[10:00] <cyph3x> *shrug it comes default with lenovo z series
[10:00] <dystopianray> atheros usually works without issue
[10:00] <majnoon> you try tarball downloads ??
[10:00] <Klonoa> I had nothing but trouble with the Atheros cards.
[10:00] <Klonoa> Finally just got an Intel.
[10:00] <Klonoa> Works wonders.
[10:01] <dystopianray> yes Intel is excellent
[10:01] <majnoon> i have iceweasel,swiftfox,ff,flock,and songbirf
[10:01] <cyph3x> but it isnt just my wifi card either
[10:01] <majnoon> *songbird
[10:01] <murlidhar> please somebody help me i do not want to launch my terminal to open a application everytime
[10:01] <majnoon> murlidhar, try alt+f2
[10:01] <alecw1> Hello! I have the beta of Gusy Gibbn, and I'm connected to my network. I candownload packages, and install things (apt-get), but I can't access anywebsites or IM networks. I've got 2 other fiesty computers workingfine, and my /etc/resolv.conf matches with all of them. If I ping thewebsite I want to access, get the IP, and put that into the browser, itDOES work. But domains don't. Can someone help? Also, my sound isn't working... I've got no id
[10:01] <cyph3x> when i reboot/hibernate/suspend things just randomly stop worling... like my wifi and sound?
[10:02] <dystopianray> alecw1: gutsy support only in #ubuntu+1
[10:02] <alecw1> dystopianray: I tried there. :(
[10:03] <majnoon> until the 18th or so
[10:03] <dystopianray> alecw1: try harder, you will not receive help here
[10:03] <dystopianray> cyph3x: some hardware is flakey with hibernate and suspend
[10:03] <alecw1> dystopianray: Ok, sorry.
[10:03] <cyph3x> it sucks because i really hate "profteering gluttons" -- but... it works consistently
[10:03] <dissection> My swap usage is always 0 bytes. How can I fix that?
[10:03] <cyph3x> dystopianray: how would i fix that then?
[10:04] <k4u> Hi, my internal harddisks won't connect at startup. how do i auto connect them, without entering a pass every time?
[10:04] <dystopianray> cyph3x: use windows
[10:04] <alecw1> dystopianray: I don't think my problem is gusty specific.
[10:04] <cyph3x> alrighty then.
[10:04] <dystopianray> alecw1: install feisty and reproduce it, then we will help
[10:04] <majnoon> ok one thing i was wondering ,is the reason dpkg and etc. take so long it does ldconfig a lot ??
[10:04] <dystopianray> dissection: do you have any swap enabled?
[10:05] <ardin> k4u: i would say to edit /etc/fstab .. except i think theres a way to to it with a graphical thing somewhere.
[10:05] <alecw1> dystopianray: It happened when I installed fiesty with my laptop, same thing, but I forgot what I did to fix it.
[10:05] <dystopianray> alecw1: as long as you're running gutsy you won't be helped here
[10:05] <dissection> dystopianray: I set a 4GB Swap while installing. But in system monitor, it shows the usage as 0 bytes. Do I need to enable that partition from somewhere?
[10:06] <dystopianray> dissection: does it say you have 0 swap, or you have swap but it just hasn't been used?
[10:06] <alecw1> dystopianray: ok.
[10:06] <k4u> ardin: Okay, you don't know the graphical?
[10:06] <dissection> dystopianray: Yes, I have swap but 0 is used at all ties.
[10:06] <dissection> times
[10:06] <dystopianray> dissection: how much ram do you have?
[10:06] <dissection> 2GB
[10:06] <ardin> k4u: sorry, i have no idea how to do it graphically.
[10:06] <dystopianray> dissection: you're probably just not doing anything that has required swapping
[10:06] <k4u> okay, thnx anyway
[10:06] <punzada> dissection, you should make sure your swap partition is listed in your /etc/fstab
[10:06] <ardin> i would assume someone here does
[10:07] <punzada> I actually perfer to just use a swap file rather then a partition, always makes the most sense to me with modern components
[10:07] <dystopianray> k4u: give the drives fstab entries
[10:07] <knightwise> aloha
[10:07] <tifine> hello, everybody
[10:07] <knightwise> hey tfine
[10:08] <dissection> punzada: This is what I have in fstab...... # /dev/sda4
[10:08] <dissection> UUID=4350603b-feb3-48fd-ac96-a949304b8837 none            swap    sw              0       0
[10:08] <knightwise> i was wondering .. does anyone know of a good apt get package to install an rdp server on ubuntu ?
[10:08] <dissection> /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[10:08] <ardin> dystopianray: there isnt a gui for the fstab yet? wow
[10:08] <dissection> Woops, sorry I thought that'll be one line
[10:08] <murlidhar>  please somebody help me i do not want to launch my terminal to open a application everytime
[10:08] <dystopianray> ardin: I have no idea, I do not use any gui admin tools
[10:08] <ardin> murlidhar: whats wrong?
[10:08] <tifine> i would like to play vcd, dvd on ubuntu but getting some weird errors tried  Totem, Mplayer, Vlc any body here :( ?
[10:09] <dystopianray> tifine: have you installed libdvdcss ?
[10:09] <knightwise> murlidhar.. use a shortcut on the desktop
[10:09] <k4u> dystopianray: What do you mean?
[10:09] <punzada> the less gui tools the better in my opinion, config files are written and commented so well it makes things so simple that way
[10:09] <knightwise> tfine .. install the automatix script
[10:09] <murlidhar> thaks i tried using desktop shortcut but is not working
[10:09] <dystopianray> k4u: it sounds as though the drives have not been setup in fstab and so aren't being automatically mounted properly on boot
[10:09] <tifine> dystopianray:yep i installed  libdvdcss2
[10:09] <dystopianray> tifine: knightwise: NO, do not use automatix
[10:10] <dystopianray> tifine: did you install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly ?
[10:10] <murlidhar> it says Details: Failed to execute child process "/home/murlidhar/LH-ABC_3.2.0/lh-abc.py" (Permission denied)
[10:10] <k4u> dystopianray: I CAN see them, but when i want to open, i have to enter pass.. and THEN i can use them troughout ubuntu
[10:10] <knightwise> murlidhar . whats the command that you use
[10:10] <k4u> murlidhar: try sudo?
[10:10] <knightwise> tfine .. why not ?
[10:10] <dystopianray> k4u: as I said, you need to edit your fstab
[10:10] <tifine> dystopianray: yes indeed
[10:10] <k4u> dystopianray: And that is where?
[10:10] <murlidhar> knightwise: python lh-abc.py
[10:10] <dystopianray> k4u: /etc/fstab
[10:11] <dissection> punzada: is that right?
[10:11] <k4u> dystopianray: okay, let's try
[10:11] <knightwise> i have and old thin client at home and would like to hook it up to my ubuntu machine
[10:11] <r-wolf> nevertheless, in that case you have to know which config has to be edited
[10:11] <tifine> dystopianray: Knightwise:  okie lets see guys
[10:11] <k4u> dystopianray: okay, i'm in that file now. but which changes to make?
[10:12] <dystopianray> k4u: i don't know exactly what you want to do
[10:12] <ardin> punzada: last i heard, ubuntu was made for the desktop end user. It'll never get there without graphical admin tools like ways to change xorg settings or edit fstab without thinking.
[10:12] <r-wolf> why doesn't feisty's GUI package manager see packages on livecd?
[10:12] <knightwise> ubuntu was not specificly made for the desktop
[10:12] <tifine> dystopianray:  can you please help me out with dvd, vcd thinga ?
[10:12] <k4u> dystopianray; If i boot up my ubuntu. and i click on a disk, it asks me for a pass. THAT shouldn't happen, it should just connect
[10:12] <coreymon77> goodnight everyone
[10:12] <dystopianray> tifine: i don't know how to help any further
[10:12] <dystopianray> k4u: pastebin your fstab
[10:13] <knightwise> k4d ..  are you connecting to a samba drive ?
[10:13] <tifine> any geek here wana help for playing vcd or dvd
[10:13] <tifine> >?
[10:13] <dystopianray> knightwise: he said they were internal drives
[10:13] <knightwise> hmm sudo mount in fstab ?
[10:14] <r-wolf> I mean, why doesn't feisty's GUI package manager see packages on liveDVD from which it all has been installed?
[10:14] <punzada> dissection, by typing 'free' in terminal it recognizes the swap is there correct
[10:14] <knightwise> tfine check your private
[10:14] <punzada> ?
[10:14] <k4u> knightwise: samba? no.. it's just an internal drive...
[10:14] <dystopianray> ardin: there are gui tools for configuring xorg.conf and fstab
[10:14] <dissection> punzada: Yes, it shows up there but used is 0.
[10:14] <dystopianray> k4u: pastebin your fstab
[10:14] <punzada> how much ram is used?
[10:15] <ardin> dystopianray: i was responding to his comment about using less gui tools. i know most people on irc dont wanna use gui tools, but normal non-geek types dont wanna use the command line
[10:15] <knightwise> anybody got any experience with rdp and ubuntu ?
[10:15] <ardin> i'm sorry, i'm offtopic
[10:16] <punzada> no , it's not that non-geeks don't want to use the command line, it's that windows users don't want to use the command line
[10:16] <punzada> that's a big difference.
[10:16] <k4u> dystopianray: err, pastbin??:|
[10:16] <dystopianray> !pastebin | k4u
[10:16] <ubotu> k4u: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:16] <k4u> thnx
[10:16] <knightwise> oh my ..the gui vs command line discussions ? here ?
[10:17] <k4u> dystopianray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39743/
[10:18] <knightwise> i would not trust my fstab to a gui app
[10:18] <r-wolf> guys, how do I get GUI package manager at feisty consider packages from liveDVD? "settings - app sources" doesn't seem to recognize live DVD as package source
[10:18] <dystopianray> nor would I, and especially not my xorg.conf
[10:18] <dystopianray> k4u: ok so which partition are you having trouble with?
[10:18] <knightwise> r-wolf why not use the online reps ?
[10:19] <k4u> dystopianray: But.. the drive which i'm having troubles with isn't on there.. i think:\
[10:19] <knightwise> the packages are fresher there
[10:19] <dystopianray> k4u: pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[10:19] <r-wolf> knightwise: no, I'd like to minimize traffic
[10:20] <knightwise> ah . i understand
[10:20] <k4u> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39744/
[10:20] <knightwise> have you editet your /etc/sources file ?
[10:20] <dystopianray> k4u: ok, so which partition are you having trouble with?
[10:20] <r-wolf> knightwise: there has been no such file, should I create it?
[10:21] <knightwise> no the dir is different
[10:21] <knightwise> try locate sources
[10:21] <knightwise> it will give you the correct dir
[10:21] <knightwise> im on my mobile right now
[10:21] <k4u> dystopianray: darned... i'm not good at this:\ let's search.. i only know every drive by name...
[10:21] <knightwise> cant see my linux system from here
[10:22] <punzada> dissection, you still having issues?
[10:22] <k4u> darned, brb
[10:22] <dissection> punzada: Well it continues to show the swap usage as 0. I don't know if that has got anything to do with Ubuntu freezing all the time. No one's been able to find me a solution till now.
[10:23] <knightwise> ubuntu freezing up
[10:23] <dystopianray> k4u: ls -l /dev/disk/by-label
[10:23] <knightwise> ? must be quite a brob
[10:23] <knightwise> prob
[10:23] <punzada> you never answered my last question, how much ram usage do you have with 0 swap space and have you tried changing the 'swapiness'?
[10:23] <k4u> b, lets try dystophianray
[10:24] <k4u> dystopianray: aah, NOW that helps.. it's hda5!
[10:24] <r-wolf> knightwise: found /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:24] <dystopianray> k4u: you'll need to add an fstab line for hda5
[10:24] <murlidhar> i am trying to compile an application called linkage and it gives an error saying libtorrent was not found .i have already compiled and installed libtorrent
[10:24] <murlidhar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39745/
[10:25] <k4u> dystopianray: okay. which is that?
[10:25] <dystopianray> k4u: pardon?
[10:25] <k4u> dystopianray: which line do i need to add? (sorry, i'm really a noob at this...)
[10:26] <dystopianray> k4u: you can basically copy the sda5 line but change the UUID and mount point
[10:26] <k4u> dystopianray: okay. where to get the UUID?
[10:27] <dystopianray> k4u: sudo vol_id /dev/hda5
[10:27] <murlidhar> any1?
[10:27] <Thegiver> how do i setup sshd on ubuntu?
[10:27] <AJ--> hello guys.. just wanna ask, is there any linux program that can capture a screen like CAMTASIA coz i want to make a video of my desktop
[10:27] <k4u> thegiver: sudo apt-get sshd?
[10:27] <dystopianray> Thegiver: what exactly do you want to do?
[10:28] <Thegiver> just run a basic ssh server
[10:28] <Thegiver> so other people can connect to it
[10:28] <Thegiver> i already did sudo apt-get install sshd
[10:28] <k4u> thegiver: sudo apt-get install ssh-server
[10:28] <dystopianray> Thegiver: install openssh-server
[10:28] <Thegiver> oh
[10:28] <k4u> dystopianray: Okay, added that line. do i need to restart my pc for it to work?
[10:28] <tifine> getting error message while playing vcd on ubuntu    This is the error message i m getting it ( error opening /initalizing the selected video_out(-vo) device  ))
[10:28] <dystopianray> k4u: pastebin your new fstab so I can double check it
[10:29] <ikonia> Thegiver: the package is called openssh-server
[10:29] <Thegiver> hmm kool
[10:30] <Thegiver> hmm
[10:30] <Thegiver> i think i alraedey have it.. how do is tart it
[10:30] <Thegiver> i thought it was just sshd start
[10:30] <ikonia> its started by default
[10:30] <AJ--> any linux program that i can use.. a program like camtasia to record a desktop
[10:30] <k4u> dystopianray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39746/
[10:31] <tifine> ANY BODY GOOD IN PLAYING VCD DVD USING UBUNTU   getting error message while playing vcd on ubuntu    This is the error message i m getting it ( error opening /initalizing the selected video_out(-vo) device  ))
[10:31] <dystopianray> Thegiver: it'll start by default after you install it
[10:31] <ikonia> tifine don't shout, its the best way to get ignored
[10:31] <Thegiver> cool
[10:31] <dystopianray> Thegiver: otherwise do /etc/init.d/ssh start
[10:31] <dystopianray> k4u: does /media/hda5 actually exist?
[10:32] <dystopianray> k4u: just make sure you've run: sudo mkdir /media/hda5
[10:32] <open-gl> I wanted to know if ntfs-3g can unistall thing that are from windows.
[10:32] <tifine> any body good in playing vcd,dvd using ubuntu  getting error message while playing vcd on ubuntu    This is the error message i m getting it ( error opening /initalizing the selected video_out(-vo) device  ))
[10:32] <Kenny3> what should i choose in virtual box for the os type of ubuntu? there is linux 2.2 , 2.4 and 2.6
[10:32] <k4u> dystopianray: Okay, i did that now.. do i need to reboot or not?
[10:32] <dystopianray> open-gl: ntfs-3g cannot itself run any software from your windows partition
[10:32] <dystopianray> k4u: yeah do a reboot to make sure it's all working
[10:32] <k4u> kenny3: It doesn't matter, that's just so you can recognize it
[10:33] <ikonia> Kenny3 2.6
[10:33] <k4u> dystopianray: okay, thnx.. let's reboot then!
[10:33] <Thegiver> do all users have ssh access.. or do i have to do something in my passwd file?
[10:33] <Sontax`lap> ok running new kernel now
[10:33] <Thegiver> if so what do i have to do?
[10:33] <Sontax`lap> wireless working but still not the resolution
[10:33] <open-gl> dystopianray so that means i cant uninstal a software that is in windows
[10:33] <ikonia> k4u it does matter
[10:33] <k4u> ikonia: oh, okay... didn't know:P
[10:33] <ikonia> k4u don't say things you don't know
[10:33] <Kenny3> k4u: doesnt matter? recognize what??
[10:33] <Kenny3> ikonia: ok
[10:33] <ikonia> k4u: its dangerous
[10:33] <Kenny3> ikonia: thanks
[10:34] <k4u> ikonia: i was certain it didn't matter. but since you tell me the oppisite;)
[10:34] <rulus> hi, I can mount a partition at /home, but how do I mount a directory from that partition at /home?
