[08:50] <blazemore> kostas: Sounds like it's booting (almost) just fine! Can you boot to that point and then hit ctrl+alt+f3?
[08:50] <dr_willis_> karab44:  you can even use them while you are ssh'd in via putty
[08:50] <blazemore> kostas: Wait, cursor as in mouse cursor?
[08:50] <frustrated5623> But it is based on Ubuntu...
[08:50] <dr_willis_> putty -> ssh ->  tmux -> bash
[08:50] <karab44> dr_willis_: I wish to but not now. Just some tools dependency
[08:50] <blazemore> frustrated5623: It's not open to negotiation
[08:50] <dr_willis_> karab44:  ive not seen you really give a good reason why you are neeind to do this
[08:50] <kostas> blazemore: sorry my mistake, cursor as in the blinking pixel in the terminal
[08:50] <blazemore> kostas: Is this a fresh install?
[08:51] <frustrated5623> blazemore: Well, does it work on Ubuntu 13.04, then?
[08:51] <kostas> blazemore: as fresh as it gets
[08:51] <blazemore> frustrated5623: I don't know
[08:51] <dr_willis_> karab44:  type 'tmux' and poof you got a bash shell with a huge scrollback buffer.. done.
[08:51] <blazemore> kostas: Did you check the installation medium for errors before installing?
[08:52] <frustrated5623> Does Ubuntu 13.04 have a functional calendar program?
[08:52] <Antar> Hi everybody
[08:52] <blazemore> frustrated5623: It comes with Evolution which has a calendar. Others are available in the repositories
[08:52] <Antar> i am using ubuntu 12.04 and installed LXDE i want to  install google chrome
[08:53] <Antar> can anyone help me
[08:53] <blazemore> Antar: What have you tried?
[08:53] <cool_boy> nowayride, blazemore : http://pastie.org/8241513
[08:53] <MrEmerald> Anyone around?
[08:53] <blazemore> !anyone | MrEmerald
[08:53] <Antar> blazemore mean ?
[08:53] <MrEmerald> lol
[08:53] <cool_boy> before application was not running, i closed it
[08:53] <dr_willis_> Antar:  so install it> :)  it should work fine.. but chromium browser is in the dfault repos.
[08:53] <kostas> blazemore: not sure, in the beginning I could not get the flash drive to install ubuntu, and had to remake the usb stick bootable using the terminal
[08:53] <MrEmerald> So I had 12.04 installed on my windows 7 computer
[08:53] <blazemore> !details | what error do you get when you try to install it?
[08:53] <dr_willis_> !chrome
[08:54] <Antar> no i mean google chrome
[08:54] <blazemore> Antar: http://chrome.google.com
[08:54] <Antar> .deb file
[08:54] <blazemore> Antar: or apt://chromium-browser
[08:54] <dr_willis_> Antar:   and the problem is what exactly?
[08:54] <Antar> what is the diffrent chromium and chrome
[08:54] <blazemore> Antar: The thing is, I don't really understand what your question/problem is
[08:55] <blazemore> Antar: Chromium is a non-branded version of Chrome built from the open-cource codebase
[08:55] <dr_willis_> honestly i cant really recall noticeing any differance at ALL btween the 2 Antar  - i go thtem both installed
[08:55] <dr_willis_> the icons are differnt ;)
[08:55] <Antar> heh
[08:55] <Antar> whene i open the .deb file
[08:55] <blazemore> cool_boy: Looks like something is listening on port 9000 there
[08:56] <Antar> it told me that thereis no package called file
[08:56] <blazemore> Antar: Did you double-click it? Did it open in software centre?
[08:56] <MrEmerald> I recently bought a new one, and tried to factory reset my windows 7 so I could sell it, but the grub is still installed on the mbr. Now I don't have a repair disk, and I can't download one, is there a way I can fix this? on startup now, it gives me error: no such partition grub rescue>
[08:56] <Antar> Yeah
[08:57] <cool_boy> blazemore: that is my application but is not accessible from browser
[08:57] <blazemore> MrEmerald: If you want to remove Grub you have to install the Windows bootloader over the top of it, which you can do by using the Repair option from a Windows 7 installation DVD. This isn't something that's supported in this channel, but it's easy to do
[08:57] <cool_boy> seems is block for being access
[08:57] <cool_boy> seems is block for being accessed
[08:57] <blazemore> cool_boy: Is your hosting provider blocking the port?
[08:57] <MrEmerald> blazemore: I have no installation dvd, never came with the computer, nor can I get one :/
[08:57] <Antar> blazemore
[08:58] <blazemore> MrEmerald: You do need to get one
[08:58] <dr_willis_> Antar:  exactly what did you do with the .deb file ?
[08:58] <Antar> double click
[08:58] <blazemore> Antar: What exact error do you get, can you put it on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:58] <Antar> i will paste
[08:58] <MrEmerald> blazemore: I was coming here to see if there was ANY other way... ?
[08:58] <dr_willis_> Antar:  or you can use ''sudo gdebi whateverthedebiscalled.deb' and try to install it that way
[08:59] <blazemore> MrEmerald: It's not really an ubuntu support topic... try asking some Windows support channel
[08:59] <kostas> blazemore: I just used the same iso file and usb stick to install 12.04 in another machine. It worked fine, so unlikely to be an issue of the installation medium
[08:59] <nowayride> Okay weird.. my Ubuntu VM randomly decided to pick up a DHCP address and it was static up until now
[08:59] <MrEmerald> blazemore: Ok thanks :)
[08:59] <Antar> there isnt a software package called filein your current software center
[08:59] <dr_willis_> MrEmerald:  there used to be legally/free download of the windows restore disks..  #windows sholuld know where. i  saw them on  the lifehacker blog site once ages ago
[09:00] <dr_willis_> Antar:  what?
[09:00] <dr_willis_> Antar:   you downloaded what .deb exactly?  whats its full name.
[09:00] <MrEmerald> dr_willis_: Thanks :)
[09:00] <nowayride> Um... and syslog is slammed with request to eth0 from dhclient
[09:00] <Antar> google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb
[09:00] <dr_willis_> Antar:  and you are using a 32bit ubuntu and not the 64bit?
[09:01] <Antar> Exactly
[09:01] <karab44> putty seems to face my requirements... Anyway thanky you genlemen for your great contribution.
[09:01] <dr_willis_> Antar:  the command 'sudo dpkg -i /the/path/to/google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb'   should install it
[09:03] <Antar> dr_willis sudo dpkg -i /the/path/to/google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb
[09:03] <dr_willis_> Antar:  you do realize that was an example path?
[09:03] <Antar> dr_willis Errors were encountered while processing:  google-chrome-stable
[09:03] <dr_willis_> so you did use the proper path?
[09:03] <blazemore> Antar: "sudo apt-get -f install"
[09:03] <Antar> Yeah
[09:03] <Antar> i ve did
[09:04] <nowayride> So um, why is dhcp slamming my Ubuntu VM's dhclient?
[09:04] <dr_willis_> Antar:  or install gdebi and do  'sudo gdebi  /the/path/google-yadda-yadda.deb'
[09:04] <nowayride> It's static, using an IP set for static assignment
[09:04] <Skizu> Hey, I've just enabled modrwrite via ap2en or w/e not working, I think I need to set AllowOverride to All
[09:04] <Skizu> Where do I do that
[09:04] <Antar> blazemore then
[09:05] <gbence> Skizu: .htaccess? vhost?
[09:05] <Antar> dr_willis
[09:06] <somsip> Skizu: I thought we did this already...
[09:06] <dr_willis_> Antar:  hmmm?
[09:06] <blazemore> Antar: sudo dpkg -i ~/Downloads/google-chrome*deb
[09:06] <Antar> ok but it is on /tmp
[09:07] <Skizu> somsip: Doing it 1 more time to see how far I get :P
[09:07] <Skizu> somsip: I got everything but can't remember how to do this fully
[09:07] <somsip> Skizu: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/08/14/%23ubuntu.txt
[09:07] <Antar> blazemore the same Errors were encountered while processing:  google-chrome-stable
[09:08] <somsip> Skizu: 09:52
[09:08] <dr_willis_> Antar:  pastebin the errors.
[09:08] <blazemore> Antar: Can you please post the *full* error message (ALL output) onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:08] <Skizu> somsip: Thanks
[09:08] <dr_willis_> Antar:  and you may want to try it with gdebi instead of 'dpkg -i''
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Antar: tried:  sudo apt-get -f install     now?
[09:09] <Antar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5992070/
[09:09] <blazemore> Antar: sudo apt-get -f install will fix
[09:09] <xmetal> wonder if they run a package manager (synaptic, if there are (not related to chrome) broken packages
[09:09] <xmetal> hmm
[09:09] <Antar> dr_willis gdebi syntax
[09:10] <xmetal> like chrome will not install until those packages are fixed or something
[09:10] <xmetal> <~~ guessing
[09:10] <blazemore> xmetal: You're right, and sudo apt-get -f install will fix it
[09:10] <dr_willis_> Antar:  or you can use ''sudo gdebi whateverthedebiscalled.deb' and try to install it that way
[09:11] <bekks> gksudo, not sudo.
[09:11] <dr_willis_> gdebi does not need gksudo. ;)
[09:11] <dr_willis_> its a cli app
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> could just add the PPA manually then apt-get as usual :)
[09:12] <bekks> I thought it had a tiny little gui :)
[09:12] <Antar> gdebi not installed
[09:12] <dr_willis_> bekks:  thatd gdebi-gtk
[09:12] <bekks> dr_willis_: AH, thank you :)
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Antar: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[09:12] <dr_willis_> so...   install it?
[09:12] <Antar> Ubuntu 11.10 \n \l
[09:13] <dr_willis_> !11.10
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Antar: not supported anymore
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Antar: Oneiric is EOL
[09:13] <dr_willis_> 'its dead jim!'
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis_: 'but he doesn't know it'
[09:13] <dr_willis_> 'you can not change the laws of physics!'
[09:14] <xmetal> adam savage "i reject your reality and subsitute my own"
[09:14] <Antar> so it is not supported
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> Antar: yes the release died a while back
[09:14] <dr_willis_> time to upgrade..
[09:14] <xmetal> lol i am so tired i cant even remember what the question was
[09:15] <Antar> so i have 12.10 iso
[09:15] <dr_willis_> xmetal:  'the myth of  tech support at 4 am!'
[09:15] <Antar> can i upgrade using the iso file
[09:15] <dr_willis_> Antar:  you upgrade from lts to lts. releases.. OR from each non-lts to the next in line...
[09:15] <xmetal> there is tech support at 4 am ... just dont get angry if its not "good tech support" :P
[09:15] <xmetal> techs need sleep to ya know
[09:15] <dr_willis_> for 11.10 -> 12.04  then -> 12.10.. then  on up
[09:16] <Antar> ok
[09:16] <dr_willis_> i would think a clean install would be faster
[09:16] <dr_willis_> and 13.04 is out now also. ;P
[09:16] <Antar> i have 12.04 iso
[09:16] <dr_willis_> so i dont see why you would use 12.10
[09:16] <xmetal> going from 11.10 to 12.04 to 12.10 to 13.04 seems strange
[09:16] <xmetal> i'd just clean install the latest
[09:16] <dr_willis_> if you mount the 12.04 iso  it may ask to upgrade
[09:16] <dr_willis_> but clean install would be best..
[09:16] <Antar> can i upgrade from iso file
[09:17] <xmetal> if its only one "version" .. than an upgrade would be ok
[09:17] <dr_willis_> if you mount the 12.04 iso  it may ask to upgrade
[09:17] <Antar> mm ok
[09:17] <dr_willis_> i forget then that feature got enabled in ubuntu ;)
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> I'd go for the LTS (12.04) it is supported long after even 13.10 is EOL
[09:18] <Antar> what about 12.04.2
[09:18] <gbence> Antar: it rox
[09:19] <[[thufir]]> I can't get any sensors detected.  does my hardware somehow not have a cputemp thermostat?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5992101/
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> Antar: same, i just has newer updates to reduce package updates on clean installs
[09:19] <Antar> rox :) ?
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> Antar: its a file manager (and other things) :)
[09:19] <Antar> ok ok
[09:19] <z820> exit
[09:20] <Antar> mount cmd ?
[09:20] <hansp> root@Techno: # cp /media/hansp/Iomega_HDD /www/private/  /var/www/ - Why will this not work? :S
[09:21] <blazemore> hansp: Because cp only takes two arguments and you gave it three
[09:21] <Antar> how can i mount it
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> hansp: what is Iomega_HDD?
[09:22] <hansp> ActionParsnip,  my external HDD
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> hansp: so it's a folder?
[09:22] <hansp> yes
[09:23] <dr_willis_> cp /path/to/foo  /path/to/bar
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> then you will want:  cp -r /media/hansp/Iomega_HDD/* /var/www
[09:23] <RobCWDud1ey> cp -r /path/to/src /path/to/dest
[09:24] <mariachi> I just installed ubuntu 13.04 and then steam and its suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuper slow... it's using 104% of my cpu (AMD X3).  Both Noveau and prop Nvidia drivers have been tried. Anyone experiened this? google search wasnt very helpful. Everyhting else is normal
[09:24] <hansp> This worked, thanks !
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> mariachi: if you run:   sudo lshw -C display; sudo dmidecode -t 1    what is output?
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> mariachi: use a pastebin to hold the output
[09:25] <frustrated5623> Does anyone know how to disable this annoying window in Thunderbird? http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-08-16_12_17_24-E7oZdlqI.png
[09:25] <frustrated5623> It keeps popping up every single time I start it.
[09:25] <blazemore> frustrated5623: Click "I think I'll configure my account later"
[09:25] <blazemore> frustrated5623: Nice theme btw... ;)
[09:25] <hansp> But now another problem appeared. When i try to open my new folder in /var/www/ i get "This location could not be displayed. Permissions blabla" But im logged in as root in terminal.. :S
[09:26] <frustrated5623> blazemore: I did that, but it doesn't help. :(
[09:26] <blazemore> hansp: It says "blabla" ?
[09:26] <sid418> i recently got bluetooth chip and works fine for xp , but how can i setup in ubuntu 12.10
[09:26] <blazemore> !bluetooth | sid418
[09:26] <blazemore> hansp: What is the exact error, and what exactly do you do to produce it?
[09:26] <dr_willis_> hansp:  just beause its your system.. dosent mean your user has full rigths to access everything.
[09:27] <hansp> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of. I Get this when i try to open a folder that Root is owning
[09:27] <dr_willis_> hansp:  its not owned by your user.
[09:27] <mariachi> ActionParsnip,  http://pastebin.com/xwAGkj6K     and     http://pastebin.com/sJE8A4LE
[09:28] <sid418> ubottu: link provided by u cannot conntains setup in ubuntu  12.10
[09:28] <blazemore> sid418: The instructions are still relevant
[09:29] <sid418> which one i follow either 10 or 11
[09:29] <blazemore> The latest.
[09:29] <denkerbror> Hello running ubuntu 14.4 on my laptop and I have problems with the touchpad. When I use the touchpad and clicks the courser just randomly fly over thr screen
[09:29] <denkerbror> anyone know how to fix?=
[09:29] <denkerbror> 12.4*
[09:30] <blazemore> denkerbror: Does the system have a make and model?
[09:30] <DJones> denkerbror: There is no Ubuntu 14.4
[09:30] <denkerbror> yea, I know 12.4*
[09:31] <denkerbror> HP probook 4320S modell
[09:31] <Ben64> denkerbror: its 12.04, the next LTS is 14.04
[09:31] <denkerbror> yea, I know, jsut read
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> mariachi: how did you install the driver?
[09:33] <mariachi> ActionParsnip, I downloaded a deb from nvidia's launchpad
[09:33] <mariachi> (I'm new to ubuntu... I guess that was the wrong way to do it?)
[09:34] <Ben64> mariachi: yeah usually. ubuntu comes with nvidia drivers, it should have asked you if you wanted to activate them
[09:34] <mariachi> right... it didnt :S
[09:34] <Ben64> in which case you could install nvidia-current and the kernel headers and it should have worked
[09:35] <mariachi> ok I'll try uninstalling this and installing nvidia current
[09:35] <Ben64> you have to undo whatever you added
[09:36] <dr_willis_> nvidia has a launchpad?
