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[00:14] <frego_> bogus> I think mine has RC6 on it and that was identified as Philips on some webpage way back when
[00:25] <tgm4883> bogus-, which remote  http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MCE_Remote
 i'm trying to install the nvidia driver, and nvidia-xconfig is not working
 X keeps loading
[01:09] <_mre|666> any ideas why?
[01:09] <_mre|666> i'm in mythbunutu, nvidia-xconfig is not working
[01:10] <Wy|laptop> what version?
[01:10] <_mre|666> 8.04
[01:10] <_mre|666> this is irritating as hell
[01:11] <Wy|laptop> I could imagine
[01:11] <_mre|666> i just want X not to load so i can compile the f*ckin driver
[01:11] <_mre|666> nvidia-xconfig is not working
[01:12] <_mre|666> X keeps loading
[01:20] <tgm4883_laptop> _mre|666, i take it that "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" didn't work?
[01:31] <_mre|666> i think the problem is more indepth
[01:31] <_mre|666> i'm tackleing it atm
[01:32] <_mre|666> i installed nvidia-glx and it seemded to solve the driver issues atleast
[01:32] <tgm4883_laptop> wait, you didn't try that first?
[01:32] <tgm4883_laptop> or second?
[01:38] <Asa_A> Can someone help find out what's wrong with my mytharchive? Here's the end of my mythburn.log: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11209/
[02:16] <_mre|666> how do i add drives in mythbuntu???
[02:16] <_mre|666> i don't know the fstab point off hand
[02:16] <_mre|666> anybody know?
[02:20] <_mre|666> fuck it
[02:20] <_mre|666> i'm installing gnome
[02:22] <rhpot1991_laptop> !ohmy _mre|666
[02:22] <rhpot1991_laptop> !ohmy | _mre|666
[02:22] <rhpot1991_laptop> hmmmm, where is the bot?
[02:22] <rhpot1991_laptop> watch the language _mre|666
[02:23] <rhpot1991_laptop> search for fstab on the forums and wiki, there should be enough in there to help you out
[02:36] <_mre|666> i know what fstab does
[02:36] <_mre|666> but i don't know the mount point
[02:37] <_mre|666> well this is annoying as hell...
[02:37] <_mre|666> linux isn't mounting this drive
[02:37] <_mre|666> at all
[02:37] <_mre|666> and when i try to mount what i think it is from the command line it says it's the wrong filesystem
[02:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> did you partition it and so on?
[02:40] <rhpot1991_laptop> ubuntu uses uuid's for them anymore
[02:41] <_mre|666> yeah, i know
[02:41] <_mre|666> naw... it's from an older linux install
[02:42] <_mre|666> i just partitioned the first drive
[03:24] <pretender_>  my mytharchive broke what other way can i get me mythtv recordings to DVD
[07:15] <rwalker> Was playing with Mythbuntu and have a strange problem... When playing any video (LiveTV or recorded) it is real slow/jerky or just frozen.  Using an AMD 780g chipset with 4850e proc
[07:15] <rwalker> Any thoughts?
[07:18] <pretender> problems with mytharchive hi def (digital) recordings not exporting to DVD properly.  DVD wont play.  mytharchive says something about unrecognised resolution.  How do i get hi def recordings to DVD
[07:23] <rwalker> Pretender, I don't think anyone else is around right now...  wish I knew the answer
[08:48] <dramman> how do I get mythbuntu to boot on a sata hdd?
[08:49] <dramman> can I select lilo as boot loader?  knoppmyth actually boots using lilo, but was not impressed with the package
[09:30] <laga> dramman: it should work out of the box.
[09:36] <dramman> laga: I wish
[09:39] <laga> what's the error message?
[10:19] <dramman> "GRUB Loading stage1.5."
[10:20] <laga> and nothing else?
[10:20] <dramman> no, it just stops there
[10:20] <laga> that's.. annoying. :(
[10:21] <dramman> might try vanilla Ubuntu and install myth on top
[10:21] <laga> maybe you can fiddle with your bios setting, eg disable AHCI. that might work..
[10:21] <laga> yeah, that'll also work
[10:22] <laga> s/'ll/ might/ ;)
[10:24] <dramman> what's ahci?
[10:25] <laga> dramman: it's some kind of standard to talk to SATA disks/controllers
[10:32] <dramman> right, this'll be distro number 4 this weekend...
[10:33] <laga> heh :)
[10:33] <laga> good luck!
[10:33] <laga> maybe you can post in the forums if it doesn't work, the mythbuntu forums has lots of helpful people
[10:47] <erty> If I've partioned my drive with sda1->/boot, sda4->/ where do i tell it to install the boot loader?  hd0 or sda1?
[11:13] <dramman> When "Advanced options", what location do I specify for "Device for boot loader installation"?  "(hd0)", /dev/sda or /dev/sda1?
[11:16] <dramman> why would you unselect "Install boot loader"?  ...If I had a working lilo from a previous KnoppMyth install, could I choose not to install grub?  Would lilo be able to then boot MythBuntu?
[12:43] <mandje> could you install xubuntu and later make it a mythbuntu?
[12:45] <mandje> or at first do the frontend install and later make it a backend.  just something to diminish the drive space required bus make it a linux system for the moment.
[12:45] <mandje> *but
[14:19] <laga> mandje: sure. but if you're going to use mythtv, drive space shouldn't be an issue ;)
[15:51] <mandje> laga: what is your 'sure' referring to?   and drive space wont be an issue in the future.  just for the moment it is.
[16:01] <laga> mandje: "sure, both options will work, but probably won't save you a lot of space"
[16:05] <mandje> laga: tnx. but the mythbuntu pages report a minimum space needed of 20GB for the backend.. so there's got to be a significant difference in space between frontend/backend or xubuntu/mythbuntu.
[16:06] <mandje> i'm now installing mythbuntu in a virtualbox. just to see what gives.
[16:08] <laga> mandje: backend implies recording. the biggest part of those 20GB will be for recordings.
[16:09] <laga> 20GB is not a lot of recordings, though.
[16:09] <mandje> oh ok.. so that's just reserved space. not used up after install.
[16:10] <mandje> all the myth use is for later. when i removed the XP install from that machine. can't do that now.
[16:39] <Cybertoy> hi... I finally have liveTV and can get a channel .. but have no audio ... audio working though for music or videos... any pointers to what might be wrong?
[16:45] <mandje> with default install there's not a swap made?
[17:11] <fstxx> Cybertoy: you have a bt8xx card? Is btaudio loaded
[17:42] <cosmic> HI @ ALL
[17:44] <cosmic> I have set up an Client System with only the mythfrontend installed on it. I can start the frontend but when i try to switch to live tv i get : CouldnT connect to Master Backend ? i have checked the IPs in the settings of Master and client and it looks good , where do i have to change something? has anyone a hint for me , please
[17:57] <rwalker> Anyone know how to change the keyring manager password?  Want to set it to blank to stop it from prompting...
[18:35] <Cybertoy> fstxx: tnx for the reply ... (just saw it now) ... I have a nvidia alc833 onboard audio
[18:45] <Cybertoy> ok .. I fixed it
[18:46] <Cybertoy> the upmix setting screwed it up
[18:46] <Cybertoy> setting it to Passive worked.
[18:46] <Solarbaby> I shouldn't have drank so much this morning now my vision is blurry
[21:34] <ille_> is there any debug symbols available for mythfrontend , to make a backtrace?
[21:34] <laga> even better. you can let apport create a backtrace for you.
