[06:40] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: then,      Identifier     "NVIDIA Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 420 Go 32M] "
[06:41] <wweasel> door: 10 lives in /usr and 12 lives in /usr/local
[06:41] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: only without a line break
[06:41] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: and substituting your card
[06:41] <secleinteer> i've already got that libxine thing btw
[06:41] <wweasel> door: How do I tell libmtp, the application that depends on 12, to use the one in /usr/local?
[06:41] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: and keeping the spacing the same as in the rest of the file
[06:41] <MystaMax> Dev05, I get an error stating, "The folder contents could not be displayed. Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "media"."
[06:41] <jamesstansell> secleinteer: libxine-extracodecs was listed in RestrictedFormats with Kaffeine, codeine and mplayer
[06:42] <door> wweasel: hmmmm...i'm not sure. try ./configure --help
[06:42] <fishy> How do I kill a program running in WINE?
[06:42] <Dev05> MystaMax, Can you ping your Windows box?
[06:43] <Dev05> fishy, just like you kill any other app.
[06:43] <fishy> Dev05: What process is it?
[06:43] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: the next line should be spaced exactly the same and say
[06:43] <secleinteer> yeah, well that wasn't the problem
[06:43] <jamesstansell> fishy: if nothing else you can kill the wine processes
[06:43] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: Driver "nv"
[06:43] <Dev05> fishy, in a console type: ps aux
[06:43] <Dev05> fishy, then find it :)
[06:43] <secleinteer> btw, i install ubuntu on another computer, and everything works just fine
[06:43] <BNOsaosin-tux> door: done both
[06:43] <secleinteer> maybe it's because kubuntu's missing something?
[06:43] <azureal> fishy, combine ps aux with grep
[06:44] <MystaMax> Dev05, checkin...
[06:44] <JKoder> please help me with my kernel !!!! i need to downgrade because my PC is not fully functional
[06:44] <JKoder> network lags and sound to :(
[06:44] <NickGarvey> JKoder: what do you mean?
[06:44] <jamesstansell> secleinteer: maybe - have you tried in #kubuntu or the kubuntu forums?
[06:44] <JKoder> after boot i need 10 minutes for network to be functional
[06:44] <K-tron> Dev05, I'll check... I do know that if I try to mount the drive (/dev/sda) it says the drive is busy, and it is not already mounted, if that is telling...
[06:44] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: cool...i'm not sure what to put for BusID...
[06:45] <MystaMax> Dev05, yes i can ping via IP, but not hostname.
[06:45] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: what did it say on that line for your old one?
[06:45] <BNOsaosin-tux> door: how do i find out haha>
[06:45] <K-tron> link Ktron
[06:45] <BNOsaosin-tux> pci:0:5:0
[06:45] <linux__alien> could some one here be kind enough to help me out please?
[06:45] <fishy> Dev05: There's nothing in there related to WINE at all. I killed "wineserver" and "wine-preloader," to no effect.
[06:45] <jamesstansell> interesting - I never heard of http://kubuntuforums.net/ before
[06:45] <secleinteer> k i'll try that
[06:45] <azureal> !ask > linux__alien
[06:45] <Dev05> MystaMax, I don't know how it works for Samba, but I guess it should resolve the windowsbox name...
[06:46] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: ok...just for the heck of it let's try what it says in mine:  "PCI:1:0:0"
[06:46] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: then insert a line that just says EndSection
[06:46] <MystaMax> ok, Dev05 thanks for the help.
[06:46] <BNOsaosin-tux> door: done
[06:46] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: then reboot and see what happens
[06:47] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: cross your fingers! good luck1
[06:47] <door> !
[06:47] <Dev05> MystaMax, But I couldn't help :(
[06:47] <BNOsaosin-tux> ok....ill be back hopefully in xchat
[06:47] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: coolbeans!
[06:47] <MystaMax> Dev05, you pointed me in the right direction, I'll start searching the net for a solution :)
[06:47] <jamesstansell> fishy: did wineserver exit, or is it possibly still running?
[06:47] <linux__alien> azureal, I am using pppoeconf to connect to the internet . i get connected to the internet but after some minutes my resolv.conf gets updated automatically so hence to prevent that i modified the interface file. I removed the auto keyword before the eth0 interface and then it was working fine but my Local loop back interface didnt come up now i dont know what to do . I ve reverted back all my changes in the interface file. could you help me to solve
[06:47] <linux__alien>  this please?
[06:47] <Dev05> MystaMax, I hope I did :)
[06:47] <fishy> jamesstansell: It says "defunct" next to it
[06:47] <Dev05> MystaMax, Oh, idea!
[06:48] <MystaMax> Dev05, ok
[06:48] <Ayano> Okay, I have a linksys ap with 64 bit hex encryption, and a linksys pcmcia card...  how do I get it to see my ap?
[06:48] <Dev05> fishy, the path in ps -aux should look like /home/<your user name here>/.wine/whatever Kill that one
[06:48] <linux__alien> azureal, i ve an entry in the dsl-provider file called usepeerDNS. Now i ve commented that out. So will this solve the problem?
[06:48] <jamesstansell> fishy: that means that parent process hasn't fetched the exit status yet
[06:49] <Dev05> MystaMax, I think you have to create and Alias, say IP <IP_ADDRESS> maps to name "whatever". I hope that would do it.
[06:49] <jamesstansell> fishy: what process goes with the ppid for wineserver?
[06:49] <Dev05> MystaMax, Now's there's a problem. I don't know how to do that on Ubuntu, so please, let me check.
[06:50] <fishy> jamesstansell: 5211
[06:50] <K-tron> Dev05-- if you mean goes the drive show up in 'Computer - File Browser' in Gnome, it does, however it can't be mounted
[06:50] <azureal> linux__alien, I'm not familiar with this problem...hopefully someone else on the channel can help you
[06:50] <linux__alien> azureal, you there?
[06:50] <linux__alien> azureal, No one here is helping me out :-(
[06:50] <Dev05> K-tron, And the reason is because is "busy"?
[06:50] <fishy> What's 5211?
[06:50] <jamesstansell> fishy: ps -p 5211
[06:51] <wick2o> hello, anyone still up? I'm tring to find a way to use proftpd to convert all uploaded files to a specific username and group
[06:51] <wick2o> has anyone acomplished this?
[06:51] <MystaMax> Dev05, i think its in the hosts file
[06:51] <ant> door: im in CLI heaven :(
[06:51] <Dev05> MystaMax, Yeah, do this:
[06:51] <door> ant: oh dear. what did you do?
[06:51] <fishy> jamesstansell: 5211 ?        00:01:38 wine-preloader <defunct>
[06:52] <ant> door: me = BNO btw
[06:52] <K-tron> Dev05-- sorry, that's what happens if I try 'sudo mount /dev/sda dirname'... I forgot I should be trying 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 dirname', and that worked
[06:52] <door> ant: oh!
[06:52] <ant> door: dont think that PCI setting was correct
[06:52] <JKoder> and soud is like uuubbbuuunnnttttuuuu
[06:52] <JKoder> with ubuntu 6.06 ( kernel <IP_ADDRESS> ) everithing was ok
[06:52] <JKoder> but with ubuntu 6.06.1 (kernel <IP_ADDRESS> ) no :(
[06:52] <jamesstansell> fishy: ok what's parent of 5211?
[06:52] <Dev05> K-tron, Oh.
[06:52] <JKoder>
[06:52] <door> ant: crap. did you get an error message?
[06:52] <BNOsaosin-tux> door: yeah, it said xserver was not set up correctly
[06:52] <fishy> jamesstansell: I have no Idea.
[06:52] <fishy> *idea
[06:53] <K-tron> Dev05-- so it looks like it detects the hard drive correctly... Any other ideas/things for me to try to try to track down why it hangs?
[06:53] <BNOsaosin-tux> door: ooo...error is "Undefined device"
[06:53] <BNOsaosin-tux> door: it still has old info in there
[06:53] <Dev05> K-tron, Now that you mounted it, try again.
[06:53] <|thunder> how do I determine what version my nvidia drives are? it seems 1.0-8774 has been released
[06:53] <BNOsaosin-tux> door: under default screen
[06:53] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core
[06:53] <jamesstansell> fishy: do you have a process like "/home/<your user name here>/.wine/"
[06:53] <JKoder> please help .. i can hardly use my network :(
[06:53] <K-tron> Dev05 right now it's mount as /media/temphd , is that fine or did you have a particular place in mind?
[06:53] <fishy> jamesstansell: No.
[06:54] <DanaG> I'm wondering: is there an easy way to get dhclient3 to update my /etc/hosts automatically?
[06:54] <azureal> linux__alien, this is an interesting article; not sure if it helps... https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/pppoeconf/+bug/7911
[06:54] <jamesstansell> fishy: does pstree show the wine processes and their parent?
[06:54] <Dev05> MystaMax, Ok, add a Network Monitor Applet to your Panel and click its icon. In the dialog that appears change the "Name" to the interface where you have your Samba connection. Then click "Configure". Tell me when done.
[06:55] <ciscosurfer> | thunder: sudo dpkg -s nvidia-glx    OR    sudo dpkg -s nvidia-glx-legacy
[06:55] <BNOsaosin-tux> door: ok...just back to terminal
[06:55] <fishy> jamesstansell: No.
[06:55] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: is gdm installed?
[06:55] <Dev05> K-tron, there should be a file called like: /dev/sda/ If it is there, you can proceed with the installation and tell the Partitioner to install in there.
[06:55] <GTroy> hi guys, anyone know about filesystems?  like hfs+ ?
[06:55] <BNOsaosin-tux> door: it was running on the ATI card
[06:55] <Ayano> Can someone give me any guidance?
[06:55] <azureal> linux__alien, bleh, nvm... outdated ...forgot to check  year of post
[06:55] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: what was? gdm?
[06:55] <BNOsaosin-tux> door: gdm = that gnome login screen correct?
[06:56] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: yup!
[06:56] <fishy> yes
[06:56] <BNOsaosin-tux> door: yeah, it worked fine before
[06:56] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: ok...so now you've reconfigured the xserver-core
[06:56] <K-tron> Dev05-- there are files /dev/sda, /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, /dev/sda5 all in that directory... I'll try again
[06:56] <K-tron> :)
[06:56] <door> type sudo gdm and see what happens
[06:56] <ciscosurfer> |thunder: sudo dpkg -s nvidia-glx    OR    sudo dpkg -s nvidia-glx-legacy
[06:56] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: type sudo gdm and see what happens
[06:57] <Dev05> K-tron, Oh, how many partitions you've got there. Ok, it's good.
[06:57] <|thunder> thanks ciscosurfer
[06:57] <Dev05> K-tron, just go in the installer.
[06:57] <BNOsaosin-tux> door: "gdm already running"  wtf!?
[06:57] <ciscosurfer> |thunder: anytime ;-)
[06:57] <Explicit> Saosin rocks.
[06:57] <band-aid> how can I change my screen resolution to 1280X1024 from 640x480. The drop down menu dosn't work. I have the proper resolutions in Xorg.conf.
[06:57] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: sudo killall gdm
[06:57] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: sudo gdm
[06:58] <K-tron> I figured I'd let ubuntu autopartition/format that drive anyway, unless you think that's a bad idea given these circumstances
[06:58] <BNOsaosin-tux> done
[06:58] <Dev05> MystaMax, Ready?
[06:58] <BNOsaosin-tux> nothing happened
[06:58] <Ayano> can anyone help me get my wireless working?
[06:58] <MystaMax> Dev05, OK done
[06:58] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: no errors or antyhing?
[06:58] <Deaigo> i need a really small httpd
[06:58] <door> just still in the CLI?
[06:58] <BNOsaosin-tux> door: oh....it popped up the error
[06:58] <Deaigo> sever 1 index.html file
[06:58] <Deaigo> serve*
[06:58] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: hmmmmmm
[06:58] <BNOsaosin-tux> door: yep cli
[06:58] <K-tron> Deaigo, lighttpd?
[06:58] <BNOsaosin-tux> this is wierd
[06:58] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: ok...do you have a separate /home partition?
[06:58] <Deaigo> K-tron thats too much for what i want
[06:58] <Dev05> MystaMax, ok, so in the "Network settings" dialog that just appeared, click on the "Hosts" Tab.
[06:59] <|thunder> read about the new linux nVidia driver here. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=535&num=1. has more hardware composition support for xorg 7.1.
[06:59] <BNOsaosin-tux> door: nope just / and swap
[06:59] <Dev05> MystaMax, Then click "Add".
[06:59] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: hmmmm...i won't suggest you reinstall then. if you ever do have to reinstall, though, be sure to make a separate partition for /home
[06:59] <MystaMax> Dev05, Ok. I already added the hostname and IP of the windows box
[06:59] <ciscosurfer> |thunder: I'll take a look
[06:59] <Dev05> MystaMax, That was fast,
[06:59] <MystaMax> Dev05, but I did it from the CLI
[06:59] <JKoder> can anyone PM me for kernel help please !!! i cannot post here because i have HUGE lags and i cannot trak messages !!!!
[06:59] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: i'm sorry...i really don't know what else to tell you
[06:59] <K-tron> Dev05-- just started trying again, letting it erase and autopartition/etc /dev/sda
[06:59] <BNOsaosin-tux> door: haha thats ok....thanks for al your help
[07:00] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: have you posted on the forums?
[07:00] <BNOsaosin-tux> door: not yet
[07:00] <MystaMax> Dev05, do I need to restart the interface?
[07:00] <BNOsaosin-tux> i will now
[07:00] <Dev05> MystaMax, So try again with the Launcher you have previously created.
[07:00] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: good luck
[07:00] <nich0s> My name is nich0s and I know very little :P
[07:00] <BNOsaosin-tux> ty
[07:00] <door> BNOsaosin-tux: sorry i couldn't help more
[07:00] <BNOsaosin-tux> oor: haha np
[07:00] <Dev05> K-tron, OK.
[07:00] <MystaMax> Dev05, same error, I'm wondering if  I need to restart or something?
[07:01] <DanaG> dang, ...
[07:01] <Ayano> Anyone willing to help me?
[07:01] <DanaG> How can I get dhclient3 to update my /etc/hosts automatically?
[07:01] <Dev05> MystaMax, OK, so Disable the Interface and Re-Enable it again.
[07:01] <door> Ayano: with what?
[07:01] <Ayano> wireless
[07:01] <Linuturk> is there a specific channel dedicated to Tablet PC users on Ubunut?
[07:02] <MystaMax> Dev05, Ok, I'll lose ya, so BRb
[07:02] <MystaMax> BRB
[07:02] <door> Ayano: do you use ndiswrapper, and what's the problem?
[07:02] <Dev05> MystaMax, OK.
[07:02] <Linuturk> if there isn't a channel dedicated to Tablet PC users running ubuntu, who would I talk to about starting it?
[07:02] <Ayano> door: no on ndiswrapper, and I can't get my card to see the ap
[07:03] <door> Ayano: what ap?
[07:03] <ciscosurfer> door: access point
[07:03] <Ayano> it just says accesspoint invalid all of the time...  My linksys access point
[07:03] <door> ciscosurfer: eh?
[07:03] <jamesstansell> DanaG: are you wanting it to update your local IP address in /etc/hosts?
[07:03] <door> Ayano: sorry...i don't know what to tell you. good luck finding an answer
[07:03] <DanaG> Yeah.
[07:04] <MystaMax_> Dev05,
[07:04] <MystaMax_> Dev05, MUHAHAHAHAHAA it worked!
[07:04] <Dev05> MystaMax_, Cool! Nice.
[07:04] <DanaG> Is there a way to make the system keep a list of currently-active hosts (with names) on the network?
[07:04] <ciscosurfer> door: you said "what ap" so I answered for Ayano...perhaps you meant "what type of ap?"  or "which ap manufacturer"
[07:05] <MystaMax_> Dev05, so now we both know how to do it, cool beans.
[07:05] <DanaG> All the other systems are Windows File Sharing-enabled, so I could pull names from incoming requests -- except for the router.
[07:05] <door> ciscosurfer: aha. i didn't know ap was an abbreviation, which perhaps should tell you i'm not the right person to answer after all :-)
[07:05] <jamesstansell> DanaG: I'm not seeing dhclient in apt-cache. you are running dapper, right?
[07:05] <Dev05> MystaMax_, Yeah, although I've always wondered how to set Samba up :)
[07:05] <DanaG> Yeah.
[07:05] <DanaG> Look for dhcp3
[07:05] <ciscosurfer> door: lol
[07:06] <technician> hi where to find complete ubuntu theme 'all in one' with all wallpaper icons window border everything in one
[07:06] <Dev05> K-tron, How is the installation going?
[07:06] <door> technician: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-artwork
[07:06] <ciscosurfer> door: you know about ndiswrapper but not ap?  shame shame
[07:06] <nich0s> NOt everyone loves wireless :P
[07:06] <technician> door is there other themes except for these ?
[07:06] <ciscosurfer> door: i'm just joking with ya
[07:07] <door> ciscosurfer: hey now, be nice...it's not my fault i don't have a magic one
[07:07] <ZeronenoreZ> now my system upgrated to Linux-686 but how can i delete the Linux-386 from gurb?
[07:07] <jamesstansell> DanaG: dhcp3-server? or dhcp3-client?
[07:07] <door> technician:  you might try gnome-look.org
[07:07] <Madpilot> technician, there are a bunch of themes available by default, and more are easy to install
[07:07] <nich0s> modify the boot file :P
[07:07] <K-tron> Dev05-- stuck again
[07:07] <urmom>  for the ibm java for ppc, would i use the j2se 5.0, or the 1.4.2?
