[10:22] <eoke> matt____: A work around I've used in the past is getting the EDID data using the nvidia-settings tool and then using a CustomEDID reference in the Xorg conf file.
[10:22] <matt____> eoke: Oh, I never knew that. Do you know if it's possible to give the EDID data manually?
[10:22] <matt____> eoke: Oh - thanks. I'll look into that.
[10:23] <Taev> now do the aptitude search firefox?
[10:23] <gryllida> Taev: yes
[10:23]  * prince_jammys giggles.
[10:23] <eoke> matt____: I wasn't very clear sorry the nvidia-settings tool needs to be connected via DVI to save the EDID data to a file.
[10:23] <prince_jammys> let's try it fifteen times, maybe it works now.
[10:23] <Taev> which package should I install? firefox 2., firefox 3
[10:23] <Taev> they say they are dummy packages
[10:24] <Taev> I want a version other than 3.6.6.
[10:24] <prince_jammys> you don't really know what you want.
[10:24] <prince_jammys> you want firefox to work, that's what you want.
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> i  wonder if its a bad package/download. but it has checksums for that
[10:24] <codebrainz> Taev,   apt-get --reinstall --purge install firefox, try that?
[10:24] <Sagaci> Try chromium
[10:24] <Taev> fine ill try that right now
[10:24] <prince_jammys> don't invent what the problem is
[10:24] <codebrainz> ah, the up arrow key
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> 3.6.6 is the default. so thast will put 3.6.6 back on
[10:25] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: Why is it the default?  I'm seeing articles from last week describing how to install 3.6.6 on Ubuntu.
[10:25] <Taev> i did it
[10:25] <Taev> it crashed again
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> !info firefox
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  that factoid says its 3.6.6 now in main
[10:26] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: how do i purge my previous installation of filezilla?
[10:26] <Taev> so now that I've done that. How do I install a version of firefox other than 3.6.6.
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  i thought it was added to backports..but it seems they Updated main
[10:26] <codebrainz> Taev, have you run it from the terminal, to see what it's telling you is wrong?
[10:26] <Pirate_Hunter> sudo apt-get purge filezilla
[10:26] <Taev> Segmentation Fault
[10:26] <maxwellian> codebrainz: He said it was just a seg fault.
[10:26] <codebrainz> bleak
[10:26] <matt____> eoke: Sorry I don't understand fully... what do you mean nvidia-settings tool needs to be connected via DVI? Thanks
[10:27] <Taev> Look this shit only started when I updated to 3.6.6., so I want to install the previous package I had and see if it works
[10:27] <Taev> if it works then its 3.6.6. is buggy, if it doesn't it means its a problem with my system
[10:27] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, your problem seems to be unique only one listing of it and that has got no response coincidently it might have been you asking in ubuntu forums
[10:27] <Taev> there has got to be a directory ubuntu keeps of all the files they include with a release
[10:27] <codebrainz> 3.6.6 works fine here :)
[10:28] <Taev> so you're saying it can't possibly be a buggy package, and that trying it my way is a waste of time?
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> codebrainz:  which is why i wonder if his package is the issue.it may be currupted
[10:28] <Taev> because it works for your system...
[10:28] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: huh? i only posted my isssue in superuser. i did not post in ubuntu forums
[10:28] <eoke> matt____: The solution I've used in the past required me to connect the monitor to a DVI port initially, possibly on another machine altogether.  Theres then an "Acquire EDID" button in nvidia-settings.  This saves the EDID data to a file that you can then use when connecting via the VGA adapter.
[10:28] <codebrainz> Taev, you can see all the files with dpkg -s firefox
[10:28] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: He keeps re-installing it though.
[10:28] <Taev> look where does adept check for new ubuntu packages
[10:29] <Taev> there has got to be a list of the previous firefox .deb packages ubuntu has put out
[10:29] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, than it is someone else and it still has no response try to purge than reisntall it
[10:29] <maxwellian> Taev: Didn't you download one already?
[10:29] <maxwellian> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_3.6.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu4_i386.deb
[10:29] <codebrainz> err, Taev capitol -S
[10:29] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: i tried to use the completely removed, followed by an installaiton. stil the same thing
[10:29] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: where is that post you were talking about?
[10:30] <matt____> eoke: I got it that time... I'll go try, thanks for your help.
[10:30] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, if the samething happens try closing and running it from terminal it should tell you the problem
[10:30] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, one sec
[10:30] <maxwellian> Taev: Dr_Willis put a link to that page up like ten minutes ago.  But he wasn't able to do the downgrade, so I hope it works better for you.
[10:31] <prince_jammys>  http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/enwiki/en/XY_problem is a nice page you can visit when you get firefox fixed.
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  i tried via synaptic. dident try teh .deb
[10:31] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: Ah.
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  yes. he need to tell apt/aptitude to use the older version.
[10:32] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8737705
[10:32] <maxwellian> prince_jammys: Nice. :)
[10:33] <Pirate_Hunter> Dr_Willis, they've still have not resolved the FF issue even afetr choosing another version?
[10:33] <prince_jammys> maxwellian: text book example here, with many dragged in.
[10:33] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, does terminall tell you anything
[10:33] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: running filezilla from terminal made no difference. expect when i closed it
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> Pirate_Hunter:  whatg issue? ive not seen any issues
[10:33] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: kei@kei-laptop:~$ filezilla
[10:33] <Zeu5> (filezilla:30455): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `object->ref_count > 0' failed
[10:34] <maxwellian> prince_jammys: I think I'm gonna save that link for later...
[10:34] <Taev> well apparently i can't downgrade
[10:34] <Taev> dependency issues
[10:34] <prince_jammys> maxwellian: http://www.perlmonks.org/index.pl?node_id=542341
[10:34] <Taev> this is just great
[10:34] <maxwellian> Taev: What happened?
[10:34] <maxwellian> Taev: What did you try to do?
[10:34] <Taev> it wont install because of dependencies
[10:34] <Taev> so I forced it
[10:35] <Pirate_Hunter>  Dr_Willis, never mind I am resisting suggesting through pm maybe W$ would be better :(
[10:35] <Taev> won't run
[10:35] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, would've thought it would state anything about gtk hmmm
[10:35] <Taev> it seems to only crash on cnn.com
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_3.6.3+nobinonly-0ubuntu4_i386.deb
[10:35] <darkas> Hi! I'm having problems with my touchpad on the Acer Aspire 1830T (netbook remix, 10.4): any configuration I'm doing isn't applied. So the changes are done in the menus and are actually saved, but I can configure what I want without any effect. The relevant part of my Xorg.0.log is: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/64TE3nta
[10:35] <darkas> Is there anyone who could help me with that please?
[10:35] <maxwellian> Taev: What?!
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  so all this time i just crashes on ONE site?
[10:36] <Sagaci> Ask your question
[10:36] <Taev> No
[10:36] <maxwellian> Taev: Are you freaking kidding?
[10:36] <Taev> it just crashes reliably on cnn.com
[10:36] <Taev> it just crashed on slashdot 1 out of the 3 times i just reloaded it
[10:36] <maxwellian> Taev: Everything you've said so far is that it won't even run.
[10:36] <Taev> No I said it crashes
[10:36] <prince_jammys> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-noscript/+bug/231769
[10:36] <Taev> 100% of the time on cnn.com, 80% of the time with everything else
[10:36] <bleah> hy
[10:37] <bleah> i have a problem whit my webcam , the picture is upside down ... how can i fix thus problem , i have a laptop and i use lubuntu
[10:37] <prince_jammys> Taev: never mind, that's a bug for 'no-script' extension.
[10:38] <maxwellian> prince_jammys: Presumably he doesn't have any extensions, right?
[10:38] <Taev> so... it was a bug with 3.6.6.?
[10:38] <Taev> now how do I fix it?
[10:38] <prince_jammys> maxwellian: yes, just reinstalled.
[10:39] <prince_jammys> Taev: no, it's a mistake of mine. not a bug for you. it doesn mention cnn.com, coincidentally
[10:39] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: so what do i do now
[10:39] <eoke> bleah: You could try "echo 1 >/sys/class/video4linux/video0/vflip"
[10:39] <Zeu5> ?
[10:39] <prince_jammys> *does
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  you could also try gettting the packages from antoehr source/repository - it could be the .deb you are downloaading has some issues.
[10:39] <Taev> Firefox crashes at cnn.com is the headline
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> I cant find any hits at all on the forums with ff 3.6.6 crashing
[10:40] <bleah> eoke i get error , no such fie or diredtory
[10:40] <Taev> It crashes only sometimes (simply shuts down with no message) when visiting certain sites such as www.cnn.com, I receive the following error message if starting Firefox through the console, running on Ubuntu 8.04:
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> and cnn.com  is working here for 3.6.6 - and if its segfaulting theinstant it starts up..  i have to ask.. is cnn.com your homepage?
[10:40] <Taev> Im running 8.04
[10:40] <FloodBot1> Taev: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:40] <bleah> should i install any package _
[10:40] <Taev> its crashing for me at cnn.com
[10:40] <maxwellian> Taev: I'm just...astounded.
[10:40] <codebrainz> bleah, pastebin the output of 'ls /dev/video*'
[10:40] <prince_jammys> Taev: but you say it crashes in many other sites, too, correct?
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> 8.04 ? Hmm.. i dont recall you mentioning using  that old a version befor.
[10:40] <maxwellian> Taev: I understand that you are frustrated, but you are really making this difficult on yourself.
[10:40] <eoke> bleah: Could you pastebin the output of lsub as well please.
[10:41] <maxwellian> Taev: You're using 8.04?!
[10:41] <eoke> bleah: CORRECTION: Could you pastebin the output of lsusb as well please.
[10:41] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, for now you may want to try a different ftp client until I can find soemthing to resolve you problem, this problem should've been global not just on filezilla
[10:41] <prince_jammys> maxwellian: classic XY. tons of time wasted.
[10:41] <mouseover> What is the safe/correct place for me to edit .xinitrc files? of other X related files
[10:41] <eoke> Taev: Is firefox ok on sites that don't have flash content?
[10:41] <maxwellian> prince_jammys: This is almost funny now.
[10:42] <prince_jammys> maxwellian: happens all the time on irc :)
[10:42] <Taev> give me a site that doesn't have flash
[10:42] <Taev> as a control
[10:42] <codebrainz> mouseover, in ~/.xinitrc ... pretty safe :)
[10:42] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: sounds like you may need a while. i cannot be here for the rest of today. is there a way u can drop me a message? how about a superuser.com account?
[10:42] <maxwellian> prince_jammys: I'm actually laughing right now.
[10:42] <eoke> Taev: www.google.co.uk
[10:42] <Taev> no it didn't crash
[10:43] <maxwellian> prince_jammys: Anyway, he can't actually be using 8.10, because he said Update Manager got him 3.6.6 didn't he?
[10:43] <Sagaci> Flash issue
[10:43] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, no worries im mostly afk but if you pm me I'll respond
[10:43] <bleah> eoke , http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/459065/
[10:43] <Taev> i tried  sudo apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-plugin-gnash like that one page suggested
[10:43] <Taev> nothing
[10:43] <eoke> Taev: Can you disable the shockwave flash plugin and try the sites that were causing you to crash before.
[10:43] <Taev> hell i just installed adobe flash 10
[10:44] <codebrainz> bleah, what is the output of 'ls -s /dev/video*'
[10:44] <Taev> still crashes with adobe flash 10 installed
[10:44] <Pirate_Hunter> Sagaci, nope user issue and they dont want a different browser I would suggest epiphany-browser since it is close to firefox
[10:44] <eoke> Taev: It may be problematic with your older version of Ubuntu.
[10:44] <Taev> ok ill try that eoke
[10:44] <jan> hi guys, I need to write gnome applet which gets a value from html page from server and show it on gnome panel. I've found some examples and tutorials, but I'm still confused from it. Can someone help, please? :)
[10:44] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: okie then. i will leave in 20 mins time. really appreciate your help. bye bye if i dont see u later
[10:44] <Taev> how do I disable flash?
[10:44] <Taev> I never had to do it before
[10:44] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, if you really need to use ftp urgently i would suggest for now another client otherwise just come back later who knows someone might actually know how to fix that
[10:44] <bleah> eoke , http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/459067/
[10:45] <maxwellian> Taev: Can you please run 'lsb_release -a' and make sure you're running 8.10?
[10:45] <codebrainz> jan, easiest is to probably use python.. it has gnome bindings to all of this and excellent remote file stuff built-in
[10:45] <maxwellian> Taev: I don't understand how you ended up with 3.6.6 if that's the case.
[10:45] <Taev> im not running 8.10
[10:45] <Taev> Im running 8.04 Hardy
[10:45] <codebrainz> bleah, what program are you testing in?
[10:45] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: i realised that it is actually there.  but just not visible.  i need to press ALt + E
[10:46] <bleah> cheese
[10:46] <Taev> so how do i disable flash on firefox?
[10:46] <stimpie> how do I manage which services are started on boot?
[10:46] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: this is super weird
[10:46] <jan> codebrainz: thanks, I'll take a look on it.
[10:46] <bleah> output of lspci http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/459068/
[10:47] <Taev> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-noscript/+bug/231769  that page has my problem dead to rights, but they closed it
[10:47] <eoke> Taev: Did you mean to say "without"?
[10:47] <Taev> saying they didn't post the required info
[10:47] <prince_jammys> Taev: ignore that URL, it was a mistake.
[10:47] <eoke> Taev: Sorry ignore that just read an old post my bad
[10:47] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, eeerh at least you realised it probably a feature of the application
[10:47] <Taev> no it wasn't
[10:47] <codebrainz> bleah, eoke  so there is a video0 device ...
[10:47] <Taev> its my exact problem
[10:47] <Taev> 8.04, crashes on cnn.com
[10:47] <Taev> seg fault
[10:47] <Taev> its my exact problem
[10:47] <maxwellian> Taev: We can all read.
[10:47] <maxwellian> Taev: That is referring to an extension that you don't have.
[10:47] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: but it is still not visible. blearh... i am sick of this
[10:48] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, since I dont use ftp clients I wouldn't have known at leats now I know and you can go help that other person in ubuntu forums
[10:48] <prince_jammys> Taev: does the bug report say 'segfault'?
[10:48] <Taev> how do you know I don't have it?
[10:48] <Sagaci> Trying switching browsers
[10:48] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: all i can say is that i have to live with using Alt keys
[10:48] <maxwellian> Taev: Because you reinstalled, supposedly.  You woudln't have it by default.
[10:48] <codebrainz> bleah, i can only recommend using xawtv package to see if it works
[10:49] <Taev> ah
[10:49] <Taev> ok
[10:49] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, try reading the man pages might give you a clue and are you sing the default theme(s) or a metacity/ruby/cmpiz version try taking those off
[10:49] <maxwellian> Taev: But frankly I wouldn't at all be surprised if you do have it, and several other extensions, and neglected to mention it.
[10:49] <Taev> so how do I disable flash on firefox
[10:49] <eoke> Taev: Tools > Addons > Plugins
[10:49] <Sagaci> Taev: install wine and run IE6 through it. It may be better than your current situation
[10:49] <bleah> the webcam working , but the imge is upside down ... can xawtv help me to fix this problem ??
[10:49] <codebrainz> Taev, sudo apt-get install windows-xp-sp3
[10:49] <codebrainz> hahahaha
[10:50] <prince_jammys> Sagaci: come on.
[10:50] <codebrainz> bleah, worth a shot
[10:50] <Sagaci> Lol!
[10:50] <codebrainz> bleah, what eoke said should fix it though
[10:50] <Sagaci> stem
[10:50] <bleah> ok , i try
[10:51] <VilasBoas> hi i'm having problems with my lamp ubuntu 10.4 and Vhost
[10:51] <VilasBoas> i instaled drupal on /var/www/drupal-17/ but the vhost send it to /var/www/
[10:51] <VilasBoas> i already have DocumentRoot /var/www/drupal-6.17/ on the vosts but it seems to not be working
[10:51]  * Pirate_Hunter wonders if #ubuntu became a paid service how much he would get?
[10:51] <Taev> ok the list of plugs in i have is: Divx, GCJ web browser, gxine starter plugin, itunes app detector, quicktime, shockwave flash, totem web browser, vlc multimedia, windows media player plugin
[10:51] <codebrainz> Pirate_Hunter, 3.50
[10:51] <Sagaci> sudo apt-get install antivirusproXP2011-goldedition
[10:51] <maxwellian> Are those default plugins?
