[03:46] <sancho21> What is the meaning of status named: "Fix released"? Where is the fixed package available to download?
[03:46] <drumstyk1> NewHelpr: no, im not sure how to do that
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> yokobr: install these http://pastebin.com/m27381e05
[03:46] <ryt> d
[03:46] <minimec> sarixe: WOuld be something like 'auto ath0', 'iface ath0 inet dhcp'
[03:46] <sarixe> alright cool
[03:46] <PoisonArrow> Can anyone help me with creating a new bootable cd after ripping the contents of a bootable cd?
[03:46] <Pelo> sancho21, if this is regarding intrepid ibex packages ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: its known to cause issues if you have extra characters in there
[03:46] <airtonix> balz, i take it you want to access your myth setup externally ?
[03:46] <ryt> hey can anyone tell me how to put an iso onto a blank dvd in ubuntu?
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/71028
[03:47] <balz> airtonix:  that sounds like what I need.  Would i have to configure the client to use dyndns.org for this to work?  or does dyndns just host a domain name?
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> !burning | ryt
[03:47] <Pelo> PoisonArrow, you should make an image of the original cd and burn that instead of ripping
[03:47] <balz> airtonix:  yes, that's correct.  It's a mythweb setup, so i was hoping to set programs to record while i'm on vaccation
[03:47] <kidbuntu> ActionParnsip: how will i know that wherein i never make changes to this
[03:47] <airtonix> balz, ill get some pages that explain it in more depth...brb
[03:47] <Pelo> ryt, use brassero , in the sound /video menu
[03:47] <NewHelpr> drumstick you need to know the local ip of each machine and execute from linux terminal the command : ping <ipofthemachineyouwantoping>
[03:48] <balz> airtonix:  that would be awesome. thank you
[03:48] <EvilTchnlgy_> i know this may seem simple, but will using my new ubuntu server as a dhcp server coexist well with my active directory server that also acts as a dhcp server but the latter would be lower down on the tree
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: check you dont have any weird characters floating round and make sure there is a carridge return on the last line
[03:48] <EvilTchnlgy_> e.g. ubuntu dhcp distributing tot he AD server
[03:48] <PoisonArrow> Pelo, well I had to mount the cd, copy its contents into a directory, so I could add a few files to it, then recreate it. But it wasnt that easy, I create the .iso again, but its not bootable
[03:48] <EvilTchnlgy_> *to there
[03:48] <EvilTchnlgy_> *to the
[03:48] <EvilTchnlgy_> woops
[03:48] <PoisonArrow> Pelo, I have all the files i need to create it, but Not sure how to ;/
[03:48] <NewHelpr> drumstick I think the problem is just that your llinuxbox does not see the other machines or is not connected properly on the network
[03:49] <Pelo> PoisonArrow, not sure how to help you then , sorry
[03:49] <fr500> hi
[03:49] <kidbuntu> ActionParsnip: everything is clean on the last line.. i just only did an update and then poof there it goes.. segmentation and synpatic wont start or anything even update manager
[03:49] <fr500> is there an apt command to remove old unused kernels?
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> PoisonArrow: thats because all you have is a data cd thats not bootable, you need to make an iso of the new data then write a boot sector to the iso then burn THAT
[03:49] <gluonman_> I deleted the old version of the linux-headers and held onto my latest version attempting to save space. Unfortunately, my madwifi driver that supports my wireless card went with the old headers, and in trying to reinstall madwifi, I'm having problems making and make installing. I think there's something wrong with my headers. How can I restore my headers to all default settings?
[03:49] <generic> Does anyone know how to install drivers for wireless cards?
[03:49] <sancho21> Pelo: That's related to version 8.04
[03:49] <yokobr> ActionParsnip, it says that its already installed. But i think thats someting missing on "alsa-utils" ,cause it says to install a "curses" lib.
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: ok so what happens if you sudo apt-get update
[03:50] <Pelo> sancho21, this is a fix-release of what exactly ?
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> yokobr: sounds like a line of investigation
[03:50] <drumstyk1> NewHelpr: PING <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data   <is that a normal return?
[03:50] <airtonix> balz, this is the basics of it (this one is talking about ssh...which you might want to use also..upto you just focus on the dyndns setup portion) http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-247563.html
[03:50] <kidbuntu> ActionParsnip: it updates the repositories and then segmentation fault
[03:50] <Andrew__1> hello. i am using irssi and i was wondering if it was possible for me to set it up so my nick is different on different servers. thank you for your help.
[03:50] <NewHelpr> drumstik after that what does the ping return?
[03:50] <airtonix> balz, another here : http://www.krisalan.com/?p=97
[03:50] <balz> airtonix:  this is great. thank you very much
[03:50] <PoisonArrow> ActionParsnip, I see, when making the new .iso, do I include the boot folder that is with the date I got off the cd. AND how would I create a boot sector
[03:50] <airtonix> balz, second link may be easier to read
[03:51] <apathadeus> hello people, what is a good rpg to play on ubuntu?
[03:51] <Pelo> !games | apathadeus
[03:51] <apathadeus> lol, the convenience of a BOT!
[03:51] <Andrew__1> i would much appreciate some help
[03:51] <kitche> Andrew__1: yes but not sure how to do that in the config file exactly
[03:51] <balz> airtonix:  yeah the second link looks like it's exactly what i need. thanks again!
[03:51] <Andrew__1> kitche: thank you!
[03:51] <minimec> Andrew__1: I don't think that's possible.
[03:51] <kidbuntu> ActionParsnip: yow ma men.. i think i fixed it.. i just tried something that i didnt expected
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> PoisonArrow: ive not done it so im not sure, you would need whatever was previously on the cd to make it boot but extractibg the files then recreating the iso is not retaining the boot sector. id have a websearch
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: sweet
[03:52] <minimec> Andrew__1: ... but I am not sure...
[03:52] <kitche> Andrew__1: just when you connect to the server you can do /nick <nick> and it will change your nick
[03:52] <drumstyk1> NewHelpr: it only returns that single line
[03:52] <Andrew__1> kitche: i read the documentation but my english is not well and i dont understand lots
[03:52] <PoisonArrow> ActionParsnip, k, I've been looking the past 3 hours, very hard to find info on it
[03:52] <kitche> Andrew__1: let me check real quick per server basis
[03:52] <Andrew__1> kitche: i would like not to do that very much
[03:52] <kidbuntu> ActionParsnip: i dont know how did it happened but one of my sources got commented.. the backports. i uncommented it. i dont know if the update did that
[03:52] <Andrew__1> kitche: thank you!
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: id apt-get update just to check
[03:53] <minimec> Andrew__1: Well it is possible to be on multiple servers with different nicks...
[03:53] <NewHelpr> drumstick it means the computer does not get reply. try <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:53] <sancho21> Pelo: kdenetwork-filesharing. Regardless that this is kubuntu package, I want to know where can I get the fixed package stated as the bug report said. Or may be I can not get that fixed package unless I upgrade to interpid ibex?
[03:53] <Andrew__1> minimec: i know. can you make it do it at start?
[03:53] <ryt> how do i register my name
[03:53] <kidbuntu> ActionParsnip: thanks for the tip. can't wait for 8.10 version
[03:54] <ferfactor> i have this problem... http://paste.ubuntu.com/56871/
[03:54] <ferfactor> any idea?
[03:54] <minimec> Andrew__1: I only use one... ;) I never had that 'problem' ;)
[03:54] <ryt> hello?
[03:54] <kitche> Andrew__1: do this in google irssi nick per server and the first link and follow that and it should work
[03:54] <drumstyk1> NewHelpr: whoops, now its working :-[
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> PoisonArrow: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-from-usb-stick.html this may help but point it to the iso (?)
[03:55] <maco> minimec: what client are you using?
[03:55] <Andrew__1> kitche: thank you very much! i will go that now!
[03:55] <jarr5> hi ryt
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> kidbuntu: im happy with hardy
[03:55] <kitche> Andrew__1: it's a bit long to explain for me right now but that should work for you
[03:55] <minimec> maco: irssi
[03:55] <PoisonArrow> ActionParsnip, k thanks
[03:55] <ryt> how do i register my name?
[03:55] <ferfactor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/56871/
[03:55] <kitche> !register > ryt
[03:55] <kidbuntu> ActionParnsip: whats new with 8.10 by the way
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> !register | ryt
[03:55] <ink1> hey, I currently am looking for a remote terminal app, so I can run commands on my server from anywhere
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> ink1: install openssh-server
[03:56] <ink1> ah, ok
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> ink1: then configure port forwarding and you have gold
[03:56] <ink1> yea, already have that
[03:56] <ink1> thanks
[03:56] <kitche> ink1: look at putty if you are looking for a windows client for ssh/telnet and so on
[03:56] <ink1> ok
[03:56] <ink1> ty
[03:56] <yokobr> ActionParsnip, im trying to install AC' 97 drivers..
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> ink1: you can even install x libraries on a windows pc and forward x programs
[03:57] <maco> minimec: ive done it before. lemme see how i did it
[03:57] <fr500> is there an apt command to remove old unused kernels?
[03:57] <smm289> command line to format a DVD ?
[03:57] <yokobr> install: 102: alsaconf: not found
[03:57] <histo> fr500: no you have to purge them individually
[03:58] <Flannel> fr500: Just remove the old packages through your favorite package manager
[03:58] <fr500> ok thanks!
[03:58] <histo> fr500: you can dpkg -l | grep kernel to get a list
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> fr500: dpkg -l | grep linux
[03:58] <minimec> maco: It's Andrew__1 that looks for a solution. He wants an automatic connect on multiple servers with different nicks.
[03:58] <m0u5e> is there a way to setup a default template for new accounts on ubuntu?
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> fr500: then you can uninstall the old kernels and fluff from that list
[03:58] <smm289> Command Line --> format DVD/RW
[03:58] <kitche> minimec: he already has a solution actually
[03:58] <fr500> thanks everyone, i'll do
[03:58] <histo> !user > m0u5e
[03:58] <airtonix> m0u5e, yes, its referred to as the skel directory somewhere
[03:59] <m0u5e> histo: i mean like, if i wanted a pre-configured firefox for ALL users & future users, how would I do that?
[03:59] <m0u5e> histo: without having to install new plugins for that firefox every single time
[03:59] <chetnick> any download manager for ubuntu (flashget like) where i can put username and password and download from rapidshare?
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> smm289: sudo apt-get install  dvd+rw-tools; dvd+rw-format -force  /dev/<dvdrw drive>
[03:59] <EvilTchnlgy_> if installing a lamp stack through apt-get, will it install under seperate uids for each server or does this need to be done manually?
[04:00] <ferfactor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/56871/ i have this problem any idea please men!!!
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> chetnick: gwget
[04:00] <apathadeus> ferfactor, lol you said "please men"
[04:00] <chetnick> ActionParsnip: thanks, will give it a try.
[04:00] <minimec> kitche: I see. Gonna have a look at it too. You never know...
[04:00] <histo> m0u5e: skel directory
[04:01] <maco> minimec: where you define the server in your .irssi/config you can just add a line that says nick = "othernick";
[04:01] <airtonix> m0u5e, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=838014
[04:01] <kitche> minimec: it's a very long way so that is why you don't see it in here really
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> ferfactor: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/64554
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> ferfactor: run memtest from grub, you may be suprised
[04:01] <m0u5e> histo: skel?
[04:01] <mgutz> how do you add a system-wide path? i added /opt/ruby-enterprise/bin to .bashrc. i can run $ gem on my account, but when i $ sudo gem, it says gem command not found
[04:01] <maco> minimec: ah sorry
[04:01] <maco> minimec: well he's gone now
[04:01] <minimec> maco: sounds promising.
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> !path
[04:01] <m0u5e> airtonix: thx, let me read through that
[04:01] <kitche> mgutz: add it to /etc/profile
[04:02] <chetnick> ActionParsnip: there is gwget and gwget2, which one should i install?
[04:02] <maco> mgutz: /etc/profile
[04:02] <histo> m0u5e: as someone else suggested youc an create skeleton files that will specify what every new user gets
[04:02] <maco> mgutz: or /etc/env
[04:02] <mgutz> @kitche i added there too and sudo still cannot see it
[04:02] <chetnick> ActionParsnip: i assume that gwget2 is newer version?
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> chetnick: try both
[04:02] <mgutz> k
[04:02] <kitche> mgutz: you will have to log out and back in
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> mgutz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114634
[04:02] <pawan> any other webcam application
[04:02] <hitman1985> sup
[04:02] <maco> kitche: why would he have to do that if it's already set for his user?
[04:03] <minimec> nick ="othernick"
[04:03] <michalski> what channel should I go to for help with virtualbox?
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> pawan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=229095
[04:03] <histo> m0u5e: look at /etc/skel
[04:03] <maco> kitche: its set for his user in .bashrc. its the other users, like root that he wants it on, so he just has to redo is "sudo -i"
[04:03] <kitche> maco: he editting /etc/profile and that doesn't get read until you log out and log back in unless you do source /etc/profile
[04:03]  * ActionParsnip shudders at sudo -i
[04:03] <m0u5e> histo: alright thanks
[04:03] <maco> kitche: but he already has it for his user
[04:03] <histo> m0u5e: new users homes come from there.
[04:04] <kitche> maco: yes his user is different
[04:04] <histo> m0u5e: so you just need to add the .firefox files etc...
[04:04] <ferfactor> ActionParsnip, why memtest?
[04:04] <maco> kitche: he wants /etc/profile to affect the root user.  that gets read when root logs in...like when he does "sudo su -"
[04:04] <kitche> maco: he wanted it system wide
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> ferfactor: read the post i gave you
[04:04] <kitche> maco: sudo su - is bad
[04:04] <maco> kitche: but that doesnt require him logging out and in.  it only requires that the user he wants to affect logs in afterward
[04:04] <maco> kitche: no it's not. it's exactly the same as sudo -i
[04:04] <maco> kitche: just as sudo -s and sudo su are the same
[04:04] <kitche> maco: sudo -i and sudo su - is different
[04:05] <maco> kitche: how so?
[04:05] <kitche> maco: sudo su - doesn't get logged like sudo -i does
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> maco: kitche: both are really bad practise
[04:05] <kitche> ActionParsnip: umm sudo -i is the recommended way to get a root shell if you need one
[04:05] <ferfactor> said that the problem fixed by changing computar memories...
[04:05] <maco> kitche: who cares if it gets logged if you're the only user?
[04:05] <ferfactor> ActionParsnip,
[04:05] <maco> kitche: *obviously* it was you.
[04:05] <airtonix> m0u5e, more about skel here : https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/user-management.html
[04:05] <gluonman_> I can't install madwifi for my wireless card. I've been trying for a long time now, and I've determined that it must be a problem with my linux headers.
