[00:00] <wp_> Slart: thx... I found something that I maybe can use ;9
[00:00] <fbc> does ubuntu have an AUTOMATOR like application? You know like the one on a MAC with a gui?
[00:00] <Slart> wp_: alright.. what was it?
[00:00] <Stanlin> help, how can i debug booting problems???
[00:01] <jkenn337> hey, if anyone can help me get ubuntu up and running on my dell dimension8200 can you email me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:01] <Delvien> Stanlin whats the issue?
[00:01] <Slart> fbc: I don't know about the others but I have no idea what you're talking about.. I'm .. using ubuntu.. *surprise* =)
[00:01] <wp_> found the gid
[00:01] <jkenn337> that's<EMAIL_ADDRESS>... my name is Josh.
[00:01] <fbc> Stanlin, there's alog that get created upon boot, you might want to check that
[00:01] <Slart> wp_: that sounds familiar
[00:01] <sthiago> Anyone succeded running 8.10 under a VIA chrome9 HC igp?
[00:02] <Stanlin> Delvien: my ATI drivers are missing, the boot hangs, but pushing CTRL + ALT+ DEL continues and boots, but i have no clue where is stucked, is there a way to remove the splash Ubuntu logo and follow the booting messages?
[00:02] <fbc> Slart, ? what are you talking about? which question were you responding to?
[00:03] <Delvien> Stalin boot to recovery mode from grub
[00:03] <matthias__> how can i check if an unit is recognized by ubuntu but not mounted ??
[00:03] <fbc> Stanlin, SYSTEM>>ADMINISTRATION>>system log
[00:03] <Delvien> matthias__: unit?
[00:03] <matthias__> by the USB port
[00:03] <Slart> fbc: "does ubuntu have an AUTOMATOR like application? You know like the one on a MAC with a gui?" I have no idea what AUTOMATOR is..
[00:03] <matthias__> Delvien:  yes i have bought an Zen mp3 player but when i connectthe supplided USB able no icon show up on the desktop ...
[00:03] <Stanlin> fbc thanks
[00:04] <Delvien> matthias__: in a terminal "mount" without quotes, pastebin the results
[00:05] <sthiago> Is it even possible to run chrome9? i cant even get to any  useful screen, on recovery mode i can run root command line, but my attempts didn't work..
[00:05] <matthias__> Delvien:  okey hold on ...
[00:05] <[e]Lement> Is there any quick way in Gnome to change the default icon size, and how far they are spaced apart in columns?
[00:05] <fbc> Slart,  Ahh.. automator is a macro language for the interface.. for example you right click on a file and have it open up in gimp change it into sepia and save it as a gif then open it in thunderbird and attach it to an email
[00:06] <fbc> Slart, On a mac it's very powerful and you can automate alot of tedious tasks.
[00:06] <matthias__> Delvien: http://pastebin.com/d6d8768ff
[00:06] <Slart> fbc: ahh.. well..that sounds very handy.. the only thing I've seen that even comes close would be xmacro.. but I think it's a bit more primitive
[00:07] <spottedzebra> went to ubuntu off topic but they were not helpful. my ext hd recently stopped mounting on windows and ubuntu, the last os it mounted to was ubuntu. it has been experienced to normal usage except dropped a few times ( but i think this is normal, some dont)
[00:07] <hischild> Slart, that's called command line?
[00:07] <Slart> fbc: but I most linux people would use a script
[00:07] <Delvien> matthias__: ok, doesnt look like its recognizing the mp3 player, do a "dmesg" in a terminal and pastebin the results
[00:08] <fbc> Slart, yeah but you can't script inside a program.. you can write a script that will open gimp, but not control it once it's open. right?
[00:08] <spottedzebra> any ideas would be greatly appericated
[00:08] <Slart> fbc: never say never with linux.. most stuff has some kind of python interface or similar
[00:08] <Delvien> spottedzebra: could be that the Hardware failed, is it plugged in right now?
[00:08] <hischild> fbc, but you can use a script to do whatever you would want to have done. Besides, most apps understand CLI commands.
[00:08] <Slart> fbc: and lets not forget.. everything you can do in Gimp you can probably do with imagemagick =)
[00:09] <spottedzebra> Delvien, no but i can get it if you have any ideas
[00:09] <Delvien> spottedzebra: get it, plug it in
[00:09] <justizin> fbc: learn about gnustep if you like mac-style of development, both are based on NeXTStep.
[00:09] <spottedzebra> one second
[00:10] <justizin> also etoile for progressively similar desktop env
[00:10] <sthiago> VIA Chrome9 on 8.10 ne1?
[00:10] <justizin> have to build both from source, no ubuntu packages, to get latest code working, very interesting, not sure how stable.
[00:10] <wp_> Slart: I dound a command under the vfat sying "       uid=value and gid=value" but how do I use that to make gid 46? I tried gid=46, gid 46 and 46 without results
[00:10] <matthias__> Delvien:  http://pastebin.com/d1e7ae445
[00:10]  * justizin has thought of building a GNOMEStep env to have ObjC and CoreFoundation+friend wrapped around GNOME.
[00:11] <Slart> wp_: I'm not sure.. have you tried googling for it? there must be some kind of tutorial out there
[00:11] <spottedzebra> ocRob, you still in here
[00:11] <dbu> hi, this is a gstreamer question, what package do i need to run the gstreamer plugin ffenc_h264p i have gstreamer0.10-plugins- good,ugly,bad,ffmpeg, but it is not in the list in gst-inspect...
[00:11] <fbc> Slart, justizin , Yeah, i was just hoping there was something user friendly already made. That maybe even included a wizard that would walk you through creating your first macro or something of the like.
[00:11] <spottedzebra> Delvien, plugged in. ps im in windows
[00:12] <wp_> Slart: I have seen this kind of documentation before in the man pages, but never had to use it... but I google it then
[00:12] <Delvien> matthias__: new low speed USB device using ehci_hcd & new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd |||| Do you have your bios set to non-standard full/low speed?
[00:12] <justizin> fbc: the environment isn't architecturally similar.  automator relies upon the NeXTStep-derived APIs in OSX's Cocoa..
[00:12] <matthias__> Delvien:  just like to ask you, i have in my linux at work dissabled some tty:s but do not remeber if i did the same here ???, do not think so, i have an USB hub connected top the computer and working but still can i, i have 6 usb connections on the computer and right now using 2 USB ports connected
[00:12] <justizin> sadly, Apple just isn't as excited about F/OSS as I wish they were.  I love my mac's UI, and my ubuntu's console.  it's a sad divergene IMO. :/
[00:12] <Delvien> spottedzebra:I don't assist with windows, can you boot into linux?
[00:12] <justizin> I mean the freakin' company barely cares about selling computers since the iPhone came out.
[00:13] <matthias__> Delvien:  to be honest i have not made any changes in BIOS, this is an Dell laptop, what cna i do right now ???
[00:13] <Delvien> matthias__: Well lets label that as a possibilty, can you plug it into the port on the computer
[00:13]  * justizin is afraid OSX will go the way of amiga and be something most folks never see, but hear about from wrinkled geeks
[00:13] <justizin> (and which isn't, thusly, able to positively influence continued development)
[00:13] <Slart> fbc: mm.. there might very well be something out there but I haven't seen it.. and I think the demand isn't that big since most people would just go with a command line tool instead of starting a clunky interface
[00:13] <fbc> justizin, I know linux would have something better to build off of.  I'm not worried about that.
[00:13] <justizin> you're wrong, sorry.
[00:13] <Delvien> matthias__: still reading over your dmesg. pastebin the results of dmesg | grep -i usb please
[00:13] <spottedzebra> Delvien, yea do you know the terminal command for the applet; its something like /nm -applet but im not sure if that is right
[00:13] <justizin> linux is a kernel, it has absolutely nothing to do with the 1970s-style gui we use.
[00:14] <Slart> fbc: but if you're just going to play with images I would recommend imagemagick.. it does all kinds of tricks.. there are easy command line apps for sending mail too
[00:14] <spottedzebra> Delvien, in ubuntu
[00:14] <xtknight> dbu, you mean x264enc?
[00:15] <justizin> NeXT is the only interesting tech advancement since then in GUI autonomy, and it's only ever been very accepted as OSX.  assuming that our foreward-looking licensing stance, as a community, means we'll have Apple's advancements is a logical fallacy.  We only leave the door open for Apple to use Linux and license more freely.
[00:15] <xtknight> or at least that's an alternative you may use
[00:15] <Delvien> spottedzebra: Plug in the usb and in a terminal "dmesg | grep -i usb" without quotes, pastebin the results
[00:15] <wp_> A man page problem... I have use flags like -a -t -Th before now... but now I got to use a flag called gid=value.... how to use that? tried a lot of combos without succes
[00:15] <dbu> xtknight: maybe, but shouldn't i have ffenc_h264p?
[00:15] <xtknight> dbu, otherwise you may need to compile gstreamer ffmpeg plugin with h264 support inside it.  or something like that.  maybe ./configure options ubuntu has not enabled, or maybe the plugin isnt enabled in that version of gstreamer
[00:16] <xtknight> dbu, im not sure what the p at the end is for?
[00:16] <dbu> xtknight: me neither.
[00:16] <dbu> :P
[00:16] <dbu> 1080p quality maybe?
[00:16] <Delvien> matthias__: I didnt really see anything in your dmesg to say that it was or was not recognizing your mp3 player, is this a brand new one? (guessing since its christmas
[00:16] <Slart> wp_: here's an example.. /dev/sda3       /mnt/fat32       vfat       users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0
[00:16] <spottedzebra> Delvien, sorry wrong idea there, i need the command for ubuntu to get the applet that tells you what networks are avaliable near you, im not in ubuntu ... yet
[00:17] <Slart> wp_: that's for fstab
[00:17] <xtknight> dbu, perhaps.  googling it yields no results.  so i think ffmpeg_h264 would naturally include both progressive and interlaced support though.  anyway, i suggest trying gstreamer and ffmpeg cvs to isolate problem areas
[00:17] <Orchid`> erver/join #winehq
[00:17] <xtknight> ffenc_h264 i mean
[00:17] <matthias__> Delvien: http://pastebin.com/d14f85327 the Zen player is connected and the charging icon is turned on but nothing else ...
[00:17] <Delvien> matthias__: model number?
[00:17] <Slart> wp_: also this page has some info.. and more links http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab
[00:17] <Delvien> spottedzebra: Im confused then, werent you haveing a HDD issue?
[00:18] <dbu> xtknight: ty.
[00:18] <wp_> Slart: hmmmm... so i have to write "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/Sony gid=46" to get it working?
[00:18] <Delvien> matthias__: jeeeez how long has your laptop been on?
[00:18] <hischild> Delvien, yes he was
[00:18] <xtknight> yup
[00:18] <Slart> wp_: those commands were for fstab.. I think it's different when using the mount command.. hang on
[00:18] <Delvien> spottedzebra: nm-applet --sm-disable
[00:18] <matthias__> Delvien:  a couple of hours seeing movies ...
[00:18] <sthiago> Chome9 is possible? :)
[00:19] <Delvien> matthias__: i see alot of disconnects.
[00:19] <Delvien> matthias__: what's the model of the Zen?
[00:19] <matthias__> Delvien: well i have some problems eith the wireless so i am connected by cable and nit wirelessly ...
[00:19] <wp_> Slart: I am reading your wiki now... and If I change the fstab then I don't need to write a specifik mount command every time, but maybe I am so lucky that it will auto mount my device?
[00:19] <spottedzebra> Delvien, thats what i needed thanks
[00:20] <Slart> wp_: I think it will be "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/Sony -o uid=XXX,gid=XXX" or something like that
[00:20] <Delvien> spottedzebra: run that with alt F2 or with & at the end of it in the terminal
[00:20] <matthias__> Delvien: hmmm, stupid question but i can not see any model number on it or on the package but let me see the manual
[00:21] <Delvien> matthias__: IOW: name of the player, it shouldnt just say ZEN, if so, I want to smite that company.
[00:21] <Slart> wp_: I don't think you can just set the gid.. but I'm not sure.. as I said.. I've never played around with fat32 enough
[00:22] <pr0nGuy> Hi, I'm installing Ubuntu for the first time.  Is someone available who can guide me through?
[00:22] <matthias__> Delvien:  ZEN CREATIVE with 2.5 inch scrren
[00:22] <matthias__> screen
[00:22] <savvas> wp_: why don't you use ext3?
[00:22] <Delvien> slart wp_ like so "/dev/sdd1       /media/external vfat users,defaults,umask=000 0 0
[00:22] <Delvien> slart wp_ thats for my external drive, usb HDD to be exact.
[00:23] <Slart> Delvien: ah...nice
[00:23] <Delvien> matthias no model number?
[00:23] <piksi> pr0nGuy: i'm leaving in a sec but in most cases there's not much to guide through. burn the ISO to a cd with e.g. infrarecorder and boot it up, follow the instructions
[00:23] <savvas> pr0nGuy: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[00:23] <piksi> pr0nGuy: first boot from the cd to the desktop to see that all devices are detected etc
[00:23] <matthias__> Delvien:  let me check got it as an christmas present ...
[00:23] <pr0nGuy> I already put the disk in and I just started, but I'm sure I'll have some ?s.
[00:23] <piksi> pr0nGuy: and there are good well written walkthroughs on the net (on ubuntus site etc)
[00:24] <grndslm> #ubuntu has gotten too big
[00:24] <Delvien> matthias__: http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=creative+zen+2.5&oe=utf-8&cid=10599385693200212576#ps-sellers ?
[00:25] <Delvien> grndslm: you get used to it. Lots of coffee, and lots of ocular damage.
[00:25] <savvas> grndslm: that's usually good :)
[00:25] <wp_> Delvien savvas slart: The problem is that everytime I mount my vfat drive i am not able to chmod it to 777, (So I am able to load/save music files unto it) it accepts the command but nothing happens
[00:25] <pr0nGuy> piksi: I just started the installation, but I'll ask when there is something I don'tunderstand.
[00:25] <Delvien> wp_ pastbin your /etc/fstab, and also, how are you mounting it?
[00:26] <Delvien> wp_ slart i missed half the convo, sorry for butting in
[00:26] <savvas> wp_: ok, why don't you format your drive to ext3 ? I don't know the situation, but if you need it for windows, you can use the fs-driver: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[00:26] <Slart> Delvien: no worries =)
[00:26] <matthias__> Delvien:  a lot like that one but with 2Gb of memmory ...
[00:26] <UnknownUser56> c
[00:26] <Delvien> savvas shouldnt need that, if its fat32, vfat mounting works fine
[00:26] <wp_> Delvien savvas slart:  sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/Sony -o uid=1000,gid=1000 http://pastebin.com/d18b2139d
[00:27] <Delvien> wp_ why are u using uid and gid to mount? just curious
[00:27] <pr0nGuy> I'm at the "Prepare Disk Space".  I'm not sure which option to chose.
[00:27] <spottedzebra> Delvien: i am not in the ubuntu os
[00:27] <Delvien> spottedzebra: ok?
[00:28] <wp_> Delvien savvas slart: the specific purpose is that it is my sony NWZ-A815 mp3-player I try to mount and load with all my good music... and I don't think its software is to happy getting formatted?
[00:28] <matthias__> Delvien:  the 2GB version is the one, it is the same but less internal memory
[00:28] <Slart> wp_: here's a thread that looks promising.. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-333357.html
[00:28] <savvas> wp_: point taken :)
[00:28] <Elling_> so, im completely new to ubuntu, is installing a usb-stick wireless network adapter as hard as it seems? or am i missing something fundamental? i've done some research into ndiswrapper, but im having trouble getting the instructed terminal commands to work
[00:29] <memimomo> I'm getting this message after trying to get updates: "The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences."
[00:29] <Delvien> in your fstab, append: "/dev/sdb1 /media/Sony vfat users,defaults,umask000 0 0" reboot and see if that works.
[00:29] <spottedzebra> Delvien: here is the command and pastebin of what you told me http://paste.ubuntu.com/92980/
[00:29] <wp_> Delvien: "echo /dev/sdb1 /media/Sony vfat users,defaults,umask000 0 0 >> /etc/fstab"??
[00:30] <savvas> Elling_: did you check out the site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[00:30] <Delvien> wp_ "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[00:30] <Delvien> wp_ paste, save, close, reboot
[00:30] <Delvien> spottedzebra: you need to be in ubuntu for me to help you with this.
