[05:39] <Jordan_U> Diana: If you want to make a LiveCD make sure you use the +mac version (won't help at all with making a liveUSB).
[05:39] <Diana> would ubuntu run nice on virtualbox then?
[05:39] <magn3ts> carnage1, no there most certainly is not
[05:39] <carnage1> yeah a cd would run on virtualbox
[05:40] <Loshki> sexcopter: google says /home/netlogon is samba-related.  I forgot, I use rEFIt.
[05:40] <carnage1> yeah .iso
[05:40] <magn3ts> Jordan_U, any idea where I can read about the difference with the +mac iso? I'm curious.
[05:41] <rob_p> Diana: Have you considered vmware-fusion?  I run both Windows XP Pro and Ubuntu in virtual machines on my Mac with it.  Performance is superb and it works very well, although fusion is not free!
[05:41] <Jordan_U> magn3ts: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37999/what-is-different-about-the-mac-iso-image
[05:41] <vaxinated> Diana, the "Startup Manager" on your MAC does not show the USB drive as a possible boot device?
[05:42] <moses> are you guys running the default windows manager that comes with ubuntu?
[05:42] <Diana> nope vaxinated
[05:42] <Diana> rob_p: you know if virtualbox would work too?
[05:42] <vaxinated> Diana, what kind of MAC (model) do you have>?
[05:42] <Diana> needed a free lightweight solution, that's why I thought liveUSB
[05:42] <Diana> MacBook Air
[05:42] <rob_p> Diana: Actually, I'm in my virtualized Ubuntu right now as I type this! :)
[05:43] <moses> http://thecrumb.com/2008/01/22/ubuntu-nvidia-and-two-monitors/
[05:43] <Jordan_U> Diana: It would.
[05:43] <magn3ts> Jordan_U, fantastic. very informative. thanks
[05:43] <rob_p> Diana: I don't know if virtualbox has a version for mac.
[05:43] <Jordan_U> magn3ts: You're welcome.
[05:43] <Diana> http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.0.8/VirtualBox-4.0.8-71778-OSX.dmg
[05:43] <Diana> seems like so
[05:43] <rob_p> Diana: Looks like it! :)
[05:44] <rob_p> Diana: Give it a go and see.
[05:44] <moses> how come my ubuntu wont pick up my second display?
[05:45] <Diana> I'll go check it out first thing in the morning, gotta run now :) later guys
[05:45] <vaxinated> Diana, check this out: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-macbook-air-3-1-via-usb-flash-drive
[05:45] <schone> I have a ubuntu server running on a box , however I want to save the whole installation as a reusable iso - is this possible easily?
[05:46] <Diana> thanks vax, will read it too
[05:46] <Diana> bbl :)
[05:46] <vaxinated> later D.
[05:47] <bullgard4> Trying to install phpmyadmin using Synaptic, a window "Debconf on T43" appears: "Configuring phpmyadmin. Webserver to reconfigure automatically. Please choose the web server that should be automatically configured to run phpMyAdmin: apache, lighttpd." What button do I need to assert? I do not intend to use apache.
[05:48] <magn3ts> bullgard4, what do you plan to use?
[05:49] <rob_p> bullgard4: If you want phpMyAdmin, you *must* have some webserver software installed and running in order for the pages to be served up.  So choose one.
[05:49] <bullgard4> magn3ts: mysql
[05:49] <magn3ts> bullgard4, I'm not going through this again. You don't know what you're doing and you're rude and uncooperative when I try to help.
[05:50] <magn3ts> bullgard4, you seem to not even understand the difference between a db server/client and an http server.
[05:51] <bullgard4> magn3ts: You call "rude" when I answer your question? Please re-consider your attitude.
[05:51] <magn3ts> bullgard4, no, I was here the other night when you were trying to figure out mysql and you were rude to me after I spent my time trying to help
[05:52] <magn3ts> bullgard4, mysql is not an http server. You will need to be running nginx, apache httpd, lighttpd, etc.
[05:52] <rob_p> bullgard4: I'm not sure you know what phpMyAdmin is!
[05:52] <vaxinated> magn3ts & bullgard4: quit arguing and make up!
[05:52] <magn3ts> I would recommend nginx, but you won't be able to use the default phpmyadmin package sadly.
[05:52] <magn3ts> vaxinated, I'll try again :)
[05:53] <MethedMan> i made some power saving changes to the kernel and now will not even boot into the grub.  [ctr]-[alt]-[F1 - F12] is dead.  any ideas?
[05:53] <vaxinated> MethedMan: Does grub come up?
[05:54] <Jordan_U> MethedMan: What changes did you make exactly? What happens when you boot holding shift?
[05:54] <magn3ts> MethedMan, it won't boot into grub? Grub and Linux are different. CTRL+ALT+f1-f12 woudn't be available during grub anyway.
[05:54] <magn3ts> MethedMan, it's unlikely that kernel changes alone would botch grub.
[05:54] <carnage1> error 22
[05:54] <MethedMan> vaxinated: grub does not come up
[05:55] <magn3ts> carnage1, that's usually due to part changes or messing with /boot
[05:55] <magn3ts> MethedMan, so what does happen when you try to boot the computer?
[05:55] <Loshki> MethedMan: can you boot into a live cd?
[05:56] <magn3ts> MethedMan, you might give it a rest. I know this sounds crazy, as a CS student, I hate even saying it, but I've had times when grub wouldn't load and I had to turn my computer off and wait a few minutes and then it would go back to working.
[05:56] <MethedMan> goes straight to purple screen and then a blank screen
[05:57] <magn3ts> MethedMan, purple? the Ubuntu purple?
[05:57] <MethedMan> yes
[05:57] <magn3ts> If thats the case, grub is working fine.
[05:57] <magn3ts> Because it means Linux/Ubuntu is loading, which is performed by Grub.
[05:57] <MethedMan> holding down shift works, goes to grub, and then blank screen
[05:57] <magn3ts> MethedMan, when you say you changed stuff with the kernel... what do you mean?
[05:57] <schone> I have a ubuntu server running on a box , however I want to save the whole installation as a reusable iso - is this possible easily?
[05:57] <magn3ts> MethedMan, did you change the kernel boot options within grub's configuration?
[05:58] <MethedMan> i did not touch the boot options
[05:58] <magn3ts> What did you  change?
[05:59] <uberjar> is there a way to use itunes podcasts from ubuntu ? or is this another situation where apple is trying to make a walled garden around content ?
[05:59] <uberjar> I just want to listen to a podcast.. all I see are links to itunes store formatted files
[06:01] <MethedMan> magn3ts: got it.
[06:01] <magn3ts> MethedMan, okay, congrats!
[06:01] <alib0b0> i use vlc-plugin for firefox in ubuntu 10.04, but I cannot see the mms video through internet ? is there any way ?
[06:01] <Soupermanito> say for a moment that i unplug my sda and install win xp on my sdb1, then i replug my sda, so grub will load first, and it wont read the mbr of sdb, could i add up the winxp boot line to grub after that?
[06:02] <Jordan_U> Soupermanito: Yes. Just run "sudo update-grub" and a menu entry for XP will be added automatically.
[06:02] <gul> Hi! anybody there?
[06:02] <bolt12> nope
[06:02] <Soupermanito> mmm interesting, that way i wont lose grub
[06:02] <bolt12> :p
[06:03] <rob_p> gul: just a few!
[06:03] <_marx_> 1600 or so
[06:04] <spritle> my external drive is mounting as read only and when i try to change the access rights it wont let me.  any ideas?
[06:04]  * Tobias31 hi
[06:04] <celthunder> spritle: mount -o remount,rw /media/device
[06:04] <celthunder> spritle: also add your user to group storage (gpasswd -a user storage)
[06:05] <_marx_> how do i test my new speakers without waking up my wife; no she's not some balloon figure
[06:05] <celthunder> _marx_: minimize volume in pulse/alsa/oss and put your ear againt them and raise up1 notch at a time until you hear it?
[06:05] <_marx_> k
[06:06] <spritle> real dolls cant hear silly
[06:06]  * _marx_ was thinking headphones
[06:06] <_marx_> but that was wrong
[06:06] <gul> rob_p: I was just checking software............its working
[06:07] <spritle> still mounted read only
[06:08] <rob_p> gul: great! :)  It's nice when things work!
[06:08] <spritle> celthunder: didnt work
[06:08] <celthunder> spritle: ok what's it say when you try and mount it with rw
[06:09] <spritle> celthunder: it mounted it, its just still read only
[06:09] <Tobias31> maby the file system is only to read for the O.S?
[06:09] <celthunder> spritle: is it ntfs? do you have ntfs-3g installed
[06:10] <gul> rob_p: this is the first time i am using xchat on Ubuntu. Previously on Mint and fedora.
[06:10] <spritle> celthunder: no
[06:10] <vanquish349> how do you zoom out on gedit
[06:10] <gul> any tweaks for unity other than compiz?
[06:10] <rob_p> gul: Ah, ok.  I haven't used xchat since Ubuntu 4.04!
[06:10] <celthunder> gul: xchat is pretty much universally the same
[06:10] <spritle> celthunder: by that i mean its not ntfs
[06:10] <celthunder> what type is it
[06:11] <moses> should i update my windows manager
[06:11] <spritle> celthunder: fat32
[06:11] <celthunder> spritle: lol ouch?
[06:11] <vanquish349> how do you zoom out on gedit
[06:11] <celthunder> vanquish349: idk ...look in preferences
[06:11] <spritle> celthunder: i use it with my xbox 360, has to be fat32
[06:11] <vanquish349> it isnt there
[06:11] <celthunder> moses: which wm are you using?