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> kitche: no need for it, just sudo each command so you dont fry your system
[04:05] <kitche> maco: not always
[04:05] <maco> ActionParsnip: you're not going to fry your system
[04:06] <maco> ActionParsnip: the only time it's bad is if you leave a root shell open and walk away
[04:06] <kitche> ActionParsnip: hmm ok what if I m editing tons of files I don't want to sudo vi 10 times
[04:06] <mgutz> maybe system wide was a poor choice of words, i just want $ sudo gem to work to install ruby gems
[04:06] <ferfactor> ActionParsnip, i have to reinstall ubuntu?
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> maco: trust me ive seen some bad stuff in here after people have used that
[04:06] <TerdFerg1> how do we force a graphics driver to display the mode we want?
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> ferfactor: no, just check your ram you'll probably find it faultyu according to the post i gave you
[04:06] <maco> ActionParsnip: then they needed caffeine because they obviously weren't awake
[04:06] <kitche> ActionParsnip: you see tons of things as well when people use sudo and your point?
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> TerdFerg1: edit xorg.conf to specify resolutions
[04:07] <TerdFerg1> i need caffeine but its 11pm...
[04:07] <bunnyto> HELP , when i create an alias like ETH0:0 i get the error: Failed to bring up eth0:0. when i restart the network
[04:07] <alvarus> i cant install nvidia 6600 gt
[04:07] <m0u5e> airtonix: yeah, i'm guessing skel is like the equuivalent of windows defaultuser ... checking out sabayon
[04:07] <ferfactor> ActionParsnip, ok thanks.. i'll check it
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> maco: exactly, so if they have to sudo stuff then they know they need power. sudo save noobs from themselves
[04:07] <alvarus> hi
[04:07] <maco> m0u5e: sabayon sets up gconf and those sorts of defaults. skel is for shell stuff, i think
[04:07] <maco> ActionParsnip: who said kitche and i are noobs?
[04:07] <TerdFerg1> ActionParsnip: i edited it but not getting what i want.  Only have DVI... resulting in a blank screen
[04:07] <mgutz> @maco i am ubuntu noob :)
[04:08] <bunnyto> help
[04:08] <kitche> ActionParsnip: it can also destroy systems as well if you run the wrong command
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> maco: i never said you were, its just more secure to have to use sudo each time
[04:08] <michalski> HI, what channel give support for virtual box?
[04:08] <m0u5e> maco: alright thx
[04:08] <chetnick> ActionParsnip: gwget, don't have option where i can put my user name and password for the server, where i am downloading from. Anybody else? download manager for rapidshare on ubuntu?
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> michalski: ask away
[04:08] <Drizzt321> Using the terminal server client (tsclient), I'm looking for a list of any keyboard shortcuts that will let me toggle the fullscreen without having to disconnect/reconnent?
[04:08] <kitche> michalski: #vbox I believe
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> chetnick: thats alli got. i dont use either tbh
[04:09] <balz> airtonix:  can DynDNS still be used if my web server is on a port other than 80?
[04:09] <alvarus> how install nvidia 6600 gt?
[04:09] <michalski> actionparsnip: ok, ever seen this error?: FATAL: PAENotImplemented
[04:09] <maco> mgutz: but ActionParsnip is saying kitche and i should stop using root shells because if you don't pay attention you could break it.  you can do that easily with sudo too. so he says "well noobs might not remember it's root stuff because they didnt explicitly type sudo" so i'm just pointing out that the people saying they use it safely aren't noobs.  noobs can use it safely too though. just pay attention to what you're doing and you'll be fine
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | alvarus
[04:09] <maco> ActionParsnip: no, it's not more secure.  that is fud.
[04:09] <kitche> michalski: means you don't have PAE enabled and you don't really need it
[04:09] <maco> ActionParsnip: it is logged, yes, so that the admin can know which user made which change to the system.  when you are the only user, that makes no difference
[04:09] <michalski> kitche: actually I do
[04:09] <kitche> michalski: unless you have more then 4GB of ram
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> maco: its really not
[04:10] <airtonix> balz, yes all it does is tell dyndns.org that your chosen domain name is equal to your current ip address...
[04:10] <maco> ActionParsnip: it makes you notice that you're typing sudo, but you know what?  the # instead of $ tells you it's root too
[04:10] <kitche> michalski: if you just have 4GB of ram then there's no use of actually using it
[04:10] <TerdFerg1> ActionParsnip: I try to force the mode I need for DVI to work but in my xorg.log it says DVI:0 connected, then it says disconnected
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> maco: i bet most folks dont know that
[04:10] <TerdFerg1> seems like it turns it on, then off
[04:10] <balz> airtonix:  gotcha. thanks
[04:10] <airtonix> balz, the external ip address of your internet connection i mean
[04:10] <EvilTchnlgy_> Kitche: is ape enabled by default?
[04:10] <maco> ActionParsnip: sudo is more secure than a root password because it's not an easy target for password cracking.  it's not more secure than sudo -i
[04:10] <EvilTchnlgy_> *pae
[04:10] <michalski> kitche: im working off of 12, now how would I enable it
[04:11] <kitche> EvilTchnlgy_: no it's usually a kernel and bios thing
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> maco: it just means the user has to make a little more effort which makes them more aware that what they are doing has admin power
[04:11] <maco> ActionParsnip: so? it also says<EMAIL_ADDRESS>so it's very very obviously *root* doing stuff
[04:11] <bunnyto> HELP , when i create an alias like ETH0:0 i get the error: Failed to bring up eth0:0. when i restart the network
[04:11] <bunnyto> where should i configure aliases?
[04:12] <EvilTchnlgy_> kitche: so if i install ubuntu server on my poweredge 6650 wit 6 gb of ram how would I go about enabling pae? do i need to rebuild the kernel?
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> bunnyto: ~/.bashrc
[04:12] <kitche> EvilTchnlgy_: the server does have it enabled by default that I know of
[04:12] <maco> ActionParsnip: i don't understand that argument.  if it doesn't work when they leave out sudo, they'll just "sudo !!" anyway, so what's that do?
[04:12] <EvilTchnlgy_> kitche: o ok, thank you =)
[04:12] <kitche> EvilTchnlgy_: you just might need to turn it on in your bios though since some bios have it turned off
[04:13] <bunnyto> ActionParsnip: ok.. but i cant find anything about network there
[04:13] <maco> ActionParsnip: they're not going to stop and think "i'm typing sudo.  do i really want to do this, maybe i should ponder life, the universe, and everything first..."
[04:13] <kitche> EvilTchnlgy_: some bios doesn't even have that option either just depends on the bios your machine runs
[04:13] <michalski> kitche: (im working inside of a vm with 12gigs, how to enable in virtualbox)
[04:13] <kitche> michalski: no clue it's a kernel/bios thing
[04:13] <Polygon89> Hello, for some reason gmail is not working with firefox 3.0.3 in ubuntu, but works fine on the same browser version in mac and vista, suggestions
[04:13] <michalski> hmmm
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> maco: its hoped, i just really disagree with root shells
[04:13] <minimec> maco: DOn't waste your time. The answer is 42... ,m)
[04:13] <maco> Polygon89: you have to define not working
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> EvilTchnlgy_: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man4/PAE.html
[04:14] <Polygon89> maco, as in its stuck at "loading<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:14] <EvilTchnlgy_> kitche: i'll be sure to check... I know some peolpe I was talking to mentioned that there was a grub bug so you ahd to change settings to make pae work. they mentioned they were using xen though, do you happen to know if any modifications need to be maed to grub by default?
[04:14] <EvilTchnlgy_> actionparsnip: I'll take a look, thankyou
[04:14] <m0u5e> Polygon89: you wouldn't happen to have noscript installed in ubuntu would you? if not, try clearing your cache
[04:15] <Polygon89> m0u5e, i do have noscript installed, but it still does not work when i disable noscript globally
[04:15] <maco> Polygon89: works fine here.  did you install a firefox update while firefox was running?
[04:15] <losher> Polygon89: 3.0.3. works fine here with gmail too. Something about your environment...
[04:15] <Polygon89> maco, package manager usually does that, but then it tells me to restart firefox and i do
[04:16] <sadmin> good evening
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> hi sadmin
[04:16] <m0u5e> Polygon89: maybe run firefox from a console .. does it come up with any errors?
[04:16] <Polygon89> never mind, clearing the cache for the third time seemed to of fixed it xD
[04:17] <Polygon89> "third times the charm..."
[04:18] <smm289> Will Kernal updates be downloaded automatically. I just found a link that 2.6.27 has been released, but i'm still using 2.6.24
[04:18] <smm289> hardy
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> smm289: yuo need to reboot to enable the new kernel
[04:18] <smm289> how do I know if I have downloaded it
[04:19] <jrib> smm289: stable releases of ubuntu only receive security and major bug fix upgrades
[04:19] <smm289> Action: I dont remember seeing an update notification about it
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> smm289: dpkg -l | grep linux
[04:19] <smm289> so does that mean Hardy would not receive that kernal update
[04:19] <mgutz> i really miss PowerGrep from Windows. is there a graphical grep utility that allows search/replace across multiple files with preview and undo?
[04:19] <smm289> action: what does that do ?
[04:20] <jrib> smm289: right
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> smm289: shows all packages you have installed containing the word 'linux'
[04:20] <smm289> can I make Hardy get the new Kernal
[04:20] <jrib> smm289: why?
[04:20] <sadmin> what is the linux equivalent of foobar? or better yet, which audio program will show album art?
[04:20] <smm289> jrib: I saw some things in the new kernal that might improve my system.  Like improved SD reader support, and WLAN drivers
[04:20] <EvilTchnlgy_> smm289: oftentimes you don't want to update your kernel unles you havea specific reason, either a bugfix that pertains to you or feature youa re specifically looking for
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> sadmin: amarok shows album art pretty well
[04:21] <jrib> smm289: wait a couple of weeks for intrepid to be released and then upgrade
[04:21] <sadmin> thanks action!
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> smm289: with kernels, if it ain't broke don't fix it
[04:21] <drumstyk1> does anyone know why i can connect to a windows share using the ip but i can't browse the workgroup? this is driving me nuts
[04:21] <legend2440> smm289: Ubuntu 8.10 Beta includes Linux kernel 2.6.27, a significant release with better hardware support and numerous bug-fixes.
[04:21] <EvilTchnlgy_> sadmin: I believe songbird shws albumart as well and is very similar to itunes
[04:22] <minimec> smm289: You can hope for an backport. I guess you will find some solutions soon for hardy, as the hardy **.24 kernel has a lot of bugs with usb for example.
[04:22] <smm289> I guess I will wait for intrepid, thanks for the advise guys, if I update to intrepid will my system stay the same, just be updated ?
[04:22] <jrib> smm289: your data should stay intact.  Of course, you should have backups anyway
[04:23] <airtonix> smm289, doubt it...clean install is my choice
[04:23] <Violet_caem> haiiiiiiiiii
[04:23] <smm289> if I backup my home folder, do a clean install to intrepid, then restore my home folder will all my settings and applications be restored
[04:23] <smm289> I like how I have all my compiz settings and panels set, I dont want to redo it
[04:24] <kindofabuzz> !intrepid > kindofabuzz
[04:24] <jrib> smm289: no.  Only your settings.  Upgrades have always worked fine for me and I've been upgrading since hoary
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> smm289: yes as settings are stored in ~/
[04:24] <minimec> smm289: Your personal settings yes. Some of the modified system settings may be in /etc
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> smm289: apps will not be restored
[04:25] <smm289> is there a way that I can do a clean install of intrepid and then restore everyting to the way I have it.  I'm knew to linux and it took me awhile to get things the way I like um. I'm a little hesitate about doing it again
[04:25] <airtonix> jrib, thats strange because everytime my friends or i have tried upgrades...it borks and creates a mess that is unmanagable
[04:25] <jrib> airtonix: I've only seen that happen with systems that used unofficial repositories
[04:26] <jrib> !cloning > smm289
[04:26] <airtonix> jrib, like mediubuntu for example?
[04:26] <jrib> smm289: but again, upgrading would be a lot less hassle...
[04:26] <jrib> airtonix: no, medibuntu is fine
[04:26] <smm289> On second thought, maybe I will do a clean install, just save my data files and check out Kbunutu this time instead of gnome
[04:27] <jrib> smm289: you can have both kde and gnome on the same system and choose which one to use at the login screen
[04:27] <cactaur> What command do you use to search for swear words in the kernel, again?
[04:28] <smm289> will everything work as smooth when both are installed, still have the feeling that the more things I install the less reliably and responsive my system will be - Windows mentality still
[04:28] <jrib> cactaur: grep?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> smm289: if you have your ~/ on a different partition yuo dont have to backup prior to the change
[04:28] <cactaur> Does it have any options?
[04:28] <jrib> smm289: your menus may get cluttered, that's all I can think of
[04:28] <jrib> cactaur: sure, check its man page
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> smm289: you could try the upgrade, see how it goes, if its no good then wipe it and fresh install. cant hurt to try
[04:29] <smm289> Action:  good point, wish I had put my / folder on a different partion the first time.  Maybe fresh install and this time I make a second partition
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> smm289: personally i think it should be the standard install
[04:30] <airtonix> ActionParsnip, since its something that just about everyone regardless of OS will want eventually
[04:31] <drumstyk1> can anyone here see their windows shares by clicking places>network?
[04:31] <smm289> I can :)
[04:31] <Arcticfox> hey guyes I'm haveing trouble running wow I think i just screwed somthing incredably si mple up with the download and or install i just got rid of my WoW folder and need some help I'm very new to Ubuntu so I'm prolly missing something simple
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: no windows here friend
[04:31] <FFForever> how do i get pure gnome from kde4?
[04:31] <jhmoore719> smm289:  what settings do you want to save? user settings or other installation files?
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> !puregnome | FFForever
[04:31] <airtonix> Arcticfox, have you read the wow page on the ubuntu wiki?
[04:32] <drumstyk1> i see my workgroups but no computers in them... i am using ubuntu
[04:32] <passive> What is linux alternative for Nokia PC Suite ?
[04:32] <FFForever> ActionParsnip, that is for kde3 not 4
[04:32] <Arcticfox> airtonix: I've tried to but I have no idea what most of it means like i said I'm an idiot when it comes to Ubuntu
[04:32] <smm289> Jhmoore: I want to save all my compiz settings, how my panels look, the screenlets I have installed, the applications I have installed, plus my data files
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> FFForever: add kde4 to the end of each appname
[04:32] <danbh_intrepid> FFForever: are you running hardy?
[04:32] <drumstyk1> if i change the location to smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/ then it works but i can't figure out how to browse into it
[04:32] <airtonix> Arcticfox, have you been able to get it running in ubuntu before?
[04:32] <FFForever> kubuntu kde4
[04:32] <FFForever> 8.04
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> FFForever: dpkg -l | grep kde4
[04:33] <chaddy> Arcticfox: the first step is to stop thinking you're an idiot; that'll get in your way
[04:33] <smm289> jhmoore: pretty much everything but I just want the new version to install and work :) (dont we all)
[04:33] <Arcticfox> airtonix: before i cleared my folder i had it running with serious lag and layer and texture issues
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: try smb:// in the address bar
[04:33] <EvilTchnlgy_> anyone know if pci videocards have enough bandwith to handle compiz fusion and all that?
