[03:04] <Carbonflux> arrg, not really, for a lot of reasons, I mean I am sure there are a few but they are a lot harder to write and hide and propigate, also, linux is just not that popular on the desktop, you don't see a lot of botnets with linux machines in them for example, it a lot easier to see whats going on inside a linux machine and also your average linux user is a bit more technical.
[03:05] <osxdude> the little virus could have infected your flash drive...
[03:05] <Hulya_5> hello all...
[03:05] <Hulya_5> look at what you miss : http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/11/90/17/15/hjk10.jpg
[03:05] <osxdude> newbie: can you copy stuff of of the flash drive?
[03:05] <arrg> ok
[03:05] <singlesun> what carbon said... sounds good... lol
[03:05] <Hulya_5> look at what you miss : http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/11/90/17/15/hjk10.jpg
[03:05] <Carbonflux> arrg, anything is possible tho :)
[03:05] <hans_> Please, could anyone refer me to a good online bit torrent optimizing guide?
[03:06] <nemilar> jack-desktop: that how-to is pretty advanced... but it's saying to create that file
[03:06] <newbie> osxdude, nope, it says that I do not have permissions to copy into that folder
[03:06] <singlesun> unless you are a supernewbleet like me... and you find ways to bump into things that will purposefully screw up no matter what system you are running
[03:06] <jack-desktop> nemilar, i got everything except that one part
[03:06] <Carbonflux> singlesun, ya, happens to all of us that take risks
[03:06] <newbie> osxdude, do you know which command I can use to get rid of the permissions? I know it is something like chmod....
[03:06] <jack-desktop> nemilar, i put the echo in the file and then it says file not found, i'm assuming it should be there.. in the /.dbus/ folder
[03:07] <nemilar> jack-desktop: the ">" on a command-line is a way of saying "take the output and make it the contents of this file"
[03:07] <osxdude> newbie: chown and chmod, correct :)
[03:07] <Hulya_5> danc3 whispers to Hulya_5:rnHow'd you like to get your ass kicked, motherfucker?
[03:07] <nemilar> jack-desktop: do you have a ~/.dbus folder ?
[03:07] <jack-desktop> nemilar, no
[03:07] <nemilar> jack-desktop: so create it ;)
[03:07] <nemilar> jack-desktop: and then it should work fine
[03:07] <singlesun> Carbonflux, i intend to setup this desktop running virtual box to test different server os's with that excellent laptop i was talking about.. LOL
[03:07] <osxdude> !ops Hulya_5
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops hulya_5 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <jack-desktop> nemilar, i was thinking > meant like, extract data from that folder.. totally opposite.
[03:08] <nemilar> jack-desktop: ">" is overwrite, ">>" is append
[03:08] <osxdude> !ops | Hulya_5
[03:08] <ubotu> Hulya_5: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[03:08] <phuzion> anyone got any explanation why my flash is all messed up? it looks like this: http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8920/videocf6.png http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2218/youtubemainay3.png
[03:08] <Carbonflux> singlesun, heh
[03:08] <marx2k> !pastebin
[03:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:08] <newbie> osxdude, ok, I had used chmod before, but I do not know which options I have to use, could you tell me which options override the read/write protection?
[03:08] <Carbonflux> singlesun, I ope you get it working
[03:08] <nemilar> jack-desktop: both will create a file if it doesn't exist already, but it won't create a folder
[03:08] <Carbonflux> hope*
[03:08] <singlesun> hope is all there ever is... lol
[03:08] <Josie> Does anyone know how to forward sound using rdesktop?
[03:08] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Hulya_5
[03:08] <ubotu> Hulya_5: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:09] <Hulya_5> ubotu
[03:09] <osxdude> newbie: you should only need to use -R to gain read/write permissions of the flash drive
[03:09] <Hulya_5> can you hear me, ubotu ?
[03:09] <nemilar> Hulya_5: it's a bot.
[03:09] <phuzion> Hulya_5, ubotu is a bot
[03:09] <Hulya_5> really? nice
[03:09] <newbie> osxdude, ok, let me try that
[03:09] <Hulya_5> watch danc3 so bot !
[03:10] <nemilar> haha pwned
[03:10] <osxdude> exactly why I did the !ops command...he doesn't need help
[03:10] <nemilar> My left-click button is broken :( :( this makes computing very difficult.
[03:10] <LockesRabb> dvd playback isnt working
[03:10] <osxdude> owch'
[03:10] <LockesRabb> :)
[03:10] <wease|> tell that to a MAC fanboi
[03:10] <LockesRabb> er
[03:10] <LockesRabb> :(
[03:10] <wease|> hahaha
[03:10] <nemilar> weasel: haha, I said left-click, not right click
[03:10] <osxdude> thanks weasel :P
[03:11] <jsoftw> Ive got X11 running with no xorg.conf. It works cool, except I want to turn of compiz. How do i dump an xorg.conf so I can disable an option?
[03:11] <ale1> is this the right place to ask about a bad iptables config?
[03:11] <LockesRabb> i pop in a dvd, it just opens a window with folders...
[03:11] <osxdude> nemilar: switch the buttons so left is right and right is left
[03:11] <troms> Quick question: how do I format an SD card? I have gParted installed, but it can't find the device
[03:11] <nemilar> ale1: you could definitely try asking
[03:11] <hans_> Please, could anyone refer me to a good online bit torrent optimizing guide?
[03:11] <danc3> thank you PriceChild
[03:11] <nemilar> osxdude: that's what I'm doing at the moment, but it's driving me MADDDDDD
[03:11] <zim__>  I am new to linux, how do I read a cd?  I went to root and went into cdrom which was emtpy and then I tried /media/cdrom and /media/cdrom0, both empty  do I need to mount it and if so how?
[03:11] <troms> hans_:  torrentfreak.com
[03:11] <wease|> so change hands
[03:11] <osxdude> nemilar: use the enter key and the space bare AND the tab keys
[03:11] <Tm_T> !away > H4ck3rx|work
[03:11] <wease|> use the other hand
[03:11] <wease|> it will be fine
[03:11] <wease|> just kidding
[03:12] <singlesun> LockesRabb, dvd playback is not directly supported by ubuntu... you have to install a few packages
[03:12] <newbie> osxdude, sorry I got no clue on how to use this :(. Could you give me an example? I used sudo su, then went to the flashdrive folder, and used 'chmod -R papps', but is says 'missing operand after papps'
[03:12] <Scunizi> When looking at System Monitor/File System it shows /media/sdb1 as type "fuseblk".  Is that a file system type like ext3?  That designation doesn't show up in my fsab for any of my partitions.
[03:12] <ale1> @zim: what happens if you eject and then pop it in again?  for me it opens a window automatically
[03:12] <carloc> hi i'm having trouble installing ubuntu on an hp tx2000 tablet pc
[03:12] <carloc> i'm having a whitescreen
[03:12] <nemilar> osxdude: all the stores around here are closed, so I went on craigslist and now I'm trading my nintendo64 for a wireless mouse and keyboard set...guy should be here in an hour.
[03:12] <carloc> sort of clouds
[03:12] <Cpudan80> How can I get the gnome weather applet to download an extended forecast type thing?
[03:12] <carloc> when i put in the live cd
[03:12] <EADG> hans_: Google "torrent program name + wiki' Azareus has a good one for starters.
[03:12] <Cpudan80> Like a 5 day text based forecast
[03:12] <nemilar> Cpudan80: I don't think you can :( the xfce applet is _so_ much better
[03:12] <carloc> does anyon eknow how to solve this?
[03:12] <danc3> Cpudan80: did you read the documentation?
[03:12] <zim__>  ale1: im using server edition because I just wanted to have a personal LAMP to mess around with.  no gui.  I obviously installed off a cd though, so I know the drive works
[03:12] <LockesRabb> @singlesun, what packages do i need to install
[03:13] <Jewfro-Macabbi> carloc - there's an alternate/text mode install cd availalbe also
[03:13] <singlesun> LockesRabb, try this guide maybe http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-ubuntu-linux-playback-dvd/
[03:13] <osxdude> newbie: I think what you need it << sudo chmod -R 1000 /media/<flash drive name> >>
[03:13] <Cpudan80> danc3: Well it's not in the preferences...
[03:13] <H4ck3rx|work> thanks Tm_T
[03:13] <Cpudan80> danc3: No, I did not read the man page
[03:13] <Scunizi> nemilar, maybe the xfce appelate will work in gnome?  if it does tell Cpudan80
[03:13] <nemilar> Cpudan80: maybe if we both write letters to the gnome-weather-applet team, we can get them to include the feature
[03:13] <danc3> Cpudan80: no, I said "documentation", not "preferences"
[03:13] <carloc> will that solve the problem for an hp tx2000?
[03:13] <nemilar> Scunizi: I doubt it, I'm gonna try it out now
[03:13] <singlesun> LockesRabb, really you just need the CSS libraries
[03:13] <ale1> http://pastebin.com/d24b0591a  <-- my default iptables
[03:14] <singlesun> LockesRabb, perhaps  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[03:14] <Cpudan80> danc3: No - I have not
[03:14] <Jewfro-Macabbi> carloc, not certain - there's also network install for a quicker answer
[03:14] <Scunizi> danc3, what would you type for that.. man ??
[03:14] <ale1> I can't connect to anything with them, so I flushed them all and set policy to accept
[03:14] <danc3> Cpudan80: perhaps you should
[03:14] <carloc> i'm gonna try downloading it now
[03:14] <yannick_1m> hi there
[03:14] <carloc> i get a white screen
[03:14] <ale1> does anyone see a better way besides dumping my whole iptables?
[03:14] <carloc> sort of like a lava lamp
[03:14] <troms> So Ubuntu automounts the SD card, and I can open it and stuff, but I need to format it
[03:15] <singlesun> lol @ like a lava lamp
[03:15] <CITguy> does anybody know how I'd be able to change the color scheme for ONLY the gnome panels?
[03:15] <Shpook> !vcd
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <osxdude> carloc: your monitr needs help
[03:15] <ale1> @CITguy: can't you right click on them?
[03:15] <Shpook> How can I get vcd support?
[03:15] <Tm_T> H4ck3rx|work: you're welcome, I hope you learn from the wisdom of ubotu ;)
[03:15] <CITguy> ale1: I can't change the color of the font
[03:15] <osxdude> CITguy: right click the panel, choose Properities... go to Appearance tab then choose the color
[03:16] <osxdude> you can make it transparent too
[03:16] <zim__>  anyone able to help me with my cd problem?
[03:16] <bpa> whois ubuntu
[03:16] <LockesRabb> singlesun-- followed instructions, gunna try dvd now
[03:16] <LockesRabb> brb
[03:16] <ale1> @CITguy: sorry, don't know about the font off-hand and I'm running KDE atm
[03:16] <CITguy> I am only able to change the background color of the panel. I want to change the FONT color
[03:16] <ale1> does anyone know about iptables here?
[03:16] <singlesun> LockesRabb, cool.. let me know whats up
[03:16] <osxdude> zim__: don't as to ask a question...ask the question :)
[03:16] <yannick_1m> zim__: what's your problem ?
[03:16] <xMS_user> is sudo cp -rxvP /home/* /mnt/bkup/ good?
[03:16] <osxdude> *ask
[03:17] <xMS_user> i mean good for making backups
[03:17] <scorphus> good evening!
[03:17] <osxdude> CITguy: I do not thing you can ONLY change the font color
[03:17] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Shpook, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Multimedia
[03:17] <newbie> osxdude, Thanks for being patient with me. I am desperate to recover my files from that memory. I tried the '-R 1000' option, but still I cannot do anything. I already disconnected several times the memory, but each time I connect it back, there is the same problem
[03:17] <yannick_1m> xMS_user: tou can use -a /home/.
[03:17] <phuzion> anyone got any explanation why my flash is all messed up? it looks like this: http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8920/videocf6.png http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2218/youtubemainay3.png
[03:17] <osxdude> think = thing
[03:17] <zim__>  I did ask the question already.  I dont know how to read stuff off the cd and I need help (new, dont know what to do.) do I need to mount it?  how?
[03:17] <scorphus> what packages do I install to have a workable gnome?
[03:17] <yannick_1m> -a is a shortcut for all these option
[03:17] <Josie> Hey, can anyone help me? I can't get sound to forward in rdesktop 1.5
[03:17] <nemilar> Who was asking about the gnome weather applet + forecast??
[03:17] <yannick_1m> and with the final dot you won't miss any hidden file
[03:18] <newbie> osxdude, do you have any other suggestion that could help me copying my files and formatting the memory?
[03:18] <Shpook> Jewfro-Macabbi: Thank you.
[03:18] <danc3> scorphus: Gnome is already installed on Ubuntu
[03:18] <dsnyders> Hi all,  Can I use version control software to merge the contents of folders?
[03:18] <Jewfro-Macabbi> scorphus, gnome-desktop-environment
[03:18] <box_> where do u get complete system themes for ubuntu ?
[03:18] <osxdude> newbie: try this command instead: << sudo chown -R <username>:<username> /media/<flash drive name> >>
[03:18] <wease|> synaptic
[03:18] <Jewfro-Macabbi> box_, get the gnome-art package
[03:18] <alexrudd> @scrophus: why not just install ubuntu-desktop and remove anything you don't want?
[03:18] <newbie> osxdude, ok
[03:18] <yannick_1m> zim__: usally the CD shoudl have benn mount automatically
[03:19] <scorphus> danc3: sorry, I should have mentioned this is a Ubuntu server installation. A very basic installed on Xen 3
[03:19] <wease|> synaptic houses all DMs
[03:19] <box_> tnx
[03:19] <alexrudd> @zim: what happens if you eject and close it again?
[03:19] <scorphus> Jewfro-Macabbi: thanks, let me try it
[03:19] <CITguy> scorphus: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:19] <osxdude> zim__: the CD should mount when you put it in (by default). You may have to open a nautilus window and click "CD Drive"
[03:19] <scorphus> CITguy: okay
[03:19] <LockesRabb> still didnt work
[03:19] <nemilar> Who was asking about the gnome weather applet + forecast??
[03:19] <LockesRabb> damn
[03:19] <zim__>  @alexrudd: nothing  @yannik:it doesnt or I would be fine.
[03:19] <LockesRabb> @singlesun -- dvd wont play
[03:20] <yannick_1m> zim__: ok. Try what other people have suggested
[03:20] <Kles> errr
[03:20] <LockesRabb> @singlesun, i opened it in totem, it plays, but there's blank screen, i tried opening it in gxine, but gxine errored out saying it couldnt read stream
[03:20] <xMS_user> sudo cp -rxvPa
[03:20] <singlesun> LockesRabb, did dvd ever play for you in ubuntu?
[03:20] <dsnyders> LockesRabb, I've never had problems with mplayer
[03:21] <Kles> I'm using Ubuntu since my XP installation went off the deep end and I can't find my XP disc
[03:21] <LockesRabb> no, this is my first time enabling dvd playback
[03:21] <Kles> I can't boot it without safe graphics
[03:21] <zim__>  @osxdude:I am running server edition, I have only command line
[03:21] <yannick_1m> xMS_user: no no. simply cp -a is enough
[03:21] <xMS_user> cool yannick_
[03:21] <alexrudd> @zim: What about mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom?
[03:21] <singlesun> LockesRabb, wait a second.... you said it plays but there is a blank screen? so you hear sounds but there is a blank screen?
[03:21] <Kles> How would I go about getting myself some graphics drivers for this?
[03:21] <Kles> Or some audio?
[03:21] <scorphus> CITguy: aptitude tells me "...439 newly installed..." and "...Need to get 404MB/406MB of archives....". Should I proceed?