[21:35] <laga> enable it in /etc/default/apport, reload the apport service, make sure that apport-gtk is installed, make it crash and file a bug report. yay.
[21:36] <ille_> thanx I will try that.
[21:40] <ille_> ok, i changed enabled=1 in /etc/default/apport and installed apport-gtk and sudo /etc/default/apport restart , but nothing happens after the seg fault.
[21:41] <laga> ille_: sudo /etc/init.d/apport restart i guess?
[21:41] <laga> maybe you'll have to run "apport-cli" instead, in a terminal
[21:41] <ille_> laga: exactly
[21:42] <ille_> laga: No pending crash reports. Try --help for more information.
[21:43] <ille_> laga: will reboot, brb
[21:51] <ille_> laga: haha, Sorry, the program "mythfrontend.real" closed unexpectedly, bla bla bla your computer does not have enough memory to analyze the problem..  top shows 1008048k free..
[21:51] <laga> oops :(
[21:51] <ille_> maybe file a bug on apport
[21:51] <laga> try apport-cli then..
[21:52] <ille_> No pending crash reports.
[21:52] <ille_> time to compile ...
[21:52] <laga> you can also get the ddebs from
[21:52] <laga> http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/
[21:53] <laga> just add it like a normal repo to sources.list
[21:53] <laga> and run apt-get update and you'll get some dbgsyms debs you can install.
[21:53] <ille_> aha
[21:56] <ille_> sudo apt-get install libmyth-0.21-0-dbgsym mythtv-frontend-dbgsym any more?
[21:57] <laga> that ought to be enough
[21:59] <ille_> gdb likes mythfrontend.real now :)
[22:01] <ille_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11314/
[22:40] <mandje> ok ik zit in de gui van parted.  xubuntu install.  windows staat er al op. ik wil zoveel mogelijk ruimte voor xubuntu.  toch maar 'manual' optie kiezen dan?
[22:40] <mandje> ja en windows moet er voorlopig nig even op blijven dus.
[22:42] <mandje> sorry  wrong channel
[22:42] <laga> i wasn't going to say it :)
[22:42] <jduggan> damnright, i dont read hebrew
[22:42]  * jduggan grins
[22:42] <mandje> lol
[22:43] <laga> i was going to try to reply, but i read "parted" and i didn't want anyone to fry their hard disks ;)


[00:14] <kristian-aalborg> ibuclaw: I got the super grub rescue cd
[00:15] <thewrath> ?
[00:23] <thewrath> anyone home?
[00:23] <kristian-aalborg> thewrath: no
[00:23] <kristian-aalborg> :P
[00:24]  * thewrath comes to kristian-aalborg and gives them a "Gibbs" head slap
[00:25] <kristian-aalborg> as in Brothers Gibbs, the Bee Gees?
[00:26] <thewrath> no NCIS Special Agent LeeRoy Jeathrow Gibbs
[00:27] <kristian-aalborg> ah okay... the other thing would undoubtedly be painful, though
[02:14] <reaper_> anyone know how to recover a password for a achieve
[02:15] <UndiFineD> reaper_, meet john
[02:16] <reaper_> ?
[02:16] <UndiFineD> john is a cousin of jack
[02:16] <UndiFineD> the ripper
[02:16] <reaper_> right
[02:16] <UndiFineD> which happens to be able to guess passwords
[02:17] <reaper_> ok
[02:17] <UndiFineD> i found it funny with your name reaper_
[02:17] <UndiFineD> but john is real
[02:18] <reaper_> ok
[02:18] <aveilleux> reaper_: You mean like passworded RAR archives?
[02:18] <reaper_> yeah
[02:18] <reaper_> rarcrack doesnt work
[02:18] <aveilleux> reaper_: Why don't you have the password? Most times you find on you generally get the password from the uploaded 9_9
[02:18] <aveilleux> uploader*
[02:18] <aveilleux> one*
[02:19] <reaper_> yeah well not this time
[02:19] <reaper_> have to pay to get a password
[02:19] <aveilleux> From... what
[02:19] <reaper_> a movie
[02:19] <aveilleux> reaper_: Piracy is not condoned on these channels.
[02:20] <reaper_> its not piracy if you own the movie
[02:20] <aveilleux> reaper_: Then make a digital copy yourself.
[02:20] <reaper_> the one i have is all messed up and will not play
[02:21] <aveilleux> reaper_: Have you tried disc recovery solutions like Disc Doctor, etc?
[02:21] <reaper_> no
[02:22] <reaper_> their is no hope for the disk
[02:23] <reaper_> a friend had a copy of it and sent it to me only problem is that we cant remember the password
[02:25] <aveilleux> reaper_: The distribution of media from one person to another is still technically piracy, even though you legally own a copy of it. You're licensed to make backups of /your/ copy, not take copies from other people. It's very tricky, legally.
[02:25] <reaper_> yeah true
[02:26] <head_victim> aveilleux: also in some parts of the world making backups that change the format are not acceptable eitiher (eg backing up a CD to mp3/ogg)
[02:26] <aveilleux> head_victim: True that.... sadly
[02:28] <head_victim> aveilleux: The hard part is I'm sure the laws are all slightly different from place to place making what some people think is ok not ok for others.
[02:28] <head_victim> I'm not even 100% certain the limits in my own country as it's all so confusing.
[02:31] <reaper_> very true
[02:37] <hakimsheriff> am I allowed to use a luanchpad account as an open id on oter websites not realted to Ubuntu>
[02:37] <pleia2> yep
[02:37] <aveilleux> hakimsheriff: Yes
[02:38] <hakimsheriff> okay thx
[02:38] <aveilleux> hakimsheriff: Though you might have to change the https: with http:
[02:38] <aveilleux> hakimsheriff: Some sites can't parse https: properly.
[02:38] <hakimsheriff> thx
[02:39] <hakimsheriff> <re you guys part of the ubuntu beginners team?
[02:39] <hakimsheriff> **are
[02:40] <Dutch70> what would be the purpose of doing that?
[02:40] <aveilleux> hakimsheriff: I'm a Padawan, not really a full member
[02:40] <hakimsheriff> wait lets talk un #ubuntu-beginner team
[02:41] <aveilleux> Dutch70: Changing the https: to http:? Some websites that use OpenID authentication can't properly handle https: referrer URLs, so changing it to http: makes it work. Launchpad automatically forwards to the encrypted https: address to log in, though.
[02:42] <Dutch70> sorry, should of been more clear...what is the purpose of using a launchpad acct as an open id on other websites? Not exactly sure what an open id is.
[02:43] <hakimsheriff> It lets you login to the website without having to create a account on that website
[02:43] <aveilleux> Dutch70: OpenID is a system that enables user to use a single account to login to many websites.
[02:43] <hakimsheriff> Like "connect with facebooK" thing
[02:43] <aveilleux> Dutch70: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenID
[02:43] <Dutch70> oh...lol, sweet
[02:44] <Dutch70> Thank you
[02:44] <Dutch70> nice peice of info
[02:45] <hakimsheriff> is it better to dual-boot or use a virtual machine to play games that can only be played on windows and don't work with wine?
[02:45] <aveilleux> hakimsheriff: Dual-boot. Virtualization MURDERS the video performance.
[02:46] <Dutch70> Does anyone have any idea why I would be able to run Ubuntu 10.10 from a live usb on an older pc, but Lubuntu seems to get stuck on the load page with the 4 dots...still flashing?
