[05:07] <nalioth> Devi0s: you'd have to ask the packager
[05:08] <MidnightDevil> thanx sproingie, working fine now :)
[05:08] <Dj_AlTeK> hey bob2 i get some wierd errors
[05:08] <bob2> please don't dcc chat me
[05:08] <bob2> just ask in the channel
[05:08] <Dj_AlTeK> sry
[05:09] <Dj_AlTeK> bob2: when im in the cd directory and i run wine setup.exe it will start but at the end it stops and i get: "fixme:msi:ACTION_PerformUIAction UNHANDLED MSI ACTION L'Fatal_Error'" what should I do?
[05:13] <Dj_AlTeK> hey bob2 you there?
[05:13] <Dj_AlTeK> hey nalioth_wrkn
[05:13] <bob2> yes, I am
[05:13] <bob2> that sounds like wine doesn't support this program
[05:13] <JuNkPhreak> well i hope  all 64bit linux distros fix the problem with opengl games like doom3 and Et and othters soon the chroot deal sucks
[05:14] <Dj_AlTeK> >.> thats great
[05:14] <Dj_AlTeK> i just wanted to install hl2 and play cs source
[05:14] <Dj_AlTeK> :*(
[05:14] <bob2> Dj_AlTeK: I'm pretty sure you need cedega for that
[05:14] <mmichelli> how does a person run an install, i downloaded the wireless tools .27 from hp but dont know how to run the install
[05:14] <Dj_AlTeK> ugh i have cedega i just dont know how to install it
[05:14] <bob2> JuNkPhreak: that's highly unlikely to be a "64bit linux distro" problem
[05:14] <mmichelli> tried double clicking
[05:15] <mmichelli> there is a make file in the folder
[05:15] <reka> mmichelli: read the README?
[05:16] <ThE__OnE> nalioth_wrkn, i used sypnatic to install Java
[05:16] <mmichelli> i did, no help that i could see
[05:16] <ThE__OnE> hmm, i installed the java as it said in the website, but my firefox  still wont open java files
[05:16] <nalioth_wrkn> ThE__OnE: so ya got it workin then?
[05:16] <mmichelli> i'll read it again
[05:16] <ThE__OnE> nope
[05:16] <nalioth_wrkn> ThE__OnE: have your you restarted firefox?
[05:16] <ThE__OnE> yes
[05:16] <Dj_AlTeK> bob2: i have Cedega-4.2.1-DEB.3282285.TPB and there is 3 files in there. They are: control.tar.gz, data.tar.gz, and debian-binary
[05:17] <bob2> er
[05:17] <wick2o> hello
[05:17] <bob2> you odn't unpack .debs with karchive or file-roller or whatever you're doing
[05:17] <bob2> Dj_AlTeK: didn't they give you instructions when you bought it?
[05:17] <Dj_AlTeK> bob2: i didnt buy it i got it off of www.thepiratebay.org
[05:17] <bob2> charming
[05:17] <ivanox> then u got the wrong files
[05:17] <patchman> hi. cupsd don't start ...
[05:17] <patchman> * Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd
[05:17] <patchman> cupsd: Child exited with status 99!
[05:18] <wick2o> how compatible with debain is ubuntu?  If i add the debain source list to synaptic will i break anything installing software?
[05:18] <JuNkPhreak> bob2 : been all over the net about issues with installing and running 32bit games with 64bit OS linux
[05:18] <bob2> wick2o: yes, don't do it
[05:18] <nalioth_wrkn> ThE__OnE: have you done this? see step 5 https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingJavaSupport
[05:18] <bob2> JuNkPhreak: yes, of course, you can't easily run mac games on an atari, either
[05:18] <ivanox> Dj_AlTeK, u need the .deb files for cedega in ubuntu
[05:18] <ivanox> just 1 file
[05:18] <patchman> tail -f /var/log/cups/error_log
[05:18] <ivanox> I got it
[05:18] <patchman> E [22/Jun/2005:17:17:26 +0200]  StartListening: Unable to bind socket for address 7f000001:631 - Impossibile assegnare l'indirizzo richiesto.
[05:18] <Dj_AlTeK> i have the .deb
[05:19] <ivanox> so then just install it
[05:19] <patchman> netstat -tnlp
[05:19] <patchman> Active Internet connections (only servers)
[05:19] <patchman> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State       PID/Program name
[05:19] <patchman> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:55556           <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN     7691/rplayd
[05:19] <patchman> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:5900            <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN     7890/vino-server
[05:19] <patchman> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:5556            <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN     7691/rplayd
[05:19] <Dj_AlTeK> cedega_4.2.1-1_i386.deb
[05:19] <ivanox> so install it?
[05:19] <Dj_AlTeK> what command?
[05:19] <patchman> nothing on port 631.
[05:19] <ivanox> omfg
[05:19] <nalioth_wrkn> Dj_AlTeK: so install it
[05:19] <ivanox> if u cannot use it
[05:19] <ivanox> go buy it and get the support
[05:19] <ivanox> damn noobs
[05:19] <Dj_AlTeK> nalioth_wrkn: what command line? chmod?
[05:20] <bob2> patchman: how about "sudo netstat -plunt | grep 631"?
[05:20] <Dj_AlTeK> Fuck off ivanox! its my fuckin 2nd day using linux!
[05:20] <ThE__OnE> nalioth_wrkn, no i have'nt
[05:20] <bob2> ivanox: please stop it
[05:20] <TokenBad> Dj_AlTeK, you didn't use dpkg -i file.deb?
[05:20] <ivanox> and u start warezing stuff on the second day lol
[05:20] <bob2> Dj_AlTeK: chill dude
[05:20] <nalioth_wrkn> Dj_AlTeK: to install deb files, one must use (from the terminal) "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[05:20] <patchman> bob2, nothing
[05:20] <Dj_AlTeK> nalioth_wrkn: thanx
[05:20] <bob2> patchman: that is very weird
[05:20] <bob2> patchman: I assume that error in english was something like "Can't assign requested address"?
[05:21] <RainMoods> hi, I try to use logmein.com to access a remote computer, I use Firefox and all I see is a gray screen with the java logo in it... can y ou help me?
[05:21] <wick2o> bob2: so i cant use debain debs at all? much compile from source?
[05:21] <bob2> wick2o: you can, but it's a bad idea, and will break upgrades
[05:21] <nalioth_wrkn> gotta go to work, y'all
[05:21] <bob2> wick2o: what do you want that isn't in ubuntu already?
[05:22] <nalioth_wrkn> see ya later
[05:22] <bob2> adios, naltioth
[05:22] <wick2o> irssi, and a bunch of other tools
[05:22] <bob2> RainMoods: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:22] <Dj_AlTeK> TokenBad: when i use sudo dpkg -i file.deb i get: errors were incountered while processing: cedega
[05:22] <bob2> wick2o: irssi is in Ubuntu
[05:22] <RainMoods> thanks bob2
[05:22] <patchman> bob2, yes ... but why?
[05:22] <bob2> patchman: I don't know
[05:22] <wick2o> umm didnt see it or other stuff (ethereal,ettercap) in the synaptic list :\
[05:23] <bob2> patchman: what does "uname -r" print out?
[05:23] <wick2o> ill reboot and take another look
[05:23] <wick2o> oh...and joe isnt installed
[05:23] <bob2> wick2o: enable the universe repository; edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:23] <ubuntu_> can anyone help me move files from my hD over a network to another PC?
[05:23] <goldfish_> nfs ?
[05:23] <jbroome> ubuntu_: what OS's are each computer using?
[05:23] <wick2o> k. anx for the info bob2
[05:23] <jbroome> if they're both linux you can SCP
[05:23] <rommer> when are scripts in /etc/cron.monthly run, the first day of the month at 00:00?
[05:23] <ubuntu_> my computer is using the LiveCD, the other computer is using Xp Pro
[05:23] <patchman> bob2, 2.6.10
[05:24] <jbroome> ubuntu_: you're going from xp to live cd box?
[05:24] <TokenBad> Dj_AlTeK, sounds like bad file
[05:24] <TokenBad> cause if getting errors then something is wrong
[05:24] <ubuntu_> jbroome: liveCD to xp
[05:24] <bob2> patchman: that's very odd
[05:25] <Dj_AlTeK> TokenBad: Thanx
[05:25] <TokenBad> what kind of errors?
[05:26] <Dj_AlTeK> its just saying that i dont have libpng3 installed but in spm there's a green box next to it saying its installed
[05:26] <lennart> nti
[05:26] <TokenBad> I went through something like that to..
[05:26] <TokenBad> had to install some files
[05:27] <lennart> where does ubunti store pg_hba.conf for postgresql?
[05:27] <ThE__OnE> nalioth_wrkn, iam afraid that did not work
[05:27] <rommer> when are scripts in /etc/cron.monthly run, the first day of the month at 00:00?
[05:27] <TokenBad> Dj_AlTeK, try this: sudo apt-get install libpng-dev
[05:28] <bob2> lennart: /etc/postgresql/
[05:28] <lennart> thanks
[05:29] <TokenBad> well guess he didn't want the help after all
[05:30] <ThE__OnE> can someone help me? i installed java but firefox wont open java, how can i fix this?
[05:30] <RainMoods> bob2: java issue with logmein is solved, thanks!
[05:31] <patchman> bob2, there is something into the kernel related to CUPS?
[05:31] <RainMoods> ThE__OnE: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:31] <bob2> patchman: no
[05:31] <bob2> patchman: I only asked about your kernel version on a vague guess you were using 2.6.12 or something
[05:31] <ThE__OnE> RainMoods, i follwed everything in method 1 in that page, and thats why i said i installed java package
[05:32] <RainMoods> ah, ThE__OnE...
[05:32] <RainMoods> I am afraid my expertise is not going any further than mentioning that URL
[05:32] <ThE__OnE> =)
[05:32] <RainMoods> but
[05:32] <RainMoods> there's something in ubuntuguide re. java
[05:32] <djtansey> has anyone here ever setup a external USB RAID (mirroring) array? I just lot a lot of data when my maxtor external drive failed. i don't wnat to let that happen again.
[05:33] <RainMoods> one moment
[05:33] <patchman> bob2, ok
[05:33] <RainMoods> here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[05:35] <patchman> root@basso:/usr/src/linux # /usr/sbin/cupsd
[05:35] <patchman> cupsd: Child exited with status 99!
[05:35] <patchman> someone know something?
[05:36] <ThE__OnE> RainMoods, thanks, i will check it out now
[05:37] <RainMoods> ThE__OnE: okay let me know how it goes
[05:37] <black-whisp> is there any way to connect to my windows sata ntfs drive? and coppy some files?
[05:38] <mindspin> check /var/log/cups/err.log
[05:38] <Chadwill> im looking at synaptic here.. and i see a lot of games for KDE..but im using gnome..can i still install the kde games?
[05:38] <Jimbob> Chadwill: yes
[05:38] <Chadwill> will they create entries in the start menu?
[05:38] <RainMoods> black-whisp: yes there is a way to connect to a ntfs drive
[05:39] <RainMoods> but I do not know what sata is
[05:39] <Jimbob> Chadwill: They should
[05:39] <black-whisp> sata serial ata hardisk
[05:39] <DunkMaster> hallo
[05:40] <RainMoods> black-whisp: try this:http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[05:40] <DunkMaster> i have a Q
[05:40] <DunkMaster> :P
[05:40] <DunkMaster> i installed enlightenment
[05:40] <DunkMaster> but its not in session menu
[05:40] <DunkMaster> so i cant boot it
[05:40] <DunkMaster> i installed all enlightenment components from Synaptic
[05:40] <ThE__OnE> RainMoods, it did'nt work =/
[05:41] <DunkMaster> but still not working
[05:41] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Go to Applications->System Tools->Configuration Editor
[05:41] <DunkMaster> whats next Jimbob
[05:41] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Then navigate to "/desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager"
[05:42] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Change the value of "current" to "/usr/bin/enlightenment"
[05:42] <jpatota> i just installed 3ddesk and wanted to know what the best method of keymapping is
[05:42] <jpatota> like if i wanted to switch desktops with control+right or left
[05:42] <jpatota> where do i set that up
[05:42] <DunkMaster> ok
[05:42] <sig> anyone know if dvdstyler will be added to the repo's anytime soon?
[05:43] <DunkMaster> Jimbob
[05:43] <DunkMaster> i need to reboot now?
[05:43] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: No
[05:43] <black-whisp> RainMoods: thx
[05:43] <DunkMaster> just ctrl alt backspac
[05:43] <DunkMaster> ?
[05:43] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Open System->Preferences->Sessions
[05:43] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Remove the "metacity" entry in "Current Session"
[05:43] <RainMoods> ThE__OnE: I know this is not gonna help you, but I am having problems with java on one machine, while the other PC (a clean install) is working great
[05:44] <RainMoods> black-whisp: np
[05:44] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Then hit CTRL+ALT+F2 and run /usr/bin/enlightenment
[05:44] <DunkMaster> Jimbob, i need to swithc to gnome
[05:44] <ThE__OnE> hehe
[05:44] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Erm, sorry, ALT+F2
[05:44] <ThE__OnE> i will reboot a little later, and see if that hhelps
[05:44] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Are you using KDE?
[05:44] <DunkMaster> XFCe
[05:45] <RainMoods> So now I am trying to get all my stuff in a back-up so I can do a new fresh install here on this PC
[05:45] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Oh.
[05:45] <reka> jpatota: that still uses gnome right?
[05:45] <Danar> how come nvu isn't in the repository?
[05:45] <RainMoods> ah..reboot solution. That's sooo win95!
[05:45] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Dunno how XFCE handles window manager selection.
[05:45] <ThE__OnE> last resort
[05:45] <DunkMaster> ill switch to gnome
[05:45] <DunkMaster> will brb
[05:46] <RainMoods> OK bye all
[05:46] <jpatota> reka, yeah if i can stay with gnome that would be good
[05:46] <alexmacy> re
[05:46] <patchman> mindspin, cat /var/log/cups/error_log
[05:46] <reka> jpatota: try sys->pref ->k/b shortcuts
[05:46] <alexmacy> i'm looking for a GPL equivalent of visualroute, any idea?
[05:46] <patchman> I [22/Jun/2005:17:35:07 +0200]  Listening to 7f000001:631
[05:46] <patchman> I [22/Jun/2005:17:35:07 +0200]  Loaded configuration file "/etc/cups/cupsd.conf"
[05:46] <patchman> I [22/Jun/2005:17:35:07 +0200]  Configured for up to 100 clients.
[05:46] <patchman> I [22/Jun/2005:17:35:07 +0200]  Allowing up to 100 client connections per host.
[05:46] <patchman> I [22/Jun/2005:17:35:07 +0200]  Full reload is required.
[05:46] <patchman> I [22/Jun/2005:17:35:07 +0200]  LoadPPDs: Read "/etc/cups/ppds.dat", 2348 PPDs...
[05:46] <patchman> I [22/Jun/2005:17:35:07 +0200]  LoadPPDs: No new or changed PPDs...
[05:46] <patchman> I [22/Jun/2005:17:35:07 +0200]  Full reload complete.
[05:47] <patchman> E [22/Jun/2005:17:35:07 +0200]  StartListening: Unable to bind socket for address 7f000001:631 - Impossibile assegnare l'indirizzo richiesto.
[05:47] <mindspin> cpatchman you#re right
[05:47] <KarlosII> waaa your still inthe win95 era
[05:47] <patchman> mindspin, ?
[05:47] <mindspin> patchman i dont understand the italian part ;-)
[05:48] <mindspin> how did you configure cups ?
[05:48] <likkashot> what do I need to install to listen to mp3's
[05:48] <patchman> mindspin, means: unable to assigne the required address.
[05:48] <mindspin> i know was just kiddin
[05:48] <reka> likkashot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:49] <mindspin> I'm using kde so maybe I can't help really
[05:49] <jpatota> reka, i looked there before but is there a way to add customized shortcuts to that
[05:50] <reka> jpatota: yes.
[05:50] <mindspin> patchman and moreover, i print via samba on my partners printer
[05:50] <reka> jpatota: click on the shortcut, and you can change it
[05:51] <reka> jpatota: the two you're looking for are at the bottom
[05:51] <patchman> mindspin, and if I have no partners? ... :-)
[05:52] <reka> patchman: use mindspin's. :-P
[05:52] <mindspin> in kde you have to define which protocol to use .I'm sure there's something similiar in gnome
[05:52] <Danar> alexmacy: http://www.caida.org/tools/visualization/gtrace/
[05:52] <mindspin> samba over internet haha
[05:52] <patchman> :-\
[05:52] <mindspin> hows your printer connected?
[05:53] <patchman> mindspin, via ethernet
[05:53] <Chadwill> any advice on where to get linux games for kids? ive tried some google without luck..i want some freeware
[05:53] <reka> Chadwill: synaptic sectioning. :-)
[05:53] <AlwaysModest> sourceforge.net
[05:53] <m0r0n> E: Package mplayer-k6 has no installation candidate??? What does that mean? I ve read the howto for mplayer https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MplayerInstallHowto. My PC has got an AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+
[05:53] <ntoll> Chadwill, GCompris, TuxPaint, CircusLinux are all in Ubuntu universe
[05:54] <mindspin> and which protocol do you use smb? tcp ?
[05:54] <mindspin> ipp?
[05:54] <reka> m0r0n: it can't find the package in the repo list
[05:54] <Capeo> hi..