[10:51] <prince_jammys> VilasBoas: i recommend a more specific channel, like #drupal, or #httpd for apache.
[10:52] <Pirate_Hunter> codebrainz, hmmm I think definitely more than that
[10:52] <Taev> ok, disabling flash worked
[10:52] <Taev> its not crashing
[10:52] <Zeu5> Pirate_Hunter: i did use compiz to have that very cool 3d cube effect thing. but i dont think i change the default theme in anwya
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> and people wonder why we 'LOVE' flash so much...
[10:52] <VilasBoas> prince_jammys ok
[10:52] <Taev> i seem to have 2 shockwave flash plugins
[10:52] <Taev> is that normal?
[10:52] <codebrainz> Pirate_Hunter, 4.50?  that's as high as i can go
[10:52] <Sagaci> Like having two heads
[10:53] <xiaogui> hi guys, does anyone know how to delete "Places" option in the menu bar of Ubuntu10.0.4,  leaving only "Applications " and "System" on the panel?
[10:53] <maxwellian> Taev: What are their names?
[10:53] <Pirate_Hunter> Zeu5, try disabling compiz or any composite effect just for testing purposes
[10:53] <Taev> shockwave flash 9.0 r277, and shockwave flash movie player verison 0.4.12
[10:53] <Taev> i disabled them both
[10:53] <MikeChelen> xiaogui: right click and "edit menus"
[10:53] <Taev> im going to re-enable one
[10:53] <Pirate_Hunter> codebrainz, than I will refuse to give support on certain issues and only work half day on weekend you wont get any better than
[10:53] <Taev> ok when i re-enabled the shockwave flash movie player, it crashed
[10:53] <michal|3s> Pirate_Hunter: is it possible to just install on usb stick kernel + initrd + syslinux from ubuntu installer, and fetch all the rest from the network?
[10:53] <eoke> Taev: I'm not sure if it's a problem but I've only got the one entry myself.
[10:54] <maxwellian> Taev: Try switching to the other one.
[10:54] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev,  there is your problem keep flash off
[10:54] <Taev> ok it works fine as long as I don't have Shockwave Flash Movie Player enabled
[10:54] <Taev> so thats your solution, not use flash?
[10:54] <Taev> i guess thats not a bug, its a random programing feature
[10:55] <codebrainz> michal|3s, look for the hdd-image (i know debian has it)
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  write a dirty letter to adobe. Its a bug in flash i would say
[10:55] <maxwellian> Taev: You disabled one, and you're using the other one?
[10:55] <Pirate_Hunter> michal|3s, dont think why not considering ubuntu supports network install however you may want to look into that as long as you can point it to the usb it shouldn't be a problem
[10:55] <codebrainz> michal|3s, then you just zcat it to the usb disk
[10:55] <Taev> shockwave flash 9.0 r277 enabled works and shockwave flash movie player verison 0.4.12 enabled crashes firefox
[10:55] <michal|3s> that would be idea (hdd-image)
[10:55] <Pirate_Hunter> michal|3s, by the way did you try plop did it work as it stated on the site at least did it detect the usb?
[10:55] <Taev> I didn't have this problem until I updated to 3.6.6.
[10:55] <maxwellian> Taev: Can you go to flash sites with the one you have?
[10:55] <Taev> give me a flash site
[10:55] <Taev> as a control
[10:55] <michal|3s> Pirate_Hunter: i get the same errors still
[10:55] <eoke> Taev: How did you install flash in the first place?
[10:56] <maxwellian> Taev: youtube.com
[10:56] <michal|3s> it 's not bootloader releated
[10:56] <Sagaci> Taev: live and learn
[10:56] <eoke> Taev: www.youtube.com
[10:56] <Taev> i had it installed since i installed the system
[10:56] <michal|3s> it fails much later
[10:56] <Taev> via synaptic
[10:56] <Pirate_Hunter> michal|3s, which error where you getting
[10:56] <Taev> as I said. the problem didn't start until i updated to 3.6.6.
[10:56] <eoke> Taev: Can you remember exactly which package you installed?
[10:56] <Taev> youtube.com works
[10:56] <Pirate_Hunter> Sgaci what was the problem?
[10:56] <Taev> flash-nonfree, something like that
[10:56] <maxwellian> Taev: Okay, so we learned a lot here.  First of all, there was not a problem with Firefox.
[10:57] <maxwellian> Taev: Isn't that amazing.
[10:57] <Taev> Oh so every thing working fine until I installed 3.6.6. doesn't matter at all
[10:57] <Pirate_Hunter> michal|3s, what is the error you're getting
[10:57] <eoke> Taev: That sounds about right I'm just not sure what the movie player plugin you had is or where it came from.
[10:57] <michal|3s> Pirate_Hunter: one second...
[10:57] <Taev> its got to be the flash plugin i installed 2 years ago
[10:57] <maxwellian> Taev: Yes, you have a two year old flash plugin.
[10:57] <Taev> never mind the fact that all this started when I updated to 3.6.6.
[10:58] <maxwellian> Taev: And a new flash plugin which probably came with 3.6.6.
[10:58] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev,  but you managed to not tell that to anyone
[10:58] <Taev> no one asked
[10:58] <Taev> if I knew it was a flash problem, i wouldn't have had to come here
[10:58] <Taev> would I?
[10:58] <maxwellian> Taev: No, you KNEW it was a Firefox problem.
[10:58] <Taev> it is a problem with firefox
[10:58] <Taev> Opera is working fine
[10:58] <prince_jammys> Taev: you should simply describe the problem.
[10:59] <codebrainz> Taev, wtf?  it shouldn't be this hard.  sudo rm -rf /home/you/.mozilla/plugins/* /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/* && apt-get --reinstall --purge install firefox flashplugin-nonfree
[10:59] <prince_jammys> Taev: you wasted much time because you were convinced that downgrading firefox was the solution
[10:59] <Taev> All the other browsers were working, I had made no changes to the system except updating to firefox 3.6.6, Occam's razor.
[10:59] <maxwellian> codebrainz: He's got it working.
[10:59] <tsooi> I fixed all my flash problems today ^^
[10:59] <Pirate_Hunter> codebrainz, relax problem solved end of it
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> tsooi:  purged flash eh? :)
[10:59] <Taev> and it would have worked
[11:00] <codebrainz> sorry, just read too much wasted time
[11:00] <Taev> since the last version of firefox worked
[11:00] <prince_jammys> Taev: Occam's razor my foot.
[11:00] <tsooi> Flash is finally working, in firefox and opera 10.60
[11:00]  * Dr_Willis shaves with occams razor
[11:00] <prince_jammys> waste 'o time because you think you know solutions when you don't
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  i thought i saw a new flash in the updates also.
[11:00] <Taev> yeah the fact that the problem started when i installed firefox 3.6.6, that wouldn't lead anyone to believe it was the new firefox
[11:01] <Pirate_Hunter> codebrainz, and apparently you would pay 4.50 an hour for support hmmm I dont think it is worth it unless I get my demands
[11:01] <prince_jammys> Taev: now that you have firefox working, you can visit that nice link i left for you.
[11:01] <Taev> none of you knew the solution either.
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> i saw about 20 updates yesterday including firefox and flash
[11:01] <Taev> except whoever found that site
[11:01] <tsooi> I used a script on ubuntu forums, I think the script installed the 32bit adobe flash player, and removed some other stuff automatically
[11:01] <Taev> with the problem detailed on it
[11:01] <gryllida> Taev: I wasn't watching, sorry, how did you solve the issue? or didn't you? what did you try?
[11:01] <codebrainz> Pirate_Hunter, full dental, medical, 3 weeks vacation
[11:01] <maxwellian> Taev: That site was a coincidence.
[11:01] <eoke> Taev: Did you say you were on Ubuntu 8.10
[11:01] <Dalton> bonjour quelqu'un peut-il me dire comment joindre le reseaux de ubuntu en fr
[11:01] <prince_jammys> Taev:  solution to what? wasting too much time answering "how to downgrade firefox?" You didn't even give the reasons for this until _I_ extracted them from you.
[11:01] <Taev> that link you posted, those people had the same problem I had, they upgraded to 3.6.6. on Ubuntu 8.04
[11:02] <Taev> and sites with flash crashed firefox
[11:02] <gryllida> !fr | Dalton
[11:02] <Taev> so I disabled flash
[11:02] <prince_jammys> meh.
[11:02] <prince_jammys> lemme test this irc command here.
[11:02] <Taev> oh christ you asked me the same questions how many times
[11:02] <tsooi> I also use a flash blocker to not load all flash files, so I open flash files selectively.
[11:02] <codebrainz> Dalton, essayer #ubuntu-qc
[11:02] <oCean_> Taev: watch your language in this channel
[11:02] <gryllida> Taev: https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/The+Adobe+Flash+plugin+has+crashed
[11:02] <Pirate_Hunter> codebrainz, hmmm I lift one eyebrow that 3 week vacation does seem interesting but....
[11:02] <Taev> did I run firefox in the terminal, yes, did i run it in safe mode yes, what did it say, seg fault, do this purge, do this install -reinstall --purge
[11:02] <Taev> I did everything you asked, and answered every question
[11:03] <Taev> gryllida, solved it
[11:03] <codebrainz> Pirate_Hunter, we have a good coffee maker!?
[11:03] <gryllida> Taev: how?
[11:03]  * Dr_Willis fell asleep
[11:03] <Taev> that link
[11:03] <gryllida> what link?
[11:03] <Taev> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-noscript/+bug/231769
[11:03] <gryllida> ok
[11:03] <prince_jammys> Taev: i never asked you the same question twice. i never suggested any of those things. i began to ask for symptoms, but you quickly reverted to "how do i downgrade firefox to a version that doesn't suck?"
[11:03] <Pirate_Hunter> codebrainz, you won me over :D but im joining the union just encase
[11:03] <maxwellian> gryllida: Please note that the bug is filed under NoScript.
[11:03] <gryllida> prince_jammys, Taev, issue solved, relax :)
[11:04] <Taev> i gave you the symptoms, firefox would crash saying segfault
[11:04] <prince_jammys> fooll
[11:04] <Taev> I can't give you any other symptoms if there aren't any
[11:04] <codebrainz> Pirate_Hunter, no dice, otherwise I'll outsource your ass in a hurry
[11:04] <oCean_> codebrainz: please stay on topic
[11:04] <eoke> Let's go back to loving one another, it's not worth arguing folks.
[11:04] <codebrainz> oCean_, yes mother
[11:04] <Taev> you had zero impact on solving this issue
[11:04] <Pirate_Hunter> people relax problem has been solved at least we learned an important lesson which has a good moral, I just can't think of it right now but it is there
[11:05] <Taev> it was gryllida, Pirate_Hunter, Dr_Willis and sorry if I forgot anyone
[11:05] <prince_jammys> the questioner didn't learn jack.
[11:05] <Pirate_Hunter> codebrainz, no union :( I will have to think about it
[11:05] <Taev> that I should have magically known that by firefox crashing and saying segfault that there is a bug with 3.6.6. + flash + ubuntu 8.04 ?
[11:06] <spiky_> Pirate_Hunter>keptme ammused
[11:06] <Taev> thats a bit of a stretch.
[11:06] <Pirate_Hunter> codebrainz, nah not worth it without the union and they are picky about their coffee
[11:06]  * Dr_Willis totally missed the 8.04 part
[11:06] <codebrainz> Pirate_Hunter, I've been censored ... /muted
[11:06] <oCean_> Pirate_Hunter: drop it, stay on topic
[11:06] <Taev> Bug 231769 to be exact.
[11:06] <maxwellian> Taev: That is NOT your bug.
[11:06] <gryllida> codebrainz: ?
[11:06] <Pirate_Hunter> spiky_, if your talking about the recent problem and not me being able to get away with an offtopic conversation than yeah it kept everyone amused
[11:07] <maxwellian> Taev: If nothing else, please do not go away thinking that is your bug.
[11:07] <michal|3s> Pirate_Hunter: interesting. i've put installer on the usb. it boots, says 'gfxmode unknown keyword' and the screen goes black
[11:07] <michal|3s> Pirate_Hunter: i can pres esc, and if i'm fast enough i can get the boot menu
[11:07] <Taev> so... ignoring the fact that those people had the same exact problem, with the same exact version of firefox, with the same exact version of ubuntu, and the same solution worked for me
[11:07] <Taev> Right I can see how that could mislead some one
[11:07] <michal|3s> Pirate_Hunter: than i have a choice. well, let's try 'live-install'
[11:07] <codebrainz> gryllida, this is the Canonical's support channel, yada yada
[11:08] <Pirate_Hunter> michal|3s, hmmm is that when using plop, f so you might want to search online or check if they got a forum and ask their
[11:08] <maxwellian> Taev: That bug was for NoScript, and extension which you don't have.
[11:08] <Taev> perhaps the bug is more inclusive that just having Noscript
[11:08] <xiaogui> Mikechelen: i still couldn't delete "Places". The main menu only has "Applications " and "System" options, since i can't even find the "Places" option, i failed to delete it. Sorry , i'm a newbie here...
[11:08] <michal|3s> Pirate_Hunter: nah, that's what i get using normal syslinux
[11:08] <maxwellian> Taev: Absolutely, that could be.  But you have no idea if that's the case.
[11:08] <maxwellian> Taev: It's those kinds of leaps in reasoning that have caused you so much trouble.
[11:08] <Taev> no what caused me the trouble was when adept updated to the new firefox
[11:09] <maxwellian> Taev: The fact is that you were trying to run a two-year-old version of Flash alongside a brand new one.
[11:09] <michal|3s> Pirate_Hunter: squashfs_error, etc
[11:09] <Taev> Im sure adept updated it
[11:09] <maxwellian> Taev: Yes, that's right.
[11:09] <Taev> and I did install the newest version of adobe flash 10 like that readme suggested
[11:10] <maxwellian> Taev: There's nothing wrong with having a new version of Flash.  There MAY be a problem with trying to simultaneously run a two-year-old version.
[11:10] <maxwellian> Taev: Does that part at least make sense?
[11:10] <Pirate_Hunter> michal|3s, weird I thought with plop if you're using it you wouldn't have needed syslinux etc to boot the usb it would've just picked up the iso file, hmmm tell me how it goes if you manage right a tutorial for me to follow, I'll bookmark it until I can get my hand on an old machine
[11:10] <Taev> I said I installed Flash 2 years ago. You know damn well adept package manager installs updates for your installed packages when they come out
[11:10] <gryllida> Taev, what did you do to solve the issue? Clean reinstall or something else?
[11:10] <Pirate_Hunter> michal|3s,  right > write
[11:10] <Taev> i disabled shockwave flash movie player
[11:11] <michal|3s> Pirate_Hunter: plop can pick iso?
[11:11] <codebrainz> michal|3s, have you checked your ISO?
[11:11] <michal|3s> nice
[11:11] <maxwellian> gryllida: He had two Flash plugins.
[11:11] <michal|3s> codebrainz: that's what i'm doing now
[11:11] <maxwellian> gryllida: He disabled the much older one.
[11:11] <Pirate_Hunter> michal|3s, it stated on the site it makes the usb pickup as a hd so I would've thought so
[11:11] <codebrainz> michal|3s, good choice, sounds fishy
[11:11] <maxwellian> Taev: I'm not blaming you for the way your machine was set up, you're right that it's supposed to keep itself updated.
[11:11] <gryllida> Taev: maxwellian: try to understand why it wasn't auto removed while installing the newer one, and don't worry about the other stuff.
[11:11] <Taev> No I had "shockwave flash 9.0 r277  and shockwave flash movie player verison 0.4.12 "
[11:12] <gryllida> Taev, now, try to understand why the older one wasn't removed when installing 9.0 version.
[11:12] <Pirate_Hunter> michal|3s, if it is fooling the machine to pick up the usb as a hd shouldn't it react like one? but than I ahvent tested it myself,
[11:12] <Crucible> Looking for help on an issue, had a 10.4 desktop running and encrypted two sata drives with the integrated disk manager, the HD running the desktop gave out and now I'm trying to figure out how to mount the 2 drives in my ubuntu server 10.4. Any help is greatly appreciated!
[11:12] <maxwellian> gryllida: How was he able to get 3.6.6 in the first place?
