janitor_x> can anyone help with lm_sensors?
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> vlade33: your system isn't installed yet?
[10:27] <Ash-Fox> odyssevs, alrighty.
[10:27] <vega> can someone tell me how to get my screen resolution up to 1280*1024? the highest ubuntu has in the menu is 1024*768
[10:27] <odyssevs> zool2005, pick one of the known brands. I can't see why you'd have a prob.
[10:27] <zool2005> martin72073997: I got 5 CDs shipped and managed to shift 3 of them to interested friends! Vive Ubuntu!
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> !fixres > vega
[10:28] <zool2005> odyssevs: will do!
[10:28] <romans5n1> vega: weird... I'm having that same problem
[10:28] <wrabbit> vega you'll have to modify xorg.conf
[10:28] <vlade33> fyrestrtr: no .. i can't install it.. when i boot and select "start or install ubuntu" after it loads monitor goes nuts!
[10:28] <warpzone> ooo I want to see too
[10:28] <vega> is that noob friendly? cuz im a bad n00b
[10:28] <martin72073997> The only reference to "error reading boot CD" on ubuntu.com is at https://patches.ubuntu.com/s/syslinux/syslinux_3.11-3ubuntu2.patch
[10:28] <romans5n1> cept, I need mine at 1280x800 (widescreen) ;)
[10:28] <warpzone> !fixres > warpzone
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> vlade33: then use the safe graphics mode
[10:28] <wrabbit> vega, not really but if you do a few searches, you'll probably find a tutorial
[10:28] <martin72073997> Anyone out there able to make any sense of that?
[10:28] <vega> thanks
[10:28] <vlade33> fyrestrtr: ok .. is it a bitch to enable dual monitor?
[10:28] <vega> google ftw
[10:29] <romans5n1> !fixres > romans5n1
[10:29] <wrabbit> vega: took me a while to get my monitor to run at the desired refresh rate.
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> vlade33: on nvidia? no, its not difficult (please keep it pg13 in here)
[10:29] <vega> im not worried about refresh rate, just resolution
[10:29] <vlade33> fyrestrtr: sorry.. :)
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> vega: if you have a crt, you should worry first about refresh rate, then resolution.
[10:30] <odyssevs> wrabbit, presume xorg.conf replaces xfree86blahblah.conf?
[10:30] <vega> why so, fyre?
[10:30] <warpzone> vega monitor explody
[10:30] <vega> o.o
[10:30] <wrabbit> odyssevs: no idea
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> because the wrong refresh rate can render a monitor useless.
[10:30] <vega> thanks for the warning
[10:30] <wrabbit> but I do recommend backing it up
[10:30] <mnepton> zool2005: http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=5579&GroupID=296  <-- that should "just work"
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> but hey, you'd have a nice fishtank :)
[10:30] <vega> what should i set the refresh rate to?
[10:31] <Rookie_> try @60
[10:31] <wrabbit> I ended up with no X for a short while
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> vega: whatever is specified in the specs of your monitor. Its not a number you guess.
[10:31] <odyssevs> mnepton, you're worrying me, shouldn't they all work?
[10:31] <warpzone> vega find the monitor specs online, company site will usually list em
[10:31] <wrabbit> had to keep modifying xorg.conf until I got it right
[10:31] <vega> thanks
[10:31] <janitor_x> vega, just add the resolution you want (supported by monitor/vga card) to the Section "Screen" Subsection "Display" of your xorg.conf...
[10:31] <rey> does anyone know how to connect to aol?
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> rey: use gaim
[10:32] <warpzone> rey man I think you might be alone on that one :-P or did you mean aim?
[10:32] <rey> i mean as in dial up
[10:32] <gzevspero> Hi, I'm a new ubuntu user, and am trying to repartition amy ntfs drive so I can load ubuntu on the new partition... it won't let me partition it though, neither in the partitioning portion of the install cd nor using gparted in ubuntu live. Any suggestions?
