[10:38] <voicu> larson9999 you're right, rikioh try to edit the file manually to see if you get the same error
[10:38] <rikioh> i did everything but edit xorg.conf
[10:39] <arso> so go ahead and do it
[10:39] <rikioh> all i gotta figure out now is the commands to do it :)
[10:39] <Healot> man xrog.conf first
[10:39] <Healot> man xorg.conf
[10:39] <Healot> learn all the X server options and settings
[10:40] <rikioh> so when i get to the command i type man xorg.conf
[10:41] <larson9999> Healot: i'm thinking just see if he can edit it not to really change it.  i'm thinking the fs error is the problem and it's not the reconfig script
[10:41] <voicu> rikioh, use vi. to edit type a and then the text. escape to stop editing. :w to save and :q to quit
[10:41] <Healot> nano is more suitable for people who just migrate
[10:41] <voicu> first just try to see if you can change the file
[10:41] <Healot> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:41] <larson9999> should we really be telling someone that is new to use vi to edit a system file?  :)
[10:42] <Healot> i am not sure if vi/vim is installed by default with kubuntu
[10:42] <voicu> vi is easy if you stick to a esc :w and :q :P
[10:42] <rikioh> ok so im gonna go try and see if i can do this
[10:42] <rikioh> ill be back shortly
[10:42] <Chousuke> Healot: vi should be by default on ALL unixes. :P
[10:42] <_pedro> Hello everyone
[10:43] <Healot> yeah
[10:43] <_pedro> Since last update I cannot see preview of media files in the icons on konqueror
[10:43] <Healot> and migrating people will switch back to MacOS or Windows :)
[10:43] <Chousuke> Vi is a nice editor for quick edits though.
[10:43] <larson9999> voicu: nah, you really should read about vi first.  you can't even insert without learning a command.  i'm not saying it's not a good editor.  i use it all the time.  but for someone new
[10:43] <Four23619> im not a big fan of vi, but thats probably because i havent mastered it yet
[10:44] <_pedro> I am looking for it in configuration of konqueror but I don't know how to do it
[10:44] <MilhousePunkRock> voicu: You can even do :wq in one step
[10:44] <_pedro> any help?
[10:44] <Chousuke> you can get pretty far if you just know  :wq, i and esc :P
[10:44] <Chousuke> oh, and :q!
[10:44] <larson9999> vi is fine, you should just take an hour or so and learn the commands and how to navigate via hjkl
[10:45] <noiesmo> Hello all
[10:45] <Four23619> hello noiesmo
[10:47] <_pedro> isn't any idea?
[10:47] <voicu> i'm not a vi master but i use it because it's safer. you cannot make a stupid mistake unless you want to
[10:47] <Healot> _pedro: via the menu
[10:47] <Healot> Tools - Settings
[10:47] <_pedro> I am looking on it
[10:47] <Four23619> i should learn vi
[10:47] <Healot> Konfigure Konqueror
[10:47] <_pedro> what is the protocol do I have to active?
[10:48] <_pedro> Because I click on media and there is no response
[10:48] <Healot> did you install the appropriate programs?
[10:48] <larson9999> rikioh: can you edit xorg.conf?
[10:49] <_pedro> what is the apropriate programs?
[10:50] <Healot> what kinda of media are you referring?
[10:50] <_pedro> video
[10:50] <Healot> mp3? divx/xvid avi? mpeg?
[10:50] <_pedro> any video
[10:50] <Healot> _pedro: follow the links
[10:50] <_pedro> divx, avi, mpeg
[10:50] <Healot> !mp3
[10:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:51] <noiesmo> Using Ubuntu or Kubuntu is there a way to access or should I say except an invitation for M$ xp Remote Asssistant
[10:55] <rikioh> guys im in kubuntu :)
[10:55] <rikioh> im so happy
[10:55] <rikioh> i used sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:56] <Four23619> 3D?
[10:56] <rikioh> it loaded the file up and i went down till i found input device radeon x850xt then under driver it was ati... and i changed that to fglrx
[10:56] <rikioh> and now it works :)
[10:56] <Four23619> cool
[10:56] <rikioh> thank you everyone for all the help you have given me tonight
[10:58] <larson9999> i'm so proud my solution worked.  i think i'm blushing.
[10:58] <Four23619> such a nice community (K)Ubuntu has :)
[10:59] <rikioh> im using konversation right now to tell you the good news larson :)
[10:59] <Four23619> much better than the "rtfm" solution that some other communites have
[11:00] <rikioh> now its time to learn learn learn
[11:01] <grothesk> ** (process:5101): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[11:01] <grothesk> That massage apprears when installing kdebase-bin 3.5.4 of a kubuntu installation.
[11:01] <larson9999> Four23619: there are more and more channels these days that are not so mean.
[11:01] <grothesk> What should I do about it?
[11:01] <Ace2007> hi i got this error when running aclocal : http://pastebin.com/761676    Can someone please help me to sort it
[11:02] <taavi> hi
[11:02] <Four23619> i know, but i still find this communty to be very friendly
[11:02] <taavi> how can i get my system tray back?
[11:02] <taavi> i accidentaly removed it
[11:02] <abattoir_> taavi: rt. click on the kicker(panel)->Add Applet->System Tray
[11:03] <taavi> there is no option add applet
[11:03] <taavi> must i install another version of ubuntu to get that option?
[11:03] <Hobbsee> grothesk: ignore it, i think
[11:03] <abattoir> taavi: KDE? Is the panel locked?
[11:04] <abattoir> taavi: are you using KDE?
[11:04] <taavi> yes
[11:04] <abattoir> or GNOME?
[11:04] <abattoir> taavi: is the panel unlocked?
[11:04] <grothesk> Hobbsee: But my kcontrol crashes when opening some items there.
[11:04] <taavi> kde i belive
[11:04] <taavi> unlocked
[11:04] <grothesk> The hotkeys-area, for example, Hobbsee
[11:04] <abattoir> taavi: if you are using 'KDE' then if you rt. click on the panel, you'd see 'Add Applet to panel'...
[11:05] <abattoir> taavi: i cant think of any exceptions where you wouldnt see it...
[11:05] <abattoir> taavi: Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[11:05] <taavi> there's only add to panel optin, and under that i cant find the sys tray
[11:05] <taavi> ubuntu
[11:06] <abattoir> taavi: hmm, i think you opened up Konversation from Ubuntu, hence it redirected you here
[11:06] <taavi> mm
[11:06] <taavi> ok
[11:06] <abattoir> taavi: ask at #ubuntu
[11:07] <abattoir> taavi: hmmm, try 'Help->About KDE'
[11:07] <taavi> ok
[11:07] <taavi> thanks
[11:07] <abattoir> taavi: does it say anything about KDE?
[11:07] <taavi> no
[11:08] <abattoir> taavi: then i'm pretty sure you are running GNOME...
[11:08] <taavi> to my mind i installed kde but maybe not..
[11:08] <abattoir> taavi: as i said ask @ #ubuntu ...
[11:08] <abattoir> taavi: if you installed ubuntu, it comes w/ GNOME(unless you install KDE after the installation)
[11:08] <abattoir> Kubuntu comes w/ KDE
[11:09] <abattoir> taavi: was the system tray at the top right corner?
[11:09] <rouzic> Hi
[11:09] <nocti> hello, how do i update my kubuntu without an internet connection? thanks
[11:09] <abattoir> nocti: you can update from a CD... or even a flash disk....
[11:10] <taavi> i got it back
[11:10] <taavi> notification area it is called
[11:10] <abattoir> taavi: it is in the top-right corner?
[11:10] <taavi> yes
[11:11] <abattoir> taavi: ok, you are using GNOME :)
[11:11] <taavi> yes,sorry
[11:11] <abattoir> nocti: if you have a CD of the latest version of kubuntu, you can use 'apt-cdrom' to add it as a source, and update from it
[11:11] <abattoir> nocti: apt-zip is somewhat similar... for flash drives though
[11:12] <abattoir> ...among other things.
[11:12] <nocti> abattoir, i just need the non-connected box to have an updated list of files, so that when i do "apt-get install -qq --print-uris pkg" it will list the links to the packages
[11:12] <nocti> abattoir, and i can dl the packages on the office windows box
[11:12] <nocti> abattoir, but i dont know how to update it's pkg list
[11:13] <serenity> hi
[11:13] <nick_> hello! i've just changed from windows to kubuntu and it's very good!!
[11:13] <abattoir> nocti: hmm, so you plan on getting an updated list, then a link for each package, download them manually, and install them manually?
[11:13] <abattoir> nick_: cool :)
[11:13] <nocti> abattoir, that's the idea yes
[11:13] <serenity> where can i edit the colums in azureus? Put some out...
[11:14] <abattoir> nocti: trust me, downloading a cd iso, burning it, and using apt-cdrom is easier...
[11:14] <nick_> because i had problems with windows activation procedure
[11:14] <nocti> but if the non-connected box's pkg list is not updated, doing an apt-get install --print-uris wont work because it will not see the pkgs
[11:15] <nocti> abattoir, the cd iso doesn't have all the apps i need, if i need something like enlightenment or fluxbox, it's not in the cd iso
[11:15] <nick_> do somebody know i've there is a version of MSN messenger for linux?
[11:15] <nocti> nick_, gaim
[11:15] <abattoir> nick_: Kopete is a multi-protocol IM client that comes pre-installed w/ Kubuntu
[11:15] <farous> nick_: you mean amsn
[11:16] <nick_> yes because there are more funcions at a msn version
[11:16] <abattoir> nick_: as mentioned above, Gaim(another multi-protocol client) and Amsn are alternatives
[11:16] <larson9999> kepote
[11:16] <farous> nick_: kopete and gaim are pretty decent
[11:16] <grothesk> nick_: kmess or amsn are MSN-only-clients, afaik.
[11:16] <abattoir> nick_: if you want all the fancy stuff like whiteboard(or whatever it is called), then go for amsn...
[11:16] <farous> non though have voice chat :(
[11:17] <larson9999> i like kepote because web cam works
[11:17] <nick_> o
[11:17] <nick_> ok
[11:18] <arso> amarok still showing nothing
[11:18] <arso> donno wat the hell is wrong with it
[11:18] <_pedro> where is the directory where the configuration of konqueror is saved?
[11:18] <Four23619> amsn.. ill have to try that
[11:18] <Four23619> ty abattoir
[11:18] <abattoir> !info amsn
[11:18] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[11:19] <abattoir> Four23619: ^^^^ its in universe
[11:19] <Four23619> cool ty
[11:19] <nick_> i'm installing amsn
[11:19] <nick_> it's almost the same as msn
[11:19] <abattoir> _pedro: ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc and ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror
[11:19] <Four23619> just another nail for my Window$ partition :)
[11:20] <Four23619> sonner thats gone, the better
[11:20] <abattoir> nocti: you could always download those packages separately... instead of downloading everything(including the base system) manually
[11:20] <arso> nick_:   gaim is better than amsn
[11:20] <abattoir> nocti: but then again, its your call...
[11:20] <MilhousePunkRock> wb abattoir
[11:20] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hi :)
[11:21] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: was i gone for that long? :S
[11:21] <abattoir> :P
[11:21] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: No reply for almost an hour, gone 20 minutes ago
[11:21] <nocti> abattoir, how about dependencies? it's such a hassle to search through the ubuntu pkg tree and not knowing if you already have that library or not
[11:21] <nick_> hmm i've download it but when i want to open the file i get an error
[11:22] <abattoir> nocti: indeed, that's the problem you'd face if you did it manually...
[11:22] <nocti> abattoir, :)
[11:22] <jan__> hi all
[11:22] <_pedro> I cannot understand...
[11:22] <jan__> im new on ubuntu
[11:23] <abattoir> nocti: if you really want fluxbox/e17, it might be better choosing a distro which comes w/ that...
[11:23] <_pedro> I have confirmed that I have all the apropriates programs installed to see preview in icons at konqueror
[11:23] <farous> nocti: fluxbox is in ubuntu abattoir
[11:23] <_pedro> lately, I thought that in my pc there are 2 users
[11:24] <abattoir> farous: yes, but his computer has no internet, and he wants to download the packages manually... and sort all the dependencies...
[11:24] <_pedro> and the other one can see without problems the preview so I copied the configuration
[11:24] <_pedro> and still I cannot do it!
[11:24] <nocti> abattoir, :)
[11:24] <_pedro> looking for the difference via menu in konqueror, It is the same in both cases
[11:25] <_pedro> what can I do?
[11:25] <abattoir> _pedro: Settings->Configure...->Previews &....
[11:25] <farous> abattoir: i compiled fluxbox no hastle
[11:25] <abattoir> _pedro: check if you have all the filetypes you want checked...
[11:25] <abattoir> _pedro: another important thing is the filesize...
[11:25] <_pedro> they are
[11:25] <_pedro> what's wrong withe the filesize?
[11:25] <_pedro> 5 Mb
[11:26] <abattoir> _pedro: let's say you want to preview an image which is 7 MB, you wont be able to...
[11:26] <abattoir> _pedro: so make sure it is larger than the size of the files you want to preview
[11:27] <_pedro> I am sure
[11:27] <_pedro> and like I said
[11:27] <_pedro> there is another user in my pc with the same configuration and he can see it
[11:27] <_pedro> anyway
[11:28] <_pedro> I changed to 7 Mb and there is no change
[11:28] <abattoir> _pedro: what do you want to preview? images?
[11:29] <_pedro> video
[11:29] <_pedro> divx/xvid, avi, mpeg
[11:29] <_pedro> etc
[11:29] <abattoir> _pedro: images work?
[11:30] <_pedro> mmm
[11:30] <_pedro> let me see it
[11:30] <Healot> !mp3
[11:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:30] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[11:30] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[11:30] <_pedro> yes, it works
[11:31] <_pedro> if it were a problem of packages to install I guess that the other user in my pc couldn't preview video
[11:32] <abattoir> _pedro: see if you have Video checked in View->Preview
[11:32] <_pedro> damn!!
[11:32] <_pedro> that is the point!!
[11:33] <rikioh> im attempting to install java with kubuntu and i download both linux versions one was rpm and the other was regular... both were .bin files tho
[11:33] <_pedro> I kwew it was a silly thing
[11:33] <rikioh> i figured i would have to extract these with ark wouldnt i?
[11:33] <abattoir> rikioh: dont download the rpm, download the other one
[11:33] <rikioh> otherwise how do i install them
[11:33] <rikioh> i have both
[11:33] <abattoir> rikioh: oh, you downloaded both...
[11:33] <_pedro> thanks very much
[11:33] <abattoir> rikioh: btw, the repos have java too now...
[11:33] <abattoir> rikioh: take the .bin version
[11:33] <_pedro> ;)
[11:34] <abattoir> rikioh: open a konsole in the current directory
[11:34] <Healot> just chmod correctly
[11:34] <abattoir> _pedro: you're welcome :)
[11:34] <Healot> chmod +x filename > rikioh
[11:34] <Healot> next ./filename (if the file is in the current directory)
[11:37] <rikioh> ok so i go to run command
[11:38] <rikioh> and type chmod +x java.bin
[11:38] <abattoir> rikioh: not run command, a konsole(terminal)
[11:38] <abattoir> in the run command dialog, type konsole
[11:39] <Healot> make sure you change the current directory to where that binary file is located
[11:39] <rikioh> its on my desktop
[11:39] <rikioh> thats where the binary is
[11:40] <farous> rikosave yourself lot of tweeking and install  from multiverse repos
[11:40] <abattoir> rikioh: then as soon as the konsole opens up, type 'cd Desktop'
[11:40] <rikioh> no such file or directory
[11:41] <rikioh> its already at desktop i believe
[11:41] <rikioh> cuz when i type dir it says desktop exaples nano.save
[11:41] <abattoir> rikioh: ok, then execute the commands Healot said..
[11:42] <Healot> cd ~/Desktop
[11:42] <Healot> good old UNIX shortcut
[11:43] <rikioh> i think its already on the desktop healot
[11:43] <rikioh> cuz when i type that i get bash:cd~/Desktop: no such file or directore
[11:45] <abattoir> rikioh: cd<space>~/Desktop
[11:45] <Healot> space, honey, space, mind the space
[11:46] <digibre4k> i'm back...how the GAIM n' KOPETE works???how can we get friend 2 chat on there???