[06:11] <moses> gnome?
[06:11] <moses> idk
[06:11] <celthunder> vanquish349: how did  you zoom in?
[06:12] <moses> the standard one that comes with gnome
[06:12] <moses> i mean ubuntu
[06:12] <celthunder> moses: gnome has it's own wm
[06:12] <celthunder> unity? idk i don't use either to be honest but i'd probably keep them up to date
[06:12] <celthunder> git and svn ftw?
[06:12] <_marx_> gvim
[06:13] <uberjar> is there a free program that can parse an itunes link to let me listen to any free itunes podcast ?
[06:13] <vanquish349> celthunder: i dont know i just opend it to moddifie my pythonbot and it was zoomed in heaps far
[06:13] <celthunder> vanquish349: set the font size smaller
[06:13] <celthunder> vanquish349: i don't think that gedit even has it's own zoom in / out
[06:13] <_marx_> thx celthunder low level bass
[06:13] <moses> celthunder, yeah ill check i bet its unity, but it does seem to suck ass
[06:13] <moses> what would you reccomend?
[06:14] <celthunder> moses: xmonad
[06:14] <gul> celthunder: ya! but i don't use ubuntu much. I usually go for Mandriva, Fedora and Mint. Ubuntu is too ODD and support Mono also...........but this time just for unity
[06:14] <moses> its either this unity or my xserver thats not letting me run dual monitors properly
[06:14] <_marx_> omg xmonad, hum
[06:14] <vanquish349> celthunder: i cant find out how to do that eiter
[06:14] <celthunder> gul: i use arch..just idle and help here so i feel like i contribute
[06:14] <uberjar> I like awesome a lil better than xmonad
[06:14] <mrdeb> does unity use mono
[06:14] <celthunder> mrdeb: not likely
[06:15] <celthunder> anything that uses mono should be thrown in the garbage
[06:15] <celthunder> it's the equivalent of MSVC++ for linux
[06:15] <mrdeb> why
[06:15] <gul> celthunder: I tried Arch a week back but after installation it hanged on 'loading bootloader......."
[06:15] <gul> mrdeb: no
[06:15] <celthunder> gul: lol if you still have it i'll help you fix it
[06:15] <mrdeb> gul: you install it wrong then
[06:15] <gul> mrdeb: I am talking abt other softs like banshee etc.
[06:16] <mrdeb> i purge banshee. it is useless
[06:16] <celthunder> uberjar: eh my configs in awesome kept breaking after update...i got the same xmonad on 3 diff installs and it works every time
[06:16] <howsthat> Hi I am new to this Chat, I was woundering if anyone know is an Asus P8h67-M mother baord will work with Ubuntu 10.10
[06:16] <celthunder> mrdeb: indeed it is
[06:16] <celthunder> howsthat: what's the rest of the hardware
[06:16] <gul> celthunder: mrdeb: actually while installing bootloader it was shoeing two entries for my sdb(external hdd)
[06:16] <celthunder> gul: yeah /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1?
[06:16] <manlymatt83> Hi.  If I messed up files inside my $HOME (dot files), I don't need to re-install ubuntu, right?  I'm the only user account... my plan was to add a new user (myname2), then login as that user to delete my original user (myname), then re-add my original user (myname).  Would that work?  Would it populate the . files?
[06:16] <mrdeb> you install to sda
[06:16] <celthunder> one the formatted partition the others the actual drive
[06:16] <celthunder> and you put it on sda
[06:17] <spritle> celthunder: when i try to chown the drive it says operation is not permitted
[06:17] <celthunder> manlymatt83: cp /etc/skel ~/
[06:17] <howsthat> The Intel H67 Chipset support on board graphics, so there is no graphics card as such, it will be a i5 2500K CPU, 4 Gb RAm 2 x 2 Tb hard disks
[06:17] <gul> no no external hdd is sdb.............. and internal is sda             .... but on boorloader installing it was showing two sdb . one before sda and other after it
[06:17] <manlymatt83> celthundewr: but that doesn't seem to have the default directories like Downloads, Public, etc.
[06:18] <manlymatt83> celthunder* rather: but that doesn't seem to have the default directories like Downloads, Public, etc.
[06:18] <celthunder> manlymatt83: you don't need those you can make them as needed or whatever the **** made them in the first place will
[06:18] <howsthat> Celthunder, I cant find anything by googling it
[06:18] <somethinginteres> hi all, how can I make sure my installed version of mplayer and all codecs are 64 bit versions?
[06:18] <manlymatt83> celthunder: OK, cool. I'm just annoyed because I moved them to different locations, but now things like Virtual Box is freaking out, and when I go to the Zeitgeist menu it says "Downloads" when they aren't actulaly downloads :)
[06:19] <celthunder> chromium/firefox for example will make a Downloads folder when you first dl something
[06:19] <celthunder> howsthat: it should work fine
[06:19] <TeamColtra> How much memory should compiz be using when it first starts?
[06:19] <manlymatt83> celthunder: Do you use the default locations?
[06:19] <celthunder> TeamColtra: depends how many effects you have
[06:19] <howsthat> Celthunder, you dont think there will be issues with the Intel graphics on teh H67 chipset?
[06:19] <gul> TemColtra: depends on configuration.
[06:20] <TeamColtra> celthunder / gul just a base install of Ubuntu
[06:20] <celthunder> howsthat: i have a netbook with intel graphics...works fine the only graphics card i wouldnt TOUCH or go withi n1402194102 miles of with linux is ATI and that's because they FAIL
[06:20] <uberjar> does anyone know if it's possible to listen to (supposidly free) itunes podcasts under linux ? All that software that supposidly lets you do it is now broken
[06:20] <vanquish349> ok fixed it
[06:20] <celthunder> manlymatt83: i do for Downloads...idk why you'd need a public folder that's what you have unison/dropbox sync to servers for
[06:20] <howsthat> Celthunder:  Now thats funny as my experience is that Nvidia are cvery problamitical\
[06:20] <celthunder> uberjar: sure
[06:20] <gul> TeamColtra: u can check it from system-moniter
[06:21] <gul> TeamColtra: but why u want to know it
[06:21] <manlymatt83> celthunder: ok thanks :)
[06:21] <TeamColtra> because its using 65MB of RAM and bouncing between 0-10% of my CPU (on a 4GB RAM / Dual Core system) - gul I am looking at it in the monitor, but i have no baseline to know if its too high
[06:21] <celthunder> howsthat: depends what you're doing to it...ati never updates nvidia at least cares a bit and the oss versions for nvidia are better than ati's
[06:21] <celthunder> TeamColtra: ouch? sounds wrong
[06:21] <uberjar> celthunder: could you tell me the name of a program that can do it ? pretty please
[06:21] <howsthat> Ceilthuder: I have install quite a few copies of Ubuntu on ATI cards and tehy all work well, its Nvidia that are problamitical
[06:21] <gul> TeamColtra: its too much............
[06:22] <gul> TeamColtra: something is wrong!
[06:22] <TeamColtra> celthunder, it looked wrong to me :P thats why I was here to confirm. Is there any good "restart compiz" commands or is it just kill compiz and then restart it?
[06:22] <celthunder> TeamColtra: idon't use compiz
[06:22] <uberjar> celthunder: apple pushed a patch a few days ago that seems to break every program that claims to be able to parse itunes links
[06:22] <TeamColtra> I could log out and log back in or restart x but those are annoying solutions.
[06:23] <gul> TeamColtra / celthundr: nor me............it crashes unity on my system
[06:23] <celthunder> uberjar: idk i don't dl itunes music but theres enough programs out there that do it one has to be updated to owrk
[06:23] <uberjar> celthunder: none are.
[06:23] <gul> celthunder: no no external hdd is sdb.............. and internal is sda             .... but on boorloader installing it was showing two sdb . one before sda and other after it
[06:23] <celthunder> songbird?
[06:23] <uberjar> celthunder: apple pushed a change that obfuscates to a great degree the file format
[06:24] <uberjar> I'll try that one and get back to you
[06:24] <manlymatt83> celthunder: So all of these . files I have (.icons, .local, etc.) will be re-created?
[06:24] <gul> celthunder: songbird is closed for linux
[06:24] <celthunder> gul: yeah /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1? like that
[06:24] <gul> celthunder: yes.
[06:24] <celthunder> gul: like i said i don't use them lol i use mpd and ncmpd
[06:24] <gul> celthunder: and i went for /dev/sdb
[06:24] <uberjar> ahh yeah songbird is a no go
[06:24] <celthunder> gul: that's what it's supposed to do
[06:25] <gul> celthunder: but two entries for /dev/sdb      ........... I think i should go for both of them....
[06:25] <MoMo> using ubuntu 11 -- is there a config for using a tablet laptop?
[06:25] <gul> uberjar: but we have nightingale coming soon
[06:25] <celthunder> uberjar: why do you want itunes music anyway they're all transcodes
[06:26] <celthunder> gul: you're supposed to use /dev/sda for grub
[06:26] <uberjar> celthunder: it's not music.. there's an interview with an author I want to listen to
[06:26] <gul> celthunder: but i installed it on external hdd(sdb) .......... to make it portable
[06:26] <celthunder> gul: yeah...arch isn't the systme you want to do that with
[06:27] <gul> celthunder: even this ubuntu is on external one ........
