[12:17] <manadart> stickupkid, achilleasa_: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/12679
[16:06] <stickupkid> manadart, achilleasa_ 2.9 into develop https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/12701
[16:39] <Hybrid512> Hi
[16:39] <Hybrid512> Can somebody explain me why this work :
[16:39] <Hybrid512> juju add-machine --constraints "tags=virtual" --model admin/test
[16:39] <Hybrid512> and not this :
[16:40] <Hybrid512> juju add-machine --constraints "tags=virtual zones=MRS-HB5" --model admin/test
[16:40] <Hybrid512> by "working", I mean spinning a new VM on a KVM host managed by MaaS
[16:41] <Hybrid512> "MRS-HB5" is an existing AZ and from the MaaS UI, I czan compose VMs in it with my KVM host
[16:41] <Hybrid512> but if I want to dynamically generate VMs with juju, some parameters work but not all
[16:42] <Hybrid512> especially, it seem to never work when I'm using the "zones=XXX" parameters which is annoying because I can't control in which AZ to put my VM
[16:43] <Hybrid512> it seems to always take the default AZ configured for the KVM host
[16:44] <Hybrid512> worst than that, if you specify the AZ, juju can't spin the VM, it just fails and don't fallback to the default AZ


[20:13] <guntbert> some remarks about the upgrade process: the user is asked (several times) if he want to keep/replace certain config files. There is no way to know when those questions will pop up - makes the upgrade last a lot longer than necessary unless I watch it all the time - against what package would I file a bug in this case?
[20:15] <MrChrisDruif> I think there isn't a clear cut answer for that. I guess all packages which got new config files?
[20:16] <MrChrisDruif> Then again, I'm no developer.
[20:17] <MrChrisDruif> I think I'd go for update-manager, because you the "end-user" got a problem with the upgrade progress guntbert
[20:18] <guntbert> MrChrisDruif: will do, thx for the advice (finding the right package is sometimes the hardest part of a good bug report :)
[20:19] <MrChrisDruif> No probs.
[20:44] <guntbert> on a totally different topic: what might be the right place/situation where the ubuntu gods (iow mark shuttleworth) would be really listening to the concerns about unity-lens-shopping being opt-out instead of opt-in (as it should be)
[20:46] <guntbert> I read his blog and the discussion there, and he seems not to hear what many are talking about
[20:49] <IdleOne> I don't think that his response would be any different if you wrote a letter or sent him an email.
[20:49] <MrChrisDruif> He has his talks on IRC once a month I think. But talking to Canonical staff also worth your time.
[20:49] <MrChrisDruif> jono_; ^
[20:50] <IdleOne> guntbert: there is a Ask Mark session at 10:00UTC on the 25th
[20:50] <IdleOne> tomorrow*
[20:50] <IdleOne> I am sure he will get many questions about it then
[20:54] <guntbert> IdleOne: MrChrisDruif: I was not so concerned about throwing my "very special" voice into the melee - and contacting him personally about this was mot my intention - where is that session held?
[20:54] <IdleOne> in #ubuntu-classroom http://is.gd/8rtIi |
[20:54] <IdleOne> the times on the calendar are UTC
[20:58] <guntbert> IdleOne: thx, I'll have to read the logs - lesson time :-)
[20:59] <IdleOne> same here, that will be at 6:00AM my time and i don't think I will be awake
[21:00] <MrChrisDruif> Noon, I'm at work at that time ^_^
[21:03] <jono_> guntbert, hey
[21:03] <jono_> Mark is well aware of the concerns, I can assure youi
[21:03] <jono_> he reads the blogs, discussions, and mailing list threads
[21:04] <guntbert> hey jono_ : I am sure he is aware, but his responses didn't sound as if he really had listened
[21:04] <jono_> guntbert, how so?