[11:47] <rikioh> ok so i did that and it switched to desktop... i then typed chmod +x java.bin and it did nothing that i can tell
[11:47] <rikioh> did it install?
[11:47] <rikioh> it didnt give me any error
[11:47] <rikioh> just a new line popped up saying ~/destop$
[11:47] <rikioh> desktop
[11:48] <Healot> now ./java.bin >> if this is the filename
[11:48] <Healot> yeah it should return to the next prompt line
[11:48] <rikioh> yeh it returned to the next prompt line
[11:49] <rikioh> so does that mean its installed healot?
[11:51] <rikioh> eh doesnt look like it did
[11:51] <rikioh> cuz i cant load this java applet
[11:53] <farous> rikioh: first there is a free java installed by default with kubuntu/ubuntu. Second the file you downloaded most probably extracted in your desktop dir. you need to copy it to its appropriate location. Third you need to copy the javaplugin file or at least link it to the appropriate dir so firefox/konquer can find it
[11:53] <farous> rikioh: you could have saved your self all this hastle by installing from the repos
[11:54] <farous> !sun-java-plugin
[11:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about sun-java-plugin - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:54] <paines> hi
[11:54] <farous> !java
[11:54] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:55] <rikioh> farous i dont know where it put it cuz theres nothing else on my desktop
[11:55] <farous> rikioh: did you use sudo when you ran this bin file
[11:55] <rikioh> i used chmod
[11:56] <bouncy> !tar
[11:56] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)
[11:57] <farous> then it was not installed in its proper place /usr/lib/jvm/java...
[11:57] <farous> the plugins should be linked to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[11:58] <rikioh> i dont have firefox
[11:58] <farous> rikioh: when you download the package dir then you take care of its configuration and tweeking
[11:59] <farous> rikioh: lets take it one step at a time
[11:59] <arso> wtf
[11:59] <arso> amarok
[11:59] <arso> when i go to playlist > shuffle
[11:59] <arso> nothing happens
[11:59] <farous> where was the java files extracted
[11:59] <arso> don know wat swrong with amarok today
[11:59] <rikioh> farous i have no clue
[12:00] <rikioh> i opened konsole
[12:00] <rikioh> switched to the desktop
[12:00] <arso> anyone
[12:00] <rikioh> and typed chmod +x java.bin
[12:00] <farous> look for it under desktop or under your home dir
[12:00] <rikioh> and then it went to the next line
[12:01] <farous> rikioh: you downloaded sun java right
[12:01] <klerfayt> is it possible to make kaffeine play x264 codec?
[12:01] <rikioh> java.com version
[12:01] <arso> how do i reinstal amarok
[12:01] <farous> jre or jdk
[12:01] <arso> HOW DO I REINSTAL AMAROK PLEASE
[12:01] <farous> arso: use adept
[12:01] <Riddell> arso: don't shout thanks
[12:02] <rikioh> jre
[12:02] <farous> good use konq too see where it is installed search under your home dir for a dir named jre or lib
[12:03] <asraniel> hi, i have a problem with french (and german) special chars in text files (lin      )
[12:03] <asraniel> *like
[12:03] <paines> asraniel, is the keyboard set to 105 keys + nodeadkeys
[12:04] <asraniel> when i open i text file ( a php file in that case) that has such chars in it, i see only wierd chars
[12:04] <asraniel> paines: there is no problem for the input, but to open and save files that have such chars in them
[12:05] <paines> asraniel, ahh. sorry, i thought typing
[12:05] <paines> asraniel, then maybe you are missing the german and french language packs.
[12:06] <farous> asraniel: might be the default font. had simialr problem here with arabic charactes
[12:06] <rikioh> ok farous it found a jre folder under usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.1-<IP_ADDRESS>/
[12:07] <farous> rikioh: that is the default java installed with ubuntu it is not the sun-java one
[12:07] <farous> rikioh: will work with openoffice but not with your web browser
[12:08] <farous> rikioh: you need to insall sun-java5-plugin package and you are done
[12:08] <asraniel> farous: i only found one french language pack, but after the description its for translations. but i install it anyways, lets see if it helps
[12:09] <farous> asraniel: most probably it is a meta package that will insall among others ther required fonts
[12:10] <rikioh> where are you finding this plugin package cuz all i can find are you .bin files one of which is an rpm file
[12:11] <farous> rikioh: open adept the package manager
[12:11] <farous> search for the package then install it
[12:11] <asraniel> farous: its just that i dont think its a font problem, because i can see the chars when i type them or if they are on a webpage, but not if open a text file that has been created under windows
[12:12] <Healot> !info sun-java5-jdk
[12:12] <ubotu> sun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 4868 kB, installed size 11548 kB
[12:12] <Healot> !info sun-java5-jre
[12:12] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB
[12:12] <farous> Healot: he need the plugin for the web browser
[12:13] <Healot> the jre then
[12:13] <Healot> the jre comes with the browser plugin
[12:13] <farous> nope there is a sun-java5-plugin package will automatically install the jre
[12:13] <farous> and all other requireed packages
[12:13] <farous> and make the necessary symbolic links
[12:15] <rikioh> so what should i do then?
[12:15] <farous> rikioh: it is advisable to search for anything you want to install in the kubuntu repos first. adept is a really nice gui to do that
[12:16] <rikioh> ok
[12:16] <farous> rikioh: you run kubuntu right
[12:16] <rikioh> yes
[12:17] <farous> ok to have an idea how to do thing in ubuntu it is advisable to have a look at help.ubuntu.com
[12:17] <farous> rikioh: do you know how to open adept
[12:17] <rikioh> im in it
[12:18] <farous> rikioh: do you have the extra repos enabled. universe and multiverse
[12:18] <rikioh> not sure what u mean by that but there is a huge list of upgrades or updates
[12:18] <farous> rikioh: when you search for sun do you see the sun-java packages
[12:20] <rikioh> no some chinese stuff comes up
[12:20] <rikioh> it says something about chinese
[12:20] <rikioh> but nothing about java
[12:20] <farous> rikioh: then most prob the extra repos are not enabled
[12:20] <farous> !repos
[12:20] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:21] <farous> rikioh: have a look at ubotu links
[12:21] <rikioh> k
[12:22] <farous> rikioh: i am afraid i have not used the gui for apt for a long time and can only help you through the command line. I though recommend you do it through the gui so perhaps others can help with using adept to add the universe and multiverse repos
[12:25] <farous> rikioh: here is the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:38] <kristyon> anyone know why kicker keeps crashing in kubuntu in dapper
[12:40] <|lostbyte|> kristyon, Remove all applets you added..
[12:40] <|lostbyte|> and see which one is crashing it.
[12:40] <cotroler> How do i uninstall gnome in kubuntu (i have kubuntu kde)
[12:41] <zan> hello! could someone please tell me how to set kopete to connect on start-up to a yahoo account? :D pls
[12:42] <cotroler> How do i uninstall gnome in kubuntu (i have kubuntu kde)
[12:44] <kana> cotroler: there is no easy way to do it. how did you install it by the way using apt-get or aptitude
[12:44] <cotroler> kana: by apt-get
[12:45] <kristyon> reinstall kubuntu
[12:45] <kana> there is no easy way try removing libgtk this will remove most of the gnome stuff
[12:45] <kana> sudo aptitude purge ~nlibgtk
[12:45] <cotroler> k tnx
[12:46] <kana> :)
[12:46] <kristyon> cant remove some applets
[12:46] <kristyon> any manual config I can edit?
[12:53] <joscha> kopete problems with icq?
[12:53] <Teejay_wp> I had problems connecting to icq a little while ago with Kopete
[12:53] <Teejay_wp> something about the client being out of date, now it is gone
[12:54] <Teejay_wp> :S
[12:54] <joscha> i have this problem now...
[12:54] <joscha> think i will have to tell all my friends to use jabber
[12:55] <rudiz> how to configure automatic upstart of an application ?
[12:56] <fritsch> Teejay_wp: it`s fixed in edgy ;-)
[12:57] <fritsch> Teejay_wp: which kde version do you user? 3.5.3?
[12:57] <fritsch> Teejay_wp: i compiled working kopete for this yesterday, could give you the packages
[12:58] <Teejay_wp> 3.5.2
[12:58] <rudiz> automatic startup of opera in kubuntu is it possible?
[12:58] <fritsch> Teejay_wp: should have been fixed yesterday
[12:58] <fritsch> Teejay_wp: try apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[12:59] <Teejay_wp> I am doing it now
[01:00] <fritsch> !restrictedformats
[01:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:00] <fritsch> thx ubotu (faster than bookmarks)
[01:00] <fritsch> :-)
[01:01] <Teejay_wp> can I ask a question, has anybody managed to open .ace files in kubuntu?
[01:01] <fritsch> Teejay_wp: yes
[01:01] <Teejay_wp> which program did you install?
[01:01] <fritsch> Teejay_wp: enable multiverse and install unace
[01:01] <Teejay_wp> thanks
[01:01] <fritsch> Teejay_wp: its in universe
[01:01] <fritsch> !unace
[01:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about unace - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:03] <pavlos> ubuntu (with kde) is one click away from Torwalds dream... Linux World Domination... hehe ... i like it
[01:17] <SeanTater> fritsch: !info unace
[01:17] <fritsch> SeanTater: ty
[01:17] <fritsch> !info unace
[01:17] <ubotu> unace: extract, test and view .ace archives. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.2b-3 (dapper), package size 14 kB, installed size 80 kB
[01:17] <SeanTater> fritsch: :D
[01:17] <fritsch> cool
[01:17] <nalpha> hello
[01:17] <SeanTater> nalpha: hello
[01:18] <SeanTater> nalpha: something you need?
[01:18] <nalpha> i want to ask you all how to use bit torrent in linux ubuntu??
[01:18] <fritsch> nalpha: just start ktorrent
[01:18] <nalpha> how?
[01:18] <SeanTater> nalpha: look in the K menu for ktorrent
[01:18] <nalpha> there is not?
[01:18] <fritsch> nalpha: alt SPACE, then type ktorrent
[01:18] <AL89> sudo apt-get update
[01:18] <AL89> sudo apt-get install ktorrent
[01:18] <fritsch> nalpha: sudo apt-get install ktorrent
[01:18] <SeanTater> nalpha: actually, better than that, go to the .torrent and clock it, it will open in ktorrent
[01:19] <nalpha> okey thankyu all
[01:19] <nalpha> already install ktorent
[01:20] <nalpha> just want to ask what is the relation between ktorent and bittorent?
[01:22] <tdn> I have recently installed kubuntu-desktop. When I installed it I wasn't sure that I would keep it, so I chose to stay with gdm for some time in stead of kdm. Now I am ready to use kdm in stead of gdm. How do I specify with login manager I want to use?
[01:22] <SeanTater> nalpha: bittorrent is a library, I think, and ktorrent and countless other torrent downloaders use it, along with the original bittorrent downloader, bittorrent.
[01:23] <SeanTater> tdn: is kdm installed, just not used?
[01:23] <SeanTater> tdn: if it's already installed, do the following:
[01:23] <tdn> SeanTater, installed, not used. Yes.
[01:23] <SeanTater> tdn: dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[01:23] <SeanTater> tdn: oops, but a sudo before that
[01:24] <tdn> SeanTater, ok. Thanks.
[01:24] <SeanTater> yw
[01:24] <tdn> SeanTater, then I need to log out and log in again?
[01:24] <SeanTater> tdn: you may need to restart
[01:24] <SeanTater> tdn: I don;t think logging out does it
[01:25] <SeanTater> tdn: I even tried to restart Xorg, but it did not do it either, sorry for the uptime killer
[01:25] <tdn> SeanTater, ok.
[01:32] <tdn> Where do I fint kcontrol in the menus?
[01:33] <Tm_T> tdn: iirc it's "hidden" by default or something
[01:33] <Tm_T> tdn: use run dialog ;)
[01:33] <puttz> can some one help me to open a rar file ? :)
[01:33] <Tm_T> or edit kcontrol.desktop
[01:33] <Tm_T> puttz: warez?
[01:34] <Tbol> hi everybody
[01:34] <puttz> Tm_T : im a noob on linux ..
[01:34] <tdn> Tm_T, where do I find kcontrol.desktop?
[01:34] <puttz> i think im ask in #ubuntu-se
[01:35] <abattoir> tdn: try System Settings...
[01:35] <abattoir> tdn: if you want Kcontrol, Alt+F2->kcontrol
[01:35] <Tm_T> abattoir: well, I somehow dislike it, it's messy
[01:35] <abattoir> Tm_T: heh, I think it is organised :P
[01:36] <Tm_T> abattoir: well, Kcontrol is organised ;)
[01:36] <abattoir> Tm_T: hi, btw :)
[01:36] <tdn> abattoir, I don't want to use "System Settings". I want to use kcontrol. Also the run dialog is not an option for my users. Why should this thing be hidden?
[01:36] <Tm_T> abattoir: moin
[01:36] <abattoir> tdn: hmmm, you could add a menu entry for it if you want then
[01:36] <Tm_T> tdn: because systemsettings replace it
[01:37] <Tm_T> abattoir: no need to add, just edit
[01:37] <Tm_T> tdn: wait
[01:37] <abattoir> Tm_T: yes, that too :)
[01:38] <Tm_T> abattoir: it's just hidden, no need to duplicate it ;)
[01:39] <tdn> Tm_T, hmm... So System Settings is a replacement for kcontrol and kcontrol is going to be phased out? I really hope you are kidding.
[01:41] <Tm_T> tdn: yup, kcontrol is replaced by systemsettings (by default)
[01:41] <Tm_T> tdn: /usr/share/applications/kde/KControl.desktop
[01:41] <Tm_T> use nano magic
[01:42] <Doodluv> what can i do about this? configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[01:43] <tdn> Tm_T, should I just change NoDisplay to false?
[01:43] <Tm_T> Doodluv: what cpp version?
[01:43] <Tm_T> tdn: hmm, I think that's it
[01:44] <tdn> Tm_T, ok. Thanks.
[01:44] <Doodluv> Tm_T: how do i get?
[01:44] <Tm_T> Doodluv: cpp --version
[01:45] <Doodluv> Tm_T: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[01:45] <Doodluv> sorry
[01:45] <Doodluv> Tm_T:cpp (GCC) 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)
[01:45] <Tm_T> Doodluv: hmm, interesting
[01:45] <Tm_T> Doodluv: what you're compiling?
[01:46] <tdn> How do I get more themes for kdm? And how do I switch theme?
[01:46] <Tm_T> tdn: kcontrol has the configure powers, kde-look.org has those themes
[01:46] <Doodluv> Tm_T: its a window theme, i think its really old source, tho..that may be the problem
[01:48] <Tm_T> Doodluv: ok, I see, maybe the problem is in the sources yes
[01:51] <tripppy> has anyone used all the KDE bluetooth apps?
[01:52] <Healot> i use the bt controller to get on the net
[01:53] <Healot> sending/downloading text messages
[01:53] <Healot> gnokii is kinda handy, even though xgnokii crashes often
[01:53] <zan> hello! could someone please tell me how to set kopete to connect on start-up to a yahoo account? :D pls
[01:56] <nalpha> anyone can explain me about active directory?
[01:56] <nalpha> in private message?
[01:58] <Hobbsee> zan: it's in the configurations settings.  tools, configure, accounts, auto-connect at startup, or something
[01:59] <zan> 10x
[02:09] <nalpha> anyone know what syntax to execute bin file?
[02:09] <xarkam> Salut
[02:10] <fritsch> nalpha: you mean "binary file" or "bin" from the cue/bin files? (isos)
[02:11] <nalpha> GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[02:11] <nalpha> i mean that
[02:11] <nalpha> file
[02:14] <Healot> chmod +x GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[02:14] <Healot> if that file is in the current directory
[02:24] <Sikon> anyone?
[02:24] <Healot> yup
[02:24] <Healot> ask
[02:39] <en1gma> hey all i just dlaoded kubuntu 6.0.6 amd64 version and am using the dvd as a live dvd. my question is. Is there a newer kernel that i can upgrade to and then burn kubuntu so it uses that on startup
[02:40] <abattoir> en1gma: so you want to remaster the dvd?