[05:55] <mindspin> when cups cannot bind adress to socket it could be a misconfiguration in those settings
[05:55] <m0r0n> reka, all repositories are activated, hm
[05:55] <reka> m0r0n: apt-get update
[05:56] <sjefen__> anyone who can help me with some questions?
[05:57] <bob2> best to just ask
[05:58] <sjefen__> ok, I installed ubuntu on a computer, but while loading gnuk, error 18 occurs
[05:58] <sjefen__> what can I do?
[05:58] <bob2> you need to show us the whole error
[05:58] <bob2> in #flood
[05:58] <spiderworm> OH SHIT!  NOT ERROR 18??!!!!
[05:58] <spiderworm> hehehe sorry
[05:59] <sjefen__> I'm completely new in linux.. hehe.. what do I do to show you the whole message?
[05:59] <spiderworm> sjefen__: first type /join #flood
[05:59] <AlwaysModest> lol spiderworm
[05:59] <spiderworm> then copy and paste the message in there
[05:59] <spiderworm> you know, control+c, control+v
[06:00] <sjefen__> yeah that's not the problem
[06:00] <sjefen__> Ok, we'll take it in flood
[06:01] <DunkMaster> back
[06:01] <DunkMaster> and it didnt work
[06:02] <dex3ter> hello
[06:03] <DunkMaster> ok, is there any way to add Enlightenment to sessions menu?
[06:03] <DunkMaster> so i can boot it up
[06:03] <dex3ter> plz..could anybody help me with running SCILAB in UBUNTU?
[06:03] <bionic> Are  there any WineX packages for ubuntu 5.04?
[06:03] <bob2> dex3ter: you need to ask a question, first...
[06:04] <fRanCo> Compatability with installing ubuntu using vmware?
[06:05] <dex3ter> ok...i can't make SCILAB running after installing it from the repostory
[06:05] <reka> bionic: i think people use cedega for games
[06:06] <bionic> okay, whats the package search function? apt-get install cedega, no such package
[06:06] <flugh> apt-cache search foo
[06:07] <bionic> ait locstah :p
[06:08] <mbruemmer> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ladspa-sdk_1.1-2_powerpc.deb: try /usr/include/ladspa.h to overwrite, which is also a package in  ladspa-devel
[06:08] <mbruemmer> sorry for the not exactly translation of the errormassage
[06:08] <bob2> mbruemmer: are both those packages from ubuntu?
[06:08] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: In /etc/gdm/Sessions, just copy/paste the Xfce one to Enlightenment
[06:09] <DunkMaster> ok Jimbob
[06:09] <DunkMaster> will try
[06:09] <mbruemmer> bob2 no it was alien'ed and dpkg'ed
[06:09] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: And edit it so it runs enlightenment instead of xfce
[06:09] <bob2> mbruemmer: there you go, that was a terrible idea
[06:09] <mbruemmer> can i make it reverse?
[06:10] <bob2> just stop installing it
[06:10] <mbruemmer> bob2 i need it
[06:10] <bob2> no, you don't
[06:10] <bob2> do you mean "I want the LADSPA headers"?
[06:10] <mbruemmer> for a sequencer called rosegarden
[06:10] <bob2> dude
[06:10] <bob2> rosegarden is also in ubuntu already
[06:10] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Sorry, I was mistaken
[06:11] <reka> bionic: not in the repos. i think it's a subscription service: http://www.transgaming.com/
[06:11] <mbruemmer> bob2 :is not working for my ibook
[06:11] <mbruemmer> bob2 :i need only a new header????
[06:11] <bob2> mbruemmer: you mean you installed it usign apt or synaptic, and it didn't work?
[06:11] <bddebian> Hello
[06:12] <bob2> start over and tell us what your initial goal was
[06:12] <bddebian> Does anyone know where the framework for fork/derivitive distro's is kept?
[06:12] <bionic> reka, yeah looks like it cost money, thanks though
[06:12] <mbruemmer> bob2; for rosegarden yes, it was installed by synaptic
[06:12] <bob2> mbruemmer: and what happened?
[06:13] <ThE__OnE> how do i run this command every midnight? updatedb
[06:13] <mbruemmer> bob2: the sequencer wont start
[06:13] <bob2> ThE__OnE: it's already run automatically
[06:13] <bob2> mbruemmer: why do you think recompiling will help?
[06:13] <jmazaredo> when backing up what important directories should i consider an what i should't
[06:13] <ThE__OnE> oh ok
[06:14] <DunkMaster> Jimbob
[06:14] <DunkMaster> what im supposed to do
[06:14] <mbruemmer> bob2: why recompilling it was a bin package (if we are talking 'bout rosegdn,)
[06:15] <bob2> mbruemmer: so why are you installing the ladspa headers?
[06:15] <zyth> bionic, yeah, $5/month I think
[06:15] <mbruemmer> because it will be use by rsgdn
[06:16] <bob2> ok
[06:16] <bob2> you seem a bit confused
[06:16] <bob2> rosegarden the binary does not care about ladspa headers
[06:16] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: I'm figuring it out now :-)
[06:16] <DunkMaster> lol
[06:16] <DunkMaster> ok
[06:16] <mbruemmer> bob2   but why the sequencer will not start??
[06:17] <bob2> mbruemmer: I dont know, I'd assume because you didn't setup midi for your card
[06:17] <thechitowncubs> in order to apply a patch to a kernel, what packages do i need to get to recompile it?
[06:17] <mbruemmer> bob2 how do i?
[06:17] <DunkMaster> Jimbob
[06:17] <bob2> thechitowncubs: what patch?
[06:17] <thechitowncubs> bob2: Smart Battery
[06:18] <DunkMaster> maybe i should try to change /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[06:18] <bob2> thechitowncubs: and linux-source-2.6.10, kernel-package, fakeroot and build-essential
[06:18] <DunkMaster> from usr/bin/gdm to /usr/bin/enlightenment?
[06:19] <mbruemmer> bob2 : are there any apps to do so?
[06:19] <thechitowncubs> bob2: thanks, I'll let you know how it goes
[06:19] <bob2> mbruemmer: I doubt it
[06:19] <bob2> mbruemmer: I'd just install timidity
[06:19] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: No
[06:20] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: That'll break things badly
[06:20] <DunkMaster> oh
[06:20] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: In /etc/dm/Sessions
[06:20] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: copy xfce4.desktop to e.desktop
[06:20] <mbruemmer> bob2:and thats the point of all i want to install it and then it errors w/t massage above
[06:21] <bob2> mbruemmer: so get rid of ladspa-devel
[06:21] <bob2> and don't use alien again
[06:21] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: edit e.desktop to say "Enlightenment" instead of "Xfce Session", and change the "Exec=startxcfe4" line to "Exec=enlightenment"
[06:21] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Then try that -- you can test it by going to "Applications->System Tools->New login in a nested window"
[06:22] <mbruemmer> bob2: excuse me i nativly speak german what does it mean ?
[06:22] <mbruemmer> bob2: what is get rid?
[06:22] <DunkMaster> ok
[06:22] <DunkMaster> danke
[06:22] <mindspin> etwas loswerden
[06:22] <bob2> mbruemmer: remove?
[06:22] <bob2> mbruemmer: #ubuntu-de might be a better place to ask for help?
[06:22] <mindspin> mbruemmer etwas loswerden
[06:23] <thomerz> PLEASE DON'T USE BREEZY YET -- REALLY <<<- why this?
[06:23] <|Ivanch0|> naz
[06:23] <bob2> thomerz: because it's not ready for general users yet
[06:23] <goldfish_> it's very unstable?
[06:23] <mbruemmer> bob2: oh i dont know the syn. for remove. so i learned today a new word THANK you
[06:23] <bob2> e.g. some people's keyboards don't work in ubuntu at all
[06:23] <bob2> mbruemmer: hah, you're welcome
[06:23] <bob2> er, s/ubuntu/X/
[06:24] <mindspin> mbruemmer it#s not remove its mor like what I'd said
[06:24] <gek> whats the easiest way to burn an audio cd?
[06:24] <Nephaestous> growisofs?
[06:24] <gek> without installing k3b (i dont want kde on my system)
[06:25] <Nephaestous> you don't need kde for k3b
[06:25] <mbruemmer> bob2: do i get off it? with dpkg?
[06:25] <thechitowncubs> bob2: if i copy my current config into /usr/src/linux/.config and do make oldconfig after i apply the patch will that configure the kernel how the previous one was?
[06:25] <Nephaestous> just some libs
[06:25] <goldfish_> anyone know of any command line torrent clients for ubuntu ?
[06:25] <bob2> growisofs does audio cds?
[06:25] <bob2> goldfish_: bittornado, then btdownloadcurses foo.torrent
[06:25] <bob2> thechitowncubs: yes
[06:25] <DunkMaster> Jimbob
[06:25] <bob2> thechitowncubs: but then you need to build it with make-kpkg --initrd
[06:25] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Yo
[06:26] <thechitowncubs> why is that?
[06:26] <Nephaestous> bob2: no
[06:26] <DunkMaster> no such thing as xfce4.desktop in /etc/gdm/sessions
[06:26] <DunkMaster> sorry
[06:26] <Jimbob> DunkMaster: Yeah, no "g"
[06:26] <Nephaestous> gek: try gnomemaker
[06:26] <Jimbob>  /etc/dm/Sessions
[06:26] <Nephaestous> oh, gnomebaker
[06:26] <bob2> thechitowncubs: because the default config makes things like ext2 modular, so you won't be able to boot if you don't have an initrd
[06:27] <drspin> why won't my CD drive eject?
[06:27] <Jimbob> drspin: Something is using it
[06:27] <thechitowncubs> gotcha, thanks for the help
[06:27] <bob2> drspin: is it mounted? right click on the cd icon the desktop and select unmount
[06:27] <drspin> Jimbob: not at all -- and it's not mounted "/dev/hdd is not mounted according to mtab"
[06:27] <DunkMaster> Jimbob, ill rename the Xfce Session to e?
[06:28] <bob2> hrm, weird
[06:28] <bob2> drspin: does "sudo eject /dev/hdd" work?
[06:28] <drspin> bob2: nope
[06:28] <DunkMaster> sudo eject /mnt/hdd
[06:28] <bob2> that is very weird
[06:28] <bob2> drspin: anything interesting at the end of "dmesg"?
[06:29] <justin> bob2: not really, lots of other things an optical disk can be used for that don't involve mounting
[06:29] <bob2> justin: hm, but do any of them run automatically on ubuntu?
[06:29] <drspin> yes -> # flood please
[06:30] <goldfish_> bob2: thanks.
[06:30] <DunkMaster> Jimbob, thanx alot, but i have to go
[06:30] <DunkMaster> ill be back tomorrow
[06:31] <drspin> WTF -- I thought you could flood #flood and not get disconnected :/
[06:31] <jbroome> hahahah
[06:31] <al_> hello
[06:31] <thechitowncubs> In the Smart Batter patch readme: I don't understand this step, can someone help me out? Ensure that you have Intel's iasl compiler installed somewhere in
[06:31] <thechitowncubs>    your PATH. The compiler can be downloaded from
[06:31] <bob2> drspin: that just means your irc client is crap ;)
[06:31] <DunkMaster> ok, byez
[06:31] <bob2> thechitowncubs: er, that's whack
[06:31] <al_> someone has a solution for the ibook g3 sleep problem ?
[06:31] <bob2> al_: kill hal
[06:32] <thechitowncubs> it gives me the download link, but on the intel page it says that ACPI CA is in the linux kernel after 2.4
[06:32] <drspin> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/168
[06:32] <auk> bob2: hal?
[06:32] <thechitowncubs> does that mean the compiler is built in?
[06:32] <thechitowncubs> to later kernels...
[06:32] <bob2> thechitowncubs: where's this patch from?
[06:32] <al_> bob2, afair i already tried this
[06:32] <xxtreme> bob 2= when I'm in irssi and I see a user with mp3 file, how do I get that file from him.
[06:32] <auk> as in the book...
[06:32] <auk> ?
[06:32] <bob2> al_: make sure
[06:32] <al_> hehe
[06:32] <bob2> auk: there's a daemon called "hal" nowadays
[06:33] <bob2> xxtreme: ask them to put it on an ftp server for you
[06:33] <auk> and how do you keep it form runnign on statrup?
[06:33] <thechitowncubs> https://sourceforge.net/projects/sbs-linux/
[06:33] <xxtreme> thankx
[06:33] <truz24> What do you do in ubuntu to load raid drivers ?
[06:33] <truz24> on install
[06:33] <bob2> xxtreme: or /help dcc
[06:34] <bob2> truz24: it should detect all real raid cards by default
[06:34] <bob2> auk: hal? hrm, I'm not sure; dbus runs it.
[06:34] <mbruemmer> hello how to deinstall with dpkg
[06:35] <thechitowncubs> iasl -d dsdt.dat  (that is what i have to do with iasl
[06:35] <bob2> thechitowncubs: this is getting into heavy hackery
[06:35] <bob2> modifying your dsdt can be dangerous, I think
[06:36] <tehmasp> mbruemmer, dpkg -r
[06:36] <thechitowncubs> bob2: hehe, It doesn't seem that complex, if only i can get iasl compiler
[06:36] <tehmasp> mbruemmer, there are some nice examples in 'man dpkg'
[06:36] <thechitowncubs> bob2: I'm keeping a backup kernel just in case
[06:36] <bob2> thechitowncubs: it's not complex, but dsdt is kinda part of your bios, and this thing wants to patch it
[06:36] <basti> hello
[06:37] <thechitowncubs> bob2: right...
[06:37] <bob2> which would scare me
[06:37] <auk> basti: hi?
[06:37] <basti> why a ?
[06:37] <thechitowncubs> bob2: as long as i have a backup it doesn't scare me
[06:37] <bob2> thechitowncubs: you have a backup of your bios?
[06:38] <bob2> thechitowncubs: http://developer.intel.com/technology/iapc/acpi/downloads.htm
[06:38] <thechitowncubs> um, no
[06:38] <drspin> It's really annoying that everytime I use my CD Drives I have to restart my computer --
[06:38] <thechitowncubs> it's not modifying the bios, its modifying the files that get info from the bios
[06:38] <bob2> thechitowncubs: anyway, that's where you can get iasl from
[06:38] <justin> drspin: use how?
[06:38] <thechitowncubs> the bios has to be flashed with a utility
[06:39] <al_> bob2, i try. amen.
[06:39] <basti> how can I uninstall NForce Audio Drivers, OSS and ALSA?
[06:39] <thechitowncubs> bob2: I know, i've been trying to compile it... i'll keep trying but..
[06:39] <drspin> justin -- well I put a CD in -- let it mount -- do what I need to do with it -- right click -- eject -- doesn't eject --
[06:40] <drspin> sudo eject /dev/hdd doesn't eject it
[06:40] <justin> drspin: why not?
[06:40] <drspin> justin: if I knew that answer to that I'd be much better off
[06:41] <bob2> thechitowncubs: ok, according to someone who knows entirely too much about ACPI, it's a terrible hack
[06:41] <bob2> but I think it'll be ok
[06:41] <justin> drspin: why does the eject program say that it can not eject the cdrom?
[06:41] <thechitowncubs> bob2: can you ask that person if anything special is needed to compile the IASL compiler
[06:42] <bob2> thechitowncubs: is opinion of modifying the dsdt at all (which is what you're doing) is "fucking stupid", so I don't think he's done it before :-)
[06:42] <tehmasp> hi, i'm trying to get my orinoco card working, there appears to be modules already in the modules directory, pcmcia-cs is installed, and when i insert the card all i get in /var/log/messages is '...kernel: cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean.' . The only info. on the net is for patching the drivers for rfmon support which i don't need atm, so i'm assuming it's supposed to work out of the box?  any help appreciated. thanks
[06:42] <drspin> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/168
[06:42] <thechitowncubs> lol, ya, well its the only way for now to get the battery status to work
[06:42] <justin> tehmasp: what does cardctl ident say?
[06:43] <drspin> justin: it doesn't -- it just sits there...
[06:43] <drspin> *yawn*
[06:43] <justin> drspin: you mean it hangs?
[06:43] <drspin> how can I issue a reset on that IDE channel?
[06:43] <thechitowncubs> aslcompiler.l:847: error: `yytext_ptr' undeclared (first use in this function)
[06:43] <thechitowncubs> thats the error i get if that helps at all
[06:44] <Seveas> hello people and other beings :)
[06:44] <Seveas> thechitowncubs, aptitude install flex bison
[06:44] <chrissturm> seveas :)
[06:44] <thechitowncubs> wow really?
[06:44] <drspin> justin: yes
[06:44] <thechitowncubs> that was easy
[06:44] <Seveas> thechitowncubs, what exactly are you compiling?
[06:44] <tehmasp> justin, it finds it , Socket 0 \ product info: Lucent...' \ manfid: '...' \ function: 6 (network)
[06:44] <thechitowncubs> IASL compiler
[06:44] <Seveas> i mean. it's makefile sucks
[06:44] <Seveas> since this stage should not be reached without bison and flex...
[06:45] <justin> tehmasp: the parts that you replaced with ... are the actual useful parts
[06:45] <thechitowncubs> alright, that didn't work...
[06:45] <Seveas> hmm
[06:45] <Seveas> where did you get it from? i'll try it...
[06:46] <al_> hmm
[06:46] <thechitowncubs> I was searching the forums... and this is what they said: Hint: in order to compile iasl compiler from intel you need the package flex-old (instead of flex) as the web mentioned above points.
