[12:00] <Reak> topyli, when i do the steps you just described, firefox won't even start !!
[12:00] <roben> topyli: if taht is what this meant: "ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so libjavaplugin.so"
[12:00] <eob84> mxpxpod, explain it to me again?
[12:00] <djm62> Reak: progress! ;)
[12:00] <Reak> :)
[12:00] <topyli> roben: yes :(
[12:00] <mxpxpod> eob84: wait... when set to 60 Hz in the screen resolution preference, xorg displays fine
[12:00] <roben> topyli: but maybe i removed the wrong file: sudo rm libjavaplugin_oji.so
[12:01] <topyli> Reak: which steps?
[12:01] <topyli> roben: ok, "ls -l" again
[12:01] <Reak> to link the libjavaplugin to the firefox plugins folder
[12:01] <mxpxpod> eob84: strange... I didn't think hz affected that
[12:01] <topyli> Reak: your java probably even isn't in /usr/lib
[12:01] <eob84> mxpxpod, if the refreshrate was higher than it should have been
[12:02] <Reak> topyli, yes it is
[12:02] <eob84> mxpxpod, odd things happen
[12:02] <mxpxpod> eob84: ah, ok
[12:02] <topyli> Reak: oh
[12:02] <mxpxpod> thanks
[12:02] <djm62> Reak: not /usr/java ?
[12:02] <mxpxpod> gotta go
[12:02] <roben> topyli: totalt 0
[12:02] <roben> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 37 2005-05-02 22:47 flashplayer.xpt -> ../../mozilla/plugins/flashplayer.xpt
[12:02] <roben> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 39 2005-05-02 22:47 libflashplayer.so -> ../../mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[12:02] <roben> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 57 2005-05-08 23:57 libjavaplugin.so -> /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[12:02] <vladster> I get Xlib: extension "GLX" missingon display ":0.0" and ERROR: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[12:02] <projectmayhem> hi everybody
[12:02] <dholmes> I want to install Ubuntu 5.04 on my Compaq Presario R3000 laptop, but the keyboard works with neither the installer nor the installed system. It worked fine in the 4.10 LiveCD. External USB keyboard works fine. Can anybody help me with this?
[12:03] <dholmes> Also, the keyboard works in the bootloader, just stops as soon as the installer starts
[12:03] <topyli> roben: weirdest thing. that's how it works
[12:03] <Reak> djm62, is it supposed to be in /usr/lib/java or just /usr/lib
[12:04] <topyli> Reak: have you built a debian package like we've done for roben here?
[12:04] <jedipottsy> how do i run cedeha in a different win mode?
[12:04] <jedipottsy> ie win2k win98 winme
[12:04] <projectmayhem> i'm having two specific KDE problems... was wondering if anyone can help out. First of all, every time i update with synaptic or apt-get there's a package called "kdelibs-data" that does not seem to want to install....
[12:04] <Reak> topyli, no :(
[12:04] <djm62> Reak: it can be in a few places
[12:04] <Reak> i wasn't here
[12:04] <Reak> djm62, ??
[12:05] <topyli> Reak: please don't take a command here and there. things will get broken
[12:05] <_chavo> jedipottsy, you have to add a section to .transgaming/config for that game
[12:05] <topyli> roben: ok. you have java, but no plugin now
[12:05] <roben> topyli: what does that mean?
[12:06] <kanuha> projectmayhem: go here to fix that problem  http://moba.linuxfaqs.de/kdelibs-debug.sh
[12:06] <topyli> roben: just checking the situation. we still need the plugin :)
[12:06] <_chavo> open up the config file in an editor and look at the doom3 section near the end.
[12:06] <projectmayhem> kanuha thx
[12:06] <jedipottsy> ok
[12:06] <roben> topyli: yeah, ok.
[12:06] <kanuha> projectmayhem: it is listed in #kubuntu channel
[12:06] <roben> topyli: you know what to do?
[12:06] <jedipottsy> cos im trying to get city of heroes to install, but the only thing that comes up is the background image, not install windows
[12:07] <projectmayhem> oh wow there's a kubuntu channel? I'm so hopeless :-D
[12:07] <projectmayhem> thanks
[12:07] <_chavo> just copy that part and change it to the name of the city of heroes executable
[12:07] <topyli> roben: so, if you "ls /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7" there will be libjavaplugin_oji.so
[12:07] <hybrid_goth> anyone know of a mac on linux alterantive
[12:08] <qu0te> how do I install fluxbox on Hoary? I looked on the forums but none of it worked for me
[12:08] <topyli> roben: and if /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so is a link to that, it should work
[12:08] <topyli> but it doesn't. that's the game
[12:08] <synd> hybrid_goth: i dont think apple will authorize a dealer that sells macs that dont have OS X
[12:08] <roben> topyli: no. the file or directionary does not exist. it says.
[12:08] <jedipottsy> i typed in cedega /media/cdrom1/setup.exe -win2k
[12:08] <hybrid_goth> qu0te: apt-get install fluxbox
[12:08] <hybrid_goth> or use synaptic
[12:08] <jedipottsy> still nothing
[12:08] <topyli> roben: aha!
[12:08] <roben> topyli: ?
[12:09] <jedipottsy> steams working fine :S
[12:09] <Muffie> apt-cache search mplayer --> Is that correct? Mplayer is not present there???
[12:09] <topyli> roben: what if you "ls /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun"? is there any stuff
[12:09] <hybrid_goth> synd: no there is a program for ppc that runs mac os on linux and is fast for no cpu emulation
[12:09] <hybrid_goth> Muffie: ubuntu mplayer sucks
[12:09] <Muffie> hybrid_goth, Why?
[12:10] <synd> hybrid_goth: ah, okay
[12:10] <hybrid_goth> Muffie: because of the restircted formats
[12:10] <synd> hybrid_goth: doesnt mac on linux work for you?
[12:10] <Muffie> hybrid_goth, You mean the so called "Totem"?
[12:10] <hybrid_goth> Muffie: they make it so horidd
[12:11] <hybrid_goth> synd: i dont get the modules bs
[12:11] <Muffie> hybrid_goth, I agree. But Why mplayer is not present in the apt?
[12:11] <roben> topyli: there is "bin lib"
[12:11] <topyli> roben: that's not good
[12:11] <hybrid_goth> Muffie: it is better to go to mplayerhq.hu and get it... it is in synaptic so idk
[12:11] <roben> topyli: ok.
[12:12] <roben> topyli: is there a lot of work?
[12:12] <Muffie> hybrid_goth, Ok, I can do that, but I see no reason why Ubuntu team does not make mplayer available to ports...
[12:12] <hybrid_goth> what do you mean
[12:12] <dockane> mounting with 'utf8' as an option solves my problems with mounting ntfs paritions including german umlaute in file names, may i expect ext2 partitions that already has got files tagged with (invalid coding) will work, too ?
[12:12] <topyli> roben: perhaps java-package saw your old installation and made an upgrade package. it was called "+updates" something
[12:12] <synd> http://www.maconlinux.org/sshots/pic10.jpg
[12:12] <synd> haha how funny is that
[12:12] <qu0te> what's the proper way to use su, I keep on getting authentication failure from su -
[12:12] <roben> topyli: yes, I think that is correct.
[12:13] <shido6> sudo su -
[12:13] <topyli> roben: first of all, you should uninstall it. "apt-get remove --purge sun-j2re1.5"
[12:14] <hybrid_goth> qu0te: sudo su the use *your* passwd
[12:14] <topyli> roben: then get rid of your old installation (reverse the ubuntuguide instructions)
[12:14] <tritium> qu0te: really, you're encouraged to use sudo instead.  e.g., sudo -i
[12:14] <hybrid_goth> synd: that is a funny picture
[12:14] <Muffie> vmware is not available through ports either. I was used to Gentoo's portage. Almost everything is there! Ubuntu its a great distro, Cant see why a lot of software is not present...
[12:14] <qu0te> thanks
[12:15] <hybrid_goth> Muffie: there is more repos
[12:15] <Muffie> hybrid_goth, Where?
[12:15] <tritium> qu0te, see here for more info: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:15] <ThomasWinwood> Something is hogging the processor.
[12:15] <roben> topyli: thank you for your time, you are great! I'm sorry, but I really have to go.
[12:15] <hybrid_goth> Muffie: ask google
[12:15] <qu0te> is sudo -i supposed to ask for a password?
[12:15] <topyli> roben: then, try and get a clean java installation :)
[12:15] <ThomasWinwood> Ah, bitchx.
[12:15] <roben> topyli: it's night time, and I have to get up early tomorrow.
[12:15] <tritium> qu0te, yes, yours.  read that URL please.
[12:16] <qu0te> ok, thanks for the help
[12:16] <roben> topyli: Ok, thanks, I will.
[12:16] <tritium> no problem
[12:16] <Muffie> hybrid_goth, Do you know if Ubuntu "apt-get" repository is the same of Debian?
[12:16] <tritium> Muffie, no, the repositories are separate, with different packages
[12:16] <hybrid_goth> Muffie: no they are different but some work together like marlitte
[12:16] <hybrid_goth> or w/e it is
[12:17] <Muffie> tritium, Can I set my apt-get to look at Debian packages? Is there some problem with that?
[12:17] <tritium> Muffie, you're advised not to.
[12:17] <hybrid_goth> tritium: but ubuntu does use .deb
[12:17] <Muffie> tritium, Is there a reason for that?
[12:17] <tritium> Why would you want to do that anyway, Muffie?
[12:17] <hybrid_goth> so how is it different
[12:18] <Muffie> tritium, mplayer, vmware, xmame, etc.. I Cant find anything there...
[12:18] <tritium> Muffie, yes, package format is the same.  The same package in debian may have dependencies on different package versions, however, which can lead to big complications.
[12:18] <dooble> has anyone got mythtv working with a PVR250... or with ivtv?
[12:18] <thread> Anyone familliar with ipw2200 and/or encrypted (shared key) wireless networks care to give my issue a stab? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=161762
[12:19] <tritium> Muffie, vmware is commercial, you won't find that.  mplayer is in multiverse
[12:19] <Muffie> tritium, vmware demo was present at Gentoo's portage, as an example...
[12:19] <tritium> Muffie, xmame is also in multiverse.
[12:19] <Muffie> tritium, What is multiverse? (English is not my mother language)
[12:19] <lewwy> hey guys, what repositry contains all the kernels?
[12:19] <tritium> Muffie, one of the ubuntu components.  Hold on, I'll get you a URL.
[12:20] <ThomasWinwood> "Multiverse" as a word refers to the notional space containing all possible universes. It's one of Ubuntu's repositories.
[12:20] <tritium> lewwy, main
[12:20] <lewwy> tritium: so it should already be included in the ubuntu default repositries?
[12:21] <tritium> Muffie, here's a URL about the ubuntu "components", including universe and multiverse
[12:21] <Muffie> ThomasWinwood, So, when you say an application is Multiverse? What do you mean?
[12:21] <tritium> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[12:21] <hybrid_goth> hey darkaudit
[12:21] <lewwy> is that linky for me tritium?
[12:21] <darkaudit> hey hey
[12:21] <ThomasWinwood> Muffie: When we say an application is in multiverse, that means you can download the application from the multiverse repository.
[12:21] <vladster> ok, what I need right now is a crowbar to get this thing working
[12:21] <tritium> lewwy, no, that's for Muffie
[12:22] <Muffie> ThomasWinwood, ok.
[12:22] <lewwy> ah ok
[12:22] <Muffie> tritium, thanks. Im reading the url...
[12:22] <tritium> Muffie, okay.
[12:22] <ubuntu> hey, anyone know how to access NTFS drive with ubuntu liveCD? thanks.
[12:22] <tritium> lewwy, yes, the kernel is included in ubuntu main repositories
[12:23] <^thehatsrule^> use ntfs-captive?
[12:23] <Muffie> just another doubt: What that means: (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:2:0:1) found
[12:23] <tritium> Muffie, that's a warning, less severe than an error (EE) in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:24] <du3-c3> hi
[12:24] <ubuntu> thanks thehatsrule. how do I access that
[12:24] <tritium> lewwy, what is it you're trying to do?
[12:24] <lewwy> update my kernel
[12:24] <lewwy> im on a i386
[12:24] <Muffie> tritium, thanks again! :)
[12:24] <du3-c3> i m tryin to compile a little application and i get the following error
[12:24] <du3-c3> configure: error: Library requirements (++dfb libxml++-2.6 ) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[12:24] <lewwy> i want to update it to k6 or whatever the AMD kernel is
[12:25] <tritium> lewwy, "sudo aptitude (or apt-get) install linux-k7"
[12:25] <du3-c3> the pkgs r installed and pkgconfig is set right, how could i solve that problem??
[12:25] <tritium> Muffie, of course, buddy :-)
[12:25] <lewwy> anyone know what this error means?
[12:25] <lewwy> (synaptic:8091): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display
[12:25] <Muffie> Can I make a quick survey here? I want to know the result of glxgears in FPS for different users with different boards. My 9600XT gives around 2400 FPS... Is that normal?
[12:26] <jordanau> lewwy, do you already have one open? i get something like that if i have one open and try to open a second
[12:26] <du3-c3> 662 frames in 5.0 seconds = 132.400 FPS
[12:26] <du3-c3> 518 frames in 5.0 seconds = 103.600 FPS
[12:26] <du3-c3>
[12:26] <jordanau> lewwy, wait are you in fluxbox??
[12:26] <lewwy> i am getting 255
[12:26] <vladster> is there a configuration routine for the xserver to get the settings working?
[12:26] <lewwy> no
[12:27] <du3-c3> Muffie, ati onboard
[12:27] <Muffie> du3-c3, and lewwy :  Whats your graphics card?
[12:27] <tritium> vladster, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" if you need to try to reconfigure X.org
[12:27] <lewwy> oop actually thanks Muffie you just indirectly reminded me to install the nvidia drivers :P
[12:27] <Trab> heh why dos it say please dont use breezy?
[12:27] <hybrid_goth> is there a ubuntu shortcut to switch between virtual desktops
[12:27] <Muffie> du3-c3, hmmm seems that Direct Rendering is not enabled
[12:27] <Muffie> lewwy, You're welcome! :)
[12:27] <djm62> Trab: breezy is unstable, and unsupported
[12:27] <du3-c3> Muffie, how could i do that?
[12:27] <tritium> lewwy, you definitely want linux-k7, as that will pull in linux-restricted-modules, which you'll need for the nvidia kernel module
[12:27] <lewwy> hehe
[12:27] <Fator_Dee> hybrid_goth: alt+ctrl+arrows
[12:28] <djm62> Trab: people see the minor version numbers, drool, break stuff, and complain
[12:28] <Muffie> du3-c3,  check this out. I was doing this right now: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:28] <lewwy> yeh
[12:28] <tritium> hybrid_goth, in gnome?
[12:28] <lewwy> im getting the kernel now
[12:28] <lewwy> 15%
[12:28] <lewwy> @ 27.2kb/s
[12:28] <lewwy> wow, i swear that faster than winblows
[12:28] <tritium> hybrid_goth, Ctrl-Alt-<left or right arrow> in gnome
[12:28] <lewwy> thats*
[12:28] <hybrid_goth> tritium: xfce
[12:28] <hybrid_goth> ok
[12:28] <hybrid_goth> ty fator_Dee and tritium
[12:28] <Muffie> tritium, apt-get uses only "main" components?
[12:29] <tritium> Muffie, no, it uses any you configure it to use
[12:29] <Trab> djm62 Breezy works fine so far
[12:29] <Muffie> tritium, but by default, only MAIN?
[12:29] <djm62> Trab: then you're lucky...I hope it continues
[12:29] <_chavo> lewwy, the ubuntu servers are pretty fast
[12:29] <tritium> Muffie, by default, it should use main and restricted
[12:29] <goldfish_> Emm just wondering, is there anyway to log keystrokes of users on your system in linux?
[12:29] <Trab> thank you
[12:29] <lewwy> hey i don't suppose anyone here has got a Davicom 10/100 NIC working in ubuntu?
[12:29] <Muffie> tritium, Im editing sources.list right now! :)
[12:30] <tritium> Muffie, good for you :)
[12:30] <Trab> anyone ever get a castlewood orb storage drive to work with ubuntu?
[12:30] <tritium> Muffie, note that universe should be there, but it's commented out.  You'll need to add multiverse by hand.
[12:30] <jedipottsy> hey
[12:30] <jedipottsy> can someone help me
[12:31] <Trab> depends XD
[12:31] <jedipottsy> i installed steam via cedega
[12:31] <Trab> ugh
[12:31] <lewwy> only if you send beer!
[12:31] <tritium> Muffie, you can just append multiverse to the universe lines, and uncomment those lines
[12:31] <jedipottsy> rebooted, and now when i click the icon on the desktop, steam wont load
[12:31] <Trab> heh
[12:31] <Trab> u have to run it via cedega
[12:31] <Trab> open a shell
[12:31] <Trab> type
[12:31] <jedipottsy> how?
[12:31] <Trab> cedega steam
[12:31] <Trab> probably
[12:31] <tritium> Muffie, enjoy.  I'm off to dinner...
[12:31] <jedipottsy> terminal?
