[20:18] <Ximal> ?
[20:18] <jeffMASTERflex> mattperry: open up nautlis, it's in the preferences
[20:18] <lixomancem> pvh_sa: thank you anyway for your help, i'll just keep on trying for a couple of days before giving up :)
[20:18] <unop> mattperry, should be in nautilus's preferences
[20:18] <Orbixx> Nautilus appears to be locked at a particular window size, not maximized.
[20:18] <caleb_> mattperry: 1) Open Nautilus (Places -> Home Folder)
[20:18] <caleb_> 2) Edit -> Preferences
[20:18] <caleb_> 3) Select Tab Behavior
[20:18] <tomd123> debasys: the excitement can be seen in ubuntu+1, so much people asking others to fix their problems lol
[20:19] <mattperry> thanks everyone
[20:19] <Seveas> !party
[20:19] <ubotu> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Hardy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseParties
[20:19] <blivori_> WHENEVER I TRY TO INSTALL SOFTWARE (ADD/REMEMOVE SOFTWARE AND SYNAPTIC) AN EROR MESSAGE BOX OPENS AND SHOWS ME THE URL OF THE REPO AND TELLS ME CONNECTIO NREFUSED.ANY HELP PLEAZORZ?
[20:19] <stefg> !CAPS
[20:19] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[20:19] <blivori_> sorry caps
[20:19] <mut80r> rofl
[20:19] <brrt> blivori: the url must be wrong
[20:19] <blivori_> brrt: no it worked this morning
[20:20] <brrt> that is odd\
[20:20] <Baby_Shambl3s> can someone tell me if my 'make check' compiled alright or if there are any issues i should be aware of - http://pastebin.ca/994926
[20:20] <blivori_> brrt: and I didn't mess and touch my repos
[20:20] <Kinetic> then its down
[20:20] <debasys> hey its April 24 here @my place ;)
[20:20] <tomd123> blivori_: did you get on any admin's nerve?
[20:20] <Kinetic> jsut change repos
[20:20] <stefg> blivori_: probably just bad timing. hardy release in the process so servers are overloaded
[20:20] <brrt> which repo do you have, it might be offline
[20:20] <Pici> debasys, Hardy will be released some time during the 24th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[20:20] <blivori_> tomd123: no ?
[20:20] <blivori_> brrt: the maltese one
[20:20] <blivori_> brrt: mt. something
[20:20] <tomd123> blivori_: well then it's probably a bad link
[20:20] <blivori_> tomd123: Its not, it was working this morning
[20:21] <brrt> mt.archive.ubuntu.com? I'm just guessing now
[20:21] <dreamer_> hey, guys. dd if=/dev/hda of=/test.txt count=1   but how do i save other sector plz? ty
[20:21] <blivori_> brrt: yeah something like that
[20:21] <Dmole> please help i'm  trying to "del/S/F/P *old.*" but the "." is ignored  yes I am forced away from ubuntu for a moment and need windows help
[20:21] <brrt> definitely online here
[20:21] <Seveas> dreamer_, you want this instead: dd if=/dev/hda of=mymbr bs=512 count=1
[20:21] <blivori_> brrt: hmzorz
[20:21] <blivori_> brrt: its not offline it says connection refused
[20:22] <brrt> that is even odder, it might have a different key
[20:22] <brrt> you should really ask the administrators of that site
[20:22] <brrt> I can't help you with that
[20:22] <gajan> i am tryin g to install the package libssl0.9.6 but it says package couldnt found
[20:22] <blivori_> brrt: W: Failed to fetch http://mt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kdebase-runtime/kde-icons-oxygen_4.0.3-0ubuntu2_all.deb
[20:22] <blivori_>   Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[20:22] <Sn1p3rWrN> hi...
[20:23] <Baby_Shambl3s> can someone tell me if my 'make check' compiled alright or if there are any issues i should be aware of - http://pastebin.ca/994926?
[20:23] <brrt> does that happen with all packages?
[20:23] <Seveas> blivori_, you configured it to use a proxy on your local machine, which is now dead
[20:23] <blivori_> brrt: yes
[20:23] <brrt> maybe seveas's idea is correct
[20:23] <Sn1p3rWrN> blalbal
[20:23] <gajan> hi sn1p3
[20:23] <Sn1p3rWrN> hi
[20:23] <Sn1p3rWrN> xD!
[20:23] <andycaass> My nx6325 lappy doesnt want to change brightness after i suspended it, how to get 100% brightness back???
[20:24] <blivori_> Seveas: I don't have proxies
[20:24] <white_eagle> I removed everything that had kde in its name, and that removed the qt libraries and now Opera looks ugly without them, so I want to reinstall them, can you tell me which packages do I need to install??
[20:24] <brrt> what is the host of mt.archive.ubuntu.com? mine is <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:24] <blivori_> Seveas: only on firefox
[20:24] <Seveas> blivori_, then don't configure synaptic to use one
[20:24] <donspaulding> what's a good way to wipe all the data from my server's hard drive without rebooting?
[20:24] <white_eagle> I need the QT libraries again
[20:24] <brrt> gotta go ow
[20:24] <blivori_> Seveas: I didnt
[20:24] <dreamer_> Seveas, hey, this is for saving mbr but is it possivle to save some other sector?
[20:24] <blivori_> brrt: I cant access that site from firefox
[20:24] <Seveas> blivori_, yes you did. If you didn't, it wouldn't try to connect :)
[20:25] <modoc> Whenever I add something to my hosts file, it gets reverted.  Is there somewhere else I should add my entries so they're not lost?
[20:25] <blivori_> Seveas: but I love you :(
[20:25] <gajan> donspaulding format it
[20:25] <Seveas> dreamer_, dd has skip and seek options, read the manpage to find out which to use when and how
[20:25] <dreamer_> Seveas, ty
[20:25] <Dimedhel> Hey there everyone.  I asked the same question a couple hours ago but I was disconnected, sorry.  I would like to know if someone knows what the "future" (being about 2.5 hours from know) download link for 8.04 will be.  The reason I ask is because I'm about to leave my office (and fast internet connection), but I would like to schedule the download so I'll have the .iso file by tomorrow...
[20:25] <Dimedhel> ...morning.  Can anyone help?  Thanks.
[20:25] <blivori_> Seveas: its set as "direct conenction to internet"
[20:25] <donspaulding> gajan: with what?
[20:26] <gajan> yup dimedhel
[20:26] <Seveas> blivori_, pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/apt.conf ant the output of the command 'env'
[20:26] <salidan> Szeva sayers!
[20:26] <donspaulding> gajan: nevermind, looks like I can just fdisk it.
[20:26] <Seveas> !hu | salidan
[20:26] <ubotu> salidan: Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál
[20:26] <doug2266778822_> how does one change his curser icons i have the one i want downloaded.
[20:26] <donspaulding> gajan: thanks.
[20:26] <blivori_> Seveas: thx I <3 you
[20:26] <salidan> thx
[20:26] <gajan> i am tryin g to install the package libssl0.9.6 but it says package couldnt found
[20:27] <sayers> hi salidan ?
[20:27] <Seveas> gajan, that's because that version is way outdated. 0.9.8 is the most recent iirc
[20:27] <salidan> yes, hi :D
[20:27] <white_eagle> anyone tell me which packages contain the qt libraries
[20:27] <andycaass> My nx6325 lappy doesnt want to change brightness after i suspended it, how to get 100% brightness back???
[20:27] <koro> i have a binary file for an application that has no installer and is not packaged, i'm moving it to my /usr/bin directory, is there a way to add it to my "Applications" menu in gnome?
[20:27] <blivori_> Seveas: I don't have an apt.conf
[20:28] <gajan> tx seavas
[20:28] <Dimedhel> thanks gajan.  Do you know the link?
[20:28] <koro> when i go to Add/remove it only allows me to choose from the repositories or from properly installed applications
[20:28] <Ximal> Kinetic : I got this error when Doing your sudo apt-get install compiz-manager beryl
[20:28] <Sn1p3rWrN> I will close
[20:28] <Seveas> blivori_, then cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ and pastebin the output
[20:28] <Seveas> blivori_, then cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/* and pastebin the output
[20:28] <Ximal> Kinetic : E: Couldn't find package compiz-manager
[20:28] <salidan> OMG, its too hight for me XD   by
[20:28] <Kinetic> i named it wrong
[20:28] <Ximal> restate it pls ?
[20:29] <Kinetic> type compiz and hit tab to complete..see what its called
[20:29] <jeffMASTERflex> koro: you can add any item you want to your menu. right click on the menu and select edit
[20:29] <koro> jeffMASTERflex: aaah awesome, thanks :)
[20:29] <arooni> i'm looking for a tool that functions like http://www.activewords.com within firefox... i.e. it can turn a few characters of text into several long paragraphs (of common text i usually type).  i do this within gmail.  is there anything for ubuntu gutsy or firefox that meets the bill?
[20:29] <andycaass> My nx6325 lappy doesnt want to change brightness after i suspended it, how to get 100% brightness back???
[20:29] <Ximal> I see compiz.real
[20:29] <Ximal> but how do I encorporate that into the sudo command ?
[20:29] <cecko> hi all, my cpu is Pentium M (centrino) shouldn't I have linux-image-386 instead of linux-image-generic?
[20:30] <Kinetic> Ximal: check pm
[20:30] <nexact> I WANT 8.04 rite now.
[20:30] <Ximal> Waiting for your pm
[20:30] <nexact> :-)
[20:30] <Pici> cecko: No, generic is the proper kernel that supports all the *86 architectures.
[20:30] <Pici> !generic | cecko
[20:30] <ubotu> cecko: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[20:30] <Pici> nexact: then wait for it in #ubuntu-release-party :)
[20:31] <cecko> Pici, thx
[20:31] <kristjans> hello. is there some kind of app that would count the time, so i can start/stop it, and it would log everything (to keep track of the time i work)
[20:31] <coolix> e
[20:31] <Kinetic> Ximal: sec
[20:31] <Ximal> ok
[20:31] <cojack> hello
[20:31] <cojack> I have one problem
[20:32] <white_eagle> I stopped an installation, so I need to unlock it to I can install applications again
[20:32] <cojack> I don't have .gnome2/gedit/plugins/ location
[20:32] <Interflop> I can't seem to get any sound out of my Line In port.  Is there any reason for this to happen?
[20:32] <cojack> where I can find it?
[20:32] <Seveas> cojack, then create it
[20:32] <cojack> Seveas: ok
[20:32] <blivori_> Seveas: http://pastebin.org/31590 thats env
[20:32] <stroyan> kristjans:  There is the 'gnotime' package.
[20:32] <Seveas> blivori_, don't bother with the others
[20:33] <Seveas> #
[20:33] <doug2266778822_> what do i need to install that lets me change my mouse theme?
[20:33] <Seveas> http_proxy=http://localhost:4001
[20:33] <Seveas> line 7
[20:33] <FloodBot2> Seveas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:33] <kristjans> :-) okay, stroyan, i'll have a look
[20:33] <Seveas> you *did* configure a proxy blivori_ :)
[20:33] <blivori_> Seveas: ok
[20:33] <blivori_> Seveas: how do I remove it
[20:33] <blivori_> Seveas: if I did
[20:33] <hozer__> I've got a Ubuntu server upgrade gone bad... can someone advise?  stuck on Mailscanner issues, exactly like:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62307/       Would be very grateful for some assistance.
[20:33] <ubuntu__> anyone who knows the exact time for when Hardy is released?
[20:34] <Seveas> blivori_, same way as you added it. Probably system -> preferences -> proxy or something
[20:34] <blivori_> alex314: yes 3:45 EST
[20:34] <nexact> alex314, it just has been delayed by 2 hours because you asked it.
[20:34] <blivori_> Seveas: I DID NOT EDIT OMFG
[20:34] <blivori_> ADD IT*
[20:34] <Seveas> blivori_, it does not just appear...
[20:34] <ubuntu__> thx
[20:34] <DanikarPN> It gets delayed 2 hours everytime someone asks. So I guess it is coming out next release? lol
[20:35] <incorrect> help
[20:35] <blivori_> Seveas: yes it does. Miracles exist you know
[20:35] <incorrect> i've hit a key combo
[20:35] <Seveas> blivori_, ....
[20:35] <incorrect> damn it
[20:35] <incorrect> i can't see
[20:35] <blivori_> Seveas: the system _> network proxy thing is also set as direct connect to internet
[20:35] <incorrect> how can i change from zoom ?
[20:35] <mattgyver83> Can i upgrade from 6.10 to 8.04 without having to upgrade to each version between?
[20:35] <Seveas> incorrect, logo key + scrollwheel
[20:36] <Seveas> mattgyver83, you can try but it's unsupported
[20:36] <zoom> ??
[20:36] <zoom> :)
[20:36] <incorrect> Seveas, i am on a lap top
[20:36] <Seveas> incorrect, far right side of the touchpad functions as scrollwheel :)
[20:36] <incorrect> damn it never hit this key combo before
[20:36] <stroyan> hozer__:  That looks suspiciously close to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=477055
[20:37] <incorrect> Seveas, i have a crappy tosh
[20:37] <Seveas> incorrect, /msg Amaranth
[20:37] <Seveas> he's compiz wiz
[20:37] <caleb_> incorrect: if you are talking about firefox you can zoom in or out with the ctrl and = and - keys
[20:37] <blivori_> Seveas: so ?
[20:37] <incorrect> yay
[20:37] <incorrect> plugin a mouse
[20:37] <Seveas> blivori_, then you set it somewhere else. No idea where, I didn't touch your machine
[20:37] <incorrect> thanks
[20:37] <alex314> blivori_, so Hardy should be released in about 11 hours?
[20:37] <blivori_> Seveas: liar yes you did
[20:37] <Seveas> incorrect, that'll work
[20:37] <blivori_> alex314: yes
[20:37] <Seveas> blivori_, if you want to be kicked, say so
[20:38] <Seveas> alex314, probably a few more
[20:38] <andycaass> My nx6325 lappy doesnt want to change brightness after i suspended it, how to get 100% brightness back???
[20:38] <trekkme> anybody know at which exact time (gmt) the official hardy images wille be realeased?
[20:38] <blivori_> Seveas: why are you being mean to me?
[20:38] <codysoyland> is ubuntu 8.04 coming out at midnight tonight?
[20:38] <Seveas> !isitout | trekkme
[20:38] <Seveas> sigh, ubotu!
[20:38] <blivori_> Seveas: I f i remove line 7 will it remove the proxy ?
[20:38] <jimcooncat> ubotu, where are you?
[20:39] <ere4si> !lag
[20:39] <blivori_> aw AaronMT
[20:39] <ubotu> trekkme: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.
[20:39] <Kcaj[UBuntu]> arrrgh
[20:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about where are you? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:39] <Kcaj[UBuntu]> smb.conf is owned by root
[20:39] <AaronMT> Hi, is there no DVD navigation available in viewing dvd's in Totem?
[20:39] <Kcaj[UBuntu]> and I have it open in an editor
[20:39] <Kcaj[UBuntu]> can't svae my changes
[20:39] <FloodBot2> Kcaj[UBuntu]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:39] <Kcaj[UBuntu]> because it says no permission
[20:39] <blivori_> AaronMT: where are you from
[20:39] <Kcaj[UBuntu]> can't change the permissions because it says I am not owner :(
[20:40] <kasansweat> So, I know how to do nautilus scripts--I was wondering if it is possible to drag and drop files onto a script in nautilus (really, the icon for the script) and have it run?
[20:40] <AaronMT> Why?
[20:40] <trekkme> thx anyways, will sit it out...
[20:40] <blivori_> AaronMT: are you from Malta?
[20:40] <AaronMT> no
[20:40] <blivori_> AaronMT: then you're not my frien
[20:40] <blivori_> d
[20:40] <AaronMT> Thanks for sharing.
[20:40] <AaronMT> Hi, is there no DVD navigation available in viewing dvd's in Totem?
[20:41] <jimcooncat> kasansweat: yes, I think the filename gets passed to your script as $1
[20:41] <Orbixx> Does anyone know why Nautilus' windows are locked in size?
[20:41] <blivori_> AaronMT: no problem
[20:41] <nagim> when will ubuntuHH be on ubuntu.com?
[20:42] <kostas2505> test
[20:42] <Orbixx> Within 24 hours.
[20:42] <Flannel> Orbixx: no, within 40 hours.
[20:42] <andycaass> Why can i only change brightness in VT (fn keys)? I have to keep switching between them to change brightness
[20:43] <Orbixx> Flannel: My bad.
[20:43] <sparr_> 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed ... Need to get 0B/1421kB of archives. <-- why would the package already be downloaded but not already upgraded?
