[12:00] <user__> arg. hi.  can someone tell me the quickest way to change the screensaver settings in default dapper?
[12:00] <pianoboy3333> I compiled amarok 1.4.2 and I guess it didn't get put into my bin
[12:01] <nosse> ok, this is bropably dum, but I'm using irssi and is there any way to see the whole topic? it's longer than my screen is wide
[12:01] <pianoboy3333> uhhh...........
[12:01] <StoneNote> user__, a shotgun
[12:01] <kaot> pianoboy3333: coulda gone into /opt or /usr/local/ by default
[12:01] <pianoboy3333> lamego: where can I find the binary that I can link to?
[12:01] <pianoboy3333> maybe
[12:01] <pianoboy3333> lemme look
[12:01] <ravenous> nosse: well you can /topic but as far as showing it the whole time i dunno
[12:01] <nosse> thanks
[12:01] <nosse> first time ever to see so long topic
[12:01] <lamego> pianoboy3333, : sudo apt-get install amarok
[12:01] <pianoboy3333> NO
[12:01] <pianoboy3333> lamego: I need mtp support
[12:02] <user__> StoneNote: ... is that in the accessories menu... :-p
[12:02] <anthony> __david, you there still?
[12:02] <StoneNote> lol
[12:02] <qatsi> ATI isnt supported for Xgl right >
[12:02] <thoffland> user_: System/screensaver
[12:02] <kaot> qatsi: depends.  I've got a Mobility 9000 / R250, it works on mine
[12:02] <ravenous> qatsi: of course it is
[12:02] <lamego> qatsi, it's not ? I have used XGL with my Radeon 9600
[12:02] <pianoboy3333> qatsi: I have my radeon working with xgl....
[12:02] <thoffland> user_: if your using Gnome desktop... if your using KDE I cant help
[12:03] <qatsi> darn !! so, why cant i use xgl with my Radeon 9550 ?? anyone has a good tutorial ?
[12:03] <qatsi> or howto, or anything ?
[12:03] <ravenous> !xgl
[12:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:03] <jake1> I have a Lucent Technologies card that supposebly says Orinocco on it......... is there a particular way to tell which driver it is using on Ubuntu
[12:03] <StoneNote> user_ KDE is Settings | Appearance & Themes | Screensaves
[12:03] <ravenous> tada
[12:03] <pirx67> jrib: The change in the sources list fixed the problem with the missing dependency of libid3tag0. Thank you and bye.
[12:03] <jake1> at this point
[12:03] <qatsi> lamego: you have the same card as me, does it work smoothly ?
[12:03] <kaot> qatsi: the one I used:  http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=389
[12:03] <lamego> qatsi, make sure you have the 3d driver installed to start with :)
[12:03] <lamego> qatsi, yes it does
[12:04] <thoffland> can anyone tell me if it's necessary to install the service packs for windows when using them in VMWare?
[12:04] <qatsi> lamego: i have direct rendering working at 1700 fps...thats the only thing i know...
[12:04] <kaot> video playback is a bit rough, I've heard that's the case across all ATIs for some reason.
[12:04] <kaot> (in Xgl)
[12:04] <user__> thoffland: gnome (default Ubuntu), but ... i don't see screensaver under system/preferences or system/administration (or system/)
[12:04] <castillo> help!!! i'm new at ubuntu and i don't know how to install programs
[12:04] <markrian> thoffland: depends what you mean
[12:04] <StoneNote> thoffland, you mean when running windows as a virtual appliance?
[12:04] <erUSUL> thoffland: no more nor less that is neccessary in any other machine i guess
[12:04] <kaot> castillo: System-> administration -> synaptic
[12:05] <lamego> castillo, help.ubuntu.com the guide is nice
[12:05] <sethk> user__, look for screen configuration
[12:05] <thoffland> ok, thanks
[12:05] <gre1> i have an aol account but it wont work in gaim all though all my aim acoounts work how do if that?
[12:05] <gre1> srry typos
[12:06] <lamego> does gaim supports the aim protocol ?
[12:06] <thoffland> i'm just using XP Pro as a virtual machine on my Dapper system... to run Flash and Dreamweaver... they dont require it on install, but I was just wondering if there was a reason I should try to install it
[12:06] <gre1> yes
[12:06] <livingdaylight> anyone have experience of using Enlightenment?
[12:06] <gre1> i have 2 aim accounts on it
[12:06] <gre1> 1 aol one
[12:06] <castillo> thanks, but the problem is that i want to install yahoo messenger and it doesn't appear in the list
[12:06] <gre1> but the other aol won wont work
[12:06] <erUSUL> lamego: well it began being Gnome AIM --> gaim ;)
[12:06] <castillo> and i already downloaded it
[12:06] <gre1> its reall old aol account
[12:06] <kaot> livingdaylight: I've used it, only e16 though and not for a long time.
[12:06] <lamego> erUSUL, ok :P
[12:06] <user__> sethk: system/preferences/'screen resolution' is the closest thing i see
[12:07] <Blacklight> hey guys, i need some help.
[12:07] <Blacklight> i just downloaded both Wine files using synaptic pakage manager, how do i install them or access them?
[12:07] <livingdaylight> kaot: did you compile it or use synaptic to install
[12:07] <gre1> whats wrong w/ it?
[12:07] <kaot> user__: you don't see screensaver right beneath that?
[12:07] <thoffland> user_: you should see screensaver in there
[12:07] <sethk> user__, I use kde, so I'm not sure how to find it in gnome.  In kde you can right click on an empty part of the desktop
[12:07] <lamego> Blacklight, you run it from the terminal: wine program.exe
[12:07] <user__> kaot: no, i see 'sessions'
[12:07] <kaot> livingdaylight: lately I used synaptic, but I only used it for about 10 minutes under ubuntu
[12:07] <dark0wl> can someone read me the command for configuring keyboard ?
[12:07] <Blacklight> terminal ay?
[12:08] <dark0wl> ?
[12:08] <livingdaylight> kaot: so, i can instill in ubuntu using synaptic, what happens then?
[12:08] <user__> sethk: yah.  i just want gnome's "sensible" defaults to be more telepathic for me..
[12:08] <livingdaylight> kaot: do i reboot?
[12:08] <sethk> user__, telepathic?  :)
[12:08] <livingdaylight> kaot: and do i keep the choice of using gnome window manager or englighenment
[12:09] <kaot> livingdaylight: you should simply be able to log out, and then click "sessions" on your gdm login screen and switch to enlightenment.  Yes, you still have the choice of which to use.
[12:09] <user__> sethk: they should read my mind to find out what's sensible for me!  (kde is more convenient when i need to find something)
[12:09] <livingdaylight> kaot: thanks. Just needed reassuring.
[12:09] <silentj> livingdaylight : do you use englighenment? is it good? Is it anything like Fluxbox ? I like fluxbox becaused of all the cool colors and stuff but it is like to damn hard to configure/// Heard Englightenment was good tho???
[12:09] <livingdaylight> kaot: it doesn't adversely affect ubuntu install in any way
[12:10] <nosse> vould it be nice if those links in the topic would be on one website?
[12:10] <dark0wl> can someone read me the command for configuring keyboard ?
[12:10] <kaot> livingdaylight: no it doesn't.  if you don't like it you can take it right out via synaptic
[12:10] <jake1> is there a way to do this
[12:10] <Blacklight> er... when you say terminal what do you mean?
[12:10] <kaot> silentj: enlightenment is far more flexible and configurable than fluxbox, but a little wonky in my experience.  Not a bad wm, all in all.
[12:10] <jake1> you mean what is the terminal?
[12:10] <Blacklight> yeh
[12:11] <jake1> are you familiar with the term console?
[12:11] <livingdaylight> silentj: no, haven't used it yet. Read a cool article about enlightenment and fluxbox in Linux Journal which has inspired me to try it. I chose Enlightenment over fluxbox because of the promise of animated background
[12:11] <silentj> koat, you think its better than gnome?
[12:11] <Blacklight> if its a linux term... no
[12:11] <castillo> how can i install yahoo messenger, please if someone knows...
[12:11] <jake1> BlackLight: are you a linux user?
[12:11] <Blacklight> only new
[12:11] <StoneNote> Blacklight, like a windows c prompt box in a window.
[12:11] <silentj> I like Gnome but the thing that sucks is you really cant customize it alot
[12:11] <castillo> i need help
[12:11] <jake1> ah
[12:11] <StoneNote> but more
[12:11] <jake1> well you should DEFINATELY familiarize your self with the terminal
[12:11] <ravenous> livingdaylight: pretty sure animated backgrounds are only in e17
[12:11] <Blacklight> lol
[12:12] <jake1> you will be spending lots of time there
[12:12] <DaveK> Im finding that quite often apps cant be run properly without using sudo. such as gimp cant open images or xsane cant open the scanner drivers is there a fix for this or a solution
[12:12] <jake1> it's how you control the system
[12:12] <kaot> silentj: enlightenment?  well, as far as I know they stopped major development on E16, and have moved onto E17, which isn't done yet.  E16 is therefore lacking a bit of the polish Gnome has, and also its default setup isn't as accessible as Gnome's
[12:12] <jake1> it's like MSDOS in the sense that it is all text based
[12:12] <silentj> koat I see
[12:12] <clementin> ss
[12:12] <Blacklight> mmk
[12:12] <livingdaylight> ravenous: Yes, e17. Does ubuntu not have that version?
[12:12] <kaot> silentj: but depending on what you're looking for, it could be better than Gnome
[12:13] <kaot> silentj: it is, as I've said, ridiculously configurable
[12:13] <ravenous> livingdaylight: nope, it has 16 .. 17 is still beta and has to be compiled from CVS
[12:13] <eternalswd> I have sun java installed, how do I compile .java files with it?
[12:13] <livingdaylight> ravenous: that's what made me want to try it!
[12:13] <Blacklight> well ive got the terminal open
[12:13] <thoffland> silentJ: I use fluxbox on my other machine, only tried Enlightenment briefly, but I like fluxbox much better. At least for my 128mb 800mhz laptop
[12:13] <livingdaylight> ravenous: arrgh...
[12:13] <StoneNote> Blacklight, cool. I'll have a big mac, large fries...
[12:13] <kaot> thoffland: I ran enlightenment on a 600mhz athlon, 128MB ram, ran pretty well for all that.
[12:13] <Blacklight> would you like to upsize that for a dollar?
[12:13] <kaot> that was forever ago, though.
[12:14] <StoneNote> Blacklight, supersize me
[12:14] <kaot> I was used to a certain degree of sluggishness.  :\
[12:14] <silentj> what do you suggest as far as an alternate UI? Gnome is cool but I wanna change my window colors for example ya know alot more transperancys ect. I have a super fast machine so its not for speed, just eyecandy
[12:14] <sharperguy> Who's on secondlife?
[12:14] <Blacklight> im sorry, we dont have supersize in australia
[12:14] <kaot> silentj: look into Compiz
[12:14] <sharperguy> oops, wrong channel
[12:14] <sharperguy> !offtopic
[12:14] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:14] <silentj> koat : ahh yes, In my dreams
[12:14] <StoneNote> Blacklight, nevermind that. why is there vegamite on my mac?
[12:14] <Blacklight> *sigh*
[12:14] <bEDO> can anyone help me .. and give a room for begginners
[12:14] <silentj> koat, 3 times I tried to install XGL 3 times i had to reinstall Ubin2
[12:15] <kaot> silentj: otherwise, yeah, I'd say give enlightenment a shot.  You'll have to do some research to learn everything you can configure with it
[12:15] <Blacklight> oh yeh, did i forget to tell you we eat kangaroo meat daily? *cough* fool*cough*
[12:15] <Blacklight> :P
[12:15] <DaveK> Blacklight -- offtopic
[12:15] <Blacklight> all i want to know is how to run wine
[12:15] <jake1> can anyone tell me what driver my wireless card is using
[12:15] <kaot> silentj: I had a few nice screenshots from years ago, where my desktop was 4 differently-tinted transparent terms (Red, purple, blue, green), transparent xchat windows, etc
[12:15] <DaveK> sudo wine
[12:15] <jake1> there needs to be a command
[12:15] <jake1> i jst dnt know what it is
[12:15] <Alt127> hello
[12:15] <kaot> silentj: I can't find them though, unfortunately
[12:15] <DaveK> or just type wine
[12:15] <StoneNote> Blacklight, apt-get install wine ... do you have the repsoitories in your sources.list in /etc/apt/ ?
[12:16] <bEDO> HELLo0o
[12:16] <DaveK> no offence
[12:16] <bEDO> can anyone help me here
[12:16] <Blacklight> hold on
[12:16] <DaveK> but i have asked a questio 2x
[12:16] <DaveK> Im finding that quite often apps cant be run properly without using sudo. such as gimp cant open images or xsane cant open the scanner drivers is there a fix for this or a solution
[12:16] <thoffland> bEDO: ask your question?
[12:16] <DaveK> and now a third
[12:16] <pianoboy3333> bEDO: ok, what's the problem?
[12:16] <Blacklight> too many people speaking :S
[12:16] <bEDO> i wanna channel or someplace for begginers ..
[12:16] <Blacklight> i got the files off synaptic package manager
[12:16] <thoffland> bEDO: I think this is it\
[12:16] <pianoboy3333> bEDO: please just ask you question
[12:17] <mutk> eternalswd, http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/getStarted/cupojava/unix.html  <---
[12:17] <StoneNote> Blacklight, synaptic uses apt's sources.list so that's fine
[12:17] <bEDO> well but i need to ask some primitave questions !!
[12:17] <peteweez> bEDO: Just ask your question here...people are usually happy to help
[12:17] <debnub_> is there a channel for networking?
[12:17] <jake1> ok wtf?
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> bEDO: no problem. just ask
[12:17] <pianoboy3333> bEDO: please, just ask your question
[12:17] <jake1> what command tells me what driver my wireless card is using
[12:17] <bEDO> infact .. i like linux system .. and the idea of open sources ..
[12:17] <vge> jake lspci
[12:18] <bEDO> and i have tried the live CD of ubuntu and liked it so much ..
[12:18] <jake1> thankyou
[12:18] <ladydoor> !ask
[12:18] <jake1> bEDo ask question
[12:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:18] <bEDO> but before getting involved i wanna make sure if i won't regret it
[12:18] <nosse> :D
[12:18] <jake1> bEDo what would make you regret it?
[12:18] <pianoboy3333> bEDO: that's really something only you can decide
[12:18] <bEDO> and how much time do i need to adapt to it ..
[12:18] <kaot> bEDO: lay hands on a second hard drive,then.  That way you could always yank it and go back to windows.
[12:18] <jake1> do you like your first born child
[12:18] <peteweez> bEDO ppl here don't flame (usually)
[12:18] <jake1> ?
[12:19] <wifiworks> how do i cp a dir?
[12:19] <kaot> wifiworks: cp -R
[12:19] <wifiworks> cp /sdjl/ /klsdfjklsdf/
[12:19] <debnub_> is there a irc channel for networking?
[12:19] <wifiworks> man i dum
[12:19] <thoffland> wifiworks: use sudo
[12:19] <_lupine> wifiworks: cp -a is iusually a better idea
[12:19] <vge> bEDO: you might be safer with KDE if your coming from windows
[12:19] <sethk> wifiworks, sometimes cp -a is better.  check man cp
[12:19] <debnub_> Hi everyone. need help configuring my home network. 1 laptop+1box+adsl router. name resolution problem i think
[12:19] <peteweez> debnub_: try /list #net*
[12:19] <peteweez> that might have networking channels
[12:19] <Jack_Sparrow> debnub: That covers a lot of ground.. could you be more specific
[12:19] <bEDO> ok .. the second question
[12:19] <kaot> oh neat.  Never used cp -a.