[03:21] <osxdude> zim__: Then here ya go: << sudo mount /dev/cdrom >>
[03:21] <CITguy> scorphus: yes
[03:21] <Kles> I'm rather uneducated about this OS :)
[03:21] <osxdude> zim__: that should mount it
[03:21] <scorphus> CITguy: thank you
[03:22] <osxdude> zim__ oh yea and append a mount point to that
[03:22] <LockesRabb> @singlesun, i'm deaf, so i don't know if it's emitting any sounds ;p
[03:22] <CITguy> you're welcome
[03:22] <spithra> how do u start gnome from command prompt
[03:22] <CITguy> spithra: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[03:22] <Starnestommy> spithra: gnome-session?
[03:22] <CITguy> spithra: or just "startx"
[03:22] <osxdude> LockesRabb: seriously?
[03:22] <LockesRabb> osx, yes
[03:22] <spithra> startx starts kde
[03:22] <box_> after installing gnome-art where do u change options @ ?
[03:23] <osxdude> i've never met a deaf dude before :D
[03:23] <newbie> osxdude, I think I know why I could not copy my files. I was selecting all of the files including the corrupted files. Now I only selected the files that are ok, and it seems to be copying it.
[03:23] <jen2> perhaps it would be better to ask this here than in the kde-specific chan, since it's more generalized: does gutsy (whether in main, universe, etc) have a driver in the repos that supports the via chrome9 k8m890's 3d features?
[03:23] <alexrudd> @scorphus: I'm not sure how aptitude is compared to synaptic, but you might want to go through and remove things you definitely don't want, like "gnome-pilot"
[03:23] <LockesRabb> @singlesun, let me try putting in a different dvd and see if its the same
[03:23] <LockesRabb> osx-- you still havent-- we didnt meet in person yet ;p
[03:23] <zim__>  alexrudd  thanks, worked, didnt know what the name to mount it was (ive mounted usb, but it took a while to figure out what to call that too)
[03:23] <Jewfro-Macabbi> box_, it's under system - preferences - art manager
[03:23] <osxdude> newbie: Glad sorted it ouy
[03:23] <zim__>  @ all who tried ot help me, thanks
[03:23] <osxdude> *out
[03:23] <singlesun> LockesRabb, ummm.... ok.. if you are being serious... try another dvd i guess
[03:23] <box_> tnx again
[03:23] <newbie> osxdude, Yeeeiii I could recover some files, thank you very much
[03:23] <Mr__> holy cow did anyone ever see this thing it must be brand new or something
[03:23] <scorphus> alexrudd: hmm... let me take a look to this synaptic. thanks
[03:23] <Jewsus> Does ubuntu have another browser besides firefox?
[03:23] <alexrudd> @zim: for future reference, you can check out /etc/fstab  for automatically configured mount points
[03:24] <jen2> epiphany is available
[03:24] <LockesRabb> @singlesun, of course, why would i joke about the dvd not workin?
[03:24] <singlesun> LockesRabb, i new to ubuntu as well... but i know that when i didnt have the right codecs sometimes vids would play the sound and not the actual video
[03:24] <osxdude> zim__ did you try << sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0 >>
[03:24] <wease|> aptitude has moo powers
[03:24] <nemilar> Jewsus: you can use Opera if you want
[03:24] <jen2> you can also check out opera
[03:24] <wease|> thats the difference
[03:24] <singlesun> LockesRabb, i meant about beign def
[03:24] <LockesRabb> hmmm
[03:24] <Kitar|st> http://wiresmash.com/funny/this-is-sparta/ <---- HAHA!!!!!
[03:24] <Kitar|st> lool
[03:24] <nemilar> Jewsus: there's also a bunch of Gecko-based browsers
[03:24] <Mr__> oops thought i said it
[03:24] <Mr__> lol
[03:24] <troms> what the default max limit of half-open connections in Ubuntu? or does it even work like that/
[03:24] <Jewsus> hmm
[03:24] <alexrudd> @osxdude: yeah, he said that worked when I suggested it
[03:24] <Jewfro-Macabbi> box_, gnome art just downloads/installs different themes/icons/windows borders for you - you can then use them via system - preferences - appearance
[03:24] <newbie> osxdude, one last question. I have never formated a flash drive from the command line before. Do you know how can I do it? Is there any option that erases EVERYTHING, not only the boot sector?
[03:24] <Mr__> i just stumbled on this ourbuntu.com thing must be in the works or something
[03:24] <speeddemon8803> sudo aptitude moo | sudo aptitude -v moo
[03:24] <LockesRabb> @singlesun -- i'd much rather NOT be deaf, i hate it, and i prefer not to mention it, i wouldn't have mentioned it if u hadnt asked me if i could hear it
[03:24] <speeddemon8803> ;)
[03:24] <wease|> speed, exactly
[03:24] <alexrudd> does anyone know about iptables?
[03:24] <jen2> troms: i don't even think that applies, as ubuntu has an *intelligently designed* tcp/ip stack
[03:24] <zim__>  alexrudd:i dont think it was autoconfig because it didnt spin the disk or give me anyoutputs when I put it in.  for the usb that I had to manually mount (due to some windows weirdness in it) it at least popped up the init lines and the device gave indications it was connected
[03:24] <CITguy> spithra: This may sound stupid, but do you have Gnome installed?
[03:25] <Mr__> anyone know of it?
[03:25] <speeddemon8803> super cow powers baby :)
[03:25] <dsnyders> LockesRabb, have you tried mplayer.  I find it works much better than totem.
[03:25] <wease|> \m/
[03:25] <wease|> gotta love the power
[03:25] <singlesun> LockesRabb, give the other dvd a shot... and see.... if not... i really cant help much more....... i suggested all that i could... but these guys are pretty savvy and can prolly help ya fix it
[03:25] <osxdude> newbie: unfortunatley I don't know... might have to look it up.
[03:25] <troms> jen2: so I don't have to worry about slow browsing speeds when bittorrent is on?
[03:25] <xMS_user> yannick_1m: sudo -a /home/* /mnt/bk ?
[03:25] <hans_> Please, could someone refer me to a guide on optimizing ktorrent?
[03:25] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alexrudd, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo?highlight=%28ip%29%7C%28tables%29
[03:25] <Mr__> hmmm
[03:25] <speeddemon8803> doesnt the moo power go to the v6 power or so?
[03:26] <LockesRabb> well well well
[03:26] <wease|> speed, too bad they dont offer that in the newer versions *frowns*
[03:26] <LockesRabb> what do i know
[03:26] <yannick_1m> xMS_user: sudo cp -av /home/. /mnt/bk
[03:26] <newbie> osxdude, all right you already helped me a lot, and saved me from loosing important data. Damn Windows....    Thank you very much!
[03:26] <LockesRabb> mplayer was able to play the Dvd
[03:26] <tumbleweed05> hey people.
[03:26] <speeddemon8803> newer versions?
[03:26] <troms> hans_: ktorrent is a lot like utorrent, check torrentfreak or the utorrent forums
[03:26] <yannick_1m> (-v so you can see what's goig on :)
[03:26] <singlesun> LockesRabb, lol go figure... lol
[03:26] <tumbleweed05> is utorrent available for ubuntu?
[03:26] <wease|> i havent had the cows on my screen since 6.06
[03:26] <arkanes> troms: bittorrent, left to its own devices, will saturate your bandwidth and it certainly can affect your browsing experience
[03:26] <LockesRabb> thanks dsynders & singlesun
[03:26] <miles_> My soundcard wont work... checked alsamixer and im looking for the soundcard but I dont know my model of motherboard or sound card...
[03:26] <speeddemon8803> it works with ubuntu 7.10's aptitude
[03:26] <nemilar> tumbleweed05: no, it's a windows application
[03:26] <miles_> I dont know what to do
[03:26] <nemilar> tumbleweed05: for something similar, check out deluge
[03:26] <singlesun> LockesRabb, wouldnt have played without those CSS libraries though ;)
[03:27] <tumbleweed05> thanks nemilar
[03:27] <LockesRabb> @singlesun, haha yes
[03:27] <tumbleweed05> anyone know of a good bit torrent client for ubuntu?
[03:27] <speeddemon8803> i dunno what your doing there weasel but it works for me :)
[03:27] <LockesRabb> @singlesun i'm checkin to see if mplayer supports subtitles
[03:27] <wease|> haha
[03:27] <Jewfro-Macabbi> tumbleweed05, azureus
[03:27] <troms> arkanes: in windows, just having bittorrent on with a few dls is enough to cripple your browsing speeds
[03:27] <nemilar> !best | tumbleweed05
[03:27] <ubotu> tumbleweed05: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[03:27] <rsk> tumbleweed05: azureus for gui and rtorrent for consile
[03:27] <wease|> it just says super cow powers arent available with my copy
[03:27] <osxdude> you are welcome newbie :) :) :D
[03:27] <yannick_1m> tumbleweed05: deluge, transmission, if you wan someting light
[03:27] <xMS_user> thanks yannick_1m
[03:27] <Guest_548> hey can someone please help me with an OS installation? having some issues..
[03:27] <speeddemon8803> weird
[03:27] <singlesun> LockesRabb, hmm... that i do not know.. i never tried that
[03:27] <nemilar> there's got to be 500 BT apps for linux
[03:27] <dsnyders> LockesRabb, I'm pretty sure it does.  It is quite flexible
[03:27] <yannick_1m> xMS_user: you're welcom :)
[03:27] <nemilar> !ask > Guest_548
[03:27] <newbie> could somebody tell me how can I format a usb drive from the command prompt? I need to erase EVERYTHING, not only the boot sector. There are some corrupted files that seem to not move/erase, so I need to destroy anything on that usb and make it usable again
[03:27] <tumbleweed05> alright. transmission. i use that for my mac mini.
[03:27] <tumbleweed05> thanks people.
[03:28] <singlesun> LockesRabb, its been a very long time since i watched any movies... lol
[03:28] <neuber> Can anyone help me install nvidia drivers on a server kernel?
[03:28] <miles_> Help for miles?
[03:28] <arkanes> troms: No, windows is capable of handling the load without much trouble. The problems are likely related to your upstream provider or your network, and won't neccesarily go away on ubuntu
[03:28] <miles_> Help for miles/
[03:28] <nemilar> neuber: why would you want nvidea drivers on a server?
[03:28] <CITguy> newbie: look for a tutorial for fdisk
[03:28] <LockesRabb> cool, subtitles work
[03:28] <neuber> nemilar i'm only using the server headers because i need the extended memory support
[03:29] <LockesRabb> interesting
[03:29] <singlesun> LockesRabb, right on ;)
[03:29] <nemilar> neuber: tru
[03:29] <LockesRabb> every time i try to change to english subtitle, or skip to another chapter in dvd
[03:29] <arkanes> troms: a different BT client may have an effect
[03:29] <yannick_1m> miles_: what's your problem ?
[03:29] <LockesRabb> mplayer emits an error
[03:29] <troms> arkanes: I had to us LvlLord's EventID tcpip patcher in XP and sucurevista's tcpip patch in vista
[03:29] <LockesRabb> says "gnome_screen_saver_control()"
[03:29] <singlesun> LockesRabb, it says... watch the whole thing from beginning to end... lol
[03:29] <neuber> nemilar: i have a readme on how to do it but its really not helping
[03:29] <troms> i havent had any problems, just wondering if I would run into any
[03:30]  * wease| plays minesweeper in aptitude
[03:30] <singlesun> LockesRabb, really i have no clue about that
[03:30] <nemilar> neuber: can't help you, Intel video here
[03:30] <miles_> yannick_lm: I cant get my sound to work. I have an SiS card but I dont know the model. Its on a foxconn. Ive tried alsa mixer and ive checked to see if it is recognized and it is...
[03:30] <scorphus> alexrudd and CITguy: I think I should show you a screenshot of what I get, I'm sure you'll guide me to fix this. I have no window border, title and no window list on the bottom panel: http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/4/1/30/f_ubuntugutsym_42e884a.png
[03:30] <tumbleweed05> i didn't know transmission was packaged with ubuntu.
[03:30] <tumbleweed05> nice.
[03:31] <tumbleweed05> alright but i'm out. thanks everyone.
[03:31] <arkanes> troms: if those patches are supposed to remove the connection throttling, that's a consequence of poorly behaved BT clients, not windows per se
[03:31] <scorphus> I just want to fix that... I don't really need all those hundred applications
[03:31] <yannick_1m> miles_: I'm sorry, I don't know much about sound cards.
[03:31] <CITguy> scorphus: try "metacity --replace"
[03:31] <miles_> yannick_lm: thanks anyway
[03:31] <Kles> how do I run something as root?
[03:31] <scorphus> CITguy: ok
[03:31] <wease|> that was fun
[03:31] <neuber> kles: su root
[03:31] <Jewsus> A website says an applet is supposed to pop-up in another window, but it isn't working in firefox
[03:31] <Jewfro-Macabbi> scorphus, you might try the aptitude search tool - I think the base package is called gnome-core but search fore gnome and it will list everything
[03:31] <Kles> thanks
[03:32] <Jewsus> but it doesn't show the pop-up blocker thing
[03:32] <Kles> uhhh
[03:32] <scorphus> CITguy: metacity --replace fixed it
[03:32] <troms> arkanes: I use utorrent, and max that sucker out, if i use the default amount in vista, I get decent bt speeds, but with the patch i get awesome bt speeds and great speeds everywhere else
[03:32] <scorphus> Jewfro-Macabbi: let me try it
[03:32] <Kles> it asks as a password - what do I put in? I don't have a password
[03:32] <scorphus> thanks
[03:32] <CITguy> Jewsus: do you see a lightbulb on the bottom right hand side of the window?
[03:32] <Guest_548> Can someone please help? After my first successful installation of Gutsy, my OS won't boot.. What could I have done wrong?
[03:32] <singlesun> anyone really bored??.... check this out... telnet this.... or better yet... just put this in your terminal     "telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl"
[03:32] <CITguy> scorphus: you're welcome
[03:32] <Jewsus> CITguy, non
[03:32] <Jewsus> no*
[03:32] <neuber> kles i think you need to set one first...
[03:32] <yannick_1m> Kles: try sudo su - aand put your awn pass
[03:32] <Jordan_U> Guest_548, What happens when you turn the computer on?
[03:33] <Pici> !sudo | Kles
[03:33] <ubotu> Kles: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[03:33] <yannick_1m> * own pass
[03:33] <singlesun> Carbonflux, you still there?
[03:33] <arkanes> troms: If you're the sort of person to whom BT traffic is important enough that you'll install binary patches to your tcp stack just to try to get faster downloads, well more power to you
[03:33] <CITguy> Jewsus: what version of Ubuntu and Firefox are you using?
[03:33] <jsoftw> How do i get an xorg.conf ?
[03:33] <Guest_548> It freezes at the initial Ubuntu screen with the orange progress bar. Freezes about 10% of the way.
[03:33] <Jewsus> ubunty 7.10 gutsy, firefox version <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:33] <troms> arkanes: lol, i live off bt
[03:33] <arkanes> troms: there's nothing that patching the stack does that fixing the BT clients won't do. BT clients are not well known for being reliable and well behaved network applications
[03:33] <neuber> anyway... anyone want to help me install nvid drivers on server kernel?
[03:34] <Jordan_U> jsoftw, You most likely already have one... What are you trying to do?
[03:34] <Jewsus> ubuntu*
[03:34] <CITguy> Guest_548: when that loading screen shows up press ALT+F1 to see what your machine is doing
[03:34] <Kles> urk
[03:34] <Kles> what is a "X server"
[03:34] <Jordan_U> neuber, Why are you using the server kernel?
[03:34] <alex_rudd> ARGH I hate university network.  (1) It decimates network-manager  (2)It blocks IRC!
[03:34] <Guest_548> I've tried the Live CD and the alternate CD for Gutsy and the alternate CD for Fiesty.
[03:34] <jsoftw> Jordan_U: i dont have one.
[03:34] <dsnyders> Hi all!  I want to merge the contents of some directories.  Would a version control software be of any use?
[03:34] <neuber> jordan_u for the extended memory support
[03:34] <alex_rudd> anyway, sorry for vent.   Anyone know iptables?