[20:44] <amenado> sparr_-> packages can be downloaded without it being installed
[20:45] <AaronMT> Oh sheesh after all these months Totem still cant navigate dvd's
[20:45] <whileimhere> Is 7z really capable of compressing files better than zip?
[20:46] <AaronMT> Yes
[20:46] <Flannel> whileimhere: depends a lot on the file contents
[20:46] <whileimhere> rom files
[20:46] <whileimhere> they are zipped once already
[20:46] <patifa> Don't add 7z on top of zip
[20:46] <jeroen-> I try to find VMware-player in the Ubuntu Hardy repo's, but I can't find it. I understand its part of the kernel, but how to start it?
[20:46] <Dimedhel>  /msg NickServ set email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:47] <andycaass> Why can i only change brightness in VT (fn keys)? I have to keep switching between them to change brightness
[20:47] <patifa> But, likely, 7z will beat zip provided you use high settings for 7z compression.
[20:47] <whileimhere> patifa wont make much diff huh?
[20:47] <patifa> well attempting to 'double compress' eliminates the benefits of having the compressor finding repiticious stuff
[20:48] <Anza> hey
[20:48] <Anza> one question
[20:48] <amenado> you also have to see how fast it compress and decompress
[20:48] <whileimhere> I see I didnt know that
[20:48] <friel> By any chance does anyone have experience with SMAC ported by loki?
[20:48] <bayar> jeroen  im using vmware-server is better
[20:48] <patifa> well both are of similar speed, though 7z is a little slower, I think.
[20:48] <patifa> erm, decompression is about the same, compression is slower for 7z
[20:48] <jeroen-> bayar: I can't find that either
[20:48] <Anza> I have problems to follow the instructions in this site to get the free pop
[20:48] <Anza> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/free-pop3-and-smtp-access-to-yahoo-mail-using-ypops-in-ubuntu.html
[20:48] <jeroen-> I just want to run a ISO
[20:49] <Anza> in the source list, when it asks me to paste that line, save and close... it appears somethign saying I dont have permissions to that
[20:49] <Anza> so, I cant save and go on with the process
[20:50] <bayar> jeroen
[20:50] <Anza> anyone can help please?
[20:50] <AaronMT> !sudo Anza
[20:50] <Anza> in the terminal?
[20:50] <Ktron> how the _____ do I disable the avahi daemon? I don't want ANYTHING re enabling interfaces except for me
[20:50] <bayar> jeroen-:  whait a moment i will give u a url
[20:50] <AaronMT> !sudo | anza
[20:50] <Bubble_tea> Are there program that works like SWF files editing?
[20:50] <Anza> ok, let me try
[20:50] <jeroen-> bayar: yes, but it was always in the repo's , but not any more
[20:50] <Bubble_tea> Shockwave Dreamwavers. etc/
[20:50] <Ktron> I've /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon stop, update-rc.d -f avahi-daemon remove...
[20:50] <jeroen-> I try to find why
[20:51] <Bubble_tea> Or have installation to those programs into wine
[20:51] <Ktron> And still there's something that thinks it knows how I should have my interfaces configured better than I do
[20:51] <bayar> jeroen because there is a new virtual machine (a gnu one) now
[20:52] <jeroen-> bayar: you mean virtual box?
[20:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudo anza - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:52] <Anza> no Aaron, it says the same: You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[20:52] <ubotu> anza: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[20:52] <bayar> no jeroen an other one i forget the name
[20:52] <thannoy> jeroen-: you can try qemu if you have is in your repo. It is a command line virtualizer which can do the trick just pretty
[20:52] <pericles> Does anyone know what exact time Ubuntu 8.04 will be released?
[20:53] <goertel> yeah what time anyone know?
[20:53] <hanophix33> my firefox crashes alot, any recommendations?
[20:53] <Flannel> No.  No one knows.
[20:53] <jeroen-> I dont understand: vmware was always in repos, now its in the kernel, but its not in the repos anymore
[20:53] <jeroen-> I dont like qemu
[20:53] <Ktron> Anyone-- how do I disable avahi?
[20:54] <amenado> Ktron-> how is your interface configured? as you claimed configured by avahi?
[20:54] <pericles> thanx
[20:54] <kbrosnan> hanophix33: uninstall flash?
[20:54] <goertel> ohh 8( i want it as soon as it comes out.
[20:54] <Orbixx> Does anyone know why Nautilus' windows are locked in size?
[20:54] <hanophix33> kbrosnan:  than what about flash files?
[20:54] <Guillem> jeroen-, virtualbox
[20:54] <tonyyarusso> goertel: #ubuntu-release-party
[20:54] <goertel> ty
[20:54] <kostas2505> has anyone tried to sync with htc tytn ii?
[20:54] <jeroen-> Guillem: yes I understand that is new, but is it as fast and stable as vmware?
[20:55] <evandro> where's ubuntu br?
[20:55] <tonyyarusso> evandro: #ubuntu-br
[20:55] <psych> lol
[20:55] <evandro> tks
[20:55] <jeroen-> and why build it in the kernel and remove the player of the repos
[20:55] <Guillem> jeroen-, I'm not an expert, but for sure it deserves a try :)
[20:55] <psych> evandro, damn brazilians :)
[20:56] <Ktron> amenado, http://ktron.pastecode.com/?show=m287e0c16
[20:56] <Anza> no, it won't work :(
[20:56] <Anza> see, this is it
[20:57] <Ktron> amenado, Maybe its Ubuntu networking itself
[20:57] <Anza> first it says I must do: $sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:57] <Anza> then, it opens a sources list
[20:57] <Anza> and in that list
[20:57] <Ktron> amenado, regardless, all I want is to have control over my own network configuration and not have applications changing it on me/reverting it on me every couple minutes
[20:57] <Anza> I must write: deb http://tskariah.000webhost.com/ubuntu ubuntu main
[20:57] <Anza> save
[20:57] <rogly> Can anybody here help me with setting my screen resolution in Hardy Heron manually
[20:57] <Anza> and close
[20:57] <Seveas> Anza, sudo, not $sudo
[20:58] <Anza> but the manual says $sudo
[20:58] <Anza> ahhh wait
[20:58] <tonyyarusso> !fixres | rogly
[20:58] <ubotu> rogly: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[20:58] <Seveas> it probably says '$ sudo' -- $ indicates the command prompt Anza
[20:58] <rogly> thank you
[20:58] <andycaass> why & when should I use "ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE"
[20:59] <dxdemetriou> I saw before about smartpm.. it's a good idea to use it on Ubuntu as package manager? I wonder if I can use something that will make updates on some packages from some repo and not based by latest version
[20:59] <Seveas> dxdemetriou, ubuntu does not support smartpm
[20:59] <AdrianStrays> So I installed a new login, which had the nifty feature of displaying all the different users (a la Windows), rather than prompting for user name.  I was surprised to find that there was another user, one which I had not created.   Look in system -> administration
[21:00] <Seveas> you should not remove this user, you can simply exclude him in the loginscreen config
[21:00] <dts> what tool can i use to reconfigure X after i screwed up the config file?
[21:00] <dts> plsssss
[21:01] <Seveas> !xfix
[21:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:01] <Seveas> meh
[21:01] <AdrianStrays> Seveas, what is it for? Can I delete it?
[21:01] <artti> Evening everyone.
[21:01] <Seveas> dts, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[21:01] <stvn_> How do i see how much RAM i'm using in console?
[21:01] <Seveas> AdrianStrays, you can delete it -- apt-get remove sabayon
[21:01] <rogly> fix res
[21:02] <Seveas> stvn_, with the command called 'free'
[21:02] <dts> Seveas: thanxs
[21:02] <Seveas> stvn_, or with top/htop
[21:02] <stvn_> ty Seveas
[21:02] <StucKman_> hi all. can anyone tell me the difference between linux-image-2.6.24-16-386_2.6.24-16.30_i386.deb  and linux-image-2.6.24-16-generic_2.6.24-16.30_i386.deb  ?
[21:02] <rogly> when I typed that into console to fix my resolution, i jsut got a black screen =[
[21:02] <AdrianStrays> Seveas, for what reason is it installed? I don't recall ever putting it in.
[21:03] <Seveas> AdrianStrays, it's installed by default nowadays
[21:03] <dxdemetriou> Seveas, I said about smartpm just to say what I'm trying to do. can I do it with apt?
[21:03] <artti> Please, can someone recommend me music player for Ubuntu.
[21:03] <Seveas> dxdemetriou, yes, with apt pinning
[21:03] <andycaass> why & when should I use "ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE"
[21:03] <Seveas> artti, bmpx
[21:03] <bayar> jeroen are u there?
[21:03] <artti> Amarok crashed, Rythmbox don't want play mp3's. Currenlty i use XMMS.
[21:03] <StucKman_> artti: bmpx, quod libet, amarok...
[21:04] <whileimhere> So is this upcoming Ubuntu going to be released with GOBuntu upgrade at the same time?
[21:04] <dethstar> artti, what about banshee?
[21:05] <dxdemetriou> Seveas, I saw about it, but what I understood was about pinning and unpinning some versions, I didn't see anything about following only one repo.. anyway, thanks for help :)
[21:05] <iRelinquish> or exaile
[21:05] <friel> trying to change permissions on a folder while logged as root. what is the correct syntax for the command?
[21:05] <littlepinkdot> Whats the script/software that shows live traffic and decrypts and shows pictures and such?
[21:05] <artti> XMMS is good but negative side is that tag editor isn't good.
[21:05] <dethstar> I absolutely love banshee.  It's not as heavy as amarok, but has the same features that I want.
[21:05] <Seveas> littlepinkdot, a web browser?
[21:06] <MrObvious> !encryption
[21:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about encryption - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:06] <dethstar> or listen?
[21:06] <dethstar> the listen player is just amarok for gnome.... pretty much
[21:06] <whileimhere> When I download a MP3 from Amazon.com and it says it is DRM free do they do anything to the MP3 to ID it to me?
[21:06] <frold> Hey, I have this: http://portalxl40.cvs.sourceforge.net/portalxl40/portal_xl40/ <<<--- howto download the files from the CVS folder?
[21:06] <littlepinkdot> lol Seveas, no there was a script I read about a while ago that can be used to sniff traffic on wireless/wired network and show any pictures it finds.
[21:06] <Ktron> So, what in *ubuntu Re enables interfaces withotu asking you?
[21:06] <poopcheese3044> does ubuntu need to be activated?
[21:06] <Ktron> I have avahi disabled
[21:07] <danand> artti - have you looked at easytag for editing tags?
[21:07] <Ktron> nm-applet is not running
[21:07] <Seveas> whileimhere, this is ubuntu support, offtopic talk elsewhere please
[21:07] <Seveas> poopcheese3044, no. Ubuntu is software libre
[21:07] <Ktron> does the networking service itself in ?ubuntu re enable interfaces as it sees fit?
[21:07] <artti> Haven't time yet to look things. Yesterday i installed Ubuntu.
[21:07] <whileimhere> Okay. are all Ubuntu distros updated at the same time or will Gobuntu be left behind for awhile?
[21:08] <amenado> Ktron-> how is your interface configured? as you claimed configured by avahi?
[21:08] <Seveas> Ktron, it will activate the wired interface if you plug it in
[21:08] <CJS3141> I'm looking for a recommendation for a really good bittorrent client for Ubuntu--anybody have a favorite? :)
[21:08] <damdalf> hey guys ;)
[21:08] <artti> Vista got blue screen after i had it 4 days.
[21:08] <Seveas> whileimhere, all at the same time
[21:08] <brrt> CJS3141: deluge
[21:08] <palbuddy> quick question (help a newbie :)) I want to open a torrent with deluge in gnome, but where is deluge in the directory structure? where can I find it with 'open with?'
[21:08] <Seveas> palbuddy, /usr/bin/deluge I think
[21:08] <Ktron> amenado, Seveas, I have a wireless connection that is reenabling itself, there are before and after ifconfig pastes here http://ktron.pastecode.com/?show=m287e0c16
[21:08] <AmbuTech> Any ideas why an HP Pavilion with a realtec network card will not detect the the card in ubuntu 8.04?
[21:09] <whileimhere> I want to use Gobuntu but I still want to play my MP3s will Gobuntu give me a hard time with this?
[21:09] <Some_Person> Is there any way to burn a video to a DVD-VR formatted disc?
[21:09] <brrt> Isn't deluge supposed to be a mimesink?
[21:09] <Guillem> AmbuTech, yes
[21:09] <Arky44> AmbuTech: Windows Wireless drivers will not work in ubuntu (for the most part)
[21:09] <Guillem> AmbuTech, If've seen that
[21:09] <brrt> Some_Person: depends on wether that video is correctly encoded and your dvd burner
[21:09] <CJS3141> brrt: Sounds promising--is the <IP_ADDRESS>.1 version in Synaptic up-to-date enough? Or should I get it off the web somewhere?
[21:10] <Guillem> AmbuTech, If you add "acpi=no" in the kernel options like (at grub menu.lst), the card works.
[21:10] <Seveas> whileimhere, then it would no longer be gobuntu :)
[21:10] <Dgro> Hi
[21:10] <amenado> Ktron eth1:avahi is irrelevant, you cant use it anyways...try and see
[21:10] <Some_Person> brrt: my burner supports it, and i can easily reencode
[21:10] <Guillem> AmbuTech, s/like r/line
[21:10] <roman> Hi, anyone here who can help me with a Bluetooth Audio problem?
[21:10] <AmbuTech> Cheers
[21:10] <Seveas> !anyone | roman
[21:10] <ubotu> roman: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[21:10] <whileimhere> LOL That is just one small part I thought Gobuntu was an overall thing
[21:10] <AmbuTech> trying now
[21:10] <doug2266778822_> how does one change the mouse themes?
[21:10] <roman> okay ;)
[21:11] <brrt> then burn it :-) I use brasero for burning
[21:11] <balzac> hello
[21:11] <palbuddy> thank you very very much seveas!
[21:11] <balzac> I'm trying to block some domains from my computer
[21:11] <Some_Person> brrt: how would i add a new title to my disc/
[21:11] <palbuddy> I appreciate all the help you guys give!
[21:11] <balzac> What's the best way to go about it?
[21:11] <brrt> that I don't know
[21:11] <frold> howto download a CVS when you have the path?
[21:11] <palbuddy> okay well take care, and have a great day!
[21:11] <Ktron> amenado, so (not my choice but) my DNS server has a 169.254.0.x address, so I think when avahi comes up it takes over the route and then my DNS doesn't work anymore
[21:11] <amenado> balzac several ways, iptables rules or host.deny
[21:11] <rogly> does anybody know where to get themes for Hardy Heron?
[21:11] <damdalf> how i can do hfs+ under ubuntu 7.10 instalation?
[21:12] <Orbixx> How do I check file permissions?
[21:12] <Seveas> Ktron, you should *not* use 169.254 anywhere
[21:12] <Orbixx> Remotely, via SSH?
[21:12] <Ktron> amenado, so my DNS stops working and I have to disable the interface again to get DNS back
[21:12] <Coggz> how do i add a user in command line
[21:12] <Seveas> Ktron, 169.254 is the link-local subnet, it should not be used in configurations
[21:12] <Ktron> Seveas, I have no choice; it was my company's decision
[21:12] <balzac> amendo, does the host.deny file already exist?
[21:12] <Seveas> Ktron, then your network admins need a good kick in the nuts, really
[21:12] <balzac> if not, where do I put it?
[21:12] <danand> Coggz - look at the adduser command :) man adduser
[21:12] <bastid_raZor> Coggz; man adduser will give you a tuturial
[21:12] <balzac> amenado
[21:13] <roman> So, my Bluetooth Headset is connected. Unfortunaly, it does not show up anywhere in the system (not in volume control etc.), but if I run "arecord -D bluetooth -f S16_LE | aplay -D bluetooth -f S16_LE", I can hear myself in the headset. So, how do I get the system to use my headset, and not my "normal" soundcard?
[21:13] <Coggz> cool
[21:13] <Coggz> thanx
[21:13] <Ktron> Seveas, It was chosen to be used as a set of non-public IPs that couldn't collide with public addresses OR local subnets
[21:13] <rogly> anybody on where to get Hardy heron themes?
[21:13] <Ktron> Seveas, for our vlan
[21:13] <amenado> balzac-> look for it in /etc
[21:13] <slackeredd> i'm looking to reverse all the colors on the screen and just read http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/1095/  aptitude says compiz is installed, but how do i use it or super+m?
