[00:19] <tomreyn> theNew0rder: in case you're still around: this is a bug in your mainboard firmware ("bios"), affecting your first pci graphics card. look for a mainboard firmware ("bios") upgrade.
[00:20] <tomreyn> running    dmesg | grep DMI:   should tell you which mainboard model and current firmware version you have
 tomreyn: Thanks (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <tomreyn> running    dmesg | grep DMI:   should tell you which mainboard model and current firmware version you have)
[05:43] <fusionfuture> In 21.10 it seems something is trying to make numerous connections to unknown IP address that I have never seen before.
[05:44] <fusionfuture> On my laptop: conntrack v1.4.6 (conntrack-tools): 814 flow entries have been shown.
[05:45] <fusionfuture> But on the router:  15608 ($grep <IP_ADDRESS> /proc/net/nf_conntrack|wc -l)
[05:45] <fusionfuture> <IP_ADDRESS> is the IP address of my laptop running 21.10
[05:47] <fusionfuture> dmesg output on my router floods with "nf_conntrack: nf_conntrack: table full, dropping packet"
 u sure its not kylin version (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <fusionfuture> In 21.10 it seems something is trying to make numerous connections to unknown IP address that I have never seen before.)
[05:48] <fusionfuture> barracudadreams: No. I downloaded 20.10 iso from kubuntu official website, and upgrade to 21.04, and then 21.10
[05:49] <fusionfuture> tcp      6 425463 ESTABLISHED src=<IP_ADDRESS> dst=<IP_ADDRESS> sport=55915 dport=56989 src=<IP_ADDRESS> dst=<IP_ADDRESS> sport=56989 dport=55915 [ASSURED] mark=0 use=1
[05:49] <fusionfuture> The port used is also strange
[05:58] <fusionfuture> No useful information from netstat -tunpl
[06:01] <fusionfuture> https://cleantalk.org/blacklists/<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:02] <fusionfuture> I guess my laptop is gettinng attacked
[06:04] <fusionfuture> Time to use firehol ipset
 daaaamn, good for you for monitoring traffic
[06:21] <fusionfuture> But how are these connection established? I have no public IPV4 address
 hellsworth & Igor is answering Ubuntu and Snap questions on LAS 2021 now
 LAS? (re @bittin1: hellsworth & Igor is answering Ubuntu and Snap questions on LAS 2021 now)
 Linux Application Summit (re @John: LAS?)
 https://linuxappsummit.org/
 Thanks, I registered, but now I can't figure out how to see the presentations. 🤔 (re @bittin1: Linux Application Summit)
 should have gotten an email, if not they will be on Youtube too but its a 58 minute break now
 should have gotten an email, if not they will be on Youtube too but its a 68 minute break now (edited)
 I got the email, should I choose main track, hallway track or both? (re @bittin1: should have gotten an email, if not they will be on Youtube too but its a 68 minute break now)
 maintracks for the presentations, hallway track for idle chatting
 however there is a long break now for about 55-65 minutes
 Thanks for sharing. Are there any good conversations in the hallway track? (re @bittin1: maintracks for the presentations, hallway track for idle chatting)
 kinda silent there as the talks starts in 2 minutes again (re @John: Thanks for sharing. Are there any good conversations in the hallway track?)
 but mostly been silent there today
 Thanks for the late invite, lots of good content. (re @bittin1: kinda silent there as the talks starts in 2 minutes again)
 still going on for 2,5 days (re @John: Thanks for the late invite, lots of good content.)
 so its kinda early in the conference yet
 Good stuff though, I highly recommend it. (re @bittin1: still going on for 2,5 days)
 Am I late? :D (re @bittin1: https://linuxappsummit.org/)
 A little, but there is a lot of good content to come. (re @arunpyasi: Am I late? :D)
 :D Yeah, thanks! :D (re @John: A little, but there is a lot of good content to come.)


[00:00] <garret> Has anyone had any success installing the NVIDIA drivers, I have not, after following as much on-line help as I have found.
[00:08] <istok> i sorted my issue
[00:08] <gry> garret, do you have more details please, what hardware do you have, what problem is like
[00:14] <garret> gry: I have a Samsung QX410 laptop with the NVIDA 310M card.  I can install ubuntu or xubuntu 11.10, but when I try to activate the proprietary NVIDA drivers I can not access the NVIDA server settings.  When I try it tells me that I have to run NVIDIA-XCONFIG.  When I do so out of an X-session, at boot the boot-up fails (stalls).  I then have to go back into recovery and do a sudo apt-get purge nvidai* and rm the xorg files.
[00:14] <garret> I then reboot and get things back like after the install - no NVIDIA driver installed.
[00:15] <gry> I'll not be able to help personally but someone here could, just stick around
[00:15] <garret> gry:  Also I have tried to do the things on the following pages, they did not help: http://mygeekopinions.blogspot.com/2011/06/how-to-install-nvidia-2750907-driver-in.html
[00:15] <garret> http://www.noobslab.com/2011/09/nvidia-drivers-for-ubuntu-1110-oneiric.html
[00:15] <garret> http://askubuntu.com/questions/68220/ubuntu-11-10-wont-boot-with-nvidia-driver-enabled
[00:16] <garret> gry: Thank you for the reply, hope all is well.
[01:37] <glr> Has anyone had any luck installing the nvidia dryers?
[01:39] <glr> Sorry drivers
[01:39] <Thermi> hmm
[01:39] <Thermi> hair driyers? :D
[01:40] <Thermi> glr just install them with syntpic or apt-get
[01:40] <Thermi> *synaptic
[01:40] <Thermi> should work as usual
[01:40] <glr> Thermi have tried without luck.
[01:40] <Thermi> hmm
[01:40] <Thermi> what seems to be the problem?
[01:42] <glr> When I install nvidia-current it will install but does not run. I then run navidia-xconfig and when I reboot the boot up hangs
[01:42] <glr> ,stalls
[01:42] <Thermi> hmm that's sad
[01:42] <Thermi> what does the syslog say`?
[01:42] <Thermi> try to google the errormessage you find
[01:43] <glr> I then have to sudo apt-get purge nivida* and then rm the xconfig file.
[01:43] <Thermi> hrmpf
[01:43] <Thermi> have to go to bed
[01:43] <Thermi> it's already 2:43 AM gere
[01:44] <Thermi> try to google errormessages
[01:44] <Thermi> i'm sure you aren't the only one with that problem
[01:44] <glr> Thermi thank you good night
[01:44] <Thermi> if nothing helps, try older versions
[01:44] <Thermi> ty, you too ;)
[01:45] <glr> Also, I have had no luck finding help on the web for the nvidia issue
[02:36] <puff> Sound stopped working.  Thinkpad t520 running ubuntu 11.10 with xubuntu-desktop.  I fiddled with all of the controls and I tried rebooting, still no sound.
[03:37] <jmcantrell> has anyone used zeitgeist? does it work with xfce?
[04:33] <Bukowskii> any ideas as to why i keep loosing my wireless signal?
[05:04] <pTk> NetworkManger has a bug right now that I experienced last night upon installing
[05:04] <pTk> Bukowskii, you can install WICD and then uninstall network-manager
[05:05] <pTk> The problem is that network manager keeps trying to can for networks and drops the current connection
[05:06] <Bukowskii> ok ill try that thankyou
[05:15] <popsch> how good is WICD? I was thinking of using it instead of the network-manager.
[05:37] <pTk> It's good, simple and easy and worth it if you have the network manager bug
[05:56] <Bukowskii> alright pTk got WICD installed and working but is there anyway to have an icon on the panel for it?
[05:56] <pTk> it should use the same icon that network manager used
[05:57] <Bukowskii> hmmm it just says network manager not running
[06:21] <Saij> ANyone have any isnight into udevd '/sbin/modprobe' -bv issues on boot?
[06:21] <Saij> prior to these messages it will throw a ton of ata1 device was slow to respond messages
[06:49] <Bukowskii> alright pTk i figured it out, just had to restart
[07:41] <pTk> Bukowskii, glad you got it working
[07:43] <Bukowskii> its still dropping my signal even with wicd
[07:44] <pTk> did you remove network manager?
[07:44] <Bukowskii> yeah
[07:45] <Bukowskii> just the pkg called that no dependancies
[09:05] <baizon> sorry
[09:12] <wiccanhelios> Bonjour à tous. Je viens d'installer Xubuntu il y a 2 jours et j'aimerai savoir comment faire pour mettre VCL en lancement par défaut à la place de Parole lorsque j'insère un DVD ?
[09:14] <TheSheep> !fr
[09:14] <wiccanhelios> oups sorry..
[09:15] <TheSheep> no problem, good luck
[09:15] <wiccanhelios> Thanks
[09:43] <baizon> is it possible to remove oneconf on xubuntu?
[09:48] <TheSheep> oneconf?
[09:48] <TheSheep> baizon: what is that?
[09:49] <baizon> yes
[09:49] <baizon> its a canonical feature
[09:49] <TheSheep> my xubuntu doesn't have it
[09:49] <baizon> synchronize your configuration data over the network
[09:49] <TheSheep> so I guess you can remove it
[09:49] <baizon> do you have xubuntu 11.10?
[09:49] <TheSheep> yes
[09:49] <baizon> hmm
[09:49] <baizon> well then i have to check it
[09:49] <baizon> http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/oneconf
[09:50] <baizon> thats what i mean
[09:50] <TheSheep> apt-cache policy oneconf
[09:50] <TheSheep> oneconf: Installed: (none)
[09:50] <baizon> hmm
[09:51] <baizon> the boot time is awful now :(
[09:52] <baizon> i cant remove it
[09:52] <baizon> then i have to remove software-center
[09:53] <TheSheep> who needs software-center :)
[09:53]  * TheSheep has removed all that
[09:53] <baizon> hehehe
[09:53] <baizon> the software-center is nice :P
[09:53] <TheSheep> I liked gdebi more
[09:54] <baizon> im thinking to try out ubuntu again
[09:54] <baizon> unity looks stable now
[09:54] <baizon> and useable
[09:54] <TheSheep> usable
[09:54] <baizon> thank you
[09:54] <TheSheep> I need to do a tour over all the desktops again
[09:54] <TheSheep> hey changed quite a lot
[09:55] <baizon> recently i tested mint
[09:55] <TheSheep> who knows, maybe even kde will be usable?
[09:55] <baizon> hell no
[09:55] <baizon> tested it 1 month ago
[09:55] <baizon> still the same
[09:55] <TheSheep> I'm so addicetd to all the small details that xfce has
[09:56] <TheSheep> like the menu on right mouse click on the desktop
[09:56] <TheSheep> or the way it positions windows
[09:56] <TheSheep> that I can't switch to anything else
[09:56] <baizon> yeah
[09:57] <TheSheep> before xfce4 came out I was using windowmaker :)
[09:58] <baizon> i was using ubuntu
[09:58] <baizon> until gnome 3 / unity
[09:58] <baizon> then i tested all the other distros
[09:58] <baizon> arch is quite nice, but to much to configure
[09:59] <baizon> i like to install and use it
[10:00] <TheSheep> you are talking about distributions, I'm talking about desktop environments
[10:00] <baizon> hmm
[10:00] <baizon> yes i mean you got ...
[10:00] <baizon> xubuntu, kubuntu, etc.
[10:00] <baizon> they all got different de
[10:01] <TheSheep> what desktop environment does arch use by default? xfce too?
[10:01] <baizon> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=119760
[10:01] <baizon> thats what im missing in xfce
[10:02] <baizon> i hope they will include it in xfce 4.10
[10:02] <TheSheep> my screen is to big to maximize any windows ever
[10:02] <TheSheep> maximizing windows is a misfeature
[10:02] <baizon> yes but you can do it with half display
[10:02] <TheSheep> still too big
[10:02] <baizon> check out the youtube video there
[10:02] <baizon> ok ^^
[10:02] <baizon> what monitor do you got? :D
[10:02] <TheSheep> I know that feature
[10:03] <TheSheep> some old dell
[10:03] <baizon> how much " ?
[10:03] <TheSheep> not sure, 21 I think
[10:03] <TheSheep> I got it from my previous work
[10:05] <baizon> nice
[10:06] <TheSheep> btw, care to join xubuntu-offtopic?
[10:08] <baizon> why not :-)
[11:25] <chickenbone> I need help installing official Nvidia Drivers!