[10:34] <tifine> any body good in playing vcd,dvd using ubuntu  getting error message while playing vcd on ubuntu    This is the error message i m getting it ( error opening /initalizing the selected video_out(-vo) device  ))
[10:34] <ikonia> rulus same way you mounted /home - just mount a dir off /home
[10:34] <ikonia> rulus: /home/mount for example
[10:34] <k4u> going into reboot...
[10:35] <Thegiver> so?
[10:35] <rulus> ikonia: no, I mean a directory from the partition to mount, like /backup/home at /dev/sda1 should be mounted at the /home
[10:37] <k4u> dystopianray: Great! it works!! thnx!!
[10:37] <hhp2k> Anyone wanna help me with a curious configure error?
[10:38] <k4u> now i've got another issue.. on another box, i installed ubuntu for my dad.. but i chose command line install.. how do i get the xserver working?
[10:38] <Richard> is it possible to burn a disc while using the ubuntu live cd?
[10:38] <ikonia> k4u: install the desktop version, not the server version
[10:39] <ikonia> Richard: yes,
[10:39] <ikonia> hhp2k: just ask the question
[10:39] <k4u> ikonia: sudo apt-get install what?
[10:39] <ikonia> k4u no - re-install ubuntu and use the destkop version, not the server eddition
[10:39] <Snille> Finns det ngot bra grafist verktyg fr att montera ISOs i Gnome?
[10:40] <hhp2k> Here's what I've got after trying to run ,/configure on a screensaver package:
[10:40] <hhp2k> checking for X11 application defaults directory... not found
[10:40] <hhp2k> configure: error: try using the --with-defaultdir=DIR option
[10:40] <Richard> im kinda new to this how do it?
[10:40] <xcst> i need help with ubuntu and beryl
[10:40] <Snille> grafiskt even
[10:40] <Snille> Opps sorry..
[10:40] <k4u> ikonia: Sorry, i can't reinstall... i tried that several times.. this is the only way the install actually works...
[10:40] <mailavj> anybody know how to play VCDs in ubuntu?
[10:41] <ikonia> k4u thats nonsens, the server edition is built on the same packages as the desktop so either both will work or neither. Try the alternative ISO image, rather than the destkop (not the server edition)
[10:41] <monkey_> hey everybody and girl down here :)
[10:41] <xcst> when i am using  beryl it works fine, for a while, until i downloaded codecs for video like avi, mpeg etc. beryl didnt work anymore
[10:41] <psyphen> k4u: what happens if you type "gdm" at the command line?
[10:41] <k4u> ikonia: i HAVE the alternate image.. it just fails
[10:41] <dystopianray> rulus: I don't think you can do that, you'd have to mount the partition somewhere else and do a bind mount
[10:42] <ikonia> hhp2k: that is asking for a configure argument for the X11 default dir
[10:42] <k4u> ikonia: i have installed ubuntu-desktop, and xinit
[10:42] <rulus> dystopianray: thanks, I'll look into that
[10:42] <k4u> brb, lets try @ psyphen
[10:42] <ikonia> k4u: use the desktop version
[10:43] <k4u> psyphen: it tells me to install that.. i'm doing that right now
[10:43] <ikonia> k4u: there is more to having a desktop environment than actually having the destkop. Use the desktop edition
[10:43] <arooni-mobile> folks:  i have ubuntu ... and i have a webapp i wrote that i need to test on the safari browser.  i have heard that konqueror is a good way of testing, but i've heard there are some differences in rendering between the two browsers.  ideas?
[10:43] <k4u> ikonia: sorry. i really can't.. every setup fails
[10:43] <ikonia> k4u: explain the failure
[10:43] <binhbanhbao> can lien he nhung anh em thanh vien 4vn de mua hack audition :T
[10:44] <dystopianray> arooni-mobile: safari and konqueror are very different
[10:44] <punzada> arooni-mobile, use browsercam
[10:44] <k4u> ikonia: during setup. OR it just keeps saying: hold on a sec
[10:44] <k4u> ikonia: OR it just can't install some stuff
[10:44] <k4u> ikonia: And the live-cd doesn't even boot at all
[10:44] <arooni-mobile> arooni-mobile, what i need to test is javascript based.... and isnt static content
[10:44] <ikonia> k4u you've not told me what it says
[10:44] <dystopianray> arooni-mobile: install safari in windows and test there
[10:44] <nikolam> Hi
[10:44] <nikolam> I am just sick and tired of killing gam_server and Thunar that uses all CPU. and when mouse start moving badly because of big cpu usage.. I thought I left those problems on Win XP..
[10:45] <nikolam> Here si content of my /etc/gamin/gaminrc  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39747/
[10:45] <k4u> ikonia: i had all those errors yesterday, was very tired.. are you asking me to remember something like a simple error?
[10:45] <arooni-mobile> dystopianray, hmmm dont have a windoz computer at home... i went all in on linux
[10:45] <ikonia> k4uk4u what errors ? you've not told me any errors
[10:45] <nikolam> Maybe settig poll value to 3 bilions would stop it?..
[10:45] <k4u> ikonia: i had all those errors yesterday, was very tired.. are you asking me to remember something like a simple error?
[10:45] <k4u> brb, checking @ other box
[10:45] <ikonia> k4uk4u what errors ? you've not told me any errors
[10:46] <XomboX> hi
[10:46] <XomboX> can anyone tell me, how to run a console program on the background? I mean without seeking output of the program.
[10:46] <ikonia> XomboX: pipe the output to /dev/null eg: ./program >/dev/null
[10:47] <ikonia> XomboX: or background it with ./program &
[10:47] <stoone> XomboX: program &
[10:47] <arooni-mobile> what is difference between vmware's server & workstation product?
[10:47] <ikonia> arooni-mobile /join #vmwarehq
[10:47] <ikonia> arooni-mobile: /join #vmware sorry
[10:47] <XomboX> yea, cool. Thats it!! THANK you :-)
[10:48] <nikolam> XomboX: Try using screen. screen is application to start and manage multiple terminals/processes and you can attach/detach from them without need to run X
[10:48] <xda> is there a program that lets me click on the desktop and it would tell me the color code? like #000000
[10:48] <ikonia> xda: I don't think so, but take a screen shot and use the eye dropped in gimp
[10:48] <ikonia> dropper
[10:49] <xda> hm
[10:49] <xda> thx
[10:49] <stoone> xda: agave for example can do that too.
[10:49] <xda> agave
[10:49] <xda> ?
[10:49] <nikolam> xda: you can press printscreen on keyboard and fo new>paste in Gimp Then see what color it is
[10:49] <dystopianray> arooni-mobile: you need windows for serious web development testing
[10:50] <nikolam> dystopianray: he can use emulated windows in Xen or so for testing, its the same thing
[10:50] <arooni-mobile> dystopianray, is it enough to have vmware installed?
[10:50] <arooni-mobile> and install windwos that way
[10:50] <arooni-mobile> i really hate windows
[10:50] <ikonia> nikolam no substitue for the real thing
[10:50] <dystopianray> arooni-mobile: if you install windows in it, sure
[10:51] <arooni-mobile> dystopianray, do you know what differencee between vmware's workstation and server product is?
[10:51] <binhbanhbao> but I need to relate members of 4 vn! whom able to Please kindly talk privately! thank
[10:51] <nikolam> ikonia: I disagree. It IS the same thing. OS that runs in VM does not even know where it is running. It is suitable for almost everything, but driver development
[10:51] <dystopianray> arooni-mobile: workstation costs money, just use vmware player
[10:51] <ikonia> nikolam I don't disagree with that at all
[10:51] <arooni-mobile> dystopianray, what about vmware server?
[10:51] <arooni-mobile> is vmware server == vmware player
[10:51] <dystopianray> arooni-mobile: no
[10:51] <ikonia> arooni-mobile join #vmware
[10:52] <arooni-mobile> they aren't answering any qs :(
[10:52] <ikonia> binhbanhbao just ask your question
[10:52] <dystopianray> arooni-mobile: vmware server is significantly more complicated and has a client-server architecture
[10:52] <ikonia> arooni-mobile then wait
[10:52] <dystopianray> arooni-mobile: just get vmware player
[10:52] <arooni-mobile> so you'd reccomend player over all other choices
[10:52] <arooni-mobile> ok
[10:52] <dystopianray> yes
[10:52] <dystopianray> or workstation if you want to pay for it
[10:52] <nikolam> arooni-mobile: You can also use Xen or Qemu, besides VmWare (closed source)
[10:53] <arooni-mobile> nikolam, whats the best one to use?
[10:53] <databuddy> !paste
[10:53] <stoone> arooni-mobile: or you can use VirtualBox too
[10:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:53] <arooni-mobile> what is a .rpm file?
[10:53] <arooni-mobile> is that another type of archive?
[10:53] <dystopianray> nikolam: qemu is easy to use, just install it from the repos and go
[10:54] <SoCo> hi there!
[10:54] <dystopianray> arooni-mobile: .rpm is a read hat package manager file, like a .deb for red hat and other distros that use it
[10:54] <psyphen> arooni-mobile: i personally use virtualbox if you're wanting an open source virtualisation solution on a windows system
[10:54] <ikonia> arooni-mobile rpm is a package meant for rpm based distros like redhat and fedora
[10:54] <detra> Hi ... can anyone recommend a way to install my nvidia drivers ? Every single time I've tried my ubuntu has crashed and I had to spent several hours getting it back up ... And I've followed the guides on the internet ...
[10:54] <dystopianray> arooni-mobile: how does virtualbox differ from qemu?
[10:54] <dystopianray> detra: what card do you have?
[10:54] <ikonia> detra what version of ubuntu are you using and what nvidia card do you have
[10:54] <arooni-mobile> dystopianray, surely you're not asking me that ;p
[10:55] <hume> detra, tried the restricted-drivers interface?
[10:55] <dystopianray> arooni-mobile: oh sorry wrong person
[10:55] <detra> hume, yes
[10:55] <dystopianray> psyphen: what is the difference between virtualbox and qemu?
[10:55] <detra> dystopianray, Geforce 7600 GS
[10:55] <arooni-mobile> usually i access my webapp via http://localhost:3000/........ when i put vmware on ... how will i get to this URL?
[10:55] <ikonia> !nvidia >detra
[10:55] <psyphen> dystopianray: funtionally the same but just a little more fancy interface-wise
[10:55] <detra> ikonia, Feisty 7.04 or ???
[10:55] <ikonia> detra: read that link and it will walk you through it
[10:56] <detra> !nvidia
[10:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:56] <dystopianray> arooni-mobile: depends on how you setup the vmware network
[10:56] <binhbanhbao> please salute! I need to procure members of 4 VN! Wait my which of everybody know please pointed dm! thank!
[10:56] <dystopianray> arooni-mobile: but you'll probalby just do: http://<your-lan-ip>:3000/
[10:56] <bigbang14> where is the open office irc channel?
[10:56] <ikonia> binhbanhbao as the question
[10:56] <ikonia> bigbang14 #openoffice
[10:56] <dystopianray> !ask | binhbanhbao
[10:56] <ubotu> binhbanhbao: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:56] <ikonia> binhbanhbao: ask the question
[10:57] <arooni-mobile> dystopianray, but i have dynamic iP :(
[10:57] <detra> ikonia, thx
[10:57] <detra> ikonia, ill try
[10:57] <arooni-mobile> is there a dyndns client for linux?
[10:57] <dystopianray> arooni-mobile: dynamic on your lan?
[10:57] <ikonia> detra let us know if you have problems
[10:57] <arooni-mobile> oh no i gotcha
[10:57] <dystopianray> arooni-mobile: I am talking about your lan ip
[10:57] <arooni-mobile> i thought you were talking about my external IP
[10:57] <dystopianray> arooni-mobile: or even your lan hostname
[10:57] <arooni-mobile> my router
[10:58] <bigbang14>  ikonia: you sure?
[10:58] <ikonia> bigbang14 sure about what ?
[10:58] <arooni-mobile> what do i need to install winxp ? i need the cd right?
[10:58] <arooni-mobile> that is
[10:58] <arooni-mobile> thats it?
[10:58] <bigbang14> ikonia, it being #openoffice. for support?
[10:59] <dystopianray> arooni-mobile: that's right
[10:59] <ikonia> bigbang14 I believe so
[10:59] <arooni-mobile> if i want to test safari & ie... is there any need to get vista?  or is XP good enough?
[10:59] <arooni-mobile> is virtualbox >> better than >> vmware player?
[10:59] <org_> what package do i need to install for IDENTD to work?
[10:59] <psyphen> arooni-mobile: the cd and at least 1024mb ram and 10gb space. you can test safari and ie on xp just fine
[10:59] <dystopianray> arooni-mobile: xp is fine
[10:59] <org_> i already forwarded 113 into my router. but whats the package i need to install
[11:00] <binhbanhbao> Ask 1 questions! But do no one know h? Lugubrious sadness:((
[11:00] <arooni-mobile> psyphen, so i should make a virtual 10GB drive?  thats the size you reccomend? and i should give virtual machine 1024 megs of ram?
[11:00] <dystopianray> org_: why do you need ident?
[11:00] <arooni-mobile> i have 2GB / core 2 duo / many gigs on my pc
[11:00] <org_> dystopianray, for irc, different networks. I don't want the ~ to show before the ident
[11:00] <psyphen> arooni-mobile: perfect
[11:00] <bigbang14> ikonia: it is #openoffice.org
[11:00] <ikonia> bigbang14 ahh welldone
[11:01] <arooni-mobile> psyphen, it will just use my swap if it needs to right?  i usually almost use up all of my 2GB with running apps & such
[11:02] <binhbanhbao> members of 4 VN since flat qu?n chng phng did they keep peanut returnned where? who' s know Please kindly to pointed dm! thank
[11:02] <dystopianray> binhbanhbao: what is 4 VN?
[11:03] <binhbanhbao> ok
[11:03] <ikonia> binhbanhbao: this is ubuntu support questions only. Ask a question on ubuntu or find a better channel
[11:03] <ikonia> xoz: sounds reasonable
[11:03] <psyphen> arooni-mobile: i hope so. i've never used vmware player. my xp workstation at the company happily runs fedora, gentoo, and ubuntu using virtualbox despite management insisting on purchasing vmware servers
[11:04] <org_> i already forwarded 113 into my router. but whats the package i need to install
[11:04] <org_> for IDENTD
[11:04] <arooni-mobile> psyphen, hmm i'm installing both vmware and virtual box
[11:04] <PikachuTrAiNeR> Does Xubuntu have the ATI bug as well?
[11:04] <PikachuTrAiNeR> Or is it just Ubuntu?
[11:04] <ikonia> org_: what do you mean identd ?
[11:05] <ikonia> org_: as in the unix daemon ?
[11:05] <org_> ident man
[11:05] <ardin> ok, quck question. how would i set /mnt/backup (its a drive, duh) to be able to be read by everyone on the system
[11:05] <org_> i dont know other name
[11:05] <ikonia> PikachuTrAiNeR what ati bug ?
[11:05] <psyphen> arooni-mobile: good idea. it's really up to personal choice
[11:05] <ikonia> org_ ident man ?
[11:05] <ikonia> ardin: chmod 777
[11:05] <PikachuTrAiNeR> The Gnome not loading on ATI Cards thing
[11:05] <ikonia> ardin: thats read write for everyeone
[11:05] <bigbang14> my auto-correct in OO writer only corrects capitalization after a sentence and not at the beginning of a paragraph
[11:06] <PikachuTrAiNeR> On 7.04
[11:06] <ikonia> PikachuTrAiNeR ati has bugs in xorg - not the desktop
[11:06] <binhbanhbao> give inquiry to me! room it is which to inquire and take people!
[11:06] <org_> ikonia, http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/LinuxGuide/linux-identd.html
[11:06] <ardin> ... ikonia uh.. no, thats read write execute.. i want nothing there executed
[11:06] <ikonia> ardin ok so what do you want read only - thats it
[11:07] <arooni-mobile> psyphen, i just installed virtualbox..... how do i run it?  virtualbox doesnt work
[11:07] <Sontax`lap> i still cant get my screan working at 1280x800
[11:07] <PikachuTrAiNeR> Well, does Xubuntu boot properly on ATI cards?
[11:07] <PikachuTrAiNeR> To put it simply.
