[10:39] <khermans_> rix_, what do you want to accomplsih?
[10:39] <OmniD> the OS
[10:39] <rwscold> does anyone know how i can get my ati card working with a decent driver instead of vesa?
[10:39] <XVampireX> !ati
[10:39] <Tim90> thats so nice why, you dont like it
[10:39] <shinkle> ok thanks for letting me know
[10:39] <rix_> i need to virtualize a server and i like to have no hosting os
[10:39] <khermans_> rwscold, binarydriverhowto/ati
[10:39] <dekela> People
[10:39] <mike_> any on etry mana world game?
[10:39] <dekela> I need help
[10:39] <khermans_> rwscold, on the ubuntu wiki
[10:39] <SwoOp> khermans_<- ok
[10:39] <rwscold> I have tried what that help says i cant get it
[10:39] <mike_> try*
[10:39] <dekela> I want my Ubuntu
[10:40] <rix_> the virtualizzazion software should be an OS
[10:40] <dekela> Please see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287254
[10:40] <Tim90> VR^: Should be under mouse
[10:40] <khermans_> rix_, no host OS like ESX server?
[10:40] <rix_> yes
[10:40] <loki505> how do i get music on my psp
[10:40] <dabaR> [H] 3b0R: comment out the backports by placing a # at the beg. of the line with them.
[10:40] <VR^> Tim90: thanks
[10:40] <hexa> hi all , little problem after upgrading to edgy ,, I can't switch between resolutions ... I see them ok but just can't switch .. any ideas?
[10:40] <loki505> playstation portable
[10:40] <dabaR> [H] 3b0R: update, try again.
[10:40] <Tim90> VR^: ;)
[10:40] <Berdine> khermans_, I guess it's more screwed up than I thought... When I try what you suggested, it says "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."
[10:40] <khermans_> rix_, operating systems are hard to write
[10:40] <[H] 3b0R> dabaR: what if i want to use the backport repo?
[10:41] <Tim90> is mythtv free ?
[10:41] <khermans_> rix_, so why not just use vmware serer on linux?
[10:41] <dabaR> [H] 3b0R: in fact...just check the src backport line, the error is obvious
[10:41] <khermans_> Tim90, yes
[10:41] <Tim90> cheers
[10:41] <Shrike> Im in a bit of an jam, was doing upgrade to 6.10 via update-manager -C and it was interrupted midway through. Not my Ubuntu wont even boot. Any ideas how I can finish the upgrade
[10:41] <rix_> khermans_: becouse i have to install an os a then the server an the the other os(tre levels)
[10:41] <hexa> Shrike, try sudo apt-get install -f ? see what it tells you
[10:41] <khermans_> Shrike, boot from the live cd, chroot into the ead system, and perfrom the upgrade form the command line
[10:42] <rayok> help.. i had to overwrite grub so i could get into winblows but now im stuck here in the live cd trying to install grub again..
[10:42] <dabaR> Shrike: boot live, chroot to your /, then try to upgrade through apt-get
[10:42] <rix_> khermans_: isn't better only two Os, virtualizzation software and the hosted os
[10:42] <rix_> ?
[10:42] <iCod> libavahi-compat-libdnssd wants to overwrite libdns_sd.so.1 which is also in package bonjour, and its breaking my dependencies
[10:42] <philwhln_> how do I restart the xserver after modifying my xorg.conf?
[10:42] <Zyfo> This fortune program "Wanda the fish" where can I find/open the source to this?
[10:42] <dabaR> iCod: move the file for a second, try that way, and then resolve the differences in the two files manually.
[10:42] <rayok> there is no /boot/grub/stage1 folder that any info ive read says to find
[10:42] <khermans_> philwhln_, ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:42] <Tim90> WOnder mythtv will work with the MCE remote
[10:42] <iCod> dabaR, I'll try that real quick
[10:42] <dekela> People, Please see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287254  I want My ubuntu!
[10:43] <khermans_> Tim90, might need lirc configuration
[10:43] <JoseStefan> back
[10:43] <sycho> so how can I uninstall some of the apps that came with ubuntu without installing the ubuntu-desktop as well?
[10:43] <dabaR> !restoregrub
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restoregrub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <khermans_> Sync, you shouldnt do that
[10:43] <dabaR> !recovergrub
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recovergrub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <z0id> isn't /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug supposed to contain udevsend?
[10:43] <dabaR> !stupid bot
[10:43] <dekela> dabaR, How do I use it?
[10:43] <[H] 3b0R> dabaR: thank you, but what is the src repo for really?
[10:43] <rayok> :)
[10:43] <Tim90> i will lok into that ,i like the sound off the plugins
[10:43] <Pelo> alright, I give up ,  where is the boot manager in Edgy ?
[10:43] <dabaR> [H] 3b0R: source
[10:43] <rix_> khermans_ is better a ESX or a VM Server solution?
[10:44] <dabaR> dekela:
[10:44] <dabaR> !grub
[10:44] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:44] <Code_EL> !java > Code-E
[10:44] <khermans_> rix_, vmware server is free
[10:44] <[H] 3b0R> dabaR: tarballs?
[10:44] <Tim90> :-!
[10:44] <khermans_> rix_, and it works great
[10:44] <randomi> Anyone on Edgy find a fix to the vlc bin problem?
[10:44] <khermans_> rix_, i run 500 virtual servers on it
[10:44] <mike_> quick question after i compile somethign can i delet the source if i did a make install?
[10:44] <dabaR> dekela: fix grub after installing windows, or pretend you just installed windows
[10:44] <rix_> khermans_ :)) shold i install an os link buntu server an then the VMserver ?
[10:44] <migueliyo16> hi
[10:44] <Pelo> mike_,  yes you can
[10:44] <OmniD> !install > OmniD
[10:44] <mike_> Pelo,  thansk, but if i dont make install i have to keep it?
[10:44] <migueliyo16> where am i?
[10:45] <khermans_> rix_, yeah use ubuntu
[10:45] <Pelo> mike_,  errr.   is the app runnign 6
[10:45] <talisein> mike_: yes, but it can be handy to keep it around so you can make uninstall it later
[10:45] <Pelo> ?
[10:45] <dabaR> [H] 3b0R: no, source for applications that are .debs in the other repo, it installs a directory of source files afaicr
[10:45] <dekela> dabaR, Do I run it from windows?
[10:45] <rix_> khermans_ 500?? what hardware do you have?
[10:45] <Pelo> mike_,  you need to install the app for it to run
[10:45] <dekela> dabaR, where so I get it?
[10:45] <dabaR> dekela: you run a live cd.
[10:45] <khermans_> rix_, almost infinite amount
[10:45] <Berdine> I'm screwed~ :(
[10:45] <dabaR> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows dekela follow instructions to restore grub
[10:45] <dekela> dabaR, And If my windows was already installed and I just finished installing Ubuntu
[10:46] <rayok> dabaR, that link is taking forever :/
[10:46] <dekela> dabaR, The problem is that Grub is not showing on boot
[10:46] <khermans_> dekela, sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[10:46] <rix_> khermans_ it's easy to install and configure?
[10:46] <bobbyyu> !dvd
[10:46] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:46] <khermans_> rix_, yes
[10:46] <iCod> dabaR, the file it wants overwrite doesn't exist?!?
[10:46] <Bacon> ok guys
[10:46] <Bacon> wish me luck on ubuntu
[10:46] <Code_EL> I am having trouble making java working with firefox
[10:46] <dekela> khermans_, even if my hd is a SATA device?
[10:46] <Code_EL> the guide thing isnt helping
[10:46] <Code_EL> and im on xubuntu
[10:47] <dabaR> iCod: then it is screwed somehow, is your sources.list sane?
[10:47] <rayok> does /dev/hda work for everyone? regardless of ide or sata, linux not installed on the 1st hd
[10:47] <Daehlie> Code_EL, have you tried easyubuntu?
[10:47] <SB|nblracer> dabaRit it says it cant be found
[10:47] <Shrike> dabaR & khermans_: How do I get to the HD system?
[10:47] <Code_EL> Daehlie, uh yea, it wouldnt download
[10:47] <khermans_> Code_EL, aptitude install sun-java5-plugin
[10:47] <Pelo> nvm
[10:47] <dekela> rayok, Thats exactly what I wanted to ask!
[10:47] <iCod> dabaR, yes its more or less the default one
[10:47] <Brendon> hi all, i'm trying to compile the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel with raid1 support. Both drives are sata and the fs is ext3. During bootup it says the fs is ext2fs and then "ext3-fs unable to read superblock" and panics. Is there a a kernel option i'm forgetting? Thanks in advance.
[10:47] <khermans_> dekela, no use /dev/sda
[10:47] <rayok> :)
[10:47] <dabaR> SB|nblracer: I don't remember what we were talking about
[10:47] <Daehlie> Code_EL, easyubuntu wouldn't download or the packages wouldn't download?
[10:47] <alejandro> hola
[10:47] <BryanJK> Can someone give me a link for Wine for Ubuntu?
[10:47] <SB|nblracer> trying to get the C compiler path
[10:48] <Code_EL> Daehlie, the packages from easyubuntu
[10:48] <dekela> khermans_, I see.. So In my case it will be /dev/sdb
[10:48] <khermans_> Byan, aptitude install wine
[10:48] <SB|nblracer> using build-essentials
[10:48] <Pelo> BryanJK,  www.winehq.org/download/
[10:48] <dekela> as my Ubuntu is installed on sdb
[10:48] <dabaR> !wine
[10:48] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:48] <gearHead> BryanJK: What do you mean?
[10:48] <khermans_> dekela, sure
[10:48] <BryanJK> Thanks Pelo
[10:48] <Pelo> BryanJK,   it is also included in synaptic in edgy
[10:48] <Daehlie> Code_EL, did you try using a different repository?
[10:48] <kodat> alright i have a weird problem..when i restart my computer my wireless turns off.  the only way it turns back on is when i do sudo modprobe blahblah..is there any way to fix it so i dont have to type that every reboot
[10:48] <dabaR> SB|nblracer: build-essential
[10:48] <jeejee> shut up gays
[10:48] <BryanJK> What do you mean?
[10:48] <dabaR> thanks
[10:48] <iCod> dabaR, I'm trying it with a different file moved
[10:49] <khermans_> kodat, i gave you that answer already!
[10:49] <dekela> khermans_, Thanks!! As always the Linux community never fails ;-)
[10:49] <Pelo> BryanJK,  are you talking to me ?
[10:49] <LjL> !language | jeejee
[10:49] <kodat> khermans_, i never was able to get in kherman >.< it never let me
[10:49] <BryanJK> Yes
[10:49] <ubotu> jeejee: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:49] <dabaR> LjL: :-/
[10:49] <khermans_> kodat, sudo -i
[10:49] <iCod> dabaR no luck
[10:49] <Zyfo> This fortune program "Wanda the fish" where can I find/open the source to this?
[10:49] <rayok> hmm.. i think mine will be sdb but want to know for sure
[10:49] <Pelo> BryanJK,  then kindly type my nick first
[10:49] <jeejee> suckers
[10:49] <khermans_> kodat, nano -w /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[10:49] <jeejee> lol
[10:49] <dabaR> Zyfo: it is likely a part of the gnome-panel.
[10:49] <jeejee> rofl
[10:49] <BryanJK> Also
[10:50] <rix_> khermans_ the steps are: i intall ubuntu the the vmserver(source or rpm) then i create as many "space"as i like an then how coul i access to this spaces to install the hosted os?
[10:50] <Pelo> BryanJK,  I mean that if you are using edgy  ( ubu 6.10) you can install wine using the package manager synaptic
[10:50] <BryanJK> What do I edit to change my resolution?
[10:50] <Zyfo> dabaR: how can I "open it up"?
[10:50] <bobbyyu> What is a good repository for libdvd libraries?
[10:50] <khermans_> kodat, echo "modulename" >> /etc/modules
[10:50] <Shrike> dabaR: How to chroot to the dead system on HD? Am I missing something really obvious here?
[10:50] <BryanJK> Does that come with Ubuntu 6.10?
[10:50] <shaslap> i installed wolfenstein enemy territory, but when i run it, i get an error of ./et.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:50] <Zyfo> dabaR, I just want to see the source of it
[10:50] <kodat> khermans_, ah im in the blacklist..but that bcm of mine isnt even on the list..is it because i already modprobe'd it?
[10:50] <khermans_> kodat, no
[10:50] <khermans_> rix_, isntall Ubuntu, install vmware server, install your guest OS inside vmware
[10:51] <Pelo> BryanJK, ,  to adjust your redosolution you edit   xorg.conf     terminal >  gksu gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:51] <rix_> have i to install ubuntu in graphical mode?
[10:51] <SB|nblracer> dabaR Thanks alot it works now
[10:51] <sycho> In Edgy there are many sounds apps and internet apps that I would like to unistall but they all require uninstall the ubuntu-desktop as well. I read that it is safe to do but I am not sure what the consequences are.