[12:20] <bEDO> i have laptop centrino 1.6
[12:20] <bEDO> and have an old pached pc .. 45o p3
[12:20] <wifiworks> what if i want to cp to the curent dir do i have to type the destination path again or is there a trick
[12:20] <bEDO> with 490 mb Rams
[12:20] <longwave> wifiworks: just use a . for the current dir
[12:20] <_lupine> "." is a symlink to the current DIR
[12:20] <wifiworks> .
[12:20] <_lupine> ".." is one dir up
[12:20] <wifiworks> cool
[12:20] <bEDO> can i run ubunto on that
[12:20] <bEDO> ?
[12:20] <_lupine> "..." doesn't exist ;)
[12:20] <_lupine> (../.. does, however)
[12:20] <wifiworks> _lupine: ah i  see no i get cd . .  hehe
[12:21] <peteweez> bEDO: try Debian...it has very low system requirements
[12:21] <_lupine> bEDO: shouls be able to
[12:21] <peteweez> ubuntu might work
[12:21] <thoffland> bEDO: yes, I run it on a laptop that has 128mb ram pIII ... but it might be slow
[12:21] <longwave> bEDO: yes, ubuntu will run on that, though the gnome desktop will probably be rather slow. you could try xubuntu which works better on lower-end hardware.
[12:21] <_lupine> IF unsure, xubuntu will run on anything
[12:21] <wifiworks> ok sudo cp -aR   and i cant go wrong
[12:21] <D0wn> I need some help installing libqt3-mt. Everytime I do a "dpkg -i libqt3-mt_3.3.6-4_i385.deb" I get an error
[12:21] <mckinnoj> So I decided to give Amarok a try, but it is amazingly slow.  Any ideas?  I don't think it's my machine, as I have a 3GHz processor and 1 gig of RAM
[12:21] <thoffland> yes, xubuntu is nice too
[12:21] <acidian> how do I open a windows shared folder by ip in console?
[12:21] <_lupine> but my PC is 5123MB RAM, and it runs KDE fine
[12:21] <peteweez> DOwn: does it say it'll break packages or something?
[12:21] <_lupine> erm, 512MB ;)
[12:21] <kaot> wifiworks: -aR is actually redundant, as -a implies -R
[12:21] <acidian> like I want to open a folder thats shared on <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:21] <amonkey> are there any caveats to using xfs in ubuntu? I'm going to have a 500gb partition filled with very large files and read it was better for them.
[12:21] <bEDO> what is the diference between Ubunto and Xubunto !!
[12:22] <_lupine> xUbuntu uses the XFCE desktop; Ubuntu uses Gnome
[12:22] <longwave> dorel__: why are you using dpkg? libqt3-mt is available in the repositories
[12:22] <_lupine> (Kubuntu uses KDE)
[12:22] <bEDO> so i need a different version
[12:22] <_lupine> unlike windows, you have a choice of desktop :)
[12:22] <longwave> sorry, D0wn: why are you using dpkg? libqt3-mt is available in the repositories
[12:22] <bEDO> or it is an option in instrallation ?
[12:22] <kaot> acidian: check Places -> Network Servers if you're in gnome
[12:22] <bEDO> installation*
[12:22] <_lupine> different CDs
[12:22] <_lupine> TBH, you would be fine with Ubuntu
[12:22] <acidian> kaot: I need to do it in terminal
[12:23] <debnub_> peteweez: thanks, i've learned how to search a channell. zero hits :)
[12:23] <peteweez> D0wn: libqt3c102-mt (older ver) is incompatible with libqt3-mt (newer ver), so you need to recompile apps that are compiled against libqt3c102-mt
[12:23] <peteweez> debnub_: oh sorry
[12:23] <bEDO> but all of them have the same way to work .. and same results ?
[12:23] <longwave> debnub_: if your question is related to networking on ubuntu, ask it here
[12:23] <D0wn> I'm trying to install Skype, and it requires libqt3-mt
[12:23] <kaot> acidian: ah.  Got a name for the computer or does it have to be ip?
[12:23] <acidian> name works
[12:23] <Blacklight> when i type wine PROGRAM into the terminal to boot it, it says: "c:\\windows\\system32\\PROGRAM.exe" why is it trying to run off windows?
[12:23] <_lupine> bEDO: it's basically the eye candy that differs
[12:23] <longwave> D0wn: what does "sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt" say?
[12:23] <D0wn> Tried
[12:23] <D0wn> No luck
[12:24] <acidian> kaot: isnt ip and name the same?
[12:24] <longwave> D0wn: exactly what is the error message, though
[12:24] <peteweez> D0wn: does it say you have to remove packages to install libqt3-mt?
[12:24] <_lupine> either one will run linux applications equally well
[12:24] <_lupine> D0wn: try using aptitude. It's smarter than apt-get
[12:24] <bEDO> ok .. if i got a new pc .. is there any recommendations for the system
[12:24] <anthony> heya how do I change language in OOo to English (UK) ? I keep changing it, but it keeps flicking back..... any ideas anyone?
[12:24] <kaot> acidian: depends.  anyway you should be able to just say mount -t smbfs //(ipaddress)/(share name) /mountpoint/foo
[12:24] <bEDO> and can i install both windows and ubunto ?
[12:24] <_lupine> nVidia graphics card is my only suggestion
[12:25] <pianoboy3333> bEDO: yes.... it's complicated though
[12:25] <kaot> acidian: where mountpoint is the directory you want the share to hang off of
[12:25] <_lupine> You can dual-boot win and lin no problems
[12:25] <_lupine> it is trivial
[12:25] <_lupine> :)
[12:25] <kaot> acidian: all that is sudo of course
[12:25] <acidian> kaot: ok Ill try that
[12:25] <_lupine> split the hard drive into two, install windows first
[12:25] <erUSUL> bEDO: yes make sure you install windows first
[12:25] <debnub_> longwave: yes now running winxp on a dualboot system (xp+ubuntu). also have a box and a dsl-router. winxp works fine, all internet services running. on ubuntu only partial services. updates ok but no www.
[12:25] <peteweez> D0WN: Why don't you put your error message in a pastebin??
[12:25] <manux> Hi!
[12:25] <D0wn> I am
[12:25] <D0wn> It's loading
[12:25] <peteweez> ok good
[12:26] <manux> ANyone can help me with a surecom ep-9428 wireless pcmcia board
[12:26] <manux> It doesn't work
[12:26] <manux> I've use ndiswrapper but the return message is invalid drivers
[12:26] <peteweez> manux: is your card broken or do you need drivers?
[12:26] <bEDO> thnx ppl for the help ..
[12:27] <thoffland> When I tried running GTKPod I get a segmentation error... anyone have some insight on this?
[12:27] <bEDO> hope soon i'll ask more important questions
[12:27] <manux> peteweez: I need drivers
[12:27] <thoffland> bEDO: good luck!! have fun with it!
[12:27] <kaot> manux: what chipset does the card use?
[12:27] <manux> kaot: rtl8180
[12:27] <kaot> manux: not familiar with that one, sorry
[12:27] <D0wn> http://pastebin.com/779282
[12:27] <mutk> bEDO, In Linux world, 'diving in and exploring' is a good way to learn..
[12:27] <bEDO> Hope So .. i like the idea.. and it seems better in some aspects ..
[12:27] <peteweez> manux: sounds like it might be atheros
[12:27] <peteweez> that needs madwifi
[12:28] <longwave> debnub_: do you use automatic configuration (DHCP) on xp and ubuntu, or have you had to enter manual settings on either OS?
[12:28] <manux> madwifi?
[12:28] <peteweez> manux: driver for atheros chipsets...I think it's in ubuntu
[12:28] <D0wn> peteweez: http://pastebin.com/779282
[12:28] <debnub_> longwave: using static ip on every os.
[12:28] <Morphboy> My Ubuntu crashed while I was upgrading to LT 6.06 LTS so I had to reboot. Now it's fucked! How do I take it back to scratch? I don't care about my files.
[12:28] <peteweez> D0wn:ok hold on
[12:28] <manux> oh, I understand
[12:29] <lamego> Morphboy, just insert the cd and install it
[12:29] <thoffland> Morphboy: can you just reinstall from the live cd?
[12:29] <longwave> debnub_: you are using the same static ip on xp and ubuntu including netmask, default gateway and dns server entries?
[12:29] <Morphboy> I don't have the CD anymore
[12:29] <Morphboy> is there any way to install it again through root?
[12:29] <debnub_> longwave: yes. i've set my router as the dns server
[12:29] <thoffland> Morphboy: if you have a terminal, sudo apt-get -f install
[12:30] <peteweez> D0WN: did you try apt-get update?
[12:30] <longwave> Morphboy: you can try setting your sources.list to use dapper then "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade", it may still finish the upgrade
[12:30] <Morphboy> I have a recovery terminal.. are you sure that will be able to access the intarhnet?
[12:30] <D0wn> Will try
[12:30] <thoffland> longwave's idea is better...
[12:31] <D0wn> It finished
[12:31] <ciscosurfer> are the forums down?
[12:31] <Morphboy> nah I prefer Breezy Badger, or at least a friend told me it's better
[12:31] <D0wn> Now it's working
[12:31] <kaot> ciscosurfer: I dunno, what would the difference be?  :O
[12:31] <kaot> I keed, I keed!
[12:31] <wifiworks> should i give ndiswrapper xp 98 or 2k drivers?
[12:31] <longwave> debnub_: does it resolve anything if you try "nslookup www.google.com" at the terminal on the ubuntu box?
[12:31] <eefmraimundo> help
[12:31] <peteweez> D0WN: Did it solve your problem?
[12:31] <ciscosurfer> kaot: they'd be up
[12:32] <D0wn> Yeah, I think so. Thanks :D
[12:32] <silentj_> Hey all, I have a question, I want to download this cool system monitor thing, it like docks itself to your desktop It tells you your CPU speed, temp, time, gives you email allerts ect. But Ive no idea what its called anyone help me out? I saw it once on DSL linux
[12:32] <peteweez> D0wn: sure...happy I could help!
[12:32] <Morphboy> But how will I be able to access the internet through recovery terminal? I dont even know how to activate eth0
[12:32] <debnub_> longwave. yep
[12:32] <thoffland> silentJ: Gkrellm or Torsmo
[12:32] <sunbug> I tried to install "gnome" with apt, but wwhen i try gdm or startx i get: X: cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting. Any ideas?
[12:32] <longwave> Morphboy: you should try dapper before you go back to breezy, *you* might like it better even if your friend doesn't ;)
[12:32] <Morphboy> roger
[12:32] <longwave> debnub_: so that works, but browsing from say firefox doesn't?
[12:32] <eefmraimundo> help
[12:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Morphboy: HArd to say you prefer one os over another if you have NOT tried the other one..
[12:32] <thoffland> eefmraimundo: what's up
[12:32] <debnub_> longwave. exactly
[12:33] <jake1> what command will tell me what driver my wireless card is using
[12:33] <longwave> debnub_: did you configure a proxy in firefox?
[12:33] <Morphboy> alright.. Ill try to find a new CD and turn it on fire (burn it)
[12:33] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: terminal lspci -v
[12:33] <ciscosurfer> is there a Garnome channel?
[12:33] <debnub_> longwave: please dont beat me up. firefox is runnig fine. :)
[12:33] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: It is a start..
[12:33] <anthony>  heya how do I change language in OOo to English (UK) ? I keep changing it, but it keeps flicking back..... any ideas anyone?
[12:34] <peteweez> ciscosufer: try "/list *Garnome* "
[12:34] <longwave> debnub_: uhm so there is no problem here? it has fixed itself? :)
[12:34] <Morphboy> Why is Ubuntu so hated among some people? I want an honest reply for myself to work from, not just a convincing attitude
[12:34] <Morphboy> *channel turns silent*
[12:34] <longwave> anthony: that works fine for me (i'm in the UK), do you have the openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb package installed?
[12:35] <thoffland> I dont think anyone in here hates it Morphboy... you might be asking the wrong crowd
[12:35] <nickspoon> Morphboy: depends what group of people you mean.
[12:35] <Juhaz> why don't you ask them? you probably won't find any ubuntu haters here
[12:35] <longwave> you aren't going to get people hating ubuntu in here, except the trolls who get banned quick enough
[12:35] <kaot> Morphboy: because given a large enough cross section of people, you'll find a group of people who hate anything you care to name.
[12:35] <anthony> longwave, not sure: how do I instal it?
[12:35] <debnub_> longwave: just one more thing.nslookup output said server:<IP_ADDRESS>#53. i think it means my router is acting as a domain server right? is that ok?
[12:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Morphboy: It has money behind it.. It has people using it it has people supporting it,  Not silent
[12:35] <Morphboy> roger all
[12:35] <kaot> Morphboy: for a better answer, ask a sociologist.  :\
[12:35] <Morphboy> xD
[12:35] <Xenguy> Morphboy: you've probably been listening to some bad-tempered Debian fanboys =)
[12:36] <StoneNote> Morphboy, why would you come to an ubuntu channel to find people who hated ubuntu? maybe try searching on "ubuntu+sucks" or "I hate ubuntu"
[12:36] <levander> Can I run ubuntu breezy off the LiveCD with 80MB's of RAM?
[12:36] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[12:36] <Morphboy> Ill be sticking to Ubuntu anyway.. easy interface for a winnub like me ^_^
[12:36] <levander> Jack_Sparrow: you've tried it?
[12:36] <Jack_Sparrow> levander: specs call for a minimum of 256
[12:37] <thoffland> OK, thanks for the help peoples! CYA
[12:37] <Morphboy> lataz, thanks for assistance. <3
[12:37] <longwave> anthony: go to system > administration > synaptic package manager and search for "openoffice en-gb"
[12:38] <stirman> anyone know if it's possible to install Ubuntu on an Intel based mac, without losing the data on the hd?
[12:38] <magus_x> what package should i download to be able to compile the kernel?
[12:38] <longwave> !kernel
[12:38] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:38] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x: start with build-essentials
[12:38] <longwave> debnub_: yes, most dsl routers act as a dns server, that's fine
[12:38] <z\> mangus_x:
[12:39] <z\> sudo apt-get update
[12:39] <z\> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:39] <z\> sudo apt-get install kernel-package
[12:39] <z\> sudo apt-get install gcc
[12:39] <z\> sudo apt-get install libncurses5
[12:39] <z\> sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[12:39] <z\> sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev
[12:39] <magus_x> Jack_Sparrow, : well, all i need is install a module
[12:39] <anthony> longwave, but of course!  yeah it's installed
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x:  ANy particular reason you feel you need to compile your own
[12:39] <z\> magus_x: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/CompilazioneKernel?highlight=%28compilazione%29%7C%28kernel%29
[12:39] <debnub_> longwave: gaim is not working! :)
[12:39] <debnub_> :)
[12:39] <debnub_> :(
[12:39] <magus_x> Jack_Sparrow, : well, all i need is install a module
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x: What module do you need
[12:40] <magus_x> cdemu-0.8
[12:40] <longwave> anthony: where are you trying to set the language?
[12:40] <magus_x> i need run cd images
[12:40] <erUSUL> !paste > z\
[12:40] <magus_x> but not iso, because i know how mount them, i need run .ccd
[12:40] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x: .iso's?
[12:40] <z\> erUSUL i'm sorry
[12:40] <longwave> anthony: for me it works if i open Writer then go to tools > options > language settings > languages > default language for documents > western
[12:41] <Pretoriano> z\ lol
[12:41] <magus_x> Jack_Sparrow, : sorry, bad english
[12:41] <[g2] > is there a way to not have the CDROM eject on dapper during the shutdown ?