[21:05] <jono_> I think he responded appropriately, he just disagreed with much of the concern
[21:06] <guntbert> well in the blog he didn't adress the opt-out vs opt-in policy at all, and the "we have root" was just outrageous in my opinion
[21:06] <jono_> guntbert, to be fair, his point about root was simply a point about trust
[21:06] <jono_> Ubuntu developers do have root...packages run as root
[21:07] <jono_> he was making the point that it is fair for our users to trust Ubuntu developers
[21:07] <jono_> as we have always had root packages and this trust has always served our users well
[21:07] <jono_> guntbert, in terms of the opt out thing, this was address in Cristian Parrino's post
[21:07] <jono_> http://blog.canonical.com/2012/10/12/searching-in-the-dash-in-ubuntu-12-10-an-update/
[21:08]  * guntbert hadn't seen that post yet
[21:08] <IdleOne> The we have root comment was meant to be cheaky
[21:08] <guntbert> jono_: to trust someone
[21:09] <jono_> IdleOne, indeed
[21:09] <guntbert> jono_: to trust someone not to mess my system is a completely different sort of trust than to trust them with my data
[21:09] <IdleOne> it was not meant to be literal, language barriers can make it difficult to grasp the humour that was intended.
[21:10] <jono_> guntbert, right, and I agree, but the point he made was that Ubuntu is built on a foundation of trust, and if we have managed to handle that trust well for eight years, it should provide some reassurance to our users
[21:10] <IdleOne> guntbert: although you do have a firm grasp of the English language I believe that some of the more suttle humour may still escape you.
[21:10] <jono_> guntbert, if you don't like the feature, switch it off
[21:10] <jono_> there is a button
[21:10] <jono_> it was definitely a tongue in cheek comment
[21:10] <IdleOne> subtle*
[21:11] <jono_> no doubt, and I think you raise a good point, IdleOne, about the subtlety sometimes being lost
[21:11] <IdleOne> jono_: I think Mark is often misunderstood, he does IMO have a special sense of humour
[21:11] <jono_> IdleOne, I agree
[21:11] <guntbert> it is too late for me today to go into a deeper discussion - but jono_ you last remark (off-button) touches exactly my main concern: opt-out vs opt.in
[21:12] <MrChrisDruif> IdleOne; subtle humour gets lost without the non-verbal part. =)
[21:13] <IdleOne> guntbert: I agree that the shopping lens should be an opt-in, BUT that would mean less users would get to see it. making it an opt-out feature at least allows the user to see it one time.
[21:13] <IdleOne> MrChrisDruif: true, text is not always the best medium for humour
[21:13] <MrChrisDruif> =D
[21:13] <jono_> guntbert, was nice chatting
[21:14] <jono_> have a nice evening
[21:14] <guntbert> IdleOne: true, but the standard rules for privacy and data protection require just that: "offer it", promote it - but let people opt-in
[21:15] <guntbert> jono_: thx for listening - have a nice time too


[16:59] <Olivier1> hello :)
[17:06] <holstein> Olivier2: :)
[17:08] <Olivier2> I've tried to install the latest Ubuntu Studio 10.04 on my ASUS G60J Laptop...
[17:08] <holstein> AH
[17:08] <holstein> how did it go?
[17:08] <Olivier2> But at the beginning of the installation the network card is not recognised.
[17:08] <Olivier2> I'd previously installed a Lucid and the network card was perfectly recognized.
[17:08] <holstein> well
[17:08] <Olivier2> What can I do to solve this ? Thanks
[17:09] <holstein> one easy way
[17:09] <holstein> just install lucid
[17:09] <holstein> and add what you want to it
[17:09] <holstein> !vanilla
[17:09] <holstein> im not sure what is going on
[17:09] <holstein> are you in front of it right now?
[17:11] <holstein> the gnome network manager is not installed by default in ubuntustudio
[17:11] <holstein> it could be that simple
[17:11] <holstein> probably is that simple
[17:12] <holstein> you should try that before you go and reinstall
[17:12] <Olivier2> No... I've try to do what U've just said... so I'm in front of The Vanilla Lucid on which I've install the US desktop, now...
[17:12] <holstein> you dont need to reinstall to get ubuntustudio
[17:13] <holstein> in the future
[17:13] <holstein> :)
[17:13] <holstein> Olivier2: so you have lucid vanilla
[17:13] <holstein> and ubuntustudio dual booting?
[17:13] <Olivier2> I'm fuzzy... sorry...
[17:14] <Olivier2> In fact...
[17:14] <holstein> no worries
[17:14] <holstein> im quite positive that is the issue
[17:14] <holstein> if you need to get wireless working in the stock ubuntustudio installation
[17:14] <Olivier2> I'm trying to use a RT kernel on a Lucid.
