[06:14] <cvw> ghoti: looks like I'll have to do it manually - trying to avoid that to avoid any "gotchas"
[06:14] <frenzy422> i can get to the network connections dialog
[06:14] <ghoti> cvw: I hear you. Best of luck!
[06:14] <likwid> help my X server won't start, my X.org log says it can't detect my screens" and i'm posting some pastebins of my issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/160445/ & http://paste.ubuntu.com/160446/
[06:14] <cvw> ghoti: ty
[06:15] <gregorovius> is anybody experiencing problems with the 3.0.10 firefox upgrade? it's refusing to start in my computer
[06:15] <syntax\> i mean everything are just works, save open etc are words.
[06:15] <voss> grego restart your computer
[06:15] <int256> how much space is required to install ubuntu.
[06:15] <syntax\> words*
[06:15] <lws> greg: yes
[06:15] <lws> greg: Mine comes up with an annoying window
[06:15] <Gartral1> how do i reset xorg from ssh console?
[06:15] <ghoti> int256: I'd advise at least 6GB or so, more if you want to install a lot of applications
[06:15] <voss> grego, it may need that
[06:16] <ghoti> Gartral1: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:16] <daftykins> gregorovius, did you install it and now firefox won't open?
[06:16] <lws> Why should you need to reboot for firefox?
[06:16] <elenita> I tried the wiki, is the broadcom 4311 chipset for a, b and g /sbin/iwlist s claim wlan0 gets no results
[06:16] <gregorovius> daftykins, indeed
[06:16] <lws> daftykins: I have the same problem
[06:16] <gregorovius> $ firefox
[06:16] <gregorovius> Bus error
[06:16] <lws> grego: Mine is not quite that error.
[06:16] <gregorovius> tried reinstalling, no dice
[06:16] <daftykins> gregorovius, try "sudo apt-get purge firefox && sudo apt-get install firefox"
[06:16] <lws> daftykins: I tried that
[06:16] <voss> grego, also restart your computer
[06:17] <int256> ghoti: i have 7.8gb free space in my C: drive. ok ?
[06:17] <lws> voss: Who heard of restarting a LINUX computer because of an application install?
[06:17] <ghoti> int256: are you planning on using wubi to install, or partitioning?
[06:17] <daftykins> lws is your error the "Bus error" the same as gregorovius ?
[06:17] <voss> lws, it doesnt make sense but it works
[06:17] <int256> wubi ??
[06:17] <bitmonk> ismarc: i know that, but i've tried generating the hash for shadow more than one way, and the accounts do not work.  i've even tried using useradd and passing the hash in, as it doesn't accept a clear password and shadow it for you.
[06:17] <gregorovius> I'll try restarting first, just in case, if that doesn't work I'll try purging, brb
[06:17] <lws> daftykins: No.  It pops up with an assertion dialog: "ASSERT: **** Search: _installLocation: engine has no file!"
[06:17] <int256> ghoti: wubi ??
[06:17] <frenzy422> still not working
[06:18] <daftykins> tried renaming your ~/.mozilla just in case it's a profile config thing lws? sounds more major i know, but worth a go
[06:18] <ghoti> int256: it's a slightly more painless dual-boot that doesn't involve repartitioning your hard drive
[06:18] <Vague> lws, when it upgrades Firefox I often have to reboot the computer, or sometimes just restart the program, to allow everything to work properly.
[06:19] <int256> ghoti: then i will use wubi. I am now using windows XP. i want to dual boot XP and Ubuntu
[06:19] <voss> lws, a restart fixes that
[06:19] <Vague> I don't think it's that uncommon, but who am I to say?
[06:19] <lnb_> how can i force vesa for xorg
[06:19] <lws> daftykins: No luck
[06:19] <ghoti> int256: that should work nicely; there are only a couple minor caveats to using wubi
[06:19] <daftykins> i always close firefox when i see it pop up in updates. let the update go, then start it again.
[06:19] <gregorovius> rebooting doesn't help
[06:19] <lws> voss: Why should a restart fix that?  Why can't I fix it WITHOUT restarting?
[06:20] <voss> lws, I dont know
[06:20] <ghoti> mainly that you cannot hibernate your Linux install
[06:20] <daftykins> lws tried restarting just X?
[06:20] <Vague> daftykins, that fixes it too.
[06:20] <daftykins> login at tty1 and type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[06:20] <lws> daftykins: No, I have a bunch of stuff open that I don't want to close.
[06:20] <gregorovius> daftykins, voss, restarting didn't fix it for me
[06:20] <rope_> Hi ! How can i know wich memory card do i have? (in order to buy a new one)
[06:20] <lws> grr..
[06:20] <ianm_> anyone else seeing flash videos reset to 0 sec after a few seconds?
[06:20] <lws> BBIAB
[06:21] <voss> grego, ok now try a little windex. That fixes everything ;-)
[06:21] <dash> hi. anybody used banshee for burning CDs? it's supposed to integrate with brasero
[06:21] <int256> ghoti: that is not a problem. any other problems like system crashing or somthing like that ?
[06:21] <dash> but i'm not seeing it
[06:21] <kaveh> i'm trying to mount an external hard disk attached to a computer on my network (not my computer). the issue is that when i mount it (using sshfs - was working before i formatted) the folder i mounted to disappears. when i check its permissions they've changed to 'root' from what they should be. unmounting doesn't change the permissions (owner etc..) so i use chown to fix it, upon attempting to mount again the folder disappears
[06:21] <kaveh>  again. with thunar, normal thunar properties on folder and do the mount nothing changes but the folder disappears, however sudo thunar shows the permissions change - any clues?
[06:21] <gregorovius> if I run it from fish I get fish: Job 1, “firefox” terminated by signal SIGBUS (Misaligned address error)
[06:21] <dash> dragging tracks fro banshee makes brasero segfault
[06:21] <voss> fish?
[06:21] <lnb_> doesnt ubuntu use a valid xorg.conf ?
[06:21] <kaveh> fish indeed xD
[06:21] <lnb_> wtf?
[06:21] <ghoti> int256: only if you poweroff the system without shitting it down gracefully; wubi installs are more sensitive to that sort of thing. As long as you shut down normally, you shouldn't have any trouble
[06:21] <gregorovius> voss, it's a shell
[06:22] <daftykins> any luck with purge then?
[06:22] <daftykins> gregorovius, ^
[06:22] <voss> grego try running it from gnome then once its started then use fish or poker or whatever you want
[06:22] <int256> ghoti: ok
[06:22] <frenzy422> how do i enable wireless from the command line
[06:23] <histo_> frenzy422: use iwconfig to put in settings
[06:23]  * int256 is going to bathroom
[06:23] <ghoti> frenzy422: man iwconfig
[06:23] <histo_> frenzy422: you can sudo iwlist scan   to scan for aps then enter the information in iwconfig
[06:23] <voss> frenzy open up a command line and type in iwconfig
[06:24] <gregorovius> daftykins, nope =/
[06:24] <jhass840> Is there a open-nautilus script that is similar to open-terminal except it opens a nautilus window?
[06:24] <daftykins> hmm, did it uninstall cleanly gregorovius ?
[06:24] <kaveh> anyone able to shed light on my issue? using sshfs to mount an external on another pc changes ownership of the folder its mounted to
[06:24]  * int256 is back
[06:24] <kaveh> and chown only works after unmounting the folder
[06:24] <gregorovius> daftykins, yes, I purged all related packages, cleaned the cache, redownloaded...
[06:25] <daftykins> erk.
[06:25] <likwid> help my X server won't start, my X.org log says it can't detect my screens and i'm posting some pastebins of my issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/160445/ & http://paste.ubuntu.com/160446/
[06:25] <daftykins> gregorovius, i'd try renaming your ~/.mozilla as well to check it's not profile related. does sound pretty major though. i'm stumped other than that i'm afraid
[06:25] <lnb_> likwid: you didnt happen to upgrade to 9.04 did you?
[06:26] <gregorovius> daftykins, that's the first thing I tried
[06:26] <likwid> yes i upgraded to 9.04 earlier today
[06:26] <ismarc> bitmonk: I just tested, and so long as you have a valid group id, and different user id, generating a password with openssl worked perfect when added to the shadow file.  So you can just have a test shadow and test passwd files and just copy them into place to enable your test accounts
[06:26] <holyguyver> how do I find out what /dev/sda6 is mountated on /media/disk?
[06:26] <lnb_> likwid: well i just upgraded my notebook and now i can only boot to a shell
[06:26] <likwid> yea i get to the shell
[06:26] <lnb_> likwidL i tried apt install xorg... -intel-dbg but its still no good
[06:27] <likwid> lnb_: well i think its a shell.. sort of like DOS? command prompt style. i type exit and it then looks like bios look a like
[06:27] <lnb_> likwid: and i cant get Xorg -configure to work as it cant find stuff
[06:27] <lnb_> root shell looks like dos shell
[06:27] <daftykins> ok, sorry gregorovius i've no idea what to try next
[06:28] <lnb_> all my boxes are FreeBSD and they do have a valid xorg.conf in /etc/X11  but on ubuntu the xorg.conf is basically empty
[06:28] <ismarc> lnb_: You might give sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg a try
[06:29] <lnb_> likwid: if you can get Driver     "vesa" in your etc/Xorg.conf it might work
[06:29] <lnb_> ismarc: ok will do
[06:29] <gartral1> my Xorg went COMPLETELY unresponsive, it ignored two kill commands and the restart from gdm, and it remained active until the machine was rebooted, it just showed the screen it was stuck on, never showed the ubuntu splash before power cycling
[06:30] <scunizi> lnb_: xrandr and it's sibling randr run the show now for video setup.. however it can be overridden by creating an xorg with all the needed stuff
[06:30] <int256> is there exist any way to play a game which requires Shader Model 3 in a board with shader model 2.1
[06:30] <Shihan> hi guys... i tried to do an install of ubuntu 9.04 as a xen instance, but on reboot it hangs with a "rc-default terminated with status 139" error... anyone seen that by chance?
[06:30] <gregorovius> daftykins, anybody who was the firefox error: reinstalling xulrunner fixed it for me
[06:30] <gregorovius> s/was/has
[06:31] <daftykins> ah nice
[06:31] <daftykins> i'll remember that one, cheers
[06:31] <gregorovius> in any case, crap, that shouldn't happen!
[06:31] <gartral1> gregorovius: what error, my system just CRASHED with ff open
[06:32] <gregorovius> gartral1, did you just upgrade to firefox 3.0.10?
[06:32] <gregorovius> I had my comp crash after that, and when I restarted it, firefox refused to start with 'bus error'
[06:32] <int256> i got ubuntu respository in DVD. but how to install from the dvd.
[06:32] <gartral1> gregorovius: nope
[06:32] <gartral1> gregorovius: wait, i might have
[06:32] <lws> so does anyone use use pdftex on ubuntu?
[06:32] <likwid> lnb_:  i wouldn't know where to add 'vesa' too
[06:32] <Baatti> int256, just place the dvd in your tray, restart your computer and go to your boot menu
[06:33] <syntax\> is open office 3 really like this on ubuntu, there's no icons. everything are on words? help anyone.
[06:33] <lws> Mine seems to be missing something important that makes it error out on valid latex files
[06:33] <gartral1> gregorovius: no, im running 3.0.9
[06:33] <elenita> so nobody has any insights into why even though the drivers and firmware are installed and ubuntu is seeing the hardware that I cannot see any wireless networks when I can see 10 from windows? Blame broadcom and dell?
[06:33] <gregorovius> gartral1, funny, I never got 3.0.9, I had 3.0.8 and it proposed to install 3.0.10
[06:34] <int256> Baatti: my mistake, i mean how to install softwares from the DVD
[06:34] <scunizi> syntax\: change your theme back to the human theme and see if the icons return.. if they do then it's the theme that borks it.
[06:34] <lnb_> Section "Device" Identifier  "Card1  Driver      "vesa"
[06:34] <quibbler> int256-> add it to your source list
[06:34] <lnb_> thats in my FreeBSD xorg.conf
[06:34] <syntax\> thanks scunizi
[06:35] <int256> quibbler: how to add it to source list
[06:35] <kaveh>  anyone able to shed light on my issue? using sshfs to mount an external on another pc changes ownership of the folder its mounted to   and chown only works after unmounting the folder
[06:35] <lizz> http://square.butt.mybrute.com Come be my pupil please! <3
[06:35] <lizz> http://square.butt.mybrute.com Come be my pupil please! <3
[06:35] <scunizi> syntax\: np
[06:35] <rope_> exit
[06:35] <quibbler> int256-> system-administration-software sources-third parties add a cd
[06:36] <gartral1> ahhhhh! update-manager died! error E: The package cache file is corrupted
[06:36] <gartral1> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[06:36] <syntax\> is it a bug scunizi? any work around to fix it?
[06:36] <lnb_> scunizi: how do you use xrandr in txt mode?
[06:36] <ismarc> kaveh: are you running sshfs with sudo?
[06:36] <scunizi> syntax\: it's a bug in the theme you loaded..
[06:36] <int256> quibbler: ok, do i have to add all the discs.
[06:36] <kaveh> i did the first tim
[06:36] <kaveh> *time
[06:36] <kaveh> but not the 2nd and after that
[06:36] <paul68> elenita: try to connect to the internet with cable see if in the repos ndiswrapper is installed if not install it reboot and check if you see in system => preferences=> hardware drivers
[06:37] <scunizi> lnb_: there's lots on the web about that.. i haven't used it enough to remember
[06:37] <DivxcluB> Hello guys !
[06:37] <syntax\> okey.
[06:37]  * int256 is in great crysis. here is not power supply
[06:37] <quibbler> int256-> that i would assume, i've only done it add a dvd
[06:37] <DivxcluB> May I ask question about my ATI card ?
[06:37] <int256> ok
[06:38] <ismarc> kaveh: I'd say make sure it was fully unmounted, chown the directory to the user you want to be able to mount it, then run as the user
[06:38] <paul68> !ask|DivxcluB
[06:38] <kaveh> ill do it again word for word and say what happens
[06:39] <elenita> paul68 I am, when I instaled it prompted for ubuntu to auto install the BCM4311 drivers for the card. I then had to apt get the b43-fwcutter firmware before iwlist would even see the card, it now does, but still no joy...
[06:39] <DivxcluB> I have 4870x2 and I installed latest version of Ubuntu. After installing ATI drivers I no longer can login ( I see destorted screen and  computer freeze) Anyone ?
[06:39] <gartral1> ahhhhh! update-manager died! error E: The package cache file is corrupted E: _cache->open() failed, please report.  <- after that, it did show the updates, what should i do??
[06:39] <kaveh> ismarc: woooooooo thanks a ton - not sure why it worked but this time it did xD i've done that about 5 times so far and nothing and then boom :D
[06:40] <ismarc> kaveh: I've had the same thing happen to me...I just remember that I'm old and my eyes and memory are going on me :)
[06:40] <xubuntu> hola
[06:40] <noogie> does anyone have experience with apache2 virtual host configuration
[06:40] <michaelbuckbee> should I by default have a PATH set in /etc/profile ?
[06:40] <onats1> i'd like to install the vpn helper utility/ gui app that's installed by default on 8.10 to 8.04. what's the name of the app?
[06:41] <onats1> !vpn
[06:41] <ismarc> noogie: Some, but I need a cigarette, so I'll be gone for ~10 minutes
[06:41] <noogie> doh!
[06:41] <gartral1> ahhhhh! update-manager died! error E: The package cache file is corrupted E: _cache->open() failed, please report.  <- after that, it did show the updates, what should i do??
[06:41] <voss> int256, I had to replace a 430w power supply with a 650w after my new quad core cpu blew it out
[06:41] <gartral1> the tracker daemon is slowing my machine down considerably
[06:41] <noogie> for some reason my vhost error.log file says "client denied by server configuration
[06:41] <JKemp> Hey guys decided to try out awesome wm but after logging in not sure what to do...read up on windows key (mod4 key + enter) but didn't do anything :(
[06:42] <paul68> elenita: I personally don't use the fwcutter, just installed ndiswrapper under 9.04. on my laptop I found the restricted driver for bcm directly and was happy to have internet connection instantly on my desktop ndiswrapper was not installed after installation it was under hardware drivers and then it was working correctly
[06:42] <zhanx> gartral1 run this sudo apt-get autodate
[06:42] <zhanx> do what it says
[06:42] <superwad> am i able to add a SVN repository to apt?