[04:34] <danbh_intrepid> FFForever: those directions should still work fairly well.  Just remove the rest with apt-get autoremove
[04:34] <Arcticfox> chaddy: well I don't know anything when it comes to Ubuntu so I think I'm missing something simple because all the complicated stuff did nothing
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> EvilTchnlgy_: yeah should be ok
[04:34] <EvilTchnlgy_> like a new pci video card, e.g. 256 mb ect
[04:34] <airtonix> Arcticfox, how well wow runs under linux depends on how well your hardware is supported by the linux drivers. what video card do you have? and how much system ram?
[04:34] <EvilTchnlgy_> actionparsnip: ty
[04:34] <smm289> ohh ya, sorry the windows network does not display for me neither, however if i type in the address share smb://<machine>/<share-name> then the share opens up
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> EvilTchnlgy_: compiz isnt massivly heavy.
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> smm289: add it to favourites
[04:35] <Arcticfox> airtonix: I'm running intel but this computer had windows on it before yesterday and I was running wow fine so it's not a hardware problem
[04:35] <drumstyk1> ActionParsnip: that brings up my workgroups just fine but when i click one it give me the wait wheel for about 10-15secs and then just shows the workgroup as empty
[04:35] <jhmoore719> smm289:  You can always back up your /home/<username> directory to a USB drive or CD (including the .* files) will save all your desktop settings.
[04:35] <airtonix> Arcticfox, you misunderstand me .... wow working fine on windows doesnt mean anything
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: add the system as a favourite
[04:36] <drumstyk1> as in define a share by its ip?  i was hoping to avoid that because they are all dynamic
[04:36] <EvilTchnlgy_> ActionParsnip: would it be able to handle any gaming? i really cant think visualize tangible results from the bandwith capabilities of pci..
[04:36] <airtonix> Arcticfox, your video card right...gets alot of attention when the drivers are made for it ONLY when using windows...the drivers your use under ubuntu are not the same.
[04:36] <EvilTchnlgy_> *can't visualize
[04:36] <jhmoore719> smm289:  I'm not sure about the compiz settings.
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> EvilTchnlgy_: sure should be ok, doesnt hurt to try
[04:36] <drumstyk1> or am i misunderstanding?
[04:36] <Arcticfox> airtonix: where can i go to check this and give you accurate information?
[04:37] <airtonix> Arcticfox, and there is the other factor that alot of the acheivements made by 3d cards under windows are done with dirty tricks.
[04:37] <smm289> im thinken a straight fresh install, I used to do it with windows no problem, might as well get used to in in Linux
[04:37] <passive> what is Nokia PC Suite alternative :s ?
[04:37] <Joelito> hi all: How to convert a zip file to tar from the terminal?
[04:37] <airtonix> Arcticfox, have you read this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> Joelito: just unzip it then tar the resulting files
[04:39] <Arcticfox> airtonix: yes i have but like i said earlier it got me nowhere do to the fact that I'm running blind here my friend he had me convert dosn't have anyway to walk me through this stuff
[04:39] <Joelito> ActionParsnip: Could do that
[04:39] <drumstyk1> ActionParsnip: did you catch that... not to be impatient
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> passive: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2275758
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: use the name instead
[04:39] <airtonix> Arcticfox, for example , my old system had a amd 1.8ghz cpu and a ati raedon 9600...ran wow fine on windows but the drivers for the ati card in linux are horrible and ergo i only achieved about 4fps in wow
[04:40] <smm289> airtonix: so Nvidia is supported in linux better than ati?
[04:40] <DocUSN-USMC> can someone tell me whats wrong with this coding
[04:40] <DocUSN-USMC> http://pastebin.com/m10bf51d3
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> smm289: id say so
[04:40] <airtonix> Arcticfox, unless your running a minimum of a coreduo and a nvidia 8800gt i would recommend just going back to windows to play wow
[04:40] <smm289> Good to know
[04:40] <Arcticfox> airtonix: on the ubuntu help forum I typed the code into my terminal and it said yes so that means my graphics card shouldn't be a problem
[04:41] <drumstyk1> ActionParsnip: are you talking about in bookmarks>edit bookmarks?  sorry i am really new to this and unfamiliar with some terminology
[04:41] <passive> ActionParsnip, Thanks alot
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: instead of typing the ip, use its name
[04:41] <airtonix> Arcticfox, :) most cards support direct rendering .... that isnt the issue...the issue is the ability to handle the load which most cards cannot because the linuxdrivers are not given the same love and care as the windows drivers
[04:41] <DocUSN-USMC> can anyone tell me whats wrong with this http://pastebin.com/m10bf51d3
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> DocUSN-USMC: id head into #c++
[04:42] <airtonix> Arcticfox, you are experiencing the effect of microsoft monopoly on hardwarre vendors... :)
[04:42] <balz> what is the command to delete a symlink named "video" ?
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> balz: whats it a link to?
[04:42] <Arcticfox> airtonix: I'm willing to deal with a shitton of stuff to do if i can just get it working on linux is there anything i can do to get it workming?
[04:42] <jrib> DocUSN-USMC: wrong channel?
[04:43] <balz> ActionParsnip:  it links to directory:  /var/lib/mythtv/videos
[04:43] <Arcticfox> airtonix: theres a reason why I'm trying to escape going back to winblows myfriend.
[04:43] <airtonix> Arcticfox, maybe but its a long and painful process....you need lots of paitence and every situation is unique
[04:43] <BriteLeaf> What do I open a .run file with? (It is drivers for my video card)
[04:43] <DocUSN-USMC> thank you
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> balz: cd to where you want the link
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> balz: then ln -s /var/lib/mythtv/videos ./video0
[04:43] <jrib> BriteLeaf: what card?  Why aren't you using the Hardware Drivers tool in the Administration menu?
[04:43] <smm289> TY-all
[04:43] <airtonix> Arcticfox, well we can start with identiifying your hardware , open a terminal and get your browser pointing at paste.ubuntu.com
[04:43] <Xpistos> Unreal, I just hooked up a Zune to my laptop and Gnomad2 could read what was on it!!!
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> balz: if you need sudo to create it then use it
[04:44] <balz> ActionParship:  the link already exists and i'm trying to delete it
[04:44] <airtonix> Arcticfox, once you have these two ready let me know
[04:44] <Xpistos> I could read or write but that is impressive eh?
[04:44] <balz> I've already CDed into its directory
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> balz: then rm (or sudo rm) the link
[04:44] <Arcticfox> airtonix: okay
[04:44] <balz> oh okay. i thought there may have been a specific command for symlinks. cool thanks!
[04:45] <DocUSN-USMC> im just passing it onto you DX lol
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> balz: its just a file
[04:45] <balz> ActionParsnip:  yeah i guess that makes sense. lol has your n00b detector gone off yet?
[04:45] <airtonix> Arcticfox, first we need to work out if your hardware is using dirty tricks to provide system resources (like your video card using system memory rather than its own)
[04:45] <BriteLeaf> jrib: ATI X1650. Hardware drivers tool (assuming I am doing it right) basically makes my monitor resolution go out of range and I get a black screen
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> balz: noty much, your just unfamiliar
[04:45] <jrib> !ati > BriteLeaf
[04:46] <ubuntu_todd> where should I put the installed software? /usr/sbin or /usr/local/bin?
[04:46] <Arcticfox> airtonix: okay then I'm ready whenever
[04:46] <airtonix> Arcticfox, to identify your video card we need to look in a list of pci devices. in a terminal, type : lspci
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_todd: you put it where make install puts it
[04:46] <BriteLeaf> checking it out now jrib
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_todd: what are you doing?
[04:47] <airtonix> Arcticfox, copy & paste that on the pastebin you have your browser pointed and paste the resulting url here
[04:47] <Arcticfox> airtonix: ok what am I looking for?
[04:47] <Arcticfox> airtonix: okay
[04:47] <ubuntu_todd> ActionParsnip: I download some software which is not .deb.
[04:47] <minimec> ubuntu_todd: If you add (compile) software, it normally goes to /usr/local or /opt
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_todd: if its source then sudo amke install will place it where its needed
[04:48] <ubuntu_todd> minimec: I kind of like /usr/local
[04:48] <SuperJat> np,yw
[04:48] <Arcticfox> airtonix: okay here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/56879/
[04:48] <SuperJat> Does anyone know when you can preorder the 8.10 CDs? (or free ones that is)
[04:49] <SuperJat> I'm guessing after a lot more testing and it getting closer to final download?
[04:49] <airtonix> Arcticfox, ok doesnt look good, your video card is on the second line...and it looks like its part of your mother board...and most probably shares system ram
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> SuperJat: if anywhere https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[04:49] <minimec> ubuntu_todd: If you compile software for your system it will use the drectories the developper chose. That will probably be /usr/local/...
[04:49] <ubuntu_todd> But the Path doesn't include /usr/local/bin. And I don't wanner change the path.
[04:49] <SuperJat> ActionParsnip: i was saying is there any "date set" ?
[04:50] <jrib> ubuntu_todd: the default path does include /usr/local/bin/
[04:50] <ubuntu_todd> usr/local
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> SuperJat: 30th Oct
[04:50] <bruenig> the default path depends on the developer
[04:50] <jrib> ubuntu_todd: huh?
[04:50] <SuperJat> OK.
[04:50] <Arcticfox> airtonix: well obviously i can't fix it but is there anyway to get around it?
[04:50] <bruenig> to be certain though when you compile, you can set a prefix flag. i.e. ./configure --prefix=/usr/local
[04:50] <airtonix> Arcticfox, this post repeats what i have been saying : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=423496
[04:50] <ubuntu_todd> jrib: See you again. :)
[04:50] <bruenig> or whatever
[04:50] <mgutz> in vista i can right click on an app and say run as administrator. how do i do that in ubuntu? netbeans is giving me permissions error when i try to install ruby debugger
[04:50] <SuperJat> Give or take?
[04:50] <SuperJat> or perm set in stone
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> SuperJat: id wager set in stone
[04:51] <jrib> ubuntu_todd: note what bruenig has just said.  By the way, what software is this?
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> mgutz: from terminal use gksudo <appname>
[04:51] <airtonix> Arcticfox, the only real way to get it working well is to buy a real video vard, and if your system doesnt support pci express then you either need to buy a new system or dual boot to windows just for wow
[04:52] <ubuntu_todd> jrib: It is parssim which is used to calculate flows of the underwater of oil.
[04:52] <airtonix> Arcticfox, as painful as it may be...this is the only real option you have for effective raiding
[04:52] <mgutz> ActdionParsnip: thanks
[04:52] <Geoffrey2> I apparently need to go buy a new PCMCIA wireless card, as my internal broadcom chip doesn't seem to be functional anymore...is there any particular brand that's well supported?
[04:52] <airtonix> Arcticfox, anything less and you may as well play wow via postcards
[04:52] <user-01> yhukguky;io
[04:52] <SuperJat> ActionParsnip: Alright, I'll try sometime around then for preordering I reckon.
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> Geoffrey2: broadcom works fine with ndiswrapper
[04:53] <threeseas> there is a typo in the .config file for tracker - look for dvision and change it to division
[04:53] <Paddy_EIRE> hitman1985, ok so "apt-cache search emerald"
[04:53] <ubuntu_todd> jrib: If I install it under /usr/local, but my path doesn't include /usr/local
[04:53] <danbh_intrepid> !hardware > Geoffrey2  check the fsf link at the bottom
[04:53] <jrib> ubuntu_todd: paste the output of 'echo $PATH'
[04:53] <ubuntu_todd> jrib: And I don't wanner change PATH
[04:53] <Arcticfox> airtonix: well I have no financial backing whatsoever I'm not old enough to get a job and my parents certainly aren't buying me anything for a computer in the near future
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_todd: make a symlink in /usr/bin
[04:53] <Geoffrey2> ActionParsnip, I've been through all the troubleshooters....the chipset is up, but still can't see the router
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> Geoffrey2: is it in an acer?
[04:53] <airtonix> Arcticfox, then its windows unfortunatly
[04:53] <ubuntu_todd> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[04:53] <Arcticfox> airtonix: I'm just gonna fallow this forum you gave me and see what i can do
[04:54] <jrib> ubuntu_todd: see, it does have /usr/local/bin
[04:54] <threeseas> I solved my HD drive running to much by totally removing tracker - decided I wasn't using it anyway
[04:54] <Arcticfox> airtonix: I'm gonna fight this to the end
[04:54] <danbh_intrepid> Geoffrey2: if you do end up buying new hardware... atheros ftw!
[04:54] <hitman1985> Paddy_EIRE: ok so that tells me what emerald is and can do ?
[04:54] <Geoffrey2> ActionParsnip, Dell Inspiron 6000....it was working fine until about a week ago when it simply stopped working
[04:54] <airtonix> Arcticfox, doesnt hurt to try...if anything you'll learn some new things
[04:54] <ubuntu_todd> jrib: but it doesn't include /usr/local
[04:54] <Arcticfox> airtonix: thats for sure. well thanks for your time
[04:55] <jrib> ubuntu_todd: notice how it doesn't have /usr either and yet your software works.  All you need is /usr/local/bin/ so the binaries are in your PATH.  Installing to /usr/local/ should work fine with regards to your PATH
[04:55] <bpat1182> I'm trying to replace nvidia-glx with nvidia-glx-new.  I got nvidia-glx to remove; however, I keep getting a dpkg-diversion clash with the nvidia-glx-new install.  Anyone know if it's possible to fix without a complete reinstall?
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> Geoffrey2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45142
[04:55] <Geoffrey2> ActionParsnip, I even completely reinstalled Hardy Heron...it installed the driver, extracted the proper firmware, the Wi/Fi light is on, the wireless shows up in both lspci AND ifconfig, but I can't get it at admit a router exists
[04:55] <jrib> bpat1182: what version of ubuntu?
[04:56] <bpat1182> 8.04
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> bpat1182: sudo apt-get -f install
[04:56] <Paddy_EIRE> hitman1985, ok test this.. open a terminal and type "emerald" and press enter and see what happens... keep in mind emerald comes with 0 themes to start with you may need to download some of one of the nice theme sites that are available.. like gnome-look
[04:56] <ubuntu_todd> jrib: do you mean the bin file will automatically go to /usr/local/bin?
[04:56] <jrib> bpat1182: pastebin the errors you are getting
[04:56] <jrib> ubuntu_todd: yes
[04:57] <hitman1985> Paddy_EIRE: says something about an already runing theme manager
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> Geoffrey2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=815300
[04:57] <ubuntu_todd> jrib: I will try first. If problem I will ask you:P
[04:57] <Aughey> anyone ever seen font corruption like this?  http://thinksplat.com/screen.png
[04:57] <ezzieyguywuf> i want to recursively list all the contents of a directory EXCEPT the filenames. any easy way to do this? ls -d doesn't seem to be the ticket...
