[00:57] <_marx_> new compiz; loading flounder up to try to induce a lockup
[00:58] <_marx_> only channel owner can op
[00:58] <_marx_> or give op status
[00:59] <_marx_> okay the command works
[00:59] <holstein> hey _marx_ :)
[00:59] <_marx_> dude
[00:59] <holstein> sorry you're having such a rough time of it
[00:59] <holstein> we'll be here though whenever you get things more stable :)
[00:59] <_marx_> slowly sinking
[01:00] <_marx_> just sent email to the team list
[01:00] <holstein> yeah... i just read it
[01:01] <_marx_> work in hickory next week gotta find something that doesn't require so much driving
[01:02] <_marx_> after a 0 hr week and a 12 hr week I'll take it
[01:03] <_marx_> holstein: you want the channel?
[01:03] <holstein> sure, im usually around
[01:03] <holstein> and i manage another channel
[01:04] <_marx_> okay, let me look at my logs to find out how to change that
[01:04] <_marx_> gotta storm coming through and i need to go be nice to su
[01:04] <_marx_> spousal unit
[01:04] <holstein> sure
[01:06] <_marx_> damn tired of looking at ribeyes and buying canned tuna
[01:06] <_marx_> bl
[01:31] <BugeyeD> 2nd gargantuan storm of the day. loud and obnoxious. i love it - wish i could be camping right now ...
[02:08] <_marx_> nice rain keeping the garden wet
[02:09] <_marx_> hum betty ford has died; the fords have a house just down the road from me
[02:16] <_marx_> one of the sons anyway
[02:27] <_marx_> wow, $5k bid email reply, can you come by tomorrow?...
[02:29] <BugeyeD> _marx_: do it. i'd take $5k over coffee any day.
[02:29] <_marx_> nah, scheduled for later
[02:30] <_marx_> don't know how i'd cover the materials though
[02:30] <BugeyeD> gi irritant at 0900?
[02:30] <BugeyeD> isn't that called "advance" ?
[02:30] <_marx_> home row
[02:30] <_marx_> half up front is tough
[02:31] <_marx_> i usually do 1/3
[02:31] <_marx_> but
[02:36] <_marx_> i want it; lots more work on that house
[02:37] <_marx_> easily triple for everything that needs to be done
[02:37] <_marx_> drink some coffee and go sell
[02:38] <_marx_> not my forte as it often includes lies


[18:40] <teward> sec team, assuming you would know more about the answer(s) here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1377027/security-oval-files-seem-to-give-false-positives
[18:40] <teward> RE the OVAL files for sec vulns
[18:46] <TJ-> looks more like the USN just doesn't list the affected binaries correctly; the linked names are to source packages so there is a disjoint between binary and source
[18:49] <teward> *lets TJ or others write an answer*
[22:56] <amurray> teward: source packages can produce multiple binary packages so when we publish USNs we hand-whittle down the list of binary packages which we mention in the USN to those which we believe to be actually affected (ie in this case since the vuln is in the mysql server we only mention this binary package in the USN, not the client libs)
[22:58] <amurray> but for completeness, the OVAL contains all binary packages which come from the source package - since some customers are quite cautious about this sort of thing and so we then err on the side of caution for this
[22:59] <amurray> as such the OVAL can give potential false positives but since the 'whittling down' which I mentioned above is best-effort, to be completely sure, it is better to install all update to all the binary packages from a given USN rather than mixing and matching (also this then helps avoid issues like having client libs of one version being incompatible with the server of another)
[23:01] <amurray> oh I see sarnold just responded on the original askubuntu question - thanks :)
[23:01] <sarnold> :D
[23:01] <sarnold> it's reassuring to see many of the same points in your answer, hehe
[23:01] <amurray> yup - phew :)
[23:02] <sarnold> it's funny, I started the answer iwth "Hello Phil, we try to trim.." and something in their system stripped off the greeting but didn't fix up my capitalization for me, so it looked like I posted "we try to trim...". Not a fan. It also kept my 'Thanks' at the end, which feels odd to strip a greeting but keep the parting..
[23:03] <sarnold> at least the edit done quickly enough didn't mar the post with an "(edited)" thing for eternity. I'm not a fan of that :)


[15:21] <ducasse> ricebean: then i would think either the ram is bad or you have another serious hardware problem.
[15:21] <OerHeks> ricebean, check each memory strip one-by-one to be sure
[15:22] <OerHeks> * with memtest86
[15:22] <ricebean> And how would I do that?
[15:22] <OerHeks> that would be the logical step when you find one error, but no clue what ram position
[15:23] <OerHeks> how? pull the powerplug, hold power button 10 seconds, open case, remove ram
[15:24] <ricebean> I only have one stick of RAM, if that's what you're asking.
[15:24] <designbybeck_> Was trying to install some software on Ubuntu 16.04 64bit... and the software said it needs:  ia32-libs-gtk
[15:24] <atralheaven_> I want to ask for a simple feature in ubuntu, that I need it has to have, where should I ask for it?
[15:24] <designbybeck_> but I'm not finding that to install on 16.04
[15:24] <OerHeks> ricebean, then you know what to do, replace it.
[15:24] <ricebean> Can you do the same thing with RAM - reallocate the bad sectors - as you can do on an HDD?
[15:25] <joelio> if it's ECC ram, but it won't be in a laptop (generally)
[15:25] <ricebean> It's a nettop, an Asus EEEBox EB-1007.
[15:25] <designbybeck_> can  ia32-libs-gtk be install on 16.04 64bit?
[15:25] <joelio> ricebean: no, it wont' be only really in servers
[15:26] <smiler_> smiler
[15:26] <OerHeks> never heard of reallocating bad ram 'sectors'
[15:26] <OerHeks> must be a marketing thing :-D
[15:26] <ducasse> atralheaven_: what feature?
[15:26] <joelio> OerHeks: yea, semantics :)
[15:27] <OerHeks> hot plugable too ?
[15:27] <atralheaven_> ducasse: being able to set a default language for login screen, so I won't type my password in wrong language anymore
[15:27] <mike_ser1> Hi, I got a fresh install of Ubuntu Desktop 14.04.5 LTS (4.2.0-27-generic #32~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 22 15:32:26 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux) when running 'sudo apt-get build-dep qt5-default' I get an unmet dependency error. Does anyone know why could this be and how to solve it? I didn't find any useful information online
[15:28] <ducasse> atralheaven_: that should follow the locale settings of the system, i would imagine.
[15:28] <joelio> mike_ser1: pastebin the error (assuming qt5 build dependencies can be got in 14.04)
[15:29] <mike_ser1> I have done this before without problems on another machine. Actually did this yesterday on a Ubuntu Server fresh installation
[15:29] <joelio> seems to be from a quick checl
[15:29] <joelio> ok, so 1st thing did you do an apt-get update
[15:29] <joelio> before getting buildeps
[15:30] <mike_ser1> @joelio: http://pastebin.com/cBSgjxZv
[15:30] <ducasse> atralheaven_: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration'
[15:31] <mike_ser1> @joelio: I did an apt-get update and even upgrade when I got the error, but didn't help
[15:31] <atralheaven_> ducasse: it doesn't have this option, I mean for login screen, the password input place, being able to set english, or another language as default. so even when my screen is locked when I was on the other language, it would be on english on login screen. its not a problem, its a feature im asking the developers to put in ubuntu
[15:32] <joelio> mike_ser1: do an apt-cache policy libopenvg1-mesa - and pastebin that too
[15:34] <mike_ser1> joelio: apt-cache policy libopenvg1-mesa -> http://pastebin.com/jywE3iBz
[15:35] <ducasse> atralheaven_: the lock screen will use the default system keyboard layout by default, but if you have switched to another layout it will of course use that. you can file a report on launchpad, but...
[15:38] <atralheaven_> ducasse: imagine I locked my screen when I was typing in fr, now if I enter my password, it wont be in en, it would be in fr, and thats annoying. so if there was an option to set the default language for lock screen, that wouldn't happen. do you know what I mean?
[15:38] <OerHeks> when you type in french, why would that bug you ?
[15:39] <alex___> hmm, my tablet has a ufi partition with microsoft folder in it, i was able to do some tricks to mount it in windows, maybe thats why it wont boot to any usb. and also my bios has no uefi settings, so thats not changable, im using a intel atom tablet trying to get ubuntu on it, but like i said it always goes to windows anythime i use a bootable usb.
[15:39] <ducasse> atralheaven_: yes, sort of, i just don't think it makes any sense. i would expect it to use whatever layout i had specified. there is also a menu for selecting layout if i'm not mistaken.
[15:40] <joelio> mike_ser1: *looks* ok - let me try it on a VM
[15:40] <mike_ser1> joelio: I installed it and it had to also get many xserver packages, I wonder if the installation was incomplete
[15:41] <joelio> possibly, should work ok that afaict
[15:42] <ubuntu-mate> привет
[15:42] <ducasse> !ru | ubuntu-mate
[15:42] <mike_ser1> joelio: thanks for your help. actually this is a step on a script that I have run before on a number of fresh installation. It must be have been an issue with this particular machine
[15:43] <joelio> ok, np
[15:46] <atralheaven_> ducasse: now, when I want to enter the password in lock screen, the input language is whatever it was before locking, ok? what I want, it to be able to set the default input language for lock screen password input, so I wont type my password in wrong language, that happens alot for users who use more that one language
[15:48] <OerHeks> i think you hit bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1286910
[15:50] <killall> in ubuntu by default does ti use alsa or pulse?
[15:54] <ronaldsmazitis> hello, if 16.04.01 is released then when Ubuntu will start pushing upgrade
[15:55] <ronaldsmazitis> summer is already gone by 2 halfs
[15:55] <DJones> ronaldsmazitis: It should be now, I think the updates were released at the end of last week
[15:55] <ducasse> killall: both, pulse sits on top of alsa.
[15:55] <atralheaven_> ubottu: thanks!
[16:10] <Lucky7> hello all, can any1 share a howto on LDAP SAMBA integration?
[16:22] <marving> greet
[16:36] <CuriousErnestBro> hello
[16:37] <CuriousErnestBro> what are your favorite aesthetic themes?
[16:38] <guzzlefry> How do I generate the xorg.conf file for this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/418398/tear-free-disabled-in-intel-graphics-tearing-in-xubuntu
[16:38] <guzzlefry> Or do I just add that one bit of text in an empty xorg.conf file?
[16:38] <ducasse> guzzlefry: you don't generate it, you simply write it.
[16:39] <guzzlefry> There has to be a way to generate it...
[16:39] <guzzlefry> Or just enable that one option somehow. :P
[16:40] <ducasse> guzzlefry: just add an xorg.conf snippet with the options you want, like the answer suggests.
[16:40] <guzzlefry> okay, I'll try that. Thanks.
[16:41] <ducasse> guzzlefry: sna should be on by default now, but you might also want to enable dri3 if your gpu supports it.
[16:42] <transhuman_> hi! I am wondering if there is a fix for the combination headphones and microphones, in order to get the microphone working?
[16:42] <transhuman_> bought it hat fivebelow
[16:42] <transhuman_> s/hat/at
[16:46] <asd_> hey guys, what's the best IRC app for ubuntu??