[02:46] <hakimsheriff> thx a lot
[02:47] <head_victim> Dutch70: I had a problem with that screen where it wouldn't find the correct drive. When it's sitting on that screen press an arrow keey and it should drop you to cli and you can see the errors coming through. If you can then google what seems to be coming through that should help;
[02:50] <Dutch70> Hey head _victim...I was wondering if you'd be on here tonight...I'll give that a try
[02:51] <head_victim> Depends on when tonight is for you, it's just about 1pm here
[02:51] <Dutch70> lol
[02:51] <Dutch70> it's 9:51 here...Fri night of course
[02:52] <head_victim> And I'm just about to head off for the afternoon but should be home tonight. Just not sure how much I'll be at the pc.
[02:52] <Dutch70> So  far I just have a flashing "=" sign in the upper left hand corner
[02:53] <Dutch70> without the quotations that  is
[02:54] <head_victim> Yep, depends on how old the PC is as to how long it takes.
[02:55] <Dutch70> Well...in the mean time, the thread you gave me "yesterday" lol...worked great!!! And I'm lovin my pc once again!!!
[02:56] <head_victim> Hah good to hear
[02:57] <head_victim> See my trick is that I don't know tonnes of stuff but I have spent so much time googling problems I've had that I've learnt how to find stuff pretty well :)
[02:57] <nit-wit> head_victim, don't give away the secrets. ;)
[02:58] <head_victim> nit-wit: hahaha sorry I'll keep it ot myself next time ;)
[02:58] <head_victim> But yeah, I don't work in IT, I don't know how to code or program, but I do know how to drive google :)
[02:59] <nit-wit> head_victim, I use google to find links at the Ubuntu forums where I actually help others or so they think anyway
[03:00] <Dutch70> lol...I'm a regular at the Ubuntu Forums & never found that thread.
[03:01] <nit-wit> Dutch70, if your loving your pc make sure you wipe it clean for other users. ;)
[03:02] <Dutch70> lmaoooo
[03:03] <Dutch70> nicee...touche'
[03:05] <aveilleux> nit-wit: awwwwwwwwwwww horrible pun
[03:07] <Dutch70> not so much...here
[03:07] <Dutch70> my g'f thought it was cute
[03:07] <nit-wit> sorry I couldn't resist
[03:08] <head_victim> Dutch70: well I'm sorry I ihave to head out but what I'd suggest is when that screen hangs just fress a few keys, from memory the arrow keys worked) until you f ind one that drops you to cli so you can see what problems it's havving. Google them and it should help. If you're still not having any luck someone in here the main lubuntu channel, their mailing list or the forums should be able to help out.
[03:09] <Dutch70> ok...do I need to reboot if it doesn't go anywhere or do you know of a shortcut?
[03:09] <head_victim> If it doesn't hit that screen I'd just reboot
[03:10] <head_victim> Bearing in mind the older the PC is the longer it will take to get there
[03:10] <Dutch70> alright thanks
[03:11] <head_victim> No worries sorry I can't stay but need to work on my resume and I need to head over to my folks as my dad does lots of hiring of staff so he helps me write it.
[03:14] <Dutch70> good luck
[03:31] <qu1nn1> newb tried the ubuntu live on a HP Pavilion dv1000 laptop ...impressed
[03:32] <qu1nn1> wifi, sdcard, got the network share, network printer, all with no problem.  Unplugged the AC to run on battery and POW! shut down immediately
[03:33] <qu1nn1> looked at the settings for power management and nothing seemed out of the ordinary.... bug?
[03:33] <pleia2> yikes, that shouldn't happen!
[03:33] <pleia2> sounds like a bug :(
[03:36] <qu1nn1> I am beta testing OS's as I am sick of xp.
[05:20] <holstein> anyone awake?
[05:21] <holstein> i made a GPG key a year ago at least
[05:21] <holstein> i think im going to have to do it again :/
[05:21] <holstein> im trying to learn how to upload to a PPA
[05:29] <bioterror> https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[05:29] <bioterror> https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading
[05:31] <holstein> thanks
[05:31] <holstein> what if im running debuild?
[05:32] <holstein> and one of the messages at the end is saying "gpg: no secret key available"
[05:32] <holstein> is that for me?
[05:32] <holstein> debsign: gpg error occurred!  Aborting....
[05:33]  * holstein found a forum post...
[05:48] <holstein> Not enough random bytes available.  Please do some other work to give
[05:48] <holstein> the OS a chance to collect more entropy! (Need 277 more bytes)
[05:48] <holstein> what qualifies as "work"
[05:48] <holstein> ?
[05:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> holstein, type something
[05:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> when you see Need 277 more bytes)
[05:51] <IAmNotThatGuy> random stuff
[05:51] <holstein> hmmm
[05:51] <holstein> Need 282 more bytes
[05:51] <holstein> it got worse ;)
[05:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> just type. it doesnt matter
[05:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> brb in few minutes
[05:52] <holstein> thanks
[07:44] <PCChris> If I'm setting up an openVPN connection in NetworkManager (from nm-applet), what is the best way for nm to access the certs and keys that are in a protected directory?  Should I just copy these or change the permissions on the files?  As in, should I do either one of the latter two options or something else entirely?
[07:45] <PCChris> (I know not the *right* place to ask necessarily, but this channel seems more active than the official NetworkManager channel, which I posted to as well)
[07:53] <hobgoblin> hi PCChris - you might well have to hang about for an answer - in the meantime have you looked on the forum or in the wiki's?
[07:54] <PCChris> I actually have not tried searching those yet....have tried the Google with no success, not quite sure what I should search for
[07:55] <PCChris> hobgoblin, ^^
[07:56] <hobgoblin> me neither ;)
[07:56] <hobgoblin> http://crunchbang.org/ubuntu-search-engine/
[07:57] <hobgoblin> start with vpn I guess - it'll get you to a wiki to start with
[07:58] <PCChris> hobgoblin, k thanks
[07:59] <hobgoblin> welcome - sorry I can;t be of more help - but I didn't want you to think we were ignoring you
[08:03] <PCChris> hobgoblin, no problem, might just have to try #nm some more times and see if I ever get a response
[08:06] <PCChris> hobgoblin, mostly concerned about people hijacking my private client key...though I just realized if they break into my Ubuntu box somehow then unless I change from the default "user you setup initially is a sudoer" behavior they can probably get to the file no matter what anyway
[08:09] <sogepp> yo guys
[08:10] <hobgoblin> PCChris: a thought occurs to me - have a look at this guy's forum threads http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812 and also his blog - there is a vpm over ssh which might point you in the rigth direction http://bodhizazen.net/Tutorials/VPN-Over-SSH
[08:10] <hobgoblin> PCChris: but I hasten to add that I wouldn't know for sure ;)
[08:11] <PCChris> hobgoblin, ok thanks again..will look into those
[08:11] <hobgoblin> hi sogepp
[08:11] <sogepp> hi hobgoblin :)
[08:47] <nit-wit> hobgoblin, helo hob
[08:47] <nit-wit> hello
[08:48] <jerk> my problem is like this: there are three audio I/O ports in my pc. only the middle one works as an audio output-- but i want at least two ports to work as audio outputs, one for the speakers and the other for the headphone. using ubuntu 10.04. can you help plz?
[08:54] <reaper_> anyone up in here
[08:57] <nit-wit> reaper_, yeah
[08:58] <nit-wit> reaper_, common man spit it out.;)
[08:58] <reaper_> need to fix drivers to play a mmo
[08:58] <nit-wit> come on man
[08:59] <reaper_> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[08:59] <nit-wit> reaper_, mmo?