[11:12] <gryllida> IDK, never seen such phenomenon, though have taken 200+ support requests.
[11:12] <Taev> Adept
[11:12] <Taev> I regularly update my system.
[11:13] <gryllida> maxwellian: from the repo? spt-get update firefox
[11:13] <gryllida> 3.6.6 is in there already
[11:13] <michal|3s> E:\>openssl md5 ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[11:13] <michal|3s> MD5(ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso)= 3e0f72becd63cad79bf784ac2b34b448
[11:13] <maxwellian> gryllida: He's running 8.04.
[11:13] <codebrainz> Taev, which ubuntu version again?
[11:13] <michal|3s> 3e0f72becd63cad79bf784ac2b34b448
[11:13] <michal|3s> ubuntu-10.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[11:13] <michal|3s> (from the site)
[11:13] <gryllida> maxwellian: whihc is same repo, isn't it?
[11:13] <michal|3s> seems to be ok :)
[11:13] <FloodBot1> michal|3s: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:13] <eoke> Crucible: What do you mean by integrated disk manager?
[11:13] <DJ_BqlGazaRrR> hello friends
[11:13] <prince_jammys> maxwellian: maybe by screwing with sources.list
[11:14] <Pirate_Hunter> maxehow can they be running 8.04 are you saying backports is enabled?
[11:14] <DJ_BqlGazaRrR> can anyone help me
[11:14] <michal|3s> codebrainz: so my iso looks ok
[11:14] <gryllida> hi DJ_BqlGazaRrR
[11:14] <gryllida> DJ_BqlGazaRrR, help with what?
[11:14] <Crucible> the disk manager that comes bundled with the ubuntu desktop
[11:14] <gryllida> !md5 > michal|3s
[11:14] <DJ_BqlGazaRrR> i want to remove graphic manager from my ubuntu 10.04
[11:14] <codebrainz> michal|3s, did you do a md5sum -c on it?
[11:14] <Taev> so how do I fix the issue with Shockwave Flash Movie player?
[11:14] <maxwellian> Pirate_Hunter: I'm not saying anything of the sort.
[11:14] <DJ_BqlGazaRrR> i want only console mod for my web server, How to?
[11:14] <maxwellian> Taev: You can watch flash, right?
[11:14] <Taev> or do I just not use it until they come out with a new version of firefox
[11:14] <michal|3s> codebrainz: openssl md5 (it is windows ;)
[11:14] <gryllida> Taev: just remove the older one, its path should be seen at about:plugins
[11:14] <maxwellian> Taev: Did you watch a Youtube video?
[11:14] <DJ_BqlGazaRrR> apt-get --purge remove gdm?
[11:15] <joshmuffin> sdoin
[11:15] <codebrainz> DJ_BqlGazaRrR, easiest is to use the server or alternate CD to install a cli only version
[11:15] <Taev> they are 2 separate plugins gryllida
[11:15] <codebrainz> michal|3s, i have no idea about windows
[11:15] <michal|3s> codebrainz: well, openssl works great here
[11:15] <gryllida> Taev: get rid of the older one, find its path at about:plugins
[11:15] <Taev> "hockwave flash 9.0 r277  and shockwave flash movie player verison 0.4.12 "
[11:15] <maxwellian> gryllida: He's already disabled it, why take it any further?
[11:15] <gryllida> Taev: "about:plugins" is an URL
[11:15] <Taev> There is no "older" one, they are 2 separate plugins
[11:15] <codebrainz> michal|3s, if you have a *real* shell, it shouldn't matter
[11:15] <michal|3s> codebrainz: i think i will md5 check the squashfs on the pendrive vs the one from iso
[11:16] <gryllida> maxwellian: he's having it disabled, obviously wants to uninstall, as I see from the lines I am getting.
[11:16] <maxwellian> Taev: Before you do anything, can you watch a Youtube video?
[11:16] <codebrainz> michal|3s, md5sum -c will verify the iso you downloaded isn't corrupt compared to the file on the server
[11:16] <gryllida> Taev: maxwellian means, could you test that your flash is working ok now?
[11:16] <codebrainz> michal|3s, the .iso contains the squashfs root filesystem
[11:16] <DJ_BqlGazaRrR> hm if i reinstal my ubuntu i will lost my works
[11:16] <michal|3s> codebrainz: yes, and the md5 says my iso is ok
[11:17] <Crucible> eoke, the disk manager that comes bundled with the ubuntu desktop
[11:17] <michal|3s> codebrainz: but than during boot i get info about squashfs corrupted
[11:17] <Taev> No.
[11:17] <Taev> the video just stays black
[11:17] <codebrainz> michal|3s, might be worth doing a   'badblocks /dev/YourBootDisk'
[11:17] <maxwellian> Taev: Okay, so the only thing that's better now is that it's not crashing?
[11:18] <Taev> it says you need to update adobe
[11:18] <Taev> i already did
[11:18] <Ek|mu5> Hello all, quick question: What's better (all things considered) to parse files of uniform format in C++, using the byte stream via pointer arithmetic or regular expressions?
[11:18] <Pirate_Hunter> michal|3s, im going away for a bit be back in 30min or so
[11:18] <Taev> i have adobe flash 10
[11:18] <Pirate_Hunter> Taev, at least you solved one problem
[11:19] <dreamer> ello
[11:19] <eoke> Crucible: You can try to mount it with "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdxy /dev/mapper/enctemp" then "mkdir ~/enctemp" then "mount /dev/mapper/enctemp ~/enctemp"
[11:19] <michal|3s> codebrainz: ha! squashfs on the pendrive and iso is different!
[11:19] <codebrainz> Ek|mu5, it's SO off topic, but best is a lib that can parse your type of files :)
[11:19] <eoke> Crucible: Remember to change /dev/sdxy as appropriate to the disk that's encrypted.
[11:19] <maxwellian> Taev: From the plugins you listed earlier, you have Flash 9.0
[11:19] <ubuntufreak> I would like to install Ubuntu 10.04 freshly in a 500GB hard drive, how should i go with the partition since i indent to use few vm's inside Ubuntu ?
[11:20] <Machina> wondering on how can I see my real ip if i'm using a public wireless network without using a web site like "myrealip" ? P.S:ifconfig won't show it to me...
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> ubuntufreak:  this is only a ubuntu system? on a single 500gb hd?
[11:20] <codebrainz> michal|3s, michal|3s are you just tring to install from a pendrive?
[11:20] <student> 安靜啦！
[11:20] <kevin_> Machina : ifconfig in terminal
[11:20] <dreamer> How to install aircrack-ng on ubuntu
[11:20] <student><PHONE_NUMBER>465465165164
[11:20] <student> 546+54564r65y4r465ry r
[11:20] <student> yr
[11:20] <student> t yr
[11:20] <FloodBot1> student: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:20] <student> y
[11:20] <student> rty
[11:20] <student> rty
[11:20] <maxwellian> kevin_: They just said that didn't work.
[11:20] <codebrainz> student, i understand completely
[11:20] <joshmuffin> sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng, dreamer
[11:21] <kevin_> ah :D
[11:21] <joshmuffin> !enter | student
[11:21] <kevin_> how not ?:P
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> dreamer:  use the pacakge manager search for aircrack. and install it.
[11:21] <eoke> Machina: You don't think you'll be able to unless you use a third party site or have access to the routers nat table.
[11:21] <Machina> kevin_, I did but it doesn't give me my real ip.
[11:21] <kevin_> Your external IP or internal ?
[11:21] <codebrainz> joshmuffin, do the chinese one
[11:21] <Machina> eoke, thank's m8
[11:21] <maxwellian> kevin_: She's behind NAT.
[11:21] <MikeChelen> xiaogui: hmm yeah, that seems to work only for applications and system menus
[11:21] <maxwellian> Taev: Still with me?
[11:21] <joshmuffin> codebrainz,
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> !info apt-cache
[11:21] <joshmuffin> codebrainz, what chineese what
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> !info aircrack-ng
[11:21] <ubuntufreak> Dr_Willis: Yes its only a Ubuntu system
[11:21] <dreamer> thanks joshmuffin
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> ubuntufreak:  normaly way i do it. 4 primary partuituions -->  (/boot) (/) (/home) and (swap)
[11:22] <codebrainz> joshmuffin, whatever the ubottu thing for the alt/lang channels :)
[11:22] <alex88> hi guys, i've read the licensing page. But i cannot be sure of this. Is ubuntu usable for commercial use? I mean in a company.
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> ubuntufreak:  a /boot is handy and /home partition is VERY VERY handy
[11:22] <Ek|mu5> codebrainz, Sorry 'bout the OT, mind if I PM you?
[11:22] <joshmuffin> !women | codebrainz
[11:22] <joshmuffin> lol
[11:22] <joshmuffin> women
[11:22] <neurochrome> hey folks, is there a way to popup an alert to another machine running x via ssh?
[11:22] <Taev> the plugin thats malfunctioning is not adobe, its gplflash.sf.net
[11:23] <MikeChelen> xiaogui: try removing the main menu applet, and add menu bar applet instead - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=333999
[11:23] <codebrainz> joshmuffin, not what I meant :)
[11:23] <maxwellian> Taev: gplflash.sh.net, what is that?
[11:23] <joshmuffin> !chinese
[11:23] <joshmuffin> ?
[11:23] <ohir> alex88: yes you can use
[11:23] <maxwellian> Taev: That's where you got the other plugin?
[11:23] <codebrainz> Ek|mu5, you could probably ask here, lots of experts
[11:23] <ubuntufreak> Dr_Willis: So how should i go with the sizes for each partition and is it in the same order as you have mentioned ?
[11:23] <alex88> ohir: thank you, and use all repositories?
[11:23] <oCean_> joshmuffin: don't abuse the bot
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> neurochrome:  there might be some ways. but that would be a bit of a security issue. so a lot of times the ways to do it are locked down.
[11:23] <codebrainz> joshmuffin, yes, that's it :)
[11:23] <Taev> i downloaded the newest version but when i ./configure i get error can not find X11 development files
[11:23] <freedom> hi for every body may some help
[11:23] <joshmuffin> codebrainz, why couldnt you do it yourself?
[11:23] <ohir> alex88: yes.
[11:23] <freedom> plz
[11:23] <neurochrome> Dr_Willis, I mean a machine that you are already logged into via ssh
[11:23] <alex88> ohir: thank you :)
[11:23] <joshmuffin> !botabuse | joshmuffin
[11:24] <codebrainz> joshmuffin, robots don't get along so well
[11:24] <joshmuffin> ya idiot
[11:24] <freedom> how to upgrade my wireless driver
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> ubuntufreak:  depends on your needs - I use like 20-30gb for /  512min for swap.  2gb for /boot (because i keep iso files there and have grub boot them as a rescue option) and rest for /home
[11:24] <michal|3s> codebrainz: wow. copied (by hand) squashfs onthe pendrive and it started
[11:24] <freedom> i have iwl3945
[11:24] <oCean_> freedom: just describe your issue in the channel (detailed, try to keep in one single line)
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> ubuntufreak:  you may not evne want a /boot/
[11:24] <maxwellian> Taev: Can you explain the gplflash thing first?
[11:24] <neurochrome> Dr_Willis, I want to popup a message for my gf ;)
[11:24] <maxwellian> Taev: Is that a website you went to?
[11:24] <alex88> Dr_Willis: so you can boot a live cd from grub?
[11:24] <codebrainz> michal|3s, good stuff...
[11:24] <Taev> no
[11:24] <freedom> aaaa how?
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> neurochrome:  theres some samba tool that can do that. but i cant recall its name. its not installed by default.
[11:24] <freedom> i'm anew in ubuntu
[11:24] <Taev> I install everything from synaptic
[11:24] <Ek|mu5> codebrainz, yeah, doing a little port from native C to C++/CLI. Parsing algo already exists in the byte stream pointer arithmetic method. Was wondering if changing to regex is better performance and readability wise
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> neurochrome:  use 'beep' and make the pc beep out morse code.
[11:25] <vishnu> hi,i have installed ubuntu inside windows and have all my files and folders here... now, i want to install UBUNTU fully... but i want my files and folders in virtual to shift to the real one.. how can i do that.. plz help..
[11:25] <codebrainz> Ek|mu5, ok, pm me
[11:25] <ubuntufreak> Dr_Willis: Whats the advantage of having a separate /boot ?
[11:25] <ohir> alex88: you can use it as long as you do not try to hide source code of something that tou lifted from linux (or other GPL licensed apps)
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> neurochrome:  or record your voice and send it to her speakers
[11:25] <joshmuffin> !women | shouldnt-they-be-in-the-kitchen
[11:25] <freedom> i'm new in ubuntu can you tell more how where to go
[11:25] <neurochrome> Dr_Willis, lol, if she knew morse that'd be ideal!
[11:25] <maxwellian> Taev: Okay, so why did you mention that url?
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> ubuntufreak:  i keep iso files there for a rescue boot. and grub wont  vanish if i delete the ubuntu partitions
[11:25] <alex88> ohir: np, i'll use it only for internet navigation and to run virtualized application on the server
[11:25] <oCean_> Ek|mu5: maybe you should find a more appropriate channel for asking programming questions
[11:25] <maxwellian> Taev: Is that the name of the bad version in Synaptic?
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> ubuntufreak:  i set up a grub entry to boot the ubuntu.iso friom grub as a 'emergancy rescue mode' :)
[11:26] <ohir> alex88: in which case and at this very moment you lose your licensee rights
[11:26] <freedom> ??????????
[11:26] <Taev> because the plug in thats causing firefox to crash's homepage is gplflash.sf.net
[11:26] <Taev> its a SWF player
[11:26] <alex88> ohir: what you mean?
[11:26] <ohir> alex88: its perfect valid use
[11:26] <freedom> o.k. thanx
[11:26] <Taev> they ahve something to do with gnash
[11:26] <Taev> and i have gnash installed
[11:26] <ubuntufreak> Dr_Willis: That is in case if your Ubuntu system breaks right ?
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  you dont want gnash and flash both installed normally
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> ubuntufreak:  yep. or i want to test out some live cd's
[11:26] <neurochrome> Dr_Willis, is there a way to remotely make use of the notifications system?
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> neurochrome:  not that ive noticed. there might be. but ive never tried it
[11:27] <superikaro> hi, im having a problem with my laptop, its heat a lot, more than when i use windows vista, i guess, coolers are not working. thanks
[11:27] <Ek|mu5> oCean_, clue-by-for me please
[11:27] <neurochrome> Dr_Willis, k
[11:27] <alex88> ohir: oh good.. i just have to find a software that permit to run office on the server and put the window of it on remote pc
[11:27] <kleopatra> hi, how could i encrypt my harddrive most easy way?
[11:27] <student> kjiij
[11:27] <ohir> alex88: you are free to use GPL software, you are free to improve it or write your apps basing on other GPL source. You just can not hide source.
[11:27] <Ek|mu5> oCean_, clue-by-four me please
[11:27] <vishnu> hi,i have installed ubuntu inside windows and have all my files and folders here... now, i want to install UBUNTU fully... but i want my files and folders in virtual to shift to the real one.. how can i do that.. plz help..
[11:27] <joshmuffin> !womensrights
[11:27] <Taev> ok im removing gnash
[11:27] <EricFisher> Hello, does irc.ubunbu.com and irc.freenode.com refer to same one? I created the channel on irc.ubuntu.com. I'm not sure if it is refer to freenode. But I can join the channel on webcat.freenode.net. But on ubuntu machine, I must use the server irc.ubuntu.com instead of irc.freenode.com. I'm confused by these.
[11:27] <ohir> alex88: so ubuntu is good choice. It comes with anything SOHO might need
 Sorry, I don't know anything about womensrights
[11:27] <maxwellian> Taev: Do you remember installing gnash in the first place?
[11:27] <oCean_> joshmuffin: stop abusing the bot
[11:28] <student> edkkdjgkdfg
[11:28] <joshmuffin> make me
[11:28] <vishnu> plz somebody offer a solution
[11:28] <student> 疵
[11:28] <joshmuffin> !botabuse | joshmuffin
[11:28] <oCean_> student: do you have a technical question for the ubuntu channel?
[11:28] <alex88> ohir: right, and i'm friendly with ubuntu server so i can easly remote control those pc for assistance
[11:28] <student> 這是啥@@？
[11:28] <alex88> and configure the server with ubuntu server
[11:28] <ohir> alex88: yes.