[02:40] <en1gma> yea i think so
[02:41] <abattoir> en1gma: yes, there is a newer kernel
[02:41] <en1gma> but can i do it on this same dvd cause i believe 3.6gig is being used on this dvd
[02:41] <abattoir> en1gma: so you just want to replace the kernel... and nothing else?
[02:41] <en1gma> so i can save the kernel on this dvd and then select it on startup or have it auto select it
[02:41] <en1gma> yea
[02:42] <en1gma> i need a module that i dont think is built in this kernel
[02:42] <abattoir> hmmm... i think it is possible... but you'd have to hack around a bit.
[02:42] <en1gma> im will to remaster a whole dvd if its easier though
[02:42] <en1gma> willing*
[02:43] <abattoir> en1gma: there is a development version of kubuntu....(might not be stable at all)... i'll check if it has a livedvd version...
[02:43] <en1gma> sweet and thnx
[02:43] <master_> hey can any one tell me howto to set zone minder on my ubuntu
[02:43] <kristyon> how do i get kde 3.53-2 on kubuntu?
[02:44] <kristyon> hear that the kicker crash is fixed
[02:44] <abattoir> kristyon: 3.5.3?
[02:44] <kristyon> cant find a repo for it
[02:44] <kristyon> 3.53-2
[02:44] <nalpha> how to transfer file between two computer in one network??
[02:44] <kristyon> already got 3.53
[02:44] <master_> to transfer file you must set up your ftp connection
[02:45] <abattoir> kristyon: afaik, KDE only releases 3.5.x ... 3.5.x-y might be a distribution's version...
[02:45] <kristyon> read it somewhere, maybe only is source then
[02:45] <abattoir> en1gma: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/20060729/
[02:46] <abattoir> en1gma: as i said, dont be disappointed if you encounter breakages
[02:46] <Hobbsee> kde 3.5.4 is out, but has problems on dapper.
[02:46] <en1gma> k thnx
[02:46] <kristyon> I keep getting kicker crashing, doin my head in
[02:47] <abattoir> en1gma: this is probably the latest you could lay your hands on :P http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/
[02:47] <kristyon> and I cannot stop some of the applets I installed, any manual way of del. them?
[02:48] <en1gma> man i sure wish i would have got that last night
[02:49] <en1gma> im not sure if i need to get it cause i see my wireless nic when i do a 'ifconfig -a'. it shows up as ra0 but i dont see p80211 and prism2
[02:49] <en1gma> do i need to modprobe those?
[02:50] <en1gma> 1 more thing if anyone dont mind
[02:50] <en1gma> when i "su" its asking me for the pass what is it
[02:51] <kristyon> your user password
[02:51] <abattoir> en1gma: its generally 'your' password, which when entered gives you 'administrator privileges'
[02:51] <niekie> su?
[02:51] <kristyon> u need to ised sudo
[02:51] <kristyon> used sudo
[02:51] <abattoir> niekie: super user
[02:51] <kristyon> use sudo
[02:51] <niekie> You need "sudo -i" to get a root shell.
[02:51] <kristyon> instead of su
[02:51] <niekie> Not su.
[02:52] <abattoir> niekie: aah, :P
[02:52] <en1gma> thnx
[02:52] <abattoir> en1gma: saw https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/prism2_usb ?
[02:53] <en1gma> ok prism2_pci i think is what i need
[02:53] <abattoir> hmm, found only usb
[02:53] <en1gma> i had to modprobe it on another distro to get my wifi up i think*
[02:53] <en1gma> it was in lsmod anyhow
[02:54] <en1gma> i know i have to have P80211 or p80211 (cant remember which one it was
[02:54] <en1gma> thats the wifi module i believe
[02:56] <Kr4t05> There aren't any data-recovery tools available in the repos, are there?
[03:03] <acojlo> hi, just to say you: I'm more happy with gnome than kde :)
[03:05] <Martijn81> now i spot the topic: what is the difference between sudo -i and logging in as root in crtl+als+F1?
[03:05] <Martijn81> *alt
[03:05] <en1gma> god dang had to restart
[03:05] <sorush20> hi guys I'm unable to get the konqueror to print correectly with in the margins any ideas how I can change this?
[03:05] <sorush20> correctly
[03:06] <en1gma> did you say anything about that p80211 mdoule
[03:06] <Martijn81> besides the wider screen :p
[03:07] <sorush20> I want to be able to print with in the correct set margins of an A4 paper, my prints go beyond the page limits..
[03:10] <en1gma> does "wlan" have p80211 in it
[03:10] <acojlo> does initramfs has anything to do with usplash?
[03:12] <tripppy> Healot, any thing to get BT and BT headsets for phones working
[03:13] <en1gma> i did a 'modprobe wlan' and then i did a 'iwlist ra0 scan' and shell is hanging how do i get it to quit
[03:13] <en1gma> i dod a cntrl c and a cntrl z but it not working
[03:13] <niekie> Did you try a CTRL-C?
[03:13] <niekie> en1gma, ah.
[03:13] <niekie> en1gma, have you tried looking for the hanging process and killing it?
[03:13] <en1gma> i can do a cntrl-x and see characters so it not hanging to bad
[03:14] <en1gma> nope havent tried looking is it lspcid
[03:14] <en1gma> i forget syntax
[03:14] <en1gma> pid
[03:15] <en1gma> its not letting me login as sudo -i in a new shell
[03:15] <en1gma> its hanging
[03:15] <en1gma> crap
[03:15] <en1gma> i gonna reboot
[03:15] <en1gma> brb
[03:15] <sorush20> how do I merge pdf files together?
[03:16] <damian_> why the hell does ubuntu not come with a firewall
[03:16] <Healot> sorush20: use Adobe Acrobat?
[03:18] <klerfayt> damian_: I think ubuntu wants to make it's own firewall, like mandriva
[03:18] <damian_> so it doesn't have a firewall because it wants to make one?
[03:19] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19471
[03:19] <damian_> why not just use an already existing firewall in the meantime
[03:19] <Healot> the firewall exists alright > iptables...
[03:19] <damian_> you need to be a pro to know how to use that
[03:20] <damian_> I'm talking about a fairly easy to configure gui firewall
[03:20] <damian_> suse has one
[03:20] <Healot> only the rule chains builder that you need to install (helps you building the rules)
[03:20] <klerfayt> damian_: I'm not a security expert but I guess there is no perfect firewall for ubuntu yet
[03:20] <yamal> damasel: you just need to use a simple script/gui to set it up for you
[03:20] <damian_> i'm using firestarter which uses a script to configure iptables for you
[03:21] <damian_> that's the closest thing i could come to an ubuntu firewall
[03:21] <damasel> ok
[03:21] <klerfayt> damian_: suse's firewall isn't interactive like for example Windows fiewall
[03:21] <yamal> all firewalls on linux are just script to set up iptables
[03:21] <yamal> one way or the other so what you have is fine
[03:21] <damian_> yes i know
[03:21] <damasel> :D
[03:21] <damian_> but ubuntu provides no wizard or anything
[03:21] <damian_> at all
[03:22] <Healot> iptables is the native traffic filter << the real "firewall"
[03:22] <damian_> klerfayt what do you mean by not interactive
[03:22] <Healot> tried firestarter or shorewall yet?
[03:22] <damian_> i did
[03:22] <damian_> the former
[03:22] <eliadosom> do anybody to try enable writing in ntfs?
[03:23] <en1gma> when i do i hard restart or even come back from an improper shutdown how does kubuntu know i had an error
[03:23] <en1gma> its writing shiat to my HD?
[03:24] <en1gma> wtf is that shit
[03:24] <en1gma> i dont want it touching my HD at all
[03:24] <en1gma> is there a boot switch for no sata
[03:25] <en1gma> its got to be writing something to my hd otherwise it would not know it had an improper shutdown
[03:25] <en1gma> HELLO
[03:25] <en1gma> is someone here that can answer that Q
[03:26] <tvo> probably it only writes something on a succesful shutdown
[03:27] <Healot> en1gma: each time you boot, Linux kernel marks your disk to be dirty
[03:27] <Healot> each successful shutdown/restart the disk is mark clean
[03:27] <Healot> so, in a situation when you improperly shut down the PC, the disk is marked dirty, so Linux knows something went wrong
[03:28] <klerfayt> is it possible to use top command to only monitor one process?
[03:28] <klerfayt> Healot: does improper shut down damage harddisk physically?
[03:30] <en1gma> disc = dvd?
[03:30] <Healot> klerfayt: in most cases no, but i've seen worse
[03:30] <en1gma> not hard disc?
[03:31] <tripppy> Healot, any thing to get BT and BT headsets for phones working?
[03:31] <Healot> microsoft term disc=DVD/VCD/audio CD/CD-ROM, disk=the huge non-volatile, the harddisk
[03:31] <klerfayt> Healot: what about filesystem - will get damaged on hard shut down?
[03:32] <Healot> tripppy: bluetooth headphone? refer to your phone manual :-
[03:32] <Healot> klerfayt: that's where thing like chkdsk comes handy
[03:32] <Healot> it repairs your filesystem
[03:32] <en1gma> wow thats a nice feature then
[03:32] <en1gma> :)
[03:32] <en1gma> i like that
[03:33] <en1gma> i have 4
[03:33] <en1gma> sata 250 gigs in a raid0
[03:33] <en1gma> so i dont want anything messing with that
[03:34] <tripppy> Healot, i have a nokia bluetooth headset. i want it to work wit a USB BT dongle.
[03:35] <Healot> that thing is for phone connection... if you're thinking about GPRS modem or file transfer, sure I can help a bit
[03:35] <tripppy> no. i want the headset to be like a headset, skype VOIP,,, etc.
[03:36] <Healot> okay
[03:36] <Healot> get you...
[03:36] <en1gma> now i did a modprobe for rt61 a few reboots back cause (i dont think i see it in the 'lsmod') command. but now when i reboot it it loaded up. does it write that to dvd too?
[03:37] <en1gma> this is wierd
[03:37] <Healot> the dongle is plugged? tripppy?
[03:37] <en1gma> or did i just miss it in lsmod before
[03:37] <Healot> let's start scanning the BT device
[03:39] <en1gma> my dmesg is showing BT info does that mean my mb has BT (i just got this mb about a week ago and never knew it had it)
[03:39] <Healot> en1gma: only on volatile disks...
[03:41] <Healot> en1gma: a portable PC?
[03:43] <en1gma> no but its a nice MB
[03:44] <en1gma> asus an832-sli deluxe
[03:44] <en1gma> $220
[03:44] <en1gma> i see BT core is getting loaded up in dmesg
[03:45] <en1gma> [   76.360867]  rt61: module license 'unspecified' taints kernel.
[03:45] <en1gma> [  100.580753]  ra0 (WE) : Driver using old /proc/net/wireless support, please fix driver !
[03:45] <en1gma> i definately need the newer kernel
[03:47] <Healot> "uname -r" enigma
[03:48] <adam__> I still can't figure out how to install firefox (i'm new to linux) Kubuntu only came with Konqueror installed
[03:49] <adam__> any1 help? plz?
[03:49] <en1gma> "uname -r" enigma whats that
[03:50] <en1gma> 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic
[03:50] <BazziR> adam__: go to adept and install mozilla-firefox
[03:51] <en1gma> is there any possible way i can just dload a new kernel and tell kubuntu to load that new kernel upon boot
[03:51] <en1gma> i know its fixed in newer versions (not sure which one but i read in a fix log that it was fixed)
[03:51] <Healot> have you enabled all the repos, adam__? make sure you have enabled the universe, multiverse, next update th repos list
[03:52] <adam__> ok....I clicked Request Install now what?
[03:53] <gianluca> hello all
[03:53] <en1gma> hi
[03:54] <adam__> now what?
[03:54] <gianluca> i'm having crashes after crashes using kubuntu on IA32 and IA64...and i'm disappointed about using something different as desktop OS than this, suggestions?
[03:55] <Healot> adam__: click "Commit changes" button
[03:56] <adam__> ok. now it asked me to put linux CD in drive....got it. let's c if it works
[03:56] <en1gma> Healot 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic
[03:57] <en1gma> ,he test
[03:57] <Healot> uname -r
[03:57] <en1gma> whats the nick completor in Konversation
[03:57] <en1gma> 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic
[03:57] <Healot> not the latest kernel, en1gma
[03:58] <DaSkreech> Tab?
[03:58] <Healot> 15-25 is the latest iirc
[03:58] <en1gma> i know but im not sure how to go about updating cause im only using a live dvd
[03:58] <en1gma> is there a change log i can read for -24 and -25
[03:59] <en1gma> i will see if that module has been fixed but i not sure it was that soon
[03:59] <Healot> yeah
[03:59] <en1gma> i think it happened in 2.16.xx
[03:59] <en1gma> 2.6.16.xx
[03:59] <en1gma> the changelogs on www.kernel.org?
[03:59] <adam__> ya it worked. thanks for the help
[04:00] <Healot> for ubuntu at packages.ubuntu.com
[04:00] <rulz> is there kde-core present in the kubuntu cdrom supplied? plz anybody
[04:00] <DaSkreech> rulz: Huh?
[04:00] <Healot> rulz - kubuntu-desktop has kde in it...
[04:00] <Healot> the core KDE packages is in it
[04:01] <en1gma> i only see change logs for <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:01] <rulz> but i dont see kde-core installed in adept
[04:01] <Healot> rulz: there isn't any, it is called kubuntu-desktop
[04:02] <rulz> and im not able to compile it says there isnt kde headers
[04:02] <Healot> you need the development library
[04:02] <Healot> !find libkde
[04:02] <ubotu> Found: libkdeedu-dev, libkdeedu3, libkdegames-dev, libkdegames1, libkdepim1-dev (and 4 others)
[04:02] <Healot> qt headers for you
[04:03] <Healot> !info libqt3-mt-dev
[04:03] <ubotu> libqt3-mt-dev: Qt development files (Threaded). In repository main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 160 kB
[04:05] <en1gma> shouldnt i be using  linux-image-2.6.15-25-amd64-k8 instead of linux-image-2.6.15-25-amd64-generic [amd64]  well im using 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic but you know what i mean
[04:05] <en1gma> amd64-k8 instead of generic
[04:06] <en1gma> i have an x2 proc maybe thats why im in generic
[04:06] <burepe> After installing PHP
[04:06] <burepe> You may need to increase the memory limit that PHP imposes on a script. Edit the /etc/php5/apache2/php2.ini file and increase the memory_limit value.
[04:06] <burepe> oops
[04:08] <en1gma> so many Qs so few As
[04:08] <burepe> I am reading a faq to set up a LAMP server and it says "After installing PHP You may need to increase the memory limit that PHP imposes on a script. Edit the /etc/php5/apache2/php2.ini file and increase the memory_limit value. " Do I need to do that? If so, how?
[04:08] <burepe> I am reading a faq to set up a LAMP server and it says "After installing PHP
[04:08] <burepe> 	burepe	You may need to increase the memory limit that PHP imposes on a script. Edit the /etc/php5/apache2/php2.ini file and increase the memory_limit value. " Do I need to do that? If so, how?
