[07:45] <Sylenze> aw i don't want to browse internets =(
[07:45] <namol> then you must not want to learn
[07:46] <Arwen> if you don't want to put effort into something, don't expect anything out of it
[07:46] <Ace2016> Mark_Newb: you will need envy: http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[07:46] <Mark_Newb> ace i followed the instructiosn from when you type !nvidia
[07:46] <Arwen> oh god no, not envy
[07:46] <Arwen> !envy
[07:46] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[07:46] <Sylenze> chmod: missing operand after `+x'
[07:46] <Arwen> Sylenze, chmod +x *FILENAME*
[07:46] <Mark_Newb> ok so what do i do
[07:46] <Sylenze> Arwen do i have to do cd first?
[07:47] <Arwen> ...............
[07:47] <Sylenze> Arwen: try to be nice, you know you want friends!
[07:47] <Mark_Newb> can someone just please help me install my 8800GTS without using any special programs or scripts
[07:47] <Arwen> you can perform operations on files in the same directory as you by calling their filenames
[07:47] <Arwen> you can perform operations on files not in the same directory by prefixing the name with a path
[07:47] <Sylenze> Arwen: thanks =D
[07:47] <Arwen> like /home/loser/Desktop/pr0n.jpg
[07:48] <Ace2016> Mark_Newb: well that app is pretty much the fasiest way to do it, i tried myself to set it up and failed completely
[07:48] <Sylenze> -.-
[07:48] <Sylenze> at least you gave it a try
[07:49] <wckdkl0wn> what other burning software is there for dvd drives other then k3b? i did a simulate with k3b and worked fine.. tryed to do an actual burn and it errored out
[07:49] <Sylenze> ./jahshaka-dapper-x86.sh: 3: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[07:49] <Arwen> pastebin the script
[07:49] <Sylenze> Arwen: gimme a pastebin
[07:49] <wckdkl0wn> !pastebin
[07:49] <Arwen> !pastebin
[07:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:49] <Sylenze> but that's netherlands
[07:50] <Arwen> so?
[07:50] <Arwen> pastebin.ca is in Canada if that helps
[07:50] <Sylenze> cool
[07:50] <hydrogen> it doesn't matter where it is
[07:50] <hydrogen> they won't steal your data's!
[07:50] <Sylenze> they will!
[07:51] <Sylenze> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36066/
[07:51] <wckdkl0wn> what can i use for burning dvd projects?
[07:51] <Ace2016> k3b
[07:51] <cloakable> k3b
[07:51] <wckdkl0wn> i tryed k3b
[07:51] <emilsedgh> wckdkl0wn: mandvd, k3b .. ?
[07:51] <Sylenze> ubuntu is my father
[07:51] <wckdkl0wn> worked fine in simulation.. on actual burn it always errors out
[07:52] <BluesKaj> wckdkl0wn, there are few others like k9copy , acidrip and tovid-gui, tovid-cli
[07:52] <Ace2016> what are you tring to do?
[07:52] <wckdkl0wn> who u talking to Ace2016
[07:52] <wckdkl0wn> me?
[07:52] <Ace2016> you
[07:52] <BluesKaj> wckand of course the ever popular devede ...
[07:53] <wckdkl0wn> i converted a xvid movie to dvd format.. now i am tryin to burn it
[07:53] <BluesKaj> wckdkl0wn, devede , as well
[07:53] <Ace2016> oh well guessing its not k3b's fault then
[07:54] <wckdkl0wn> well k3b in simulation mode ruined one of my blanks lol.. at the end of simulation it copied a small bit of data to the dvd
[07:55] <Sylenze> help!!
[07:55] <Sylenze> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36066/
[07:56] <nukes_> Verlassen
[07:57] <Sylenze> help! i installed pnet from reposority but i can't find it!
[07:57] <llutz> Sylenze: i don't know, but i guess its a commandline prog, so open konsole and type pnet
[07:58] <wckdkl0wn> i wonder if i can burn a cd in innotek virtual box
[07:58] <BluesKaj> wckdkl0wn, are you reading any of the responses to you complaints ?
[07:58] <kai__> #kubuntu-de
[07:58] <wckdkl0wn> yea i tryed those programs
[07:59] <wckdkl0wn> one couldnt import my vid files
[07:59] <Ace2016> brb, chewing lightbulbs was a bad idea
[08:00] <secleinteer> hi, does anyone know how to make new tabs in konqueror open to ~ instead of about:blank?
[08:00] <BluesKaj> wckdkl0wn, which one ?
[08:00] <wckdkl0wn> devede
[08:01] <Ace2016> secleinteer: settings > configure konqueror > web behaviour and in tabbed browsing section tick "Open links in new tab instead of new window"
[08:01] <BluesKaj> k9copy works well
[08:02] <spongebob_> hello mr or mss
[08:02] <secleinteer> Ace2016: the problem's not that links are opening in new windows, it's that when i open a new tab in konqueror, it's defaulting to about:blank instead of ~
[08:02] <sylenze> klipper ftw!!
[08:02] <Turazoor> anyone know the command for searching for wlan APs?
[08:03] <spongebob_> i forget to xorg.conf file creator command
[08:03] <spongebob_> for rebuild
[08:04] <llutz> Turazoor: iwlist s
[08:04] <Turazoor> cheers llutz.... again lol
[08:04] <sylenze> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36066/ <- need help please!
[08:04] <Turazoor> ... oh ok...
[08:05] <Turazoor> apparently wlan1 doesn't support searching for Wlan APs??????... so what else is it for hey lol
[08:05] <Psycoshot> Hey, has anyone here had a problem with Amarok, the list, instead of it being 1 lighter colour, one darker, it goes 1 REALLY light the other normally dark.
[08:05] <Psycoshot> Right now my lsit goes white dark blue, white, dark blue
[08:06] <Turazoor> Psycoshot: are you sure it isn't the theme?
[08:06] <danielronin> can anyone here assist me in patching my wireless driver?
[08:06] <Psycoshot> Well, It was fine, but when I change desktops and look back, its changed
[08:06] <danielronin> is it just a matter of make with -enable-kernel-module?
[08:06] <Ace2016> #kde should know
[08:06] <Ace2016> secleinteer: #kde should know
[08:07] <secleinteer> Ace2016: i asked there, and no one replied :(
[08:07] <spongebob_> huhu
[08:09] <sylenze> is it legal to rip my own Music CD?
[08:10] <llutz> sylenze: sure
[08:10] <sylenze> but it says copy protected!
[08:10] <sylenze> (the cover says so)
[08:10] <secleinteer> sylenze: doesn't matter, you'll be fine ;)
[08:11] <sylenze> secleinteer: oO
[08:11] <sylenze> it's Gorillaz - Demon Days
[08:11] <Arwen> so what?
[08:11] <Arwen> nobody can tell you what you do with your own stuff
[08:11] <sylenze> they can
[08:11] <sylenze> like Windows
[08:11] <Arwen> ...
[08:11] <sylenze> "you succesfully installed updates now click the button to restart, else your parents will die"
[08:12] <Arwen> ................
[08:12] <sylenze> that really annoyed me =/
[08:12] <Arwen> don't troll, it's unbecoming
[08:12] <secleinteer> .........
[08:12] <sylenze> troll?
[08:12] <secleinteer> i.e. saying stupid/annoying things
[08:12] <sylenze> .......
[08:13] <level1> !aptfix
[08:13] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:14] <sylenze> help i got a "malformed" line!!
[08:14] <nicolai_> Arwen: In many countries the law prevents you from circumventing copy protection - even if it is for personal use.
[08:14] <secleinteer> nicolai_: yeah but it's not like the police is going to come knocking on my door if i rip a dvd
[08:14] <sylenze> yes i will get 5 years of jail
[08:15] <secleinteer> sylenze: what country you in?
[08:15] <sylenze> secleinteer: i live in germany (but i'm not from germany!!)
[08:15] <llutz> It's your own fault if you buy "copyprotected" cds
[08:15] <secleinteer> sylenze: well do it anyway
[08:15] <sylenze> llutz: it was a present
[08:15] <secleinteer> you're not going to go to jail
[08:16] <nicolai_> secleinteer: But it's still illegal. I wouldn't care either, but I just thought it needed to be said
[08:16] <sylenze> secleinteer: but Kaffeine only knows ogg vorbis =(
[08:16] <Savak> You get internet in German prisons don't you? ;)
[08:16] <sylenze> nicolai_: but it's my own music CD
[08:16] <llutz> nope
[08:16] <sylenze> Savak: what?
[08:16] <Arwen> But you don't own the music, you own the CD
[08:16] <sylenze> Arwen: so i can hear it on my computer
[08:16] <Savak> and TV
[08:16] <llutz> Savak: tv yes
[08:16] <sylenze> i can't hear my tv
[08:17] <Savak> never mind sylenze :p
[08:17] <nicolai_> sylenze: It is only your own music if you made it yourself. Many record companies would say the CD was only a 'one person' license.
[08:17] <spongebob_> thnx guys
[08:17] <sylenze> yay!
[08:17] <sylenze> i'm a pirate!!!
[08:17] <spongebob_> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
[08:17] <spongebob_> sudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum'
[08:17] <spongebob_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:18] <Savak> your pretty much renting optical media
[08:18] <secleinteer> !lame
[08:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lame - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <sylenze> lol
[08:18] <sylenze> ubuntu is lameless!
[08:18] <secleinteer> !mp3
[08:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:18] <secleinteer> !restrictedformats
[08:18] <Arwen> by the way: mp3s suck in every sense of the word
[08:19] <sylenze> Arwen: help me please!
[08:19] <secleinteer> yeah, rip to flac if you can
[08:19] <Savak> What do u use then Arwen
[08:19] <sylenze> Arwen: sources.list is root only, but i'm the only user!
[08:19] <Arwen> !sudo | sylenze
[08:19] <ubotu> sylenze: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:20] <sylenze> nono
[08:20] <sylenze> i need to change something in it, i can't have sudo to make it
[08:20] <secleinteer> !flac
[08:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:20] <Arwen> Savak, Vorbis for stereo audio, HE-AAC for really low bitrate audio or multi-channel audio, and FLAC for archival.
[08:21] <sylenze> Arwen: i need to delete the line 45 in sources.list
[08:21] <Savak> hmmm research time for me
[08:21] <Arwen> sylenze, sudo nano file
[08:21] <Arwen> Whether or not Vorbis or LC-AAC is better for medium bitrate stereo is arguable, but Vorbis makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside
[08:22] <secleinteer> sylenze: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping#head-dccaf9e84d2ac4d5a52567d5a37d011ebb46285f
[08:22] <secleinteer> very easy to rip CDs
[08:22] <secleinteer> Arwen: what's worng  with flac?
[08:23] <Arwen> It reduces my disk space?
[08:23] <Arwen> huhuh
[08:23] <sylenze> Arwen: how can i save in nano?