[11:07] <k4u> arooni-mobile: It should be in the menu under system-tools
[11:07] <ikonia> PikachuTrAiNeR no more / less than ubuntu
[11:07] <Sontax`lap> everything else looks to work on the new kernel
[11:07] <arooni-mobile> i should say ; running 'virtualbox' doesnt work
[11:07] <IdleOne> arooni-mobile: VirtualBox case sensitive
[11:07] <ikonia> ardin: 774 ? read only for everyone ?
[11:07] <k4u> Does anybody know a nice (graphical) ubuntu newsgroups-leecher?
[11:08] <ikonia> IdleOne: tag - your in
[11:08] <punzada> k4u, best one I found is Klibido
[11:08] <punzada> its designed for kde but runs fine in gnome
[11:08] <IdleOne> hehe ikonia not for very long
[11:08] <k4u> punzada: okay, let's install it then:p
[11:09] <arooni-mobile> what do you folks think about dynamic versus fixed size hard drives in virtualbox?
[11:09] <dystopianray> is virtualbox better than qemu?
[11:09] <else-> can anybody recommend a sip software?
[11:09] <ikonia> dystopianray its just personal prefernce
[11:09] <punzada> if you ever used newsbin pro on windows, it's very comparable software
[11:09] <dystopianray> else-: wengophone maybe
[11:09] <else-> thanks dystopianray
[11:09] <dystopianray> ikonia: there must be more to it than that
[11:09] <else-> can i use other sip providers than wengo in wengophone?
[11:09] <ikonia> dystopianray not really, they all seem to have pros/cons
[11:10] <dystopianray> ikonia: what is the disadvantage of virtualbox over qemu?
[11:10] <ikonia> dystopianray god knows
[11:11] <psyphen> arooni-mobile: i only use dynamic drives for fat32 because otherwise fixed will be limited to 2gb on fat32. fixed drives are fine to preset the space you know you're going to use
[11:12] <arooni-mobile> psyphen, does dynamic drive dramatically reduce the speed?  can you switch your mind later?  can you readjust fixed size later?
[11:14] <psyphen> arooni-mobile: i'm not entirely sure. any time i've wanted to adjust the size of a virtual drive i start a new virtual machine and remove the old one. hopefully someone else can be more helpful
[11:15] <k4u> if my cd is partually broke.. kan i put the files on a usb-stick?
[11:16] <ikonia> no
[11:16] <ikonia> burn a new cd
[11:16] <k4u> ikonia: i have no more cd r's left...
[11:16] <ikonia> buy some
[11:16] <clouder> when adding myself to a new group, do I have to reboot or just log all instances of myself out?
[11:17] <ikonia> log out and back int
[11:17] <ikonia> in
[11:17] <clouder> thanks
[11:17] <luitvd> hi
[11:18] <luitvd> i'm sorry to ask here, but which channel should I use to ask stuff about the gutsy beta?
[11:18] <ikonia> luitvd: ubuntu+1
[11:18] <Javid>  luitvd, #ubuntu+1
[11:18] <Javid> I win because mine has a # in it. <3
[11:18] <luitvd> thanks to you both :)
[11:18] <luitvd> bye
[11:19] <Bo^Dick> does ubuntu normally detect hardware?
[11:19] <ikonia> Bo^Dick: what do you mean ?
[11:19] <Bo^Dick> i mean auto detect
[11:19] <ikonia> when,
[11:19] <ikonia> install, real time, hotplug ?
[11:19] <ikonia> what type of hardware
[11:20] <Bo^Dick> graphics card, sound cards and stuff
[11:20] <Bo^Dick> i've plugged in a soundblaster audigy 2 card
[11:20] <ikonia> Bo^Dick: it will attempt detection at install
[11:20] <Bo^Dick> so i have to tell ubuntu that theres actually soundblaster card in the machine
[11:21] <arooni-mobile> psyphen, know how to solve this: The VirtualBox kernel driver is not accessible to the current user. Make sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them to the vboxusers groups. You will need to logout for the change to take effect..  ?  how do i add chasetoys to this user group
[11:21] <ikonia> Bo^Dick: no it should be aware, but it may have issues if you've config'd the old card
[11:21] <arooni-mobile> i.e. how can i add my user to the vboxusers group?
[11:22] <Bo^Dick> i've installed a fresh ubuntu with all the hardware in
[11:22] <Bo^Dick> i'm using an asus geforce extreme card
[11:22] <Bo^Dick> for graphics
[11:22] <Bo^Dick> the default resolution appeared to be 1024x768
[11:22] <ikonia> arooni-mobile use the user manager gui
[11:22] <desertc> Hello - I am trying to generate my key with launchpad.  Is there a channel I can ask about that?
[11:23] <ikonia> desertc: the instructions are on luanchpad
[11:23] <arooni-mobile> ikonia, where is the user manager gui
[11:23] <ikonia> arooni-mobile systems --> administration
[11:23] <desertc> ikonia, not on the page where I am having trouble which is the email verification clear text generation
[11:23] <ikonia> desertc post a link to the page your reading
[11:24] <Bo^Dick> ikonia: should i try to get the ubuntu drivers for each hardware and install them myself?
[11:24] <desertc> ikonia: Please paste a clear-signed copy of the following phrase into the box below. This can be achieved by saving the phrase to a file and running gpg --clearsign FILENAME.
[11:24] <ikonia> Bo^Dick: the drivers are part of the kernel
[11:24] <ikonia> desertc post a link to the page your reading
[11:24] <arooni-mobile> ikonia, does:  sudo -a chasetoys vboxusers    effectively do the same thing?
[11:24] <ikonia> arooni-mobile no
[11:24] <desertc> ikonia, one sec
[11:25] <arooni-mobile> ikonia, do i need to logout / login to apply changes
[11:25] <ikonia> arooni-mobile no
[11:25] <Bo^Dick> ikonia: should i try to update the kernel so that ubuntu knows the exact hardware details?
[11:25] <arooni-mobile> if so is that a ctrl + alt + delete job?
[11:25] <bascule> arooni-mobile: no
[11:25] <ikonia> Bo^Dick: no, what makes you think your hardware is a problem
[11:25] <Burdon> Hi Guys
[11:25] <xcst> ok
[11:26] <Bo^Dick> ikonia: i couldn't select a resolution higher than 1024x768
[11:26] <ikonia> !nvidia >Bo^Dick
[11:26] <ikonia> Bo^Dick: read that link
[11:26] <xcst> im now running ubuntu
[11:26] <desertc> ikonia, disregard - I've got it now
[11:26] <Burdon> Can anyone tell me, where I can get a driver for my Canon Pixma Printer?
[11:27] <ikonia> Burdon canon don't support their printers in linux
[11:27] <Burdon> for Ubuntu, of course
[11:27] <Bo^Dick> ikonia: thanks
[11:27] <Burdon> sh**
[11:27] <Burdon> ok thx
[11:27] <ikonia> ok
[11:27] <MannyZ> what is the command to open sources.list?????+
[11:27] <ikonia> Burdon: is there any need for bad langauge
[11:27] <Burdon> No way?
[11:27] <Burdon> I'm sorry
[11:27] <ikonia> MannyZ any text editor, nano, vi , emacs etc
[11:28] <MannyZ> wtf...
[11:28] <MannyZ> what is the command to open sources.list?
[11:28] <ikonia> MannyZ: drop the language
[11:28] <ikonia> MannyZ: I've just told you the command, ANY text editor your want
[11:28] <nicklas_> Hi!
[11:28] <ikonia> MannyZ: or use the "software sources" gui
[11:28] <MannyZ> ohh..
[11:28] <MannyZ> my screen is blurry S:
[11:28] <MannyZ> it looked like wrong :S
[11:29] <nicklas_> I got some problem with installing updates.
[11:29] <punzada> what's the issue?
[11:29] <MannyZ> my screen is blurred.. cant really see what you type in..
[11:30] <topo> hello
[11:30] <topo> do anybody here have tried installing ubuntu on macbook pro?
[11:31] <Guest56106> what is a NTFS filesystem type for mount command
[11:31] <dystopianray> !vmware
[11:31] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[11:32] <brokentire> I have an HP sound problem that is solved http://www.linuxlogin.com/hardware/dv6575us.php but I don't know how to implement it on my machine because I am between a beginner and intermediate
[11:32] <Sontax`lap_> thx every 1 it is working again:D
[11:32] <elwario91> hello
[11:32] <elwario91> i need help with an avi file
[11:32] <topo> hi
[11:32] <ardin> Guest56106: mount -t ntfs-3g devpoint mountpoint
[11:32] <topo> do anybody have tried installing ubuntu on macbook pro?
[11:32] <elwario91> what is the easiest way to add a srt file in it?, tried avidemux but doesn't work :'(
[11:33] <brokentire> can anyone help me with my sound problem?
[11:33] <nicklas_> I got some problem with installing updates.
[11:33] <ikonia> nicklas_ what is the problem
[11:35] <topo> fuck you
[11:35] <brokentire> I have an HP sound problem that is solved http://www.linuxlogin.com/hardware/dv6575us.php but I don't know how to implement it on my machine because I am between a beginner and intermediate
[11:35] <jussi01> !ntfs | Guest56106
[11:35] <arooni> anyone familair with virtualbox here?  i set up a new virtual machine but when i insert the XP cd to install xp to it... and i hit f12 to select the CD ROM... i get the error: 'FATAL: Could not read from the boot media! System halted!.'  ... ideas?
[11:35] <ubotu> Guest56106: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:35] <brokentire> can anyone help get sound for me?
[11:35] <nicklas_> iknia:Then I click on the update manager they say that I need to do it for manuell "dpkg -- -a" something.
[11:36] <ikonia> nicklas_ get the exact message
[11:36] <nicklas_> inonia: I will, it will take a while.
[11:36] <brokentire> arooni try mounting the cdrom then rebooting the virtual machine
[11:37] <arooni> brokentire, how do i do that
[11:37] <brokentire> arooni private chat?
[11:37] <k4u> how can i burn an ISO?
[11:38] <Guest56106> when I do grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/root /dev/sda it shows mkdir:cannot create directory '/mnt/root/boot/grub': read only filesystem
[11:39] <nijaba_> hello. Is it only me or there is a problem wih nvdia card with this morning upgrade of gutsy ?
[11:39] <arooni> wow
[11:39] <arooni> this VM thing is PRETTY DAMN NIFTY
[11:40] <Guest56106> how can i fix this, I am trying to recover my grub
[11:40] <brokentire> arooni: do you know how to read private messages with your irc client?
[11:40] <Guest56106> I am following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf3232f10ddf1b078de064622ccbb25225cdb3c0
[11:41] <MeRodent> !gutsy | nijaba_
[11:41] <ubotu> nijaba_: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[11:41] <Guest56106> and getting this error
[11:41] <Guest56106> when I do grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/root /dev/sda it shows mkdir:cannot create directory '/mnt/root/boot/grub': read only filesystem
[11:41] <MannyZ> what is the command to restart Xorg.conf?
[11:41] <arooni> brokentire, yes
[11:41] <Mia75> hi all
[11:41] <mechdave> Guest56106, how have you booted the rescue disk?
[11:41] <MannyZ> what is the command to restart Xorg.conf?
[11:42] <brokentire> arooni: try sending me a private message then I can help you with vertialbox
[11:42] <stdin> !X | MannyZ
[11:42] <ubotu> MannyZ: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:42] <murlidhar> i am not able to compile linkage torrent client . can anybody help me it gives me errors /  No package 'libtorrent' found
[11:42] <murlidhar> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[11:42] <murlidhar> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[11:42] <arooni> brokentire, did you see my msg ? i sent you one
[11:42] <nijaba_> MeRodent:: and if nobody test gutsy, it won't be very good when it launches, right ?
[11:42] <Guest56106> mechdave:no I am using the livecd Ubuntu
[11:42] <MeRodent> nijaba_, the problem is that you need to ask questions regarding gutsy on #ubuntu+1
[11:42] <DaBeowulf> Hey, does choosing VESA and 24 bit result in my monitor getting no signal, or how do I properly choose VESA to actually work for X?
[11:42] <murlidhar> how to adjust PKG_CONFIG_PATH
[11:42] <nijaba_> MeRodent: ok, will do
[11:42] <mechdave> Guest56106, Ok well you need to first mount your file system on your hard disk
[11:43] <nijaba_> MeRodent: thanks
[11:43] <nicklas_> ikonia: http://rafb.net/p/dAqkEJ70.html
[11:43] <MeRodent> nijaba_, no probs. Hopefully someone there can help.
 I did everythign according to this link
[11:43] <Guest56106> I am following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf3232f10ddf1b078de064622ccbb25225cdb3c0
[11:43] <mechdave> Guest56106, Hang on shall read link... standby
[11:43] <murlidhar> ikonia: could u help me compiling an application
[11:43] <bascule> murlidhar: export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/some/path
[11:44] <brokentire> I have an HP sound problem that is solved http://www.linuxlogin.com/hardware/dv6575us.php but I don't know how to implement it on my machine because I am between a beginner and intermediate
[11:44] <DaBeowulf> bah learning by doing
[11:44] <murlidhar> bascule: err could be more specific
[11:44] <Mia75> how long should it take to check a 500gb disk formatted with ext3?
[11:44] <bascule> Mia75: long time
[11:45] <bascule> murlidhar: that was an exact answer to your question :)
[11:45] <arooni> brokentire, are you nog getting my PMs?
[11:45] <Mia75> is there a way around this - because i've been waiting for about 2 hours now and i'm nowhere near complleyte
[11:45] <murlidhar> bascule: thnks i am tryin
[11:45] <Ind[y] > How can I view ASCII characters with gedit? (I mean characters with ordinal numbers like 128, 129, etc).
[11:45] <bascule> Mia75: full check disks take a long time, thats all there is to it ...
[11:46] <nicklas_> Good bye!
[11:46] <Ind[y] > I see boxes with numbers instead of characters.
[11:47] <brokentire> arooni: I am not getting your PM's
[11:47] <brokentire> arooni: try /join #brokentire
[11:47] <Mia75> bascule: thanks.  is this made worse becuase it's ext3?
[11:48] <murlidhar> bascule: thnks i have done it but now it says to install me libnotify0.4.4 and i can't find it using apt-get install.
[11:49] <dshuang001> hi, all
[11:50] <brokentire> I have an HP sound problem that is solved http://www.linuxlogin.com/hardware/dv6575us.php but I don't know how to implement it on my machine because I am between a beginner and intermediate
[11:50] <bascule> murlidhar: well you probably need the -dev version of libnotify
[11:50] <bascule> murlidhar: what are you building and why?
[11:50] <mechdave> Guest56106, brb
[11:51] <murlidhar> i am building linkage torrent client and  i am building cuz there is no binary version of it
[11:51] <Keule|On> hi there
[11:51] <Keule|On> is here someone who can help with dvb-t cards?
[11:51] <Keule|On> terratec hybrid xs
[11:51] <brokentire> I have an HP sound problem that is solved http://www.linuxlogin.com/hardware/dv6575us.php but I don't know how to implement it on my machine because I am between a beginner and intermediate
[11:51] <bascule> !repeat | brokentire
[11:51] <ubotu> brokentire: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:51] <Dmitry_> what is a good partition manager for windows, apart from partition magic? i need to manage my ubuntu partitions, since i'm running low on space.
[11:52] <dshuang001> I don't know how to install MP3 codec, pls advise me. I am using ubuntu 6.06
[11:52] <bascule> !codecs | dshuang001
[11:52] <ubotu> dshuang001: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:52] <brokentire> ubotu ok
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
 are you there
[11:52] <bascule> brokentire: ubotu is a bot:)
[11:53] <brokentire> I know
[11:53] <bascule> k
[11:53] <Guest56106> when I do grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/root /dev/sda it shows mkdir:cannot create directory '/mnt/root/boot/grub': read only filesystem
[11:53] <murlidhar> bascule: could u please compile it urself cuz there are so many things neccessary to install . One of my friends is using it in fedora  and i liked it very much
[11:53] <dshuang001> ubotu, thanks, i will check it.
[11:53] <brokentire> Ive been searching and searching for an answer to my problem
[11:53] <murlidhar> dshuang001: :)
[11:54] <brokentire> I believe I found the solution...but I am not skilled enough to impliment it....I dont understand compiling drivers
[11:54] <bascule> brokentire: it's one of those things that is so difficult to take people through that I/we avoid it if we can
[11:55] <murlidhar> dshuang001: ubotu is a bot means it is a robot like software not a human
[11:55] <brokentire> bascule: I am not a beginnner beginner
[11:55] <bascule> ok
[11:56] <W1ZrD> Could anyone point me towards some guide regarding ati 9250 and beryl, as for a working solution?