[03:34] <Jewfro-Macabbi> neuber, perhaps module-assistant?
[03:34] <jsoftw> Jordan_U: im trying to get one. Then I will disable Composite things for nvidia.
[03:34] <Guest_548> Let me try that, hold on.
[03:35] <CITguy> Kles: X server is the program that allows you to have a desktop, windows and the sort
[03:35] <troms> arkanes: bittorrent is built to misbehave, no one thought you've dling chucks from thousands of connections at once
[03:35] <arkanes> Kles: the X server is the application that provides the graphical interface for your ubuntu installation
[03:35] <Kles> oh yuck
[03:35] <jsoftw> Unless its somewhere other than /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then I dont have one.
[03:35] <FrankieB333> I need help with my screen resolution and xserver!!
[03:35] <alex_rudd> @dsnydners: have you looked into unison?
[03:35] <Kles> I can't install these drivers when it's running
[03:35] <arkanes> troms: untrue, but there's not really anything more to say.
[03:35] <neuber> jewfro-macabbi, i know nothing of module assistant...
[03:35] <peterpants> I'm trying to run a C program i wrote using gcc, but everytime i run ./a.out scanf doesn't seem to pick up the input and the variable is the same.., any ideas?
[03:35] <Jewsus> CITguy, I'm using ubuntu 7.10 gutsy, and firefox version <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:35] <Jordan_U> neuber, You have 4+ GIG of RAM on a 32 bit machine?
[03:35] <miles_> Is it necessary to restart to hear sound/
[03:35] <CITguy> Jewsus: ok, gimme a sec
[03:35] <Guest_548> alt f1 isnt doing anything, screen is still frozen
[03:35] <Jewsus> ok
[03:35] <FrankieB333> I need help with my screen resolution and xserver!!
[03:35] <neuber> jordan_u, correct
[03:35] <jsoftw> peterpants: gcc foo.c -o myapp
[03:35] <LockesRabb> okay
[03:35] <jsoftw> ./myapp
[03:36] <Jewfro-Macabbi> neuber, I'm looking for you - it's a way to install graphics drivers
[03:36] <troms> arkanes: im not gonna worry about it, just something from windows I expected to find in ubuntu and pleasenlt suprised that I havent
[03:36] <LockesRabb> i solved the gnome_screensaver_control() error in mplayer
[03:36] <FrankieB333> how?
[03:36] <jsoftw> Cmon people. How do I dump xorg's config.
[03:36] <LockesRabb> all i had to do was go in preferences and uncheck the "stop xscreensaver" option
[03:36] <Jordan_U> neuber, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[03:36] <LockesRabb> that solved it
[03:36] <FrankieB333> nice
[03:36] <jsoftw> Im running with no xorg.conf right now, how do I dump what xorg is currently running as.
[03:36] <peterpants> jsoftw: i tried that but my scanf still isn't setting the variable :(
[03:36] <FrankieB333> but i still need help with my xorg and what not
[03:36] <CITguy> Jewsus: does the applet work fine otherwise?
[03:36] <jsoftw> then its your code
[03:37] <stelt> workaround for broken partitioner ?
[03:37] <alex_rudd> @jsoftw dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  would do it, I think.   I don't know enough about it to recommend it, though
[03:37] <Jewsus> There is no applet, it's supposed to open another window and load in that window
[03:37] <Guest_548> if i turn it off and the progress bar first starts running and actually moving, when i press alt f1 it starts scrolling, numbers in  the front of the message increasing but cant read what it says, scrolling very fast
[03:37] <Kles> hmmm, I'm not likely to find sound drivers for my built in audio :/
[03:37] <troms> I need to format an SD card, I have gparted and the the device automounts, but gparted can't find it
[03:37] <dsnyders> alex_rudd, I don't want to synchronize the directories.  I want to eliminate duplicate files.
[03:37] <FrankieB333> ive been doing dpkg-reconfigure for the past half hour
[03:37] <CITguy> Jewsus: do you have javascript enabled?
[03:37] <jsoftw> alex_rudd: thanks
[03:37] <Jewsus> um but applets work in other pages, when they don't load in separate windows
[03:37] <FrankieB333> and it hasn't been giving me the settings i want
[03:37] <Jewsus> yes javascript is enabled
[03:37] <arkanes> jsoftw: I don't think you can. Why did you delete your xorg.conf?
[03:37] <yannick_1m> jsoftw or simply sydi dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core
[03:37] <Jordan_U> jsoftw, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" but why don't you have an xorg.conf
[03:37] <alex_rudd> @dsnyders: you can merge dupes, or copy one to the other.  Then delete the extra directory
[03:37] <yannick_1m> you'll have to answer less questions
[03:37] <CITguy> Jewsus: could you post the link so I can try?
[03:38] <Jewsus> okay, http://optimallearning.org/cb/indexo.html
[03:38] <scorphus> CITguy: :/ everytime I login I have to do metacity --replace, what am I still missing?
[03:38] <alex_rudd> iptables help anyone?
[03:38] <FrankieB333> what is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core supposed to do?
[03:38] <Jordan_U> scorphus, System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[03:38] <jsoftw> arkanes: I did not delete it.
[03:38] <scorphus> ok
[03:38] <arkanes> jsoftw: then where did it go?
[03:38] <jsoftw> I added a new monitor, and its not working properly with my origional xorg.conf
[03:38] <jsoftw> ffs.
[03:39] <jsoftw> Stop trying to sidetrack the issue.
[03:39] <dsnyders> alex_rudd, I'll take a closer look at unison, then.
[03:39] <dsnyders> alex_rudd, What sort of help do you need with iptables?
[03:39] <jsoftw> xorg runs fine right now, _except_ that I want to disable one option
[03:39] <jsoftw> for which afaik I need an xorg.conf for.
[03:39] <nemilar> pppoe_dude: nice site man, I'm at www.techthrob.com
[03:39] <CITguy> Jewsus: It's not working for me either. I suspect the applet isn't working properly.
[03:39] <arkanes> if X is running, then it had a (working) xorg.conf when it started
[03:39] <arkanes> if that xorg.conf is no longer present, you did something to change it
[03:40] <arkanes> undo whatever you did
[03:40] <Jewsus> CITguy, I remember the applet used to work fine when I was running windows
[03:40] <jack-desktop> does anyone live where it's raining right now?
[03:40] <alex_rudd> @dsndyers.  I have to flush them all to connect to anything.  http://pastebin.com/d24b6591a
[03:40] <EADG> Snow is rain right?
[03:40] <jack-desktop> yes
[03:40] <CITguy> Jewsus: so it's worked in windows but not in Ubuntu?
[03:40] <Jewsus> yes
[03:40] <EADG> ... it's raining then :)
[03:40] <CITguy> Jewsus: were you using firefox with windows?
[03:40] <dsnyders> EADG, snow is not rain.  You don't have to shovel it.
[03:40] <jsoftw> arkanes: WRONG.
[03:40] <Jewfro-Macabbi> neuber, "module-assistant" is a package in universe, info on it on this page: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers?highlight=%28nvidia%29#Libraries
[03:40] <RB2> By any chance, does anyone know (or have a link to any information) what the performance difference under compiz is between the NVidia Quadro NVS 140M and the Quadro FX 570M?
[03:40] <thefool_> anyone know of a way to log EVERYTHING I type in a command line? Including when I am inside an interpreter or something?
[03:40] <Jewsus> CITguy, yes, I think so
[03:41] <jsoftw> arkanes: dude, xorg can run without an xorg.conf
[03:41] <alex_rudd> oh, crap I mistyped the pastebin link :(
[03:41] <bugs-bunny> list
[03:41] <daniele851> hey
[03:41] <dsnyders> EADG, shovel rain that is.
[03:41] <EADG> Snow = no mosquitos.
[03:41] <Pici> !offtopic | EADG
[03:41] <scorphus> Jordan_U: gnome-themes is missing I'm installing it
[03:41] <ubotu> EADG: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:41] <jsoftw> Unless there is some magical xorg.conf hiding somewhere other than /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then my xorg is RUNNING WITHOUT AN XORG.CONF
[03:41] <neuber> jewfro-macabbi THANKS!
[03:41] <daniele851> hi alls
[03:41] <jsoftw> and its working sweet, except for one tiny thing.
[03:41] <bugs-bunny> hola amigos
[03:41] <arkanes> there's lots of other places it can get one from
[03:41] <daniele851> hola
[03:41] <arkanes> how did you start X?
[03:41] <jsoftw> *sigh*
[03:41] <jsoftw> normal login screen.
[03:41] <Jordan_U> scorphus, I only meant to go there to turn off desktop effecs ( compiz )
[03:41] <sarixe> hi, i'm getting an md5sum mismatch trying to install flashplugin-nonfree.  any help on that?
[03:42] <Pici> !flashissue | sarixe
[03:42] <arkanes> then it used the one in /etc/X11
[03:42] <dsnyders> alex_rudd, The pastebin is empty.
[03:42]  * Pici pokes the bot
[03:42] <ubotu> sarixe: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[03:42] <jsoftw> arkanes: no it did NOT.
[03:42] <sarixe> thanks
[03:42] <CITguy> Jewsus: I'm sorry, from all of the information I'm getting, it seems to be a problem with the way the applet is coded.
[03:42] <arkanes> then it's not a "normal login screen"
[03:42] <jsoftw> arkanes: Look dude.
[03:42] <jsoftw> arkanes: you are wrong.
[03:42] <Jewsus> hmm, okay
[03:42] <CITguy> Jewsus: I would contact the developer to see if they have a solution.
[03:42] <alex_rudd> @dsnyders: Yes, I had to copy it to paper from Ubuntu, and I'm on windows now :(
[03:42] <jsoftw> arkanes: its running _without_ an xorg.conf right now, mmm kay?
[03:42] <navetz> can somone tell me how I can reallocate the amount of space on my virtual XP partition in vmware-server
[03:42] <arkanes> no it isn't
[03:42] <jack-desktop> EADG, did you get the messages i sent you?
[03:42] <Ububegin> how can i increase my workspaces...
[03:43] <Jewsus> Thanks anyway CITguy
[03:43] <arkanes> or rather, it didn't start that way
[03:43] <jsoftw> arkanes: ls: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[03:43] <arkanes> it certainly didn't from a "normal" login screen
[03:43] <jsoftw> dude, its from that ubuntu login screen, you know, that normal one.
[03:43] <alex_rudd> restart time yay
[03:43] <jsoftw> arkanes: stop talking rubbish, the file is _NOT_ there.
[03:43] <CITguy> Jewsus: For what it's worth, you're welcome.
[03:43] <Guest_548> So.. Would anyone be able to help?
[03:43] <tickler> sup
[03:43] <bugs-bunny> oh oh
[03:43] <arkanes> that doesn't mean it *wasn't* there
[03:44] <jsoftw> arkanes: dude, I can restart the box and it will behave just the same.
[03:44] <tickler> hello
[03:44] <EADG> jack-desktop: yes, I see it now. Medicine Hat Alberta.
[03:44] <jsoftw> arkanes: stop trying to tell me what is happening on my own box
[03:44] <arkanes> jsoftw: then you or someone else has done something unusual to your system
[03:44] <arkanes> jsoftw: do you know what it is?
[03:44] <tickler> running studio ubuntu
[03:44] <jsoftw> arkanes: you _do_ know that xorg can run happy _WITHOUT_ an xorg.conf, dont you?
[03:44] <jdh6403> ooooo nerd fight
[03:44] <arkanes> no, it can't
[03:44] <jsoftw> arkanes: bollocks.
[03:44] <arkanes> you know that it doesn't have to be named that, right?
[03:44] <jsoftw> *sigh*
[03:44] <troms> brb, going into ubuntu
[03:44] <Pici> jsoftw, arkanes: stop bickering.
[03:45] <dsnyders> alex_rudd, Maybe it's for the best.  I'm  a novice at iptables, but I'm willing to take a look
[03:45] <badlinker> test
[03:45] <arkanes> but it is by default, and if that's not the one it's using, then you are *not* runnig a "normal" ubuntu
[03:45] <saturdayplace> Just installed gutsy.  Said I had something like 185 updates to install.  So I go for it.  They all download fine, but when the install begins, it fails real fast with the following error:
[03:45] <saturdayplace> An error occurred.  The following details are provided.
[03:45] <saturdayplace> e:/var/cache/apt/archives/.ibc6_2.6.1-1ubuntu10_i386.deb: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted archive
[03:45] <jsoftw> arkanes: oh noes. im not running a normal ubuntu.
[03:45] <jsoftw> Anyway.
[03:45] <jack-desktop> where is that EADG
[03:45] <Pici> jsoftw: What version of Ubuntu are you running anyway?
[03:45] <saturdayplace> linix newb.  Any ideas.
[03:45] <jdh6403> saturdayplace: go to ubuntu with that
[03:45] <jsoftw> Pici: erm... 7.10
[03:45] <arkanes> if you're not running a normal ubuntu, you should know enough about what you did to know what you did to X
[03:46] <saturdayplace> jdh6403: isn't that this?
[03:46] <jsoftw> arkanes: its a single file man. stop being a dork.
[03:46] <arkanes> maube you're running XFree86 instead
[03:46] <jdh6403> no  go here #ubuntu
[03:46] <EADG> jack-desktop: Canada. I forget the airport XXX for here.
[03:46] <[eW]DaRk|ubuntu> why do i get this error after like 5 seconds when testing my mic? Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'
[03:46] <Pici> jdh6403: this is #ubuntu...
[03:46] <jdh6403> omg  lol
[03:46] <jdh6403> oops
[03:46] <jdh6403> im in the wroing channel
[03:46] <L3ttuc3> saturdayplace looks like a corrupted download...
[03:46] <jdh6403> sorry   ya youre in the right place
[03:47] <jsoftw> arkanes: maybe you should stop being an egg and realize that all that has changed, is A: New monitor, B: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_OLD
[03:47] <jdh6403> someone slap me
[03:47]  * saturdayplace slaps jdh6403
[03:47] <saturdayplace> :)
[03:47] <Pici> jdh6403: please stop with the name calling, I realize you're frustrated, but thats not called for.
[03:47] <Pici> jdh6403: er.. forget that.
[03:47] <Pici> jsoftw: ^^
[03:47] <jdh6403> lol
[03:48]  * jdh6403 huggles pici
[03:48] <saturdayplace> L3ttuc3: what should I do?  Try and re-download that specific package?
[03:48] <goodtimes> someone sent me their config file for their kernel but they compiled it as a 32 bit kernel, what settings do I need to change to make this a 64 bit kernel?
[03:48] <arkanes> jsoftw: if your X configuration has changed, then you have a changed config file and you have restarted X to see it
[03:48] <jsoftw> arkanes: ahh uh
[03:48] <L3ttuc3> saturdayplace that would be an idea.
[03:48] <Guest_548> I'm trying to boot Feisty on a Dell Dimension 2350. I have Gutsy installed in it as well because I had the same problem with it. It freezes in the process of booting where the Ubuntu logo is and the orange progress bar appears. It hangs at around 10%. Pressing alt+F1 shows what it's doing, but all it shows is a series of numbers (going in order) and characters scrolling by really fast. Something like this "[421.453423]  [<c01gf75fhf>]
[03:48] <jsoftw> arkanes: actually I moved the config file.
[03:48] <arkanes> okay
[03:48] <jsoftw> arkanes: so there is no xorg.conf anymore.
[03:48] <arkanes> that's not the same thing
[03:48] <jsoftw> As mentioned above.
[03:48] <arkanes> jsoftw: have you restarted X since then?
[03:49] <jsoftw> yes, as I already mentioned.
[03:49] <arkanes> I don't believe you
[03:49] <jsoftw> Thats your problem, _not_ mine.
[03:49] <mynyml> is there an official fix for the flash problem?
[03:49] <Pici> jsoftw: your last /var/log/Xorg.0.log should show what config file its running out of.
[03:49] <mynyml> or a .deb package floating somewhere?