[07:07] <ZeronenoreZ> how to change my list in gurb?
[07:08] <jamesstansell> !resolvconf
[07:08] <ubotu> resolvconf: nameserver information handler. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.34ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 50 kB, installed size 280 kB
[07:08] <urmom> jw what do you guys like about ubuntu over fedora?
[07:08] <MystaMax_> Dev05, I'm out for the night, thanks for the help! see ya guys!
[07:08] <urmom> trying to decide which to use :P
[07:08] <technician> Madpilot, there are but i dont understand seperately i want something that can be directly install one shot
[07:08] <ciscosurfer> urmom: everything!
[07:08] <K-tron> This is ridiculous
[07:08] <technician> i dont want to install this and that one by one
[07:08] <door> ZeronenoreZ: you need to edit it, as root, with a text editor. but first BACK IT UP
[07:08] <Dev05> MystaMax_, No problem.
[07:08] <urmom> personally i prefer fedora except for yum
[07:08] <nich0s> ZeronenoreZ, back it up!!! :P
[07:09] <DanaG> I'm a client.  My router is the server.
[07:09] <technician> Madpilot, do you know any vista or xp theme on ubuntu blue glowing color ?
[07:09] <ciscosurfer> urmom: ok
[07:09] <Dev05> K-tron, Can you access your drive trough Nautilus?
[07:09] <Madpilot> technician, Gnome themes are often installed in parts, though. It's easy to assemble your own themes, though
[07:09] <ZeronenoreZ> door, which text?
[07:09] <K-tron> heh... I'm gving up for the night, thanks Dev05, but I don't think I'm getting ubuntu working tonight, and I kind of doubt if I'll be able to do it in the next 2 weeks even heh
[07:09] <urmom> but why do u guys like ubuntu?
[07:09] <door> urmom: the community and apt-get
[07:09] <jamesstansell> DanaG: resolvconf is for tracking name servers - I don't think it updates /etc/hosts
[07:09] <Madpilot> technician, I'm sure there are XP-like themes, that seems like a horrible thing to do to a Linux machine, though ;)
[07:09] <K-tron> Dev05-- hm, I'll try
[07:09] <urmom> oh ok
[07:09] <ciscosurfer> urmom: *bump* door
[07:09] <door> ZeronenoreZ: a text *editor* such as gedit, nano, emacs, vim, etc.
[07:10] <technician> Madpilot, ok leave xp i know i dont want them and i agree gnome themes are better
[07:10] <ciscosurfer> door: well, urmom was friendly
[07:10] <technician> Madpilot, what are the different part of the theme that i need to install if i do seperately ?
[07:10] <ZeronenoreZ> door ,edit what?(i'm fresh man) :(
[07:10] <DanaG> I wonder why there are both dhcp3-client and dhcpd
[07:10] <door> ciscosurfer: lol
[07:10] <nich0s> ciscosurfer, Technically, he didn't say anything bad :P
[07:10] <|thunder> ZeronenoreZ, /boot/grub/menu.list
[07:10] <ZeronenoreZ> door ,thux
[07:10] <ciscosurfer> nich0s: technically, you're right
[07:10] <ZeronenoreZ> i'll rey
[07:11] <door> ZeronenoreZ: aha. /boot/grub/menu.lst. and careful--not everybody's a man around these here parts
[07:11] <door> ZeronenoreZ: :-)
[07:11] <door> ZeronenoreZ: what're you trying to do?
[07:11] <Madpilot> technician, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy - it should answer your questions about themes
[07:11] <ZeronenoreZ> door, edit it
[07:11] <K-tron> Dev05, where would I see it listed, under places?
[07:11] <jamesstansell> DanaG: I don't suppose you could assign static IP addresses in your router?
[07:11] <door> ZeronenoreZ: i got that...what is your goal? what are you trying to achieve by editing it?
[07:11] <technician> Madpilot, thanks
[07:12] <ZeronenoreZ> door, delete the Linux-386
[07:12] <Dev05> K-tron, Navigate to computer:///
[07:12] <door> ZeronenoreZ: so you want to uninstall ubuntu
[07:12] <door> ?
[07:12] <ciscosurfer> door: and there goes nich0s...they're dropping like flies
[07:12] <linux__alien> is Ubuntu used as a Development Platform by Debian Developers ?
[07:12] <ZeronenoreZ> door, no! i love ubuntu very much
[07:12] <dasGewitte1> When burning DVD's, when trying to playback, it says it is encrypted. Answers?
[07:12] <Dev05> K-tron, Otherwise, check the place where you mounted it.
[07:13] <door> ciscosurfer: i missed nich0s
[07:13] <linux__alien> i heard that Debian Developers use Ubuntu as the Development Platform
[07:13] <linux__alien> is that true
[07:13] <door> linux__alien: no, it's its own os
[07:13] <ciscosurfer> ZeronenoreZ: I would suggest commenting out the kernel line instead of completely deleting the line, that way you can revert quickly if you need to
[07:13] <linux__alien> door, no my question is Ubuntu used as a Development platform?
[07:13] <K-tron> Dev05, okay, I did, I see my 2 optical drives, 'Windows' (the hard drive I want to erase/repartition/install ubuntu on) and 'Filesystem'
[07:14] <door> ZeronenoreZ: ZeronenoreZ what "Linux-386" are you trying to delete?
[07:14] <corndog_> I recently installed kde through aptitude and then removed it... however it replaced my boot splash screen to kubuntu. How can I change it back to the default?
[07:14] <jamesstansell> linux__alien: it's possible
[07:14] <ciscosurfer> ZeronenoreZ: use the pound sign to comment out lines (#) without the parentheses...you can just comment out the 'title' line and that will make it "disappear" from your GRUB bootup menu
[07:14] <Dev05> K-tron, OK, open the installer up and tell me when you get to the part that says "Partitions".
[07:14] <ZeronenoreZ> door, i mean i already have Ubuntu-686
[07:15] <wolfmanz> whats the default folder for the deaktop wallpapers?
[07:15] <dasGewitte1> Anyone?
[07:15] <DanaG> I just had a thought: perhaps it would be better to NOT have that thing update.
[07:15] <Shadowpillar> when trying to compile this one program, I get this:
[07:15] <Shadowpillar> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/3.4.6/../../../../lib/crt1.o: relocation R_X86_64_32S against `__libc_csu_fini' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
[07:15] <DanaG> If I hard code it for my subnet, then it won't even TRY to work on any other networks.
[07:15] <|thunder> wolfmanz,/usr/share/pixmaps or something i think
[07:15] <ZeronenoreZ> ciscosurfer,that's a good idea :)
[07:15] <Shadowpillar> is this an error with GCC?
[07:15] <Shadowpillar> or the app? or LD?
[07:15] <DanaG> That way it won't cause trouble on other networks.
[07:15] <NickGarvey> Shadowline: no.. thats your make file I think
[07:15] <DrAk0> which program i can use to burn a iso image onto a cd?
[07:16] <door> ZeronenoreZ: aha! hmmm...the best thing probably would've been to install over it...but just like ciscosurfer said, use # to commment out the lines you don't want. ok, let's start from the top
[07:16] <NickGarvey> Shadowline: 64 bit has that problem sometimes (I hit it a lot)
[07:16] <door> ZeronenoreZ: are you using gnome?
[07:16] <ciscosurfer> ZeronenoreZ: I usually comment out the lines instead of completely deleting so I can revert quickly
[07:16] <bhrobinson> hi, can anyone help me with my grub? I have 2 drives. the pri master is my Ubuntu, and the pri slave is winxp. What would I need in my grub.conf?
[07:16] <K-tron> Dev05, I'm at 'Prepare disk space' where I decide how to partition.... options are Resize, Erase, and Manually edit partition table
[07:16] <ZeronenoreZ> door, of course
[07:17] <ZeronenoreZ> ciscosurfer, ur great
[07:17] <Shadowpillar> NickGarvey: so, how do I fix it?
[07:17] <door> ZeronenoreZ: so you were able to edit it?
[07:17] <NickGarvey> Shadowline: good question.. hmm, what are you compiling?
[07:17] <Dev05> K-tron, OK, tell it that you want to "Manually modify the Partition Table" (or something alike). It must be the last option in the list.
[07:17] <ZeronenoreZ> door, trying .....
[07:18] <door> ZeronenoreZ: kk...if you have any problems, feel free to ask!
[07:18] <Shadowpillar> NickGarvey: nspluginwrapper
[07:18] <jamesstansell> DanaG: there are several ranges of addresses that are non-routable, so those are typically used for private LANs
[07:18] <Shadowpillar> unless you know where I can get some debs for dapper
[07:18] <K-tron> Dev05-- alright... I'm looking at the partitions on /dev/sda now
[07:18] <ciscosurfer> ZeronenoreZ: you're a palindrome!
[07:18] <ZeronenoreZ> door, u ubuntu are all great
[07:18] <NickGarvey> Shadowpillar: I don't.. and I have never heard of that
[07:18] <|thunder> bhrobinson, add these 5 lines to the bottom of the /boot/grub/menu.list
[07:18] <Shadowpillar> NickGarvey: it allows you to use 32 bit firefix plugins
[07:18] <Shadowpillar> er
[07:18] <Dev05> K-tron, There's NOTHING that you want to keep in there?
[07:18] <|thunder> bhrobinson, title           Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[07:18] <Shadowpillar> firefox*
[07:19] <|thunder> bhrobinson, root            (hd1,0)
[07:19] <|thunder> bhrobinson, savedefault
[07:19] <|thunder> bhrobinson, makeactive
[07:19] <NickGarvey> Shadowpillar: oh I see.. theres an easier way to do that I believe
[07:19] <K-tron> Dev05-- for all intents and purposes NOTHING-- I can completely okay with erasing this entire disk
[07:19] <ZeronenoreZ> ciscosurfer, what does a 'palindrome' mean?
[07:19] <|thunder> bhrobinson, chainloader  +1
[07:19] <K-tron> *I am completely
[07:19] <Shadowpillar> NickGarvey: no, I'm not making my firefox 32 bit
[07:19] <Shadowpillar> that way is actually harder
[07:20] <NickGarvey> I don't think so..
[07:20] <DrAk0> which program i can use to burn a iso image onto a cd?
[07:20] <Dev05> K-tron, So then, delete all the partitions. Do NOT yet get to the next page.
[07:20] <NickGarvey> Shadowline: I had 2 version of firefox, one 64 on 32, I'm not sure how to do what you are doing
[07:20] <ciscosurfer> ZeronenoreZ: that's what you're name is: http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Apalindrome&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[07:20] <door> DrAk0: gnomebaker is good
[07:20] <bhrobinson> thunder, thanks... I will try it shortly
[07:20] <Jediborger> Can someone help me with ltsp booting?
[07:20] <door> DrAk0: though you need to be root
[07:20] <qazqaz70> hi
[07:20] <|thunder> bhrobinson, there has to be tabs between the option and the variable. not spaces. put 1 tab between the chainloader and the +1 then make the rest line up with it with tabs.
[07:21] <BNOsaosin> hola door et all
[07:21] <qazqaz70> i want help
[07:21] <door> DrAk0: and in my experience you need to start it in a terminal, with sudo, instead of with gksudo
[07:21] <door> BNOsaosin: lol. welcome back. i'm never going to get to bed
[07:21] <door> BNOsaosin: jk
[07:21] <qazqaz70> how can i know whats root password
[07:21] <qazqaz70> ??
[07:21] <BNOsaosin> door: it seems as though i am in a GUI environment :)
[07:21] <door> qazqaz70: normally you use sudo
[07:21] <K-tron> Dev05-- okay, now just have a nice give block that's unallocated-- should I 'Deactivate' it too? not quite sure what that means in this context, but either way, I deleted the partitions
[07:21] <door> BNOsaosin: yay! you did it!
[07:21] <BNOsaosin> haha yes
[07:21] <ciscosurfer> DRAk0: goto Places > CD/DVD creator
[07:22] <dasGewitte1> any one, about dvd's?
[07:22] <ZeronenoreZ> ciscosurfer, i have so many thing need to study.just because i'm a chinese
[07:22] <BNOsaosin> now to enable 3d acceleration on the crad haha....but im sure i ca figure that out
[07:22] <BNOsaosin> card*
[07:22] <qazqaz70> when i did in terminal .. su
[07:22] <door> quintin: so you'd do "sudo somecommand", then type *your* password
[07:22] <Dev05> K-tron, Now you have a bar that says "Unallocated" which is great. How big is your HD?
[07:22] <door> BNOsaosin: sweet!
[07:22] <Jediborger> don't use su
[07:22] <jamesstansell> qazqaz70: you can only know by keeping track what you changed it to
[07:22] <K-tron> 160gb I thought, but it has 149.05 GB listed as 'unallocated'
[07:22] <qazqaz70> and put pass give me it this
[07:22] <ZeronenoreZ> ciscosurfer, how i wish i could use english as free as u now!!!
[07:22] <qazqaz70> su: Authentication failure
[07:22] <qazqaz70> Sorry.
[07:22] <Jediborger> just type sudo in front of the command you need root privileges for
[07:22] <DrAk0> ciscosurfer, in that way you drop files, i need to burn the iso unpacked
[07:22] <bhrobinson> thunder, any way to test without rebooting?
[07:22] <door> qazqaz70: you can set the root password with sudo passwd root
[07:23] <Jediborger> su doesn't work
[07:23] <DanaG> OOkay, I found something I can do.
[07:23] <ciscosurfer> ZeronenoreZ: you're name is the same forwards and it is backwards
[07:23] <jamesstansell> qazqaz70: if you use sudo you won't need to have a root passwd
[07:23] <DanaG> Hard-code <IP_ADDRESS>/26
[07:23] <door> qazqaz70: but it's better to use sudo
[07:23] <ciscosurfer> DrAk0: burn it as an image
[07:23] <DanaG> But it doesn't get hostnames.
[07:23] <DanaG> Dang.
[07:23] <ciscosurfer> DrAk0: always works for my ISOs
[07:23] <Dev05> K-tron, Probably your BIOS doesn't support disks bigger that 149.05... Is EVERYTHING gone? Nothing?
[07:23] <qazqaz70> the same
[07:23] <Jediborger> When I boot my ltsp client I just get a white screen and a flashing underscore, is this right?
[07:23] <sgcplayer> I want to copy my home dir to another directory to back it up (compression not necessary, there are other files and dir's on the partition, its formatted vfat)
[07:23] <door> qazqaz70: eh?
[07:24] <qazqaz70> when i put su
[07:24] <sgcplayer> oops, copy it to another partition
[07:24] <jamesstansell> DanaG: does your router provide a name service?
[07:24] <|thunder> bhrobinson, no. but if thigns get fucked you can boot into linux withhout the menu.list by entering the linux boot commands above in menu.list. but if all you did was add to the bottom then all is well.
[07:24] <qazqaz70> and put root is pass
[07:24] <jamesstansell> DanaG: the other possibility is avahi
[07:24] <door> qazqaz70: ok, slow down and start over. what is the problem?
[07:24] <ciscosurfer> |thunder: this is a family channel ;-)
[07:24] <K-tron> Dev05-- there is a single line listed, and that is "unallocated,unallocated,149.05 GB, ---, ---, "
[07:24] <bhrobinson> ok, trying now then
[07:24] <jamesstansell> !avahi
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avahi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <door> qazqaz70: to do something as root, use sudo
[07:24] <K-tron> Dev05, so there is nothing as far as I can tell :)
[07:24] <qazqaz70> i want make new folder in var folder
[07:25] <IcemanV9> !sudo > qazqaz70
[07:25] <door> qazqaz70: right. so sudo
[07:25] <Jediborger> Can someone help me with ltsp?
[07:25] <Lathiat> http://www.avahi.org
[07:25] <door> qazqaz70: qazqaz70: sudo mkdir foldername
[07:25] <Dev05> K-tron, How much do you want for your "Home" (under Windows, that's your "My Documents" folder, in Linux it is put in another partition)?
[07:25] <bhrobinson> you know, I find it fascinating that my system has been up for 3 days, 13 hours... and still solid... I used to be a minimum of 5 reboots a day on XP
[07:25] <DanaG> Avahi?
[07:26] <DanaG> I have a fixed range of hosts (<IP_ADDRESS>-50) and I want something to keep up a list of what's active, with names)
[07:26] <K-tron> Dev05, I'll say 40gb for now... shouldn't the first partition on the disk be the boot one though, or am I crazy?
[07:27] <Dev05> K-tron, Yeah, but I need to calculate the space :) How much for the Swap (like physical RAM)?
[07:27] <K-tron> Dev05, well, as far as I remember, you're supposed to have twice your memory in swap, and I have 2gb of memory, so maybe 4gb of swap?
[07:27] <jamesstansell> DanaG: avahi / zeroconf do something like that for .local subnet
[07:28] <Dev05> K-tron, I'd say for that 512MB is good enough.
[07:28] <Jediborger> Can someone help me with ltsp? please
[07:28] <K-tron> Dev05 fine, 512mb works for me
[07:28] <|thunder> i use 1x swap
[07:28] <DrAk0> thanks
[07:28] <goatslayer> Hello, does anyone here have knowlege of wireless pranks?
[07:29] <jamesstansell> DanaG: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToZeroconf
[07:29] <jamesstansell> !zeroconf
[07:29] <ubotu> zeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 39 kB, installed size 132 kB
[07:29] <|thunder> pranks ?