[00:31] <spottedzebra> Delvien: i am
[00:31] <Delvien> spottedzebra: You are confusing, you just said you werent. ok. one sec
[00:31] <Delvien> spottedzebra: in a terminal "mount" pastebin results of that command
[00:31] <matthias__> Delvien:  seems i  found in the forum that some program is needed to be installed if that is tru, let m check ...
[00:32] <Delvien> memimomo: add any new repos lately?
[00:32] <Delvien> matthias__: Zens require a "sync" program ive im not mistaken
[00:32] <memimomo> Delvien: no, but I did do some kind of upgrade
[00:32] <memimomo> I'm still on feisty fawn
[00:32] <wp_> Delvien savvas slart: I will try that... but I am going to bed now... thx for the help
[00:32] <Delvien> memimomo: whoa
[00:32] <Delvien> memimomo: those repos may not be available anymore
[00:33] <Delvien> wp_ anytime
[00:33] <memimomo> Delvien: so what do I do?
[00:33] <Slart> wp_: you're welcome
[00:33] <Delvien> memimomo: did your upgrade break anything?
[00:33] <matthias__> Delvien:  i saw this on the forum" ou will need to install "libnjb5" to allow the other programs to access the Zen"
[00:33] <memimomo> delvien: it broke my nvidia drivers but I recoverd with envy
[00:33] <Delvien> matthias__: well there you go, "sudo apt-get install libnjb5"
[00:33] <matthias__> Delvien:  but does it have to do with mount the unit ???
[00:33] <spottedzebra> Delvien: http://paste.ubuntu.com/92983/, here is the command and pastebin of "mount"
[00:34] <Delvien> memimomo: I wouldnt worry about it too much then, revert to normal repos and if it gives you too much trouble dist upgrade to the next version.
[00:34] <Delvien> matthias__: probably. a "handshake" is often required for these wacky mp3 players
[00:35] <memimomo> Delvien: how do I revert to a "normat" repository. I didn't touch the sources.list file
[00:35] <Stanlin> fbc what is the logs im looking for booting?
[00:35] <Delvien> spottedzebra: is the usb HDD plugged in?
[00:35] <matthias__> Delvien:  the Ipod works right out of the box and some cheaper no display players ...
[00:35] <spottedzebra> Delvien: yes
[00:35] <Delvien> memimomo: if you havent changed anything, my best guess is the feisty repos are temporarily broken or no longer maintained.
[00:36] <GreedyB> Does anyone know how to use Maximus for Ubuntu Remix
[00:36] <GreedyB> ?
[00:36] <Slart> !feisty
[00:36] <matthias__> Delvien:  another question if i like to convert movies to this screen size any default player that does that ?
[00:36] <Delvien> Slart memimomo well theres the answer, thanks slart
[00:36] <Slart> memimomo: support ended in october.. I think there is an old repository archived somewhere..
[00:36] <memimomo> Delvien: so what do I do? change the sources.list and upgrade?
[00:37] <Slart> memimomo: I've seen it mentioned before.. but I don't remember the url
[00:37] <memimomo> hmmm
[00:37] <Delvien> matthias__: you have to remember, the zen is a less popular player, therefore not alot of people are working on 3rd party apps/drivers to make it work. Ipod is the most popular and most used mp3 player
[00:37] <Delvien> memimomo: sec, ill get you the command.
[00:38] <memimomo> Delvien: I think I am going to have to do this another day. running out of time. I can just google it
[00:38] <memimomo> thanks for your help
[00:38] <matthias__> Delvien:  okey, thanks i will get back to you to tell me about this full speed thing on the USBs you told me in a while if you still are there just let me install this perogram from synoptics ...
[00:38] <Delvien> memimomo: in a terminal "gksu update-manager -d" on the top it should have "upgrade distro" or something, I do mine by terminal
[00:38] <memimomo> ok, thanks a lot
[00:39] <Delvien> matthias__:  in the bios, there is an option for "high speed usb" just check it out, not sure if that could or could not be it.
[00:39] <koshar3> how could i log events from a live session? could i mount a usb drive and pipe the dmesg outputs to a file on that? because the standard /var/ will be in dynamic ram and wont be able to be accessed on subsequent boots??
[00:40] <matthias__> Delvien:  ok
[00:41] <ruhaan_jslip> merry christmas all
[00:41] <ruhaan_jslip> i have a qestion
[00:41] <hansel> I am Jewish...
[00:41] <ruhaan_jslip> *question
[00:41] <Delvien> hanel So?
[00:41] <ruhaan_jslip> is there a way to cap HDD usage for a users home folder?
[00:41] <Slart> memimomo: ah.. found it.. it's called  old-releases.ubuntu.com
[00:42] <hansel> !quota | ruhaan_jslip
[00:42] <Tory> Happy holidays Hansel :)
[00:42] <hansel> I was joking... :P  I dont celebrate Hannukah... or anything for that matter.
[00:42] <spottedzebra> Delvien: yes the was plugged in when i excuted that command
[00:43] <spottedzebra> Delvien: yes the hdd was plugged in when i excuted that command
[00:43] <Delvien> spottedzebra: Is there activity on the HDD?
[00:43] <ruhaan_jslip> so is there a way or not?
[00:43] <zamba> is it possible to view the NAT table on a NAT-gateway?
[00:43] <hansel> zamba - is it running Linux?
[00:43] <spottedzebra> Delvien: do you mean is it running/spinning?... yes
[00:43] <zamba> hansel: yup
[00:43] <Delvien> ruhaan_jslip: could create a seperate partition and have that be your /home folder
[00:44] <hansel> iptables -t nat -L
[00:44] <Delvien> spottedzebra: usually external usbs have an activity light
[00:44] <ruhaan_jslip> Delvien: that wud be difficult to do with 4 user accounts
[00:44] <zamba> hansel: no, i mean the NAT table as the dynamic entries of NAT-ed connections
[00:44] <spottedzebra> Delvien: i moved it to look at it and it mounted all on its own...
[00:45] <matthias__> i will get back, will restart computer
[00:45] <zamba> hansel: i'm trying to debug ssh connection problems..
[00:45] <Aframester> is it possible to run OS X on a virtual setup?
[00:45] <matthias__> Delvien:  thanks will restart computer and see if it get mounted ...
[00:45] <hansel> zamba - I think you need to get http://freshmeat.net/projects/iptstate/
[00:45] <Delvien> matthias__: k
[00:45] <zamba> hansel: if i establish connections directly from my laptop to a remote end, the connection gets terminated whenever i send lots of data to the end.. but if i first ssh to the gateway and from there establish the connection to the remote end, it works just fine
[00:45] <Delvien> spottedzebra: might wanna check the cables
[00:46] <Delvien> spottedzebra:  could be faulty connection or loose :)
[00:46] <spottedzebra> Delvien: whats up with that, it does have a pretty crappy cable
[00:46] <Delvien> spottedzebra: I'm guessing thats the culprit
[00:46] <zamba> hansel: oh! looks interesting
[00:47] <Aframester> is that a no on the OS X solution?
[00:47] <Delvien> ruhaan_jslip: I dont think what you are wanting exists atm, there are ways to do it, but it's difficult ..
[00:47] <Delvien> ruhaan_jslip: this is what i found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=889765
[00:47] <irgumborg> hi
[00:48] <irgumborg> is there an easy way to add own programs to the ubuntu (live) cd?
[00:48] <Org-Mode> !remaster
[00:48] <spottedzebra> Delvien: ok thanks ill have to invest in a new one
[00:48] <irgumborg> thx
[00:48] <Delvien> spottedzebra: np
[00:49] <Jonty_> why can't I install katapult? what has it been replaced with?
[00:49] <zamba> i have another problem.. i'm running flashhybrid on a router where i run the os from flash memory.. when trying to remount / in ro mode, i get the following error:
[00:49] <zamba> mount: / is busy
[00:49] <Delvien> Jonty_ might want to ask the guys in #kubuntu, if that is a KDE app
[00:49] <zamba> so some process is keeping / busy
[00:49] <Jonty_> Delvien: ok
[00:49] <zamba> how can i figure out which?
[00:49] <Delvien> zamba why are you trying to mount / as RO? thats the dir that you are running your OS in
[00:50] <hansel> zamba - you cant unmount then remount your root filesystem...
[00:50] <hansel> you need to change the settings in /etc/fstab then reboot if you really want it ro for whatever reason
[00:51] <Org-Mode> zamba: think of / as C:\windows
[00:51] <Delvien> only better
[00:51] <Delvien> :D
[00:51] <Org-Mode> yea! :)
[00:51] <zamba> Delvien: this is flashybrid
[00:51] <savvas> Org-Mode: you can set c:\windows files as read-only while it's mounted :P
[00:51] <zamba> i guess that's for hansel and Org-Mode as well
[00:52] <IndyGunFreak> any good movies that just came out on DVD?
[00:52] <bazhang> ot?
[00:52] <hansel> IndyGunFreak: this isn't really a channel for offtopic discussion...
[00:52] <savvas> zamba: I think you're trying to use the chroot command?
[00:52] <mib_45uzc2> I just leased an ubuntu 8.10 server, installed ubuntu-desktop on it, now it will not boot up properly and I can't access it, the datacenter guys sent me this "Your server freezes while loading the Ubuntu Desktop (Xfree86). We booted in single mode to start networking but it will not start. Please send instruction on how to stop XFree from loading."
[00:52] <Org-Mode> savvas: maybe so, but im trying to tell him / is important
[00:52] <Delvien> zamba "flashybrid is a Debian package that automates use of a flash disk as the root filesystem." You still dont want / as ro. You wont be able to do much, and could run into huge errors"
[00:52] <IndyGunFreak> hansel: oh crap man, sorry,,, i thought i was in club-ubuntu
[00:52] <ksakjas> does the livecd have gparted on it?
[00:52] <mgolisch> i think it does
[00:53] <mgolisch> if not install it
[00:53] <IndyGunFreak> i've been doing that w/ more frequency more lately,
[00:53] <zamba> Delvien: 'mountro' is a command for mounting / in ro mode.. it then bind mounts parts of the ramfs over /
[00:53] <mgolisch> provided you have internet
[00:53] <hansel> mib_45uzc2: have them remove that package.. :)
[00:53] <ksakjas> mgolisch: i dont on that machine, and i have blank cd lift
[00:53] <Delvien> mib_45uzc2: My first question, why install non-server ubuntu to a server?
[00:53] <hansel> mib_45uzc2: running a GUI on a server is NOT a good idea btw... eats up all sorts of resources unnecessarily.
[00:54] <zamba> Delvien: believe me, it works
[00:54] <Delvien> hansel mib_45uzc2  I agree with hansel, thats where i was going
[00:54] <zamba> Delvien: # mount
[00:54] <zamba> /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (ro,errors=remount-ro)
[00:54] <Delvien> zamba, well ok :P
[00:54] <zamba> /ram/tmp on /tmp type none (rw,bind)
[00:54] <zamba> /ram/etc on /etc type none (rw,bind)
[00:54] <irgumborg> can i do this whole live cd remastering using a live cd? :)
[00:54] <irgumborg> i mean without installing ubuntu first
[00:54] <mib_45uzc2> thanks
[00:55] <zamba> and then every vital part of the filesystem is mounted with --bind from ramfs
[00:55] <Andre_Gondim> how may i send a message to pc in the same network, like a pop-up?
[00:55] <Delvien> irgumborg: I don't believe you can
[00:55] <zamba> tmpfs, i mean
[00:55] <zamba> so my question is still: how do i see which process is blocking /?
[00:55] <spottedzebra> Delvien: switched out the cables and still nothing
[00:55] <zamba> 'lsof'?
[00:55] <savvas> irgumborg: you'll need a second cd drive probably to burn it, because the one with the live cd will be locked :)
[00:55] <hansel> Andre_Gondim: you will need to install software to do that... or you can SSH to the box and you can create popups to :0 (their desktop) using some sort of create window command...
[00:55] <Flannel> irgumborg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[00:55] <irgumborg> savvas: i could save the iso to the hard drive
[00:55] <Delvien> spottedzebra: I think your usb HDD is faulty, if it mount with you touching it, and not other times.
[00:55] <savvas> irgumborg: try it ;)
[00:56] <irgumborg> yeah, i won't, probably
[00:56] <precision_> I need help mounting my cdrom...when I go to "Places", then "computer", then double click on the "cd-rw/dvd-rom" icon, I get the error message "There is probably no media in the drive", but there *is* a cdrom in there!
[00:56] <savvas> why not? i think you can make one
[00:56] <hansel> Andre_Gondim: but if you want to use net send messages like in Windows you will need to install a piece of software to do that...
[00:56] <Delvien> spottedzebra: in other words, I dont think its software related
[00:56] <irgumborg> i take it right that ubuntu can be installed onto a USB stick?
[00:56] <spottedzebra> Delvien: is it time to look at the warranty and see if i can get a new one then?
[00:56] <savvas> irgumborg: you might have better results if you boot from a USB with it, and remaster it as you go
[00:57] <Andre_Gondim> hansel, what is the program?
[00:57] <Delvien> spottedzebra: Probably.
[00:57] <savvas> irgumborg: I don't know if it will work though heh
[00:57] <spottedzebra> sh*t
[00:57] <precision_> I've looked everywhere online to solve this cdrom problem, but I am becoming more infuriated by the day!
[00:57] <precision_> can you please help?
[00:57] <johnzorn> what could be the reason   I cant resolve hostnames?
[00:57] <irgumborg> if i could install it onto a usb stick that would be fine for me
[00:57] <irgumborg> than i wouldn't need a live cd or anything
[00:57] <hansel> Andre_Gondim:  man xmessage if you just want to create popups from an SSH session...
[00:57] <Delvien> precision_: have you tried another cdrom drive?
[00:57] <ch33zer> Could I get some help with installing? I am trying to put 8.10 (32 bit) on an old laptop. I can't get into the graphical environment (it just hangs) so I went into safe graphics mode. Now I am at a command prompt and don't know what to type to get the install started. Any ideas?
[00:58] <hansel> Andre_Gondim: not sure which application you could install that would give you similar net send functionality... lemme google.  I'm sure one exists.
[00:58] <Delvien> ch33zer:  how old is the laptop?
[00:58] <precision_> Delvien: thanks for the response...how do I try another cdrom drive if I don't have one?
[00:58] <Delvien> precision_: you cant.
[00:58] <precision_> Delvien: of course!
[00:59] <Elling_> newbie question: im using terminal to execute some commands that the driver install readme tells me to, and some of them specifies that i should execute them "as root". im logged in as the user i created when installing ubuntu. is there something i need to do to give myself root access? the commands wont work if i execute them
[00:59] <Delvien> precision_: Well how could I tell if you didnt have another cdrom drive :p
[00:59] <precision_> Delvien: when I put a audio cd in the cdrom it works fine, just data cdrom's wont mount.  Have you heard of this problem before
[00:59] <Delvien> precision_: Yeah, is this a burned data cdrom?
[01:00] <ch33zer> Delvien: like 5 years so kind of old. Any clue how to get the install started from command line
[01:00] <ch33zer> ?
[01:00] <Vladark> Elling: preceed your commands with sudo
[01:00] <Elling_> thanks
[01:00] <Vladark> np
[01:00] <precision_> Delvien: no I didn't burn the cdrom, none of the cdroms work
[01:00] <johan_j> fins det någon svensk här som kan hjälpa mig?
[01:00] <Delvien> ch33zer: you can install from the cd using "minimal installation" in the options when you boot to the cd option menu. and then once installed "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[01:01] <precision_> Delvien: I've tried a few different ones
[01:01] <Delvien> precision_: hmm, what version of ubuntu?
[01:01] <precision_> Delvien: 7.10
[01:01] <ch33zer> Delvien: Thanks
[01:02] <lasivian_> i'm trying to connect a windows share as a mount point, but I can;t figure out why it's failing
[01:02] <Delvien> precision_: one sec
[01:02] <precision_> Delvien: okay
[01:02] <lasivian_> i'm using these instructions: v
[01:02] <lasivian_> but it says the fstab line is bad
[01:02] <Delvien> precision_:  "dmesg | tail" in a terminal, and pastebin the results
[01:03] <johan_j> how do i login to a remote server and start a x session?