[21:13] <Seveas> Ktron, it clashes with what it's meant for, which you are now seeing
[21:13] <balzac> thanks amenado
[21:13] <Ktron> Seveas, I agree though, its horrible, and yes, it causes problems like this
[21:13] <Seveas> Ktron, disable avahi to work around it
[21:13] <balzac> I sense a productive week ahead, after I block out slashdot, digg, etc...
[21:14] <Seveas> and pray you never have mac users
[21:14] <Ktron> Seveas, I'm trying to disable avahi, but I can't
[21:14] <Baby_Shambl3s> can someone provide me a working link that allows me to download cairo-dock it seems google has all these expired links and posts "would prefer .deb if possible"?
[21:14] <dts> WHY does the stupid Gnome Recovery mode work and not the regular mode
[21:14] <Ktron> Seveas, I've /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon stop, and I've even update-rc.d -f avahi-daemon remove
[21:14] <amenado> Ktron disable the interface that you dont use..
[21:14] <amenado> Ktron dont leave it up
[21:14] <Seveas> Ktron, it's avahi-autoipd you want gone
[21:14] <doxid> Hey lads, how come i get this error whein trying to mount a NTFS device:  http://<IP_ADDRESS>/error.png  (i managed to mount it just a min ago but after installing LVM2 it dosn't work)
[21:15] <Ktron> amenado, Seveas and I _do_ disable the interface I don't use with ifconfig eth1 down _but_ something is re enabling it
[21:15] <amenado> Ktron not per what you pasted, it is still up
[21:15] <Seveas> Ktron, avahi itself did that, nothing to do with network-manager :)
[21:15] <Marfi> doxid, are you sure that its ntfs?
[21:15] <amenado> Ktron disable the interface that you dont use..
[21:15] <ikonia> doxid: show me fdisk -l /dev/sdb in a pastebin please.
[21:15] <Ktron> amenado, the stop section is what I change it to with an ifconfig eth1 down, BUT then something enables them into the second ifconfig paste
[21:16] <Seveas> Ktron, kill avahi-autoipd
[21:16] <amenado> Ktron what stop section?  what command you issued?
[21:16] <doxid> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/d29217848
[21:16] <Marfi> doxid, i would also check and make sure its not sdb1, or hdb1
[21:16] <ikonia> doxid: have you added any pv's from sdb into a volume group ?
[21:16] <doxid> ikonia, since i just ripped it out of a windows machine i'm pretty sure it's NTFS :P
[21:16] <damdalf>  why in gparted on ubunty(on installing) hfs+ partition type is grey(cant select)?
[21:17] <doxid> ikonia, nope. only sda
[21:17] <dts> hmm
[21:17] <Orbixx> Does anyone know why Nautilus' windows are locked in size?
[21:17] <Ktron> amenado, I configure my system so it looks like the top part of http://ktron.pastecode.com/?show=m287e0c16, and then something (avahi-autoipd most likely) changes it back to the bottom section without me doing anything
[21:17] <doxid> oh shoot
[21:17] <ikonia> doxid: try mounting it read only with the ntfs driver, rather than ntfs-3g
[21:17] <Lardarse> damdalf: is the partition mounted? if so unmount it and try again
[21:17] <Ktron> Seveas, I killed them... but there wasn't any running, so what starts avahi-autoipd?
[21:17] <doxid> ikonia, i might have accedently added sdb, but i removed it (i hope)
[21:17] <ikonia> doxid: if you did that, it's game over
[21:17] <Ktron> Seveas, er, hold on, let me clarify
[21:17] <Seveas> Ktron, /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-exit-hooks.d/zzz_avahi-autoipd
[21:17] <damdalf> ohh
[21:17] <damdalf> ty
[21:17] <ikonia> doxid: that would explain the situation
[21:17] <doxid> ikonia, :S
[21:17] <dts> any ideas why Gnome Recovery mode works and not the regular mode just goes blank white screen?
[21:18] <doxid> ikex, no f-ing way : / seriously? :S
[21:18] <Ktron> Seveas, I killed them previously, but they were restarted (and when you told me to kill them again, there were two processes up)... Okay
[21:18] <doxid> ikonia, fuck if thats the case i'm gona go cry in a crorner for the rest of my lifetime ._. that was my love-disk >_<
[21:18] <ikonia> doxid: sorry, yes, if you pvcreate it, it writes the private region, and that destorys your ntfs
[21:18] <ikonia> doxid: careful on the language please, it's not needed
[21:18] <damdalf> the partition is unnalocated
[21:18] <doxid> ops sry : /
[21:18] <ikonia> doxid: no problem,
[21:19] <Ktron> Seveas, I made it no longer executable, hopefully that stops this
[21:19] <doxid> oh bugger : / thers like 11 years of work on that disk :'( i'm such a carrot :P
[21:19] <Joeseph> Is there an alternative program to Xorg?
[21:19] <ikonia> doxid: sorry, pvcreate will do that to it
[21:19] <Seveas> Ktron, or edit it (it's a script) and remove the call to autoipd
[21:19] <Ktron> Seveas, thanks
[21:19] <Guillem> Joeseph, very alternative
[21:19] <doxid> ikonia, can LVM2 read ntfs properly?
[21:19] <Joeseph> Guillem: as in not very main-stream? or what?
[21:19] <ikonia> doxid: lvm is not a file system thing
[21:19] <doxid> nvm : / pvc will create a clean slate : /
[21:19] <ikonia> doxid: it's a disk volume managment tool
[21:20] <doxid> ikonia, yepp my bad. my head is spinning for possible solutions :P
[21:20] <Guillem> Joeseph, there are several alternatives not suitable for "normal users"
[21:20] <ikonia> doxid: don't worry, it's complex with all the layers
[21:20] <ikonia> doxid: easy to get lost
[21:20] <Guillem> Joeseph, Xorg has become pretty smart nevertheless.
[21:20] <ikonia> doxid: your not the first and you won't be the last
[21:20] <Joeseph> Guillem: ah... I've just had trouble with Xorg: it seems to eat up my cpu at random times
[21:20] <doxid> ikonia, i'm probobly the first guy who skipped 20% of the manual as usual and ended up with 11 years of lost data :P
[21:20] <Guillem> Joeseph, try the vesa driver: no acceleration and so on
[21:21] <rsids1> does anyone know how to setup a multimonitor setup with 2 different GPU's? (1 nvidia, 1 ATI)
[21:21] <Guillem> Joeseph, but you can check where your trouble is coming from
[21:21] <doug2266778822_> is there a convert x to dvd for ubuntu?
[21:21] <Joeseph> Guilllem: how do I do that- and I'll look up the vesa driver thing
[21:21] <andycaass> is ubuntu wiki down or what?
[21:21] <ikonia> doxid: if you fancy a challange you could try dd'ing the data off, creating a new file system and trying to re-create it (long shot)
[21:22] <Guillem> Joeseph, which card do you have?
[21:22] <doxid> ikonia, or i'll just start programming all over again from a 1 year old backup : / think that will be alot faster :P
[21:23] <ikonia> doxid: your the boss, just trying to give you options
[21:23] <doxid> ikonia, hopefully i got some stuff on my SVN server
[21:23] <doxid> ikonia, thank you alot for the help :) actually ment alot
[21:23] <ikonia> doxid: not a problem
[21:23] <Dgro> Hi
[21:23] <Joeseph> Guillem: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset Graphics Controller (CGC) (rev 04)
[21:24] <Dgro> plugins and downloads, How?
[21:24] <Guillem> Joeseph, then, backup your /etc/xorg.conf, edit the file and locate where it says  "   Driver "intel"  " replacing with " Driver "vesa" ". You'll have to restart X.
[21:25] <Joeseph> Guillem: like, right now, my computer is just dandy great.  Later, seemingly randomly, Xorg will just blow up when I do anything, so the above is what you suggest for that?
[21:26] <Guillem> Joeseph, vesa driver is very limited. Do not expect any dandyness
[21:26] <Guillem> Joeseph, it is like fail-safe mode
[21:26] <Guillem> Joeseph, are you sure Xorg is the one which is eating the CPU??
[21:27] <Joeseph> Guillem:  yes, I've looked in top
[21:27] <RAW-mEAT|TC> how many hours until release?
[21:27] <_Rambaldi_> can i change what some keys on my keyboard does? ie make my home buttom be backspace as well. i have a small backspace next to home and i keep hitting that instead
[21:27] <Seveas> !isitout | RAW-mEAT|TC
[21:27] <ubotu> RAW-mEAT|TC: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.
[21:27] <Guillem> Joeseph, are you using desktop-effects? (3D)
[21:27] <Joeseph> Guillem: Why am I installing this vesa driver?
[21:28] <Guillem> Joeseph, it is a suggestion only. In order to see where your trouble is coming from...
[21:28] <Dgro> BB
[21:28] <Gary_inNYC> Are the apt servers going to be hammered like when gutsy just came out?
[21:28] <roman> My Bluetooth Headset is connected. Unfortunaly, it does not show up anywhere in the system (not in volume control etc.), but if I run "arecord -D bluetooth -f S16_LE | aplay -D bluetooth -f S16_LE", I can hear myself in the headset. So, how do I get the system to use my headset, and not my "normal" soundcard?
[21:28] <Gralco> so im not sure if my Nvidia glx graphics card can't handle Gnomes effects or if its a but, but some times my screen will just mess up
[21:28] <Vlet> So, I've adjusted my xorg correctly to the best of my knowlege, but when I restart gdm, it still is using the wrong resolution, and my desired resolution is not in the options in the 'screen resolution' applet. Why?
[21:28] <balzac> hello
[21:28] <Gralco> and i dont know what to do
[21:29] <Joeseph> Guillem: I am not using any 3d desktop effects.  On KDE, I have about half the effects on, but effects do not cause the Xorg to shoot up. For example, on gnome, I have no effects, and it still randomly shoots to close to 100% of my cpu.
[21:29] <Gralco> report it as a bug?
[21:29] <balzac> I've modified my etc/hosts.deny file to block the ip address of a specific website
[21:29] <balzac> I can still load this site in my browser
[21:29] <tomd123> what does it mean for a bug to be triaged?
[21:29] <Seveas> Joeseph, use top in a terminal to find out what's doing that
[21:29] <balzac> do I need to reboot my networking to make it take effect?
[21:29] <Joeseph> Guillem: so once I install this vesa driver, you'll help me figure out what is causing Xorg to eat my cpu?
[21:29] <Seveas> balzac, hosts.deny is for *incoming* connections
[21:29] <my_key> :names
[21:29] <balzac> crap
[21:29] <Joeseph> Seveas: I already know its Xorg
[21:30] <balzac> I want to block my outbound access
[21:30] <Vlet> balzac: hosts.deny is used by services like web servers to know who not to allow to access your system.
[21:30] <amenado> balzac-> hosts.deny is for incoming
[21:30] <Seveas> balzac, sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -d ip_address_here -j REJECT
[21:30] <balzac> ok, how can I block my own access to certain domains?
[21:30] <rwycuff> balzac: man iptables
[21:30] <amenado> balzac-> for outgoing you have to use iptables or in a proxy you blocked it there
[21:30] <balzac> thanks seveas
[21:30] <balzac> ok, iptables it is...
[21:31] <F3d0rA> Is Ubuntu nearly ready?  Both 32 and 64 bit versions?
[21:31] <Seveas> balzac, or install firestarter if you don't want to use the commandline :)
[21:31] <Gary_inNYC> When Hardy is officially available, will the apt repos get overwhelmed?
[21:31] <Seveas> !isitout | F3d0rA
[21:31] <ubotu> F3d0rA: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.
[21:31] <balzac> seveas, I'll try it
[21:31] <Guillem> Joeseph, it is getting late here :( . You were asking for a radical solution.... I just have pointed one possible choice. I understand you don't want to mess the xorg.conf file specially if you have never done so....
[21:31] <AlabamaHit> Was wonderin I installed phpmyadmin. I have not changed my DocumentRoot and I can not get acess to the phpadmin I think I ahve to change the root but...my questin is how can i add folders that apache views without changing the DocumentRoot...cause i want it to work on the localhost, phpadmin, and my Projects folder.
[21:31] <F3d0rA> hm
[21:31] <Guillem> Joeseph, you may try a liveCD to see if that happens as well....
[21:31] <Starnestommy> AlabamaHit: did you restart apache after installing it?
[21:32] <F3d0rA> BBL
[21:32] <mut80r> oh while I'm here, any idea why a bcm4311 isn't working on an acer aspire 5315 on gutsy? i press the wifi button and the light doesnt come on and nm-applet never lists any networks.
[21:32] <jturk> I have a page that when I load it in FF3b5 it immediately logs me out of gnome, doesn't happen for windows users on FF3b5.  can anyone point me in the right direction of who to report this to
[21:32] <ikonia> AlabamaHit just create sub-folders int he document root
[21:32] <balzac> I've tried squid and ebox, and found them too difficult to set up.
[21:32] <oxtailsoup> hi all! i've just wanted to start compiz but it sad: "composite extension not present" what shall i do?
[21:32] <AlabamaHit> Starnestommy: yes
[21:32] <Baby_Shambl3s> please check this as i have finally found the fiel for cairo-dock apparently the project still exist under a discreet domain :/ - http://pastebin.ca/995002, any suggestions to that warning are welcomed as long as it is helpful?
[21:32] <simonft2> does anybody know how to install open office on a ppc pc with ubuntu on it?
[21:32] <axord> jturk: what's the page?
[21:32] <ikonia> simonft2: the same way you do with any package
[21:32] <jturk> http://qwiki.caltech.edu/wiki/Complexity_Zoo
[21:32] <simonft2> how?
[21:32] <ikonia> simonft2: you open the package manager, select it and click intstall
[21:33] <amenado> balzac kind of dumb trick, you can put an entry in the /etc/hosts for the destination and point it to a nonexisting ip address
[21:33] <AlabamaHit> ikonia: i was trying to avoid that becuase i want to be able to move and save files without root privilage
[21:33] <ikonia> simonft2: have you read ANY of the documents today ?
[21:33] <rwycuff> AlabamaHit: do you have php setup
[21:33] <simonft2> lol
[21:33] <simonft2> no it wont work
[21:33] <Joeseph> Guillem: alright, I guess I won't mess with anything now-
[21:33] <ikonia> AlabamaHit: you don't need root privilages, use sudo
[21:33] <simonft2> ill show you the erro
[21:33] <simonft2> r
[21:33] <FloodBot2> simonft2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:33] <ikonia> soulrider_: what won't work ?
[21:33] <ikonia> simonft2: what won't work ?
[21:33] <mad_max02> Guys is ubuntu server good os for server in a mid sized network ?? It would need to be mail server, active directory server,...
[21:33] <ikonia> AlabamaHit: just change the owner/group and you can do it with non-root accounts
[21:33] <pschorf> Is there a way to have GCC use certain flags (-g and -Wall) every time it is executed from the command line?
[21:33] <AlabamaHit> if i make folder in home i never have to touch the terminal for it woul be alot easier, lol
[21:33] <simonft2> the install
[21:33] <ikonia> mad_max02: it's as good / bad as any linux distro
[21:33] <Guillem> Joeseph, OK, do google a bit to see if there is any special issue with that card. Also, check Hardy in a couple of days...
[21:33] <axord> jturk: loaded fine for me with latest FF3 nightly
[21:33] <Vlet> So, I've adjusted my xorg correctly to the best of my knowlege, but when I restart gdm, it still is using the wrong resolution, and my desired resolution is not in the options in the 'screen resolution' applet. Why?
[21:33] <Seveas> mad_max02, yeah, it's fine there if samba will do as AD replacement for you
[21:34] <oxtailsoup> can you help me? compiz is saying "composite extension not present"
[21:34] <simonft2> OpenOffice.org Word Processor cannot be installed on your computer type (powerpc)
[21:34] <simonft2> Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type
[21:34] <Joeseph> Guillem: will do....   hope hardy fixes it too
[21:34] <ikonia> simonft2: ok, so it's not supported on ppc
[21:34] <Starnestommy> oxtailsoup: did you enable the restricted drivers in System > Administration > Restricted Drivers Manager?
[21:34] <pschorf> Is there a way to have GCC use certain flags (-g and -Wall) every time it is executed from the command line?
[21:34] <simonft2> so there is nothing i can do?
[21:34] <jturk> axord: any idea on how to get a trace? consistently logs me out of gnome, weirdest bug I've seen in a while
[21:34] <ikonia> pschorf: CFLAGS LDFLAGS
[21:35] <pschorf> ikonia: would i put that in my .bashrc?
[21:35] <Guillem> Joeseph, if I were you, I would check hardy prior to doing any strange thing.... specially when Hardy is to be released right now.