[07:29] <Dev05> K-tron, 2GB, man... OK, for root, which is represented by / allocate 108.55GB.
[07:29] <goatslayer> Im in a laptop english class, and i was wondering if i could mess with some of my friends computers, harmless things...
[07:29] <Killeroid> goatslayer:  #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:29] <K-tron> Dev05, alright, doing that now
[07:30] <Deaigo> @reboot /usr/sbin/cherokee
[07:30] <Deaigo> wil lthat work
[07:30] <Deaigo> or do i need the & at the end
[07:30] <Jediborger> Can someone help me with ltsp? please help
[07:30] <drbreen> wtf is cherokee ?
[07:30] <Killeroid> goatslayer: i would advice you not to do that though cos you never know when you do something illega
[07:30] <Deaigo> a httpd server
[07:30] <Killeroid> *illegal
[07:30] <Deaigo> httpd*
[07:30] <K-tron> Dev05-- filesystem? xfs? reiserfs?... jfs?
[07:30] <Killeroid> goodnight guys
[07:30] <|thunder> you could find a way to boot them off the network, or provide a funny ssid in adhoc mode
[07:30] <gb453> can anyone help me get wpa_supplicant running? debug here -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21687
[07:30] <Jediborger> I have the server stuff installed as in the wiki but nothing seems to happen on the client
[07:31] <Dev05> K-tron, Ext2
[07:31] <NickGarvey> Dev05: 2?
[07:31] <Dev05> K-tron, Ext3
[07:31] <NickGarvey> Dev05: :)
[07:31] <Dev05> Sorry@
[07:31] <Dev05> !
[07:31] <K-tron> Dev05, Ext3 works for me:)
[07:31] <bhrobinson> ok, I got an error on reboot..
[07:31] <devil> can anyone help me with a problem with the Ubuntu boot loader????
[07:31] <K-tron> Dev05-- k
[07:31] <goatslayer> killeroid: is that illegal? no harm intended, just want to play around with my class mates
[07:31] <NickGarvey> gb453: can you do "iwlist scan" ?
[07:31] <Dev05> K-tron, for Home, which has to be mounted on /home do the same and allocate 40GB in an Ext3 Partition.
[07:31] <bhrobinson> File System type unknown Partition type 0x7
[07:31] <BNOsaosin> hmm anyone wann help me with 3d acceleration on an nvidia card?
[07:32] <BNOsaosin> besides door haha
[07:32] <door> BNOsaosin: no worries, i can't help with that anyway
[07:32] <drbreen> goatsslayer: what do you want to do ?
[07:32] <door> and on that note, goodnight
[07:32] <NickGarvey> !nvidia > BNOsaosin
[07:32] <BNOsaosin> ahh good
[07:32] <BNOsaosin> lol
[07:32] <NickGarvey> door: right
[07:32] <drbreen> goatslayer
[07:32] <DanaG> Ooh, that's a cool idea.
[07:32] <DanaG> I know one of the computers has iTunes installed, so it will respond.
[07:32] <Killeroid> goatslayer: every school/isp has its policies on its internet use, be careful not to break them
[07:32] <Jediborger> Can anyone help me with network booting of ubuntu?
[07:32] <gb453> Nick: it finds a wireless network, not my own because i dont broadcast the SSID
[07:33] <BNOsaosin> Nick: drivers are installed, when i try to apt-get the nvidia-glx, i get an error
[07:33] <Killeroid> goatslayer: and dont harm any IT guys or their babies
[07:33] <bhrobinson> !nvidia > bhrobinson
[07:33] <DanaG> Oh, wireless pranks"
[07:33] <NickGarvey> BNOsaosin: what error?
[07:33] <K-tron> Dev05-- okay... and I assume those were both primary partitions too
[07:33] <|thunder> BNOsaosin, did you install nvidia-glx and change nv to nvidia in xorg.conf ?
[07:33] <qazqaz70> please i want make folder in /var
[07:33] <DanaG> How about the turning-images-upside-down prank?
[07:33] <qazqaz70> call tuxbox
[07:33] <NickGarvey> qazqaz70: you sure?
[07:33] <BNOsaosin> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[07:33] <BNOsaosin> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[07:33] <BNOsaosin> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[07:33] <BNOsaosin> or been moved out of Incoming.
[07:33] <BNOsaosin> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[07:33] <BNOsaosin> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[07:33] <BNOsaosin> that package should be filed.
[07:33] <qazqaz70> yesy
[07:33] <BNOsaosin> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[07:33] <Dev05> K-tron, Yeah, just set what you need. The rest can be left default :)
[07:33] <BNOsaosin> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:33] <BNOsaosin>   nvidia-glx: Depends: xserver-common (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed
[07:33] <BNOsaosin> sry :)
[07:33] <ZeronenoreZ> door thanks dude i finished it
[07:33] <bhrobinson> thunder, you still there?
[07:34] <Dev05> K-tron, Now, for swap, do the same, but...
[07:34] <NickGarvey> qazqaz70: try using sudo then, but I don't know why would you need to do that
[07:34] <goatslayer> drbreen: I just want to mess with some of my mates computers, they are in my laptop enlish class.
[07:34] <DanaG> Too bad there isn't a Linux LLTD driver.
[07:34] <|thunder> bhrobinson, did you apt-get dist-upgrade first ?
[07:34] <Killeroid> goodnight guys, see you all later
[07:34] <devil> can anyone help me with a problem with the GNU GRUB bootloader?
[07:34] <|thunder> er
[07:34] <Dev05> K-tron, The filesystem is swap, be sure to put it as swap in the mount point and allocate the rest of the HD for it.
[07:34] <DanaG> http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=216305
[07:34] <NickGarvey> Killeroid: ght
[07:34] <|thunder> bhrobinson, ya, sry
[07:34] <drbreen> goatslayer: to mess ? are they using windows ?
[07:34] <BNOsaosin> any ideas?
[07:34] <|thunder> BNOsaosin, did you apt-get dist-upgrade first ?
[07:34] <NickGarvey> Killeroid: night**
[07:34] <bhrobinson> thunder, no... should I?
[07:34] <Linuturk> !paste
[07:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel.  Will not run two cards of the same make
[07:36] <drbreen> goatslayer: ok then use airpwn. it kind of poisons the wlan space - like pr0n on all connections.
[07:36] <qazqaz70> please any one help me to do that
[07:36] <bhrobinson> thunder, did you get my error on the reboot though?
[07:36] <|thunder> bhrobinson, thats weird
[07:36] <NickGarvey> qazqaz70: use sudo to do that
[07:36] <goatslayer> drbreen:  Thanks, are you familiar with it?
[07:36] <|thunder> bhrobinson, which error ?
[07:36] <BNOsaosin> |thunder: apt-get dist-upgrade does nothing, everthing is up to date
[07:37] <Dev05> K-tron, Oh, I don't remember, I think you do that in the next step. Sorry, it's just that I don't remember exactly how the Installer looks like.
[07:37] <bhrobinson> File System type unknown Partition type 0x7
[07:37] <qazqaz70> after type  sudo
[07:37] <qazqaz70> what
[07:37] <ZeronenoreZ> how can i add mplayer in firefox and opera?
[07:37] <unikuser> hi. Is there any way to know how much resources(cpu,ram) a process takes over a period of time?
[07:37] <Dev05> K-tron, Now your HD must be filled with three partitions and no more space, is that correct?
[07:37] <drbreen> goatslayer: no, but it seems kinda funny - goatse instead of pictures on the intarweb will surely make life hell for your buddies
[07:38] <goatslayer> drbreen:  is airpwn something like aircrack? cause i know all about aircrack..
[07:38] <bhrobinson> thunder, File System type unknown Partition type 0x7
[07:38] <K-tron> No problem, just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something wrong... Alright, well, I have 3 partitions, sizes got shuffled a little but they are ext3 106.1 gb, ext3 42.36 gb, and linux-swap 700.35 mb in order
[07:38] <|thunder> BNOsaosin, what was that xserver error it gave you ?
[07:38] <K-tron> And yes, that fills the drive
[07:38] <drbreen> goatslayer: no aircrack is used to crack flawed WEP connections
[07:38] <NickGarvey> goatslayer: careful with airpwn, if you are offended by nasty pictures then I would suggest against using it
[07:38] <|thunder> bhrobinson, ohh. thats weird.
[07:38] <qazqaz70> mkdir: cannot create directory `./var/tuxbox': No such file or directory
[07:38] <DanaG> Upside-down is more innocuous.
[07:38] <DanaG> Or invert.
[07:38] <|thunder> bhrobinson, is the slave drive part'd in ntfs ?
[07:38] <bhrobinson> thunder, yes
[07:38] <BNOsaosin> |thunder: you mean when trying to install nvidia-glx?
[07:39] <|thunder> BNOsaosin, yes
[07:39] <blatch> So I've installed the 2.6.15-26-686 headers (and am running that kernel) and trying to compile the orinoco monitor mode drivers and i get the following: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21693
[07:39] <ZeronenoreZ> how can i add mplayer in firefox and opera?
[07:39] <ZeronenoreZ> how can i add mplayer in firefox and opera?
[07:39] <NickGarvey> ZeronenoreZ: don't spam please
[07:39] <goatslayer> drbreen:  goatse stuff is sick, i just want to do simple pranks, like making their winows turn upside down or something.
[07:39] <qazqaz70> why nobody help me
[07:39] <|thunder> bhrobinson, how many parts on the slave ?
[07:39] <NickGarvey> qazqaz70: I told you
[07:39] <qazqaz70> ok
[07:39] <BNOsaosin> |thunder: mind if i PM you the error?
[07:39] <|thunder> BNOsaosin, sure
[07:40] <qazqaz70> write command for me
[07:40] <NickGarvey> qazqaz70: drop the ./var/tuxbox, make it "sudo mkdir /var/tuxbox"
[07:40] <tom_> hello? I was hoping someone could help me... i just ran a liveCD of Ubuntu, and had internet access without a problem. then, i did the full install, and i can't access the internet now. anyone have any ideas?
[07:40] <Linuturk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21692 << are my repos updating correctly? what is the difference between Hit, Get, and Ign ?
[07:40] <ZeronenoreZ> NickGarvey, how could i add mplayer in firefox and opera?
[07:40] <NickGarvey> blatch: you need the sources
[07:40] <bhrobinson> thunder, only 1
[07:40] <K-tron> Dev05-- you catch that? should I go on to the next screen?
[07:40] <NickGarvey> !info linux-sources
[07:40] <ubotu> Package linux-sources does not exist in dapper
[07:40] <NickGarvey> or not
[07:40] <drbreen> goatslayer: then use airpwn to turn each image upside down ? provide them with a fake WLAN access point ? there is this software that fakes 43637 APs
[07:40] <Dev05> K-tron, If you agree with that schema, go to the next step, where, yes, you'll set the mount points. Something else, whenever you want to tell me something, put my name on the message so I get the pop-up telling me you're talking to me, otherwise I'll take longer to answer because I'm not always looking in here.
[07:40] <blatch> NickGarvey, i have them
[07:40] <NickGarvey> blatch: sudo apt-get install linux-source
[07:40] <blatch> unarchived and all
[07:40] <sgcplayer> Is it possible to backup my home dir on another partition (without compression)?  I just to save a copy on a partition (vfat) just in case I mess something up on the partition where it currently is
[07:40] <NickGarvey> blatch: doesnt' look like it
[07:40] <K-tron> Dev05, got it:)
[07:40] <goatslayer> drbreen: ok, cuase i dont want any goatse crap..
[07:41] <Dev05> K-tron, ;)
[07:41] <NickGarvey> blatch: oh you need the headers
[07:41] <drbreen> goatslayer: your nickname says otherwise
[07:41] <|thunder> bhrobinson, if you remove the ide bus and switch slave to master does it boot windows?
[07:41] <blatch> i've tried the same command with sudo
[07:41] <qazqaz70> it give me this
[07:41] <blatch> ok
[07:41] <qazqaz70> bash: ./var/tuxbox: No such file or directory
[07:41] <qazqaz70> qazqaz70@ubuntu:~$ sudo ./var/tuxbox
[07:41] <qazqaz70> Password:
[07:41] <qazqaz70> sudo: ./var/tuxbox: command not found
[07:41] <qazqaz70> qazqaz70@ubuntu:~$
[07:41] <blatch> i'll let you know how it goes
[07:41] <bhrobinson> thunder, yes
[07:41] <K-tron> Dev05, got an error when trying to create sda3 :(
[07:41] <drbreen> goatslayer: http://evilscheme.org/defcon/
[07:41] <|thunder> bhrobinson, er, sorry
[07:41] <NickGarvey> qazqaz70: no no..
[07:41] <drbreen> goatslayer: http://sourceforge.net/projects/airpwn
[07:41] <Shadowpillar> nspluginwrapper rocks
[07:41] <|thunder> bhrobinson, ya, the win drive will boot as master or whatever ?
[07:41] <Shadowpillar> I notice some syncing probs
[07:41] <NickGarvey> qazqaz70: "sudo mkdir /var/tuxbox"
[07:42] <blatch> i have those
[07:42] <linux__alien> i want to remove the unwanted services that startup during boot.is there any GUI application to stop the unwanted services ?
[07:42] <Shadowpillar> but it isnt that bad
[07:42] <Dev05> K-tron, You have already set the mount points?
[07:42] <NickGarvey> Shadowpillar: works?
[07:42] <DanaG> sgcplayer: I did the same on my system.
[07:42] <DanaG> before I tried Edgy.
[07:42] <Shadowpillar> NickGarvey: yes
[07:42] <Shadowpillar> NickGarvey: alien
[07:42] <NickGarvey> Shadowpillar: nice
[07:42] <linux__alien> there is some dosfsck that runs everytime which increases the boot time i want to stop that
[07:42] <NickGarvey> Shadowpillar: ah :)
[07:42] <DanaG> I made a new partition EXACTLY the same size as the one I was backing up, and then dd'd it over.
[07:42] <bhrobinson> yes, it will boot as the master
[07:42] <K-tron> Dev05-- when I clicked forward, it tried to remove/make all the partitions, and it through up an error about sda3... I'll go back and try again
[07:42] <goatslayer> drbreen:  any other programs?
[07:43] <qazqaz70> success thank u man
[07:43] <Dev05> K-tron, ???
[07:43] <Linuturk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21692 << are my repos updating correctly? what is the difference between Hit, Get, and Ign ?
[07:43] <K-tron> Dev05: *threw up an error, not through
[07:43] <goatslayer> drbreen: i dontwant my class mates to puke lol.
[07:43] <drbreen> goatslayer: what do you want ? just have your fun or seriosly $citpK!ddi3 stuff ?
[07:43] <kerwonz> sorry, i lost grub when i reinstall windows what can i do to get grub_
[07:43] <kerwonz> ?
[07:43] <Dev05> K-tron, I got that, yeah, but, OK, you went forward and you set the mount points. Then you went next again?
[07:44] <qazqaz70> other thing how can drop file from desktop to this dir
[07:44] <sgcplayer> DanaG, can I just copy it?  I have other things on the target partition
[07:44] <drbreen> goatslayer: just wait till the german railway company "deutsche bahn" makes wlan in a train standard. goatse whereever I go !
[07:44] <goatslayer> drbreen: I want fun, or 5cr1pt-k1dd3, just no g04t53
[07:44] <junmin> hi, is there any package used to extract .ace file??
[07:44] <Shadowpillar> NickGarvey: just download the rpms and use alien
[07:44] <IcemanV9> !grub > kerwonz
[07:44] <NickGarvey> Shadowline: yup :)
[07:44] <blatch> NickGarvey, same error :(
[07:44] <bhrobinson> thunder, yes... when I set it to master it works fine
[07:45] <qazqaz70> ???
[07:45] <goatslayer> drbreen: Do you have any  5cr1pt-k1dd3 stuff?
[07:45] <Explicit> ..
[07:45] <K-tron> No, when you hit forward, it asks if you want to apply the pending changes, I said yes, and starts working, then it popups up "Error while creating /dev/sda3"
[07:45] <K-tron> Dev05 No, when you hit forward, it asks if you want to apply the pending changes, I said yes, and starts working, then it popups up "Error while creating /dev/sda3"
[07:45] <|thunder> bhrobinson, this is mine.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21694
[07:46] <Dev05> K-tron, Really? Is there any other info.?
[07:46] <Shadowpillar> NickGarvey: http://marius.scurtescu.com/?p=139
[07:46] <qazqaz70> i have a file in desktop .. how can i drop it in /var/tuxbox ?
[07:46] <Shadowpillar> NickGarvey: best, hassle-free instructions
[07:46] <K-tron> Dev05-- can you confirm that the swap partition is supposed to be a primary partition? and not in the gui, I'll check /var/log/installer
[07:46] <drbreen> goatslayer: even if i had (who knows) - i would not give them to you. messing with others computers is bad. errr... may google help you "auditor whax pentest"
[07:46] <NickGarvey> blatch: odd, you sure you have the headers?
[07:47] <blatch> yeah
[07:47] <Dev05> People out there, when you partition a disk for Ubuntu, the swap partition is like all the rest, right?
[07:47] <qazqaz70> anyone help me please
[07:47] <[Nige] > hi all
[07:47] <|thunder> Dev05, swap has its own format
[07:47] <|thunder> Dev05, not ext3
[07:47] <realist> Dev05: swap partition should be 'at lease' 2x your amount of RAM
[07:47] <PyroManiak> What logs can I check to see whats locking my computer?