[01:03] <lasivian_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently <-- these instructions
[01:03] <precision_> Delvien: thank you very much for this help, I'll do that right now
[01:03] <Andre_Gondim> hansel, maybe i can use netsend, i will see
[01:03] <precision_> [ 3235.111857] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[01:03] <precision_> [ 3235.111861] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
[01:03] <precision_> [ 3235.111864] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[01:03] <precision_> [ 3235.111929]  sdb: unknown partition table
[01:03] <precision_> [ 3235.114153] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[01:03] <FloodBot1> precision_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:03] <precision_> [ 3235.114210] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[01:03] <Delvien> precision_: sorry when i said pastebin i mean
[01:03] <Delvien> !pastebin | precision_
[01:03] <Decepticon> how to check what type of hdd i have
[01:04] <redrebel> i'm having trouble compiling bitchx in ubuntu 8.10
[01:04] <redrebel> is there a way to install bitchx through aptitude
[01:04] <redrebel> ?
[01:04] <hansel> lasivian_:  you using samba?
[01:04] <precision_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/92993/
[01:04] <precision_> Delvien: http://paste.ubuntu.com/92993/
[01:04] <hansel> redrebel - you need to grab the .deb from a Debian packages site and just dpkg -i it... BitchX was removed from Ubuntu as of 7.10 I think.
[01:04] <precision_> Delvien: did that work?
[01:05] <lasivian_> hansel, smbfs is already the newest version. yet smb: and "samba" commands fail
[01:05] <hansel> !samba
[01:05] <Delvien> precision_: sdb: unknown partition table
[01:05] <hansel> guess thats the one you followed...
[01:05] <Delvien> precision_: that worries me
[01:05] <lasivian_> hansel, apt-get install smbfs or samba says I have the newest version
[01:05] <precision_> Delvien: what does that mean?
[01:06] <lasivian_> it just says the fstab line "is bad" it doesn't say what is wrong with it exactly
[01:06] <Delvien> precision_: have you installed updates lately?
[01:06] <precision_> Delvien: just the autoupdates
[01:07] <hansel> are you using tabs or spaces?
[01:07] <Delvien> !gutsy
[01:07] <hansel> lasivian_: if you use spaces it might cause it to error out.  I think most configs need tab.
[01:07] <hansel> thats how the parser delimits them... (afaik)
[01:07] <qwi> Is there a nice command available to display physical ram configuration? ie: dimm slots with size of installed module.  I don't see how to discover it with free(1), /proc/meminfo, /proc/vmstat ....
[01:07] <Delvien> precision_: bug reports say the issue was resolved in 8.04
[01:07] <Delvien> precision_:  after updates were resolved
[01:07] <lasivian_> hansel, //server/e$ /mnt/raid cifs, iocharset=utf8, credentials=/home/*username*/.smbcredentials, uid=1000 0 0
[01:08] <precision_> Delvien: thank you, does this mean an update to 8.04 might fix this?
[01:08] <Delvien> precision_: correct, more than likely.
[01:08] <precision_> Delvien: thanks for the help.  Is there some way I can reward you?
[01:08] <lasivian_> hansel, tab or space that line still fails
[01:08] <Delvien> precision_: This is what community is for.
[01:09] <hansel> you might need a comma after the uid=1000
[01:09] <precision_> Delvien: well I guess I'll have to contribute and help someone else out later.  Thanks again.  bye.
[01:09] <Delvien> precision_: that's the spirit. Good luck.
[01:09] <lasivian_> hansel, still bad
[01:09] <wabob> im from china, good morning here.
[01:10] <Decepticon> how to see what type of hdd i have attached, sata or pata or?
[01:10] <Decepticon> wabob ni shi zhonggou ren, ma
[01:10] <hansel> dunno... I havent used Windows at home in 6 yrs... only use it at work otherwise I'd try to setup a quick share and see if I could replicate the problem.  :(
[01:10] <savvas> Decepticon: ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/
[01:10] <lasivian_> hansel, this is the line i'm copying the format from in the help file: //apollo/install_files /path/to/mnt smbfs iocharset=utf8,credentials=/path/to/.smbcredentials,uid=1000 0 0
[01:11] <savvas> Decepticon: ata = pata, scsi = sata
[01:11] <savvas> Decepticon: weird though, don't you know how you connect your hard drives?
[01:11] <Decepticon> its a remote machine
[01:11] <savvas> point taken :)
[01:12] <lasivian_> hansel, [mntent]: line 10 in /etc/fstab is bad
[01:12] <lasivian_> and that's all it kicks back
[01:12] <hansel> dunno... maybe there is a #samba you could ask in?
[01:12] <Decepticon> savvas all im seeing is ls -l /dev/sda
[01:13] <Decepticon> savvas brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 1 2008-07-07 21:48 /dev/sda1
[01:13] <matthias_> Delvien:  it works but i need the genomad2 program in order to work with the zen player ..., a but creepy, because i can not do unmount volume or eject usb device ...
[01:13] <Decepticon> savvas what does that mean
[01:13] <savvas> Decepticon: is that ubuntu?
[01:13] <Decepticon> yes
[01:14] <savvas> server?
[01:14] <savvas> maybe they're different in this matter.. urm..
[01:14] <lasivian_> anyone else have any ideas?
[01:14] <matthias_> Delvien:  i checked my BIOS and i do not have any thing about spped setting in the bios ...
[01:14] <Delvien> matthias_: do you have any media player running atm ? like gnomad ? a music player perhaps ?
[01:15] <savvas> Decepticon: sudo lshw -C disk
[01:15] <Kitkat> Guys - any ideas how I can color the my shell's prompt different? You know the part that says "username@my_host:" .. I want that to be a different color
[01:15] <Decepticon> savvas all that says is 'PCI (sysfs)'
[01:15] <matthias_> Delvien: i use VLC mediaplayer to play but what do you mean with atm ...
[01:15] <Delvien> at the moment
[01:16] <hansel> Kitkat: your .bashrc file...
[01:16] <Decepticon> atm = at the moment
[01:16] <savvas> Decepticon: wait for a while, until it shows up the command prompt
[01:16] <matthias_> Delvien:  VLC
[01:16] <savvas> Decepticon: post the output at http://pastebin.ca
[01:16] <Kitkat> hansel: what do I change in my .bashrc file?
[01:16] <hansel> Kitkat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=b6864b3991dfbdebdad091ba0b6ca73a&t=204382
[01:17] <Decepticon> savvas the command goes to completeion with the only thing showing up is 'PCI (sysfs)'
[01:17] <Delvien> VLC you dont have gnomad2 running?
[01:17] <dbu> where do apps installed with apt-get install get installed to?
[01:17] <lasivian_> fstab line is "bad" while trying to do a windows mount, anyone?
[01:17] <dbu> is that app specific, and how do i find out?
[01:17] <savvas> Decepticon: are you allowed to see hardware information?
[01:17] <Decepticon> savvas yes
[01:17] <matthias_> Delvien:  when i transfer the files yes, just remeber i sav this program as a mean to transfer file to the ZEN player and it works ...
[01:18] <Eurysilas> OK, so I noticed that now Ogg Vorbis uses OGA as it's extension. Question: can I just rename the OGA files to OGG? Audacity grumbles about the OGA files. Basically, are OGG and OGA interchangeable?
[01:18] <savvas> Decepticon: is it a dedicated server?
[01:18] <Decepticon> savvas yes
[01:18] <geltonas> i am newbie on ubuntu and learning about shell, i got question, how can i cp file witch name has two words separated by spaces?thx
[01:18] <matthias_> Delvien:  hope you understand .....
[01:18] <veloc1ty> geltonas, set it into brackets
[01:18] <Eurysilas> geltonas, Yes. Use quotes.
[01:18] <geltonas> thx
[01:18] <veloc1ty> or simply type the first name, hit tab
[01:18] <Marius_> hello there
[01:18] <Delvien> matthias_: when it says that u cant umount the drive, that usually means something is using the drive
[01:18] <geltonas> thx alot
[01:19] <Delvien> matthias_: my thought is that something is accessing the drive
[01:19] <matthias_> geltonas:  usually by using the tab at the shell it should fill in the name with / i think, try it out tyoe the 1:st 2 letters in the file and hit the tab key ...
[01:19] <savvas> Decepticon: sudo lshw -C disk > /tmp/testor; cat /tmp/testor
[01:20] <savvas> Decepticon: are you controlling it through ssh?
[01:20] <Decepticon> savvas yes i am via ssh
[01:20] <savvas> weiiird, it should work
[01:20] <Marius_> how can i turn ubuntu boot logo off? i want to see linux boot-up process in text
[01:21] <savvas> Marius_: edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[01:21] <Marius_> thx
[01:21] <savvas> Marius_: remove the word "splash" :)
[01:21] <mgolisch> remove splash and quiet
[01:21] <carandraug> Marius_: open /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the option splash in the kernel line
[01:21] <mgolisch> i think
[01:21] <matthias_> Delvien:  no i am missign that the prgoram gnomad2 does not give me any option to eject unit or unmount volume, i simply disconnect the player but i have a hard time to just discoinnect the usb cable but there is no choice todo it in another way either, just an comment okey ...
[01:21]  * lasivian_ is trying to do this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and she is getting this: [mntent]: line 10 in /etc/fstab is bad any ideas why?
[01:22] <Marius_> oh, thanks, i see :)
[01:22] <Flannel> lasivian_: Pastebin your /etc/fstab
[01:22] <hansel> dbu: do you mean like dpkg -L packagename ????
[01:22] <savvas> Decepticon: does it show anything with this command? is there a file /tmp/testor ?
[01:22] <Blaze_Boy> i'v downloaded kde4-core but it didn't work i then installed kde4 package but it didn't work i have the message dbus cannot load or something ? what should i do?
[01:22] <mgolisch> matthias_: it doenst actualy mount the players filesystem but uses some prorietary protcol to exchange files with it
[01:22] <mgolisch> just unplug the cable if the transfer is finished
[01:23] <mgolisch> thats what i did too when i had that nomad player
[01:23] <Decepticon> savvas the command you gave me does the same thing... shows 'PCI (sysfs)' ... and /tmp/testor exists and it is empty
[01:23] <matthias_> mgolisch: so no worry to damage the files or something like it can on SD cards that i mount and unmount ???
[01:23] <dbu> hansel: I mean as in I want to find out the folder that the compiled files are moved to when i run the command, so that i can use them for compiling from source to the correct directory.
[01:23] <veloc1ty> Blaze_Boy, what are you trying to do?
[01:23] <savvas> Decepticon: what does this command return: sudo lshw -short
[01:23] <Marius_> so what does "quiet" in /boot/grub/menu.lst mean?
[01:23] <hansel> dbu - oh... well once you run ./configure it will update the makefile and you can look in there...
[01:23] <mgolisch> matthias_: shouldnt be, atlast i never managed to hoss it that way
[01:23] <lasivian_> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/92997/
[01:23] <Blaze_Boy> veloc1ty: installing kde4 on ubuntu hardy
[01:23] <carmelo> hi
[01:24] <matthias_> thaks
[01:24] <mgolisch> Marius_: it disables display of the kernel messages
[01:24] <matthias_> thanks a lot
[01:24] <Decepticon> savvas returns: http://s.tazeat.com:1234/~bizinichi/paste/1230254721
[01:24] <mgolisch> Marius_: so it will be quit untill the initrd kicks off
[01:24] <veloc1ty> have you tried to install the kubuntu-desktop package?
[01:24] <mgolisch> qiuet
[01:24] <veloc1ty> that should work out
[01:24] <matthias_> Delvien:  thanks to you too ...
[01:24] <Blaze_Boy> veloc1ty: i'll try
[01:24] <carmelo> shoul i ask something someone?... it's my firs time
[01:24] <Delvien> matthias_: np
[01:24] <carmelo> first*
[01:25] <hansel> !ask | carmelo
[01:25] <savvas> Decepticon: what does this say: echo $USER
[01:25] <Decepticon> savvas bizinichi
[01:25] <Decepticon> savvas thats who i am on the machine
[01:25] <savvas> Decepticon: try: sudo -s
[01:25] <Decepticon> savvas ok
[01:25] <savvas> Decepticon: and then: lshw -short
[01:25] <Flannel> lasivian_: You have type and options merged.  It's not type,option1,option2 but type option1,option2
[01:26] <carmelo> ok tkz, i have a problem with pidgin, it freeze when i try to go to account->menagement
[01:26] <Decepticon> savvas the output of lshw -short as root is http://s.tazeat.com:1234/~bizinichi/paste/1230254842
[01:26] <Guest69097> HELLO?
[01:26] <Guest69097> does anyone love music?
[01:26] <savvas> Guest69097: HELLO!
[01:26] <spottedzebra> how do you defrag an external hdd
[01:27] <savvas> Guest69097: #ubuntu-offtopic if you don't have a problem/question :)
[01:27] <spottedzebra> what's the command or what do you click on
[01:27] <unop_> spottedzebra, on linux, you generally have no need to defrag
[01:27] <savvas> Decepticon: while still in root, do: lshw -C storage
[01:27] <Decepticon> savvas: http://s.tazeat.com:1234/~bizinichi/paste/1230254943
[01:28] <Decepticon> SATA
[01:28] <carmelo> i tried to re-instaal it but doesn't work
[01:28] <spottedzebra> unop: even an external hard drive
[01:29] <Org-Mode> spottedzebra: not if its ext3
[01:29] <unop_> spottedzebra, an external harddrive is no different to an internal one as far as the kernel is concerned
[01:30] <savvas> Decepticon: ls -l /dev/hd* | ls -l /dev/sd*
[01:30] <unop_> savvas, piping ls to ls ??
[01:30] <Decepticon> hmm??
[01:30] <savvas> oops
[01:30] <savvas> Decepticon: ls -l /dev/hd*; ls -l /dev/sd*
[01:31] <spottedzebra> Org-Mode: how do you know if its ext3 or not
[01:31] <Decepticon> savvas http://s.tazeat.com:1234/~bizinichi/paste/1230255151
[01:31] <Org-Mode> good point :)
[01:31] <unop_> ls -l /dev/[sh]d*
[01:32] <Decepticon> unop_ http://s.tazeat.com:1234/~bizinichi/paste/1230255190
[01:32] <unop_> Decepticon, i think you should redirect that to savvas - i haven't been following the conversation very much
[01:32] <Decepticon> hm ok
[01:33] <david_> is there a package for the regular xchat instead of xchat-gnome?
[01:33] <carandraug> david_: yes
[01:33] <unop_> !info xchat
[01:33] <Flannel> david_: There is.  It's in universe, but if you're using a recent version of Ubuntu, universe is enabled by default
[01:33] <krishmish> can some one help me with configuring for YUGMA
[01:34] <david_> i swear i didnt see it, ill check again thanks
[01:34] <spottedzebra> unop: was "ls -l /dev/[sh]d*" for me?
[01:35] <carmelo> someone has an idea about my problem?
[01:35] <david_> ok i guess im blind. sorry
[01:35] <Flannel> david_: No worries.
[01:35] <savvas> Decepticon: probably sata, but I'm not 100% sure, neither am I sure why lshw -C disk doesn't print any information about it!
[01:35] <carandraug> spottedzebra: "sudo fdisk -l" at least gives you a hint
[01:36] <Decepticon> savvas i suppose
[01:36] <jeff_> how do i update my java?
[01:37] <savvas> Decepticon: lshw -v
[01:37] <unop_> spottedzebra, no, that was intended for Decepticon (I think).
[01:37] <eternaljoy> how can I install Skype on Ubuntu 8.04 pls?
[01:37] <eternaljoy> !skype
[01:37] <krishmish> can someone help me with YUGMA??A
[01:37] <krishmish> !yugma
[01:37] <jeff_> how do i check for updates for JAVA?
[01:38] <jeff_> !java
[01:38] <jolo_> I have a question about TCL. I installed it using Synaptic, latest possible version, 8.3.5-13. I'm trying to install Eggdrop1.6.7, and when I ./configure, it says that my version of TCL is much too old. How do I correct this?
[01:38] <jeff_> !multiverse repository
[01:38] <gorkhaan> !openvpn
[01:38] <jeff_> hello?
[01:38] <jeff_> !Jeff
[01:38] <jeff_> !anything
[01:39] <jeff_> !nothing
[01:39] <gorkhaan> jeff: apt-get update && dist-upgrade
[01:39] <jeff_> okay thats for java?
[01:39] <savvas> Decepticon: lshw -version
[01:39] <gorkhaan> That's for everything
[01:39] <spottedzebra> carandraug: i looked at that but i can't distinguish if it is ext3 or not, here is  pastebin of the command output http://paste.ubuntu.com/93002/
[01:39] <unop_> jeff_,  sudo aptitude update;  apt-show-versions -u | grep -i java
[01:39] <gorkhaan> if you have already installed java
[01:39] <Decepticon> B.02.12.01
[01:39] <Decepticon> savvas B.02.12.01
[01:40] <savvas> Decepticon: you're using ubuntu hardy server?