[12:41] <silentj> I have a question... I want to change my home folder.. For example,.. now my home folder is /home/blue I want to change it to /home/red is there any way to do this? I tried to sudo change the file name but then nothing worked haha
[12:41] <magus_x> i need be able to mount ccd's
[12:41] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x: As long as you know what you want and why you need it.. great..
[12:41] <anthony> longwave, tools -> options -> language settings -> languages -> default languages for docs -> western -> english (GB)
[12:41] <magus_x> lol
[12:41] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x: Too many feel they Must have the latest and have no reason why.
[12:41] <z\> hi pretoriano.
[12:41] <ciscosurfer> Any Garnome experts here??
[12:41] <[g2] > Jack_Sparrow that's a funny nick :)
[12:41] <Pretoriano> hi, what's up?
[12:42] <anthony> longwave, ok -> type "colour" -> red line
[12:42] <dark0wl> hello
[12:42] <Jack_Sparrow> [g2] : I'm pleased to put a smile on your face..
[12:42] <StoneNote> [g2] , Pirates of the Carribean
[12:42] <magus_x> well, i need mount a specific ccd image, any way how with the actual kernel? or i need download the kernel source?
[12:42] <dark0wl> can anyone tell read me the command or configuring keyboard ?
[12:42] <anthony> longwave, tools -> options -> ... -> it's back on English (USA)
[12:42] <ciscosurfer> No Garnome experts???
[12:43] <peteweez> dark0wl: depends on your window manager.
 im using fluxbox
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x:  Just one image or different images of the same extension.?
[12:43] <magus_x> just one
[12:43] <dark0wl> and i dont know how to configure my keyboard
[12:43] <longwave> anthony: hrm actually mine is set to English (UK), i just changed it and saved and reopened and it went back to English (USA), it must take the default from elsewhere... hold on
[12:43] <peteweez> dark0wm: do you want to set keyboard shortcuts, like ctrl+alt+del or something?
[12:43] <Larynx> kebabfish
[12:43] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x: Why not convert that one image to an iso.?
[12:43] <dark0wl> peteweez no
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x: avoid the whole compile thing
[12:44] <magus_x> but with which program?
[12:44] <magus_x> Jack_Sparrow, : yeah, i want avoid, but i dont know how i can do
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> magus_x: Can you not burn a .ccd
[12:44] <peteweez> dark0wl: I don't know then...I configured mine when I configured X.
[12:44] <jake1> jack-sparrow the network settings does not show what driver the wireless card is using
[12:44] <magus_x> k3b dont opens it
[12:44] <jake1> i want to know the name of the driver
[12:44] <ciscosurfer> Last shot...Anybody here use Garnome?
[12:44] <magus_x> ciscosurfer, : Garnome or gnome?
[12:45] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: did it show up in lspci ?
 do you use gnome ?
[12:45] <ciscosurfer> magus_x: Garnome
[12:45] <longwave> anthony: is your keyboard set to UK in system > preferences > keyboards, and English (UK) selected in system > administration > language support?
[12:45] <jake1> no it just gave me the driver of my PCMCIA slot\
[12:45] <mdkaneda> hey, ive been battling w/ getting Samba configured correctly for days, and no luck. my smb.conf is probably really screwed up by now, What im looking to do is just get a working smb.conf w/ ubuntu, preferably no password necessary for a WinXP machine to logon, can someone take a look at my smb.conf and help me out?
[12:45] <anthony> longwave, should be. one sec
[12:45] <jake1> not the card in it
[12:45] <jake1> i tried iwconfig
[12:45] <silentj> Anyone? I want to change my home folder.. For example,.. now my home folder is /home/blue I want to change it to /home/red is there any way to do this?
[12:45] <abo> any one knows if freenet is packaged for ubuntu, or should I instal it as they say on its site?
[12:45] <jake1> and under eth2 it says HermesI
[12:45] <jake1> but i dnt think that is the driver
[12:45] <Pulshion> does anyone know how to select certain files in nautilus and make those files play using rhytmbox, i used to just highlight and add to playlist in wmp
[12:45] <Warbo> Is http://www.ubuntuforums.org down? It isn't loading for me, but it also isn't displaying a 404 page
[12:46] <unio> silentj: create a new account; i don't think you can rename accounts
[12:46] <StoneNote> magus_x, A new distribution of GNOME, based on the GAR ports system by Nick Moffitt. For testing GNOME 2.0 without breaking current GNOME packages
[12:46] <silentj> unio really?  You could try drag 'n' drop (I don't use Rythmbox much so I am no sure)
[12:47] <rob_p> silentj, man usermod
[12:47] <Pulshion> Warbo -- whats the best music player?
[12:47] <Warbo> !best
[12:47] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[12:47] <Jack_Sparrow> jake1: !best
[12:47] <silentj> VLA player @@!
[12:47] <silentj> VLA is gangsta
[12:47] <Warbo> Pulshion: Personally I use Listen, Amarok and XMMS
[12:47] <dark0wl> can anyone tell read me the command or configuring keyboard ?
[12:47] <dark0wl> can anyone tell read me the command or configuring keyboard ?
[12:47] <silentj> VLA works for everything
[12:47] <eternaljoy> how can I completely delete my system of any websites visited?  besides "Clear Private Data" in Firefox and besides using Root Kit Hunter. any other ways to totally CLEAN computer?
[12:48] <longwave> anthony: hrm i don't know what those downloads are, it may fix your problem, but i have found a mention of similar bug on the forums, i am searching launchpad to see if anyone has reported it there
[12:48] <mutk> The best music player I have is my CD pl;ayer.
[12:48] <Warbo> CDs, eww
[12:48] <mr3vil> hi @ll. is there a tool to reduce the processor-speed!?
[12:48] <dark0wl> can anyone tell read me the command or configuring keyboard ?
[12:48] <anthony> longwave, I found a page on that too - the guys there ended up renaming the language file to force OOo to take that as English (USA)!
[12:48] <Pulshion> Warbo -- k thanx, drag and drop worked, i just had my blonde moments haha
[12:49] <abo> silentj, unio, setting the $HOME env variable does change the home directory
[12:49] <dark0wl> can anyone tell me the command or configuring keyboard ?
[12:49] <tuxtux_> notte
[12:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat dark0wl
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeat dark0wl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat > dark0wl
[12:49] <dark0wl> cant you just open your menu editr an take a look ?
[12:50] <mdkaneda> how about this, is there atleast a way to revert back to the original smb.conf so i can start over, and try not changing anything? hehe, i tried "completely" removing the samba package and reinstalling, but that left my smb.conf alone
[12:50] <longwave> anthony: yeah, that doesn't sound like a great solution, but i can't find any other fix right now :(
[12:50] <anthony> longwave, no it didn't work :(
[12:50] <longwave> anthony: this is reported in launchpad: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/35936
[12:50] <erUSUL> mdkaneda: --purge will do the trick
[12:50] <mdkaneda> erUSUL: thanx, i'll try giving this another hack
[12:51] <longwave> anthony: no fix for it as yet though, and openoffice.org claims it's not their problem, it's ubuntu's
[12:51] <dark0wl> Can someone open the menu editor and tell me the command used for keyboard config ?
[12:51] <dark0wl> is it too hard ?
[12:51] <delta___> Hey guys! I am looking for a gnome panel applet that displays gauges for "free disk", "free mem", "cpu load" and "net load" - preferably looking like a car dashboard's needle that goes from 0% to 100%. Does anyone know of such an application?
[12:51] <anthony> longwave, pfft yeah right: I remember something like this happening under windows too....
[12:51] <silentj> What is the favorite Terminal Flavor in the room? I use GnomeTerm only because it came with Ubin2 but I want to try something new, anyone got any suggestions?
[12:52] <Warbo> NOTE: You can drag menu entries onto the panel to get at their command name. That beats loading Alacarte, which takes AGES
[12:52] <WizCraker> how do I set the default gateway through cli?
[12:52] <delta___> dark0wl: gnome-keyboard-properties
[12:52] <dark0wl> thank you very much !
[12:52] <delta___> dark0wl: np
[12:53] <silentj> I mean is there really any difference in terminals?
[12:53] <delta___> silentj: I am using gnome-terminal (again, after a trip through all alternatives I could find)
[12:53] <StoneNote> silentj, I use gnome-terminal & konsole. I no no preference between the two
[12:53] <StoneNote> I have no^
[12:53] <silentj> delta__ there is no real difference between them?
[12:53] <anthony> longwave, no worries: I'll rename the language pack instead :P thanks for your help dude
[12:53] <delta___> silentj: The main differences lie with a) Desktop integration and b) speed
[12:53] <Warbo> silentj: I like gnome terminal. Many people might say xterm because it is small, but gnome-terminal is apparently (on GNOME site) quicker than xterm
[12:54] <zenit> silentj: I usually use xterm, becase that one is usually installed by default.
[12:54] <longwave> anthony: yeah it's a dirty fix but openoffice is so convoluted there is probably no easy answer, i'm afraid :(
[12:54] <zenit> on different systems that is
[12:54] <anthony> exit
[12:54] <silentj> senit yea
[12:55] <silentj> I tried putty i think it was pretty cool, and ther e was one that if you hit F12 it dropped down from the top of your screen dont remember what it was called tho
[12:55] <silentj> Anyone know when XGL will be useable to human beings?
[12:55] <Warbo> The main difference in terminals is their speed. For example "dmesg" would output pretty much instantly in a console, but can take ages for a graphical terminal to scroll through it as it outputs
[12:55] <nrdb> Hi I am trying to get my sound config. working, the hardware does work. "lsof" doesn't report anyone has opened /dev/dsp or /dev/snd can anyone help?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> silentj: try asking in #ubuntu-xgl they would know more
[12:56] <anthony> another problem (!): my connection is periodically reducing to nothing and then booting back  again.  in windows it just went and then had to reboot the router: there was nothing like this. any ideas?
[12:56] <Warbo> silentj: Erm.. When someone makes a GUI for it? (which would be a stupid idea)
[12:56] <silentj> gnomefreak not that interested haha
[12:56] <Warbo> XGL is an X server
[12:56] <delta___> nrdb: What exactly goes wrong?
[12:56] <silentj> Warbo, when someone makes an install that works
[12:56] <silentj> haha
[12:56] <silentj> GUI would be nice
[12:56] <Warbo> packages would be better
[12:56] <silentj> or something simple like.. apt-get install XGL
[12:57] <silentj> or something
[12:57] <silentj> would be cool
[12:57] <Yurtle> how can i force ntpdate to run ?
[12:57] <silentj> I cant get the damn thing to run for the life of me
[12:57] <nrdb> delta___: nothing works the sound, the gnome sound applet says "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[12:57] <livingdaylight> got flumuxed by enlightenment
[12:57] <silentj> which sucks cuz its cxool as hell
[12:57] <delta___> Yurtle: something like "sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart", I'd suppose
[12:57] <livingdaylight> couldn't find the application menu
[12:57] <silentj> Warbo, same here
[12:57] <gnomefreak> silentj: xgl is in dappers repos and as i said take all xgl topics to #ubuntu-xgl please
[12:57] <silentj> 3 times
[12:57] <liran1> for some reason swap stopped operating... its defined in /etc/fstab but swapon doesnt initialize it
[12:57] <Warbo> silentj: I am in AiGLX right now, but running GNOME+E16
[12:57] <silentj> gnomefreak, calm down dude.
[12:58] <longwave> Yurtle: something like "sudo ntpdate time.nist.gov" or another time server of your choice
[12:58] <Bassy> i have a noobe (linux) question, i have a file name with a space in the name, and i can't delete or move it, what's the command if your file name has a space in it (sorry for the noobe question)
[12:58] <mjr> Bassy, "file name"
[12:58] <Yurtle> strange i dont know why its not autorunning on bott.
[12:58] <Yurtle> uh boot
[12:58] <delta___> Bassy: Use "\ " to escape the space
[12:58] <mjr> or what delta said
[12:58] <gnomefreak> silentj: than go to #ubuntu-xgl or #ubuntu-offtopic to talk about xgl
[12:58] <Bassy> thanx guys...
[12:58] <nrdb> Bassy: quote the name e.g >ls "my name"
[12:58] <Yurtle> 29 Aug 16:58:41 ntpdate[13988] : no server suitable for synchronization found
[12:58] <Yurtle> 3
[12:58] <liran1> when i run 'swapon -a' i get 'swapon: /dev/sda4: Invalid argument'
[12:59] <silentj> You know, its like so touchy in here sometimes. Where is the humanity?! Where is the love?! comeon people if someone asks a question, instead of being helpful you take the time to say RTFM or some other useless thing that is no help to anyone
[12:59] <silentj> and XGL is on topic in my opinion
[12:59] <silentj> so :P
[12:59] <waspius> hi...i found this really cool site http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en which has allot of useful apps etc.i am trying to download some things though but nothing is happening..most of the files exist also in a debian extention..can i find them some other way?
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> silentj: That is ONLY your opinion
[01:00] <gnomefreak> silentj: you are muted for 10 mins
[01:00] <Yurtle> oh well wierd
[01:00] <Yurtle> bbl
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[01:00] <redcard> Fooding :P
[01:01] <Warbo> Yay forums come up now. I don't know what went wrong
[01:01] <longwave> liran1: is /dev/sda4 your swap device? what is in your /etc/fstab?
[01:02] <dr_willis> waspius,  its proberly worth checking the package manager to see if those apps are allready in the repos.  much better idea to install with synaptic.
[01:02] <anthony> my connection is periodically reducing to nothing and then booting back  again.  in windows it just went and then had to reboot the router: there was nothing like this. any ideas?
[01:02] <liran1> longwave: yeah, from fdisk -l its "/dev/sda4            6953        7080     1028160   82  Linux swap / Solaris" and from fstab its "/dev/sda4       none            swap    sw              0       0"
[01:02] <waspius> dr_willis: i use adept and i have not found anything there..
[01:02] <longwave> liran1: did you run mkswap on that partition since it was created?
[01:02] <liran1> longwave: i noticed im getting "Unable to find swap-space signature" in dmesg
[01:03] <don_jr> Hello, I'm looking for a good video player for ubuntu, wmv, wma, divx, can anyone recomend one that works well?
[01:03] <longwave> liran1: if it was working before, sounds like maybe the swap got corrupted somehow? mkswap again may fix it
[01:03] <_lupine> liran1: you want mkswap#
[01:03] <_lupine> then swapon
[01:03] <liran1> swapon itself doesnt work
[01:04] <nrdb> Hi I am trying to get my sound config. working, the hardware does work. "lsof" doesn't report anyone has opened /dev/dsp or /dev/snd,  the gnome sound applet says "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.", can someone help please ?
[01:04] <liran1> ok i was thinking id have to do that
[01:04] <liran1> so mkswap /dev/sda4
[01:04] <_lupine> you'll have to sudo, but yes
[01:04] <jrib> don_jr: mplayer is my favorite, xine and vlc are good too (but vlc won't play nice with wmv9 without some extra work)
[01:04] <longwave> liran1: yes, similar to a filesystem, you have to mkswap a swap partition before you can use it
[01:04] <lamego> don_jr, http://help.ubuntu.com Desktop Guider -> 3 Common Tasks -> Video
[01:05] <liran1> right, lets see how it goes
[01:05] <grimboy> Hey, I'm adding a new second graphics card in xorg.conf (Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA 2064W [Millennium] ) what should I enter for driver?