[17:15] <holstein> you can plug into ethernet
[17:15] <holstein> wired
[17:15] <holstein> and install nm-applet
[17:15] <holstein> OR use the ubuntustudio installation DVD as a repostitory
[17:15] <holstein> and install the nma-applet from there
[17:15] <holstein> Olivier2: i would suggest
[17:16] <holstein> try the generic kernel
[17:16] <holstein> first
[17:16] <Olivier2> I've done it...but on vanilla it's not working good.
[17:16] <holstein> in what way?
[17:16] <holstein> are you using JACK?
[17:16] <Olivier2> yes
[17:16] <holstein> what latency are you going for?
[17:17] <holstein> if your playing a software synth
[17:17] <holstein> or doing real-time effects processing
[17:17] <holstein> you need lower latency
[17:17] <holstein> otherwise, something like 20ms or so should be fine
[17:17] <Olivier2> My latency is only 69...
[17:17] <holstein> hell, even 60
[17:17] <holstein> yeah
[17:18] <holstein> thats fine for 99% of what most folks do
[17:18] <holstein> anyways
[17:18] <Olivier2> I want to use 4 instances of puredata at the same time
[17:18] <holstein> sudo apt-get install linux-rt
[17:18] <holstein> or search linux-rt
[17:18] <Olivier2> With the noRT kernel it work but the is some Xruns
[17:18] <holstein> from where ever you install
[17:19] <holstein> after you get the network up and running
[17:19] <holstein> and check out
[17:19] <holstein> !grub2
[17:20] <holstein> Olivier2: what audio device are you using?
[17:20] <Olivier2> A firewire Presonus Firepod
[17:20] <holstein> AH
[17:20] <holstein> thats what i got :)
[17:20] <holstein> yeah, i get 2.9 ms
[17:20] <holstein> with the RT kernel
[17:20] <holstein> pretty stable
[17:20] <Olivier2> Whaouu
[17:21] <holstein> i have different profiles
[17:21] <holstein> for mixing i set it at 90ms
[17:23] <Olivier2> I have the 2.6.31-11-rt and I red that there are probleme with file syteme 2.6.32 on Lucid... that's why I'm tryying to install US
[17:23] <Olivier2> <2.6.32 sorry
[17:23] <holstein> id have to look
[17:24] <holstein> i got a stock karmic install
[17:24] <holstein> that i added studio packages to
[17:24] <holstein> and upgraded to lucid
[17:24] <holstein> and a couple test machine
[17:24] <holstein> one with maverick
[17:24] <holstein> and one with a stock ubuntustdio lucid install
[17:25] <holstein> all of them are stable
[17:25] <holstein> WELL the maverick not so much
[17:25] <holstein> but thats to be expected
[17:25] <holstein> Olivier2: i have ext4
[17:25] <holstein> and an ext2 partion i track to
[17:26] <holstein> Olivier2: whatever problems may or may not be in ubuntu, will be in ubuntustudio as well
[17:26] <holstein> they are the same thing
[17:26] <holstein> if there is a file system issue
[17:26] <holstein> it will be in both
[17:27] <holstein> the biggest difference
[17:27] <holstein> and issue most folks have
[17:27] <holstein> is the gnome network manager not being used in ubuntustudio


[00:59] <Dante__> #ubuntu-autopilot
[00:59] <Dante__> #ubuntu-autopilot.
[09:33] <dkessel> good job queuebot :)
[13:54] <balloons> morning all!
[13:55] <teward> o/
[13:57] <dkessel> morning balloons :)
[13:59] <slickymasterWork> afternoon balloons
[13:59] <balloons> dkessel, wie gahts?
[13:59] <balloons> slickymasterWork, :-) Good to hear from you
[14:00] <slickymasterWork> :)
[14:00] <knome> balloons, slickymasterWork, dkessel: hi
[14:00] <knome> (and teward)
[14:00] <balloons> oO knome as well :-)
[14:01] <balloons> party time on Monday morning
[14:01] <knome> :)
[14:01] <knome> lol
[14:01] <knome> no party and no morning
[14:01] <knome> but time on monday, yes
[14:02] <knome> hmm, Vivid Vervet
[14:14] <elfy> Vapid Vampire
[14:20] <balloons> elfy likes the vampire reference :-)
[14:21]  * slickymasterWork would have gone with Veroucius Velociraptor
[14:27] <balloons> elfy, care to confirm something for me?