[03:49] <arkanes> possibly failsafe X saved you?
[03:49] <[eW]DaRk|ubuntu> any ideas why i get this error when testing my mic?   Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'
[03:49] <Pici> !flashissues > mynyml (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[03:49] <arkanes> it's never worked here, I don't know where it writes its config
[03:50] <jsoftw> arkanes: failsafe X does not run at 1680x1050
[03:50] <alex_r> @dyn-something :http://pastebin.com/m4b0442b4
[03:50] <Jangari> anyone knwo if sox can concatenate more than 32 input files at once?
[03:50] <bra1> hello?
[03:50] <jsoftw> arkanes:  (EE) Unable to locate/open config file
[03:50] <jsoftw> arkanes: its _not_ using a config file.
[03:50] <lanzelloth_> mynyml: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=53648&stc=1&d=1198033466
[03:50] <Jangari> know*
[03:50] <jsoftw> arkanes: how many times to I have to tell you.
[03:50] <sapperjanko1> hey all, im having some probs with samba and been able to write to it, i can log in as the user and see where i wanna b... this is what is in the config file... [MyFiles]
[03:50] <sapperjanko1> 	create mack = 0644
[03:50] <sapperjanko1> 	writeable = yes
[03:50] <sapperjanko1> 	path = /var/www
[03:50] <sapperjanko1> 	write list = travis,mark,@mark,@travis
[03:50] <FloodBot1> sapperjanko1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:50] <sapperjanko1> 	force group = mark
[03:51] <arkanes> then it's failsafe X
[03:51] <lanzelloth_> mynyml: fulll guide here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=661833
[03:51] <L3ttuc3> jsoftw  pastebin the whole thing?
[03:51] <jsoftw> L3ttuc3: ok.
[03:51] <sapperjanko1> OPPPS, i didnt know if ya copy paste it floods..... MY BAD
[03:51] <bra1> I'm having some problems installing ubuntu, and thought I might find help here
[03:51] <thefool_> so any way to log every key typed in a gnome session? I don't need it to be in any way hidden
[03:51] <mynyml> Pici: lanzelloth: thanks
[03:52] <lanzelloth_> np
[03:52] <Guest_548> Is there another Ubuntu IRC channel I can use that can offer help?
[03:52] <thefool_> bra1: what kind of problems are you having? What are you installing on?
[03:52] <hsystemxX> hi
[03:52] <alex_r> hmm, lost my contact: IPTABLES help anyone?
[03:52] <troms> How do I format an SD card? it's mounted (automounted) and I have gparted installed
[03:52] <professorchaos> irc://thelinuxlink.net/#techshow
[03:52] <bra1> I'm trying to instal 7.04 on a laptop, live runs fine, but partitioning isn't something I'm any good at
[03:53] <arkanes> bra1: are you trying to co-exist with an existing OS, or installing over the entire thing?
[03:53] <bra1> co-exist
[03:53] <arkanes> the installation wizard should have an option to resize your existing partition
[03:54] <Falstius> bra1: depending on your needs, wubi might be a good option
[03:54] <lanzelloth_> what do suspend and hybernate do?
[03:54] <thefool_> ok, well the first thing you need to do is backup your data as unless you have a second harddrive or an empty partiton you will need to resize the one you have. And resizing has a slight risk of totally fubaring everything
[03:54] <jsoftw> L3ttuc3: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54174/
[03:54] <sapperjanko1> hey all, im having some probs with samba and been able to write to it, i can log in as the user and see where i wanna b... this is what is in the config file... [MyFiles] - create mack = 0644 - writeable = yes - path = /var/www - write list = travis,mark,@mark,@travis - force group = mark - force user = mark - directory mode = 0755..... the - is for a new line
[03:54] <jsoftw> arkanes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/54174/
[03:54] <Falstius> bra1: it lets you install ubuntu to empty space on your windows partition so you don't need to resize or format partitions.
[03:55] <fluvvell> Guest_548: have you tried some different boot settings?
[03:55] <alex_r> @Falstius: that's a hack.  He's better off just sucking it up and learning partitions. :P
[03:55] <thefool_> lanzelloth_: suspend is like sleep, hibernate writes your ram to the hard drive and shuts the computer down. When you start it back up you are back where you were, unsaved documents open and all
[03:55] <Guest_548> Where can I select different boot settings?
[03:55] <Guest_548> Or how, rather?
[03:55] <sycho> Did they remove Gnome from the 7.10-i36-alternate install?
[03:55] <arkanes> jsoftw: it's the fancy new failsafe. Pretty impressive, too. The config it's using is inline in the logfile, you should be able to copy that to a new xorg.conf
[03:56] <Guest_548> I boot from HD if thats what you mean
[03:56] <Jordan_U> bra1, Ubuntu can partition your drive for you automagically ( have any important data backed up as with any time you mess with partitions )
[03:56] <Falstius> alex_r: it works well, is easy and is safe.  Perfect for experimenting.  Once he likes ubuntu, he can wipe his windows install and do it all fresh.  Traditional dual booting is archaic.
[03:57] <bra1> I've got important stuff backed up, working on it now
[03:57] <linchapulin> Anyone have experience with Wine(the emulator)? How do I increase the hard drive size?
[03:57] <lanzelloth_> thefool_: suspend/sleep = offs monitor, HDD?
[03:57] <fluvvell> Guest_548: there may be some specifics for your dell, but you could try noacpi in the boot string.  You need to edit the grub line
[03:57] <Jordan_U> Falstius, archaic is going a bit far
[03:57] <thefool_> lanzelloth_ yep
[03:57] <alex_r> @linchapulin: drive_c is just a folder under /home, so it should have as much as your home dir
[03:57] <lanzelloth_> thefool_: ok, thx
[03:57] <sapperjanko1> hey all, im having some probs with samba and been able to write to it, i can log in as the user and see where i wanna b... this is what is in the config file... [MyFiles] - create mack = 0644 - writeable = yes - path = /var/www - write list = travis,mark,@mark,@travis - force group = mark - force user = mark - directory mode = 0755..... the - is for a new line
[03:58] <Guest_548> fluvvel: So I enter the command line and type "noapci" ?
[03:58] <thefool_> Falstius: I think dual booting is necessary in many contexts
[03:58] <alex_dinamo> hello guys.. need some help here
[03:58] <alex_dinamo> I need to install SUN Java 1.4 on Feisty (7.10)
[03:59] <alex_dinamo> do you know where can I get the packages?
[03:59] <pawan> how to change wallpaper
[03:59] <Jordan_U> alex_dinamo, Any reason for 1.4 specifically?
[03:59] <alex_dinamo> the do not appear anymore on synaptic (what a pitty)
[03:59] <adelie43> when setting up wireless, any chance sudo modprobe ndiswrapper takes a REALLY long time?
[03:59] <linchapulin> alex_r:: I am trying to activate Photoshop, but when I go into the advance to use telephone activation it stops saying it is out of hard drive space?
[03:59] <alex_dinamo> compatibility
[03:59] <Jordan_U> !java | alex_dinamo
[03:59] <ubotu> alex_dinamo: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[03:59] <arkanes> pawan: right click on the desktop
[03:59] <alex_dinamo> here we use that as standard
[03:59] <fluvvell> Guest_548: first, what size hard drive do you have?
[03:59] <alex_dinamo> ubotu: I need 1.4 specifically
[03:59] <alex_r> linchapulin: which version of PS?  I don't they they play well with wine
[03:59] <alex_dinamo> !java
[03:59] <thefool_> so any way to log every key typed in a gnome session? I don't need it to be in any way hidden.
[04:00] <Guest_548> fluvvel: 30gb harddrive Gutsy install on one partition and a fiesty on another partition. Right now trying fiesty
[04:00] <sycho> Has gnome been removed from the alternate installs? The last few times I have loaded the alternate installs gnome has not been installed. This has happened with both i386 alternate and server alternate.  "In the BIOS setup in the menu "Intergrated Devices (LegacySelect Options)" I increased "Onboard Video Buffer" from 1 MB to 8 MB."
[04:01] <EADG> thefool_: install lkl
[04:01] <alex_dinamo> any ideas, anyone?
[04:01] <fluvvell> Guest_548: They also suggest that in the grub boot line using nosplash should help.
[04:02] <Jordan_U> fluvvell, Are you trying to get full resolution from an intel GPU?
[04:02] <Devinion> Really wish XChat wouldn't auto-connect me here... ah well.  I'll be here.
[04:02] <fluvvell> Jordan_U: his dell cant get past the splash screen.
[04:02] <thefool_> Jordan_U: mainly because I do a lot of experimenting in interpreters and would like to be able to grep through logs and see how I did this or that
[04:03] <L3ttuc3> Devinion you can turn that off. its probably selected by default in the networks list under the freenode network. or you put it there that way.
[04:03] <thefool_> EADG_: thanks compiling it now
[04:03] <Jordan_U> Devinion, That can be turned off, just connect directly to irc.freenode.net and stop auto joining to "ubuntu servers"
[04:03] <fluvvell> Guest_548: Also how much ram have you got?
[04:04] <Devinion> 'k. I'll set that here in a bit
[04:04] <Devinion> Thanks
[04:04] <Guest_548> fluvvell: 512
[04:04] <pawan> how to cahnge wallpaper
[04:04] <Jordan_U> thefool_, Ahh, if it's terminal based things use 'script'
[04:04] <fluvvell> Guest_548: ok
[04:04] <[eW]DaRk|ubuntu> how do i get alsamixer?
[04:05] <Jordan_U> [eW]DaRk|ubuntu, You shouldn't need to "get" it
[04:05] <tritium> [eW]DaRk|ubuntu: it's installed by default
[04:05] <thefool_> Jordan_U: does that work when you enter an interpreter, a text editor, switch shells etc? I didn't think so
[04:05] <Jordan_U> [eW]DaRk|ubuntu, just run "alsamixer" in a terminal
[04:05] <Swab> Halo
[04:05] <dsnyders> alex_r, I had a look at your pastebin, and there's no accept policy in the forward table.  Not sure if that means anything.
[04:05] <Jewfro-Macabbi> [eW]DaRk|ubuntu, you mean alsamixergui?
[04:06] <Jordan_U> thefool_, Yes, sort of but not really, and sort of but not really :)
[04:06] <[eW]DaRk|ubuntu> idk im trying to get my mic working in ubuntu 7.10
[04:06] <[eW]DaRk|ubuntu> its not working
[04:06] <alex_r> dsnyders: The funny thing is, I've never touched iptables at all.  It worked until about a week ago
[04:06] <Guest_548> fluvvel: when i type nosplash in the grub command line i get an unrecognized command message, am i supposed to put there
[04:06] <scriptdevil> is there a way of of getting an already installed ubuntu back to bare minimum
[04:07] <scriptdevil> i dislike gnome and want my fluxbox back... i dislike too much of bloat!!!
[04:07] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, what's the problem exactly?
[04:07] <Swab> xchat
[04:07] <Jordan_U> Guest_548, It's not a grub command, it's a kernel parameter.
[04:07] <Jordan_U> !boot | Guest_548
[04:07] <ubotu> Guest_548: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[04:07] <Johnny_5> how does one get networking 2 work in vmware in ubuntu?
[04:07] <dsnyders> alex_r, It would be generous calling me a novice at ipables, but if it's anything like cisco access lists...
[04:07] <alex_r> I can't access *anything* until I flush them all and set default to accept.  no webpages, im, ping
[04:08] <nivanson> Hi, how do I share my internet connection on local network? I am connected via wireless.
[04:08] <Jordan_U> Johnny_5, Add a virtual ethernet card
[04:08] <Johnny_5> k
[04:08] <alex_r> dsynders: All I know is what I read in the man page about how to flush the damned thing
[04:08] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, look here - this is how I set up my iptables - might help
[04:08] <Jewfro-Macabbi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing?highlight=%28network%29%7C%28gateway%29
[04:08] <Jordan_U> nivanson, Firestarter makes that fairly easy
[04:08] <Swab> xchat-gnome
[04:08] <Jewfro-Macabbi> nivansion - same answer for you - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing?highlight=%28network%29%7C%28gateway%29
[04:08] <nivanson> thanks!
[04:08] <scriptdevil> hmm
[04:09] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, firestarter is the graphical version for iptables by the way
[04:09] <sokna> hi
[04:09] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi: yeah, I installed that previously to mess around with connection sharing, but have since uninstalled
[04:09] <pawan> how to change wallpaper
[04:09] <pawan> can we use kde wallpapers in gnome
[04:10] <Swab> xchat-gnome
[04:10] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, there's a detailed entry on setting up ip tables in the ubuntu wiki
[04:10] <solexious> where do i find my sources file to remove lins to the install cd?
[04:10] <sapperjanko1> hey all, im having some probs with samba and been able to write to it, i can log in as the user and see where i wanna b... this is what is in the config file... [MyFiles] - create mack = 0644 - writeable = yes - path = /var/www - write list = travis,mark,@mark,@travis - force group = mark - force user = mark - directory mode = 0755..... the - is for a new line... any ideas whats goin on here
[04:10] <[eW]DaRk|ubuntu> why do i get this error when i test my mic? Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'
[04:10] <Swab> yo how do i use this thing eh?
[04:10] <speeddemon8803> pawan, sure
[04:10] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi: Your link would probably be helpful if I were trying to do that again, but I just want to access the internet in general
[04:10] <pawan> how
[04:10] <speeddemon8803> its just a picture, so nothing will mess up
[04:10] <xedbleh> Is there any ubuntu channel dedicated to programming here?
[04:10] <Flannel> solexious: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:10] <solexious> ty
[04:10] <DiceyDays> Can someone check something for me? Is www.opera.com down? Also www.userscripts.org.
[04:11] <Flannel> xedbleh: What sort of programming?
[04:11] <dsnyders> alex_r, the instructions Jewfro-Macabbi  pointed to looked similar to what I did long ago.
[04:11] <xopey> DiceyDays: no
[04:11] <fitztrev> Is it possible to have a file/folder open with only a single click?
[04:11] <xopey> DiceyDays: they're both up
[04:11] <xedbleh> DiceyDays: both sites are working
[04:11] <DiceyDays> weird. I can't access them
[04:11] <fluvvell> Guest_548: no, you need to interrupt the grub boot sequence and press e for edit, edit the boot line and add nosplash at the end of the line.
[04:11] <Jordan_U> xedbleh, 'programming' isn't really an Ubuntu specific topic, why would you want one ( hones question )
[04:12] <xopey> anyone have a resolution for sun-java6-plugin hanging in firefox?
[04:12] <xedbleh> oh I'm just looking for some help with bash related programming
[04:12] <ePax> pawalls: Download picture you want to use as desktop pic then double klick on it to open it... go to image and klick on set as deskotp background... or just rightclick mouse on desktop and klick on deskop wallpeper and pick one
[04:12] <fluvvell> Guest_548: by interrupt, I mean press escape before it auotboots.
[04:12] <Jordan_U> xedbleh, ##bash
[04:12] <pawan> how
[04:12] <xopey> eventually will load, but takes forever
[04:12] <DiceyDays> Have a guess why I can't connect?
[04:12] <fluvvell> :ur, auto boots.
[04:12] <ePax> sory wrong nick
[04:12] <pawan> what options to select to change wallpaper
[04:12] <ePax> pawan: : Download picture you want to use as desktop pic then double klick on it to open it... go to image and klick on set as deskotp background... or just rightclick mouse on desktop and klick on deskop wallpeper and pick one
[04:13] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi: Hmm, before I go digging through that is there a disadvantage to just flushing everything?
[04:13] <EADG> DiceyDays: can you ping this <IP_ADDRESS>?
[04:13] <alex_r> fitztrev: What file manager?  nautilus? konquereor? dolphin?
[04:13] <pawan> when i right click on desktop no menu appears
[04:13] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, I'm no expert - but as I understand it iptables flushes every reboot without a script/cron job anyway
[04:14] <bruce_> hello! does any one know of any program i can use to convert a chm file to jpeg???