[21:35] <ikonia> pschorf: if you want
[21:35] <axord> jturk: sorry, no idea. And yeah, very weird.
[21:35] <oxtailsoup> Starnestommy: yes i did, it's active and in use
[21:35] <AutoMatriX> Hi folks
[21:35] <sarthor> Hi, Manual about pppoe server is here http://www.freeantennas.com/PPPoE-Server-HOWTO.html, but this manual is for suse, is there any specific for ubuntu??
[21:35] <Seveas> !pppoe
[21:35] <ikonia> simonft2: https://help.ubuntu.com
[21:35] <ikonia> ioops
[21:35] <ikonia> simonft2: sorry, not for you
[21:35] <mut80r> guys ? bcm4311 on gutsy? no networks ever picked up and wireless light does not come on when button is pressed.
[21:35] <Joeseph> Guillem: alright, I'll check when Hardy comes out....
[21:35] <ikonia> sarthor: https://help.ubuntu.com
[21:36] <simmerz> where can i change settings about hard drive spin down/up?
[21:36] <ikonia> simonft2: hdparm
[21:36] <ikonia> simonft2: sorry again
[21:36] <ikonia> simonft2: hdparm
[21:36] <simonft2> lol
[21:36] <Baby_Shambl3s> please check this as i have finally found the fiel for cairo-dock apparently the project still exist under a discreet domain :/ - http://pastebin.ca/995002, any suggestions to that warning are welcomed as long as it is helpful?
[21:36] <rsids1> does anyone know how to setup a multimonitor setup with 2 different GPU's? (1 nvidia, 1 ATI)
[21:36] <ikonia> ooh for the love of.....
[21:36] <simmerz> try simmerz
[21:36] <ikonia> simonft2: very sorry
[21:36] <oxtailsoup> any other ideas to my compiz problem?
[21:36] <ikonia> simmerz: hdparm
[21:37] <roman> My Bluetooth Headset is connected. Unfortunaly, it does not show up anywhere in the system (not in volume control etc.), but if I run "arecord -D bluetooth -f S16_LE | aplay -D bluetooth -f S16_LE", I can hear myself in the headset. So, how do I get the system to use my headset, and not my "normal" soundcard?
[21:37] <ikonia> rsids1: thats going to be quite a drag
[21:37] <simmerz> ikonia: heh
[21:37] <ikonia> rsids1: you'll have to use xienerma
[21:37] <pschorf> ikonia: I exported "-g -Wall" to CFLAGS and LDFLAGS, but if i run gcc, it doesn't generate warnings normally triggered by -Wall
[21:38] <mad_max02> is 8.04 package supposed to work on 7.10 ???
[21:38] <mad_max02> I'm asking about wine in particular
[21:38] <ikonia> pschorf: CXXFLAGS
[21:38] <hacknslash> oxtailsoup, does it lock up more when java applications are used ??
[21:38] <Guillem> mad_max02, I don't think so
[21:38] <Starnestommy> mad_max02: it's unlikely that it'll work correctly
[21:38] <ikonia> pschorf: LDFLAGS is for linker, sorry, I shold have been clear
[21:38] <mad_max02> okay thanks
[21:39] <basso> how can i add profile picture inn pidgin?
[21:39] <oxtailsoup> er, as far as i know not
[21:39] <doxid> ikonia, if it's not to bothersome to answer :) are you a official Ubuntu support employee? : )
[21:39] <Guillem> mad_max02, packages depend on libraries versions (>=something); 7.10 won't have some of them at a proper version
[21:39] <mut80r> basso: I believe it's the bottom right corner of the contacts window
[21:39] <pschorf> ikonia: so i export to CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS? I'm still not getting the warning.
[21:39] <ikonia> doxid: not any trouble, no I don't work for canonical
[21:39] <my_key> Sometimes after a reboot. The gnome sound applet says no sound device is present for gstreamer. I have an asus X51RL laptop. Can anyone give a tip on how I can start debugging this?
[21:39] <ikonia> pschorf: maybe the code is good
[21:39] <Godfather> rsids1: see priv
[21:39] <simmerz> ikonia: hdparm doesn't seem to give me a way to see what the spindown time is
[21:40] <ikonia> pschorf: sometimes configure can override them on certain software
[21:40] <doxid> ikonia, cool.. you're really great at what you are doing :) keep it up!
[21:40] <linkmaster03> how do I reinstall HPLIP?
[21:40] <ikonia> simmerz: hdparm -B
[21:40] <joliver> he
[21:40] <ikonia> doxid: thats very flattering thank you, glad to be of service
[21:40] <simmerz> that sets. so if i don't give it an option, it gets?
[21:40] <ikonia> simmerz: I don't know if it will get it, I think your just supposed to set it to what you want
[21:40] <pschorf> ikonia: if I actually type it in (gcc -g -Wall -o 1-1 1-1.c) it generates the warning...I would like it to run by default because I frequently forget to "return 0"
[21:41] <simmerz> ikonia: the point is i want to see what it is currently.
[21:41] <ikonia> simmerz: I (maybe wrongly) assumed disks came with it disabled and disks set it
[21:41] <joliver> hello
[21:41] <ng0n> can i format a partition, not the whole drive ?
[21:41] <joliver> I'm having an issue with apt authentication
[21:41] <joliver> GPG keys
[21:41] <ikonia> simmerz: ok, so you've got CFLAGS="-Wall" and CXXFLAGS-"-Wall" too ?
[21:41] <simmerz> wondering if ubuntu itself spins the drives down after some time? basically my machine locks up after extended periods of leaving it alone
[21:41] <simmerz> ikonia: ??
[21:41] <luka> hello I'm first time here on irc and have a big problem - my touchpad stopped working and I don'n know what to do
[21:41] <pschorf> simmerz: that was for me, i think
[21:42] <pschorf> ikonia: yes
[21:42] <ikonia> simmerz: try setting it to 255 (disable) and see if it spins the disk down
[21:42] <my_key> and alsamixer says: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[21:42] <ikonia> simmerz: sorry, wrong person
[21:42] <joliver> I get GPG error signatures invalid
[21:42] <Dgro> Hi
[21:42] <joliver> Any idea?
[21:42] <linkmaster03> how do I reinstall HPLIP?
[21:42] <simmerz> ikonia: ok
[21:42] <ikonia> pschorf: clear your source tree, re-unpack it (or clear the cache files) and try it, your Makefile is probably overriding it
[21:42] <pschorf> ikonia; will do
[21:42] <ikonia> simmerz: pschorf sorry, my typing is sloppy today for some reason
[21:42] <melter> is there a way to do both autoremove and purge?
[21:43] <ikonia> pschorf: thats the most common issue, the Makefile is written/updated byt he configure script, or cache files are overiding changes
[21:43] <joliver> any idea on GPG signature issues with ap?
[21:43] <joliver> apt
[21:43] <simmerz> ikonia: no worries
[21:43] <infbliss> are the default hideous fonts in Ubuntu fixed in Hardy Heron
[21:43] <mut80r> hideous fonts ?
[21:43] <ikonia> !hardy | infbliss
[21:43] <luka> hello I'm first time here on irc and have a big problem - my touchpad stopped working and I don'n know what to do
[21:43] <ikonia> oh for the love of....
[21:43] <ikonia> InsektO: hardy is discussed in #ubuntu+1
[21:44] <Anza> which mail client is the best? on ubuntu
[21:44] <ikonia> ughh
[21:44] <cabrioleur> luka, is there a button of buttons to turn it off and on?
[21:44] <joliver> apt-get update gives GPG error, any idea how to correct this?  I'm using Hardy
[21:44] <ikonia> infbliss hardy is discussed in #ubuntu+1
[21:44] <LiveCDuser> pidgin one
[21:44] <luka> no
[21:44] <LiveCDuser>  does any one know the password for LIVE CD 6.06.. I need to use Sudo on live cd...
[21:44] <ikonia> LiveCDuser: there isn't a password
[21:44] <Naosu> Hey Guys I got a Super hard question: I Got 3 laptops next to me, 2 with out optical drives and no os, and one fully functional laptop running Fedora Core and ubuntu, is there any easy way to install fully configured ubuntu for ither the 2 old optical-less laptops? Ubuntu 7.10. =) thanks
[21:44] <cabrioleur> luka, usually it's located around the touchpad, or fn button + one of the f buttons.
[21:44] <LiveCDuser> really?
[21:44] <genii> LiveCDuser: Enter key
[21:44] <Malachi> joliver: You need the key from the source of the third party.
[21:44] <LiveCDuser> ok
[21:45] <LiveCDuser> Thanks
[21:45] <cabrioleur> luka, is it a laptop?
[21:45] <Sh4wn> Hi
[21:45] <ikonia> NastyAccident: netboot, kickstart and oem script, any of those methods
[21:45] <luka> yes
[21:45] <cabrioleur> luka, stupid question. What laptop?
[21:45] <Sh4wn> I have a little problem with my Sony Plug n Play mp3 player :)
[21:45] <Sh4wn> when I connect it
[21:45] <NastyAccident> ikonia, ?
[21:45] <luka> web boy
[21:45] <luka> old one
[21:45] <luka> :)
[21:45] <ikonia> NastyAccident: sorry sorry sorry
[21:45] <Sh4wn> it looks like it does nothing
[21:45] <Sh4wn> but
[21:45] <ikonia> Naosu netboot, kickstart and oem script, any of those methods
[21:45] <luka> gericom
[21:45] <sarthor> https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/index.html here i only can find LDap server, i am searching for pppoe server help, is there any help on this page, i am unable to fine.
[21:45] <Sh4wn> Ubuntu does recognise something is connected
[21:46] <sarthor> find*
[21:46] <egc> hey guys, what's the name of the common IDE for C?
[21:46] <ikonia> Sh4wn: doesn't sony use propriaty codec/install method
[21:46] <linkmaster03> What is the terminal command to reinstall a Synaptic package?
[21:46] <ikonia> egc: eclipse ?
[21:46] <Daisuke_Ido> egc, anjuta?
[21:46] <Sh4wn> because when I mount /dev/sdf1 (the connected device) manually, I can browse all files
[21:46] <Cahan> egc, geany
[21:46] <balzac> wow, firestarter was easy
[21:46] <C_Kode> egc vi!
[21:46] <ikonia> Sh4wn: and ?
[21:46] <Naosu> iKonia: I don't know how to netboot or kickstart, and the other laptops do not have any os. I am very bio's illiterate.
[21:46] <Sh4wn> ikonia
[21:46] <Sh4wn> the problem is
[21:46] <Sh4wn> I can only browse
[21:47] <egc> C_Kode: more IDE-ish than that :)
[21:47] <Sh4wn> no editting
[21:47] <FloodBot2> Sh4wn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:47] <ikonia> Naosu: there are guides on https://help.ubuntu.com
[21:47] <balzac> ok, time to be productive. thanks for the help. bye.
[21:47] <egc> thanks all
[21:47] <Gralco> where do i get a mentor for becoming a MOTU?
[21:47] <ikonia> Sh4wn: hence why I asked if sony used propriay stuff on it's magic gate stuff
[21:47] <egc> i was looking for syntax-highlighting
[21:47] <egc> or coloring
[21:47] <Sh4wn> well the Sony does support plug n play
[21:47] <luka> how do I find out if there is possibility option to turn off touchpad
[21:47] <ikonia> Sh4wn: plug and play is detection
[21:47] <ikonia> Sh4wn: not drag and drop
[21:47] <Sh4wn> no sonicstage is needed
[21:47] <zvacet>         Gralco : try on MOTU chanal
[21:48] <Sh4wn> and it did work on Gutsy :P
[21:48] <Dgro> BB
[21:48] <ikonia> Sh4wn: what file system is on the sony?
[21:48] <Baby_Shambl3s> how do i extract a tar.bz2 file?
[21:48] <ikonia> Baby_Shambl3s: tar jxvf
[21:48] <Sh4wn> I used vfat to browse it
[21:48] <C_Kode> Baby_Shambl3s: tar -zjf I believe
[21:48] <Naosu> iKonia: I was Aiming at just installing ubuntu on the system and then just do a reinstall is possable directly off the laptop
[21:48] <C_Kode> er jxf
[21:48] <linkmaster03> What is the terminal command to reinstall a Synaptic package?
[21:49] <zvacet> Baby_Shambl3s : tar jzvf filetat.bz2
[21:49] <Sh4wn> linkmaster03 reinstall?
[21:49] <ikonia> Sh4wn: ok, so you should be able to write to it using sudo
[21:49] <Malachi> linkmaster: sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[21:49] <ikonia> zvacet: not z
[21:49] <ikonia> Baby_Shambl3s: tar jxvf
[21:49] <linkmaster03> Malachi: Thank you
[21:49] <pschorf> ikonia: I forgot to say that i'm not using a makefile, I'm only compiling a source file for a homework assignment and didn't bother
[21:49] <gribouille> I installed the rc, and I already found a problem
[21:49] <sachael> hi, guys
[21:49] <ikonia> pschorf: no problem, clear the cache then
[21:50] <linkmaster03> #ubuntu+1 gribouille
[21:50] <Sh4wn> ikonia ok, ill try it :)
[21:50] <pschorf> ikonia: how do I do that?
[21:50] <zvacet> ikonia : You are right.My mistake!
[21:50] <Baby_Shambl3s> ikonia, C_Kode, zvacet: thanx
[21:50] <rsids1> ikonia: Yeah I know it's a drag, I've tried before, without any luck
[21:50] <duaneb> hey people
[21:50] <Gralco> zvacet : can you give the the URL for the MOTU channel for a mentor?
[21:50] <duaneb> how can I get mac os x-type font rendering?
[21:50] <sachael> im trying to install ubuntu on a friends laptop but we got errors while loading
[21:51] <Malachi> duaneb: System > Preferences > Appearance
[21:51] <Sh4wn> ikonia, yeah thanks :) it works now. But do you have any idea why it does not automatically mount?
[21:51] <sachael> displays a prompt with "(initram)" or something
[21:51] <duaneb> Ubuntu's has no definition.... all the fonts are much too slight
[21:51] <Mercuree> Hi people. I want to install sugarcrm on my ubuntu linux server installation (hoary hedgehog) in order to do so I have started installing apache (apt-get install apache2) it installs some required packages then asks if I want to delete my kernel?
[21:51] <Malachi> duaneb: Look in the Font tab. But it's not like OS X
[21:51] <zvacet> Baby_Shambl3s : sudo apt-get install p7zip p7zip-full
[21:51] <BugFreeWin> hello!
[21:51] <daemon3> That's no fiar: no Mac4Lin icons for KDE. :(
[21:51] <mut80r> sachael: I get that too with 7.04; tty job control is turned off. try searching at the forums. 7.10 works however.
[21:51] <LebLinux> Hello, how do I tell the update-manager to upgrade from Gutsy to Hardy from the Hardy Alt CD?
[21:51] <Malachi> duaneb: Play around with the different options there.
[21:51] <zvacet> Baby_Shambl3s  :right click on archive and select unpack here
[21:51] <pschorf> ikonia: how do I clear the cache?
[21:51] <sachael> mut80r, im trying with 8.04
[21:51] <duaneb> Malachi, I already have. The fonts are still way too slight.
[21:51] <duaneb> Malachi, I have
[21:52] <Mercuree> i said no. now, however, there are a ton of unmet dependencies that refuse to install either by using install -f or install (packagename) could someone give me some ponters please?
[21:52] <duaneb> I was hoping people here would have extra knowledge they would give...
[21:52] <mut80r> oo my bad. for 8.04 support see  #ubuntu+1
[21:52] <Bittt> ubuntu-es
[21:52] <Dgro> Hi
[21:52] <Daisuke_Ido> only 1425, i really expected a better turnout
[21:52] <Mercuree> duaneb be patient.
[21:53] <zvacet> Mercuree : maybe you have to install them like sudo apt-get install dep1 dep2 dep3
[21:53] <Mercuree> ah. thanks zvacet
[21:53] <Mercuree> i will try that
[21:53] <crookshanks> if i want to install hardy's version of git on my gutsy machine, what's the best way to do that?
[21:53] <LebLinux> Hello, how do I tell the update-manager to upgrade from Gutsy to Hardy from the Hardy Alt CD?
[21:53] <crookshanks> do i have to use prevu?
[21:53] <zvacet> Mercuree : you can thak me if it work
[21:54] <Malachi> duaneb: http://www.ubuntutips.net/node/35 and http://www.ubuntutips.net/node/10 are the only things I can tell you.
[21:54] <Malachi> LebLinux: One minute, I know.
