[12:01] <hatredx> so stick to checkinstall till I get it down pat in manual mode... k, thanks.
[12:01] <owh> I have two dapper questions which may or may not be related. After each reboot, I am forced to run sudo ipmasq, otherwise there is no internet traffic. The second problem is that on some occasions, that is sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, the on-board ethernet adapter does not come up. The adapter is a VT6105 [Rhine-III]  (rev 86). Any suggestions?
[12:02] <julian> what must i enter in jdbc driver class field when connecting to mysql
[12:02] <\666> does anyone know how to get windows xp back? since i only want one computer as linux (thisone) but the other is going be windows xp and i have no solution i dont have boot disc or what so ever
[12:02] <tanath> my 'main menu' app won't let me make any changes. i check a box to add something, then after a moment it unchecks itself and has no effect
[12:02] <LjL> hatredx: if a package isn't available in the official repos, tries the ones that source-o-matic lists first. if those fail too, google, and if you find something, asking here to make sure the package is sane won't hurt. ONLY use Debian packages (as in, packages for Debian not Ubuntu) if you really have to, if ever. DON'T add Debian repos anyway, install single packages. DON'T attempt to use rpms
[12:02] <\666> why cant we attemp RPS?
[12:02] <\666> rpms*
[12:03] <hatredx> rpm's are the devil!
[12:03] <\666> so is my name
[12:03] <owh> :)
[12:03] <\666> ,==
[12:03] <LjL> hatredx: don't even think of using Debian packages for things that aren't just very stand-alone applications.
[12:03] <\666> <==
[12:03] <mc44> \666: "get windows back"? just reinstall it...
[12:03] <hatredx> did I mention the slackware convertie =P
[12:03] <\666> install it with what lol
[12:03] <tanath> actually, it only does it for some things. i can't get 'add/remove apps' back. nor synaptic
[12:03] <mc44> \666: your windows cd...
[12:03] <Rage> ?update
[12:03] <Rage> ? update
[12:03] <\666> i have no windows CD can you not read?
[12:03] <Nemes> I had a problem when I was fetching my email with evolution and now I've a lot of duplicated messages (they were downloaded twice). Does anybody how could I delete them?
[12:03] <Rage> ? upgrade
[12:03] <LjL> !upgrade
[12:03] <Rage> ?upgrade
[12:03] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:03] <Devyll> I have problems installing proftpd. The mirror is not responding. How do I tell apt-get another mirror ?! .. or something like that ? I downloaded the .deb package but when I try to install it it tells me that the dependencies are missing
[12:03] <mc44> \666: then you can't install windows
[12:04] <LjL> Rage: stop spamming
[12:04] <Rage> LjL: thanks :)
[12:04] <Central> hjmills: ok kinda looks like what I want. but this howto. how do I do this?
[12:04] <hatredx> LjL, thanks for the input and help btw.
[12:05] <hjmills> Central, I would recommend contacting the author through the forums and ask if it works for feisty
[12:05] <pinkster> which is best dvd ripping and burning software?
[12:05] <tanath> when using alsa i get no audio. any help?
[12:05] <hatredx> dd
[12:05] <Devyll> I have problems installing proftpd. The mirror is not responding. How do I tell apt-get another mirror ?! .. or something like that ? I downloaded the .deb package but when I try to install it it tells me that the dependencies are missing
[12:05] <hjmills> pinkster, I like k9copy even though its for kde
[12:06] <hjmills> pinkster, i think dvd95 does similar
[12:06] <pinkster> let's try it then
[12:06] <pike__> Devyll: you could gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   and remove the country prefix us. for example from the urls
[12:06] <pinkster> thx
[12:06] <owh> Devyll: In System -> Administration -> Software Sources, change the country, then try again.
[12:07] <Devyll> pike__ and owh thanks
[12:07] <Devyll> that was what I needed
[12:07] <tanath> i get no audio with alsa or oss, only esd. some apps, like lastfm use alsa. any help?
[12:07] <ward_> does anybody know a good gamepad to MIDI application?
[12:07] <ward_> i want to use my gamepad as a MIDI controller
[12:07] <super-6-1> hello is there anyone how is good with wireless connections with linux i need help. i cant connect to my accsess point
[12:07] <Central> after reading it, this makes all windows pop on the left screen... But I'd like ubuntu to remember where I last put my windows, and open dialogs in the center of my left screen...
[12:07] <ward_> can' find anything for linux...
[12:07] <Rage> How can I tell the version of ubuntu my system thinks it is?
[12:08] <pike__> Rage: lsb_release i think or just cat /etc/*release
[12:08] <Rage> thanks pike__
[12:08] <owh> Rage: lsb_release -a
[12:08] <mc44> Rage: lsb_release -a
[12:08] <Rage> Thanks all.
[12:08] <owh> After each reboot, I am forced to run sudo ipmasq, otherwise there is no internet traffic. Any suggestions on why this is the case?
[12:08] <pike__> super-6-1: does a wireless device show up?
[12:08] <smallfoot-> hi
[12:09] <super-6-1> yes
[12:09] <smallfoot-> i have 5.04 "hoary hedgehog"
[12:09] <smallfoot-> i got new computer
[12:09] <pike__> super-6-1: what is it called?
[12:09] <smallfoot-> when i put livecd in drive
[12:09] <smallfoot-> it say it cant find CD-ROM
[12:09] <Rage> So, I am version 6.06 and update manager does not say I can upgrade dist how do I upgrade?
[12:09] <super-6-1> netgearwg111v2
[12:09] <smallfoot-> its SATA DVD
[12:09] <mc44> smallfoot-: you want a newer version...
[12:09] <smallfoot-> maybe
[12:09] <owh> smallfoot-: Stop using <Enter> as punctuation.
[12:09] <mage__> eeee
[12:09] <mc44> smallfoot-: yes, get feisty
[12:09] <smallfoot-> oh
[12:09] <smallfoot-> feisty works with SATA DVD ROM?
[12:09] <mc44> smallfoot-: hoary is no longer supported
[12:09] <pike__> super-6-1: eth1 or wlan0 or ath0 or what?
[12:09] <smallfoot-> oh
[12:09] <super-6-1> OOH Y@CHH ... wlan0
[12:09] <mc44> smallfoot-: its far more likely to than hoary
[12:10] <mage__> I cant boot fiesty livecd on my computer with a sata raid card :(
[12:10] <pike__> super-6-1: does 'iwlist wlan0 scan'  return any access points?
[12:10] <Pupeno> Hello.
[12:10] <koshari> mage have you used swithes
[12:10] <super-6-1> idk ill try it hold on
[12:10] <pike__> super-6-1: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up   first
[12:10] <super-6-1> Okey ~
[12:10] <Pupeno> I want to install Ubuntu in my MacBook Pro. Should I turn FileVault off to reziseVolume?
[12:10] <super-6-1> if i go off ill be back
[12:10] <pike__> k
[12:11] <mc44> Pupeno: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro is a good guide
[12:11] <pinkster> how do i close hung up application?
[12:12] <dave-ubu> hi - im trying to migrate a web server from windows to linux - i've installed LAMP but am looking for an open source alternative to CPANEL / PLESK - any suggestions ?
[12:12] <Nemes> pinkster, kill it
[12:12] <pike__> pinkster: pkill appname or killall appname or xkill which gives you a nice skull cursor to click on it with
[12:12] <super-6-1> pike_ok
[12:12] <super-6-1> pike_: ok
[12:12] <pike__> super-6-1: you can scan and see access points?
[12:12] <super-6-1> yes
[12:12] <preem_> dave-ubu: try ISPConfig
[12:13] <pike__> super-6-1: you using wpa or wep or is it open?
[12:13] <super-6-1> pike_: wep
[12:13] <dave-ubu> cheers Preem
[12:13] <neocoretech> @pinkster or use the system monitor to have a graphical process list, to kill the processes from ;)
[12:13] <Pupeno> mc44: according to other sources, bootcamp is not needed if you use refit and that guide tells me to install bootcamp (and doesn't mention anything about wether I should run bootcamp's wizard or not). And it *doesn't* mention FileVault at all.
[12:13] <preem_> no probs, havent tried it myself, but always wanted to, have to get it sometime :)
[12:14] <nblracer> what is the best way so i can have a program start when the computer is turn on (tomCat)?
[12:14] <pike__> super-6-1: i dont know howto do this in gui just console but this is how i typically connect. sudo iwlist wlan0 scan; sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid whatevername key 23423423; sudo dhclient wlan0
[12:14] <pinkster> nice
[12:14] <pinkster> solved
[12:14] <pinkster> thx
[12:14] <super-6-1> pike_: ok
[12:14] <Pelo> nblracer, menu > system > prefs > sessons
[12:14] <hjmills> pinkster, what did you use in the end?
[12:14] <m1r> ok, no luck, laptop dont boot of REMOVABLE , cdrom is broken,think only input is floppy
[12:14] <m1r> what method for install should i use ? :/
[12:15] <Devyll> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of proftpd:
[12:15] <Devyll>  proftpd depends on libpq4 (>= 8.1.4); however:
[12:15] <Devyll>   Package libpq4 is not installed.
[12:15] <stefg> !install  m1r
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install  m1r - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <stefg> !install |  m1r
[12:15] <ubotu> m1r: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[12:15] <Pelo> m1r, can you boot from a usb flash drive ?
[12:15] <m1r> laptop dont accept removable boot
[12:15] <orangey> Hey all!
[12:15] <m1r> i tryed boot puppy but failed
[12:15] <m1r> also put removable cdrom , fail
[12:16] <tanath> can anyone help me add synaptic to the gnome menu?
[12:16] <slicknick> i could use a good, newb user friendly iptables guide if anyone has a recommendation?  im trying to allow ssh connections. any recommendations?
[12:16] <ikonia> tanath: its already there
[12:16] <orangey> I work with a medical journal, and we are talking now about trying to arrange a professional grade text in collaboration with wikipedia. With whom should we be talking on the issue?
[12:16] <tanath> when i try to add it with the 'main menu' app, it won't work
[12:16] <tanath> the box unchecks itself after a moment
[12:16] <Pelo> tanath, it should already be in menu > system > admin > synaptic pakcage manager
[12:16] <ikonia> orangey: wikipedia would be a good start
[12:16] <mc44> orangey: someone from wikipedia?
[12:16] <tanath> it's not
[12:16] <tanath> neither is add/remove apps, and i can't add that one either
[12:16] <pike__> slicknick: well easiest recommendation is firestarter or another gui front end
[12:17] <Gecko> Hey there. I have an issue with the latest kernel update. Normally my sata disc is discovered as /dev/sdc, but with the kernel update, it is discovered as /dev/hde, and I get endless DMA timeouts. Anyone know anything about this?
[12:17] <orangey> ikonia: shoot.. Wrong channel.
[12:17] <Pelo> tanath, main menu occasionaly wonT' update until  x is restarted
[12:17] <orangey> thank you for the catch.
[12:17] <ikonia> tanath: it should already be there uder system --> administration  --> synaptic package manager
[12:17] <stefg> !uuid | Gecko
[12:17] <ubotu> Gecko: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[12:17] <Devyll> can anybody tell me what do I have to install to have libpq4 >= 8.1.4   ??????????????/
[12:17] <tanath> Pelo, i know it should be, but it's not and i cannot add it. when i check the box to add it, it unchecks itself after a moment... o.O
[12:17] <jrib> tanath: check permissions on ~/.local/share/applications/ and its children
[12:17] <Gecko> stefg: the problem is not the uuid, as the partition is discovered all right. The issue is with the endless DMA timeouts
[12:17] <pike__> slicknick: id grab an iptables script from google though to give you an idea. you should be able to find one with comments and ssh is pretty common
[12:17] <m1r> stefg ty i will check
[12:18] <slicknick> word
[12:18] <slicknick> thanks
[12:18] <Pelo> tanath, don'T know what to tell you
[12:18] <m1r> pelo, nothing that can do input on that laptop but floppy
[12:18] <whatthehe> Ok, I have a problem here
[12:18] <slicknick> is it possible to run VMware, and start a guest machine without the GUI?
[12:18] <whatthehe> In firefox, if I open file.html, it works
[12:18] <whatthehe> But if I open file.html?lang=ENG
[12:18] <whatthehe> it doesn't
[12:18] <Pelo> m1r, there is an installer that works through windows,  wbeui or something
[12:19] <tanath> jrib, owner has rw...
[12:19] <whatthehe> It goes 404
[12:19] <stefg> Gecko: read the link and find out why device names move back and forth from scsi-emulation names to ide names
[12:19] <tanath> jrib, (and i'm owner)
[12:19] <Nippa> Where would I go to find documentation on package versions in different versions of ubuntu?
[12:19] <whatthehe> And it opened fine under windows
[12:20] <Pelo> Nippa, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[12:20] <varka> Nippa: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[12:20] <Nippa> Pelo, varka  thanks, that looks like exactly what I'm looking for :)
[12:21] <tanath> in ~/.local/share/applications/ there are several instances of some apps, particularly the two i'm trying to add...
[12:21] <not_a_k> i have 2 gigs of ram. after a few days of running my machine reports I have some 300-400 megs of ram
[12:21] <not_a_k> when i run the free command
[12:21] <stefg> Gecko: hdparm and libata don't go along well
[12:21] <tanath> there's 9 synaptics, and 7 add/removes
[12:21] <not_a_k> any idea why my ram just disappears?
[12:21] <tanath> what's up with that?
[12:21] <ikonia> not_a_k: proably being used for caching
[12:21] <ikonia> not_a_k: its a good thing that ram is being used
[12:21] <nblracer> Pelo that did not work
[12:22] <Bakefy> Can someone here help me diagnose my computer?
[12:22] <tanath> they don't show up in the menu though
[12:22] <jrib> tanath: you checked the permissions on those files as well?
[12:22] <not_a_k> ikonia: it's my total ram that's being reported wrong
[12:22] <nblracer> what is the best way so i can have a program start when the computer is turn on (tomCat)?
[12:22] <not_a_k> ikonia: i'm looking at the right number here
[12:22] <ikonia> not_a_k: what is your total ram being reported as
[12:22] <Pelo> nblracer, make a desktop lancher and put it in  /home/user/.config/autostart
[12:22] <tanath> jrib, yeh, all have normal permissions, except one
[12:22] <not_a_k> Mem:        386872     373800      13072
[12:22] <not_a_k> that's way off the mark
[12:23] <ikonia> thats 3 gig
[12:23] <tanath> jrib, google earth has more restrictive permissions, but owner has rw
[12:23] <nblracer> i need it so, like apache, once the computer is on with out loggin the server is working
[12:23] <Bakefy> I have a problem.  I installed ubuntu, but when grub loads it, the monitor auto turns off.
[12:23] <ikonia> oops
[12:23] <ikonia> 300 emg
[12:23] <miketp> anyone got a treo 700w working as a modem in ubuntu yet?
[12:23] <not_a_k> ikonia: no that's 380 some megs
[12:23] <miketp> with sprint connection manager/wine or wvdial
[12:23] <napsy_> Where does the database of installed packages reside in ubuntu?
[12:23] <not_a_k> on a clean boot it says 2 gigs
[12:23] <ikonia> not_a_k: up - so under "total" you've got 300 meg
[12:23] <pinkster> which is the best photoshop alternative? gimp?
[12:24] <stefg> !apt | napsy_
[12:24] <not_a_k> ikonia: yeah. first column of free
[12:24] <miketp> pinkster: yes
[12:24] <ubotu> napsy_: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:24] <pinkster> good
[12:24] <ikonia> not_a_k: what does top report
[12:24] <not_a_k> ikonia: same thing
[12:24] <napsy_> stefg: i ment physically on the disk
[12:24] <ikonia> not_a_k:  and cat /proc/meminfo  | head
[12:24] <ikonia> the total column
[12:24] <ikonia> memtotal
[12:24] <varka> pinkster: you can have a look at pixel also: http://www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/?page_id=12
[12:25] <KooGooShii> is anyone able to help me, ive go the libdvd files i need (libdvdread3/libdvdcss2) but fiesty doesnt seem to want to mount dvds, or even show up in my LIST OF (df -ha / fdisk -l), i dont know how to make it read or mount
[12:25] <not_a_k> ikonia: same :/
[12:25] <ikonia> not_a_k: how strange.
