[02:33] <scguy318> slowthy: I think Zunes don't show at all, but then I don't own one
[02:33] <slowthy> they dont
[02:33] <CommonClone> jrib: I'm dumb...let me try
[02:33] <CaptainBoots> I just updated to the latest version of Ubuntu and I'm now getting an error message saying that the Gnome Settings Daemon failed to load, that it was started too many times???  Has anyone come across this issue and know of a fix?
[02:33] <kelsin> CaptainBoots: you should check for errors in ~/.xsession-errors
[02:34] <yaro> Anyway, my problem is this: My sound on Flash has stopped working, and every solution I found on the forums didn't work.
[02:34] <CaptainBoots> Thanks Kelsin let me dive in there real quick
[02:35] <RazzoRz> How does one get there mic working in gusty?
[02:35] <scguy318> slowthy: there's no current solution for syncing a Zune with a Linux machine, you'll have to use XP somehow, either virtualized or actual
[02:35] <scguy318> slowthy: and it's a bit understandable, since guess who's selling the Zune? :P
[02:35] <CommonClone> jrib: in /dev, there is no hd*, so I guess linux isn't detecting it, any ideas?
[02:35] <yaro> I have one, jrib/.
[02:36] <jrib> CommonClone: sda?
[02:36] <hellonull> ghost: would avant-window-navigator repos (tuxfamily.org) be a potential source of this problem?
[02:36] <yaro> Yis. That was what I was going to say.
[02:36] <jrib> yaro: one what?
[02:36] <scguy318> CommonClone: Ubuntu assigns all disks an sd* name
[02:36] <CommonClone> jrib: NOPE
[02:36] <yaro> Look for an sda in /dev/
[02:36] <CommonClone> opps sorry
[02:36] <jrib> CommonClone: what does 'sudo fdisk -l' do?
[02:36] <Flannel> slowthy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol  Check down at the bottom for the linux libraries/progrmas
[02:37] <CommonClone> jrib: nothing
[02:37] <Frederick> folks I still unable to set up my xserver up with my geforce 8800
[02:37] <adante> hi
[02:37] <adante> if i apt-get source something where does it go?
[02:37] <jrib> adante: current working directory
[02:37] <lex_> Frederick: you ahve envy installed?
[02:38] <Frederick> lex_: what?
[02:38] <nerdsquad3210> when will linux come up with dynamic swaping ?
[02:38] <tatttors> how do I give my username permission to write to /var/www?
[02:38] <yaro> sudo
[02:38] <regeya> meh.  dynamic swapping is overrated.
[02:38] <tatttors> sudo what
[02:38] <smooker4> but when i want to save torrents to /media/sda6 the programs azureus and KTorrent fail cant create directory for the torrent
[02:38] <Frederick> smooker4: check chmod
[02:38] <lex_> Frederick: to get the latest driver ect setup for my 8800, i downloaded an instller called Envy to do the leg work
[02:38] <yaro> Depends on what exactly you are writing.
[02:39] <smooker4> how ?
[02:39] <jrib> !permissions > tatttors (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:39] <scguy318> tatttors: add your username to the group owner for /var/www, change ownership/group for /var/www, etc.
[02:39] <Frederick> lex_: oki I wiill check it now
[02:39] <tatttors> I want to create and save files into the directory
[02:39] <Frederick> but I got no xserver can I get it on apt?
[02:39] <scguy318> tatttors: and possibly check actual permissions
[02:39] <CaptainBoots> Kelsin, I'm not seeing anything that's teliing me anything about Gnome-settings daemon in the xsession-errors file
[02:39] <tatttors> scguy: how
[02:39] <Frederick> lwhat is leg work?
[02:39] <yaro> Usually I just use sudo to elevate myself to root to write to those. Rarely do I do this unless I'm fixing problems.
[02:40] <scguy318> tatttors: sudo chmod -R user:group /var/www, and sudo usermod something
[02:40] <scguy318> tatttors: the PM sent by ubotu might be of interest
[02:40] <tatttors> k
[02:40] <scguy318> Frederick: if you're talking about Ubuntu Server install the ubuntu-desktop package
[02:40] <tatttors> err
[02:40] <tatttors> thats just file directorys
[02:40] <tatttors> I need file permissions
[02:40] <SpookyET> Should gnome main menu favorites list the most used apps?
[02:40] <Frederick> scguy318: man I got a desktop xserver is fucked up and gives me no decent error log
[02:40] <jrib> tatttors: ubotu's link answers your question
[02:41] <SpookyET> Why doesn't the list get updated?
[02:41] <LjL> !language | Frederick
[02:41] <ubotu> Frederick: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:41] <scguy318> Frederick: /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[02:41] <RazzoRz> can does the MIC option on gusty work??
[02:41] <Frederick> and it didnt boot on the first install it seems to halt on a black screen
[02:41] <kelsin> CaptainBoots: if you try running it in a term does anything happen?
[02:41] <scguy318> Frederick: have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[02:41] <Frederick> yep
[02:41] <tatttors> no it doesn't...
[02:41] <scguy318> Frederick: and what's the current issue?
[02:41] <tatttors> it just explains filesystems but not permissions
[02:41] <nerdsquad3210> ! when will linux come up with dynamic swaping ? why can linux use the free space on the root partition dynamicaly ?
[02:41] <Frederick> I got an lcd monit might be part of the problem
[02:41] <Frederick> scguy318: x does not boot
[02:42] <CaptainBoots> Kelsin, If I try running what in term? The Gnome Settings daemon?
[02:42] <Frederick> says the user has no right halts in the case of root
[02:42] <scguy318> Frederick: well yeah but what does the log say?
[02:42] <kelsin> CaptainBoots: yes
[02:42] <kelsin> CaptainBoots: "gnome-settings-daemon"
[02:42] <Frederick> scguy318: I will check again give me a sec
[02:42] <LjL> nerdsquad3210, a swap file can be used, not sure if dynamic is supported. but that has its own set of issues... for starters, if you use a file (especially a growing/shrinking one), fragmentation may arise. also, you don't have any control where on the disk the file is located generally speaking
[02:42] <Frederick> I need to get off here cause I dont have multiple screens
[02:42] <Frederick> dont aske me why
[02:42] <jrib> tatttors: it links you to it
[02:42] <scguy318> tatttors: that link ubotu PMed you links to this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[02:42] <Frederick> alt fxx does not changes the screen
[02:43] <regeya> nerdsquad3210: from my own experience, if you've filled swap space to capacity, there's a problem aside from running out of swap.  having the oom killer kick in is a huge wake-up call :->
[02:43] <kelsin> nerdsquad3210: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/550
[02:43] <CaptainBoots> Kelsin, this is what's displayed:
[02:43] <kelsin> nerdsquad3210: first hit in google, might not be what you want but sounds like it
[02:43] <CaptainBoots> [1196822554,000,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_start_listen/]    The backend does not require manual layout management - but it is provided by the application[1196822554,000,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_start_listen/]       The backend does not require manual layout management - but it is provided by the applicationCould not initialize GStreamer: Error re-scanning registry , child terminated by signal
[02:43] <BSG75> which one am I suppose to install azureus or azureus-gcj please?
[02:43] <RazzoRz> I am sorry is this a TUFF question???
[02:44] <jrib> !please > RazzoRz (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:44] <kelsin> nerdsquad3210: http://cvs.linux.hr/swapd/ there is the second google hit, also looks interesting
[02:44] <jsoftw> its UBER TUFF
[02:44] <BSG75> okay let me rephrase .. which one will NOT suck my system dry :)
[02:44] <scguy318> BSG75: azureus probably, unless you want to use GCJ, and I hear Azureus on GCJ has issues
[02:44] <scguy318> BSG75: they both will, kinda :P
[02:44] <hockeyfan5000> BSG75: Azurues  but I would recommend trying Deluge
[02:44] <nerdsquad3210> i meant fot you to included it i dont understand anything about linux
[02:44] <BSG75> thanki :) ..
[02:44] <scguy318> BSG75: Azureus, since it runs on JVM, does have some pretty high memory consumption
[02:44] <BSG75> much appreciated
[02:44] <nerdsquad3210> i just go with whats out of the box
[02:45] <RazzoRz> Wow that was a big help
[02:45] <Casey> How do I remove GRUB?
[02:45] <RazzoRz> How UBER tuff is is there ??
[02:45] <kelsin> nerdsquad3210: well since dynamic swap was a pretty advanced and unneeded feature, probably not for a while
[02:45] <scguy318> RazzoRz: question?
[02:45] <scguy318> Casey: install a different boot loader
[02:45] <RazzoRz> My mic on gusty
[02:45] <scguy318> RazzoRz: what about it?
[02:45] <yaro> Is it considered good etiquette to ask a question a second time?
[02:45] <RazzoRz> it just dont work
[02:45] <scguy318> yaro: its fine if you don't spam
[02:45] <scguy318> RazzzoRz: why not?
[02:45] <RazzoRz> sound works fine
[02:45] <RazzoRz> just notmy mic
[02:46] <Casey> scguy318: I have Win98 Dell OEM version installed and I get GRUB error 17 so I booted into a livecd. What to do?
[02:46] <scguy318> RazzzoRz: have you checked mixer settings?
[02:46] <RazzoRz> yes
[02:46] <CaptainBoots> Kelsin: [1196822554,000,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_start_listen/]    The backend does not require manual layout management - but it is provided by the application[1196822554,000,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_start_listen/]       The backend does not require manual layout management - but it is provided by the applicationCould not initialize GStreamer: Error re-scanning registry , child terminated by signal
[02:46] <RazzoRz> its no muted
[02:46] <yaro> I am having trouble getting my Flash Plugin to play sound. It used to, but now it doesn't anymore. It's been broken since at least this morning.
[02:46] <LjL> yaro just don't repeat it overly often, and be patient for answers, but since this channel scrolls fast, there's nothing wrong with restating the question once in a while
[02:46] <Robotchicken1886> hey im kind of a linux/ubuntu noob,   how would i make it so cairo-clock is always open and starts on computer start up
[02:47] <nerdsquad3210> i bet theres some way for a program to use a specific HD location
[02:47] <cabrioleur> Casey, if you want just Win98, boot with prompt and type fdisk /mbr
[02:47] <RazzoRz> sorry is there a setting that i am missing?.. what should it be set at
[02:47] <smooker4> after i changed priviledgies i stil cant save torrents or make new dirs without sudo  :(
[02:47] <Casey> cabrioleur: how?
[02:47] <kelsin> CaptainBoots: I would try backing up your gconf folder ("mv ~/.gconf ~/.gconf-bak") and see if you still have the problem
[02:47] <scguy318> RazzoRz: what audio card is it? I'm no ALSA expert unfortunately
[02:47] <scguy318> Robotchicken1886: immediate thought would be System -> Prefs -> session
[02:47] <smooker4> i need to have write read acess to /dev/sda6
[02:47] <jrib> smooker4: tell us what you did and what you are trying to do
[02:47] <RazzoRz> thats a tuff one i not sure if i know!!
[02:47] <lex_> Robotchicken1886: add the command to run it to the System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[02:47] <CaptainBoots> Okay stand by
[02:47] <jrib> smooker4: what filesystem?
[02:47] <smooker4> trying to save torrents on /dev/sda6
[02:47] <RazzoRz> tell me how to find out
[02:48] <smooker4> ExT3
[02:48] <nerdsquad3210> hes trying to make file sharers look bad
[02:48] <jrib> smooker4: no, you want to save to /media/sda6
[02:48] <cabrioleur> when you put boot from cd it will give you choices. one of them is to boot to command prompt (or something like). use win 98 cd
[02:48] <Robotchicken1886> wow im a retard thanks
[02:48] <scguy318> RazzoRz: should say in the mixer?
[02:48] <smooker4> yesx
[02:48] <ubuntu__> how do I mount my hard drive from the live cd?
[02:48] <jrib> !who | smooker4
[02:48] <ubotu> smooker4: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[02:48] <nerdsquad3210> smooker4: is trying to make file sharers look bad
[02:48] <smooker4>  i cant save to /media/sda6
[02:48] <jrib> smooker4: what is the output of: ls -ld /media/sda6
[02:48] <RazzoRz> Scguy318: yes HDA asla mixer
[02:48] <RazzoRz> Alsa**
[02:49] <RazzoRz> but i have two options
[02:49] <cabrioleur> ubuntu__, find an empty directory, and mount /dev/device /dir (replace device with the one you want to mount)
[02:49] <smooker4> drwxr-xr-x 4 smooker4 root 4096 2007-12-05 04:34 /media/sda6
[02:49] <sethk> smooker4, that's a device pseudo file
[02:49] <sethk> smooker4, no, sorry
[02:49] <scguy318> !alsa > RazzoRz (see PM from ubotu)
[02:49] <CaptainBoots> Oaky I think I'm gonna play with this some more . Thanky ou Kelsin
[02:49] <sethk> smooker4, I thought you said /dev/sda, not /media
[02:50] <scguy318> RazzoRz: I think there's some known covered issues with Intel HDA thats mentioned in the Ubuntu Wiki
[02:50] <smooker4> i was wrong i meant /media
[02:50] <RazzoRz> that or sigmatel stac9200 ( oss mixer
[02:50] <jrib> smooker4: then you can write to it.  Does 'touch /media/sda6/foobar' work?
[02:50] <ubuntu__> cabrioleur: when I do that it says I must specify a filesystem
[02:50] <ubuntu__> type*
[02:50] <sethk> smooker4, ah, ok, I thought I saw that.  Do "mount" (no arguments), make sure it isn't mounted read only.  Try a copy with sudo.
[02:50] <cabrioleur> ubuntu__, what file system you are trying to mount?
[02:50] <nerdsquad3210> how do ubuntu staff feels about having MINT ripping your distro ?
[02:51] <LjL> !ot | nerdsquad3210
[02:51] <ubotu> nerdsquad3210: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:51] <ubuntu__> cabrioleur: idk, just trying to mount my hard drive
[02:51] <Flannel> nerdsquad3210: #ubuntu-offtopic, not here, thanks.
[02:51] <nerdsquad3210> :)
[02:51] <ubuntu__> cabrioleur: or floppy drive, but that's not listed in fstab and idk how to add it
[02:51] <smooker4> i need to save my files there :( but i cant i want to be able to create simply files and folders as i do on my desktop, withour have to add any password, otherwise its impossible for the torrent clients.
[02:51] <scguy318> RazzoRz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller may be of interest
[02:52] <jrib> smooker4: did touch work?
[02:52] <RazzoRz> ty
[02:52] <scguy318> smooker4: tweak your fstab
[02:52] <smooker4> nothing as output..
[02:52] <cabrioleur> try "mount -t msdos /dev/device /dir"
[02:52] <jrib> smooker4: is there now a "foobar" file in sda6?
[02:52] <sethk> smooker4, try the copy with sudo.  if that works, we know we have to change permissions.
[02:52] <smooker4> yes
[02:52] <smooker4> there is a file foobar
[02:52] <misc--> hi, if I have a 2x100gb and 1x50gb hard disk, what's the maximum space I'd get with a raid 5? I guess it would be 150gb?
[02:52] <jrib> smooker4: then you can write fine
[02:52] <Fezzler> Any iMovie users?
[02:53] <RazzoRz> Too bad it don't show my 9200 as a optio
[02:53] <RazzoRz> option**
[02:53] <cabrioleur> if you want to add to fstab, something like "/dev/device  /dir   msdos defaults,users  0  0" should be enough
[02:53] <ubuntu__> cabrioleur: didn't work :/
[02:53] <nerdsquad3210> smooker4: try sudo /.
[02:53] <cafuego> Fezzler: on #macintosh perhaps
[02:53] <scguy318> RazzoRz: look at it again :)
[02:53] <RazzoRz> k
[02:53] <smooker4> i cant but torrent client cant write
[02:54] <jrib> nerdsquad3210: what is that supposed to do?
[02:54] <cabrioleur> ubuntu__, what device are you using?
[02:54] <nerdsquad3210> make all hes troubles go away ?
[02:54] <jrib> smooker4: are you writing to sda6 or a subdirectory?
[02:54] <smooker4> Azureus said "error: failed to create parent directory 'media/sda6/downloads/game...