[06:43] <Flannel> superwad: No
[06:43] <gartral1> zhanx: error invalid operation autodate
[06:43] <JKemp> Anyone here any experience with awesome wm ?
[06:43] <Claviceps> what exactly is * MSG534 ?
[06:43] <ismarc> noogie: in the root directory configuration section, check to see if it has "Order deny, allow Deny from all" and remove it if it does
[06:43] <Flannel> superwad: Well, unless it's got a http interface, and you're pointing at a deb file.  You can't add svn (which you intend to check out and build, etc) to apt.
[06:43] <ismarc> and brb
[06:44] <noogie> ismarc: will that effect my .htaccess ?
[06:44] <noogie> ok
[06:44] <zhanx> gartral1 run this sudo apt-get update
[06:44] <zhanx> gartral1 i was talking andf typing sorry
[06:45] <DurtDiggler> can somebody tell me what I'm supposed to do with all these files http://vnc-tight.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/vnc-tight/trunk/unix/xserver/hw/vnc/
[06:46] <xarcade> i have a problem with my serial mouse, when i boot up ubuntu the mouse seems to be dead every time i have to disconnect and reconnect the mouse while the system is running and eventually the system detects the mouse and i can use it, can someone please help me fix this problem ?
[06:46] <gartral1> now how do i make it so the update manager doesnt blow up in your face when theres an update?
[06:46] <lnb_> what do u use to get a proper xorg.conf ?
[06:47] <xarcade> it's a ps/2 mouse sorry.
[06:47] <zhanx> DurtDiggler why you messing with that.. look for the .deb package
[06:47] <DurtDiggler> there is nothing else
[06:47] <DurtDiggler> I'm trying to fix somethign
[06:47] <DurtDiggler> this is my only option
[06:47] <Sefram> what could have gone wring when the xserver freezes after "(++) using VT number 7" with ati radeon driver?
[06:47] <DurtDiggler> my damn vnc won't start in my xorg
[06:47] <DurtDiggler> caues ubuntu broke it
[06:48] <DurtDiggler> I was told to install this
[06:48] <Chr|s> !ohmy | DurtDiggler
[06:48] <DurtDiggler> to fix it
[06:48] <DurtDiggler> ?
[06:48] <DurtDiggler> language
[06:49] <zhanx> yep
[06:49] <DurtDiggler> I'm confused but ok
[06:49] <FlashGordon2000_> and no abuse towards other
[06:49] <DurtDiggler> what do I do with these files
[06:49] <floatoat> i need a linux alarm clock
[06:49] <ScottG> What is some way I can determine what network I am connected to consistantly? So I can use it to let me computer know if I am at home, school, etc
[06:50] <DurtDiggler> is it hard
[06:50] <DurtDiggler> I've spent like 4 hours on this already so if it's gonna take much more then Ill just be done with this
[06:50] <zhanx> DurtDiggler know how to compile a program?
[06:51] <DurtDiggler> I guess yes
[06:51] <DurtDiggler> I don't compile programs
[06:51] <DurtDiggler> but I was told I have to do this
[06:51] <DurtDiggler> or I can't use my vnc
[06:51] <DurtDiggler> I don't even hardly use linux
[06:52] <DurtDiggler> tahts why this is pissing me off
[06:52] <ghoti> ScottG: if an IP will do, try this:  'wget -O - -q myip.dk |grep '"Box"' | egrep -o '[0-9.]+''
[06:53] <zhanx> DurtDiggler run this in a terminal sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc-3.4 g++-3.4 anjuta <- will give you a ide to help you complie it and run it and everything you need to compile it
[06:53] <zhanx> and d/l the tar ball
[06:54] <ScottG> ghoti: Eh...that might work most of the time. I might end up settling for that. My homes IP changes though so it wouldnt always work
[06:54] <DurtDiggler> haha
[06:54] <les> ScottG: dyndns
[06:54] <ghoti> ScottG: chances are if your home's IP changes, it won't change *much*
[06:54] <ScottG> les: Well I use noip already
[06:55] <Boohbah> DurtDiggler: or you could use freenx
[06:55] <gartral1> youtube vids are excruciatingly slow
[06:55] <Boohbah> !freenx | DurtDiggler
[06:55] <les> gartral1: it's not just you
[06:55] <ScottG> ghoti: Yea, still can be a pain when it does.
[06:55] <gartral1> les: known issue?
[06:55] <DurtDiggler> ubottu: and that's gonna start when xserver starts?
[06:55] <DurtDiggler> so I can login to any account I want
[06:55] <les> gartral1: hopefully to somebody =) They've been flaky the last couple of days. no announcement i can find anywhere
[06:55] <zhanx> DurtDiggler just add it the startup
[06:56] <DurtDiggler> and wheres that
[06:56] <ScottG> ghoti: I'd rather not have to go in and edit a script every time it does change
[06:56] <zhanx> System > Preferences > Startup Applications
[06:56] <unkmar> how do I see what packages are install from the cli?
[06:57] <DurtDiggler> I will be able to control the console session?
[06:57] <DurtDiggler> like vnc
[06:57] <ghoti> ScottG: alias updateip='MY_IP=`wget -O - -q myip.dk |grep '"Box"' | egrep -o '[0-9.]+'`
[06:57] <zhanx> DurtDiggler i am not sure really what your trying to do man
[06:57] <ScottG> ghoti: lol
[06:57] <ghoti> ScottG: put that in your .bash_profile, and you can just 'updateip' to make $MY_IP equal to your IP
[06:58] <ghoti> scottg that should help with your scripts
[06:58] <lstarnes> DurtDiggler: for terminal-only access you need ssh
[06:58] <noogie> ismarc: are you back yet?
[06:58] <superwad> Flannel: thanks for the info.  i'll just have to check it out and build manually
[06:58] <gartral1> les: yaaa.... flash is in a completly unusable state
[06:58] <ismarc> noogie: back now
[06:59] <ismarc> noogie: any luck?
[06:59] <ScottG> ghoti: Ok, I'll think about using that actually.
[06:59] <Shihan> scottg/ghoti, what about a script that pings your default router at home and school and if one responds your at home or school, otherwise elsewhere.. (im assuming your behind some kinda of router)
[06:59] <noogie> ismarc: not yet
[06:59] <ghoti> ScottG: \o/ glad to help :)
[06:59] <noogie> Ismarc: i edited the httpd.conf file
[06:59] <noogie> Ismarc: should i edit a different one?
[07:00] <ismarc> noogie: what's the full line from the vhost.log?
[07:00] <DurtDiggler> couldn't find g++-3.4
[07:00] <lstarnes> DurtDiggler: try g++ instead
[07:00] <ScottG> Shihan: Yea, some routers can have the same IP though. Like it might mistake me for being at home when I am at my friends house because both our routers are <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:00] <noogie> Ismarc:[Mon Apr 27 10:14:41 2009] [error] [client <IP_ADDRESS>] client denied by server configuration: /var/www2/phase3/math/
[07:00] <michaelbuckbee> ok, I'm just massively failing at adding a path onto my PATH, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[07:00] <lstarnes> michaelbuckbee: export PATH=$PATH:new-path
[07:00] <lnb_> ismarc: do you know how i can get a working xorg.conf  so that it will use VESA driver?
[07:00] <noogie> Ismarc: it says this for every folder in the directory
[07:01] <Shihan> fair enough
[07:01] <zhanx> i need to update my old install scripts for the new packages
[07:01] <ghoti> michaelbuckbee: PATH=$PATH:/path/to/new/directory/you/are/adding/to/your/path
[07:01] <lstarnes> michaelbuckbee: or export PATH=new-path:$PATH
[07:01] <ScottG> ghoti: btw, try whatismyip.org, you dont need to format that at all
[07:01] <noogie> Ismarc: my document root is /var/www2/phase3
[07:01] <syntax\> how do i install ms font's on ubuntu
[07:01] <acoustyk> uhm what channel do I go to to just yell to the mountain tops about the incredible awesomeness of Jaunty
[07:02] <noogie> Ismarc: but when i type in the url, it takes me to /var/www2
[07:02] <zhanx> acoustyk #ubuntu+1
[07:02] <acoustyk> danke schoen
[07:02] <lstarnes> acoustyk: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:02] <zhanx> err off topic even
[07:02] <lstarnes> acoustyk: #ubuntu+1 is for 9.10
[07:02] <acoustyk> ah
[07:02] <acoustyk> offtopic then
[07:02] <zhanx> i am off on my game good lord my brain is gone
[07:02] <snek> noogie, did you do a sudo service apache2 reload?
[07:03] <noogie> Sneck: after every change
[07:03] <snek> noogie, kk just checking ;)
[07:03] <elenita> ot, why the hell are the gnome art servers so damn slow...
[07:04] <daftykins> can someone shed some light on this? i'm helping someone who has upgraded Intrepid -> Jaunty and it seems their upgrade has gone a tad odd. here's the output of "update-grub"... http://paste.ubuntu.com/160474/ and here's the menu.lst after: http://paste.ubuntu.com/160475/ why has it not added the 2.6.28 kernel that it found? "linux-generic" is up to date and installed ok ?
[07:04] <snek> noogie, i usually edit the apache2.conf and files in sites-available, but never the httpd.conf.. maybe that's where your problem lies?
[07:04] <lnb_> booted up to to 9.04 cdrom and graphics load fine. So question is, if I boot normally, what is the difference between cdrom's xorg and one from upgrade of 8.10 to 9.04 ?
[07:04] <noogie> Snek: I will try that
[07:05] <ismarc> noogie: what's under the Directory directive for your DocumentRoot?
[07:05] <ghoti> lnb_: the upgrade may have tried to preserve some settings you had made pre-upgrade
[07:05] <ismarc> noogie: oh, and should probably make sure, you're running Apache 2.2, correct?
[07:05] <noogie> <Directory />
[07:05] <noogie>     Options FollowSymLinks
[07:05] <noogie>     AllowOverride all

[07:05] <FloodBot3> noogie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:05] <noogie> <Directory />     Options FollowSymLinks     AllowOverride all </Directory>
[07:05] <noogie> sorry
[07:05] <snek> noogie, it seems httpd conf is used more on redhat/fedora/centos and debian based distro's tend to use apache2.conf
[07:05]  * Baatti pats noogie consolingly
[07:06] <lnb_> ghoti: i didnt tell it to save anything old
[07:06] <ismarc> snek: apache2.conf should be importing httpd.conf
[07:06] <ghoti> lnb_: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:06] <snek> ismarc, yes it should, but there's no need to touch it really
[07:06] <noogie> ismarc: thats what i thought
[07:06] <lnb_> i tried that and it said not installed
[07:06] <noogie> im gonna try to edit apache2.conf
[07:07] <ghoti> lnb_: that might be the problem.  Try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg perhaps?
[07:07] <ismarc> also might want to add "Order allow, deny" and "Allow from all"
[07:08] <binarymutant> how can I get my tablet stylus to work correctly in jaunty?
[07:08] <ismarc> I fought with Apache for like a month straight moving a debian system from sun 5.8 to debian etch and scripted out the config, so haven't had to touch it in a while
[07:08] <ismarc> err, moving to a debian system
[07:08] <Baatti> binarymutant, what's the problem with your stylus?
[07:08] <snek> yeah there's some differences between the various os's
[07:08] <elenita> just tried installing wifi radar from add and remove apps, installed fine, but tells me "Failed to execute child process "su-to-root" (No such file or directory)" when I try to launch it from the applications menu
[07:09] <sparr> multiple instances in a row (one at a time) of dpkg-query are eating 100% of my cpu, what might cause that?
[07:09] <binarymutant> Baatti, the right click no longer works after the upgrade :/
[07:09] <ghoti> sparr: run pstree and see what's calling dpkg-query
[07:09] <syntax\> how do i install ms font's on ubuntu anyone?
[07:09] <sparr> ghoti: nifty command
[07:09] <ghoti> sparr: it's an invaluable tool :)
[07:10] <sparr> of course it stopped just as i checked
[07:10] <sparr> but ill know next time
[07:10] <ghoti> sparr: must be my magnetic personality
[07:10] <snek> syntax\, sudo aptitude install msttcorefonts
[07:11] <ghoti> sparr: you might check the output of crontab -l to see if it was a cron job that was running the queries
[07:11] <syntax\> snek, what about if i wanna install calibri font?
[07:11] <Baatti> binarymutant, I'm not sure how to help, sorry. Try asking again explaining the issue
[07:11] <snek> syntax\, install it like any ttf font by placing it in ~/.font ?
[07:12] <syntax\> ok thanks
[07:12] <snek> they really should make a font management tool for ubuntu :)
[07:12] <wrektjet> anyone heard of video output issues (ie flickering screen) with nvidia 9800 o 9.04?
[07:12] <binarymutant> how can I get my tablet stylus to work correctly in jaunty, my right click no longer works :/
[07:13] <Baatti> wrektjet yes...
[07:13] <DurtDiggler> so what am I supposed to do with all this stuff I installed
[07:13] <Baatti> wrektjet, are your desktop settings set for 3d graphics?
[07:13] <DurtDiggler> g++
[07:13] <wrektjet> yep
[07:13] <DurtDiggler> I still don't understand what I'm supposed to do with all these files http://vnc-tight.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/vnc-tight/trunk/unix/xserver/hw/vnc/
[07:13] <wrektjet> Baatti, yep
[07:13] <Baatti> wrektjet, try turning that off, should solve your issue...
[07:13] <wrektjet> Baatti, is it a compiz thing?
[07:14] <Baatti> wrektjet, as far as solving it while keeping the 3d, I'm not sure how to fix, you'll have to ask others
[07:14] <syntax\> snek: i don't have ~/.font
[07:14] <wrektjet> i hear u. k
[07:14] <wrektjet> im gonna ask in the compiz room
[07:14] <Baatti> wrektjet, not sure if its 'compiz' specific problem, but its definitely on the forums. I had the same issue
[07:14] <L3dPlatedLinux> ok I have handbrake installed and was wondering  about the mp4 output and how to get this to a blank dvd
[07:14] <wrektjet> ok
[07:14] <Baatti> wrektjet, there are ways to get around it, I know friends who get it to work
[07:15] <wrektjet> i love the 3d settings, but i like to watch full screen ;( ill put it on the list of things to figure out
[07:15] <Baatti> :P
[07:15] <ottothecow> is there a way to set up my ubuntu box to share a connection to a router (basically have it behave like a cable modem)?
[07:15] <wrektjet> maybe someone will post a solution on the forums or docs
[07:16] <ottothecow> the ICS guide seems to have it doing DHCP and stuff, I am fine with my DDWRT router handling that
[07:16] <ghoti> ottothecow: I use a Ubunto box *as* my router (and then some (: )
[07:16] <Baatti> wrektjet, there is quite a lot on the forums already about it
[07:16] <ottothecow> ghoti: I am just trying to temporarily share my tethered blackberry while my cable is down from my laptop
[07:17] <Baatti> ottothecow, heh, might as well utilize that extra monthly fee for tethering :P
[07:17] <racecar56> i'm really aggravated, im trying to be able to use my "Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)" (as lspci says) in *box... what do i do? im tired of using gnome/kde JUST to get internet...
[07:17] <noogie> Snek & Isma: the error log is also telling me my index file does not exist when i clearly does
[07:17] <ismarc> ottothecow: quick answer, you'll need to configure IP Masquerading (NAT) and routing on your box
[07:18] <ismarc> noogie: sounds like your config files aren't being read correctly (or it's reading the wrong ones)
[07:18] <ottothecow> do I need to do that if it is already being done by my router?
[07:19] <ghoti> ottothecow: if you want your PC to share its connection, that's what a router *is*
[07:19] <noogie> Ismarc: ill keep checking them out, i should eventully get them right
[07:19] <ismarc> ottothecow: yeah, because the IP address space for your tethered 3G connection is going to be different than what your router hands out
[07:19] <bosco> !webcam
[07:19] <DurtDiggler> can somebody tell me what I'm supposed to do with these files http://vnc-tight.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/vnc-tight/trunk/unix/xserver/hw/vnc/
[07:19] <ottothecow> I got that, but I want to share it to my wireless router which is already set up with the rest my network
[07:19] <kopichu> hello can anyone help a total noob? i recently upgraded to jaunty and i noticed that the sound only goes on when i adjust the volume sliders.