[04:14] <fitztrev> alex_r: Nautilus and I just found the answer here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=575233  thanks anyway!
[04:14] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi: maybe you missed my pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m4b0442b4  <-- that's the default upon boot, and it doesn't allow me to connect to anything
[04:14] <ePax> pawan: Then to the other way i told you.
[04:15] <DiceyDays> EADG: No
[04:15] <sathehand> Anyone active in here?
[04:15] <DiceyDays> EADG: Destination Port Unreachable is the error I get
[04:15] <bruce_> hello! does any one know of any program i can use to convert a chm file to jpeg???
[04:15] <tritium> !repeat | bruce_
[04:15] <ubotu> bruce_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:15] <bruce_> hmmmm..
[04:16] <alex_r> linchapulin: This looks complicated, but it's the best I could find: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10018#c16
[04:16] <sathehand> I suppose my activity question has been essentially answered.
[04:16] <bruce_> active = no
[04:16] <EADG> DiceyDays: I takeit that you can't ping either <IP_ADDRESS> or www.opera.com from a diffrent machine that your using  now?... on irc?
[04:16] <bruce_> = i think..
[04:17] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, that's over my head - I followed instructions to get mine to work - I know priority of rules is paramount
[04:17] <DiceyDays> EADG: Nope
[04:17] <DiceyDays> EADG: Should I restart my router?
[04:17] <Guest_548> Fluvvel: adding nosplash only caused it to freeze where it used to keep scrolling and numbers were increasing ( when i press alt f1 at progress bar)
[04:18] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, as is whatever rule is first takes priority over all following rules
[04:18] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi - yeah, that much I figured out.  I just don't know what rule to add for normal operations
[04:18] <EADG> DiceyDays: Naw, just ask for a new ip addy. sudo dhclient "nic name"    eth1 for ex.
[04:18] <sathehand> Is it possible to resize the hard drive partition that contains Xubuntu?
[04:18] <alex_r> Thanks anyway, though.  I'm just going to try iptables-save after flushing everything
[04:19] <singlesun> does anyone know of a way to make just the terminal window semi transparent? so that you can see things underneath it?
[04:19] <pawan> hi
[04:19] <alex_r> singlesun: which terminal?
[04:19] <cgssa> hello
[04:19] <alex_r> singlesun: xterm, konsole, gnome-terminal?
[04:19] <jesica> anybody can say me why ubuntu-es doesnt work typing /join ubuntu-es
[04:19] <singlesun> alex_r, the main terminal window... bash. for Gnome
[04:19] <Guest_548> fluvvel: noapci does the same thing as nosplash
[04:19] <Pici> jesica: /j #ubuntu-es
[04:19] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, well - for example to allow all web traffic: sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
[04:19] <cgssa> someone said that they turned my computer intoo a bomb is that possible?
[04:19] <jesica> pici thank you
[04:19] <cgssa> hello
[04:20] <cgssa> someone said that they turned my computer intoo a bomb is that possible?
[04:20] <cgssa> wat do i do to remove ir?
[04:20] <cgssa> it
[04:20] <alex_r> cgssa: not unless you saw them with a barrel of dynomite
[04:20] <sathehand> cgssa: I don't see how they could do such a thing.
[04:20] <cgssa> uh they said they could
[04:20] <singlesun> anyone have any thoughts on how to make the Gnome terminal window semi transparent?
[04:20] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi: ok, I'll try that.  but what about icp?  that only seems to be tcp
[04:20] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, try adding this to the top of your iptables: sudo iptables -I INPUT 1 -i lo -j ACCEPT
[04:20] <cgssa> and they
[04:20] <jrib> cgssa: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[04:21] <j_humphrey> can I install ubuntu from a live usb instead of a live cd?
[04:21] <DiceyDays> EADG: "renewal in 42208 seconds" Thats good right?
[04:21] <alex_r> wtf am I talking about?  what is icp anyway?? lol, ignore me
[04:21] <jrib> !install > j_humphrey (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:21] <EADG> DiceyDays: Aye
[04:21] <cgssa> is ubuntu bomb proof?
[04:21] <Flannel> j_humphrey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[04:21] <speeddemon8803> yes
[04:21] <tritium> cgssa: please stop your nonsense
[04:21] <speeddemon8803> cgssa it is
[04:21] <j_humphrey> !install
[04:21] <jrib> cgssa: stop
[04:21] <EADG> DiceyDays: ping something :)
[04:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[04:21] <alex_r> go troll somewhere else
[04:21] <cgssa> im not joking go to #uncyclopedia they all ther
[04:21] <jrib> j_humphrey: I am pretty sure that mentions how to install from usb
[04:22] <tritium> cgssa: last warning
[04:22] <j_humphrey> thank you jrib
[04:22] <DiceyDays> EADG: Still getting the port unreachable. I guess it will work after all those seconds are up?
[04:22] <alex_r> jrib: are you the only ircop out of 1156 users?
[04:22] <adelie43> hmm... ok, I got my wireless card driver working... I think. the blue light comes on now... but the network manager still does not give me the option to search for wireless networks. help please :(
[04:22] <speeddemon8803> Cgssa.....your computer comes preconfigured with a firewall,...nevermind nobody minds telling people shut up but explaining about firewalls isnt cool? lol
[04:22] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, I'm just looking through the detailed wiki at possible problems - what opens what and what needs to be first.
[04:22] <tritium> alex_r: no, he's not
[04:22] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo?highlight=%28ip%29%7C%28tables%29
[04:22] <jrib> alex_r: no, there are many
[04:23] <j_humphrey> does 7.10 come with grub?
[04:23] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi: don't spend any more time on it, though I appreciate it
[04:23] <singlesun> is there anyway to make the Gnome terminal window semitransparent?
[04:23] <phuzion> j_humphrey, yes
[04:23] <Kalir> Hey, did someone named fire23 come in here?
[04:23] <enfo> i think so
[04:23] <EADG> DiceyDays: Hehe, no... that would be awhile to wait. The secs just mean the ip lisence will be renewed after that time.
[04:23] <j_humphrey> thanks phuzion
[04:23] <Kalir> I apologize for his idiocy.
[04:23] <cgssa> ya
[04:23] <cgssa> Kalir
[04:23] <alex_r> must be chatZilla then
[04:23] <Kalir> I'm playing a bit of a game with him.
[04:23] <Jordan_U> singlesun, Yes, for true transparency you need to be using a composite manager though
[04:23] <cgssa> i came back
[04:23] <enfo> to make it semitransparent install compiz
[04:23] <tritium> Kalir: he's the same as cgssa
[04:23] <crdlb> singlesun: the whole window or the background?
[04:23] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, that's okay - I've been giving myself an education in networking lately trying to get all my stuff working - so I'm interested.
[04:23] <EADG> DiceyDays: As for the port not being reachable... not sure.
[04:24] <jack-desktop> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4233478&postcount=10 who knows what language that is, and understands it?
[04:24] <cgssa> SEE HE DID PUT A BOMB
[04:24] <Kalir> Huh.
[04:24] <adelie43> anyone know how to make the network manager search for wireless networks?
[04:24] <jack-desktop> programming language*
[04:24] <Kalir> Anyway, I apologize for this.
[04:24] <singlesun> Jordan_U, crdlb, i just need it slightly transparent so i can read the stuff i have typed underneath it from time to tiem
[04:24] <Kalir> He's been bugging us at #uncyclopedia all day, and I'm just making the best of it.
[04:24] <crdlb> singlesun: are you using compiz?
[04:24] <Jordan_U> jack-desktop, It's bash
[04:24] <sathehand> Not to push my question too much, but I would like to know if no one is answering because they don't know or if it isn't being answered because it is too busy in here...
[04:24] <speeddemon8803> please quit booting people for vanity reasons, its retarded, i was trying to tell cg about a firewall but before i could hit enter you threw em out for being a new user?
[04:24] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi - I've learned a lot, but I want to rip somebody's throat out right now.  ****ing university wifi is locked down with WPA2-Enterprise, TTLS, Dynamic-WEP,2nd stage PAP...
[04:25] <Kalir> Anyway, thanks for understanding.
[04:25] <singlesun> crdlb, compiz decided to die on me today... lol... was in here earlier.... my libs are corrupted...
[04:25] <jack-desktop> Jordan_U, do you understand it and can write/use it?
[04:25] <gnurph69> not to start a war or anything...but what are some of the better NNTP clients out there?  Evolution won't work for me.
[04:25] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, my apologies - and I thought my evdo modem was challenging...
[04:25] <csatlose> hey guys, it's getting late, and I can't find what I'm looking for on google.  Anyone have any suggestions for original gutsy xorg.conf?
[04:25] <adelie43> sathehand: I can say I didn't even see your question
[04:25] <DiceyDays> EADG: Is there anything else I can do?
[04:25] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi: It's hard enough to get it to work with windows, and that's officially supported.  infinitely harder to get it to work with network-manager, esp. with its bugs
[04:25] <crdlb> singlesun: well you need compiz, so join #compiz-fusion and I'll try to help
[04:25] <singlesun> crdlb, i will be reinstalling shortly but was hoping there was some other way to setup transparency while i see if i can fix this
[04:26] <Jordan_U> jack-desktop, Glancing over it it seems simple enough, I have to leave soon though
[04:26] <sathehand> Adelie43, would it be okay if I re-post?
[04:26] <tritium> csatlose: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg automatically saves a backup copy in /etc/X11.  Is that what you used?
[04:26] <alex_r> singlesun: you can't get real transparency without compiz (or kwin in kde4).  you can get "fake" transparency, but it only shows the desktop
[04:26] <sathehand> Be right back.
[04:26] <Jordan_U> jack-desktop, It won't work with XGL BTW
[04:26] <csatlose> tritium: I'm on a macbook and I changed xorg.conf to do tapping, but I don't like it.
[04:26] <adelie43> sathehand: I know I don't mind
[04:26] <enfo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:26] <enfo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:26] <enfo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:26] <enfo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:27] <jack-desktop> Jordan_U, why not?
[04:27] <Jordan_U> singlesun, Or xcompmgr
[04:27] <tritium> csatlose: yes, but how did you change it?  Manually?
[04:27] <enfo> that will regenerate a default xorg.conf
[04:27] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, set up a crappy win box with a crossover cable :)
[04:27] <tritium> enfo: no, it won't.  No need to repeat, either.
[04:27] <speeddemon8803> !repeat
[04:27] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:27] <enfo> sorry i mis-hit the enter
[04:27] <Jordan_U> jack-desktop, The first line "export DISPLAY=:0" would need to be "export DISPLAY=:1" I think, but I havn't used XGL in a while
[04:27] <csatlose> tritium: I changed it manually, backed it up, then messed up the original backup.
[04:28] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi - my win box is win2k, and it can't connect to the WiFi since the program is xp+.  Hell, to have it connected I have to share the laptop connection wifi>wired!
[04:28] <tritium> csatlose: oh, that's unfortunate.
[04:28] <csatlose> enfo: thanks, I'll try that
[04:28] <jack-desktop> Jordan_U, this is for compiz fusion, does that include XGL?
[04:28] <tritium> csatlose: that won't restore the original.  It'll guide you through a re-configure.
[04:29] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, sounds truly evil. Maybe consider paid service? lol actually evdo is pretty cheap now.
[04:29] <csatlose> tritium: THat's fine, I can deal with resolutions.
[04:29] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, and dsl too
[04:29] <tritium> csatlose: good deal, then
[04:29] <csatlose> tritium: enfo: thanks guys.
[04:29] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi: college dorm room, I have no choice
[04:29] <enfo> i think it's always a good idea to back that file up somewhere else
[04:29] <enfo> or have multiple copies of the original xorg.conf file
[04:29] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, most cell providers can give you service for about 30.00 bucks a month now - through your cell.
[04:30] <gnurph69> i need a gnome-based NNTP reader and evolution won't work.  Any suggestions?
[04:30] <nemilar> I paste copies of my xorg.conf file up around my town
[04:30] <sathehand> Adelie43, it looks like my question was answered in the Xubuntu channel without me noticing it. Although the answer left me with additional questions.
[04:30] <nemilar> so I always know it's available
[04:30] <tritium> gnurph69: what do you mean won't work?  It doesn't suit your taste?
[04:30] <alex_r> Jewfro-Macabbi: unless I rent an apartment off-campus, and get a mile-long ethernet cable.... which would probably be easier if not cheaper.     $30/mo is high for a college student :P  and my phone doesn't support anyway
[04:30] <Jordan_U> jack-desktop, Compiz Fusion can be used with XGL but XGL is not installed by default.
[04:30] <nemilar> gnurph69: Pan is pretty popular
[04:30] <Jordan_U> jack-desktop, I have to go now :(
[04:30] <csatlose> enfo: thanks, I'm already reconfiguring.  will definitely save on an external drive too.
[04:30] <jack-desktop> Jordan_U, ok, thanks for the help
[04:30] <gnurph69> tritium:  the login wants to append the FQDN of the news server, and that's not the correct userID...and I can't get it to change.  Ergo, no work.
[04:31] <Jewfro-Macabbi> alex_r, yeah that's true. I remember the bills...
[04:31] <gnurph69> nemilar:  didn't see pan in synaptic.  can you point the way?
[04:31] <tritium> gnurph69: oh, okay.  It works in general, but not for your case...
[04:31] <gnurph69> tritium:  I have to assume so.  :)
[04:31]  * scorphus got a blackout
[04:31] <tritium> gnurph69: it does :)
[04:32] <nemilar> gnurph69: I donno, the name of the package is just pan
[04:33] <Darkmystere> simple queswtion how would i do more then 1 server in 1 X-Chat window?
[04:33] <evan_> im having trouble getting extended ascii characters working
[04:33] <alex_r> gnurph39, nemilar: do you mean perhaps libetpan11?
[04:33] <gnurph69> tritium, nemilar:  ty.  i think i got it
[04:33] <coach> hey whats up
[04:33] <y> I'm looking for a theory... I've got LDAP working on a server and I can connect to it on client, but I can't get anything out of search results
[04:34] <avis> Darkmystere, if you look at the xchat selection you can go to new then server tab
[04:34] <Darkmystere> I dont have a X-chat thing on this version of x-chat..
[04:34] <alex_r> ugh, LDAP.  I'm waiting for Hardy before touching that one >_<
[04:35] <goldbond> where should i save shell scripts?
[04:35] <enfo> IRC->connection->server?
[04:35] <phuzion> I have flashplugin-nonfree installed, yet firefox says I need to install flash to play videos on youtube, how do I fix this?
[04:35] <y> alex_r -- yep. I don't think its too bad. takes some reading, that's for sure. =)
[04:36] <alex_r> y: It's not my ldap server :(
[04:36] <jrib> !flash > phuzion (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:37] <evan_> how do I get extended ascii working
[04:37] <JohnLurner> How do I share a file using Deluge ?
[04:37] <j_humphrey> whats a good, free iso burner for windows?
[04:37] <bruenig> !bittorrent | JohnLurner
[04:37] <ubotu> JohnLurner: Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[04:37] <JohnLurner> when I try it always asks for the directory to save to and then nothing happens
[04:38] <alex_r> j_humphrey: I think Alcohol120% or something similar to that name is good
[04:38] <JohnLurner> ok, how do I seed a file in any program ?
[04:39] <JohnLurner> Nero will burn an ISO image
[04:39] <phuzion> jrib, didn't work
[04:39] <JohnLurner> and there are a ton of demo versions that will work well
[04:39] <evan_> it can't be that hard of an issue to get ascii extended characters in gnome-terminal
[04:39] <phuzion> even uninistalled and reinstalled, still didn't work
[04:39] <norv> most will burn an ISO properly, few will grab one
[04:40] <keith-> hey anyone know the default shortcut key for high contrast in compiz?
[04:40] <JohnLurner> WinIso will make ISO images
[04:40] <jrib> phuzion: what exactly did you do that did not work?