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis_: maybe he means this? https://launchpad.net/nvidia-drivers-ubuntu
[09:40] <dr_willis_> well time for me to blastoff   ;P
[09:41] <dr_willis_> thunderbirds are go... bye all bbl.
[09:42] <sky_> Does anyone have any idea how to get java to work in Chromium 28.0
[09:42] <blazemore> sky_: Is there an entry for java in Chrome's about:plugins page?
[09:42] <blazemore> sky_: And do you have Java installed? What Ubuntu version?
[09:44] <sky_> I have java 1.8 installed. And in the chrome://plugins  Java 11.0.2 is enabled.
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> MartynKeigher2: all you needed to do was use the additional drivers app, or run:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:45] <blazemore> sky_:  sudo apt-get install icedtea-7-plugin; cd /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins; sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/IcedTeaPlugin.so
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> sky_: have you  tried the Webupd8 java ppa?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> sky_: gives you oracle java super easy
[09:51] <sky_> I have installed the Webupd8 ppa  java 1.8  and it works great with firefox and google chrome.  I'm trying to run Kies Air with my Samsung Galaxy S3 phone and the Chromium browser (which is the the one I prefer) keeps having java problems
[09:53] <xybre> How do I do a substring/fuzzy match of installed packages?
[09:53] <[[thufir]]> How can I get the cpu temp sensor working?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5992101/
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> xybre: dpkg -l | awk {'print $2'}       will show installed packages... is that what you mean?
[09:53] <xybre> something like `apt-cache search --installed blah` would give me "libblah-1.0.1"
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> xybre: you can then grep the text
[09:55] <xybre> Yeah I just thought that seemed really inefficient, so I wondered if there was a better way.
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> xybre: apt-cache policy packagename
[09:58] <xybre> ActionParsnip: Hmm, interesting. Doesn't do substring matching though.
[09:58] <MuhQ> Hi guys, i got following cups error message: "[Job 98] Unable to convert file 0 to printable format!". Have anyone a suggestions what to do? :)
[09:59] <denkerbror> crap, what do I do if my thoucpad driver from hp is for 32 bit system and I am running 64 bit?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> MuhQ: what are you printing from?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: the default driver should work
[09:59] <MuhQ> XML Data from a HP-UX server via lpd to cups
[10:03] <ryan0123> everytime I boot my laptop, I receive an internal error(s), why is this happening?, Is it because ubuntu 13.04 is still new and has loads o bugs or what?, Can someone please help!
[10:04] <denkerbror> right now my coruser just randomly jumps ovet the screens when pressing
[10:04] <bekks> ryan0123: Click on details, and tell us :)
[10:04] <root__> 112
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> ryan0123: have you tested your RAM?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> ryan0123: is it a clean install of Raring?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> ryan0123: is the OS fully up to date?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[10:08] <ryan0123> can you speak simplier terms, i don't understand this ubuntu jagon sorry!
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> ryan0123: did you have Ubuntu 12.10 before then upgrade to 13.04
[10:08] <blazemore> ryan0123: Which part of that was unclear?
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> ryan0123: can you explain what your error says exactly?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> ryan0123: or did you install 13.04 from CD
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> ryan0123: its not jargon at all
[10:09] <ryan0123> I install ubuntu 13.04 from usb
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: have you tried the Unity2D session which is selected from the login screen
[10:11] <msq> hello
[10:12] <msq> ..
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> msq: hi
[10:12] <kdu92> clear
[10:15] <ryan0123> Everytime I start my laptop and login, I get an error saying, "Ubuntu 13.04 has experienced an internal error". When I click "show details", please take a look: http://s23.postimg.org/j3d8siswb/Screenshot_from_2013_08_16_11_11_16.png
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> ryan0123: send the detail and keep the OS up to date
[10:16] <denkerbror> the coursor just randomly flys over the screen when pressing left button
[10:16] <blazemore> denkerbror: That sounds like a problem with the actual trackpad
[10:17] <denkerbror> working great in windows
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: are thereany bugs reported?
[10:17] <denkerbror> for my laptop in linux?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: windows is a completely different OS with diffrent support
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: yes
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: does the system have a make and model?
[10:17] <denkerbror> hp probook 4320s
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HP_ProBook_4320s#Clikpad_.28touchpad.29
[10:20] <denkerbror> okey will read that
[10:20] <[[thufir]]> how do you know whether the cpu thermometer is working?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5992101/
[10:21] <blazemore> [[thufir]]: Does the temperature it reports look about right?
[10:24] <denkerbror> a lot of work to get a touchpad working
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> [[thufir]]: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: poor support by the hardware manufacturer.
[10:25] <b0x> my touchpad works awesome
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: never had an issue, all works out of the box
[10:25] <denkerbror> fml
[10:25] <b0x> i'd like an easy toggle to disable it though
[10:25] <b0x> when using external mice
[10:25] <erchache2000> alternatives to gkrellm? i dont like conky...
[10:25] <denkerbror> they have drivers for the touchpad but only for 32-bit
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> denkerbror: the driver is in the default OS. It just needs better settings than the defaults
[10:27] <denkerbror> well I guess it's unusable than, just have to live with it
[10:27] <denkerbror> sucks for me
[10:27] <lotuspsychje> erchache2000: there's indicator-multiload for unity
[10:28] <Danny> hi all
[10:28] <Danny> i have a [problem
[10:28] <Danny> im runing linux mint 15 no sound
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> !mint | Danny
[10:28] <Danny> i pulg in head fones work not in bulit auido
[10:28] <Danny> yes mint
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> Danny: only ubuntu support here mate
[10:28] <Danny> linux mint 15
[10:29] <frustrated5623> Why such hostility against Mint? :(
[10:29] <Danny> i like mint
[10:29] <frustrated5623> +1
[10:29] <Danny> sound max auido
[10:29] <Danny> how do i get in bulit sound working
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> frustrated5623: they have seperate support channels, nothing to do with hostility
[10:29] <DJones> frustrated5623: Its not hostility, its just that its not a supported version of Ubuntu
[10:30] <OerHeks> Danny mint has its own issues, join the mint channel
[10:30] <Danny> some one helping me
[10:30] <frustrated5623> lotuspsychje, DJones, ok, I understand. :)
[10:30] <denkerbror> ye, problem is that the buttons works as moving the curosor
[10:31] <icreator> I try to install  ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso - bur on boot from USB see: "unknown keyword in config file"
[10:32] <erchache2000> lotuspsychje, im using gnome3
[10:33] <blazemore> icreator: Did you check the integrity of the liveUSB from the first boot menu?
[10:35] <erchache2000> i discover gnome shell extensions web XD
[10:35] <icreator> liveUSB?
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> icreator: can you explain how you put the ubuntu iso on the usb stick?
[10:37] <icreator> blazemore - i use  Startup Disk Creator
[10:38] <icreator> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> icreator  and where did you get the iso?
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> icreator: did you wipe the data on the stick?
[10:40] <icreator> here- http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> danielbw: Mint is not supported ni ANY of the Ubuntu support chanels. Its community is entirely separate to Ubuntus
[10:40] <shakyj> Hey, I'm installing xubuntu on my 3,2 mac book air. It works fine till I try get Nouveau working I tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir3-2/Raring#Install_NVIDIA_drivers but still getting hit by the black screen
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> danielbw: tab fail
[10:40] <icreator> I unbount USB stick and then start Disk Creator
[10:41] <k1l> ActionParsnip: he is already gone.
[10:41] <shakyj> I get hit by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-310/+bug/1159269
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> icreator: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141311/unknown-keyword-in-configuration-file-boot-error-when-booting-off-a-live-usb
[10:42] <[[thufir]]> blazemore: there's no temperature  sensor, apparently.  not detected by "sensors"
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> k1l: yeah saw :(
[10:43] <[[thufir]]> ActionParsnip: cat /etc/issue is Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l      so that's my version.  but how do I know whether there's an actual cpu thermometer?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> shakyj: tried   sudo nvidia-xconfig
[10:43] <shakyj> ActionParsnip, yeah, generated my xorg, still get the black screen on boot
[10:43] <icreator> lotuspsychje tankx
[10:44] <[[thufir]]> no cputemp sensor?  why not?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5992101/   Ubuntu 12.04LTS
[10:44] <Kaloz> Hi. Where could I find the exact kernel version+config files for the installer cd?
[10:45] <Kaloz> I'm trying to bisect what causes the 2013 macbook airs going foobar after the installed kernel (as they boot up with the one the installer is using)
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> Kaloz  mount a live cd or usb, so you can browse the iso
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> [[thufir]]: are there any bugs reported?
[10:45] <Dr_Willis_> or boot the live cd and see  what kernel its using
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> [[thufir]]: could try Saucy in liveCD, see if the newer kernel helps
[10:46] <Kaloz> MonkeyDust: tried that, but they seem to be the same, hence the question
[10:46] <Kaloz> newer kernels are actually worse
[10:46] <Kaloz> the raring release iso boots (has some issues, but those should be fixed upstream)
[10:47] <Kaloz> the installed kernel only boots with nosmp
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> Kaloz: why buy mac hardware then use anything but MacOS?
[10:47] <Kaloz> newer kernels only boot with nosmp nolapic acpi=off, but that shuts down the notebook in a few mins
[10:47] <Kaloz> ActionParsnip: haswell
[10:47] <Kaloz> ActionParsnip: and pcie ssd ;)
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Kaloz: pcie ssd isnt unique
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Kaloz: acer aspire s7 uses haswell, so again. Not unique
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Kaloz: as well as others
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Kaloz: you pay your mac tax for an OS which is customtweaked to run as well as possible on the hardware
[10:49] <Kaloz> ActionParsnip: not here, and not in the timeframe I had to get one ;)
[10:50] <rjknight1> Hello, may I ask how to use macmatch on iptables? http://www.firerack.com/devel/iptables_macmatch
[10:50] <rjknight1> and any examples.
[10:50] <Kaloz> ActionParsnip: and anyways, it's my time I'm spending on it to get it working for others as well.. I just need info to where to look for a start
[10:51] <Kaloz> ActionParsnip: it has to be a mainline issue, given 3.11-rc5 is broken, too
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> Kaloz  are you testing the new 3.10 kernel?
[10:54] <[[thufir]]> ActionParsnip: no bugs that I know of.  you mean in bugzilla for cputemp?
[10:55] <Kaloz> MonkeyDust: even 3.11-rc5 has mostly the same issues
[10:57] <rjknight1> Hello, may I ask how to use macmatch on iptables? http://www.firerack.com/devel/iptables_macmatch and any examples?
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> rjknight1: never used it before, what are you trying to achieve exactly?
[10:59] <rjknight1> @lotuspsychje: ip mac match filtering on iptables
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> !security | rjknight1 maybe something usefull here
[11:00] <neetz> I have dual OS ,  one is win7 and the other is ubuntu 12.10 , i suppose i have nvidea graphic card problem in ubuntu , i am not able to boot also in nomodeset mode
[11:00] <neetz> please haelp
[11:00] <neetz> help*
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> Kaloz  tip: any thing beyond what's in the repos, is not supported here
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> anything*
[11:00] <rjknight1> @lotuspsychje: I already did a macfiltering on iptables but i want it with ip add in it..
[11:00] <neetz> anyone who cna help me ?
[11:01] <neetz> I have dual OS ,  one is win7 and the other is ubuntu 12.10 , i suppose i have nvidea graphic card problem in ubuntu , i am not able to boot also in nomodeset
[11:01] <rjknight1> @lotuspsychje: anyway, thanks .
[11:02] <DJones> neetz: No need to repeat so quickly, just be patient, if you don't get a reply in about 10 minutes, then it would be worth repeating the question
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> rjknight1: that app is in dev folder on the site, did you download that?
[11:02] <Kaloz> MonkeyDust: the one the installer uses should be in the repo as well as the one the installed system uses. one works, the other doesn't. upstream is broken, too - that simple
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> Kaloz  should be, but isnt - that simple
[11:03] <hudini> hello guys
[11:03] <rjknight1> @lotuspsychje: not yet... I don't know how but I will know it by then.
[11:03] <neetz> Djones : can u provide me the solution
[11:04] <DJones> neetz: Sorry, no, I've not used nvidia for quite a while
[11:05] <neetz> Djones , I dont want any graphic card for my ubuntu , just want to work on ubuntu .. dont need any graphic card for ubuntu , is there any other way so that i can sucessfully boot
[11:06] <DJones> neetz: Sorry, no, I've not used nvidia for quite a while
[11:06] <DJones> neetz: Just be patient and ask the channel
[11:06] <neetz> ok , do you know any other chanels of ubuntu on free node
[11:07] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  what is your exact video card?
[11:07] <neetz> Nvidiea Geforce Gt 525M
[11:07] <neetz> @dr_wills
[11:07] <Dr_Willis_> no need to use the @ symbol on irc
[11:08] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  so your system does exactly what now when you try to boot it?
[11:09] <neetz> I get a purple screen followed by a black screen , i tried with no modeset but same result
[11:09] <Dr_Willis_> so have you  yet installed the nvidia drivers?
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> neetz: did you update-grub after nomodeset?
[11:09] <neetz> how do I ? if it doesnt boot
[11:09] <OerHeks> neetz, that GT525 is Optimus? ( dual gpu )
[11:10] <Dr_Willis_> you ARE booting.. its just not loading the X drivers correctrly/video drivers
[11:10] <Dr_Willis_> !text
[11:10] <Dr_Willis_> boot into text mode. install the nvidia-current package, is what i would do.    IS this one of those dual gpu systems?
[11:10] <neetz> I dont know is optimus
[11:11] <neetz> what is optimus*
[11:11] <Dr_Willis_> the dual gpu chipset solution thats common in many laptops
[11:11] <neetz> and yeah for that I need to connect it to internert , but i have a dongle
[11:11] <neetz> lets assume that i have that , then
[11:11] <Dr_Willis_> I have several usb wifi dongles.. that work out of the box ;)
[11:12] <Dr_Willis_> if you got optimus then you have a lot of extra work to do  - OR you mighjt be able to disable one of your video cards in the bios settings
[11:12] <Dr_Willis_> I dont use optimus. dont have any laptops withit. so no experience with it
[11:12] <neetz> :P but how can you connect it to internet through terminal ? is it possible
[11:12] <neetz> how
[11:12] <Dr_Willis_> IF you can get to text mode and have network working, You might be able to install the nvidia-current package and it may work
[11:12] <OerHeks> maybe this mage for 12.04lts also works for your situation >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/132112/how-to-install-nvidia-geforce-gt525m-driver-on-ubuntu12-04
[11:12] <OerHeks> c/mage/page
[11:13] <Dr_Willis_> theres cli tools to  enable the wifi networking.  or run a cable to the router for a few min.
[11:14] <neetz> if i boot with a livcd , I get a black terminal , saying ubuntu
[11:14] <neetz> ubuntu@ubuntu
[11:14] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|neetz,
[11:14] <neetz> what do i do next
[11:14] <cfhowlett> neetz, read the message above
[11:14] <neetz> ok
[11:15] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, neetz tried that, you missed it because you came in later
[11:15] <Dr_Willis_> those Dual GPU optmis stuff can really goof with things. Id look up your exact make/model  pc on the forums and askubuntu.com and see if it does in fact have Optimus
[11:15] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, d'oh!
[11:15] <cfhowlett> neetz, sorry.  I only just came and didn't know you already saw that
[11:15] <OerHeks> gforce 525, surely it is optimus
[11:16] <Dr_Willis_> you need to verify one way or the other that you Have  Optimius or not.
[11:16] <Dr_Willis_> double check the bios and perhaps it may have a option to disable the nvidia or intel card also.
[11:17] <y4h0> hey
[11:17] <neetz> I want to boot into a proper gui , so that i can use my dongle and install the drivers
[11:17] <neetz> but i cant even boot from livecd
[11:19] <neetz> @dr_wills , there ?
[11:19] <Dr_Willis_> You did try the nomodeset option at the live cd? how did you install if the live cd is not booting?
[11:20] <neetz> @dr_wills , I am using ubuntu since 1 year , but neva had problem like this , idk what happened suddenly
[11:20] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  stick to the facts about the current system
[11:21] <Dr_Willis_> are you saying that Ubuntu USED to work on this machine? or not?