[04:08] <Healot> en1gma: sure, if you want to
[04:08] <burepe> really sorry about that
[04:08] <en1gma> man i think i dloaded the wrong dvd.iso maybe
[04:08] <burepe> The question is in there but it repeated
[04:08] <Healot> en1gma: it's on the net
[04:09] <en1gma> i didnt know there were 2 versions
[04:09] <en1gma> i just thought it was amd64
[04:09] <en1gma> i dont think i dlaoded a generic
[04:09] <en1gma> maybe i need to select a kernel
[04:09] <en1gma> upon boot
[04:09] <en1gma> of live dvd
[04:10] <Healot> !info linux-amd640k8
[04:10] <ubotu> Package linux-amd640k8 does not exist in dapper
[04:10] <Healot> !info linux-amd64-k8
[04:10] <ubotu> Package linux-amd64-k8 does not exist in dapper
[04:10] <en1gma> O
[04:10] <Healot> !find linux-amd64
[04:10] <ubotu> No packages matching 'linux-amd64' could be found
[04:10] <Healot> !find linux
[04:10] <ubotu> Found: doc-linux-html, doc-linux-text, klogd, libaltlinuxhyph-dev, libselinux1 (and 145 others)
[04:10] <Healot> !find linux-amd64
[04:10] <ubotu> No packages matching 'linux-amd64' could be found
[04:10] <Healot> !find linux-kernel
[04:10] <ubotu> Found: klogd, linux-kernel-headers, inetutils-syslogd, metalog, socklog-run (and 2 others)
[04:10] <en1gma> k so generic is prob just fine
[04:11] <Healot> k8 is more optimized for ACPI, the CPU timing etc
[04:11] <en1gma> i thought all amd64 are K8
[04:12] <en1gma> i get what you are saying....its still more optimized
[04:12] <Healot> amd64-generic kernels are for AMD64 (athlon xp 64) and Pentium with EMT64
[04:12] <Healot> P4 with EMT64
[04:12] <en1gma> oh shiat so i do have the wrong one
[04:12] <en1gma> fawk
[04:12] <Healot> k8 is AMD64 (opetron/athlon)
[04:13] <Healot> en1gma: correct kernel
[04:13] <Healot> k8 is MORE optimized though for AMD64 (opetron/athlon)
[04:13] <en1gma> i need to reget the whole dvd again.....im not gonna be able to do that. cause im gonna be at hotels for next few days and they have crappy dlaod speeds
[04:13] <en1gma> i got lucky last night at this hotel and was getting 200KBs
[04:13] <en1gma> x2 is k8 right
[04:14] <Healot> x2 yes
[04:14] <Healot> SMP K8
[04:14] <en1gma> i think i gonna have to do it a diff way
[04:14] <en1gma> cant i just dload the newer -25 kernel and rename it to whats the kernel is now and remake an iso then burn it
[04:15] <Healot> !info linux-amd64-k8
[04:15] <ubotu> Package linux-amd64-k8 does not exist in dapper
[04:15] <rulz> i ve installed kubuntu from cdrom and there isnt any kde-core or such libs installed what a mess?
[04:15] <en1gma> oh so thats ok then what about dlaoding the newer -25 generic and doing what i said above
[04:15] <Healot> there is no developmen library in the CDrom, en1gma
[04:16] <Healot> you need to download from the Internet repos...
[04:16] <en1gma> and is there an kubunto option to re-burn a dvd with that newer -25 generic kernel
[04:17] <en1gma> i got to figure a way to just dload the kernel (i dont think ill be able to dload the whole new -25 generic dvd again
[04:17] <rulz> its really pathetic to see that and the cdrom have space for windows programs!!!!!!
[04:18] <en1gma> like right now is there a kubunto option to dload and use that newer kernel
[04:18] <trappist> how to get a change to /etc/hostname to take effect?
[04:18] <en1gma> or do i have to get the whole new -25 generic iso
[04:18] <en1gma> i know debian makes it ez to upgrade a kernel (from what ive read)
[04:18] <en1gma> i used to use slackware alot
[04:19] <WiPin> hi all :)
[04:19] <en1gma> so i know my way around "make", "make modules" and "make install" then move the bzimage to /boot
[04:20] <trappist> en1gma: make modules is deprecated, and make install handles the bzimage for you
[04:20] <en1gma> and howto do a kernel .confgure
[04:20] <trappist> 'make' and 'make install' is all you need, but I prefer 'make-kpkg' to build a deb
[04:20] <en1gma> well im just saying (using this live dvd) is there a way to use the newer -25 amd64 generic and then burn it to dvd so it uses that one all the time upon boot
[04:21] <n3m3s1s4u> heya
[04:21] <n3m3s1s4u> anyone here clued up on tightvncserver?
[04:21] <en1gma> or maybe even booting into windows and dloading the newer -25 kernel and adding it to the kubunto live dvd and being able to select it upon boot
[04:21] <xbehave2> where do programs go when i install them?
[04:22] <larson9999> xbehave2: that depends.  you can do 'where program_name' to see where the executable is.
[04:22] <en1gma> i do not want to have to dload a whole other 3.5gigs just to use a newer kernel on this live dvd
[04:22] <larson9999> that works most of the time.
[04:22] <en1gma> usually programs goto /bin /usr/bin
[04:23] <en1gma> in slackware
[04:23] <Healot> and ubuntu
[04:23] <en1gma> i was hoping so cause its linux based but i wasnt sure if i stepped in poop or not
[04:24] <xbehave2> it was in user/bin thanks
[04:24] <en1gma> im not a complete noob but i am to kubunto....slackware is wrather old school and dont have as many features (as far updating and installing new kernels) as alot of these newer distros
[04:25] <en1gma> we just goto -current and dload what we want then do "installpkg packagename"
[04:25] <en1gma> :)
[04:26] <en1gma> and for kernels its all manual
[04:27] <en1gma> im hoping kubuntu has an ez way for me to dload the new kernel (while using the live dvd) and being able to do it all there and burn new dvd or multisession this one
[04:27] <en1gma> i might be asking for to much
[04:27] <en1gma> but i dont want to dload 3.5 gigs for a new kernel (first because thats alot and 2nd i dont think i will be able to at these hotels)
[04:27] <DaSkreech> en1gma: You'd have to remaster it I'd guess. Why do you need the new Kernel?
[04:28] <en1gma> cause my wifi is broken with this version
[04:28] <gplfighter> hi
[04:29] <gplfighter> can i change the logon screen theme?
[04:29] <en1gma> see this hotels wifi was down so they gave me a lan cord to plug into there wall (i cant believe its hardwired) and most hotels just have wifi connection about 20-30KBs
[04:29] <larson9999> slackware is still on 2.4, right?  can you use 2.6 with it and 2.4 is just the default?
[04:29] <en1gma> slackware -current uses newer
[04:29] <DaSkreech> gplfighter: Yes
[04:29] <en1gma> its been about 6mos since i used slackware
[04:29] <gplfighter> and how?
[04:29] <en1gma> -testing i think is where the kernels are
[04:29] <larson9999> what i hear is that the updating pace of slackware makes debian look like a speeding bullet
[04:29] <en1gma> slackware is fun to manually update the kernel
[04:29] <en1gma> :)
[04:30] <en1gma> makes me feel like a code monkey
[04:30] <en1gma> seeing it compile from my commands
[04:30] <larson9999> i've never hear anything nice about slackware so i never tried it
[04:31] <en1gma> slackware is more lower level to linux i think
[04:31] <en1gma> which can be neat
[04:31] <en1gma> if you like the cli
[04:31] <damian_> slackware is good if you like being frustrated every 4 seconds
[04:31] <en1gma> lol
[04:31] <en1gma> it lets you learn linux very well
[04:31] <en1gma> :)
[04:31] <damian_> have you used it?
[04:32] <en1gma> being in config files
[04:32] <damian_> i heard it's a pain
[04:32] <en1gma> ive only used slackware off and on for last 4years
[04:32] <en1gma> yea but when you learn it you know almost any linux distro
[04:32] <damian_> what's keeping you from using it continuously
[04:32] <en1gma> these live cds are a bit different
[04:32] <en1gma> im a gamer
[04:32] <damian_> oh i see
[04:32] <en1gma> so i always have to back to windows
[04:32] <damian_> a sad world we live in
[04:32] <en1gma> thats what makes these live cds great
[04:33] <en1gma> i dont have to touch my hd (windows for gaming) and i can pop in a live dvd when i want to surf etc..
[04:33] <damian_> the slackware live cds?
[04:33] <damian_> or ubuntu ones?
[04:33] <en1gma> but my wifi is broken in this kernel
[04:33] <en1gma> i dont think slax are that great
[04:33] <en1gma> and not 64bit
[04:34] <en1gma> slamd64 isnt kept up to date verywell....just one guy doing all the 64bit compiling
[04:34] <en1gma> www.slamd53.com
[04:34] <en1gma> www.slamd64.com *
[04:34] <en1gma> first thing on site is donations
[04:35] <damian_> lol
[04:35] <en1gma> :)
[04:35] <en1gma> i hear good about kubuntu
[04:35] <burepe> I am installing a LAMP server using a faq from ubotu. I need another faq to tell me how to use it. Like ports, and firewalls and whatever. Any suggestions?
[04:35] <en1gma> i was using dsl and dsl-n but they dont do 64bit either
[04:35] <Tm_T> !firewall
[04:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[04:35] <en1gma> dsl is a great little distro
[04:35] <damian_> Tm_T what does the exclamation mark in fron of those words mean
[04:36] <larson9999> en1gma: linux has plenty of games for me.  i'm afraid until more think like me, linux will continue not to get the latest and greatest.
[04:36] <en1gma> ive gamed on linux but its usually a biatch to get it up and running right
[04:36] <en1gma> even enemy territory
[04:36] <Tm_T> damian_: controlmark, so that bot knows I'm talking to him
[04:36] <en1gma> with its sound problems
[04:36] <damian_> ok
[04:36] <DaSkreech> burepe: What are you looking for?
[04:36] <Tm_T> en1gma: nah, no sound problems here
[04:37] <en1gma> and using wine and cedega is just a pain
[04:37] <en1gma> i always had to add a /snd command for alsa
[04:37] <en1gma> or somethign
[04:37] <Tm_T> heh
[04:37] <en1gma> :)
[04:37] <larson9999> en1gma: did that work?
[04:37] <burepe> Das
[04:37] <en1gma> it did work
[04:37] <burepe> oops
[04:37] <larson9999> en1gma: adding /snd for sound meets your definition of a pain?
[04:38] <klerfayt> besides Windows you need good hardware for gaming
[04:38] <en1gma> well not really...i said wine and cedega were the pains
[04:38] <en1gma> :P
[04:38] <en1gma> and low performance
[04:38] <burepe> DaSkreech: I want to install drupal. Is there anything I have to do before that?
[04:38] <en1gma> i never get the high frame rates like i do in windows
[04:38] <en1gma> and alot of games are directx now
[04:39] <en1gma> maybe ps3 will bring opengl games back cause it will be using linux i read
[04:39] <larson9999> en1gma: i just decided not to use anything that doesn't run in linux and to write companies i think should make things that do.
[04:39] <DaSkreech> burepe: Find Drupal in adept. Click request Install
[04:39] <en1gma> its gonna take someone like sony to bring a good api to linux
[04:39] <burepe> request install?
[04:40] <en1gma> to make linux replace windows for eveerything
[04:40] <DaSkreech> Yup then Apply
[04:40] <burepe> i bet it will be google
[04:40] <en1gma> i remember when openGL ruled the world
[04:40] <en1gma> dirextx was a POS
[04:40] <en1gma> when did that all change
[04:40] <DaSkreech> burepe: You have Adept?
[04:40] <damian_> opengl still rules the pro worls
[04:41] <burepe> yeah
[04:41] <damian_> directx is used for making games
[04:41] <damian_> people who work with cgi use opengl
[04:41] <DaSkreech> burepe: Open?
[04:41] <burepe> I don't follow what "request" is
[04:41] <damian_> it's a lot more powerful than directx
[04:41] <larson9999> en1gma: when did opengl die?  i must have missed that one
[04:41] <burepe> What do you mean "open"?
[04:41] <en1gma> ok guys i gonna get on the road if someone can come up with an idea about me not having to dlaod a new dvd iso and i can replace my kernel with the newer -25 64bit kernel i would appreciate it
[04:41] <en1gma> i would even like to use the newer 2.6.17 kernel
[04:41] <en1gma> let me know tonight
[04:42] <en1gma> look at the games that are out
[04:42] <en1gma> 90% are directx
[04:42] <en1gma> with idsoftware where would games on linux be
[04:42] <en1gma> god i love carmack
[04:42] <en1gma> without*
[04:43] <en1gma> got to go
[04:43] <en1gma> cyas later and dont forget the guy who dont want to dload a dvdiso just to change my kernel on this live dvd
[04:43] <en1gma> bblater tonight
[04:43] <en1gma> cyas
[04:44] <supernix> Uptime: 6 days, 12 hours and 24 minutes
[04:44] <maxi_> hey
[04:44] <maxi_> what packages do I need for NTFS support?
[04:44] <supernix> Does anyone happen to use one of those air cards to access the net ?
[04:44] <maxi_> to write on NTFS drives?
[04:45] <Philip5> maxi_: that's not recommendable
[04:45] <maxi_> why not?
[04:45] <Philip5> it's not considered totally safe
[04:46] <maxi_> what is meant by totally?
[04:46] <burepe> DaSkreech	 what do you mean "open"?
[04:46] <maxi_> I just need it on my Personal PC
[04:46] <Philip5> that's why it's set to be read only
[04:46] <maxi_> hmm ok
[04:46] <maxi_> thx
[04:47] <Philip5> maxi_: yes but if you are unlucky and write to a ntfs partition you could make all the partition unreadable
[04:47] <h3sp4wn> supernix: air cards ? I use an atheros wireless card
[04:48] <DaSkreech> burepe: Is Adept Open? So that you are looking at it?
[04:48] <burepe> oh yeah
[04:49] <supernix> h3sp4wn: all I know is they call it an air card you use it for wireless internet connection\
[04:50] <supernix> From what I was told you connect it to your USB connection
[04:50] <DaSkreech> burepe: You know how to use Adept?
[04:50] <burepe> yaeh
[04:50] <martinjh99> Are there packages for 3.5.4 yet??  If so where..? ;)
[04:50] <DaSkreech> Ok install Drupal
[04:50] <burepe> I just didn't understand some of your word useage
[04:50] <burepe> sorry
[04:50] <burepe> my bad
[04:51] <burepe> I think I have to set the mysql password first
[04:51] <h3sp4wn> supernix: You are better off with a pci or cardbus card (you will have less problems)
[04:51] <burepe> I did the comand the faq I am using told me to but it seems to have not worked
[04:51] <supernix> hmmm I will have to check into that then
[04:51] <supernix> I figured it would be to good to be true
[04:52] <DaSkreech> burepe: Which faq? That might help
[04:52] <h3sp4wn> supernix: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility
[04:52] <burepe> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:53] <simon__> hi; it appears I have some issues with font hinting in kde; it's not enabled in system settings, is it possible it's set up via dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or so?
[04:53] <supernix> they said it could get speeds up to 384kbs I wonder if that is a good enough connection for connection sharing
[04:53] <larson9999> ntfs read-write is supposed to be good now.  here is a link.  http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=2697
[04:55] <larson9999> still beta but i have a friend who says he hasn't had any issues.
[04:55] <simon__> and also, how can I get more (monospaced) fonts in konsole? I see more in konversation than I do in konsole
[04:55] <DaSkreech> burepe: You could just apt-get install drupal
[04:56] <burepe> yeah
[04:56] <MilhousePunkRock> I am having trouble with my USB thumb drive
[04:56] <burepe> Hey this command where it says 'yourpassword' do I leave the brackets? SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('yourpassword');
[04:56] <DaSkreech> Yup
[04:57] <MilhousePunkRock> I think it did not get mounted properly and the folder I copied onto it is only garbage
[04:57] <MilhousePunkRock> And I can't delete it anymore
[04:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy room !
[04:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Howdy BluesKaj
[04:57] <BluesKaj> hi MilhousePunkRock
[04:57] <h3sp4wn> supernix: With qos on openwrt that connection would be fine for connection sharing (get a linksys wrt54gl router is the easiest way)
[04:58] <nick_> hello i have a problem with setting up a networkprinter with a (windows) computer
[04:58] <BluesKaj> finally cooled off here in Northern Ontario
[04:58] <voicu> Hi, did anyone manage to setup amarok to use MySQL? I can't make it work
[04:58] <nick_> can someone help me ?
[04:58] <supernix> kewl then I can share the connection with my girl and kill any thoughts of 56k for good
[04:58] <DaSkreech> burepe: anything in the little boxes should be typed exactly as seen but with the obvious stuff replaced
[04:59] <voicu> Each time it builds the collection nothing appears. So I restarted and builds the collection again with no result
[04:59] <burepe> not exactly
[04:59] <voicu> anyone?
[05:00] <burepe> when you access mysql it says "mysql>" but the commands also have "mysql>" in them so it is redundant and causing errors
[05:00] <DaSkreech> voicu: Umm Not sure have you asked in #amarok?
[05:00] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir and abattoir_: Hey!
[05:00] <supernix> ty for all your advise and help h3sp4wn
[05:00] <voicu> burepe: I think the guys amarok knew about stuff like that
[05:00] <DaSkreech> burepe: You don't include the prompt :)
[05:00] <nick_> each time a want to do a "testprint"  the system says that it works but it doesn't begin!!
