[00:01] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: if the driver and the bluetooth dongle are not working properly, will i be able to send files from my mobile?
[00:02] <moetunes> phoenix_firebrd:  seems that usb dongle is a proprietry one that needs the makers software from what I've found on google so far
[00:03] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: ya that may be true,but how come its partially working
[00:04] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: do you want a hcidump output?
[00:04] <moetunes> phoenix_firebrd:  nope
[00:05] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: is your bluetooth working properly
[00:05] <moetunes> phoenix_firebrd:  you can try the suggestions here - http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/2376/bluetooth-installation-issue/ - but if they don't work I think you are out of luck with that device
[00:06] <moetunes> phoenix_firebrd:  I don't have any bluetooth devices
[00:06] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: ok
[00:06] <moetunes> luck :)
[00:16] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: tried those thinks earlier, that didnt work
[00:16] <phoenix_firebrd> things
[00:19] <moetunes> phoenix_firebrd:  I guess you have to accept that without the makers software you can't use that device...
[00:19] <olskolirc> hey where is .bash_profile in karmic?
[00:20] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: ya, i am tried to hack their software
[00:20] <andrew__> hello there, is this the right place to ask for help with kubuntu?
[00:21] <olskolirc> !ask
[00:25] <andrew__> Ok, here comes.  Used to have 10.04 Ubuntu with kubuntu metapackage installed manually.  Yesterday got a new external harddrive, which gave me the opportunity to nuke the entire harddrive and do a quick 10.10 Maverick install, I gave it the whole internal drive.  Unfortunately, so far it's been really choppy -- it takes 2 sec. after a click for a menu/app-icon to open, 2 sec to switch between tabs in rekonq etc.  installing propriertary nvidia drivers
[00:25] <andrew__> made it better, but it's still very choppy.  any idea why?
[00:26] <andrew__> the installation was totally pure, it's right our of the live usb.  but i ran all the upgrades
[00:27] <moetunes> is it a large partition?
[00:28] <andrew__> 120 GB
[00:28] <andrew__> also, it takes like 3-5 sec to switch from this window to rekonq
[00:29] <moetunes> have you checked in   top   to see if there is something using resources?
[00:32] <andrew__> yeah, plasma-desktop is between 75-84% of cpu, with Xorg jumping up to it once in awhile
[00:33] <moetunes> that'll be why it is slow to do stuff then
[00:34] <andrew__> ok, i'll try to disable more stuff
[00:34] <andrew__> there's also a very specific problem
[00:34] <moetunes> I think it is the nvidia driver
[00:34] <andrew__> ok?
[00:34] <andrew__> it was worse before...;
[00:35] <andrew__> or should i tweak nvidia-desktop settings or something?
[00:35] <moetunes> I would try the driver from the repo maybe
[00:35] <andrew__> ok that's the other thing
[00:37] <andrew__> kpackagekit lists the kubuntu updates ppa on the top.  the website, and the repo itself, obviously contains packages like meta-kde.  but kpackagekit doesn't find it.  also, it registers current kde-l10l-engb to be at 4.5.1, and doesn't notice that there's 4.5.3 ??????????
[00:37] <andrew__> at the same time, it finds other 4.5.3 things... ??
[00:38] <andrew__> so u think is should disable the nvidia driver?
[00:38] <moetunes> you did   apt-get update && apt-get upgrade   ?
[00:39] <moetunes> yep - I would try anything else since the driver now isn't working good
[00:39] <andrew__> well i did everything from kpackagekit.  let me try it from the command line
[00:40] <andrew__> oooh
[00:40] <andrew__> it says
[00:40] <andrew__> GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[00:40] <FloodBotK1> andrew__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:40] <FloodBotK2> andrew__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:42] <andrew__> and apt-get still can't locate meta-kde
[00:43] <andrew__> is it the right package to install everything btw?
[00:43] <moetunes> it should be - you'll need to fix the key thing first tho
[00:45] <andrew__> how ?
[00:45] <andrew__> and shouldn't kpackagekit have noticed that problem?
[00:47] <moetunes> probably it should have - follow the guide for adding the ppa again - I'm sure it will mention the key
[00:48] <moetunes> I never bother with ppa's
[00:48] <andrew__> so you update everything manually?
[00:50] <moetunes> yep, I'm old school - and you get more info using the terminal as you just found out
[00:50] <andrew__> nothing about the key here
[00:50] <andrew__> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[00:53] <andrew__> the thing is.  tomorrow i had the older version and it worked better :-/
[00:53] <moetunes> you have a time machine?
[00:54] <andrew__> i used
[00:54] <andrew__> to
[00:56] <andrew__> actually, now it's Xorg that seems to be the culprit
[01:00] <andrew__> by the way, do you know what this might mean? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:00] <andrew__> oops]
[01:00] <andrew__> VALIDATION ERROR:  Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[01:00] <andrew__> Undefined Device "(null)" referenced by Screen "Default Screen".
[01:01] <moetunes> sounds like the nvidia installed didn't write the xorg.conf file write
[01:01] <moetunes> s/installed/install/
[01:02] <andrew__> yeah, i just noticed this too.  it says ERROR: Unable to open X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' for writing.
[01:02] <andrew__> even though i started it with sudo
[01:04] <andrew__> and from the root shell i get root@o:/home/andrew# nvidia-settings
[01:04] <andrew__> No protocol specified
[01:04] <andrew__> ERROR: The control display is undefined; please run `nvidia-settings --help` for usage information.