[01:40] <gorkhaan> if not, then:   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras           this package contains many many gr8 things :)
[01:40] <Diiphantom> is there a command to have ubuntu detect external harddrives?
[01:40] <Decepticon> savvas, i dont think so: Linux ks361773.kimsufi.com <IP_ADDRESS>-grsec-xxxx-grs-ipv4-32 #3 SMP Wed May 28 09:09:25 CEST 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:40] <Decepticon> savvas its based on ubuntu afaik
[01:40] <carandraug> spottedzebra: which partition are you trying to guess is ext3?
[01:41] <spottedzebra> carandraug: its not a partition its the external hd
[01:41] <GodfatherofEire> Ok, kind of a big problem here, whenever I try to run a program that requires root access, ubuntu shuts down on me, need help ASAP
[01:41] <savvas> Decepticon: cat /etc/issue
[01:41] <carandraug> spottedzebra: sdb then. It's not ext3
[01:41] <Decepticon> savvas http://s.tazeat.com:1234/~bizinichi/paste/1230255770
[01:41] <spottedzebra> Diiphantom: you can check to see it they are mounted with "sudo fdisk -l"
[01:42] <jeff_> jeff@jeff-desktop:~$ apt-show-versions -u | grep -i java
[01:42] <jeff_> openoffice.org-java-common/gutsy upgradeable from 1:2.3.0-1ubuntu5.3 to 1:2.3.0-1ubuntu5.5
[01:42] <carandraug> spottedzebra: sdb1 (the only partition in the external HHD) is fat32 so it seems to me
[01:42] <jeff_> libhsqldb-java/gutsy upgradeable from <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu1 to <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu1.1
[01:42] <jeff_> how do i upgrade it?
[01:42] <spottedzebra> carandraug: ok so can i defrag that or not in ubuntu, if so how?
[01:42] <savvas> Decepticon: well.. I don't know, I would try to update the lshw application, but never mind, let's not mess it up. Can't you ask the support department? :)
[01:43] <GodfatherofEire1> Ok, kind of a big problem here, whenever I try to run a program that requires root access, ubuntu shuts down on me, need help ASAP
[01:43] <carandraug> spottedzebra: I don't know if gparted does that. I never had to do such thing.
[01:43] <Garnol> What is the best mp3 player for Linux?
[01:43] <Decepticon> savvas im not the end user, im being retailed to
[01:43] <GodfatherofEire1> Well, even sudo commands screw up and shut down
[01:43] <Decepticon> savvas as such i dont think i have support from them
[01:43] <unop_> jeff_, doesn't look like you have an update for java - from that output there
[01:43] <carandraug> !best | Garnol
[01:43] <savvas> Decepticon: i think there is a way to read information about devices( cat /proc/bus/pci/devices ) but I don't know how to read that unfortunately
[01:44] <spottedzebra> carandraug: well i can't figure out why my ext hd takes so long/ wont mount in ubuntu or windows so i am going to try to defrag it
[01:44] <Decepticon> hm
[01:44] <jeff_> !best | Java
[01:44] <spottedzebra> carandraug: hoping that will help
[01:44] <jeff_> unop_
[01:44] <Khisanth> jolo_: you can get 8.5 as far back as gutsy
[01:44] <spottedzebra> carandraug: can you explain what gparted is?
[01:44] <Garnol> carandraug: ok what are the 5 most popular mp3 players for Linux?
[01:45] <gorkhaan> man gparted2
[01:45] <jeff_> !Gutsy Gibbon
[01:45] <jeff_> !Ubuntu
[01:45] <Delvien> jeff_ just gutsy
[01:45] <GodfatherofEire1> I SERIOUSLY need help here, because I cant really operate on my system if I dont have access to any sudo commands or anything similar, now I REALLY need some help
[01:45] <Chris_Were> where is the device manager in 8.10?
[01:45] <spottedzebra> jeff: !gusty
[01:45] <jeff_> !gutsy
[01:45] <Diiphantom> gparted is a particion  program, to increase, erase and mange hard drives
[01:46] <jeff_> !ibek
[01:46] <GodfatherofEire1> I dont know if I borked something, or what, but I need help like, now
[01:46] <jeff_> !myself
[01:46] <carandraug> spottedzebra: sure. But I've checked and it seems it doesn't defrag. It's a GUI for create, delete and resize partitions of dyferent filesystems
[01:46] <jeff_> lol
[01:46] <spottedzebra> GodfatherofEire: chill man
[01:46] <dbu> !making love
[01:46] <jeff_> lol
[01:47] <jeff_> !your mom
[01:47] <spottedzebra> carandraug: oh yea i have used that before, just didn't recongize the name
[01:47] <carandraug> Garnol: I'd say Audacious, Amarok, Banshee, Sonata and Esperanza
[01:47] <neosisani> does ubuntu come preinstalled with ncurses? gcc -o bla *.c -lcurses says there is no curses.h
[01:47] <jeff_> good
[01:47] <gorkhaan> xmms
[01:47] <Chris_Were> how do i get to the device manager in 8.10 intrepid?
[01:47] <neosisani> mp3blaster?
[01:47] <LiverpoolFC> are there any good channel protect script for Xchat?
[01:47] <GodfatherofEire1> spottedzebra, sorry, just get kinda worried when my security check messed up a bit last night, so I dont know what I did wrong just tonight or what, but I need help
[01:47] <gorkhaan> chris_were: what do u need from there?
[01:47] <jeff_> !scripts
[01:47] <jeff_> !ubottu
[01:47] <Chris_Were> to see if my wireless usb adaptor is picked up
[01:48] <gorkhaan> lsusb
[01:48] <neosisani> LiverpoolFC, maybe #xchat would be better suited
[01:48] <carandraug> Garnol: they're all different. What kind of player are you looking for?
[01:48] <Chris_Were> lsusb?
[01:48] <LiverpoolFC> tnx jeff_  :-)
[01:48] <spottedzebra> GodfatherofEire: nothing wrong with being freaked out, its just not going to help you get help
[01:49] <gorkhaan> yeah, type it to a terminal:  lsusb       u should se if ubuntu "see" it
[01:49] <jeff_> ?
[01:49] <axisys> why is /tmp not tmpfs with default installation? what tool can I use to create a tmpfs /tmp w/o rebooting ?
[01:49] <Chris_Were> thanx
[01:49] <ortsvorsteher> !cookie
[01:49] <Chris_Were> how good is ndiswrapper these days?
[01:49] <savvas> Decepticon: still here?
[01:49] <Decepticon> yes
[01:49] <jeff_> !hero cookie
[01:49] <jeff_> sure sure
[01:49] <Garnol> carandraug: Do you know mediamonkey? It should more be like a music library. Mostly like Amarok but not that clumsy xD
[01:49] <mib_45uzc2> can I run a windows virtual machine on a server without a gui?
[01:49] <Decepticon> what is a hero cookie
[01:49] <gorkhaan> Donno really. in 8.10 driver support for Wifi is far better
[01:50] <mikec> is it still possible to _not_ use scsi emulation?
[01:50] <LiverpoolFC> thanks neosisani  ..
[01:50] <savvas> Decepticon: sudo apt-get install smartctl; smartctl -i /dev/sda
[01:50] <carandraug> Garnol: Have you tried MPD with Sonata?
[01:50] <foznot> i cannot tab complete in a terminal window, anyone know why...
[01:50] <Chris_Were> i have a belkin 802.11g 54Mbps, you wouldn't be able to give me any help would you? i been going around in circles today
[01:50] <Kitkat> guys, I know its possible to direct the output to a file using the > operator. But how can I direct output to my "clipboard" (ie, copy buffer)... for example, if I do "echo abcd" then abcd has been copied to my bufer (as if I selected the text abcd, right click, and hit "Copy")
[01:50] <GodfatherofEire1> spottedzebra, yeah, i know, I've just never had this problem before, and I just had to get rid of the sashroot account because I found it to be a bit of a security concern
[01:50] <gorkhaan> hold on a sec
[01:51] <mikec> Chris_Were: did you try ndiswrapper?
[01:51] <savvas> Decepticon: or break it in two commands: 1) sudo apt-get install smartctl 2) sudo smartctl -i /dev/sda
[01:51] <Garnol> carandraug: i didnt hear anything of both, ill go google it
[01:51] <Chris_Were> im trying to avoid using it, as i have had no use before, but i think im going to have to try it
[01:51] <mikec> it works fine.
[01:51] <krishmish> how can i share my ubuntu desktop with another ubuntu desktop thru the internet?
[01:52] <mikec> what chipset is in that belkin adapter anyway?
[01:52] <sloopy> mib_45uzc2, yes, IIRC you need the virtual x server tho
[01:52] <Chris_Were> its a usb adapter
[01:52] <krishmish> how can i share my ubuntu desktop with another ubuntu desktop thru the internet?
[01:52] <ortsvorsteher> !vnc
[01:52] <GodfatherofEire1> So does anybody have any idea what could cause that sort of problem
[01:52] <mikec> Chris_Were: yeah , well the windows .inf driver for it will probably tell you what chip it is
[01:52] <carandraug> Garnol: MPD is the server. Sonate is the client. http://sonata.berlios.de/
[01:52] <krishmish> how can i install vnc in ubuntu?
[01:53] <vader> hello, aptitude crashed on me and now its locked, can someone help please?
[01:53] <Boohbah> hello, i installed and then removed gtk-engines-qt and now my desktop is not using the theme i want. i can change it in system > preferences > appearance, but any new gtk apps i open don't use that theme. help?
[01:53] <gorkhaan> Chris:     http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=830561   maybe
[01:53] <mikec> krishmish: its installed as "terminal server client"
[01:53] <Garnol> carandraug: oh ok, this will speed up my search xD
[01:53] <mikec> already
[01:53] <Chris_Were> well im going to get stuck in then, thanks for the help
[01:53] <krishmish> ok
[01:53] <TestingTheTest> i can't load my boot menu when i try to load grub. i keep getting grub error, 16, 17, or 18. any ideas ?
[01:53] <krishmish> thanx mikec
[01:54] <mikec> no
[01:54] <mikec> np
[01:54] <spottedzebra> anyone in here know how to defrag an external hd in ubuntu
[01:54] <Decepticon> savvas E: Couldn't find package smartctl
[01:54] <foznot> i have tried 3 different keyboards and none of them will tab complete words in a terminal, any suggestions?
[01:54] <savvas> Decepticon: my bad: sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[01:54] <sikun> i was having problems with overheating on my laptop i just got... i noticed in the bios the shared graphics mem was only set to 8mb.. i upped it to 32mb.. now the laptop doesn't overheat.. how can the amount of gfx memory cause the laptop to overheat?
[01:54] <gorkhaan> TesthingTheTest:    MBR should be on IDE0 MASTER ( where ubuntu can boot from )
[01:54] <Khisanth> foznot: which shell are you using?
[01:54] <meff> heya, which package do i need to install to be able to tweak kde4 settings? i am in gnome and just need to adjust the kde4 apps visual stuff
[01:55] <savvas> Decepticon: then: sudo smartctl -i /dev/sda
[01:55] <foznot> bash
[01:55] <Chris_Were> this guide that im using for ndiswrapper says that i should be able to find my pci id through a device manager in ubuntu which i can't find, any help?
[01:55] <GodfatherofEire1> spottedzebra, do you have any idea what could have caused this problem?
[01:55] <Decepticon> savvas http://s.tazeat.com:1234/~bizinichi/paste/1230256586
[01:55] <vader> i get an error from synaptic saying it cant get exclusive lock, help?
[01:55] <Decepticon> savvas that looks informative
[01:55] <NW2190> Does anyone know of any data recovery programs that work on lost linux partitions?
[01:55] <TestingTheTest> gorkhaan: what's that mean ? i have vista and ubuntu on dual-boot... but i get errors: 16, 17, or 18 when grub tries to load.
[01:56] <spottedzebra> GodfatherofEire: no man the problems you have are way over my head, i would call myself an average ubuntu user at best
[01:56] <Khisanth> vader: you have something else that is using the packages database, do you have the update manager opened?
[01:56] <Mike9022> How can I install the latest version of Pidgin?
[01:56] <savvas> Decepticon: http://www.google.com/search?q=ST3250410AS :) seagate barracuda sata 250gb 7200rpm, anything else?  Khisanth, what do you mean? for the keyboard?
[01:57] <savvas> Decepticon: no problem :) I found it by accident heh
[01:58] <NW2190> mikec, ya that's all i need to do really.  Thanks let me see if I can get that to work.
[01:58] <GodfatherofEire1> spottedzebra; no problem, lookin through the logs to see what happened
[01:58] <Khisanth> foznot: bash, csh, tcsh, zsh, ... but you already answered that
[01:58] <Tillotso1> a
[01:58] <Khisanth> foznot: I have only had the opposite problem get completion where I didn't want it :)
[01:58] <clauwn> Hey guys, i have a problem at editing my software sources, there is no entry for the tool called "software sources" in my menu. can anybody tell me the name of this tool so i can add it to the menu?
 Connect your HDD to SATA0 port. In BIOS turn AHCI mode to IDE, if you have something like this at there
[01:58] <carandraug> spottedzebra: have you tried searching ubuntu forums? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=982418&highlight=fat32+defrag
[01:59] <foznot> my up arrow key will not recall the last command either
[01:59] <mikec> NW2190: its not "complicated" to me, i use it a lot. but you have to use quite a few steps.
[02:00] <vader> foznot , check to see if you have the .bash_history file in your home folder
[02:00] <clauwn> can anybody tell me the name of the software sources tool???
[02:00] <GodfatherofEire1> spottedzebra, think I found the problem
[02:00] <TestingTheTest> gorkhaan: it's a sata II.
[02:00] <donavan> anyone know where dvbscan can be found at ... trying to follow the howtos on www.linuxtv.org but  I get to the dvbscan stuff and I am at a loss
[02:00] <JumboJellyfish> server irc.p2p-network.net
[02:00] <vader> khisanth , any idea on what could be locking it?
[02:00] <NW2190> mikec, ya the main problem for me is that the partition is lost (literally).  It just dissapeared.  So i can't type things like dd_rescue /dev/sda6 /dev/sda2 because i don't have a distinct partition to scan
 That's far okay. Connect your HDD to SATA0 port. In BIOS turn AHCI mode to IDE, if you have something like this at there
[02:01] <Khisanth> hmm nope, could be a stale lock ...
[02:01] <cappiz> someone that can explain me some reasons for why only get 100Mbit speed over a 1000Mbit line?
[02:01] <mikec> NW2190: http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1902/1
[02:01] <mikec> read this
[02:01] <mikec> recovers based on inodes
[02:01] <GodfatherofEire1> spottedzebra, bug in the thermal monitoring systray icon, set the temp-alarm to sudo init 0, and I guess its glitching such that any root programs trigger it to go off.
[02:01] <TestingTheTest> gorkhaan: is the SATA0 a physical place ?
[02:01] <mikec> i've used to to recovered deleted files from ext3
[02:02] <vader> khisanth, well its a new installation that i just did this morning, wouldnt hurt much to just reinstall it
[02:02] <mikec> and other filesystems
[02:02] <mikec> foremost is very nice.
[02:02] <gorkhaan> testingthetest: SATA0 is a Port on your motherboard. on new motherboars there are usually more than 4 ports
[02:02] <Selcal> Went to suse
[02:02] <sloopy> cappiz, usually one end isnt 1000Mbit, or cable cant support 1000Mbit
[02:02] <Selcal> had to come back for simplicity
[02:02] <Khisanth> vader: you could check with lsof
[02:02] <TestingTheTest> gorkhaan: how do i know which one SATA0 will be ?
[02:02] <Selcal> sigh Ubuntu is much bater
[02:02] <vader> khisanth , lsof?
 How did u installed ubuntu? Wubi? or to an EXT3 partition?
[02:03] <cappiz> ok, shouldn't cat5 support Gbit?
[02:03] <TestingTheTest> gorkhaan: used vista to shrink hard drive then used LiveCD to install.
[02:03] <cappiz> sloopy, i know my switch AND both computers have gbit
[02:03] <vader> khisanth, what would i search for?
[02:03] <Chris_W> Can anyone recomend a wireless usb adapter that works on ubuntu 8.10 out of the box with no ndiswrapper messing around?
[02:04] <sloopy> cappiz, and the cable?
