[05:41] <SolarisBoy> mohadib: how about auto eth0?
[05:41] <bethebunny> Dr_Willis: Try maximizing a window in a workspace, with two other small floating applications in an adjacent workspace. Now, you can alt-tab once to switch workspaces! Even better, when you press alt-tab again, you don't get back to your original program, you switch to the third one!
[05:41] <cipher__> i wonder why i get x86_64 three times in my uname?
[05:41] <rysh> Django: Or you maybe can google for it?
[05:41] <doc|home> anyone got suggestions for a decent FPS that's in apt? I'm looking for a way to kill some time.
[05:41] <SolarisBoy> i had no idea you could do that but now that i think of its how most cisco's work
[05:41]  * doc|home misses enemy territory
[05:41] <mohadib> SolarisBoy: that was my next thing to try, but i was scared i would lock myself out of the box :s
[05:41] <Django> Jordan_U: The Thing Is That I'm Planning On Getting Started To Ubuntu Linux But Im Not Quite Sure Wich Version To DOwnload
[05:41] <sacarlson> Chuck_Norris: I looked breafly into that posibilty of adding scirpts but failed to figure out how to pass values
[05:41] <Django> And I'm A Bit COnfused
[05:41] <doc|home> Django: that's an odd use of capitalisation
[05:42] <SolarisBoy> mohadib: thats your line in?
[05:42] <mohadib> SolarisBoy: in this case, i got have an unused eth1, think ill just make use of it, thanks
[05:42] <mohadib> SolarisBoy: yes
[05:42] <SolarisBoy> hmm
[05:42] <mohadib> s/got/do
[05:42] <sacarlson> Chuck_Norris: but I'm sure they will at least have those fixed in 1 or 2 years when I can upgrade to 12.04
[05:42] <SolarisBoy> that would be optimal rather than create a single point of failure on an unrelated interface =)
[05:42] <bethebunny> Django: Unless you really want KDE or are using a very old (6+ years) laptop, you should probably install 12.04 64-bit desktop edition.
[05:43] <Django> doc home: what are you annonymous or something? xD
[05:43] <doc|home> Django: hmm?
[05:43] <mohadib> SolarisBoy: yep :)
[05:43] <mohadib> ok, thanks again
[05:43] <Ormie> I have a problem with Ubuntu 12.04 Internal error I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04 When I am about to download virtual box package I get the following output: "Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error message but I expected it to work normally
[05:43] <SolarisBoy> why do those ips look so familiar?
[05:43] <skramer_> I just noticed that some packages on my laptop are installed both, i386 as well as amd64. Could somebody explain why this is?
[05:44] <SolarisBoy> skramer_: i think thats normal some packages require both
[05:44] <Ormie> Oh and, problem type: Crash
[05:44] <SolarisBoy> dependancies and such pull them in also
[05:44] <cipher__> well, i am running an optimus laptop with broken optimus software (bumblebee), if anyone can try to troubleshoot with me, i'd immensely appreciate it
[05:44] <Shdwdrgn> I just upgraded a machine from natty to oneiric, and I'm having an issue with ipv6 services.  Machines on the local ipv4 network can connect to ipv6 services (such as ssh) immediately, but machines outside of the ipv4 network hang for several minutes before connecting.  Any ideas?
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> skramer_:  some apps use the ia386 libs for comptability
[05:44] <Shdwdrgn> and no, this was not an issue right before the upgrade.
[05:45] <Django> bethebunny: and if im running a clone with windows 7 ultimate (hopping to change it for linux)...Hardware: i5, 8GB Ram, HDD750GB, INtegrated Video
[05:45] <Django> ???
[05:45] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: disable ipv6?  I assume your isp is just ipv4
[05:45] <skramer_> I see... Perhaps I just did not notice before ;-)
[05:45] <Shdwdrgn> sacarlson, I use ipv6 services through an HE tunnel
[05:45] <SolarisBoy> skramer_: most likely =)
[05:46] <bethebunny> Django: Then you absolutely want 12.04 64-bit desktop edition ;)
[05:46] <SolarisBoy> Shdwdrgn: are you accessing those services by name or ip addies?
[05:46] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, currently testing by IP address
[05:47] <SolarisBoy> hmm ok
[05:47] <Shdwdrgn> however the results were the same by name
[05:47] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: so you have dual stack ipv6 + ipv4 on local but only ipv6 wan?
[05:47] <SolarisBoy> it reminded me of something else but that was dns related like cycling through ipv6 and v4 tries but if it's the same for both thats more than likely not the case for you
[05:48] <Shdwdrgn> sacarlson, I have both ipv4 and ipv6 access through wan
[05:48] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: also you can force ipv6 or ipv4 on ssh client with -4 or -6
[05:48] <Net_Shade> hello has anyone else have a problem with setting a password with file roller?
[05:48] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, the two services I'm working with right now are ssh and dns... both are responding the same way
[05:49] <SolarisBoy> right
[05:49] <Shdwdrgn> sacarlson, ipv4 access to the machine is working normal, it is only the ipv6 access that is being delayed
[05:49] <SolarisBoy> Shdwdrgn: have you tried debugging options on your commands?
[05:49] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: well if ipv6 is delayed and it falls back to ipv4 if you just -4 it will skip that step
[05:50] <SolarisBoy> and someone stated it but you can use -4 on a lot of commands and -6 as well to just use that version ip proto
[05:50] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, such as?  For example, I can ssh to this server from another server in my dmz with no problems, but when I try to ssh to the server from my desktop, it hangs for several minutes before the connection is made.
[05:51] <SolarisBoy> such as ssh -vvv? dnstracer?
[05:51] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: try both -4 and -6 on the slow one to see if that fixes it then if so make a alias for it
[05:51] <SolarisBoy> but also like said -4 and -6 sound applicable to you
[05:52] <Shdwdrgn> when I test using dig, it tells me which IP it gets the reply from.  I can get an ipv6 reply from another server in my dmz, but trying to dig from my desktop, I get a timeout
[05:52] <SolarisBoy> yea but you didn't trace the time out or what happend is what im saying
[05:52] <GekiritZ> Hey everyone
[05:52] <SolarisBoy> can you try -4 and -6?
[05:52] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: it could be some kind of routing problem or other that could also fix it but this will at least isolate the problem
[05:52] <SolarisBoy> right
[05:53] <GekiritZ> I have an issue - it's partly hardware related, but it's a complete mystery to me on a software level as well
[05:53] <Shdwdrgn> ok when I try "dig -6", it is defaulting back to the ipv4 address for the reply
[05:53] <Shdwdrgn> (from my desktop)
[05:53] <SolarisBoy> ssh -4 or ssh -6
[05:53] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: I setup a ipv6 only network that converts all ipv4 to ipv6,  that might be another solution for you
[05:54] <SolarisBoy> dig uses your resolver file/setup anyway
[05:54] <Shdwdrgn> "ssh -4" goes right through... I'm still waiting on -6
[05:54] <SolarisBoy> so problem is isolated
[05:54] <GekiritZ> Long story short - I was given a laptop with a busted screen - I hooked up an external display, booted Ubuntu 12.04LTS from USB, installed properly, rebooted from HDD with the external display
[05:54] <phillip69> hello
[05:55] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, if I do "dig -6" from another server within my dmz, the query replies immediately
[05:55] <phillip69> Does anyone know anything about wicd
[05:55] <SolarisBoy> dig uses your resolver/setup
[05:55] <Shdwdrgn> however my point still remains... all of these ipv6 commands were working just fine a couple hours ago before I upgraded to oneiric
[05:55] <SolarisBoy> are you saying those servers have the same setup on top of being in the same lan?
[05:55] <GekiritZ> Ran update manager - it failed somewhere at 80% down the line - I wasn't really concerned, most updates (255) seemed trivial and I decided to take my losses (didn't check where it failed)
[05:55] <GekiritZ> Rebooted
[05:56] <GekiritZ> No more external display
[05:56] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: you can also point dig to a server with dig @<IP_ADDRESS>
[05:56] <GekiritZ> And no more boot as far as I could tel either
[05:56] <SolarisBoy> otherwise its using your resolver configuration....
[05:56] <SolarisBoy> so if its hanging,, you should probably check it
[05:56] <Shdwdrgn> sacarlson, yes that is how I am providing the ipv6 address in my dig commands
[05:56] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: some bind9 or other dns servers will only listen on ipv6 or ipv4
[05:56] <GekiritZ> Tried FN-fkey combos, no avail - tried booting from USB, nothing - tried booting from optical, jack
[05:56] <Shdwdrgn> bind9 is configured to listen on both ipv4 and ipv6
[05:56] <GekiritZ> Complete and utter darkness
[05:57] <GekiritZ> is there a key combo or sequence on boot I'm missing?
[05:57] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: by default your correct but you can config bind9 to listen on just one or the other
[05:57] <gh0ul>  /part
[05:57] <gh0ul> oopsie
[05:57] <Shdwdrgn> oh, also of note... my other servers (also providing ipv6 services) were upgraded from natty to oneiric last week, and none of them are having this problem
[05:57] <GekiritZ> fiy - external does not work on POST or BIOS afaik
[05:58] <Shdwdrgn> sacarlson, yes it *can* be, but mine is specifically configured to listen on both
[05:58] <GekiritZ> So when it's sitting there, idling, with no HDD activity or noticeable processes going on, I have no idea what it's doing
[05:58] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: firewall settings?  you said it's different in dmz
[05:58] <SolarisBoy> so one server out of many is exhibiting this issue Shdwdrgn?
[05:59] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: did you set forwarding for ipv6 ?
[05:59] <GekiritZ> I swapped out the HDD with another one to get some idea of what's going on - but it's basically ubuntu refusing to boot
[05:59] <GekiritZ> Black screen
[05:59] <GekiritZ> Nothing
[05:59] <Shdwdrgn> sacarlson, I did restart shorewall6 (firewall is a physically different machine) just in case, but that did not corredct the issue
[05:59] <GekiritZ> Anyone have any idea?
[05:59] <SolarisBoy> i would look at the _one_ server in the dmz having the issue for differences
[05:59] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: check ipv6 forwarding settings on your router
[06:00] <SolarisBoy> didn't you say another or other servers in the dmz work?
[06:00] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, correct - one server out of four.  All four have now been upgraded to oneiric, but this is the only one giving me a problem.
[06:00] <SolarisBoy> sounds pretty obvious to me
[06:00] <piecemaker> GekiritZ: try unplugging the HDD and boot from usb
[06:00] <SolarisBoy> i dont see why you would look elsewhere
[06:00] <GekiritZ> piece: will do that... didn't think of approaching it from that angle yet
[06:00] <sacarlson> SolarisBoy: Shdwdrgn: if some work it's probly because they have tunnled to ipv6 throught ipv4 and ipv6 is not forwarded
[06:01] <SolarisBoy> i would check that server in comparison to a working one especially assuming they are same/similar || specifically netowkr etc
[06:01] <SolarisBoy> probably
[06:01] <GekiritZ> I just reinstalled ubuntu on the original hdd plugged in another laptop
[06:01] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, I would assume the same thing... the only thing that has changed tonight is that I upgraded this particular machine, and now ipv6 is having problems.  I can only assume this machine is the source of the problem
[06:01] <GekiritZ> and it's booting on fine
[06:01] <piecemaker> GekiritZ: what kind of gpu you have there?
[06:01] <SolarisBoy> Shdwdrgn: i would agree - especially granted that v6 and v4 works on other ones in DMZ right?
[06:02] <GekiritZ> I have no clue - the laptop was given to me by a friend who is as computer savvy as a fried potato
[06:02] <SolarisBoy> so yea - compare _THAT_ server to a working one - specifically network configurations
[06:02] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, yes both v4 and v6 services have all been working fine on the other machines since upgrading
[06:02] <SolarisBoy> ^^
[06:02] <SolarisBoy> or start pasting some valid data..
[06:02] <GekiritZ> As far as any designation on the casing goes, I can only tell you it's a Compaq laptop from the CQ62 series
[06:02] <SolarisBoy> to paste bin
[06:03] <Shdwdrgn> # dig . @2001:470:8388:10:0:100:53:10
[06:03] <GekiritZ> exact type was visible during installation, but at the time didn't figure it would horribly die on me like it did
[06:03] <Shdwdrgn> when I do that from another server, it works fine
[06:03] <SolarisBoy> great
[06:03] <Shdwdrgn> when I do it from another machine, it hangs and times out
[06:03] <piecemaker> GekiritZ: intel or amd cpu?
[06:03] <SolarisBoy> its not helping your situation
[06:03] <GekiritZ> Dammit!
[06:03] <GekiritZ> Piece
[06:03] <SolarisBoy> thats a client your not debugging
[06:03] <GekiritZ> You just made me realize something XD
[06:04] <GekiritZ> The other laptop I installed it on right now is AMD
[06:04] <GekiritZ> the original one with the external display issues is Intel
[06:04] <SolarisBoy> your just getting  a timeout - you can make no assumption to why - use debugging options or commands specifically for debugging
[06:04] <GekiritZ> Is ubuntu designed to handle a carryover?
[06:04] <SolarisBoy> i said ssh -vvv || and also dnstracer
[06:04] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, well obviously the new server is responding to it's IPv6 address, and bind9 is responding to queries on the machine, so it seems that eliminates a networking issue
[06:04] <geeky_bitsian> can anyone please explain me the terms 1.) pinned perf counter,  2.) nonpinned perf counter, 3.) flexible perf counter ?
[06:05] <SolarisBoy> Shdwdrgn: the issue was never the not receiving or receiving of a response was it?
[06:05] <piecemaker> GekiritZ: carryover?
[06:05] <SolarisBoy> it was a latency in multiple prototocls on one machine no?
[06:05] <SolarisBoy> or am i mistaken?
[06:05] <GekiritZ> the compaq I want to get running an external display on ubuntu is an Intel celeron
[06:05] <GekiritZ> Yeah, carryover - installed on hardware config A and then moved to hardware config B by means of swapping harddrives
[06:05] <piecemaker> GekiritZ: so it has intel gmaXXXX gpu
[06:05] <GekiritZ> It most likely does, piece
[06:06] <phillip69> How do i get wicd to work properly on xubuntu
[06:06] <Guest87497> I just installed Ubunto in my labtop Lenovo 3000 N100 but I restarted the laptop, I get black screen with a cursor blinking at the top left corner. Any help to fix this problem?
[06:06] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, good point, let me check if the machine actually receives the queries in a timely manner
[06:06] <SolarisBoy> yea - run debugging commands dude
[06:06] <SolarisBoy> ill brb
[06:06] <gr33n7007h> phillip69, whats the problem
[06:06] <piecemaker> GekiritZ: hmm, good question :)
[06:07] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, ok queries are received via ipv6 immediately
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | Guest87497
[06:07] <phillip69> whenever i try to connect to my wireless card it says Connection Failed Bad Password
[06:07] <SolarisBoy> so whats the problem? it seems you have a very polymorphic issue thats constantly changing
[06:07] <SolarisBoy> does ipv4 work and ipv6 work?
[06:07] <Guest87497> when I boot from the flash disk it is working fine
[06:08] <gr33n7007h> phillip69, what security protocol is it
[06:08] <phillip69> WEP
[06:08] <MrCleanWithHair> Is anyone in here familiar with sikh?
