[00:01] <Darxus> Just started building.
[00:01] <Darxus> feniix: Hah.
[00:02] <Darxus> Oh, neat, all the ppas.
[00:03] <Darxus> Looks like 3,158 of them.
[04:32] <Darxus> feniix: My updated linux-bfs-bfq packages just finished building in my ppa.
[06:24] <tiger2wander> Hello everybody!
[06:25] <tiger2wander> Could you talk to me what new in Ubuntu Karmic kernel?
[06:26] <tiger2wander> My current version is: 2.6.31-14-generic #47
[08:53] <hyperair> is anyone here involved in the PM stack of the kernel?
[08:55] <hyperair> i've been trying out tuxonice for the past few days and have noted that tuxonice resumes *extremely* fast compared to uswsusp and the kernel method ubuntu uses. however, for some reason or other tuxonice won't get accepted in the mainline kernel.
[08:55] <hyperair> something i've noted however is that while tuxonice appears to take less time, it's mostly because uswsusp and the kernel method take ages to swap out stuff after resuming
[08:55] <hyperair> as in, it resumes for ~half a minute, and then it swaps out for another two to three minutes.
[08:57] <hyperair> so anyway, something i was thinking about was that if more pages are copied out of the swap during the resuming process instead of allowing it to all be swapped out later, it'd end up faster.
[08:58] <hyperair> or we could just have the tuxonice patch applied onto the ubuntu kernel and use that instead, since it appears to have support for usplash and works really fast (we're trying to get ubuntu to work faster after all)
[09:32] <AceLan> hyperair: hihi, I also using the tuxonice patch on karmic kernel, it's really good
[09:33] <hyperair> i was hesitant while i didn't compile kernels, but as long as i'm using PHC, i'll have to continue compiling kernels so i figured i might as well test out tuxonice =p
[09:34] <AceLan> hyperair: I have a tuxonice branch, if you would like to keep up with karmic, you can try to use my branch # http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=acelan/ubuntu-karmic.git;a=summary
[09:34] <hyperair> nah, i'm following the zen kernel
[09:34] <hyperair> but thanks anyway =)
[09:35] <hyperair> but i think it'd be really beneficial to ubuntu if we used the patch in ubuntu
[09:35] <AceLan> you can raise this issue on ubuntu kernel mailing list
[09:35] <hyperair> hmm maybe i should eh
[09:35] <AceLan> so that we can discuss this further
[09:35] <hyperair> are there any discussions i should know about before doign that, though?
[09:36] <hyperair> i mean when i was having my uswsusp vs kernel method arguments with some other ubuntu developers, it seemed as if it was discussed a lot already and for some reason or other (that i still don't understand) we're using the kernel method and no other
[09:37] <AceLan> I don't know if the kernel team discuss this issue before
[09:37] <hyperair> who's in charge of PM stuff anyway?
[09:38] <hyperair> when i was still poking around, i saw a bunch of random names, but no real team working on it
[09:38] <hyperair> and when it comes to hibernating/suspending issues, there really are a lot
[09:38] <hyperair> aside from hibernating being painfully slow by default
[09:39] <AceLan> I think Tim Gardner is in charge of karmic kernel now
[09:39] <AceLan> and after karmic released, Stefan Bader will take over it
[09:40] <hyperair> the kernel or suspend/hibernate or both?
[09:40] <AceLan> everything
[09:40] <hyperair> i see
[09:40] <AceLan> but I think it's too late to add tuxonice to karmic kernel
[09:40] <hyperair> yes, i understand that.
[09:40] <AceLan> maybe lucid
[09:41] <AceLan> the 10.10
[09:41] <AceLan> 10.4
[09:41] <AceLan> :p
[09:41] <hyperair> so there is a possibility then
[09:41] <hyperair> 10.04
[09:41] <AceLan> yes
[09:41] <AceLan> reise this issue early has more chance to add it
[09:41] <hyperair> alright
[09:42] <hyperair> if someone could raise it at some UDS or other it'd be awesome
[09:42] <hyperair> and since i'm at the other end of the world, i don't exactly feel up to dropping by uds
[09:42] <AceLan> please send an email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>, I'll followup add some comment
[09:43] <hyperair> sure
[09:43] <AceLan> I'll attend UDS and maybe make an demo to kernel team
[09:43] <hyperair> cool!
[09:43] <AceLan> but my English is not so good
[09:43] <hyperair> hmm
[09:44] <AceLan> so... I don't know if I could make enough attention
[09:46] <hyperair> it's worth a try imo
[09:46] <hyperair> =p
[09:46] <AceLan> sure, I'll try it
[09:49]  * AceLan &
[09:59] <hyperair> heh
[09:59] <hyperair> AceLan: i've just posted


[01:57] <jbicha_> hmm, I just sat down to take screenshots for the 12.04 docs, but then I just realized we never got the default wallpaper yet :(
[01:57] <jbicha_> yeah, that Docs Freeze won't be happening Thursday
[04:21] <bkerensa> jbicha_: I got the e-mail.... Do we have wiki to do list so we can track who is working on what?