[11:28] <Taev> yeah i installed it as part of 1 of the solutions on that bug page
[11:28] <ubuntufreak> Dr_Willis: That sounds cool too, may be i could go with 4gb-/boot, 40gb-/, 8gb-swap, remaining-/home will that be good ?
[11:28] <joshmuffin> !chinese | student
[11:28] <Taev> i just removed it, apparently it doesn't have anything to do with the SWF Player plugin i have installed
[11:28] <Taev> that gplflash
[11:29] <maxwellian> Taev: Okay, that's good to know.
[11:29] <vishnu> Dr_Willis, hi,i have installed ubuntu inside windows and have all my files and folders here... now, i want to install UBUNTU fully... but i want my files and folders in virtual to shift to the real one.. how can i do that.. plz help..
[11:29] <superikaro> hi, im having a problem with my laptop, its heat a lot, more than when i use windows vista, i guess, coolers are not working. thanks
[11:29] <maxwellian> Taev: Do you remember when you got that gplflash thing?
[11:29] <Taev> and i cant install the newest version of gplflash because it gives me an error when i ./configure it
[11:29] <Taev> can't find X11 development files
[11:29] <Taev> No.
[11:29] <Taev> but i installed it through synaptic
[11:29] <alex88> ohir: thank you for your help..gtg now.. have a nice time :)
[11:29] <maxwellian> Taev: The whole ./configure business is for installing from source.
[11:29] <PiKeyPL> superikaro:  Try to read about laptop-mode. It could help. What's Your laptop model?
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> vishnu:  ive seen guides on converting a wubi install to a normal install.. but ive never used wubi. so dont know anything about doing it.
[11:30] <maxwellian> Taev: You don't want to do that unless you have to.
[11:30] <maxwellian> Taev: Usually, the packages you get through Synaptic are fine.
[11:30] <Taev> GPL Flash (SWF) Library - shared library
[11:30] <Taev> thats it
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> ubuntufreak:  you need 8gb swap? :) if you are going to use hibernate/suspend you want swap = at least your ram.
[11:30] <superikaro> PiKeyPL, m505-s4945 toshiba satellite
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> Taev:  ./configure? You are trying to compuild gplflash?
[11:30] <maxwellian> Taev: K, hold on, let me look that up.
[11:30] <vishnu> Dr_Willis, oh ok ok.. do u hav any idea of whom should i contact to get a solution in this regard??
[11:31] <ubuntufreak> Dr_Willis: I have 4GB ram so i thought double of it would do good
[11:31] <Taev> yeah i was trying to install the newest version of gplflash
[11:31] <Taev> i thought that might fix the problem
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> vishnu:  ive seen guides when i googled on wubi ages ago about scripts/ways to convert a wubi install to a full install.  check google and the fourms. i would suggest you use the wubi setip and Backup anything imporntant FIRST befor you mess with it
[11:31] <student> 有人會講國語嗎？
[11:31] <EricFisher> 我会
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> vishnu:  i think its also possible to do a normal install. Then access the files on teh wubi install. but ive never done that either
[11:31] <psycho_oreos> !cn | student
[11:32] <joshmuffin> !chinese | student
[11:32] <student> 這是啥？
[11:32] <joshmuffin> !chinese | ericfisher
[11:32] <vishnu> Dr_Willis, hmmm.. ok,,, thanks 4 d reply
[11:32] <student> 聊天室啊？
[11:32] <abhi_nav>  hi vishnu
[11:32] <maxwellian> Taev: Okay, so the gplflash is an open source effort to play Flash movies.
[11:33] <vishnu> ahi_nav, hi abhinav., i need a help frm u abt wubi installation
[11:33] <abhi_nav> !tab | vishnu
[11:33] <maxwellian> Taev: But you already have the Flash player, so you don't need it.
[11:33] <vishnu> ubottu, yeah.. i m familiar wid it.., dude :)
[11:34] <maxwellian> Taev: gplflash or gnash are for people who don't want to use Adobe Flash.
[11:34] <neurochrome> Dr_Willis, I think I can utilise notify-send to do this... ;)
[11:34] <Taev> alright ill uninstall it
[11:34] <vishnu> abhi_nav, hi,i have installed ubuntu inside windows and have all my files and folders here... now, i want to install UBUNTU fully... but i want my files and folders in virtual to shift to the real one.. how can i do that.. plz help..
[11:34] <abhi_nav> vishnu, whats the issue? and btw ubottu is not dude its 'she'
[11:34] <maxwellian> Taev: Thanks.
[11:34] <abhi_nav> vishnu, wait
[11:34] <vishnu> abhi_nav, oh i guessed the other way :).. sorry !
[11:34] <codebrainz> Error: I am only a rot, please don't think I'm counter intelligence. :(
[11:35] <vishnu> abhi_nav, ok
[11:35] <Vbitz> http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?p=23099897 not my post by the way
[11:35] <superikaro> PiKeyPL, m505-s4945 toshiba satellite
[11:35] <superikaro> PiKeyPL, m505-s4945 toshiba satellite
[11:35] <student> .
[11:35] <Vbitz> why would this be happening
[11:35] <Taev> everything works perfectly now
[11:35] <maxwellian> Taev: Really?  You can play movies?
[11:35] <Taev> apparently the version I had has a bug with firefox 3.6.6. when its installed with adobe's flash
[11:35] <PiKeyPL> superikaro: I don't know anything about this model.
[11:35] <codebrainz> Taev, BACKUP NOW!!!
[11:35] <Taev> yeah
[11:36] <maxwellian> Taev: Awesome.
[11:36] <abhi_nav> vishnu, just back it in your pen drive?
[11:36] <ubuntufreak> Dr_Willis, Can i partition based on this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace#Separate%20/boot ?
[11:36] <Taev> yeah apparently it wasn't an issue until i updated to 3.6.6
[11:36] <raven_> waltop tablet: cursor does not move any more after tapping with the pen - any ideas?
[11:36] <Taev> 3.6.6. didn't like having 2 SWF players
[11:36] <Taev> and crashed when ever one was engaged
[11:36] <superikaro> PiKeyPL, thanks
[11:36] <superikaro> hi, im having a problem with my laptop, its heat a lot, more than when i use windows vista, i guess, coolers are not working. thanks
[11:36] <vishnu> abhi_nav, is there any better alternative.. i want my packages too...
[11:36] <maxwellian> Taev: 3.6.6 probably brought a newer Adobe too.
[11:37] <Taev> well Im just happy its working now
[11:37] <maxwellian> Taev: Me too.
[11:37] <firestorm> Hi. I don't have opengl on my display. I also don't have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf where I can add gl to be loaded. My graphics is i915 and I'm running 10.04. Any guidance?
[11:37] <maxwellian> Taev: For future reference, I made a lot of assumptions in this process.
[11:37] <Taev> I, however, am unhappy that I smoked all my cigarettes because I was so aggravated.
[11:37] <Taev> lol.
[11:37] <vishnu> abhi_nav, i can back my files.. but packages?? how to go about?
[11:37] <codebrainz> superikaro, ask about cpufreq and acpi
[11:37] <maxwellian> Taev: I assumed you were using latest Ubuntu, and I assumed Firefox was crashing when you started up.
[11:38] <maxwellian> Taev: It turned out to be important that those assumptions were wrong.
[11:38] <abhi_nav> !apton | vishnu
[11:38] <hp> kaka
[11:38] <prince_jammys> !clone | vishnu
[11:38] <abhi_nav> !aptoncd | vishnu
[11:38] <hp> xoxokaka
[11:38] <oCean_> hp: what is your issue?
[11:38] <maxwellian> Taev: So next time you have a question, try to give as much information as possible right away.
[11:39] <maxwellian> Taev: The thing about not crashing right away was critical to helping with the Flash problem.
[11:39] <sabat> wtf was that? [the hp guy]
[11:39] <vishnu> ubottu, thank u...
[11:39] <neurochrome> Dr_Willis, if you're interested (for future reference) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1240828
[11:39] <Taev> well I thought I was being clear.
[11:39] <Taev> guess not
[11:39] <Taev> thanks
[11:39] <Taev> adios.
[11:39] <FloodBot1> Taev: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:39] <abhi_nav> !msg ubottu !bot
[11:39] <codebrainz> sabat, it means live decent and roster
[11:39] <abhi_nav> !bot > vishnu
[11:40] <oCean_> sabat: never mind that. Also, watch your language, even if abbreviated
[11:40]  * maxwellian collapses, exhausted
[11:40] <spiky_> maxwellian: lol
[11:40]  * abhi_nav expressing sympathy towards maxwellian
[11:40] <Alcohol52> !automate
[11:41] <maxwellian> That was really something.
[11:41] <codebrainz> maxwellian, I'm raising your salary to $4.45CAD
[11:41] <Alcohol52> !offline
[11:41] <firestorm>  don't have opengl on my display. I also don't have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf where I can add gl to be loaded. My graphics is i915 and I'm running 10.04. Any guidance?
[11:41] <spiky_> codebrainz: plus some Vallium
[11:42] <codebrainz> spiky_, it's not in the contract
[11:42] <maxwellian> codebrainz: I...I don't know what to say...
[11:42] <oCean_> codebrainz: again, please stay on topic
[11:42] <Alcohol52> !aptoncd
[11:42] <oCean_> Alcohol52: pleae use "/msg ubottu factoid" to search/browse ubottu's factoids
[11:42] <prince_jammys> Alcohol52: /msg ubottu SomeKeyword
[11:42]  * codebrainz is censored willingly
[11:43] <maxwellian> oCean_: The topic is recovering from a very trying troubleshooting session.
[11:43] <michal|3s> codebrainz Pirate_Hunter - ubuntu desktop working great now. somehow the usb creator had problems with copying squashfs to the pendrive (did it myself, worked). thx for your help and inspiration! :)
[11:43] <michal|3s> hm, that zotac thing is noisy
[11:43] <oCean_> maxwellian: you're welcome to do so in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:43] <michal|3s> my dell t105 serwer filled up with disks is quieter
[11:44] <codebrainz> michal|3s, any time
[11:45] <raven_> waltop tablet: cursor does not move any more after tapping with the pen - any ideas?
[11:46] <student> ㄋ
[11:46] <codebrainz> raven_, sure it's not a wacom tablet?
[11:47] <raven_> codebrainz, lsusb says waltop
[11:47] <alexandre_> sa sert a koi sa ?
[11:47] <oCean_> !fr | alexandre_
[11:47] <codebrainz> raven_, have no idea really, but i've had some wacom tablets that work well
[11:48] <codebrainz> that's not even french really is it?
[11:49] <raven_> codebrainz, iit worked when i installed it manually before 9.10. but now after one click with the pen it seems not to be released again
[11:49] <codebrainz> raven_, I'm not certain, but it's to do with xorg-input, if that helps to do with your queries
[11:50] <raven_> codebrainz, how to solve with xorg?
[11:50] <codebrainz> raven_, can't really help, but the configuration file is at /etc/X11/xorg.conf, google might help more :)
[11:53] <freedom> o.k. friends so what's new in ubuntu 10.4
[11:53] <abhi_nav> version
[11:53] <freedom> ihow to use the open surce
[11:53] <oCean_> freedom: do you have a technical issue? Other discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:54] <freedom> i i don't understand that
[11:54] <freedom> so i let it
[11:54] <freedom> lit
[11:54] <raven_> codebrainz, that is nearly what the issue is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-wacom/+bug/569294
[11:54] <abhi_nav> !ot > freedom
[11:54] <Pirate_Hunter> what is the site for todays log?
[11:54] <freedom> i hope some day i will finish that
[11:55] <freedom> because i hit microsoft
[11:55] <freedom> i wanna to lef them
[11:55] <oCean_> Pirate_Hunter: what logs ?
[11:55] <oCean_> freedom: stop please!
[11:55] <freedom> yet in ubuntu i have just problems
[11:55] <freedom> but i belive i will
[11:55] <oCean_> freedom: describe your issue to the channel
[11:56] <freedom> finish all
[11:56] <freedom> how
[11:56] <oCean_> freedom: STOP
[11:56] <Pirate_Hunter> oCean_, channel logs I forgot the url
[11:56] <oCean_> Pirate_Hunter: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[11:56] <MikeChelen> !offtopic | freedom
[11:57] <abhi_nav> !logs
[11:57] <abhi_nav> Pirate_Hunter, ^^
[11:57] <student> We Bai Bai ~
[12:00] <xiaogui> MikeChelen: 1st, Thanks for your help. But i still couldn't hide "Places" option. Yes, when i click add to Panel button,  there're Main Menu and Menu bar where it has "Applications" , "Places" and "System", but i still haven't figured out how to hide "Places" in the Menu bar, leaving only "Applications"  and "System"
[12:02] <jiang> Hi Hello!
[12:03] <xiaogui> But if i use Main Menu, then all the options including "Applications " and "System" will be under one column which won't show until i click the ubuntn icon.
[12:03] <maxwellian> !hello | jiang
[12:03] <Pirate_Hunter> thanks oCean_  abhi_nav
[12:03] <abhi_nav> ohhh yah ok Pirate_Hunter
[12:04] <MikeChelen> xiaogui: oh hmm, i see what you mean
[12:04] <raven_> how to save alsamixer seettings?
[12:05] <xiaogui> :) hehe...
[12:05] <xiaogui> I doubt if it's possible for me to delete the "Places" button...
[12:06] <GArReT> Hey peepz... I'm new to ubuntu... But where do i find the excutable and configure files if i've downloaded and installed something via the package manager?
[12:06] <MikeChelen> xiaogui: it seems not without keeping the rest of the menu the same
[12:07] <airtonix> GArReT, locate <name-of-program>
[12:07] <MikeChelen> err *while keeping the rest the same
[12:07] <abhi_nav> this is not your answer but as you said new to ubuntu, read this:
[12:07] <abhi_nav> !manual > GArReT
[12:08] <GArReT> Thank you abatoo :)
[12:08] <oCean_> GArReT: if you want to list all files in a package, use: dpkg -L <packagename"
[12:09] <airtonix> GArReT, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182201
[12:09] <airtonix> ^ first result.
[12:10] <xiaogui> :(  I prefer to put "Computer" icon where i can find all my files on desktop. That's the why i don't wanna "Places" in the Menu bar. But many thanks still, thanks for all your efforts. :D
[12:14] <MaT-dg> is it possible to send or recieve a bluetooth audio stream?
[12:19] <maxwellian> MaT-dg: It's probably possible, never tried it.  Have you searched Google?
[12:22] <fedeviola> hi there
[12:22] <fedeviola> how I take a screenshot?
[12:22] <spiky_> fedeviola: print screen
[12:23] <abhi_nav> alt +printscreen
[12:23] <opij> what are the services that are running that causes ubuntu to take up 400mb of RAM while idle?
[12:23] <opij> and how can i reduce them?
[12:23] <NigelS> fedeviola, or Applications-->Accessories-->Take Screenshot for more options
[12:24] <IStorm> Yea, opij, that's what I'd like to know as well, though I installed xubuntu to begin with.
[12:24] <fedeviola> thanks!!
[12:24] <maxwellian> MaT-dg: Check out www.bluez.org
[12:25] <bcuraboy> evora
[12:25] <maxwellian> MaT-dg: And in Synaptic, download the 'bluetooth' package.  It will get you the software you need, which has some documentation on www.bluez.org.
[12:25] <kevinphp> anybody has a gedit-folding plugin?
[12:25] <maxwellian> MaT-dg: Sorry I don't know more about it.
[12:25] <wolfie_> Hello
[12:25] <bcuraboy> oi
[12:25] <bcuraboy> hi
[12:25] <kevinphp> hi
[12:26] <erry> Can you help me get a WPN111 card work?
[12:26] <wolfie_> Anyone know how I can get .exe's to work
[12:26] <erry> It recof
[12:26] <erry> recognises the device, lists networks, but won't get an IP
[12:26] <opij> wolfie_: try wine
[12:26] <erry> :(
[12:26] <maxwellian> !wine | wolfie_
[12:26] <wolfie_> wine won't work.
[12:27] <maxwellian> wolfie_: Why not?
[12:27] <kevinphp> maybe you need some dlls
[12:27] <IStorm> wolfie_ : Were they written for Linux or Windows?
[12:27] <wolfie_> Windows.
[12:27] <abhi_nav> ??????
[12:27] <opij> ?