[11:56] <brokentire> bascule otherwise I wouldnt realize that what I found was a solution to my problem
[11:57] <moreati> Dmitry_: I use gparted on a Linux live CD such as Knoppix. I think the Ubuntu Live CD/installer cd also has gparted, but you must run it from a shell.
[11:57] <hollandlucas_> moreati: It does have gparted
[11:57] <jimcooncat> brokentire: have you read these posts? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=489757&page=7
[11:58] <murlidhar> bascule: http://code.google.com/p/linkage/wiki/Installation
[11:58] <ratpoison> W1ZrD: best plan (stability-wise) is to wait for gutsy gibbon (i.e. the next version of ubuntu) It will be very simple then, since it will be integrated to the OS (if you install just a couple of packages)
[11:58] <Dmitry_> moreati: i'd like to take that step if i'm unsuccessful at doing it on windows. i've never used gparted before, and if it is only a command-line interface on the live CD, i'd rather avoid it, unless i have no other choice.
[11:59] <brokentire> jimcooncat I could try that ...thx
[11:59] <W1ZrD> ratpoison: i.e in 12 days?
[11:59] <MeRodent> Dmitry_, gparted is launched from command line "sudo gparted" but is a graphical partition manager.
[11:59] <ratpoison> W1ZrD: if all goes according to plan, yup
[11:59] <Dmitry_> merodent: is gparted installed by default in feisty fawn?
[11:59] <W1ZrD> ratpoison: looking forward to it :)
[12:00] <dshuang001> ubotu i get the erroe message :E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate. I enabled multiverse and universe for all sources.
[12:00] <Lon> hey there :)
[12:00] <desertc> I can't get my Launchpad Wiki working.  It errors, saying I don't have access to edit my own page.  What's going on?
[12:00] <MeRodent> Dmitry_, I beleive it is also in system administration gnome partition manager on livecd. otherwise    sudo apt-get install gparted
[12:00] <Guest56106> how can i change the permission of a folder in linux command
[12:00] <arooni__> hey folks
[12:01] <arooni__> my taskbar is gone
[12:01] <arooni__> how do ig et it back
[12:01] <arooni__> it lists running programs & such
[12:01] <bascule> murlidhar: well I can try, but I am going out soon, and I need 24MB of stuff for gtkmm ...
[12:01] <MeRodent> Dmitry_, to clarify. gparted is not installed by default on feisty but is on the feisty livecd.
[12:01] <MeRodent> !enter | arooni_
[12:01] <ubotu> arooni_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:01] <moreati> Dmitry_: seconded I remember seeing that, now MeRodent mentions it
[12:01] <arooni__> sorry MeRodent
[12:01] <ratpoison> W1ZrD: there is a way now, and it's no biggie, but there is a possibility ithat it might cause instabilities, when you upgrade your distribution
[12:01] <ok21> how can i change the permission of a folder in linux command
[12:01] <bascule> murlidhar: problem 2, I am running gutsy
[12:02] <Dmitry_> MeRodent, would i have to boot the live cd, and then use gparted from there?
[12:02] <ok21> I want to create folder inside it
[12:02] <murlidhar> bascule: ooh well thnks no problem
[12:02] <Dmitry_> MeRodent, would i have to enter any credentials?
[12:02] <Dmitry_> moreati, ok.
[12:02] <MeRodent> arooni_, right click on the panel   choose add to panel and then select notification area
[12:02] <W1ZrD> ratpoison: I've been running it before the merge but I simply forgot how to make it run with ATI's 9250 card :/
[12:02] <MeRodent> Dmitry_, you have sudo access without password from livecd
[12:03] <Dmitry_> MeRodent, ok. i guess i'll try that now. thanks. :)
[12:03] <moreati> ok21: what is folder you want to create things inside
[12:03] <Shrapnelhunter> I have x64 Feisty and I can't get a driver for my nVidia graphics card to install - can I apt it?
[12:03] <MeRodent> Dmitry_, you can install onto feisty and you will need your sudo password as well
[12:03] <arooni> MeRodent, ok i did that... nothing happens :(
[12:03] <desertc> Shrapnelhunter, Use the Restricted Driver manager
[12:04] <arooni> MeRodent, i want the thing thats on the bottom of the window... that lists running programs
[12:04] <arooni> there used to be a bar there
[12:04] <Shrapnelhunter> okies
[12:04] <desertc> Shrapnelhunter, I have AMD64 Feisty and the driver works okay (except for kernel upgrades.... sigh)
[12:04] <Shrapnelhunter> desertc: I've got a stupid intel :(
[12:04] <moreati> arooni Same procedure, but choose Window List
[12:05] <MeRodent> arooni, you can add the notification applet to any of the panels.
[12:05] <Kaja> Intel is not stupid =(
[12:05] <murlidhar> bascule: could u look at this and help me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39750/
[12:05] <arooni> MeRodent, ok that works but how do i 'pull' that window list down to be a separate panel that is on the bottom of my screen
[12:06] <murlidhar> bascule: sorry sent u a wrong pastebin
[12:06] <bascule> murlidhar: ah
[12:06] <ok21> how can I change the permission of a folder so that it can be read and write into using linux commands
[12:06] <MeRodent> arooni, right select it from the bottom panel. the add to panel applies to the panel you select it from.
[12:06] <hetauma> any ideas how ubuntu creates the initial xorg.conf? how it detects monitor gfx card and suitable resolution ? can I run that again
[12:06] <moreati> ok21: as I asked before, what is the location of this folder?
[12:06] <arooni> MeRodent, but i dont even have a bottom panel to select it from
[12:06] <Shrapnelhunter> desetc: thanks a million!!!!!
[12:06] <MeRodent> arooni, otherwise right select and choose move.
[12:06] <desertc> Shrapnelhunter, you betcha
[12:07] <MeRodent> arooni, right select and choose new panel
[12:07] <murlidhar> bascule: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39751/
[12:07] <moreati> hetauma: this is a guess, but I think xorg itself creates it. Possibly with a particular command line switch.
[12:07] <ok21> its /mnt/root/boot
[12:07] <MeRodent> arooni, select the panel and choose properties to move a panel.
[12:08] <Tavathlon> Hello all. I have a major problem with the updates this morning - it made my drivers for the graphics card disappear, and my keyboard layout switched to English. Might be more issues, I don't know yet. Anyway, trying to reach the restricted drivers manager, it tells me the following: "You need to install the package  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-13-generic  for this program to work.". So I tried to do that, but that package is not to be foun
[12:08] <ratpoison> W1ZrD: check your private, I have posted more detailed explanation  there
[12:08] <MeRodent> Tavathlon, Gutsy? if so #ubuntu+1
[12:09] <Tavathlon> MeRodent: thanks, I'll go to that room then..  =)
[12:09] <moreati> ok21: If you're doing things at the command line you need to put sudo infront of commands to run them as root: eg sudo mkdir /mnt/root/boot/newfolder
[12:09] <bascule> murlidhar: Requested 'libnotify >= 0.4.4' but version of libnotify is 0.4.3 <-- yor in trouble now, this involves building a newer version of this package, not recommende, cause it will probably break things that depend on notify (lots of things)
[12:09] <Burdon> ikonia: There are no drivers for Canon, aha: http://www.erlandertervueren.com/ubuntu/ip4300_guide/
[12:10] <murlidhar> bascule: as u said i installed libnotify-dev and it says it is already installed
[12:10] <bascule> it is, but it wants a newer version
[12:10] <W1ZrD> ratpoison: I haven't got any PM from you :/
[12:12] <murlidhar> bascule: if i install libnotify not a default ? i mean can't i install both the versions . the older version at default location and the newer verion at PKG_CONFIG_PATH something like that
[12:12] <ratpoison> W1ZrD: http://pastebin.com/m4f5ddf04
[12:14] <bascule> murlidhar: conflicting versions of packages are the road to ruin, trust me here
[12:14] <murlidhar> bascule: strange when fedora repos can have linkage then why can't our repos have
[12:14] <W1ZrD> ratpoison: brilliant, thanks a lot mate :)
[12:14] <murlidhar> :(
[12:14] <bascule> murlidhar: well different priorities, different distros
[12:14] <murlidhar> :(
[12:15] <tokj> or different distros, different priorities :P
[12:15] <murlidhar> tokj: whatever:(
[12:15] <bascule> murlidhar: there is one other thing you can try, alien is a command tht can install rpms, I have never used it but explore it as a possible solution ... :)
[12:15] <salomon> Who can help me with a microphone? I've tried the Gnome Alsamixer, but still, when I want to record sound with Audacity, i can't. It just doens't record...
[12:16] <tokj> portage has rpm and rpm2targz script
[12:16] <NTAuthority> salomon: does audcaity give an error about sound devices?
[12:16] <murlidhar> bascule: i searched for rpms but couldn't find it any idea?
[12:16] <NTAuthority> salomon: or does it just not record anything?
[12:16] <bascule> tokj: yeah, but it doesn't need them really, and lets not go promoting the g* thingy any further shall we ..
[12:17] <bascule> murlidhar: well if fedora can yum it, it's in their repos, grab it off some mirror and caryy on from there
[12:17] <tokj> bascule: dammit, i've mistaken the channel O.O
[12:17] <lastlemming> 7.10 RC will out this thurday right?
[12:17] <tokj> bascule: sorry :P
[12:17] <bascule> tokj: heh, :))
[12:18] <murlidhar> bascule: i will try
[12:18] <tokj> bascule: really, i thought that i was in #gentoo and not in #ubuntu
[12:18] <tiger_> At which runtime level does ubuntu boot by default ? I can't figure it out since there is no /etc/inittab !!
[12:19] <chuxxsss> Im having problems setting up my 3d driver stuff with ubuntu have install nvidia driver software but opengl will not start? have a MX440 agp card
[12:20] <b4d> hi, I have wired problem, ubuntu 7.04 and VIM 7.0.235, i can't get the syntax highlighting to work with syntax on in .vimrc it says on vim startup that it's not the right parameter, but on my fedora with same vim version it works
[12:20] <ikonia> chuxxsss: you may need the nvidia-old package
[12:21] <chuxxsss> ok
[12:22] <chuxxsss> is that the Legacy one? ikonia
[12:22] <chuxxsss> ikonia:that the one I have installed now
[12:23] <ikonia> yeah
[12:23] <ikonia> thats right
[12:23] <ikonia> chuxxsss: what sort of problems are you havingt
[12:23] <ikonia> having
[12:25] <Hornet> Greetings.  Rather dire bug here, seems to be this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/107516 .  What's the best solution out of the proposed, as I'm not sure what they do I really don't want to blindly apply them.  I'm sitting here watching kern.log , /var/logs/messages, and /var/logs/syslog grow by about half a meg every second. O_O
[12:25] <hetauma> hmm after working about an hour with 640x480 now letters in 1280x1024 look soooooooooo small :D
[12:26] <CountX> Grub Error 17 :(
[12:26] <chuxxsss> ikonia:opengl will not open when I have legacy propriety driver selected.  Opengl has not work yet on ubuntu it would on SUSE for me but SUSE was not as good as ubuntu.
[12:26] <b4d> okay about vim, i got the solution, i had to install vim-runtime, cause ubuntu doest do it by default :)
[12:27] <CountX> anyone know how to fix grub error 17?
[12:27] <CountX> cant boot up...
[12:27] <ok21> CountX:same problem here dude
[12:27] <oblon> hello
[12:27] <Crozar> guys how to rem ove grub
[12:27] <Dmitry_> Crozar, bcdtools
[12:27] <ok21> CountX:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-68342fc2e30d51fa0aa6f5bf16c911dd8d3663c6
[12:27] <Dmitry_> *gets guide*
[12:27] <ikonia> chuxxsss: can you explain what you mean by opengl is not working
[12:28] <Crozar> im fed up with grub who wants to dual boot when virtualbox is available heh....
[12:28] <Dmitry_> moreati: used the live cd, opened gparted, attempted at shrinking one partition, but i was told to scan that partition for errors and fix them if possible. tried extending this partition, and the same thing occurred. now, reverting to the original plan, do you know any partition managers for windows that would help me do the job?
[12:28] <shooyaaa> is there someone form china
[12:28] <ikonia> Dmitry_: partition manager
[12:29] <ikonia> partition magic sorry
[12:29] <Dmitry_> ikonia, a little more precise please. :P
[12:29] <Dmitry_> nope
[12:29] <Dmitry_> partition magic doesn't work on vista
[12:29] <Crozar> Dmitry_: Partition Magic
[12:29] <Dmitry_> anything apart from that?
[12:29] <ikonia> Dmitry_ the latest version does
[12:29] <Burdon> ikonia
[12:29] <ikonia> Dmitry_: ask inm ##windows
[12:29] <ikonia> Burdon: yes
[12:29] <Crozar> Dmitry_: www.isohunt.com click on bittorent ont he search then type Partition magic download version 8
[12:29] <familie> I got problems Installing a Lexmark X1250 Printer, can anybody help me?
[12:29] <Burdon> ikonia: For your information: http://www.erlandertervueren.com/ubuntu/ip4300_guide/
[12:29] <oblon> I have a problem with ldap client on ubuntu 7.04,he can't mount usb peripherical automaticly I add plugdev group on /etc/security/group but the problem are the same
[12:30] <Dmitry_> Crozar, "If instead of GRUB you want Vista's bootloader to be in charge, load up the Vista installation and install EasyBCD. Go to Manage Bootloader, then Reinstall the Vista Bootloader, an GRUB is overwritten. You can then configure the Vista bootloader to add Linux to the boot menu."
[12:30] <chuxxsss> ikonia:Kinfocenter gives me a error if I try looking at OpenGL it will not initialize OpenGL.
[12:30] <Burdon> there are drivers for linux
[12:30] <Crozar> guys where can i find bcdtools?
[12:30] <Dmitry_> from a dualboot vista and linux guide.
[12:30] <Dmitry_> easybcd, sorry. :P
[12:30] <familie> Burdon, did you talk to me?
[12:30] <ikonia> Burdon that seems resonalbe
[12:30] <Dmitry_> Crozar, wait.
[12:30] <Burdon> no familie
[12:30] <Dmitry_> firstly, is your other OS vista?
[12:30] <Crozar> Dmitry_: i want to remove grub i dont like to dualboot i left windows 1 year ago
[12:30] <familie> :(
[12:31] <Crozar> Dmitry_: im not going back to windows any more lol i have all i want in ubuntu , i can run microsoft office 2008 here and much more things
[12:31] <familie> Crozar, just format the windows partition and use it e.g. for pr0n
[12:31] <Dmitry_> Crozar, i see.
[12:31] <oblon> somebody can help me
[12:31] <Dmitry_> Crozar, in that case, sorry. can't help
[12:31] <Crozar> i want to remove grub guys any idea's
[12:31] <ikonia> Crozar: there is no such thing as office 2008
[12:31] <Crozar> i mean office 2007 =p
[12:31] <Dmitry_> ikonia, thanks.
[12:31] <Crozar> lol i just wokeup chill ikonia
[12:31] <ikonia> Crozar overwrite your boot sector with another boot loader
[12:32] <Crozar> cant i remove grub?
[12:32] <Dmitry_> Crozar, regarding partition magic, also thanks. i'll go have a look.
[12:32] <Dmitry_> you can.
[12:32] <ikonia> Crozar yes you can, over write it
[12:32] <Crozar> i dont want a bootloader i want ubuntu to be booted just like that
[12:32] <ikonia> Crozar you need a boot loader to boot any OS
[12:32] <Dmitry_> try lilo!
[12:32] <lastlemming> no display bootloader you mean?
[12:32] <familie> I got problems Installing a Lexmark X1250 Printer, can anybody help me?
[12:33] <Crozar> ikonia: i have a question im asking it behalf of my friend , he has a laptop with about 5 partitions all used , he has 1 of the partitions 50 GB he wanted to use 20 GB for ubuntu but ubuntu didnt have the manual option to make that must he do it through parition magic?
[12:33] <familie> Crozar, ... install gparted in order to remove your win32 partition.. or just edit the GRUB config
[12:33] <Dmitry_> Crozar, why not just make ubuntu the default OS to boot, and set timeout 0 seconds to choose?