[11:25] <TheSheep> go to system, select hardware drivers, select nvidia drivers, done
[11:26] <chickenbone> They are outdated drivers. I am trying to install the latest drivers from Nvidia's website
[11:26] <chickenbone> I have done the following:
[11:27] <chickenbone>  Press ctrl-alt-F1, a text login screen will appear
[11:27] <chickenbone>       * login as root
[11:27] <chickenbone>       * type "init 3" to stop the X server
[11:27] <chickenbone> init 3 - doesen't seem to disable x-server
[11:29] <TheSheep> chickenbone: they are not outdated, these are the drivers that had been tested with ubuntu and confirmed that they work
[11:29] <TheSheep> chickenbone: the drivers from nvidia page were not tested
[11:30] <TheSheep> chickenbone: and are not supported
[11:30] <chickenbone> They don't currently work for my 450 card. thus I'm trying to go through nvidia
[11:30] <chickenbone> How can I disable x server on Xubuntu
[11:31] <TheSheep> sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm stop
[11:32] <chickenbone> thank you. tryiing it noe
[11:49] <mongy> Is there a way to change the font/size of the notifications?  They are a lot bigger than the rest of my UI
[11:50] <TheSheep> mongy: you can create your own notification theme
[11:51] <TheSheep> mongy: they just use the standard gtk theme syntax
[11:53] <mongy> do you know where they are?
[11:55] <TheSheep> in /usr/share/themes and in your ~/.themes
[11:55] <TheSheep> for example /usr/share/themes/greybird/xfce-notify-4.0/gtkrc
[11:55] <mongy> ah
[12:39] <bodom> Hi there! Doesn anybody knows what's the console command to launch xubuntu software center?
[12:42] <baizon> software-center ?
[12:46] <bodom> baizon: thank you
[12:47] <baizon> np
[13:35] <glen_> Hey, how I have three users in xubuntu. How can I set it xubuntu to automatically login as a specific user on boot? I'm using xubuntu 10.04 LTS. Many thanks
[13:39] <glen_> i think i may have found the answer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1588283 - i'll try this
[14:04] <hobgoblin> well madnick - I installed xubuntu and upgraded it to Pangolin - so if it all goes horribly wrong I will blame you :)
[17:30] <popsch> does one today still need cpufreqd or does the kernel already do all that stuff?
[17:30] <GridCube> dunno what that is
[17:32] <popsch> cpu frequency scaling for laptops to conserve power
[17:36] <hobgoblin> popsch: I believe it does it
[17:37] <hobgoblin> I was having a look the other day = http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1777887
[17:41] <popsch> hobgoblin, my question is whether it is still necessary, or whether the kernel already does it automatically
[17:42] <popsch> (by 'it', I mean adjusting the frequency and thus conserving energy)
[17:55] <hobgoblin> popsch: pretty sure it does it - mine is set to ondemand - I didn't do anything
[17:56] <hobgoblin> popsch: in fact - for a short period I had one of the applets on the panel - it was ondemand until it needed otherwise
[18:27] <lrussell> hi
[18:27] <knome> hello
[18:27] <lrussell> will xubuntu 10.04 alternative powerpc run on an imac g3 with a 233 mhz processor and 6gb hd?
[18:27] <lrussell> imac = apple
[18:27] <lrussell> apple imac
[18:28] <TheSheep> !ppc
[18:29] <lrussell> will it run on the crappy specs I mean...
[18:29] <lrussell> !ppc
[18:29] <lrussell> !say hello
[18:30] <knome> please don't play with the bot :P
[18:30] <lrussell> kk...\
[18:31] <Gremuchnik> hi!  on my login menu I have a choice of a "XFCE session" and a "Xubuntu session".  What is the difference?
[18:31] <knome> Gremuchnik, you should use the Xubuntu session, so all services will start up.
[18:31] <lrussell> will xubuntu run on a powerpc 233mhz 6gh hd imac g3? All I ask
[18:31] <lrussell> for everyday use that is
[18:32] <Gremuchnik> knome, thanks
[18:32] <knome> Gremuchnik, the Xfce session might work too, but you won't have the same theme stuff etc.
[18:32] <Gremuchnik> ok
[18:33] <Gremuchnik> also, is it possible to run gnome-shell from inside a Xubuntu session?  I want to play around with it, but logging out just for that purpose if a pain.  Any ideas whether I can just safely launch 'gnome-shell' from the CLI an then return to Xubuntu when I am done (by a killall gnome-shell I suppose)
[18:35] <knome> Gremuchnik, i wouldn't suggest doing that really.
[18:35] <Gremuchnik> knome, why is it risky?
[18:36] <knome> Gremuchnik, i don't know if there are risks, but i wouldn't do that
[18:36] <knome> Gremuchnik, it might mess up things
[18:37] <GridCube> why would yuo want to use gnome stuff with xfce?
[18:37] <Gremuchnik> GridCube, just because Xubuntu if main favorite environment, but I want to play around with G3
[18:38] <Gremuchnik> I don't have any real deep need for it :-)
[18:38] <Gremuchnik> anyway, login logout its gonna be
[18:38] <Gremuchnik> thanks for the pointers guys
[18:38] <knome> yeah, that's safest
[18:39] <Gremuchnik> k
[18:39] <GridCube> you should start a gnome sessioon then :P
[18:39] <Gremuchnik> have you guys tried G3?
[18:39] <Gremuchnik> Gremuchnik, yup
[18:39] <Gremuchnik> I totally hated Unity, but I have some hopes that G3 might be saner...
[18:55] <Guest45298> hello. i'm completely new to xubuntu or any linux OS, i was hoping someone could help me with getting adobe flash installed on xubuntu (11.10)
[18:55] <Sysi> open software center or synaptic and install flashplugin-installer
[18:56] <Guest45298> thx
[18:56] <Sysi> if you want java and mp3 working too, install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:58] <lrussell> will xubuntu 10.04 ppc run on an imac g3 333mhz and 160mb of ram
[18:59] <lrussell> will it...?
[18:59]  * lrussell wonders...
[19:00] <lrussell> !ppc
[19:01] <GridCube> if it does it will be really slow
[19:01] <Sysi> lrussell: not enough ram
[19:01] <GridCube> you shoul try lubuntu
[19:01] <lrussell> does it have powerpc?
[19:02] <lrussell> im using altenative xubuntu ppc btw
[19:02] <Sysi> you can do minimal installation and then install lubuntu-desktop, if it's compiled to repositories
[19:02] <Sysi> !info lxde
[19:02] <Sysi> hum, no arch info
[19:02] <GridCube> !lubuntu
[19:03] <lrussell> !xubuntu
[19:26] <rufianw> I'm having a problem with Xubuntu.
[19:26] <rufianw> Every time I log in, it remembers THE SAME applications.
[19:27] <rufianw> All the time, it remembers the apps from the first time I logged out, not the ones of the last log out.
[19:27] <rufianw> Disabling remembering sessions does not help.
[19:27] <Unit193> When you logout, is "save session" checked? Also remove ~/.cache
[19:28] <rufianw> Trying the second...
[19:28] <Sysi> rufianw: enabling it should, you only neen to remove ~/.cache/sessions
[19:29] <rufianw> It worked!
[19:30] <rufianw>  Next problem: Muting the sound from keyboard works. Un-muting, no.
[19:30] <rufianw> I use pulseaudio.
[19:36] <myke> hello, i have xubuntu 11.10 on a dell n5030, although the touchpad scroll works, chording the two buttons to emulate middle does not (only 2 buttons).  i see that chordmiddle in the X config has been deprecated, what's the best way to get it back?
[19:40] <Sysi> 'Option "Emulate3Buttons" "on"' works in xorg.conf
[20:05] <linuxcat> hello
[20:09] <GridCube> !hi
[20:45] <Ycarene> Ugh, had to chmod -x /usr/bin/nautilus.
[20:58] <GridCube> why not just purge it:)
[21:00] <knome> xubuntu community meeting in 1 hour at #xubuntu-devel
[21:06] <Ycarene> GridCube - Because it's a dependency for a ton of stuff.
[21:06] <GridCube> Ycarene, never needed it so
[21:07] <Ycarene> Hmm, guess it's not as bad if I use apt-get instead of synaptic
[21:07] <GridCube> last time i had nautilus was on a failed upgrade, but purge was just few keystrokesvaway :P
[21:19] <skin> how to edit menu in 11.10
[21:19] <skin> ?
[21:19] <GridCube> skin, alacarte
[21:19] <GridCube> !alacarte
[21:20] <GridCube> !alacartte
[21:20] <GridCube> !info alacarte
[21:20] <skin> tks
[21:20] <GridCube> it says gnome but it works on xfce too
[21:21] <Unit193> sudo apt-get install alacarte --no-install-recommends
[21:28] <jmcantrell> is there a way to do sub menus on thunar's custom actions?
[23:15] <jmcantrell> is there a way to do sub menus on thunar's custom actions?


[00:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200331)
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 welcome >_Sudo
 welcome @londoed
 FYI, today's kubuntu daily iso install fails: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1869992
 welcome @DarinMiller
 Thanks Yousuf. :)
 will there be yaru qt theme for kubuntu?
 if you install it :D
 @DarinMiller is it limited to just the oem install or does it happen with all installs?
 Every install. I cannot pass the network menu regardless of method of install.
[02:25] <valorie> anyone else running into this in the past few hours?
[02:26] <valorie> I've not heard of it in other chans
 updating my iso now and will try
[02:26] <valorie> yet
 Repeated on 2 different laptops with and without wired network connection.
 just with kubuntu?
 yes.  I can try ubuntu or something else if you want.
 Thanks (re @philipz: welcome >_Sudo)
 @DarinMiller please do if you have them
 running in a VM and didnt have a problem. guess i'll have to run on real hardware :D
 The Ubuntu install is not affected by the Kubuntu network bug (same hw).  However, the Ubuntu installer refused to install to a USB drive.... bug?
 no crash on xubuntu for network menu either
 Looking at the source code for ubi-prepare.py where the error was flagged and as the error code states, self.frontend.ubuntu_drivers is not defined in the class...
[03:54] <valorie> not a coder but that doesn't sound good to me!
[03:54] <valorie> mention that in the bug reports?
 all are welcome to retweet for budgie - https://twitter.com/UbuntuBudgie/status/1245091924047990787
 The embedded classes are 1 step above my python comprehension skills, I am attempting to find where several of the class procs are defined/loaded... If I figure it out, I will definitely provide comment at minimum and preferably a patch.
[04:01] <valorie> nice!
[04:01] <valorie> a patch would move things along tremendously
 thanks! (re @philipz: all are welcome to retweet for budgie - https://twitter.com/UbuntuBudgie/status/1245091924047990787)
 What is difference between this and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/pending/ (re @popeydc: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/)
 grepping all files in the ubiquity package shows the only reference is in ubi-prepare.py.  I suspect code was removed from one of import files, but I do not know how to use LP well enough to discover the commit.  It's getting late here.  I am willing to learn if someone has time to edudoge.
 Good night for now.
 welcome @troyBORG
 Hello.  Downloading Kubuntu right now actually.
 I setup 20.04 UB server on my pi over the weekend.
 How's that running? (re @troyBORG: Hello.  Downloading Kubuntu right now actually.
 I setup 20.04 UB server on my pi over the weekend.)
 How big do you guys usually make your UEFI partitions.  Or do you usually just go with whatever the defualt is?
 so far no issues.  It has only a 1day uptime (as I rebooted it recently).
 But its two docker containers its running are still going.
 Plex, and Homeassistant.
 I don't have HASS controlling anything yet, as I'm still learning how it works
 not sure about the uefi partition, but when i do a wipe disk install, it creates a 100mb boot partition i believe
 My desktop looks like it made a 315 MB EFI.    And it has 314 MB free.
 So I don't think it needs to be that big.  (Wonder why it defaulted to that size?)
 same with the 100mb partition.
 One thing I did notice I guess with the UB server on my Pi.  Is the date and time was way off.  Like a few times I told it to do updates it would say the something about database not ready for like 11 days or something
 Ran a ntpdate and that fixed it.
 Then I throw it in as a crontab to run every 12 hrs or something
 I have a ntp server running on my pfsense so it just a local request

 That was the error I got because the date/time was wrong
 so checking on my VM of xubuntu, the /boot/efi which is /dev/sda1 is 511mb and 1% is used
 only 1.02mb is used
 huh.  So why does Ubuntu have the option to Live boot, or install.