[01:05] <don_jr> mplayer, alright, thank you
[01:05] <dr_willis> waspius,  you may need to include the other reposoitories.  see !easysource
[01:05] <_lupine> grimboy: start with vesa
[01:05] <D0wn> When I try to transfer music to my iPod with GTKPod, I keep getting this message Path not found: '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/Music/F19'.
[01:05] <D0wn> Anyone got some advice?
[01:05] <nrdb> grimboy: I have something simular it uses the 'mga' driver
[01:05] <jrib> don_jr: just be sure to install w32codecs along with mplayer
[01:05] <jrib> !w32codecs > don_jr
[01:05] <liran1> great, its initializing fine now.
[01:05] <don_jr> jrib will do
[01:06] <waspius> !easysource
[01:06] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:06] <grimboy> _lupine, Thanks! I'll try that for the time being. nrdb, I'll try that if vesa works, thanks
[01:08] <buccaneer> hello all, I have a quick question about ubuntu... does ubuntu have frequency scaling capabilities ... for say a laptop?
[01:08] <jrib> buccaneer: yes
[01:09] <nrdb> can you frequency scale any cpu or does it need special hardware?
[01:09] <longwave> buccaneer: yep, my laptop is throttled to 800mhz right now because it isn't doing much except chatting
[01:09] <buccaneer> k, I was curious cause I am thinking about installing it on my laptop but the last thing I want is for the laptop to run hot or for their to be a drain on power because it s always running at the same speed
[01:09] <jrib> buccaneer: mine switches between 1.2 and 1.6 as needed
[01:09] <buccaneer> longwave, did you have to manually set it, or does ubuntu do it for you/
[01:10] <longwave> buccaneer: ubuntu does it automatically, there is a monitor you can add to a gnome panel to show you what speed it's currently at
[01:10] <waspius> dr_willis: thanx
[01:10] !lilo:*! Hi all. Note: we've added a couple of new prefixes recently.... nat/* for corporate gateway users (they'll tend to be fairly low on abuse).... and conference/* for conference gateways
[01:10] <longwave> nrdb: i believe you need speedstep or powernow! or similar support in your hardware
[01:11] <buccaneer> ok, I usually just do a cat on /proc/cpuinfo
[01:11] <longwave> buccaneer: that works too :)
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> buccaneer: Reports are that battery life is still better in windows...Implying scaling is better with XP
[01:11] <Gecko> Hey, can anyone tell me how to generate ssl certificates for virtual hosts on apache?
[01:11] <longwave> Gecko: you can't run ssl on vhosts because of the way secure HTTP works
[01:11] <longwave> Gecko: you need one IP address per SSL host, no way around it
[01:11] <MrFeetio> how do i go about makeing a gdm login?
[01:12] <Backeman> Hi! Is there a way to fetch data that were on the harddrive before a reformat? I had the same fs before as I have no (ext3).
[01:12] <buccaneer> Jack_Sparrow,well microsoft has access to proprietory drivers cause they can pay for it .. so it is expected
[01:12] <Gecko> longwave: when I examine the host that I now administer, each of the vertual host have their own .pem file... So is what you say true?
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> buccaneer: Agreed..
[01:12] <silentj> wow everyone, look at gnomefreaks super mute powers! Gnomefreak your 1337-ness is overwhelming me. Im gonna have to change me undies soon!
[01:12] <silentj> what a waste of time
[01:13] <longwave> Gecko: well, apache can listen on multiple IPs, so you can do vhosts that way, but you can't do it from just a single IP
[01:13] <buccaneer> I usually run freebsd on my lappy ...freebsd has some power adaptive capabilities but somehow I don't feel it is up to par with that offered through ubuntu
[01:13] <StoneNote> silentj, temper tantrums are not helpful
[01:13] <longwave> bye silentj
[01:13] <computerex> Hey guys. I finnaly got it!
[01:13] <buccaneer> I was sampling the live cd and noticed that m machine was running a lot cooler
[01:13] <computerex> finally*
[01:13] <silentj> yea but come on
[01:13] <StoneNote> computerex, congrats
[01:13] <silentj> what was the reason for that?
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> buccaneer: The difference is relatively minor...  JUst wanted to admit that XP does it a little better, but not worth using XP for that additional few minutes of battery life
[01:13] <computerex> Yep. well, sort of...
[01:13] <silentj> Just trying to show how cool he is or what?
[01:13] <computerex> I got stuck on the prompt for password...
[01:13] <leagris> bonsoir
[01:14] <debnub> How can i check my inetd status? and to save changes to it?
[01:14] <nrdb> Hi I am trying to get my sound config. working, the hardware does work. "lsof" doesn't report anyone has opened /dev/dsp or /dev/snd,  the gnome sound applet says "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.", can someone help please ?
[01:14] <Gecko> longwave: each vhost have their own SSLCertificateFile option...
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> buccaneer: My HP lappy runs much cooler as well
[01:14] <mutk> silentj, You got it exactly right..
[01:14] <computerex> Whats soppose to be my username and password? I know I entered the password, but there was nothing about username...
[01:14] <computerex> I am new to LINUX...
[01:14] <longwave> Gecko: read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/https - the last paragraph in the limitations section
[01:14] <jrib> computerex: what are you trying to do?  What prompt?
[01:14] <debnub> computerex: run console and write whoami
[01:14] <computerex> When your installition is done
[01:15] <longwave> computerex: you were asked for your name during installation, that is your username?
[01:15] <computerex> it asks you for the password right? On a really cool yellow screen
[01:15] <nrdb> computerex: it asks for name and password!
[01:15] <computerex> Username and password
[01:15] <computerex> It does a reboot
[01:15] <Gecko> longwave: yes, I understand that. So I can just copy one of the certificates for this particular ssl host?
[01:15] <computerex> Then asks you for a password and a username
[01:15] <spiderworm> !nvc
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <spiderworm> !vnc
[01:15] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[01:15] <longwave> Gecko: yes, as long as the domain name matches the SSL certificate of course, you should just be able to specify it in the apache config
[01:16] <Gecko> longwave: well, the domain name doesn't match, that's why I wanted to generate a new one
[01:16] <longwave> Gecko: you may need a chain certificate or something as well depending on how the original vhost was configured, if you have the same apache config file though it should work fine
[01:16] <computerex> I installed ubunto today, it worked smoothly, until the whole install was complete
[01:16] <longwave> Gecko: to get a valid one that is accepted by web browsers, you have to pay
[01:16] <computerex> It rebooted the computer, everything went smooth
[01:16] <computerex> But I didn't know the username or password  ( Corrected Spelling )
[01:16] <computerex> But I didnt know the username or password
[01:16] <squelly> Sorry to interrupt, first time on IRC... do I just ask a question, or is there a protocol?
[01:16] <Psykus> anyone know how I would keep track of max uptime? I know I can use the 'uptime' command to get the current uptime
[01:16] <Gecko> longwave: I just want one that identifies itself as the host that is accessed
[01:16] <comtech> can anyone tell me how to add clonecd .img file compatibility to k3b? or if it's even possible
[01:16] <longwave> Gecko: or you can generate your own CA and generate a cert from that, but it will give a warning in any web browser where the CA cert is not installed
[01:17] <mjr> squelly, just ask
[01:17] <jrib> computerex: it should have asked for a username and a password if you did a regular install.  If you can't remember the username, you can reboot and go to recovery mode, then type 'getent passwd 1000' to see the info for your first user
[01:17] <Gecko> longwave: if I wanted to do that, how would I do it?
[01:17] <Ricesteam> Anyone know whats the difference between cgwd and gnome-compiz?
[01:17] <jrib> computerex: well that will get you the username at least, I think you said you knew the password right?
[01:17] <Backeman> last Backeman
[01:17] <computerex> Yes
[01:18] <longwave> Gecko: there is a quick method here: http://www.rpatrick.com/tech/makecert/
[01:18] <computerex> Oh well, will have to reinstall anywa
[01:18] <squelly> Just did my first install. THe live CD got out to the internet fine, after install, I only get Server Not Found.
[01:18] <longwave> Gecko: i am sure there is more info about this in the apache documentation
[01:18] <jrib> computerex: reinstall why?  Just use recovery mode from the grub menu
[01:18] <computerex> this is XP. Had to reinstall everything. wow. Talk about playing with OSs
[01:18] <computerex> I didn't know anything about this, so I reinstalled XP  ( Corrected Spelling )
[01:18] <computerex> I didnt know anything about this, so I reinstalled XP
[01:18] <cmatheso1> does anyone know how to force java to not use the GNOME look and feel? it doesn't work right w/ my gtk-engine
[01:18] <longwave> Gecko: also try http://www.modssl.org/docs/2.8/ssl_faq.html#cert-real
[01:18] <Fred21> Hello
[01:19] <computerex> BTW, when first installing ubuntu, do I install in OEM mode or text mode?
[01:19] <Fred21> i've this problem
[01:19] <don_jr> I have no sound, I have an integrated sound board, how can I correct this?
[01:19] <longwave> computerex: are you installing from the alternate cd? you want text mode in that case
[01:19] <Fred21> i've the problem about the update on 21th august
[01:19] <computerex> Yes. Alternative file
[01:19] <MrFeetio> how do i make a login screen?
[01:19] <Fred21> i followed the instruction with sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
[01:20] <Backeman> Hi! Is there a way to fetch data that were on the harddrive before a reformat? I had the same fs before as I have no (ext3).
[01:20] <Fred21> but i never can't be able to log me
[01:20] <Abst> Hey
[01:20] <Abst> I just fully switched to Ubuntu! Windows is gone!
[01:20] <jrib> Fred21: http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue seen this?
[01:20] <Fred21> help me if possible
[01:20] <longwave> Fred21: http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue
[01:20] <Fred21> longwave: i followed the instructions but it can't work
[01:20] <longwave> congratulations Abst!
[01:20] <Abst> Thanks
[01:20] <Fred21> longwave: i use be.archive.ubuntu.com and belgacom as mirrors
[01:21] <Abst> I'm really liking it. And I think Linux is simpler than windows
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Backeman: Not without special tools
[01:21] <don_jr> Anyone know how to get my sound to work?
[01:21] <computerex> Yep. I am getting this one step at a time. Before, I couldnt even run the setup. Now, the whole install went perfect, except I got stuck on the prompt for password. Hopefully, this time it will get me all the way through. Thanks for the help. Might be back ;)
[01:21] <Abst> Apart from install stuff, haven't got the hand of that yet
[01:21] <VVraith> is there any list for recommended hardware or such?  I am looking for a supported Sata Raid controller that I could use with ubuntu
[01:21] <gre1> is there a way to check for open ports in my firewall?
[01:21] <Abst> Erm
[01:21] <Abst> Lemme find that website
[01:21] <UPC> I am getting errors installing with Synaptic
[01:21] <VVraith> gre1, use a port scanner
[01:21] <Backeman> Jack_Sparrow: I saw a post on ubuntuforums about testdisk, Im trying that now. Do you have another one in mind? Is it hard?
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> don_jr: WHat onboard sound do you have?
[01:21] <longwave> Fred21: i thought all the mirrors were updated by now. you could try using the US or GB mirrors for now, then switch back after you fix that package
[01:21] <gre1> what a good port scanner?
[01:21] <UPC> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly
[01:21] <UPC> A package failed to install. Trying to recover:
[01:22] <Backeman> gre1: nmap
[01:22] <don_jr> Jack_Sparrow how can I find that out?
[01:22] <Abst> http://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2
[01:22] <Abst> Port scanner
[01:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Backeman: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[01:22] <Abst> I think
[01:22] <UPC> How can I fix that?
[01:22] <don_jr> UPC sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:22] <Fred21> longwave: i must use gb or us mirrors? are there updated?
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> don_jr: Look in your manual, look up your motherboad model online..
[01:23] <VVraith> backeman, there is another famous port scanner, can you think of it?
[01:23] <longwave> Fred21: i thought every mirror was updated by now, but i know the GB and US mirrors are definitely updated, so try those for now
[01:23] <VVraith> i'm drawing a brain fart
[01:23] <ezio> Boa noite!
[01:23] <longwave> VVraith: nessus?
[01:23] <jrib> VVraith: nmap?
[01:23] <Fred21> longwave: i use be.archive.ubuntu.com, there is an update for xserve
[01:24] <ezio> Algum do Brasil?
[01:24] <jrib> !br
[01:24] <Fred21> but when i reboot the computer, i can't be able to log me
[01:24] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:24] <longwave> Fred21: ok, have you done "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[01:24] <VVraith> no, neither of those
[01:24] <NullVector> quick simple question, whats a good program to rip audio cd's with? preferably in ogg with a respectable player?
[01:24] <Fred21> longwave: before apt-get install xserver-xorg-core ofcourse ;-)
[01:24] <Backeman> VVraith: Uhh, nope. I have just used nmap the few times I have used a portscanner...
[01:24] <VVraith> man, now I am gonna be all preoccupied till I think of it
[01:25] <longwave> nmap, shields up and nessus are the only ones i can think of right now :)
[01:25] <VVraith> oh, nm, I'm thinking of Ethereal, but that is a packet sniffer, sorry
[01:25] <mikeconcepts> how do I join an xgl channel from xchat, have an xgl related question
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> shieldsup is what I use
[01:25] <VVraith> ok, how can I find a supported sata raid controller that works with ubuntu?
[01:25] <Fred21> longwave: i made sudo apt-get update before apt-get install xserver-xorg-core ;-)
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> gibson research
[01:25] <longwave> mikeconcepts: /join #ubuntu-xgl
[01:25] <Abst> http://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2
[01:25] <squelly> Can anyone help me get get my network conection working?
[01:25] <Abst> Shields up
[01:26] <mikeconcepts> squelly: thx
[01:26] <longwave> Fred21: so it still does not work after the latest update?
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid > VVraith
[01:26] <Fred21> longwave: it doesn't work after update
[01:26] <NullVector> can amaroK rip cd's and convert to ogg?
[01:27] <VVraith> ty jack
[01:28] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:28] <longwave> Fred21: do you know which version of the package you have now? if you have xserver-xorg-core 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 installed, that is the newest working version...
[01:28] <don_jr> Jack_Sparrow from what I can find it's a Camino2 integrated sound card
[01:29] <Fred21> longwave: what's the command to know it?
[01:29] <longwave> Fred21: "dpkg -s xserver-xorg-core"
[01:30] <Abst> Is there any listing of apt-get stuff sorted by category (e.g. games, code)?
[01:30] <Fred21> longwave: can you see if a server is update? i use ftp://ubuntu.mirrors.skynet.be
[01:31] <neeophyte> I can play mp3 file on desktop running ubuntu (opens Totem) but can't get that file to play from xChat... can someone help?
[01:31] <sysdoc> Backeman, The two basic tools to help you would be dump2s and debug2fs.
[01:31] <jrib> Abst: synaptic lists them by category, packages.ubuntu.com if you want web
[01:31] <Abst> Synaptic is ALL apt-get?
[01:31] <Fred21> longwave: i see the last update are 29august on mirror of skynet
[01:31] <vge> Abst: try synaptic, it lists paggages by category
[01:31] <UPC> don_jr::: I got some bus error.
[01:32] <longwave> Fred21: yes, that has the latest deb
[01:32] <longwave> Fred21: ftp://ubuntu.mirrors.skynet.be/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb
[01:32] <UPC> don_jr: in the terminal
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> upc he is gone
[01:33] <brendonjt> Kia ora  one and all
[01:33] <squelly> Does a typical fresh install have web access?
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> fyi that looks like INtel chipset... ac97
[01:33] <beemonk> What app would read .pls files ? (playlists from shoutcast)
[01:33] <longwave> Fred21: is it the same error that is on http://www.ubuntu.com/FixForUpgradeIssue ?