[16:47] <DJones> asd_: Best is what suits you, most recommended seem to be hexchat with a gui interface (similar to MIRC etc) or from a command line - irssi
[16:48] <Deruyter> Hexchat has been good so far - GUI based
[16:49] <skinux> Is there a way to get Terminal to recognize Ctrl+V as paste command?
[16:49] <OnkelTem> Hi all. Is sgfxi still the best/quickest way to get latest video drivers for nVidia cards on Ubuntu 14.04?
[16:49] <OnkelTem> I'm gonna replace an old card with a new one
[16:50] <DJones> asd_: xchat used to be recommended, but thats no longer in active development and has pretty much been replaced by hexchat
[16:52] <ducasse> skinux: ctrl+v is used by bash, so that would be a bad idea
[16:52] <skinux> Ahh okay
[16:52] <skinux> How about shift+ctrl+v?
[16:53] <dax> isn't that default?
[16:53] <ducasse> skinux: that's what is normally used by terminal emulators, or shift+insert for the selection buffer
[16:53] <SchrodingersScat> thought it was using 'Insert'
[16:53] <skinux> Oh..didn't iknow
[16:53] <skinux> know*
[16:53] <SchrodingersScat> shift-insert
[16:55] <asd_> DJones, Thanks.
[16:59] <JustinA> \
[17:05] <hgdhh> Hey guys, is it alright to ask linux general questions here? I got banned from #linux for asking something.
[17:06] <spyhermit> hgdhh, this is about ubuntu, you can try #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:06] <spyhermit> maybe it's an _
[17:07] <hgdhh> It's kinda related to ubuntu. I wanted to install ubuntu on a pen and run it as a live-usb, using only RAM. The issue is I'm currently running SLAX, and have no idea how to do that.
[17:08]  * dax looks at hgdhh and hggdh and blinks
[17:08] <mike_papa> Hello. I'm looking for M.2 to PCIe x4 adapter that works with Ubuntu 16.04, and Windows 10. By work, I mean really work, so I want to be able to install and boot those systems from M.2 drive connected. Any advice?
[17:08] <hggdh> dax: nope :-)
[17:09] <hgdhh> wtf
[17:09] <hggdh> hgdhh: you can use unetbootin (for example) to create the pen-drive.
[17:10] <mike_papa> hgdhh: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu ?
[17:11] <hgdhh> Yeah, that's where the more general question comes from, since I only had linux for a day I have no idea how to even install a program here.
[17:13] <squinty> hgdhh, tutorials -> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[17:13] <dev1> hello
[17:18] <hgdhh> UNfortunatly I already tried the tutorials. They only have help for ubuntu, whcih i'm not running
[17:18] <mike_papa> hgdhh: Well... to create live-USB you just need to burn iso image to it. Nothing else. To install program - it depends on which linux. In Ubuntu either "Ubuntu Software" (GUI) or "apt" (apt-get, or aptitude - CLI tools) are for that.
[17:18] <mike_papa> hgdhh: Why are you asking in Ubuntu channel then?
[17:19] <hgdhh> Yeah ubuntu seems very documented. I'm on SLAX and there's no help or guides whatsoever. So I'm really lost here... I already tried the guides but they don't work in this distro.
[17:20] <mike_papa> hgdhh: Why did you choose slax? It's not really begginer-friendly.
[17:21] <orion7> what is [pdflush] for when i do ps ax
[17:21] <hgdhh> Because it's 100Mb. My HDD died yesterday and I had to install something.
[17:21] <orion7> what is [pdflush] ?
[17:21] <katronix> Hi all, having kind of an odd issue. Not sure where to look. Trying to use Google's "Hangouts Online" service, the other party can see me, but can't hear me even though the microphone is set correctly. The same microphone works just fine in Skype so I know its not a microphone issue. Any suggestions? (using Google Chrome to connect to it)
[17:22] <orion7> sometimes its running sometimes it not
[17:22] <mike_papa> orion7: http://www.makelinux.net/books/lkd2/ch15lev1sec4
[17:23] <orion7> mike_papa, thanks
[17:26] <Deruyter> Couldn't hgdhh just dd his ubuntu .iso file to a new USB stick if he's having issues with 3rd party programs to do it?
[17:27] <id10t> 'lo all. anyone runnign their own mirror? i'm having issues on mine with the translation files for xenial, they are 404'ing...
[17:27] <katronix> or anyone know if Google offers IRC chat support?
[17:28] <bobb_> katronix: officially, no.
[17:28] <katronix> bobb_: yeah I didn't think so
[17:29] <bobb_> katronix: if you want to contact Google support, I think you can better just find a different service provider :)
[17:30] <Pici> katronix: #google exists, but its unofficial
[17:30] <bobb_> I tried the LiveCD and am still upgrading my system. I hit around 4 release critical bugs thusfar.
[17:30] <bobb_> E.g. fixing an instal-info problem with gcc-doc  was the last issue.
[17:30] <bobb_> Why do you release this?
[17:31] <bobb_> It's crapware.
[17:31] <katronix> Pici: thanks!
[17:32] <bobb_> I suppose everyone who upgraded who didn't have any issues doesn't actually *use* their systems.
[17:32] <bobb_> Sure, if you are running just apache2 on a server, it will probably works.
[17:32] <bobb_> work*
[17:42] <kangiev> Ehoo
[17:44] <kangiev> Can u tell me where can get about mail serve i have windows 08 serv ant centos for ruter but cant open lokali the mail with domain
[17:44] <katronix> what sound engine does Ubuntu 16.04 use?
[17:47] <Covener> I've got a system with LUKS and LVM where /dev/mapper shows that dm-0 uses the UUID instead of the e.g. sda5_crypt name. This causes a problem for initrd creation, but I know nothing about LVM setup -- this was just setup implicitly on a single-disk laptop.  Anyone know I can influence the name used in /dev/mapper?
[17:47] <shadows_> hello i have problem withy my ubuntu server
[17:48] <shadows_> it's on rescue mode and  i would want to mount raid drive but i have no idea how
[17:49] <katronix> Someone suggested that I disable linein, how would I do that in 16.04?
[17:49] <katronix> (using Plasma)
[17:53] <katronix> or would there be a better channel to ask in?
[17:54] <hackingnerd> I could not login after changing my user name. i have followed this post http://askubuntu.com/questions/558669/renaming-user-name for changing user name. Now When I enter password, no error, system again ask for passwrod
[17:54] <etxzay> Hi! I was trying to upgrade Ubuntu desktop from 14.04 to 16.04, but got "Could not calculate the upgrade. An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade ".
[17:54] <etxzay> "grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log" gives me about 670 rows. I don't understand what package  is the source of the my problems, it looks like dependency hell. I need some kind of methodology how can I resolve this.
[17:54] <etxzay> Appreciate any help.
[17:58] <ducasse> etxzay: any ppas?
[17:59] <hackingnerd> according to my system logs: systemd-logind: got pause for 13:76 Fatal server error, cannot open log file "home/xxxx/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.pid-3676.log" , Please consult the The X.org Foundation support, #011 at http://wiki.x.org, unable to run X server, gdm3: GdmDisplay: display lasted 0.56929 seconds
[17:59] <hackingnerd> Please help me, I am not able to login in my system
[18:01] <EriC^^> hackingnerd: what happens?
[18:01] <etxzay> ducasse: I was trying without third party ppas, it does not helps. And installation wizard turning them off anyway.
[18:02] <katronix> anyone know how to disable linein under kubuntu 16.04?
[18:03] <_adb> hackingnerd: check that /home/xxxx/.local/share/xorg directory exists and that your user can write to it. also, it seems odd to me that the path cited in the error message does not begin with  a leading /
[18:05] <hackingnerd> _adb: yes i missed / when typing...
[18:06] <_adb> ensure the user you're logging in as has permission to write to that directory. it might be sensible to chown -R xxxx /home/xxxx. if you created the home directory, for example, as the root user, and never chown'd it back, that can cause problems
[18:07] <Codfection> how to install gvim on ubuntu
[18:07] <Codfection> apt get install gvim doesnt work
[18:07] <geirha> apt-get install vim-gnome
[18:07] <hackingnerd> _adb: /home/xxxx/.local directory is not exist at my system,,, Another thing I am using builtin encryption for my home folder
[18:08] <jose__> hola
[18:08] <Codfection> geirha, but I am not using gnome interface
[18:08] <geirha> Codfection: there are multiple packages that provide graphical vim, vim-gnome is only one of them
[18:09] <_adb> hackingnerd: i'm not sure if it'll help, and i don't know how encryption will change things, but i suggest trying to create the directory  structure it's expecting. you can do that with a mkdir -p /home/xxxx/.local/share/xorg
[18:12] <geirha> Codfection: aptitude show gvim  lists the packages that provide gvim, but I'm not sure how to get the same with the other apt front-ends
[18:12] <nacc> geirha: 'gvim' is a virtual package
[18:12] <nacc> geirha: provided by, e.g. 'vim-gnome'
[18:12] <geirha> nacc: yes
[18:13] <EriC^^> apt-cache rdepends maybe?
[18:13] <nacc> geirha: err, sorry, should have directed that at Codfection
[18:13] <nacc> EriC^^: iirc, virtual packages don't work so hot with rdepends
[18:14] <geirha> Codfection: here's the output from aptitude show gvim on a 16.04 install: http://sprunge.us/gfjG
[18:19] <katronix> http://askubuntu.com/questions/806709/microphone-and-google-hangouts can someone check this? does it have enough info for someone to help? a lot of times people tell me I don't include enough info, so wanting to double check
[18:28] <explodes> Hello. After unplugging headphones, I have no audio. (16.04, Nvidia card also in the computer)
[18:31] <katronix> explodes: to make sure its nothing simple, is speakers plugged into sound card?
[18:31] <explodes> Yea
[18:31] <explodes> They were working before, too
[18:31] <explodes> Selecting the correct output device in sound settings has no effect
[18:33] <katronix> explodes: is your nvidia card connected via hdmi? want to make sure its not sending the audio to that
[18:34] <explodes> It is HDMI but that is not the selected output device- I have no way to attach audio to that either to test it, unfortunately
[18:36] <katronix> explodes: might try restarting the sound engine, or restarting the computer (if all else fails)
[18:37] <sruli> i have a fresh installation of ubuntu-mate 16.04 it keeps on crashing, how do i start troubleshooting it? where do i look to start?
[18:38] <katronix> sruli: do you get an error box?
[18:38] <explodes> Do you have shell access, or can you access /var/log/syslog?
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> sruli  start by analysing the error messages
[18:38] <sruli> katronix: there is but the user closed it, will have to wait for next crash
[18:39] <katronix> sruli: then you might want to look at syslog like explodes suggested
[18:40] <vladimir_> hi
[18:40] <vladimir_> i from Crimea
[18:40] <sruli> will wait for next crash to get a start and follow that to syslog, thanks
[18:41] <vladimir_> ?
[18:41] <Sebastien> vladimir_, he is not talking to you
[18:41] <Sebastien> 1944 people in here
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> vladimir_  great, simply ask your ubuntu question an wait
[18:43] <katronix> anyone able to suggest how I can disable linein via alsa?