[11:21] <neetz> yes
[11:21] <Dr_Willis_> so what release DID work?
[11:21] <Dr_Willis_> and when did it stop working
[11:21] <neetz> 12.10
[11:21] <neetz> until 5 days
[11:21] <neetz> back
[11:22] <cfhowlett> neetz, try booting an earlier kernel
[11:22] <Dr_Willis_> and what did you do right befor it stopped working?
[11:22] <cfhowlett> ?
[11:22] <Guest9219> hi how do i enable compiz's rain effect at startup?
[11:22] <neetz> @cfholett  tried that also , still not booting
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> !ccsm | Guest9219
[11:23] <neetz> probably , my win7 must have had a virus i guess
[11:23] <neetz> which damaged the nvidea or the kernel
[11:23] <cfhowlett> neetz, wait, is this a wubi install?
[11:23] <neetz> wubi ? I am sorry , I am a newbie to ubuntu ,
[11:24] <cfhowlett> neetz, windows installation of ubuntu also known as wubi.  How did you install ubuntu?
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> neetz  ubuntu has nothing to do with windows, unless you used wubi to install ubuntu inside windows
[11:25] <neetz> I created a seoerate parition for ubuntu and installed
[11:25] <neetz> not on vmvare or virtual box
[11:26] <Guest9219> MonkeyDust, i have ccsm installed but i've to enable the rain effect manually, i want it starts with the system's startup
[11:26] <neetz> @dr_wills , do you have a solution ?
[11:26] <OerHeks> Guest9219, compiz rain effects on startup/before login?
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> Guest9219  better ask in #compiz, then
[11:27] <OerHeks> Guest9219, not possible, AFAIK
[11:27] <neetz> @cfhowlett ?
[11:27] <Guest9219> MonkeyDust, ppl in #compiz r sleeping
[11:27] <Guest9219> thx
[11:28] <cfhowlett> neetz, so you have a normal dual boot.  I guess windows still runs OK then?
[11:28] <neetz> yea that brings me here :)
[11:28] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  so 12.10 worked.. but now the 12.10 live cd does not work?
[11:29] <neetz> @dr_wills yea because of the nvdia thing i guess
[11:30] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  but the 12.10 live cd was working when you installed earlier? did you change video cards or somthing?
[11:31] <neetz> no no , no hardware changes , it was working fine
[11:31] <Dr_Willis_> so lets recap.. you used a 12.10 live cd.. it installed  you ran it for a while.. system suddently acts up.. and now the same 12.10 live cd. No longer works either?
[11:32] <neetz> it was not a cd , it was a usb .. u call it  livecd  only , yea doesnt work now
[11:36] <neetz> ?
[11:36] <Dr_Willis_> well personally, id find/make a 13.04 live usb/cd and see if that works. if so. backup imporntant stuff, then do a clean install of 13.04
[11:36] <Guest9219> when i disable unity or without rain effect enabled, my window's shadow looks ugly [there is nobdy in #compiz]
[11:38] <Dr_Willis_> tweak the windows shadows settings/plugin or disable it perhaps?
[11:38] <neetz> @dr_wills , whats the pint ? does 13.04 support nvidiea graphics inbuit
[11:38] <Dr_Willis_> a lot of the old compiz plugins/eyecandy are slowly becomming obsolete and getting phased out
[11:39] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  no need to use @ and the nvidia drivers are aviable for all the releases.
[11:39] <Dr_Willis_> 13.04 works fine with my 3 nvidia systems
[11:39] <Dr_Willis_> but most of my cards are older nvidia cards
[11:39] <neetz> it was working on mine too before
[11:40] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  so that points to either a kernel/driver issue.. but you said old kernel did not work.. You also said the SAME usb worked once.. but not any more.
[11:40] <Dr_Willis_> that almost points to a hardware faliure.
[11:40] <Dr_Willis_> but its not conclusive
[11:40] <foo357_> Hello, I've setup 'unattended upgrades' and I've also set it to reboot if required. However no reboots are performed.
[11:40] <neetz> do you mean Nvidea has failed ?
[11:41] <Dr_Willis_> only reboots would be for kernel upgrades foo357_ , and the unattended upgrades may not be upgradeing those bcause the kernels can be 'held' untill you do a apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:41] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  its possible. Or your usb-flash is just goofy and not booting properly since its no longer working. and you said it used to work, and theres been no other hardware changes
[11:42] <neetz> can i disable my nvidea in bios ?
[11:42] <itDany83> salve
[11:42] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  no idea.. can you?
[11:42] <neetz> i have not tried
[11:42] <foo357_> Dr_Willis_: well the config file for unattended upgrades says "reboot if /var/run/reboot-required is found", the file exists and I would think that apt doesn't do a very complicated evaluation
[11:42] <itDany83> questo è il canale di ubuntu giusto
[11:42] <DJones> !it | itDany83
[11:43] <itDany83> Thanks
[11:44] <Dr_Willis_> foo357_:  a normal apt-get update, often does not update the kernels.  since they can break things.    that  is about the only time i can think of that a reboot would be required
[11:44] <Dr_Willis_> foo357_:  askubuntu.com may have a more definitive answer however.
[11:44] <neetz> can you tell em your email id , i will contact you for any ubuntu help
[11:45] <miya2> hi
[11:46] <Dr_Willis_> hello
[11:46] <neetz> @dr wills , can you provide me your email , sorry for using @ again
[11:46] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  no i will not.
[11:46] <Dr_Willis_> thats the point of this channel
[11:46] <simplex> hi, i've a problem booting ubuntu studio with lilo. what should i put on the config to get it work?
[11:47] <Dr_Willis_> neetz:  and if you use the TAB key it can auto complete the nicks
[11:47] <Dr_Willis_> !tab
[11:47] <miya2> what's the command for quitting a channel?
[11:47] <Dr_Willis_> simplex:  why would you want to use lilo?
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> miya2  /part
[11:47] <Dr_Willis_> miya2:  /part
[11:47] <miya2> thank ya
[11:47] <neetz> ok Dr_Willis_  THANKS
[11:48] <simplex> Dr_Willis_: because i've it installed and i don't want to change a bootloader because of ubuntu
[11:48] <neetz> Thanks Dr_Willis_
[11:48] <simplex> i just want to know if there's something particular that i need to put in the conf
[11:48] <Dr_Willis_> simplex:  how long have you been using lilo? grub2  and grub has been the default for years..
[11:49] <simplex> i use lilo from ages, i just installed ubuntu today
[11:49] <Dr_Willis_> simplex:  you may wnt to check at askubuntu.com its literlly been years+ (5+?) since ive had to touch lilo
[11:49] <Dr_Willis_> if you installed ubuntu, then why do you want to keep using lilo?  unless theres some Old system on that box.
[11:50] <simplex> i like the lilo slackware logo :)
[11:50] <Dr_Willis_> grub2 has more themeing features then lilo ever did.
[11:50] <Dr_Willis_> but it may not be enabled in the grub2 by default.
[11:51] <Guest9219> hi where do i upload the screenshot  ?
[11:51] <karab44> guys where can I reach help regarding to mailman?
[11:51] <karab44> just don't say that on postoffice
[11:51] <cfhowlett> !paste|Guest9219,
[11:51] <karab44> !mailman
[11:51] <Dr_Willis_> !info mailman
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> Guest9219  http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[11:52] <Dr_Willis_> it might have a homepage.. (for mailman) ive never heard of it befor
[11:52] <karab44> he knows nothin
[11:52] <simplex> Dr_Willis_: so, is here no way to make ubuntu boot with lilo?
[11:52] <Dr_Willis_> simplex:  no idea. I cant think of any reason to use lilo these days
[11:53] <simplex> k
[11:53] <Dr_Willis_> simplex:  i imagine its possible.. if you could read and understand the grub.cfg and convert it back to lilo syntax/options
[11:53] <Dr_Willis_> i dont see much to gain from the effort however.
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> simplex  any specific reason why you want to use lilo?
[11:54] <Dr_Willis_> askubuntu.com might have some clues on doing it.. or they may just laugh at you
[11:54] <Dr_Willis_> ;)
[11:54] <simplex> eheh
[11:55] <Dr_Willis_> at least you are not trying to use syslinux..
[11:56] <Dr_Willis_> actually syslinux may be easier.
[11:56] <Guest9219> without unity or rain effect  ,my desktop looks like this http://imagebin.org/267797 , how do i get a nice looks without unity enabled??
[11:57] <ActionPa1snip> Guest9219: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> Guest9219  try a different theme
[11:57] <Guest9219> MonkeyDust, it works the same on other themes, it works fine with unity or rain effect enabled.
[11:58] <yassine_> test
[11:58] <hudini> Dr_Willis how would i install privoxy or proxychains on ubuntu ,i installed tor ,and now i am trying to SSH over tor proxy
[11:58] <ActionPa1snip> Guest9219: In a terminal (You can run one with CTRL+ALT+T), what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:58] <Dr_Willis_> hudini:  theres some 'setting up tor' wiki pages/guides. I dont use tor. I find most people use tor for the wrong reasons.
[11:59] <Dr_Willis_> brb. gotta get some drivers going.
[11:59] <ActionPa1snip> Dr_Willis_: for very wrong reasons. Its funny what people think tor is
[11:59] <Guest9219> ActionPa1snip, Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[11:59] <ActionPa1snip> Guest9219: if you install gnome-panel and log in to that session, you can disable the Unity plugin in Compiz and use it as the WM
[12:00] <ActionPa1snip> Guest9219: is that what you desire?
[12:01] <Guest9219> ActionPa1snip, i want to have a nice shadow effect without those (rain effect or unity)enabled.
[12:02] <hudini> Dr_Willis wrong people get what they deserve , i am trying to learn security and penetration testing
[12:02] <Guest9219> ActionPa1snip, i've the same issue on both ubuntu and gnome fall back session.
[12:03] <ActionPa1snip> Guest9219: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/how-to-get-bigger-compiz-shadows-under-app-windows
[12:04] <ActionPa1snip> Guest9219: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37654/how-can-i-remove-window-shadows-in-unity/37668#37668
[12:04] <OerHeks> rain plugin, wobbly windows, not really an important feature
[12:04] <hudini> Dr_Willis i installed tor and proxychains ,so you have no idea how i could configure privoxy or proxychains so that  i can  SSH over Tor proxy
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> i disabled all desktop effects
[12:06] <ActionPa1snip> i use openbox
[12:08] <Guest9219> ActionPa1snip, i don't want to increase the shadow radius, the problem is i have to toggle rain effects to get the best looks, without rain effect my desktop looks like this http://imagebin.org/267797
[12:09] <Guest9219> ActionPa1snip,  i'm sorry if my question is a bit confusing
[12:09] <owusu> yeah
[12:10] <owusu> #ping
[12:17] <blz> Hello, how would I block incoming on <IP_ADDRESS>/16 with iptables?
[12:25] <rypervenche> blz: Something like "iptables -I INPUT -s <IP_ADDRESS>/16 -j DENY"
[12:26] <blz> rypervenche, does this seem ok?  iptables -I FORWARD -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -d <IP_ADDRESS>/16 -j REJECT
[12:31] <ActionPa1snip> Guest64600: could ask in #compiz  I dont use it. I think its a joke
[12:32] <blodiak> hi !!! am looking for backtrack or kali chanel please
[12:32] <blz> blodiak, it's not backtrack/kali per se, but you could try #netsec
[12:33] <blz> blodiak, erm... not netsec...
[12:33] <k1l> !backtrack | blodiak
[12:33] <k1l> blodiak: next time you can use alis to search for specific channels
[12:33] <blz> lol nvm, what k1l  suggested ^^
[12:34] <blodiak> ok thanks
[12:34] <kuhno>  I got 2 eth interfaces in my machine and want to make sure the default route is always on eth0. So I set up a post-up rule deleting the default->eth1 rule. how can i make sure the default->eth0 rule has the correct gateway ip (achieved via DHCP) set? currently the gw ip is hard-coded in my /etc/networking/interfaces post-up rule...
[12:35] <ahhughes> is there a way to configure the menu bar of windows so they appear in the window, and not on the top of the desktop? Its very annoying
[12:36] <blodiak> how to fix if the live cd (kde) cant see my network interface???need help
[12:38] <blodiak> how to fix if the live cd (kde) cant see my network interface???need help
[12:39] <setsuna__> I have two machines <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> . The machine <IP_ADDRESS> is the vpn server. i have a route on the <IP_ADDRESS> "route add -net <IP_ADDRESS>/8 gw <IP_ADDRESS>" which allows my servers which are on <IP_ADDRESS>/8 to talk to <IP_ADDRESS>.
[12:39] <Wiky> 123
[12:39] <ActionPa1snip> ahhughes: you mean, remove the global manu and have the menus for apps in their respective windows
[12:40] <setsuna__> i was earlier on 10.04 and after upgrading to 12.04 after one or two hours one of the client server is not able to access <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:40] <ActionPa1snip> blodiak: what network controller chip are you using?
[12:40] <ahhughes> yes, except I used the wrong terminology :)
[12:40] <setsuna__> and after a network restart everything works fine
[12:40] <ActionPa1snip> ahhughes: well, you now know the correct one and can use it to find guides
[12:43] <ahhughes> thanks ActionPa1snip
[12:43] <ahhughes> reboot time
[12:43] <karab44> where is bash history for root user?
[12:43] <karab44> ok got it
[12:43] <karab44> :*
[12:43] <blodiak> ActionPa1snip: how I can see that please???
[12:44] <blodiak> and sorry for my bad English am just learning
[12:46] <sillyme> whats command to check my kernel version
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> sillyme  uname -r
[12:46] <sillyme> ty
[12:47] <blag> ditor
[12:47] <blag> sorry wrong channel
[12:47] <setsuna__> I have two machines <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> . The machine <IP_ADDRESS> is the vpn server. i have a route on <IP_ADDRESS> "route add -net <IP_ADDRESS>/8 gw <IP_ADDRESS>" which allows my servers which are on <IP_ADDRESS>/8 to talk to <IP_ADDRESS>. i was earlier on 10.04 and faced no issues but after upgrading to 12.04 after one or two hours one or two of the servers are not able to access <IP_ADDRESS> but after a network restart everything works fine
[12:47] <setsuna__> another hour and again one or two random servers are not able to ping. thank you and sorry for the repost.
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> setsuna__  there's also #ubuntu-server
[12:50] <foo357_> hmm, how do I mark the end of an email when using 'mail' from terminal? Is it Ctrl-D to mark end of message?
[12:50] <setsuna__> Thanks MonkeyDust will try there.
[12:50] <SwedeMike> foo357_: use "."
[12:50] <foo357_> SwedeMike: I tried that first
[12:50] <SwedeMike> foo357_: works for me here.
[12:55] <blodiak> Atheros AR8151 Ethernet Controller
[12:58] <Marissa> daftykins: you asked me to keep you informed about the memory problem I had on my VPS
[12:59] <Marissa> i mailed the VPS company, they reinstalled everything and manually installed the LAMP-server so that mysql and php work
[12:59] <Marissa> I still have trouble with apt-get because of too little memory, but it disappears when I stop apache
[12:59] <Marissa> so for now I just stop apache and restart it after installing something
[13:00] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[13:00] <blazemore> hi ShapeShifter499
[13:00] <ShapeShifter499> does anyone know how I can configure ubuntu to run my system fans at max all the time?
[13:00] <blazemore> Does your system have a make and model, ShapeShifter499 ?
[13:00] <Marissa> must be summer :)
[13:01] <ShapeShifter499> Acer Aspire 7540
[13:01] <ShapeShifter499> running Ubuntu 13.04 64bit
[13:01] <blazemore> ShapeShifter499: Take a look here http://askubuntu.com/posts/46135/
[13:01] <blazemore> ShapeShifter499: If those instructions don't work, let me know. Also let me know any error
[13:01] <Enissay> Hi, I'm trying to download a file using "wget https://orchard.codeplex.com/downloads/get/705173" but it's getting me the html page instead !! Any idea how to fix this please ?