[06:46] <thechitowncubs> so i guess i'll try it
[06:46] <Seveas> hmm, ok, so the thing really sucks ;)
[06:47] <bob2> oh, wow
[06:47] <bob2> yay intel
[06:47] <Seveas> what bob2?
[06:47] <thechitowncubs> its working :)
[06:47] <bob2> Seveas: thechitowncubs is compiling some terrible intel code
[06:47] <tehmasp> justin, Socket 0 \ product info: "Lucent Tech.", "WaveLAN/IEEE", "Version 01.01", "" \ manfid: 0x0156, 0x0002 \ function: 6 (network)
[06:47] <Seveas> ah
[06:47] <thechitowncubs> lol
[06:47] <Seveas> Intel ASsembly Language?
[06:48] <bob2> it's some acpi thing, it compiles down to DSDTs
[06:48] <justin> tehmasp: that's listed in /etc/pcmcia/config as card "Intersil PRISM2 11 Mbps Wireless Adapter", manfid 0x0156, 0x0002, so it should work
[06:48] <justin> tehmasp: it should load orinoco_cs for you when you plug it in
[06:48] <thechitowncubs> well it sucessfully disassembled my dsdt
[06:49] <drspin> justin: bob2: any ideas how I can get this CD to eject?
[06:49] <goldfish_> !java
[06:49] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[06:49] <tehmasp> justin, yeah, orinoco_cs , and orinoco are loaded, just checked , sorry, but is there some config. i have to set up then, because if i do 'ifup eth1' it says interface unknown
[06:49] <justin> tehmasp: what does ifconfig -a or iwconfig say?
[06:49] <bob2> drspin: anything from "lsof | grep hdd"?
[06:50] <fetman> I need help with tv-out!
[06:50] <drspin> bob2: no --
[06:50] <bob2> drspin: I don't know then, sorry
[06:50] <drspin> bob2: I treid it with grep cdrom as well and nothing
[06:50] <drspin> bob2: did you look at my paste?
[06:51] <drspin> bob2: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/168
[06:51] <bob2> you didn't paste anything anywhere
[06:51] <bob2> bah
[06:51] <tehmasp> justin, ifconfig -a has an entry for eth1 , likewise for iwconfig
[06:51] <bob2> drspin: the kernel is very confused about that device
[06:52] <signius> man my hard drives are cooking in this heat
[06:52] <drspin> bob2: could it have something to do with my hdparm settings?
[06:52] <bob2> drspin: could do
[06:52] <signius> just got home from work they running at 47 degress
[06:52] <bob2> drspin: forcing dma on could do that
[06:52] <cassie> hello
[06:52] <cassie> i have version 5.04, is it easy to put apache?
[06:52] <justin> tehmasp: then it is working, use the network settings program or edit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:52] <al_> bob2, stopping hald/dbus didn't change anything
[06:52] <Seveas> cassie, VERY easy :)
[06:53] <bob2> al_: well, that's the only bug I know of
[06:53] <al_> bob2, when i wake up the ibook it halts after two or three seconds
[06:53] <tehmasp> justin, just that there is no valid ip address, and when i try to bring it up it doesn't find the interface
[06:53] <tehmasp> justin, ok, let me check that file
[06:53] <drspin> bob2: /sbin/hdparm -d1c1X66 /dev/hdd
[06:53] <bob2> drspin: er, ok
[06:53] <Seveas> cassie, please ask before sending private messages...
[06:53] <bob2> al_: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1940
[06:54] <cassie> Seveas, may i please pm u
[06:54] <Seveas> bob2, heh, for me hibernating sucked too :)
[06:54] <bob2> worked out of the box for me
[06:54] <Seveas> I got only the bottom half of my GUI back and the system hanged :)
[06:54] <bob2> with swsusp on hoary?
[06:54] <Seveas> yes
[06:55] <Seveas> but upgraded from warty
[06:55] <bob2> that should work everywhere, aside from using the nvidia driver
[06:55] <bob2> with the hoary kernel?
[06:55] <Seveas> cassie, not needed, apache can simply be installed with synaptic
[06:55] <Seveas> bob2, yes, and ATI drivers
[06:55] <thechitowncubs> Hunk #1 FAILED at 3255.
[06:55] <thechitowncubs> Hunk #2 FAILED at 3283.
[06:55] <thechitowncubs> Hunk #3 succeeded at 4686 with fuzz 1 (offset -241 lines).
[06:55] <thechitowncubs> that looks like a problem to me
[06:55] <bob2> ah, binary at idrivers?
[06:55] <Seveas> l-r-m package, but yes the binary ones
[06:55] <bob2> thechitowncubs: the patch is not for your kernel version
[06:56] <thechitowncubs> bob2: haha, thanks, simple mistake
[06:56] <Seveas> so I guess ATI drivers suck wrt swsusp too?
[06:56] <bob2> I didn't think so, but they'd be the first thing I'd try disabling
[06:56] <thechitowncubs> bob2: oh wait, so do I have to downgrade?
[06:56] <Seveas> I'll try later
[06:56] <Seveas> thanks
[06:57] <xvlun> Seveas, yeas they fuck up every kind of suspend
[06:57] <cassie> well where can i go to learn about ubuntu
[06:57] <goldfish_> cassie: you got it installed?
[06:57] <xvlun> thats a known problem ati hasn't fixed for about 2 years
[06:57] <bob2> thechitowncubs: how much do you care about this patch?
[06:58] <cassie> no
[06:58] <matjan_> hi, is there anyone using DSL? if so, what modem are you using? i need to find one that's compatible with ubuntu (ir linux in general)...
[06:58] <cassie> i have ubuntu installed
[06:58] <cassie> but like adding stuff
[06:58] <goldfish_> cassie: install it and use it :)
[06:58] <nubbe> Is ubuntuguide.org still more or less foolproof(, it's getting big)? I've had trouble with gstreamer stuff. Anyone got an informed opinion? I would have been in a world of hurt without that page, tho....
[06:58] <thechitowncubs> bob2: well, i guess i just wanted to try to get it working, but its not really necessary
[06:58] <bob2> nubbe: some of the stuff is rather silly, it seems to mostly be good
[06:58] <Seveas> nubbe, ubuntuguide is foolish rather than foolproof
[06:59] <nubbe> :)
[06:59] <thechitowncubs> Seveas: why do you bash the ubuntuguide so much?
[06:59] <tehmasp> justin, Yay! , it's working, thanks a lot man!
[06:59] <Seveas> nubbe, the wiki contains better information (it actually contains information rather than listings of instructions)
[06:59] <nubbe> it's not only foolish, it's awesome too!!!
[07:00] <cassie> where can i get win4lin
[07:00] <thechitowncubs> Ya, I've grown to like the wiki too :)
[07:00] <nubbe> I'll check the wiki better, but for a noob, it's the best FAQ-like page I ever seen, for anytinh
[07:00] <thechitowncubs> they are both helpful
[07:01] <basti> no idea?
[07:02] <madsen> Hmm, I lost a link... Somebody gave me a link to a thread at ubuntuforums.org about installing Battle for Wesnoth 0.9.2, but I can't seem to google it up again. :( Anyone?
[07:04] <wolverian> madsen: the forums have a search page, don't they?
[07:04] <rronkiv> is linux nicer to a laptop then windows?
[07:04] <xxtreme_> bob2 = any idea how to configure pine with gmail
[07:04] <bob2> xxtreme_: why would you use pine with gmail?
[07:04] <bddebian> rronkiv: Depends on what you mean by nicer
[07:05] <rronkiv> like more energy efecent and speedwise
[07:05] <madsen> wolverian: I can't find it. :O
[07:05] <xxtreme_> bob2 good question, i just like pine overall
[07:05] <madsen> wolverian: I've found the link... :)
[07:05] <bob2> xxtreme_: I don't know if pine does pop
[07:06] <bob2> xxtreme_: or if gmail does smtp
[07:06] <bddebian> rronkiv: I suppose as with everything else, the answer is: it depends. :-)  Generally speaking, I would say yes though
[07:06] <Seveas> gmail does only pop3s and smtps
[07:06] <xxtreme_> they both do, maybe i can setup fetchmail, just dont know how!!!!!!!!
[07:06] <rronkiv> ok thanks.
[07:07] <bob2> xxtreme_: install fetchmailconf
[07:08] <xxtreme_> bob2_ ok, im doing it now
[07:11] <rafcyk> join #kalisz
[07:12] <WeirdAl> Does anyone know a) cedega CVS or b) where to ask?
[07:13] <WeirdAl> I realise this isn't a particularly ubuntu problem but this is the only place I know to ask :-\
[07:13] <bob2> try #cedega
[07:13] <WeirdAl> Oh, on this server?
[07:13] <Elko> I got a md0 /boot, md1 / and an mdX for some PVs in a vg0 that forms /usr, /var and /home on one of my machines, how do I tell the ubuntu installer to activate the md and lvm configurations?
[07:14] <unome> I don't like Ubuntu, can I have my money back now?
[07:14] <bob2> WeirdAl: yes
[07:14] <WeirdAl> Woot. thanks bob2
[07:14] <bob2> unome: sure
[07:14] <unome> :p
[07:14] <djm62> unome: cash or cheque?
[07:14] <unome> djm62: just gimme
[07:15] <Elko> where does the installer create a mountpoint when it installs the base system is all I need to know really, so I can mount things there myself
[07:15] <bob2> Elko: /target
[07:15] <djm62> Elko: the command mount will list all mounted filesystems and mount points
[07:15] <Elko> /target/{usr,etc} etc?
[07:16] <jMi> Anyone know which packages implement hardware automounting - I think I'm missing one or more.
[07:16] <bob2> except /etc will always be on the root filesystem, yeah
[07:16] <bob2> jMi: install the ubuntu-base package, or, better still, ubuntu-desktop
[07:17] <Flying-Penguin> is ubuntu mouse in /dev/mouse or /dev/input/mice???
[07:18] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: the latter, usually
[07:18] <jMi> bob2: Both are already installed
[07:18] <bob2> jMi: then you have it all
[07:18] <bob2> unless someone rm'd files manually
[07:19] <Flying-Penguin> bob2: what do you mean the latter?
[07:19] <jMi> bob2: No it's a fresh installation. Work Ubuntu PC handles auto mounting OK, home one doesn't
[07:19] <bob2> Flying-Penguin: the latter option you said, ie /dev/input/mice
[07:23] <husher> has anyone here upgraded horay to breezy?
[07:23] <virtuald> yes, everything is broken.
[07:23] <ccc> anyone know an app for ripping (for instance) realmedia streams?
[07:23] <bob2> ccc: mplayer -streamdump
[07:24] <husher> virtuald: were you responding to me?
[07:24] <virtuald> yes
[07:25] <abeliko> hola
[07:25] <bartekp> hi
[07:25] <abeliko> alguien me puede echar una mano?
[07:25] <ccc> bob2: allright. but i don't know how to do it since it's on an mms:// protocol.
[07:25] <husher> virtuald: can you be more specific?
[07:26] <djm62> abeliko: #ubuntu-es might be better ;)
[07:26] <bob2> ccc: mplayer -streamdump mms://bldshlkjfsahdlskjh
[07:26] <ccc> bob2: oh, that simple. :) thanks.
[07:27] <abeliko> hi
[07:27] <keffo> what app do you guys use to view a DVD (file on harddrive)
[07:27] <abeliko> is there anyone?
[07:27] <BlueT_> ccc: mimms could do it too :)
[07:27] <zerokills> keffo: VLC
[07:27] <Remog> what are the min system requirements for Ubuntu
[07:27] <virtuald> husher: they're chainging paths for lots of x stuff from /usr/X11R6/ to /usr/bin/X11. and my xmms makes a bad noise after some hours (might be something with the crossfade plugin)
[07:28] <cassie> whats a good html editor and image editor for ubuntu?
[07:28] <bockman> cassie, i hear good things about nvu for html editing
[07:28] <husher> cassie: html - vim
[07:28] <bockman> and i always use the gimp for images
[07:28] <djm62> abeliko: this is an english-speaking room, people are happy to help if you ask in english.  /join #ubuntu-es for a spanish-speaking room
[07:29] <husher> cassie: bockman's right - gimp for images
[07:29] <cassie> ok
[07:29] <cassie> thanks
[07:29] <concept10> matjan_, are you still there?
[07:30] <cassie> www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:30] <Abnix> is there a way using the ubuntu live cd to force a screen resolution at the boot prompt?
[07:30] <matjan_> concept10: yes
[07:30] <uc50ic4more> does anyone here know how I can batch encode several .wav files to FLAC? In windows, FLAC had several "front end" GUI's that made batch encoding a drag & drop affair... From the command line in Ubuntu, however, I cannot figure out how to batch anything; only one file at a time
[07:31] <Suepahfly> This is a like 'ubuntu helpdesk' right ?
[07:31] <husher> virtuald: so would you reccomend against it?
[07:31] <joseph> Any suggestions to get shoutcast to work with rythmbox?
[07:31] <concept10> matjan_, there are plenty of dsl modems that work in linux.  My sister uses the 1800HG from 2wire that comes with sbc dsl
[07:31] <virtuald> husher: yes. i would downgrade if i could :)
[07:31] <husher> Suepahfly: more or less
[07:31] <concept10> joseph, use streamtuner
[07:32] <Cybermagellan> Does anyone have the Ubuntu logo in .svg?
[07:32] <joseph> concept, how do I get streamtuner? can I apt-get that?
[07:32] <matjan_> concept10: thanks for the tip
[07:32] <Dj_AlTeK> hey how do i remove a directory in root terminal?
[07:32] <djm62> uc50ic4more: for i in *.wav; do <flac-encode command>; done;
[07:32] <joseph> I think the problem is the mpeg not being able to play.
[07:32] <uc50ic4more> djm62 - THX - I will give it a shot
[07:32] <concept10> joseph, apt-get install streamtuner (best thing since sliced bread)
[07:32] <joseph> Odd that the standard ubuntu doesn't play mpeg audio.
[07:32] <mjr> uc50ic4more, for file in *.wav ; do flacenc -o "`basename $file .wav`.flac" $file ; done , or something along those lines
[07:33] <joseph> k
[07:33] <concept10> joseph, not odd
[07:33] <Abnix> is there a way using the ubuntu live cd to force a screen resolution at the boot prompt?
[07:33] <uc50ic4more> mjr - thanks!
[07:33] <djm62> uc50ic4more: for more info, man bash ;)
[07:33] <mjr> hmh, "$file"
[07:33] <joseph> apt-get can't find streamtuner.
[07:33] <concept10> Abnix, check the help screens f1 - fx - its easy
[07:33] <Cybermagellan> NVM they fixed the wiki and put the graphics back up there....
[07:33] <Abnix> concept10: it's not listed on there
[07:34] <Dj_AlTeK> hey ne1 know how to delete a directory in root terminal??
[07:34] <Kyral> rm
[07:34] <concept10> Abnix, i cant remember the command - its something like linux 800 or something like that
[07:34] <Kyral> rm -r even
[07:34] <djm62> mjr: the command flac does the suffix switching automatically, according to the manpage
[07:34] <mjr> djm62, ok
[07:34] <concept10> joseph, have you added the repos to your system?
[07:34] <mjr> uc50ic4more, anyway, as for gui software, I remembered this: http://soundconverter.berlios.de/
[07:34] <joseph> repos? no...
[07:34] <Remog> what are the min system requirements for Ubuntu
[07:35] <joseph> I can add in synaptic... which ones should I add?
[07:35] <glDaher> nvidia drivers: Linux IA32   ---    Latest Version: 1.0-7667
[07:36] <joseph> If I just select community maintainted?
[07:36] <concept10> joseph,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:36] <glDaher> am afraid to install cuz last time on another distroy it ruined everything
[07:36] <Dj_AlTeK> Kyral: i tried rm -r /directory that i wanted to delete while i was in the directory but it said that it isnt a file or directory
[07:36] <concept10> joseph, also in that wiki, add repositories and then apt-get install streamtuner
[07:36] <djm62> glDaher: are you installing them from synaptic, the official ubuntu packages?
[07:37] <Dj_AlTeK> Kyral: nevermind i got it to work
[07:37] <glDaher> no downloaded from nvidia
[07:37] <glDaher> they were released today if you don't know
[07:37] <glDaher> some .run file for sh
[07:38] <concept10> Remog, what system do you have?
[07:38] <nate__> new nvidia drivers are out?
[07:38] <glDaher> yep today
[07:38] <nate__> sweeeeeet
[07:38] <Remog> lol well
[07:38] <nate__> are they actually better though?
[07:38] <Remog> I have this Dell "older" laptop that needs an OS
[07:38] <Remog> lol
[07:38] <nate__> Remog, DOS 6.0
[07:39] <nate__> Remog, nice and solid
[07:39] <Remog> um.
[07:39] <ar> hi all
[07:39] <Remog> no.
[07:39] <glDaher> freedos re
[07:39] <concept10> Remog, what processor/ram
[07:39] <ar> I'm a linux user for 3 yrs
[07:39] <Suepahfly> can i install *.debn packages in ubuntu?
[07:39] <aramiil> bonjour  tous
[07:39] <ar> But a complete newbie to irc
[07:39] <Remog> PII 266 mmx/64mb
[07:39] <Remog> prolly not eh?
[07:39] <ar> yes u can suepahfly
[07:40] <ar> by dpkg -i <package name>
[07:40] <nate__> Suepahfly, you could, i believe, but if its not ubuntu-targeted, its at your own risk
[07:40] <ar> true
[07:40] <Suepahfly> how?, i'm a linux noob
[07:40] <Seveas> Suepahfly, yes, but be careful with randomly downloaded things
[07:40] <ar> Risk is urs
[07:40] <glDaher> guys. if my driver installation failed and I turned out without X whats the command to install the current drivers from official mirrors?