[12:27] <abhi_nav> .exe is written for win only? or not?
[12:28] <opij> yeah, i thought .exe was windows only
[12:28] <maxwellian> abhi_nav: There's nothing preventing someone from creating a Linux program with a .exe extension.
[12:28] <IStorm> Wolfie_: my advice is to get a pc, and install windows on it.
[12:28] <wolfie_> God dammit
[12:28] <erry> hello/? :(
[12:28] <IStorm> It happens
[12:28] <maxwellian> abhi_nav: I've never seen it, but I guess it's possible. :P
[12:28] <maxwellian> wolfie_: Why dosn't WINE work?
[12:29] <abhi_nav> maxwellian, I dont think. apart from legal issue there is compatibility issue.
[12:29] <wolfie_> Error messadges
[12:29] <wolfie_> I try to run a program and i get hit with a bunch of error messages
[12:29] <maxwellian> wolfie_: Have you looked up that program on the Wine page?
[12:30] <oCean_> wolfie_: watch your language in this channel please
[12:30] <wolfie_> Yes and it says its compatable.
[12:30] <opij> wolfie_: if there's a bunch of error messages, i would google them, and/or post them on a forum and/or pastebin them here
[12:30] <IStorm> Emulation is dicey at best, and you'll ALWAYS be burning extra machine code and RAM in the process.
[12:31] <maxwellian> wolfie_: What are you trying to run?
[12:31] <MaT-dg> maxwellian: searched google but no luck so far, I'll check out bluez thx
[12:31] <abhi_nav> maxwellian, if it was possible there could not be any need for 'wine'?
[12:31] <wolfie_> Alright then I'll see if there are an other updates for wine that i haven't installed
[12:31] <wolfie_> see ya
[12:31] <maxwellian> abhi_nav: Certainly, programs compiled for Windows will not run on Linux by themselves.
[12:31] <abhi_nav> hmm
[12:32] <opij> why is the total number of nicks here so low?
[12:32] <IStorm> wolfie_ : Is it some small utility, or are you trying to run a game or something serious like that?
[12:32] <maxwellian> abhi_nav: I can easily create a Linux program with an extension .exe, though.
[12:32] <biopyte> how can i get rid of "plugin-container", once and forever? this piece of crap is eating up the CPU.
[12:32] <maxwellian> abhi_nav: Or he might have just been referring to how to run executable programs on Linux in general.
[12:32] <abhi_nav> maxwellian, i m not getting your point
[12:33] <syssan> Is there a way to change the remote desktop-password from the terminal?
[12:33] <maxwellian> abhi_nav: I made the same assumption you did, but IStorm did ask a valid question.
[12:33] <abhi_nav> may be
[12:35] <IStorm> maxwellian : At first, I wondered as well if he was just talking about a chmod situation or something. My first unix executable was a.out . LOL
[12:35] <disharmony> Hi all; my screen turns black when booting the desktop cd, is there a way to get a console/text install or disable gdm somehow from the bootable cd ?
[12:36] <maxwellian> syssan: http://www.google.com/search?q=change+remote+desktop+password+ubuntu
[12:36] <maxwellian> syssan: I've never worked with remote desktop, but the first link in Google looks promising.
[12:36] <erry> Hello :( please
[12:36] <IStorm> disharmony : do you have a mouse pointer at all?
[12:37] <maxwellian> syssan: I haven't read any of those results, I just did a Google search for you.
[12:37] <marcela> Hi everybody
[12:37] <erry> i tried googling
[12:37] <erry> what the forum said didnt work
[12:37] <maxwellian> IStorm: Right, you never know.
[12:37] <disharmony> IStorm: no I think the mode is wrong, my screen disables itself; So if I can get a console instead of automagically X I perhaps can fix it
[12:37] <maxwellian> lastlog erry
[12:37] <maxwellian> Sorry.
[12:38] <matteo1990> I am having problems with audio in ubuntu 10.04. All worked fine but now (after working on alsamixer to get the mic works on skype) i can hear audio on my fujitsu amilo pi 1505 only if i plug in the headphones.. Any tips?
[12:38] <marcela> Do any of you know the size of "lucid security" mirror? What about "lucid backports? I'm not sure if I have enought disk space
[12:39] <disharmony> IStorm: when I remove splash and quiet from the kernel cmdline within grub I perfectly get text output, but when the init starts it tries to switch to graphics mode and then it's gone
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  using 10.04 or what version?
[12:39] <disharmony> 10.04
[12:39] <Guest77041> hi all! i wanted to login to my box remotely through ssh before i log on locally at the box. But before im logged in locally i cant log on remotely, it says "host down" how comes?!
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  i got some notes on removeing Plymouth so you get text mode :) no splasy gfx. no framebuffer
[12:39] <IStorm> disharmony : well, I was just thinking about the same sort of thing that happened to me a while ago, and a friend of mine.
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  let me pastebin it
[12:40] <disharmony> Dr_Willis: that would be great, thanks.
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> disharmony: http://pastebin.com/7f1p9K0a
[12:40] <maxwellian> erry: Sorry you're having trouble.  Wireless can be frustrating.  Give me a minute to learn a bit about your card.
[12:40] <disharmony> thanks Dr_Willis
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  i blacklisted the fbmodule, and disabled teh plymouth and console service. that was doing some tweaking to the console also.
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  its worked on 2 of my machines just fine so far. I dont know what will happen if i have to fsck at boot.. not seen  any messages about that yet. :0
[12:41] <IStorm> disharmony : do you know if GDM is running or not? Can you hotkey hmmmm, what is it, alt-f2?
[12:41] <disharmony> Dr_Willis: ok this is nice, but this requieres a working installation in the first place, right ?
[12:41] <maxwellian> Guest77041: You're trying to log in to your Ubuntu machine from another machine?
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  you cant even get to the console?  theres the 'text' option you can use to force it to a text mode. that wont even start GDM
[12:42] <disharmony> IStorm: I can't switch to tty1 for example (ctrl-alt-f1 or f2 doesn't seem to work)
[12:42] <Guest77041> maxwellian: yes
[12:42] <maxwellian> erry: Can you walk me through how you set up your WPN111?  Did you have to use ndiswrapper?
[12:42] <maxwellian> Guest77041: Are these machines on the same network?
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  you can edit the grub line at the grub menu  ---> linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-22-generic root=UUID=83bc3df7-b039-445c-82c9-e0c5ff235044 ro nofb
[12:42] <disharmony> Dr_Willis: I tried the text option as a kernel cmdline option, ran in to the same problem
[12:42] <erry> maxwellian, yes
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  to become -> linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-22-generic root=UUID=83bc3df7-b039-445c-82c9-e0c5ff235044 ro nofb
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  to become -> linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-22-generic root=UUID=83bc3df7-b039-445c-82c9-e0c5ff235044 text
[12:43] <disharmony> Dr_Willis: I did that, but lemme try it again to be really sure
[12:43] <erry> maxwellian, it gave me a network list but couldnt get an ip from my net
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  whats not working then? :) i missed somthing.
[12:43] <erry> Now its worse no network list D:
[12:43] <Guest77041> maxwellian: yah, im actually logged in remotely through ssh, but it only workes after i logged in locally in the first place
[12:43] <maxwellian> erry: Did you just do something that might have caused that?
[12:43] <matteo1990> I am having problems with audio in ubuntu 10.04. All worked fine but now (after working on alsamixer to get the mic works on skype) i can hear audio on my fujitsu amilo pi 1505 only if i plug in the headphones.. Any tips?
[12:44] <erry> maxwellian, no, its a live distro and i just rebooted and started over
[12:44] <aeon-ltd> matteo1990: check alsamixer again? max it out
[12:44] <erry> the led of my device is blinking
[12:44] <IStorm> disharmony : Well, I don't think I'm of any use then, our situation was with window managers not loading properly, but I could at least do alt-f2 and run stuff.
[12:44] <maxwellian> erry: You're doing this on a LiveCD?
[12:44] <erry> yes
[12:44] <matteo1990> aeon-ltd, In eadphones i can hear music!
[12:44] <disharmony> Dr_Willis: yep, even with text it seems to be swithcing to "some" graphics mode, or perhaps it's loading the nvidia driver which might screw things up
[12:44] <erry> :/ it doesnt show wirrelss networks anymore
[12:44] <aeon-ltd> matteo1990: yeah so check alsamixer again
[12:45] <disharmony> IStorm: thanks for your time ;)
[12:45] <aeon-ltd> matteo1990: all outputs are separated not collated
[12:45] <maxwellian> erry: I've never booted from a LiveCD, but wouldn't you have to go through the ndiswrapper step again if you rebooted?  I don't think it's going to save changes to the CD?
[12:45] <erry> maxwellian, no :p
[12:45] <erry> maxwellian, it doesnt save
[12:46] <IStorm> Wow, I am falling in love with Empathy, really really quick.
[12:46] <erry> maxwellian, however it doesnt work anymore
[12:46] <maxwellian> erry: Did you do the ndiswrapper step again?
[12:46] <erry> maxwellian, i tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=bfbb59687f4c268d169579c7b9f31433&t=414023
[12:46] <matteo1990> aeon-ltd, i am on it, i have PCM thats high, Master 00 (non muted but i can't raise it)  CD muted and Beep Muted, S/pidf 00, of-hook 00 and Caller id 00
[12:46] <maxwellian> Guest77041: Hmm...I would not think that would be the case.
[12:47] <maxwellian> Guest77041: What machine are you using to to initiate the login?  Another Ubuntu machine?
[12:47] <Guest77041> issh on iphone
[12:48] <erry> so any ideas
[12:49] <jelly-one> Hello! Is firefox / xulrunner-1.9.1 in 9.10 affected by CVE-2010-1201  CVE-2010-0183  CVE-2008-5913? I see no security update for xulrunner-1.9.1 since March 31st.
[12:49] <maxwellian> erry: Well obviously you've taken a step backward, unfortunately.  Are you sure you followed the steps correctly the second time?
[12:49] <erry> maxwellian, well i cant follow the sudo ndiswrapper load_fw_ar5523 /etc/ndiswrapper/netwpn111/ar5523.bin
[12:50] <erry> maxwellian, it doesnt have that command
[12:50] <aeon-ltd> jelly-one: pleases wait for firefox branding to take place
[12:50] <maxwellian> erry: Doesn't have which command?
[12:50] <erry> maxwellian, load_fw_
[12:50] <jelly-one> aeon-ltd, can I assume that's a "yes", then?
[12:51] <maxwellian> erry: So how did you do it the first time?  I thought you said you followed the guide?
[12:51] <aeon-ltd> jelly-one: yeah unless your using bleeding edge distros branding takes about 1 month, i'm on arch we got 3.6.6 less than 1 day from release
[12:51] <erry> maxwellian, yes, except for that step
[12:52] <maxwellian> erry: So both times, you skipped that step, and the second time it didn't work?
[12:52] <erry> maxwellian, yea
[12:52] <erry> very consistant huh
[12:53] <jelly-one> aeon-ltd: eh, seems like a suboptimal protocol when security updates are in question
[12:53] <erry> maxwellian, also tried ndisgtk
[12:53] <maxwellian> Guest77041: Not sure what's happening there.  Do you have a firewall set up?
[12:53] <erry> it says hardware present
[12:53] <maxwellian> erry: Yes, good.
[12:53] <erry> but that's not helpful
[12:53] <aeon-ltd> jelly-one: yeah but most users like branding and ubuntu specific written docs
[12:53] <maxwellian> erry: I have used that once before, it wasn't very clear...
[12:54] <erry> :(
[12:54] <maxwellian> erry: Did you reboot because you weren't able to get an IP?
[12:54] <erry> Yes
[12:54] <erry> Actually well
[12:54] <erry> I removed the device from where it was and put it higher
[12:54] <erry> but then it stopped working so i reboot it
[12:54] <erry> now its back where i originally had it
[12:54] <erry> it gets a fine signal at windows btw
[12:54] <erry> so the possition shouldnt really matter
[12:55] <maxwellian> erry: No, that's probably not the issue.
[12:55] <aeon-ltd> jelly-one: if you like bleeding edge use other ppas, gentoo or arch linux
[12:55] <erry> :(
[12:55] <maxwellian> erry: You're right.
[12:55]  * erry throws it away
[12:55] <maxwellian> erry: Okay, give me a second to look up this command that's not working for you.
[12:55] <erry> It worked at a previous version of ubuntu with ndisgtk
[12:55] <erry> but that version is _old_
[12:55] <jelly-one> aeon-ltd: if I liked bleeding edge I wouldn't use ubuntu 9.10, would I.
[12:55] <aeon-ltd> jelly-one: yeahh
[12:55] <erry> and even then it would kick me off once a while
[12:55] <maxwellian> erry: It's good news that it worked at some point though.
[12:55] <erry> maxwellian, yea
[12:56] <maxwellian> erry: Why are you using the LiveCD, by the way?
[12:56] <John3> what kind of Linux I can install on a router? I want to run Linux in a virtual machine on my computer and have it be a router for the entire house
[12:56] <erry> maxwellian, cause i want to make it work before i instlal
[12:56] <cutiyar> while upgrading firefox , I get this error http://pastebin.com/sn0TjSkr
[12:57] <jelly-one> More generally, is there a db or a web page that tracks CVEs to package versions in ubuntu?  Similar to  http://security-tracker.debian.org/ for Debian?
[12:57] <maxwellian> erry: How forward thinking of you. :)
[12:57] <erry> XD
[12:57] <maxwellian> erry: Did you read this whole thread?  It goes on to talk about the error you've experienced.
[12:58] <erry> Ive never got wireless to work in linux. In the best-case-scenario it doesn't work, in the worst-case-scenario it kills the kernel
[12:58] <erry> I have 3 compouters!
[12:58] <erry> ajnd its like that in them all
[12:58] <erry> bad luck :P
[12:58] <aeon-ltd> cutiyar: err read the third line
[12:58] <maxwellian> erry: Wireless is a tricky beast.  Now let's both read the whole thread and see if something comes up. :)
[12:59] <maxwellian> erry: The one you sent me the link to.
[12:59] <jelly-one> cutiyar, make sure you don't have any other package manager tool already running; also, there's no need for "sudo" when you're already root
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> erry:  hmm.. im about 5 for 5 - wireless works beter for me in linux then windows.
[12:59] <cutiyar> maxwellian, I runned dpkg
[12:59] <erry> o.o
[12:59]  * erry steals Dr_Willis wireless adapter
[12:59] <jelly-one> cutiyar, also2, that's invalid apt-get syntax.
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> erry:  i have fougjht with the same identical laptops in releasses past however.. but now most are a few clicks and connected.
[13:00] <cutiyar> maxwellian,http://pastebin.com/Vg5TrWGE
[13:00] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: erry has a USB card, could be a little more work.
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> Ive never had a usb-qwireless gizmo
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> Those things are so cheap. :) may as well reseasrch and buy one known to work
[13:01] <Lazyvee> if wireless doesn't work then wifi doesn't work in Linux?
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> Lazyvee:  and the differance btweeen wireless and 'wifi' is ?
[13:01] <maxwellian> cutiyar: What Firefox version do you have, and what are you trying to get?
[13:01] <gOLDfeesh> question. if a hard drive is advertise 320GB how big would windows pick up the drive for? Because I'm seeing it as 297GB...
[13:01] <erry> where can i download a zip with the wpn files
[13:01] <erry> i need some athwpn thing i dont have
[13:02] <cutiyar> maxwellian, I have 3.6.3 I liked to upgrade it
[13:02] <gOLDfeesh> sweetpi referred me to : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte#Consumer_confusion but doesn't seem to make much sense.
[13:02] <maxwellian> erry: Hold it, there, professor.  I said read it, don't do anything yet...these people could all be way off. :)
[13:02] <cutiyar> and now it will not open because I get these error
[13:02] <jelly-one> gOLDfeesh: that seems on par because of the differences between SI and binary-based units.
[13:02] <erry> BUT
[13:02] <maverick757> hey guys, got a problem using ubuntu 10.4
[13:02] <A[D]minS> i mound nfs disk as the following "<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/hazem on /nfs type nfs (rw,addr=<IP_ADDRESS>)" , But when i try to cd /nfs it give permission denied   <please advise"
[13:02] <maxwellian> cutiyar: You normally do not manually upgrade anything in Ubuntu.
[13:03] <cutiyar> why not?