[08:23] <Arwen> sylenze, ctrl+o
[08:23] <secleinteer> is disk space really a problem anymore?
[08:23] <sylenze> thanks
[08:23] <Arwen> secleinteer, YES
[08:23] <Arwen> I have 200MB free space left
[08:23] <secleinteer> lol ok
[08:23] <sylenze> flac?
[08:23] <sylenze> sounds like warfare
[08:23] <secleinteer> hahaha
[08:23] <secleinteer> i've got about 200 GB left here ;)
[08:23] <Arwen> FLAC is a lossless codec, designed for making 1:1 copies of audio
[08:24] <Arwen> secleinteer, hint: disk space is meant to be used
[08:24] <sylenze> Arwen: that's not good
[08:24] <secleinteer> FLAC == free lossless audio codec
[08:24] <secleinteer> Arwen: yeah, i've already used 550GB
[08:24] <secleinteer> i'm working on it ;)
[08:24] <sylenze> i don't have bat ears, i can't tell the difference between full quality mp3 and "original"
[08:24] <secleinteer> i tend to burn stuff to dvd though, so that saves me space
[08:24] <sylenze> btw, my boxes suck
[08:24] <Arwen> sylenze, it's not meant for listening
[08:24] <secleinteer> sylenze: it's an OCD thing :D
[08:24] <sylenze> secleinteer: please describe =(
[08:25] <Arwen> but so that if you need your music in say Y format, you can convert from an original source rather than a already lossy one
[08:25] <secleinteer> sylenze: describe what?
[08:25] <sylenze> oh that sounds logical
[08:25] <sylenze> scleinteer: OCD
[08:25] <Arwen> Obsessive Compulsive Disorder?
[08:25] <secleinteer> yeah lol
[08:25] <sylenze> yay, i repaired my reposority :D
[08:25] <secleinteer> only about my comp though
[08:25] <secleinteer> everything around me is a mess :D
[08:26] <sylenze> Kaffeine is lame!
[08:26] <ScorpKing> use vlc
[08:26] <secleinteer> sylenze: lol why's that?
[08:26] <Arwen> oh god no, not VLC
[08:26] <secleinteer> lol
[08:26] <ScorpKing> lol
[08:26] <sylenze> scleinteer: it takes a week to decode the album!
[08:26] <secleinteer> only reason vlc is bad is because it uses gtk
[08:26] <Arwen> it uses wxwidgets
[08:26] <secleinteer> sylenze: use the kio-slaves in konqueror
[08:27] <Arwen> which on Linux means it effectively uses GTK+, but there's a difference
[08:27] <secleinteer> type 'audiocd:/' into the address bar
[08:27] <sylenze> i don't like slave workers
[08:27] <secleinteer> yeah well too bad :P
[08:27] <Arwen> anyway, VLC crashes every other minute and can't even show subtitles
[08:27] <ScorpKing> not mine
[08:27] <secleinteer> Arwen: actually, i had trouble with subtitles in both kaffeine and vlc :P
[08:27] <secleinteer> only mplayer worked for that
[08:27] <Arwen> MPlayer
[08:27] <sylenze> Arwen: i installed "pnet" from the reposority, but i can't find it! please help me master!
[08:27] <Arwen> it has libass
[08:27] <Arwen> it's the only one worth using
[08:27] <Arwen> sylenze, pnet?
[08:28] <secleinteer> and the OSD of the play time in kaffeine is really annoying
[08:28] <sylenze> Arwen: it's c# on linux without GTK!
[08:28] <Okapi> how can you turn of the splash on booting?
[08:28] <sylenze> Okapi: system settings, appreance
[08:28] <sylenze> i mean splash screen
[08:28] <Arwen> try "dpkg -L pnet"
[08:28] <ScorpKing> bootsplash?
[08:28] <Arwen> it'll show you what files it installed
[08:28] <Okapi> sylenze: thank you
[08:29] <Okapi> yes, bootsplash
[08:29] <ScorpKing> somewhere in grub. :-)
[08:29] <sylenze> Okapi: you have KEbab or Ubuntu?
[08:29] <secleinteer> Okapi: you want to see the messages at boot?
[08:30] <secleinteer> if you just want to see it once, press ctrl+alt+f1
[08:30] <Okapi> yes, I want be able to see the message on boot
[08:30] <secleinteer> ctrl+alt+f1 will work
[08:30] <secleinteer> permanent solution is in grub config file
[08:30] <Okapi> I have Kubuntu Feist
[08:30] <secleinteer> go to /etc/grub/grub.conf for that
[08:31] <secleinteer> i mean /boot/grub/grub.conf
[08:31] <Okapi> ok, thank you guys. Let try...
[08:31] <secleinteer> hmmm, it's not in there....
[08:32] <ScorpKing> i think there is a nosplash option in /boot/grub/menu.list
[08:32] <secleinteer> there we go
[08:32] <secleinteer> menu.list
[08:32] <maria> hola
[08:32] <secleinteer> "# defoptions=quiet splash" <-- that might be it
[08:32] <maria> hello
[08:33] <ScorpKing> ya
[08:33] <Okapi> hello maria
[08:33] <maria> hello okapi, how are u?
[08:33] <Okapi> maria: fine and yourself?
[08:34] <cherva> from where i can change the bit depth of the desktop ?
[08:35] <maria> okapi: fine too
[08:35] <Okapi> maria: what is new in your place?
[08:36] <llutz> cherva: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:36] <sylenze> Arwen: WHY DID YOU DO THAT %$&%$&$
[08:36] <secleinteer> sylenze: what happened? :P
[08:36] <sylenze> -.-'
[08:36] <Arwen> whay?
[08:36] <sylenze> why did you do that to me
[08:37] <Arwen> do what?
[08:37] <sylenze> that ctrl+alt+f1 thingy
[08:37] <sylenze> you kknow i'm new to kubuntu
[08:37] <Arwen> I didn'
[08:37] <andrew_> what does that do?
[08:37] <Arwen> [14:30]  <secleinteer> if you just want to see it once, press ctrl+alt+f1 <-- you mean that?
[08:37] <sylenze> that's more worse then alt+f4 on windows!
[08:37] <Arwen> ctrl+alt+f1 brings up the first virtual terminal
[08:38] <Arwen> usually a command shell
[08:38] <ScorpKing> sylenze: press ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to graphics
[08:38] <sylenze> man -.-
[08:38] <Arwen> or 8 or 9 if your kdm is broken like mine
[08:38] <sylenze> that's like sudo for me
[08:38] <secleinteer> HAHAHAHA
[08:38] <andrew_> yo....
[08:38] <secleinteer> sylenze: did you hit ctrl+alt+f1 and not know how to get back?
[08:38] <andrew_> linux is the best...
[08:38] <sylenze> scleinteer: i tested ctrl+f2, f3 and f4 -.-
[08:39] <sylenze> arwen: you ow me something
[08:39] <secleinteer> sylenze: should've gone up to 7 :P
[08:39] <Arwen> I didn't tell you to do that...
[08:39] <sylenze> arwen: now you have to tell me how to get pnet running?!
[08:39] <sylenze> Arwen: but you knew i would do that...
[08:39] <Arwen> sylenze, I don't know, never used that
[08:39] <secleinteer> sylenze: no one told you to do that, i told okapi to do that :P
[08:39] <Arwen> "dpkg -L pnet" shows what files it has, maybe that'll be a clue
[08:39] <sylenze> Arwen: but it's an error!
[08:40] <sylenze> secleinteer: oh man!
[08:40] <sylenze> secleinteer: then YOU have to tell me how to get it running
[08:40] <ScorpKing> sylenze: he just tried to help.
[08:40] <secleinteer> i don't even know what pnet is.....
[08:40] <sylenze> ScorpKing: now he try again =D
[08:40] <ScorpKing> lol
[08:41] <sylenze> secleinteer: it's not about pnet, it's about things disapear from my resopotiry
[08:41] <maria_> alguien que hable espaol?
[08:41] <secleinteer> sylenze: well don't mess with the repo file
[08:41] <ScorpKing> !es | maria_
[08:41] <ubotu> maria_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:41] <sylenze> secleinteer: no, i downloaded it!
[08:41] <maria_> muchas gracias ubotu
[08:42] <sylenze> search adept manager for pnet
[08:42] <secleinteer> sylenze: you can't download the repo file, it comes with the distro.....
[08:42] <sylenze> secleinteer: never said so Oo
[08:42] <andrew_> what is pnet all about?
[08:42] <secleinteer> .......
[08:42] <sylenze> it's c# on Linux without GTK!!!
[08:42] <secleinteer> you said something about repo file, then said you downloaded it
[08:43] <Arwen> !shout
[08:43] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!  I'm trying to install firefox, and it didn't come with a ./configure . What do I do about it?
[08:43] <llutz> sylenze: could you plz try to behave like an adult human. thanks
[08:43] <secleinteer> bgt421: i think it's precompiled
[08:43] <sylenze> bgt412: open console and make sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:43] <andrew_> I'm kinda new to the Linux thing, so I hope ya'll don't mind all the questions....
[08:44] <secleinteer> you just run the firefox script in there
[08:44] <sylenze> llutz: sorry but i'm not an adult human
[08:44] <llutz> sylenze: i thought so
[08:44] <andrew_> I'm actuall a pc repairs technician,,  I'm used to the whole Windows thing, but I decided I want a change...
[08:44] <andrew_> lol..
[08:45] <DexterF> hi
[08:45] <sylenze> there is svn for windows, it's like having a konsole inside cmd shell
[08:45] <DexterF> need a lil help with avidemux. audio isn't in sync with the vid, can I autoscan the offset somehow?
[08:45] <Arwen> #avidemux maybe?
[08:45] <Savak> that would defeat the point of a konsole lol
[08:46] <andrew_> oh cool....
[08:46] <elite101> hahhahaahahahaha lol
[08:46] <elite101> http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vg05vToa7Zk
[08:46] <elite101> dancing monkeys funny as hell
[08:46] <sylenze> elite101: i like dancing animals!
[08:46] <sylenze> who doesn't ;D
[08:47] <Savak> that sucked lol
[08:47] <Sylvarant> hello
[08:47] <ax1s> having issues with wg111 v2 netgear ..
[08:47] <sylenze> hi
[08:47] <Tomi-idle> any program out there to communicate with hp lcd display on linux? (windows has hp my display)
[08:47] <ax1s> alternate driver won't rmmod as not found
[08:47] <ax1s> yet ndiswrapper sees the alternate driver loaded
[08:47] <ax1s> how do i remove this alternate driver
[08:48] <bgt421> ok, I used apt-get install for firefox, and I get about 5 X server errors and then a bunch of gecko errors, and then it opens. Also, there aren't pretty little buttons in my Kmenu or panel. do I need to mangae those separately, or did something go bad in the install?