[21:54] <Mercuree> hmm it now gives me dependencies for the dependency
[21:54] <Mercuree> hehe
[21:54] <LebLinux> ;>
[21:54] <tovare> join #ubuntu-release-party
[21:54] <Mercuree> I was just getting the hang of gentoo self installed. went for ubuntu coz ithough it was easier
[21:54] <Malachi> LebLinux: Put the CD in and press Alt+F2, then type gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[21:54] <duaneb> ahh, turning hinting off helps
[21:54] <Mercuree> seems not :)
[21:55] <Baby_Shambl3s> zvacet: no point the command works
[21:55] <LebLinux> Malachi: thank you!
[21:55] <balgarath> Looking at building a desktop to run Ubuntu on...anyone recommend what hardware I should go for/stay away from?
[21:55] <zvacet> Mercuree : so called dependencie hell  try with last one
[21:55] <Malachi> LebLinux: Mhmm.
[21:55] <egc> anjuta seems to suffice
[21:55] <fation_linuX> hello  everyone
[21:55] <fation_linuX> ;)
[21:55] <LebLinux> Malachi: are you sure?
[21:55] <Gralco> where do i go to get a mentor to help me become a MOTU?
[21:56] <mwe> fation_linuX, hello
[21:56] <spsneo> whats the release date of ubuntu hardy
[21:56] <Malachi> LebLinux: Pretty sure. Make sure the CD is and shoes on the desktop.
[21:56] <Starnestommy> spsneo: tomorrow
[21:56] <fation_linuX> mwe :)
[21:56] <zvacet> Baby_Shambl3s : maybe sometimes is easier to just click
[21:56] <rwycuff> spsneo:tomorrow sometime
[21:56] <Malachi> Then: gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[21:56] <whiteeagle> please please tell me exactly which QT packages do I need to install so I can make opera's menus look better now (like a qt app), because i uninentionally removed them
[21:56] <Malachi> LebLinux: If you have multiple CD roms it may be different
[21:56] <mut80r> gotta go. cya
[21:56] <spsneo> my ubuntu 8.04 beta version crashes so many times
[21:56] <Dgro> I need help getting plugins and downloads on Ubuntu's Dapper Dan
[21:57] <LebLinux> Malachi: Nah am on the laptop 1 cd
[21:57] <whiteeagle> so I need the qt libraries
[21:57] <mwe> spsneo, what do you mean ubuntu crashes? ;)
[21:57] <whiteeagle> i don't know which packages do I need to install
[21:57] <Malachi> LebLinux: Does it recognize the alternate CD?
[21:57] <LebLinux> Malachi: then how do you check if the version is Hardy? anything in /etc/ ?
[21:57] <whiteeagle> because I am a gnome user
[21:57] <whiteeagle> and I use some qt apps
[21:57] <Pici> !hardy
[21:57] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[21:57] <whiteeagle> and they look ugly
[21:57] <LebLinux> Malachi: I will do that tomorrow, not now.
[21:57] <ksal> hi
[21:57] <Malachi> LebLinux: System > Administration > System Monitor
[21:57] <Malachi> LebLinux: First tab
[21:57] <spsneo> i mean xorg crashes
[21:58] <ksal> i've got such a problem that don't have option to shutdown i restart my computer in gnome
[21:58] <zvacet> whiteeagle : try in synaptic right click on Opera ans see if something is recommended for install
[21:58] <LebLinux> Malachi: no command lines?
[21:58] <hacknslash> LebLinux, cat /etc/issue
[21:58] <Malachi> Or that.
[21:58] <Malachi> :]
[21:58] <mwe> whiteeagle, I believe you can change theme and what not
[21:58] <LebLinux> hacknslash: Thank you, Malachi Thank you!
[21:58] <ksal> i can logout, hibernate, etc, but there's missing option of shutdown and restart
[21:58] <Daisuke_Ido> ksal, is kdm your display manager?
[21:58] <ksal> any ideas?
[21:58] <LebLinux> Malachi: Also I can upgrade om boot time right?
[21:58] <ksal> yes
[21:58] <Daisuke_Ido> ksal, that's why
[21:58] <Malachi> LebLinux: Mhmm!
[21:58] <ksal> geez
[21:58] <ksal> how can i fast change it?
[21:58] <Daisuke_Ido> ksal, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[21:58] <LebLinux> Malachi: means yes.
[21:58] <ksal> thanks
[21:58] <Daisuke_Ido> and select gdm as your default display manager
[21:59] <Daisuke_Ido> changes won't be apparent until you restart X
[21:59] <Malachi> LebLinux: Oh, yes. Sorry. Forget I'm not in casual IRC
[21:59] <Mercuree> zvacet : http://pastebin.ch/183 this is what happens when I do what you suggest. Unless I am doing it wrong?
[21:59] <ksal> thanks ^^
[21:59] <LebLinux> thanks.
[21:59] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome :)
[21:59] <mwe> Daisuke_Ido, kdm can't reboot etc?
[21:59] <Daisuke_Ido> mwe, it can, but it's integrated into kde
[21:59] <Mercuree> zvacet : http://pastebin.ch/183 this is what happens when I do what you suggest. Unless I am doing it wrong?
[21:59] <jc_denton> !hardy
[21:59] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[21:59] <whiteeagle> please tell me which libraries do I need for qt apps to look properly
[22:00] <Mercuree> apologies for douple post. confused myself there. Im bone tired.
[22:00] <Daisuke_Ido> so you would have the shutdown and reboot options in kde, but not gnome.  gdm is vice versa, it's more integrated with gnome
[22:00] <balgarath> Looking at building a desktop...anyone recommend what hardware I should go for/stay away from?
[22:00] <Malachi> whiteeagle: Properly?  I use gdm but kde as my DE and it can reboot etc
[22:00] <athena> hi everyone, i need some help about mirrors, i wrote at ubuntu-mirrors channel but i have no answer
[22:00] <Malachi> whiteeagle: Oh, heh. qtconfig-qt4 qtconfig-qt3 and/or kcontrol
[22:00] <Daisuke_Ido> then it may just be a limitation of kdm
[22:01] <athena> i made a mistake when writing the link of my mirror at launchpad
[22:01] <Bones> join #ubuntu-uk
[22:01] <mwe> Daisuke_Ido, perhaps
[22:01] <athena> now i corrected it but when will it be ok in downloading list?
[22:01] <Cygoku> network problem here
[22:01] <Cygoku> anyone thinks he can help ?
[22:01] <Daisuke_Ido> i stick to gdm myself
[22:01] <mwe> Daisuke_Ido, I have bad experiences with kdm in general
[22:01] <zvacet> Mercuree I think you don´t have all repos open
[22:02] <Daisuke_Ido> mwe, can't say i blame you
[22:02] <zvacet> 	Mercuree : is that Dapper
[22:02] <whiteeagle> faster anyone, I have problems with my network connection
[22:02] <Mercuree> hoary
[22:02] <Cygoku> no one helps in network problem ?
[22:02] <Daisuke_Ido> o_O
[22:02] <Daisuke_Ido> hoary?
[22:02] <Malachi>  whiteeagle: Oh, heh. qtconfig-qt4 qtconfig-qt3 and/or kcontrol
[22:02] <whiteeagle> Malachi: the menus look ugly
[22:02] <mwe> Daisuke_Ido, maybe gdm is simply more mature
[22:02] <Mercuree> yeah. hoeary hedgehog
[22:02] <Daisuke_Ido> Mercuree, you're kidding, right?
[22:02] <Mercuree> nope
[22:02] <Mercuree> lol
[22:02] <Mercuree> Its all ive got.
[22:02] <Daisuke_Ido> hoary hasn't been supported for quite a while
[22:02] <zvacet> Mercuree: 	Hoary is not supported anymore
[22:02] <Cygoku> Damn.
[22:03] <Mercuree> how much bandwidth would an upgrade suck?
[22:03] <mwe> Cygoku, you're on hoary as well?
[22:03] <Malachi> Mercuree: From Hoary? You'd be up all night.
[22:03] <Mercuree> hehe
[22:03] <Mercuree> damn
[22:03] <Cygoku> I am under Hardy Heron yes.
[22:03] <Mercuree> shouldve stuck with gentoo
[22:03] <hacknslash> Cygoku, what exactly is your problem
[22:03] <Pici> Cygoku: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[22:04] <Pici> Hoary is not Hardy Heron
[22:04] <Mercuree> unfortunately that was an all nighter too
[22:04] <mwe> Mercuree, I don't think you can upgrade to current from hoary and expect it to work
[22:04] <Daisuke_Ido> Mercuree, your best bet is to back up your /home/user directory and install a newer version
[22:04] <Cygoku> My laptop is using gutsy, my desktop hardy ... but they can't see each other on the netowkr
[22:04] <Daisuke_Ido> Bob_Sagot, that should be an 'e'
[22:04] <pschorf> ikonia: I've tried restarting my computer, still can't get the gcc to catch the flags
[22:04] <Mercuree> preburned cds are impossible to come by and my connection is way too slow for download
[22:04] <Mercuree> in my town that is
[22:04] <Bob_Sagot> Daisuke_Ido: I know what the correct spelling is
[22:04] <mwe> Cygoku, it's probably not because of the fact that the versions differ
[22:04] <Mercuree> and anywhere else they are nightmarishly expensive
[22:05] <Mercuree> shipping blegh
[22:05] <Daisuke_Ido> Bob_Sagot, avoiding a C&D letter, eh? :D
[22:05] <Sh4wn> Oja
[22:05] <Sh4wn> whoo
[22:05] <Sh4wn> cool
[22:05] <Cygoku> well, everything was working fine when my desktop was on WindowsXP (until yesterday)
[22:05] <Bob_Sagot> Daisuke_Ido: quite possibly
[22:05] <Sh4wn> I didn;t knew Ubuntu played the song when you hover it in nautilus xD
[22:06] <hacknslash> Cygoku, can you ping one from the other ??
[22:06] <rwycuff> Cygoku:can you get onto the internet with both these box'a
[22:06] <spsneo> when will they start shipping ubuntu hardy cd
[22:06] <spsneo> ?
[22:06] <Mercuree> ok sudo apt-get install -f seems to be working. glibc is currently upgrading
[22:07] <Cygoku> yes both can use the internet
[22:07] <Daisuke_Ido> spsneo, congratulations, you just added two hours to the release time
[22:07] <Cygoku> and as for ping, i will need to test that when I am back home
[22:07] <Daisuke_Ido> at this rate we'll never get it :D
[22:07] <spsneo> how did i add
[22:07] <spsneo> ?
[22:07] <priman> u asked
[22:07] <spsneo> asking adds ?
[22:07] <rwycuff> Cygoku: ifconfig on laptop get its ip and go to desktop and type ping <laptop IP> and see what happens
[22:07] <Cygoku> how do I ping in ubuntu ?
[22:07] <Daisuke_Ido> Join the party! We eagerly await the release of Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, due thu. april 24 2008 | The release gets delayed by 2 hours each time someone asks when it's out
[22:08] <priman> it will add 2 hours eveytime someone asks when it comes out?
[22:08] <spsneo> how's that possible?
[22:08] <|g|> Hey People!
[22:08] <hacknslash> Cygoku, from a terminal
[22:08] <rwycuff> CygokuLping just like in windows
[22:08] <Cygoku> trought a Terminal ?
[22:08] <rwycuff> yes
[22:08] <balgarath> When does Hardy get released?
[22:08] <Daisuke_Ido> ...it's a joke :)
[22:08] <Cygoku> ping <IP_ADDRESS> ??
[22:08] <rwycuff> tomorrow
[22:08] <hacknslash> Cygoku, yes
[22:08] <Daisuke_Ido> balgarath, at this rate, 2009
[22:08] <rwycuff> Cygoku: yes
[22:08] <moralist> it will be delayed some weeks then :P
[22:08] <balgarath> releasetime =+ 120 :)
[22:08] <|g|> In Firefox, I would like to replace GNU-JAVA with SUN-Java. Any ideas how?
[22:08] <zvacet>         Mercuree :                            https://shipit.ubuntu.com/        It is free
[22:08] <Daisuke_Ido> which means that maybe JUST MAYBE we can get amarok <IP_ADDRESS> backported to gutsy
[22:09] <_alf_> is hardy being released at a given time tomorrow? like midnight gmt?
[22:09] <chimp_> Is tar -t not meant to list the archives contents, because when i do it, it just pauses
[22:09] <spsneo> what is the default password for tomcat admin
[22:09] <priman> do a new version of ubuntu come every 6 months?
[22:09] <_alf_> priman: yeah
[22:09] <Mercuree> hmm i phoned the ubuntu people. they wanted money to ship it
[22:09] <Daisuke_Ido> _alf_, type /topic
[22:09] <kbrosnan> |g|: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#Java
[22:09] <Mercuree> i suppose i mustn be a cheapskate eh?
[22:09] <white_eagle> Malachi, it says it can't find those packages
[22:09] <white_eagle> qtconfig-qt3 and qtconfig-qt4
[22:09] <Daisuke_Ido> Mercuree, go to the shipit website, they don't charge
[22:09] <_alf_> haha. my apologies Daisuke_Ido
[22:10] <mrkeishii> whats better: Scream? Quanta? Blue Fish?  "<-----Web Develop Tools"
[22:10] <priman> how big are the changes? like windows' SP or like from 2k to XP to Vista
[22:10] <zvacet> Mercuree : but if you want to geting updates you have to rreplace archive.ubuntu.com  with old-releases.ubuntu.com in your source list
[22:10] <Starnestommy> priman: newer packages and more features, plus a lot of bug fixes
[22:10] <_alf_> priman: opengl accelerated xwindows is probably the most noticiable change
[22:10] <priman> are you saying that there are a lot of bugs in ubuntu?
[22:10] <mrkeishii> whats better: Scream? Quanta? Blue Fish?
[22:11] <Baby_Shambl3s> it works it works... it si alive muahahahahaha :D took freaking long with my newbness but cairo works and is transparent without compiz/beryl hahahaha
[22:11] <Starnestommy> priman: there are a few, but there aren't that many
[22:11] <priman> less than most windowses?
[22:11] <Dgro> Hi
[22:11] <strtok> anyone know if evolution supports MAPI (exchange) yet? I can't seem to find information about it on their webpage
[22:12] <Mercuree> im checking it out.
[22:12] <mikefizz> hey, i have a dell laptop with an intel integrated graphics, the compiz fusion settings worked with the live cd but do not work now that ubuntu is installed
[22:12] <Mercuree> thanks
[22:12] <balgarath> mikefizz, same problem here
[22:12] <ichat> lol - since when is windows THA standard for  comparance of  the software standards?
[22:12] <rwycuff> priman:everything has lesss bugs then windoze
[22:13] <_alf_> priman: i don't think anyone knows that
[22:13] <james91dean> hi guys
[22:13] <mikefizz> balgarath: any ideas?
[22:13] <rwycuff> hi
[22:13] <stroyan> mrkeishii:  There is a '
[22:13] <balgarath> mikefizz, which laptop?
[22:13] <mikefizz> balgarath: e1505
[22:13] <james91dean> is the official 8.04 release available to download or do i have to wait for tomorrow?
[22:13] <caexo> being i use a router firewall... for what reason would my pings be lower in ubuntu?  cool though
[22:13] <stroyan> mrkeishii:  There is a 'professional' review of those html editors at http://www.newsforge.org/feature/130601
[22:14] <mrkeishii> thanks
[22:14] <bat_> ciao come faccio ad andare nel prog italiano
[22:14] <Dgro> BB
[22:14] <james91dean> just see the release candidate on the site
[22:15] <Jaymac> james91dean: tomorrow
[22:15] <james91dean> ok
[22:15] <gribouille> is there an option to dpkg to modify the path to the package database ?
[22:15] <amol> Does anyone know why the youtube videos become laggy once I fullscreen them?
[22:15] <james91dean> just i got a windows machine here that i really want to give the finger to ;-)
[22:16] <reloop> hi guys. what settings are recommended in xorg.conf if i use compiz-fusion and ati raden hd card?
[22:16] <reloop> *radeon
[22:16] <reloop> amol could be the resolution
[22:16] <balgarath> mikefizz, I disabled xserver-xgl, and reinstalled drivers with Envy...compiz works but I have to turn it off if I want to watch a video...and also, I get little white bars on the screen at random sometimes
[22:16] <chimp_> What sort of space do you recon is resonable to set aside to use for testing other distros or alpha/beta releases of ubuntu
[22:16] <ad> partyyyyyyyyy
[22:16] <reloop> or no hardware support from your graphics card for displaying fullscreen video..
[22:16] <reloop> im just guessing :)
[22:16] <james91dean> 20gb?