[02:54] <nerdsquad3210> or was it sudo ./ ?
[02:54] <scguy318> jrib: nerdsquad3210's command does absolutely nothing but cause a command not found error
[02:54] <ubuntu__> cabrioleur:  fd0 is my floppy, hda is my hard drive
[02:54] <jrib> nerdsquad3210: please try to be helpful
[02:54] <smooker4> writing at /mdeia/sda6/downloads/game..
[02:55] <jrib> smooker4: that is the full error?
[02:55] <jrib> smooker4: you need to copy and paste errors, not retype them
[02:55] <cabrioleur> ubuntu__, try "sudo modprobe msdos" before you mount.
[02:55] <cafuego> smooker4: Check that your user account has write permission AND that sda6 isn't in fact full.
[02:56] <smooker4> Error: Failed to create parent directory '/media/sda6/downloads/Unreal.Tournament.3-AVENGEDd' (allocateFiles:/avd-ut3.iso)
[02:56] <Tmang> Anyone available to privately converse on the philosophy of Linux? Personal assessment I suppose...
[02:56] <smooker4> thats the full error
[02:56] <RazzoRz> scguy318: ok i see the /proc/asound/card0/codec#0:Codec: SigmaTel STAC9200  ( now what? )
[02:56] <ghost> Does anyone know of a app or driver to give reiserfs support to xp and vista?
[02:56] <scguy318> RazzoRz: read the suggestions
[02:56] <jrib> smooker4: cafuego makes a good point, does 'df -h' say sda6 is full?
[02:56] <scguy318> ghost: theres a read-only one I think, dunno name or link
[02:56] <cabrioleur> smooker4, do you ave the writing permission (I feel bed to support piracy)?
[02:56] <smooker4> i reformated my pc before 3 days its not full
[02:57] <jrib> smooker4: he has write permissions to sda6
[02:57] <cafuego> ghost: It's highly unlikely such a thing exists.
[02:57] <dark_ninja> ghost: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/susenovell-60/accessing-reiserfs-from-windows-xp-380966/
[02:57] <Dankchild> hey i just created a new partition, if i install windows to it, will it interfere with GRUB?
[02:57] <nerdsquad3210> isnt sda an external drive ?
[02:57] <cafuego> smooker4: Can you check first and THEN say it's not full?
[02:57] <scguy318> Dankchild: yes, see !grub
[02:57] <ghost> thanks dark
[02:57] <RazzoRz> Scguy318: wow sorry i must be blind...
[02:57] <ghost> thanks dark_ninja
[02:57] <vanberge> anybody willing to offer up their opinion on the best/easiest/most compatible wlan adapter for a laptop?  I was thinking linksys WPC54G   :-)  thanks in advance
[02:57] <djtigerwolf> what do i need to know on making a linux operating systwm to make it?
[02:57] <RazzoRz> i dont see the Suggestions
[02:57] <dark_ninja> np
[02:57] <smooker4> i checked
[02:57] <cabrioleur> Dankchild, if grub is in mbr. It will not if grub is in the first partition :-)
[02:57] <smooker4> its not full
[02:57] <nerdsquad3210> isnt sda an external drive ?
[02:57] <jrib> !who | smooker4
[02:57] <ubotu> smooker4: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[02:58] <scguy318> RazzoRz: bottom of page?
[02:58] <cafuego> vanberge: An atheros based one would probably be best.
[02:58] <yaro> nerdsquad3210: No, sda isn't always external.
[02:58] <blah569> I've used Ubuntu countless of times, and I really like it, but most of the stuff I do is Windows-related. I think that it would be a hassle to have to find alternatives/use WINE to run most of my Windows-only applications. Can anyone give me some convincing reasons/sites to look at to actually convince me to switch to Ubuntu? I've read all the way through http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net.
[02:58] <smooker4> dev/sda6              49G  180M   46G   1% /media/sda6
[02:58] <scguy318> RazzoRz: theres like 6 workarounds and the thing at the bottom of the page might be relevant
[02:58] <RazzoRz> Yep i am blind
[02:58] <kelsin> nerdsquad3210: no, it's one that uses the scsi subsystem, DATA drives count
[02:58] <cafuego> vanberge: Note that linksys and other manufacturers have a habit of changing chipsets without changing model (or revision) numbers.
[02:58] <scguy318> blah569: what do you do?
[02:58] <jrib> smooker4: ok, ls -ld /media/sda6/downloads/'
[02:58] <nerdsquad3210> jrib: isnt sda supossed to be an external drive ?
[02:58] <cafuego> smooker4: Is sda6 an ntfs disk?
[02:58] <Dankchild> cabrioleur: yeah, its on the second partition..
[02:58] <cabrioleur> nerdsquad3210, not enymore :-)
[02:58] <kelsin> blah569: if you have windows only apps that you can't live without linux might not be for you
[02:58] <jrib> nerdsquad3210: not necessarily
[02:58] <Tmang> Anyone willing to give some time to talk to a newb at Linux?
[02:58] <smooker4> EXT3!
[02:58] <Dankchild> !grub
[02:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:59] <vanberge> cafuego, an atherios one?  i thought those were 'hard to use' or hard to get working?
[02:59] <scguy318> Tmang: if you've got a question, you may ask it here, if OT talk you can head on over to #ubuntu-offtopic or PM me
[02:59] <cafuego> smooker4: Can you create files in the directory in question when on the commandline?
[02:59] <blah569> I want to use Linux thoug.
[02:59] <blah569> though*
[02:59] <scguy318> blah569: what do you do?
[02:59] <cafuego> vanberge: Not really.
[02:59] <jrib> cafuego: yes, he has
[02:59] <scguy318> blah569: on Windows
[02:59] <smooker4> yes i created one
[02:59] <jrib> to sda6 anyway
[02:59] <blah569> I mainly do PHP, C++, etc, but I also do Flash.
[02:59] <cabrioleur> Dankchild, if grub is on the second partition then it will not. However, if you did not modify anything from ubuntu install it's in mbr and it will destroy it :-)
[02:59]  * cafuego shuts up
[02:59] <michael> whats the command for installing ndiswrapper
[02:59] <smooker4> but with browser or torrent i cant
[02:59] <nerdsquad3210> smooker you need to set uid 666
[02:59] <vanberge> cafuego, i'm looking for "plug it in, use it with WPA2, and dont have to mess with ndiswrapper"
[02:59] <blah569> Also, .NET.
[03:00] <blah569> And Photoshop CS3.
[03:00] <scguy318> michael: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[03:00] <cabrioleur> michael "apt-get install ndiswrapper"
[03:00] <nerdsquad3210> or was it 777 ?
[03:00] <michael> ty ty
[03:00] <cafuego> vanberge: Yes, atheros. The nice intel ones don't come as external cards.
[03:00] <scguy318> blah569: for programming there are some IDEs of interest on Linux, Flash probably have to run on Wine, if that works
[03:00] <cafuego> vanberge: Though I don't know if they do WPA2/.
[03:00] <blah569> Flash 8 works on WINE, as I've heard, but Flash CS3 doesn't, I think.
[03:00] <scguy318> blah569: .NET devel mebbe Mono/MonoDevelop, CS3 ehhh good luck with that, GIMP may or may not be for you
[03:00] <kelsin> blah569: well code editing is great on linux, there are equivalent (maybe not equal to, but close) versions of everything else except flash
[03:01] <blah569> I prefer Photoshop over Gimp.
[03:01] <vanberge> cafuego, do you use wlan ?
[03:01] <blah569> "The Gimp"
[03:01] <scguy318> smooker4: what's your fstab?
[03:01] <blah569> I mainly do programming.
[03:01] <smooker4> what means fstab ?
[03:01] <cafuego> vanberge: yup
[03:01] <vanberge> cafuego, do you use WPA2 ?  :-)
[03:01] <lwizard1> anyone here use a kworld atsc110 tv card in ubuntu?
[03:01] <scguy318> smooker4: /etc/fstab?
[03:01] <scguy318> smooker4: you are mounting your NTFS part with NTFS-3G and proper fstab entry right?
[03:01] <cafuego> vanberge: WPA1-PEAP afaik
[03:01] <blah569> I'd partion my hard drive and keep Windows, but I can't see a reason to actually install Ubuntu.
[03:02] <nerdsquad3210> fstab is the dir were the system looks for mounting points
[03:02] <kelsin> blah569: I suggest dual booting then, it sounds like you are very attached to the couple of windows-only uses
[03:02] <jrib> how about *one* person help smooker4, I give up
[03:02] <smooker4> my partition is ext3
[03:02] <vanberge> cafuego - that would be fine with me... do you have an atheros card?
[03:02] <kelsin> blah569: well until you try it and realize the power, esp when coding, you probably never will
[03:02] <sethk> blah569, if the performance off the cd is adequate for you, then there is no need.
[03:02] <scguy318> nerdsquad3210: fstab isn't a directory, it's a file
[03:02] <nerdsquad3210> can i help smooker4 ?
[03:02] <vanberge> cafuego, right now i can only get my card to connect WEP by using ndiswrapper
[03:02] <nerdsquad3210> pls pls pls
[03:02] <cafuego> vanberge: Atheros, Intel and broadcom. They all work just fine.
[03:02] <peacepipej1> triple booting. xp, buntu and studio. Is there a recommenced spot for /swap for best results? tween buntu and studio fr example or does it not matter
[03:03] <scguy318> nerdsquad3210: if you have relevant info, go for it
[03:03] <smooker4> help then y ure asking :(
[03:03] <kelsin> peacepipej1: where swap is doesn't matter at all, if you have one partition they can both use it fine
[03:03] <nerdsquad3210> how very relevant
[03:03] <jc_denton> helo!
[03:03] <scguy318> peacepipej1: don't sweat too much over swap, if you need to be using swap adding RAM is probably a good idea :)
[03:03] <wease|> anybody miss me>
[03:03] <wease|> hehe
[03:03] <nerdsquad3210> no
[03:03] <scguy318> jc_denton: hello
[03:03] <peacepipej1> kelsin: k,thx
[03:04] <blah569> I may just buy another computer and install Ubuntu on that, and use that computer as my "test my software for Ubuntu" computer.
[03:04] <norman> have anyone any luck with gusty network printing
[03:04] <nerdsquad3210> blah569: just install 2 ubuntus on the same computer
[03:05] <cabrioleur> norman, sure. avahi + samba
[03:05] <scguy318> nerdsquad3210: why two?
[03:05] <smookerPC1> so.. i guess ill have to move all torrents from my desktop to sda6, not just save them there.
[03:05] <cafuego> blah569: Ubuntu installs and runs just fine in vmware
[03:05] <cwollman> does any one know of a program to run in the cammand line that is a podcast download utility
[03:05] <sethk> norman, sure
[03:05] <Tmang> I know your a busy fellow scguy318 but I Pm'd you when your available
[03:05] <blah569> I have emulated Ubuntu in vBox, but it crashes on my Vista, but it ran fine on my XP, which this laptop doesn't have anymore :(.
[03:05] <scguy318> !register > Tmang (see PM from ubotu)
[03:05] <nerdsquad3210> why not qemu ?
[03:06] <blah569> I never understood qemu
[03:06] <CommonClone> gparted and the installer do not detect my IDE HD, can someone help please?
[03:06] <norman> i have 2 ubuntu machine one desktop one laptop ,did not think i need samba
[03:06] <scguy318> blah569, nerdsquad3210: QEMU is pretty darn slow without the acceleration module or w/e its called
[03:06] <nerdsquad3210> vmware isnt open source
[03:06] <cafuego> How well does qemu run under windows?
[03:06] <jc_denton> can someone help me? i like to know how to check parameters of my parallelport (i got a x1541 cable connected to a 1541 c64 floppy drive)
[03:06] <dark_ninja> norman, you don't, you can just configure cups to share
[03:06] <djtigerwolf> what do i need to know about making an os to make it?
[03:06] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, did you try to look for it in the menu?
[03:06] <dark_ninja> there a gui for that in gutsy, btw
[03:07] <scguy318> cafuego: not very well when I was testing a ReactOS image
[03:07] <cafuego> nerdsquad3210: The bios in your computer is also not open source. But you're still using it.
[03:07] <sethk> jc_denton, you can find info about the hardware in the /sys directory
[03:07] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: which menu?
[03:07] <nerdsquad3210> so is the hardware
[03:07] <scguy318> cafuego: I tried fiddling with acceleration service driver or w/e it's called, but I wasn't particularly versed in the knowledge
[03:07] <jc_denton> k i look there
[03:07] <scguy318> nerdsquad3210: exactly
[03:08] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, I think in top right corner there was a disk chooser, a simple pool-out menu.
[03:08] <nerdsquad3210> thats why hardware and software are verydifrent
[03:08] <norman> dark tried  using the gui no luck can you point me to a doc
[03:09] <cafuego> nerdsquad3210: I'm a firm believer in the right-tool-for-the-job philosophy. it makes so much easier.
[03:09] <cabrioleur> norman, samba will give you more control and compatibility, so I recommend.
[03:09] <blah569> Bah, I just wis I had some convinceing reasons to actually use Ubuntu.
[03:09] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: in the installer?
[03:09] <nerdsquad3210> cafuego: what made you comr from debian to ubuntu ?
[03:09] <dark_ninja> norman, if you're in the mood for editing your cups config, here: http://occy.net/printing
[03:10] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, I don't know much about gui's. I did it manually. It took ab. 15 min.
[03:10] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, sorry, yes
[03:10] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: how do I do it manually
[03:10] <dark_ninja> this might also help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=163882
[03:10] <cafuego> nerdsquad3210: Less PITA to get a decent desktop up and running.
[03:10] <T70K5> I have a question. A virus that is written for windows, will it effect linux?
[03:10] <scguy318> T70K5: no
[03:10] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, manually what. edit partition? open terminal and type parted.
[03:11] <T70K5> thx scguy318
[03:11] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, or sudo parted.
[03:11] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: ok
[03:11] <bazhang_> T70K5: no
[03:11] <nerdsquad3210> some virus are system independent
[03:11] <T70K5> what do you mean by that?
[03:11] <nerdsquad3210> thaey run both on windows and linux
[03:11] <cabrioleur> T70K5, if you run it in wine, in some circumstances, there is a chance for some...
[03:11] <PurpZeY> Howdy
[03:12] <nerdsquad3210> and java for that mater
[03:12] <scguy318> nerdsquad3210: Java is a poor platform for malware, slow, and what's there to exploit?
[03:12] <T70K5> oh ok
[03:12] <kiyoshi_wolf> can someone tell me if there is a way to put media controls on the taskbar? like rewind skip and stuff?
[03:12] <nerdsquad3210> scguy318: knolege is power hid it well ;D
[03:12] <kiyoshi_wolf> like wmp does when minimized
[03:12] <jc_denton> 0378-037a : parport0  guess i found it?
[03:13] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: I'm on the live cd, I dont think it will let me
[03:13] <blah569> Does anyone know of another site besides http://www.whylinuxisbetter.com that has convincing reasons to use Ubuntu?
[03:13] <dark_ninja> t70k5, there are root kits designed specifically for linux, but those are extremely rare, and there has never been a "real" propagating virus that has effectively exploited a GNU/Linux system
[03:13] <blah569> Meh, I guess I can do some Googling.
[03:13] <bazhang_> kiyoshi_wolf: yes it is possible
[03:13] <MACscr1077> Anyone know if its possible to dedicated a cpu to a virtual machine?
[03:13] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, pull-out the menu Administration -> partitioning
[03:13] <evan__> hello?
[03:13] <kelsin> blah569: just use it, it's a better way of using a computer, you control it, it's free, it's open, try it for a week and see, nothing ot lose
[03:13] <MACscr1077> Would be cool to get a quad core cpu and run an OS on each one
[03:13] <kiyoshi_wolf> how
[03:13] <cafuego> MACscr1077: Yes, you can.
[03:13] <ae> does anyone know how apache2 knows to display phpmyadmin ? its not in the /var/www folder or in the sites-enabled folder..?
[03:14] <scguy318> MACscr1077: you can't really do that if you mean natively, unless you mean some sort of hypervisor solution
[03:14] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, I think the password for sudo in live-cd is the same as login: ubuntu
[03:14] <bazhang_> kiyoshi_wolf: how adept are you at scripting?