[06:08] <gr33n7007h> phillip69, what interface are you using wired wireless
[06:08] <phillip69> wireless through alfa network card
[06:09] <conflagrant> hi  all
[06:09] <Guest87497> but when I boot from the hard drive I get the blank screen with blinking cursor
[06:09] <gr33n7007h> phillip69, do an ifconfg in terminal and determine the interface
[06:09] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, ipv4 works fine, there are no issues there.  When I dig via ipv6 from another local server, I get the replies.  When I query from a machine from another network, the server receives the query, but the client never gets a reply
[06:09] <Guest87497> I am a Windows guy and I just formated my Windows 7 and install ubunto.
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> Guest87497:  and your video card is a?
[06:10] <shanky_ty> MrCleanWithHair: wat is sikh?
[06:10] <SolarisBoy> so the lan can resolve ipv4 and ipv6 but something is blocking something else going back out
[06:10] <SolarisBoy> and it has nothing to do with one server is what your saying?
[06:10] <MrCleanWithHair> server
[06:11] <CookieM> Guest87497 and what are first impressions?
[06:11] <Guest87497> I do not know what is my video card but when I boot from the flash drive, ubuntu wroks fine
[06:11] <SolarisBoy> do you have your gateways set properly?
[06:11] <siva4080> Gmail and some Bank pages is not opening on Firefox with Wi-Fi connection (all other websites are opening fine). But When I use wired connection , all pages are opening fine including Gmail and Bank pages..  What could be the problem with Wi-Fi ?
[06:11] <shanky_ty> MrCleanWithHair: ne links..?
[06:11] <MrCleanWithHair> naw
[06:11] <phillip69> I tried that and it is picking up but whenever I go to the internet it says Connection Failed Bad Password
[06:11] <MrCleanWithHair> only heard rumors about the sikhs
[06:11] <SolarisBoy> Shdwdrgn: is that a "complex network" ? i see you have a dmz, it kind of implies you enforce rules to get in and out...
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> Guest87497:  so.. try the nomodeset option as stated earlier.. then try to install any extra drivers your card needs
[06:11] <MrCleanWithHair> can't verify anything
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | Guest87497
[06:12] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, I would think it has everything to do with the server that just got upgraded, which is also the server running bind, ssh, etc.  However I don't understand why this one is having troubles, when I can still query bind on the other servers that got upgraded.
[06:12] <Guest87497> what is !nomodeset and how can I start it?
[06:12] <gr33n7007h> phillip69, is it WEP hex or WEP passphrase
[06:12] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, yeah, fairly complex... however the firewall has not been changed, only the server
[06:12] <shanky_ty> MrCleanWithHair: i thought u were talking about religoun lol
[06:12] <phillip69> WEP passphrase
[06:12] <SolarisBoy> Shdwdrgn: have you started doing comparisons yet?
[06:12] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, the server itself has no iptables rules
[06:13] <gr33n7007h> go to preferences in wicd and make sure it WEP passphrase
[06:13] <MrCleanWithHair> shanky_ty, do you know about sikh?
[06:13] <GekiritZ> piecemaker: We're about to find out if it does handle a carryover :P
[06:13] <SolarisBoy> what about gateways - but im confused again - your saying you can't query dns from the dns server itself? it would really help if you put some of the data on a pastie so we can see it
[06:13] <piecemaker> GekiritZ: :D
[06:13] <GekiritZ> piecemaker: just put the HDD back... booting now
[06:14] <Guest87497> I can not use my laptop anymore. Can someone help me? I am very new to Ubuntu
[06:14] <SolarisBoy> like have you tried to tcpdump dns traffic while its happening?
[06:14] <GekiritZ> piecemaker: Works!
[06:14] <Shdwdrgn> SolarisBoy, here's something from syslog that might pertain to the issue?  I see a lot of "imuxsock begins to drop messages from pid..."  The pid in question is slapd, but google search seems to point to imuxsock errors being related to ipv6 issues?
[06:14]  * piecemaker dances :D
[06:14] <shanky_ty> MrCleanWithHair: only a religioun
[06:14]  * GekiritZ dances along
[06:15] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: I note that I see this #net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding=1  in /etc/sysctl.conf so by default ipv6 is not forwarded
[06:15] <phillip69> Ive tried it and its set  right
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | Guest87497  the bot may be down.
[06:15] <GekiritZ> Now - I'll have to see what caused it to fail horribly
[06:15] <MrCleanWithHair> shanky_ty, have you used sikh before any sikh religion or program related to ubuntu that I might beed help with?
[06:15] <GekiritZ> I ran a full range of updates from update manager
[06:15] <GekiritZ> 255 updates total, that failed - rebooted - dead
[06:15] <shanky_ty> MrCleanWithHair: nop
[06:15] <GekiritZ> That's the only lead I have
[06:16] <MrCleanWithHair> kk
[06:16] <Shdwdrgn> sacarlson, I do have net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding=1 uncommented, but thanks
[06:16]  * GekiritZ crosses fingers
[06:16] <siva4080> Do anyone knows why gmail is not working/opening on Wi-Fi ?
[06:16]  * piecemaker crosses too
[06:16] <shanky_ty> [0]
[06:16] <Guest87497> I do not think I have any problem with the video card because when I boot from the flash drive, Ubuntu works fine.
[06:17] <gr33n7007h> phillip69, on your network go to properties
[06:17] <gr33n7007h> in wicd
[06:17] <phillip69> okay
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> Guest87497:  try the nomodeset option on the instaolled system...
[06:17] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: so what is the value at your system that routes for sudo sysctl  net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding ?
[06:18] <gr33n7007h> where it says encryption what does it say
[06:18] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: the one that has the firewall the creates the dmz?
[06:18] <Shdwdrgn> sacarlson, "net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding = 1"
[06:18] <Shdwdrgn> oh, checking firewall now
[06:18] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: so much for that idea then
[06:18] <Shdwdrgn> firewall also =1
[06:18] <GekiritZ> piecemaker: I'm not sure - should I reattempt those updates, facing the danger of reliving that nightmare? :P
[06:18] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: oh ya not on your system the firewalled system
[06:18] <Guest87497> I do not see the menu to select or type any command to go to nomodeset . When I use the flash drive, it goes directly to ubunto desktop
[06:19] <piecemaker> GekiritZ: it's your choice ;)
[06:19] <Shdwdrgn> oddly, my other servers which were upgraded have that value =0, even though they are resolving ipv6 just fine
[06:19] <sacarlson> Shdwdrgn: only the router has to forward not the clients
[06:19] <Shdwdrgn> ah ok
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> Guest87497:  you read the forum post the bot gave you?
[06:20] <Shdwdrgn> could this be causing an issue, since this is the only server that has that value set =1
[06:20] <GekiritZ> piecemaker: At least I can safely say that you can carry around a HDD based installation of Ubuntu to other hardware setups
[06:20] <gr33n7007h> phillip69, have you tried manually connecting to your network?
[06:20] <[|][|][|]> KacoDCC: Why are you sending TIME and VERSION CTCPs?
[06:20] <GekiritZ> It adapted on the spot
[06:21] <[|][|][|]> Who are you trying to hack?
[06:21] <GekiritZ> checking drivers atm
[06:21] <KacoDCC> LOL
[06:21] <KacoDCC> hack?
[06:21]  * KacoDCC rolling on floor
[06:21] <piecemaker> GekiritZ: that's because the kernel itself is compiled to support wide range of devices
[06:21] <nocturnal_> hello computer; im hacking into the system
[06:21] <KacoDCC> hahaha
[06:21] <KacoDCC> hello what TIME is it??? ..... HACKED!!!!
[06:22] <[|][|][|]> Well, yes.  It's quite easy to exploit someone's client if you know what version they are using.
[06:22] <KacoDCC> ok please exploit me
[06:22] <[|][|][|]> Just make a script that versions all the users in a channel to see if they are using a vulnerable client.
[06:22] <[|][|][|]> And voila
[06:22] <nocturnal_> KacoDCC: what ubuntu do you have?
[06:23] <KacoDCC> nocturnal_, Mac OS X 10.7.4 Lion
[06:23] <KacoDCC> :)
[06:23] <nocturnal_> KacoDCC: perfect i'm hacking you now
[06:23] <KacoDCC> yes you can try :)
[06:23] <KacoDCC> and you didn't even need a CTCP
[06:23] <KacoDCC> just a polite ask :-D
[06:23] <nocturnal_> KacoDCC: okay i'm in. now i'm deleting all teh files
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> take it to OT please...
[06:24] <KacoDCC> [|][|][|]: why are you using 3 vaginas as a nick?
[06:24] <KacoDCC> :-D
[06:24] <piecemaker> KacoDCC: can you please give me a password to your account?
[06:24] <KacoDCC> piecemaker, check privmsg
[06:24] <KacoDCC> lol
[06:24] <piecemaker> HACKED!@
[06:24] <KacoDCC> lol is this a hacking club or an ubuntu channel? :)
[06:24] <[|][|][|]> I guess no one here knows about DCC exploits.
[06:24] <KacoDCC> nobody cares
[06:25] <[|][|][|]> Not surprising
[06:25] <rhizmoe> yeah, we're dumb like that. totally new to irc.
[06:25] <KacoDCC> it might be worth to hack to a bank ... not some guy with ubuntu on irc
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> yea. only been ircing since college..
[06:25] <nocturnal_> ...
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> time to gt back to topic..
[06:26] <[|][|][|]> Anywho
[06:26] <KacoDCC> :)
[06:26]  * KacoDCC client restart, brb
[06:26] <rhizmoe> i've got a font problem in unity2d (and 3, i think): http://i.imgur.com/y0cXZ.png ...cyan halo on the top line
[06:27] <KacoDCC> ok since most IRC clients are paranoid about CTCP, I've added such feature to my IRC as well ... it will scream on CTCP :)
[06:27] <slikts> things that don't work well in this os: alt-tab
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> alt tab seems to work fine for me..
[06:28] <slikts> often I can't alt-tab from chrome/chromium, and the target app just shakes the icon in the dock
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> thers always the super+# method to change apps also
[06:28] <slikts> Dr_Willis: just… no
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> !details
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> i did see an issue in beta where chromium having several windows open . would only have one recognized by the unity panel
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> havent noticed that since release
[06:30] <slikts> other things that don't work: rearranging dock. I click and hold a dock icon, and nothing happens
[06:30] <slikts> one more annoyance: when showing desktop and then restoring, all windows get maximized
[06:30] <slikts> quality assurance process for unity is probably called "wishful thinking"
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> slikts:  cant say that i can recreate the problems. anyone else confirm or deny the same issues?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> rants are for other channels. if you want actual support then  act accordingly
[06:31] <slikts> Dr_Willis: good for you
[06:31] <Ormie> Through my experience today, you shouldn't mess with compiz.
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  ;) you break things playing wwith ccsm?
[06:31] <Ormie> yeah
[06:31] <slikts> Dr_Willis: maybe I could look for support, but I need to debug why X process is hogging my CPU
[06:32] <slikts> I have a fast cpu, so it can't be normal that X stays at 10% and often goes to 30-40
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> slikts:  theres been bug reports about X and nvidfia drivers sucking down cpu. ive seen it on my own system. latest batch of updates seems to have fixed it here. but  i havent   been at the pc to test it much this week
[06:33] <slikts> Dr_Willis: I have intel gpu
[06:33] <Ormie> Dr_Willis, now the water effects sticks with my cursor all the time!
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> seen 1 core get 50% ussed in spikes for some reason by X. a restart of the X server fix's it. for a few hours.
[06:34] <slikts> X has now used 80 hrs of cpu time for me in one week
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  ;) i think theres a key combo to toggle that
[06:34] <testi> I have the impression that unity uses the CPU for calculating transparency, slowing down the user-experience . In the old compiz days transparency was calculated on the GPU, so I wonder what's actually going wrong now: I grab a window move it around and while moving I press the Super-Key until the dash help appears. It then looks like as if the dash helps from time to time updates the underlying content, but extremely slow. It actually remin
[06:34] <testi> ds me of the fake-transparency of for example Eterm. I doubt the textures join on GPU I think they are composited earlier. Anyone knows?
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  now you know why theres been discussion of removeing ccsm ;)
[06:34] <Guest28028> Dr_Willis: mine mapped to 4-S-q
[06:35] <slikts> I try to have a conservative setup, using compiz etc, but there's still tons of problems, sometimes introduced by updates
[06:35] <slikts> err, not using compiz but unity 2d
[06:35] <Ormie> Dr_Willis, Now I messed with it and, unity is gone :(
[06:36] <slikts> like one day window resizing just getting broken, the resize grip areas being 1px wide
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  some of the 'tweak' tools had options/buttons to reset gnome/unity/compiz back to defaults. theres commands to do it also
[06:36] <curiousx> Ormie: unity --reset
[06:36] <slikts> there is no way I could recommend ubuntu to nontechnical users after this
[06:36] <slikts> maybe 10.10
[06:37] <slikts> or whichever was the LTS release before unity
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  i recall the webupd8 site having 33 commands in a posting that reset gnome, unity, and compiz
[06:37] <rhizmoe> i just upgraded to 12.04 from 10.10 24hrs ago
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> slikts:  again.. rants are ot for here.
[06:38] <slikts> Dr_Willis: no wonder
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> yes.. we do wonder...
[06:39] <slikts> eh? I mean no wonder you don't want rants, since an os this broken makes people rant a lot
[06:39] <pavel_> slikts: :)
[06:39] <Ormie> Setting Update "run_key" and nothing happens?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> we wonder why the idea of 'this  is a support channel not a ranting channel' is so hard to understand..
[06:39] <pavel_> slikts: I admit you're right
[06:39] <slikts> Dr_Willis: I understand it, but just don't care
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> take it to the ot chsnnel if you dont care.
[06:40] <slikts> it's not like you're going to fix the os even if I provide details etc
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> you would just find somthing else to complain about.
[06:40] <slikts> good one
[06:40] <Ormie> u know what, i think i broke the system again.
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  what do you mean run-key?
[06:40] <slikts> dismiss my problems as personal
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> Ormie: you bad boy.
[06:40] <GekiritZ> piecemaker: Alright... now... rebooting
[06:40] <Ormie> Dr_Willis, No
[06:41] <GekiritZ> piecemaker: triplechecked as much as I can... Just hoping it will work now
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  you could reset all your user settings. but thats a bit extreme
[06:41] <GekiritZ> piecemaker: We have liftoff!!!
[06:41] <Ormie> Dr_Willis, It says "Setting Update "run_key" and nothing happens
[06:41] <slikts> what is the unity launcher doing that it takes so long to show?
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  what did you do that said that?
[06:41] <Ormie> unity --reset
[06:42] <Ormie> while on unity
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  did the panel flash then close then comeback?
[06:42] <vadimkolchev> hi all. got a problem with sound. I've got acer aspire one and my microphone is not capturing anything. In sound preferences it is greyed out. What can be done about that?
[06:42] <Ormie> yes
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  that command will not reset compiz however.
[06:42] <Ormie> ?
[06:42] <Ormie> where is my woobly windows?
[06:43] <slikts> wobbly windows is luxury I've given up on long ago >>
[06:43] <Ormie> lol
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> wobbly windows made my wife puke.
[06:44] <slikts> your wife is bugged
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[06:44] <slikts> if it was possible, I'd have wobbly everything
[06:45] <Ormie> CTRL+ALT+Backspace?
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> shows the 3 commands to totally reset unity, compiz and gnome i belive
[06:45] <toafan_> is "the list of changes is not available, please use launchpad" on the update manager just me, or is it a bug?
[06:46] <vadimkolchev> hi all. got no input in sound preferences, therefore my laptop microphone is not working. Can anyone help me with that?