[22:17] <amol> Hmm...I'm at 1280x1024. It worked perfectly for me on Windows.
[22:17] <Daisuke_Ido> balgarath, well i see one mistake right there
[22:17] <balgarath> mikefizz, some info here...it should apply to your laptop also; http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2008/04/overview-of-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron-on.html
[22:17] <pschorf> I'm having a problem with gcc...if I run "gcc 1-1.c", it doesn't use my CFLAGS, but if I type "gcc $CFLAGS 1-1.c", it works
[22:17] <Daisuke_Ido> you used envy
[22:17] <reloop> amol which praphics card you use? which java which flash?
[22:17] <reloop> *graphic
[22:17] <balgarath> Daisuke_Ido, was recommended by someone else that knows more than me and has the same laptop :)  what do you suggest?
[22:17] <james91dean> just saw the text on the top of the forum, sorry for asking
[22:18] <llin-ubuntu> I have 6 different distros of linux, I want to use BOINC but is there any way to have each distro's BOINC work on the same project, instead of each having their own?
[22:18] <mikefizz> balgarath, that page is talking about an ati card, mine uses an intel...
[22:18] <Daisuke_Ido> !ati | balgarath
[22:18] <ubotu> balgarath: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:18] <balgarath> Daisuke_Ido, thanks
[22:19] <schidamb> anyone installed AIM on ubuntu, or can I do apt-get to get AIM on ubuntu
[22:19] <mikefizz> balgarath its a mobile 945gm
[22:19] <Daisuke_Ido> aim does not exist
[22:19] <balgarath> mikefizz, ahh, I thought the 1505's were ATI's also...
[22:19] <balgarath> schidamb, www.meebo.com
[22:19] <mikefizz> schidamb, go get pidgin
[22:19] <Daisuke_Ido> BUT, you already have pidgin :)
[22:19] <llin-ubuntu> shidamb use pidgin instead
[22:19] <balgarath> or pidgin :)
[22:19] <evilbug> can anyone help me compile the new pidgin?
[22:19] <Daisuke_Ido> pidgin is definitely a better bet than trying to run a native client through wine or something odd like that
[22:19] <Ethan> Topic >> "No. we don't know exactly the time when 8.04 will be released."
[22:19] <Ethan> ok, bye :D
[22:19] <AutoMatriX> hi folks, which progran should I use to sync my cellular phone (a Nokia6610)  with evolution ?
[22:20] <llin-ubuntu> and aMSN has webcam support i believe (not a user but I have heard)
[22:20] <Mercuree> i fixed it! yay!
[22:20] <schidamb> is pidgin installed already, or I've to install it
[22:20] <|g|> The Ubuntu page says "Make a symbolic link to libjavaplugin_oji.so in your Mozilla Plugins directory" - but where is my "mozilla plugins directory"?
[22:20] <mikefizz> amsn does work with webcams
[22:20] <llin-ubuntu> go to Apps/Internet click pidgin
[22:20]  * AutoMatriX precises it should be via IRDA
[22:20] <llin-ubuntu> ubuntu installs pidgin when you install
[22:20] <rwycuff> schidamb: lookin your internet apps if its not there apt-get install pidgin
[22:21] <evilbug> llin-ubuntu- i have pidgin installed,i jsut want to update it.
[22:21] <Kron> hej
[22:21] <llin-ubuntu> apt-get install pidgin, will get the latest version
[22:22] <sileni> hello http://invaleed.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/install-bcm94311mcg-wlan-mini-pci-ubuntu-710/ , im trying to use that , but im using live cd cause i want to make sure wireless works before i install. is there a way to do that tutorial without rebooting?
[22:22] <Kron> I know u dont know exactly when 8.04 airs. But will it air at morning or at night
[22:22] <Seveas> Kron, we don't know
[22:22] <Seveas> !isitout | Kron
[22:22] <ubotu> Kron: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.
[22:23] <zvacet>   evilbug :               add to your source list          deb http://ubuntu.org.ua/ getdeb/
[22:23] <llin-ubuntu> Does anyone know how to have BOINC run on multipal linux distros and use the same project instead of each distro/partition using it's own project (and expiring)
[22:23] <sofakos> hey yu, angels of peace. Løv ju ål!
[22:23] <|g|> Anybody knows how to disable the GNU Java plugin in Firefox?
[22:23] <sofakos> i want new buntu
[22:23] <sofakos> where are you?
[22:24] <lwizardl> hi
[22:24] <penguin> anybody knows what is the time of 8.04 release? Cause my local time (+3 GMT) is Apr 24 01:23 :)
[22:24] <sofakos> kom on, you people!
[22:24] <zvacet> sofakos : download it tomorow
[22:24] <simonft2> i've asked this before, but i am still uncear, is it or is it not possible to install openoffice on ubuntu
[22:24] <Seveas> !isitout | sofakos
[22:24] <ubotu> sofakos: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.
[22:24] <lwizardl> is there a way I can force my nvidia card to adjust for overscan on my hdtv?
[22:24] <harry> hai
[22:25] <moonchild> hey open source friends
[22:25] <ichat> offcaurse Openoffice.org runs on ubuntu
[22:25] <simonft2> sorry
[22:25] <Wesmokeditall> anyone have any info on a pinncacle hdtv usb ? ubuntu gutsy
[22:25] <simonft2> on a ppc
[22:25] <sofakos> zvacet: why not today?
[22:25] <simonft2> with ubuntu
[22:25] <Kron> What is the name of the company developing Ubuntu? I've forgot XD
[22:25] <zvacet> sofakos Because it is still RC
[22:25] <Seveas> Kron, canonical
[22:25] <moonchild> ive a simple question when i upgrade with the new dev release i can just patch up later on to the public release?
[22:25] <Kron> thanks
[22:25] <laeg> !daa
[22:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about daa - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:25] <Seveas> moonchild, yes
[22:26] <sofakos> hei moonchild open butt friend. U like me?
[22:26] <laeg> does anyone know how i can mount a .daa file in ubuntu?
[22:26] <notsniw__> org
[22:26] <Danikar> laeg: u have to convert it to an iso
[22:26] <moonchild> ok so it wont need to download the full public release right?
[22:26] <simonft2> does anybody here know if you can run openoffice.org on a ppc with ubnuntu
[22:26] <laeg> Danikar: can you recommend a method to do that?
[22:26] <Seveas> moonchild, correct
[22:26] <evilbug> it didn't work,my pidgin still stays at v. 2.2.1
[22:27] <moonchild> thanks
[22:27] <Seveas> simonft2, you can
[22:27] <simonft2> how
[22:27] <Kron> Can i install 8.04 whitout having too use a cd?  I am configuring my sound and I do not want to restart
[22:27] <Seveas> simonft2, install ubuntu, it comes with OOo by default
[22:27] <simonft2> Seveas: how?
[22:27] <simonft2> but not on a ppc
[22:27] <Danikar> laeg: http://www.poweriso.com/download.htm
[22:27] <harry> anyone know if i can get win tv to work with wine on ubuntu
[22:27] <moonchild> ubuntu <3
[22:27] <moonchild> cya
[22:27] <Wesmokeditall> ubuntu child
[22:27] <Wesmokeditall> :D
[22:27] <Danikar> laeg: Go to poweriso for linux
[22:27] <laeg> Danikar: ty
[22:27] <zvacet> evilbug : did you add line to your source list and sava it afte that?    sudo apt-get update
[22:28] <darren_> hi I am trying to have dual moniters with diffrent res on each but i only have 800x600@60 on both moniters
[22:28] <simonft2> Seveas: im on ubuntu and it does not have it installed
[22:28] <ichat> afaik there is no  ppc native build to openoffice.org
[22:28] <Moe|Joe> yo
[22:28] <ichat> YET
[22:28] <|g|> I want to use SUN-Java in Firefox instead of GNU-Java. I put a link to the sun .so file in ~/.mozilla/plugins/ but FF still uses GNU-Java. How can I change that?
[22:28] <evilbug> zvacet- i did,nothing.
[22:28] <Moe|Joe> is there an eta for wen new ubuntu is released?
[22:28] <RichW> I have a computer called richiie-laptop... i cant ping its name... ping: unknown host richie-laptop but i can ping its IP address... I have samba server.. name server... and neither have helped to fix this.
[22:28] <Zelta> !party | Moe|Joe
[22:28] <ubotu> Moe|Joe: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Hardy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseParties
[22:28] <evilbug> Moe|Joe- 1 day
[22:28] <RichW> Any ideas?
[22:28] <Seveas> simonft2, it came with ooo on mine - I used hardy though
[22:28] <Lardarse> Moe|Joe: sometime int he next 26 hours
[22:28] <amol> I just started using Ubuntu. It works great -- the only problem is youtube videos seem to slow down in full-screen mode. Any way to fix this?
[22:28] <Seveas> simonft2, anyway, you can install it with apt-get
[22:28] <simonft2> what do you type?
[22:29] <one_tao> darren: is your video card configured or are you using a generic driver
[22:29] <Lardarse> !list openoffice
[22:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about list openoffice - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:29] <Lardarse> !info openoffice
[22:29] <ubotu> Package openoffice does not exist in gutsy
[22:29] <darren_> using nvidia restriced driver
[22:29] <Lardarse> !info openoffice-meta
[22:29] <ubotu> Package openoffice-meta does not exist in gutsy
[22:29] <Seveas> simonft2, actually, looks like only the core comes with it, hang on
[22:29] <Lardarse> ehh... what's the package anme?
[22:29] <Kron> Which program is recommended to burn 8.04 with?
[22:29] <Danikar> !openoffice
[22:29] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[22:30] <Lardarse> Kron: which OS are you using?
[22:30] <Kron> guess?
[22:30] <zvacet> evilbug : I know that wored.Maybe server is down or something else. sudo apt-get upgrade         maybe
[22:30] <Kron> UBUNTU
[22:30] <CyberCod> wow... 1300+ people in here!   Never seen it so full
[22:30] <Daisuke_Ido> Kron, right-click on the iso in nautilus and choose to burn to disc
[22:30] <axord> Nearly 1400
[22:30] <MiniToe> CyberCod: can a channel really get full? :)
[22:30] <Seveas> simonft2, sudo with apt-get install openoffice.org
[22:30] <ichat> simonft2:  -    you wanted it on  a  - powerpc  ???
[22:30] <harry> anyone know if i can get win tv to work with wine on ubuntu?
[22:30] <Daisuke_Ido> was over 1400 a bit ago
[22:30] <simonft2> yes
[22:31] <pvalley> we are getting ready to upgrade
[22:31] <evilbug> zvacet- non of that worked,it upgraded everything BUT pidgin.
[22:31] <CyberCod> MiniToe: if the server goes down, we will have our answer ;)
[22:31] <white_eagle> can you tell me the *EXACTLY* which packages do I need to install so opera's menus to look KDE'ish again, I removed some QT libraries and I don't know which I need to reinstall now...
[22:31] <simonft2> simon@simon-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[22:31] <simonft2> [sudo] password for simon:
[22:31] <simonft2> Reading package lists... Done
[22:31] <simonft2> Building dependency tree
[22:31] <simonft2> Reading state information... Done
[22:31] <FloodBot2> simonft2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:31] <simonft2> Package openoffice.org is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[22:31] <Kron> why nautilus?
[22:31] <white_eagle> those someone in here told me don't exist
[22:31] <MiniToe> CyberCod: hah, yeah, i suppose :)
[22:31] <Seveas> simonft2, your /etc/apt/sources.list is broken
[22:31] <Daisuke_Ido> Kron, because it's the default file manager and that's the quickest way to do it
[22:31] <simonft2> how do i fix it?
[22:31] <Lardarse> Kron: there is a wiki page about the software to use... i don't remember where it is
[22:31] <Seveas> simonft2, put it on the pastebin
[22:32] <CyberCod> so it goes up tonite?  Midnight?   What time zone?  My net gets shut off tomorrow
[22:32] <james91dean> nite guys, party tomorrow!
[22:32] <Kron> brasero maybe?
[22:32] <Seveas> !isitout | CyberCod
[22:32] <ubotu> CyberCod: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.
[22:32] <simonft2> ok
[22:32] <simonft2> how do i fix it?
[22:32] <Daisuke_Ido> sure, you could use brasero, but i just told you the easiest way to do it...
[22:32] <CyberCod> no news of it being late though?
[22:32] <laeg> how can i install poweriso-1.2.tar.gz
[22:32] <Kron> Why should i burn in nautilus?
[22:32] <hacknslash> Kron, i agree with Daisuke_Ido
[22:32] <simonft2> how do i fix it?
[22:33] <laeg> there are no install instructions on the site
[22:33] <Seveas> simonft2, I told you, put it on the pastebin
[22:33] <CyberCod> Kron, its the same iso burnt to the same blank disk... whatever makes best sense to you is easiest way
[22:33] <Daisuke_Ido> Kron, because, as i just said, it's the quickest and easiest way to do it, you asked, you got an answer, why argue?
[22:33] <simonft2> put what in the paste bin?
[22:33] <Kron> But Nautilus is root?
[22:33] <Seveas> simonft2, your /etc/apt/sources.list is broken <------ that
[22:33] <Daisuke_Ido> no it isn't
[22:33] <a-v> hey, it's 24th April here, expect pre-release flood soon to start :)
[22:33] <Kron> ain't it?
[22:33] <Daisuke_Ido> when you open a file manager?  that's nautilus
[22:33] <darren_> i wes thinking of installing the nvidia drivers off the nvidia sight but i can't figure how to install them
[22:34] <one_tao> laeg, start by doing: sudo tar zxf poweriso <tab> <enter>
[22:34] <Daisuke_Ido> !nautilus | Kron
[22:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:34] <Daisuke_Ido> blah
[22:34] <laeg> one_tao: ty
[22:34] <Kron> Will nautilus recommend any program for me?
[22:34] <simonft2> simon@simon-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[22:34] <simonft2> [sudo] password for simon:
[22:34] <simonft2> Reading package lists... Done
[22:34] <simonft2> Building dependency tree
[22:34] <simonft2> Reading state information... Done
[22:34] <simonft2> Package openoffice.org is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[22:34] <FloodBot2> simonft2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:34] <CyberCod> Man its going to be one helluva .torrent
[22:34] <devin_> anyone using firefox3 - beta 5?
[22:34] <Daisuke_Ido> simon just doesn't get it.
[22:34] <Daisuke_Ido> Kron, no, it will burn it itself
[22:34] <white_eagle> !bot
[22:34] <balgarath> devin_, yeah
[22:34] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[22:35] <Kron> i dont get it...
[22:35] <one_tao> laeg, then cd to the diretory that has been created and there should be a 'README' or some instructions in that new directory
[22:35] <Daisuke_Ido> put a blank disc in, open your filemanager and go to where you saved the iso, right click the iso, and choose "burn to disc"
[22:35] <Daisuke_Ido> that's all there is to it
[22:35] <daysleepr> hello all, i'm about to put an order in for a server... looking to run 6.06 LTS... i'm looking at an intel quad core processor
[22:35] <Daisuke_Ido> it's really quite simple
[22:35] <devin_> balgarath do your bookmarks show up in the address bar?
[22:35] <Seveas> daysleepr, why not 8.04 lts?
[22:35] <daysleepr> can't find processors on the approved hardware list, just wondering if anyone has had good/bad luck with dual/quads
[22:35] <daysleepr> hmmm... didn't see it?
[22:35] <Baldurrognolo> ariciao .. :D perchè montando gli hd, non mi rimangono sulla scrivania? al riavvio non ci sono + sulla scrivania!
[22:35] <simonft2> im really sorry, i thought i copied the link
[22:35] <mikefizz> when i go into standby mode on my e1505 laptop i cant come back out
[22:35] <Kron> how do i open  Nautilus?
[22:35] <Seveas> daysleepr, it'll be released in the next 24 hours :)
[22:35] <one_tao> daysleeper, wait til tomorrow and dl 8.04 LTS
[22:35] <pat_> I have a question, when i go to windows under the preferences menu it says Window manager "compiz" has not registered a configuration tool... how can i fix that?
[22:36] <simonft2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64142/
[22:36] <CyberCod> I've installed on a few duals, haven't had any issues
[22:36] <simonft2> is that better?
[22:36] <daysleepr> i don't see 8.04LTS?