[04:57] <Paddy_EIRE> killall emerald hitman1985
[04:58] <jrib> ezzieyguywuf: find -type f
[04:58] <jrib> ezzieyguywuf: find -type d
[04:58] <jrib> oops
[04:58] <ezzieyguywuf> jrib: find...hm i'll check that out thanks
[04:58] <ezzieyguywuf> jrib: perfect! thanks man
[04:59] <Geoffrey2> ActionParsnip, the issue here is that's talking about setting up wireless in the first place...this computer worked fine with my router until a week ago, when it suddenly decided I didn't have a router...
[04:59] <hitman1985> Paddy_EIRE: no process killed ;-)
[04:59] <Paddy_EIRE> hitman1985, ok so perhaps reload your DE/WM
[04:59] <EvilTchnlgy_> do they make pci-x video cards?
[04:59] <Paddy_EIRE> logout
[04:59] <Paddy_EIRE> hitman1985, ^
[04:59] <hitman1985> Paddy_EIRE: kk brb
[05:00] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[05:00] <bpat1182> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/56881/
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> Geoffrey2: hmm
[05:00] <PoisonArrow> How can I make a script run at bootup?
[05:00] <bpat1182> Forgive any typos as I had to dictate from desktop to laptop.
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> !startup  | PoisonArrow
[05:00] <jrib> bpat1182: try purging nvidia-glx
[05:01] <ghis> hi, how can i install ubuntu without, i have cd 700mb
[05:01] <ghis> without X
[05:01] <bpat1182> jrib, apt claims it's already removed, so it can't purge
[05:01] <jrib> ghis: without what?
[05:01] <PoisonArrow> ActionParsnip, thanks
[05:01] <Flannel> ghis: You need to download the alternate CD
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> !lowmemory | ghis
[05:01] <chaddy> PoisonArrow: you could look at update-rc.d, too
[05:01] <minimec> ghis: You need the 'alternate' install cd
[05:01] <detrate> anyone know of video players that will play rarred files like xbox media center does?
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> ghis: or you can install the server
[05:01] <BlueEagle> PoisonArrow: alternately /etc/rc.local is an option.
[05:01] <cjmaster> Hello, I'm sorry but I can't figure out how to map a network drive.. can anyone help?
[05:01] <creeed> If I see my wirelesscard in iwconfig, does this mean that its driver is properly installed?
[05:02] <hitman1985> Paddy_EIRE: hmmm
[05:02] <BriteLeaf> Ok, jrib... I went to the HowTo, and it sent me to another HowTo where it had me do these commands. sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko When I did them, it wanted me to log out, then back in. As soon as I logged out, the monitor went out of range. No logging back in
[05:02] <hitman1985> Paddy_EIRE: nothing changed tho
[05:02] <jrib> bpat1182: aptitude purge nvidia-glx
[05:02] <ghis> ok, thnks for yours reply
[05:02] <Paddy_EIRE> hitman1985, thats fine
[05:02] <creeed> !ipw
[05:02] <PoisonArrow> Now would there be any issues if there is a "sudo" command in the script?
[05:02] <creeed> !ipw > creeed
[05:03] <BlueEagle> detrate: rar is not very common on the linux platform as far as I know. It would however be possible to make a script that un-rars the archive, plays the video and removes the temporary file afterwards.
[05:03] <jrib> PoisonArrow: not really, but it will ask the user for a password
[05:03] <chaddy> PoisonArrow: that's what update-rc.d is handy for
[05:03] <cjmaster> Thank you, but I don't see how you map a network drive.
[05:03] <Paddy_EIRE> hitman1985, you my also need to do "emerald --replace& exit" ins a terminal every now and then
[05:03] <PoisonArrow> jrib, o
[05:03] <chaddy> runs as root on bootup
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> PoisonArrow: i'd add gksudo at the start instead
[05:03] <PoisonArrow> chaddy, Ah ok sweet
[05:03] <PoisonArrow> ActionParsnip, dont need a password for it?
[05:03] <bpat1182> jrib, okay, purged it, did a rm -rf /usr/lib/nvidia and then tried apt-get install nvidia-glx-new, same diversion error
[05:03] <detrate> yeah... that's what this video I found seems to do - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXFTt1u3EJg
[05:03] <detrate> thanks
[05:04] <jrib> bpat1182: still by the nvidia-glx package?
[05:04] <cjmaster> how do you map a network drive?
[05:04] <bpat1182> jrib, yes
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> PoisonArrow: if its once linux boots then i think so, if you add it to your boot script it will run as root
[05:04] <jrib> BriteLeaf: I don't know much about ati issues.  Does the wiki offer no troubleshooting advice?
[05:04] <BlueEagle> !smb | jrib
[05:04] <bpat1182> jrib, same exact error message
[05:04] <hitman1985> Paddy_EIRE: i never installed it :) besides as i just set all the stuff up, there was something in the compiz setup or so what i have to do, that much i rememebre
[05:04] <BlueEagle> jrib: mis-nicked that one.
[05:04] <BlueEagle> :/
[05:04] <jrib> bpat1182: well you could force dpkg to install it... Did you google the error first and search bugs.ubuntu.com?
[05:05] <BlueEagle> cjmaster: see the samba-link.
[05:05] <BriteLeaf> Not sure. Actually, that was the first way. There are two. That one was supposed to be the easiest lol
[05:05] <detrate> w00t -- mplayer can do this. just 'mplayer video.rar'
[05:05] <Cami> hola emm alguien me podria ayudar :)?
[05:05] <BriteLeaf> I will see what I can do
[05:05] <jrib> !es | Cami
[05:05] <bpat1182> jrib, the bug ticket claims that using a symlink might fix it, but doesn't seem to for me
[05:05] <PoisonArrow> chaddy, should there be anything in update-rc.d
[05:05] <bpat1182> google turns up nothing of value
[05:05] <Cami> oh ok
[05:05] <PoisonArrow> chaddy, nm :)
[05:05] <jrib> bpat1182: well you need to make dpkg forget the diversion, or force it
[05:05] <chaddy> PoisonArrow: if you copy your script ... cool ;)
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> bpat1182: you could try envyng-gtk
[05:06] <tritium> detrate: the bad thing about that URL you pasted is that it shows pirated movies.  Please don't paste URLs like that in the future.
[05:06] <Cami> uhmm i need a spanish server about ubuntu please >_<
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> bpat1182: i believe part of the install removes all other nvidia packages
[05:07] <Flannel> !es | Cami
[05:07] <detrate> tritium: I didn't notice
[05:07] <Cami> uhmm i need a spanish server about ubuntu please >_<
[05:07] <jrib> Cami: /join #ubuntu-es
[05:07] <Cami> THAKS !
[05:08] <bpat1182> ActionParsnip, thanks, trying to get envy to remove the libs
[05:08] <bpat1182> ActionParsnip, that did it
[05:08] <bpat1182> thanks!!
[05:08] <cjmaster> I read the samba article, thank you very much. =]
[05:08] <Paddy_EIRE> hitman1985, believe it or not the support channel and I or anyone on here would only serve as a distraction to you own learning and tinkering at the moment.. I would "/away" or quit on the irc chans for now and let yourself roam about without the added distraction.. EVERYONE shoud be doing that at this stage.. learning by doing and getting your comfort zones organised should be what you are at
[05:09] <yokobr> pleaaaaasseeeeeeeeeee..... i have no sound.. and i would be so pleased if anybody could help me to install AC97 realtek drivers on ubuntu..
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> bpat1182: just so yuo know, if you use envyng-gtk you must rerun it once booted to a new kernel. so switch to nv when you get a new kernel then reboot
[05:10] <bpat1182> ActionParsnip, I only used it to uninstall the nvidia-glx drivers, I'm going to use apt-get to install nvidia-glx-new
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> bpat1182: fine, just makuing you aware of the weirdness of envyng
[05:10] <bpat1182> thanks
[05:10] <balz> I'm trying to chmod a drive to 644 by typing "sudo chmod 644 -R" but I keep getting the error "missing operand after 644" ... what's wrong with my syntax?
[05:10] <quang1e> hey guys. is there a simple graphical tool for making deb packages?
[05:10] <BlueEagle> yokobr: First off, the excess amount of vowels in "please" is not neccessary. Secondly, are you sure your Master and PCM channels are un-muted in alsa-mixer?
[05:10] <bpat1182> hmm
[05:10] <balz> quangle:  have you tried webmin?
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> balz: you havent said what you are applying the chmod to
[05:11] <quang1e> balz, no. I'll take a look
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> sudo chmod 644 -R /usr/share for example
[05:11] <balz> ActionParsnip:  how should it read?  sudo chmod 644 /path/to/drive -R
[05:11] <TeslaTony> I just got a Razer Lycosa keyboard, and it has this great bit of software that lets me redefine and set macros on every single key, plus set up profiles so that I can change between different setups. But that's for Windows. Is there anything similar for linux?
[05:11] <balz> ActionParsnip:   ok thanks!
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> balz: you never directed the command at anything so it does nothing
[05:12] <ubuntu_todd> jrib: my bin file would be /usr/local/parssim/bin/parssim. Would the PATH search that?
[05:12] <quang1e> balz, hm i'd prefer an actual application rather than a web interface...
[05:12] <BlueEagle> !webmin
[05:12] <balz> quangle:  i hear ya... i just thought i'd suggest it
[05:13] <yokobr> BlueEagle, i have no sound driver installed at all. I cant even open the mixer.
[05:13] <balz> ActionParsnip:  makes sense. i thought maybe it acted upon the directory to which the cli was pointing
[05:13] <linuxgeekery> Currently, I have a laptop with a dead HD and I'm running from the liveCD.  however, when I boot, the process hangs up for about 10 mins when ubuntu tries to read/mount the dead HD
[05:13] <linuxgeekery> any suggestions on how to stop it from reading the HD on boot?
[05:13] <bpat1182> remove it from the fstab?
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> balz: no you'd have to use sudo chmod 644 -R . for that
[05:14] <mgutz> use ubuntu vs debian server? on Linode virtual hosting, the debian image is smaller. i'm not so worried about disk space, but i am worried about memory usage.
[05:14] <chaddy> linuxgeekery: edit the kernel boot line at startup, iirc you want to add "noswap"
[05:14] <hitman1985> hmmm anyone in general know how to get emerald to work?
[05:14] <linuxgeekery> chaddy: wouldn't that just stop it from swapping? not mounting?
[05:14] <minimec> linuxgeekery: Go in the BIOS of your laptop and inactivate the hd
[05:14] <BlueEagle> yokobr: What does lspci list your card as?
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> hitman1985: head into #compiz
[05:14] <quang1e> bah! All I want is to make a simple package that pulls in all dependencies, and compiles a library, so that i don't have to do it by hand every single time :\
[05:15] <linuxgeekery> minimec: it's a macbook pro
[05:15] <chaddy> hitman1985: last time I did it I had to get an old feisty package of it, there is an emerald manager, too
[05:15] <hitman1985> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[05:15] <quang1e> I've been reading the packaging guide, and it's way to advanced for what i need
[05:15] <BlueEagle> yokobr: lspci |grep Multimedia
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> linuxgeekery: why buy a macbook to put linux on it
[05:15] <minimec> linuxgeekery: Don't they have a BIOS? I have no clue...
[05:15] <meek1> hello all
[05:15] <linuxgeekery> minimec: it's EFI
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> quang1e: apt-get does that for you
[05:15] <Dudeeee34> Hey guys.
[05:16] <yokobr> BlueEagle,  Miscellaneous Control?
[05:16] <linuxgeekery> ActionParsnip: I didn't really, I mainly use OS X but I triple boot. And since you can't have an OS X live cd, I'm running Ubuntu while I wait for my new drive to arrive
[05:16] <quang1e> ActionParsnip, not if you want to build a custom library that depends on some other libs in the repos
[05:16] <BlueEagle> yokobr: that doesn't sound right.
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> linuxgeekery: you could make it not load the module for hard drive access maybe
[05:16] <yokobr> BlueEagle, it only appears my video, processor.. dram controller
[05:16] <chaddy> linuxgeekery: not sure but there might be an option in refit.conf to disable everything but optical drives
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> linuxgeekery: you could always disable te drive in bios
[05:16] <yokobr> and that miscelaneous thing.
[05:16] <mgutz> one reason to use linux on macbook is because macports and fink suck
[05:17] <BlueEagle> yokobr: Nothing like "Multimedia audio controller"?
[05:17] <linuxgeekery> ActionParsnip: like I said, there's no BIOS, and chaddy I'm not using refit
[05:17] <chaddy> try noswap, then
[05:17] <yokobr> nope.
[05:17] <BlueEagle> yokobr: Are you using an USB audio device?
[05:17] <linuxgeekery> kk, thanks
[05:17] <chaddy> that's what it's looking for
[05:17] <karsten> How do I get my current ubuntu release?
[05:17] <yokobr> its not compilled on the kernel.
[05:17] <yokobr> nope..
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> quang1e: then install the one on the repos, then uninstall just the app but dont autoremove, then compile what you want and install it, you will then have the deps
[05:17] <Flannel> karsten: You mean what you're on now?  lsb_release -a
[05:17] <yokobr> its an AC97 onboard nforce 4 chipset.
[05:17] <BlueEagle> karsten: /etc/issue lists it.
[05:18] <chaddy> linuxgeekery: if it doesn't work ping me with what did?
[05:18] <jrib> ubuntu_todd: no, just create a symlink in /usr/local/bin/ pointing to it though
[05:18] <chaddy> ;)
[05:18] <BlueEagle> copy the output from lspci to the link ubottu is about to give you
[05:18] <BlueEagle> !pastebin | yokobr
[05:18] <balz> ActionParsnip:  i managed to change the permissions on that drive to 644 but now i don't ahve permission to access it... I also tried changing it back to 0660 (which it was originally) but i still don't have permission? what gives?  What's the least restrictive chmod setting?
[05:19] <linuxgeekery> chaddy: k, I will
[05:19] <karsten> Flannel thanks.
[05:19] <ubuntu_todd> jrib: how to symlink?
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> balz: if its a drive you have mounted yuo need to mount with UIDs so users can access it
[05:19] <jrib> ubuntu_todd: ln -s TARGET NAME
[05:19] <karsten> ubuntu_todd:  man ln
[05:19] <balz> ActionParsnip:  what's a UID?
[05:19] <quang1e> ActionParsnip, it's a custom library that is not in the repositories. I can always get all the dependencies and then build it. But doing so every single time is time consuming. I was hoping there would be a tool that would easily create a deb that'd just pull in all the dependencies that i specify, and then build the library and install it
[05:20] <quang1e> that way i can deploy it across several machines quite easily
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> balz: its like the chmod things you are using. Are you trying to allow users to write to a USB disk?
[05:20] <karsten> balz: user ID.  man 5 passwd
[05:20] <yokobr> BlueEagle, http://pastebin.com/m63fa52e3c
[05:20] <bpat1182> when i go to configure my X screens, how can I differentiate between ports on the same video card?  Two DVI outs per card, two carts.  one at: AGP:01:00.0 and the other at AGP:04:00.0
[05:20] <karsten> Flannel: Thanks.  Ubuntu 8.04.  How current is that?