[08:48] <ax1s> i've got rt*everything blacklisted, rebooted
[08:48] <bgt421> That's from typing "firefox" in the terminal
[08:48] <Psycoshot> Hey, does anyone here use Kiba-Dock??
[08:48] <Sylvarant> nope
[08:48] <Psycoshot> I'm trying to get stacks to work, is it like a KDE issue?
[08:48] <sylenze> how can i run rpm files?
[08:49] <hydrogen>  jhardy
[08:49] <hydrogen> OO
[08:49] <hydrogen> OoO
[08:49] <llutz> !rpm | sylenze
[08:49] <ubotu> sylenze: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[08:49] <ax1s> sylenze: install alien and convert them
[08:49] <sylenze> ok thanks...
[08:49] <ax1s> sudo apt-get install alien ; alien file.rpm
[08:49] <sylenze> what does rpm mean?
[08:49] <ax1s> redhat package manager?
[08:49] <Arwen> Redhat Package Manager
[08:50] <Sylvarant> any one know how to set up qt in kdevelop ??
[08:50] <ax1s> anyone here have netgear wg111v2 experience
[08:50] <elite101> YEAH
[08:50] <elite101> a router?
[08:50] <ax1s> nah usb wifi card
[08:50] <Savak> ouch
[08:50] <ax1s> :/
[08:50] <ax1s> was workin finec b4 tho which is upsetting
[08:51] <Savak> what'd u change? :P
[08:51] <ax1s> updated heh
[08:51] <ax1s> now ubuntu has their own driver for it and won't let me use ndiswrapper
[08:51] <ax1s> and the ubuntu driver breaks
[08:51] <Psycoshot> Hey, does anyone here use Kiba-Dock??I'm trying to get "stacks" to work for it. I was wondering if it was a KDE problem?
[08:51] <Arwen> oh god... docks..
[08:51] <ax1s> ndiswrapper tells me "alternate drive present: rtl8187 "
[08:51] <ax1s> so i blacklist, reboot
[08:52] <sylenze> haha dancing monkeys xD
[08:52] <ax1s> same msg
[08:52] <ax1s> rmmod rtl8187 : module not found in /proc/modules
[08:52] <ax1s> so i find the all rtl8187 stuff, rename it ... same thing
[08:52] <sylenze> ok another question: how can i run .run files?
[08:52] <ax1s> sylenze: chmod a+x file.run
[08:52] <ax1s> ./file.run
[08:53] <sylenze> thanks
[08:53] <inaety> hello, i have a bunch of mp3's in one folder like 2500...is there anyway to have a program read their id3 tags and place them in folders according to artist > album > song?
[08:53] <sylenze> wow, i have drivers now =D
[08:53] <ax1s> nice
[08:53] <ax1s> hahaha
[08:53] <ax1s> i'm about to smash this netgear usb thing
[08:54] <Savak> sorry ax1s, beyond me :(
[08:54] <ax1s> ahh no worries
[08:54] <ax1s> my relationship with computers is a love/hate thing
[08:54] <Savak> likewise, could always rollback the hard way :P
[08:54] <ax1s> hehehe
[08:54] <sylenze> help! is this xorg?
[08:54] <ax1s> do you know if re installing
[08:54] <ax1s> will screen up EVMS
[08:55] <ax1s> Savak: which drivers you installing
[08:55] <ax1s> er
[08:55] <ax1s> sylenze:
[08:55] <sylenze> "install driver 8.40.0 on X.Org 7.1 and later" ati graphics driver
[08:55] <ax1s> sylenze: are you install an old version of ati driver specifically
[08:55] <ax1s> sylenze: or just trying to install ati driver period
[08:55] <sylenze> ax1s: my graphics card is older then i am
[08:55] <Savak> I would think so ax1s
[08:55] <ax1s> hehehe
[08:56] <sylenze> or shall i generate Distribution specifik spackage
[08:56] <Savak> sylenze must have a 7800 hehe
[08:56] <ax1s> good question :[
[08:56] <sylenze> Savak: no, x300
[08:56] <ax1s> i have x200
[08:56] <sylenze> ak1s: so everythings fine?
[08:56] <ax1s> heheh
[08:56] <sylenze> i clicked on "new drivers" at ati.amd.com (sad that it fused) and then Radeon -> x300
[08:57] <ax1s> i just installed the ubuntu way
[08:57] <ax1s> and it worked
[08:57] <sylenze> ax1s: how?
[08:57] <sylenze> resoptiry?
[08:57] <ax1s> let me see, sec
[08:57] <sylenze> reposority
[08:57] <ax1s> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way
[08:57] <sylenze> oh no a guide D:
[08:58] <ax1s> xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:58] <ax1s> then i changed ati to fglrx
[08:58] <sylenze> man that hurts
[08:58] <ax1s> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:58] <sylenze> i don't want a new driver now my brain hurts
[08:59] <ax1s> sudo nano /etc/X11/Xorg.conf - changed "ati" to fglrx
[08:59] <ax1s> alt-control-backspaced X-windows
[08:59] <ax1s> bamo
[08:59] <ax1s> fglrxinfo =
[08:59] <ax1s> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[08:59] <ax1s> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON XPRESS Series
[08:59] <ax1s> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)
[08:59] <Streetsurfer> anyone here use fglrx ati drivers and manage to get s-video output? (8.38.x drivers cos 8.40.x) screws up with mesa :/
[09:00] <ax1s> i haven't tried recently but i swear it worked before
[09:00] <ax1s> i had to do something special with aticonfig tho
[09:00] <sylenze> it's strange
[09:00] <sylenze> i don't trust xorg
[09:01] <ax1s> i don't trust ATI, period
[09:01] <sylenze> i trust ATI
[09:01] <ax1s> i don't anymore.. nvidia all the way
[09:01] <sylenze> how can i install my ati driver
[09:01] <ax1s> i just told you how
[09:01] <ax1s> hahaha
[09:01] <ax1s> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[09:01] <ax1s> oh
[09:01] <andrew_> can someone tell me the latest version of Java runtime environment for linux?
[09:01] <ax1s> via original driver .. hmm
[09:01] <sylenze> T_T
[09:01] <sylenze> ax1s: perhaps YOU know how to get pnet working?
[09:02] <ax1s> sylenze:  the modelling program?
[09:02] <sylenze> ax1s: no the c# programming program
[09:03] <ax1s> type sudo apt-get install pnet(then hit tab like 2-3 times)
[09:03] <ax1s> 2 times should work but sometimes i have to hit it thrice
[09:03] <bgt421> is there anything special about mounting a vfat usb external hdd? mount says it's mounted but I see none of the files
[09:03] <sylenze> ax1s: what?
[09:03] <sylenze> ax1s: i installed it allready
[09:03] <ax1s> so man pnet
[09:03] <ax1s> hahaha
[09:03] <ax1s> or type
[09:03] <ax1s> pnet(tabcomplete)
[09:04] <sylenze> ax1s: no wait
[09:04] <Sylvarant> does any one know how to set up qt in kdevelop
[09:04] <sylenze> ax1s: it's just not showing up in the "Development" tab
[09:04] <ax1s> have you restarted x windows
[09:04] <ax1s> sometimes newly added programs don't show
[09:04] <ax1s> are you sure it's a GUI program and not CLI
[09:04] <sylenze> ax1s: how to fix it?
[09:04] <sylenze> ax1s: it also happened me once with wine, then i uninstalled my OS
[09:05] <sylenze> *to
[09:05] <ax1s> just re log into x-windows and see if it's there
[09:05] <ax1s> like
[09:05] <ax1s> control-alt-backspace to restart X
[09:05] <sylenze> who's x-windows? i only have Kubuntu installed
[09:05] <ax1s> kubuntu and ubuntu run on x-windows
[09:05] <sylenze> what?!
[09:05] <sylenze> i thought it's debian!
[09:05] <ax1s> it is
[09:05] <ax1s> all linux's with GUI run x-windows just about
[09:05] <ax1s> kde and Gnome run off that
[09:05] <ax1s> they are like themese
[09:06] <ax1s> in a way
[09:06] <ax1s> x-windows = gui
[09:06] <juho> hello
[09:06] <llutz> ax1s: btw: x-window  without "s" :)
[09:06] <juho> how to connect quakenet?
[09:06] <ax1s> hehe
[09:06] <ax1s> x-window  :)
[09:07] <juho> guys..
[09:07] <Streetsurfer> anyone know how to get ati cards to enable s-video out? (tvout)
[09:07] <bgt421> does any one know why files might not show up from an external hdd even if it is mounted successfully?
[09:08] <ax1s> bgt421: do they show up in command line
[09:08] <juho> how to get starcraft work with wine? i installed it but when connecting to bnet it tilts.. and it lags anyway
[09:09] <BluesKaj> ax1s, the proper name is " X Window System " not windows ...windows confuses ppl and upsets them :)
[09:09] <ax1s> bah .. ;]
[09:09] <bgt421> ax1s:nope. That's where I'm looking. mount returns that it is mounted, but the files aren't there. df shows that 14% of the drive is in use, which is about right. They just won't show up with ls.
[09:09] <ax1s> bgt421:  what file system is it
[09:09] <bgt421> vfat
[09:09] <bgt421> and mounted as such
[09:10] <ax1s> mounted to which folder
[09:10] <ax1s> mount /dev/whatever /media/folder
[09:10] <bgt421>  /media/wd
[09:10] <ax1s> with nothing special in the command line?
[09:10] <bgt421> is where it's mounted
[09:10] <ax1s> did it auto mount o
[09:10] <bgt421> it mounted at startup I believe. That's what I told it to do at install time anyway
[09:11] <bgt421> it's in fstab
[09:11] <ax1s> paste your fstab line, but for now umount it and try mounting it manually
[09:11] <bgt421> when I try to mount it again, it says it is mounted
[09:11] <bgt421> ok
[09:11] <ax1s> maybe you forgot a 1  eg  /dev/SD1
[09:11] <bgt421>  /dev/sdb1            244136352  34068352 210068000  14% /media/
[09:11] <ax1s> woah it mounted as /media
[09:11] <ax1s> not /media/wd
[09:12] <ax1s> missing /wd in /fstab?
[09:12] <bgt421> nope, it copied wrong. here it is:
[09:12] <bgt421>  /dev/sdb1            244136352  34068352 210068000  14% /media/wd
[09:12] <ax1s> and what happens when you umount /media/wd
[09:13] <ax1s> un mount it and try it manually first
[09:13] <bgt421> just tried it. remounted and there's still nothing
[09:13] <ax1s> ha
[09:13] <ax1s> what about if you
[09:13] <ax1s> oh wait
[09:13] <ax1s> i got it
[09:13] <ax1s> sec to figure params out
[09:14] <bgt421> k
[09:14] <fkm> Why does Kubuntu use SSDP if it is expired? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Service_Discovery_Protocol
[09:14] <ax1s>  chown -hR user /media/wd
[09:15] <ax1s> will change ownership of the files on the drive
[09:15] <ax1s> recursive
[09:15] <bgt421> oh... I forgot about that :)
[09:15] <ax1s> *guess
[09:15] <ax1s> if you just prepped the drive
[09:15] <ax1s> sylenze: is it there now?