[10:51] <kodat> khermans_, so wait..does modprobe unblacklist or blacklist? i havent exactly figured that out
[10:51] <khermans_> kodat, just type this: echo "bcm43xx" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[10:51] <dabaR> Zyfo: sudo apt-get source gnome-applets
[10:51] <dabaR> SB|nblracer: welcome
[10:52] <Zyfo> ty
[10:52] <khermans_> kodat, there are two different files
[10:52] <khermans_> kodat, the blacklist file
[10:52] <khermans_> kodat, that tells the kernel, never load these bad modules
[10:52] <dabaR> Shrike: start a live cd, then chroot to the installed system, man chroot when you boot live, and come back here.
[10:52] <BryanJK> Warning: unknown mime-type for "/ect/X11/xorg.conf" -- using "application/*"
[10:52] <BryanJK> Error: no write permission for file "/ect/X11/xorg.conf"
[10:52] <dabaR> Zyfo: that is a guess, though.
[10:52] <kodat> khermans_, alright i did that, maybe it worked..so modprobe blacklists?
[10:52] <khermans_> kodat, but there is the modules files as well, that says "load these modules at bootup"
[10:52] <Zyfo> dabaR, alright, will try anyway
[10:53] <kodat> khermans_, ah, so we do want it to load right?
[10:53] <dabaR> Zyfo: that is how you get the source of that package, and it sounds like the wanda would be somewhere in there.
[10:53] <Pelo> BryanJK,  did you start with gksu ?
[10:53] <khermans_> kodat, yes
[10:53] <rix_> khermans_ have i to install ubuntu in graphical mode?
[10:53] <khermans_> kodat, do the last command i sent yo
[10:53] <Zyfo> dabaR, yeah
[10:53] <kodat> khermans_, yeah i did, lets see if it works if i restart again
[10:53] <khermans_> rix_, not unless you want to see the guest OS running inside vmware
[10:53] <voltage> Evening
[10:53] <khermans_> kodat, all my servers have vmware server installed with no gui
[10:53] <BryanJK> hmm
[10:53] <BryanJK> just tell me a command to type into terminal
[10:53] <khermans_> kodat, and i manage the sessions from anywher
[10:53] <Bacon> hmm
[10:53] <kodat> khermans_, whatever that means ^_^
[10:53] <Bacon> I cant get ubuntu working
[10:54] <kodat> khermans_, ah cool
[10:54] <thechitowncubs> hey, when i upgraded to the beta nvidia driver my monitor's refresh rate can only go up to 56hz, should be able to handle 75 does anyone have any recommendations?
[10:54] <dabaR> LjL: when did you upgrade to +o status?
[10:54] <kodat> khermans_, brb im gona see if it works
[10:54] <khermans_> rix_, @ yuo
[10:54] <LjL> dabaR: recently
[10:54] <lnxtech> Can you mix and match the alsa-drivers in the kernel with the alsa-libs from ubuntu?
[10:54] <dabaR> LjL: like last 5 days recently or?
[10:54] <rix_> khermans_ ??
[10:54] <BryanJK> Pelo?
[10:54] <LjL> dabaR: yes, like that
[10:54] <Bacon> Khermans: didnt you help me out just a few minutes ago?
[10:54] <kodat> khermans_, my eth1 says disconnected..is there a way to turn it on? its even checked in network connections
[10:54] <dabaR> LjL: cool:)
[10:54] <AkumAPRIME> hey, uninstalling my firefox, but I need to delete the profile also,. Where is the firefox profile saved to on the hdd?
[10:54] <nisq> is there a list of computer desktop systems that work with ubuntu?
[10:54] <Pelo> BryanJK,  ?
[10:54] <khermans_> kodat, sudo ifup eth1
[10:54] <dabaR> LjL: how?
[10:55] <nisq> or maybe a list of those that don't
[10:55] <BryanJK> What do I need to type into Terminal?
[10:55] <kodat> khermans_, says already configured = (
[10:55] <khermans_> kodat, sudo ifdown eth1
[10:55] <khermans_> kodat, sudo ifup eth1
[10:55] <Pelo> BryanJK,      >   gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:55] <Shrike> dabaR: Yeah, I've done just that. I'm on live system now, "man chroot" nor "info chroot" doesn't really help. I mean, "sudo chroot /" doesn't really do what its supposed to?
[10:55] <khermans_> kodat, if it is already configured. then it works!
[10:55] <voltage> I just did a fresh install of the latest ubuntu and everything but my video card was picked up, games are choppy but I'd like to get something even an older Nvidia driver for my 7300LE 256 PCIx
[10:55] <frantic> So.  Has anyone ever had this problem?    I can still run commands here but i'm operating blindly.
[10:55] <Bacon> Ok, helpers, I mouted the ISO to a CD properly and I cant get it to load on restart
[10:55] <kodat> khermans_, yah but it hasnt been working lol
[10:56] <Danny1> hey, i'm new to ubuntu and i can't seem to get any mp3's playing... can someone help me :'(
[10:56] <kodat> khermans_, hmm im getting intervals 6-17 when i did up
[10:56] <iron_manh> hello
[10:56] <dabaR> Shrike: do sudo fdisk -l and find your normal ubuntu / partition, then sudo chroot /dev/XXX, that will chroot you there.
[10:56] <kodat> khermans_, but in connection properties it says eth1 disconnected
[10:56] <voltage> same here Danny think we have to add something to convert them (the MP3's)
[10:56] <Daviey> does anybody use the dhcp3 server?
[10:56] <frantic> one sec danny
[10:56] <Shrike> dabaR: Cheers
[10:57] <kodat> khermans_, im gona disconnect my hard connection see if anything catches
[10:57] <BryanJK> Ok
[10:57] <BryanJK> what do i do now Pelo?
[10:57] <frantic> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:57] <Pelo> BryanJK,  what is it you are trying to acheive anyway ?
[10:57] <frantic> I don't know how well that still applies to edgy, but that'll send you in the right direction
[10:57] <BryanJK> a 1600x1200 resoltuion
[10:57] <BryanJK> resolution*
[10:58] <Pelo> BryanJK,  what kind of screen ?
[10:58] <Minetus>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY ricardo
[10:58] <frantic> get that danny?
[10:58] <BryanJK> 21" CRT
[10:58] <Minetus> err
[10:58] <DanSchnell> I can't get ubuntu to load the desktop.  All I get is a weird colored screen.  Any Ideas?
[10:58] <Pelo> BryanJK,  your gonna need your screen's  refresh rate horizontal and vertical ,  look at the label on the back, should be a range
[10:58] <nisq> BryanJK (Sorry Pelo) what kind of video card?
[10:58] <javaJake> khermans_: Hey!
[10:59] <javaJake> I'm ready!
[10:59] <fo0b4er> Hi, I need some help here:  my bootsplash is very dim and hard to see...  can anyone help?
[10:59] <LjL> fo0b4er: nvidia?
[10:59] <BryanJK> Radeon x850xt
[10:59] <BryanJK> its 60Hz
[10:59] <linoob_> is there any rdp server for linux??
[10:59] <javaJake> BryanJK: Or, better yet, get the model number, and look up the product specs.
[10:59] <fo0b4er> LjL, no some really old card in a really old laptop
[10:59] <nisq> back to you Pelo
[10:59] <Pelo> BryanJK,  not the current refresh,  the one needed when using that 1600x1200 rez
[10:59] <javaJake> fo0b4er: what card?
[10:59] <Danny1> frantic, that's great, but i found that myself...
[10:59] <Danny1> problem is that to someone who doesn't know much about linux is completely lost trying to start
[10:59] <CzarAlex> What is the command completely remove a package?
[11:00] <BryanJK> 60hz ~~
[11:00] <javaJake> khermans_: you there...?
[11:00] <frantic> oh ok
[11:00] <LjL> fo0b4er: hmm, dunno then... it happened to me on nvidia - but it was solved in one of the last upgrades. you're running edgy final i suppose?
[11:00] <fo0b4er> yes
[11:00] <JoseStefan> CzarAlex, sudo apt-get --purge remove PKGNAME
[11:00] <BryanJK> 1600x1200 - 60hz
[11:00] <BryanJK> (as I just said)
[11:00] <CzarAlex> JoseStefan: Thanks!
[11:00] <fo0b4er> card: MagicMedia 256ZX
[11:00] <frantic> danny, the best way to install these packages in the "How to Make Things work in a hurry" is to open synaptic, which you find On System->Administration->Synaptic
[11:00] <DanSchnell> I've got a problem, whenever i try to boot ubuntu liveCD i get really weird colors on my screen (Both in edgy and dapper)
[11:00] <Pelo> BryanJK,  ok  scroll down the xorg.conf  ,, look for section "monitor" ,  change the horzsync so that 60 is part of the range , so if 28-50,  change to 28-60
[11:01] <BryanJK> done
[11:01] <Pelo> BryanJK,  that is only step one
[11:01] <BryanJK> hold on
[11:01] <pir4> i have problems getting an IP Adress in my DHCP Network with a ADMTek 8511 USB-Lan device... any help plz ? anything! :p
[11:01] <BryanJK> Ok done
[11:01] <thee> can anybody tell me the difference between helix player and real player?
[11:01] <frantic> then you just find those in the list and double click them, then hit apply
[11:01] <javaJake> pir4: Check dmesg. Are there any errors?
[11:01] <pir4> javaJake nop
[11:01] <overridex> anyone have a problem with evince in which all the interface's font is blocks since upgrading to edgy?
[11:01] <javaJake> pir4: then check /var/log/syslog (end of it)
[11:02] <Danny1> oh i see, thankyou - but couldn't i just save myself some time now by installing all of it?
[11:02] <rayok> a little help restoring grub.. linux is on the 1st partition of the 2nd sata hd in my box
[11:02] <LjL> thee: i believe that helix is open source, and real player is based upon that, but real player actually contains the realmedia decoders, while helix doesn't. not sure i get this right.
[11:02] <linoob_> is there any rdp server for linux??
[11:02] <Danny1> or rather all of the programs?
[11:02] <pir4> javaJake http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286990
[11:02] <BryanJK> What now Pelo?
[11:02] <kodat> allllllllright
[11:02] <frantic> what danny?
[11:02] <Pelo> BryanJK,  ok scroll down to  section "screen"  ,  subsection "display"   for each line of resolution add  a mention of   "1600x1200"
[11:02] <DanSchnell> i cant even get any help in this channel, this is ridiculou
[11:02] <fo0b4er> overridex: have you tried #evince on irc.gnome.something or other
[11:02] <BryanJK> As
[11:02] <OmniD> okay how do I install a tar.gz or .rpm
[11:02] <Pelo> BryanJK,  can I have a little time to type this stuff ?
[11:02] <frantic> you can select them all before you hit apply
[11:02] <nto> how do i get to chose 1360x1024 as screen resolution?
[11:02] <Puller> can i hav ehelp with the mana world game please?
[11:02] <overridex> fo0b4er: no
[11:02] <LjL> !patience | DanSchnell
[11:02] <ubotu> DanSchnell: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:02] <OmniD> (it has either package)
[11:02] <thee> LjL: ok.
[11:03] <javaJake> pir4: what's your /etc/network/interfaces file look like?
[11:03] <thee> !helix-player
[11:03] <ubotu> helix-player: the helix audio and video player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-3 (edgy), package size 3966 kB, installed size 10184 kB (Only available for i386 powerpc sparc)
[11:03] <frantic> or if you want to use the command line, "sudo apt-get install <list of packages>"
[11:03] <LjL> DanSchnell: have you tried booting it in safe graphics mode?
[11:03] <fo0b4er> overridex, try there... i think its irc.gnome.org
[11:03] <linoob_> my xubuntu has been stuck at configuring language-pack-en-base for a while, ne1 no y
[11:03] <DanSchnell> yup, still funny
[11:03] <pir4> javaJake mhh, ive no idea, how it should be ?
[11:03] <jmichaelx> would anyone have a suggestion as to how to get mplayer-plugin to work properly in firefox (in edgy)? i did uninstall totem, and re-installed mplayer, but it is still not functioning correctly
[11:03] <thee> !realplay
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about realplay - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <linoob_> installer
[11:03] <pir4> javaJake havent checked
[11:03] <thee> !realplayer
[11:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:03] <kodat> man i totally forgot the name of the dude helping me
[11:03] <Shrike> dabaR: I'm still not getting this to work, heres what I get:
[11:03] <Shrike> root@ubuntu:/# chroot /dev/hda2
[11:03] <Puller> anyne play mana world?
[11:03] <Shrike> chroot: cannot change root directory to /dev/hda2: Not a directory
[11:03] <BryanJK> sorry
[11:03] <sycho> DanSchnell, did you try the alternate install?
[11:03] <DanSchnell> LjL, i've tried adding vga-771 to my boot line to and that doesn't do it either
[11:03] <BryanJK> I didnt mean to type as
[11:03] <Danny1> that's ok frantic, i think i understand now, thank you very much for your help! :P
[11:03] <Daviey> hi, can somebody help me get dhcp3-server set up?