[01:06] <andrew__> so how would you approach a problem like this?
[01:07] <moetunes> I wouild do   nvidia-settings --help
[01:08] <moetunes> you have a bad nvidia driver install and a poorly added ppa it seems - neither of which I have much experience with
[01:12] <andrew__> ok moetunes thanks anyway
[01:14] <andrew__> oops
[01:15] <moetunes> doesn't sound good
[01:17] <andrew__> do you know of any other places to ask?
[01:18] <moetunes> he's the right place you just asked during a quiet time - you could try in #ubuntu
[01:18] <moetunes> *here's
[01:46] <jmichaelx> it's almost always quiet time in #kubuntu.... it's been that way since the KDE4.0 release, when KDE's user base was decimated
[01:47] <moetunes> and sunday is always quieter on irc
[01:48] <andrew__> ok, now i have a more serious problem.  why isn't apt-get upgrade extensionally equivalent with clicking "check for new updates" in kPackageKit?
[01:48] <andrew__> I do not really mind using the CL, but new users will not be helped by the fact that the graphical installer/updater doesn't do its job
[01:49] <moetunes> checking for updates is diff to actually installing the updates
[01:49] <andrew__> yeah, but it doesn't find any to install
[01:49] <andrew__> and apt-get finds 60MBs worth of updates to install
[01:49] <moetunes> you must be updated then
[01:49] <moetunes> oh
[01:50] <andrew__> then again
[01:50] <andrew__> kpackagekit also crashes pretty often
[01:50] <andrew__> with segmentation fault
[01:52] <andrew__> not being a power user, I think KDE is very cool.  but all of these issues should obviously be fixed.
[01:52] <moetunes> since all these errors aren't something most ppl experience it seems something didn't go right with your install maybe
[01:53] <andrew__> maybe :-/
[01:53] <andrew__> it was from live usb
[01:53] <cxo> So i installed kubuntu-8.10 in qemu for some testing and i cant seem to update it. I tries to fetch package lists but all the sources come up as Failed. Is this a qemu issue? The internet works in the guest.
[01:54] <cxo> qemu networking does not support icmp, so if its tries to check the servers using that, its going to fail
[01:54] <bazhang> cxo, 8.10 is end of life, and thus not supported any longer
[01:54] <andrew__> poor 8.10
[01:55] <cxo> awww
[01:55] <cxo> Everyone aww
[01:55] <bazhang> cxo, get a more recent version
[01:56] <cxo> I need that version specifically. Just need to install a few packages. I guess i'l have to do it the old fashioned way
[01:58] <cxo> So if a distro is EOL, all the repos for it get shutdown?
[01:58] <bazhang> you could try old-releases.ubuntu.com  but for security stuff, yeah
[01:59] <bazhang> that ^ would be for purposes of upgrades, though
[01:59] <cxo> i just need some multimedia packages
[02:00] <bazhang> which ones
[02:01] <cxo> xine, ffmpeg, among others
[02:01] <cxo> how do i add a path from that old-releases.ubuntu.com to my apt sources?
[02:01] <bazhang> why do you need such old versions of those
[02:16] <Taggnostr> hello
[02:18] <Taggnostr> I added a line in /etc/fstab and when I started the pc I think I saw an error message from fstab flashing briefly before the login screen, but I didn't manage to read it. Where can I find it? I didn't see anything in /var/logs/messages and the mount seem to work fine
[02:19] <Roxy_> djustice_f:  just to let you kno i will iss you hun
[02:19] <Roxy_> ops
[02:19] <Roxy_> haha
[02:21] <cxo> That repos worked out well. It should have been pushed out as the default for all those old distros when they were EOL'd
[02:21] <moetunes> Taggnostr:  have a look in tty1 - ctrl+alt+F1 to get there - alt+F7 to get back
[02:22] <Taggnostr> yep, the error is there
[02:23] <andrew_____> Could someone please help me resolve the contradiction between http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/m/ and the first and last lines of http://dpaste.org/5Exd/
[02:24] <Taggnostr> it says "CIFS VFS: error connecting to socket, aborting operation" and "cifs_mount failed w/return code =-101"
[02:27] <cxo> The foresight of this guy is amazing. Its even more true now than in 2002. http://inmyholyopinion.com/2007/05/11/gnome-vs-kde/
[02:53] <andrew______> i want to apt-get install meta-kde
[03:02] <valorie> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/meta-kde
[03:02] <valorie> it does exist.....
[03:02] <chalcedony> hey valorie :)
[03:02] <valorie> hi chalcedony
[03:02] <chalcedony> :)
[03:02] <valorie> what release, andrew______
[03:02] <valorie> ?
[03:03] <valorie> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde is all of 'em
[03:03] <andrew______> is there a way to install them with one command?
[03:04] <andrew______> oh, i see. never mind
[03:45] <renny> anybody installed yahoomesanger with in kubuntu?/////
[03:45] <renny> please help
[04:35] <ner0x> Is there a way to cat a file into the clipboard?
[04:44] <moetunes> ner0x:  xclip seems a popular way - http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=31011&start=0
[04:44] <ner0x> moetunes: Thank you.
[04:59] <chinmaya> with qt4.7.1 released , can anyone please share the repository to add so as to ugrade to qt 4.7.1 from 4.7
[05:00] <se7en_> is there still a meta package for all the non-free packages?
[05:03] <se7en_> how do i install vitualbox-non-ose on kubuntu?