[09:16] <sylenze> ax1s: i was on the toilet
[09:16] <ax1s> lol
[09:16] <sylenze> "it" WAS there
[09:16] <ax1s> eww
[09:16] <sylenze> lol
[09:16] <sylenze> ax1s: but pnat isn't there
[09:16] <ScorpKing> stop that! lol
[09:16] <sylenze> but adept didn't work
[09:16] <ax1s> sylenze: did you restart x-window system ?
[09:17] <ax1s> oh
[09:17] <sylenze> ax1s no
[09:17] <sylenze> ax1s: but i pressed on restart
[09:17] <bgt421> ax1s: I'm getting a bunch of "operation not permitted". One for I guess every file on the drive. I did use sudo
[09:17] <ax1s> bgt421: sudo chown
[09:17] <ax1s> hehe
[09:17] <sylenze> lets make an error rally - who will be the winner, winxp or linux?
[09:17] <ax1s> forgot the sudo part
[09:17] <sylenze> lol!
[09:17] <sylenze> i hate sudo
[09:17] <ax1s> you can sudo su
[09:18] <ax1s> to login as root
[09:18] <ax1s> and not have to do it everytime
[09:18] <bgt421> ax1s: I used sudo
[09:18] <sylenze> or sudo -i
[09:18] <bgt421> or should I use su
[09:18] <ax1s> no it should have worked
[09:18] <ax1s> hrm
[09:19] <ax1s> is it an external drive
[09:19] <ax1s> what was the exact error
[09:19] <RytmenPinnen> may I ask why pidgin isnt in the repositories?
[09:20] <sylenze> bill gate's new OS is kubuntu, he's errorphile
[09:20] <bgt421> ok this is freaking wierd. After the chown mess in shell tab 3, I can see all my files in /media/wd . In shell tab 2, I got nothing
[09:20] <sylenze> RytmenPinnen: it's called GAIM
[09:20] <RytmenPinnen> hasnt it changed name?
[09:20] <ax1s> bgt421: messed
[09:20] <sylenze> RytmenPinnen: if you want pidgin then i can help you
[09:20] <llutz> RytmenPinnen: they change  gaim into pidgin after feisty-release
[09:20] <ax1s> bgt421: oh you have root access on one of the terminals?
[09:20] <sylenze> Ilutz: no
[09:20] <Savak> it's called Pidgin sylenze
[09:21] <bgt421> ax1s: no, but i did use sudo before chown in shell3
[09:21] <bgt421> h/o
[09:21] <sylenze> wait please
[09:21] <RytmenPinnen> aha ok then :), gaim 1.2 just seems kind of outdated but I can live with it
[09:21] <sylenze> pidgin isn't precompiled for kubuntu
[09:21] <ax1s> bgt421: close all shells down and use 1 for now haha
[09:21] <sylenze> you have to make sudo apt-get build-dep gaim
[09:21] <sylenze> and NOT pidgin, it isn't pidgin
[09:21] <llutz> RytmenPinnen: theres a pidgin .deb on getdeb.net
[09:21] <sylenze> then "make"
[09:21] <sylenze> and "sudo make install"
[09:21] <RytmenPinnen> btw, will I be able to update to 7.10 over then net?
[09:21] <Savak> just use the tarball
[09:22] <bgt421> hehe ok. that's wierd. in shell 2 I just used sudo su. as root it sees nothing on the drive
[09:22] <RytmenPinnen> ah, I'll look into that
[09:22] <Savak> or bz2
[09:22] <bgt421> I;m going to close and restart terminal
[09:22] <bgt421> ok, it's all there now.
[09:22] <ax1s> hehe
[09:22] <ax1s> that's wacky bg
[09:23] <RytmenPinnen> llutz thanks for that site btw, been looking for a .deb equilant to rpmfind
[09:23] <bgt421> Thanks, ax1s. Is there a good reason for what happened, or is that just a bug?
[09:23] <ax1s> bgt421: if there is a reason, i couldn't tell ya
[09:23] <sylenze> ax1s: damn, still isn't working
[09:23] <ax1s> sylenze: after restarting x?
[09:23] <sylenze> ax1s: who's x!!
[09:23] <ax1s> are you sure it's a GUI program?
[09:24] <sylenze> ax1s: no
[09:24] <sylenze> i'm not sure
[09:24] <sylenze> i think i could need an insurance
[09:25] <ax1s> sylenze: I'm installing to check it out
[09:25] <scheater5> i'm having trouble getting a real-time kernel installed
[09:25] <sylenze> ax1s: ok it's dotGNU
[09:27] <Feudster> Hello all
[09:27] <Feudster> Is anyone here familiar with getting bbc radio
[09:28] <Savak> it requires real player plugin... so no heh
[09:28] <kcg> hiya, can you start two kaffeine windows, e.g. play two different videos at the same time?
[09:28] <Feudster> i have installed real player for linux
[09:28] <sylenze> ...
[09:28] <ax1s> replayer works fine
[09:28] <Feudster> and the fire fox media extension
[09:28] <ax1s> not the one from the repos
[09:29] <Savak> tried it in the standalone player?
[09:29] <ax1s> get real player off the website and follow the installer
[09:29] <Feudster> yup
[09:29] <kcg> Feudster, i can't quite remember the details but i think for bbc radio, you play it as standalone player
[09:29] <kcg> in real player
[09:29] <Feudster> i have tried that but no luck
[09:29] <Feudster> it just causes me to loose my wired connection
[09:29] <kcg> how?
[09:29] <Feudster> i have no idea how
[09:30] <Feudster> but when i run real player i loose network
[09:30] <Savak> you using real player 10
[09:30] <Feudster> yup
[09:30] <kcg> sorry mate, i have no idea of that situation
[09:30] <Feudster> ok
[09:30] <ax1s> i'm listening to bbc radio now
[09:31] <ax1s> took a while to click in
[09:31] <ax1s> mplayer plugin
[09:31] <Savak> checked out http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/audiohelp_nix.shtml ?
[09:31] <spongebob_> hello
[09:31] <Feudster> yes have that
[09:31] <Feudster> thx will have a look
[09:31] <ax1s> and when you click on the stream
[09:31] <ax1s> there should be a link that says "use stand alone player"
[09:31] <ax1s> click on that and let it buffer
[09:32] <Savak> probably some other plugin is handling audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin
[09:32] <Savak> instructions on that link should help
[09:32] <kcg> can anyone tell me how to play two videos together in kaffeine (diff. windows) pls?
[09:32] <ax1s> kcg: i use gxine for that
[09:32] <spongebob_> i c my craph card detailes on xorg.conf but can not set to display parameters already installed ati driver (bin) i m understan w-hat happened
[09:33] <ax1s> spongebob_: wow you need about another 500 episodes of spongebob before i can understand you
[09:33] <ax1s> and fuck this i'm out
[09:33] <sylenze> ax1s what's up
[09:33] <peters_> Is there a way to use kopete w/o having to put in the password every time?
[09:34] <spongebob_> hmmm ok look externalthree.com/2.png
[09:35] <scheater5> peters: i know in gaim there's a checkbox for "remember password," is there nothing similar in kopote?  For it to work for me on kubuntu with Gaim had to have the wallet open.
[09:35] <peters_> Kopete uses Kwallet, so you have to put in the root pass to open kwallet
[09:36] <peters_> Dispite the fact that I have Kopete set to "Always allow" in kwallet, it still prompts everytime I open it.
[09:36] <RytmenPinnen> Hi there ho there
[09:36] <spongebob_> hmmm ok look externalthree.com/2.png comment pls
[09:37] <waylandbill> peters_: you don't need the root password. You need the password you specified to access the wallet. It may seem like the root password if you used the same for both.
[09:37] <peters_> Yeah, you're right. I forgot about that.
[09:38] <peters_> I don't want it to prompt for a pass though, how can I get rid of the password?
[09:38] <waylandbill> peters_: and prompting for the password is similar to pgp signing. Your allowing it only allows it to use the wallet, not enter the wallet access password
[09:38] <RytmenPinnen> dunno if you know but www.getdeb.net has ardour2.0.5.deb for ubuntu and its flavors
[09:38] <RytmenPinnen> damn
[09:38] <waylandbill> you simply remove the password from the wallet, but note the security risk inherit with doing so.
[09:38] <RytmenPinnen> sry wrong chat :D
[09:39] <peters_> how do I remove the password?
[09:40] <waylandbill> give an empty password. Click the wallet in the tray. Right click the desired wallet and select "Change Password" and use an empty one as the replacement.
[09:40] <peters_> thank you waylandbill
[09:41] <waylandbill> peters_: no problem.
[09:45] <dga> how do i exit kde? do i have to kill kdm?
[09:45] <konrad> can somebody help me with ndswrapper ?
[09:46] <Arwen> dga, um, K->Logout?
[09:46] <waylandbill> dga: ctrl-alt-backspace or /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[09:47] <DexterF> backports
[09:47] <DexterF> darn
[09:47] <DexterF> !backports
[09:47] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[09:47] <waylandbill> dga: it all depends on how far you want to exit. Logout will end the session. Stopping kdm will stop the X server. Restarting kdm or C-A-B will restart X.
[09:48] <spongebob_> why cant set my display parameters with displayconfig (printscreen stay on externalthree.com/2.png)
[09:48] <dorkface> How can I tell if my install is a 32 or 64-bit os
[09:49] <das6745> hi all, who can help me in xhtml??
[09:50] <waylandbill> dorkface: maybe /proc/version?
[09:51] <dorkface> Hmmm, it seems to just have the version
[09:51] <spongebob_> !displayconfig
[09:51] <DexterF> !pinning
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about displayconfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <ubotu> pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[09:52] <jhutchins> dorkface: uname -a
[09:54] <dorkface> still just gave version.  Would googling the version tell me?
[09:54] <DexterF> how do I pin backports?
[09:55] <Savak> whats the version dorkface?
[09:56] <fyrmedic> Can anyone offer suggestions for flashing a bios. No DOS or windows on the computer and no BIOS memory as the battery was removed. UGGGHHH!!!
[09:56] <dhq> ktorrent 2.2.2 is not there in repos
[09:56] <waylandbill> dorkface: are you trying to script something that depends on one or the other?
[09:57] <DexterF> fyrmedic: BartPE or install DOS
[09:57] <dorkface> I want to use the SMP client for folding@home, and it requires a 64-bit version of linux
[09:57] <spongebob_> foun a win 98 starting disk and paste in to cd ur bios updater and version
[09:58] <majnoon> having /etc/hosts problems with xfce :(
[09:58] <waylandbill> dorkface: did you do the install?