[03:14] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: it says no devices detected and wont let me use the menus
[03:14] <p> What is the best way to convert five wmv files to an xvid video file?
[03:14] <cafuego> it's better to have the hypervisor do it and give 3 CPUs to a REALLY BUSY vm and let the other three idle on a single cpu.
[03:14] <smookerPC1> MACscr1077 with VMWare u can :) i runned in XP 2 Oss before, on AthlonX2
[03:14] <kiyoshi_wolf> uh not at all
[03:14] <dsnyders> HI all!  How do I delete files/folders before a particular date?  I want to clean up some log files.
[03:14] <bazhang_> p: why would you want to do that?
[03:14] <cabrioleur> blah569, there is not much convincing reasons to use ubuntu at all.
[03:14] <Rubin> ae: look in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[03:15] <MACscr1077> Im playing with parallels currently
[03:15] <tanlaan> anyone else having problems with firefox installing the flash plugin automatically?
[03:15] <Rubin> ae: though i thought it used to be a symlink in /var/www
[03:15] <cafuego> MACscr1077: Of course, 4 cores doesn't limit you to 4 OSes.
[03:15] <soulrider> !wireless
[03:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:15] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: it says no devices detected and wont let me use the menus
[03:15] <MACscr1077> Was thinking about running xp, ubuntu, osx, and vista =P
[03:15] <p> bazhang_, because two reasons: I want to cat this 5 files in just 1 file. And I want to be free from microsoft plugins
[03:15]  * cafuego runs 12-odd Linux installs on the one box.
[03:15] <scguy318> tanlaan: issue?
[03:15] <smookerPC1> woW
[03:15] <smookerPC1> 12 wow!
[03:15] <tanlaan> scguy318: I'm getting a constant md5sum mismatch while installing it
[03:15] <nerdsquad3210> p whats are the names of the files ?
[03:15] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, open terminal, and type cfdisk
[03:16] <bazhang_> p: best ask in ##windows
[03:16] <cabrioleur> sorry "sudo cfdisk"
[03:16] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: ok
[03:16] <p> nerdsquad3210, file1.wmv file2.wmv file3.wmv...
[03:16] <kiyoshi_wolf> well never mind banshee is close enough
[03:16] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: says cannot open disk drive
[03:16] <kelsin> ae: check /etc/apache2/conf.d as well
[03:16] <tanlaan> scguy318: which for some reason makes it think it's installed when really it says that it wasn't installed *and when you go to a page with flash it doesn't show up*
[03:16] <dark_ninja> dsnyders: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/18849-delete-files-older-than-set-date-number-hours.html
[03:16] <nerdsquad3210> i dont belive you
[03:16] <p> bazhang_, I'm over ubuntu... I'm trying to do my job using mencoder.. Why do I need to ask for a windows user?
[03:17] <scguy318> tanlaan: try doing sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree?
[03:17] <bazhang_> p: to see if its even possible
[03:17]  * chalcedony waves
[03:17] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, check the cables :-)
[03:17] <jrib> smooker4: what is the output of 'ls -ld /media/sda6/downloads/'
[03:17] <p> bazhang_, off course it is possible to convert.. but I'm looking for the best way
[03:17] <robdig> dsnyders: you can use the find command
[03:17] <cafuego> Lunch time!
[03:18] <bazhang_> p: then use the way you know :}
[03:18] <cabrioleur> go to /dev and type "ls sd*". do you see something?
[03:18] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: cables are all good, vista is on it, but it quit working
[03:18] <nerdsquad3210> bazhang_: LOL
[03:18] <kelsin> p: don't know, but I would probably start looking at mencoder from mplayer first off
[03:18] <p> bazhang_, not working good.. I'm loosing some frames and the audio is being desyncronized
[03:18] <ae> kelsin: thanks
[03:18] <p> kelsin, yes.. I'm trying it too!
[03:18] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, can you at least start loading vista, or it just gives up from the beginning?
[03:18] <tanlaan> scguy318: that should end  up being the same as if I do sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree which gives me that error also *along with the plugin thing for firefox*
[03:18] <CommonClone> it will go to the login
[03:19] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: it will go to the login
[03:19] <bazhang_> nerdsquad3210: :}
[03:19] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: but thats it
[03:19] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, type "ls /dev/sd*". can you see anything?
[03:19] <ae> thanks for the help finding the phpahmin reference - it was in conf.d :)
[03:19] <nethuman> 하이
[03:20] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: do I have to sudo that
[03:20] <bazhang_> nethuman: this is an English channel
[03:20] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, no
[03:20] <nerdsquad3210> how is it that the sudo command is suposed to make ubuntu safer ?
[03:20] <nerdsquad3210> roflol
[03:20] <Rubin> nerdsquad3210, one less password to be brute forced
[03:20] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: says "ls: do such file or directory
[03:21] <cabrioleur> bazhang_, this is a channel for everybody, regardless language etc.
[03:21] <CaptainMorgan> anyone have trouble installing netbeans 6.0 on Gutsy? the installer for me hangs at "/usr/share/themes/Glossy/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:35: error: lexical error or unexpected token, expected valid token" maybe a different theme is called for?
[03:21] <kelsin> nerdsquad3210: it helps enforce the proper way to do things, not just opening root shells all over the place
[03:21] <CommonClone> i mean ls: /dev/sd*; No such file or directory
[03:21] <bazhang_> cabrioleur: agreed--as long as they speak English
[03:21] <nerdsquad3210> acant i sudo using several shell at once ?
[03:22] <scguy318> !sudo | nerdsquad3210
[03:22] <ubotu> nerdsquad3210: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:22] <scguy318> nerdsquad3210: that's the discussion for your information
[03:22] <cabrioleur> bazhang_, free yourself. speak French!
[03:22] <zetheroo> where are all the avid GIMP users?
[03:22] <nerdsquad3210> cant i sudo using several shell at once ?
[03:22] <bazhang_> merci cabrioleur
[03:22] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: says "ls: /dev/sd*; do such file or directory
[03:22] <cabrioleur> bazhang_, de nada.
[03:23] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, did you try any other distribution?
[03:23] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: no
[03:23] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: but I can
[03:23] <cabrioleur> CommonClone, that would be a good idea. Ubuntu is pranky sometimes.
[03:23] <CommonClone> cabrioleur: ok
[03:23] <CaptainMorgan> zetheroo, right here
[03:24] <dark_ninja> help -l
[03:25] <Mikkel> hi, I have a newbie SSH question...
[03:25] <djangelo> hi everybody...
[03:25] <bazhang_> !ask | Mikkel
[03:25] <ubotu> Mikkel: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:25] <Mikkel> I'm trying to get a process to persist after I close the SSH session (running a remote server so that's my only access)
[03:25] <Mikkel> heh, sorry :)
[03:26] <kelsin> Mikkel: look into screen
[03:26] <Mikkel> okay, thanks
[03:26] <kelsin> Mikkel:  you run screen on the remote server, run your stuff in there, then Ctrl-a D to disconnect, then you can exit and when you log in later you can "screen -r" to bring it back
[03:26] <Palintheus> yes screen is very useful I use it with irssi
[03:26] <zetheroo> CaptainMorgan: your the avid GIMP user?
[03:26] <kelsin> Mikkel: there are lots of screen tutorials out there, it's a great tool :) I do also Palintheus
[03:27] <filth> greetings chaps!
[03:27] <dippy> is there any way to get AWN to have stacks, like leopard?
[03:27] <filth> Could someone please help me out?
[03:27] <Palintheus> !ask | filth
[03:27] <ubotu> filth: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:27] <scguy318> !ask | filth
[03:27] <Mikkel> great, thanks for the help... wasn't sure what to search for :)
[03:28] <filth> Oh thank you ubotu
[03:28] <pike__> i need a torrent client that allows you to set a minimun free disk space i just spent 30 min walking a relative through freeing up space in single user shell any suggestions?
[03:28] <dippy> tell her to stop downloading so much
[03:28] <T70K5> lol
[03:28] <filth> I have issues with games (warsow and sauerbraten) and my audio driveers, or rather, lack of audio drivers. However to add a twist, Amarok still plays audio no worries
[03:29] <CaptainMorgan> zetheroo, it's "you're" not your
[03:29] <Rubin> pike_, make a partition for your data, and save the torrents there.. when its full its full, without taking down your box
[03:29] <CaptainMorgan> anyone using netbeans on Gutsy ?
[03:29] <scguy318> filth: those games use OSS?
[03:29] <frank_> Capt I have
[03:29] <dippy> STACKS in AWN?
[03:29] <kelsin> pike__: rtorrent can do that, a long with lots of other stuff, it's a command line torrent client though, I love it
[03:29] <filth> I am not too sure, i think SDL?
[03:29] <joelmontes01> hello everyone
[03:29] <pike__> yeah.. i guess ill need to make a shared partition or somesuch itll need to be gui
[03:29] <CaptainMorgan> zetheroo, don't send pm's without asking first
[03:30] <kelsin> pike__: well... actually rtorrant can be setup so any .torrents you drop in a file start up
[03:30] <kelsin> pike__: so if it's setup write could be the easiest of them all
[03:30] <zetheroo> CaptainMorgan: so now that you have corrected me on 2 accounts of illegal conduct ... can I ask my question?
[03:30] <joelmontes01> I need to format a hard drive and I want to make sure the data is completely erased. What tool can I use (gui is the best option for me). Thanks
[03:30] <kelsin> pike__: right*
[03:30] <warriorforgod> Would a laptop with a 1.1 Ghz processor, 30 GB Hard drive, and 512 MB of ram be enough to run a light webserver?
[03:31] <CaptainMorgan> zetheroo, don't ask to ask - that's three. go lookup channel etiquette
[03:31] <kelsin> warriorforgod: def, depends on your definition of "light" of course, but I think so
[03:31] <bazhang_> CaptainMorgan: ease up
[03:31] <filth> Warsow uses Openal and Fg or something
[03:31] <Rubin> warriorforgod, of course. webservers have been in existance since the 80s
[03:31] <pike__> joelmontes01: there is a 'wipe' application but if youre using journaling which ext3 is then its a question of how sure you want to be. a simple rm *; cat /dev/urandom > file.txt; rm file.txt might work as well
[03:32] <zetheroo> CaptainMorgan: ok... three offences .... can PM you now?
[03:32] <dsnyders> joelmontes01, you may want to look into a secure erase tool if it is important that the data be irretrievable.
[03:32] <joelmontes01> pike_, the harddrive had windows before hand
[03:32] <filth> Plase someone help me :(
[03:32] <Rubin> zetheroo, just ask your question, here in this channel, so we all can see if we know the answer. come on..
[03:32] <warriorforgod> OK, next question.  How could I take an installed webserver and clone it to the laptop hard drive?
[03:32] <Palintheus> zetheroo: ask your question in channel, more people to help
[03:32] <filth> ive looked on forums to no success
[03:32] <scguy318> filth: what's the exact nature of the issues? any logs to paste?
[03:32] <Rubin> warriorforgod, erm. you want to clone the whole OS and everything?
[03:32] <frank_> So, Im pretty knew at this, and I'm having trouble with my wireless card, right now I'm wired, and I was wondering if anyone else has a D Link DWL 570 or could help me figure out my issue
[03:32] <filth> one second
[03:33] <warriorforgod> Rubin: yes
[03:33] <frank_> feel free to PM me
[03:33] <pike__> joelmontes01: at my work we have very strick standards for data so that wouldnt work but if its a personal comp it should be fine
[03:33] <Rubin> warriorforgod, theres a freebsd tool calld G4U that can do that for you..
[03:33] <cabrioleur> warriorforgod, dd :-)
[03:33] <CaptainMorgan> zetheroo, not right now, too busy -- just shout your question, it probably would've been answered in this time you've spent
[03:33] <nevhood> Hello everyone, when I plug in my headphones, the speakers do not mute.  My sound driver is snd-hda-intel (Realtek High Definition Audio), I have the latest alsa packages, what's wrong?
[03:33] <zetheroo> can you open CMYL PSD files in the GIMP?
[03:33] <kelsin> zetheroo: no
[03:33] <pike__> joelmontes01: just format it ext3 then cat /dev/urandom > /media/myhardrive/file.txt or something
[03:34] <Pici> !traffic
[03:34] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[03:34] <kelsin> zetheroo: right now gimp's internal engine is completely 8bit rgb
[03:34] <pike__> kelsin: ill consider rtorrent
[03:34] <kelsin> pike__: you can set it up so all torrents in a folder get run until space is low or a ratio limit is set (or many other things), will take a sec to setup right, but then requires no thought
[03:34] <jsoftw> ffs.
[03:35] <orochi_> Wow...crazy flooding going on in the other channel
[03:35] <Palintheus> wtf
[03:35] <smultron> if i order a T1 line, i'd need a T1 card, right? it's not just standard ethernet?
[03:35] <jonez> that was... neat
[03:35] <jonez> smultron: correct.
[03:35] <CaptainMorgan> amazing that the DCC hack is still affecting people
[03:36] <jsoftw> what dcc hack
[03:36] <zetheroo> ok... has this room stopped its glitching?
[03:36] <riotkittie>  CaptainMorgan: not that amazing. people are 1 - uninformed and/or 2: lazy
[03:36] <itrebal> did I excess flood in here?
[03:36] <orochi_> Anyway :> Hello...I'm creating a GPG key so that I can sign e-mail correspondences over webmail...what would be a reasonable key size to ensure that the e-mails can't be read by, e.g. Google's casual scanning for advertisments? :>
[03:36] <zetheroo> gosh that was nerve-wrecking
[03:36] <smultron> jonez: do they sell any converter boxes or anything like that?
[03:36] <riotkittie> only four?
[03:36] <riotkittie> oops.
[03:36] <Eje004> So, Im pretty knew at this, and I'm having trouble with my wireless card, right now I'm wired, and I was wondering if anyone else has a D Link DWL 570 or could help me figure out my issue
[03:37] <kelsin> orochi_: pretty much anything, the default gpg key size is plenty
[03:37] <nalioth> CaptainMorgan: it wasn't a dcc hack.  we can discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:37] <Eje004> feel free to PM me
[03:37] <scguy318> !wifi | Eje004
[03:37] <ubotu> Eje004: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:37] <scguy318> Eje004: [21:24:06] <scguy318> well, it's the only one I've used so far
[03:37] <scguy318> [21:24:09] <scguy318> so yeah I guess
[03:37] <scguy318> oops
[03:37] <Eje004> I looked at all that
[03:37] <Rubin> orochi_, gpg has a readme that explains the keysizes
[03:37] <Ashfire908> xchat users: to flush you send q, use the command /FLUSHQ
[03:37] <scguy318> Eje004: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto may be of interest
[03:37] <zetheroo> umm.... I was asking about the GIMP ... and the whole room just become a mess ... so I had to close Pidgin to stop all these error messages from appearing..... anyone answer my question?
[03:38] <kelsin> zetheroo: gimp's engine is only rgb 8bit
[03:38] <CaptainMorgan> nalioth, no thanks
[03:38] <Eje004> thanks
[03:38] <orochi_> kelsin, Rubin: Thanks, I'll take both of those into consideration :> Maybe I'll take a look at the whole README anyway
[03:38] <kelsin> zetheroo: it can not open cmyk or anything above 8bits per channel
[03:38] <itrebal> is it possible to change a user's password if tye don't remember what it is?
[03:38] <kelsin> itrebal: root can, (or a sudo user)
[03:39] <itrebal> root is disabled, and theres only one account
[03:39] <nevhood> Hello everyone, on my Toshiba laptop with Realtek High Definition Audio (snd-hda-intel), the speakers do not mute when headphones are plugged in.  I am running the latest alsa packages.  Any suggestions?
[03:39] <zetheroo> kelsin: ok... see I heard that using a Plugin you can open CMYK images which will be converted to RGB  -- which is how they can be edited --- and then you can save them again as CMYK......