[01:33] <Fred21> longwave: yes
[01:33] <Jack_Sparrow> squelly: yes unless wireless problems
[01:33] <brendonjt> squelly:  umm yip  v
[01:34] <UPC> nuts
[01:34] <longwave> squelly: if you have a wired network, yes. wireless may need some configuring
[01:34] <Fred21> longwave: is be.archive.ubuntu.com updated too?
[01:34] <UPC> anyone else have any ideas?
[01:34] <longwave> Fred21: yes
[01:34] <squelly> Jack_Sparrow: I'm using a wired nic, the live CD worked fine, the install doesnt get out.
[01:35] <Fred21> longwave: the update doesn't work here :-(
[01:35] <neeophyte> anyone?
[01:35] <Fred21> longwave: i've the update and reboot with ctrl+alt+del
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> squelly: and no other changes... odd...
[01:35] <beemonk> :/
[01:35] <Fred21> longwave: the error msg will be display after the reboot
[01:35] <brendonjt> beemonk: umm not sure but i think  and app that can read .pls (amarok, xmms, xine)
[01:36] <Fred21> !mp3
[01:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:36] <squelly> Jack_SParrow: right, no other changes. just clicked install from the working live CD.
[01:36] <Fred21> !aac
[01:36] <beemonk> ah Rythmbox can, sorry
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> UPC: what are you trying to install
[01:36] <beemonk> thanks brendonjt
[01:36] <brendonjt> beemonk: no worries
[01:37] <NullVector> any suggestions on what program can rip adudio cd's and convert to ogg at the same time?
[01:37] <silentj> gnomebaker?
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> NullVector: check out grip
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !grip
[01:37] <ubotu> grip is a ripping player and has a minor bug which can be solved by doing this "sudo ln -s /dev/hdX /dev/cdromN" where X is your hard drive and N a number
[01:38] <Fred21> longwave: why doesn't work after the update?
[01:38] <jrib> NullVector: sound juicer as well
[01:38] <longwave> squelly: is there only one network card in that computer? what does system > administration > networking say?
[01:38] <wsg> Anyone know are there any issues on a USB based system, no PS/2 Keyborad or Mouse support
[01:38] <Jack_Sparrow> squelly: I'm still trying to think as to what the problem may be.
[01:38] <longwave> Fred21: sorry,  i don't know. i thought all the problems were fixed with the newest update, but maybe not...
[01:38] <silentj> "I have a question, If I wanted to save my installed files and stuff as like a backup so I can put all my settings and apps onto a diffedrent computer or incase of a hard drive crash I could have a back up, is there a way to do that???
[01:39] <longwave> !backup
[01:39] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[01:39] <Abst> When I try to use Xmms it says my soundcard is in use/not configured. When I use Totem it plays fine, aswell as the ubuntu welcome music
[01:39] <Fred21> longwave: if i remove the package (xserver-xorg-core) and reinstall it again, i will be mut to update it after?
[01:39] <squelly> longwave: right, only one network card. IN the connections it says 'eth0 The interface eth0 is active"
[01:39] <jrib> Abst: go to xmms' preferences and tell it to use alsa
[01:39] <Abst> Okay
[01:39] <longwave> Fred21: you can try that, but i am not sure it will make any difference
[01:39] <Abst> Ill try that
[01:40] <brendonjt> adst: i have found xmms not very stable i use amarok  for my media it is great
[01:40] <gabriel_> epa
[01:40] <gabriel_> quienes son
[01:40] <gabriel_> soy venezolano
[01:40] <Abst> brendonjt: I'll download and try that too, thanks
[01:40] <Fred21> longwave: i will try, i will be back to say informations.. thank you very much
[01:40] <Fred21> see you..
[01:40] <longwave> squelly: what is on the other end of the ethernet cable? a cable/dsl home router or something else?
[01:40] <ubuntu> hi, sorry, complete newb here, could anyone tell me if it's possible to read a windows xp formatted hard drive using an ubuntu live cd
[01:40] <brendonjt> adst: amarok uses the xine engine
[01:40] <squelly> longwave: verizon FIOS router.
[01:40] <dr_willis> ubuntu yes.
[01:40] <fallingdutch> wohoooooo, got ubuntu running on en ecrypted hd :)
[01:41] <wsg> ubuntu mount the drive
[01:41] <NullVector> jack_Sparrow: Grip bug fix, how do I find my hd number? my File system is labeled on the SATA Drive
[01:41] <ubuntu> dr willis how? i don't know where to go from file system
[01:41] <silentj> Is there a way to download the whole Ubuntu Wikki? So I can like look for whaver I want without being online??
[01:41] <steph291> hi Guys !
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> squelly: sudo ifdown eth0" then "sudo ifup eth0" will renew the IP address for eth0
[01:41] <brendonjt> fallingdutch:  what you mean on a encrypted hdd
[01:41] <ubuntu> i'm trying to browse the hard drive like i would in windows explorer. how do i mount?
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> NullVector: it should be cdrom  Zero
[01:42] <dr_willis> ubuntu http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[01:42] <steph291> I have a question :
[01:42] <Warbo> ubuntu: It should appear as a desktop icon. If not try Places>Computer
[01:42] <NullVector> that n, i need X
[01:42] <longwave> squelly: okay, i don't know much about fios. try what Jack_Sparrow said, then type "ifconfig" at a terminal and put the output in a pastebin for us to see
[01:42] <fallingdutch> brendonjt, encrypted with sha256, using cryptsetup luks  dm-crypt
[01:42] <silentj> ubuntu you can sure
[01:42] <silentj> you just have to mount it
[01:42] <silentj> but if its ntfs you cant write to it which sucks ass
[01:42] <Jamminpotato> if i compile firefox for my own use will it make it faster or does that only work for the kernel?
[01:43] <steph291> does ubuntu : support dual-display ?
[01:43] <Warbo> Jamminpotato: Try swiftfox. They apparently compile it for speed
[01:43] <dr_willis> Jamminpotato,  i doubt if its worth the effort.
[01:43] <longwave> Jamminpotato: you almost definitely won't notice any difference in speed
[01:43] <fallingdutch> steph291, yes
[01:43] <wheelswitch> is there any one around who uses network manager?
[01:43] <brendonjt> fallingdutch:  so you encrypted your hdd  when you installed ubuntu  is it on a desktop or lappy
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> NullVector: system admin disks
[01:43] <ubuntu> thanks silentj, i'll google for how to mount a drive in linux
[01:43] <dr_willis> steph291,  you can set up 2 displays. but theres no auto-set-up-tools for it. (that i know of)
[01:43] <steph291> FallingDutch : automatic ?
[01:43] <squelly> longwave , Jack_Sparrow: OK, I'll try now. dunno what a pastebin is, tho' sorry.
[01:43] <longwave> !paste
[01:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:43] <Jamminpotato> thanks Warbo
[01:43] <fallingdutch> brendonjt, yes, installed the ubuntu onto the encrypted hd, its a lappy
[01:43] <StoneNote> Jamminpotato, you can make firefox a bit faster by doing this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_load_Web_site_faster_in_Mozilla_Firefox
[01:43] <silentj> ubuntu sudo mount /media/whatever
[01:43] <fallingdutch> steph291, in my case by using the nvidia driver, which supports it
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks longwave
[01:43] <steph291> thanks
[01:43] <ladydoor> Jamminpotato: plus there's swiftfox
[01:43] <Warbo> ubuntu: http://tldp.org is useful. But Ubuntu help is on http://help.ubuntu.com/community
[01:44] <wickers> How can I get OOo to remember my language settings?
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !pastebin
[01:44] <dbe> How can I figure out if I use a Intel Centrino or Intel Centurion processor, cat /proc/cpuinfo just says: model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz
[01:44] <VVraith> jack_sparrow:  the article seems to be for ppl doing raid0 and I can't figure out if they are doing fresh installs or are adding the raid0 after the initial install.  I want to do raid1 as a fresh install.
[01:44] <Jamminpotato> StoneNote, i did those tweaks back in like 0.8
[01:44] <dr_willis> i thought Centrino was the  marketing name for the cpu+chipset
[01:44] <Juhaz> VVraith, "centrino" or "centurion" isn't a processor
[01:44] <longwave> dr_willis: that's right
[01:44] <steph291> is there a howto to set my dual-display ?
[01:44] <wheelswitch> any one who uses network manager, what is your start up command (you can find it in system>preferences>sessions>startup programs)
[01:44] <tomcatt> !ubotu wireless
[01:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:44] <wsg> I am getting ready to try UBUNTU on a Hyprethreaded system, a small step for me, moved from a P4 2.8 to a 3.0 ghz P4 with hyperthreading ....
[01:45] <wickers> wsg, don't hold your breath.
[01:45] <VVraith> Juhaz, I didn't say that :)
[01:45] <dr_willis> steph291,  i found a Gentoo Wiki Page - and used their examples.. Search for "Twinview"
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> VVraith: I dont run raid, all I had was the link
[01:45] <squelly> Jack_Sparrow: sudo ifup eth0 said: "No working leases in persistent database"
[01:45] <Jamminpotato> where could i find swift fox?
[01:45] <tomcatt> !ubotu wifi
[01:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:45] <Juhaz> VVraith, oops, sorry.
[01:45] <wsg> wickers i know, I have done UBUNTU on 64 bit, now that was a Large step, and improvement
[01:45] <Jamminpotato> !ubotu swiftfox > Jamminpotato
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <steph291> damn, there's a lot of action in here ! I like it
[01:45] <Tiger-z> hi, has anyone got lm-sensors working with Gigabyte 965p-DS3 mobo?
[01:46] <trygg> What was the link to howto get xgl working on ubuntu?
[01:46] <steph291> remembering me of the old days with rh :)))
[01:46] <wsg> steph291 I am impressed by the UBUNTU channel, actualy has growen larger than Debian.
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> squelly: what did ifconfig say?
[01:46] <fallingdutch> steph291, what kind of card do you have?
[01:46] <steph291> understood
[01:47] <longwave> squelly: was there any other output other than that from ifup?
[01:47] <brendonjt> wsg:  yeah  this is a good channel
[01:47] <trygg> I dont know if this is how, but lets try
[01:47] <steph291> Fallingdutch : voodoo5500 agp with matrox g400
[01:47] <Psykus> anyone know how I would keep track of max uptime? I know I can use the 'uptime' command to get the current uptime
[01:47] <wsg> Been in here on and off for 2 + years now ...
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !xgl
[01:47] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:47] <cracka12> hey i get this error when using vsftpd on ubuntu server edition 500 OOPS: vsf_sysutil_recv_peek and it wont let me do anything anyone seen this before?
[01:47] <Jamminpotato> anyone know a reposotoriy or where i could find swift fox
[01:47] <longwave> Psykus: check out the uptimed package
[01:48] <squelly> Jack_sparrow: I got sections, one called "eth0" and one called "lo" If you want the whole thing I can retype it on this machine... Is there a particular line you want to see?
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !pastebin > squelly
[01:48] <edju> Strangest thing - on the laptop, insert a commercial data cd, Scrabble game, Netgear insallation, etc, and it's mounted and is read w/o a hitch.  Insert a Linux livcd, knoppix, ubuntu, etc. and ubuntu sees it as a blank cd.  Mount OK on a desktop machine.  Anybody w/ a hint?
[01:48] <steph291> I'm not sure yet if I will hd install ...
[01:48] <wheelswitch> !NETWORKMANAGER
[01:48] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[01:48] <fallingdutch> steph291, i have one card with two outputs .... dont know how to do it with two cards ... but it doesn't depend on ubuntu it depends on xorg ... search for dualdisplay and xorg - i found how to do it with my card with these words, too :-)
[01:48] <Fred21> re
[01:48] <Fred21> longwave: re
[01:48] <phasegen> anyone try installing on a machine with raid?  Particularly with promise fastrax?
[01:48] <Fred21> longwave: the problem is the sam
[01:48] <Psykus> longwave, thanks, exactly what I was looking for :)
[01:48] <steph291> they call that twinview
[01:49] <longwave> squelly: in the eth0 section, what does it say on the "inet addr" line?
[01:49] <cracka12> phasegen: you trying to raid your boot drive?
[01:49] <Fred21> longwave: the update can't change the problem,
[01:49] <fallingdutch> phasegen, got a soft-raid here, but only for data, not as root device
[01:50] <squelly> longwave: inet addr: <IP_ADDRESS> Mask:<IP_ADDRESS> in the "lo" section. That line is not present in eth0
[01:50] <Fred21> the update for the problem with x doesn't work
[01:50] <cracka12> phasegen: if your going to raid everything but your boot drive other wise grub wont take it and your sol. i did that yesterday
[01:50] <steph291> and by the way, with the live cd ubuntu, it starts in 640x480 ... really annoying
[01:50] <cracka12> hey i get this error when using vsftpd on ubuntu server edition 500 OOPS: vsf_sysutil_recv_peek and it wont let me do anything anyone seen this before?
[01:50] <squelly> longwave: only an inet6 addr enttry.
[01:50] <phasegen> cracka12: a buddy of mine is, can he run raid while booting to an ide drive?
[01:50] <nosse> I would like to get some files from my friends trough samba, can anyone recommend some program to do that?
[01:51] <phasegen> cracka12: I don't do raid...
[01:51] <steph291> this is why i'm not sure if I will hd install
[01:51] <Psykus> uptime, 5 days, 23:52:16 :D
[01:51] <squelly> Jack_Sparrow: If the pastebin is something you want, it's trapped on the computer with the nonworking card. not sure how I would get it to you.
[01:51] <jjjjjjj> got a problem.... i am running ubuntu on a mac.  can realplayer work on this platform?
[01:51] <cracka12> phasegen: yea that should work perfectly fine i run on just 10 gig then i raid0 a couple of 40's
[01:51] <cracka12> phasegen: for data
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> squelly: no.. that is ok... I am done for the day anyhow
[01:52] <fallingdutch> phasegen, you can even use a raid as root-dev but have to play with the initial ramdisk  ....
[01:52] <Fred21> is there someone has the probleme with the update on 21th august about x11
[01:52] <phasegen> cracka12: that's what he wants to do... cool.  Thanks.
[01:52] <steph291> doing it by hand ? (dual display) is not fun
[01:52] <squelly> Jack_SParrow: OK. THanks for the help so far.
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:52] <nahoj> argh. my sound just dissapeard after update??
[01:52] <cracka12> phasegen: yup just figured all that crap out yesterday too :) haha
[01:52] <Fred21> i made the update but xserver can't be started ;-(
[01:52] <longwave> squelly: type "dmesg | grep eth0" to see if there are any kernel messages about your network card
[01:53] <cracka12> hey i get this error when using vsftpd on ubuntu server edition 500 OOPS: vsf_sysutil_recv_peek and it wont let me do anything anyone seen this before?
[01:53] <Abst> Haha
[01:53] <Abst> apt-get install cowsay
[01:53] <phasegen> cracka12  fallingdutch   Thank You both.
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> steph291:  You know how to setup dual monitors manually but NOT how to change the default res ?
[01:53] <longwave> squelly: ahhh, actually, do you know if your router needs PPPoE to work? googling for verizon fios suggests it does..
[01:54] <Psykus> also, can someone tell me how to remove the automatically detected device for my wireless card? it doesn't work right, and I think it's conflicting with ndiswrapper when I try to use it
[01:54] <nosse> jjjjjjj: what do you need realplayer for?
[01:54] <fallingdutch> how do i again change my kblayout and my language?