[07:20] <cemc> !fglrx
[07:20] <kopichu> it starts out muted then i open volume control manager and adjust volume then the sound goes on
[07:20] <ottothecow> I'd like to plug my ethernet into my routers WAN port and be good to go
[07:20]  * AK_Dave is trying to understand his intel video and framerates. Same kernel, no compiz, can't figure out what is different. Jaunty UNR from thumbdrive, liveUSB, stock install, getting ~30fps in ppracer. Jaunty i386, same kernel, full install, ppracer gives ~20fps. Something in the full install is eating my graphics performance.
[07:21] <ismarc> ottothecow: You'll still need to set up NAT and routing on your computer so it knows what to do with the traffic on the ethernet port
[07:21] <ghoti> ottothecow: Right. And in order for that to work, your PC must perform IP masquerating (AKA DNAT) from your tether connection to the ethernet connection
[07:21] <ottothecow> so just follow the ICS guide?
[07:21] <ismarc> ghoti: you mean SNAT
[07:22] <kopichu> hello? anyone?
[07:22] <ghoti> ismarc: SNAT is one-to-one IP forwarding, masquerading is usually DNAT (one external IP to many internal)
[07:23] <Baatti> kopichu, what exactly is the issue? you state that you ahve to manually slide the volume... what other way are you trying that's not working?
[07:23] <kopichu> Baatti, well i try to just press mute then unmute. but sounds are still off
[07:23] <oshguy> hey
[07:24] <Baatti> kopichu, can you get sound if you use your volume slider?
[07:24] <kopichu> Baatti, its only when i move the sliders that they work
[07:24] <ismarc> ghoti: DNAT changes the destination, SNAT changes the source, full NAT involves both an SNAT and DNAT rule
[07:24] <racecar56> im trying to be able to use my "Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)" (as lspci says) in *box... what do i do? im tired of using gnome/kde JUST to get internet... using a 2 year old hp pavilion dv9000 cto
[07:24] <ismarc> DNAT would be for inbound connections
[07:24] <kopichu> i actually have it since hardy - i have managed to upgrade from hardy > intrepid > jaunty - all have the same issue
[07:25] <Baatti> kopichu, so what is it you are asking for assistance with? What would you like to be able to do?
[07:25] <ghoti> ismarc: I think your S and D are different from my S and D :)  I'm thinking Static/Dynamic NAT, not Source/Destination
[07:25] <kopichu> Baatti, ubuntu starts out muted - it would be nice if the sound stays on
[07:25] <ghoti> ismarc: in any case, the important thing for ottothecow is IP Masquerading :)
[07:25] <ismarc> ghoti: yeah, I was using DNAT and SNAT as iptables does :)
[07:25] <kopichu> even if i restart
[07:25] <Baatti> kopichu, ah, gotcha
[07:25] <ghoti> ismarc: I was speaking shorewall ;)
[07:26] <cemc> I just ran an upgrade from upgrade manager from intrepid -> jaunty, and it says that fglrx won't work with my card (radeon mobility x600)
[07:26] <Baatti> kopichu, ok well, unfortunately I'm a linux gnewb as well, but if you perhaps ask your question like that 'How can I get Ubuntu to boot with full volume', someone might be able to answer
[07:27] <lnb_> ok, it looks like fglrx is the culprit
[07:27] <kopichu> lol
[07:27] <kopichu> How can I get Ubuntu to boot with full volume?
[07:27] <Baatti> :P
[07:27] <lnb_> apt-get remove xserver-xorg-fglrx
[07:27] <lnb_> now it boots properly
[07:27] <ViRii[K]> So this may be a stupid question, but can you install Ubuntu on a Mac Pro?
[07:27] <asdsad> a.bg
[07:27] <ViRii[K]> Also, can you duel boot Mac OSX / Ubuntu on a Mac Pro?
[07:28] <elenita> yes, you ccan install ubuntu on a mac pro
[07:28] <DurtDiggler> can somebody tell me how to compile all these files http://vnc-tight.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/vnc-tight/trunk/unix/xserver/hw/vnc/
[07:28] <elenita> dual boot or via virtual machine
[07:29] <ottothecow> hmm
[07:29] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: I haven't looked at them at all yet, however, my guess is "svn checkout http://vnc-tight.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/vnc-tight trunk && cd trunk && ./configure && make && sudo make install"
[07:30] <ismarc> theoretically they should have build instructions somewhere
[07:30] <DurtDiggler> I jsut run that?
[07:31] <racecar56> im trying to be able to use my intel pro/wireless 3945abg in *box and CLI without having to login to GNOME... what do i do?
[07:31] <tuyenln> any one know about widestudio
[07:31] <tuyenln> ?
[07:31] <racecar56> no
[07:31] <tuyenln> thank you
[07:31] <Criten_> Hello
[07:32] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: I, uh, nope, that will fail.  Gimme a little bit and I'll get something that is more likely to work
[07:32] <bosco> what was the movie with someone who was sopposed to be bill gates and the college students that were creating the same thing but open source to microsoft media streamer??
[07:32] <fantomas> Éîó
[07:33] <Eveready> I saw a really good movie about the 2k bubble
[07:33] <digdeep> Jaunty: I am able to watch youtube, but there is no sound
[07:33] <DurtDiggler> I jsut keep getting different little bits and pieces of information from people
[07:33] <DurtDiggler> for the last 5 hours
[07:33] <racecar56> how do i use my wireless card in cli/*box?
[07:33] <DurtDiggler> everybody says something different too
[07:33] <Eveready> what you doin bosco
[07:34] <shrikant> hi
[07:34] <shrikant> how ru
[07:35] <hyt> exit
[07:35] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: run sudo apt-get build-dep tightvnc
[07:35] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: That should install a bunch of stuff and set up your build environment
[07:35] <racecar56> im going to come back in a few hours
[07:35] <DurtDiggler> k
[07:35] <ottothecow> connection is almost being shared...
[07:36] <DurtDiggler> I'm installed so much stuff
[07:36] <DurtDiggler> everybody has me install somethign different
[07:36] <zzxxzz> Just replaced WinXP with Ubuntu 9.04 on my notebook, but can't get networking to work reliably. I'm unable to get the wired and wireless info to remain saved after entering, and unsure where to begin. Anyone know how to get this fixed?
[07:36] <Dday> how do you play klotski?
[07:37] <ottothecow> now I have to figure out how to get dd-wrt to connect to it
[07:39] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: Once the build-deps are installed, make a scratch directory (mkdir scratch) cd to it, then execute "svn co https://vnc-tight.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/vnc-tight vnc-tight"
[07:39] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: That's gonna take a while, mine's still running.  As soon as mine's done I can tell you how to build it
[07:39] <bamball> zzxxzz: think they had the same problem with 8.10
[07:39] <kopichu> hello can anyone help me? ubuntu starts out muted always.
[07:40] <ismarc> actually, wait on that, I'm gonna figure what the structure is so you don't get literally everything
[07:41] <zzxxzz> bamball: There's no System, Admin, Network GUI in 9.04 and I don't have any idea how to configure my wired and wireless permanently.
[07:42] <azlon> I have a list of about 200 proxies but some are good and some aren't. is there a program that I can put all these proxies into and easily switch between them?
[07:43] <updog> so any Admins
[07:43] <wrektjet> dday r u asking seriously? why not try help > contents?
[07:43] <bamball> zzxxzz: maybe you need to modify the /etc configs? but i heard they'll hey replaced by the network manager..
[07:43] <ottothecow> I think my ICS  is working but I can't get it  to distribute to the rest of my neetwork
[07:44] <updog> anyone else having trouble with menus in 9.04
[07:44] <Dday> ahh okay ty
[07:44] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: ok, it's "svn co https://vnc-tight.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/vnc-tight/trunk vnc-tight"
[07:44] <DurtDiggler> oh I already started what you told me before
[07:45] <izmaelis> how to properly do upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 (server edition)?
[07:45] <updog> i just did an update it worked for me
[07:45] <Flannel> izmaelis: You have ot upgrade to 8.10 and then to 9.04
[07:45] <Flannel> !upgrade | izmaelis
[07:45] <amigamia> how much is this in US dollars? £12.80
[07:46] <zzxxzz> bamball: I can get a connection sometimes with both a wired and a wireless at the same time, but my CPU runs 100% and if I try to disable one of the connections I lose all access.
[07:46] <Milligan> Anyone else experiencing problems with 9.04 and flash ? All my youpor .. err, youtube videos are laggy and freeze up the browser.
[07:46] <amigamia> what is that british pounds? £12.80
[07:46] <amigamia> ?
[07:46] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: once it's done, you want to do cd vnc-tight/trunk/unix
[07:47] <bamball> zzxxzz: sorry dun think i can help, i thot it was the issue I had with 8.10 where the fixed IP address never really save
[07:47] <chazco> Hi... is it possible to stop the update manager opening when updates are available and just display a popup like the older versions?
[07:47] <updog> 12.80 pounds is 18.85 dollars
[07:47] <zzxxzz> amigamia: $18.72 today.
[07:48] <ismarc> DurtDiggerl: then, the build process is: autoconf && automake
[07:49] <updog> why the the pounds to dollars ??
[07:49] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: Then, make && sudo make install
[07:49] <kopichu> !iperf
[07:49] <ottothecow> w00t, its working
[07:49] <DurtDiggler> ismarc: I don't have that directory
[07:49] <DurtDiggler> only directory is orig
[07:49] <amigamia> wow
[07:49] <ismarc> oh, cd to orig
[07:49] <ottothecow> thanks ghoti
[07:49] <ismarc> is trunk there?
[07:49] <amigamia> that is the price for hostilng a LFS server
[07:49] <amigamia> i wanted to know
[07:49] <amigamia> so that is british sterling or something  i suppose.
[07:49] <ismarc> that's bizarre, they've got their svn mapping all screwed up
[07:50] <ismarc> you want to remove that whole directory you checked out and run the second command I gave you
[07:50] <DurtDiggler> ismarc: yes
[07:50] <zzxxzz> bamball: I guess it's back to WinXP or wait and see what 9.10 will do?
[07:50] <kopichu> can anyone help me? ubuntu always starts out muted. sound turns on only when i move volume sliders.
[07:50] <tamas> why does my java do not work in xubuntu, is it xfce a problem? because i have another laptop with ubuntu and java works in there.
[07:50] <travis_> hey, uh does anyone know how to format a USB flash drive such that osx can read it?  I tried fat32 and fat16 with the 'boot' flag set. is that the right flag in the first place? should I do fat32 + some other flag?
[07:51] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: After that second command, it's cd vnc-tight/unix
[07:51] <DurtDiggler> vnc-tight/orig/trunk/unix/vnc-unixsrc
[07:51] <DurtDiggler> something like that
[07:51] <DurtDiggler> ?
[07:51] <DurtDiggler> that's where I am
[07:51] <k1gwb2> I want to create a startup script to create a bridge (br0) including tap0 and eth0 for use with VirtualBox. I know all the commands to create the bridge. If I create a script and put it in /etc/rc.local does that automatically make it run at boot time? Or do I have to do something else too?
[07:51] <bamball> zzxxzz: is 8.10 not good enuff for u?
[07:52] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: ok, type xmkmf
[07:52] <DurtDiggler> ok
[07:52] <DurtDiggler> did that
[07:52] <ismarc> ok, now type make World
[07:52] <celthunder> i got compiz to work with the cube, and i set 4 desktops and 4 verticle whatever...anyway so i get my 16 desktops..but only the 4 on the first worskpace get the top panel...all workspaces get the bottom any ideas?
[07:53] <zzxxzz> bamball: I've got that on another system and am still trying to iron out the bugs in it so I hoped 9.04 would be an improvement.
[07:53] <DurtDiggler> ok
[07:53] <DurtDiggler> that's did a whole bunch of stuff
[07:53] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: Now, cd Xvnc && ./configure && make
[07:53] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: That'll do a ton more stuff
[07:54] <axel_s> hi, short question: I have a .deb file and like'd to install it.. but how? no success with apt
[07:54] <rohdef> when I right click the network manager and selects connection information. What is Broadcast Address and default route? I suppose Default route is what the windows world calls gateway, or am I wrong in that assumption?
[07:54] <DurtDiggler> where do these patched source files come in to all of this
[07:54] <lux_> Hello everybody
[07:54] <k1gwb2> axel_s: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[07:54] <rohdef> lux_, hello
[07:54] <lux_> Someone know a chanel for openoffice.org ?
[07:54] <axel_s> k1gwb2: thanks!
[07:54] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: Are there patches you need to apply, or has it been patched in trunk?
[07:54] <celthunder> lux #openoffice.org ?
[07:54] <lux_> yes
[07:55] <k1gwb2> axel_s: Or just double click it and it should open the package installer and ask for a password to install.
[07:55] <BezNalogov> Hello people. When I connect my external USB drive, it suddenly doesn't automatically mount anymore. Yesterday it still worked. But when I connect it now, nothing happens. Dmesg says this: [  909.860054] usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6
[07:55] <BezNalogov> [  909.916107] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[07:55] <BezNalogov> Anybody an idea what I can do to solve this?
[07:55] <DurtDiggler> my original question is what to do with these files http://vnc-tight.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/vnc-tight/trunk/unix/xserver/hw/vnc/
[07:55] <BezNalogov> I use jaunty btw
[07:55] <zzxxzz> bamball: I might add that all my files are on a third system running 7.04, which I can't upgrade due to another bug.
[07:55] <DurtDiggler> they are some kind of patch
[07:55] <DurtDiggler> to fix ubuntu
[07:55] <DurtDiggler> xorg
[07:55] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: Those aren't a patch, those are the source files for tightvnc
[07:55] <thepenguin37> hi. my vps server is ubuntu 7.10 gutsy. but there is no more updates for gutsy. how can upgrade it from ssh to 8.04 without loosing any data.
[07:55] <lux_> Thanks, celthunder :)
[07:55] <bamball> zzxxzz: are u running some services on that 7.04 box? what can't u upgrade?
[07:56] <DurtDiggler> read this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vnc4/+bug/260815
[07:56] <sireromano> ahola!!
[07:56] <DurtDiggler> I'm jsut doing what this thing says
[07:56] <celthunder> lux_, np
[07:56] <DurtDiggler> I have no clue what I'm doing
[07:56] <updog> anyone else having issues with the menu in 9.04
[07:56] <ismarc> thepenguin37: If you find a good way, say something.  I tried the old-school dist-upgrade method and it didn't work right, so I've got a server running gardy now
[07:57] <Matt1360`> Howdy, can I get a hand with a startup script (using rc.local)?
[07:57] <rohdef> in the Connection Information in the network manager. Is Default Route the same as the Gateway when I'm on win?
[07:58] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: ok, do this
[07:58] <zzxxzz> bamball: The upgrade files for 7.04 have been removed from the repositories, and I can't back up my files because of an unresolved USB bug which will not be resolved.
[07:58]  * Night0wl wonders how long to wait before asking for help...
[07:58] <rohdef> Matt1360`, try and ask and se if you get a reply
[07:58] <DurtDiggler> what about this thing I got going already
[07:58] <ismarc> completely remove all the directories and stuff we checked out
[07:58] <ismarc> Ctrl-C if you gotta
[07:58] <DurtDiggler> ok
[07:58] <noogie> Im back, i am not getting any errors in my virtual host error log, but im not being taken to the full directory path in the config file
[07:59] <bamball> zzxxzz: can't u transfer files via other means? network?
[07:59] <Matt1360`> Ooh, never mind.. I seemed to have fixed it... Almost asked a pointless question.
[07:59] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: Now, type "locate libvnc.so"
[07:59] <ismarc> noogie: Lack of errors is progress!
