[01:58] <whippy> is it cause of the server? or is this a user setting?
[01:58] <eth01> tmarkey: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:58] <eth01> that was me btw :p
[01:59] <pag> whippy, well.. both; server enables that option by default, but it can be disabled afaik.
[01:59] <whippy> you mean from the user?
[01:59] <pag> whippy, yup.
[01:59] <whippy> its possible for the user, but the change would take affect to all users...
[02:00] <whippy> i see ;)
[02:00] <whippy> yesterday i made a fine party ;) nothing about PC...
[02:00] <whippy> was real fine ;)
[02:00] <whippy> (: i know its a pc channel ;)
[02:00] <whippy> no troubles, only wanted to mention it ;)
[02:01] <whippy> perhaps today or tomorrow i also going to try mediaubuntu
[02:02] <whippy> pag, you know is there a antivirus software for linux?
[02:02] <whippy> clamav or so?
[02:02] <whippy> or is there a better one?
[02:02] <pag> whippy, clamav is one, but since I don't use them I cannot rate them
[02:03] <tmarkey> where can i get mediaubuntu?
[02:03] <tmarkey> sudo apt-get install mediaubuntu?
[02:03] <whippy> so u use no AV on your machine?
[02:03] <pag> tmarkey, what do you mean by mediaubuntu
[02:03] <pag> !virus
[02:03] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[02:03] <whippy> thats about singing packages or?
[02:03] <eth01> :/
[02:03] <whippy> cause every ubuntu package is signed with a hash, or?
[02:04] <pag> whippy, yeah. that and rights-managment create a pretty safe enviroment
[02:04] <eth01> damn.. i need to play .avi files
[02:04] <eth01> what should i use
[02:05] <whippy> is the hash is automatically enabled?
[02:05] <pag> eth01, as I said... w32codecs or w64codecs (depends on your arch)
[02:05] <whippy> and the repositories are automatically trusted?
[02:05] <eth01> im using feisty *
[02:05] <whippy> the few repo-servers?
[02:05] <eth01> and I don't know how to install it
[02:05] <whippy> @eth01 or you try mplayer,
[02:05] <pag> whippy, not sure if I'm following... I guess it is(?)
[02:05] <pag> !medibuntu | eth01
[02:05] <ubotu> eth01: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[02:06] <whippy> cause in other Linux distributions it shows a SHA sum
[02:06] <whippy> or a MD5 and here i can't see any hash on the screen, ask me self if this is checked in the background?
[02:07] <pag> whippy, md5sums are checked automatically, and can be seen via apt-cache show package
[02:07] <whippy> nope,
[02:07] <whippy> i cant see anything
[02:08] <whippy> ah ok
[02:08] <whippy> you mean as "package" the name of it oke
[02:08] <whippy> try again
[02:08] <whippy> yeah right, works
[02:08] <whippy> whow thats really cool
[02:09] <eth01> ive done the 2 commands for mediabuntu, where will i find it
[02:09] <eth01> ?
[02:09] <pag> eth01, sudo apt-get install w**codecs
[02:09] <crube> I want to add my extrenal HD to appear as a normal folder to my home/username directory. If I add a normal link it opens to a new windows and I dont want it that way. Can I make a symbolic link to make this happen? Something like "ls -s /media/myHD /home/username/folder
[02:10] <pag> eth01, substitute ** to 32 or 64
[02:10] <whippy> they wanted to put ubuntu on new notebooks i heard,,,,,
[02:10] <whippy> does someone knew something about that?
[02:10] <eth01> try apt-get -f install
[02:10] <praecox_1> hej guys
[02:10] <whippy> hey praecox
[02:11] <praecox_1> where can I find tutorial on how to set XGL/Compiz on Kubuntu Feisty?
[02:11] <eth01> ah too many packages :)
[02:11] <praecox_1> there's everywhere Ubuntu guides, not Kubuntu ones.
[02:11] <pag> crube, symbolic links should work... or you can change the mountpoin from the fstab... ln -s  is far easier though
[02:11] <pag> praecox_1, they mosty work on both
[02:12] <eth01> im trying to install cpanel on ubuntu haha
[02:12] <praecox_1> pag, and which one is better: compiz or beryl?
[02:12] <whippy> @eth1
[02:12] <praecox_1> pag, afaik beryl is based on compiz.
[02:12] <whippy> i last tried to install kdevelop, the new one,
[02:12] <pag> praecox_1, compiz is more stable, beryl looks nicer
[02:13] <crube> pag: I didn't think of that. Making a symlink didn't work. It just game me a list of the folders so there might be some other option I need to add to make a folder-to-folder symlink.
[02:13] <whippy> i worked with apt-get -f install
[02:13] <whippy> dpkg --install packagename
[02:13] <eth01> yea, that's what I have just done
[02:13] <whippy> and
[02:13] <whippy> apt-get remove packagename
[02:14] <whippy> and you have to keep attention to the responding messages on your screen
[02:14] <whippy> somethimes there is a special library needed,
[02:14] <whippy> with a special version number, than you have to check if the library is there
[02:14] <whippy> if a lower one is there,
[02:14] <whippy> u have to remove it,
[02:14] <whippy> and install the right one,
[02:14] <pag> crube, umm... I've tried " ln -s /media/sda2 /home/pavel/Desktop/Windows " and it worked fine for me
[02:15] <eth01> apt-get -f install, looks like it updates/installs packages needed
[02:15] <praecox_1> pag, ok, will try compiz. has you got any working howto for XGL/Compiz on Kubuntu?
[02:15] <pag> praecox_1, personally I didn'n manage to get either of those to work... ask in #ubuntu-effects
[02:15] <crube> pag:  alright I might have just typed something wrong I'll try again
[02:16] <praecox_1> pag, sounds good, thanks.
[02:16] <crube> pag heh. I typed "ls" instead of "ln" and it gave me a list :D
[02:17] <pag> crube, heh... :D
[02:17] <mikearthur> I'm trying to use debuild to build a dpkg file
[02:17] <dromer> anyone here with experience with Pocket PC's and syncing them on linux?
[02:18] <mikearthur> but it keeps wanting to build amd64 stuff?
[02:18] <mikearthur> on my i386 system
[02:21] <eth01> kaffeine can actually play .avi stuff
[02:22] <crube> Kaffeine is a good video player
[02:24] <eth01> it loads the title stuff, but doesn't play heh
[02:26] <crube> eth01: What file type?
[02:26] <BluesKaj> Howdy All
[02:26] <eth01> www.whatson.com
[02:26] <eth01> im trying to play that
[02:26] <eth01> what does your box use to play it?!
[02:27] <crube> eth01: That's a flash movie.
[02:28] <eth01> part of it is.
[02:28] <eth01> it has music/radio attached
[02:28] <crube> Oh
[02:28] <crube> have you tried mozilla-mplayer package?
[02:29] <eth01> how can i use that?
[02:29] <eth01> apt-get ?
[02:31] <tmarkey> .
[02:33] <mario_> I found grubconf ...but I can't install it
[02:34] <eth01> crube: how can i install mozzila-mplayer?
[02:35] <gnomefreak> eth01: sudo apt-get install mplayer (or mozilla-mplayer)
[02:36] <mario_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29472/
[02:36] <crube> eth01: "sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer"
[02:38] <eth01> :)
[02:38] <eth01> is there anyway to run multiple processes of dkkg?
[02:38] <eth01> dpkg *
[02:39] <_Shade_> !java
[02:39] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[02:52] <drif_> does anyone know if security.ubuntu.com is currently down?
[02:59] <BluesKaj> drif_,yes it appears to be down
[03:11] <ardchoille> Are some of the repos down or is my connection acting bad?
[03:11] <ardchoille> Oh, never mind.
[03:22] <crube> I get stuck for a very long time on "Waiting for headers" every time I apt-get
[03:24] <clau85> hi. i cannot upgrade nexuiz from 2.0 to 2.3(or 2.2.3?), because it breaks. what can i do about it?
[03:27] <BluesKaj> clau85, sometimes upgrading an app isn't such a good idea
[03:27] <r00t_> um my Kmenu bar just randomly decided to disapeer,ive tried rebooting and its still gone
[03:28] <r00t_> whats the menubars package name?or how would i restart it from a CL?
[03:28] <BluesKaj> clau85, you may need to upgrade associated dependencies , but adept or synaptic should tell you that
[03:30] <ardchoille> r00t_: dcop kicker default restart
[03:30] <BluesKaj> r00t_, no k-menu at all ?
[03:30] <ardchoille> That wil restart kicker
[03:31] <r00t_> huh it showed up for a second then vanished again
[03:33] <eth01> ouch, why does feisty look like ubuntu :/
[03:33] <eth01> its changed meh
[03:34] <r00t_> eth01: feisty kubuntu looks like ubuntu?well they are both ubuntu
[03:34] <eth01> graphically.
[03:34] <eth01> the wallpaper/ etc
[03:35] <yotux> Is it possible to install kubuntu without a Internet connect on the alternative cd?
[03:35] <r00t_> are there any other options for a kmenu like thing?kooldock crashes on me so thats out of the question
[03:37] <BluesKaj> uhoh r00t_ , sounds like you have deeper probs
[03:37] <eth01> hmm how can i install libauthen-pam-perl :)
[03:38] <eth01> apt-get doesn't work
[03:39] <r00t_> eth01:what do you mean apt-get dosent work?
[03:39] <r00t_> how so?
[03:39] <r00t_> BluesKaj: kooldock crashed after a fresh install,thats nothing new
[03:39] <eth01> the package doesn't exist.
[03:40] <ardchoille> eth01: Which package?
[03:40] <eth01> its needed for webmin
[03:40] <clau85> BluesKaj: adept just sais "break", but won't say anything
[03:40] <eth01> libauthen-pam-perl :)
[03:40] <ardchoille> !webmin
[03:40] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[03:41] <eth01> urgh.
[03:41] <eth01> managed to get this .deb however.
[03:41] <ardchoille> eth01: That what happens when you install .deb's, you have to hunt down deps manually. Was that .deb built for ubuntu?
[03:42] <eth01> it compiled fine.
[03:42] <eth01> what else do you suggest?
[03:42] <ardchoille> Don't use webmin?
[03:42] <eth01> what else then using webmin
[03:43] <flake> i just played with a gutsy appliance in vmware and it seems to run well, is it ready for prime time
[03:43] <ardchoille> What are you trying to accomplish?
[03:43] <eth01> I want a control panel, with the likes of webmin.
[03:44] <ardchoille> Well, if you want to use webmin, despite it no longer being supported, you'll have to resolve dependencies manually.
[03:45] <ardchoille> eth01: Keep in mind, resolving one dep may require resolving several deps for that one dep.. then you go on to the next dep.
[03:45] <ardchoille> Welcome to dependency hell :)
[03:46] <eth01> :P
[03:47] <eth01> so you don't know of another control panel :P
[03:47] <ardchoille> Control panel for a web host?
[03:47] <eth01> no, server management
[03:47] <ardchoille> PErhaps use ssh and learn how to do things on the command line?
[03:48] <ardchoille> That will solve your deps problem and teach you new things at the same time
[03:49] <eth01> yes
[03:50] <flake> is anyone playing with gutsy
[03:50] <ardchoille> flake: You might want to also join #ubuntu+1 (gutsy support)
[03:50] <flake> ahh thanks
[03:50] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[03:51] <BluesKaj> ardchoille, are you saying apt and aptitude are able to gather the right dependencies from the repos more effectively than adept or synaptic ?
[03:52] <eth01> anyway thanks ardcho
[03:52] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: What do adept and synaptic use as their backends?
[03:54] <BluesKaj> dunno, the repos ? :)
[03:55] <ardchoille> APT
[03:55] <BluesKaj> yeah, that's why i asked
[03:56] <ardchoille> So the answer to your question is?
[03:56] <ardchoille> !info openarena
[03:56] <ubotu> openarena: A fast-paced 3D Ego-Shooter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-2 (feisty), package size 747 kB, installed size 1652 kB
[03:56] <BluesKaj> so then why isn't dept reporting what dependencies are needed in some cases , unless of course the pkg is a debian deb and not kubuntu
[03:57] <BluesKaj> adept
[03:57] <leileilol> there's a deb package of the new 0.7.0 on getdeb
[03:57] <eth01> meh i installed webmin
[03:57] <eth01> you need 2 perl .debs and your fine
[03:57] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: I don't know, I never use a gui for package management.
[03:57] <eth01> for me it was *
[03:58] <BluesKaj> i do sometimes , with stuff that needs a global install , like java, flash etc
[04:01] <_Iamda> define trolls
[04:01] <BluesKaj> !troll
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <_Iamda> when it comes toIRC, what are trolls?
[04:07] <BluesKaj> ardchoille, what browser do you use , I've been trying Konq since it's the safest according to most testing . I'd like to add some bookmarks to the toolbar , but how ?
[04:08] <ardchoille> elinks
[04:09] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: From what I remember, you can set a toolbar for bookmarks
[04:09] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: Settings > Toolbars > Bookmark toolbar
[04:13] <neko__> How i can install cedega ?