[06:27] <mysteriousdarren> isn't there a way to break drm? I have some podcasts that are protected :( sometime I hate apple grr!
[06:27] <gul> celthunder: Ok
[06:27] <uberjar> someone needs to sue apple over this they are deceiving their users.  apple claims that itunes lets you distribute podcasts that other people can download for free.. but thats not actually the case
[06:27] <celthunder> gul: arch has  2 flaws...it doesn't include 8 billion drivers / etc (not a flaw as long as you don't port it everywhere it's an advantage) and it doesn't have package signing
[06:27] <gul> THIS is much better than mint or fedora.............Its full and always busy      nice to be here :)
[06:28] <excelsior> I took notes in tomboy, and now I want to send them to someone who probably uses Windows via email. I'm trying to paste them into Yahoo mail, but it won't paste. What's wrong?
[06:28] <gul> celthunder: ok!
[06:28] <celthunder> gul: pm?
[06:28] <celthunder> were talking pretty offtopic here but i want to continue convo
[06:29] <gul> celthunder: no prob..............................
[06:29] <mysteriousdarren> excelsior, use pastebin, or just add as a attachment
[06:29] <celthunder> excelsior: check clippers or whatever its called it adds anything you highlight to clipboard
[06:30] <excelsior> I just figured out a workaround: pasted into gedit, and then copied and pasted from there to yahoo mail. I don't get the problem.
[06:30] <thegoodcushion> guys debian has firmware-realtek package, Ubuntu doesn't.  Any ideas where I can get the realtek drivers?
[06:31] <Loof> grub install is failing /w 11.04 server... not quite sure what's up
[06:31] <Loof> Also chroot to the new target drive fails... it just locks up
[06:31] <celthunder> thegoodcushion: search the debian online package lists and dl the .deb file and install it
[06:31] <celthunder> thegoodcushion: dpkg -i <.deb>
[06:31] <thegoodcushion> ok
[06:31] <excelsior> Anyone have any idea why I was having that problem?
[06:33] <Surlent777> highly techincal question, if anyone can help: How would I permanently set the permissions of a device, i.e. /dev/input/mouse0? Or permanently create a device, such as /dev/vcs0? (Symlinking /dev/vcs to /dev/vcs0 works, but only until reboot)
[06:34] <celthunder> Surlent777: i believe the entire /dev contents is created on boot no?
[06:34] <Surlent777> celthunder: hence my problem
[06:34] <celthunder> Surlent777: try doing a chroot and making it in there and making it non read/writable
[06:34] <celthunder> Surlent777: though then it would literally be non usable
[06:34] <Surlent777> celthunder: I seem to think there was some sort of configuration file or another I remember hearing about but I'm having a hard time finding any information on it
[06:34] <celthunder> Surlent777: can i ask why you need to do this?
[06:35] <Surlent777> celthunder: Well, with the /dev/input, making that readable by non-root users would enable SDL programs to work properly on the command line, and the bit about /dev/vcs0 is for the sake of a program called vcstime, which is hard-coded to look for /dev/vcs0 and which used to work in prior editions of Ubuntu
[06:36] <Surlent777> celthunder: by on the command line I mean in a tty/without X
[06:36] <celthunder> Surlent777: ok well could probably make an init script to auto mod the devices on init 1/3
[06:36] <Surlent777> celthunder: otherwise they work so long as I export SDL_NOMOUSE=1
[06:36] <mrdeb> is 904 still a good distro to use
[06:36] <celthunder> and yeah what else is a command line
[06:37] <Surlent777> celthunder: Some might mistake it for gnome-terminal or something, just being specific
[06:37] <celthunder> mrdeb: if it works for you sure...though it's probably got 2 year old packages
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> Mrdeb: jaunty is dead and there is no support and zero updates for it
[06:38] <Surlent777> mrdeb: 10.04 is wonderfully solid and supported for another year if I remember right, being an LTS release
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: lucid is the earliest supported release and is LTS
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: you do ;-)
[06:39] <thegoodcushion> what's the deal with package firmware-realtek?  Why can't I install the debian version on ubuntu?  My NIC won't work without it
[06:40] <TeamColtra> I tried to disable my ATI graphics driver, but apparently when I disabled it... it doesn't re-enable the Linux driver that it came with, how can I find that?
[06:40] <arooni-mobile> hi folks... running 10.04 LTS.  trying to install an airlink wireless card awlh6075 ... but its not working as a plug & play card... what do i do next?
[06:41] <Surlent777> arooni-mobile: have you tried hooking up the computer via ethernet and using System > Admin > Restricted drivers?
[06:41] <celthunder> arooni-mobile: find the chipset?
[06:41] <arooni-mobile> Surlent777, havent tried that
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> thegoodcushion: mixing debian debs in an ubuntu OS is not advised or supported and will most likely cause you packages issues
[06:42] <Surlent777> arooni-mobile: with most computers I've dealt with, that usually does the trick
[06:42] <thegoodcushion> ActionParsnip: so how do I get my NIC working
[06:42] <arooni-mobile> Surlent777, looks like official drivers are railink?
[06:42] <arooni-mobile> http://www.wikidevi.com/wiki/Airlink_AWLH6075
[06:43] <Surlent777> arooni-mobile: I'm not sure that means much to me at this point, though if my suggestion doesn't work that will be worth noting if you try to hunt down the proper packages.
[06:43] <arooni-mobile> Surlent777, seems to solve it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1527810
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: run: sudo lshw -C network    use the product line to find guides. If it is USB based then run: lsusb    and use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[06:44] <arooni-mobile> is there a way i can share my laptops wifi connection via the desktop?  via a ethernet cable from my laptop => desktop ?
[06:44] <arooni-mobile> that way i can download the drivers & such
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> thegoodcushion: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware    may do it
[06:44] <arooni-mobile> both computers are running 10.04
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> !ics
[06:45] <Surlent777> hmm, I never think to try that
[06:48] <grundo> hey where is a good place to learn more shell scripting stuff?
[06:48] <uabn93> Is anyone here running natty?
[06:48] <grundo> like i know the basics
[06:48] <Surlent777> uabn93: Here and my desktop
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> thegoodcushion: could also extract the deb and put the firmware file in /lib/firmware that way you get the file but don't have the debian package stinking up your packages
[06:48] <Surlent777> grundo: Try looking in Syantpic for abs-guide
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> uabn93: many do
[06:48] <thegoodcushion> ActionParsnip: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware says I'm already at the latest version.  Mind, I am using 10.04
[06:48] <grundo> kk
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> Grundo: i'd ask in #bash
[06:49] <arooni-mobile> how do i find out which railink drver to get
[06:49] <grundo> oh i didnt know XD
[06:49] <uabn93> when  you right click any icon on the top status bar does it look off and out of place? the text is ok but the lines in between the boxes are not where they belong.
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: is the device usb based?
[06:49] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, nope pci
[06:50] <Surlent777> grundo: that package I mentioned is the Advanced Bash Scripting Guide. It's a bit tl;dr perhaps but a wonderful resource
[06:50] <uabn93> this problem happened after i upgraded
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: ok run: lspci   and it will help identify itself
[06:51] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, got it
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> thegoodcushion: extract the deb :)
[06:52] <uabn93> can any of you check if that happens with you on 11.04?
[06:52] <thegoodcushion> well what good's that going to do?
[06:52] <thegoodcushion> ActionParsnip:
[06:53] <arooni-mobile> is there a way to easily share internet connection (from my 10.04 laptop connected over wifi => 10.04 desktop) thats easier than this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: windows needs 3rd party apps to do the hardware ID. Linux is smart and can quiz the hardware and tell what it is :-)
[06:53] <arooni-mobile> i was hoping to share connection over ethernet cable from my laptop => desktop so that i can download drivers
[06:53] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, its pretty amazing considering there is such horrible support from most manufacturers for linux
[06:54] <arooni-mobile> i'm happy there are people who figure out how to make the hardware work
[06:54] <arooni-mobile> in a gui sense
[06:54] <Surlent777> arooni-mobile: why not just skip the middle-man and plug in a cable from the non-connected computer to your router/modem?
[06:54] <arooni-mobile> Surlent777, cuz then i have to bring the pc upstairs
[06:54] <arooni-mobile> i'm being lazy
[06:54] <Surlent777> ah
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> thegoodcushion: you can put the firmware files in /lib/firmware so you get the file but the package info is not in the OS
[06:55] <arooni-mobile> after reading all that crap
[06:55] <arooni-mobile> probably faster to just hook it up to the router
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: realtek make great Linux drivers
[06:56] <bfig> question: getting this error on 11.04 :game/mania_drive.static: error while loading shared libraries: libGLU.so.1: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[06:56] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, but i dont thinjk they are compatible with my card?
[06:56] <arooni-mobile> i think railink are the official ones for this card
[06:56] <bfig> what does that mean? and how can i fix it (already tried reinstalling mesa-gl and didn't work.
[06:56] <Surlent777> bfig: Do you have the 32-bit compatability libraries installed?
[06:56] <uabn93> !kernel
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> Bfig: your app is 32bit and OS is 64bit
[06:56] <Surlent777> ...and does anyone remeber the name of that package?
[06:56] <bfig> Surlent777, no, how can i install them?
[06:57] <bfig> i think it is somewhere around here http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/libgl1-mesa-glx
[06:57] <bfig> but i don't know how to install it... also it says libgl1 instead of libglu1
[06:58] <widewake> Hello. I had a jar file on my desktop, somehow i moved it to a folder, i brang it back to desktop, however its become a folder rather than an executable file, and when i option/executable the it wont Check the box. There is also a LOCK emblem on the folder, help please?