[13:02] <ShapeShifter499> blazemore, I'm getting "page not found"
[13:02] <blazemore> Enissay: wget "http://download-codeplex.sec.s-msft.com/Download/Release?ProjectName=orchard&DownloadId=705173&FileTime=130186485193930000&Build=20708"
[13:02] <blazemore> ShapeShifter499: First answer here, sorry : http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed
[13:02] <OerHeks> blodiak, the ATH 8151 driver is not in the kernel, see this post to make it work > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1677122&page=4&p=11586563#post11586563
[13:05] <ShapeShifter499> blazemore, I just came across that thread via google, no that does not work for me
[13:05] <blazemore> ShapeShifter499: Do you get an error at any of the stages?
[13:05] <ShapeShifter499> blazemore, /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[13:06] <blazemore> ShapeShifter499: run "sudo sensors-detect" and follow the instructions.
[13:06] <ShapeShifter499> I have
[13:06] <blazemore> ShapeShifter499: Did you allow it to load modules at the end?
[13:06] <ShapeShifter499> blazemore, yes
[13:06] <Enissay> blazemore, OMG, what an awefull link xD ... how did you get it ? I'm using this in a loop script so It is not the same all the time xD
[13:06] <ShapeShifter499> blazemore, No modules to load, skipping modules configuration.
[13:07] <rebarbror> I dont understand, my bootable usb stick works perfect with my laptop but when I use it on my pc it just hangs and after a while random texts start popping up
[13:07] <blazemore> ShapeShifter499: First answer here, uses i8kutils http://askubuntu.com/questions/281478/fan-speed-in-ubuntu-pwmconfig-no-pwm-capable-sensor-modules-installed
[13:07] <blazemore> rebarbror: Does your computer boot from other USB sticks OK?
[13:08] <Enissay> blazemore, or never mind, I see now how xD
[13:08] <Enissay> blazemore, Thanks mate <3
[13:08] <rebarbror> I have only tried one, but it worked perfect with my laptop.
[13:08] <rebarbror> tried diffrent usb slots but no diffrence
[13:09] <sillyme> is there a way to see what kernel headers i have installed ?
[13:09] <blazemore> rebarbror: Sure your PC's BIOS is set to boot from USB?
[13:09] <blazemore> sillyme: dpkg -l | grep linux-headers
[13:09] <rebarbror> yeah ofc, it hangs when the windows come ups with welcome to linux
[13:09] <rebarbror> window*
[13:09] <sillyme> ty
[13:10] <blazemore> "welcome to linux" ?
[13:10] <blazemore> Where does it say that?
[13:10] <rebarbror> welocome*
[13:10] <blazemore> Are you sure you've downloaded Ubuntu?
[13:10] <rebarbror> sorry I wrote wrong
[13:10] <rebarbror> only says welcome
[13:10] <ActionPa1snip> sounds liek XP
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> rebarbror  what's the output of     cat /etc/issue ?
[13:10] <xyz123> [Partitioning] just confirming: which partition does the base system reside in? How much space does it need
[13:10] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:10] <cfhowlett> sounds like wubi
[13:11] <ActionPa1snip> xyz123: the base install will be in /  and will need to be about 8Gb to be comfortable
[13:11] <rebarbror> ubuntu is not installed, I am trying to install it
[13:11] <blazemore> xyz123: I recommend 8GiB to not run into problems
[13:11] <Skizu> Hey I'm using putty to connect to my server, is there a way I can download stuff from the server to the pc i'm using putty on?
[13:11] <blazemore> Skizu: Use FileZilla
[13:11] <ActionPa1snip> xyz123: then 1.1xRAM for swap (assuming more than 2Gb RAM) and the rest for /home
[13:11] <Skizu> blazemore: What's FileZilla?
[13:11] <ActionPa1snip> Skizu: sftp client for windows
[13:11] <xyz123> ActionPa1snip: i have created a 50GB / primary partition but keeps failing
[13:11] <blazemore> Skizu: It's a file transfer client
[13:12] <rebarbror> will try to install from cd
[13:12] <ActionPa1snip> xyz123: you can have / for all folders, not a problem
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> rebarbror  ubuntu has no "welcome to linux"... is that a cd that was delivered with a magazine or so?
[13:12] <rebarbror> it's just says welcome
[13:12] <rebarbror> ---
[13:12] <Skizu> blazemore: I've winSCP for that, was wondering if I could do something in ssh so I could make a bash file to do the action
[13:12] <blazemore> Skizu: WinSCp will work fine too
[13:12] <rebarbror> and it's the img file from thier website
[13:12] <rebarbror> 12.4lts
[13:12] <blazemore> from whose? Ubuntu doesn't provide an img file
[13:12] <rebarbror> 12.04*
[13:12] <ActionPa1snip> Skizu: sure, you can run:  ssh user@server "grep paul /etc/passwd"
[13:12] <rebarbror> iso file
[13:13] <cfhowlett> rebarbror, ? what site did you get it from?
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> Skizu: it will run the command on the server and give you back your prompt
[13:13] <Skizu> ActionPa1snip: What'd that do
[13:13] <rebarbror> ubuntu.com
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> Skizu: finds the name paul in /etc/passwd
[13:13] <lenzeor> Hey guys! I just installed linux on an old laptop and the graphics chip seems to be faulty. How can I make my system use fallback graphics only (from a root shell)?
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> Skizu: saves having to connect, run it, then disconnect
[13:13] <blazemore> rebarbror: Do you get a menu with options like "Install" and "Try Ubuntu Before Installing" etc?
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> lenzeor: add the boot option: nomodeset
[13:13] <xyz123> ActionPa1snip: I'm trying to partition manually .... wanted to have seperate partitions for certain things... probably is when i do guided entire partition it works fine.... as soon as i partition manually giving / 50 GB alone it fails to setup base system
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> Skizu: great if you have multiple PCs
[13:14] <lenzeor> ActionPalsnip, how do I do that?
[13:14] <xyz123> ActionPa1snip: can't figure out why it would keep failing
[13:14] <ActionPa1snip> xyz123: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[13:14] <Skizu> ActionPa1snip: how do I download to my local like that?
[13:14] <kjlikj> Hello
[13:14] <blazemore> Hello kjlikj
[13:14] <cfhowlett> kjlikj, greetings
[13:14] <rebarbror> that's where it hangs, it just shows welcome in the window the rest in just a white square
[13:14] <ActionPa1snip> Skizu: you can use scp (or winscp in Windows)
[13:14] <kjlikj> Web fonts is not exists one my browser ?
[13:14] <blazemore> rebarbror: Are you able to take a picture...?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> rebarbror, ok.  hey did you md5sum check the iso?
[13:15] <ActionPa1snip> kjlikj: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[13:15] <xyz123> ActionPa1snip: kind of a silly question why do i need to md5sum the iso?
[13:15] <Skizu> ActionPa1snip: So there isn't a way I can use putty to put stuff on my pc?
[13:15] <ActionPa1snip> xyz123: so you know that it is complete and consistant
[13:15] <blazemore> Skizu: Putty isn't a file transfer client, so no
[13:15] <lenzeor> ActionPalsnip, apparently I gotta do that from the installer?
[13:15] <kjlikj> 11.10
[13:15] <rebarbror> I just used a program called rufus to make my usb stick bootable
[13:15] <blazemore> 11.10 isn't supported any more, kjlikj
[13:15] <Skizu> blazemore: Ok thanks =]
[13:16] <rebarbror> yeah sure, I can take a picture
[13:16] <kjlikj> heh
[13:16] <xyz123> ActionPa1snip: the cd installs if i partition using guided.... wouldn't that be enough to confirm that it is complete?
[13:16] <ActionPa1snip> Skizu: putty isnt for file copying, you can connect to the same service on the same server using filezilla and manouvre files
[13:16] <blazemore> rebarbror: Wait
[13:16] <cfhowlett> rebarbror, which doesn't answer the question.  did you md5sum check?
[13:16] <blazemore> rebarbror: Firstly, check the md5sum of the iso you downloaded
[13:16] <ActionPa1snip> xyz123: no as files used to install the OS may be damaged
[13:16] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|rebarbror,
[13:16] <kjlikj> i am talking about the fonts not about my ubuntu version
[13:16] <blazemore> !eol | kjlikj
[13:16] <kjlikj> the is not a scientific talk
[13:16] <ShapeShifter499> blazemore, doesn't seem to be doing anything
[13:16] <rebarbror> how do I cheack the md5 sums?
[13:17] <blazemore> kjlikj: This is the official Ubuntu support channel. Support for Ubuntu 11.10 has ended
[13:17] <cfhowlett> kjlikj, 11.10 dead and no longer supported.
[13:17] <blazemore> rebarbror: Did you read the "how to md5sum" link?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|rebarbror,
[13:17] <ActionPa1snip> kjlikj: the release is not supported by the community in any way, id doesnt matter what the issue is, you are using a dead release
[13:17] <rebarbror> thx
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> kjlikj  first get a supported release, then ask again
[13:17] <kjlikj> ok what are the support versions here
[13:17] <blazemore> kjlikj: 12.04 and 13.04
[13:17] <cfhowlett> kjlikj, suggest you update to at least 12.04
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> kjlikj  type /topic to find out
[13:17] <kjlikj> from12.04 to 13.4 ?
[13:18] <blazemore> kjlikj: Yes, it says in the /topic
[13:18] <cfhowlett> kjlikj, choose one. 12.04 is long term support.  13.04 is not.
[13:18] <ActionPa1snip> kjlikj: yes, 12.04, 12.10 and 13.04 are supporte
[13:18] <kjlikj> 13.04 is not out yet ?
[13:18] <blazemore> kjlikj: They're named by date - 13.04 was released in April 2013
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> kjlikj  it is, 13.10 will be the next (2013, 10th month)
[13:19] <ActionPa1snip> kjlikj: it was released in 20(13) in the (4)th month, April. What do you reckon?
[13:19] <kjlikj> mm great
[13:19] <kjlikj> ididnt know that before
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> kjlikj  that's called "learning"
[13:20] <kjlikj> so 13.04 is working
[13:20] <kjlikj> Yeah exactly
[13:20] <blazemore> kjlikj: Yes, and you might actually find your problem disappears when you install it anyway :)
[13:20] <kjlikj> and how to get learning :)
[13:21] <kjlikj> i am downloading the updates
[13:22] <kjlikj> how to know all that about ubuntu and linux
[13:22] <kjlikj> it is really great work
[13:22] <blazemore> kjlikj: Use it
[13:22] <blazemore> kjlikj: If you use it, you won't get *worse* at it
[13:22] <kjlikj> just ?
[13:22] <blazemore> kjlikj: Yes. When something doesn't work, don't give up and just use WIndows for it. Force yourself to learn how to fix it, and why it wasn't working in the first place
[13:22] <kjlikj> so i should stay 24 hours with Ubuntu
[13:23] <blazemore> kjlikj: Or get a job as a Linux sysadmin, and you'll have to learn pretty quickly :L
[13:23] <kjlikj> how?
[13:23] <kjlikj> sysadmin
[13:23] <mead0w> I'm new to linux as well kjlikj
[13:24] <kjlikj> Great
[13:24] <blazemore> I was joking actually, I think you need to *already* know quite a lot about Linux before you can do it professionally...
[13:24] <cfhowlett> !lamp|kjlikj,
[13:24] <blazemore> cfhowlett: ...?
[13:24] <kjlikj> Lamp
[13:24] <cfhowlett> kjlikj, installing lamp is a great place to learn some linux
[13:24] <kjlikj> i have been using Wamp
[13:24] <blazemore> Well you're already familiar with the "amp" part
[13:25] <kjlikj> Yeah
[13:25] <cfhowlett> :)
[13:25] <kjlikj> i am a web developer
[13:25] <rebarbror> th md5 values are correct
[13:25] <mead0w> I really want to learn about PHP and hopefully create small web projects
[13:25] <kjlikj> i am designe the wordpress themes
[13:26] <blazemore> rebarbror: I've never heard of the tool you used to create the bootable USB - could you try using unetbootin, which is well-regarded in this channel, and generally
[13:26] <kjlikj> blazemore
[13:26] <kjlikj> i think that lamp is just for web devs
[13:26] <blazemore> erm... web devs just do the dev
[13:27] <blazemore> I would assume they don't concern themselves with systems-y stuff, at least our web devs don't
[13:27] <rebarbror> okay, will try the program you mentiones
[13:27] <kjlikj> ok
[13:28] <kjlikj> i know about the simple commands
[13:28] <kjlikj> like
[13:28] <kjlikj> ls
[13:28] <kjlikj> pwd
[13:28] <kjlikj> cd
[13:28] <kjlikj> mkdir
[13:28] <FloodBot1> kjlikj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:28] <rpage> help all when is the ubuntu phone being releases
[13:29] <auronandace> !touch | rpage
[13:29] <rpage> hello all, when is the ubuntu phone is releasing
[13:29] <kjlikj> sorry
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> kjlikj  don't hit enter too often
[13:29] <kjlikj> it is better then using guis
[13:30] <Pici> !offtopic
[13:30] <kjlikj> ok
[13:31] <kjlikj> sysadmin is Cert ?
[13:31] <rpage> what hardware will the phone be shipped on
[13:31] <rpage> when is the release date
[13:31] <blazemore> rpage: Did you read the page you were linked?
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> !phone | rpage
[13:32] <blazemore> kjlikj: Sysadmin is a job title, short for "system administrator"
[13:32] <rpage> Touch Developer Preview
[13:32] <rpage> yes
[13:32] <kjlikj> mm
[13:32] <kjlikj> great
[13:32] <kjlikj> what about LHCE
[13:32] <auronandace> rpage: seriously, read what the bot says: go to #ubuntu-touch
[13:32] <kjlikj> orry
[13:32] <kjlikj> sorry
[13:32] <kjlikj> RHCE
[13:33] <blazemore> kjlikj: RHCE is RedHat Certified Engineer, which is a well-respected industry certification for Linux Systems Administrators, and is offtopic in this channel
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> kjlikj  your questions are not for this channel
[13:35] <moz_> Hi, I have ubuntu 12 on a lenovo b560 laptop. Bluetooth doesn't work. Any hint?
[13:37] <blazemore> !bluetooth | moz_
[13:37] <blazemore> Have you read these, moz_ ?
[13:37] <moz_> blazemore, not jet
[13:39] <moz_> blazemore, why doesn't bluetooth work automatically?
[13:40] <blazemore> moz_: Possibly because your bluetooth module's manufacturer doesn't make drivers for Linux
[13:40] <blazemore> moz_: Mostly, bluetooth does work automatically
[13:40] <moz_> blazemore, I see
[13:40] <Guest24745> Hello everyone how's it going? I have Ubuntu 13.04 64bit and am having a little issue. I have a Dell N4010 and my keyboard has Fkeys that control screen brightness. When I try to use them the brightness Icon and bar show up on the top right of the screen but the brightness don't change. Instead the icon just flickers. I booted back into Windows and it works just fine so I know it's not the computer, anyone have a suggestion?
[13:41] <blazemore> Guest24745: Before I even start to answer, I'd like to thank you for phrasing your question perfectly
[13:41] <blazemore> Guest24745: You are a beacon of hope for this channel
[13:41] <ana_> holaholahplahpola
[13:41] <blazemore> see usually we just get that ^
[13:42] <blazemore> Guest24745: What is the output of running the command    cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness
[13:42] <ana_> hello
[13:42] <blazemore> hello ana_
[13:43] <ana_> i am spanish x)
[13:43] <blazemore> !es | ana_
[13:43] <ana_> how are you?
[13:43] <ana_> xd
[13:44] <Guest24745> Blazemore no such file or directory
[13:44] <Guest24745> I have to restart brb
[13:44] <xyz123> ActionPa1snip: the checksum was good
[13:44] <xyz123> ;/
[13:44] <ana_> byebye see you soon
[13:46] <moz_> blazemore, I'm following the instruction at the page you gave me. As I tip: hcitool dev, I receive a void answer
[13:46] <moz_> blazemore, It seems my laptop has no bluetooth
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> moz_  do you have a bluetooth adapter?
[13:47] <blazemore> moz_: After installing the packages, reboot
[13:47] <hansp> I installed Lamp, and ive added my webprojectfolder into the /var/www/ but when i try to open the /var/www/project/ its unreadable. Its owned by the root. How do I change that in safe way?
[13:47] <moz_> MonkeyDust, well no, I thought that bluetooth was built inside of the laptop.