[04:28] <jbicha_> bkerensa: hi, no but we do now :) http://pad.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-docs-todo
[04:30] <jbicha_> well & there's also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/Tasks but it's outdated
[04:30] <bkerensa> jbicha_: Also per your e-mail it does seem important that we have the new wallpaper soon for screens?
[04:31] <jbicha_> that's my opinion, but I'm sure it'll be a priority tomorrow now that I complained about it
[04:31] <bkerensa> jbicha_: I love how that works :)
[04:32] <bkerensa> jbicha_: I will go ahead and note stuff on the pad that I intend to work on
[04:32] <jbicha_> awesome, thanks
[04:32] <bkerensa> hopefully we can get this out the door soon after the scheduled freeze
[04:32] <bkerensa> jbicha_: am I submitting my merges for you to review?
[04:32] <jbicha_> I'll push a blog post as soon as I get an idea of how much time we have for contributions
[04:33] <jbicha_> you can propose merges against lp:ubuntu-docs or you can email patches to the docs list, whichever works better for you
[04:33] <bkerensa> k
[04:38] <bkerensa> jbicha_: is there any wysiwyg editor for mallard?
[04:39] <jbicha_> bkerensa: no, gedit works well
[04:39] <jbicha_> http://blogs.gnome.org/shaunm/files/2012/01/mallardcheatsheet.png
[04:40] <jbicha_> also, you might want to hang out in #docs on irc.gnome.org it's more active than this channel
[04:42] <jbicha_> that's a condensed version of http://projectmallard.org/
[04:43] <jbicha_> oh, actually there is an almost wysiwyg editor
[04:43] <jbicha_> yelp 3.3 now automatically refreshes pages when you save them
[04:44] <jbicha_> more like quick preview than wysiwyg I guess
[11:46] <peppe84> Hi. Italian team have revampet it's help portal. Are you interested in our asset? See example: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/www/legal.html
[15:55] <jbicha_> dpm: howdy
[15:58] <dpm> hey jbicha_, I was just replying to your last e-mail :)
[15:59] <jbicha_> oh ok
[16:00] <jbicha_> I did try looking for you on Monday but I guess you had the day off
[16:01] <dpm> yeah, it was bank holiday here
[16:06] <dpm> jbicha_, I'll ask the question on the mailing list too, but now that you're here and if you've got 5 mins for me: could you tell me, roughly, how will the docs change if you guys get an extra week? I'm trying to find out which pages might be subject to "soft freeze" as you mention, and in particular which Unity-related mallard pages might be added or modified
[16:14] <jbicha_> dpm: it depends on how much time we have, I don't think the translators should have less than 2 weeks
[16:15] <jbicha_> if we can use the LanguagePackTranslationDeadline instead, then there's a little bit of room to work with
[16:17] <dpm> jbicha_, yeah, I agree. On a conversation on #ubuntu-release, it seems that the release team would agree on that too. The only question is whether you guys could do the fetching of translations and upload by LanguagePackTranslationDeadline
[16:17] <jbicha_> this is a rough brainstrom I put together last night of some of the things that would be nice to have: http://pad.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-docs-todo
[16:18] <jbicha_> dpm: fetching translations and uploading isn't too complicated, is it?
[16:19] <dpm> wow, good work on the pad, that looks good!
[16:20] <dpm> I've added a note on translated screenshots
[16:20] <jbicha_> thanks, should have been doing this sooner, but Desktop team stuff is interesting to me too & has kept me busy
[16:20] <dpm> :)
[16:22] <dpm> jbicha_, fetching translations is not complicated at all, it's just not very automatic, as you need to request the export from Launchpad, wait for an e-mail with an url to download translations, and then ensure that they are put in the right places in the tree
[16:22] <dpm> as per the upload, I believe that for someone experienced in packaging it shouldn't be complex, either
[16:23] <dpm> wrt translations you just need to ensure that the translated docs are built from the .po files, but I guess this happens automatically during the build
[16:24] <jbicha_> ok, mdke usually handles that, but I'd like to learn more
[16:25] <jbicha_> the Docs team generally has been too busy to do much documenting of our own practices
[16:25] <dpm> I think there was some documentation about that on the wiki, but I'm not sure if it's up to date. Let me see if I can find it
[16:25] <jbicha_> like I use meld to merge from GNOME, but I think most people haven't even used meld
[16:26] <dpm> I do, meld is awesome!