[07:59] <noogie> ismarc: thank god
[08:00] <noogie> ismarc: im not religious
[08:00] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: Record where it says the file is at.  Then type ls -l <where it said it was at>
[08:00] <ismarc> noogie: fight with Apache long enough and you will be
[08:00] <DurtDiggler> ismarc: I jsut deleted taht entire thing
[08:01] <zzxxzz> bamball: It would take forever, but that's what I've been trying to do a little at a time. I've got nearly 2 TB's to move.
[08:01] <ismarc> noogie: it should just be getting the directories pointed to the right place now (ie, putting the right paths in)
[08:01] <ottothecow> 3g -> blackberry -> bluetooth -> eeepc -> iptables -> dd-wrt -> rest of the network that can't tell that anything is different (except a lot slower than cable)
[08:01] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: The output from locate libvnc.so
[08:01] <DurtDiggler> I have an empty scratch directory
[08:01] <noogie> ismarc: awesome
[08:01] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: what does that say?
[08:01] <DurtDiggler> that's where I'm at
[08:01] <DurtDiggler> oh I know where that is
[08:01] <ottothecow> now if only I had a reason to be online
[08:01] <bamball> zzxxzz: maybe better off to invest in a gigabit switch?
[08:02] <DurtDiggler> do you want me to do there
[08:02] <DurtDiggler> go*
[08:02] <mjc1> attempting to resume an upgrade to 9.04 after having suspended in the middle. I wonder how this will go.
[08:02] <DarkJiwa> www.ubuntume.com for muslim edition
[08:02] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: nope, we want to type ls -l <path to libvnc.so> so we can see the user and group owner and the file permissiosn
[08:02] <DarkJiwa> www.ubuntume.com for muslim edition
[08:03] <DarkJiwa> www.ubuntume.com for muslim edition
[08:03] <chazco> Hi... on 9.04 I cant play OGM files with totem-gstreamer - usually only the sound plays, although sometimes video works as well. Totem-xine does work. Any ideas?
[08:03] <DarkJiwa> www.ubuntume.com for muslim edition
[08:03] <ottothecow> I'm almost getting 900kbps over 3g too
[08:03] <zzxxzz> bamball: Not easy to find hardware here, I'm a couple of clicks from Laos in Northern Thailand.
[08:03] <Flannel> DarkJiwa: Please don't spam here.
[08:03] <Flannel> DarkJiwa: Or anywhere, for that matter.  Also, don't advertise here.
[08:03] <DarkJiwa> ok
[08:03] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: put the line for libvnc.so in here so I can give you the correct next steps
[08:04] <amigamia> is there anyway that i can remove windows and use my wubi ubuntu system exclusively? i set it up on a 1u server and i want to remove windows and just use ubuntu.
[08:04] <DurtDiggler> locate never does anything for me
[08:04] <mjc> chazco: you don't have the plugin that enables h264 playback? not sure which one and I can't ask my apt currently
[08:04] <amigamia> can i use gparted and just kill the windows partition?
[08:04] <ottothecow> amigamia, you will want to do a real install
[08:04] <Flannel> amigamia: The best thing to do would be to move your wubi install to a "real" install.
[08:04] <DurtDiggler> this linux box is across the room
[08:04] <amigamia> ok
[08:04] <histo> amigamia: yeah but I think wubi is inside the windows part
[08:04] <DurtDiggler> so I have to keep walking back and forth
[08:04] <amigamia> yeah
[08:04] <amigamia> ok well i will just do a from scratch i suppose
[08:04] <histo> amigamia: the if you kill that you kill your ubuntu
[08:05] <Flannel> amigamia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20do%20I%20migrate%20to%20a%20real%20partition,%20and/or%20get%20rid%20of%20Windows%20entirely?
[08:05] <amigamia> i liked my config
[08:05] <DurtDiggler> locate doesnt do crap
[08:05] <histo> amigamia: you could copy your /home to somehting then it would save config
[08:05] <ottothecow> amigamia, you can save everything
[08:05] <bamball> zzxxzz: i see, sounds like usb is indeed the fastest option. But i would rather physically get the hd out and put it in an enclosure or something, then you can transfer all the files
[08:05] <DurtDiggler> way back in the days that command used to do something for me
[08:05] <ottothecow> amigamia, /home for sure and...maybe even /etc to keep the settings?
[08:05] <histo> amigamia: your home is where all your settings and files are. You could install ubuntu and be up in running in minutes.
[08:05] <DurtDiggler> but for the last 2 yars it does nothing for me
[08:05] <histo> !home | amigamia
[08:05] <chazco> mjc - Dont think they're encoded in h264... I had most codecs installed though. I tried to extract the OGM with ogmdemux and was able to play the video by itself... think its an OGM issue
[08:05] <amigamia> i will just do it from scartch i had a problem with the swap file anyway.
[08:05] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: Do sudo updatedb && local libvnc.so |
[08:05] <histo> amigamia: kk.
[08:06] <histo> ismarc: whats the last | for?
[08:06] <amigamia> i will just do it with 9.04 this time from scratch. thanks
[08:06] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: err, locate libvnc.so, not local
[08:06] <GNU\colossus> what happened to Tracker Desktop Search in Ubuntu 9.04?
[08:06] <ismarc> histo: I failed at typing
[08:06] <ottothecow> amigamia, yeah, wubi has funny problems like that...but definately save your /home...that is one of the beauties of linuxx
[08:06] <DurtDiggler> I did that
[08:06] <zzxxzz> BezNalogov: Have you looked in /media with the external device unmounted? A hidden file named .hal-mtab might remain, also a folder with the device label, both of which should not exist.
[08:06] <DurtDiggler> and it did nothing
[08:06] <DurtDiggler> it doesnt do anything anymore
[08:06] <ismarc> histo: Using some new non-command line irc client
[08:06] <DurtDiggler> doesnt locate crap
[08:06] <amigamia> well wubi is magnificent for allowing windows people to learn about soemthing real anyway
[08:06] <Innxis> Hello! I have a problem with my Ubuntu 9.04. I usually play a game called ATITD. The game works perfect, but sometimes, the PC frozes for 10-15 sec, going from cpu 70%-65% to 0%, then returning back with no errors. Can someone tell me what is causing this annying problem? (I usualy keep this programs open when I play the game: Pidgin, Songbird, Firefox, AWN and Conky.)
[08:06] <histo> amigamia: when you do install I recomend doing about 10g for / and use the rest of your drive for /home
[08:06] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: locate doesn't do anything after you typed sudo updatedb?
[08:06] <histo> amigamia: with the exception of a few gigs for swap.
[08:07] <histo> amigamia: that way if you ever want to reinstall or switch distros you just reload / and leave your /home alone.
[08:07] <ottothecow> amigamia, yeah, wubi is cool, but if you want to ditch windows and use it as a server, you will need a real install
[08:07] <histo> DurtDiggler: remove the | off the end of the comand
[08:07] <DurtDiggler> does nothing
[08:07] <ottothecow> but luckily, a real  install is almost as easy as a wubi install
[08:08] <chazco> Hi... on 9.04 I cant play OGM files with totem-gstreamer - usually only the sound plays, although sometimes video works as well. Totem-xine does work. Any ideas?
[08:08] <DurtDiggler> I'll just find the fricken file in the file manager
[08:08] <amigamia> i will just start from scratch thanks
[08:08] <amigamia> that is the best thing to do
[08:08] <BezNalogov> I will check on that zzxxzz
[08:08] <zzxxzz> bamball: For the time being I'm not too interested in upgrading from 7.04 as I'm having more problems with 8.10 and 9.04 so it's my most reliable OS at the moment.
[08:08] <jigp> is bin/bash shell great?
[08:09] <amigamia> these eracks are really noisy with all these fans geez.
[08:09] <amigamia> i looked at blades on ebay and they are cheap but you need to buy a bunch of other stuff to make them work
[08:09] <zzxxzz> jigp: Yes it is.
[08:10] <jigp> hello is bin/bash nice to use? or there is super shell for that?
[08:10] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: try this: "wget ftp://linvinus.ru/forum/vnc/libvnc.so" && sudo cp libvnc.so /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/. && sudo chown root:root /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libvnc.so && chmod 644 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libvnc.so
[08:10] <coopster> jigp: zsh is one of the newer ones, but bash is good enough for most reasons
[08:10] <jigp> zzxxzz : im not particular of shell user.im going to add my sister
[08:10] <BezNalogov> zzxxzz: I did find that .hal-mtab file and I removed it. But when the device still doesn't mount when I plug it in again
[08:10] <jigp> zzxxzz coopster : thanks
[08:10] <ismarc> coopster: I've been trying to play around with zsh, there's some oddness to it you wouldn't expect
[08:11] <DurtDiggler> it's in usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/
[08:11] <coopster> Is there a way to convert an Ubuntu installation to an encrypted root+swap without re-installing?  I.E. boot off of a live cd and convert it?
[08:11] <zzxxzz> BezNalogov: Did you also see a directory with the same name as the device name?
[08:11] <Innxis> Hello! I have a problem with my Ubuntu 9.04. I usually play a game called ATITD. The game works perfect, but sometimes, the PC frozes for 10-15 sec, going from cpu 70%-65% to 0%, then returning back with no errors. Can someone tell me what is causing this annying problem? (I usualy keep this programs open when I play the game: Pidgin, Songbird, Firefox, AWN and Conky.)
[08:11] <DurtDiggler> dude your throwing so many different commands at me
[08:11] <thelordmortis> if i'm running rails on ubuntu what's the best mail package to install if i want to SEND mail only? (don't need to recieve)
[08:11] <BezNalogov> zzxxzz: Yes, that directory wasn't there
[08:11] <coopster> ismarc: It's usually pretty standard, what weird things?
[08:12] <coopster> thelordmortis: sendmail ?
[08:12] <DurtDiggler> what happened to the others
[08:13] <zzxxzz> BezNalogov: My device was named Kingston, and when I had a similar problem I had several directories named Kingston{with an appendage) that I had to delete also
[08:13] <BezNalogov> zzxxzz: I don't have them, only cdrom0 and a symlink called cdrom to cdrom0
[08:13] <v3gpuff> are there any good webkit based browsers for ubuntu?
[08:13] <ismarc> coopster: mainly problems with going from sh to zsh, rather than having zsh as the default shell
[08:13] <safruhani> v3gpuff: midori
[08:14] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: The last large command I gave you should do everything you need
[08:14] <v3gpuff> safruhani, thanks :) will check out
[08:14] <safruhani> v3gpuff: ;)
[08:14] <DurtDiggler> haha
[08:15] <DurtDiggler> what are we doing anyways
[08:15] <zzxxzz> BezNalogov: A reboot might clear the problem. I think /dev also has something that may need to be removed, but can't remember.
[08:16] <BezNalogov> ok, then I will reboot as soon as I can, if the problem persists I will be back then. Thanks so far
[08:16] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: If you have the problem listed in the bug, we're applying a patched shared library that will adjust the way noxdamage is set when you're connected to the box via a vnc connection.  The change makes the x server properly report changed areas so that vnc can determine what updates need to be fetched and drawn
[08:16] <ViRii^Ubuntu> So how does Wine work? I have it installed, configured a new windows application in it but its not showing up in my Applications section of Wine.
[08:16] <ViRii^Ubuntu> Any ideas?
[08:16] <Innxis> Still none has an ideea about my problem?
[08:17] <DurtDiggler> I can that command
[08:17] <DurtDiggler> I ran that command
[08:17] <DurtDiggler> I don't think it worked right
[08:17] <nnutter> ViRii^Ubuntu: It might just be because GNOME's menu hasn't refreshed. I don't really know otherwise.
[08:17] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: Ok, now you should just have to restart your XServer and you'll be good to go
[08:17] <Navneet> Hello there!
[08:17] <DurtDiggler> I ran it
[08:18] <DurtDiggler> and it just left me at a > prompt
[08:18] <DurtDiggler> doesnt something else have to happen
[08:18] <DurtDiggler> I can't just end it like that can i
[08:18] <Navneet> how to repair mozilla firefox on ubuntu?
[08:18] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: Close everything but the command prompt you have
[08:18] <sireromano> ????
[08:18] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: and then run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:18] <DurtDiggler> I don't think that command worked right
[08:19] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: What did it say?
[08:19] <uncmar> Broadcom 4318 card showing up as 2 identical devices in nm-applet
[08:19] <DurtDiggler> nothing
[08:19] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: If it said nothing, it worked
[08:19] <DurtDiggler> jsut took me to another line
[08:19] <DurtDiggler> >
[08:19] <Innxis> Hello! I have a problem with my Ubuntu 9.04. I usually play a game called ATITD. The game works perfect, but sometimes, the PC frozes for 10-15 sec, going from cpu 70%-65% to 0%, then returning back with no errors. Can someone tell me what is causing this annying problem? (I usualy keep this programs open when I play the game: Pidgin, Songbird, Firefox, AWN and Conky.)
[08:19] <DurtDiggler> >
[08:19] <DurtDiggler> >
[08:19] <xonev> how does GDM work in Ubuntu? what scripts are run after logging in?
[08:19] <FloodBot3> DurtDiggler: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:19] <ViRii^Ubuntu> nnutter: How do you refresh the menu?
[08:19] <Yopu> anyone know how to disable the mouse-wheel workspace switcher
[08:19] <DurtDiggler> so I ctrl c out of it
[08:20] <DurtDiggler> so I had to ctrl c out of it
[08:20] <Navneet> plz help me in how to repair mozilla firefox on ubuntu?
[08:20] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: remove all ' and " marks from the command
[08:20] <chazco> Hi... on 9.04 I cant play OGM files with totem-gstreamer - usually only the sound plays, although sometimes video works as well. Totem-xine does work. Any ideas?
[08:20] <DurtDiggler> it acked like it was missing one
[08:20] <Navneet> plz help me in
[08:20] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: Yes it did, and none are necessary, so we can just remove them all
[08:21] <Innxis> As an example it happend 30 seconds ago again, and I had open only: Firefox, IRC, Songbird and Pidgin, no game open. Please help!  You can kill the panel too but I don't know exact name.
[08:21] <DurtDiggler> you forgot it at the beginning of the url
[08:22] <sireromano> inxis-im not sure whats your cpu fhz
[08:22] <Navneet> plz help me in
[08:22] <Navneet> plz help me in
[08:22] <Navneet> plz help me in how to repair mozilla firefox on ubuntu?
[08:22] <Innxis> Intel Pentium 4 HT, 3,06
[08:23] <LinkPie> Whats wrong with it?
[08:23] <ViRii[K]> nnutter: Hm, didn't work. Maybe I didn't install the program right
[08:23] <fez> Navneet, go to aptitude package manager, search for firefox, choose reinstall
[08:23] <DurtDiggler> I'm trying to restart kdm now
[08:23] <DurtDiggler> it's stuck at checking battery state
[08:23] <nnutter> ViRii[K]: I dunno, sorry.
[08:23] <DurtDiggler> I don't konw what battery it's referring to
[08:24] <DurtDiggler> I'm rebooting this thing
[08:24] <Innxis> But I had a same problem in Ubuntu 8.10, but the diference is that there was fully crashing and not so ofter, while in 9.04 is froozing for 10-15 sec and more often.
[08:24] <sireromano> innixis looking
[08:25] <Innxis> It happened again, same applications
[08:26]  * Innxis is gonna punch the PC
[08:26] <sireromano> Songbird is that gnome?
[08:26] <WIGGMPk> It helps Innxis
[08:26] <sireromano> never used  just trying to help him
[08:27] <Innxis> It seems like when it frozez, AWN is still active, but if I click on something, it frozes
[08:27] <les> sireromano: nothing to do with gnome
[08:27] <sireromano> ok
[08:27] <Innxis> But, if I click on desktop, gnome pannel of icon nothing happens
[08:27] <sireromano> im a noob tring to learn
[08:28] <DurtDiggler> still failing to load module "vnc"
[08:28] <mrynit> i am downloading packages for the upgrade to 9.04. i need to stop and shutdown before it completes. is there a safe way to do this?
[08:28] <mos71> no!
[08:29] <DurtDiggler> I notice that everytime it tries to load vnc in the logs it shows a path to libvnc.so that is not exactly correct
[08:29] <mos71> do not stop the upgrade
[08:29] <sireromano> i think it is conflicking with the Desktop Environment
[08:29] <LinkPie> Would ctrl+C work?