[05:04] <moetunes> grab it from vbox maybe
[05:05] <moetunes> !vbox
[05:06] <se7en_> thanks moetunes and do you happen to know if there is still a non-free package for kubuntu and if what the packagename is?
[05:06] <moetunes> se7en_:  non free package of what app?
[05:21] <valorie> !codecs
[05:22] <valorie> if you are looking for the restricted formats, etc., that should help, se7en_
[05:22] <se7en_> moetunes: all of them ... years ago there was a kubunut-non-free package ... o
[05:22] <valorie> that one is kubuntu-restricted-formats or something like that
[05:22] <moetunes> !partner
[05:22] <valorie> but there will be links to what you need
[05:23] <se7en_> kubuntu-restricted-extras ... that was the package name :) thanks valorie
[05:24] <valorie> *extras*!
[05:24] <valorie> sheesh
[05:24] <valorie> I should know that
[05:25] <se7en_> pulls in (or used to) microsoft fonts, java, flash usw ...
[05:25] <valorie> yup
[05:25] <se7en_> thanks
[05:26] <valorie> RMS rolls over in his cave
[05:26] <surgy> you guys suck
[05:26] <valorie> what?
[05:26] <se7en_> yes suck what?
[05:26] <valorie> keeping in mind the Code of Conduct.....
[05:27] <moetunes> no need to feed the trolls ppl :)
[05:28] <se7en_> not very hungry anyway :)
[05:29] <se7en_> does the kubuntu cd version have open office?
[05:30] <valorie> yes
[05:30] <valorie> 10.10 still does
[05:30] <se7en_> in the cd and dvd version valorie
[05:31] <se7en_> ?
[05:31] <valorie> cd
[05:31] <valorie> is what I used to install
[05:31] <valorie> I assume the dvd has that and more
[05:31] <se7en_> nice i rather install the apps I need myselfe but OO.org is nice if it is included
[05:31] <valorie> I've never dl'd that
[05:32] <se7en_> cool I don't need to download the DVD then
[05:53] <astronaut> hey
[05:55] <astronaut> hi
[05:55] <astronaut> are you here?
[06:33] <Dragynbane> Hey, on Kubuntu, how would I go about getting the Ubuntu desktop while keeping Kubuntu?
[06:33] <Dragynbane> anyone?
[06:37] <moetunes> Dragnslcr:  install ubuntu-desktop
[06:37] <moetunes> oops
[07:02] <kumar> anybody expert in bluedevil
[07:49] <Natsume> kde
[11:19] <g4> Hi guys
[11:20] <g4> I just install kubuntu for the first time, can anyone help me? I would like to know whats the best antivirus for the kubuntu?
[11:22] <g4> anyone?
[11:24] <valorie> g4, why do you need an antivirus?
[11:25] <valorie> I've never needed one, in almost 10 years of using linux
[11:25] <valorie> however, clamav is highly regarded
[11:25] <g4> valorie-i still got windows installed and just it would make me feel better if I had any kind of protection
[11:25] <g4> thank you very much Valorie
[11:26] <valorie> mostly k/ubuntu users use that to fix their family's windows computers
[11:26] <valorie> :-)
[11:26] <valorie> works everywhere, I think
[11:26] <g4> ok, thank you very much for the help
[13:57] <Romil> bom dia
[14:01] <skafti_> hei
[14:02] <skafti_> does someone know how to configure vuze ?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[14:03] <skafti_> i probably the wrong port or something
[14:03] <skafti_> 502 bad gateway
[14:05] <BluesKaj> port forward the tcp udv port on your router , best to use ports above 50k, skafti_
[14:06] <BluesKaj> same settings in vuze
[15:04] <Romil> algume me diz ai como ver filmes rmvb no kde pelo kmplayer
[15:06] <tsimpson> !br | Romil
[15:07] <Romil> ok. thanks
[15:30] <Guilo> Hi !
[15:30] <Guilo> In my kubuntu 10.10 kpackagekit only show me 3 updates whereas apt-get upgrade shows 143
[15:30] <Guilo> is this a bug or is there a reason ?
[15:40] <spirov92> hi, I'm trying to convert some touchpad drivers from .rpm to .deb using alien, the output says "synaptics-touchpad_<IP_ADDRESS>-14_i386.deb generated" , but a file doesn't appear
[15:40] <spirov92> can anyone help
[15:41] <spirov92> btw these are drivers from the HP site
[15:48] <kuvutu> why is kubuntu forum separate?
[15:48] <kuvutu> why can't I use the same id?
[15:49] <kuvutu> imho kubuntu could be better off as a sub-forum in the Ubuntu forum
[16:17] <g4> noob question here-whats the best c++ compiler for kubuntu?
[16:18] <ikonia> best ?
[16:18] <ikonia> it's personal preference, the main one in use is gcc
[16:21] <g4> thank you
[16:26] <sobczyk> hi, is there a recommended webcam app for KDE? ie. taking photos
[16:32] <markit> hi, is there an equivalent of kde 3.5 "konqueror system:/" to show all system resources in KDE 4.5.x?
[16:32] <markit> I've been asked by a friend of mine, but can't find a solution with google
[16:33] <edgaro> hi
[16:42] <BluesKaj> markit, system resources ?
[16:43] <markit> BluesKaj: what do you mean? he wants an icon on the desktop, so the student clicks it and opens the system resources
[16:43] <markit> is there a "system resource" program?