[13:03] <erry> we i have work to do
[13:03] <k00giez> happy 4th of july
[13:03] <maverick757> When I want to mount a HDD using NTFS file system ubuntu says: Not authorized
[13:03] <gOLDfeesh> jelly-one yeah just looked at http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100123174255AAnHFTq
[13:03] <maverick757> Yesterday it worked
[13:03] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Just run 'sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade'
[13:04] <maxwellian> erry: Are you saying you don't have time to work on this now?
[13:04] <cutiyar> maxwellian, it will upgrade alll I don't all I just want firefox to update
[13:04] <jelly-one> maxwellian, you're not worried about his "read-only filesystem" when running dpkg?
[13:04] <erry> maxwellian, well i cant waste all day on something that's not gonna work anyway
[13:04] <erry> I'll probably be asked to file a bug report which will go unnoticed like my previous one
[13:04] <disharmony> Dr_Willis: well I have a usable screen now with another vga card...
[13:05] <szymon> hello, anybody know how to install mapsource on linux? i have Garmin Etrex H, and it isnt have usb cable (have RS232) - sorry, im a little know english
[13:05] <Lazyvee> Ubuntu 10.04 connects to my router but I can't get online, what am I doing wrong?
[13:05] <maxwellian> erry: Yes, that would be frustrating.  All of the support for Ubuntu is free, which is nice, but volunteer, which is sometimes not as nice.
[13:06] <erry> i never get anything for free
[13:06] <erry> instead i work for free
[13:06] <erry> and never get a thanks
[13:06]  * erry goes emo
[13:06] <FloodBot1> erry: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> erry: elmo?
[13:06] <erry> i hate that bot.
[13:06] <cutiyar> MAXWELLIAN , see this http://pastebin.com/uTiSKGDa while running sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[13:06] <maxwellian> erry: Well everyone in here is working for free, so at least you're not alone. :)
[13:07] <A[D]minS> Lazyvee if its connect to your router and u can ping router-ip , then i believe its something related to DNS.
[13:07] <erry> yes but nobody forces you to work
[13:07] <erry> you can be a butt and not work
[13:07] <A[D]minS> Lazyvee: u r using static IP or Dynamic ?
[13:07] <maxwellian> jelly-one: I've never seen anyone try to use dpgk that way.  I can't imagine that's a suitable way to upgrade a given package.
[13:07] <disharmony> jeesh, why is ubuntu so different? What's the correct *way* to create the device files in /dev in the installation cdrom instead of mknod'ing them myself?
[13:07] <Lazyvee> it's a dynamic IP
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  Hmm.. /dev/ is supposed to autopopulate as needed when the various modules for devices load. Ive not needed to mknod stuff in years.
[13:08] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Go ahead and follow the advice of the error message.
[13:08] <disharmony> Dr_Willis: well the kernel detects sda and sdb, but they are not in /dev ;)
[13:08] <erry> ;/
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  so 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' dosent show anything eh?
[13:09] <erry> when i get a university degree ill work for money
[13:09] <erry> !
[13:09] <jelly-one> maxwellian, "dpkg --configure -a" is a common idiom for cleaning up partially failed installations/upgrades/removals.
[13:09] <maxwellian> erry: What do you want to do?  We can take a look at your problem, knowing we may not succeed, or we can not.  Let me know.
[13:09] <cutiyar> maxwellian, it say read only file system I don't undrstand it
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  theres been some odd controller/drives missing issues ive heard of in 10.04 -
[13:09] <erry> i want it fixed
[13:09] <erry> thats what i want
[13:09] <disharmony> Dr_Willis: unable to open sda; Dr_Willis I don't have any controllers, using iscsi
[13:10] <disharmony> i will mknod them myself... ;)
[13:10] <A[D]minS> ok manually edit dns file  and add ur DNS manual . use the following steps : "sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf"  ,,, THEN insert the bold line  nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  I kniow nothing about iScsi. so you are on your own.
[13:10] <A[D]minS> Lazyvee: ^
[13:10] <jelly-one> cutiyar, that probably means one of your filesystems needed to make apt/dpkg work had an error and has gone read-only automatically.
[13:10] <maxwellian> jelly-one: Yes, that I've seen, but he left off the 'a' in the '-a'.  Guess it was enough to throw me. :P
[13:10] <maxwellian> jelly-one: Thought he was trying to read from stdin or something. :P
[13:10] <disharmony> well this isn't iscsi related, but mknod solved it
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> disharmony:  you sure you got the proper modules loaded? somthing seems odd. :) perhaps file a bug report
[13:11] <erry> nobody reads bug reports
[13:11] <jelly-one> cutiyar, inspect the output of "dmesg", it might provide clues
[13:11] <erry> i have a report there for a week
[13:11] <erry> or more
[13:11] <Arkns> morning all
[13:11] <cutiyar> jelly-one , what should I do to fix it?
[13:11] <erry> nobody cares.
[13:11] <FloodBot1> erry: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:11] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Did you run the 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> erry:  well given the info you have been doing here.. im not suprised at that
[13:11] <cutiyar> maxwellian,yes
[13:12] <jelly-one> cutiyar, it depends on the reason it went read-only; if it's a hardware issue it might have to be dealt with hardware changes. OTOH a reboot and a filesystem check might fix it.
[13:12] <Arkns> I installed ubuntu server and after installed kubuntu-desktop. my wireless was set but it`s not workig browsing and apt-get on console
[13:12] <Lazyvee> I'll try this, thanks you!
[13:12] <Arkns> what could be?
[13:13] <maxwellian> cutiyar: What did it say when you ran the command?
[13:13] <cutiyar> maxwellian, http://paste.ubuntu.com/459093/
[13:13] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Thanks, sorry to keep making you paste.
[13:13] <cutiyar> maxwellian, not probloum
[13:15] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Hmmm...what was the first thing you did to try to upgrade Firefox?
[13:15] <cutiyar> sudo apt-get upgrade firefox
[13:15] <jelly-one> whatever cutiyar did, it wouldn't corrupt the fs
[13:16] <Lazyvee> thanks for helping, have a nice day everyone
[13:18] <maxwellian> jelly-one: What do you think, fsck?
[13:19] <jelly-one> "cutiyar, it depends on the reason it went read-only; if it's a hardware issue it might have to be dealt with hardware changes. OTOH a reboot and a filesystem check might fix it."
[13:19] <iddo> what decided which terminal is launched for desktop-entry .desktop files with Terminal=true ?
[13:19] <jelly-one> cutiyar, inspect the output of "dmesg", it might provide clues
[13:19] <iddo> i tried gnome-default-applications-properties, and tried to change sym link for /etc/alternatives/x-terminal-emulator
[13:19] <jelly-one> If I must repeat myself.
[13:19] <iddo> but still gnome-terminal is used
[13:19] <cutiyar> jelly-joe, I don't understood
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> iddo:   tat x-terminal-emulator is a link to  the 'default' terminal program
[13:19] <jelly-one> cutiyar, "dmesg" is a command showing kernel messages.
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> iddo:  the galternatives tool can let you change that system default
[13:20] <jelly-one> cutiyar, pastebin the last 50-100 lines of its output
[13:20] <iddo> Dr_Willis: galternatives ?
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> iddo:  yes.. thats the name of the tool. One of several tools to admin the 'alterantives' system ubuntu uses
[13:21] <iddo> Dr_Willis: i changed the sym link myself to another terminal, but still gnome-terminal is used
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> iddo:  i susggest useing the proper tools.. not just moving symlinks around
[13:21] <jelly-one> cutiyar, this output can be used to figure out the reason why one of your filesystems encountered an error and remounted itself in read-only mode
[13:21] <cutiyar> jely-joe,http://pastebin.com/mXxm7YEc
[13:21] <iddo> Dr_Willis: ok trying
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> iddo:  its also possible thers some gnome setting thats overriding the system defaults
[13:21] <cutiyar> jelly-joe, http://pastebin.com/mXxm7YEc
[13:23] <iddo> Dr_Willis: any idea how to find it? i tried to google this issue and i dont find anything
[13:24] <bobo123> I have problems with getting games use the screen fullscreen, I assume that something fails at changing resolution so it paints black on the rest of the screen. are there something bad with my settings?
[13:24] <bobo123> I use nvidias graphic drivers
[13:25] <iddo> Dr_Willis: i tried galternatives hmm, how come it managed to change the sym link without sudo access?
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> iddo:  you did notice the system ->>>> perfered applications item? it has a setting for a terminal
[13:26] <iddo> Dr_Willis: yes i did, it didnt have any effect either
[13:26] <boldii> hi
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> iddo:  i imagine it changed it on a per user setting - not system wide
[13:27] <boldii> is it possible to change the contents of the "Files & Folders" entry in the ubuntu netbook edition?
[13:27] <iddo> Dr_Willis: anyway i tried galternatives now too, changed to xterm, still no effect.... any other ideas?
[13:28] <Psirus> hi, I have just tried to control my monitor with gddccontrol, which worked fine. however, I can't use the app for the panel to switch between profiles, because it says no monitors found, run gddccontrol first
[13:28] <maxwellian> jelly-one: cutiyar pinged out, but I'd like to know the resolution to this problem, if you have time?
[13:28] <A[D]minS> Guys would you please advise with this case. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/X677Uy8Y
[13:28] <matteo1990> I am having problems with audio in ubuntu 10.04. All worked fine but now (after working on alsamixer to get the mic works on skype) i can hear audio on my fujitsu amilo pi 1505 only if i plug in the headphones.. Any tips?
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> iddo:  no idea. I forget the orignal problem
[13:28] <iddo> Dr_Willis: and it didnt seem to change per usr, i see the sym link in /etc/alternatived changed to xterm
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> iddo:  you do have xterm installed?
[13:29] <iddo> yes
[13:29] <iddo> the original problem was
[13:29] <iddo> what decided which terminal is launched for desktop-entry .desktop files with Terminal=true ?
[13:29] <iddo> decided=decides
[13:31] <volve> hey all, I'm using user-level security and have 2 users writing to the same share. The 1st user is an admin so obviously has root perms to the filesystem, but the 2nd user isn't, however she still seems to be able to delete files owned by the 1st user that have only read privileges. What am I doing wrong? :/
[13:32] <bobo123> I'll be back later
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> iddo:  personally.. i cant recal ever using the launch in terminal feature
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> iddo:  i always make a launcher that does 'xterm -e 'pathtocommand'
[13:34] <rapha> Hi!
[13:35] <david> hi
[13:35] <rapha> How can it be that I install Ubuntu one some non-technical people's PC, and then the first update comes, and the box right out doesn't boot anymore?
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> rapha:  ive had windows machines not even make it that far
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> rapha:  bugs and regressions happen. They normalluy get fixed very fast however.
[13:36] <rapha> Dr_Willis: unfortunately for these ppl, windows always booted trustfully, albeit slowly
[13:37] <rapha> Dr_Willis: i booted the ubuntu on that machine from CD now and ran aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade (which brought the -23 kernel in) and it still doesn't boot. The CD itself requires "noapic nolapic acpi=off" to boot, but these are also set in GRUB, so that can't be it...
[13:38] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Hi cutiyar.  Back?
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> rapha:  clarify what it is doing. 'dosent boot' is rather vague
[13:38] <cutiyar> maxwellian , sorry my computer damaged
[13:39] <cutiyar> by this update
[13:39] <maxwellian> cutiyar: It's not clear (to me) exactly what caused the damage, but jelly-one seems to be right that you have a problem with the filesystem.
[13:40] <rapha> Dr_Willis: it starts to boot, then (when I disable "quite nosplash" before booting) shows "Starting AppArmor profiles" and hangs there forever.
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> rapha:  thers also a 'text' option to get a bit more verbose messages at boot up.
[13:41] <cutiyar> maxwellian, how to locate the brocken package?
[13:41] <maxwellian> cutiyar: I recommend that you force a file system check on the reboot.
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> rapha:  replace teh 'quiet nosplash' with 'text'  and see if any more info shows up
[13:42] <cutiyar> maxwellian ,I don't understand sorry
[13:42] <maxwellian> cutiyar: No problem, didn't expect you to.  I just wanted to say what we're going to do. :)
[13:42] <matteo1990> I am having problems with audio in ubuntu 10.04. All worked fine but now (after working on alsamixer to get the mic works on skype) i can hear audio on my fujitsu amilo pi 1505 only if i plug in the headphones.. Any tips?
[13:42] <rapha> Dr_Willis: okay, let me try that ... will take a minute, I messed around already now and have to restore the original GRUB config first.
[13:42] <aeon-ltd> rapha: just remove quiet its verbose by default
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> rapha:  other then that i have no idea. that fact you have to use "noapic nolapic acpi=off"   is not a good sign to begin with.
[13:42] <cutiyar> maxwellian, it said use broken filter to locate
[13:43] <rapha> aeon-ltd: well then Dr_Willis' suggestion wouldnt make sense and I was again only left with staring at the "Starting AppArmor profiles" message forever and a day
[13:43] <cutiyar> maxwellian, where I use broken filter?
[13:43] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Have you already pasted that message?
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> I think 'text' totally makes it show most everything.
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> text verbose - Might show more info.
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> or text noquiet
[13:43] <aeon-ltd> rapha: ok try Dr_Willis idea first
[13:43] <rapha> Dr_Willis: well, some computers have hardware problems. I've come to accept that. And it did run absolutely reliably up until the update. Plus, it works fine from CD...
[13:43] <cutiyar> maxwellian, no
[13:44] <rapha> aeon-ltd: about to :)
[13:44] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Would you please?
[13:44] <rapha> It's just kinda hard to evangelise Ubuntu like that, because stuff like this makes ppl lose trust, esp. when they were skeptical to begin with...
[13:45] <cutiyar> maxwellian,http://pastebin.com/iprwviVb
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> I find it harder to evangelize windows when you hear about the major exploits.. but  comptuiers are complex and thats the bottom line.
[13:46] <maxwellian> cutiyar: When did you get that message?  What gave you that message?
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> at least with Linux you can 'pop the hood' and try to fix things. Once you get  the hood open.
[13:46] <inspiron> anyone use google talk with pidgin?
[13:46] <maxwellian> inspiron: What's your question?
[13:46] <maxwellian> !anyone | inspiron
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> bbl. gotta chase the grandkids.
[13:47] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: You'll never catch them, give up.
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> maxwellian:  yes i will.. I got COOKIES! :)
[13:48] <cutiyar> maxwellian, when I want update from update manager
[13:48] <maxwellian> Dr_Willis: Mwah ha ha ha!
[13:49] <maxwellian> cutiyar: First things first, let's run that fsck.
[13:50] <rapha> aaaah crap
[13:50] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Type 'sudo touch /forcefsck'
[13:50] <cutiyar> maxwellian , when my computer rebooted was not running I entered fsck after this I could run
[13:50] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Oh, you already ran fsck?
[13:50] <rapha> aeon-ltd: Dr_Willis: no extra info and doesnt work with default grub settings either ... just gonna reinstall it after backing up the home dir.
[13:50] <cutiyar> maxwellian,yes
[13:51] <aeon-ltd> rapha: ok sorry couldn't help
[13:51] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Oh good.  Did you try the 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' command again?
[13:51] <Lantizia> Hey I've open two totally different hard disks up using fdisk.... both of them are "255 heads, 63 sectors/track" and "Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes"... does this mean that I can duplicate the partition boundaries from one to the other exactly?
[13:52] <rapha> aeon-ltd: no prob - i'm grateful for the suggestions anyway :)
[13:52] <cutiyar> maxwellian, ok wait
[13:53] <cutiyar> maxwellian, http://pastebin.com/wjW3GdkY
[13:54] <santac> Hello, how can i turn off my laptop numpad?
[13:55] <lobozoo> can someone help me install barry for blackberrys on 10.04
[13:55] <rapha> whats your prob lobozoo ?
[13:55] <seant> cutiyar: follow with "sudo apt-get install -f"
[13:56] <vlt> Lantizia: Should work
[13:57] <seant> Lantizia, If destination size is greater than source yes
[13:57] <kimak> who use backtrack 4?
[13:57] <guntbert> !backtrack | kimak
[13:57] <vlt> Lantizia: `sfdisk -d <origin> | sfdisk <target>` for example
[13:57] <maxwellian> seant: Should he try an upgrade first to see if that corrects the issue?