[04:14] <neko__>  File "/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/Point2Play_gui.py", line 37, in <module>
[04:14] <neko__>     raise Point2PlayError(_("Unable to load GTK2 Python bindings") + "(%s)" % str( sys.exc_info()[1]  ) )
[04:14] <neko__> NameError: name '_' is not defined
[04:14] <neko__> Help me
[04:16] <ardchoille> neko__: I think you need python-gtk2  and possibly python-gtk2-dev
[04:16] <ardchoille> may not need the dev package
[04:24] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Ping
[04:26] <BluesKaj> hey jhutchins , how goes it ?
[04:27] <BluesKaj> finally figured out how to add the bookmark folders to the konq toolbar ...took me some time but it 's working now
[04:27] <jim88> hi all ... I am trying having a problem with the helix-player not updating and I think my archive is corrupted .. does anyone know how I can rebuild my archives?
[04:29] <dr_willis> redownload it?
[04:29] <Minataku> lo, dr_willis
[04:29] <dr_willis> :)
[04:30] <BruceH> Hello everyone, I'm having a bit of difficulty with my xorg configuration. Specifically, I can't get the exact resolution/refresh rates I need.
[04:30] <BruceH> That I know my video card supports
[04:31] <jim88> hi all ... I am trying having a problem with the helix-player not updating and I think my archive is corrupted .. does anyone know how I can rebuild my archives?
[04:31] <Daisuke_Ido> !patience | jim88
[04:31] <ubotu> jim88: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:31] <stefan> !vnc
[04:31] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[04:31] <BluesKaj> BruceH, you also need to use the right drivers for your Monitor ..ppl sometimes forget that
[04:31] <jim88> ty
[04:32] <BluesKaj> BBL
[04:32] <BruceH> got them BluesKaj
[04:32] <Daisuke_Ido> BruceH: claiming 54hz when it should be 60?
[04:32] <BruceH> more like claiming 54 when it should be 87, but yes
[04:32] <tealson> is there a way to controle the cpu frequency through the kde panel (like it is possible in gnome)?
[04:32] <Daisuke_Ido> that's fairly typical.  not fun, but it happens a lot
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> and now unfortunately i got suckered into going to work on my day off, those bastards.
[04:33] <BruceH> It's gotta be an xorg config issue, right?
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> i would imagine so
[04:34] <BruceH> perhaps someone else can help. Thanks anyway, Daisuke
[04:36] <BruceH> restarting X, will hopefully be back in a moment
[04:38] <tzanger> just a quick question for a debian/kubuntu newb, but veteran Slackware user...  If I've already got an etch install cd, can I "install" kubuntu and obtain the same system as if I were to download a 7.04 CD and install it?
[04:38] <tzanger> I remember reading somewhere that it was trivial to change from ubuntu to kubuntu in that way, but I'm not sure about debian->kubuntu
[04:39] <jhutchins> tzanger: It's possible to transform ubuntu, which uses a Gnome desktop and default programs, to Kubuntu which uses KDE, and to have both Gnome and KDE available.
[04:39] <_4str1> tzanger: i dont think debian -> ubuntu gonna work
[04:39] <jhutchins> tzanger: On the other hand, a lot of people have problems with kubuntu installed on top of gnome..
[04:40] <tzanger> jhutchins: ok, I'd read that, so it's good to have confirmation... :-)
[04:40] <tzanger> _4str1: ok, I'll download the CD then :-)  Thanks
[04:40] <tameekawhite> hey guys got a question
[04:40] <tzanger> I'm gonna try like hell to make kubuntu work instead of fallingback on my old slackware... I love it but I've got zero knowledge to be able to help others using more modern distros
[04:40] <_4str1> !ask
[04:40] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:40] <jhutchins> tzanger: I would recommend that you download the kubuntu feisty fawn 7.04 CD, and install that if you're starting from scratch.
[04:40] <ardchoille> tzanger: If you download the ubuntu cd and install it, getting kde is a matter of  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:40] <tzanger> Juki_: ok, thanks
[04:41] <tzanger> thanks everyone, I appreciate it!
[04:41] <ardchoille> s/download/have/
[04:41] <Lynoure> If you have separate home, and not a complicated install, installing ubuntu instead of debian should not be that painful
[04:41] <tameekawhite> has anyone used unionfs on ubuntu server
[04:41] <dr_willis> I always install Ubuntu, then install Kubuntu-desktop
[04:41] <ardchoille> tzanger: You have the ubuntu cd already
[04:41] <ardchoille> ?
[04:42] <tzanger> I'm planning on doing a xen dom0 kubuntu so I can run winxp as a domu on this laptop
[04:42] <jhutchins> dr_willis: Why?  So you'll be aware of the problems that causes and be able to help?
[04:42] <tzanger> so LVM root
[04:42] <dr_willis> jhutchins,  i use some gnome apps.. and some kde appps.
[04:42] <dr_willis> Wife likes gnome., i perfer kde also..
[04:43] <jhutchins> dr_willis: Ok, you the goto guy now for mixed system problems.
[04:43] <dr_willis> Ive not really seen any problems from the systems being mixed
[04:43] <dr_willis> Its amazing how well one can run kde+gnome apps on the same desktop
[04:43] <dr_willis> I rember years ago there used to be some big issues. but cant think of any at the moment.
[04:44] <jhutchins> dr_willis: I've mostly seen problems with kubuntu on top of ubuntu - other systems, older systems with both worked fine, although there are more dependencies for gnome apps.
[04:44] <jhutchins> dr_willis: I suspect it's 90% user error, but we do get a lot in here.
[04:46] <dr_willis> I do MUCH perfer the gnome-cups-manager interface to add my printers..
[04:46] <dr_willis> i never can seem to get KDE to do it properly.
[04:46] <dr_willis> Plus the kde interface wants tto scan the 127.0.0.* network for networked printers.  Which is... weird.
[04:47] <dr_willis> I need a new printer one of these days
[04:47] <jhutchins> dr_willis: You can get some incredible deals these days.  I got a Brother laser printer for $80.  I think the cartridges for my old HP were pretty close to that.
[04:48] <ainesso> I have a problem with bluefish under kubuntu feisty
[04:49] <ainesso> I can't access my pages on the server using gnome-vfs
[04:49] <jhutchins> dr_willis: Do you see any common error that people who install kubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu make?
[04:49] <ainesso> even though this worked fine out of the box in dapper
[04:49] <dr_willis> Yea. But how much is the carts for the new printer. :) Seen a few cases where ya get a new printer and they dont even include full Toner Carts/
[04:49] <dr_willis> jhutchins,  other then theyh think that they converted their system to 'kde' when its just the splash/kdm themes that changed. :)
[04:49] <jhutchins> dr_willis: Hasn't run out yet, so we'll see.  (Been about six months).
[04:50] <dr_willis> Ive had my HP laserjet 6L - for 10+ years
[04:50] <dr_willis> average about one toner cart a year.   and i print a lot.
[04:50] <jhutchins> ainesso: You'd probably get get better support for gnome-vfs on #ubuntu.
[04:50] <jhutchins> ainesso: What protocol is it actually using?
[04:50] <ainesso> I know, but it's under kubuntu
[04:51] <dr_willis> Getting where its getting hard to FIND the toner carts locally.
[04:51] <ainesso> ftp over gnome-vfs
[04:51] <dr_willis> gnome maybe starting up some services that it needs. kde isent starting them
[04:51] <ainesso> the thing is
[04:51] <ainesso> this changed from dapper to feisty
[04:51] <jhutchins> ainesso: Hrmn.  My kde apps, and I also use Quanta, don't have any trouble dealing with ftp:// directly as a filesystem.
[04:53] <ainesso> I've allready tried #bluefish, but there's nobody there
[04:54] <dr_willis> start a gnome session in vnc. :) see if it works in kde and the gn0me-vncsession
[04:54] <dr_willis> then see what alls running
[04:54] <dr_willis> IF it works.
[04:54] <jhutchins> ainesso: Give Quanta a shot, I find it pretty useful, and I never did get bluefish to do anything useful for me.
[04:54] <ardchoille> !hardware
[04:54] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:55] <nosrednaekim> hello all.
[04:55] <nosrednaekim> I have a request.
[04:55] <ainesso> jhutchins: just moved from quanta to bluefish, guess we have different preferences :)
[04:55] <dr_willis> vi! :)
[04:55] <nosrednaekim> could the default KDE theme be made a little more glitzy?
[04:55] <jhutchins> ainesso: Yeah, part of it just depends on what you figure out first.
[04:56] <nosrednaekim> oh wait... i'll go over to kubuntu-devel
[04:56] <dr_willis> nosrednaekim,  they really dont care about the themes. :)
[04:56] <dr_willis> you can always download/install others.
[04:56] <jhutchins> nosrednaekim: Why don't you come up with something?
[04:56] <dr_willis> the devel's worry about the Core/Foundation of the KDE stuff..
[04:57] <nosrednaekim> I would love to, would they accept it?
[04:57] <dr_willis> I like Plastik.
[04:57] <dr_willis> kde-look.org - will accept anything...
[04:57] <jthomas> good day!  can anyone help me with qpage software setup for Sprint (USA)?
[04:57] <nosrednaekim> I mean a kubuntu default theme
[04:57] <jhutchins> nosrednaekim: It's not "they", it's "us" really.  Why does it have to be the default?
[04:57] <dr_willis> nosrednaekim,  well #2 - kubuntu is not kde' :)  Kubuntu has its own default theme.
[04:57] <jhutchins> nosrednaekim: Do something more appealing to everybody, everybody will like it and start using it.
[04:58] <dr_willis> themes are such a subjectve choice......
[04:58] <dr_willis> I perfer mine simple and clear.
[04:58] <dr_willis> Others want silly OS-X wannabes
[04:58] <nosrednaekim> I don't exactly mean themes, I mean turning on some of the transparency features and stuff.
[04:59] <nosrednaekim> I know that most kubuntu users aren't even aware that KDE's effects rival beryl's
[04:59] <jhutchins> ... or vista imitations that use up all the system resources with eyecandy and can't actually do anything.
[04:59] <dr_willis> problem with turning on ANY of the transperency effects by default - is that it can 'break' systems that were working.
[04:59] <dr_willis> I dont want eye candy. I disable it all. :)
[05:00] <ardchoille> same
[05:00] <hero> they slow me down
[05:00] <dr_willis> I want more panel applets. not more desktop-widgets...
[05:00] <ardchoille> Ditto
[05:00] <dr_willis> Ive yet to see how 'transparency' helps me bee more productive.
[05:00] <gumjo> same here
[05:00] <ardchoille> I have so many windows open that I rarely see my desktop
[05:01] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  i always keep them maxamized myself
[05:01] <nosrednaekim> ok, w/e. I just think the default theme looks crappy and doesn't show off KDE (no offense to the person who made it)
[05:01] <dr_willis> constantly slapping window users in the back of the head.. "Maxamize your *#*&@*&@ window so you are actually USING your 24" wide monitor dude...
[05:01] <dr_willis> :)
[05:01] <ardchoille> hahaha
[05:02] <ardchoille> dr_willis: Is there a seting that makes ALL windows open maximised by default?
[05:02] <ardchoille> That owuld be cool.
[05:02] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  not seen that in KDe. It might be doable.. but that can cause issues.
[05:02] <yotux> why would my download not meet checksum values?
[05:02] <dr_willis> MatchBox is a window manager (and others) that can do that. in a decently smart way.
[05:02] <ardchoille> yotux: Downloads can sometimes be corrupted
[05:03] <dr_willis> It can get annoying when a file save dialog gets forced tobe mazamized.. and screws up the layout
[05:03] <nosrednaekim> beryl can do it too.
[05:03] <yotux> is that a normal thing sometimes
[05:03] <ardchoille> dr_willis: Oh, yeah, didn't think about file save/save as dialogs
[05:03] <ardchoille> yotux: It happens
[05:03] <jthomas> right-click the top and make the Window Settings > Geometry always maximize.  But I think its bad!  if Unix is supposed to have a lot of smaller progs working together, that would include those with windows; why full screen them if you might want to see others?
[05:03] <nosrednaekim> in beryl you can tell it which types of windows to start maximized
[05:05] <yotux> ardchoille:  Learned today why it is important to run md5sum,  I have a bad ISO for kubuntu
[05:05] <ardchoille> yotux: Yeah
[05:05] <yotux> ardchoille:  thanks for the info
[05:06] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[05:06] <germanjew> !mp3
[05:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:08] <ardchoille> Is there a way to make the cursor disappear after a few seconds of typing?
[05:12] <cs5> can anyone help me i did a dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy and now i cant boot my ubuntu. I am broken and desperate for a quick fix.
[05:12] <germanjew> !3g
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <r00t_> cs5: what do you mean you cant boot
[05:12] <zombielion> im trying to install cinelerra im needing to install these files libmpeg3hv libquicktimehvim working on the mpeg one now. im not good at installing tar files this is my first time. it is telling me 22 unexpected operator and 29 unexpected operater when i ./configure what does this mean
[05:13] <cs5> I am running live because it sits frozen after the initialization
[05:13] <cs5> it loads all, then stops
[05:13] <germanjew> how can set up internet (dailup) on my laptop (its a simcard in my pc)
[05:13] <cs5> at kubuntu screen with loading bar
[05:13] <r00t_> im still haveing problems with my K-menu bar not showing up
[05:14] <SlimeyPete> how long have you waited, cs5? networking problems can sometmes make the system hang for several minutes
[05:14] <cs5> 15 minutes
[05:14] <SlimeyPete> ah. that's long enough :)
[05:14] <cs5> i thought so too
[05:14] <cs5> :)
[05:15] <r00t_> any one have a idea of how to geet my menu working again?or could i install a difrent type of k-menu?