[16:26] <dpm> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Translation
[16:27] <dpm> but it seems it's not yet been updated with Mallard info
[16:38] <jbicha_> dpm: oh, and also I've been wondering how easy it is to fix a typo without forcing translators to re-translate that string
[16:39] <dpm> jbicha_, it is possible, it just requires some extra work:
[16:40] <dpm> 1. Fix the typo on the docs
[16:40] <dpm> 2. Apply the same fix to the .pot file and all the .po files
[16:40] <dpm> 3. Upload
[16:44] <jbicha_> ok, I'll give that a try next time & just ping you if I get stuck
[16:48] <dpm> sure, just ping me any time
[17:06] <jbicha_> dpm: so if we froze docs on Tuesday, that should give 3 weeks to translators
[17:08] <jbicha_> maybe the following weekend we might make some more changes but submit a Doc Freeze Exception bug to go with it
[17:08] <jbicha_> which will give Release Team & Translators the chance to approve or reject
[17:09] <jbicha_> & that will be at the 2 week limit which I see as a hard deadline
[17:29] <dpm> jbicha_, right, 3 weeks would sound about right, assuming we're pushing the translation deadline too as discussed. I would keep the new freeze to be on a Thursday as usual, which should give you a couple of extra days
[17:32] <jbicha_> well, I'll be swamped next Tues-Thursday for the conference we're putting on (posscon.org)
[17:33] <jbicha_> & the nice thing about a Mon or Tues freeze is we can still make Beta 2
[21:17] <MrChrisDruif> Hi everyone, does anyone know what is already documented about LightDM?
[21:28] <bkerensa> MrChrisDruif: Have you grabbed the ubuntu-doc branch?
[21:28] <jbicha_> MrChrisDruif: ubuntu-help/C/shell-guest-session.page is all we got
[21:28] <jbicha_> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-docs/precise/view/head:/ubuntu-help/C/shell-guest-session.page
[21:29] <MrChrisDruif> bkerensa; nope
[21:29] <jbicha_> I think it needs a gsettings override to disable the guest session in 12.04
[21:30] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah probably, but I was looking for more user orientated docs
[21:30] <MrChrisDruif> Like "How do I switch to a different session"
[21:31] <MrChrisDruif> help.ubuntu.com kind of stuff ^_^
[21:31] <jbicha_> MrChrisDruif: are you looking for help or are you looking to help? :)
[21:32] <MrChrisDruif> I am looking for help ;-)
[21:36] <jbicha_> MrChrisDruif: you just click the little icon next to your name to switch sessions
[21:36] <jbicha_> anyway, I've got to go
[21:37] <MrChrisDruif> TTYL jbicha_
[23:15] <skaet> Hi everyone,  was looking at schedules trying to jugging things for the requested Documentation Freeze Exception and found: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/ReleaseSchedule,  which is a little out of date right now ;).   Would anyone mind if I go and update it to what we're looking at in Precise right now?  or does someone want to volunteer to take the first pass, and I'll add the tweaks in later?


[02:11] <KGB-0> mozjs pristine-tar 30d369a Marco Trevisan (Treviño) mozjs91_91.5.1.orig.tar.xz.delta mozjs91_91.5.1.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for mozjs91_91.5.1.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/lybV
[06:07] <jpnurmi> good morning
[06:40] <duflu> Hi jpnurmi
[06:41] <jpnurmi> hey duflu
[06:53] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:55] <jpnurmi> good morning oSoMoN
[06:56] <oSoMoN> hey jpnurmi
[06:57] <oSoMoN> jpnurmi, with your latest push the "where are you" page all LGTM now, unless you wanted to try something else for the spurious search I say let's go ahead with it
[06:58] <oSoMoN> we can still file a bug to track this minor issue and tackle it later on
[06:58] <jpnurmi> oSoMoN I'm trying out the suggestion you had. it sounds promising
[07:04] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN
[07:09] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[07:09] <oSoMoN> jpnurmi, cool
[07:27] <jibel> Good morning
[07:30] <jpnurmi> hey jibel
[07:31] <oSoMoN> salut jibel
[07:31] <jibel> Hey jpnurmi oSoMoN
[07:53] <duflu> Hi jibel
[08:05] <didrocks> good morning
[08:07] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[08:07] <didrocks> hey duflu
[08:09] <jpnurmi> hey didrocks
[08:09] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[08:09] <seb128> hey didrocks duflu jpnurmi, how are you?
[08:11] <duflu> seb128, feeling good even if it is another stop-start day. How are you?
[08:11] <seb128> duflu, I'm alright thanks!
[08:11] <jibel> salut duflu didrocks seb128
[08:13] <seb128> lut jibel, en forme ?
[08:13] <jpnurmi> hey seb128
[08:14] <didrocks> hey jpnurmi, seb128 , jibel
[08:33] <jibel> seb128, en pleine forme
[09:04] <Nafallo> morning :-)
[09:14] <Nafallo> morning bouncy seb128 :-)
[09:14] <seb128> hey Nafallo!
[09:15] <Nafallo> ça va?
[09:25] <seb128> oui, et toi ?