[12:31] <goldfish_> jedipottsy: open up a terminal, cd to the steam directory and launch it with 'cedega Steam.exe'
[12:31] <Trab> yes
[12:31] <jedipottsy> ok thnx
[12:32] <Muffie> tritium, thank
[12:32] <djm62> jedipottsy: right-click on the desktop to obtain a terminal from the menu
[12:32] <lewwy> man
[12:32] <lewwy> cedega doesnt work for me
[12:32] <lewwy> no games work, they all screw up
[12:32] <Trab> yeah
[12:32] <Trab> i wish gaming would move to linux
[12:32] <lewwy> some sort of "cedega trial" would really be nice
[12:32] <goldfish_> games launch on my cedega but the resolutions are all borked
[12:32] <sophie_msumu> http://hyp666.free.fr/img/Conneries/La_drogue_sai_mal.jpg
[12:32] <Trab> cedega doesnt even work when i own it legit!
[12:32] <lewwy> yeh
[12:33] <Trab> i got it, installed it, got red alert 2 install, it wont install the expantion back, nor will it play online
[12:33] <lewwy> i "acquired" it
[12:33] <jedipottsy> is there an easy way to find a folders directory? theres no address bar
[12:33] <Trab> its like ok so wats the point?
[12:33] <Trab> lol
[12:33] <lewwy> and now it doesnt work
[12:33] <Trab> lewwy
[12:33] <lewwy> i mean
[12:33] <Trab> lol
[12:33] <djm62> sophie_msumu: schweeet
[12:33] <lewwy> what can i expect
[12:33] <lewwy> but still
[12:33] <Trab> heh
[12:33] <djm62> :D
[12:33] <lewwy> if i could somehow TRIAL it
[12:33] <Trab> i thought freenode had file sharing in here
[12:33] <goldfish_> jedipottsy: It's in the Transgaming folder
[12:33] <goldfish_> jedipottsy: or something like that
[12:33] <Trab> goldfish_ he doesnt have an adress bar to switch to that
[12:34] <jedipottsy> yeah i know, but theres not address bar to let me copy the directory
[12:34] <goldfish_> ah right
[12:34] <goldfish_> sorry :/
[12:34] <Trab> oy jedipottsy u need to fix ur natiulus
[12:34] <lewwy> like, 30day trial or something, cause im not about to throw money at something that could be vapourware as far as i know
[12:34] <jedipottsy> im in gnome, how can i add an address bar
[12:34] <goldfish_> i thought he was in a terminal.
[12:34] <Trab> *rolls eyes*
[12:34] <Trab> jedipottsy
[12:34] <Trab> open terminal
[12:34] <Trab> type
[12:34] <Trab> cd ~
[12:34] <vladster> gee lemony fresh, victory is mine. thanks
[12:34] <Trab> type cd Transgaming_Drive
[12:35] <Trab> actually
[12:35] <Trab> type
[12:35] <jedipottsy> how can i fix natiulus to show address bar?
[12:35] <vladster> now to install ut2k4 and q3 and all the other classic time wasters
[12:35] <Trab> just a sec
[12:35] <qu0te> when I try apt-get install fluxbox, i get this Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done E: Couldn't find package fluxbox
[12:35] <qu0te> do I need to add repositories?
[12:35] <lewwy> hey hows everyone find performance between linux/windows for games?
[12:36] <hybrid_goth> `try synaptic
[12:36] <du3-c3> Muffie, i ve done this.. do i have modprobe it by hand or is it done automatically?
[12:36] <vladster> Now I need a nice wallpaper that does not look brown
[12:36] <Trab> jedipottsy PM me
[12:36] <goldfish_> vladster: www.deviantart.com
[12:36] <lewwy> hurrah!
[12:36] <lewwy> 3 mins till my new kernel!
[12:36] <djm62> vladster: or search for "propaganda" in synaptic
[12:36] <qu0te> how would I got about doing it in Synaptic?
[12:36] <hybrid_goth> lol
[12:36] <Muffie> just add fglrx to /etc/modules and restart it.
[12:36] <djm62> vladster: or art.gnome.org
[12:37] <Muffie> du3-c3,  just add fglrx to /etc/modules and restart it.
[12:37] <boredofthesane> how do I get dma to work? I am only burning at 11x
[12:37] <Muffie> du3-c3, and dont forget to change "ati" to "fglrx" inside /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:37] <goldfish_> boredofthesane: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/yourcddrive
[12:37] <boredofthesane> goldfish_: that fails
[12:37] <du3-c3> ok Muffie thx i m tryin it now (i have even cedega + warcraft..) hope it worx
[12:37] <goldfish_> boredofthesane: what does it say?
[12:37] <shido6> if I have my xbox and i have a audio in from my radeon 9800 card can i play the input out of my speakers in dolby digital surround sound?
[12:37] <shido6> 5.1
[12:37] <shido6> ?
[12:38] <djm62> ?
[12:38] <qu0te> how would I install fluxbox from synaptic?
[12:38] <qu0te> I don't see it there
[12:38] <^thehatsrule^> update first?
[12:38] <goldfish_> qu0te: open a search, put in fluxbox
[12:38] <boredofthesane> goldfish_: msg'ed you it
[12:38] <Muffie> I have edited sources.list to enable universe packages. But Im receiving this message: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://br.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/br.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[12:38] <vladster> Need something dark
[12:39] <Muffie> Anyone knows what I can Do?
[12:40] <lewwy> hey guys, can i somehow do a warm boot to get back to the boot loader screen so i can switch kernels?
[12:41] <boredofthesane> anyone know how to get dma support working on my cdrom drive?
[12:41] <djm62> lewwy: you probably time out too fast, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:41] <lewwy> hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:41] <jedipottsy> /usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/bin/wine: cannot find '/home/jedipottsy/TransGaming_Drive/Program'
[12:41] <djm62> boredofthesane: have you googled it for your particular hardware?
[12:41] <jedipottsy> damn how do i load steam - theres a space in program files
[12:42] <boredofthesane> djm62: can't find anything on google, tried all the ubuntu forums as well
[12:42] <djm62> jedipottsy: press tab
[12:42] <goldfish_> jedipottsy: did you do that from a terminal?
[12:42] <goldfish_> meh
[12:42] <goldfish_> ignore me
[12:42] <IRCMonkey_> can anybody assist me with a modem issue?
[12:42] <djm62> jedipottsy: in general, if you have to type a space, do it like this: "\ " (backslash then space)
[12:43] <jedipottsy> ok
[12:43] <garnel> e17 yay
[12:43] <jedipottsy> ok i pressed enter, and nothing happened
[12:43] <jedipottsy> steam isnt loading
[12:44] <garnel> how can i chane resolution in e17
[12:44] <ryman> is the auto update working for everyone ?
[12:44] <ryman> it took me forever to download 3 out of 18 package =(
[12:44] <IRCMonkey_> Seeking dialup assistance.  Any help is appreciated.
[12:44] <dockane> if a directory already contains files, is it possible to "add-symlink" some files to them from another directory ?
[12:45] <jedipottsy> CEDEGA SUCKZ :@
[12:45] <goldfish_> jedipottsy: it works for me when i run it from a terminal
[12:46] <jedipottsy> cedega -workdir "/home/jedipottsy/.transgaming/c_drive/Program Files/Valve/Steam" "C:/Program\ Files/Valve/Steam/Steam.exe"
[12:46] <jedipottsy> goldfish_, nope, steam dont load
[12:46] <IRCMonkey_> goldfish, can you help me or direct me to assistance on setting up a modem?
[12:46] <goldfish_> IRCMonkey_: sorry im on dsl, never used dial-up
[12:46] <goldfish_> jedipottsy: are u running it from a terminal?
[12:47] <djm62> jedipottsy: try a cedega-specific channel maybe?
[12:47] <du3-cc> Muffie, it didnt work..
[12:47] <goldfish_> jedipottsy: #cedega
[12:47] <jedipottsy> jedipottsy@Linux:~$ cedega /home/jedipottsy/TransGaming_Drive/Program\ Files/Valve/Steam/STEAM.exe
[12:47] <jedipottsy> jedipottsy@Linux:~$
[12:47] <cecil> hello all
[12:47] <goldfish_> jedipottsy: you need to cd into the directory
[12:48] <goldfish_> jedipottsy: browse into the directory, using the dcd command
[12:48] <du3-cc> Muffie, is there a way to find whether my ati-card is supported or not?
[12:48] <goldfish_> jedipottsy: then type cedega STEAM.exe
[12:48] <goldfish_> jedipottsy: cd command
[12:48] <cecil> anybody know tcl here?
[12:48] <Muffie> du3-cc, what happened?
[12:48] <Muffie> du3-cc, use glxinfo | grep direct
[12:48] <ubuntu> salut
[12:48] <Muffie> du3-cc, whats the result?
[12:49] <djm62> salaam
[12:49] <du3-cc> Muffie, X doesnt start
[12:49] <djm62> anyone know the AT commands to send an SMS through a GPRS card exposed as a serial interface?
[12:49] <Muffie> use lsmod | grep fglrx
[12:49] <Muffie> du3-cc, what it says?
[12:50] <cecil> hello?
[12:50] <goldfish_> jedipottsy: any joy?
[12:50] <du3-cc> Muffie, nothing it seams there is flgrx modul ..
[12:50] <jedipottsy> nope
[12:50] <jedipottsy> cd to valve folder
[12:50] <jedipottsy> and nothing
[12:50] <goldfish_> jedipottsy: what do you mean nothing?
[12:50] <Muffie> du3-cc, fglrx is not present when you use lsmod | grep fglrx?
[12:50] <du3-cc> no
[12:50] <goldfish_> jedipottsy: did you do 'cedegae STEAM.exe' ?
[12:50] <goldfish_> *cedega
[12:50] <goldfish_> gah my typing sucks tonight.
[12:50] <djm62> just the one cedega ;)
[12:51] <cecil> hello, is anyone there?
[12:51] <du3-cc> Muffie, root@tk333:/proc# modprobe flgrx
[12:51] <du3-cc> FATAL: Module flgrx not found.
[12:51] <IRCMonkey_> Anybody willing to assist me in determining how to recognize a modem?
[12:51] <daniels> du3-cc: it's 'fglrx'
[12:51] <du3-cc> root@tk333:/proc# modprobe fglrx
[12:51] <du3-cc> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko): No such device
[12:51] <jedipottsy> cedega STEAM.exe
[12:51] <IRCMonkey_> Cecil, can I pester you into helping me with a modem issue?
[12:51] <Muffie> du3-cc, did you used sudo apt-get fglrx... (as present in the URL I have sent you?)
[12:51] <jedipottsy> nothing came up
[12:52] <cecil> hello?????
[12:52] <jedipottsy>  cedega STEAM.exejedipottsy@Linux:~/TransGaming_Drive/Program Files/Valve/Steam$
[12:52] <daniels> du3-cc: look at the output of 'dmesg | tail'
[12:52] <du3-cc> Muffie, i did all like described
[12:52] <IRCMonkey_> Cecil, are you willing to take a question about recognizing a modem?
[12:52] <Muffie> du3-cc, so, apt-get failed?
[12:52] <goldfish_> IRCMonkey_: tried looking at ubuntuguide.org ?
[12:52] <cecil> yes, if i can be heard
[12:52] <du3-cc> Muffie, no apt-get worked fine
[12:52] <djm62> I'd like to believe that one dat, hardware will be hardware
[12:52] <du3-cc> [fglrx]  Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 198 MBytes.
[12:52] <du3-cc> [fglrx:firegl_init]  *ERROR* Device not found!
[12:53] <du3-cc> Muffie, i have only 128 mb ram..
[12:53] <IRCMonkey_> goldfish, no, I will go look right now.  Thanks.   Maybe back in a minute
[12:53] <jedipottsy> when i try to run setup from cd i get this
[12:53] <jedipottsy> X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
[12:53] <jedipottsy>   Major opcode of failed request:  2 (X_ChangeWindowAttributes)
[12:53] <jedipottsy>   Resource id in failed request:  0x2e00306
[12:53] <jedipottsy>   Serial number of failed request:  274
[12:53] <jedipottsy>   Current serial number in output stream:  341
[12:53] <du3-cc> Muffie, and the card has 32mb i think
[12:53] <goldfish_> jedipottsy: ok, try in #cedega
[12:53] <jedipottsy> no1 is in there
[12:53] <ryman> I know that we can play windows game on linux. But do I have to have Windows on antoher partition or there is a software that let me install and run .exe game ?
[12:53] <goldfish_> jedipottsy: :/
[12:53] <Muffie> du3-cc, that sould not be a problem. If apt-get worked fine, but modprobe fails... Well. I think my knowledge (almost newbie) is not enough to help you. :(
[12:53] <goldfish_> ryman: u can install it with cedega.
[12:54] <goldfish_> ryman: or wine.
[12:54] <goldfish_> well, cedega for games.
[12:54] <ryman> goldfish_, so I don't need Windows on diff partition ?
[12:54] <goldfish_> ryman: nope.
[12:54] <du3-cc> Muffie, do u think it has anything to do with framebuffer?
[12:54] <mindspore> or you can run windows under linux with win4lin
[12:54] <goldfish_> ryman: cedega makes a fake windows drive
[12:55] <djm62> or write some letters to firms that make linux games praising them, and letters to firms that don't complaining
[12:55] <mindspore> hehe, that's a given
[12:56] <ryman> oh man it isn't free
[12:56] <ryman> thanks for the info goldfish_
[12:56] <Muffie> du3-cc, If apt-get fglrx has ended without any errors, you have added fglrx to /etc/modules, have rebooted and fglrx was not found in lsmod, I dont know what possible went wrong... I dont think framebuffer has something about the error...
[12:56] <ryman> is there any other free one ?
[12:57] <jedipottsy> cvscedega
[12:57] <jedipottsy> cvswine
[12:57] <Jimbob> du3-cc: It shouldn't
[12:57] <goldfish_> ryman: u there?
[12:57] <Jimbob> du3-cc: What kind of card do you have?
[12:58] <du3-cc> Jimbob, ati onboard 32mb i dont kno the name but, i think it has DRI
[12:58] <Jimbob> du3-cc: Run "lspci -v"
[12:58] <du3-cc> Muffie, i cant find fglrx pkg.. where do u find it?
[12:58] <Jimbob> One of those items is your graphics adaptor
[01:00] <du3-cc> Jimbob, ATI Tech. Inc Radeon Compa....
[01:00] <Jimbob> du3-cc: On mine (Radeon X800) it says "0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4a49 (prog-if 00 [VGA] )" followed by a bunch of stuff
[01:00] <jedipottsy> how do u use point2play?
[01:01] <goldfish_> jedipottsy: try the cedega forums
[01:01] <Jimbob> du3-cc: Could you paste the VGA compat controller and display controller items in #flood?
[01:01] <Jimbob> (the whole group surrounding them, that is)
[01:01] <jedipottsy> goldfish_, no1 in there
[01:01] <jedipottsy> goldfish_, i have tried
[01:01] <goldfish_> jedipottsy: the forums
[01:01] <goldfish_> jedipottsy: on the transgaming site
[01:01] <jedipottsy> o
[01:01] <jedipottsy> k
[01:03] <IRCMonkey_> Are pci devices "plug and play" under linux?  If I shut down, install, and restart, will it see my device?
[01:03] <du3-cc> Jimbob, is that what u meant?
[01:03] <Jimbob> yeah
[01:03] <Jimbob> Could you paste the "display controller" group as well (if there is one)
[01:04] <djm62> IRCMonkey_: you mean, if you shut down, plug it in, and switch on?
[01:04] <du3-cc> Jimbob, there is no display-controller group here
[01:04] <IRCMonkey_> djm62, yes, that is what I mean
[01:04] <Jimbob> ok
[01:04] <djm62> IRCMonkey_: if it's a supported modem, yes
[01:04] <djm62> IRCMonkey_: or in general, that will work
[01:05] <IRCMonkey_> OK, I will try.  thanks.
[01:05] <Jimbob> What model number vaio do you have?
[01:05] <du3-cc> Jimbob, pcg- dont kno the rest
[01:06] <IRCMonkey_> djm: winmodems are probably unsupported.  Is this a reasonable assumption?
[01:06] <Jimbob> du3-cc: pc or laptop?
[01:07] <djm62> IRCMonkey_: winmodems are a World of Pain
[01:07] <du3-cc> Jimbob, laptop
[01:07] <jordanau> IRCMonkey_, winmodems depend on software to work. That makes making drivers very difficult. (correct me if I am wrong)
[01:07] <IRCMonkey_> djm: OK, I have several here to choose from.  I will make a different choice.  Thanks
[01:08] <djm62> IRCMonkey_: what jordanau said, plus the interface is proprietary, making writing the extensive software near-impossible
[01:08] <Jimbob> du3-cc: What does /etc/X11/xorg.conf say in the "Device" section (you can paste to #flood)?
[01:08] <jedipottsy> ne1 got the link to the wiki site, explaning how to setup ati drivers?
[01:09] <IRCMonkey_> djm: while I have your ear, can I plug in a slave IDE drive formatted NTFS for windows and recognize it from my primary IDE drive running ubuntu?
[01:09] <djm62> and even if you get it working perfectly it's inferior to a real modem
[01:09] <Muffie> I have edited sources.list to enable universe packages. But Im receiving this message: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://br.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/br.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:09] <djm62> IRCMonkey_: yes, but you can't write to it, only read from it.  NTFS is another secret format and writing could destroy data, so the kernel people aren't risking it yet
[01:10] <jedipottsy> ne1 got the link to the wiki site, explaning how to setup ati drivers?
