[12:47] <chaynie> mhall119: Time and time again I find you to be a more than worthy opponent for a battle of wits.
[12:51] <mhall119> :)
[12:51] <mhall119> though having to cross-post from G+ to Facebook is gonna confuse some people
[13:10] <chaynie> .. and then dicussing it on IRC even more so.
[14:15] <DammitJim> mhall119, MichelleQ ping
[14:23] <mhall119> DammitJim: pong
[14:30] <DammitJim> mhall119, what model jayco did you say you got?
[19:31] <dorgan> ok hopefully someone in here can help me :)
[19:32] <dorgan> I have a tar file that is 174GB and I am trying to untar it however when it runs it only extract one 300 byte file
[19:32] <dorgan> and when i do tar -tvf backup.tar   it just shows the one file
[19:57] <chaynie> tar bomb?
[19:57] <chaynie> or a corrupted tarball.
[19:58] <dorgan> hmm looks ok now
[19:59] <dorgan> tar -xv backup.tar   seems to be just sitting there but i would assume that means its working
[19:59] <dorgan> i am assuming its trying to read the file
[20:00] <dorgan> am i correct to assume that?
[20:38] <danstoner> dorgan: do you need
[20:38] <danstoner> tar -xvf backup.tar
[20:38] <dorgan> yeah its ok we killed the process
[20:38] <dorgan> i'll worry about backups when we actually have a server we can restore them on
[20:39] <dorgan> the only problem with rackspace cloud servers is the fact that you need to scale up one level at least in order to do the restore, because you need double the space
[20:39] <danstoner> dorgan: I have the same issue with my VPS provider
[20:40] <dorgan> i am hoping once they get block level storage this will no longer be an issue
[20:40] <danstoner> although billing is completely pro-rated to it is no biggie to roll up a machine for a few days.
[20:41] <dorgan> it can be when you need to go from a 8GB ram instance to 16GB


[01:44] <beatbreaker> Ok, so i'm having some problems with networking on my MythBuntu frontend, netowrking will not work up until i get onto the desktop, and i know the service starts way before that
[04:51] <MythbuntuGuest63> !help
[04:51] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[04:53] <MythbuntuGuest63> hello just had a question about setting up mythbuntu, I've been having a problem with the mythtv setup, which just opens solid grey boxes or just the outline of the box with no text or visible buttons so I can only exit the setup by pressing randomly.  I updated everything that came up under update manager and installed msttcorefonts as well.  I still can't figure out why the setup isnt displaying
[05:34] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest63, are you using an ati driver?
[05:47] <MythbuntuGuest63> i installed using the open source driver but my video card is ati
[05:48] <MythbuntuGuest63> i first tried installing with the 'amd driver' option but when mythbuntu started up it wasnt displaying properly and i couldnt do anything with the system so i reinstalled using the open source driver
[06:03] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest63, there is a bug with the open source driver
[06:03] <superm1> bug 381648 i think
[06:03] <Zinn> Bug 381648 in gnome-applets (Ubuntu) "Karmic: Adding system-monitor applet to panel fails to work properly" [Low, Invalid] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/381648
[06:03] <superm1> no..
[06:04] <superm1> bug 341898
[06:04] <superm1> there is a workaround posted in the bug
[06:04] <Zinn> Bug 341898 in mythtv "(Needs mesa 529d1d72) MythTV Frontend does not work with RADEON DRI" [Unknown, Invalid] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/341898
[06:05] <MythbuntuGuest63> oh i see
[06:05] <MythbuntuGuest63> thanks ill have a read
[06:07] <superm1> look near the bottom because the old PPA workaround isn't applicable
[06:09] <MythbuntuGuest63> ok thanks, wow i guess linux + nvidia really is a lot better
[06:09] <superm1> well at some point this bug will be sorted out and -ati won't be half bad
[06:09] <superm1> but nvidia does provide hardware acceleration that ati doesn't
[06:12] <MythbuntuGuest63> hm which ill probably need given my system specs
[06:13] <MythbuntuGuest63> sorry one other question (quite new to linux), if im adding lines to .sh files, what command am i supposed to use in the command prompt?
[06:15] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest63, i'd open up the editor, "mousepad" on mythbuntu
[06:15] <superm1> gksudo mousepad FILE
[06:15] <superm1> it's a shame you're new and getting a soiled experience because of this bug though :(
[06:18] <MythbuntuGuest63> haha yes it is a bit discouraging, especially for a beginner to troubleshoot
[07:16] <Shadow__X> who was looking for a dell mini 9
[07:19] <Shadow__X> oops wrong room
[10:00] <madLyfe> what are the couple lines of code i have to edit into a file to get myth tv to work cuz i have an ati video card?
[18:16] <wombo> http://images.google.com.au/images?q=ugly%20lady&oe=utf-8&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi
[18:16] <wombo> < There is some motivation for you
[19:55] <orificium> Can MythWeb be used on the latest trunk from the weekly builds?
[20:02] <superm1> should be
[20:17] <orificium> I'm getting an error saying it can't access the data directory.  I wanted to make sure it was fixable before I dove in deeper.
[20:18] <superm1> there is a bug with that actually that is fixed with next week's builds
[20:18] <superm1> and will  be fixed in karmic
[20:18] <superm1> that directory just needs to be owned by www-data
[20:18] <orificium> which directory is it referring to?
[20:18] <orificium> something I can chmod on I assume?
[20:19] <superm1> chown rather than chmod i think
[20:19] <superm1> look at the last commit to lp:~ubuntu-mythtv/mythplugins/mythplugins-0.22 i think for bzr
[20:20] <superm1> and you can see how it gets fixed
[20:27] <orificium> Do I have to fix those links? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythplugins/mythplugins-trunk-022/revision/97
[20:27] <orificium> I see the chgrp www-data  on /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/data
[20:27] <orificium> and chmod 775
[20:29] <orificium> Ultimately I'd like to try out that MythTV for the iPhone web app
[20:35] <superm1> you don't have to fix the links too, that was just a side effect of the way it was done
[20:35] <superm1> just chgrp and chmod


[11:58] <thom> oh gods
[11:59] <cjwatson> (trying to open up installer development)
[02:20] <mark> :)
[02:21] <mark> is there much need for diversification from d-i?
[02:22] <cjwatson> some, yeah; I try to keep it down
[02:22] <cjwatson> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallerDevelopment has a few examples
[02:27] <allmanj> hey - i followed the customizing the install cd instructions about playing with apt-ftparchive but the installer keeps complaining about a lack of an installable kernel. The syslog talks about GET base-installer/kernel/override-image and GET base-installer/kernel/image-2.6 and then says "Found kernels ''
[02:28] <allmanj> Packages lists linux-image-386
[02:28] <allmanj> and linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-386
[02:29] <allmanj> the latter appears to provide linux-image which it appears is what base-installer is looking for
[02:29] <allmanj> i'm a little out of my element though. any ideas?
[02:34] <cjwatson> could I see all the syslog messages prefixed with "base-installer", please?
[02:34] <cjwatson> provides aren't important
[02:38] <allmanj> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36424/
[02:38] <allmanj> i just grepped for base-installer
[02:39] <allmanj> ah - it's the signature...
[02:39] <allmanj> i can probably fix this...
[02:44] <cjwatson> ah, yes, dapper required that
[02:44] <cjwatson> that should be fixed in edgy (though untested)
[02:44] <cjwatson> you'll need to fudge ubuntu-archive-keyring and the udeb
[02:45] <cjwatson> alternatively, you could extend the base-installer.d kludge ...
[02:45] <cjwatson> mkdir -p /target/etc/apt/apt.conf.d
[02:45] <cjwatson>         cat > /target/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00trustcdrom <<EOT
[02:45] <cjwatson> APT::Authentication::TrustCDROM "true";
[02:45] <cjwatson> EOT
[02:45] <cjwatson> (sorry about crap indentation)
[02:46] <cjwatson> I'm not absolutely sure that that apt configuration key works in dapper, though, so you'd need to check
[02:46] <allmanj> i'll try the documented way to do the signing first...
[02:47] <cjwatson> yeah, mine is only if you want to be a crash test dummy :)
[02:53] <allmanj> fixed signing (i think). hopefully that'll do it...
[02:53] <allmanj> if not i'll trawl through the syslog myself before bothering you!
[02:56] <cjwatson> don't worry, the syslog is very verbose and sometimes I can make a more educated guess :)
[03:06] <allmanj> looks like it did the trick! booting into the system now to see if it's all good...
[03:06] <cjwatson> excellent
[03:07] <cjwatson> I really want to make sure at some point that that isn't an issue from edgy on
[03:07] <cjwatson> the signed CDs business was a bit of a mistake
[03:40] <allmanj> all looks good on this cd - that was the problem
[03:41] <cjwatson> good to hear
[07:17] <allmanj> is late_command run before users are created or something?
[07:23] <cjwatson> no
[07:23] <cjwatson> er, let me double-check
[07:25] <cjwatson> I tell a lie; in dapper it was. this was changed in Debian before edgy
[07:27] <allmanj> curses. so i'll have to use late_command to create another script to be run after the users have been made?
[08:13] <zul> hey
[10:34] <LaserJock> cjwatson: so are you around?
[10:35] <LaserJock> cjwatson: nvm, I'll catch you at a better time, just wanted to chat about ubiquity modularity


[11:15] <cjwatson> xnox: what's up with verifying the last two ubiquity/precise bugs?
[11:15] <cjwatson> I need to turn off builds from -proposed today, ideally
[11:17] <xnox> cjwatson: i believe all is verified. Let me check it.
[11:19] <xnox> cjwatson: will verify desktop background bug in a second.
[11:20] <cjwatson> also partman-crypto
[11:22] <xnox> ack.
[11:35] <cjwatson> Hmm, not liking the look of http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/precise/alternate/amd64/20140203/6410/
[11:35] <cjwatson> I think those might just be timeouts though
[11:36] <cjwatson> psivaa: ^- is it possible to extend the timeouts on those?
[11:38] <cjwatson> xnox: also, did you have a chance to get wubi sorted out for .4?
[11:39] <xnox> cjwatson: i have .4 wubi build, didn't test it in a windows VM yet.
[11:40] <xnox> cjwatson: ubiquity bugs verified.
[11:40] <cjwatson> thanks
[11:41] <cjwatson> driving point releases: not my favourite thing
[11:51] <psivaa> cjwatson: ack, will take do.
[14:07] <psivaa> cjwatson: starting from 20140129, trusty server minimal installs for amd64 is now ~37MB larger than the i386 ones.
[14:07] <psivaa> it is roughly 32MB overhead that is being used in the smoke tests.
[14:08] <psivaa> i could not find the package that started the bloat.
[14:08] <psivaa> dont know the significance either. but could adjust the smoke test if this is not a big issue
[14:12] <cjwatson> psivaa: best start by asking the server team
[14:12] <psivaa> cjwatson: ack
[14:12] <cjwatson> they can always pass the buck to me if they think it's an installer issue, but I think it's generally better to start with the product teams
[14:16] <psivaa> ack, thanks. asked there.. some of them are not online. probably due to freenode issue. will post back again
[17:38] <xnox> cjwatson: verified partman-crypto.