[03:39] <kelsin> itrebal: then no, you can mount that drive from a live cd probably and do it
[03:40] <kelsin> zetheroo: probably, google for it, imagemagick (convert etc) can probably do that too, but for editing them, no
[03:40] <itrebal> are the passwords stored in /etc/shaddow unique to a specific computer? or can any computer generate them
[03:40] <jerbear> could there be a frickin update that doesn't kill suspend??
[03:40] <riotkittie> jerbear: no. :P
[03:40] <Rubin> itrebal, you mean can you copy them from one to another? yes
[03:40] <techqbert> any1 know where I can get an webmail e-mail address w/o typing a billion forms?  I'd prefer an obscure site.
[03:40] <itrebal> ok, thanks
[03:40] <zetheroo> kelsin: also why is there a CMYL panel in the GIMP?
[03:40] <jerbear> i'm assuming there are others who have broken suspend?
[03:40] <kelsin> itrebal: any computar with the same crypt() function (which is pretty much all) can
[03:40] <Rubin> jerbear, suspend/hibernate is a kinda risky endevor with linux still these days
[03:41] <smooker> hmm
[03:41] <smooker> my other PC got forwarded to another channel
[03:41] <jerbear> Rubin: seemed to work perfectly with feisty...
[03:41] <smooker> SmookerPC1/Smooker4
[03:41] <kelsin> zetheroo: what panel are you talking about?
[03:41] <Rubin> jerbear, its working ok for me .. its hardware dependant
[03:41] <itrebal> thanks
[03:41] <Rubin> jerbear, try searching for your laptop, and ubuntu or linux on google..
[03:41] <dsnyders> techqbert, have you tried your isp?  Most of them have web interfaces for email these days.
[03:42] <jerbear> Rubin: like i said, it worked perfectly in feisty and it worked for a while in gutsy... it only broke with the latest os updates... hardly a hardware issue
[03:42] <kelsin> zetheroo: do you mean the cmyk color selector?
[03:42] <techqbert> dsnyders: I need an obscure e-mail provider.  I have gmail comcast hotmail accts
[03:42] <Rubin> jerbear, could still be. depends on what drivers you have loaded etc
[03:42] <zetheroo> kelsin: I open the GIMP and in the Layers. Channels etc panel there is a CMYK color selector
[03:42] <zetheroo> yes
[03:42] <Rubin> jerbear, what happens?
[03:43] <jerbear> Rubin: don't think so, sorry.... nothing has changed except for the latest update
[03:43] <kelsin> zetheroo: yeah just a color selector, images are only internally respresented as 8-bit rgb
[03:43] <jerbear> Rubin: it seems to suspend fine, but when it tries to resume, it goes into this endless loop of nothing, then a black screen with mouse, then nothing
[03:43] <zetheroo> kelsin: ok... but you can import and export CMYK to and from RGB with the help of a Plugin ... right!?
[03:44] <Rubin> jerbear, sounds like X is crashing/restarting/crashing hmm
[03:44] <Rubin> jerbear, what kind of videocard?
[03:44] <kelsin> zetheroo: you said that not me, probably, that would make sense
[03:45] <jerbear> Rubin: intel mobile 915gm/gms/910gml express graphics
[03:45] <AgentHeX> anyone know how i can get Pidgin to load on startup?
[03:45] <alfermp_> i have that one jerbear
[03:45] <zetheroo> has anyone here ever had success importing a CMYK PSD file into the GIMP using a plugin?
[03:45] <scguy318> AgentHeX: System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> last tab
[03:45] <alfermp_> AgentHeX, got to
[03:45] <Rubin> jerbear, hmm that chipset is still a bit buggy driverwise from what i have read. what laptop is it?
[03:45] <scguy318> AgentHeX: then jam the save session button with Pidgin running
[03:45] <jerbear> alfermp_: yeh, i doubt it has anything to do with the vid card
[03:46] <jerbear> Rubin: no problems with vid card... works fine
[03:46] <[gquit]bombadil> i just installed a bunch of updates, and now when i start pidgin it gets stuck in some sort of infinite loop
[03:46] <AgentHeX> scguy318: perfect, thanks.
[03:46] <alfermp_> AgentHeX,  system > preference > sessions
[03:46] <Rubin> jerbear, you are having problems though...
[03:46] <[gquit]bombadil> does anyone know where pidgin keeps its config files
[03:46] <techqbert> what's the best vncviewer in the repos?
[03:46] <stib> I'm having trouble restoring a linux partition. I copied the partition using dd and installed grub but when I boot I get a kernel panic: "not synching VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)" thoughts anyone?
[03:46] <AgentHeX> alfermp_: got it already, thanks.
[03:46] <AgentHeX> scguy318: now, might you know how to get the nvidia restricted driver to work in Xen?
[03:47] <jerbear> Rubin: not with my video card... how you got to video card problems from suspend not working is beyond me
[03:47] <scguy318> AgentHeX: not really unfortunately
[03:47] <AgentHeX> :(
[03:47] <Rubin> jerbear, just guessing
[03:47] <Rubin> thats usually where suspend falls down
[03:47] <kelsin> AgentHeX: in a xen Dom0 or DomU?
[03:47] <jerbear> Rubin: i've never seen that
[03:47] <zetheroo> anyone know how to get Skype to follow the rest of Ubuntu font size and look?
[03:48] <jerbear> Rubin: not to say that it's not possible... just never seen it
[03:48] <lgc> !governors
[03:48] <Rubin> jerbear, try ctrl-alt-f1 a few times after resume, see if you can get a text console
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about governors - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <lgc> !governor
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about governor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <riotkittie> whatcha wanna know about governors?
[03:48] <jerbear> Rubin: that's a good idea.. i'll try that... at least it will tell me if it's X or not
[03:48] <Rubin> jerbear, also try looking in /var/log/Xorg.*
[03:49] <scguy318> lgc: the governor in California wouldn't mind terminating processes :P
[03:49] <HashBox> hey quick question guys, if I ran a 32 bit OS, could I still run 64 bit applications? or does the OS need to be 32 bit?
[03:49] <stib> zetheroo: try looking for your DPI settings in Xorg
[03:49] <riotkittie>  HashBox the app needs to be 32 bit, afaik
[03:49] <kelsin> HashBox: if you mean apps compiled for 64bit no
[03:49] <jerbear> Rubin: nothing out of the ordinary there
[03:49] <HashBox> damn
[03:50] <Rubin> jerbear, is it a thinkpad?
[03:50] <jerbear> Rubin: yes, t43
[03:50] <[gquit]bombadil> what is the command to upgrade your kernel in 7.10?
[03:50] <Rubin> jerbear, oh, try adding the .. what was it. 1 sec
[03:51] <zenwryly> How can I find out what is running on a given port?  localhost:8082 returns a web page and I'm wondering what it is.
[03:51] <Rubin> jerbear, try adding acpi_sleep=s3_bios
[03:51] <kelsin> zenwryly: "sudo lsof | grep 8082" will help, you can also nmap yourself
[03:51] <jerbear> Rubin: to what? the kernel options?
[03:51] <Rubin> to your boot config (/boot/grub/menu.1st, after ro quiet splash)
[03:52] <jerbear> Rubin: do you have any docs on that?
[03:52] <jerbear> Rubin: or links
[03:52] <Rubin> on editing menu.1st or on the acpi thing?
[03:52] <jerbear> Rubin: just curious to what it is before i add it
[03:52] <zenwryly> kelsin: thanks, I'll try that
[03:52] <Rubin> jerbear, i had to do that on my T61 before suspend worked
[03:52] <Rubin> i got it off the thinkwiki.org page
[03:53] <jerbear> Rubin: i'll see if i can find some info on it
[03:53] <jerbear> Rubin: may jump off irc to test
[03:53] <Rubin> acpi is the bios interface that suspend uses
[03:53] <Rubin> and that puts it into some other mode
[03:54] <jerbear> Rubin: going to try it out... brb
[03:54] <macabro22> how do I add a directory to my PATH??
[03:54] <jrib> macabro22: why?
[03:54] <kelsin> macabro22: the system path is in /etc/environment , or you can add a line to your .bashrc
[03:54] <macabro22> jrib: I want  to add skype to my path
[03:55] <jrib> macabro22: what is the full path to the skype binary?
[03:55] <al-_-Gir> someone here use Digg ?
[03:55] <greenmanspirit> hello, has anyone else had trouble with flash working on 64 bit ubuntu?
[03:55] <macabro22> jrib: ~/programas/skype/skype_static-<IP_ADDRESS>-oss$
[03:55] <smuggle> hello all
[03:56] <kelsin> greenmanspirit: a lot of people, flash is a 32bit program, if you google you will find a lot
[03:56] <jrib> macabro22: easiest way is to just put a symlink in /usr/local/bin/
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !flash64
[03:56] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[03:56] <greenmanspirit> kelsin: I just find it funny that the plugin is availible in the repos but it doesnt work
[03:56] <macabro22> jrib: how exactly?
[03:56] <kelsin> greenmanspirit: I was unaware the plugin was avaiable, on my 64bit servers it isn't
[03:56] <jrib> macabro22: sudo ln -s TARGET NAME
[03:57] <smuggle> greenmanspirit: i don't see big difference between 32bits and 64bits to end user... except the headache...rsrrsrs
[03:57] <al-_-Gir> someone know about open source alternative to skype ?
[03:57] <smuggle> greenmanspirit: lol
[03:57] <jrib> macabro22: target will be the path to skype and name will be /usr/local/bin/skype
[03:57] <scguy318> al-_-Gir: Ekiga, though it can't utilize the Skype network
[03:57] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: if using Gutsy, just install the flashplugin-nonfree package
[03:57] <jerbear> Rubin: worked like a charm, man... thanks for the tip
[03:57] <macabro22> jrib: so "sudo ln -s ~/programas/skype/skype_static-<IP_ADDRESS>-oss/skype?
[03:57] <macabro22> jrib: just one thing
[03:57] <jrib> macabro22: no
[03:57] <jerbear> Rubin: it actually seemed to resume almost 3 times as fast
[03:58] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: thats what I did and sites like youtube tell me that I do not have flash installed
[03:58] <kelsin> greenmanspirit: I take that back :) my servers are still running fiesty, unfortunately I don't know anything about 64 flash plugin since my servers don't need it
[03:58] <macabro22> jrib: I can't run skype by typing skype. I have to go to its directory and do ./skype
[03:58] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: strange, you're not using NoScript by any chance are you? :P
[03:59] <jrib> macabro22: yes, creating the symlink resolves that, but you did not write the correct command
[03:59] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: I don't know what that is, so im guessing no
[03:59] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: strange, try reinstalling flashplugin-nonfre by doing sudo aptitude reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[03:59] <chalcedony> i need to be able to use this for something i need to do, can anyone help me? spark_2_5_8.tar.gz  i untarred .. but now what?
[04:00] <Chadwick|359> Okay, strange question to be asking in an Ubuntu room, but does anybody know of a good backup program for Windows? I'm looking to back up to a rotating set of flash drives
[04:00] <macabro22> jrib: "sudo ln -s ~/programas/skype/skype_static-<IP_ADDRESS>-oss$ skype"?
[04:00] <JDSBlueDevl> hi, my computer is having problems.  I just rebooted, fsck is doing a check every 30 mounts, and it stopped at 70% and said "Duplicate or bad block in use"
[04:00] <bazhang> Chadwick|359: why not ask in ##windows?
[04:00] <JDSBlueDevl> what does that mean?
[04:00] <kelsin> Chadwick|359: I would read the README or INSTALL files in the tarball
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Chadwick|359: you can clone partitions or drives with the dd command
[04:00] <kelsin> Chadwick|359: rsync I think has a windows binary
[04:01] <kelsin> Chadwick|359: that readme line was not for you sorry about that
[04:01] <jrib> macabro22: no, I'm not sure where you are getting the $ unless that is actually the name of the file.  And for name, you want to give /usr/local/bin/skype unless you are in /usr/local/bin/
[04:01] <kelsin> chalcedony: I would look at the README or INSTALL file in the tarball
[04:01] <JDSBlueDevl> can anyone give an explanation?
[04:01] <bazhang> Chadwick|359: also there is a program called windows backup (can't believe I know that)
[04:01] <r00tintheb0x> jrib or unless you have it in your $PATH.
[04:01] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[04:01] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: for some reason it says that there is an md5sum mismatch and that it is not installing the plugin
[04:01] <Chadwick|359> kelsin, heh, okay
[04:01] <jrib> r00tintheb0x: nope
[04:01] <godemonite> hellllooooo
[04:02] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: can you pastebin? someone just said something about md5 a bit ago
[04:02] <chalcedony> kelsin: ty :) i looked at the read me.
[04:02] <ayanph> does anyone know why i'm getting a missing file when i try to upgrade from ubuntu 7.04 to 7.1 message says missing "Failed to fetch http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/ubufox/ubufox_0.4~beta1-0ubuntu4_all.deb 404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]"
[04:02] <JDSBlueDevl> can anyone help with the "Duplicate or bad block in use" error I'm getting with fsck?
[04:02] <tim167> hello,  I want to make a searchable database of the content of all my harddisks, what's an easy way to do that ?
[04:02] <kelsin> ayanph: as a side note, it's 7.10, not 7.1, but did you try again? Maybe you just got a bad mirror
[04:02] <jrib> ayanph: run 'sudo apt-get update'?  try a different mirror?
[04:02] <bazhang> ayanph: could be a network connection most likely
[04:03] <kelsin> tim167: locate
[04:03] <sethk> tim167, you mean the file names, or the file contents?
[04:03] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46906/
[04:03] <wasabi> Um. What package has /usr/bin/aclocal?
[04:03] <tim167> kelsin, yes, but doesnt that only search the currently connected harddisks ?
[04:03] <wasabi> No alternative in automake. Which is what I expected to see.
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> JDSBlueDevl: the equivalent in windows is a cross linked file.. what is the format on that drive
[04:03] <macabro22> jrib: thanks I fixed it!
[04:03] <JDSBlueDevl> ext3
[04:03] <godemonite> o.o
[04:03] <tim167> sethk i want to be able to search for a file, without the (usb-) disks all connected
[04:04] <jrib> wasabi: automake *is* the package you want
[04:04] <ayanph> thanks for the headsup. i'm gonna try it now
[04:04] <kelsin> tim167: I'm pretty sure you can connect them all, run a update to the db saving it to a different file, then run locate on that file
[04:04] <tim167> sethk so that i know what disk it is on, and also a search like that will be 100x faster that searching the actual disks
[04:04] <wasabi> jrib: Guessed that much. What about the aclocal binary? THere are the various aclocal-N.M versions.
[04:04] <JDSBlueDevl> Jack_Sparrow: ext3
[04:04] <sethk> tim167, you can use updatedb.  By default it will index all files, but you can use an argument to limit the files and write to a different database
[04:04] <chalcedony> kelsin: i don't see an 'install file' in `spark_2_5_8.tar.gz' 's buffer. how do i find it?
[04:04] <kelsin> tim167: otherwise just connect all of the discs and do a big "find ." then save that in a file and grep
[04:05] <Rubin> hrm. anyone know where the compiz blacklist file is? i heard that my card should be supported now, but i still cant enable it
[04:05] <sethk> arguments, actually, one to change the data file and one to limit the indexed files
[04:05] <kelsin> chalcedony: I was saying you should see if there are any help files in the tarball, look for README and INSTALL and follow them
[04:05] <sethk> tim167, there are other ways, you can make a list of all files, remove the ones in the directories you don't want, then sort the list.  With an editor you'll find the file you want in a few seconds
[04:05] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: gimme a sec
[04:06] <sethk> tim167, locate is more automatic, obviously.  (updatedb makes the database, and locate uses the database)
[04:06] <ayanph> it's working so far
[04:06] <ayanph> thanks guys
[04:06] <jrib> wasabi: what about them?  You get a version for the version of automake you installed and you use update-alternatives to configure it
[04:06] <sethk> tim167, when you use an argument to change the data file with updatedb, you have to use the same argument with locate to tell it to use the file.
[04:06] <wasabi> jrib: update-alternatives tells me there is no aclocal alternative
[04:06] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: is it possible that adobe updated the tar and that the package hasn't been updated to match it?
[04:06] <jrib> wasabi: automake
[04:06] <JDSBlueDevl> Jack_Sparrow: what do I do with the "Duplicate or bad block in use" thing, then, with an ext3 drive?