[10:32] <vlade33> user partition magic
[10:32] <vlade33> use*
[10:33] <Rookie_> ehh, gparted is the name of the prog in ubuntu
[10:33] <warpzone> gzevspero wotn let you? what is it saying?
[10:33] <warpzone> *won't
[10:33] <rey> gparted will mess up the ntfs partion
[10:33] <vega> where will xorg.conf be located?
[10:33] <rey> i reccommend disk director
[10:33] <kyja> I dont understand that graphic glitch at startup with my fonts before login.
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> vega: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:34] <tonyyarusso> I had more problems with partition magic than gparted.
[10:34] <vega> thanks
[10:34] <kyja> I guess I am being far to picky.
[10:34] <warpzone> rey doesnt matter if you're just clearing it though, just dont want to move it around :-P
[10:34] <janitor_x> vega, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ---- to gain write access to the file :)
[10:34] <gzevspero> It creates a new partition but doesn't give it the volume I specified... I want to resize my existign ntfs to 40GB and leave 40GB for the new one, but after I hit apply it just gives me 5MB for the new partition and the rest to the existing one
[10:35] <warpzone> gzevspero holy crap DONT USE THE PARTITION EDITOR with the live CD
[10:35] <zzyber> HI there, i have a problem with dual boot. I used Windows Xp on this machine earlier and only had one disk.  Now i bought one more disk, installed it as master (cable select) and my windows disk as slave on the same ide port. Im booting the system and ubuntu goes up fine but when i try to boot into windows i get errors. I have read that there could be a problem booting xp from a second drive with GRUB but im not sure. Any ideas what to do?
[10:35] <warpzone> gzevspero its bugged, will overwrite your windows mft
[10:35] <cherubiel> gzevspero: get the gparted live cd dude, non destruvtive on ntfs too... works like a charm
[10:36] <gzevspero> yeah... it's ok, my ntfs is blank. Is it better to reformat and repartition?
[10:36] <gzevspero> if I reformat and dual install, which should I install first - xp or ubuntu?
[10:36] <Rookie_> zzyber - switch hdd, set WXP disk as master and linux as slave ... easier for win to find it self again ...
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> zzyber: what error do you get?
[10:37] <rey> what does a compilation error mean?
[10:37] <avagant> How do you refresh the panels?
[10:37] <warpzone> gzevspero I would do xp, but it doesnt really matter. just that way the grub setup is automatic
[10:37] <mnepton> gzevspero: the drive is currently completely blank with no data on it?
[10:37] <gzevspero> there's xp on there but nothing else
[10:37] <gzevspero> so I don't really mind losing it
[10:37] <Rookie_> xp first and ubuntu second ... less problems for win that way
[10:38] <mnepton> gzevspero: do you have the alternate CD?
[10:38] <gzevspero> ok, and I should partition the drive from within the xp installation program?
[10:38] <warpzone> gzevspero yeah but word of advice, use Fat32 not NTFS
[10:38] <mnepton> better advice, use ext3 and the Win32 driver for ext3 ;)
[10:39] <warpzone> gzevspero with Fat32 you can write to that partition using Linux, NTFS not so much
[10:39] <vlade33> how about that ntfs-3g ?
[10:39] <mnepton> gzevspero: do you have the ubuntu alternate cd?
[10:39] <Kampsun> where is fortune quotes saved ?
[10:39] <gzevspero> oh, I see... so linux has a tough time with ntfs in general? mnepton: what's ext3?
[10:39] <Kampsun> are*
[10:40] <gzevspero> I haev the live cd and the install cd... is the alternate something different?
[10:40] <mnepton> gzevspero: ext3 = the most popular native Linux filesystem at present
[10:40] <Rookie_> microsoft wont let the sourcecode for ntfs go free ... thats why its some problems
[10:40] <warpzone> gzevspero: no its fine, Linux can't write to NTFS at the moment, only read. It can write and read Fat32 though
[10:40] <nathalie> hello
[10:40] <nathalie> i need help
[10:40] <gzevspero> ah, so when I create the linux partition it shoudl be in ext3
[10:40] <mnepton> gzevspero: the live and install are the same. the alternate allows for a text mode install that offers more options.