[04:40] <phuzion> jrib, installed flashplugin-nonfree via apt-get
[04:40] <jrib> phuzion: did you read all of what ubotu said?
[04:40] <phuzion> and used the firefox plugin finder service after uninstalling
[04:40] <norv> JohnLurner: I have not seen anything that beats dd_rescue for making iso images
[04:40] <jrib> !flash | phuzion
[04:40] <ubotu> phuzion: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash - The Flash package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[04:40] <phuzion> jrib,yes
[04:41] <jrib> phuzion: "The Flash  package is currently BROKEN, see « /msg ubotu FlashIssues »
[04:41] <norv> JohnLurner: there may be one, because it's in high demand in Windows with all the applications which just love to require discs to run
[04:41] <phuzion> Yes, I read that
[04:41] <jrib> phuzion: ok, did you do what is suggested there?
[04:42] <JohnLurner> does anyone know how to seed a file in deluge ?
[04:42] <galacticone> Hey Everyone no matter what I do I cannot connect to my wireless internet I dont know how to use this WPA Supplicant and the network manager isnt doing a damm thing, its connecting to other sources while I took it off of roaming mode
[04:42] <norv> can one just repair the md5 to install the flash package? last I tried that was the error
[04:42]  * CITguy says Goodnight
[04:42] <phuzion> jrib, reading it now
[04:42] <galacticone> how do you connect to a wpa enabled network?
[04:43] <[eW]DaRk|ubuntu> you can try doing it manually
[04:43] <[eW]DaRk|ubuntu> in terminal
[04:43] <tkxue> how do i figure out what my dns server is?
[04:43] <galacticone> how so I tried to edit the .conf and it was blank
[04:44] <tritium> tkxue: they're listed in /etc/resolv.conf
[04:44] <tkxue> i'm running ubuntu linux ... what comamnd do I type or what file tdo I look at to find out what my current dns servers are?
[04:44] <ePax> What is playstation emulator?
[04:44] <tkxue> got it; thanks
[04:44] <czr> tkxue, cat /etc/resolv.conf
[04:45] <galacticone> [eW]Dark|ubuntu what files do i edit?
[04:46] <galacticone> anyone know what files i edit for the wpa wireless connection/
[04:46] <galacticone> ?
[04:46] <hotmonkeyluv> what is a 'fun' programming language that you could recommend?
[04:46] <jomasecu> Hi.. having a problem with my installation. I get "1. FD 1.44MB System Type-(06)" and then nothing happens.
[04:46] <tritium> hotmonkeyluv: python
[04:46] <ubuntuuserinneed> Excuse me, can anyone  tell me what is thiss mount point thing?
[04:46] <tritium> galacticone: have you read the wiki pages on wireless?
[04:46] <russ> czr just eavesdropping, but I tried that and the response I got was "nameserver  <IP_ADDRESS>" - does that mean my router is actually hosting a dns service?
[04:46] <galacticone> tritium I have and found them useless
[04:46] <alex_r> russ: probably
[04:47] <czr> russ, if your router is <IP_ADDRESS>, then yes.
[04:47] <ubuntuuserinneed> I'm currently trying to install ubuntu and I selected to manually edit the partition.
[04:47] <czr> russ, although it might just be a caching dns service, not a full blown DNS server like BIND for example.
[04:47] <galacticone> tritium the files it says to edit come up as blanks for me
[04:47] <russ> that's cool.
[04:47] <tritium> galacticone: which file is blank?  Which URL are you trying to follow?
[04:47] <hotmonkeyluv> tritium: and why would you say that? is it a higher level one, does it have nice syntax, what?
[04:47] <galacticone> tritium the god damm ubuntu wifi docs wpa page
[04:47] <tritium> hotmonkeyluv: yes to both
[04:48] <tritium> galacticone: calm down, and please don't use foul language here
[04:48] <hotmonkeyluv> tritium: I see
[04:48] <phuzion> jrib, so just install the .deb from http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=53648&stc=1&d=1198033466 ?
[04:48] <galacticone> tritium Im terribly frustrated ubuntu has alot of problems
[04:48] <jrib> phuzion: yes, that is one way
[04:48] <phuzion> Alright, cool
[04:49] <tritium> galacticone: you may be frustrated, but keep the channel family-friendly please
[04:49] <tritium> galacticone: show me where you're having trouble.  Give me the URL, and the path to the file you're trying to edit.
[04:49] <galacticone> tritium https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo
[04:50] <ubuntuuserinneed> anyone?
[04:50] <galacticone> tritium /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[04:50] <novato_br> how can I get record my desktop with mencoder?
[04:50] <Creedence> hi all
[04:51] <jomasecu> My computer gets stuck at the very beginning of the install. It says "1. FD 1.44MB System Type-(06)" and then nothing. I don't have a floppy drive.
[04:51] <Creedence> quick q, does anyone know if there is a tool to sync offline files for ubuntu from a samba share? kinda like windows?
[04:51] <tritium> galacticone: yes, I see there is an inconsistency with the wiki page and gutsy.  Have you tried first to use Network Manager to setup wpa?  It should "just work."
[04:51] <galacticone> tritium it didnt just work at all
[04:52] <galacticone> tritium it connected to another wireless network
[04:52] <novato_br> how can I get to record my desktop with mencoder?
[04:52] <galacticone> tritium the gnome netowkr manager is one of the worst programs ive seen, it reminds me alot of windows
[04:52] <tritium> galacticone: so, NM is working.  That's a good start.
[04:53] <tritium> galacticone: please just double-check that wpasupplicant is installed.
[04:53] <ubuntuuserinneed> guys, they say that I should mount a partition on /, does this refer to the partition I want ubuntu to be installed on?
[04:53] <czr> Creedence, rsync if you like command line
[04:53] <galacticone> tritium how do i do that?
[04:53] <tritium> galacticone: apt-cache policy wpasupplicant will list the installed version (if any)
[04:53] <spdf> ubuntuuserinneed: Yes
[04:54] <ubuntuuserinneed> thanks spdf
[04:54] <Creedence> czer323, that's cool, but is there a tool to automate it? I am looking to have files synced with my home server on my laptop
[04:54] <spdf> ubuntuuserinneed: / is the root file system
[04:54] <evan_> How do I get ascii extended characters to show up in gnome-terminal???????
[04:54] <galacticone> tritium its installed
[04:54] <czr> Creedence, you can automate anything command line driven with a script
[04:55] <Creedence> czr, true, but I am not quite at that level at the command line yet
[04:55] <Creedence> czr, u know of anything GUI based?
[04:55] <tritium> galacticone: okay, good.  So, when you attempt to connect, you choose your SSID?  Do you know that the router is configured properly?  (Perhaps another machine uses wpa with it successfully?)
[04:55] <ubuntuuserinneed> guys, about the bootloader how do I ascertain that it's the correct device to install on?
[04:55] <galacticone> tritium my windows machine connects to it great along with my mac
[04:55] <czr> Creedence, I don't use GUI for that stuff, so no. But if you do 'apt-cache search synchronize', it should give you a list of packages that might be more of the kind that you're looking for
[04:56] <evan_> I need ascii characters for working in the terminal
[04:56] <evan_> -__-
[04:56] <Creedence> czr, cool
[04:56] <galacticone> tritium the windows machine is my dual boot windows and ubuntu
[04:56] <Creedence> czr, thanks for your help! much appreciated
[04:56] <tritium> galacticone: good.  So what happens when you setup NM to connect to it?
[04:56] <evan_> you know this is dumb lol works perfectly fine in windows
[04:56] <czr> Creedence, once you find a package that looks promising, use apt-cache show <packagename> to display more information about it
[04:56] <galacticone> tritium it just doesnt work or stalls for a long period of time
[04:56] <czr> Creedence, or you the graphical package manager, different front end, same database :-)
[04:56] <spdf> ubuntuuserinneed: Are you installing to your primary HD?
[04:56] <czr> you=use even.
[04:57] <ubuntuuserinneed> spdf: thats exactly it, I'm not sure if this is the primary HD.
[04:57] <tritium> galacticone: have you looked at logs in /var/log/?  /var/log/daemon.log is a good start
[04:57] <galacticone> tritium basically its incredibly buggy
[04:57] <ubuntuuserinneed> I mean, in the BIOS I set it to load this one first, and on the mobo its the first sata port
[04:57] <tritium> galacticone: it works well for many people.
[04:57] <ubuntuuserinneed> but it shows up as SCSI3 on ubuntu
[04:57] <galacticone> tritium i wouldnt know what anything in those logs means
[04:57] <ubuntuuserinneed> and sdb
[04:57] <spdf> ubuntuuserinneed: If its set to load that one first, then its the primary, so that should be where grub is install
[04:57] <tritium> galacticone: there may be some other underlying issue here in your case.
[04:58] <scorphus> hello again. I get no window borders and titles, nor window list on the panel, look: http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/4/1/30/f_ubuntugutsym_42e884a.png How do I fix this?
[04:58] <ubuntuuserinneed> spdf: would that be hd0? because I tried earlier and its not working...
[04:58] <spdf> ubuntuuserinneed: Do you have another hd in there?
[04:58] <ubuntuuserinneed> I have 3 HDDs on this pc
[04:58] <galacticone> tritium my log is empty
[04:58] <spdf> ubuntuuserinneed: Do you also boot windows?
[04:59] <tritium> galacticone: which wireless chipset?
[04:59] <ubuntuuserinneed> not for now, going to soon though.
[04:59] <xMS_user> THANK YOU ALL FOR SAVING MY LIFE! GO UBUNTU!
[04:59] <galacticone> tritium im using ndiswrapper for a ralink rt2570
[04:59] <czer323> weird, someone else with a similar name to me.
[04:59] <mazev> scorphus, are you using beryl or compiz?
[04:59] <scorphus> mazev: no one of these
[04:59] <hotmonkeyluv> tritium: Is there much demand for python coders?
[05:00] <tritium> hotmonkeyluv: I don't know.
[05:00] <y> I'm looking for a theory... I've got LDAP working on a server and I can connect to it on client, but I'm not getting consistent ldapsearch results from client/server
[05:00] <jrib> scorphus: in "Appearance" preferences, you have "None" selected for effects?
[05:00] <scorphus> mazev: there are some packages missing, when I do metacity --raplace it works
[05:00] <czr> czer323, happens quite often to me too :-)
[05:00] <tritium> hotmonkeyluv: in what context?  ubuntu?  yes.  open source?  Job market?
[05:00] <scorphus> jrib: yes
[05:00] <j3s3r> Quick question, I am looking for a search engine that uses live people to search for u
[05:01] <j3s3r> I know it exists any idea what the site is?
[05:01] <jrib> !offtopic | j3s3r
[05:01] <ubotu> j3s3r: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:01] <czr> hotmonkeyluv, a lot of the more interesting environments (science/research) use python a lot
[05:01] <hotmonkeyluv> tritium: I'm just looking for a lingo that'll be fun to learn, easy to use, powerful, and in demand.
[05:01] <klan-chuki-dialo> hola alguien me puede decir como uso mi escaner
[05:01] <hotmonkeyluv> tritium: I like science
[05:01] <ubuntuuserinneed> spdf: hello?
[05:01] <czr> hotmonkeyluv, although you should probably ask the question on #python instead
[05:01] <tritium> !es | klan-chuki-dialo
[05:01] <ubotu> klan-chuki-dialo: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[05:02] <tritium> hotmonkeyluv: don't we all?
[05:02] <hotmonkeyluv> tritium: Is there a good program for writing code in? I've used gedit once, seemed ok for bash scritps
[05:02] <klan-chuki-dialo> ok
[05:02] <galacticone> tritium is there anything else I can do??
[05:02] <ubuntuuserinneed> spdf: I used to use windows, I encountered some problems that I cannot ascertain, so I'm trying to use ubuntu to see if the problems occur here too, and perhaps find if there are diagnostic tools for linux that can see what the problem is
[05:02] <galacticone> tritium will wireless ever work for my laptop?
[05:02] <scorphus> mazev, jrib: this is a gutsy server, and I needed to install graphical environment, so I just did "aptitude install gdm" and got this. Looks like there is some crucial package missing
[05:03] <tritium> galacticone: you've already shown that it works (with another wireless network)
[05:03] <lost_in_space> wireless works on my laptop
[05:03] <tritium> hotmonkeyluv: yes, there are several IDEs available.
[05:03] <soldats> scorphus, a graphcal enviroment is the X windows enviroment
[05:03] <evan_> k little  help here..
[05:03] <galacticone> tritium well it is right now
[05:03] <czr> scorphus, aptitude install ubuntu-desktop = full graphical environment
[05:03] <spdf> ubuntuuserinneed: Just install grub to whichever you're booting first (in this case, the hd you installed to)... if its sdb, then its like (1,0)
[05:03] <scorphus> soldats: right, you know what I mean
[05:04] <spdf> ubuntuuserinneed: its likely*
[05:04] <galacticone> tritium im speaking to you with it
[05:04] <czr> scorphus, gdm is just the graphical login/display manager.
[05:04] <soldats> scorphus, look at what czr wrote you
[05:04] <hotmonkeyluv> tritium: thanks for the tips, I'll ask in #python about the ide
[05:04] <scorphus> czr: I don't need all of those extra 400+ packages, do I?
[05:04] <Jangari> i have to search an entire server for a bunch of wav files all with "SDM" in their name, what's the syntax for ls to do that?
[05:04] <tritium> galacticone: so, it definitely works.  wireless chipsets that require ndiswrapper are sometimes problematic
[05:04] <czr> scorphus, if you're lazy, yes. if not, it's going to be painful :-)
[05:04] <tritium> hotmonkeyluv: good luck
[05:05] <scorphus> czr: I don't feel like I'm lazy
[05:05] <scorphus> :)
[05:05] <soldats> Jangari, locate *SDM*.wav
[05:05] <czr> scorphus, you could try xubuntu-desktop instead
[05:05] <mazev> scorphus, you probably don't need all those packages but it will save you time
[05:05] <scorphus> just need some tips...
[05:05] <ubuntuuserinneed> (1,0) ?
[05:05] <hotmonkeyluv> tritium: thanks!
[05:05] <Jangari> soldats: can't I do it with ls -R?
[05:05] <mazev> scorphus, most servers don't use gui
[05:05] <galacticone> tritium Im looking at my logs and its showing Im not putting in the right wireless key
[05:06] <soldats> Jangari, ls -R list all dirs recursivvely
[05:06] <tritium> galacticone: ah, hopefully it's something simple like that!
[05:06] <galacticone> tritium my wireless key is case sensitive how can I be sure Im adding it correctly?
[05:06] <ubuntuuserinneed> partition #2 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sdb) as ext3 partition #1 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sdb) as swap <--- so what do I type into the advanced window?
[05:06] <Jangari> or can't you specify substrings with ls?
[05:06] <czr> Jangari, you might want to use 'find' instead. ls is not meant to search
[05:06] <scorphus> mazev: yeah, correct. this was installed by xen-tools, and I imagine it uses a server distro. But I need gui to test my software (phpeclipse) on ubuntu, as many users report problems with it
[05:06] <soldats> Jangari, not sure i use ls for basic stuff the right way to do it is with the locate command
[05:06] <kapace> hello i can't see my ubuntu box's hostname, but ip works ok..
[05:06] <tritium> galacticone: NM lets you view the key you enter.  There's a little radio button or check box for that.
[05:06] <Jangari> okay, ta
[05:07] <ubuntuuserinneed> I'm just not sure what device I should fill in.
[05:07] <galacticone> ok thanks
[05:07] <ubuntuuserinneed> I tried hd3 earlier(since scsi3) and I got a fatal error
[05:07] <klan-chuki-dialo> como entro a ubuntu es
[05:07] <tritium> klan-chuki-dialo: /join #ubuntu-es
[05:07] <klan-chuki-dialo> graxs
[05:07] <cvd> hey there, any know Why i when i logon in ubuntu i dont have internet?, but after doing this 'sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0' then i have internet
[05:08] <Jangari> hmm, i'm just getting the same "no file or directory" error
[05:08] <tritium> cvd: you evidently have it configured in /etc/network/interfaces, but don't have it listed as "auto"
[05:08] <czr> Jangari, what are you trying to do?