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> katronix  try and ask in #ubuntustudio
[18:46] <katronix> MonkeyDust: thanks
[18:51] <daveomcd> I tried using the following command: "sudo apt-get install wkhtmltopdf" and it tells me it's a the most recent version of [<IP_ADDRESS>-1] -- then when i do "wkhtmltopdf -V" I get the version [wkhtmltopdf 0.9.6].  Can someone tell me how to correct this so I'm using the most recent version?
[18:51] <katronix> daveomcd: check your path
[18:52] <katronix> you probably have multiple installed
[18:52] <daveomcd> katronix, how to i check/correct my path?
[18:52] <gerep> I have some "ip route" rules and I don't know if those are persistent after a reboot, if not, how can I persist that?
[18:52] <EriC^^> try type -a wkh....
[18:53] <katronix> daveomcd: try http://www.linfo.org/path_env_var.html for more info
[18:53] <katronix> you might want to look at the which command also
[18:54] <daveomcd> ahhh ok thanks!
[18:55] <nadun> hay guys!
[18:55] <orion7> hi
[18:56] <nadun> can you guys tell me how to get a ubuntu partnership for a competition
[18:57] <nadun> organized by university college
[18:58] <nadun> :/
[18:58] <sruli> try http://partners.ubuntu.com/
[18:59] <nadun> thanks
[19:01] <JCM83> hey I'm trying to install archlinux from usb and I keep getting error msgs
[19:01] <JCM83> can yall help?
[19:01] <Sebastien> this is #ubuntu JCM83. not #archlinux
[19:01] <EriC^^> /join #archlinux
[19:01] <EriC^^> they can be tough, just a heads up
[19:01] <hwk> [   25.425245] xhci_hcd 0000:03:00.0: WARN: SuperSpeed Endpoint Companion descriptor for ep 0x83 does not support streams -- if i upgrade this might have a chance of working?
[19:05] <explodes> Ok now, somehow, there is a stream of audio being sent to the correct device from my music player, but there is no audible output
[19:05] <hwk> [22:04] == one00handed<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] --- "gone to find my owner" would be a better qoute
[19:07] <ioria> explodes, do you have the right codec (decodec) ?
[19:07] <xentity1x> Hi so I tried installing ubuntu from a usb stick. I clicked erase disk and install. The installer then froze. So i rebooted. Now the entire boot sequence is messed up. I cant even enter bios settings. Anyone know what might have caused this?
[19:08] <explodes> ioria: It was working before, so I assume that I do
[19:08] <hwk> might be something corupt on you usb data
[19:08] <Zta> Ubuntu 16.04.1 must be the most buggy and generally horrible experience I've never had just booting a live dist.
[19:09] <hwk> yeah, updating didnt fix my issue.... any suggestions anyone? got a seagate usb3 hdd
[19:09] <ioria> explodes,  check SystemSettings -> Sound
[19:09] <Zta> And that's: "ever had"
[19:09] <hwk> when i plug it into a usb3 port i get the error above, when connected to the usb2 port it work, but with "crappy usb2" speeds
[19:10] <hwk> running on 14, too afraid to upgrade to 16
[19:10] <explodes> ioria: in pavucontrol, I see the correct device, and the volume meter is jumping, but there is no actual audio
[19:10] <QuinnStorm> xentity1x: your box may be UEFI...if so, there's a 50/50 chance you're bricked
[19:10]  * QuinnStorm glares at UEFI
[19:11] <xentity1x> quinnstorm, what does that mean
[19:11] <ioria> explodes,  but sound is working  (in general) or is a specific stream issue ?
[19:11] <Zta> hwk: I was just about to pull my guts together and upgrade myself, but after 10 minutes with that live dist, I'm not at all convinced that this will even run on my computer.
[19:11] <QuinnStorm> (basically UEFI requires certain files in a special partition on the disk, without them it depends on the machine if it'll boot)
[19:11] <explodes> ioria: sound works through the headphones
[19:11] <ioria> explodes,  no speakers ?
[19:11] <hwk> xentity1x: live dist :D for now
[19:11] <QuinnStorm> you may be able to recover with uefi files on an external disk
[19:11] <explodes> sound does not work through the speakers
[19:12]  * QuinnStorm nods "many live dists come with uefi boot files"
[19:12] <xentity1x> hwk, im not sure i understand
[19:12] <Jordan_U> xentity1x: QuinnStorm: There is *not* a 50% chance your hardware is bricked.
[19:12] <QuinnStorm> well, in the old world, bios was in rom or flash ram and all was good
[19:12] <QuinnStorm> Jordan_U: sorry, I was being figurative
[19:12] <Jordan_U> xentity1x: What exactly happens when you try to boot?
[19:12]  * QuinnStorm steps back and lets Jordan_U handle this, apologizing
[19:13] <ioria> explodes,  have you checked alsamixer ?
[19:13] <Jordan_U> QuinnStorm: The boot firmware is still in flash on the motherboard with UEFI.
[19:13] <xentity1x> I get to a screen that says press del if you want to enter the bios. Whether I press it or not I get a black screen after.
[19:13] <Zta> I've initiated an upgrade from 14 to 16.  I want to see if this really works.
[19:14] <explodes> ioria: yea, everything looks good
[19:14] <bran> Hello, I was here a couple days ago, and I reported an issue with not being able to boot a Ubuntu live USB on a laptop (tried everything I could think of, including nomodeset). After ruling out every other possibility, I think the reason why it won't boot is because it has a openSUSE btrfs partition. Because I remember being able to boot Ubuntu 16.04 in this laptop before having the btrfs partition.
[19:14] <QuinnStorm> Jordan_U: but if its misconfigured and can't find a bootia32/64.efi it won't help
[19:14] <bran> Should I report a bug or something?  It says the installation of that software is incomplete.
[19:14] <Jordan_U> xentity1x: What model comouter (ideally what model motherboard if you know)?
[19:14] <QuinnStorm> Jordan_U: I've seen some that refuse to boot one on an external device
[19:14] <hwk> xentity1x: try pressing the button repeatetly and faster
[19:15] <xentity1x> asus m4a79t deluxe
[19:15] <xentity1x> jordan_u^
[19:15] <explodes> ioria: i guess it is possible my speaker system died.. but i had a weird issue in previous versions of ubuntu where the speaker output wouldnt work after unplugging headphones. i would have to use pavucontrol to reselect the device manually. now that is no longer working (16.04)
[19:15] <QuinnStorm> of course this laptop is the exact opposite, it defaults to bios mode if it finds an mbr disk as its only disk
[19:15] <xentity1x> is my hard drive screwed?
[19:15] <hwk> Zta: drop a line when your done and share if its stable
[19:16] <hwk> im running it as vm
[19:16] <ioria> explodes,  pavucontrol -> Configuration ?
[19:16] <Zta> hwk: Will do.
[19:16] <QuinnStorm> xentity1x: not forever, almost certainly, its just a matter of recovery
[19:16] <explodes> ioria: tried that, too
[19:16] <QuinnStorm> I let my personal feelings toward uefi get in the way earlier and spoke hyperbolically
[19:16] <xentity1x> quinnstorm, any idea how i can do that? I cant even load the bios.
[19:16] <ioria> explodes, when exactly stopped working ?
[19:16] <Zta> hwk: How do start the vm?
[19:17] <explodes> ioria: of all available output (not "unplugged") output devices, only the two headphones devices play actual audio
[19:17] <Zta> hwk: qemu?  and what options?
[19:17] <QuinnStorm> xentity1x: work with Jordan_U , I think they are doing sensibly here
[19:17] <explodes> ioria: the speaker devices, although receiving audio streams as indicating by their jumping volume meters, play no actual audio through the speakers
[19:17] <eelstrebor> i recently installed 16.04 on an asus laptop but i can't seem to insert text into a field using shift-insert like on other pc's - the asus manual is no help and it appears that it's not a common problem since i can't find an answer with a search engine
[19:17] <hwk> ahh im using vmware rightnow
[19:17] <Zta> oh
[19:17] <hwk> and the their toolkit is busted as well for 14.04
[19:17] <ioria> explodes, ok... but when exactly stopped working ?
[19:17] <xentity1x> Jordan_U: asus m4a79t deluxe
[19:18] <hwk> the precompiled one doesnt work for shares/mounts
[19:18] <Zta> Ah, this seems to boot something: qemu-system-x86_64 downloads/ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:18] <hwk> when trying to compile i get some kguid error
[19:18] <Jordan_U> xentity1x: Is the Ubuntu LiveUSB still plugged in? Do you have a bootable DVD you can try using?
[19:18] <hwk> maybe i got a bad kernel version
[19:19] <xentity1x> jordan_u, i unplugged the usb. I dont have a dvd.
[19:19] <hwk> used to compile android stuff which worked no issues
[19:19] <explodes> ioria: my gf was playing a game with a headphone set with a microphone. when it was unplugged it got messed up, even through restarts
[19:19] <Zta> booting ubuntu 16.04.1 image like that crashes
[19:19] <explodes> ioria: im gonna try using a microphone i may have lying around, maybe that will trick the system or whatever
[19:20] <Jordan_U> xentity1x: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/275878-31-asus-m4a79xtd-bios-help says that you need to start pressing delete immediately after powering on the machine.
[19:20] <ioria> explodes,   do you have a liveusb at hand ?
[19:20] <explodes> ioria: i just wiped it a few days ago :\
[19:20] <explodes> ioria: what would you have me do?
[19:20] <explodes> ioria: boot and test?
[19:20] <ioria> explodes,   just try it
[19:21] <ioria> explodes,   yep
[19:21] <explodes> ioria: well that is curious. it isnt detecting a microphone
[19:21] <explodes> i wonder if this is all caused by a shitty mobo
[19:22] <ioria> explodes,   laptop or desktop ?
[19:22] <explodes> desktop
[19:22] <rodney77> Hello, I am having trouble connection to repos after upgrading to 16.04
[19:22] <rodney77> when i run sudo apt update it sticks on 0% [Working] for about 30 seconds
[19:22] <xentity1x> jordan_u, thanks but that doesnt solve the problem. I still get sent to the same black screen with a blinking cursor
[19:22] <rodney77> and when i try to install anything in apt or synaptic it hangs in the same way
[19:23] <rodney77> also, installed kodi and the repos time out
[19:23] <rodney77> some sftp sites are slow to connect. once these things finally connect, the download speed is fine
[19:23] <rodney77> i disabled ipv6 and added usedns no to my ssh config but this didn't fix the problem
[19:23] <arooni> hey folks; i'm loving ubuntu 16.04 ; but question;  gnome-do has a feature to suspend my computer; which appears not to work, even though clicking the power button then hitting suspend works fine.  any ideas on how i can quickly suspend the laptop via a gnome-do/spotlight/alfred type approach?  thanks!
[19:26] <ioria> explodes,   do you have a Built-in Audio  in Systesettin-g> Sound or in Pavucontrol   ?
[19:26] <Epx998> Anyone get Ubuntu working with an Intel® SSD DC P3700 ?  Im having problems with it.  Under ubuntu 16.04, the drives were detected and the OS installed, but it doesnt look like GRUB accepted the entry.  Not sure of my next step.
[19:27] <mike_papa> Repeating question: Any M.2 to PCIe 4x adapters knowing to be 100% Ubuntu 16.04 compatible (install & boot included).