[06:47] <Ormie> I hate blur windows in compiz.
[06:48] <Quackmac3000> hey, this is teh support chat for ubuntu, yes?
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> i find the trend in having transparent effects/windows/dialogs - makes things less readabvle for me.
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> looke like theres somthing on the screen.. oh wait. its the image under the  dialog box showing through..
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  you got the system back to sanity?
[06:49] <Ormie> Dr_Willis, yes. and I am messing with compiz again.
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  and now ya know how to reset it. ;)
[06:50] <Ormie> yeah.
[06:50] <Batshua> Hey guys?
[06:50] <Batshua> I'm using xfce. Where do I find the flash settings?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  neat trickis to use the window-placement plugin to set dialogs like the file copy  box to be 'always on top' ;)
[06:51] <Ormie> Dr_Willis, My computer was usable enough when after I did "unity --reset" so I enable CTRL+ALT+Backspace.  Where can I see desktop cube
[06:54] <Quackmac3000> nightmare situation here
[06:54] <ehmatthes> Can anyone help troubleshoot a networking issue?  I'm trying to telnet using port 5000 (telnet rendezvous.heroku.com 5000), but I get a 'no route to host' error.
[06:54] <slikts> Dr_Willis: google says that 2d is going away in 12.10 as well
[06:55] <SolarisBoy> ehmatthes: is port 5000 listening or is their a firewall on that host?
[06:55] <slikts> this makes me sad, there is no place for people like me who like docks and linux
[06:55] <Chuck_Norris> Quackmac3000: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX
[06:55] <Batshua> Quackmac3000: I'm not sure that's fixable without using a LiveCD and wiping everything?
[06:55] <Batshua> Or… Chuck_Norris might know something I don't.
[06:55] <Chuck_Norris> maybe :D
[06:55] <Quackmac3000> I WANT to wipe it, i dont care about anything on the drive
[06:55] <Chuck_Norris> xD
[06:55] <slikts> linux world is dominated by non-dock troglodytes
[06:56] <SolarisBoy> lol
[06:56] <ehmatthes> SolarisBoy: I disabled the firewall on my modem, if that answers your question.
[06:56] <Quackmac3000> i just want to boot another system and be done with this
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/05/ubuntu-developer-summit-keynote
[06:56] <SolarisBoy> ehmatthes: no route to host on a port connection is common of the port not being up or a reponse from a firewall
[06:56] <SolarisBoy> if you can ping it , its likely not a route thing
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Ormie: the cube and unity are known to conflict with each other. ;)
[06:57] <pidgin-surabaya> how to connect my pidgin to this channel ??
[06:57] <SolarisBoy> pidgin-surabaya: add your irc account to pidgin
[06:57] <Quackmac3000> I need a way to do it with a usb flash drive, too, because im useing netbooks
[06:57] <ehmatthes> SolarisBoy: Can you suggest any settings to adjust on my modem?  I have poked around in the modem interface, googled, with no results.  I called the ISP, and they are not blocking any ports.
[06:58] <SolarisBoy> ehmatthes: can you confirm port 5000 is actually listening?
[06:58] <Chuck_Norris> Quackmac3000: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[06:58] <Quackmac3000> what do i do, just boot up again?
[06:58] <Ormie> Dr_Willis, you mean the whole "unity" is conflict with cube?
[06:59] <ehmatthes> SolarisBoy: Is that a netstat command?
[06:59] <SolarisBoy> no
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  enabling cube can break unity
[06:59] <slikts> Ormie: why do you hate yourself? trying to use those features can just cause pain >>
[06:59] <Chuck_Norris> in these link, there is a tutorial for installing ubuntu into the usb flash drive
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  the webupd8 or omgubuntu blog site has a guide on using the cube in unity. if you  want to experiment
[07:01] <Quackmac3000> i know how too install linux, what i need to know is wither or not that will format a encrypted harddrive.
[07:01] <Batshua> I have no idea, I have never tried.
[07:01] <Batshua> It's worth a shot?
[07:02] <Chuck_Norris> Quackmac3000: try it, i solved it one time with an HP notebook that has some recovery partitioins that's don't let me install ubuntu on it
[07:02] <Chuck_Norris> i solve it with: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX
[07:03] <Quackmac3000> earlier today i started useing ubuntu. i made myself sole admin, and i encrypted the harddrive.
[07:03] <Quackmac3000> i locked myself out by deleteing my password
[07:04] <Quackmac3000> and now i cant do anything with the damn thing. i tried loading another distro and it didnt work.
[07:04] <Chuck_Norris> with a live cd and the partition that you wanna to format unmounted, there is no admins previlegies
[07:05] <Chuck_Norris> privileges* =P
[07:05] <Quackmac3000> well, i know that. i only mention that as the reason for me doing this in the first place.
[07:05] <slikts> also, what happens to computers without hw acceleration if unity 2d is removed? that means virtual machines, for instance
[07:05] <Chuck_Norris> well, a flash usb live i meant
[07:05] <ehmatthes> SolarisBoy: Sorry, how do I check if port 5000 is actually listening?  btw, I took my laptop to work today, and I could run this command on that network.  So I don't think it's my computer, I think it's my modem.
[07:06] <question> Hello, I need help hardening my ubuntu install.
 ehmatthes, $ netstat -an | grep 5000
[07:09] <Ormie> I promise (or even swear) you guys I will Never use compiz again. It made my system unstable.
[07:10] <reisio> Ormie: nonsense
[07:10] <reisio> it might have made your window management unstable
[07:10] <Ormie> Now I have to do fresh install :(
[07:10] <reisio> uh, no, no you don't
[07:10] <Ormie> ?
[07:10] <reisio> fresh installs are for closed source OSes
[07:10] <Ormie> ?
[07:10] <ehmatthes> SolarisBoy, SoniQ: I get nothing from that command. The only change I've made is connecting to my home network instead of work network.  Does that change what is listening?
[07:13] <Ormie> hey, i um... i think ubuntu should make the built-in version upgrade system better, though.
[07:15] <swattor> hi all
[07:16] <swattor> i just got a fresh bunch of updates from -proposed - and it's saying that there are untrusted packages in there :-/
[07:16] <reisio> swattor: what version of Ubuntu?
[07:17] <reisio> Ormie: lot of room for improvement
[07:17] <swattor> reisio: 12.04
[07:17] <Ormie> ?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> given how old the apt system is.. its amazing in how well it works.
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> packagte mangement is an amazingly complex task :)
[07:21] <jernej> does anyone here use gitolite on ubuntu ?
[07:22] <neo1691> Hey guys, i have installed ccsm but the changes that i do in that have no effect on ubuntu and also when i click on myunity it says Your Ubuntu 12.04 is running in 2D mode.
[07:24] <slikts> apt system doesn't work well since it doesn't allow local packages
[07:25] <slikts> it also makes packaging too complex, and you can't easily have multiple versions of packages
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> neo1691:  that makes sence.. unity2d does not use compiz
[07:25] <neo1691> Dr_Willis, how to switch to 3d then?
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> neo1691:  at the login screen there should be a unity/ubuntu and  a unity2d item in the menu. assuming you have your proper 3d drivers installed it should be that simple
[07:27] <neo1691> Dr_Willis, There are two options ubuntu an ubuntu2D, but i always log in using ubuntu, not ubuntu2d
[07:27] <Jon--> Since moving to Ubuntu 12.04 with gnome-session-fallback, I have no battery indicator in the notification area. How can I fix this?
[07:28] <Jon--> I am running on battery power at the moment.
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> neo1691:  its kicking into 2d mode - most likely because you dont have your video drivers set upo right.
[07:29] <proy> I have two identical systems with mdadm raid5, both having 4 x 2TB disks. One the second system RAID5 goes for a resync often when the machine reboots. Any idea what could be the reason. using 12.04
[07:29] <fasta> Is there some firewall builder tool which is just as easy to use and featured as Windows Firewall?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> !firewall
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> featuresets will be differnet - because thee 2 os's handle firewalling in very differnt ways.
[07:30] <neo1691> Dr_Willis, Should i use the nvidia X driver?
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> neo1691:  if you have an nvidia card.. yes.
[07:30] <neo1691> I do have an nvidia 2gigs geforce card
[07:31] <StarryNight> me 2
[07:31] <Jon--> Since moving to Ubuntu 12.04 with gnome-session-fallback, I have no battery indicator in the notification area. How can I fix this?
[07:32] <fasta> Dr_Willis: how can I use custom paths for the programs to block in the firewall?
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> Jon--:  ive seen alternative battery/power indicator applets at the askubuntu.com site in their 'list of indicator applets' posting. but i dont  use  the fallback mode. so no idea what ones work in it
[07:32] <fasta> Dr_Willis: that's something Windows firewall can do and apparently gufw cannot.
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> fasta:  Huh?
[07:32] <Jon--> Dr_Willis, Fallback is gnome-classic-no-effects
[07:32] <fasta> Dr_Willis: trust me: what I said makes sense.
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> windows blocks on a per app basis i belive vs linux blocking on a port bassis. differnt ways of doing firewalling.. if i recll some firewalling guide i read ages ago.
[07:33] <fasta> Dr_Willis: so, you basically didn't answer my question?
[07:33] <Jon--> The default is fine, no idea why it's not there. The package for it is installed.
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> been ages sinve ive had to mess with firewalls in linux.   Linux blocks on ports.. windows blocks on per app. is about all i recall from what i read 3+ yrs ago
[07:34] <fasta> Dr_Willis: so, next time, do not answer.
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> fasta:  grow up.
[07:34] <fasta> Dr_Willis: If you were one of my machines that I trained in the lab to respond to user questions, I would think of you as a failed experiment.
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> again.. grow up..
[07:35] <fasta> Dr_Willis: learn to read, I'd say.
[07:35] <benjo> hi
[07:36] <Naemdar> So doing the 12.04 upgrade, *crosses fingers*
[07:36] <Jon--> fasta, Custom paths?   Figure it out.
[07:39] <hbro> oh man, I take one look at this channel and already there's a flame war abrewing :p
[07:39] <fasta> Jon--: ignorant person, but yes.
[07:39] <abhilash> Does anybody know the solution for DNS DDoS attack?
[07:39] <abhilash> VERY URGENT
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> hbro:  its a slow day
[07:39] <fasta> abhilash: pay Amazon.
[07:39] <abhilash> PLEASE HELP ME
[07:39] <reisio> abhilash: reliable hosting
[07:39] <fasta> abhilash: or some other large company; for $100K you should be fine.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> abhilash:  we cant  without details. and its not clear on how this is ubuntu relateed.
[07:39] <reisio> doesn't take money, just simple countermeasures
[07:40] <hbro> abhilash: strict iptable rules?
[07:40] <proy> +1  Dr_Willis
[07:40] <hbro> Dr_Willis: true that, not quite ubuntu-related
[07:40] <abhilash> yeah.. Its a attack from chineese IP's
[07:40] <fasta> reisio: simple counter measures? Very doubtful.
[07:40] <OliverW> hbro, exactly... ask fasta about it... he's great with iptables :P
[07:40] <abhilash> getting PING drop frequently on the server
[07:40] <hbro> well now, I feel quite at home here
[07:40] <Ormie> abhilash, do you know how to DDOS?
[07:40] <fasta> OliverW: I read a few hundred pages of documentation on iptables.
[07:41] <hbro> too bad Linux helpdesk is not my job
[07:41] <abhilash> I used IP table rules, but its persistsing
[07:41] <fasta> OliverW: I know exactly how it works; I just think it is a broken system.
[07:41]  * Dr_Willis wonders how a dns ddos attack differs from other ddos atttcks
[07:41] <abhilash> its come from different IP's
[07:41] <Womkes> Hey, what would you guys recommend I use to mirror data on two servers? I currently have 1 server in a data center with vmware on it. But I have two identical servers at home I wish to replace my setup with. I would like to have a low-tech failover/mirror setup. I would like to use some kind of visualization technology like Xen or KVM. And I was thinking I want to use LVM volumes for the virtual machines and somehow keep the data in sync between se
[07:41] <Womkes> rvers. Would DRBD be a good solution for this? Please advise.
[07:41] <slikts> dns ddos floods port 53?
[07:41] <Jon--> fasta, iptables has a --pid-owner. Use that.
[07:41] <abhilash> thats why we can't prevent through IPTABLES
[07:41] <fasta> Jon--: that's not what I originally asked.
[07:41] <r3becca> does extundelete stand any chance of working on a ecryptfs encrypted home directory?
[07:42] <fasta> How hard can it be to just say 'No, Ubuntu is inferior to Windows 7 in this regard.'?
[07:42] <Jon--> Yes it is.  Learn to grep ps aux for the pid on that port and learn iptables. Giving people like me attitude means we're not going to help you figure that out.
[07:42] <fasta> Or to say 'Use program X.'?
[07:42] <abhilash> slikts :: yes its 53
[07:42] <Jon--> Now you're just trolling.
[07:42] <Ormie> abhilash, PM
[07:42] <Bower^> i've just installed ubuntu. it's really nice but there's one problem. i keep receiving a notification that "wired network disconnected". does anyone know why this is? it happens quite frequently and the connection seems fine
[07:42] <fasta> Jon--: no, I am not trolling. You are spinning around the question.
[07:43] <reisio> it's pretty simple to block requests of a certain frequency and origin
[07:43] <slikts> I know nothing about preventing ddos, but I imagine there could be some adaptive firewall that automatically blocks abusing ips based on some heuristic
[07:43] <fasta> Jon--: it has a very definite answer. So far, Windows Firewall has been superior to any GUI tool presented to you from Ubuntu.
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> fasta: In some cases, Win7 is better, it's the nature of all software..
[07:43] <hbro> reisio: indeed
[07:43] <OliverW> fasta, I'm scrolling back a bit... you want to block a certain program on a certain outgoing port?
[07:43] <Jon--> fasta, Key words are "GUI tool". If you want GUI tools for networking tools and firewalling, go back to Windows.
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> abhilash:  theres those tools like fail2ban and otheres that can automatically setup filters
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> Jon--: what's wrong with firestarter?
[07:44] <fasta> ActionParsnip: now, if someone would just have said that right from the start, there wouldn't have a need for an annoying 'discussion'.
[07:44] <slikts> for all its faults, windows has many features more advanced than *nix, like ACLs, filesystem (ntfs) etc
[07:44] <reisio> not simple enough for Freenode staff, of course
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> fasta: tried firestarter as a GUI?
[07:44] <fasta> slikts: Linux also has ACLs.
[07:44] <slikts> fasta: you're an acl
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> fasta: or switch to ufw and use gufw....
[07:44] <Jon--> ActionParsnip, I have no experience with GUIs to iptables tbh. apparently ufw doesn't have an option to block on pid.  It's all based on the proc id on Unix systems). 3) Continue to be arrogant to those trying to help you.    Come on ops now, wake up...
[07:49] <reisio> Corey: not to notify ops, just to mock the spam their bot commands generate :p
[07:49] <hbro> bkerensa: +1
[07:49]  * sauvin notes wrily that mockery is often poorly appreciated
[07:49] <angs> does anyone know what is the command to check ABI version of my distribution?
[07:49] <fasta> ActionParsnip: guarddog isn't in my repositoty.
[07:50] <fasta> repository*
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> fasta: are you using kde?
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> angs:  clarify for me what ABI is..  its 4 am here.
[07:50] <fasta> ActionParsnip: I also use kde.
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> fasta: tried ufw?
[07:50] <reisio> sauvin: that's like the narrator describing his own delivery dude ;P
[07:50] <proy> angs: what is ABI ?