[12:25] <pinkster> yes i was looking just at it
[12:25] <pinkster> i saw a comment about being a good alternative
[12:25] <pinkster> but most ppl say gimp
[12:25] <tanath> i deleted all the synaptic shortcuts, and when i check the box in the 'main menu' app it makes two of them, then the box unchecks itself, and it still doesn't show in the menu
[12:25] <needbackup> hey!
[12:26] <needbackup> Could anyone around here help me a little but?? Please :S
[12:26] <ikonia> needbackup: whats the question
[12:26] <stefg> !anyone
[12:26] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:26] <varka> pinkster: well, i like it, but if you are familiar with gimp...
[12:26] <NickPresta> @needbackup: As your question. We can only help you if we know your problem.
[12:26] <ikonia> I wonder if he wants a backup......?
[12:26] <CarlFK> I had dapper on my laptop. the 'slider' on my trackpad worked like a mouse wheel. I wiped it and installed feisty, now I get no slider action.  any idea how to get it back?
[12:26] <jrib> tanath: pastebin: find ~/.local ! -user $USER -exec ls -ld '{}' \;
[12:26] <pinkster> i'll have to get familiar with it
[12:27] <pike__> tanath: not sure of best solution but i think you can just rm -fr ~/.gconf; pkill gnome-panel   might work
[12:27] <pinkster> i use photoshop a lot
[12:27] <pinkster> dreamweaver alternative?
[12:27] <tanath> jrib, returned nothing
[12:27] <CarlFK> pinkster: nvu
[12:27] <varka> pinkster: i dont think so, so i chose pixel, as its has an almost compareable gui
[12:27] <tanath> pike_, that sounds a little drastic... won't that kill a lot of my settings?
[12:27] <CarlFK> pinkster: it isnt DW, but it is a nice html editor
[12:27] <thomas_> yo everyone, what must i do to access ubuntu server via putty???
[12:28] <thomas_> from a remote computer?
[12:28] <ikonia> thomas_: enable telnet or ssh
[12:28] <thomas_> i have ssh
[12:28] <winbond> what is super cow?
[12:28] <thomas_> bu it says the connection timed out
[12:28] <CarlFK> thomas_: apt-get install openssh-server
[12:28] <Aerotwelve> Hey everyone, how would I get started making Ubuntu apps? What are most apps in? I'd assume C++, but isn't that Microsoft?
[12:28] <ikonia> thomas_: are you running ssh server on the server
[12:28] <tanath> pike__, that sounds a little drastic... won't that kill a lot of my settings?
[12:28] <CarlFK> Aerotwelve: python
[12:28] <KooGooShii> is anyone able to help me, ive go the libdvd files i need (libdvdread3/libdvdcss2) but fiesty doesnt seem to want to mount dvds, or even show up in my LIST OF (df -ha / fdisk -l), i dont know how to make it read or mount
[12:28] <ikonia> Aerotwelve: that question suggests your not ready to make apps
[12:28] <stefg> thomas_: sudo apt-get install openssh-server, help with putty is in ##windows
[12:28] <pinkster> nvu is good with css?
[12:29] <thomas_> oh
[12:29] <thomas_> ic
[12:29] <Aerotwelve> Well, obviously I'm not ready, I'm just curious at what things are in.
[12:29] <jrib> tanath: weird, if you delete the syanptic*.desktop stuff in ~/.local/share/applications/ it should just return to normal.  Maybe restart your panel as someone just suggested
[12:29] <thomas_> ...
[12:29] <thomas_> i need root
[12:29] <thomas_> ...
[12:29] <CarlFK> pinkster: I think so
[12:29] <ikonia> no
[12:29] <ikonia> you need sudo
[12:29] <thomas_> i mean, i jsut tried something else
[12:29] <thomas_> and i need root
[12:29] <stefg> !root | thomas_
[12:29] <ubotu> thomas_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:29] <thomas_> but i dont have root
[12:29] <ikonia> you don't need root
[12:29] <pike__> tanath: thats my approach when something doesnt work. 1. shoot it 2. light it on fire 3. beat it to death with a hammer
[12:29] <thomas_> like i have teh root user
[12:29] <tanath> jrib, i did delete all the ones that had extras, but when i try to make another one, it makes 'em two at a time
[12:29] <Aerotwelve> Use sudo
[12:29] <thomas_> but eveyrpassword is incorrect
[12:29] <CarlFK> Aerotwelve: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/developerzone/bounties
[12:29] <tanath> pike__, lol
[12:29] <kitche> Aerotwelve: most c++ and C++ is not microsoft it's just c with object oriented programming operating systems tend to be in C
[12:29] <thomas_> is there a default password for root???
[12:29] <jrib> tanath: you shouldn't have to make anything
[12:29] <ikonia> thomas_: you don't need root
[12:29] <miketp> any idea why my treo 700wx would show up in "lsusb" and this disappear?
[12:29] <jrib> !root > thomas_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:30] <tanath> jrib, yet my menu is lacking certain items...
[12:30] <thomas_> ubotu?
[12:30] <jrib> tanath: did you restart gnome-panel after deleting the files?
[12:30] <CarlFK> jrib: no PMs if the user isn't registered, right?
[12:30] <ikonia> thomas_: read the private message you've been sent
[12:30] <tanath> jrib, i think i may have removed them before i upgraded, and now can't seem to get them back
[12:30] <kitche> thomas_: use sudo insead
[12:30] <Trixsey> The ATI drivers in Linux decreased my performance by ~50% compared to the Windows drivers...  Thanks.
[12:31] <nblracer> Pablo i dont think thats what i want, i need to set the Java_home, and start Tomact as soon as posable, when turning on a computer/restarting
[12:31] <lwizardl> if I want to make a iso image of a disc in my cdrom drive what do I type in term
[12:31] <tanath> jrib, gah. now certain tray icons don't show :-/
[12:31] <jrib> tanath: and synaptic is still missing?
[12:31] <pike__> lwizardl: cat /dev/cdrom > file.iso is one way or use dd
[12:32] <cafuego> lwizardl: dd if=/dev/hdX of=./cd.iso bs=512
[12:32] <tanath> jrib, yeah
[12:32] <tanath> jrib, still does the same thing
[12:32] <ikonia> cafuego: I don't trust that technique, as thats not really an iso image, just a block level copy
[12:32] <thomas_> i tired it, but it askkes for root
[12:32] <thomas_> because permison is denied
[12:32] <jrib> tanath: weird, see if it happens with a new user, just to confirm it's a confiugration issue
[12:32] <cafuego> ikonia: Yes, which is an iso.
[12:32] <thomas_> ubotu is another channel?
[12:32] <lwizardl> I've tried "dd if=/dev/cdrom of=cd.iso"
[12:32] <SirBob1701> so how well are mavell nics supported in linux? getting new mobo
[12:33] <ikonia> thomas_: no - it asks for your user password
[12:33] <lwizardl> and it errors
[12:33] <stefg> !root | thomas_
[12:33] <ubotu> thomas_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:33] <stefg> !root | thomas_
[12:33] <lwizardl> says no medium found
[12:33] <kitche> stefg: lag ?
[12:33] <tanath> jrib, oy. another time, i have more pressing concerns to work on first, like this video walkman no one will help me with :-/ thanks for the help so far though
[12:33] <stefg> kitche: no, L.A..R.T :-)
[12:34] <Bakefy> is there a chance that my video card just plain doesnt work?>
[12:34] <NickPresta> Which video card do you have?
[12:35] <lwizardl> well right click worked
[12:35] <Bakefy> nvidia x800
[12:35] <varka> lol
[12:35] <tanath> anyone know how to get a video walkman working in ubuntu?
[12:35] <lando786> hey what is a good binary news reader for ubuntu/
[12:35] <pike__> Bakefy: what is the card?
[12:35] <thomas_> so what exaclt must i type in? sudo thomas apt-get install openssh server?
[12:35] <pike__> Bakefy: nm ;p
[12:36] <ikonia> thoma_no
[12:36] <NickPresta> I thought the X800 was from ATI (to compete with the 6800)
[12:36] <ikonia> thoma sudo $command
[12:36] <tanath> i tried installing the sonicstage software that came with it, but it says i need to restart and log in as admin :-/
[12:36] <KooGooShii> is anyone able to help me, ive go the libdvd files i need (libdvdread3/libdvdcss2) but fiesty doesnt seem to want to mount dvds, or even show up in my LIST OF (df -ha / fdisk -l), i dont know how to make it read or mount
[12:36] <stefg> thomas_: sudo apt-get install openssh-server (as said before)
[12:36] <pike__> lwizardl: pan is the standard if you want features i think
[12:36] <ikonia> thomas_: as the link and message from ubotu told you
[12:36] <thomas_> it says
[12:36] <lando786> are there any binary newsgroup readers for ubuntu that support nzbs/
[12:36] <thomas_> E: could not oepn lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 permission denied)
[12:36] <Bakefy> pike_ I have had linux working on this machine before, but I upgraded to 7.04  and got the 64bit
[12:36] <ikonia> use sudo
[12:37] <ikonia> sudo $command
[12:37] <stefg> thomas_: please stop neing ignorant and consider carefully readinf the answers you get
[12:37] <thomas_> E; unable to lock the administration directory (/Var/lib/dpkd/), are u root?
[12:37] <ikonia> thomas_: can you read what people are typing to you ?
[12:37] <pike__> Bakefy: i have no exp with 64bit but id assume the nvidia drivers would work fine for your card
[12:37] <thomas_> sry , its jsut i spend nowe 6 days to get this to work
[12:37] <ikonia> thomas_: show me the exact command you typed
[12:37] <froyd> hey friends, how do i change ownership of a folder ?
[12:37] <Bakefy> pike_ now when I turn on the machine (after a fresh text based install) it turns off the monitor after grub loads linux
[12:37] <ikonia> thomas_: 6 days !!!! did you not consider reading some docs
[12:37] <simmerz> im looking at upgrading my dapper server to edgy. it is running as a uml guest (that's how i get my hosting). should I do a aptitude upgrade or a dist-upgrade? are there problems with the glibc/gcc upgrade?
[12:37] <thomas_> apt-get install openssh server
[12:37] <froyd> chgrpd ?
[12:38] <ikonia> thomas_: you not using sudo
[12:38] <pike__> Bakefy: have you tried the installer from nvidia.com ?
[12:38] <thomas_> oh!
[12:38] <LjL> froyd: chown
[12:38] <froyd> LjL: thx
[12:38] <LjL> thomas_: and it's "openssh-server"
[12:38] <Lilacor>  Bakefy I used Kubuntu x64 and the drivers worked fine.
[12:38] <knoppix_> gudde morsche
[12:38] <thomas_> oh
[12:38] <thomas_> ic
[12:38] <dxdemetriou> when I try to read a dvd-r it don't auto mount on dvdrom and I must do manually. if I try it on dvdrecorder it says that I must specify the fs but also don't work. I have this problem from Breezy and now I am on Feisty without found what's wrong. I am sure that reads them because it writes them
[12:38] <Lilacor> Bakefy: it took a while to get a it working but it worked.
[12:38] <thomas_> alright, thank you very much. im sry for my ignorance and appologize if i offended anyone
[12:39] <xyverz>  huh.  I jsut found the dockapp bar in kde.  makes my life easier having my dockapps. :-)
[12:39] <dxdemetriou> *the dvd+r are ok
[12:39] <Bakefy> pike_ - Lilaco I can't get anything.  as soon as grub loads linux the monitor turns off
[12:39] <xyverz> never bothered looking before
[12:39] <kitche> dxdemetriou: what is the dvd+r for data or movie?
[12:39] <startswithz_> I need help manually mounting a usb drive in knoppix
[12:39] <Bakefy> pike_ - Lilaco whats my next step?
[12:39] <ikonia> startswithz_: join #knoppix
[12:39] <KooGooShii> is anyone able to help me, ive go the libdvd files i need (libdvdread3/libdvdcss2) but fiesty doesnt seem to want to mount dvds, or even show up in my LIST OF (df -ha / fdisk -l), i dont know how to make it read or mount
[12:39] <dxdemetriou> kitche, for anything is the same thing
[12:39] <startswithz_> ikonia there is no response :(
[12:39] <KooGooShii> possibly same problem as dxdemetriou o_O
[12:39] <ikonia> startswithz_: then wait
[12:39] <ikonia> startswithz_: then wait in #knoppix - this is ubuntu support only
[12:39] <kitche> dxdemetriou: see what your syslog says
[12:40] <dxdemetriou> kitche, I tried the dmesg and says that tries to read out of space
[12:40] <BDBMX> can anyone tell me why i cant use the root account on my new ubuntu install?
[12:40] <varka> Bakefy: what card do you really have? an x800 or an nVidia, as the x800 is ATI
[12:40] <kitche> KooGooShii: movie dvds don't get mounted
[12:40] <not_a_k> dropping in and out of sleep has restored my total ram count
[12:40] <LjL> !root > BDBMX    (BDBMX, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:40] <zcat[1] > !root | BDBMX
[12:40] <ubotu> BDBMX: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:40] <Bakefy> hmmm... just a se
[12:40] <ikonia> BDBMX: because root is an account wit no password
[12:40] <KooGooShii> all dvds dont get mounted
[12:40] <kitche> dxdemetriou: then it's a bad dvd+r or your burning bad ones all the time
[12:40] <ikonia> with
[12:40] <KooGooShii> i can burn blank dvds
[12:40] <KooGooShii> but i cant read any dvds other then those burned in ubuntu
[12:41] <BDBMX> theres no pass on by default?
[12:41] <ikonia> BDBMX: there is no usable password
[12:41] <killaz> hi guys I found a bug in ubuntu wher can I post this bug report.
[12:41] <killaz> where*
[12:41] <smallfoot-> can you boot ubuntu with the CD in a SATA DVD ?
[12:41] <stefg> KooGooShii: look in /etc/fstab if your dvd-ewntry is right
[12:41] <LjL> !bugs > killaz    (killaz, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:41] <ikonia> killaz: launchpad, but please be sure its a bug
[12:41] <kitche> !launchpad | killaz but what kind of bug is that
[12:41] <ubotu> killaz but what kind of bug is that: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[12:41] <ikonia> smallfoot-: depends on your motherboard
[12:41] <james296> for some reason Im unable to add items to the startup manager...
[12:41] <BDBMX> how do you mean no "usable" password?
[12:41] <clayg> I've been on 6mo+ warcraft binge so I've been using xp.  I want to grab ubuntu, a new version but don't want to have alot of Hassles with my laptop.  Last one I used was Dapper, are any released after that as stable?
[12:41] <james296> how can I fix this problem?
[12:41] <smallfoot-> ikonia, not possible on all?
[12:41] <ikonia> BDBMX: it has a password, but not one thats usable
[12:41] <KooGooShii> it doesnt show when i fstab -l
[12:41] <LjL> BDBMX: you can't login as root, it means just that.
[12:41] <jrib> james296: pastebin: find ~/.local ! -user $USER -exec ls -ld '{}' \;
[12:41] <ikonia> smallfoot-: did you read what I said "it depends on your motherboard" - I didn't say it wasn't possible
[12:42] <thomas_> bye
[12:42] <clayg> before i know dapper was "better" than edgy evn when edgy was stable
[12:42] <BDBMX> ??
[12:42] <killaz> this bug makes it impossible to use he nvidia out
[12:42] <thomas_> thannks you vero your help
[12:42] <stefg> KooGooShii: cat /etc/fstab
[12:42] <ikonia> BDBMX: stop asking and read the links you've been sent
[12:42] <smallfoot-> ikonia, my motherboard doesnt have any AHCI option
[12:42] <SirBob1701> so how well are mavell nics supported in linux? getting new mobo
[12:42] <dxdemetriou> kitche, that I said before, I am sure that is ok because it works if I try to mount it manually on dvdrom, and the same disk on dvdrecorder doesn't work but it wrote it. exact what says is: attempt to access beyond the device
[12:42] <LjL> ikonia, BDBMX: it lists a hash that doesn't correspond to any password, i'd rather say
[12:42] <BDBMX> lol
[12:42] <BDBMX> ok
[12:42] <ikonia> LjL: thats a better desciption
[12:42] <james296> huh???
[12:42] <ikonia> smallfoot-: so if your board does'nt support it, how do you expect it to work ?