[19:27] <mike_papa> known*
[19:28] <Jordan_U> xentity1x: OK, since your internal drive is already wiped, you could physically put the hard drive in another computer and put an Ubuntu live system on it.
[19:28] <mike_papa> I want Samsung 950 Pro ssd drive in my desktop.
[19:28] <explodes> ioria: yea "Digital Output (S/PDIF)"
[19:28] <ioria> explodes,   no, Analog
[19:28] <QuinnStorm> when I build a desktop I want a Raid0 of SSD's :-P
[19:28] <explodes> ioria: oh, nope.
[19:28] <xentity1x> joradn_u, im not sure it is wiped. It seems like it was only partially wiped. I think that might be the problem.
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> xentity1x  type jor, then hit tab to autocomplete
[19:29] <Jordan_U> xentity1x: (Installing Ubuntu normally on the drive then moving it back won't work with UEFI for reasons I don't have time to explain at the moment)
[19:30] <ioria> explodes,   do you have a dedicated sound card or is integrated on the mb ?
[19:30] <Zta> Does UEFI prove us anything good?  Or is it just MS being assholes?
[19:30] <explodes> ioria: integrated
[19:30] <xentity1x> MonkeyDust, I cant even get to a terminal.
[19:30] <Jordan_U> Zta: That's a question for #ubuntu-offtopic .
[19:31] <ioria> explodes,   no sound if you play a youtube video ?
[19:31] <Zta> Jordan_U: A simple "the first" or "the latter" won't cut it? =)
[19:32] <explodes> ioria: headphones only
[19:32] <Jordan_U> xentity1x: I need to go unfortunately. You might also try ##hardware, and maybe try just physically removing the hard drive entirely and see whst happens when you boot with no drives, or with just the LiveUSB.
[19:33] <ioria> explodes,   speaker-test -D plug:surround51 -c 6 -l 1 -t wav
[19:34] <explodes> Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy
[19:35] <explodes> when i select the speakers as output, the speaker-test plays through headphones
[19:36] <_adb> does anyone have recommendations for allowing users to switch keyboard languages on the fly? i remember unity having something like this built in, but the current DE i'm working with is openbox
[19:37] <ioria> !ask | rajkane
[19:39] <explodes> I give up D:
[19:39] <rajkane> my screen is flickering when I reduce brightness
[19:40] <ioria> explodes,  sudo alsa force-reload
[19:42] <explodes> http://pastebin.com/7YNGD8u4
[19:42] <ioria> explodes,  and ... ? no sound ?
[19:42] <explodes> not through speakers
[19:43] <xentity1x> jordanu_u: thanks!
[19:43] <Epx998> when installing ubuntu - can I load a driver for the install? or does that have to be built into the install image .iso ?
[19:46] <ortsvorsteher> !install | ubottu
[19:49] <ioria> explodes,  try a liveusb   (or read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure)
[19:51] <m2188a> hola
[19:51] <explodes> ioria: ok. thanks for your help, I appreciate it
[19:51] <ioria> explodes,  good luck mate
[19:51] <m2188a> #ARGENTINA
[19:52] <explodes> #EARTH
[19:53] <Guest7424> hjkhgkjh
[19:53]  * eelstrebor is going to roll back to 14.04 - too many issues with 16.04
[19:56] <orion7> mike_papa, thanks
[19:57] <orion7> oops
[19:57] <orion7> typo
[19:58] <orion7> hi
[19:58] <bigpic> can anyone tell me in a multi nic box why the default route doesn’t get established on boot?
[19:58] <Epx998> eelstrebor: I installed 16 and my grub write didnt even take, buh.
[19:58] <bigpic> yet if I restart the networking with the exact config
[19:58] <bigpic> the route get’s established
[19:59] <bigpic> so far switching from freebsd -> ubuntu hasn’t been smooth at all
[20:00] <rmota_> hello
[20:01] <rmota_> hello, can anybody hep me?
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> rmota_  start with a question
[20:02] <Jordan_U> bigpic: Does only one NIC connect to a network with a DHCP server that's advertising a default gateway?
[20:02] <JCM83> hey all
[20:02] <rmota_> I can't do a cURL from my server to its public IP
[20:02] <JCM83> I'm trynna boot from USB archlinux distro
[20:02] <bjornbjorn> hi guys, I borked my ubuntu a while back after upgrade and now I only get grub rescue> wile booting and an error saying file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found. If I do an 'ls' I see a bunch of filesystems, all of which say "unkown filesystem" if i ls it (ie. ls (hd0)) - except for (hd0,msdos1) but that looks empty if I ls it .. any hints?
[20:02] <rmota_> the message is that it can't connect to server
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> JCM83  wrong channel, this is is ubuntu only
[20:03] <rmota_> but when I do it from client machine it works perfecctly
[20:03] <JCM83> I'm trynna boot from USB archlinux distro and I'm getting ""/dev/disk/by-label/ARCH_201608" device did not show up after 30 seconds....
[20:03] <JCM83> falling back to interactive prompt
[20:03] <JCM83> and then I'm in ramfs$
[20:03] <bigpic> no one is a local interface the other is a public interface
[20:03] <JCM83> any ideas what to do here? I'm wasting so much of my life on this.
[20:03] <bigpic> I want to set the default route to the public interface
[20:03] <bigpic> http://pastebin.com/e6zs2enb
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> JCM83  ask in a arch linux channel, not here
[20:04] <bigpic> i’ve tried with and without the bonding and ucarp
[20:04] <bigpic> no diff
[20:04] <bigpic> the up script doesn’t do anything
[20:04] <bigpic> yet if i do a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:04] <sruli> i want to set my chat log files on a remote server and mount it so all log files are accessible from all my PC's, what would be the best file server to setup for this? ftp nfs, webdav, other?
[20:04] <bigpic> I can 2 routes
[20:05] <bigpic> I get*
[20:05] <JCM83> MonkeyDust wait is archlinux not ubuntu
[20:06] <JCM83> ?
[20:06] <JCM83> son of a bitch what a waste of time
[20:06] <Jordan_U> bigpic: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[20:06] <bigpic> 16.04
[20:07] <Jordan_U> bigpic: Then you should be using systemctl. Don't ever call init scripts directly or they can't be properly monitored by init.
[20:08] <bigpic> that doesn’t explain why the routes are non existent on boot
[20:11] <Jordan_U> bigpic: Please pastebin the output of "journalctl --boot".
[20:11] <GiGa> Hello, I've just installed a 16.04 computer and have installed dnsmasq.  Unfortunately DNSMasq seems to start before the computer's interfaces are up so it fails to start
[20:11] <GiGa> can anyone tell  me how to delay dnsmasq's start please?
[20:11] <Jordan_U> bigpic: journalctl --boot | pastebinit
[20:12] <bigpic> that’s a nifty option
[20:12] <bigpic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22074605/
[20:14] <bigpic> could this be it?
[20:14] <bigpic> Aug 03 15:29:43 db2 kernel: IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): vlan100: link is not ready
[20:16] <Jordan_U> bigpic: I wonder if "Aug 03 15:29:43 db2 sh[1935]: ifquery: recursion detected for interface bond0 in pre-up phase" is related
[20:21] <Snappy_> Hi can anyone help me with installing shout with ubuntu Snappy?
[20:22] <Snappy_> I'm getting an error saying "unsupported protocol scheme"
[20:22] <fuad> hi
[20:23] <Snappy_> hi fuad, do you know anything about ubuntu snappy?
[20:24] <ChrisP_> I still can't get gnome to come up on boot after my upgrade from 14.04 >16.04 gdm is loaded and running - http://paste.ubuntu.com/22074768 I'm at a loss as to what I should do now
[20:26] <Jordan_U> ChrisP_: Have you tried "systemctl restart gdm"?
[20:27] <GnomeKris> I just did a fresh install of 16.04.1. Clean install. I have no sound. alsamixer and pavucontrol show the correct sound device selected and unmuted with volume at max...
[20:27] <GnomeKris> I'm at a loss now.
[20:28] <Jordan_U> ChrisP_: Also, does "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade" confirm that packages have in fact been successfully upgraded?
[20:29] <ChrisP_> I've got one dash now in the upper left corner of the monitor
[20:29] <ChrisP_> nothing else
[20:30] <GnomeKris> Does anyone have any idea as to why I have no sound?
[20:30] <ChrisP_> yes the only issue is with sa-compile
[20:30] <GnomeKris> wtf is sa-compile?
[20:30] <GnomeKris> In all my googling for the last hour, that has not come up at all.
[20:31] <GnomeKris> oh, nvm. not me.
[20:31] <GnomeKris> my bad
[20:31] <ChrisP_> ctrl-alt f1 takes me back to the console
[20:32] <ChrisP_> part of spamassassin
[20:34] <streetchild> hi, can any1 explain 2 me how 2 use pyvnc2swf (screen recorder) on linux mint? thnx
[20:34] <merpnderp> Anyone know what iOS Live Photos look like in Shotwell?
[20:37] <GnomeKris> still no sound and speaker-test doesn't output anything.
[20:41] <ChrisP_> when booting I press 'e' when the kernel I want to run is highlighted. On one of the lines that brings up there is an 'ro' at the end. I can't save it to paste to paste in but I can write it down and put in a file if it would help
[20:41] <GnomeKris> so I guess nobody knows anything about why 16.04.1 doesn't have sound...
[20:41] <GnomeKris> Good to know
[20:42] <ChrisP_> if I could boot into gnome I'd check for q
[20:42] <adam__> Hello
[20:43] <Jordan_U> ChrisP_: Have you tried "systemctl restart gdm"?
[20:43] <Jordan_U> ChrisP_: Also, does "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade" confirm that packages have in fact been successfully upgraded?
[20:43] <bigpic> Jordan_U: if I move the gateway definition out of the vlan onto the bonded interface the route get’s established
[20:43] <bigpic> =\
[20:43] <bigpic> kinda flaky
[20:44] <Seburo> Hi.  Anyone available to help with a Ubuntu/Firefox question?
[20:44] <dm_comp> hi, it would seem that "grub-mkrescue -o grub.iso" doesn't work. please text if on 16.04
[20:45] <dm_comp> it doesn't create a file grub.iso
[20:45] <dm_comp> grub-mkrescue (GRUB) 2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.1
[20:45] <dm_comp> s/text/test
[20:46] <Seburo> Firefox downloaded from Ubuntu Software has a menu bar (file/edit/view etc) integrated into the Ubuntu desktop.  A Firefox build downloaded from Mozilla does not.  What is the difference?  How can I "fix" a Mozilla build?
 yes the only issue is sa-compile
[20:50] <Seburo> Any ideas?
[20:54] <SkylakeMX> Seburo: prob. an optional package of firefox unity or something, let me check for you
[20:54] <dm_comp> http://pastebin.com/5uN1J4n9 problems start happening on line 266
[20:54] <Seburo> skylakeMX: Thank you, appreciate any help you can provide.
[20:56] <SkylakeMX> Seburo: could you navigate to about:config and search for 'unity' and report back what you found?
[20:57] <SkylakeMX> Seburo: because you should create if it's not there 'ui.use_unity_menubar' and set it to true
[20:58] <Seburo> skylakemx: Six entries, but not that one...  let me give that a try.