[07:50] <fasta> ActionParsnip: ufw seems to be more of a command line tool.
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> fasta: gufw exists....
[07:51] <fasta> ActionParsnip: but gufw doesn't allow custom paths to block programs.
[07:51] <fasta> ActionParsnip: like I explained 10 times now.
[07:51] <sauvin> Application Binary Interface, iirc. The "as-compiled" interfaces bewteen applications and the libraries they call or the underlying kernel.
[07:51] <Jon--> Does it allow you to specify a PID?
[07:51] <fasta> Jon--: do you even know what a PID is?
[07:51] <Jon--> Yes I do
[07:51] <Corey> fasta: That's about enough of the attitude, please.
[07:51] <fasta> Corey: I am getting spammed by noise.
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> Jon--: the pid may be different each time a process is spawned
[07:51] <NielsMkn> hey guys
[07:52] <NielsMkn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/PreciseJackDetectionTesting
[07:52] <NielsMkn> How do I try this out?
[07:52] <Jon--> I was going to suggest a script, but if it's killed the PID would change
[07:52] <Jon--> Probably not the best solution anyway.
[07:52] <Corey> Jon--: Eh, pgrep can work around that potentially.
[07:52] <fasta> Jon--: no, not the best solution. Please, just go idling or something.
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> fasta: does the process us it's own port or is it random?
[07:53] <Corey> Jon--: Alterately, you can reinvent the wheel with ps piped to awk or cut. :-)
[07:53] <fasta> ActionParsnip: it could be random.
[07:53] <hbro> seems the other side of the DDNS problem earlier is here
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> fasta: is it possible to make it static?
[07:54] <fasta> ActionParsnip: please don't try to change the problem.
[07:54] <fasta> ActionParsnip: I was semi-happy with the 'Windows 7 is better in this regard' answer.
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> fasta: but it makes sense to set it to some high port number and static then block that port, doesn't it..
[07:54] <fasta> ActionParsnip: no
[07:54] <NielsMkn> ActionParsnip, can you tell me how to get 3.2.0-11.19 kernel?
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> fasta: maybe but we are dealing with the issue in Ubuntu, this isn't a contest, it's dealing with the issue at hand
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> NielsMkn: you'll need the debs
[07:55] <fasta> ActionParsnip: it's really simple: if I ask a question, I want to have that question answered, not some question you or anyone happens to know the answer to.
[07:55] <NielsMkn> hmm, and will it work if I have a higher version already?
[07:56] <bkerensa> !attitude | fasta
[07:56] <Corey> fasta: Again, you might want to tone down your approach a smidgen.  We try t be a happier, friendly channel. :-)
[07:56] <fasta> ActionParsnip: if nobody knows the answer, fine.
[07:56] <ashankar> Hi all, running kubuntu 12.04, how do I install debug packages for /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.5 (owned by libkdeui5) and /usr/lib/libkcmutils.so.4 (owned bykdelibs5-dev ) ?
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> fasta: then I have no other suggestions. I have given a possible solution which is quite simple. Your call
[07:56] <NielsMkn> ActionParsnip, this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/PreciseJackDetectionTesting says that audio detection is available for that kernel version. Will the detection be there for higher versions as well?
[07:56] <fasta> ActionParsnip: well, then thanks for trying, but just saying 'I don't know' would have been better for my needs.
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> fasta: why, it doesn't solve the issue. I gave a solution which will work
[07:58] <fasta> ActionParsnip: no, it doesn't.
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> NielsMkn: Precise has a later kernel than you said, is it not in that too?
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> fasta: why won't it work?
[07:59] <fasta> ActionParsnip: because it was a random port, remember?
[07:59] <fasta> Also, Jon-- starts to spam me with" I can't believe none of the ops can see you're trolling.   Either way, don't waste the time of those here to help people.  Please just accept that you are.
[08:00] <Jon--> I didn't say it in here because the language is inappropriate.
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> fasta: make it a static port, then block that
[08:00] <Agrajag-> hi, after installing 12.04, my monitor goes to "no signal" shortly after grub (way before X though). i can get it to work by adding "nomodeset" to the kernel params but then the nouveau driver doesn't work because nomodeset disables KMS. i'm not entirely sure what's going on here, how do i get it to work without nomodeset?
[08:00] <fasta> ActionParsnip: that would involve modifying the program.
[08:00] <Corey> That's enough of that.
[08:00] <Womkes> Was it a careless whipser Jon--  ?
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> fasta: is there not a setting for the app?
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> fasta: what app are you trying to block?
[08:02] <hbro> fasta: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/120 ?
[08:03] <hbro> the "owner" module of iptables has a --pid-id argument
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> been readin g some neat info at --    http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/15476/configure-linux-to-allow-network-activity-based-on-binary
[08:03] <hbro> Dr_Willis: looks interesting from the url alone
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> fasta: what app / service is it please?
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> hbro:  goes into details and sort of explains   where i got the 'windows and linux approach firewalling from differnt directions' idea
[08:05] <r3becca> does extundelete stand any chance of working on a ecryptfs encrypted home directory?
[08:06] <hbro> Dr_Willis: interesting conclusion too
[08:06] <hbro> "Unix is based on user-ID: if you want security isolation, use a different UID. This resource is cheap."
[08:06] <hbro> best solution anyways
[08:08] <hbro> r3becca: http://gimi.name/snippets/undelete-ecryptfs-encrypted-files/ ?
[08:08] <hbro> no personal experience though
[08:08] <stueng> whats the offf topic channel please?
[08:09] <DJones> !ot | stueng
[08:09] <stueng> ty
[08:09] <NielsMkn> btw pulseaudio 2 is awesome :D
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> 2x better then pulse audio?
[08:11] <r3becca> hbro: cool link, thanks! :D
[08:11] <hbro> r3becca: quick google did the trick ;)
[08:11] <daze> I set my default video player to GNOME Mplayer in Ubuntu 12.04 All Settings -> Details -> Default Applications.  Nothing happens. Mplayer is still the default :/
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> daze: gnome-mplayer is just a GUI for mplayer, it achieves the same thing surely.
[08:12] <daze> yeah, but I like the gui better :)
[08:12] <daze> and some key bindings are different
[08:12] <Jon--> Since moving to Ubuntu 12.04 with gnome-session-fallback, I have no battery indicator in the notification area. How can I fix this? Last crack at getting a hand before bed
[08:13] <geirha> daze: You've likely overridden it on given filetypes
[08:13] <daze> and where are these set?
[08:13] <NielsMkn> Dr_Willis, not sure. But it does sort a lot of my problems :D
[08:14] <NielsMkn> ok gtg later
[08:14] <hbro> Jon--: right click -> add applet or something?
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> acutallyu isent it alt or ctrl right click now?
[08:15] <Jon--> hbro, the notification area is on the panel, no battery inside of it
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> i never use the fallback mode. its got some differances then the one gnome
[08:15] <hbro> Dr_Willis: not sure, using kde here
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> could be the battery is not seen. is why its not showing
[08:16] <Jon--> Dr_Willis, If you're familiar with gnome-classic, AFAIK they're nearly identical. Fallback disables compiz and enables metacity, that's about the only diff
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> Jon--: alt+shift+right click maybe what is needed, could just use xfce, its got the gnome2 smell
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> Jon--:  theres some little changes like the right click needing a metga key i recall seeing in here.
[08:16] <Jon--> It's <Suoer> + <alt> + right
[08:16] <Jon--> For classic on 12.04
[08:18] <Jon--> In any matter, the panel app that should have the battery is on the panel (notification area, unless I'm missing a different one?) and I have nothing.
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> !panel
[08:18] <Jon--> network status is there, for example
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> do the cli tools show the battery stgatus?
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> !fixpanel
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> status
[08:18] <Jon--> Dr_Willis, apci works fine
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> !panels
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> may help Jon-- ^
[08:18] <Jon--> Eh, whatever the cli is
[08:19] <Jon--> acpi**
[08:19] <Jon--> ActionParsnip, Did not fix the issue.
[08:19] <Jon--> Removed my xchat from there too :( I'll have to re add that manually now.
[08:21] <tiox> Some unusual news from the 3G front; I was able to trick my modem into being used in 12.04. And it's a dirty trick.
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> it reset the indicatop-applet/systray item ;)
[08:21] <Jon--> Oo, interesting.
[08:22] <tiox> I habe 12.04 and 11.10 on the same hard drive. zI first boot into the 11.10 installation, and I establish my 3G connection, blah blah blah, it works... well, except this time it didn't.
[08:22] <Jon--> there is an indicator-applet-complete that contains the battery. The regular indicator-applet (the default) does not.
[08:22] <tiox> But, whe I have "Mobile Brnadband Enabled" on, then I reboot and go into the 12.04 installation, something must either still be in memory, or in the hard disk (swap possibly) that tricks the selection to pop up in the Network manager there.
[08:23] <tiox> I enable it, I select my device, and I can use it.
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> tiox: can you pastebin the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsusb
[08:23] <tiox> I am too damn tired.
[08:24] <tiox> Maybe tomorrow.
[08:24] <hbro> tiox: dirty trick indeed
[08:24] <Jon--> Now the only issue I have with the panel is what I believe to be a glrx one. Panel transparency is not found in applets like menu, notification-area, indicator-applet, etc. Instead of getting settings from panel, they get it from the theme. And there is nothing in the gtkrc for the theme that I can see to fix it. :(
[08:25] <tiox> When i wake up, if somebody leaves a PM for me to do so, I'll do it.
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> tiox: we'll need the output to help. When you are ready we'll be here :D
[08:25] <tiox> That or it'll just come to mind.
[08:25] <hbro> sleep over it, that usually works for me
[08:25] <tiox> So, lsb-release -a, uname -a and lsusb huh?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> tiox: all 3, it's one command
[08:25] <Jon--> Gah, too many binary names in linux. Not glrx but... Something GNOME related, tired and failing at name.
[08:26] <Ormie> I think ubuntu should improve the version upgrade system. Burning CD/DVD is not a green solution
[08:27] <tiox> I have it in a notepad on WIndows, I will see it first thing.
[08:27] <Jon--> Ormie, USB is an option
[08:27] <DJones> Ormie: You don't need to burn a cd/dvd to upgrade, thats done over the internet, or you could use a live usb
[08:27] <tiox> Then Ill do it and paste the output to interested parties.
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: you can mount the ISO then run the upgrade there
[08:27] <Jon--> Ormie, And if you're referring to upgrading, there's always do-release-upgrade. Unless you are purposely clean installing.
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: a physical CD and an ISO are the same difference is Ubuntu...
[08:28] <Anomie21> I followed this guide here to try and find out if my server was sending out any spam. http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-log-emails-sent-with-phps-mail-function-to-detect-form-spam  -- I created the mailtest.php as suggested at the bottom of the guide but nothing appeared in my mail.log. Should using the same exact commands here work in Ubuntu 11.10?
[08:30] <Ormie> Jon--, Some BIOS doesn't support boot from USB
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: there uis a floppy image on pendrivelinux to boot to which will then boot USB
[08:31] <Ormie> ok
[08:31] <Jon--> Ormie, Burn one disk, install Ubuntu, turn it into a PXE server, keep it upgraded..... Just kidding ;). Your best bet is what ActionParsnip recommends.
[08:31] <Ormie> yeah
[08:31] <Ormie> ok
[08:32] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, You are a weird person (in a good way.)
[08:33] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, What do you do to get a wiki for yourself?
[08:33] <freddy__> Hi - I'm having problems with my ubuntuone. http://pastebin.com/V3Aj3BwZ
[08:35] <ikonia> freddy__: the $DISPLAY variable is not set
[08:35] <ikonia> freddy__: that normally happens when you issue the command using the root account, but it doesn't look like you are doing that here
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: access the page then click Edit to edit it and make it (if memory serves)
[08:36] <Ormie> that is so simple.
[08:36] <freddy__> ikonia: i have a ssh from another machine .. is that a problem ?
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: sorry, 'Create new empty page'
[08:36] <ikonia> freddy__: yes, I suspect that is the core issue
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: most things in Linxu are dude ;)
[08:36] <ikonia> freddy__: it needs a gui/wants an X11 environment
[08:36] <Ormie> ok
[08:37] <freddy__> ikonia: ok - I'll try from there and ask again a bit later ..
[08:37] <freddy__> thanx
[08:37] <ikonia> freddy__: also look at ssh -X
[08:38] <JoFo_> Hello
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> freddy__: or:  ssh -X -C username@host
[08:39] <freddy__> ActionParsnip: ok - thanx ... and in /etc/ssh/ssh_fig uncomment the Forwardx yes.. right ?
[08:39] <Ormie> I am going to build an app for ubuntu and show it in the app store, I know "quickly" is an option but I want to make a Command line user interface app. How?
[08:40] <Ormie> replace make to publish
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> freddy__: X forwarding is default enabled in Ubuntu
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> 'quickly' ?
[08:40] <JoFo_> Hello
[08:40] <JoFo_> How can I add support for KMFL on IBus? (Ubuntu Precise)
[08:40] <freddy__> ActionParsnip: ok - thanks
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> freddy__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028222/
[08:41] <hbro> ssh tunneling ftw
[08:42] <hbro> bye bye work proxy and fw restrictions
[08:42] <freddy__> ActionParsnip: ah ... yes :-)
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> i need to learn more tunneling fu skills and vpn basics. )
[08:43] <Ormie> Oh and I saw a spelling mistake in ubuntu website.
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> like if i set up openvpn on my ubuntu box. and set my android to use it. I go to McDonalds where they gor their wifi very blocked.. will it still get 'full' acccess to the internet via the vpn?
[08:44] <Kartagis> Ormie: where?
[08:44] <Ormie> Kartagis, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[08:44] <hbro> Dr_Willis: depends on your setup, but I'd imagine so
[08:44] <Ormie> Before you start the upgrade, we recommend that you read the release notes for Ubuntu 12.04, which which include workarounds for any problems you might encounter.
[08:44] <Kartagis> Dr_Willis: as long as you transfer DNS, yea
[08:44] <Ormie> "which which"
[08:45] <Ormie> why are there to which?
[08:45] <Ormie> 2
[08:45] <hbro> should start getting a more vpn-ish setup too, not just ssh tunneling
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> dns is not automatically transfered eh? or may be an option i guess..
[08:45] <freddy__> ubuntuone ... now I get this error, anyone have seen this before? http://pastebin.com/XYDjzysn
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> been looking at some of the proxy/btguard/vpn type tools and services out there.
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> seems like  a cheap way to gain some nice features and more security
[08:46] <JoFo_> In the software center I see scim-kmfl-imengine but I see no kmfl-imengine for IBus : http://colson.eu/Capture_du_2012-06-07_05:22:03.png . What could I do?
[08:47] <Kartagis> Ormie: yea, error
[08:47] <Ormie> yeah
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> so if you have pc1 set to use a VPN, can you still ssh to it via its ip#? or must you also connect to the vpn then ssh to it from pc2 ?
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> if both  are on the same lan.
[08:48] <Kartagis> Dr_Willis: http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html#redirect
[08:49] <Kartagis> Dr_Willis: you could also use ssh tunneling, that's what I am doing because of subnet restriction
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> vpn is just such a 'complex' new thing. im ued to the old skool stuff ;) hard to get a 'big picture' of how it works ;)
[08:49] <Kartagis> ssh -D and proxy
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> was going to get a comercial vpn for a month or 2 to play  with. then perhaps try openvpn.
[08:51] <taquter> Dr. Bruce WIllis.