[12:42] <kitche> killaz: what makes you think this is a buyg exactly though
[12:42] <KooGooShii> only thing that shows up thats not a hdd is this
[12:43] <KooGooShii> cat /etc/fstab
[12:43] <KooGooShii> err
[12:43] <zcat[1] > BDBMX: "do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password"
[12:43] <KooGooShii> /dev/hdb /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
[12:43] <Bakefy> oops
[12:43] <jrib> james296: sorry, you see the stuff after "pastebin:"?  That is a command for you to put in the terminal.  After you do taht, put the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us the url
[12:43] <kitche> dxdemetriou: just means it's reading outside where the disc has data on it
[12:43] <Raziekiel> Every time I try to boot from cd (using both 6.06 and 7.04) I get the Kernal Panic Not syncing IO-APIC + Timer error. I tried using noapic like it said, but that didn't work either. What does this mean?
[12:43] <tiekyl> Is there any applications that can be used to embed a terminal onto the desktop?
[12:43] <stefg> KooGooShii: change that to /dev/scd0
[12:43] <varka> zcat[1] : there is no spoon ^^
[12:43] <kitche> killaz: maybe your xorg.conf is setup wrong it happens a lot of times
[12:43] <killaz> kitche: well this is also found in debian. I searched on it and it reported in debian. It's about a X Int10 module not loaded...
[12:43] <KooGooShii> how do i do that?
[12:44] <dxdemetriou> I have this question a long time before: are there also dvd devices that aren't implemented correct in linux because of close drivers?
[12:44] <stefg> !fstab | KooGooShii
[12:44] <Bakefy> Lilaco, varka, turns out it is an ATI x800
[12:44] <ikonia> dxdemetriou: no
[12:44] <james296> ok I added it
[12:44] <ubotu> KooGooShii: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[12:44] <killaz> kitche: Xorg unable to load xf86ExecX86int10 bug
[12:44] <james296> now what
[12:44] <KooGooShii> ty
[12:44] <KooGooShii> hopefully this works
[12:44] <CarlFK> why does top show 96%us, but the total of all the things running is at most 20% ?
[12:44] <jrib> james296: give us the url
[12:44] <james296> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24148/
[12:45] <ikonia> CarlFK: are you sure its not %90 of the %20 is "user" used
[12:45] <Bakefy> Lilaco, varka, Its been awhile since I built it.  THis is my mothers computer.  Its ASUS i know that.
[12:45] <ikonia> CarlFK: check the columns to make sure
[12:45] <CarlFK> and my system keeps bogging.... load is at .7
[12:45] <DJ-Stone> how can I install openssl0.9.8e on ubuntu server 7
[12:45] <killaz> kitche: I see it's already reported in launchpad.
[12:45] <ikonia> DJ-Stone: use synaptix or apt-get
[12:45] <james296> oh wait a minute
[12:45] <ikonia> synaptics
[12:45] <james296> I screwed up...
[12:45] <james296> I didnt put MY name in it replacing the User part lol
[12:45] <stefg> !info openssh-server | DJ-Stone
[12:45] <ubotu> dj-stone: openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 230 kB, installed size 596 kB
[12:46] <winbond> are the ati drivers getting any better?
[12:46] <dxdemetriou> kitche, I tried it also on same record device on my brother's pc that have windows and it worked. anyway, I'll try to do the same on live cd, and if don't work I'll make a thread for it to tell exactly what I have. thanks
[12:46] <varka> Bakefy: sry, i cant tell you anything useful about ATI
[12:46] <ikonia> noe
[12:46] <DJ-Stone> ya I have that installed
[12:46] <ikonia> winbond: nope
[12:46] <zcat[1] > !info ssh
[12:46] <ubotu> ssh: Secure shell client and server (transitional package). In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[12:46] <ikonia> DJ-Stone: then you have it installed
[12:46] <DJ-Stone> k so I put in synaptics
[12:46] <tux1> hello
[12:46] <DJ-Stone> i do have openssh install
[12:46] <winbond> ikonia, damnit
[12:46] <DJ-Stone> but it's openssh 0.9.8c
[12:46] <DJ-Stone> i want 0.9.8e
[12:46] <Riky> hi guys i have a doubt i've tried to change my resolution to 1280x1024 but when i restart the gdm service it turns back to 1024 x 768 and i know that resoution is correct cause i use it when i had windows on my pc, what i'm doing wrong!?
[12:46] <ikonia> DJ-Stone: no - thats openssl - not openssh
[12:46] <james296> ok nevermind, its the same thing
[12:46] <DJ-Stone> sry..
[12:46] <jrib> james296: try to prefix what you say with my name or I will miss it
[12:46] <DJ-Stone> you are right
[12:47] <CarlFK> ikonia: um... it is whatever top's default columns is - I am never too sure what I am looking at, but this is a fairly fresh feisty install, and something is dragging things
[12:47] <DJ-Stone> openssl 0.9.8e
[12:47] <kitche> killaz: seems like it's not an xorg issue but the nvidia driver itself
[12:47] <ikonia> DJ-Stone: openssl 9.8e is not pakage for ubuntu
[12:47] <james296> how do I do that?
[12:47] <DJ-Stone> says under snapshot it is.
[12:47] <Bakefy> Surely ATI works in Linux
[12:47] <ikonia> DJ-Stone: show me the url
[12:47] <killaz> kitche: oh what makes you think that?
[12:47] <tiekyl> is there any way to embed a terminal onto your desktop?
[12:47] <DJ-Stone> sec
[12:47] <kitche> killaz: debian closed their bug stating it's a driver issue
[12:47] <killaz> kitche: that means an older driver should work...
[12:47] <varka> Riky: please paste your /ect/X11/xorg.conf here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:47] <not_a_k> what's the deal with this new "generic kernel" concept? is this explained somewhere? do i not need hardware specific kernels?
[12:47] <jrib> james296: you just write "jrib" at the beginning of what you say :)  run this command to fix your problem: sudo chown -R $USER: ~/.local
[12:48] <DJ-Stone> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[12:48] <stefg> !info tilda | tiekyl
[12:48] <ubotu> tiekyl: tilda: Linux terminal which behaves like terminals in shooter games. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.09.4-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 180 kB
[12:48] <DJ-Stone> says that in snapshot they ahve openssl 0.9.8e
[12:48] <ikonia> DJ-Stone: what version of ubuntu are you usng
[12:48] <DJ-Stone> how to access snapshot release?
[12:48] <kitche> not_a_k: generic picks for you
[12:48] <DJ-Stone> in sources.list
[12:48] <DJ-Stone> ubuntu newest 7.10
[12:48] <ikonia> DJ-Stone: you don't want to be playing with the development snapshots
[12:48] <DJ-Stone> er 04
[12:48] <kitche> killaz: what xserver are you on?
[12:48] <Riky> ok give me a sex
[12:48] <DJ-Stone> actually
[12:48] <Riky> sec
[12:48] <james296> so what was wrong?
[12:48] <DJ-Stone> i am developer
[12:48] <Riky> sorry
[12:48] <stefg> DJ-Stone: you don't want that
[12:48] <ikonia> DJ-Stone: so ?
[12:48] <DJ-Stone> yes I do want to be playign with snapshots
[12:49] <jrib> !enter | DJ-Stone
[12:49] <ubotu> DJ-Stone: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:49] <killaz> kitche: what X server? Xorg
[12:49] <Paradoxx> da
[12:49] <ikonia> DJ-Stone: not if you don't even know how to access it, that suggests you don't understand what and how it will change your system
[12:49] <kitche> killaz: yes that is the Xserver
[12:49] <DJ-Stone> I ask, how do I install openssl0.9.8e in ub 7.04 server
[12:49] <CarlFK> DJ-Stone: the only thing on the 'snapshot' that you 'need' is the installer.  after that, it just uses the same repository mirros
[12:49] <winbond> anyone in here a hometheatre fool?
[12:49] <jrib> james296: well a bunch of your user files are owned by root
[12:49] <DJ-Stone> I know it coudl break my system, i am prepared for that
[12:49] <CarlFK> DJ-Stone:  so if you wan't to break your system, it isn't very hard.. :)
[12:49] <killaz> kitche: I only know Xorg and Xfree86, but ubuntu comes only with xorg right?
[12:50] <james296> ummm, that didnt work though...
[12:50] <DJ-Stone> ya it's never hard to break a linux system
[12:50] <kitche> killaz: yep xorg is modular so xserver=xorg
[12:50] <jrib> james296: do you have any special ownership of files setup in your HOME?
[12:50] <DJ-Stone> So... how do I setup my sources.list to use snapshot instead of 7.0.4
[12:50] <james296> let me check
[12:50] <ikonia> DJ-Stone: read up on gusty
[12:50] <islan> DJ-Stone, but then again, not so hard to fix it sometimes\
[12:50] <killaz> kitche:  ah so you thought I hacked ubuntu and intsalled XFree86 ;-)
[12:50] <tiekyl> ubotu: I'm working on installing it right now, but it sounds like the program I have that opens a terminal with f12 at the top of my screen (yakuake?).  I'm working on figuring out a way to embed it right onto my desktop, almost like conky.
[12:50] <stefg> !gutsy | DJ-Stone
[12:50] <ubotu> DJ-Stone: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[12:50] <DJ-Stone> true either way.
[12:50] <Ahcoeur> HELLO
[12:51] <DJ-Stone> oh the info I need ubotu.. many thanks.
[12:51] <mikeyribbs> can some one help me with frets on fire
[12:51] <killaz> kitche: I'm not so ubuntu geek
[12:51] <mikeyribbs> how do i install it?
[12:51] <varka> DJ-Stone: #ubuntu+1
[12:51] <kitche> killaz: no since nvidia does not work on 1.3 yet it seems
[12:51] <PreZLaptop> Another 8 months until my next uptime milestone
[12:51] <james296> no
[12:51] <Ahcoeur> somebody knows lex & yacc tools ? Thank you
[12:51] <Bakefy> looks like windows wins again
[12:51] <Administ1atorX> Do you think Canonical will sign a patent deal with Microsoft, like Novell has? I just read on OSNEWS.com that Xandros signed a deal with them as well.
[12:51] <Administ1atorX> Just want your thoughts
[12:51] <DJ-Stone> so if I change fiesty to Gutsy
[12:51] <james296> it still doesnt work...
[12:51] <CarlFK> Ahcoeur: I kinda know about them... whats the Q?
[12:51] <DJ-Stone> .... in sources.
[12:51] <killaz> kitche: so what do you think I should do next? Can I use nv for my tv out?
[12:51] <ikonia> Administ1atorX: thats best in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:52] <jrib> james296: ok, then lets make sure all of your files are owned by your user: sudo chown -R $USER: ~
[12:52] <mikeyribbs> any one?
[12:52] <ikonia> DJ-Stone: read the links
[12:52] <Raziekiel> Every time I try to boot from cd (using both 6.06 and 7.04) I get the Kernal Panic Not syncing IO-APIC + Timer error. I tried using noapic like it said, but that didn't work either. What does this mean?
[12:52] <killaz> or go back to ubuntu 6.10
[12:52] <PreZLaptop> BTW - where should I request a patch be included in the kernel (it is available in the wild)
[12:52] <DJ-Stone> i read them, contain no info about updating to new Gutsy release.
[12:52] <stefg> Raziekiel: that means the kernel doesn't like your machine
[12:52] <killaz> cause I need my tv out... this box is my PVR in spe...
[12:52] <chuck> what is the german ubuntu channel on irc?
[12:52] <ikonia> DJ-Stone: you've not read them
[12:52] <jrib> chuck: #ubuntu-de
[12:53] <james296> nothing happened
[12:53] <ikonia> DJ-Stone: they are too quick to read in 2 minutes
[12:53] <stefg> !de | chuck
[12:53] <ubotu> chuck: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:53] <DJ-Stone> no.....
[12:53] <Raziekiel> stefg: I've installed it before on here, is it something I've changed in my bios? The only thing I've changed is adding a new CPU cooler
[12:53] <DJ-Stone> maybe for someone who reads at slow speeds
[12:53] <CarlFK> Ahcoeur:  you want flex and bison packages
[12:53] <kitche> killaz: seens liek you need nv-tv-out
[12:53] <jrib> james296: restart the session properties (and you still aren't putting my name in your messages -- it makes it hard to follow you)
[12:53] <MugginsM> hrm, python packages in feisty amd64 seem really broken
[12:53] <PreZLaptop> ooh! my next uptime milestone is the highest milestone in the uptimed default config :)
[12:53] <ikonia> DJ-Stone: the link explains all about gusty - and how to update to it
[12:53] <jrib> MugginsM: why?
[12:53] <CarlFK> Ahcoeur: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/devel/flex
[12:53] <ikonia> DJ-Stone: its clear you've not read all that in 2 minutes,
[12:53] <MugginsM> clearsilver is busted, psycopg2 is busted, any others?
[12:53] <KooGooShii> changing to /dev/scd0 didnt do anything
[12:53] <james296> jrib sorry
[12:53] <winbond> i need a atsc card that i want to use with the LMCE , looking for good quality picture
[12:53] <KooGooShii> cause /dev doesnt containt scd0
[12:53] <MugginsM> jrib: python-clearsilver doesn't work at all on feisty/amd64
[12:53] <stefg> KooGooShii: reboot
[12:54] <MugginsM> python-psycopg2 works a bit but then segfaults
[12:54] <KooGooShii> ok
[12:54] <ikonia> PreZLaptop: we don't care about uptime showing off, its for people who don't maintain their boxes
[12:54] <killaz> kitche: but does nv has glx?
[12:54] <MugginsM> (yes, other people have reported fixes)
[12:54] <MugginsM> I'm just worried there are other python package problems too
[12:54] <winbond> can anyone recommend any?
[12:54] <ikonia> winbond: check the hardware compatability list
[12:55] <james296> "jrib" so do I have to log off to restart session properties?
[12:55] <james296> "jrib"so do I have to log off to restart session properties?
[12:55] <jrib> james296: no, just close it and open it again
[12:55] <winbond> ikonia, ty, good idea
[12:55] <james296> close what?
[12:55] <jrib> james296: session properties
[12:55] <james296> the startup manager?
[12:55] <james296> thats what I have been doing
[12:55] <Ahcoeur> CarlFK are u there ?
[12:55] <jrib> james296: ok, but do it now after this last command
[12:55] <killaz> damn why is this tv out such a hell always
[12:56] <CarlFK> Ahcoeur: yup
[12:56] <DJ-Stone> seeing how I found it in a google search in ... less than 2 minutes of reading...  gutsy sources.list ubuntu which lead me to here.. with the simple answer... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-446250.html
[12:56] <DJ-Stone> thank you for the info.. :) it worked out .
[12:56] <james296> nevermind
[12:56] <james296> it works
[12:56] <james296> :d
[12:56] <mc44> DJ-Stone: gutsy is likely to break
[12:56] <killaz> nv, nvidia thing is also a hell...
[12:56] <mc44> a lot
[12:56] <jrib> james296: try not to run gui apps with sudo
[12:56] <ikonia> mc44: don't start him off
[12:56] <PreZLaptop> ikonia, don't maintain their boxes? are you suggesting that its impossible to have a long uptime on a properly maintained box?
[12:56] <ikonia> PreZLaptop: I don't want to discuss it
[12:56] <DJ-Stone> now time to try to break the machine mawhahhah!
[12:57] <PreZLaptop> heh, course you don't.
[12:57] <BecenG> pike_: it didnt work
[12:57] <jrib> DJ-Stone: why don't you just put it in a virtual machine?
[12:57] <Mikeh> I installed a dark theme for GTK, Beryl & Metacity, and now all my default fonts are light grey, hard to see on the few programs websites with white backgrounds & default fonts, any way to change them without changing the theme?
[12:57] <ikonia> PreZLaptop: this is a support channel so its not appropriate
[12:57] <DJ-Stone> that would be to much like easy :p
[12:57] <DJ-Stone> and i am to lazy to finish installing my vmware.. i am at .. disk partion.
[12:57] <ward_> does anybody know a good gamepad to MIDI application?
[12:57] <ward_> i want to use my gamepad as a MIDI controller
[12:57] <ward_> can' find anything for linux...