[10:40] <nathalie> my kayboard is being locked under a specific user
[10:40] <nathalie> in KDE
[10:40] <warpzone> nathalie so do I, I'm chatting here at 5am :-P
[10:41] <mnepton> warpzone++
[10:41] <mindmedic> I was just testing a new 8 GB ipod nano. The partitions get recognized and are mountable. However it doesn't show up on the gnome desktop. On the same computer I tested the older 2GB version which works as expected. Is this a known problem?
[10:41] <mnepton> mindmedic: format of the iPod?
[10:41] <avagant> So how come my cddrive shows up when I burn something, yet it's not mounted?
[10:42] <mindmedic> mnepton: i can access the partitions if i mount them manually
[10:42] <gzevspero> ah, I don't have the alternate then... would you recommend it for someone who's just starting though?
[10:42] <warpzone> gzevspero: just leave whatever you don't want as XP blank, the Ubuntu CD has good defualt parrtitioning setup. Just setup your Fat32 partition for XP and blank the rest
[10:42] <warpzone> mnepton :-P
[10:42] <mnepton> mindmedic: ah. so it's not you can;t read the filesystem. dunno, not an iPod user at all.
[10:42] <gzevspero> ok, sounds good. Will do. Thanks all~
[10:42] <mnepton> gzevspero: i would set partitons carefully
[10:43] <mnepton> gzevspero: how big is the drive?
[10:43] <gzevspero> 80GB
[10:43] <mnepton> gzevspero: how much do you usually use under Windows for apps only? (no data)
[10:43] <warpzone> nathalie: locked, what do you mean? can't use it?
[10:43] <nathalie> yes indeed
[10:43] <nathalie> after login it just locks
[10:44] <warpzone> nathalie: for all users?
[10:44] <nathalie> but when i log in as another user everything works fine
[10:44] <nathalie> no just one suer
[10:44] <gzevspero> dunno... not much for this computer, I really hope to use it for linux and only resort to windows when there's an app that doesn't exist in linux. Maybe 15GB for core apps?
[10:44] <nathalie> user
[10:45] <mnepton> gzevspero: so i would do this. a ~20GB partiton for Windows, 10GB for Linux /, 1GB for swap, and the rest for Linux /home
[10:45] <warpzone> nathalie: ah, does it lock for the default user you made or is this a new user?
[10:45] <vlade33> fyrestrtr: i installed it! how do i enable dual monitor?
[10:45] <vega> when using nano, how do you safe a file youve edited?
[10:45] <mnepton> gzevspero: then, install the ext2/3 driver for Windows. that will allow you to get at data in your Linux /home from within XP.
[10:45] <nathalie> for the default user
[10:45] <warpzone> vega ctrl-x then ctrl-y
[10:45] <vega> thanks
[10:45] <vega> ctrl-x, that seems so odd for a windows user
[10:46] <warpzone> vega you exit first then it asks to save so you say yes
[10:46] <vega> oh i see
[10:46] <vega> thanks
[10:46] <warpzone> vega np
[10:46] <mnepton> gzevspero: you can then wipe partitions clean and re-install OSes wihtout losing data :)
[10:46] <warpzone> nathalie lemme think, it might be a group thing but I'm not sure, one sec
[10:46] <gzevspero> menpton: so three partitions for linux, four in all? so do I first install xp, partition 20GB for fat32 from there, leave the rest blank, and create three partitions from the rest from the ubuntu installation cd?
[10:47] <cherubiel> gzevspero: yep
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> vlade33: first, install the binary nvidia drivers.
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> !nvidia > vlade33
[10:47] <nathalie> thnx
[10:48] <gzevspero> mnepton: what are linux /, swap, and /home for? should they all be ext3?
[10:48] <vlade33> fyrestrtr: ty
[10:48] <mnepton> gzevspero: XP *requires* NTFS. so, 20GB NTFS for Windows from the Windows installler. the rest is blank, unpartitoned space. get Windows installed. install Linux, creating 3 partitions. 10GB /, 1GB swap, the rest /home.