 Where Kubuntu only had live boot?
 Oh.....
 Kubuntu Crashed right when I clicked Install...:
 kubuntu must have decided thats how they wanted the grub menu, but once you do start kubuntu, it goes into the installer
 @DarinMiller mentioned the same thing and he's filed a bug for it (re @troyBORG: )
 https://imgur.com/pGkAUvf.png
 from there you choose which one you want
 yep.  if you click install does it crash for you?
 as mentioned above, the kubuntu crash was reported by @DarinMiller
 its limited to just kubuntu, as it doesnt happen in other flavors
 oh
 For some reason I thought that was a different person that said that.  I'm sorry
 no probs
 have you tried any of the testcases for kubuntu?
 obviously you cant do the installer testcases, but presume they have a live session testcase
 no I havn't.  I don't really use KDE.  I was just wanting to boot it to see how it was looking
 this one http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/408/builds/209966/testcases/1303/results
 we as the installer is crashing, try the live session testcase
 well* as
 if you want to add a test result for the crash, you can do so here - http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/408/builds/209966/testcases/1301/results
 @troyBORG you have a launchpad account?
 no I don't
 well if you wish to do testcases, then you would need one
 login.launchpad.net
 oh I guess I do have one...  gotta reset my password I guess
 well I guess I've had my account for a few years.....:
 i added your info to the bug report - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1869992/comments/8
 2014. interesting
 What version of Ubuntu was out back then?
 14.04
 oh wait 13.10
 I know I had used linux before that though.  I'm pretty sure I used PClinuxOS 07...
 I still have the laptop that I had that running on.
 I'm trying to install something, that worked in Ubuntu.  Not sure if its because I'm in live enviroment that it having a shared libaries error..
 Hmm or maybe it doesn't work in qt base?
 I've only tried it on GNOME and Xfce.
 conky
 there is limited stuff you can install when in live session
 it will run out of space
 says only 48% used
 no idea, but i've hit into running out of space multiple times when i've tried to install a number of apps
 I'm just trying to figure out why it won't load.  it says something about shared library.  I looked it up, and it says I have both dependacies for that library installed.
 So, EFI partitions are usually much bigger than explicitly necessary for a couple reasons. The first and primary being that entries in your EFI space can and will grow over time. They're also built to support entries for more than one system. The more entries for more systems you have, the more space is needed. Other things also pass through this space on some operating systems duri
 So I don't think it needs to be that big.  (Wonder why it defaulted to that size?))
 Also, if you do operate under the expectation that a system will maintain operational for long periods of time, a simple filesystem like FAT32 can't do much to counter this effect, and the reliance of the partition table to do its thing and the slow shrinking typically means things just get pushed further and further in over time.
 Also, if you do operate under the expectation that a system will remain operational for long periods of time, a simple filesystem like FAT32 can't do much to counter this effect, and the reliance of the partition table to do its thing and the slow shrinking typically means things just get pushed further and further in over time. (edited)
 Also, if you do operate under the expectation that a system will remain operational for long periods of time, a simple filesystem like FAT32 can't do much to counter things like SSD degrading, and the reliance of the partition table to do its thing and the slow shrinking typically means things just get pushed further and further in over time. (edited)
 @schykle watching you now on the last BDLL ;D
 Ooh yeah :3 Those are great chats. Good bunch of people!
 I recognized your name from BDL
 Ubuntu on Schykle - https://youtu.be/p5xsWPy1_V4?t=3765
 Got my Conky running in Kubutu.  Looks good..:
 Ooh, nicely done! (re @troyBORG: )
 I just change the logo, and change the text to the color of the logo.:
 for those that didn't already see the test week announcement on BDLL with @popeydc and @Sick_Rimmit, here it is - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5xsWPy1_V4&t=5516
 thanks Yousuf, I didn't see it all so missed that
[07:19] <guiverc> I noticed franksmcb couldn't 'skip' validation (1870018), I've been unable to skip lubuntu at all today
 valorie: thanks for the retweets and likes

 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2020-April/040954.html
 testing week mentioned in distrowatch news - https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20200330#news
 all are welcome to retweet - https://twitter.com/Xubuntu/status/1245259607540297729
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> nice one philipz
[10:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200401)
[13:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server amd64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200401)
[13:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server ppc64el [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200401)
[13:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server arm64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200401)
[13:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server s390x [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200401)
[13:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200401)
[13:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu MATE Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200401)
[13:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200401.1)
 Looks like the installer had an update, and it works now:
 Spoke to soon.:
 you should likely create a bug report for that and attach the /var/log/syslog
 Yep
 don't know if you guys are on the mood for a April 1st. did you saw the https://knome.org site??
 yep saw it
 @troyBORG please paste the bug number once you filed a report
 I'm not sure how.  I'm looking on launchpad and I when I click the report a bug.  Am I support to submit it from within?
 I was running the same VM as night, just installed the update with apt and tried to install.
 I backed up the syslog, and going to try it again just to see what happens
 welcome @MrkiMike
 Howdy! :)
 which flavor are you looking to test today
 @Eickmeyer any news from Dustin about TestDrive
 @philipz kubuntu - I'm using KDE Neon these days, but it's broken in so many ways :/
 I restarted the VM, and did the install fresh without having all the stuff I did in the live environment and it didn't crash this time....
 How I do report a bug though the website?  I keep finding myself back at this page:
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
 the report bug link in ubiquity page
 @troyBORG in the terminal you run 'ubuntu-bug [packagename]' where packagename for the installer is ubiquity
 whenever you encounter a bug, please always report it

 but yes, with ubuntu-bug is better option
 if you find a bug in the live session, its 'ubuntu-bug casper'
 "this package has 772 new bugs"

 Is there a way to attach both a screenshot and the syslog when reporting from the website
 syslog is enough
 for ubiquity I mean
 once you run ubuntu-bug, it will send you to launchpad where you can add your screenshots and syslog to it
 otherwise add a new comment for each attachment
 for all those new to bug reporting, you can check out popey's video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjTyzyY9RHw
[14:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200401)
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1870143
 well this isnt really that accurate when the 75th last report was reported 2 months ago (re @RikMills: "this package has 772 new bugs")
 I know. I was just reading it as if I didn't know that and saw it for the 1st time
 oh. lol
 Where can one see status of daily ISO image builds?
 are there any devs here that do bug fixes for ubiquity, as i've filed quite a few over the year and none of been fixed :D
 @jibel is one
 /me hides
[14:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200401)
 don't throw me under the bus ;)
 i closed one that was no longer valid as the UI had changed since i filed it, so that was atleast fixed
 IRC is probably better for this. more are there
 I'm heading back to bed as I got work in 6hrs
 The livefs (squashfs image) part is built in launchpad, and has a page for each flavour like this: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/focal/kubuntu (re @MrkiMike: Where can one see status of daily ISO image builds?)
 The full logs go to: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/
 Thnx! (re @RikMills: The livefs (squashfs image) part is built in launchpad, and has a page for each flavour like this: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/focal/kubuntu)
[14:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200401)
 Not overly accessible. no nice overview page :/
 here is my list - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bugs?search=Search&field.bug_reporter=philipz85
 rik mills can I build image locally? As I just donwloaded iso over relatively slow link it would be nice to do git/bzr pull/update with just diffs
 zsync'ing just the delta of any new build would be best (re @MrkiMike: rik mills can I build image locally? As I just donwloaded iso over relatively slow link it would be nice to do git/bzr pull/update with just diffs)
 ack, will try that once the iso gets available
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf0CC2fPxoU
[14:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200401)
 New Kubuntu ISO should be available
 + probably others
 @philipz None at all. I think it has to be forked at this point.
 @popeydc do you have easy access to Dustin?
 @bashfulrobot <- he's right there
 Dustin Kirkland
 Oh, why?
 erich sent a patch for testdrive
 No, I didn't send a patch.
 It was someone else.
 what's testdrive?
 launchpad.net/testdrive
 that was @Sick_Rimmit (re @philipz: erich sent a patch for testdrive)
 gui app for download ISOs
 wow, that's old
 I'm downloading it now. (re @RikMills: New Kubuntu ISO should be available)
 ERR:NeedCoffee
 @Eickmeyer sounds like you have Error #12648430.
 Get it?
 No, I don't get it.
 Try converting it to something other than decimal! 😁
 Niiiiiice
 zsync is neat :)
 I wonder should CPU load monitor widget be removed from Kubuntu -it's ugly and it just pushed away all of my other widgets :)
 I prefer the CPU speed monitor from the Temps, Volts, Fans plugin for KSysGuard.
 I'm overclocked, so I like seeing the actual clock speed.
 that was my problem with KDE all the time - it looks beautiful on still screenshots but when you actually try to set up your widgets and stuff, it';s just ... ugly and unusable
 gnome2/MATE is also ugly, but it's super usable

 Looks ok
 @RikMills now put it on a panel - it stretches all the way if you enable multiple CPUs
 I would use the system load widget in a panel (re @MrkiMike: @RikMills now put it on a panel - it stretches all the way if you enable multiple CPUs)

 thnx, a bit better
 well, looks nice-ish :) Almost the same versions of KDE and libs as in current Neon
 some widget are not optimised for panels :(
 Yup :/
 it's mayhem:D
 I would do CPU clock speed and total load instead of individual load for the widget. Just my $0.02. Think about someone with a TR 3990X! Will the widget have 64 load %'s?! 😁
 LOL :D right :D
 those should be redesigned, old ones removed...
 Actually it would be 128 %'s with SMT enabled, right? 🤣
 welcome @JoseRamonRG
 Thanks, although I have just entered the Linux world I hope to be of help and to be able to contribute something to the group (re @philipz: welcome @JoseRamonRG)
 glad to have you aboard. did you read any of the announcements to know what you can do to help?
 I'm reading the pinned message
 pinned message is basic info
 @JoseRamonRG which distro are you looking to test
 my mistake flavor :D
 I am on lubuntu 18.04 LTS but due to some limitations I plan to switch to ubuntu 18.04 LTS
 anyone know the guy at omgubuntu to have him to an article for the testing week
 then you should read the ubuntu announcement - https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/testing-ubuntu-20-04-lts-official-ubuntu-flavors/14053
 Although my computer is low on resources, if ubuntu works correctly without problems on my machine, then I will try the new 20.04
 if you need something lighter, you can try out xubuntu - https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-20-04-testing-week/
 How come the Ubuntu Dash shows that it is now "Dash-to-Dock".   Does that mean once they add support for it in the new GNOME that it will come out of the box where you could move the GNOME bar from the side to the bottom?:
 On extensions.gnome.com it looks like dash-to-dock still only supports 3.34 and not the new Gnome 3.36.
 So i'm guessing that is it?
 guess it must be.
 heads up to flavors, xubuntu will be tweeting atleast once a day to promote #UbuntuTestingWeek, so please consider doing the same
[19:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200401)
[19:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop arm64 [Focal Beta] has been updated (20200401)
 this is the banner image that xubuntu will be using to help with the promotion. if anyone wants to utilize the same by replacing the logo and background, let me know and i can share the .xcf file:
 may as well have it just in case ;) (re @philipz: heads up to flavors, xubuntu will be tweeting atleast once a day to promote #UbuntuTestingWeek, so please consider doing the same)
 @RikMills did you reply to the wrong message?
 probably
 so are you asking for the .xcf?
 yes
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T_GmkEYro0CX6kF0qdDYQ2uqy185HVpb/view?usp=sharing
 whats .xcf
 gimp file
 whats .xcf
 GIMP format... (edited)
 I had to browse though my pc to find what it was
 Does kubuntu use discover or the snapstore?
 Discover
 @philipz thanks :)
 Hmm.  It looks like Krita can also open it.
 @RikMills welcome. hope kubuntu uses it :D
 Will you be able to install deb packages in it or only snaps like the one in ubuntu?
 onlything I don't see is the guide rulers looks like
 Discover in Kubuntu can install debs from the archive and snaps. There is also a flatpak backend which you can optionally install. (re @MateoBioengineer: Will you be able to install deb packages in it or only snaps like the one in ubuntu?)
 Thanks for the information
 I'm thinking of switching to kubuntu
 the installer bug is already resolved?
 which bug?