[01:10] <IRCMonkey_> OK, so I will copy to the primary drive and reformat in some linux file format
[01:11] <djm62> IRCMonkey_: if you want to go all the way immediately...there's no hurry, get comfortable first ;)
[01:11] <LinuxJones_afk> jedipottsy, search the wiki for binary howto
[01:11] <Muffie> hmmm. Maybe an apt-get update would help
[01:11] <IRCMonkey_> Thanks for your help.  I am taking off to reinstall the modem.  Thanks to all.
[01:11] <Jimbob> du3-cc: Can you modprobe the radeon/radeonfb modules?
[01:12] <djm62> it worries me when people are over-enthusiastic
[01:12] <du3-cc> Jimbob, root@tk333:/etc/X11# modprobe radeon
[01:12] <du3-cc> root@tk333:/etc/X11# modprobe radeonfb
[01:12] <du3-cc> root@tk333:/etc/X11#
[01:12] <Jimbob> du3-cc: Groovy, try changing the "fglrx" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to "radeon"
[01:13] <du3-cc> Jimbob, waer radeonfb nich noch besser?
[01:13] <du3-cc> Jimbob, would radeonfb be better?
[01:13] <du3-cc> sry german..
[01:14] <djm62> :-)
[01:14] <Jimbob> du3-cc: well, the fglrx module doesn't appear to support the card you're using
[01:14] <du3-cc> Jimbob, now i have to just restart X right?
[01:15] <Jimbob> correct
[01:15] <Jimbob> get to the login screen and hit CTRL+ALT+Backspace will restart X.
[01:15] <du3-cc> sure
[01:15] <flodine> can some tell me why totem movie player dont got sound?
[01:15] <flodine> am i missing something
[01:16] <djm62> there should be a list of ubuntu-friendly LUGs on the wiki
[01:16] <Jimbob> flodine: Is the volume set above zero in the volume control?
[01:16] <flodine> yes
[01:17] <flodine> i can play music
[01:17] <jordanau> Jimbob, i wish you had been there to tell me that when i was doing some sound troubelshooting a few months back
[01:17] <goldfish_> flodine: Cool :)
[01:17] <flodine> yeah but no sound from my movies
[01:17] <Jimbob> jordanau: Eh, even one of the GNOME devs had problems that were traceable to the volume being off
[01:17] <du3-cc> Jimbob, now i have: 658 frames in 5.0 seconds = 131.600 FPS
[01:17] <du3-cc> 647 frames in 5.0 seconds = 129.400 FPS
[01:17] <du3-cc> 648 frames in 5.0 seconds = 129.600 FPS
[01:17] <du3-cc> 777 frames in 5.0 seconds = 155.400 FPS
[01:17] <Jimbob> :-)
[01:17] <du3-cc> do u think its ok?
[01:18] <jordanau> flodine, any movies?? try different ones
[01:18] <Jimbob> du3-cc: That's faster than your eyeballs work :-)
[01:18] <Jimbob> du3-cc: By about 4x
[01:18] <flodine> i did even the porn
[01:18] <goldfish_> flodine: dvd ?
[01:18] <goldfish_> LOL
[01:18] <flodine> lol
[01:18] <goldfish_> ahahah
[01:18] <flodine> had to go there
[01:18] <jordanau> flodine, so this is a critical problem then
[01:18] <du3-cc> Jimbob, but all this for only ~20fps?
[01:18] <flodine> well totem does play sound
[01:18] <djm62> oh....I can't wait to get my spare memory
[01:19] <flodine> am i missing a file for sound in totem
[01:19] <jordanau> flodine, you need to post a topic on ubuntu forums that says "my porn has no sound"
[01:19] <flodine> lol
[01:19] <goldfish_> HAH
[01:19] <SuperK> hey guys
[01:19] <Jimbob> du3-cc: eh
[01:19] <flodine> lol
[01:19] <djm62> "check if she's being touched in the right place"
[01:19] <flodine> come on now
[01:19] <goldfish_> LOL
[01:19] <jordanau> flodine, are you running totem-xine
[01:19] <flodine> lets get busy
[01:19] <jordanau> djm62, rofl
[01:19] <flodine> yes
[01:20] <SuperK> anyone here use enlightenment on Ubuntu??
[01:20] <du3-cc> Jimbob, ?
[01:20] <jordanau> flodine, are you listening to music?
[01:20] <whappd> How can i change the default system character encoding?
[01:20] <flodine> no
[01:20] <ghostfreeman_> I just had a wonderful idea
[01:20] <jordanau> flodine, have you tried killall esd? (i dont know if that applies to totem or not)
[01:20] <Jimbob> du3-cc: I wasn't aware of what you were starting with -- and the only thing you actually did was change one line in a config file and restart X to get an extra 20fps
[01:21] <ghostfreeman_> erm wrong channel
[01:21] <SuperK> I installed it but no place to select it at log in
[01:21] <Jimbob> du3-cc: That's pretty good :-)
[01:21] <dell500> anyone here know how to convert/play FLAC, OGG, and SHN files?
[01:21] <du3-cc> Jimbob, no all thos installations..
[01:21] <gratuit> dell500: you should be able to play ogg files with xmms
[01:21] <djm62> dell500: what's SHN? flac and ogg should be supported
[01:22] <du3-cc> ok anyway thx Jimbob
[01:22] <Jimbob> du3-cc: np
[01:22] <dell500> SHN is some other format, the dead, phish, widespread, and some others record in this format
[01:22] <dell500> brb
[01:22] <du3-cc> tryin another thing now
[01:22] <djm62> dell500: gstreamer0.8-flac might be needed for flac
[01:22] <jordanau> dell500, flac is in gstreamer-0.8-flac
[01:22] <goldfish_> SuperK: there is some file u have to run but i can't remember the name :/
[01:23] <jordanau> djm62, beat me to it
[01:23] <SuperK> ok, you guys helped alot yesterday so I was hoping someone might know
[01:23] <jordanau> dell500, i misspelled it do what djm62 said
[01:23] <dell500> FLAC isn't supported for some reason
[01:23] <dell500> jordanau, thanks
[01:24] <Jimbob> SuperK: You're using GNOME?
[01:24] <jordanau> dell500, apt-get install flac
[01:24] <jordanau> dell500, it has plugins for xmms etc.
[01:24] <Nalioth> howdy
[01:24] <SuperK> xfce now, I like it better
[01:24] <Jimbob> SuperK: oh
[01:25] <SuperK> just wanted to see if enlightenment was all that and a bowl of grits or not
[01:25] <dell500> jordanau, can't i do apt-get install xmms-flac ??
[01:25] <jordanau> dell500, i dunno try it
[01:26] <djm62> dell500: if the package exists, go ahead
[01:26] <jordanau> dell500, yeah looks like you can (the general flac will have plugins for other players though)
[01:26] <dell500> sweet
[01:26] <djm62> dell500: arson for kde seems to support burning SHN files to CD, so I guess there must be free software support for the format
[01:26] <dell500> ok, what should i have to eat?
[01:26] <goldfish_> Brains.
[01:26] <SuperK> chili dogs
[01:27] <djm62> apt-get install szechuan
[01:27] <dell500> hmmm
[01:27] <jordanau> man food
[01:27] <Fator_Dee> wild boar
[01:27] <dell500> lol
[01:27] <djm62> sanglier
[01:27] <dell500> i know, i want food, but i don't want to make it
[01:27] <dell500> but i'm poor
[01:27] <SuperK> bratwurst
[01:27] <Nalioth> dell500, el salvadorean food
[01:27] <dell500> so it looks like i'm gonna go hungry tonight lol
[01:27] <dell500> lol
[01:27] <SuperK> TOP RAMEN
[01:27] <jordanau> dell500, you should know better to google before asking that kind of question :) j/k
[01:27] <dell500> lol
[01:27] <jordanau> SuperK, ahh ramen
[01:28] <dell500> YES! YMSB
[01:28] <SuperK> brekfast of champions
[01:28] <dell500> flac is so clear too
[01:28] <thread> Anyone familliar with ipw2200 and/or encrypted (shared key) wireless networks care to give my issue a stab? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=161762
[01:28] <jordanau> dell500, does it work now?
[01:28] <goldfish_> flac is HUGE
[01:29] <SuperK> ok, I'm off to see if I can find out howto make enlightenmant work
[01:29] <jordanau> goldfish_, it is better than .wav at least
[01:29] <dell500> yup
[01:29] <dell500> flac is huge, but it's really clear
[01:29] <flodine> how do i check the file for totem
[01:29] <dell500> and listening to yonder moutain on it is sweet!
[01:29] <goldfish_> jordanau: true
[01:29] <dell500> *mountain
[01:29] <jordanau> dell500, i was going to see them and didnt get a chance :(
[01:30] <shadeofgrey> okay i need help
[01:30] <dell500> i'm gonna see 'em at the 'roo
[01:30] <dell500> same with dmb, oar, bela, widespread, and a shit ton of others
[01:30] <dell500> gonna be awesome
[01:30] <shadeofgrey> where is the default installation for mozilla firefox located?
[01:30] <djm62> dell500: http://www.u2shn.com/shnfaq.html that page has a linux shorten download of some kind...
[01:31] <jordanau> dell500, i will see you there :)
[01:31] <dantheman> is enlightenment a separate window manager from gnome? or can the two run together?
[01:31] <dell500> jordanau, sweet!
[01:31] <dell500> i'm goin with my gf and we're gonna camp and smoke smoke smoke smoke :)
[01:31] <djm62> dantheman: enlightenment can run with gnome
[01:31] <dantheman> how well do they work together?
[01:31] <shadeofgrey> and what is the ubuntu equivelant to adobe indesign?
[01:31] <djm62> dantheman: and indeed used to be the default
[01:32] <djm62> shadeofgrey: what exactly does indesign do?
[01:32] <jordanau> dantheman, i think it requires it doesnt t
[01:32] <dantheman> i have no idea
[01:32] <dantheman> i like to do random things to my new ubuntu machine when i'm bored
[01:32] <dantheman> so i search out things to do to it
[01:32] <shadeofgrey> djm:  its like quark - its a full page creation program for documents that interlace with visual elements...  you would use it to create pages for major publications like magazines
[01:32] <djm62> dantheman: we have esd, the Enlightened Sound Daemon, because enlightenment used to be the gnome window manager
[01:33] <dantheman> alright
[01:33] <djm62> shadeofgrey: I don't know how good a replacement it is, but I've read good reviews of scribus
[01:33] <djm62> shadeofgrey: inkscape is a nice vector illustration program, which would probably complement it
[01:34] <Eighth> ubuntu's install is telling me that some modules for my hardware aren't available yet...
[01:34] <Nalioth> shadeofgrey, i agree inkscape and scribus
[01:34] <shadeofgrey> i really need to know the path for moZilla
[01:34] <djm62> shadeofgrey: all of these are from my perspective as a non-professional...look before you leap
[01:34] <lewwy> hey guys, has anyone here got wine to work with baldur's gate 2 or soldat?
[01:34] <Nalioth> shadeofgrey, "locate firefox"
[01:34] <djm62> shadeofgrey: type "which mozilla-firefox"
[01:34] <shadeofgrey> im in the middle of the flash player installation
[01:35] <djm62> shadeofgrey: on my machine, /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/
[01:36] <jordanau> shadeofgrey, dpkg -L mozilla-firefox
[01:37] <djm62> vi is a symlink to ed, emacs is a symlink to rm -Rf /
[01:37] <goldfish_> eh....
[01:37] <goldfish_> don't say that :)
[01:37] <shadeofgrey> okay - so wait
[01:37] <Nalioth> djm62, now don't start that up
[01:37] <goldfish_> djm62: someone said that in here last week, and someone ran it.
[01:37] <goldfish_> he deleted everything.
[01:37] <goldfish_> not funny :)
[01:37] <djm62> I stated no preference...just saying it's dangerous to assume someone's machine is like yours
[01:37] <goldfish_> kk
[01:38] <shadeofgrey> i gave it the path like this : /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox -- but it thought those directories were inside the dir containing the flash installer
[01:38] <shadeofgrey> whats the equivelant to expressing c:\directory\directory
[01:38] <djm62> shadeofgrey: did you definitely put the initial / in?
[01:38] <shadeofgrey> yes
[01:38] <djm62> shadeofgrey: the initial / is the root of your filesystem
[01:38] <jordanau> " /directory/directory
[01:38] <ThomasWinwood> Maybe you need a final / ?
[01:39] <jordanau> ignore the quote it tryed to run an xchat command
[01:39] <ThomasWinwood> e.g. /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox/
[01:39] <ThomasWinwood> jordanau: Ctrl-J usually overrides that.
[01:39] <ThomasWinwood> It forces sending a PRIVMSG command to the server.
[01:39] <lewwy> hmm, does anyone know how to setup wine properly?  I'm trying to play soldat on my wine machine but its not working
[01:39] <ThomasWinwood> Example:
[01:39] <ThomasWinwood> /quit
[01:39] <jordanau> ThomasWinwood, what do you mean
[01:40] <jordanau> when do you press cntrl-j?
[01:40] <ThomasWinwood> Type the message, then do Ctrl-J. Or do /say whatever
[01:40] <nubious> hoy hoy
[01:40] <ThomasWinwood> Ctrl-J worked in mIRC... useful little addition.
[01:40] <jordanau> not working for me in xchat
[01:40] <ThomasWinwood> Nor I.
[01:40] <nubious> Ctrl-J's not working for me in mIRC either
[01:40] <nubious> FYI
[01:40] <jordanau> dell500, congrats
[01:40] <ThomasWinwood> Weird, nubious. It worked for me back when I was a Winn00b XP.
[01:41] <nubious> hrm
[01:41] <tiefox> does ubuntu have graphical boot splash ?
[01:41] <nubious> I'm on my windows box right now
[01:41] <nubious> tiefox: yes it does.
[01:41] <digitalfox|afk> it does?
[01:41] <djm62> shadeofgrey: have you tried apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ?
[01:41] <nubious> oh
[01:41] <nubious> wait
[01:41] <nubious> splash
[01:41] <nubious> sry - thought login
[01:41] <digitalfox|afk> nubious, it doesn't
[01:41] <digitalfox|afk> not yet
[01:41] <digitalfox|afk> I think that's one of the planned additions
[01:41] <tiefox> mine does not :(
[01:41] <djm62> tiefox: not in this iteration...
[01:41] <digitalfox|afk> tiefox, it will in the next release
[01:41] <tiefox> ok...thx
[01:41] <djm62> tiefox: it's hard to do compatibly for everyone
[01:42] <tiefox> got it..
[01:42] <djm62> (and not really a priority, although I think it has a lot of psychological importance)
[01:42] <nubious> Can anyone help me with running some commands at boot with the sudo command?  From what I understand it runs everything your startup scripts as root, and the server I wanna startup doesn't like being run as root, so I'm wondering how I sudo to my account and have it run from there.
[01:42] <tiefox> ubuntu is great...i was using slackware ....
[01:44] <matara> hmm
[01:44] <djm62> ubuntu is great all round...anyone that sends me a free CD and puts naked people on the desktop is ok in my book
[01:45] <lewwy> argh i didnt get to see the april fools login picutre :@
[01:45] <dell500> naked people on the desktop? who where?!
[01:45] <djm62> lewwy: I installed on april 1...gave me a nasty shock
[01:45] <lewwy> what a gyp
[01:45] <nubious> ahah
[01:45] <lewwy> lol
[01:45] <lewwy> what does it do exactly?
[01:45] <djm62> dell500: apt-cache search ubuntu-calendar
[01:45] <sweetsilence> djm62, I hate to put naked people on destop!
[01:45] <lewwy> what does the AF thingo do? change the desktop and thats it?
[01:45] <djm62> sweetsilence: it's ok if you clean the desk afterwards ;)
[01:46] <sweetsilence> :) right!
[01:46] <dell500> djm62, what is this?
[01:46] <matara> pff i just spend a couple of hours setting my desktop to dualk head
[01:46] <djm62> lewwy: just the GDM login...the three dancing people are hairy geeks instead of models
[01:46] <djm62> dell500: ubuntu models for wallpaper
[01:46] <lewwy> lolol
[01:46] <lewwy> and they're naked?
[01:46] <lewwy> ewwww
[01:46] <dell500> does it cache it for the wallpaper??
[01:46] <goldfish_> One is A MAN!
[01:46] <Epix> type sudo apt-get moo
[01:47] <lewwy> hairy woman geeks?
[01:47] <sweetsilence> that`s NASTY! :)
[01:47] <lewwy> ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[01:47] <Epix> its cool
[01:47] <djm62> I like the ubuntu-calendar backgrounds :-/
[01:47] <lewwy> :/
[01:47] <lewwy> :\
[01:47] <lewwy> :|
[01:47] <lewwy> wow
[01:47] <dell500> djm62, where does it cache it to?
[01:47] <nubious> :
[01:47] <djm62> dell500: /usr/share/backgrounds IIRC
[01:48] <Nalioth> shadeofgrey, sorry if this has been brought up, but plugins should go in your home directory in the .mozilla/firefox directory
[01:48] <djm62> tasteful nudity, that's all
[01:48] <Epix> sudo apt-get moo
[01:48] <nubious> If I downloaded BitchX, what would be the optimal place to put it so all users have access?
[01:49] <nubious> in /bin/ ?
[01:49] <dell500> djm62, what's the IIRC??