[20:58] <SkylakeMX> Seburo: could you also send a pastebin link with the ones you have?
[20:59] <Seburo> skylakemx: How do you create an entry?
[20:59] <SkylakeMX> Seburo: Just use right-click on some space where no entries are; New -> Boolean, insert name and switch it to true
[21:00] <SkylakeMX> Seburo: Just a small note that i'm not using ubuntu myself :P so some things are hard to check myself like the existing entries
[21:00] <Seburo> skylakeMX: no problem, fully understand
[21:02] <Seburo> SkylakeMX:  Just have to restart Fx, back shortly.
[21:02] <rehmat> v
[21:04] <ChrisP_> Top shows gdm3, gdm-session-wor, gdm-x-session and gnome-session-b running. Xorg also is running.
[21:04] <SuperMechaCow> Hey, if I just "apt remove lubuntu" is that gonna mess up my unity?
[21:06] <fabio__> oi
[21:06] <SkylakeMX> Seburo: u there?
[21:06] <SkylakeMX> Seburo: hey, did it work?
[21:06] <Sebuto> SkylakeMX: tried that entry, but no luck.
[21:06] <fabio__> abrasil
[21:07] <SkylakeMX> Sebuto: could you post a pastebin with all your unity entries?
[21:07] <Sebuto> SkylakeMX:  Will create a pastebin.
[21:08] <borked> How can I use /var bind mounted from /home/operatingsystem/var such that systemd doesn't put me in an emergency shell?
[21:08] <borked> On 16.04.1
[21:08] <borked> This did work on 14.04.4.
[21:09] <borked> Another problem I have with the emergency shell is that it doesn't tell me *why* it puts me in an emergency shell.
[21:10] <Sebuto> SkylakeMX: http://pastebin.com/1TJeGVmg
[21:10] <SkylakeMX> Sebuto: did you delete the added one already?
[21:11] <Sebuto> Yes, happy to put back if required.
[21:11] <SkylakeMX> Sebuto: let me check for another solution first
[21:11] <Sebuto> Ok
[21:12] <Sebastien> Sebuto. funny nick
[21:12] <Sebastien> i got hilighted from it
[21:12] <Sebastien> :D
[21:12] <Sebastien> Seb*
[21:12] <sarek> My computer seems to be randomly shuting down after a while or its crashing. Not exactly sure. what logs should i be looking at?
[21:12] <Sebuto> Sebastian: Ouch, sorry about that.
[21:13] <Sebastien> no dont worry
[21:13] <Sebastien> :)
[21:13] <Sebastien> i find it funny
[21:14] <SkylakeMX> Sebuto: may I ask you why you exactly use the one from mozilla and not from the repos?
[21:15] <Sebuto> SkylakeMX:  Recomended to me by some mozillians to help provide feedback to mozilla through using the nightly build.
[21:16] <Bashing-om> sarek: /var/log/syslog give any hints ?? .. could be overheating .
[21:16] <SkylakeMX> Sebuto: But you could also provide feedback from the repository one?
[21:17] <sarek> Hmmm Bashing-om its a desktop that it sutting down when its idle and asleep
[21:17] <sarek> Lemme take a look
[21:17] <knobo> Is it time to upgrade 14.04 to 16.04 now?
[21:17] <houssam> salam 3likom
[21:17] <Sebuto> SkylakeMX:  Fair point, now that telemetry has been fixed.  Still interested to understand this difference though, if only to feedback to Mozilla.
[21:18] <borked> How can I reboot from the moment the kernel loads instead of rebooting the whole machine?
[21:18] <k1l_> knobo: the LTS upgrade is open now. but you have time till the end of 14.04 support time to do the upgrade
[21:18] <borked> knobo: ubuntu upgrade is completely broken.
[21:18] <SkylakeMX> Sebuto: I've read on some forums that the repository one contains some patches that make the integration work smoothly, not to sure if that's done by an extra dependency or something
[21:18] <borked> knobo: there are at least 5 bugs which I have hit already.
[21:18] <k1l_> knobo: dont listen to borked
[21:19] <Bashing-om> knobo: While one can release upgrade, why If 14.04 is stable and does all you want ??
[21:19] <borked> k1l_: why shouldn't he/she?
[21:19] <k1l_> borked: upgrades get automated testings. so the question is: what did you change on your system
[21:19] <SkylakeMX> Sebuto: If you could, could you put the result of 'sudo apt-get install firefox' on paste bin so I know what packages will be installed, are optional and will get removed etc.?
[21:19] <Sebuto> SkylakeMX:  Okay.  Thank you for your time and your help.  Appreciate it.
[21:19] <borked> k1l_: then obviously the tests are not exhaustive... duh
[21:19] <SkylakeMX> Sebuto: u don't need to install, but if you do that output would help too
[21:19] <sarek> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22083430/ i dont see anything there that might indicate as to why its shutting down or crashing http://paste.ubuntu.com/22083430/
[21:20] <knobo> I would like systemd to keep my services up.
[21:20] <borked> k1l_: all the issues I am talking about have been acknowledged by 50+ users.
[21:20] <k1l_> borked: and systemd is very picky about what is allowed and working with the fstab. upstart did boot a lot better.
[21:20] <Bashing-om> sarek: I look, see if I see aught .
[21:20] <SkylakeMX> Sebuto: no problem, glad to help
[21:20] <borked> k1l_: yes, like /var bind mounts.
[21:20] <borked> k1l_: and an upgrade should take that into account, which it doesn't.
[21:20] <Sebuto> SkylakeMX:  I have to go now, but thanks for the offer and your time.  Bye. :-)
[21:21] <arca_vorago> On 16.04, I want to script windows launching to certain positions on certain workspaces (running 8x8 workspaces) what would be the best way?
[21:21] <knobo> I like systemd so far.
[21:21] <SkylakeMX> Sebuto: no problem, cya
[21:21] <borked> k1l_: so, no, it's not tested in any meaningful way.
[21:21] <sarek> thank you Bashing-om
[21:21] <k1l_> borked: so you made customs mounts that dont work with systemd? and you blame ubuntu now?
[21:21] <borked> k1l_: you must be getting paid to say these things.
[21:21] <knobo> I have not read the negative things about systemd. So I don't know what it would be.
[21:22] <borked> k1l_: yes, it's Ubuntu, isn't it?
[21:22] <k1l_> borked: i dont get paid, i just see your attitude which is way out of line
[21:22] <knobo> I have used systemd on archlinux since the transition.
[21:22] <borked> k1l_: why should I not expect that to work?
[21:22] <sarek> here is syslog Bashing-om http://paste.ubuntu.com/22083773/
[21:22] <knobo> But I will never put archlinux on my servers.
[21:22] <knobo> never.
[21:22] <borked> k1l_: if upgrades don't work with changed configuration, then it means nobody can write to /etc/fstab.
[21:22] <knobo> I think.
[21:22] <k1l_> borked: the question is: why do the systemd guys dont expect such settings and make systemd work with that?
[21:23] <SkylakeMX> knobo: I use archlinux as my development / home OS, but I would strongly to don't recomment it too as server since the bleeding edge rolling :D
[21:23] <borked> k1l_: no, Ubuntu choose to use systemd.
[21:23] <borked> chose*
[21:23] <borked> k1l_: why are you now blaming anything on systemd guys?
[21:23] <k1l_> borked: ubuntu can only ship the software as it is. if systemd is broken what do you expect ubuntu to do?
[21:23] <SkylakeMX> k1l_: to not roll that systemd update.
[21:23] <Bassem> how can i know my vga memory
[21:23] <knobo> That's why I want to upgrade to 16.10... to get systemd.
[21:23] <borked> k1l_: no, Ubuntu could have ... tested it first.
[21:24] <knobo> Then I will have the same initscript on my dev/laptop as prod.
[21:24] <borked> k1l_: the bugs I am talking about have existed for over a year.
[21:24] <borked> k1l_: so, not releasing would have been my preferred solution.
[21:24] <hggdh> borked: please propose a test to test your issue. Both Ubuntu QA and the systemd folks would be happy
[21:24] <k1l_> SkylakeMX: there is no maintained other solution. if you know about inits then you would not say such a thing.
[21:24] <knobo>
[21:24] <knobo> borked: what kind of bugs did you find?
[21:24] <k1l_> borked: stop that pointless rantings in here. its enough
[21:25] <borked> k1l_: uhm, pointless ranting? I am just saying that Ubuntu upgrades are broken (the whole internet is full of blogs saying the same thing).
[21:25] <SkylakeMX> borked: there is currently a bug that causes a minute hang up because a systemd is trying to get a network device link, you mean that one?
[21:25] <borked> knobo: one was the gcc-doc bug.
[21:25] <borked> knobo: another one is that /var via bind mounts results in an emergency shell.
[21:25] <arooni> any way to network mount amazon cloud drive in ubuntu 16.04 ?
[21:25] <borked> knobo: I still have that problem.
[21:26] <borked> knobo: I asked a question above, which nobody answered.
[21:26] <Bashing-om> sarek: I would be concerned that Internet file system sharing is causing the system to go nuts . /22083430/ is filled with reports .  Why don't you ask on a channel that can actually look at the code involved?
[21:26] <knobo> borked: I don't understand the bug. "/var via bind mounts results in an emergency shell"
[21:26] <borked> SkylakeMX: my 16.04.1 install starts with an emergency shell. I don't have any idea why.
[21:27] <borked> knobo: then perhaps you lack the skills to help. Thanks for inquiring, though.
[21:27] <hggdh> borked: if you want help please stop with your ranting
[21:27] <SkylakeMX> borked: you mean the grub rescue one?
[21:27] <borked> SkylakeMX: *no*
[21:27] <knobo> borked: nobody understands your bug description.
[21:27] <borked> SkylakeMX: I think it's a systemd rescue shell.
[21:28] <borked> emergency shell*
[21:28] <SkylakeMX> borked: could you post a image / log? It's a bit hard to do it without any information
[21:28] <sarek> Bashing-om: is there anything i can do about that? Im sharing my external drive with my mac
[21:28] <borked> SkylakeMX: sorry, the system is broken.
[21:28] <borked> SkylakeMX: how am I going to make a picture of that?
[21:28] <SkylakeMX> borked: with a phone?
[21:28] <borked> SkylakeMX: and besides, you would know what I am talking about if you had a clue.
[21:28] <borked> If someone comes along with a clue, talk to me.
[21:28] <k1l_> arooni: what protocol is it? sftp? sshfs? nautilus works with sftp and such
[21:29] <hggdh> borked: last warning. Stop being agressive
[21:29] <borked> Otherwise, please don't "try to help".
[21:29] <SkylakeMX> borked: some people try to help you but if you can't clarify your issue then we can't help
[21:29] <borked> hggdh: why is just explaining that you aren't such great helpers agressive?
[21:29] <borked> hggdh: it's not. Thanks.
[21:30] <hggdh> borked: please go elsewhere and return with patience and education.
[21:30] <sarek> Any way maybe i can minimize those reports or disable them so it doesnt shut down Bashing-om
[21:30] <borked> If you want to tell people that the Ubuntu upgrade actually works, I would say you should first do a search for all the bugs and if there is a result saying "upgrade", it probably isn't bug free.