[16:43] <BluesKaj> system settings maybe
[16:44] <markit> system settings is to set, not to show disks, network, etc. available to the system
[16:45] <BluesKaj> oh you mean dolphin places
[16:45] <markit> something like that... he tells that konqueror system:/ did more
[16:46] <Space_Man> kde 3.5.11 "konqueror system:/" shows Documents Folder, Home Folder, Remote Places, Storage Media, Users Folders
[16:47] <BluesKaj>  /home /network /root...dolphin replaces konqueror as the default file manager in kde4
[16:49] <markit> Space_Man: any idea about how to put an incon in the desktop and have those "places" shown as a folder?
[16:49] <markit> or the only way is to run dolphin?
[16:50] <Space_Man> markit: I probably can't help you, I'm still using kde 3.5
[16:51] <Space_Man> Remote Places is a shortcut to system:/remote
[16:51] <Space_Man> Storage Media -> system:/media
[16:51] <Space_Man> Users Folders -> system:/users
[16:53] <BluesKaj> markit, I just put dolphin or konqueror as the case may be in the panel , I don't bother with desktop icons
[16:53] <Space_Man> Documents Folder -> /home/user_name/Documents and Home Folder -> /home/user_name/
[16:54] <markit> my friend is preparing a multi-desktop customized distro, as far as I can understand
[16:54] <markit> and tells that Nautilus has this feature, and it was in kde 3.5, so is wondering how could it be missing in 4.x
[16:54] <Space_Man> things change :)
[16:55] <markit> that's all, I will report back your suggestions, thanks a lot
[16:55] <markit> lol, yes, should change in better though
[16:56] <Space_Man> kde3 also has a "system menu" menu applet that you can add to the panel, the "system menu" has the same shortcuts
[16:56] <Space_Man> maybe kde4 has a similar feature
[16:58] <BluesKaj> yeah the Kmenu is still there in kde4
[16:59] <BluesKaj> time for you guys to upgrade ..kde4 is very stable and easier on the eyes as well
[17:00] <markit> I've put a folder widget in the desktop
[17:00] <markit> and tried to create a system:/media shortcut
[17:00] <markit> but seems it does not work
[17:00] <markit> if I double click the icon does not open system:/media
[17:01] <markit> mm of course, system:/media is not valid protocol in kde4
[17:01] <markit> I'm too ignorant in kde4 insite
[17:02] <jessica_> Kubuntu is really cool ;-)
[17:12] <BluesKaj> yes jessica_ especially the latest distros , altho some bugs with graphics cards still remain unresolved, over all it's quite satisfying
[17:26] <PasNox> Hi
[17:26] <PasNox> i'm runing kubuntu 10.10 - i i have to use private include of qt 4 package , but i can't see any private include, nor a package to install them, what i can do / install for that?
[17:26] <jessica_> Yes, I got some problems with menu.lst not being updated.
[17:27] <jessica_> Just had to delete and link it to grub.cfg
[17:27] <jessica_> I don't understand your question PasNox
[17:28] <jessica_> Do you mean that you need some private repository for KPackageKit ?
[17:28] <PasNox> jessica_: Qt source have some private includes - like: qt_X11_p.h
[17:28] <PasNox> the qt4 package in kubuntu don't install these private header
[17:28] <James147> jessica_: menu.lst is used by grub1, not grub2 which has been the default since 9.10... you shouldnet edit grub.cfg though, as it is auto generated by update-grub
[17:28] <PasNox> but some distrob does - kubuntu was doing it too if i recall correctly
[17:28] <PasNox> but currently i can't find package to install them :/
[17:29] <PasNox> and i need to use a private header in my aplication
[17:29] <jessica_> OK
[17:29] <James147> PasNox: what do you mean by private headers? and ahve you installed the -dev packages?
[17:30] <PasNox> James147: private headers are includes that developpers should normally not use - not being officially part of Qt, but that are sometimes usefull
[17:30] <PasNox> i can build qt4 app without problem, all is working fine, i just want to include a private header but it seem they are not installed :/
[17:31] <jemand> Hi all, since 2 days Kopete loads, eats 2/3rds of my CPU and does only show the icon in the tray. NO KOPETE CHAT WINDOW shows up. ;-(
[17:31] <jemand> It's on Kubuntu 10.10 KDE 4.5.3
[17:31] <PasNox> James147: this is an example of qt private header: http://pastebin.com/7VKykfHN
[17:31] <jemand> Any ideas?
[17:33] <markit> anyone knows where I can set things so the user has only the "shutdown" and "leave session" options? DOn't want them to change user, or lock the session, or worse hybernate or suspend the ltsp server
[17:34] <James147> jemand: you should try it on a new user, if it works there then i suggest resetting kopete to its default settings (by renaming ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc)
[17:35] <jemand> OK James147 I
[17:36] <PasNox> jessica_, James147: bah too bad, it seem ubuntu / kubuntu packager forgot to package private header for qt4, qt3 have the private includes :'(
[17:38] <BluesKaj> jemand, perhaps a different irc client might cause less grief.
[17:39] <BluesKaj> even quassel works better now , but konversation is the best IMO
[17:50] <jessica_> My boot problem is not fixed..
[17:50] <jessica_> In fact the menu.lst was outdated, but the grub.cfg was OK
[17:50] <jessica_> So, I first tried with a symbolic link.
[17:51] <James147> jemand: menu.lst is no longer used, thats why its oudated
[17:51] <jessica_> It didn't work. So I now tried with a normal link.