[05:15] <cs5> it asked about ntv? all or none or somesuch, i said all and i believe that might be the problem, i am not using raid drives.
[05:15] <cs5> or nvm? sound familiar?
[05:15] <jhutchins_lt> !install
[05:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[05:15] <r00t_> !xbox
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xbox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <r00t_> does K/ubuntu have a xbox version?
[05:16] <germanjew> !ppp
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ppp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <germanjew> !pppoe
[05:16] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[05:20] <cs5> has anyone tried the gutsy release?
[05:20] <kamui_> how do I turn on my intel GMA 945's dual headed display in KDE?
[05:20] <ardchoille> cs5: It's still alpha, probably not a good idea unless you're planning to help test
[05:21] <sdlnxgk> how can I move nvidia config box in 800x600?? can't choose apply !!
[05:21] <cs5> i dont mind that, i tried to instal it with nothing good come of it, it didnt like the partitioning in place and it wouldnt make its own
[05:21] <cs5> the tribe 1 release
[05:21] <cs5> havent tried tribe 2 yet
[05:22] <mrEiger> why i can't start my ligitech quickcam pro4000 and avermedia tv studio 305 in kubuntu?
[05:24] <cs5> anyone know why i cant start my kubuntu after an upgrade. I did the updates succesfully, then the upgrade and kaput.
[05:25] <ThePhilosopher> hi
[05:25] <sdlnxgk> I did upgrades last night and having issues with resolution
[05:25] <ThePhilosopher> how to change a user home directory ?
[05:26] <dr_willis> change in what way?
[05:26] <cs5> i think he/she means to physically move it.
[05:26] <WhoaMann> Hi wondering if anyone can help me
[05:26] <ThePhilosopher> dr_willis, it seem that one of my account no longuer as a home directory
[05:26] <dr_willis> ThePhilosopher,  check in /home see if the dir still exists
[05:27] <ThePhilosopher> dr_willis, yea it does
[05:27] <WhoaMann> when I go to the boot of install option on ubuntu it goes for a while then says x  server not found
[05:27] <WhoaMann> Something about screen not found as well
[05:27] <ThePhilosopher> dr_willis, but i get this when i try to log on "No directory,looging with HOME=/
[05:28] <dr_willis> see what the permissions are for  the /home and /home/username
[05:29] <dr_willis> drwxr-xr-x   4 root   root    4096 2007-05-18 22:59 home
[05:29] <ThePhilosopher> rw-r--r--
[05:29] <dr_willis> drwxr-xr-x 55 willis willis 4096 2007-07-11 11:23 willis
[05:29] <dr_willis> looks like your perms are incorrect
[05:29] <ThePhilosopher> dr_willis, yea ...
[05:30] <ThePhilosopher> what the correct ones ?
[05:30] <dr_willis> drwxr-xr-x   - I would GUess. since thats whats on mine. :)
[05:30] <ThePhilosopher> dr_willis, lol k on it
[05:31] <cs5> nevermind, i'll reformat/re-install then i guess
[05:31] <ardchoille> ThePhilosopher: are the perms rw-r--r-- for a directory?
[05:31] <jhutchins_lt> visudo
[05:31] <jhutchins_lt> Er, vipw
[05:32] <login_> Hi guys , i have a question for the developers, I am making an ubuntu deriative but i came into troubles when i compiled my own kernel . My pc needs to do acpi=off to boot but ounce i boot , no usb slots are detected . This happens on every other OS except ubuntu , I wanted to ask what patches are you added t othe kernel or what did you do to it to make it not have to do acpi=off or make it detect my usb 2.0 slots?
[05:32] <ThePhilosopher> ardchoille, yea
[05:32] <ThePhilosopher> dr_willis, thanks probleme solve
[05:32] <ardchoille> ThePhilosopher: If a directory has rw-r--r-- for its perms, then it's wrong. Have you been running recursive chmod as rot?
[05:32] <ardchoille> *root
[05:32] <login_> Hi guys , i have a question for the developers, I am making an ubuntu deriative but i came into troubles when i compiled my own kernel . My pc needs to do acpi=off to boot but ounce i boot , no usb slots are detected . This happens on every other OS except ubuntu , I wanted to ask what patches are you added t othe kernel or what did you do to it to make it not have to do acpi=off or make it detect my usb 2.0 slots?
[05:32] <ThePhilosopher> ardchoille, i think so i did something but i dont really now what lol
[05:32] <ardchoille> ThePhilosopher: most dirs must be a+x
[05:33] <jhutchins_lt> login_: Don't think that's a question for #kubuntu.  You might try #ubuntu-devel, but don't repeat yourself like that, be very patient.
[05:33] <ardchoille> ThePhilosopher: Be careful when you run recursive commands that remove the execute bit. If you mistakenly type a-x  instead of o-x you will discover that you have locked yourself out: chmod removes execute permissions from the parent directory. This will remove access to the affected directories.
[05:33] <login_> ok , thank you jhutchins . I will also wait here to see if the users n othe anwser to my problem
[05:33] <ThePhilosopher> ardchoille,  I see thanks
[05:33] <ardchoille> ThePhilosopher: http://imacgregor.com/Linux/LinuxFilePermissions
[05:34] <ThePhilosopher> ok
[05:34] <ThePhilosopher> i want to change the file /etc/hosts
[05:34] <ThePhilosopher> how do i do it ?
[05:35] <dr_willis> edit it with a text editor , with root permissions.
[05:35] <ardchoille> sudo vim /etc/hosts
[05:35] <ardchoille> or nano
[05:35] <ThePhilosopher> okk great
[05:35] <ardchoille> lol
[05:35] <dr_willis> that hopefully TEACH the person what they need to do.
[05:35] <ThePhilosopher> ardchoille, i come from slackware and this sudo thing really drive me nut
[05:35] <dr_willis> :)
[05:35] <dr_willis> sudo thing?
[05:35] <dr_willis> heh..
[05:35] <ardchoille> !sudo | ThePhilosopher
[05:35] <dr_willis> its not that different.
[05:35] <ubotu> ThePhilosopher: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:36] <jhutchins_lt> !kdesu
[05:36] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:36] <dr_willis> !info sux
[05:36] <ubotu> sux: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (feisty), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB
[05:36] <dr_willis> from the shell its about identical. for Shell apps.
[05:36] <ThePhilosopher> ubotu, i know but i just dont find very natural or more secure...
[05:36] <ardchoille> !bot
[05:36] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:37] <ardchoille> ThePhilosopher: can't brute force a locked root account ;)
[05:37] <ThePhilosopher> ardchoille, well you can do it with anoter acount
[05:38] <ardchoille> ThePhilosopher: Yes, but you would need the username
[05:38] <ardchoille> And I don't know the usernames on your box
[05:38] <dr_willis> It  better security Practice...
[05:38] <ThePhilosopher> ardchoille, good point...
[05:38] <dr_willis> thus that makes it more 'secure' in the long run.
[05:39] <ThePhilosopher> ardchoille, but it would simplier to just forbid remote loggin for root
[05:39] <ardchoille> I didn't like sudo at first, but I wouldn't run without it now.
[05:39] <dr_willis> Its hard to be against a 'keep things as  secure as possible' mentality.
[05:39] <tzanger> hmm
[05:39] <login_> anyone have a nanwser to my question?
[05:39] <tzanger> the desktop install CD doesn't know much about LVM... do I need the alternate CD for that?
[05:40] <dr_willis> Unless its done in a STUPID way like MS did with that  'permission dialog' thing.
[05:40] <ardchoille> lol
[05:40] <login_> anyone have an anwser to my question?
[05:40] <ardchoille> !patience
[05:40] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:40] <dr_willis> I dident even see a question.
[05:40] <dr_willis> :)
[05:40] <login_> but the question is lost
[05:40] <jim88> hi again, I need help ... have been having trouble not being able to update for over a month ... I think my archives maybe corrupted ... anyone know if there is there a way to rebuild archives ... my apt-get cannot update
[05:40] <login_> please scroll up
[05:40] <dr_willis> !kernel
[05:40] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:40] <login_> the people wont make me repeat but the question will be lost now :(
[05:41] <dr_willis> thats about all i know about kernels under ubuntu. not had to mess with them since ive started using Ubintu. :)
[05:41] <ardchoille> login_: you might try the developers channel
[05:41] <ardchoille> dr_willis: same
[05:41] <login_> i know how to build it but ubuntu added patches to it or something that makes my pc work , for example , my usb slots are detected and i dont have to do acpi=off
[05:48] <sdlnxgk> Grrrrrrrrr
[05:48] <sdlnxgk> can't change my resolution :(
[05:49] <sdlnxgk> everything seems to be ok but it's running in 640x480
[05:49] <istoka> me2 :\
[05:49] <istoka> the same here >.<
[05:49] <sdlnxgk> istoka did you do the update last night?
[05:50] <istoka> well no :P
[05:50] <sdlnxgk> after I did the update last night my resolution was hosed
[05:50] <istoka> i've installed the kubuntu this morning :)
[05:50] <sdlnxgk> oh ok
[05:50] <istoka> but i'll download the updates this night....
[05:50] <sdlnxgk> hmmmmmmmmmm
[05:50] <istoka> but how i can change the resolution ?
[05:50] <istoka> i'm new :P i don't know anything about kubuntu :)
[05:50] <sdlnxgk> start button> system settings
[05:51] <sdlnxgk> then choose monitor
[05:51] <sdlnxgk> great  peeps here for sure
[05:51] <istoka> you mean the console ?
[05:51] <sdlnxgk> I can't figure out how to move the config box around when in 640x480
[05:51] <istoka> i'm just installing codecs yay :D
[05:52] <sdlnxgk> no not console
[05:52] <sdlnxgk> bottom left start button
[05:53] <istoka> ah nevermind
[05:53] <istoka> my kubuntu is in bulgarian ><
[05:53] <sdlnxgk> ahhhhhh
[05:54] <istoka> i thought it will be easier for the first time :D
[05:54] <sdlnxgk> anyone here can tell me how to toggle around or move around in 640x480??
[05:54] <Kr4t05> Is anyone else having lag issues with updating packages.
[05:54] <Kr4t05> ?
[05:54] <sdlnxgk> was really easy for me just install and go
[05:54] <Kr4t05> security.ubuntu.com is really slow for me, today.
[05:55] <ardchoille> That repo is having issues
[05:55] <Kr4t05> Yeah.... I noticed. :P
[05:55] <Kr4t05> I think I might try a mirror, shortly.
[05:56] <ricky_ds> hi, I have around 20 packages in my update list, but it won't update. I tried a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade on the shell and it seems to hang when connecting to security.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[05:56] <sdlnxgk> ya it's lagging big time
[05:56] <ricky_ds> Kr4t05: ah, I'm not alone in the boat :)
[05:56] <istoka> try a mirror ? :)
[05:56] <ardchoille> Is there a way to make the cursor disappear after a few seconds of typing?
[05:56] <istoka> i've downloaded it without any problems
[05:57] <sdlnxgk> hmmmm not sure why my resolution is hosed for
[05:57] <ardchoille> !fixres
[05:57] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:57] <sdlnxgk> everything seems write and I went back to my config file
[05:57] <Xbehave> i have a very poor internet conection but ive had the same problem today
[05:58] <sdlnxgk> ardchoille, thanks will give that a try since nothing else seems to be working
[05:59] <ardchoille> sdlnxgk: You're welcome :)
[06:02] <jhutchins_lt> !ask
[06:02] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:03] <kamui_> anyone using dual displays?
[06:04] <ardchoille> !dual-head
[06:04] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[06:04] <istoka> bye guys!!!!
[06:04] <dr_willis> On myu Nvidia card - Using a DVI monitor and tv out - right now.
[06:04] <istoka> im going to watch the volleyball match between Bulgaria and Brazil
[06:04] <istoka> it's 1:1 now lol :D
[06:04] <kamui_> I need some advice from an actual successful dual head user
[06:04] <istoka> we'll crush brazil :Pp
[06:04] <istoka> bye !!! :D
[06:04] <kamui_> namely intel chipset
[06:04] <dr_willis> nvidia-xconfg --twinview
[06:04] <dr_willis> :)
[06:04] <kamui_> yea, I know nvidia rocks
[06:04] <kamui_> I have a great working 6800 at home
[06:05] <sdlnxgk> dr_willis, having issues getting back into 1920x1200 res
[06:05] <kamui_> I got dual display working here at work on my GMA 945, the issue Imhaving is that Im not sure if Its possible to have both displays DRI enabled.  So far only display 0 is dri enabled, and I DONT want to span the desktop
[06:05] <styx-tdo> hi my beryl doesn't like me.. no decoration. nvidia 7300 GS. googleing and changing xorg didn't help. dual-screen setup with 2 times 1280*1024
[06:06] <kaic> wich package should i install to compile?