[07:47] <ThinkingManc> So I'm a long time windows user migrating to ubuntu, having problems getting WPA to work, specifically I think it's an issue with network manager, anyone willing to help
[07:48] <realist> 'at least'
[07:48] <blatch> although when i ls -l its directory in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-686 it says there's just a bunch of symlinks
[07:48] <XFox_Prower> I have that issue
[07:48] <BNOsaosin> still having troble with 3d on nvidia
[07:48] <qazqaz70> i want drop file from desktop to this direction var/tuxbox
[07:48] <Dev05> |thunder, Yeah, but not like another type of partition, not extended, primary.
[07:48] <ThinkingManc> and I typed my nick wrong
[07:48] <[Nige] > i am trying to get some dead keys on my keyboard to work... I have written down the codes it gave me using showkeys.. how do I acutally use this information
[07:48] <Dev05> |thunder, Right?
[07:48] <|thunder> Dev05, not sure. lemme see what mine is
[07:48] <Dev05> realist, But K-tron has 2GB of RAM, setting his swap to 4GB would be a total waste of space.
[07:49] <NickGarvey> K-tron: wow, 2GB, nice
[07:49] <goatslayer> drbreen: Im just really interested in this stuff....
[07:50] <realist> Dev05: better that, than using "all the rest" of your remaining disk space
[07:50] <drbreen> goatslayer: then look for yourself and see some tutorials - displaying goatse on a fellows laptop is one thing, killing their machines because windows is flawed another. i would do rather the former than the latter.
[07:50] <K-tron> Dev05-- here's my log file: http://ktron.pastebin.com/776231
[07:50] <IcemanV9> qazqaz70: mv <filename> /var/tuxbox/.
[07:50] <Dev05> realist, He did root and home. The rest that must have been like 512 or so for swap.
[07:51] <Dev05> The rest of*
[07:51] <|thunder> Dev05, gparted isnt tellimg me wether or not these are extened
[07:51] <K-tron> Dev05, realist, I tried to set my swap partition to 604.01 MB
[07:51] <luigi_> hey whats up
[07:51] <K-tron> (the attempt that the log file goes with)
[07:52] <Dev05> K-tron, but you cannot set your partition going beyond the HD's limit..
[07:52] <qazqaz70> thank's man
[07:52] <dmb> HellDragon: heres another highlight
[07:53] <K-tron> Dev05, what do you think I did?
[07:53] <HellDragon> dmb: lol
[07:53] <ThinkingMan> Network manager doesn't appear to want to touch my wireless nic, only the wired one
[07:53] <Dev05> K-tron, emm, eh? What was left in the HD?
[07:53] <K-tron> Dev05, I just tried 107.42 GB for sda1 (ext3), 41.04 GB for sda2 (ext3), and 604.01 MB for sda3 (linux-swap)
[07:54] <TheGame> sup guys
[07:54] <luigi_> nothin
[07:54] <TheGame> cool
[07:54] <mtholdenss> hey has anyone here ordered a free ubuntu cd from ubuntu??? if so how long did it take to ship?
[07:54] <K-tron> Dev05, I think that filled the drive
[07:54] <luigi_> 4 months
[07:54] <Dev05> K-tron, Oh, I'm sorry. And it threw an error. I'm still reading the log.
[07:54] <luigi_> for me
[07:54] <xc_legend> a month for me
[07:55] <mtholdenss> 4 months ? a month? lol
[07:55] <ThinkingMan> k, I'm definitely having an issue with network manager
[07:55] <ThinkingMan> although what I'm not sure
[07:56] <ThinkingMan> Anyone familiar with network manager/
[07:56] <K-tron> Dev05, I tried to only capture one attempt in the logfile (there was more in the log from previous attempts before this), but I might have gotten too much, fyi
[07:56] <mtholdenss> i ask cause im just getting frustrated when i do a direct download and somehow the md5 sum doesnt match and its corrupted but i may try torrenting cause ive been told im gurranteed to get the right md5 sum
[07:56] <sgcplayer> Can I just copy my home directory to another partition using cpdir?  All I want to do is back it up in case I mess up the partition it's currently in.
[07:57] <sgcplayer> the target partition already has files in it I want to keep
[07:57] <Dev05> K-tron I don't find anything useful... Those errors may mean that the HD is dead... Can someone check that?
[07:58] <luigi_> anyone get wow working with an ati card?
[07:59] <K-tron> ?? But I was running windows XP Pro on this hard drive tonight
[07:59] <Dev05> K-tron, XP will blacklist the bad clusters.
[07:59] <K-tron> So you think I've been using a horribly messed up hard drive that XP has been coping with...
[08:00] <K-tron> Dev05, alright, I guess it could be... is there a way to check that?
[08:00] <K-tron> Dev05, I have another drive or so, I'll try one of those I guess tomorrow, because 2am is pushing it for me for tonight
[08:01] <Dev05> K-tron, Well, Xp must be gone so I'm thinking of fsck... Or using Xp's booteable CD to check with chkdsk. You tell me.
[08:02] <shadowwlf> how does one find where xchat places logs
[08:02] <dashriKe> look in /home/user/.xchat2/
[08:02] <Dev05> |thunder, Do you know what this could mean: "Error reading inode 63973."
[08:03] <Dev05> realist, Do you know what this could mean: "Error reading inode 63973."
[08:03] <realist> Dev05: filesystem, or hardware error
[08:04] <realist> Might be worthwhile running fsck
[08:04] <Dev05> K-tron, realist, Ok... Well... K-tron, buy a new one! :)
[08:04] <K-tron> so, 'sudo fsck -a /dev/sda >> ~/fscklog.log' would check and I can see... heh, I think I might be :(
[08:04] <DanaG> Use smartctl to check drive health.
[08:04] <realist> Enabling SMART (if supported) is also a good idea
[08:05] <K-tron> SMART?
[08:05] <Dev05> realist, Will it check even the non-paritioned places?
[08:05] <shadowwlf> how to search for xchat logs?
[08:05] <|thunder> Dev05, ive never heard of such a thing
[08:05] <Dev05> K-tron, Yeah, used to be a BIOS setting, I don't know how to enable it in modern PC :)
[08:06] <Dev05> K-tron, for HD access...
[08:06] <K-tron> lol:
[08:06] <dashriKe> shadowwlf :: try in /home/user/.xchat2/
[08:06] <bluefox83> hey, is it possible to change the ubuntu splash image thing ya get when you boot up and it's loading all the modules and such?
[08:06] <jirka> hi, could someone please help me with sound?
[08:06] <K-tron> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fsck -a /dev/sda >> ~/fscklog.log
[08:06] <luigi_> jirka whats wrong with your sound?
[08:06] <K-tron> fsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda
[08:07] <bluefox83> jirka, whats wrong? everything plugged in? funny sounds comin out?
[08:07] <K-tron> damnit :(... ah well, for tomorrow then, thanks a bunch Dev05, I owe you one, maybe with php/mysql ;)
[08:07] <K-tron> or ajax :)
[08:07] <shadowwlf> just want the find cmmand for in terminal
[08:08] <Dev05> K-tron, np. See you tomorrow :)
[08:09] <ciscosurfer> bluefox83: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[08:09] <jirka> luigi - thanks for help - my sound isn't working in ubuntu after install, but from live cd it's ok
[08:10] <nrdb> I have installed and setup vmware-player, it is currently runing ubuntu LiveCD 6.06, but the fake HDD doesn't seem to be at /dev/hda can some help?
[08:10] <rdz> anyone's using the ninotine soulseek client? what am i supposed to enter in th user- and password field?
[08:11] <rdz> *nicotine
[08:11] <luigi_> jirka one sec
[08:11] <bluefox83> oh hey..how do i make my system mount my second hard drive every time it boots up?
[08:11] <jirka> bluefox83 - yes, sometimes it crazy peeps when ubuntu is starting
[08:11] <shadowwlf> just looking for the right format in terminal to do a find ~ for xchat logs
[08:11] <|thunder> bluefox83, need to edit /etc/fstab properly
[08:12] <sgcplayer> Can I just copy my home directory to another partition using cpdir?  All I want to do is back it up in case I mess up the partition it's currently in.  The target partition already has files on it I want to keep.
[08:12] <bluefox83> jirka, startup is the only time it sounds funny?
[08:12] <rdz> bluefox83, just edit your /etc/fstab
[08:12] <nrdb> bluefox83: in the fstab add an 'auto' to the options for that HDD
[08:12] <bluefox83> ah thanks folks
[08:12] <luigi_> jirka - follow this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[08:12] <luigi_> it helped , i had the same problem
[08:12] <jirka> bluefox83 and after that nothing is working...
[08:13] <jirka> luigi_ - ok, I follow it now, I hope that it helps, thanks for now..
[08:14] <ciscosurfer> Was someone having trouble with screen resolutions??
[08:15] <Dev05> Bye people.
[08:15] <bluefox83> kinda like this?  /dev/hdb2       /d2             ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[08:16] <bluefox83> or should i put auto instead of the errors= stuff?
[08:17] <shadowwlf> why doen't people just give the context for a search in terminal
[08:18] <bluefox83> o.o
[08:18] <bluefox83> whah?
[08:18] <mikey3521> Hey everyone, Anyone here able to offer a little support??
[08:18] <dmsantam> mikey3521, everyone is here to offer support
[08:18] <bluefox83> mikey3521, that's what this channel is for..so you might want to be a little more specific
[08:18] <intrico> shadowwlf: there's no program installed by default to make it that easy
[08:19] <dmsantam> mikey3521, what you just asked is like going into an icecream store and asking if anyone wants to sell icecream
[08:19] <bluefox83> lol dmsantam
[08:19] <dmsantam> :)
[08:19] <mikey3521> :) haha what can I say i'm new to the whole community thing.
[08:20] <shadowwlf> been trying to find general logs in xchat via terminal-one gave me the right format a few days ago something like find ~./
[08:20] <mikey3521> Well, to the point then, i've got a DellPowerEdge 6350/500 laying around, and was trying to install ubuntu on it. But i'm returning alot of error's, not finding any harddrives... etc etc, If you give me one quick second i'll beable to type out the error's as im booting it up now.
[08:20] <bluefox83> mikey3521, pop the installer cd in and see if that works
[08:21] <dashriKe> shadowwlf :: try: find ~/ -name '*xchat*'
[08:21] <dashriKe> or something similar
[08:21] <mikey3521> that's what i'm doing right now, the installer cd is what gives me the error's.
[08:21] <mikey3521> it's just running threw all my startup junk, firmware etc etc, i'll be at the set-up screen in a moment.
[08:22] <dmsantam> mikey3521, does it run fine just as a livecd?
[08:22] <mikey3521> Okey heres what I get:
[08:22] <varsendaggr> hey how do i get gmailfs working?
[08:23] <varsendaggr> i need help with it
[08:23] <mikey3521> Uncompressing linux... ok, booting the kernel.  hub 1-0:1.0: over-current change on port 2
[08:23] <mikey3521> then it just hang's....
[08:24] <alanhiggins> anybody have some good advice for me if i'm switching from a mac and windows both
[08:24] <ubuntu> NickGarvey
[08:24] <jirka> luigi_ my chipset isn't listed in the list on http://www.alsa-project.org/ but a lot of relatives are...
[08:25] <jirka> luigi_ - can I do something?
[08:25] <PyroManiak> Anyone know how to figure out what makes my machine hardlock? (its something in linux thats occuring from something I changed)
[08:25] <NickGarvey> ubuntu
[08:25] <luigi_> jirka one sec
[08:25] <dmsantam> mikey3521, no idea about that one
[08:25] <dmsantam> mikey3521, might just want to google it. sorry
[08:25] <ubuntu> NickGarvey who are you ?
[08:26] <NickGarvey> ubuntu: a pretty cool guy
[08:26] <mikey3521> alright, thank you anyways dmsantam
[08:26] <dmsantam> np
[08:26] <qazqaz70> how can i rename and folder by sudo command
[08:26] <qazqaz70> ??
[08:26] <ubuntu> NickGarvey why does you name come up whan i try to change my nic?
[08:26] <NickGarvey> qazqaz70: just move it to a new name
[08:26] <NickGarvey> ubuntu: hehe, because you are hitting tab, type "/nick Something"
[08:27] <qazqaz70> how ?
[08:27] <qazqaz70> by sudo cmd
[08:27] <NickGarvey> qazqaz70: "mv folder newname"
[08:27] <NickGarvey> jones20992: :)
[08:27] <jones20992> thats alot better
[08:27] <NickGarvey> qazqaz70: "sudo mv folder newname"
[08:27] <qazqaz70> ok
[08:27] <qazqaz70> thank's i will see now
[08:27] <jones20992> NickGarvey thanks had a few to meny tonight :)
[08:27] <varsendaggr> i am getting unknown filesystem tipe
[08:28] <bluefox83> O.o
[08:28] <NickGarvey> jones20992: ;)
[08:28] <varsendaggr> 'gmailfs'
[08:28] <NickGarvey> varsendaggr: oh I think that needs to be compiled into your kernel..
[08:28] <NickGarvey> varsendaggr: I bet you could make it a module
[08:28] <luigi_> jirka -  try typing in alsamixer in the terminal and make surer non of the things are on mute
[08:28] <jones20992> NickGarvey since i got you do you know how i can add repos ?
[08:29] <linux__alien> i want to stop the unwanted services during Startup . Is there any GUI application to stop the unwanted services
[08:29] <varsendaggr> NickGarvey, how could i do that
[08:29] <NickGarvey> varsendaggr: actually I can't find it, one second
[08:30] <varsendaggr> linux__alien, system  administarion  -->  services
[08:30] <jirka> luigi_ - ok, but this I don' catch - I'm sorry. Where I should be writing in termiinal? What is alsamixer?
[08:30] <mikey3521> Hey, Would anyone know which port's I have to open on my router for bind9? it's 53 correct?
[08:30] <jirka> luigi_ - I'm fresh rookie (but terminal I know :-))
[08:31] <NickGarvey> varsendaggr: oh, you need fuse
[08:31] <linux__alien> varsendaggr, but that does not show everything. Ubuntu runs dosfsck everytime it takes lot of time but this GUI application does not show all the services
[08:31] <NickGarvey> varsendaggr: http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem-installing.html
[08:31] <varsendaggr> NickGarvey, i think i installed fuse
[08:31] <luigi_> jirka - just type alsamixer in the terminal and press enter
[08:32] <jones20992> NickGarvey whats that url to ?
[08:32] <jones20992> opps sorry
[08:32] <jones20992> nevermind
[08:32] <varsendaggr> linux__alien, if you go to system preferences sessions you will find it
[08:34] <jones20992> jirka how do you turn on the colors like in gentoo
[08:34] <jirka> jones20992 - what?
[08:34] <mtholdenss> new holden commodore documentery on channel 9 right now
[08:35] <jones20992> jirka so you know a bunch about terminal?
[08:35] <qazqaz70> other question
[08:35] <ZeronenoreZ> how to add a password to grub?
[08:35] <roboboy> hello
[08:35] <qazqaz70> i want add other language
[08:35] <varsendaggr> NickGarvey, yeah i read through that and i think i did everything
[08:35] <jones20992> HOLDEN ROCKS!
[08:36] <qazqaz70> i want use other language same time ...like windows .. iuse for change by shift ctrl
[08:36] <roboboy> ive been having problems with terminatorx and saving my mixes as audio files or opening them outside of terminatorx
[08:36] <varsendaggr> hey how do i update the db    for Slocate?
[08:36] <ZeronenoreZ> qazqaz70 just to http://wiki.ubuntu.org.cn/index/guide/ if u are a chinese
[08:36] <qazqaz70> i'm arabic
[08:36] <jirka> jones20992 - a little...
[08:37] <ZeronenoreZ> qazqaz70,go home site of ubuntu and choose wiki
[08:37] <qazqaz70> i try to add my language but when i use i cant chang to english againe
[08:38] <ZeronenoreZ> qazqaz70, when u log to x windows u can choose language to english
[08:38] <qazqaz70> how?
[08:38] <qazqaz70> please i dont understand
[08:38] <linux__alien> i am unable to watch videos using Movie Player. I am unable to play mpg files though i get the audio i dont get the video. instead of the video i get some visualizations stuff
[08:39] <linux__alien> i ve installed the required plugins
[08:39] <ZeronenoreZ> qazqaz70.Ctril-Alt-backspace
[08:39] <ZeronenoreZ> u will see
[08:39] <qazqaz70> now i will try
[08:40] <ZeronenoreZ> linux__alien,try realplayer
[08:40] <qazqaz70> not success
[08:40] <linux__alien> ZeronenoreZ, why real player whats wrong with Movie Player
[08:40] <linux__alien> the Experience Ubuntu.ogg works but others dont
[08:40] <Axe_> Will ubuntu run as server on a comp with 256mb ram and 400mhz pII?
[08:41] <dmsantam> Axe_, yes
[08:41] <dmsantam> Axe_, though you might want to try xubuntu
[08:41] <ZeronenoreZ> linux__alien, no i just give u a suggestion
[08:41] <ZeronenoreZ> linux__alien, i always see movies in windows
[08:41] <bluefox83> Axe_, depends on what kind fo server you want...
[08:42] <bluefox83> *of
[08:42] <linux__alien> ZeronenoreZ, Got it working thanks didnt install gstreamer-plugins-bad
[08:42] <linux__alien> Its working now
[08:42] <qazqaz70> please fix this
[08:42] <Axe_> If I have some hard drives on an adaptec scsi card, will it be hard to get ubuntu to install on them?