[14:27] <elfy> if I can I will balloons
[14:30] <balloons> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/1370707
[14:31] <senan> balloons, hi
[14:32] <elfy> balloons: is that a vm issue?
[14:37] <balloons> elfy, I'm not quite sure, and I don't have a good setup to test on real hw here
[14:38] <elfy> I'll have a look in vm first - I might be persuaded that helping ubuntu test something on hardware is useful for me
[14:38] <elfy> though I'm not sure how :D
[14:39] <balloons> it would be awesome if you could give an update on what's up. :-)
[14:39] <balloons> elfy, feel free to use xubuntu; it's plymouth so DE should not matter
[14:39] <elfy> oh
[14:39] <balloons> I'd like to figure out the issue before pinging some folks to have a look
[14:39] <elfy> well I don't think I can confirm
[14:40] <elfy> booting laptop
[14:45] <elfy> balloons: yep - confirmed - also @ post#3 removing vt handoff - I get a single line of text echoing in rubbish resolution, then resolution sorts itself out then plymouth then login dialogue
[14:45] <elfy> also confirm pressing a key during boot = plymouth
[15:02] <elfy> balloons: commented in bug
[15:09] <balloons> elfy, awesome thanks for doing that!
[15:09] <elfy> welcome
[15:10] <elfy> did you see my ping Friday? <elfy> balloons: does bug 1382577 make sense to you?
[15:11] <balloons> elfy, I was out friday.. busy week this week also, so no I missed it
[15:11] <balloons> elfy, looking now
[15:11] <elfy> ta
[15:22] <balloons> elfy, the bug makes sense.
[15:25] <elfy> balloons: just wanted to make sure :)


[11:30] <alan_g> anpok_: is there a good way to find the default keymap? Do I have to parse /etc/default/keyboard?
[12:00] <anpok_> alan_g: that file might not be there .. but yes
[12:00] <anpok_> other option might be to have a udev property
[12:01] <anpok_> but we dont expose enough information to get the syspath of a device - and from there to udev
[12:01] <greyback> alan_g: hey, I'm trying to get tooltips working with qtubuntu and miral. I appear to be hitting an api change, where mir0.25 has a placement_hint attribute, but 0.24 (I'm using) does not. Miral with mir 0.24 doesn't place the tooltip correctly at all as a result
[12:02] <alan_g> anpok_: thanks. I think I'll avoid that.
[12:02] <greyback> suggest I wait for mir 0.25?
[12:03] <alan_g> greyback: it should look the same to WM, but prior to 0.25 there was poor client-side support.
[12:04] <alan_g> greyback: Gotta go to lunch now, will try to help when I'm back
[12:04] <greyback> alan_g: ack
[12:04] <greyback> I'll log a bug with what I'm doing
[12:04] <greyback> just to get the info in one place
[13:06] <greyback> alan_g: bug 1632325 shows what I get
[13:06] <alan_g> greyback: ack
[13:15] <alan_g> greyback: try using mir_connection_create_spec_for_tip()
[13:16] <greyback> alan_g: that also arrived in mir 0.25, no?
[13:17]  * alan_g looks
[13:17] <greyback> I don't have that with my mir0.24
[13:19] <alan_g> Ack
[13:20] <alan_g> OK, I suspect mir_connection_create_spec_for_tooltip() isn't joined up right.
[13:20] <alan_g> Next on my list
[13:23] <greyback> thanks
[13:33] <alan_g> anpok_: Could you sanity check? https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/miral/Keymap/+merge/308121
[13:44] <anpok_> yup looks sane
[13:49] <alan_g> anpok_: thanks
[14:19] <alan_g> greyback: https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/miral/fix-1632325/+merge/308127
[14:19] <greyback> ack
[14:23] <greyback> alan_g: seems to do the job, I suspect qtubuntu needs more work to move the tooltip when it is reused
[14:24] <alan_g> greyback: it just needs to apply a spec with the updated position
[14:24] <greyback> yep
[14:24] <greyback> I see that code is missing


[02:02] <shadeslayer> yofel: what's the release procedure for kubuntu-settings?
[02:03] <shadeslayer> add changelog -> push to bzr -> rm -rf .bzr/ -> debuild -S -sa -> upload?