[12:33] <Dmitry_> i'm guessing then you won't even see grub.
[12:33] <gordonjcp> !ask | familie
[12:33] <ubotu> familie: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:33] <ikonia> Crozar resizing any partition through any software carries a risk, you can use whatever partition tools you wish
[12:33] <Crozar> Dmitry_: how to do that/
[12:33] <familie> gordonjcp, then help me to set up this printer
[12:33] <Dmitry_> Crozar, two seconds.
[12:33] <ikonia> Crozar change the timeout in menu.lst to 1
[12:33] <Crozar> ikonia: whats the best thing to do then for my friends laptop
[12:33] <ikonia> Crozar or use the "hiddenmenu" option
[12:34] <Crozar> ikonia: from we're ? in dos mode?
[12:34] <gordonjcp> familie: no
[12:34] <ikonia> Crozar I've just told you what to do with your friends manual
[12:34] <Crozar> ikonia:  on my start up
[12:34] <Dmitry_> Crozar, http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first
[12:34] <gordonjcp> familie: I don't know what problem you're having
[12:34] <Dmitry_> Crozar, ignore the mention of windows.
[12:34] <ikonia> Crozar dos mode ??? what are you talking about
[12:34] <Crozar> i mean on startup ikonia
[12:34] <Dmitry_> Crozar, find the line...
[12:34] <Shrapnelhunter>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[12:34] <ikonia> Crozar: change the line "timeout" in /boot/grub/menu.lst to "1"
[12:34] <Dmitry_> Crozar, Ctrl+F and find Configure GRUB
[12:34] <Dmitry_> Crozar, then have a read there.
[12:34] <ikonia> Crozar: or read the grub docs on "hiddenemenu" option
[12:35] <Hornet> Greetings.  Rather dire bug here, seems to be this one, or very similar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/107516 .  What's the best solution out of the proposed, as I'm not sure what they do I really don't want to blindly apply them.  I'm sitting here watching kern.log , /var/logs/messages, and /var/logs/syslog grow by about half a meg every second.  Is there any chance to install windows drivers?
[12:35] <StatusD> apache 1.3 php module
[12:35] <Crozar> ikonia: how can my friend install ubuntu now?
[12:35] <ikonia> familie: that language is uncalled for and it is the best way to get banned
[12:35] <familie> I hate this... Not even the simples printer drivers :X
[12:35] <ikonia> Crozar use the install cd
[12:35] <Crozar> ikonia: ur saying resizeing is a risk
[12:35] <ikonia> Crozar yes
[12:36] <Crozar> ikonia: install cd cant do it
[12:36] <StatusD> what is the package name for Apache 1.3 PHP module??
[12:36] <Crozar> ikonia: its not familier with the process maybe because no body set it up for that kind of task
[12:36] <ikonia> Crozar the install cd will install fine
[12:36] <tarelerulz> Do any of you know how to make it so you can have mulitble media players running and all them  have sound .  I have ran more then one ,but they can't seem to hand more then one running at a time.  I have don it in windows do I not have ubuntu configed right
[12:36] <ikonia> Crozar gparted - the partition tool can and will resize it, however it carries a risk
[12:36] <Crozar> ikonia: install cd said * use entire harddisk , or manual , when i set to manual i dont have the options to resize ect..
[12:36] <gordonjcp> familie: see, why didn't you say that in the first place?
[12:37] <ikonia> Crozar show me a screen shot
[12:37] <gordonjcp> familie: what does Google have to say about it?
[12:37] <Crozar> hmmm ok
[12:37] <Crozar> l8er when i meet with him
[12:37] <chuxxsss> ikonia: I am getting this message about the driver Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:37] <Crozar> il make a small vid on my phone and put it on you tube
[12:37] <ikonia> chuxxsss I see
[12:37] <ikonia> Crozar no
[12:37] <ikonia> Crozar boot from the live cd
[12:37] <ikonia> Crozar take a screen shot
[12:37] <ikonia> Crozar post it on something like image shack
[12:38] <Crozar> ya
[12:38] <IndyGunFreak> man, he nvidia driver went to hell on all those updates in gutsy last night.
[12:38] <ikonia> chuxxsss is xorg using the nvidia driver ?
[12:38] <frylock^> hmmm. i took out my old cd drive and plugged in my new one. ubuntu does not seem to recognize it.
[12:38] <Crozar> ikonia: whats gparted ? worst then partition magic ? why they are on risk? whats the risk ?
[12:38] <ikonia> chuxxsssIndyGunFreak yes it did
[12:38] <chuxxsss> not sure
[12:38] <ikonia> Crozar there are risks with any tool that resize partitions with data on
[12:38] <chuxxsss> yes must be
[12:38] <frylock^> i can see /dev/sdc0 /mount/cdrom0 in my /etc/fstab, however there is no /dev/sdc0
[12:38] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: any idea what happened?... i'm slowly getting mine back together
[12:38] <Crozar> hmm
[12:39] <mysticalzero> HI guys. For some reason i couldn't access my ntfs drive. This picture will show you what i meant. http://mystzero.frih.net/image/others/screenshot1.png. Also, when i took a look at my syslog, there are many repeated errors like "Buffer I/O error on device sda3. I have look through google for solutions but found none. :(  Any ideas what's going on?
[12:39] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak no, I've seen a few problems with 8800 cards
[12:39] <Hornet> ikonia: if it helps, the logs are filling with this: Oct  6 09:53:29 Hades kernel: [ 5312.660000]  ACPI Error (evgpe-0711): No handler or method for GPE[ F] , disabling event [20060707]
[12:39] <familie> gordonjcp, there are only hacks availaible that render my scanner in this al-in-one printer useless..
[12:39] <gordonjcp> familie: bummer
[12:39] <familie> like installing drivers of another product branch
[12:39] <gordonjcp> familie: maybe it's not supported, then
[12:39] <ikonia> Hornet have you added the ec_intr=0 line to your kernel boot options
[12:40] <familie> gobgob, :(
[12:40] <familie> sry was meant for gordonjcp
[12:40] <familie> anway, thank you
[12:40] <Crozar> ikonia: this new laptop of my friends has a featuer when he recovers hes computer it makes 5 partitions ( 1 for swap something ) ( 1 for a recovery cd just for reinstall any missing or error thing ) ( 1 for windows and 10GB ect. for fileswap ) ( 1 for whatever files ) ( and 1 is i guess 300mb and i dont knwo wh ats that for )
[12:40] <gordonjcp> familie: some manufacturers are at best unhelpful and at worst downright hostile to people writing Linux drivers
[12:40] <Hornet> ikonia: I've no idea what it does, that's mainly why I'm here.  I don't want to blindly add things to the kernel options without know what they do.
[12:40] <tarelerulz> When I run mplayer for terminal I can have totem playing someting and mplayer playing something else and when I run mplayer from the menu it says it can't not open/initialize the audio device
[12:40] <gordonjcp> familie: unfortunately Lexmark fall into the latter category
[12:41] <ikonia> Crozar then don't mess with the partitions if you don't know what they are for
[12:41] <ikonia>                    worst downright hostile to people writing Linux drivers
[12:41] <k4u> how to configure xserver?
[12:41] <Hornet> ikonia: I'm not even sure it's that bug, it just happens to have similar symptoms
[12:41] <frylock^> hmmm. i took out my old cd drive and plugged in my new one. ubuntu does not seem to recognize it. i can see /dev/sdc0 /mount/cdrom0 in my /etc/fstab, however there is no /dev/sdc0 so i'm thinking that's the reason. bios does see it as secondary master.
[12:41] <ikonia> Hornet: ok, I can see from the kernel bug that it will stop apci probing
[12:41] <gordonjcp> familie: they also shut down a *huge* factory in the UK causing massive unemployment in a part of the country that's already fairly economically disadvantaged
[12:41] <k4u> i do get sound, but the monitor doesn't display anything
[12:41] <stdin> !xconfig | k4u
[12:41] <murlidhar> bascule: ok i have installed it my machine using sudo alien:)
[12:41] <ubotu> k4u: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[12:41] <ikonia> Hornet: its a work around, not a fix
[12:41] <gordonjcp> familie: in short, they're not a company I would buy products from
[12:41] <Crozar> i dont know but hes laptop is very very new =( ikonia and he says he wants ubuntu just because of me revealing him that ubuntu does not get infected by virus errors or spyware he was like 0_O
[12:42] <familie> gordonjcp, ok :/ so is there a list with supported manufacturers or somes where you *cant* do anything wrong?
[12:42] <ikonia> murlidhar mI strongly advise you to not use alien
[12:42] <gordonjcp> familie: have a look on linuxprinting.org
[12:42] <familie> my mom bought it because it was like 40
[12:42] <ikonia> Crozar lets cut to the chase, what do you want me to do
[12:42] <gordonjcp> familie: yeah, that's the problem
[12:42] <Crozar> ikonia: right now im looking for the hidden menu =/
[12:42] <murlidhar> ikonia: but i wanted to use the application which am not able to compile it
[12:42] <ikonia> Crozar you where border line trolling in #ubuntu+1 last night, and now your asking random questions - what do you want
[12:42] <gordonjcp> familie: a lot of cheap printers offload the hard work to the driver
[12:42] <ikonia> murlidhar what application
[12:42] <fragender> Is it possible to run stellarium with sensible speed on a notebook with Intel GMA950?
[12:42] <moreati> Dmitry_: gparted is paranoid, if you don't cleanly shutdown Windows or Linux, the filesystem will be marked as 'uncleanly unmounted' and gparted won't risk resizing it. Make sure you do a clean shutdown, then try again.
[12:43] <murlidhar> ikonia: linkage torrent client
[12:43] <frylock^> i took out my old cd drive and plugged in my new one. ubuntu does not seem to recognize it. i can see /dev/sdc0 /mount/cdrom0 in my /etc/fstab, however there is no /dev/sdc0 so i'm thinking that's the reason. bios does see it as secondary master. anybody knows how can i mount it properly?
[12:43] <Shrapnelhunter_>      /msg nickserv set hide email on
[12:43] <ikonia> murlidhar I strongly advise against alinee
[12:43] <ikonia> alien
[12:43] <Crozar> ikonia: i havent fixed the case of my cd drive and i posted the bug in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/149536
[12:43] <Crozar> ikonia: i just want to change the seconds for grub and make it default and fast
[12:43] <Helzibah> Hornet: did you try a different kernel image?
[12:43] <gordonjcp> familie: one of the criticisms levelled at Linux is that hardware support isn't that good - which to an extent is true.  But manufacturers produce Windows drivers but not Linux ones, y'see
[12:43] <murlidhar> ikonia: what should i do then http://code.google.com/p/linkage/wiki/Installation
[12:44] <gordonjcp> familie: now if a device works in a fairly "generic" way, or if it has well-documented interfaces, then it's easy to make a driver for it
[12:44] <chuxxsss> ikonia:going to try the Nvidia 6 series driver let hope I don't crash
[12:44] <murlidhar> ikonia: it requires libnotify0.4.4 but ubuntu has libnotify0.4.3
[12:44] <gordonjcp> familie: the answer is to find stuff that's known to work with Linux, buy it, and then tell the manufacturer that's why you bought it
[12:44] <gordonjcp> "I buy your products because they're well supported under Linux"
[12:44] <ikonia> murlidhar what version of ubuntu are you using
[12:45] <IndyGunFreak> chuxxsss: i just got mine back up and working, it was a pain.
[12:45] <murlidhar> ikonia: feisty
[12:45] <murlidhar> ikonia: 7.04
[12:45] <logik4> hi all
[12:45] <chuxxsss> I no it is if it goes wrong thanks IndyGunFreak
[12:45] <Helzibah> Hornet: 2.6.20-16 messed  up battery acpi on my old laptop, but -15 worked fine so I just copied the module across until it was fixed
[12:46] <ikonia> murlidhar looking at the link you sent me, it should work
[12:46] <familie> gordonjcp, yeh, I phoned Lexmark a couple of weeks ago and asked why they only had 2k2 redhat drivers on their page and the support guy said that - since he's in this job - people *NEVER* asked for Linux drivers yet..
[12:46] <IndyGunFreak> chuxxsss: it wsa a pain even while it went right...lol, dual displays just wouldn't work rihgt, but i have it now
[12:46] <frylock^> using ubuntu 7.04 (feisty). i took out my old cd-rom drive and plugged in my new one (creative rw 2440). ubuntu does not seem to recognize it. i can see /dev/sdc0 /mount/cdrom0 in my /etc/fstab, however there is no /dev/sdc0 so i'm thinking that's the reason. bios does see it as secondary master. anybody knows how can i mount it properly?
[12:46] <gordonjcp> familie: part of the problem, eh
[12:46] <Shrapnelhunter>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[12:46] <dam9> hello everyone :D
[12:46] <CountX> i cant boot, i get error 17
[12:47] <familie> gordonjcp, I'll just write a complaint to them in the feedback form telling them that my huuge company will migrate to HP ;)
[12:47] <dam9> < new windows convert
[12:47] <gordonjcp> familie: heh
[12:47] <Crozar> ikonia: you shouldve told me i must edit this sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:47] <sebrock> I just installed pptpd for VPN purposes, however, when I connect to it I'm not able to surf the internet on the client-side?
[12:47] <Dmitry_> CountX, http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=120802
[12:47] <ikonia> Crozar I did tell you exactly what to do
[12:47] <chuxxsss> I have a old MX440 my kids and partner have the good computers I have my one in the shed
[12:47] <Crozar> ikonia: thanks =)
[12:47] <IndyGunFreak> chuxxsss: i see.
[12:47] <ikonia> Crozar: change the line "timeout" in /boot/grub/menu.lst to "1"
[12:47] <ikonia> as you can see I told you
[12:47] <logik4> Amd64, Ubuntu 7.04, nvidia: Problem only 1 speaker works...
[12:48] <murlidhar> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39751/
[12:48] <Dmitry_> ikonia, what would timeout 0 do? would it unset the timeout?
[12:48] <chuxxsss> Any good ways to fix it? Indy
[12:48] <dam9> quick question :  which program does people use to import video from mini-dv cameras to a computer in ubuntu?
[12:48] <CountX> Dmitry_ i already did that
[12:48] <ikonia> Dmitry_ I think its unlimited
[12:48] <IndyGunFreak> well, my card is quite a bit newer than yours,
[12:48] <Dmitry_> ikonia: i see.
[12:48] <Dmitry_> CountX, well, google more. :P
[12:48] <sebrock> anyone knows about this?
[12:48] <ikonia> murlidhar thats a pain
[12:48] <frylock^> using ubuntu 7.04 (feisty). i took out my old cd-rom drive and plugged in my new one (creative rw 2440). ubuntu does not seem to recognize it. i can see /dev/sdc0 /mount/cdrom0 in my /etc/fstab, however there is no /dev/sdc0 so i'm thinking that's the reason. bios does see it as secondary master. anybody knows how can i mount it properly?
[12:48] <CountX> Dmitry_ how many solutions to one problems can their be?
[12:49] <Dmitry_> CountX, probably a few. not too many.
[12:49] <murlidhar> ikonia: thnks for givin me a hope now can  u hellp me installing libnotify now since the versions are diff
[12:49] <CountX> Dmitry_ ive tried 2
[12:49] <IndyGunFreak> chuxxsss: but what i ended up doing, was instaling the linux nvidia kernel in synaptic, configure my first monitor, restart, configure dual displays, restart, and all is well now.
[12:49] <chuxxsss> now I can't modify my driver in KDE
[12:49] <ikonia> murlidhar don't change the libnotify version
[12:49] <IndyGunFreak> chuxxsss: how ar eyou trying to modify it?
[12:49] <ikonia> murlidhar: report to the softwre writing that his dependency checking is wrong
[12:49] <murlidhar> ikonia: then it won't install
[12:49] <CountX> Dmitry_ ive tried this but no effect : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-68342fc2e30d51fa0aa6f5bf16c911dd8d3663c6
[12:49] <Dmitry_> CountX, ok. well, good luck. sorry i can't help
[12:49] <ikonia> murlidhar: libnotify is important - don't change it
[12:50] <dam9> can people read this? (new to irc)
[12:50] <ikonia> dam9: yes
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[12:50] <Steaua> Cel Mai tare chat  www.webchat.ws/intime/ www.webchat.ws/intime/ www.webchat.ws/intime/ www.webchat.ws/intime/ www.webchat.ws/intime/ www.webchat.ws/intime/ www.webchat.ws/intime/ www.webchat.ws/intime/  Sau server de irc   /server irc.roirc.net            avem radio trivia tot ce iti doreste sufletul
[12:50] <dam9> thank you
[12:50] <sebrock> I just installed pptpd for VPN purposes, however, when I connect to it I'm not able to surf the internet on the client-side?