[01:49] <djm62> but it's that stage beyond user-friendly where you start to think ubuntu actually /likes/ you
[01:49] <tizen> apt-get install bitchx will do it for you
[01:49] <dark> i know it does
[01:49] <djm62> dell500: If I Recall Correctly (I checked, that's right)
[01:49] <nubious> ahh nice
[01:49] <dell500> what are you talkin about, ubuntu DOES like me :)
[01:49] <nubious> haha dell
[01:49] <lewwy> hey guys, i downloaded nvidia-glx but it doesnt appear to be working.  any suggestions?
[01:49] <nubious> I feel the same way
[01:49] <nubious> :D
[01:49] <lewwy> (via synaptic)
[01:49] <djm62> lewwy: did you restart X?
[01:50] <dell500> i went to /usr/share/backgrounds and there's only 2 default ones
[01:50] <Nalioth> nubious, it should install for everyone
[01:50] <nubious> k cool
[01:50] <nubious> thx
[01:50] <nubious> brb
[01:50] <nubious> trying
[01:50] <lewwy> djm62: yeh i did the whole ctrl alt backspace thingo
[01:50] <lewwy> still no go
[01:50] <daniels> nubious: there are packages; install it from synaptic
[01:50] <djm62> dell500: you need to install ubuntu-calendar, and maybe a few of the past months: ubuntu-calendar-february etc
[01:51] <djm62> lewwy: is it getting loaded from xorg.conf?
[01:51] <nubious> nubious@ubox:~ $ sudo apt-get install bitchx
[01:51] <nubious> Reading Package Lists... Done
[01:51] <nubious> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[01:51] <nubious> E: Couldn't find package bitchx
[01:51] <nubious> nubious@ubox:~ $
[01:51] <matara> it's a bitch getting it to work with an ati in dual
[01:51] <nubious> ????
[01:51] <lewwy> well to jump ahead, i tried modprobing nv but it didnt work
[01:51] <lewwy> driver didnt exist
[01:51] <daniels> nubious: it's in universe
[01:51] <daniels> lewwy: nv is not a kernel module
[01:51] <djm62> I must now sleep...it's late in scotland
[01:51] <lok> why but why do you want bitchx ?
[01:51] <goldfish_> nubious: dont use bitch XXX
[01:51] <goldfish_> nubious: get irssi
[01:51] <nubious> bah
[01:51] <djm62> best of british to you all
[01:51] <nubious> bitchx is oldsk00l
[01:51] <lok> nope
[01:51] <nubious> it hits home
[01:51] <matara> sorry]
[01:51] <nubious> hehe
[01:51] <lewwy> ah ok
[01:52] <nubious> irssi then hey?
[01:52] <djm62> nights
[01:52] <lok> irssi too why this thing
[01:52] <dell500> djm62, does the calendar just run in the background or ??
[01:52] <lewwy> so if i add nv to xorg.conf under video it'll make it work?
[01:52] <goldfish_> irssi rules.
[01:52] <lok> nothing
[01:52] <lok> why do you want a text client ?
[01:52] <Eighth> anyone wanna help me install ubuntu?
[01:53] <lewwy> never!
[01:53] <sweetsilence> nope
[01:53] <goldfish_> text is great
[01:53] <goldfish_> i just love console based stuff
[01:53] <matara> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:53] <loren>  is there a difference between bootsplash and grub splash?
[01:53] <nubious> text clients rule.
[01:53] <lok> goldfish_, to be l33t ?
[01:53] <goldfish_> lok: nah, i just prefer it.
[01:53] <nubious> loren: boot splash is while it's loading - grub splash is a splashscreen while you're waiting to login, no?
[01:54] <goldfish_> lok: i'm only new to nix, far from l33t :)
[01:54] <dark> irssi does rule :-D
[01:54] <loren> nubious: so you mean the login screen is grub splash?
[01:54] <g14> no
[01:54] <g14> wrong
[01:54] <Eighth> so i've got ubuntu installed, but it hangs at the grub loading screen
[01:54] <lok> goldfish_, you want to impress your friends with text tools :p
[01:54] <g14> grub splash is the pretty boot menu where you choose the os to boot.
[01:54] <dantheman> i'm using this guide to install enlightenment: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20216&highlight=enlightenment
[01:54] <nubious> E: Couldn't find package bitchx
[01:54] <Eighth> i'm using the 64b version, btww
[01:54] <nubious> so bitchx doesn't exist?
[01:54] <goldfish_> lok: em nope, most of them are leet :)
[01:55] <dantheman> but when i try to apt-get install enlightenment, it can't find it
[01:55] <Nalioth> goldfish_, terminal is your friend
[01:55] <nubious> bah
[01:55] <nubious> putty
[01:55] <nubious> eff terminal
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> nubious: better off with irssi
[01:55] <loren> g14: what if there is no erm, choice? does it still have that splash?
[01:55] <Nalioth> goldfish_, it is there for you when X goes away
[01:55] <nubious> k
[01:55] <nubious> sec Hrdwire
[01:55] <nubious> can I go and tube the directory tree it made? (where did it make it)
[01:55] <sweetsilence> Eighth: do you have 64b
[01:55] <dantheman> does anyone know which repository has the enlightenment package?
[01:55] <goldfish_> Nalioth: i have another pc with no X ubuntu, must start playing with it.
[01:55] <sweetsilence> Eighth: do you have 64b CpU?
[01:55] <nubious> ahhhhh
[01:55] <nubious> Package irssi is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:55] <nubious> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:55] <nubious> is only available from another source
[01:55] <nubious> E: Package irssi has no installation candidate
[01:55] <Eighth> sweetsilence: amd64 3400+
[01:55] <g14> loren: If there are 0 choices, it will still have that menu. If you add hiddenmenu, or make the timeout 0 you will never see grub
[01:56] <Eighth> i'm not sure it would instalal on a 32b proc... :P
[01:56] <goldfish_> nubious: irssi-text
[01:56] <sweetsilence> :) nope..not by a long shot
[01:56] <sweetsilence> :)
[01:56] <loren> g14: hmmmh alright thanks, btw do you know what to install to get a bootsplash? for ubuntu/kubuntu
[01:56] <dantheman> i have nubious's problem, except it can't find enlightenment
[01:56] <nubious_> WEWP
[01:56] <nubious_> nice
[01:56] <sweetsilence> Eighth: installer wouldn`t allow it..
[01:56] <Eighth> any ideas on why my machine would hang at grub loading?
[01:56] <nubious_> <-- irssi
[01:56] <LinuxJones> loren, the devs are working on one right now :)
[01:57] <Eighth> it's at stage1.5 if that helps
[01:57] <g14> loren: Yes, you need to patch the kernel, set up the bootsplash userspace, edit all of your init boot scripts, and make sure the sun and moon are in alignment
[01:57] <nubuntious> ?
[01:57] <g14> loren: Unless your a pretty advanced linux user I would suggest you wait until breezy comes out with usplash
[01:57] <nubuntious> erm
[01:57] <loren> LinuxJones: do you know as to the status of it? i'm really REALLY badly needing to get a bootsplash because i'm trying to make linux as easy and simple to use to anyone and everyone,
[01:58] <loren> g14: oh usplash?
[01:58] <LinuxJones> loren, yeah usplash
[01:58] <nubious> loren: why do you need a boot splash though?  after it loads all your dependancies, it works.. no?
[01:58] <loren> g14: hmmh i think i tired that but it stopped showing when it was at like 60% which is erm not as awsome at the moment
[01:58] <loren> nubious: im working on making a OEM version of linux for a company and i need it to be "pretty" so it sells and doesn't erm scare people away
[01:59] <nubious> ahahah
[01:59] <nubious> fucking corperate america
[01:59] <g14> loren: You could install redhats rhgb into ubuntu, but it will slow down the boot a little bit
[01:59] <nubious> everythings gotta be primped and pretty
[01:59] <loren> nubious: welcome to the club
[01:59] <lewwy> oop language
[01:59] <nubious> sorry
[01:59] <nubious> erm
[01:59] <g14> I don't blame you, I hate the ubuntu boot
[01:59] <dell500> anyone here know if SHN, FLAC, and OGG files are supported to be burned with k3b (i'm searching google as we speak)?
[01:59] <lewwy> yeh
[01:59] <lok> it seems to me that the usplash is easy to install
[01:59] <lewwy> hell its ugly
[01:59] <loren> g14: really hmmh? i'll keep that one in mind i didn't think you could do that
[01:59] <thread> Anyone familliar with ipw2200 and/or encrypted (shared key) wireless networks care to give my issue a stab? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=161762
[01:59] <thread> I can't get on my wireless network here at home.. so I'm teathered to the ethernet cable
[02:00] <loren> g14: redhat's rggb kindof sucks, but whatever works lol
[02:00] <thread> somebody help free me!
[02:00] <nubious> thread: it makes it tought when you wanna smack the system around like a ball tho hey?
[02:00] <LinuxJones> dell500, you can burn anything you have permissions to :)
[02:00] <nubious> tough*
[02:00] <lewwy> thats about all i can do
[02:00] <thread> nubious: yea but that doesn't help
[02:00] <nubious> thread: hmm.. it used to fix the red tube on my monitor...
[02:00] <thread> Heh
[02:00] <nubious> :)
[02:00] <Boohbah> thread: heretic!
[02:00] <thread> Boohbah!
[02:01] <g14> loren: You might check out the current alpha usplash, I haven't tried it out,  but I'll dig up a link if you want
[02:01] <lewwy> logs?
[02:01] <nubious> k so I need HELP!  sudo is laughing at me because I can't figure it out
[02:01] <thread> Boohbah: who's a heretic?
[02:01] <lok> sudo sux
[02:01] <Eighth> nubious: did you set yourself up as a sudoer?
[02:01] <nubious> well
[02:01] <nubious> no
[02:01] <nubious> but
[02:01] <nubious> here's the issue
[02:01] <loren> g14: please, i'd really appreciate it, i did try a version not to long ago but i dont think  it was alpha splash
[02:01] <LinuxJones> lok, what's the difference between su and sudo ?
[02:01] <synd> whys backports so slow?
[02:01] <nubious> I have a voice server running - and I wanna have it load at boot.. yesterday I got help setting up my own script at boot, so thats dont
[02:01] <nubious> err
[02:01] <nubious> done
[02:02] <nubious> but now when the server loads up, it says DO NOT RUN AS ROOT
[02:02] <nubious> (at boot)
[02:02] <nubious> so I try with sudo
[02:02] <nubious> but it dun work
[02:02] <g14> nubious: what server?
[02:02] <nubious> teamspeak rc2
[02:02] <lok> linuxboy, sudo give you temporarly root rights and su put you on root
[02:02] <nubious> www.goteamspeak.com
[02:02] <lewwy> lol whys everyone carrying on about fixing linux problems in forums by typing rm -rf /, ima gonna go try it brb
[02:02] <HrdwrBoB> sudo -s
[02:02] <tiefox> anyone installed vmware in ubuntu ?
[02:02] <batoms> is there a common name service caching daemon for ubuntu
[02:02] <nubious> -s?
[02:02] <HrdwrBoB> will give you a shell
[02:02] <lok> just that type sudo sudo sudo sudo too all command that I have to do in root bother me
[02:02] <LinuxJones> lok, who in their right mind wants root all the time :)
[02:02] <synd>  whys backports so slow?
[02:02] <mjr> nubious, try "su -c command_to_run_server username"
[02:03] <nubious> k
[02:03] <nubious> one sec
[02:03] <HrdwrBoB> lok: on an average day, I don't use root at all on my PC
[02:03] <lewwy> yeh, but what about installing packages
[02:03] <nubious> no wait mjr
[02:03] <nubious> I want it to load at BOOT
[02:03] <lewwy> i have to use it, im addicted to su :)
[02:03] <lok> LinuxJones, when I have to install a chroot then debootstrap configure some tools etc... I prefere note type sudo all the times
[02:03] <loren> g14: usplash isn't the same thing as splashy right?
[02:04] <nubious> erm
[02:04] <nubious> nbevermind - I'll try it
[02:04] <batoms> how long before the root or no root discussion gets old
[02:04] <lewwy> 5 years, 3 months, 2 weeks, 5 days, 10 hours, 32 seconds, 150 milliseconds
[02:04] <g14> loren: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/USplash
[02:04] <g14> loren: No they are different
[02:05] <loren> g14: thank you
[02:05] <loren> g14: i'll check it out
[02:05] <batoms> lewwy: is that how long before it gets old
[02:05] <lewwy> eh
[02:05] <lewwy> yeh
[02:05] <lok> and commands like sudo mkdir foo && sudo chown root:root foo is a bit boring when you have to deal in some directories like usr or etc
[02:05] <batoms> lewwy: how about vi vs emacs
[02:05] <lewwy> (i'm being sarcastic)
[02:05] <nubious> bah.. nano all the way
[02:05] <nubious> :D
[02:06] <goldfish_> hehe
[02:06] <goldfish_> nano, yes !
[02:06] <goldfish_> i must learn vim.
[02:06] <matara> pico rules
[02:06] <g14> loren: for prettyness though, you would probably be better off using rhgb and just trim down the boot time using something like initng, ever heard of that?
[02:06] <lewwy> ARGH
[02:06] <LinuxJones> lok, man bash :)
[02:06] <lewwy> STUPID WINE
[02:06] <nubious> lewwy: try winex?
[02:06] <loren> 614: not yet i'll write it down and search it
[02:06] <lok> LinuxJones, ?
[02:06] <lewwy> off cvs?
[02:06] <batoms> i reverse engineered ms notepad to linux and use that
[02:06] <lewwy> hey wait where can i get winex
[02:07] <lewwy> omg illegal!
[02:07] <LinuxJones> lok, write some scripts dude
[02:07] <nubious> UHHH
[02:07] <nubious> er
[02:07] <nubious> caps lock
[02:07] <nubious> was I just kicked?
[02:07] <batoms> does anyone know a name service cache daemon for ubunti
[02:07] <lok> LinuxJones, why do I have to make an alias when I do not have to do this if I'm logged in root ?
[02:07] <nubious> or was it my cat that walked across the keyboard that caused my window to close
[02:08] <lewwy> guys where can i get winex from?
[02:08] <lewwy> apart from cvs...
[02:08] <dell500> LinuxJones, in data format, but what about audio??
[02:08] <hyphenated> lewwy: you subscribe to transgaming to get access to cedega downloads. (they renamed winex to cedega)
[02:09] <thechitowncubs> Hey, if Adobe was to create Dreamweaver for Linux, would they have to develop it specifically for KDE or Gnome? And would it work across all distrobutions?
[02:09] <lok> lewwy, winnex isn't it cedega now ?
[02:09] <matara> try winetools
[02:09] <thechitowncubs> I use cedega, it works great
[02:09] <thechitowncubs> i paid for the subscription
[02:09] <lewwy> yeh, but a) cedega costs moneys b) winex is free c) cvscedega doesnt work
[02:10] <lewwy> bah
[02:10] <g14> thechitowncubs, Adobe has their own gui toolkit that they open sourced
[02:10] <hyphenated> thechitowncubs: they'd have to choose Gtk or Qt, probably. neither of those depend on the desktop environment, but KDE has a lot of Qt stuff in it, and Gnome has a lot of GTK stuff in it
[02:10] <loren> thechitowncubs: if you cancel your subscription do you loose your ability to play games?
[02:10] <lewwy> ubuntu/kubuntu is free
[02:10] <lewwy> if im going to pay for anything, it'll be the OS
[02:10] <hyphenated> g14: which one's that?
[02:10] <g14> hyphenated, let me try to dig up the slashdot article
[02:10] <lewwy> not some third party util thats ripped from something free anyway
[02:10] <matara> it worked dor me with winetools with has good documentation and simplerer install
[02:10] <hyphenated> lewwy: winex wasn't free
[02:10] <LinuxJones> lok, I don't really care if you log into root, it's not a great idea to do it though. You can easily bork your system if you type in the wrong command :)
[02:11] <nubious> hey when my system boods I get two hardcore modprobe fatal errors when it starts the hotplug system - is there a way I can disbale that?
[02:11] <hyphenated> g14: I can search, I was just hoping you knew off the top of your head
[02:11] <thechitowncubs> Loren: no, you just lose your ability to download new updates
[02:11] <thechitowncubs> hyphenated: What does firefox use? GTK?
[02:11] <hyphenated> thechitowncubs: yup
[02:11] <thechitowncubs> Ah IC
[02:11] <nubious> argh
[02:12] <thechitowncubs> What do you think the possibility of a dreamweaver for linux is
[02:12] <loren> thechitownbus: hmmh then i actually might consider buying it hmmmh
[02:12] <nubious> who told me to try the su -c command to start the server?
[02:12] <g14> Adobe has reopened opensource.adobe.com, which now contains the Adobe Source Libraries, a collection of free C++ code released under the MIT License. Currently this includes Eve, a dialog auto-layout engine, and Adam, which is a supporting modeling engine used for describing constraints and relationships. Foreword quote:
[02:12] <thechitowncubs> im no bus
[02:12] <nubious> I'm getting a different error now
[02:12] <lok> LinuxJones, well I never rip on my keyboard and wrote rm -rf / but it's possible I'll have to paid attention to what I do in root mode sure ;)
[02:12] <nubious> unknown PID: start
[02:12] <loren> thechitownbus: it's been done, i think crossover does it good, and wine i think can do it too
[02:12] <g14> http://opensource.adobe.com/main.html
[02:12] <lewwy> goldfish_: are you going to send it?