[11:04] <BryanJK> woops >__>
[11:04] <LjL> DanSchnell: can you get to a console, at least? (ctrl+alt+f1)
[11:04] <DanSchnell> LjL, haven't tried
[11:04] <BryanJK> my chat window is like staying Way behind sometimes lol
[11:04] <BryanJK> Ok
[11:04] <frantic> also you MAY need to add the universe and multiverse repositories to get some of those
[11:04] <dabaR> Shrike: sorry, mount that somewhere first, then chroot to that dir
[11:04] <javaJake> pir4: What's the UID of the device?
[11:04] <frantic> or maybe it's community.  i don't remember
[11:04] <OmniD> I wish to know how to install software that comes in a package that isn't a .deb. It comes in a .tar.gz and in .rpm files.
[11:04] <LjL> DanSchnell: you could try, just to see if it's a problem with X or a wider problem... you could get the Alternate CD and try installing from there, but it'd be useless if, after having it installed, the same behavior occurred
[11:05] <Shrike> dabaR: duh, of course, silly me
[11:05] <sycho> Anyone tell me the consequences of removing the package Ubuntu-Desktop? I read its safe but alot of the Pre Installed apps in edgy force unistall Ubuntu-desktop with it.
[11:05] <BryanJK> Wait
[11:05] <OmniD> Which one should I use and how would I install it?
[11:05] <pir4> javaJake UID ?
[11:05] <lnxtech> Can I compile and use the alsa-1.0.13 kernel driver (only way for my headphones to work) and leave the alsa-base and alsa-lib files from edgy on my system or would I need to update those to 1.0.13 as well?
[11:05] <kodat> alright..my wireless network exists..but wifi radar and kiwi tell me that there are no networks in range...anyone have a solution?
[11:05] <bgrupe-> sycho: if they force is, something is really broken
[11:05] <bgrupe-> is=it
[11:05] <kodat> !network
[11:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:05] <DanSchnell> LjL, I haven't even installed ubuntu, I'm just trying to get the LiveCD to work..
[11:05] <javaJake> pir4: Yea... http://www.expandapps.org/pics/DevMgrWUSB54GS.png
[11:05] <Daviey> OmniD, tar.gz you need to untar them and rpm you need 'alien' to convert them.  Look at the ubuntu FAQ it will show you how
[11:05] <LjL> sycho: yes, they force it because they were installed *because* ubuntu-desktop required them as dependencies. basically ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that list everything else (that's installed by default) as dependencies
[11:05] <godmachine81> pir4:: do you have a wep/wpa key?
[11:05] <javaJake> pir4: See info.udi in that list?
[11:05] <javaJake> godmachine81: This is an ethernet device
[11:06] <LjL> sycho: so it's normal that it gets removed when you remove a package that was installed by default
[11:06] <gnomefreak> sycho: removing it is fine but make sure its installed before upgrading to the next ubuntu release
[11:06] <javaJake> Not wireless
[11:06] <godmachine81> oh i thought it said wireless usb
[11:06] <javaJake> :)
[11:06] <javaJake> No
[11:06] <fo0b4er> anyone else have any ideas:  my bootsplash is really dim and grey
[11:06] <OmniD> Daviey: So I need to uncompress the tar and install the files inside?
[11:06] <javaJake> That's what I've got
[11:06] <overridex> fo0b4er: are you on 64-bit?
[11:06] <javaJake> pir4: Goto System -> Administration -> Device Mnager
[11:06] <nick01> the live cd gave an error about atyfb not having enough video ram but it got past that and now with it installed I get a wite csreen at boot :(
[11:06] <gnomefreak> OmniD: depends what it is for
[11:06] <fo0b4er> overrides: no
[11:06] <javaJake> pir4: then find your device, click on it, and click the advanced tab.
[11:06] <DanSchnell> LjL: what would I be looking for in the console?
[11:06] <pir4> javaJake why do you need that ?
[11:06] <sycho> bgrupe: When I try to remove Serpentine, Rhythmbox, Ekiga Phone, X-sane image scanner and more it always makes me uninstll Ubuntu-Desktop with it
[11:06] <mcrandello> hey guys if I need to set an irq for something it would be in /etc/modprobe.d/options, or somewhere else?
[11:06] <LjL> DanSchnell: i know - i'm saying that, with the Alternate CD, you can install Ubuntu even if the Desktop CD (the "live" one) doesn't work.  But i'm also saying it's going to be useless if you end up with an installation that's as unusable as the Desktop CD
[11:06] <javaJake> pir4: Perfect Googling stuff
[11:06] <fo0b4er> *overridex, no, sorry
[11:07] <wsmith> I'm about to reforamt-reinstall. I have a md raid device. Where are the settings for mdadm stored so I can access the array once I'm back online?
[11:07] <LjL> DanSchnell: nothing specifically... i'd just see if you can reach it at all
[11:07] <BryanJK> hmm
[11:07] <OmniD> gnomefreak: I am installing vmware tools, which are virtualization tools and ubuntu is inside the virtualized environment.
[11:07] <Daviey> OmniD, it is normally source code.  So you will need to build it.  for that you will need to 'make' it.  so you will need the package 'build-essentials'
[11:07] <pir4> javaJake im in win right now, i cant connect to inet in lin yet, thats the prob
[11:07] <LjL> DanSchnell: do you see the boot splash anyway?
[11:07] <BryanJK> after i do that? do i reboot?
[11:07] <nto> how do i get to chose 1360x1024 as screen resolution?
[11:07] <javaJake> pir4: LOL... OK
[11:07] <nick01> HELP !
[11:07] <godmachine81> pir4:: have you tested the actual ethernet cable your using on a different device?
[11:07] <nick01> it won't boot !
[11:07] <Pelo> nto,  you need to edit the xorg.conf file
[11:07] <gnomefreak> OmniD: read the readme and install files but unless there is an install script you will have to compile it
[11:07] <bgrupe-> sycho: oh, you want to uninstall those. then it's fine. but as gnomefreak mentioned make sure you have ubuntu-desktop again when upgrading to ubuntu 7.04 :)
[11:07] <BryanJK> Pelo
[11:07] <DanSchnell> LjL, I get to the boot menu and the boot splash but then it crashes/weirds out but I can still here the ubuntu opening sound (With the drums and stuff)
[11:07] <Pelo> BryanJK, ???
[11:07] <godmachine81> pir4:: so it works in windows just not linux?
[11:07] <javaJake> godmachine81: It works in Windows, bud. :P
[11:07] <BryanJK> Pelo, after im done editing it do i reboot?
[11:07] <pir4> javaJake making fun of me :'(
[11:08] <LjL> nick01: have you verified the CD?
[11:08] <javaJake> pir4: No
[11:08] <nto> Pelo, got any HowTo for that?
[11:08] <Pelo> BryanJK,   cross you fingers first ,  then reboot
[11:08] <reiki> I managed to bugger-up the wine install on my edgy hard drive that I may have to reinstall edgy! :)
[11:08] <nick01> LjL, ppc there's no option for that
[11:08] <BryanJK> LOL
[11:08] <BryanJK> brb
[11:08] <nick01> LjL, it installed fine btw
[11:08] <Triplemeh> anyone besides me take notice as to how buggy the latest Anjuta is?
[11:08] <Daviey> OmniD, so 'sudo apt-get install build-essentails'.  You will then need to untar the the archieve and read the INSTALL file.  It's normally 'make' followed by 'make install'.  often it is better to use 'checkinstall -D' instead of make install as this will build a deb file.  (So you can remove / upgrade later)
[11:08] <z0id> what's ubuntu's equivalent of debian's base-config?
[11:08] <mcrandello> because I just noticed the mouse and wifi were on the same irq
[11:08] <javaJake> :D
[11:08] <sycho> bgrupe: ok. After I unistall all those apps, when I go to reinstall ubuntu-desktop will it reload all those apps with it?
[11:08] <mcrandello> and the wifi only seems to work when I move the mouse
[11:08] <bgrupe-> sycho: yes
[11:09] <Triplemeh> I got a bug by creating an object
[11:09] <gnomefreak> javaJake: than i shouldnt hear "but it works on windows"
[11:09] <pir4> javaJake lets say that in dmesg and ifconfig i see the device perfecly, but i cant get an ip in dhcp
[11:09] <Pelo> nto,  not that I remember ,   in terminal  >  gksu  gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:09] <mcrandello> I *could* hook up a second mouse as a footpedal
[11:09] <sycho> bgrupe: no way to break those dependencies?
[11:09] <Danny1> frantic- the synaptic pack doesn't have all the things listed that i need to install :(
[11:09] <LjL> DanSchnell: ok, try this: when it has finished booting, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a console. the username is "ubuntu" i believe, with empty password. then type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and select the VESA driver rather than the specific driver for your card (which is probably selected by default)
[11:09] <mikeconcepts> have an important question!! Friend trying to get onto ubuntu having problems with power management. For some reason even while he is typing ubunto will go to sleep, how do I explain to him how to remove power management?
[11:09] <frantic> ok i guess you need to add repositories
[11:09] <gnomefreak> Triplemeh: i dont have issues with anjuta 2.0.2 but people have
[11:09] <javaJake> gnomefreak: No... that was about the ethernet cable. LOL. Someone said that they should check the cable, and I said that it worked in Windows, so it wasn't the cable
[11:09] <LjL> DanSchnell: as for the other options, you can probably leave them at their defaults... maybe just set a low resolution, so you're sure the monitor can display it
[11:09] <nisq> LjL how do you boot the Alternate CD, I have one, do I need to reburn?
[11:09] <frantic> System->Administration->Software Sources
[11:09] <bgrupe-> sycho: it may "corrupt" your installation if you dont have them for upgrades :(
[11:09] <gnomefreak> javaJake: oh
[11:09] <javaJake> :D
[11:09] <javaJake> Yea
[11:09] <Pelo> I need to reboot , brb
[11:10] <mikeconcepts> need to disable acpi somehow?
[11:10] <Triplemeh> I get crashes if I close a project after I've closed all of the files I use
[11:10] <nto> Pelo,  and what should I add? i'v alreday added the reolution 1360x1024 in the display section, didnt work tough
[11:10] <frantic> Probably universe and restricted aren't selected.
[11:10] <frantic> select them and close or hit ok or whatever
[11:10] <DanSchnell> LjL, can i set the resolution through my monitor buttons?  or do i need to through the ubuntu boot menu?
[11:10] <pir4> javaJake any help dude ?
[11:10] <LjL> nisq, if you already have the Alternate CD, you can boot from it an install in a text-mode installer. if you only have the Desktop CD and want the alternate, yeah, you'll need to get it and burn it
[11:10] <bgrupe-> sycho: my suggestion would be to leave them installed anyway, they do little harm other than taking a bit of space
[11:10] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell nisq about alternate
[11:10] <frantic> and let me know when you've finished that step
[11:10] <iron_manh> anybody uses dual-monitor with Edgy and have a problem with cursor rendering?
[11:10] <mcrandello> mikeconcepts, in /boot/grub/menu.lst you can add "noacpi" to the boot options I think
[11:10] <thedude> trying to set up xgl and compiz per the instructions at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy/EyeCandy#How_to_install_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28Nvidia.29
[11:11] <javaJake> pir4: Basically, try Googling around. It's the best your gonna do for instant support. I could do some Googling for you, but without some sort of ID or real product name / model, I can't do a thing.
[11:11] <nick01> LjL, it just sais atyfb- not enough video ram and then a white screen the livecd got past that error btw
[11:11] <Triplemeh> I'd use the install cd if I was too lazy to remove my video card
[11:11] <thedude> and im getting
[11:11] <Triplemeh> I mean, the alternate cd
[11:11] <thedude> XGL Absent, assuming AIGLX
[11:11] <thedude> GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing
[11:11] <thedude> Failed to manage screen: 0
[11:11] <gnomefreak> lspci ;)
[11:11] <javaJake> pir4: the name you gave me isn't really cutting it.
[11:11] <sycho> bgrupe: alright. wish there was a fix though. In Dapper it didn't do this. :/ I just like a clean system and not have extra apps I don't use
[11:11] <thedude> No manageable screens found on display :0.0
[11:11] <thedude> anyone know whats going on?
[11:11] <LjL> DanSchnell: no, and no -- only set a relatively low resolution when you do the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". you'll be asked about that. but actually, nevermind, just leave the default, and just remember to set "vesa" as the driver, when asked... then if it still does not load, try again the safe graphics option
[11:11] <javaJake> khermans_: you there?
[11:12] <bgrupe-> sycho: unfortunately the package system works in such a way :(
[11:12] <acidt> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28941/  < help :|
[11:12] <pir4> javaJake which name ? what do you mean ?
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> Berdine: Broken MBR?  What from?
[11:12] <nisq> LjL  I downloaded the alternate, must be a bad burn because it isnt recognized at boot...