[06:58] <uabn93> If a hardware doesn't work by default in a distro, does that mean that kernel devs haven' t added it or the distro hasn't?
[06:59] <widewake> Hello. I had a jar file on my desktop, somehow i moved it to a folder, i brang it back to desktop, however its become a folder rather than an executable file, and when i option/executable the it wont Check the box. There is also a LOCK emblem on the folder, help please?
[06:59] <bfig> Surlent777, is that the package i should install? (the i386 at the bottom of the page?)
[06:59] <Surlent777> widewake: open a terminal, and then use the "cd" command to get to where the JAR file is. From there, type sudo chown yourusername:yourusername filename.jar
[06:59] <widewake> k
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> Bfig: you will need to pull down the 32bit deb and copy the .so to /usr/lib32. Is there no 64bit version of the app? Also install ia32-libs and retry. This is one reason 32bit is advised
[07:00] <Surlent777> thank you ActionParsnip
[07:00] <Surlent777> could not remember that name
[07:00] <Surlent777> ia32-libs
[07:00] <bfig> ActionParsnip, the 32 bit deb?
[07:00] <widewake> no such file
[07:00] <gul> uabn93: sometimes there are issues with hardware its because the vendors don't provide info abt there product for Linux community to develop. But ur hardware will work after some teaks
[07:00] <widewake> i get no such file using cd
[07:01] <Surlent777> widewake: okay, put the file onto your desktop
[07:01] <Surlent777> widewake: then, in the terminal, type "cd ~/Desktop" but without the quotes
[07:01] <widewake> ok, i am in desktop
[07:01] <EugeneKay> Can anybody tell me if the default Ubuntu repos will "just work" on an IPv6-only network? I'm building a v6 test lab, and want to avoid v4 as much as possible for purity sake.
[07:01]  * bfig is downloading ia32-libs
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> uabn93: the kernel needs the module to work. Addimg every possible module would bloat the OS a lot
[07:02] <widewake> i am also in the of what id like executable
[07:02] <Surlent777> widewake: okay, with the file in the desktop and after typing cd ~/Desktop, type "sudo chown yourusername:yourusername" replacing yourusername with whatever your user name is.
[07:02] <widewake> its a folder on my desktop
[07:02] <guru1004_> was wondering if there is a system reference page for ubuntu similar to this http://elibrary.fultus.com/technical/index.jsp?topic=/com.fultus.redhat.elinux3/manuals/rhel-rg-en-3/s1-boot-init-shutdown-sysv.html
[07:03] <uabn93> gul: Oh. like in my case, the ralink wifi drivers were available online by the company, but i had to compile it myself. that left me wondering how drivers worked in linux.
[07:03] <widewake> should i be in  /desktop& or desktop/folder$  ?
[07:03] <widewake> desktop$*
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> Bfig: yes as the app is 32bit so it needs 32bit libs. If you can get a 64bit one you won't need to
[07:03] <guru1004_> also how does one turn off the hardware, not only the driver, for wired and wireless network cards
[07:04] <HUMAHATER> hello?
[07:04] <Surlent777> widewake: you should be in ~/Desktop, or /home/yourusername/Desktop; both are equivalent
[07:04] <bfig> ActionParsnip, it's the only download available on the page so no... but what is a 'deb'?
[07:04] <HUMAHATER> #xserverx
[07:04] <uabn93> ActionParsnip: So it is a problem with the ppl developing the modules for the kernel and not ubuntu if drivers don't work by default?
[07:05] <gul> uabn93: right! and similar case with nvidia drivers and printers also
[07:05] <widewake> missing operand
[07:05] <HUMAHATER> anyone here from xserverx.com?
[07:06] <widewake> missing operand for sudo chown
[07:06] <Surlent777> widewake: again, move the JAR file onto your desktop, then in the terminal type "cd ~/Desktop". After that, type "sudo chown yourname:yourname filename.jar"
[07:06] <widewake> k
[07:06] <Surlent777> widewake: after doing that, you should be able to then type "
[07:07] <Surlent777> widewake: after doing that, you should be able to then type "chmod +x filename.jar"
[07:07] <widewake> k
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: instead of yourname, use $USER
[07:07] <uabn93> gul: who are the ones that put the already working, default drivers in linux? its not the distro?
[07:07] <Surlent777> ActionParsnip: ...that would probably be a better idea. Thank you.
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> Surlent777: np :-)
[07:08] <widewake> Surlent777: sudo chown namename,  chmod +x done
[07:08] <Surlent777> widewake: try running your jar file as you did previously. This should have solved your problem.
[07:09] <gul> uabn93: i don't know exactly but LINUX is community projects.......... drivers are added from many developers and finally controlled and releaed ny LINUS
[07:09] <widewake> Surlent777: it has wont execute, and will not let to option execute it.. will try some things
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> uabn93: the kernel team, not just Linus
[07:10] <widewake> Surlent777: does folder access matter? they are all on access files
[07:11] <mrdeb> does linus do anything with linxu now
[07:11] <Surlent777> widewake: a JAR file should either execute or open as an archive...are you saying it's opening in the file browser?
[07:11] <mrdeb> i thought companies just did the kernel now
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> widewake: if you run:  java ~/Desktop/filename.jar   does it work?
[07:11] <gul> ActionParsnip: right but kernal is still under the control of Linus ... the only thing which BSD people say they are more free in
[07:11] <vanquish349> i am pissed with ubuntu
[07:11] <gul> why?
[07:11] <vanquish349> it keeps on freezing
[07:11] <Surlent777> vanquish349: using Compiz, by any chance?
[07:12] <gul> seems to ne
[07:12] <vanquish349> my settings just randomly change
[07:12] <vanquish349> Surlent777: yes i am
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Gul: true but he is part of the kernel team..
[07:12] <AllMyLoving> Hi men!
[07:12] <Surlent777> vanquish349: It is ridiculously unstable in this release for some reason, notably if you change anything. Especially if you change anything.
[07:12] <vanquish349> ok
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> vanquish349: what video chip are you using?
[07:13] <widewake> Surlent777: could not find main class. also if i double click the folder will open with files
[07:13] <vanquish349> but should that explain why desktop icons dont show up
[07:13] <Abnormal> hello. can someone please help me get my mic working?
[07:13] <Surlent777> vanquish349: as for the desktop icons, sounds like Nautilus crashed. Try doing a killall nautilus in a terminal
[07:13] <vanquish349> ActionParsnip: i am fairly new to ubuntu how would i check that
[07:13] <Abnormal> I'll provide you with any info needed
[07:14] <gul> ActionParsnip: ya!......... :)
[07:14] <Abnormal> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> Vanquish: press Alt+F2 and run: nautilus -k    (might be -q)
[07:15] <gul> its -q
[07:15] <vanquish349> Surlent777: didnt work
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> Vanquish: if you run: lspci | grep -i vga     it will tell you
[07:15] <vanquish349> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[07:15] <vanquish349> that is it
[07:17] <infid> how do you remote desktop from one ubuntu machine to another? x11vnc + vinagre or what?
[07:17] <Surlent777>  widewake the command he gave you to run the JAR file is incorrect. Try instead java -r filename.jar
[07:17] <Surlent777> err
[07:17] <Surlent777>  widewake the command he gave you to run the JAR file is incorrect. Try instead java -jar filename.jar
[07:18] <widewake> k
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Abnormal: on the ubuntu sound troubleshooting page there is an alsa-info script as part of a command. Run the command and select to upload to the server. A red URL will be generated. What is the URL?
[07:18] <vanquish349> Surlent777: who are you talking to
[07:18] <widewake> invalid or corrupt
[07:18] <Surlent777> vanquish349: I was talking to widewake
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> Vanquish: if you log on as another user, is it the same?
[07:19] <vanquish349> k
[07:19] <vanquish349> ActionParsnip: i havent got any other users at this time
[07:20] <Surlent777> vanquish349: You can create one with System > Admin > Users and Groups
[07:20] <Abnormal> ActionParsnip, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a8293f09f669ffcac87c6c57f092e446a9fd421b
[07:20] <widewake> Surlent777: there is also a lock symbol on my folder. guessing that is read only, though its not checked
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> Vanquish: make another user. Your OS can hold thousands of local users
[07:20] <Abnormal> ActionParsnip, fwiw, I have a sound out on gfx
[07:21] <Surlent777> widewake: yes, that would normally mean read-only. Your permissions tab should have it listed as Read and Write for you and your group
[07:21] <vanquish349> ok just logging out
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> !adduser
[07:22] <uabn93> !sudo
[07:22] <widewake> Surlent777: when i switch around folder access, file access, to read and write it will go back wont stay. files access will return to ...
[07:23] <Freeeki> my hdd's keep waking up from sleep.
[07:23] <Freeeki> how can i check why?
[07:23] <Surlent777> widewake: I think that's a visual glitch. It should still stick. To make sure, open that terminal, go back to the Desktop, and type ls -al. There will be a string of letters to the left of the jar's file name.
[07:23] <Freeeki> can i somehow log HDD actions?
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> Abnormal: does the system have a make/model?
[07:23] <Abnormal> ActionParsnip, I don't really know
[07:23] <bfig> Surlent777, ActionParsnip, thanks to both. got it working with ia32-libs :D
[07:24] <vanquish349> ok i am back
[07:24] <Surlent777> bfig: Awesome. Sorry I couldn't remember the name there at first.