[17:51] <James147> jessica_: ^^ sorry :S
[17:51] <James147> jessica_: what exactly is your problem?
[17:52] <jessica_> Ok James, so why I fall in the grub prompt immediately at boot.
[17:52] <jessica_> I have to enter manually kernel, init & boot cmds to boot.
[17:52] <James147> jessica_: what happens if you run "sudo update-grub"?
[17:53] <jemand> James147 : does it mean I have to wait for an update?
[17:54] <jessica_> so. I removed the useless menu.lst
[17:54] <James147> jessica_: no, update-grub will regenerate the grub.cfg file
[17:55] <jessica_> check my /etc/default/grub where I commented the HIDDEN timeout and used the grub-install script on /dev/sda
[17:55] <jessica_> It's far better now, as my system boots.
[17:56] <jessica_> But reports some syntax error (grub)
[17:56] <jessica_> I'll regenerate config.
[17:56] <jessica_> as you suggested with the update-grub
[17:56] <James147> jessica_: hmm, well grub-install should run update-grub
[17:56] <James147> as fara s i know
[17:57] <jessica_> Maybe... it's not very verbose...
[17:57] <jessica_> no it's not starting update-grub
[17:58] <James147> not starting?
[17:58] <jessica_> What is the grub hidden timeout parameter ? Should I leave it to 0 ?
[17:58] <aicram> Hello. Just installed kxstudio. Like it. What do I install to get the right click change desktop wallpaper feature? I asked already fxstudio irc. No response. Thank you very much.
[17:59] <James147> jessica_: I would think its the timeout when the menu is hidden (note that mine is commented out here)
[17:59] <aicram> I mean I asked kxstudio irc-please excuse typo. Thank you.
[18:00] <jessica_> What is kxstudio ?
[18:01] <aicram> It is like ubuntu studio with falktx's ppa. A new multimedia distro.
[18:02] <jessica_> I commented out it because I have a major problem with it on an other computer... So I uncommented it because I suspected it to cause the syntax error... Well anyway my system boots correctly.
[18:02] <jessica_> thanks aicram.
[18:02] <James147> aicram: on kde 4.5.3 here if the wallpaper is set to slideshow then right clicking offers teh option to go to the next background
[18:03] <jessica_> I think that's this parameter that completely hide the grub menu... I don't like this behaviour.
[18:04] <aicram> jessica: thank you. I will check on that. If you go to linuxmusicians forum they mention kxstudio favorably. Thanks again.
[18:05] <jjman6_> is anyone else experienceing what seems to be a memory leek w/ kmix (in 10.10)   memory usage just continually grows.  i've had it get up to 1.8gb  by which point it also seems to max out all 3 cores on my CPU as well.  And thus have to kill it
[18:06] <James147> jjman6_: O_o not seen if do that yet... could you try creating a new user and see if it does it for that user?
[18:07] <jjman6_> sure
[18:07] <James147> jjman6_: if it works as expected then you could try renmaing or moving kmixrc and or kmixctrlrc from ~/.kde/share/config to reset it to its default settings
[18:08] <jjman6_> how about i just do that instead  ;-)  easier than creating new user and running all the same apps i currently do
[18:08] <jjman6_> i'm a heavy multi-tasker so i have lots of apps open always
[18:09] <James147> jjman6_: :) you could,
[18:09] <jjman6_> what exactly is tored in kmixrc  ...ctrlrc
[18:10] <James147> jjman6_: not entirly sure about *ctrl* but kmixrc  should store the settings for kmix
[18:11] <jjman6_> i do have some other anonomolies w/ my sound  could be related.
[18:11] <jjman6_> my master volume is always muted on reboot  (minor but annoying)
[18:12] <jjman6_> some of my apps aren't producing sounds consistantly  like kopete notifications,  and thunderbird
[18:13] <James147> jjman6_: not sure, best way would be to create a new user to see if its a config related problem or something else
[18:14] <jjman6_> mmk.
[18:27] <lieuwe> why does system settings freeze when i try to test "playback/recording trough the pulseaudio sound server" under media?
[18:34] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: are you there?
[18:42] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: The bluetooth problem that we were discussing yeaterday is solved, the problem was my bluetooth dongle, its a cheap chinese duplicate. checked with another dongle everything worked perfectly
[18:46] <phoenix_firebrd> is the app updatedb uses lowlevel disk access
[18:47] <jjman6__> well i'm back in w/ a new user.   I found 2 more bugs.    Logging in as new user forces PW change fine, but it WON"T let me type at first.  so i just hit ok w/ blank then it allows me to enter a new PW.
[18:48] <jjman6__> & it crashed Kubuntu the 1st time doing it.
[19:45] <job_> list
[19:46] <jmho> hi, how can I use a pppoe internet connection with kubuntu 10.10. It was installed using the alternate CD (amd64). In the plasma widget I configured the connection, but there does not seem to be a "connect" button?
[20:01] <kumar> Does anybody having trouble with bluedevil killing your system on pairing pin input
[20:41] <vbgunz> anybody else was getting kicked out of the channel based on "ip open proxy etc"?
[20:42] <rysiek|pl> are you running a tor exit node?
[20:42] <vbgunz> rysiek|pl: I shouldn't be running any servers except for apache and that should be pretty much locked down to the local network only
[20:42] <rysiek|pl> vbgunz: do you have a dynamic IP?