[06:06] <ardchoille> styx-tdo: join #ubuntu-effects
[06:06] <ardchoille> kaic: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:07] <tzanger> this is going ot be quite the change from slackware -> kubuntu
[06:07] <tzanger> I'm gonna try to make it stick though
[06:07] <sdlnxgk> how can you scroll in 640x480
[06:07] <ardchoille> sdlnxgk: Does it help to move the mouse past the screen edge?
[06:07] <ardchoille> It sometimes heolps
[06:08] <sdlnxgk> ardchoille, nope doesn't help can't move box to check resolution then click apply
[06:09] <ardchoille> sdlnxgk: alt+click and drag the dialog?
[06:09] <sdlnxgk> I did this before but can't remember what I did
[06:09] <sdlnxgk> let me try
[06:09] <ardchoille> I use that to move windows instead of using the titlebar
[06:09] <sdlnxgk> dude that was it :)
[06:09] <ardchoille> :)
[06:09] <sdlnxgk> move windows didn't move it far enough but that worked awesome :)
[06:10] <sdlnxgk> i'll have to remember that quick key command :D
[06:10] <dr_willis> yep. :)
[06:10] <dr_willis> handy
[06:10] <dr_willis> I use the 'move' menu item on the task manager all the time also.
[06:11] <dr_willis> when the windows pop up on the wrong display
[06:11] <ardchoille> sdlnxgk: There are lots more key combos and you can make your own:  kcontrol > Regional > Keyboard Shortcuts
[06:12] <ardchoille> I'd be lost without the slt key
[06:12] <ardchoille> s/slt/alt/
[06:13] <sdlnxgk> now I gotta remember how to get my SLI mode back
[06:15] <sdlnxgk> brb
[06:21] <nozkan_> hi
[06:21] <ardchoille> hi
[06:22] <nozkan_> kubuntu limeware and dogguard apps my problem limeware connected but not download file
[06:22] <kaic> when i try to use cmd make [sudo make setup check]  it returns there are no rules for target setup. why?
[06:23] <ardchoille> kaic: Try ./configure
[06:24] <ardchoille> kaic: And you rarely need sudo for the make command
[06:24] <ardchoille> You more likely need sudo for "make install"
[06:24] <nozkan_> Trke konuabilen varm ?
[06:25] <ardchoille> !tk
[06:26] <kaic> ardchoille: i'm a beginner.. who sould i use ./configure?
[06:27] <ardchoille> kaic: Compiling from source?
[06:27] <ardchoille> kaic: Many source packages include a configure script, so the usual compile steps would be: ./configure, make, sudo make install
[06:27] <ardchoille> kaic: But
[06:28] <ardchoille> I would recommend you read any README, INSTALL or NOTES files first.
[06:29] <ardchoille> !limewire
[06:30] <onechard> use frostwire instead
[06:30] <ardchoille> kaic: Also, it's worth checking the repos or docs before compiling from source as many times you'll find the app you want is just an apt-get install away
[06:31] <ardchoille> Oh, the bot is gone :(
[06:31] <ardchoille> onechard: I thought maybe you took over for the bot for a minute
[06:31] <login_> Hi guys , i have a question for the developers, I am making an ubuntu deriative but i came into troubles when i compiled my own kernel . My pc needs to do acpi=off to boot but ounce i boot , no usb slots are detected . This happens on every other OS except ubuntu , I wanted to ask what patches are you added t othe kernel or what did you do to it to make it not have to do acpi=off or make it detect my usb 2.0 slots
[06:32] <sdlnxgk> !sli
[06:32] <ardchoille> sdlnxgk: The bot is gone
[06:33] <sdlnxgk> Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[06:33] <sdlnxgk> lol
[06:33] <sdlnxgk> was like WTF
[06:33] <ardchoille> likely routing issues with the network
[06:33] <jussi01> !netsplit
[06:33] <TeraDyne> jussi01: the bot is gone
[06:33] <sdlnxgk> trying to find out  where to put Option "SLI" "True" at
[06:33] <jussi01> I just noticed...
[06:34] <TeraDyne> login_: Might want to ask in #ubuntu-devel or #kubuntu-devel
[06:34] <ardchoille> TeraDyne: He's there, probably not getting any replies.
[06:35] <ardchoille> Tho, that is a specialised question.
[06:35] <ubuntu> ciao
[06:36] <ubuntu> uuuuuuuuuuuu
[06:37] <MidMark> someone can help me with this cdrom that literaly disappears after installatio?
[06:37] <MidMark> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/124187
[06:38] <TeraDyne> you want to hear somethign really odd? I se the bot in the devel channels...
[06:38] <ardchoille> Maybe they're wroking on it.. upgrading or something
[06:38] <germanjew> !kdm
[06:38] <TeraDyne> ardchoille: probably.
[06:38] <TeraDyne> germanjew: No bot
[06:38] <kilrae> !wheresthebot
[06:39] <germanjew> TeraDyne: :(
[06:39] <TeraDyne> hmmm... I wonder...
[06:39] <germanjew> !whereisthebot
[06:39] <kilrae> !showthyself
[06:39] <kilrae> maybe it's just hiding
[06:40] <kilrae> !ls -a | grep bot
[06:40] <TeraDyne> Well... msging the bot didn't work...
[06:40] <Hobbsee> no bot back at all yet
[06:40] <TeraDyne> Hobbsee: It's in the devel channels.
[06:40] <r00t_> GRRRRR still no k-menu,noone has any idea why my kmenu disapered and how to get it back?
[06:40] <fdoving> we depend on it too heavily.
[06:40] <ardchoille> r00t_: Is kicker working?>
[06:40] <r00t_> anyone know where streamripper saves files to?
[06:40] <Hobbsee> and ubuntu, for some reason
[06:41] <kilrae> r00t_? add it to a panel?
[06:41] <Hobbsee> fdoving: it was worse without it
[06:41] <fdoving> use http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi instead.
[06:41] <fdoving> or temporarily.
[06:41] <r00t_> ardchoille: i belive so,im not sure what kicker is but when i type it in it says its running
[06:41] <ardchoille> r00t_: it's the panel
[06:41] <ardchoille> r00t_: if kicker isn't running: dcop kicker default restart
[06:42] <TeraDyne> Maybe I should hop into #ubuntu and ask them to give the bot back to us...
[06:43] <TeraDyne> err... #ubuntu-devel
[06:43] <r00t_> ardchoille: when i do that the k-menu pops up for s split second and disapeers
[06:43] <r00t_> kilrae: theres no menu,not that the k button is missing its the whole menu bar
[06:43] <jhutchins_lt> TeraDyne: done.
[06:43] <r00t_> ardchoille: i uninstalled kicker and reinstalled it also that didint work
[06:44] <ardchoille> r00t_: Right, kicker is messing up somehow, which is what I suspected
[06:44] <TeraDyne> jhutchins_lt: ?
[06:44] <r00t_> ardchoille: anything i can try?or an alternate menu ?
[06:45] <login_> Hi guys , i have a question for the developers, I am making an ubuntu deriative but i came into troubles when i compiled my own kernel . My pc needs to do acpi=off to boot but ounce i boot , no usb slots are detected . This happens on every other OS except ubuntu , I wanted to ask what patches are you added t othe kernel or what did you do to it to make it not have to do acpi=off or make it detect my usb 2.0 slots
[06:45] <r00t_> wait superkaramba has something like a menu right?
[06:45] <ardchoille> r00t_: You can put the apps menu in the desktop right-click menu until you get the kicker problem sorted
[06:46] <ardchoille> r00t_: kcontrol: Desktop > Behavior and look in the Mouse Button Actions section
[06:46] <ardchoille> But, I don't know how to fix the kicker problem
[06:47] <ardchoille> Actually, my kicker isn't even running, I don't use it.
[06:49] <jhutchins_lt> login_: 1) We very rarely get developers here.  2) Even the devel echos are dead this morning, so the devels are probably busy elsewhere.
[06:50] <jhutchins_lt> login_: You're probably going to do a lot better on the devel forums/mailing lists with a question like that.
[06:51] <r00t_> ardchoille: thanks got the mouse/menu thing setup,but what does kicker do exactly?
[06:51] <r00t_> !kicker
[06:52] <TeraDyne> r00t_: No bot.
[06:52] <r00t_> ! :(
[06:52] <r00t_> TeraDyne: why?
[06:52] <r00t_> upgradeing his circuts?
[06:53] <TeraDyne> r00t_: No idea. It's only in the *-devel channels right now.
[06:53] <TeraDyne> r00t_: Even the guys in #ubuntu are without the bot.
[06:53] <ardchoille> r00t_: kicker is the panel, it holds the kmenu, applets, etc
[06:54] <TeraDyne> fdoving: thanks
[06:54] <fdoving> you're welcome.
[06:54] <r00t_> anyone know where streamtuner saves ripped files?
[06:54] <ardchoille> The fact that ubotu is only in the devel channels leads me to believe that the bot is undergoing maintenance or upgrade
[06:55] <fdoving> ardchoille: no, it's not authenticated to nickserv properly, thus reaches the channel limit. when it's logged in, it's allowed to be in loads of channels.
[06:55] <Soul> does anyone know how to set a veoh channel in democracy player
[06:56] <r00t_> anyone ever use granular OS?
[06:56] <ardchoille> fdoving: Ah, yes, I see.. he isn't id'd
[06:57] <sdlnxgk> who is running in SLI mode???
[06:57] <sdlnxgk> !sli
[06:57] <sdlnxgk> hmmmm bot is still  down
[06:57] <r00t_> whats sli?
[06:57] <Soul> does anyone know how to set a veoh as a channel in democracy player
[06:58] <r00t_> SLI = Sexy Linux user Inspector?
 Sorry, I don't know anything about sli - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cg
[06:59] <TeraDyne> As they said on The GNU\Linux User Show: Linux ISO = an Incredibly Stupid Operator of Linux. XD
[06:59] <TeraDyne> ardchoille: Nice.
[07:00] <ardchoille> :)
[07:02] <sdlnxgk> !sli
[07:02] <sdlnxgk> where is the bot when you need it
[07:02] <sdlnxgk> lol
 Sorry, I don't know anything about sli - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cg
[07:02] <sdlnxgk> lol
[07:04] <TeraDyne> ardchoille: You missed an "i" at the end of the url...
[07:04] <ardchoille> s/cg/cgi/
[07:04] <ubunturos> ardchoille: and Konqueror returned a 404 ;)
[07:04] <ardchoille> ubunturos: due to the missing i
[07:04] <ubunturos> ardchoille: yes :)
[07:06] <germanjew> like eg. hardware appears in /dev where does modems appear?
[07:07] <jhutchins_lt> k, ops have been notified about the bot but nothing can be done right now.
[07:07] <germanjew> i've got a dell latitude d620, i'm bit sure what my modem dev is
[07:08] <jhutchins_lt> germanjew: Modems are generally /dev/ttys#
[07:08] <jhutchins_lt> germanjew: Even if they're soft modems or usb, they need to emulate a serial port, which is how you talk to them,
[07:09] <germanjew> jhutchins_lt: its a internal modem it uses a simcard to connect
[07:10] <germanjew> jhutchins_lt: there is 17 ttys devs should i just go though all of em?
[07:11] <jhutchins_lt> germanjew: Well, that would be one approach.
[07:11] <jhutchins_lt> germanjew: It would logically attach to the first one available, but sometimes there are other factors.
[07:11] <jhutchins_lt> germanjew: You might find information on what it is and what it think it's doing in /var/log/messages or dmesg.
[07:12] <jhutchins_lt> Also googling for the specific card/chipset and linux would probably tell you if there is a driver needed to get it to work.
[07:13] <jhutchins_lt> germanjew: minicom is a pretty common tool to mess with serial port stuff, but there are others as well.
[07:13] <jhutchins_lt> germanjew: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[07:19] <MarcC> can somebody tell me how to install this in Kubuntu?
[07:19] <MarcC> http://wiki.tcl.tk/13404
[07:20] <nalioth> !bot
[07:20] <ubot3> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:22] <jhutchins_lt> !find tkgamepack
[07:22] <ubot3> Package/file tkgamepack does not exist in edgy
[07:22] <TeraDyne> O_O;
[07:22] <TeraDyne> old bot...
[07:22] <jhutchins_lt> MarcC: I think you'll find a lot of the games are available in various *buntu packages, but not that particular bundle.
[07:22] <MarcC> dang, I'm addicted to that Collapse game! :'-/
[07:23] <jhutchins_lt> !find collapse
[07:23] <ubot3> File collapse found in pork, r-cran-nlme
[07:23] <jhutchins_lt> !info pork
[07:23] <ubot3> pork: Console-based AOL Instant Messenger & IRC client. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (edgy), package size 254 kB, installed size 1648 kB
[07:23] <jhutchins_lt> !info r-cran-nlme
[07:23] <ubot3> r-cran-nlme: GNU R package for (non-)linear mixed effects models. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.74-1 (edgy), package size 1172 kB, installed size 6244 kB
[07:23] <MarcC> lol
[07:24] <MarcC> maybe I'll look on softpedia
[07:24] <jhutchins_lt> !build | MarcC: This is about installing from tar.gz (tarballs).
[07:24] <ubot3> MarcC: This is about installing from tar.gz (tarballs).: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:24] <germanjew> thanks for your help jhutchins_lt
[07:24] <jhutchins_lt> germanjew: Did you get anywhere with it?
[07:24] <MarcC> jhutchins, thanks...I'll see where I can get.