[05:20] <balz> ActionParnsip:  no. this is a 500gb hard drive with all the movies on the myth server.  it needs to be read/writeable by user "louis" and user "mythtv"
[05:20] <Flannel> karsten: that's the current release.
[05:21] <bpat1182> karsten, the latest stable
[05:21] <BlueEagle> yokobr: that post is very empty
[05:21] <karsten> Flannel: Danke.
[05:21] <balz> ActionParsnip:  and preferably readable by all others
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> balz: is it internal?
[05:21] <balz> ActionParsnip: yes. moutned at /media/500gb
[05:22] <BlueEagle> yokobr: To copy/paste from a terminal to a web browser mark the output in the terminal by clicking and draging your mouse then click the middle button in the window where you want to paste it.
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> balz: sudo mount /dev/<partition name> /media/500gb -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[05:23] <balz> ActionParnsip:  it's already mounted though... I cd-ed into the drive
[05:23] <yokobr> BlueEagle, but thats all that appears with lspci
[05:23] <BlueEagle> yokobr: lspci gives you nothing?
[05:23] <balz> or am i missing somethign?
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> balz: cd ~/; sudo umount /media/500gb
[05:24] <bibi__> Should I upgrade 8.04 to 8.10 ? What are the advantages of LTS ?
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> !lts
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> bibi__: if you are happy with hardy and all your hardware works theres no real reason to upgrade
[05:24] <BlueEagle> bibi__: 8.10 is still beta afaik.
[05:25] <BlueEagle> !8.10
[05:25] <balz> ActionParsnip:  I'm getting device is busy
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> balz: lsof will show any files open
[05:25] <drumstyk1> does anyone know how to unlock an external hard drive? it has a padlock icon on the top of the folder and says i can't write to it
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> balz: lsof | grep 500gb
[05:25] <yokobr> BlueEagle, 00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Contro
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: you need to mount it user writable
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198614
[05:26] <tyso1> anyone, is there a plugin available for firefox that enables flash besides adobe flash that can be installed from synaptics?
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> !gnash | tyso1
[05:26] <drumstyk1> ActionParsnip: do u know any magic terminal commands that will fix it?
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> tyso1: id recommend flash nonfree and nspluginwrapper
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: its in the post
[05:27] <PoisonArrow> How can I list all my partitions, I want to mount them with fdisk
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> PoisonArrow: sudo fdisk -l
[05:27] <meek1> PoisonArrow: sudo fdisk -l
[05:27] <tyso1> action parsnip: does it work pretty well? i mean does it get the job done?
[05:27] <PoisonArrow> k
[05:27] <PoisonArrow> thanks
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> tyso1: works on my systems
[05:27] <yokobr> http://pastebin.com/m20817ce3
[05:27] <tyso1> actionparsnip:thanks
[05:27] <alanbshepard77> does Beryl do anything that compiz can't? If so is it worth installing on hardy? Can it be installed?
[05:28] <GodfatherofEire> Quick Question. When I go to install a new theme in firefox, the "Find Updates" button is grayed out, any idea what's causing this?
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> !beryl | alanbshepard77
[05:28] <PoisonArrow> ActionParsnip, meek1 sudo makes a big difference :P
[05:28] <balz> ActionParsnip:  i get no output.  i'm going to kill the myth frontend. maybe that'll do it
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> balz: or reboot
[05:28] <alanbshepard77> ActionParsnip: Thanks.
[05:28] <alanbshepard77> I wondered why info on it was so hard to find.
[05:29] <freeman> how do I iwconfig in command line ?
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> alanbshepard77: for help head to #compiz
[05:29] <minimec> freeman: man iwconfig ;)
[05:29] <paul68> BlueEagle: goodmorning can I message you have some questions concerning shorewall
[05:29] <freeman> I type in iwconfig wlan0 essid "myconnection" and it doesnt work
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> freeman: man iwconfig
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> paul68: ask in teh room
[05:29] <freeman> I read it
[05:30] <freeman> And I went online
[05:30] <freeman> Its not working
[05:30] <freeman> This should work     iwconfig wlan0 essid "myconnection"
[05:30] <BlueEagle> paul68: Hang on. Attempting to find out which kernel module the CK804 uses
[05:30] <freeman> Then ifconfig wlan0 up
[05:30] <freeman> But nothing
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> freeman: http://www.susegeek.com/wireless/iwconfig-wireless-interface-configuration-utility-in-linux/
[05:30] <paul68> ActionParsnip there are a few questions and Blueeagle has one installed
[05:30] <the_dude> how do i remove gimp, at the terminal...
[05:31] <paul68> BlueEagle: okk
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> the_dude: sudo apt-get --purge remove gimp
[05:31] <the_dude> ActionParsnip, thx
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> the_dude: you may also want to sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:31] <freeman> I know how to use it
[05:31] <freeman> Why isnt it working ?
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> the_dude: so it removes orphaned packages
[05:31] <freeman> This should work     iwconfig wlan0 essid "myconnection"
[05:32] <the_dude> ActionParsnip, thx
[05:32] <alanbshepard77> ActionParsnip: You're an answer machine. As someone who needs people like you around I want to truly say thanks.
[05:32] <minimec> freeman: ifconfig wlan0 up is not working anymore as the connections are handled by the network-manager. Try 'dhclient wlan0'
[05:32] <the_dude> ActionParsnip, cuz i wanna install the new gimp got it
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> freeman: i have no idea, i always configure it with /etc/network/interfaces
[05:32] <GodfatherofEire> Any ideas as to why the find updates button might be grayed out under firefox?
[05:33] <BlueEagle> yokobr: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/240094
[05:33] <ezzieyguywuf> no updates to find ? :-D
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> alanbshepard77: i just like to help plus im trying to get my sleep pattern back so im staying up like 24 hours so its back to normal. its 5:30am here
[05:33] <balz> ActionParsnip:   reboot it is... can you explain what we're doing?  I'm a bit lost
[05:33] <alanbshepard77> ActionParsnip: Ah.
[05:33] <GodfatherofEire> There should be, cause I installed the pack of Ubuntu themes for Firefox, but those dont even show up
[05:34] <yokobr> BlueEagle, my sound driver has worked, when i installed it.. but only in OSS..
[05:34] <PoisonArrow> Ok, I am going to use fdisk to delete my windows partition which is the first partition on my disk, it is labeled as the boot partition. Now, if I do delete it, will it mess up my booting because it is labeled as the boot partition? Or, should can I label my linux partition to be the boot partition and it will be fine?
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> GodfatherofEire: mine is too. maybe its checked already so greys it out
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> PoisonArrow: you may have to reinstall grub but its not hard, boot to live cd and follow....
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> !grub | PoisonArrow
[05:34] <grizlo42> hi
[05:34] <GodfatherofEire> ActionParsnip: kind of odd, though, dont you think, because nothing else shows up?
[05:34] <grizlo42> i had an old 7.10 cd
[05:34] <alanbshepard77> Is there a package/utility to change the brightness of a laptop screen? I have a sony vaio and installed a package call aspicc or something like that which said it was made just for sony laptops but it doesnt work.
[05:35] <grizlo42> that i installed on a laptop
[05:35] <GodfatherofEire> I mean, it should at least show up if it was installed
[05:35] <PoisonArrow> ActionParsnip, isnt there an easier way without the livecd?
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> GodfatherofEire: how do you mean "nothing else"
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> PoisonArrow: not sure
[05:35] <BlueEagle> yokobr: Does `lsmod|grep snd` give you anything useful?
[05:35] <grizlo42> and it has a wireless card that ubuntu sees
[05:35] <grizlo42> but when i add a connection. it shows 0%
[05:35] <balz> ActionParsnip:  500gb unmounted.  what's next?
[05:35] <GodfatherofEire> There's the firefox default, and that's it, other than that, there should be other themes that Firefox should be able to use, right?
[05:35] <BlueEagle> paul68: You can send /msg with your questions and I'll get around to them when I'm done with yokobr. :)
[05:36] <grizlo42> any ideas on what to do?
[05:36] <paul68> BlueEagle: ok
[05:36] <DirtMcGirt> # Appears as DAN
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> balz: sudo mount /dev/<partition name> /media/500gb -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[05:37] <FireflySTE> # Appears as TONGTYED
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> GodfatherofEire: go to firefox addons to get themes
[05:37] <yokobr> BlueEagle, it gives nothing.
[05:37] <balz> ActionParsnip  what's my partition name going to be?
[05:37] <GodfatherofEire> Thats what I've done.
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> balz: run sudo fdisk -l to see
[05:37] <GodfatherofEire> And there's nothing there, just greyed out buttons
[05:37] <BlueEagle> yokobr: If you read the link I posted there has been some trouble with nvidia CK804 with kernel updates after 2.6.16 or so.
[05:37] <balz> ActionParsnip:  like dev sdb that kind of stuff?
[05:37] <yokobr> BlueEagle, I know that i need to (re) install that sound driver... but it says that "alsaconf" msg..
[05:38] <FireflySTE> (#G010E878RM1) hello #ubuntu
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> balz: it'l have a number after, sdb is the physical disk, sdb1 is the first partition
[05:38] <BlueEagle> yokobr: To resolve that issue you would most likely need to re-compile the driver module, and that includes re-compiling the kernel.
[05:38] <yokobr> BlueEagle, i know, but it was working today. And i havent upgraded that kernel..
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> balz: if the mounting is in /etc/fstab id change the line for the partition to avoid all this
[05:39] <BlueEagle> yokobr: Is the module listed in /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/sound/
[05:39] <BlueEagle> ?
[05:39] <balz> ActionParsnip:  too late I just did sudo mount /dev/<partition name> /media/500gb -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[05:39] <FFEMTcJ> im trying to install ubuntu on my laptop.. i seem to be having problems every time i get to the partitioner. It doesn't matter from livecd, or just strait install or even install over the net.. everytime it gets hung at the partitionar.. any ideas
[05:39] <GodfatherofEire> ActionParsnip: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=15x0p39&s=4
[05:39] <balz> ActionParsnip:  and i don't know about fstab lol
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> balz: the dev doesnt exist so it'll fail
[05:39] <GreedyB> What would cause my Ubuntu to load to initramfs prompt??
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> balz: it auto mounts stuff at bootup
[05:40] <mrbiscuit78> hey when i close out firefox and go to reopen it. it says i have to close out the old one running but i don't see it on the bar where it is running
[05:40] <balz> ActionParsnip:  gotcha.  well it seems to have succeeded silently?  I didnt' get an error message
[05:40] <FFEMTcJ> the computer was running windows, so is there anything i can do before hand that will help out the partitioning program
[05:40] <EvilTchnlgy_> mrbiscuit: immediately after closing or after some time?
[05:40] <danbh_intrepid> mrbiscuit78: try: pkill firefox
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> balz: in linux, no news is good news
[05:41] <yokobr> it seems that  /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/sound/ doesnt exists...
[05:41] <balz> ActionParsnip:  so i've noticed.  so what did that command do?
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> mrbiscuit78: give it a bit to close down
[05:41] <mrbiscuit78> danbh_intrepid: whats that
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> balz: the 000 bit means everyone ever can write to it
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> balz: and read
[05:41] <danbh_intrepid> mrbiscuit78: its a command to close firefox,  You can use it if you get the error msg that firefox is still open
[05:41] <mrbiscuit78> ActionParsnip: i do like i will close it down and 10 mins later open it and i will get that message
[05:42] <PoisonArrow> hey ActionParsnip can you take a look at the first link and tell me what the "From Inside Ubuntu" parts means . Does it mean without using the livecd?
[05:42] <balz> ActionParsnip:  awesome!  so now i just have to mount?  or i may as well reboot?
[05:42] <GodfatherofEire> ActionParsnip: You see what I mean when I say that there's nothin else there?
[05:42] <BlueEagle> yokobr: how close do you get?
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> balz: its mounted now
[05:42] <balz> ActionParsnip:  and is there a place where all those numbers are explained?  like a chart or something?
[05:42] <balz> oh. oh wow. i'm dense lol
[05:42] <BlueEagle> yokobr: ie. does /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/ exist?
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> balz: make sure you can write as user
[05:42] <mrbiscuit78> danbh_intrepid: do i but that in a terminal
[05:43] <danbh_intrepid> mrbiscuit78: yes
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> PoisonArrow: im not sure, its not very clear, the live cd is technically ubuntu too
[05:43] <balz> ActionParsnip:  i'll just try to create a directory or something
[05:43] <mrbiscuit78> danbh_intrepid: ok give me a sec
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> balz: www.google.com www.ask.com is what i'd use
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> balz: touch /media/500g/test.txt
[05:44] <yokobr> /lib/modules/2.6.27-5-generic/kernel/sound
[05:44] <linuxgeekery> well.  noswap didn't help at all
[05:44] <cjmaster> Hey um... Well I asked this question before, but I couldn't quite understand it, so i'll ask again :P Well I'm on a LAN and theres another computer that hasa vista on it, and i want to get items from its public folder. The other computer has no passwords. How can I go about doing this?
[05:44] <GodfatherofEire> Action Parsnip: You http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=15x0p39&s=4 Just take a look at that, and you'll see what I mean.
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-3g | cjmaster
[05:45] <Flannel> !samba | cjmaster
[05:45] <smm289> whats the fastest utility to create a .tar.bz2 archive. I'm using the one built into gnome hardy and it seems a little slow
[05:45] <yokobr> BlueEagle, /lib/modules/2.6.27-5-generic/kernel/sound          -> soundcore.ko and sound_firmware.ko
[05:45] <cjmaster> Yea i tried using samba... couldn't quite understand it though. >.>
[05:45] <BlueEagle> yokobr: Hmm.. I was hoping for something like ck804.ko
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> GodfatherofEire: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/browse/type:2
[05:45] <linuxgeekery> cansky were you the one helping me earlier?
[05:45] <BlueEagle> yokobr: or something like that.
[05:46] <ariel_> halaw
[05:46] <linuxgeekery> or did I get it totally wrong?
[05:46] <m0rbid> Is there a way to install Ubuntu on a Macbook as the sole OS?
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> smm289: could use the command line
[05:46] <yokobr> well.. i surrender... i need to sleep.... i'll try later (never)....
[05:46] <smm289> ahhh, i'd still rather not :P
[05:46] <GodfatherofEire> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the help
[05:46] <Flannel> m0rbid: How old is the macbook?
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> m0rbid: which macbook?
[05:47] <kkerwin> Hi. I'm trying to get my UVC webcam to work, and am having trouble. luvcview seems to work well, but I can't get it to work in vlc.
[05:47] <m0rbid> Flannel: Intel Duo Core 2, 1gb ram.
[05:47] <cjmaster> What I understand from samba is that you can use it to get to other files. but is there any program or such that'll pernamantly map a network drive on my computer, so i can easilly get to programs?