[02:04] <NW2190> mikec, thanks let me see if that works
 I see, and now u cant boot neither of your Operating System right?
[02:04] <Khisanth> vader: lsof /path/to/lock/file
[02:04] <cappiz> cat5
[02:04] <mikec> ok, anyone know if ubuntu will function without SCSI emulation?
[02:05] <cappiz> sloopy, cat5
[02:05] <Chris_W> right ok ive had it. can anyone recomend a wireless usb adapter that works on ubuntu 8.10 out of the box with no ndiswrapper messing around?
[02:05] <TestingTheTest> yeah. but it's weird. i used to use my desktop all the time... but i turned it on a week or so ago to update and get some files and turned it off... now i can't access the boot menu.
[02:05] <TestingTheTest> @ gorkhaan *
[02:05] <carandraug> Chris_W: my Lynksis WUSB54g v4 works out of the box in 8.10 (but not on 8.04 or before)
[02:05] <Khisanth> vader: then look at the FD column and then 'man lsof' scroll down to OUTPUT and see which of the things for FD applies
[02:05] <gorkhaan> chris_W: Atheros cards are great as I heared
[02:05] <sloopy> cappiz, ahh depending on quality some vendors of cat5 wont work with G-enet cat5+ cat6
[02:06] <sloopy> cappiz, preferably cat6
[02:06] <mikec> Chris_W: can you tell me the chipset on that card?
[02:06] <cappiz> sloopy, new cables on saturday then :)
[02:06] <Chris_W> how can i do that?
[02:06] <cappiz> sloopy, how can i see what kind of connecion my eth0 has?
[02:06] <Khisanth> hmm
[02:06] <mikec> do you have the windows drivers handy?
[02:06] <thebloggu> my firefox in ubuntu 8.10 is having cookie session issues, mainly google
[02:06] <sloopy> cappiz, yeah would be the best, and make sure its cat6 if your buying
[02:06] <cappiz> if its 1000 or 100 mbit connectivity
[02:06] <mikec> you can read in the inf
 so?
[02:06] <mikec> usually has some garbage about the chip
[02:07] <Chris_W> ok ill check
[02:07] <TestingTheTest> gorkhaan: ... i used to be able to boot up ubuntu on my desktop just fine.. didn't use it for about a week and now this.
[02:07] <mikec> btw, often times the ndiswrapper way will work better.
[02:07] <thebloggu> my firefox in ubuntu 8.10 is having cookie session issues, mainly google
[02:07] <mikec> case point, the driver "wl" for my bcm4311 is crap
[02:07] <Chris_W> ok
[02:08] <mikec> but b43 or bcm43xx patched for aircrack-ng works better
[02:08] <sloopy> cappiz, sudo ethtool eth0
 I see. Try to boot with LIVECD, and check if is your datas are Readeable.
[02:08] <ruhaan_jslip> is there a way to cap HDD usage for a users home folder in ubuntu?
[02:08] <lasivian_> trying to get samba working, details here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/93009/
[02:08] <TestingTheTest> where do i check gorkhaan ?
[02:09] <mikec> ruhaan_jslip: qoutas
[02:09] <lasivian_> including what i'm doing, my fstab, and what i'm getting as results
[02:09] <ruhaan_jslip> mikec: can u explain a bit more?
[02:09]  * lasivian_ grovels
[02:09] <mikec> just google for linux disk qoutas
[02:09] <mikec> pretty easy to set up
[02:09] <cappiz> sloopy, thanks - only a 100mbit here yes
[02:09] <Chris_W> id doesn't say in the inf
[02:09] <cappiz> il buy cat6 then :)
[02:10] <sloopy> yeah card will check line capabilitys and then set max speed depending on cabling
 That's piece of cake, just insert your Ubuntu CD, boot with LiveCD, then you can see every partition in "Computer", they gonna be probably unmounted. but if you double click on them, it will mount.
[02:10] <cappiz> sloopy, no - hum
 I mean your partitions
[02:10] <Chris_W> is cappiz the ubuntu recomended wireless card?
[02:10] <cappiz> my lan has 1000mbit link
[02:11] <cappiz> Chris_W ?
[02:11] <mikec> Chris_W: what the model of the card and the revision?
[02:11] <Chris_W> the model is belkin 802.11g 54Mbps
[02:12] <TestingTheTest> gorkhaan: when i clicked on my main ubuntu partition it says "(some contents unreadable)" ... but that should be normal, right ? i have root on there too.
[02:12] <Kijutsu> Quick question; just updated ubuntu to the latest and greatest, and now gnome hangs after login at a black screen and mouse cursor.  i've tried gnome failsafe and it does the same.  i also get the startup sound from gnome but nothing else.  any ideas?
[02:12] <cappiz> sloopy, both computers says they have a 1000mbit connection
[02:12] <Khisanth> Chris_W: that is not a model number
[02:12] <mikec> Chris_W: the real model. like a series of letters and numbers usually
[02:12] <Chris_W> ok let me see
[02:12] <mikec> look on the back of it or something
 I dont think so... If I mount my partition what contains my ubuntu, I can Read  and Write on it, whithout any errors
[02:13] <Chris_W> is this is? 4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318
[02:13] <mikec> hm
[02:13] <TestingTheTest> gorkhaan: i didn't seperate my / from /home so it's all one.
[02:13] <mikec> that looked like a uuid
[02:13] <Chris_W> it says its a ClassGUID
  yeah, me too
[02:14] <lasivian_> trying to get samba working but it hates me, details/fstab/results are all here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/93009/ thanks
 but your ubuntu cant boot
[02:14] <Chris_W> is have a DeviceID
 if you have Vista Installer DVD you can repair it: Get to recovery mode and type:  FIXMBR      FIXBOOT
 After this your Grub gonna be erased ( from MBR )
  Google => "Vista restore MBR"
[02:16] <mikec> Chris_W: when you plug it in, what does dmesg show?
[02:16] <ksakjas> will ubuntu live cd boot off of sata dvd drives?
[02:16] <mike1504> Is anyone familiar with nautilus?  Mine runs at a snails pace in su mode, but is fine in normal user mode
[02:16] <ksakjas> ?
[02:16] <bastid_raZor> mike1504; gksudo
[02:16] <Kijutsu> ksakjas, yep.. just set your BIOS to use the SATA DVD drive as a bootup device
[02:17] <gorkhaan> ksakjas: Of course
[02:17] <ksakjas> ahhh good business thanks
[02:17] <mike1504> bastid_raZor it doesnot matter I usually use gksudo to get there but it is super slow with sudo too
[02:17] <Chris_W> nothing to do with the card
[02:17] <TestingTheTest> gorkhaan: when i tried to copy/paste my home folder it told me i don't have the correct permissions to read it... how can i ensure /home will be safe after i do that vista thing ?
[02:18] <bastid_raZor> mike1504; sudo is not meaht to be used with gui apps.
[02:18] <clauwn> hey, can anyone tell me what is executed when i click on "update manager" in system - administration???
 U can backup it:   ALT+F2   gksu nautilus       Then navigate to your /home/ folder and backup it
[02:18] <mikec> Chris_W: do you have the box?
[02:18] <mikec> model number is on the box
[02:19] <mikec> usually
[02:19] <Chris_W> dmesg does not show anything about my belkin card. i do have the box
[02:19] <Flannel> clauwn: update-manager
[02:19] <lasivian_> why would a samba mount be empty?
[02:19] <mikec> with the model number i can find the chipset
[02:19] <clauwn> Flannel, what exact command?
[02:19] <bastid_raZor> !gksudo
[02:19] <mike1504> bastid_raZor Yes I know, but it is super slow using gksudo too.  I like the gui log in of gksudo, but nautilus moves at a snails pace using it
 but be careful, do NOT copy the /home/ directory from LiveCD :D
[02:19] <Flannel> clauwn: update-manager, perhaps gksu update-manager, but I believe it handles the privledge escilation itself.
[02:19] <Khisanth> Chris_W: it should show up in lspci's output
[02:20] <Chris_W> the onl number on the box is 802.22g
[02:20] <clauwn> thanks
[02:20] <mikec> Chris_W: back of the box.
[02:21] <mikec> how about this, can you take a picture of the back of card and the back/sides of the box and let me see it?
[02:21] <mikec> OR
[02:21] <mikec> use ndiswrapper.
[02:21] <mike1504> bastid_raZor when I use konqueror in super user mode it works fine, plenty of speed, and nautilus has not always been then way, but I don't remember anything I did to slow it down
[02:21] <magtom2003> Evening all.  Installed Ubuntu 8.10 32 bit this week both on my laptop and desktop...Loveing it, it will only be a matter a days before I'm the "other" os free.  It's working flawlessly on my laptop...but on my Desktop it will just lock up on me at random times.  Lock up as, can type move mouse, even do a ctl alt backspace...nothing, I have to hard reboot using the power button...can anybody offer any suggestions on finding out what's
[02:21] <Chris_W> there's nothing on the back. theres a seriel number on the bottom but i dont think thats it F5Dv050uk
[02:22] <donavan_> anyone done anything with TV cards ... I am trying to set up my channels using the 'scan' command but  there are no initial files for anywhere in the US... can anyone tell me what I need to do ?
[02:22] <gorkhaan> Chris_W: I donno if this should help but:      lsusb -v | grep wireless               or grep something from the output of "lsusb"
[02:22] <ruhaan_jslip> ok i installed quota and added teh settings to fstab
[02:23] <ruhaan_jslip> but i get error when running quota check
[02:23] <ruhaan_jslip> cannot stat mounted device /dev/root
[02:23] <ruhaan_jslip> help plz
[02:23]  * lasivian_ rattles a tin cup while saying "samba help, samba help for the hopeless..", *rattle*, *rattle*
[02:24] <Khisanth> lasivian_: if you are already hopeless then what is the point? :P
[02:24] <mikec> Chris_W: http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=179211
[02:24] <mikec> is this it?
[02:24] <lasivian_> Khisanth, uh, i'm a glutton for punishment?
[02:24] <spottedzebra> is there a program in ubuntu that creates a ghost drive?
[02:24] <Flannel> spottedzebra: What's a ghost drive?
[02:24] <magtom2003> anybody have suggestions for random lockup on 8.10 32 bit desktop?
[02:24] <lasivian_> Khisanth, I hate windows as much as I hate Ubuntu when it doesn't work so it's about even?
[02:24] <Chris_W> lsusb -v doesnt produce any results
[02:24] <bastid_raZor> mike1504; you're in Kubuntu or Ubuntu when nautilus runs slow?
[02:25] <Kijutsu> magtom2003, no errors?
[02:25] <spottedzebra> Flannel: its like daemontoolslite in windows
[02:25] <Flannel> spottedzebra: What does demontools do?
[02:25] <lasivian_> daemontools mounts a cd image as a drive
[02:25] <gorkhaan> that's Virtual Drive not ghost drive
[02:25] <mike1504> bastid_raZor I forgot to mention  that when I use GKSUDO the terminal has a contiuous bunch of the following ( Translate the Smiley to a P I Thiink, as I cut an pasted  )Usage:program_name [address][:port]Usage:program_name [address][:port]
[02:25] <Flannel> !iso | spottedzebra
[02:25] <Chris_W> thats the one
[02:26] <gorkhaan> try this:   AcetoneISO2    Google
[02:26] <spottedzebra> Flannel: thanks :)
[02:26] <Flannel> gorkhaan: No, linux mounts images with mount, you don't need third party tools
[02:26] <gorkhaan> I know, but why should we always use terminal? :)))))))
[02:26] <anonymice> I'm having a problem with a cron job that is not executed. crontab -l shows this: 15 * * * *     ruby /home/anonymice/myfolder/processusers.rb. I can run that command by hand but the cron job won't.
[02:27] <lasivian_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/93009/ <-- uh, help? :)
[02:27] <remu> Hey everyone....I need serious help. I was transferring pictures and videos from my MMC Pro Duo flash chip, and before the transfer was complete, I mistakenly did "Shift+Delete" in Nautilus.....I was wondering if all is lost? I have not unmounted the chip yet. Is there ANY way of me retrieving those files?
[02:27] <Flannel> gorkhaan: You can mount them in the GUI as well.  Again, no need for third party tools.
[02:27] <valiza1> Does anyone know if there is a way to save a bootable ISO (say Knoppix for example) to hard drive and then get GRUB to boot from it?
[02:27] <Flannel> remu: Fortunately, flash chips are FAT formatted, so you can use one of the undelete tools to probably recover most/all of them
[02:27] <gorkhaan> cu all, good night
[02:27] <remu> Flannel, is there one you would recommend?
[02:28] <remu> Flannel, And I am very glad to hear that, lol.
[02:28] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, ping
[02:28] <carandraug> gorkhaan: just right click on the iso and choose Open with archive mounter. It comes in Ubuntu 8.10 by default
[02:28] <magtom2003> anybody have suggestions for random lockup on 8.10 32 bit desktop?
[02:28] <Flannel> remu: I haven't used any personally, no.  But there should be something in the repository, or people here may know of one.
[02:28] <carandraug> spottedzebra: just right click on the iso and choose Open with archive mounter.   Especially compared to 7.10 and 8.04.  I guess my system is just that outdated.
[02:29] <mikec> [e]Lement: turn off crap you don't need
[02:29] <remu> Flannel, thanks.
[02:29] <magtom2003> system is only 3 mo old...
[02:29] <carandraug> remu: I've used some of those recovery software. It was in a external HHD, not a flash card but I'm guessing it's similar
[02:29] <mikec> it runs quick on a p4 2.66Ghz
[02:29] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: merry christmas :-)
[02:29] <booncer> i had a bad stick n it gave me random lockups new ram problem solved
[02:30] <[e]Lement> mikec, been there done that.  It seems as I upgraded my distros it progressively got slower.
[02:30] <remu> carandraug, yes, I'm sure its similar. How did you go about doing that?
[02:30] <solid_liq> !ping
[02:30] <magtom2003> 3.0 G, Nvidia 9800 GT, 3 Gb ram,
[02:30] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, hey (i am pixelated on my home machine) i was wondering if you made a web page with your directions on the setup of xorg from scratch
[02:30] <mikec> [e]Lement: but 8.10 is running quick on a the machine i just mentioned
[02:30] <mikec> hell, its running quick on esx.
[02:30] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, and merry xmas in return :')
[02:31] <magtom2003> It's crazy, I just don't even know where to start
[02:31] <booncer> id try it with 1gb magtom2003
[02:31] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: no, i have no web page, sorry. i have a copy of the instructions in a text file is all
[02:31] <booncer> u never kno
[02:31] <spottedzebra> carandraug: i haven't upgraded yet
[02:32] <remu> carandraug, do you remember how you did it?
[02:32] <AngryElf> the new network connection manager in 8.10 blows -- everytime I reboot it creats a new automatic DHCP connection under wired that gets enabled and doesn't use the static connection that I've previously set up with a specific IP -- why?
[02:32] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: perhaps i should register on the forums and make a post on there though
[02:32] <carandraug> remu: I tried several back then. foremost, magic rescue and another one that I can't rememeber the name. They were pretty straightforward but all run in the terminal
[02:32] <crystal> Anyone know a good program for ipods?
[02:32] <remu> mmk
[02:33] <remu> carandraug, thanks, ill look into those
[02:33] <carandraug> remu: the one that I can't remember the name was specifically for pictures which would be nice for you. I'll try to look for it
[02:33] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: err, pixelated ;), would you like  a copy of the file?
[02:33] <spottedzebra> !iso
[02:34] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, ahh ok i was remaking my 10 second quick tips file and was gonna put that in but i am at work and i saved it at home
[02:34] <remu> carandraug, I had pictures and videos....I think i was able to get all of the pictures off, but the videos are what i am afraid dissappeared
[02:34] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, sure if its handy
[02:34] <onetinsoldier> ok, hang on
[02:34] <spottedzebra> !MD5
[02:34] <moDumass> hey all, my beloved gf gave me an eeepc 900, windows, how do i linux this baby up?
[02:35] <carandraug> remu: Photorec is file data recovery software designed to recover lost pictures from digital camera memory or even Hard Disks.
[02:35] <moDumass> ive been looking for an ubuntu dist for the eee pc
[02:35] <moDumass> any ideas>
[02:35] <Tillotson> eebuntu?
[02:35] <remu> carandraug, thanks. I'll look into that as well. I just installed foremost, and am reading the man pages for it.
[02:35] <TestingTheTest> um, someone told me to use a Vista CD to delete Grub and reinstate Windows' Bootloader... i want to restore GRUB not Windows.