[08:42] <qazqaz70> i want use both language
[08:42] <ZeronenoreZ> linux__alien :)  my pleasure
[08:42] <DeMoNSeEd> qazqaz70,
[08:42] <qazqaz70> yes
[08:43] <DeMoNSeEd> you know where you put name and password to log on?
[08:43] <qazqaz70> no
[08:43] <qazqaz70> u mean first time
[08:43] <linkslice> anyone running mythtv?
[08:43] <Deaigo>  16:41:48 up 20:42,  3 users,  load average: 40.94, 33.78, 28.39
[08:43] <Deaigo> go me
[08:43] <DeMoNSeEd> when you start ubuntu, you havve to put your name and password
[08:44] <qazqaz70> ues
[08:44] <qazqaz70> yes
[08:44] <DeMoNSeEd> ok
[08:44] <DeMoNSeEd> good
[08:44] <DeMoNSeEd> bottom left corner
[08:44] <DeMoNSeEd> Options
[08:44] <ZeronenoreZ> qazqaz70, yeah
[08:44] <DeMoNSeEd> click that
[08:44] <roboboy> is terminatorx supposed to output audio files
[08:44] <DeMoNSeEd> choose LANGUAGE
[08:44] <ZeronenoreZ> qazqaz70,that's it
[08:44] <qazqaz70> i will see .. really i dont remmeber
[08:44] <DeMoNSeEd> you will
[08:45] <Shadowpillar> on ubuntu 64, is downloading mplayer 686 the same as the 386 package?
[08:45] <ZeronenoreZ> qazqaz70 just follow this: Options-Language-English
[08:45] <qazqaz70> my friend the problem when i use english i cant write arabic ..and when i use arabic i cant change to english same time
[08:46] <DeMoNSeEd> ok, i misunderstood
[08:46] <qazqaz70> please
[08:46] <DeMoNSeEd> i thought you just wanted to change default language
[08:46] <mikey3521> Hey what's this mean, i'm trying to install ubuntu, and i get this:    partman: no matching physical volumes found. <br> No Volume groups found <br> Reading all pyhsical volumes. This may take a while..
[08:46] <qazqaz70> u know windows ? right ?
[08:46] <DeMoNSeEd> i've heard of it yes
[08:47] <qazqaz70> i can use there both language same time by ctrl +shift bottom
[08:47] <tom47> mikey3521 its a message from the partition manager ..... i dont know specifically what it means .. what were you trying to do with the partitions?
[08:48] <mikey3521> tom47: Trying to install unbuntu.
[08:48] <Axe_> if I have a few harddrives on an adaptec scsi card, will it be hard to get ubuntu to install t them?
[08:48] <Axe_> to
[08:48] <tom47> have you installed a linux previously?
[08:48] <DeMoNSeEd> ok, i understand now
[08:48] <mikey3521> tom47: it gets back detecting network, dhcp, then it hangs on a blue screen, if I alt-F4 it, thats the messages I see.
[08:48] <DeMoNSeEd> hmm 1 sec
[08:48] <qazqaz70> anyone hlep me please
[08:48] <qazqaz70> ok
[08:48] <mikey3521> tom47: Not on this machine, no.
[08:49] <tom47> have you installed ubuntu beforre?
[08:49] <ZeronenoreZ> qazqaz70, u SCIM?
[08:49] <mikey3521> yes
[08:49] <jirka> please, which soundcard is good supporter in ubuntu? my sound chipset on my motherboard is not...
[08:49] <blacking> possible boot dapper or other version from a stick usb with apple hw?
[08:49] <ZeronenoreZ> qazqaz70, u mean SCIM?
[08:50] <tom47> ok it sounds like yur partition setup is invalid for some reason
[08:50] <tom47> partman=partition manager
[08:50] <qazqaz70> what's SCIM
[08:50] <mikey3521> Do you know how I can fix? It's a dell poweredge 6350
[08:51] <shawnr_> !SCIM
[08:51] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[08:51] <tom47> mikey3521 i personally would be tempted to do another install and carefully ensure the partion aspect is done correctly
[08:51] <snadge> im having all sorts of trouble compiling a program called legasynth (it is not packaged in ubuntu), i've installed all the libraries i could think of that it would need and its failing to compile.. does anybody feel bored enough to help? :)
[08:51] <mikey3521> thats what im trying todo, it's not even getting to the install.
[08:51] <ZeronenoreZ> qazqaz70 do u have ubuntu site u own country, go there and choose wiki and all answer are there
[08:51] <mikey3521> im getting this during the install process
[08:52] <tom47> ok then start from the beginning again
[08:52] <qazqaz70> look .. now i use english ok .. when i brows internet all ok only when i want logon with arabic site i want logon by aarabic word like that
[08:52] <customer> J
[08:52] <ZeronenoreZ> change language of the UTF-8
[08:52] <ZeronenoreZ> qazqaz70,change language of the UTF-8
[08:52] <DeMoNSeEd> hmm
[08:53] <ZeronenoreZ> qazqaz70,ubuntu wiki will teach u how to du
[08:53] <qazqaz70> ok thank's my friend
[08:53] <qazqaz70> other
[08:53] <DeMoNSeEd> only thing i can think of is to go to System>Admin>Language Support and change it for that site
[08:53] <ZeronenoreZ> pkeasure dude
[08:53] <qazqaz70> how can i open ports
[08:53] <DeMoNSeEd> then change it back when you are done
[08:54] <richiefrich> lo
[08:54] <qazqaz70> or forward ports
[08:54] <DeMoNSeEd> qazqaz70, try that
[08:54] <tom47> mikey3521 is fedora core installed on the computer?
[08:55] <qazqaz70> i do all with language control but not success
[08:55] <mikey3521> no
[08:55] <DeMoNSeEd> then, i'm sorry, but i don't know
[08:55] <mikey3521> theres nothing installed.
[08:56] <ZeronenoreZ> qazqaz70,http://wiki.ubuntu.org.cn/index/guide/InstallExtraFonts
[08:56] <Shin_Gouki> hi i got a question, if i install xbunutu on my pc , is there a CD burning programmincluded?
[08:56] <tom47> mikey ok
[08:56] <tom47> not even windows?
[08:56] <mikey3521> no
[08:57] <DeMoNSeEd> qazqaz70,
[08:57] <h2> Shin_Gouki, no but you can install gnomebaker
[08:57] <DeMoNSeEd> did you try changing the language in forefox preferences
[08:57] <DeMoNSeEd> *firefox
[08:57] <qazqaz70> i go from adminstrator and language support
[08:57] <qazqaz70> ok
[08:58] <Shin_Gouki> h2 thx a lot!
[08:58] <h2> Shin_Gouki, no problem
[08:59] <joemauch> how can i backup my ubuntu install?
[08:59] <shawnr_> you can't, only windows can run backups
[08:59] <shawnr_> ;p
[08:59] <DeMoNSeEd> qazqaz70, in preferences advanced
[08:59] <qazqaz70> my language not include there
[08:59] <shawnr_> lol
[08:59] <Shin_Gouki> is there a "better" non-gnome CD/dvd write programm?
[08:59] <DeMoNSeEd> add language if you need to
[08:59] <tom47> mikey3521 it sounds like the hard disk is not partitioned at all to me ..... let me boot up the dapper livecd here
[08:59] <rdz> joemauch, have alook at rsnapshot
[09:00] <DeMoNSeEd> add it
[09:00] <mikey3521> ok
[09:00] <h2> Shin_Gouki, i've heard k3b is pretty good
[09:00] <mikey3521> could it have todo with the fact that my dell use's somthing called "perc"
[09:00] <DeMoNSeEd> click Edit Languages
[09:00] <shawnr_> Shin_Gouki, or i think there is somthing called 'gravedigger' or somthing like that thats supposed to be good
[09:00] <DeMoNSeEd> then you see add
[09:00] <DeMoNSeEd> beside add you see select
[09:01] <DeMoNSeEd> select, then add
[09:01] <Shin_Gouki> h2, :/ do i really neet KdE? i canlive with QT but...
[09:01] <qazqaz70> i try that
[09:01] <DeMoNSeEd> ok
[09:02] <tom47> mikey3521 i dont know dell and i dont know perc
[09:02] <mikey3521> okey well i've got this perc utility formatting my harddrive, so i'm going to try that, then try again.
[09:02] <Nameless_> could someone help me with xchat?
[09:02] <tom47> what model is it again?
[09:03] <DeMoNSeEd> xchat?
[09:03] <Nameless_> yes
[09:03] <DeMoNSeEd> ask
[09:03] <tom47> mikey3521 sounds like a good move to me
[09:03] <Nameless_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/CIU3lH57.html <--- this
[09:04] <NickGarvey> what do these permissions mean?  "d-wxrwS--t 2 root root    18 Aug 14 02:18 distcc"
[09:04] <h2> Shin_Gouki, if you want to use k3b you have to install kde
[09:04] <bluefox83> it means if you can't use sudo you're shit up a creek without a paddle
[09:04] <mikey3521> 6350
[09:04] <Shin_Gouki> h2, :O to bad
[09:05] <Shin_Gouki> h2 i want then till G3b comes out ;)
[09:05] <h2> Shin_Gouki, lol ok
[09:05] <Shin_Gouki> ^^
[09:06] <DeMoNSeEd> Nameless_, i can't lok right now, tell us
[09:06] <DeMoNSeEd> qazqaz70, is okay?
[09:06] <Nameless_> error in make xchat
[09:07] <DeMoNSeEd> ah
[09:07] <roboboy> is terminatorx meant to save as audio files
[09:07] <DeMoNSeEd> you didn't just grab it from repos
[09:07] <Shin_Gouki> h2, can i also use the gnomebake wirh xfce?
[09:07] <Nameless_> i've tried to compile the last release :P
[09:07] <h2> Shin_Gouki, yep
[09:08] <DeMoNSeEd> i assume you installed build-essential
[09:08] <Shin_Gouki> h2, nice :)
[09:08] <Nameless_> DeMoNSeEd: yes
[09:09] <DeMoNSeEd> k
[09:09] <DeMoNSeEd> maybe someone can take a looksee at your paste
[09:09] <Nameless_> no error in ./configure
[09:09] <Nameless_> but in make yes
[09:09] <Nameless_> i think xchat can't find perl libs
[09:10] <DeMoNSeEd> ah
[09:10] <qazqaz70> thank's alot for u
[09:10] <DeMoNSeEd> it worked?
[09:11] <whitehorseNtiger> allot or a lot
[09:11] <bluefox83> Nameless_, why the hell are you building xchat from source? it's in the repositories as a binary...
[09:11] <qazqaz70> me no but i make u tired with me
[09:11] <user_> hi, is anyone else having troubles accessing ubuntuguide.org ?
[09:11] <Nameless_> bluefox83: i can't ? o_O
[09:11] <chphilli> Does anyone know of a workaround for the crashing bug with fglrx and X ( I think the 686 kernel is involved too ) ?
[09:11] <bluefox83> Nameless_, can't what?
[09:12] <RadiantFire> nothing wrong with building things from source
[09:12] <DeMoNSeEd> that was the last thing i could think of
[09:12] <RadiantFire> Nameless_: can you paste the first error line you see in the build process?
[09:12] <Nameless_> ok
[09:12] <bluefox83> no..but i doubt Nameless_ knows how to make it into a .deb later for easier removal and extraction
[09:12] <Nameless_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/CIU3lH57.html
[09:13] <bluefox83> Nameless_, if you can compile something from source, you can download xchat from the repository
[09:13] <Nameless_> bluefox83: i want to try the 2.6.6 source, can't i try ?
[09:13] <Nameless_> :\
[09:13] <bluefox83> you are using dapper right Nameless_ ?
[09:13] <user_> hi, is anyone else having troubles accessing ubuntuguide.org ?
[09:13] <Nameless_> yes
[09:13] <bluefox83> uhm...i guess
[09:14] <tom47> user ubuntuguide comes up here ok
[09:14] <user_> tom47, thanks
[09:14] <bluefox83> hey...how come the sysinfo util for xchat says i am running debian unstable/testing?
[09:14] <chphilli> user_: ubuntuguide.org is a little slow, but comes up for me
[09:14] <user_> The server at www.ubuntuguide.org is taking too long to respond.
[09:15] <RadiantFire> huh, and here I didn't even know you could link perl
[09:15] <RadiantFire> Nameless_: go into synaptic and do a search for perl 5.8 or something
[09:15] <user_> can someone please give me the URL that it passes you on to? I think ubuntuguide.org is simply a redirect
[09:15] <tom47> user http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[09:15] <user_> thanks
[09:15] <Nameless_> ok, wait
[09:15] <RadiantFire> Nameless_: or better, try installling apt-get build-dep xchat
[09:15] <RadiantFire> Nameless_: have you done sudo apt-get build-dep xchat
[09:16] <mikey3521> tom47, any thoughts? i'm still waiting on this format... which is taking quiet a while.
[09:16] <RadiantFire> thats the easiest way of building thins in the repos
[09:16] <Flannel> user_: wiki.ubuntu.com has more correct information
[09:16] <Nameless_> _
[09:16] <user_> Flannel, thx
[09:17] <tom47> mikey3521 i have done a bit of googling ..... def seems to be related to the need to establish partitions first by the look of it but thats about all i can say withut having it sitting in front of me to intelligently comment on sorry
[09:17] <Nameless_> I seguenti pacchetti NUOVI (NEW) saranno installati: dpatch libdbus-glib-1-dev liblaunchpad-integration-dev libperl-dev python2.4-dev
[09:17] <chphilli> Anyone have any experience with fglrx crashing their machine?
[09:17] <mikey3521> but how can I do that, if the partition manager never come's up?
[09:17] <dmsantam> Nameless_, #ubuntu-it
[09:18] <Nameless_> lol :O
[09:18] <Nameless_> you speak italian or u are italian ? :E
[09:19] <dmsantam> si, parlo italiano
[09:19] <Nameless_> ok
[09:21] <tom47> mikey3521 ... if you go back and boot up the livecd then gparted (partition manager) is accessib;e under System>Administration>Gnome Pratition Editor ..... try using that to set up the partitions befre you go to installation
[09:22] <user_> I have an onboard VGA card with VIA/S3G Unichrome chipset. Does anyone know if I can get drivers for ubuntu?
[09:22] <ubuntu> hi guys
[09:22] <user_> hi ubotu
[09:22] <user_> i mean ubuntu
[09:22] <ubuntu> hi user_
[09:22] <ubuntu> hi Flannel
[09:22] <dmsantam> ubuntu, you're here! you're everywhere
[09:22] <mikey3521> thank you very much, i'll try that right now.
[09:23] <tom47> user does the ubuntu livecd work ok when you use it?  if so then they will be there already
[09:23] <ubuntu> dmsantam: lol, yes i'm :)
[09:23] <ubuntu> yay
[09:23] <BHSPitLappy> serious problem: I installed ubuntu for a friend, it worked great, he rebooted, and then when he logged in, he got a cursor and a blank brown screen. Now I instructed him to kill X, and the gdm login hasn't returned. Has anybody heard of this happening??
[09:23] <ubuntu> i got slackware/ubuntu running dual boot :)
[09:23] <user_> tom47, yes it detects and installs as VESA by default, but google earth is complaining about software emulation so I wanted to know if I can actually get the correct drivers for my hardware, instead of generic
[09:23] <dmsantam> BHSPitLappy, never heard of that
[09:23] <dmsantam> BHSPitLappy, /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:23] <tom47> user_ oh ok sorry cannot help further than that
[09:23] <BHSPitLappy> this happened with two separate friends I've installed for.
[09:24] <BHSPitLappy> dmsantam, does it need to be sudo
[09:24] <ubuntu> BHSPitLappy:  cause u killed it :O
[09:24] <dmsantam> BHSPitLappy, yes
[09:24] <dmsantam> BHSPitLappy, i should have specified that, sorry
[09:24] <BHSPitLappy> ubuntu, it usually comes right back after a kill.
[09:26] <BHSPitLappy> heh well he panicked and rebooted, let's see if the same problem happens again.
[09:26] <ubuntu> BHSPitLappy:  if that dont work try kdm ;)
[09:26] <BHSPitLappy> ubuntu, we don't solve problems by resorting to less preferable products ;)
[09:27] <Nameless_> make[3] : *** [tclplugin.lo]  Error 1
[09:27] <Nameless_> make[3] : Leaving directory `/home/hybrid/xchat-2.6.6/plugins/tcl'
[09:27] <ubuntu> i did not know kdm was less prefered :p
[09:27] <Nameless_> damn it
[09:27] <Nameless_> :E
[09:27] <ubuntu> haha
[09:29] <mikey3521> Where can I find the live cd iso?
[09:29] <brendon> hi there  one and all
[09:29] <NickGarvey> Nameeater: thats actually not the error that we need, could you pastebin a few lines higher than that?
[09:30] <ubuntu> mikey try ubuntu.org
[09:30] <mtholdenss> www.releases.ubunut.com
[09:30] <brendon> hey all when the ubuntu  council  hold there meetings  do they relay it on here?
[09:31] <ujjwal> I have a laptop with the integrated intel 910gml graphics. I am using the i810 driver, and although it works fine, the performance of 3d games is far below windows. Is there any way to improve performance?
[09:31] <mtholdenss> : is getting a iso image more secure off a torrent or direct download?