[17:40] <cjwatson> yay
[18:01] <xnox> cjwatson: i've tested wubi build, it's all good, but precise is still using livefs builds.
[18:01] <xnox> cjwatson: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/precise/wubi/current/
[18:01] <cjwatson> I think that's expected isn't it?
[18:01] <xnox> cjwatson: yes, however last build is from 22 august with raring enablement stack.
[18:02] <cjwatson> there are newer builds but for some reason the pending/current links aren't being updated
[18:02] <cjwatson> go up a level
[18:03] <cjwatson> hm, those builds failed
[18:05] <xnox> cjwatson: so it all works, but e.g. lsb-release says it's 12.04.3 and there are 350MB of updates to download.
[18:05] <cjwatson> Yeah, some kind of strange cdimage failure
[18:05] <cjwatson> No doubt my fault
[18:05] <xnox> cjwatson: I'll fire off signing that wubi.exe, but a fresher build would be nice. Will retest with e.g. signed wubi.
[18:06] <xnox> (12.04.4 is printed in the updated wubi build)
[18:06] <xnox> etc.
[18:06] <cjwatson> I suspect I broke it when I rewrote cdimage in python
[18:06] <cjwatson> hm, except that that was much longer ago
[18:07] <xnox> cjwatson: maybe commented out of cron? as it's  only precise that's left building that product.
[18:07] <xnox> (or not triggered via iso dashboard)
[18:07] <cjwatson> no it's definitely not that, it's actually failing
[18:09] <cjwatson> but I'm about to be called away for the day by the sounds of things
[23:32] <xnox> cjwatson_: signed wubi is in place: http://people.canonical.com/~xnox/wubi/precise/wubi-r280-precise-signed.exe.asc & http://people.canonical.com/~xnox/wubi/precise/wubi-r280-precise-signed.exe
[23:33] <xnox> cjwatson_: please set it up into ~ubuntu-archive


[10:56] <lorenzo> imma secure freak hehehe but thanx
[10:56] <spiregrain> ipchains are *so* 2.4
[10:56] <tonyyarusso> dabaR, Ah.
[10:56] <dabaR> teroedni: recipe for breakage
[10:56] <polpak> spiregrain, 2.2 even ;p
[10:56] <teroedni> dabar:I am good at that;)
[10:57] <polpak> teroedni, blender has some good tutorials on their site
[10:57] <Xer0_h4x> Ubuntu is soo in!
[10:57] <shep> dabar, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6467
[10:57] <Eleaf> teroedni, lol.  Middle click moves around in 3d space ;).  It is extremely hard at first.  You really should got to blender.org and find some tutorials even though many are old
[10:57] <Xer0_h4x> its hit new thing
[10:57] <Xer0_h4x> its the new black
[10:57] <Xer0_h4x> xD
[10:57] <polpak> Xer0_h4x, it's so jerkin!
[10:57] <teroedni> Eleaf :Will do that Thanks
[10:57] <teroedni> and Thanks Polpak
[10:57] <Xer0_h4x> its....'Hip'
[10:57] <Xer0_h4x> xD
[10:58] <dabaR> shep: is it windows files on that drive?
[10:58] <thegladiator> hi
[10:58] <polpak> thegladiator, hola
[10:58] <thegladiator> how do i install PSM for mozilla internet application suite ?
[10:58] <andrew_> i'm very surprised not to see gourmet recipe manager in the repos, since that's a great desktop program.  am i missing something?
[10:59] <Xer0_h4x> andrew_: what is it?
[10:59] <redguy> thegladiator: PSM? what is that?
[10:59] <shep> dabar, yeah, well, mostly media
[10:59] <thegladiator> personal security manager
[10:59] <dabaR> !ntfs
[10:59] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[10:59] <dabaR> shep^
[10:59] <andrew_> Xer0_h4x, it's a recipe program where you can create/edit/print cooking recipes and create shopping lists from them.
[10:59] <polpak> andrew_, I've thought about developing one.. But never got around to nailing down the specs
[11:00] <Xer0_h4x> andrew_: like pen and paper on linux?
[11:00] <Xer0_h4x> ^_^
[11:00] <shep> dabar, gracias
[11:00] <shep> dabar, one more question if you don't mind
[11:00] <andrew_> Xer0_h4x, sure... uninstall beagle and forget your webbrowser; you can get all the information you need at the library.
[11:00] <Pygi> andrew: ping
[11:00] <dabaR> shep: or you could do it manually, but it is more involved, and I hate typing.
[11:01] <andrew_> hey Pygi
[11:01] <Pygi> ho, DabaR :)
[11:01] <andrew_> polpak, i'd be interested in doing it but ubuntu package management is one of those mysteries of the universe. :)
[11:01] <Xer0_h4x> andrew_: point well said :)
[11:01] <shep> dabar, any idea on how to get my wirless keyboard/mouse to be recognized?
[11:01] <Sturgeon> EOG can't display jpg files, it says it doesn't recognize the file format, anyone knows why?
[11:01] <thegladiator> mozilla internet applicatiopn suite or simply mozilla borwser asks me for PSM if i need to acess my gmail or yahoo mail !hwop can i reolve this ?? i like moz over the buggy firefox
[11:01] <Sturgeon> Please?
[11:01] <thegladiator> can someone enlighten me ?
[11:01] <andrew_> Xer0_h4x, it's really very nice, kinda as meta-organized like f-spot is with photos (for example)
[11:01] <dabaR> shep: no.
[11:02] <Xer0_h4x> Sturgeon: ooooo url?
[11:02] <Pygi> btw. andrew, I've made this, so use it if needed :)
[11:02] <Pygi> !wait in line
[11:02] <ubotu> wait in line is probably like, there are a lot of question...and only few of us who can answer... please be patient and wait....
[11:02] <shep> dabar, thanks anyway
[11:02] <Sturgeon> Xer0_h4x: what?
[11:02] <andrew_> Pygi, lol
[11:02] <Dwayne> shep--check your bios settings..that's how I had to do mine..
[11:02] <Xer0_h4x> oops
[11:02] <Xer0_h4x> andrew_: url?
[11:02] <Pygi> on the other hand, read your pm, or private or whateva'
[11:02] <shep> dwayne, k, thanks
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> thegladiator: Buggy Firefox?
[11:02] <dabaR> bok -
[11:02] <illilwrder> hello all again, i'm having issues installing the demo version of crossover office, can anyone help please?
[11:02] <Dwayne> shep: yw..
[11:03] <andrew_> Xer0_h4x, http://grecipe-manager.sourceforge.net/
[11:03] <Xer0_h4x> thx
[11:03] <Pygi> andrew: ping, wake up
[11:03] <illilwrder> and also using GAIM it says the password or SN is incorrect, but it should be
[11:03] <Pygi> no, do not use Gaim :/
[11:03] <andrew_> Pygi, ironically, i've only been here because i installed ubuntu for my parents... though i am seriously thinking about switching to it on my home computer.
[11:03] <bluefoxicy> uhh
[11:03] <bluefoxicy> uhh
[11:03] <thegladiator> tonyyarusso, pretty much at my end . it cloess very often without any warning
[11:03] <bluefoxicy> UHH
[11:03] <mrkoje> illilwrder,  where did you get a demo version? I have been looking for that.
[11:03] <bluefoxicy> My rhythmbox 0.9.2 in Ubuntu Dapper makes clicking noises when it changes songs
[11:03] <andrew_> Pygi, but i don't think i'll be switching away from gaim. :-P
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> thegladiator, What version?
[11:04] <jrattner1> What is dapper?
[11:04] <bluefoxicy> like when you click to open a folder and it goes bumpbump
[11:04] <illilwrder> just on the site
[11:04] <andrew_> !dapper
[11:04] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[11:04] <bluefoxicy> it does that when it automatically changes songs
[11:04] <Pygi> andrew: no, do NOT use Gaim.... :P
[11:04] <thegladiator> 1.0.7
[11:04] <polpak> andrew_,  you can always suggest grecipe be added to the universe repos by the motu guys
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> Pygi: You use?
[11:04] <weinberg> Hi good afternoon
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> thegladiator, From Mozilla or Ubuntu repo?
[11:04] <SirKillalot> is there a tutorial how to install kde on my gnome ubuntu machine? ( I want to run kde beside gnome)
[11:04] <Pygi> tonyyarusso: nothin' yet :P wait, time will tell :)
[11:05] <andrew_> polpak, i shall... i assume information on how to do that is on the wiki?
[11:05] <polpak> SirKillalot, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:05] <krystoff> hi there ...happy new year !!!!!!!!!!
[11:05] <weinberg> Please i have a doud i instal for first time ubunto and i need to install the sount
[11:05] <thegladiator> tonyyarusso, ubuntu . i havent tried the latest yet .
[11:05] <SirKillalot> polpak, will it affect my current installation negatively?
[11:05] <weinberg> o don't have idea
[11:05] <spiregrain> you could always try krecipes...
[11:05] <krystoff> please i've forgot the link for the sources.list
[11:05] <polpak> andrew_, I'm pretty sure it's on the motu wiki
[11:05] <spiregrain> unless that's agains your religion
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> thegladiator, (Curious because 1.07 from both Mozilla for Windows and Ubuntu repo was fantastic for me, and I've had one issue so far with 1.5 from Mozilla on Linux.)
[11:05] <andrew_> spiregrain, sure, if you want to install the base KDE libs... but i don't.
[11:05] <SirKillalot> polpak, I do not want to mess my whole system :-/
[11:06] <polpak> SirKillalot, it won't
[11:06] <andrew_> spiregrain, no religion discussion here though. :)
[11:06] <krystoff> !ubotu repos
[11:06] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[11:06] <andrew_> spiregrain, i used opera for a long time.
[11:06] <polpak> !sources
[11:06] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:06] <thegladiator> tonyyarusso, i am afraid with my FF has closed on more than one occasion and that really forced me to try mozilla internet app suite
[11:06] <krystoff> thx :)
[11:07] <andrew_> thegladiator, you could try one of the mozilla-using browsers--epiphany or galeon, for example.
[11:07] <Manifold> Guys, in the Ubuntu File Browser, how do I add files to the  Places sidebar?
[11:07] <wizardjames> i have a prob , wavpack music files are not being noticed. on my install of ubuntu.   xmms , amarok , juk wont desply them in the list.    like it does not know what a .wv file is
[11:07] <andrew_> thegladiator, arguably they fit in with a GNOME desktop better anyway. ^_^
[11:07] <thegladiator> true :)
[11:07] <andrew_> Manifold, browse to that folder and bookmark it on the bookmarks menu.
[11:07] <thegladiator> tehre are some issues with ephi , i shall try galeon
[11:07] <krystoff> do you know a place where i can find a tuto about pine and ubuntu ?