[02:35] <veloc1ty> moDumass, check http://www.eeebuntu.org/
[02:36] <carandraug> remu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[02:36] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: ok , sending it now
[02:36] <booncer> magtom2003 my system was brand new just faulty ram
[02:36] <remu> thanks alot carandraug, hopefully my sister wont kill me now, lol
[02:37] <carandraug> remu: the other one I used, Magic rescue I recall to be nice. It's a bit tricky but I can help you with the recipes if you need
[02:37] <crystal> Anyone know a good program for ipods?
[02:37] <remu> carandraug, what do you mean by recipes?
[02:37] <moDumass> thanks velocity
[02:38] <magtom2003> ok, We'll check out the ram and see if that helps
[02:38] <magtom2003> I really want it to work, I'm in love...just not with the lockups
[02:39] <crystal> Anyone know a good program for ipods?
[02:40] <hansel> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+ipod+software
[02:40] <hansel> try that crystal
[02:40] <carandraug> remu: with magic rescue, you have to point to a file with instructions to extract the kind of file you want. The instructions are different depending on the kind of file you want. To these instructions they call recipe
[02:40] <muse> question - does anyone know how or have a link to information about booting into an nx / freenx or nx client session?
[02:41] <lasivian_> you know, if you would have had a look at my paste you would have seen my error in seconds and I would have shut up and left ;)
[02:41]  * lasivian_ wavs
[02:41] <rraj_be> Hello good morning everryone
[02:41] <rraj_be> could any one help me with this
[02:41] <rraj_be> http://pastebin.ca/1293766
[02:41] <remu> carandraug, oh okay. I am trying to recover using foremost, looks like it is simple enough and will do the trick. I was just wondering, how do i figure out what my flash drive is located as? like how do i know if it is /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdb2 and etc.
[02:41] <crystal> hansel, I've already done that, tried about 5 different programs so thank you for being an asshole
[02:42] <carandraug> remu: "sudo fdisk -l"
[02:42] <remu> carandraug, thanks
[02:42] <unop_> !language | crystal
[02:42] <sloopy> onetinsoldier, sry i am at work and got busy, thats for the file...
[02:42] <crystal> Has anyone had personal success with a program for iPods?
[02:43] <Guest14146> are newbs allowed here =)
[02:43] <hansel> crystal - gtkpod... go to #gtkpod and ask.  Which model of ipod do you have?  What is your past problem w a specific software?
[02:43] <unop_> crystal, i use gtkpod
[02:43] <spottedzebra> what does the MD5 check of an .iso file do
[02:43] <onetinsoldier> sloopy: you're welcome :-)
[02:43] <nicolas> Hey guys,
[02:43] <tuxdistro> hey everyone
[02:43] <hansel> !md5
[02:44] <_anigma> is there a way to boot into a text-based environment on ubuntu 8.04 live cd?
[02:44] <hansel> spottedzebra: an md5checksum gives you a fairly high level of confidence that there was no corruption in the image you downloaded...
[02:44] <sloopy> err thanks not thats ;')
[02:44] <nicolas> ubuntu doesnt want to play dvds, if I cant get this to work, I'm going back to windows!
[02:44] <rraj_be> http://pastebin.ca/1293766
[02:44] <rraj_be> any help plz
[02:44] <nicolas> anybody have any ideas?
[02:44] <yzfR1> Hi, is anyone familiar with the problem of FN keys and how changing your brightness on Dell laptops makes ubuntu unresponsive?
[02:44] <crystal> hansel, unop_, gtkpod does not work with the new ipods
[02:44] <unop_> spottedzebra, creates a hash that you can compare against one compiled by another source (i.e. distributor, mirror, etc) to know if the copy you downloaded is the exact same as that on the source.
[02:44] <genii> spottedzebra: It provides a way to know that your download is not corrupted
[02:44] <ruhaan_jslip> how do i save a file in Vi?
[02:44] <ruhaan_jslip> the terminal editor
[02:44] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, :w
[02:44] <crystal> hansel, unop_, the latest version is from 2007
[02:44] <sloopy> ruhaan_jslip, :wq or ZZ
[02:44] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, or  :write
[02:45] <unop_> crystal, i bought a 6th gen. ipod in march this year that works with gtkpod
[02:45] <_anigma> is there a way to boot into a text-based environment on ubuntu 8.04 live cd?
[02:45] <_anigma> I can't get X Window/Gnome to work on my monitor...
[02:45] <unop_> _anigma, i believe there is a way .. press F3 or F4 at the boot prompt for options
[02:46] <yzfR1> Hi, is it normal to have very few lines in the xorg.conf for ubuntu 8.10?
[02:46] <remu> carandraug, foremost is running....fingers crossed, does it take a while? The maximum size of my flash card is 4GB
[02:46] <spottedzebra> hansel, unop, genii: thanks
[02:46] <hansel> crystal http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/Supported+iPods
[02:46] <unop_> yzfR1, yes
[02:46] <crystal> unop_, the new chromatic ipods must have a different directory structure ... hansel
[02:46] <yzfR1> unop_, ty
[02:46] <nicolas> oh yeah, it says when I try to play a movie, it says: "Could not read from source" any ideas?
[02:46] <rraj_be> could any one help me with vmware instaltion problem
[02:46] <ruhaan_jslip> doesnt work
[02:46] <rraj_be> the error is i cant build vmmon
[02:46] <remu> nicolas, were you able to get information as to how to get dvds playing?
[02:46] <ruhaan_jslip> when i ytpe :W vi just types that into the file
[02:46] <rraj_be> http://pastebin.ca/1293766
[02:47] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, you must be in Command Mode for that to work .. press Esc first to get into that mode
[02:47] <nicolas> remu: no, I tried downloading all the codecs but still it wont work, Totem attempts to play a movie but then it says that it cant read source
[02:47] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, and note it is :w not :W
[02:47] <ruhaan_jslip> pressing esc doesn nothing
[02:47] <remu> nicolas, I take it that this is for a retail dvd?
[02:47] <yzfR1> Hi, can anyone tell me if there is a fix for the FN key problems locking up your ubuntu 8.10? I've tried googling it and all i found were confirmations of the bug and no fixes.
[02:47] <sloopy> ruhaan_jslip, :wq saves and quits
[02:47] <nicolas> remu: YES
[02:47] <nicolas> remu: IS THAT Why it wont work????
[02:48] <ruhaan_jslip> pressing esc does nothing
[02:48] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, pressing Esc switches modes .. type :w after that
[02:48] <hansel> :q      push INSERT?
[02:48] <remu> nicolas, Yes, because retail DVDs are encrypted. And for license purposes, Ubuntu can't be shipped with the ability to play them right off the bat.
[02:48] <carandraug> remu: my disk was 80Gb and heavily fragmented. I let it ran for two days and then the light went off. Then I ran Magic rescue and it ran for a week and a half
[02:48] <crystal> Anyone know a program that will work with the new chromatic ipods?
[02:49] <nicolas> remu: OHHH
[02:49] <unop_> hansel, with regards to vi. no,  :q  is short for :quit
[02:49] <remu> carandraug, wow, okay, good to know, because I thought it was going to slow...turns out it isnt, haha
[02:49] <nicolas> remu: so is there any software available on synaptic that I should know about??
[02:49] <hansel> unop_: that's what I was telling him to do.  :)
[02:49] <remu> nicolas, yes and no. It is not available in the standard Canonical repositories.
[02:50] <unop_> hansel, i believe his question was "how to save a file" ...
[02:50] <hansel> unop_: well if he claims he's been trying :w it ought to have worked and :q will tell him if he needs to still save or not.
[02:50] <nicolas> remu: ok, know of any programs that I could search for?
[02:50] <remu> nicolas, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid#DVD_Playback_Capability and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu and
[02:51] <remu> nicolas, I've found that ubuntuguide.org can come in handy, I would bookmark it. Good Luck!
[02:51] <unop_> hansel, but he was in insert mode .. he needed to be in command mode for either to have worked.
[02:51] <jason_> yes very handy
[02:51] <dublpaws> I've got a gripe with apt pkg manager, often times `apt-get install somepackage`, and _nowhere_ is it indicated in the install scroll what the actual cmdline name for invoking somepackage.  Is there a flag available to force apt-get emit the command name?
[02:51] <nicolas> remu: thank you very much, I'm gonna look this up right now
[02:52] <remu> nicolas, No worries.
[02:52] <ruhaan_jslip> do i have to press colon and w at the same time?
[02:52] <hansel> dublpaws: you can apt-cache search SOME-COMPONENT and it will tell you the full package name... not sure if that's what you mean.
[02:52] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, no,  : then q then ENTER/RETURN
[02:52] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, or,  : then w then ENTER
[02:53] <ruhaan_jslip> when i press enter it takes me to te next line
[02:53] <pablo_> hello, is it reasonable that a package does not log anymore, before i remove the /var/log files ? i tried to mkdir again but it fails
[02:53] <rraj_be> could any one help me with vmware instaltion problem
[02:53] <ruhaan_jslip> even though i m in command mode
[02:53] <rraj_be> http://pastebin.ca/1293766
[02:53] <remu> nicolas, I personally would reccommend the Medibuntu route, because there are other programs available through that repository, things such as GoogleEarth, Skype, Adobe Reader, etc.
[02:53] <remu> http://www.medibuntu.org/
[02:54] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, you're probably not pressing : properly (as you're trying : and w at the same time) - in which case enter will take you to the next line
[02:54] <AngryElf> any idea why every time i reboot ubuntu creates a new connectin under my wired network settings and uses that instead?
[02:54] <ruhaan_jslip> unop_: i m pressing properly
[02:54] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip,  Esc then :  then w then Enter
[02:55] <ruhaan_jslip> ok when i press esc it goes to cmd mode
[02:55] <ruhaan_jslip> i type colon
[02:55] <ruhaan_jslip> then when i press q it types q in the file
[02:55] <dublpaws> hansel: a package might be named "foo" and the program has path /usr/bin/bar    nowhere does the installed say "To run program foo you must type $bar"
[02:55] <yzfR1> I have a quick newb question for anyone willing to answer: What is TTY and what does it mean to switch TTY
[02:56] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, it's not entering :q at the very last line, is it?
[02:56] <ruhaan_jslip> no its not entering the colon but its entering the q
[02:57] <yzfR1> what does flipping to a VT mean?
[02:57] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, what happens when you press : - is that entered anywhere at all ?
[02:57] <carandraug> yzfR1: type Ctr+Alt+FX where X is a 1-6. Use the 7 to come back.
[02:57] <RizR> any screenlet that works with lm-sensors? anyone?
[02:57] <ruhaan_jslip> unop if i press esc before teh colon then no
[02:58] <ruhaan_jslip> but without esc it does appear
[02:58] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, where does it appear?
[02:58] <jjore> The 8.10 livecd wants a username/pw when I boot.  what do I give it?
[02:58] <yzfR1> carandraug, what is it that i'm actually accessing though when  i  press F1-F6?
[02:58] <ruhaan_jslip> in the text file
[02:58] <[e]Lement> yzfR1, different ttys
[02:58] <hansel> dublpaws - dpkg -L program       it will show you the path to /bin and the prog name
[02:58] <dublpaws> awesome! thanks hansel !
[02:59] <yzfR1> [e]Lement, what's a ttys? sorry i'm new to unbuntu
[02:59] <carandraug> yzfR1: to a tty. I've also heard calling them vc (virtual console)
[02:59] <yzfR1> ubuntu*
[02:59] <[e]Lement> yzfR1, it's basically a way to output stuff from the OS
[02:59] <[e]Lement> TTY stands for Teletypewriter.
[02:59] <yzfR1> oh ok ty carandraug, and [e]Lement!
[02:59] <waxhead__> hey all...
[02:59] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip,  in vim, ex commands i.e. :w  :q  etc are shown at the very last line - which is not part of the text itself , it's the command space
[02:59] <ruhaan_jslip> hmm
[02:59] <dublpaws> yzfR1: you can do $tty at the bash to see which one your on
[02:59] <waxhead__> has anyone had problems with recent upgrades stopping the automounting of audio cds?
[02:59] <[e]Lement> I'm on tty 1337
[03:00] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, if you aren't seeing that - i don't think you are using vim - because by all means, you should be seeing this
[03:00] <[e]Lement> Can't mess with me
[03:00] <ruhaan_jslip> well i m using vim that i m sure of
[03:00] <jennifer> so i have a VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY video card - ubuntu doesn't have anything listed for the hardware drivers with the video card.  do i need to install some drivers?  video seems slow/choppy.
[03:00] <yzfR1> wait, how i put myself on tty 1337 [e]Lement?
[03:00] <yzfR1> ;)
[03:00] <dublpaws> yzfR1: $ echo "hello" > /dev/tty/??  and redirect things to it.
[03:00] <[e]Lement> yzfR1, was a joke of course.  Haha
[03:01] <yzfR1> [e]Lement, i know =)
[03:01] <max_> I have two problems, both relate to the same piece of hardware.
[03:01] <max_> Actually ..
[03:01] <max_> no.
[03:01] <hansel> !ask | max_
[03:01] <jennifer> !enter | max_
[03:01] <max_> Okay.
[03:01] <yzfR1> Out of curiousity, are most of you using Konversation or XChat for IRC ?
[03:02] <jennifer> xchat
[03:02] <max_> Xchat.
[03:02] <[e]Lement> I prefer xChat
[03:02] <[e]Lement> XChat*
[03:02] <max_> How do I add on more resolutions?
[03:02] <dublpaws> irssi with screen
[03:02] <yzfR1> k i'll switch now
[03:02] <Org-Mode> irssi
[03:02] <max_> I have a really, really old card and I'm stuck below 800X600
[03:02] <hansel> max_ edit your xorg.conf in /etc/X11 and make sure your card can support it.
[03:02] <[e]Lement> yzfR1, don't switch because of us...lol.  Such a follower.  We should have told him we used mIRC and messed with his head...lol
[03:02] <MenZa> !resolution | max_
[03:02] <Org-Mode> lol
[03:03] <hansel> yzfR1 - we are all using telnet... /raw IRC command ftw.
[03:03] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, you see this here http://sao-paulo.pm.org/papers/alceu/vim4perl/20040510-vim_colorscheme_nightwish.png  - the person is entering an ex command on the very last line (in the command mode)
[03:03] <[e]Lement> LOL
[03:03] <ruhaan_jslip> oh wait my bad i m using nano
[03:03] <ruhaan_jslip> whats teh command for nano?
[03:03] <unop_> ruhaan_jslip, heh - no idea
[03:03] <jennifer> so does my vid card not need any restricted drivers from ati?
[03:04] <jennifer> ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY
[03:04] <hansel> ruhaan_jslip: man nano
[03:04] <jjore> Hi. The LiveCD is asking for a user/pw to start. What do I give it?
[03:04] <hansel> ruhaan_jslip: to save in nano I believe its CTRL O
[03:04] <[e]Lement> hansel, you would be correct
[03:04] <ruhaan_jslip> ok thnx worked
[03:04] <jennifer> jjore, the livecd should never ask.  if you're installing a system then it's asking for what you want to put in.
[03:04] <hansel> ruhaan_jslip: have you ever used the man pages before?
[03:05] <Flannel> jjore: It shouldn't need one if it's an official Ubuntu iso.  Try ubuntu and blank.  Have you checked the CD for defects? (boot menu)
[03:05] <ruhaan_jslip> nope
[03:05] <ruhaan_jslip> link me
[03:05] <jennifer> !ati
[03:05] <hansel> ruhaan_jslip: type        man nano         in a terminal...
[03:05]  * jjore will try checking for defects. It is a 8.10 install CD he just downloaded.
[03:05] <ruhaan_jslip> oh
[03:05] <ruhaan_jslip> thnx for the help
[03:05] <[e]Lement> Jennifer, technically all video cards need a restricted driver.  Maybe you don't have one available for your card.
[03:05] <hansel> you can do that w most any command... it will give you the 411 on the inner workings of the tool.
[03:05] <jennifer> [e]Lement, what about intel cards?   didn't think those were really "restricted"
[03:06] <[e]Lement> Hm, I don't know if Intel has open source drivers.
[03:06] <unop_> [e]Lement, that's not true - video cards for which open source drivers exist do not need a restricted driver
[03:06] <jennifer> indeed
[03:06] <[e]Lement> unop_, yes.  I was thinking of that after I said it.  Haha
[03:07] <blue1> Ive just installed a LAMP server on ubuntu 8.10 and I want to remotely access localhost through hamachi is this possible?