[08:59] <reaper_> yeah regnum Online
[09:00] <nit-wit> reaper_, driver fro the graphics
[09:00] <reaper_> cdyeah
[09:01] <nit-wit> reaper_, run this in the terminal and pastebin it   lspci | grep VGA
[09:02] <nit-wit> reaper_, or is that what the info is
[09:04] <reaper_> http://pastebin.com/zqX6Qydm
[09:06] <nit-wit> reaper_, I usualy add this ppa for intel drivers, it might get you closer thats the most I know. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[09:07] <reaper_> ok thanks
[09:07] <nit-wit> reaper_, there aemore unstable ppa as well
[09:07] <reaper_> ok
[09:16] <jose> what version of ubuntu should I install on a laptop pentium III 1.13 ghz, 512MB ram, 30 GB HD
[09:17] <bioterror> Lubuntu 10.10
[09:18] <jose> thanks
[09:19] <andrew_46> bioterror: Standard Ubuntu will not run on this?
[09:19] <bioterror> sure it will run, but lubuntu will be _fast_
[09:20] <bioterror> but I would suggest more from for the gnome
[09:21] <bioterror> more ram
[09:23] <bioterror> it's recommended to have 1GB of RAM for the vanilla ubuntu
[09:25] <andrew_46> bioterror: I will admit I have not used Lubuntu, sounds like an interesting project
[09:26] <bioterror> andrew_46, I suggest to try it out ;)
[09:26] <andrew_46> bioterror: Just checking out the website now :)
[09:31] <duanedesign> morning all
[09:31] <andrew_46> duanedesign: hello :)
[09:32] <duanedesign> yes Lubuntu is nice.
[09:33] <duanedesign> hello andrew_46
[09:34] <andrew_46> I will admit to being a pretty solid xfce user, but there is always time for something different :)
[09:43] <duanedesign> i am not sure how different XFCE is from LXDE, I imagine they are fairly similar experience. But i have not used XFCE so i am assuming :)
[09:43] <bioterror> xfce was fast on version 3 ;)
[09:44] <andrew_46> I used Xubuntu for a long time a while back, although I believe it is not exactly thriving as focus is on gnomr
[09:44] <andrew_46> gnoe
[09:44] <andrew_46> ahhhhhhhh!!!
[09:44] <andrew_46> gnome
[09:46]  * andrew_46 will learn to type one day
[09:47] <bioterror> but I'm off for the music concert, laters
[09:47] <andrew_46> bioterror: see you :)
[10:27] <doez> Hi
[10:27] <doez> Anyone play world of warcraft here?
[10:30] <pedro3005> I used to
[10:31] <doez> Did you have any problems with the framerate?
[10:31] <pedro3005> I used to run it with wine at ~ 60 fps
[10:32] <doez> sick
[10:32] <doez> How much tweaking did you have to do?
[10:36] <pedro3005> practically none
[10:36] <pedro3005> I ran it with a geforce 8800
[10:38] <doez> Oh, I'm with AMD's 6870 and cant seem to get it to run even
[10:38] <doez> Before i installed the drirvers manually i could at least run it with 1 or 2 fps
[10:39] <doez> I thought the problem was that i ran 64 bit linux, but when i googld it showd up that it was no problem
[10:40] <pedro3005> and the same card worked perfectly on windows?
[10:40] <doez> Oh yes.
[10:43] <doez> Says here I have to run it in windowed mode, and add some wow binary stuff to wine.
[10:43] <doez> Did you do that?
[10:43] <pedro3005> I'd run it in fullscreen o_O
[10:44] <pedro3005> but I remember I did a little tweaking
[10:44] <pedro3005> change a wow setting
[10:44] <pedro3005> oh yeah
[10:44] <doez> And just copying over the windows install to the wine folder works, yes?
[10:44] <doez> The OpenGL, yeah
[10:44] <doez> I did that.
[10:44] <pedro3005> yeah
[10:44] <doez> Both the wtf config and the regedit one
[10:46] <doez> I tried adding the .exe file to winecfg, no luck
[10:46] <doez> Got any ideas?
[10:50] <doez> glxinfo | grep rendering, gives me nothing in the terminal
[10:54] <pedro3005> #winehq maybe
[10:55] <doez> already there asking :)
[14:27] <nirazio> hi can anyone say me the difference between client and server environment???
[14:29] <bioterror> what
[14:30] <bioterror> you mean Ubuntu Desktop Edition and Ubuntu Server Edition?
[14:30] <nirazio> yes
[14:34] <hobgoblin> nirazio: the server edition is optimised (afaik) for use as a server - desktop more for normal use - server has no gui
[14:35] <nirazio> oke :)
[14:35] <hobgoblin> there are other differences - best thing to do would be look at ubuntu.com and google
[14:35] <bioterror> server is minimal installation optimized to be a server
[14:35] <bioterror> but you can say sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[14:35] <bioterror> or what ever desktop
[14:36] <hobgoblin> yes
[14:36] <hobgoblin> sorry - thought that was nirazio asking lol
[14:53] <doez> I cant seem to run world of warcraft with wine, can anyone help me?
[14:54] <nirazio> Can anyone help me in setting up vsftpd??
[14:54] <IAmNotThatGuy> doez, you should try #winehq channel
[14:55] <doez> I've been there already
[14:55] <IAmNotThatGuy> nirazio, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[14:56] <IAmNotThatGuy> doez, we mostly prefer to not to use wine. so most of us dont have knowledge about it.
[14:56] <IAmNotThatGuy> pedro3005, still here
[14:56] <IAmNotThatGuy> ?
[14:56] <doez> Is there an alternative?
[14:57] <IAmNotThatGuy> no wine = no .exe
[14:58] <doez> Kay.
[14:58] <vipul> IAmNotThatGuy,  is there any new version for wine?
[14:58] <doez> 1.2.2 is the stable one
[14:59] <doez> 1.3.9 is the develop one
[14:59] <nirazio> IAmNotThatGuy, when i restart it says Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) utility, e.g. service vsftpd restart
[14:59] <vipul> humm.... wine supoort .exe file under linux right
[14:59] <doez> It does, to some extent
[15:00] <vipul> doez,  what do you mean by some extent? can you explain it
[15:00] <doez> Taken from my own experience I cant get anything to run under wine.
[15:00] <doez> Except spotify.
[15:00] <doez> It's tricky, basically.
[15:00] <vipul> ok
[15:01] <doez> From what I've heard, it is possible with a lot of tweaking.
[15:01] <doez> And searching.
[15:01] <doez> And testing.
[15:01] <doez> Trial and error I guess.
[15:01] <vipul> ok i  have some question related to account password changing in ubuntu
[15:02] <duanedesign> yeah some apps do better under wine then others
[15:03] <vipul> well just now 20 mins before i have login to my root user with sudo -s and then password then i try to change my account password with this command <passwd> <--- and it shows me a result you password hav been successfully updated
[15:04] <vipul> but when i try to login with new password in root user i am unable to log in it ? why
[15:04] <vipul> but when i used this command sudo passwd  <---- and changes my password
[15:04] <vipul> it works
[15:05] <vipul> i want's to know the exact diffrence between this 2 comands
[15:08] <duanedesign> passwd would change the password for your user account. sudo passwd would change the password for the root account?
[15:09] <duanedesign> doez: does any of this help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[15:09] <doez> It does not I'm afraid.
[15:09] <doez> Really tho I think it's driver related.
[15:09] <duanedesign> doez: i figured you had probably seen that
[15:10] <doez> Thanks tho.