[11:08] <Shadyman> !pine
[11:08] <ubotu> Shadyman: Are you smoking crack?
[11:08] <andrew_> Manifold, but it's really the GNOME file browser, to be technical. ;-)
[11:08] <Manifold> Sorry.
[11:08] <Manifold> My mistake.
[11:08] <Manifold> :D
[11:08] <andrew_> Manifold, no worries at all. :)
[11:08] <andrew_> Shadyman, lol
[11:09] <Pygi> !wait in line
[11:09] <ubotu> well, wait in line is like, there are a lot of question...and only few of us who can answer... please be patient and wait....
[11:09] <tonyyarusso> If someone had a server install and then installed a ?ubuntu-desktop package, would they have to set up anything or do something special to access the graphical version after that?
[11:09] <mite> http://www.crazyass-irc.net/qdb.php?84
[11:09] <dabaR> Pygi: rename to patience?
[11:09] <Blissex> tonyyarusso: not really....
[11:09] <andrew_> dabaR, maybe use both?
[11:09] <weinberg> Alguien de aqui habla espaol
[11:09] <Pygi> dabaR: I would, if I knew how :/
[11:09] <weinberg> ?
[11:09] <teroedni> question.When you installing ubuntu from cd is it possible to get into console before proceding with network install?
[11:10] <dabaR> ubotu: forget wait in line
[11:10] <ubotu> i forgot wait in line, dabaR
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> Blissex, Will they need to add it to their startup scripts, or is it already?
[11:10] <Pygi> huh,k,
[11:10] <Pygi> I'll add now
[11:10] <bshumate>
[11:10] <dabaR> ubotu: patience is there are a lot of question...and only few of us who can answer... please be patient and wait....
[11:10] <ubotu> okay, dabaR
[11:10] <Pygi> !patience
[11:11] <ubotu> patience is probably there are a lot of question...and only few of us who can answer... please be patient and wait....
[11:11] <andrew_> dabaR, *a lot of questions
[11:11] <Chousuke> Hmm
[11:11] <Pygi> ubotu: forget patience
[11:11] <ubotu> i forgot patience, Pygi
[11:11] <Shadyman> hehe
[11:11] <Shadyman> !patience
[11:11] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Shadyman
[11:11] <Shadyman> aw
[11:11] <dabaR> ubotu: tell Pygi about msg the bot
[11:11] <Pygi> ubotu: patience there is a lot of questions...and only few of us can answer...please be patient and wait...
[11:11] <ubotu> okay, Pygi
[11:11] <dabaR> ubotu: no, patience is there are a lot of questions...and only few of us who can answer... please be patient and wait....
[11:11] <ubotu> okay, dabaR
[11:12] <Chousuke> ubotu: no, patience is <reply> There are a lot of questions, but only a few answerers. Please be patient.
[11:12] <ubotu> okay, Chousuke
[11:12] <Chousuke> !patience
[11:12] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only a few answerers. Please be patient.
[11:12] <andrew_> answerers???
[11:12] <Pygi> huh :/
[11:12] <andrew_> O_o
[11:12] <Pygi> strange word :/
[11:12] <Chousuke> someone who answers :)
[11:12] <andrew_> :-P
[11:13] <gerald-volt> is it possible that ubunut can cause more heat in my cpu than in windows?
[11:13] <Shadyman> Well it coulda said "wisemen" or "mystics" :P
[11:13] <Chousuke> heh
[11:13] <Chousuke> gerald-volt: is it a laptop?
[11:13] <Pygi> ubotu: no, patience is <reply> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[11:13] <ubotu> okay, Pygi
[11:13] <andrew_> Shadyman, or R0><0RZ r00t hax0rz!
[11:13] <Pygi> !patience
[11:13] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[11:13] <Pygi> there we go :)
[11:13] <gerald-volt> nope, it's a normal computer
[11:13] <dabaR> !+msg the bot
[11:13] <ubotu> rumour has it, msg the bot is please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. /msg ubotu keyword, or especially if you do not know whether some factoid exists.
[11:13] <Chousuke> That's better.
[11:13] <andrew_> Pygi, i like.
[11:14] <Pygi> dabaR: I know :)
[11:14] <gerald-volt> and I can't check my cpu temp in linux because I don't have anythingn in my thermal_zone directory
[11:14] <meta> hey guys
[11:14] <Pygi> everyone OK with that type of ubotu speaking?
[11:14] <polpak> Pygi, sounds fine to me
[11:14] <meta> i'm an ubuntu noob ... got a couple of q's
[11:14] <Shadyman> Well, the "rumor has it" part gets a bit repetitive, but hey
[11:14] <spiregrain> !botsnak
[11:14] <ubotu> spiregrain: What?
[11:14] <spiregrain> drat
[11:15] <tonyyarusso> !botsnack
[11:15] <ubotu> thanks tonyyarusso :)
[11:15] <Pygi> Shady: well, we can't remove it :P
[11:15] <andrew_> does anyone know how to change the date and time on a file?
[11:15] <Goldfisch> Never trust a rumor. :)
[11:15] <Shadyman> Pygi: Figured.
[11:15] <Shadyman> !botsnack
[11:15] <Pygi> goldfisch: lol :)
[11:15] <Draken> wats cmd to reconfig Xorg ?
[11:15] <SirKillalot> if I want to remove "gwenview" with "apt-get remove" it wants to remove my whole kubuntu-desktop!! how can I make it just remove gwenview?
[11:15] <Shadyman> Oh well. back to reading.
[11:15] <polpak> meta, no meta questions pls.. Just ask your questions and someone will answer
[11:15] <Chousuke> SirKillalot: kubuntu-desktop can be safely removed
[11:15] <Kyral> SirKillalot: kubuntu-desktop is just a metaackage. Its not even a software
[11:16] <Pygi> gnomefreak: Ping
[11:16] <Kyral> SirKillalot: It just exists to pull in other packages
[11:16] <Draken> wats cmd to reconfig Xorg ?
[11:16] <meta> got a quick q: does ubuntu come w/ a samba server?
[11:16] <gerald-volt> anyone know how I can check my cpu temperature, I don' t have anything in my thermal_zone directory
[11:16] <SirKillalot> but I do not want my desktop to be removed, well its secure?
[11:16] <andrew_> Draken, don't repeat; i'm looking up sth.
[11:16] <Draken> ta
[11:16] <Kyral> Draken: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:16] <polpak> SirKillalot, but if you remove kubuntu-desktop you may have trouble with dist-upgrades
[11:16] <Goldfisch> You can always use synaptic to list what files are associated with your installed packages. That can help you assess the impact of removing a package.
[11:16] <yaaar> word
[11:16] <SirKillalot> see-.
[11:16] <Kyral> polpak: not really lol
[11:17] <andrew_> Kyral, thanks; i forgot the package name. :)  Draken, what Kyral said. :)
[11:17] <SirKillalot> Kyral, can I remove it?
[11:17] <tonyyarusso> SirKillalot, Chousuke, Kyral, I've had that happen too, with ubuntu-desktop.  On my next boot everything was busted.  Ended up starting over.   I'm looking for a real cheap card that will do spdif to my 5.1 stereo
[11:18] <Draken> ta guys
[11:18] <Chousuke> SirKillalot: It's not really complicated.
[11:18] <Xer0_h4x> i'm helping him in another room :)
[11:18] <andrew_> Draken, sounds like you have 5 people wanting to help you. :-P
[11:18] <Xer0_h4x> SirKillalot: Scott?
[11:18] <deejoe_> apologies to those who've seen this earlier:  ok, in GNOME/metacity I can go to System, Log Off... and then choose hibernate.  question is, how can I hibernate from the command line?  the "hibernate" command doesn't seem to be the thing.
[11:18] <Xer0_h4x> oops
[11:18] <Xer0_h4x> wrong person
[11:18] <yaaar> thinking about the sb live series, but i'm still confused as to whether the spdif works right in linux....what i've been able to google is inconclusive
[11:18] <meta> which package mgr does ubuntu use? i reckon its not rpm.
[11:18] <Chousuke> dpkg
[11:18] <Kyral> meta: Apt-Get
[11:18] <polpak> meta, it uses deb
[11:18] <Chousuke> well, dpkg/APT
[11:19] <SirKillalot> are the ubuntu repos already kde 3.5?
[11:19] <polpak> meta, apt is the repo manager, dpkg is the package manager
[11:19] <Manifold> Is root indicated by several slashes?
[11:19] <Manifold> // ?
[11:19] <Kyral> polpak: Apt-Get is the Package Manager
[11:19] <chapium> SirKillalot, it should tell you in the details on synaptic
[11:19] <Chousuke> is root
[11:19] <Chousuke> ////// is root too, actually. ;P
[11:19] <tonyyarusso> deejoe_, I can do it with /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh, but there's gotta be a better way.  My keyboard shortcut's busted.
[11:19] <meta> k, thnx.guys.
[11:19] <Manifold> Any number of slashes?
[11:19] <Chousuke> yeah
[11:19] <deejoe_> tonyyarusso: thanks
[11:19] <Manifold> Xchat doesn't recognise it.
[11:20] <Manifold> :/
[11:20] <Chousuke> try ls /////
[11:20] <krystoff> hi please postfix is the same stuff that nbsmtp right ?
[11:20] <yaaar> anybody around here have experience with sound blaste live cards using spdif?
[11:20] <Manifold> LOAD -e /mnt/hda5/Vital Documents/Miranda IM/Plugin/xchat.txt
[11:20] <Manifold> That should work right?
[11:20] <Chousuke> hm
[11:20] <Chousuke> it has spaces
[11:20] <SirKillalot> what's the url for the ubnutu web repo browser?
[11:20] <Chousuke> you need to escape spaces
[11:20] <Chousuke> with \
[11:20] <Chousuke> like /This\ has\ spaces/
[11:21] <Manifold> I stick that in the middle of spaces.
[11:21] <Kyral> SirKillalot: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:21] <Chousuke> single quotes or double quotes might work too
[11:21] <polpak> Chousuke, or you can use '/This has spaces/'
[11:21] <polpak> Chousuke, or even /'This has spaces'/
[11:21] <Chousuke> polpak: not always though.
[11:22] <Manifold> I'll give it shot.
[11:22] <polpak> Chousuke, it does in bash
[11:22] <Chousuke> yeah, but this was xchat
[11:22] <Draken> can someone help me, i just installed new nvidia drivers, but now i cant get into X, the error log says something about NO SCREENs, and NVIDIA kernel module not found or something
[11:22] <Manifold> Argh.
[11:22] <Manifold> Doesn't work
[11:22] <Manifold> Hm,
[11:22] <yaaar> Draken: do 'lsmod | grep nv'
[11:23] <polpak> Manifold, just make a symlink to the directory that doesn't use spaces
[11:23] <polpak> Manifold, and reference the file that way
[11:23] <yaaar> Draken: do you see the line for the nvidia driver?
[11:23] <deejoe_> tonyyarusso: worked for me.  thanks again.
[11:23] <Manifold> Now.. what is a symlink?