[20:47] <vbgunz> rysiek|pl: yeah, should be dynamic
[20:48] <Roxy_> What is a good vid. recording program..... my kamoso when i record and play it, its like in fast mode...
[20:49] <rysiek|pl> vbgunz: maybe somebody that had this IP before you ran a TOR exit node or an open proxy
[20:49] <vbgunz> that was my first thought, I was gonna reset the modem hoping the ip would change but I didn't do it. anyhow, my ip is the same as it was yesterday with the open proxy messages but today I can access the channel...
[20:49] <rysiek|pl> vbgunz: the IP got banned
[20:49] <rysiek|pl> hmm
[20:49] <rysiek|pl> strange
[20:50] <vbgunz> so, I was curious if maybe just maybe there was an error on freenodes part and this may have affected more users in this channel vs just me
[20:50] <rysiek|pl> nothing I know of
[20:50] <rysiek|pl> but then I do not know much ;)
[20:51] <vbgunz> haha
[20:51] <plan_rich> Hey i recently checked on kubuntu release and i was supprised that there is an kubuntu mobile preview! I tested it in the VM and i really like it! Did someone flash it onto to n900 so far?
[20:51] <vbgunz> well gonna do some R&D, see ya in a bit :)
[20:52] <rysiek|pl> plan_rich: I don't think so. is it built for Arm? does it have the n900 drivers?
[20:52] <rysiek|pl> vbgunz: go for it
[20:52] <rysiek|pl> plan_rich: any linky-clicky?
[20:53] <plan_rich> y there is an arm build
[20:53] <plan_rich> linky-clicky?
[21:09] <plan_rich> where can i find the repository of the kubuntu mobile? Is there any documentation already?
[21:21] <e01> hello
[21:21] <e01> how can i adjust soundcard channels
[21:21] <e01> seems that kmix not provide such option
[21:22] <moetunes> try using alsamixer in a terminal
[21:22] <kilogolfsix> remove pulseaudio
[21:22] <kilogolfsix> alsamixer is prob the best method....
[21:23] <e01> there is no gui for this, right?
[21:24] <kilogolfsix> kmix is very limited with pulseaudio. If you want kmix to work like it should you must remove pulseaudio
[21:25] <e01> then why kubuntu come with pulseaudio
[21:25] <kilogolfsix> I dunno???  I am not a fan....
[21:27] <jmichaelx> in 10.10 i had to remove pulseaudio just to get decent sound from my intel HD audio
[21:28] <kilogolfsix> i was in the same boat with my VIA1708
[21:28] <kilogolfsix> its painless to remove pulse in Kubuntu... Ubuntu was a nightmare with Gnome
[21:28] <jmichaelx> pulseaudio can be great when it works, but it's GUI stuff is scattered and chaotic, all GTK-based and i just get tired of futzing with it
[21:29] <jmichaelx> yea, they have made it an integral part of ubuntu/gnome
[21:29] <e01> just ubuntu is for gnome
[21:30] <kilogolfsix> ya, ubuntu uses Gnome... but u can install KDE on it as well...
[21:33] <kilogolfsix> When I first installed 10.10 i tried adjusting audio channels with alsamixer. on exiting I ran 'sudo alsactl store' and rebooted... the settings were not restored...
[21:33] <e01> may be, but is more slowly than gnome
[21:33] <jmichaelx> does anyone know of a way to get rid of "This folder is empty." in folder view, besides putting something into its directory?
[21:33] <e01> i am not gnome fan, i was kde fan but now i am nothing fan
[21:35] <kilogolfsix> This folder is empty?  Im not sure what view your talking about? Is this in Dolphin?
[21:35] <jmichaelx> kilogolfsix: folder view
[21:36] <jmichaelx> kilogolfsix: right the desktop.... folder view is there by default...  maybe you're not using 10.10?
[21:36] <kilogolfsix> OH... THAT! :p
[21:36] <jmichaelx> yep, lol
[21:37] <kilogolfsix> sorry... I can't help you with that.
[21:37] <jmichaelx> i do not need it telling me that the obviously empty folder is empty
[21:37] <theannihilator> jmichaelx:
[21:37] <theannihilator> it is part of the theme
[21:38] <theannihilator> if your using kde
[21:38] <theannihilator> as far as gnome i do not know
[21:39] <jmichaelx> theannihilator: i have never seen a folder view in gnome... plus we are talking about kubuntu
[21:40] <theannihilator> lol
[21:40] <theannihilator> in kubuntu 10.04 and 10.10 you have a folder view of the desktop by default
[21:40] <jmichaelx> theannihilator: yes, why are you telling me this?
[21:40] <theannihilator> cause if you remove it you loose your desktop
[21:41] <jmichaelx> theannihilator: no, you just don't have folder view. your desktop dir is still there.... plus you can set folder view to show contents of any dir... and you can have multiple folder views
[21:42] <theannihilator> ok so how do you set it so your desktop dir is like kde3?
[21:43] <theannihilator> cause every time i deal with kd4 my desktop dir is folder view only
[21:43] <theannihilator> and i always get this folder is empty
[21:43] <kilogolfsix> I cant see any way to disable that text jmichaelx. I imagine its hard coded into it without a user option.
[21:44] <theannihilator> if there was i would love to know
[21:45] <kilogolfsix> the funny thing is, that folder has hidden items in it...