[05:01] <voicu> ok... trying #amarok
[05:01] <burepe> do I repalce the root and localhost info too?
[05:01] <voicu> tnx
[05:01] <burepe> voicu it is a differnt thing we are talking about
[05:01] <voicu> what?
[05:01] <burepe> we are not talking about amarok
[05:02] <voicu> lol, ok :)
[05:02] <nick_> can someone help me?
[05:02] <illness> hi all
[05:02] <burepe> nick_ ask your question
[05:02] <DaSkreech> burepe: He did
[05:03] <DaSkreech> nick_: What Printer?
[05:03] <illness> i installed kdetv... and everything works fine, but i get no sound... any ideas?
[05:03] <nick_> canon s400
[05:03] <nick_> it's installed on a computer with windows XP home edition
[05:03] <burepe> illness plug the headphones in to the tvtuner card audio port
[05:03] <burepe> it is seperate
[05:04] <BluesKaj> nick_, I have the same prob , but i havent been able to solve it either
[05:04] <burepe> you gotta change it when you watch tv or get a splitter to go back into the speakers
[05:05] <illness> there is no headphone jack
[05:05] <nick_> it's strange isn't it!! the say it works but it doesn't start printing
[05:05] <burepe> DaSkreech Do I have to replace 'root' and 'localhost' too?
[05:05] <BluesKaj> my printer sets up to print the test page, but then it freezes and does nothing
[05:05] <illness> on the tv card
[05:05] <larson9999> i'm lucky enough to have a print sever.  worth the $10 or so if you can find one used
[05:05] <DaSkreech> burepe: No That's the prompt :) You ignore those :)
[05:06] <nick_> but i am in network with that pc i just can't print
[05:06] <DaSkreech> !print
[05:06] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:06] <burepe> DaSkreech What about this? I replace 'yourusername' and 'yourpassword' but not 'localhost'? mysql> GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO 'yourusername'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'yourpassword' WITH GRANT OPTION;
[05:06] <DaSkreech> nick_: Have you read those?
[05:06] <BluesKaj> I 've been asked all the ocvious questions like , "do you have print sharing turned on in the XP pc etc"
[05:06] <nick_> no
[05:07] <DaSkreech> Ahh Ok there :)
[05:07] <DaSkreech> nick_: Try those they might help
[05:07] <larson9999> you have to mess with the groups for cups to work
[05:07] <DaSkreech> burepe: Sorry Misunderstanding. Yes names and passwords you replace with what you need. They can be the same but you should know if they aren't
[05:08] <edison> morning averyone
[05:08] <nick_> i'm using kubuntu  from yesterday
[05:08] <BluesKaj> yes nick_, same here I'm on a windows network too , the printer is USB conned to the other pc (windows)
[05:08] <DaSkreech>  burepeIf you don't know then use them as shown
[05:08] <DaSkreech> edison: Moring
[05:08] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Did you read !print? :)
[05:08] <burepe> DaSkreech So just not 'localhost'?
[05:08] <edison> i have a problem with my nvidia card, i cant change my resolution from 800*600 to 1024*768
[05:08] <burepe> pl
[05:08] <burepe> ok
[05:09] <edison> cause only shows 800*600 option
[05:09] <BluesKaj> yes DaSkreech, many times
[05:09] <DaSkreech> burepe: Localhost means this computer. If you are using this computer as the server then localhost is fine
[05:09] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Ok Just checking. Canon?
[05:09] <DaSkreech> !resolution
[05:09] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:09] <DaSkreech> !resolution > edison
[05:09] <burepe> ok
[05:09] <BluesKaj> HP
[05:09] <burepe> Thanks
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Sure
[05:10] <h3sp4wn> Why was the modeline part of it removed from that fixvideoresolutionhowto (It was well written and easy to understand) now its not there :/
[05:11] <nick_> do somebody know how i get MSN messenger on my kubuntu pc
[05:11] <Ignite_> nick_, kopete
[05:11] <Ignite_> K Menu -> ~Internet -> Kopete
[05:11] <nick_> but that sucks and amsn to
[05:11] <Ignite_> kopete is awesome
[05:11] <Ignite_> imho
[05:12] <Ignite_> you could install GAIM
[05:12] <burepe> DaSkreech I cant get this command to work even thought I replaces 'yourusername' and 'yourpassword'. mysql> GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO 'yourusername'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'yourpassword' WITH GRANT OPTION;
[05:12] <burepe>  Is 'yourusername' my username for this linux install?
[05:12] <DaSkreech> nick_: What are you looking for?
[05:13] <DaSkreech> burepe: No it's your mysql usernam I would assume
[05:13] <burepe> i don't have one yet I am making one
[05:13] <burepe> I want it to be the same as the name on the comp but I am getting errors
[05:13] <DaSkreech> what errors?
[05:14] <gianluca> bye all
[05:14] <burepe> Is it blocking because it is the same as the admin name?
[05:14] <burepe> Found it
[05:14] <nick_> if there is a way to get the MSN messenger on mu kubuntu pc
[05:14] <soulrider_> guys, my adept kinda crashed and i still ahve a running process so i cant open it again, how can i terminate that process?
[05:14] <burepe> that damn reapeating 'mysql>"
[05:14] <soulrider_> nick_: why not use kopete or GAIM?
[05:14] <MilhousePunkRock> nick_: If you don't like either Kopete and Gaim, there is not much left
[05:15] <nick_> because i don't like it
[05:15] <soulrider_> too bad
[05:15] <soulrider_> seriously, the msn client sucks :p
[05:15] <DaSkreech> soulrider_: killall adept*
[05:16] <soulrider_> thanks
[05:16] <burepe> in the control panel there is a systems monitor. I forget the path and the name but if that helps...
[05:16] <burepe> ]
[05:16] <DaSkreech> soulrider_: Though you could try sudo dpkg --configure -a first
[05:16] <burepe> or that
[05:16] <nick_> yes it sucks and it doesn't work well but it has a lot of functions an has a good design
[05:16] <DaSkreech> nick_: try Wine but I doubt it will work
[05:16] <soulrider_>  kopete has all of them too
[05:16] <soulrider_> except for the handwrite thing i think
[05:16] <MilhousePunkRock> nick_: I think you can run the original MSN under Wine.. As you probably don't like Konqueror either, try running MSIE there as well
[05:17] <DaSkreech>  Microsoft stuff normally bypasses the API to go deep into the Windows core so they are nearly impossible to replicate
[05:17] <soulrider_> lol MilhousePunkRock
[05:17] <nick_> with wini does it have to work but you have to install en change many things
[05:18] <MilhousePunkRock> DaSkreech: I passed the Windows Genuine Verification yesterday using Wine, so M$ isnt half as smart as it pretends to be...
[05:18] <soulrider_> lol
[05:18] <DaSkreech> MilhousePunkRock: You mean that WINE is very dedicated :)
[05:18] <soulrider_> nick_: if you cant bare not having the original msn client i seriously cant udnerstand why youre using kubuntu
[05:18] <larson9999> MilhousePunkRock: to my knowledge IE doesn't work with recent release of wine.  i've had to use ie4linux for a while now.  ff does though and has better performance for most things
[05:18] <MilhousePunkRock> nick_: I am sorry to that, but maybe you better install Windows and get happy with that...
[05:19] <DaSkreech> soulrider_: That's not fair. He can like the application
[05:19] <abattoir_> MilhousePunkRock: hi :)
[05:19] <larson9999> but yeah, why would you want msn?  i don't even use that in windows
[05:19] <soulrider_> i didnt say he didnt have to like it
[05:19] <MilhousePunkRock> larson9999: That wasn't really serious anyway...
[05:19] <soulrider_> but he shoudl be able to live with it
[05:19] <DaSkreech> nick_: Try Wine :-) It can't kill you
[05:19] <soulrider_> mostly ebcause its nott hat good :P
[05:19] <edison> hi still have the resolution problem
[05:19] <DaSkreech> I don't think it's that good either but then I love ICQ and most people think I'm crazy
[05:19] <edison> i cant set it to 1024*768
[05:20] <nick_> i had always problems with the windows activation so i changed to kubuntu
[05:20] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey abattoir! Nice you woke up... :-P
[05:20] <DaSkreech> edison: Did you try the dpkg-reconfigure ?
[05:20] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: nah, wasnt sleeping, was away :)
[05:20] <soulrider_> i gto some KDE update shere, should i upgrade?
[05:20] <MilhousePunkRock> nick_: That's because you need to BUY windows...
[05:20] <edison> yes, but didnt change anything
[05:20] <edison> it still look the same 800*600
[05:21] <soulrider_> i never bought windows and never had a problem :P
[05:21] <MilhousePunkRock> nick_: You could try Miranda, maybe you like that better than Kopete and Gaim...
[05:21] <soulrider_> i doubt it
[05:21] <soulrider_> miranda is less user friendly
[05:21] <soulrider_> or at least it was
[05:22] <edison> i fallow the steps show in the page u gave me but still look 800*600
[05:22] <soulrider_> i used it for several months while in win
[05:22] <MilhousePunkRock> What about amsn?
[05:22] <h3sp4wn> centericq is pretty good
[05:23] <MilhousePunkRock> Having seen both Trillian and Miranda on Win, I have to say, Gaim is decent and Kopete is awesome...
[05:23] <edison> someone can help to change my screen resolution please
[05:23] <edison> it only shows me 800*600
[05:24] <edison> i have a nvida fx5200
[05:24] <nick_> i'm just using gaim for the first time an if i log in it fals out after a few sec
[05:25] <MilhousePunkRock> nick_: Than there is something wrong on your end
[05:25] <edison> someone can help to change my screen resolution please
[05:25] <Firetech> how long is 3.5.4 expected to be broken? I accidentally upgraded before reading the announcement...
[05:25] <larson9999> edison: you probably don't have your card installed properly
[05:26] <larson9999> !nvidia
[05:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:26] <edison> i just intall the driver for it
[05:26] <damian_> is there a guide explaining how to get my wireless card to work
[05:26] <edison> and still giving me problems
[05:26] <larson9999> edison: or at least that was the case for my 5500.
[05:26] <mauri> hi
[05:27] <mauri> somebody knows ho to configure conky?
[05:27] <soulrider_> conky ?
[05:27] <mauri> yep
[05:27] <soulrider_> !conky
[05:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about conky - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:27] <mauri> ok thanks
[05:27] <mauri> :D
[05:27] <edison> mmmmmm
[05:28] <edison> well let me check the page and back in a sec, thanks
[05:28] <yamal> mauri: check the examples at conky.sf.net
[05:28] <nick_> witch virusscan can i use for kubuntu
[05:28] <soulrider_> no need to
[05:28] <mauri> yamal, i took a look
[05:28] <mauri> but i cant find conkyrc
[05:28] <mauri> : \
[05:29] <MilhousePunkRock> nick_: There are AV programs for Linux, but hardly any viruses...
[05:29] <damian_> is there a guide for getting wireless to work
[05:30] <jasj> someone know how upload a program to the community
[05:30] <MilhousePunkRock> !wifi
[05:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:31] <yamal> mauri: it's just a text file you put in  your home dir as .conkyrc
[05:31] <MilhousePunkRock> damian_: ^^
[05:31] <doowtniop> I seem to have lost sound after updating to dapper and I'm not really sure how to debug it?
[05:31] <mauri> eheh, right then
[05:31] <mauri> thanks a lot
[05:33] <sebsebseb> I have a Ubuntu and Kubuntu installed with their partions.  and XP and a lap top recovery partion.  this is just one 80GB hard disk.
[05:33] <sebsebseb> however Ubuntu/Kbuntu has ended up up with 15GB and I carn't reize that ext3 partion with QTParted or Gparted.  I read about two other progrmas for resizing them,  but I am not sure. so haven't even tryed downloading or installing
[05:33] <sebsebseb> or it was just one program
[05:34] <MilhousePunkRock> sebsebseb: resize2fs might be what you are looking for, if you are not afraid of the CLI
[05:34] <pointwood> brb,
[05:35] <burepe> I am confused by this faq. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP It says near the beginning "If you did not use the LAMP installer option from the server cd but want to install those same packages without having to reinstall your operating system, use  any method to install the following packages
[05:35] <burepe> apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[05:35] <burepe> All of those packages are in the Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) main repository. Once LAMP is installed, you need to set a mysql root password and then, depending on your web application, create a database, user and password. That's it! " so I did that and then I went down to the bottom and set the mysql password. Do I need to do the "Phpmyadmin or mysql-admin" section?
[05:38] <sebsebseb> !resize2fs
[05:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about resize2fs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:40] <soulrider> i got a question, well, 2
[05:40] <soulrider> i heard that FAT partitions have a filesize limit, is that true?
[05:40] <soulrider> and, can i write with no problems to FAT partitions?
[05:42] <yamal> soulrider: every filesystem has its limits, so yes; and yes you can for #2
[05:42] <soulrider> and whats the limit?
[05:42] <h3sp4wn> 2gb afaik
[05:43] <h3sp4wn> (at least it was)
[05:43] <soulrider> ouch
[05:43] <yamal> also depends what version of fat... but it isn't too high anyway
[05:43] <soulrider> adn what filesystem can i use that is compatible with both win and linux
[05:43] <burepe> How can I find out what my "user"s "group" is?
[05:44] <osh_> soulrider: fat32
[05:44] <soulrider> and theres a sizelimit too ?
[05:44] <mauri> yamal: i created .conkyrc
[05:44] <MilhousePunkRock> !resize2fs
[05:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about resize2fs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:44] <MilhousePunkRock> !info resize2fs
[05:44] <mauri> i tried to edit it but it doesnt affect anything
[05:44] <ubotu> Package resize2fs does not exist in dapper
[05:45] <MilhousePunkRock> !resize
[05:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about resize - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:45] <sebsebseb> !ext3
[05:45] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[05:45] <yamal> mauri: but conky does work ?
[05:45] <TheGateKeeper> soulrider: there are howto's on the ubuntu forums about read/writting to a NTFS partition, things have recently improved here
[05:45] <osh_> soulrider: btw, i think xfs has both linux and windows hooks. that should be enough for you. 9tb filesize max and 18tb volumesize max. or something similar.
[05:45] <zipper_> I've got ubuntu 6.06 installed, but i wanted to try out kde so i installed the 'kubuntu-desktop' package. All went well, KDE starts and everything, but for some reason my keyboard language/layout isnt the same as in gnome, even if i use 'language selection' to select my main language, danish. Anyone know what could be wrong?
[05:45] <mauri> sure, it starts
[05:46] <h3sp4wn> xfs is the filesystem with the most reported issues (even more than reiserfs4)
[05:46] <yamal> mauri: you know that only the stuff after the line thatsays "TEXT" determines what is shown?
[05:46] <soulrider> TheGateKeeper: i got ntfs suppor on linux but it said writing was experimental, and it that didnt sound too nice
[05:47] <mauri> sure
[05:47] <mauri> the rest is the appearence
[05:47] <yamal> 'killall -USR1 conky' reloads the config
[05:48] <TheGateKeeper> soulrider: know what you are saying but Xandos is one distro that claims to read / write to ntfs 'out of the box'
[05:48] <larson9999> soulrider: have you tried this?  i'm curious how it works.  i do know the folks at gparted say the driver they use is rock solid.  i don't konw if that's true but i've resized many ntfs partitions with it and haven't had a problemntfs read-write is supposed to be good now.  here is a link.  http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=23836054&forum_id=2697
[05:49] <soulrider> k, ill try to find out more, thanks!
[05:49] <mauri> yamal: wow
[05:50] <dhq> how to uninstall apache2 and apache
[05:50] <mauri> thanks
[05:50] <dhq> i waana give a fresh start
[05:50] <yamal> I should demand payment ;)
[05:50] <osh_> dhq: sudo aptitude purge apache apache-common apace2 apache2-common
[05:50] <mauri> i am supposed to restart the application to experiment the changement in conkyrc?
[05:50] <osh_> dhq: more or less.
[05:50] <yamal> mauri: yes. it only loads the config when it's started or told to
[05:51] <mauri> allright
[05:51] <mauri> thanks
[05:51] <mauri> :D
[05:51] <yamal> yw
[05:51] <MilhousePunkRock> sebsebseb: That's how to use it: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/resize2fs.8.html
[05:52] <dhq> osh_: it will kill the apache2 sercer too rite
[05:52] <dhq> server
[05:52] <agresor> i`m trying to install MPlayer
[05:52] <agresor> i got this err messege
[05:52] <agresor> Gui/libgui.a(interface.o): In function `guiInit':interface.c:(.text+0xca2): undefined reference to `vo_setwindow'
[05:52] <agresor> ??? anyone ?