[07:40] <concept10> Remog, it will probaby work, although ram is very low
[07:40] <Seveas> Suepahfly, first look whether what you want is in the ubuntu repositories
[07:40] <Remog> yea..
[07:40] <Remog> I want more ram for this
[07:40] <jez> does the fglrx module in fglrx-kernel-source only compile against kernels distributed by ubuntu or something? because i'm having problems compiling it for a kernel from kernel.org
[07:40] <Suepahfly> i use synaptic for that right?
[07:40] <Remog> Im not complaining I got it for free
[07:40] <Remog> lol
[07:41] <Seveas> Suepahfly, correct
[07:41] <ar> glDeher, just try bringing down the bit depth and see if X will work
[07:41] <djm62> Remog: I've run gnome 2 on those specs...still waiting on the start menu to open, in fact ;)
[07:41] <joseph> Ah, now that I added the universe and multiverse... there is a whole lot more PROGRAMS! sweet!
[07:41] <Seveas> Suepahfly, enable universe and multiverse to make the full set of packages available
[07:41] <joseph> Thanks concept10
[07:41] <Remog> djm62 haha
[07:41] <Seveas> lol joseph :)
[07:41] <marcel__> jez, try to get the drivers from ati.com, they must work must every kernel-source
[07:41] <Remog> alright thanks
[07:41] <Suepahfly> kvirc is not in the repository, but i do have the *.deb packageor is it better to compile?
[07:41] <joseph> lol... that is funny. I just did that.
[07:42] <djm62> Remog: but if you use fluxbox and some light applications, it's usable, and firefox works
[07:42] <ar> anyone here has tried any major games on linux?
[07:42] <joseph> Now I can pop on apache and make this thing serve pages...
[07:42] <Seveas> Suepahfly, kvirc *IS* in the repositories
[07:42] <Remog> djm62: k cool
[07:42] <zerokills> ar, what games?
[07:42] <glDaher> quake3 yes ar
[07:42] <jez> marcel__: thing is i'd prefer to use the ubuntu package if possible so it can be kept up-to-date easier
[07:42] <Seveas> Suepahfly, you need to enable universe
[07:42] <Remog> bye all
[07:42] <Seveas> read the following:
[07:42] <djm62> Ar: quake3 and UT2k3
[07:42] <Seveas> Suepahfly: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:42] <Seveas> Suepahfly: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[07:42] <ar> cool. demo versions? gl?
[07:43] <joseph> So, does the base ubuntu have an ftp server?
[07:43] <marcel__> jez, but you take a kernel-source from kernel.org ;)
[07:43] <zerokills> ar: you need cedega to emulate windows games
[07:43] <ar> How are they? Smooth?
[07:43] <ar> o i c
[07:43] <djm62> Ar: true to both in my case...I'm not a serious gamer
[07:43] <glDaher> full version with dedicated server on tty1 myself :)
[07:43] <Bramme> how can i activate the MP3 ripping function in GooBox ?
[07:43] <Suepahfly> ok thanks
[07:43] <Seveas> marcel__, please stop giving people bad advise!
[07:43] <jez> marcel__: i know, but i'm wondering is that the problem?
[07:43] <ar> so glDaher what's ur config and how smooth did they run?
[07:44] <jez> marcel__: i'm getting an error from make about a missing makefile
[07:44] <Seveas> marcel__, kernel sources for ubuntu should be grabbed from ubuntu repos
[07:44] <Seveas> marcel__, and you should use make-kpkg to compile it
[07:44] <Burrito> Hi channel
[07:44] <Seveas> marcel__, any other way is very ill-advised on Ubuntu systems
[07:44] <concept10> Seveas, why not kpkg?
[07:44] <Seveas> marcel__, just like grabbing drivers from ati.com or nvidia.com
[07:44] <Burrito> hey i have a tv card, but i dont know where can i finf a software to use it
[07:44] <jez> Seveas: i don't think he meant that actually
[07:45] <macarthy> hi all
[07:45] <ar> hi macarthy
[07:45] <marcel__> seveas, im not giving the advice to use kernel-source from kernel.org, but he did and wants to kwow, if he can use the fglrx-packege to compile the kernel-module against it...
[07:45] <glDaher> ar: as for the dedicated server, two of my friends hang in it sometimes and I never notice
[07:45] <djm62> Burrito: google the model name and linux is usually the best start
[07:45] <jez> Seveas: he was saying i took one from kernel.org, which is true. but i did build it with make-kpkg. i just couldn't be bothered to download another one.
[07:45] <Burrito> ok
[07:45] <Burrito> thanks
[07:45] <macarthy> anyone tell me whats wrong with this source  in sources.list W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:45] <glDaher> ar: but sometimes the phone rings "stop your downloading YO, we're playing a game here"
[07:45] <glDaher> ;)
[07:46] <Seveas> macarthy, try apr-get update
[07:46] <glDaher> and fully smooth
[07:46] <Seveas> macarthy, try apt-get update
[07:46] <ar> ok cool
[07:46] <ar> What's ur pc config, glDaher?
[07:46] <Dj_AlTeK> hey is there any free c compliers for linux??
[07:46] <Seveas> marcel__, ok, sorry that I misunderstood it
[07:46] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, lol of course :)
[07:46] <marcel__> seveas, when u use a kernel-source from kernel.org, you can the drv from nvidia.com too...i guess, its messed up already ;)
[07:46] <jez> Dj_AlTeK: gcc
[07:46] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, aptitude install build-essential
[07:47] <Seveas> marcel__, hehe :)
[07:47] <macarthy> ok a synaptic issue !  thanks Seveas
[07:47] <glDaher> ar: nothing super, 2.8ghz p4 1024 ram + nvidia geforce fx 5750
[07:47] <Seveas> better start over and use correct sources and drivers ;)
[07:47] <Seveas> macarthy, the reload button in synaptic should do the same trick
[07:47] <ar> Whoa! That's beyond super for me!
[07:47] <squinn> If my Breezy didn't majorly break yesterday [it didn't, any small error was my fault] , it will today.
[07:47] <marcel__> seveas, jez, but i've got the feeling a missing makefile shouldn't be matter of kernel-sources
[07:47] <Dj_AlTeK> seveas: do i run that in root terminal?
[07:47] <ar> i'M using a p3 1 Ghz with 256 MB ram.
[07:47] <ar> Of course not a gamer
[07:47] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, yes
[07:47] <ar> And its a laptop!!:(
[07:48] <Seveas> hehe
[07:48] <glDaher> ar: oh, am not a serious gamer either, I only play quake3 since 1999 :)
[07:48] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: thanx
[07:48] <ar> :)) Nice one
[07:48] <glDaher> thx
[07:48] <ar> I never played a full game of Quake or UT
[07:48] <ar> ok i do have a radeon tho
[07:48] <Seveas> And a crappy desktop: 900mhz amd and 128 MB and nvidia riva tnt2 :D
[07:49] <sknroiws_> :/
[07:49] <Kyral> Is there a SP Mode to Quake?
[07:49] <sknroiws_> I have a nvidia riva tnt2
[07:49] <glDaher> yes sp works fine for me
[07:49] <sknroiws_> Its in my closet
[07:49] <djm62> Kyral: yeah...I find the AI too clever by hald
[07:49] <ar> ok seveas what games have u played on linux?
[07:49] <Kyral> I meant the equake thing
[07:49] <Seveas> ar, supertux ;)
[07:49] <ar> fair enough
[07:49] <Kyral> Frozen-Bubble :P
[07:49] <ar> Keep it low.
[07:49] <sknroiws_> I play cs on linux :[
[07:49] <Kyral> Jedi Academy through Cedega :D
[07:49] <ar> What is cs?
[07:49] <sknroiws_> counter strike
[07:50] <sknroiws_> through cedega
[07:50] <Kyral> whats the site for equake again?
[07:50] <ar> hey, cool! JEdi acadmey?
[07:50] <ar> What config?
[07:50] <Kyral> Cedega :P
[07:50] <zerokills> ive played CS, DOD, AvP2, and a few others on linux
[07:50] <Kyral> or do you mean my system specs?
[07:50] <djm62> ar: scummvm gives you access to some great vintage adventure games
[07:50] <ar> But cedega is not free right? (not GNU GPL?)
[07:50] <Seveas> By the way: has anybody trued installing MSN Messenger 7 with wine/cedega? If so, does it work properly? It's the only thing I need to get my wife to use Linux :)
[07:50] <TokenBad> I have played warcraft 3 on linux
[07:50] <zerokills> yea, cedega costs money
[07:50] <Kyral> ar: 5 bucks a month
[07:51] <ar> Scrap MSN messenger
[07:51] <Kyral> but worth it :D
[07:51] <sknroiws_> Let me try to install seveas
[07:51] <ar> Usr Instant Messenger
[07:51] <djm62> Seveas: I remember it dying on wine :(
[07:51] <zerokills> definitely worth it
[07:51] <ar> that comes with KDE or GNOME
[07:51] <Kyral> GAIM :D
[07:51] <ar> GAIM
[07:51] <Seveas> djm62, /me too
[07:51] <Seveas> but maybe cedega is better
[07:51] <Kyral> zerokills: Have you gotten BF1942 to work?
[07:51] <xxtreme_> bob2= downloaded fetchmailconf, do I need to configure postfix as well?
[07:51] <glDaher> I hate something about games, they allow you to download executables, but you must have winblows to install them at the first place
[07:51] <zerokills> Kyral, nope
[07:51] <ar> oh i c
[07:51] <jez> Seveas: have you tried letting her use Gaim or Kopete first?
[07:51] <djm62> Seveas: install gaim for windows to help adjustment?
[07:51] <glDaher> gaim here too... #1
[07:51] <Kyral> I think my CD1 is scratched to hell
[07:51] <Seveas> jez, yes, she didn't like it
[07:52] <ar> i love gaim
[07:52] <Seveas> well, she wants the handwriting thingie
[07:52] <ar> And i despise commercial stuff
[07:52] <Kyral> starts copying stuff, then when it gets to the registration stuff, it dies
[07:52] <Seveas> and the personal message thing
[07:52] <ar> Even if it comes free
[07:52] <jez> Seveas: nor do my family - "what? you mean you can't do 'winks'? that sucks!"
[07:52] <Seveas> something new with msn 7
[07:52] <Seveas> jez, indeed
[07:52] <Seveas> and buzzes
[07:53] <goldfish_> anyone speak russian here?
[07:53] <Seveas> #ubuntu-ru perhaps?
[07:53] <jez> Seveas: gaim's inability to do such things is one of it's nicest features in my eyes
[07:53] <ar> Hey u can do winks on GAIM.
[07:53] <sknroiws_> I just installed it
[07:53] <goldfish_> hmmm
[07:53] <sknroiws_> I got an error
[07:53] <sknroiws_> :/
[07:53] <xxtreme_> goldfish_ whats up
[07:53] <Seveas> jez, I agree with you :)
[07:53] <ar> Smileys work great of all types
[07:53] <xry> is it possible to burn ubuntu on DVD?
[07:53] <Seveas> but she doesn't :)
[07:53] <jez> ar: you can?
[07:53] <anacron> xry: yes
[07:53] <ar> o i agree
[07:53] <djm62> I wish smiley themes were more standard and reliable
[07:53] <Seveas> xry, there is a DVD image, so I guess you can :)
[07:53] <xry> hm
[07:53] <ar> GAIM is nice and simple
[07:54] <goldfish_> xxtreme_: would you mind telling me what is said in a webpage for me? its in russian....
[07:54] <ar> And fast
[07:54] <Danar> anyone know any fat32 recovery software
[07:54] <Danar> ?
[07:54] <ar> And customisable
[07:54] <cassie> whats a good music player for ubuntu
[07:54] <jez> ar: not emoticon winks
[07:54] <Seveas> beep-media-player cassie
[07:54] <ar> Danar try EasyRecovery
[07:54] <Kyral> XMMS
[07:54] <cassie> where can i get that?
[07:54] <goldfish_> cplay
[07:54] <xry> i can only find "ubuntu-5.04-dvd-i386.list" on the FTP
[07:54] <djm62> cassie: rhythmbox is nicely integrated, once you've got the gstreamer plugins
[07:54] <ar> Ok, fine. agreed
[07:54] <Seveas> Kyral, beep == gtk2 port of xmms
[07:54] <xxtreme_> goldfish send it
[07:54] <cassie> where do i get them
[07:54] <Kyral> sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[07:54] <glDaher> Danar : ontrack easy recovery
[07:54] <goldfish_> xxtreme_: http://hacked-host.nm.ru/nahui.JPG
[07:54] <Seveas> cassie, use synaptic
[07:54] <Danar> anything for linux?
[07:55] <xxtreme_> goldfish_ brb
[07:55] <Kyral> Seveas: Yes, but can I use my XMMS themes in Beep? :P
[07:55] <Seveas> yes!
[07:55] <ar> Try pheonix recovery for ext2/3
[07:55] <cassie> how do i play beep
[07:55] <ar> It's very efficient
[07:55] <cassie> well use it
[07:55] <Seveas> oh: ubuntulinux.nl/files/4Humans.tgz <-- ubuntu theme :)
[07:55] <Seveas> cassie, it'll be in the applications menu
[07:55] <glDaher> Danar: I'll make one with in a year :)
[07:55] <ar> Danar u got the message? Pheonix recovery for linux
[07:56] <glDaher> ar he wants it for fat32/fat
[07:56] <afroman> Hi Ubuntu ppl
[07:56] <ar> U mean fat32 recovery based on linux?
[07:56] <cassie> hi
[07:56] <ar> No idea
[07:56] <vurdak> hi
[07:56] <vurdak> someone can help me?
[07:56] <concept10> http://www.sysresccd.org/
[07:57] <yccheok> hi, any wxWidgets and GTK+ user here? May I know ur comment on this both library cause I still survey which one I should use.
[07:57] <Danar> i need a linux program to recover a fat32 file system
[07:57] <glDaher> am making one, seriously ^^
[07:57] <vurdak> i've to convert a ape file into an ogg file
[07:57] <vurdak> how can i do that?
[07:57] <ar> Sounds good glDaher.
[07:57] <xry> if i want to "secure" wipe a harddrive, what is the command?
[07:57] <xry> in terminal
[07:57] <concept10> Danar, http://www.sysresccd.org/
[07:57] <Danar> glDaher: that's great... but i can't wait a year :/
[07:57] <ar> Do me a favour, please? glDaher? Can u email me when it's ready? I'm<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:57] <yccheok> hi, can I say wxWidget is just a wrapper to GTK+?
[07:57] <glDaher> yeah, and ntfs hopefully
[07:57] <afroman> can one what is on the screen of a Ubuntu PC through SSH
[07:57] <djm62> xry: wipe, iirc
[07:57] <Seveas> xry, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/yourdisk bs=1024 count=THE_SIZE_IN_KB
[07:58] <Seveas> yccheok, no :)
[07:58] <rronkiv> YAY i just installed ubuntu on my lappy!!!!!!!!!! wooohoo
[07:58] <djm62> Seveas: that's not "secure" in the paranoid sense
[07:58] <Kyral> Seveas: I switched to Beep. NICE!
[07:58] <ar> nope ssh is text based and doesn't allow X server to run
[07:58] <Seveas> yccheok, wxwidgets is a wrapper to the underlying widget-system
[07:58] <Seveas> there are wrappers for GTK, windows and QT
[07:58] <ar> Use vnc for remote graphics
[07:58] <Seveas> ar, ssh -X
[07:58] <thoreauputic> ar: erm.... ssh -X
[07:58] <cassie> gosh
[07:58] <xry> djm62: when i tried wipe, it didn't work
[07:58] <glDaher> ar you're not using yahoo msnger, no?
[07:58] <Seveas> or else freenx
[07:58] <bddebian> x-forwarding on ssh
[07:59] <Danar> concept10: i think i downloaded that once... IIRC i couldn't boot from it :/
[07:59] <cassie> howcome when i try to place an mp3 beep freezes
[07:59] <Seveas> vnc is crappy :)
[07:59] <afroman> can one what is on the screen of a Ubuntu PC through SSH
[07:59] <ar> oh thanks seveas i didn't know that
[07:59] <yccheok> Seveas: oh, i thought in linux, wxWidget is build on the top of GTK+. whereas in Windows, it is built on WIN32 API
[07:59] <djm62> xry: you tried the program or the command wasn't found?
[07:59] <ar> and thoro too
[07:59] <Seveas> cassie, change the output plugin of beep to Esound
[07:59] <cassie> how?
[07:59] <xry> or i think so, but then i wrote "wipe" in terminal on my computer in oslo (im using ubuntu as OS there) it didnt work
[07:59] <ar> i'm usin pppoe on Ubuntu in India
[08:00] <djm62> xry: install the package "wipe", then the command will be available
[08:00] <glDaher> Ar oh btw, it shall be ready with in 3-4 months..
[08:00] <afroman> From a linux computer U can connect to another Linux PC,right? can one what is on the screen of a Ubuntu PC through SSH
[08:00] <ar> Hey, by the way, how many of u got copies of Ubuntu shipped direct from Africa?
[08:00] <djm62> xry: the secure way to do it is to unmount the hard drive, then run wipe on the /dev entry.  if it's your root filesystem, you'll need a bootdisk or livecd
[08:00] <Seveas> afroman, you want a complete remote desktop or just running graphical applications on the remote PC?