[02:13] <thechitowncubs> I realize that, but a native linux port would be amazing and would really open up linux to more markets.
[02:13] <loren> g14: holly crap, did that merging or macromedia and adobe ever finally finish?
[02:13] <g14> loren, Yes it was finalized a bit ago
[02:14] <g14> loren, both Macromedia and Adobe are dipping their feet in linux. So this is good. I would really like to see photoshop on linux
[02:14] <g14> Gimp doesn't cut it for making lots of web graphics
[02:14] <loren> g14: wow, that's scary, they were HUGE companies and both have great products, and now they're even huger, you serious? holy
[02:14] <g14> I tried to use it
[02:14] <g14> loren, Thats good
[02:14] <loren> g14: Photoshop for linux would mean a new power in the linux world
[02:14] <thechitowncubs> I would really like to see Dreamweaver, Photoshop would be amazing, but that would pretty much kill the gimp.
[02:14] <ubuntu> y'a t'il 1 francais??   MERCI !!
[02:14] <Marble2> Photoshop isn't free
[02:14] <g14> thechitowncubs, No it wouldn't you would still have to pay like $500 for photoshop
[02:14] <Marble2> The Gimp is
[02:15] <ubuntu> y'a t'il 1 francais??   MERCI !!
[02:15] <thechitowncubs> Very true..
[02:15] <Marble2> And warez copies of PS for linux would take a while
[02:15] <loren> Marble2: photoshop isn't free, but the fact that it could be linux native is quite a statement when graphics developers find out
[02:15] <Marble2> yknow
[02:15] <thechitowncubs> Why is that?
[02:15] <g14> thechitowncubs, But it would do something else... it would open up linux to graphics designers and web designers that would never think of using it previouosly
[02:15] <loren> Marble2: not to mention linux is cheaper than OS X and about the same speed from my understanding
[02:15] <ubuntu> y'a t'il 1 francais??   MERCI !!
[02:15] <Marble2> true
[02:16] <loren> g14: where did you hear about the possability for native linux applications?
[02:16] <Marble2> ubuntu: stop spamming
[02:16] <nubious> hmm
[02:16] <loren> ubuntu: no hablas france
[02:16] <MuStR> has anyone successfully installed final fantasy 7?
[02:16] <nubious> hahaha
[02:16] <loren> :D
[02:16] <thechitowncubs> gl4: Thats what I was thinking about... and since linux is progressing so nicely now, the market share will only go up farther w/ great app additions like those
[02:16] <nubious> parles vous englais, ubuntu?
[02:16] <g14> loren: Adobe opensourced those libraries hoping someone would help them port them to run on linux. So they can later down the road release software on linux
[02:16] <loren> MuStR: do a google search
[02:16] <MuStR> I installed it using crossover, but it's giving me a sound card error
[02:16] <MuStR> did
[02:17] <Nalioth> ubuntu, s'il vous plait en le #ubuntu-fr
[02:17] <thechitowncubs> Mustr: is it a game?
[02:17] <ubuntu> non pas englais
[02:17] <MuStR> heh
[02:17] <MuStR> yes it is
[02:17] <loren> g14: wow, i'm sure there will be those that will help, it'd be something i'd look into if i knew more about the linux operating system infrastructure
[02:17] <thechitowncubs> k, use cedega
[02:17] <Marble2> ubuntu: nouse ne parlons pas francais
[02:17] <Marble2> nouse rather
[02:17] <Marble2> -e
[02:17] <Marble2> dammit
[02:17] <g14> loren, Adobe was smart in writing those libraries in C+. That keeps them pretty portable as far as porting to other platforms like linux
[02:17] <thread> who's gotten their wireless card to work with a netgear wireless router using shared key wep authentication?
[02:17] <Marble2> forget french
[02:18] <MuStR> the game is already installled
[02:18] <nubious> hehe
[02:18] <MuStR> it's just giving me a sound card error
[02:18] <g14> thread, want to see why to never ever ever use WEP?
[02:18] <loren> g14: indeed, C++ was and is and will most likely for a VERY long time be the standard, it runs on everything
[02:18] <MuStR> (it's saying there isn't a directsound-compatible card)
[02:18] <thread> g14: um... ok
[02:18] <g14> thread, Go to http://www.whoppix.net and click on demos. Then click on WEP attack or whatever
[02:18] <Nalioth> g14 i want to see i want to see show me show me show me
[02:18] <loren> g14: are their mainstream applications however writeen in C++ or some other more crapish language
[02:19] <g14> thread, it takes all of 10 minutes for me to crack 90% of WEP "encrypted" networks with my new laptop
[02:19] <g14> loren, yes they are c++ from what I hear
[02:19] <thread> g14: what's the alternative?
[02:19] <nubious> bbiab
[02:19] <thread> g14: I obviously don't know much about this wireless stuff
[02:19] <metalsand> g14, can you help me get PCMCIA card working?
[02:20] <g14> thread, WPA
[02:20] <g14> metalsand, nope
[02:20] <metalsand> lol
[02:20] <thechitowncubs> I'm surprised people don't know more about Adobe's position on linux.
[02:20] <metalsand> Thanks
[02:20] <metalsand> g14, what software do you use?
[02:20] <thread> g14: I just got a new laptop as well with a ipw2200 card.. and I am having a lot of trouble getting on our wireless network
[02:20] <loren> g14: very good, so they were smart, i hope macromedia was simular, wow you're being flodded with people talking to you lol, arn't you popular tonight? :D
[02:20] <g14> metalsand, for what?
[02:20] <metalsand> Cracking WEP
[02:20] <g14> metalsand, Go view that demo I said for thread to look at
[02:21] <g14> metalsand, I use airsnort, kismet, and weblab
[02:21] <metalsand> I wasn't here when you said that....
[02:21] <ThomasWinwood> Hmm. I might crack the WEP-protected wireless networks in my street if I get bored.
[02:21] <g14> *weplab
[02:21] <thechitowncubs> thread: i have an ipw2200
[02:21] <thechitowncubs> what brand is your laptop
[02:21] <metalsand> I recently saw some info about weplab on the netstumbler forums
[02:21] <thread> thechitowncubs: it's a dell inspiron 700m
[02:21] <metalsand> That's what I have, thread
[02:21] <g14> metalsand, Go to http://www.whoppix.net and click on demos. Then click on the WEP demo
[02:21] <metalsand> You get in on the amazing deal?
[02:21] <thread> thechitowncubs: I can't get on my wep network
[02:21] <copilot> Anyone know of a guide to getting Illustrator to work under WINE?
[02:21] <thechitowncubs> Hmmm
[02:22] <thread> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=161762
[02:22] <g14> copilot, Take a look at inkscape and scribus
[02:22] <thechitowncubs> how much linux experience do you have?
[02:22] <Nub> HELP: ubuntu doesn't see Microsoft PCI Adapter MN-130 #2 (nic card)
[02:22] <thechitowncubs> thread, how much linux experience do you have?
[02:22] <thread> thechitowncubs: a whole lot
[02:23] <loren> g14: that's totally awsome though, macromedia and adobe are totally going to kick the crap out of windows, linux has been needing major software companies to lead the way, not to mention adobe+macorodmia is without a doubt the biggest software companies on the market, now i guess all they need is to acquire sun's OpenOffice.org Eh?
[02:23] <copilot> g14, I shall, thanks.
[02:23] <thread> thechitowncubs: don't know konw the wireless stuff so well, thogh
[02:23] <hybrid_goth>   /join Amiga
[02:23] <hybrid_goth> damn
[02:23] <thechitowncubs> thread: What exactly doesn't it do
[02:23] <g14> loren: Macromedia put up a poll on their website asking how many people thought they should support linux
[02:23] <loren> g14: is it closed?
[02:23] <thechitowncubs> gl4: what were the results
[02:23] <thread> thechitowncubs: did you see the forum thread I started?
[02:23] <thread> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=161762
[02:23] <g14> loren: They said if enough ppl wanted it, they would port the flash plugin to linux
[02:23] <thechitowncubs> oh ok
[02:23] <loren> :D
[02:24] <dell500> does anyone here know if k3b is able to accept SHN files??
[02:24] <dell500> or if there is a way for k3b to accept them
[02:24] <g14> loren: What you can do, is find the contact forms on their webpage and send them emails asking about linux support for stuff like dreamweaver and flash
[02:24] <g14> seriously, thats how you get them to do it
[02:24] <Eighth> send lots of correspondence to them
[02:24] <loren> g14: very awsome, very awsome indeed, i forgot what specifically was missing on linux but i believe it was a newer version of flash or something like that, i remember i had problems with flash on linux before
[02:24] <thechitowncubs> thread: do you use 128 bit?
[02:24] <Eighth> it's annoying not having the plugin
[02:24] <loren> g14: done and done
[02:24] <lewwy> [slash]  use wine
[02:24] <thread> thechitowncubs: dhclient doesn't get an ip, and wpa_supplicant (that I don't really understand either) doesn't seem to work
[02:24] <lok> g14, wow I known that wep was simple to crack but like THAT
[02:25] <thread> thechitowncubs: yes, 128 bit, shared key
[02:25] <thread> thechitowncubs: channel 5
[02:25] <g14> lok: :) I don't need to say anything else do I?
[02:25] <loren> g14: yeah direct contact
[02:25] <lok> I even don't imagine that simple was
[02:25] <thechitowncubs> thread: do you live in a populated area?
[02:25] <g14> lok: And thats why you NEVER USE WEP. If you do wireless, use WPA
[02:25] <nubious> ok
[02:25] <thread> thechitowncubs: not really...
[02:25] <thechitowncubs> mine as well use 64 bit
[02:25] <thechitowncubs> or at least try it
[02:26] <thread> thechitowncubs: we're not too worried about getting our network cracked
[02:26] <nubious> would it work if in my startup script I put cd /serverdirectorystructure/ and THEN launched the server?
[02:26] <thechitowncubs> Thats what I am using on my ipw2200...
[02:26] <lok> I think to continue to use ethernet protocole during sometimes :p
[02:26] <g14> nubious, What server are you trying to start?
[02:26] <nubious> Teamspeak
[02:26] <metalsand> WPA-AES with a 20 digit case, character and number key :D
[02:26] <nubious> it's giving me an error saying it can't find a file, which is in the server directory
[02:26] <Nalioth> g14 <whine> flash doesnt work on my PPC </whine> i caint see the purty pitchers of the WEP gettin wallopped
[02:26] <g14> Nalioth, Well bookmark that and check it out when you get a chance
[02:27] <hybrid_goth> Nalioth: yea i hate macromedia for that
[02:27] <lok> mmmh maybe my school use wep .... good :)
[02:27] <Nalioth> g14 i already know how wep suxors
[02:27] <metalsand> I can't belive all these people are facisnated with WEP cracks
[02:27] <Nalioth> g14 i'm jest pullin yer ol leg
[02:28] <Nub> help: Ubuntu doesn't recognize microsoft PCI Adapter MN-130 #2 (nic card)
[02:28] <g14> lok: probably so. 95% of ppl actually believe wep is secure. Let them keep on thinking. just a few more minutes with weplab...
[02:28] <hybrid_goth> wep is *old*
[02:28] <Eighth> it's better than nothing
[02:28] <Eighth> if only as a deterrant
[02:28] <Nalioth> g14 on my mac with kismac, most networks are minutes in the opening (if they use wep)
[02:28] <metalsand> Go down the block another 30 seconds and you'll find an open one ;)
[02:28] <lok> hybrid_goth, in most country wifi is new
[02:28] <shido6> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[02:28] <shido6> kernel?
[02:29] <Nalioth> g14 strictly educational use, of course (i can always drive around the corner and find a welcome fully open wap)
[02:29] <hybrid_goth> lok: where?
[02:29] <g14> Nalioth, sure, thats what they all say
[02:29] <lewwy> ok chumps
[02:29] <qmanman|away> shido: /usr/src/linux-headers(version)
[02:30] <shido6>  /lib/modules/<<module release number>>/build/include
[02:30] <bestadvocate> hey guys is there a way to get the mouse working when your stuck in text mode for programs, like lynx, elinks, bitchx emacs or whatever?
[02:30] <Nalioth> g14, come on, i drive a taxi in Houston. my stumbler finds hundreds of waps each day (wish i had a gps unit to map them)
[02:31] <g14> Nalioth, You should, then you could publish the coordinates online :)
[02:31] <Nalioth> bestadvocate, there is but i cant rememember how to do it
[02:31] <metalsand> g14, what kind of mapping software do you use
[02:31] <metalsand> kismet supported stuff?
[02:31] <Nalioth> g14 not to mention always having my next waiting spot planned out
[02:31] <qmanman> shido: yeah your modules directory should be linked to that
[02:32] <hyphenated> is mac-based authentication about as much of a waste of time as wep is?
[02:32] <g14> metalsand, I don't map points. I don't do much wardriving because there are about 4 WEP AP's in this building
[02:32] <bestadvocate> Nalioth: i did some googleing but all i got was "on such and such my mouse was not working", usually a red-hat or Suse installer question
[02:32] <hybrid_goth> Nalioth: i think the made a gameboy sp gps
[02:32] <g14> hyphenated, It will take a slightly more skilled hacker to break mac based encryption. But in reality, it's easy to beat too
[02:32] <metalsand> g14, what GPS device would you recommend to me
[02:32] <shido6> qmanman, thanks I had to do a  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[02:32] <shido6> first
[02:32] <metalsand> USB is perferred
[02:32] <bestadvocate> Nalioth: any ideas on where I should look? or key terms to look with?
[02:32] <metalsand> For a connection to my laptop
[02:32] <qmanman> shido: cool
[02:33] <hyphenated> g14: so in reality, WEP encryption + MAC authentication is just going to take longer?
[02:33] <loren> g14: shoot it's hard to find macromedia's email link
[02:33] <metalsand> hyphenated, Yes
[02:33] <qmanman> man gnome needs a better wifi applet
[02:33] <hybrid_goth> qmanman: i like os x wifi applet
[02:33] <hyphenated> are there any recommendations about how often a 10-digit key should be changed?
[02:33] <hyphenated> (sorry that this is completely off-topic for ubuntu) :-)
[02:33] <g14> metalsand, never much played with gps, sorry I don't know
[02:34] <metalsand> hybrid_goth, if it's a home network... never
[02:34] <qmanman> hybrid: I agree
[02:34] <metalsand> No one would really bother, like I said earlier drive another 30 seconds and there's a completely open network
[02:34] <hybrid_goth> metalsand: do what
[02:34] <metalsand> Breaking a home network's WEP
[02:35] <thread> thechitowncubs: so yeah.... 64 bit didn't help
[02:35] <hybrid_goth> o
[02:35] <g14> hyphenated, When I use kismet to sniff your "encrypted packets" it will show your ip and your mac address
[02:35] <g14> hyphenated, it is pretty trivial to change your mac address in linux and it's just a registry hack to do the same in windows
[02:35] <hybrid_goth> metalsand: have you seen the wifi absorbing paint
[02:35] <dark> macchanger > *
[02:36] <metalsand> hybrid_goth, heard of it
[02:36] <hyphenated> g14: well, what happens when there's a clash of MAC addresses on a network?
[02:36] <metalsand> only real use I can think of it is for resteraunts trying to luer people in to wireless networks
[02:36] <hybrid_goth> metalsand: if i lived where ppl could steal my network i would use it
[02:37] <g14> hyphenated, It depends on the access point. You can do something called arp poisioning to knock the other computer off though alot of the time
[02:37] <metalsand> Wherever you live people could steal your network
[02:37] <metalsand> there's just a .0000001% chance it will happen
[02:37] <g14> hyphenated, that is the same way you can sniff all data on alot of switches
[02:37] <bestadvocate> anyone know any good command line music players?
[02:37] <thechitowncubs> Thread, hmmm
[02:37] <g14> mpg123
[02:37] <hybrid_goth> metalsand: i live a half mile from the road with a neighbor a quarter mile away
[02:38] <metalsand> hybrid_goth, you're prefectly fine with WEP
[02:38] <thechitowncubs> gl4: I'm submitting a feature request in order for them to get Dreamweaver onto linux... here is the link if more want to do the same... http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/?6213=6
[02:38] <metalsand> unless you're the most paranoid person in the world
[02:38] <g14> thechitowncubs, Thankyou for posting the link
[02:38] <thread> ugh.. gotta get a hold of my irc client
[02:38] <hyphenated> metalsand: or running a business where things getting stolen actually costs money
[02:38] <hybrid_goth> metalsand: i dont even run that who is going to steal it? and i dont send real sensitive stuff much
[02:38] <bestadvocate> g14, thanks but Ubuntu only has 321 and I dont see a way to skip to the next song easilly, or tell it how to play everything in a directory recusively.  is that possible with mpg321? do you know how?
[02:38] <hybrid_goth> if at all
[02:39] <g14> bestadvocate, nope, never played with that one. Read the man page or look for a howto with google
[02:39] <metalsand> hyphenated, right
[02:39] <metalsand> hyphenated, but then you'd probably want a VPN anyway.. Something really secure
[02:39] <bestadvocate> g14, yah i read the man it doesnt look like it was possible,
[02:39] <g14> bestadvocate, that sucks
[02:40] <ksmurf> hello all.
[02:40] <hyphenated> indeed. they don't have that at work, but they have WEP + MAC auth, and the WEP key hasn't been changed for a long while
[02:40] <ksmurf> any ideas on how to get my sound (audigy 2) working?