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> gotta love reading sites wherre every other term is some  marketing buzzword that you are not clear on  the meaning. :) and wouldent add any value to the  information if you did know what it ment.
[08:58] <tiox3G> ActionParsnip: So I cannot sleep and did it anyway.
[08:58] <tiox3G> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1028243/
[08:58] <tiox3G> Is it such a problem when 12.04 was installed, that lsb-release was not installed?
[08:58] <tiox3G> Cannot seem to be found at all, according to the 12.04 terminal.
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: no need to become root, users can run the commands
[08:59] <Stopi> hi, got a strange issue with internet connection
[08:59] <tiox3G> And yes, I am on 12.04, using my 3G connection. When I disconnect and reconnected before it worked, but then when I physically disconnect it from USB I cannot get it back.
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: lsb_release   not lsb-release
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: there is a difference..
[08:59] <tiox3G> Fragging
[09:00] <Stopi> firefox get connection but not thunderbird (using same proxy settings)
[09:00] <slikts> does it happen for others too that if you use the Inspect function in Chrome or Chromium and then try to use Alt-Tab, the window doesn't change?
[09:00] <Stopi> any idea ?
[09:00] <legoff> Hello
[09:00] <slikts> at least in Unity 2D
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> jello legoff
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: is it an LG 3G device?
[09:01] <tiox3G> Yes.
[09:01] <tiox3G> Also, it's trhe same result as thre 11.10 output anyway; No LSB modules.
[09:02] <tiox3G> I'l; fix and re-post anyway.,
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G   search for vendor=0x1004   just need to change the product to: product=0x6141
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> i thought you had to give lsb_release -a  option to get all the info. :)
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> never seen it givve  any info without some option
[09:03] <tiox3G> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1028250/
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> i woild think there would be some default option  like -a by default. ;)  but im just an old neck-beard so what do i know.
[09:04] <tiox3G> ActionParsnip: Could I just like, use the Network Manager PPA and use latest trunk?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: its not network manager, its the driver module
[09:05] <tiox3G> Balls. Well alright, I'll see where I can find to change the stuff I need.
[09:08] <tiox3G> OKay ActionParsnip I am too tired to care.
[09:08] <tiox3G> Where exactly do I go to change the device info from 0x1004 to 0x6141?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: you will need a config file in /etc/modprobe.d
[09:10] <tiox3G> And how do I produce this file, if not already existent?
[09:11] <|ntegra|> tiox3G: hi what are you doing?
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: read the guide, it'll tell you everythng
[09:11] <freddy__> I would like to ask how to solve ubuntuone problem with one of my machines. nautilus hangs when using ubuntuone, and synching does not seem to happen.. its a 5 GB sync so it should take long but not SO long. It has taken weeks and is not done yet. I get many errors when using cli commands on it, fx: http://pastebin.com/XYDjzysn
[09:12] <tiox3G> ???
[09:12] <tiox3G> Ohm okay,.
[09:12] <djglobalbot> freddy__: install xfce4-notfiyd and add dbus to your daemon array and reboot
[09:12] <ikonia> freddy__: looks like it's hung as the connection has dropped
[09:13] <rosso> Last oneiric update seems to have broken the packages nginx-full and nginx-light: "The following packages have unmet dependencies:  nginx-full : Depends: nginx-common (= 1.2.0-1ppa1~oneiric) but 1.2.1-0ubuntu0ppa1~oneiric is to be installed
[09:13] <freddy__> djglobalbot: what is xfce4-notfiyd ?
[09:13] <auronandace> rosso: we don't support ppas here
[09:13] <djglobalbot> !give freddy__ xfce4
[09:13] <theadmin> rosso: You have PPAs in your system, which is not something we support. Third-party repos are unofficial and potentially dangerous.
[09:14] <theadmin> djglobalbot: The Ubottu "give" syntax is "!factoid | person"
[09:14] <theadmin> !xfce4 | freddy__
[09:14] <rosso> auronandace, theadmin ups - failed to recognize that. Cheers.
[09:14] <theadmin> Bah
[09:14] <theadmin> !xfce | freddy__
[09:14] <theadmin> There we have it.
[09:15] <theadmin> freddy__: xfce4-notifyd is a notification tool Xfce uses to inform users about various important events. Basically, tray popups.
[09:15] <freddy__> ubottu: yes ... but I have gnome and is satisfied with that ...
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> you are talking to a bot freddy__  ;)
[09:15] <freddy__> Dr_Willis: he he thanx ... not so smart :-)
[09:16] <theadmin> Is this the right place to ask a question about apt-fast? Guessing not, but...
[09:16] <jita> How can i capture a screenshot and publish it onto ubuntu one or imgur using gnome-screenshot ?
[09:16] <freddy__> ikonia: how do I find out why the connection drops ? I can go on internet with the thing all the time w/o problems ?
[09:17] <JoFo_> Could anybody help me to install ibus-xkb? (https://github.com/ibus/ibus-xkb)
[09:17] <theadmin> jita: Just hit Printscreen, save the file and upload it to the respective hosting.
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> !screenshot
[09:18] <jita> Can't it be automated ?
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> i dont have a printscr button on this keyboard.  :) android bluetooth
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> jita:  depends on the details.. thisis linux.. verythings possible
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: echo "options usbserial product=0x6141 vendor=0x1004" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/3g.conf > /dev/null
[09:18] <jita> Dr_Willis, I know shutter that can do, but i don't want to install new app for it
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: should do it
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: http://wiki.debian.org/Huawei/E220   should help, you may need the wvdial.conf define there too
[09:20] <tiox3G> If I lose connnection after the first series of commands, I'm just gonna give up until I get some sleep, lol
[09:21] <yenici> türkçe bilen birileri varmıdır
[09:22] <djglobalbot> !factoid ubuntu tiox3G
[09:24] <tiox3G> UHm ActionParsnip I don't have a wvdial.conf file in /etc.
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> tiox3G: yes, you may need to make it, you can make files in /etc you know
[09:26] <eutheria> is there a system load indicator for unity?
[09:26] <tiox3G> Well, I am going to see if this first thing worked. If it doesn't, then neh, I'll persue it lateert.
[09:26] <tiox3G> I'll nag you about nit to help me, ActionParsnip
[09:26] <tiox3G> And as you can see from my typing my lucidity is rather low,.
[09:27] <globalbot> !factoid wiki
[09:28] <globalbot> !factoid wiki Y_Ichiro
[09:28] <ikonia> globalbot: what are you doing ?
[09:28] <GNS3Talk> Gents, VNC is sluggish with Ubuntu 11.10 and 12.04! The refresh rate is horrible and it's nothing compared to Windows RDC. Is there an alternative to VNC that I could use on Ubuntu?
[09:28] <globalbot> GNS3Talk: is it on a ssh line?
[09:29] <GNS3Talk> globalbot: it's on my home network! no security envolved.
[09:29] <jetty> hello
[09:29] <hbro> GNS3Talk: TeamViewer, FreeNX, x11vnc?
[09:29] <theadmin> GNS3Talk: There's ssh, there's also TeamViewer (which is what I use, a great app, however it's closed-source (if that matters for you...))
[09:29] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: have you looked at the vnc settings and optimised your connections
[09:30] <globalbot> hmm thoughput shouldnt matter - allothough you 8should* not forward x unless on a tmux session
[09:30] <hbro> xrdp?
[09:30] <|ntegra|> teamviewer is good
[09:30] <globalbot> |ntegra|: its not.
[09:30] <|ntegra|> haha
[09:30] <hbro> GNS3Talk: http://www.mynitor.com/2010/02/07/15-remote-desktop-solutions-for-linux/
[09:30] <GNS3Talk> hbro: Isn't TeamViewer similar to LogMeIn? I tried x11vnc but it's no different to the built-in VNC server.
[09:30] <globalbot> tightvnc + ssh > teamviewer anyday
[09:30] <theadmin> Eh, there's no "good" or "bad" software (except IE, that's bad), matter of taste, that's all
[09:31] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: it's the built-in VNC server, there is not much setting I can do!
[09:31] <theadmin> GNS3Talk: Yeah, TeamViewer and LMI are somewhat similar, except TeamViewer is free for non-commercial use
[09:31] <hbro> what theadmin said
[09:31] <globalbot> so is tightvnc and ssh and its more secure.
[09:31] <hbro> also true
[09:31] <GNS3Talk> theadmin: But with such apps, your connection has to go through their website so latency will be an issue.
[09:31] <hbro> I'll shut up now, nothing much usefull to say :p
[09:31] <theadmin> GNS3Talk: It can work through LAN.
[09:32] <theadmin> GNS3Talk: (make sure to enable that on *both* sides, though)
[09:32] <GNS3Talk> theadmin: I will give it a go. Thanks!
[09:32] <globalbot> lol.
[09:33] <theadmin> GNS3Talk: On the other hand, if you just need terminal access, ssh is the best choice
[09:33] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: built in ?
[09:33] <madzik> hello is anyone here familiar with pjsip?
[09:34] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: the servers and clinets availavbe to ubuntu have many configuration options
[09:34] <eutheria> can i move an indicator to the far left on the top panel?
[09:34] <globalbot> you can.
[09:34] <eutheria> how? :)
[09:34] <globalbot> xrandr
[09:34] <GNS3Talk> theadmin: Yeah I've been using SSH, but sometimes GUI is easier to use.
[09:34] <ikonia> globalbot: stop it
[09:34] <theadmin> eutheria: Unity's panels aren't really configurable. If you're on an older Ubuntu version, though (with GNOME 2), sure -- just right-click it and choose "Move".
[09:34] <ikonia> globalbot: he does not need xrandr to change a desktop pannel
[09:35] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: Are you referring to the built-in VNC server or the x11vnc?
[09:35] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: what built in vnc server ?
[09:35] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: you install the vnc server
[09:35] <eutheria> theadmin, oh :) i was trying to make unity more like how things used to be just with the extra screen you get
[09:35] <theadmin> ikonia: Ubuntu comes (or used to come) with a built-in VNC server which could be enabled or disabled through "Remote Access" in the Preferences menu.
[09:35] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: There is an option in12.04 called Desktop sharing!
[09:35] <eutheria> i don't like that dashboard thingy overlay andf the side panel
[09:35] <ikonia> ahhh the desktop sharing thing, ok, that makes more sense
[09:35] <eutheria> i am happy with just the top bar :)
[09:35] <globalbot> oh. man. aptitufe in stall tightcnv
[09:36] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: I'm sure there will be a config option for that, in truth I've never really used it, or had a problem with it so don't know
[09:36] <Applesouce> Hey I have a question, is it possible to stream my Wifi to my Mobile Devices via Ubuntu?
[09:37] <Applesouce> Like when my Android teathers his mobile connection to my Laptop, just in the other way
[09:37] <ikonia> Applesouce: do you mean share the connection with your mobile device ?
[09:37] <Applesouce> Yes
[09:37] <ikonia> !ics | Applesouce
[09:37] <globalbot> bridge.
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> Applesouce:  streaming audio/video  to a android on the network is easy
[09:37] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: That's not what he wants, lol, he wants to share the internet connection
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> Applesouce:  teatheringis getting acces to the internet through the other device
[09:37] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: The configurations are minimum compared to x11vnc but both applications weren't really responsive even in a gigabit point to point connection!
[09:37] <globalbot> bridge.
[09:38] <theadmin> globalbot: Stop already.
[09:38] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: that is quite concerning
[09:38] <Applesouce> Yes Yes I know, I want to share the internet connection of my xubuntu Notebook
[09:38] <ikonia> Applesouce: check out the link ubottu sent you
[09:38] <globalbot> yes, i forget i hit the arrow up button my mistake, sometimes i thnk people miss it for some reason.
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> Applesouce:  what has internet? the pc or the phone?
[09:38] <Applesouce> yes I'm now, I just wanted to make clear that I don't want media streaming xD
[09:38] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: a good question
[09:39] <ikonia> I may have jumped the gun in my understanding
[09:39] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: I tried it on different hardware with all the apps up to date, but it was exactly the same!
[09:39] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: what client are you using ?
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> android phones cant do ad-hoc as far as i know.
[09:39] <GNS3Talk> I'm installing teamviewer now, so we will see how it goes.
[09:39] <Applesouce> Dr_Willis: My Notebook is plugged into the wall and I want to share the Connection with my iPad and Galaxy Nexus
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> Applesouce:  easy solution - get a cheap wifi router
[09:39] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: On my Mac OS X, I'm using ChickenVNC.
[09:39] <dreamer000> Dr_Willis: they can.
[09:40] <dreamer000> Dr_Willis: but as I saw only rooted...
[09:40] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: silly question but do you have the the mac remote desktop application client ?
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> dreamer000:  i never could.  but that may be because my phone is a year+ old
[09:40] <ikonia> GNS3Talk: or grab "tight vnc"
[09:40] <globalbot> brb.
[09:40] <GNS3Talk> ikonia: I will give it a go in a sec. BRB.
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[09:40] <fasta> Where is the /etc/inittab file on Ubuntu?
[09:40] <theadmin> !upstart | fasta
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> !sysv
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> dont think there is a /etc/inittab since we are using upstart
[09:41] <Applesouce> Dr_Willis: Damn I have a Wifi Router, at the moment I'm on Wifi with all my devices, and no it wasn't cheap. When I'm somewhere else I've got no Wifi Router so .... please just answer my questions and don't bring solutions like that if you don't know the situation
[09:41] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: There isn't indeed
[09:42] <fasta> theadmin: I searched for getty and inittab on that page, but it didn't return anything useful in the faq.
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> Applesouce:  as i mentioned not all android phones can do adhoc networking. so you would need to somehow set up as a router/ics with  the dhcp server  and so forth.
[09:42] <theadmin> fasta: Explore the Upstart configurations under /etc/init to see how that's handled. Runlevels are configured in the .conf files there.
[09:42] <theadmin> Err, /etc/init/
[09:43] <Applesouce> Dr_Willis: I've also said, that I want to stream to my iPad
[09:43] <theadmin> Applesouce: "stream" isn't valid for internet connection really, you're confusing people... "Tether" at least.
[09:43] <Dr_Willis> Applesouce:  youare usign thaat term stream again.. when you mean  share the internet./. you set the pc as a router. andwifi  devices connect to it. as if it was a router
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> teather is a special sort of connection.  not quiet the same.
[09:44] <fasta> theadmin: why didn't they switch to systemd?
[09:44] <Applesouce> Dr_Willis: I'm sorry that I'm not an american, I do the best I can here
[09:44] <fasta> theadmin: that's even faster, AFAIK.
[09:44] <theadmin> fasta: I dunno, yeah systemd is great, I think you can set it up on Ubuntu, but well
[09:44] <fasta> theadmin: it's not some evil conspiracy?
[09:45] <fasta> theadmin: (that was a joke.)
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> i saw some articals on why no sysremd yet..  i think in short. they dident want to switch away from upstart so quickly
[09:45] <globalbot> ok folks i would just like to extend my tanks for allowing me to sit here for the past 30 minutes - GoodNight.
[09:45] <globalbot> err s/tanks/tahnks
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> and systemd had some other requirements
[09:46] <theadmin> fasta: Isn't the whole Linux world nowadays an evil conspirancy? Unity, Gnome 3... All that drives people insane from what I see >.<
[09:46] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[09:46] <globalbot> s/tahnks/thanks
[09:46] <globalbot> care take care all
[09:46] <theadmin> globalbot: We get it :p
[09:46] <fasta> theadmin: yeah, that's why I use kde4.