[04:06] <tim167> kelsin, sethk, ok I can try that, I'll have to look into man locate a bit more, especially to find out how to save the db to another file...
[04:06] <tsukasa> question, how do i fdisk a external usb drive
[04:07] <wasabi> jrib: Yeah, and what about aclocal? heh
[04:07] <interation> help:how do i install yahoo messenger
[04:07] <kelsin> tim167: after you complete you can just stick some alias's in .bashrc like "usb-search" "usb-update" or something
[04:07] <Rubin> interation, use pidgen instead
[04:07] <jrib> wasabi: it updates aclocal as well (try)
[04:07] <sethk> tim167, that part is easy, just -X /path (it's not X, I'll look up the specific argument, but you know what I mean)
[04:07] <wasabi> I'm asking because it didn't.
[04:07] <jrib> wasabi: wfm
[04:07] <tim167> sethk can i incrementally add filelists from several harddisks to one locate db file (one after the other, i have not enough usb interfaces to connect all harddisks at once) ?
[04:07] <sethk> tim167, use the long form:  locate --database=/path/to/file
[04:08] <jrib> wasabi: what does aclocal point to now?
[04:08] <regeya> wheee
[04:08] <kitofhawaii> tsukasa: sudo fdisk /dev/<externaldriveid>
[04:08] <sethk> tim167, I believe so, let me check.
[04:08] <wasabi> jrib: Nothing. THe link does not exist.
[04:08] <jrib> wasabi: purge automake and reinstall it
[04:08] <interation> rubin:pidgen?
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> JDSBlueDevl: sorry I was reading about your problem.  I found several references to the problem. but no soultions.  If you had a backup you could format the partition and reinstall it.. NOt a good choice I am sure
[04:09] <Rubin> interation, its an IM client that supports all the major services
[04:09] <Rubin> interation, used to be called gaim
[04:09] <interation> thank
[04:09] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: that's entirely possible
[04:09] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: lemme test reinstallation
[04:09] <interation> rubin: thank you
[04:09] <sethk> tim167, I don't see a way to do that, however, what you can do is create a tree full of symbolic links with the same path name as the real files (when those files are mounted)
[04:10] <jrib> wasabi: if you read the automake postinst files, you see what is supposed to happen
[04:10] <wasabi> jrib: Heh. Did that, still nothing. Will read them.
[04:11] <jrib> wasabi: does 'update-alternatives --display automake' list aclocal as a slave?
[04:11] <chalcedony> Rubin: i still have gaim .. ubuntu feisty
[04:11] <tim167> sethk, hmm that sounds complicated to me....  maybe i can just do updatedb specifieing a different filename each time, and then concatenate those afterwards ?
[04:11] <wasabi> jrib: /etc/alternatives/aclocal exists... there's just no /usr/bin/aclocal
[04:11] <Peddy> there was a massive update today.. has anyone else got this (wondering if its just me)?
[04:11] <wasabi> annoying
[04:11] <sethk> tim167, yes, you can certainly do that
[04:11] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: I can confirm, I have a tar that works tho
[04:11] <sethk> tim167, then you can write a wrapper script that queries each one
[04:11] <treitter> I'm trying to burn ~4.4 GiB of data to a DVD, but I only have 1.9 GiB free in /tmp. I've set my gconf key /apps/nautilus-cd-burner/temp_iso_dir to a location with plenty of room, but nautilus-cd-burner doesn't seem to respect it. Anyone know why it wouldn't?
[04:11] <treitter> this guy seems to have the same problem as me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=484287
[04:11] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: I can confirm, I have a tar that works tho
[04:12] <sethk> treitter, I'm not sure why, but rename /tmp, then make /tmp a symlink to the path with the space
[04:12] <kelsin> tim167: looks like you can make a db of each and then in your .bashrc put them in a env var LOCATE_PATH
[04:12] <jrib> wasabi: meh, may be easier to just create the symlink
[04:12] <treitter> sethk: is that safe on a live system?
[04:12] <wasabi> yeah that's what i'm thinking.
[04:12] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: so is my best bet to sit and wait till the person in charge of the package fixes it?
[04:12] <kelsin> tim167: it's in the locate man page, do then you can have locate search your system db and the db's for each usb drive
[04:12] <wasabi> I'm running update-alternatives manually and it's not working
[04:12] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: or I can give you the tar I have
[04:12] <linuxftw> umm so im in my /home$ how do i execute  chmod +x ./ipodpatcher on one fille named ipodpatcher?
[04:12] <jaru> hello
[04:12] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: the package checks if you have a local copy and installs from there
[04:12] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: lemme pastebin
[04:12] <whta> trying to play stepmania with the fglrx driver gives me a really flickery game window. how can i fix that?
[04:12] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: ok
[04:12] <kelsin> linuxftw: you type "chmod +x ~/ipodpatcher" in a terminal
[04:13] <sethk> treitter, potentially something might have a file open in /tmp.  Use lsof to check
[04:13] <tim167> kelsin cool, thanks, I'll try it out
[04:13] <treitter> sethk: yeah, a ton of ORBit files are open
[04:13] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: http://rapidshare.com/files/74380214/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz.html
[04:14] <jaru> I just upgraded from Edgy to Feisty now I can't start normally I get Xserver is there a way to start in safe graphic mode? that usally works when I running Live CD but don't know how to do from hard drive boot
[04:14] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: after you save this
[04:14] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: tell me where you saved it and I'll tell you what command to do
[04:14] <mosno> uh, why would you use rapidshare for flashplayer?
[04:14] <scguy318> mosno: because Adobe updated their tarball, causing flashplugin-nonfree to whine about md5sum error
[04:14] <scguy318> mosno: this is the tarball that flashplugin-nonfree likes
[04:14] <sethk> tim167, kelsin looks like you can do the same thing by setting --database=<path> to a directory, implying use all files in the directory.
[04:15] <wasabi> this is silly.
[04:15] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: looks like I'll file a bug if one hasn't already been reported
[04:15] <jaru> start normally I get Xserver is there a way to start in safe graphic mode? that usally works when I running Live CD but don't know how to do from hard drive boot
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> treitter: you are trying to burn a dvd from the livecd, which will write a large temp file.  How much ram.. Sorry, I am a little slow and confused tonight
[04:15] <tim167> sethk heh nice :)
[04:15] <wasabi> it stopped installing 'automake't oo
[04:15] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: ok, I was going to do that if no one in here was able to help me
[04:15] <mosno> scguy318: so how do you prevent the preinst of flashplugin-nonfree from fetching the crap version anyway?
[04:15] <sethk> tim167, I wouldn't have found that if kelsin hadn't mentioned a path variable.
[04:15] <treitter> Jack_Sparrow: not from a LiveCD, this is a full install. I've got 2 GiB of RAM, but that's not enough to cache the entire ISO before burning
[04:15] <jansenq> 123
[04:15] <jansenq> 1234
[04:16] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: its on my desktop
[04:16] <scguy318> mosno: you stick the copy it wants into /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree
[04:16] <jansenq> sorry about that.  screen went funny
[04:16] <scguy318> mosno: then it sees local copy, and installs from it
[04:16] <treitter> this really wouldn't be a problem, but it looks like some bug is preventing nautilus-cd-burner from reading the appropriate gconf key
[04:16] <mosno> scguy318: cool
[04:16] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: ok, do
[04:16] <jaru> start normally I get Xserver is there a way to start in safe graphic mode? that usally works when I running Live CD but don't know how to do from hard drive boot
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> treitter: Sorry I saw your comment to sethk and thought you were talking about your system running live..
[04:17] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: sudo cp ~/Desktop/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree
[04:17] <jaru> I just upgraded from Edgy to Feisty now I can't start normally I get Xserver is there a way to start in safe graphic mode? that usally works when I running Live CD but don't know how to do from hard drive boot
[04:17] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: then sudo aptitude reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[04:17] <sethk> treitter, you might try adding the variable definition to .bashrc, to make sure it's seen by a subshell
[04:17] <treitter> I guess I could try k3b. Man, I wish it didn't come to this. That app makes me feel like I'm drowning in a see of superfluous widgets
[04:17] <scguy318> jaru: go to Recovery Console, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and select vesa, then boot normally, if no work
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> jaru: hitting escape as you power up should get you to a menu for recovery mode
[04:17] <sethk> treitter, that shouldn't be necessary if the variable is exported, but it's a bug, so who knows?
[04:18] <scguy318> jaru: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, select vesa, follow prompts, boot normally
[04:18] <Dankchild> hey guys i just installed windows, and i went to my computer and it didnt show this partiton, what should i do?
[04:18] <linuxftw> chmod +x ./ipodpatcher i akm trying to execute that command on a file in my home drive can anyone help me?
[04:18] <treitter> sethk: which variable? It's a gconf key. And I've logged out and back in since setting it
[04:18] <linuxftw> dankchild.. um windows dosn't show up?
[04:18] <linuxftw> ot linux?
[04:18] <linuxftw> or*
[04:18] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: thanks a lot
[04:18] <scguy318> Dankchild: you need to install an ext2 partition
[04:18] <scguy318> Dankchild: I mean, driver
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Dankchild: Does gparted show it..
[04:19] <sethk> treitter, I thought you were talking about an environment variable.  You would almost have to be, as the program runs (I believe) even if you aren't running gnome
[04:19] <jaru> scguy318: How do I access Recovery Consle
[04:19] <greenmanspirit> scguy318: its works perfectly now
[04:19] <scguy318> greenmanspirit: cool
[04:19] <Dankchild> yes gparted shows it.
[04:19] <Dankchild> k, i need a ext2 driver. makes sence
[04:19] <Dankchild> sense*
[04:19] <scguy318> Dankchild: you need to install ext2 driver from fs-driver.org
[04:19] <jaru> scguy318: is that where i press esc at beginng?
[04:19] <scguy318> jaru: yep
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Dankchild: So it just isnt mounted in your ubuntu install since you just added it to the system.. Is that the issue so far
[04:19] <RedHeron_> So.... how long will my connection remain open?
[04:19] <Dankchild> accually i need to install all of my drivers lol.
[04:20] <Dankchild> Jack_sparrow: no, my ubuntu partiton didnt show up in windows.
[04:20]  * RedHeron_ is here 2x and after 5 days the connection still hasn't died.
[04:20] <jaru> scguy318: I edit the boot kernal to add those or do i just boou in recovery mode
[04:20] <scguy318> jaru: boot in recovery mode then run the command I mentioned
[04:20] <RedHeron_> the *first* connection, rather.
[04:20] <jaru> scguy318: thank you i will try now
[04:20] <treitter> sethk: ah, no. I'm trying to use nautilus-cd-burner to burn a DVD, and it's not reading a gconf key, so it's trying to create a DVD ISO in /tmp, but my /tmp doesn't have enough room for it, so it's failing. nautilus-cd-burner would only be running if nautilus is running and I'm trying to burn a disc
[04:20] <scguy318> RedHeron_: IRC connection? nevar unless IRC server goes down for some reason
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Dankchild: ext2f2_1_10c is the one I use
[04:21] <bazhang> RedHeron_: the connection to irc? or the internets?
[04:21] <michael> anyone know the command to install/run ndiswrapper?
[04:21] <RedHeron_> IRC
[04:21] <scguy318> michael: did you see my link?
[04:21] <sethk> treitter, do a chroot and make the desired directory named "/tmp" that way
[04:21] <scguy318> michael: I thought I linked you to Ubuntu Wiki guide
[04:21] <RedHeron_> I've disconnected and been away for 4 days.
[04:21] <Dankchild> Jack_sparrow: awesome ill look for that one.
[04:21] <RedHeron_> Rebooted my system.
[04:21] <RedHeron_> Still here.
[04:21] <michael> scguy318_: i think i tried it and it didnt show meh, or didnt work, try again
[04:22] <scguy318> michael: what didn't work?
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Dankchild: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins?action=show&redirect=FirefoxAMD64FlashJava  might be it
[04:22] <michael> scguy318: the commands on teh page
[04:22] <bazhang> RedHeron_: well if you are all setup via your irc client then you will always have a place
[04:22] <kelsin> treitter: you could try gnome-baker or brasero
[04:23] <Dankchild> oh and one more question i know it isnt ubuntu related, none of my drivers are installed on windows, do i have to find and install each one by themselves or is there and automatic program for that?
[04:23] <treitter> kelsin: brasero is based on nautilus-cd-burner, I believe. But I'll check out gnome-baker. Thanks!
[04:23] <RedHeron_> Or never, depending on how you look at it, bazhang.
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Dankchild: No idea why I have that link for ext2 ?
[04:23] <bazhang> RedHeron_: indeed
[04:23]  * RedHeron_ didn't quit!
[04:23] <scguy318> michael: well what happened when you tried to do it?
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Dankchild: http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html
[04:23] <Dankchild> Jack_sparrow: hah yeah i delt with that problem a long time ago =p
[04:24] <limecat> is there an easy way to create and install ubuntu onto LVM groups, WITHOUT an alternate CD? like, from within the live cd?
[04:24] <adamonline45> Anyone know of a good tutorial for manually connecting a bluetooth mouse?
[04:24] <limecat> my windows $MBR got screwed, and i really dont feel like repairing it right now :\
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Dankchild: Yea, for windows you will need to hunt down each driver.. Lots of fun.  The ext2 driver thought works great
[04:25] <syedhali> hello
[04:25] <HateX> does anyone use an irc client other than xchat bitchx that they enjoy
[04:25] <ferret> Apart from being pretty slow ;p
[04:25] <kelsin> HateX: irssi
[04:25] <ferret> HateX: irssi
[04:25] <limecat> HateX: irssi
[04:25] <bazhang> konversation
[04:25] <adamonline45> pidgin
[04:25] <scguy318> HateX: mIRC :P
[04:26] <Dankchild> Jack_sparrow: cool man thanks saved me some time. haha, one more thing, is there a device manager on ubuntu? i dont rememver every model of each part.
[04:26] <HateX> lil well it's settled than
[04:26] <prothoss> noob question time! What are the advantages of Ubuntu over Debian?
[04:26] <syedhali> I need help with installation of the printer Laxmark Z715
[04:26] <syedhali> on Ubuntu
[04:26] <Falican> i just installed the python-mysqldb package but python isn't finding it is there something extra i need to do (i used the synaptic package manager btw)
[04:26] <wasabi> HateX: less anarchy
[04:26] <wasabi> Oops
[04:26] <wasabi> wrong person
[04:26] <wasabi> prothoss: less anarchy
[04:26] <limecat> prothoss: as i understand it, ubuntus just designed to be more friendly/useable for normal person
[04:26] <kelsin> prothoss: more current software, lots of work on desktop integration and support of common hardware
[04:26] <wasabi> It would be better stated that Ubuntu is "designed"
[04:26] <bazhang> prothoss: this channel :}
[04:26] <kelsin> prothoss: (when I say more current I mean compared to debian's stable and testing branch)
[04:26] <wasabi> Debian is "design by committee". The vision is mostly everybody packages their own thing for their own reasons.
[04:27] <HateX> is irssi easily installable, with apt-get?
[04:27] <utarpradesh> hi, ubuntu doesn't recognise my NTFS partition anymore... i don't know what to do, or even what happened... :'(
[04:27] <prothoss> ah, righto
[04:27] <wasabi> Ubuntu has a more refined goal.
[04:27] <limecat> HateX: yes
[04:27] <kelsin> HateX: yes
[04:27] <limecat> HateX: its a commandline IRC, btw...if you want graphical, pidgin works well
[04:27] <HateX> excellent
[04:27] <utarpradesh> the NTFS partition isn't even on my desktop for me to click anymore
[04:27] <utarpradesh> i don't know how to fix this
[04:27] <scguy318> utarpradesh: did you uncleanly dismount your NTFS partition?
[04:27] <scguy318> utarpradesh: if so a nice boot back to Windows then back to Linux will do it
[04:28] <Dankchild> Jack_sparrow: or i guess what i mean is a hardware manager
[04:28] <HateX> limecat, ok i was looking for a Super Duper GUI client that has everything
[04:28] <limecat> pidgin
[04:28] <bazhang> konversation
[04:28] <limecat> sorta...its irc is decent, but probably not the best, but it has a ton of plugins
[04:29] <kelsin> HateX: what does xchat not have that you want?