[11:12] <acidt> any1
[11:12] <sycho> bgrupe: I understand. thanks for your help
[11:12] <LjL> nick01, do you see the Grub menu when booting?
[11:12] <nisq> !alternate
[11:12] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[11:12] <DanSchnell> LjL, where do i change the drive to VESA?
[11:12] <LjL> nisq: check it
[11:12] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell nisq about md5
[11:12] <BryanJK> lol pelo
[11:12] <BryanJK> my ubuntu broked
[11:12] <nick01> LjL, in ppc ? I don't think so :)
[11:13] <javaJake> pir4: FOr instance, when I went to find out how to get my wireless USB working, I googled the UID 13b1:000e, and/or the product name Linksys Wireless-G USB Adapter with SpeedBooster.
[11:13] <LjL> nick01: why not?
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> BryanJK: You'll have to give everyone more info than that.
[11:13] <Berdine> tonyyarusso, Failed Edgy install... now when I try to boot up it just says it can't find the operating system, thus blocking me from my windows partition and my broken edgy partition. I suspect I might be able to get it to work if I could install grub somehow, but I don't know~
[11:13] <Danny1> frantic- do you mean software properties?
[11:13] <javaJake> pir4: Without a standard name, you really can't get good results in Google.
[11:13] <BryanJK> lol
[11:13] <nick01> LjL, this is an ibook - mac apple hardware G3
[11:13] <BryanJK> he was helping me fix my resolution
[11:13] <frantic> are you using dapper drake or edgy eft?
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> !recover | Berdine
[11:13] <ubotu> recover: Undelete files on ext2 partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3c-10 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB
[11:13] <capiCrimm> I just upgraded to edgy and now there's a weird screen on boot-up. It reminds me of a graphics card check. Crudely drawn circles and triangles and a bar that loads.?s
[11:13] <BryanJK> and hes like "Cross your fingers and reboot" and it wont boot..
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> What?  ubotu..
[11:13] <pir4> i c
[11:13] <capiCrimm> anyone know what it is?
[11:13] <pir4> ill get it ok ?
[11:13] <BryanJK> Oh well... lol
[11:13] <javaJake> pir4: You are trying to think of something to search for that most people would write down - it's going to be either product name (as on box) or UID (found in logs, usually)
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> Berdine: Ignore that...we seem to have a change of factoid.
[11:13] <javaJake> pir4: OK
[11:13] <BryanJK> brb
[11:13] <mikeconcepts> mcrandello, thanks, we are in that file now and will try that, it it works, it will bring another ubuntu user onboard
[11:14] <javaJake> pir4: Thx. :D
[11:14] <nisq> Thanks LjL  I will try again, but from what I read it seems to be used for upgrade after booting with live CD?
[11:14] <Berdine> tonyyarusso, Okay :3
[11:14] <javaJake> khermans_: you there?
[11:14] <iron_manh> i have a problem with cursor rendering on my second monitor using Edgy: the driver is ATI. anybody know the solution?
[11:14] <LjL> DanSchnell: look, just follow these steps: 1) boot, and wait till you hear the sound  2) hit Ctrl+Alt+F1  3) login with user "ubuntu" and empty password  4) type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  5) you'll be asked a few things, leave all the defaults (by pressing Enter), and only change the answer to the first question, by selecting "vesa"
[11:14] <gnomefreak> capiCrimm: thats the test card for the usplash it shouldnt be there anymore please run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   also make sure ubuntu-desktop is installed
[11:14] <Shrike> dabaR: Thanks a lot for the tips, its upgrading now... gonna stick around just in case something strange comes up, but it looks like things are going smooth.
[11:14] <Danny1> dappa drake
[11:14] <LjL> nick01: ok, but i don't see why you couldn't take an MD5 sum of the disc anyway
[11:14] <minetus> i need help, i cant do partition on hdd, ive tried using a linuxrescuedisk with qtparted but i get this error: "opening '/dev/hda1' as NTFS failed: Operation not suported" can someone help please
[11:14] <mikeconcepts> mcrandello, if it works, I'll let you know
[11:15] <LjL> nick01: oh wait, sorry
[11:15] <frantic> ok, maybe software properties would do it?  but the way I know works is go do it from synaptic
[11:15] <tonyyarusso> Berdine: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows (I know that's not what happened, but same procedure)
[11:15] <DanSchnell> LjL: K I'll try it, be back in 5-40
[11:15] <LjL> nick01: i was multitasking too much... i've been confusing you with nisq =)
[11:15] <kodat> anyone know why my wireless says no networks in range? but my other computers are connected with wifi but on xp
[11:15] <nick01> k
[11:15] <Buzzygirl> Hello
[11:15] <dabaR> Shrike: cool
[11:15] <acidt> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28941/  any1
[11:15] <frantic> from synaptic, go to the Settings menu and select repositories
[11:15] <javaJake> kodat: is the network hidden?
[11:15] <mcrandello> mikeconcepts, http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~und1/menu.lst has an example
[11:15] <frantic> you should be able to add the repositories there
[11:15] <mcrandello> mikeconcepts, I think it's acpi=off
[11:16] <dekela_> dabaR, No Success
[11:16] <kodat> JavaJake, no its broadcasting..
[11:16] <opixus> is any one having problem with banshee in edgy
[11:16] <LjL> nick01: well, then i don't know what you see, but whatever you see instead of the Grub menu, try to find out how you can change the kernel parameters, and look at any parameters that seem to be related to the graphics, and take them away... *ahum* this is a bit generic, but since you're on Mac...
[11:16] <javaJake> kodat: Hmmmm... does it work with other networks?
[11:16] <kodat> javaJake, i even have the right ssid and p/w
[11:16] <Zdra> does any one knows when feisty branch will be open ?
[11:16] <nisq> !md5
[11:16] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[11:16] <kodat> javaJake, no it doesnt scan anything at all..thats whats wrong
[11:16] <dekela_> dabaR, sudo grub-install /dev/sdb gave me an error that it is unable to find /boot partition
[11:16] <javaJake> kodat: I see
[11:16] <jdroid-> hi. is anyone having trouble with packages.freecontrib.org ?
[11:16] <javaJake> kodat: Is there anything in the logs that might help?
[11:16] <cps1966> anyone having trouble with sun-java5-bin ?????????
[11:16] <tonyyarusso> Zdra: Soon, but no specifics.
[11:16] <dabaR> dekela_: you are in a live cd boot?
[11:16] <javaJake> cps1966: Nope
[11:16] <_ph00> I tried to clean install Edgy from the liveCD interface, but when I got to the partitioner I couldn't continue because it said "no root filesystem set" but I did set a partition mounted as /
[11:17] <kodat> javaJake, all the logs are normal = ( it just doesnt work
[11:17] <Berdine> tonyyarusso, thank ya :D
[11:17] <tonyyarusso> jdroid-: PLF has closed shop, pending a new maintainer.
[11:17] <dekela_> dabaR, Now windows
[11:17] <javaJake> kodat: what's your device's product name or UID
[11:17] <iron_manh> does anybody know how to fix cursor rendering problem on second monitor with edgy?
[11:17] <javaJake> UDI*
[11:17] <kodat> javaJake, i can show u all the logs u want but i dont think u will find anything wrong with them..but i dont know any linux haha
[11:17] <opixus> is any one having problem with banshee in edgy
[11:17] <dabaR> dekela_: why not come here while in live cd?
[11:17] <capiCrimm> it's like first thing after ubuntu's boot screen
[11:17] <nick01> LjL, ppc doesn't use grub it uses yaboot I think it's named and I don't see that screen telling me what its doing until GDM I only see text
[11:17] <javaJake> kodat: Ah, OK, maybe I should take a look then. :D
[11:17] <LjL> !anyone | opixus
[11:17] <ubotu> opixus: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:17] <cps1966> javaJake:  well i keep geting bad md5sum
[11:17] <ianmacgregor> gnomefreak: Got a minute for a pm?
[11:17] <dekela_> dabaR, No xchat... However I can use gaim
[11:17] <kodat> javaJake, yeah for all i know im just dumb (which is very probably)
[11:17] <javaJake> cps1966: Oh... so it isn't downloading correctly, then?
[11:17] <Zdra> tonyyarusso: ok... thx :)
[11:17] <javaJake> cps1966: Let me try now...
[11:17] <jdroid-> tonyyarusso: wow. why?
[11:17] <kodat> javaJake, probable even
[11:18] <javaJake> kodat: :P
[11:18] <dekela_> dabaR, Ok, See you in 5
[11:18] <dabaR> dekela_: come back then
[11:18] <gnomefreak> ianmacgregor: im kind of busy right now whats up?
[11:18] <tonyyarusso> jdroid-: Guy didn't want to take care of it anymore.  If you'd like to pick up where they left off, let them know.
[11:18] <kodat> javaJake, what do u want to see, ill use nopaste
[11:18] <javaJake> !paste
[11:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:18] <javaJake> The whole thing.
[11:18] <retry> so I just updated an uim deps can't be satisfied and all my UIM apps are broken
[11:18] <javaJake> Easy
[11:18] <retry> also fontconfig has errors
[11:18] <kodat> javaJake, well what command in terminal do u want
[11:18] <LjL> nick01, well, i don't know about yaboot nor do i appear to find much information about it in the ubuntu wiki... :-\ but i think there must be some key combination at boot time to let you modify the kernel parameters, like in Grub
[11:18] <ianmacgregor> gnomefreak: Just wondering if it's ok to recommend Seveas's repo now that PLF has closed shop.
[11:18] <jdroid-> tonyyarusso: i don't have the resources. shame, though. liked what they were doing.
[11:19] <opixus> Ok when i start up banshee 0.11.1 in edgy all that happens is it starts up the splash and stop when it gets to initializing audio any suggestions
[11:19] <jlmb> Hi, im having trouble playing a *.mov file. Sounds works but video is all corrupted. I searched for w32codecs but is not longer on the repositories (edgy) so I manually downloaded and installed the w32codecs but video is still corrupted. Any ideas?
[11:19] <retry> !fontconfig
[11:19] <ubotu> fontconfig: generic font configuration library - support binaries. In component main, is optional. Version 2.3.2-7ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 43 kB, installed size 156 kB
[11:19] <gnomefreak> ianmacgregor: we all do but make sure it is known that it is a 3rd party repo and the apps are not supported by ubuntu ;)
[11:19] <jdroid-> tonyyarusso: do you know if dvd playback is possible without their repo?
[11:19] <nick01> LjL, I think I should get rid of atyfb that's giving the error but dunno with wha tdriver to replace it
[11:19] <ianmacgregor> gnomefreak: Ahh, ok, will do
[11:19] <javaJake> kodat: cat /var/log/syslog
[11:20] <javaJake> I'd, uh, open it in gedit
[11:20] <javaJake> Actually
[11:20] <LjL> nick01, the "fb" makes me thing it's a framebuffer driver. on Intel machines, we don't need framebuffer enabled by default (and generally don't have it enabled by default), since we have "real" text-mode... i don't know what the situation would be like on a Mac
[11:20] <OmniD> Daviey, it says it could not find the package
[11:20] <javaJake> kodat: the output is going to be huge
[11:20] <OmniD> I thought build essentials were automatically a part of ubuntu anyways?
[11:20] <tonyyarusso> jdroid-: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-38508785e53c611dde1859232189b2e823135eb9
[11:20] <nick01> LjL, laptops seem to like fb better
[11:21] <javaJake> OmniD: They are... I think...
[11:21] <LjL> nick01: if it were a PC, i'd just tell you to edit your kernel parameters in Grub to remove the atyfb option. but then, since it's not a PC, it'd probably not even boot
[11:21] <zelda276> any other ubuntu newbies here?
[11:21] <kodat> javaJake, yeah it doesnt all fit but here. :  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/03XlTE62.html
[11:21] <prower> Hello everyone :> I just installed Eft, 3d acceleration is working fine..._but_, when I use an opengl screensaver, it will only display a blank screen even though it works in the preview :/ Any ideas?
[11:21] <LjL> OmniD:, javaJake: they're not installed by default. they're on the CD, though
[11:21] <JoshuaW> Hello
[11:21] <sheepsheep> are zlip and gzip two diffrent extension for apache, or are they the same thing ?
[11:21] <JoshuaW> Can someone help me?
[11:21] <javaJake> LjL: Ah
[11:22] <javaJake> OmniD: do you have the CD in your repos?
[11:22] <LjL> !pm | JoshuaW
[11:22] <ubotu> JoshuaW: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[11:22] <ianmacgregor> LjL: Is most of the stuff in the Main repo on the CD as well?
[11:22] <OmniD> LjL but synaptic cannot find them??
[11:22] <Triplemeh> prower
[11:22] <javaJake> kodat: you are using NetworkManager, and it has gotten an IP
[11:22] <Triplemeh> if you open the terminal and enter "fglrxinfo" what does it say?
[11:22] <Alethes> is there a libtunepimp plugin for rhythmbox?