[07:24] <vanquish349> desktop icons where working
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> Abnormal: well is it a Dell or HP or something likd that or is it a home build / bought from a small local computer shop?
[07:25] <widewake> Surlent777:  thats odd. its listing  a .jar and a .jar(2)
[07:25] <Abnormal> ActionParsnip, home build
[07:25] <Abnormal> desktop computer
[07:25] <Abnormal> asus motherboard
[07:25] <Abnormal> and an onboard sound card
[07:25] <Freeeki> my hdd's keep waking up from sleep. can i find out why?
[07:25] <Surlent777> widewake: wow, that's new. would you mind posting the full output on the pastebin website and showing me?
[07:26] <Abnormal> my audio out works just fine, it's just that audio in is not
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> Vanquish: ok so we now know its profile based, not the apps themselves. Did you change release before the issue started?
[07:26] <naturally> hi,everyone. Does someone know how to register nickname on this irc server?
[07:26] <widewake> Surlent777: dont mind, will get
[07:26] <britta_> I'm having trouble mounting a USB stick. Disk utility tool says 'Daemon is inhibited'. Please tell me what that means, and is there a way to fix it?
[07:27] <Dr_Heckle> 10.04 LTS: Just resumed from hibernation (went quit well other than) & my cursor was not being drawn (still "existed" & moved, just not drawn) this was "fixed" when I started up X-Chat... For future reference what is the name of the program that is responsible for drawing the cursor?
[07:27] <Dr_Heckle> quite*
[07:27] <vanquish349> ActionParsnip: no, it was working fine yesturday and when i came on today stuff was going wrong so i ran updated manger and updated everything that it said to
[07:27] <Lancelot> naturally: search how to register with nickserv
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> Abnormal: ok then it has no model or make. If you run: alsamixer   is the mic unmuted and cranked?
[07:27] <Surlent777> naturally: /msg nickserv <password> <e-mail>
[07:28] <naturally> Lancelot: where to search ?
[07:28] <Dr_Heckle> naturally, /msg nickserv help
[07:28] <naturally> Dr_Heckle: oh , thank you.
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> Naturally: i'd ask in #freenode
[07:28] <Dr_Heckle> yw
[07:28] <Lancelot> naturally: google perhaps? Surlent777 just answered you anyway
[07:29] <Abnormal> ActionParsnip, yep, I messed with levels already
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Abnormal also in sound settings make sure the correct mic is selected
[07:29] <naturally> Lancelot: yeah, thanks. just noticed. thank you all.  Sorry... Google fixed it.
[07:30] <Abnormal> I added my card to /etc/modules and reinstalled alsa
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> Abnormal: what was the magic bullet?
[07:30] <Abnormal> ActionParsnip, ^
[07:30] <Abnormal> that's what I did
[07:30] <Dr_Heckle> 10.04 LTS What is the name of the program responsible for the cursor (esp. drawing it)?
[07:30] <Abnormal> not sure which one of those fixed it
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> Abnormal: nice. Wtg!!
[07:30] <widewake> Surlent777: Thanks for help, resolved problem!
[07:30] <Abnormal> but one of them did, for sure
[07:30] <Abnormal> and I'm happy now
[07:30] <Abnormal> :)
[07:31] <Abnormal> thanks dude, much appreciated
[07:31] <vanquish349> please i still need help
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> Abnormal: i'd reboot to test
[07:31] <Abnormal> next bug: I start skype, but I don't see it
[07:32] <Dr_Heckle> from "man -k cursor" > "XFreeCursor (3)      - manipulate cursors" is this it?
[07:32] <vanquish349> please i still need help
[07:33] <Surlent777> vanquish349: one more thing. Try opening gconf-editor, find apps, then nautilus, then preferences, and make sure show_desktop is checked
[07:33] <Abnormal> skype's fixed too
[07:33] <marzen> can anyone tell me why twitter pages are blank .. they tell me it's an OS issue .. I'm pretty sure FF and chrome are consistent across OS's ...
[07:35] <ouyes> hi all, I get a new usb wireless card and the driver disk is for windows, but I am running ubuntu, how to install a driver under ubuntu?
[07:35] <vanquish349> Surlent777: yes it worked
[07:36] <vanquish349> but how would that have been turned off
[07:36] <Surlent777> vanquish349: no idea. =/
[07:36] <arooni-mobile> how do i determine the MAC address of the wireless card (i cant use ifconfig cuz i'm compiling wireless drivers).  is there another way?
[07:36] <vanquish349> also one more problem syntax highlighting isnt working on gedit they say it is an os problem
[07:36] <glink> hello
[07:36] <Surlent777> arooni-mobile: would sudo lshw | less do it?
[07:36] <marzen> arooni-mobile lspci or lsusb
[07:37] <Surlent777> vanquish349: what language?
[07:37] <vanquish349> all of them
[07:37] <glink> how can I install burg on mandriva 2010.2?
[07:37] <sda1986> hi all! Question! I have a LIB for a cryptograpy key! I have multiple crit key, but the lib can use only one at the time, so multiple user on a terminal cannot use their crypt key together. Can I say to a LIB you can work only with this USB port? so i copy multiple copies of those libs and i assign it to each USB port? thanks!
[07:37] <Surlent777> vanquish349: It's working for me =/
[07:37] <rww> glink: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. Perhaps you're looking for #mandriva.
[07:37] <arooni-mobile> Surlent777, is the serial: in lshw the MAC address?
[07:38] <aku> hai
[07:38] <vanquish349> Surlent777: it was working yesturday then i went to update my python irc bot. and it wasnt showing up
[07:38] <glink> tww yes, I'm sorry
[07:38] <glink> :P
[07:38] <Surlent777> arooni-mobile: ...I'm not sure. It looks kinda like one. Anyone know for sure?
[07:39] <guru1004_> hi.  is there a way to display the current power consumption in kWh
[07:39] <Surlent777> vanquish349: try doing a complete removal of all the gedit stuff in Synaptic and then reinstall it all. See if that helps.
[07:40] <vanquish349> Surlent777: k
[07:40] <ouyes> anyone have the experience to install drivers for a usb wireless card?
[07:42] <vanquish349> fuck it still doesnt work
[07:43] <Surlent777> you did a Complete Removal right?
[07:43] <vanquish349> Surlent777: yes
[07:44] <Surlent777> vanquish349: have you tried manually selecting Python from the list from within gedit?
[07:44] <vanquish349> Surlent777: yes
[07:46] <vanquish349> this is bullshit
[07:46] <Surlent777> vanquish349: best I can think of at this point is try moving/deleting ~/.gnome2/gedit and see if forcing it to remake the files will help at all
[07:47] <Jordan_U> !language | vanquish349
[07:47] <Surlent777> vanquish349: note that you will have to reset your settings after this by hand, and remake/redownload any custom tools/colour schemes that you had put there previously.
[07:48] <vanquish349> ubottu: ok sorry
[07:48] <vanquish349> Surlent777: still aint working
[07:48] <vanquish349> is there somthing similer to gedit that i could use
[07:48] <Surlent777> vanquish349: one more thing
[07:48] <draggle> vim
[07:49] <vanquish349> is ubottu a bot
[07:49] <draggle> nope
[07:49] <Surlent777> vanquish349: again, gconf-editor. Go to apps, gedit-2, syntax_highlighting, make sure is checked
[07:49] <red2kic> !brain | vanquish349
[07:49] <ouyes> how to install drivers for a usb wireless card under ubuntu?
[07:49] <draggle> gvim i mean
[07:50] <prabh> hi
[07:50] <Abnormal> is ubuntu-desktop a native ubuntu package?
[07:50] <prabh> yes it is
[07:50] <Abnormal> it tries to install firefox with it, amd I don't want that
[07:50] <Abnormal> why's that necessary?
[07:50] <Surlent777> Abnormal: ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package that pulls in the default Ubuntu desktop
[07:50] <vanquish349> Surlent777: that was off to
[07:50] <Abnormal> oh, thanks
[07:50] <Abnormal> didn
[07:50] <vanquish349> too*
[07:50] <Abnormal> 't know that
[07:51] <vanquish349> what is going on
[07:51] <Surlent777> Abnormal: same sort of thing for kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, linux-image, etc. Metapackages basically just do nothing but have a set of related dependencies
[07:52] <Dr_Heckle> 10.04 LTS: Just resumed from hibernation (went quite well other than) & my cursor was not being drawn (still "existed" & moved, just not drawn) this was "fixed" when I started up X-Chat... For future reference what is the name of the program that is responsible for drawing the cursor? (from "man -k cursor" > "XFreeCursor (3)      - manipulate cursors" is this it?)
[07:52] <Surlent777> vanquish349: seems your gconf settings are getting hit. As you notice problems I guess just check around in there for something related =/
[07:52] <vanquish349> ok
[07:52] <vanquish349> Surlent777: thanks for your help
[07:52] <red2kic> Abnormal: Not a real package. Just a set of carefully/carelessly-selected packages.
[07:52] <Surlent777> vanquish349: np
[07:52] <Abnormal> btw, just flaming a bit: who's the one who decided that all ubuntu users upgrading to 11.04 should be pissed off with unity?
[07:52] <Abnormal> unity is nowhere near good working solution
[07:52] <Abnormal> I can
[07:53] <Abnormal> 't add launchers easily
[07:53] <Abnormal> launcher bar is laggy
[07:53] <Surlent777> Abnormal: You can revert to the normal GNOME 2 desktop at the login screen; choose Ubuntu Classic
[07:53] <Abnormal> Surlent777, yeah, I did that
[07:53] <Surlent777> Abnormal: I do understand and share your frustration though, believe me
[07:53] <red2kic> Abnormal: Mark Shuttleworth, I think. You can stay with 10.04 LTS.