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> longwave: not to mention port forwarding..  :)
[01:54] <Psykus> there's a link on the wiki that supposedly has how to do it, but the link is dead
[01:54] <Fred21> longwave: when i type sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core it say "you've the latest update"
[01:54] <ubuntu_> hi, i'm wondering how i can drop files on a folder that's shared on a windows computer on this network... on KDE it was just smb://192.168.0.whatever
[01:54] <steph291> Captain Jack Sparrow : No I don't know how to set taht up manually
[01:55] <steph291> in mandriva : it works right away
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> stephI just say you telling someone it was not fun, I assumed you had some sort of personal experience
[01:55] <longwave> Fred21: i dont know why your X still isn't working, you have the latest package. do you know what video card or driver you are using?
[01:55] <Jamminpotato> swiftfox is faster
[01:55] <steph291> yes I have :\
[01:55] <squelly> longwave: eth0 Xircom Carbus adapter.... eth0 link is up running at 100Mbit, half duplex ...eth0 noIPV6 routers present ... eth0 Link is up running at 100Mbit half duplex ...eth0 no IPV6 routers present ... eth0 MII transceiver #0 config 3100 status 7809 advertising 01el
[01:55] <fallingdutch> ubuntu_, you can mount the share with mount -t smbfs //192.whaterver/share /mnt/wherever
[01:55] <Fred21> longwave: nvidia
[01:56] <ubuntu_> thanks, fallingdutch
[01:56] <silentj> Does anyone know of a good chess game for Ubin2?
[01:56] <fallingdutch> ubuntu_, np
[01:56] <silentj> I got this Xboard but it sux
[01:56] <Fred21> longwave: i've a nvidia geforce4 mx 440 with nvidia driver
[01:57] <ladydoor> silentj: emacs-chess (if you already use emacs, lol)
[01:57] <fallingdutch> Fred21, are there some [EE]  lines when you start X?
[01:57] <owen_> my rhythmbox is not playing any music... i installed the mp3 codecs, it detects them, but doesnt play them, it just displays the name real quick, than stops...
[01:58] <MrFeetio> hi i wanted to know how to make it so while im playing music system sounds dont play
[01:58] <Fred21> fallingdutch: i've the error msg "x server ..."
[01:58] <Fred21> the same msg in the website of ubuntu about update of xserver
[01:58] <steph291> Dual-Display in Linux is pain ... when you have to tweak the x config... ah man
[01:58] <fallingdutch> Fred21, go to a console (ctrl+alt+F2) and run "startx" and check for lines with [EE]
[01:59] <Fred21> ok i'm seeing, i will back
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !twinview
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <steph291> check the logs when having prob. with X
[01:59] <zerokarmaleft> my network connection is erratic after configuring it for a static ip
[01:59] <Jamminpotato> anyone here use swiftfox
[02:00] <fallingdutch> steph291, it is running very smooth here ;)
[02:00] <owen_> !codecs
[02:00] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:00] <ubuntu_> fallingdutch: "sudo mount -t smbfs //<IP_ADDRESS>/Share-Hansy /mnt/wherever" is giving errors, it says wrong fs type, bad option, or bad superblock ...could this be related to the fact that i'm on a live CD?
[02:00] <zerokarmaleft> about every 30 minutes, everything i'm doing network-related times out
[02:00] <MrFeetio> zerokarmaleft:i had similar problems but i just rest the router and restarted the computer and things got better
[02:00] <steph291> Fallingdutch : send me your xorg config
[02:00] <cracka12> hey i get this error when using vsftpd on ubuntu server edition 500 OOPS: vsf_sysutil_recv_peek and it wont let me do anything anyone seen this before?
[02:00] <Jamminpotato> no swiftFox users?
[02:01] <Miek> i'm having problems running most games, i get an error similar to "Could not initialize SDL Video subsystem: No I/O port permissions."
[02:01] <david1234> FINALLY
[02:01] <sysdoc> Jamminpotato, I'm using it
[02:01] <david1234> yeah yeah
[02:01] <owen_> what software can you use to convert mp3's to the vorbis format?
[02:01] <david1234> i ve been trying to get here for days
[02:01] <fallingdutch> ubuntu_, you have to install smbfs
[02:01] <Fred21> re
[02:01] <ubuntu_> okay, i'll try that
[02:01] <fallingdutch> steph291, which card are you using?
[02:01] <steph291> Miek : xorg config need a set of lines to "set" permission for hardware accelkeration
[02:01] <Fred21> it doesn't work :-(
[02:01] <longwave> squelly: sorry for the delay, i've been reading up about how fios works but can't find much that's helpful. try "sudo pppoeconf" and answer any questions about your internet connection, there is possibly a bug where the live cd settings do not get saved correctly later on.
[02:02] <david1234> question : what do i need to dowload to be able to see my windows files?
[02:02] <Fred21> when i type startx, it say can't to connectt xserver
[02:02] <russellb> I cant drag and drop icons off the application menu to the desktop. If I right click on an icon in the app menu it just lunches the program. Any ideas?
[02:02] <steph291> fallingdutch : voodoo5500 agp and pci matrox g400
[02:02] <squelly> longwave: OK, I;ll do that now.
[02:03] <fallingdutch> steph291, i have only one card so i dont think you can use much of my config
[02:03] <Fred21> longwave: it doesn't work... is it possible to reinstall xserver?
[02:03] <steph291> yes
[02:03] <steph291> I mean falllingdutch :)
[02:03] <Fred21> the update doesn't work correctly
[02:03] <longwave> Fred21: i'm not sure why it doesn't work, i don't think reinstalling X will help...
[02:03] <david1234> helloooo
[02:03] <steph291> lolll
[02:03] <steph291> a man
[02:03] <david1234> how can i see my windows files from ubuntu?
[02:04] <longwave> Fred21: look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241254 - there may be something in there you can try
[02:04] <squelly> longwave: "Sorry, I scanned 1 interface, but the Access concentrator of you provider did not respond..."
[02:04] <brendonjt> david1234:  mount the drive
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs
[02:04] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:04] <Fred21> longwave: my xserver is broken
[02:04] <russellb> david1234: on the ame computer or as a mapped drive?
[02:05] <russellb> Connect to windows shares with Ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[02:05] <brianprogrammer> I currently Have ubuntu installed and I have a wireless network adapter, however, somebody told me that the Gnome-Network-Manager is much better than the default one that comes installed on ubuntu. How do I set this up?
[02:05] <brianprogrammer> I ran sudo apt-get install gnome-network-manager
[02:06] <russellb> brianprogrammer: did it install it
[02:06] <brianprogrammer> yes
[02:06] <brianprogrammer> when i restarted
[02:06] <Fred21> longwave: i must reinstall ubuntu?
[02:06] <brianprogrammer> the gnome-network-manager has an icon
[02:06] <VVraith> do any of you know of a "pci" not "pci-x,pci64" sata hardware raid controller?
[02:06] <brianprogrammer> however it reports no network connection
[02:06] <Fred21> ubuntu makes a mistake and many people are in the problem :-(
[02:06] <russellb> brianprogrammer: I have never used it before so I couldn't tell you past that
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> VVraith: Did you look in the supported hardware list
[02:07] <trygg> !xgl
[02:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:07] <steph291> the livecd of ubuntu : when X start: resolution is 640x480 :( pain in the a...
[02:07] <david1234> yeah is nfts
[02:07] <fallingdutch> Fred21, have you seen [EE]  lines?
[02:07] <fallingdutch> too late
[02:07] <russellb> I cant drag and drop icons off the application menu to the desktop. Is there a setting for this someplace?
[02:07] <david1234> before i downloaded some thing that let me see my windows drives but i dont remember
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> david1234: You could run the diskmounter script
[02:08] <david1234> wht is that?
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[02:08] <VVraith> jack_sparrow: i asked if there was one earlier, but no one mentioned
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[02:08] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:08] <steph291> networkneiboorhood >
[02:08] <VVraith> alrighty :)
[02:08] <steph291> :\
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> VVraith: I must have been napping  :)
[02:08] <brendonjt> russellb: select the icon with left click,  and drag to the desktop
[02:08] <Jamminpotato> sysdoc, when you use swiftfox, does it still say firefox everywher in and on the browser?
[02:09] <fallingdutch> how do i set my locales again? and my Kblayout?
[02:09] <fallingdutch> !kblayout
[02:09] <russellb> brendonjt: yeah that does not work
[02:09] <sysdoc> Jamminpotato, no it says swiftfox
[02:09] <russellb> strange huh
[02:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kblayout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:09] <VVraith> Jack_Sparrow:  damn, I've seen that page, it doesn't include raid controllers
[02:09] <fallingdutch> !keyboard
[02:09] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[02:09] <Tiger-z> !lm-sensors
[02:10] <ubotu> lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.9.2-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 463 kB, installed size 1452 kB
[02:10] <^Z3D^> anyone here running counterstrike source?
[02:10] <brendonjt> russellb: i just went to the applications->internet and draged amsn  to the desktop  hold the left mouse button and drag  it to the desktop
[02:10] <Jamminpotato> sysdoc, cause i installed it and whe n i launch swift fox from the terminal it still says firefox
[02:10] <VVraith> HardwareSupportComponentsSerialATAControllers  is there, but it is not a link yet
[02:10] <steph291> btw : it's Captain Jack Sparrow :) with a big C
[02:10] <VVraith> suggests it is coming, but not there yet
[02:10] <sysdoc> Jamminpotato, apps>internet>swiftfox
[02:11] <brendonjt> Captian Jack Sparrow: ya got the black perl back yet lol
[02:11] <fishy> How do I enable FastCGI on my Ubuntu server?
[02:11] <Jamminpotato> sysdoc, its not in there
[02:11] <longwave> squelly: i have found a couple of old threads where people talk about that access concentrator error, but no fix
[02:11] <russellb> brendonjt: Yeah, done it a million times in other OS's... does not work in Ubuntu for me. Fresh install too
[02:11] <longwave> squelly: have you tried powering off the pc and router, powering the router on and waiting for it to start, then powering the pc back on?
[02:11] <sysdoc> Jamminpotato, install it with Automatix
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> VVraith: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[02:11] <russellb> brendonjt: if I right click on an app all it does it launch the app
[02:12] <brendonjt> russellb: hmm that weird  cos it just worked for me,  and i am using dapper LTS, fresh install a day ago
[02:12] <squelly> longwave: I tried that earlier, no joy.
[02:12] <VVraith> ty again jack, lookin
[02:12] <brendonjt> russellb: LEFT click  not right click
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:12] <Jamminpotato> sysdoc, how do i use automatix, i jsut followed the ubuntu directions on getswiftfox.com
[02:13] <VVraith> ha ha ha, I've seen that one too
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> sysdoc: friends dont let friends try automatix
[02:13] <ben````> holy shit, lotsa of people
[02:13] <longwave> squelly: sorry, i am stumped then :(
[02:13] <sysdoc> Jack_Sparrow, lol, worked fine for me
[02:13] <Warbo> !workedforme
[02:13] <russellb> brendonjt: yes, just like in other OS's... not working
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about workedforme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !worksforme
[02:13] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !works
[02:13] <minerale> Hi could someoen help me setup my printer with samba? I have the printed wofking fine on my computer and samba works too. My other computer is windows, I have looked up the shared printer added, it but when I try to print I get access denied messages, how do I enable one username to print?
[02:13] <Warbo> That's the one
[02:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about works - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:13] <sysdoc> Jamminpotato, http://www.getautomatix.com/
[02:14] <brendonjt> Captian Jack Sparrow: true about automatix heard it was a bit buggy and can reck havoc
[02:14] <squelly> longwave: s'ok. I appreciate you trying!
[02:14] <russellb> brendonjt: It should be common sense and I am sure it is but something is wrong here with my Ubuntu
[02:14] <ben````> lol
[02:14] <sysdoc> Jack_Sparrow, Automatix dork something up for you?
[02:14] <longwave> !automatix
[02:14] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[02:14] <Jamminpotato> sysdoc, in synaptic it shows it being installed as well
[02:14] <ben````> soundgate irc's from root, what a weird
[02:14] <ben````> er
[02:14] <ben````> *doof
[02:14] <soundgate> why can't I send messages in other channels? e.g. #winehq
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> sysdoc:  We get people in here EVERY day with systems trashed by automatix and easyubuntu
[02:14] <brendonjt> russellb: hmm  true  sorry for shouting and snapping,  umm not sure what  you have going on there  have you done all the updates
[02:14] <owen_> what software can you use to convert mp3's to FLAC format?
[02:15] <brendonjt> owen_: why use flac  why not ogg
[02:15] <cafuego> what would be the point of doing that?
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> stephans: good luck.
[02:15] <brendonjt> steph291:  don't do that why why why
[02:15] <inlanderf> hi
[02:15] <longwave> owen_: transcoding mp3s is never a good idea, and to flac would just be a waste of space
[02:16] <cafuego> owen_: When the mp3 was created, it was compressed and data was discraded. This data will not come back, ever. You'll just have a (low quality) flac eating disk space.
[02:16] <owen_> my rhythmbox is not playing mp3's for some reason, and I have them installed
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> steph291 had no intention of using ubuntu
[02:16] <russellb> brendonjt: Nope, have not updated. This is my first time with Ubuntu. I am used to Suse. Its also first time with Gnome. Im a KDE user
[02:16] <ladydoor> owen_: though transcoding mp3s to ogg is a good idea :-)
[02:17] <ladydoor> owen_: i've never had a problem with i
[02:17] <ladydoor> t
[02:17] <Arrick> _jason you here?
[02:17] <cafuego> ladydoor: No, it's an even worse diea than converting them to flac.
[02:17] <ladydoor> ( sudo aptitude install mp32ogg )
[02:17] <neeophyte> can someone tell me the path to the Totem sound player app ?
[02:17] <Arrick> cafuego, you know much about vmware in windows?
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> russellb: You may be more comfortable in Kubuntu
[02:17] <brendonjt> russellb: ok  umm do all your updates  as it might help
[02:17] <ladydoor> cafuego: uhhh...why? ogg is higher quality than mp3
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> russellb: with Kubuntu
[02:17] <ladydoor> cafuego: and i've never had a probelem with it
[02:17] <cafuego> ladydoor: Not if your source matrial is mp3.
[02:17] <red|rain> neeja, its /usr/bin/totem
[02:17] <russellb> I found if I right click on a desktop Icon and choose creat New -> launcher then I can make an Icon on my desktop
[02:17] <sysdoc> Jack_Sparrow, well I didn't try to install the nvidia driver, but it seems to do fine with everything else. And that is unusual for this laptop. Seems everything with this box needs the longest most convoluted methods to get things installed..
[02:17] <longwave> ladydoor: there is still a quality loss doing that, compared to taking the original cd straight to ogg. you may as well keep them as mp3 unless you don't want to install things from multiverse for some reason :)
[02:17] <russellb> I am wanting to learn gnome more
[02:17] <cafuego> ladydoor: Converting from lossy -> lossy = 2xlossy.
[02:18] <Xenguy> neeophyte: type: which totem
[02:18] <russellb> thanks for are your help!
[02:18] <cracka12> hey i get this error when using vsftpd on ubuntu server edition 500 OOPS: vsf_sysutil_recv_peek and it wont let me do anything anyone seen this before?
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> sysdoc: np, it is just that we do try to discourage automatix and easyubuntu
[02:18] <owen_> alright so ogg vorbis and flac is only recommended if coming straight from the cd right?
[02:18] <Arrick> does anyone here know how to turn of a device driver in vmware on windows?