[13:48] <moz_> blazemore, I realized that those packages were already installed
[13:48] <tahitibob> yes
[13:49] <moz_> blazemore, MonkeyDust: start: Job is already running: bluetooth
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> moz_  the job, but without hardwaren then
[13:54] <anton02> hi, how do you apt-get a whole system?
[13:55] <Okitain> anton02: what do you want to do?
[13:55] <blazemore> anton02: Could you be more specific?
[13:55] <anton02> i want to emerge world but on debian
[13:55] <moz_> MonkeyDust, blazemore: how can I prove whether I do have a bluetooth hardare?
[13:56] <moz_> hardware
[13:56] <blazemore> anton02: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop would be the closest
[13:56] <anton02> oh
[13:56] <anton02> is there a way to apt-get install everything that would be on a dvd?
[13:56] <blazemore> No because some packages can't be installed alongside each other
[13:56] <anton02> i just dont want to have to keep installing stuff. i want everything i would ever need now
[13:56] <blazemore> What do you actually want to achieve?
[13:56] <blazemore> Oh
[13:57] <blazemore> You could set up a local apt mirror
[13:57] <blazemore> But I don't understand your motives
[13:57] <anton02> cool
[13:57] <anton02> how big would the whole mirror be
[13:57] <blazemore> Very very large
[13:57] <anton02> about 20gb?
[13:57] <blazemore> Depends how many of the repositories you want to mirror
[13:58] <anton02> i just amd64
[13:58] <anton02> want
[13:58] <blazemore> Just the main, security, and updates repository for a single architecture is about 70GiB
[13:58] <blazemore> If you also want universe and multiverse, it will be a LOT more
[13:58] <anton02> what does universe have that main doesnt have?
[13:59] <blazemore> !universe | anton02
[13:59] <blazemore> The first link
[13:59] <anton02> actually im on debian so would that still apply to me
[13:59] <blazemore> !debian | anton02
[13:59] <Pici> no. ask in #debian
[14:00] <blazemore> Debian's not supported here, anton02 - they have their own active channel on this network in #debian
[14:00] <anton02> i was there but theres some asshoels that dont like answering legit questions
[14:00] <auronandace> !language | anton02
[14:00] <usr13> anton02: Ignore him.
[14:02] <usr13> anton02: If you lean to get along with everyone, you will be able to get *way* better support.    If you ignore thier rude comments you can function just fine in spite of them.
[14:03] <anton02> okay ill try again there
[14:03] <usr13> anton02: (Don't let someone else control your emotions, don't let them push your buttons :)
[14:03] <blazemore> anton02: You might want to think a little bit about what you *actually* want from this endeavour
[14:04] <anton02> i have a 10mb/s connection at uni, and about 20kb/s at home so it's annoying having to install stuff at home
[14:04] <blazemore> anton02: Habits from Gentoo don't necessarily translate to Debian; I don't know Gentoo but it's possible you're doing the equivelant of buying a motorbike and then demanding someone sell you a steering-wheel cover that fits
[14:04] <blazemore> ie "emerge world" might have no equivelant on Debian
[14:08] <Okitain> anton02: download the 3 DVD isos and mount them at home.
[14:08] <anton02> is there groups of software you can install like all development software for example
[14:08] <blazemore> anton02: Look at "tasksel" application
[14:08] <anton02> i only have access to a mirror that doesn't have debian-cd
[14:08] <blazemore> anton02: Okitain's suggestion of downloading the Debian DVDs for safe-keeping isn't a bad idea, but I'm ending this discussion and asking you to continue it with the folks in #debian
[14:09] <Pici> Can we please move the debian discussion to #debian?
[14:09] <Pici> blazemore: thanks :)
[14:09] <Peanut> Hi folks - is swapping on SSD recommended? I've got a server with 64GB of RAM (for virtual guests), and 2x 120G SSD - I'd rather not reserve 25% of my SSD capacity for swap?
[14:09] <blazemore> anton02: And if you PM me the URL of any files you need I can mirror them for you temporarily on a very fast server
[14:09] <blazemore> Peanut: You probably don't need much/any swap with that much RAM
[14:10] <blazemore> Peanut: Repeated writes to an SSD lower its life-span, so anything which minimises writes to an SSD will increase its life-span
[14:10] <usr13> Peanut: It is not a big issue.
[14:10] <Peanut> blazemore: thanks
[14:10] <ActionPa1snip> Peanut: swap wears out SSDs, you could get a small HDD or even a USB stick as swap, save your internal SSDs
[14:10] <blazemore> However Peanut in real life you'll likely replace those SSDs before they fail
[14:10] <Peanut> I hope the machine won't ever swap, as long as I don't overcommit the ram.
[14:10] <usr13> Peanut: I know there are those that avoid creating swap partitions on SSDs but it doesn't make that much difference.  I would go on and do it.
[14:10] <blazemore> I would *hope* Linux pre-emptively copies pages to the swap file...
[14:10] <ActionPa1snip> Peanut: depends on the activities and settings on the guests
[14:11] <blazemore> Peanut: My advice for you is to make a small (4GiB) swap partition, which probably won't ever get used
[14:11] <blazemore> Peanut: Your SSDs aren't going to catch fire
[14:11] <Peanut> The machine got a bit more memory than I intended, because of a too-good-to-resist offer from the vendor *grin*
[14:11] <ActionPa1snip> Peanut: i'd make a tempfs storage and have all temps and so forth use that, rather than the SSDs
[14:12] <ActionPa1snip> Peanut: RAM is cheap
[14:12] <usr13> ActionPa1snip: If you have plenty of RAM, the swap partition is not used that much.  So if you have an SSD, just make sure you have plenty of RAM and don't worry about it.
[14:12] <kuhno> i've already killed 2 SSD... so i don't swap to SSD any more
[14:12] <Peanut> kuhno: ouch..
[14:12] <usr13> ActionPa1snip: tempfs storage?
[14:12] <kuhno> but at least i pay the same money each time and get double capacity :)
[14:13] <Peanut> Also, on 13.04, do I need to add anything to fstab to activate trim?
[14:13] <kuhno> i even told my windows to swap to the ramdisk because it didn't boot without swap file...
[14:14] <blazemore> Peanut: Not in fstab, but you do need to jump through a couple of low hoops... http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/enable-trim-on-ssd-solid-state-drives.html
[14:14] <Drewroo> hey can i get some help with something?
[14:14] <blazemore> !ask | Drewroo
[14:15] <usr13> ActionPa1snip: (I am not sure how tempfs storage would incur fewer read-writes.)
[14:15] <Bjond> usr13: it uses the ram, right?
[14:16] <Drewroo> im trying to run sudo apt-get install git build-essential libgtk2.0-dev libwxgtk2.8-dev libwx-perl libmodule-build-perl libnet-dbus-perl      but then i get this E: Unable to locate package libwxgtk2.8-dev
[14:16] <Drewroo> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libwxgtk2.8-dev'
[14:16] <Drewroo> E: Unable to locate package libwx-perl
[14:16] <Drewroo> E: Unable to locate package libnet-dbus-perl
[14:16] <usr13> Bjond: I don't know, (don't think so).
[14:16] <Drewroo> welll didnt mean to break that up
[14:16] <blazemore> Drewroo: a) don't paste multiple lines to the channel. b) run "sudo apt-get update" first
[14:16] <Drewroo> did that
[14:16] <kuhno> !patience
[14:16] <Bjond> !tmpfs | usr13
[14:16] <blazemore> Drewroo: Can you put the whole command you ran, and the full output, onto http://paste.ubuntu.com please?
[14:17] <Okitain> Drewroo: does installing a random program, say, nano, work?
[14:17] <usr13> Bjond: See, ubottu doesn't even know about tmpfs
[14:18] <blazemore> Okitain: nano ships with Ubuntu, that was a poor example. Let me see his error first
[14:18] <Bjond> usr13: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tmpfs
[14:18] <ActionPa1snip> usr13: you'd be writing temp rubbish to the RAM instead of to the SSD
[14:18] <Drewroo> i just installed xchat
[14:18] <Drewroo> and am using it
[14:18] <usr13> Okitain: What do you mean by random program?
[14:18] <ActionPa1snip> usr13: I use it for web cache, speeds up browsing slightly
[14:18] <blazemore> Drewroo: Can you put the whole command you ran, and the full output, onto http://paste.ubuntu.com please?
[14:18] <Drewroo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5992893/
[14:18] <usr13> ActionPa1snip: I see.  Ok.  Thanks
[14:19] <blazemore> !info libwx-perl
[14:19] <ActionPa1snip> usr13: if you can reduce the writes to slow HDDs and keep data in RAM as much as possible the OS will run faster
[14:19] <blazemore> Drewroo: if you open your Software Sources options program, can you make sure the "universe" repository is ticked?
[14:19] <Drewroo> would it be useful to know im using the 64bit ubuntu?
[14:19] <blazemore> Drewroo: Usually yes, but in this case I know the problem
[14:20] <Achillesiv> not sure if this is the right place but I'm currently on 13.04 and on gedit the options file, edit, etc are not there.  I'm guessing it might be some security thing kind of like su password being disabled by default.
[14:20] <ActionPa1snip> Drewroo: uname -m      x86_64 = 64bit    i686 = 32bit
[14:21] <ActionPa1snip> Achillesiv: move your mouse to the top panel
[14:21] <ActionPa1snip> Achillesiv: there is no 'su password', its not a thing
[14:21] <Achillesiv> tried that, but it didn
[14:21] <usr13> ActionPa1snip: True.  But again, if you have plenty of RAM, swap is not used that much and what is loaded into RAM just stays there and is used as needed.  So, theoretically, it doesn't make a lot of difference.  Right?
[14:21] <Achillesiv> did not work
[14:22] <Drewroo> blazemore:  im kind of a noob with ubuntu  where is this software sources program?
[14:22] <blazemore> Drewroo: Hit the dash and search for it :)
[14:22] <ActionPa1snip> usr13: vm.swappiness will dictate how often data is swapped out etc, seeting it to 1 will help lots
[14:22] <usr13> ActionPa1snip: Right.
[14:22] <blazemore> Drewroo: Or poke around System Settings by clicking the cog in the top-right corner of the screen
[14:22] <xkernel> I can't find MDB2_Driver_sqlite in apt-get
[14:22] <blazemore> !details | xkernel what are you trying to do? Who told you to look for it there
[14:22] <ActionPa1snip> Achillesiv: does it affect other text editors? Try installing leafpad
[14:23] <Drewroo> yea i did that but i see ubuntu store and software & updates
[14:23] <blazemore> Drewroo: Software and updates
[14:23] <xkernel> blazemore, Ubuntu 13.04, trying to install MDB2_Driver_sqlite to allow owncloud use sqlite
[14:23] <blazemore> Drewroo: Sorry I can't remember what things are called exactly
[14:23] <blazemore> xkernel: Are you following a tutorial?
[14:23] <Drewroo> ok
[14:24] <Drewroo> universe is checked
[14:24] <ActionPa1snip> Drewroo: what do you want to achieve?
[14:24] <Drewroo> already was
[14:24] <xkernel> blazemore, no but got that error from the log
[14:24] <blazemore> Drewroo: OK now it'll work
[14:24] <blazemore> ActionPa1snip: He was getting an error installing some packages which are in Universe; his Universe component was disabled, I had him enable it. Waiting for confirmation
[14:24] <blazemore> xkernel: sudo apt-get install php-mdb2-driver-mysql
[14:25] <Drewroo> o wait i must of inabled that when it asked if i wanted to use universe source when installing xchat -.-
[14:25] <Drewroo> so basically i fixit on accident
[14:25] <Achillesiv> leafpad eh will check it out
[14:25] <xkernel> blazemore, it's already installed but i want sqlite not mysql
[14:25] <blazemore> lol Drewroo
[14:25] <blazemore> xkernel: sudo apt-get install php-mdb2-driver-sqlite
[14:25] <Drewroo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[14:25] <Achillesiv> it does work for the terminal or at least with options on the panel just not gedit
[14:26] <blazemore> Drewroo: Pastebin the entire error, please. Also, did you run sudo apt-get update first?
[14:26] <xkernel> blazemore, it's not there as I said in the begining
[14:26] <Drewroo> not since enabling universe?
[14:26] <blazemore> OK xkernel except you said you were trying to install something called MDB2_Driver_sqlite
[14:26] <Drewroo> you think thats the problem?
[14:27] <blazemore> Yes Drewroo You need to update the repository
[14:27] <Drewroo> gotcha
[14:27] <blazemore> xkernel: humour me: sudo apt-get install php-mdb2-driver-sqlite
[14:27] <Drewroo> still get that error
[14:27] <Drewroo> ill pastebin
[14:27] <daftykins> Marissa: hey, interesting to hear - i think i would have an idea on that apache behaviour possibly
[14:27] <blazemore> Drewroo: Close the window where you enabled Universe
[14:28] <xkernel> blazemore, yeah sorry I didn't mention the package name but php-mdb2-driver-sqlite is not here
[14:28] <blazemore> !info php-mdb2-driver-sqlite
[14:28] <usr13> !pastebinit | Drewroo
[14:29] <blazemore> xkernel: Are you following a tutorial?
[14:29] <b0x> Schrodinger`Cat: are you alive?
[14:29] <usr13> Drewroo: For example; You can do  sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[14:30] <Drewroo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5992928/
[14:30] <xkernel> blazemore, Nope!
[14:30] <ball999> why i don't see php and nginx user or group in cat /etc/passwd ?
[14:30] <blazemore> ball999: Have you installed nginx?
[14:30] <ball999> yes
[14:30] <ball999> it is running right now
[14:31] <ball999> www-data is nginx user
[14:31] <auronandace> Drewroo: why are you using such an old kernel?
[14:31] <Guest16804> :Blazemore I am back sorry about that restart. The output of the command cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness is no such file or directory
[14:31] <Drewroo> dunno i just downloaded yesterday...
[14:31] <usr13> Drewroo: uname -r
[14:31] <blazemore> The thing that stands out to me there, Drewroo is "update-initramfs is disabled since running on read-only media"
[14:31] <Achillesiv> well leafpad did give me options but I was hoping to go to edit,preferences,plugins,the goal was to disable the file panel plugin
[14:32] <Drewroo> ah
[14:32] <blazemore> Drewroo: I think you need a reboot
[14:32] <Drewroo> i understand the problem then
[14:32] <Achillesiv> ok will give it a try
[14:32] <blazemore> Solves 99% of weirdness
[14:32] <Achillesiv> right on man
[14:33] <blazemore> Guest16804: Are there any directories under /sys/class/backlight? (ls /sys/class/backlight)
[14:33] <Drewroo> im running from live usb, which i assumed i could keep a uh workstation for on the go, can i not do that with ubuntu?
[14:33] <blazemore> Drewroo: Everything will be lost when you reboot
[14:33] <Drewroo> lame
[14:33] <blazemore> !persistance
[14:33] <Drewroo> even with persistant
[14:33] <blazemore> Oh fine
[14:33] <blazemore> Did you already set up persistance?
[14:33] <auronandace> !usb | Drewroo
[14:33] <ball999> can you please tell me how to give www-data permission to write in one folder? thanks in advance
[14:33] <Drewroo> well when i used live usb creator program
[14:33] <ActionPa1snip> Drewroo: if you have persistance then changes will be kept
[14:34] <ActionPa1snip> Drewroo: you needed to conciously set persistance
[14:34] <blazemore> Drewroo: What was the name of the program you used to make the bootable USB/ Was it Linux Live USB (LiLi) ?
[14:34] <Guest16804> blazemore,  it says /sys/class/backlight is a directory
[14:34] <blazemore> yeah Guest16804 do ls not cat
[14:34] <ActionPa1snip> Drewroo: if you boot to an ubuntu  install media, you can install to USB without issue, like a normal internal hdd
[14:34] <usr13> ball999: Which folder?
[14:35] <ball999> in ww
[14:35] <Guest16804> blazemore, the output of ls /sys/class/backlight is ls /sys/class/backlight
[14:35] <ball999> /usr/share/nginx/www/folder/
[14:36] <Drewroo> universal usb installer
[14:36] <Drewroo> so im guessing i have to redo it
[14:36] <linuxliam> anyone having trouble with skype crashin constantly
[14:37] <mandla> Hello
[14:37] <usr13> ball999: The way I do it is just serve from /home/  Like:   /home/ball999/www  or /home/ball999/public_html or /home/ball999/site1 or /home/ball999/site2 Something like that, (and just symlink to /var/www/
[14:39] <usr13> ball999: chown www-data /usr/share/nginx/www/folder/  #But again, if you serve from a /home/ dir you don't have to do that. And you can create a new user for each site if you want.