[10:48] <mnepton> gzevspero: / should be ext3. that's Linux's root filesystem. /home is where user data goes. also ext3. swap is swap. no need to format.
[10:49] <vega> okay editing xorg.conf didnt work, i dont think i edited it enough
[10:49] <vega> under the screen section it has a lot of sets of resolutions
[10:49] <vega> should i edit them all?
[10:49] <vega> i just edited the first one
[10:49] <warpzone> um, hey guys anybody know how to list all the groups a particular user is in X)
[10:50] <Flannel> warpzone: groups
[10:50] <mnepton> warpzone: cat /etc/group | grep $username
[10:50] <bun-bun> anyone using bitpim?
[10:50] <warpzone> Flannel / mnepton thanks
[10:50] <bun-bun> !bitpim
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bitpim - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:51] <gzevspero> mnepton: should they all be primary partitions, or extended/logical?
[10:52] <warpzone> nathalie: hrmmm. maybe not a groups thing.
[10:52] <mnepton> gzevspero: primary is fine
[10:52] <warpzone> nathalie: try going to the login screen and then hitting Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to the terminal
[10:52] <gzevspero> ok... thanks for your help :)
[10:52] <nathalie> yes and then?
[10:53] <MTecknology> when i try to boot to my ubuntu cd, it hangs and starts spitting out HD I/O errors pn certain blocks... I want to reinstall Ubuntu and clean up my mess of crap.
[10:53] <mnepton> MTecknology: re-burn the image at 4x speed max
[10:53] <warpzone> lnathalie: login as the user who is having keyboard trouble
[10:53] <nathalie> yes and then?
[10:53] <MTecknology> mnepton, it's a pressed cd from whereever they make em
[10:54] <warpzone> nathalie: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:54] <warpzone> nathalie: well, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:54] <nathalie> yes did that thnx
[10:55] <warpzone> nathalie it will re-setup your keyboard, try and see if it still locks
[10:55] <Tabias> I just installed xbindkeys and xbindkeys-config from synaptic manager, rebooted X but where can Ifind the gtk config (xbkindkeys-config)
[10:55] <nathalie> ok thnx i will go try that
[10:55] <nathalie> looks like it could solve the problem indeed ;)
[10:55] <nathalie> thnx
[10:55] <warpzone> Tabias: would you use xbindkeys? why not the gnome keyboard shortcuts?
[10:55] <warpzone> nathalie np good luck
[10:56] <Tabias> because I have a G5 mouse and the tiltwheel and 3th mousebutton aren't working
[10:56] <vlade33> fyrestrtr: which linux-restricted-module should i use ?
[10:56] <MTecknology> mnepton, so the cd i ordered had a bad burn?
[10:57] <warpzone> Tabias: OH X) in that case not a damn clue, I know KDE can account for a mac mouse but I don't know anything else
[10:58] <Tabias> yeah, xbindkeys has the ability to create some extra keys, but problem is, I can't find the config interface (if a gtk-stuff-thing is an interface)
[10:59] <highneko> I just installed kde-core. Using kde, I can't change my moniter resolution!
[10:59] <mnepton> MTecknology: if may be damaged. what kind of device is the CD? how is it connected to the bus?
[11:00] <killaz> guys I have some CRC check fails issue with mplayer.... anyone can help me with this
[11:00] <warpzone> Tabias: found a blog with some into, you might have to create a defualt config file first
[11:00] <warpzone> Tabias: check this out, see if it helps http://clau.sparetimegroup.net/index.php/2006/02/
[11:01] <MTecknology> mnepton, it's in a cd-rom bay... i installed kubuntu, so i'll just assume it's a damaged cd
[11:01] <MTecknology> mnepton, i think i'll just go to sleep while it downloads
[11:01] <MTecknology> gnight all
[11:01] <romans5n1> hmm... I went through the whole FixVideoResolutionHowto and no dice, where do I go from here?