[09:46] <theadmin> fasta: Heh, decent choice :)
[09:46] <fasta> theadmin: kde4.8 is awesome.
[09:46] <ashankar> unity is coming along nicely. kde is good right now
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> LXDE :)
[09:46] <fasta> theadmin: when you say something I hear it via my speakers.
[09:47] <curiousx> gnome shell :D
[09:47] <fasta> theadmin: now, I only need something to turn speech into text.
[09:47] <ashankar> i used kde until it hit kde 4.0 - that was terrible. then switched to ubuntu gnome, now switched again to kde.
[09:47] <ashankar> but ubuntu unity 12.04 is pretty good :)
[09:48] <Chuck_Norris> i used KDE 3.5 on BT 4 :D
[09:49] <dreamer000> I think about kicking network manager and use gnome-ppp and wicd instead :(
[09:49] <Chuck_Norris> this was mah BT 4 http://img61.xooimage.com/files/d/6/a/matrix-2673d92.png :D
[09:49] <hbro> awesome-wm ?
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Chuck_Norris: I had that back onMandrake :)
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> on Mandrake, bad spacebar
[09:50] <Chuck_Norris> ActionParsnip: cool :D i use to love Kwin :D
[09:50] <theadmin> Offtopic much?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> half
[09:55] <hohooho> ciao
[09:55] <freddy__> ubuntuone is not working on one of my machines - u1sdtool -c gives this:http://pastebin.com/gGEP8G89 but it never seems to start ... can anyone help with this - the other machine I have is working nicely ..
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> there is the  #ubuntuone channel freddy__  they should know more then in here.
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> or was it #ubuntu-one
[10:03] <Chillance> ok, so my win7 machine is connected to work through VPN. however, I cant access it from this machine using rdesktop. if I disconnect the other PC from the VPN, I can connect to it. What should I do?
[10:08] <Kartagis> Chillance: tell VPN to transfer YOUR DNS
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> Chillance: can you ping the server?
[10:12] <nimesh_accenture> what is the fourcc format of framebuffer?
[10:15] <raquel> Hola
[10:15] <curiousx> hola
[10:15] <curiousx> !es | raquel
[10:15] <raquel> ¿Cómo puedo instalar Ares en Guadalinex?
[10:16] <Chuck_Norris> raquel: con wine, primero tenes que instala wine despues hacele doble click al .exe del ares y se instalara: http://i.imgur.com/bIHdh.png
[10:16] <Dr_Willis> that dosent nake sncse  about the framebuffer
[10:18] <RIMAL> +
[10:18] <RIMAL> hi
[10:20] <RIMAL> ~!@#$%^&*(
[10:21] <daze> what about defragmentation in Ubuntu?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> daze: no need for journalized file systems
[10:22] <Chuck_Norris> daze: it's dosn't needed
[10:22] <daze> oh, ok. thanks :]
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> daze: or do you mean defrag FAT32 etc?
[10:22] <daze> will read about journaling
[10:22] <daze> nope, ext4
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> then it's not needed ever :)
[10:22] <daze> good :]
[10:22] <llutz> daze: in e2fsprogs is /usr/sbin/e4defrag
[10:23] <Naemdar> Hours to unpack the 12.04 upgrade?
[10:23] <Naemdar> This is the strangest upgrade process I have ever seen.
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Naemdar: how do you mean 'unpack'?
[10:23] <Chuck_Norris> Naemdar: ye depend on the internet conection as well, that's the reason why i just do a clean install
[10:23] <Naemdar> its on the installing the update phase
[10:24] <Naemdar> Granted a bulldozer processor isn't the most efficient thing on the planet but its not that slow
[10:25] <Chuck_Norris> Naemdar: are you upgrading at 12.04?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Naemdar: depends on PC spec and the drive the OS is installed to
[10:25] <Naemdar> yea
[10:25] <Naemdar> its a 4 core 4.2 gig am3+ with 16 gigs of ram
[10:25] <largerthanlife> hi
[10:26] <reisio> hi
[10:26] <largerthanlife> I need to run a commands at startup and shutdown, how should I do this?
[10:26] <reisio> largerthanlife: why do you need to
[10:26] <largerthanlife> command*
[10:26] <Naemdar> it is 2 gigs or so worth of binaries so I guess it could take a while lol
[10:26] <DarkSim> If someone wants to spend a good amount of time with me, I'm cheap for the hour
[10:26] <DarkSim> nah kidding, I have problems with WINE, Steam and Dota 2. Would appreciate some help
[10:27] <largerthanlife> reisio: they need to some information out on the INternet
[10:27] <reisio> DarkSim: 'Wine'
[10:27] <largerthanlife> send*
[10:27] <DarkSim> Something wrong?
[10:27] <Chuck_Norris> DarkSim: did you try POL?
[10:28] <DarkSim> Nope
[10:28] <DarkSim> afaik it doesn't support Dota 2 either
[10:28] <Chuck_Norris> you should
[10:28] <Anomie21> Is it possible to run redsnow on ubuntu
[10:28] <Chillance> ActionParsnip, I have it here at home in the LAN, so yes
[10:29] <Chuck_Norris> idk about dota but... POL config and install all dependences needed for a particular app or games, otherwise you have to know the dependences and config
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> Anomie21  what's redsnow?
[10:29] <DarkSim> I found a guide on WineHQ
[10:29] <Naemdar> Does the updater dl the whole os or just the files it needs to change?
[10:29] <DarkSim> but I was unable to follow it fully
[10:29] <Anomie21> DarkSim: A tool used for jailbreaking iPhones
[10:30] <DarkSim> BlackRain?
[10:30] <largerthanlife> ActionParsnip: is away i guess
[10:30] <largerthanlife> :(
[10:30] <Anomie21> DarkSim: Isnt that a scam?
[10:31] <DarkSim> I dunno, I don't support Apple
[10:31] <DarkSim> That's the only jailbreak thing I know of though
[10:31] <Anomie21> o.0
[10:31] <shape> Hello, I have windows 7 installed alongside ubuntu and yesterday it booted from grub perfectly. And today, after some updates, I select it at boot and it won't load. It returns back to grub. I tried updating and reinstalling grub from ubuntu and even tried the windows startup recovery disk which detected no problems. I am out of ideas :(
[10:32] <Naemdar> I still have an ipod, but my mac book pro I have had for 5 years died.  sad but don't really need to replace it
[10:32] <roshambles> Hi, I asked my question in the #xubuntu channel but have no answer. Has anyone got compiz to work in it? I would really like my abillity to zoom in. No matter what key combo I use it won't work.
[10:32] <Naemdar> I heard it works but havn't tried to myself.
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> roshambles  use ccsm to configure compiz
[10:33] <Chuck_Norris> Jailbreak with "Absinthe" http://greenpois0n.com/
[10:33] <Naemdar> I may put compiz on 12.04 when the upgrade finishes.
[10:33] <Naemdar> I plan on upgrading security a ton as well.  :)
[10:33] <Chuck_Norris> linux pakage =P https://sites.google.com/site/greenpois0nabsinthe/absinthe-linux-2.0.4.tar.bz2
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: if you log in to XFCE then press ALT+F2 and run:  compzi --replace    what happens?
[10:34] <roshambles> monkeydust: yes, I have used the ccsm to configure compiz, that's why I'm saying no matter what key combo I program the zoom in/out function, it won't do it.
[10:34] <Naemdar> It will be interesting to see how well ubuntu plays with 256 bit hd encryption, secure browser extensions, and such.
[10:34] <largerthanlife>  ActionParsnip  I need to run a command at startup and shutdown, how should I do this?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: is the plugin enabled?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> largerthanlife: does the command need root access?
[10:35] <roshambles> it stopped at "zoom out key"
[10:35] <largerthanlife> wget command ActionParsnip
[10:35] <roshambles> oh, and alt+tab has stopped working
[10:35] <largerthanlife> no it doesn;t
[10:35] <Naemdar> is there a way to connect to the tor network with out using the live disk os?
[10:36] <Chuck_Norris> !info tor
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> !tor| Naemdar
[10:36] <largerthanlife> who wants tor?
[10:36] <Chuck_Norris> Naemdar: install tor and vidalia
[10:36] <Naemdar> thank you much
[10:36] <Chuck_Norris> !info vidalia
[10:37] <mi3> !lm-sensors
[10:37] <roshambles> actionparsnip : do you want me to copy and paste what it says? I can't give you a tes or no answer
[10:37] <largerthanlife> dont use it to connect to irc, they ll disconnect you immidiately
[10:37] <mi3> !nmap
[10:37] <mi3> ??
[10:37] <shape> Hello, I have windows 7 installed alongside ubuntu and yesterday it booted from grub perfectly. And today, after some updates, I select it at boot and it won't load. It returns back to grub. I tried updating and reinstalling grub from ubuntu and even tried the windows startup recovery disk which detected no problems.
[10:37] <largerthanlife> stop flooding please
[10:37] <Naemdar> Tor may be a bit overkill but I will at least run disk encryption and secure browsing extension for firefox
[10:38] <mi3> largerthanlife, for search engines, use ddg :D
[10:38] <mi3> its fast and awesome, largerthanlife :D
[10:38] <Eeeks> Does any one have recommedation on English to Hindi Dictionary translator?
[10:38] <largerthanlife> mi3: ddg?
[10:38] <mi3> largerthanlife, duckduckgo.com
[10:38] <largerthanlife> oh
[10:39] <__gilles> hi
[10:39] <mi3> largerthanlife, its privacy enhanced, and its fast, and secure
[10:39] <largerthanlife> lol yea i use it sometimes
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> largerthanlife: you can add it in the startup apps, it will run as soon as you log in
[10:39] <Naemdar> heard good things about ddg as it runs in https
[10:39] <mi3> largerthanlife, you even get an ssl/https version, what more do you want ?
[10:39] <mi3> HI ActionParsnip !!
[10:39] <mi3> !cookie | ActionParsnip
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> mi3: hi....
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> :)
[10:39] <mi3> :D
[10:39] <mi3> ActionParsnip, long time, no see :D
[10:40] <roshambles> actionparsnip: Compiz is running, it says integration is true, but now alt+tab doesn't work, how do I fix that? I really depend on that shortcut
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> mi3: yeah, just got my new eyes put in. Full vision now :)
[10:40] <mi3> ActionParsnip, what ?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: do other plugins work ok?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> mi3: its a joke
[10:40] <Naemdar> I still have the visor
[10:40] <Naemdar> lol
[10:40] <mi3> hahahahaha ok ActionParsnip LOL
[10:40] <roshambles> actionparsnip: Other plugins? I'm not sure what you mean
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: like wobbly windows etc
[10:41] <largerthanlife> mi3: are you work with ddg?
[10:41] <mi3> largerthanlife, what ?
[10:41] <largerthanlife> do you work with ddg*
[10:41] <largerthanlife> sorry
[10:41] <largerthanlife> typo
[10:42] <mi3> largerthanlife, no, I dont
[10:42] <largerthanlife> things you wrote back there , gave me this impression
[10:42] <largerthanlife> lol ok mi3
[10:42] <roshambles> actionparsnip: I just brought up the ccsm and the corner of it is obscured by the top bar and I can't move it. What does compiz --replace do?
[10:42] <mi3> largerthanlife, what impression ?
[10:42] <largerthanlife> that you work with duckduckgo
[10:43] <mi3> largerthanlife, no, I dont work for it, I just suggested you !
[10:43] <largerthanlife> mi3 thanks :)
[10:43] <mi3> largerthanlife, you are welcome ! :D
[10:43] <mi3> largerthanlife, also try https://startpage.com
[10:44] <mi3> largerthanlife, or https://hidemyass.com
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: replaces xfwin4 with compiz.
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: if you hold ALT you can drag a window from anywhere on the application window
[10:45] <roshambles> actionparsnip: Yes! The zoom is working with the scrollwheel and super button. But now my windows don't have the top bar, I can't move any windows nor can I alt+tab
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: do you use an nvidia GPU?
[10:45] <Eeeks> Is anyone have any recommedation on language translators? I badly need an Hindi to English translators!
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: again, you can hold ALT and drag from any part of the window
[10:46] <largerthanlife> thanks mi3 for the latter one
[10:46] <largerthanlife> that was cool
[10:46] <mi3> largerthanlife, ok
[10:46] <roshambles> actionparsnip: I click alt and drag, it doesn't want to, and double clicking doesn't resize it either
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: tried the other alt key?
[10:47] <dreamer000> roshambles: you need a theme manager part of compiz or something like emerald
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: do you have the move plugin enabled in ccsm?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: do you use an nvidia video chip..
[10:47] <fasta> initctl reload gives me initctl: missing job name.
[10:48] <fasta> All I want is to run getty from tty8 for which I configured a tty8.conf file.
[10:48] <fasta> Why can't it give a decent error message?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> fasta: better than most windows errors :)
[10:49] <fasta> ActionParsnip: I think it's just the faq which was wrong.
[10:49] <roshambles> actionparsnip: Just tried some other smaller im windows and nothing happens. I'll check. Yes, nvidia ion
[10:49] <fasta> ActionParsnip: it's initctl reload-configuration.
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> !tab| roshambles
[10:50] <Chuck_Norris> roshambles: what is your driver version? 295.40?
[10:51] <roshambles> tab is not working Monkeydust, but thanks, is that a limitation of xchat? Chucknorris: My driver version is whatever the latest stable driver is for nvidia on xubuntu. Actionparsnip: I can't find the move command, what catergory is it under?
[10:53] <Chuck_Norris> roshambles: open the nvidia control panel and see what is the version please,'coz if it's 295.40 is bugy
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: you may need an xorg.conf and add the options: http://pastie.org/4043587
[10:53] <dreamer000> !compiz-gtk
[10:53] <roshambles> 295.49
[10:53] <tuxgeek> !seen
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: so run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    add that under the: Driver "nvidia" line
[10:54] <fasta> ActionParsnip: what's wrong with this configuration for starting Debian in a chroot? http://paste.kde.org/494558/
[10:55] <roshambles> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[10:55] <roshambles> VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[10:55] <roshambles>                   Device section "Default Device" must have a Driver line.
[10:55] <roshambles> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[10:55] <roshambles> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[10:55] <FloodBot1> roshambles: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:56] <roshambles> did floodbot prevent you from seeing that? Said data was incomplete in file xorg.conf
[10:57] <quixotedon> roshambles: don't know why but recently you can't paste several lines together, and when you press return key, it just feels like you are sending several times, that's what floodbot is doing, checking several messages altogether to assume that you're flooding
[10:57] <Naemdar> So https everywhere, ddg ssl default search, and tor browser bundle, its amazing how easy and fast it is to secure a browsing experience.
[10:58] <amanthakur> Hi guys, i have made a daemon program to be run at system startup. I have added its script tp /etc/init.d and its running fine with the service command but it not coming up at system startup. Can anyone suggest me a way to achieve that?
[10:58] <quixotedon> *you = we = all users
[10:59] <Naemdar> the more I play with and learn about linux the more I love it.
[10:59] <morsnowski> Naemdar, i can relate to that :)
[10:59] <roshambles> I try to right click on the text to copy and paste it but I don't even have a copy command anymore. My desktop is more broken than before. I think I might just reinstall ubuntu at this rate and work around it's new interface that I don't like, compiz just worked then.
[10:59] <Naemdar> Just have to locate a good hd encryptor tool
[11:00] <roshambles> although the zoom does work now I've lost things like minimise/maximise/close, can't move windows and can't alt+tab and I do not see those options in the CCSM
[11:00] <fasta> With what rights does the stuff from upstart run? root?