[02:18] <neeophyte> Red|rain tks
[02:18] <cafuego> Arrick: No, but a bit about windows in vmware ;-)
[02:18] <anthony> longwave, I sorted the language problem! CLose all OOo windows -> new document -> alter language.  That's it.  If there is another doc needed in Proper English, simply copy paste & overwrite! seems to work so far anyways!  cheers
[02:18] <red|rain> neeja, no prob ^_^
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> sysdoc: We seem to end up with very unhappy peoiple
[02:18] <Arrick> (i realize its a bit out of the topic here)
[02:18] <cafuego> Arrick: Probably just go to the hardware manager and disble the device.
[02:19] <Arrick> cafuego, its not in the device manager,
[02:19] <owen_> how do i get my rhythmbox player to play the mp3's that it has in the library, it was playing them before, i have the gstreamer codecs installed...
[02:19] <cafuego> Arrick: Services?
[02:19] <longwave> anthony: ah yeah, that's neater than modifying the language files - good idea :)
[02:19] <owen_> then when i restarted, its not playing them anymore
[02:19] <beemonk> xchat=weird
[02:19] <Arrick> "THe installer failed to stop the Vstor2 Virtual Storage Driver"
[02:19] <red|rain> beemonk, whats weird about xchat?
[02:20] <anthony> xchat's ace
[02:20] <_w^x_> where does the mythTV package create th "myth" directory?
[02:20] <beemonk> umm, well im trying to use it like its mIRC
[02:20] <beemonk> :P
[02:20] <_w^x_> *the
[02:20] <red|rain> beemonk, ahh icic
[02:20] <Arrick> cafuego, ^
[02:20] <ladydoor> longwave: aha
[02:20] <cafuego> Arrick: probably services
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> beemonk:  try konversation...
[02:20] <beemonk> i've just come from that lol
[02:20] <brendonjt> red|rain: xchat is good  but xchat-gnome is yuk
[02:21] <Arrick> ok, just tried that, hopefully someone knows more on it
[02:21] <sysdoc> Jamminpotato, if it is installed and you don't have a launcher for it in the menus, rt clk applications>edit menus, see if you can find it in there
[02:21] <beemonk> brendonjt: reccomend = ?
[02:21] <Aman> where i can install C complier?
[02:21] <minerale> Please could someone, please , please help me setup a printer  with samba ?
[02:21] <ladydoor> Aman: build-essential
[02:21] <longwave> Aman: install the "build-essential" package
[02:21] <brendonjt> beemonk: xchat  is good nice interface as well,  bitchx is good that is terminal  based
[02:21] <inlanderf> what is a good gui ftp  apt
[02:22] <thybo> why is the dev repository of skype unavailable?
[02:22] <Huck> inlander gftp
[02:22] <longwave> inlanderf: just use places > connect to server in gnome?
[02:22] <inlanderf> thanks
[02:22] <wwseb> hello, have you try to setup ubuntu on macbook ?
[02:22] <inlanderf> how do i install it huck
[02:22] <Huck> sudo apt-get install gftp
[02:23] <Huck> you might need repositories
[02:23] <inlanderf> ill try it
[02:23] <foxjwill> does anyone know how to force use of the Dapper versio nof libpoppler1 vs. the compiz version? evidently (according to this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214424) I need to install it to be able to install kubuntu-desktop.
[02:23] <jud> I've been having problems with my broadcom, I've now gotten to the point where I can see my wireless router in the wireless assistant program, but can't connect.  Anyone have any ideas?
[02:24] <fallingdutch> foxjwill, search for pinning guess the technique is in ubuntu still the same
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> foxjwill: that will install the kde apps that are part of Kubuntu, you will not end up with Kubuntu
[02:24] <clusty> i reinstalled windows and it overwrote grub
[02:24] <Trae> What if DMA is already 1 and you are still getting jerky playback on your DVD?  http://www.shorttext.com/93rfh
[02:24] <fallingdutch> clusty, that is normal ;)
[02:24] <longwave> !grub > clusty
[02:24] <peteweez> clusty: yeah windows is carnivorous that way
[02:24] <clusty> how can i rewrite the MBR with grub?
[02:24] <thybo> how do you remove amsn configurations?
[02:24] <Jamminpotato> sysdoc, like i launch swift fox and the title bar and about say firefox
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> jud: Port forwarding from the router comes to mind..
[02:24] <clusty> i know
[02:24] <Trae> I'm getting some odd error:  HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument
[02:24] <_w^x_> who can I find out what a package will do if i install it? such as what directoriess will it create?
[02:24] <HeathenDan> that's to be expected clusty
[02:25] <peteweez> clusty: boot with live cd, run install-grub
[02:25] <_w^x_> where does the mythTV package create th "myth" directory?
[02:25] <clusty> !grub > clusty
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> People, I need to start dinner, I will lurk for awhile
[02:25] <HeathenDan> go to wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:25] <beemonk> Whats everyone using for aim/msn/* ?
[02:25] <thybo> gaim
[02:25] <pike_> jud: if you do "sudo iwconfig ath0 essid networkname" and then "sudo dhclient ath0"    where ath0 would be your device name does it get an ip address?
[02:25] <brendonjt> beemonk: amsn
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> gaim
[02:25] <beemonk> :)
[02:25] <_w^x_> Gaim!
[02:25] <Aman> where i can install this: checking tcl build dir... configure: error: Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl package is not tcl-dev ??
[02:25] <jmhodges> ok, i've tried debugging myself, and i've checked the wiki
[02:26] <thybo> msn& aim gaim
[02:26] <_w^x_> xchat for irc or irssi
[02:26] <longwave> _w^x_: what do you expect to be stored in that directory?
[02:26] <tlhenry> gain rocks , except the webcam function is not there
[02:26] <jmhodges> but for the life of me, i can't figure out why my SBLive card is recognized, but refuses to play any audio
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !best
[02:26] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:26] <jmhodges> i went through alsamixer and everything
[02:26] <jmhodges> i'm totally confused
[02:26] <brendonjt> _w^X_:xchat
[02:26] <clusty> thanx
[02:26] <_w^x_> no
[02:26] <_w^x_> no
[02:26] <Huck> jmhodges: do you have more than one soundcard?
[02:26] <NullVector> anyone know where I can find xgl/compiz themes, I had a site somewhere, but seems I can't find it now?
[02:27] <jmhodges> Huck, apparently, its seeing three1
[02:27] <longwave> Aman: which version of tcl do you need? there are a few versions in ubuntu
[02:27] <thybo> how do you clear cache?
[02:27] <jmhodges> Huck, but sblive is showing to aplay as snd card 0
[02:27] <foxjwill> jack_sparrow: than, how do i install kubuntu?
[02:27] <_w^x_> I'm asking about where the ubuntu provided mythTV package creates the myth directory...
[02:27] <Huck> jmhodges: can you disable onboard sound thorugh your mobo?
[02:27] <Aman> i need tcl to use amsn 0.96R
[02:27] <longwave> thybo: what cache?
[02:27] <jmhodges> Huck, erm, thats a good question
[02:27] <longwave> _w^x_: yes, what exactly is that directory for?
[02:27] <thybo> apt
[02:27] <Huck> jmhodges: hang on a sec, I just wenth thorugh something similar myself.
[02:27] <foxjwill> (sorry, i was afk)
[02:27] <jmhodges> Huck, cool, thanks
[02:27] <_w^x_> longwave, the media that you record I thing
[02:28] <longwave> _w^x_: is it part of the mythtv back end, front end or database?
[02:29] <foxjwill> Jack_Sparrow: than, how do i install kubuntu?
[02:29] <fallingdutch> night all
[02:29] <_w^x_> nevermind
[02:29] <brendonjt> foxjwill: download the kubuntu .iso
[02:29] <foxjwill> even though i already have dapper w/ gnome?
[02:30] <longwave> foxjwill: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[02:30] <foxjwill> does anyone know how to force use of the Dapper versio nof libpoppler1 vs. the compiz version? evidently (according to this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214424) I need to install it to be able to install kubuntu-desktop.
[02:30] <foxjwill> that's what i posted earlier
[02:30] <brendonjt> longwave:  opps  will that  just download the kde desktop and required files?
[02:31] <longwave> brendonjt: yes, and install them so you can choose kde as a desktop (works the same for xubuntu-desktop, too)
[02:31] <peteweez> foxjwill: you need to force the version
[02:31] <peteweez> foxjwill: do you have synaptic?
[02:31] <jjjjjjj> nosse:  i need realplayer to watch big brother.
[02:31] <foxjwill> peteweez: yes
[02:31] <Aman> !tcl
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tcl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <longwave> foxjwill: i suggest you remove compiz for now, install kde, then reinstall compiz
[02:32] <Huck> jmhodges: go here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449&highlight=sound+driver+order  and look for this: Configuring default soundcards / stopping multiple soundcards from switching
[02:32] <foxjwill> longwave: ok
[02:32] <jmhodges> Huck, ahhhh.. hmmm
[02:32] <longwave> foxjwill: maybe #ubuntu-xgl will have more help as they can deal better with xgl/compiz questions
[02:32] <peteweez> foxjwill, select force version on one of the menus
[02:32] <brendonjt> aman: have you tried in synamptic?
[02:32] <Aman> !tkc
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tkc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <Huck> jmhodges: it makes sure that the right driver loads first, so you can specify which soundcard runs at boot... worked for me
[02:32] <Larynx> y0
[02:32] <Skuz`> hello
[02:32] <brendonjt> skuz':hello
[02:33] <jmhodges> Huck, cool, i'll make sure this is all good
[02:33] <jmhodges> Huck, thanks1
[02:33] <Huck> jmhodges: i hope that helps
[02:33] <Huck> sure~!
[02:33] <Skuz`> can anyone help me setup xgl and compiz on my 9800?
[02:33] <longwave> Aman: try "sudo apt-get install tcl-8.4-dev tk-8.4-dev imlib1-dev" to install the tcl/tk and imlib dev packages, they look like they are needed for amsn
[02:33] <Skuz`> x.org module for ati is installed
[02:33] <Jamminpotato> i used the ATI driver Skuz`
[02:33] <Skuz`>  I followed an online tut i found and it didnt work
[02:33] <Jamminpotato> the standard open on on my 9800pro
[02:33] <Skuz`> i've got xgl and compiz installed
[02:33] <Jamminpotato> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[02:33] <Skuz`> but they wont run
[02:33] <Skuz`> ubuntu
[02:34] <longwave> !xgl
[02:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:34] <HLM> is it possible to install Ubuntu without Firefox?
[02:34] <foxjwill> peteweez: it worked!
[02:34] <Skuz`> HLM just remove firefox when you're done
[02:34] <Jamminpotato> HLM, jsut remove it in synaptic
[02:34] <Skuz`> but why would you want too
[02:34] <brendonjt> longwave:  when  you use synamptic  or apt-get it installs those dependices for you, well that is what i have found
[02:34] <peteweez> foxjwill: AWESOME!
[02:34] <HLM> thanks
[02:34] <longwave> brendonjt: but Aman is trying to compile amsn, so he needs those dev packages
[02:34] <digivore> can anyone recommend a package installer, other than adept?
[02:34] <Jamminpotato> Skuz`, maybe hlm wants to install swiftfox isntead?
[02:35] <jjjjjjj> meh... typical linux chat room help.
[02:35] <longwave> brendonjt: apt-get will install dependencies for binary packages, though
[02:35] <angel12> hey guys, i cant connect to my wifi using an atmel card on  afresh install of ubuntu. am i missing something?
[02:35] <dr_willis> I often wonder how trustworty things like swiftfox are.
[02:35] <Skuz`> lol
[02:35] <brendonjt> longwave:  ok that must be where i get confussed
[02:35] <digivore> swiftfox!  thats it!
[02:35] <Jamminpotato> dr_willis, liek personal information or crashing stem trustworthy?
[02:35] <Jamminpotato> digivore, ????????
[02:35] <dr_willis> Jamminpotato,  like slamming the web servers and  causing problems trustworty
[02:36] <digivore> thats the program i was trying to think of
[02:36] <Jamminpotato> how does it slam webserers? dr_willis
[02:36] <longwave> does swiftfox actually make any difference? firefox is fast enough for me anyway!
[02:36] <dr_willis> longwave,  thats also a good question
[02:36] <digivore> no  never mind  thats not it.
[02:36] <Jamminpotato> longwave, firefox was a little slower on linux then i was used to in windows, so i'm using swiftfox now
[02:37] <dr_willis> Jamminpotato,  ive heard of some other firefox tweeks that  aparently open more connections to web servers and do other 'things' that are not exactly according to the  specs. :)
[02:37] <Skuz`> anyone mind helping me w/ a line for fstab for an NTFS drive?
[02:37] <dr_willis> I dont even know how you Test/prove the speeds of the things.
[02:37] <Skuz`> i need the options part
[02:37] <Psykus> Jamminpotato, are you using the firefox that comes with ubuntu? the one with just the globe icon?
[02:37] <dr_willis> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume     - for all your NTFS needs
[02:37] <pike_> Skuz`: i normally just put defaults,umask=000 in the options line i think
[02:37] <dr_willis> has details on all the options and what ones you may want to use.
[02:37] <digivore> repository installer programs?   any options?
[02:38] <Psykus> that one is always slow for me, I always install the version from mozilla.org
[02:38] <digivore> anyone?
[02:38] <Skuz`> 000?
[02:38] <Skuz`> i dont want to write to the drive
[02:38] <pike_> Skuz`: thats just read access
[02:38] <longwave> Skuz`: i use "ro,umask=0222"
[02:38] <cafuego> Skuz`: You wont, because the driver can't. Just mount it 'ro'.
[02:38] <eliran> Hello
[02:38] <minerale> Please could someone, please , please help me setup a printer  with samba ?
[02:38] <qatsi> ok, now my xgl is working great...im amazed of how it works :D
[02:38] <Akkard_3> Hi
[02:38] <_wall> Hello
[02:38] <jonkri> hi! i'm sorry that i can't be more specific but this is all i got... when my friend tries to install ubuntu the ubuntu installation logo comes up and then it crashes... i know this must be hard for your to guess but do you have any idea why this might happen?
[02:38] <Abst> This may seem like a silly request, but does anyone have a suggestion for a good game on apt-get?
[02:39] <dr_willis> Abst,  frozen-bubble, slune,
[02:39] <Abst> Okay
[02:39] <Abst> Ill try them now
[02:39] <MERLiiN> sup
[02:39] <dr_willis> Abst,  several tron clones. :P
[02:39] <Abst> The list is lonng
[02:39] <beemonk> ewww
[02:39] <Huck> jonkri: try burning a new disk
[02:39] <Abst> Cool
[02:39] <longwave> Abst: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games ?
[02:39] <beemonk> the fonts for aMSN are yucky
[02:39] <dr_willis> Abst,  depends on the kind of games ya like.
[02:39] <beemonk> where can i get some smooth looking fonts? :P
[02:39] <Abst> I'm looking at packages.
[02:39] <_wall> you tell me
[02:39] <Jamminpotato> Psykus, yea im using the default ubuntu one
[02:39] <eliran> secret
[02:39] <Akkard_3> fun
[02:39] <jonkri> Huck, you don't think it might be hardware related?
[02:39] <MERLiiN> ??
[02:40] <jonkri> Huck, that is, computer component hardware related :P
[02:40] <Huck> jonkri: it's hard to say, but that's where I'd start. I've had problems with disks before
[02:40] <thybo> anyone got a link to install a webcam?
[02:40] <jonkri> Huck, i see. thank you
[02:40] <thybo> easycam2 doesn't work with me
[02:40] <Jamminpotato> Psykus, is it not the best version or somethin
[02:40] <Jamminpotato> g?