[02:04] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1183031] package kdm 4:4.10.2-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/k... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1183031 (by Fila Kolodny)
[04:02] <shadeslayer> o_o
[04:02] <shadeslayer> I did not realize ubuntu had the arm64 arch enabled
[04:04] <shadeslayer> didn't even realize there were boards out for that
[05:05] <ScottK> Can someone look at language-pack-kde-en's unsatisfiable dependency on calligra-l10n-engb?  It's been like this for a month.
[05:05] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^ from cjwatson.
[05:06] <shadeslayer> :S
[05:08] <shadeslayer> it seems to be already installed here, need to check a live cd
[05:14] <shadeslayer> ScottK: l-p-k-e installs fine for me
[05:15] <ScottK> that's because it didn't migrate from proposed I think.
[05:15] <shadeslayer> gotcha
[05:15] <shadeslayer> eh
[05:16] <shadeslayer> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-kde-en/1:13.10+20130918.0ubuntu1
[05:16] <shadeslayer> Riddell seems to have fixed it?
[05:17] <ScottK> Recently?
[05:17] <shadeslayer> yes
[05:17] <shadeslayer> changelog says yesterday
[05:17] <ScottK> OK.
[05:17] <ScottK> Thanks for checking.
[05:17] <shadeslayer> np
[05:18] <shadeslayer> ScottK: thoughts on why flask is under kubuntu here http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/#kubuntu
[05:18] <ScottK> No.
[05:18] <ScottK> I confess to not understanding how some things happen.
[05:19] <shadeslayer> okay
[05:19]  * shadeslayer should fix qtbwekit so that it migrates
[05:22] <shadeslayer> ScottK: arm boxes are down?
[05:23] <ScottK> Yes.  Need it?
[05:23] <ScottK> I can go restart it.
[05:23] <ScottK> It's not far away.
[05:23] <shadeslayer> would like to fix qtwebkit, so yeah
[05:23] <ScottK> K.
[05:23]  * shadeslayer can see the sun coming up
[05:40] <shadeslayer> ScottK: I forget, where are the pbuilder tars located?
[05:40] <shadeslayer> I see some in /home
[05:44] <shadeslayer> hmm, you're already running a upgrade
[05:44]  * shadeslayer waits
[05:49] <ScottK> shadeslayer: All yours now.
[05:50] <shadeslayer> shadeslayer@kubuntu-armhf00:~$ pbuilder-dist saucy create
[05:50] <shadeslayer> Unknown distribution: saucy
[05:50] <shadeslayer> probably needs a new debootstrap ^^
[05:50] <ScottK> That was annoying.  I had to pull out a keyboard and monitor to revive it.
[05:50] <ScottK> Probably.
[05:51] <shadeslayer> well, weird
[05:51] <shadeslayer> box has 1.0.39ubuntu0.3
[05:51] <shadeslayer> which is what ubuntu has in the archive
[05:51] <shadeslayer> and it has the saucy symlink
[05:51] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Look in my home directory.  In the pbuilder dir there's a saucy tarball already made.  just copy it over.
[05:52] <ScottK> You'll need that one anyway, since it's got a special eglibc version in it.
[05:52] <soee> good morning
[05:52] <ScottK> The box's kernel is too old to run with the regular saucy eglibc..
[05:52] <shadeslayer> ah :)
[05:52] <ScottK> Good morning.
[05:53] <shadeslayer> buenos dias
[05:55] <ScottK> OK.  Off to bed with me.
[05:58] <shadeslayer> night
[06:19] <yofel> hm....
[06:19]  * yofel just realized that shadeslayer moved to his timezone
[06:19] <yofel> good morning ^^
[08:17] <smartboyhw> EW, not another typhoon-.-
[08:52] <Noskcaj> I can't find your "magical" hooks branch. Where did it go?
[09:03] <Riddell> Noskcaj: hooks branch of what?
[09:04] <Noskcaj> Riddell, pbuilder
[09:04] <Riddell> oh pbuilder mostly confuses me
[09:05] <Noskcaj> I'm trying to find it because i'm using yof el's pbuilderrc but can't get debian or tanglu to work
[09:05] <Riddell> pbuilder-scripts might be something?
[09:05] <Riddell> ubuntu-dev-tools has pbuilder-dist
[09:16] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ooh you sorted the kwallet issue?
[09:36] <yofel> hm, if he gets back, our hooks are at https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/pbuilder/pbuilder-hooks
[10:36] <Riddell> well this leaves something to be desired http://people.ubuntu.com/~jr/tmp/plasma-active-4.png
[11:02] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:03] <vHanda> apachelogger: ping
[11:03] <apachelogger> vHanda: emit pong();
[11:03] <vHanda> apachelogger: are the Phonon qml bindings functional?