[11:00] <Naemdar> the fact that linux scares people that only know windows is a great way to keep strangers off my computer :)
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Naemdar: my GF thinks its fine, although its setup well :)
[11:01] <amanthakur> ActionParsnip, any ideas about my problem :) ?
[11:02] <roshambles> If I uninstall compiz, will I get basic functionality back, like being able to move and resize windows, plus alt+tab?
[11:02] <ikonia> roshambles: if compiz is causing the problem, sure
[11:03] <amanthakur> Hi guys, i have made a daemon program to be run at system startup. I have added its script tp /etc/init.d and its running fine with the service command but it not coming up at system startup. Can anyone suggest me a way to achieve that?
[11:03] <ikonia> amanthakur: have you intergrated it into upstart
[11:03] <ikonia> amanthakur: eg: put a "depends" line in or something to trigger it
[11:04] <amanthakur> ikonia, no i have not done anything like that yet
[11:04] <ikonia> amanthakur: I'd suggest that would be the most likley issue
[11:04] <amanthakur> ikonia, please put some more light over that
[11:04] <ikonia> amanthakur: instead of run levels upstart uses triggers
[11:04] <amanthakur> !upstart
[11:05] <Naemdar> Where do I extract this tor browser pack to?
[11:08] <thebrasse> hi! anyone know why i see only one sink with pacmd but i can see three audio cards, one being my usb headphones? the sink i'm seeing is the built-in speakers in my laptop.
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: looks fnie, the file is made
[11:08] <thebrasse> i have changes my window manager, and since then i'm having all kinds of troubles getting stuff to work properly...
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> fasta: not something I've used, sorry
[11:08] <amanthakur> ikonia, i was making the daemon generic for all linux distros, so will it work on all platforms? if i use upstart?
[11:09] <ikonia> amanthakur: no, not all distros use upstart
[11:09] <ikonia> amanthakur: remember, the init system is not the daemon
[11:09] <amanthakur> ikonia, yeah
[11:09] <ikonia> the daemon will work on all distros (if you've built it correctly) but the init script will need to be setup for different distros
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Naemdar: could put it in /opt then symlink the binary to /usr/bin
[11:09] <fasta> How can I get NFS mounts to time out a lot sooner when booting?
[11:10] <amanthakur> ikonia, so is there an ideal way to achieve that?
[11:10] <fasta> If it's not mounted with 3 seconds, it's just offline.
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Naemdar: I ran that once, took forever to load
[11:10] <fasta> No need for it to try for 60 seconds or longer.
[11:10] <ikonia> amanthakur: yes, write the daemon, package it for different distros and include the correct init script in the distro package
[11:10] <fasta> Also, it appears that mounts are not done in parallel. Why not?
[11:10] <amanthakur> ikonia, and is there any other way to do that rather than using the upstart
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> fasta: could add the option 'noboot' in fstab then add:  sudo mount -a &    in /etc/rc.local
[11:10] <ikonia> amanthakur: upstart is the correct tool for ubuntu,
[11:10] <amanthakur> ikonia, i didn't wanted to use the upstart
[11:11] <amanthakur> ikonia, ok i will use it then thanks a lot :)
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> fasta: soem mounts may need the previous ones to be mounted first
[11:11] <MonkeyDu1t> darn cinnamon
[11:11] <roshambles> actionparsnip: I'm uninstalling compiz. I'll be reinstalling ubuntu on this system later on I just don't feel like going through the whole backup rigamarole right now
[11:11] <kramer3d> hello
[11:11] <fasta> ActionParsnip: I will try that. Sound like a plan.
[11:11] <kramer3d> does anyone know how to see a history of pdfs opened in chrome?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: you have the xorg.conf file, just add the 2 lines and you are done...
[11:12] <amanthakur> ikonia, upstart-udev-bridge is it the command?
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> fasta: bit of a hack, but should work
[11:12] <ikonia> amanthakur: errr no, it's not 1 command
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> kramer3d: press CTRL+H and search for PDF in the search box, may work
[11:12] <kramer3d> nope
[11:12] <fasta> ActionParsnip: it does one thing not exactly like I want still. If I do mount -a, it should also not take a long time.
[11:12] <kramer3d> guess chrome doenst save it :/
[11:12] <amanthakur> oh ok
[11:12] <kramer3d> hmm
[11:12] <fasta> ActionParsnip: but I suppose I could change the order :)
[11:13] <fasta> ActionParsnip: still, I think these things should be done in parallel.
[11:13] <cache_za> i think pdfs are downloads
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> kramer3d: maybe there is an extension...
[11:14] <cache_za> so ctrl+j search pdf
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> fasta: it should be an option ;)
[11:15] <roshambles> actionparsnip: I used the sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf but gedit hasn't come up
[11:16] <vadimkolchev> hi all. I'd like to know the following - is it normal, that apt-get update constantly downloads 13 megabytes of data, even if I run it 3 times in a row?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> roshambles: oh yeah its xfce:  gksudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:17] <kramer3d> ActionParsnip, nvm got it :D
[11:17] <Ormie> Is it ok if I make my own ubuntu based distro and put unity in?
[11:17] <kramer3d> they are saved as webpages
[11:17] <kramer3d> or pages
[11:18] <kramer3d> in history
[11:18] <fasta> Ormie: except for trade marks, sure.
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  why not, but why bother, there already about 150+ ubuntu forks (more or less)
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> are*
[11:18] <fasta> Ormie: there are all kinds of conditions and for personal use you can do anything with it.
[11:19] <fasta> Ormie: e.g. if you want to create a holy burning of Ubuntu, you can do that.
[11:19] <Ormie> ?
[11:19] <fasta> Ormie: never mind.
[11:19] <Ormie> yeah
[11:19] <bitabit> hello I have a local network and if the computer with shared folders is connected afterwards those shared folders dont appear. it needs to be the first turned on computer...is there a way to fix this? ubuntu 11.04 both thankyou in advance
[11:23] <Naemdar> yea yea update done.
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> bitabit: if you add them as bookmarks in nautilus, does it help
[11:23] <Naemdar> and collusion scares me
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> bitabit: is the sharing service running ok
[11:23] <Naemdar> it will make you afraid to search the net seeing how many sites share info lol
[11:24] <bitabit> add them as bookmarks? they are not stayed!
[11:24] <bitabit> I am a noob buddie
[11:24] <bitabit> so think easy
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> bitabit  that was the easy way
[11:25] <bitabit> I go to places network and nothing there
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> bitabit: when you acces the share, click 'bookamrks' and add the bookmark
[11:25] <bitabit> only if the other computer is switched on first...shared folders appear
[11:26] <bitabit> to go to network folder?
[11:26] <bitabit> I did nothing appears
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> bitabit  yes, that is correct, using bookmarks is the fastest and easiest to load remote folders, when the local pc is switched on second
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> way*
[11:27] <Ormie> My battery life is really short! Thanks to that ol' crappy windows 7. Now I use ubuntu. I seem to have problem installing granola and granola-gui from apt-get, what shall I do?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> bitabit: get to the folder so you can see the data within one of the shares then add it as a bookmark
[11:27] <bitabit> sooooo...switching it on first?
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> bitabit  or using bookmarks
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> that's how i do it, too
[11:28] <ikonia> Ormie: what's the issue
[11:28] <bitabit> bookmark to go to the shared folder? I CANT SEE IT
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> bitabit  access to remote folder, then bookmark it
[11:29] <Ormie> ikonia, it seems that granola and granola-gui was removed from repo, I want it back.
[11:29] <ikonia> Ormie: then you need to log a bug/wishlist
[11:30] <Ormie> ikonia, i just want to add the app to repo
[11:30] <Ormie> manually
[11:30] <ikonia> Ormie: you can't
[11:30] <ikonia> Ormie: you don't control the repo
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  canonical adds apps to the repos
[11:31] <Ormie> :(
[11:31] <Ormie> :(
[11:31] <Ormie> If canonical can, why can't we?
[11:31] <ikonia> Ormie: it's their repos
[11:31] <Ormie> on their server?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> !info granola
[11:31] <bitabit> I dont get it...If I bookmark a shared folder it only add a bookmark in the computer the shared folder is...how am I supposed to open it from another computer
[11:31] <bitabit> ?
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  because if you can, an evil-doer can, too
[11:32] <Ormie> is the repo store in cannonical's server?
[11:32] <Ormie> stored*
[11:32] <Drajwer> how do I fix my missing eth0 in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[11:32] <Ormie> sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[11:33] <bitabit> hey missing eth in 12.04 here too!!
[11:33] <DarkSim> Any easy way to restore Ubuntu to how it was when I first installed it?
[11:33] <bitabit> I think it is a hot bug
[11:33] <DarkSim> Like a restore point or something?
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> DarkSim try janitor or bleachbit
[11:33] <ufk> hi
[11:34] <ufk> how do i configure in /etc/fstab to mount with specific uid ? when i add uid=1000 it says unrecognized mount option or missing value
[11:34] <Drajwer> bitabit: it looks like kernel module is missing or smth
[11:34] <DarkSim> None of them seems to support precise
[11:34] <aykoola> hi guys
[11:34] <aykoola> !
[11:35] <aykoola> i have a 12.04 installation question
[11:35] <aykoola> can anyone help me?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: you can use your backups I guess
[11:35] <CookieM_> aykoola shoot
[11:35] <LordOfTime> aykoola:  asking the question is better
[11:35] <LordOfTime> !ask | aykoola
[11:35] <DJones> aykoola: Ask your question, until you do that, people won't know i they can help
[11:35] <kaphe> hello, i am using pan 0.133 and it keeps saying "connecting"! does it mean to my provider or the queud tasks?
[11:36] <DarkSim> Where do I find those?
[11:36] <JackShephard> kde goes great with the effects of kwin, gnome without a composite manager is scarce. If I install compiz, then I have no problems with kwin. interferes with the kde desktop effects
[11:36] <Chuck_Norris> Ormie: http://grano.la/support/linux_enterprise.php
[11:36] <Ormie> i ask to ask a question to catch people's attention :D
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> DarkSim: you make your own backups
[11:36] <DarkSim> Then I have none
[11:37] <DarkSim> Was hoping to skip the reinstallation process
[11:37] <Drajwer> how do I fix my missing eth0 in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> DarkSim  consider a backup a restore point
[11:37] <Drajwer> lshw -C network does not list ethernet device other than wlan0 (ath9k_htc) and tun (vpn conn)
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Drajwer: if you run:  dmesg | grep eth0    is there any output?
[11:37] <Drajwer> nope ActionParsnip
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Drajwer: does the system have a make and model?
[11:38] <Chuck_Norris> Ormie: http://grano.la/software/download_granola.php
[11:38] <aykoola> OH.Sorry. Well, my installer crashed numerous times, it was that ubiquity error that a large topic was on the forums. I've tried everything, upgrading, alternate install media (the text based one) and a normal one on DVD as well as USB. every single one crashed on me. Now someone suggested to remove the slideshow from the live media, but i'm wondering, is this action any different from using the text based installer? And, will the im
[11:38] <Ormie> ok
[11:38] <aykoola> not only me experiencing the problem?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> aykoola: have you tested your RAM>
[11:38] <JackShephard> kde goes great with the effects of kwin, gnome without a composite manager is scarce. If I install compiz, then I have no problems with kwin. interferes with the kde desktop effects
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> JackShephard: what is the question?
[11:39] <Drajwer> asus p55A
[11:39] <Drajwer> mobo
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Drajwer: tried restting BIOS to failsafe default?
[11:39] <Drajwer> now I see why I switched to Mac
[11:39] <Drajwer> :p
[11:40] <Drajwer> no, i think kernel module is missing or something?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Drajwer: worth a try, does it work in an older kernel?
[11:40] <Drajwer> it used to work on 10.04
[11:40] <Drajwer> i cant remember
[11:40] <aykoola> how exactly do i do that? :) test the ram that is...Otherwise Debian install and Fedora and Ubu 11.10 work fine...
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> !memtest | aykoola
[11:41] <JackShephard> actionparsnip
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> aykoola: its part of the install media
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Drajwer: if you have the lucid liveCD, boot to that and see what module it uses.
[11:41] <Drajwer> i just transfer some gigabytes via wlan which is working
[11:42] <DarkSim> Being Windows in a Linux world is not easy
[11:42] <JackShephard> actionparsnip i want install compiz on natty, but if i start kde session is incompatible wiht kwin? i want use compiz in gnome, but, i use both DE
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> JackShephard: compiz will replace kwin
[11:43] <JackShephard> actionpasnip but compiz is a windowmanager
[11:43] <bitabit> Drajwer: I tried  Changing [ifupdown] managed=false to true in /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf resolved the issue. it only worked with 11.10 but after upgrading to 12.04 the problem is on again
[11:43] <GNS3Talk> Everyone, how do I change the resolution of a headless 12.04 PC? I'm accessing my machine remotely and there is no monitor connected to it!
[11:43] <aykoola> Oh, ActionParsnip, i forgot to mention that i otherwise checked the md5cheksum according to instructions, and checked the install media in the installer, and it was all OK...
[11:43] <Drajwer> I have no /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> JackShephard: yes, so is kwin
[11:44] <CainHK>    好多淫
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[11:44] <JackShephard> actionparsnip, can i use both? kwin in kde, e compiz in gnome?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> aykoola: did you try updating ubiquity in the liveCD, then install
[11:44] <bitabit> Drawjer the file has a different name in 12.04 I cant find the thread I read it on....sorry
[11:44] <aykoola> no. what's the command for that?
[11:45] <aykoola> so i can write it down
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> JackShephard: sure :)
[11:45] <deepspeed> My pc isn't recognizing my blackberry's sd card, but windows picks it up.  How do I fix this?
[11:45] <deepspeed> I'm running lucid
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> aykoola: boot to liveCD and then run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ubiquity
[11:45] <JackShephard> actionparsnip, but you write about compiz will replace kwin..
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> JackShephard: I thought you wanted compiz in both
[11:46] <aykoola> thanks
[11:46] <JackShephard> actionparsnip, i don't  want delete kwin
[11:46] <aykoola> i'll try it and post the results
[11:46] <Kowalczyk> hi... I get this error when I boot from the ubuntu cd: error prefix not set. and last install I juyst got a butch of 9999999 over the screen when it tried to boot ubuntu... redownloaded the iso and burned again. I still get the prefix not set. but will see if it can boot it afterwards
[11:46] <Kowalczyk> ubuntu 12.04 amd 64
[11:46] <GNS3Talk> Everyone, how do I change the resolution of a headless 12.04 PC? I'm accessing my machine remotely and there is no monitor connected to it!
[11:46] <Klompz> just a quick question 4 now: does this channel also have more quite times, or less busy? i might check in by that time
[11:47] <stevegjacobs> #join openstack
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Kowalczyk: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[11:47] <JackShephard> actionparsnip, i have both sessions. kde and gnome, but i want use compiz in gnome e kwin in kde
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Klompz: it varies wildly
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> Klompz:  totally depends on the day of the week and time of day
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> JackShephard: that's fine and should happen
[11:47] <Klompz> im flexible
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> Klompz:  on release day ive seen 3000+ in here befor
[11:47] <Kowalczyk> no I didnt... will try that
[11:47] <phanindraramesh> hai all, I want to print the 7the field and then the 1st field in all the lines from a file. How can I do it using cut command?