[04:29] <mrfantastic> hey i need some advice...i have an old vaio laptop maybe from 2002 with a 1.0ghz P3 ATI graphics...I have XP running on it, pretty slowly i might add.  does anyone here have any experience with ubuntu with a pc that old?
[04:29] <ayanph> is there an IM software in ubuntu that supports yahoo or msn webcam chat?
[04:29] <limecat> ayanph: kopete might, i dont remember
[04:29] <scguy318> mrfantastic: how old?
[04:29] <ayanph> mrfantastic: try xubuntu
[04:29] <scguy318> ayanph: for MSN aMSN, yahoo gyachi
[04:29] <sethk> ayanph, gaim
[04:29] <mrfantastic> 5 or 6 years
[04:29] <scguy318> mrfantastic: lemme rephrase that, how much mem?
[04:29] <Dankchild> is there a hardware manager on ubuntu? i dont rememver every model of each part.
[04:29] <HateX> kelsin, well somethings like when rightclicking on a person, if you wanted to half-op them the option just isn't there
[04:29] <limecat> sethk: gaim no longer exists
[04:29] <HateX> only voice and op
[04:30] <limecat> its pidgin now
[04:30] <mrfantastic> max 512
[04:30] <ayanph> will try gyachi
[04:30] <Bil1> how come i can not enable ctrl alt button 1 for compiz and none of its features are working
[04:30] <scguy318> Dankchild: there is SYstem -> Prefs -> Hardware Info
[04:30] <sethk> limecat, it exists on my box.  :)  You can still install it.
[04:30] <Dankchild> sweet thanks man
[04:30] <scguy318> mrfantastic: Xubuntu is a good choice, Ubuntu might work well too
[04:30] <kelsin> Dankchild: lspci on the command line will give you info as well
[04:31] <limecat> sethk: heh, any particular reason NOT to upgrade to pidgin?
[04:31] <catach> limecat: lame name?
[04:31] <mrfantastic> so does xubuntu use less resources than ubuntu?
[04:31] <kelsin> mrfantastic: by default yes
[04:31] <ayanph> does that also support webcam --- pidgin that is
[04:31] <mrfantastic> even it uses the same apps?
[04:31] <scguy318> ayanph: no
[04:31] <limecat> catach: i sorta like it :(
[04:31] <ayanph> i see
[04:31] <kelsin> mrfantastic: it's the xfce desktop environment, instead of gnome, so differen base desktop apps
[04:31] <Bil1> can i get some help starting compiz, nothin on it works but i have it
[04:31] <ayanph> too bad
[04:31] <utarpradesh> scguy318: i tried this... windows doesn't even load... or when it does, it's ridiculously slow, i cant even move the mouse
[04:32] <catach> limecat: Hah, good then.
[04:32] <adamonline45> Do I need to install something to use my bluetooth mouse?  When i click on it in my bluetooth manager, It asks me if I'd like to 'save' or 'open' sdp://[blue:tooth:add:ress]/'.  How do I just connect to it?
[04:32] <limecat> telling people to open aim on gaim is sorta confusing, and they keep thinking im talking about aim
[04:32] <kmag> so... gpg breakage recently in Feisty... is this a known issue?  (libreadline symbols not found)
[04:32] <scguy318> utarpradesh: alright, what does sudo mount -a say?
[04:32] <Bil1> and my graphics card is installed and everything, im thinkin its an easy fix
[04:32] <kelsin> mrfantastic: just starts you off by default with a system that uses less resouces, you could also use the atlernate cd and start with a cli system
[04:32] <scguy318> utarpradesh: pastebin what the command sudo mount -a does
[04:32] <Dankchild> all of y'all are so helpful, and yall have made my experiance so far very very enjoyable
[04:32] <Dankchild> experience*
[04:32] <utarpradesh> okay,
[04:32] <utarpradesh> !pastebin
[04:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:32] <Bil1> dankchild: thats what i love about ubuntu
[04:32] <ayanph> same here... i'm almost done upgrading to 7.10
[04:32] <scguy318> Bil1: is Compiz enabled?
[04:32] <ayanph> thanks guys for helping
[04:33] <mrfantastic> alright thanks
[04:33] <limecat> anyone have any ideas on doing an LVM install from live cd?
[04:33] <Bil1> scguy318: yes i believe it is, if not how do i make sure?
[04:33] <catach> limecat: that's a good point. Anything to cut down confusion.
[04:33] <bazhang> Dankchild: between here, ubuntuforums and teh google, all of your answers can be found swiftly and pleasantly (or nearly all)
[04:33] <kmag> hey, do any of you have a version of libreadline.so.5 that has _rl_term_dc defined?
[04:34] <utarpradesh> scguy318: it is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46910/
[04:34] <Jangari> having trouble installing software: i tried to install netatalk a while back and it didn't work, now the package tries to reinstall every time I run a synaptic
[04:34] <scguy318> kmag: how would I find out? :P
[04:34] <ayanph> bye guys need to restart to complete the upgrade
[04:34] <Jangari> tried removing, purging, nothing is working,
[04:34] <ayanph> it was nice chatting with you. will definitely go back if i need help in the future
[04:34] <kelsin> kmag: the default ubuntu one doesn't?
[04:35] <scguy318> utarpradesh: then do sudo ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 -o force
[04:35] <scguy318> Jangari: remove the package, it seems to be broken
[04:35] <kmag> scguy318: objdump -t /lib/libreadline.so.5 | grep _rl_term_dc
[04:35] <scguy318> Jangari: *the package
[04:35] <kmag> kelsin: I did an upgrade this morning and gpg broke :-(
[04:36] <Jangari> apt-get remove netatalk?
[04:36] <don_pucci> hey all
[04:36] <scguy318> kmag: count me out then
[04:36] <don_pucci> can someone help me with a dual boot question
[04:36] <Bil1> may i get help enabling compiz, i believe i do have it enabled but nothing is working, my graphics card is installed properly, i think its somethin easy just cant find it :p
[04:36] <utarpradesh> scguy318: i have done this
[04:36] <utarpradesh> i entered the command
[04:36] <Jangari> Bil1: try rebooting, it worked for me several times.
[04:36] <kmag> oh... my readline is borked
[04:36] <bazhang> Bil1: have youenabled compiz?
[04:37] <Falican>  i just installed the python-mysqldb package but python isn't finding it is there something extra i need to do (i used the synaptic package manager btw)??
[04:37] <Jangari> scguy318: apt-get remove netatalk?
[04:37] <kmag> SYMBOL TABLE:
[04:37] <kmag> no symbols
[04:37] <Bil1> bazhang: i think so but how exactly would i
[04:37] <limecat> noone has help on doing LVM install from live cd? :(
[04:37] <Bil1> jangari: i have restarted
[04:37] <bazhang> Bil1: alt-f2 compiz --replace
[04:37] <don_pucci> i currently have 3 hard discs...one has windows (ide) one is empty (sata) and the third is just files (ide)
[04:37] <scguy318> Jangari: yeah
[04:37] <don_pucci> i want to put ubuntu on the sata drive
[04:38] <don_pucci> but put lilo on the first ide windows drive
[04:38] <kelsin> don_pucci: any reason you want lilo instead of grub? Ubuntu uses grub by default
[04:38] <Jangari> i got an error, scguy318,
[04:38] <don_pucci> sorry..i meant grub
[04:38] <don_pucci> :)
[04:38] <scguy318> Jangari: pastebin it?
[04:38] <kmag> python lost readline support?
[04:38] <Bil1> bazhang: do i need to restart once doing that?
[04:38] <kmag> :-(
[04:38] <Jangari> what's the url for that?
[04:39] <scguy318> !pastebin
[04:39] <bazhang> Bil1: no
[04:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:39] <limecat> don_pucci: near the end of the install you can specify which drive grub is placed on
[04:39] <don_pucci> but i dont understand the terminolgy it uses
[04:39] <don_pucci> hda
[04:39] <soulwarp> hey
[04:39] <limecat> hda is gonna be ide
[04:39] <xeroOTG> s
[04:39] <xeroOTG> does anyone here have experience with bcm43xx?
[04:39] <xeroOTG> !bcm43xx
[04:39] <limecat> sda is gonna be sata
[04:39] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[04:39] <don_pucci> oh
[04:39] <don_pucci> thx
[04:39] <don_pucci> i will try it
[04:39] <Bil1> bazhang: how do i enable the initiate ctrl alt button1?
[04:40] <limecat> keep in mind you have 2 ides, so verify which is yer windows drive first
[04:40] <bazhang> Bil1: do you have ccsm installed?
[04:40] <Jangari> scguy318: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46912/
[04:40] <don_pucci> yes...primary ide
[04:40] <don_pucci> secondary is other drive
[04:40] <Bil1> bazhang: yes sir, im lookin at it
[04:41] <limecat> gnight all, off to repair windows :(
[04:41] <don_pucci> tu again
[04:41] <bazhang> Bil1: do you have the appropriate boxes checked? try some of the keybindings to see
[04:42] <Bil1> bazhang: i have the things i want checked, checked, but i cant enable ctrl alt button1 for some reason, thats what i use to rotate. im thinkin the normal gnome desktop is stoppin me?
[04:42] <kmag> can someone confirm for me that their version of libreadline contains symbols?
[04:43] <riotkittie> Bil1: are you clicking on a window, or an empty section of the desktop?
[04:43] <kmag> objdump -t /lib/libreadline.so.5
[04:43] <Mashi> Hey I'm having trouble getting flash to work in firefox on 7.10. I've enabled the extra repositories, firefox says flash is installed when I attempt to download it, but it gives me a missing plugin when I try to view flash content. Would a manual install fix this?
[04:43] <bazhang> Bil1: ok, try the alt-f2 metacity --replace command, then again with alt-f2 compiz --replace and see if that does it
[04:43] <kmag> I'm hoping I just got a corrupted package
[04:43] <Bil1> riotkittie: i am clicking empty sections, i see that ctrl alt button one is disabled i just cant enable it
[04:43] <bullgard4> "detlef@MD97600:~$ apropos xmag; xmag (1x)  - magnify parts of the screen" What does here '(1x)' mean?
[04:44] <kmag> how do I force reinstallation of a package?
[04:44] <mike01> any idea why i get no signal on my monitor unless i boot in recovery mode?
[04:44] <scguy318> kmag: sudo aptitude reinstall package
[04:44] <kitofhawaii> kmag: SYMBOL TABLE: no symbols
[04:44] <scguy318> mike01: you might need to reconfigure xserver
[04:44] <scguy318> mike01: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:44] <mike01> nope
[04:44] <kmag> kitofhawail: have you been having any trouble?
[04:44] <mike01> works fine when i boot the recovery mode
[04:44] <riotkittie> Bil1: bizarre.
[04:44] <kitofhawaii> kmag: none that i'm aware of...:)
[04:45] <scguy318> Mashi: issue, Adobe seems to have updated their tar recently
[04:45] <mike01> but normally as soon as i hit enter in gurb i get no signal on the monitor
[04:45] <mike01> not even getting to where xorg is doing anything
[04:45] <mike01> video card is an 8800gt
[04:45] <bazhang> Bil1: try control alt left or right arrow
[04:45] <utarpradesh> how do i get ubuntu to recognise my iPod as a flash drive??
[04:45] <scguy318> Mashi: do this
[04:45] <Bil1> bazhang: man i felt good about that one, but not a success, still cant enable ctrl alt button1 and the other effects do not work
[04:45] <Dr_willis> mike01,  you may want to disable the frambuffer in the kernel options. You may be able to see any error messages then.
[04:45] <akaran> everyone, what is your default font for desktop?
[04:45] <mike01> if i boot recovery though i can install the newest drivers and run compiz fusion on dual monitors (everything works fine)
[04:45] <Bil1> bazhang: still does what normal ubuntu does
[04:45] <riotkittie> wait. none of the effects work?
[04:45] <scguy318> Mashi: http://rapidshare.com/files/74380214/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz.html
[04:46] <mike01> but in regular mode i cant even see the command line to fix whatever is wrong
[04:46] <riotkittie> Bil1: what gfx card?
[04:46] <Bil1> riotkittie: yes sir
[04:46] <mike01> just no signal
[04:46] <scguy318> Mashi: after downloading, do
[04:46]  * Dr_willis wonders what recoverymode actually does.
[04:46] <bazhang> Bil1: and you have checked the appearances settings to custom? not in ccsm but appearance
[04:46] <Jangari> scguy318: did you get that paste?
[04:46] <scguy318> Mashi: sudo cp /path/to/tar /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree
[04:46] <mike01> Dr_willis how do i disable the framebuffer in the kernel options?
[04:46] <Bil1> riotkittie: its a 256 ati, its installed properly
[04:46] <Mashi> scguy318: Thanks
[04:46] <scguy318> Jangari: no actually, please link
[04:46] <Malekith777> hello
[04:46] <Bil1> bazhang: ah lemme check
[04:46] <bazhang> Bil1: not sure that riotkittie is a sir :}
[04:46] <Dr_willis> mike01,  cant see the console at all. Tat sure sounds like a framebuffer thang.  Notice the recovery mode uses a 'nofb' option. Put that in your grub entry for your normal kernel
[04:46] <Jangari> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46912/
[04:47] <Bil1> riotkittie: :p sorry
[04:47] <scguy318> Mashi: then do sudo aptitude reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[04:47] <Dr_willis> mike01,  as a test. yopu could edit the normal boot kernel line and append 'nofb nosplash'  to test.
[04:47] <riotkittie> Bil1: no need to apologize ;)
[04:47] <scguy318> Jangari: try, oh, sudo dpkg-reconfigure netatalk
[04:47] <scguy318> Jangari: or edit a conf file for it to appease it
[04:48] <utarpradesh> how do i access my ipod as a drive rather than as a music device, in ubuntu?
[04:48] <Bil1> bazhang: ok i went to visual effects to custom and it says composite extensions not available
[04:48] <bqmassey> anyone:  is there any reason to use banshee over rythmbox
[04:48] <Jangari> . /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: netatalk is broken or not fully installed
[04:48] <mike01> Dr_willis one word? what exactly do i add to the end of the entry in grub?
[04:49] <bazhang> Bil1: then its a video card driver issue--which card? ati nvidia intel? and which driver
[04:49] <Bil1> bazhang: oh and how do i type your name easier and force quit, thanks very much for your help so far
[04:49] <mwansa>  hey i would like to install cedega from .tgz file, ( i understand .deb is better - just experimenting).. do i just extract the .tgz file to / ?
[04:49] <Bil1> bazhang: its an ati
[04:49] <Dr_willis> mike01,  nofb to disable the framebuffer. nosplash to disalb ethe splash screen  - I change the line 0----->   # defoptions=quiet nosplash nofb       then rerun 'update-grub' to make it the defaulkt for all my kernels.
[04:49] <bazhang> Bil1: tab completion--type first three letters then hit tab key ati which card and which drivers
[04:49] <scguy318> Jangari: hmm
[04:49] <zea> hi all somebody has an idea how to start js2mouse whith the sistem startup process?
[04:50] <jaypro> what do you guys use to rip cds?
[04:50] <Dr_willis> mike01,  OR at the grub menu you can hit 'e' to edit the kernel= line and tack those onto the end
[04:50] <mike01> yeah thats what i've been doing everytime i boot
[04:50] <Jangari> i just want to be rid of this damn netatalk
[04:50] <mike01> need to change the grub.list from hd1,1 to hd0,1 everytime...
[04:50] <jaypro> what do you guys use to rip cds? i tried K3b but it doesnt seem to be working
[04:50] <scguy318> Jangari: is there a file named /etc/netatalk/netatalk.conf?
[04:50] <bazhang> jaypro: k3b
[04:50] <scguy318> jaypro: dd :P
[04:50] <Bil1> bazhang: im sorry, i dont understand your last message :/
[04:51] <kitofhawaii> Bil1: from terminal, "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver" what's the last line say?