[09:27] <Nafallo> ça va aussi. mal dormi pourtant.
[09:28] <Nafallo> got a neighbour with an alarm that he/she snooze between 2-2:30am... it triggers my tinnitus :-/
[09:32] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks, seb128
[09:32] <oSoMoN> good morning Nafallo
[09:40] <duflu> Morning Nafallo
[09:47] <seb128> lut oSoMoN
[13:01] <jbicha> good morning
[13:21] <oSoMoN> hey jbicha
[13:38] <Nafallo> hi jbicha :-)
[13:51] <KGB-1> gsettings-desktop-schemas signed tags 98a9623 Jeremy Bicha upstream/42_alpha * Upstream version 42~alpha * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gsettings-desktop-schemas/tags/upstream/42_alpha
[13:51] <KGB-1> gsettings-desktop-schemas upstream/latest e702efe Jeremy Bicha * pushed 23 commits (first 5 follow) * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gsettings-desktop-schemas/compare/ba3701c...e702efe
[13:51] <KGB-1> gsettings-desktop-schemas upstream/latest 3bd5e5b Hugo Carvalho po/pt.po * Update Portuguese translation * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gsettings-desktop-schemas/-/commit/3bd5e5b
[13:51] <KGB-1> gsettings-desktop-schemas upstream/latest 57909ab Quentin PAGÈS po/oc.po * Update Occitan translation * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gsettings-desktop-schemas/-/commit/57909ab
[13:51] <KGB-1> gsettings-desktop-schemas upstream/latest 951d77b Yaron Shahrabani po/he.po * Update Hebrew translation * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gsettings-desktop-schemas/-/commit/951d77b
[13:52] <KGB-1> gsettings-desktop-schemas upstream/latest f5f01f6 Goran Vidović po/hr.po * Update Croatian translation * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gsettings-desktop-schemas/-/commit/f5f01f6
[13:52] <KGB-1> gsettings-desktop-schemas upstream/latest 51439a6 Goran Vidović po/hr.po * Update Croatian translation * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gsettings-desktop-schemas/-/commit/51439a6
[13:52] <KGB-1> gsettings-desktop-schemas pristine-tar a6303da Jeremy Bicha gsettings-desktop-schemas_42~alpha.orig.tar.xz.delta gsettings-desktop-schemas_42~alpha.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gsettings-desktop-schemas_42~alpha.orig.tar.xz * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gsettings-desktop-schemas/-/commit/a6303da
[13:56] <KGB-1> gsettings-desktop-schemas ubuntu/master 1437d45 Jeremy Bicha * pushed 32 commits (first 5 follow) * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gsettings-desktop-schemas/compare/bef3f93...1437d45
[13:56] <KGB-1> gsettings-desktop-schemas ubuntu/master 6f245ac Fran Dieguez po/gl.po * Update Galician translation * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gsettings-desktop-schemas/-/commit/6f245ac
[13:56] <KGB-1> gsettings-desktop-schemas ubuntu/master b6eaad6 Fabio Tomat po/fur.po * Update Friulian translation * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gsettings-desktop-schemas/-/commit/b6eaad6
[13:56] <KGB-1> gsettings-desktop-schemas ubuntu/master 0d56166 Daniel Mustieles po/es.po * Updated Spanish translation * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gsettings-desktop-schemas/-/commit/0d56166
[13:56] <KGB-1> gsettings-desktop-schemas ubuntu/master 543647f Goran Vidović po/hr.po * Update Croatian translation * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gsettings-desktop-schemas/-/commit/543647f
[13:56] <KGB-1> gsettings-desktop-schemas ubuntu/master 2fb83cb Aleksandr Melman po/ru.po * Update Russian translation * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gsettings-desktop-schemas/-/commit/2fb83cb
[13:56] <KGB-1> gsettings-desktop-schemas signed tags 2cf3e8a Jeremy Bicha ubuntu/42_alpha-1ubuntu1 * gsettings-desktop-schemas 42~alpha-1ubuntu1 * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gsettings-desktop-schemas/tags/ubuntu/42_alpha-1ubuntu1
[14:16] <ricotz> hello desktopers!