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> Klompz  depends of the timezone you're in, too
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> Klompz:  its 8am in the usa. so id say this is getting to be the bussier time for the next 12 hrs or so
[11:48] <Klompz> maybe i should check in when it late in the night in the usa
[11:48]  * Klompz dutch
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> Its decently quiet in here right now. :)
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> Klompz  -6h in new york, -9h in LA
[11:49] <Ormie> E: Unable to locate package granola-connect :(
[11:50] <ikonia> Ormie: you know why
[11:50] <Ormie> Why?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> !find granola
[11:50] <ikonia> Ormie: it's not in the repo as you told us
[11:50] <Ormie> ikonia, I followed the instructions from the official website.
[11:50] <Ormie> still not work  :(
[11:50] <Klompz> ok, i go for it even though busy channels make me a bit nervous to be honest: i burned 12.04 to disc and loaded it, but i wont get passed the ubuntu logo screen, on the other, this, laptop it goes to the next screen where u can choose run from cd or install
[11:51] <ikonia> Ormie: what have you done
[11:51] <Klompz> usb is not an option, i have none
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Klompz: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[11:51] <Kowalczyk> ActionParsnip: I ran md5 sum on it now
[11:51] <Klompz> nope
[11:51] <Kowalczyk> MD5 (ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso) = 128f0c16f4734c420b0185a492d92e52
[11:51] <Kowalczyk> is what I got
[11:51]  * Klompz googles md5 test
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> !hashes | Kowalczyk
[11:52] <phanindraramesh> hai all, I want to print the 7the field and then the 1st field in all the lines from a file. How can I do it using cut command?
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> Klompz  have you asked in #ubuntu-nl ?
[11:52] <Kowalczyk> ActionParsnip: that looked the same
[11:52] <Kowalczyk> will see now..
[11:52] <Ormie> ikonia, http://grano.la/support/linux_enterprise.php?download&os=linux
[11:53] <Ormie> !find sl
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Klompz: what video chip do you use?
[11:53] <Ormie> !find virtualbox
[11:53] <ikonia> Ormie: please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  use /msg ubottu to perform finds
[11:53] <Kowalczyk> ActionParsnip: hmm didnt do anything.. I just get a page with L 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 all over
[11:54] <Klompz> not always enough peeps around, MonkeyDust , and no idea ActionParsnip , im only a simple n00b ;)
[11:54] <deepspeed> Guys, how do I get lucid to show my phone's sd card?  usb mass storage is enabled, and winblows picks it up fine.
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  you are using the LILO boot loader?
[11:54]  * Klompz installs md5sum
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Kowalczyk: is the RAM healthy?
[11:54] <Kowalczyk> Dr_Willis: I had that on slackware. but I formated the partition. so shouldnt be any problem
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  formating a filesystem does not erase the MBR boot loader.
[11:54] <deepspeed> I can't see it in thunar or the stock file manager, and it's not in /media, either.
[11:55] <Kowalczyk> ok.. I see... hmm... I should delete the partition? and create it again=?
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  it definatly looks like LILO is booting. You can 'dd' the mbr and zero it out then repariton if you want to.
[11:55] <phanindraramesh> hai all, I want to print the 7the field and then the 1st field in all the lines from a file. How can I do it using cut command?
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> there may be vbetter/safer ways to erase lilo from the mbr.
[11:55] <deepspeed> the MBR isn't on the partition, iirc.
[11:55] <Kowalczyk> I know.. so not sure why it crashes with it. hmm
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> the MBR is whats booting and showing that L99 99 99 99 error mesage
[11:55] <deepspeed> it's at the start of the hdd, I thought.
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> phanindraramesh: you can use awk, do you want them outputing side by side?
[11:56] <akls> I would like to share one connection between three computers, so all these pcs are connected to the switch and internet works, but whenever there are three connected pcs one of them keeps disconnecting from time to time(1 time per 3 seconds). what's the problem? then network is kinda busy
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> phanindraramesh: or one after the other
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> I definatly seem to recall old lilo error codes. and L  99 99 99  ment it couldent find somthing.
[11:56] <Kowalczyk> hmm..
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  is the hard drive empty?
[11:56] <phanindraramesh> ActionParsnip, I want the output side by side
[11:56] <Kowalczyk> Dr_Willis: no.
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> phanindraramesh: gimme a sec then :)
[11:57] <Kowalczyk> I have one swap, and one / and one /home
[11:57] <Kowalczyk> so I just formatted the /
[11:57] <phanindraramesh> ActionParsnip, ok. Thank you:=)
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  you aer going to boot this hard drive? or is some other drive booting?
[11:57] <Ormie> ikonia, this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028458/ and this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028460/
[11:57] <Klompz> screw, peeps at the door, i'll come back later, i hope
[11:57] <deepspeed> Can anyone help me access my micro sd with lucid?
[11:57] <Kowalczyk> im gonan boot this harddrive. its just one drive in it. I got ubuntu installed.
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  well for some reason GRUB did not install like it should to the MBR and erase lilo.
[11:58] <Kowalczyk> ok. hmm
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  id follow the 'fix grub' guides and reinstall grub.
[11:58] <ikonia> Ormie: what's in misuerware.list ?
[11:58] <Kowalczyk> ok. will try. have never done it before though
[11:58] <Kowalczyk> but using the live cd I assume
[11:58] <Kowalczyk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows ?
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> my link is like the first link ont he one you gave. :)
[11:59] <Ormie> ikonia, deb https://download.miserware.com/linux/deb precise main
[11:59] <Kowalczyk> will do it through the live cd then. at least try
[11:59] <Kowalczyk> thanks
[12:00] <ikonia> Ormie: sudo apt-get update
[12:01] <Kowalczyk> Dr_Willis: thank you.. booting from live cd now. will see if it works
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> phanindraramesh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028466
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> phanindraramesh: not graceful but should work
[12:02]  * Ormie is doing what ikonia says
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> phanindraramesh: you could use it as a script, or just change $1 for the file to mess with
[12:04] <Ormie> ikonia, it's working! thanks alot.
[12:04] <Ormie> :D
[12:04] <Ormie> !yay
[12:05] <siva4080> How to create the Adhoc Network in Ubuntu-12.04 ?
[12:05] <siva4080> I did not find any option for that on Ubuntu-12.04..
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: they updated the Maverick folder on 19th Mar 2012...very strange
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  if you didn't know apt-get update, my advice is to not try and create a new distro
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> siva4080: network manager can do it
[12:06] <morsnowski> siva4080, there is actually an option called "Create new wireless network"
[12:06] <Kowalczyk> Dr_Willis: configuring grub-pc. it ask me if I want to remove the grub 2 files. hmm
[12:06] <Kowalczyk> should prolly say no to that?
[12:07] <Kowalczyk> aha. nwm
[12:07] <siva4080> morsnowski: Oh..  where ?
[12:07] <morsnowski> just click on the network manager upper right hand corner next to the speaker icon
[12:08] <morsnowski> well that is under gnome
[12:08] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, I know about it, But I used it and it looked useless, so I forgot about it.
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> siva4080:
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> grub-pc is grub2....
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> siva4080: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> siva4080: simple websearches find guides online, dead handy
[12:08] <siva4080> oh..
[12:08]  * ActionParsnip shrugs
[12:08] <siva4080> ok..
[12:08] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: who/what/where, wasn't watching sorry
[12:09] <phanindraramesh> ActionParsnip, that worked:). Thank you
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: on the PPA
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> ikonia:
[12:10] <Ca11um> Hey guys, I'm having troubles installing the package libreadline5-dev for 12.04 - full explanation: http://forum.mtasa.com/viewtopic.php?f=106&t=44123
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: https://download.miserware.com/linux/deb/dists/
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> phanindraramesh: its not too graceful but you get the idea
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> phanindraramesh: did you use the $1 as I gave it?
[12:10] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: I see what you're saying
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: strange, might email them later :)
[12:11] <SajjaD> hello every one. How can i set my mic? it doesn't work
[12:11] <Kowalczyk> Dr_Willis: thank you so much :) that worked
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> SajjaD: what apps have you tried (please don't say skype)
[12:11] <SajjaD> the default app of ubuntu
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> SajjaD: sound recorder?
[12:11] <SajjaD> ActionParsnip: yes
[12:12] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  weird that the installer miss-installed grub
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> SajjaD: if you run:  alsamixer    are all levels cranked and unmuted?
[12:12] <SajjaD> ActionParsnip: i have to run it in terminal?
[12:13] <siva4080> ActionParsnip: Can I see my adhoc network on Windows Laptops also ?
[12:13] <Ormie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028482/
[12:13] <Kowalczyk> Dr_Willis: ya... but at least it worked..
[12:13] <Kowalczyk> thank you :)
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> siva4080: if you scan for the new network it should be seen
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> SajjaD: yes
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> SajjaD: cursors to select and change levels, M to un/mute and ESC to exit
[12:14] <_raven_> has anyone experience with KDENLIVE in ubuntu 12.04? need some help and #kdenlive is silent
[12:15] <SajjaD> ActionParsnip: you are right.the mic levels where disabled
[12:15] <phanindraramesh> ActionParsnip, that worked:). Thank you
[12:15] <Ormie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028482/
[12:15] <Ormie> Please help!
[12:15] <Ormie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1028482/
[12:15] <Ormie> Again
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> !repeat| Ormie
[12:15] <DJones> !repeat | Ormie
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  its also a good idea to at least summarize the issue along with the paste.
[12:15] <Ormie> Ah, I am afraid the question is not obvious enough
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> phanindraramesh: sweet you can do it with multiple files now outputting first the 7th then 2nd colomns
[12:15] <SajjaD> ActionParsnip: why it has 2 front mic option and 2 rear mic option?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> SajjaD: is the system a desktop PC?
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  not many people are familiar with granola
[12:17] <Ormie> :(
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> I eat granola with my Yougart. :)
[12:17] <morsnowski> does anybody know a small antivirus distro?
[12:17] <_raven_> has anyone experience with KDENLIVE in ubuntu 12.04? need some help and #kdenlive is silent
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> morsnowski: you can install clamav in the live environment and scan stuff..
[12:17] <Kowalczyk> hmm. ubuntu cant find my other screen..
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> morsnowski:  ive seen some of the AV companies have their own live-cds, and theres clamav live cds also i think.
[12:17] <SajjaD>  ActionParsnip: yes
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  what video card?
[12:17] <morsnowski> thanks guys
[12:17] <Ormie> I GIVE UP
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/granola-improves-your-netbooklaptop.html
[12:18] <Kowalczyk> Nvidia Quadro NVS 295
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Granola is not open-source   - boo
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Kowalczyk: try the boot option:   nouveau.blacklist=1
[12:18] <Ormie> ActionParsnip, I don't need the source! I just want to download it :(
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> Oh that Granola... I found that tool to be rather.. well... incorrect about a lot of its info.
[12:18] <Kowalczyk> ok... in grub.conf=
[12:18] <Kowalczyk> ?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Kowalczyk: no, you will edit /etc/defaul/grub    in the liveCD you add them slightly differently
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> Ormie:  so whats stopping you?
[12:19] <phanindraramesh> ActionParsnip, I have a file that contains the letter "(double quotes) in each line. I donot want to print that letter. How can I do that?
[12:19] <Kowalczyk> im not in live cd now
[12:19] <SajjaD> ActionParsnip: yes it is desktop pc
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Ormie: the page shows how to install it...
[12:19] <ha1dfo> hi, I'm checking this documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SingleSignOn , and i'm missing the user management part. With this setup (krb5+ldap) do I need to add users in the ldap and then create principals for them with kerberos as well?
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  it's a 3rd party, non-open source, inaccurate tool
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> SajjaD: with front and rear audio?
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> And the granola download link is dead. ;)
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> and the comments on that Page are rather harsh on granola. and that page is over 2 yrs old.
[12:20] <edgy> Hi, I have precise dual boot with windows and now wants to install quantal alongside. I will create an lv_root, lv_home and then boot from the liveCD and choose the / and /home to point to the previouse volumes, is that OK?
[12:20] <SajjaD> ActionParsnip: thanks.
[12:21] <Kowalczyk> ActionParsnip: ok. just need to find out where I should put it :D
[12:21] <divanshu> Hi, is anyone working on kernel programming ?
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  so the system is not booting right?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption
[12:21] <Kowalczyk> yes it is
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> yes it is booting right.. or yes it is not booting right>
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[12:22] <Kowalczyk> it just find one screen.. gonna add the blacklist stuff. I add it to the grub_cmdline_linux_default ?
[12:22] <Kowalczyk> its booting:)
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  you installed the nvidia drivers yet?
[12:22] <Kowalczyk> but just find one display
[12:22] <Kowalczyk> yes..
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> you rebooted afterwards?
[12:22] <Kowalczyk> yes
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  you ran the nvidia-settings tool?
[12:22] <Kowalczyk> or it found the nvidia driver in the additional drivers
[12:22] <Kowalczyk> hmm no
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> Kowalczyk:  there ya go.. You dont use the normal monitors/display tool with nvidia drivers. You use the nvidia-settings tool
[12:23] <Kowalczyk> aha.. lol :D thanks. yeah..
[12:23] <lmaokid> Guys. How do I add Ubuntu to the Windows Bootloader? Just installed ubuntu, but the Grub didn't install properly, it's not showing up
[12:23] <Kowalczyk> awesome:D
[12:23] <Kowalczyk> im used to slackware. hehee.. dont remember how to do it from gui :D:D hehe
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> lmaokid:  you did a WUBI inside windows isntall? or a normal "booted the cd" and installed type install?
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> nvidia-settings tool works in slackware last i tried it. :P
[12:24] <edgy> phanindraramesh: you can sed for that
[12:24] <lmaokid> Clean Alternate install
[12:24] <Kowalczyk> yeah I didnt have to use it though.. I fixed it in xorg :D hehe
[12:24] <phanindraramesh> edgy, got it using cut and paste. thank you
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> lmaokid: if you are dual booting, then you should boot a live cd and reinstall grub. that will be easier then trying to get windows to boot the ubuntu install.
[12:24] <divanshu> quit
[12:25] <Womkes> Is it ok to crosspost on ubuntu-users mailing list and also make a topic on the ubuntu forums, or is this now allowed?
[12:25] <lmaokid> Windows is intalled on a different HDD
[12:25] <tailf> does anyone know the 64 bit equivalent for this location? im trying to add the setting 'GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1' to somewhere useful but it seems this is the wrong path (as the file doesnt exist): usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> lmaokid:  live cd and  boot-repair tool - is handy. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> lmaokid:  so  You dont see a grub meniu at all? If so. then you MAY be booting the wrong hard drive
[12:26] <Kowalczyk> Dr_Willis: that did the trick :D
[12:26] <Ca11um> ActionParsnip: Looking at that Granola link, the download link is broken?
[12:26] <Ca11um> For the deb
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> Ca11um:  :)  i said that earlier..
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> Ca11um:  and its got rather poor comments about the tool.
[12:26] <lmaokid> There's no GRUB.
[12:27] <lmaokid> Like I've told you, The OSs are installed on different HDDS
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> lmaokid:  when i use 2 hds i normally put grub on the ubuntu HD and set the bios to boot that hd.  leaving the windows HD totally untouched
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> lmaokid:  so there CAN be a grub. on the other hd.
[12:27] <lmaokid> oh
[12:27] <lmaokid> Ok, I'll set the Ubuntu HDD to boot first then
[12:27] <lmaokid> Thanks mate, gonna try now :)
[12:28] <Ca11um> Dr_Willis: Know of any alternative tools that do the same job? I've been looking for a while for software that shows the annual cost and power consumption of a laptop/desktop, and ways of saving energy.