[11:22] <Daviey> OmniD, try  "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[11:22] <mcrandello> JoshuaW, maybe, go ahead and state your issue :)
[11:22] <OmniD> I did that too
[11:22] <kodat> javaJake, but it doesnt connect to the wireless at all = ( if i disconnect my hard connection i have nothing
[11:22] <loki505> is there a way to install limewire
[11:22] <JoshuaW> Okay, well I've tried getting my DWL-G122 adapter to work, but when I tried a method; the ubuntu went slow
[11:22] <javaJake> kodat: interface eth0
[11:22] <LjL> OmniD, javaJake: on a second thought, i'm not entirely sure they're on the cd
[11:22] <loki505> on ubuntu
[11:22] <sheepsheep> are zlip and gzip two diffrent extension for apache, or are they the same thing ?
[11:22] <Triplemeh> wait, nvidia or ati?
[11:22] <OmniD> Daviey, It said it could not find them
[11:22] <javaJake> kodat: Ah
[11:22] <LjL> ianmacgregor: i wouldn't say "most"... but a lot. perhaps most.
[11:22] <OmniD> Via the apt-get
[11:22] <prower> Triplemeh: Triplemeh: Doesn't say anything actually, I have an NVidia card :>
[11:22] <KGnome> any good temp sensor monitors???
[11:23] <OmniD> oh build-essential not essentials
[11:23] <Daviey> OmniD, hmm do you ahev universe and multiverse repositories enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:23] <Triplemeh> oh, then I don't know
[11:23] <iron_manh> anyone know how to fix cursor rendering problem on second monitor in edgy?
[11:23] <LjL> OmniD: yes
[11:23] <kodat> javaJake, i tryed to down then up my eth1, but nothing
[11:23] <tonyyarusso> KGnome: computer-temp from berlios.de
[11:23] <|thunder> Anyone else have error when trying to import photos from a digital camera via USB after upgrading to edgy? I get an error now.
[11:23] <prower> Ahh..well thanks
[11:23] <LjL> Daviey: build-essential is all in Main
[11:23] <javaJake> kodat: Yea...
[11:23] <OmniD> Daviey, not plural my bad
[11:23] <zelda276> im completely new to ubuntu and want to know: where should i start? anyone have links to good beginners guides?
[11:23] <kodat> javaJake, dunno what it is = (
[11:23] <Triplemeh> wait
[11:23] <Daviey> OmniD, no problems
[11:23] <outRider> is there a way to browse wireless APs in edgy or do i have to find one? for the current network app i have to know the ssid
[11:23] <LjL> zelda276: http://help.ubuntu.com/community
[11:23] <KGnome> that site doesn't exist
[11:23] <Triplemeh> did you install the driver with these steps? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[11:23] <jlmb> *.mov sound works but video is corrupted. Which codecs do I need to install? (I installed all the codecs for restricted formats already)
[11:23] <Daviey> LjL, chees
[11:23] <JoshuaW> :P
[11:23] <Daviey> LjL, cheers
[11:24] <nick01> LjL, nautilus in edgy is very slow I think I may have to replace it with debian etch :|
[11:24] <nikin> is here anyone who could help me with Windowmaker?
[11:24] <mcrandello> JoshuaW, tough one, I'm having some problems with my own wifi at the moment, one thing I noticed is that edgy put it on the same IRQ with the USB and the modem
[11:24] <marcin_ant> hi guys how can I test which sata driver is used by my machine?
[11:24] <LjL> nick01: dunno, i use KDE
[11:24] <nick01> k
[11:24] <zelda276> thx ljl ill try that but the huge list of info is rather overwhelming
[11:24] <ianmacgregor> nikin: I can try
[11:24] <Daviey> Can somebody help me set up dhcp server!  I had it working but upgrading to edgy seemed to bork it
[11:24] <Marsmensch> hi, i have a problem with flash files ... i use edgy and everytime i get on a site with flash the browser crashes
[11:24] <marcin_ant> I got asus p5b mobo and barracuda 7200.10 hdd which supports ncq
[11:24] <LjL> zelda276: i understand... but you can ask here at any rate
[11:25] <Daviey> Marsmensch, do you have flash installed?
[11:25] <nikin> ian: i cant get the Debian menu in to the Menu of Windowmaker
[11:25] <randomi> Anyone on Edgy find a fix to the vlc bin problem?
[11:25] <JoshuaW> I'm still stuck, and I did a search a lot :P
[11:25] <peridot> what's the recommended way to serve files over an untrusted network? (I control both server and client)
[11:25] <pir4> javaJake hey you there?
[11:25] <prower> Triplemeh: Oh, yes...that was the guide I initially used, I had a problem but after running the command it mentioned it was fine
[11:25] <jdroid-> tonyyarusso: thanks.
[11:25] <kodat> javaJake, any ideas? = (
[11:25] <C-O-L-T> hello I have a bug in dapper drake. I use laptop, when I close the laptop lid and reopen it a blank screen appears and I can not go back to gnome
[11:25] <pir4> javaJake info.udi   /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_7a6_8511_0001
[11:25] <pir4> info.product   ADM8511 Pegasus II Ethernet
[11:25] <javaJake> kodat: Your device has the Pegasus II chio
[11:25] <ianmacgregor> nikin: Ok, I guess I can't :) I don't use the debian menu
[11:25] <javaJake> kodat: chip*
[11:25] <jlmb> peridot: depends on what are you serving.
[11:25] <kodat> javaJake, i have no idea what that means
[11:25] <Triplemeh> oh
[11:25] <javaJake> kodat: So I'm going to google around with that
[11:25] <kodat> javaJake, is that bad
[11:25] <dabaR> Marsmensch: does lsmod show anything about sata?
[11:25] <kodat> javaJake,  oh alright
[11:26] <nikin> ian: do you use any other system generated menu? or you use your own?
[11:26] <jlmb> peridot: and who you want to serve too
[11:26] <dabaR> Marsmensch: sorry
[11:26] <Marsmensch> Daviey:  i tried flash 9 beta, flashplugin-nonfree and flash 7
[11:26] <ianmacgregor> nikin: I always write my own
[11:26] <JoshuaW> Is there anyway to get to Ubuntu, whilst still using Windows?
[11:26] <dabaR> marcin_ant: does lsmod show anything about sata?
[11:26] <peridot> jlmb: a bit of everything; music, video, text, source code, served to me from my home fileserver
[11:26] <Marsmensch> dabaR:np
[11:26] <javaJake> kodat: Pegasus II chip is what your device really is. AMDTek probably just relabeled it and modified it a tiny bit
[11:26] <jlmb> peridot: to whom?
[11:27] <peridot> jlmb: served from my home fileserver to my laptop
[11:27] <jlmb> peridot: locally @ home?
[11:27] <nikin> ian :D ok then... i have nothing to do... i will do the same... i look forward to my next 3 hours :D
[11:27] <marcin_ant> dabaR: yes it does
[11:27] <zelda276> can you dual boot ubuntu with XP?
[11:27] <mcrandello> JoshuaW, not unless you have something like vmware installed, even then it would be suboptimal for trying to troubleshoot hardware issues
[11:27] <jlmb> peridot: not across the internet?
[11:27] <LjL> zelda276: if you ask me, the *one* most important thing you should know about is that software should be installed from the repositories.
[11:27] <pir4> javaJake uh ?
[11:27] <kodat> javaJake, well i dont know if thats bad or not hehe = (
[11:27] <ianmacgregor> nikin: :)
[11:27] <dabaR> marcin_ant: what exactly? ?
[11:27] <LjL> zelda276: yes, you can
[11:27] <javaJake> pir4: ......
[11:27] <marcin_ant> dabaR: unfortunately it shows both two drivers
[11:27] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell zelda276 about dualboot
[11:27] <peridot> mostly at home, though it's handy to be able to at least access the files (if slowly) across the open internet
[11:27] <pb_> anote this msn leandrosanchez_607
[11:27] <zelda276> ljl: repositories... will need to look that up
[11:27] <Daviey> JoshuaW, the live cd that comes with Ubuntu Desktop is great for testing!!!
[11:28] <jman8888> !dualboot > zelda276
[11:28] <marcin_ant> dabaR: ahci and ata_piix
[11:28] <LjL> zelda276: Ubotu has sent you a message about them, among other things
[11:28] <JoshuaW> That didn't make sense, Daviey.
[11:28] <dabaR> marcin_ant: so you would like to know which one is used? I think both it both are shown.
[11:28] <ianmacgregor> Are there any apps for gnome that are somewhat equivalent to KDE's klipper?
[11:28] <javaJake> kodat: uh....
[11:28] <zelda276> thx
[11:28] <javaJake> kodat: wait a moment....
[11:28] <dabaR> marcin_ant: try modinfo <modName>
[11:28] <Daviey> JoshuaW, How so?
[11:28] <jdroid-> has anyone has any issues with ndiswrappers in edgy? i have the dreaded broadcom 43xx card, but it worked perfectly in 6.06. 6.10 loading the ndiswrapper module doesn't seem to work
[11:28] <kodat> javaJake, take your time hehe
[11:28] <JoshuaW> I have ubuntu setup on this computer, and its become inaccessible due to a mistake I made :P
[11:28] <mcrandello> JoshuaW, the only thing I could think of to try myself is if you're using ndiswrapper try this driver->http://anirudhs.chaosnet.org/blog/2005.10.23.html  or vice versa
[11:29] <JoshuaW> Yeah, but I have one setup.
[11:29] <javaJake> kodat, pir4: I got you two mixed up! LOL!
[11:29] <javaJake> pir4: YOU have a Pegasus II chipset
[11:29] <peridot> jlmb: I had no luck finding standard encrypted versions of either NFS or SMB; currently I use sshfs, but I'm forever opening terminals to remount it
[11:29] <jlmb> peridot: ok, this is what I do. I have a VPN server running on my router (WRT54G) which allows to me connect to my home network. Then I serve the data stored on another on the server via smaba.
[11:29] <pb_> me voy hijos de puta/in english uncle fucks
[11:29] <pir4> javaJake i also got my /etc/network/interface :  auto lo iface lo inet loopback #iface eth0 inet dhcp #auto eth1 iface eth1 inet dhcp
[11:29] <mikeconcepts> mcrandello, if you are still thre, please look at this and advise where to put pci=noacpi and acpi=off http://pastebin.ca/226841
[11:29] <javaJake> kodat: I don't know what your card is... can you tell me what it is
[11:29] <__osh__> Anyone know how to get a stacktrace from gdb? I manage to crash a program but I don't get any stacktrace even with the command "thread apply all bt". Do I have to do something else to print the output?
[11:29] <OmniD> Daviey, so now that I installed the build essentials, I do what?
[11:29] <javaJake> pir4: OK
[11:29] <marcin_ant> dabaR: ok there is some additional info but how can I get information which hdd uses which driver?
[11:29] <JoshuaW> Is there any chance that my connection could be messing it up?
[11:29] <ianmacgregor> !language > pbwells
[11:29] <jrib> !debug > __osh__
[11:29] <kodat> javaJake, its a broadcom ...but its a dell 1390 according to dell
[11:29] <JoshuaW> Since the terminal program reported continious errors I think
[11:29] <Daviey> OmniD, okay you have an tar you want to untar?
[11:29] <OmniD> Daviey, sudo make install FILE.tar.gz [?]
[11:29] <OmniD> Yes
[11:29] <__osh__> jrib: Thanks.
[11:29] <savvas> does anyone have a solution to this bug? http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=366478
[11:30] <javaJake> kodat: Oooohhhhhh
[11:30] <jlmb> peridot: I wouldn't recommend letting you fileserver open to the internet, better to have a firewall/vpn
[11:30] <javaJake> kodat: That... uh... is ba
[11:30] <FRET> hey all
[11:30] <javaJake> bad*
[11:30] <ianmacgregor> pbwells: Sorry about that, tab completion bit me
[11:30] <javaJake> kodat: Waitamoment...
[11:30] <kodat> javaJake, lol doh >.<
[11:30] <Daviey> OmniD, Nooooo
[11:30] <dabaR> marcin_ant: they probably use both modules.
[11:30] <peridot> jlmb: do you have to route all your traffic through it when the VPN link is up, or can it figure out which packets need to go through the VPN
[11:30] <LjL> OmniD: .tar.gz file (also known as "tarball") is an archive format - how to "install" whatever is contained in it depends, well, on the contents
[11:30] <marcin_ant> dabaR: ahci supports ncq and other nice toys, while ata_piix is older one and doesn't support ncq
[11:30] <dabaR> marcin_ant: that is just a guess though, I have no idea.
[11:30] <pir4> javaJake fine... that doesnt mean a lot i think
[11:30] <OmniD> Yeah I figured
[11:30] <kodat> javaJake, well i mean..its recognized on ubuntu..so its gotta work or somethin..i have ndis with its driver too
[11:30] <OmniD> So I gotta extract it somewhere
[11:30] <peridot> jlmb: as it stands, all that's open is an ssh port
[11:30] <OmniD> I'd rather use the GUI for that
[11:30] <Daviey> tar -xvzf myfile.tar.gz
[11:30] <OmniD> So I'm going to do that
[11:30] <javaJake> pir4: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=129672&highlight=Pegasus+II
[11:31] <Daviey> OmniD, to untar: tar -xvzf myfile.tar.gz
[11:31] <marcin_ant> dabaR: I got two sata controllers onboard - intel ich8 and jmicron...