[04:51] <mwansa> jaypro, dd
[04:51] <zea> i tried via rc5.d but nothing happend
[04:51] <bazhang> jaypro: need to install plugins
[04:51] <Jangari> i have these two: /usr/share/man/man5/netatalk.conf.5.gz and /var/lib/dpkg/info/netatalk.conffiles
[04:51] <Jangari> they're the only results of a locate netatalk.conf command
[04:51] <lucienium> Hi guys! I just upgraded my distribution from 7.04 to 7.10, after my system restarted "Restart" and "Shut Down" no longer appears when I access the "Quit" menu
[04:51] <Bil1> kitofhawaii: sorry for no pastebin :/         Driver          "kbd"
[04:51] <Bil1>         Driver          "mouse"
[04:51] <Bil1>         Driver          "synaptics"
[04:51] <Bil1>         Driver          "wacom"
[04:51] <Bil1>         Driver          "wacom"
[04:51] <Bil1>         Driver          "wacom"
[04:51] <Bil1>         Driver          "fglrx"
[04:51] <jaypro> bazhang what plugins? i installed the mp3 pluggin, but still gets an error
[04:51] <r00tintheb0x> AWESOME BILL!!!!!
[04:51] <r00tintheb0x> AWESOME BILL!!!!!
[04:51] <bazhang> Bil1: easy nickname completion is done by typing first few letters of said nick (name), and then hitting the 'tab' key on your kb
[04:52] <r00tintheb0x> ! flooding  | bill
[04:52] <ubotu> bill: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:52] <mike01> do i leave ro quiet splash on the kernel line?
[04:52] <kitofhawaii> Bil1: lol just wanted the last line...
[04:52] <bazhang> jaypro: the lame plugin iirc
[04:52] <jaypro> scguy318, mwansa whats dd? thats not the full name, is it?
[04:52] <Bil1> bazhang: nice ty, did you see the message i said to kitsofhawaii
[04:53] <scguy318> jaypro: that's the full name
[04:53] <scguy318> jaypro: dd is low-level file copy tool
[04:53] <scguy318> Jangari: check /etc/netatalk
[04:53] <Bil1> kitofhawaii: ok, sorry, did you get the info you needed though
[04:53] <scguy318> Jangari: should be some conf files in there
[04:53] <linuxftw> ok when i do ls; i seem ipodpatcher can anyone help me do chmod +x /.ipodpatcher on it??
[04:53] <bazhang> Bil1: hard to miss :}
[04:53] <kitofhawaii> Bil1: yah just wanted to know which ati driver you were using :)
[04:54] <Bil1> bazhang: lol sry, so any more suggestions
[04:54] <subpar_> anyone have ideas about this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3839154 <--- having mouse problems
[04:54] <jaypro> bazhang> hrm.. idont see this plugin in synaptic
[04:54] <Jangari> atalkd.conf, afpd.conf and papd.conf
[04:54] <Bil1> kitofhawaii: did it help with what could be wrong..
[04:54] <lucienium>  I just upgraded my distribution from 7.04 to 7.10, after my system restarted "Restart" and "Shut Down" no longer appears when I access the "Quit" menu
[04:54]  * mike01 tries it again
[04:54] <Bil1> kitofhawaii: oh and how do i force quit, its drivin me nuts not have ctrl alt del
[04:54] <scguy318> Jangari: i dropped off, say anything?
[04:55] <Mashi> scguy318: Thanks a ton, flash works now
[04:55] <scguy318> Bil1: killall processname
[04:55] <thenetduck> what channel would I go to ask about a couple scripting commands?
[04:55] <lucienium> I restarted a couple of times by holding on to the power button but "Shut down" and "Restart" still won't appear on the "Quit" menu
[04:55] <kitofhawaii> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[04:55] <kitofhawaii> Bil1: go to that link
[04:55] <corruptionoflulz> Bil1: , i have a system monitor thing in my tray, i click that an a task manager type thingy pops up.
[04:55] <subpar_> Bil1, if you click on the panel, and click add to panel... there is an icon in there called force quit
[04:55] <scguy318> thenetduck: #bash perhaps
[04:55] <thenetduck> scguy318, thanks
[04:55] <subpar_> Bil1, which you can click then click on a window without having to go into a process menu
[04:56] <Bil1> sweet thanks for all the answers guys
[04:56] <kitofhawaii> Bil1: it covers everything you need to know about ati
[04:56] <bazhang> jaypro: how about apt-cache search lame in the terminal--does that turn it up?
[04:56] <Bil1> kitofhawaii: ok ill check it out, does it say compiz wont work though?
[04:56] <corruptionoflulz> Bil1: subpar_ said, usually you can just click close a few times then it'll bring up a force quit menu
[04:56] <jaypro> bazhang ive never done that before... how do you do it?
[04:56] <kitofhawaii> Bil1: it'll explain how to get it up and running, and gives you help if there's problems
[04:57] <Bil1> corruptionoflulz: thanks, i added the force quit shortcut
[04:57] <treitter> kelsin: have you used GnomeBaker?
[04:57] <bazhang> jaypro: open the terminal and type apt-cache search packagename (in this case lame)
[04:57] <subpar_> corruptionoflulz, you ain't nothing but an exploding van
[04:57] <corruptionoflulz> =(
[04:57] <subpar_> lul
[04:57] <Bil1> kitofhawaii: aight ill check it out, i know i got it running and properly but maybe itll tell me i need a lil more
[04:57] <Jangari> yeah scguy318, i was just on the phone i have three conf files:
[04:57] <Jangari> oops, hold on
[04:58] <jaypro> bazhang> all this information comes up
[04:58] <Jangari> afpd.conf  atalkd.conf  papd.conf
[04:58] <kitofhawaii> Bil1: hope so :) it's ati's "unofficial" "official" wiki
[04:58] <treitter> kelsin: it seems fine except that it won't let me burn directory structures greater than 6 dirs deep (even if I only select "Rock Ridge" as the filesystem; it still ends up passing "-iso-level 3", which doesn't support deep trees)
[04:58] <scguy318> Jangari: I think edit one of those for interface
[04:58] <shameless> can wine only support one .exe at a time, or can it run multiple threads?
[04:59] <scguy318> shameless: it can handle multiple processes and threads
[04:59] <Jangari> alright, but this is getting beyond me.
[04:59] <scguy318> Jangari: probably edit as root, then save and try to remove
[04:59] <bazhang> jaypro: at the bottom should be a listing for lame--do you see it?
[04:59] <shameless> hrmm, ok, mine wasn't starting the second one for some reason...
[04:59] <lucienium> guys, a little help please :'(
[04:59] <bullgard4> "detlef@MD97600:~$ apropos xmag; xmag (1x)  - magnify parts of the screen" What does here '(1x)' mean?
[04:59] <Jangari> sudo pico?
[04:59] <Jangari> will od?
[04:59] <Jangari> do*
[04:59] <jaypro> bazhang> yeah, it says "lame" and "lame-extras"
[04:59] <Jangari> and what sort of edit should I do?
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone know of a way to sync contact information between desktop address books (Thunderbird, Evolution, etc.) and GMail?
[05:00] <bazhang> jaypro: install them then
[05:00] <scguy318> Jangari: theres a bug for this package I believe, packages that dont remove are annoying :P
[05:00] <scguy318> Jangari: theres a bug for this package I believe, packages that dont remove are annoying :P
[05:00] <mike01> Dr_willis: that fixed it, thanks
[05:00] <adamonline45> What's my superkey on a macbook?
[05:01] <bazhang> apple key?
[05:01] <Jangari> the papd is all # lines, that can't be the right conf
[05:01] <shameless> it's the windows key on pcs, so i would assume the apple
[05:01] <DG19075> the apple command key
[05:01] <jaypro> bazhang> what do i type? "sudo apt-get install lame" and "sudo apt-get install lame-extras"?
[05:01] <adamonline45> DG19075: bazhang: That's what I'd think, but I don't see it...
[05:02] <adamonline45> DG19075: bazhang: er, it doesn't work :O
[05:02] <jaypro> bazhang> ok nm
[05:02] <bazhang> jaypro: bingo, though you can install the two with a single command: sudo apt-get install lame lame-extras
[05:03] <bazhang> adamonline45: the alt key? not sure there
[05:03] <Jangari> grr, i'm giving up and going home, thanks for the help though, scguy318, as always
[05:03] <adamonline45> DG19075: bazhang: is it called mod4?  That's what my command key's mapped to...
[05:04] <rainrunner87> Hey, has anyone noticed that the version of deluge in the repos doesn't come with the scheduler plugin?
[05:04] <jaypro> bazhang> ahhh sweet!  it works!  thanks a lot man!!
[05:04] <bazhang> jaypro: welcome to linux :}
[05:04] <utarpradesh> is there a program for ubuntu that allows me to access my iPod as a flash drive, rather than as a music device?
[05:05] <rainrunner87> utarpradesh: I believe the iPod is treated as a flash drive by default, iirc
[05:05] <bazhang> adamonline45: I've got a mac, just never installed ubuntu on it   sorry.. :}
[05:05] <jaypro> bazhang> yeah ive been using linux for awhile now, theres just soo much to learn hehhe
[05:06] <DG19075> adamonline45 :No idea, as it's been awhilesince I've used a Mac
[05:06] <utarpradesh> rainrunner87, no, ubuntu doesn't mount it for whatever reason: i cannot access it by default
[05:06] <scguy318> Jangari: np cya
[05:06] <bazhang> jaypro: tell me about it :}
[05:06] <adamonline45> DG19075: bazhang: alright, ty 8)
[05:06] <rainrunner87> utarpradesh: That's not helpful.  Hmm....  Let's see what I remember about this...
[05:08] <Dankchild> hey guys everything was going fine until i went to ubuntu through supergrub, and now that i want to go back to windows, when i select it at grub it says error 21 no such disk
[05:09] <bazhang> adamonline45: no worries :}
[05:09] <Dankchild> hey guys everything was going fine until i went to ubuntu through supergrub, and now that i want to go back to windows, when i select it at grub it says error 21 no such disk
[05:09] <Dankchild> oops sent it twice
[05:09] <tritium> Dankchild: ubuntu doesn't use supergrub
[05:10] <Dankchild> it said it would just return my grub to the way it was, and it did. now i cant access windows
[05:10] <DG19075> Dankchild, just use the regular GRUB
[05:10] <Dankchild> how do i do that?
[05:10] <Dankchild> from what i know it is regular grub
[05:10] <tritium> Dankchild: we don't support supergrub.  Consult its documentation.
[05:10] <DG19075> !grub |Dankchild
[05:10] <ubotu> Dankchild: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:10] <scguy318> Dankchild: check your menu.lst
[05:11] <rainrunner87> utarpradesh: Does it give you an error?
[05:12] <utarpradesh> rainrunner87: yes, let me copy/paste it
[05:14] <bullgard4> "detlef@MD97600:~$ apropos xmag; xmag (1x)  - magnify parts of the screen" What does here '(1x)' mean?
[05:14] <utarpradesh> "Cannot mount volume.... Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'doctor...'. "
[05:14] <rainrunner87> Can you try mounting it by hand?
[05:14] <utarpradesh> how do i do this?
[05:15] <x[tr0x]x> /server irc.mongolia.com
[05:15] <rainrunner87> utarpradesh: Ok, hold on, I'm going to check for similar instances of your error.  If I don't find any hints from the web, I'll string some command-line commands together for you to enter.
[05:15] <utarpradesh> okay, thanks
[05:15] <Sekvent> hello
[05:15] <AgentHeX> anyone here know how to force usage of the nvidia restricted driver for Xen?  i can't boot to Xen with the amd64 one, and i can't live without compiz.
[05:15] <Sekvent> can anyone help me with um a wireless problem in ubuntu
[05:16] <AgentHeX> Sekvent: what kind of problem?
[05:16] <MauricioBR> I am doing a research on what best linux to run the games by the wine / cedega / crossover you know of any?
[05:17] <scguy318> MauricioBR: best Linux? like?
[05:17] <Sekvent> AgentHeX, well, I get um a connection in Network Manager, but it still doesn't connect to wireless
[05:17] <MauricioBR> yes
[05:17] <scguy318> MauricioBR: what do you mean best Linux?
[05:17] <AgentHeX> MauricioBR: are you looking for games to play or the distro to run?  wine should work on all of them, and it's pretty good (includes DX9)
[05:17] <nick_> is there a way to remedy the sound initialization problem when trying to use konversasion
[05:17] <Sekvent> AgentHex, I mean like I got a signal of certain % but that's all
[05:17] <nick_> is there a way to remedy the sound initialization problem when trying to use konversation in gnome
[05:17] <AgentHeX> Sekvent: you can't connect to the AP?
[05:18] <Sekvent> AgentHeX, um well, I don't even know =\
[05:18] <aaanone> I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 7.10, and flash-plugin-nonfree is installed, yet Firefox is telling me that I need to install it
[05:18] <shameless> hrm, i need to run a battery evaluation, linux can't figure out the charge time/discharge time
[05:18] <aaanone> what is up?
[05:18] <AgentHeX> Sekvent: are you on the machine now?  i.e. are you chatting on that machine?
[05:18] <MauricioBR> AgentHeX
[05:18] <MauricioBR> You know that some of it will already pre-configured?
[05:19] <Sekvent> AgentHeX, well I am in WinXP now, no internet on ubuntu
[05:19] <shameless> why not?
[05:19] <CaptainMorgan> why does g++ require the installation cd to install? is there an alternative? I'm on the road and don't have the capacity to burn cds
[05:19] <orochi_> Hi :> This is kind of an off-topic question, but I'm sure people have dealt with it before...I do a lot of web development in PHP and I'm looking to branch out -- would it be wise to, say, move to a mod_python or mod_ruby combination, or are packages like rails and turbogears more likely to be hosted?
[05:19] <shameless> the wireless console not supported?
[05:19] <scguy318> CaptainMorgan: you don't
[05:19] <Sekvent> AgentHeX, I tried pinging google let's say, it says unknown host or something
[05:19] <scguy318> CaptainMorgan: System -> Admin -> Software Sources, uncheck the CD
[05:19] <riotkittie> CaptainMorgan: check your sources, comment out CD
[05:20] <AgentHeX> MauricioBR: well, i'm not aware of any distribution that has Windows emulation out of the box (so to speak), but Ubuntu has a very nice package management system (called Synaptic) that allows you to seamlessly install software (including Wine)
[05:20] <AgentHeX> Sekvent: have you looked at the output from ifconfig?
[05:20] <MauricioBR> [AgentHeX]: thanks
[05:20] <Sekvent> AgentHeX, yea, it seems like something is there under wlan0
[05:20] <CaptainMorgan> awesome, thanks scguy318 riotkittie
[05:20] <bazhang> MauricioBR: probably sabayon would be closest
[05:21] <aaanone> I'm so confused
[05:21] <AgentHeX> Sekvent: has it assigned an IP address?
[05:21] <smultron> how do you get a T1 line on an ethernet network? is there a converter router or switch or something?
[05:21] <aaanone> apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree works but then I get an error about a 'version mismatch' ... anyone know what is the problem?
[05:22] <Sekvent> AgentHeX, um, I've really no idea, but can I like pm you on forums all the info I can gather on my connection and you'll check what is wrong? Like a quick glance of it kind of
[05:22] <AgentHeX> smultron: yes.  there is a box that translates from T1 signal to standard 10/100 ethernet.
[05:22] <AgentHeX> yes
[05:22] <AgentHeX> Sekvent: yes
[05:22] <Luke> is there a way I can access my vista computer via remote desktop from linux? what's a good Linux VNC client for that?
[05:22] <scguy318> Luke: vncviewer? :P
[05:22] <smultron> AgentHeX: does that usually come with the T1 line when they install it?
[05:22] <Luke> I'm on the same local network as the vista comp
[05:22] <Sekvent> AgentHeX, alrighty, thanks a lot, I ll try to do it asap
[05:23] <AgentHeX> smultron: probably, but i don't have first-hand experience with this.  i have, however, seen an unused box that translates from T1 to ethernet.
[05:23] <scguy318> Luke: Apps -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client does the trick too
[05:23] <Luke> scguy318: thanks
[05:23] <speeddemon8803> Beat me to the draw scguy318 heh.