[07:25] <MarcC> is there a way to convert dotpups from Puppy Linux to .debs?
[07:25] <germanjew> jhutchins_lt: no, got some thing to eat ;p
[07:25] <sdlnxgk> !info sli
[07:25] <ubot3> Package sli does not exist in edgy
[07:25] <sdlnxgk> !info Fiesty SLi
[07:25] <ubot3> Package fiesty does not exist in edgy
[07:25] <jhutchins_lt> sdlnxgk: What's an sli?
[07:26] <tino097> how to show desktop icons, e.g my computer ?
[07:26] <sdlnxgk> jhutchins, SLI mode is here your running two video cards with on monitor
[07:26] <sdlnxgk> jhutchins, you also have to have a mobo that supports sli mode
[07:26] <MarcC> yesssssss
[07:26] <jhutchins_lt> tino097: Right click, create new link, have it point to ~/
[07:27] <MarcC> you can extract dotpups with Ark!
[07:27] <sdlnxgk> can't figure out where to type the option for SLI mode in my xorg.config  file
[07:27] <MarcC> got the game from here and ran the game file inside
[07:27] <MarcC> http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=14618#14618
[07:27] <MarcC> it worked! :D
[07:28] <fred1599> hello
[07:28] <fred1599> you received me?
[07:28] <MarcC> <robot voice> hello
[07:28] <fred1599> yes
[07:28] <fred1599> goof
[07:29] <fred1599> good
[07:29] <MarcC> <robot voice> am receiving you
[07:29] <fred1599> yes thank
[07:29] <MarcC> no problem fred1599
[07:29] <fred1599> it's the first time, that i use irc
[07:30] <MarcC> fred1599: welcome
[07:30] <fred1599> thanks
[07:30] <tino097> jhutchins_lt: thanks
[07:30] <fred1599> i'm french and you?
[07:30] <MarcC> fred1599: ami
[07:30] <MarcC> btw fred1599, there is also #kubuntu-fr I think.
[07:31] <tameekawhite> has anyone done anything with unionfs and ubuntu
[07:31] <fred1599> des personnes parlent-elles franais?
[07:32] <fred1599> speak french?
[07:32] <fred1599> irc ubuntu french?
[07:32] <MarcC> fred1599: joinez #kubuntu-fr :)
[07:32] <fred1599> thks
[07:32] <fred1599> :)
[07:39] <MarcC> is there a bluetooth client for Kubuntu?
[07:39] <MarcC> !bluetooth
[07:39] <ubot3> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[07:42] <family> whenever I try to play a video in kaffeine, the video is messed up.. it has a bunch of random lines and stuff.. any ideas?
[07:42] <TeraDyne> family: it might be that the video is damaged.  Might want to submit a bug report.
[07:42] <TeraDyne> Wow. Server problems...
[07:43] <MarcC> family: just curious - what other players did you try?
[07:44] <family> MarcC: I tried VLC and mplayer.. I'm trying Totem with gstreamer right now..
[07:44] <MarcC> family: try xine
[07:44] <family> MarcC: totem/gstreamer works fine.. I think it's an xine problem
[07:45] <MarcC> family: see if you can fiddle with the xine preferences...sometimes that helps
[07:45] <family> MarcC: how do I get to the xine prefs?
[07:45] <MarcC> you can choose a different output engine, etc.
[07:45] <MarcC> right-click in xine
[07:45] <MarcC> then you have to enable "advanced" mode or something, I think
[07:45] <Lacrymology> how can i stop new windows from stealing focus?
[07:46] <tzanger> woo, kubuntu
[07:46] <tzanger> now to figure out where the hell the stupid-ass bouncy busy cursor setting is
[07:46] <MarcC> Lacrymology: I read this somewhere: "KDE has the handy "Focus stealing prevention level" slider, that you can crank up to make popups less invasive. Unfortunately, GNOME does not have this. And, for various reasons, I need to use GNOME, not KDE."
[07:47] <MarcC> so it would appear KDE has this feature
[07:47] <family> MarcC: for the record, xine-ui has this problem as well
[07:47] <MarcC> family: good, then it's probably a xine problem...as I said, see if you can change the output method in prefs.
[07:47] <MarcC> try OpenGL, etc.
[07:48] <daoudi5> hello
[07:48] <TeraDyne> tzanger: In the KMenu, edit the menu and turn off the "Enable Lauch Feedback" option for each item.
[07:48] <jkmz52> Is there a quick way to find out my current kernel version form the terminal?
[07:48] <TeraDyne> jkmz52: "uname -a"
[07:48] <family> MarcC: I can't find the place to choose the experience level
[07:48] <tzanger> aha yes lkmenu
[07:49] <MarcC> family: it's in there...(i don't have xine-ui installed atm) but you'll find it...keep looking and perhaps resize the window
[07:49] <Rockj> I seem to loose network connection each time my laptopscreen goes black (after inactivity), why is that?
[07:49] <family> MarcC: I found it
[07:49] <jkmz52> thanks
[07:49] <r00t_> so i have kubuntu installed on my usb drive,is there anyway i can transfer it to my laptop?
[07:49] <Rockj> is it knetworkmanager's fault?
[07:50] <MarcC> r00t_: I would just copy the home dir and install Kubuntu as normal on the laptop
[07:50] <MarcC> but I'm a newb at such things
[07:50] <MarcC> at least your kde settings will be the same, anyway
[07:51] <r00t_> MarcC: any other way?i dont have a install cd
[07:52] <daoudi5> place how to translate my kubuntu 7.04 into french language
[07:52] <MarcC> r00t_: well, you're connected to the network, so there's that way, but I don't know how to transfer the entire system over
[07:52] <daoudi5> ?
[07:52] <MarcC> daoudi5: /join #kubuntu-fr
[07:53] <family> MarcC: changing the OpenGL renderer to Image_Pipeline worked. thanks :)
[07:53] <ekim|irc-> Hi
[07:53] <MarcC> family: great :)
[07:53] <daoudi5> how to join kubuntu-fr
[07:53] <ekim|irc-> Has anone tried to resize a compressed ntfs partition in the installer ?
[07:53] <daoudi5> ?
[07:54] <MarcC> daoudi5: inputez "/join #kubuntu-fr"
[07:54] <MarcC> lol, inputez :D
[07:55] <Rockj> is there any setting anywhere in ubuntu which makes it deactivate network connection after idle time?
[07:56] <tzanger> where do I configure the launch notification?  I like luanch notification, I just don want the bouncy cursor
[07:56] <MarcC> daoudi5: entrer la commande /join #kubuntu-fr
[07:56] <MarcC> ah, he made it
[07:58] <TeraDyne> tzanger: Alt + F2 and use "kcontrol" as the command. Search for "launch feedback". It'll be in the results, underneath the Keywors box on the left side.
[07:59] <tzanger> TeraDyne: aha
[07:59] <TeraDyne> tzanger: Choose "No Busy Cursor" in the dropdown box to turn it of.
[07:59] <tzanger> the system settings in the main menu isn the full set
[07:59] <TeraDyne> off*
[07:59] <tzanger> yes I am a longtime kde user, but this generalized setup was throwing me
[07:59] <tzanger> thanks!
[08:00] <TeraDyne> tzanger: Many of us have changed our "System Settings" entry to point to "kcontrol".
[08:00] <tzanger> TeraDyne: sounds like a good idea to me!
[08:00] <daoudi5> please is encarta version for kubuntu?
[08:01] <rjune> encarta? the closest thing to encarto for kubuntu is http://wikipedia.com
[08:01] <rjune> gah, http://wikipedia.org
[08:02] <tzanger> hmm, where do I adjust the keyboard lahyout (not in kde, system-wide) ? my apostrophe isn apostropheing very well
[08:04] <pyrotix_> just use single quotes instead :)
[08:04] <daoudi5> ok
[08:04] <daoudi5> thanks
[08:04] <jhutchins> daoudi5: http://encarta.msn.com/artcenter_/browse.html
[08:04] <daoudi5> but for windows there are encarta which not wikipedia
[08:05] <jhutchins> daoudi5: I don't know of any locally-installable encyclopaedias for linux.  Some of the windows ones work under wine.
[08:06] <daoudi5> ok
[08:07] <tzanger> I need to change the system-wide keyboard layout from us-intl
[08:08] <tzanger> hmm dpkg-reconfigure console-data isn right for kubuntu
[08:09] <Ulrieke> Hallo, ich benutze Kopete und htte da mal eine Frage, kennt sich damit jemand aus?
[08:09] <jhutchins> Ulrieke: Mein deutsch is nicht genau.
[08:09] <jhutchins> !de | Ulrieke
[08:09] <ubot3> Ulrieke: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:10] <Ulrieke> ok
[08:10] <Ulrieke> no problem
[08:10] <tzanger> console-setup for kubuntu
[08:10] <tzanger> hopefully that works better
[08:10] <fatihciroglu> hi , which key-combo must i use for desktop-change ?
[08:11] <Ulrieke> i use kopete and i want to change the style of the mesages
[08:11] <jhutchins> tzanger: Linuix is a bit schizophrenic about whether it's a centrally configured multi-user system or a GUI configured single-user system.
[08:11] <tzanger> :-)
[08:12] <tzanger> yes, I no newbie to linux, just to debian nad kubuntu :-)
[08:13] <ardchoille> fatihciroglu: You can set that up in kcontrol
[08:13] <ardchoille> kcontrol > Region > Keyboard Shortcuts
[08:14] <fatihciroglu> ardchoille: thanks man. i m using ubuntu now. how can i change it in ubuntu ?
[08:14] <vzduch> Ulrieke: it's been a while, but iirc it's in the options.. Appearance or so, it has a number of preconfigured styles to choose from
[08:14] <jhutchins> ardchoille: Tjeu
[08:14] <ardchoille> fatihciroglu: Don't know, I don't use gnome. perhaps ask in #ubuntu
[08:14] <jhutchins> ardchoille: Sorry: They'd probably know in #ubuntu.
[08:16] <gmh33> how do I change the system clock in KDE from reading 24-hour format, to 12-hour
[08:16] <gmh33> ?
[08:16] <fatihciroglu> ardchoille: thanks for support man. good evenings
[08:16] <ardchoille> fatihciroglu: You're welcome :)
[08:17] <gmh33> nvm :)
[08:17] <ardchoille> gmh33: right click the clock, choose Date & Time Format, go to the Times & Dates tab, look at the Time Format box
[08:19] <MarcC> how can I change the icon for a generic executable without changing *all* executables to have that icon?
[08:20] <ardchoille> MarcC: In the kmenu?
[08:20] <MarcC> ardchoille: desktop
[08:20] <javierf> hi there, I'm trying to use twinkle to talk using voip and it works great but microphone volume is too low... I've but it as high as possible in kmix but it doesn't have enough volume. Is there any other way to increase it
[08:20] <ardchoille> Hmm.. never ran into that
[08:21] <tzanger> javierf: check your alsa settings to see if it got any attenuation or other silliness
[08:21] <MarcC> ardchoille: it seems to work at first, but then suddenly something refreshes and all executables pick up the same icon
[08:21] <fatihciroglu> ardchoille: control + alt + arrow keys  ^^
[08:21] <tzanger> man there a lot ot upgrade off of 7.04
[08:22] <sdlnxgk> hmmmm wierd that time install SLI by default
[08:22] <ardchoille> fatihciroglu: :)
[08:22] <sdlnxgk> oh well it's up and running perfect :)
[08:22] <javierf> tzanger: i compiled last alsa version and using alsa mixer microphone seem to be at max
[08:22] <tzanger> hmm
[08:22] <tzanger> maybe something with the hardware then, mine seems to work well
[08:22] <peder_> When I try to install packages with adept or apt-get, I can't connect to the repositories!
[08:23] <javierf> tzanger: Yes i supouse it is hardware problem but now I can't change it and i wonder if it is possible to configure som kind of software extra gain
[08:23] <ardchoille> peder_: Some of the repos were having issues today
[08:24] <tzanger> javierf: sure you can amplify it in software, but that more work :-)
[08:24] <vzduch> and Freenode has issues too today
[08:24] <ardchoille> Yeah routing issues
[08:24] <javierf> tzanger: any idea how to start?
[08:25] <ardchoille> vzduch: Not sure it's just freenode: http://www.internetpulse.com/
[08:25] <tzanger> javierf: not at the moment, no
[08:26] <tzanger> hmm, is there a standard way to get rid of the se the side of the touchpad and get a scrollwheel"with kubuntu?
[08:26] <javierf> tzanger: ok thanks ;)
[08:27] <K`zan> I had to reinstall and lost a dictionary applet you can put in the panel, I can't seem to find it now, any help, pointers or suggestions MOST welcome!
[08:27] <hero> just add it again
[08:27] <ardchoille> K`zan: there's a dict applet in the Add to Panel dialog
[08:27] <K`zan> If I could find it I sure would.
[08:28] <hero> add applet to panel...
[08:28] <hero> and then it's in the applet list
[08:28] <K`zan> ardchoille: That is where I thought I found it, but it isn't there since the reinstall :-(.
[08:28] <ardchoille> hero: Is that a default applet? Or did he install something that included it?
[08:28] <hero> i think it's a default applet
[08:28] <hero> let me check
[08:28] <K`zan> ardchoille: It was in the applet list, I'm almost positive, but not showing in the fresh install :-(.