[11:01] <Tabias> tnx warpzone will have a look at it
[11:02] <warpzone> Tabias: no prob I shoulve checked the forums too, prolly has more official support
[11:02] <mnepton> MTecknology: oh. if Kubuntu installs and Ubuntu does not, something is wrong with the CD. try gently wiping it with a clean, soft, lint-free something before you toss it.
[11:02] <MTecknology> mnepton, i checked the back
[11:02] <mnepton> and if anyone wants to rub *me* gently with a clean, soft, lint-free something ...
[11:02] <MTecknology> ...
[11:02] <mnepton> yeah, thought so.
[11:02] <MTecknology> if you wanna come over?
[11:02] <mnepton> :/
[11:03] <MTecknology> bring money :)
[11:03] <mnepton> eh, too lazy to be aroused. sorry, shoulda really thought about it first.
[11:03] <romans5n1> am I outta luck?
[11:03] <MTecknology> well, it's 4:09 and i get up at 7:00
[11:03] <MTecknology> gnight all
[11:04] <frodo> lfdlvjod
[11:04] <romans5n1> ew?
[11:05] <aylagain> hi there I've got a propbelm with Audacity - Error initializing audio
[11:06] <Cartas> Hi old chaps!  Having trouble getting my SoundBlaster working on Ubuntu... I tried to go through a walkthrough with isapnptools, but the ./configure command doesn't work correctly!
[11:06] <warpzone> alright bed time for me, night guys it was fun
[11:07] <BrainOf62> hi
[11:07] <BrainOf62> when i use sqlplus of oracle, and i want to view my old command, it take it ^[[A
[11:08] <BrainOf62> i'm in bash
[11:08] <aylagain> can anybody help - the error dialogue states that there was an error initializing the audio i/o layer
[11:08] <Tabias> warpzone:  just had to do xbindkeys-config in terminal.
[11:10] <BrainOf62> when the lasted version will sort ?
[11:10] <avagant> when you compile something, can you change what directory it compiles to?
[11:11] <avagant> in the process, that is.
[11:11] <Garbanius> hai
[11:11] <cherubiel> avagant: modify the make file
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> avagant: pass the appropriate argument to ./configure
[11:12] <^Down> Is there a way to extract passworded archives with Ark?
[11:17] <stlxv> hi
[11:19] <McNutella> does anyone know how I can reset my audio settings as something has screwed them up
[11:21] <Ademan> Is there any way i can get the latest stable release of inkscape without installing from source?
[11:22] <romans5n1> okay, I'm semi-new to this, so maybe this will mean more to one of you, based on this article I'm reading, I'm supposed to make a change to /etc/rc.d/boot.local  ... that file or path for that matter doesn't exist
[11:22] <Ademan> romans5n1: what are you trying to do?
[11:23] <stlxv> I have a php problem : when function __set($name, $value) is invoked, $name is a empty string, but $value has the correct value
[11:23] <Ademan> stlxv: paste your code somewhere
[11:23] <stlxv> __set() is invoked by $objA->$b=6;
[11:24] <Ademan> php 4 or 5?
[11:24] <stlxv> php5
[11:24] <Ademan> should be $objA->b=6; as far as i know
[11:24] <stlxv> how can i paste multilines here?
[11:24] <Ademan> its in the topic
[11:24] <Ademan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:24] <romans5n1> i'm trying to get my display to be at the optimal 1280x800 resolution instead of 1024x768... I've tried everything in the Fix Video Howto, and I'm down to 915resolution... I've changed one of the modes to match what I need, but still no dice... what I'm reading here says that I need to add "/usr/sbin/915resolution 38 1280 800" to "/etc/rc.d/boot.local", but the file doesn't exist
[11:25] <Ademan> romans5n1: have you edited your xorg.conf?
[11:25] <stlxv> $objA->b=6; could work correctly, but it doesn't call __set()
[11:25] <romans5n1> yep... that did absolutely nothing
[11:25] <timo> eaysubuntu installed but /usr/bin/gksu is asking keychain password, which is locked, what is that password?