[05:23] <smultron> AgentHeX: ah, alright. thanks for the info ;)
[05:23] <AgentHeX> smultron: np
[05:23] <see> hey guys, I'm having a hell of a time trying to get my monitor/nvida dirvers to work correctly
[05:23] <see> could somone help me?
[05:24] <AgentHeX> smultron: i would probably ask the vendor if you're planning on getting a T1
[05:24] <aaanone> did adobe recently update Flash?
[05:24] <aaanone> anyone else getting errors trying to install the flashplugin?
[05:24] <smultron> AgentHeX: yeah. sounds like a good idea. i'll do that tomorrow. thanks
[05:24] <scguy318> aaanone: lots of people have
[05:25] <AgentHeX> smultron: any time
[05:25] <aaanone> scguy318: do you mind telling me what I need to do to fix it?
[05:25] <scguy318> aaanone: sure
[05:25] <scguy318> aaanone: http://rapidshare.com/files/74380214/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz.html
[05:25] <scguy318> aaanone: copy this to /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree as root, then do sudo aptitude reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[05:25] <see> anyone able help with Nvida driver help?
[05:25] <scguy318> aaanone: Adobe did indeed update their Linux release
[05:26] <AgentHeX> aaanone: have you tried simply opening firefox and navigating to a page that requires flash?
[05:26] <Luke> scguy318: what do I have to do on the vista side? I've only ever used Linux
[05:26] <lucian> i just installed kdegames. . . how do I update my kde menu to reflect that? (i tried restarting kde) (and yes, I asked in #kubuntu but the room is dead)
[05:26] <scguy318> Luke: it has to run the VNC Server, about it
[05:26] <see> help?
[05:26] <Luke> scguy318: do you have a vnc server pref?
[05:26] <scguy318> Luke: the official VNC Server
[05:27] <scguy318> Luke: or Tight
[05:27] <aaanone> AgentHeX: no I haven't...if I install it that way does it download/install it using apt?
[05:27] <Luke> scguy318: vista comes w/ one?
[05:27] <scguy318> Luke: no
[05:27] <scguy318> Luke: the official VNC server by RealVNC
[05:27] <Luke> scguy318: ah thanks a lot for your help
[05:27] <Luke> I appreciate it
[05:27] <scguy318> aaanone: as of this moment flashplugin-nonfree is a bit broken due to Adobe's updating
[05:27] <scguy318> aaanone: my little workaround should get you up and running
[05:27] <AgentHeX> aaanone: i don't know, but i would assume so.  it worked for me.
[05:28] <scguy318> AgentHeX: Adobe recently updated their tarball, so flashplugin-nonfree is broken at moment
[05:28] <AgentHeX> scguy318: good thing i did this a few days ago, huh?
[05:28] <greylurk> Gr..  Wine and OpenGL don't seem to get along very well.
[05:28] <scguy318> AgentHeX: yep
[05:28] <greylurk> At least not on this laptop video.
[05:29] <see> anyone help??
[05:29] <speeddemon8803> what was your question see?
[05:29] <Luke> scguy318: when tightvnc has a "viewer" binary... does that mean the client is viewing the host or what?
[05:29] <romme> i've installed the Cambria font, but freetype renders no latin letters at 11pt and smaller
[05:29] <bazhang> see: with what?
[05:29] <see> I need help with my fx 5200 xconf
[05:29] <scguy318> Luke: its the binary that the client uses
[05:29] <see> I cant get out of 800x600
[05:29] <pg> What are the relative advantages of swap partitions and swap files?
[05:30] <AgentHeX> wait!  dammit!  i formatted after i had the plugin, and now it's gone!!!  ACK!!!
[05:30] <Luke> scguy318: I don't see any differentiation between client and server on tightvnc's site?
[05:30] <scguy318> pg: negligible difference
[05:30] <scguy318> AgentHeX: I have the tarball
[05:30] <scguy318> Luke: probably all in one package then
[05:30] <scguy318> AgentHeX: http://rapidshare.com/files/74380214/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz.html
[05:30] <bullgard4> "detlef@MD97600:~$ apropos xmag; xmag (1x)  - magnify parts of the screen" What does here '(1x)' mean?
[05:30] <Evanlec> anyone here get past photoshop cs2 activation on wine 0.9.4x ?
[05:30] <Luke> thansk mate
[05:30] <scguy318> AgentHeX: put that in /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree
[05:30] <see> I've stumped a couple of people on the #ubuntuforum
[05:30] <scguy318> AgentHeX: then sudo aptitude reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[05:31] <see> Now I'm looking for help here...
[05:31] <pg> scguy318: is one faster?
[05:31] <scguy318> pg: not really, they're pretty similar
[05:31] <speeddemon8803> everyone: im out, just wanted to see what all I could do tonight, my limited knowledge is way beyond all discussions tonight, so im going to bed. hehe.
[05:31] <scguy318> pg: go with what you want
[05:31] <scguy318> AgentHeX: do you believe I should file a new bug? there were some old bug entries back in July
[05:31] <aaanone> scguy318: a lot of people are just recommending downloading/installing the tarball from Adobe's site...is that a bad idea?
[05:32] <databits> hey whats up everyone could someone help me out with an installation problem I am having
[05:32] <scguy318> aaanone: well, its what flashplugin-nonfree does
[05:32] <databits> really appreciate the help
[05:32] <scguy318> aaanone: if you're fine with manual install, go ahead
[05:33] <scguy318> aaanone: otherwise you can give it the older tarball
[05:33] <speeddemon8803> databits: what seems to be your issue?
[05:33] <aaanone> scguy318: yeah I'm fine doing that, I'm just concerned that it is going to bypass apt and be a pain to update or whatever in the future
[05:33] <shameless> what's the command to add ports to the iptables?
[05:33] <databits> well I don't have any blank cds
[05:33] <databits> I am have two lappies
[05:33] <scguy318> aaanone: not really, shouldn't be that big a blocker
[05:34] <databits> one I am keeping xp on but the other is running xp on it right now but I want to throw ubuntu on it
[05:34] <databits> out of cds though I am trying to figure out how to install over the network
[05:34] <pg> scguy318: if I want to add more RAM later, can I resize the swap partition or add a new one?
[05:34] <see> So I take it no one is up to helping out with my NVID fx 5200 dirver problems??
[05:34] <shameless> databits: have you tried booting over the network?
[05:34] <scguy318> pg: yes
[05:34] <shameless> databits: i'm not sure exactly how to set it up, but you may be able to do something like that, or boot off of a flash drive
[05:35] <speeddemon8803> Shameless: You got this one? If so im going to bed.
[05:35] <databits> hahah I was trying ot figure that shit out earlier
[05:35] <Xzallion> seeitcoming: I just joined so I didn't see your problem, but i might be able to help.
[05:35] <databits> how abouts
[05:35] <shameless> speeddemon8803: yeah, i think i got it
[05:35] <speeddemon8803> Ok bud :)
[05:35] <databits> I went into my bios and told it to boot off network but I dont know about any other settings to make
[05:35] <databits> I do have a connector hooked up to my sata drive to make it an external usb drive
[05:35] <shameless> see: nvidia has open sourced drivers, you should be able to get them from the manuf.
[05:36] <see> been there...
[05:36] <bruenig> shameless, not open source
[05:36] <see> I'm stuck
[05:36] <databits> I would need to make some kind of boot floppy to install of that correct
[05:36] <shameless> they aren
[05:36] <see> I've had help on the #ubuntu channel and they were stumped
[05:36] <shameless> aren't? i thought they were
[05:36] <romme> sorry, i sorted my fonts problem
[05:36] <databits> actually I could probably figure things out if I can figure out how to make an ubuntu boot disk so I can just get the install started I can just run a ftp and install it that way
[05:37] <speeddemon8803> see: this is the #ubuntu channel hehe
[05:37] <AgentHeX> scguy318: thanks for the link
[05:37] <see> I ment the #ubuntuforums
[05:37] <databits> what would I have to do to make a ubuntu boot disk
[05:37] <shameless> databits: if you have a flash drive, you can use that, i think
[05:37] <rOMm> what do you think about using wine?
[05:37] <shameless> how did you install the first time?
[05:38] <databits> I don't have a flash drive
[05:38] <speeddemon8803> shameless: If you just unpack the iso to a flash drive that isnt enough..i know this for fact..ive tried it.
[05:38] <databits> I have a usb harddrive
[05:38] <rOMm> do you have a cd-rom?
[05:38] <databits> does anyone here know how to make a boot floopy ?
[05:38] <shameless> yeah, so have i, but if he can convince poweriso to see it as a cd, then you can 'burn' it to that
[05:38] <shameless> crap, i've gotta go study for my final that i have tomorrow, i'll see you
[05:39] <databits> what kind of final do you have tomorrow ?
[05:39] <speeddemon8803> later shameless, and i totally forgot about that.
[05:39] <dtork> is there a way to find the source type of my wireless card?
[05:39] <scguy318> dtork: chipset? lspci
[05:39] <pg> Why is swap space > 2 * RAM not recommended?  What if you run memory-hungry apps, like many Firefox windows at the same time?
[05:39] <scguy318> pg: because it's so wasteful
[05:39] <scguy318> pg: and if you need that much RAM for Firefox, install more RAM!
[05:39] <scguy318> pg: swap space is VERY slow
[05:40] <scguy318> pg: you only need swap space as big as RAM in order to hibernate or something
[05:40] <dtork> scguy318: thank you
[05:40] <ste-foy> scguy318: Thx a lot
[05:40] <scguy318> pg: 2*RAM was great in the days of DOS, when you could count on 8 MB max
[05:40] <pg> scguy318: Thanks.  Yet the advice is 2*ram for ram <= 2Gb, right?
[05:40] <mike01> how do i bridge my ethernet network with my wireless through nat, and setting up an ssid/ wpa2?
[05:40] <scguy318> pg: dont bother with 2*RAM at all
[05:40] <AgentHeX> now, anyone here know how to force usage of the nvidia restricted driver for Xen?  i can't boot to Xen with the amd64 one, and i can't live without compiz.
[05:41] <scguy318> pg:if you start using a large amount of swap, you're running slow
[05:41] <scguy318> pg: and thus need more RAM :)
[05:41] <pg> I see.
[05:41] <Dekkard> so how mucha ram do you have?
[05:41] <bulmer> mike01-> what is the reason for doing such?
[05:42] <mike01> share my internet connection with my laptop
[05:42] <mike01> needs to be nat though, only have 1 external ip
[05:42] <bulmer> mike01-> laptop and what?
[05:42] <mike01> and no router
[05:42] <mike01> connect laptop and desktop
[05:42] <ste-foy> OK Thx scguy318
[05:42] <mike01> desktop has a wireless card that is detected and works in linux
[05:43] <bulmer> mike01-> you have to respond with a prefix nick or else I may miss your responses
[05:43] <mike01> bulmer ok
[05:43] <mike01> bulmer: have you done this before?
[05:43] <qiyong> how to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10?
[05:43] <bulmer> mike01-> is it your desktop that has internet connection?
[05:44] <mike01> yes
[05:44] <scguy318> qiyong: System -> Admin -> Update Manager
[05:44] <AgentHeX> anyone?  anyone?  help with Xen and nvidia restricted driver?
[05:44] <databits> does anyone here know anythin about network installs ? msg me plz
[05:44] <bulmer> mike01-> i have something similar but using bridging is not the best way to do things
[05:44] <mike01> i don't have a router and don't plan on buying one
[05:45] <mike01> and im fine setting static routes
[05:45] <bulmer> mike01-> you have to respond with a prefix nick or else I may miss your responses <-- i will ignore you if you dont
[05:45] <mike01> bulmer i don't have a router and don't plan on buying one
[05:45] <qiyong> scguy318: i'm in console
[05:45] <mike01> bulmer and ok fine setting static routes
[05:45] <bulmer> mike01-> your desktp, assuming it uses linux can be a router
[05:45] <mike01> yes
[05:46] <qiyong> scguy318: tell me the command, X is ok
[05:46] <mike01> thats what i was planning on
[05:46] <scguy318> qiyong: update-manager :)
[05:46] <scguy318> qiyong: then jam upgrade, then it does the work
[05:46] <mike01> bulmer: yes, thats what i was planning on
[05:46] <kev_b> anyone know a good text editor for ubuntu? I like the syntax highlighting of gedit but i hate the tabs, I want a side bar with the files in it or similar...
[05:47] <dtork> anyone know if I can get a driver for a Texas Instruments PCI1410 wireless card?
[05:47] <neil_d> I have a 6.10 installation, when installing 7.10 can I resize the existing ext3 partition ?  so I can dual boot.
[05:47] <bulmer> mike01-> so set it up as such..but dont use bridging..you dont gain much
[05:47] <qiyong> scguy318: can apt-get et al do the same job?
[05:47] <mike01> need to have a private IP on the laptop
[05:48] <mike01> outside shouldn't be able to see the laptop
[05:48] <krupa^> anyone knows how set automaticly updates in uubuntu in cron
[05:48] <mike01> bulmer need to have a private IP on the laptop, outside shouldn't be able to see the laptop
[05:48] <krupa^> sodu apt-get upgrade -y? or somthing?
[05:49] <scguy318> qiyong: it might, not sure
[05:49] <haji> hi whats the command that untars a tar.bz2?
[05:49] <bulmer> mike01-> okay...your desktop has two ethernet nics?
[05:49] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[05:49] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12 (gutsy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[05:49] <mike01> bulmer desktop has one ethernet, and one wireless
[05:50] <neil_d> haji, you could try the archive manager gui.
[05:50] <haji> neil_d, thanks but im looking for the command
[05:50] <bulmer> mike01-> do you know if your wifi card can do host to host as opposed to host-to-AP?
[05:50] <Dankchild> hey guys im trying to reinstall my grub, and i have the intructions right here, but none of them make sense, please someone walk me through it.
[05:51] <mike01> i think so, its built in on an asus p5k-e wifi/ap mobo
[05:51] <chetnick> hi guys does anyone know what is this process scrollkeeper-up, its eating up so much of my CPU ?
[05:51] <mike01> bulmer i think so, its built in on an asus p5k-e wifi/ap mobo
[05:51] <Dankchild> please someone help me with grub
[05:51] <glassface> hello all..
[05:51] <bulmer> mike01-> why dont you test that portion first before getting to the next step of routing and nat ?
[05:51] <mike01> bulmer its sold as having AP functionality
[05:51] <glassface> I'm getting sudoers parsing error.  How can I repair/regenerate it?
[05:52] <neil_d> haji, with tar use the -j option should do it.
[05:52] <bulmer> mike01-> ie adhoc to adhoc
[05:52] <mike01> in knetwork manager i can see another "ethernet" connection under wireless
[05:52] <al-_-Gir> someone know about program in ubuntu like IDA PRO on windows ?
[05:52] <mike01> not sure if its a router or what
[05:52] <greylurk> For an intel video card in a laptop, which x server should I be using?
[05:52] <Dankchild> !grub
[05:52] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:52] <mike01> bulmer how would i test that
[05:53] <SanDiegoGermany> #list
[05:53] <bulmer> mike01-> if you have the manual, i'd read it ..to put it in that mode
[05:54] <ghost> what does this mean
[05:54] <ghost> To disable a service in this runlevel, rename its script in this directory
[05:54] <ghost> so that the new name begins with a 'K' and a two-digit number, where the
[05:54] <ghost> number is the difference between the two-digit number following the 'S'
[05:54] <mike01> its onboard
[05:54] <ghost> in its current name, and 100.  To re-enable the service, rename the script
[05:54] <ghost> back to its original name beginning with 'S'.
[05:54] <mike01> bulmer: its onboard, there arn't any switches on it
[05:55] <mike01> bulmer whats the difference between wlan0 and wmaster0
[05:55] <ghost> Is that not vuage?
[05:55] <bulmer> mike01-> via commands
[05:55] <Dankchild> can anyone see what im typing?
[05:55] <ghost> yes
[05:55] <mike01> bulmer ifconfig
[05:55] <mike01> i have wlan0 and wmaster0
[05:55] <mike01> bulmer they have different hwaddresses
[05:55] <Dankchild> k, its just that noone responded
[05:55] <bulmer> mike01-> man iwlist