[08:29] <dhq> can some one help me with grub
[08:29] <ardchoille> K`zan: That makes me think you installed something that included it
[08:29] <hero> or maybe not :\
[08:29] <ardchoille> K`zan: Same set of apps installed now as before?
[08:29] <K`zan> Most of them, yes
[08:29] <K`zan> Looking at the add applet dialog now.
[08:29] <ardchoille> K`zan: kdeutils?
[08:30] <hero> it's not in the default applets. sorry about that.
[08:30] <ardchoille> kdeutils is the only thing I can think of
[08:30] <K`zan> I don't remember installing anything special, I just picked it out of the applets.  Will verify kdeutils are installed, just a sec.
[08:30] <hero> kdict?
[08:30] <ardchoille> that may be it
[08:30] <ardchoille> K`zan: apt-cache policy kdict
[08:31] <K`zan> It wasn't installed, installing now, thanks VERY much.  I'm a lousy speller sometimes and that thing sure helps!
[08:31] <peder_> Does Opera "support" KDE (use KDE libraries)?
[08:31] <dhq> hello guys i am on a kubuntu live cd i need to restore my grub kubuntu is installed on /dev/hda7 so please help me out
[08:31] <ardchoille> !grub
[08:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:31] <hero> K`zan: good luck with that. sorry if i confused you at first
[08:31] <hero> hey, is anyone having problems getting apt-get updates from security.ubuntu.com?
[08:32] <ardchoille> hero: that repo has had issues today
[08:32] <K`zan> hero: No problem, I'm pretty confused most of the time, but I stick with it ;-) LOL!
[08:32] <javierf> dhq: check super grub cd it is very easy to recover grub
[08:32] <hero> ardchoille: can you skip it without dinking with sources.list?
[08:32] <hero> er
[08:32] <hero> without
[08:32] <hero> yeah :P
[08:32] <K`zan> Seems to have installed OK, checking now.
[08:32] <hero> cool
[08:32] <ardchoille> hero: You can but security updates are important
[08:33] <ardchoille> So check back often
[08:33] <dhq> javierf, i am on a dialup connection it will take me ages to download it
[08:33] <hero> wonder why it's down
[08:33] <K`zan> Nope, still not in applets, may have to restart
[08:33] <hero> would it be safe to upgrade packages w/o verifying in this case?
[08:33] <ardchoille> K`zan: No, a restart isn't necessary unless you're doing kernel/grub work
[08:33] <K`zan> I should get secutiry updates when they become available, process runs to do it.
[08:34] <K`zan> ardchoille: OK, sigh, still not there, I may have to get the dead tree version out ;-).
[08:34] <hero> K`zan: you might logout/login though
[08:34] <ardchoille> K`zan: Did you install kdict?
[08:34] <K`zan> checking...
[08:34] <K`zan> No, installing now.
[08:34] <javierf> dhq: no way.. check the how to
[08:35] <K`zan> WOnder what I did wrong on the reinstall to miss that?!?
[08:35] <ardchoille> K`zan: I think it's kdict
[08:35] <dhq> !grub
[08:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:35] <ardchoille> fdoving: Thank you :)
[08:35] <K`zan> ardchoille: That was it, thank you very VERY much!
[08:35] <hero> yay!
[08:35] <ardchoille> K`zan: Thank hero, it was his idea :)
[08:36] <dhq> fdoving, are you familiar with grub
[08:36] <hero> thank google
[08:36] <ardchoille> hahaha
[08:36] <hero> it was its idea
[08:36] <K`zan> Sometimes google can be your friend if you start after page 10 missing all the paid placements :-/.
[08:36] <fdoving> dhq: depends on your problem, someone here probably is. i'm somewhat busy at the moment.
[08:36] <dhq> fdoving, ok :(
[08:36] <ardchoille> K`zan: and http://www.google.com/linux  can be better at times
[08:37] <hero> there is also a channel called #grub
[08:39] <BluesKaj> K`zan, google-linux works well , most of the time
[08:44] <K`zan> BluesKaj: Not so much, it seems more like a products catalog anymore than an information resource.  I have found that if you skip the first (about?) 10 pages to get past paid placement stuff that it does do a lot better.  Sometimes it depends on what you are looking for and how well you can feed the engine.
[08:44] <family> is there any way to make qemu boot my NTFS partition instead of a hard drive image file?
[08:45] <nosrednaekim> family: no
[08:46] <surgy> what is the package name to enable dvd suport? libdvd?
[08:47] <BluesKaj> libdvdcss2
[08:51] <arun_> is there any way to install .dmg files in ubuntu?
[08:52] <arun_> (might be a stupid question, just wanted to ask)
[08:52] <BluesKaj> dmg ?
[08:53] <arun_> OS X software packages
[08:53] <nosrednaekim> I don't think so.
[08:53] <nosrednaekim> what are you trying to install?
[08:53] <arun_> i was wondering if there was some way to install those on ubuntu, since both OSes are unix based
[08:53] <arun_> again, might be a stupid question, but i was bored and just wondering
[08:54] <arun_> software like coda, etc
[08:54] <nosrednaekim> No I don't think so.
[08:54] <nosrednaekim> But if you are really bored and will be for the rest of the year.,... you can try making something to do so;)
[08:55] <arun_> haha no, i dont think so
[08:56] <nosrednaekim> just a suggestion...
[08:57] <arun_> thanks
[08:57] <k7> hello
[08:58] <k7> can some1 help me?
[08:58] <arun_> hey k7
[08:58] <BluesKaj> !ask
[08:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:58] <k7> i have ubuntu
[08:59] <k7> and i want change teh resolution of monitor from 1024x768 to 1280x800
[08:59] <nosrednaekim> k7: ok, do you have an intel graphics card?
[08:59] <arun_> go to system settings
[09:00] <k7> yes intel gma 945
[09:01] <nosrednaekim> k7: ok, install "915resolution"
[09:02] <fdoving> k7: you need to enable the universe repository and get the 915resolution package.
[09:02] <nosrednaekim> !resolution
[09:02] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:02] <k7> i'm not an expert just a moment
[09:02] <k7> !resolution
[09:02] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:05] <arun_> which text editors/IDEs do you guys prefer?
[09:05] <ardchoille> vim for almost everything
[09:05] <ardchoille> kate is quite nice too
[09:06] <fdoving> vim and kdevelop here
[09:07] <arun_> I've been using kate, it's quite nice. It's not as good as this other app i used to use in Windows called Notepad2
[09:07] <arun_> http://www.flos-freeware.ch/notepad2.html
[09:08] <arun_> I was wondering if there was something better than kate
[09:08] <hero> i use kwrite
[09:08] <arun_> to write code?
[09:08] <hero> well, no
[09:08] <BluesKaj> or knotes
[09:09] <Rockj> anyone know what causes my network interface to give up its ip-lease and iwconfig forgets what essid it was connected to even. happends if I close my laptop lid or idle and monitor goes to "black" (after idle)
[09:09] <xoate0100> hello
[09:10] <lucas-r2d2> hi, i've got a little problem while setting up geant4. it tells me that i need "OpenGLXM", but i don't know where to find that. is there any package?
[09:11] <zolar> how do you change your default from gdm to kdm?
[09:13] <ardchoille> !display
[09:13] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:13] <ardchoille> That wasn't it
[09:13] <ardchoille> !dm
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <xoate0100> so.....how would i go to a different channel?
[09:14] <ardchoille> /join #channel_name
[09:14] <xoate0100> aha
[09:14] <xoate0100> ok good wheres that wonderful list to choose from?
[09:15] <ardchoille> a list of static channels?
[09:16] <xoate0100> well how do I know what name to put in
[09:16] <ardchoille> They're usually by project name, #ubuntu, #kubuntu,#linux, etc
[09:16] <xoate0100> oic
[09:16] <xoate0100> but all the ones on this server are going to be like that
[09:16] <ardchoille> but you can make a #xoate0100  simply by joining that channel
[09:17] <xoate0100> ha cool
[09:17] <ardchoille> unregistered channels come and go daily, which is why a channel list wouldn't be any good after an hour or so
[09:17] <Rockj> what is "avahi-autoipd" ?
[09:18] <ardchoille> Rockj: Looks like something used by the avahi daemon
[09:18] <xoate0100> ok that makes sense..
[09:19] <Rockj> but WHAT is it? what does it do?
[09:19] <Rockj> :p
[09:19] <ardchoille> notice xoate0100 If you want to setup and register a channel..  /msh chanserv help register
[09:19] <Rockj> it has a permission denied in my syslog
[09:19] <Rockj> probably what makes my interface drop connection when I close lid or idle
[09:20] <arun_> anyone here use beryl?
[09:20] <ardchoille> autoipd sounds like an automatic IP daemon or some such
[09:21] <xoate0100> hmmm...ok
[09:21] <xoate0100> I'm obviously new at this...lol
[09:22] <ardchoille> xoate0100: http://freenode.net  is your friend :)
[09:23] <arun_> i just installed vim, how do i run it?
[09:23] <jkmz52> Im trying to apt-get packages which I know are on apt and which I have successfully gotten on other computers using apt, but they keep returning E: package couldn't find package, do i need to supdate may local apt repository or something?
[09:23] <jhutchins_lt> xoate0100: You can do /list, but it might flood your connection.
[09:23] <lucas-r2d2> arun: vim file
[09:23] <jhutchins_lt> xoate0100: I think there's a list at http://freenode.org
[09:24] <xoate0100> oh wow...ok
[09:24] <xoate0100> lol it does clog things up a bit
[09:24] <Rockj> btw, with KDE, is there a option for turning off KDE to start up all application you had before reboot?
[09:25] <xoate0100> that helps thats what i was looking for
[09:25] <hero> Rockj: yes, in kcontrol, under session management
[09:25] <jhutchins_lt> Rockj: Well, you can kill all the apps before you log out, and log out instead of killing kde.
[09:25] <jhutchins_lt> Rockj: There might be something in kcontrol that says "start with blank session" or "don't save session".
[09:26] <jhutchins_lt> Rockj: Yeah, what hero said.
[09:26] <Rockj> there was :)
[09:26] <jhutchins_lt> lag
[09:26] <Rockj> I enabled   start up manually saved session , guess I can save sessions if I want, and then it boots up that
[09:26] <xoate0100> thanks for your help
[09:26] <Rockj> mhm :)
[09:27] <hero> no prob! cool, i actually helped someone.
[09:27] <Rockj> im off for reboot to test, and see if my network troubles is better when I've turned of that stupid avahi daemon
[09:27] <ccoffey> is it possible to install onto fakeraid and lvm at the same time, do you think?
[09:37] <Rockj> hmf, what is it that makes my wireless disable when I close my lid? I dont get it
[09:37] <Rockj> and after idle timeout
[09:37] <Rockj> grr
[09:37] <tzanger> hmm
[09:37] <tzanger> is there a kubuntu-approved or debian-approved way to edit your xorg.conf?
[09:40] <Lynoure> tzanger: any text editor will do
[09:40] <shub112004> hi there
[09:40] <Lynoure> tzanger: the ones that do not wrap lines without being told are usually best for configuration files
[09:40] <shub112004> any ont there for helping me out to deal wit hgrub
[09:41] <ardchoille> tzanger: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:42] <ardchoille> tzanger: But, as Lynoure said, you can do it with a text editor too.. just make sure to restart xorg when done editing
[09:44] <tzanger> ardchoille: *nods* I am used to the text editor way, just didn want ot step on any configuration tools toes
[09:44] <tzanger> that my biggest nemesis with working with debian :-)
[09:45] <phoenix_> hi all
[09:46] <Rockj> how can I check what closing the lid on my laptop triggers?
[09:47] <ardchoille> Rockj: Kinda like testing to see if the refrigerator light really goes out when you close the door? lol
[09:49] <Rockj> ardchoille: I wanna know what changes it does to my laptop, because its quite odd that it DISABLES my network connection. it also does it on idle :(
[09:49] <Rockj> which is hillarious.
[09:51] <BluesKaj> I always thought that closing a laptop shuts 'everything' down
[09:51] <Rockj> "so I'm more looking for the secret button in the refrigerator which makes the light go off when you close the door. "
[09:51] <tzanger> 25MB/sec over usb... not too shabby
[09:51] <tzanger> it probably the 5400 rpm drive limiting it
[09:51] <Rockj> BluesKaj: that depends on your configuration. You can make it do nothing, lock screen, goto hibernation and I think power off too. I have do nothing.
[09:51] <Rockj> which is default
[09:52] <Rockj> hum, im trying to close power manager to see if connection gets dropped again. brb
[09:52] <BluesKaj> default ? really? or did you set it as default ?
[09:52] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Depends on the laptop.
[09:53] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Mostly it just sends a signal to the apci
[09:53] <BluesKaj> daughter's new toshiba shuts down when the lid goes down...of course she runs windows
[09:54] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: It should suspend or hibernate - probably not set up right.
[09:54] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: There should be a toshiba utility to configure it.
[09:55] <MURDERNERDCLASSM> is anyone gonna help me?