[09:32] <mtholdenss> [5:16pm]  mtholdenss_: all my direct downloads of ubuntu have the wrong md5 sum and corrupt
[09:32] <mikey3521> >
[09:32] <ubuntu> mtholdenss:  i mostly use direct download , if option avails
[09:32] <DeMoNSeEd> yup
[09:32] <brendon> mtholdenss: i get mine direct downmload as well never had anyproblems
[09:33] <brendon> DeMoNSeEd:  yup to what
[09:33] <DeMoNSeEd> direct download
[09:33] <DeMoNSeEd> sorry
[09:33] <brendon> no worries
[09:34] <DeMoNSeEd> it was a yup in the wild
[09:34] <ubuntu> lol
[09:34] <ubuntu> hey DeMoNSeEd
[09:34] <ubuntu> hi brendon
[09:34] <DeMoNSeEd> hi
[09:34] <brendon> hi ubuntu
[09:34] <DeMoNSeEd> nice name
[09:34] <brendon> awe thanks
[09:34] <DeMoNSeEd> lol
[09:34] <DeMoNSeEd> i meant ubuntu
[09:35] <mtholdenss> im doing a torrent download at the moment once thats done  and the md5 sum doesnt match im just going to wait for my free ubuntu cd or go to the newsagents and get a linux mag
[09:35] <brendon> opps hehe
[09:35] <ubuntu> ty
[09:35] <ubuntu> :)
[09:35] <DeMoNSeEd> but, taking nothing away from yours
[09:35] <brendon> who in here is a ubuntu member?
[09:35] <DeMoNSeEd> define member
[09:35] <Madpilot> mtholdenss, bittorrent has built-in error catching, you should get a good download w/ BT
[09:35] <brendon> ty
[09:35] <ubuntu> DeMoNSeEd:  u know bout rsync?
[09:36] <ompaul> brendon, there are several of us
[09:36] <DeMoNSeEd> i know of it
[09:36] <DeMoNSeEd> never used it
[09:36] <Madpilot> brendon, anyone with ubuntu/member/ in their hostmask is an Ubuntu Member ;)
[09:36] <brendon> why not order your copies from shipit
[09:36] <ubuntu> does it support resume feature?
[09:36] <DeMoNSeEd> i'd be lying if i said i knew
[09:36] <ompaul> ubuntu, torrent does it is one if its features
[09:36] <DeMoNSeEd> having never used it, i honestly do not know
[09:36] <ubuntu> ompaul: i'm talking bout rsync
[09:37] <ubuntu> DeMoNSeEd: kool, np
[09:37] <mtholdenss> yeh hopefully this torrent comes through fine if not ill just be patient :) but in the past when i installed ubuntu it was ok a bit buggy but now checking the md5 sum to what it should be makes sesne to what happened im glad im checking to make sure if its right save cds
[09:37] <ompaul> ubuntu, k sorry
[09:37] <brendon> ok  just that i have have been wanting to become a member but on the website say that you have to be at the meeting  abit hard when you live in new zealand
[09:37] <ompaul> mtholdenss, make sure you do the md5sum on the downloaded image
[09:37] <ubuntu> ompaul: np :)
[09:37] <ompaul> mtholdenss, and burn the cd slowly say 4x is a bit low but 8 or lower
[09:37] <mtholdenss> yeh thats what ive been doing and i plan on doing that before i burn a disk
[09:38] <DeMoNSeEd> did you use the live mtholdenss
[09:38] <ompaul> brendon, I would never be able to get the amount of CDs I do if I relied only on shipit
[09:38] <mtholdenss> im not sure i just got the ubuntu desktop 6.06.1 iso
[09:38] <Madpilot> brendon, the meetings are all on IRC
[09:38] <DeMoNSeEd> i burn at 4x all the time
[09:38] <DeMoNSeEd> live then
[09:39] <DeMoNSeEd> i never use it
[09:39] <ubuntu> mtholdenss:  get the alternat version
[09:39] <DeMoNSeEd> right
[09:39] <ubuntu> it supports text-based installer too
[09:39] <brendon> oh ok  yes but major time differance though ae
[09:39] <DeMoNSeEd> alternate is far better
[09:39] <mtholdenss> i directly downloaded that same iso both times with both different md5 sum, somethings  up with that...
[09:39] <mtholdenss> the alternate?
[09:39] <DeMoNSeEd> yes
[09:39] <Madpilot> brendon, well, they try and move the times around to get as many ppl as possible
[09:39] <mtholdenss> whats the difference
[09:40] <ubuntu> it supports text-based installer too
[09:40] <Madpilot> mtholdenss, desktop is the liveCD, alternate is just the installer CD
[09:40] <DeMoNSeEd> everyone is different, but that being said, the live to Hd is a pita to me
[09:40] <brendon> ok cool  what time is the next meeting as i'll have to try and figure out the time zone  differance
[09:40] <mtholdenss> does the installer cd have the same gui installer that the live cd has?
[09:41] <DeMoNSeEd> different, but painfully easy
[09:41] <brendon> i have found the alt cd better as takes up less resources  if you have a slower machine
[09:41] <Madpilot> brendon, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[09:41] <mtholdenss> less resources?
[09:42] <DeMoNSeEd> try it mtholdenss
[09:42] <DeMoNSeEd> it's very simple
[09:42] <seatouch> !ftp
[09:42] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[09:42] <brendon> ok having a look but  most of my work is done in the community  advocating and helping others that way haven't been doing much online so how could that help me become a member?
[09:42] <mtholdenss> smaller iso image?
[09:42] <DeMoNSeEd> if you can read you can install
[09:43] <ubuntu> mtholdenss: just try it dude :p
[09:43] <ubuntu> lol
[09:43] <DeMoNSeEd> desktop 698
[09:43] <DeMoNSeEd> alternate 692
[09:43] <ubuntu> nothing like coffee :)
[09:43] <DeMoNSeEd> look here, easier than the huge list you're probably lookin at
[09:43] <Madpilot> brendon, you'd need to get witnesses or similar for advocacy work - it is hard to track
[09:44] <DeMoNSeEd> http://www.gotux.org/index.php?page/ubuntu
[09:44] <ubuntu> and angelina jplie :x
[09:44] <ubuntu> joile*
[09:44] <tn3270> hee
[09:44] <fredl> hi. Does anybody use lirc?
[09:44] <DeMoNSeEd> i'd skip the coffee
[09:44] <ubuntu> lol
[09:44] <mtholdenss> the end result i want is to have a 15Gb partition with ubuntu on it and a 60 GIG hard drive partition for xp
[09:44] <brendon> ok  how about get some people to email  one of the member or  the likes
[09:46] <DeMoNSeEd> that help you any mtholdenss ?
[09:47] <ubuntu> i do have to update my os
[09:47] <ubuntu> still on 5 here
[09:47] <Madpilot> brendon, to be honest, I'm not sure how the community council would 'measure' advocacy. I'd advise attending one of the CC meetings and observing first, there might be a chance to ask questions - you could add yourself to the agenda
[09:47] <ubuntu> :(
[09:47] <Madpilot> !upgrade
[09:47] <DeMoNSeEd> update?
[09:47] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[09:47] <Madpilot> ubuntu, ^^^
[09:47] <ubuntu> Madpilot:  yep got it
[09:47] <ubuntu> ty
[09:47] <Madpilot> np
[09:47] <DeMoNSeEd> what are you running?
[09:47] <ubuntu> ubotu:  ty :)
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ty :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <ubuntu> lol he is a funny help bot :)
[09:48] <W_McL> lol
[09:48] <DeMoNSeEd> yeah, that's one word for it
[09:49] <ubuntu> i'm running ubutnu 5 for now
[09:49] <mtholdenss> yeh sorta, u get my message about what i want the end result?
[09:49] <ubuntu> dual booting with slackware
[09:49] <DeMoNSeEd> geez
[09:49] <DeMoNSeEd> Hoary?
[09:49] <ubuntu> breezy
[09:49] <DeMoNSeEd> ah
[09:49] <DeMoNSeEd> 2.12
[09:49] <DeMoNSeEd> move up to speed
[09:49] <brendon> ok  thanks for that  i have just had a look it is 10am my time so that is cool, just  i have been reading up and they do say on there  website  that advocacy  is considered as well
[09:49] <DeMoNSeEd> 2.14, sweet
[09:50] <ubuntu> yep will do today
[09:50] <ubuntu> i was trying to get dual boot working
[09:50] <ubuntu> gentoo/ubuntu
[09:50] <ubuntu> guess what?
[09:50] <Madpilot> brendon, yes, advocacy helps. Are you involved in any of the Ubuntu teams?
[09:50] <DeMoNSeEd> now that's a dual boot
[09:50] <ubuntu> gentoo was hard on me ;))
[09:50] <ubuntu> lol
[09:50] <DeMoNSeEd> lol
[09:50] <mtholdenss> demonseed u get that message? or did my connection time out
[09:50] <Madpilot> ubuntu, could you ease up on your Entre key a bit, please? One line per sentence...
[09:50] <DeMoNSeEd> nope no message
[09:51] <Madpilot> Enter key, even... ;)
[09:51] <ubuntu> Madpilot: xcuse me?
[09:51] <mtholdenss> the end result i want is to have a 15Gb partition with ubuntu on it and a 60 GIG hard drive partition for xp
[09:51] <brendon> i have put forward to join  but haven't been accepted  have put forward for newusers  and a couple of otheres
[09:51] <PyroManiak> Anyone know a way to display smaller icons for the Nautilus bar?
[09:51] <DeMoNSeEd> ubuntu, are you registered on freenode?
[09:51] <ubuntu> DeMoNSeEd: nope
[09:51] <DeMoNSeEd> you should
[09:51] <ubuntu> i just recently joined irc
[09:51] <ubuntu> i'm new to it
[09:52] <Madpilot> ubuntu, using three or four lines per sentence can be considered spamming, especially on a busy channel like this one...
[09:52] <DeMoNSeEd> then we could pm and keep room clearer
[09:52] <ubuntu> Madpilot:  i'll keep that in mind, sorry for the incovience
[09:52] <TheGateKeeper> ubuntu: using the default name is a bit of a give away :-)
[09:52] <mtholdenss> brb
[09:53] <ubuntu> i'll register
[09:53] <DeMoNSeEd> good idear
[09:53] <DeMoNSeEd> in the end it helps
[09:55] <Madpilot> brendon, just showing up (on IRC & mailing lists) and starting to help/contribute is the best way to get accepted to teams. Several use membership as a reward, not a prerequisite
[09:55] <fredl> Hrrmm configuring lirc is tricky it seems
[09:56] <SlaSheR84> is it posible to run x over ssh?
[09:56] <fredl> SlaSheR84, yes.
[09:57] <yacc> SlaSheR84: ssh does that quite well. Either by default
[09:57] <fredl> SlaSheR84, ssh -X
[09:57] <yacc> SlaSheR84: Or you need to specify -X
[09:57] <crash> anyone know how to make limewire work
[09:57] <brendon> umm ok  i see, well it is something to work on,  i have added myself to become a member anyway so hopefully  i will be accepted
[09:57] <ubuntu> crash: install and use ;)
[09:57] <DeMoNSeEd> use frosttwire
[09:57] <fredl> SlaSheR84, that's only for starting up X programs remotely though, not for an X session.
[09:57] <DeMoNSeEd> *frostwire
[09:58] <ubuntu> DeMoNSeEd: how do i go about registering ?
[09:58] <DeMoNSeEd> 1 sec
[09:58] <Madpilot> ubuntu, first you'll have to find a nick that isn't already registered.
[09:59] <DeMoNSeEd> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
[09:59] <DeMoNSeEd> read that
[09:59] <ubuntu> ty guys
[09:59] <mikey3521> tom47, i'm burning the live cd right now so i'll let you know what happen's in a second.
[10:00] <brendon> that is one good thing with the live cd is that you can install  of it
[10:01] <DeMoNSeEd> Madpilot, , that's no small trick anymore, finding a nick
[10:01] <Madpilot> DeMoNSeEd, it can be a bit of a challenge ;)
[10:01] <DeMoNSeEd> lol
[10:02] <DeMoNSeEd> demands creativity to the max :)
[10:02] <NineTeen67Comet> Anyone have a light weight .torrent downloader? I thought bittornado would be fine, but the gui is #3 on top's use chart (Followed by xgl, and compiz magine that) ..
[10:03] <NineTeen67Comet> ner'mind .. gotta get going ..
[10:03] <ubuntu> nixternal: ktorrent
[10:03] <DeMoNSeEd> use cli
[10:05] <xst> I have a CUPS problem: When I, from my local host, A, try to print to a remote CUPS-host, B, all that comes out from the printer is a sheet with some "@PJL SET foo=bar" lines on it. If I print directly from the remote box (B), the output is just fine. Not even "echo foo | lpr" is printed correctly from hos A. What to do?
[10:06] <ubuntu> DeMoNSeEd: 1 ?
[10:06] <DeMoNSeEd> yeah?
[10:06] <ubuntu> nickserv is the server name or my nickname
[10:07] <DeMoNSeEd> server
[10:07] <DeMoNSeEd> so create a name in xchat
[10:08] <ubuntu> ok , i 'm using cli now
[10:08] <DeMoNSeEd> then just register it as the page says
[10:08] <ubuntu> let me login into xchat
[10:08] <ubuntu> brb
[10:08] <nox-Hand> Hey
[10:09] <nox-Hand> In the 6.06 installer (( the one with graphical liveCD on it )), how do I boot up the text-based installer?
[10:09] <DeMoNSeEd> use the alternate
[10:09] <brendon> agree  with demonseed there  i think you have to use the alt cd to do that
[10:10] <nox-Hand> DeMoNSeEd, i.e. the full installer with X on it cannot boot it?
[10:10] <nox-Hand> Ah, right
[10:10] <ubuntu> back
[10:10] <DeMoNSeEd> wb
[10:10] <nox-Hand> Well, I shall use the graphical one then....seing as I got about 17 of em left, be stupid not to  use it
[10:10] <ubuntu> thanks
[10:10] <DeMoNSeEd> no luck
[10:11] <g1gaman> tell me why EVERY time i resize a panel on ubuntu desktop, after restart i can't use gnome due desktop flickering &glittering. i did it on three different computers (PC x86) with different video cards and EVERY time repeats the same problem. is it possible to make panel ~50 pxls wide? my sight is too weak for standard 24px on 1024x768 (19" display). Thank you in advance.
[10:12] <mikey3521> tom47, i've got the live-cd up & running, what app did you say I should use to get the disk's right?
[10:12] <DeMoNSeEd> it'll go to 50
[10:13] <xukun> I heard that there where a prblem of updating xserver-xorg, but that was few days ago. Ist save to upgrade now?
[10:14] <g1gaman> xukun: yeah
[10:14] <g1gaman> xukun: no problem anymore
[10:14] <asabil> hello all
[10:14] <xukun> thanks
[10:14] <Nameeater> is there anyway to make the normal CD (live) install on VMware not no slow? :/
[10:14] <asabil> anyone knows how to fix usplash for wiescreens ?
[10:15] <DeMoNSeEd> g1gaman, did you look at the assistive tech section
[10:15] <g1gaman> DeMoNSeEd: where's that?
[10:16] <DeMoNSeEd> look in System>preferences
[10:16] <xukun> ist possible to install google earth on ubuntu?
[10:16] <g1gaman> DeMoNSeEd: oh i see
[10:16] <DeMoNSeEd> it will have things like a magnifier
[10:17] <g1gaman> DeMoNSeEd: oh, i am not THAT blind! :DDD
[10:17] <blind> lol
[10:17] <DeMoNSeEd> sorry
[10:18] <g1gaman> blind, excuse me for hilite
[10:18] <modplug_> hi guys! - i'm unable to get cgwd themes for compiz to work... - when i enter cgwd --replace & i lose all my window borders. any help would be highly appriciated
[10:18] <rast4> can someone help me get my PCMCIA WPC54G v4 Linksys wireless adapter. I had it working before but had to do a reinstall and forgot what I had to do. I got it working without NDISWRAPPER.
[10:18] <DeMoNSeEd> i set mine to 50 when you asked
[10:18] <blind> g1gaman: no worries. happens 8x a day at least
[10:18] <DeMoNSeEd> it worked ok
[10:18] <g1gaman> DeMoNSeEd: and you restarted the system?
[10:18] <DeMoNSeEd> ah, no, that i didn't do
[10:19] <DeMoNSeEd> you're sure your x is set all fine and that
[10:19] <DeMoNSeEd> res is good
[10:19] <g1gaman> DeMoNSeEd: yes, i am pretty sure
[10:20] <DeMoNSeEd> k
[10:20] <DeMoNSeEd> to help ya  out, i'll do it
[10:20] <mikey3521> Could anyone here help me with a DellPowerEdge/Perc RaidController & Ubuntu? I can't get it to detect the harddisk's
[10:20] <g1gaman> DeMoNSeEd: 1024x768 with 75 mhz is not so impossible settings for displaying
[10:21] <DeMoNSeEd> check your monitors specs
[10:21] <DeMoNSeEd> they should be findable
[10:21] <DeMoNSeEd> but
[10:21] <DeMoNSeEd> hang in
[10:21] <DeMoNSeEd> i just set my lower panel to 50
[10:22] <DeMoNSeEd> i'll log off reboot come back and tell ya
[10:22] <g1gaman> DeMoNSeEd: it works fine, till you restart
[10:22] <DeMoNSeEd> i will see
[10:22] <DeMoNSeEd> brb
[10:23] <siXy> can anyone give me a hand getting an nic working?