[12:58] <jrib> DJ-Stone: vmware is installed with a single command
[12:58] <PreZLaptop> ikonia, do I lose my support if my machine has been up over a certain amount of time? because its 'poorly maintained'? ;)
[12:58] <mc44> DJ-Stone: ok then, but please don't use this channel for gutsy support
[12:58] <ikonia> PreZLaptop: I've just explained why I don't feel it appropriate to discuss it
[12:58] <killaz> I will be very glad if Ubuntu tries to deal with the nv,nvidia tv-out hell .....
[12:58] <PreZLaptop> ikonia, I'm needling you man.
[12:59] <ikonia> killaz: its nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:59] <CarlFK> DJ-Stone: check out qemu  - I like it better than vmware.  (but it is only so usefull for testing )
[12:59] <killaz> ikonia: explain....
[01:00] <ikonia> killaz: issues with nvidia/tv out are nothing to do with ubuntu
[01:00] <tanath> can anyone help me get this video walkman working?
[01:00] <PreZLaptop> ikonia, however you *DID* ignore my REAL question - ie. who to talk to/email/etc. about a kernel patch being put into the ubuntu kernel build.
[01:00] <CarlFK> tanath: probably not.  best to post about that on the forums
[01:01] <pike__> tanath: i dont know what a video walkman is..what are you trying to do with it? transfer files?
[01:01] <ikonia> PreZLaptop: what sort of patch ?
[01:01] <ikonia> PreZLaptop: I missed the question on a patch
[01:01] <tanath> pike__, ever hear of a walkman?? the newest ones do video as well
[01:01] <tanath> pike__, yes
[01:01] <PreZLaptop> ikonia, a patch that will enable the sierra wireless cards (common in laptops with 3G networking support, common on the better Lenovos) on driver load.
[01:01] <killaz> the bug is not a ubuntu issue, I agree.  I mean I dont need to reconfigure my sound for example. Maybe I'm thinking to easy?!?
[01:02] <ikonia> PreZLaptop: have you written the patch ?
[01:02] <PreZLaptop> the patch is available in the wild, but I tried to compile a kernel with the support - kernel compiled fine, the restricted modules was another matter, some kind of black magic going there
[01:02] <PreZLaptop> ikonia, no, I found it online
[01:02] <killaz> I dont need to configure my monitor to work....
[01:02] <PreZLaptop> on the LKML
[01:02] <tanath> pike__, like a video ipod...
[01:02] <CarlFK> killaz: is TV out = s-video ?
[01:02] <ikonia> PreZLaptop: if you feed it in to the upstream kernel it will get included eventually once its classed as stable
[01:02] <killaz> so why tv-out you need to edit redit, and rere-edit the config....??
[01:02] <PreZLaptop> ikonia, someone already put them upstream into the kernel, which is why its on the LKML
[01:03] <pike__> tanath: yeah if you cant mount it and drop the correctly encoded video..id check forums
[01:03] <CarlFK> killaz: kuz you didn't get it right the first time :)
[01:03] <ikonia> PreZLaptop: sit tight then, its on it way
[01:03] <tanath> pike__, i can transfer files via usb connection, but it doesn't see them. you need to use the sonicstage software
[01:03] <Ahcoeur> CarlFK look your private chat :p
[01:03] <PreZLaptop> ikonia, that doesn't help me now, which is why I was asking if it could be included in the patches unbuntu applies to vanilla kernels
[01:03] <killaz> CarlFK: true :-)
[01:03] <ikonia> PreZLaptop: I doubt ubuntu will accept that sort of patch
[01:03] <lwizardl> hi
[01:03] <pike__> tanath: might consider vmware. its a little drastic but should work for running the app in xp.. or seamless desktop i guess which uses qemu
[01:04] <KooGooShii> hmm, changing to /dev/scd0 didnt work after reboot
[01:04] <martman_> is it possible todo a minimal/console install from a normal cd(like the ones you get in the mail)?
[01:04] <PreZLaptop> I would be content to patch the kernel myself then compile my own, but I've yet to find instructions on how to get the restricted modules to compile properly
[01:04] <ikonia> PreZLaptop: however you could package it yourself for your own personal use, you seem pretty aware of how eveything works
[01:04] <lwizardl> I'm trying to get qemu to work so I could install xp inside 7.04
[01:04] <PreZLaptop> I got the kernel/headers compiled fine, and could boot off that, but the restricted modules would not compile for love or money
[01:04] <KooGooShii> still not mounting dvds, it mounts blank dvds, but doesnt read/mount data/video dvds
[01:04] <ikonia> PreZLaptop: there is a guide on the ubuntu forums
[01:04] <killaz> CarlFK: but I didnt need to get my monitor to work the first time....sorry I'm just frustrated. I mean I tried everything, configured many times to come to know it's just a bug.
[01:04] <CarlFK> lwizardl: /join #qemu :)
[01:04] <cweagans> martman_: do an ubuntu server install
[01:04] <mc44> PreZLaptop: you could try on #ubuntu-kernel for questions about accepting patches, or file a bug
[01:04] <lwizardl> k
[01:04] <CarlFK> killaz: is TV out = s-video ?
[01:04] <PreZLaptop> ikonia, the part about restricted modules was terse at best, just plain wrong at worst.
[01:05] <martman_> cweagans can i do that without downloading a new iso?
[01:05] <PreZLaptop> mc44, 'k - coz there are a lot of lenovo (ie. thinkpad) users about - and being able to use the sierra wireless card is a big win
[01:05] <zero-9376> can someone tell me why i might have an extra wifi0 interface showing up in ifconfig that doesnt actually exist on my system?
[01:05] <PreZLaptop> one less reason to boot to windows, the 3G networking works under linux :)
[01:05] <cweagans> martman_: you could install the base system and remove everything you dont need, but other than that, no
[01:05] <zero-9376> its not in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:05] <killaz> CarlFK: I dont get your question. Ae you asking if I have s-video? ues I have s-video....
[01:06] <killaz> ues = yes*
[01:06] <CarlFK> killaz: is tha tthe TV out you are tyring to get working?
[01:06] <KooGooShii> gah dont remember who was helping me ~_~
[01:06] <killaz> on my MX/MX400 gfx card I have a s-video tv-out yes...
[01:06] <pike__> zero-9376: i use an atheros card and for some reason have same thing.. an ath0 that i use and a wlan0 that if i take down renders the ath0 useless.. never really investigated it
[01:06] <pike__> zero-9376: in feisty that is
[01:07] <stefg> KooGooShii: maybe the device is somthing else (i admit that i took a shortcut and guessed that it will be scd0... ) But i still think that the device name for the optical drive in fstab is the cause.
[01:07] <KooGooShii> ah
[01:07] <CarlFK> killaz: it might help if you didn't call it TV.  s-video is easier than TV.  TV generally implies modulation to a TV channel
[01:07] <PreZLaptop> though I will say it would be nice to be able to compile the restricted modules as easily as I compile the kernel, without having to modify files to change versions/etc.
[01:07] <KooGooShii> so how do i go about narrowing it down?
[01:08] <stefg> KooGooShii: and see if there's a link like /dev/dvd that points wrong
[01:08] <MugginsM> I think the whole point of the restricted modules being restricted is that they don't allow that kind of nice usability :)
[01:08] <KooGooShii> i know my hd(a-d) and sd(a-b) are my hdds, then i see cdrw,cdrom,dvdrw,dvd
[01:08] <xipietotec> is gtk2.4 in feisty?
[01:08] <CarlFK> killaz: i was able to get my nvidia card to treat the vga and s-vid as sepearate monitors, and used TwinView to get the s-vid to work
[01:08] <KooGooShii> dvd links to hdb
[01:09] <KooGooShii> as with dvdrw
[01:09] <killaz> CarlFK: what ubuntu Feisty?
[01:09] <KooGooShii> how can i change that to link to cdrom
[01:09] <KooGooShii> hmm
[01:09] <KooGooShii> cdrom/cdrw both link to hdb too
[01:09] <killaz> CarlFK:  with* Ubuntu Feisty?
[01:09] <KooGooShii> man this is so confusing lol
[01:09] <zero-9376> pike_: yeah im in fiesty too, i have two wireless cards ath0 and wlan0, then there is the extra wifi0 card, just tried disabling it and it killed ath0 card, well looks like there is a reason to keep it around
[01:10] <CarlFK> killaz: i think it was Feisty... but I found some stuff on the web after googeling,
[01:10] <fuu|4fk> yo!
[01:10] <fuu|4fk> :o
[01:10] <Stormx2> How do I kill X and everything that depends on it?
[01:10] <killaz> CarlFK: Are you using nv or nvidia?
[01:11] <CarlFK> killaz: nvidia (i think...)
[01:11] <Mikeh> I installed a dark theme for GTK, Beryl & Metacity, and now all my default fonts are light grey, hard to see on the few programs websites with white backgrounds & default fonts, any way to change them without changing the theme?
[01:11] <NickPresta> @Stormx2: Try Control+Alt+Backspace..
[01:11] <stefg> Stormx2: ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:11] <louis_> or ctrl alt f6
[01:11] <Stormx2> NickPresta: That will start it again
[01:12] <Stormx2> Ctrl + Alt + F6 just switches to tty6
[01:12] <louis_> ah k
[01:12] <killaz> CarlFK: lsmod | grep nvidia
[01:12] <NickPresta> Oh.  I am using Kernel 2.6.21 and it was compiled with iptables support. Anyone have any ideas?
[01:12] <Stormx2> NickPresta: mhmm.
[01:12] <Gothfunc> if canonical offer commercial services for ubuntu support, what happens to their income when they make ubuntu TOO easy to use? ;o
[01:12] <mage__> hey when I switch to like ctrl+alt+F1 through F6, it doesn't change the screen properly
[01:12] <dekos> hi there, i've just installed feisty fawn and there's no voice
[01:13] <dekos> have no idea what's the problem
[01:13] <neverblue2> i want to run gedit on a file I am accessing during my ssh session
[01:13] <mage__> "no voice"
[01:13] <Stormx2> "no voice"?
[01:13] <CarlFK> killaz: im not near that box - it is at home, I am on my laptop at my GFs
[01:13] <macd> evilxhwnd, did you 'sudo insmod iptables'
[01:13] <tanath> dekos, any other sounds?
[01:13] <Gothfunc> and will they take steps to ensure this doesn't happen? :P
[01:13] <slicknick> any idea why this isnt allowing sshd connections? http://pastebin.4programmers.net/2442
[01:13] <macd> Gothfunc, you always have "end users" and they always need support.
[01:13] <m1r> does anyone know what is elf described in this procedure ? http://www.toms.net/rb/tomsrtbt.FAQ
[01:14] <stefg> evilxhwnd: i'm pretty sure yor selfcompiled kernel is misconfigured (and doubt that it will be troubleshooted in here)
[01:14] <Gothfunc> macd:  maybe you would need LESS the better the software is
[01:14] <Gothfunc> macd: i'm mostly joking anyway
[01:14] <mage__> heh
[01:14] <m1r> i need it for floppy installation process
[01:14] <evilxhwnd> macd, insmod says "insmod: can't read 'ip_tables': No such file or directory" but modprobe works and when i do modprobe ip_tables -l i get /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.ko
[01:14] <Nutubuntu> Hi all. Looking to upgrade from Dapper to Feisty, starting with a new hard disk, but ending with my current /home from my old HD copied over. Later I hope to add a second HD as a RAID 1 mirror; for that I think I'll need LVM. Sanity check?
[01:14] <dekos> tanath, what do you mean by "other sounds"? i can open every songs or movies with my player but i don't hear anything
[01:15] <tanath> dekos, that's what i meant. you don't get any sound at all, right?
[01:15] <dekos> tanath, yes
[01:15] <tanath> dekos, did you check the volume on your speakers, and the volume control in ubuntu?
[01:15] <Despero> hey all, quick question. Is it alright to install Ubuntu on a hard drive that is currently formatted as NTFS with WinXP installed/
[01:15] <Despero> ?
[01:15] <Stormx2> So, any ideas on killing X totally?
[01:15] <evilxhwnd> so the module exists and loads. yet i still get that error.
[01:16] <stefg> !raid | Nutubuntu
[01:16] <ubotu> Nutubuntu: Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:16] <m1r> yes despero
[01:16] <macd> evilxhwnd, and does it load, or did you not paste everything? assuming ip_tables module loads, ip_tables should work
[01:16] <Nutubuntu> t/y stefg :)
[01:16] <mage__> Gothfunc: some people have trouble grasping that all ball joint valves work in such a way that if you move the handle inline with the pipe, its all the way on
[01:16] <kitche> m1r: that is a very old howto
[01:16] <tony> hi.. can anyone tell me how to multi-task with an app that won't let the mouse cursor out of its window boundaries (enemy territory).. i
[01:16] <evilxhwnd> wel, there are no errors in dmesg
[01:16] <evilxhwnd> they're *
[01:16] <neverblue2> i want to run gedit on a file I am accessing during my ssh session, how do I do that?
[01:16] <tanath> dekos, go to System > Prefs > Sound, and play around in there. see if you can get any sound from that
[01:16] <m1r> kitche, u know any better option for floppy install ?
[01:16] <macd> evilxhwnd, and you do have a policy named NAT?
[01:16] <kaot> Stormx2: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[01:16] <mage__> Nutubuntu: dont *need* lvm for that
[01:16] <mage__> Nutubuntu: lvm just makes resizing areas like /home easily done, but if you allocate enough space for the OS and put /home on the end, you just expand the /home when necessary
[01:16] <pike__> neverblue2: you on another linux machine?
[01:16] <dekos> tanath, yes i did
[01:16] <kaot> Stormx2: (assuming gnome)
[01:16] <neverblue2> linux all around
[01:16] <Stormx2> kaot: Thanks. Yeah, gnome
[01:17] <evilxhwnd> well, i tried running iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[01:17] <evilxhwnd> and get that error
[01:17] <pike__> neverblue2: ssh -X ipaddress
[01:17] <evilxhwnd> so, maybe i don't have a policy
[01:17] <Gothfunc> mage__: if i knew what you were talking about i'm sure i'd be impressed by the metaphor ;)
[01:17] <dekos> tanath, it doesn't work
[01:17] <macd> evilxhwnd, try sudo insmod iptable_nat
[01:17] <tanath> tony, alt+tab?
[01:17] <pike__> neverblue2: xforwarding is turned on i think in ubuntu's /etc/ssh/sshd_config file
[01:18] <_joe> let's say i selected several packages to be purged via dpkg, but they can't be removed because other packages depend on them, how can i toggle them back from "to be purged" status?
[01:18] <Despero> m1r: I read somewhere that's it's possible but not 100% efficient. did I understand that wrong?
[01:18] <evilxhwnd> macd, insmod: can't read 'iptable_nat': No such file or directory
[01:18] <neverblue2> so I need to have xforwarding enabled on the "connecting to" machine
[01:18] <tanath> dekos, is sound playback set to esd?
[01:18] <tony> tanath, it doesn't work.. the game won't allow any desktop based shortcuts to be used
[01:18] <tony> tanath, there is a red border around the window also
[01:18] <m1r> Despero , i would recomend partition magic , make one empty partition and put ubuntu there
[01:18] <neverblue2> on the machine I am sshing into*
[01:18] <kitche> m1r: only oen UI see is this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies
[01:18] <budershank> mythtv-users
[01:18] <nickrud_> _joe, I'd try apt-get install --reinstall first
[01:18] <neverblue2> is that correct pike_ ?
[01:19] <eln01> can anyone lend a hand config dell 1390 wireless?
[01:19] <macd> evilxhwnd, then its very possible iptables support was not properly compiled into your kernel, or your just missing some modules, try to reconfigure your kernel then rerun make modules.
[01:19] <Gothfunc> *analogy?
[01:19] <m1r> ty kitche
[01:19] <pike__> neverblue2: on the server machine then just connect to is using the -X switch
[01:19] <tanath> tony, any particular reason you need to multitask while running the game?
[01:19] <_joe> nickrud_: aight, will do. thanks :)
[01:19] <kitche> m1r: you can try this also if you wanted http://efod.se/blog/archive/2006/11/29/installing-ubuntu-on-a-machine-with-no-cdrom-drive
[01:19] <tanath> tony, why not just quit when you need to do other things?