[21:30] <k1l_> !attitude | borked
[21:31] <SkylakeMX> borked: the upgrade does actually work, but yes a clean install would be better tho.
[21:31] <k1l_> this is community support by volunteers. if you cant act according to common community standards and just get aggressive and rant then this might not be the right place for you. maybe you better try on askubuntu, ubuntuforums, discourse or mailinglists.
[21:32] <SkylakeMX> borked: do you mean some error like this? http://i.stack.imgur.com/r8EXO.jpg
[21:32] <arca_vorago> nothing?
[21:32] <Sebastien> SkylakeMX, the user has been muted from the channel.
[21:32] <arca_vorago> How would I launch a windows application on login in 16.04?
[21:32] <SkylakeMX> Sebastien: ok, thank you for notifying me
[21:32] <Sebastien> np <3
[21:32] <knobo> hmmm. now I remember why I do upgrades inside tmux
[21:32] <Sebastien> arca_vorago, using wine?
[21:32] <ngaioles> irc is still a nice place to communicate
[21:32] <knobo> atleast not in X
[21:33] <Sebastien> depends of the days
[21:33] <arca_vorago> windowed*
[21:33] <Sebastien> and time of day
[21:33] <arca_vorago> sorry not windows
[21:33] <Sebastien> lol
[21:33] <k1l_> SkylakeMX: is that picture from you?
[21:33] <SkylakeMX> k1l_: ofcourse it isn't, I handle my linux systems with care <3
[21:33] <arca_vorago> I am doing an 8x8 workspaces setup but I want to auto launch all the apps on the right workspaces
[21:34] <Bashing-om> sarek: Over my head .. I also do not know why the wireless interface is being hit so hard . Lots of request .
[21:34] <sarek> Probably because i have the hard drive smb mounted and am on wireless Bashing-om
[21:35] <SkylakeMX> k1l_: what version of ubuntu do you run?
[21:35] <k1l_> SkylakeMX: different ones. but all are at least 16.04
[21:35] <sarek> is this addressing the issue Bashing-om ?
[21:35] <SkylakeMX> k1l_: any issues so far?
[21:35]  * sarek http://askubuntu.com/questions/9269/system-hangs-on-shutdown-if-windows-network-drive-in-fstab
[21:37] <_adb> i'm looking for the application and relevant package names for the graphical input/language selector built into unity, or something similar. the need is to change from english to russian, for example, and back. any suggestions? for what it's worth, i'm running openbox on ubuntu server 14.04
[21:37] <Bashing-om> sarek: Xferring many files ".. All I can suggest at this point is to read the logs when returning form a shutdown/crash . Looking at the link .
[21:38] <knobo> does anyone here do upgrades inside tmux?
[21:38] <sarek> yeah i dont think that is addressing the issue in that link
[21:38] <sarek> im not even sure what to google
[21:39] <sarek> the reason this is happening is because i have my ubuntu hard drive being shared smb wirelesly to my mac and a lot of activity on that smb hard drive
[21:39] <arca_vorago> screen but samessame
[21:39] <sarek> Bashing-om:
[21:40] <SkylakeMX> _adb: is this relevant to your issue? http://askubuntu.com/questions/289190/how-to-change-system-language
[21:40] <sarek> im not sure how that would cause the computer to crash/shut down
[21:40] <Seek> hello
[21:40] <k1l_> knobo: the do-release-upgrade does launch a screensession (or tmux) for the upgrade. it even makes a nother ssh port for the case the ssh gets updated and something goes wrong
[21:40] <_adb> SkylakeMX: probably. looking into it now. thank you
[21:41] <SkylakeMX> _adb: please report back if it doesn't, I will keep looking for a solution then
[21:41] <Bashing-om> sarek: The lonk is not releavent . And sharing files with your Mac .. no experience, can not advise . But you can see in the logs the system is not happy with the way the interface is run .
[21:41] <knobo> k1l_: how do I access that tmux session then?
[21:41] <sarek> i see Bashing-om
[21:42] <k1l_> knobo: iirc its a screensession and should be listed in "screen -ls"
[21:43] <unknowc> exit
[21:43] <knobo> I remember once I did the upgrade inside tmux. Then tmux it self was upgraded, and I could no longer connect to the tmux server.
[21:44] <knobo> so I used /proc/PID/exe to connect.
[21:44] <Bashing-om> sarek: Might start my making sure of your mountpoints and permissions in the config file /etc/fstab, and that any and all  UUIDs agree with ' sudo blkid' .
[21:45] <sarek> this is all i have in fstab Bashing-om /dev/sdb2               /media/storage  hfsplus  defaults  0  0
[21:45] <_adb> SkylakeMX: i've complicated things for myself here by not running gnome (or any real full-featured DE), but this is a starting point. i'll have to come back to it tomorrow though. thank you, again
[21:46] <SkylakeMX> _adb: your welcome, good luck tomorrow!
[21:46] <gurnoor> hi
[21:46] <SkylakeMX> gurnoor: hey
[21:46] <gurnoor>  hey
[21:47] <sarek> Bashing-om:  https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/tm19BREo/
[21:47] <SkylakeMX> gurnoor: having any problems?
[21:48] <gurnoor> what do we do here just chat
[21:48] <sarek> Bashing-om: the hfs one is the one smb mounted
[21:48] <k1l_> gurnoor: no, this is the technical support channel for ubuntu. for chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:48] <gurnoor> umm
[21:49] <gurnoor>  i did not get anything
[21:49] <gurnoor> are you gone
[21:49] <knobo> So, there.. My laptop is upgraded :)
[21:51] <Bashing-om> !uuid
[21:53] <Bashing-om> sarek: ^^ I would go with UUIDs rather than "/dev/sdb2" that identifier is subject to change . Then the system has no valid reference . Then I can see why the fault reports .
[21:53] <sarek> ok thanks Bashing-om
[21:54] <Bashing-om> Did the problems begin with this mount ? or when activating the file sharing ?? That then would indicate where the problem lies .
[21:56] <deadmund> So Firefox was released today, but becuase of the Ubuntu package management system it seems that I have to wait a couple extra days to get the newest version.  Can anybody help me figure out how long exactly I'll have to wait?
[21:58] <bprompt> deadmund:    you can always just download firefox from mozilla.org, it comes in a bzip2 file that you can simply unzip, and then run "firefox" from it
[21:58] <deadmund> bprompt: Then I will be off the package manager track correct?
[21:58] <bprompt> deadmund:   or just wait till it makes it to the repository
[21:58] <bprompt> deadmund:  correct
[21:58] <deadmund> bprompt: I planned on waiting till it hits the repo.  How long does it take?
[21:59] <deadmund> Are you talking like 1 day?  or like 1 month?
[21:59] <bprompt> deadmund:    that... I dunno
[21:59] <deadmund> mmm
[21:59] <bprompt> deadmund:   are you looking/waiting for version 47?
[22:00] <deadmund> bprompt: Currently running 47 (from the repos).  Looking for 48 (released today I think)
[22:02] <k1l_> deadmund: depends on if its over one weekend or in the working week etc. i would say its about 3 days
[22:02] <deadmund> k1l_: thanks!
[22:04] <Jochen_wvdT> war nen script *schäm
[22:04] <k1l_> deadmund: firefox48 is already in proposed in the development 16.10. so i guess it will come to proposed for the other ubuntus in the next days for the automated testings and if they pass with all related packages then it gets put into the main repo
[22:04] <sarek> Bashing-om: i will mount using uuid and see if the problem persists
[22:04] <deadmund> k1l_: thanks again!
[22:05] <Bashing-om> sarek: Good deal .. we see then .
[22:06] <vecchiolo> ciao a tutti ragazzi
[22:07] <ChrisP_> https://vVYUnwzN my Xorg.0.log if it helps
[22:09] <ChrisP_> carp I screwed that up https://paste I
[22:10] <SkylakeMX> ChrisP_: holysh1t, that link hehe
[22:10] <k1l_> ChrisP_: that url still doesnt work :)
[22:10] <bprompt> hehe
[22:11] <bprompt> when the clipboard, attacks
[22:11] <ChrisP_> https://pastebin.com/vVYUnwzN
[22:12] <Abe_> someway to turn the upgrade notification off ?
[22:12] <k1l_> ChrisP_: what was the issue?
[22:12] <ChrisP_> fat fingers on my tablet keyboard
[22:12] <SkylakeMX> bprompt: I'm having that problem a lot with archlinux and i3 window manager hehe, there is no ctrl+c and ctrl+v :')
[22:12] <k1l_> ChrisP_: no, not with the url :) with your system
[22:13] <bprompt> SkylakeMX:    get AutoKey then :)
[22:13] <ChrisP_> when I boot it won't load gnome stops at a console login
[22:14] <sarek> thanks again Bashing-om
[22:14] <SkylakeMX> bprompt: I'm going to check that out, thanks :D
[22:14] <SuperMechaCow> Does anybody know what would cause my lxde not to show up in my DM after i've installed it?
[22:14] <k1l_> ChrisP_: can you show the dmesg or syslog file? i dont see an obvious error in the xorg.log
[22:15] <k1l_> ChrisP_: is lightdm installed?
[22:15] <bprompt> SkylakeMX:    I use it for quite a few things, specially for my IDE, to automate some coding stuff
[22:15] <SkylakeMX> bprompt: but it does not solve copy pasting which I need to do with middle-click right?
[22:16] <ChrisP_> Top shows gdm and other related processes running.  sure I have to pull it from the desktop via ssh
[22:16] <Abe_> upgrade notification to 16.04 appears when pc boots. how to get rid of it? what do I have to remove. I always do my updates manually anyway.
[22:16] <bprompt> SkylakeMX:     well, dunno i3 WM, but I"m pretty sure it's configurable to do that, though find it odd it's not
[22:16] <k1l_> ChrisP_: ok, so gdm is running. hmm
[22:18] <Bashing-om> sarek: Hey .. not done much .. let's wait and see if the fix is in befor the thanks .
[22:18] <SkylakeMX> bprompt: have to say that I haven't really got to much time to figure out my clipboard, programming is more my priority too hehe
[22:20] <ChrisP_> that gave me an error but systemctl shows gdm running.
[22:20] <Seek> is there a way to get to the purple grub menu with having it installed?
[22:21] <Seek> i mean grub menu in general
[22:22] <Bray90820> What's a good app to create a bootable USB on ubuntu note I am not creating a bootable USB of ubuntu I am using ubuntu to create a bootable USB of another OS
[22:22] <Abe_> No answers hello.. can I just remove the update-manager, with apt-get remove update-manager
[22:23] <k1l_> Abe_: no
[22:23] <Abe_> will notifications to 16.04 go away then?
[22:23] <Abe_> k1l_: why I do upgrades updates manually over terminal
[22:23] <ChrisP_> k1l: copying dmesg to the tablet
[22:23] <k1l_> Bray90820: the regular tools like: dd, unetbootin, usb-creator schould work
[22:23] <Abe_> I don't need gui help actually
[22:24] <Abe_> to do my upgrades
[22:24] <Bray90820> k1l_: sudo dd if?