[11:23] <polpak> man ln
[11:23] <Draken> ya yaaar
[11:23] <polpak> Manifold, or better still you can make a symlink to the file directly
[11:23] <Draken> nvidia      4568636
[11:24] <Kr0ntab> see yas....
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> In Bluefish, whenever I type a paired tag it automatically puts its closer after it.  Given the way I do things, this gets really annoying; I'd rather just type all of it myself.  How do I turn it off?
[11:24] <yaaar> Draken: hmm
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> That's for HTML, btw.
[11:24] <yaaar> Draken: and do 'grep nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[11:24] <Manifold>  DESCRIPTION
[11:24] <Manifold> symlink creates a symbolic link named NewPath which contains the string OldPath.
[11:24] <Manifold> Aha.
[11:24] <yaaar> Draken: that says "Device: nvidia" or something similar? i.e. not device: nv
[11:24] <Manifold> What's the difference between that and a win32 shortcut then?
[11:25] <Draken> ya
[11:25] <Draken> its set to nvidia, not nv
[11:25] <tonyyarusso> Manifold, Things can reference the symlink as if it were actually the file.
[11:25] <polpak> Manifold, a symlink is part of the filesystem
[11:25] <yaaar> Draken: right. well, that is a bit odd.
[11:25] <yaaar> Draken: or rather, it's odd that it's not working...those are setup ok.
[11:25] <Draken> ya
[11:25] <andrew_> is there a default group that encompasses both adm and users?
[11:26] <Draken> but isnt there a pkg called nvidia-module or something
[11:26] <Draken> maybe i need it
[11:26] <yaaar> Draken: how did you install the nvidia drivers? from linux-restricted-modules?
[11:26] <Manifold> Error while linking.. Error "Operation not permitted" while creating a link to "/mnt/hda5/V.../xchat.txt".
[11:26] <Draken> ya, got them from there
[11:26] <Manifold> o_O
[11:26] <Manifold> Do I need root access or something?
[11:26] <yaaar> Draken: one sec...
[11:26] <tonyyarusso> Manifold, Probably, sudo it.
[11:26] <polpak> Manifold, you need write access to the directory you're making the symlink in
[11:27] <Manifold> I do though.
[11:27] <polpak> Manifold,  you shouldn't need root access
[11:27] <Manifold> I just wrote that file.
[11:27] <polpak> Manifold, what was the command you used?
[11:27] <bulio> how can I use fluxbox in ubuntu?
[11:27] <Manifold> I right clicked it in GNOME file browser.
[11:27] <ara> i have a folder on my desktop which has a little "lock" symbol on it and i can't delete it, what's the command to take that lock off?
[11:27] <Manifold> > create link
[11:27] <Grackshrike> Is there anything I can do about window "streaking" in X? When I drag a window across another window, like a dialog across firefox, it causes the edge of the window to be repeated until the firefox screen redraws. Is there any way to improve performance so that doesn't happen? I'm running Ubuntu Breezy on a 1.2GHz VIA EPIA with eVGA nvidia GeForce MX4000 64MB graphics.
[11:28] <Pygi> !patience
[11:28] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[11:28] <yaaar> Draken: for now you can get X back real quick by just editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changing that device line from "nvidia" to "nv"
[11:28] <andrew_> Pygi, :) putting it to good use
[11:28] <Pygi> andrew: huh :P
[11:28] <polpak> Manifold, open a terminal
[11:28] <Draken> ya i know yaaar, but with nv drivers, my x crashs and freezes randomly ;/
[11:28] <Manifold> Have done, polpak
[11:28] <yaaar> Draken: really?
[11:28] <Draken> ya ;/
[11:28] <Grackshrike> bulio, install fluxbox through apt, then edit your .xinitrc so that it says 'exec fluxbox'.
[11:29] <yaaar> Draken: what kind of card is this?
[11:29] <polpak> Manifold, cd to the directory you want the link in (probably your home directory)
[11:29] <Draken> 6600gt
[11:29] <bulio> Grackshrike: Thats all?
[11:29] <Grackshrike> Yeah. You can remove a lot of the gnome stuff if you want...
[11:29] <yaaar> Draken: has it worked properly in other environments (i.e. windows or some other linux?)
[11:29] <Draken> windows 100%
[11:29] <dotrig> How i install vlc on ubuntu..
[11:29] <dotrig> Cant find good trres
[11:29] <polpak> ara, right click the folder and look at the permissions
[11:29] <Draken> there was some stuff on nvidia forums about this problem
[11:29] <yaaar> Draken: what arch you on?
[11:29] <dotrig> tree's
[11:29] <tonyyarusso> Can I turn off HTML paired tag autocompletion in Bluefish?  (And how?)
[11:29] <Draken> 64bit
[11:30] <yaaar> Draken: amd?
[11:30] <Draken> ya
[11:30] <yaaar> yeah
[11:30] <yaaar> hmm
[11:30] <Stormx2> Hey all. I'm back on windows for now.
[11:30] <ara> polpak, then?
[11:30] <Manifold> Done it,  polpak
[11:30] <dotrig> Can one say how i install vlc?..
[11:30] <Manifold> Had to figure out how to use it.
[11:30] <polpak> ara, who's the owner of the dir
[11:30] <Manifold> Is it CD /root ?
[11:30] <Stormx2> dotrig: apt-get install vlc?
[11:30] <Sionide> dotrig, sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:30] <yoni> Hello, I'm new to Ubuntu. I'm trying to build cinepaint however when i run ./configure I get "error: *** TIFF dev lib not found ***
[11:30] <yoni> "
[11:30] <Grackshrike> dotrig, enable ubuntu universe and install it using apt,
[11:30] <polpak> Manifold, lowercase, and you probably don't want it in roots home dir
[11:30] <ara> polpak. root
[11:31] <Grackshrike> dotrig, look in the wiki to find out how to enable the universe sources
[11:31] <Crazy_Man> everyone should have universe and multiverse repos enabled IMHO
[11:31] <Pygi> !repos
[11:31] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[11:31] <yaaar> Draken: so, what's the output of 'uname -a' ?
[11:31] <polpak> ara, ah.. is the directory mounted from somewhere?
[11:31] <ara> polpak. no it's a downloaded dir
[11:31] <Draken> 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic
[11:31] <andrew_> lemme run something by y'all: there's the adm group for users created as admins, and the users group (assumedly) for those who are not in adm.  however, there's no group that encompasses both (e.g. for allowing all users on a system access to a folder).  it seems like that should be something that happens automatically.  am i missing something or could i file a feature request for that?
[11:31] <yaaar> Draken: ok
[11:32] <polpak> ara, you downloaded something as root? or you just unpacked it as root?
[11:32] <Manifold> Done it, polpak
[11:32] <polpak> ara, either way.. bad practice
[11:32] <chris__> hi everyone... i finished installing ubuntu breezy on a hp pavilion with a rockwell chameleon combo card.  I have no sound, so i went out and found a sound driver from the HP site that says it is OS independent; however, it is an exe file and i have no clue how to install it...  (Newbie here)
[11:32] <yaaar> andrew_: i thought the users group *did* encompass the adm group?
[11:32] <Grackshrike> andrew_, I would think that if normal users can access it, than admins can also access it.
[11:32] <ibmnotebook> my atheros wlan card is recognizez but does not work with breezy... any ideas around what i can do?
[11:32] <polpak> Manifold, ok, now try ln -s '/path/to/some file with spaces/file.txt' ./file.txt
[11:33] <andrew_> yaaar, at the moment (new install from yesterday) i have no members in users at all; i created 5 for my family yesterday.
[11:33] <Draken> yaaar: , u got any idea ? :<
[11:33] <polpak> ara, if you are sure you want to remove it you'll need to open a terminal
[11:33] <polpak> ara, then cd ~Desktop
[11:33] <ara> polpak, when i downloaded it wasn't like this, i did a command on it and i can't remember what, now i just want to take that little lock symbol out
[11:33] <polpak> ara, then sudo rm -rf ./directory
[11:33] <gio> fd
[11:33] <yaaar> Draken: which linux-restricted-modules did you install? i can't find one for amd64 in synaptic
[11:33] <polpak> ara, oh
[11:34] <gio> fdgd
[11:34] <Grackshrike> Anyone have any ideas how I can resolve the window streaking issue (cause by dragging windows over other windows)? Does anyone else have this problem? It's possible that it's just because my EPIA is slow, but I don't think so. Plenty of games run fine, so I wouldn't think gnome would be this slow...
[11:34] <polpak> ara, you don't want to remove it?
[11:34] <ara> polpak not really
[11:34] <polpak> ara,  just open a terminal then and cd ~Desktop
[11:34] <Draken> yaaar: i think i just got the drivers, not the whole module i think
[11:34] <bulio> to install fluxbox on ubntu
[11:34] <bulio> anyone have a guide?
[11:34] <andrew_> yaaar, Grackshrike: is that not how your user accounts are?
[11:34] <polpak> ara, and sudo chown -R ara:ara ./directory
[11:34] <Pygi> !fluxbox
[11:34] <ubotu> hmm... fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[11:35] <polpak> ara, assuming your username in ubuntu is ara
[11:35] <polpak> Manifold, did that work?
[11:35] <Manifold> Phreow, nice.
[11:35] <bulio> thanks
[11:35] <Manifold> Thanks polpak
[11:35] <ara> polpak, ok thanks
[11:35] <tarmath> hi lads, Im wondering if anyone would know of a location where I could grab an extensive listing of the user groups in /etc/group and their meaning, I know most of them but not all of them and Im quite curious as to what the others might be doing
[11:35] <micahf> anyone here on copper.net?
[11:35] <Manifold> I'll need to remember that..
[11:35] <polpak> Manifold, yes.. symlinks are most convienent
[11:35] <ara> cd Desktop
[11:35] <Grackshrike> !groups
[11:35] <ubotu> Grackshrike: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:36] <micahf> cd ~/Desktop
[11:36] <Grackshrike> :|
[11:36] <bulio> should I really use flux if I have 533mhz cpu and 380mb ram?
[11:36] <tarmath> Ive been searching for this info and it's nowhere to be found... I cant believe such a thing is hard to find
[11:36] <andrew_> Grackshrike, could you check your user settings?
[11:36] <Grackshrike> andrew_, sure, what am I looking for?
[11:36] <polpak> ara, cd ~/Desktop will work no matter where you are. cd Directory will work if you are in your home directory already
[11:37] <andrew_> Grackshrike, a group that encompasses the members of users and adm, i guess.  or something else that's suitable.
[11:37] <yaaar> Draken: when you went through synaptic to install the 'linux-restricted-modules' package, there were several....do you know which one you got?
[11:37] <fizzle> anyone here have the link to set up the ubuntu repositories?
[11:37] <polpak> tarmath, take a look at system->administrator->users and groups
[11:37] <Draken> yaaar: , i dont think i got any resticted-modules ;/
[11:37] <Pygi> bulio: yesh
[11:37] <fizzle> ubotu, how to set up repository
[11:37] <ubotu> fizzle: Are you smoking crack?