[14:17] <oSoMoN> hey ricotz
[14:32] <ricotz> ginggs, hi, I can try to have a look at some packages to move the python 3.10 transition forward
[14:43] <ricotz> ginggs, https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+sourcepub/13234475/+listing-archive-extra
[14:47] <seb128> jbicha, hey
[14:47] <seb128> jbicha, I did the gstreamer syncs if you want to do the merges for plugins next
[14:47] <seb128> jbicha, also I saw you rebuilt webkit2gtk for libwebp but I think the armhf test regression is real so we have to fix it somehow
[14:49] <jbicha> ok
[14:58] <ricotz> hello seb128 jbicha
[14:59] <jbicha> hi ricotz
[15:02] <kenvandine> seb128: hey
[15:02] <kenvandine> seb128: nevermind :)
[16:02] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop signed tags 813b6fe Jeremy Bicha upstream/41.3 * Upstream version 41.3 * https://deb.li/5NHF
[16:02] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop upstream/latest 0060914 Javier Jardón NEWS meson.build * 41.3 * https://deb.li/3nl51
[16:03] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop upstream/latest 7d1f463 Jeremy Bicha NEWS meson.build * New upstream version 41.3 * https://deb.li/cKQh
[16:03] <KGB-2> gnome-desktop pristine-tar 9138186 Jeremy Bicha gnome-desktop3_41.3.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-desktop3_41.3.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-desktop3_41.3.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/8WF
[17:28] <juliank> ok, I gotta debug this further, but it seems night light is not activated on a laptop's internal screen if it is off and then you turn it on *after* night light time
[17:28] <juliank> s/debug further/confirm this/
[17:29]  * juliank just opened his laptop and the display had the wrong color until he pulled out the docking cable :D
[18:25] <KGB-1> gnome-desktop signed tags 4bccc7d Jeremy Bicha upstream/42_alpha.1 * Upstream version 42~alpha.1 * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-desktop/tags/upstream/42_alpha.1
[18:25] <KGB-1> gnome-desktop upstream/latest 4172d5a Jeremy Bicha * pushed 36 commits (first 5 follow) * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-desktop/compare/7d1f463...4172d5a
[18:25] <KGB-1> gnome-desktop upstream/latest b8464ec Emmanuele Bassi libgnome-desktop/ meson.build ui-symbol.map * Add libgnome-desktop-ui-4 * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-desktop/-/commit/b8464ec
[18:25] <KGB-1> gnome-desktop upstream/latest bd7426d Emmanuele Bassi libgnome-desktop/gnome-rr-private.h * Remove unused GnomeRRScreenPrivate field * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-desktop/-/commit/bd7426d
[18:25] <KGB-1> gnome-desktop upstream/latest 7c95b7b Emmanuele Bassi libgnome-desktop/meson.build * build: Split libgnome-desktop-ui-4 into two * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-desktop/-/commit/7c95b7b
[18:26] <KGB-1> gnome-desktop upstream/latest c2c7414 Emmanuele Bassi (19 files in 4 dirs) * Port gnome-bg and gnome-rr to GTK4 * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-desktop/-/commit/c2c7414
[18:26] <KGB-1> gnome-desktop upstream/latest 5ea55a8 Emmanuele Bassi libgnome-desktop/meson.build meson.build meson_options.txt * Enable optional building of GTK4 libraries * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-desktop/-/commit/5ea55a8
[18:26] <KGB-1> gnome-desktop pristine-tar de17f77 Jeremy Bicha gnome-desktop_42~alpha.1.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-desktop_42~alpha.1.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-desktop_42~alpha.1.orig.tar.xz * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-desktop/-/commit/de17f77
[19:09] <ginggs> ricotz: thanks, unbound lgtm, do you want to go ahead?
[21:24] <ricotz> ginggs, please sponsor it, I don't have upload rights :)
[21:37] <KGB-2> GNOME / xdg-desktop-portal-gnome builds Sebastien Bacher * Build #2421353 (extract-source) stage: provisioning, status: created
[21:37] <KGB-2> GNOME / xdg-desktop-portal-gnome builds Sebastien Bacher * Build #2421354 (build) stage: build, status: created
[21:37] <KGB-2> GNOME / xdg-desktop-portal-gnome builds Sebastien Bacher * Build #2421355 (build i386) stage: build, status: created
[21:37] <KGB-2> GNOME / xdg-desktop-portal-gnome builds Sebastien Bacher * Build #2421356 (build source) stage: build, status: created
[21:37] <KGB-2> GNOME / xdg-desktop-portal-gnome builds Sebastien Bacher * Build #2421357 (test-build-any) stage: test, status: created
[21:38] <KGB-2> GNOME / xdg-desktop-portal-gnome builds Sebastien Bacher * Build #2421358 (test-build-all) stage: test, status: created