[05:53] <dhq> osh_: the server is still running
[05:53] <MilhousePunkRock> sebsebseb: If I remember correctly it's a command, not a program... type "sudo resize2fs" in the shell
[05:54] <osh_> dhq: Is it still running after you've done a "purge"?
[05:54] <dhq> yeah
[05:54] <MilhousePunkRock> sebsebseb: It will tell you the version number and the suffixes
[05:54] <sebsebseb> it's an ext3 what I got though and not ext2
[05:54] <osh_> dhq: aptitude purge/remove should kill it. You don't have any files left on your system if done right. Do a dpkg -l | grep apache
[05:55] <MilhousePunkRock> sebsebseb: That doesn't matter
[05:55] <osh_> dhq: Does that show anything?
[05:55] <dhq> yes alot
[05:55] <osh_> dhq: about apache?
[05:55] <sebsebseb> right seems I  have it
[05:56] <sebsebseb> so it's a command line program?
[05:56] <dhq> osh_: yes apache files
[05:56] <DaSkreech> agresor: How are you installing it?
[05:56] <osh_> dhq: which ones?
[05:56] <MilhousePunkRock> sebsebseb: Yes
[05:56] <soulrider> to tell yout he truth i dont really want to use anything like that unless i know it works perfectly
[05:56] <soulrider> dont wanna risk loosing any of my data
[05:57] <DaSkreech> soulrider: Bah It's just data :)
[05:57] <soulrider> lol
[05:57] <osh_> soulrider: and you've got a backup anyway, right?
[05:57] <DaSkreech> Plus running around outside doing some primal screaming after the last 12 years of your life has been lost is good for you
[05:58] <DaSkreech> agresor: Ping
[05:58] <bytefoo> hi i guys, i installed kubuntu and am trying to use my usb headphones, but i don't know how to switch to them or they aren't being detected. any ideas? they work fantastic under gnome
[05:58] <agresor> DaSkreech, no
[05:58] <agresor> :(
[05:58] <dhq> osh_:
[05:59] <agresor> mplayer not working at me
[05:59] <dhq> osh_:
[05:59] <dhq> rc  apache-ssl                             1.3.34-2                                versatile, high-performance HTTP server with
[05:59] <dhq> ii  apache2                                2.0.55-4ubuntu2                         next generation, scalable, extendable web se
[05:59] <DaSkreech> agresor: How are you installing it?
[05:59] <agresor> i`m installing it with source code
[05:59] <dhq> ii  apache2-common                         2.0.55-4ubuntu2                         next generation, scalable, extendable web se
[05:59] <dhq> rc  apache2-doc                            2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1                       documentation for apache2
[05:59] <dhq> ii  apache2-mpm-worker                     2.0.55-4ubuntu2                         high speed threaded model for Apache2
[05:59] <dhq> ii  apache2-utils                          2.0.55-4ubuntu2                         utility programs for webservers
[05:59] <DaSkreech> agresor: Why?
[05:59] <osh_> !tell dhq about pastebin
[05:59] <agresor> Is there other way ?
[05:59] <DaSkreech> !info mplayer
[05:59] <MilhousePunkRock> dhq: You should know better...
[05:59] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In repository multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[05:59] <DaSkreech> agresor: Do you have adept?
[05:59] <agresor> apt ?
[05:59] <dhq> osh_: wat is pastepin
[06:00] <dhq> pastebin
[06:00] <DaSkreech> agresor: Or that :-) You know how to edit your sources?
[06:00] <MilhousePunkRock> !paste
[06:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:00] <agresor> DaSkreech,  what souce to put in sources.bin ?
[06:00] <DaSkreech> !multiverse > agresor
[06:00] <DaSkreech> Read that
[06:00] <agresor> okey
[06:00] <agresor> :)
[06:00] <agresor> w8
[06:00] <MilhousePunkRock> !easysource > agresor
[06:00] <epsilom> news:: kde 3.5.4 is out www.kde.org
[06:00] <osh_> dhq: you havent removed apache. did you run the sudo adept purge-lnie I sent you?
[06:01] <MilhousePunkRock> epsilom: Read the channel topic, it's broken in dapper
[06:01] <dhq> yes
[06:01] <bytefoo> so...any ideas why my usb headphones aren't detected in kde? or how to switch to them? :|
[06:02] <osh_> dhq: what did it say? you obviously have apache2 on your system still.
[06:02] <bytefoo> well of course they work oob in windows :/
[06:03] <agresor> MilhousePunkRock,  what suppose to put in "key"       gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY
[06:03] <agresor> ???
[06:03] <bytefoo> i mean theres got to be some kind of hardware device manager thing right? :/
[06:05] <soulrider> does anyone know a good aplce to read about how to make GUI in java?  Done
[06:07] <agresor> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:07] <agresor> E: Couldn't find package MPlayer
[06:08] <dhq> osh_: now the apache server is removed
[06:08] <dhq> osh_: i want to start a fresh start for apache i need to use it as a web server and use my local directory
[06:09] <BluesKaj> Success!, managed to get the windows network printer up and printing from the Kubuntu machine thx to this page : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter?highlight=%28WindowsXPPrinter%29
[06:10] <BluesKaj> thx for the tips DaSkreech! :)
[06:10] <DaSkreech> agresor: Did you do a apt-get update
[06:10] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: No problem remember to share!
[06:11] <soulrider> i need to set up mine too
[06:11] <soulrider> i guess the link will be useful
[06:11] <BluesKaj> that;s why i posted the URL https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter?highlight=%28WindowsXPPrinter%29
[06:11] <dhq> osh_: so plz help
[06:12] <BluesKaj> soulrider, worked for me after I chose the right printer name ...it's the same as the one used on the windows machine
[06:12] <agresor> DaSkreech,  is the package name is MPlayer ?
[06:12] <agresor> did u install it ?
[06:12] <DaSkreech> agresor: yes just use all common
[06:12] <DaSkreech> mplayer
[06:13] <agresor> it will download codecs and fonts ?
[06:13] <agresor> or i have manual ?
[06:13] <DaSkreech> agresor: Ermm I think so :) What codecs do you need?
[06:13] <agresor> for .avi  mpeg mp3
[06:13] <agresor> and all ?:
[06:13] <agresor> :D
[06:14] <DaSkreech> Kaffiene does all of those
[06:14] <agresor> no it doesnt.. :( i dont have plugins
[06:14] <agresor> how to update plugins on Kaffiene ?
[06:15] <DaSkreech> agresor: try libxine-extracodecs
[06:15] <DaSkreech> !w32
[06:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about w32 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:15] <DaSkreech> !codecs
[06:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:16] <DaSkreech> And those URLs should take care of everythign else
[06:16] <Ace2007> hi all
[06:19] <DaSkreech> agresor: keep me up to date
[06:19] <johnvale> hi
[06:19] <h3sp4wn> the w32codecs from debian multimedia are newer than the ones from the penguin liberation front
[06:19] <MilhousePunkRock> !multimedia > agresor
[06:20] <soulrider> !wine
[06:20] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:20] <MilhousePunkRock> lol I was scrolled up, DaSkreech gave agresor the info already...
[06:21] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Wait.. Debian is newer than someone?
[06:21] <MilhousePunkRock> lol
[06:21] <agresor> hmm :(
[06:21] <DaSkreech> MilhousePunkRock: Better too much than too little
[06:21] <agresor> i`m without success
[06:21] <DaSkreech> agresor: Where did it fail?
[06:21] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: debian sid is newer than almost all distro's
[06:22] <DaSkreech> Oh Sid :)
[06:22] <DaSkreech> You might as well just plug a SVH script into your viens
[06:22] <DaSkreech> Veins
[06:22] <agresor> DaSkreech,  im trying to apt-get install mplayer-386
[06:22] <agresor> then that depend of other package
[06:22] <agresor> then that other package depends of other package
[06:22] <DaSkreech> agresor: are you in Kubuntu?
[06:23] <agresor> and that.... :((((
[06:23] <agresor> yes
[06:23] <DaSkreech> try kmplayer
[06:23] <agresor> i have it
[06:23] <agresor> but
[06:23] <agresor> wont play
[06:23] <agresor> shits
[06:23] <agresor> ;(
[06:25] <agresor> cant play avi
[06:25] <fannagoganna> kmplayer is a front-end to mplayer
[06:25] <agresor> cant play mp3
[06:25] <agresor> cant play anything..
[06:25] <BluesKaj> MPlayer is available seperately but I think you have to use unsupported sources to get it
[06:26] <fannagoganna> are you using mplayer for video/audio editing or to watch and play movies only?
[06:26] <agresor> just to watch
[06:26] <agresor> and play
[06:26] <agresor> lol :S
[06:26] <agresor> when i trying to compile it
[06:26] <agresor> --enable-gui
[06:26] <agresor> wont configure it...
[06:26] <agresor> errror
[06:26] <agresor> in ubuntu works..
[06:26] <agresor> kubuntu wont.
[06:26] <DaSkreech> agresor: You can't apt-get install mplayer?
[06:26] <agresor> nope
[06:27] <agresor> ;\
[06:27] <DaSkreech> agresor: Have you tried in adept?
[06:29] <agresor> when i put it
[06:29] <agresor> there is
[06:29] <agresor> BREAK (install)
[06:29] <agresor> ....
[06:29] <agresor> what is wrong ?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> really?
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Good question what else have you tried to install?
[06:30] <h3sp4wn> !info kmplayer
[06:30] <ubotu> kmplayer: media player for KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>+0.9.2-rc1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 161 kB, installed size 524 kB
[06:30] <h3sp4wn> multiverse is not enabled (I think)
[06:30] <h3sp4wn> !info mplayer
[06:30] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In repository multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[06:31] <agresor> DaSkreech,  i tryed with source code..
[06:31] <agresor> error with gui
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Well he's installing it and it's breaking
[06:32] <soulrider> guys, if i wanna play a game using wine, will i ahve to sinatll directX? :-/
[06:32] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, automatix might have mplayer . I changed my sources list so I no longer have automatix
[06:33] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Automatix is evil
[06:33] <BluesKaj> hehe
[06:33] <h3sp4wn> Its ffmpeg you need that is not crippled (for it to work properly)
[06:33] <DaSkreech> agresor: Ok what have you done so far? :-)
[06:33] <agresor> nothing
[06:33] <agresor> :)
[06:34] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: ffmpeg again?  you're the expert now, right?
[06:34] <BluesKaj> that seems to be a majority view around here , DaSkreech :)
[06:34] <agresor> whey i type this
[06:34] <agresor> root@agresor:/etc/apt# apt-get install libreadline4
[06:34] <agresor> that ask me to remo 500 mb
[06:34] <agresor> all softwares
[06:34] <agresor> looooooooooooooool
[06:34] <agresor> remove*
[06:34] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: maybe you should make a package that isn't cripled.
[06:34] <agresor> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[06:34] <agresor>   libreadline4
[06:34] <agresor> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 259 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[06:34] <agresor> Need to get 139kB of archives.
[06:34] <agresor> After unpacking 468MB disk space will be freed.
[06:34] <agresor> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ?
[06:34] <agresor> root@agresor:/etc/apt#
[06:34] <DaSkreech> !paste
[06:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:35] <Hawkwind> agresor: Use pastebin next time please
[06:35] <agresor> ook
[06:35] <agresor> sorry
[06:35] <DaSkreech> I think you broke something
[06:35] <DaSkreech> Can You pastebin your sources?
[06:35] <agresor> for example ? :P
[06:35] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: I have never managed to get the cvs version to build in a way I am happy with (i.e without me disabling things that I don't really want to disable)
[06:35] <agresor> yes
[06:35] <agresor> w8
[06:35] <Hawkwind> larson9999: You ever use E17 at all ?
[06:36] <larson9999> Hawkwind: no, just e16
[06:36] <agresor> just tell me..
[06:36] <agresor> do i have to add those keys from sources.list ?
[06:36] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Ah.  I put up an E17 deb repo on SoS last night.  Hoping to get some users to try it out
[06:37] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i will now.  i've been waiting for you to tell me sos was all *buntued up.
[06:38] <Hawkwind> larson9999: There is a Deb Packages page on the site and it contains a bit of info
[06:38] <dhq> which is the best webserver
[06:39] <Hawkwind> No such thing as 'best'
[06:39] <TheDanMan> agreed
[06:39] <Hawkwind> That's a matter of opinion
[06:39] <Hawkwind> If there was a 'best' there would be only one
[06:39] <TheDanMan> I use apache :shrug: does everything I need
[06:39] <dhq> Hawkwind: in your view
[06:39] <Hawkwind> dhq: No, that's fact.
[06:39] <DaSkreech> agresor: In general yes but you don't have to add one for multiverse
[06:39] <Hawkwind> If there was a 'best' then there would only be one available
[06:39] <larson9999> the best is the one you like best?  that seems to hold true in linux and love
[06:39] <dhq> TheDanMan: i have so many problems with apache
[06:40] <larson9999> Hawkwind: or others trying to become the 'Best'
[06:40] <TheDanMan> dhq: I don't ;-)
[06:40] <Hawkwind> Apache just......works
[06:40] <dhq> Hawkwind: : i have so many problems with apache
[06:40] <Hawkwind> dhq: I don't
[06:40] <TheDanMan> dhq: I use apache because it works for me, and I can use it with minimal modification
[06:40] <larson9999> nothing that supposedly 'just works' does for me.
[06:40] <Hawkwind> dhq: You're having problems because you don't understand I'm betting
[06:41] <dhq> Hawkwind: how to use it
[06:41] <Hawkwind> dhq: apache.org and also tldp.org and read all about it
[06:41] <Hawkwind> dhq: Also type: /join #Apache
[06:41] <h3sp4wn> dhq: Use the kernel http server (don't know whether it is still there actually)
[06:42] <larson9999> *buntu included.  i didn't have tons of set up with it but claiming it 'just works' is a little off.
[06:42] <dhq> Hawkwind: no now i want to install apache
[06:42] <dhq> tell me the command
[06:42] <Hawkwind> larson9999: I've never done more than install apache and start the service
[06:42] <Hawkwind> dhq: sudo apt-get install <package>   Replace <package> with whatever you want
[06:43] <dhq> Hawkwind: i will just have to type apache rite
[06:43] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i haven't used apache but am pretty close to setting up my own server.  guess i'll see then.  no setup other than apt-get?
[06:44] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Not for me.  Been that way for years
[06:44] <arso> umm guys
[06:44] <arso> silly question
[06:44] <larson9999> Hawkwind: just emodules0-all to install e17?
[06:44] <arso> but am burning a data dvd on k3b
[06:44] <arso> will it be accessible on windows ?
[06:45] <larson9999> arso: should be
[06:45] <arso> ic
[06:45] <arso> thnx
[06:45] <arso> so they all follow a standard on that huh
[06:45] <Hawkwind> larson9999: No, read the SoS page.  It tells you the command
[06:45] <agresor> anyone other player can play movie and subtitles ?????????
[06:46] <arso> maybe?????????????????????????
[06:46] <ubuntu> hello
[06:46] <arso> hello
[06:46] <ubuntu> hoz are youM
[06:46] <arso> meZ are fineM
[06:46] <arso> yoz?
[06:46] <ubuntu> where are you from
[06:46] <DaSkreech> arso: ISO9660
[06:47] <arso> DaSkreech:  windows can read that?
[06:47] <arso> ubuntu dubai,u?
[06:47] <DaSkreech> Yeah :) It's a standard
[06:47] <arso> yay
[06:47] <arso> thank god
[06:47] <ubuntu> france
[06:47] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i'm dense.  i guess i needed, "Then run this command to install it."
[06:47] <arso> cool
[06:47] <arso> wb
[06:47] <arso> i want to uncap my router :(:(
[06:47] <DaSkreech> agresor: I think all of them can
[06:47] <ubuntu> i m testing this chat room
[06:48] <arso> testing/
[06:48] <arso> for wat?