[09:58] <dorkface> not yet, I wanted to make sure I had a compatible OS first
[09:58] <tazgodx> is there a good how to i can read on how to install an FTP server?
[09:58] <waylandbill> !ftpd
[09:58] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[09:58] <Savak> install will prob tell u ;)
[09:58] <fyrmedic> DexterF: So, you think that it will boot off of CD if I get a DOS boot CD built then flash from dos?
[09:59] <spongebob_> majnoon u set 2 name to ur os
[09:59] <waylandbill> dorkface: you have the iso? it will say 64 in the filename if it is.
[09:59] <DexterF> fyrmedic: totally didnt understand that
[09:59] <spongebob_> check ur hostname maybe u have 2 name and different
[09:59] <majnoon> spongebob_: this my /etc/hosts 3 lines
[09:59] <majnoon> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost majnoon
[09:59] <majnoon> <IP_ADDRESS> majnoon
[09:59] <majnoon> <IP_ADDRESS> majnoon
[09:59] <Savak> what's the output of uname -a dorkface?
[10:00] <fyrmedic> DexterF: The computer with no BIOS should boot off of CD if I have one built as a bootdisk?
[10:00] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: i use vsftp. it's pretty easy to install and configure.
[10:00] <fyrmedic> DexterF: evne with no BIOS?
[10:00] <majnoon> i added last line as a test
[10:00] <Savak> can u get into bios fyrmedic?
[10:00] <fyrmedic> No
[10:00] <majnoon> spongebob_: you see that ??
[10:00] <Savak> even if u reset bios by jumping the board?
[10:01] <tazgodx> thanks
[10:01] <fyrmedic> Savak: don't know how to do that
[10:01] <waylandbill> yes. uname -a is a good call. i686 would be 32 bit version
[10:01] <DexterF> fyrmedic: "no bios"? there's no such thing as "no bios" unless you flashed it to death
[10:01] <waylandbill> and without the bios, the motherboard would fail to boot anyway.
[10:01] <Savak> so no bios means u get a black screen and nothing else on startup...? :P
[10:02] <DexterF> if even the bios is dead, youll need a new bios chip from the manufacturer or a new board
[10:02] <fyrmedic> Savak: yes
[10:02] <Savak> new board time then
[10:02] <Savak> can try jumping bios, need to locate the jumper on the board to hard-reset bios
[10:03] <fyrmedic> That's nice. Two boards in 1 week.
[10:03] <waylandbill> probably would be best to call the manufacturer
[10:03] <dorkface> Savak: "Linux l33t-fl33t 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 200 i686 GNU/Linux"
[10:03] <Savak> should be a section in manual for hard reseting bios
[10:03] <Savak> yeah waylandbill was right, i686 means 32-bit version :P
[10:03] <dorkface> doh
[10:04] <fyrmedic> It's a very old machine and I don't have any documentation from it anymore.
[10:04] <waylandbill> Savak: not always. Some manuals royally suck.
[10:04] <spongebob_> dont touch any bridge
[10:04] <Savak> otherwise you'd have ia64, x86_64 or something similar
[10:04] <spongebob_> i have 3 mainbord (no bios)
[10:04] <secleinteer> hi, does anyone know how i can assign custom shortcuts in firefox?
[10:04] <dorkface> Oh well, I'm going to reinstall it soon anyway, this is just a temp system so I can transfer backups to it
[10:05] <Savak> ah, well removing the cmos battery has the same effect
[10:05] <andrew_> can anyone help me with the java installation?
[10:05] <Savak> but if you've done that and no luck.. think your doomed
[10:05] <dorkface> secleinteer
[10:05] <dorkface> : as in keyboard shortcuts?
[10:05] <yamal> spongebob_: your displayconfig problem is probably a bug. Run "systemsettings" from a console, reproduce the error, then close it and check the console for any error messages. Put the result on a pastebin please.
[10:05] <secleinteer> dorkface: yeah
[10:05] <Biovore> andrew_: apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre
[10:05] <waylandbill> Savak: and shorting the leads of the bypass capacitor on the cmos circuit if you don't want to leave the battery out for weeks.
[10:06] <Savak> good call waylandbill :P
[10:06] <secleinteer> dorkface: you know how to do that?
[10:06] <dorkface> In your system settings, there should be a keyboad and mouse icon.  In there, there is a keyboard shortcuts icon, in there, you can do what you wish :)
[10:06] <andrew_> I already have that...
[10:07] <waylandbill> Savak: electronics major. I know all about that stuff. :-)
[10:07] <Savak> beats my kids electronics set lol
[10:07] <dorkface> secleinteer: If I may suggest, the windows key is perfect for this, since it won't be bound for ANYTHING else
[10:08] <secleinteer> dorkface: well, i'm using the 'doze key for opening the kmenu
[10:08] <andrew_> I need Jre 1.5 or greater to run frostwire.....
[10:08] <dorkface> nm then :)
[10:08] <andrew_> how do I get about that?
[10:08] <secleinteer> dorkface: the main thing i'm interested in doing is assigning shift-tab to moving back a tab in firefox
[10:08] <secleinteer> like i have in all my kde apps
[10:08] <Savak> andrew_ jre6 will work fine
[10:08] <evri2> Guys,i try to install gutsy kopete in order to use my webcam(i think that would support v4l2 but it doesn't).Now my system settings screwed up.How can i rebuild it? http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8164/snapshoat1dn9.jpg
[10:08] <secleinteer> dorkface: but idk if you can do that in a non-kde app, like firefox
[10:08] <andrew_> lemmie try it again....
[10:10] <waylandbill> Savak: the funny thing is I work in RF heat sealing, not the electronics field anymore.
[10:11] <Savak> its rare people do jobs that suit them anymore :P
[10:12] <waylandbill> Savak: so true.
[10:12] <waylandbill> still doing better than fast food so not too bad. lol
[10:13] <Savak> lol I somehow came in charge of a datacentre's network beginning of the year
[10:13] <Savak> only just got ccna :P
[10:13] <dorkface> wow
[10:15] <dorkface> Does kubuntu have a default cd burning utility?
[10:15] <llutz> k3b
[10:15] <dorkface> doh
[10:16] <dorkface> Shouldn't have missed that, hehe
[10:17] <waylandbill> dorkface: my opinion is that k3b can blow the doors off of nero.
[10:17] <ScorpKing> evri2: is those duplicates from the other menus?
[10:17] <waylandbill> kudos to k3b's development team. It's good.
[10:17] <dorkface> I don't need anything special, I just wanted to burn the 64-bit version of kubuntu
[10:18] <evri2> ScorpKing: no.My system settings screwed up.Also kcontrol is empty now...
[10:18] <waylandbill> dorkface: this is probably a little late, but do you have a supported cpu?
[10:18] <dorkface> yep, q6600
[10:18] <ScorpKing> evri2: that suck! gimme a sec.
[10:19] <holycow> hey guys
[10:19] <stephen_> hello
[10:19] <stephen_> i need help with my wifi device please......
[10:19] <holycow> where do i change the theme for the loging screen (kdm i guess)?
[10:19] <stephen_> ....i need to set it to accept ad-hoc connections
[10:20] <ScorpKing> evri2: what happens if u create a second user? does the second user have the same problem?
[10:21] <ScorpKing> holycow: in control centre
[10:21] <evri2> ScorpKing: i cannot test it now,because i removed a kde related package and all my kde apps are being uninstalled now
[10:22] <evri2> i tried to download gutsy's kopete and now all my system screwed up
[10:22] <evri2> when i try to uninstall it,all my kde related packages are being uninstalled now
[10:22] <ScorpKing> evri2: outch!
[10:23] <evri2> this is second time
[10:23] <stephen_> d--_--b
[10:23] <evri2> ScorpKing: i won't try to install anything from gutsy repos again (beside alsa because i need 1.0.14 )
[10:24] <ScorpKing> evri2: use aptitude and read the list of things that will be changed next time. :-)
[10:24] <dhq> which is the best and fastest server for repos
[10:24] <ScorpKing> the one in ur country i think
[10:24] <dorkface> Is there a settings and file trasfer equivalent in Kubuntu?
[10:25] <dhq> ScorpKing, my country servers always down
[10:25] <ScorpKing> dorkface: save everything in ur home directory including hidden files and dirs.
[10:26] <stephen_> HELP
[10:26] <stephen_> pleas
[10:26] <stephen_> e
[10:26] <stephen_> someone :(
[10:26] <ScorpKing> just wait...
[10:26] <vesnol> heyo
[10:30] <dhq> tell me the fastest server country of repos where everything is updated
[10:30] <Savak> stephen: iwconfig ethx mode Ad-Hoc ?
[10:30] <Savak> where x is your card's id
[10:30] <stephen_> ok
[10:30] <stephen_> thank you
[10:30] <stephen_> im trying to get xlink kai to work on linux
[10:30] <stephen_> i have the program running
[10:31] <stephen_> but i need to connect my wifi max to the psp
[10:33] <tazgodx> is there a way i can set up vsftp to allow my useraccount full access to another user also?
[10:33] <holycow> aha after update it work snow
[10:34] <Biovore> tazgodx: I don't think so.. That break security..
[10:34] <holycow> where do i change the 'type of login' gdm has capacity to customize login screens quite a lot, does kdm have the same facility?
[10:34] <holycow> i didn't see the ability to change anything more than a wallpaper in the admin utility
[10:34] <Biovore> tazgodx: you could put the 2 users in the same group and then make the files all +770 and change the group on all the files to that new group..
[10:39] <tazgodx> haha, i just want write access on one folder on my mythtv box. but when i installed mythtv it added the username mythtv, and i don't know the password
[10:39] <Biovore> tazgodx: you can always set one :-P
[10:40] <Biovore> tazgodx: or chmod +777 -R  to that one folder (read/write by everyone)
[10:41] <Biovore> tazgodx: if you have anonymous ftp access disabled.. That means only authenticed people can modify the directory..
[10:42] <Biovore> attack of the zombies..
[10:43] <tazgodx> hmmm, thanks, ill work on this a bit more
[10:44] <holycow> aha!
[10:44] <holycow> kdm themes
[10:44] <holycow> sweet now to figure out how to install some
[10:44] <Biovore> oO
[10:44] <Biovore> what kind of themes
[10:44] <Biovore> color?
[10:44] <holycow> http://kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=40
[10:44] <holycow> don't know
[10:44] <holycow> kdm themes it says
[10:45] <holycow> the defaultone is not that appealing imho, not complaining just customizing
[10:45] <Biovore> http://kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=40
[10:45] <Biovore> I modify my desktop up as well.. default colors suck..
[10:45] <Biovore> but be wear.. setting your backgrounds to black causes weirdness with konqueror and firefox..
[10:46] <holycow> i'm going to join up the kde4 art teams
[10:46] <holycow> i'd like to see some better variety in the default shipping packs
[10:46] <holycow> oh it does?