[08:01] <xry> hm
[08:01] <Kyral> Cassie: Right click on Beep, select preferences, go to plugins, click the Output tab, and select esound from the dropdown
[08:01] <xry> i have no idea how to mount
[08:01] <afroman> Seveas, what do U mean???
[08:01] <xry> *unmount
[08:01] <Seveas> afroman, there are several ways to get graphical output from a remote computer
[08:01] <Seveas> single applications can simply be run with ssh -X
[08:02] <Seveas> for a full-blown remote desktop you need freenx
[08:02] <mjr> (well, don't actually need, but it might be easier, dunno)
[08:02] <afroman> Seveas, single applications...???
[08:02] <thoreauputic> Seveas: not strictly true: for instance you can run xinit, then ssh -X exec gnome-session or whatever
[08:03] <Seveas> afroman, for instance simply running mozilla on the remote pc
[08:03] <mjr> yep, what thore said
[08:03] <djm62> xry: how much does this need to be erased?  if you do "wipe normalfilename" it will be reasonably gone.  if you are being chased by well-funded .govs, set the drive alight.  if you just want to re-sell the hard drive, there are boot floppys which will nuke it for you
[08:03] <Seveas> thoreauputic, well, i'd recommend freenx though
[08:03] <mjr> or just run an Xnest and the session on it
[08:03] <glDaher> btw guys, I have a problem with sound that I am still unable to fix... it is either xmms to get sound or totem
[08:03] <thoreauputic> Seveas: sure
[08:03] <Seveas> the responsivenes of freenx is just great
[08:03] <Seveas> glDaher, set the ouypuy plugin of XMMS to esound :)
[08:03] <ar> bye all will be back later
[08:04] <xry> i'm just sending my harddrive back to the shop where i got it from, but i don't want a normal format, i want to get the data erased so they can't recover it
[08:04] <djm62> xry: http://dban.sourceforge.net/
[08:04] <zerokills> hehe
[08:04] <afroman> Seveas, could U plz speak a language I can understand
[08:04] <jez> afroman: for example you could ssh to your remote compter, then run xterm and have it appear on your local computer screen instead of the remote screen
[08:04] <jez> afroman: but do you want something like remote desktop in windows?
[08:05] <Kyral> Seveas: Why are you advocating ESD?
[08:05] <jez> afroman: did you see what i said?
[08:05] <justin> afroman: could YOU PLEASE speak a language everyone else can understand?
[08:05] <Kyral> piping stuff through ALSA is better
[08:05] <thoreauputic> Kyral: he isn't - it's just the easiest way for people to get beep/xmms working
[08:05] <djm62> xry: you want that disk, and back up the stuff that's personal to you on something removable beforehand
[08:05] <Kyral> oh,,
[08:05] <Kyral> lol
[08:06] <xry> i've done that already :D
[08:06] <Gskillet> Does anyone know how to access Powersave settings for Ubuntu on a laptop?  During installation it said Powersave settings not available, but I would like to get them working b/c my laptop decharges fast with Ubuntu
[08:06] <Seveas> Kyral, esd is the default on hoary
[08:06] <afroman> jez> I want it for Linux and windows
[08:06] <Kyral> Killing ESD is like the first thing I do when I reinstall :P
[08:06] <xry> but the boot and destroy program looked good
[08:06] <Seveas> so for hoary I advocate ESD
[08:06] <xry> do you have any experience with it?
[08:06] <Seveas> for breezy it'll be ALSA and dmix :)
[08:06] <mjr> Seveas, it will? Goodie.
[08:07] <Seveas> esd will indeed be ditched
[08:07] <afroman> Jez> my laptop has Debian and Win XP
[08:07] <Seveas> (thank $DEITY!)
[08:07] <mjr> Seveas, except will it also recognize sound cards that can mix in hardware and not bother with dmis on those?
[08:07] <thoreauputic> good riddance
[08:07] <mjr> dmix
[08:07] <djm62> xry: nope, thankfully.  last time my hard drive was nuked, it was with MS's proprietary solution ;)
[08:07] <Seveas> mjr ENOIDEA
[08:07] <Kyral> lol
[08:07] <afroman> Jez> and my stationaty has Ubuntu
[08:07] <Seveas> see udu.wiki.ubuntu.com for the full spec
[08:07] <mjr> 'k
[08:07] <Kyral> Thank $DEITY indeed :D
[08:08] <mjr> oo, "possibility of changing the default sound device", nice :)
[08:08] <Kyral> Am I the only one that cannot wait for Breezy?
[08:08] <xry> djm62: What should i choose then? Boot and Destroy or Wipe?
[08:09] <Seveas> Kyral, no :)
[08:09] <Kyral> or Colony 2?
[08:09] <Seveas> I can't wait to have it either
[08:09] <Kyral> when Colony 2 is released I'm gonna upgrade :D
[08:09] <djm62> xry: boot and destroy...it's not a partition, you really want the entire disk empty with extreme prejudice
[08:09] <^rob^> Isn't Colony2 over due?
[08:09] <Kyral> I think so
[08:09] <Seveas> ^rob^, no
[08:10] <djm62> beagle, sweet sweet beagle
[08:10] <mjr> Sweet, "Enable dmix in ALSA by default for known-to-work cards (requires black/white list)" - one would assume that mixing cards would be appropriately listed or the list could be amended easily
[08:10] <Seveas> Colony 1 was released *before* the 3 major transitions started
[08:10] <Seveas> Colony 2 will be released *after* they have finished
[08:10] <Kyral> if I nuke my system with Breezy though, I have /home on a separate partition :D
[08:10] <rebug> Installing Ubuntu 5.04 on an old iMac 333, I get through the installer and it reboots. Right after boot I get: loading kernel... /pc@80000000/mac-io@10/ide@20000/disk@0:3,/boot/vmlinux: Input/output error. This is my first ever Linux install so I'm kind of wondering what I do now.
[08:11] <glDaher> Seveas: damn you! worked like MAGIC !! w00t!
[08:11] <xry> djm62: so after the "boot and destroy", the harddrive is as good as new? Like when it came from the factory?
[08:11] <Seveas> glDaher :D
[08:11] <Seveas> rebug, are you sure your imac supports linux?
[08:11] <dr_willis> I got Ubuntu on my ImacDV.
[08:11] <pocho> Hello motherfuckers
[08:11] <afroman> jez> are you there???
[08:11] <rebug> Seveas: I've read nothing to suggest otherwise.
[08:12] <Kyral> Hooray for ops!
[08:12] <bddebian> rebug: Is it booting with yaboot?
[08:12] <nalioth> Seveas: you missed pochos performance yesterday
[08:12] <Seveas> nalioth, I heard about it
[08:12] <Gskillet> Does anyone know how to access Powersave settings for Ubuntu on a laptop?  During installation it said Powersave settings not available, but I would like to get them working b/c my laptop decharges fast with Ubuntu
[08:12] <djm62> xry: I expect that from the factory the hdd is full of zeros.  B+N will fill it with pseudorandom bits.  I expect it has the option to zero it afterward
[08:12] <Seveas> that's why I gave him the kick-o-matic service :)
[08:12] <rebug> bddebian: yep. yaboot 1.3.13
[08:13] <xry> djm62: so it should be impossible to recover?
[08:13] <xxtreme_> goldfish_ for some strange reason I can't open that
[08:13] <djm62> xry: yes
[08:13] <bddebian> rebug: Google around a little.  You may have to tweak OpenFirmware
[08:13] <jez> afroman: take a look at this: http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Networks/Using_VNC_with_Linux.html
[08:13] <Kyral> what about the nuke command?
[08:13] <xry> thank you very much! :)
[08:13] <xxtreme_> site
[08:13] <jez> afroman: that's not for ubuntu though
[08:13] <Seveas> nalioth, were you around when it happened?
[08:13] <goldfish_> xxtreme_: hmmm, weird.
[08:13] <thenuke> the nuke commands you
[08:13] <goldfish_> xxtreme_: no matter so. thanks anyways.
[08:13] <xxtreme_> really
[08:13] <nalioth> xry: the only way to surely delete info is to smash the HD into pieces with a large hammer
[08:14] <^rob^> Seveas: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule doesn't seem to have any colony release dates on it ...
[08:14] <jez> afroman: i've not used it before myself
[08:14] <xxtreme_> i'll keep trying fish
[08:14] <thenuke> what is 'nuke' -command supposed to be?  They will be released 'when possible'
[08:14] <^rob^> Hrmm, Sounders were released on a set schedule though
[08:14] <nalioth> xry, find a local institution with a large powerful magnet
[08:15] <^rob^> or at least there was a Wiki page that had dates in advance, it didn't happen that way, but still...
[08:15] <xxtreme_> goldfish_ yesterday you told me about irssi i got it and its better then kvirc
[08:16] <xxtreme_> goldfish_ thanks
[08:16] <omegadc> hello everyone
[08:16] <goldfish_> xxtreme_: no problem, irssi rocks !
[08:16] <GNULinuxer> bob2> how can i stop the ntp clock syncing at boot?
[08:16] <jez> irssi rules!
[08:17] <omegadc> how can i install gift+apollon on ubuntu
[08:17] <Seveas> GNULinuxer, update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove
[08:17] <^rob^> Seveas: I was upe late last night, am I imagining things though? I do seem to remember Sounder being more or less scheduled
[08:17] <xry> i have another question. right now i have two harddrives, one SATA (160GB) and an removeable. The 160GB is one 50GB for winxp and the rest for mp3s and stuff. if i add a 40GB ATA disk, can Grub boot both WinXP (On the SATA disk) and Ubuntu (On the ATA disk) without any problem?
[08:17] <xry> so i just choose which OS to start when the computer boots
[08:17] <GNULinuxer> Seveas> thanks
[08:18] <nalioth> xry: just add the parameter to the grub (on your master disk, right?)
[08:18] <Seveas> ^rob^, well, in the late stage of development the Sounders are easier to realize
[08:18] <Seveas> not in this early stage
[08:18] <dr_willis> Xry my system bios lets me hit F10 and it asks me what drive to boot. :P i dident even need to mess with grub.
[08:18] <xry> not mine
[08:18] <djm62> dr_willis: good hint
[08:18] <rebug> bddebian: only thing google turns up is someone with the same problem, and nobody had answers :(
[08:18] <^rob^> Yeah, I understand, I was just kinda thinking that there had always been at least a goal
[08:18] <xry> i have no idea how i add parameter
[08:18] <[1] rronkiv> hi
[08:18] <dr_willis> xry,  Serial ATA = xp. ide drive = linux. :) that way xp cant mess with the boot loader.
[08:18] <bddebian> xry: It can be done, but sometimes XP and Grub can be ugly
[08:18] <rronkivx> has anyone else had a error while installing ubuntu?
[08:19] <xry> ;(
[08:19] <jez> xry: only ever tried with one disk myself, but i'm sure the answer is yes
[08:19] <bddebian> rebug: Sorry, I haven't tried a Smash-n-toss with Ubuntu yet, just Debian
[08:19] <bphan> has anybody install Enlightenment?
[08:20] <Seveas> xry, the answer is a definite yes
[08:20] <jez> xry: just needs an entry like 'kernel (hd0,1)/boot/whatever' where (hdx,y) is hard disk and partition
[08:20] <Gskillet> Does anyone know how to access Powersave settings for Ubuntu on a laptop?  During installation it said Powersave settings not available, but I would like to get them working b/c my laptop decharges fast with Ubuntu
[08:20] <xry> hm
[08:20] <jez> i think
[08:20] <Seveas> xry, but I don't know if grub will automagically install correctly when you mix ATA and SATA
[08:20] <Seveas> but it's easy to do manually
[08:20] <xry> i install ubuntu first, and then you can guide me from there :) (with the configuration and stuff)
[08:21] <bphan> "ERROR: Enlightenment_remote cannot set up the IPC socket."  = does anyboyd know what that means?
[08:21] <afroman> Seveas, where can I get freenx
[08:21] <Seveas> afroman, look at backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php for a sources.list entry
[08:22] <mbruemmer> hello having can anybody help with   jackd?
[08:23] <x_or> mbruemmer:  What do you need help with?
[08:23] <Seveas> with jackd ;)
[08:23] <bddebian> doh
[08:24] <mbruemmer> how to start jackd
[08:24] <mbruemmer> its not running
[08:24] <x_or> Use qjackctl, easier interface.
[08:24] <omegadc> alguem do brasil?
[08:24] <mbruemmer> my rosegarden cant connect to midi
[08:25] <Seveas> omegadc, we speak english in here..
[08:25] <ttyS0> hello, people. firstly sorry for bad english. i have  a question. of course i'm using ubuntu and has internet access via dialup (USR 56K Faxmodem (Sportster) ext.). i've installed gnome-ppd, configured it BUT, it can't initialize modem. i trie dto edit ~/.wvdial.conf but it rewrites it each time before initializing. so what to do?
[08:25] <mbruemmer> omegadc: #ubuntu-es
[08:25] <nosotras> hi people, please anybody can guide me with a sound problem in ubuntu?
[08:25] <ttyS0> the problem is in ATZ string
[08:25] <x_or> sou carioca mais ou menos...
[08:25] <nosotras> i don't hear any sound
[08:26] <mbruemmer> x_or: my rosegarden cant connect to midi
[08:26] <Seveas> nosotras, plug in your speakers ;)
[08:26] <x_or> mbruemmer:  I run it from command line with "jackd -d alsa -d hw -are 44100 -p 2048 -n 2&"
[08:26] <Seveas> nosotras, no sound at all, or do you heat the gnome system sounds?
[08:26] <djm62> ttyS0: you know for sure the correct configuration?
[08:26] <x_or> mbruemmer:  I think qjackctl is what you should try, have you tried this?
[08:26] <Seveas> hear*
[08:26] <nosotras> not sound at all
[08:26] <ttyS0> djm62: i think so
[08:26] <mbruemmer> is it for all archirectures?? having an ibook
[08:27] <nosotras> but
[08:27] <nosotras> it's a computer to a friend that i have to give her this night
[08:27] <mbruemmer> x_or:is it for all archirectures?? having an ibook
[08:27] <x_or> mbruemmer:  Hmm, I know jackd runs on OSX, but not sure if qjackctl does, probably not...
[08:27] <ttyS0> djm62: it send ATZ string to modem and it replies "!z"
[08:27] <ttyS0> *sends
[08:27] <djm62> ttyS0: manually, you can get wvdial to connect to the ISP (with or without fully networking)?
[08:27] <Seveas> nosotras, what type of soundcard do you have..?
[08:27] <nosotras> windows works fine, but i want to install ubuntu to she can test it
[08:27] <^rob^> what package contains aclocal?
[08:27] <nosotras> i'm sure she is going to use it
[08:27] <ttyS0> djm62: yes
[08:27] <nosotras> via
[08:27] <mbruemmer> x_or: i only want to use ubuntu
[08:28] <nalioth> seveas where is the old wiki page? the one iwth all the articles linked on it?
[08:28] <Seveas> nalioth, hmm..? which one do you mean?
[08:28] <jer_> I have a question about ubuntu that I hope someone can answer for me.  The question is in regard to the software update icon in the top panel.  I do not wish to have it display that I need linux-image-2.6.10-35-386.  I have tried using apt methods of ignoring this packages with dpkg but have failed so far.
[08:28] <x_or> mbruemmer:  But, you are not right now?  You are running OSX or Ubuntu?  I am confused.
[08:28] <Suepahfly> is there a way to reload fstab without rebooting?
[08:28] <nosotras> via8237 with the chip C-Media CMI9761
[08:28] <mbruemmer> x_or: ubuntu
[08:28] <jer_> Can anyone tell me how to get the software update prgram to ignore the linux-image package and tell me that everything else is ok?
[08:28] <Seveas> Suepahfly, of course :)
[08:28] <x_or> Suepahfly:  mount -a, I think, automounts everything.
[08:28] <Seveas> Suepahfly, have you added something or just changed?
[08:29] <nalioth> Seveas: there used to be a linke from the main wiki page to "user documentation". On the userdoc page i could 'find' words and see the link to the article
[08:29] <ttyS0> and.....
[08:29] <Seveas> x_or, unless you changed things...
[08:29] <nalioth> Seveas: i don't see teh userdoc page anymore
[08:29] <Seveas> nalioth, UserDocumentation
[08:29] <Dj_AlTeK> hey once i finished compiling Wine, it asks me to sign in as root. when i enter the root password it says its incorrect. but wine itself is built i just need to install it
[08:29] <Seveas> or look at the wiki homepage for a link ;)
[08:29] <x_or> mbruemmer:  OK, just run sudo apt-get install qjackctl
[08:29] <nalioth> Seveas: i'm there, but its not like it once was
[08:29] <nosotras> well, nobidy can help me ?
[08:29] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, why didn't you simply use the ubuntu package
[08:29] <djm62> ttyS0: try installing gnome-ppp. It's more customisable than the gnome networking dialogue
[08:30] <Dj_AlTeK> cuz i couldnt get it to work
[08:30] <nalioth> Seveas: i was gonna look for the sound problem
[08:30] <Seveas> nalioth, the entire parenting system has been abandoned, so no page has the tree of children anymore
[08:30] <ttyS0> djm62: lol. read higher. i've installed gnome-ppp but have problems with initialization
[08:30] <nalioth> Seveas: well rats!
[08:30] <jer_> By now my question has scrolled off the screen. :  The question is in regard to the software update icon in the top panel.  I do not wish to have it display that I need linux-image-2.6.10-35-386.  I have tried using apt methods of ignoring this packages with dpkg but have failed so far  Can anyone tell me how to get the software update prgram to ignore the linux-image package and tell me that everything else is ok?