 @RikMills two bugs were reported today
 This one (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1869992 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity crashes during Kubuntu OEM install on WIFI menu" [Undecided,New])
 this is one (re @troyBORG: )
 this was a second one (re @troyBORG: )
 Then yes, that is fixed. (re @MateoBioengineer: This one)
 That one was not reproducible, and may have been a result of what was done to the live system before the installer was started (re @philipz: this was a second one)
 This is why I asked which bug
 Plus there have been other reported, again, some without enough info to be useful
 so if the installer crashes due tot he live session, is it an ubiquity bug or casper bug?
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1870143/comments/4 (re @philipz: so if the installer crashes due tot he live session, is it an ubiquity bug or casper bug?)
 I'll wait for the beta to test it
 Yep that was me. (re @RikMills: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1870143/comments/4)
 Is there a way to view my submitted bug reports as a list?
 FYI, if you're experiencing WiFi performance with Intel WiFi drivers being slow, remove backport-iwlwifi-dkms.  The performance is back to the way it should be with it gone.
 night everyone
 FYI, if you're experiencing WiFi performance with Intel WiFi drivers, remove backport-iwlwifi-dkms.  The performance is back to the way it should be with it gone. (edited)
 which is better wayland or xorg?
 Depends how you define "better"
 fluidity and stability
 Personally I only use xorg
 I have a problem with the store:
 The others snaps are okay, it's only the store
 There's benefits and drawbacks to either. Wayland can be difficult in regards to compatibility or some quirks/bugs that aren't ironed out yet, but it can be faster in some cases and is supposed to be more secure. (re @MateoBioengineer: which is better wayland or xorg?)
 It's worth trying, see if your use-case will be suited by it or not. For some it is, but for many others there are some stoppers. Either way, Wayland could definitely use some more trials/testing in general if you're ever up for it.


[02:14] <anabain> which CLI command can be used in order to find out which directory is dolphin currently at?
[02:19] <genii> which dolphin
[07:21] <ubernoob> hello. just curious as to what kind of a theme i'm looking for splash screen, is it still ksplash?
[07:25] <valorie> !info ksplash
[07:25] <valorie> ubernoob: I guess not
[07:26] <ubernoob> oh, hm.... i wonder then
[07:26] <valorie> where exactly?
[07:26] <valorie> grub theme, ubiquity, or what?
[07:27] <ubernoob> just when its loading up where it scrolls across the screen showing load progress, after login
[07:27] <valorie> where it says Kubuntu, slowly pulsing?
[07:28] <ubernoob> no uhm.. on mine its the kde logo, multicolored with a progress bar
[07:28] <valorie> oh, that's plasma loading, yeah
[07:28] <valorie> we don't style that at all
[07:29] <valorie> you might find out more in #plasma
[07:29] <ubernoob> oh just on or off huh. ok thank you
[07:29] <valorie> yw, good luck
[08:17] <calcmandan> fresh install of kubuntu 15.10 this evening. setup the amarok plugin ampache and connected it with my server. It's listing my music but not playing. It'll play anything but streaming via ampache. I launched amarok --debug and captured this: https://paste.kde.org/potqlbjer
[08:17] <calcmandan> at this point, i can't figure out what the issue is. before reinstalling kubuntu tonight, amarok worked just fine.
[08:18] <soee_> do you have backports ppa enabled ?
[08:27] <calcmandan> ummm
[08:27] <calcmandan> let me check
[08:30] <calcmandan> soee_: can't tell
[08:32] <calcmandan> yes backports are enabled
[08:32] <soee_> well backports containe 2.9beta i think and that might be the problem here
[08:33] <calcmandan> got 2.8.0 installed.
[08:37] <valorie> hmm, I can't remember how to use ampache
[08:37] <calcmandan> it's a plugin in amarok.
[08:37] <calcmandan> once it's enabled, you add the server and credential info.
[08:38] <calcmandan> i'm able to select themusic and when i hit play nothing happens
[08:38] <calcmandan> ampache is my media server.
[08:39] <calcmandan> i had an issue with corruption on my previous install. it was all working a few hours ago.
[08:42] <valorie> right, I know what it is, and I found it
[08:42] <valorie> however, I'm not sure that the server I'm connecting to, still exists
[08:45] <valorie> what I see though is
[08:45] <valorie> BEGIN: void AmpacheAccountLogin::authenticate(const KUrl&, QByteArray, NetworkAccessManagerProxy::Error)
[08:45] <valorie> amarok:   server response code: 0 ""
[08:45] <valorie> amarok: END__: void AmpacheAccountLogin::authenticate(const KUrl&, QByteArray, NetworkAccessManagerProxy::Error) [Took: 0s]
[08:46] <valorie> yours connects and finds a song
[08:46] <valorie> mine doesn't
[09:16] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:18] <Smurphy> Morning
[09:18] <lordievader> Hey Smurphy, how are you doing?
[09:50] <Smurphy> lordievader: Work, as usual...  You're a life saver ...
[09:52] <Smurphy> And - the only reason these guys are still alive is because it is against the law to shoot them...
[09:52] <Pliny> is someone familiar with the wifi problem on the yoga 3 pro? (15.10) since I cannot seem to solve it. although i installed all updates directly from the install disk
[09:52] <lordievader> Pliny: Is the wifi card detected?
[09:53] <Pliny> no, thats the strange thing
[09:53] <Smurphy> Pliny: You have the possibility to connect ethernet on it ? Then update all packages from there first.
[09:53] <Pliny> on the install disk it works
[09:53] <Pliny> after installing boradcom drivers etc
[09:53] <Smurphy> broadcom is a mess ... always was, always will be IMHO.
[09:53] <lordievader> Pliny: You can look at what driver the live-cd uses and install that.
[09:54] <hateball> Smurphy: Still it is glorious compared to Realtek (ime)
[09:54] <Smurphy> hateball: true.
[09:54] <Pliny> yes, this is the strange thing. i instrall all the packages needed for it to function, than with the install i directly update. but as soon as i start up the wifi is not working or detected
[09:55] <Pliny> even when i reinstall the drivers
[09:55] <Pliny> pretty fucked up :p
[09:57] <Pliny> and i'm very sick of unity..
[09:58] <lordievader> Pliny: Please watch your language.
[09:58] <Fritigern> Give Kubuntu a whirl then. It's still 'buntu though, so I don;t expect different results on your wifi issues. But at least it's not Unity
[09:58] <lordievader> Pliny: What is the output of 'lspci -k'?
[09:59] <Pliny> sorry, forgot i'm on an international (non-eu only) chat
[10:00] <Pliny> dont know by heart lordie
[10:00] <Pliny> would need to start in kubuntu to figure that out ;)
[10:00] <lordievader> You don't have the machine available?
[10:01] <Pliny> its this machine...
[10:01] <lordievader> Connecting it through ethernet is no option?
[10:02] <Pliny> dont have an adapter for it. but i would be able to go and get one today. will need one anyway. :)
[10:02] <Pliny> so maybe i should just keep it with that and than update
[10:03] <lordievader> For example, it would also make troubleshooting easier.
[10:04] <Pliny> true, and since I'm working with adruino and processing for some visual projects, I will need the adapter anyway soon.
[10:05] <Pliny> just though it would be maybe an easy solution so I can start running my script that installs all my necessarry programs. :) (since i almost always clean install linux)
[10:52] <howlymowly> hi everyone..  short question:  I am using kubuntu 15.10 two problems:  first:  krunner is not realy usable as it crashes almos evertime I use it ..  is there an easy way to "reset" the configuration of it? which files do I have to delet?  second: the spinning "wait" icon (for example when telepathy is connecting) is "infinitly" fast on my computer which takes 100% processor power ...   any idea what to do about that ;)?   (all of these
[10:52] <howlymowly> things appeared after an update from 15.04 to 15.10)
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:23] <jubo2> Hiya BluesKaj
[12:24] <jubo2> Where can I switch the blue glowing Kubuntu text to the clasical white-on-black textual view of the startup process?
[12:26] <lordievader> jubo2: The tool plymouth-select-theme (or however it is called) can do that for you. (Don't forget to update your initramfs).
[12:27] <jubo2> is that installed by default lordievader?
[12:27] <lordievader> No idea, think so.
[12:28] <jubo2> plymouth-upstart-bridge ?
[12:28] <jubo2> other options tab-completion gives are plymouth and plymouthd
[12:31] <hateball> jubo2: do you just want to do away with the splash screen?
[12:31] <jubo2> hateball: yes, please
[12:32] <hateball> jubo2: sudo nano /etc/default/grub, remove "quiet splash" from GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="", save, sudo update-grub
[12:32] <lordievader> Oh, I thought you wanted the text based version of the splash screen.
[12:34] <jubo2> Thanks hateball
[12:34] <jubo2> I gonna store this in my ~/Documents/commands/
[12:34] <jubo2> it is just bad manners to not preserve the commands and then come bumming again for the same thing
[12:35] <jubo2> done.
[12:36] <BluesKaj> hey jubo2, lordievader, hateball
[12:36] <lordievader> o/
[12:47] <joan_> well, how can I get via CLI which dir(s) is currently dolphin at?
[12:49] <Yossarianuk> joan_: not sure if this is what you meanbut if you double click on the location it gives the full path (which you can then copy)
[12:56] <jubo2> This seeems interesting - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation#Automotive_Grade_Linux
[12:56] <lordievader> joan_: dolphin .
[12:56] <lordievader> Oh, wait the other way around...
[12:56] <lordievader> Perhaps through dbus?
[12:57] <jubo2> I mean who'd want a M$FT car
[12:58] <jubo2> M$FT user? expecting to see white stuff on blue background. Ring any bell with other unfortunate to have used Windows
[13:33] <enex> hello. I have a question regarding the boot process. Scenario is as follows: Existing system with 120 GB SSD, three primary partitions, one is /boot, the other two are luks-encrypted / and luks-encrypted swap
[13:35] <enex> the entire thing I copied via dd to a new 240 GB SSD for a new machine, then deleted the third (swap) partition so I could enlarge the second partition, all worked fine, then created a new third encrypted swap partition at the end
[13:35] <enex> and modified the fstab to the new UUID of the third partition
[13:36] <Smurphy> then you need to recreate the initial ramdisk so it knows what partition UUID to mount
[13:36] <enex> when I boot the new system I get an error message though, because it can't mount the third, falls back to initramfs, exit that and you get the reason for not booting, it is still trying for the old UUID
[13:37] <enex> can't find where that might still be though
[13:37] <enex> hmm
[13:37] <enex> got a pointer as to how to do this?
[13:48] <BluesKaj> enex, can you get to a vt/tty and run sudo blkid to find the newly assigned UUID, then change it in /etc/fstab
[13:49] <enex> or differently asked, can I just unzip the image, modify the contents and the re-zip it? or will that be a checksum problem or interfere with other things?
[13:50] <enex> is the ramdisk, once mounted, read only? or does it actually write back to the image? can't imagine it does, does it?
[13:50] <enex> probably stupid questions to ask :-)
[13:52] <BluesKaj> guess mine was an immaterial suggestion , since we're dealing luks and encrypted partitions etc
[13:53] <lordievader> enex: Boot into a live cd, mount your install chroot it and fix stuff ;)
[13:55] <Alex-Zion> Hi everyone, I'm running a kubuntu 14.04 and I would like to have even kde5 on it, is possible to install kde5 and select during login process which one to use ?
[13:55] <BluesKaj> lordievader, don't think he's paying attention to any responses...there's alot of that going on today
[13:56] <enex> I am
[13:56] <lordievader> Alex-Zion: No, for plasma5 you need to upgrade to 15.10.
[13:56] <enex> I am in parallel running up and down the stairs though to try what works though, trying to figure out just how to fix it ;-)
[13:58] <enex> must admit, up until now I never paid much thought to just how the boot process works under these circumstances, so please bear with me, your help is appreciated
[13:58] <hateball> Alex-Zion: The least painful way is to wait for 16.04, you can upgrade straight to that from 14.04
[13:59] <Alex-Zion> thanks lordievader, but I would like to remain on LTS so I can't test it
[13:59] <lordievader> enex: What version of Kubuntu are you running?
[14:00] <Alex-Zion> and in any case would be great to have both installed on the same system but I think isn't possible
[14:00] <BluesKaj> enex, well, /boot partitions are really not required anymore, unless of course required by special circumstances
[14:01] <enex> 14.04 lts
[14:01] <joan_> lordievader, and is there any way to get similar results when dolphin is called graphically?