[11:31] <LjL> OmniD: the "make install" you mentioned is part of compiling. and yes, a .tgz often contains source code to compile, but that's a separate issue
[11:31] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell OmniD about compile
[11:31] <OmniD> Daviey, or just right click on the file and extract to...
[11:31] <jlmb> peridot: No, only the traffic destined to my home network goes through the vpn
[11:31] <mikeconcepts> anybody who can please advise where to put pci=noacpi and acpi=off in this file http://pastebin.ca/226841
[11:31] <DanSchnell> LjL, are you still here?
[11:31] <mcrandello> mikeconcepts, http://pastebin.ca/226848 towards the bottom there, no need to do anything with the memtest one
[11:31] <Daviey> OmniD, or that
[11:31] <javaJake> pir4: Try the pagesus driver, or whatever it is
[11:31] <dabaR> marcin_ant: google a little with those models, to see what modules they use in linux is best advice I can come up with
[11:31] <DenisKa>
[11:31] <LjL> OmniD, you can use the GUI for extracting, but i'm afraid you'll have to use the command line to compile, if it's source code
[11:31] <DenisKa>      ?
[11:31] <LjL> DanSchnell: yes
[11:31] <OmniD> I'd prefer some of you explain in such a manner to use the GUI more.
[11:31] <javaJake> DenisKa: English, please. :D
[11:31] <Daviey> OmniD, Now read the INSTALL file.  It might want you to run a configure script
[11:31] <jlmb> peridot: with only the ssh port you are able to mount the remote partion via sshfs you said right? (just checking...never tried sshfs myself)
[11:31] <OmniD> A lot more people are going to come in not wanting to mess with a command line
[11:32] <LjL> DenisKa: we don't understand your encoding. do you speak english?
[11:32] <DanSchnell> LjL, I'm in the console right now.
[11:32] <mcrandello> mikeconcepts, look at the kernel lines there
[11:32] <__osh__> jrib: Hmm, that link shows everything but what I need. :-/
[11:32] <DenisKa> DenisKa: i can not spaek english..i am russian
[11:32] <javaJake> __osh__: HEY! Osh!
[11:32] <__osh__> jrib: thanks anyway. Perhaps some man gdb will help.
[11:32] <LjL> !ru | DenisKa
[11:32] <ubotu> DenisKa: Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[11:32] <DenisKa> javaJake: i am russian
[11:32] <javaJake> __osh__: oh... wait... nvm
[11:32] <mikeconcepts> mcrandello, looking and sent it to my friend
[11:32] <Daviey> OmniD, to install from source, you really need a console.  packages are different
[11:32] <javaJake> DenisKa: OK... hold on a sec...
[11:32] <peridot> jlmb: sshfs makes available a directory tree; all the server needs is an sftp server (which is standard for ssh servers)
[11:32] <LjL> DanSchnell, i just did...
[11:32] <KGnome> my xubuntu installation is stuck at configuring language-pack-en-base, any help
[11:32] <jlmb> *.mov sound works but video is corrupted. Which codecs do I need to install? (I installed all the codecs for restricted formats already)
[11:32] <Madeye> anyone experiencing trouble with firefox or Mozilla browser on Edgy ?
[11:32] <pazemlsqdfmoj> im trying to hook up my pda, but i get a RAPI error
[11:32] <javaJake> DenisKa: Language?
[11:33] <jrib> __osh__: well for a stacktrace, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Strace, for a backtrace in gdb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace
[11:33] <aMohammed> hey guys , Can I install Edgy using netboot installation method , here :
[11:33] <dabaR> !ru
[11:33] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[11:33] <__osh__> javaJake: We spoke yesterday I think. Am I still not the osh you were looking for.
[11:33] <aMohammed> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[11:33] <DenisKa> ubotu: tam vse mol4at
[11:33] <javaJake> __osh__: I uh know. I actually am looking for khermans_
[11:33] <LjL> DenisKa, Ubotu is a robot
[11:33] <DenisKa> javaJake: russian
[11:33] <javaJake> LOL!
[11:33] <javaJake> OK
[11:33] <javaJake> Yea...
[11:33] <jlmb> peridot: but, am I able to play the files remotly or does it download them first?
[11:33] <javaJake> DenisKa: Go here: #ubuntu-ru
[11:34] <pir4> javaJake : that post is not even my problem
[11:34] <viator> is there a way i can use grep tp grab url's out of html
[11:34] <__osh__> jrib: Hmm, looking good so far. Thank's again. =)
[11:34] <KGnome> my xubuntu installation is stuck at configuring language-pack-en-base, any suggestions????
[11:34] <javaJake> pir4: Well, it's got some information you can pull out. FOr instance, are you using the same drivers as he is?
[11:34] <viator> ?
[11:34] <DenisKa> javaJake:   ..
[11:34] <jrib> __osh__: though there is an online manual on gdb if you really want to understand how things work, http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/documentation/
[11:34] <pir4> javaJake but the problem is very different
[11:34] <cps1966> javaJake:  did it work for you the java5-bin i mean i have dual xeon with ht maybe the difference
[11:34] <tonyyarusso> viator: cat somefile.html | grep http
[11:34] <DenisKa> javaJake: all are quiet there..
[11:34] <jlmb> viator: yes
[11:34] <peridot> jlmb: it has a smart enough buffering setup that you can (say) watch videos stored on the remote machine (without needing enough local space to store the video, and without waiting for it to download before starting)
[11:34] <javaJake> cps1966: Actually, it's almost done...
[11:34] <LjL> viator: grep "http://[^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=:space:] +" filename.html, on top of my head
[11:34] <__osh__> jrib: Right. I'll have a look at that too.
[11:35] <loki505> is there any good reliable p2p filesharing networks that is easy to install from the internet
[11:35] <LjL> viator: ah nevermind that, my IRC client does strange substitutions
[11:35] <ianmacgregor> DenisKa: If you ask your question in English, someone may be able to help you here
[11:35] <javaJake> cps1966: Yes, it did
[11:35] <jrib> __osh__: great, gl!
[11:35] <jlmb> peridot: Nice, I'll check it. What's the problem with it then?
[11:35] <user-land> yes, Madeye, what is your problem ?
[11:35] <LjL> viator: grep "http://[^[[:space:] ] ] +" filename.html, i meant to say
[11:35] <mike1o> anybody here printed on xerox workcentre pro 412?
[11:35] <kodat> javaJake, lol ur helping like 100 people your an animal
[11:35] <Madeye> user-land, it keep crashing
[11:35] <javaJake> kodat: yes, sorry, almost to you
[11:35] <cps1966> javaJake:  can i do something to force it
[11:35] <user-land> when ?
[11:35] <kodat> javaJake, take ur time im in no rush
[11:35] <OmniD> is a .pl file an installation file?
[11:35] <javaJake> cps1966: Yes, you should be able to...
[11:35] <DanSchnell> LjL, That still didn't work.  I got through the console, but I still have the problem...
[11:36] <DenisKa> javaJake: how many are costed by UBUNTU under the order in RUSSIA???
[11:36] <peridot> well, it's a user-based setup, so I have to either set up my laptop to be able to automatically log into the user account on my fileserver, or mount it by hand every time the SSH link goes down
[11:36] <javaJake> DenisKa: OK, well, this is an English only channel. Sorry.
[11:36] <jlmb> LjL: that was a quick  response...nice regex
[11:36] <ianmacgregor> OmniD: Probably a perl script
[11:36] <moo^min> hello!
[11:36] <pir4> LOL
[11:36] <OmniD> it's called install.pl
[11:36] <monokrome> ty :)
[11:36] <OmniD> and seems to install my program
[11:36] <pir4> DenisKa funny
[11:36] <DenisKa> how many are costed by UBUNTU under the order in rossyyu???
[11:36] <moo^min> with beryl how do I get rid of the shimmering menus they make me feel a bit ill
[11:36] <DenisKa> how many are costed by UBUNTU under the order in rossyyu???
[11:36] <DenisKa> how many are costed by UBUNTU under the order in rossyyu???
[11:36] <DenisKa> how many are costed by UBUNTU under the order in rossyyu???
[11:36] <DenisKa> how many are costed by UBUNTU under the order in rossyyu???
[11:36] <mcrandello> OmniD, try "perl isntall.pl"
[11:36] <ianmacgregor> OmniD: Sounds like a perl script that install things
[11:36] <mcrandello> DenisKa, 13 give or take
[11:36] <marcin_ant> dabaR: thanks for help I just found some usefull information in hal-device-manager
[11:37] <LjL> jlmb: wrong, though, i believe
[11:37] <javaJake> kodat: Have you considered NDisWrapper?
[11:37] <jrib> marcin_ant: wait, you understood that?
[11:37] <dabaR> marcin_ant: welcome
[11:37] <jrib> bah
[11:37] <kodat> javaJake, i have it, and have the driver installed too
[11:37] <javaJake> DenisKa: I don't get what you mean
[11:37] <jrib> marcin_ant: ignore me
[11:37] <javaJake> kodat: OK
[11:37] <noldon> hi i have a problem
[11:37] <prower> Of all the things to not work in 6.10, I would have hoped the screensavers would be fine ;>
[11:37] <javaJake> kodat: What does ndiswrapper -l say?
[11:37] <noldon> i cant burn dvds in ubuntu
[11:37] <peridot> jlmb: I think I would be content if (say) I had context menu entries for the mount point allowing me to mount and unmount it
[11:37] <jlmb> LjL: lol, I thought you were a regex bot or something :P
[11:37] <frantic> prower
[11:37] <Garcher> hey guys how come theres no usplash in 6.10???!!!
[11:37] <Garcher> hey guys how come theres no usplash in 6.10???!!!
[11:37] <javaJake> noldon: A problem? What a shocker. :D
[11:38] <javaJake> Garcher: There is
[11:38] <user-land> when, madeye ?
[11:38] <frantic> are you sure your 3D acceleration is working?
[11:38] <jrib> Garcher: there is
[11:38] <javaJake> Garcher: But your system probably can't display it
[11:38] <Daviey> Garcher, there is!
[11:38] <marcin_ant> dabaR: and now I know that my hdd which is connected to ich8 controller with ata_piix driver while jmicron controller uses ahci driver...
[11:38] <Garcher> ....
[11:38] <tonyyarusso> Garcher: There is, but there's been some trouble with upgrades.
[11:38] <peridot> jlmb: I can probably hack up some kind of solution, but surely I'm not the only user who wants this?
[11:38] <flo-_-> can someone recomend a good program to recordtv other then mythtv?
[11:38] <frantic> glxinfo | grep direct
[11:38] <dabaR> marcin_ant: cool
[11:38] <user-land> noldon, try k3b
[11:38] <frantic> do you see direct rendering: yes
[11:38] <javaJake> Garcher: A new install is ALWAYS the best way to go
[11:38] <tonyyarusso> Garcher: Make sure you have "splash" on your kernel line in the grub menu file.
[11:38] <prower> frantic: As far as I know, the GL previews of the screensavers are fine...glxgears seems to be giving me usual numbers
[11:38] <javaJake> Garcher: Upgrading is super buggy
[11:38] <kodat> javaJake, bcmwl5  driver present
[11:38] <cps1966> !paste
[11:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:38] <pir4> javaJake i told you already, maybe you do know why i cant get an ip adress from my network :[
[11:38] <javaJake> kodat: OK
[11:38] <Garcher> yeah im DLing an iSO
[11:38] <jlmb> peridot: Indeed you are not but others, like me, opted for the vpn solution.
[11:39] <noldon> it looks like its burning but it dosnt! when its done burning its nothing on the dvd
[11:39] <prower> Direct Rendering - Yes
[11:39] <Madeye> user-land, randomly http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/226865
[11:39] <marcin_ant> dabaR: cool that I got this info but it sucks that my machine uses this driver - need to reboot and change bios settings
[11:39] <javaJake> pir4: Are you using the pegasus driver?
[11:39] <EvilGuru> I have found a bug in edgys printing code, when a pdf file that contains transparency is printed (such as to a ps file) all those regions turn black
[11:39] <frantic> weird
[11:39] <jlmb> peridot: a network encrypted fs would be awesome.
[11:39] <marcin_ant> dabaR: thanks again
[11:39] <frantic> ummmmmmm
[11:39] <dabaR> yup
[11:39] <Orta> Hello
[11:39] <user-land> madeye, try disabling all extensions.
[11:39] <Garcher> have you read this?