[07:53] <Abnormal> I'm just wondering
[07:54] <Abnormal> red2kic, yeah, and have enormous problems with it
[07:55] <Abnormal> I have a less then 1 year old MoBo and gfx
[07:55] <Dr_Heckle> ok... perhaps some 1 can tell me if there's a freenode channel for X/X11/whatever...
[07:55] <Abnormal> I have hard enough time dealing with them on 11.04 even
[07:55] <Dr_Heckle> as i'd rather not run a /list w/ freenodes' 10k+ channels
[07:55] <Abnormal> Dr_Heckle, try something like #xorg
[07:56] <Dr_Heckle> Abnormal,  thx
[07:57] <nishanth> i am having trouble opening the same application twice at the same time.....like say if i want to open 2 terminals ...i cant do it....can someone help me?
[07:58] <irreverant> whats the command for resetting the root passwrd?
[07:59] <irreverant> su passwd || password ?
[08:00] <Scall> How can I do High ASCII characters like this -> ☺ or this -> ▲ in a GNU/Linux system?
[08:00] <penol> GRE: Bad checksum from pppd.
[08:00] <penol> GRE: Bad checksum from pppd.
[08:00] <penol> enyone can help?
[08:01] <FloodBot1> penol: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:01] <Dr_Heckle> irreverant, back again?
[08:01] <Dr_Heckle> yeah su  (switch user) passwd (change password)
[08:02] <Dr_Heckle> you might also direct your attention to passwd --help
[08:02] <penol> Dr_Heckle: are u talking to me?
[08:03] <Dr_Heckle> no, i'm talking to irreverant
[08:03] <penol> aah
[08:03] <D0minat0r> anyone know an easy iptables guide/generator? no GUI
[08:04] <Dr_Heckle> penol, "GRE: Bad checksum from pppd." isn't a question
[08:04] <irreverant> Dr_Heckle actually it worked on my dell mini, see i have been playing around with ubuntu on this machine which is essentially a break me box, i bought the netbook to help retrain me at linux before i decide to install it on my production machine
[08:04] <Roasted_> Question - On Ubuntu when connecting to a CIFS share on my SAN, I sometimes get an error- "Error: No data available. Please select another viewer and try again." What's the issue here?
[08:04] <irreverant> so far ive been learning at an exponential pace.
[08:05] <irreverant> D0minat0r: what do you need an iptables guide for? are you subnetting?
[08:05] <Dr_Heckle> orly?
[08:05] <penol> Dr_Heckle: What does GRE: Bad Checksum from pppd mean?
[08:05] <Dr_Heckle> penol, Provide context
[08:05] <irreverant> pppd is for a point to point connection
[08:05] <Dr_Heckle> where did this come from? what did you do?
[08:06] <D0minat0r> irreverant: im have to config my server, if i put default rule DROP my surf (http) gets slow as hell
[08:06] <irreverant> penol: are you connecting through dsl or a modem?
[08:06] <D0minat0r> trouble figuring out services/port i have to open for it to work, the services i have started are easy only have SSHD and imapd on
[08:07] <greaver> lenovo T500 thinkpad(with intel 825687LM gigabit card) can't connect to lan
[08:07] <Flynn> Hello.  Does anyone know the command to install xfce?  I looked it up and it says "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop" but that returned "sudo: aptitude: command not found."
[08:07] <irreverant> how bad is your http connection when you set the rule?
[08:07] <Roasted_> When mounting CIFS shares do I HAVE to use gvfs or can I use something else?
[08:07] <irreverant> and are you running the server behind a firewall?
[08:07] <D0minat0r> irreverant: very slow
[08:07] <Dr_Heckle> D0minat0r, google: default port list
[08:08] <D0minat0r> the server is the firewall
[08:08] <irreverant> is it running bind?
[08:08] <irreverant> for dns?
[08:08] <D0minat0r> no dns
[08:08] <draggle> so everything is itanium only since 11.11?
[08:08] <eekTheCat> Is there some guide to list server specific improvements in maveric and natty? Is there much difference aside from some updated packages?
[08:08] <draggle> whoops
[08:08] <D0minat0r> i have my operators dns on all clients
[08:09] <irreverant> id recommend following Dr_Heckle advice and checking first the default port list
[08:09] <irreverant> you running ubuntu server? or rhel?
[08:09] <D0minat0r> irreverant: ubuntu server
[08:10] <aeontech> hey all
[08:10] <r0fs3ck5> has the flash plugin for ubuntu firefox been fixed yet?
[08:10] <aeontech> i messed up my grub loader :(
[08:11] <aeontech> tried to follow the instructions here: http://www.linux.com/community/forums?func=view&id=4219&catid=18 to restore it, but still no luck
[08:11] <aeontech> do i have to reinstall the whole system?
[08:11] <kwangkiss> hi
[08:11] <rob_p> penol: You're using pptpd or connecting to pptp server for VPN, I presume?
[08:11] <irreverant> D0minat0r whats your current acl look like?
[08:12] <aeontech> or if someone can point me to a manual on how to fix it i'd be very grateful
[08:12] <aeontech> i don't want to reinstall everything :(
[08:13] <r0fs3ck5> I want to install a flash player plugin for firefox without #shared-objects being symlinked to the root of my home folder.  Is there a plugin that does not have this vuln?
[08:13] <irreverant> well i was trying to point him in the right direction for iptable creation
[08:14] <Flynn> Is having my mouse pointer be red taking a significant amount of resources?
[08:14] <wisien> how can i run kde?
[08:15] <D0minat0r> irreverant: well at the moment i have default accept in because i cant get my rules to work
[08:15] <D0minat0r> and it seems i forgot to save my rules when i did reboot :)
[08:15] <irreverant> hmm
[08:15] <D0minat0r> so all i havein iptables are the routing rules
[08:15] <irreverant> static routes?
[08:16] <irreverant> can you show me your network diagram?
[08:17] <D0minat0r> modem (bridged) - Ubuntu server - client
[08:17] <irreverant> how did you bridge your modem?
[08:17] <D0minat0r> modem software
[08:18] <irreverant> so its a hybrid modem?
[08:18] <D0minat0r> so that my server handles the PPPoE
[08:18] <irreverant> ok
[08:18] <D0minat0r> the whole net works fine and is fast as long as i have default inbound accept
[08:18] <irreverant> have you tested for packet loss?
[08:18] <D0minat0r> i have done ICS from help.ubuntu.com
[08:19] <D0minat0r> no i havent
[08:19] <irreverant> well if your losing connectivity then your packets are either timing out or your getting loss.
[08:19] <rob_p> D0minat0r: What are you trying to filter/block at the Ubuntu box?
[08:20] <D0minat0r> rob_p: i want my server to drop everyting that isnt established from inside besides sshd and imapd
[08:20] <rob_p> D0minat0r: So use iptables state module.
[08:21] <tasslehoff> Is it possible to use wired and wireless networks at the same time? I want to connect a gadget with static IP with LAN, while still being connected to the internet on WLAN.
[08:21] <irreverant> yes, but if he
[08:21] <rob_p> D0minat0r: And then just add some static rules for inbound ssh and imap.
[08:21] <irreverant> s blocking everything else then thats why hes getting slow connectivity because his rules are dropping packets
[08:23] <irreverant> yes you can connect both wirelessly and with a wired connection
[08:23] <D0minat0r> iptables is the only thing i just cant figure out on my server
[08:23] <irreverant> since both interfaces are independent of each other.
[08:23] <D0minat0r> gone form windows based system to only linux in a month so still a beginner :)
[08:23] <Deimos> has anyone figured out how to get compiz window dragging performance back in 11.04?
[08:24] <rob_p> D0minat0r: If you have your rules properly defined, then the NAT sessions will be stateful and therefore allow traffic regardless of the default policy (which is probably set to DROP in your situation).
[08:25] <guru1004_> how do you display current power consumption
[08:25] <guru1004_> preferable in the terminal
[08:25] <draggle> acpi -b
[08:25] <D0minat0r> rob_p: i followed this guide for my ICS https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[08:25] <irreverant> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[08:26] <rob_p> D0minat0r: But if you do modify the default policy, don't forget to specifically allow the services needed by the Ubuntu box itself.  Again, stateful filtering works good there.
[08:27] <D0minat0r> rob_p: i have opened the services i need and all works BUT when i set drop default then my http surfing goes slow from the clients
[08:27] <D0minat0r> so all works but goes slow and i cant figure out that part
[08:27] <irreverant> but he can accomplish this much better using a firewall with a router role and configure port fowarding
[08:29] <VictorCL2> hallow :)
[08:29] <guru1004_> draggle: that does not show the actual power consumption only remaining battery life in time and percentage of battery
[08:29] <VictorCL2> ubuntu says that firefox 3.6 is the latest one .. how can I update to firefox 4 ?
[08:30] <irreverant> did you try apt-get install firefox because thats what i did and got the same issue
[08:30] <rob_p> D0minat0r: You can troubleshoot it in a couple of different ways.  You could enable logging in your iptables ruleset and then look for dropped packets and see if you've overlooked something that needs to pass through, or you can do a packet dump (tcpdump works well for this) and monitor the traffic in real time.