[21:38] <KGB-2> xdg-desktop-portal-gnome pipeline Sebastien Bacher 343411 * pending (build: created; build i386: created; test-build-any: created; test-build-all: created; reprotest: created; lintian: created; autopkgtest: created; blhc: created; extract-source: pending; piuparts: created; test-crossbuild-arm64: created; build source: created)
[21:38] <KGB-2> GNOME / xdg-desktop-portal-gnome builds Sebastien Bacher * Build #2421359 (test-crossbuild-arm64) stage: test, status: created
[21:38] <KGB-2> GNOME / xdg-desktop-portal-gnome builds Sebastien Bacher * Build #2421360 (reprotest) stage: test, status: created
[21:38] <KGB-2> GNOME / xdg-desktop-portal-gnome builds Sebastien Bacher * Build #2421361 (lintian) stage: test, status: created
[21:39] <KGB-2> GNOME / xdg-desktop-portal-gnome builds Sebastien Bacher * Build #2421362 (autopkgtest) stage: test, status: created
[21:39] <KGB-2> GNOME / xdg-desktop-portal-gnome builds Sebastien Bacher * Build #2421363 (blhc) stage: test, status: created
[21:39] <KGB-2> GNOME / xdg-desktop-portal-gnome builds Sebastien Bacher * Build #2421364 (piuparts) stage: test, status: created
[21:39] <KGB-2> GNOME / xdg-desktop-portal-gnome builds Sebastien Bacher * Build #2421353 (extract-source) stage: provisioning, status: running. Duration: no time
[21:39] <KGB-2> xdg-desktop-portal-gnome pipeline Sebastien Bacher 343411 * running (extract-source: running; build: created; build i386: created; test-build-any: created; test-build-all: created; reprotest: created; lintian: created; autopkgtest: created; blhc: created; piuparts: created; test-crossbuild-arm64: created; build source: created)
[21:39] <KGB-2> GNOME / xdg-desktop-portal-gnome builds Sebastien Bacher * Build #2421353 (extract-source) stage: provisioning, status: success. Duration: 1 minute and 28 seconds
[21:40] <KGB-2> GNOME / xdg-desktop-portal-gnome builds Sebastien Bacher * Build #2421354 (build) stage: build, status: running. Duration: no time
[21:40] <KGB-2> GNOME / xdg-desktop-portal-gnome builds Sebastien Bacher * Build #2421355 (build i386) stage: build, status: running. Duration: no time
[21:40] <KGB-2> GNOME / xdg-desktop-portal-gnome builds Sebastien Bacher * Build #2421356 (build source) stage: build, status: running. Duration: no time
[21:46] <KGB-0> xdg-desktop-portal-gnome pipeline Sebastien Bacher 343411 * [8 minutes and 40 seconds] failed (piuparts: success; reprotest: success; autopkgtest: success; test-build-any: success; lintian: failed; test-crossbuild-arm64: failed; blhc: success; test-build-all: success; build i386: success; build: success; build source: success; extract-source: success)
[22:21] <ginggs> ricotz: ack, will look in the morning :)


[04:14] <KGB-0> gnome-shell signed tags 37e8339 Marco Trevisan ubuntu/41.3-1ubuntu1 * gnome-shell Debian release 41.3-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/3D4B7
[04:14] <KGB-0> gnome-shell ubuntu/master ae770b8 Marco Trevisan * pushed 407 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/VNfU
[04:14] <KGB-0> gnome-shell ubuntu/master fd31c1e Daniel van Vugt js/ui/windowManager.js * windowManager: Use one consistent animation mode for minimize/unminimize * https://deb.li/3TK3F
[04:14] <KGB-0> gnome-shell ubuntu/master 496d83f Florian Müllner subprojects/extensions-app/data/org.gnome.Extensions.desktop.in.in * extensions-app: Start as service when D-Bus activated * https://deb.li/LKri
[04:14] <KGB-0> gnome-shell ubuntu/master 7d75a94 kyte js/ui/unlockDialog.js * lockScreen: Don't wake up screen in DND mode * https://deb.li/3qmTh
[04:14] <KGB-0> gnome-shell ubuntu/master f76079a Sebastian Keller js/ui/messageTray.js * messageTray: Close SHOWING banner when its notification is destroyed * https://deb.li/3iLY2
[04:14] <KGB-0> gnome-shell ubuntu/master 7012d08 Nate Graham src/shell-app.c * shell/app: Honor XDG SingleMainWindow key * https://deb.li/i2NOC
[07:03] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:06] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN
[07:09] <jibel> hi all
[07:15] <duflu> Hi jibel
[07:20] <oSoMoN> hey duflu, salut jibel
[07:31] <jibel> Hi duflu oSoMoN
[07:44] <duflu> \o/ gnome-shell 41 arrives in jammy
[07:45] <duflu> Long live gnome-shell 42
[07:49] <duflu> juergh, waveform, is there an ETA on the next raspi kernel?
[07:53] <seb128> goood morning desktopers!
[07:59] <duflu> Morning seb128
[08:01] <duflu> juergh, waveform, I mean for jammy
[08:07] <didrocks> good morning
[08:08] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[08:09] <didrocks> hey duflu
[08:12] <jpnurmi> hey all, good morning
[08:12] <duflu> Hi jpnurmi
[08:13] <didrocks> hey jpnurmi
[08:24] <jpnurmi> hey duflu and didrocks
[08:30] <oSoMoN> salut seb128, didrocks, good morning jpnurmi
[08:32] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[08:52] <seb128> hey duflu didrocks jpnurmi, how are you?
[08:52] <seb128> lut oSoMoN
[08:54] <didrocks> hey seb128, good, and you?