[08:29] <mrynit> lib is closing i have to leave
[08:29] <mrynit> in gui
[08:29] <LinkPie> if he's still at the package downloading stage
[08:29] <LinkPie> without installing
[08:29]  * Innxis is turning off AWN and Overclockes the CPU at 100%
[08:29] <durt> anybody get boot logging to work?
[08:30] <mrynit> 1,000 packages to go with 30 min left
[08:30] <borateen> audio playback works fine in totem but not in amarok or rythm box. problem started after upgrade to jaunty. any help?
[08:30] <DurtDiggler> usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libvnc.so
[08:30] <mrynit> ...there should be a pause feature
[08:30] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: what does the line before failed to load say?
[08:30] <DurtDiggler> usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libvnc.so
[08:30] <sireromano> you are over clocking it??
[08:30] <DurtDiggler> why is it written like that
[08:31] <DurtDiggler> why is there //
[08:31] <Innxis> I am tring to do it now
[08:31] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: It doesn't matter, what does the line above it say?
[08:31] <Innxis> Ok, let's see
[08:31] <DurtDiggler> something about ABI
[08:31] <sireromano> were you doing that before?
[08:32] <DurtDiggler> it's so impossible for me to to remember the whole line
[08:32] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: It should give an error as to WHY it failed
[08:32] <DurtDiggler> and walk back to this comptuer
[08:32] <Innxis> While plaing the game the CPU was at 70%
[08:32] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: Something like "undefined symbol: AutoBots"
[08:32] <DurtDiggler> hold on
[08:32] <DurtDiggler> I'm gonna give you the whole log
[08:32] <sireromano> did you do over clocking before you did any gaming?
[08:33] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[08:33] <Innxis> no
[08:33] <sireromano> Autobot, a faction of sentient robots from the planet Cybertron
[08:33] <histo> !paste | DurtDiggler
[08:33] <Fersure> I'm having a problem with my desktop. I stopped the dbus-daemon and it caused the system to basically crash. Now when I try booting into ubuntu I have to go into recovery mode and manually start dbus. Otherwise it doesn't start and my keyboard and mouse won't work. I've tried reinstalling from the 'root' terminal in recovery mode. Still nothing.
[08:33] <histo> Fersure: how did you stop dbus
[08:34] <Fersure> System->Administration->Services
[08:34] <ismarc> sireromano: I think not having AutoBots properly defined is a good enough reason to fail loading a module
[08:34] <Innxis> sireromano: I make some overcloacking for 10-20 min and I tell you the results.
[08:34] <kino> I got the following error while installing ubuntu RESIZE OPERATION FAILURE, an error ocurred while writing the changes to the storage devices. The resize operation has been aborted. pls help, aht should i do?
[08:34] <sireromano> i thought it was funny
[08:34] <Fersure> didn't realise ubuntu completely relied on it. and I certainly didn't realise that it would stop it from running at system startup
[08:34] <ActionParsnip1> Fersure: this may help: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/207157
[08:35] <mrynit> so no safe way to stop the upgrade
[08:35] <simple> hey, i have a few issues, i'm trying to use sshfs to connect to a remote folder however i'm getting consistant permission denied errors
[08:35] <simple> i was uid 1001 before and i'm not 1000
[08:35] <simple> so i'm mounting it with -o uid=1000,gid=1000
[08:35] <Flannel> mrynit: When you're downloading, yes.  you can stop it.
[08:35] <simple> however it still fails
[08:35] <Flannel> mrynit: just ctrl-c
[08:35] <DurtDiggler> http://pastebin.com/d7e9d92ad
[08:35] <Flannel> mrynit: Don't do that if we're past the download stage though.
[08:35] <simple> so yeah, i'm kind of stuffed as to how to do it
[08:36] <ActionParsnip1> simple: why not use names instead of IDs
[08:36] <DurtDiggler> ismarc: there's the part of the log
[08:36] <RoninBaka> how can I add a key for a repo from the comand line.. using the software sources it doesn't add the key.. it just blinks and does nothing
[08:37] <simple> ActionParsnip1, not sure how to
[08:37] <ActionParsnip1> RoninBaka: sudo apt-key add <key file>
[08:37] <mrynit> Flannel, will i have to re download all the packages?
[08:37] <ActionParsnip1> simple: just replace 1000 with a valid username
[08:37] <DurtDiggler> module ABI major version (1) doesn't match the server's version (2)
[08:37] <simple> ok, i'm trying this
[08:37] <qarl1> What are thoughts on 9.04? Worth the upgrade?
[08:38] <simple> fusermount: failed to open /etc/fuse.conf: Permission denied
[08:38] <ActionParsnip1> qarl1: are you happy with what you have?
[08:38] <simple> fusermount: failed to access mountpoint /home/alex/sshfs/rsync: Permission denied
[08:38] <simple> i'm doing this on 9.04
[08:38] <DurtDiggler> Failed to load module "vnc" (module requirement mismatch, 0)
[08:38] <daftykins> so far i'd rather fresh install to it than upgrade from some peoples experiences qarl1 , but yeah it rocks
[08:38] <qarl1> ActionParsnip1: yes, minus a few rough edges
[08:38] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: Yup, that looks unhappy.  Is that the same error it was getting before?
[08:38] <syntax\> any good suggestions on a blacktheme, a theme that looks alike slickness black. but is compatible with ubuntu?
[08:38] <sacarlson> I can't seem to update my laptop from 7.04 to 8.04 it says Your system is up-to-date
[08:38] <DurtDiggler> not sure
[08:38] <DurtDiggler> I don't think so
[08:38] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: The old log file should be X.org.0 or something
[08:38] <ActionParsnip1> qarl1: you could us a usb stick to test, then commit to a full upgrade once you are happy
[08:39] <Flannel> mrynit: No, it'll keep the ones you've already finished, and pick up where you left off.
[08:39] <RoninBaka> so is there a way to add a key from the command line?
[08:39] <qarl1> on 9.04: is netbook support good? in particular, wireless?
[08:39] <kthakore> after doing an apt-get upgrade I can't mount usb sticks any more I get this error Error org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.UnknownFailure
[08:39] <ActionParsnip1> simple is the folder owned by you?
[08:39] <simple> fuse: invalid parameter in option `uid=alex'
[08:39] <simple> yes
[08:39] <ActionParsnip1> simple: ls -l /home/alex/sshfs/rsync
[08:39] <simple> permission denied
[08:40] <kino> i got this message while installing ubuntu RESIZE OPERATION FAILURE what should I do????? please help me
[08:40] <sacarlson> opps from 7.1 to 8.04 can't upgrade
[08:40] <simple> i do own the directory
[08:40] <simple> i made it
[08:40] <ActionParsnip1> simple: this may be your issue eh
[08:40] <simple> mmm?
[08:40] <ActionParsnip1> simple: sudo -i; ls -l /home/alex/sshfs/rsync; exit
[08:40] <durt> anybody know how to get boot logging to work?
[08:40] <simple> ActionParsnip1, root can't read it
[08:40] <simple> but once i demount it it runs perfectly
[08:40] <ActionParsnip1> durt: its on by default, read dmesg
[08:41] <ttwj> wow, 1475 users
[08:41] <DurtDiggler> ismarc: http://pastebin.com/d7ed85b04
[08:41] <durt> ActionParsnip1, dmesg is missing userspace boot messages
[08:41] <Fersure> ActionParsnip1: I'll try that. Thanks
[08:41] <kino> i got this message while installing ubuntu RESIZE OPERATION FAILURE what should I do????? please help me
[08:41] <ActionParsnip1> simple: i'd look at maybe creating a new mount point as user and seeing if it flys
[08:41] <daftykins> kino try defragmenting in Windows then trying again
[08:42] <simple> ActionParsnip1, same error every time
[08:42] <simple> its new in 9.04
[08:42] <ActionParsnip1> simple: you could also try sudo chmod and sudo chown-ing the mount point
[08:42] <wthbr> Sux server..
[08:42] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: Awesome
[08:42] <DurtDiggler> now I hvae more of a problem
[08:42] <kino> daftykins: just run defragmenter? that's it?
[08:42] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: So, here's where we're at
[08:42] <ActionParsnip1> wthbr: do you have a support question?
[08:42] <daftykins> yeah kino
[08:42] <Kartagis> in which order are fonts used? /usr/share/fonts then .fonts or the other way around?
[08:42] <ActionParsnip1> thought not
[08:42] <Jaso1> hi
[08:42] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: The error we're getting right now is basically saying the Binary Interface has changed and it won't work
[08:42] <kino> daftykins, thanx
[08:43] <sacarlson> my end of life Ubuntu 7.1 can't be upgraded?  it says up-to-date in update manager
[08:43] <syntax\> any good suggestions on a blacktheme, a theme that looks alike slickness black. but is compatible with ubuntu?
[08:43] <Jaso1> ubuntu is great , but why are all of the repositories old outdated buggy software
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> simple: if you can't ls -l the folder, you have issues
[08:43] <simple> i can the minute i unmount it
[08:43] <simple> but whilst its mounted it just won't read
[08:43] <Flannel> sacarlson: 7.10 recently went out of support (EOL), you'll have to do a few extra steps to get to 8.04
[08:43] <DurtDiggler> how do I fix it
[08:43] <Flannel> !upgrade | sacarlson
[08:43] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: Which would require rebuilding the module against the Xorg headers for the version you have installed
[08:43] <histo> Jaso1: what do you mean?
[08:44] <DurtDiggler> what did I install
[08:44] <histo> Jaso1: which version of ubuntu are you running and what is outdated?
[08:44] <DurtDiggler> the patched xorg?
[08:44] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: The build process is absolutely bizarre
[08:44] <Flannel> Jaso1: the repos get frozen a few months before release.  So the software generally won't ever be newer than a few months at the time of release.
[08:44] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: You installed a patched version of libvnc
[08:44] <ActionParsnip1> Jaso1: its not, you can install anything of any version you want on it if you can get a repo or compile
[08:44] <Jaso1> jaunty, all of the software in the repos like vuze, tor, anything useful
[08:44] <DurtDiggler> ok
[08:44] <DurtDiggler> so what will make this work
[08:44] <lianimator> If i have a ext2 parti, can I use it as ext3?
[08:44] <ActionParsnip1> Jaso1: tor has been removed
[08:45] <ActionParsnip1> !tor | Jaso1
[08:45] <sacarlson> I did look there and followed maybe there is a missing step like setting a repository to start
[08:45] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: Is the machine you're running on x86, or 64 bit?
[08:45] <histo> Jaso1: they aren't out of date there is a release cycle of every 6 months for ubuntu.
[08:45] <DurtDiggler> x86
[08:45] <histo> Jaso1: so in the mena time after feature freeze/ relase.  The software ages. You can still install packages from source on your own.
[08:45] <Jaso1> ActionParsnip1: why is tor removed?
[08:45] <ActionParsnip1> !info vuze jaunty
[08:46] <ActionParsnip1> Jaso1: due to people abusing anonimity to be douchebags
[08:46] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: k..gimme a bit, I'll see what I can do for you..in the meantime, can you give me the version of xserver-xorg (type dpkg -l xserver-xorg)
[08:46] <DurtDiggler> are you sure this is what I was supposed to do to it
[08:46] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: yeah
[08:46] <borateen> I have no audio in Rhythmbox or Amarok after Jaunty upgrade. Help?
[08:46] <Jaso1> histo: thanks but when competing with windows this compile from source becomes a problem the newest releases are always binary packaged
[08:46] <ActionParsnip1> !info vuze
[08:46] <histo> borateen: try killall pulseaudio
[08:46] <Corey33093> Hi
[08:47] <Flannel> Jaso1: This discussion isn't really on topic for this channel (#ubuntu is for support), if you'd like to discuss it, can I suggest you move to #ubuntu-offtopic?  Thanks
[08:47] <histo> Jaso1: some packages have debs availible for debian or ubuntu already.  Check their websites. There is also the ppa, getdeb.net etc... that keep software mroe up to date. But keep in mind if it aint broke don't fix it.
[08:47] <DurtDiggler> 1:7.4~5
[08:47] <ismarc> histo: Or you can be daring and if it ain't broke, install stuff till it is
[08:47] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: kk, I'll see about getting something for you
[08:48] <Corey33093> I Need Help
[08:48] <Corey33093> Any Free To Help Me?
[08:48] <durt> !ask Corey33093
[08:48] <simple> whats your issue Corey33093
[08:48] <histo> !ask | Corey33093
[08:48] <Corey33093> Okay..Give me A Sec to Think About What Im Going To Write
[08:49] <syntax\> anyone using / or is a fan of dark / black themes here
[08:49] <disappearedng> Hey everyone
[08:49] <disappearedng> Any1 here used ssh -D for "proxy"ing before?
[08:49] <Innxis> sireromano: All works fine without AWN. Overclocked with: Firefox - Youtube 10 min steming,  IRC, ATITD - All time playing, Pidgin with converstations and Songbird on mute.
[08:50] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: I've got ~92 packages to install before I can build this, so it may be a little bit
[08:50] <carmony> Question: I have an enormous tgz file (64GB) that I need to decompress and untar. When I do tar -xzf it works, but it tanks my server's CPU and I/O causing the rest of the server to grind to a halt. Is there a way I can throttle or limit it so it won't consume all the server's resources?
[08:50] <durt> syntax\, not sure what / is but I use dusk in XFCE
[08:50] <T-Hawk> hey ppl... yesterday amavis started sending me updates every 3 hours like this: bayes: synced databases from journal in 0 seconds: 298 unique entries (717 total entries)
[08:50] <DurtDiggler> you have to build something
[08:50] <syntax\> durt: im on gnome xD
[08:50] <histo> !checkinstall > Jaso1
[08:51] <Innxis> sireromano: I just think I know which is the problem with AWN. I have a applet which monitores my CPU. Maybe that is not that much compatible with my CPU.
[08:51] <T-Hawk> i've looked in the cron job, and in amavisd-new-cronjob and it should pipe stdout to /dev/null, anybody know how i can get rid of these messages?
[08:51] <Corey33093> Okay I Installed The Release Candidate And It Asked Me To Update And When I Restarted..My Graphics Card Drivers Dont Work.,.And I Can Enable My Visual Effects..
[08:51] <bluepencil> hi guys
[08:51] <Corey33093> Cant*
[08:51] <histo> Corey33093: what type of card?
[08:51] <sugi> whats the command to see the partition of your computer?  fdisk -i or something?
[08:51] <histo> sugi: sudo fdisk -l
[08:51] <bluepencil> does anyone know how to change the HOST name on a 9.4 machine? 8.4 used to be straight forward
[08:51] <fez> Capitalizing Every Word In A Sentence Looks Stupid
[08:51] <Corey33093> Its A GM965 Intel Intigrated
[08:51] <lopol> can anyone help me with this...?  E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:51] <lopol> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[08:52] <Corey33093> Bite Me.. Let's see the results in 10 min.
[08:52] <Corey33093> Idc..
[08:52] <sugi> histo: hahah, i was close. thank you sir
[08:52] <fez> sugi, there are several such commands, gparted is one
[08:52] <lopol> but where do i type that command?
[08:52] <bamball> carmony: wonder if it helps if u renice the process to a lower priority
[08:52] <histo> sugi: np just so you know you can find documentation for commands using man.  So man fdisk would show you all the options
[08:52] <ismarc> carmony: you can try zcat > output.tar
[08:53] <histo> lopol: in a terminal. Applications > Accessories > terminal
[08:53] <paranoid_ndroid> hi. I've tried to install ubuntu on a external USB HDD but it was meant for another computer. Now I get a error 21 when I try to boot on this computer without the external drive connected. what do I do?
[08:53] <Corey33093> Anyone Know What Would Cause That?
[08:53] <bluepencil> Anyone know how to change a 9.4 host name? I notice that in 8.4 it was just a GUI option.
[08:53] <carmony> whats zcat?
[08:53] <histo> Corey33093: there are issues with the intel drivers right now. I'm not sure what the fix is perhaps someone else may know.
[08:53] <Corey33093> Okay..