[08:30] <irreverant> im researching the same thing right now
[08:30] <Starminn> !ff4 | VictorCL2
[08:30] <guru1004_> i am looking for a way to measure how much power i am currently using to gauge power saving based on my settings
[08:30] <Starminn> VictorCL2: That's what I did to add the stable; it's been working flawlessly for me.
[08:31] <VictorCL2> I will
[08:31] <ferengee> guru1004_, on a laptop? or a desktop machine
[08:31] <rabidfox> hi all
[08:31] <guru1004_> on a laptop ferengee.  trying to get 7+ hrs of battery life.
[08:31] <rob_p> D0minat0r: Do your clients get DNS answers from your server, or do they query outside nameservers?
[08:32] <guru1004_> not sure if that makes any difference ferengee.  seems like the code would be the same.  i know windows 7 has an option to show current power consumption in kilowatt hours
[08:32] <D0minat0r> rob_p: outside, from my operator
[08:33] <new2net> !search ubuntu
[08:33] <irreverant> rob_p hes not running dns locally
[08:33] <aureianimus_> is there a way i can detect keyboard use with bash?
[08:33] <new2net> yikes... good thing he knows better than to print all 1010
[08:34] <irreverant> did you make sure you configured your dsn servers in your server?
[08:34] <rob_p> D0minat0r: When you test name resolution from a client machine, do you get long pauses? (use dig)
[08:34] <VictorCL2> should I update to version 11 ?
[08:34] <irreverant> because if you didnt then that would explain why your getting such long wait times for browsing
[08:34] <ferengee> guru1004_,  the most objective way to measure power consumption is to follow your battery drain on your laptop, or monitor the amount of power drawn from a wall outlet
[08:35] <D0minat0r> rob_p: hard to tell now sitting outside the net and no client on the inside powered on :/
[08:35] <rob_p> D0minat0r: Sort of hard to troubleshoot unless you can reproduce the issue! :|
[08:35] <D0minat0r> rob_p: i know...damn work
[08:35] <D0minat0r> hehe
[08:35] <sachin__> is ther any way to play .rmvb files in ubuntu 10.04?
[08:36] <sachin__> HELP : is ther any way to play .rmvb files in ubuntu?
[08:36] <rob_p> D0minat0r: Anyway, I'm guessing you have overlooked something that the server needs access to but is being blocked by your default policy.
[08:37] <irreverant> D0minat0r let me ask you this, if you had a router configured with lets say  primary and secondary dns server set to 67.x.x.x and your domain controller is running dns and it
[08:37] <ferengee> guru1004_, i use powertop for tuning
[08:37] <irreverant> s ip is set to 192.x.x.x and your having a problem associating a client with the domain controller why do you think that would happen?
[08:37] <irreverant> of if you can answer rob_p?
[08:38] <irreverant> and your trying to associate to server.local can you tell me why?
[08:38] <irreverant> the clients wouldnt be registering with the domain?
[08:39] <D0minat0r> networking isnt my strong side, still learning
[08:39] <irreverant> how bout you rob_p?
[08:39] <VictorCL2> can I update ubuntu 10 to 11 ?
[08:40] <DJones> VictorCL2: If you've got 10.10, then yes, you can update to 11.04
[08:40] <VictorCL2> I have 10.04
[08:40] <irreverant> i can tell you why which is what i think is your problem.
[08:40] <DJones> VictorCL2: If you've got 10.04, you would need to upgrade to 10.10 first and then upgrade to 11.04.  You can't upgrade directly from 10.04 to 11.04
[08:41] <irreverant> you have to set either in eth0 or the routers primary dns to the private network address of the domain controller 192.x.x.x
[08:41] <irreverant> because the client will try using the current primary ip address which is a public address for srv records instead of the local domain ctonroller
[08:42] <irreverant> so unless you direct the client to request the name service from the local domain controller its not going to find it out on the internet because its not there. so right now you getting issues i think with name resolution
[08:42] <D0minat0r> irreverant: good idea to install bind on the server then?
[08:42] <irreverant> yes.
[08:43] <D0minat0r> ok thats what i figured out reading what you wrote :)
[08:43] <irreverant> and set your primary dns servers to the ones from your provider or the gateway
[08:43] <D0minat0r> ok
[08:43] <D0minat0r> i will try with bind then tonight
[08:44] <rob_p> irreverant: Sorry, I stepped away for a bit...I'm at work! :)
[08:45] <perscitus> Unity is broken and won't start up. To be exact, Monitor goes to No Signal mode. And this is with OSS ATI driver.
[08:45] <guru1004_> ferengee: will i need to uninstall acpi to use powertop
[08:45] <irreverant> so that your clients will make the request to the server and the server will then direct all the requests from the primary dns server that you configure in the hosts file
[08:46] <perscitus> Unity is broken and won't start up. To be exact, Monitor goes to No Signal mode. And this is with OSS ATI driver.
[08:46] <rob_p> irreverant: D0minat0r: No need to run your own namserver as long as you put the proper NAT/forwarding rules in place.
[08:47] <chrislu5tic> Hi there, when I go to run my win app, it says it is not marked as an executable,
[08:47] <chrislu5tic> wine**
[08:47] <perscitus> Unity is broken and won't start up. To be exact, Monitor goes to No Signal mode. And this is with OSS ATI driver. But its not driver since I am in classic mode now.
[08:48] <rob_p> D0minat0r: If you decide you want to provide name resolution from the Ubuntu box, consider using dnsmasq because it also provides dhcp services.  Sort of a 2 birds with one stone type thing! :)
[08:48] <Axsuul> how would i run a command from a certain directory without having to "cd" to it?
[08:48] <perscitus> Axsuul,  use the path to it
[08:49] <sachin__> axsuul: use export PATH="/home/abc"
[08:49] <perscitus> Axsuul,  like /usr/bin/firefox
[08:49] <D0minat0r> rob_p: well i have DHCP already running on it
[08:49] <D0minat0r> damn installed dhcp3-server from the beginning
[08:49] <perscitus> Unity is broken and won't start up. To be exact, Monitor goes to No Signal mode. And this is with OSS ATI driver. But its not driver since I am in classic mode now.
[08:49] <rob_p> D0minat0r: dnsmasq is *better*, hehe! :)
[08:50] <irreverant> if you use wireshark you can see if your dropping packets somewhere
[08:50] <D0minat0r> rob_p: hehe gonna see if i wanna go thru with the trouble changing my dhcp server tonight then :)
[08:50] <kbni> I need help
[08:50] <perscitus> What!? no help?
[08:50] <kbni> desperately
[08:50] <rob_p> D0minat0r: dnsmasq lets your Ubuntu box act like a conventional home router by providing dhcp and dns services to the client boxes.
[08:51] <kbni> Pirates of the Carribean 4 or Thor 3d - which should I go and see?
[08:51] <perscitus> kbni,  both
[08:51] <irreverant> rob_p and that would help him out by making thigns easier for him
[08:51] <kbni> which is better?
[08:51] <dcg> I vote for both too
[08:51] <irreverant> theres no need to be worrying about configuring acl/iptables unless your running an enterprise solution
[08:51] <rob_p> D0minat0r: So with dnsmasq and some iptables magic, you have a linux-based router! :)
[08:52] <perscitus> I would go with Thor since more sequels are often just remakes of previous ones
[08:52] <kbni> thanks perscitus
[08:52] <kbni> I've never been to a 3D film before
[08:52] <D0minat0r> well it is routing now just not so secure at the moment hehe
[08:52] <irreverant> get yourself a watchguard firewall
[08:52] <perscitus> nor have i
[08:52] <kbni> I heard 3d is bullshit
[08:52] <D0minat0r> or even tho someone would find a username the cant getin withouth my private rsa key
[08:53] <kbni> I dont want my movie experience tainted by some cocked-up fad
[08:53] <irreverant> http://www.watchguard.com/?t=q3g&gclid=CKyYiOeC8agCFSUaQgodWlySDw
[08:53] <D0minat0r> first thing i did was take away root login and set paswordless login with only rsa key
[08:53] <perscitus> Unity is broken and won't start up. To be exact, Monitor goes to No Signal mode. And this is with OSS ATI driver. But its not driver since I am in classic mode now.
[08:53] <dcg> kbni: in the old days 3d was pretty ordinary, modern 3d can be spectacular, just look at the success of avatar
[08:53] <rob_p> D0minat0r: You would be well served to get familiar with iptables if you really want to take command of your firewall/router.
[08:53] <kbni> fuck james cameron
[08:53] <D0minat0r> rob_p: i want and thats why im trying iptables
[08:54] <jussi> if I sudo cp -R folder1 folder2, does it keep folder1's permissions?
[08:54] <xardas008> D0minat0r, there is a graphical tool, fwbuilder which makes work with iptables much easier
[08:54] <D0minat0r> i tired of not having full control, and i do this to learn handling router/gateway/server
[08:54] <perscitus> Unity is broken and won't start up. To be exact, Monitor goes to No Signal mode. And this is with OSS ATI driver.  Let's keep the channel family friendly. :)
[08:59] <doggerz> right
[08:59] <doggerz> thats it
[08:59] <FloodBot1> doggerz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:59] <irreverant> your ip scheme?
[08:59] <doggerz> im installing mandriva
[08:59] <new2net> eekTheCat... you mean synaptic package manager?
[08:59] <irreverant> and when you mean net do you mean your lan segment?
[08:59] <perscitus> Unity is broken and won't start up. To be exact, Monitor goes to No Signal mode. And this is with OSS ATI driver. But its not driver since I am in classic mode now.