[08:55] <duflu> seb128, good now. Just got over an 18h headache during which I had to host an interview. And the holiday was productive - fixed bathroom taps and two laptops. You, seb128?
[09:01] <jpnurmi> hey oSoMoN and seb128
[10:01] <waveform> duflu, I'd heard it should be sometime next week but I'm sure juergh will correct me!
[10:06] <juergh> waveform, duflu working on it. should land in proposed next week.
[10:12] <duflu> Surprisingly I'm finding the impish kernel improves performance a bit (as well as avoiding the KMS crash)
[10:12] <duflu> Let's hope that trend continues in jammy
[10:17] <seb128> I'm alright thanks, but sidetracked today as the kid class is closed due to a sick teacher...
[10:18] <juergh> why does that surprise you? newer is better, no? ;-)
[10:19] <duflu> seb128, :(
[16:13] <KGB-1> glib pristine-tar bebba6b Simon McVittie glib2.0_2.71.1.orig.tar.xz.delta glib2.0_2.71.1.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for glib2.0_2.71.1.orig.tar.xz * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/glib/-/commit/bebba6b
[16:13] <KGB-1> glib upstream/latest a0501b2 Simon McVittie * pushed 164 commits (first 5 follow) * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/glib/compare/aa505dc...a0501b2
[16:13] <KGB-1> glib upstream/latest 2e4eccb Rafael Fontenelle po/pt_BR.po * Update Brazilian Portuguese translation * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/glib/-/commit/2e4eccb
[16:14] <KGB-1> glib upstream/latest 4d97fef Leônidas Araújo po/pt_BR.po * Update Brazilian Portuguese translation * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/glib/-/commit/4d97fef
[16:14] <KGB-1> glib upstream/latest 78dc1cc Christoph Niethammer glib/gutils.c * gutils: Fix g_find_program_in_path() to return an absolute path * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/glib/-/commit/78dc1cc
[16:14] <KGB-1> glib upstream/latest 7f2de9a Sebastian Dröge gio/meson.build * Merge branch 'fix-windows-pc' into 'main' * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/glib/-/commit/7f2de9a
[16:14] <KGB-1> glib upstream/latest 6ec4323 Loic Le Page gio/gdbusauthmechanismsha1.c * Fix memory leak in gio/gdbusauthmechanismsha1.c * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/glib/-/commit/6ec4323
[16:14] <KGB-1> glib tags afb0e78 Simon McVittie upstream/2.71.1 * Upstream version 2.71.1 * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/glib/tags/upstream/2.71.1
[16:25] <KGB-1> glib-networking tags f3da99a Simon McVittie upstream/2.72_alpha * Upstream version 2.72~alpha * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/glib-networking/tags/upstream/2.72_alpha
[16:26] <KGB-1> glib-networking pristine-tar 50995c8 Simon McVittie glib-networking_2.72~alpha.orig.tar.xz.delta glib-networking_2.72~alpha.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for glib-networking_2.72~alpha.orig.tar.xz * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/glib-networking/-/commit/50995c8
[16:26] <KGB-1> glib-networking pristine-tar 1357ab8 Simon McVittie glib-networking_2.70.1.orig.tar.xz.delta glib-networking_2.70.1.orig.tar.xz.id * Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/pristine-tar' into pristine-tar * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/glib-networking/-/commit/1357ab8
[16:27] <KGB-1> glib-networking upstream/latest a1d4c34 Simon McVittie * pushed 43 commits (first 5 follow) * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/glib-networking/compare/4e64da7...a1d4c34
[16:27] <KGB-1> glib-networking upstream/latest ac2da76 Claude Paroz po/fr.po * Updated French translation * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/glib-networking/-/commit/ac2da76
[16:27] <KGB-1> glib-networking upstream/latest 5814695 Andika Triwidada po/id.po * Update Indonesian translation * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/glib-networking/-/commit/5814695
[16:27] <KGB-1> glib-networking upstream/latest 96979fa Daniel Șerbănescu po/ro.po * Update Romanian translation * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/glib-networking/-/commit/96979fa
[16:27] <KGB-1> glib-networking upstream/latest 87265cd Michael Catanzaro tls/openssl/ gtlsclientconnection-openssl.c gtlsdatabase-openssl.c * openssl: check for Must-Staple extension on server cert * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/glib-networking/-/commit/87265cd
[16:27] <KGB-1> glib-networking upstream/latest 9f848d4 Michael Catanzaro tls/tests/ (50 files in 3 dirs) * Update tests for OCSP stapling * https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/glib-networking/-/commit/9f848d4


[11:50] <Guest96> hello, i try to build binary debian package with debmake and debuild, project is using qmake build system, i override some dh commands in debian/rules, i cant figure out why my target executable not include in deb package (only some docs like copyright, etc)


[02:01] <philwhln> Hi! What's the support like now for wpa wifi cards on laptops? Tried getting my Dad's laptop working with wpa on 6.06, but just couldnt get it working. Is there any improvement in this area with 6.10?