[11:03] <apachelogger> no
[11:03] <apachelogger> why?
[11:04] <vHanda> well, I wanted to use them and I haven't managed to get the example to run
[11:04] <apachelogger> what for do you want to use them? :P
[11:04] <vHanda> for showing a video, and playing an audio file
[11:05] <apachelogger> I'd avoid video in qt4
[11:05] <apachelogger> well, qml1
[11:05] <vHanda> well, I can't move to qml2 right now. I'm targeting KDE4.
[11:06] <vHanda> For Audio, I can use the qml bindings?
[11:06] <apachelogger> in theory
[11:06] <apachelogger> they are not built by default nor is it advised to do so (mostly because that also drags in video :@)
[11:06] <apachelogger> vHanda: I suggest you simply copy the qml elements from the phonon source tree into your own
[11:07] <apachelogger> they don't use private interfaces I think
[11:07] <apachelogger> oh OTOH
[11:07] <apachelogger> no, should work ^^
[11:07] <vHanda> so, I'll need to copy audiooutputelement.* and ?
[11:07] <apachelogger> mediaelement and mediasourceelement
[11:08] <apachelogger> vHanda: abstractinitable.* audiooutput* mediaelement* metadata*
[11:09] <apachelogger> https://projects.kde.org/projects/kdesupport/phonon/phonon/repository/revisions/master/entry/demos/qml/audioplayer/audioplayer.qml demo
[11:10] <apachelogger> basically Media { AudioOutput {} }
[11:10] <vHanda> thank you
[11:51] <smartboyhw> Riddell, did you saw my e-mail reply Re: Beta 2 in your inbox?
[11:53] <Riddell> ScottK: bug 1227602 for your consideration
[11:53] <smartboyhw> \o/ Active 4.0
[11:53] <Riddell> smartboyhw: yep, looking like the job is yours with ScottK as product manager for final signoff
[11:54] <smartboyhw> Riddell, ACK
[11:54] <Riddell> smartboyhw: but remember, with great responsibility comes great power, can you handle the power?
[11:55] <smartboyhw> Riddell, yes
[11:57] <Riddell> :)
[11:57] <Riddell> smartboyhw: won't you be busy with your other flavours?
[11:57] <smartboyhw> Riddell, QUITE.
[11:58] <smartboyhw> Actually, now I thought of it, I've been called to do some ad-hoc. Maybe I should quit then
[11:58] <smartboyhw> Riddell, find yofel :P
[11:59] <yofel> forget it, I'll have school during that time and will be offline most of the day
[11:59] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, ?
[12:00] <smartboyhw> Ad-hoc = Lubuntu (due to phillw nominating me to temporaily do his job)
[12:05] <ScottK> Riddell: Approved.
[12:06] <Riddell> awooga!
[12:06] <Riddell> smartboyhw: can't we just say come back phillw all is forgiven?
[12:08] <ScottK> Riddell: pykde4 on armhf is still a problem.  Upstream don't seem exactly focused on it.
[12:08] <ScottK> The latest and greatest is in the archive.
[12:09]  * ScottK needs to go focus on $work.
[12:14] <Riddell> yeah going to look at that shortly
[12:17] <ScottK> Riddell: If you want to build something on my arm box, be sure to grab a copy of the saucy chroot tarball out of my home directory.  It's got a modified eglibc to work with the older kernel on that box.  Also, you may have to login --save-after-login and manually update to update it.
[12:18] <Riddell> nah I'm working from home today, can use my pandaboards
[12:26] <smartboyhw> Riddell, but he just doesn't want to come back yet
[12:26] <smartboyhw> He's a bit exhausted
[12:32] <smartboyhw> UserInterfaceFreeze and DocStringFreeze is in effect, WARNING:P
[12:43] <smartboyhw> Seriously, can someone take over the Beta 2 stuff?
[12:44] <Riddell> smartboyhw: which beta 2 stuff?
[12:44] <smartboyhw> Riddell, the one we were talking about 1 hour ago:)
[12:47] <Riddell> smartboyhw: mm hangon we might be getting crossed threads
[12:47] <smartboyhw> Riddell, crossed threads!?