[21:45] <kilogolfsix> so really its not empty....  lol
[21:45] <jmichaelx> theannihilator: umm, i think what you are asking is how folder view could be set to full screen... and i think you can do that
[21:47] <jmichaelx> kilogolfsix: mine has a few hidden dirs in it, too
[21:48] <jmichaelx> to me that message is annoying
[21:48] <kilogolfsix> the folder view in general kinda bugs me. I miss KDE3 in that sense
[21:49] <theannihilator> i do too kilogolfsix  and no jmichaelx i already know how to do full screen and it blocks some shortcuts that i create form the kmenu
[21:49] <jmichaelx> kilogolfsix: i believe you can set folder view to fill your desktop, making things function in a similar way to kde3.x
[21:50] <theannihilator> the only thing that looks like kde 3 (well close to it) is lxde imo
[21:50] <kilogolfsix> ill give that a shot, thanks
[21:50] <theannihilator> xfce is close to the kde 3 look as well
[21:53] <kilogolfsix> got to run, BBL
[21:54] <jmichaelx> theannihilator: i am a KDE fan, but i am tempted to switch to xfce
[21:54] <jmichaelx> i like my kde plasma widgets pretty well, though
[21:54] <e01> jmichaelx: i was switched from xfce to gnome a year ago
[21:54] <theannihilator> jmichaelx: i been using kde since kde 1 but i do not like plasma
[21:54] <jmichaelx> and a number of other QT apps
[21:55] <e01> the only one thing that i like in kde is the dophin
[21:55] <theannihilator> dolphin?
[21:55] <jmichaelx> e01: i know it is almost entirely personal preference, but i have always much preferred XFCE to gnome
[21:55] <e01> dolphin& ye
[21:56] <theannihilator> i dont like gnome
[21:57] <e01> i don`t like it too, but when i want to use some application that have a heavy gnome dependancy it is horrible
[22:00] <theannihilator> i just install gnome and then use the gnome apps in another desktop
[22:04] <Axelio_> alguien que hable español?
[22:05] <jmichaelx> theannihilator: that works, but it seems as time goes on, gnome bleeds over into kde more and more if they are installed side by side
[22:05] <jmichaelx> !es
[22:09] <theannihilator> that is when it does become a pain
[22:20]  * crack05 is away (Gone)
[22:45] <Khas> Heya, where can I find the kwebkitpart in kubuntu so I can change konqueror to webkit engine?
[23:03] <irielfaid> Khas, http://digitizor.com/2010/08/11/how-to-switch-to-webkit-in-konqueror-browser-kde-sc-4-5kubuntu/
[23:04] <Khas> irielfaid, ta :-D
[23:04] <Khas> All working now
[23:04] <irielfaid> Nice.
[23:23] <pedro> hi there...as sson as I installed the nvidia driver, the fonts got reaaaly  small...how do I set this right?


[12:36] <xivulon> I think it's something to do with the loopdevices
[12:37] <xivulon> removing the loopdevice && mkfs.ext3 root.disk #works
[12:37] <xivulon> also recreating the loopdevices and running mkfs.ext3 /dev/loop2 works
[12:38] <xivulon> if I target the original loop devices though it jams
[12:41] <evand> hrm
[12:41] <evand> I'd say you're right then :)
[10:05] <CIA-18> ubiquity: superm1 * r2164 mythbuntu-ubiquity/ (3 files in 3 dirs): migrate to xfce autologin
[10:55] <xivulon> cjwatson, had a go at wubi yesterday, I also got stopped at mkfs create hournal
[10:56] <cjwatson> I'll switch back to non-sparse files post-beta like you suggested and we'll see how that goes
[10:56] <xivulon> I tried that but it did not make any difference
[10:56] <xivulon> the wierd thing is this
[10:57] <xivulon> if I stop just before the makefs command and run mkfs.ext3 /host/ubuntu/install/root.disk it works
[10:57] <xivulon> if I do the same targeting the loop device it does not
[10:57] <xivulon> but...
[10:58] <xivulon> if I create the file, loop device and run mkfs on the loopdevice without running ubiquity it also works
[10:59] <xivulon> I stopped there yesterday night, did not run any trace
[01:05] <xanax`> hello
[01:06] <xanax`> is this channel about wubi ?
[01:07] <cjwatson> 12:07 -!- Topic for #ubuntu-installer: Development of d-i and ubiquity in Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallerDevelopment
[01:07] <cjwatson> we have been working on integrating wubi lately, but if it's help with wubi you need then there may be better places
[01:08] <xanax`> ok
[01:08] <xivulon> xanax`: please use ubuntuforums.org
[01:10] <xanax`> Thanks. I will.
[01:15] <xivulon> xanax`: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234
[01:15] <xivulon> I am ago in the forum
[01:15] <xivulon> cjwatson any thought on previous comments?
[01:17] <cjwatson> not now, sorry
[01:20] <xivulon> cjwatson, I can try a bit tonight, but I will be away till monday
[01:28] <cjwatson> I'm sorry but it's beta day and I have a couple of important software deliveries to finalise
[01:28] <cjwatson> I won't have any time today
[01:33] <xivulon> np, if I find anything I'll send you an email, then we can resume on monday
[01:33] <xivulon> besto of luck with the beta!!!
[01:46] <xivulon> by the way cjwatson, we could have shipped wubi, limited to Use-CD/Read-Only mode, it would have been useful for people with bios issues. Don't know why I didn't think of that
[04:53] <mebrown> question: for automatic-ubiquity, I need to install language support for many languages (in oem-mode) so that the customer can choose their langauage on first boot
[04:54] <mebrown> I dont see anything in the preseed docs for installing multiple languages
[04:56] <cjwatson> mebrown: ought to be possible by preseeding pkgsel/language-packs (string type) to a space-separated list of language codes
[04:56] <mebrown> so something like:
[04:57] <mebrown> d-i pkgsel/lanague-packs string language-pack-XX language-pack-YY ...