[02:40] <g14> hyphenated, Mac spoofing <- thats the term is very trivial
[02:40] <lewwy> man
[02:40] <lewwy> what a joke
[02:41] <lewwy> nothing even works under cedega
[02:41] <matara> ksmurk tried the mixer settings?
[02:41] <metalsand> g14
[02:41] <metalsand> so what exactly is whoppix
[02:41] <ksmurf> yes I checked the audigy digital tab ... right?
[02:41] <metalsand> a cd with kismet, airsnort and ...
[02:41] <g14> metalsand, whoppix is a professional hacker toolkit
[02:41] <lewwy> hey how do i copy something and include the subdirectories?
[02:41] <g14> metalsand, they call us computer security specialists
[02:42] <fallstorm> lewwy, cp -r
[02:42] <lewwy> thx
[02:42] <metalsand> I'm familar with auditing and all that
[02:42] <matara> are you conneted digital at all
[02:42] <metalsand> but what exactly is whoppx
[02:42] <g14> It contains pretty much the entire packetstormsecurity.org exploit archive and the best hacking tools available
[02:42] <HrdwrBoB> lewwy: 'nothing'?
[02:42] <g14> metalsand, Did you read what I said?
[02:42] <lewwy> HrdwrBoB: yep nothing
[02:42] <lewwy> not even soldat
[02:42] <matara> if not turn it off as there will no analog sound come out if on
[02:42] <lewwy> and soldat is like, super mcbasic d3d
[02:42] <g14> Whoppix is a bootable cd like knoppix that is designed specificly for penetration testing aka hacking
[02:43] <g14> For someone that actually knows what they are doing
[02:43] <HrdwrBoB> lewwy: I personally use it for farcry, warcraft3 and world of warcraft
[02:43] <lewwy> ooh ooh
[02:43] <metalsand> what OS and how much support is there for it g14
[02:43] <HrdwrBoB> so more than nothing works
[02:43] <DKT> how can i turn off laptop monitor (blank and backlight), no X installed ?
[02:43] <lewwy> but did you install those games under cedega?
[02:43] <shido6> crap
[02:43] <shadeofgrey> okay
[02:43] <shido6> ok vmware is working, but it stole my moue
[02:43] <shido6> mouse
[02:43] <HrdwrBoB> lewwy: yes
[02:43] <lewwy> or just install them in windows and then play in linux
[02:43] <HrdwrBoB> I don't have windows
[02:43] <lewwy> ah
[02:43] <g14> metalsand, Maybe if you read the website, you will notice it is based off of knoppix so I would guess it is linux
[02:43] <lewwy> henceforth my problem
[02:43] <thread> g14: did you see my forum post? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32300
[02:44] <lewwy> i don't have any install cd's
[02:44] <shadeofgrey> what are my options for desktop publishing -- i need something capable of rendering an entire 45 page magazine
[02:44] <shido6> how do I restart or gain control over my mouse again, when i watch DVD's i loose my mouse, too in vlc, xine, or anything else
[02:44] <metalsand> Oh, I wasn't aware that knoppix was a Linux OS
[02:44] <lewwy> but like, it should still work
[02:44] <HrdwrBoB> lewwy: well then, pay for your games
[02:44] <shadeofgrey> ....and all the eyecandy for my novels
[02:44] <lewwy> touhce
[02:44] <HrdwrBoB> THEN come and whinge
[02:44] <metalsand> I  assumed it was simply a program
[02:44] <g14> shadeofgrey, Several professional desktop publishing companies are turning to scribus on linux to create magazines
[02:44] <shadeofgrey> really?
[02:44] <lewwy> good point HrdwrBoB
[02:44] <shadeofgrey> why arent any of those companies listed then?
[02:45] <hyphenated> metalsand: knoppix famous for being a bootable distro that works on damn near anything, and having more tools than you'd expect on a single CD
[02:45] <g14> shadeofgrey, I have read about it on osnews. Search around and you will find it
[02:45] <dantheman> i desperately need help
[02:45] <dantheman> i've destroyed gnome
[02:45] <HrdwrBoB> lewwy: http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/
[02:45] <loren> g14: For the OSS Community i just sent em the request
[02:45] <g14> loren: thankyou
[02:45] <loren> g14: For the OSS Community i just sent em the request
[02:45] <dantheman> i was attempting to install enlightenment, following the instructions to install from CVS
[02:45] <[RR] Sean> how do you restart services in ubuntu (console command/gui menu?)
[02:46] <loren> g14: :D i want to see macromedia/adobe application on linux as well, especially photoshop
[02:46] <dantheman> and suddenly when i clicked on applications to start them, i would get the panel thing telling me it was starting them
[02:46] <loren> g14: ot
[02:46] <dantheman> but the applications wouldn't open
[02:46] <dantheman> so i restarted X
[02:46] <Nubuntu_> I am looking for a bit of support - paid or unpaid.  Is there anyone qualified?
[02:46] <loren> g14: it'll be the next milestone
[02:46] <dantheman> and i get the error:
[02:46] <g14> nubious: check whisper
[02:46] <nubious> 10-4
[02:46] <nubious> one sec
[02:46] <dantheman> gdm: error while loading shared libraries: libXdmcp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:46] <dantheman> does anyone know what i can do to fix this?
[02:47] <metalsand> Find the right address of the file?
[02:47] <Nubuntu_> Anyone want to offer their one on one chat support.  I am willing to pay.
[02:47] <goldfish_> bestadvocate: mp3blaster is good
[02:47] <hyphenated> Nubuntu_: there are plenty of links on the ubuntu website for finding people who offer support for money
[02:47] <hyphenated> Nubuntu_: but lots of people just ask in here, and see what they can get
[02:47] <RastaMahata> hello, I need help with gnomebaker regarding the mtab problem...
[02:48] <hyphenated> Nubuntu_: so just ask your question and see what happens
[02:48] <dantheman> anyone at all?
[02:48] <lewwy> hey, how can i check if nvidia-glx is working correctly?
[02:48] <dantheman> i can't use gnome
[02:48] <xenoo00> anyone running on a ppc?
[02:48] <dantheman> i'm desparate
[02:48] <g14> dantheman, sounds like your gonna need to remove gdm and reinstall it
[02:48] <dantheman> okay
[02:48] <dantheman> how do i that?
[02:48] <g14> dantheman, thats a pretty fatal error
[02:48] <tritium> dantheman, what's happening that you can't use it?
[02:49] <dantheman> apt-get remove gdm?
[02:49] <dantheman> apt-get install gdm?
[02:49] <dantheman> gdm: error while loading shared libraries: libXdmcp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:49] <tritium> apt-get install --reinstall gdm
[02:49] <loren> anyone know how far beta29 is compared to when 1.0's expected to come out
[02:49] <hyphenated> dantheman: what does dpkg libxdmcp6 (on the last line)
[02:49] <hyphenated> uh.. what does it _say_ :-)
[02:49] <shido6> how do I regain control over my mouse in ubuntu
[02:49] <shido6> ?
[02:49] <dantheman> i have no idea
[02:49] <g14> dantheman, tritium has the right command
[02:49] <dantheman> i don't know where that file is
[02:50] <hyphenated> bah.. let's start again. run 'dpkg -l libxdmcp6' and look at the last line :-)
[02:50] <dantheman> uh....how do i do that while i'm using irc from the command line?
[02:50] <hyphenated> switch to another virtual terminal
[02:50] <tritium> dantheman, if you're in v.c. 1, ctrl-alt-f2 to get to v.c. 2
[02:50] <dantheman> alright
[02:51] <thechitowncubs> For all you neowin members : http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=318181
[02:51] <dantheman> pressing ctrl+alt+f# doesn't do anything for me
[02:51] <bestadvocate> hey guys this kind of embarasing, but how do you quit BitchX, I ran out of terminals....
[02:51] <dantheman> oh wait
[02:51] <dantheman> i got it
[02:51] <jmob> bestadvocate: /quit ?
[02:51] <Nalioth> dantheman, are you on a x86 box?
[02:52] <ksmurf> Audigy 2 is a pain to get going.... any ideas???
[02:52] <loren> anyone running the Acgua Theme?
[02:52] <dantheman> dpkg -l libxdmcp6 tells me it's not installed
[02:53] <dantheman> Nalioth: yes
[02:53] <xenoo00> anyone know of a good mbox reader?
[02:53] <thread> somebody who's smart with wireless... please make me a suggestion :/ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32300
[02:53] <thread> should I be using wpa_supplicant? what am I missing in the setting up of my wireless?
[02:54] <dantheman> should i try to install that package?
[02:54] <loren> xenoo00, not quite sure what a mbox is but erm other people might
[02:54] <tritium> dantheman, yes
[02:54] <fallstorm> doesn't mail use mbox?
[02:54] <ksmurf> where can I get an mp3 plugin?
[02:54] <dantheman> can i get it from apt?
[02:54] <tritium> yes
[02:54] <fallstorm> I think thunderbird or evolution can also import mbox folders
[02:54] <fallstorm> not sure though
[02:55] <Nalioth> dantheman, with all this text flyin by, was just checkin ya werent on a weird ol PPC box (with weird key combos)
[02:55] <loren> ksmurf: i think it's something like win32-codecs or something win32 some package do a package search with whatever PM you have
[02:55] <tritium> w32codecs
[02:55] <Burgundavia> ksmurf, you need gstreamer-lame
[02:55] <loren> tritium: there ya go
[02:55] <amaro> join #kubuntu
[02:55] <dantheman> ah, no
[02:56] <loren> amaro: already there lol
[02:56] <ksmurf> tnx
[02:56] <amaro> oh
[02:56] <dantheman> alright, i've got the package installing
[02:56] <amaro> this is the second time today
[02:56] <dantheman> alright, it installed
[02:56] <tritium> dantheman, that should do the trick
[02:56] <amaro> it's because xchat is slow
[02:56] <dantheman> alright
[02:56] <goldfish_> get a real irc client :)
[02:57] <amaro> goldfish_, what's a real irc client?
[02:57] <sig> irssi
[02:57] <goldfish_> irssi !!!
[02:57] <goldfish_> hehe
[02:57] <tritium> RastaMahata, that's not going to announce every new song you listen to, is it?
[02:57] <amaro> wait
[02:57] <goldfish_> amaro: Ah I'm joking, I just prefer irssi.
[02:57] <amaro> let me guess
[02:57] <blueyed> "xxx is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported." - after which a mail to the local user "debian" gets send (which does not exist) and the message bounces to the original user. Is this a bug with the sudo package?
[02:57] <amaro> is that a console-based irc client?
[02:57] <goldfish_> amaro: yep.
[02:57] <amaro> let me guess, you use vi or emacs?
[02:57] <fallstorm> blueyed, it's a failure by the ubuntu developers to change the sudo package for ubuntu :)
[02:58] <fallstorm> you should probably report it on ubuntu's bugzilla
[02:58] <matara> hmm gaming under linux pretty ok
[02:58] <Nalioth> whappd, guess the cat let you loose?
[02:58] <xenoo00> What is a good command line irc client??
[02:58] <blueyed> ok, I will. As it's really a security issue, too.
[02:58] <dantheman> ah, back in gnome
[02:58] <whappd> Malioth ... ?
[02:58] <dantheman> tritium: thank you
[02:58] <tritium> xenoo00, irssi-text
[02:58] <tritium> dantheman, did it work?
[02:58] <jmob> xenoo00: irssi is nice
[02:58] <xenoo00> Thanks
[02:58] <dantheman> tritium: yes it did
[02:59] <Nalioth> whappd, "look what the cat dragged in"
[02:59] <tritium> dantheman, any idea how it got uninstalled?  It's a dependency of gdm and xserver-xorg
[02:59] <whappd> ...
[02:59] <dantheman> tritium: i have no idea
[02:59] <Nalioth> whappd, sorry, twas a convoluted form of "hello"
[02:59] <dantheman> i was using the instructions at http://get-e.org to install enlightenment from cvs
[02:59] <whappd> Yeah, uh, sure.
[02:59] <dantheman> i hadn't deleted anything
[02:59] <dantheman> so i'm not sure how it happened
[03:00] <Razor-X> hey
[03:00] <tritium> dantheman, be careful with non-ubuntu-software like that
[03:00] <dantheman> apparently
[03:01] <Razor-X> I think i'm gonna use PQMagic to dual-boot
[03:01] <dantheman> maybe i'll try to install it from packages
[03:02] <Razor-X> do you think I should partition for Ubuntu beforehand, or during the install?
[03:03] <RastaMahata> woah, graveman beats the hell out of gnomebaker :)
[03:03] <g14> RastaMahata, Why do you say that?
[03:03] <RastaMahata> g14, gnomebaker gave me mtab errors
[03:04] <RastaMahata> graveman doesnt, and it allows me to burn my audio cds without pause between tracks
[03:04] <g14> RastaMahata, good reason. I'll have to check it out
[03:04] <RastaMahata> alvaro_, que tal tocayo
[03:04] <Nalioth> Razor-X, whats the matter with grub/lilo/yaboot?
[03:05] <Razor-X> Nalioth: pain in the arse
[03:05] <Razor-X> what I was gonna do was
[03:05] <Nalioth> Razor-X, ah yes, posterior comfort is a must
[03:05] <Razor-X> install GRUB, make a boot floppy from it, and then fdisk /mbr
[03:05] <Razor-X> and, for that purpose, GRUB just complicates things
[03:06] <Razor-X> rather, it would be easier to use something like PQBoot, but I may use boot floppy
[03:06] <Razor-X> not sure...
[03:07] <scott_> ?exit
[03:09] <DmD> hey, is there an uptime thing i can add to the panel?
[03:09] <DmD> i know how to do it in the terminal but i was just wondering
[03:11] <reD_Rum> what's a good cd burning program with multisession support and all that?
[03:12] <tritium> reD_Rum, graveman and gnomebaker are both good.  many like k3b as well
[03:12] <qmanman> for audio or data?
[03:13] <DmD> anyone know if there's an uptime thing i can add to the panel ?
[03:13] <reD_Rum> both would be nice
[03:14] <reD_Rum> i liked k3b, i have gnomebaker and don't like it. i'll check out graveman
[03:14] <davekempe> hey anyone know if the ubuntu live-cd or installer supports ibm pseries?
[03:14] <bob2> is that a powerpc machine?
[03:15] <daniels> bob2: i think it's the power4/power5 machines
[03:15] <davekempe> its a power5
[03:15] <davekempe> well, the one i have is a power5
[03:16] <davekempe> openpower 720
[03:16] <daniels> davekempe: should work, yeah
[03:16] <davekempe> daniels, - the sarge-netinst-ppc doesn't support it -
[03:17] <davekempe> is the ubuntu image much different?
[03:18] <davekempe> http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ports-status
[03:18] <dantheman> i've installed gtweakui, but what's the command to run it?
[03:18] <dantheman> nevermind
[03:18] <dantheman> found it
[03:19] <bob2> davekempe: you might need to select a non-default kernel
[03:19] <davekempe> bob2 - it doesnt even give me a boot prompt
[03:19] <bob2> ouch
[03:20] <daniels> davekempe: hm, no idea then, sorry.
[03:21] <thread> To all who have listend to me complain about my wireless, I have solved it.
[03:21] <tritium> thread, awesome :)
[03:21] <davekempe> yeah it was a bit of a bitch to even get it to boot off the default ibm supplied suse install
[03:21] <thread> Simply switched from shared to open key method on the router... still have no idea what it means, but I can dhcp now :)
[03:23] <scott_> help
[03:23] <tritium> scott_, go ahead and tell us what's wrong, buddy
[03:23] <Nalioth> scott, tell us
[03:23] <bheung> hmm.
[03:24] <Nalioth> must have been critical, eh?
[03:24] <goldfish_> lol
[03:25] <torpid> is there any agp graphics card that also has an hdtv tuner?  all i have available on my small form factor box is an agp slot right now..
[03:25] <torpid> the pci slot is taken up by a sound card.
[03:26] <Boohbah> torpid: only one pci slot and no onboard sound?
[03:27] <ThomasWinwood> It's form factor.
[03:27] <ThomasWinwood> Form factor typically has very few slots.
[03:27] <mindspore> how can i make it so that thumbnails are not generated for video files?
[03:27] <ThomasWinwood> And they don't always have onboard everything.
[03:27] <toresbe> They should :P
[03:28] <ThomasWinwood> It helps.  I can't take dvorak much longer
[03:30] <toresbe> It's torture in the beginning
[03:30] <torpid> it has onboard sound.
[03:30] <torpid> Boohbah
[03:30] <torpid> but for professional recording, i am using a 4-input 24-bit 96-khz sound card.
[03:30] <toresbe> ah
[03:30] <torpid> it also has on-board video, but i want good quality
[03:31] <matara> rme is good quality works fine under linux
[03:32] <matara> at st the pci cards
[03:32] <ermanox> ?
[03:33] <ermanox> ?quit
[03:34] <darmou> I'm getting a lot of "return outside function" when trying to install zope2.7 has anyone had this problem and been able to fix it?
[03:35] <darmou> It unpacks in installes but then stuffs up when it tries to complile the python.
[03:36] <matara> jesus updating iinternet explorer  36 updates
[03:36] <matara> witin ubunto
[03:37] <dholmes> Can I download and install i386 packages and run then on AMD64 ubuntu?