[11:25] <Ademan> stlxv: ??? you're positive? as long as b doesnt exist within objA it SHOULD call __set
[11:25] <Tabias> how do I compile a .c file? ( from this site http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Mouse+Button)
[11:26] <Ademan> Tabias: gcc -o Output SomeFile.c  iirc
[11:26] <Ademan> romans5n1: can you make a paste of your xorg.conf?
[11:27] <romans5n1> where at?
[11:27] <Ademan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:27] <romans5n1> k
[11:27] <stlxv> #!/usr/bin/php
[11:27] <stlxv> <?php
[11:27] <stlxv> class Operations implements IOperations
[11:27] <stlxv> {
[11:27] <stlxv> 	var $a;
[11:27] <stlxv> 	var $b;
[11:27] <stlxv> 	public function __set($name, $value) {
[11:27] <stlxv> 		echo "Setter invoked: $name=$value\n";
[11:27] <stlxv> 		$this->$name=$value;
[11:27] <stlxv> 	}
[11:27] <Tabias> terminal saying gcc isn't a known command
[11:27] <stlxv> 	public function __get($name) {
[11:27] <Ademan> stlxv: don't paste inthe channel
[11:27] <stlxv> 		echo "Getter invoked: field: $name\n";
[11:27] <stlxv> 		return $this->$name;
[11:27] <stlxv> 	}
[11:27] <Ademan> Tabias: install it through synaptic
[11:27] <stlxv> 	public function plus() {
[11:27] <stlxv> 		return $this->a+$this->b;
[11:27] <stlxv> 	}
[11:27] <stlxv> 	public function __construct($a, $b) {
[11:27] <stlxv> 		echo "Constructor called!\n";
[11:27] <Ademan> stlxv: DON'T PASTE INTHE CHANNEL
[11:27] <stlxv> 		$this->a=$a;  // use $objA->$a to invoke __set
[11:27] <stlxv> 		$this->b=$b;
[11:27] <winterweaver> heye hey
[11:27] <stlxv> 	}
[11:27] <mnepton> mommy ...
[11:27] <stlxv> 	public function __destruct() {
[11:27] <romans5n1> why are you posting a whole script in chan?
[11:27] <stlxv> 		echo "Destructor called!\n";
[11:27] <highneko> In Gnome 2.16 is it possible to remove all the little ugly yellow tooltips? http://www.y3m.net/docs/gentoo-on-t42/images/wifi-rate-applet.png
[11:27] <stlxv> 	}
[11:28] <stlxv> }
[11:28] <stlxv> $objA=new Operations(3,4);
[11:28] <winterweaver> USE PASTEBIN PLEASE !!
[11:28] <stlxv> echo $objA->plus()."\n";
[11:28] <stlxv> $objA->$a=5;
[11:28] <stlxv> $objA->$b=6;
[11:28] <stlxv> echo $objA->plus()."\n";
[11:28] <romans5n1> yes, please
[11:28] <stlxv> if ( $objA instanceof IOperations ) echo "true\n"; else echo "false\n";
[11:28] <stlxv> unset($objA);
[11:28] <winterweaver> thanks
[11:28] <romans5n1> yep
[11:28] <highneko> In Gnome 2.16 is it possible to remove all the little ugly yellow tooltips? http://www.y3m.net/docs/gentoo-on-t42/images/wifi-rate-applet.png
[11:28] <Ademan> ajmitch: don't ban him...
[11:28] <Ademan> my bet is he couldn't stop the paste
[11:28] <highneko> He should be banned imo. That's alot of spam. Next time maby he'll use pastebin!
[11:29] <ajmitch> Ademan: I'm aware of that
[11:29] <Ademan> k
[11:29] <kyja> n00bs dont know what a paistebin is.
[11:29] <timo> what is pastebin, where to find answer
[11:29] <kyja> it is next to imposible to stop a paiste.
[11:30] <kyja> so I am on the side of those that lack the knolledge.
[11:30] <romans5n1> Ademan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25890/
[11:30] <cs02rm0> is it easy to bridge two network adapters in ubuntu?