[14:02] <Alex-Zion> yeah hateball the best solution is to waint until 16.04 but I dont feel completely ready to leave kde4
[14:02] <BluesKaj> Alex-Zion, i prefer my 14.04 as is with kde/plasma 4 and I have no desire to change to 5 after what I've seen so far, altho I am testing 16.04
[14:03] <hateball> Alex-Zion: You can always download 15.10 or 16.04 and run off a thumbdrive to test it out
[14:04] <enex> if I could I'd just change the UUID of the new partition containing swap to the old UUID
[14:04] <enex> but so far that hasn't worked either
[14:04] <lordievader> Alex-Zion: Sure you can have a dual-boot of Trusty and Wily.
[14:04] <Yossarianuk> BluesKaj: here is a good review of Plasma 5.5 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=kde-2016-review&num=1
[14:04] <Alex-Zion> BluesKaj: I test kde5 on a virtual machine and i tried with few different distro, that's why I would like to have both , because I don't completely trust kde5 for now
[14:05] <lordievader> enex: Hmm, well still, in the best case an update of the initramfs is enough.
[14:05] <Yossarianuk> And plasma 5.6 sounds really good (not likely to make it to 16.04 though..)
[14:05] <lordievader> joan_: Err, through dbus a lot of actions are callable, but i haven't found anything that returns the pwd. (Didn't look very hard though)
[14:06] <joan_> lordievader, the idea is to inform a script at the server side what is the location the client dolphin is at, in order to decide from that script if the dir is under an nfs mount. In that case, the script will kill that dolphin instance. That, combined with previous identification on nfs files via lsof -N and proper handling, will avoid the client hanging when the server is shut down.
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Yossarianuk, phoronix has lost all credibility with me after their prediction about kubuntu
[14:07] <enex> @BluesKaj: special circumstances, none, really, it's just how the setup was suggested back then
[14:07] <joan_> lordievader, btw, I'm using autofs
[14:07] <joan_> at the client
[14:08] <lordievader> enex: Luks is a special circumstance ;)
[14:08] <clivejo> what prediction?
[14:08] <enex> ah, ok, nevermind then :P
[14:08] <lordievader> joan_: lsoffing the dolphin pid doesn't yield results?
[14:08] <BluesKaj> that 15.10 is the last kubuntu OS, clivejo
[14:09] <enex> thought somehow someone had figured out some other way of putting the necessary information somewhere and start decryption
[14:10] <enex> I am still fuzzy on how to "fix things" though, though I have leads now, thank you
[14:10] <lordievader> joan_: Hmm, nevermind, it's cwd is of where theprocess started.
[14:10] <joan_> lordievader, it yields too many, indeed, and none if them tells where it is, at least I don't know how to find it out
[14:11] <lordievader> enex: Supposedly grub can boot off of luks (or was that lvm), but having a /boot and an initramfs is easier.
[14:12] <enex> lvm it can AFAIK
[14:12] <hateball> lordievader, joan_ , havent follow conversation fully but have you tried using qdbusviewer to see what is possible to query dolphin?
[14:14] <joan_> hateball, no, but thanks, I'll investigate. Btw, my fourth post before this one tells the whole story
[14:16] <joan_> hateball, lordievader, just in case, I'm on 15.10
[14:16] <joan_> hateball, qdbusviewer: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qdbusviewer': No such file or directory
[14:19] <hateball> joan_: installed through apt?
[14:19] <hateball> I am on 14.04 on this machine, fwiw
[14:20] <hateball> iirc dolphin is still using qt4 in 15.10? so one would need to install qt4-dev-tools I guess?
[14:20] <joan_> hateball, I suppose I have to install it, right?
[14:21] <hateball> joan_: yes, sudo apt install qt4-dev-tools
[14:21] <hateball> or possibly qttools5-dev-tools
[14:21] <hateball> but as I said I am on 14.04 here so I am not 100% sure
[14:22] <hateball> "which qdbusviewer" should point to /usr/bin if it's installed proper
[14:22] <hateball> there are many many actions available, trying to find a cwd
[14:23] <joan_> hateball, qttools5-dev-tools is installed, but it doesn't seem to work: which yields: /usr/bin/qdbusviewer
[14:24] <joan_> but even /usr/bin/qdbusviewer at the CLI outputs the former error
[14:24] <hateball> something is obviously broken with it then
[14:24] <hateball> hmmm, one can grab window title...
[14:32] <hateball> joan_: I suppose you could read the source for dolphin and see how it determines "open a terminal here"
[14:37] <joan_> hateball, wow! Yes, but I don't know if I'll be able to understand enough to do that...
[14:38] <Guest25836> 恩
[14:47] <hateball> joan_: also I dont know why I wrote cwd instead of pwd
[14:47] <hateball> at any rate my brain is fried now, I cant find anything
[14:48] <joan_> ok, thanks, but as I need CLI tools, it seems that qdbus is what I need. qdbusviewer is GUI, right?
[14:50] <hateball> joan_: it's a gui to query running apps what you can do with them
[14:50] <hateball> it's possible to grab all that using qdbus as well, just... more painful
[14:51] <hateball> anyhow, you then use qdbus to send the commands
[14:51] <joan_> ok, then I need qdbus, because I want the dolphin current path info within a script
[14:51] <hateball> you have qdbus if you're running plasma :p
[14:51] <hateball> well, anything kde
[14:52] <foormea> hey, i wanna get online gtalk/hangouts with the "instant messaging" module. in system settings/online accounts, i've connected my google account, a google authentication window popped up and i put my login/password in there, worked fine, and i see my google account in that config window. when i press "configure", it just bugs and quit system settings. in systray, if i press "go online" on the IM icon, nothing happens
[14:52] <joan_> yeah, the point is that I've no idea how to run it in order to get the dolphin info. Let's see if somebody helps, in the meantime I'll be reading and googling...
[14:55] <hateball> joan_: it works like this. start a dolphin window. then in a terminal you type "qdbus org.kde.do<tab"
[14:56] <hateball> joan_: then continue tabbing to show what's available
[14:56] <hateball> and under each / there are more options
[14:56] <hateball> joan_: as an example, this is how to show clipboardcontent "qdbus org.kde.klipper /klipper org.kde.klipper.klipper.getClipboardContents"
[14:58] <joan_> ok, thank you very much, you've been most helpful
[15:40] <enex> ha, works. To the problem I had earlier, to whom it may concern: unzip /boot/initrd.img-KERNEL-VERSION-NUMBER-generic
[15:41] <enex> edit the resulting file in a regular text editor, careful, the top part of the file doesn't really look like text, but it gets better soon
[15:41] <enex> replace the old UUIDs with the new ones
[15:42] <enex> careful, for the luks construction you get two UUIDs per partition to replace, the one "inside" and the generic one
[15:42] <enex> re-zip, works like a charm
[15:44] <enex> thanks to those who helped and delivered the right keywords to work this out ;-)
[15:45] <lordievader> enex: Does that 'fix' still work after an update of the initram-fs?
[15:45] <enex> excellent question
[15:46] <enex> I'll have to have a look at how those updates are done
[15:57] <Guest25836> https://shimo.im/download/export?filename=1GkPUJLhOUIMYX7B.docx&downloadAs=富贵萌照.docx
[15:58] <soee_> ?
[15:58] <Guest25836> https://shimo.im/doc/2ZbTIez49tMd1GXw
[15:59] <Guest25836> 可以在线编辑的 哦
[16:00] <BluesKaj> !cn | Guest25836
[16:33] <eluus> I am having trouble setting my bluetooth speaker as A2DP (high quality)
[16:33] <eluus> kubuntu sets it as HSP/HEP and it sounds horrible like that
[16:33] <eluus> does anyone know how to fix this?
[17:28] <Guest48966> Is Kubuntu different from Ubuntu
[17:28] <Guest48966> I mean the like partition tables required and stuff?
[17:28] <genii> Guest48966: No, all the lower level stuff is the same
[17:29] <Guest48966> higher level, AKA X11, KDE, and etc. ?
[17:30] <foormea> hiya. i have a HID device that by default acts as a keyboard/mouse combo. what would be my best way to have a linux box execute scripts upon key triggers coming from that device? i know i can easily remap the 'keymap' on that speific device, but i'm not looking to simply remap, but execute scripts
[17:30] <Guest48966> https://a.uguu.se/erctqn.png
[17:30] <Guest48966> does look good?
[17:31] <BluesKaj> foormea, best to ask in ##linux
[17:32] <foormea> ok thanks BluesKaj
[17:33] <BluesKaj> !uefi | Guest48966
[17:35] <Guest48966> bloomed, okay
[17:37] <michelsedgh> hey is there any way to enable kde connect on 5.5.3 plasma? :C
[17:48] <clivejo> michelsedgh: what you mean enable it?
[17:49] <michelsedgh> clivejo: in 5.5 it doesnt work, i have no idea why
[17:50] <clivejo> you on wily or xenial?
[17:50] <michelsedgh> wily
[17:51] <clivejo> amd64?
[17:51] <michelsedgh> yes
[17:52] <clivejo> mind testing something?
[17:53] <michelsedgh> no tell me :) (im a little noob btw)
[17:54] <clivejo> !info kdeconnect-plasma
[17:55] <clivejo> can you try installing n updated version in my PPA?
[17:55] <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/wily/+files/kdeconnect-plasma_0.9f-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa1_amd64.deb
[17:56] <michelsedgh> its installed
[17:56] <michelsedgh> do i have to reboot or something? or delete the old one?
[17:58] <soee_> kdeconnect works fine for me
[18:02] <michelsedgh> nope doesnt work :c
[18:02] <michelsedgh> yeah works
[18:02] <michelsedgh> thanks :))
[18:02] <BluesKaj> michelsedgh, you may have to delete the old connection on your phone/device and retry
[18:03] <BluesKaj> kde connect here on plasma 5.5.3 is working after did that
[18:03] <BluesKaj> I did that
[18:03] <michelsedgh> yeah i did that at the first try but it took some time to send the request so when i send the request from my phone it said an error but in the next try it worked :)
[18:04] <michelsedgh> kdeconnect is a great and useful app, i like it :)
[18:04] <clivejo> I must grab a recent git, see if there is any nice new features
[18:05] <michelsedgh> that would be great! thank you :)
[18:06] <michelsedgh> thanks as always :) see you guys :)
[18:07] <clivejo> https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kdeconnect-kde.git 0.9g
[18:09] <michelsedgh> oh sorry but there is a problem with kde connect and browsing files in dolphin! http://imgur.com/W6OWkJm
[18:42] <eluus> does anyone know how to enable high fidelity sound output for bluetooth audio?
[18:42] <eluus> problem effects both ubuntu and kubuntu 15.10
[18:51] <BluesKaj> eluus, not familiar with bluetooth, but I do know that both analog and digital soundcard outputs are hi fidelity in lossless codec form if so sourced
[18:52] <eluus> There are two options for bluetooth
[18:52] <eluus> one is the high fidelity A2DP Sink
[18:52] <eluus> other is Headset (HSP/HFP)
[18:53] <eluus> the latter has awful sound quality
[18:53] <eluus> barely good enough for speech
[18:53] <michelsedgh> BluesKaj: sorry do you know any fix for kdeconnect opening dolphin problem ?!
[18:54] <eluus> the A2DP option is there but it doesn't work
[18:55] <BluesKaj> michelsedgh, no , I just check in ~/Downloads after transferring files from my phone and they are usually there
[18:55] <michelsedgh> BluesKaj: i cant transfer!
[18:57] <BluesKaj> michelsedgh, have you chosen a file manager on your phone to transfer from ?