[01:19] <tony> well i like to idle on the server i'm administrating and do other things
[01:19] <Nutubuntu> Whoops -- gotta go ... thx all, back later :)
[01:19] <dekos> tanath, it is set to automatic
[01:19] <pike__> neverblue2: but you need an  x server running on client machine
[01:19] <tony> it helps attract players
[01:19] <tanath> tony, if you don't need the gui (X) you can switch to a virtual terminal
[01:19] <neverblue2> hmm
[01:20] <neverblue2> it seems to be a bit complicated
[01:20] <tanath> dekos, try esd
[01:20] <evilxhwnd> macd, alright, ill take another whack at it. i found a guide for gentoo http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Iptables_for_newbies and i have the same stuff enabled with my build. ill try again.
[01:20] <neverblue2> is there a tutorial, or what is it called that I am trying to do?
[01:20] <macd> evilxhwnd, is there any reason your compiling it?
[01:20] <dekos> tanath, i've changed it everywhere to esd but there's no difference
[01:20] <BDBMX> does anyone know why it wouldnt be able to mount a drive that cfdisk reports as being ext3?
[01:20] <tanath> dekos, also, make sure your speakers are plugged in the proper place (like, not the mic spot)
[01:20] <evilxhwnd> macd, what do you mean?
[01:20] <pike__> neverblue2: very easy as long as you are on a desktop environment and not working from just a shell. just open a terminal and type ssh -X whevercomputer -l username
[01:20] <kitche> BDBMX: look at dmesg
[01:20] <macd> evilxhwnd, iptables is enabled by default on ubuntu kernels
[01:21] <webmaren> my widescreen stopped working
[01:21] <neverblue2> pike_, its not really that easy
[01:21] <dekos> tanath, when i was running the ubuntu cd everything worked fine
[01:21] <m1r> kitche, this old laptop dont have lan card or cd rom :/
[01:21] <evilxhwnd> yea, and i used the same config from kernel 2.6.20? that comes with feisty
[01:21] <neverblue2> pike_, is it ssh tunnelling?
[01:21] <tony> k thanks tanath for ur help i'll read up on virtual terminal.. gtg cya
[01:21] <m1r> so my only option is "old" tutorial it seems
[01:21] <kitche> m1r: then you can't do a install from floppy
[01:21] <BDBMX> [ 2905.747608]  VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sdb.
[01:21] <BDBMX> [ 2905.747608]  VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sdb.
[01:21] <BDBMX> [ 2905.747608]  VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sdb.
[01:21] <m1r> :/
[01:21] <BDBMX> sorry for flood
[01:21] <macd> evilxhwnd, Im still confused as to why your compiling a kernel
[01:21] <evilxhwnd> just changed it the processor to match my Athlon64
[01:22] <Despero> what does this mean: Note: most current Linux distributions, including Ubuntu, do not support write-access to NTFS partitions; only read access is supported. Write-access is available through commercial packages or in some experimental open-source packages which may be risky to use. See NTFSReadWrite for more info.
[01:22] <pinkster_> question, i installed amarok and i try to play a mp3 and it says "no mp3 support" and it hungs up. any idea?
[01:22] <macd> Ubuntu ships an amd_64 kernel
[01:22] <tanath> dekos, when you installed, how did you do it?
[01:22] <kitche> BDBMX: it would be /dev/sdb1 probably
[01:22] <BDBMX> ahh
[01:22] <BDBMX> lol sorry
[01:22] <stefg> !ntfs-3g | Despero
[01:22] <ubotu> Despero: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:22] <m1r> will browse some more but this dont seem good
[01:22] <evilxhwnd> macd, yes, but i wanted my own without useless modules. there is a huge difference between ram useage when using a prebuilt kernel and mine.
[01:22] <tanath> dekos, there's a shortcut when running the live version to 'install to disk'. if the live disc worked, you might try that
[01:23] <tanath> dekos, (if you can't get it wokring)
[01:23] <evilxhwnd> i only removed useless hardware drivers
[01:23] <startswithz_> would you guys recommend using the amd64 version of ubuntu or the i386 version on an amd computer?
[01:23] <macd> evilxhwnd, then you can just choose not to load the unused ones, by using blacklisting, but yeah try recompiling, you'll need to configure the entire kernel
[06:44] (noiesmo/#ubuntu) shokar: also after you make changes try reload windows desktop manager ie beryl
[06:44] (steve___/#ubuntu) anyone use kubuntu with thinkpad touch pad and nub?
[06:44] (kkathman/#ubuntu) what is the main gnome configuration tool command ?
[06:44] (shrimants/#ubuntu) ohhhh, srry. rodgo, just format the partition using either your other OS or using a boot disk
[06:44] (RodGo/#ubuntu) its just that i used to login as admininstrator, but then changed my login name
[06:45] (RodGo/#ubuntu) and now i cant login
[06:45] (warbox/#ubuntu) !alsa
[06:45] (ubotu/#ubuntu) If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:45] (noiesmo/#ubuntu) shokar: from the sounds of it its just a setting change if water wobbly is working then beryl is to
[06:45] (PurpZeY/#ubuntu) steve___: If you are having touchpad problem, I'd recommend looking into qsynaptics.
[06:45] <imac1> did somebody have a screen resolution question?
[06:45] (RodGo/#ubuntu) then i tried to rename the /home/administrator dir to my new login name
[06:45] (RodGo/#ubuntu) and i cant enter gnome
[06:45] (shrimants/#ubuntu) imacl, it was resolved
[06:45] <RodGo> when i enter my login and pass i get an error and just cant enter
[06:45] <shokar> noiesmo: would my other desktops show in my buttom tray?
[06:45] <Ahadiel> RodGo: Your home dir doesn't need to be named the same as your username
[06:45] <shokar> like in an icon?
[06:45] <imac1> if so you must edit a file located at "/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:46] <steve___> Purpzey: is that a tool i can run?
[06:46] <mage__> is there any place to see a list of updates? like I just want to see a list of updated packages for fiesty
[06:46] <RodGo> but how i can undo this modification
[06:46] <noiesmo> RodGo: you will need to chown -R username:usename path/directory to reset purmissions for new use
[06:46] <PurpZeY> steve___: Well, before you do that, what is the problem with your touchpad?
[06:46] <RodGo> and then?
[06:46] <RodGo> the dir used to be /home/administrator and the login was administrator
[06:46] <steve___> purpzey: it works, but the speed is coupled to my normal pointer
[06:46] <RodGo> when i changed the username from administrator to rodgo
[06:46] <noiesmo> shokar: to rotate cube try Alt+Ctrl+arrow key
[06:46] <steve___> purpzey: so, it's too fast
[06:47] <PurpZeY> steve___: Normal pointer being a USB mouse or some such?
[06:47] <steve___> the thinkpad keyboard nub
[06:47] <shokar> onlky arrow key that works is the up one, and that doesn't make a cube
[06:47] <shrimants> rodgo, wow that really messed crap up. if nothing else, boot from the live CD, mount the HD, copy your /home partition to external source, and do a clean install of ubuntu
[06:47] <shokar> it turns my current windows into thumbnails
[06:47] <mage__> chown rodgo:rodgo /home/administrator; mv /home/administrator /home/rodgo <-- trying to do that?
[06:48] <nat3> I have old machine, and don't want to upgrade from warty
[06:48] <PurpZeY> steve___: Can you adjust the sensitivity on the nub?
[06:48] <robert98374_> Hello Everyone!
[06:48] <RodGo> ill try
[06:48] <shrimants> no but rodgo cant log in, can he? so how would he run those comands? unless he logs in as root
[06:48] <noiesmo> shokar: I really think your missing some thing in the desktop options of beryl settings manager I'm at work at mo on M$ system so I cannot open me beryl mangager to further help you sorry
[06:48] <RodGo> i can login in a terminal
[06:48] <RodGo> i cant enter gnome
[06:49] <shokar> don't be noiesmo, I really appreciate you for taking the time to try
[06:49] <RodGo> but i tried to do a mv to my home file
[06:49] <noiesmo> RodGo: just use the terminal to run command
[06:49] <RodGo> and couldnt
[06:49] <mage__> ah
[06:49] <shrimants> did u do the chown first?
[06:49] <noiesmo> RodGo: you'll need to use sudo
[06:49] <shokar> i have 1 question which is related, how do i know which desktops I have?
[06:49] <steve___> i just ran qsynaptics, it says the synaptic driver isn't installed
[06:49] <steve___> i have all the relevant packages installed..what more do i need to do?
[06:49] <steve___> helo?
[06:49] <shrimants> yeah do sudo chown, and then sudo mv
[06:49] <RodGo> i did man
[06:50] <Fathefner> ati |Fathefner
[06:50] <robert98374_> Having Conky issues......When i am trying to have it start up right when i log in it will show up for a second but its running in the background because i close it with system moniter
[06:50] <Fathefner> ati | Fathefner
[06:50] <kurtti> still no luck with the cd image burning. just wasted the fourth cd...
[06:50] <shrimants> steve___, u have to enable SHMConfig, i think
[06:50] <imac1> mister_roboto: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24175/
[06:50] <robert98374_> but i start it again manually and it worked fine
[06:50] <noiesmo> RodGo: you need sudo chown -R username:usename /path/to/dir
[06:50] <RodGo> k ill try
[06:50] <Fathefner> how do i get an ati driver
[06:50] <RodGo> ty
[06:50] <imac1> mister_roboto: that is my messages file, hopefully it will assist in figuring out my problem, thx for any help you can provide :)
[06:50] <Fathefner> whats the link
[06:50] <PurpZeY> steve___: Sorry, I don't see you b/c you don't respond with my name. . .So no color. I am reading one sec.
[06:51] <Fathefner> how do i get an ati driver whats the link
[06:51] <shrimants> steve___: $ sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf      scroll down to the part where it lists Synaptic as your touchpad and add Option "SHMConfig" "true"
[06:52] <PurpZeY> shrimants: He decided not to wait for me to explain that
[06:52] <shrimants> ah
[06:52] <shrimants> lol
[06:52] <Nutubuntu> kurtti -  has it ever worked? If you have tried several apps and consistently failed to record, I'm thinking it's hardware
[06:52] <Fathefner> ait|Fathefner
[06:53] <kurtti> nutubuntu, i've tried it with k3b, cdrecord and the gnome cd recorder, but i only get 'blank' cd's out
[06:53] <Fathefner> ATI|Fathefner
[06:53] <imac1> in case anyone would be willing to look at my /etc/var/messages file, I am having trouble reading cd's from my computer so any help would be appreciated
[06:53] <PurpZeY> !ATI
[06:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:53] <imac1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24175/
[06:53] <kurtti> I remember it worked earlier.. But I'm not sure
[06:53] <Nutubuntu> kurtti -  has it ever worked? Is it a new burner? Can you swap it out for a known-working unit?
[06:54] <clutchmm> I just got a new 250gig external usb hdd, do I need to format it, or can I just use it like a flash drive?
[06:54] <kurtti> it's my laptop's burner
[06:54] <kurtti> I guess it worked earlier
[06:54] <imac1> clutchmm: you shouldn't have to format it if you don't want to bother with doing so
[06:54] <n2diy_> clutchmm:  plug it in, what happens?
[06:55] <lekremyelse1> iv got a problem with beryl can someone help me?
[06:55] <clutchmm> n2diy_: my system opens a file browser to it, that's why I was asking
[06:55] <PurpZeY> lekremyelse1: maybe, what's the problem? if not see #beryl
[06:56] <shrimants> clutchmm, its probably in NTFS, i recommend formatting a chunk of it in FAT32
[06:56] <shokar> Hey, does anyone know how to add workspaces even after the picture on the bottom tray was accidently removed?
[06:56] <n2diy_> clutchmm: that it is good, the file system has been found.
[06:56] <spike723> anyone running ubuntu with extended desktop on another display?
[06:56] <imac1> clutchmm: you can also download ntfs-3g
[06:56] <lekremyelse1> when i enable it the top of the window where all the controls are disapear
[06:56] <kurtti> Could it be about the driver?
[06:56] <damageDOne> Dr_willis: Okay all sorted. Everythings working great. Thanks a lot for your help. I have to say it's people like you who make free software the best kind of software to use. Cheers
[06:56] <robert98374_> spike723 what version of Ubuntu are you using/
[06:56] <shrimants> shokar, you can do right click, edit panel, and then add it from there
[06:56] <robert98374_> ?
[06:56] <imac1> clutchmm: ntfs-3g will allow safe read/write access to ntfs drives
[06:56] <spike723> 7.04
[06:57] <n2diy_> clutchmm: the system sees it as another drive.
[06:57] <damageDOne> Also THANKS to everyone else who helped me.
[06:57] <clutchmm> I already have ntfs-3g that's how I mounted my win2k partition :)
[06:57] <shokar> shrimants: you are awsome
[06:57] <PurpZeY> lekremyelse1: I've seen a lot of people with that issue...Go to #beryl or #ubuntu-effects they can help you
[06:57] <clutchmm> n2diy_: yes, it opens as a blank drive that I have to unmount to unplug
[06:57] <lekremyelse1> ok
[06:57] <lekremyelse1> thx
[06:58] <shrimants> shokar, i would be if i could fix my own problems too
[06:58] <shokar> :P
[06:58] <Tom47> damageDOne: have admired yr own persistence
[06:58] <shokar> Wow, my cube still doesn't work, geezus im about to cry
[06:58] <shrimants> to be honest, i've had just about all of these problems before lol
[06:58] <n2diy_> clutchmm: ok, so you can play with it like any other storage device.
[06:58] <imac1> clutchmm: are you able to drag and drop files into the file browser?
[06:58] <kurtti> nutubuntu, any ideas how to test it?
[06:58] <clutchmm> I am planning on moving my VMs to the external drive so I can share them with my other systems
[06:58] <shokar> shrimants: the beauty of a new OS
[06:59] <xjkx> I saw a video on youtube where the desktop was 3d, what i need to do
[06:59] <Nutubuntu> kurtti -  last thought - can you READ from it?
[06:59] <imac1> clutchmm: are you able to drag and drop files into the file browser so far?
[06:59] <robert98374_> does fluxbox work well on Ubuntu?
[06:59] <kgibbs000> when i type hostname -f  it gives the full hostname with domain and all -- when i try to ssh into it from another machine it states host does not exist    any thoughts
[06:59] <kurtti> nutubuntu, yep
[06:59] <clutchmm> imac1: I haven't tried adding anything to it, I wanted to see if I needed to format it first
[06:59] <Nutubuntu> kurtti - and you're sure it's a R/W device?
[06:59] <shrimants> im trying to find a file that has all the devices listed and their "callsign", or however the OS actually uses the devices. i need to set my subwoofer and speakers (built in) as one device
[06:59] <kurtti> yes
[06:59] <imac1> clutchmm: if you can add files to it, you don't need to reformat it
[07:00] <clutchmm> imac1: k just a sec
[07:01] <Tom47> robert98374_: imho its very limited for others they admire its speed ... its all about tradeoffs and the eyes of the heholder ... try it and see
[07:01] <imac1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24175/ can anyone tell me what is wrong with my cd reader drive?
[07:01] <Nutubuntu> kurtti - sorry, but I don't know what else to ask or try. I don't think it's likely that it's the driver, if you can read from the device.
[07:01] <clever> how do i connect to a bluetooth device with hcitool?
[07:01] <vIkSiT> hmm, has anyone here installed phpmyadmin through apt-get?
[07:01] <shokar> anyone lose borders when using the emerald themer?
[07:02] <kurtti> well, have to take this back to the shop then..
[07:02] <ericlsx> OMG, only questions, no answers
[07:02] <clutchmm> imac1: yeah, I can drag and drop, but do my VMs need ext3 and if so how do I check to see if the drive is ntfs or not?
[07:02] <true_man>   ,   ,   .   :
[07:02] <true_man> H :    ,  .
[07:02] <true_man>  :    ,  .
[07:02] <true_man> H  :    ,   .:
[07:02] <true_man>    !
[07:02] <imac1> clutchmm: blkid /dev/drive id
[07:03] <robert98374_> Does fluxbox work well with Ubuntu?
[07:03] <shokar> hey, does anyone know how to fix borderless themes when emerald is used?
[07:03] <imac1> clutchmm: do an "fdisk -l" to determine the "/dev" entry for the usb disk
[07:04] <n2diy_> true_man: what is your native language?