[06:48] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: dont go to #kubuntu-offtopic for testing/general chat
[06:48] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: this is a support channel
[06:48] <ubuntu> because i m using a version of linux in my computer and its not easy
[06:49] <arso> lol
[06:49] <arso> which distribution?
[06:49] <arso> gnomefreak:  dont u mean "GO TO"
[06:49] <ubuntu> kubuntu
[06:49] <arso> it IS easy :)
[06:49] <ubuntu> its a live version cd
[06:49] <gnomefreak> yeah that too :(
[06:49] <arso> i started a month ago, and had no difficulty
[06:50] <ubuntu> i must learn to use the us keyboard
[06:50] <arso> oh
[06:50] <arso> wat keyboard are u using?
[06:50] <arso> uk?
[06:50] <agresor> nahh
[06:50] <agresor> nah
[06:50] <agresor> nah
[06:50] <ubuntu> the french keyboard
[06:50] <agresor> i will install ubuntu..
[06:50] <agresor> :(
[06:50] <arso> u have a special keyboard in france?
[06:51] <ubuntu> its ;aybe the same in england
[06:51] <arso> ur @ is next to the ENTER ?
[06:51] <Admiral_Chicago> arso, ...
[06:51] <larson9999> Hawkwind: hmmm, i don't see that on the sos site.  maybe i need to looks harder
[06:51] <arso> Admiral_Chicago:  yes :) ?
[06:51] <ubuntu> whatM
[06:52] <Admiral_Chicago> no offense but  thats kinda a dumb question
[06:52] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Sorry, it's on the LFD forums.  Look in the Kubuntu Software section
[06:52] <ubuntu> look my disposition of my keyboard qnd the us.
[06:52] <DaSkreech> agresor: :-)
[06:52] <arso> Admiral_Chicago:  the @ thing?
[06:53] <ubuntu> azertyuiop qsdfghjklm wxcvbn
[06:53] <ubuntu> and the us
[06:53] <arso> Admiral_Chicago:  thats the only unique thing i know about the uk keyboard, so i asked it
[06:53] <ubuntu> qwertyuiop asdfghjkl; zxcvbnm
[06:53] <Hawkwind> larson9999: sudo apt-get install enlightenment emodules0-all
[06:53] <Hawkwind> ubuntu: Please stop
[06:53] <ubuntu> ok
[06:53] <arso> oh not a qwerty that sux
[06:54] <ubuntu> ok
[06:54] <arso> Admiral_Chicago:  anyways, it IS dumb, but i am half asleep so i dont give a shit
[06:54] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: If you would like help you can ask here if you just want to try things out please go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:55] <arso> DaSkreech:  does this place have admins?
[06:55] <Admiral_Chicago> arso, yea its all good
[06:55] <Hawkwind> arso: Might want to watch the language
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Yes
[06:55] <arso> never seen any
[06:55] <arso> or are they undercover
[06:55] <arso> Hawkwind:  k ;)
[06:55] <DaSkreech> That's the point
[06:55] <larson9999> Hawkwind: installing now.  will check after shower and tell you what i think so far
[06:55] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Bouncy today?
[06:56] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: He's just installed my E17 and Xchat debs and is playing around with it
[06:56] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: With the new splash screen?
[06:57] <TheGateKeeper> Hawkwind: not from the repos?
[06:57] <Hawkwind> TheGateKeeper: From my repo on http://SeerOfSouls.com/
[06:57] <arso> is it easy/possible to create a custom splash screen?
[06:57] <arso> !splash
[06:57] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[06:57] <arso> !kde splash
[06:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about kde splash - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:57] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: It's built directly from CVS so it's got the latest stuff in it at all times :)
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Neat
[07:01] <h3sp4wn> !info imlib2
[07:01] <ubotu> Package imlib2 does not exist in dapper
[07:01] <h3sp4wn> !info imlib2 edgy
[07:01] <ubotu> Package imlib2 does not exist in edgy
[07:01] <larson9999> this isn't a *ubnutu question per se but i wonder if any here is cool enough to tell me how to get paulharvery.com to play without stopping after 10:40 seconds.  yes, i'm old enough to like paul harvey.
[07:01] <larson9999> any *nix player would do.
[07:02] <TheGateKeeper> Hawkwind: interesting I'll keep an eye out on that site :-) I was very impressed with the speed of the OliveCD which is a derivative of mandrake and use E17
[07:03] <Healot> !find imlib
[07:03] <Hawkwind> TheGateKeeper: Elive is great.  I know a couple of the maintainers personally and have helped them with a few things over time
[07:03] <ubotu> Found: libimlib2, libimlib2-dev, gdk-imlib1, gdk-imlib11, gdk-imlib11-dev (and 9 others)
[07:03] <Healot> !info libimlib2
[07:03] <ubotu> libimlib2: powerful image loading and rendering library. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.2.1-2 (dapper), package size 188 kB, installed size 548 kB
[07:05] <TheGateKeeper> Hawkwind: not that great, I just could not get X to start up properly :-(, and I don't use anything fancy, even posted the problem in the forum, and don't recall getting an answer
[07:06] <DaSkreech> larson9999: Put it on repeat?
[07:09] <larson9999> DaSkreech: i don't think that's the solution.  i don't want to replay the same thing.  in all the players i've tried all the shows there end after 10:40 or 10:41 but they really aren't finished.  i'm not sure why
[07:09] <chenlevy> Hi kubuntu devs. Is there a place where we can see the status of the 3.5.4 packages? Is there a place we can report problems about them?
[07:09] <fritsch> http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/README
[07:09] <DaSkreech> larson9999: I think I need more information :)
[07:09] <robert__> hola a todos los del chat
[07:09] <agresor> DaSkreech,  my sources.list is broken.. u had right..
[07:09] <DaSkreech> chenlevy: Try #kubuntu-devel or #ubuntu+1
[07:09] <agresor> can you please paste me yours sources.list ?
[07:09] <DaSkreech> agresor: I know :)
[07:10] <agresor> or some good :)
[07:10] <DaSkreech> agresor: You can rebuild them if you lilke
[07:10] <fritsch> chenlevy: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[07:10] <DaSkreech> !easysource > agresor
[07:10] <agresor> i dont know that fucking keys... to add
[07:10] <agresor> blah
[07:10] <agresor> ;]
[07:10] <larson9999> Hawkwind: i get an installation error. dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/enlightenment_1%3a0.16.999.032-0cvs20060801_i386.deb (--unpack):
[07:10] <agresor> ;s
[07:10] <larson9999>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop', which is also in package enlightenment-data
[07:10] <chenlevy> is the sound server bug is known / fixed?
[07:11] <larson9999> Hawkwind: so i installed enlighenment-data and is seems to have set things up.
[07:11] <fritsch> chenlevy: http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5_3to3_5_4.php
[07:12] <Riddell> chenlevy: yes, but other problems aren't
[07:13] <DaSkreech> !language > agresor
[07:13] <hagus> Hallo :)
[07:13] <DaSkreech> agresor: The keys are on the site
[07:13] <mikearthur> I've built my own linux-image, how would I build my own linux-restricted-modules?
[07:13] <fritsch> Riddell: any chance build currend edgy again? or did nothing change?
[07:13] <fritsch> Riddell: kde packages ...
[07:14] <Riddell> fritsch: nothing has changed
[07:14] <tsf3906> hello channel
[07:14] <[GuS] > Hi
[07:14] <tsf3906> hello gus
[07:14] <fritsch> Riddell: i am not very good in c++, but could the other distro maintainers worked around this bug?
[07:15] <fritsch> Riddell: or done sth. different
[07:15] <tsf3906> i am wondering does ubuntu have webcam chat?
[07:15] <hagus> I have been trying to install an HP1100 printer into my kubuntu system.  I have used the printer-add function in the sytem set up and the printer shows up.  However, when I try printing, nothing.
[07:15] <[GuS] > webcamchat? tsf3906
[07:15] <[GuS] > you could try Ekiga
[07:15] <tsf3906> you know ekiga?
[07:15] <[GuS] > yep.
[07:16] <tsf3906> can u do video chatting?
[07:16] <[GuS] > yes
[07:16] <[GuS] > video and voice
[07:16] <tsf3906> where can i get the package?
[07:16] <[GuS] > sudo apt-get install ekiga
[07:16] <[GuS] > type that in the terminal
[07:16] <tsf3906> can i go to add/remove packages ?
[07:16] <[GuS] > yes, that too
[07:16] <[GuS] > search for Ekiga
[07:16] <tsf3906> ok cool
[07:16] <tsf3906> thanks gus
[07:17] <[GuS] > You welcome.
[07:17] <tsf3906> bye for now
[07:17] <[GuS] > I wonder.. it is possible that KDE in Kubuntu is more slowest today?
[07:17] <mikearthur> Riddell: have you intentionally not used the kde-latest link?
[07:17] <Riddell> mikearthur: yes
[07:18] <mikearthur> Riddell: just checking :)
[07:18] <mikearthur> Riddell: that due to the bug you just mentioned?
[07:18] <Riddell> mikearthur: yes
[07:18] <mikearthur> Riddell: cool
[07:19] <hagus> Do you know if you can go to Yahoo Chat rooms using Kopete or is it only IM chats that are possible with it?
[07:20] <hagus> From what I can see of it, it strikes me that it is not an alternative to Yahoo Messenger.
[07:22] <arso> gaim can add yahoo contacts
[07:22] <arso> and msn
[07:22] <arso> and aim
[07:22] <hagus> Yes but it does not seem to support chatting in (say) a Yahoo Chat Room.
[07:23] <arso> dont think so
[07:24] <hagus> What it calls chat is 1-2-1 which I regard more as IM - whereas I was thinking more of 1-2-many.
[07:24] <Hawkwind> Gaim supports yahoo channels perfectly fine
[07:24] <DaSkreech> hagus: A Yahoo Chat room?
[07:24] <Hawkwind> Has for quite some time now
[07:24] <hagus> Yes DaSkreech :)
[07:24] <McScruff> 3.5.4 broken in dapper << NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[07:25] <[GuS] > ?
[07:25] <hagus> Maybe I should give Gaim a whirl :)
[07:25] <hagus> I had not realised that it supports Yahoo Chat.
[07:25] <hagus> Chatroom I mean.
[07:25] <david__> gaim is good
[07:25] <Firetech> McScruff: I second that, especially since I managed to upgrade BEFORE I read that :(
[07:25] <McScruff> gaim is gd but amsn is better for msn
[07:25] <Hawkwind> hagus: It has for atleast 3+ years that I know of
[07:25] <DaSkreech> Yup Kopete is a pain :(
[07:26] <arso> amsn is a pain too
[07:26] <arso> i found gaim to be best
[07:26] <McScruff> amsn is very good
[07:26] <aliasfred> i dont get why kopete and gaim doesnt have the same code base for the network part
[07:26] <arso> hmm kept crashing with me
[07:26] <david__> I'm trying to see if trillian support linux
[07:27] <hagus> Trillian I like but in windows, I find that it does not always support voice chat in Yahoo.
[07:27] <sysrpl> hello
[07:27] <sysrpl> can anyone point me to a working dowload of a vmware ubuntu/kubuntu appliance image? all the torrents/downloads i have found are down (mysql torrent server error) or slow as hell
[07:27] <DaSkreech> aliasfred: Look at telepathy :)
[07:28] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: ?
[07:28] <DaSkreech> aliasfred: http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[07:28] <arso> how do i minimize amsn to tray
[07:28] <larson9999> hawkwind seems to have worked ok.
[07:29] <arso> if i try to close it it tries to quit
[07:29] <McScruff> arso: close it and it asks you
[07:29] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: oh would be good :)
[07:29] <arso> iARE U SURE U WANT TO QUIT
[07:29] <McScruff> arso: oo, im using latest svn :P
[07:29] <arso> oh , i am on a n old version?
[07:29] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: there is another thing similar in the intent, doing vfs. as gnome vfs and kio are doing similar stuffa s well
[07:29] <McScruff> ur prob on the last stable rls
[07:29] <arso> i c
[07:29] <DaSkreech> McScruff: Is he trying to keep up with Live Messenger?
[07:29] <arso> ur on a beta?
[07:29] <BluesKaj> sysrpl, have you tried isohunt http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?ext=&op=and&ihq=VMWare
[07:30] <DaSkreech> aliasfred: Do you have a link
[07:30] <sysrpl> can anyone point me to a working dowload of a vmware ubuntu/kubuntu appliance image? all the torrents/downloads i have found are down (mysql torrent server error) or slow as hell
[07:30] <McScruff> DaSkreech: dont think so, but i think its the nicest msn for linux
[07:30] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: let me find it
[07:31] <BluesKaj> what torrent client are you using , sysrpl ?
[07:31] <arso> anyone here with an uncapped modem?
[07:31] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fdvfs this is what i was talking about
[07:32] <DaSkreech> aliasfred: What does that have to do with IM?
[07:33] <aliasfred> DaSkreech: nothing :) but it is similar to telepathy as it tries to avoid useless code duplication. gnome-vfs/kio are doing the same thing, exactly as kopete and gaim network code are doing the same thing
[07:34] <DaSkreech> Yeah but neither of them seem inclined to use it though
[07:34] <aliasfred> yep this is the 'other' problem :)
[07:35] <hagus> Gaim does not support voice :(
[07:35] <BluesKaj> what is E17 like as a window manager...any opinions ?
[07:35] <ubuntu> como puedo guardar la cofiguracion de red? sque tengo un linux pero no me inicia la red
[07:35] <tsdgeos> !es
[07:35] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:36] <JRH3K5> s
[07:37] <arso> !cn
[07:37] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[07:37] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: It's all I will use. It's different than any other wm out there.  Lots of good options and fun things to play with
[07:37] <arso> hehe
[07:37] <arso> !jap
[07:37] <chris86wm> what is the default wireless manager for kubuntu?
[07:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about jap - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:37] <arso> any azureus users here?
[07:37] <sysrpl> thanks
[07:37] <arso> whenever a msg pop ups
[07:37] <chris86wm> wifi-radar?
[07:37] <arso> it gets stuck there
[07:37] <arso> until i exit azureus
[07:37] <sysrpl> the tracker is working nw
[07:37] <BluesKaj> thx Hawkwind, i'll investigate further
[07:37] <arso> clicking "hide" doesnt do anything
[07:37] <TheGateKeeper> BluesKaj: I liked it, try downloading OLiveCD and give it a test drive yourself
[07:38] <sysrpl> i am using utorrent
[07:38] <arso> anyone facing that 'problem'
[07:38] <arso> utorrent on linux??
[07:38] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: I just put up an E17 repo last night on my http://SeerOfSouls.com/ site if you are interested
[07:38] <sysrpl> no, i am downloaing the vmware ubuntu image
[07:38] <chris86wm> anyone know the default wireless manager for kubuntu?
[07:38] <espenleka> Hi! Anyone using HP NX6125 laptop and succeeded to use its internal Bluetooth device?
[07:38] <arso> wireless assitant
[07:38] <BluesKaj> ok thx gatekeepre , Hawkwind
[07:38] <soulrider> arso i dont think therezs a way ti get rid of that pop up
[07:38] <soulrider> i ahd that problem too
[07:38] <soulrider> and yes, i miss utorrent too :P
[07:38] <chris86wm> is that in the repos?
[07:39] <arso> hehe
[07:39] <arso> :P
[07:39] <soulrider> i just use ktorrent, its better than it seems
[07:39] <floyd_> Can perhaps someone help me? I tried to compile new kopete 0,12,x from SVN, but it always ends up here: jingle/.libs/libkopetejabberjingle.a(ms.o): In function `ms_init':ms.c:(.text+0x6a): undefined reference to `g_thread_init'
[07:39] <soulrider> floyd_: juts get the deb package
[07:39] <soulrider> i think there is one, i updated to 0.12 without any problems
[07:39] <arso> chris86wm:  wlassitant
[07:39] <floyd_> hmm but without jingle support ^^
[07:39] <chris86wm> k, thanks
[07:40] <soulrider> if i have kopete open and i right click something in my desktop kopete crashes
[07:40] <aliasfred> floyd_: link with gthread
[07:40] <DaSkreech> !jp
[07:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about jp - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:40] <arso> soulrider:  it is?
[07:40] <floyd_> aliasfred: how would I do this?
[07:40] <espenleka> !bluetooth
[07:40] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[07:40] <arso> soulrider:  u get full bandwith download/upload rates?