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> cjmaster: you need smbmount
[05:47] <grizlo42> is there a way to get all the local wireless networks that ubuntu can find?
[05:47] <grizlo42> like on windows
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> cjmaster: to mount a share on anothr system
[05:47] <m0rbid> ActionParsnip: Intel Core 2 Duo
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> m0rbid: tels me nothing, i need the model of macbook.
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> grizlo42: id get wifi-radar
[05:48] <danbh_intrepid> grizlo42: iwlist iface scan
[05:48] <waan> I have a problem with Rhythmbox, it reports the wrong information that what is in the id3 tags, all other audio players have the correct names. I've deleted the database and all rhythmbox files but it still happens when I import my music again.
[05:48] <m0rbid> Model Identifier: Macbook2,1
[05:48] <Flannel> m0rbid: You should just pop in the CD and boot to the installer.
[05:48] <cjmaster> where can i get smbmount?
[05:48] <cjmaster> is it just in add/remove programs?
[05:49] <linuxgeekery> So, if noswap and sda=noprobe doesn't work for stopping Ubuntu from reading the HD, what will?
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> m0rbid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[05:49] <tyso1> actionparsnip: hey does gnash have to be configured before it works? i installed it but i was having problems watching a movie then i uninstalled and switched for adobe and it plays the movie just fone
[05:49] <m0rbid> ActionParsnip: I seen that but that tells you how to install and KEEP osx.
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> linuxgeekery: do you want eventual access to it or do you just want to remove it from the booted system altogether?
[05:49] <cjmaster> I just seached in add/remove progarms, smbmount didn't come up.
[05:49] <linuxgeekery> ActionParsnip: it's dead, so I won't need it anymore
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> m0rbid: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-772836.html
[05:50] <linuxgeekery> I'm just taking it out as soon as I can get a Torx screwdriver :P
[05:50] <Kenthree> I'm having trouble setting up an FTP server; I create a user account and pw but it fails authentication on the client, I tried mutiple servers, any idea?
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> linuxgeekery: turn it off in the bios or do macs not allow that?
[05:50] <linuxgeekery> ActionParsnip: mac has no BIOS, it's EFI
[05:50] <bpat1182> doesn't nvidia-settings come with nvidia-glx-new?
[05:50] <Flannel> m0rbid: Make sure you use rEFIt, and then just keep no OSX partition
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> linuxgeekery: thats really dumb, good ol apple
[05:50] <cjmaster> Question: How do i get smbmount?
[05:50] <nalton> i forgot the plugin for flash player
[05:50] <linuxgeekery> heh
[05:50] <chaddy> cjmaster: install smbfs and run smbmount from the commandline
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: im useless at mac, i dislike apple products,
[05:51] <mib_ltvbz3tm> hey can someone please help my set up my airport?
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> bpat1182: no
[05:51] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: Intel macs are more or less the same.  Actually, with the newest firmware, theres a BIOS emulator
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: just overpriced systems to me, bang for buck is very low
[05:51] <linuxgeekery> I think either Boot Camp or rEFIt can do it
[05:52] <Flannel> m0rbid: What I just remembered is that if you make sure you've upgraded your firmware (may already be at newest versions, I dont know) they have a BIOS emulation thing.  Just Install Ubuntu and it'll figure it all out.
[05:52] <nalton> plz
[05:52] <grizlo42> danbh_intrepid it says that "interface does not suport scanning"
[05:52] <danbh_intrepid> grizlo42: did you put your wireless iface?
[05:52] <grizlo42> huh?
[05:53] <grizlo42> danbh_intrepid: what do you mean?>
[05:54] <danbh_intrepid> grizlo42: whats the name of your wireless interface?  if you arent sure, you can just guess: iwlist scan wlan0
[05:54] <cjmaster> Does anyone know where you can get smbmount?
[05:54] <bpat1182> is it possible to twinview three monitors together?  The last one being a different resolution than the other two?
[05:55] <grizlo42> ath0?
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> cjmaster: http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1404
[05:55] <danbh_intrepid> grizlo42: oops, I gave it wrong, truy this: iwlist ath0 scan
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> bpat1182: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3775641
[05:56] <grizlo42> it says doesn't support scanning: network is down
[05:56] <waan> Rhythmbox is displaying the wrong information than what is in the id3 tags, all other audio players have the correct names. I've deleted the database and all rhythmbox files, and also checked the tags in Easy-tag but it still happens when I import my music again
[05:56] <danbh_intrepid> grizlo42: sudo ifup -a
[05:56] <jkristheking> Anyone know demoids channel info?
[05:56] <zetheroo> I would really like to get Pidgin working again ... would someone like to help me sort it out?
[05:56] <jkristheking> demonoids*
[05:56] <tyso1> does someone know what java is best?
[05:56] <chiefwigms> question for you guys - can anyone point me to a good guide to make a multi-os distro usb install disk (backtrack/xp/ubuntu/osx)?
[05:56] <danbh_intrepid> tyso1: sun-java6
[05:57] <chiefwigms> everything i've seen is just small recovery isos, like mem test and the like
[05:57] <chiefwigms> or just one os
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: sudo apt-get --purge remove pidgin; sudo apt-get autoremove; mv ~/.purple ~/.purple_old; sudo apt-get -y install pidgin; pidgin &
[05:57] <tyso1> danbhintrepid: is sun java 6 the only java i need?
[05:57] <grizlo42> danbh_intrepid: nothing happens, and then ifconfig does not show ath0 still
[05:57] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip : will try that ... and let you know ...
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> !usb | chiefwigms
[05:58] <danbh_intrepid> tyso1: here, run this command instead:: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:58] <grizlo42> i have been using networkmanager....
[05:58] <jmk2> Hi, is there an windows command-line equivalent to linux HEAD or TAIL?
[05:58] <chiefwigms> ubottu: a multi install :)
[05:58] <danbh_intrepid> grizlo42: doesnt network manager work for you?
[05:58] <danbh_intrepid> !netinstall > chiefwigms
[05:59] <PoisonArrow> I used fdisk to delete my partiton sda2 which was an extended partiton, now all it shows is sda1
[05:59] <grizlo42> nope it just shows the network
[05:59] <tyso1> danbhintrepid: what all will this give me?
[05:59] <grizlo42> and shows a 0% connection
[05:59] <chiefwigms> danbh: i've done that before (syslinux etc), its just i don't want to keep deleting the usb disk - i want to be able to install all of um on it just incase one of the installs goes south
[05:59] <danbh_intrepid> tyso1: java, flash, and a bunch of codecs
[06:00] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: last command... not working ...
[06:00] <jmk2> Hi, is there an windows command-line equivalent to linux HEAD or TAIL?
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: do you mean pidgin &
[06:00] <danbh_intrepid> jmk2: you may have better like in #windows
[06:00] <danbh_intrepid> *luck
[06:00] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: yes .. pidgin opens and then disapears
[06:00] <mikethec> got a USB flash drive-related question when someone has an available minute or two.
[06:00] <tyso1> danbhintrepid: this is gonna sound crazy but why is it named ubuntu restricted extras?
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: ok run it without the & and look at the error outputs
[06:01] <danbh_intrepid> tyso1: well, its for the ubuntu distro, all the packages are closed source, and its the extra stuff that people usually want anyway
[06:01] <Jangari> is there a good how-to guide on setting up password-less ssh logging in using keygen? I've followed each religiously but I still get prompted for a password
[06:01] <error404notfound> I am trying to use ubuntu as dom0 for xen. What I can't figure out is which zlib package and latex packages to install under ubuntu...
[06:01] <Jangari> more a bash question actually
[06:02] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/d720a51f4
[06:02] <balz> ActionParsnip:  I'm reading this page (http://www.zzee.com/solutions/unix-permissions.shtml) to try to understand permissions and I'm a bit confused about what we did earlier.  This page says taht 000 is deny-all (user/group/others) ... why did 000 fix my problem and allow my user to write to the disk?
[06:02] <drumstyk1> what is the ipconfig /all command for ubuntu?
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> danbh_intrepid: most packages are open sources
[06:02] <tyso1> danbhintrepid: man where do you guys learn of all this stuff its hard enough for me to figure out how to put a program on my machine let alone know all the names and details about the stuff is there a good tutorial?
[06:03] <drumstyk1> i am trying to find needed info to setup a static ip
[06:03] <danbh_intrepid> balz: umask does the opposite of permissions?
[06:03] <Jangari> try ifconfig drumstyk1
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> balz: the mask is binary compared to 777 and whatever gets throug is allowed access
[06:03] <drumstyk1> hey thank Jangari
[06:03] <drumstyk1> thanks*
[06:03] <error404notfound> any suggestions?
[06:04] <balz> ActionParsnip:  oh man... this is worse than that time I tried mushrooms.  so mask is a different method of defining permissions?
[06:04] <balz> sorry, i'm just trying to figure out how to do this for myself lol
[06:04] <mikethec> Are there any good ways to "fix" a SanDisk Cruzer Micro USB flash drive I suddenly seem to be having access problems with?
[06:04] <danbh_intrepid> tyso1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions
[06:04] <faileas> anyone here's used mondo before? i'm baffled to why after burning backup cd 1 its burning another cd 1
[06:05] <frybye> hi - how do I get a manual - for example man mplay to open in gedit so that I can search it??
[06:05] <balz> ActionParsnip:  i'm not sure i understand what the relationship between umask and chmod is...
[06:05] <Stupendoussteve> balz, the mask is essentially trhe default permissions
[06:05] <Stupendoussteve> but reversed
[06:05] <EvilTchnlgy_> control-f?
[06:05] <frybye> e e e I mean   man mplayer   for example..
[06:05] <Jangari> frybye, you can search by hitting / in any man page
[06:05] <frybye> oh i c.. thanks..
[06:05] <EvilTchnlgy_> frybye: it opens in gedit right?
[06:06] <balz> Stupendoussteve ... so what's the point of having it?
[06:06] <user11> ariel
[06:06] <balz> as opposed to regular permissions
[06:06] <Stupendoussteve> balz, when you create a file it needs some sort of permissions
[06:06] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: any idea as to whats going on with my install of Pidgin?
[06:06] <balz> right
[06:06] <Stupendoussteve> balz, those are obtained via the umask
[06:06] <airtonix> balz, what do you call regular permissions :)
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: looks like theres a plugin causing an issue, websearch for pidgin org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown
[06:06] <balz> airtonix:  oh god. who knows lol.
[06:06] <Jangari> frybye, then, to see next search results, hit / and enter
[06:07] <balz> Stupendoussteve:  okay, so where is the umask located usually?
[06:07] <airtonix> balz, if your mean regular as in something like : chmos +ax ./script-to-make-executable then those are shortcuts to the umask
[06:07] <Jangari> in one's .profile or .bashrc
[06:07] <airtonix> balz, chmod*
[06:07] <Jangari> balz
[06:07] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: hmmm ... when Pidgin as working I had not installed any plugins ... but maybe there are some activated by default!?
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> balz: if you'd used a umask of 700 then the owner (lefmost number) would have no access.
[06:07] <Stupendoussteve> balz, it is in one of the rc files or profile, but can be changed on the fly via the umask utility
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> balz: you invert the bits in the umask and yuo get the access of the same chmod
[06:08] <balz> Oooh I get it.  the the umaks holds the defaults for a particular drive in terms of permissions
[06:08] <Stupendoussteve> Not a drive, everything created by the account
[06:08] <airtonix> balz, windows has the same concept although its hidden amongst menus and guis
[06:08] <phreakk> hey all
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> balz: yeah
[06:08] <balz> and chmod is a command to change the umask?
[06:08] <PoisonArrow> how can I save my firefox bookmarks?
[06:08] <Stupendoussteve> chmod changes the permissions
[06:08] <Stupendoussteve> umask sets the default permissions
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> balz: the umask is the drive itself, yuo can cjhmod and chown individual files as you see fit
[06:08] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: how is it that this would happen from one day the the next ?
[06:09] <airtonix> balz, woops ignore my statement
[06:09] <drumstyk1> sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces won't pick up the correct NIC... is there a way to specify eth0?
[06:09] <DigitalFiz> is there a way to keep gnome from showing removable media on the desktop?
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: not sure, you could remove pidgin and deps as well as apt-get clean to remove the old .deb so a fresh one is installed
[06:09] <balz> I see.  So umask is the baseline state of the drive, and you can change file/directory permissions relative to the umask
[06:10] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: ok... hows that again?
[06:10] <airtonix> DigitalFiz, yes...by editing values in gconf-editor
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: yuo can configure eth0 as well as other network devices in that file
[06:10] <DigitalFiz> ty airtonix
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: sudo apt-get clean
[06:10] <airtonix> DigitalFiz, you need to look under apps -> nautilus
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: then press up untill you see the command I gave you
[06:11] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: the install one?
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: yeah, the long one
[06:11] <komp-17> PADA SIANG
[06:11] <balz> ActionParsnip:  so now all files created on my drive will default to 777? since the umask is 000?
[06:11] <Stupendoussteve> balz, Yes
[06:11] <Stupendoussteve> balz, open a terminal and do "touch filename"
[06:11] <Stupendoussteve> then ls -l filename
[06:11] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: umm
[06:11] <DigitalFiz> ty again airtonix
[06:11] <Stupendoussteve> you'll see that the file is wide open for anyone to do anything with
[06:11] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: seems like clean ddi not get rid of the downloaded .deb
[06:12] <balz> Stupendoussteve:  what does touch filename do?
[06:12] <drumstyk1> ActionParsnip: all it returns is the following. is this normal and i just don't know what im doing?
[06:12] <drumstyk1> auto lo
[06:12] <drumstyk1> iface lo inet loopback
[06:12] <Stupendoussteve> balz, touch creates an empty file
[06:12] <Stupendoussteve> filename is just the name
[06:12] <mikethec> frybue: man mplayer > ~/Desktop/manplayer_manual.txt   will create a straight text file with the contents of the mplayer manpage entry.
[06:12] <Stupendoussteve> lets you see the umask demonstrated
[06:12] <balz> ooh i see. hence 0 filename
[06:12] <mikethec> frybye: sorry...
[06:12] <balz> and that's it's umask... the permission is 777
[06:13] <Stupendoussteve> If umask is set to 000, then any file created will be 777
[06:13] <balz> It all makes sense!
[06:13] <mikethec> Does anyone in here have a background in the functioning of USB flash drives?
[06:13] <balz> Thanks a bunch!
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: then you can add lines for eth0
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: auto eth0
[06:14] <balz> Stupendoussteve:  what if I wanted to change my umask such that permissions defaulted to 775?
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:14] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: ok I did the complete removal of Pidgin, pidgin-data and libpurple0 from Synaptic ... and reinstalled them
[06:14] <Jangari> balz, umask gives the permissions with which a file or directory will be created by default. But certain processes or applications will create files and directories with permissions different from the umask defined ones. Chmod allows you to manually override the umask definitions for individual files/directories
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> balz: 002
[06:14] <Jangari> a umask of something like 002 will give you 775 modes
[06:14] <drumstyk1> ActionParsnip: should i erase what's there or just add that to the end?