[08:30] <Seveas> nalioth, the wiki has a search function :)
[08:30] <Gskillet> Does anyone know how to access Powersave settings for Ubuntu on a laptop?  During installation it said Powersave settings not available, but I would like to get them working b/c my laptop decharges fast with Ubuntu
[08:30] <Dj_AlTeK> when i right clicked on a win32 application i looked under Run Using Other Application and wine wasnt there, and on top of that I want to get Cedega too
[08:30] <Seveas> jer_: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[08:30] <PDani> hi
[08:30] <nalioth> Seveas: i'm not impressed with the search function (i've used it)
[08:31] <Seveas> jer_, and a word of addvise: do not use breezy...
[08:31] <jer_> Seveas: I assumed that nobody saw it.  It happens quite often.
[08:31] <PDani> how can i change the theme of unlock dialog of xscreensaver? (I'm using xfce4.2)
[08:31] <Seveas> jer_, why would you ignore it in the first place?
[08:31] <jer_> Seveas ... what do you mean by "do not use breezy"
[08:31] <Seveas> jer_, that kernel is only available in breezy, not in hoary
[08:31] <nalioth> jer_: breezy does not work at this time
[08:31] <jer_> seveas: I built my own kernel.  I do not want the linux-image.
[08:31] <djm62> ttyS0: oh, damn.  you could add a launcher to the gnome panel to run the wvdial command that you know is working, as a workaround
[08:32] <nalioth> jer_: unless you are a developer and have a spare machine Just For Breezy, don't use it
[08:32] <mbruemmer> x_or: -this is e.g the output of your line above :~$ Unknownage with option 'a'   but i will try now apt with the hop that someting is available for ppc
[08:32] <jer_> actually it says new version 2.6.10-34.2
[08:32] <glDaher> Gskillet: I guess it is in the screensaver config dialog in GNOME
[08:32] <ttyS0> ok, ty :)
[08:32] <jer_> but i use <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:32] <Seveas> jer_, ah ok, well afaik there is no way to ignore it except for removing all ubuntu kernels
[08:32] <jer_> I build my own kernel
[08:32] <nalioth> Seveas: is there a list of all articles?
[08:32] <xxtreme> goldfish_ is there anyway to get sounds in irssi
[08:32] <Gskillet> glDaher ok ill look
[08:32] <Seveas> nalioth, there is AllPages afaik
[08:32] <nalioth> Seveas: thx
[08:32] <djm62> ttyS0: it sounds like a flaw in the software: a polite email to the developers might be an idea too
[08:32] <jer_> Seveas: there is a way with apt-get upgrade to ignore packages.
[08:33] <Seveas> jer_, well, pinning it to the current version will work
[08:33] <nalioth> Seveas: there is an 'allpages' but it doesnt do anything except invite you to build it
[08:33] <Seveas> :|
[08:33] <jer_> Seveas: do you know of a web page of how to do that or can you tell me how to do it easily enough ?
[08:33] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto
[08:34] <ttyS0> djm62 but i think i've asked question correctly :)
[08:34] <nalioth> well back to work (the phone never stops ringing)
[08:34] <Seveas> :)
[08:34] <Captain> hi
[08:34] <djm62> ttyS0: yes, absolutely! not your fault at all
[08:34] <Seveas> nalioth_wrkn, it's TitleIndex
[08:35] <Captain> say, I'm writing a wiki and I want to get straight.  Does Gnome's burner utility make bootable CDs?
[08:35] <drrk> hi
[08:35] <djm62> ttyS0: actually...gnome-ppp setup dialogue allows you to make custom init strings
[08:36] <drrk> is there something like debootstrap for ubuntu?
[08:36] <Seveas> drrk, yes: debootstrap :)
[08:36] <ttyS0> djm62: yes, i know about this feature, BUT...it starts from Init2 and there isn't "Init" string where ATZ is located :)
[08:37] <drrk> i mean to install ubuntu, not debian - if thats what you mean where can i get it from?
[08:37] <Seveas> drrk, you can install ubuntu with debootstrap
[08:37] <drrk> ah cool
[08:37] <afroman> Seveas> where can I get freenx
[08:37] <Seveas> just use archive.ubuntu.com and hoary as parameters
[08:38] <Seveas> afroman, look at backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php for a sources.list entry
[08:38] <Seveas> drrk, like: debootstrap hoary ./hoary-chroot http://archive.ubuntu.com
[08:39] <rpj911> little Linux steps... How do you path over to My Downloads when on CLI?
[08:39] <Kyral> cd
[08:39] <Kyral> assuming its in your home directory
[08:39] <Seveas> My\ Downloads or "My Downloads"
[08:39] <drrk> thanks Seveas
[08:39] <djm62> ttyS0: I /think/ that ATZ is resetting your modem, so it doesn't matter what init1 is
[08:40] <Kyral> cd ~/My\ Downloads
[08:40] <rpj911> the blank in the name is causeing problems ... I'll try the slash thanks
[08:40] <djm62> I'm looking at a manual now, but I am sketchy on this: can anyone correct me on that?
[08:40] <ttyS0> djm62 my modem can't recognize that string. there'
[08:40] <ttyS0> *there's a problem
[08:40] <Seveas> rpj911, tab completion can help you too ;)
[08:41] <Captain> anybody try to make bootable isos with gnome's burner software?
[08:41] <rpj911> yeah I like the tab thing even better
[08:41] <djjason> I have a problem with xmms....it happens very frequently that all of a sudden it stops playing a song and I have to press play again and start from the beginning...I dont know why....the only thing I can remember doing recently it enabeling multiple sounds at once. Any thoughts?
[08:41] <djm62> ttyS0: I think that you'd be best making a launcher on the panel for wvdial :-/
[08:41] <ttyS0> djm62, thank you for help, i'll follow your advice
[08:42] <xxtreme> afroman, you get that freenx yet?
[08:42] <fRanCo> I thought ubuntu had a livecd ..?
[08:42] <Seveas> fRanCo, it has
[08:42] <ttyS0> fRanCo, it has
[08:42] <Seveas> ttyS0, copycat ;)
[08:42] <fRanCo> really?
[08:42] <bddebian> fRanCo: it has :-)
[08:42] <Captain> djjason: have you enabled DMA?
[08:42] <fRanCo> whats the difference
[08:42] <dr_willis> Really!
[08:42] <dr_willis> :P
[08:42] <fRanCo> between the live cd and the full installation
[08:43] <fRanCo> cuz ubuntu is like 3 cds right?
[08:43] <ttyS0> Seveas: coincidence
[08:43] <dr_willis> ones a live cd.. :P the other runs the installer..
[08:43] <Seveas> fRanCo, well a livecd installs nothing but runs the complete system from CD
[08:43] <fRanCo> live cd only one?
[08:43] <Seveas> fRanCo, ubuntu is 1 cd
[08:43] <dr_willis> Install is 1 cd i think.
[08:43] <Seveas> the install cd is 1 cd
[08:43] <Seveas> the livecd is 1 cd
[08:43] <rpj911> would renaming My Downloads w/o the blank cause any problems?
[08:43] <fRanCo> so the live cd has everything that the installed ubuntu has?
[08:43] <Captain> install is one cd, ther eis a live CD, and know there is a live CD that doubles as an installer
[08:43] <Seveas> fRanCo, almost
[08:43] <Captain> All you need is just one CD
[08:44] <Captain> take your pick
[08:44] <fRanCo> ohh ok
[08:44] <Seveas> Captain, there is no live/install combo cd
[08:44] <Seveas> that's a DVD
[08:44] <Captain> sure, I'm sure I saw it.  Hold on ...
[08:44] <fRanCo> ohh dvd ok
[08:44] <Seveas> which also has all of main/restricted on it :)
[08:44] <justin> rpj911: ln -s /mnt/whatever/My\ Downloads ~/downloads
[08:44] <kira> hi all
[08:44] <Captain> seveas: http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/
[08:44] <Seveas> Captain, impossible, there exists no such *CD*
[08:44] <zerokills> hello kira
[08:44] <djjason> Captain: I have only enabled dma for the cdrom
[08:44] <Captain> look under Install/live DVD
[08:45] <afroman> jez> r U there???
[08:45] <Seveas> Captain, yes, it's a *DVD*
[08:45] <Seveas> not a *CD*
[08:45] <fRanCo> where can I see package listings or content listings of the livecd and the installation ubuntu  in order to make a comparison whats missing in the livecd that the real ubuntu installed system has .. =?
[08:45] <Seveas> major difference...
[08:45] <Seveas> fRanCo, mainly some binary-only drivers are missing
[08:45] <Captain> well, I stand corrected. They are not a set, regardless.  And you still only need one
[08:45] <Seveas> indeed :D
[08:46] <Seveas> chillywilly, can you throw dvd burners too :)
[08:46] <fRanCo> ok..  I just hope the ubuntu livecd works with vmware
[08:46] <fRanCo> that would be nice
[08:46] <chillywilly> no way jose
[08:46] <Seveas> fRanCo, it does not
[08:46] <xxtreme> afroman, u there
[08:46] <fRanCo> Seveas, you kiddin me?
[08:46] <Dj_AlTeK> hey can i download .rpm and install on ubuntu?
[08:46] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, sure
[08:46] <afroman> xxtreme> yes
[08:46] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: how?
[08:46] <kira> i have installed ubuntu an it is amazing now i am thinging about easy installing ubuntu. can i print out witch packages i have installed so i can easier reinstall my system?
[08:47] <justin> Dj_AlTeK: why would you want to do that?
[08:47] <xxtreme> afroman, you get freenx yet?
[08:47] <bddebian> Dj_AlTeK: You can try alien
[08:47] <Seveas> but please make absolutely sure that there are no .deb versions before installing an rpm
[08:47] <Kyral> Anyone know how to get MIDI emulation to work with Cedega so I can install Final Fantasy 8?
[08:47] <djm62> Dj_AlTeK: yeah, but you're better offvtrying to find a .deb
[08:47] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, alien -i file.rpm
[08:47] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: thanx
[08:47] <Captain> djjason: if it's a DMA problem that should been enough.
[08:47] <Gskillet> Does anyone know why Ubuntu can't play DVD's?  Im using totem and it wont play any DVD's because it Can't read encryption etc
[08:47] <Seveas> Gskillet, you need to install libdvdcss
[08:47] <kira> with alien -d file.rpm you build a debian package
[08:47] <djm62> !restricted
[08:47] <ubotu> I heard restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:48] <Gskillet> Seveas ok
[08:48] <fRanCo> has anyone here managed a way to boot the ubuntu live cd with vmware?
[08:48] <Seveas> look at what ubotu said too Gskillet
[08:48] <Gskillet> Seveas ok
[08:48] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: should i run alien -i file.rpm in root terminal or regular terminal?
[08:48] <Seveas> root
[08:48] <justin> Dj_AlTeK: you should run neither, and install whatever you are trying to install properly
[08:49] <Seveas> or use sudo :)
[08:49] <Seveas> justin, if there are no .deb files available, you have no oter choice...
[08:49] <fRanCo> Seveas, how come ubuntu live cd doesnt boot with vmware?
[08:49] <djm62> Seveas: would installing to /usr/local from source be preferable?
[08:49] <justin> Seveas: who says that are no .deb files available?
[08:49] <Seveas> fRanCo, no idea, never tried it. People just say that it doesn't work :)
[08:49] <Seveas> djm62, not really
[08:50] <mbruemmer> aconnectgui cant open sequencer
[08:50] <Seveas> justin, I asked him to make sure there are none.
[08:51] <fRanCo> Seveas, btw when running the ubuntu livecd , is it possible to change splash screen, gnome login manger theme etc ? or will it just "reset" by itself after restarting the xsever.. or is it some how locked to a unique setup ?
[08:52] <Seveas> the livecd does not touch the harddrive so it won't save a thing
[08:52] <WldRbit> W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing/main Packages
[08:52] <Seveas> livecd's really are just for trying out Ubuntu and for system recovery
[08:52] <fRanCo> doesnt it use ramdisk?
[08:52] <fRanCo> it should =)
[08:52] <WldRbit> Has anybody got that message? How would I solve that problem ?
[08:52] <Seveas> it does
[08:52] <WldRbit> It comes when I start Synaptic
[08:53] <Seveas> WldRbit, apt-get update. But you should NOT use marillat!
[08:53] <refuze2looze> Seveas, it uses your swap partition if you have one, otherwise uses RAM, so it is possible to save things
[08:53] <WldRbit> Seveas, what's marillat?
[08:53] <zukalk> why's marillat evil?
[08:53] <Seveas> WldRbit, that's what you are trying to use...
[08:53] <refuze2looze> not permanantly though
[08:53] <refuze2looze> ofcourse
[08:53] <Seveas> zukalk, debian has moved on after the hoary freeze, so you will get dependency issues
[08:53] <Seveas> hoary-extras from backports is better
[08:54] <skel_> hello
[08:54] <zukalk> Seveas, got it, thanks
[08:54] <Seveas> WldRbit, remove all lines with nerim.net from your sources.list please
[08:54] <WldRbit> morillat, the gnome synpatic package manager front ?
[08:54] <afroman> can U guys help me
[08:54] <Seveas> WldRbit, you have added these lines yourself, so you must know what it is
[08:55] <xxtreme> afroman= ask away
[08:55] <WldRbit> Seveas, I guess I do...
[08:55] <WldRbit> But those were in some how-to's I followed.
[08:55] <afroman> I want to see from another computer my movies
[08:55] <Seveas> WldRbit, i hope it wasn't ubuntuguide?
[08:55] <Seveas> because ubuntuguide is quite crappy
[08:56] <djm62> afroman: vlc and the server are designed for that,
[08:56] <zukalk> Seveas, why so? it did the job for me everytime
[08:56] <WldRbit> I'm not sure... I've been in a vacation for 2 weeks and I don't remember.
[08:56] <afroman> I want to run and see movies on another computer from mine else where
[08:56] <Thanatermesis> how to posible ubuntu don't have the "fam" package???   o_O'
[08:56] <Seveas> zukalk, misinformation, very suboptimal solutions and complete wrong ones, no explanations of why it should be done their way etc..
[08:56] <djm62> afroman: you could also make a filesystem available over the network, and run the player on the other computer
[08:57] <tmdca> hi. my harddisk is make the most awful sounds (sounds like something is scraching it). Why? I never had problems with this under windows... Does Ubuntu stress the hard disk??
[08:57] <zukalk> i see..
[08:57] <rpj911> I'd like to add UserModeLinux to my HoaryHedgehog 2.6 kernel ,would adding a deb repostry to my universe and going from there do it?
[08:57] <Seveas> tmdca, no, but it looks like your harddrive is dying
[08:57] <Seveas> install smartmontools to check it
[08:57] <drrk> hmm, i keep getting broken pipe when I try and run debootstrap :(
[08:58] <xxtreme> tmdca, better do backups asap
[08:58] <djm62> afroman: I wouldn't advise using X forwarding or VNC if you want to maximise the bandwidth for video data
[08:58] <ivan1> hello, can anyone help me, i am a newbie, back on linux after a several year absence.. was installing ubuntu but now boots to command prompt instead of xwindows?
[08:58] <afroman> djm62> what are U talkin about???
[08:58] <Seveas> ivan1, have you installed wit expert/server option?
[08:58] <ivan1> no, just regular option, following WindowsDualBootHowTo
[08:58] <tmdca> Seveas, Yes i know... How do i make defrag and scandisk corresponding thing i linux?   x.X
[08:58] <Seveas> or do you get an X server error?
[08:59] <mabu> Why amarok doesn't work in gnome?
[08:59] <ivan1> no x server error afaik
[08:59] <Seveas> tmdca, there is no such thing, and it isn't waht you need anyway
[08:59] <Seveas> tmdca, install and use smartmontools to check the drive
[09:00] <Seveas> ivan1, hit <alt><F7> to test, hit <ctrl><alt><F1> or <alt><f1> to go back to the command prompt
[09:00] <tmdca> Seveas, Okay
[09:00] <jez> just tried compiling the fglrx module again, this time with an ubuntu kernel. still getting the same error :(
[09:00] <ivan1> ok, i will try that, just rebooting now, thanks
[09:00] <Seveas> ivoks, if you see an error there, there's something wrong with X, if you get GDM, there's an other error
[09:01] <djm62> afroman: http://www.videolan.org/streaming/
[09:01] <black-whisp> hmm.. im tryind to build a source file. but it complains about some C compiler not able to create executeables.. what can i do about that?
[09:01] <WldRbit> Hmms, do you know of any good guide to set up cedega ?
[09:01] <ivoks> Seveas: ?
[09:01] <Seveas> Yes ivoks ?
[09:01] <xxtreme> ivan1= what video card U using
[09:01] <Seveas> heh, <tab> error :)
[09:01] <ivoks> < Seveas> ivoks, if you see an error there, there's something wrong with X, if you get GDM, there's an other error
[09:01] <ivoks> ah, ok :)
[09:01] <chalcedony> --'--,-{@ --'--,-{@ShadowWlf@}-'--@}--'--
[09:01] <Seveas> sorry :)
[09:01] <djm62> afroman: or you could do System->Administration->Shared folders and install the player on the other machine, and just access the hard disk
[09:01] <ivan1> xxtreme, it is a dell latitude c400 laptop, intel chipset, i can look up more details if u need
[09:02] <ivan1> xxtreme, i used the linux vga=771 option at install
[09:02] <Mauve> Hi, I'm having trouble booting from the Hoary Install CD, I keep getting GRUB Error 15 all the time and it will not boot; I have only seen this error when my 250GB disk has been connected... Does anybody have a clue?