[03:07] <[e]Lement> unop_, rather I forgot about Intel cards entirely.
[03:07] <unop_> [e]Lement, having said that - restricted drivers do not always exist either
[03:07] <jennifer> and i know the newer ati cards are amd branded.  but this one shouldn't be.
[03:07] <|Zippo|> hi, my swap partition it's 2gb, but intrepid is mounting and showing just 512mb
[03:07] <|Zippo|> Swap:       515784     211964     303820
[03:07] <Nickman1> hi, i am trying to play a game online, where do i find the IP address i need to have someone connect to my pc?
[03:07] <[e]Lement> unop_, of course.
[03:07] <jennifer> my server has an intel card.  picked it specifically for that actually :D
[03:07] <dublpaws> Nickman1: ifconfig
[03:07] <R1_> Does anyone know why the xorg.conf file in ubuntu 8.10 is almost empty?
[03:08] <dfbb> irc://irc.mozilla.org#maildev
[03:08] <hansel> Nickman1: ifconfig will show your LAN address... for your WAN ip go to www.findmyip.com
[03:08] <dublpaws> Nickman1: note that you may have firewall issues if using residential broadband.
[03:08] <unop_> R1_, the new xorg is automagic - meaning it configures itself automatically without relying on a configuration file (xorg.conf)
[03:08] <carandraug> Nickman1:  http://www.whatismyip.com/
[03:08] <Nickman1> which one do i need to have someone from another pc connect to my pc?
[03:08] <Nickman1> LAN or WAN?
[03:08] <hansel> Nickman1 - realize that you will need to setup port forwarding on your router if you are NATd
[03:08] <hansel> WAN ip...
[03:09] <hansel> and you need to config your router to allow them to connect to your LAN ip behind the router.
[03:09] <Nickman1> ouch, how do i do that?
[03:09] <Nickman1> :S
[03:09] <hansel> ie; your WAN ip is <IP_ADDRESS> and your LAN ip is <IP_ADDRESS>       If they connect to <IP_ADDRESS> the router won't know what to do w their packets.
[03:09] <Zzeiss> R1_:  Well, mostly automagic.  You can (and may need to) override anything.  F'rinstance, Ihave to override the driver and HorizSync on this here laptop.
[03:09] <ryuho> what's a good little program to graph network activity in ubuntu
[03:09] <Decepticon> how can i make my own voip solution
[03:09] <Decepticon> ryuho munin
[03:09] <ryuho> that i can put on the panel bars
[03:10] <hansel> so you go to <IP_ADDRESS> (assuming you have <IP_ADDRESS>, in most configurations scenarios) and see if your router allows port forwarding.
[03:10] <Decepticon> ryuho do you want to see a demonstration of my grpahs
[03:10] <R1_> unop_, so say I installed the application Touchpad which requires shmconfig to be "true" in xorg.conf but xorg.conf does not contain the synaptic input section anymore. Would the only way to enable shmconfig be making a shmconfig file in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ dir?
[03:10] <Org-Mode> ntop ryuho
[03:10] <Org-Mode> ntop rules
[03:10] <quizme> i'm trying to receive mail at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>from yahoo or gmail, but i'm not even getting bounce messages or messages in my error logs.
[03:10] <quizme> can somebody help me with postfix
[03:10] <quizme> been working on it for 2 days
[03:10] <hansel> Nickman1 - http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:10] <jennifer> how can i tell what video driver ubuntu is actually using?  xorg.conf is pretty much useless now.
[03:10] <Decepticon> Org-Mode what does ntop do? is it ncurses? does it work cli does it look like htop?
[03:10] <thirtyechos> why no tor on irc.ubuntu ?
[03:10] <hansel> jennifer - lsmod
[03:10] <unop_> R1_, no, as Zzeiss says - you can put directives in xorg.conf to override automagic settings with your own
[03:11] <Org-Mode> ntop is webbased
[03:11] <Zzeiss> jennifer: take a look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:11] <R1_> Zzeiss and unop_, thank you
[03:11] <ryuho> thanks Decepticon and Org-Mode ill google from what you guys gave me
[03:11] <unop_> R1_, so it's a matter of creating the appropriate input device section
[03:11] <Org-Mode> yw
[03:11] <Nickman1> you want me to opent hat site?
[03:11] <Tenkawa> Anyone else noticed something in 8.10 synaptics where if you try to do a quick search on say mysql it comes up with nothing although you can scroll through the list and find plenty of mysql packages in the main list
[03:12] <R1_> unop_, I supposed a quick google search would  provide instructions how to appropriately add input device sections?
[03:12] <Tenkawa> am I mising something with spm's search syntax?
[03:12] <Org-Mode> Decepticon: the ncurses network stat monitor that i know of is iptraf  but its text not graphs
[03:12] <thirtyechos> Tenkawa its that the other packages have mysql in the discription
[03:12] <blue1> whats the best way to setup access to localhost remotely?
[03:12] <Decepticon> Org-Mode iptraf hurts my eyes. ntop what is ntop like
[03:12] <unop_> R1_, sure, but the authoritative source might be the xorg.conf manpage  i.e.   man xorg.conf
[03:12] <Tenkawa> thirtyechos: yeah but it comes up with none in a quick search at all
[03:12] <Org-Mode> ntop is webbased munin kinda sorta
[03:12] <jennifer> looks like radeon.  i see a lot of lines that start with RADEON, and drm = radeon in lsmod.
[03:13] <Tenkawa> although apt-cache search or non-searched list shows matches
[03:13] <thirtyechos> why can't i use tor with the freenode servers?
[03:13] <Tenkawa> just seems oddd
[03:13] <Zzeiss> jennifer: Yep.  That would be it.
[03:13] <jennifer> Zzeiss, sweet, thanks.  so i'm guessing 1024x768 is this monitor's max?  is there any way to tell if it's the absolute max like dxdiag?
[03:13] <R1_> unop_, thanks I'll check out the manual
[03:14] <dublpaws> blue1: reverse ssh tunnel, to get fancy have a script keep the connection alive:  http://www.howtoforge.com/reverse-ssh-tunneling
[03:14] <Tenkawa> I'll say this though... 8.10 runs great on a former xp running acer aspire one
[03:14] <Tenkawa> after tweaking the ath5k stuff it runs great
[03:14] <Zzeiss> jennifer: the easy way is to look up the monitor model via google.
[03:15] <jennifer> Zzeiss, it's a laptop.
[03:15] <Zzeiss> jennifer: and don't be too sure that X will always get it right.  I am using a Macbook Unibody, and unless I set HorizSync, I don't get full resolution.
[03:15] <jennifer> looks like 1024x768 is the max tho.
[03:16] <jennifer> glxgears is 50fps @ full screen.  not bad.
[03:16] <Zzeiss> jennifer: what laptop is it?
[03:16] <jennifer> ah well i think i'm done.  merry xmas all.
[03:16] <jennifer> thinkpad r40
[03:16] <Tenkawa> Zzeiss: yeah... macbooks are quite "fun" to get X fully working
[03:16] <jennifer> http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/thinkpad-r40/4507-3121_7-20833353.html - i found it
[03:16] <mikec> macbooks are even more fun with fbsd
[03:17] <thorsten11> has anyone successfuly got pptp vpn working on an ubuntu server?  I am having issues and just looking to be pointed in the right direction
[03:17] <Zzeiss> Tenkawa: Well, it works now.  :) Suspend doesn't, though hibernate-to-disk does.  Except that sound goes away and doesn't come back.
[03:17] <Tenkawa> mikec: I had enough fun with fbsd on my dual x2.... not even going to try efi based equip
[03:17] <ryuho> I want something in the panel in ubuntu that tells my current network usage with a little bar or something, any ideas?
[03:17] <Zzeiss> Tenkawa: but the unibody hardware is so drop-ded sexy tha tit's worth it. :)
[03:17] <Tenkawa> Zzeiss: bummer
[03:17] <mikec> Tenkawa: its working on mine
[03:17] <Tenkawa> heheh
[03:17] <jennifer> Zzeiss, every good-god-awful think you could want to know about this craptop.  right down to the 20gb hdd lol
[03:18] <Tenkawa> mikec: yeah I know it does... I'm just not up for the tweaking heheeh
[03:18] <thirtyechos> about 8.10 microphone doesn't work on an inspiron 530 after install and the ati/amd prop. driver sucks over whatever OpenS. driver ubuntu uses for it.
[03:18] <jennifer> although this one's is 30gb now that i think of it.  eh well
[03:18] <jennifer> i'm out
[03:18] <jennifer> peacde
[03:18] <Tenkawa> mikec: I went through enough with my quad core and esxi that I need a break from major tweaking
[03:18] <mikec> i cheat on all my installs, i install everything from vmware
[03:18] <Tenkawa> heheheh
[03:18] <Tenkawa> vmware ftw :)
[03:18] <mikec> esx is great
[03:18] <magtom2003> If you're services-admin is all grayed out...how do you change the options?
[03:19] <Tenkawa> yep
[03:19] <dublpaws> ryuho: wmnetmon might work with your window manager.
[03:19] <Tenkawa> I agree
[03:19] <ryuho> sweet, i think netspeed was my answer
[03:19] <mikec> yeah, i install via vmware, then just boot natively
[03:19] <thirtyechos> click unlock
[03:19] <Tenkawa> nice
[03:19] <magtom2003> I tried gksudo
[03:19] <magtom2003> that's grayed also
[03:19] <thirtyechos> hmmm
[03:19] <mikec> its also great for modifying things, etc while still running something else already working great
[03:19] <Tenkawa> yeah
[03:19] <thirtyechos> which version?
[03:19] <Tenkawa> well time for me to do some reading
[03:19] <magtom2003> 8.10 32 bit
[03:19] <Tenkawa> cheers all
[03:19] <Zzeiss> magtom2003: look down at the bottom of the window, you will see a padlock with something like "authorize" or "unlock".  Click that.
[03:20] <thirtyechos> fresh install?
[03:20] <magtom2003> the Unlock is Grayed aswell...yes just installed it about an hour ago
[03:20] <thirtyechos> strange.. lemme look into it.
[03:20] <Zzeiss> magtom2003: OK, then the account you're using is not in sudoers....
[03:21] <thirtyechos> can you sudo in the terminal?
[03:21] <thirtyechos> and also is it just in services? same problem in say users?
[03:21] <thirtyechos> users and groups
[03:22] <magtom2003> Yeah same in users expect myself
[03:22] <Org-Mode> !who | thirtyechos
[03:22] <magtom2003> I The aye
[03:22] <thirtyechos> ubottu: sorry
[03:22] <Org-Mode> lol
[03:23] <thirtyechos> magtom2003: can you unlock users?
[03:23] <thirtyechos> ubottu: & thanks
[03:23] <thirtyechos> ha
[03:24] <magtom2003> thirtyechos: Yeah, how can I change my group to allow that?
[03:25] <donavan_> any one had any experience with tv tuners?
[03:25] <billybigrigger> can anyone suggest to me the best partition setup and which fs to use?
[03:26] <billybigrigger> i have 4gb ram so a 1gb swap partition is lots, also with a 300gb hdd i would like most of it to be allocated to my /home, but what is recommended for / ???
[03:26] <Org-Mode> !TV | donavan_
[03:26] <thirtyechos> magtom2003:  unlock users / click on your user name / click on properties
[03:27] <carandraug> billybigrigger: 15-20Gb is more than you'll probably ever use.
[03:27] <thirtyechos> magtom2003:  make sure you have permissions, but this is weired because if you can change these settings then you are a sudoer (i think)
[03:27] <billybigrigger> carandraug, ya i was thinking 25gb would be plenty
[03:27] <R1_> Is anyone else here familiar with problems with gnome-power-management and laptop brightness in  ubuntu 8.10 ??
[03:27] <thirtyechos> magtom2003:  have you ran all of the updates?
[03:28] <wash-hasted> i can compile c++ code in terminal but does any one know of a decent c++ compiler for ubuntu ?
[03:28] <Flannel> wash-hasted: gcc (well g++)
[03:29] <Flannel> wash-hasted: You mean an IDE?
[03:29] <billybigrigger> i usually set my fs to ext3 but with a recent ubuntu crash i decided i want to try something else...i tried opensuse 11.1 on xfs for about a day and was sick of suse after a few hours so im back to ubuntu, but i dont want to run into a corrupt fs again, so for a 250+GB /home partition that will have mostly music, and larger video files, i want a fs that is fast but also dependable, is ext3 the best choice or should i try reiser o
[03:29] <billybigrigger> r xfs?
[03:29] <R1_> Hi, if anyone here is free, experienced with ubuntu, and willing to help a new ubuntu lover, please PM me
[03:29] <donavan_> Org-Mode: yeah I am reading that now ... but I am stuck ... I cant seem to get the scan to work... it doesnt find any frequencies and the tuning fails everytime
[03:29] <carandraug> billybigrigger: that would be a lot. On my old install I had 20Gb for / . I never went above 5. At the moment I have 15. The programs that take a lot of space are applications installed in wine and all those are in /home
[03:29] <Flannel> !anyone | R1_
[03:30] <R1_> ubottu, will do
[03:30] <billybigrigger> carandraug, ok i will try out a 15g /
[03:30] <AngryElf> how come the add button in Network Connections => VPN is greyed out?
[03:30] <Org-Mode> hmmm yeah donavan_ you'll have to just keep asking like every 5-10 mins because i dont have experience with tv cards sorry :)
[03:31] <R1_> what is the abbrevation  PPA
[03:31] <Flannel> R1_: Personal Package Archive
[03:31] <Paddy_EIRE> !ppa | R1_
[03:31] <davenull> AngryElf: You have to install the client for the VPN type you are going to connect to.
[03:31] <donavan_> Org-mode: thanks  for the help though ... I seem to be stuck nicely
[03:31] <Org-Mode> np goodluck donavan_ :)
[03:31] <R1_> How do you download someone's public PPA package
[03:32] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, what are you trying to do specifically?
[03:33] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, my laptop crashes/becomes unresponsive when I use FN keys on my laptop and I found a  solution on a forum on launchpad, but the solution requires  me to download something that someone has built from a PPA  site and I don't really understand this stuff since  i just started using ubuntu yesterday
[03:34] <R1_> the file i need is gnome-power-manager - 2.24.0-0ubuntu8+wgrant1
[03:34] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, link me to where you are getting your info please :)
[03:35] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, go to http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-966869.html and search wgrant =)   Thanks
[03:35] <billybigrigger> for music and larg video files, which filesystem is a better choice for my /home??? ext3 xfs or reiser? i want the fastest and most dependable fs
[03:35] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, Just a moment.. no probs :)
[03:36] <JeffZ-> I think I am having a problem with my opengl driver.  I play a game called 'AssaultCube', and under Windows with a 800x600 resolution I get at least 60fps.  Under Ubuntu I only get 20fps with a resolution of 640x480.  I had Linux Mint installed before this, my frame rate was much better.  Any suggestions?
[03:37] <Paddy_EIRE> ok R1_ so go to "System > Administration > Software Sources"
[03:37] <wsgordon_> anyone help please, how do i install a run file
[03:38] <sloopy> ws 'sh filename.run'
[03:38] <sloopy> wsgordon, 'sh filename.run'
[03:38] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, i'm there
[03:38] <sloopy> JeffZ-, do you have DRI/GLX running in hardware or software?
[03:38] <CuriosCat> hrmf.
[03:38] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, choose the "Third-Party Software" tab and add this repository (ppa) "https://launchpad.net/~wgrant/+archive" without the quotes of course :)
[03:39] <JeffZ-> I'm not sure, how do I tell?
[03:39] <wsgordon_> tried sh Verifying archive integrity...tail: cannot open `+6' for reading: No such file or directory
[03:39] <wsgordon_>  thats my output
[03:39] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, everything from http to archive
[03:39] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, 1 sec =D
[03:39] <akio> im looking for a nice graphical network traffic monitor for my personal connection that shows me which programs are responsible for the mystery network traffic on my little MSI Wind. Any suggestions?
[03:39] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, sure
[03:40] <akio> did that first line get eaten?
[03:40] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, once you add that reload your package lists and update :)
[03:40] <sloopy> JeffZ-, 'glxinfo | grep rendering'
[03:40] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, if you need any more help just ring :P
[03:40] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, i'm having trouble adding it
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, how so?