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: cool, also rename the ~/.purple folder if you have 1
[06:14] <WIGGMPk> Every time I boot up, my sound plays when the login screen is available, but after that I have to open up a terminal and execute "sudo alsa force-reload" what can I do to prevent this?
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: add it
[06:14] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: still the same issue ... Pidgin opens and closes right away
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=776241
[06:15] <voglster> sigh... learning to author your own dvds you make alot of coasters...
[06:15] <balz> ActionParsnip... what would the full command be for a drive currently mounted at /media/500gb.  the partition name is sdb1
[06:15] <Stupendoussteve> balz, one thing is umask cannot set a file executable
[06:15] <balz> sorry:  Stupendoussteve, that was for you
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> balz: the same as I gave you just change the umask, try
[06:15] <balz> ActionParsnip:  oh right. duh! lol
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> balz: history | grep mask
[06:16] <Appi> appi
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> balz: will allow you to copy the old command
[06:16] <Stupendoussteve> balz, so it will not be full 777 but 666 even with 000
[06:16] <balz> ActionParsnip:  got it!
[06:16] <balz> Stupendoussteve:  can I expect that to cause any problems?
[06:16] <Jangari> can you set a umask for a drive? I thought it was a user-specific thing
[06:17] <Stupendoussteve> balz, depends what files you are attempting to create
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> Jangari: absolutely
[06:17] <Jangari> where's the config file that contains the umask for a directory then?
[06:17] <Stupendoussteve> balz, if they need to be executable then it could be
[06:17] <Stupendoussteve> Jangari, it is set for your shell
[06:17] <balz> it's just videos and symlinks... so i think it should be fine, right?
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> Jangari: you set the umask for the mounted partition in fstab OR when you mount it
[06:17] <Stupendoussteve> balz, those don't need to be executable
[06:17] <Jangari> ah, right
[06:18] <balz> Okay. well umask 000 seems to work, so i guess 002 will also
[06:18] <Jangari> in the 'options' table?
[06:18] <Jangari> noauto,user,umask=002,noexec, that sort of thing?
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> Jangari: totally, ask balz, s/he knows it well ;)
[06:19] <frybye> thanks all...
[06:19] <balz> ActionParsnip:  lol you have made me an expert, along with Stupendoussteve!
[06:19] <erwin_> hi i'm having problem with my new ubuntu installation.. it doesn't have network.. :(
[06:19] <Stupendoussteve> balz, it's a rusty thing for me so it's good to relearn it
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> balz: as long as you learn and can pass on knowledge :D
[06:19] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: wireless or wired? a clean insteall?
[06:19] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: wired, sis gigabit eth
[06:20] <balz> Stupendoussteve:  yeah it's not entirely uninteresting, etiher.  Definitely a good thing to understand now that my server is open to the big-bad-internets
[06:20] <roxrolly22> hi
[06:20] <balz> ActionParsnip:  does the drive have to be dismounted for your command to work?
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> balz: then that sort of thing is essential to help secure your stuff
[06:20] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: http://www.howtoforge.com/creating-the-sis191-gigabit-ethernet-driver-on-linux-2.6
[06:20] <rfxcasey> I need to chat with someone knowledgable to ask then a few questions
[06:21] <Flannel> !anyone | rfxcasey
[06:21] <EvilTchnlgy_> just ask the community and anyone who kows will respond
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> balz: yes the mask is applied at boot, you may want to add the mask to your /etc/fstab so its persistant after reboots etc
[06:21] <EvilTchnlgy_> *knows
[06:21] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: been there,.. aren't there any patches on recent kernels?
[06:21] <Shakedown> Does anybody...?
[06:21] <balz> ActionParsnip:  yeah the last thing I need is all my media server's content streaming across the internet
[06:22] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: the linux source from the repository isn't the same with the one on the link
[06:22] <ubuntu_todd> jrib: It is well done. But how could I see all the links I have already made?
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> balz: nice to see a lack of ignorance :)
[06:22] <Shakedown> Anybody got an ATI HD graphics card succesfully dual-monitoring?
[06:22] <MikeTheC> Got a question about USB flash drives. Anyone got a minute or two?
[06:22] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: there are always patches but i don't know ift hat ahs been adressed... did you have any issues following those instructions? what version of ubuntu are you running?
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> MikeTheC: ask in the room
[06:22] <aga^_^> how to fix GRUB Hard disk error
[06:22] <Darksoul_> test
[06:22] <aga^_^> please help me
[06:22] <Stupendoussteve> Darksoul_, success
[06:22] <rfxcasey> I have a program that works fine when I go to it's directory and click on it. But if a make a link to the desktop or the main menu it doesn't launch.
[06:22] <Jangari> !ask
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> aga^_^: please provide more detail
[06:22] <balz> ActionParsnip;  you flatter me.  You clearly haven't seen me wrestle with *nix.  Quick question... where does the umask go in the fstab.  Should I pastebin mine?
[06:23] <balz> !ask|aga^_^
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> balz: the fstab uses essentially the same format as mount
[06:23] <Darksoul_> Hey, I have an issue with my hard drive. I keep getting data corruption every time I shut down my PC. I keep getting NTLRD boot errors in windows, and in linux when I try accessing my Main partion it says its in use. HELP!
[06:23] <Jangari> it goes under 'options', balz,
[06:23] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: hardy, 2.6.24-16, currently as of the moment is at 2.6.24-19 i think
[06:23] <EvilTchnlgy_> aga^_^: and include any recent changes you've made...
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> balz: if you look at your current fstab it may give clues
[06:24] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: well there was no real solution there ... and I don't have Pidgin-libnotify installed
[06:24] <rfxcasey> I have a program that works fine when I go to it's directory and click on it. But if a make a link to the desktop or the main menu it does't launch.
[06:24] <MikeTheC> I have a SanDisk Cruzer Micro that used to work correctly but now the data is all corrupted, I can no longer write to it, etc. I've tried working on it with fsck, and also parted and gparted, all timing out or otherwise generating access-related errors. I even tried working on it using Disk Utility on my Leopard box, but it won't touch it.
[06:24] <Shakedown> Anybody got an ATI HD graphics card successfully dual-monitoring?
[06:24] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: taking a look
[06:24] <WIGGMPk> Is there a way to adjust the SWAP partition size after the install?
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: its that early on error you need to research is all i can suggest
[06:24] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: i mean i have 2.6.24-16 and currently 2.6.24-19 is what is on the repository
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead | Shakedown
[06:25] <EvilTchnlgy_> did you try updating your kernel?
[06:25] <EvilTchnlgy_> *@erwin
[06:25] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: yep ... I have been researching it for roughly a week
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> erwin_: sudo apt-get distupgrade
[06:25] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: i cant update, i don't have network
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: could email the pidgin devs, provide s much info as possible
[06:25] <Flannel> !swap | WIGGMPk
[06:25] <ubuntu_todd> how to get a list of all the links between files?
[06:25] <Flannel> WIGGMPk: Yep, that page explains it all.
[06:25] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: ahh, yes. silly me thank you
[06:25] <Darksoul_> I really need help. Ubuntu errors up and says its in use, then another error comes up saying "DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply:Did not receive a reply.
[06:25] <Shakedown> thanks ubottu
[06:26] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: np :)
[06:26] <MikeTheC> What I'm wondering is if there's some kind of flash drive-specific utility out there, or some process with the bundled utilities on my Ubuntu 8.04 box I can use.
[06:26] <balz> ActionParsnip:  does it go next to "realtime"?
[06:26] <WIGGMPk> Flannel: thanks
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> balz: can i see your fstab
[06:26] <Shakedown> I've found plenty of HowTo's but none mention the ATI HD cards (at least I don't think they do, perhaps they have another name)
[06:26] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: is it safe to download the packages needed and install them offline?
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> balz: id also sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_old
[06:26] <aga^_^> my ubuntu cannot start from hard disk
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> balz: backup is good
[06:26] <Darksoul_> is it that nobody is willing to help me, or nobody is paying attention?
[06:27] <zetheroo> Flannel: would you have any ideas as to why my Pidgin is no longer working?
[06:27] <balz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/56898/
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> aga^_^: does grub load?
[06:27] <aga^_^> GRUB Hard disk error
[06:27] <Darksoul_> -.-
[06:27] <aga^_^> but can start with CD
[06:27] <drumstyk1> whoever can tell me how to find my gateway and dns-nameservers gets a hug!
[06:27] <zetheroo> I posted my problem here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=776241
[06:27] <zetheroo> last post
[06:28] <Darksoul_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=945537
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> bals: yeah stick a comma after realtime then add the options you used to mount stuff
[06:28] <rfxcasey> I need help with program links not working
[06:28] <Darksoul_> ActionParsnip: Can you see what im saying.
[06:28] <Shakedown> Is dual-monitoring possible using the proprietary fglrx driver for my ATI HD card?
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: ifconfig
[06:28] <Flannel> Darksoul_: More likely that no one who is awake knows
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: nslookup www.google.com
[06:28] <aga^_^> when im boot from CD then select boot from first had disk, the GRUB are running normaly
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: that wil tell you your dns
[06:29] <Darksoul_> Flannel: Ok, thought for a second people just couldn't see what I was saying... so you have no idea whats wrong?
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> drumstyk1: you can also run nano /etc/resolv.conf
[06:29] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_, it's possible it could be an actual HDD failure.
[06:29] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin_: why not jsut install 7.10? it should come with 2.6.22-14
[06:29] <drumstyk1> i can't find the gateway in that
[06:29] <drumstyk1> but you get a hug anyway
[06:29] <Darksoul_> Flannel: it's not the HDD, I've tested it with another HDD. The other HDD died on me in partioning.
[06:29] <EvilTchnlgy_> and then run that how-to off of a cd?
[06:29] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: is that feisty? you mean i have to downgrade?
[06:29] <op3r> hello have anyone remembered if there's a doc about installing ubuntu on many computers?
[06:29] <aga^_^> when im boot from CD then select boot from first had disk, the GRUB are running normaly
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> aga^_^: you need to gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:30] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: 1 sec. let me look back. maybe i misread what you wrote..
[06:30] <Darksoul_> Flannel: I'm thinking its either the SATA controller or the power supply. Can lack of power cause the HDD to do this crap?.
[06:30] <balz> ActionParsnip:  okay. i added iocharset=utf8 and umask=002.  what does the first one do?
[06:30] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_, have you gotten any other kinds of symptoms? SMART failures? Unusual noises? Slow system performance when no other accountable changes have occurred? Anything?
[06:30] <Shakedown> Is dual-monitoring possible using the proprietary fglrx driver for my ATI HD card?
[06:30] <op3r> Any docs on how to make ubuntu easier to install on about like 50 ro more computers?
[06:30] <Flannel> Darksoul_: you mean MikeTheC
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> balz: i believe its a characterset definition
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: should be
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> !xinerama | Shakedown
[06:31] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_, gimme a sec and let me look at the link you listed earlier.
[06:31]  * GM-Cosmo_PW gives MikeTheC a whale
[06:31] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: No, in Vista I was able to boot up after repairing, but had data corruption in movies (quality was gone) and in source games "your map differs from server". In XP it just corrupted the NTLRD and chkdsk couldn't repair it. Haven't tested it in linux yet.
[06:31] <Shakedown> I don't know what !X is
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> !X | Shakedown
[06:31] <Flannel> !x | Shakedown
[06:31] <balz> ActionParsnip:  what's a characterset definition?  Should I include it along with umask=002?
[06:31] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: But I am running on livecd right now.
[06:31] <Shakedown> Ahh
[06:32] <op3r> anyone?
[06:32] <Shakedown> By using xinerama can I still use the proprietary driver?
[06:32] <rfxcasey> Need help please. When I go to dir and click the executible the program starts but when I make a link to main menu the sceen flashes and lock my machine any ideas
[06:33] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: I'm running hardy :D.. anyway just like to know if it's safe to just download the kernel packages and install them offline..
[06:33] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: I'm thinking it could be bad RAM.
[06:33] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: sorry if u already said this but I can't seem to find it... what release are you running?
[06:33] <varun_> guys anyone know how to get flash working on x64?
[06:33] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: ahh thanks
[06:33] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: I did a memtest, it checked out. Even though I only did it to 50 percent.
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> balz: its not eseential, it just means western european charset, if you use none english chars (e.g. chines) you need to specify another set so the characters on the drive display right
[06:33] <Flannel> op3r: These my help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Server%20and%20network%20installations
[06:33] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: hardy :)
[06:33] <op3r> Flannel: thanks
[06:33] <rfxcasey> varun_, what's the problem
[06:33] <balz> ActionParsnip:  cool. thanks again!
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> varun_: get nonfree and nspluginwrapper
[06:34] <op3r> Flannel: because I am about to install it on over 50 computers :(
[06:34] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: well, you can. just make sure you back everything that you need upp first as it isn't always quite as clean as a netupdate
[06:34] <rfxcasey> varun_, does everything else work
[06:34] <balz> ActionParsnip;  i'll reboot to make sure it's all dandy
[06:34] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: I mean, I suppose anything is possible, but my gut says bad RAM. Obviously, you could take that HDD to another box and go through the setup and see what happens.
[06:34] <EvilTchnlgy_> then after you go get the ethernet running run sudo apt-get update
[06:34] <Darksoul_> MikeThec: I've also checked voltage and timings, and forced the correct timing and voltage. The only thing I could think of is the ram is to fast. Its supposed to be 800Mhz in Dual channel but my CPU clock speed is 3.25Ghz so the ram reports 465Mhz, after dual channel that doubles.
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> varun_: then find the .so for flash and nspluginwrapper -i it
[06:34] <hosstest> What app can I use for RAR archives?
[06:34] <Flannel> op3r: I know complete automation is doable, but am unaware of any wiki pages covering that.  preseed files and stuch.
[06:35] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: I know it works fine in another box, it could be a bad SATA controller. Would bad voltage cause these problems with the hard drive?.
[06:35] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: Well, yeah, I suppose that could also cause it. Can you step the timings, etc. down in your BIOS.
[06:35] <erwin_> ok will try.. you which packages i need? :D
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> hosstest: unrar
[06:35] <rfxcasey> varun_, make sure stop script pluggin isn't blocking it
[06:35] <hosstest> ActionParsnip:  Thanks
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> hosstest: unrar x /path/to/file.rar
[06:35] <EvilTchnlgy_> sudo apt-get install rar
[06:35] <EvilTchnlgy_> sudo ln -fs /usr/bin/rar /usr/bin/unrar
[06:35] <Darksoul_> MikeThec: I did, and it seemed faster. But I'm still getting this damn data corruption.
[06:35] <op3r> Flannel: but its more possible to just do it like the centos way where you can just edit anaconda?
[06:35] <Flannel> op3r: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization/PreseedExamples  and the parent page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[06:35] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: "Bad" voltage? Like undervoltage, or "dirty" as in irregular voltage?