[07:41] <arso> !ktorrent
[07:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about ktorrent - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:41] <arso> !wlassistant
[07:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about wlassistant - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:41] <aliasfred> floyd_: with a computer :) sorry no time to help you
[07:41] <DaSkreech> !info ktorrent
[07:41] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.2-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 738 kB, installed size 2964 kB
[07:41] <grothesk> Will those nice kubuntufications also appear in kde 3.5.4?
[07:41] <soulrider> arso: yes
[07:41] <floyd_> aliasfred: lol
[07:41] <arso> soulrider:  interesting
[07:41] <soulrider> its as fast as any other torrent client
[07:41] <espenleka> hmmm... where should i start to find out why my laptop's internal bluetooth dev is not recognized at all?
[07:41] <arso> i see
[07:42] <arso> how about NAT and firewall and all that stuff
[07:42] <arso> does it auto detect like azureues
[07:42] <soulrider> uhm im not sure, and i dont think so
[07:42] <soulrider> its a lot more simple than the toher clients
[07:42] <soulrider> but its kinda better too
[07:42] <arso> i se
[07:42] <arso> like utorrent :P
[07:42] <soulrider> azureus was good when it started, now its just too full
[07:42] <arso> hah yea
[07:43] <soulrider> azureus stopped being good
[07:43] <arso> resource leech with its java
[07:43] <soulrider> if you wanna run utorrent maybe you can use wine
[07:43] <arso> i need to finish the 25 gb downlaods on azureus then i'll try some other clients
[07:43] <arso> i used to use utorrent on windows
[07:43] <soulrider> yea, me too, and bitcomet before that
[07:43] <arso> but if ktorrent is as good as u say it is, then i'll give it a shot too
[07:43] <arso> me Too@
[07:43] <arso> i started with azureus, then bittorrent, then bitcomet, then utorrent
[07:44] <soulrider> whata re youd ownloading that is 25 GB?
[07:44] <soulrider> the biggest id ownlaoded was 15.3
[07:44] <arso> some anime series, tv series, movies, manga
[07:44] <soulrider> ah
[07:44] <arso> its not 1 file
[07:44] <arso> the biggest of them is 15.9 tho
[07:44] <arso> hajime no ippo an anime series
[07:44] <puttz> some one know were i can find this (GSM 6.10 - 11025Hz,16bit) sound codec???
[07:45] <aliasfred> bt protocol is bad :) just bitching
[07:45] <sledge_from_work> I've got a process that's trying to allocate more than 2 gigs of memory, but fails to do so. Is there a hard-limit on memory allocation and if so, where can I change it?
[07:45] <aliasfred> moving away now :)
[07:45] <arso> yawn?
[07:45] <arso> 2gb DAMN!
[07:45] <puttz> some one know were i can find this (GSM 6.10 - 11025Hz,16bit) sound codec??? plzz help me
[07:45] <soulrider> !windowsXPprinter
[07:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about windowsXPprinter - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:45] <arso> omg i want the nvidia 7950 gx2       1gb of VGA damn!
[07:46] <soulrider> :O:O:O
[07:46] <soulrider> really?
[07:46] <arso> ya :(
[07:46] <soulrider> i bet ALL games run there lol
[07:46] <arso> at the same time!!!
[07:46] <arso> lol
[07:46] <soulrider> lol
[07:47] <sledge_from_work> arso: this machine actually has 4gb of ram :P
[07:47] <arso> sledge_at_work:  nice ;)
[07:48] <soulrider> i cant set the damn printer up
[07:48] <arso> i only have 256mb vga :( shared, 1gb of ram
[07:48] <soulrider> my new mahcine will have 1 gb
[07:48] <soulrider> apaprently im getting it on friday
[07:48] <arso> thats nice
[07:48] <soulrider> arso: 256mb is great
[07:48] <BluesKaj> cool, Hawkwind,...I went to yer site and installed it ...do I have to reboot and choose it at the login menu ?
[07:48] <soulrider> dont complain
[07:48] <arso> soulrider:  ya, but its shared
[07:48] <BluesKaj> E17 that is
[07:48] <arso> so not that good
[07:48] <soulrider> :(
[07:49] <soulrider> o this machine i got 768 RAM and a 256mb GFX card
[07:49] <soulrider> BUT
[07:49] <soulrider> it should be on an 8x slot
[07:49] <soulrider> and its on a 4x slot
[07:49] <soulrider> so runs like ass
[07:49] <arso> o
[07:49] <arso> that sux
[07:49] <arso> why dont u replace the mobo?
[07:49] <soulrider> indeed
[07:49] <soulrider> im getting a new comp on friday lol
[07:49] <soulrider> i sued to ahvea  64 mb card
[07:49] <soulrider> and one day my dad just came witht he 256mb card
[07:49] <soulrider> which was coool
[07:49] <arso> lol
[07:49] <arso> must;ve been
[07:50] <DaSkreech> ktorrent 2.0 is good
[07:50] <soulrider> btu yea, it couldnt really get its full potential out
[07:50] <arso> so its running like a 128?
[07:50] <arso> so wat are the specs of the new pc?
[07:51] <soulrider> i dont know if its running like a 128
[07:51] <soulrider> it runs a bit better than the 64mb i had
[07:51] <arso> thats for sure
[07:51] <soulrider> it will be 3.0 ghz P4 processor
[07:51] <soulrider> 1 gb RAM
[07:51] <soulrider> 256 mb card
[07:51] <soulrider> i think my dad said a 12x slot
[07:51] <arso> thats nice,
[07:51] <soulrider> im not too sure, maybe he got confused
[07:51] <arso> very close to mine
[07:51] <arso> but i have 3.2 p4
[07:51] <soulrider> and im getting another HD
[07:51] <sledge_at_work> it's not the amount of vram on the card that matters the most :>
[07:51] <soulrider> so ill have 2 120gb Hds :P
[07:52] <arso> cool
[07:52] <arso> i have 200gbs :D
[07:52] <arso> 120+40+40
[07:52] <BluesKaj> soulrider https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter?highlight=%28WindowsXPPrinter%29
[07:52] <soulrider> although i think one of them is broken
[07:52] <arso> hehe
[07:52] <arso> i want a 700gb or 750
[07:52] <arso> sledge_at_work:  then wat is that matters? pipelines?
[07:52] <espenleka> how i can know which bluetooth device i have? and does my linux recognize it?
[07:52] <soulrider> would be awesome
[07:53] <soulrider> sledge_at_work: whatw ill determine how well your card runs ?
[07:53] <sledge_at_work> arso: the gpu, fillrate, etc.
[07:53] <arso> anyways my ati integrated 256 is laggy at 1024*768 half quality need for speed most wanted
[07:53] <arso> which really disapointed me
[07:53] <arso> sledge_at_work:  no idea wat those are :P
[07:53] <sledge_at_work> ram matters, too. but you wouldn't want to run a 386 with a 1gb of ram, right? :P
[07:53] <arso> anyways i plan on getting a nvidia 256 series 6 in a couple of month
[07:54] <arso> haha
[07:54] <arso> yea
[07:54] <arso> those new intel core 2 duo are amazing
[07:54] <arso> beat all the amd processors
[07:54] <arso> any cs 1.6 players here/
[07:54] <soulrider> i just hope that my new machine runs well you know, just top be able to run most games anda  decent framerate
[07:55] <soulrider> i hate CS :P
[07:55] <arso> lol
[07:55] <arso> any idea wat vga it will be?
[07:55] <soulrider> CS?
[07:55] <arso> best thing to do is assemble ur own pc
[07:55] <arso> no, ur new pc,
[07:55] <soulrider> yea
[07:55] <soulrider> definately!
[07:56] <DaSkreech> I want a AMD with integrated ATI X4500L337 GPU and 4 GB Internal FSB
[07:56] <arso> i assembled this on my own
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Of course I digress
[07:56] <arso> 4gb fsb? that exists!?
[07:56] <sledge_at_work> that can't exist.
[07:57] <sledge_at_work> maybe you meant 4ghz?
[07:57] <aliasfred> :)
[07:57] <arso> i want core 2 duo 3.46 + nvidia 7950 gx2 + 4gb ram + 42inch plasma + 750gb hdd
[07:57] <aliasfred> i want a turing machine, this beat intel + amd unified :)
[07:58] <arso> lol
[07:58] <arso> i want a car :(
[07:58] <aliasfred> i want a brain
[07:58] <adam__> me too
[07:58] <arso> lol
[07:58] <sledge_at_work> DaSkreech: http://linux.about.com/cs/linux101/g/wheelofreincarn.htm :)
[07:58] <arso> i want to uncap my modem
[07:58] <sledge_at_work> I want games for Linux.
[07:59] <arso> me 2 ;:(:(:(:
[07:59] <arso> anyone has an account on BitMeTV.org?
[07:59] <arso> its invite only
[07:59] <arso> i seriously need an account
[07:59] <DaSkreech> sledge_at_work: ha ha :) Yeah I hope they can integrate the Mother board into it as well
[08:00] <arso> anyone?>
[08:00] <DaSkreech> !games
[08:00] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[08:00] <nnn0> arso - plasma sux ;)
[08:00] <arso> nnn0:  lol
[08:00] <arso> nnn0:  i wanna play on a projector :P
[08:01] <nnn0> crt beats lcd and plasma any day - until SED and OLED comes around
[08:01] <arso> 3/4 women prefer a plasma tv over a diamond necklace these days
[08:01] <arso> nnn0:  ya, but lcd looks better :P
[08:01] <nnn0> no
[08:01] <arso> yes it does
[08:01] <arso> not image
[08:01] <nnn0> CRT owns :)
[08:01] <arso> the hardware itself
[08:02] <nnn0> that's what i mean
[08:02] <arso> lol
[08:02] <arso> crt is too fat
[08:02] <arso> unless u dig a whole in ur wall
[08:02] <nnn0> i like'em fat
[08:02] <arso> hole*
[08:02] <arso> hehe
[08:02] <arso> best for gaming anyway
[08:02] <unknown_one> hello
[08:02] <arso> helllo
[08:03] <DaSkreech> unknown_one: I dont know you!!
[08:03] <unknown_one> :O
[08:03] <arso> lol
[08:03] <unknown_one> I need some help setting up my wifi connection using WPA
[08:03] <unknown_one> I've got no clue where to start
[08:03] <arso> okay
[08:03] <paines> is there a newsletter for kubuntu news / annoucements ?
[08:03] <DaSkreech> !newsletter
[08:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about newsletter - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:03] <DaSkreech> Guess not :)
[08:03] <nnn0> just like my 450 MHz Netfinity 5500 :D it takes the space of 6 towers, but i still love that puter :)
[08:04] <DaSkreech> paines: The Ubuntu newsletter also contains Kubuntu news
[08:04] <Zeha> pitchuuuu
[08:04] <paines> DaSkreech, thanks
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Or if you would like to help you can read the Kubuntu meeting notes
[08:04] <unknown_one> is there some sort of GUI wifi manager for kubuntu?
[08:04] <pointwood> hi, how do I debug sound? I have no sound at all :(
[08:05] <DaSkreech> It was discussed in the last meetin
[08:05] <Philip5> Hawkwind: where in the *ubuntu forums did you post about the repo?
[08:05] <Zeha> Pitchuuu?
[08:05] <Zeha> am i dead?
[08:06] <Zeha> ok, bye!
[08:06] <paines> DaSkreech, where are those notes ?
[08:07] <arso> does anyone have an account at an invite only tracker?
[08:07] <unknown_one> what about kwifimanager?
[08:08] <arso> wat about it
[08:08] <unknown_one> would it make setting up wpa easy?
[08:08] <arso> would it, guys?
[08:09] <trappist> arso: you could always try it
[08:09] <aliasfred> you transformed #kubuntu in #0dayswarez, now up to you to handle the help :)
[08:10] <h3sp4wn> unknown_one: The most reliable way is to just setup wpa_supplicant as detailed in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes
[08:11] <unknown_one> thank you h3sp4wn :)
[08:11] <arso> trappist:  not for me :P , for unknown_one
[08:11] <arso> right now i just want an invitation to an elite invite only t racker
[08:11] <trappist> oh yeah
[08:12] <trappist> arso: inappropriate for this channel
[08:12] <arso> trappist:  k
[08:12] <niki> hallo
[08:13] <arso> hello
[08:14] <niki> oh sorry i dont no its in english
[08:14] <aliasfred> niki: german ?
[08:15] <aliasfred> !de
[08:15] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:15] <unknown_one> sorry if this is a stupid question but is kde 3.5.4 avalible for kubuntu yet?
[08:15] <niki> yes iam german oh thanks
[08:16] <aliasfred> unknown_one: yep heard people who tried it and reported trouble. so likely early and not stable
[08:16] <unknown_one> aliasfred, alright
[08:16] <alterato> Quick question, does kubuntu allow for managing dual displays w/spanning from Control Panel or do you still have to fiddle with the xorg config?
[08:16] <unknown_one> anything similar to gimp for kde?
[08:17] <arso> could someone help me out please, wat the hell is this security code? i cant tell the letters http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/6827/imgdx5.png
[08:17] <unknown_one> arso, whoah heh
[08:17] <[GuS] > Krita maybe unknown_one
[08:17] <aliasfred> unknown_one: not really an equivalent, but there is krita
[08:18] <unknown_one> alright, I'm just looking for a program to do web graphics in :)
[08:18] <[GuS] > Gimp is better...
[08:18] <unknown_one> [GuS] , for some reason I can't create stuff that looks good in gimp :-\
[08:18] <[GuS] > you need practice then :)
[08:19] <unknown_one> [GuS] , also the muti individual windows are not fun to use.
[08:19] <unknown_one> *Multi
[08:19] <[GuS] > that depends of who is usign it
[08:20] <aliasfred> krita is known to be easier to use
[08:20] <unknown_one> I prefer just one window with toolbars :-\
[08:20] <[GuS] > use Windows and adobe then :P
[08:20] <trappist> yeah gimp needs tabs like firefox :)
[08:20] <unknown_one> [GuS] , ewww
[08:20] <trappist> there's also the photoshopped-up gimp patch to give you a photoshop-like interface
[08:21] <[GuS] > there you go
[08:21] <exobuzz> well.. i upgraded to kde 3.5.4 without reading the readme.. oh dear :)
[08:21] <unknown_one> gimpshop?
[08:21] <aliasfred> funny how gimp can have such a poor interface while he has been the model for a whole gui aka gnome :)
[08:21] <aliasfred> poor interface as in 'many people complains about it'
[08:21] <[GuS] > who says that Gnome has such a nice gui :P
[08:22] <aliasfred> :)
[08:22] <alterato> Quick question, does kubuntu allow for managing dual displays w/spanning from Control Panel or do you still have to fiddle with the xorg config?
[08:22] <unknown_one> I once emailed the developers of the gimp asking about a version with one window and tabs, and I was told "No"
[08:22] <unknown_one> :P
[08:23] <[GuS] > develop one unknown_one  :P
[08:23] <trappist> alterato: it supports it, but I had bad luck using it.
[08:23] <unknown_one> [GuS] , some day =P
[08:24] <[GuS] > ;)
[08:24] <exobuzz> http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/README
[08:24] <exobuzz> (i should have read that)
[08:24] <alterato> trappist: were you using nvidia drivers or ati?
[08:24] <trappist> exobuzz: yeah I'm glad I did :)
[08:24] <[GuS] > to late ah? :P
[08:24] <trappist> alterato: ati - I suspect that was the problem
[08:24] <exobuzz> yeh
[08:24] <trappist> alterato: backup your xorg.conf and give it a shot
[08:24] <exobuzz> i can put up with a bit of a messy config for a few days.. as long as they manage to fix it
[08:25] <alterato> Just wanted to check before downloading and switching from fedora
[08:25] <alterato> trappist: thanks for the info :)
[08:25] <aliasfred> alterato: ubuntu got tools to install package, i mean tools which doesnt require 300mbyte and 5min to answer 'notfound' :)
[08:26] <aliasfred> alterato: real better :) a fc user here :)
[08:26] <h3sp4wn> alterato: nvidia-xconfig is the easiest way to setup X
[08:26] <alterato> Well my previous experiences with ubuntu and kubuntu have been disasterous for that reason which has always brought me back to FC
[08:27] <soulrider> !wine
[08:27] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:27] <arso> !info wine