[09:02] <ShadowWlf> chalcedony :)
[09:02] <ivoks> dell's laptopts work grat on ubuntu
[09:02] <WldRbit> Hmms, do you know of any good guide to set up cedega ?
[09:02] <djm62> video playing from a samba share was slightly ropey last time I tried it
[09:03] <Kyral> CVS Cedega or pay Cedega?
[09:03] <xxtreme> ivan1= you still getting errors
[09:03] <ivan1> ivoks, that's good to hear! I am so sick of windows spyware and ready to switch
[09:03] <ivan1> xxtreme, it just booted to command prompt login
[09:03] <zerokills> WldRbit, when you download cedega off the transgaming web page, it gives you a link to a HowTo.txt which explains everything
[09:04] <Seveas> Mauve, weird, are the CD drive and 250GB disk perhaps both SATA?
[09:04] <ivan1> alt-f7 does nothing
[09:04] <Seveas> ivan1, did it give a black screen/
[09:04] <Seveas> ?
[09:04] <xxtreme> ivan1 login and type startx  tell me what it says
[09:04] <djm62> time to ask again:  Can anyone help me to configure Xorg so that xrandr offers rotate functionality?
[09:04] <Kyral> Easiest way is download and install Point2Play
[09:04] <ivan1> seveas, not exactly, it is a text mode
[09:04] <Mauve> seveas, no they're both pata on different channels
[09:04] <ivan1> sorry folks, someone at my (physcial) door
[09:04] <Seveas> ivan1, yes, but i mean no text at all...
[09:04] <rpj911> Mauve, there may be an adress size limitation when useing grub
[09:04] <ivoks> Seveas: what's the problem? i have inspiron, maybe i can help
[09:05] <Kyral> Once Point2Play is installed, just let it go and it will download and install everything else for you
[09:05] <WldRbit> zerokills, does it have a exclusive ubuntu downloads or do I download the debian packages?
[09:05] <Seveas> Mauve, sounds like a bug in the installer, please make a deatailed report and file it at bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[09:05] <Seveas> ivoks, no X on startup, but no X error too
[09:05] <ton> hi everyone
[09:05] <Mauve> rpj911, I had the same problem when my BIOS still only detected the disk as 137GB
[09:05] <ivan1> I'm back everyone
[09:05] <Kyral> WldRbit: Download the Debian Package for Point2Play
[09:05] <Seveas> ivan1, try logging in on the text console and run startx to start X manually
[09:06] <ivoks> Seveas: X are pice of cake to fix
[09:06] <Mauve> Seveas: I'm filing a BUG
[09:06] <ton> got a problem, i have made a partition ext3 with Gparted and mounted correctly but now I cant write on it :(
[09:06] <Seveas> thank you Mauve
[09:06] <ivan1> user not authorized, will try as root
[09:06] <ivoks> ivan1: ok, X don't start?
[09:06] <ivan1> ivoks, right not authorized error
[09:07] <ivoks> ivan1: not authorized? ok... do you have any expirience in linux from before?
[09:07] <jez> ok now that i look at it, it seems a broken symlink is causing my problem. there's a makefile in fglrx-kernel/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/ which is actually a broken symlink to 'Makefile.kbuild'
[09:07] <jez> any explanations for this?
[09:07] <rpj911> when changing hd around, sometimes there are sttings in your BIOS for the HD you are using, like numbr of sectors etc, i would make sure those are correct fir the current hd you have pluged in
[09:07] <ShadowWlf> Anyone have any idea on a prob where programs close themselves (trying to help a friend)  Xchat and irrsi keeps self terminating, and /var/logs/ it said root had a crontab to killall xchat irssi.   that hadn't been set, and when look at the crontab jobs, it doesn't show anything like that in there
[09:07] <ivan1> sorry guys, off to buy a mac, chat with you later when I have time.. (my friend showed up so I have to go, thanks for all your help, ciao)
[09:07] <deancolinux> Hello, how do you install icon themes in Gnome?
[09:08] <ivoks> mac sucks
[09:08] <goldfish_> ivan1: do a 'ls -al ~/.Xauthority'
[09:08] <ivoks> acctually, osx sucks
[09:08] <Kyral> Move the Icon Theme folder into ~/.gnome/icons I believe
[09:08] <xxtreme> ivan1, you should wait until they put in the intel chips next year
[09:08] <Thanatermesis> how to posible ubuntu don't have the "fam" package???   o_O'
[09:08] <Seveas> xxtreme, don't talk nonsense please....
[09:08] <Seveas> Thanatermesis, ubuntu uses gamin instead
[09:09] <xxtreme> seveas, sorry dude
[09:09] <Thanatermesis> gamin ?
[09:09] <Seveas> yes, gamin :)
[09:09] <ivoks> Thanatermesis: gamin is safer
[09:09] <Kyral> deancolinux: move the icon folder into ~/.icons
[09:09] <Seveas> s/safer/much safer/
[09:10] <jez> there's a broken symlink in this module source to 'Makefile.kbuild' - but i don't know what that file is. can anybody attempt to explain what might have caused this and how to fix it?
[09:10] <deancolinux> Thanx...
[09:10] <deancolinux> Thanks...
[09:11] <Dj_AlTeK> hey after i compile wine it asks me for root password... is there a set password or what would it be?
[09:12] <Kyral> I just noticed something
[09:12] <Dj_AlTeK> what kyral?
[09:12] <Kyral> this time yesterday this channel had 450 people
[09:12] <Kyral> now it has 537
[09:12] <Dj_AlTeK> lol
[09:12] <alicia> does anyone know where the kernel source code is found in Unbuntu?
[09:13] <crazyhorse> Dj_AlTeK, for "make install" you need to become root by typing `sudo su` and entering your user password.
[09:13] <Kyral> You come for the help, you stay for the conversation :D
[09:13] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, by default there is no root password :)
[09:13] <Thanatermesis> ivoks, Seveas the problem are of any person like to use my packages, my packages NEED fam, fam not exist in ubuntu, how to repair this? in the control of pacakge: Depends: fam | gamin  ? gamin works equal to fam ?
[09:13] <Seveas> Kyral, the number of people varies between 450 and 550 :)
[09:13] <Kyral> oh lol
[09:14] <ivoks> Thanatermesis: gaim is fam, but without opening ports
[09:14] <Seveas> Thanatermesis, make sure your software can handle gamin (afaik it works the same so it shouldn't be a problem) and use fam | gamin indeed
[09:14] <Dj_AlTeK> ugh.... now i got to wait for wine to recompile
[09:14] <Dj_AlTeK> >.>
[09:15] <Thanatermesis> humm... ok thanks, Im modify my packages...
[09:15] <hacktop> any one know how to change your resolution? i configed my XFREE for a higher res.. but it stayed the same as the original 1024.768
[09:15] <Kyral> Dj: Why? You can Apt-Get WINE
[09:15] <hacktop> is it just a driver/chipset limitation or can i most likly go higher?
[09:16] <kimo> Thanatermesis, how usable is e now
[09:16] <Seveas> Kyral, that version didn't work for him
[09:16] <Seveas> hacktop:  find out how you can change your display's resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:16] <Kyral> might be a monitor issue
[09:16] <alicia> "In order to build the VPN kernel module, you must have the kernel headers for the version of the kernel you are running." Can someone tell me what this means??
[09:17] <Howitzer> Does anybody know if i could install Guild Wars on Ubuntu? :/
[09:17] <Thanatermesis> kimo, a 90 % of usability for work normally... is stable, works good... etc
[09:17] <black-whisp> hmm.. i've added some Repository's to my apt.. but it ignores them at update.. what can i do about that?
[09:17] <Seveas> alicia, it means you need to run: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:17] <Dj_AlTeK> :*(
[09:17] <Thanatermesis> the dev of E in this moments is VERY fast
[09:17] <Kyral> Howitzer: Cedega, but I heard it has some very minor GFX issues
[09:17] <Dj_AlTeK> all i wanted to do was play some counter strike source and run ares :*(
[09:17] <alicia> Seveas- what does that mean. This is my second day using Ubuntu.
[09:18] <alicia> or any form of linux
[09:18] <Howitzer> Kyral, can i just install it with using Wine and play it with using Cedega?
[09:18] <kimo> Thanatermesis, u mean e17 is about nearly usable as my primary desktop!! (yes I can accept a crash here or there)
[09:18] <Seveas> alicia, open a terminal and type in tat command exactly
[09:18] <black-whisp> hmm.. i've added some Repository's to my apt.. but it ignores them at update.. what can i do about that?
[09:18] <alicia> okay
[09:18] <WldRbit> err, I need help, does anybody know of a good how-to to set up cedega
[09:18] <Seveas> black-whisp, apt-get update
[09:18] <justin> alicia: are you installing the stupid cisco client?
[09:18] <Kyral> Howitzer: Nope, you're gonna have to pay for Cedega :P
[09:18] <Seveas> Kyral, isn't cedega from CVS free?
[09:18] <ivoks> Thanatermesis: e17?
[09:18] <black-whisp> Seceas: it's when i do that it ignores the Repository's i've added. :S
[09:18] <Howitzer> Kyral, i already have Cedega
[09:18] <kimo> alicia, just apt-get kernel headers
[09:19] <black-whisp> Seveas: it's when i do that it ignores the Repository's i've added. :S
[09:19] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: The CVS of Cedega is Free...
[09:19] <Thanatermesis> yes ivoks
[09:19] <Kyral> Seveas: Yah, but it cannot handle InstallShield
[09:19] <Thanatermesis> and EFL softwares
[09:19] <Seveas> black-whisp, please paste the complete output on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:19] <Howitzer> but can Wine handle that? :(
[09:19] <ivoks> i allready did e17 packages for ubuntu :)
[09:19] <ivoks> http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/e17/
[09:19] <Kyral> and you really pay for Point2Play, which makes things VERY easy
[09:19] <kimo> justin, I wanna install cisco vpn, is there an alternative
[09:19] <Seveas> great ivoks!
[09:19] <black-whisp> seveas: okay. 1 sec
[09:19] <justin> kimo: yes, install the vpnc package
[09:20] <Kyral> ivoks: Can you put that into Repo format?
[09:20] <kimo> justin, how about my pcf files
[09:20] <ivoks> Kyral: no :)
[09:20] <justin> kimo: you can convert them
[09:20] <WldRbit> Does anyone know of a good how-to for setting up cedega on ubuntu, please?
[09:20] <justin> kimo: /usr/share/vpnc/pcf2vpnc
[09:20] <Seveas> ivoks, wht not? :)
[09:20] <Kyral> WldRbit: Do you have Point2Play?
[09:21] <alicia> Seveas- that worked now where did it send it to?
[09:21] <kimo> justin, is it safe to submitt to this website
[09:21] <Howitzer> WldRbit, it isn't ubuntu-specific
[09:21] <ivoks> Kyral: this will not be repo, since these packages aren't stress tested and are to some extend bad packages
[09:21] <Howitzer> it it everywhere the same
[09:21] <Thanatermesis> sorry  kimo , my english is simple, i don't good understand...
[09:21] <ivoks> they are usuable, they work, but i, personaly, don't like them too much :)
[09:21] <Seveas> alicia, you now have installed the headers it wants, so you can go on with the installer
[09:21] <mikeblue> #ubuntu.pl
[09:21] <black-whisp> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/169
[09:21] <Seveas> ivoks, ah :)
[09:21] <Thanatermesis> good ivoks , only my packages are diferents
[09:21] <kimo> Thanatermesis, I mean can I use e17 instead of kde, for everyday work
[09:21] <WldRbit> Kyral, yes.
[09:21] <alicia> i need to know what file it is in, i think
[09:22] <ivoks> Thanatermesis: i would like to try your packages
[09:22] <WldRbit> Kyral, I have on my partition, cedega_4.3.2-1_i386.deb and point2play_2.0.1_i386.deb
[09:22] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: remember earlier when i was talking about the whole root password and stuff, well that comes after the whole compile of wine... and it doesnt let me do sudo su and enter my user password.. it just says password
[09:22] <justin> kimo: mostly, you can always decrypt the password yourself
[09:22] <alicia> Seveas- its asking for the directory containing linux kernel source code.
[09:22] <kimo> alicia, /lib/modules/2.6....
[09:22] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, ah that sucks
[09:22] <black-whisp> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/169
[09:22] <kimo> justin, how :)
[09:22] <Kyral> WldRbit: sudo dpkg -i point2play_2.0.1_i386.deb
[09:23] <Seveas> alicia, /usr/src/linux-*
[09:23] <Kyral> in the command line
[09:23] <alicia> Seveas- I'll try that.
[09:23] <Seveas> black-whisp, that's ok, it doesn't mean an error :)
[09:23] <justin> kimo: http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~massar/bin/cisco-decode , "This script uses ...."
[09:23] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: Ill let it compile again and ill copy and paste to the pastebin and ask your opinion from there
[09:23] <WldRbit> Kyral, and then what?
[09:24] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, you can just set a root password and use that
[09:24] <black-whisp> Seveas: i know. but i want to install wine.. and when i try to compile it the normal way. it complains about some C compiler unable to make executeables.
[09:24] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, you can also use the .deb packages from wine.sourcefourge.net :)
[09:24] <Kyral> WldRbit: It SHOULD make a menu entry in your GNOME Menu under "Transgaming"
[09:24] <Thanatermesis> yes kimo , you posible to work in e17 for all days, exist a very persons to use e17 for work all days, Im personally use e16, i like e16
[09:24] <Seveas> black-whisp, sudo aptitude install build-essential
[09:24] <WldRbit> Kyral, ah, thank you.
[09:24] <Kyral> np
[09:24] <Thanatermesis> i don't have time to test e17, im only packaging and create my personal distro
[09:24] <Kyral> It will walk you through the rest
[09:24] <black-whisp> Seveas: and the wine at the end or?
[09:25] <black-whisp> seveas: or compile again?
[09:26] <ScatterBrain> Anyone know how to copy a multi-session CD?
[09:26] <black-whisp> seveas: it installed nothing with sudo aptitude install build-essential
[09:26] <ivoks> ScatterBrain: disk copy
[09:26] <ScatterBrain> ivoks, As in "dd"?
[09:26] <Seveas> black-whisp, http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[09:27] <black-whisp> okay.. hehe. ;)
[09:27] <Thanatermesis> in all circumstances kimo you posible to try or select to work in kde or e17... and e17 is very fast and no eat cpu... (if you don't use much visual effects), the base of e17 is the WM more fast to launch ;)
[09:27] <ivoks> ScatterBrain: dd is an option, yes :) mkiso is too :)
[09:27] <ivoks> ScatterBrain: or k3b
[09:27] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb <-- use that too instead of compiling from source
[09:27] <WldRbit> Kyral, why should I not use the cedega as well or instead ?
[09:27] <kimo> Thanatermesis, how to use your pkgs ?
[09:27] <kimo> Thanatermesis, apt url ?
[09:28] <Kyral> WldRbit: Point2Play is a frontend to Cedega
[09:28] <ScatterBrain> ivoks, I've tried dd and k3b.  No dice.
[09:28] <Thanatermesis> yes kimo , look in www.livecd.debianitas.net
[09:28] <WldRbit> mkay
[09:28] <Kyral> Makes this very easy :D
[09:28] <ScatterBrain> I'm readin the man page for mkisofs right now.
[09:28] <Kyral> literally Point2Play :D
[09:29] <jez> argh, i'm confused
[09:30] <alicia> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc: command not found/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: gcc: command not found
[09:30] <hax0r209> Any body know how to burn DVDs in Linux
[09:30] <alicia> Seveas- what does that mean.
[09:31] <Kyral> alicia: sudo apt-get install gcc
[09:31] <justin> ScatterBrain: mkisofs won't do you any good, you're not making a filesystem.
[09:31] <justin> ScatterBrain: cdrdao is good at making exact copies of cds
[09:31] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: That was the version that didnt work for me
[09:31] <bddebian> alicia: Sounds like you need to install gcc?
[09:32] <hax0r209> Is there a Program that would burn DVDs on Linnux
[09:32] <alicia> Kyral- I'll try that.
[09:32] <Kyral> hax0r209: sudo apt-get install k3b
[09:32] <Seveas> hax0r209, i thought k3b could do that :)
[09:32] <djm62> alicia: apt-get install build-essential
[09:32] <hax0r209> I already have that
[09:32] <djm62> alicia: install gcc and all the trappings ;)
[09:33] <hax0r209> but is there a way to to get win32 proghram to work with linux
[09:33] <Seveas> hax0r209, wine
[09:33] <Seveas> or cedega
[09:33] <Kyral> WINE/Cedega
[09:33] <Dj_AlTeK> hax0r209, wine/cedega
[09:33] <djm62> hax0r209: nero has a version of their software for linux now
[09:33] <Kyral> Seveas: Actually WINE is better for apps
[09:33] <Dj_AlTeK> hax0r209, but cedega you have to pay for
[09:33] <hax0r209> do you wehre i could get it
[09:33] <Thanatermesis> bye
[09:33] <djm62> I'm guessing wine won't be the way to use dvd burning?