[13:58] <seant> max109, should'nt hurt
[13:58] <seant> maxwell_, shouldnt hurt
[13:58] <cutiyar> maxwellian,http://pastebin.com/Uae1Sh7S
[13:58] <maxwellian> seant: Almost...there!
[13:58] <lobozoo> rapha: well ive tried adding the ppa and then going to synaptic to add it but they are not there is there an easy way to do this,im relatively new to linux
[13:58] <Lantizia> vlt, when I specify the same first partition (begins at 1, ends at 13 cylinders) I get a different block count :S
[13:58] <kimak> how to install driver on backtrack?
[13:59] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Cool, that looks good.
[13:59] <seant> maxwellian, yeah should be set now
[13:59] <the_holstar> How to control the fan of my laptop by command?
[13:59] <cutiyar> maxwellian , now I want upgrade it
[14:00] <guntbert> kimak: backtrack is *not* supported here - ask in #backtack-linux please
[14:00] <guntbert> * #backtrack-linux
[14:01] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Now try 'sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade'
[14:01] <seant> maxwellian, is this an upgrade to lucid?
[14:02] <maxwellian> seant: No, he just wants to upgrade his Firefox.
[14:02] <seant> maxwellian, ok thx
[14:02] <maxwellian> seant: I'm assuming that it will be included in whatever normal upgrades.
[14:02] <maxwellian> seant: Do you know the best way to do a distro upgrade from the command line?
[14:02] <seant> maxwellian, he could get the latest from PPA if he wants to
[14:02] <DarsVaeda1> can someone suggest a nice tool for drawing exact schemas like with ahh i guess its called autodesk on windows
[14:03] <maxwellian> seant: He just wants 3.6.6, which I think is standard now.
[14:03] <maxwellian> !firefox
[14:03] <maxwellian> Hmmm, that's not what I wanted...
[14:04] <seant> maxwellian, or he could just use synaptic
[14:04] <DarsVaeda1> ahh its called autocad
[14:04] <guntbert> !info firefox | maxwellian
[14:04] <srini> Any tool for monitoring Wirless in linux
[14:04] <maxwellian> guntbert: Thanks. :)
[14:04] <the_holstar> I am trying to install a contorl panel in my ubuntu 10
[14:04] <the_holstar> which one will be the best?
[14:04] <anode> hey, in System_>Login screen, isn't there suppose to be a greeter tab? I want to change my gdm theme, but I cannot find where..
[14:04] <the_holstar> and i am looking for free package
[14:04] <maxwellian> seant: Yes, but he started out showing errors from the command line, so I thought I'd keep him there.
[14:05] <seant> maxwellian, ok
[14:05] <the_holstar> i want to control panel so that i can control my dns,apache,ftp,mysql,etc
[14:05] <maxwellian> seant: Of course, he keeps losing his connection, so hopefully he doesn't have some serious problem.
[14:05] <chanti> i am using ubuntu10, gnome panel not responding many times properly, can anybody help please
[14:06] <cutiyar> maxwellian , firefox was not upgraded
[14:07] <maxwellian> cutiyar: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[14:07] <maxwellian> cutiyar: 'lsb_release -a'
[14:07] <cutiyar> maxwellian , 10.4
[14:07] <rxd> which is better 9.10 or 10.04 ubuntu
[14:07] <Euphus> hello folkz :)
[14:08] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Okay, well 3.6.6 is supposed to be standard now...you ran 'firefox --version'?
[14:08] <anode> hey, in System_>Login screen, isn't there suppose to be a greeter tab? I want to change my gdm theme, but I cannot find where..
[14:08] <Euphus> why do my firefox allways lag on youtube or flashplayers?
[14:09] <maxwellian> rxd: "Better" doesn't really mean much...what's your question?
[14:09] <Euphus> too much extesions ??
[14:09] <lobozoo> is barry the only programe for blackberry
[14:09] <rxd> maxwellian: i want to know which is easier to use 9.10 or 10.04
[14:09] <maxwellian> Euphus: What do you mean, lag?  The playback is choppy?
[14:10] <rapha> lobozoo: never installed barry through a ppa tbh - let me check
[14:10] <Euphus> 10.04
[14:10] <rxd> maxwellian: which i will not encounter so many problems
[14:10] <lobozoo> rapha:thanx
[14:10] <maxwellian> rxd: 9.10 has been around longer, so presumably there's been a greater chance to fix bugs and whatnot.  But some of those bug fixes have been held off until 10.04.
[14:10] <rapha> lobozoo: i take it this is the ppa you used? https://launchpad.net/~doctormo/+archive/barry-snapshot
[14:11] <maxwellian> !karmic
[14:11] <Euphus> anybody else always has lags on youtube or flash?
[14:11] <atmos4> hi
[14:12] <rapha> lobozoo: well, if it is. could you open a terminal and type "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install barry"?
[14:12] <wullox> nope
[14:12] <atmos4> hmm, after upgrading to lucid form karmic, none of the sysv style init scripts were started
[14:12] <lobozoo> rapha: thats the one did what it says on the can , but still cant install barry
[14:12] <Euphus> what is barry?
[14:12] <atmos4> I then discovered, that it was due to /etc/inittab being removed
[14:12] <lobozoo> maybr im doing it wrong
[14:13] <lobozoo> euphus: program for blackberry
[14:13] <atmos4> I readded a file with only a single line "id:3:initdefault:" and now sysv style init scripts are started again
[14:13] <atmos4> isn't that a bug in lucid?
[14:13] <Euphus> lobozoo, ; ok , thnax ;)
[14:13] <seant> atmos4, upstart is the new mechanism which also runs the old sysV style init scripts.
[14:13] <atmos4> well it doesn't withtout /etc/inittab for me
[14:13] <seant> atmos4, It is from Karmic and beyond I think
[14:13] <maxwellian> rxd: Just go with 10.04.
[14:13] <maxwellian> cutiyar: What's happening?
[14:14] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Are you still on the old version?
[14:14] <seant> atmos4, there is no inittab
[14:14] <atmos4> seant: neither vdr nor netatalk were started unti I added /etc/inittab
[14:14] <atmos4> both use sysv style init scripts, not upstart
[14:15] <seant> You need to add them via update-rc.d
[14:15] <atmos4> so it seems upstart doesn't start the sysv script unless there is a default initlevel defined in inittab
[14:15] <atmos4> seant: I'm not stupid =)
[14:15] <rxd> is aufs any good as a file system
[14:15] <cutiyar> maxwellian, was not upgraded
[14:15] <maxwellian> cutiyar: You ran that command?
[14:15] <Euphus> i hate smartphones, or i hate htc tattoo!! its fucked kkep away from it folkz! hehe sounds like i have a breakdown lol
[14:15] <atmos4> seant: how you think they magically are started after creating minimal inittab?
[14:15] <seant> atmos4, The default level is set at 2 !! But upstart kicks off the jobs asynchronously, one of them being the rc's
[14:15] <rapha> lobozoo: "says on the can"? - well, nevermind. just execute the command i gave you again, please, and then show me the output you get on pastie.org.
[14:16] <atmos4> well I could set rc2 there, wouldn't matter
[14:16] <atmos4> the services are registered in rc2,3,5
[14:16] <seant> atmos4, you can create an inittab.  But it is not there by default as I understand it
[14:16] <root> startx
[14:16] <atmos4> yea, but it should start sysv style init scripts without me needing to do anything
[14:16] <Guest56388> hi people?
[14:17] <atmos4> which it wasn't until I created inittab file
[14:17] <atmos4> thus I ask myself what's wromng
[14:17] <rxd> ubuntu is ignoring aufs excellent  feature
[14:17] <atmos4> which upstart script handles calling the sysv scripts?
[14:17] <flames> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[14:17] <Guest56388> where can i get information about using linux?
[14:18] <seant> atmos4, I am not sure on why those commands never made it to the /etc/rc*.d.  Perhaps a re-install would have done it or a reconfigure
[14:18] <flames> complie from source
[14:18] <maxwellian> !manual | Guest56388
[14:18] <flames> can help me
[14:18] <atmos4> seant: they are in /etc/rc*.d/
[14:18] <flames> ./configure && make
[14:18] <seant> atmos4, /etc/init/rc.conf I think.  Not a 100% sure
[14:18] <atmos4> but upstart didn't call them
[14:18] <flames> make install
[14:18] <flames> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[14:18] <atmos4> ok will check that file
[14:18] <seant> atmos4, Are they in /etc/rc2.d?
[14:18] <cutiyar> maxwellian, yess
[14:18] <atmos4> seant: not wanting to repeat myself
[14:19] <seant> atmos4, That should have kicked it off then.
[14:19] <atmos4> I've plenty years of linux experience, so they are :-)
[14:19] <seant> atmos4, I dont doubt that.  BUt a lot are new to upstart
[14:19] <Guest56388> what should i do in order to get used to linux?
[14:19] <flambo> hey folks, having mail issues with alot of people complaining they're not able to send me mail (or the few other people using my server can't receive mail from some folks)
[14:19] <atmos4> yes, upstart is still new for me
[14:19] <maxwellian> cutiyar: What if you type 'sudo apt-get upgrade firefox'?
[14:19] <flambo> anyone able to help me debug it?
[14:19] <atmos4> but /etc/rc*.d/ has little to do with upstart
[14:20] <cutiyar> maxwellian ,I did it before , ok iwill do it again
[14:20] <Euphus> anybody else always has lags on youtube or flash?
[14:20] <seant> atmos4, once again: upstart kicks off the old rc style scripts.
[14:20] <flambo> the server is ubuntu 8.04
[14:20] <Guest56388> i need help from you friends; what is the advice you give to me?
[14:20] <rapha> Euphus: a friend complained of it after the upgrade to 10.04
[14:20] <atmos4> seant: yea I'm looking at the rc.conf script now
[14:20] <flambo> and it's configured using the ISPConfig  web based administration tool
[14:20] <flambo> there's about 15 domains running on the server.
[14:21] <maxwellian> !manual | Guest56388
[14:21] <Lantizia> Hey when you mkfs.ext2 or ext3... you can see the settings it's about to use... can you see those settings for an already formatted partition?
[14:21] <maxwellian> Guest56388: Start there.
[14:21] <atmos4> my guess is that for some reason it didn't get the $RUNLEVEL variable right
[14:21] <Euphus> rapha, : yee its fucked
[14:21] <Guest56388> thank you friends
[14:21] <BluesKaj> !linux | Guest56388
[14:22] <lobozoo> rapha:can you send the executable again? pls
[14:22] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Any luck?  I've gotta get off to bed in a minute, so I'd like to know what's going on.
[14:23] <cutiyar> maxwellian, its running
[14:23] <cutiyar> maxwelluan , will finish
[14:23] <rapha> lobozoo: aptitude update && aptitude install barry
[14:23] <maxwellian> cutiyar: What does that mean?  It's doing the upgrade?
[14:23] <cutiyar> sorr
[14:23] <chanti> i am using ubuntu10, gnome panel not responding many times properly, can anybody help please
[14:23] <cutiyar> maxwellain ,yes
[14:23] <cutiyar> maxwellian , please don't bother go to bed
[14:24] <cutiyar> maxwellian , I will ask again I f I got any errror
[14:24] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Oh, I know, I just wanted to see where we stood. :)
[14:24] <maxwellian> cutiyar: Glad it's doing something, hope it works out.  Good night, or morning, or whatever to you. :)
[14:25] <Euphus> anybody had problems with spotify? i have to run it through terminal.. i think its wine it can`t be runned from shortcut
[14:25] <rbanffy> Hi folks. After updating the kernel (about a month ago) my son's computer ceased to access wifi networks. It's a broadcom b43-ish device. It's not listed in lspci. Should I try harder to make Linux find it or should I go out and buy another mini-pci-express card?
[14:26] <Euphus> broadcom sux
[14:26] <rapha> lobozoo: afk for a bit, food. you can /query me with the answer if you want, ill look into it when i come back.
[14:27] <Euphus> anybody had problems with spotify? i have to run it through terminal.. i think its wine it can`t be runned from shortcut
[14:27] <lobozoo> rapha thanx dude
[14:28] <rbanffy> Euphus: I know. It came with the computer.  But sucky or not, it was working, then stopped. The question is whether I should buy another (non-broadcom) or do some trick to make it work.
[14:28] <Guest56388> friends, unfortunately i will be asking too many question, please do not get mad, it is bacause i am really addicted to lunix but i do not know anything about it
[14:29] <Euphus> it is not compartible enough, i would buy a new non-broadcom if i where you.. just buy a pin-card
[14:29] <Euphus> usb-plug
[14:29] <Guest56388> not even the basic commands commands
[14:29] <Euphus> and buy a netgear ;)
[14:30] <atmos4> I'd always choose internal wlan over an usb stick
[14:30] <Guest56388> i have tried many sited, looking for info but it is very hard to understand
[14:30] <atmos4> those small printed antennas suxk, and it gets int he way
[14:30] <Euphus> even N-stick?
[14:30] <Pirate_Hunter> Euphus, netgear hasn't let the people I know down and it picks up ISP settings all by itself so good suggestion
[14:31] <Euphus> ;)
[14:31] <atmos4> well just swap the internal card if it's not working correctly
[14:31] <abhi_nav> !ask | Guest56388
[14:31] <atmos4> but first I'd try getting it working, because there are driver available for b43
[14:32] <lobozoo> were do i paste thing agian?
[14:32] <Euphus> Pirate_Hunter, ; i went from linksys to netgear, and i dont regret
[14:32] <mfraz74> i would say try a realtec based card, but i've never had much luck with those
[14:33] <Pirate_Hunter> Euphus, hmmm linksys I thought they were good at least much better than netgear, am I wrong?
[14:33] <spiky_> Guest56388: have a read http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html
[14:33] <lobozoo> where can i paste something to show someone
[14:33] <abhi_nav> !paste | lobozoo
[14:33] <atmos4> I'd try the most recent drivers before heading out and swapping hardware
[14:33] <Euphus> Pirate_Hunter,  :  broke 3 in a half year :) but then the whole house fucked with them. the netgear are still running :)
[14:33] <lobozoo> tanx
[14:34] <Euphus> is
[14:34] <ubuntu> hey there how can I have grub installed on a partition which is independant from OSs?
[14:34] <rbanffy> Hi folks. After updating the kernel (about a month ago) my son's computer ceased to access wifi networks. It's a broadcom b43-ish device. It's not listed in lspci. Should I try harder to make Linux find it or should I go out and buy another mini-pci-express card?
[14:34] <MikeChelen> is it possible to connect with an HP printer over bluetooth? the bluetooth wizard sees the device but can't set it up, and i'm not sure how to add it through HPLIP
[14:34] <Pirate_Hunter> for whoever was asking about spotify it is working fine here with wine and streaming well
[14:34] <foolguy> Hi, how do I get xchat to stop automatically connecting to this channel?
[14:34] <rez> Anyone know the terminal code to install java the newest one?
[14:35] <abhi_nav> foolano, set your preferences in xchat=>network list
[14:35] <TomD> I'm looking for a new desktop that is pre-built to run Ubuntu.  I have purchased several from Dell in the past.  Are there any that support Ubuntu better than others?  I would like to avoid the Microsoft tax if possible
[14:35] <Euphus> Pirate_Hunter, : yes, it did 4 a while here too.. lol
[14:35] <foolguy> abhi_nav: thanks
[14:35] <abhi_nav> foolano, hmm
[14:35] <Euphus> Pirate_Hunter, : have to run it from terminal now.. :(
[14:35] <Pirate_Hunter> Euphus, eeeerh ok I've never used that brand but will stay away from it, and yeah netgear has been up and running here as well even knowing it never gets turned off oh and watch the language :)
[14:35] <peleg> my left alt key stopped working, suddenly. How can I verify whether it is hardware issue or software issue? It is not working "every now and then" -- it just stopped, completely, and it is not better after a restart
[14:36] <rbanffy> rez: do an apt-cache search sun-java
[14:36] <rbanffy> rez: or java-sun
[14:36] <Euphus> Pirate_Hunter,  sure :)
[14:37] <Guest56388> maxwellian; my lunix operating system is backtrack 4, where do i find useful information on it.
[14:37] <Guest56388> the commands and information on how to handle all backtrack applications?
[14:38] <Pirate_Hunter> peleg, the easiest method is to try another keyboard or use that keyboard on another machine
[14:38] <oCean_> !backtrack | Guest56388
[14:38] <Pirate_Hunter> oCean_, what is backtrack?