[05:09] <tritium> cvd: if you completely commented it out in /etc/network/interfaces, Network Manager should take care of it manually for you
[05:09] <Jangari> search an entire server, 4TB odd, for a coupld of .wav files that begin with SDM, czr
[05:09] <Jangari> viw ssh
[05:09] <Jangari> via*
[05:09] <czr> Jangari, have you external mounts on the server? (NFS, CIFS, etc?)
[05:09] <Jangari> no, tunneling in
[05:09] <czr> if not, find / -iname "sdm*wav"
[05:10] <czr> and add 2> /dev/null to the end of that
[05:10] <czr> since you're not interested in error messages
[05:10] <cvd> i dont know what you are talking about
[05:10] <czr> if you have a lot of file, it will take a long time JanC
[05:10] <czr> sorry, Jangari.
[05:10] <Jangari> meh, it's a powerful server, and it's only harvesting filenames, surely
[05:11] <czr> Jangari, that command will cause each directory contents to be loaded from the disk(s)
[05:11] <Jangari> "find /", can I begin it at a particular point? say "find /r0/d0/"?
[05:11] <czr> Jangari, and directory contents are scattered around the disk area(s), so the disk will need to seek a lot -> takes long time.
[05:11] <czr> Jangari, yes.
[05:11] <czr> Jangari, it
[05:11] <tritium> cvd: what part do you need more explanation for?
[05:11] <czr> it's a very powerful tool.
[05:12] <cvd> so how to make ubuntu do this automaticaly when i logon 'sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[05:12] <bullgard4> Why does Ubuntu provide no DEB program package for JaLingo? (http://sourceforge.net/projects/jalingo)
[05:12] <tritium> cvd: I told you already
[05:12] <czr> bullgard4, does debian provide a deb-package for it?
[05:13] <cvd> let me check
[05:13] <bullgard4> czr: Is that all that you can contribute to answer my question?
[05:13] <hotmonkeyluv> tritium: hrm, it's saying i need to be identified to enter #python. what's that mean?
[05:13] <soldats> hotmonkeyluv, register you nick
[05:13] <czr> bullgard4, no.
[05:13] <gupteshwar> hello all
[05:13] <YeTr2> bullgard4: because there are hundreds of other softwares that other people one, and it's majority and popularity rule for which packages ubuntu decides to include in it's repos.
[05:13] <Jangari> alright, " find /r0/d0/ *SDM*.wav" returned everything on the server
[05:13] <Jangari> everything...
[05:13] <hotmonkeyluv> soldats: with /msg nickserv?
[05:13] <me> hello? Can anyone help me?
[05:13] <ubuntuuserinneed> so (hd1,0) ?
[05:13] <czr> Jangari, find /r0/d0 -iname "sdm*wav"
[05:14] <dreamnid> !ask | me
[05:14] <ubotu> me: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[05:14] <hotmonkeyluv> me is beyond help
[05:14] <Jangari> iname, eh?
[05:14] <tritium> !register | hotmonkeyluv
[05:14] <ubotu> hotmonkeyluv: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[05:14] <cvd> this is what i have: auto lo
[05:14] <czr> Jangari, yes. that's a find "predicate" (search term).
[05:14] <cvd> iface lo inet loopback
[05:14] <cvd> iface ppp0 inet ppp
[05:14] <cvd> provider ppp0
[05:14] <cvd> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[05:14] <cvd> auto e
[05:14] <hotmonkeyluv> ohhhhhh
[05:14] <FloodBot1> cvd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:14] <Jangari> bon
[05:14] <soldats> hotmonkeyluv, /msg nickserv register <password> <emailaddr>
[05:14] <YeTr2> bullgard4: you are more than welcome to compile your own package for your own personal use using an application called checkinstall
[05:14] <Jangari> so what does 'find' do without that iname option? search for everything?
[05:14] <tritium> cvd: don't paste here
[05:14] <gupteshwar> I was  using Fiesty and now upgraded my desktop to gutsy from that day i am facing problem of high cpu usage due to kacpid
[05:14] <me> hey, I want to install ubuntu but my pc keep entering sleep mode =/
[05:14] <cvd> its not to much
[05:15] <tritium> cvd: yes, it is
[05:15] <Jangari> me, are you on a liveCD?
[05:15] <gupteshwar> I am not getting whats a problem?
[05:15] <cvd> so i paste one line at time
[05:15] <czr> Jangari, it interprets all parameters as the directory names where to start search from
[05:15] <UnWorthy> so who has a few minutes and wouldn't mind answering a couple of questions about a dual boot?
[05:15] <tritium> cvd: no, you won't
[05:15] <czr> Jangari, and without any predicates (search terms) it will display names of everything it finds from those directories
[05:15] <Flannel> !ask | UnWorthy
[05:15] <cvd> so its already done.. its say auto
[05:15] <ubotu> UnWorthy: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[05:16] <me> only my monitor enters sleep mode. My pc keep doing noises
[05:16] <UnWorthy> ty
[05:16] <Jangari> okay czr, so what i said earlier " find /r0/d0/ *SDM*.wav", will search for everything underneath /r0/d0, and then anything under "*SDM*.wav"?
[05:16] <tritium> cvd: why do you have it listed at all?  Try commenting out all lines associated with eth0, and let Network Manager handle it for you.
[05:16] <me> i downloaded the cd from de ubuntu site
[05:16] <UnWorthy> !ask how to get ubuntu to run from ntldr or XP to run from grub
[05:16] <me> 7.10 for amd 64
[05:16] <czr> Jangari, yes, assuming the shell can find any names that fill that pattern. if the shell cannot, it will pass the parameter directly to find, which will think it's a dir name where to search from.
[05:16] <cvd> i dont now its ubuntu i dont do anything
[05:16] <dreamnid> lol, unworthy
[05:16] <Flannel> UnWorthy: When you install Ubuntu (and GRUB with it) you'll have an entry for XP
[05:17] <UnWorthy> really?
[05:17] <UnWorthy> entry?
[05:17] <czr> Jangari, in unix, it is the command shell that expands *? and other characters, before the program that you're starting even sees them.
[05:17] <UnWorthy> whats this you speak of?
[05:17] <Jangari> i.e., i ask it to search for everything inside the directory /r0/d0, which comprises about 3TB of space, that was silly of me'
[05:17] <Flannel> UnWorthy: A selection at your GRUB menu.  So you can boot to XP or Ubuntu
[05:17] <tritium> cvd: System -> Administration -> Network, and make sure the connection has roaming mode enabled
[05:17] <hotmonkeyluv> yay! i'm now registered! I feel complete, my life now has meaning!!!
[05:17] <czr> Jangari, if you want a list of everything, find /r0/d0 is your friend ;-)
[05:17] <UnWorthy> well see when I installed ubuntu it killed my mbr
[05:17] <cvd> its i check roaming the connection dont work
[05:17] <JohnRobert> where can I find a list of different ubuntus like kubuntu, xubuntu etc..?
[05:18] <Jangari> ha
[05:18] <dreamnid> UnWorthy, if you installed xp first, then Ubuntu next, there will automatically be an option to boot XP from grub
[05:18] <jetscreamer> Jangari: http://wooledge.org:8000/UsingFind
[05:18] <bullgard4> YeTr2: Thank you for providing me that information.
[05:18] <Jangari> pity it's about 100,000 lines ling
[05:18] <Jangari> long*
[05:18] <UnWorthy> when I tried to run XP from grub my hal was gone!
[05:18] <UnWorthy> HAL WAS GONE
[05:18] <Jangari> thanks jetscreamer
[05:18] <Brinson> Someone asked about dual booting. You should check out Wubi. Wubi-Installer.org Like 2 or 3 clicks from inside windows and you have a dual boot scenario.
[05:18] <me> jangari, do you know how to solve this sleep monitor problem?
[05:18] <UnWorthy> 2 or 3 clicks
[05:18] <Jangari> run the liveCD, me
[05:19] <me> how
[05:19] <me> ?
[05:19] <Jangari> that's the only way to install
[05:19] <cvd> brb
[05:19] <musikgoat> anyone else having flakey internet?
[05:19] <Brinson> Something like that. Less than 10 me thinks.
[05:19] <hotmonkeyluv> JohnRobert: ubuntu.com
[05:19] <me> i boot the cd
[05:19] <Jangari> put it in the cd drive and restart, by default a bootable cd will be the first device to boot
[05:19] <dreamnid> me: sorry, are you saying that you can't see anything when you try to boot off the live cd?
[05:19] <kapace> anyone got WINS working on ubuntu?
[05:19] <kapace> or how i can restart it
[05:19] <Jangari> oh, you have booted?
[05:19] <me> i did it
[05:19] <kapace> i have winbind
[05:19] <me> yeap
[05:19] <UnWorthy> I don't want to run "wubi" I want to run UU 1.6
[05:20] <Jangari> so you're on ubuntu now?
[05:20] <ubuntuuserinneed> does anyone know why my RAM shows up as 1004MB and not 1024MB in the system monitor?
[05:20] <me> nope, on xp
[05:20] <UnWorthy> my problem was grub killed my hal.dll
[05:20] <UnWorthy> how do I stop it from doing that?
[05:20] <musikgoat> ubuntuuserinneed: video card could be using memory
[05:20] <me> getting information to boot again and install ubuntu
[05:20] <dreamnid> me: Okay, so it sounds like Ubuntu isn't detecting your monitor resolution correclty
[05:20] <Jangari> me, do you want to install ubuntu?
[05:20] <czr> ubuntuuserinneed, probably you have an integrated video on your motherboard and BIOS has reserved some memory for that
[05:20] <Jangari> do you want to keep your xp stuff?
[05:20] <ubuntuuserinneed> musikgoat: I have a dedicated video card.
[05:20] <ubuntuuserinneed> err
[05:21] <ubuntuuserinneed> musikgoat/czr
[05:21] <me> dreamnid: how do I solve this oO?
[05:21] <UnWorthy> how do I not get grub to kill my hal.dll?
[05:21] <me> jangari: don't have to. Its a new pc, not much stuff here
[05:21] <czr> ubuntuuserinneed, what does 'free' say about total Mem? (just the one number)
[05:21] <UnWorthy> anyone?
[05:21] <UnWorthy> how do I not get grub to kill my hal.dll?
[05:21] <tritium> !repeat | UnWorthy
[05:21] <ubotu> UnWorthy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience
[05:21] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:21] <Flannel> UnWorthy: GRUB literally can't kill hal.dll, it doesn't touch anything except the MBR
[05:22] <UnWorthy> so how was my hal.dll missing after the install and fixmbr and fixboot didn't work?
[05:22] <oboy03> hi
[05:22] <oboy03> can anyone help me
[05:22] <me> dreamnid: if i lower the resolution, the installation will proceed?
[05:22] <Jangari> oh, i see, when you boot from liveCD the monitor keeps blacking out? i probably won't be able to help you
[05:22] <cvd> aparently its working, tritium
[05:22] <oboy03> i've installed mirc on wine
[05:22] <cvd> :-)
[05:22] <tritium> cvd: good
[05:22] <dreamnid> me: ah... how do you plan to lower the resolution?
[05:23] <me> jangari: thanks for the good will anyway =]
[05:23] <ubuntuuserinneed> czr: under total?
[05:23] <oboy03> I've deleted the mirc but it is still there on the programs tab
[05:23] <ubuntuuserinneed>  1028412
[05:23] <me> dreamnid: i'll try that out
[05:23] <czr> ubuntuuserinneed, yes. Mem - row, Total column.
[05:23] <Jack_Sparrow> me: You can F6 and make some changes there
[05:23] <Jangari> me, how long before your screen 'sleeps'?
[05:23] <UnWorthy> so my hal.dll just vanished? and it had nothing to do with ubuntu?
[05:23] <dreamnid> me: I mean, when you boot it, does it let you choose the resolution?
[05:23] <dreamnid> me: unless you're talking about changing it in XP, which won't help
[05:23] <tritium> UnWorthy: it has nothing to do with grub, most certainly.
[05:24] <czr> ubuntuuserinneed, that looks quite normal. some of the low memory cannot be reclaimed and some memory is reserved by the BIOS for various tables it builds on boot
[05:24] <ubuntuuserinneed> czr: thing is that I have 1024MB of RAM. 2x512 sticks
[05:24] <UnWorthy> what could cause it?
[05:24] <musikgoat> UnWorthy: could you have two locations that have a windows install?
[05:24] <UnWorthy> no just 1
[05:24] <me> jangari:as soon as i press "enter" in "install ubuntu" ((first option))
[05:24] <ubuntuuserinneed> and it shows up in windows...
[05:24] <ubuntuuserinneed> hmm?
[05:24] <UnWorthy> I installed ubuntu on my 2nd HD
[05:24] <UnWorthy> 2nd part on the 2nd HD
[05:24] <me> jangari: and if i press "install with updates" to
[05:24] <me> too*
[05:24] <ubuntuuserinneed> low memory? mem reserved by bios...
[05:24] <ubuntuuserinneed> odd
[05:25] <czr> ubuntuuserinneed, if you want really accurate picture, use dmidecode
[05:25] <UnWorthy> lol heres a good question which should I install windows vista ultimate or ubuntu ultimate 1.6? hehe
[05:25] <oboy03> i've uninstall mirc on wine, but the mirc tab on programs is still there how can i remove it
[05:25] <czr> ubuntuuserinneed, it can show you how many sticks you have, and all kinds of low level info IF you really want to see it (run with sudo)
[05:25] <cvd> any site to download usplashs?
[05:25] <me> dreamnid: yes, on the boot i can set the resolution. gonna put 640x 480 or lower oO
[05:25] <dreamnid> me: ok, good luck :-)
[05:25] <Flannel> UnWorthy: You used ubuntu ultimate?  That could be the reason.  Who knows.  Get an official version of ubuntu and try that.  Of course, it won't bring back a missing file.
[05:25] <crdlb> UnWorthy: you do not want "ubuntu ultimate"
[05:26] <me> dreamnid: thx =D
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> oboy03: How did you remove it?  Uninstall or just delete it.  #Winehq has answers for most wine issues
[05:26] <UnWorthy> no this was was ubuntu fiesty fawn
[05:26] <UnWorthy> whats wrong with ultimate??
[05:26] <me> jandari: any more clues, jandari? =]
[05:26] <crdlb> !ultimate | UnWorthy
[05:26] <ubotu> UnWorthy: The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[05:26] <__bb> someone can help me make a router using firehol?
[05:26] <Flannel> UnWorthy: It's a hackjob on the real Ubuntu
[05:26] <crdlb> it's not actually an ubuntu project
[05:26] <oboy03> i just deleted it
[05:26] <oboy03> thanks
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[05:27] <Jangari> sorry me, i ain't got nothin'
[05:27] <UnWorthy> so I wouldn't have a problem installing all the apps thats come with ultimate?
[05:27] <UnWorthy> on gusty or feisty?
[05:27] <me> jangari: that's ok =] wish me luck
[05:27] <czr> ubuntuuserinneed, the memory that linux can use is limited by what the BIOS will tell it when the kernel starts. instead of lying like windows, most linux tools just report the size of the "really useable memory".
[05:27] <me> and thanks, jangari and dreamnid =]
[05:27] <czr> ubuntuuserinneed, so what you're seeing is quite normal.
[05:27] <Jack_Sparrow> UnWorthy: Sure you would have trouble if they had to change repos to get them into their version
[05:27] <UnWorthy> repos?
[05:28] <UnWorthy> sry linux n00b here...
[05:28] <UnWorthy> *nix as my brother calls it
[05:28] <ubuntuuserinneed> czr: I see...