[18:58] <michelsedgh> BluesKaj: defult only
[18:58] <BluesKaj> eluus, have you seen this , it could be relevant
[18:58] <michelsedgh> BluesKaj: sorry i have to leave :c im late. see you
[18:58] <BluesKaj> eluus, https://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser/a2dp
[18:58] <michelsedgh> i will come later for kdeconnect
[18:58] <michelsedgh> bye
[18:59] <eluus> thanks BluesKaj I'll try that too after this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=194006
[19:01] <eluus> brb
[19:12] <filippo> ciao
[19:12] <filippo> !list
[20:28] <stec> Hi for everyone
[20:28] <stec> I need some help
[20:29] <stec> I have a problem when  unplug the external monitor
[20:30] <stec> The laptop screen turns black
[20:30] <stec> but  in tty mode works


[00:34] <[Solaris]> question about a dhcp server, does the server need to be "inline" (eg external --dhcp server --internal) or can the dhcp server exsist anywhere in the network
[00:34] <[Solaris]> i.e. internet connected to the router (currently running dhcp) and 4 computers connected to the router... I want to mvoe the DHCP to one of the servers
[00:45] <stainer> Solaris: Thats how we have it set up at work, with a windows server handing out addresses
[00:46] <[Solaris]> which way
[00:47] <[Solaris]> the first way "inline" or the second "in the cluster"
[00:49] <stainer> in the cluster
[00:49] <stainer> I was just looking at my linksys router and I can do it that way here at home
[00:50] <stainer> just disble dhcp and the other server will hand out the addy,s
[00:50] <stainer> Keep the default, Enable, to enable the Router' DHCP server option. If you already have a DHCP server on your network or you do not want a DHCP server, then select Disable.
[00:51] <[Solaris]> I want to activate the servers DHCPd and turn off the routers
[00:51] <[Solaris]> but maintain the current dhcp settings
[00:52] <[Solaris]> but then would i have to tell the server DHCP to redirect traffic to router
[00:52] <[Solaris]> since the router will no longer be the defualt gateway
[00:52] <stainer> no, thats not the way I understand it
[00:53] <stainer> the router will still do what it does, but the dhcp service will just be handled on another box
[00:53] <stainer> its just a service like httpd or sshs
[00:53] <stainer> err sshd
[00:54] <[Solaris]> erm i don't think my router has an interal dhcp request, and it will need to be hardcoded anyways
[00:55] <[Solaris]> right now the router is .1 server is .3 other boxes are .2 .4 .5 etc
[00:55] <stainer> when a computer needs an addy it just sends out a request, and as long as you have the port open through your router it will get the dhcp server. I would put a static on the router of <IP_ADDRESS> or simaliar and keep it as a gateway
[00:56] <[Solaris]> erm
[00:56] <[Solaris]> if that option worked that be great
[00:57] <[Solaris]> won't have to change anything really then
[00:57] <stainer> http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch08_:_Configuring_the_DHCP_Server
[00:58] <stainer> a router/switch is idependant of dhcpd, the dhcp is an added feature of a router
[01:02] <[Solaris]> stainer kewl beans
[01:04] <stainer> you could go modem/linux box/router/network and have the linux box handle the netork AND dhcp, but that is above my skill set... I think there is a distro that will do that though
[01:04] <[Solaris]> erm so i have to write my very own dhcpd.conf ... joys
[01:04] <[Solaris]> thats the way I used to do it
[01:05] <[Solaris]> but this server doesn't have two nics
[01:05] <[Solaris]> and its a internal fileserver and don't want it on the outside really
[01:05] <stainer> gotcha
[01:06] <stainer> maybe you can help me now... I have 2 cpu's in my server. How do I know if the cpu #2 is getting used?
[01:08] <[Solaris]> i use conky to monitor loads on my cpu and other stuff
[01:08] <[Solaris]> but you have to have X installed
[01:08] <stainer> I googled it
[01:08] <stainer> systat
[01:09] <stainer> mpstat -P ALL show everything
[01:09] <[Solaris]> systat doesn't exsist on ym server
[01:10] <stainer> sorry sysstat
[01:10] <stainer> extra s
[01:13] <[Solaris]> heh still don't ahve that cmd
[01:14] <[Solaris]> heh there used to be a online place to generate dhcpd.conf files
[01:15] <stainer> mpstat is the command, but the package is sysstat
[01:23] <[Solaris]> ahh
[04:27] <KrystallKitt> How busy is it in here?
[04:28] <ScottK> This time of day, not very.
[04:28] <KrystallKitt> Okay thats good
[04:28] <ScottK> Much busier during the US/European working day.
[04:28] <KrystallKitt> heh
[04:29] <KrystallKitt> Well I kinda need help with my audio drivers i think
[04:29] <ScottK> Audio and Server don't generally go together.
[04:29] <KrystallKitt> >.<
[04:30] <KrystallKitt> Well i've been having trouble with installing a game "Frets On Fire"
[04:30] <KrystallKitt> and honestly i know I'm never going to get help in a room with 1200 people in it..
[04:32] <ScottK> I can understand that, but it doesn't make this the right place to get support.
[04:32] <ScottK> Not a huge deal this time of day, but it's also unlikely anyone here can help.
[04:33] <KrystallKitt> Ah, mmk, thanks anyhow
[04:43] <lukehasnoname> haha
[04:46] <ScottK> What?
[05:05] <lukehasnoname> The guy looking for FoF help here
[05:20] <lukehasnoname> who else here buys linux magazines monthly?
[05:23] <[Solars]> havden't for a long time
[05:25] <rebel_kid> does the ubuntu server have trouble in virtbox?
[05:31] <SteckelBud> wow--udev 117-8 is killing my system. Anytime I try to copy files it fills up to 100% and I can't do anything--ideas!?
[05:34] <[Solars]> rebel_kid dunno why you would run server inside of VBox but the people in #vbox can help
[05:36] <rebel_kid> to run the server on my desktop (lightweight development server)
[05:36] <rebel_kid> so if i f*** everything up (which i definatly will at least once) it only effects the virt box lol
[06:37] <lukehasnoname> Why would finch require sound
[06:37] <lukehasnoname> it's a console IM client, right?
[08:37] <ivoks> oh, i can confirm this bug
[08:46] <kraut> moin
[09:19] <[Solars]> ivoks can you look over my dhcpd.conf to see if i miss anything i need to fix
[09:20] <[Solars]> http://pastebin.com/m411cf711
[13:45] <bogey-> Does anyone have a problem with Ubuntu on VMware that involves not being able to log in after the server has been online for a couple of hours?
[13:47] <brousch> bogey- i have several servers running on vmware with no problems. can you be more specific about your ubuntu and vmware versions?
[13:47] <bogey-> Ubuntu 8.04.1 on Vmware 1.07
[13:48] <bogey-> I am using Squid 2 and it seems that after a few hours the server stops responding
[13:57] <bogey-> Now thats over
[13:57] <bogey-> Does anyone have a problem with Ubuntu on VMware that involves not being able to log in after the server has been online for a couple of hours? I am using Ubuntu 8.04.1 server, text only mode. I am using VMWare 1.07. I am using the server primarliy for Squid 2 from the ubuntu repo. The server seems to freeze or unable to respond to requests from any service. No logins, No squid, No www, etc.....
[13:58] <ivoks_> bogey-: i do
[13:58] <ivoks_> bogey-: but i figured out that's cause of dlink router/switch
[13:58] <bogey-> ivoks_: have you been able to figure this out?
[13:58] <bogey-> oh, nm :(
[13:58] <bogey-> it doesnt even respond through the vmware console
[13:59] <ivoks_> right
[13:59] <bogey-> Lets you put in a user/pass and just stops
[13:59] <ivoks_> but it is working
[13:59] <bogey-> ivoks_: naw, it just stops after you put in a password.
[13:59] <ivoks_> but once you plug in keyboard and log in, run some network tools (like apt-get update), it's available from network again
[14:00] <ivoks_> bogey-: server is working, but my router doesn't allow connections to it
[14:00] <ivoks_> bogey-: i guess it's puzzeld by different MAC's on same port
[14:00] <bogey-> ivoks_: thats what i was just about to say
[14:01] <bogey-> ivoks_: dont use bridged networking, use NAT and those cheap store and forwards start working right.
[14:01] <ivoks_> that's my plan, but i needed bridge at this point
[14:02] <bogey-> brb, coffee time
[14:11] <ivoks_> zul: ping
[14:11] <zul> ivoks: yo
[14:11] <ivoks> he's alive! :)
[14:11] <ivoks> i've fixed that drbd thing
[14:11] <zul> yeah its monday morning but barely ;)
[14:11] <zul> yeah I saw
[14:11] <ivoks> could you review the package?
[14:11] <zul> sure
[14:12] <ivoks> you could just grab it from my ppa and remove last changelog entry
[14:12] <ivoks> it was there cause ppa doesn't accept same version upload
[14:12] <zul> was the fix in the kernel source or in drbd?
[14:12] <ivoks> drbd
[14:12] <zul> coolio
[14:12] <ivoks> one liner :)
[14:12] <zul> you serious?
[14:12] <ivoks> yes
[14:12] <ivoks> you'll see changelog :)
[14:12] <zul> meh...
[14:13] <zul> ill get an ffe for it as well
[14:13] <ivoks> zul: current status is unusable and dangerous
[14:13] <zul> huh?
[14:13] <zul> oh the one we have in the archive :)
[14:13] <ivoks> right
[14:14] <ivoks> cause it's gogin to try communicating with vesa driver, not drbd :)
[14:14] <ivoks> going ... s/vesa/some frame buffer module/
[14:14] <zul> heh
[14:17] <ivoks> i've actually sent the patch to upstream
[14:17] <ivoks> they were shocked :D
[14:18] <zul> good job!
[14:24] <bogey-> Does anyone have a problem with Ubuntu on VMware that involves not being able to log in after the server has been online for a couple of hours? I am using Ubuntu 8.04.1 server, text only mode. I am using VMWare 1.07. I am using the server primarliy for Squid 2 from the ubuntu repo. The server seems to freeze or unable to respond to requests from any service. No logins, No squid, No www, etc.....
[15:13] <luckyone> hello everyone
[15:13] <luckyone> would someone mind talking with me about partitions and lvm
[15:17] <ivoks> shoot
[15:21] <luckyone> ivoks: I am just trying to make sure that I know what I am doing... because I run ubuntu at home, I am the 'linux expert' at work by default
[15:22] <luckyone> essentially, we have a linux server and we need to add some disk space
[15:22] <luckyone> so we had our IT staff allocate some additional space to the virtual machine
[15:22] <luckyone> I need to get that additional space added to the logical volume
[15:23] <luckyone> my thoughts are that I first need to extend the partition with something like ext2online
[15:24] <ivoks> you have to add pv first
[15:24] <ivoks> then extend volume group
[15:24] <ivoks> and then logic volume
[15:24] <ivoks> after that you can extend ext2
[15:24] <ivoks> or ext3
[15:24] <ivoks> or xfs :)
[15:24] <luckyone> I *think* the pv is already there
[15:24] <luckyone> /dev/sda
[15:25] <ivoks> you already have LVM set up, right?
[15:25] <luckyone> it is a vm, so they just said, instead of 15GB, here is 18
[15:25] <luckyone> ivoks: yes
[15:25] <ivoks> luckyone: so, it's not additional disk, but you've expanded virtual disk?
[15:26] <luckyone> ivoks: correc
[15:27] <luckyone> ivoks: still just /dev/sda
[15:27] <ivoks> luckyone: run pvdisplay
[15:27] <ivoks> luckyone: there should be only /dev/sdaX
[15:28] <ivoks> or whole /dev/sda
[15:28] <luckyone> shows /dev/sda2
[15:28] <ivoks> and it's size?
[15:28] <luckyone> 14.9GB
[15:29] <ivoks> this is not expanded size, right?
[15:29] <luckyone> correct
[15:29] <ivoks> fdisk -l /dev/sda
[15:30] <ivoks> does it show additional space at the end?
[15:30] <luckyone> no
[15:30] <ivoks> hm...
[15:30] <luckyone> maybe
[15:30] <luckyone> /dev/sda1 1 - 13
[15:30] <luckyone> /dev/sda2 14 - 1958
[15:31] <luckyone> it shows /dev/sda as being 19.3 GB though
[15:32] <ivoks> pvresize should be your friend
[15:32] <ivoks> umount partition first
[15:32] <ivoks> backup all data :D
[15:34] <luckyone> so if I unmount and pvresize, it will automatically extend the pv and add it to the lv?
[15:34] <ivoks> no
[15:34] <ivoks> it will just expand pv
[15:34] <ivoks> then you have to expand vg
[15:34] <ivoks> and after that lv
[15:34] <luckyone> I guess can you explain the process, I am opening man pages now
[15:35] <ivoks> at the end, you have to extend filesystem
[15:35] <ivoks> lv is part of vg, while vg is on top of pv
[15:36] <luckyone> pvresize says you currently see this physical volume as 15GB, it is actually 18GB
[15:36] <ivoks> then resize it to 18G
[15:36] <ivoks> backup data first!