[11:30] <cs02rm0> (any tutorials about?)
[11:31] <Ademan> romans5n1: and you've restarted X since you made the changes?
[11:31] <winterweaver> question on uninstalling packages....
[11:32] <winterweaver> I have Xgl installed, but wanna uninstall (cause it does not play nicely with cedega). But I cannot remember everthing which I installed to get it working >.<
[11:32] <romans5n1> okay bear with my potential stupidity... is that different than restarting the entire system? i.e. would X have been restarted in the process? if so, then yes... but if you mean specifically restarting the X server, then no... not sure how to even do that
[11:33] <winterweaver> how do I know what was installed, and what to uninstall
[11:33] <Ademan> romans5n1: yes, X is restarted whenever you restart your computer
[11:33] <romans5n1> okay, then yes, it has been restarted numerous times ;)
[11:33] <Ademan> and for future reference it can be done through ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:33] <Ademan> though that doesnt work on my system for whatever reason
[11:33] <Ademan> i just restart my comptuer instead :-)
[11:33] <Ademan> anywho
[11:34] <Nothing_About> hey can anyone help me out
[11:34] <Ademan> i REALLY wouldn't want to have only one resolution in my xorg.conf
[11:34] <hockyhair> how would i go about unziping every .zip in a given dir, unzip *.zip breaks
[11:34] <Ademan> i say you open up a terminal and do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and to select resolutions when it comes to that part, press spacebar on them
[11:34] <Ademan> !mouse
[11:34] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[11:34] <hockyhair> i have a dir with 100+ zip files all with diff names id like to do one cmd that will unzip the contents of every file in the dir to .
[11:35] <Nothing_About> when i started my ubuntu , Cd live it started to load and was going normaly as it should . Then a screen camp up Uncomprassing linux ... OK , Booting the kernal
[11:35] <Nothing_About> then some numbers came up as
[11:35] <Tabias> I tried installing enemy territory and I get the following error:  oem@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[11:35] <Tabias> sudo: ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run: command not found
[11:35] <romans5n1> Ademan: that was mostly out of frustration... I wanted it to be the only one so, hopefull at least that one would show up... but Gnome seems to ignore it entirely... the Screen Resolution cp lists 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480, none of which are in xorg.conf
[11:35] <winterweaver_> anyone?
[11:36] <Ademan> romans5n1: wow thats really wierd
[11:36] <nikin> i was not looking and i have made a big mistake.. i use a notebbok, and i was setting my power sawing stuff and i set to hibernate the system both on AC and on Battery.. so now if i try to launch kde it hibernates in 2 secs
[11:36] <pmj> is there a way to edit config files in the console you end up in if mounting the local filesystem fails? After mounting manually I tried to run joe and nano, but they both had dependencies and failed
[11:36] <Ademan> pmj "nano THeFile"
[11:36] <Ademan> or sudo nano thefile
[11:37] <Ademan> oh wait
[11:37] <Ademan> you mentioned that haha
[11:37] <pmj> yeah...
[11:37] <Ademan> sorry
[11:37] <romans5n1> Ademan: haha, yeah, and it gets weirder... before I edited xorg.conf, only 1024x768 was an option... after I changed everything to 1280x800, it decided to give me 800x600 and 640x480, too ;)
[11:37] <Ademan> thats what i get for not reading the whole thing
[11:37] <pmj> it complains about dependencies and can't launch
[11:37] <hockyhair> i double dog dare someone to acknowledge my question ;)
[11:37] <Ademan> pmj: i reccomend booting up a liveCD and doing whatever it is you need from there
[11:37] <winterweaver_> I have Xgl installed, but wanna uninstall (cause it does not play nicely with cedega). But I cannot remember everthing which I installed to get it working >.< ... how do I know everything to uninstall??
[11:37] <kon> can someone help me out installing Xgl/compiz?
[11:37] <Flannel> winterweaver_, kon, #ubuntu-xgl
[11:37] <pmj> Ademan, I can't use a liveCD since the motherboard isn't supported and the controller card doesn't see my cdrom