[12:50] <ikonia> !pastebin >steaua
[12:50] <IndyGunFreak> dam9: i doubt dyslexics can
[12:50] <dam9> xD
[12:50] <chuxxsss> well I will go in to synaptic again if it does work I have instuction on have to do it through the shell bash
[12:50] <murlidhar> ikonia: so wht should i do to install
[12:50] <logik4> Amd64, Ubuntu 7.04, nvidia: Problem only 1 speaker works...
[12:51] <Crozar> ikonia: how to save the history of all my terminal commands?
[12:51] <ikonia> murlidhar contact the person who wrote the software and tell him his dependency tacking is wrong
[12:51] <dam9> hey, just a really quick question, which program do people commonly use in Ubuntu to import video from mini-dv cameras to their computers? (through firewire port)
[12:51] <Crozar> ikonia: i need it because at october 18 il reinstall gutsy fresh
[12:51] <ikonia> Crozar its save in .history
[12:51] <Crozar> etc/X11 folder?
[12:51] <ikonia> Crozar no your home dir
[12:51] <ruben> hello, I started XChat and now I'm here, but I want to go to the channel #ubuntustudio but I'm new to Irc and XChat, can Anyone help me out?
[12:52] <xcst> ./j ubuntustuido
[12:52] <xcst> ./j ubuntustudio
[12:52] <ikonia> ruben /join #ubuntustudio
[12:52] <Dmitry_> /j #ubuntustudio
[12:52] <murlidhar> ikonia: i am noobie but how can it have in fedora yum install if the dependency is tacking is wrong?
[12:52] <Dmitry_> actually,
[12:52] <ikonia> murlidhar fedroa is totally different
[12:52] <Crozar> theyr hidden =D
[12:52] <ikonia> murlidhar hence why I said don't use alien
[12:53] <Dmitry_> ikonia is probably more correct. your version of xchat may not support the command /j
[12:53] <Dmitry_> or it may. it's better to be safe.
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> murlidhar: why are you here asking about fedora?.. and alien is a terrible idea
[12:53] <murlidhar> ikonia: should i say him that libnotify 0.4.4 is not available for feisty fawn
[12:53] <xcst> im looking for a nice antivirus for ubuntu? can someone suggest
[12:53] <ChildX> hello
[12:53] <ChildX> i need some help here
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> !anvtivirus
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anvtivirus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <ikonia> murlidhar no - just question if libnotify4 is actually required, it could just be a typo in his dep checking
[12:54] <dam9> clamwin maybe?
[12:54] <logik4> xcst :clamscan
[12:54] <ChildX> anyone familiar with Launcher?
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> ClamAV, and AVG just came out with their linux version of their AV software, its quite nice.
[12:54] <xcst> do you prefer limewire for ubuntu?
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> i've got AVG on my laptop.
[12:54] <frylock^> using ubuntu 7.04 (feisty). i took out my old cd-rom drive and plugged in my new one (creative rw 2440). ubuntu does not seem to recognize it. i can see /dev/sdc0 /mount/cdrom0 in my /etc/fstab, however there is no /dev/sdc0 so i'm thinking that's the reason. bios does see it as secondary master. anybody knows how can i mount it properly?
[12:54] <murlidhar> ikonia: i will do that right away
[12:54] <Dmitry_> !antivirus
[12:54] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[12:55] <Dmitry_> frylock^, i've seen that message four times now. :S
[12:55] <ikonia> murlidhar well done. its the correct way to do it. He is posting instructions for ubuntu that don't work - fix the instructions, not ubuntu
[12:55] <logik4> amd64 fan here?
[12:55] <dam9> quick question : is there any alternative to Kino for importing mini-dv video to a computer?
[12:55] <xcst> how about the counterpart for limewire
[12:55] <ikonia> logik4: ask the qeustion
[12:55] <logik4> Ikonia: Amd64, Ubuntu 7.04, nvidia: Problem only 1 speaker works...
[12:55] <frylock^> Dmitry_: yeah, since i nobody answers, i'm writing in intervals, maybe someone who has joined recently can help me out
[12:55] <ikonia> logik4: broken speaker/cable ?
[12:55] <ChildX> i want to run an application from the Panel... i want to run XMMS and the stream as well, not just xmms, cause that i know
[12:56] <ikonia> frylock^: what is your question
[12:56] <logik4> ikonia:  boot with windows=>  hardware, cable ok
[12:56] <murlidhar> ikonia: since i am a noobie just give the exact comments so that i can copy paste it
[12:56] <Dmitry_> frylock^, i see. some helpers get annoyed by repetition. however, i totally understand you. :)
[12:56] <logik4> speaker too
[12:56] <logik4> speakers too
[12:56] <Dmitry_> ikonia:
[12:56] <IndyGunFreak> logik4: check your balances... maybe right speaker is turned off.
[12:56] <Dmitry_> [11:54:38]  <frylock^> using ubuntu 7.04 (feisty). i took out my old cd-rom drive and plugged in my new one (creative rw 2440). ubuntu does not seem to recognize it. i can see /dev/sdc0 /mount/cdrom0 in my /etc/fstab, however there is no /dev/sdc0 so i'm thinking that's the reason. bios does see it as secondary master. anybody knows how can i mount it properly?
[12:57] <bobby_> hello ; my question is  : does anybody know a good application for vocal command under ubuntu ( perlbox-voice looks nice but is not really working )
[12:57] <logik4> used Alsa mixer and balance ok
[12:57] <Kopfgeldjaeger> hi
[12:57] <ikonia> murlidhar "hi your instructions to install on ubuntu appear to be wrong. The depencency checking says it needs libnotify 4.4 - however 4.3 is the latest available in ubuntu, is this correct or is your denendecny checking/instructions wrong"
[12:57] <sebrock> how can I access VPN server and internet at the same time???
[12:57] <ruben> I have Feisty as distro now, without any dual boot with an other distro. But now I want to instal Ubuntustudio 7.04 next to it. How do I make a dual boot?
[12:58] <frylock^> ikonia: using ubuntu 7.04 (feisty). i took out my old cd-rom drive and plugged in my new one (creative rw 2440). ubuntu does not seem to recognize it. i can see /dev/sdc0 /mount/cdrom0 in my /etc/fstab, however there is no /dev/sdc0 so i'm thinking that's the reason. bios does see it as secondary master. i do see /dev/hdc, when i gnome-mount -vtd /dev/hdc, i get an error about "bad fs, bad superblock (and so forth)"
[12:58] <ikonia> ruben the only way to really do it is to use different disks or a shared boot partition
[12:58] <ChildX> how can i make XMMS to be launched by clicking a button on the Panel and at the same time i want that a stream that i have saved in the file Internet Music.m3u to be executed
[12:58] <ChildX> ??
[12:58] <ikonia> frylock you've just said you can see /dev/sdc0 - then you tell me  there is no /dev/sdc0 ? which is it
[12:58] <ruben> I have ony one Hard disk, I don't think it is divided into partitions. what to do?
[12:58] <ChildX> what's the command then?
[12:59] <ikonia> ruben: why do you want to make this hard, just use ubuntustudio if thats what you want
[12:59] <ruben> and trow away the normal ubuntu?
[01:00] <ChildX> the command 'xmms /home/user/Intzernet Music.m3u' just opens xmms and does not use the m3u file... it opens a Choose file dialog...
[01:00] <frylock^> ikonia: i can see the line that goes "/dev/sdc0 /mount/cdrom0 utf,iso.... " line in my /etc/fstab. in /dev/ there is no "sdc0"
[01:00] <murlidhar> ikonia: done thnks
[01:00] <ChildX> the command 'xmms /home/user/Internet Music.m3u' just opens xmms and does not use the m3u file... it opens a Choose file dialog...
[01:00] <quattromaggio> ciao
[01:00] <ikonia> frylock^: ok - have you rebooted so udev can create one ?
[01:00] <stdin> ChildX: did you escape the space ?
[01:00] <ChildX> yeah
[01:00] <ruben> I don't now if ubuntustudio is suited for other things then media development
[01:00] <k4u> Right, server info has been set, but it still tells me: 'no screens found'
[01:00] <stdin> ChildX: xmms /home/user/Internet\ Music.m3u    < like that?
[01:00] <logik4> i found this : #14377
[01:00] <k4u> Right, server info has been set, but it still tells me: 'no screens found'
[01:00] <ChildX> then i tried renaming the file to Music.m3u and set the command accordingly
[01:01] <ruben> and also I first want to try it
[01:01] <ikonia> k4u don't use the server edition
[01:01] <ikonia> k4u use the desktop
[01:01] <ChildX> stdin, no
[01:01] <k4u> ikonia: it doesn't matter. i reinstalled.
[01:01] <ikonia> k4u use the desktop
[01:01] <frylock^> ikonia: yeah i did.
[01:01] <ChildX> my second command was 'xmms /home/user/Music.m3u'
[01:01] <ikonia> frylock^: do you have any /dev/scd devices
[01:01] <k4u> ikonia: Read! i reinstalled. but it STILL doesn't work!
[01:02] <ikonia> k4u drop the attitude, I asked you earlier what the errors where
[01:02] <quattromaggio> ciao
[01:02] <xcst> !medibuntu
[01:02] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[01:02] <k4u> ikonia: ubuntu-desktop has been installed. it just tells me 'no screens found'
[01:02] <frylock^> ikonia: nop. ls /dev/sc* returns empty
[01:02] <ChildX> i've changed the file Internet Music.m3u to Music.m3u
[01:02] <ikonia> k4u: use the desktop version - not the server version
[01:02] <MannyZ> HELLO, HOW I FORMAT MY UBUNTU? MY X IS MIXEDUP AND I WANT TO INSTALL 7.04 AGAIN
[01:02] <ikonia> frylock can you see it in the bios ?
[01:03] <frylock^> ikonia: yes, as secondary master.
[01:03] <ikonia> !caps >mannyz
[01:03] <ChildX> is this a possible bug in Ubuntu feisty?
[01:03] <MannyZ> ikonia pls
[01:03] <ktostaki> Will I can send mails throught mutt?
[01:03] <ikonia> frylock thats very odd, try lshw see if you can see it
[01:03] <ChildX> or probably a bug in GNOME
[01:03] <ubuntu__> hey guys, anyone here running an 8800gts?
[01:03] <ChildX> huh?
[01:03] <k4u> anyone else who can help me with this apart from ikonia?
[01:03] <ikonia> k4u: lets fix your desktop install issues
[01:03] <ubuntu__> k4u whats wrong
[01:04] <k4u> ubuntu__: I have installed ubuntu-desktop, but it tells me: 'no screens found'
[01:04] <xcst> i like to watch dvd and movies in my laptop, is preferrable that i install medibuntu?
[01:04] <ubuntu__> and has anyone here installed an 8800gts on ubuntu feisty?
[01:04] <ubuntu__> what graphics card are youusing
[01:04] <ChildX> please help me or i'll start cursing
[01:04] <logik4> issue:  Ubuntu live CD, AMD64 turion, Presario V6000, Nvidia:  Failed to boot BCM
[01:04] <ikonia> ubuntu__ yes
[01:04] <k4u> ubuntu__ Nvidea
[01:04] <ikonia> ubuntu__ 8800
[01:04] <jimcooncat> looking for a more robust terminal app, multiple sessions, let me send one command to all?
[01:05] <ikonia> k4u fix the issues on the desktop cd - rather than messing witht he server edition
[01:05] <linxeh> jimcooncat: multiple xterms ?
[01:05] <linxeh> :P
[01:05] <ChildX> now you deserved it
[01:05] <frylock^> ikonia: it sees it, in ide-1, logical name: /dev/hdc
[01:05] <ubuntu__> wait
[01:05] <k4u> ubuntu__: could it be becaus i'm trying it on an HP?
[01:05] <ChildX> die you selfish mother-fuckers
[01:05] <ikonia> k4u: this is desktop for your dad - desktop edition is more suited to desktop use
[01:05] <stdin> !language | ChildX
[01:05] <ubotu> ChildX: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:05] <ikonia> stdin: just ban that
[01:05] <jimcooncat> linxeh: like screen but with a better interface
[01:05] <k4u> ikonia: i HAVE installed the desktop cd! o'
[01:05] <ChildX> oh now you've noticed me
[01:05] <ubuntu__> ikonia did u install an 8800 b4?
[01:05] <k4u> ikonia; i'm not stupid...
[01:05] <ikonia> k4u no you've not, as you've told me your installing gnome-desktop
[01:05] <ChildX> you sick fuck
[01:05] <ubuntu__> what model nvidia card k4u
[01:05] <thedonvaughn> ChildX: mad because you're not getting free volunteered help?
[01:05] <ikonia> gnome-desktop is already installed on the desktop
[01:06] <ikonia> ubuntu__ yes
[01:06] <linxeh> jimcooncat: you can probably achieve what you want with screen and emacs ;-)
[01:06] <k4u> ubuntu__: uhm.. woulnd't kknow actualy... how to find?:| i have no package or some sort...
[01:06] <frylock^> ikonia: when i gnome-mount -vtd /dev/hdc, it says something about bad fs, bad superblock. i can fetch the full message if you want.
[01:06] <jimcooncat> linxeh: no doubt, only takes a year to learn?
[01:06] <ubuntu__> did it work, i tried b4 and now im on the live cd wundering if i should because i dont think it will work
[01:06] <ikonia> frylock sounds a good idea
[01:06] <ikonia> ubuntu__ livecd is tricky, you have to use the 3rd party nvidia drivers
[01:07] <ubuntu__> no no no
[01:07] <ubuntu__> i mean
[01:07] <ubuntu__> if i install it will it work
[01:07] <murlidhar> ikonia: if u notice there is no mention of libnotify0.4.4 here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39754/
[01:07] <ubuntu__> apparently in 7.10 deta they fixed it
[01:07] <k4u> afk-> taking a shower...
[01:07] <linxeh> jimcooncat: or longer :) you never stop learning (like anything)
[01:07] <ikonia> ubuntu__ not out of the box
[01:07] <ubuntu__> but i dont want to
[01:07] <ubuntu__> beta*
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu__: fixed what?
[01:07] <ikonia> ubuntu__ they updated the driver in 7.10 - thats what "fixed" it
[01:07] <ubuntu__> the 8800gts issue
[01:07] <linxeh> jimcooncat: I can't think of anything that does what you want off hand, but there might be something out there (tried looking on freshmeat?)
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> ah..
[01:07] <logik4> bcm case also?
[01:07] <ubuntu__> it crashes X when i install the official driver
[01:08] <jimcooncat> linxeh: oh yeah freshmeat. thanks, I forgot
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu__: ya i've read that
[01:08] <ubuntu__> i tried envy
[01:08] <ubuntu__> but that sucked
[01:08] <linxeh> jimcooncat: multi-gnome terminal ?
[01:08] <ubuntu__> the reso kept changing
[01:08] <ikonia> ubuntu__: I've just told you the situation
[01:08] <ubuntu__> i had to always reset to my screen reso every time i restarted and played a full screen game
[01:08] <linxeh> jimcooncat: mrxvt?
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> my 7800 works fine...
[01:09] <logik4> Linux on Laptop: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/compaq.html
[01:09] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak: because its supported
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> ya.. :)
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> supported video cards, ftw!
[01:09] <ubuntu__> oh i see, ive got the 7.10 beta disk here could i just use those drivers
[01:10] <linxeh> jimcooncat: heheheheh multixterm looks quite interesting /
[01:10] <ubuntu__> somehow
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu__: have you looked at Restricted driver mgr in System/Admin?
[01:10] <thedonvaughn> ubuntu__: uhm, if u need nvidia drivers that you're going to compile your own, why not download them from nvidia?
[01:10] <ubuntu__> yep
[01:10] <ikonia> ubuntu__ no
[01:10] <ubuntu__> thats what crashed them
[01:10] <ikonia> ubuntu__ I've explained the situation, I'll do it one more time. The drivers in 7.04 do not support the 8800 card
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu__: what did it say in restricted driver mgr
[01:10] <Crozar> ikonia: do you play games?