[07:04] <true_man> sorry
[07:04] <shrimants> wow
[07:04] <ericlsx> another chinese?
[07:04] <m1r> seems russian
[07:04] <shrimants> i wish i could speak M$ system characters
[07:04] <m1r> or greek ?
[07:05] <m1r> lol
[07:05] <shrimants> %^&&&^%$#$%^&*&^&()*)$ to you too
[07:05] <true_man> f.. off m1r
[07:05] <true_man> ^))
[07:05] <Tom47> !cn
[07:05] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[07:05] <nalioth> language discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:05] <m1r> ty m8, didnt have that one for whole night killing with wlan ;)
[07:05] <n2diy_> true_man: what is your native language?
[07:05] <imac1> clutchmm: any luck?
[07:05] <Madpilot> true_man, be polite.  I followed the directions as best as I could, but it still says "Invalid IFO for VMGM" and then won't play the DVD.
[07:05] <true_man> herbew ))
[07:06] <elkbuntu> shrimants, behave yourself please
[07:06] <clever> how do i connect to a bluetooth device with hcitool?
[07:06] <n2diy_> nalioth: I'm just trying to point him in the right direction.
[07:06] <adnan_> hi, who can tell me what the whole deal is with BSD that you have to create an admin acct
[07:06] <shrimants> elkbuntu, misunderstanding, i wasnt trying to imply coarse language
[07:06] <kgibbs000> any one know why i can type hostname -f but can ssh into the server
[07:07] <adnan_> before you do anyhting elese
[07:07] <Ahadiel> kgibbs000: I dont' see the problem.
[07:07] <m1r> try IP
[07:07] <imac1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24175/  anyone have experience with cd drive errors?
[07:07] <true_man> advise CAD package for linux, analogue of AUTOCAD.
[07:07] <shrimants> in any case, colossus, go to the ubuntu unofficial guide and follow their DVD instructions
[07:07] <n2diy_> kgibbs000: host name -l,  as small L
[07:07] <Colossus> shrimants: I did. They didn't have anything for this.
[07:07] <kgibbs000> i can see my hostname -f which is hsd1.ca.comcast.net but i cant ssh into the server
[07:07] <clutchmm> imac1: fdisk -l listed one device at /dev/sda1
[07:07] <Ahadiel> true_man: QCad
[07:07] <n2diy_> as/a
[07:07] <Madpilot> adnan_, this isn't a BSD channel... I'm sure there is one on Freenode somewhere..
[07:07] <winternacht> How do I mount an XFS filesystem drive?
[07:07] <Ahadiel> kgibbs000: Get your IP.
[07:08] <adnan_> i know
[07:08] <adnan_> madpilot
[07:08] <true_man> QCad for kid`s )))))
[07:08] <shrimants> colossus, what exactly is the error?
[07:08] <imac1> clutchmm: ok, "blkid /dev/sda1"
[07:08] <adnan_> still thought someone would know
[07:08] <Colossus> (sorry, disconnected)
[07:08] <n2diy_> kgibbs000: host name -l username.
[07:08] <GSquared> Greetings, is there a way to associate a screen resolution/refresh rate range to a session type? short story: mythtv box, I want to be able to set the session that has mythtv running at the resolution of my projector, but leave the normal session at the default for when its hooked up to a monitor
[07:08] <Colossus> shrimants: "libdvdread: Invalid IFO for VMGM (VIDEO_TS.IFO)"
[07:08] <true_man> VaryCad maybe.....
[07:09] <Colossus> shrimants: then it does the same with VIDEO_TS.BUP, says "Can't open VMG info!" and then stops.
[07:09] <clutchmm> imac1: /dev/sda1   *           1       30401   244196001    b  W95 FAT32 is what I got from fdisk -l that's a FAT32 250gig drive right?
[07:10] <shrimants> colossus, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2729411
[07:10] <clutchmm> imac1: my laptop's drive is only 120gigs
[07:10] <imac1> clutchmm: yep, and to double check for sure, do a "df -h" to view the drives sizes
[07:10] <shrimants> did you install those packages?
[07:10] <shrimants> you will need libdvdcss2
[07:10] <shrimants> run sudo aptitude install libdvdcss2
[07:11] <Colossus> shrimants: yes; I did. Maybe it needs a restart? I'm trying that now.
[07:11] <clutchmm> imac1: /dev/sda1 df -h? or just df -h?
[07:11] <imac1> clutchmm: df -h
[07:11] <winternacht> Hello, anyone?
[07:11] <shrimants> colossus, yes, you always need to restart or at least restart X after each change you make
[07:11] <Noldoaran> hello, someone!
[07:11] <imac1> clutchmm: df -h will show the size of all drives on you system
[07:11] <Colossus> shrimants: Ah, okay. Nobody tipped me off to that one. Thanks.
[07:11] <shrimants> haha, no prob
[07:11] <true_man> why in the theme of channel is not a language written by default?? ))
[07:11] <clever> imac1: all currently mounted drives
[07:12] <shokar> hey, can someone tell me if the desktop cube works with the GTK themes or not?
[07:12] <imac1> clever: yeah, that is what I mean :)
[07:12] <clever> also i perfer cat /proc/partitions over fdisk
[07:12] <clever> doesnt need root
[07:12] <imac1> clutchmm: so what does df -h yield?
[07:12] <clever> less chance of a n00b killing his partition table
[07:12] <imac1> clever: yeah?
[07:12] <clutchmm> imac1: /dev/sda1             233G  2.9M  233G   1% /media/IOMEGA_HDD that is the usb drive, it's the only IOmega hardware I own
[07:13] <imac1> clutchmm: then thats your man :)
[07:13] <Colossus> shrimants: it works! Thank you!
[07:13] <winternacht> Does anyone know how to mount XFS?
[07:13] <imac1> clever: ah, because it is just a list of entries in a text file?
[07:13] <shrimants> lol @ sleep
[07:13] <clever> imac1: virtual text file
[07:13] <clutchmm> imac1: sweet, so will my VMs be cool with FAT32?
[07:13] <m1r> slepping is for pu#$%
[07:13] <m1r> ups
[07:13] <clever> imac1: but you can read it from any uid and it cant make changes
[07:13] <Nutubuntu> sleep is for those who cannot tolerate coffee
[07:13] <GSquared> shorter question: how can I setup a xsession file to set the screen resolution to something specific/use a different monitor than the default
[07:14] <m1r> i must report , after all night installing ubuntu to headless laptop (no cdrom,no boot from usb , no lan port), i got it up and runing
[07:14] <shrimants> sleep is for those who dont spend an excess of 5 hours of non-work-related time in front of the computer and go do such silly things as "hang out with friends".
[07:14] <imac1> clutchmm: they should be ;however, I don't know for sure as I don't work at all w/ VM's, I really doubt file type is an issue for it since fat32 can be read and written to by ubuntu by default
[07:14] <shrimants> jk jk
[07:15] <winternacht> anyone... XFS... how do I mount it?
[07:15] <kgibbs000> i fixed all my problems thank everyone for the help and i will cya tomorrow
[07:15] <m1r> cu
[07:15] <shrimants> wintermacht, whats the problem, do you just not know the command or is it giving you an error or what?
[07:16] <shrimants> try this http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/mount.8.html
[07:16] <winternacht> I just dont know the command thanks Ill check that out
[07:16] <shrimants> yup
[07:16] <clutchmm> imac1: well, I'll copy the VM file to the external drive and see if I can access it, if not I'll format a chunk in ext3, what partitioning program would be best for that?
[07:16] <bur[n] er> clutchmm: gparted :)
[07:17] <pwnguin> what controls whether the power off menu shows hibernate / suspend or not?
[07:17] <imac1> clutchmm: "cfdisk" always works nice too, depends if you prefer command line or the gui
[07:17] <clutchmm> bur[n] er: Thanks
[07:17] <imac1> clutchmm: I don't think gparted comes installed on ubuntu's hd installation though
[07:17] <imac1> clutchmm: but cfdisk does
[07:17] <m1r> OMG
[07:17] <shrimants> ok, its been like an hour,  i'll ask again, is there a file that has the devices/hardware list in it? i need to see how my speakers are listed and then edit that file
[07:17] <m1r> i even got wlan working
[07:18] <m1r> tnx to all who helped
[07:18] <bur[n] er> gparted is on the livecd... or available via apt
[07:18] <imac1> shirmants: I think you can use "lspci" to view that
[07:18] <shrimants> imacl, i wanted to edit that file, thats the tricky part
[07:18] <bur[n] er> shrimants: you have usb speakers or something?
[07:18] <clutchmm> imac1: I'm still learning the cli since I have only been with Linux for about a month..... and people think I'm nuts for trying to compile my own kernel for the ps3 :)
[07:18] <pwnguin> lspci isnt a file
[07:18] <shrimants> the problem im having is that the subwoofer and speakers are manipulated different
[07:18] <n2diy_> shrimants: I doubt you'll find your speakers, but you should find your sound card with lshw.
[07:18] <shrimants> everything is built in, its a laptop
[07:19] <winternacht> oh god errors
[07:19] <pwnguin> shrimants: you need to check out alsaconf and alsamixer
[07:19] <shrimants> i have alsamixer
[07:19] <bur[n] er> shrimants: you still won't find "speakers" as n2diy_ pionts out... you'll find your sound card
[07:19] <ramorek> *can anyone help me with the update to fiesty from edgy ?
[07:19] <shrimants> wait
[07:19] <shrimants> i dunno if i do
[07:19] <bur[n] er> !upgrade | ramorek
[07:19] <ubotu> ramorek: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:19] <imac1> clutchmm: ooh neat, so you can run something on it other than "yellowdog"?
[07:19] <winternacht> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc
[07:19] <shrimants> bur[n] er, in device manager it lists my speakers
[07:19] <winternacht> oh god no ;_;
[07:20] <pwnguin> shrimants: are they usb or something?
[07:20] <ramorek> im getting errors when updating
[07:20] <bruno> i had a problem during the upgrade of ubuntu
[07:20] <ramorek> Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] /dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[07:20] <bur[n] er> pwnguin: they're built in to shrimants laptop
[07:20] <shrimants> no pwnguin, built in. 2 speakers and a sub
[07:20] <pwnguin> a laptop with a sub?
[07:20] <pwnguin> brutal
[07:20] <bur[n] er> ramorek: comment out that line in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[07:20] <shrimants> yeah its HUGE its like an inch or something
[07:20] <ramorek> ??
[07:20] <shrimants> lol
[07:20] <ramorek> i delete it ?
[07:21] <Hobbsee> ramorek: yes
[07:21] <shrimants> ramorek, add a # sign before it, dont delete
[07:21] <Hobbsee> ramorek: btw, breezy isnt supported anymore
[07:21] <clutchmm> imac1: Oh yeah!!! I have Feisty on it right now, IBM has released a new compiler that actually uses all 7 SPEs of the ps3's cell processor, all current builds are compiled with GCC which only uses 1 SPE
[07:21] <bur[n] er> ramorek: breezy?!?!?  damn...   alt+f2, type "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and add a "#" before the CDRom line that is referenced, save the file and run "sudo apt-get update" from term again
[07:21] <bruno> A problem occured during the update. This is usually some sort of network problem, please check your network connection and retry.
[07:21] <ramorek> but im on edgy not breezy
[07:21] <chris_> What's a good virtual machine program that isn't VMWare?
[07:21] <shrimants> ramorek, upgrade to feisty and 90% of your errors will fix themselves
[07:22] <bur[n] er> ramorek: you started with breezy?  went to dapper, then edgy?
[07:22] <ramorek> yea
[07:22] <GSquared> shorter question: how can I setup a xsession file to set the screen resolution to something specific/use a different monitor than the default
[07:22] <shrimants> chris_: google?
[07:22] <bruno> can someone help me?
[07:22] <imac1> clutchmm: ooh, nice, so I suppose you are getting some great performance then eh?
[07:22] <chris_> I figured it was easier wasting other people's time who might have first hand experience with the topic.
[07:22] <ramorek> i think all the files stayed behind
[07:22] <bur[n] er> chris_: innotek's virtualbox
[07:22] <chris_> Thanks.
[07:22] <shrimants> Gsquared, theres a xsession reconfigure command that i cant remember, its in ur xorg.conf file, last commented line. run that
[07:22] <ramorek> i wish i knew how to clean this thing up
[07:23] <n2diy_> GSquared: as a seperate user, with different config files?
[07:23] <shrimants> ramorek, define clean
[07:23] <bur[n] er> ramorek: they didn't... just follow my advice about commenting that line
[07:23] <ramorek> ok
[07:23] <ramorek> clean as in i know kind of how to use this thing but i dont feel like i am in control
[07:24] <bur[n] er> ramorek: read docs.ubuntu.com more often :)
[07:24] <ramorek> im hazzy when it comes to knowing how the whole file system sturcture is and such
[07:24] <GSquared> Ideally I want it to be a multi-user session, basically my computer is connected to either a standard monitor or a projecor, I want a default session for the monitor and a special session for when it is connected to the monitor
[07:24] <shrimants> ramorek, in my experience with the last 5 times ive had to reinstall the OS from trying to get complete control, its actually better not being in complete control
[07:24] <bur[n] er> ramorek: i meant help.ubuntu.com rather :)
[07:24] <ramorek> thankx burner
[07:24] <ramorek> shrimants i like to now whats going on
[07:25] <clutchmm> imac1: Well...... not yet, I said I was "trying" to build a new kernel, the compiler was written for FC 5 and I am having trouble installing it on Feisty, also it is in powerpc architecture so I can only install it on my ps3, the only nice thing is ssh, samba, and vnc from my laptop to my ps3, and I am having trouble finding people to give me a hand
[07:25] <ramorek> im just used to the ease of windows.. but ill get the hang of this
[07:25] <n2diy_> GSquared: so create two users, one for the monitor, and one for the special monitor.
[07:25] <shrimants> ramorek, me too, but every time i got ahead of myself, the system got a critical failure. i figure that until i get the entire thing running so smoothly that i know what each and ever file does, im not gonna mess with the whole administrator type thing
[07:26] <protocol1> whats the best program for VPN access in ubuntu?
[07:26] <protocol1> as a client?
[07:26] <bur[n] er> protocol1: network-manager-ovpn :)
[07:26] <pwnguin> clutchmm: have you tried installing on a dead badger first?
[07:26] <GSquared> n2diy_: but how do I describe in the xession file what resolution to set it to?
[07:26] <shrimants> i mean on windows, im under the administrator account, not the one it makes you set up. but in ubuntu its too delicate to have me blundering around the file system not knowing what im doing
[07:26] <GSquared> or wait, is that what shrimants was talking about?
[07:26] <clutchmm> imac1: I thought I had it but when I tried to compile I got a bunch of errors all from the same file that range from files not found to unused variables
[07:26] <Hillview> hm, anyone familiar with the quake2-data package?  I think I'm missing a step :)
[07:26] <imac1> clutchmm: hmmm, yeah there aren't many ubuntu ppc user I don't think, I am running ubuntu ppc right now off an old imac
[07:26] <bur[n] er> protocol1: but i'd also say that depends on an openvpn server that you connect to... a client is only as good as the server it connects to
[07:26] <shrimants> GSquared, say what?
[07:27] <protocol1> I am looking for a client
[07:27] <shrimants> oh right
[07:27] <bruno> i failed to upgrade ubuntu breezy
[07:27] <GSquared> :)
[07:27] <Nutubuntu> ramorek -  if you're "used to the ease of windows" just give it time. I was too; Ubuntu's easier for virtually everything I do now. Just took awhile to get used to the ease of really easy.
[07:27] <Toulouse> hey guys, what version of VNC should i use? (tightVNC, VNC, others...) for linux to linux in my house
[07:27] <ramorek> cool shrimants i feel the same way learn the system then get into admin
[07:27] <clutchmm> pwnguin: what is a dead badger?
[07:27] <bruno> can someone help me?
[07:27] <n2diy_> GSquared: ah ha, now you know what questions to ask. I don't know, I run a plain jane monitor here, GL.
[07:27] <TaJMoX> windows is easy - but its borked
[07:27] <bur[n] er> bruno: download the feisty iso :)
[07:27] <ramorek> will do nutubuntu
[07:27] <GSquared> :) im trouble, trouble I say! never do it the easy way
[07:27] <PurpZeY> bruno: You have to upgrade from breezy to edgy, I believe.