[14:39] <ball999> please can you tell me where is www apache folder in ubuntu?
[14:39] <somsip> ball999: /var/www usually
[14:39] <mandla> i want to install a dell 110T LTO5 tape drive using the LSI SAS HBA
[14:40] <somsip> linuxliam: not since the last couple of upgrades. Is it up to date and where did you install from?
[14:40] <mandla> on ubuntu 10.04 using poweredge 1900
[14:40] <usr13> ball999: Oh, you are using nginx?    Well, same applies, nginx as well as apache will follow symlinks.
[14:41] <satmandu> Hi all... I was wondering if I could ask a question about rebooting at vfs related kernel panics... (How do I get the kernel to reboot if it can't find nfs rootfs?)
[14:41] <usr13> ball999: So, are you actually using nginx?  (Or apache2?)
[14:41] <blazemore> !nomodeset > rebarbror
[14:41] <linuxliam> somsip: 13.04 repos
[14:42] <ActionPa1snip> mandla: have you contacted Dell?
[14:42] <somsip> linuxliam: it may be worth downloading the deb from Skype and installing with sudo dpkg -i skype.deb, but usually the official repo is the only official recommendation
[14:42] <blazemore> !skype > linuxliam
[14:43] <Porkidio2183> Ubuntu is deliberately preventing me from avoiding to show recent files and folder in the dash. How come i can't get it to NOT show me anything under there? Privacy options is NO HELP!!!!!
[14:44] <usr13> ball999: You can create symlinks like so:  ln -s /home/ball999/site1 /var/www/awesome-site1 ; ln -s /home/ball999/site2 /var/www/asesome-site2  etc..
[14:44] <linuxliam> blazemore: i did it didnt help
[14:44] <usr13> ball999: Or have different user for each site.
[14:45] <blazemore> Porkidio2183: Go to System Settings and choose Privacy. Then, turn off the button next to Record Activity.
[14:46] <linuxliam> skype seems to core dump when in video call i am aware its a propitiatory package so not much can be done to help
[14:46] <blazemore> linuxliam: Are you using the latest version from Microsoft?
[14:47] <blazemore> linuxliam: What is the output of       dpkg -l | grep skype-bin | awk '{print $3}'
[14:48] <linuxliam> blazemore: <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:48] <james__> hello
[14:49] <blazemore> linuxliam: Is it easy to reproduce? Do you have a copy of the error message(s) and core dumps etc?
[14:49] <blazemore> hello james__
[14:49] <buffy-976> t
[14:49] <linuxliam> blazemore: i could probably reproduce it but  i cant right now
[14:50] <ni551801> Hey?
[14:50] <blazemore> Hello ni551801
[14:51] <ni551801> is there a German User on?
[14:51] <blazemore> !de | ni551801
[14:52] <SkyDreamer> Is there a code of the bot ubottu ?
[14:52] <blazemore> SkyDreamer: It runs Bucket, I believe
[14:52] <Myrtti> SkyDreamer: it's a supybot
[14:53] <blazemore> I believed wrong
[14:53] <blazemore> !bots | SkyDreamer
[14:53] <SkyDreamer> Okay thanks
[14:53] <MasterProgram> I need help trouble shooting my lamp server setup. It was working and now it's not, What's worse the software center says that mysql-server 5.5 is installed but it fails when I try and remove it, so that I can reinstall it. As well tasksel says lamp-server isn't installed and when I try and install it, it fails!
[14:55] <cinvoke> xubuntu 13.04 halts on checking battery state. i read that my Xauthority file may be corrupted, so i moved that and rebooted.  however, this didnt fix the problem.  Does anyone have any ideas?
[14:57] <Xor64> Hello there
[14:57] <Xor64> Does anyone know why ubuntu makes my fans speed up so much ?
[14:57] <Xor64> And the CPU is getting terribly hot
[14:57] <Okitain> Xor64: try running powertop?
[14:57] <CuboidCatfish> Hi
[14:58] <cinvoke> yo
[14:58] <CuboidCatfish> :D
[14:58] <Okitain> CuboidCatfish: hullo.
[14:58] <CuboidCatfish> I want to talk something other than Ubuntu. do /join#ubuntu-social
[14:59] <MasterProgram> I need help trouble shooting my lamp server setup. It was working and now it's not, What's worse the software center says that mysql-server 5.5 is installed but it fails when I try and remove it, so that I can reinstall it. As well tasksel says lamp-server isn't installed and when I try and install it, it fails!
[14:59] <Strav> he. I'm having a hard time to get rid of some glxinfo error message on a remote ubuntu 13.04 vm. If anyone can help, here is the output of glxinfo: http://pastebin.com/cyvWtg4D (when accessing the vm via ssh with X redirection). Note that ultimately, I'm trying to get the android emulator to run past the initialization of opengles when accessing with freenx or vnc. When trying to run glxinfo from freenx, I get:
[14:59] <Strav> http://pastebin.com/fsVSf2na.
[14:59] <Xor64> I was told powertop is not that good, but I'll try
[15:00] <cinvoke> MasterProgram: it wont let you purge it?
[15:00] <MasterProgram> cinvoke: how do i do that?
[15:01] <cinvoke> MasterProgram: just t be clear, youd like to remove it and install again?
[15:01] <MasterProgram> yes
[15:01] <blazemore> !ubuntu-channels | CuboidCatfish
[15:01] <blazemore> CuboidCatfish: #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:02] <horrorxstory> hey everyone
[15:02] <blazemore> hello horrorxstory
[15:02] <cinvoke> MasterProgram: sudo apt-get purge mysql-server55
[15:02] <MasterProgram> cinvoke: since last night when I tried to let software updater update my system, my system wont update, remove and/or install software.
[15:02] <Xor64> X is using 30 ms/s, is that normal ?
[15:03] <cinvoke> MasterProgram: sudo apt-get install mysql-server55
[15:03] <cinvoke> o
[15:03] <cinvoke> MasterProgram: oh
[15:03] <Xor64> although I have a global CPU usage of 3.6%
[15:03] <blazemore> MasterProgram: What is the output of "sudo apt-get update" ?
[15:03] <cinvoke> MasterProgram: what error message?
[15:03] <blazemore> Xor64: Not a problem, then
[15:04] <Xor64> blazemore: Should I toggle the things shown as "Bad" in tunables ?
[15:04] <blazemore> Xor64: Are you talking about powertop?
[15:04] <Xor64> blazemore: yep
[15:05] <blazemore> Xor64: You can if you want; I don't use a laptop so I don't use it
[15:05] <silkcut> ahoy hoy
[15:05] <blazemore> ahoy hoy mr burns
[15:05] <Strav> Just out of curiosity. Is ubuntu still going ahead with it's ad-ware desktop?
[15:05] <blazemore> What do you mean Strav ?
[15:06] <blazemore> I've never heard of this, and it's the sort of thing I'd have heard...
[15:06] <cinvoke> anyone in here good at debugging boot issues?
[15:06] <blazemore> So unless it's been announced in the last 30 minutes, you're mistaken
[15:06] <MasterProgram> blazemore & cinvoke:  I ran sudo apt-get update and it didn't give me an error.
[15:06] <cinvoke> MasterProgram: whats the output of sudo apt-get purge mysql-server55?
[15:06] <blazemore> MasterProgram: When you say your system "won't" update or install software, what do you mean? Do you get an error every time?
[15:07] <auronandace> Strav: you can disable and  even remove the amazon plugin if you so desire
[15:07] <cinvoke> MasterProgram: that command should delete your mysql server.  please make sure thats ok.
[15:07] <Strav> blazemore: well those useless lenses that will allow to pollute my application searches with proprietary softwares, amazon and soon to be many many other companies search results?
[15:08] <blazemore> Strav: You can disable online sources in the options
[15:09] <MasterProgram> blazemore: I don't so much know about the installing of new software, but software updater tells me that it fails to install the new updates. Then it's like the updater crashes.
[15:09] <blazemore> MasterProgram: Can you please paste the output of running the command "sudo apt-get upgrade" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:09] <Strav> auronandace, blazemore: I know all this. What I'm wondering is: do they still wish to push advertisement on the platform? (last time I checked, there was those announcements of more lenses to come ... no will to turn those off by default, etc. etc.)
[15:10] <blazemore> Strav: It's not advertising, and this is the end of this discussion. Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:10] <auronandace> Strav: not really a discussion for this channel, this is just support, try asking in #ubuntu-discuss
[15:10] <Okitain> Xor64: what video card are you using?
[15:11] <Strav> ok then back to my real issue: I'm having a hard time to get rid of some glxinfo error message on a remote ubuntu 13.04 vm. If anyone can help, here is the output of glxinfo: http://pastebin.com/cyvWtg4D (when accessing the vm via ssh with X redirection). Note that ultimately, I'm trying to get the android emulator to run past the initialization of opengles when accessing with freenx or vnc. When trying to run glxinfo from freenx, I
[15:11] <Strav> get: http://pastebin.com/fsVSf2na.
[15:11] <Xor64> ATI Radeon HD something Mobility
[15:11] <linuxliam> blazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5993067/
[15:11] <Xor64> I'm trying to install proprietary drivers
[15:11] <blazemore> Aww linuxliam you're pretty stuffed... I guess you could try completely removing the ~/.Skype directory
[15:12] <blazemore> Xor64: There isn't a card currently being manufactured called "ATI Radeon HD something Mobility"
[15:12] <linuxliam> :/
[15:12] <Xor64> Radeon HD 7670M
[15:13] <Xor64> to be more precise :P
[15:13] <blazemore> sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle xvba-va-driver libva-glx1 libva-egl1 vainfo; sudo aticonfig --initial
[15:13] <blazemore> Then reboot
[15:13]  * genii ponders && instead of ;
[15:14] <Xor64> I'm currently installing proprietary fglrx through the "software source" utility
[15:14] <MasterProgram> blazemore: I ran the sudo apt-get upgrade command and created a gist for it here, https://gist.github.com/MasterProgram/e1b7e4132e58cf558e63
[15:14] <blazemore> genii is probably right, although it won't matter reallyin this case
[15:14] <blazemore> MasterProgram: What is the output of "sudo service mysql restart" ?
[15:15] <Xor64> blazemore: I guess it'll install all of these and configure itself then
[15:15] <ActionPa1snip> genii: && will only run the next command if the previous command worked (and returned '0'), ; will simply run regardless
[15:17] <sirg> hi
[15:18] <sirg> what is the best way to set permissions and ownership of the /var/www/ folder?
[15:18] <MasterProgram> blazermore: I ran the sudo service mysql restart command and added the output to the gist from before, https://gist.github.com/MasterProgram/e1b7e4132e58cf558e63!
[15:18] <blazemore> sirg: chmod and chown, respectively
[15:18] <blazemore> MasterProgram: sudo apt-get remove mysql-server-5.5
[15:21] <RayWizard> chrome uses too much ram, sadly 8 gb is not enought for casual browsing nowdays, i heard there is linux patch that predicts pages it whould need to load and prefetches them from swapfile but dont remember name, can someone enghliten me?
[15:21] <blazemore> RayWizard: if your browser is using 8GiB RAM for casual browsing, that's the problem you should be asking about
[15:22] <RayWizard> blazemore: firefox gui gets very laggy due to single threaded nature, when on ~200 tabs
[15:22] <rootpt> I use tor_vm to hide my real IP, but i have a problem.
[15:22] <rootpt> In the ubuntu machine i configure the file /etc/resolv.conf to use the ip of the TOR network like this: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> (ip of the tor_vm machine)..
[15:22] <rootpt> All works fine but i've got one little problem..
[15:22] <rootpt> The IP automatically switches after 10 or 15 minutes.. do u know why ? i want that IP in the file resolv.conf to not change.. anyone can help me?
[15:22] <FloodBot1> rootpt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> RayWizard  rephrase: how to prevent 8gb being used for casual browsing
[15:22] <MasterProgram> blazemore: I was successful using the sudo apt-get remove mysql-server-5.5 but tasksel will still not install lamp server and I no longer have it telling me that their is software to be updated?
[15:23] <blazemore> rootpt: Change it in network manager
[15:23] <blazemore> rootpt: Could you just let me know exactly what line 2 of your /etc/resolv.conf file says? I just need to check something
[15:23] <RayWizard> MonkeyDust: modern browsers dont have LRU cache of curently used pages, casue users that need 100+ tabs are not majority of their market
[15:24] <blazemore> ikonia: How'd you know he was on kali?
[15:24] <ikonia> blazemore: I am amazing
[15:24] <blazemore> Do you quickly grep the nick of everyone who asks a question?
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> RayWizard  100+ tabs is not casual browsing
[15:24] <blazemore> Because I do
[15:26] <cinvoke> blazemore: how do you grep in here?
[15:26] <blazemore> cinvoke: I mean grep your own log files
[15:26] <cinvoke> blazemore: o :)
[15:26] <nightdrever> at boot my pc says kvm dissabled by bios what is kvm and what drawbacks it not running?
[15:27] <blazemore> !kvm | nightdrever
[15:27] <blazemore> nightdrever: If you don't know what it is, you don't need to worry about it :)
[15:27] <cinvoke> blazemore: do you use a terminal client?
[15:27] <RayWizard> i used to browse 300+ tabs in opera in 2008 on 2gb of ram
[15:27] <blazemore> cinvoke: I do, I use weechat
[15:27] <cinvoke> blazemore: thx!
[15:28] <Tomy2938> when I tried mounting a remote nfs filesystems I can't create files on the local mount, it keep stating "Read-only file system"
[15:28] <Tomy2938> When I check the parameters of the mount it shows as rw, any ideas?
[15:29] <chinno55> Anyone here use ARM Ubuntu?
[15:29] <blazemore> Tomy2938: Can you create files in that folder on the remote machine?
[15:29] <MasterProgram> blazemore: I also tried to reinstall mysql-server-5.5 using the software center and it says that "Package dependencies cannot be resolved"
[15:29] <Tomy2938> blazemore, checking that
[15:29] <blazemore> MasterProgram: Can you please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server-5.5"
[15:31] <Tomy2938> blazemore, I was able to create and delete files in the source system
[15:31] <Tomy2938> The seocnd system where I am mounting it is not able to write to it
[15:32] <Tomy2938> I am using the following options in the NFS server exportfs <IP_ADDRESS>/16(rw,sync,no_root_squash)
[15:33] <MasterProgram> blazemore: I tried sudo apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server-5.5 and pasted the resulting output to the gist mentioned earlier, https://gist.github.com/MasterProgram/e1b7e4132e58cf558e63
[15:33] <Tomy2938> When I try mounting it on the second system I am mounting it as the following "mount -t nfs it5:/shares/webteamnfs -o auto,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,rw /nfsmounts/webteamnfs"
[15:33] <Tomy2938> I am not sure why this isn'r working
[15:33] <Diranged> It seems like it may be impossible for me to make a 'metapackage' that dicatates the exact versions of a few other packages I want installed on a system, and have that able to force downgrades?
[15:34] <Diranged> Ie … Package 'meta 1.0 ' requiring 'nginx (= 1.2)', but 'meta 1.1' requiring 'nginx (= 1.3)'.. the install of meta 1.1 works, but t he install of meta1.0 fails if ive already got nginx 1.3..
[15:34] <Tomy2938> What could be causing this issue?
[15:34] <geudrik> I'm trying to get 8021q support going, but modprobe is throwing a hissy fit.. I get "libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod.c:554 kmod_search_moddep: could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/2.6.32-20-pve/modules.dep.bin'" as an error. Thoughts?
[15:34] <Diranged> Is that right?
[15:34] <blazemore> geudrik: What's the output of "file /lib/modules/2.6.32-20-pve/modules.dep.bin"
[15:35] <geudrik> blazemore: The file doesnt exist, hence my question. I installed the vlan package
[15:35] <leo-the-manic> For Ubuntu Server: is eBox still a thing? Does it have a homepage? Has it become "zentyal.org" somehow?