[09:34] <Thanatermesis> to channel
[09:34] <Kyral> hax0r209: sudo apt-get install wine I believe
[09:34] <hax0r209> yeah I have it but
[09:34] <hax0r209> I have problems
[09:34] <Dj_AlTeK> well, we all have problems hax0r209
[09:34] <Dj_AlTeK> ;)
[09:35] <hax0r209> lol
[09:35] <hax0r209> what do u use to burn your dvds
[09:35] <Dj_AlTeK> i dont have a dvd burner
[09:35] <Kyral> k3b :P
[09:35] <pfp> k3b
[09:35] <Dj_AlTeK> all i got is a shitty liteon cd-r drive
[09:35] <Dj_AlTeK> >.>
[09:35] <searcher`> hax0r209: nautilus can do dvd burning
[09:35] <searcher`> and so can graveman
[09:35] <hax0r209> ill try that
[09:36] <searcher`> hax0r209: just pop in the blank dvd and drag the files to the window that pops up
[09:36] <pfp> i think nautilus demands to burn via image, which is a bit silly
[09:36] <searcher`> no
[09:36] <searcher`> it just makes the image first
[09:36] <refuze2looze> hax0r209, try using k3b, it's good
[09:36] <alicia> Thank you to everyone who helped me.
[09:37] <searcher`> but that all happens behind the scenes
[09:37] <Kyral> alicia: No problem :D
[09:37] <pfp> searcher`: mm, that's what i meant (ie. it needs <= 4G temp space)
[09:37] <ufo_> where can I find repositories for breezy ?
[09:37] <hax0r209> when I try to install nautilus it says that is already install so when i run it it open my root folder
[09:38] <hax0r209> any ideas
[09:38] <searcher`> pfp: yeah
[09:38] <searcher`> and takes some time
[09:38] <justin> hax0r209: what you just said made no sense at all.
[09:38] <pfp> nautilus is the file manager in gnome
[09:38] <hax0r209> i type nautilus on terminal and it just opens my root folder
[09:38] <searcher`> pfp: there's still some room for improvement there, but graveman is nice too
[09:39] <justin> hax0r209: what do you expect it to do?
[09:39] <refuze2looze> hax0r209, nautilus is the file manager (like windows explorer)
[09:39] <hax0r209> got it
[09:39] <refuze2looze> hax0r209, pop in a blank DVD, a window will pop up. drag the contents you want to burn there
[09:39] <hax0r209> then how do i burn dvds with nautilus
[09:39] <refuze2looze> hax0r209, then click burn
[09:39] <pfp> searcher`: is it gtk?
[09:40] <searcher`> gtk2
[09:40] <pfp> great
[09:40] <searcher`> has the basic stuff, including burning audio cd's from mp3
[09:40] <refuze2looze> graveman isn't that good..
[09:40] <ivoks> ScatterBrain: umount cdrom
[09:40] <refuze2looze> k3b is much better than graveman
[09:40] <hax0r209> but first I will have to mkae an iso of what i want to burn rite
[09:40] <ivoks> ScatterBrain: if you don't like console, you can do it via GUI
[09:40] <refuze2looze> hax0r209, no, just your stuff there. it'll do it automatically
[09:41] <pfp> hax0r209: in a nautilus window go -> cd/dvd creator, the iso creation is transparent (ie you dont have to)
[09:41] <Dj_AlTeK> hax0r209: only if you want the dvd/cd to be an iso, if just regular then drag and drop
[09:41] <hax0r209> Thanks for the help
[09:41] <refuze2looze> does nautilus support multisession btw?
[09:42] <Dj_AlTeK> dunno refuze2looze
[09:42] <searcher`> refuze2looze: no. since it just burns a temp iso file
[09:42] <christos> anyone knows how anjuta is pronounced?
[09:42] <black-whisp> Seveas: whats the comand in the console for deleteing a folder?
[09:42] <refuze2looze> right
[09:43] <refuze2looze> black-whisp, rm -rf foldername
[09:43] <Nisku> Hello All.
[09:43] <searcher`> black-whisp: rm -rf folder
[09:43] <Seveas> rm -r folder
[09:43] <Seveas> do NOT use the f if not neccessary...
[09:43] <Dj_AlTeK> i thought it was just rm -r floder name
[09:43] <Dj_AlTeK> folder*
[09:44] <refuze2looze> Seveas, hmm, it never works for me if i don't include the -f
[09:44] <alicia> How do you create a .pcf file?
[09:44] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: what -f denote anyway?
[09:44] <pfp> f = use the force
[09:44] <Seveas> pcf?
[09:44] <kimo> alicia, it comes with cisco vpn client
[09:44] <Nisku> How can I set the size of the font used for printing in Evolution <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:45] <alicia> Kimo: I know. I'm trying to install that right now. I have to "Create a configuration file in /etc/CiscoSystemsVPNClient/Profiles/ named truman.pcf with the following contents"
[09:46] <djm62> is .pcf just ascii?
[09:46] <lsuactiafner> ok, my screen decided to make a very high pitched sound, hurts my ears.. its a LG flatron ez.. when i change the sync frequencies in xorgconf the sound goes away, but now my resolution is a bit smaller..
[09:46] <lsuactiafner> ideas ppl?
[09:46] <kimo> alicia, look there, there might be a template
[09:46] <Cybermagellan> Are there any drupal themes for ubuntu?
[09:46] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/170 .... What do you think?
[09:46] <alicia> yeah, there is. I just don't know how to edit it.
[09:46] <lsuactiafner> really hurts my ears
[09:46] <kimo> alicia, why it is just text!
[09:47] <refuze2looze> lsuactiafner, check your monitor's specs to see what sync frequencies and refresh rate it suports.. and set those
[09:47] <kimo> alicia, open with gedit
[09:47] <djm62> alicia: sudo gedit /etc/....
[09:48] <lsuactiafner> think my ping is 5min+ again
[09:48] <alicia> type that in a terminal?? come on guys i'm new.
[09:48] <refuze2looze> alicia, yes
[09:48] <bur[n] er> alicia: there's about 30 ways to edit a text file ;)
[09:49] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: you here??
[09:49] <refuze2looze> Dj_AlTeK, it's just asking for your root password. what's the problem?
[09:49] <Dj_AlTeK> what would the root password be??
[09:49] <refuze2looze> Dj_AlTeK, your user password
[09:49] <Dj_AlTeK> but i put it in and it doesnt work
[09:50] <refuze2looze> Dj_AlTeK, there is only 1 user ?
[09:50] <Dj_AlTeK> yea
[09:50] <marcel__> refuze2looze, he's asking you for his password :D
[09:50] <Dj_AlTeK> when i put my user pass in i get su: Authentication Failure    sorry
[09:50] <mbruemmer> what is AlsaSequencer
[09:50] <refuze2looze> marcel__, lol, that i can't help him
[09:51] <lsuactiafner> bleh did you guys see my question, didnt manage to sync to the channel
[09:51] <SysFail> no lsuactiafner
[09:51] <pfp> Dj_AlTeK: if that something really needs a root password, you could set one with 'sudo passwd', but in that case it would be safe to know what's asking & why
[09:51] <refuze2looze> lsuactiafner, about your monitor?
[09:51] <lsuactiafner> great.. yeh about the monitor
[09:52] <lsuactiafner> really hurts my ears
[09:52] <lsuactiafner> could it be the hardware is about to break?
[09:52] <refuze2looze> lsuactiafner, you have to check your monitor's specs in the manual or somewhere to find the correct sync rates/refresh rates/etc that it supports and set those
[09:52] <kimo> setting incorrect frequencies CAN damage monitors
[09:52] <pfp> lsuactiafner: i'd return it if there's guarantee (or proper laws to protect against material/manufacture flaws)
[09:52] <pfp> lsuactiafner: .. after guarantee that is
[09:53] <maeth> hi, i have a p3150 lexmark printer
[09:53] <refuze2looze> lsuactiafner, if you dont have the manual check the vendor's website to get the sync rates
[09:53] <lsuactiafner> refuze2looze : its correct, it worked perfectly for 5 months just started to do this yesterday
[09:53] <maeth> can somebody help me getting the driver for ubuntu?
[09:53] <lsuactiafner> syncs are correct
[09:53] <refuze2looze> lsuactiafner, warranty? =)
[09:54] <refuze2looze> maeth, what driver
[09:54] <lsuactiafner> refuze2looze : yeh but how do i explain to em it hurts my ears.. in the GUI it hurts, in console its fine, so they might plug it on win xp and say nothing is wrong
[09:54] <maeth> refuze2looze, for the lexmark p3150 photo
[09:54] <maeth> all in one printer
[09:54] <TokenBad> stupid deb files..
[09:54] <lsuactiafner> maeth : digital camera?
[09:55] <maeth> lsuactiafner, no , all in one printer
[09:55] <refuze2looze> lsuactiafner, i doubt it
[09:55] <lsuactiafner> suppose i will need to take it back, effort tho
[09:55] <maeth> i was checking this page
[09:55] <maeth> http://www.lexmark.com/US/products/info/linux/download_v2.html
[09:55] <refuze2looze> lsuactiafner, if your sync ratings are correct and the monitor is making a noise, it means something is screwed with your monitor
[09:56] <lsuactiafner> someone told me the monitor is about to break.. i goto gui and console very often so often the monitor changes refresh rates.. so yah
[09:56] <maeth> it says there is a kit
[09:56] <TokenBad> how can fix so can install deb files if the dpkg -i is giving me errors?
[09:56] <pfp> lsuactiafner: if you are using the monitor according to specifications, *they* can't  have anything against you
[09:56] <Dj_AlTeK> pfp: Wine is asking for a root password: "Performing 'make install' as root to install binaries, enter root password"
[09:56] <maeth> drivers kit, but dont know if it would work
[09:56] <lsuactiafner> pfp : no fish tank in it so its all good..
[09:56] <refuze2looze> Dj_AlTeK, if you don't know your password, nobody can help you
[09:56] <refuze2looze> Dj_AlTeK, you set your password when you installed ubuntu
[09:56] <Kyral> Dj_Altek: You should have done a sudo su before starting
[09:57] <pfp> Dj_AlTeK: hmm, why are you compiling it? it's installable with apt
[09:57] <refuze2looze> TokenBad, dependancy errors?
[09:57] <Dj_AlTeK> so does that mean i quit the make install now and sudo su passwd?
[09:57] <pfp> lsuactiafner: :)
[09:57] <Dj_AlTeK> pfp: that version doesnt work for me
[09:57] <lsuactiafner> one day someone is going to ask me for passwd and i will paste liek 500 random characters and tell him to memorise
[09:57] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, the version you are compiling is *exactly* the same as the .debs i pointed you to...
[09:57] <refuze2looze> Dj_AlTeK, no, you just need to enter your correct password
[09:57] <TokenBad> its saying it can't overwrite a file..but when first got the error i went and removed the file
[09:57] <TokenBad> but it still says its there
[09:57] <Seveas> so if that does not work, neither will this...
[09:58] <TokenBad> and can't overwrite it
[09:58] <pfp> refuze2looze: he's doing a make install, which uses su, which really needs _root's_ password, which doesn't exist by default...
[09:58] <pfp> Dj_AlTeK: oh
[09:58] <Seveas> refuze2looze, probably the script uses su instead of sudo
[09:58] <refuze2looze> pfp, ah.. i get it
[09:58] <afroman> how does NX work???
[09:58] <flodine> anyone know how to merge there xdefault colors to vim
[10:00] <SysFail> NX the newsreader?
[10:00] <afroman> SysFail> no the NX no machine
[10:00] <Seveas> afroman, have you installed freenx from the backports?
[10:00] <afroman> oo
[10:00] <Seveas> on the *remote* machine..
[10:01] <TokenBad> well I don't know why this thing will not install
[10:01] <pfp> Dj_AlTeK: yea, running 'sudo su', then 'make install' will probably install it, but i'd believe Seveas about it being the same version though
[10:01] <afroman> Seveas>I'm supposed to install freenx on the linux computer and NX on the windows PC?
[10:01] <Seveas> afroman, is the remote PC a windows PC or a linux one?
[10:01] <Dj_AlTeK> pfp: i tried apt-get but it didnt work for me
[10:02] <refuze2looze> Dj_AlTeK, sudo apt-get wine
[10:02] <afroman> Seveas, a windows PC
[10:02] <Seveas> afroman, if it's windows XP you don't need NX at all, you can simply use remote desktop
[10:02] <Seveas> applications -> internet -> terminal server client
[10:03] <afroman> Seveas, what do U mean???
[10:03] <alicia> I must sound like an idiot but... how do you do this- Run "vpnclient connect truman" to begin a VPN session
[10:03] <Seveas> afroman, just as I say it...
[10:03] <Seveas> lol pfp
[10:03] <Seveas> good luck :)
[10:04] <auk> heeheehee
[10:05] <Seveas> hoohoohoo
[10:05] <refuze2looze> cool.. is NX like VMWare?
[10:05] <alicia> Seveas- I'm trying to install a VPN client and the last step is to "Run "vpnclient connect truman" to begin a VPN session" but I don't know how.
[10:06] <Seveas> alicia, no idea, never used VPN :)
[10:06] <mgway> Hey.
[10:06] <alicia> Seveas- thanks anyway.
[10:06] <refuze2looze> alicia, try typing that in a terminal
[10:06] <Seveas> refuze2looze, no, it's like vnc/remote desktop, but really really fast & responsive, even over slow links
[10:07] <mgway> I've just re-installed Ubuntu..and set up apache. Except no-one can connect...
[10:07] <mgway> How do I open port 80 on ubuntu to get them to connect?
[10:07] <refuze2looze> Seveas, oh.. speaking of vmware though, do you know if it's possible to run windows xp from another partition or do you need to install it with vmware?
[10:07] <Seveas> mgway, if you install apache, it's open
[10:07] <Seveas> mgway, are you using a router?
[10:07] <alicia> refuze2looze- root@Alicia:/ # vpnclient connect truman bash: vpnclient: command not found
[10:08] <Seveas> refuze2looze, ENOIDEA, never used VMware
[10:08] <mgway> Yes, but its got the redirect set to this machine's ip
[10:08] <mgway> and I can see it locally
[10:08] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: as far as i have expirence with VMware you  have to install it.
[10:08] <Seveas> mgway, odd what is your IP address?
[10:08] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: what purpose are you goinge to use XP for?
[10:08] <afroman> Seveas, what do I put as Computer in Terminal Server Client
[10:09] <mgway> http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:09] <Seveas> afroman, the address of the remote PC
[10:09] <Seveas> afroman, and as protocol you need RDP
[10:09] <TokenBad> I was told to force an install on this screensaver..how do you force an install?
[10:09] <refuze2looze> black-whisp, well i don't even have windows xp installed.. just a hypothetical question =p
[10:09] <Seveas> afroman, your router still blocks it
[10:09] <afroman> Seveas, what do U mean "address"?? do U mean the IP adress??
[10:09] <refuze2looze> alicia, you created a root account?
[10:09] <Seveas> afroman, sorry that last line wasn't for you
[10:09] <Seveas> and yes, the IP address
[10:10] <Seveas> mgway, your router still blocks it
[10:10] <alicia> refuze2looze, umm... no I'm using the root terminal
[10:10] <Seveas> or maybe your provider
[10:10] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: okay.. ;) cuz if you try to install win xp on vmware to game on it. thats impossible cuz VMware dont use your own hardware.. :S as the ones win xp will be able to see. :S
[10:10] <alicia> refuze2looze, should I not be.
[10:10] <mgway> It shouldn't...I've got the router set to accept all ports
[10:10] <refuze2looze> alicia, oh, try using the default terminal maybe
[10:10] <alicia> refuze2looze, i'll try.
[10:10] <Seveas> mgway, have you perhaps installed firestarter?
[10:11] <afroman> Seveas, what about the username??
[10:11] <Seveas> afroman, your account on the remote machine
[10:11] <Seveas> and make sure the remote machine has remote desktop connections enabled...
[10:11] <refuze2looze> black-whisp, it uses virtual hardware?
[10:11] <mgway> seveas, I wouldn't know if I tried to. Its a fresh install...
[10:11] <alicia> refuze2looze, same thing.
[10:11] <Seveas> mgway, hmm..
[10:12] <refuze2looze> alicia, try doing "locate vpnclient"
[10:12] <Seveas> nmap shows port 80 as 'filtered' on your ip address though
[10:12] <Seveas> so something is blocking it
[10:12] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: yes... when i used it my graphic card was named VMware and so on.
[10:13] <refuze2looze> black-whisp, i'm just getting a 200 gig HD so i thought maybe i should have a partition for winxp on it.. hehe
[10:13] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: and some linux dists is hard to install 2. :S
[10:13] <Seveas> mgway, I think your provider is blocking it, have you tried running a webserver before, on windows maybe?
[10:13] <afroman> Seveas, what about the psswd??
[10:13] <Seveas> afroman, your account on the remote machine...
[10:13] <black-whisp> refuze2looze: okay.. ;) hehe.  :) well i wasn't able to get it to work as a gameing system with VMware.
[10:13] <mgway> No, windows webservers would never work for me.
[10:13] <xxtreme> has anyone found a repository for E17
[10:14] <alicia> refuze2looze, I know where my files are, I just don't know how to connect to the VPN. This is so irratating. I wish the directions for this were easier.
[10:14] <refuze2looze> black-whisp, eh, i doubt i'd be doing any gaming. besides the video card i have is intel onboard
[10:14] <Seveas> xxtreme, ivoks has made some packages for it
[10:14] <afroman> Seveas, what about the psswd?? domain, Client Hostname
[10:14] <Seveas> not in a repository though
[10:14] <refuze2looze> alicia, it's saying command not found. so try running it with the full path, ie. /path/of/vpnclient