[12:47] <smartboyhw> 0-0
[12:47] <Riddell> smartboyhw: I'll be around all this week, it's final release when I'll be recovering from surgery
[12:47] <smartboyhw> Riddell, ah hah
[12:48] <smartboyhw> Hmm, Final
[12:48]  * smartboyhw is now worried about responsibilities and power:P
[12:52] <smartboyhw> Fortunately, my duties are normally a bit less during final, since our project lead at Studio wants to do the main pieces of work himself:P
[12:53] <Riddell> I expect to be around just at very low capacity
[12:53] <Riddell> and of course worse case I'll be changing focus to work on accessibility entirely
[12:55] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I can take it up
[12:55] <shadeslayer> if it's necessary
[12:55] <Riddell> shadeslayer: final releaes?
[12:55] <shadeslayer> yeah
[12:56] <Riddell> groovy, so between the three of you it'll be all good
[12:56] <Riddell> although three people with nicks starting with s might confuse the tab key
[12:58] <shadeslayer> override_dh_auto_configure:
[12:58] <shadeslayer>         true
[12:58] <shadeslayer> awesome ....
[13:07] <yofel> shadeslayer: that's how true auto configuration looks like ;P
[13:08] <shadeslayer> took me a second to get that ;)
[13:08] <shadeslayer> anyone tried out arm64?
[13:09] <smartboyhw> override_dh_auto_configure:
[13:09] <smartboyhw> for qDEB_HOST_ARCHITECTURE=(arm64 name0
[13:10] <smartboyhw> / TODO: Try it out!
[13:11] <smartboyhw> Someone made a test build of Saucy archive: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20130917-saucy.html
[13:11] <shadeslayer> yep saw that last night
[13:12] <smartboyhw> Well, I just saw it coming through a mail
[13:12] <Riddell> 12 things for us http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20130917-saucy.html#kubuntu
[13:12] <shadeslayer> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/#kubuntu for some reason lists flask
[13:12] <shadeslayer> I had a quick look through all of those before heading back to the room :)
[13:12] <smartboyhw> heh
[13:20] <Riddell> ScottK: bodega-client for your review https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+queue
[13:21] <shadeslayer> ScottK: pbuilder-dist still can't find the saucy tar, did you have some sort of config file?
[13:30] <shadeslayer> so close https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/firefox/+packages
[13:31] <smartboyhw> and yet so far:P
[13:31] <shadeslayer> well, atleast I can test Saucy ;)
[13:34] <shadeslayer> anyone else want to test out FF 24 with KDE integration ?
[13:41] <smartboyhw> LIKE https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.8/4.8.1-10ubuntu3/+build/4979394
[13:42] <shadeslayer>  Build score:99999999 (What's this?)
[13:42] <shadeslayer> hhahaha
[13:42] <smartboyhw> 99999999, and it's been building for 6 days;)
[13:42] <shadeslayer> heh
[13:42] <smartboyhw> Not really
[13:42] <smartboyhw> 2 days
[13:43] <smartboyhw> That's long, considering this is ARMv8
[13:43] <shadeslayer> I recall gcc builds gcc builds gcc
[13:43] <shadeslayer> so it's built like thrice or sth
[13:44]  * shadeslayer grumbles about arm
[13:49]  * shadeslayer manually crafts pbuilder command
[14:26] <smartboyhw> Riddell, someone asked me for some Archive Admin approval of Bug 1226492
[14:26] <smartboyhw> Please check:)
[14:26] <smartboyhw> (And BTW, is ubottu not responding to bugs?)
[14:28] <skellat> smartboyhw: ubottu isn't doing so hot at the moment, it seems
[14:31] <debfx> poor ubottu, never gets to take a break
[14:34] <Riddell> smartboyhw: he wants to subscribe ~ubuntu-release
[14:35] <Riddell> smartboyhw: oh wait I'm wrong
[14:35] <Riddell> -release has approved if -admin reviews it
[14:35] <Riddell> smartboyhw: approved
[14:47] <Riddell> ScottK: hmm I'm not convinced there are any working arm images for saucy for pandeboard
[17:19] <lordievader> Good evening.
[22:56] <Riddell> davmor2: winter is coming, fortunately kubuntu keeps everyone warm http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/nim-kubuntu.jpg
[23:03]  * Riddell blogs http://blogs.kde.org/2013/09/20/winter-coming