[15:36] <leo-the-manic> I am new and just came across some documentation about eBox but can't find any info for it on the web, other than community Ubuntu help
[15:36] <blazemore> leo-the-manic: What is eBox?
[15:36] <Pici> !ebox
[15:37] <blazemore> leo-the-manic: Sounds like webmin
[15:37] <macondo> If lsusb shows that my device is connected to Bus 004 Device 002, which ttyUSB port should I use?
[15:37] <blazemore> macondo: Is this for a serial terminal device connected over USB?
[15:37] <MasterProgram> blazemore: did you get a chance to check my gist yet?
[15:38] <blazemore> MasterProgram: Sorry I missed it earlier. "sudo apt-get -f install" and gist any errors please :)
[15:38] <macondo> blazemore: no, it's a usb device (specifically HP calculator)
[15:38] <blazemore> macondo: What are you asking then? What's a ttyUSB port?
[15:39] <macondo> blazemore: I have an application (HP Talx 1.3.1) which is asking for a ttyUSB port to connect to the calculator
[15:39] <macondo> and I'm not sure what to set it to
[15:39] <blazemore> macondo: Are there options for it, or is it just asking for an input?
[15:40] <macondo> blazemore: default is 0, but can be set to 1, 2, ...
[15:40] <MasterProgram> I'm assuming that the -f in the command tells the computer to fix all broken packages and the output didn't display any errors and/or fixes need?
[15:40] <blazemore> macondo: Try them all :P
[15:40] <blazemore> MasterProgram: Something like that. Pastebin the output and let me decide :)
[15:40] <Tomy2938> How can I mount this remote NFS mont to be RW on the second system?
[15:41] <blazemore> !nfs | Tomy2938 I'm assuming you've read this
[15:41] <b636bc7ca> I have a flat directory full of MP3 and FLAC files, named something like "Artist - Album - 01 Track Title.mp3", and I want to move that into a directory structure like "Artist/Album/01 Track Title.mp3"; because some things might have special characters like ', I wanted to use "find . -type f -exec..." to do this, but I can't figure out how to pipe commands to each other in -exec
[15:41] <b636bc7ca> any pointers would be welcome
[15:41] <MasterProgram> blazemore: gist has been updated, https://gist.github.com/MasterProgram/e1b7e4132e58cf558e63
[15:42] <waterlite> hmm
[15:44] <obert> hi, how can i fix a bad mysql upgrade, please?
[15:44] <blazemore> obert: Just out of interest, are you getting the error "mysql-server-5.5 : Depends: mysql-server-core-5.5 (= 5.5.32-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>) but 5.5.32-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> is to be installed"
[15:44] <siva> hi every one
[15:44] <Xor64> hmmm, aticonfig says that no supported adapters were detected
[15:44] <blazemore> hi Guest43669
[15:44] <Guest43669> does anyone know about mininet......
[15:44] <somsip> b636bc7ca: maybe you can use this as a starting point. Easier than trying to come up with a one-liner maybe? http://is.gd/C4gDFv
[15:44] <blazemore> !anyone | Guest43669
[15:44] <obert> blazemore:  invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed.
[15:45] <blazemore> obert: What is the output of "sudo service mysql restart" ?
[15:45] <b636bc7ca> somsip: That at least gives me a way forward - thank you. I had tried googling, but obviously didn't have the right GoogleFu today :)
[15:45] <Guest43669> ubottu, what you are trying to say
[15:46] <somsip> b636bc7ca: np 'linux split filename into sub directories' FWIW
[15:46] <b636bc7ca> somsip: Much obliged
[15:46] <Guest43669> How to run mininet in ubuntu
[15:46] <blazemore> Guest43669: What Ubuntu version?
[15:46] <Guest43669> blazemore, 13.04
[15:47] <Pici> Guest43669: Install the package and read the documentation at http://mininet.org/
[15:47] <MasterProgram> blazemore: have you looked at the gist from earlier to see the output from the sudo apt-get -f install command?
[15:47] <Guest43669> Pici, do you know anything about it..
[15:47] <blazemore> Guest43669: There are instructions here http://mininet.org/download/ look at "Option 3 - Native Installation from Packages"
[15:47] <Pici> Guest43669: No. I don't
[15:47] <Pici> !info mininet
[15:47] <blazemore> MasterProgram: yes
[15:47] <obert> blazemore: configuration of mysql-server-5.5 (5.5.32-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>)... start: Job failed to start
[15:47] <obert>
[15:47] <Guest43669> blazemore, what about ..do you know anything about it
[15:48] <blazemore> obert: Please can you pastebin the full output
[15:48] <blazemore> Guest43669: What do you want to know specifically? What part of the instructions aren't working for you?
[15:48] <obert> blazemore: the output of what? sudo apt-get update or upgrade?
[15:48] <Xor64> blazemore: earlier you told me to use aticonfig --initial, but it says "no supported adapter detected"
[15:48] <blazemore> Xor64: Did the packages install OK?
[15:49] <gschanuel> hello folks. I need some help with git.. I forked a project that I'm helping with translations. I have a computer used with development and another for testing. The environment I want to use is: 1) on dev_pc I change, commit and push. 2) on testing_pc I fetch and merge. The thing is, on testing_pc i need to change 3 files that will always remain the same, so I don't want to replace when I do a fetch.. how can I achieve that?
[15:49] <Xor64> blazemore: Well, I used the Software package installer GUI to install the proprietary drivers, and installed the remaining packets that were not installed
[15:49] <Guest43669> blazemore, first things is how to start mininet..and how it works ???? dont tell me see dash dash document...i have read everything but i am not getting actuall what it do
[15:50] <Xor64> blazemore: everything went okay during install
[15:50] <blazemore> Guest43669: Scroll down to Option 3 in the document and follow the instructions
[15:50] <b636bc7ca> gschanuel: http://blog.apiaxle.com/post/handy-git-tips-to-stop-you-getting-fired/
[15:50] <Guest43669> blazemore, ok ok thank u
[15:50] <blazemore> Guest43669: If you aren't capable of following the instructions, look at Option 1, which is where the mininet developers have pre-prepared an Ubuntu virtual machine image with mininet installed
[15:50] <gschanuel> b636bc7ca, nice :) thanks
[15:51] <blazemore> Xor64: Is Additional Drivers tool saying the proprietry driver is in use?
[15:51] <streulma> hello, I had to reset my Macbook Pro and my screen is flickering now, how can I reset EFI? I was installing Ubuntu with EFI
[15:52] <Guest43669> blazemore, sir i have installed it ...no problem with it..i just want to for what purpose it will be used
[15:52] <blazemore> streulma: Flickering screen sounds like a hardware issue...
[15:52] <Xor64> blazemore: Yep, it says 2 proprietary drivers are in use (there's my broadcom wifi controller too)
[15:52] <blazemore> Guest43669: Well I don't even know what it is, presumably you knew what it was when you wanted to install it?
[15:52] <blazemore> Guest43669: Why did you want to install it if you don't even know what it is used for?
[15:53] <Guest43669> blazemore, sorry i will get to u after reading what actually it is...
[15:54] <blazemore> Guest43669: OK I'm actually curious now so this is a real question: Why did you want to install it if you don't even know what it is used for?
[15:55] <obert> blazemore: http://pastebin.com/ZwgM2N54 (sorry it is in italian)
[15:55] <themhz> is there anything similar to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunascape?
[15:55] <themhz> in ubuntu
[15:55] <themhz> ?
[15:56] <Guest43669> blazemore, ok ...i am doing pg in information security ...so i got an assignment from my instructor of a particular course to simulate lan or wan by using mininet..but after installing it i got the confusion how to start ..and where to start
[15:57] <blazemore> Guest43669: Most IRC channels won't help you with assignments
[15:57] <Xor64> blazemore: I have even tried with the new "/usr/lib/fglrx/bin/amdconfig --initial" for post 2012 december drivers, and still the same error "No supported adapters detected"
[15:58] <blazemore> Guest43669: I'd start by reading the mininet documentation - once you've got it installed, my work here is done, so to speak
[15:58] <blazemore> Xor64: What graphics card did you have again?
[15:59] <Guest43669> blazemore, i did not asked anyone to do my assignment...i am new to linux operating system..thats why i asked if anyone knows about mininet ..did u got it
[15:59] <Xor64> blazemore: an ATI Radeon HD 7670M
[15:59] <blazemore> Xor64: And is this Ubuntu 13.04?
[16:00] <Xor64> blazemore: Yes it is
[16:00] <blazemore> Xor64: sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh && sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
[16:00] <blazemore> Xor64: Then follow instructions on this page http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide#Installing_Proprietary_Drivers_a.k.a._Catalyst.2Ffglrx
[16:00] <maxi12> q
[16:00] <maxi12> q
[16:00] <maxi12> q
[16:00] <FloodBot1> maxi12: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:01] <ActionPa1snip> Guest43669: is it like a virtual network simulator?
[16:01] <ActionPa1snip> !info mininet
[16:01] <TimR>  can anybody tell me tell me how to get Linksys USB100TX usb adapter to work on ubuntu 12.04.2lts
[16:01] <Xor64> blazemore: Alright thanks, will try, although, it says fglrx-uninstall.sh doesn't exist
[16:01] <blazemore> Oh
[16:02] <Guest43669> Action
[16:02] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: what network chip does it use?
[16:02] <TimR> how do I know that?
[16:02] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: sudo lshw -C network; lsusb      will give you information, you can use parts of the output to find guides
[16:02] <TimR> alright let me go plug it in
[16:03] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: try not to get tied up with the pretty plastic case, you need to know the chips inside
[16:03] <ffio> is ubuntu and debian exactly similar in all aspects ?
[16:03] <blazemore> ffio: No, or there'd be no point in them being different distros now would there :P
[16:04] <maxi12> q
[16:04] <maxi12> q
[16:04] <maxi12> q
[16:04] <maxi12> q
[16:04] <FloodBot1> maxi12: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:04] <Guest43669> ActionPalsnip, ok ..how to run mininet..means when i run the command gave in the document it went on creating new networks upto 100...this caused me my network connection down
[16:04] <blazemore> ikonia: ping
[16:04] <shine_> test
[16:04] <supNow> Anyone in here actually work for Ubuntu?
[16:04] <blazemore> for Canonical?
[16:04] <shine_> :)
[16:04] <ikonia> blazemore: hello
[16:04] <supNow> Ubuntu has an office in Bedford, MA
[16:04] <supNow> I'm looking to reach them
[16:05] <ffio> blazemore: whats the main difference between ubuntu and debian ?
[16:05] <ikonia> blazemore: did you want me ?
[16:05] <gribouille> hi
[16:05] <obert> ...
[16:05] <gribouille> what does "extent format" mean?
[16:06] <blazemore> supNow: http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/contact
[16:06] <blazemore> gribouille: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extent_%28file_systems%29
[16:07] <supNow> thanks @blazemore I'm actually looking for a number. I got my office all using Ubuntu now and we run Party Cruises out of Boston every Thursday and would like to invite Ubuntu to join us on one
[16:07] <blazemore> supNow: You should learn the name of the company first to avoid embarrasing yourself
[16:08] <supNow> the name on the door is Ubuntu... I'm not embaressed
[16:08] <blazemore> Ubuntu is an operating system
[16:08] <supNow> they are downstairs from ipswich
[16:08] <blazemore> Canonical don't have offices in North America do they?
[16:08] <supNow> Bedford, Ma
[16:09] <blazemore> supNow: nope http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/contact/our-offices
[16:09] <supNow> I did a web project for ipswich and ubuntu was on the first floor
[16:09] <blazemore> supNow: Whoever's in there, it's not Canonical
[16:09] <obert> thanks the same. later
[16:09] <supNow> well I'm not looking canonical
[16:09] <supNow> I'm looking for the ubuntu group :)
[16:09] <blazemore> Canonical is the company behind Ubuntu
[16:09] <supNow> right but ubuntu is a group from MIT
[16:09] <supNow> that's who I'm looking for
[16:09] <supNow> but thanks for the help anyway
[16:09] <blazemore> Are you looking for some sort of user group?
[16:09] <blazemore> Like a community group?
[16:09] <akinesie> hello
[16:10] <DJones> supNow: Its not exactlly a support issue, you'd be better asking in #ubuntu-offtopic rather here
[16:10] <blazemore> he was a wind-up
[16:11] <cinvoke> ok i have an issue with xubuntu 13.04.  it halts on boot at "checking battery state".  After that, i cnt alt f1 and use xinit and xfce4-session.  im seeing issues with glib also.  not sure if thats causing it. Please help. more details here:http://pastebin.com/sHGNGTtP
[16:11] <b0x> im trying to create a long string for a bash script, but the appends aren't working.. for ex: VAR1="foo" VAR1+="bar" .. $VAR1 = foobar
[16:11] <blazemore> !xubuntu | cinvoke
[16:12] <b0x> is that the correct syntax?
[16:12] <ActionPa1snip> cinvoke: does the system have a make and model?
[16:12] <ActionPa1snip> cinvoke: do you use proprietary video drivers?
[16:12] <blazemore> b0x: I'd say VAR1=$VAR1bar
[16:12] <b0x> :/
[16:12] <blazemore> b0x: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4181703/how-can-i-concatenate-string-variables-in-bash
[16:13] <cinvoke> ActionPa1snip: im running virtualbox on an hp 6510b.  i didnt install any prop drivers
[16:13] <cinvoke> blazemore: i tried that room, but never get answers :)
[16:14] <cinvoke> blazemore: ill try again
[16:14] <TimR> its showing linksys usb 100tx ethernet pegasus 0066:2203
[16:14] <ActionPa1snip> b0x: VAR1="foo"; VAR1=${VAR1}bar     maybe
[16:14] <b0x> blazemore: http://pastebin.com/1cF9w1bB
[16:14] <b0x> is current script
[16:14] <b0x> as far as im reading, you can use +=
[16:14] <kevin> how install pgdin in backtrack
[16:15] <blazemore> !backtrack | kevin
[16:15] <TimR> its 066b:2203*
[16:15] <b0x> however results dont reflect this
[16:15] <ActionPa1snip> b0x: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5993316/
[16:16] <b0x> ok great, thanks!
[16:16] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: http://wikidevi.com/wiki/Linksys_USB100TX_v3.0
[16:18] <streulma> My screen was flickering in Macbook Pro after resetting power. I had tis 2x more on other Macbooks, after a time the screen stops flickering.
[16:18] <TimR> alright so how do I get the drivers or what ever to load?
[16:19] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: could try ndiswrapper + windows driver
[16:19] <TimR> ok
[16:19] <cinvoke> ActionPa1snip: should i try reinstalling the desktop?
[16:19] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: seems to be a broadcom BCM5201 chip
[16:19] <tsunamie> what happens to rsyslogs that are getting sent to remote servers and don't get accept. for example if your shipping them to graylogs2 and graylog2 is down. will the messages just be lost into the eithier and never get resent to graylog2?
[16:19] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: see if you can find guides for hat
[16:20] <b0x> ActionPa1snip: how do i escape a variable declaration??
[16:20] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: you did read the page I gave, right?
[16:20] <TimR> yes I am reading it right now
[16:20] <ActionPa1snip> b0x: use a '\' to escape stuff
[16:20] <b0x> ie.. ok
[16:20] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: the you would have seen the chip, so you could find guides. right?
[16:21] <TimR> well im trying to find the guides
[16:22] <mmhun> This may not be the right place to ask (if so where do I go?) but about how many bits per second (of bandwidth) would an ssh session use? Assuming I'm constantly cat'ing a log or something.
[16:22] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: try:  sudo modprobe bcm5201      is there any output?
[16:22] <TimR> well I have to switch wireless connection really quick
[16:22] <ActionPa1snip> mmhun: if its just text, not a lot
[16:23] <mmhun> ActionPa1snip,  yes just text, and I know it's definitely not a lot, just wondering about what the max transfer rate is
[16:24] <TimR_> its not found there Action
[16:24] <ActionPa1snip> mmhun: http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1166636   at the bootom
[16:24] <ActionPa1snip> mmhun: took me about 30 seconds to find...