[05:28] <tritium> !repos > UnWorthy
[05:28] <UnWorthy> I'm interested in taking my linux+ after my A+ and net+
[05:28] <czr> ubuntuuserinneed, did you try 'sudo dmidecode' yet?
[05:28] <ubuntuuserinneed> I did
[05:28] <ubuntuuserinneed> showed me something like A0 and A1
[05:28] <UnWorthy> thanks tritium
[05:29] <UnWorthy> lol
[05:29] <Mr__> anybody here still?
[05:29] <dreamnid> UnWorthy: You'll learn to love the repos :-P
[05:29] <UnWorthy> thats from spiderman 2
[05:29] <elninja> UnWorthy, if you had the Ubuntu installer resize a Windows partition without defragging it first, then it might have lost/corrupted hal.dll (or other files)
[05:29] <ubuntuuserinneed> Btw, I wana know if its possible to get my multimedia keys working in Amarok
[05:29] <tritium> UnWorthy: no, it's really not
[05:29] <UnWorthy> yeah it recommended drfraging...
[05:29] <UnWorthy> maybe I should listen...
[05:29] <Mr__> whats the off topic channel again
[05:29] <Mr__> ?
[05:29] <UnWorthy> they make it sound so optional!!
[05:29] <UnWorthy> :P
[05:30] <ubuntuuserinneed> (also reinstalling ubuntu now since it kept screwing up after a while.
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[05:30] <tritium> !enter | UnWorthy
[05:30] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:30] <ubotu> UnWorthy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:30] <czr> Mr__, add '-offtopic' to the channel name :-)
[05:30] <dreamnid> !offtopic | Mr__
[05:30] <ubotu> Mr__: please see above
[05:30] <Mr__> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:30] <UnWorthy> damn this bot doesn't like me
[05:30] <tritium> UnWorthy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritium (It's *not* from SpiderMan 2)
[05:30] <UnWorthy> so is it too much trouble to try and get ntldr to load ubuntu?
[05:31] <UnWorthy> should I just use grub?
[05:31] <UnWorthy> sry tritium
[05:31] <ubuntuuserinneed> whats ntldr?
[05:31] <Cpudan80> Just use GRUB
[05:31] <czr> UnWorthy, there's a small GUI program for windows that did that. let me google
[05:31] <dreamnid> NTloader
[05:31] <UnWorthy> NTLoader
[05:31] <czr> if you really absolutely are too scared of replacing the windows MBR with the GRUB one
[05:31] <UnWorthy> k thanks czr
[05:31] <oboy03> where can i find the wine folder?
[05:31] <Flannel> UnWorthy: GRUB is much easier.  Especially with Ubuntu updates.    Somehow you lost that file.
[05:32] <Elda> Quick question.... is there any program like the Network Manager applet in Gnome for KDE?  Because for some reason, when using KDE even though it finds my network it wont allow me to connect to it
[05:32] <ubuntuuserinneed> Cpudan80: the insane one that didn't allow me to dual boot if I installed windows afterward you mean.
[05:32] <UnWorthy> well
[05:32] <Elda> But I want to switch from Gnome to KDE
[05:32] <UnWorthy> let me show you this...
[05:32] <Cpudan80> ubuntuuserinneed: Something like that
[05:32] <ploom> UnWorthy, its propably easier to go with Grub
[05:32] <UnWorthy> http://www.matthewjmiller.net/howtos/dual-boot-linux-and-windows/
[05:32] <elninja> UnWorthy, I find it easiest to partition the drive with an Ubuntu liveCD, then install Windows on it's partition, afterwards install Ubuntu on it's partition(s).
[05:32] <UnWorthy> this is where I got my dual boot info from...
[05:32] <ubuntuuserinneed> hope it installs properly this time
[05:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !dialup
[05:32] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[05:32] <ploom> UnWorthy, and you can always reset the mbr by fdisk later in case you need
[05:33] <Elda> heyll no
[05:33] <Elda> I would never used dial up, lol
[05:33] <UnWorthy> yeah I tried fixboot
[05:33] <Elda> WIreless network ftw
[05:33] <ubuntuuserinneed> DSL is dial up too :(
[05:33] <Elda> Cable
[05:33] <czr> UnWorthy, sry, can't recall it's name. been something like 5 years since I last mentioned it to someone.. autoboot, bootauto or smt or other like that :-)
[05:33] <Elda> Not dialup ;)
[05:33] <UnWorthy> and tried expanding the hal.dl_ into hal.dll from my xp pro disk...but got frustrated
[05:33] <UnWorthy> it's ok czr
[05:33] <UnWorthy> I'll look it up whats it do again? :P
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Elda: The point is.. that you can disable knetwork manager.... and still have internet..
[05:34] <UnWorthy> I just formated...
[05:34] <czr> UnWorthy, it's a small GUI program that will setup your boot.ini to support chainloading other boot managers
[05:34] <czr> UnWorthy, a windows program that is.
[05:34] <Elda> how would I bring my network list up then?
[05:34] <czr> you can also do it manually, but it's quite painful
[05:34] <Elda> I need to bring it up, select my network and enter the password
[05:34] <UnWorthy> kk, so should I install feisty fawn or gutsy?
[05:35] <WGGMk> Im having trouble starting DansGuardian on my Gutsy Gibbon Server (amd64) can anyone assist me in troubleshooting?
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Elda: You can get better answers to kde questions in #Kubuntu
[05:35] <Elda> kk, thanks :)
[05:35] <ubuntuuserinneed> lets hope the installer doesn't screw up now
[05:35] <ploom> UnWorthy, its up to you whether you're interested in the latest and greatest or just look for the three years of support (the LTS thingy)
[05:35] <UnWorthy> and what are the order of ops for my install...I have XP on c:\ and I want to install ubuntu to the 2nd partition of my d:
[05:35] <ubuntuuserinneed> YAY NO FATAL ERROR
[05:36] <ploom> UnWorthy, usually sooner or later you upgrade anyway
[05:36] <UnWorthy> well I'm really interested in beryl and compiz
[05:36] <scoundrel> hi, guys
[05:36] <UnWorthy> can someone point me to a good faq for my situation...
[05:36] <tritium> UnWorthy: they've merged into one project: compiz-fusion
[05:36] <soneil> UnWorthy: the "missing hal.dll" message is really misleading.  it usually means your partition layout has changed enough that boot.ini isn't pointing to the right place anymore.  hal.dll is "missing" because boot.ini sent it looking on the wrong partition.
[05:36] <soneil> nothing's broken.  just confused.
[05:37] <Flannel> UnWorthy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[05:37] <UnWorthy> yeah
[05:37] <UnWorthy> ah thats vista...
[05:37] <UnWorthy> eww
[05:37] <scoundrel> few weeks go we've started moving some of our servers from rhel4 to ubuntu server (7.10)...
[05:37] <xGeek> Missing hal.dll can be easily fixed from the restore console.
[05:37] <xGeek> Search for it on the MS site.
[05:37] <UnWorthy> fixmbr?
[05:37] <scoundrel> during this week three servers crashed
[05:37] <xGeek> hal.dll has nothing to do with your MBR
[05:37] <czr> scoundrel, what HW?
[05:37] <xGeek> it's getting past the MBR or you wouldn't be seeing that error
[05:38] <tritium> UnWorthy: please remember the !enter reminder
[05:38] <scoundrel> all of them with the same problem - processes started invoking OOM-killer and server was down.
[05:38] <UnWorthy> sry, why would ubuntu kill hal.dll?
[05:38] <scoundrel> czr:  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5420, 12-16GB RAM
[05:38] <tritium> UnWorthy: we already explained: It *didn't* kill hal.dll
[05:38] <xGeek> I don't think ubuntu had anything to do with it.
[05:39] <UnWorthy> well it was grub or ubuntu
[05:39] <xGeek> I have customers with the mysterious hal.dll problem all the time with one partition and no ubuntu.
[05:39] <tritium> UnWorthy: no, it was neither
[05:39] <UnWorthy> because it goes from fine to shit in seconds
[05:39] <UnWorthy> sry language...
[05:39] <tritium> !language | UnWorthy
[05:39] <ubotu> UnWorthy: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[05:39] <czr> scoundrel, hmm. you're using the correct kernel for that amount of mem?
[05:39] <czr> scoundrel, i.e., does 'free' see all of the mem on those systems?
[05:39] <co_gokil> GTFYGYGYGYGY
[05:40] <UnWorthy> Current System Configuration —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n—
[05:40] <UnWorthy> Operating System: Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 up for 1 days, 7 hours, 28 minutes 30 seconds
[05:40] <UnWorthy> CPU/RAM: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz with Currently 464 of 2048MB in use which is 22.66%
[05:40] <UnWorthy> Storage System: n/a Internet Connection: n/a
[05:40] <UnWorthy> Display System: 512MB Radeon X1650 Series (Omega 3.8.442) using a Plug and Play monitor at 1280 by 1024 32bit color 60Hz refresh
[05:40] <scoundrel> czr: 2.6.22-14-server, it sees all memory we have (PAE)
[05:40] <FloodBot1> UnWorthy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:40] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: this would NOT be a Ubuntu (or Linux for that matter) issue. I have had "hal.dll" mysteriously vanish within Virtual Machines, several times
[05:40] <cvd> linuxchick?
[05:40] <co_gokil> WE
[05:40] <czr> scoundrel, ok. have you tracked whether there's a single process/program that is responsible for the OOM or the memory leak is on the kernel side?
[05:40] <UnWorthy> really? just vanish?
[05:40] <co_gokil> TAI
[05:40] <co_gokil> ANJING
[05:40] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: well its a bit more complex then that,
[05:41] <UnWorthy> well then I'll install ubuntu right now...but first I'm going to read that fixmbr on ms' site
[05:41] <UnWorthy> how so WGGMK? thats what seemed to happen to mine...
[05:41] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: in my case, it was adding/removing software/hardware to the Virtual Machine.. My hardware configuration might have changed to fubar the installation.. This would be a windows specific issue though.
[05:41] <czr> scoundrel, sry, have to run (to office), hope you find a solution to the problem though. you might ask official ubuntu support?
[05:41] <me> jangari?
[05:41] <scoundrel> czr: I have logs here but wan't able to log in to the server to check things out. Anyways, on a 12gb machine one process simply could not saturate all memory.
[05:41] <UnWorthy> what version of VMware do you use?
[05:41] <me> dreamnid?
[05:42] <UnWorthy> or do you use something other than vmware?
[05:42] <czr> scoundrel, agreed, especially since you have PAE (32-bit)
[05:42] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: VMWare Server (the newest I suppose)
[05:42] <czr> scoundrel, and processes are still limited to 4GiB each with PAE.
[05:42] <UnWorthy> is it better than infastruture?
[05:42] <czr> scoundrel, I was thinking more of a longer term historical data collection/graphing about different processes and how memory usage evolves (ala rrdtool)
[05:42] <Jangari> me?
[05:42] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: regardless of what "caused" the problem (that you will have to narrow down yourself) the fix is to use the Windows disc to either repair or restore
[05:42] <czr> UnWorthy, join #vmware
[05:43] <xGeek> Why do you think that hal.dll has something to do with the MBR? I'm not following that part.
[05:43] <UnWorthy> well I'ma retard
[05:43] <scoundrel> czr: this is what I'm doing now - setting up monitoring of memory, cpu, etc for all these boxes
[05:43] <UnWorthy> thats why it has something to do with it
[05:43] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: as far as the differences, I cant help you out, Ive only used Workstation & Server.. Like czr: said, you'll get more info out of #vmware
[05:43] <UnWorthy> kk thanks
[05:44] <Shuggle> I'm trying to find more information about a problem a friend had when he tried to install ubuntu. He chose the guided installation to resize his existing windows partition. The installer removed his windows vista partition and installed using all the space. When it was finished, his computer would not boot, as if the boot loader had not been installed. Why would it do that?
[05:44] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: the MBR would not effect hal.dll (Hardware Abstraction Layer)
[05:44] <UnWorthy> I know hal.dll doesn't have anything to do with the MBR but I was reading somewhere that a fixmbr would help...
[05:44] <czr> scoundrel, good luck, that's what I'd start doing as well (dmesg not showing anything interesting probably either). you might also take a look at slabinfo and the kernel memory usage stuff. it could be a kernel memory leak as well.
[05:44] <tritium> Shuggle: which is it?  If he choise the resize, it wouldn't remove the existing partition.
[05:44] <czr> scoundrel, but I'll have to afk, so hope you find the culprit
[05:44] <UnWorthy> but now that I thinka bout it...maybe was fixin another problem...
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[05:45] <xGeek> oops. sorry.
[05:45] <Orion1357> Hi.  Using Synaptic, I removed Evolution.  Now when I log in, I get a blank screen.  Can this be fixed without having to reinstall ubuntu all over again.
[05:45] <WGGMk> UnWorthy: i dont see how it would... if your missing hal.dll your missing hal.dll.. fixing a Master Boot Record does nothing but effect a boot record.
[05:45] <fragged_> UnWorthy, I dont know where I read it but I've heard that hal.dll is an issue with certain distros, from what I can recall try just copying the hal.dll from the windows CD back to C:/Windows/(system32? Idk)
[05:45] <xGeek> UnWorthy: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314477
[05:45] <soneil> WGGMk: it's just because his partiton map has changed, boot.ini is out of date.  he just needs to start the recovery console, remove boot.ini, and bootcfg /rebuild.  it's nothing to do with ubuntu.   he just happens to have changed partitions in the process
[05:46] <xGeek> UnWorthy: Method 2 on that page almost always works.
[05:46] <Shuggle> tritium: He chose to resize since he specifically needed his windows installation. The installer then acted as if he chose to delete all data on the disk and then didnt install grub
[05:46] <WGGMk> soneil: as I said in one of my previous messages.. Linux (or any other OS) that is on a separate partition wouldnt effect each other
[05:47] <tritium> Shuggle: he must have made a mistake in his choice.  The installer doesn't do that.
[05:47] <WGGMk> soneil: as far as the boot.ini being out of date. your prolly right about that
[05:47] <eahls> is there a way to install ubuntu without burning it to a cd ? The cd drive on my laptop is broken and I have windows.
[05:47] <xGeek> WGGMk: resizing and/or moving the parition will cause the boot.ini partition path to not be set correct causing the "missing hal.dll" error
[05:48] <WGGMk> eahls: you can install it to a USB stick and boot from USB or you can order FREE CD's from ubuntu.com
[05:48] <soneil> WGGMk: yeah, it's not one OS affecting the other.  it's just windows freaking out because the disk layout has changed.  it's world has disappeared from beneath it's feet.  and it doesn't like that
[05:48] <xGeek> I need to invest in a usb extension or actually do something and connect the front ports on my computer.
[05:49] <eahls> ok thanks, im going to try getting to load off my usb drive
[05:49] <WGGMk> soneil: xGeek: if im not mistaken, a similar thing happens with other hardware components in Windows as well correct?
[05:49] <Orion1357> Well, if you are all busy with another topic, I'll come back another time.  But I'll ask one more time: Using Synaptic, I removed Evolution.  Now when I log in, I get a blank screen.  Can this be fixed without having to reinstall ubuntu all over again?
[05:49] <fragged_> mmm guys I'm playing around with OpenGL via PyGame and on feisty I couldnt get the text to draw from this example http://www.disruption.ca/gutil/example3/example3b.html to work, after a clean install of the latest Ubuntu distro all works fine, does anybody know which package was not functioning correctly? I'd like to know as I have a gentoo system that also has the same problem and a complete update of the system might take days
[05:49] <fragged_> :E
[05:49] <WGGMk> Orion1257: what else besides Evolution was removed?
[05:50] <Orion1357> I just removed packages that referenced Evolution, so it was more than one package.  But I don't remember which ones.
[05:50] <xGeek> WGGMk: I suppose. Not sure what you mean by hardware though.
[05:51] <WGGMk> xGeek: well I know if there's too many changes to the hardware config you have to re-activate windows sometimes