[22:25] <Seek> Abe_ its in the [art when he is installing ubuntulmfao
[22:25] <Abe_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/218755/how-to-disable-the-update-manager-popup tells me different though
[22:25] <k1l_> Abe_: i dont understand why you want to uninstall the update-manager
[22:25] <Abe_> cuz it's annoying
[22:26] <k1l_> Abe_: what ubuntu are you using?
[22:26] <Abe_> 14.04
[22:26] <Abe_> I can still do release-upgrade if I want to
[22:26] <k1l_> ok. you could try removing it
[22:27] <Abe_> k hope the 16.04 upgrade goes away with it too then
[22:27] <pontifex> _quit
[22:29] <k1l_> ChrisP_: what did you do before the system didnt boot to the dm?
[22:33] <gjo> It is recommended to update ubuntu 14.04 to ubuntu 16.04 ?
[22:33] <ChrisP_> k1l upgraded from 14.04.4 > 16.04.1
[22:34] <k1l_> gjo: yes. any time from now to the end of the support for 14.04 you need to upgrade.
[22:34] <gjo> ChrisP_: what ?
[22:34] <k1l_> ChrisP_: ah ok. its still using the 14.04 kernel and xorg.
[22:35] <k1l_> ChrisP_: did the upgrade work? what does "lsb_release -d" bring you?
[22:35] <explora> critikal: ei sharp
[22:35] <ChrisP_> :gnome upgraded from 14.04lts
[22:36] <k1l_> erm, ok. i would have expected a 16.04 there
[22:36] <k1l_> "lsb_release -a"?
[22:36] <gjo> k1l_: It is recommeded to ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 ?
[22:37] <ChrisP_> I can't type I upgraded from
[22:37] <k1l_> gjo: its your choice. you can use 14.04 for 2,5 more years or upgrade to 16.04 now
[22:38] <critikal> explora: thanks
[22:38] <ChrisP_> :k1l ubuntu 16.04.1lts
[22:38] <gjo> k1l_: Yes, however, I'm with a problem. The dash not open with keyboard super.
[22:38] <arooni> anyone know how i can network mount a ubuntu ext3 drive for read/write access on my mac mini (but only allow an authenticated user on the network to access it )?
[22:40] <YankDownUnder> arooni: If you install "netatalk" on the Ubuntu machine, access by the Mac will be easy enough...which then makes it even easier if you create a user on the Ubuntu box with that particular share setup for that user only...does that make sense?
[22:41] <ChrisP_> dmesg https://pastebin.com/sTqM8hAH
[22:42] <k1l_> ChrisP_: uh, using a 4.7 kernel? the xorg.log did say a 4.4er trusty kernel
[22:42] <arooni> YankDownUnder: hey thanks!  all makes sense except the part of me having to create a user on the Ubuntu box... why would i Need this?  im the only user of this laptop and only need to access my only user account on the laptop
[22:43] <loa_notebook> i think intel have best driver stack for video, i wonder why they don't do full blown gpus =/
[22:44] <YankDownUnder> arooni: Fair enough - that's how my "home" system is setup...*I* am on the Mac accessing specific shares on the Ubuntu server/workstation - however, there are public shares on the Ubuntu server/workstation that others on the home network can see - but as far as "special" shares, they're only accessible to ME via "Apple Sharing" through my "home" directory on the server...
[22:45] <ChrisP_> I've got various kernels installed I have been using 4.4.0-31 that's what's running now
[22:45] <gjo> Why Dash not open with super keyboard ?
[22:46] <BrokenCog> hello.  I'm trying to configure dovecot on ubuntu, using tls.  it seems the dovecot service is runnig as non-root?  I'm not sure how that happens.  hopefully someone here might have a suggestion?
[22:46] <k1l_> ChrisP_: i dont see any error in the log
[22:46] <YankDownUnder> BrokenCog: Have you asked in #dovecot yet?
[22:47] <hwk> ztane:
[22:47] <BrokenCog> YankDownUnder: crickets ...
[22:47] <hwk> ztane: how is the update?
[22:50] <stacks88> so ive got this remote server i rented today, with ubuntu 14.04. i didnt mention any instructions for partitioning.. but now i see when i run df -h i see that /boot hags 268M size, 213M available (15% used).. and / is the rest of the space, 910 GB size. my question is, when i upgrade kernels in the future, via apt-get dist-upgrade, is the kernel goign to be installed to /boot ? i reckon it
[22:50] <stacks88> would be. would 213mb be enough space ? i mean it should be right?
[22:50] <gjo> super keyboard not open Dash on Ubuntu 14.04. Someone can me help ?
[22:50] <k1l_> gjo: does the key work?
[22:51] <gjo> k1l_: what ?
[22:51] <YankDownUnder> stacks88: When you've done the upgrade (if you're going to do the upgrade) you can use "sudo apt autoremove" to clear up space if required. You should be good to go, but.
[22:51] <ChrisP_> k1l: running $gnome-shell outputs 'clutter-CRITICAL unable to initialize clutter unable to open display you have to set the display environment variable or use the--display command line argument
[22:51] <k1l_> stacks88: new ubuntu should be removing old kernels when there is a new kernel update
[22:52] <stacks88> k1l_ yeah, just wanted to make sure or double check with you guys, i figure it should be fine
[22:52] <stacks88> thx
[22:53] <cknavigator> Hello. After a lot of trial and error, I think I found the cause of a Ubuntu bug, can anyone help me on how to report it with useful info?
[22:53] <cknavigator> I don't have experience reporting bugs
[22:53] <stacks88> Is everyone on 16.04 now? How are people liking it? I am still on 14.04, but i guess sometime this year ill upgrade
[22:53] <stacks88> i am a big fan of the LTS releases
[22:54] <YankDownUnder> stacks88: It works quite well. Stressing "quite".
[22:54] <k1l_> ChrisP_: well, i dont know what is going wrong. the xorg.log is from an old state (before the upgrade). the dmesg is with 4.7 kernel which is not the regular one. you say gdm is running. maybe try installing lightdm and see if that is working?
[22:55] <ChrisP_> I'll give it a q
[22:55] <ChrisP_> try
[22:56] <ChrisP_> says it's already installed :(
[22:57] <k1l_> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm"
[22:57] <SkylakeMX> goodnight ppl
[22:58] <arooni> YankDownUnder: so netatalk will only work to share ubuntu drives ==> mac's ?  is  it a two way street?  would the same approach work for windows?  or not
[22:59] <django_> in Synaptic Package Manager if it says "instaled version" thats the current version right?
[23:00] <django_> tht is installed on the system
[23:03] <ChrisP_> ran it in test mode. failed to get D-bus connection tried sudo lightdm goes back to $doesn't even ask for pw
[23:03] <k1l_> no dont sudo lightdm
[23:04] <k1l_> sudo service lightdm restart
[23:04] <k1l_> and what is "test mode"?
[23:06] <saf> q
[23:08] <k1l_> ChrisP_: well, i got to go. maybe others in here can help you from here on.
[23:08] <nemeci> hey ciao a tutti
[23:13] <ChrisP_> k1l: that came up when I ran just $ lightdm. the sudo command you gave shows job for lightdm service failed because the control process exited error code systemctl status shows loaded: not-found no such file or directory. running off to eat be back in a bit
[23:14] <xentity1x> hi can anyone help me output display to a secondary monitor with nvidia optimus. I have optimus and everything setup, but I'm not sure how to get it to output display.
[23:15] <hwk> last time i tried optimus, i needed to start apps via bumblebee arg to get gpu usage
[23:16] <hwk> it possible that in the meantime (2yrs) some things might have changed
[23:17] <xentity1x> hwk, i think you still need to do that. There's apparently a way to get it to output to external monitor. I'm having a little trouble following the guide https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki/Multi-monitor-setup
[23:17] <arooni> hey everyone.  i'm trying to configure my ubuntu 16.04 laptop such that my mac mini running 10.11.6 (on same wireless network) can access its files (all of them).  i only want my mac to be able to access them... perhaps with some sort of passowrd?  would love your help setting it up
[23:18] <Phlunk3> hey all, I have had an issue which I believe was caused by dpms being enabled, however am hoping to confirm this... is anyone aware of a log which would record actions taken by dpms?
[23:19] <hwk> xentity1x: there is a ppa i think which has proper nvidia drivers compiled
[23:19] <hwk> xentity1x: from there you need figure out how you run apps with gpu support
[23:19] <YankDownUnder> arooni: If you're using the laptop to access the Mac - nearly "natively" - make sure you install "netatalk" - and you'll be able to locate the Mac on the network, mount your "Home" and use it that way (yes, there will be a password) - sharing has to be enabled on the Mac (System Preferences => Sharing => go through the settings properly)
[23:20] <hwk> some apps like hmm, steam "start themselved" with gpu support
[23:20] <arooni> YankDownUnder: but this link https://kremalicious.com/ubuntu-as-mac-file-server-and-time-machine-volume/ suggests that since i'm running a version of os x > 10.9 that i need to use samba
[23:20] <cobordism> hello everyone.
[23:21] <cobordism> I need help fixing a broken dist upgrade from within a chroot.
[23:21] <hwk> if someone else can help with some more recent insights, regarding this....
[23:21] <cobordism> specifically I cannot run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" or "apt-get -f install" becuause of errors
[23:22] <YankDownUnder> arooni: I'm only telling you exactly what I'm using here - right now - right this minute. But you can use what you wish. SMB transfers end up being slow, and I don't like slow - therefore, I stick with using the AFP protocols - speed...ease...whatever...BUT, that being said, your choice, mate. If anything, you can always check in #MacOS as well...
[23:22] <hwk> last time i tried samba (1 day ago) for a 72gb file transfer (read) it crashed :)
[23:22] <cobordism> "/usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d: 1: /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d: /sbin/runlevel: not found"
[23:22] <arooni> YankDownUnder: gotcha; it was talking about how smb had advantages over afp
[23:23] <arooni> YankDownUnder: what version of mac os x do you have?
[23:23] <hwk> fileroller reading a file on a samba share
[23:23] <YankDownUnder> arooni: 10.11.6
[23:23] <Steven_M> H all :)
[23:23] <gr1dl0ck> hello
[23:24] <arooni> YankDownUnder: is it secure?
[23:24] <arooni> YankDownUnder: (afp)
[23:25] <YankDownUnder> arooni: Hehehehe..."secure" is a matter of perspective - however, that being said, the "MS" machines on the network here at home cannot see nor access anything that I have under OSX/afp...
[23:25] <arooni> hmm; do you have a guide to follow?
[23:25] <arooni> maybe that one i linked to earlier?
[23:25] <Steven_M> gr1dl0ck: hi, I'll just type out my question :)
[23:26] <YankDownUnder> arooni: I've been linking Macs & linux boxes for more than 16 years...um...so it's kinda second nature - HOWEVER, that being said, you should be able to find ample stuff via Google...like AMPLE...hmm...
[23:26] <truexfan81> ok on 64bit ubuntu what do i type to get 32bit libstdc++ ? i have a program that specifically needs the 32bit package
[23:27] <arooni> YankDownUnder: gotcha ; i will investigate
[23:27] <tgm4883> truexfan81: you'd install the 'libstdc++:i386' package
[23:27] <Abe_> k I didn't remove update-manager, I just looked under "software-properties-gtk" Software & Updates > Updates > Notify me of new a new Ubuntu Version and checked "Never"... should have solved my problem
[23:27] <truexfan81> tgm4883: thanks
[23:27] <GnomeKris> I'm getting sick of not having sound...I've force  reloaded alsa, made sure nothing is muted, added myself to the audio group and did it all again. Even --purged alsa and pavucontrol then reinstalled...nothing is getting sound. Someone Please come up with something that the first two pages of Google can't tell me.