[09:55] <BluesKaj> it doesn't matter it's not used for business where she amy have to hide stuff by closing the lid
[09:56] <MURDERNERDCLASSM> i need help getting my other kubuntu machine
[09:56] <MURDERNERDCLASSM> online
[09:57] <jhutchins> MURDERNERDCLASSM: No, nobody's going to help you, because you haven't told anybody what the problem is.
[09:57] <MURDERNERDCLASSM> i need help getting my 35th computer online
[09:58] <BluesKaj> !ask | MURDERNERDCLASSM
[09:58] <ubotu> MURDERNERDCLASSM: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:58] <jhutchins> Hopeless.
[09:58] <jhutchins> I need to go get a couple of spindle bearings.
[10:00] <drowningB> i have cable internet service
[10:00] <BluesKaj> yeah, jhutchins ..and i have absolutely no experience with ethernet probs , cuz i havent had any yet (knocks on wood)
[10:00] <Daisuke_Ido> that screamed windows user.
[10:01] <Daisuke_Ido> drowningB: your continually switching nicks isn't helping either.
[10:01] <drowningB> how do you make konqueror send and recieve traffic from your cable modem?
[10:01] <waylandbill__> screaming windows user sounds more like it. :-D
[10:02] <BluesKaj> konqueror?
[10:02] <Daisuke_Ido> you show it how and every time it does, you give it a treat
[10:02] <drowningB> when i try and look at configuring the connection manualy, i see that the gateway address is blank
[10:02] <waylandbill__> BluesKaj: I haven't had any ethernet problems since I went to 802.11g.
[10:02] <drowningB> im a screaming windows user, yeah
[10:03] <family> are there any good keyloggers for Linux?
[10:03] <BluesKaj> waylandbill__, I'm behind a seimens router , using cat5 on ethernet connection
[10:03] <Rockj> oki , I'm back. even when I closed the powermanager, it still closes the network connection
[10:04] <tzanger> family: cat /proc/dev/input/xxx?  :-)
[10:04] <BluesKaj> drowningB, are trying to surf the net ,  describe what happens , at least
[10:04] <waylandbill__> BluesKaj: nothing wrong with that. I'm out in the country and when a mouse chewed a wire, I decided the 2 desktops and 1 laptop can all use wireless. :-)
[10:05] <Rockj> trying to shutdown ACPI to see if that helps
[10:05] <waylandbill__> BluesKaj: don't worry... it's just  a different set of challenges.
[10:05] <drowningB> sometimes the network connection comes up on the icon tray, and when i try to configure my internet connection i see that the gateway address is missing
[10:05] <drowningB> and in general i just cant recieve any web pages or use adept
[10:06] <Daisuke_Ido> are you the only computer connected to the modem?
[10:06] <Daisuke_Ido> or going through a router?
[10:06] <drowningB> its just a modem to a computer
[10:06] <waylandbill__> drowningB: of course. you need a gateway. if the router is flawed in it's dhcp, then set the address static.
[10:06] <drowningB> one computer
[10:06] <BluesKaj> yeah waylandbill__ I'm in a small town which has decent DSL and cable internet , so i stayed wired ...wireless is nice and I have the capability but haven't bothered
[10:07] <Daisuke_Ido> this shouldn't be a problem then :\
[10:07] <drowningB> ok im going to go research dhcp
[10:07] <Daisuke_Ido> your modem should assign a dhcp address automatically
[10:07] <Daisuke_Ido> receive*
[10:07] <BluesKaj> drowningB, click on the knetwork manager
[10:08] <tzanger> is there a way to queue up a package install?
[10:08] <tzanger> i.e. adept is busy updating shit so I can install any packages at the moment
[10:08] <waylandbill__> the dhcp protocol requires a gateway being assigned. It doesn't necessarily need to be the dhcp server, but many times is on a lan.
[10:08] <tzanger> but can I say dd this to your pile of things ot do"type of thing?
[10:09] <Daisuke_Ido> tzanger: you wait, there's no queueing.  one instance at a time, unfortunately
[10:09] <waylandbill__> tzanger: if you used aptitude you could queue up things. when you ctrl-c out and go back in, it will remember what it was doing. (When using the ncurses interface)
[10:09] <tzanger> Daisuke_Ido: ok
[10:09] <tzanger> aptitude drives me crazy
[10:10] <waylandbill__> aptitude is the bomb IMHO
[10:10] <arun_> i've heard ubuntu isn't very good with wireless connections
[10:10] <family> tzanger: okay, I've got it saving the input now, but how do I decode it? It's all meaningless bytes.. I need it to be in ASCII
[10:10] <waylandbill__> arun_: maybe is dependent on the wireless card.
[10:10] <tzanger> family: I guessing that not for me
[10:10] <Daisuke_Ido> arun_: there are a few chipsets that aren't well supported, but for the most part, quite lovely
[10:11] <vzduch> tzanger: don't use accents as apostrophe :)
[10:11] <arun_> Daisuke_Ido: can you elaborate on which ones aren't supported? I am considering getting a laptop..
[10:11] <Daisuke_Ido> couldn't tell you right off
[10:11] <waylandbill__> tzanger: if you cancel even in adept, the partial download is still retained, so you can actually stop the download, select more packages and go and it will continue the partials.
[10:11] <Daisuke_Ido> arun_: i never thought i'd recommend this, but have you considered an ubuntu dell?
[10:12] <arun_> hah, nope
[10:12] <tzanger> waylandbill__: didn know that
[10:13] <waylandbill__> tzanger: yup. they are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
[10:13] <Daisuke_Ido> arun_: just saying...  they're tested with ubuntu so you know the hardware's gonna work out of the box
[10:14] <arun_> Daisuke_Ido: I run a dual-boot system, so I'd like to install things myself
[10:14] <arun_> Is Dell and HP hardware more or less supported?
[10:15] <Daisuke_Ido> arun_: just because you buy a dell with ubuntu preloaded doesn't mean it has to STAY preloaded
[10:15] <Daisuke_Ido> the hardware will still work.
[10:15] <waylandbill__> Dell makes Linux systems and uses Canocical for support don't they?
[10:15] <Daisuke_Ido> wipe it, install windows, and then set up the dual boot
[10:16] <Daisuke_Ido> waylandbill__: yep
[10:16] <BluesKaj> wonder if Dell will ship with Kubuntu instead of gnome in the near future, cuz we're gonna need a laptop when we travel in March of next yr to taiwan to visit our daughter
[10:16] <arun_> Daisuke_Ido: that seems like a good idea, but I'm in India, and I don't think you get Ubuntu Dells here
[10:16] <waylandbill> changing to kubuntu is only a few hundred MB download on a preinstalled.
[10:17] <BluesKaj> i heard if you try to install kde on the Dell that it voids the warranty
[10:17] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: I don't know about that. I imagine they won't give support on added packages though.
[10:18] <MarcC> kde's just a software package...I can't imagine it voiding any warranty...anyway, I installed kubuntu first thing on my Dell ubuntu laptop
[10:18] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: the same way installing windowblinds on a windows pc voids the warranty :D
[10:19] <Daisuke_Ido> i can't imagine canonical NOT supporting packages from their own main repos
[10:19] <waylandbill> warranty is one thing, support is another. hardware v software.
[10:20] <tzanger> can anyone help me blow away this international keyboard keymap?  I cannot use apostrophe and a few other keys correctly
[10:20] <tzanger> dpkg-reconfigure console-setup has been done but it seems to error out
[10:20] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, the hardware isn't being changed, just a software package that's running on top of it.  in that case, if dell refuses to honor the warranty on that, screw them.
[10:21] <tzanger>  * Saving console font and keymap for next boot...                                                                        /usr/bin/ckbcomp: instead of "#Added for pc105 compatibility<LSGT>=94;<TLDE>=49;" in evdev expected };.
[10:21] <tzanger> is the error it throws out
[10:22] <vadim_> hi 2 all :)
[10:22] <tzanger> aha
[10:22] <tzanger> it an X thing
[10:22] <tzanger> not a debian/system thing
[10:23] <tzanger> now I wonder if it is possible to reload/reconfigure the X keyboard without restarting X
[10:25] <vzduch> tzanger: you're still using accents as apostrophes
[10:25] <waylandbill> tzanger: what's debian got to do with it?
[10:26] <tzanger> vzduch: not htat I can ssee
[10:26] <waylandbill> vadim_: what's going on?
[10:26] <waylandbill> tzanger: yes. you're using accent marks.
[10:26] <tzanger> heh
[10:26] <tzanger> waylandbill: I thought it was the system-wide keyboard map
[10:26] <tzanger> but it not, droping to a vt shows it
[10:27] <vadim_> guys, how can i remotely access my computer? i mean, is there in kubuntu something similar to Remote Desktop in Windows?
[10:27] <vzduch> !ssh
[10:27] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:27] <vzduch> !vnc
[10:27] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[10:27] <waylandbill> tzanger: was just wondering how debian falls into the picture.
[10:28] <drif_> which vnc server to use when I want to reach login window? x11vnc stopped working after X mysteriously rebooted itself
[10:28] <waylandbill> vadim_: vnc works if you can get access to 5900 port outside the router (i.e. port forward)
[10:28] <family> how can I find out what my keymap file is stored?
[10:28] <MarcC> vadim_: I use it on my local network to connect to a windows machine...it's pretty easy to use tightVNC with windows, and then type "vnc:/address" in konqueror to get it going.
[10:29] <germanjew> !bot
[10:29] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:29] <vadim_> will VNC let me have a parallel session if there is somebody loged on or it will connect me to the running session?
[10:29] <tzanger> waylandbill: because during the dsetup it asks to get smart about the keyboard config
[10:29] <waylandbill> drif_: login window from the DM? use XDMCP capability of KDM.
[10:29] <germanjew> !ssh
[10:29] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:30] <germanjew> what is the ssh server package name?
[10:30] <drif_> waylandbill: in short?
[10:30] <waylandbill> tzanger: but I'm wondering about kubuntu or debian. dsetup isn't in the kubuntu install.
[10:30] <dcorbin_work> I'm trying to get my kmail to send mail throw my localhost/postfix SMTP and relay everything.  As things stand, kmail seems to just hang trying to send it.  Ideas?
[10:31] <drif_> waylandbill: I know I could dig the net for that stuff - but I'm visiting my gf for this week and not really able to 'waste' time there - just want to get things back running again and forget it for rest of the week
[10:31] <MarcC> vadim_: I'm not sure if you can do that (parallel session)...I just see whatever's on the screen, so if somebody logs out, I see the login screen
[10:31] <waylandbill> drif_: research XDMCP. It's just like windows server's remote desktop. One box runs multiple desktop clients.
[10:32] <tzanger> waylandbill: ?  console-setup is
[10:32] <germanjew> Please insert the disc labeled 'Kubuntu 7.04 _Feisty Fawn_ - Release i386 (20070417)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[10:32] <germanjew> whats up with that???
[10:33] <tzanger> hahaha
[10:33] <drif_> germanjew: you need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:33] <tzanger> germanjew hahahaha
[10:33] <vadim_> MarcC: waylandbill: thx :)
[10:33] <germanjew> lol ;p
[10:33] <waylandbill> drif_: "simple" solution is vnc. Good solution like for classroom computers to connect to server its dmcp.
[10:33] <tzanger> yup
[10:34] <tzanger> vnc is good
[10:34] <drif_> waylandbill: I'm already running x11vnc wihch has worked fine so far
[10:34] <drif_> waylandbill: but somehow the X restarted itself while I've been here and the display :0 is gone..cannot connect anymore
[10:34] <germanjew> so any ideas how my cdrom came in my repostory?
[10:34] <tzanger> germanjew: from the install maybe?
[10:34] <drif_> germanjew: it's there by default
[10:35] <germanjew> lol i've never noticed that, I installed via textbased installer this time though...
[10:35] <drif_> germanjew: just comment out those lines are run 'apt-get update' again
[10:35] <drif_> are=and
[10:35] <germanjew> drif_: ye..
[10:36] <vzduch> I installed from the live CD and I've never seen a repo line for CD or anything
[10:39] <vzduch> only know that from SUSE and Mandrake (back in the days when it still was Mdk)
[10:40] <yeniklasor> With what can I open a chm file?
[10:41] <vzduch> browser, text editor..
[10:42] <vzduch> except it's a Windoze binary chm..