[08:53] <ActionParsnip1> !hostname > bluepencil
[08:54] <ismarc> carmony: it's like cat, but for gzipped files, is incremental, meaning it extracts data as it determines it needs to
[08:54] <sugi> fez: histo: I need a bit more help. I am reinstalling my grub because it has failed to find my ubuntu partition.  (thats becasue i installed windows) how do i see a list of partition and their hd# number?  im at the setup of the *sudo grub* from a livecd to help reinstall my grub menu.  Let me know if I am not being clear enougyh
[08:54] <ismarc> carmony: typically nicer than gunzip or tar -xf
[08:54] <sireromano> ok
[08:54] <bluepencil> Thanks! :)
[08:54] <carmony> ok
[08:54] <histo> carmony: I know theres a way to do it I belive you need to use the nice command let me check something
[08:55] <RoninBaka> whats the command to run software sources from cli?
[08:56] <histo> RoninBaka: you can use aptitude or apt-get
[08:56] <Corey33093> Ohh And fez bite me
[08:56] <histo> !apt > RoninBaka
[08:56] <sixnonep>  Hi Guys, just done an upgrade on Ubuntu 9.04, this included a Firefox upgrade. Firefox now opens, but with a blank screen. I've opened with the terminal, no crashes reported.
[08:56] <generalsnus> Hi guys! i'm uploading about 15-20 videos each day for my students, they are posted on a webpage embedded + a dl link. It gets quite tendious to generate new entries/links as these: http://paste2.org/p/194279  the videos are named like this: (todays date/1-6/1-6) "290409_1_1.wmv" the only variables during a day are the 2 last numbers and video title(20 uniqe
[08:56] <generalsnus> Is there a easier way to make/generate new links.. a way to almost automate this job?
[08:56] <lopol> HISTO: when i type this on terminal window, it says that "dkpg:requested operation requires superuser privilege"
[08:57] <histo> generalsnus: you could make a script to do everything for you.
[08:57] <histo> lopol: you have to use sudo in front of it.
[08:57] <histo> lopol: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:57] <sugi> I am reinstalling my grub because it has failed to find my ubuntu partition.  (thats becasue i installed windows) how do i see a list of partition and their hd# number?  im at the setup of the *sudo grub* from a livecd to help reinstall my grub menu.  Let me know if I am not being clear enougyh
[08:57] <sireromano> sorry innxis , i never used that before,i do all my settings in the bios
[08:58] <paul68> !grub|sugi
[08:58] <Corey33093> Some one Tell Him How To Get To Gparted And Set His Ubuntu Partition Lfages To Boot
[08:58] <Innxis> sireromano: It really seems that the AWN CPU Monitor really makes my OS instable.
[08:58] <Corey33093> Flags*
[08:59] <sugi> paul68: thanks paul, i am lookign through the websites now
[08:59] <histo> carmony: yeah use the nice command something like nice -n 19 tar -zxvf   blah.tar.gz   would run it at the lowest priority
[08:59] <Innxis> sireromano:  Now I have awn without that applet and it's all extremly smmoth
[08:59] <paul68> sugi: your welcome
[08:59] <histo> carmony: the levels are -20 being the highest to 19 being the lowest
[08:59] <carmony> awesome, thanks histo
[08:59] <sireromano> Great!!!!
[08:59] <histo> carmony: if its already running you can edit it on the fly with renice
[09:00] <sireromano> conflicktion
[09:00] <sireromano> heehee
[09:00] <lopol> HISTO: now it workwed ok, thanks for the help!
[09:00] <histo> lopol: np
[09:00] <sixnonep>  Hi Guys, just done an upgrade on Ubuntu 9.04, this included a Firefox upgrade. Firefox now opens, but with a blank screen. I've opened with the terminal, no crashes reported. Any ideas???
[09:01] <DurtDiggler> ismark I gotta do something
[09:01] <activity_coder> exit
[09:01] <cybersplice_> sixnonep: Remove and reinstall?
[09:01] <activity_coder> :D
[09:01] <histo> sixnonep: killall firefox and try again
[09:01] <DurtDiggler> I'll be back in a little while
[09:01] <sixnonep> Histo: done.
[09:01] <DurtDiggler> actually n/m
[09:01] <DurtDiggler> brb
[09:01] <histo> sixnonep: I meant run the command killall firefox in a terminal then try again.
[09:01] <amigamia> my god the blades cost like 30 dollars but the  Blade Chassis are like thousands!
[09:02] <dabbill8900> I moved some partitions with gparted now I can't get vista to boot. Just goes to starting....
[09:02] <sixnonep> histo: Thanks, works.
[09:02] <histo> !ot | amigamia
[09:02] <amigamia> forget about vista
[09:02] <amigamia> it is on topic histo
[09:02] <amigamia> it is for my ubuntu servers
[09:03] <dabbill8900> I would love to but still need windows for a few features on my notebook I can't get working in linux
[09:03] <paul68> !enter |amigamia
[09:03] <generalsnus> histo: Sorry for late reply: i could script it.. if i knew how :P and if i had the time to start learning how to script.. for this singel purpose
[09:03] <DurtDiggler> ismarc: just let me know when your done doing whatever you gotta do
[09:04] <Masculism> hmm
[09:04] <DurtDiggler> Ill be in the other room fixing my raid array
[09:04] <Masculism> hmm
[09:05] <Masculism> hmm
[09:05] <MaWaLe> hi people
[09:05] <Masculism> hmm
[09:05] <JECHO> hey all
[09:05] <dabbill8900> Vista is on sda2 and I have grub set to (hd0,1)
[09:05] <Masculism> hmm
[09:05] <MaWaLe> what's more advised to use as MTA : postfix or exim4?
[09:05] <sugi> MaWaLe: welcome fellow-penguin user
[09:05] <MaWaLe> sugi: thx :)
[09:06] <Masculism> penguins?
[09:06]  * Masculism hmm's some more
[09:06] <paul68> !ask|Masculism
[09:06] <Masculism> ubottu, where's the ubuntu off topic?
[09:06] <sugi> MaWaLe: how long have you been using unix-OS? *linux or ubuntu?*
[09:07] <paul68> !ot|masculism
[09:07] <MaWaLe> sugi: since i was 18 :)
[09:07] <Masculism> thanks
[09:07] <ubuntistas> Iam in jaunty and when update appeared it didn't show me the orange icon in the panel but the update manager any clue?
[09:07] <JECHO> ubuntuistas: what?
[09:07] <Kartagis> in which order are fonts used? /usr/share/fonts then .fonts or the other way around?
[09:08] <steveccc> has anyone upgraded their laptop disk from a 5400rpm drive to a 7200rpm drive - I wondered if the extra speed increase is worth the money or is it not that noticeable
[09:08] <sugi> paul68: thanks paul everything is up and running now.  I have to change my menu.lst though because it still says windows xp not windows vista.  Not that im going to be loading up windows vista anytime soon, but who knows?  now to install opensuse 11.1 :D
[09:08] <sugi> MaWaLe: well, my next question is.  whats your current age then?
[09:08] <Kartagis> !ot | steveccc
[09:08] <MaWaLe> sugi: i expected it :p 31
[09:08] <paul68> sugi: pay attention when you install opensuse it tens to screw up your grub aswell had that nasty experience myself
[09:08] <steveccc> kartagis: my apologies
[09:09] <ubuntistas> jecho iam speaking english not chinese
[09:09] <JECHO> ubuntuistas: ...?
[09:09] <MaWaLe> sugi: is knowing that will help answering my question ;)
[09:10] <BadEagle> ubuntistas, been that to me too
[09:10] <dabbill8900> Any one able to help with my grub problem? I just reinstalled grub to fix linux but now I can't get vista to boot
[09:10] <ubuntistas> any solution badeagle?
[09:10] <paul68> !grub|dabbill8900
[09:10] <BadEagle> ubuntistas, actually if you put "sudo apt-get update" into terminal it will bring it up
[09:10] <ubuntistas> or it's just a bug
[09:10] <sugi> paul68: I love opensuse, but i do tend to have a lot of issues with it.  I took my old windows partition and cut in two. half went to vista nd now the other will go to opensuse.  still leaving my ubutnu partition. thanks for hte advince. I am planning for issues though
[09:10] <BadEagle> not sure...
[09:10] <ubuntistas> ?
[09:11] <paranoid_ndroid> I'm trying to recover data from a broken HDD with a ubuntu live CD. When I try to copy the files there are some of them that give I/O errors. Is there any way to copy on linux skipping automatically the errors?
[09:11] <dabbill8900> I am on my blackberry can't click or copy links :(
[09:11] <sugi> MaWaLe: im sorry i missed your question. what was it? XD
[09:11] <Kartagis> what's the difference between do-release-upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:11] <MaWaLe> what's more advised to use as MTA : postfix or exim4?
[09:12] <ikonia> MaWaLe: personal choice
[09:12] <BadEagle> ubuntistas: has to be a bug
[09:12] <MaWaLe> ikonia: i'm asking for a technical advice, maybe a comparatif
[09:12] <ubuntistas> aha i see badeagle anyway
[09:13] <ikonia> MaWaLe: the technical advice is - it's personal choice, they both do the same thing just slightly different ways
[09:14] <wWales> sitting on ubuntu 9.04 with a 6150 go gpu on my laptop, and the gpu runs at 80 degrees Celsius at idle and over 100 degrees under load! is there any fix?
[09:14] <xonev> when i run startx i don't get any taskbars or anything - why is that?
[09:14] <Kartagis> ikonia, let me ask something. when i boot off livecd, everything will be working right? usb specifically
[09:14] <Kartagis> and network
[09:14] <sugi> By the way, if anyone is or am planning on a installation new OS/disto:  Make sure to remove all USB drives and USB harddrives.  Also removing Micro dives is a good idea.  I had to learn the hard way hahhah :-/
[09:15] <ikonia> Kartagis: should be unless you need propritary modules, or specific configs
[09:15] <ikonia> sugi: why ? there is nothing wrong with installing with drives in
[09:15] <MaWaLe> ikonia: i know that they do the same but the choice of one of them must be influenced by some criteria. this is what i'm searching for.
[09:15] <Kartagis> ikonia, i need to recover stuff from a windows laptop
[09:16] <ikonia> MaWaLe: personal choice of what the individual likes is the critera
[09:16] <ikonia> Kartagis: ok ?
[09:16] <lopol> is there any application like "windows's device manager" for hardware administration???
[09:16] <disappearedng> how do I make ssh a proxy server?
[09:16] <sugi> ikonia: of coruse there is nothing wrong with installing these distros onto those formats, but when you mean to install your new OS to a harddrive and NOT wipe out your extra harddrive is not what I wanted.
[09:16] <notdkw> MaWaLe: They do the same thing. It does come down to preference, and what you find easier to configure yourself. Give them both a go and make a choice.
[09:17] <ikonia> sugi: so basiclly - you made a user error, so you suggest people take out disks to stop them making your personal user error
[09:17] <marcelo> i installed ubuntu 9.04 3 days ago and it starting to freeze on me....   any Ideas?
[09:17] <MaWaLe> thanks ikonia, notdkw
[09:18] <MaWaLe> i even used both of them and have no prefenrences but i thought that many professionnal applications use postfix by default
[09:18] <notdkw> MaWaLe: typically sendmail or postfix for enterprise solutions. but again, depends on the preference of the sysadmin. ;)
[09:18] <ikonia> MaWaLe: nope, applications normally actually call sendmail libs that are simulated by other mta's
[09:19] <nwmcsween> wow 1500 people anyways im trying to compile upstart but to no success
[09:19] <nwmcsween> wire.c:120: error: 'INT_MIN' undeclared (first use in this function)
[09:19] <sugi> ikonia: it was my mistake to leave the extra harddrive plugged in.  So in the end, I ended up wiping my extra harddrive that I just backed up everything to.  So, for troubleshooting and failsafe would be to remove the external harddrive form the computer.  So for my poor english, I meant to say external not extra harddrive***
[09:19] <paul68> !ssh|disappearedng
[09:20] <noogie> does anyone know why i wouldnt be able to see my index.php page through the webbrowser when it is in the correct folder, this is an apache question
[09:20] <noogie> my website is wiki.superstalkme.com
[09:21] <DurtDiggler> maybe installing fedora instead will be an easier fix
[09:22] <Kartagis> noogie, permissions? it gives a 404
[09:22] <noogie> it is readable for all
[09:22] <Kartagis> noogie, #apache
[09:22] <noogie> Kartagis: the permission are -rw-r-r
[09:22] <noogie> Kartagis: its empty
[09:23] <noogie> kartagis: nobody is in the apache channel
[09:23] <marcelo> i installed ubuntu 9.04 3 days ago and it starting to freeze on me....   any Ideas?
[09:23] <Kartagis> noogie, try #httpd
[09:23] <paranoid_ndroid> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7174520#post7174520
[09:23] <noogie> i have that open,,,ill try there
[09:25] <khensthoth> marcelo, are you using ext4?
[09:26] <sugi> I am trying to install my third OS on my harddrive, everything is going oh kay until now.  I am stuck at the point where I need to setup my partition for my third OS.  Which I am having a problem with, because the LiveCD of OpenSUSE does not see my free space which is 29 gigs.  My current setup: sda 1 WIndows Vista, sda 2 Linux / , sda 3 linux swap , sda 4 /home .  I think I know the problem, all of these partition is set to prim.  And if I
[09:26] <Polterge|st> can anyone tell me how to get flash working in firefox in Jaunty ?
[09:26] <Polterge|st> the latest flash player
[09:26] <marcelo> khensthoth:  I am not sure....    how do i find out?
[09:26] <DurtDiggler> ismarc
[09:26] <DurtDiggler> thanks for the help
[09:27] <Polterge|st> I can install the version 10 but it says there is a later version in the software channels. I've yet to see that version though
[09:27] <DurtDiggler> but I'm gonna scrap this thing
[09:27] <LinkPie> Adobe's website should have it
[09:27] <ismarc> DurtDiggler: Build just finished, opening up my firewall now
[09:27] <Polterge|st> they have version 10
[09:27] <Polterge|st> there is a version for 8.04
[09:27] <Polterge|st> and a tar.gz
[09:27] <DurtDiggler> I think I need to just stick with fedora
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> Polterge|st: get the tar.gz and extract the .so to ~/.mozilla/plugins
[09:28] <Polterge|st> ok
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> Polterge|st: i will assume you use firefox like every other person
[09:28] <Polterge|st> I am guessing the tarball will be more recent
[09:28] <Polterge|st> yeah ActionParsnip1
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> Polterge|st: if you use 64bit, get the 64bit plugin
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> Polterge|st: yeah i thought you used firefox
[09:28] <ikonia> Polterge|st: no - use the flashplugin-nonfree package
[09:29] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1: why are you suggesting people use beta software as default ?
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: its native 64bit
[09:29] <Polterge|st> I downloaded and installed that plugin earlier ikonia
[09:29] <Polterge|st> I wonder why it didn't install
[09:29] <DurtDiggler> ismarc
[09:29] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1: yes, its VERY beta
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> Polterge|st: ive never had that thing work personally
[09:29] <DurtDiggler> I've changed my mind
[09:30] <wWales> my gpu is overheating alot on my laptop, i wouldnt mind extra fan noise if only it could stay cool, how do i configure it that way if im using 180.53 nvidia driver?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: its worked flawlessly here for as long as its been out and ive shown it to lots of folks and they say its fine too, i only call it as i see it
[09:31] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1: yeah, but "works for you" is not the norm
[09:31] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1: got to try the supported stuff first
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: i have, i tried all the guides i could find that say use the repos and they simply dont work, on any version of ubuntu i have tried. its baffling
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: except 32bit
[09:32] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1: don't work for you - not him
[09:32] <Polterge|st> I'm running 32 bit of course
[09:32] <ikonia> ActionParsnip1: support HIS experience, not your own
[09:32] <Polterge|st> this is why I dunno if a native 64 bit plugin will work
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> Polterge|st: oh then 32bit is easy peasy, the repo will do the work for you
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> Polterge|st: no it will moan
[09:33] <Polterge|st> strangely enough I used apt-get install flash-nonfree earlier
[09:33] <sugi> paul68:  are you still there?
[09:33] <Polterge|st> it said it downloaded and installed it
[09:33] <Polterge|st> do I need to do something else instead to get that to work or something ?