[11:37] <Pygi> !fluxbox
[11:37] <ubotu> fluxbox is, like, totally, a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[11:37] <Grackshrike> andrew_, "users" encompasses "all users," and I am in there, and I'm also in admin, so yeah...
[11:37] <yaaar> fizzle: just click the lifesaver bouy at the top of your screen and it's in the getting started section
[11:37] <bulio> what about xfce?
[11:37] <fizzle> ubotu tell fizzle how to set up repositories
[11:37] <Pygi> !repos
[11:37] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[11:37] <nalioth> !ubotu
[11:37] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[11:38] <fizzle> ty
[11:38] <andrew_> Grackshrike, hmm... how could i have messed that up?  i checked all available boxes when adding users.  did you do a fresh install with breezy?
[11:38] <ibmnotebook> ubuntu recognizes my wlan card (ahteros). but i do not have any signal :(
[11:38] <fizzle> where is sources.list?
[11:38] <tarmath> polpak: and what am I supposed to find there? theres no description at all...
[11:39] <polpak> fizzle, /etc/apt
[11:39] <Grackshrike> andrew_, nope. I installed hoary, then dist-upgraded. I didn't do anything for user setup, just what it asked me to do when I installed it...
[11:39] <Pygi> ubotu tell fizzle about sources
[11:39] <fizzle> ty
[11:39] <andrew_> Grackshrike, same here with breezy (just yesterday), with the exception of adding four other users for the rest of my family.
[11:39] <polpak> tarmath, if you edit your user and go to the user privileges tab
[11:40] <Pygi> !info anjuta
[11:40] <ubotu> anjuta: (A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.4-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 872 kB, Installed size: 2124 kB
[11:40] <andrew_> i could manually add the users to the users group, but i'm afraid any later changes won't apply.
[11:40] <SillyZ> afternoon yall
[11:40] <Pygi> huh, still no 2.0 :/
[11:40] <chapium> i'm trying to install java-package.  However apt cannot find it and I do have multiverse setup.  Whats wrong here?
[11:40] <Pygi> !java
[11:40] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:40] <Pygi> !javadebs
[11:40] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[11:40] <yaaar> Draken: ok, so did you just install 'nvidia-glx' then?
[11:40] <Draken> yaaar:  ya
[11:41] <Pygi> andrew: hehe :)
[11:41] <polpak> !java-package
[11:41] <Grackshrike> andrew_, hmm, it looks to me like the default settings for "add user" should be fine.
[11:41] <ubotu> polpak: I don't know
[11:41] <SillyZ> q: there was a software package for linux that was released for doing anime style work, the company who made the software opensourced it, and illbe damned if I cant remember what the name of it was .... any ideas?
[11:41] <andrew_> Grackshrike, i'll try one now...
[11:41] <Grackshrike> andrew_, they just need to be in default group 'user'.
[11:41] <Pygi> ubotu tell polpak about javadebs
[11:41] <Draken> yaaar: but i just found linux-restricted-modules-amd64-generic
[11:41] <chapium> Pygi, the instructions do not work
[11:41] <yaaar> Draken: yeah install that.
[11:41] <andrew_> Grackshrike, yes, but what in the user GUI tool manages that assignment?
[11:41] <Pygi> andrew: not if only you would drop gaim :P
[11:41] <polpak> chapium, they worked fine for me
[11:41] <ibmnotebook> ubotu tell ibmnotebook about wlan
[11:41] <Pygi> chapium: well, then change them to working one :P
[11:42] <polpak> chapium, you are using the restricted formats wiki?
[11:42] <andrew_> Grackshrike, is it the "user profile" on the advanced tab?
[11:42] <chapium> polpak, yes
[11:42] <Grackshrike> andrew_, the 'advanced' tab in the user profile editor has that...
[11:42] <bulio> if I install fluxbox, do I still have the choice of running gnome at boot?
[11:42] <Draken> eish 21megs, on a 128mb :P
[11:42] <Grackshrike> yes andrew_
[11:42] <polpak> chapium, which part didn't work?
[11:42] <yaaar> Draken: i don't know whether that will change the kernel situation enough to require a reboot or not...
[11:42] <poningru> bulio: yes
[11:42] <tonyyarusso> How do I lock the screen on lid close on a laptop?
[11:42] <andrew_> Grackshrike, i set all to the administrator profile; shouldn't that still assign them to the users group?
[11:42] <chapium> polpak, it says to apt-get java-package, however apt cannot find it
[11:42] <poningru> tonyyarusso: it should do that automatically
[11:43] <bulio> installing flux
[11:43] <tkup> how do I edit the gnome menu? I tried installation alacarte through apt-get but it says that the package has been obsoleted. Does anyone know of an apt-get installable package that does this?
[11:43] <poningru> tonyyarusso: but I believe you can mess with that in screansavers advanced
[11:43] <yaaar> tonyyarusso: do you already have it set to lock the screen on screensaver/screenblank?
[11:43] <Pygi> chapium: huh, what are you talking about? ;/ ubotu tells you all you need to know...
[11:43] <Pygi> !patience
[11:43] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[11:43] <Grackshrike> andrew_, no, but being admins, they should have access to all user stuff.
[11:43] <rem_> apt-cache search java-package
[11:43] <rem_> java-package - utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages
[11:43] <tonyyarusso> poningru and yaaar: Okay, I got it now.
[11:43] <andrew_> Grackshrike, unless you assign something to the users group.
[11:43] <yaaar> anybody have experience with sound blaster live cards? particularly w/ the spdif output?
[11:43] <poningru> tkup: applications->system tools->applications menu editor
[11:43] <rem_> you should have universe etc on in your source probably ..
[11:44] <andrew_> Grackshrike, you can sudo stuff to death, but that doesn't seem the point here.
[11:44] <LiGhTeNiN> can someone help me set up a connection with router under kubuntu?
[11:44] <chapium> rem_, yes, multi and uni are both there
[11:44] <Grackshrike> andrew_, I dunno then...
[11:44] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: sure whats up?
[11:44] <Pygi> LiGhtenin: what seems to be problem?
[11:44] <tkup> poningru, I don't have it on my menu :(
[11:44] <LiGhTeNiN> well, I cant get it working
[11:44] <poningru> tkup: look in synaptic for smeg iirc
[11:44] <andrew_> Grackshrike, i would think that the users group would be everyone and the adm would only be those who have the administrator profile.  does that make sense to you?
[11:44] <poningru> !info smeg
[11:44] <anders__> I think my sound device is not properly set, how can I reconfigure it or install a new driver maybe
[11:44] <Sturgeon> If i go to "system->network servers" and i connect to a windows machine in my network, i can see the files and stuff there. How can i see them in a shell?
[11:44] <ubotu> smeg: (simple menu editing), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.7.5-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 17 kB, Installed size: 212 kB
[11:44] <eric_>  I need some help, the add prgrams icon is missing from my menu, I don't know where it went I need help restoring it
[11:44] <Sturgeon> Like, is that mounted in some directory?
[11:45] <eric_> "programs"
[11:45] <LiGhTeNiN> tried 'sudo dhclient eth0' but nothing
[11:45] <poningru> eric_: hold on
[11:45] <eric_> ok
[11:45] <Sturgeon> anyone?
[11:45] <LiGhTeNiN> I used some network conf tool under KDE but the net was still not working
[11:45] <tkup> poningru, I just searched smeg in synaptic. the search didn't turn out anything
[11:45] <Pygi> !patience
[11:45] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[11:46] <Sturgeon> Er, i meant Places->Network Servers
[11:46] <Pygi> tkup: repositories, set them up....
[11:46] <Grackshrike> andrew_, I dunno. I would think it's the other way around, that admin is user privaleges and then some, but I don't know much about user privalages and whatnot.
[11:46] <polpak> chapium, java-package is part of the multiverse repo
[11:46] <yaaar> anybody know if the alsa drivers for emu10k1 and ca0106 (sound blaster live) cards have good support for the spdif out?
[11:46] <poningru> eric_: you mean add applications?
[11:46] <eric_> yes that one
[11:46] <polpak> chapium, if apt can't find them then either you don't hae multiverse set up, or you need to apt-get update
[11:46] <ibmnotebook> ubotu tell ibmnotebook about how to get an answer to a question
[11:46] <chapium> polpak, perhaps there is some other problem then.  I see multiverse selected in synaptic and listed in sources.list
[11:46] <andrew_> Grackshrike, we're saying the same thing. ^_^ thanks for the help; i'll file a bug.
[11:46] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: well, I cant get my adsl connection working now that I have a router
[11:46] <chapium> polpak, i just ran update a moment ago
[11:47] <Grackshrike> andrew_, oh, :P ok...
[11:47] <polpak> chapium, can you pastebin your sources.list?
[11:47] <poningru> eric_: go to system tools->applications menu editor
[11:47] <tkup> Pygi, my sources.list has the standard repositories and one more. Which repositories should I add?
[11:47] <chapium> polpak, sure
[11:47] <polpak> chapium, and you've done a search in synaptic for java-package?
[11:47] <chapium> yep
[11:47] <poningru> eric_: on the left hand side select the top thing
[11:47] <Pygi> tkup: please paste sources.list in pastebin
[11:47] <Pygi> !pastebin
[11:47] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:47] <poningru> eric_: on the right hand side make sure there is a check mark for add applications
[11:47] <anders__> can somebody help me with my soundcard
[11:47] <pablosan> alguien habla espaol ?
[11:48] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: hold on just a sec
[11:48] <eric_> ok I'll try that, thanks so much
[11:48] <Pygi> anders: wait a sec
[11:48] <Pygi> !patience
[11:48] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[11:48] <tarmath> polpak: I have no such thing as user priviledges tab... im using kubuntu though
[11:48] <poningru> !es
[11:48] <pablosan> hay algun canal de ubuntu para los hispanos parlantes ?
[11:48] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:48] <polpak> polpak, oh.. it's probably different then.
[11:48] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: ok so what router is it?
[11:48] <polpak> tarmath, err sorry
[11:48] <tkup> Pygi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6468
[11:48] <polpak> tarmath, that was for you
[11:48] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: ericsson hn294dp
[11:49] <Sturgeon> if i go to places->network servers i can see my windows machine and its contents. Is there a way to see them in a shell?
[11:49] <Pygi> tkup: huh, hoary??
[11:49] <chapium> polpak, heres the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6469
[11:49] <tarmath> polpak: yes thanks Ive read... I was figuring the info would be the same / at the same spot but if the program isnt the same... it has to be somewhere darn
[11:49] <s0n1cm0nk3y> does anyone know where the grub config is in ubuntu?
[11:50] <polpak> s0n1cm0nk3y, /boot/grub/menu.lst I think?
[11:50] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, /boot/grub/menu.lst, same as any grub installation. ^_^
[11:50] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: is that a dsl modem+Router?
[11:50] <tkup> Pygi, yes, I'm still on hoary
[11:50] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: correct
[11:50] <tkup> Pygi, why?