[02:45] <pir4> hi, i have a problem with my ADMTek8511 USB Ethernet adaptor, anyone can help me plz ? it loads perfect but i cant get my dhcp internet working :)
[02:48] <philwhln> don't think anyone's at home pir4
[02:48] <philwhln> :S
[02:49] <pir4> i c
[02:49] <pir4> maybe you know something philwhln ?
[02:49] <pir4> i tried everything already
[02:49] <pir4> and beeing without internet is not fun as you should know :p
[02:50] <philwhln> yeah. my question was similar. don't know much about it I'm afraid
[02:51] <philwhln> i was wondering what the support was like for wpa wifi on 6.10. Couldnt get it work on 6.06
[02:51] <pir4> :P
[02:52] <pir4> it should work without any prob
[02:56] <philwhln> worked fine on my laptop, but need to know whether it's  worth installing it on my dad's laptop, because couldn't get wpa working with 6.06
[06:13] <desi> How do I fix this Please help http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28890/


[01:11] <bluesabre> ochosi, yup, that's pretty much what I am suggesting :D
[01:13] <bluesabre> ochosi, format is good, no confusion about what is printing what now :)
[02:42] <bluesabre> translations should work now for sgt-launcher
[02:42] <bluesabre> I think I'll keep the launcher as that, but the title of the app as "SGT Puzzles Collection", https://launchpad.net/sgt-launcher
[18:52] <ochosi> bluesabre: if you have so many good ideas, any suggestions as to what time format string to use then? :)
[20:23] <Unit193> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12916 \o/
[20:37] <bluesabre> ochosi, strftime has %X, "The preferred time representation for the current locale without the date."
[20:39] <bluesabre> ochosi, or %c, "The preferred date and time representation for the current locale."
[21:12] <knome> ochosi, +1 on bluesabre's suggestion
[21:28] <ochosi> bluesabre: right, that's an option, i think i still wanna keep the log using ISO 8601 though, so i'll have to reparse for the UI
[21:31] <bluesabre> sure, that's reasonable
[21:35] <ochosi> silly char -> gtimeval -> gdate -> strftime -> char hoops i'm jumping through...
[21:35] <ochosi> was considering to just use the g_date_set_parse shortcut
[21:35] <ochosi> but it seems a little meh
[21:36] <knome> :)
[21:45] <ochosi> bluesabre: have you checked the branch/code for other stuff like memleaks?
[21:46] <ochosi> btw, there's a bad part of logging which i think i won't be able to solve. some notifications are sent with pixbufs directly in the notification as a hint, and i have a hard time logging pixbufs...
[21:46] <ochosi> (well, to a text-file that is)
[21:50] <Unit193> asciiart with libcaca. >_>
[21:53] <ochosi> lol
[21:54] <knome> can you save them to a cache file, save the filename in the log, then call the cache file when the log is viewed?
[22:04] <ochosi> yeah, but that's silly
[22:04] <ochosi> i mean that means logging a lot of icons for no really good reason
[22:04] <knome> sure... but that logs it :P
[22:04] <knome> is sending pixmaps directly standard?
[22:04] <ochosi> yeah
[22:05] <knome> then i guess you should be able to log that
[22:05] <ochosi> even the preferred method iirc
[22:05] <knome> right
[22:05] <ochosi> not sure, that's just a convenience addon for the log imo
[22:05] <ochosi> mainly it should be functional and not eat your memory or hdd
[22:05] <knome> so they are the main icons?
[22:05] <knome> or something else?
[22:09] <ochosi> yeah, the main icons
[22:09] <ochosi> in theory the standard contains a secondary icon
[22:10] <ochosi> but whether and how this would be shown depends on the notification server
[22:10] <ochosi> (i know of no server with support for this, but maybe the gnome folks do that)
[22:19] <ochosi> odd, date parses out fine, time does not
[22:19] <ochosi> will have to debug that further some other da
[22:19] <ochosi> y
[22:22] <ochosi> oh crap. my parsing won't work for %H:%M as GDate only seems to support YMD
[22:27] <ochosi> bluesabre: %c seems a little much info, no? in my TZ/locale: Sam 22 Okt 2016 23:34:07 CEST
[22:30] <ochosi> anyway, in theory this re-parsing should also help with more sort methods or separators (like: yesterday, last week etc)
[22:30] <ochosi> night all
[22:37] <Unit193> The packages "tracker" will now target zesty. :P
[22:48] <knome> ochosi, actually i think %c is just good
[23:33] <Unit193> bluesabre: Pooooooke?
[23:41] <Unit193> bluesabre: I'm going to nuke Xenial from xfce4-gtk3.  Also, whiskermenu is in depwait for a fixed exo.
[23:47] <Unit193> Also I'd like to remove exo until it is fixed. :3