[15:10] <doez> Do you know how to install video drivers?
[15:10] <doez> Or how to check if I even have them installed
[15:14] <JoeMaverickSett> doez: this might help, have a look; http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20549 (about WoW)
[15:16] <doez> Thank you. Though I don't see anything related to my problem.
[15:18] <duanedesign> doez: what do you get from this command:  lspci -nn | grep VGA
[15:18] <doez> "06:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress) [1002:6898]
[15:18] <doez> "
[15:20] <doez> Any good?
[15:21] <duanedesign> i am looking to see which driver that is
[15:22] <doez> In synaptic or their website?
[15:27] <duanedesign> doez: ok
[15:28] <duanedesign> doez: yeah there is a pdf that lists the card supported by the flgrx driver. http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/catalyst_104_linux.pdf
[15:28] <duanedesign> if its not supported by it then you use the open source driver
[15:28] <duanedesign> looks like your card is
[15:29] <duanedesign> doez: do any drivers show up under System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[15:29] <doez> Yes I found a driver for my card on their website
[15:30] <doez> Hold on.
[15:30] <doez> Says here I need to activate the driver.
[15:30] <doez> Should I?
[15:30] <doez> It's the FGLRX one.
[15:30] <duanedesign> yes. that is the flgrx driver. Better 3d support
[15:32] <doez> Alright, I'll reboot and see if it did the trick.
[15:32] <doez> Cookie to you for now.
[15:32] <doez> Thanks.
[15:32] <duanedesign> cool
[15:33] <JoeMaverickSett> my ATI seems to work better with the open source driver. :)
[15:48] <doez> duanedesign: Had to format my computer after applying those video drivers. It wouldn't let me start it.
[15:49] <doez> Guess I'll try again.
[15:53]  * holstein waves
[15:53] <holstein> how do i file a bug against lucid-backports?
[15:54] <holstein> im trying to add 'lucid-backports' to the 'in what package did you find this bug' field
[15:54] <holstein> and that doesnt seem right...
[15:56] <hobgoblin> backports is a repo - I'd file it against the package you have the bug in
[15:56] <holstein> i'll try that
[16:00] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rakarrack/+bug/691937
[16:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 691937 in rakarrack (Ubuntu) "bug report for backporting (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,In progress]
[16:00] <holstein> i think thats clear
[16:00] <holstein> i'll drop it in ubuntu-bugs too
[16:00] <holstein> see if im doing it properly
[16:20] <slashedice> hi all
[16:21] <slashedice> anyone mind helping me with a install problem of 10.10?
[16:21] <holstein> slashedice: sure
[16:21] <holstein> whats up?
[16:22] <slashedice> okay, i was able to get ubuntu installed on my laptop no probs, and thats how im actually talking to you right now, but my desktop is being a pain
[16:23] <slashedice> every time I go to install on my desktop, it will show the 4 blinking in succession lights, and then suddenly they will all go solid and will never load
[16:24] <holstein> slashedice: how did the live CD run?
[16:24] <slashedice> i think thats the one i downloaded
[16:24] <holstein> try getting to the desktop from the LIVE setup
[16:24] <slashedice> thats the one where it will basically load off the cd and give you a basic desktop correct?
[16:25] <holstein> slashedice: its the usual download
[16:25] <holstein> if you didnt search around for a different disc
[16:25] <holstein> thats more than likely the one you have
[16:25] <holstein> you'll see 2 options at some point
[16:25] <slashedice> yeah thats how my laptop started, and that disk worked fine, just not so good on my desktop
[16:25] <holstein> install or run live without changes
[16:25] <slashedice> yeah i cant get there
[16:25] <holstein> AH
[16:25] <holstein> so you choose 'run live'
[16:25] <holstein> and no dice?
[16:26] <slashedice> well when my comp boots, it doesnt give me that option
[16:26] <slashedice> it just automatically starts doing its thing
[16:26] <holstein> hmmm
[16:26] <holstein> this will be when the CD boots
[16:26] <holstein> slashedice: you remember when you did the lappy install
[16:27] <holstein> there was something graphic that poped up
[16:27] <holstein> and said install or run live
[16:27] <holstein> thats what you need to get too
[16:27] <slashedice> yeah it hangs up at the boot ubuntu screen
[16:27] <holstein> slashedice: im not sure if your acutally booting the CD or not
[16:27] <holstein> slashedice: AH
[16:28] <hobgoblin> slashedice: how much ram - what graphics card on the desktop
[16:28] <holstein> lets assume that its the graphics card for a moment then
[16:28] <slashedice> its a nvidia 250 gt and i have 8 gigs of ram
[16:29] <holstein> hobgoblin: what has happened with 'safe graphics mode' ?
[16:29] <IAmNotThatGuy> slashedice, you installed 32 bit OS?
[16:29] <holstein> i havent acutally used the 10.10 live CD
[16:29] <slashedice> no i grabbed 64 bit
[16:30] <IAmNotThatGuy> you have a live CD/ USB now?
[16:30] <hobgoblin> when you first get the cd to boot hit any key and you should then see the different options
[16:30] <slashedice> yeah,  i had no probs installing on my laptop with it
[16:30] <hobgoblin> might need nomodeset or something
[16:30] <slashedice> yeah i can get there
[16:31] <slashedice> but then it locks up at the ubuntu boot screen
[16:31] <IAmNotThatGuy> hobgoblin, I believe its nomodeset issue
[16:31] <hobgoblin> then explain to slashedice how to use it :)
[16:31] <slashedice> ok, let me fire the desktop up
[16:31] <slashedice> one sec
[16:32] <slashedice> ok it booted and i hit f6, and theres a screen that says try ubuntu without installing, install ubuntu, check disc for defects, etc
[16:33] <IAmNotThatGuy> hobgoblin, gpated is the only way I know =]
[16:33] <slashedice> thats the screen i should be at, correct?
[16:33] <hobgoblin> add it to the kernel option - not sure which it is off hand
[16:34] <slashedice> theres a bunch of f key commands, like f6 other options and nomodeset is there
[16:34] <slashedice> select that one?
[16:35] <hobgoblin> can but try
[16:36] <slashedice> ok im gonna give it a go
[16:36] <hobgoblin> it might also be useful to remove quiet and splash then you might at least see what it hangs on
[16:37] <IAmNotThatGuy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604305
[16:37] <slashedice> ok its booting and boot screen is not pretty anymore lol
[16:38] <slashedice> its still blinking through the 4 dots though
[16:39] <slashedice> ok it says unreliable cpu thermal sensor; monitoring disabled
[16:40] <slashedice> ok it loaded this time
[16:40] <slashedice> im sitting at the desktop
[16:41] <slashedice> thanks for all the help
[16:41] <hobgoblin> cool
[16:42] <hobgoblin> once you have installed - don't reboot straight away - you can add nomodeset to the grub defaults - you might just end up with a non booting desktop
[16:45] <slashedice> ok, is that something to watch out for with all nvidia cards?
[16:45] <hobgoblin> no - mine works fine without - but it's a bit older
[16:47] <slashedice> ok, is that thermal sensor stuff something to be worried about?
[16:58] <hobgoblin> not any idea :)
[17:00] <holstein> slashedice: i did that on my server box
[17:00] <holstein> about a year ago
[17:00] <holstein> and it hasnt caught fire yet ;)
[17:01] <holstein> the bios will still be 'doing its thing'
[17:01] <holstein> if the CPU gets hot or something
[18:48] <sogepp> nit-wit
[18:49] <Herr_Gunter> hello
[18:50] <Herr_Gunter> i need some help
[18:53] <sogepp> guys, how many method we can use to return grub2 on ubuntu ??