[11:50] <Pygi> tkup, huh, can't help then, sorry :/
[11:50] <Pygi> I don't have hoary, and don't know what's in the repos :/
[11:50] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ polpak, any chance one of you is running a dual boot?
[11:50] <polpak> chapium, you don't have multiverse enabled
[11:51] <tkup> Pygi, ah I get it...
[11:51] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: then couple of questions does it work with windows?
[11:51] <chapium> hmmm
[11:51] <polpak> chapium, that sources.list only has universe
[11:51] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, sure am.  i assume you mean with windows?
[11:51] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: the reason I ask is I want to make sure that you can connect to the internet
[11:51] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: Yes, I'm using it right now :>
[11:51] <SirKillalot> how do I reconfigure the x serveR?
[11:51] <poningru> ok do you know using what protocol its communicating with the router?
[11:51] <poningru> as in just normal ethernet?
[11:51] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ yeah, Im diagnosing a problem I have with dualbooting, it just shows the options I have and I was wondering if you one of u could post your grub config for me so I can compare
[11:51] <poningru> or something weird like pppoe or something
[11:51] <bulio> how do I install xfce?
[11:52] <polpak> s0n1cm0nk3y, no, but I used to. I ditched windows for good a few months ago
[11:52] <Pygi> !xubuntu
[11:52] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[11:52] <poningru> !tell bulio about xfce
[11:52] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ using pastebin or w.e
[11:52] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: hmm I dont know
[11:52] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, sure; h/o
[11:52] <Pygi> huh, not twice :/
[11:52] <yaaar> hey guys, is there a hardware support database around someplace for ubuntu?
[11:52] <yaaar> more specifically one for sound cards?
[11:52] <bulio> I just wanna boot into xfce
[11:52] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: in windows how did you connect? just plug in and it worked?
[11:52] <bulio> thats it
[11:52] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: yes
[11:52] <s0n1cm0nk3y> polpak, ah.............. yeah Im considering that right now, I switched my dad to ubuntu but I still keep a dual boot with gentoo on one of my boxes
[11:52] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, you're lucky i'm on my parents' computer; i don't have windows on my own. :-P
[11:52] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ lol, thank the gods of luck
[11:53] <krystoff> please which is the best format to store mails ?? mailDir ? or something else ?
[11:53] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: try the all reset thing, because ubuntu should work as well
[11:53] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: all reset meaning
[11:53] <eric_> poningru: I tried what you said but I did not even see add application on the menu
[11:53] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, gods of luck... what an ironic phrase.  those two concepts seem opposite to me. :)
[11:53] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: turn off everything wait 15 mins and restart everything
[11:53] <SteveStevings> okay im having much trouble with this, ive got a .pcf font in my .fonts folder, but none of the programs see it, do i need to edit something in oreder to fix this??
[11:54] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: ubuntu should detect it on startup
[11:54] <tkup> does anyone know the path to the menu items in gnome so I can edit them manually?
[11:54] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: I have tried that, maybe I should make some configuration first?
[11:54] <AndrewX> do you need the 686-smp kernel to support hyperthreading, or does the reg. 686 one support it?
[11:54] <eric_> I think I'm missing a few things after I uninstalled kubuntu and xfce, how do I restore gnome back to default
[11:54] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ lol, well sometimes oxymorons can be true ^^
[11:55] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: I'm actually using a Kubuntu live-cd to check it out
[11:55] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: are you connecting using usb?
[11:55] <LiGhTeNiN> no
[11:55] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, here's the whole damn thing (rather long!): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6470
[11:55] <polpak> AndrewX, I believe you need smp, but I could be mistaken
[11:56] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: I have an ethernet card
[11:56] <Dreamglider> http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=dvd+region&section=projects&Go.x=20&Go.y=14 < "Allows you to play from a player without a region set." will this allow me to play any dvd regions and thenge them as foten as i like on ubuntu ?
[11:56] <SteveStevings> okay im having much trouble with this, ive got a .pcf font in my .fonts folder, but none of the programs see it, do i need to edit something in oreder to fix this??
[11:56] <bakpao> hi i've installed gxmms through apt
[11:56] <tkup> ah I found it thanks
[11:56] <chapium> polpak, thanks.
[11:56] <bakpao> but now i don't know how to start it
[11:56] <bakpao> can anyone helpme
[11:56] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ its just as I feared, same as mine, damn I think windows is being gay again........I should just shell it
[11:56] <jackobill> help I can't get in my main user anymore... I get this as error : http://pastebin.com/486469
[11:56] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, what's the problem?
[11:57] <ompaul> !gay
[11:57] <tarmath> polpak: im sorry for asking so much, but if this info is not accessible to me since I dont have the program, is there any chance that it is available somewhere else?
[11:57] <poningru> SteveStevings: just logoff and logon
[11:57] <bakpao> i tried xmms from bash but bash told me command not found
[11:57] <ompaul> !tell s0n1cm0nk3y about gay
[11:57] <hydroksyde> hmmm
[11:57] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: its probably the livecd thats causing the problem
[11:57] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ when I try to boot windows, it just shows what I put down to make it boot, the options, and thats it, then it just keeps blinking the cursor and stays there doing nothing
[11:57] <polpak> chapium, np
[11:57] <s0n1cm0nk3y> though no worries, Im going to go full linux
[11:57] <andrew_> ompaul, that ubotu is great!
[11:57] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: so I wont be able to use net with the live-cd? :<
[11:58] <polpak> tarmath, np, but I don't know where else to see it
[11:58] <eric_> does anyone know how to restore the default settings for Ubuntu, I'm missing some programs I may have deleted by mistake
[11:58] <ompaul> andrew_, yes, this is known near and far
[11:58] <eric_> I know in windows there is a system file check
[11:58] <Snurf> Can someone help me in a PM? Its pretty long
[11:58] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, i'd search google on grub's site; i recall some troubleshooting steps there.
[11:58] <eric_> anything like that in ubunty
[11:59] <nalioth> eric_: in a console, type "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop"
[11:59] <s0n1cm0nk3y> lol, onpaul, lol, did you put a bot on me?
[11:59] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: you should be able to
[11:59] <teprrr> hmm, anyone knows about xorg crashes in dapper?
[11:59] <hydroksyde> http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/auction_detail.asp?id=43877969 - If I upgraded this to 128MB, would it run ubuntu alright???
[11:59] <s0n1cm0nk3y> ompaul, lol, ass, oh well, I meant it by it in the slang context, nothing more
[11:59] <eric_> ok I'll try that, thanks
[11:59] <m4rtin> Is there really no other choise to get my winmodem(HSF) to work, other thene buy a fu***** license?
[11:59] <teprrr> I can't start any gl app here.. :(
[11:59] <Franz> Hi people!
[11:59] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: I am assuming its something simple
[11:59] <foampeace> hi
[11:59] <fizzle> hey how do i install java
[11:59] <Franz> Happy new year to you all!
[11:59] <fizzle> ubotu,  tell fizzle about java
[12:00] <hydroksyde> m4rtin, buy a new modem


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[00:00] <Nafallo> elmo: around to check the above? :-)
[00:00] <Fujitsu> geser: Yeah, I can see other recent things missing.
[00:00] <Fujitsu> And the timestamp on the various files is late on the 15th.
[00:01] <Nafallo> Packages haven't really updated either.
[00:01] <Fujitsu> geser: Binaries should appear on a.u.c soon after publisher finishes, which is about 45 past the hour.
[00:02] <geser> Fujitsu: that's what I remember
[00:02] <geser> perhaps the FF got also implemented on a.u.c :)
[00:02] <Fujitsu> Heh.
[00:07] <pixelpapst> hmm, no LP here to answer my question ? then I'll go and open a ticket, i guess
[00:07] <pixelpapst> LP admins, even
[00:08] <LarstiQ> pixelpapst: that's probably wise, although they'll know about it on Monday
[00:09] <pixelpapst> just hoped i could get around it as i'm too lazy ;)
[00:33] <superm1> do the other mirrors all sync off a.u.c i'm guessing?  so switching to a different mirror won't do all much of good
[00:37] <RAOF> Is anyone having PPA troubles today?  I uploaded a new nouveau package, and that's fine, but the PPA is silently eating my libdrm uploads.
[00:37] <Nafallo> superm1: no
[00:37] <pixelpapst> Ok, posted as question 24847 ( https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/24847 )
[00:37] <Nafallo> superm1: but I bet the problem lays deeper in the mirror machinery.
[00:38] <superm1> Nafallo, :(
[00:38] <pixelpapst> i guess i'll do a RL waidpid() for now :-)
[02:08] <profoX`> Hi.. Can I integrate a svn repository in Launchpad?
[02:08] <Fujitsu> profoX`: You can have a read-only Bazaar import of your Subversion repository if you wish.
[02:09] <profoX`> Fujitsu: meaning.. users can checkout through the bzr system but developers still need svn?
[02:10] <Fujitsu> profoX`: Correct. Launchpad doesn't provide facilities for hosting writable Subversion repositories, just Bazaar ones.
[02:10] <profoX`> I'm actually starting a new project.. what advantage would it give me if I would use Bazaar instead of Subversion? The reason I want to use Subversion is because I'm familiar with it and because ohloh doesn't support Bazaar.
[02:11] <Fujitsu> Bazaar is very easy to use, is fully supported by Launchpad, allows distributed development models...
[02:13] <profoX`> hmmm.. if I can find a way to make ohloh use a bazaar branch (there's probably some Bazaar->Svn thing somewhere) I'll try bazaar for this project (because of the good launchpad integration)
[02:16] <profoX`> hmm, another good question: is it possible to rename the name of a project thats registered on launchpad,
[02:17] <profoX`> or was the only problem that you couldn't delete them
[02:17] <Fujitsu> I believe a Launchpad administrator should be able to rename a project.
[02:21] <profoX`> because my project has a temp name
[02:22] <Fujitsu> If you want it renamed, ask at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion.
[02:22] <profoX`> ok
[02:30] <profoX`> wheres the bzr beginners docu :)
[02:40] <Fujitsu> profoX`: http://bazaar-vcs.org/ probably has a few useful links.
[02:40] <profoX`> yea i found some
[02:40] <Fujitsu> On general bzr usage, migration from other things, etc.
[02:41] <profoX`> i'm waiting until launchpad shows me the branch is published..
[02:41] <profoX`> ah, it worked
[02:46] <jml> hooray
[03:21] <cprov> Fujitsu: ispanish binary is build by espa-nol source now, see https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/espa-nol/1.9-13
[03:25] <Fujitsu> cprov: Perhaps so, but look at the binary publishings for it.
[03:26] <Fujitsu> It was promoted, gaining two main publishings. They are both now superseded.
[03:28] <Fujitsu> cprov: Also, archive.ubuntu.com seems out of date.
[03:38] <cprov> Fujitsu: contact IS about mirror issues.
[03:39] <Fujitsu> cprov: So it is just a mirror issue, and not publisher not running?