[11:39] <Garcher> http://element14.wordpress.com/2006/10/27/ubuntu-edgy-upgrades-a-disaster-for-many/
[11:39] <Garcher> ;/
[11:39] <pir4> javaJake i have no other option
[11:39] <prower> frantic: Yeah, not sure what's going on either :/ Stupid bug too, 6.10 is a great release
[11:39] <noldon> user-land iam using k3b
[11:39] <Garcher> :\
[11:39] <Orta> I have two questions
[11:40] <user-land> try without k3b, noldon.
[11:40] <peridot> jlmb: sshfs is (could be) like Nautilus' ssh:// support, only not limited to gnome-VFS software
[11:40] <DanSchnell> Does anyone else have any ideas to why my screen gets gray/green/purple pinstripes on it
[11:40] <frantic> I've been less than enthused with 6.10 so far, but i'm sure they'll work things out
[11:40] <cps1966> javaJake:  look here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28945/
[11:40] <Orta> I just installed 6.06
[11:40] <frantic> do you have ati or nvidia?
[11:40] <tonyyarusso> EvilGuru: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReportingBugs
[11:40] <gerhard> ati onbard frantic
[11:40] <LjL> viator jlmb:  grep -o "http://[^[:space:] ] *"  filename.html <-- this one should hopefully work
[11:40] <noldon> i have done that to
[11:41] <Orta> and I want to get my soundcard to work
[11:41] <kodat> soundcard > orta
[11:41] <LjL> DanSchnell: wait, i forgot to tell you something i think
[11:41] <DanSchnell> ...
[11:41] <Madeye> user-land, actually I did not install any extension yet anyway, I have disabled talkback and dom inspector and getting same result
[11:41] <user-land> also try without plugins, madeye.
[11:41] <jlmb> peridot: I have to try it. Right now, I'm trying to solve one of this stupid issues with codecs.
[11:41] <kodat> hmm didnt w ork, guess i dont remember the command
[11:41] <kodat> haha
[11:41] <prower> frantic: Oh yeah, I'm sure they'll roll it out eventually...nVidia
[11:41] <dcordes> how can i close an xserver?
[11:41] <pir4> javaJake i am usin that driver, thats my only option for my device
[11:41] <Garcher> i want my upslash :((
[11:41] <LjL> DanSchnell: after you change the driver to "vesa" using "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg",  you should then run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" to reload the graphical interface, and see if it then works
[11:41] <user-land> madeye, i think firefox 2 is buggy.
[11:41] <howieson26> !de
[11:41] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:42] <Madeye> user-land, dude, this is fresh install of Edgy and FF, no plugins no extensions and nothing at all
[11:42] <frantic> Well prower, your issues are weird
[11:42] <LjL> !traffic
[11:42] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[11:42] <dcordes> like i opened X :3 and X:4
[11:42] <jlmb> peridot: Is such a pain, forum surfing for a solution for this sort of things
[11:42] <Orta> It is a Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2ZS notebook
[11:42] <Madeye> user-land, no, I have been using it on dapper since it's beta time, it was just fine
[11:42] <noldon> anyone knows how to solve this problem
[11:42] <Madeye> user-land, but seems like edgy has some random bugs
[11:42] <user-land> madeye, my firefox crashes when opening pages with plugins mainly.
[11:42] <DanSchnell> LjL, will that take me out of the console/setup?
[11:42] <javaJake> pir4: Hum... very strange. Unfortunately I cannot help you. Try Googling around. If no one has solved it yet, then post some threads on different forums
[11:42] <user-land> i see, madeye.
[11:42] <javaJake> kodat: I have to go
[11:43] <javaJake> kodat: Sorry...
[11:43] <kodat> javaJake, lol no biggie
[11:43] <LjL> DanSchnell: if it works... yeah, it will load the GUI
[11:43] <kodat> lol i installed a plugin for firefox..and now it wont open >.<
[11:43] <peridot> jlmb: part of the problem is that I'm often running over an insecure network at home, so I'd rather not even trust my home network links
[11:43] <frutiger> Long installation question.
[11:43] <Madeye> user-land, same happening with Mozilla-browser,
[11:43] <javaJake> kodat: There are many broadcom posts on the forums... try searching arond
[11:43] <Madeye> will try ff 1.5 now
[11:43] <LjL> DanSchnell: but only after you've finished doing the dpkg-reconfigure thing and set VESA
[11:43] <frutiger> My box (a shuttle) has onboard CF and SD card readers.
[11:43] <levander> What are the differences in running 64 bit as far as the user is concerned?  Are all the applications available to the 32 bit distro available to the 64 bit distro?  Is 64 bit supposed to be faster?
[11:43] <__osh__> user-land: I'm trying to do a backtrace of FF2 right now. Buggy for me too. :-/
[11:43] <user-land> madeye, seamonkey ?
[11:43] <frutiger> During install, the card readers are sda and sdb, making the HD sdc.
[11:43] <levander> Has anyone seen a good review of 64 bit Ubuntu and have a link to share?
[11:43] <Madeye> user-land, yeah
[11:44] <Garcher> hey guys where do i find the torrents????
[11:44] <frutiger> On reboot, the HD becomes sda, screwing up a lot of things.
[11:44] <__osh__> levander: It can adress more memory. Other than that I don't know of any difference.
[11:44] <DanSchnell> LjL, do i have to finish the setup? or can I do that command line right after i set vesa?
[11:44] <dekela> dabaR: whats up?
[11:44] <user-land> i'm sorry, __osh__.
[11:44] <tonyyarusso> !torrents | Garcher
[11:44] <ubotu> Garcher: Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Edgy: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/
[11:44] <kodat> !ubuntu community
[11:44] <frutiger> Anyway to avoid the renaming of deivces during install and after reboot?
[11:44] <levander> __osh__: are all the applications available to 64 bit that are available to 32 bit?  I thought I remember awhile back they weren't.
[11:44] <jlmb> peridot: ohhh, I highly recommend getting or configuring a home nat/router/firewall. You'll feel so much better.
[11:44] <dabaR> dekela good, what are you again fixing? you installed edgy and windows boots, was it?
[11:44] <prower> Is Eft considered a "stable" release, or in transition to a stable one?
[11:44] <dekela> dabaR: I am in the live CD
[11:44] <Dr_willis> frutiger,  renaming?
[11:44] <loki505> can somebody please help me
[11:45] <loki505> i want to transfer new music on my psp
[11:45] <dekela> dabaR: Yes
[11:45] <Garcher> thanks
[11:45] <LjL> DanSchnell: no, you need to go through the whole setup thing
[11:45] <__osh__> levander: probably not. last time I  tried it, it was a pain. Perhaps it's better now.
[11:45] <peridot> jlmb: I do have one; I've had headaches with encrypted wireless so I go with application-level encryption instead
[11:45] <frutiger> Dr Willis, during the install my HD is sdc, but after reboot it becomes sda.
[11:45] <LjL> DanSchnell: but you really can just keep pressing Enter, mostly
[11:45] <levander> prower: it's a stable release, although probably in some marginal ways not as stable, since long term support hasn't been applied to it
[11:45] <mikeconcepts> mcrandello, friend is going to copy this file to a floppy, boot ubuntu and try to get this file in there from text mode, he is accessing the ubuntu drive from windows using explore2fs-1.08beta9.exe
[11:45] <loki505> hello can someone HELP me
[11:45] <dekela> dabaR: This is what I get from Grub Install : Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[11:45] <loki505> please
[11:45] <levander> prower: i think it contains some applications that are fairly new, stuff like that that made them not give it LTS (long term support)
[11:45] <tonyyarusso> prower: Considered stable.  Whether it is is your call ;)  However, it is not Long Term Supported like Dapper.
[11:45] <loki505> PLEASE
[11:45] <prower> levander: Yeah, that makes sense...so far I haven't had any problems save for the screensavers not working
[11:46] <loki505> my psp needs new music
[11:46] <dabaR> dekela: sudo fdisk -l > paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:46] <loki505> playstation portable
[11:46] <Garcher> man maybe i shouldnt have upgraded to edgy... ;_;
[11:46] <jlmb> peridot: Wait....can't you set up a vpn server then?
[11:46] <MtJB> i am having trubble getting aiglx working
[11:46] <factorx_> Hi ppl, I just installed Edgy and my screen (autodetected to 1024x768 but it's a native 1280x800...) shows weird stuff if I switch to my native screen resolution. What's wrong there?
[11:46] <frutiger> Can I tell the install during boot to ignore my SD/CF card readers or name the HD as sda?
[11:46] <DanSchnell> LjL: I tried to finish the set up, but I think it froze...
[11:46] <jrattner> Question: How do i change the default mail reader for Mail-notifications?
[11:46] <noldon> ok thank u anyway
[11:46] <levander> tonyyarusso: are there a lot of problems with Edgy?  What you mean "you're call"?
[11:46] <LjL> DanSchnell: when?
[11:46] <loki505> 0
[11:46] <loki505> 00
[11:46] <loki505> 00
[11:46] <loki505> 0
[11:46] <loki505> 0
[11:46] <loki505> 0
[11:46] <tonyyarusso> loki505: Try to ask your question succinctly on one line for the best chance of someone being able to answer you.
[11:46] <loki505> 000
[11:46] <loki505> 0
[11:46] <Cromag> stop
[11:46] <DanSchnell> factorx: I think your having the same problem as me.
[11:46] <gnomefreak> loki505: stop that
[11:47] <OmniD> This is crap
[11:47] <dekela> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28946/
[11:47] <OmniD> I got an error when it was installing
[11:47] <jlmb> *.mov sound works but video is corrupted. Which codecs do I need to install? (I installed all the codecs for restricted formats already)
[11:47] <DanSchnell> LjL: one of the set up screens asking which bit graphics display i wanted
[11:47] <peridot> jlmb: I could, I think, (I think it's even the same linksys you have) but I haven't wanted to go rooting around in its guts
[11:47] <Daviey> OmniD, what error?
[11:47] <OmniD> and now it won't run the install again because it thinks it's installed all the way
[11:47] <OmniD> lemme find it
[11:47] <MtJB> edgy is the most problematic ubuntu install of all time
[11:47] <mikeconcepts> mcrandello, perhaps there is a better program in windows that permits editing ext2 files directly rather than just read
[11:47] <Daviey> OmniD, try 'make clean'
[11:47] <levander> factorx_: apparently, X didn't get configured correctly for 1024 on your system, you can try rerunning "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", if doing that a 2nd time doesn't work, you can try it manually if you want
[11:47] <tonyyarusso> levander: There have been a number of people posting problems, although I don't know much about what they are.  Personally, I've been using it since September with no issues, so I'm _guessing_ they're mostly people that didn't follow the upgrade instructions, but I don't know.
[11:47] <lakcaj> OmniD, apt-get install --reinstall <packagename>
[11:47] <peridot> jlmb: *.mov is a container format, could have all kinds of different kinds of video inside
[11:48] <Potato333> ---------Hey everyone! Edgy Edgy Edgy! =)    ------------- I am looking for a openSource or FreeWare program that is just like the commercial software "ACT!" .  Perhaps evolution?
[11:49] <jlmb> peridot: It's a ruby on rails video. Can you check if it works for you? http://www.rubyonrails.org/screencasts "creating a weblog"
[11:49] <OmniD> lakcaj, Daviey assumed
[11:49] <tonyyarusso> levander: Which is what Dapper's for of course.  I'm sticking with Dapper for my server for the time being, but am fine with Edgy for my lappy.
[11:49] <Potato333> kalikiana: ACT! Contact and Customer Relationship Management Software
[11:49] <Daviey> OmniD, so how was it installed?!!?
[11:49] <LjL> !language | levander
[11:49] <ubotu> levander: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:49] <dekela> dabaR: and..
[11:49] <user-land> me too. so why, mtjb ?
[11:49] <OmniD> Daviey, Via a perl script included with the program I just said that
[11:49] <levander> tonyyarusso: i'm surprised there are that many problems with it, have never seen a quirky release from ubuntu
[11:49] <ryanakca> can you some how make imagemagick grab PrintScreen's screenshot and stick it into a file?
[11:49] <levander> LjL: chill out
[11:50] <MtJB> user-land:  upgrade did not work, missing hardware driver, and x would not start
[11:50] <frutiger> Is there a webpage detailing all the special boot parameters you can pass to the Ubuntu install?
[11:50] <jlmb> peridot: check out the dd-wrt firmware, it's awesome man....you won't regret it. Right now, that little router does DNS cache, DHCP server, WPA2, VPN, and local DNS server.
[11:50] <user-land> that's the upgrade, mtjb. what about the install ?
[11:50] <dabaR> dekela: root (hd1,4)
[11:50] <LjL> levander, i'm calm, but in this channel the rule is to keep to a "nice" language
[11:50] <levander> tonyyarusso: has Canonical made a statement or anything about the issues? Are they that bad.
[11:50] <mcrandello> mikeconcepts, there is an exd2/3 fs driver for winnt/2000/xp but the easiest way to change it would probably be to open it up like so: "sudo pico /boot/grub/menu.lst" then use <ctrl>+X to close it
[11:50] <MtJB> user-land:  no problems with install, other than i can't get aiglx working
[11:50] <levander> LjL: who made you hall monitor?