[02:40] <Psykus> Jamminpotato, i'd recommend following the tutorial on the ubuntu wiki to install the "new firefox" (back when the one with ubuntu was an old version)
[02:41] <longwave> jonkri: what do you mean the logo comes up? do you get the grub menu at the start? what is the last thing it says before it crashes? what hardware (desktop/laptop, ram size) are you installing on?
[02:41] <Psykus> Jamminpotato, the one you can get from mozilla.org is a lot faster, at least in my experience
[02:41] <Jamminpotato> gotchya
[02:41] <Psykus> plus you get the nifty firefox logo/icon :PO
[02:42] <jonkri> longwave, hehe, i realize now i'm even more pathetic than i thought ... :) i don't know
[02:42] <Psykus> :P
[02:42] <Skuz`> anyone have a step by step instruction page for using xgl/compiz on ati hardware?
[02:42] <Jamminpotato> Psykus, so what is different between the ubuntu one and the mozilla one?
[02:42] <inlanderf> why I can't i open a folder when I try to go to my ftp site
[02:42] <Skuz`> the link that was given to me for xgl was nothing more than a synopsis
[02:42] <digivore> is there a specific name for programs like 'adept' and 'synaptic'?
[02:42] <longwave> jonkri: it's pretty hard to help without knowing basic details like that, there are many possible causes and fixes ;)
[02:42] <sethk> Jamminpotato, usually the mozilla one is a bit newer
[02:42] <Psykus> Jamminpotato, i'm not sure exactly, apart from the icon, but it's faster
[02:43] <inlanderf> why I can't i open the ftp folder when I try to go to my ftp site
[02:43] <longwave> Skuz`: did you follow the links in that synopsis? they tell you how to install the individual parts - xgl or aiglx, then compiz
[02:43] <jonkri> longwave, obviously :)
[02:43] <Arrick> permissions,
[02:44] <Sewar> Is there any Glade 3 packages for 6.06?
[02:44] <Masqy> Hi all, I have an ubuntu installation question
[02:44] <Arrick> read, browse
[02:44] <Skuz`> longwave,  i didnt get your link apparently
[02:44] <longwave> !xgl
[02:44] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:44] <Skuz`> the one i was given just told me what it was
[02:44] <Skuz`> yeah that doesnt help me buddy
[02:44] <Skuz`> the only installation link on there is for nvidia
[02:44] <Skuz`> which does me no good
[02:44] <Skuz`> i've got both installed
[02:44] <Skuz`> the software its self that is
[02:44] <Arrick> inlanderf, permissions, and the browse setting
[02:44] <longwave> #ubuntu-xgl can help better with xgl questions than we can..
[02:44] <Skuz`> okay
[02:45] <inlanderf> explain please
[02:45] <wickers> How can I get OOo to remember my language settings?
[02:45] <wickers> like the language to use when spell checking.
[02:45] <Masqy> I would like to install a new version of an application which exists in ubuntu, but to retain the original one, that is, I actually want 2 versions of the same application installed. What is the simplest way to achieve that?
[02:45] <longwave> wickers: this is a bug in openoffice (someone asked about this just an hour ago!)
[02:45] <wickers> :(
[02:45] <buzzygirl> hello
[02:46] <longwave> wickers: the easy workaround is to open a new document, set the language, save that document, then copy it every time you want to start a new document after that
[02:46] <wickers> Well it is set to english canadian by default because that's what I selected when I installed ubuntu... so clearly it's getting it's settings from somewhere...
[02:46] <brendonjt> hello buzzygirl
[02:46] <D-Man`> I get GStreamer encountered a general resource error when trying to play mp3 file on desktop
[02:46] <longwave> wickers: yes, this is similar to what we found earlier, but neither of us could find any real fix
[02:46] <wickers> Where does ubuntu store installation settings for reference?
[02:46] <D-Man`> been reading various google and other docs till I can't see straight
[02:47] <longwave> wickers: there are several configuration files, it depends on the application that is being configured, but /var/log/installer is a good start
[02:48] <D-Man`> yes:  I've tried adding the various recommended gstreamer plug-ins  any way to get things back to DEFAULT status?
[02:48] <Masqy> Hi all, is there a way to install another version of the same program in ubuntu? (while not running over the older one)
[02:48] <buzzygirl> Hi brendonjt
[02:48] <sagarp> how can i get ndiswrapper to load at startup?
[02:48] <jikuty> do you guys think it's worth it to install Ubuntu to an old AMD 450MHz PC?
[02:48] <Here_comes_me_64> Here I am
[02:48] <jikuty> or will it run like shit?
[02:49] <sethk> jikuty, it will be tolerable
[02:49] <inlanderf> why I can't i open a folder when I try to go to my ftp site
[02:49] <sethk> jikuty, probably a good idea to choose a low overhead desktop, possibly fluxbox
[02:49] <jikuty> i see
[02:49] <pianoboy3333> anyone wanna see one of the funniest error messages? http://piano.juicemedia.tv/junk/Banshee_Error.jpg
[02:49] <pianoboy3333> oops
[02:49] <Bison> how can i run a memtest from the livecd?
[02:49] <jikuty> ill give it a try .. the pc is just collecting dust right now anyways :D
[02:49] <pianoboy3333> http://piano.juicemedia.tv/junk/Banshee_Error.png everyone
[02:50] <Jamminpotato> 450mhz should be good with xfce too, i got gnome on myne but it wasnt too slow, not too fast either, but yea xubuntu ftw jikuty
[02:50] <longwave> wickers: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/35936 is the openoffice bug in launchpad but there is not much there :(
[02:50] <Skuz`> if i'm getting 260 - 320fps in glxgears on a 9800pro, are the proper drivers installed and working?
[02:50] <longwave> Masqy: probably not easily, what program are you talking about and why do you want two versions at once?
[02:50] <buzzygirl> jikuty: have you looked into damn small linux?
[02:51] <jikuty> nope
[02:51] <buzzygirl> Xubuntu might work on that old puter too
[02:51] <inlanderf> why I can't i open a folder when I try to go to my ftp site
[02:51] <jikuty> i just got the idea to install linux on it now :P
[02:51] <longwave> inlanderf: does it work on an ftp program on another computer or on windows?
[02:51] <buzzygirl> Linux can make the most of an old computer
[02:51] <inlanderf> yes
[02:51] <Masqy> longwave: The newest version of VLC, decodes WMV3 format, but it is still buggy regarding subtitles.  I want to watch movies with subtitles, and to be able to watch live TV via 0.8.5 (0.8.4 is the current version)
[02:51] <jikuty> that's what I figured :D
[02:51] <inlanderf> in windows
[02:52] <buzzygirl> Damn Small might work quite well for this!
[02:52] <archaios> use mplayer
[02:52] <Red-Sox> Troubles
[02:52] <buzzygirl> Check into it: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
[02:52] <jikuty> alright, ill check it out
[02:52] <hou5ton> I did the first part of the following recommendation, but don't know how to do the second ... install a program called network-manager-gnome, then disable the built-in networking utility that comes with Ubuntu.
[02:52] <buzzygirl> 50 megabytes of penguin power! LOL
[02:52] <inlanderf> I can get to the site and there is a folder on my desktop, but it wont open
[02:52] <jikuty> !
[02:52] <jikuty> 50 mb!!
[02:52] <Masqy> longwave: specifically, when you pause the movie, the subtitles which were displatyed at the same time disappear after a few seconds
[02:52] <Red-Sox> The installer freezes everytime after 'Starting partitioner' on ONE of my boxes, works on the others
[02:52] <jikuty> lol
[02:52] <longwave> Masqy: ah i see. unfortunately i don't know of any easy way around that without compiling one version from source and installing it in a different directory...
[02:53] <buzzygirl> Heh,
[02:53] <hou5ton> How do I disable the built-in networking utility that came with Ubuntu?
[02:53] <buzzygirl> jikuty, have you had other Linux experience?
[02:53] <Alejandr0> Hola a todos...
[02:53] <inlanderf> hola elex
[02:53] <jikuty> wow -- that is amazing
[02:53] <jikuty> at the moment, I'm dualbooted with debian
[02:54] <jikuty> but, I installed it mainly just to fool around.. I don't use it seriously.
[02:54] <Masqy> longwave: is there a way to install it "localy", that is , not to install, just keep the files in my home dir at, say /home/masqy/vlc ?
[02:54] <buzzygirl> Old computers are FUN
[02:54] <brendonjt> jikuty: he could try using the alturnitive install cd  instead of the live version
[02:54] <longwave> !es
[02:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:54] <buzzygirl> you can mess around with them and not worry too much about breaking them
[02:54] <jikuty> yeah, that's what I'm intending
[02:54] <buzzygirl> I'm using a throwaway computer from work...
[02:54] <jmhodges> ok, that didnt do it
[02:54] <jikuty> im gonna first install Ubuntu, and check what the performance is like
[02:54] <jmhodges> i've even tossed /dev/random at my only /dev/dsp
[02:54] <Here_comes_me_64> :P
[02:54] <minerale> Please could someone, please , please help me setup a printer  with samba ?
[02:54] <jmhodges> nothing comes out :-/
[02:54] <jikuty> otherwise, I'm going to go into DSL, or Xubuntu
[02:54] <buzzygirl> ... they just gave it to me. It's got a 700 MHz Celeron processor with 256 mb of memory
[02:55] <jmhodges> and it works in my windows install
[02:55] <jikuty> you can do a lot with 700MHz
[02:55] <inlanderf>  I can get to the ftp site and there is a folder on my desktop, but it wont open
[02:55] <sethk> buzzygirl, if you are in the u.s. you'll have to report it as income
[02:55] <peteweez> minerale: I don't know a lot about that, but there are a lot of good guides...look it up on google.
[02:55] <sethk> buzzygirl, at least theoretically  :)
[02:55] <buzzygirl> Ubuntu requires 256 MB of memory to install via the Live CD... I could not get it to work when this computer had only 128 MB.
[02:55] <buzzygirl> sethk: heheh! I wish I had 700 million of something
[02:56] <longwave> Masqy: the problem is there are so many files in a vlc install that i don't think it would work as simply as that, i'm sure it expects certain files to be in fixed directories that you won't be able to change without recompiling
[02:56] <peteweez> minerale, also check #tapthru and #debian
[02:56] <longwave> Masqy: how are you installing the newer version anyway? i'm assuming it isn't in the repository yet
[02:56] <Masqy> longwave: there is an ubuntu package at the VLC main site.
[02:56] <buzzygirl> Xubuntu works better on systems with smaller hardware capabilities
[02:56] <jikuty> alright- I think ill give that a try
[02:56] <jikuty> 128mb ram , 1.4 gb .. not bad
[02:57] <buzzygirl> Cool, jikuty, I wish you luck!
[02:57] <jikuty> thanks :)
[02:57] <jikuty> im gonna download it now
[02:57] <Kragnerac> :)
[02:57] <Masqy> Iongwave: I've installed it, and then uninstalled it again, ( I prefer my subtitles than some TV)
[02:57] <Here_comes_me_64> Hi everyone
[02:57] <buzzygirl> jikuty: those specs are probably fine for Xubuntu
[02:57] <buzzygirl> go fer it heheh!
[02:57] <jolt> Anyone ever have issues with printing PDF's.. first page comes out fine, rest just confuse the heck out of the printer
[02:57] <Masqy> longwave: yes, it is still considered "unstable" but the files I installed are from May 2006.
[02:58] <Here_comes_me_64> I have a question
[02:58] <jmhodges> Huck, no go :-/
[02:58] <jikuty> buzzygirl: great :D
[02:58] <Masqy> longwave: (the 0.8.5)
[02:58] <jikuty> in the meantime, I'm going to set up this dusty pc
[02:58] <soundgate> what is ncurses for?
[02:58] <jikuty> no need to format in advance, correct?
[02:58] <jikuty> the software should just handle that for me?
[02:58] <longwave> Masqy: i can't see an easy way round this, though there may be some advanced dpkg/apt-get magic you can do that will help here
[02:58] <Here_comes_me_64> Is there anyway to get virtual Video Memory?
[02:58] <dr_willis> ncurses is for console-time-interface-design and neat tricks. :P
[02:58] <jolt> Also. Has anyone sucessfully run the live installer on the current Edgy build without it crashing?
[02:58] <dr_willis> console type interface/tricks. :P  Like 'mc' uses.
[02:59] <buzzygirl> no, if you want to install Ubuntu (Xubuntu) as the sole OS, it'll ask you in advance
[02:59] <soundgate> is ncurses-5.5 the latest version?
[02:59] <Masqy> if I compile, which file will it run when I simply type 'vlc a.avi' ?
[02:59] <buzzygirl> BRB
[02:59] <longwave> Masqy: by default it would run the version you installed from a package; when compiling you would have to set a flag to install the new version in another directory. then you would run it with "/path/to/new/vlc a.avi"
[03:00] <gotama> Hi There! Has anyone succeeded in installing the scanner Epson Perfection 1270?
[03:00] <mindjuju> so what do i do if I try to install courier-authmysql and I see that i've spelled it right in packages.ubuntu.com but when i type sudo apt-get install courier-authmysql  it says it can't find the package?
[03:00] <Jamminpotato> jikuty, you might want to try xubuntu even if ubuntu works fine...i use XFCE because i like it more then GNOME thus i use xubuntu not ubuntu, even though  i could run eitehr
[03:00] <Masqy> how do I set the install dir for a compiled one?
[03:00] <silverwizard> Hey, question Re SIP softphone clients especially SJphone, anyone know of an easy install for SJphone (alien seems to have failed me) or a better SIP client?
[03:00] <Masqy> longwave:
[03:00] <buzzygirl> back
[03:00] <UPC> Jack_Sparrow: Sorry about not responding, was out meeting apartment neighbors
[03:00] <UPC> anything I try to install messes up
[03:01] <longwave> Masqy: instead of just ./configure, i think you need "./configure --prefix=/path/to/install" - but vlc is quite complex, you may have to read the documentation
[03:01] <jmhodges> im going crazy trying to figure out why my sound doesnt work in ubuntu
[03:01] <HeathenDan> me too, lol
[03:01] <jolt> Heh i should go get the RX320 command line app from Debian Repositories if i can figure out why PDF's tend to spaz the printer
[03:02] <Masqy> longwave: well, it might be a good practice for me, I've already compiled amule before drapper
[03:02] <jmhodges> for some reason, its saying i have a CIrrus Logic card
[03:02] <jmhodges> but i dont1
[03:02] <jmhodges> i even disabled my AC97 card on my mobo
[03:02] <soundgate> what is DESTDIR?
[03:02] <jmhodges> soundgate, destination directory
[03:02] <Masqy> longwave: which path is accepted as 'default' for your own compilations?
[03:02] <jmhodges> soundgate, where you want stuff to go
[03:02] <jolt> It might be confusing the AC97 on your motherboard even if its disabled jm
[03:02] <Masqy> and besides, I think I'll have to compile and install both wxvlc, vlc-plugin-alsa and vlc at the same time, or so.
[03:03] <jmhodges> jolt, well, before i disabled it, it had the mobo card as another snd card1
[03:03] <jmhodges> so there were three on the list!
[03:03] <jolt> *eyeroll*.
[03:03] <longwave> Masqy: generally things you compile yourself go in /usr/local, but this may be in your path and may get confused with the other version of vlc (which will have a prefix of /usr)
[03:03] <jmhodges> jolt, cha
[03:03] <Masqy> general question: how do I check if a specifice package is installed in my system ?
[03:03] <longwave> Masqy: dpkg -l packagename
[03:04] <mindjuju> what do i do if I try to install courier-authmysql and I see that i've spelled it right in packages.ubuntu.com but when i type sudo apt-get install courier-authmysql  it says it can't find the package?
[03:04] <longwave> !info courier-authmysql