[10:24] <fredl> does anybody still have problems with the ATI hardware 3D like me?
[10:25] <fredl> hoi brynk.
[10:25] <fredl> hoi e-jey
[10:25] <brynk> hoi
[10:25] <fredl> 755 people on channel, yet so little meaningfull talking going on....
[10:26] <brendon> agree with you there fred
[10:26] <mikey3521> uhci_hcd  host controller process error, somthing bad happened. /  host controller halted, very bad! / hc died; cleaning up....     i get that when trying to install.... anyone???
[10:26] <asabil> anyone knows how to fix usplash for wiescreens ?
[10:27] <fredl> the questions asked get more diverse and complicated though, which is why it seems less and less questions are being answered properly IMO.
[10:27] <g1gaman> DeMoNSeEd, so?
[10:27] <DeMoNSeEd> it;s fine
[10:28] <DeMoNSeEd> not a prob, just it's huge
[10:28] <fredl> so is anybody here using fglrx?
[10:28] <asabil> anyone knows how to fix usplash for widescreens ?
[10:28] <siXy> heah i think the channel should be split, maybe into four say, basic, advance, server, hardware
[10:28] <DeMoNSeEd> so you're set at 75?
[10:29] <g1gaman> DeMoNSeEd: nope. just 50
[10:29] <DeMoNSeEd> no your res
[10:29] <g1gaman> DeMoNSeEd: 50 is enough
[10:29] <michaels__> how do I set up KDE on standard Dapper so I have an option to start a KDE session?
[10:29] <UU> help me , xmms playlist are mistake unicode .
[10:29] <tom47> mikey3521 ru still here
[10:29] <fredl> sixy, everybody would go to advanced anyway when they believe their relatively simple question can't be solved.
[10:29] <mikey3521> yes i am
[10:29] <DeMoNSeEd> 1024x768 @ 75?
[10:29] <brendon> ok just out of interest what is fglrx , is that some sort of display driver??
[10:29] <g1gaman> DeMoNSeEd: yes
[10:29] <DeMoNSeEd> try 85
[10:30] <realist> ATI propriatry drivers.
[10:30] <siXy> fredl - true. but at leaat you can say - this can be covered in the basic channel. maybe the basic channel could have a list of things its there for
[10:30] <siXy> i dunno
[10:30] <fredl> michaels_ I believe you can just apt-get install kde?
[10:31] <siXy> but i very rarely get any answers here i generally have to go to other distros channels and then try to port the solution to ubuntu
[10:31] <g1gaman> DeMoNSeEd: i can't. 75 is the only available option.
[10:31] <fredl> brendon - fglrx is the ATI proprietary display driver.
[10:31] <DeMoNSeEd> how about 70?
[10:31] <DeMoNSeEd> oh
[10:31] <DeMoNSeEd> only
[10:31] <brendon> right  sorry  me bad
[10:31] <g1gaman> DeMoNSeEd: nope. just 75
[10:31] <mikey3521> tom47, any thoughts?
[10:31] <DeMoNSeEd> what graphics card you have
[10:31] <fredl> sixy - I have noticed the same, but it used to be different, just half a year ago I'd get nearly every question I asked here answered.
[10:31] <tom47> mikey3521 ...... i am filled with questions lol
[10:32] <tom47> have you booted into the livecd?
[10:32] <dmier> hi everyone, i have a question mepis is based on ubuntu?
[10:32] <mikey3521> yes
[10:32] <siXy> it has to be said, i dont tend to ask simple questions which is probably part of the reason (this nic is being a real pain in the ass), but its a bit frustrating
[10:32] <g1gaman> DeMoNSeEd: it's some integrated stuff
[10:32] <DeMoNSeEd> hmm
[10:32] <tom47> ok then start gparted .....under  System>Administration
[10:32] <DeMoNSeEd> makes a diff
[10:33] <g1gaman> DeMoNSeEd: i don't remember the motherboards number, but it's intel
[10:33] <mikey3521> ok
[10:33] <johnnybezak> siXy: i think its probably more that your problems are more complicated not that the answers aren't there. thats what i find
[10:33] <g1gaman> DeMoNSeEd: and 64mb videoram
[10:33] <fredl> dmier - I don't know but from this http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mepis it doesn't look like it.
[10:33] <DeMoNSeEd> i810?
[10:33] <siXy> johhny - thats what i meant
[10:34] <fredl> johnnybezak, exactly. As Ubuntu gets more advanced, more people start using it and the questions get exponentially more complex.
[10:34] <tom47> mikey3521 you should now be ablke to create partitions with it
[10:34] <buntix> re dsol
[10:34] <siXy> also most ppl that hang around here are great at fixing problems with desktops, but there arent so many that know lots about servers
[10:34] <DeMoNSeEd> there other rooms that try to help draw some of the pressure off of here
[10:35] <bbrazil> siXy: there is #ubuntu-server iirc
[10:35] <fredl> siXy, I don't really agree though. I've been asking questions about getting my ATI card running again after I upgraded to Ubuntu 6.0
[10:35] <siXy> bbrazil -- oohhh ty. thats not mentioned (at least not prominently) on the website
[10:35] <fredl> siXy, without much luck I might add.  What was your question?
[10:36] <siXy> ahhh its a development chan. nvm
[10:36] <johnnybezak> fredl: that too, but i was more referring to that when you start using ubuntu your questions are simple "how do i chmod this" "why isn't sound working" and then all of a sudden you're asking about compiling kernels and complex cups setups. do you get me?
[10:36] <siXy> cant get a nic (netgeat ga302t, tigon3 cmodul) to load
[10:36] <siXy> *module
[10:36] <bjron> how do I disable dma for one of my drives at boot?
[10:36] <bbrazil> siXy: also, an -advanced channel won't work, everyone would just go in there by default :)
[10:36] <fredl> johnnybezak, I understand you perfectly well. For a long time as a Linux user I've been used to my 'remote control' not working, or my '3D hardware support' not working, it was the norm....
[10:37] <DeMoNSeEd> that's true
[10:37] <bbrazil> siXy: error message?
[10:37] <g1gaman> DeMoNSeEd: funny, the device manager doesn't show video adapters at all :)
[10:37] <siXy> cant find any :(
[10:37] <michaels__> what packages do I install on standard Dapper to get an optional KDE session?
[10:37] <DeMoNSeEd> find out if ya can at some point
[10:37] <bbrazil> siXy: dmesg?
[10:37] <fredl> johnnybezak, but these days I get irky when I can't get my hardware 3D support to work, so the expectation level has been raised considerably.
[10:37] <DeMoNSeEd> i think you're not set up right
[10:37] <PyroManiak> My remote control hardlocks my machine Linux user
[10:38] <TheGateKeeper> fredl: I don't use ATI myself, everything I have seen suggests that ATI is bad news for linux
[10:38] <siXy> dmesg | grep Eth* turns up nothing
[10:38] <bbrazil> siXy: you're looking for a module load error, that won't mention eth
[10:38] <fredl> TheGateKeeper, well honestly, I don't think so. ATI seems to have a pretty strong commitment but it looks like the community doesn't like ATI much sometimes.
[10:39] <fredl> well that's just my impression.
[10:39] <PyroManiak> is there a log that shows what failed during bootup?
[10:39] <fredl> PyroManiak, you could try using dmesg
[10:39] <siXy> ahhh found tg3_test_dma() Write the buffer fialed -19
[10:39] <siXy> *failed
[10:39] <mikey3521> tom not working i only have access to /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot which is only 2040mb, not the size of my harddrive at all..
[10:39] <siXy> aparently the dma engine test failed... eh? its a network card
[10:40] <DeMoNSeEd> it might help, if it was room policy to try to get people to register, then if someone wants to aid someone, they can do it in pm, take away a little of the slog in here
[10:40] <tom47> mikey3521 hmmm
[10:40] <fredl> siXy, and why would network cards not use DMA? :)
[10:40] <bbrazil> siXy: sounds like bad hardware. See if you can pass the module an option not to use DMA
[10:40] <ron_> can I run ubuntu with dual monitors?
[10:41] <fredl> DeMoNSeEd, that seems like an okay idea, sometimes this channel scrolls by very rapidly and it's hard to keep track.
[10:41] <todoestaqui> hello everyone
[10:41] <DeMoNSeEd> exactly
[10:41] <al0cunit> can anyone explain how to insatll ndiswrapper....
[10:41] <fredl> DeMoNSeEd, and then PM sessions could be translated into 'known solutions' things that get posted on the website for example.
[10:41] <PyroManiak> fredl: Is there something like that command that might show me what the last thing was before I hardlocked?
[10:41] <bbrazil> fredl: DeMoNSeEd channel policy is not to use pm, so that everyone learns and if the helper gets stuck others can jump in
[10:42] <DeMoNSeEd> well, then this is what you get
[10:42] <fredl> PyroManiak, probably not since it hardlocks you, which indicates a problem. That's the problem with logging problems, you typically don't WANT them :)
[10:42] <TheGateKeeper> fredl: you would think that asking how you enable a british keyboard with Arch linux would be relatively simple, but no one seems to have any answers, so I will just have to do some more fidling around :-)
[10:42] <siXy> hmmm googling the error turns up a lot of stuff about editing the kernel source code....
[10:42] <narg> is there any way to export the gconf/gnome settings database?
[10:42] <bbrazil> siXy: sounds about right
[10:42] <DeMoNSeEd> creating another room won't end anything
[10:43] <rast4> anyone know how to get the Linksys wireless card working without NdisWrapper? There is a way, I just lost the info
[10:43] <PyroManiak> fredl: well, I need someway to find out what is causing this to crash "randomly"... or I might as well go back to winXP.. lol
[10:43] <fredl> bbrazil, oh I understand that perfectly fine, sharing the conversation is great, but it gets extremely hard to follow like 10 different conversations going on at the same time.
[10:43] <siXy> it seems to be a problem with somehting getting initialised too early. hmm.
[10:43] <bbrazil> fredl: nikc hilighting makes it bearable
[10:43] <bbrazil> *nick
[10:43] <DeMoNSeEd> you have to decide, is the room here to teach, or help
[10:44] <fredl> bbrazil, true, that's why I try to stick to typing somebody's name at the start of a line.
[10:44] <bbrazil> DeMoNSeEd: teach is #ubuntu-classroom iirc
[10:44] <DeMoNSeEd> lol
[10:44] <TheGateKeeper> DeMoNSeEd: should be to help
[10:44] <DeMoNSeEd> touche
[10:44] <bbrazil> DeMoNSeEd: if it's empty you can usually take a newbie in there
[10:44] <fredl> bbrazil, would it be an idea to log PM sessions? I'm sure that could be arranged with freenet operators, correct?
[10:45] <PyroManiak> [17179960.016000]  cpufreq: change failed with new_state 1 and result 0
[10:45] <PyroManiak> is that my problem?
[10:45] <bbrazil> fredl: no, legal issues alone...
[10:45] <fredl> bbrazil, hmmm...
[10:45] <DeMoNSeEd> no my point is people come in here to get help, if 1 to 1 is the way, so be it, the flow in here is huge
[10:45] <OmniD> I made a guest account that I don't want to have administration priveledges but still be able to choose a wifi connection
[10:46] <OmniD> they are unable to by default
[10:46] <bbrazil> anyway, this sort of meta discussion is really for #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:46] <fredl> bbrazil, a new mechanism could be implemented, say 'public message to one person'
[10:46] <fredl> like /pquery
[10:46] <ron_> can I run ubuntu with dual monitors?
[10:46] <DeMoNSeEd> anyhoo, we try to help as best we can in our room, as we know you get mucho bogged in here
[10:46] <bbrazil> fredl: actually taking in channel is a private message to a lot of people. but let's not get into the IRC protocol
[10:47] <bbrazil> fredl: *talking
[10:47] <fredl> DeMoNSeEd, I know :) I'm not so much criticizing the willingness of Ubuntu people coz I think that rockz. It's *effective*, yet not so *efficient* as more and more people get interested in #ubuntu, agreed?
[10:48] <DeMoNSeEd> totally
[10:48] <todoestaqui> anyone can help me ? on term konsole, when typed 'ls | less' => ok but when typed 'ps | less' -> bash : less: command not found ???
[10:48] <fredl> bbrazil, well it could be as simple as an addition to the IRC client maybe hmmm.
[10:49] <DeMoNSeEd> no simple solution
[10:49] <fredl> bbrazil, do you happen to know anybody who's *particularly* involved in the support quality?
[10:49] <bbrazil> fredl: no, it's just equivilent to using a channel
[10:49] <PyroManiak> is there a problem with using the 686 kernel? I think when I switched to that is when I started getting the hardlocks
[10:50] <bbrazil> PyroManiak: try switching back
[10:50] <Awesome-o2000> PyroManiak, what CPU do you have?
[10:50] <fredl> PyroManiak, not to my knowledge. Anyway, lemme see if I can help you and focus a little bit. Could you describe the problem a bit again?
[10:50] <siXy> hmmm it looks like there may be a newer version of the tg3 driver to fix this issue - des ubuntu ship with gcc, kernel headers etc?
[10:50] <PyroManiak> Awesome-o2000: p3m
[10:50] <bbrazil> siXy: there's packages for them
[10:50] <OmniD> siXy: at least gcc
[10:51] <DeMoNSeEd> build essential
[10:51] <Awesome-o2000> PyroManiak, you should be ok...
[10:51] <siXy> yeah but given that the nic isnt working, installing the packages is going to be a right pain
[10:51] <rast4> if I get an error " bash: make: command not found" How would I go about installing make? is that a libc package or something?
[10:51] <bbrazil> siXy: build on another system
[10:51] <tom47> mikey3521 been doing some more googling ... it looks like you have some special isues there
[10:51] <PyroManiak> fredl: Well, its just hard locking... seems pretty random... and I know I was stable for a few weeks, and I'm stable in windows, so I'm sure I mucked something up :]
[10:51] <bbrazil> rast4: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[10:51] <mtholdenss> gentoo vs ubuntu
[10:52] <Awesome-o2000> lol - Snakehit when we used to smoke pot in college we'd call it a "snake hit" if the pipe had 1/2 of a puff left in it
[10:52] <rast4> ty
[10:52] <bbrazil> mtholdenss: #ubuntu-offtopic for that please
[10:52] <mtholdenss> what to choose, ubuntu and gentoo both support xgl
[10:52] <fredl> PyroManiak, have you recently changed (removed/reinstalled) your kernel?
[10:52] <leagris> tom47, what you are looking for is the build-essentials package
[10:52] <bbrazil> mtholdenss: or maybe ##linux
[10:52] <Snakehit> hh Awesome-o2000
[10:52] <Awesome-o2000> mtholdenss, what exactly are you looking to accomplish?
[10:52] <mtholdenss> ok sorry bbrazil
[10:53] <tom47> leagris yes?  well i am out of my depth so if someone can help him go fr it
[10:53] <bbrazil> mtholdenss: among other things we're rather biased in here
[10:53] <DeMoNSeEd> lol
[10:53] <mtholdenss> ?
[10:53] <ron_> hmmmmmm
[10:53] <rast4> bbrazil: seems to not have worked
[10:53] <daniele_981> hello i want update mi kde to version 3.5.4 i've the 3.5.2 but i don't say
[10:53] <fredl> PyroManiak, you could try doing 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall kernel-image-`uname -r`'
[10:54] <bbrazil> rast4: did you get an error?
[10:54] <leagris> tom47, make and other needed tools to compile buid and so on is installed with the package named build-essentials
[10:54] <PyroManiak> fredl: well, I did many updates on the same day... Ubuntu had me upgrade the default i386 kernel, and then I went and got the 686 kernel a few hours later... but that was about 2 weeks ago when the hardlocks started
[10:54] <rast4> bbrazil: no candidate version found for build-essential
[10:54] <fredl> PyroManiak, if you had several hardlocks, maybe your filesystem got a bit messed up when you had lots of upgrades yet had to hit the power button.
[10:55] <bbrazil> rast4: odd, check your spelling. If that doesn't work sudo aptitude update
[10:55] <rast4> ok
[10:55] <leagris> PyroManiak, 1386 ? You were running a very old Kernel. This might be of interrest to acheologists ^^
[10:55] <PyroManiak> leagris: isn't that the default for the ubuntu livecd?
[10:55] <daniele_981> hello i want update mi kde version but i dont's say how.
[10:55] <bbrazil> leagris: eh, you realise the 386 kernel  and the 686 are the same except for optimizarions?
[10:56] <fredl> PyroManiak, what does 'uname -r' say right now?
[10:56] <rast4> bbrazil: needed to do sudo aptitude update first, now it is working, ty
[10:56] <PyroManiak> fredl: haven't done that yet.. just sec...
[10:56] <mtholdenss> anyone here used xgl and your screen just went black or i think i may have followed the tut wrong, i dunno, anyone else had that?
[10:56] <sioux> hi people I heard that the new ubuntu edgy will use smart than synapitc it is true?
[10:56] <leagris> bbrazil, I was joking about 1386 Year date Kernel
[10:57] <TheGateKeeper> rast4: you are not trying to build something that is in the repos are you?
[10:57] <DeMoNSeEd> postponed isn't that
[10:57] <daniele_981> Help meeeeeeeeee
[10:57] <Bassetts> what can i use to rip dvds?