[03:41] <JeffZ-> sloopy, it says "direct rendering: Yes"
[03:41] <wsgordon_> it typed sh heretic2-install-x86.run
[03:41] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, when i put the link in, add source is still greyed out
[03:41] <wsgordon_> Verifying archive integrity...tail: cannot open `+6' for reading: No such file or directory
[03:41] <wsgordon_> Error in check sums 281755320<PHONE_NUMBER> thats what i get back
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> sec
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, silly me
[03:41] <donavan_> any one have any experience with TV cards.... can get my card to scan the channels
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, my mistake
[03:41] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, lol it's okay, Thanks a lot for the help i really appreciate it
[03:41] <akio> I R retarded for using netstat like a pro, it doesn't meet my needs, any suggestions for what was mentioned partly above?
[03:42] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, hey are you using 8.10 (intrepid) ?
[03:42] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, yes
[03:42] <sloopy> JeffZ-, then the problem is somewhere else...
[03:42] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, the problem that i have, only occurs in intepid i believe (from research)
[03:42] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, ok add this "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/wgrant/ubuntu intrepid main"  and  "deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/wgrant/ubuntu intrepid main"
[03:43] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, both links?
[03:43] <JeffZ-> sloopy, so the opengl rendering is running correctly?
[03:43] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, add both seperately
[03:43] <Paddy_EIRE> same same
[03:43] <akio> i r id! see me now?
[03:43] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, can you please tell me the difference between deb and deb-src?
[03:44] <sloopy> JeffZ-, yes, glx is the 2D/3D rendering, saying yes then it is using hardware instead of software
[03:44] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, deb-src is source code
[03:44] <johnzorn> is there a daemon that needs to be running to be able to resolv names?
[03:44] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, just in case
[03:44] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, sometimes it may be required
[03:44] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, done  :)
[03:44] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, currently reloading
[03:44] <Paddy_EIRE> cool.. now reload/update and upgrade
[03:44] <JeffZ-> sloopy, are there any other reasons that there could be a huge difference between frame rate on windows vs. linux?
[03:44] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[03:45] <sloopy> JeffZ-, dunno, i am not familiar with the app
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> JeffZ-, different OS's perhaps :)
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[03:45] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, sorry to bother you some more, but what do i do here
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> !lnw | JeffZ-
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, sure thing
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, has it notified you to tell you updates are available?
[03:46] <geltonas> what can I say I love ubuntu
[03:46] <JeffZ-> sloopy, alright, thanks for your help
[03:46] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, it notified me that an adobe flash update was availible, but i'm guessing that is not what i am looking for
[03:46] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, but i installed reguardless
[03:46] <sloopy> JeffZ-, np, i cant fix your problem but i helped get closer to the issue :')
[03:47] <wsgordon_> humm crap, how do i fix this Verifying archive integrity...tail: cannot open `+6' for reading: No such file or directory
[03:47] <wsgordon_> Error in check sums<PHONE_NUMBER> 676349490
[03:47] <teratoma> yes , i want to let someone not on my local net use it, and password protect it.  i haven't been able to do that with squid
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, go to 'Applications > Accessories > Terminal" and type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y"
[03:47] <Flannel> wash-hasted: check out anjuta
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> or copy paste
[03:47] <wsgordon_> whats this mean ?   --- Verifying archive integrity...tail: cannot open `+6' for reading: No such file or directory
[03:47] <wsgordon_> Error in check sums<PHONE_NUMBER> 676349490
[03:48] <hendershot> wsgordon_: reset your bios on the mother board
[03:48] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, are  those 2 seperate commands or can  i  perform that in 1 line?
[03:48] <bazhang> wsgordon_, what was that error from
[03:48] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, 1 line that is what the && is for :)
[03:48] <wsgordon_> Verifying archive integrity...tail: cannot open `+6' for reading: No such file or directory
[03:48] <wsgordon_> Error in check sums<PHONE_NUMBER> 676349490
[03:49] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, i never knew! ty =D i that will  be important to me
[03:49] <wsgordon_> bazhang trying to install the heretic 2 demo
[03:49] <wsgordon_> heretic2-install-x86.run
[03:49] <Paddy_EIRE> wsgordon, be more specific with your problem.. providing random error output is not helpful most times when we do not know the specific context in what you are trying to do/achieve
[03:49] <xun> hello, does anyone know a good app for syncing folders between 2 computers?
[03:49] <bazhang> hendershot, this has nothing to do with bios
[03:50] <waxhead__> xun: rsync
[03:50] <AnaisCareMaiz> on amsn, when someone sends a message, it doesn't flash, is there anyway to change that?
[03:50] <wsgordon_> i type sh heretic2-install-x86.run, and it returns that error
[03:50] <Org-Mode> xun rsync
[03:50] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:50] <hendershot> bazhang: im only saying that because my computer had that kinda error and i had to reset the boid
[03:50] <hendershot> bios*
[03:50] <xun> thanks waxhead__ i'll check it out now
[03:50] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, ok do "sudo apt-get install gnome-power-manager"
[03:50] <wsgordon_> hendershot its no where near a bios issue,
[03:50] <wsgordon_> its got to be file premissions
[03:50] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, Very sorry for taking up so much of your time
[03:51] <hendershot> ahh
[03:51] <hendershot> well sorry
[03:51] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, hey thats what I am here for :)
[03:51] <Org-Mode> xun: if rsync gets a bit confusing there is a GUI for it Grsync
[03:51] <wsgordon_> hendershot no problem
[03:51]  * waxhead__ has just setup rsync to backup the server... next are the clients
[03:51] <wsgordon_> should i install as sudo ?
[03:51] <xun> org-mode, thanks!
[03:51] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, gnome-power-manager is already the newest version.
[03:51] <R1_> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[03:51] <R1_>   xutils-dev
[03:51] <Org-Mode> np
[03:52] <xun> what abou Conduit? is that something similar to rsync?
[03:52] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:52] <billybigrigger> wsgordon, chmod +x <filename> will make it executable
[03:52] <billybigrigger> wsgordon, try that
[03:52] <blacknred01> does anybody knows how i could install "Evolution Jean-Yves Lefort's Mail Notification plugin"?
[03:52] <bizkwet> hi, what fps game can you suggest that doesn't require multiplayers? :D
[03:52] <donavan_> Im trying to find some help with tv cards ... I can get it to tune
[03:52] <wsgordon_> chmod +x heretic2-install-x86.run
[03:52] <wsgordon_> wsgordon@icebox:~/heretic$ sh heretic2-install-x86.run
[03:52] <wsgordon_> Verifying archive integrity...tail: cannot open `+6' for reading: No such file or directory
[03:52] <hendershot> is there a doom game for linux/
[03:53] <wsgordon_> same error
[03:53] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, do "apt-cache policy gnome-power-manager"
[03:53] <FloodBot1> wsgordon_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:53] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, done. Should i somehow check my gnome-power-manager version to see if i have the new one wgrant built?
[03:53] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, :)
[03:53] <billybigrigger> wsgordon, install as sudo?
[03:53] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, which repository  does it say it is coming from?
[03:53] <BFish> Hey all im new to ubuntu and i used wubi to install it after doing it with a disc failed. It seems that once it gets to the screen with the orange bar going back and forth it hangs there and ubuntu never loads. what am i supposed to do?
[03:53] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, and which version number is printed?
[03:53] <wsgordon_> i tried as sudo, same error
[03:53] <SudoKing> What's the difference between POSIX and UNIX? :?
[03:54] <Paddy_EIRE> SudoKing, google or wikipedia
[03:54] <Paddy_EIRE> !chat | SudoKing
[03:54] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, gnome-power-manager:
[03:54] <R1_>   Installed: 2.24.0-0ubuntu8.1
[03:54] <R1_>   Candidate: 2.24.0-0ubuntu8.1
[03:54] <R1_>   Version table:
[03:54] <R1_>  *** 2.24.0-0ubuntu8.1 0
[03:54] <FloodBot1> R1_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:54] <Paddy_EIRE> errr
[03:54] <R1_>         500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates/main Packages
[03:54] <Paddy_EIRE> :(
[03:54] <Paddy_EIRE> dont ban him
[03:54] <SudoKing> oo
[03:54] <R1_> woops sorry bout that
[03:54] <Paddy_EIRE> SudoKing, that would be suited to the #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:55] <SudoKing> ah
[03:55] <wsgordon_> shoot still does not install
[03:55] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, it happens
[03:55] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, did my message go through?
[03:55] <Paddy_EIRE> !pastebin
[03:56] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, you got that pastebin link I think I missed the bulk of info
[03:56] <R1_> oh 1 sec
[03:56] <wsgordon_> dang would be great to apt-get the heretic 2 demo
[03:57] <Paddy_EIRE> wsgordon, :)
[03:57] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, http://paste.ubuntu.com/93026/
[03:57] <bizkwet> what are you guys playing in ubuntu? :D
[03:57] <Paddy_EIRE> !ot
[03:58] <bizkwet> lol.. ok. thanks :)
[03:58] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, remember when you told me to perform  sudo apt-get autoremove, something called xutils-dev was removed, can you tell me what just happened?
[03:58] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, it seems to be installed.. could you reboot and see if it made any difference
[03:58] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, it removed old dependencies
[03:59] <Paddy_EIRE> no longer needed and consuming space
[03:59] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE dependencies?
[03:59] <Paddy_EIRE> !deb
[03:59] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, sorry me newb =(
[03:59] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, yeah other libraries and such that are required to run
[03:59] <Paddy_EIRE> most are shared
[04:00] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, Thank you for everything, i'll reboot and come back and let you  know  the result
[04:00] <Paddy_EIRE> sure thing
[04:00] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, one more thing before i go
[04:00] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, should i remove the 2 repositories i added after i reboot and see it's working?
[04:00] <Paddy_EIRE> no
[04:00] <Paddy_EIRE> leave them there
[04:01] <Paddy_EIRE> essential for updates
[04:02] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, but aren't the repositories i added just personally modified versions of programs by wgrant?
[04:02] <Paddy_EIRE> yes
[04:02] <Paddy_EIRE> You use them at your own risk
[04:02] <Paddy_EIRE> ppa's that is
[04:02] <Paddy_EIRE> no big deal mostly
[04:03] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, I am confused?? Isn't it better to have updates from original ubuntu repositories rather than someone's personal custom versions?
[04:03] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, yeah.. but the one in the official repositories is not the one wgrants ppa offers
[04:04] <Paddy_EIRE> we cannot support and be liable for everyone
[04:04] <kurisutofuaa> Is there a gui for editing mount points?
[04:04] <Paddy_EIRE> impossible
[04:04] <terli> I'm here to support everyone
[04:04] <terli> with a large sack of fragmentation grenades
[04:04] <Paddy_EIRE> !info disk-manager
[04:04] <Paddy_EIRE> kurisutofuaa, ^
[04:04] <bazhang> terli, chat elsewhere please
[04:04] <terli> bazhang
[04:04] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, so my understanding is i should keep this  repository from wgrant, until the official ubuntu repositories have an official update that fixes gnome-power-manager that covers this problem
[04:05] <terli> what makes you think I can't actually diagnose and sucessfully correct issues ?
[04:05] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, well yeah.. that is if you are monitoring the situation
[04:05] <terli> I'm a ubuntu tester since hardy
[04:05] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, like subscribing to the particular bug report you are effected by
[04:05] <Paddy_EIRE> *affected
[04:06] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, i'll stop bugging you and restart now! thanks for everything
[04:06] <Paddy_EIRE> sure
[04:06] <R1_> brb
[04:06] <kurisutofuaa> Paddy_EIRE, thanks been awhile since I had to edit mount points. lol
[04:06] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[04:06] <donavan_> I'm still trying to find some help with my tv card and getting it to scan
[04:06] <Paddy_EIRE> donavan, what model/chipset is it?
[04:06] <andrux> hi to everyone
[04:07] <reid> I need help with the radeonHD driver i think..
[04:07] <att0> is it worth relaying IRC traffic through a proxy?
[04:07] <terli> att0: of course it is
[04:07] <donavan_> paddy_erie: is a wintv hvr1800
[04:07] <SEWilco2> I got a bluetooth mouse but can't get it to work on Intrepid.  It is present in Bluetooth>Preferences although I never typed a pairing code.
[04:08] <Paddy_EIRE> donavan, oh I see D:
[04:08] <att0> terli: would Tor suffice?
[04:08] <SEWilco2> And I can't find a way to delete it from Bluetooth so I can try pairing again.
[04:08] <andrux> anyone knows how to install a labtec webcam on ubuntu?
[04:08] <neeto> hey what's the GTK analogue to KDE's amarok?
[04:08] <terli> tor?
[04:08] <bazhang> !tor
[04:09] <terli> there you go.
[04:09] <terli> NO CAN DO MATE.
[04:09] <Paddy_EIRE> donavan, http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=53612925
[04:09] <bazhang> terli, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:09] <krishmish> !vnc
[04:09] <krishmish> !freenx
[04:09] <neeto> hey what's the GTK analogue to KDE's amarok?
[04:09] <terli> banshee.
[04:09] <bazhang> !players
[04:10] <donavan_> paddy_eire: thanks I will check it out
[04:10] <Paddy_EIRE> neeto, banshee/exaile/listen many other
[04:10] <Paddy_EIRE> *others
[04:10] <neeto> Paddy_EIRE: gotcha thanks.
[04:11] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, I'm back and sad to say it did not fix my problems........... So from here it is best if i remove the 2 repositories I've added and continue searching for  another solution?
[04:11] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, I think that package did not install
[04:11] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, I believe you may have to remove your existing gnome-power-manager
[04:12] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, would that be in add/remove ?
[04:12] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, or would i have to do it through terminal?
[04:12] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, go to 'System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[04:12] <Paddy_EIRE> search for gnome power manager
[04:13] <R1_> found
[04:13] <R1_> untick and apply?
[04:13] <Paddy_EIRE> how many?
[04:13] <masroorhussain> I need help for my sound while watching DVD
[04:14] <masroorhussain> the sound is very low
[04:14] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, close synaptic and open a terminal
[04:14] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE i see 1 gnome-power-manager
[04:14] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, cleaner to just purge it
[04:14] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, yeah thats okl
[04:14] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, sudo apt-get purge gnome-power-manager
[04:15] <R1_> ok
[04:15] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, I find this method cleaner.. but you can use synaptic if you want
[04:16] <R1_> It is currently being purged by t erminal
[04:16] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[04:16] <Paddy_EIRE> cool
[04:16] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE it is complete =D
[04:16] <Paddy_EIRE> R1_, when done reboot and then "sudo apt-get install gnome-power-manager"
[04:16] <Paddy_EIRE> I would think
[04:17] <Paddy_EIRE> so it pulls down the ppa version
[04:17] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, i'll perform that after i reboot, then i'll reboot again and see if it works, then i'llcome back with results
[04:17] <Paddy_EIRE> cool
[04:17] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, ty again
[04:17] <Paddy_EIRE> good luck
[04:17] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[04:18] <grendal_prime> ok, i need to use recordmydesktop for a project.  I need to reroute sound from my mp3 app and record it along with the desktop( its a presentation thing.)  But, im really having a hard time understanding how this works.
[04:19] <gaintsura> yar why is firefox taking up almost 800mb of virtual mem and almost 500 of physical??
[04:19] <Delvien> grendal_prime: you wont want to have recordmydesktop record the sound, you will want to add it to the video later
[04:19] <terli> gaintsura : what version is it
[04:20] <gaintsura> terli: full version of just the 3 bit?
[04:20] <terli> um...
[04:20] <grendal_prime> Delvien: cool and umm how would i go about that?
[04:20] <terli> how about the full version.
[04:20] <terli> lets hear it in a pm.
[04:20] <gaintsura> 3.0.5
[04:20] <gaintsura> oh
[04:20] <gaintsura> fail
[04:21] <Delvien> grendal_prime:  any video editor, im not an expert but i know you will want to add it later, it will have better sound quality
[04:23] <Paddy_EIRE> If R1_ comes back looking for me tell her/him that I will be right back.. I am just off for a smoke :)
[04:24] <Org-Mode> ok
[04:24] <Paddy_EIRE> ty
[04:27] <anfangs> hi all
[04:27] <wartalker> i want to install mit-scheme, but there is no source, help me!!!
[04:28] <anfangs> I've seen a Dr. Scheme package, is that what u need?
[04:29] <R1_> Paddy_EIRE, i hope you're still there
[04:29] <Org-Mode> hes afk real fast R1
[04:30] <R1_> Org-Mode, ty
[04:30] <Org-Mode> np
[04:30] <wartalker> anfangs: i will see it, thanks