[15:36] <luckyone> hehe, we had them take a snapshot
[15:37] <ivoks> expanding isn't that painfull... a week ago i resized 120Gb to 20GB :)
[15:37] <luckyone> yikes!
[15:37] <luckyone> I am not going to do it until 1) I understand it or 2) after 11:00 CDT, whichever is later
[15:38] <luckyone> but the process is 1) run pvresize to tell the physical volume how big it is
[15:38] <ivoks> well, which part you don't understand now?
[15:38] <luckyone> 2) add the additional space to the vg?
[15:39] <luckyone> 3) extend the partition?
[15:39] <ivoks> vgextend
[15:39] <luckyone> is that right at a high level?
[15:39] <ivoks> that's bellow logic volume
[15:39] <ivoks> and bellow volume group is physical volume
[15:40] <ivoks> on top of logic volume is filesystem
[15:40] <ivoks> so, if you are exanding:
[15:40] <ivoks> pv -> vg -> lv -> fs
[15:40] <ivoks> if you are reducing:
[15:40] <ivoks> fs -> lv -> vg -> pv
[15:42] <ivoks> filesystem can be only on one logic volume
[15:42] <ivoks> logic volume can be only from one logic group
[15:42] <ivoks> logic group can be on multiple physical volumes
[15:43] <ivoks> there can be multiple logic volumes in volume group and there can be multiple volume groups on physical volumes
[15:43] <luckyone> gotcha
[15:43] <ivoks> so, it's quite easy
[15:43] <luckyone> so, it doesn't make sense to try and run ext2online on something that doesn't even 'belong' to the pv yet
[15:45] <ivoks> correct
[15:45] <ivoks> you can't extend filesystem if lv isn't bigger
[15:45] <ivoks> you have to extend lv before that
[15:45] <luckyone> ok, resize the pv, extend the lv, extend partition
[15:46] <ivoks> and before extending lv, there needs to be room in vg
[15:46] <ivoks> to get room in vg, extend pv first, and then vg
[15:46] <ivoks> pv vg lv
[15:46] <luckyone> pvresize, vgextend, lvextend, ext2online (or fdisk)
[15:46] <ivoks> right
[15:47] <ivoks> just go for it
[15:48] <luckyone> haha, what could I possibly screw up?
[15:48] <luckyone> I have a backup!
[15:48] <ivoks> right
[15:49] <luckyone> ivoks: thanks for the help
[15:49] <ivoks> np
[15:49] <luckyone> ivoks: if you are still on when I do this in an hour or two, I may ping you...
[15:50] <luckyone> :)
[15:50] <ivoks> do it now
[15:50] <luckyone> not now, one of my associates is using that box for a demo
[15:50] <ivoks> who cares
[15:50] <ivoks> now! :D
[15:50] <luckyone> it is one of our peoplesoft demo boxes
[15:51] <ivoks> ah... marketing... kills all the fun in software
[15:51] <luckyone> lol
[16:02] <frame45> does anyone know if you can put Ubuntu on a LaCie ethernet disk, like you can the Linksys NSLU2 (slug)
[16:10] <zul> mathiaz: ping
[16:10] <mathiaz> zul: ouch
[16:11] <zul> mathiaz: slangasek refreshed the patches Ill try to work in samba-3.2.4 this week
[16:11] <mathiaz> zul: great
[16:17] <Koon> zul: about samba, any success in reproducing bug 260687 ?
[16:18] <zul> Koon: not yet
[16:21] <Koon> zul: also about bug 277447, let me know what option we should pursue : try to get rc11-1 in or prepare a fix for just the issue. My guess is that there are plenty of useful fixes for bugs we'll hit anyway... but changes in rc10 are quite extensive
[16:26] <mathiaz> Koon: are there new features in rc10 ?
[16:27] <mathiaz> Koon: if they're mainly bug fixes we don't necessarly require a FFexception.
[16:27] <Koon> mathiaz: there are new configuration options
[16:27] <Koon> mostly driven as bug fix complements
[16:28] <Koon> mathiaz: check out http://openvpn.net/index.php/documentation/change-log/changelog-21.html
[17:36] <monteslu> anyone have luck with a "RAID bus controller: Dell PowerEdge Expandable RAID controller 5" ?
[17:59] <[Solars]> where should i start looking for an answer for this
[18:00] <[Solars]> Oct 6 07:45:08 hel dhclient: DHCPREQUEST of <null address> on eth0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67
[18:00] <[Solars]> Oct 6 07:45:46 hel last message repeated 3 times
[18:00] <[Solars]> Oct 6 07:46:59 hel last message repeated 6 times
[18:00] <[Solars]> got a ton of entries like
[18:00] <[Solars]> lots of repeats
[18:01] <[Solars]> thats in the syslog file
[18:02] <[Solars]> i am unable to ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:03] <[Solars]> nothing shows drake@hel:/srv/media$ nano /var/lib/dhcp3/dhcpd.leases
[18:03] <[Solars]> for that address
[18:04] <[Solars]> i physically check each network device and find nothing
[18:05] <Fenix|work> Greetings...
[18:05] <Fenix|work> I'm having some difficulties with sarg-reports on my server
[18:05] <[Solars]> thik its a bootp device? in my dhcpd.config file i have it to deny bootp devices
[18:06] <Fenix|work> sarg-reports today works like a champ, but sarg-reports daily (or weekly and monthly) exit fine, but don't actually generate reports of any kind
[18:08] <stainer> Solars: I read something about maybe an extra step for Windows devices... something about a WINS server, or something
[18:10] <[Solars]> erm i don't have another server here
[18:11] <Fenix|work> [Solars], what's the problem?  I only caught the very tail-end of your info
[18:11] <[Solars]> it has litereally fills up the entire syslog (many hours)
[18:11] <[Solars]> i got soemthing on my network thats
[18:11] <[Solars]> repeating
[18:11] <[Solars]> Oct 6 08:00:20 hel dhclient: DHCPREQUEST of <null address> on eth0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67
[18:12] <[Solars]> multiple times per sec
[18:12] <[Solars]> (its not doing it right now it appears)
[18:12] <[Solars]> but no address exsist on the network
[18:12] <[Solars]> nothing in dhcpd.leases
[18:12] <[Solars]> can't ping it
[18:12] <[Solars]> and can't account for that address
[18:13] <[Solars]> but is in the dhcpd pool
[18:13] <brousch> could be a virtual machine on NAT?
[18:13] <[Solars]> NAT is taken care by the router
[18:13] <[Solars]> from the isp
[18:14] <[Solars]> and no virtual machines running
[18:14] <Fenix|work> and we're talking about dhclient.leases right?
[18:14] <[Solars]> heh yea
[18:14] <[Solars]> sorry about that
[18:14] <[Solars]> trying to find whats flooding the dhcpd
[18:15] <[Solars]> for a request
[18:15] <Fenix|work> [Solars], hehe... I believe it's a bug in DHCP3
[18:16] <[Solars]> is there a work around/fix for that
[18:16] <Fenix|work> when you see DHCPREQUEST of <null address> what you're actually seeing is a client renewing it's IP address.  you only see an IP where null address when it's a new client looking for a new IP
[18:17] <Fenix|work> It's not really a bug per-se ...
[18:17] <Fenix|work> ... turn down debugging logging for dhclient
[18:18] <[Solars]> strange
[18:18] <[Solars]> i only have 4 computers online last night
[18:18] <[Solars]> and i was getting hundred if not thousands of requests
[18:18] <Fenix|work> what's the default lease time?
[18:19] <[Solars]> 12 hours and 24 hours
[18:19] <[Solars]> 12 hour min 24 hours max
[18:19] <Fenix|work> you know how dhcp renewals work?
[18:20] <[Solars]> computer sends request to network (broadcast), the server responds I am here (handshakes), etc etc
[18:20] <Fenix|work> each client trys to renew it's lease halfway through it's lease period
[18:20] <Fenix|work> so yours is 12 hours lease
[18:20] <Fenix|work> so every six hours it requests to re-lease the address
[18:21] <[Solars]> erm when i had the lease times lwoer
[18:21] <[Solars]> to like 5 mins (when i was setting up)
[18:21] <Fenix|work> if it doesn't get a response it tries again in 3 hours, then 1.5 hours, then in .75 hours, and so on and so forth... until it gets small and the lease expires.
[18:21] <[Solars]> it did not show "DHCPREQUEST of <null address>"
[18:21] <[Solars]> no lease renewed
[18:22] <[Solars]> no devices on my network as that ipaddress either
[18:22] <Fenix|work> wierd
[18:23] <[Solars]> i been tail -f the syslog all night
[18:23] <[Solars]> and i have a ton of requests
[18:24] <luckyone> i am about to attempt to add disk space to a logical volume, can anyone help me?
[18:25] <[Solars]> also have a ton of these
[18:25] <[Solars]> Oct 6 11:30:53 hel dhclient: DHCPREQUEST of <null address> on eth0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67
[18:25] <[Solars]> Oct 6 11:30:53 hel dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for <IP_ADDRESS> from 00:1a:4d:45:a6:7f via eth0
[18:25] <[Solars]> bah i need to start using pastebin
[18:25] <luckyone> the process I discussed earlier was using pvresize, vgextend, lvextend, and ext2online
[18:25] <[Solars]> raid or no raid?
[18:25] <luckyone> non-raid
[18:26] <[Solars]> can't help you on that subject, sorry
[18:33] <[Solars]> erm i think i found the problem but not sure how to fix it
[18:34] <[Solars]> in the dhcpd.conf i setup so the server itself will get a static address, when request it self for a ip address....(not sure if thats a good or soso idea)
[18:34] <[Solars]> but anyways i restarted dhcpd3
[18:34] <[Solars]> now i am getting flooded with acks and requests
[18:35] <[Solars]> from the server ip address
[18:37] <[Solars]> so i am going to try and just restart the /etc/init.d/network
[18:39] <Fenix|work> is there any way to have logrotate exclude a set of logs?
[18:39] <Fenix|work> or have a different schedule for a different set of logs?
[18:40] <[Solars]> yea
[18:40] <[Solars]> there are some examples in 'man logrotate
[18:40] <[Solars]> '
[18:40] <trashguy> YEEEEOOOW
[18:41] <[Solars]> trashguy!
[18:41] <trashguy> what up
[18:42] <Fenix|work> ok... I now know fully what's going on
[18:43] <Fenix|work> Any devs here attached to the sarg package?
[18:43] <Fenix|work> or maintainers :)
[18:44] <Fenix|work> or squid people :)
[18:49] <Fenix|work> [Solars], if I want to concatenate the log files together
[18:49] <Fenix|work> .log.2 is the oldest, followed by .log.1 then .log correct ?
[18:49] <trashguy> i dont typically do that
[18:50] <trashguy> because there is a reaosn they are broken down
[18:50] <trashguy> they get to big
[18:50] <trashguy> and searching is a pain in the ass
[18:50] <Fenix|work> trashguy, I agree, they do get big
[18:50] <luckyone> can anyone in here help me add disk space to my lvm?
[18:50] <trashguy> my webserver logs get in to the gigs
[18:50] <Fenix|work> but when logrotate runs daily and I need to generate montly reports on a set of logs, I can't get monthly reports cus a month doesn't exist :)
[18:51] <luckyone> I have a vm that our IT staff added disk space to, but i don't know how to make that usable (add it to the lvm)
[18:51] <luckyone> I tried to run pvresize to add the additional space to the physical volume, but it didn't do anything
[18:53] <[Solars]> Fenix|work then why not just do a monthly rotate?
[18:53] <Fenix|work> I am
[18:53] <[Solars]> if thats what you need
[18:53] <Fenix|work> There's a misconfiguration in the logrotate.d/squid file
[18:53] <Fenix|work> and I need to find out more how sarg-report works
[18:54] <[Solars]> erm okay dunno what to say then sorry
[18:55] <Fenix|work> more specifically sarg, since it appears sarg-reports is a kind of wrapper that simplifies running reports with sarg
[18:56] <rrittenhouse> I just updated my feisty (desktop) server last week and now i'm having problems with the networking. If i SSH and port forward I can't connect to "Remote Desktop" (VNC). Is this a known problem? It also seems that I can't VNC into it at all.