[10:46] <enry> goodbye!
[10:46] <holycow> aha neato, good to know
[10:46] <holycow> thx
[10:47] <Biovore> holycow: Those are kdm themes (login screens)
[10:47] <tazgodx> Biovore: i have a mythtv folder in /var/lib that i want access to on the ftp, still same way? chmod +777 -R?
[10:48] <holycow> thats what i'm talking about
[10:48] <holycow> kubuntus kdm default login is kinda boring
[10:48] <Biovore> tazgodx: probably want to not do that to /var/lib
[10:48] <DaSkreech> holycow: You just missed the competition
[10:48] <holycow> oh yeah? what competition? url?
[10:49] <DaSkreech> http://pd.ruphy.org I think
[10:49] <Biovore> holycow: To install kdm themes I think there is a packages call kdm-theme-manager that will read those and setup the login screen theme
[10:49] <Biovore> holycow: apt-get install kdmtheme
[10:50] <holycow> aha!
[10:50] <holycow> danke
[10:50] <Biovore> holycow: I get to it via using kdesu kcontrol
[10:50] <DaSkreech> holycow: In anycase you want to join #kde-artists
[10:50] <Biovore> but there is proabably a different way..
[10:51] <DaSkreech> holycow: Unless you want to improve oxygen specifically then it's #oxygen
[10:51] <holycow> *nod* k
[10:52] <holycow> lol now where did the menu item for kdm theme manager go
[10:52] <holycow> hehe
[10:52] <DaSkreech> holycow: set them to auto join :)
[10:53] <holycow> done
[10:54] <acemo> for a nvidia geforce2 would the opensource drivers or the nvidia drivers be adviced?
[10:55] <holycow> Biovore: ohhhhhh haha, there it is
[10:55] <holycow> damnit i would of never found that my self
[10:55] <holycow> danke kindly
[10:56] <Biovore> yeah.. I don't know if they every added it the default system config thing..  kinda of a glitch imo.
[10:59] <Biovore> holycow: that program dosn't work on gusty though..
[10:59] <holycow> yeah i'm running that, it successfully change the kdm theme here
[11:00] <holycow> even though it says something about override
[11:01] <Biovore> holycow: hmm..  I had to go into /etc/default/kdm.rc/ and delete the 20_kubuntu_defaults file
[11:01] <holycow> it must be a bug
[11:01] <holycow> :)
[11:02] <fyrmedic> Does anyone know of a package that I can use to recover data from a windows partition that is bad and transfer it to another drive?
[11:03] <Savak> tried Knoppix?
[11:04] <ScorpKing> dd_rescue
[11:04] <DaSkreech> fyrmedic: dd
[11:04] <DaSkreech> -rescue
[11:04] <DaSkreech> damn
[11:04] <DaSkreech> _rescue
[11:04] <DaSkreech> stupid awkward shift key
[11:05] <Savak> good thing you got two of em ;) lol
[11:05] <Biovore> roflz
[11:05] <fyrmedic> I was just reading about that dd_rescue.
[11:05] <ScorpKing> fyrmedic: dd_rescue wont get the broken drive too hot. make sure u dont stop it once it's started. the drive will get worse every time u run dd or dd_rescue on it.
[11:06] <fyrmedic> Will it clone the drive? or will it just copy to a new location?
[11:06] <holycow> Biovore: i really like the true nature kdm theme
[11:07] <holycow> sweet, thanks for  the heads up on all of htis
[11:07] <Savak> .... and possible girls
[11:13] <tazgodx> ok, so does anyone know if its possible to set up a FTP server on my home mythtv box that will give me access to write to "/var/lib/mythtv", i just want to be able to send movies and music straight to my mythtv box over FTP
[11:14] <DaSkreech> Short aswer is yes
[11:14] <DaSkreech> answer
[11:14] <tazgodx> sweet, how about a long ansewr now :)
[11:14] <tazgodx> answer
[11:14] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: i use vsftpd.
[11:14] <tazgodx> i have vsftpd set up
[11:14] <redfive> ok, why am I not getting blurr window boarders using emerarld with compiz fuzion?
[11:15] <tazgodx> but when i log on i have to use my username and pass, and it only give me access to "/home/username/"
[11:15] <DaSkreech> Though if you have ssh alredy running it's probably easier just to do that
[11:16] <GoodHabit> Hello. At kernels update /boot/grub/menu.lst updates too. But writing wrong root directory! Where I can find that settings?
[11:16] <tazgodx> i can transfer files with SSSH?
[11:16] <tazgodx> SSH
[11:16] <llutz> GoodHabit: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:17] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: yes. use scp
[11:17] <llutz> tazgodx: or sftp
[11:17] <GoodHabit> No,
[11:17] <GoodHabit> A mean where i can fix it?
[11:17] <llutz> GoodHabit: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:17] <GoodHabit> ^))
[11:17] <GoodHabit> Sry.
[11:17] <GoodHabit> I have some trobles with english
[11:18] <GoodHabit> Thy to understand - updating - autoediting wrong - i wanna fix for: updating - autoediting right.
[11:18] <stephen_> hmmm
[11:19] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: in /etc/vsftpd.conf set option anonymous_enable=YES
[11:19] <stephen_> whats the mode opposite to ad-hoc?
[11:19] <DaSkreech> GoodHabit: What is your main language?
[11:19] <llutz> stephen_: managed
[11:19] <stephen_> ty
[11:19] <GoodHabit> DaSkreech: At my main language channel I asked before, TY.
[11:19] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: and anon_upload_enable=YES
[11:20] <GoodHabit> So I'll try to rephrase it.
[11:20] <DaSkreech> GoodHabit: ok :)
[11:20] <GoodHabit> Automatic grub updater in ubuntu is updating grub wrong. Where I can find settings for automatic grub updater in ubuntu?
[11:21] <GoodHabit> Is it ok?
[11:21] <GoodHabit> )
[11:21] <GoodHabit> Because i wanna that updater working right.
[11:22] <llutz> GoodHabit: plz paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst   to pastebin
[11:22] <llutz> !pastebin | GoodHabit
[11:22] <ubotu> GoodHabit: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:22] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: and anon_mkdir_write_enable=YES
[11:23] <tazgodx> hmm, now i get "500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root"
[11:23] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: haha. gimme a sec. anonymous not enabled on mine.
[11:24] <GoodHabit> llutz: I can configure it myself. And i does it. But I want to grub-updater will workin fine. Whatever my grub - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36098/
[11:25] <DaSkreech> GoodHabit: You edited your grub manually?
[11:25] <GoodHabit> DaSkreech: Yes.
[11:25] <llutz> GoodHabit: whats wrong with it? check line 72 (# kopt) for root-fs
[11:25] <llutz> GoodHabit: and line 80 too
[11:26] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: this is getting complicated. have u tried man vsftpd.conf?
[11:26] <tazgodx> haha, tried what?
[11:26] <GoodHabit> llutz: So by editing them grub-configurator will be work fine next time?
[11:26] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: man vsftpd.conf?
[11:27] <NDPTAL85> Is Beryl native by default yet?
[11:27] <llutz> GoodHabit: thats the setting it uses, yes. i told you 3 time
[11:27] <llutz> s
[11:27] <NDPTAL85> Or installed by default I mean
[11:27] <DaSkreech> NDPTAL85: No
[11:27] <tazgodx> well, i don't know what that is, so i guess i didn't do that
[11:27] <DaSkreech> no where near stable enough
[11:28] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: haha. all the options is in there.:-)
[11:28] <NDPTAL85> DaSkreech: Do you think it will be by the time October roll around?
[11:28] <majnoon> me bored (so installing exploder)
[11:28] <DaSkreech> NDPTAL85: no but it's a pointless argument :)
[11:28] <DaSkreech> if you want it install it
[11:28] <DaSkreech> If you just want the cube I think there is a button for that by default
[11:29] <DaSkreech> off by default
[11:29] <NDPTAL85> I already have installed it
[11:29] <lamperl> hi
[11:29] <NDPTAL85> But I'm thinking of re-installing my Kubuntu install from scratch
[11:29] <majnoon> <<having less trouble with kde4 then xfce
[11:29] <NDPTAL85> I've upgraded it from an 6.10 to 7.06 and not everything went right.
[11:29] <GoodHabit> llutz: It is just because i was thinking what commented lines are ignored by grub...
[11:30] <Savak[afk] > grrr, remind me how to kill ghosts :P
[11:30] <NDPTAL85> Or 6.06 to 7.04 rather
[11:30] <llutz> GoodHabit: have you ever tried to read the comments in that file?
[11:30] <lamperl> someone knows how to get winamp style (gauss) visualization for amarok?
[11:30] <DaSkreech> NDPTAL85: #ubuntu-effects is here to ease you through the pain. It's not that bad
[11:30] <majnoon> gnome wasn't working before but nnow it is
[11:30] <stephen_> hi ppl....i have finally been able to detect my psp on an ad-hoc wireless connection. however, i need to make the ethernet be used for the internet and the wireless adapter for my ad-hoc connection
[11:30] <stephen_> any tips?
[11:30] <drif_> Savak[afk] : ghosts, on mars or maybe irc? :D
[11:30] <majnoon> xfce not working still
[11:31] <stephen_> type /msg nickserv ghost (username) (password)
[11:31] <Savak_> and if the nick is unregistered? :P
[11:31] <redfive> !compiz
[11:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:31] <majnoon> it a  <insert favorite BAD words here> /etc/hosts problem
[11:32] <ScorpKing> lol
[11:32] <stephen_> is that compiz for me?
[11:32] <vesnol> how can i install a ati driver on kubuntu 7.10?
[11:33] <stephen_> you cant kill a nick that isnt regged
[11:33] <Savak_> Thought so :(
[11:33] <majnoon> i do that for couple reasons  #1 less likely to get kicked #2 also included non-native english speakers to have fun too
[11:33] <Savak_> It'll die eventually ;)
[11:33] <SlimG> When will openoffice be replaced by koffice out-of-box in Kubuntu?
[11:33] <majnoon> like then ??
[11:34] <vers__> how do you run a game that u just installed if its not on the kmenu?
[11:34] <ScorpKing> yes
[11:34] <stephen_> vers_ what game is it?
[11:34] <vers__> amphetamine? i think...
[11:34] <vers__> im just tryin to figure this out
[11:35] <vers__> DLing games and apps
[11:35] <vers__> and stuff
[11:35] <SlimG> vers__: Alt+F2 -> write: amphetamine -> press Enter
[11:35] <vers__> thanks
[11:35] <majnoon> kappfinder ??
[11:35] <bgt421> does anyone know how I can tell what version of KDE i'm running?
[11:35] <vers__> could not run the specified command
[11:36] <vers__> ????
[11:36] <llutz> kde-config -v
[11:36] <ScorpKing> help > about
[11:36] <bgt421> thanks!
[11:36] <vers__> SlimG: u there?