[22:36] <iRelinquish> pat_ sudo apt-get install ccsm
[22:36] <daysleepr> ooooooooooh
[22:36] <CyberCod> none of em were mine though :(
[22:36] <pat_> iRelinquish: thx
[22:36] <Daisuke_Ido> Kron, go to Places.  anything in there will open Nautilus (nautilus is the default file manager in Ubuntu)
[22:36] <daysleepr>  /tomorrow/
[22:36] <balgarath> devin_, yeah, but lots of other sites I've been to show up in it too...it doesn't show a list of my booksmarks
[22:36] <one_tao> daysleeper - it is an 'LTS'
[22:36] <balgarath> *bookmarks
[22:36] <zvacet>    evilbug :                   download it from here ( all packages) http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=pidgin
[22:36] <pvalley> kron click on places -->home
[22:36] <Daisuke_Ido> why do i feel like i'm running around in circles?
[22:36] <Seveas> daysleepr, dual/quadcores work fine. As do multiple real cpu's, or multiple multicore ones :)
[22:36] <amrik> what does an LTS mean for a server edition?
[22:36] <ShmooliKipod> hello :)
[22:36] <pvalley> you will be there
[22:36] <darren_> cause we alwas do
[22:36] <daysleepr> long term support?
[22:36] <darren_> lol
[22:36] <one_tao> first 'LTS' in a while
[22:36] <Daisuke_Ido> amrik, it's supported for 5 years
[22:36] <ShmooliKipod> Is it out yet ?
[22:36] <white_eagle> I suppose I am being annoying for asking this the 100 time, but does no one know the answer? can you tell me the *EXACTLY* which packages do I need to install so opera's menus to look KDE'ish again, I removed some QT libraries and I don't know which I need to reinstall now...
[22:36] <Seveas> simonft2, that's not your sources.list.
[22:37] <Kron> what is LTS?
[22:37] <Seveas> !isitout | ShmooliKipod
[22:37] <ubotu> ShmooliKipod: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.
[22:37] <Seveas> !lts | Kron
[22:37] <ubotu> Kron: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[22:37] <amrik> Oh I see
[22:37] <Kron> k
[22:37] <guitarthrasher> hey guys. quick question.
[22:37] <Kron> whats the different between server and deskop?
[22:37] <daysleepr> well... back to my original question, i guess.... anybody play w/ quad / duals on ubuntu?
[22:37] <white_eagle> I removed everything KDE connected yesterday, but I still want to use some apps with native QT menus in gnome
[22:37] <Seveas> Kron, server doesn't come with a desktop environment :)
[22:37] <white_eagle> like opera
[22:37] <daysleepr> duals work fine, from what i can tell
[22:37] <daysleepr> but cant find much on quads......
[22:37] <Seveas> daysleepr, dual/quadcores work fine. As do multiple real cpu's, or multiple multicore ones :)
[22:37] <one_tao> server is all text
[22:38] <hacknslash> guitarthrasher, ask away
[22:38] <simonft2> where is the source list again?
[22:38] <laeg> one_tao: it only extracts an .exe file, and not from the command you gave me only if i extract it from the gui.
[22:38] <simonft2> im really sorry
[22:38] <guitarthrasher> if you downloaded kde for ubuntu with the apt-get command, can you remove it with sudo apt-get uninstall kubuntu-desktop?
[22:38] <daysleepr> seveas, that sounds about right...
[22:38] <Kron> Is it fun to use server?
[22:38] <Starnestommy> simonft2: /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:38] <daysleepr> just didn't want to jump into a $$$$ server without double checking
[22:38] <daysleepr> so wow... a new LTS, huh?
[22:38] <Daisuke_Ido> yep
[22:38] <daysleepr> damn, i just rebuilt a server with 6.06LTS
[22:38] <laeg> one_tao: i definitely downloaded from the power iso linux version link http://www.poweriso.com/download.htm
[22:38] <Seveas> Kron, depends on what you call fun. I think it's a lot of fun but I'm a professional sysadmin ;)
[22:38] <CyberCod> guitarthrasher: I think that just removes the meta package, not the individual ones
[22:38] <one_tao> guitarthrasher: isn't that atp-get 'remove' ?
[22:39] <zvacet> white_eagle :go in synaptic >file tab>history and you will find all packages you removed
[22:39] <gonzo> Alguien habla español?
[22:39] <guitarthrasher> one_tao: i think so.
[22:39] <Seveas> !es | gonzo
[22:39] <ubotu> gonzo: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:39] <guitarthrasher> cybercod: will it remove KDE though?
[22:39] <friel> quick question, how do i make applications start on login?
[22:39] <one_tao> er. apt-get remove <packagename>
[22:39] <Seveas> guitarthrasher, if you do 'apt get autoremove' afterwards it will. Or you can use debfoster
[22:39] <CyberCod> don't think so
[22:39] <ssam> simonft2, you can get ooo on powerpc
[22:39] <hacknslash> guitarthrasher, sudo apt-get purge packagename
[22:40] <stroyan> daysleepr:  A server from system76.com would be a safe choice for compatibility.
[22:40] <ShmooliKipod> friel: Go to session manager
[22:40] <guitarthrasher> okay.
[22:40] <Kron> Whats the clock at ur place?
[22:40] <guitarthrasher> i'll try that.
[22:40] <simonft2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64143/
[22:40] <guitarthrasher> thanks!
[22:40] <guitarthrasher> i'll let you know how it goes.
[22:40] <FloodBot2> guitarthrasher: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:40] <ssam> simonft2, i have to go now, but if you are still having trouble post in the powerpc section on the forums.
[22:40] <simonft2> ok
[22:40] <Seveas> simonft2, no wonder you can't install anything. You didn't enable any repos
[22:41] <simonft2> lol
[22:41] <simonft2> im new to this
[22:41] <friel> shmoolikipod: where's that at. don't see it under pref or admin
[22:41] <Seveas> ssam, neh, his problem is unrelated to powerpc :)
[22:41] <CyberCod> simonft2: we all are at some point  don't feel bad
[22:41] <Seveas> simonft2, system -> admin -> software sources. Tick all on the first tab
[22:41] <ShmooliKipod> friel:  I m looking for you a sguide
[22:41] <friel> shmoolikipod: n/m thanks.
[22:41] <daysleepr> looking to have the build done by silicon mechanics, actually
[22:41] <friel> shmoolikipod: found it now, thanks :)
[22:42] <simonft2> ok
[22:42] <Kron> Day after tomorrow is the the year day of when i first met Ubuntu
[22:42] <ShmooliKipod> ^^ friel
[22:42] <CyberCod> Kron: first install? or first time you heard the word?
[22:42] <kelvin911> anyone know how to get the wine menu back if i delete it manually in main menu?
[22:42] <guitarthrasher> okay, KDE is gone, but the applications are still there.
[22:42] <Kron> I tried it out a couple of day later
[22:43] <guitarthrasher> any quick way to get rid of it?
[22:43] <Kron> the first time i heard the word, i think
[22:43] <laeg> can someone help me install poweriso? the tar just extracted an unknown filetype to my desktop
[22:43] <totocool> hi all can u tell me where to find the logfiles of nautilus
[22:43] <totocool> ?
[22:43] <zvacet> guitarthrasher : try remove them from main menu
[22:43] <guitarthrasher> okay.
[22:43] <Kron> But i installed Ubuntu the first time about a month ago
[22:43] <Marfi> lol
[22:44] <beniamino> how can i remove all of kde after mistakenly installing kde-desktop on my ubuntu system?
[22:44] <Kron> And im 14 now :D
[22:44] <stroyan> kelvin911:  The alacarte program will edit menus.
[22:44] <rogly> does anybody know where to download themes for Hardy heron?
[22:44] <Kron> My birthday is the 7 april
[22:44] <kelvin911> i know how to edit menu
[22:44] <guitarthrasher> how do i get them off of my computer though?
[22:44] <kelvin911> but i want to have the menu that wine install the first time
[22:44] <Kron> Rogly: Ever tried out google.com?
[22:45] <guitarthrasher> i dont want to just remove them from the menu
[22:45] <rogly> yes
[22:45] <Kron> Do it again then
[22:45] <rogly> no need to be rude...
[22:45] <one_tao> Kron, watch out! your family is going to expect a lot from you, now that you've shown yourself to be a 'Kid-Genius' !!
[22:45] <Kron> im not rude :P
[22:45] <Seven_Six_Two> totocool, is it crashing? it might leave a file in your home dir
[22:45] <rogly> that was pretty rude imo
[22:45] <Seveas> it was
[22:46] <Kron> Why should i be a Kid-Genius? :p
[22:46] <kelvin911> i dont like people tell other to google their problem
[22:46] <tretle> what timezone is the countdown refering to
[22:46] <brynjolf> gnome-look.org rogly
[22:46] <kelvin911> most people come here to ask because they cant find solution in google
[22:46] <Seveas> tretle, martian time
[22:46] <brynjolf> for example
[22:46] <kelvin911> or man
[22:46] <totocool> Seven_Six_Two:  yes ,but hte nautilus_dbg.log file is empty
[22:46] <evilbug> can anyone recommend a media player for ubuntu aside from xmms,mplayer,vlc,and amarok?
[22:46] <one_tao> kron, 14 and installed Ubuntu ?  yeah, you're the one :)
[22:46] <Seveas> evilbug, bmpx
[22:46] <rogly> see I went there bryn, and when I download a theme it tells me that it isnt a vaild theme filetype
[22:46] <Ravenn> how do i get my windows driver off my cd?
[22:46] <Seveas> Ravenn, ##windows for windows support
[22:46] <be1> hi guys
[22:47] <Ravenn> well its ubuntu im on
[22:47] <one_tao> be1, what's up?
[22:47] <Kron> When did u get ubuntu?
[22:47] <brynjolf> just download the tar.gz and then press install, didnt work?
[22:47] <Ravenn> i just need the windows driver to run with ndiswrapper
[22:47] <rogly> ill try now
[22:47] <Ravenn> and im confused
[22:47] <rogly> i was extracting XD
[22:47] <be1> not much,having trouble with visual effects tho
[22:47] <Seveas> !ndiswrapper | Ravenn
[22:47] <ubotu> Ravenn: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:47] <laeg> one_tao: did you get my message? there is no readme file, just an unrecognised filetype called 'poweriso'
[22:47] <Kron> omg, gotta sleep really soon. It's 23.47
[22:47] <Ravenn> the file would be .inf?
[22:48] <brynjolf> hehe yeah it only takes the tar.gz if you press the install thingie, otherwise just extract it to ~/.themes/
[22:48] <Seven_Six_Two> Ravenn, the cab files are compressed. Ark and it's dependencies should be able to extract them.
[22:48] <Seveas> Kron, this is a support channel. Cut the offtopic talk please
[22:48] <one_tao> be1, do you have the hardware to run it?
[22:48] <rogly> ok thanks ill try that now
[22:48] <evilbug> Seveas- anything else?
[22:48] <CyberCod> phew!  close one... thought they cut my net there for a sec
[22:48] <Kron> I like offtopic talk :D
[22:48] <be1> i think so, ati x1250 ??
[22:48] <Kron>  Why do u think it exist a forum?
[22:48] <Seveas> evilbug, rhythmbox, totem, listen, mplayer, gmplaer, smplayer
[22:48] <bd> Hi can someone help the update manager?
[22:49] <CyberCod> bd: what does the update manager need help with?
[22:49] <Kron> Why do i leave all the time
[22:49] <MrBill> can anyone tell me what command I type to turn line numbers on in vim?
[22:49] <simonft2> Seveas: im done
[22:49] <bd> it says E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[22:49]  * no37
[22:49] <friel> newb question, what's the ubuntu version of alt tab?
[22:49] <daysleepr> thanks all!
[22:49] <Seveas> MrBill, :set number
[22:49]  * CyberCod hates vim vi emacs and all that crap
[22:50] <spgk> friel, the same
[22:50] <MrBill> thank you Seveas
[22:50] <Seveas> friel, alt tab
[22:50] <Kron> We should get a funchat, instead of all this boring asking
[22:50] <Seveas> Kron, #ubuntu-release-party or #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:50] <be1> tao, i have enabled the restricted drivers but i get an error msg: The Composite extension is not available
[22:50] <Seveas> now don't make me kick you again
[22:50] <Kron> nice
[22:50] <Kron> or what about "Ubuntu-Fun
[22:51] <evilbug> Seveas- thanks!
[22:51] <Ravenn_> so how do i get them off my cd and into .inf format?
[22:51] <zvacet> beniamino  :  http://psychocats.s465.sureserver.com/ubuntu/puregnome   read remove Kubuntu
[22:51] <friel> : / it doesn't work when i have some full screen apps running
[22:51] <simonft2> Seveas: what now?
[22:51] <beniamino> zvacet: thanks, having a look now
[22:51] <Seveas> simonft2, click ok, install openoffice
[22:51] <one_tao> be1, looke here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2751627
[22:51] <Kron> Cant u speak swedish... It'll make it easier to read.
[22:51] <CyberCod> for good fun chat with other linux users, try #linuxactionshow or #lugradio
[22:52] <MrBill> what is the difference functionally between "sudo su" and "sudo -i"
[22:52] <be1> thanks tao :)
[22:52] <simonft2>  Seveas: click ok where?
[22:52] <tonyyarusso> MrBill: I believe it involves environment variables, but I'm not 100% clear either.
[22:52] <sahak> can't wait for Ubuntu 8.04
[22:52] <one_tao> be1, it's worth it, so keep after it. We'll help you.
[22:53] <evilbug> sahak- me neither :D :D :D
[22:53] <chaqui> hi everyone
[22:53] <chaqui> :-)
[22:53] <MrBill> when i've needed to be root i've always just "sudo su" and it's done the job, following a walkthrough for installing snort and it's advising me to "sudo -i"
[22:53] <simonft2> never mind
[22:53] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, $HOME and $USER to be precise.   (Yes, sudo -i is recommended)
[22:53] <MrBill> kk
[22:53] <Kron> use "update-manager -d"
[22:54] <MrBill> is there ever a time when 'sudo su' is better than 'sudo -i' or should i just be in the habit of using -i any and all times that I wanna become root?
[22:54] <Kron> the u wont have to wait
[22:54] <tonyyarusso> Kron: don't recommend that to people who don't understand the consequences...
[22:54] <simonft2> Seveas thank you so much. it seems to be working now
[22:54] <simonft2> sorry for all the touble
[22:54] <tonyyarusso> MrBill: habit should be sudo always in Ubuntu
[22:54] <Seveas> MrBill, always use -i. Haven't yet found something where it's better not to
[22:54] <MrBill> ok, thanks
[22:54] <Kron> Sure.
[22:54] <Seveas> simonft2, np, glad it works :)
[22:54] <chaqui> who can help me with ndiswrapper?
[22:54] <chaqui> :-(
[22:55] <Morph3us> hi.. i speak spanish.. so.. it's safe remove "language-support-en" ?????
[22:55] <Kron> My computer got screwed up the last time i used update... I had to reinstall
[22:55] <T-Hawk> hey... anybody got experience with NFS?
[22:55] <CyberCod> chaqui: you using the command line? or graphical?
[22:55] <Seveas> Morph3us, yes
[22:55] <chaqui> kinda both
[22:55] <Seveas> !anyone | T-Hawk
[22:55] <chaqui> im up against a belkin wireless card
[22:55] <Morph3us> Seveas, absolutely sure? :D
[22:55] <ubotu> T-Hawk: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[22:55] <bd> how do I run dpkg --configure -a?
[22:55] <Seveas> Morph3us, yeah. I speak english and don't have it installed :)
[22:55] <chaqui> ive found help for it but it didn't seem to work for the 64bit architecture
[22:56] <extor> Is there much difference between debian testing and ubuntu? Just curious what frills they added
[22:56] <Seveas> bd, open a terminal, type this: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:56] <tonyyarusso> extor: why not try both and see?  :)
[22:56] <Morph3us> Seveas, WTF !!! Well.. removing.. Thanks man! :D
[22:56] <CyberCod> chaqui     check IM
[22:56] <simmerz> anyone know what time tomorrow heron is being released?
[22:56] <zvacet>           MrBill :                             https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[22:56] <extor> tony yeah just wanted peoples input before
[22:56] <tonyyarusso> simmerz: #ubuntu-release-party (and no, there is no time)
[22:57] <T-Hawk> right... i've got a NFS export setup like this: /var/www <IP_ADDRESS>/24(rw,sync,subtree_check) , i can mount it fine, and the files are owned by the same user, but when i try to change anything, even just a touch foo i get "Read only filesystem"
[22:57] <Seveas> T-Hawk, is it writable on the host itself?
[22:57] <T-Hawk> Seveas, yes
[22:57] <Seveas> T-Hawk, did you mount it read-write?