[06:35] <Darksoul_> MikeThec: The PSU I have right now came with the mATX case, so its pretty cheap.
[06:36] <MikeTheC> What's the wattage rating on the PSU?
[06:36] <rfxcasey> What are files without extensions and can make there extension anything you want
[06:36] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: let me see real quick, wanan reread what yous aid to mae sure I'm not misinforming you
[06:36] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: I'm thinking irregular. The PSU seems to start blowing its fan pretty hard whenever I try reading from the hard drive.
[06:36] <Flannel> op3r: ah ha: the latter of those last two links has a section on preseeding, and also links here: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-using.html
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: most are text, whats the files full path and name
[06:36] <rfxcasey> it the launcher for vegastrike
[06:37] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: What's the PSU's wattage rating?
[06:37] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip, it's the vegastrike launcher
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: try: file <file>
[06:37] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: basically i just wanna try the new kernel version.. install em offline and see if my card works :D
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: itll tell you what it is
[06:37] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: 420, 450 max output.
[06:37] <op3r> Flannel: thanks man.
[06:37] <EvilTchnlgy_> darksoul: I would check the amperage on the 12v rail aswell...
[06:37] <slambert> hi, just upgraded on a dell inspiron 1420 and it failed.  I'm getting a black screen with (among other things) "kinit: No resume image, doing normal reboot... Ubuntu 7.10 dell tty1" and a dell login prompt.  Searched google, but no luck
[06:37] <Darksoul_> EvilTchnlgy_: 14A and 16A
[06:37] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: now what's missing is that i do not know which ps
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: e.g: file /usr/bin/firefox
[06:38] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: now what's missing is that i do not know which specific packages i will be needing :D
[06:38] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: What kind of display card do you have in that box?
[06:38] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: for the kernel update?
[06:38] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip, hey if I click on this vegastrike file it starts the game but if I make a link to the desktop or main menu and click that it freezes and I have to reboot x any idea what the problem is
[06:38] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: you ened to make sure you manually install the dependencies first since its offline
[06:38] <inyourgroove> can i put a cookie in my cd-rom drive?
[06:38] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: then sudo should be fine
[06:38] <Darksoul_> It's powering a 8800GT, it can't supply full power under full load and that crashes the system. HOWEVER, this data corruption issue has been here before I put in the 8800GT, and at that time I was using a 780G intergrated
[06:39] <pablo> This is not actually an Ubuntu issue, but I wanted to ask if it sounds normal at least. When I boot my computer for the first time after it has been off for a while, the screen looks weird, white lines appear and some seconds later everything looks okay. It's like the video card is stablizing or something. It's a Dell XPS M1330. Any ideas?
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> slambert: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/103148
[06:39] <Shakedown> "It is advisable to install the graphics card's binary driver before configuring dual monitors" Does binary = proprietary in this case?
[06:39] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: after you download the kernel update run dpkg -i kernalfile
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: try cd ~/.Desktop; ln -s /path/to/file
[06:40] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: Hmm... Could be a bad PSU, I suppose. I mean, if you really put it in the hole, I suppose it could undervoltage the HDD in a way that would present the symptoms you're talking about.
[06:40] <spartan> inyourgroove: tecnically you can, but you will not like the results
[06:40] <slambert> ActionParsnip: thanks.  I saw that, but I wasn't clear what action I could take.  Any suggestions?
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> slambert: no idea man, seems quite common
[06:40] <MikeTheC> What was your motive for changing out your graphics card in the first place?
[06:40] <erwin_> EvilTchnlgy_: okay will try installing the new kernel offline :D
[06:40] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: But thats the thing, it works fine unless I leave it off for a few minutes to a few hours. The data corruption is still there but at least I can boot into windows. After a hour or so of the system being off I can't boot up, I can't repair it either. Chkdsk says unable to repair
[06:40] <slambert> ActionParsnip: yikes.  I can't get this to boot at all though... there's gotta be a way...
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: or make a bash script to cd to the containing folder then run the file
[06:41] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: make sure you have ALL the dependencies installed first, at their required versions
[06:41] <EvilTchnlgy_> erwin: or you could endup havig to insstall the rescue kernel to save your install
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> slambert: what release are you using?
[06:42] <slambert> ActionParsnip: I just updated though the gui.  Though the prompt says 7.10?  Therefor, not sure
[06:42] <drumstyk1> restarting my network after changing my /etc/network/interfaces in an attempt to setup a static ip gives me these errors: http://pastebin.com/m494001e8 if anyone can spare a moment to help, i would be very appreciative
[06:42] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: How old is the MB?
[06:42] <pantaloon> Hey, does anyone know if it's possible to have video thumbnail previews in nautilus without using totem?
[06:43] <macvr> hi all... does anyone know how to make the windows list display from right rather than the default left? is this possible?
[06:43] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: It's around three months old, but I've only used it for a month or two. The MB has had problems (not mine, for others) but not data corruption. However, it's won three customer choice awards on newegg.
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> slambert: thats gutsy
[06:43] <Shakedown> Coming from Windows, I installed things to C:/Program Files.  Now that I'm using linux, where's the appropriate/common place to install things to?
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: you dont worry about it, apt-get sorts it all for you
[06:43] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: Probably could be a bad unit. I'd suggest swapping it out and see what happens.
[06:43] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2814
[06:44] <Shakedown> Like, what's the C:/Program Files equivalent?
[06:44] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: When I contacted gigabyte about the problem their response was to check all the components connected to the system. I doubt they will take it back or RMA it
[06:44] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip, I tried that not sure if I understand what your saying completely
[06:44] <Shakedown> ActionParsnip: But what if I install things manually?
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: binarys usually go to /usr/bin and libs go to /usr/lib
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: you'll use deb which will install where they need to go, and compiling source will have make install which will do the same
[06:45] <Shakedown> binaries = the binary source files for programs, right?
[06:45] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip, cd ~/.Desktop; In -s /home/rfxcasey/Games/vegastrike/bin/vegastrike-64
[06:45] <Shakedown> So what are libs?
[06:45] <Shakedown> ActionParsnip: deb?
[06:45] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip, bash: cd: /home/rfxcasey/.Desktop: No such file or directory
[06:45] <amenado> binaries is not source, binaries are binaries
[06:45] <pantaloon> I uninstalled totem, and I'm loving VLC, but sadly, no thumbnails anymore...wondering if I can use VLC to generate thumbs
[06:45] <Shakedown> aren't binaries the assembled source files?
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: its a package for debian based systems
[06:46] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: Just checked out user reviews on http://reviews.pricegrabber.com/motherboards/m/63577396/st=product/sv=review/
[06:46] <Shakedown> Is Ubuntu a debian based system?
[06:46] <amenado> binaries are the compiled from the source
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: kind of yes
[06:46] <G0SUB> Shakedown: yes
[06:46] <MikeTheC> Generally, they're comments vis a vis hardware suggest the northbridge gets real hot.
[06:46] <MikeTheC> er... *their
[06:46] <MikeTheC> Other than that...
[06:46] <arooni-mobile> i have a few bits of text (< 8 lines of text) that i often need to copy/paste into gmail and IM windows.  i know about klipper and glipper but they don't seem to let me persist common pastes (just copy things i have copied/pasted recently) .... any program reccommended for ubuntu hardy?
[06:46] <Shakedown> So what are libs?
[06:47] <amenado> libs are short for libraries
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: stuff binarys use
[06:47] <Shakedown> So the .jar's and such?
[06:47] <Darksoul_> MikeThec: thats correct. I've seen it hit 120+C, but Gigabyte said its been tested at that temp and its fine. When I asked about specs for a aftermarket cooler they wouldn't tell me.
[06:47] <MikeTheC> It could be a bad CPU, but not likely as usually MBs are pretty good about not POSTing if a CPU is crap.
[06:47] <EvilTchnlgy_> sort of like dll's
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: but multiple binarys can use the same libs, the libs are dependancies
[06:47] <amenado>  a jar is an archive
[06:47] <Shakedown> Right
[06:47] <Peddy> hey everyone, can you please help me with making root-run applications have the same GTK theme as normal-user-run applications? Thanks :D
[06:47] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: I have a spare CPU - the same CPU - I could swap it out and see, but I doubt thats the problem.
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: this makes apps smaller as you only download the lib once
[06:48] <amenado> all kinds of files can be contained in a jar file
[06:48] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: I've stressed the cpu with prime95, no errors.
[06:48] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: I doubt it is, too. I really wouldn't be comfortable with a NB that runs really hot, tho...
[06:48] <Shakedown> So, should I ever have to manually tell something where to install to?
[06:48] <waan> Rhythmbox is importing my music with incorrect id3 information, i've deleted the rhythmbox database but it keeps happening, any idea what the problem might be?
[06:48] <macvr> does anyone use xchat? how do u bookmark a channel. but not have it startup when the program starts?
[06:48] <drumstyk1> 1200 people in this room and no one knows how to setup a static ip? i have been sifting through google searches for about 3 hours and it really shouldn't be this hard... is there a kind soul out there?
[06:48] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: But my guess is either bad RAM, or something funky on the MB.
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: correct, its massively rare. i wouldnt sweat it
[06:49] <spartan> waan:  fix your id3 tags
[06:49] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: I'm gonna take something funky on the MB. I've run ram tests and I've stressed the RAM with prime95 was well, no issues.
[06:49] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: did you redo the naming in another program?
[06:49] <arooni-mobile> is there a notes program for ubuntu hardy that syncs notes from different ubuntu computers?  and also hopefully accessible online too?
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: if you did itd be so hard for linux noobs to have to remeber where they installed libs
[06:49] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: When you say the unit won't boot if you do it too soon, do you mean it won't POST, or it won't physically pwoer on?
[06:49] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: timings 5-4-4-15, voltage 2.1.
[06:49] <waan> spartan, EvilTchnlgy_: They are all correct and work fine with all other programs
[06:50] <Shakedown> Hm...okay, so if I download something and it comes with a makefile, I should 'make' the file and I won't have to tell it where to install to?
[06:50] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: I mean, if I wait a hour or so and try booting up again windows gives me the NTLRD error and when I boot up windows recovery disk and do a chkdsk /R, it wont work. But if it was only a few minutes, it works.
[06:50] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: in rhythmbox, how do they appear?
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: gentoo and the like allow you to choose where you install to but ubuntu does it all for you so its easier for linux users taking baby steps
[06:50] <waan> spartan: EvilTchnlgy_: Even the album cover shows the correct cover, but the album name is different
[06:50] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: But the computer always reliably turns on and actually POSTs, though?
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: make only compiles it, the sudo make install will put the files where the make file says
[06:50] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: so it takes other album names from the same artist and replace them?
[06:50] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: correct
[06:50] <spartan> waan are they in latin1 charset?
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Shakedown: its rare you'll compile as most software is in the repos
[06:50] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip, when I put in file vegastrike-64 I get this vegastrike-64: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[06:50] <drowner> helo everybody
[06:50] <drowner> hello
[06:51] <waan> spartan: They are all UTF-8 afaik, I used easy-tag to clear and re-write them all
[06:51] <drowner> Guys - little help
[06:51] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: It's possible when I shut down windows the PSU deliverys a incorrect voltage. Say to much or two little and it causes the corruption. But thats a theory.
[06:51] <spartan> waan:  idk then
[06:51] <drowner> I have my music library split between 2 hard drives, one internal and one external connnected via USB
[06:51] <EvilTchnlgy_> hey drowner, what's your problem
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: then its a binary
[06:51] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: No, it takes the old album name it used to have, even though I've changed it. There are about 30 songs with this problem.
[06:51] <Shakedown> What's the difference between Applications -> Add/Remove and Synaptic Package Manager/apt-get?
[06:52] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: all from different albums
[06:52] <drowner> so, what I want to do is to mount one of the partitions on my external drive into ~/Music/linux-music
[06:52] <drowner> when it gets plugged in
[06:52] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: you changed the names inside of rhythmbox?
[06:52] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip, so why won't a link work on it? I can create working links for other files
[06:52] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: Check this Anandtech link out: http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3279&p=4
[06:52] <EvilTchnlgy_> drowner: go on
[06:52] <drowner> I right clicked on it, and filled that into the 'mount point' options under volume, but it didn't work, it said that the mounpoint can't contain characters like /
[06:52] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: Inside rhythmbox, easytag, winamp, id3-tag-it. They are all correct, but when I import into rhythmbox, the old names appear.
[06:52] <drowner> when i remounted
[06:53] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip, would giving it a .bin extension help you think?
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: maybe it likes to be ran from the working directory, try editing your shortcut to specify the working directory
[06:53] <drowner> but, i'm not sure how else i can get something to mount like that without using a /
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: no, extensions mean very little in linux
[06:53] <drowner> and I don't really want to edit my fstab to have a drive which is only temporarily connected in there, if that makes sense
[06:53] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: the files are all chmoded 775
[06:54] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: i was aout to ask... do you get the same results if your un rhythmbox as root?
[06:54] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip, Not sure I know what you mean about working directory. When I make a link it asks me to browse to the file and select it isn't that the working directory
[06:54] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: My concern is that maybe this is an issue with the 780G chipset. It seems like some kind of data corruption is cropping up even on the nVidia MBs...
[06:54] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: I don't think that would be relevant, since amarok has correct tag readings
[06:54] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: g) Possible HDD corruption issues. (We lost the two 74GB WD Raptors so far…) it does appear to be my problem..
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: the working directory is the folder the file is sat in
[06:55] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: it's almost like there is a second database somewhere with incorrect titles that wont correct itself
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: if you run a link to a file you are in the desktop folder
[06:55] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: maybe im misunderstanding your problem, your saying you open  a file in rhythmbox, change the id3 info. delete it romt he library, and thenr eimport it to rhytmbox and the id3 tag are incorrecyt?
[06:55] <rfxcasey> ActionParsnip, what else would a link contain? It is set to the working directory.
[06:55] <EvilTchnlgy_> *from the
[06:55] <drowner> EvilTchnlgy_: you can get to me when you're done with him ;)
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> rfxcasey: you could make a bash script to cd to the folder the binary is in then execute it
[06:55] <EvilTchnlgy_> drwoner: sorry, trying to multitask haha
[06:56] <EvilTchnlgy_> *drowner
[06:56] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: I rename a file, close rhythmbox, and the file is back to original
[06:56] <Darksoul_> MikeTheC: Is it possible the CPU Vcore is not enough?. I have it set to 1.35, but PCHEALTH reports it at 1.43ish
[06:56] <EvilTchnlgy_> waan: oohhh, i misunderstood
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> anyhoo kids i gotta look after my job responsibilities so i'll love you and leave you
[06:56] <waan> EvilTchnlgy_: s/rename/retag
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> peace out
[06:56] <drumstyk1> can anyone tell me whats wrong with my /etc/network/interfaces??? http://pastebin.com/m11fe5dd3
[06:57] <MikeTheC> Darksoul_: Not sure on that... Really never got that much into tweaking those settings myself. *But* the question needs to be asked - how stable is that mobo *really*, y'know?