[11:36] <majnoon> i think i have ALL the WM's on this box
[11:36] <majnoon> only one no working is xfce
[11:37] <majnoon> i'm in gnome now
[11:37] <SlimG> vers: write: amph instead of amphetamine
[11:38] <vesnol> does anyone know how i can install the ati driver on kubuntu?
[11:38] <vers> ha...thanks
[11:38] <majnoon> trying to figure out how to get multiple destops in kde4 though
[11:38] <SlimG> When will openoffice be replaced by koffice out-of-box in Kubuntu?
[11:38] <majnoon> vesnol: try installing envy
[11:38] <majnoon> !envy
[11:38] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[11:39] <majnoon> worked good for me
[11:39] <vers> wow....that game is horrible
[11:39] <DaSkreech> !ati | vensol
[11:39] <ubotu> vensol: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:39] <DaSkreech> !ati | vesnol
[11:39] <ubotu> vesnol: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:40] <DaSkreech> SlimG: When Koffice is up to snuff
[11:40] <Savak> whats the default firewall setup in Kubuntu
[11:40] <DaSkreech> bgt421: under any Kapp go help -> about KDE
[11:40] <SlimeyPete> it's open by default, Savak
[11:40] <DaSkreech> majnoon: Ratpoison?
[11:40] <Savak> cant seem to find any settings\interface for it
[11:41] <majnoon> think so
[11:41] <llutz> Savak: there aren't any
[11:41] <DaSkreech> !firewall
[11:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:41] <GoodHabit> llutz: No, but I will, ty.
[11:41] <SlimeyPete> there isn't one AFAIK. You could install firestarter or use iptables from the commandline
[11:41] <majnoon> me want xfce to work though
[11:41] <Savak> ah ha :)
[11:41] <majnoon> it bitches about /etc/hosts
[11:42] <llutz> majnoon: whats wrong with your hosts?
[11:42] <majnoon> not sure
[11:42] <SlimG> DaSkreech: imho openoffice is terribly slow (loading) and is poorly integrated into the kde environment, what's left to work on at koffice to finally be able to replace openoffice?
[11:42] <majnoon> llutz: i'll put it here just 3 lines
[11:42] <DaSkreech> SlimG: .doc compatibilty
[11:43] <majnoon> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost majnoon
[11:43] <majnoon> <IP_ADDRESS> majnoon
[11:43] <majnoon> <IP_ADDRESS> majnoon
[11:43] <majnoon> that it
[11:43] <anthronaut> SlimG: Haven't used an office environment for months..
[11:44] <vers> how about 3ddesktop?
[11:44] <llutz> majnoon: 1 hostname with 3 ips....
[11:44] <majnoon> i tried the last one as an experiment
[11:44] <majnoon> and ubuntu site said put first two
[11:45] <vers> ive installed but i cant find it
[11:45] <easytiger_home> my intel pro wireless worked on fiesty beta release cd i had kicking around. however it doesn't work on the feisty release
[11:45] <llutz> majnoon: strange, i never used it that way. just " <IP_ADDRESS> localhost ,  <IP_ADDRESS> majnoon"
[11:46] <easytiger_home> and is driving me crazy
[11:46] <majnoon> is there a gnome or kde wrapper for changing that ??
[11:48] <DaSkreech> hi AmyRose
[11:48] <SlimG> DaSkreech: Do you think OOo will be replaced by koffice in time for Kubuntu 8.04 ?
[11:48] <DaSkreech> Nope but it's a small matter
[11:48] <DaSkreech>  just install koffice and make it the default
[11:48] <DaSkreech>  !default
[11:48] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[11:50] <easytiger_home> !wpa
[11:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:50] <Savak> ok guarddog is mean :P
[11:51] <lzfy> Hi all
[11:51] <mikko> anyone got a moment to help out a nubbin? :o
[11:51] <SlimG> DaSkreech: I'm not having any problems with file associations, just looking forward to a Kubuntu release without OOo (/me Really dislikes it in favour of koffice)
[11:52] <SlimG> DaSkreech: Thank you for your help
[11:52] <nicolai_> !ask | mikko
[11:52] <ubotu> mikko: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:52] <Savak> Is it normal to use guarddog's built in zones?
[11:53] <DaSkreech> SlimG: jump into #kubuntu-devel and #koffice
[11:53] <DaSkreech> See what you can do to help
[11:53] <Biovore> I have noticed that UT2K4 + Gusty == OMG HAX :-)
[11:53] <mikko> does any installable version of pidgin exist yet?
[11:53] <llutz> mikko: there's a.deb on getdeb.net
[11:53] <mikko> oh
[11:53] <Biovore> I don't know if they have  made a .deb for the repos yet..
[11:54] <DaSkreech> !info pidgin gutsy
[11:54] <ubotu> pidgin: graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.1.1-2ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 572 kB, installed size 1644 kB
[11:54] <SlimG> DaSkreech: I'm not a programmer
[11:54] <DaSkreech> SlimG: Don't have to be
[11:54] <Arwen> anyone here used git before? maybe I'm stupid, but how do you checkout a copy of the source?
[11:54] <DaSkreech> Raising awareness helps a lot
[11:54] <DaSkreech> organizing a list of things to be done helps a lot
[11:54] <SlimG> DaSkreech: hmm.. good point
[11:55] <sFEARs> hello
[11:55] <[Admin] > guys, I just have a quick question.... what's the name of the tool to change the boot menu order... because now I have Windows as default OS on this machine.
[11:56] <Savak> grub?
[11:56] <sFEARs> i have a question that has a little something to do with that
[11:56] <Savak> usually /boot/grub/menu.lst if I remember
[11:56] <[Admin] > ah just a file to edit then...
[11:56] <ScorpKing> [Admin] : edit /boot/grub/menu.list
[11:56] <nicolai_> Savak: yep, you remember
[11:57] <sFEARs> i just installed kubuntu onto my windows drive.. last time i did that it automatically gave me a dual boot menu. This time it didn't. Kubuntu is installed, but i have no way to boot it. Any suggestions?
[11:57] <Savak> if your talking about linux boot loader
[11:57] <Savak> otherwise it's boot.ini in Windows, which can be done in msconfig
[11:57] <sFEARs> can i load kubuntu from boot.ini
[11:57] <sFEARs> ?
[11:57] <Savak> yes but it's complicated, best to use grub
[11:58] <sFEARs> i'm kinda new at the whole linux thing
[11:58] <[Admin] > Error: no write permission for file "/boot/grub/menu.list"
[11:58] <[Admin] > lol..
[11:58] <sFEARs> i know what grub is.. but i'm not sure how to configure it
[11:58] <[Admin] > almost as bitchy as windows
[11:58] <ScorpKing> dont think he has got grub installed on the mbr
[11:58] <Sanne> [Admin] : kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:58] <ScorpKing> soz
[11:58] <nicolai_> [Admin] : right click on the file and select edit as root or kdesu as posted above
[11:58] <sFEARs> i can't get to linux to edit
[11:58] <Savak> na bitchy is when it can't find the file, Linux is just being careful ;)
[11:58] <sFEARs> it boots right to windows
[11:59] <vers> how do i run 3ddesktop
[11:59] <[Admin] > :P
[11:59] <[Admin] > careful.. thats what theyve tried with vista then :P
[11:59] <ScorpKing> thought so
[11:59] <[Admin] > careful turned out to be messy
[11:59] <Savak> lol yeah, UAC vs sudo... ummmm think sudo is more to the point ;)
[11:59] <DaSkreech> !grub | sFEARs
[11:59] <ubotu> sFEARs: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:00] <sFEARs> i guess i could use the live cd to boot into linux & configure from there
[12:00] <sFEARs> !grub
[12:00] <Savak> Windows should always be installed first, then Linux
[12:01] <[Admin] > I'm starting to like this os more and more.. don't ruin that feeling for me... I'm quite new to that :D
[12:02] <Savak> I love kubuntu, then again, I've always loved Linux since SuSE 6.2 :P
[12:02] <[Admin] > but just in case..
[12:02] <ScorpKing> [Admin] : it takes some time to get use to. don't give up. :-D haha
[12:02] <Savak> lol yeah
[12:02] <vers> yeah
[12:02] <[Admin] > i edited the lst file, and moved the last option to the front of the list.. that's ok right...
[12:03] <[Admin] > logically it is.. but is it
[12:03] <Savak> I think somewhere it needs the default option
[12:03] <DaSkreech> [Admin] : no
[12:03] <Sanne> [Admin] : there's a default option at the beginning of the menu.lst file
[12:03] <DaSkreech> [Admin] : The order only shows up where they turn up in the menu
[12:03] <ichthudion> Hello all
[12:03] <DaSkreech> [Admin] : look for a line that starts as default followed by a number
[12:03] <ScorpKing> wont it be better to use save default?
[12:04] <DaSkreech>  the number is the line that will be booted into by default
[12:04] <DaSkreech> You are going to count the lines that say title
[12:04] <DaSkreech> and start with the number 0
[12:04] <ichthudion> I just made the switch from openSUSE to Kubuntu. I was wondering how Kubuntu will hold up as a development machine
[12:04] <DaSkreech> so the first line that says title is line 0 the second is line 1 etc
[12:04] <sFEARs> how would i enable grub instead of boot.ini
[12:04] <DaSkreech> !b-e | ichthudion
[12:04] <ubotu> ichthudion: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:05] <joey_> can someone help me im on an Asus G1S and bluetooth quit working it worked a while ago but now it just quit and i havent done anything that i can think of
[12:05] <DaSkreech> sFEARs: it's in the link ubotu sent you
[12:05] <DaSkreech> !grub > sFEARs
[12:05] <Savak> 0 is the default if it's not used anyway
[12:05] <sFEARs> i didn't know i got a link
[12:05] <sFEARs> ahh.. there it is
[12:05] <sFEARs> thanks
[12:07] <ichthudion> I never realized how many dependencies my software really had until I switched over to Kubuntu
[12:07] <vesnol> hey ati driver works thanks
[12:08] <ichthudion> Another thing, how can I enable the root account
[12:08] <ScorpKing> not a good idea.
[12:08] <Sanne> !root | ichthudion
[12:08] <ubotu> ichthudion: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:08] <[Admin] > ok, changed the 0 into the 5
[12:08] <[Admin] > reboot :P
[12:08] <javaJake> Hey guys. Would you mind answering a question about Kubuntu (before I try it out).
[12:08] <javaJake> ?
[12:09] <javaJake> I really want to go KDE
[12:09] <javaJake> But how good is Kubuntu?
[12:09] <ScorpKing> great
[12:09] <ichthudion> ScorpKing, in my position it is a good thing. During my development I tend to mess things up and need root to go back and fux it
[12:09] <nicolai_> Good enough to try.
[12:09] <javaJake> Last I tried it didn't have make on the CD - an absolute must for getting latest (needed) ndiswrapper up and going. :|
[12:09] <ScorpKing> ichthudion: use sudo instead.