[14:38] <oCean_> Pirate_Hunter: ubuntu derivative
[14:38] <Pirate_Hunter> its like the third person i've heard mentioning backtrack
[14:39] <peleg> Pirate_Hunter, oh, sorry but I didn't mention I am using a laptop; I don't have here a usb keyboard to connect it to it. Maybe I should get one then... any other method in the meanwhile?
[14:39] <IStorm> oCean_ : A light derivitive?
[14:40] <Pirate_Hunter> peleg, other than sudo dpkg-reconfigure console (I think that is the command) however if it is the keyboard which I doubt that wont help
[14:40] <Knew> Can I install Ubuntu in a chroot?
[14:40] <Knew> On CentOS
[14:40] <rbanffy> Anyone experienced with Broadcom wifi problems? I have a b43-ish mini-pci-express thingie acting up.
[14:40] <Pirate_Hunter> Knew ask in CentOS
[14:41] <Sereph> I set my hostname with sudo hostname... on reboot it is changing.... ubuntu 10.04 can anyone tell me why
[14:42] <martman> when i goto system->administration->printing i cannot add a new printer(grayed out) or connect to a cups sever
[14:42] <oCean_> Sereph: try /etc/hostname
[14:42] <martman> how can i fix this?
[14:42] <peleg> Pirate_Hunter, I don't have a package named "console".
[14:43] <Pirate_Hunter> peleg, let me check the actual command
[14:43] <abhi_nav> hi vishnu installed ubuntu?
[14:43] <peleg> Pirate_Hunter, thanks!
[14:43] <Pirate_Hunter> peleg, sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[14:44] <vishnu> abhi_nav, note yet dude,is it safe to transfer files from "virtual ubuntu" to real ubuntu using LUBI OR LVPM
[14:44] <Bragex9> I am trying to share folders with samba, but I am only getting an error message saying: net usershare" returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. 01:21. NT_STATUS_INSUFFICIENT_RESOURCES How can I fix it?
[14:44] <abhi_nav> what is lubi and lvpm vishnu ?
[14:44] <abhi_nav> vishnu, btw there is no risk in it. linux dont have viruses like win.
[14:45] <bilg_z> hi all!!!
[14:45] <vishnu> abhi_nav, no no... i m talking abot authenticity of lubi.. its used to transfer files from one partioion to another buddy... i jus want to know if its authentic.. thatis, i shouldnt encounter any problem durinf transfering .. thats it
[14:46] <Sereph> oCean_: nope
[14:46] <bilg_z> are there open source softwares to find passwords some formats (like rar doc zip 7z and others) ?
[14:46] <abhi_nav> vishnu, I really never heard about lubi.
[14:46] <IdleOne> vishnu: where did you read about lubi?
[14:47] <vishnu> abhi_nav, yeah i know that it doesnt hav viruses.. thats y i shifted linux.... :) ok...no probs buddy... thanks 4 getting invloved...
[14:47] <Sereph> oCean_: wait no that actually worked
[14:47] <ross_> how do you synchronize a desktop and a laptop
[14:47] <oCean_> Sereph: it should :)
[14:47] <abhi_nav> vishnu, ok
[14:47] <Sereph> oCean_: isn't that what hostname is supposed to do......
[14:47] <ross_> files and such
[14:47] <abhi_nav> IdleOne, what is lubi? do you know? I never heard of it
[14:47] <IdleOne> abhi_nav: I don't
[14:47] <bastidrazor> !hostname | Sereph
[14:47] <oCean_> Sereph: only temporary.
[14:48] <vishnu> IdleOne, i jus googled it up... that moment i found a post as how to transfer files between partitions ... thats how, it came about here
[14:48] <Sereph> interesting.......
[14:48] <peleg> Pirate_Hunter, I see nothing new.  I'm restarting.
[14:49] <IdleOne> abhi_nav: it is http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Flubi.sourceforge.net%2Flvpm.html&ei=XpEwTMurBIOclgfShOD2Cw&usg=AFQjCNGjBzhePFbPPu7YkGVE4lSI_Mbh_g
[14:49] <IdleOne> oops sorry about the long link
[14:49] <Pirate_Hunter> peleg, probably but the way to find the answer is to figure out why it stoped working, did you swap your keyboard settings or maybe another application is using it?
[14:49] <bilg_z> are there open source softwares to find passwords some formats (like rar doc zip 7z and others) ?
[14:49] <abhi_nav> IdleOne, thanks. :)
[14:50] <iceroot> bilg_z: any bruteforce-tool
[14:50] <kamil_sk> hi guys,
[14:50] <kamil_sk> does anybody now how to fix the problem with usbfs entry in /etc/fstab ? "usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=14,devmode=0660 0 0"
[14:50] <kamil_sk> I need this entry for my old printer to work, but I discovered that ubuntu 10.04 kernel doesn't support usbfs anymore.. Can somebody
[14:50] <kamil_sk> help me please?
[14:50] <FloodBot1> kamil_sk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:51] <bilg_z>  iceroot:  http://www.softpedia.com/get/Security/Password-Managers-Generators/MD5-Brute-Force-Tool.shtml
[14:52] <bilg_z> iceroot:this porgram is for windows :(
[14:52] <iceroot> bilg_z: apt-cache search bruteforce
[14:53] <iceroot> bilg_z: and think about the time bruteforce may need
[14:54] <volve> hey all, I'm trying to setup a samba share so that Bob and Jane can both read and write but can't delete/change each others files. My tests seem to let them both create files with -rw-r--r-- Bob:Bob & -rw-r--r-- Jane:Jane, but for some reason Jane can still delete Bob's files! :(
[14:55] <cheddar> Hi anyone know how to add the proprietary wifi driver to a laptop that has no network connectivity (except for the wifi)?
[14:55] <cheddar> I have internet on a different machine and usb sticks
[14:56] <aeon-ltd> cheddar: yeah find a ndiswrapper guide follow it take neccessary files from other pcs
[14:56] <christiam> hi
[14:56] <aeon-ltd> !hi | christiam
[14:58] <christiam> un gusto estar aquí
[14:58] <christiam> aeron???
[15:00] <aeon-ltd> !es | christiam
[15:00] <christiam> thanks ubottu
[15:00] <IdleOne> christiam: are you a bot?
[15:00] <ubuntu> hey there how can I have grub installed on a partition which is independant from OSs?
[15:00] <Benwa> christiam→ are you a bot?
[15:00] <Benwa> haha
[15:00] <aeon-ltd> ubuntu: by having a /boot partition
[15:01] <ubuntu> aeon-ltd: you mean I must create a partition which its mount point is /boot yeah?
[15:02] <RPS> Hello Guys, I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 and I have lost my sound (yet again.) I've had this issue before, but it happened so long ago I honestly can't remember where to start. I'll gladly open my terminal and absorb any help that you guys might be able to offer.
[15:02] <RPS> I only get a crackling sound from my speakers
[15:02] <aeon-ltd> ubuntu: yeah a separate partition that basically contains all of grub
[15:03] <aeon-ltd> RPS: are you using alsa?
[15:03] <ubuntu> aeon-ltd: then can I have other OS s with it for example after installiing ubuntu and ofcourse grub seperated from the /
[15:03] <RPS> Yes I believe that is what I've been using
[15:04] <aeon-ltd> ubuntu: what you want is a / /home /boot setup and then obviously another / or ntfs for your other os
[15:04] <Guest56388> where can i learn the basics of security, i mean, books, videos etc?
[15:05] <RPS> cat /proc/asound/cards .....brought back HDA-Intel
[15:05] <aeon-ltd> Guest56388: wikis read about iptables
[15:05] <aeon-ltd> RPS: go into a terminal type alsamixer
[15:05] <ubuntu> aeon-ltd: I am worry about when I install Windows SEVEN all the grub settings disappears and just seven load itself
[15:06] <RPS> the master is turned all the way up
[15:06] <ubuntu> aeon-ltd: I want something that is independant from OS
[15:06] <ubuntu> aeon-ltd: can I have this by installing grub in another partition as u said?
[15:07] <zcat[1]> ubuntu, only thing you can do is reinstall bootloader.. all versions of Windows have ALWAYS trashed other bootloaders on install...
[15:07] <aeon-ltd> ubuntu: from experience its easier to have 7 first then ubuntu on top, however you can use something like supergribdisk to restore grub after windows is in
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  a system with 2 hard drives. makes that a little easier. It is worth learning how to restore grub however.
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> Grub is such an imporntant 'tool' that its definatly worth spending some time reading up on
[15:07] <zcat[1]> you can very easily reinstall grub from the ubuntu cd, see !grub
[15:07] <RPS> aeon-ltd: the master is turned all the way up. It shows HAD Intel as the card
[15:08] <sudipta> hey i am using 9.01.should i upgrade to 10.04 .?i have nvidia
[15:08] <Dimitri__> What is up with ubuntu's wordpress not upgrading to 3.0?
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> sudipta:  flip a coin.. :)  do you want updated stuff?
[15:08] <Dimitri__> How can I trick it (at my own risk) into doing so
[15:08] <zcat[1]> Dimitri__, probably find a ppa?
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> Dimitri__:  clarify what you just said.
[15:09] <Dimitri__> Dr_Willis: wordpress is on version 3.0. all the other wordpresses i've used recently have been automatically upgraded through the wordpress software.
[15:09] <ubuntu> zcat[1]: you mean after installing SEVEN that all things gone failed about the grub I can Use the ubuntu LIVE CD and
[15:09] <Dimitri__> Dr_Willis, it would appear ubuntu disabled this feature of wordpress
[15:09] <Guest56388> where can i learn the basics of security, the programs + their guides, ebooks, if possible with tutorials, for free?
[15:09] <zcat[1]> !grub
yeah but will i create any pproblem during booting
[15:09] <edbian> sudipta, The best answer you can get to that question is to boot the 10.04 live CD and see how you like it.
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> Dimitri__:  never heard of 'wordpress'
[15:09] <RPS> aeon-ltd: is this the line I should use? sudo aptitude --purge reinstall linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils linux-image-`uname -r` linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r` libasound2
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> !info wordpress
[15:09] <zcat[1]> ubuntu, that link ubottu just gave..
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> Dimitri__:  if you want the latest version .You may need to find a PPA repository for it.
[15:10] <ubuntu> zcat[1]: thanx bro ;)
[15:10] <Dr_Willis> sudipta:  will what cause any problems?
[15:10] <zcat[1]> Dimitri__, or you can just download wordpress yourself and extract it into /var/www/
[15:10] <Dimitri__> yeah, that's what I was in the midst of
[15:10] <aeon-ltd> RPS: don't bother, in alsamixer are any the outputs showing mm?
[15:10] <IdleOne> abhinav: the same guidelines apply  in all Ubuntu irc channels. Please be patient.
i have indeed liked it i have heard that it might impose problem on booting
[15:10] <Knew> I need to be devoiced.
[15:11] <zcat[1]> Dimitri__, ppa might be better wince it will get updated with your system automatically (as long as the ppa maintainer keeps it updated)
[15:11] <RPS> aeon-ltd: No, I don;t see anything labeled as mm
[15:11]  * Knew !
[15:11] <aeon-ltd> RPS: all bars are maxed out?
[15:11] <Guest56388> where can i get materials on basics of security?
[15:11] <edbian> sudipta, I would be surprised if it had problems booting.  I say, go for it!  I'm not promising that you won't have problems but com'on you're not installing windows here.  What's the worst that could happen? :)
[15:11] <RPS> only the master is maxed out
i dont know yesterday i found that in xchat
[15:11] <edbian> sudipta, Just do a back up before you start and rest easy.
[15:11] <aeon-ltd> RPS: max out all of them
[15:12] <delfis> hello, which to choose 32bit or 64bit?
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> Guest56388:  theres numerous web sites with security tutorial and even a lot of e-books out there.  Security is a BIG topic. so you may need to look around for info that you are wanting to learn about
[15:12] <ikonia> delfis: up to you
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> sudipta:  i dont know what you are talking about.
ok thanks
[15:12] <delfis> but how to choose
[15:12] <delfis> :?
[15:12] <ikonia> delfis: high level rule is 4GB ram or more = 64bit
[15:12] <delfis> what are criterias?
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> delfis:  I see no reason to not use 64bit these days.
[15:12] <delfis> i have 4gb
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> delfis:  id say go with 64bit then
[15:12] <Andy-at-home> guys, i keep getting disconnected from ssh, i tried changing the ssh config but it didnt help, is it a different config?
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> Andy-at-home:  the server has a config also.
[15:13] <Andy-at-home> ah, where can i find that?
[15:13] <ikonia> Andy-at-home: probably your isp's network kicking you off, disable the time out on the client/server configs, and enable tcp-keepalives
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> Andy-at-home:  /etc/ssh/
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> !ssh | Andy-at-home
[15:13] <zcat[1]> Guest43521, basically only install stuff from package management, don't run as root.. if you're not doing server type things there's nothing to worry about, ubuntu is far more secure than the other two popular oses
[15:13] <delfis> 64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage
[15:13] <delfis> the official webpage wrotes
[15:13] <edbian> delfis, If you have more than 3Gb of ram and you install a 32 bit operating system you will not be able to use all of the ram.  However in order to run a 64 bit OS you also need to have a 64 bit processor and motherboard.
[15:13] <RPS> aeon-ltd: I can;t see a way to turn up the others ...PCM, IEC958
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> delfis:  thats old information for the most part.
[15:13] <aeon-ltd> RPS: up on the arrow keys
[15:13] <delfis> ok thanks
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> delfis:  you decide..  we have given our suggestions
[15:14] <Guest56388> DR_Willis: can you prompt me some websites?
[15:14]  * Dr_Willis wonderws when that official ubuntu web page will get updated/clarified
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> Guest56388:  it depends on the specifics you zre interested in. just 'security' is very vague.
[15:14] <zcat[1]> delfis, really no reason not to use 64bit nowdays, except perhaps a very few non-free drivers that don't play nice
[15:15] <aeon-ltd> RPS: what are you usng to test sound?
[15:15] <RPS> aeon-ltd: Well.... that was the single MOST simplest linux fix I have ever been involved with. LOL
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> Guest56388:  hitting delicious.com for and looking what others have tagged as 'security' 'tutorial' and so forth will find good info
[15:15] <aeon-ltd> RPS: your welcome :)
[15:16] <RPS> aeon-ltd: You can;t take my Thank You away. ;) Thanks
[15:16] <zcat[1]> Guest43521, perhaps try http://www.schneier.com/
[15:16] <Dr_Willis> Guest56388:  http://delicious.com/search?p=network+security+tutorial&chk=&context=recent||security&fr=del_icio_us&lc=
[15:16] <aeon-ltd> RPS: np
[15:17] <Guest56388> Dr Willis: i basically want to learn about tcp/ip and remote hacking
[15:17] <RPS> aeon-ltd: I wonder what makes the second meter (PCM) go to all zeros
[15:17] <zcat[1]> lol
[15:17] <oCean_> Guest56388: there's no support for that in this channel
[15:17] <BluesKaj> Andy-at-home, sometimes it helps ssh to have all the IP addresses of the devices you are conecting to the network in /etc/hosts.allow , like this : http://www.pastebin.ca/1894382
[15:18] <sudipta> i am using wvdial to get connected to net through my cell.whenever connection ends i have to restart to create a another connection.can it be done without restar?t
[15:18] <Andy-at-home> thanks
[15:18] <Guest56388> ok
[15:18] <zcat[1]> Guest43521, http://www.megapanzer.com/ might be a good place to start
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> Guest56388:  theres whole books and  ebooks written on tcp/ip - some are free.
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> http://www.tcpipguide.com/free/t_toc.htm
[15:20] <fluppi> server irc.ber.de.euirc.net
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> Guest56388:  that site will keep you busy for a few hrs.
[15:20] <ZeroOne> Hello
[15:20] <ZeroOne> I
[15:21] <DAG-LIFE> Уважаемые Американцы! Хочу добавить Вам осталось не долго!
[15:21] <ZeroOne> d'oh..
[15:21] <ZeroOne> I've got some problems installing/running the Netbook Edition
[15:21] <oCean_> !ru | DAG-LIFE
[15:21] <Dimitri__> thanks ubuntuers for the help
[15:21] <ZeroOne> I've installed the image into an SD card and can get to the boot menu