[03:40] <cprov> Fujitsu: drescher disk is fine, AFAICS
[03:40] <Fujitsu> OK, thanks.
[03:41] <cprov> Fujitsu: the problem with ispanish binary is that it was overridden twice to main ... do you know who did the override ?
[03:43] <Fujitsu> cprov: You can likely work that out from the archive admin schedule, but I don't know who did it.
[03:44] <cprov> Fujitsu: do they have a publish schedule ?
[03:44] <cprov> Fujitsu: anyway, file a bug, I can recover it on Monday.
[03:45] <Fujitsu> cprov: Will do. Thanks for looking into it.
[03:45] <cprov> Fujitsu: np, you are welcome.
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #192547 in soyuz "Doubly-overridden binaries get eaten" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192547
[04:06] <cprov-ZzZ> g'night, folks.
[04:09] <Fujitsu> Night cprov-ZzZ.
[10:30] <Seq> Hello, can anybody help me solve both a "Failed to Upload" and a "chroot problem"? https://edge.launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all
[10:33] <thumper> !weekend
[10:33] <ubotu> It's a weekend.  Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question.  Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week.
[10:37] <Seq> Thanks thumper, It's fine to wait. I was just hoping I'd hit somebody that knew what was going on.
[12:02] <mdke> Seveas: did you ever find a way to have your bot broadcast commit messages into channels?
[12:03] <Seveas> mdke, haven't actively looked at it
[12:03] <mdke> Seveas: ok, fair enough
[12:04] <mdke> Seveas: do you think it would be difficult? is the method it uses for new bugs quite complicated?
[12:04] <Seveas> it's not difficult but ubotu is maintenance-only
[12:04] <mdke> what does that mean?
[12:05] <Seveas> I'm not adding new features to it
[12:06] <mdke> does that mean that you don't have time, or that even if someone else was willing to work on it, it wouldn't be allowed?
[12:06] <Seveas> the former
[12:07] <mdke> okay. I might make an appeal for someone with skills to give it a shot then. the docteam would find it useful, and I guess other communities in Ubuntu/LP might too
[12:07] <mdke> are there hardware limitations?
[12:13] <mdke> or bandwidth / space issues?
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #192615 in launchpad "Launchpads error reporting is crap" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192615
[12:22] <stdin> what a lovely bug title...
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #192616 in malone "Should tell the user how to associate a bug with a Ubuntu package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192616
[19:31] <ubotu> New bug: #192713 in soyuz "PPA packages fail to upload but build successfully" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192713
[19:57] <schmichael> how can i delete my project from launchpad?
[20:12] <stdin> schmichael: file a request at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[20:13] <schmichael> stdin: thanks!
[20:42] <Seq> Has anybody else been having a problem with all packages getting a "Failure to upload" error?
[20:46] <pochu> Seq: bug #192713?
[20:46] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 192713 in soyuz "PPA packages fail to upload but build successfully" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192713
[20:46] <Seq> pochu: that's it, yes.
[20:47] <Seq> pochu: I reported that bug
[20:48] <pochu> Seq: then just wait until tomorrow. Devs aren't expected to be here on Sundays ;)
[20:48] <lifeless> I would love to be able to attach multiple things at once :)
[20:48] <pochu> lifeless: ++
[20:48] <Seq> I know, I'll probably have to wait until tomorrow anyway. I just figured I'd try asking today anyway
[20:48] <mwhudson_> attach via email!
[20:48] <mwhudson_> (soon, maybe)
[20:49] <pochu> I'd love to be able to dput to launchpad bug reports ;)
[20:49] <pochu> mwhudson_: err, that's not possible, is it?
[20:49] <mwhudson_> no, it's not
[20:49] <pochu> ah
[20:50] <Fujitsu> Seq: Is there anything special about linux-headers-2.6.24-8-generic?
[20:50] <Fujitsu> Seq: If you build that, can you unpack it locally?
[20:50] <mwhudson_> it's In Progress though: https://edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/30225
[20:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 30225 in malone/1.2 "Attach files via email" [High,In progress]  - Assigned to Abel Deuring (adeuring)
[21:01] <Seq> Fujitsu: not really. I actually had it build and upload 2.6.24-8.13~macbook0 successfully. I made a slight change for ~macbook1 (added 386 to the build flavours of i386), and now it doesn't upload (though build works fine).
[21:04] <tomek> hello, how long do I have to wait for accepting my .pot file for translations?
[21:04] <Seq> Fujitsu: I've taken a gutsy 2.6.22 kernel that worked properly on ~chrisirwin ppa and put it onto ~mactel-support ppa, and it fails to upload as well. This was given the exact same source I had uploaded to ~chrisirwin originally
[21:07] <tomek> could someone push my .pot through? I need them for experiments with Visual Studio
[21:13] <tomek> statik: ping :)
[21:30] <mpt> Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[21:46] <warp10> Is there a way to edit or delete a comment or an attachement in a Lunchpad bug?
[23:13] <mpt> warp10, not yet
[23:13] <mpt> that's bug 80895
[23:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 80895 in malone "Give people five minutes to edit/delete their comment" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80895
[23:15] <Fujitsu> mpt, warp10: You can delete attachments.
[23:16] <mpt> ah yes, so you can
[23:16] <warp10> mpt: thanks for the pointer. I would like to see editing capability, at least for members of team like bugcontrol or motu.
[23:16]  * mpt has never used that
[23:16] <mpt> see also bug 1734
[23:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 1734 in malone "Need ability to mark bug comments as obsolete" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1734
[23:17] <warp10> Fujitsu: indeed. I browsed the whole launchpad, than I seen the gray box just left of my bug -_-
[23:19] <Fujitsu> I have to say it isn't exactly obvious, hidden behind the pencil in the portlet that is contracted by default.
[23:20] <Fujitsu> Oh, it's not even a pencil. It just says `edit'
[23:20] <warp10> Fujitsu: it would be nice to have an edit link close to the attachment. It would make it easier to find the one to remove too
[23:21] <mpt> please report a bug about that
[23:21] <warp10> mpt: good idea. I'll do that tomorrow, it's bed-time for my side of the world :)
[23:24] <mpt> If it takes longer than 2 minutes, you're doing it wrong :-)
[23:26] <ubotu> New bug: #192775 in rosetta "Notification after upload refers to "1 files"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192775
[23:31] <Pricey> Three times now, I've accidentally pressed the "approve" button rather than the "decline" button. After correcting the mistake, the users show up on the deactivated list. Is there any way I could have 3 entries removed by an admin type person so that there is no confusion whether they were once part of the team?


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[08:15] <tseliot> sil2100, hey, can we remove and block out https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-tesla-440 , please? It was imported from debian
[08:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-clocks [source] (focal-proposed) [3.36.0-1ubuntu0.1]
[08:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Groovy Daily] (20200504) has been added
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[09:05] <sil2100> tseliot: oh, I can take a look at that after the meeting
[09:10] <tseliot> sil2100, thanks
[09:14] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, I tried to fix mpfi build-uninstallability on i386 but I failed... hint please<EMAIL_ADDRESS>also removing build-essential seems to bring it back to other uninstallabilities
[09:15] <seb128> sil2100, hey, thanks for the SRU reviews, will do better with 'combined patches' next time :) I usually take the gitlab MR url and append .patch and it gives that patch serie format which is convenient to have a coherent set but agreed might be less nice to review
[09:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Groovy Daily] (20200504.1) has been added
[09:20]  * Laney eyes queuebot
[09:20] <Laney> why are you notifying about that
[09:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: 27 entries have been added, updated or disabled
[09:25] <sil2100> Laney: ok, fixed it now
[09:26] <sil2100> Laney: I think it was because I left 'notify on build' on the Daily milestone, and I think that's how queuebot determines when to track builds
[09:27] <sil2100> seb128: yeah, guessed that's how it worked - as said, not a problem, but both me and dpkg-source are not big fans of that! Thanks ;)
[09:28] <seb128> sil2100, right, point taken, I will just apply them as different commit/patches next time :)
[09:29] <Laney> seb128: there's a way to pull merge requests in git directly btw
[09:29] <Laney> don't remember exactly what it is, but something like 'git fetch origin refs/merge_requests/NNNN'
[09:29] <Laney> might be helpful for you
[09:30] <seb128> Laney, I will try next time, thanks for the hint
[09:30] <Laney> (then they end up in FETCH_HEAD and you can cherry-pick to the pq branch)
[09:30] <seb128> but when there is no vcs in use I tend to just do merge_request_url.patch , save as, add to serie :p
[09:30] <Laney> np!
[09:30] <seb128> one day I will really get used to the new tools :)
[09:31] <seb128> ninja patching is still more efficient and less commands for a simple cherry pick :)
[09:31] <seb128> (but yeah, there is some value going the the overhead)
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[13:08] <apw> Laney, sil2100, is it me or does focal-release not have any Supported: fields
[13:11] <cjwatson> apw: Intentionally removed
[13:11] <cjwatson> apw: https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubuntu-archive-publishing/no-more-supported/+merge/382444
[13:11] <apw> cjwatson, thanks
[13:12] <apw> dunno how i blanked that when it happened, sigh
[14:15] <tseliot> doko, hey, I've noticed that my build failed on amd64: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/1:0.8.2/+build/19258941
[14:15] <tseliot> doko, "sbuild-build-depends-ubuntu-drivers-common-dummy : Depends: lib32gcc1 but it is not going to be installed". What am I supposed to use in groovy?
[14:17] <doko> tseliot: please fix the build dependency
[14:17] <tseliot> doko, sure, with what?
[14:17] <doko> lib32gcc-s1
[14:18] <tseliot> doko, ok, thanks
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[15:33] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: right, mpfi is simply not built on i386 nor should it be, hint is correct here; doing
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[16:58] <RikMills> vorlon: could you please remove the release pocket binaries for kaccounts-providers for ppc64el, riscv64 and s390x? The new version in proposed requires QtWebEngine, not available on those archs
[16:59] <vorlon> RikMills: looking
[16:59] <RikMills> ty!
[16:59] <vorlon> RikMills: done
[16:59] <RikMills> \o/ thanks!
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[17:49] <Eickmeyer> Throwing this out there, it looks like mistakes were made. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-live/current/ should mirror what's in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-live/20200504 ? It's currently not.
[17:50] <Eickmeyer> Side note: Ubuntu MATE currently does not have a daily spin.
[17:50] <Laney> No mistake. That only gets updated once smoke testing passes, or someone manually updates it.
[17:51] <Laney> It's up to the MATE maintainers to fix their build, and I pinged Wimpre_ss about it already. Feel free to do so again if you want.
[17:51] <Eickmeyer> Ok, good to know. I just have a script that automatically Zsyncs all the things.
[17:52] <ogra> there should be a "pending" subdir (if hats still a thing) that has the very latest builds (pre-testing)
[17:53] <Bashing-om> Laney: Eickmeyer UWN: Ubuntu 20.10 (Groovy Gorilla) Daily Builds Are Now Available for Download - https://9to5linux.com/ubuntu-20-10-groovy-gorilla-daily-builds-are-now-available-for-download . Hold off in posting this ?