[04:57] <mebrown> ?
[04:58] <cjwatson> not quite
[04:58] <cjwatson> d-i pkgsel/language-packs string XX YY
[04:59] <mebrown> Is it documented somewhere that I missed?
[05:00] <cjwatson> not that I can see, no
[05:00] <mebrown> ok. just making sure.
[05:00] <cjwatson> feel free to file a bug on installation-guide asking for that
[05:01] <mebrown> cjwatson,  I have been out of commission for a day and a half now, so I'm out of the loop... have you finished your beta-stuff?
[05:01] <cjwatson> I'm finishing for the day now, I got two hours of sleep last night and I think my wife would like to remember what I look like
[05:01] <cjwatson> mebrown: I've asked evand to take care of your automation needs
[05:01] <cjwatson> since he implemented ubiquity-automation in the first place :)
[05:03] <mebrown> ok. so I am getting up to speed on how gutsy dev works...
[05:03] <mebrown> how long would it take to get into a daily build?
[05:04] <cjwatson> it was my understanding that you would be OK with applying patches for a little while, and that getting into the archive was not immediately critical
[05:04] <mebrown> yes, it is.
[05:04] <mebrown> but inconvenient...
[05:04] <cjwatson> understood, but the archive doesn't unfreeze after beta until tomorrow, and we also have a responsibility not to break things for other users at this point
[05:05] <cjwatson> so Friday is a little bit short really
[05:05] <cjwatson> but anyway, in general it takes a couple of hours from upload to available-in-the-archive
[05:05] <mebrown> ok. was hoping something next week actually
[05:05] <mebrown> I already committed myself to using patches for my friday deadline
[05:05] <cjwatson> assuming that we have patches ready on Friday, that should be no problem
[05:06] <mebrown> Ok. Thanks.
[05:06] <mebrown> I'm off to hack on things for another round.
[06:23] <superm1> cjwatson, do you merge if i my changes back to the normal ubiquity branch now that the beta was released?
[07:03] <labroid> Hello?
[07:05] <labroid> I am unable to configure RAID and LVM via the Feisty installers (server and alternate tried).  I have also tried the shell within the installers to no avail.  Is this the right forum?
[07:06] <labroid> I will try general forums.  Thanks.
[08:35] <bdmurray> evand: bug 145727 might be a quick fix
[08:40] <evand> bdmurray: what did you have on your other partitions when you noticed this bug?
[08:42] <bdmurray> an exisitng gutsy install on one, my ext3 home partition on another and vista with ntfs
[08:42] <evand> ahh, that reinforces my theory that this only happens with Vista.  It may end up being a duplicate of 135149, but I wont know until I get logs for both bugs.
[08:43] <evand> thanks for bringing this to my attention
[08:44] <bdmurray> evand: I probably still have logs what do you need?
[08:45] <evand>  /var/log/installer/debug (wont be there unless you passed --debug) and /var/log/syslog
[08:47] <evand> If you don't have the time for that, don't worry about it.  I have a Vista install in VMWare and I'll see if I can reproduce this a little later in the day.
[08:47] <bdmurray> 145712 is probably related too
[08:51] <evand> hrmm, it looks like the same section of code, but a different bug.  I need to make that routine bulletproof before RC.  This is not the first time I've seen bugs related to mounting and unmounting partitions in m-a.
[09:03] <bdmurray> Would a bug report about the netboot belong with the debian-installer package?
[09:10] <evand> That's probably a good starting point for it.  netcfg might be more appropriate, but I am not certain about that.
[09:27] <bdmurray> I thought I had seen a bug report about language installation issues.  Is there a "master" bug for that?
[09:33] <evand> the one about the installer hanging when trying to download new lang packs?  Not that I know of.
[09:33] <evand> Feel free to make one :)
[11:16] <bdmurray> okay 145012 seems good and I found 2 dups so far
[11:21] <evand> wonderful
[11:21] <evand> to an extent :)
[11:55] <mebrown> cjwatson, ping... the early_command.diff you sent Tuesday appears to work ok
[12:07] <evand> mebrown: he left for the day, but I'll be happy to field any questions
[12:07] <mebrown> no questions for now.
[12:08] <evand> ok
[12:08] <mebrown> just wanted to let him know that the patch works (and hopefully will show up in a daily soon... :)
[12:08] <mebrown> now just looking at hacking something in for late_command
[12:08] <evand> indeed, I'm on it.  We should be able to get it in tomorrow when the archive re-opens
[12:09] <mebrown> ok.
[12:09] <mebrown> do you have a patch that I can apply locally?
[12:09] <mebrown> or should I just continue my hackish-hacking?
[12:09] <evand> I'm working on patches as we speak.  I have a patch for preseeding the reboot done and tested if you'd like it.
[12:10] <mebrown> dont absolutely need that one right now
[12:10] <mebrown> I need late_command
[12:10] <evand> ok
[12:10] <evand> I'll let you know as soon as I have that ready.
[12:10] <mebrown> because I can (will, actually) be scripting in a reboot in late_command, so the preseed for reboot is going to be more useful to other people.
[12:10] <mebrown> thanks.