[18:56] <rrittenhouse> I was using firestarter to block connections to all but SSH before this happened but I have to start firestarter up everytime i want it
[18:57] <r00tintheb0x> hello all.
[18:57] <r00tintheb0x> Im trying to set up a BIND server... for internal use.
[18:58] <r00tintheb0x> I had to move our domain controller from our DC here to a co-lo during hurricane ike.
[18:58] <r00tintheb0x> Big pain, DHCP relay isnt working over a VPN tunnel between the two locations.
[18:58] <r00tintheb0x> So im trying to relay get dhcp to work on this new ubuntu server i put up and get all my internal names off the old win2k3 ad server.
[18:58] <r00tintheb0x> Any magic commands?
[19:23] <cyris|> hey everyone. every time i sudo apt-get install package i get the following error. sudo: unable to resolve host s142-179-206-147.ab.hsia.telus.net. this is what my /etc/hosts file looks like. Any ideas ? thanks http://rafb.net/p/Lo4foa84.html
[19:25] <ivoks> and what's your hostname?
[19:25] <cyris|> s142-179-206-147.ab.hsia.telus.net
[19:25] <ivoks> that's your hostname? :)
[19:25] <ivoks> is that dynamic or static ip?
[19:26] <cyris|> static, but my isp doesn't support hardcoding of ips so i have to use dhcp to grab it.
[19:26] <r00tintheb0x> I got it.
[19:26] <ivoks> what does this return:
[19:27] <r00tintheb0x> My problem at least.
[19:27] <ivoks> nslookup s142-179-206-147.ab.hsia.telus.net
[19:27] <ivoks> is it resolvable?
[19:27] <r00tintheb0x> Hey guys, how can I reconfigure my network via dpkg ?
[19:27] <r00tintheb0x> dpkg-reconfigure networking isnt working
[19:27] <r00tintheb0x> heh
[19:27] <ivoks> r00tintheb0x: dpkg can't configure your network
[19:28] <cyris|> ivoks: doesn't seem to :/ user@s142-179-206-147:~$ nslookup s142-179-206-147.ab.hsia.telus.net
[19:28] <cyris|> Server:         <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:28] <cyris|> Address:        <IP_ADDRESS>#53
[19:28] <cyris|> ** server can't find s142-179-206-147.ab.hsia.telus.net: NXDOMAIN
[19:28] <cyris|> opps
[19:28] <cyris|> my bad im sorry
[19:28] <ivoks> cyris|: no need to paste
[19:28] <cyris|> http://rafb.net/p/RfUixx31.html
[19:28] <ivoks> cyris|: well, that's your problem
[19:29] <ivoks> your DNS doesn't know anything about that hostname
[19:29] <ivoks> cyris|: why don't you use some normal names like 'mysuperserver'
[19:29] <ivoks> ?
[19:30] <cyris|> this particular box is using my ISP's dns servers
[19:30] <ivoks> cyris|: so what...
[19:31] <ivoks> cyris|: you could call your server 'twingo'
[19:31] <ivoks> cyris|: and add twingo in hosts, as an alias for <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:32] <r00tintheb0x> Okay, ivoks should I just manually edit /etc/network* to reflect the changes I want?
[19:32] <ivoks> r00tintheb0x: after you edit it, restart networking /etc/init.d/networking restart
[19:33] <r00tintheb0x> Okay, thanks.
[19:33] <ivoks> r00tintheb0x: be sure not to make any mistakes :)
[19:33] <r00tintheb0x> hehe, yeah. the server is local so it wont be too bad.
[19:34] <ivoks> r00tintheb0x: if you fsck up, use ipmi to fix it :)
[19:34] <r00tintheb0x> ipmi?
[19:34] <ivoks> if your server supports it, of course
[19:34] <ivoks> lots of servers support ipmi, and their owners don't know that
[19:34] <ivoks> and that thing makes live so much easier :)
[19:35] <ivoks> life
[19:35] <r00tintheb0x> I see.
[19:40] <Fenix|work> How do I go about verifying a bug in launchpad?
[19:40] <ivoks> click on 'New' and select 'Confirmed'
[19:49] <webtech_m33> hello.. i am looking for a how to, to rebuild a .deb package
[19:50] <webtech_m33> i dpkg-buildpackage and created a new .deb file
[19:50] <ivoks> webtech_m33: #ubuntu-motu would be a better place for those kind of questions
[19:50] <webtech_m33> mmk
[20:11] <cyris|> ivoks: sorry i had to jet their for a sec. my only problem is that I need to use a hostname for this machine thats resolvable publicly.
[20:11] <ivoks> i don't see why you should have to do that
[20:14] <cyris|> ivoks: maybe i dont :/ zimbra is complaining that my hostname isn't resolvable with my dns servers. i'm gonna just alias a hostname like you said and see what happens
[20:15] <ivoks> cyris|: set up nice, normal hostname
[20:15] <ivoks> cyris|: add that hostname as an alias for <IP_ADDRESS> and problem sloved
[20:15] <cyris|> so i added an entry into /etc/hosts with <IP_ADDRESS> london and edited /etc/hostname with london.
[20:16] <cyris|> ivoks: is that correct?
[20:16] <ivoks> yes
[20:17] <[Solars]> ivoks by chance you ever get a chance to look at my dhcpd3.config file>
[20:17] <ivoks> i'm not the only one around here :D
[20:17] <[Solars]> but your the most spoken one :P
[20:18] <ivoks> [Solars]: iirc, it looked ok
[20:19] <[Solars]> erm how to restart python or kill python threads
[20:19] <[Solars]> ivoks thats good to hear
[20:20] <[Solars]> first time in years i made one of those config's
[20:20] <cyris|> ivoks: I must be setting up my /etc/hosts file incorrectly, or zimbra's installer is picky. check this out. http://rafb.net/p/X4HsNt33.html
[20:22] <ivoks> cyris|: like this:
[20:22] <ivoks> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost london
[20:22] <ivoks> one line
[20:22] <cyris|> ivoks: err sorry!
[20:25] <[Solars]> erm whats the command to list current threads/
[20:27] <cyris|> ivoks: ah ok i gotcha. i question tho. is that 2 alias's then ? it was my impression that the order was IP,hostname,alias
[20:27] <cyris|> a question*
[20:27] <ivoks> cyris|: you can have numerus aliases
[20:27] <cyris|> ivoks: ok
[20:37] <RediXe> sudo setfacl -dm g:mygroup:rwx /mnt/common/    permission denied any idea's?
[20:39] <ivoks> mounted with acl?
[20:40] <ivoks> i would really love to see 9.04 with acl by default
[20:43] <RediXe> ivoks: sshfs#steven@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/common/ /mnt/colossus/common/ fuse,acl user 0 0 is in my fstab
[20:44] <RediXe> Not sure if the acl is supposed to be there or after user
[20:44] <ivoks> sshfs supports acl?
[20:44] <ivoks> i kind of doubt that
[20:45] <RediXe> No idea
[20:45] <ivoks> well, you'll need server supporting acl if you want to set up acl on it's directory
[20:46] <RediXe> sshfs is the way we are mounting network drive for the users and we are running into the issue of when a new file is created on the directory they permissions are wrong and we are running chown and chmod to get them working again
[20:47] <RediXe> That's getting to be a pain to do everytime
[20:47] <ivoks> i know
[20:47] <ivoks> that's why i said; ACL would be great by default
[20:47] <RediXe> ivoks: :P This is the first time I have ever used it
[20:47] <ivoks> if you want to use it now, you'll have to setup ACL on the server's filesystem, not on the client
[20:48] <RediXe> well I have ACL installed on the server I just don't have anything set up on it
[20:48] <ivoks> you are mounting server's directory, which is probably on a filesystem that isn't mounted with acl
[20:48] <ivoks> RediXe: check the mounted filesystem
[20:48] <RediXe> Ahhh
[20:49] <RediXe> ivoks: There an easy to see them or just look to see what fstab is mounting?
[20:50] <ivoks> mount [mount point] -o remount,acl
[20:50] <ivoks> ah... to see
[20:50] <ivoks> run 'mount'
[20:50] <ivoks> that will give you an answer
[20:50] <RediXe> nothing with acl
[20:51] <ivoks> there you go, that's the problem
[20:51] <RediXe> so would I set the acl on the ext3 fs?
[20:51] <RediXe> guided - entire disk
[20:51] <RediXe> no special partition done
[20:52] <ivoks> if you want, go ahead
[20:52] <RediXe> well I'm assuming the ext3 is where all the home directories are stored
[20:52] <ivoks> ext3 is filesystem
[20:53] <ivoks> partition is where your home directories are
[20:53] <ivoks> partition can be ext2, ext3, xfs, jfs, reiser...
[20:54] <RediXe> mount /dev/sda1 -o remount,acl will add the option to the list I assume?
[20:54] <ivoks> it won't add it to fstab, just to current situation
[20:54] <RediXe> Cool
[20:54] <ivoks> you'll have to edit fstab if you want preserve that during reboots
[20:55] <ivoks> not /dev/sda1
[20:55] <ivoks> mount point
[20:55] <ivoks> like - /
[20:55] <cyris|> ivoks: thank you very much for helping me with my hostname problems. everything seems to be working.
[20:55] <ivoks> cyris|: np
[21:18] <RediXe> ivoks: Thanks! It seems to be working except for the client I was testing with. It is showing d??????????? ? ? ? ?                      ? common and same for finance directory. These are the mount points for sshfs. Any idea's? I tried to chmod them with sudo but permission denied still
[21:19] <ivoks> i didn't understand those ?????
[21:19] <ivoks> common and finance are dirs?
[21:20] <RediXe> yes
[21:20] <RediXe> on the clients machine I do ls -l and i see "d????????? ? ? ? ?                ? common" and the same for the finance
[21:21] <ivoks> it can't read permissions for some reason
[21:21] <RediXe> I tried to run the setfacl -b /mnt/colossus/common but I get permission denied
[21:23] <ivoks> RediXe: i never used sshfs, so i don't know what could've happend
[21:24] <RediXe> ivoks: Anyway to force remove the directories and I can just recreate them? They're just mount points? ... let me try to umount them and see if that helps (not even sure if they are mounted cuz I can cd into them and forgot to check mount) :P
[21:24] <RediXe> ivoks: Yeah, they're mounted so that might be why I'm having some trouble.
[21:32] <RediXe> ivoks: Alright, I think we're good on that issue. Do you know if ACL can auto set the new files and directories to 770 and to a specific group?
[21:32] <ivoks> i think it's -R
[21:32] <ivoks> or -d
[21:32] <ivoks> default
[21:34] <RediXe> sudo setfacl -dm g:finance:rwx /home/finance ..... this is what I have ran but when they create a new directory the group is not being set to finance
[22:26] <jdstrand> lamont: I finally did the SRU for bug #279316
[22:26] <jdstrand> lamont: hi btw :)
[22:27] <jdstrand> lamont: can you comment on its regression potential (the P2 part, not the sgchase or apparmor parts)
[22:27] <jdstrand> ?
[22:28] <jdstrand> lamont: also, I noticed that we went from libisc32 to libisc35, but it looks like only bind9 binaries use it-- can you mention that as well?
[22:35] <lamont> jdstrand: will do so in a bit.
[22:36] <jdstrand> lamont: thanks-- I took the liberty of subscribing you and dejeuren as well
[23:12] <[Solars]> holy cow,
[23:14] <[Solars]> now it seems i have another problem
[23:15] <[Solars]> gettting "Connection Interrupted" while trying to surf the web
[23:16] <[Solars]> it looks up the address, then says "waiting for website.url.com"
[23:17] <[Solars]> i can ping said servers
[23:18] <[Solars]> just seems as if http is being blocked
[23:19] <[Solars]> no clue if its my server causing the problem or my isp
[23:21] <[Solars]> any idea what files/logs i should check on my server?
[23:22] <[Solars]> i can access internal http pages
[23:27] <[Solars]> nslookup works
[23:28] <trashguy> ?
[23:28] <trashguy> whats going on [Solars]
[23:28] <[Solars]> its strangs
[23:28] <[Solars]> I can't access 'outside' internet
[23:29] <[Solars]> while intranet works
[23:29] <[Solars]> i can ping the outside, i use the DNS from the outside
[23:29] <[Solars]> but when 'surfing' i get interrupt page
[23:45] <trashguy> stop hitting esc kep