[23:28] <klystron> hi can anyone tell me how to downlaod adobe flash player for chromium web browser on ubuntu 15.10 or 16.04
[23:28] <truexfan81> also is there a channel for ubuntu on windows? or would those questions be asked here?
[23:28] <tgm4883> truexfan81: #ubuntu-on-windows
[23:29] <hwk> truexfan81: hatred question :)
[23:29] <ahmed751995> truexfan81: you should enable i3 packages by :sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[23:29] <tgm4883> ahmed751995: that should't be necessary
[23:30] <hwk> does the guest os has a linux kernel (heart) :P
[23:30] <truexfan81> i'll try the i386 package when it finishes installing tomcat7
[23:30] <truexfan81> i'm just working my way through the list of deps needed to run Forsaken World server
[23:30] <truexfan81> i have it running on an ovh dedi, i'm now setting up a test server on my pc
[23:31] <hwk> try some virtualization solution  if possible
[23:31] <truexfan81> can't
[23:31] <xcyclist> Is there a utility like yes that can yield random integers?
[23:31] <truexfan81> not enough ram
[23:31] <GnomeKris> This is just rediculous. I have never had an ubuntu install that had sound working off the first boot, but never has it been this complicated to fix.
[23:32] <hwk> ..... why did you bought windows in the first place?
[23:33] <hwk> or get a trial of possible
[23:33] <hwk> to see if the os suits your needs
[23:33] <tgm4883> that seems off topic
[23:34] <truexfan81> for ubuntu for windows should i be worried about this error? initctl: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[23:34] <YankDownUnder> truexfan81: You do realise that the linux subsystem in MS is NOT a full blown system, correct?
[23:35] <truexfan81> YankDownUnder: so long as it will run apache2, mariadb server and tomcat7 it will be fine
[23:35] <hwk> it sound offtopic, but it more like common sense guidelines --- wich ubuntu has a well example
[23:35] <Steven_M>  How do I over come these dpkg --remove errors?: http://pastebin.com/raw/dAeYv0cg
[23:36] <YankDownUnder> truexfan81: Um...have you actually considered Virtualbox do accomplish that task properly...?
[23:36] <truexfan81> YankDownUnder: can't, pc only has 4GB ram, can only give 2GB to a vm and forsaken world server won't start with less than 3.1GB
[23:36] <hwk> im waiting for other os's to launch their live version
[23:36] <hwk> .... not going to happen
[23:37] <Bashing-om> !info brscan2
[23:37] <critikal> Huawei mobile wifi modem not working , I need help
[23:38] <YankDownUnder> truexfan81: In considering all of the "what could go wrong?" bits - you're kinda creating a "chaos", don't ya reckon? Either which, I'm sure you'll dig and have patience enough to figure it all out if that is what you're truly desiring. Kinda a bit unrealistic from a Microsoft standpoint, really...but hey, that's your goal, not mine.
[23:39] <Jordan_U> truexfan81: #ubuntu-on-windows for ubuwin support.
[23:40] <Guest93655> anybody know a ubuntu webcam app?
[23:41] <critikal> Guest93655: try cheese
[23:41] <GnomeKris> So, does anyone know how to get sound working in ubuntu 16.04?
[23:41] <SuperMechaCow> Hey guys. Does anyone know what would cause newly installed LXDE to not show in my DM?
[23:42] <YankDownUnder> (Kinda funny to think that after all the time and effort and money chucked into a distro, that they'd forget a webcam app...) :)
[23:42] <SuperMechaCow> GnomeKris, have you checked the additonal drivers?
[23:42] <GnomeKris> Yup, I'm using literally the only driver available on that screen.
[23:43] <tgm4883> YankDownUnder: how many people use a webcam app...
[23:43] <SuperMechaCow> GnomeKris, I used this: http://yktoo.com/en/software/indicator-sound-switcher
[23:43] <SuperMechaCow> dunno if that will help
[23:43] <Steven_M> Bashing-om: dpkg !info brscan2 isn't a valid command.
[23:44] <SuperMechaCow> nvm. i guess all of that is already in the system settings
[23:44] <YankDownUnder> tgm4883: That I honestly couldn't tell you - however, for *me*, I've used webcams for more than 10yr on linux - in some version or another...ditto with my Macs...so, for me, it's like asking if you can use a keyboard and mouse with linux...nearly a redundant question - does that make sense?
[23:44] <Jordan_U> xcyclist: echo $RANDOM
[23:44] <SuperMechaCow> But seriously, does anybody have any ideas why lxde is not in my DM?
[23:45] <Jordan_U> xcyclist: What is your end goal though?
[23:45] <tgm4883> YankDownUnder: not really. How often do you use a webcam to just take a picture or look at yourself vs using it to communicate with other people
[23:45] <GnomeKris> YankDownUnder: there is already a sound indicator plugin included with ubuntu 16.04, and it works well. I believe my problem is deeper than that.
[23:45] <GnomeKris> shoot. wrong person
[23:45] <GnomeKris> SuperMechaCow.
[23:45] <xcyclist> Thanks.  I needed a list of integers to test a sort algorithm.  Thank you.
[23:45] <SuperMechaCow> GnomeKris, yea I realized that after I said it
[23:46] <tgm4883> YankDownUnder: my point being, which webcam app should be included?
[23:46] <YankDownUnder> tgm4883: I use it to communicate to my parents - 15k km away...not take pictures of my ancient grey skull... :) ...but that's me...
[23:46] <tgm4883> YankDownUnder: exactly
[23:47] <YankDownUnder> tgm4883: I used to like Ekiga, but, well, Cheese is better...(linux side) - for the Mac, well, duh, Facetime...(have always avoided Skye like the plague)
[23:48] <lordcirth> Jitsi is nice.
[23:48] <lordcirth> And Tox hopefully, when it's ready.
[23:50] <tgm4883> Oh cheese is installed by default anyway
[23:50] <YankDownUnder> tgm4883: :) Shore iz!
[23:56] <Bashing-om> Steven_M: My though was to see if that package is from the repo .. appears not .. maybe 3rd party stuff ? ' apt-cache policy brscan2 ' give any hints where it came from ?
[23:57] <YankDownUnder> Isn't "brscan2" from the Brother drivers? (Third party drivers for Brother Printer/Scanner units)
[23:58] <Bashing-om> YankDownUnder: Steven_M Sounds likely so to me .
[23:58] <sencha> Anyone using Ubuntu on Windows 10?
[23:59] <tgm4883> !ubuwin | sencha
[23:59] <sencha> tgm4883: No support needed. :) Thanks though, I'll visit there.


[09:02] <MenZa> rww: Thanks for the heads-up
[09:02]  * MenZa goes to check Junk
[09:02] <MenZa> Nothing here.
[09:03] <rww> MenZa: I ended up checking against the mbox archive on the website to read the ones I'm missing
[09:03] <MenZa> Ah
[09:03] <rww> conversation makes more sense when LjL doesn't look like he's talking to himself.
[09:04] <MenZa> haha
[09:04] <MenZa> He does that all the time, though!
[09:04] <MenZa> Hmm, can anyone think of a way a default-configured Apache on Ubuntu would allow to serve files from /? I've been grumbling about this last night since a user suggested to me in #u that it did
[09:05] <MenZa> vhosts revealed nothing, so I shrugged it off
[09:05] <rww> MenZa: so example.com/ was mapped to / ?
[09:06] <MenZa> I think what he said was including ./file.ext in a HTML document tried to grab /file.ext from the file system
[09:10]  * MenZa huggles rww
[09:10] <MenZa> I think jussi's box died :(
[09:17] <rww> There go the Quassel users~!
[09:22] <rww> MenZa: Anyway. That's weird and I've never seen it happen in my time using Apache
[09:23] <MenZa> Same.
[09:23] <MenZa> harro maco
[10:53] <czajkowski> kklimonda: aloha
[10:54] <kklimonda> hey czajkowski
[10:54] <czajkowski> jussi01: ping
[11:03] <czajkowski> kklimonda: you can always ask for help in here and see if someone can help you
[11:03]  * MenZa waves to kklimonda, czajkowski
[11:04] <kklimonda> czajkowski, will do in a moment :)
[11:08] <czajkowski> kklimonda: grand
[11:14] <kklimonda> so - there is a problem with #ubuntu-pl channel that is an official Polish support channel for Ubuntu users.  When I've discussed this matter a year ago with channel operator I've actually had some grand plans like creating #ubuntu-pl-chat for all "oldtimers" to chat about Arch Linux and other topics that aren't related to Ubuntu and start or "fighting" with all trolls and people who harass others. Owner's anwer (backed by the most active operator at that time) was that a) there is nothing that can be done about trolls
[11:14] <kklimonda> because they keep changing their nicks and b) no reason to create another channel for offtopic discussion because old users are important and why should they change channel.
[11:20] <kklimonda> fast forward one year and now I don't care about offtopic discussions anymore but we still have users harassing other users and normal trolls who are, well, just trolling. Also we have only two people who are on channel access list and their response time is really slow (actually I couldn't get in touch with them for the last 4 days). I've send another email to the channel owner but even if he takes some action the damage has alrea
[11:20] <kklimonda> dy be done. There aren't many people left on the channel who actively help others, there is still a possibility that if we start banning those more burdensome users they start fighting us back (with shells and registered names - I've been told that it was the case in the past).
[11:21] <kklimonda> So I guess my question is - how to deal with people who are constantly harassing others and use various means to do that?
[11:21] <kklimonda> s/to do that/to avoid being banned/
[11:21] <jussi01> kklimonda: hi
[11:27] <kklimonda> hey jussi01
[11:28] <jussi01> kklimonda: as a non operator you can catalyse (http://freenode.net/catalysts.shtml) however, if there is a problem with the code of conduct not being followed, and the operators and founder of the channel have been consulted but are not acting, then you need to take it to the ircc directly.
[11:29] <jussi01> kklimonda: the ircc has its own channel if you need immediate help (#ubuntu-irc-council) or if it is a long term situation then its better you send us an email.
[11:29] <jussi01> !ircc
[11:32] <kklimonda> jussi01, ok, thanks - I'm going to see what response I get from channel owner and act on it.
[11:34] <jussi01> kklimonda: but please just remind him or her that all ubuntu channels need to follow the CoC. ALso, if the channel owner is contactable and helpful, adding the UbuntuIrcCouncil nick to the access list is recomended
[11:35] <jussi01> kklimonda: I would also really recomend creating #ubuntu-pl-offtopic - its not hard to do and will create a place where people can go just to chatter, allowing better support to happen. Many loco's do this already.
[11:39] <czajkowski> kklimonda: hope this helps, and if I can help on the other matters you know how to get a hold of me
[18:27]  * genii makes a fresh pot of coffee
[18:49] <Guest72990> hello
[19:05]  * charlie-tca thanks genii
[19:06] <genii> charlie-tca: Anytime :)