[11:50] <dekela> dabaR: done..
[11:51] <jrattner> Question: Is there any advantage to using limewire over frostwire?
[11:51] <jrattner> ?
[11:51] <dabaR> dekela setup (hd1)
[11:51] <mcrandello> mikeconcepts, right from inside linux I mean, if it's at all possible
[11:51] <|thunder> jrattner; no
[11:51] <Web-kanotix373> bye!  any italian please? i habe question about my printer...
[11:51] <LjL> levander: do i need to be "hall monitor" to remind you of the guidelines for this channel?
[11:51] <user-land> is that acceleration, mtjb ?
[11:51] <LjL> !it | Web-kanotix373
[11:51] <ubotu> Web-kanotix373: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:51] <jrattner> |thunder, so theres no difference at all?
[11:51] <DanSchnell> LjL, Setup just froze on "desired default color depth in bits: "
[11:51] <dabaR> dekela: quit
[11:51] <ryanakca> !it
[11:51] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:52] <dabaR> dekela: reboot, I am not 100% it will work.
[11:52] <LjL> DanSchnell: try hitting Tab, then Enter... see if that helps
[11:52] <tonyyarusso> levander: Probably in part due to the compressed release cycle combined with the reworking of core components.  In fact, the naming announcement in April said that it was expected that Edgy would have some problems, but that was the cost of trying to do some new things.  So in short, people were warned.  I don't think it's overly bad, just the "couple days after release bugs blues"
[11:52] <MtJB> user-land:  at our install fest this morning, i heard rumors that many people were crashing at boot time with the upgrade
[11:52] <ryanakca> oops, LjL, you beat me too it :)
[11:52] <levander> LjL: Yes.  That is definition of hall monitor.  Running around telling everybody what the rules are.
[11:52] <|thunder> jrattner; nor teally. frostwire is a limewire clone. looks just like. works great too. super fast
[11:52] <DanSchnell> LjL, my internal speaker beeps at me
[11:52] <MtJB> user-land:  yes, aiglx is the accelerated eye-candy which makes geeks drool
[11:52] <mikeconcepts> mcrandello, thanks - great help!
[11:52] <user-land> yes, mtjb, important to know.
[11:52] <dekela> dabaR: Ok.. Lets see...
[11:52] <Potato333> ----ACT! is a commercial Contact and Customer Relationship Management Software. ----Is there a OpenSource or FreeWare application similar to ACT?
[11:52] <dekela> dabaR: Oh and thankls
[11:52] <Lard-O-Lad> i've just switched from dapper to edgy, and there are so many things wrong... Is there some update or package that I am missing? (for instance, the alt-ctrl combos only work occasionally)
[11:52] <dabaR> dekela: thank after it works
[11:52] <ryanakca> can you some how make imagemagick grab PrintScreen's screenshot and stick it into a file?
[11:52] <Daviey> Ahhhh!!! i wish i could go back to dapper!
[11:53] <user-land> if canonical had public interest in mind, they would prominently and actively warn about the problems.
[11:53] <ryanakca> Lard-O-Lad: try going "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop", make sure everything is there
[11:53] <Orta> How do I set up my soundcard (Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2ZS notebook)?
[11:53] <|thunder> ryanakca; printscreen should put a png on your desktop
[11:53] <MtJB> user-land:  i am concerned that they shipped before they should have
[11:53] <mcrandello> quick general linux question anyone know how to find out what a module's paramaters are? I forgot the exact command and man is not being my freind atm
[11:54] <user-land> mtjb, the problems run deeper then that.
[11:54] <Potato333> dabaR that happens with every release =)
[11:54] <jrib> ryanakca: did you try the import command?
[11:54] <peridot> jlmb: oh brilliant. That video crashes all of gxine, totem-gstreamer and vlc
[11:54] <Lard-O-Lad> ryanakca: -desktop is ok, "newest version", ... *sigh* i think im going to downgrade back to dapper...
[11:54] <Berdine> Well, that didn't work :(
[11:54] <dabaR> Potato333: ya
[11:54] <hilz> Hi people! I have ubuntu 6.06, how do i upgrade to 6.10 ? if i do the" system > administration > update manager" it says that the system is up to date. So how do i upgrade ?
[11:54] <mwe> dabaR: I guess we don't see most happy people in here
[11:54] <MtJB> user-land:  the thing i love most about edgy is that it includes flightgear 9.10  :)
[11:54] <factorx_> levander, it works, my screen resolution is fine now. thank you
[11:54] <jrib> !upgrade > hilz
[11:54] <jlmb> peridot: wow, video from hell.
[11:54] <user-land> ah, nice, mtjb.
[11:54] <levander> factorx_: what, you ran "dpkg-reconfigure"?
[11:55] <Berdine> tonyyarusso, Hey~ No luck... I guess it's more screwed up than I thought :(
[11:55] <frutiger> Can I tell the install during boot to ignore my SD/CF card readers or name the HD as sda (the install thinks it's sdc)?
[11:55] <factorx_> levander, yes.
[11:55] <Potato333> mwe: i am just gonna wait 3 months like i did for dapper =D
[11:55] <LjL> DanSchnell, it's very weird that this command freezes... what about the arrow key? do they allow you to select 8/16/24 bit?
[11:55] <levander> factorx_: good to hear
[11:55] <mcrandello> hilz, first back up everything in home, then download and install from an ISO
[11:55] <tonyyarusso> Berdine: Icky
[11:55] <Daviey> how can i downgrade!??!
[11:55] <apokryphos> Daviey: you can't
[11:55] <LjL> !downgrade | Daviey
[11:55] <ubotu> Daviey: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[11:55] <mikeconcepts> mcrandello, he is pretty insistent it will be necessary to edit this file from windows, as the time he gets in ubuntu is quite short before power management causes it to sleep, and noting you can do after to wake it up
[11:55] <mcrandello> Daviey, dirst back up everythign in home then install from the iso
[11:55] <Lard-O-Lad> Potato333: is that the key, waiting for all the bugs to be fixed?
[11:55] <dagi3d> hi, does anyone know if there is a recent bug with the gtk applications in the edgy version? the thing is that now the menu bars of my applications appear on the top of the screen instead of being inside of the application window: http://dagi3d.net/temp/gtk-bug.png
[11:55] <Lynoure> Daviey: but if you did backups, you can restore or reinstall and restore
[11:55] <DanSchnell> LjL, nope, i'm just stuck on 24 bit
[11:56] <Berdine> tonyyarusso, The edgy install is broken because it didn't finish installing... I guess it's missing whatever happens after it installs all the software. :3
[11:56] <househead> hey all
[11:56] <Potato333> Lard-O-Lad: yes for me, since i am not good enough with linux "YET" to fix bugs and stuff.
[11:56] <mcrandello> mikeconcepts, there's a way to put that in temporarily in grub when you first boot up
[11:56] <mwe> Potato333: probably a fine idea unless you for some reason really need the new versions of things right a way
[11:56] <KGnome> HOW do i install winelib????
[11:56] <househead> any edgy users here?
[11:56] <mcrandello> mikeconcepts, forget which key you have to hit though
[11:56] <Daviey> Lynoure, trouble is i have alot installed MySQL, mythtv-backend, Torrentflux, monodevelop, Asterisk......  It'all take all week to get the settings right
[11:56] <ianmacgregor> dagi3d: I'd actually love that kind of thing in gnome
[11:56] <LjL> DanSchnell: ok, please reboot one more time, and we'll try something else
[11:56] <apokryphos> !anyone
[11:56] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:56] <Potato333> mwe: all i need is the new version of XFCE4 that has that handy dandy recycle bin =)
[11:56] <mcrandello> Daviey, also back up everything in /etc
[11:56] <tonyyarusso> Berdine: Might try reinstalling with the !alternate CD.
[11:57] <dagi3d> it's 'feature' ?
[11:57] <hilz> jrib: what do you mean?!
[11:57] <LjL> DanSchnell: hold on a bit though, i have to be away for a split minute
[11:57] <mikeconcepts> mcrandello, but we are very sure you have the answer to this problem, this key isn't escape?
[11:57] <DanSchnell> Is there a command  that i can use to set driver as vesa without <sudo dpkg-configure xserver-xorg> ?
[11:57] <jrib> hilz: check your private messages from ubotu
[11:57] <peridot> jlmb: thanks for the advice, I've got to run, sorry I don't have much useful to say about your video woes (they might talk about what codec they use...)
[11:57] <mcrandello> mikeconcepts, perhaps
[11:57] <dagi3d> it looks a lot like macos applications, dont they?
[11:57] <mcrandello> mikeconcepts, hang on a sec
[11:57] <Potato333> mwe: but i just wont DEL anythiong untill XFCE4 is stable enough for me to upgrade along with the ubuntu core as a whole
[11:57] <Berdine> tonyyarusso, I was already using the alternate CD because the normal one didn't work :(
[11:57] <ianmacgregor> dagi3d: How did you get the Bluecurve Metacity theme?
[11:57] <Garcher> hey if i put more workspaces can aiglx make another figure rather than a cube???
[11:57] <DanSchnell> little offtopic: exactly how long is a split minute?
[11:57] <jlmb> peridot: nice talking to. I'm leaving too.
[11:57] <mwe> Potato333: mm
[11:57] <puff> Hi, I upgradded hoary->breezy->dapper, do I need to re-do setting up the architecture-specific kernel?
[11:58] <jlmb> peridot: *to you
[11:58] <househead> the generic kernel in edgy wont load for me, stalls on
[11:58] <hilz> jrib: oh... sorry i closed that window! can you do it again!?
[11:58] <Lynoure> Daviey: you should really back up all that you will be sad about losing, /etc and stuff do not take that much space
[11:58] <kalikiana> puff: yep, you must
[11:58] <jrib> !upgrade > hilz
[11:58] <househead> "waiting for root filesystem"
[11:58] <levander> puff: not if you didn't change the hardware under the kernel you don't
[11:58] <Daviey> Lynoure, i think i will
[11:58] <Lard-O-Lad> what is in the DVD release of Ubuntu that isnt in the CD release?
[11:58] <dagi3d> ianmacgregor: theres is a deb package of it. just google a liitle bit
[11:58] <tonyyarusso> Berdine: Uh oh.  Maybe hit up the mailing list with your hardware descriptions, if you're sure you burned the disk right.
[11:58] <apokryphos> Lard-O-Lad: see the FAQ
[11:58] <kalikiana> levander: but with me a generic kernel is now installed :/
[11:58] <ianmacgregor> dagi3d: Thanks
[11:58] <mwe> Potato333: or maybe you can just find a .deb for dapper or compile it yourself
[11:59] <levander> Lard-O-Lad: just more packages that can all be downloaded from the online repositories
[11:59] <LjL> levander, you are being banned for insulting in private messages.
[11:59] <Berdine> tonyyarusso, I don't think I must have burned the normal one correctly... When I tried to check it for errors it froze. Heh.
[11:59] <tonyyarusso> Ah, not good
[11:59] <clop> hi, i just upgraded from ubuntu 6.06 to 6.10, and now when i start gnome, it says, "error starting gnome settings daemon" and says something about dbus-launch... any idea what to do?
[11:59] <wastrel> ubunto
[11:59] <Lard-O-Lad> apokryphos,levander: ty
[11:59] <Potato333> mwe: would XFCE4 (or any program) run faster and cleaner if i compiled a software from SOURCE rather then from a .deb?
[11:59] <Tim90> hey guys im having problems starting mythtv,i always got the setup wizzard
[11:59] <househead> my generic 2.6.17 fails to load, "waiting for root filesystem", and whats the UUID stuff in menu.lst?
[11:59] <mcrandello> mikeconcepts, have him study this page, right under where the "linux stuff" header is there's a screenshot, add it into the kernel line there and boot up http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB_Howto_and_Trouble-shooter
[11:59] <ryanakca> jrib: import gives me a cross hair... wich isn't any good because I want to take it while I have the beryl cube at an angle...
[12:00] <mwe> Potato333: not in general
[12:00] <salim> hi, wow, again more than 1000 users!
[12:00] <Daviey> Tim90, hats because it cannot connect to the database
[12:00] <mcrandello> mikeconcepts, admittedly it's a pain in the ass
[12:00] <Potato333> mwe: can you elaborate on that answer a tad?
[12:00] <mcrandello> mikeconcepts, at least for a new user :)
[12:00] <kalikiana> potato: you *could* compile architecture-specific in theory, but that's uncommon
[12:00] <apokryphos> salim: popular channel 8), new release always brings in more people
[12:00] <Daviey> Tim90, if the database cannot connect then you will get mythtv-setup
[12:00] <mwe> Potato333: usually the guys who compile the .debs know better what they're doing than you would
[12:00] <Potato333> mwe:  =D
[12:00] <ianmacgregor> Is it actually possible to get the menu bar i the top of the desktop instead of the app window? See this: http://dagi3d.net/temp/gtk-bug.png