[16:24] <ActionPa1snip> TimR: then I'd go the ndiswrapper
[16:25] <TimR_> ok
[16:26] <b0x> ActionPa1snip: I'm declaring a string like this: DB_URL="mysql://user:pass@localhost:3306/$1\_d7" , but its coming back/return as: You are about to CREATE  the 'testsite1\_d7' database.
[16:26] <b0x> when passing testsite1 as the argument
[16:27] <ActionPa1snip> b0x: i'd ask in #bash
[16:27] <mmhun> ActionPa1snip: I was wondering more about the implementation of ssh… not just a calculation. I'm assuming there's some sort of rate limit on it.
[16:27] <b0x> ta
[16:27] <prappl93> How do I access my Windows files across my network on Ubuntu 13.04?
[16:27] <ZIPY> prappl93: you need to install samba
[16:28] <prappl93> Thought so, for some reason I thought that came pre-packaged
[16:28] <prappl93> Thanks!
[16:29] <moondog> if I had an external hard drive that I wanted to use for backing up my Ubuntu system, would I typically leave it formatted NTFS or reformat it to EXT4?
[16:29] <moondog> thinking I'd use rsync
[16:33] <nogloww> Would someone be willing to help me with my track pad issues? I have searched forum after forum and can't find an answer. Any help would be appreciated. I hope I'm in the right place.
[16:35] <nogloww> This is an Ubuntu support chat right?
[16:35] <DJones> nogloww: It is
[16:35] <Tomy2938> no
[16:36] <Tomy2938> ;-)
[16:40] <nogloww> Would someone be willing to help me with my track pad issues? I have searched forum after forum and can't find an answer. Any help would be appreciated.
[16:40] <hio> so when can i get the ubuntu phone?
[16:40] <wow050> Hello, does anyone know how I can assign a drive letter to a flash drive?
[16:40] <DJones> !phone | hio
[16:40] <hio> a "drive letter"? no such thing in linux
[16:41] <hio> flash drives are under /media or something
[16:41] <wow050> hio, I know but I want to assign one for when I use it on Windows
[16:42] <gmj> anyone got experience with spice?
[16:43] <nogloww> anyone having trouble with elantech or synaptics track pads and ubuntu? once I installed ubuntu the track pad quit working
[16:43] <hio> How do I uninstall Ubuntu and get myself a real OS?
[16:44] <DJones> hio: Install the os you want over the top of Ubuntu
[16:44] <nogloww> hio- I haven't had any luck reinstalling another os if ubuntu is the sole os
[16:44] <hio> But how do I get rid of the nightmares?
[16:44] <nogloww> hio-heavy drugs
[16:44] <linuxliam> take sleeping pills ;)
[16:45] <iluvalar> Hi everyone, I'm running minecraft on oracle-sun on my nvdia driver... so I know I'm Evil but...
[16:45] <hio> Elementary OS is a billion times better than Ubuntu and you know it
[16:45] <iluvalar> I found out that when I send the game into another workplace, it solve my lag problems for about 10 more minutes...
[16:46] <linuxliam> DJones: gah the trolls
[16:46] <iluvalar> isn't there any other way to flush the gfx cache I could try ?
[16:47] <iluvalar> (I guess that's what happen when I switch workplaces...)
[16:47] <streulma> Ubuntu on a Mac :S
[16:47] <DJones> nogloww: Although I can't help with your issue, it might help people in the channel if you can give more details, what happens, what you expect to happen etc
[16:48] <linuxliam> iluvalar: you could also try using open jdk (mojosays it not supported it works fine )
[16:48] <iluvalar> linuxliam: yeah it work just fine here as well. but that doesnt help my lag issues...
[16:49] <streulma> is it better to run Ubuntu on a Mac in legacy BIOS mode then EFI? I had problems with EFI.
[16:49] <linuxliam> iluvalar: ah ok
[16:51] <iluvalar> linuxliam: Actually, I really looking just for a way to flush my cache. And see if it solve my problem
[16:51] <iluvalar> switching workplaces do... which is interesting...
[16:51] <nogloww> DJones- Once I installed Ubuntu over windows my trackpad is unresponsive, jerkey, and pretty much useless. The hard buttons still work but when I try to navigate it is unpredictable. Moves slightly but never where it's supposed to go.
[16:54] <nogloww> Has anyone else had similar track pad issues? I posted the question several times in the forums but no one has been able to help.
[16:55] <cff9> hi
[16:55] <linuxliam> iluvalar: cnt seem to find much on google
[16:59] <pc_magas> Hello I wonder is a program similar to Gwibber for ubuntu that support google+?
[16:59] <pc_magas> except the google+ plugin for firefox and Chromium
[17:01] <linuxliam> pc_magas: as far as im aware there isnt one yet
[17:01] <linuxliam> i've been looking myself
[17:01] <intrader> Everyone, I have it up to .... with Unity. The action of trying to grab the borders of a window  is just about impossible to achieve. Difficult to the hilt.  Similarly getting the menu actions of Freemind or Gvim is difficult.
[17:03] <iluvalar> linuxliam: well.. thank you anyway
[17:03] <OerHeks> intrader on ubuntu 13.04 : ALT + midlle mouse to auto grab to resize, or ALT + left mouse to grab and drag, hold windows key for more keys
[17:03] <iluvalar> linuxliam: I'm not sure how much, switching the workplace in troublesome anyway... I might just keep doing this
[17:04] <linuxliam> iluvalar:  sorry i could'nt be of more help
[17:04] <OerHeks> middle mouse can be pressing scrollwheel
[17:05] <intrader> OerHeks, yes, but I can't achieve without lots of luck. The action is too fast
[17:09] <dougbb> I'm having a problem with the software updater ... it says that there are 7 updates available, but when I do 'show updates' nothing appears in the window. Is there a way to reset that?
[17:10] <moondog> if I had an external hard drive that I wanted to use for backing up my Ubuntu system, would I typically leave it formatted NTFS or reformat it to EXT4?
[17:11] <moondog> thinking I'd use rsync
[17:11] <DJones> dougbb: I had that issue a couple of days ago, I tried waiting a couple of days with no change, in the end, I updated via terminal so that I could at least see what the updates were, since then its been fine
[17:12] <dougbb> moondog, if you're going to put Linux-only data on there, better to reformat. NTFS is fine for data, but  when mounted every file has the executable bit set, which is rough on backups
[17:12] <dougbb> DJones: do you have the 'update via terminal' commands handy?  I am familiar with the command line, but still learning debian/ubunty
[17:13] <dougbb> err, ubuntu as well :)
[17:13] <moondog> dougbb: right, permissions would be messed up if it's NTFS. I guess it would depend on if I need to read the data in Windows.
[17:13] <DJones> dougbb: sudo apt-get upate and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:13] <b636bc7ca> "apt-date update", not "upate" :)
[17:13] <dougbb> moondog, exactly .... although there is a decent read-only ext driver for windows, only works up to ext3 though IIRC
[17:13] <DJones> dougbb: sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:13] <DJones> b636bc7ca: Good spot
[17:13] <dougbb> DJones: and b636bc7ca, thanks :)
[17:14] <moondog> dougbb: thanks for the info :)
[17:16] <dougbb> moondog: http://www.ext2fsd.com/
[17:16] <intrader> OerHeks, I am not trying to move a window, just resize by grabbing borders or corners
[17:16] <moondog> thanks, I'll take a look
[17:17] <dougbb> I've used that for read-only, but I don't mount the systems regularly, and although they support writing it's not like "robust windows file system" type of write support, FYI
[17:17] <OerHeks> intrader ALT + press scrollwheel does it instantly
[17:18] <dougbb> so is anyone else seeing this weird problem with software updater? I know they pushed an update to it recently, is there a bug that is being worked on which is well known, or should I go peruse launchpad?
[17:19] <intrader> OerHeks, I am sorry, I have no wheel (it is lenovo laptop). Thanks for your help
[17:20] <tapFizzle> hello all, i'm trying to understand better the status of iU in dpkg -l   if its installed but still unpacked, does that mean that the installation did not complete?
[17:20] <intrader> OerHeks, ... it grabs the border to resize?
[17:21] <OerHeks> intrader yes, just hang on the window, and you grab it like the corner.
[17:21] <OerHeks> intrader mayby both touchpad keys work as 3th mousekey ?
[17:24] <intrader> OerHeks, when the mouse approaches the border or corner, it fleetingly changes but the action disappears quickly.
[17:25] <intrader> OerHeks, since 11.04 ( I am running 12.04) all sort of stuff is weird with Unity. Last time it worked Ok was with 10.4
[17:26] <trism> tapFizzle: the first character is the desired status, the second is the actual package status
[17:27] <ffio> when i am installing scponly it says it is not installable ? why is that so ? how can i install that package ?
[17:29] <OerHeks> intrader ohh awesome, ALT + F8 does the same
[17:29] <DJones> ffio: Is that meant to be 'scponly' os 'scp'
[17:29] <ffio> DJones: scponly
[17:29] <OerHeks> intrader, hold the windows key for more help on keys
[17:29] <DJones> !find scponly
[17:30] <trism> ffio: it was deleted because of http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=650590
[17:30] <intrader> OerHeks, I don't think I have described the problem properly. Sorry.
[17:30] <ffio> trism: ok :) is their any replacement to that package ?
[17:31] <OerHeks> intrader i understand you want to resize by the corner, and the sensitivity is too high?
[17:32] <intrader> OerHeks, yes, but doing it is just about impossible as to catch the border or corner is very difficult
[17:33] <intrader> OerHeks, what sensitivity setting?
[17:33] <OerHeks> intrader, so with ALT + F8 you grab the window in resize mode, where ever you hold your mouse on the window
[17:34] <OerHeks> intrader, i cannot find sensitive settings for those corners.
[17:36] <trism> ffio: the bug mentions you can do it directly with sshd now, something like: http://serverfault.com/questions/83856/allow-scp-but-not-actual-login-using-ssh/83971#83971 (I haven't tried it though)
[17:37] <trism> ffio: oh seems there is also a debian admin article linked in the bug: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590
[17:37] <intrader> OerHeks, for example I just started Gvim. Moved the window to the middle of the screen. Then I trity to size by grabbing the border or the corner. Almost impossible; specially the right or left borders or the left or right bottom corners
[17:37] <ffio> trism: that was a hell lot of info :D
[17:39] <intrader> OerHeks, Alt + F8 will do, thanks
[17:39] <OerHeks> intrader, have fun :-)
[17:40] <ffio> trism: thank you so much :)
[17:41] <intrader> OerHeks, Unity s... Terryble, this was just one of the problems - the top menus bar action is strange.
[17:41] <SierraAR> Running lubuntu 12.04, I can't login to my system. When I enter my password on the login screen and click 'login', it flashes a couple black screens with text, then goes back to the login screen. I know the password is correct because I /can/ login through ctrl+alt+f1. I'm also able to log into the guest session just fine.
[17:42] <leo-the-manic> Is there any difference between 'aptititude install x' and 'apt-get install x'?
[17:42] <leo-the-manic> Or do they do the exact same thing?
[17:42] <holstein> SierraAR: i would say that is an issue with the session files in the users /home .config.. or something related to the desktop config.. i would blow them out or move them, and try again
[17:43] <DJones> !aptitude | leo-the-manic
[17:44] <SierraAR> holstein: Just tried that, still having the same issue
[17:45] <holstein> SierraAR: i dont think you moved what is broken then... what *exactly* did you try?
[17:46] <hdhdhd> Can anyone see what info is displayed of me?
[17:46] <holstein> hdhdhd: i see what you just typed, if thats what you are asking
[17:46] <SierraAR> holstein: I moved ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/desktop.conf to a temporary directory in my home folder. That was the only config file I could find in my home directory that looked like it could be related to the desktop. It doesn't look like a new desktop.conf was generated, either. I've also just checked ~/.xsession-errors to see if there was anything there and it's empty.
[17:47] <holstein> SierraAR: i would move the *entire* .config .. then, i would move more or all .hidden config files to "fix" the misconfiguration
[17:51] <exidos> hi
[17:51] <SierraAR> holstein: Renamed .config to .config.backup and rebooted, but I'm still having the same issue. It didn't generate a new .config either.
[17:52] <SierraAR> holstein: Actually, I vaguely recall coming across something awhile back about not being able to login if a file locking a session wasn't cleared on shutdown or something to that effect, but I can't remember the details or where I saw that
[17:53] <holstein> SierraAR: it should have.. and will , when you do it properly.. what do i suggest? create a new user.. log in as that user, and test.. see that the system is fine, and it is just your user account that you have broken
[17:53] <holstein> SierraAR: you can always remove *everything* from your user /home, and test.. and put back what you want
[17:55] <DJones> !rootirc | hdhdhd
[17:56] <aName_b0rked> hmm. my linux box seems to have locked up.
[17:56] <aName_b0rked> hmm. my linux box seems to have locked up/
[17:56] <aName_b0rked> Anyone know how to get it back without rebooting?
[17:56] <noob123> hello, my monitor is not working in ubuntu. It says unknow under the desiplay settings. I have video drivers. Anyone know what to do?
[17:56] <aName_b0rked> (sorry, the keyboard on the machine I'm using is strangely laid out)
[17:57] <cppCzar> Hello
[17:57] <SierraAR> holstein: I am able to log into the guest session. I've also created a new user and was able to log into that without an isse.
[17:58] <ffio_> i have created a virtual ubuntu machine and when i do scp to that machine it says connetion refused port 22
[17:58] <ffio_> i have installed ssh
[17:58] <SierraAR> holstein: I'm going to see what moving everything in the broken users homedir does.
[17:58] <cppCzar> You know the "username@hostname:~$" prompt? How do I change these two names?
[17:58] <intrader> OerHeks, thanks for hanging in there for me
[17:58] <ffio_> cppCzar: in .bashrc
[17:58] <holstein> SierraAR: then, the issue, friend, is with the /home of the user.. go ahead and remove *all* the data in the user home.. move it to a different location, and try logging in.. put back what you need/want
[17:59] <noob123> hello, my monitor is not working in ubuntu. It says unknow under the desiplay settings. I have video drivers. Anyone know what to do?
[17:59] <SierraAR> holstein: Just tried that, still the same issue. I completely moved /home/sierra to /home/sierra.backup
[17:59] <holstein> SierraAR: then, enjoy using the new user account you created
[17:59] <daftykins> ffio_: 'openssh-server' ?
[18:00] <daftykins> ^ is installed?
[18:00] <SierraAR> holstein: Is there a way to remove the other user without deleting its homedir, then create a new user that has the same perms and homedir as the old one?
[18:00] <cppCzar> I don't see anythin in .bashrc related to this
[18:00] <ffio_> daftykins: openssh-server is installed
[18:01] <holstein> SierraAR: im sure there are lots of ways to migrate to a new user
[18:01] <ffio_> daftykins: might be it be something related to virtualbox ?
[18:01] <hdhdhd> Do you use a virtual machine for UBUNTU?
[18:01] <cinvoke> ok i have an issue with xubuntu 13.04.  it halts on boot at "checking battery state".  After that, i cnt alt f1 and use xinit and xfce4-session.  im seeing issues with glib also.  not sure if thats causing it. Please help. more details here:http://pastebin.com/AUDAjk9e
[18:01] <daftykins> ffio_: you're networked with the VM by bridging so it has an IP on your physical network? also, could be ufw
[18:02] <tripelb> libreoffice3 question, ok? hi. how can i get a simple single Business card template in which, I make one card and it repeats across the page. .. or another program?
[18:03] <holstein> tripelb: i found it in the menu
[18:03] <DJones> tripelb: Have a look at gLabels I used it once for label printing, but I think it can do business cards as well
[18:05] <DJones> tripelb: Or as holstein said, libreoffice writer -> File -> New -> Business cards
[18:06] <tripelb> holstein. ones in menu do not work. all became doublesize and wont go single. force fields. done allow shit. (vistacard works but $$) I can dance rings w.vistac.
[18:06] <holstein> tripelb: !language
[18:06] <IdleOne> !language
[18:07] <ffio_> daftykins: removed and reinstalled openssh-client and openssh-server now works :)
[18:07] <tripelb> djones will try glabels. libre sucks sand.
[18:08] <tripelb>  thankd holstein DJones
[18:09] <cppCzar> How do I change my username in ubuntu? I did not find anything in .bashrc
[18:09] <holstein> cppCzar: there is a user account GUI