[01:10] <frylock^> ikonia: ok, it tells me wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock when reading /dev/hdc. it also suggests me to dmesg
[01:10] <thedonvaughn> ubuntu__: if it's necesasry, you're not forced to wait for ubuntu to package it for you.  Just install it yourself.
[01:10] <jimcooncat> thanks linxeh I'm checking 'em all
[01:10] <ikonia> ubuntu__ you either have to update to the drivers on nvidia.com
[01:11] <ubuntu__> ok, the restricted driver manager crashed my system and so did the nvidia drivers
[01:11] <ikonia> ubuntu__ or use ubuntu 7.10 - where they have updated teh drivers for you
[01:11] <frylock^> ikonia: when i dmesg | tail, i see EXT3-fs: cannot read superblock
[01:11] <ubuntu__> lol
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: i thought he was using gutsy?
[01:11] <ikonia> frylock its trying to mount it as a ext3 file system, not a cdrom
[01:11] <ikonia> IndyGunFreak nah 7.04
[01:11] <Crozar> ikonia: nvidia8800 not supported with ubuntu~!
[01:11] <ubuntu__> i got that
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> ikonia: well that explains my confusion..lol
[01:11] <frylock^> ikonia: what is the vfstype for a cd-rom?
[01:11] <ikonia> Crozar the driver sin 7.10 work
[01:12] <ubuntu__> the 7.10 beta isnt installing, anyone here installed it (just want to clarify sumthing)
[01:12] <ikonia> frylock it should work it out auto, but it looks like hdc is not your cdrom, do "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdc" see what it says
[01:12] <ikonia> ubuntu__ yes I have it installed
[01:12] <ubuntu__> ok
[01:12] <ikonia> and the support channel is #ubuntu+1
[01:12] <ubuntu__> ok
[01:13] <frylock^> ikonia: it says nothing
[01:13] <ikonia> frylock^: ok - so that looks like the cdrom
[01:13] <ikonia> frylock^: actually can you post the output in a pastebin please
[01:13] <er4z0r> hi
[01:14] <frylock^> ikonia: the output of the command or the dmesg | tail
[01:14] <Crozar> ikonia: when you mean by drivers for gfx card you mean old not so old or new? in windows they go by versions and each has its own featuer like opengl1.4 or opengl 2.3 ect..
[01:14] <ikonia> frylock^: no "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdc"
[01:14] <ikonia> Crozar: please stop talking about nosense topics
[01:14] <er4z0r> cannot get my wireless-card to work
[01:14] <Crozar> whats nonsense? who doesnt want new drivers ?
[01:15] <er4z0r> Crozar: people who are well with te old ones?
[01:15] <french-kiss> hello i download today the new openoffice
[01:15] <frylock^> ikonia: it has no output at all, it just asks me for may pw, then it just goes back to shell
[01:15] <french-kiss> but now thats many package
[01:15] <Crozar> ikonia: last year drivers was about 80.78 right? now we've reached 160 version in windows
[01:15] <ikonia> frylock^: thats worrying
[01:15] <french-kiss> how can i install all the package
[01:15] <ikonia> frylock^: is there a cdrom in the drive
[01:15] <ikonia> Crozar I'm not interested
[01:16] <frylock^> ikonia: yerp, the ubuntu feisty 7.04 installation cd :)
[01:16] <ikonia> frylock^: thats not good, it looks like ubuntu cannot see your cdrom at all
[01:16] <Crozar> why???> ikonia on windows version 80 last year got Doom3 fps down to 58 FRAMES PER SECOND , but now this year same card on windows updated drivers to 160 it gave 88 FPS STABLED~
[01:16] <ikonia> frylock^: did you say lshw can see it
[01:16] <ikonia> Crozar please stop disscussing this with me, I'm not interested
[01:16] <frylock^> ikonia: yes, in ide-1, logical name: /dev/hdc.
[01:16] <Crozar> whY! :(
[01:16] <ikonia> frylock did it identify the cdrom ok
[01:17] <Crozar> ikonia: because your fed up of telling people that answer?
[01:17] <frylock^> yeah, creative rw
[01:17] <logik4> btw:  Any interesting games to suggest ?
[01:17] <ikonia> frylock thats good.
[01:17] <ikonia> frylock^: can you show me "ls -la /dev/hdc"
[01:17] <Crozar> ikonia: ok what about ati?
[01:17] <ikonia> Crozar last request before I put you on ignore. Stop discussing this with me, I'm not interested
[01:18] <Dalehead> Hi everyone....Can anyone help me out with a screen resolution problem?
[01:18] <Crozar> k
[01:18] <murlidhar> ikonia: i forgot to tell u that i already installed the client using sudo alien and it has installed without any errors but it does not open
[01:18] <ikonia> Dalehead: sure
[01:18] <Crozar> IndyGunFreak: can you tell me about ATI?
[01:18] <Dalehead> Thanks, i'll try to explain
[01:18] <ikonia> murlidhar uninstall it
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> Crozar: only thing i can tell you is it sucks.
[01:18] <ikonia> !ati >Crozar
[01:18] <Dalehead> I've read all FAQ's, and had partial success, but now no more progress
[01:18] <ikonia> Crozar: read that
[01:18] <DjViper> ati works
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> !ati
[01:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:18] <Dalehead> I have a Shuttle PC with an integrated Radeon 9100 gfx
[01:19] <Burdon> Hei ikonia, me again. Maybe you could help me? I installed the printer. Everything worked fine. But I cannot find die printer in the menu and in programms. Do you have an idea?
[01:19] <frylock^> ikonia: brw-rw----- 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2007-10-06 11:52 /dev/hdc
[01:19] <Dalehead> i'm using a Dell Widescreen 20" monitor
[01:19] <_Argasm> I've just installed 7.10 release 2 and I cannot seem to get the wireless working properly...  Did all the same stuff in 7.04 (get dnsmasq/ipmasq/firestarter) and entered all the settings in /etc/network/interfaces for wlan0... but the damn thing wont flash and start up... any ideas ???
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> DjViper: for some it does i'm sure...  i never got my 9550 to work...
[01:19] <murlidhar> ikonia: but the terminal gives the error of libcurl do u think even that is not supported?
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> DjViper: do you have the 3d drivers installed?
[01:19] <DjViper> IndyGunFreak: did you try the latest driver?
[01:19] <Dalehead> I can't get any resolution options greater than 1280x1024 to appear, and have followed the excellent guide on the forums
[01:19] <ikonia> frylock thats good, it looks like it "knows" its a cdrom so udev created the correct device
[01:19] <DjViper> IndyGunFreak: yep, and compiz fusion etc
[01:19] <murlidhar> ikonia: yes  i will uninstall it
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> DjViper: this was like a year ago, i've long since ditched that card and went Nvidia.
[01:19] <Dalehead> i guess hoping someone more experienced may be able to help with my checklist of tried things
[01:19] <DjViper> all working wonderfully
[01:19] <DjViper> ah okay
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> DjViper: awesome.
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> Nvidia is way easier, i'll say that
[01:20] <DjViper> IndyGunFreak: and Im using a 9600 mobility card
[01:20] <logik4> Dalehead:  have you look into xorg.conf file?
[01:20] <DjViper> true
[01:20] <frylock^> ikonia: you know what, i'll plug it to my windoze box, see if it works fine. maybe the cd-rom is f*cked
[01:20] <Dalehead> yes, and a friend who is more knowledgable than me tried to edit it
[01:20] <ikonia> Dalehead: what we need to do is look at your /var/Xorg.0.log file and see why it can't see higher resoluitions
[01:20] <logik4> and?
[01:20] <ikonia> frylock^: careful on the language please, its not needed
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> DjViper: i think part of my problem was it being dual screen, it would never run dual screen right... whereas Nvidia its easy to set up
[01:20] <Dalehead> it ended up screwed, so we ran the utility that resets things, chose vesa and now i can get 1280
[01:21] <frylock^> ikonia: ok will be. i'll see if the cd-rom is faulty :)
[01:21] <frylock^> ttyl thanks!
[01:21] <ikonia> frylock^: cool
[01:21] <Dalehead> ok, how is it best for me to get that info to you?  Just paste it here?
[01:21] <DjViper> IndyGunFreak: okay
[01:21] <stdin> !paste | Dalehead
[01:21] <ubotu> Dalehead: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:21] <Keule|On> i need help with terratec hybrid dvb-t card
[01:21] <Dalehead> great, will try to work on that now.....
[01:21] <Dalehead> brb
[01:21] <jimcooncat> linxeh: multi-gnome-terminal is just fine. thanks!!!
[01:21] <Keule|On> i cannot install it
[01:22] <Crozar> IndyGunFreak: are you on laptop?
[01:22] <Bassetts> can anyone recommend a podcatcher with a gui and that is not slow at downloading the podcasts
[01:23] <Crozar> IndyGunFreak: laptop nvidia GO cards drivers come from themanufacture not all from nvidia .com and if u want it from theyr u must get a edited twaeked .inf file if i do those twaeks like i do in windows can linux understand them?
[01:23] <ikonia> 7!offtopic >crozar
[01:23] <ikonia> !offtopic >crozar
[01:23] <Dalehead> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39756/    - hope it did that right
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> Crozar: i have absolutely no idea what you just sai, that made no sense at all.
[01:24] <_Argasm> Can someone help me with a wireless problem in 7.10 ??  it's all configured but no flashing wireless card ??? any ideas ??
[01:24] <ikonia> _Argasm: gusty support in #ubuntu+1
[01:24] <Crozar> omg did he block me? i havent speaked with him =/
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> Crozar: no, im' not ona  laptop though.
[01:24] <_Argasm> thx
[01:24] <Crozar> il wait for pici
[01:25] <ok21> I can see the content of a folder being a root(using console), but when I try to access through my file browser I cant, how can I access the file using my file browser
[01:26] <k4u> okay, what to do with the error that Xserver can't find any screens?
[01:26] <J-Georg_> Good morning.
[01:26] <linxeh> jimcooncat: cool, glad you found something
[01:26] <arnath> i installed ubuntu first, then windows, but now i can't get grub going again
[01:26] <ikonia> k4u you install the ubuntu desktop version
[01:26] <k4u> ikonia: already did that, as i have said about 50 times
[01:26] <k4u> anyone else?
[01:26] <stdin> !grub | arnath
[01:26] <ubotu> arnath: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:27] <ok21> can i run file browser as being sudo or root, so I can see those files
[01:27] <Burdon> ikonia: My printer isn't displayed in the menu. What's the matter?
[01:28] <ikonia> k4u I know lieing as you told me you installed the ubuntu-desktop package which is already installed on the ubuntu desktop install
[01:28] <stdin> ok21: you can "gksu nautilus"
[01:28] <ikonia> Burdon no idea
[01:28] <Burdon> ok thx
[01:28] <J-Georg_> Any idea what else could be wrong if grub-install says "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly."? I've gone through forums last couple of hours and nothing helps what's suggested so far. I have menu.lst, device.map and even mentioned stage1 in place and fstab and mtab look fine too...
[01:29] <GuHHH> can anyone help me? i can't unzip a file: http://paste.debian.net/38933
[01:29] <ok21> stdin:thanks a lot man
[01:29] <ciphergoth> Just installed Gutsy beta on my new Windows XP laptop.  I'd expected that it would be dual-boot by the time I'd finished, but no menu appears at boot time.  Did something go wrong?
[01:29] <ikonia> GuHHH: are you using ubuntu ?
[01:29] <ikonia> ciphergoth: /join #ubuntu+1 for gusty support
[01:29] <ciphergoth> ikonia: OK - thanks!
[01:30] <Megabyte> hello
[01:30] <Megabyte> does anyone here try xgl?
[01:30] <Dalehead> ikonia: Did the paste work of for you?  First time i've used that service sorry
[01:30] <Megabyte> oops
[01:30] <Megabyte> *Did anyone here try xgl, I mean.
[01:30] <ikonia> Dalehead sorry, I missed it, I didn't know you where pasting anything
[01:30] <Dalehead> np, the conf file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39756/
[01:30] <logik4> DaleHead
[01:31] <murlidhar> arnath: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 follow this
[01:31] <logik4> i have dual screen here:  19" + Dell widescreen 22"
[01:31] <Dalehead> logik4:  Hi
[01:31] <arnath> is it at all a problem that /boot/grub/stage1 gives me a (hd1) reference?
[01:31] <logik4> using ATI Radeon 9200 SE (RV280)
[01:31] <arnath> i can install grub, thats not the problem
[01:31] <arnath> the problem is that it wont boot
[01:32] <logik4> max resolution is 1680x1050
[01:32] <murlidhar> arnath: how many hard disks do u ha ve
[01:32] <arnath> murlidhar: 2
[01:32] <Dalehead> This is a shuttle PC, so most things are onboard.  Single display is all I need
[01:32] <logik4> optimize for Dell monitor
[01:32] <ikonia> Dalehead I asked for the log file, not the config file
[01:32] <Dalehead> yes, that's what i'd like, but it doesn't appear as an option
[01:32] <GuHHH> ikonia: yes, why?
[01:32] <Dalehead> Oh sorry..... which log file?
[01:32] <logik4> what is the recommend resolution ?
[01:32] <murlidhar> arnath: pastebin this sudo fdisk -l > ~/Desktop/Partition.Layout.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T).txt
[01:32] <Dalehead> This monitor should be 1680x1050
[01:32] <ikonia> GuHHH please show me uname -a
[01:33] <arnath> murlidhar: sec, the livecd is booting
[01:33] <GuHHH> ikonie: lol, just to make sure im on ubuntu?
[01:33] <ikonia> GuHHH yeah
[01:33] <ikonia> GuHHH lots of time wasters
[01:33] <GuHHH> :)
[01:34] <arnath> murlidhar: but i can pretty much tell you want you need to know -> sda = windows, sdb = linux :|
[01:34] <GuHHH> ikonia: im on debian, chrooting a ubuntu partition
[01:34] <logik4> DaleHead: i am comparing your xorg file with mine
[01:34] <Dalehead> logik4:  Thanks
[01:34] <murlidhar> arnath: hmm
[01:34] <ikonia> GuHHH ahh so your lying to me
[01:35] <ikonia> GuHHH as I suspected
[01:35] <GuHHH> lol
[01:35] <ikonia> GuHHH: join #debian
[01:35] <GuHHH> my file is on ubuntu
[01:35] <arnath> murlidhar: i already considered switching the two harddrives around, but im afraid this would cause problems wiv fstab, no?
[01:35] <GuHHH> and im using it chroot, so its ubuntu
[01:35] <ikonia> GuHHH join #debian
[01:35] <murlidhar> arnath: any partitions in windows drive?
[01:35] <GuHHH> no.
[01:35] <arnath> murlidhar: only the one windows
[01:36] <vinboy_> hi
[01:36] <vinboy_> is there any utility to test mirrors' speed?
[01:36] <murlidhar> arnath: root (hd0,0)
[01:36] <ikonia> GuHHH show me lsb_release -i
[01:37] <arnath> murlidhar: hmm, last time i tried that, it didnt work, but i'll try again
[01:37] <GuHHH> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[01:37] <logik4> DaleHead
[01:37] <GuHHH> lol, i could make it up ;P
[01:37] <Dalehead> logik4:  hi
[01:37] <ikonia> true, no help here for debian, sorry
[01:38] <arnath> murlidhar: setup (hd0) ?
[01:38] <dog_boy> Hi all, having an issue switching displays on a Thinkpad T23. LCD works but can't switch over (Fn-F7) to the DVI port on my mini dock. Any ideas? (7.04 current)
[01:38] <murlidhar> arnath: root(hd1,0)
[01:38] <jrib> GuHHH: it looks like an issue with your file.  Does it unzip in Debian?