[09:33] <ActionParsnip1> Polterge|st: gimme a sec
[09:33] <paul68> sugi: yes
[09:34] <ActionParsnip1> Polterge|st: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[09:34] <xonev> i'm trying to reinstall a package and it will not install all of the files that are listed in dpkg-query -L
[09:35] <xonev> why is that
[09:35] <fde> xonev: the files it won't reinstall in /etc? you purge the package?
[09:36] <xonev> fde: no, i didn't how do you purge it?
[09:36] <javier-uy> desde Ubuntu 8.10 actualice los paquetes para dejarlo como 9.04, descargo lo mas bien, los instalo bien tambien, pero al reiniciar la maquina cuando vuelve a prenderse ya no tiene acceso a internet. Busque configurarlo desde consola con pppoeconf y desde la network manager, y nada, es como si no configurara nada
[09:36] <fde> !es > javier-uy
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> xonev: sudo dpkg -P <name>
[09:36] <xonev> ActionParsnip1: thanks
[09:36] <fde> xonev: you don't want to purge it
[09:36] <Polterge|st> this is what I did earlier
[09:36] <wWales> im new to ubuntu and i want to contribute somehow to the community, i read submitting bugreports is very useful for developers, is there some "bugsack" program/feature i can use to send error logs along with hardware info somewher? :)
[09:36] <sugi> paul68: Let me resend my issue with my current setup.... "I am trying to install my third OS on my harddrive, everything is going oh kay until now.  I am stuck at the point where I need to setup my partition for my third OS.  Which I am having a problem with, because the LiveCD of OpenSUSE 11.1 does not see my free space which is 29 gigs.  My current setup: sda 1 WIndows Vista, sda 2 Linux / , sda 3 linux swap , sda 4 /home .  I think I
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> xonev: if when you remove it use: sudo apt-get --purge remove <app> it will remove the config too
[09:36] <Polterge|st> "sudo apt-get install gsfonts gsfonts-x11 flashplugin-nonfree"
[09:36] <xonev> fde: oh, well, i didn't purge it
[09:37] <fde> sugi: use 'ubuntu-bug'
[09:37] <xonev> it's not installing the config files or the ones in /etc
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> !bug > wWa
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> !bug >> wWales
[09:37] <Abracadabra> Good morning
[09:37] <paul68> sugi: sorry can't help you here
[09:37] <Abracadabra> Does anyone know where I can find a good site that covers CLI commands ?
[09:37] <fde> Sorry, wWales use ubuntu-bug
[09:38] <wWales> im sorry i dont understand
[09:38] <wWales> ok
[09:38] <sugi> fde: I will look into that. Thanks.... paul68.  thank you anyways sir.
[09:38] <ActionParsnip1> !bug
[09:38] <xonev> fde: so i don't want to purge the package?
[09:38] <fde> sugi: wasn't intended for you, my bad
[09:38] <emanuel> Hi!!!!!!!
[09:38] <Abracadabra> !cli
[09:38] <xonev> fde: i kind of did purge it, I guess, but i did it by manually moving the files so that i would ahve a backup just in case
[09:38] <fde> xonev: no, what you describe seems to be ucf's fault though... and I don't know how to make ucf ignore such things
[09:38] <Abracadabra> !cli commands
[09:39] <emanuel> my webcam is no work!!!
[09:39] <Abracadabra> !command
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> !webcam > emanuel
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> !cli > Abracadabra
[09:39] <Polterge|st> I might try the tarball for linux if nothing else
[09:39] <Polterge|st> it is probably more recent than the deb package
[09:39] <sugi> fde, hahahah oh kay then. I will not look into that forward.
[09:39] <Polterge|st> even though the deb package is for Ubuntu 8.04
[09:40] <Polterge|st> hopefully it isn't a 64 bit plugin though
[09:40] <fde> Polterge|st: with Flash, it doesn't really matter where its from... its not like its compiled for each Ubuntu version, it's binary
[09:40] <Polterge|st> fde, true
[09:40] <Abracadabra> ActionParsnip1: thx, checking the link
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> Polterge|st: use the repo and it WILL be for your release
[09:41] <Polterge|st> they just put ubuntu 8.04 out beside it fde and it seemed like maybe the tarball could be more recent
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> Polterge|st: and your architecture
[09:41] <Polterge|st> the repo says flash is installed
[09:41] <Polterge|st> however it doesn't work for me
[09:41] <emanuel> help me
[09:41] <fde> Polterge|st: just don't go around using randomly installing stuff from old versions, it will break stuff... binary only stuff is all that is ok... although I have 64bit Ubuntu Jaunty and flash is fine...
[09:41] <alex2> hello; I upgraded from hardy to intrepid and I get a 'file not found' error on boot
[09:42] <fde> Polterge|st: I just didn't do anything special, so I have no idea what is wrong for you
[09:42] <Polterge|st> I'm using 32 bit but my guess is that a tarball might allow me to compile the plugin
[09:42] <alex2> I've checked menu.lst and it's fine
[09:42] <xonev> purging the packages and installing them again worked
[09:42] <remoteCTRL1> can anyone recommend me an ubuntu compatible scanner with a paper tray?
[09:42] <MachinTrucChose> hi...i'm troubleshooting my sshd, and don't have a 2nd internet connection to test with. can someone ssh or telnet to <IP_ADDRESS> on port 2223 and tell me if the socket is established?
[09:42] <Polterge|st> or it might allow me to install the plugin into my plugins folder as ActionParsnip1 suggested earlier
[09:42] <fde> Polterge|st: there is no compiling flash unless you're an adobe employee... the tarball just contains a readme and the .so file
[09:43] <alex2> I ran fsck on my drives
[09:43] <Polterge|st> fde, ok good deal
[09:43] <alex2> but still nothing
[09:43] <fde> alex2: file not found most likely means your grub menu.lst is wrong
[09:43] <Polterge|st> it is just the lib then
[09:43] <dreamnid> does anybody know how to make lvm activate on boot in jaunty?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip1> Polterge|st: try: mkdir ~/.moilla/plugins; cd ~/.mozilla/plugins; ln -s /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so; cd ~
[09:43] <Polterge|st> should be fine
[09:43] <Gumby> has anyone noticed very high cpu usage using flash in firefox after upgrading to Jaunty?
[09:43] <alnawras> hi
[09:44] <nwmcsween> what does upstart use python for? dbus bindings?
[09:44] <fde> Gumby: no higher than it has been since the dawn of time
[09:44] <ActionParsnip1> fde: amen
[09:44]  * nwmcsween moans
[09:44] <Gumby> its way higher here than in hardy for me
[09:44] <fde> nwmcsween: pretty much everything... including its event scripts
[09:44] <Aleran> my F keys at the top of my keyboard are not working. Can someone point me to a resource on fixing this? I'm not sure what's causing it
[09:44] <alex2> fde: ok, this is how it looks:
[09:44] <alex2> title		Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-11-generic
[09:44] <alex2> root		(hd0,6)
[09:44] <alex2> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic root=UUID=65dc6ef0-655c-40b0-aeff-f64db5f58dc4 ro quiet splash
[09:44] <alex2> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-11-generic
[09:44] <FloodBot3> alex2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:44] <khensthoth> Gumby, what graphic card are you using?
[09:44]  * nwmcsween moans very loudly
[09:44] <xonev> ok, now i'm back where i started - gdm won't start up properly
[09:45] <fde> alex2: awesome, without knowledge of your partition layout, that is useless
[09:45] <Gumby> not to mention the flash actually slows down (like slowdown in console games)
[09:45] <alex2> fde: ok, this is how it looks: root		(hd0,6)
[09:45] <Gumby> khensthoth, intel 945gm
[09:45] <alex2> fde: kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic root=UUID=65dc6ef0-655c-40b0-aeff-f64db5f58dc4 ro quiet splash
[09:45] <fde> alex2: stop
[09:45] <owner> Can anyone help with setting up higher monitor refresh rate ,plz.I cant pass over<EMAIL_ADDRESS>nvidia-settings doesnt read from xorg.conf my changes , even tho ive restarted the X'ses
[09:45] <khensthoth> Gumby, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904
[09:45] <alex2> fde: stopped
[09:45] <Gumby> not a speedy chip by any means.  But its the difference between 8.10 and 9.04 that is the issue
[09:45] <fde> alex2: is ubuntu's /boot or / on /dev/sda7 ?
[09:46] <khensthoth> Gumby, try adding the greedy migration heuristic OR the UXA to see if it improves anything.
[09:46] <enterneo> how do I remap ctrl to alt and vice versa on the left side using keyboard preferences?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip1> alex2: use pastebin like the bot says, quit flooding the channel
[09:46] <alex2> fde: /boot is /dev/sda6
[09:46] <nwmcsween> when did upstart start using python?
[09:46] <nwmcsween> 0.5?
[09:46] <Gumby> khensthoth, Ive no idea what that means but I'll look into it
[09:47] <koolkartik> hi everyone..... m having probs in jaunty....... no desktop effects,, vlc crashes each time i syart it, flash on you tube is very slow like frame by frame....i hav already installed mediubuntu repos n win 32 codecs.... need help :(
[09:47] <Gumby> ah, I see its in the URL you pasted
[09:47] <fde> nwmcsween: it always has, Ubuntu/Canonical is huge on python
[09:47] <alex2> ActionParsnip1: sorry, it's my first time doing that
[09:47] <nwmcsween> fde iirc 0.3 doesn't
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> alex2: good, as long as its the last ;)
[09:47] <nwmcsween> i think
[09:47] <fde> nwmcsween: yes it does, jaunty is still using 0.3.x
[09:48] <owner> Someone here orientated with setting high monitor refresh rate then 75.
[09:48] <Aleran> my F keys at the top of my keyboard are not working. Can someone point me to a resource on fixing this? I'm not sure what's causing it
[09:48] <ActionParsnip1> Aleran: do they produce events in xev?
[09:48] <Aleran> ActionParsnip1, how can I check xev?
[09:49] <Gumby> thx khensthoth going to restart X now and see if that helped.  BRB
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> Aleran: run it in terminal
[09:50] <alex2> fde: should root be (hd0,5)?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> Aleran: then have the konsole focused and press the keys
[09:50] <MachinTrucChose> can no one tell me if they can ssh to <IP_ADDRESS> on port 2223? I need to know if I can't connect because of misconfiguration, or because my router will fail anything that looks like LAN> WAN > LAN
[09:50] <fde> alex2: I have no idea... where did you install Ubuntu to?
[09:50] <Aleran> ActionParsnip1, got it. Yes they do produce events
[09:51] <ActionParsnip1> Aleran: ok do they say they are F keys in the output
[09:51] <fde> MachinTrucChose: are you doing any port forwarding? if you're not, it won't work
[09:51] <MachinTrucChose> fde: yes I did
[09:51] <fde> MachinTrucChose: then it should work
[09:51] <xonev> is there a way i can start the ubuntu deskop without starting gdm?
[09:52] <MachinTrucChose> fde: I need to confirm before I leave this computer and travel 10km :)
[09:52] <tpgp> Hey People, I just upgraded to Ubuntu 9.0.4 & have a question regarding one of the touted features - namely evolution's ability to import PST files. Does anyone know how to do this? CSV or TAB are the only listed outlook import options. I have the libpst1   version 0.6.27-0ubuntu
[09:52] <alex2> fde: restarting, I will try to change the partitions in the grub menu. thanks!
[09:52] <MachinTrucChose> it's my first time using ssh
[09:52] <koolkartik> I a\m having probs in jaunty....... no desktop effects,, vlc crashes each time i start it, flash on you tube is very slow like frame by frame....i hav already installed mediubuntu repos n win 32 codecs.... plz  help  me out:(
[09:52] <Polterge|st> nice the tarball worked
[09:53] <ActionParsnip1> koolkartik: did you upgrade o clean install?
[09:53] <Aleran> ActionParsnip1, looks like it doesn't
[09:53] <koolkartik> ActionParsnip1: i upgrade from 8.10
[09:53] <Aleran> ActionParsnip1, "XLookupString gives 0 bytes:"
[09:53] <ActionParsnip1> !keyboard  > Aleran
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> Aleran: have you reinstalled your video driver since the update?
[09:54] <Aleran> no
[09:54] <co_16_smg> yes
[09:54] <co_16_smg> yes, i have
[09:55] <babio> hi guys how can i upgrade from ubuntu 8.10 to ubuntu 9.04???
[09:55] <babio> wich is the better way?
[09:55] <Gumby> khensthoth,  fyi Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy" worked quite well while Option "AccelMethod" "UXA" seemed to have a negative effect as far as the slowdown went
[09:55] <bads> download, babio
[09:55] <Pipiflautico> Hi all
[09:55] <Aleran> ActionParsnip1, what are you suggesting I do in regards to changing my keyboard layout?
[09:55] <ikonia> !upgrade > babio
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> Aleran: make sure its the correct one for the keyboard you have
[09:55] <Pipiflautico> I want to mount a server to broadcast TV thourgh IP (internet), any idea about the software avaibale? thanks
[09:56] <khensthoth> Gumby, Good.
[09:56] <koolkartik> ActionParsnip1:i hav upgraded from 8.10
[09:56] <Caesi> hi all, could anyone help me with setting up a VPN client under Ubuntu 9.04 ?
[09:56] <Aleran> ActionParsnip1, ok. I'll reinstall my nvidia driver and report back
[09:56] <enterneo> remap left ctrl to alt and vice versa?
[09:56] <Randominator> Guyz i have a question , if i creater via "xrandr" a new resolution , how do i switch to it ? what is the command ? tried many w/o progress
[09:56] <Caesi> !VPN
[09:56] <babio> ikonia in the comunity notes there isn't the instruction to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04
[09:56] <ikonia> Randominator: xrandr is real time
[09:56] <LinkPie> Do I have to have open ports to ssh another computer in my network?
[09:57] <babio> in the second guide yes...sorry
[09:57] <xcdfgkjhgcv> How do I make Ubuntu check for updates every day?
[09:57] <Randominator> ikonia: yea i know i just try to fix my refresh rate , following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution HOWTO cuze nothing helps so far.Im still stuck with 1280x1024@75
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> LinkPie: yes if you have a firewall configured, and yes if you want access over wan
[09:58] <LinkPie> For some reason I can't get portforwarding to work
[09:58] <LinkPie> I think there is something wrong with my router, believe it or not
[09:58] <trylik> hi i started a session in "failsafe" or "safe" mode , how can i "maximize" web browser windows to whole screen?
[09:59] <koolkartik> :(
[09:59] <rski> firefox stopped starting after i upgraded it
[09:59] <rski> what to do next
[10:00] <koolkartik>  I am having probs in jaunty....... no desktop effects,, vlc crashes each time i start it, flash on you tube is very slow like frame by frame....i hav already installed mediubuntu repos n win 32 codecs.... can someone plz  help  me out:(
[10:00] <sean2009> hi does any one know how to get the wireless card thing in an acer aspire one to work in ubuntu.?
[10:00] <lemanchotfou> hi
[10:01] <KingKimi> Hi .. !
[10:01] <medicinebaby> hello
[10:02] <ActionParsnip1> sean2009: sudo lshw -C network      will get you started
[10:02] <sean2009> ActionParsnip1,   ok thanks for the help i will try it
[10:03] <zura> hello all, after upgrading to Jaunty Jackalope 9.04 my volume increase/decrease buttons on keyboard don't work... :(
[10:03] <zura> I downloaded keytouch,but can't get it working
[10:04] <KingKimi> i cannot see animated gids using the default pic viewer of ubuntu .... how to ?
[10:04] <KingKimi> *animated GIFS
[10:04] <zura> ActionParsnip1, I downloaded keytouch yesterday, but no way I get it working... :(
[10:04] <KingKimi> !Gif > KingKimi
[10:04] <adnc> hello, i've upgraded my notebook with an intel graphics card 965 to jaunty and x behaviour is very slow. is there a solution to it?
[10:05] <zura> upgraded my notebook to jaunty jackalope, but now I am missing the volume increase decrease buttons functionality
[10:05] <zura> help
[10:06] <adnc> zura: is it a samsung?
[10:06] <zura> no.... a hp nc 6400
[10:06] <sugi> Is it possible to delete a primary swap partition and then create another swap LOGICAL partition without harming the distro?  I need an extra primary partition for another OS?