[22:57] <bd> thank you very much
[22:57] <T-Hawk> Seveas, i didn't do either, rw should be default according to man nfs
[22:58] <Seveas> T-Hawk, I thought so too, check the output of mount to be sure
[22:58] <CyberCod> rw by default doesn't sound "linuxy"
[22:58] <chaqui> cybercod: IM
[22:58] <Seveas> CyberCod, why not?
[22:58] <academy> I'm currently trying to pick a final year project for the final year of my comp sci degree.  Does anyone have any suggestions, particularly involving open source software?
[22:58] <T-Hawk> Seveas, nfsd on /proc/fs/nfs type nfsd (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[22:59] <Seveas> academy, this is a support channel, not a discussion channel
[22:59] <tonyyarusso> academy: try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:59] <Seveas> T-Hawk, that's not the nfs mount :)
[22:59] <CyberCod> chaqui: not seeing anything
[22:59] <chaqui> no?
[22:59] <chaqui> HM.
[22:59] <kingv> so 804 comes out tonight at midnight us central time??
[22:59] <harry> so what do i do now
[22:59] <jac0b> is there a reason some packages are not available for hardy
[22:59] <academy> Seveas/tonyyarusso: sorry - ok
[22:59] <MiniToe> root@durdserv:~# do-release-upgrade
[22:59] <MiniToe> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[22:59] <MiniToe> No new release found
[22:59] <Seveas> !isitout | kingv
[22:59] <ubotu> kingv: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.
[22:59] <CyberCod> Seveas:  Because defaulting to rw doesn't seem essentially secure.
[22:59] <academy> .leave
[22:59] <MiniToe> wrong window :/
[22:59] <T-Hawk> Seveas, right... stupid me...
[22:59] <chaqui> cybercod: how about now?
[23:00] <pat_> Hey i installed hardy with wubi and the firt time i booted i saw my windows partition but now i cant find it :-/
[23:00] <dethstar> later all
[23:00] <Seveas> CyberCod, this rw is whether the filesystem is writable, it's not about filepermissions
[23:00] <tonyyarusso> pat_: #ubuntu+1 for development version discussion.
[23:00] <T-Hawk> Seveas, hehe nvm... seems the issue has vanished as i did a umount /mnt/www; mount /mnt/www :P
[23:00] <Seveas> T-Hawk, hah :)
[23:00] <Kron> UBUNTU 8.02 WILL AIR WHEN IT'S DONE!
[23:00] <chaqui> cybercod: i recieved your message, but it appears you havent got mine
[23:00] <CyberCod> Seveas, yes I understand that
[23:01] <Seveas> Kron, nope, ubuntu 8.02 will never air. It's 8.04, and this is your last warning -- behave in here
[23:01] <milia> Kron, guess many people have buzzed you asking questions huh :X
[23:01] <luka_> hi guys
[23:01] <milia> on 'when'
[23:01] <Kron> i meant 8.04
[23:01]  * CyberCod hates NFS sharing for exactly these kinds of reasons
[23:01] <moralist> hmm... my clock is tomorrow now
[23:01] <luka_> my synaptics touchpad is not wirking
[23:01] <luka_> seems like a glitch with the driver
[23:01] <ingramFlash> luka_: Hack the source.
[23:01] <luka_> is there any way to verify that the driver is loaded
[23:01] <Kron> Why do i have warnings?
[23:01] <timsandtoms> Is there going to be anything different from todays 8.04 vs. after its officially released? Or would just running the update manager bring it up to date?
[23:02] <zvacet> moralist : so,you are living in future
[23:02] <Webfun> my clock also says 0:00 :p
[23:02] <Seveas> Kron, because you keep misbehaving
[23:02] <Seveas> !guidelines | Kron
[23:02] <ubotu> Kron: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[23:02] <kingv> ubotu, when does it usually realese?
[23:02] <luka_> no skils for that my man
[23:02] <Kron> Im not misbehaving....
[23:02] <milia> Seveas, I guess there's no problem downloading the release candidate and then updating/upgrading the programms i've installed right ?
[23:02] <Seveas> !isitout | Webfun kingv
[23:02] <ubotu> Webfun kingv: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.
[23:02] <moralist> zvacet: something like that :)
[23:02] <Seveas> milia, correct
[23:02] <chaqui> cybercod i guess we can't chat?
[23:02] <T-Hawk> okay now this is odd... according to mount /mnt/www isn't mounted anymore, but ls returns the updated file listing, and i can touch files that show up remotely as well :O
[23:02] <milia> that's great, thanx a lot :).
[23:03] <Webfun> ty ubotu
[23:03] <zvacet> moralist : 8-)
[23:03] <Seveas> T-Hawk, funky
[23:03] <luka_> is there a way to check if synaptics driver is loaded in xorg ?
[23:03] <CyberCod> chaqui: what client are you using?
[23:03] <T-Hawk> Seveas, and mount /mnt/www says it's already mounted :O
[23:03] <pschorf> I'm having a problem with gcc...if I run "gcc 1-1.c", it doesn't use my CFLAGS, but if I type "gcc $CFLAGS 1-1.c", it works
[23:03] <Kron> Gotta sleep now... U should do the same Seveas, u seems a little bit angry ;)
[23:03] <T-Hawk> umount www
[23:03] <T-Hawk> umount: /mnt/www is not mounted (according to mtab)
[23:03] <T-Hawk> thawk@laptop /mnt $ mount www
[23:03] <T-Hawk> mount.nfs: /mnt/www is already mounted or busy
[23:03] <FloodBot2> T-Hawk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:03] <chaqui> pidgin
[23:03] <kkskakd> hi, can i recover a deleted partition?
[23:03] <kingv> Seveas, when does it usually get released. what time?
[23:03] <milia> luka_, grep synaptics /etc/X11/xorg.conf, or open xorg.conf with your editor and look
[23:04] <chaqui> well, the issue is that in ndswrapper grapical its showing that the hardware is present, and the driver is installed
[23:04] <Seveas> kingv, didn't you see what ubotu just wrote?
[23:04] <CyberCod> chaqui: yeah, do go on
[23:04] <luka> milia: the lines are there
[23:04] <Kron> Where's my good night good bye?
[23:04] <luka> milia: the driver pachage is loaded
[23:04] <chaqui> i installed it from the CD
[23:04] <kingv> Seveas, yeah i did and it says nothing. when was the last final release released?
[23:05] <luka> but the touchpad is just not working
[23:05] <chaqui> ive also tried diffrent online sources
[23:05] <CyberCod> you modprobed it?
[23:05] <luka> milia: perhaps it can be disabled by some key combination
[23:05] <chaqui> i think?
[23:05] <chaqui> im not positive
[23:05] <milia> luka, have you tried qsynaptics ?
[23:05] <Seveas> kingv, it says exactly what I'll say: we don't know when it'll be released
[23:05] <CyberCod> makes a big difference
[23:05] <T-Hawk> Seveas, http://pastebin.org/31613
[23:05] <milia> but it's not working you say..
[23:05] <chaqui> what does modprobe do?
[23:05] <luka> milia: gsynaptics
[23:05] <Kron> see yah
[23:05] <GIn> hi, how to schedule a shutdown?
[23:06] <luka> complains about SHMConfig
[23:06] <Starnestommy> chaqui: it loads and unloads kernel modules
[23:06] <CyberCod> don't quote me.... but I believe it makes it so that the kernel sees it
[23:06] <luka> I added Option SHMConfig "on"
[23:06] <CyberCod> yeah, what he said
[23:06] <Seven_Six_Two> GIn, one at a time, or on a shedule?
[23:06] <chaqui> ok how do i modprobe it?
[23:06] <luka> to synaptics section in xorg.conf
[23:06] <be1> I'm trying to follow the instructions for enabling xgl on my ati video card but get an error when trying to add the beryl repo... any ideas?
[23:06] <pschorf> I'm having a problem with gcc...if I run "gcc 1-1.c", it doesn't use my CFLAGS, but if I type "gcc $CFLAGS 1-1.c", it works
[23:06] <kkskakd> anybody know's how to recover a deleted partition?
[23:06] <milia> luka, do you have a line InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad"  in the Section "ServerLayout" ?
[23:06] <kingv> Seveas, yeah thanks :) that's what i got out of the msg too. i just thought someone would know :S
[23:06] <luka> yes
[23:06] <timsandtoms> Is there going to be anything different from todays 8.04 vs. after its officially released? Or should I wait till tomorrow to make my CD for it?
[23:06] <Seveas> T-Hawk, is /etc/mtab not a symlink to /proc/mounts in your system
[23:06] <luka> I just moved it higher
[23:06] <GIn> Seven_Six_Two: I wnat ti shutdown over 10 minutes, only today
[23:06] <luka> a few lines a few minutes ago
[23:07] <T-Hawk> Seveas, no
[23:07] <luka> thought maybee some of the other dirvers are messing it up
[23:07] <CyberCod> sudo modprobe -i ndiswrapper      I think
[23:07] <CyberCod> been a little while
[23:07] <T-Hawk> Seveas, should it be? it's a gentoo system locally
[23:07] <milia> luka, why don't you pastebin your xorg.conf to take a look at it ?:)
[23:07] <luka> it's a bit of a problem without mouse :)
[23:07] <Seven_Six_Two> GIn, shutdown -h  600
[23:07] <luka> hehehe
[23:07] <Seveas> T-Hawk, is the mount listed in /proc/mtab?
[23:07] <milia> ups soz
[23:07] <CyberCod> or you could also do       lsmod | grep ndis    to see if the ndiswrapper modules are already loaded
[23:08] <milia> thought you had some kind of mouse
[23:08] <chaqui> invalid option
[23:08] <T-Hawk> Seveas, no... but this has never been an issue before
[23:08] <Seven_Six_Two> GIn, sudo shutdown -h 600
[23:08] <luka> milia: mouse does not work either when plugged into ps/2
[23:08] <Seveas> T-Hawk, well, it should be listed there, weird things are going on there
[23:08] <thebigham> I have an extremely serious problem here =(
[23:08] <ptn107> timsandtoms: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=763394
[23:08] <thebigham> my internet is very slow
[23:08] <Seveas> T-Hawk, may I suggest a windows solution (reboot)
[23:09] <chaqui> possible sudo modprobe -a ndiswrapper
[23:09] <chaqui> ?
[23:09] <thebigham> and alot of times i cant even cinnect to the internet
[23:09] <quittt>  why my other partitions do not appear on the desktop, since they're mounted???? I'm on XFCE
[23:09] <CyberCod> that sounds right
[23:09] <thebigham> can anyone here help me with this problem?
[23:09] <CyberCod> its been a long while
[23:09] <chaqui> it didn't really do anything
[23:09] <luka> milia: just tried to plug my working mouse from desktop
[23:09] <milia> luka, is xserver-xorg-input-mouse installed in your system ? you can look for it using sudo aptitude search package
[23:09] <luka> into my laptop and it isn't working either
[23:09] <Seven_Six_Two> thebigham, your isp can help you with that
[23:09] <luka> let me check
[23:09] <saftsack> hi, netstat shows me an
[23:09] <CyberCod> no output?
[23:09] <chaqui> no
[23:09] <chaqui> nothing
[23:10] <chaqui> next line
[23:10] <thebigham> seven_six_two:no its not my internet's problem
[23:10] <CyberCod> it worked then I think
[23:10] <thebigham> its ubuntu
[23:10] <RichW> thebigham: Right click on the wireless icon in the tray.. go to connection information and tell me what driver your running.
[23:10] <be1> Anyone got any experience with XGL?
[23:10] <saftsack> hi, netstat shows me an open port now i want to know from which program the port was opened.
[23:10] <CyberCod> do    lsmod | grep ndis
[23:10] <T-Hawk> Seveas, you tell me no :P any ideas on how to get /etc/mtab updated? since it seems it's actualy mounted
[23:10] <Starnestommy> saftsack: netstat -alp
[23:10] <saftsack> Starnestommy, thx
[23:10] <luka> milia. dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg.input reports it as installed
[23:10] <Seven_Six_Two> theaber, with a browser? p2p? voip? youtube?
[23:10] <chaqui> ok, i gt output
[23:10] <kkskakd> i tried testdisk , i did search for partitons, didn't find the one i was looking for (a ntfs i had before installing ubuntu ), then advanced search and it found it flagged with D (deleted) i did P(list files) but it says it's corrupt, is there any way to restore that partition?
[23:10] <CyberCod> ok.... iwconfig
[23:11] <thebigham> richw: it didnt say anythign about the driver
[23:11] <thebigham> richw: its Driver: BLANK
[23:11] <RichW> thebigham: Are you not connected?
[23:11] <chaqui> lo no wireless extensions
[23:11] <Prefix> whats the thing i stick after making a lancher for a program that means i can like drag stuff onto it and it opens with that program?
[23:11] <thebigham> i am connected right now
[23:11] <chaqui> and etho no wirless extentions
[23:11] <thebigham> how come the speed says 1mb/s?
[23:11] <luka> milia: this is an ancient gericom webboy at 700MHz
[23:11] <RichW> thebigham: USB or PCI?
[23:11] <CyberCod> nothing else?
[23:11] <chaqui> nothing else.
[23:11] <luka> it might be that it just malfunctioned
[23:12] <milia> luka, run out of ideas :X
[23:12] <CyberCod> hmmm
[23:12] <matt444> hi.  when i navigate to a shared folder in nautilus, it says "you must log in to view" message.  i use the samba password i created.  but it doesn't work.  what do i do?
[23:12] <thebigham> RichW: i'm on the laptop, so ..
[23:12] <CyberCod> ndswrapper -l
[23:12] <chaqui> but it shows the hardware through the gui of ndiswrapper
[23:12] <RichW> thebigham: Built into the laptop?
[23:12] <CyberCod> screw the gui
[23:12] <thebigham> yes
[23:12] <luka> milia: me too
[23:12] <CyberCod> it is not reliable
[23:12] <CyberCod> actually remove it via the gui
[23:12] <timsandtoms> ptn107: Ah, dang, thanks. looks like ill install tomorrow
[23:12] <chaqui> blkwgdv7 : driver installed
[23:12] <chaqui>         device (1799:700F) present
[23:12] <RichW> thebigham: Can you open a terminal and put the results into a pastebin?
[23:12] <chaqui> ok, removed
[23:13] <RichW> !pastebin | thebigham
[23:13] <ubotu> thebigham: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[23:13] <CyberCod> lemme look up my notes real quick, as I said it has been a while
[23:13] <Seven_Six_Two> thebigham, output from ifconfig/iwconfig?
[23:13] <pschorf> I've set my CFLAGS to "-g -Wall -pedantic", but if I run "gcc 1-1.c" it doesn't catch errors that -Wall normally does unless I type "gcc $CFLAGS 1-1.c"
[23:13] <thebigham> richw: you lost me there
[23:13] <hellues> yavuz cetin cheeroke
[23:14] <matt444> hi.  when i navigate to a shared folder in nautilus, it says "you must log in to view" message.  i use the samba password i created.  but it doesn't work.  what do i do?
[23:14] <athem> anyone able to help me teach my computer to power off after shutdown?
[23:15] <RichW> thebigham: Sorry my bad, Applications --> accessories --> terminal. Type lspci and press the enter key and then put results into pastebin.
[23:15] <wouter> where's Ubanto 8.04?
[23:15] <thebigham> richw:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64145/
[23:15] <tonyyarusso> wouter: #ubuntu-release-party please
[23:15] <dwidmann> With nfs, if you export say, /nfs/blah, on the guest machine could you mount something like say, /nfs/blah/bleh even the /nfs/blah/bleh wasn't explicitly exported and /nfs/blah was?
[23:15] <RichW> !hardy | wouter
[23:15] <ubotu> wouter: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[23:15] <kkskakd> helooo
[23:16] <Seveas> !isitout | wouter
[23:16] <ubotu> wouter: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.
[23:16] <Seven_Six_Two> thebigham, how much slower than your provisioned speed is it? All protocols?
[23:16] <kkskakd> can i recover an ntfs partition after installing ubuntu?
[23:16] <kkskakd> over it
[23:16] <extor> If I do a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda will that for sure to a zero write on every single part of my hdd or is there a chance it may leave some area untouched, which may potentially have part of a rootkit?
[23:16] <evilbug> anyone here have bandwith issues when updating your system?the last couple of days for me have been bad with this,my dl speed is only up to about 70k when it's supposed to be about 1mb...
[23:16] <wouter> tonyyarusso: thx
[23:16] <hellues> rise against state of union
[23:16] <dwidmann> extor: yeah, that'll nuke everything
[23:17] <RichW> thebigham: That is the output of ifconfig and not lspci.. try again!
[23:17] <extor> you sure there is nothing BEHIND byte 0 on the hdd? That you need special commands to get to?