[03:37] <toresbe> no
[03:37] <DmD> grr..i'm trying to send a file to someone with xchat but i've already opened the ports on my router and it says :  Closing Upload Connection: Upload Connection Timed Out
[03:37] <Nalioth> i just absolutely love ubuntu
[03:38] <toresbe> Nalioth: Me too :)
[03:38] <Nalioth> just plugged my firewire dvd burner into my iBook, and am burning with no problems
[03:38] <DmD> anyone know what's up with that?
[03:38] <torpid> i love ubuntu as well
[03:38] <torpid> i just decided that i'm not even going to put windows on my new system that i'm using as a home recording studio
[03:38] <darmou> Do I need to remove zope2.7 and try reinstalling it, what should I do to fix this broken package?
[03:38] <matara> maybe try again
[03:39] <ThomasWinwood> DmD: You're using a bad extension to an old protocol to send a file. Upload it to a server and link them.
[03:39] <torpid> i have all the tools i need on ubuntu
[03:39] <DmD> DCC Send Accepted, Connecting...  then it says it timed out
[03:39] <DmD> hmm
[03:39] <ThomasWinwood> IRC was never intended as anything more than a glorified realtime forum.
[03:39] <DmD> and i opened the ports in xchat under preferences
[03:39] <matara> ah maybe the otherparty has some type of ignore on
[03:39] <ThomasWinwood> Filesharing is not to be done by it.
[03:40] <DmD> it's a dcc bot
[03:40] <Nalioth> for all you folks in here sittin on the fence, i've been using linux for 5+ years and this is easily the most user friendly out-of-the-box distro i've encountered
[03:40] <DmD> so maybe it doesn't recongize my host
[03:40] <DmD> marble2
[03:40] <DmD> you are from minnesota?
[03:40] <sig> anyone using xirssi?
[03:40] <George__> hey, need help
[03:40] <George__> i get random freeze when trying to play games
[03:41] <mindspore> i'm from Bumfuk, Idaho
[03:41] <sig> mindspore: me too
[03:41] <sig> lol
[03:41] <George__> i install nvidia driver, searched forum, and i couldn't figure it out. So i come here. Can anyone help?
[03:41] <Burgundavia> George__, what sort of games
[03:41] <bob2> code of conduct, people
[03:41] <Nalioth> mindspore, sig, really? i've driven thru there
[03:41] <mindspore> sig: we should hit the bars sometime.. they're pretty good here, eh?
[03:41] <George__> Americas Army and WOLF ET
[03:41] <sig> where are you at mindspore
[03:41] <mindspore> I lied.. i'm actually from Bumfuk, Nebraska, lol
[03:42] <sig> hahaha
[03:42] <toresbe> George__: The machine or the program?
[03:42] <George__> i don't know
[03:42] <George__> i run wolf et, and it freeze
[03:42] <George__> SOUND is gone, i cant move mouse
[03:42] <bob2> mindspore: please?
[03:42] <George__> same with Americas Army
[03:42] <amaro> anyone here tried installing Kexi? dpkg gives me errors because some of the library names are exactly the same versions.. but, the libraries have the name ubuntu in them, and it kinda doesnt know that they are exactly the same?
[03:42] <mindspore> bo2:: huh?
[03:42] <mindspore> bob2**
[03:43] <toresbe> Hmm. Overheating, perhaps?
[03:43] <bob2> amaro: two packages can't include the same file and be installed at the same time
[03:43] <bob2> amaro: one of them is buggy
[03:43] <ThomasWinwood> Exist-p a rational, balanced comparison of GNOME vs KDE?
[03:43] <George__> No  way
[03:43] <George__> I got good air flow, 8 Plus fans.
[03:43] <George__> didn't overclock
[03:43] <toresbe> wow, impressivep
[03:43] <amaro> bob2, hmmm...
[03:43] <toresbe> .>
[03:43] <George__> i sell computers
[03:43] <amaro>  kexi depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21); however:  Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13.
[03:44] <amaro> errors like this ^^^^
[03:44] <bob2> amaro: so, your "kexi" package isn't from ubuntu
[03:44] <amaro> no
[03:44] <George__> So, any IDEA y it keep being pain in the arse?
[03:44] <XplOzIon> hi
[03:44] <amaro> it isn't
[03:44] <bob2> amaro: it won't work then
[03:44] <amaro> it's for debian
[03:44] <bob2> yes
[03:44] <amaro> so I can't install it?
[03:44] <bob2> correct
[03:45] <toresbe> ahhhh'
[03:45] <toresbe> back on qwerty
[03:45] <amaro> ohhhh :(
[03:45] <toresbe> Man, that feels good
[03:45] <XplOzIon> anyone has installed ETF mod for ET?
[03:45] <flodine> can i play AA with this fps ....12798 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2559.600 FPS
[03:45] <toresbe> George__: Okay, well, what screen card and driver?
[03:45] <toresbe> flodine: Hehe, well, glxgears isn't really a good benchmark anymore
[03:45] <ThomasWinwood> Is there a rational, balanced comparison of GNOME vs KDE? I'm wondering whether it's worth installing KDE.
[03:46] <flodine> ok
[03:46] <flodine> so how do i test it
[03:46] <jp> ThomasWinwoo go to #kubuntu .
[03:46] <George__> I have a IT4200-8X flash bios
[03:46] <bob2> ThomasWinwood: no, there isn't, it's purely a "which do you personally prefer?" question
[03:46] <toresbe> flodine: It used to be when the sort of machines I use were state of the art ;)
[03:46] <George__> I quit Mandriva cuz it's shit
[03:46] <hyphenated> ThomasWinwood: there's plenty of reviews out there, but effectively all of them will be as "fair and balanced" as FOX News
[03:46] <George__> but AA worked fine.
[03:46] <toresbe> George__: That's the spirit :P
[03:46] <XplOzIon> George__, how come?
[03:46] <George__> I AM USING TI4200-8X flashed the bios to TI4800
[03:46] <George__> Using Latest NVIDIA driver
[03:46] <ThomasWinwood> Gawd, I'm tripping into holy-war territory, aren't I?
[03:46] <toresbe> gusbee: hmm.
[03:47] <George__> Xplo: cuz they become company and i paid for le and it sucked
[03:47] <toresbe> ThomasWinwood: most definately :)
[03:47] <bob2> ThomasWinwood: no
[03:47] <hyphenated> ThomasWinwood: kinda, but really, it comes down to which one _you_ like the most
[03:47] <Burgundavia> ThomasWinwood, mostly it is what works for you. I happen to like GNOME. I know many that swear by KDE
[03:47] <digitalfox|afk> ThomasWinwood, it'd be holy war territory if you said that in Mandriva :p
[03:47] <George__> KDE is a peice of GARBAGE
[03:47] <hyphenated> I prefer KDE and use kubuntu instead of ubuntu
[03:47] <George__> Like freaken WINDOWS
[03:47] <bob2> George__: please stop it
[03:47] <daniels> George__: dude, watch it.
[03:47] <Burgundavia> George__, please remember the CoC
[03:47] <XplOzIon> Question: Is there any way to extrac files in a *.run file?
[03:47] <dr_willis> gotta love totally useless oponions. :P
[03:47] <hyphenated> but that's my choice and opinion, not anyone elses
[03:47] <toresbe> ThomasWinwood: In my opinion, GNOME has caught up with, and surpassed KDE, though KDE has not gotten better, just bigger. It was useable before
[03:47] <George__> Any IDeas?
[03:48] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  totallyt depends on whats in the .run file
[03:48] <George__> What u think i can try?
[03:48] <Crane> Hi, hello , and hiya
[03:48] <toresbe> George__: Update your nVidia drivers, perhaps?
[03:48] <daniels> George__: it's probably an upstream bug in the nvidia drivers
[03:48] <toresbe> Crane: Hey, hi, hello
[03:48] <daniels> toresbe: the ones in hoary are the latest release from nvidia
[03:48] <George__> I said, it's the latest.
[03:48] <toresbe> daniels: hmm, okay
[03:48] <Crane> :)
[03:48] <toresbe> George__: sorry, didn't see that
[03:48] <George__> np man, how do i fix?
[03:49] <daniels> George__: you can't
[03:49] <XplOzIon> dr_willis, well the run file supposed to extrac some files to the lib folder and others to the games folder
[03:49] <daniels> you wait for nvidia to release a fixed driver
[03:49] <toresbe> ThomasWinwood: It follows a sort of ICQ-trail
[03:49] <George__> AH FOOK, NO GAMES!!!
[03:49] <dr_willis> XplOzIon,  and theres proberly a dozen ways it can do that. :P fire it up with an editor and look at it,.
[03:49] <occy> w00p
[03:49] <George__> U SURE?
[03:49] <occy> http://occy.net/printing
[03:49] <George__> how about using ATI?
[03:49] <toresbe> ThomasWinwood: earliest versions were early, later versions were useable, and then later ones were just horribly ugly and bloated
[03:49] <George__> i got the NEW 512 ATI X800 :D
[03:49] <XplOzIon> dr_willis, 300Mb file with text editor?
[03:49] <toresbe> George__: should work if you have an ATI card handy
[03:49] <occy> check it out boys(and girls) if you want to Share a printer.
[03:49] <toresbe> George__: neat.
[03:50] <Crane> problem with a game?
[03:50] <George__> yeah, switch to my other machine. Sadly it's a freaken P4
[03:50] <George__> Yes
[03:50] <George__> 2 games: AA and Wolf Et
[03:50] <XplOzIon> im having problem installing ETF mod for enemy-territory :(
[03:50] <hybrid_goth> what is the command to rename a file
[03:50] <George__> Both of them when trying to connect, i freeze, when in i get no sound, and it freezez
[03:50] <George__> right click on file and rename?
[03:51] <Crane> did you install them as a user or root? (su)
[03:51] <George__> me?
[03:51] <George__> su
[03:51] <George__> then
[03:51] <George__> cd /home/steven
[03:51] <hybrid_goth> through the command line macs dont have right clicks
[03:51] <George__> sh army.run
[03:51] <George__> sh wolfet.run
[03:51] <XplOzIon> Why this? /home/xplozion/.setup12151: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:51] <hyphenated> hybrid_goth: you "move" a file to a new name, rather than renaming it
[03:51] <George__> Xplo Google it?
[03:51] <XplOzIon> George__, already did
[03:52] <hybrid_goth> hyphenated: ok ty
[03:52] <Crane> so you were root? su <---you enabled root account
[03:52] <sbcl3> how do you extract a tar.gz?
[03:52] <XplOzIon> George__, cant find anything like my problem
[03:52] <dr_willis> tar xzvf foo.tar.gz
[03:52] <^thehatsrule^> sbcl3, tar zxvf
[03:52] <chavo> XplOzIon, you need to install gtk-1.2
[03:52] <bob2> XplOzIon: install the libgtk1.2 package
[03:53] <XplOzIon> bob2, is that so? so its like this: sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2
[03:53] <Crane> so did you run the as root (sudo) or user?
[03:53] <bob2> XplOzIon: how ever you normally install packages
[03:53] <bob2> that will work, tho
[03:53] <XplOzIon> bob2, thanks
[03:53] <XplOzIon> i thoug i already had it
[03:53] <ThomasWinwood> I'm going to install KDE now.  If not, I stick with GNOME.
[03:54] <DmD> can i try to send someone a file on xchat?  i wanna see if it works now..
[03:54] <XplOzIon> DmD, suree go ahead
[03:54] <DmD> alrighy ty
[03:55] <DmD> did you get anything yet?
[03:55] <XplOzIon> yup screen dialog
[03:55] <Crane> I got a cold
[03:55] <Crane> tlol
[03:55] <XplOzIon> DmD, not sending anything tho
[03:55] <matara> go ahead send me
[03:55] <DmD> really
[03:55] <revelater> anyone here know how to make gkrellm2 transparent?
[03:55] <DmD> wtf
[03:55] <DmD> i have my ports opened
[03:56] <XplOzIon> :/
[03:56] <DmD> what else could be wrong w/ it?
[03:56] <XplOzIon> DmD, port 3001
[03:57] <DmD> you think maybe i need to restart?
[03:58] <nate_> howdy folks
[03:58] <DmD> DCC SEND Crossfade-Crossfade-2004.tar.gz to XplOzIon timed out - aborting.
[03:58] <DmD> damnit
[03:58] <XplOzIon> DmD, dont know, are you using a firewall? firestarter?
[03:58] <DmD> not a firewall
[03:58] <DmD> i never configured one on Linux
[03:58] <DmD> i'm behind a router
[03:58] <nate_> iptables = firewall
[03:58] <DmD> and i configured my ports though
[03:58] <XplOzIon> i see
[03:58] <DmD> hmm
[03:59] <nate_> hmmm, i want to do something interesting now....
[03:59] <XplOzIon> nate_, and what would that be?
[03:59] <XplOzIon> DmD, let me try to send you something
[03:59] <nate_> XplOzIon: no idea, I think i'm gonna work on a website
[04:00] <DmD> alright, thanks
[04:00] <XplOzIon> nate_, oh you mean a design?
[04:00] <XplOzIon> nate_, or something like that? php code?
[04:00] <nate_> XplOzIon: no, already designed, I just need the information to fill it up.
[04:00] <XplOzIon> nate_, oh hehe ok
[04:00] <nate_> XplOzIon: oh, I need to code in a music player, but thats pretty easy
[04:00] <mindspore> how do I kill "uninterruptable" processes?
[04:00] <nate_> XplOzIon: and thats for another day
[04:01] <XplOzIon> bob2, hey thanks, now it works
[04:02] <XplOzIon> is there any seen script here?
[04:03] <DmD> hey Q
[04:05] <bob2> X7C: no
[04:05] <bob2> bah
[04:05] <X7C> what?
[04:06] <George__> IS there a wAy to get GAMES to work in UBUNtu?
[04:06] <Nalioth> howdy, thegreedyturtle how is it going?
[04:06] <hybrid_goth> George: what kid of games
[04:06] <bob2> George__: please try to spell correctly
[04:06] <mindspore> George__, that's a bit vague
[04:07] <Nalioth> George__, is your keyboard healthy?
[04:07] <bob2> George__: there are lots of games available
[04:07] <George__> Americas Army, and Wolf ET................
[04:07] <bob2> George__: do you mean "Is there a way to run windows games on Ubuntu?"?
[04:07] <George__> Most of my games are ISO, Bin and CUe because i dont waste money buying
[04:07] <mindspore> George__, check Cedega
[04:07] <George__> No Bob2. Cedega
[04:07] <George__> i know!
[04:07] <bob2> oh god
[04:07] <hybrid_goth> lol
[04:07] <George__> wolf et linux, americas army linux
[04:07] <bob2> this is not a support channel for you to play games you've ripped off the internet
[04:07] <George__> duh..
[04:07] <paxmaster> there is Wolf ET for linux
[04:07] <George__> yeah and AA for Linux
[04:08] <bob2> if yo have problems with winex, go to #cedega
[04:08] <bob2> presumably you at least paid for that
[04:08] <George__> i never did
[04:08] <George__> no
[04:08] <bob2> oh, good on you
[04:08] <hybrid_goth> heh
[04:08] <mindspore> ll
[04:08] <hybrid_goth> bob2: where can i get some of those gnu warez?
[04:08] <hybrid_goth> rofl
[04:08] <George__> So is this Xorgconfig that's screwing me up?
[04:08] <mindspore> hehe
[04:08] <George__> i work for HOODLUM, and MYTHCREW
[04:08] <stuNNed> bob2: hi, is there way to get mp3 support in Sound Juicer?
[04:09] <hybrid_goth> who?
[04:09] <mindspore> George__, I doubt that very much
[04:09] <bob2> stuNNed: find the gstreamer lame plugin
[04:09] <paxmaster> how could i run application in the command line as root
[04:09] <George__> YEAH i dl most of their games, and help winrar em
[04:09] <bob2> George__: final warning
[04:09] <hybrid_goth> bob2: no warez ? :'( :P
[04:09] <stuNNed> bob2: ok thanks, i'd rather use ogg or flac by my portable doesn't support it
[04:09] <bob2> paxmaster: sudo applicationame
[04:09] <George__> He dont tell me
[04:09] <George__> JEEE
[04:09] <mindspore> George__, what exactly is your problem?
[04:09] <bob2> stuNNed: I'm not sure if it's available anywhere anymore, but it used to be in marillat's repository
[04:10] <hybrid_goth> stuNNed: ogg rules
[04:10] <paxmaster> ok
[04:10] <darkaudit> time for the Stark Fist of Removal...
[04:10] <George__> AA AND WOLF ET KEEP FREEZING. i connect to server, it freeze. No sound, and No mouse, and No keyboard
[04:10] <hybrid_goth> whats stark fist
[04:10] <darkaudit> those with slack know :)
[04:10] <stuNNed> bob2: 'gstreamer0.8-lame is already the newest version.' <-is this the one you're talking about?
[04:11] <Nalioth> hybrid_goth, come on your remember the comic book that never was "Stark Fist of Removal" ??!!
[04:11] <mindspore> George__, the game starts up at first?
[04:11] <bob2> stuNNed: yeah
[04:11] <George__> Yeah
[04:11] <hybrid_goth> George__ : wow it takes your keyboard and mouse awesome can you get it back or does it keep them permantly
[04:11] <George__> when connecting
[04:11] <hybrid_goth> ahhah
[04:11] <George__> what?  hybrid?