[07:27] <Toulouse> !vnc
[07:27] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[07:27] <ramorek> just not used to the fact i cant run everyhting i need
[07:28] <shrimants> gsquared: go to /etc/X11 and open xorg.conf. theres a command it will tell you you can run. its like dpkg reconfigure something or the other, its the last commented line. run that command
[07:28] <Toulouse> !freennx
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freennx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <TaJMoX> !freenx
[07:28] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[07:28] <Toulouse> which is better?
[07:28] <n2diy_> GSquared: :)
[07:28] <TaJMoX> thanks ubuntu!  i'll check it out!
[07:28] <kurtti> nutubuntu, I just burned a dvd and it worked.
[07:28] <spikeb> ramorek: you might be able to, just a matter of figuring out what does what you need in linux :)
[07:28] <bur[n] er> bruno: you need to go breezy -> dapper -> edgy -> feisty
[07:28] <bruno> yes
[07:28] <TaJMoX> toulouse vnc has been pretty much THE remote desktop for years
[07:28] <clutchmm> imac1: here is my first compilation try, if you or anyone else would like to see it http://paste.f-box.org/181
[07:28] <bur[n] er> bruno: or just download the feisty iso and burn a cd :)
[07:28] <mobutu> actually i would like to know what is the different between VNC REALVNC and TIGHTVNC
[07:28] <Toulouse> yeah
[07:28] <Toulouse> me too
[07:28] <bur[n] er> tightvnc is faster
[07:28] <pwnguin> clutchmm: its similar to a live badger, only dead
[07:29] <Toulouse> can you do file transfers with those???
[07:29] <goban> hi i did sudo apt-get install spe, but i get this: You need to install at least wxPython v<IP_ADDRESS> to run SPE.Get it from http://www.wxpython.org
[07:29] <imac1> kurtti: you had trouble with a dvd burn?
[07:29] <ramorek> bur[n] er i add two ## ?
[07:29] <bur[n] er> tightvnc uses better encoding techniques to give you more speed... no file transfer
[07:29] <shrimants> bur[n] er, cant he just add the feisty repositories to his sources.list and then sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop?
[07:29] <imac1> clutchmm: cool, thx, I shall look at it
[07:29] <clutchmm> pwnguin: ok, so what is a badger? :) other than an animal
[07:29] <kurtti> imac1, actually with cd burn
[07:29] <bur[n] er> ramorek: just one is necessary, but two will work as well
[07:29] <Nutubuntu> kurtti - if dvds burn and cds don't burn ... hardware problem, seems to me.
[07:29] <Toulouse> can any of them do file transfer
[07:29] <Toulouse> ?
[07:29] <bur[n] er> shrimants: nope... not without a lot of pains
[07:29] <Toulouse> the remote viewers
[07:29] <bruno> bur[n] er: ok
[07:29] <ramorek> bur[n] er are all these things in the help doc's ?
[07:29] <winternacht> What ID do I set my disk to in fdisk if I want to make it XFS?
[07:29] <imac1> clutchmm: would it make it easier for you to compile if you had an old imac or something, because if so, you can get them on e-bay for like $50
[07:29] <bur[n] er> ramorek: probably somewhere :)
[07:30] <ramorek> lol
[07:30] <Gruelius> How do i do a network install if i need to use a wireless module?
[07:30] <shrimants> bur[n] er, what if he jsut does a clean install with feisty and then transfers his /home folder?
[07:30] <pwnguin> clutchmm: http://www.strangehorizons.com/2004/20040405/badger.shtml
[07:30] <ramorek> no one has a good blunt guide to ubuntu ?
[07:30] <bur[n] er> ramorek: help.ubuntu.com is a great resource... as are the forums
[07:30] <kurtti> nutubuntu, I'm beginning to think that's the case in here
[07:30] <bur[n] er> shrimants: that's what i'd do :)
[07:30] <ramorek> bur[n] er will do definately
[07:30] <bur[n] er> Gruelius: if it's a centrino, it will just work
[07:30] <TaJMoX> gruelius : use the alternate installer - configure your wireless in the terminal - run the installer
[07:30] <GSquared> shrimants: it looks like this command allows me to reconfigure xorg.conf, but thats the default x11 config, right? how can I create a per-user x11 config?
[07:31] <shrimants> ohhhhhh per user.
[07:31] <n2diy_> ramorek: blunt!!?? ;)  :)  :)
[07:31] <clutchmm> imac1: maybe, I hadn't thought of that, although the ps3 is powerpc64, and I believe the compiler has kind of high system requirements
[07:31] <GSquared> shrimants: or per-global session
[07:31] <ramorek> n2diy_ blunt as in straight out
[07:31] <shrimants> gsquared, i have no experience with multiple users, so im a bad person o ask on that
[07:31] <ramorek> lol
[07:31] <kurtti> Another, thing, I was trying to burn the Feisty image to install it. Now i just burned it to DVD, can I install it from that?
[07:31] <GSquared> no problem
[07:31] <bur[n] er> kurtti: probably... only one wya to find out
[07:31] <pwnguin> there's no reason for the compiler to have large minimmum system requirements
[07:31] <n2diy_> ramorek: ah, i c :)
[07:32] <Nutubuntu> kurtti -  I haven't tried an install from dvd; don't see why it wouldn't work though.
[07:32] <shrimants> i know you can create different login sessions similar to what you would do with Beryl, but i dont know how to get it to load a certain configuration
[07:32] <TaJMoX> remorek : http://www.pcmech.com/article/windows-to-ubuntu-transition-guide/ or http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Windows_to_Linux_Beginners_Startup_Guide_s45308.html
[07:32] <imac1> kurtti: were you having trouble burning dvds?
[07:32] <n2diy_> nick n2diy
[07:32] <imac1> kurtti: if so, how did you resolve this problem?
[07:32] <ramorek> bur[n] er will my beryl still work when i upgrade?
[07:32] <kurtti> imac1, DVD's burn, CD's don't
[07:32] <winternacht> oh man this sucks!
[07:32] <winternacht> I wanna use XFS darnit
[07:32] <winternacht> is XFS just a tyoe 83 in fdisk?
[07:32] <Gruelius> aint a centrino its a rt61 chipsets
[07:32] <GSquared> I know that files here: /usr/share/xsessions/something.desktop are used to create the gnome login screen session choices, I want to somehow add info to that something.desktop file (an xsession file I assume) that will say "when using this sesssion with any user, I want to make my resolution 600x800"
[07:32] <shrimants> winternacht, are the commands not working?
[07:33] <imac1> kurtti: hmm, what program did you use to burn?
[07:33] <pwnguin> winternacht: are you sure?
[07:33] <bur[n] er> ramorek: probably only better... might have to get new drivers, but it's uber-easy in feisty
[07:33] <winternacht> shrimants: I dont think so
[07:33] <ramorek> cool
[07:33] <pwnguin> winternacht: it doesnt like hard power offs at all
[07:33] <kurtti> cdrecord, k3b and many others
[07:33] <Tom47> ramorek begin at System>Help& Support ... its surprising what lies at yr fingertips
[07:33] <ramorek> bur[n] er you think dell will give good support on ubuntu?
[07:33] <winternacht> wikipedia said its cool with hard poweroffs pwnguin
[07:33] <shrimants> winternacht, try running gksudo nautilus
[07:33] <TaJMoX> winternacht : 83 is ext2
[07:33] <pwnguin> ramorek: if you pay for it
[07:33] <shrimants> and then go to the file system, its under /media
[07:33] <bur[n] er> i bought a dell :)
[07:33] <winternacht> ohhh TaJMoX
[07:34] <pwnguin> winternacht: that runs contrary to what my roommate experienced
[07:34] <shrimants> and then right click and mount
[07:34] <imac1> kurtti: could you paste your /etc/fstab file?
[07:34] <bur[n] er> I'm on it right now and it's great and fast :)
[07:34] <PurpZeY> bur[n] er: That takes all the fun away...=)
[07:34] <kurtti> imac1, what for?
[07:34] <shrimants> kurtti, fstab lets you automount
[07:34] <bur[n] er> PurpZeY: it makes the fun start... id on't worry about hardware support... i worry about writing python and php and important things :)
[07:34] <clutchmm> pwnguin: Nice! I'll share that with the Utah channel, they'll love it :)
[07:35] <pwnguin> winternacht: read the wiki more carefully
[07:35] <pwnguin> clutchmm: its an OLD joke
[07:35] <winternacht> ok pwnguin ;_;
[07:35] <kurtti> yeah, but the problem was with burning
[07:35] <imac1> kurtti: well, my pc machine is having just the opposite problem :)
[07:35] <imac1> kurtti: I can burn cd's but not dvd's
[07:35] <n2diy> clutchmm: where are you in UT, my sister lives in SLC.
[07:35] <clutchmm> pwnguin: I like it
[07:35] <shrimants> wintermacht, try gksudo nautilus, then go to /media and right click and mount
[07:35] <kurtti> imac1, let's change the machines
[07:36] <pwnguin> winternacht: my roommate wound up nuking his install in 2003
[07:36] <imac1> kurtti: yeah sure...hehe, but if you post your fstab, maybe we can figure out what is wrong with both of our machines
[07:36] <pwnguin> winternacht: the filesystem was "there" but his files "werent"
[07:36] <Meglo> hey, I installed grub over the MBR and moved the windows partition to the end of the drive (apparently beyond where a partition can be booted?). Windows still boots and grub doesn't even load. Any ideas?
[07:36] <winternacht> pwnguin: Will it kill files that are just being read?
[07:36] <pwnguin> winternacht: full of ^@ characters
[07:36] <bur[n] er> Meglo: set the partition to be "active"
[07:36] <pwnguin> winternacht: it journals meta data, but not the data itself
[07:37] <kurtti> imac1, the cd part in my fstab is  /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[07:37] <shrimants> meglo, boot into windows and use partition magic to re-edit the partition table, if all else fails
[07:37] <winternacht> so... if I am just reading back stuff ill be ok?
[07:37] <pwnguin> winternacht: the solution is to not pull cords willy nilly from your UPS
[07:37] <clutchmm> n2diy: I'm "temporarily" in Eureka which is about an hour south-west of SLC, following my house in Provo getting wiped out by a tornado and me having to sue my insurance company to fix it
[07:37] <bur[n] er> no no no
[07:37] <shrimants> not partition table, just partition
[07:37] <bur[n] er> partition magic is crap!
[07:37] <pwnguin> winternacht: and have a UPS
[07:37] <winternacht> cmon pwnguin
[07:37] <imac1> kurtti: darn, that is the exact same entry that I have for my machine :(
[07:37] <Meglo> Heh, well I was using partition magic to create ext3 and linux swap before installing
[07:37] <bur[n] er> that's the problem :\
[07:37] <Meglo> bur[n] er what doy ou mean by setting partition to active
[07:37] <bur[n] er> partition magic is the worst partitioner out there
[07:38] <ramorek> dude !!
[07:38] <pwnguin> winternacht: well, have fun playing with it, just remember the warning while you do and plan around it
[07:38] <bur[n] er> Meglo: open gnome partition editor via the livecd... right click on the ntfs partition... set active
[07:38] <winternacht> what does ext3 have over XFS?
[07:38] <n2diy> clutchmm: roger that. Bummer about the tornado, and the ins. company, GL!!!
[07:38] <kurtti> imac1, could your problem be on your drive? maybe it's only capable on reading dvd's but not burning
[07:38] <ramorek> i keep crashing when i hit shiftbackspace !!
[07:38] <winternacht> is it fast and stable?
[07:38] <bur[n] er> ramorek: upgrade ;)
[07:38] <ramorek> ARRR
[07:38] <ramorek> lol
[07:38] <shrimants> wow i have work in like 8 hours. must sleep. ta ta, every one
[07:38] <ramorek> i was in the process
[07:38] <bur[n] er> ramorek: or google for it.. it's a known beryl thing with breezy
[07:38] <weltschmerz> is there any program to non-destructively clip and concatenate mp3s?
[07:38] <ramorek> shrimants
[07:38] <imac1> kurtti: I sure hope not as it is a dvd burner and says so on the box :)
[07:38] <ramorek> no sleep
[07:38] <ramorek> lol
[07:38] <n2diy> ramorek:  well, stop doing that
[07:39] <pwnguin> winternacht: full data journalling, and it looks like ext2 when not mounted
[07:39] <Meglo> Well I could try that, thanks.
[07:39] <ramorek> its a mistake
[07:39] <bur[n] er> ramorek: just use metacity till you upgrade ;)
[07:39] <_Shade_> hi there
[07:39] <winternacht> ok i guess I will acquiesce to defeat then
[07:39] <_Shade_> how can i connect to a remote desktop on my kubuntu machine using a windows computer?
[07:39] <ramorek> thats another of my nightmares
[07:39] <bur[n] er> _Shade_: get ultravnc client or tightvnc client and type the ip of yoru linux computer
[07:40] <bur[n] er> _Shade_: on your kubuntu machine... run "krfb" and set it up to allow connections with a password
[07:40] <ramorek> i want to vnc into my machine on the same session
[07:40] <_Shade_> bur[n] er: and that's all?
[07:40] <bur[n] er> ramorek: so use vino or x11vnc or krfb
[07:40] <pwnguin> winternacht: if you back up regularly or dont care about your data, it's not a huge problem. esp on laptops.
[07:40] <bur[n] er> _Shade_: that's all... forward port 5900 if you're behind a router and want to access it when away from home
[07:41] <pwnguin> winternacht: but it's designed for data centers where they've got triple redundant power sources
[07:41] <ramorek> bur[n] er do the help docs teach you the cli mode ?
[07:41] <bur[n] er> ramorek: probably... you tell me ;)
[07:41] <pwnguin> winternacht: and hardware that can survive anyways
[07:41] <clutchmm> n2diy: Thanks, I HATE Eureka, it has a pop. of 600
[07:41] <winternacht> oh god i have new problems
[07:41] <ramorek> its help.ubuntu.com right ?
[07:41] <goban> hi i did sudo apt-get install spe, but i get this: You need to install at least wxPython v<IP_ADDRESS> to run SPE.Get it from http://www.wxpython.org
[07:41] <bur[n] er> ramorek: yep... or "system -> help"
[07:41] <kurtti> imac1, what about the problem, you get an error or just a useless dvd?
[07:41] <winternacht> I just did mkfs /dev/sdc1 and it just started on its own does that mean it is formatting as ext3?
[07:42] <_Shade_> bur[n] er: i'm not sure how to forward the port though
[07:42] <imac1> kurtti: I get an error and a useless dvd
[07:42] <bur[n] er> _Shade_: login to your router... it's all done there
[07:42] <pwnguin> winternacht: good question..
[07:42] <imac1> kurtti: then again I have only tried to burn with nautalis so far'
[07:42] <bur[n] er> _Shade_: if they're both behind the router... then don't worry about it
[07:42] <kurtti> combo..nice. I get only the useless cd
[07:42] <clutchmm> n2diy: But my ex-stepdad had an extra house here and let my wife, daughter, and I stay here for just utils.
[07:42] <winternacht> hmm ill just df -l then right
[07:43] <ramorek> bur[n] er are you familiar with any virtual pc progs for ubuntu ?
[07:43] <bur[n] er> yep
[07:43] <winternacht> or fdisk -l
[07:43] <n2diy> clutchmm: and no doubt, they are close knit.
[07:43] <n2diy> clutchmm: that's a good deal, if there is work there.
[07:44] <ramorek> well is there any virtualization apps ?
[07:44] <winternacht> how do I know what type of filesystem my disk is ;_;
[07:44] <bur[n] er> ramorek: there are... vmware, virtualbox, xen, qemu, etc.
[07:44] <bur[n] er> winternacht: gparted? or "sudo fdisk -l"
[07:44] <ramorek> none that support 3d yet ?
[07:44] <winternacht> i did but it just says ID 83
[07:44] <winternacht> ;_;
[07:44] <CapriCorn^80> hi
[07:44] <tarelerulz> amarok, does not use my usb sound card ,but totem and mplayer and the rest of my system use it ?