[10:06] <adnc> zura: then i can't help, for samsung you can fix it with a bios downgrade
[10:06] <koolkartik> hi i hav upgraded to jaunty and it is  very slow, no desktop effects, cant paly video as vlc crashes each time and flash on you tube is very slow as frame by frame  need help :(
[10:06] <zura> thanx adnc... anyway
[10:07] <zura> It is just that I don't want to downgrade to 8.10 interpid.. :(
[10:07] <zura> but can't find a solution yet
[10:08] <zura> upgraded my notebook to jaunty jackalope, but now I am missing the volume increase decrease buttons functionality
[10:08] <zura> hp nc 6400
[10:08] <teolicy> Hi. Wow, what a huge channel. Anyway, I have an Ubuntu system on which I'd like to install OpenSSH 5.2p1 (I need the 'tunnel-port-0- feature of 5.2). I'm not sure how to go about doing this with minimal breakage of the rest of the system.
[10:09] <zura> yeah, huge channel, little response... :(
[10:09] <sugi> Is it possible to delete a primary swap partition and then create another swap LOGICAL partition without harming the distro?  I need an extra primary partition for another OS?
[10:09] <teolicy> I'm thinking compiling openssh-5.2p1 into /usr/local/..., and then symlinking the binary names into /usr/bin. Thus, when the openssh is updated, my symlinks will be clobbered and the system will continue as usual with whatever new ssh will come out.
[10:09] <teolicy> Does that make sense?
[10:10] <joaopinto> teolicy, probably using dpkg-divert it's a better option, read it's manpage
[10:10] <teolicy> sugi: It depends on the layout of your partition table. Do you have an extended partition with free space in it?
[10:11] <teolicy> joaopinto: Aye, I will. Thanks.
[10:12] <NET||abuse> hey guys. anyone know how to mount a vbox .vdi file as a disk? I want to get access to files, but don't want to boot the whole vm
[10:12] <joaopinto> teolicy, btw, if you do a .deb based installed, even using a source package, it will not be updated because your version is higher
[10:12] <sugi> teolicy: I have 29 gigs of free space, but 4 active primary partition.  prim ntfs partition,  prim / parititon, prim swap partition, and prim /home.
[10:13] <donkie> how to make wired managed by NetworkManager?
[10:13] <sugi> teolicy: btw, thats the sda# they are infact in order. so ntfs to the /home is the numbered of the sda....
[10:13] <teolicy> sugi: OK, and what do you want to do? Erasing the swap partition won't really free you a partition, because logical partition need to be created in an 'extended partition', which takes up a primary.
[10:13] <joaopinto> sugi, you can do whatever you want with your swap partition, as long you update /etc/fstab accordingly
[10:13] <joaopinto> sugi, assuming you be using a live cd for the changes
[10:14] <teolicy> joaopinto: I don't understand your comment about doing a .deb based install. You mean, if I pack my openssh-5.2p1 as a .deb and install that?
[10:14] <donkie> my wired is not managed by NetworkManager
[10:15] <joaopinto> teolicy, yes, that is what I mean, using checkinstall should be fine for that
[10:15] <mquin> NET||abuse: easy way is to attach it as a second disk to another VM (use a live CD if you don't have anything suitable) and mount it there, hard way (assuming you've got a boatload of free disk space) is to use vditool to produce a raw disk image and mount that (you'll probably need to use fdisk to figure out the partition offset to pass to 'mount')
[10:15] <sugi> joaopinto: :-/ I did not think about updating the /fstab afterwards and I am not 100% sure I know how to do that. I have had a lot of issues with the manual editting of the fstab
[10:16] <trylik> is there any way to block right click ?
[10:16] <joaopinto> sugi, the swap partition is described on /etc/fstab, if it's moving to a new location, most likelt it's UUID will change, you need to update the swap line on fstab
[10:17] <joaopinto> sugi, it is not very complex, and you can boot without swap and fix the problem later
[10:17] <teolicy> sugi: It is relatively simple to make swap reside in a file rather than a partition. Is that something you'll be interested in?
[10:17] <luddite> hibernate in 9.04 works awesome now - i hibernated whilst playing music- on resume it played the mp3 from where it left off- awesome
[10:17] <joaopinto> teolicy, because performance concerns it is not advised to use file based swap...
[10:18] <luddite> but hibernate has no nice gui screen went going to hibernate
[10:18] <jelly12gen> clear
[10:18] <sugi> teolicy: It sounds liek it would fix my issue. I need to free up a primary partition. SO yea. joaopinto would the UUID be something like sda5 or whatever the numbe may be?
[10:18] <luddite> can there be a pretty hibernate gui screen?
[10:19] <Myrtti> luddite: what do you mean?
[10:19] <NET||abuse> mquin, i was hoping to mount the vdi as a disk from time to time, and then just boot up the vm when i want to run an app in vista, but keep access to the updated files on the vdi without too much overhead. this seems like something that should be built into vbox or a driver it should install as part of it's packaging. vdi disk driver extension to supported file systems.
[10:19] <joaopinto> sugi, sda5 is the device name, UUID is a unique id assigned to each partition
[10:19] <teolicy> sugi, joaopinto: I've never tested this exact case, but in my opinion, if you have more than two or three times free space in the partition where you're creating the swap file, the performance loss should be negligible.
[10:20] <teolicy> sugi, joaopinto: Again, this is entirely off the top of my head, but I'd say less than 10% performance hit on a heavily swapping use-case.
[10:20] <NET||abuse> mquin, i'm seeing from google that most solutions don't seem to like dynamically sized vdi's either... 'm boned here arn't i?
[10:20] <luddite> myrtti - when you boot up you have the progress bar - when shutting down - you get a progress bar. on hibernate there is no progress bar- just a ugly black screen with a cursor flasshing.
[10:20] <rdz> hi all. where can i find detailed release notes and changes for 9.04?
[10:20] <enigma> gluonman, hey
[10:20] <rdz> sorry.. i justread the topic
[10:20] <sugi> joaopinto: This sounds like a easy fix to corent the fstab, but how would I find out the UUID of the new partitioin?  I do not want to jump into this blindly.
[10:20] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes rdz
[10:21] <joaopinto> teolicy, I have never used file based swap, so this is a theoritical observation, if you have a swap file, you must had the overhead of whatever filesystem management is required for that file, unlike a raw swap partiton, which can be directly managed
[10:21] <gluonman> enigma, talk to me in #chatzone
[10:21] <Myrtti> luddite: I don't think there is anything like that available or even being designed yet
[10:21] <DJones> rdz: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904
[10:21] <enigma> k
[10:21] <joaopinto> sugi, sudo blkid
[10:22] <joaopinto> sugi, let me correct a past sentence, you can boot without swap, unless you have a very small ammount of RAM :P
[10:22] <teolicy> joaopinto: Yes and no. I suspect the filesystem structures used to manage the swap file will remain in RAM on all relevant scenarios. And then all you lose is a few C function calls per swap access to disk.
[10:23] <mquin> NET||abuse: looks that way. Given that the virtualbox-ose exists it should be possible to write an FS driver (probably an ideal candidate for FUSE), but it doesn't appear that anyone has done so yet
[10:23] <teolicy> joaopinto: Few C functions calls on a modern PC: less than a microsecond. Access to disk: 3,000 microseconds in the best of the best case, more like 7,500-15,000 micro in a sane case.
[10:24] <teolicy> joaopinto: At least, that's the numbers I have in my head. So if every swap operation takes 3000 micro, now it will take 3000.5 micro. I think sugi can live with that. :)
[10:24] <puneeth> i need someone to help me install musictracker
[10:24] <joaopinto> teolicy, your assumptiom may be correct, however, based on the fact that no distro is adopting it, I must doub it :P
[10:25] <sugi> joaopinto: so let me get this straight. delete the swap partition, recreate the swap parition with a logical partition.  Then after the creation of hte new swap partitiion. op en the terminal and sudo gedit the /etc/fstab and change the UUID of the new swap logical partition withe the following command (sudo blkid) which should give the new UUID of the swap logical partition?  Is this correct?  if so, how do I make sure the old swap[ par
[10:25] <mquin> NET||abuse: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?p=59679#59679 looks promising, if a little raw
[10:25] <joaopinto> sugi, probably it's easier to do it in two steps, first just remove the swap line from your /etc/fstab, and reboot, then you can use fdisk for th part changes
[10:26] <teolicy> sugi: Yes, what you're saying is correct, /but it won't save you a partition according to the layout you just now specified/.
[10:26] <puneeth> can someone help me to install musictracker ?
[10:26] <dayo> how do i listen to shoutcast on rhythmbox?
[10:26] <puneeth> i have problems with compilation
[10:27] <joaopinto> puneeth, you mean the plugin ?
[10:27] <puneeth> yes
[10:27] <koolkartik> hi i hav upgraded to jaunty and it is  very slow, no desktop effects, cant paly video as vlc crashes each time and flash on you tube is very slow as frame by frame  need help :(
[10:27] <puneeth> joaopinto; yes
[10:27] <joaopinto> puneeth, it is not something easy to build, what error are you getting ?
[10:27] <[1]kino> I am trying to install ubuntu. I get a RESIZE OPERATION FAILURE error. What should i do? I already defragmented w/windows. PLEASE HELP
[10:27] <joaopinto> puneeth, if you can wait some time there maybe a .deb package for it on getdeb, soon
[10:28] <joaopinto> [1]kino, that is during the ntfs resize partition ?
[10:28] <puneeth> joaopinto; hopefully , but i want musictracker
[10:28] <teolicy> sugi: You got my last sentence?If you have four primary partitions, deleting one and creating a logical partition /will not free up a primary partition/.
[10:28] <sugi> joaopinto: well I still have to remove the prim swap partition and create a new logical swap partition then make a line in the fstab file to connecto to the new logical partition.
[10:28] <stone> i have install skype in ubuntu 8.10
[10:28] <joaopinto> sugi, sure, on a second step
[10:28] <NET||abuse> mquin, will read that, thanks...
[10:28] <joaopinto> stone, www.skype.com, there is a deb there
[10:29] <[1]kino> joaopinto: it's after the PREPARE PARTITIONS dialog
[10:29] <sugi> teolicy: is this true? Can someone confirmed this? Even though I delete the prim swap partition and make a new logical swap partition. it WILL NOT free up a primary partition for an extra OS installation?
[10:29] <KyoLee> in ubuntu 9.04,  the fonts is too big in flash, i cannot see the whole fonts.
[10:29] <stone> but the error "p2p connection faileur" is showing
[10:30] <joaopinto> puneeth, better ask here on the channel, there is more people to help you ;)
[10:30] <stone> can anybody help me
[10:30] <koolkartik> I hav upgraded to jaunty and it is  very slow, no desktop effects, cant paly video as vlc crashes each time and flash on you tube is very slow as frame by frame  need help........ tried everything that i can do...
[10:30] <teolicy> sugi: Logical partitions MUST be created inside an "extended partition", which takes up the space of one primary partition.
[10:30] <teolicy> sugi: If you don't have an extended partition, and from what you wrote, you don't, then deleting a primary will leave you with two choices:
[10:30] <puneeth> i have a error in step 2 while installing musictracker (the plugin for pidgin)
[10:31] <joaopinto> koolkartik, what is your garphics card ?
[10:31] <teolicy> sugi: 1. Create an extended partition and create logical partitions within (the extended partition will take the room of a primary). 2. Create a primary partition.
[10:31] <[1]kino> I am trying to install ubuntu. I get a RESIZE OPERATION FAILURE error. What should i do? I already defragmented w/windows. PLEASE HELP
[10:31] <joaopinto> puneeth, please pastebin your error
[10:31] <puneeth> the install file says to change directory to the musictracker folder, and the give ./configure
[10:31] <teolicy> sugi: So you see, deleting just one primary won't help you.
[10:31] <bazhang> puneeth, that is in repos, why not install from there
[10:31] <joaopinto> [1]kino, have you checked with your defrag tool that there is no block allocated at  the end of the disk  ?
[10:32] <bazhang> !info pidgin-musictracker
[10:32] <[1]kino> joaopinto: no, i haven't. how do i do that?
[10:32] <koolkartik>  joaopinto: i dont hav an additional graphics card its inbuilt on my motherboard
[10:32] <joaopinto> ops, there is pidgin-musictracker in the repos, didn't noticed
[10:32] <koolkartik>  joaopinto:how can i check the model
[10:32] <haunthouse> hi, how do I assign an icon for a file format?
[10:32] <puneeth> joapinto ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/160572/
[10:32] <joaopinto> koolkartik, erm, it's builtin, you have one, open a terminal and type: lspci | grep VGA
[10:32] <puneeth> joaopinto; http://paste.ubuntu.com/160572/
[10:33] <joaopinto> puneeth, like bazhang said, why don't you install from the repositories ?
[10:33] <sugi> teolicy: I told extended partition mainly just contain data. I am sure/was not told that they still require one primary slot? But if what you say is true. I can have many many logical partitions, but those many many logical partition will be stored in the extend3ed partition? which by default have to take up at least one primary patition?
[10:33] <ackbahr> Hi! My supposedly USB2 ports have a low throughput, leading to ssslllooowww file transfers and webcam problems. Can someone help me? It was fine in 8.10....
[10:33] <stone> p2p error in skype
[10:33] <haunthouse> hi, how do I assign an icon for a file format?
[10:33] <puneeth> bazhang; what is the package name?
[10:33] <koolkartik> joaopinto: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[10:33] <stone> p2p error in skype
[10:33] <stone> p2p error in skype
[10:34] <bazhang> pidgin-musictracker puneeth
[10:34] <stone> p2p error in skype
[10:34] <joaopinto> puneeth, go the package manager and search for "musictracker"
[10:34] <bazhang> stone dont repeat
[10:34] <joaopinto> !repeat | stone
[10:34] <teolicy> sugi: You can move all your non-boot partitions to be logical partitions inside a single extended partition.
[10:34] <puneeth> bazhang, thanks!
[10:34] <stone> p2p error in skype
[10:34] <[1]kino> joaopinto: how do I check with the defrag tool if there are blocks left at the end of the disk
[10:34] <joaopinto> stone, did you install skype ?
[10:34] <bazhang> stone stop that
[10:34] <stone> ya
[10:34] <teolicy> sugi: For some cases, you can move boot partitions to be logical, too.
[10:34] <c0p3rn1c> pff linuxdc++ isn't working
[10:35] <stone> p2p error in skype
[10:35] <c0p3rn1c> n/m got to go
[10:35] <younder> I amnot sure stone he is into this C logic thing
[10:35] <joaopinto> [1]kino, you need to use a defrag tool which shows you the partition layout
[10:35] <joaopinto> !ops | stone just repeating himself
[10:35] <koolkartik> joaopinto: what can i do now?
[10:35] <younder> If you have a proper Liux you don't have to defragment
[10:35] <younder> linux
[10:35] <ikonia> stone: stop
[10:36] <Myrtti> stone: what's your problem?
[10:36] <joaopinto> younder, he is asking about an ntfs partition that he needs to resize
[10:36] <ikonia> stone: we've talked about this before, please stop
[10:36] <[1]kino> joaopinto> i use the windows defragmenter, does it show it?
[10:36] <stone> p2p error in skype
[10:36] <younder> Or windows for that matter
[10:36] <wlodi> will someone trow stone out
[10:36] <ikonia> stone: ask your question - wait for a response, say 10 - 15 minutes between asking
[10:36] <joaopinto> [1]kino, don't know, windows is not my area of expertise, better ask on ##windows :P
[10:37] <adnc> did someone face problems with his intel graphics card after upgrading to jaunty?
[10:37] <ikonia> adnc: it's a known issue, it is being worked on
[10:37] <joaopinto> adnc, there are known issues with the intel driver
[10:37] <bazhang> adnc, which card
[10:37] <younder> If it's a OS I know it and have used it.. ;)
[10:37] <teolicy> sugi: I have to leave now, so sorry I can't help further.
[10:37] <[1]kino> joaopinto> but basically, i should care that there are no blocks left at the end of the disk?
[10:37] <adnc> bazhang: it is the 965 and very slow
[10:37] <bazhang> adnc, fix being worked on now