[18:53] <UndiFineD> !ask
[18:53] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[19:12] <reaper_> anyone know of a program for ubuntu that will let you record video as you watch it
[19:18] <holstein> reaper_: vlc transcodes
[19:18] <holstein> what are you trying to accomplish?
[19:19] <reaper_> like when I watch a vid I may wait to record it
[19:19] <holstein> you probably already have the file if your watching it
[19:20] <reaper_> not live from the Internet
[19:20] <holstein> as a creator of media, i would say request a copy from the content creator
[19:20] <reaper_> like youtube
[19:21] <holstein> yeah, email and ask for a copy
[19:21] <holstein> the author may not want you to copy it
[19:22] <reaper_> true but if that was the case they probably shouldnt have put it on the Internet
[19:22] <holstein> that doesnt make it 'right'
[19:22] <reaper_> true
[19:43] <reaper_> has anyone played Regnum Online?
[19:45] <reaper_> having trouble running Regnum Online says Unsupported video card can anyone help with this/
[19:49] <holstein> reaper_: what video card do you have?
[19:50] <holstein> more importantly, what driver are you using
[19:50] <holstein> probably have to use a proprietary driver
[19:51] <reaper_> mobile chipset
[19:51] <sogepp> have you ever compile driver for intel video card???
[19:52] <reaper_> no I try and it did work
[19:53] <sogepp> i can't play game properly with ubuntu, i wonder that my graphic card too low for ubuntu
[19:55] <reaper_> my laptop isnt a year old yeah so I know thats not my problem I can play Doom 3 with no problem
[19:59] <holstein> reaper_: what graphics card do you have?
[19:59] <holstein> intel is usually pretty well supported driver wise
[19:59] <holstein> but not great performance wise
[20:00] <holstein> if its nvidia, i think you'll need the proprietary driver to 'have any fun' ;)
[20:00] <sogepp> mine too, but it can't play even alien arena, seeesh,
[20:00] <holstein> although, i use the open one on my studio box
[20:00] <holstein> with nvidia
[20:00] <reaper_> Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[20:01] <holstein> yeah, so thats prolly just what you get then
[20:01] <holstein> with that hardware
[20:02] <reaper_> yeah in win7 i think it comes up as using ATI but not 100% on that
[20:04] <reaper_> http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=56251
[20:09] <Yorvyk> reaper_, what laptop do you have, some have two video devices in them
[20:09] <reaper_> sony vaio
[20:11] <Yorvyk> reaper_, which model
[20:11] <reaper_> VGN-NW240F
[20:16] <Yorvyk> reaper_, It is just the Intel video and not one of the two video ones
[20:17] <reaper_> ?
[20:18] <Yorvyk> reaper_, with you saying win7 may be using ATI I thought it may have two video cards in
[20:18] <reaper_> o ok
[20:19] <reaper_> got it
[20:19] <reaper_> to work
[20:19] <Yorvyk> Some do have a mobile graphics chip to save power and a 3d chip for when you want to play games or something but it drains the batteries very quickly
[20:20] <reaper_> yeah i think so
[20:21] <reaper_> ok I got pass the video card error not it say cant open file 'game.cfg' (error 2 No such file or directory)
[20:24] <Yorvyk> which is more fun, playing the game or getting it to run :)
[20:25] <reaper_> get it to run
[20:32] <Yorvyk> reaper_, do you have game.cfg in he appropriate folder
[20:33] <reaper_> its ok got it to run
[20:34] <Yorvyk> Persistence pays,  have fun :)
[20:36] <reaper_> yes it does, I will and thanks
[22:14] <kristian-aalborg> hi all
[22:14] <kristian-aalborg> anyone got experiences with symlinking /var /bin /swap etc?
[22:16] <kristian-aalborg> I have sort of limited space, thus I'm thinking about doing this
[22:18] <aveilleux> kristian-aalborg: That seems like it would royally screw up the system.
[22:18] <kristian-aalborg> aveilleux: why?
[22:18] <aveilleux> kristian-aalborg: Because 1. you need those files, and 2. symlink to what?
[22:19] <kristian-aalborg> I have a second hdd that I can't boot from - I'd copy things there, then symlink to them
[22:19] <aveilleux> kristian-aalborg: Why bother symlinking? Just mount them as /whatever.
[22:22]  * kristian-aalborg is dumb
[22:22] <kristian-aalborg> aveilleux: that seems to be the more clever solotion, yes
[22:22] <kristian-aalborg> I'll do it after install
[22:23] <kristian-aalborg> having  a system spread out over several hdd's is not optimal, of course... but I kind of hope it will make it faster since the second hdd is CompactFlash
[22:24] <aveilleux> kristian-aalborg: Actually, spreading the system out like that can increase system read/write times.
[22:24] <kristian-aalborg> hmm
[22:25] <asterismo> hi people
[22:25] <kristian-aalborg> aveilleux: here's the scenario, any input you may have is appreciated
[22:25] <asterismo> i was wondering if anybody knows of some irc channel about web applet development
[22:25] <kristian-aalborg> I have one 4g hdd and one 4g compactflash
[22:25] <asterismo> it's for a friend of mine
[22:26] <kristian-aalborg> on these, I would like a minimal ubuntu + slitaz + whatever... this machine is there to play with, not be practical
[22:26] <kristian-aalborg> so, I split the hdd in two and put slitaz on it and I'm in the process of putting ubuntu on the second half
[22:27] <kristian-aalborg> I'd like to take advantage on the extra 4g for more than media files, of course
[22:30]  * asterismo is wondering about web applet development channel on the IRC
[22:30] <kristian-aalborg> asterismo: #web here on freenode
[22:31] <asterismo> thanks kristian-aalborg
[22:31] <kristian-aalborg> yw
[22:32] <kristian-aalborg> aveilleux: how'd you go about something like that?
[22:33] <aveilleux> kristian-aalborg: Set up the partitions normally, then use a LiveCD to copy the data. Once you're done with that, edit /etc/fstab to reflect the new mounts.
[22:33] <aveilleux> kristian-aalborg: I'm a little busy so I can't really get into it right now, hopefully someone else can walk you through it
[22:33] <asterismo> kristian-aalborg > do you know any other web development channel? thanks in advance
[22:34] <kristian-aalborg> thanks aveilleux - I'll look into it
[22:34] <asterismo> maybe a java one
[22:34] <kristian-aalborg> asterismo: nope, sorry - have you tried simply /JOIN #java ?
[22:35] <asterismo> kristian-aalborg > I'll try that thanks
[22:36] <kristian-aalborg> not sure anything's there - if no luck, try googling it
[22:45] <sogepp> guys, how to register my id on freenode???
[22:51] <aveilleux> sogepp:  /msg nickserv register <password> <email>
[22:51] <sogepp> thx
[23:19] <yofel> kristian-aalborg: just as a side note, you could try to make LVM treat both the hdd and compact flash as one virtual drive, I never tried that with a CF though
[23:19] <kristian-aalborg> hi yofel
[23:20] <kristian-aalborg> I'm 90% through installation, should this have been done during partition perhaps?