[17:55] <Eickmeyer> Bashing-om: It seems as though a gun was jumped there. The media likes to do that.
[17:56] <Bashing-om> Eickmeyer: We were hoping the fix would be in - 2 hours 'til release of the newsletter :(
[17:57] <Laney> Well it depends what you want to say. If you want to say: go and explore cdimage.ubuntu.com, and play with what you find, that's fine. If you want to say: all flavours have builds there, well, not true currently. :)
[17:58] <Eickmeyer> Laney: While I *kinda* have your attention, the daily focal builds are broken for Studio. It appears as though both linux-lowlatency and linux-lowlatency-hwe are being pulled-in. I don't see anywhere in the seed where that is happening, so perhaps you have some insight?
[17:58] <Laney> Go hassle Martin in #ubuntu-flavours/#ubuntu-flavors or ubuntu-mate's channel until he fixes it. :P
[17:58] <Laney> Eickmeyer: I'm on the way out (7pm), sorry, perhaps vorlon or bdmurray can help you
[17:58] <Eickmeyer> Laney: Ack. Thanks. :)
[18:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-botocore (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.8.48+repack-1 => 1.15.46+repack-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
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[18:53] <RikMills> vorlon: I think kqtquickcharts has an old i386 transitional binary that need cleaning up? could you do that if you have time? https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#kqtquickcharts
[19:43] <vorlon> RikMills: this is because qtdeclarative4-kqtquickcharts-1 is an arch: all binary in groovy, so it's published on i386, so requires manual handling; I'll clean up
[19:48] <RikMills[m]> Ah. That makes sense
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[22:31] <vorlon> doko: what should we do with wp2latex, which build-dependns on libjpeg62-turbo-dev?
[22:31] <vorlon> doko: (would a wiki page to document jpeg library delta vs Debian be a good idea?)
[22:40] <Eickmeyer> vorlon: I just had a FTBFS on the Ubuntu Studio LiveCD due to this: python3-chardet : Breaks: python-chardet (< 3.0.4-6) but 3.0.4-4build1 is to be installed
[22:42] <Eickmeyer> Not sure why that happened when it wasn't an issue 4 hours ago.
[22:43] <cjwatson> python-chardet is NBS in groovy
[22:44] <cjwatson> as of three hours ago :)
[22:44] <cjwatson> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chardet - 3.0.4-7 no longer builds python-chardet
[22:45] <cjwatson> so you'd need to track down what it is on your image that still depends on it
[22:45] <cjwatson> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/nbs.html says it must be python-bs4 or python-pygments
[22:45] <Eickmeyer> I take it that has been removed?
[22:46] <cjwatson> python-chardet hasn't actually been removed from groovy yet, but only because stuff still depends on it
[22:46] <Eickmeyer> Ok, couldn't find any rdepends on python-pyguments
[22:47] <Eickmeyer> Because I typed it wrong.
[22:48] <Eickmeyer> Looks like inkscape would be the culpret.
[22:48] <Eickmeyer> depends on python-lxml.
[22:48] <Eickmeyer> which, depends on python-chardet
[22:49] <cjwatson> Only a Recommends, but yeah.  And fixed in groovy-proposed by the look fo it
[22:49] <cjwatson> *of it
[22:49] <Eickmeyer> Ok, I'll watch for that to migrate then try a rebuild.
[22:50] <cjwatson> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#inkscape   blocked on missing i386 and riscv64 builds?  i386 might need a hint ...
[22:50] <Eickmeyer> riscv64 also shouldn't be a blocker yet.
[22:50] <cjwatson> in theory but I'm not sure how much that currently relies on manual release team action
[22:51] <Eickmeyer> If it's preventing a seeded package from migrating, that could definitely be a problem.
[22:51] <cjwatson> I'll retry inkscape/riscv64 in case recent buildd upgrades have helped
[22:51] <Eickmeyer> ok
[22:52] <cjwatson> but inkscape/i386 requires somebody not-me to look at it
[22:52] <Eickmeyer> Ok. vorlon, bdmurray ^
[22:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-oem-osp1 [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [5.0.0-1052.57] (no packageset)
[23:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: svgtune [amd64] (groovy-proposed/universe) [0.3.0-1] (no packageset)


[01:45] <Matteo78> Linux e una meraviglia
[06:30] <xubuntu15w> Hello
[06:31] <lighterowl> hi
[06:31] <xubuntu15w> My name is Mike from Singapore, I am look for Xubuntu 18.10 64 bit arm version from your website, but I can't find any?
[06:32] <xubuntu15w> Can I do an upgrade from 18.04 to 18.10 version?
[06:33] <xubuntu15w> You go an official link to down from? I just need it to install on my Raspberry Pi 3 B+.
[06:35] <xubuntu15w> Possible to help on this? Thank you a lot.
[06:48] <st-gourichon-fid> xubuntu15w, if I wished to run xubuntu on a Pi, and would not find dedicated images, then I would install https://ubuntu.com/download/server/arm then replace ubuntu-desktop package with xubuntu-desktop.
[06:48] <st-gourichon-fid> Oh, better URL https://ubuntu.com/download/raspberry-pi
[06:49] <well_laid_lawn> !info xubuntu-desktop
[06:49] <lighterowl> xubuntu15w: and yes, you can do an upgrade from 18.04 to 18.10.
[06:50] <st-gourichon-fid> xubuntu15w,  That said, xfce is also included in Debian IIRC, so the default Raspbian image can run XFCE, too.
[07:13] <JackFrost> You can indeed install Xfce in Debian, we try to share as much packaging as possible.  Granted, you won't have the Xubuntu configuration and theming, but one can...Fix that.
[07:16] <xubuntu15w> lighterowl: Thank you for your information.
[07:21] <xubuntu15w> I working on Edgex Foundry project on Raspberry Pi (https://www.edgexfoundry.org/devkits/community-devkit/#hardware), It mention to use the USB_installer on the USB drive to install xubuntu on the SD card, but I can't event boot from the USB drive using the zip file provided.
[07:23] <xubuntu15w> I got Initramfs unpacking failed: write error on the screen, follow by kernel panic - not syncing: out of memory...
[12:09] <st-gourichon-fid> Regarding the issue I raised yesterday evening, it looks like the preference labelled "Enable multimedia keys for playback control" controls the option.
[12:11] <st-gourichon-fid> https://docs.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin#media_player_control
[12:22] <lighterowl> yes, I had a feeling there was a reason why I didn't have that plugin enabled.
[12:23] <JackFrost> Oh?
[12:25] <lighterowl> i.e. I probably had the same issue once upon a time.
[12:26] <JackFrost> Anywho, your options are xfce4-voumed+volumeicon/indicator-sound or xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin for that type of thing.
[12:34] <st-gourichon-fid> JackFrost, I can just disable the "Enable multimedia keys for playback control". But that's still a workaround.
[12:34] <st-gourichon-fid> What is the core of the bug? A violation of the Principle of Least Surprise ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_astonishment ) because xfce4-keyboard-settings allows to define shortcut but they don't actually work.
[12:34] <st-gourichon-fid> Suggested behavior: when "Enable multimedia keys for playback control" is active, xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin would handle the shortcut then pass it on so that xfsettingsd can see if there is an additional user-defined shortcut and run it.
[12:38] <st-gourichon-fid> Created bug https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16363
[12:55] <st-gourichon-fid> Thanks again for those who helped understand what happens yesterday evening.
[13:00] <st-gourichon-fid> Another behavior would be "warn the user that enabling media keys would prevent user-defined key shortcuts", but such situation is the *default settings* so I don't feel like warning the user when they open xfce the first time would be good.
[13:00] <st-gourichon-fid> Better let all user-level key shortcuts work at all times, whether xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin handles media keys or not.+
[13:10] <brainwash> st-gourichon-fid: probably best to provide a patch if you are able to
[13:10] <brainwash> could be that xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin is not actively maintained anymore
[13:13] <JackFrost> Perhaps not the most maintained, but it's certainly not unmaintained.
[13:14] <brainwash> last changes are from early 2018
[16:21] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Hello!
[16:21] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Could someone kindly help me install a password manager, namely Enpass?
[16:31] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Could someone kindly help me install a password manager, namely Enpass? I have all the information, I am just a bit stuck.
[16:39] <rabbit-in-the-ti> rabbit-in-the-ti:7suzani1FN
[16:41] <brainwash> rabbit-in-the-ti: how is xubuntu involved in this?
[16:45] <tomreyn> rabbit-in-the-ti: you'll also want to replace this password now that you posted it here.
[16:50] <rabbit-in-the-ti> Thanks! Do I do that via freenode?
[16:51] <rabbit-in-the-ti> SETPASS?
[16:52] <rabbit-in-the-ti> SETPASS rabbit-in-the-ti
[16:53] <st-gourichon-fid> brainwash, I'm willing to write a patch for xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin , it's just that I don't know how to "pass through" a keyboard event that we received.  Anyone has a hint?
[16:54] <st-gourichon-fid> For all the rest I should be okay.
[16:54] <brainwash> st-gourichon-fid: sadly, I got no hints
[16:55] <brainwash> never touched that code before
[16:55] <tomreyn> rabbit-in-the-ti: type    /join #freenode    to get help with irc. and use the "server" tab (if you have that) to enter commands, try not to enter those on this channel window.
[18:21] <sm0rux> GE, everyone! Is there a way to access the exit meny in the Wisker Menu directly, without going via the Whisker Menu? https://allg.one/d0L7
[18:39] <brainwash> sm0rux: the whisker settings will tell you which command that is
[18:43] <sm0rux> brainwash: I've tried to find it, but no success so far.
[18:44] <brainwash> sm0rux: https://i.imgur.com/xEOkRHC.png
[18:45] <sm0rux> Thanks a zillion!
[18:46] <brainwash> :)


[10:20] <tijara> there are extensions to unload unused tabs if you have low ram
[15:51] <tijara> Michael: I'm talking about add-ons like The Great Suspender
 (Photo, 496x678) https://i.imgur.com/qQJ1rz9.jpg
[17:59] <tomreyn> Sosos needs a ban, if still present
[18:00] <wxl> tomreyn: on telegram?
 Thanks tomreyn I deleted their message and gave them the ban.
[18:00] <wxl> ah k
[18:02] <tomreyn> thanks!
 I wish it deleted the message in IRC too or at least indicated the message was deleted here, it can be confusing.
[18:04] <wxl> well IRC has no mechanism to delete the past to be fair
 what wxl said
 and sometimes those of us with starpower here on Telegram jsut whoosh in, delete, and disappear back to work
 That ^
[19:07] <wxl> run compton
[19:13] <kmikita> xcompmgr or edit xorg
 because it looks at context too.
 look at spótify .desktop, you have snap or deb spotify?
 anyhow, you could look at https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-runner to understand it.
 in the above case, pcman is who handles the desktop
 it's easier to use Super+E for pcman
 I use in search menu, it's easier if I know the app name.