[10:57] <DeMoNSeEd> i think Smart has been postponed
[10:57] <leagris> Help, I need somebody help! (Beatles)
[10:57] <sioux> cdrip
[10:58] <DeMoNSeEd> check launchpad
[10:58] <PyroManiak> fredl: got a "lock error"
[10:58] <sioux> sorry acidrip
[10:58] <TheGateKeeper> sioux: yes, the bad news is that it's wriiten in python not c++
[10:58] <fredl> PyroManiak, I know I had big problems when I went ahead to try and install fglrx 8.27 manually, you have to build a new kernel but with the same version number for that. I then (because of the recent xorg fu) tried uninstalling that kernel afterwards so the actual kernel *file* was gone but GRUB still thought it was there coz it only remembers where it starts. Then Linux will gradually re-use the filesystem space while you still boot from that kernel.
[10:58] <sioux> no
[10:58] <rast4> thegatekeeper: trying to use ndiswrapper because i can't remember how to get my wireless card to work the other way without it
[10:58] <fredl> PyroManiak, you get a 'lock error' when you do uname -r ??
[10:58] <fredl> eek
[10:58] <bbrazil> fredl: that's lilo, grub uses the filesystem
[10:58] <sioux> Thegatekeeper smart is very bad
[10:58] <TheGateKeeper> rast4: ok just checking :-)
[10:58] <rast4> thegatekeeper: I've never used ndiswrapper so this kinda sucks, there is a way to get it working without it and i'd much rather do it that way, but I forgot how
[10:59] <bbrazil> fredl: s/uses/understands/
[10:59] <fredl> bbrazil, oh really? Hmmmm...
[10:59] <rast4> I'm also getting errors with make uninstall with ndiswrapper
[10:59] <rast4> ::(
[10:59] <rast4> I can't win here
[10:59] <fredl> bbrazil, either way, I had a kernel that started recognizing less and less hardware as time went by :)
[10:59] <PyroManiak> fredl: can I /msg you so I dont flood?
[10:59] <al0cunit> rast4 what error..?
[10:59] <bbrazil> fredl: sounds like dead hardware
[10:59] <daniele_981> rast4: i want update and upgrade my kde how i do????
[11:00] <DeMoNSeEd> sudo apt-get update
[11:00] <fredl> bbrazil, nope, reinstalling the kernel with apt-get install --reinstall fixed the problem completely
[11:00] <TheGateKeeper> sioux: no will just be slower than if it was written in c++
[11:00] <daniele_981> DeMoNSeEd: nada
[11:00] <sioux> I do not understand why many distro change to smart. SuSE too choesed this way
[11:00] <fredl> PyroManiak, I think I'll have to register first then :)
[11:00] <bbrazil> fredl: maybe corruption of /lib/modules
[11:00] <DeMoNSeEd> nada?
[11:00] <rast4> al0cunit: make: *** [uninstall]  error 1
[11:00] <TheGateKeeper> rast4: I take it that it doesn't have linux drivers?
[11:01] <daniele_981> DeMoNSeEd: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade but the version is 3.5.2
[11:01] <sioux> Apt is so simple to use and so easy ti add repos and manage the sistem
[11:01] <aarohi> is there a shockwave plugin available anywhere for firefox?
[11:01] <al0cunit> i get the same error....
[11:01] <fredl> bbrazil, could well be, I'm still having problems as we speak to insert the fglrx kernel module properly
[11:01] <rast4> Thegatekeeper: I didn't have to use any drivers last time I don't recall
[11:01] <DeMoNSeEd> k i mistook
[11:01] <geoffDeGeoffGeof> when you connect to a network server using the places menu where does the network drive appear on the filesystem?  I cannae find it...
[11:01] <fredl> PyroManiak, go ahead and PM me
[11:01] <aarohi> is there a shockwave plugin available anywhere for firefox?
[11:01] <wjs60>  :) hello
[11:01] <PyroManiak> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:02] <TheGateKeeper> rast4: isn't that what you are trying to do with the ndiswrapper?
[11:02] <wjs60> firefox is so bade
[11:02] <fredl> aarohi - yes, check ubuntuguide.org
[11:02] <aarohi> is there a shockwave plugin available anywhere for firefox? their site says the browser type could not be detected
[11:02] <rast4> PyromankiaK: close Synaptik
[11:02] <aarohi> fredl: ty
[11:02] <fredl> wjs60, firefox rulez :)
[11:02] <daniele_981> samethimes help me????
[11:02] <DeMoNSeEd> no shockwave
[11:02] <wjs60> fredi that is right
[11:02] <rast4> TheGateKeeper: Yes, but last time I didn't have to use it
[11:02] <DeMoNSeEd> always promised
[11:02] <DeMoNSeEd> never delivered
[11:02] <d4t2ill4> hi guys
[11:02] <rast4> daniele_981: sudo apt-get update
[11:02] <aarohi> DeMoNSeEd: is that true?
[11:02] <wjs60> it was so slew that you cant eve use it
[11:03] <TheGateKeeper> sioux: smart is just a clever gui, as far as I am aware you can still use synaptic/apt-get
[11:03] <d4t2ill4> iam new to ubuntu, and wish to add azureus to a startup service.. is that possible?
[11:03] <DeMoNSeEd> ffill in your name on this list, when we get enough we'll happily portb it over, for years we've had that
[11:03] <Toge> xserver-core yuju
[11:03] <Toge> hello
[11:03] <daniele_981> i do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade but rhe version is 3.5.2
[11:03] <DeMoNSeEd> *port
[11:03] <TheGateKeeper> rast4: autodetected?
[11:04] <rast4> TheGateKeeper: I believe so, because I'm trying this NDisWrapper now and it's erroring like a mofo, so it must have autodetected last time
[11:04] <ndee> hey there, I'm looking for an mp3 player like iTunes for ubuntu. I tried amarok but it's kinda too confusing and I can't manage to create a simple playlist.
[11:05] <daniele_981> nothing????????
[11:05] <DeMoNSeEd> like itunes
[11:05] <DeMoNSeEd> banshee i guess
[11:05] <rast4> wow I got an error with: make uninstall, make and make install
[11:05] <rast4> nothing will work
[11:05] <TheGateKeeper> rast4: only an idea, for the sake of 20-25 if you have it, might be worth buying one that has native linux drivers
[11:06] <ndee> DeMoNSeEd: gonna try that
[11:06] <Ackeubu_> hey how do i view boot up messages?
[11:06] <rast4> TheGateKeeper: it's not even that, I have 5 laptops, but I had this one working already with the driver somehow, just can't for the life of me remember and obviously ndiswrapper isn't working for me
[11:06] <daniele_981> nothing update the kde to version 3.5.4???????????????????????
[11:06] <DeMoNSeEd> http://banshee-project.org/Main_Page
[11:07] <DeMoNSeEd> that's their page
[11:07] <TheGateKeeper> rast4: back the data up and reinstall ??
[11:07] <rast4> TheGateKeeper: too late, figured there was nothing I wanted so that's what I already did, that's where I'm at now :P
[11:07] <daniele_981> is possible??????
[11:08] <rast4> it even shows my wireless as eth1 in network list
[11:08] <rast4> just isn't connecting/functioning
[11:08] <nox-Hand> Okay, I just installed Ubuntu, but my password seems.....to not work
[11:08] <nox-Hand> Can I change it?
[11:08] <nox-Hand> Or.
[11:09] <DeMoNSeEd> can't help daniele_981
[11:09] <TheGateKeeper> rast4: that sounds like the problem, and why it isn't working
[11:09] <Ackeubu_> is the messages from bootup stored in some logfile i can view?
[11:09] <DeMoNSeEd> try asking in #kubuntu
[11:09] <fredl> Ackeubu_, /var/log/messages
[11:09] <Ackeubu_> ty
[11:09] <TheGateKeeper> rast4: should be wlan1 or whatever
[11:09] <daniele_981> but same repo????
[11:09] <rast4> TheGateKeeper: That's what I need to know, I'm connected via eth0 which is LAN, but I need the eth1 to work
[11:09] <DeMoNSeEd> i myself don't know about the kde
[11:10] <lostsync> what's a common thing that might be eating up a lot of free space in ~/?
[11:10] <rast4> TheGateKeeper: Even when it worked, it was listed as eth1
[11:10] <Nae> What should I do to install non-application packages, like mp3 codecs?
[11:10] <Flannel> !tell Nae about mp3
[11:10] <rast4> TheGateKeeper: never wlan*
[11:10] <Flannel> Nae: follow those instructions for mp3/etc
[11:10] <nox-Hand> Anyone?
[11:10] <Nae> Okay.
[11:10] <Nae> Thanks.
[11:10] <DeMoNSeEd> you password
[11:11] <Flannel> nox-Hand: what do you mean "not work"
[11:11] <fredl> bbrazil, the simple answer to what we talked about earlier is that there should be more structure somehow in the chat that's going on on the channel.
[11:11] <DeMoNSeEd> nox-Hand, you're logged in??
[11:11] <nox-Hand> Flannel, well, either I typed it wrong twice, or something else is wrong. I just would like to know whether I gotta just reinstall, or whether there might be a simple sollution
[11:11] <fredl> bbrazil, a structure that doesn't make anything 'private' or 'secret' but just more organized.
[11:11] <Flannel> nox-Hand: sure, you can change it.  Let me get you a link
[11:11] <nox-Hand> DeMoNSeEd, I am writing from a lappy
[11:12] <DeMoNSeEd> ah
[11:12] <DeMoNSeEd> pooched
[11:12] <yojimbo-san> How can I ask sources.list to give me a specific package from multiverse? I don't want to include the whole repo, just a single package ...
[11:12] <Soulfly> how can I see the top memory consumption of a script?
[11:12] <nox-Hand> Thanks, Flannel
[11:12] <Flannel> nox-Hand: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[11:13] <Flannel> nox-Hand: basically, you log in to the root/recovery console, then set your password to something else ;)  pretty simple
[11:13] <Bassetts> can someone give me advice on locoteams?? all the loco channels seem dead
[11:13] <fredl> is there a checkbox in xchat to stop seeing joins/leaves in the channel?
[11:14] <nox-Hand> Flannel, forgot about that one. Cheers :)
[11:15] <dmsantam> Soulfly, top
[11:15] <Soulfly> dmsantam: The script could take under a second. Hard to track in top
[11:16] <lostsync> fredl, right click on the #ubuntu tab
[11:17] <dmsantam> Soulfly, i c. i can' t think of a way then
[11:17] <dmsantam> Soulfly, you could sleep at the end of it so you can see. memory from the process won't be freed till the process ends anyway
[11:17] <Ackeubu_> hey how do i boot into terminal instead of going to the graphical loggin window?
[11:17] <dmsantam> Ackeubu_, ctrl-alt-F2
[11:17] <Ackeubu_> dmsantam: thanks, when do i do that?
[11:17] <dmsantam> Ackeubu_, when you're at graphical login menu
[11:18] <Ackeubu_> dmsantam i dont get there.. hehe installed edgy. and it crashes before
[11:18] <ndee> DeMoNSeEd: Banshee was exactly what I was looking for, thank you :)
[11:18] <dmsantam> Ackeubu_, damn. you need to boot into single user mode then
[11:18] <dmsantam> you can do that from the grub menu
[11:18] <Ackeubu_> dmsantam: root mode?
[11:19] <Ackeubu_> huuh?
[11:19] <DeMoNSeEd> yw
[11:19] <dmsantam> Ackeubu_, from there, you can disable gdm (graphical login)
[11:19] <HNT> hello everybody, is there an alternative to amule under gnome ?
[11:19] <DeMoNSeEd> amule specifically?
[11:20] <Ackeubu_> dmsantam okay. so when im in edit mode what do i do?
[11:20] <DeMoNSeEd> or just a file sharing package
[11:20] <Ackeubu_> dmsantam: ill go there wait a sek
[11:20] <DeMoNSeEd> HNT, ?
[11:20] <Ackeubu_> dmsantam: wait it works
[11:20] <dmsantam> oh?
[11:21] <Ackeubu_> dmsantam: i reconfigured xog.conf
[11:21] <HNT> not amulle but  a compatible edonkey client
[11:21] <dmsantam> xorg.conf good.
[11:21] <dmsantam> and now gdm is working?
[11:21] <Ackeubu_> dmsantam: and i think i might have made a vega conf that works
[11:21] <DeMoNSeEd> k , i was going to suggest frostwire
[11:21] <Ackeubu_> dmsantam: im totally shocked
[11:21] <dmsantam> :)
[11:21] <Soulfly> dmsantam; thanks for the tip.  i'm looking into valgrind / gdb / etc now..
[11:21] <nox-Hand> HNT, I use frostwire - thats the GNUtella network. Quite nice. I think it's aDonkey you are looking for, though
[11:21] <FRiDG3> Which is the best FTP-client with a graphical interface to ubuntu?
[11:21] <dmsantam> Soulfly, np :)
[11:22] <Ackeubu_> dmsantam: thanks so much..im running
[11:22] <Nucular> good morning everybody
[11:22] <nox-Hand> FRiDG3, gFTP
[11:22] <HNT> thanks, i will try it
[11:22] <nox-Hand> Jolly good
[11:22] <FRiDG3> nox-hand; thanks, I will try it out
[11:22] <dmsantam> no worries :)
[11:23] <Nucular> it would be nice if anybody could tell which file i have to use to start a command on startup (for my intel graphic card, so it has to be done before x starts)
[11:23] <opexoc> how can i display ( thanks to apt-get ) list of packages which I want to search ?
[11:24] <nox-Hand> opexoc, like apt-cache search <foo>? Like apt-cache search gftp would give you gftp packages?
[11:24] <fdoving> Nucular: what do you want that command to do? is it administrative? if you want to run the command as root(administrator) you can put the command into /etc/rc.local
[11:24] <d4t2ill4> hello
[11:24] <d4t2ill4> what run level is just console?
[11:24] <d4t2ill4> i notice in inittab runlevel 2 is default and it is gnome
[11:24] <bbrazil> there isn't one
[11:24] <Daemoz> 123456
[11:25] <d4t2ill4> noooo
[11:25] <bbrazil> !nox
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <bbrazil> !nodm
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nodm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <bbrazil> eh, /msg dpkg nodm
[11:25] <Daemoz> !fedora
[11:25] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[11:25] <nox-Hand> bbrazil, what?
[11:25] <d4t2ill4> !nogui
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nogui - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <bbrazil> nox-Hand: there is no explicit VT only runlevel
[11:25] <Nucular> fdoving: i think so, because it writes a resolution into the bios of the grafic card ... its neccessary cause it uses the ram. thats my understanding of the things
[11:25] <DeMoNSeEd> well, iu'm oot, nite everyone, take care
[11:25] <ndee> sorry to bother again but what's a good graphical ftp program? I tried gftp but when I try to copy a directory with subdirectories, the files never got uploaded.
[11:25] <d4t2ill4> hmm so for unbuntu desktop it has to be gui?
[11:26] <fdoving> Nucular: then /etc/rc.local is for you.
[11:26] <opexoc> nox-Hand: but it doesn't really work. ie: apt-cache search human . and this display some package which don't have in its string word "human".
[11:26] <bbrazil> d4t2ill4: no, just disable the dm
[11:26] <Nucular> fdoving: thank you sooooo much
[11:26] <d4t2ill4> ahh okie
[11:26] <DeMoNSeEd> get alternate install server
[11:26] <nox-Hand> bbrazil, what has that got to do with searching for nox, and me? :P Sorry, confused here
[11:26] <DeMoNSeEd> add what you want
[11:26] <bbrazil> nox-Hand: I wasn't talking to you
[11:26] <Bassetts> operative: that will be because human is in its description
[11:26] <Bassetts> *opexoc
[11:27] <nox-Hand> bbrazil, >> <bbrazil> nox-Hand: there is no explicit VT only runlevel <-- thats what confused me
[11:27] <ndee> ah, now gftp works. Weird, oh well, I'm not complaining :D
[11:27] <DeMoNSeEd> nox-Hand, you want no gui?
[11:27] <bbrazil> d4t2ill4: no, d4t2ill4 does
[11:27] <opexoc> Bassetts: it is not true. for example it displays "yapps2-runtime - Yet Another Python Parser System".
[11:27] <bbrazil> DeMoNSeEd: ^
[11:27] <fdoving> opexoc: apt-cache --names-only search human
[11:28] <DeMoNSeEd> ?
[11:28] <Bassetts> opexoc: what fdoving said
[11:28] <DeMoNSeEd> bbrazil, ?
[11:28] <nox-Hand> Hey, in #ubuntu-uk it says in the topic  Don't install the update to package xserver--xorg-core  !!' any idea why?
[11:28] <Bassetts> because it broke X
[11:29] <opexoc> ok but when i want to search the description too ?
[11:29] <WarOfAttrition> that's been fixed though
[11:29] <Bassetts> but a update is out
[11:29] <WarOfAttrition> you can install it just fine now
[11:29] <opexoc> because apt-get search is not working
[11:29] <Bassetts> obviously lazy ops in ubuntu-uk
[11:29] <fdoving> nox-Hand: there was a faulty security update some days ago. it's safe now.
[11:29] <WarOfAttrition> the problem was 1.0.3 the current is 1.0.4
[11:29] <nox-Hand> Ah, right, thanks
[11:29] <nox-Hand> DeMoNSeEd, nope, it was someone else about it :P
[11:30] <DeMoNSeEd> oh man, sorry
[11:30] <nox-Hand> Np :P
[11:30] <nox-Hand> brb
[11:31] <DeMoNSeEd> anyhoo, i'm out
[11:31] <DeMoNSeEd> laters
[11:31] <Daemoz> Can I install gnome-terminal in xfce??