[23:20] <aveilleux> kristian-aalborg: Yes
[23:20] <yofel> yes, actually before that
[23:20] <kristian-aalborg> that makes it easy, then ;)
[23:21] <kristian-aalborg> the thing aveilleux suggested seems rather straightforward, though
[23:21] <yofel> yep, and I would recommend that too if you use regular partitions
[23:23] <ibuclaw> btrfs allows you to create a filesystem that spans multiple devices
[23:24] <ibuclaw> ie: mkfs-btrfs /dev/sda /dev/sdb
[23:24] <kristian-aalborg> hi ibuclaw
[23:24] <ibuclaw> though it's still in development.
[23:24] <kristian-aalborg> hurm
[23:24] <ibuclaw> and commit speed is no way near as nice as ext4
[23:25] <kristian-aalborg> I don't really want my /bin to be "in development" ;)
[23:25] <ibuclaw> kristian-aalborg, when I'm ill, I don't really want to go to "a practice" ;)
[23:26] <ibuclaw> at the end of the day, you either testing or being tested. =)


[12:11] <caravena> Hello.
[12:11] <caravena> Pliss read -> https://beta.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/89800
[12:11] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 89800 in linux-source-2.6.20 "External video not working on Toshiba Satellite A130 in Feisty" [Undecided,Needs info]
[12:11] <caravena> How to debugging?
[12:11] <caravena> Problem with HAL?
[05:33] <Kismet> hi all
[05:34] <Kismet> is here any human?
[05:38] <pochu> Kismet: no, we are all bots :)
[05:38] <Kismet> ok perfect :)
[05:39] <Kismet> I have to ask something to the bot then ;)
[05:39] <Kismet> I want to update a testing result on LaptopTesting wiki
[05:40] <Kismet> but I don't know if I have to delete all the information about the test result with old ubuntu version like dapper and breezy
[05:40] <Kismet> or just add my test result to the page by breaking the LaptopTestingTemplate
[05:41] <Kismet> what should I do?
[05:52] <pochu> Kismet: you can add it
[05:53] <pochu> Kismet: for example: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerAspire1642WLMi
[05:53] <Kismet> ok ^_^
[05:53] <pochu> Kismet: it has the breezy, dapper an edgy reports
[05:54] <Kismet> pochu I thought that it wasn't standard :)
[05:54] <pochu> Kismet: what about the template page?
[05:54] <Kismet> OK! So I'll answer also to the question that I have put on the wiki
[05:54] <pochu> Kismet: I have seen that in some reports
[05:55] <Kismet> pochu never mind to template page if I can add extra column to testing report :)
[05:58] <Kismet> pochu if you have time can you answer to question on this wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting
[05:59] <pochu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeamTemplate
[05:59] <pochu> Kismet: the template has columns for each Ubuntu version
[06:00] <pochu> Kismet: sure
[06:00] <Kismet> pochu I can see only 2 columns instead Ubuntu has more that 4 version: hoary, dapper, breezy, edgy, etc.
[06:01] <pochu> Kismet: yes, but dapper is stable and supported, as are edgy and breezy
[06:01] <pochu> Kismet: so I don't know what should you do, but if those version are supported and stable...
[06:02] <pochu> Kismet: but probably there is anybody else who knows the answer :)
[06:03] <Kismet> I'll wait for Mr. anybody to answer :P
[06:05] <pochu> Kismet: you mean Mr. bot_boss :) don't you?
[06:06] <Simira> Kismet: have you had a look at the other laptop models, what they have done?
[06:07] <Kismet> Simira: I have looked that some report all the version tested..
[06:11] <Simira> Kismet: then you just do as the others?
[06:12] <Kismet> Simira even people from "Canonical Supplied Laptops" had different behavior, some have removed old Ubuntu version test result while other have kept all the testing result. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ToshibaTecraA2 and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ThinkpadX41-2527
[06:13] <Simira> Kismet: so just add the new one and leave things as they are?
[06:16] <Kismet> Simira: OK


[03:06] <seidos> hi
[03:07] <Wolter> i guess marketers are pretty idle
[03:21] <rbergeron> anyone around? :)
[03:23] <Takyoji> Yes
[03:27] <rbergeron> hi :) i was wondering if anyone knows who the key person is for doing the ubuntu surveys you guys have done in the past...
[03:27]  * rbergeron is from the fedora-mktg team and handing mkt research and wondering about maybe doing a joint survey with some of the other distros
[03:28] <Takyoji> Well, the primary contact of the Ubuntu marketing team is DPic
[03:29] <Takyoji> otherwise I don't know of other people in specific
[03:29] <Takyoji> You could also ask on #ubuntu-locoteams, which is more active, and should have someone that should know
[03:30] <rbergeron> cool. thank you :)
[03:31] <Takyoji> Otherwise this is just a community team I believe.
[03:33] <Takyoji> In other words, this team isn't operated by Canonical
[03:35] <rbergeron> right
[21:37] <MarkDude> How often is this channel used?
[21:40] <Takyoji> In regards of?
[21:40] <Takyoji> otherwise it's fairly quiet since nobody else seems to be willing to actually discuss much at all..
[21:40] <MarkDude> brainstorming on marketing ubuntu
[21:41] <MarkDude> are there scheduled meetings? Or is this done with mailing lists?
[21:41] <Takyoji> I don't think there's any scheduled meetings currently
[21:42] <Takyoji> This channel just needs more regulars rather than just idlers
[21:42] <MarkDude> People call me an Ubuntu evangelist. I have read lots on the how to do it.
[21:43] <Takyoji> and also things to discuss
[21:43] <Takyoji> have you looked at the Spread Ubuntu effort at all?
[21:43] <MarkDude> 1 of my goals is to try to help make the community more diverse
[21:43] <Takyoji> http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/
[21:44] <MarkDude> yes it has great content. IMHO it is terribly organized & clunky
[21:45] <Takyoji> What would be some suggestions of yours for improvement?
[21:46] <MarkDude> My #1 solution always involves meeting in person- if at all possible
[21:46] <MarkDude> or i like to say - all problems can be solved with beer & BBQ
[21:46] <Takyoji> :P
[21:47] <Takyoji> In regards of the marketing team, or just in general? :P
[21:47] <MarkDude> mid-east crisis, the crusades, & marketing.
[21:48] <MarkDude> here in Norther california we are trying to organize a big party with music & more for the karmic release
[21:48] <Takyoji> ahh
[21:49] <Takyoji> The Minnesota area is pretty much inactive currently; there is one individual that coordinates an installfest for each release, but that's about it. I'm hoping to make my LoCo team more active
[21:50] <MarkDude> more specifically - that being a geek is not a requirement. I'm a geek but, not all of of us in the area are
[21:50] <Takyoji> Yea
[21:51] <MarkDude> Ubuntu is user friendly. We use coffee shops for promoting hands on use of open-source in general
[21:51] <MarkDude> I realize not everywhere has as many coffee shops as we do
[21:52] <Takyoji> Linutop, or?
[21:52] <Takyoji> or a typical desktop with an Ubuntu installation?
[21:52] <MarkDude> It's a little less OS specific but wikipedia's beer project has helped get some interested
[21:52] <Takyoji> (just curious)
[21:53] <MarkDude> Ubuntu mostly. We also use some fedora & I also like puppy linux
[21:53] <Takyoji> ahh
[21:54] <Takyoji> Puppy Linux just needs a little modification to be more user friendly, like to the level of Ubuntu. But yes, it is very light and versatile
[21:54] <MarkDude> we practice 'humanity towards other operating systems.