[10:42] <Daisuke_Ido> yeniklasor: xchm
[10:42] <Daisuke_Ido> it's in the repos
[10:42] <Daisuke_Ido> i use it myself for occasional ebooks in chm format
[10:42] <Daisuke_Ido> and he's gone
[10:45] <family> I'm trying Linux Key Logger right now (lkl), but it's not making the file I tell it to make. I'm running it with "sudo lkl -l -k /usr/share/lkl/keymaps/us_km -o keylog.txt"
[10:50] <ubuntu__> saludos a todo
[10:50] <ubuntu__> s
[10:50] <ubuntu__> una pregunta
[10:51] <vzduch> !es | ubuntu__
[10:51] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:51] <ubuntu__> espero que alguien me la pueda reponder
[10:51] <vzduch> ubuntu__: vea arriba
[10:51] <ubuntu__> si he ido a esas paginas
[10:52] <ubuntu__> pero no me resuelven el problema
[10:52] <vzduch> si quieres preguntar algo aqu, en ingles por favor :)
[10:52] <ubuntu__> ok
[10:53] <r00t_> is it possible to use dd to move my os off a usb drive onto my laptops HD? and if so could someone give me a hand so i dont loose everything?i dont have a install cd anymore :( so i dont want to mess this up
[10:54] <vzduch> r00t_: get on the 'net and download the install CD ;)
[10:54] <r00t_> vzduch: no burner
[10:54] <r00t_> vzduch: and i have a ton of custom stuff and had a hell of a time installing
[10:54] <ubuntu__> i have my lap and i like install ubuntu but dont me works video
[10:55] <tzanger> I using vesa right now with the radeon mobile in this t60
[10:55] <tzanger> gonna run with that for a while before trying the binary driver
[10:55] <r00t_> tzanger: which card?im useing xpress 1150 with teh binary
[10:56] <vzduch> r00t_: in theory: 'dd if=/dev/sda1 of=usbkey.img' (assuming your USB drive is plugged in as /dev/sda1 and of course not mounted)
[10:56] <tzanger> r00t_: x1400
[10:56] <r00t_> vzduch: of course its mounted,it what im running off of
[10:57] <vzduch> r00t_: you can't dd a mounted device, to my knowledge
[10:57] <tzanger> vzduch: you can, it just fucks everything up
[10:57] <Nyle> hey there
[10:57] <r00t_> vzduch: ive got another os or two so id go into one of those and type that in and thats it?id have to make a new partition
[10:57] <Nyle> kubuntu doesn't turn on my network card on boot
[10:57] <Nyle> why?
[10:58] <Nyle> I have to sudo ifup eth0 each time i reboot
[10:58] <vzduch> r00t_: no need for a new partition if you have enough space.. the 'of' part saves the image as a file
[10:58] <Nyle> I checked /etc/network/interfaces and I saw eth0 is auto
[10:58] <ubuntu__> ubuntu doesn't works my video ati radeon 200
[10:59] <ubuntu__> nbvmnmn
[10:59] <vzduch> !ati | ubuntu__
[10:59] <ubotu> ubuntu__: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:00] <Tanooki> How do I boot a livecd without starting X?
[11:00] <ubuntu__>  ok
[11:00] <vzduch> Tanooki: by passing an option that tells it not to start X
[11:00] <Tanooki> vzduch: What's the option?
[11:00] <vzduch> not possible w/ *buntu live CDs, to my knowledge
[11:01] <Tanooki> Ok.
[11:01] <Nyle> how do I turn off the kubuntu boosplash
[11:01] <Nyle> I want to use my own image, any ideas?
[11:03] <vzduch> only thing I know is that the bootsplash is stored as a file in /boot.. might be /boot/message, but I don't know exactly.. if you find the right file & replace it w/ something else, it might work
[11:03] <vzduch> (no expert on such questions)
[11:04] <vzduch> I, for one, use none, I turned it off altogether
[11:05] <r00t_> vzduch: what do i do witht the image file after words?
[11:05] <hilary> hey everyone =)
[11:05] <r00t_> just mount it and edit grub?
[11:06] <thinker> good evening
[11:07] <thinker> does anyone have any experience of running a Greenphone SDK on kubuntu? would it install and work "out of the box"?
[11:08] <rojas> hola
[11:08] <vzduch> r00t_: what exactly are you up to?
[11:09] <rojas> espaol
[11:09] <K`zan> english
[11:09] <rojas> no entiendo esto
[11:10] <rojas> alguien me explica
[11:10] <vzduch> !es | rojas
[11:10] <ubotu> rojas: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:10] <K`zan> Thanks, didn't know that :-).
[11:10] <rojas> como
[11:10] <vzduch> rojas: /join #kubuntu-es
[11:11] <vzduch> K`zan: works w/ almost every language :>
[11:11] <K-Ryan> The trick is to know what language they're speaking
[11:11] <vzduch> K-Ryan: mostly unproblematic to find out
[11:12] <K-Ryan> I mix up pt and es kind of
[11:12] <K-Ryan> Even though I speak es...
[11:12] <vzduch> if they're not _very_ short, es and pt are pretty well distinguishable
[11:12] <r00t_> vzduch: i installed my os to a external usb hd,now i want to to move it onto my laptop,i would reinstall but theres a ton of custom stuff/settings and i lack a install cd,also the install proscess took 2 days just to get my xserver running,and 40 hours to figure out how to make my sound card work
[11:12] <K-Ryan> Minor differences the times I've mistaken them
[11:13] <rojas> chaoooooooooooooo
[11:14] <vzduch> r00t_: I never transferred a hdd image to some other place
[11:15] <r00t_> does dd move files or copy them?
[11:15] <vzduch> but if that's what you want, you could try 'dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/hdXY' w/ both partitions not mounted.. adjust devices names if necessary
[11:15] <vzduch> dd neither copies nor moves files, it creates images
[11:16] <vzduch> but, for that matter, it should be sufficient if you just create a blank partition, copy all files and adjust your bootloader accordingly
[11:17] <vzduch> and of course the /boot/grub/menu.lst in the respective installation, it needs to know where it is :)
[11:18] <vzduch> and the /etc/fstab
[11:20] <vzduch> the problem is that you need to copy as root as there are files that are not readable
[11:21] <ninHer> hi all
[11:21] <vzduch> so dd might be easier.. you need to edit some files anyway (/etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst in any case, dunno if I forgot something)
[11:22] <vzduch> what I don't know if you can just put the img on a partition that is not exactly the same size as the old one
[11:28] <r00t_> vzduch: i have an unmounted ext3 on hda8 can i just cp everything there?
[11:29] <vzduch> r00t_: if you copy stuff you need the drives mounted of course
[11:30] <sam123> how do i setup teamspeak to use alsa or enable my microphone for oss?
[11:32] <r00t_> vzduch: how do i mount it to /media/hda8 ? its a ext3 filesystem
[11:33] <r00t_> mount hda8 ext3 /media/hda8/ ?
[11:33] <r00t_> i have the folder made
[11:33] <vzduch> by creating /media/hda8 if it doesn't exist and mounting w/ 'sudo mount -t ext3 -o defaults /dev/hda8 /media/hda8
[11:34] <vzduch> '
[11:36] <sam123> how do i setup teamspeak to use alsa or enable my microphone for oss?
[11:45] <grzechu> hello
[11:45] <pyrotix_> I cancelled an upgrade to feisty halfway through, how do I resume it?
[11:46] <Daisuke_Ido> do a fresh feisty install?
[11:46] <grzechu> pyrotix_: sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:46] <Rockj> pyrotix_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:47] <adenicio> how do i install firefox on kubuntu?
[11:47] <Rockj> adenicio: sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:47] <velle> Is it in someway "wrong" or "illegal" to start KDE applications from Konsole?
[11:48] <MarcC> velle: there can be errors thrown...there are bugs filed for those, but in my experience the apps work fine
[11:48] <Rockj> velle: nah. I use that often. Probably want to add a & after executable so it runs in background and not foreground
[11:48] <MarcC> if you need to run an app as superuser, I'd do alt+f2 and use kdesu instead of sudo
[11:49] <Rockj> or use alt+f2 or  win+r (if you changed keyboard shortcut layout to windows)
[11:49] <adenicio> rockj:they say i dont have any paquet of firefox
[11:50] <Rockj> paquet? which means? is that english? :S
[11:50] <pyrotix_> Rockj: TY
[11:50] <Rockj> ahh, try   sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[11:50] <vzduch> Rockj: looks like Spanish
[11:50] <Daisuke_Ido> french.
[11:50] <velle> MarcC, Rockj: I get to X errors everytime I start any KDE application (of all the ones I have tried). They look something like this: "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169, Major opcode: 145, Minor opcode: 3, resource id: 0x0"
[11:51] <adenicio> rockj:sorry lol no french.they say no firefox install was found
[11:52] <Rockj> adenicio: apt-cache search firefox | grep firefox
[11:52] <Rockj> do you see anything called firefox or mozilla-firefox ?
[11:53] <Rockj> if not, you probably have to add universe repos or something
[11:54] <adenicio> rockj:this  is my first time on kubuntu on the net.im trying to surf with konqueror but an error keep sayin cant find host
[11:54] <velle> MarcC, Rockj: And it is excactly the same thing happening on my other laptop. Except that the input device has number 168, instead of 169.
[11:54] <Rockj> adenicio: you probably havn't configured your network. Does your router give out ip's via DHCP?
[11:55] <MarcC> velle: does your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file have wacom info in it?
[11:55] <Rockj> velle: I get those device errors tho on my laptop. not sure why, havent bothered looked it up yet.
[11:55] <adenicio> rockj:how do u add universe?i only saw does tings in ubuntu
[11:55] <phoenix_> Hello guys and girls.
[11:55] <adenicio> rockj:i have a modem an it's not usb
[11:56] <phoenix_> Can anyone please give me the link to register to the irc?
[11:58] <MarcC> velle: if you are getting those errors, and you have wacom information in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, and you *don't* have a wacom tablet, remove *all* the wacom info including places where it's referred to elsewhere in the file. Then restart X.
[11:58] <Rockj> adenicio: alt+f2 :  kdesu "kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:58] <MarcC> velle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1264009&postcount=3
[11:58] <MarcC> be sure to take the advice about the server section
[11:59] <MarcC> *serverlayout
[11:59] <Rockj> adenicio: there you can see what repostery's who are activated. probably want to activate universe and multiverse.
[11:59] <MarcC> I didn't do that and X wouldn't start until I fixed it :)
[11:59] <MarcC> regardless, have IRSSI ready and know how to restore xorg.conf from backups :)
[12:00] <velle> MarcC: So if I dont have a touch screen at all, my comp is definitely not a wacom? (sorry, but never heard wacom before)
[12:00] <MarcC> velle: yes, in this case it thinks you have a pen tablet, which you probably don't - they're used by artists mostly
[12:00] <MarcC> for some reason this gets included in xorg.conf on a lot of setups, and it's ridiculous
[12:01] <command0-182> Can Someone please help me remove the file: /lib/linux-restricted-modules/.nvidia_new_installed
[12:01] <velle> MarcC: cool, I will try removing all the wacom right away.
[12:01] <command0-182> It won't let me do it normaly
[12:01] <MarcC> velle: see also: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/97192
[12:02] <MarcC> anyway, that should be the problem you're seeing.
[12:02] <command0-182> How do you delete the file:/lib/linux-restricted-modules/.nvidia_new_installed
[12:02] <MarcC> and 2x: don't forget to remove the ServerLayout entry, velle :D
[12:02] <Rockj> but anyone had troubles with closing your laptop lid, closes the network connection?
[12:03] <MarcC> Rockj: what does your laptop do (hibernate|suspend|lock|blank) when you close the screen?
[12:03] <Rockj> or after idle?
[12:03] <Rockj> my laptop gets blank after closing lid or idling
[12:03] <Rockj> but it kills network connection for some odd reason
[12:03] <jhutchins_lt> What happened is that the people who packaged the default xorg.conf file included all the wacom drivers just in case, because the xorg installer didn't check for them.  That way they always work, but for the 90+% of systems that don't have them, they throw (harmless) errors.
[12:03] <jhutchins_lt> Other distros have fixed this, but so far not (k)ubuntu.
[12:04] <Rockj> I can't figure out WHERE it tells it todo it. quite annoying when im trying to copy several gb's over network.
[12:04] <MarcC> interesting, jhutchins_lt
[12:04] <Rockj> jhutchins_lt: kubuntu maintainers should just add a question in install, do oyu use pen tablet? yes or no
[12:05] <Rockj> :)
[12:05] <TeraDyne> Rockj: You should add that as a feature request Launchpad.
[12:05] <jhutchins_lt> Rockj: Other distros test for them - they load the drivers, look for an error, if there's none, they add the driver to xorg.conf.
[12:06] <TeraDyne> on* Launchpad
[12:07] <velle> MarcC: Sorry, but I dont know what you mean by "ServerLayout entry"? I could not find anything like that in xorg.conf.
[12:08] <MarcC> velle: did you see the ubuntuforums post I linked to? Just follow the instructions there...if you don't see the reference, no big deal
[12:08] <jhutchins_lt> Rockj: It's probably suspending to ram, which is what's killing the connection.  You might be able to adjust that with the klaptop power manager, which is what provides that little battery meter in the system tray.
[12:09] <Rockj> jhutchins: nono, its not suspending to ram.
[12:09] <MarcC> velle: just make sure you search for "stylus", "cursor", and "eraser" to make sure those refs are all commented out - if they appear once, they're probably in there twice
[12:09] <Rockj> its just like an black screensaver
[12:09] <MarcC> Rockj, maybe it has something to do with /etc/acpi/lid.sh
[12:09] <Rockj> after idle/reopening laptop lid
[12:10] <velle> MarcC: I'm trying to read all of what you wrote (and I sincerely find it great that your answer is this thorough :) ) but since this X stuff is all new to me, it takes a while to read.
[12:11] <MarcC> velle: no problem, if you want to send me your xorg.conf I will check it for you too
[12:12] <MarcC> or velle, just post it to pastebin if you want
[12:12] <MarcC> !pastebin
[12:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:12] <zombielion> im trying to install cinelerra im needing to install these files libmpeg3hv libquicktimehvim working on the mpeg one now. im not good at installing tar files this is my first time. it is telling me 22 unexpected operator and 29 unexpected operater when i ./configure what does this mean