[01:38] <murlidhar> arnath: setup (hd0)
[01:39] <Crozar> dog_boy: with 7.10 Gutsy you have the option with eyecandy you can switch by ur mouse easily , but on 7.04 you must edit your xorg.conf file and have TV CRT inserted
[01:39] <GuHHH> jrib: no, doesnt on debian neither ubuntu
[01:39] <arnath> murlidhar: it would have to be root (hd1,1), i fink (thats the bootable linux partition)
[01:39] <GuHHH> ikonia: its not debian... damn! ;D
[01:40] <jrib> GuHHH: then it's an issue with the file
[01:40] <stdin> GuHHH: then the file is corrupt
[01:40] <arnath> murlidhar: ok, done it, will reboot to see
[01:40] <murlidhar> arnath: remember to type "quit" to quit grub and if u r
[01:40] <arnath> murlidhar: did that
[01:40] <GuHHH> it was download from torrent... no one complained
[01:41] <arnath> murlidhar: you are my savior! :)
[01:41] <GuHHH> its strange
[01:41] <schopra> Greetings all, I'm wondering if someone could help with a pdfedit installation question
[01:41] <murlidhar> arnath: naah nothing i am just a noobie  and i heard that
[01:41] <arnath> murlidhar: well you saved my butt, so thanks ;)
[01:42] <murlidhar> arnath: bios and grub read differently
[01:42] <xcst> do linux users still us antivirus?
[01:42] <murlidhar> arnath: just remeber that
[01:42] <Dalehead> logik4: Sorry, did i miss your reply?  Just saw my name...
[01:42] <arnath> murlidhar: will do :>
[01:43] <moko> hi folks where can I ask help for some gnome games^
[01:43] <moko> ?
[01:43] <logik4> still using VESA instead of radeon
[01:43] <logik4> Identifier	"ATI RADEON 9100"
[01:43] <logik4> 	Driver		"vesa"
[01:43] <logik4> mine:   BoardName "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9200 SE (RV280)"
[01:43] <jrib> xcst: no, unless they are a mail server for windows users
[01:43] <logik4>     Driver "radeon"
[01:43] <jrib> !paste | logik4
[01:43] <ubotu> logik4: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:43] <logik4> test
[01:43] <Dalehead> radeon 9100 is the integrated card
[01:44] <xcst> jrib, thanks
[01:44] <schopra> Folks, I've been trying to install pdfedit and keep getting some errors related to libc6
[01:44] <wii> how do i find out my monitor horizontal and vertical values?
[01:44] <schopra> I've tried three different installation methods (the recommended ones at the pdfedit page) and no dice
[01:45] <Dalehead> VESA i think was chosen because when I tried to install the ATI driver, we ended up with Gnome not booting, and had to run the GPK tool (forget full name)
[01:45] <Dalehead> logik4: Did you have to install your driver manually, or was it auto detected at install?
[01:45] <Parthenicos> grnet
[01:46] <moko> ..LOL first crash on gutzy
[01:46] <logik4> yes i did
[01:46] <schopra> I ran sudo to install libc6 but it insistst that libc6 is already the newest version
[01:46] <logik4> a little pain in the ...
[01:46] <Dalehead> yeah, i tried it following the guide, and each time i've ended up with the boot failure
[01:46] <logik4> maybe because of dual screen setting
[01:46] <stdin> schopra: are you compiling by any chance?
[01:47] <Dalehead> considering a clean re-install
[01:47] <arnath> im adding windows to grub menu.lst, which fields are required? title & root obviously, but what else?
[01:47] <logik4> use the fglx tool
[01:47] <arnath> chainloader +1 <- what does it do and is it necessary?
[01:47] <schopra> stdin: No, I just ran the the two recommended sudos, then wget to get the package
[01:47] <logik4> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:47] <schopra> and then alien on on the rpm
[01:47] <Kopfgeldjaeger> i want to move all files with a " in their name into the folder here/. whats wrong with this [although it does work it gives an error message] : find ./ -name '*"*'  -exec mv {} here/ \;
[01:47] <Dalehead> Thanks for the help logik4, i'll go try again :)
[01:47] <Dalehead> appreciate it
[01:47] <mechdave> arnath: yes it is required for windows
[01:48] <logik4> http://www.rage3d.com/content/articles/atilinuxhowto/
[01:48] <schopra> its a bit strange
[01:48] <arnath> mechdave: anything else i have to put in? (title, root, chainloader+1 and ? )
[01:48] <stdin> schopra: it's probably an old package or just has the wrong info in it. alien isn't a good way to install packages
[01:48] <logik4> once you modify xorg file...
[01:48] <logik4> restart gdm
[01:48] <schopra> stdin: I've just been following the instructions here:
[01:48] <schopra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PDFedit
[01:49] <Dalehead> just via a system reboot?
[01:49] <logik4> http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
[01:49] <schopra> stdin: what seems to be common to all three methods on that page is that when I follow them, the installation craps out at the last stage
[01:49] <mechdave> arnath: yeah, should be title line then rootnoverify and then chainloader +1
[01:49] <CH1P> how to allot swap partition?
[01:49] <Dalehead> You still chose Radeon from the download site, or FireGL?
[01:49] <logik4> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon-prer200.html
[01:49] <arnath> mechdave: rootnoverify instead of root?
[01:49] <Dalehead> wonder if i'm confusing that somewhere
[01:50] <mechdave> arnath: yes
[01:50] <arnath> mechdave: ok thx
[01:50] <stdin> schopra: you may have to use the older package for now http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/pool/edgy/3v1n0/pdfedit_0.2.5-0+3v1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[01:50] <logik4> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.28.8-inst.html
[01:50] <schopra> stdin: Thanks, OK, let me try that
[01:51] <jcs> So my computer lost power partway through an apt-get dist-upgrade, and now I get a kernel panic on boot complaining about a corrupted shared library.  Is there any chance whatsoever that I can fix this?
[01:51] <schopra> stdin: back in a few
[01:51] <mechdave> arnath: title Windows XP
[01:51] <mechdave> rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[01:51] <mechdave> chainloader +1
[01:51] <arnath> mechdave: ye its working :D
[01:51] <ok21> I need to copy the file in my desktop from ubuntu, currently grub isnt working, I booted a ubuntu live cd I can see those files in my browser using gksu nautilus, but cant in anyway copy those file to my USB drive
[01:51] <stdin> schopra: when gutsy is out and you upgrade you'll get the newer package
[01:51] <ikonia> jcs re-install is your best beyt
[01:51] <schopra> aha, that sounds right
[01:51] <mechdave> arnath: Bewdy, glad to be of help! :)
[01:52] <ok21> please help
[01:52] <arnath> mechdave: :D
[01:53] <CH1P> how to allot swap partition?
[01:53] <CH1P> its like /whatgoeshere?
[01:54] <schopra> stdin: Are there any other pdf editors out there that would work?
[01:54] <stdin> schopra: not sure, I never needed to edit a pdf, but I'm sure there's something in the repos
[01:55] <schopra> stdin: OK, thanks very much, I'll check things out a bit more
[01:55] <`7> pdfedit
[01:56] <murlidhar> schopra: search in synaptic
[01:56] <Dalehead> logik4:  i'm getting an error when installing the driver
[01:56] <Yodude> hello, how come when i right click on the desktop, then i click "create document" i get no options ??? In KDE i go get them but nothing in gnome
[01:56] <Dalehead> ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[01:56] <Dalehead> ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[01:57] <Dalehead> that's installing the proprietary linux driver
[01:57] <murlidhar> ok21: reinstalling grub would be a much better option
[01:57] <Yodude> anybody knows how to fix this ?
[01:58] <logik4> Dalehead: let me check
[01:58] <Dalehead> thanks
[01:58] <Yodude> how come when i right click on the desktop, then i click "create document" i get no options ??? In KDE i go get them but nothing in gnome
[01:59] <Dalehead> ahh, interesting it says it does not support cards earlier than 9500
[02:00] <arnath> hmm strange, my windows drive is in fstab, but its not auto-mounting?
[02:00] <logik4> ok
[02:01] <murlidhar> arnath: it is better to use ntfs-3g than touching the fstab
[02:02] <arnath> ntfs-3g?
[02:02] <AndrewB> !ntfs-3g > arnath (see pm)
[02:03] <arnath> is it "reliable" yet?
[02:03] <murlidhar> just sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g and sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[02:03] <arnath> i have no real need to write to my windows drive
[02:04] <murlidhar> arnath: it gives an option to delete viruses from windows xp:)
[02:04] <arnath> murlidhar: hah, nice one :D
[02:04] <arnath> murlidhar: but the xp is purely for gaming, i dont anticipate virusses
[02:05] <kyja> I have a duplicate item in my places menu... any idea;s how to get er gone ?
[02:05] <murlidhar> arnath: u never know trojans are a common if u play multiplayer
[02:05] <Innomen> hi all, it tells me the ndiswrapper package is broken, and when i try ti repair it i get what looks like an overwrite error. This makes sense to me because arent i useing it to talk to the net?
[02:06] <arnath> murlidhar: meh, im careful, and if it goes bonkers, ill just reinstall windows
[02:06] <Dalehead> logik4: Thanks for your help, i'm going to try a re-install, and then the links you sent previously.  A friend of mine has worked on this machine, so knowing eveything is clean may help
[02:06] <murlidhar> arnath: ur choice
[02:06] <Dalehead> appreciate your time
[02:06] <logik4> Deal:  try thi
[02:06] <logik4> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon-prer200.html
[02:07] <logik4> also go into /etc/X11
[02:07] <psycose> hello i'am trying the 7.10 beta install from 7.04 where can i post my problems to contribute ? tanks
[02:07] <logik4> the gdm will help
[02:07] <Dalehead> that's the file that won't run
[02:07] <Dalehead> i got a lot to learn in linux :)
[02:07] <murlidhar> me too :)
[02:07] <Dalehead> hehe
[02:07] <Dalehead> thanks all
[02:08] <nonix4> Umm, where do I report bugs on the ubuntu web site itself? Looks like it sets background color but not foreground, thus breaking up when using themes / high contrast (reverse)...
[02:08] <erUSUL> psycose: for help on 7.10 #ubuntu+1 if you found bugs...
[02:09] <yakamoz424> :prrr:ho015f mekan:prrr:
[02:09] <erUSUL> !bugs | psycose
[02:09] <ubotu> psycose: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[02:09] <jrib> nonix4: launchpad.net
[02:09] <psycose> i've got a few packages failed to download while upgrading 7.04 to 7.10 they are all related to the linux kernel (Failed to fetch http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-image-generic_<IP_ADDRESS>.19_i386.deb 404 Not Found) any tips? thanks
[02:09] <psycose> thanks erUSUL
[02:10] <logik4> bye all
[02:10] <stdin> psycose: run "sudo apt-get update" first
[02:10] <erUSUL> psycose: see the topic... some mirrors are still catching up... and as i said gutsy help _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[02:10] <Innomen> well, my bar and desktop apear to have vanished, if there a key shortcut for rebooting?
[02:10] <jrib> nonix4: launchpad.net/ubuntu-website more specifically
[02:10] <stdin> psycose: or try using the main archive
[02:10] <Innomen> other than the powerbuton by default?
[02:10] <Innomen> anything like "task manager"  in ubuntu?
[02:11] <Erix> hi
[02:11] <salox> hi
[02:11] <jrib> Innomen: you can restart X with ctrl-alt-backspace
[02:12] <nonix4> jrib: that'd be the ubuntu-website project there?
[02:12] <jrib> nonix4: yes
[02:12] <chong> is there a daily gutsy iso that i could test?
[02:13] <Bassetts> is there a way to convert xvid to mpg in ubuntu
[02:13] <jrib> chong: gutsy help in #ubuntu+1
[02:14] <chong> jrib, tx
[02:14] <nonix4> as usual, already reported as #102394 ... but w/ a slightly different context.
[02:17] <salox> some basic applications like test editors and html editors, moves really slow. Lot of CPU used, and image is fragmented when scroll left and right in  the text window. Other applications runs good like GIMP. What can i do to move it faster ? I have a 900Mhz Duron, 512 Mb RAM. What is the reason for so much processor usage? Kernel problem ?
[02:17] <salox> text
[02:19] <lamego> salox, you understand that is very old system to run graphical apps, right ?
[02:19] <kditty> i have a problem, i cant type into any apps with my keyboard, right now i have to go into a terminal and type-copy-paste what i want to say. anyone know what might be causing this?
[02:19] <lamego> you should use xubuntu, and just light apps
[02:19] <salox> i use xubuntu
[02:19] <salox> but
[02:19] <salox> to much processor usage for what
[02:19] <salox> ...
[02:20] <salox> text editor
[02:20] <salox> ?
[02:20] <broken> I need some help, I'm looking for xlib6g and I can't find/install it.
[02:20] <kditty> also only the enter button on my numberpad will work to send to this chann
[02:20] <opt> hi, i am an Ubuntu newbie, help me.
[02:20] <lamego> salox, for the graphical libraries processing ?
[02:20] <jcs> salox: you could try disabling text antialiasing in font options.
[02:20] <lamego> broken, are you sure that is the library name your are needing ?
[02:20] <salox> maybe is an ideea
[02:20] <broken> lamego: yes. It says that its not satisfied when I am trhying to install this guitar tuner.
[02:20] <salox> but
[02:21] <salox> in mandriva
[02:21] <salox> moves much faster
[02:21] <salox> i686 kernel
[02:21] <salox> maybe is this another reason
[02:21] <jcs> salox: in that case it could well be a problem with your X configuration.  What kind of graphics card are you using?
[02:21] <broken> lamego: im reading in some documentation that lib6 is also known as glibc, i've tried looking for glibc by searching "glibc" but it didn't come up with anything.
[02:22] <salox> geforce 4 MX 440
[02:22] <lamego> broken, you are looking for the core C library, if you are going to compile you just need to install: build-essential
[02:22] <kyja> I have a duplicate item in my places menu... any idea;s how to get er gone ?
[02:22] <lamego> that includes libc6-dev
[02:22] <lamego> kyja, /usr/share/applications
[02:22] <jcs> salox: in the "Device" section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf, do you have the "nv" driver or the "nvidia" driver?
[02:23] <salox> nvidia
[02:23] <broken> lamego: build-essential is already the newest version
[02:23] <lamego> broken, that means you have libc6 already :)
[02:23] <lamego> broken, what are you trying to achieve ?
[02:23] <ganesh> lamego:how to install .bin file in ubuntu?
[02:23] <jcs> salox: in that case I'm out of ideas, apart from comparing your mandriva and ubuntu xorg.conf files to see if there could be critical differences
[02:23] <jcs> salox: unless you're using desktop effects of course
[02:23] <lamego> ganadist, a bin file is usualy a binary or script, chmod u+x file.bin; file./bin
[02:23] <lamego> on the terminal
[02:23] <salox> games like chromium moves ok
[02:23] <broken> lamego: i am trying to open this stupid "executable" file..
[02:24] <broken> And I double click it and nothing happens.
[02:24] <lamego> broken, you can open executables on linux by just click on them
[02:24] <lamego> this is not windows :)
[02:24] <lamego> you can not
[02:24] <broken> lol
[02:24] <salox> i don't understand why is used so much processor for thext moving on the screen
[02:24] <salox> text
[02:24] <kyja> lamego, places menu. I have to desktop selectors. :(
[02:24] <jrib> yes you can...
[02:25] <Innomen> Whenever i trying to reinstall or remove ndiswrapper "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ndiswrapper-common_1.38-1ubuntu1_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/sbin/loadndisdriver', which is also in package ndiswrapper"
[02:25] <jcs> salox: are you using Feisty or Gutsy?
[02:25] <salox> is there any i686 kernel for ubuntu pls ?
[02:25] <broken> lamego: ./gstring-dynamic-i386: error while loading shared libraries: libdrfftw.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:25] <jcs> salox: it is really unlikely to be a kernel issue.
[02:25] <broken> lol
[02:25] <lamego> broken, that binary depends on a library which you do not have installed
[02:25] <salox> feisty i think . Xubuntu 7.04
[02:26] <broken> jesus christ. librariers :d
[02:26] <jrib> Innomen: are you mixing repos?
[02:26] <Innomen> jrib: no idea
[02:26] <broken> lamego: could you perhaps enlighten me to which library that is?
[02:26] <dam9> hi, i am a new ubuntu user (switched from windows) and all is going well, google works like a charm but I just have a quick question:  what program do people commonly use to encode videos into XVID format in Ubuntu?
[02:27] <broken> google works like a charm lol..
[02:27] <lamego> broken, that library is not available on any of the ubuntu repositories packages
[02:27] <ikonia> dam9: you asked this eariler, mencoder is good, with any front end
[02:27] <broken> of all the things that could go wrong, googles going to be always working.
[02:27] <Innomen> broken: yea that means he/she can get to the net