[04:11] <mindspore> graphics drivers up to date?
[04:11] <hybrid_goth> no b4 my time
[04:11] <George__> yes
[04:11] <George__> just updated them today :D
[04:11] <Nalioth> heh, think bob2 will be using a rolled up copy here purty quick
[04:11] <hybrid_goth> George__ : you said it took you keyboard and mouse so do you have to buy new ones everytime that happens
[04:12] <George__> hybrid_goth, stop fukin around?
[04:12] <stuNNed> bob2: what is 'hoary-extras' repo?
[04:12] <mindspore> lol
[04:12] <bob2> come on, this is an english-speaking channel, not a leet-speak one
[04:12] <hybrid_goth> George__ : yes master ubergeek sir
[04:12] <George__> lol
[04:12] <hybrid_goth> hahaha
[04:12] <bob2> seriously
[04:12] <George__> THis is NVIDIA Fault?
[04:12] <George__> bob2 losen up?
[04:12] <bob2> George__: Fix your keyboard.
[04:12] <mindspore> wh4t, l337 i5 4acc3pt4b|3 sp33ch
[04:13] <bob2> George__: you're being highly annoying
[04:13] <George__> BS
[04:13] <bob2> and your terrible typing is but one part of that
[04:13] <George__> ahhahahhaha, k k
[04:13] <hybrid_goth> minspore: heh
[04:13] <George__> game freezing happening to anyone else?
[04:13] <hybrid_goth> mindspore: talk about *headache*
[04:14] <mindspore> nope George: you must've downloaded a corrupt copy
[04:14] <George__> K found problem
[04:14] <George__> It's something to do with the driver.
[04:14] <darkaudit> PEBKAC...
[04:14] <stuNNed> bob2: does a 'hoary-extras' repo exist?
[04:14] <hybrid_goth> George__ : drivers are in restricted
[04:14] <George__> I have a Slackware machine, with older driver, and aa work fine (using same 1 i did on ubuntu). wow
[04:14] <darkaudit> stuNNed: in backports, I believe
[04:14] <hybrid_goth> darkaudit: roflmfao
[04:14] <George__> how do i get older driveR?
[04:15] <stuNNed> darkaudit: ah, backports ok
[04:15] <bob2> stuNNed: not that I know of
[04:15] <Nalioth> i want one of those keyboards
[04:15] <bob2> gah, please don't use backports
[04:15] <hybrid_goth> lol
[04:15] <stuNNed> bob2: ok
[04:15] <daniels> George__: note 'with older driver'
[04:15] <stuNNed> thanks guys
[04:15] <nate_> i compete using nvidia's drivers, so, they work
[04:15] <Nalioth> the 0nes wiTh thE unstAble foNts
[04:15] <daniels> George__: that means exactly what we've been telling you for a while -- it's a problem in the nvidia drivers that you'll have to wait for them to fix
[04:16] <George__> WAA, i can't get older 1?
[04:16] <daniels> nate_: doesn't mean they work in every situation with every combination of hardware
[04:16] <daniels> George__: you can download them yourself from nvidia.com
[04:16] <George__> that will HELp Me
[04:16] <George__> y not
[04:16] <darkaudit> George__: you'll probably break far mor than you'll fix
[04:16] <nate_> daniels: awwww, they should! ;)
[04:16] <darkaudit> s/mor/more
[04:16] <George__> break?
[04:16] <darkaudit> as in stuff not working anymore
[04:16] <George__> dont try this?
[04:17] <George__> so just wait?
[04:17] <daniels> George__: i don't know if you know how hard maintaining this sort of thing is (i suspect not), but providing one version is hard enough, let alone multiple versions, which is more or less impossible
[04:17] <drcode> hi all
[04:17] <daniels> in any case, it's off-topic for #ubuntu.  try asking in #nvidia.
[04:17] <George__> yeah k, DANIELS damn SORRY
[04:17] <drcode> can I connect my X server like I do in cygwin xwin but in linux?
[04:17] <drcode> I Did ssh -X
[04:17] <drcode> what I need to do next?
[04:18] <Nalioth> maybe a run on "Stark Fist of Removal", heh heh
[04:18] <bob2> iron fist, more like it
[04:19] <Nalioth> bob2, its your fist, you can describe it best
[04:19] <darmou> does anyone know how to take apart a deb package and put it back together again?
[04:19] <[RR] Sean> i think you can make debian packages with alien
[04:19] <darkaudit> darmou: what do you hope to achieve by this?
[04:20] <darmou> I want to alter the postinst script so I can install zope2.7
[04:20] <bob2> you don't need to repack it then
[04:20] <bob2> just edit them from /var/lib/dpkg/info/ and run 'dpkg --configure zopewhatever'
[04:21] <stuNNed> bob2: should i run gst-register-0.8 as root or normal user?  i think as root no?
[04:22] <mr_roboto> away
[04:22] <bob2> I don't know
[04:22] <Marble2> how can I refresh my network interfaces?
[04:22] <Marble2> I just had a power outage and my internet won't work
[04:22] <andrewski> Marble2: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:22] <stuNNed> bob2: yep as root i think they said in #gstreamer at onepoint
[04:23] <Marble2> thanks
[04:23] <andrewski> i'm on linux (using samba); my roommate is on windows.  is there any way for him to 'sync' my shared folder on his computer?
[04:24] <andrewski> Marble2: my router's flaky; i run that command a few times a week. :P
[04:24] <bob2> mr_roboto_AWAY: please turn that off
[04:24] <darmou> thanks that did the trick
[04:24] <andrewski> mr_roboto_AWAY: don't send annoying messages like that. O_o
[04:24] <Marble2> thanks andrewski
[04:24] <Marble2> that worked
[04:24] <stuNNed> mr_roboto: hahahaha
[04:24] <bob2> andrewski: you could use rsync
[04:24] <mr_roboto> sorry, trying to figure out this irc client
[04:24] <bob2> andrewski: but you don't need samba for that
[04:25] <andrewski> bob2: he wants to sync, not i.
[04:25] <bob2> rsync runs on windows
[04:25] <bob2> as well as anything runs on windows
[04:25] <andrewski> bob2: ah... of course. :)
[04:25] <andrewski> bob2: ok, i'll check it out.
[04:25] <andrewski> bob2: as usual, thanks.  [tips metaphorical hat]
[04:25] <bob2> darkaudit: can you turn that off please?
[04:25] <bob2> andrewski: np
[04:26] <darkaudit> 'k
[04:29] <mythtv> is anyone familar with following error
[04:29] <mythtv> Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authenti cation protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[04:31] <regeya> doopity doo
[04:32] <regeya> interesting.
[04:32] <regeya> beagle either doesn't index or refuses to display results on hidden folders.
[04:32] <stuNNed> bob2: is marillat's repo still necessary for some things in hoary?
[04:33] <bob2> stuNNed: depends how you define neccessary
[04:33] <stuNNed> regeya: beagle here doesn't index some logfiles when it indexes others of the exact same name in another dir
[04:33] <stuNNed> bob2: i mean like still active
[04:33] <regeya> hm.
[04:33] <bob2> it still exists
[04:33] <stuNNed> ok muchas gracias
[04:34] <mythtv> this seems to happen when I start the backend for mythtv if anyone is familar
[04:34] <user_>  RX packets:1202 errors:432 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:728 <- what this mean?
[04:35] <stuNNed> bob2: on the wiki they are saying use 'hoary-extras' from backports for restricted formats...
[04:35] <Burgundavia> stuNNed, either is crack
[04:35] <Burgundavia> but at the hoary-extras is Ubuntu crack
[04:35] <bob2> stuNNed: lots of crazy people put things on the wiki
[04:35] <bob2> stuNNed: what page is this?
[04:36] <Burgundavia> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:36] <Burgundavia> now mentions the hoary-extras
[04:36] <Burgundavia> rather than marilliat
[04:36] <stuNNed> bob2: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats crazyness
[04:37] <user_>  RX packets:1202 errors:432 <- what this mean? dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:728
[04:37] <tritium> some people have mistaken hoary-extras (and backports in general) as official repositories
[04:38] <stuNNed> would rather use marrilat than hoary-extras, no?
[04:38] <Burgundavia> I have found the edit but not the person who made it
[04:38] <bob2> yeah, zwiki is rather shit in that regard
[04:38] <Burgundavia> stuNNed, if I were to chose my crack, I would use the hoary-extras, as they have been built for hoary
[04:39] <metalsand> Bob2: I recently installed the hostap drivers for my Prism 2 wireless NIC (PCMCIA card)
[04:39] <guruff> what's up :)
[04:39] <Burgundavia> I want history like this --> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=history
[04:39] <metalsand> and when I restarted my card was gone from the network setings GUI and iwconfig
[04:39] <metalsand> What do you recommend I do?
[04:40] <svitlana> ...
[04:40] <torpid> intel extreme graphics 2, my onboard graphics, is pretty lame right?
[04:40] <metalsand> torpid, I have that and it sucks :/
[04:41] <torpid> heh heh
[04:41] <torpid> gotcha
[04:41] <metalsand> I think the latest hardware support is DX7.0
[04:41] <metalsand> Can't even load HL2/CS:S
[04:41] <metalsand> Even with 512 megs of RAM and a 1.6 Centrino
[04:41] <torpid> is there any agp graphics card i can get (that works in linux) that has hdtv tuner?
[04:41] <stuNNed> Burgundavia: and that is mediawiki's history engine :D
[04:41] <sir-gold> metalsand how did you install hostap?
[04:41] <stuNNed> Burgundavia: ok, i'll go with the better crack
[04:42] <Burgundavia> stuNNed, if only mediawiki were python
[04:42] <metalsand> sir-gold: a .deb
[04:42] <Burgundavia> stuNNed, if it were, it would be great. Actively developed, and actively supported (as one of the nets biggest sites runs on it)
[04:42] <metalsand> Extracted, make install...
[04:42] <bob2> or if wiki.u.c used moin
[04:42] <metalsand> Modprobe detects know errors for the hostap drivers
[04:43] <stuNNed> Burgundavia: why does it have to be python?
[04:43] <Burgundavia> bob2, mediawiki still kicks the crap out of any other wiki engine
[04:43] <metalsand> I've LITERALLY been trying to get this configured for 4 days, and about 10 full hours devoted
[04:43] <sir-gold> metalsand i did the same thing without problems, this is the instructions i used (ignore the part about firmware): http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DLinkDWL520E1
[04:43] <sir-gold> i have a netgear ma401
[04:44] <metalsand> For which card?
[04:44] <metalsand> Ah.
[04:44] <metalsand> Prism chipset?
[04:44] <sir-gold> yes
[04:44] <stuNNed> hell, even ximian uses mediawiki
[04:44] <sir-gold> i did it to get kismet to work
[04:44] <Burgundavia> however, mediawiki is PHP
[04:44] <Burgundavia> and PHP is somewhat evil, security wise
[04:44] <mike998> akota/q
[04:45] <metalsand> Ah... All I want is to get my card configured with kismet
[04:45] <stuNNed> Burgundavia: there is hardenedphp patch...http://www.hardened-php.net/
[04:45] <sir-gold> the only problem with the instructions is that you have to do it again every time you replace the kernel
[04:46] <sir-gold> oh, and just a hint, once you get host installed, you have to run 'ifconfig wlan0 up' before kismet will load all the way
[04:46] <sir-gold> hostap
[04:46] <sir-gold> took me an hour to figure that out
[04:46] <jordanau> my clock is not auto updating from the time servers, how do i make it do it automatically?
[04:46] <mebaran151> anyone here know ruby
[04:46] <mebaran151> out 487 people
[04:47] <mebaran151> it has to be true
[04:47] <sir-gold> i think 480 of them are bots
[04:47] <mebaran151> haha
[04:47] <tritium> just idlers
[04:47] <goldfish_> lol
[04:47] <goldfish_> screened in prolly
[04:47] <goldfish_> or idle
[04:47] <goldfish_> well or both
[04:49] <metalsand> sir-gold
[04:49] <metalsand> I haven't done that lol
[04:49] <metalsand> and I've been trying to get it to work sicne I installed hostap for like 2 hours
[04:49] <mebaran151> http://rafb.net/paste/results/XRyk8Q51.html
[04:49] <metalsand> sir-gold: How often do new kernels come out?
[04:50] <sir-gold> no idea, i installed kubuntu a few days ago
[04:50] <tritium> metalsand, after a release, only when there are security updates, so not too often
[04:50] <sir-gold> sarge has a newer kernel version, so i imagine there will be a new one in ubuntu soon
[04:50] <alexw> can somebody tell me how to install enlightenment e17 through apt-get
[04:51] <tritium> alexw, only e16 is in the repositories
[04:52] <alexw> how do i search the repositories
[04:52] <tritium> alexw, e.g., apt-cache search enlightenment
[04:52] <alexw> k
[04:52] <metalsand> Synaptic, alexw
[04:52] <alexw> i tried synaptic
[04:52] <metalsand> Text is better, I guess
[04:52] <alexw> it only shows e16
[04:52] <amaro> I found the most awesome wallpaper
[04:53] <amaro> :D
[04:53] <stuNNed> amaro: plz share
[04:53] <amaro> it's tokyo city at night
[04:53] <amaro> are you into that?
[04:53] <stuNNed> amaro: dunno til i see it
[04:53] <stuNNed> amaro: is there url for it?
[04:54] <amaro> http://kitoutpost.com/wallpapers_page/calendar/tts_2002/july2002_1280_non.jpg
[04:54] <amaro> yeah
[04:54] <amaro> I removed the text with GIMP... and I love it
[04:56] <torpid> does anyone know of a linux supported agp card with an hdtv tuner on it?
[04:56] <torpid> with a dvi output?
[04:56] <Nalioth> amaro, quite striking
[04:57] <amaro> Nalioth, yeah, very.. and it's so clear and sharp
[04:57] <Nalioth> amaro, i like distinctive wallies
[04:58] <mebaran151> l non-recoginized methods to an internal array?
[04:58] <DmD> hey, i'm trying to install a plugin for xchat and it's in a .tar.gz...how would i install it?
[04:58] <mebaran151> sorry
[04:58] <mebaran151> whoops wrong place
[04:59] <torpid> tar xvf blah.tar.gz i think..
[04:59] <torpid> something like that
[04:59] <locdog> hello all
[04:59] <Nalioth> howdy locdog
[04:59] <dr_willis> Hmm
[05:00] <dr_willis> tar xzvf foo.tar.gz
[05:00] <^thehatsrule^> x for extract :P
[05:00] <dr_willis> torpid,  and the only video cards with tv tuners ive seen allready on them  are the ati all in wonders.. but i would not reccomend them for linux.
[05:00] <amaro> I always get mixed up by j and z for gz and bz2
[05:00] <dr_willis> v for verbose
[05:01] <DmD> alright i got the dir on my destko
[05:01] <DmD> desktop even
[05:01] <dr_willis> f for file :P
[05:01] <DmD> then in the readme it says
[05:01] <tritium> torpid, I've only seen pci, such as this: http://www.pchdtv.com/
[05:01] <mindspore> how do I kill an "uninterruptable" process?
[05:01] <DmD> Place the away.conf and hideaway.conf files in the .xchat directory in
[05:01] <DmD>         your home directory or wherever xchat keeps it's data files. Edit them
[05:01] <DmD>         to your liking.
[05:01] <DmD> it's an away perl script..
[05:01] <sysrq> DmD: this really isn't ubuntu related, perhaps you should be asking in xchat's channel
[05:01] <DmD> alright, sorry ;p
[05:02] <dr_willis> its saying copy the files over. :P how hard is that. lol
[05:02] <torpid> i don't have another pci slot
[05:02] <dr_willis> it /home/username/.xchat2 by the way
[05:02] <mindspore> how do I kill an "uninterruptable" process?
[05:02] <dr_willis> and away scripts are very ANNYOING  :P  i suggest ya dont bother with it.
[05:03] <user_> dd
[05:03] <goldfish_> they are indeed
[05:03] <locdog> how do I install limewire?
[05:03] <locdog> on ubuntu..
[05:03] <mindspore> locdog: ubuntuguide.org
[05:03] <goldfish_> wont annoyes me is the changing of a nick with BRB at the end
[05:03] <mebaran151> locdog, for shame
[05:03] <amaro> "computer, install limewire"
[05:03] <goldfish_> *what
[05:03] <dr_willis> limewire uses the java runtimes - so that needs to be installed.
[05:04] <dr_willis> http://ubuntuguide.org/  for a start.
[05:04] <locdog> there are no rpm's for ubunyu?  I am a mandrake user,
[05:04] <locdog> new to gnome from kde
[05:04] <dr_willis> get java going. then go to the limewire homepage and get its installers.
[05:04] <hyphenated> locdog: ubuntu is based on debian, so it uses .deb's instead of .rpm's
[05:04] <amaro> locdog, no, you will find .deb's
[05:04] <goldfish_> locdog: ubuntu uses .deb files
[05:04] <amaro> not .rpm's
[05:04] <locdog> unbuntu sorry
[05:04] <thechitowncubs> Is the backport repo down?
[05:04] <goldfish_> you can convert .rpm's to .deb using alien
[05:04] <mindspore> you can convert rpms to deb with alien
[05:05] <goldfish_> hehe
[05:05] <amaro> and to install .deb's all you have to do is type:        dpkg -i thefilename.deb
[05:05] <mindspore> goldfish_, jinx, lol