[12:09] <javaJake> I mean, what OS can survive without make of all software? :P
[12:09] <nicolai_> javaJake: you shouldn't need ndiswrapper anymore.
[12:10] <javaJake> Anway, does it come on the CD?
[12:10] <javaJake> For bcm43xx? Yep
[12:10] <javaJake> :)
[12:10] <javaJake> That's still in beta and highly unstable
[12:10] <ichthudion> ScorpKing, I use sudo for every day tasks. But I would feel better being able to su if the need be
[12:10] <nicolai_> javaJake: i didn't :p
[12:10] <javaJake> And restricted to 11 MB/s AFAIK
[12:10] <ScorpKing> ichthudion: if u stil want a root password then: sudo su
[12:10] <ScorpKing> ichthudion: passwd
[12:10] <javaJake> ichthudion, no no no
[12:10] <javaJake> ichthudion, sudo is more secure. Simple as that
[12:11] <ScorpKing> i agree
[12:11] <javaJake> ichthudion, with sudo, you can set up different users so taht they can only, say, manage the network.
[12:11] <javaJake> ichthudion, sudo also makes you THINK before you DO.
[12:11] <javaJake> ichthudion, with su, you don't think.
[12:11] <javaJake> You don't have to
[12:11] <ichthudion> So you are saying that if someone gets my account password and logs in, them being able to sudo is more secure than disabling sudo and having to have a root password?
[12:11] <vers> hat is a 3d desktop switcher
[12:11] <javaJake> ichthudion, your su password is about as secure as your normal one. :)
[12:11] <llutz> ichthudion: thats the way they think
[12:11] <vers> what*
[12:12] <ichthudion> vers: beryl has one
[12:12] <DaSkreech> ScorpKing: it is a good idea as long as he understands the risks
[12:12] <vers> how do i run it
[12:12] <sFEARs> let me try it out. thanks again
[12:12] <vers> or get it to work
[12:12] <DaSkreech> javaJake: Much better
[12:12] <javaJake> ichthudion, if you make a good enough password, no one will be able to crack it unless there's a hole in Linux, in which case no password is safe.
[12:12] <ichthudion> I have been on Linux for 8 years. This whole no root is irritating
[12:12] <javaJake> ichthudion, precisely!!!
[12:12] <DaSkreech> !b-e | javaJake
[12:12] <ubotu> javaJake: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:13] <javaJake> It's irritating, because doing root things should be irritating to you in the first place!
[12:13] <ichthudion> vers: Beryl can be a pain, I'm not sure how to use it on Ubuntu but I know on Fedora and openSUSE it was complicated
[12:13] <nicolai_> javaJake: you could try installing bcm43xx-fwcutter if you need to make broadcomm wireless work.
[12:13] <javaJake> nicolai_, I did all that in Dapper days.
[12:13] <javaJake> Then I tried ndiswrapper. Whew, was that a breath of fresh air
[12:13] <DaSkreech> ichthudion: The idea is that a remote hacker KNOWS that you have a root account and that's what they try to hack. If you disable root they first have to figure out which acount is your main account then try hack that
[12:14] <tobias_> !vers | compiz-fusion
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:14] <tobias_> !compiz-fusion | vers
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz-fusion - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:14] <javaJake> !compiz | vers
[12:14] <ubotu> vers: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:14] <ScorpKing> lol
[12:14] <javaJake> :)
[12:14] <tobias_> mkay
[12:14] <DaSkreech> VirtuoS: could you stop that please
[12:14] <Sanne> VirtuoS: can you stop those notifications, please?
[12:14] <vers> wow..thanks
[12:14] <javaJake> ichthudion, here's the deal: everything bad about "sudo" is actually a good thing, except perhaps maybe the same-password-as-normal-account deal (which isn't a problem anyway, or Ubuntu wouldn't be using it as default. Ubuntu devs aren't dumb.)
[12:15] <javaJake> ichthudion, sudo is an upgrade through and through
[12:15] <tazgodx> anyone know how i can set up vsftpd to have access to "/var/lib/mythtv"? i have been trying everything, nothing is working
[12:15] <ichthudion> Except if I need to sudo an X app I can't
[12:15] <javaJake> ichthudion, stick with sudo as long as you can!
[12:15] <javaJake> ichthudion, huh? I don't understand
[12:15] <DaSkreech> !kdesu | ichthudion
[12:15] <ubotu> ichthudion: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[12:15] <nicolai_> ichthudion: just use kdesu
[12:15] <ichthudion> I know of kdesu
[12:16] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: ur back. let me check...:)
[12:16] <danielronin> how would someone add an app, like superkaramba, to start with a new session in fiesty?
[12:16] <javaJake> ichthudion, what did you mean?
[12:16] <ichthudion> Blah, it is just different, I'm opposed to change
[12:16] <javaJake> ichthudion, :)
[12:16] <ichthudion> I like one method across all of my platforms
[12:16] <winter> so .. again
[12:16] <javaJake> ichthudion, np, it confused me at first, and bugged me too
[12:16] <ichthudion> I have no sudo on Solaris
[12:16] <winter> how can i add some programs to autostart ?
[12:17] <tazgodx> thanks ScorpKing
[12:17] <javaJake> ichthudion, well... that's also good. That gives you a second to think "wait a minute". :)
[12:17] <javaJake> Anyway, I'll stop now.
[12:17] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: np. might be a little while.
[12:17] <martijn81> does enyone know an KDE-alternative for cssedit?
[12:17] <tazgodx> ill be here for a while, im done trying do figure it out alone
[12:18] <ScorpKing> lol
[12:18] <martijn81> http://macrabbit.com/cssedit/
[12:18] <javaJake> So, what's different about Kubuntu vs. Ubuntu? (If someone has a link, that'd be more appreciated.)
[12:18] <martijn81> javaJake: one is KDE one is Gnome
[12:19] <ScorpKing> javaJake: check out screenshots on kubuntu.org and kde.org
[12:19] <javaJake> No no
[12:20] <javaJake> There's differences aren't there?>
[12:20] <javaJake> I mean, make is one...
[12:20] <javaJake> But isn't Kubuntu different somehow...? I was almost sure there was... :)
[12:20] <javaJake> Well, anyway, I'll try it
[12:20] <ScorpKing> it better :D haha
[12:21] <javaJake> Ever since I installed Kopete on GNOME, and almost installed kedit (terminal within editor? NICE!) I've been considering an OS change.
[12:21] <stephen_> hmmm
[12:21] <martijn81> javaJake: just download and try the desktop-cd(live) and see for yourself. Only you can deside best.
[12:21] <stephen_> can i have two connections at the same time
[12:21] <danielronin> how do you add an app to start with a new session in KDE?
[12:21] <stephen_> like ethernet and wifi
[12:21] <danielronin> i'm trying to make superkaramba start on login
[12:22] <javaJake> martijn81, yea... *sigh*... time's limited, but I'll give it a go
[12:22] <stephen_> i want to use the ethernet as a internet connection and the wifi adapter as an ad-hoc connection
[12:22] <stephen_> but Knetwork manager only lets you have one connection
[12:23] <Biovore> stephen_: simple solution.. don't use knetwork manager..  Thats what I do..
[12:23] <stephen_> what alternative is there?
[12:24] <Biovore> The Command line..
[12:24] <llutz> stephen_: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:24] <Biovore> ^ that always works.. :-)
[12:24] <stephen_> i need to have the connections at the same time
[12:24] <stephen_> will that be possible?
[12:24] <Biovore> yes
[12:24] <stephen_> ty
[12:24] <stephen_> i love you all
[12:24] <Biovore> The GUI tools are ment for stupid simple things.. get more complex you have to go to the command line..
[12:25] <stephen_> hmmm
[12:25] <stephen_> what do i have to edit
[12:25] <stephen_> i dunno cos im new to linux
[12:25] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: try http://vsftpdrocks.org/faq/ and search google - vsftpd anonymous setup
[12:25] <DaSkreech> !autostart | danielronin
[12:25] <ubotu> danielronin: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[12:26] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: i'm still looking. will let u know if i find something.
[12:26] <tazgodx> k
[12:27] <DaSkreech> javajake: It's not so much an OS change as interface change
[12:27] <DaSkreech>  with some new apps :0
[12:27] <DaSkreech> :-)
[12:27] <DaSkreech> and a better community
[12:27] <DaSkreech>  shhhhhhh!
[12:27] <lavacano201014> how do i change display managers?
[12:28] <lavacano201014> i installed GNOME on Kubuntu and stayed with KDM, but now ive changed my mind
[12:28] <DaSkreech> !gdm
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <lavacano201014> !display managers
[12:28] <DaSkreech> lavacano201014: You can just install it I think it will ask you if you ant to switch it to the default
[12:29] <lavacano201014> i have already installed it
[12:29] <tazgodx> before you log in there is a setting to change desktop manager
[12:29] <lavacano201014> i just didnt want to use it until now
[12:29] <lavacano201014> there is?
[12:29] <lavacano201014> ill try that
[12:29] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: option - anon_root=/var/lib/mythtv
[12:29] <tazgodx> where does that go ScorpKing?
[12:30] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: in /etc/vsftpd.conf
[12:31] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: found it on http://linuxjournal.com/article/7520
[12:31] <tazgodx> SWEET!!! thanks :)
[12:31] <CPrgmSwR2> Hi, I can't get amarok to play mp3 files
[12:31] <CPrgmSwR2> it pops up with a button to install mp3 support but it then freezes up
[12:31] <ScorpKing> np
[12:32] <peters_> I'm trying to unrar an incomplete file. I'm using the command unrar e -kb <file> and it refuses to work. It extracts to about 50% then gives a CRC error, dispite the fact that I'm using the -kb switch.
[12:32] <ScorpKing> CprgmSwR2: sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs
[12:33] <soccermike1337> hello...
[12:34] <tobias_> hi there soccermike1337
[12:34] <soccermike1337> i have a question about avant window navigator
[12:34] <tobias_> and that question is ?
[12:34] <soccermike1337> im running ubuntu by the way, but they seem to ignore me over there :P
[12:34] <tobias_> ._.
[12:35] <soccermike1337> im sure they're just helping others.. anyway..
[12:35] <tazgodx> hmmm, now i have access to the correct folder, but i can't upload now :(
[12:35] <soccermike1337> ok.. well i followed the install guide for ubuntu and when i got to the part where it asks me to type in "make" into the terminal, it wont work
[12:35] <ScorpKing> tazgodx: one sec..
[12:36] <tobias_> it tells you just to type "make" ? oO
[12:36] <soccermike1337> mhm
[12:36] <soccermike1337> http://awn.wetpaint.com/page/UbuntuFeistyHowTo
[12:36] <soccermike1337> its the third line of step 4
[12:36] <CPrgmSwR2> ScorpKing: Thnx that worked