[07:44] <_Shade_> bur[n] er: i'm not sure if i will manage to login to the router - i am not an administrator there
[07:44] <CapriCorn^80> how can i send message from linux to windows
[07:44] <CapriCorn^80> like we use netsend on windows
[07:45] <bur[n] er> ramorek: nope... though if ti's windows games you want... wine might work.... it plays WoW and Warcraft 3 and Starcraft and Call of Duty and more
[07:45] <ramorek> yea im happy with wow on crossover
[07:45] <RoAkSoAx> winternacht, in a terminal write: sudo fdisk -l
[07:45] <bur[n] er> _Shade_: sounds like you're stuck then
[07:45] <winternacht> ok roaksoax but im formatting atm
[07:46] <bur[n] er> 83 == ext3 I think
[07:46] <clutchmm> n2diy: hell yeah, you can't go anywhere in this town (one gas station or the other) without people getting in your business. No work either, luckily I was a union boilermaker and traveled all over the country for work...... until I screwed up my back and had a doctor tell me I had to change jobs, now I have to sue workers compensation of Iowa to get them to pay for it.
[07:47] <xp_prg_> anyone good at pg_hba.conf postgres config?
[07:47] <_Shade_> bur[n] er: should i have the krfb thingy in tray or somewhere? It dissapeared when i applied these new settings
[07:47] <n2diy> clutchmm: Roger that, GL, before we get booted to offtopic.
[07:47] <CapriCorn^80> how can i send message from linux to windows
[07:48] <PurpZeY> CapriCorn^80: A message?
[07:48] <CapriCorn^80> like we use netsend on windows
[07:48] <bur[n] er> _Shade_: it should be running... doesn't need to be int eh tray
[07:48] <bur[n] er> _Shade_: ps ax |grep krfb in a term to verify
[07:48] <clutchmm> n2diy: yeah sorry :)
[07:48] <n2diy> CapriCorn^80: ftp?
[07:48] <n2diy> clutchmm: I don't care!!!
[07:49] <_Shade_> bur[n] er:  5634 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep krfb
[07:49] <startswithz_> I am trying to reinstall ubuntu right now.  I want my main system on sda1 and my home folder on sda3
[07:50] <startswithz_> in the manual partition what do I do exactly? should I assign sda1 to /boot or /
[07:50] <bur[n] er> _Shade_: hence it's running and awaiting a vnc client :)
[07:50] <bur[n] er> _Shade_: er... i lied, it's not
[07:50] <administrator_> ;l
[07:50] <administrator_> jrhj
[07:50] <CapriCorn^80> like we do it on window .. net send <IP_ADDRESS> "Your IP address conflicts with one of our Server. Please contact at 237"
[07:50] <xjkx> Starting Tomcat 5 servlet engine using Java from /usr/lib/jdk: (AND THEN IT DOESNT OPEN)
[07:50] <CapriCorn^80> like we do it on window .. net send <IP_ADDRESS> "hello how are u "
[07:51] <CapriCorn^80> like that
[07:51] <PurpZeY> CapriCorn^80: Is it for intranetwork, or for clients?
[07:51] <administrator_> admistrator
[07:51] <xjkx> tomcat on ubuntu
[07:51] <bur[n] er> CapriCorn^80 : smbclient -M MS-Windows-host-name
[07:52] <xjkx> !tomcat
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tomcat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <winternacht> funk.
[07:52] <xjkx> !tomcat5
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tomcat5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <bur[n] er> CapriCorn^80: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/unix_for_dos_users.html
[07:52] <clutchmm> imac1: does an older imac have good system resources?
[07:52] <kkathman> !tuxracer
[07:52] <ubotu> Tuxracer is now renamed Planet Penguin Racer! The package is planetpenguin-racer in !universe. Enjoy.
[07:52] <_Shade_> bur[n] er: i think i shouldn't close the main window - the output is now different
[07:52] <xjkx> !tomcat5.5
[07:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tomcat5.5 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:52] <bur[n] er> _Shade_: i think you can... i'm 100% sure
[07:53] <kkathman> i would enjoy it if I knew how to start it hehe
[07:53] <bur[n] er> _Shade_: try to vnc from a pc on the same network to your local ip address
[07:53] <imac1> clutchmm: not really great something like 400mhz and 128mb of ram
[07:53] <sk8inrox> Has anyone ogtten Engage to run succesfully on ubuntu feisty?
[07:53] <xjkx> !tomcat6
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tomcat6 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <n2diy> xjkx: the syntatx is <! target | command>
[07:54] <clutchmm> imac1: hmmm... let me check the requirements for the Octopiler and see if that's enough
[07:54] <xjkx> n2diy: this shit doesnt know tomcat
[07:55] <PurpZeY> !ohmy
[07:55] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:55] <bur[n] er> sk8inrox: i haven't got engage to work, but awn works here to show a dock
[07:55] <xjkx> sorry
[07:55] <imac1> clutchmm: k, let me know if it is I'm kinda curious myself :)
[07:55] <n2diy> xjkx: ?? No need to curse.
[07:55] <Small_Mac> how can i uninstall ubuntu/kubuntu without causing windows to be unbootable
[07:55] <sk8inrox> bur[n] er, Yea I'm running AWN now..is there a magnify feature for it?
[07:55] <Small_Mac> i don't have windows cd btw so can't really use it to fix mbr
[07:56] <RoAkSoAx> Small_Mac, when u erase it, you can use tour windows recovery cd to do a : fixmbr on windows DOS
[07:56] <imac1> Small_Mac: format the partition from windows
[07:56] <bur[n] er> sk8inrox: got me, i only played a short time ;)  I'm back to simple gnome panels :)
[07:56] <clutchmm> imac1: nope, here: http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/cellcompiler/requirements
[07:56] <imac1> Small_Mac: I know it can be done, right click my computer and go to manage, I don't remember the steps after that though :)
[07:57] <startswithz_> I cannot get my new install to boot.  I tried to manually partition the harddrive but I think I messed it up.  Can someone help me?
[07:57] <imac1> clutchmm:wow now that is a beefy compiler
[07:58] <sk8inrox> bur[n] er, lol yea, I mainly need a dock that can do magnify and double as a window selector
[07:58] <bur[n] er> sk8inrox: got me... i can tell you the different docks... kiba-dock, awn, engage, and the gdesklet thing (though it doens't show running apps)
[07:58] <imac1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24175/    can anyone tell me what could be wrong with my cd reader drive based on my messages file?
[07:59] <clutchmm> imac1: yeah, but since each of the 7 SPEs of the ps3's cell is clocked between 2.5 and 3 Ghz I get all hot and sweaty just thinking about it :)
[07:59] <n2diy> sk8inrox: Do you know you can magnify with ctrl - +?
[07:59] <m0u5e> Hey, does anyone know how to see how much memory your GPU has?
[07:59] <Nutubuntu> shift change here too - g'night all
[08:00] <imac1> clutchmm: well I guess you can always spend an arm and two legs for a new macintosh....
[08:00] <imac1> :)
[08:00] <clutchmm> imac1:  and the cell BE(as it's known) can borrow resources from other ps3s that are online and boost it that much more without slowing down the systems it borrows from
[08:00] <n2diy> m0u5e: lshw ?
[08:00] <imac1> clutchmm: you mean like a cluster?
[08:01] <DARKGuy> Hey guys, I'm about to "move" my Linux install to another drive (reinstalling Ubuntu in another drive). The !cloning method is a good & reliable one? I'm thinking on copying all my stuff (home folder, etc, var, and such) and using the method explained in !cloning. Will that work? I also have stuff like the nVIDIA drivers and other packages built from source, what will happen to these since they're not packages?
[08:01] <DARKGuy> !cloning
[08:01] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[08:01] <adnan_> hi
[08:01] <m0u5e> n2diy: but if we have an integrated graphics card, won't the ram just be whatever we assigned to it? :X
[08:02] <Peppery> Hi, how do I change a fairly default (apart from a few vhosts) apache2 setup under Ubuntu Server to save ALL logs (by date?) and not gzip any?
[08:02] <m0u5e> n2diy: lol it says 33MHz
[08:02] <sk8inrox> n2diy, With AWN dock?
[08:02] <n2diy> m0u5e: I don't know? What does lshw tell you?
[08:02] <adnan_> hi
[08:03] <m0u5e> n2diy: it says 128MB... but i know that cant be the case
[08:03] <clutchmm> imac1: yup, if someone is online(which the ps3 does automatically) and playing a game using 20% of their cell's power, you can borrow up to 70% of their unused power leaving 10% for sudden software boosts and if they need more you will loose some
[08:03] <adnan_> can you unmount partitions
[08:03] <Flannel> Peppery: that's not apache stuff, that's all logrotate stuff.  Er, unless you mean you want apache logging more than it already does.  That's in apache2.conf
[08:03] <n2diy> m0u5e: Well, that is what Linux sees.
[08:04] <m0u5e> :(
[08:04] <Peppery> Flannel: No, the current logs are fine, I just want to keep all of them for archival purposes.
[08:04] <imac1> clutchman: how do you set that up?
[08:04] <imac1> clutchmm: how do you set that up?
[08:05] <sree> hi all
[08:05] <Peppery> !logrotate
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logrotate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <sree> have a problem with my wifi card
[08:05] <Flannel> Peppery: alright, that's all done via logrotate, /etc/logrotate.d/apache2 (or something close to that)
[08:05] <PurpZeY> sree: What card?
[08:05] <jlei> hi sree
[08:05] <imac1> sree: any idea of the chipset?
[08:07] <sree> Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5005G 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[08:07] <pwnguin> Anyone know how I make the GNOME power off menu show hibernate / suspend options?
[08:07] <jlei> does anyone have a clue why IRC and AIM might be working but not Firefox can't find any servers?
[08:07] <sree> i can see this in lspci
[08:07] <Peppery> Flannel: How would I go about configuring this logrotate?
[08:07] <jlei> I can't ping my router either
[08:07] <Peppery> jlei: Checked your proxy settings?
[08:07] <clutchmm> imac1: you need a program compiled for the cell BE(like a kernel done with Octopiler), there is a program called Folding @ Home that was created by Stanford Univ. for doing research computations. It is fastest on the ps3, but also runs on i386, powerpc, and AMD64 architectures
[08:08] <shwag> looks like Xandros sold out.
[08:08] <jlei> Peppery: no, how do I do that?
[08:08] <imac1> clutchmm:  ooo, sounds interesting
[08:08] <imac1> worth research
[08:08] <n2diy_> jlei: has your router's ip changed?
[08:08] <sree> jlei, imacq: Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5005G 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[08:09] <imac1> well, goodnight to all of this channel :)
[08:09] <sree> the funny thing is i can see this in output of lspci
[08:09] <jlei> n2idy: no, it's the same as it always was
[08:09] <Flannel> Peppery: it's all in that file, uh... `man logrotate` has some info on it including examples.  But I don't think you'd be adding anything, just tweaking and/or removing.
[08:09] <n2diy_> jlei: Hmm???
[08:09] <m1r> how do i change video adapter if i placed hdd with install in other pc ?
[08:09] <sree> but when i configure ath0 in network interfaces i get a invalid devide "ath0" error
[08:10] <sx67> how do I install pidgin?
[08:10] <jlei> n2diy: I have a dynamic IP from my ISP
[08:10] <n2diy_> jlei: can you ping your router?
[08:10] <PurpZeY> sx67: You have to compile it from pidgin.im it's not too hard.
[08:10] <jlei> n2diy: but I don't think the IP changed
[08:10] <jlei> n2diy: no
[08:10] <rescon> someone give me a channel that usually has some pretty good convo going on
[08:10] <Small_Mac> anyeone know how i can uninstall ubuntu in a way that'll allow window to still boot correctly, i dual boot right now
[08:11] <jlei> n2diy: destination host unreachable
[08:11] <sx67> I have the source, now what? PurpZeY
[08:11] <clutchmm> imac1: hence my quest to create a new version of Ubuntu just for the ps3, also since all ps3s are the same once it works on one it will work on all because all the hardware is exactly the same, and there is a growing community online at http://www.psubuntu.com dedicated to Ubuntu on the ps3. I wrote a tutorial there for installing feisty on the ps3
[08:11] <Small_Mac> i don't have window cd so i can't fix mbr using window cd
[08:11] <atrus> wifi-radar successfully connects to my AP, but nm-applet just hangs on "attempting to join <network>". what can i do to get this working?
[08:11] <ramorek> question please
[08:11] <n2diy_> jlei: no, you can't ping your router?
[08:11] <ramorek> while updating the Configuring mdadm came up is this normal ?
[08:11] <jlei> n2diy_: no, can't ping the router
[08:11] <n2diy_> jlei:  you can't ping your router?
[08:11] <Flannel> Small_Mac: You need to remove all of ubuntu except grub (on a tiny partition, like 50mb maybe), then you can still boot windows with grub.
[08:11] <sx67> how do you ping in the terminal?
[08:11] <jlei> n2diy_: sorry, was missing _ from your name :)
[08:12] <jlei> n2diy_: destination host unreachable
[08:12] <Peppery> Flannel: Okay, what would I be doing?
[08:12] <PurpZeY> sx67: The instructions are inside the tar...extract the source to a dir in /home, the run ./configure
[08:12] <n2diy_> jlei:  ok, can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:12] <Small_Mac> Flannel thank god someone responded, i asked in couple other channels and no one active knew =)
[08:12] <ramorek>  -while updating the Configuring mdadm came up is this normal ?
[08:12] <jlei> n2diy_: yeah, localhost works fine
[08:12] <Small_Mac> Flannel how do i remove all of ubuntu except the grub?
[08:13] <n2diy_> jlei:  ok, can you  ping your ethernet card?
[08:13] <Flannel> Peppery: first, I'd read the man page.  Since it seems pretty informative.  Then, uh, backup what's there, and... try stuff.   I'm not experienced with tweaking it, your guesses are as good as mine
[08:13] <jlei> n2diy_: what's the address of my ethernet card?
[08:13] <Mac19> hh
[08:13] <Mac19> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[08:13] <thully> what are people using for iPod support these days?  Everything I've seen is primitive compared to iTunes...
[08:13] <ramorek> anyone ?
[08:13] <Flannel> Small_Mac: where's ubuntu currently?  before or after windows (probably after, I imagine) on the drive?
[08:13] <ramorek> bur[n] er you there ?
[08:14] <Small_Mac> Flannel it's annoyingly before windows, as in if i don't make a choice, it boots ubuntu
[08:14] <n2diy_> jlei:   I don't know!! :)   Run Iifconfig, does that find it?
[08:14] <Flannel> Small_Mac: You know you can change that, right?  That's just in GRUB, not on the drive.
[08:14] <Small_Mac> Flannel window is on C drive, and ubuntu is on some drive with a call letter after C
[08:14] <clutchmm> n2diy: Alright, this is on topic... I fired up Gparted and it found the external drive, but the option to resize the FAT32 partition is greyed out
[08:14] <Small_Mac> Flannel o ok, yeah ubuntu is after
[08:15] <Alysum> hello, my ubuntu is slow and I just noticed that 0% of the 4GB of swap is used, not normal is it ?
[08:15] <ramorek> n2diy_ cna you help me ?
[08:16] <n2diy_> ramorek: maybe, follow along with jlei, and myself, and maybe we can?
[08:16] <RoAkSoAx> Alysum, swap shouldn't be higher than 2GB
[08:16] <ramorek> n2diy_ : is he encountering the same issue ?
[08:16] <Flannel> Small_Mac: well, you'll need a liveCD to be able to delete and shrink the Ubuntu stuff, or you can just erase all of the Ubuntu stuff, and then reinstall GRUB (using the first link in !grub)
[08:16] <jlei> n2diy_:okay, I don't know which of these lines might be my ethernet card. But my inet addr: <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:16] <n2diy_> ramorek: I don't know, what is your issue?
[08:16] <Alysum> ok but thats not the problem here RoAkSoAx!
[08:17] <ramorek>  while updating the Configuring mdadm came up is this normal ?
[08:17] <jlei> n2diy_: i pinged that, and it was okay
[08:17] <startswithz_> can someone help me manually set up the partition table from the install menu for kubuntu 7.04?
[08:17] <jlei> ramorek: AIM and IRC are working for me, but the browser can't find anything
[08:17] <RoAkSoAx> Alysum, if you have a swap partition higher than 2gb, it wont be used so it would be like if you have none
[08:17] <jlei> ramorek: I also can't ping my router