[21:55] <MarkDude> puppys developer is working on WOOF. by next year it should be compatible with ubuntus repositories
[21:55] <Takyoji> ahh
[21:56] <MarkDude> http://www.tcopencircuit.org/freegeek/
[21:56] <MarkDude> have you talked to free geek
[21:57] <MarkDude> they started in portland & have at least 12 other grouos in north america
[21:57] <Takyoji> Haven't heard of them previously if I remember correctly
[21:57] <MarkDude> we are also trying to do the same here in norcal.
[21:58] <MarkDude> freegeek portland rocks - they are a great resource. I met someone from twincities there last year
[21:58] <Takyoji> ahh
[21:58] <MarkDude> I know they would be good to at least partner with
[21:59] <Takyoji> Apparently a few parts of their website are undermaintained it seems
[21:59] <Takyoji> but yea
[21:59] <Takyoji> I'm about an hour away from the Twin Cities
[21:59] <MarkDude> freegeek.org has been around since 2000
[22:00] <MarkDude> might be worth an email though
[22:00] <Takyoji> yea
[22:00] <MarkDude> I am part of some local lugs
[22:00] <MarkDude> & a forming non-profit  called gidgetkitchen.org
[22:02] <MarkDude> I like diversity & many users groups are mostly white dudes (like me)
[22:02] <Takyoji> :P
[22:03] <MarkDude> Hopefully some of the idlers have some ideas on creating big events. email mark [at] gidgetkitchen.org
[22:03] <MarkDude> do you always carry some CDs with you?
[22:03] <Takyoji> otherwise you're also free to talk to me via Jabber/Google Talk
[22:04] <Takyoji> Yes, I always carry CDs in fact.
[22:04] <Takyoji> I don't the official ones though; just ones I've burned on my own
[22:07] <MarkDude> Grantbow does the same - he thinks it represents the grassroots nature of ubnut maybe better
[22:07] <Takyoji> interesting Wordpress theme by the way
[22:08] <Takyoji> and content as well
[22:08] <Takyoji> Right now I'm trying to think of how to structure an afterschool group I'll be starting in about 9 days; working on the slideshow for it right now
[22:09] <MarkDude> thank you.
[22:10] <MarkDude> find allies & use a logo.
[22:10] <Takyoji> People interested were surveyed on what topic they'd be interested in for the group, the primary aspect was web design. I intend to additionally do a little FOSS advocacy through it as well
[22:11] <MarkDude> at one point i was using a picture of tux. & had the caption who the heck is tux the penguin & what the $%@# does he have to do with me?
[22:11] <MarkDude> it worked to create some interest
[22:11] <Takyoji> heh ahh
[22:13] <MarkDude> good luck on the slideshow. contact freegeek they can really help even if you just have reciprocal links
[22:33] <Takyoji> otherwise be sure to be on this channel regularly; so hopefully there can be more activity/discussion possible in this channel
[22:59] <MarkDude> takyoji: thanx I will try to do that. good luck on your ventures


[13:18] <rbasak> infinity: ^^ pretty please
[13:18] <rbasak> Oh. Auto accepted. Never mind. Of course it's in universe and not seeded.
[14:23] <gaughen> stgraber, slangasek - Would one of you have a look at the walinuxagent FFE pretty please - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1442392
[14:50] <zul> Can someone please promote python-pysaml2 please (lp: #1407695)
[14:53] <stgraber> gaughen: added to my todo, should get to it later today if slangasek doesn't beat me to it
[14:54] <gaughen> thanks stgraber!
[15:58] <stgraber> oops, forgot to pass the auto-approve flag ^
[16:38] <stgraber> gaughen, utlemming: so I'm confused, that FFe (bug 1442392) appears to only list bugfixes, what's the added/removed/changed "feature" in there?
[18:46] <LocutusOfBorg1> can anybody please process fglrx trusty new queue?
[19:24] <infinity> rbasak: ^-- That one builds on all arches.
[19:25] <infinity> rbasak: And submitted upstream as https://github.com/docker/libcontainer/pull/524
[20:52] <utlemming> stgraber: in re to FFe (bug 1442392) for walinuxagent, this is mostly a bug fix upgrade. But there is code that supports other things that made me think that a FFe was in order.
[20:53] <utlemming> stgraber: for example, there is code for GPT partitioning of the ephemeral device, but it won't be hit by a normal Ubuntu user. Or CoreOS support.
[20:55] <stgraber> utlemming: ok, granted
[20:59] <gaughen> stgraber, thanks!
[21:01] <utlemming> stgraber: awesome, thank you
[21:38] <rbasak> infinity: thank you!
[21:39] <infinity> rbasak: Of course, now I feel dirty because my name will end up in the docker AUTHORS file.
[21:41] <rbasak> :-P
[21:42] <infinity> rbasak: Not that it should, really, my commits weren't exactly copyrightable, but they don't seem to make the distinction. :P


[22:32] <bkerensa> micahg: do you know of any bug in firefox that would make gvfsd-meta use 100% CPU and make firefox unresponsive when I download anything in the browser?
[22:44] <micahg> bkerensa: I could see if theoretically being possible, but I know of no such bug
[22:46] <bkerensa> ok
[22:46] <bkerensa> micahg: I think I will watch my logs and try and see whats going on


[02:25] <IamR00T> can anyone help me with ipsec? i tried to verify the install and portfowarding failed and i dont know why
[02:27] <bradthepizzaman> hello?
[02:57] <pmatulis> hello
[03:52] <bradthepizzaman_> can anyone help me with ipsec? i tried to verify the install and portfowarding failed and i dont know why
[09:38] <samba35> i am planning to build a system for virtualization server with 4-5 guest ,with 16 gb ram ,which board and cpu do you recommand ,i want to use pci passthrougt
[10:04] <lordievader> Good morning.
[15:39] <blackyboy> Hi any one used icinga ? How can i add my client machines with icinga server ? Did i want to install nrpe package in both client and server machines ? Now i have installed icinga2 and its working fine only localhost as now under monitoring, I want to add some of the live production Servers to icinga now
[15:46] <andol> blackyboy: For starters, how about addding some config to the Icinga server, pointing out those machines you want to monitor? Just to perform external checks that is all you need. If you want to be able to have Icinga perform local checks on other machines then nrpe is an option. Personally I prefer using check_by_ssh, having the Icinga server use an ssh login to perform local checks.
[15:48] <andol> blackyboy: This is also where I probably need to go a bit RTFM on you, given that Icinga really is a tool you need to know a bit about before you can properly use it.
[15:58] <blackyboy> ok let me search for check_by_ssh
[16:09] <andol> blackyboy: Nah, don't cherry-pick like that, start with some basic documentation.
[17:57] <squashua> Hey there :)
[17:57] <squashua> My Ubuntu 14.04.1 VPS won't show anything in /var/www
[17:58] <squashua> I think I've probably messed up the permissions... I'm using Apache.
[17:58] <squashua> Version 2.4.7
[17:58] <squashua> I'd be grateful for any help anybody could give :)
[17:58] <squashua> The directory listing is blank and it won't show any files.
[17:59] <squashua> IP address is <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:01] <squashua> It just 404s everything
[18:02] <squashua> Hello??
[18:03] <squashua> Oh never mind got some help from a friend :) turns out the document root was set wrong. Sorry if I took up lots of your time :)
[21:06] <Prezident> /join #ubuntu-se


[21:29] <akiva> Error creating textual authentication agent: Error opening current controlling terminal for the process (`/dev/tty'): No such device or address
[21:29] <akiva> ---Task exited with errors, please check the output---
[21:30] <akiva> can't create arm target. this is bugging me.