[08:59] <MIyamoto> i'm still using lucid
[09:00] <irreverant> D0minat0r and how did you configure the interfaces?
[09:00] <eekTheCat> new2net, I don't think so. something I can view in a news reader. scan what's changed. if it's an important security update i launch a terminal and manually upgrade. if not I ignore it
[09:01] <eekTheCat> not a news reader. i meant to say a feed aggregator.
[09:01] <irreverant> D0minat0r?
[09:01] <perscitus> maybe ill install ATI Drivers and see if its just OSS Driver and Unity thats broken
[09:07] <yabanize> Is it just me that doesnt like the new ui in 11.04?
[09:07] <sachin__> how to install new linux kernel from the source code..
[09:07] <sachin__> ?
[09:07] <D0minat0r> irreverant: yes
[09:07] <traveler> I've upgraded ubuntu from 10.14 to 11.04 and since then I can't access it - I dont see GRUB OS-chosing window at all - instead I get 'video mode not supported' on my monitor - what can I do about it ?
[09:07] <DirtyDawg> yabanize: nope
[09:08] <yabanize> DirtyDawg, is there a waay to get it back to classic ubuntu
[09:08] <Jordan_U> !classic | yabanize
[09:08] <DirtyDawg> yes at the login screen, choose Ubuntu classic from the menu at the bottom
[09:08] <D0minat0r> irreverant: sorry had to run a bit
[09:08] <rabidfox> you can choose the classic ubuntu on your startup screen
[09:09] <irreverant> no worries. Im actually finishing up my bachelors in communications and network management
[09:10] <irreverant> and have an AAS in Computer Science Network systems
[09:10] <dusf> is it strange that fdisk -l returns nothing in terminal?
[09:11] <D0minat0r> irreverant: in smb.conf i have set up in [global] hosts allow = <IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS>/24
[09:11] <llutz> dusf: use sudo
[09:11] <D0minat0r> and i know that works as smb logs show all external ip addresses gets DENIED
[09:11] <irreverant> ok...
[09:12] <irreverant> so you have the loopback and cidr 24
[09:13] <D0minat0r> but all that would stop i would set my default inbound policy to drop which its now at the moment because of my problems, right?
[09:13] <irreverant> Wait im sorry, i trying to understand what your typing.
[09:14] <D0minat0r> hehe no problem as im beginner i might confuse things
[09:14] <irreverant> here were all beginners...
[09:14] <irreverant> well maybe not all.
[09:15] <rob_p> D0minat0r: With the default policy set to DROP, you will need to specifically allow the ports required for smb protocol within your iptables rules.
[09:15] <irreverant> that makes sense
[09:15] <D0minat0r> rob_p: yes, and i dont even want samba to work form an external ip address
[09:15] <dusf> llutz: ty
[09:15] <rob_p> D0minat0r: That's wise! :)
[09:15] <dusf> llutz: i'd assumed it would recommend using sudo if required
[09:16] <D0minat0r> right now i have logs form external ip addresses tryingto reach samba shares but get denied
[09:16] <rob_p> D0minat0r: Again, get familiar with iptables and you will be able to allow and block exactly what you want on whatever interface you desire!
[09:16] <llutz> dusf: yes, empty output is irritating
[09:16] <D0minat0r> rob_p: i will, im so paranoid i have to so i can sleep at night :)
[09:16] <irreverant> but im lost dont you want it to deny external access?
[09:17] <D0minat0r> yes
[09:17] <D0minat0r> just asked why i get reguests for shares from outside the internal net
[09:18] <irreverant> i need to get off the oxy, i had surgery and this stuff really makes you dull or rather my brain dull.
[09:18] <D0minat0r> didnt know that was possible to access windows shares from another net
[09:18] <irreverant> cause people are always scanning for open ports
[09:18] <irreverant> well that depends, are you talking about a diff subnet?
[09:19] <bullgard4> Nautilus shows the directory icons of /var/lib/gdm, /var/lib/mysql and /var/lib/php5 together with an emblem "white skew cross". What does this white skew cross mean?
[09:19] <szal> D0minat0r: it is possible, I've seen a lot such shares years ago in the uni network
[09:19] <D0minat0r> irreverant: should be on completely different net as i get requests from jankara, turkey and im in sweden
[09:19] <irreverant> so let say you have 192... and 172 subnets you saying that because your on two diff segments you wont be able to access a resource on the other segment?
[09:20] <D0minat0r> aah my friend told me because my iptables isnt set to drop it answers on the smb port to see the ip address of the requests
[09:20] <irreverant> no, theres no reason why just because their in a diff geo region you wnot get requests
[09:21] <irreverant> hmm... if your not set to drop that request on that port then it will answer the request
[09:22] <irreverant> all drop does it reads from a source and kills the packet from reaching the destination.
[09:22] <D0minat0r> im gonna first set my iptables straight and see my net works good and see the logs after that
[09:23] <irreverant> Port scanning is what your talking about
[09:23] <irreverant> you ever heard of nmap?
[09:23] <D0minat0r> ive heard of it...
[09:24] <irreverant> nmap is a great tool!
[09:25] <irreverant> http://nmap.org/
[09:25] <irreverant> icmp bomb and udp drops
[09:25] <D0minat0r> yeah reading now
[09:25] <irreverant> read about udp and icmp
[09:25] <kflottorp> Is there an IRC client (other than Empathy ) that integrates with the notification system?
[09:26] <irreverant> xchat
[09:26] <D0minat0r> kflottorp: xCat
[09:26] <irreverant> i thnk
[09:26] <yabanize> wheres the effect options gone from previous versions of ubuntu
[09:26] <D0minat0r> xChat
[09:26] <yabanize> i want to turn on wobilly windows
[09:26] <D0minat0r> i use xChat
[09:26] <kflottorp> I'm currently using xchat, but it doesn't integrate :(
[09:26] <irreverant> what about ksirc?
[09:27] <irreverant> im not sure
[09:27] <D0minat0r> aah i only have the icon in notification bar that blinks an ! when someone types to me
[09:27] <bullgard4> kflottorp: Gajim.
[09:27] <bullgard4> kflottorp: Sorry, I made a mistake.
[09:27] <mathews> !password
[09:28] <irreverant> im new to ubuntu so im learning too but the best way i learn is by participating in answering questions, it requires research
[09:28] <kflottorp> I'll give some of them a try, thanks :)
[09:28] <szal> bullgard4: Gajim is a Jabber client, not an IRC client
[09:31] <kbingham> i'm having some really odd problems on Natty with power management / cpufreq on a dell precision m70. If I leave the power unplugged, my cpufreq scaling monitor happily shows me flicking between idle at 800mhz and busy at 2.2GHz... but if I plug in the power - (You'd think we wouldn't be worried about saving power then) - I am left stuck at 800Mhz permanantly ..... anyone got any clues or ideas on where to look / what to do ?
[09:31] <Chris_H> The thing I love about Unity is that I can have 40+ tabs in google chrome and still see the favicons of all tabs :)
[09:31] <Chris_H> Very useful
[09:31] <html_inprogress> can you make a linux cluster ?
[09:31] <new_kid1> Hi I cant delete a partiton on my pen drive. I created the partition by usinng the dd command using an iso image as source
[09:32] <irreverant> what about the ubuntuone client?
[09:32] <new_kid1> please give a command that will force delete the partition
[09:33] <irreverant> html_inprogress http://www.linux.com/community/blogs/tags/Ubuntu-Cluster/
[09:33] <irreverant> that i remember reading about
[09:33] <iceroot> new_kid1: use gparted
[09:34] <pepeleches> Hi!
[09:34] <pepeleches> is someone having problems installing ubuntu 11.04?
[09:35] <irreverant> beouwolf clusters
[09:35] <mathews> pepeleches: post ur problem
[09:36] <pepeleches> I did. but received no response :(
[09:36] <irreverant> html_inprogress does that help?
[09:37] <mathews> pepeleches: it is important a detailed description as how u did it like along with windows or single os like that and what error comes out....
[09:37] <szal> pepeleches: where did you?
[09:39] <pepeleches> mathews, szal: my problem ismy problem is I can not install because the installation cd will not start. The CD is not damaged, because in a virtual machine I installed ubuntu windows properly.
[09:39] <pepeleches> (sorry for my english :P)
[09:39] <VictorCL2> people still use cd ... xD
[09:40] <yabanize> pepeleeches, look in your bios see if it is set to boot from cd
[09:40] <tomek_> is corel draw avaialable for linux?
[09:41] <yabanize> Also can anyone tell me where the effects like the wobbily windows are in 11.04
[09:41] <pepeleches> yabanize: yes, it stats booting, but in a moment it stops
[09:41] <uabn93> pepeleches: something went wrong when burning to the disk. make sure you slow the speed down to 4x
[09:41] <mathews> tomek_: take gimp
[09:42] <yabanize> So i want to know is there more people that prefer unity over the classic interface?
[09:42] <yabanize> vice versa
[09:42] <tomek_> mathews:what about 3d
[09:42] <uabn93> pepeleches: at what speed did you burn the disk?
[09:42] <pepeleches> uabn93: 4x :S
[09:42] <mathews> yabanize: install compiz manager and select it from system
[09:42] <bullgard4> Nautilus shows the directory icons of /var/lib/gdm, /var/lib/mysql and /var/lib/php5 together with an emblem "white skew cross". What does this white skew cross mean?
[09:43] <mathews> tomek_: search in software center
[09:43] <szal> VictorCL2: (1) as long as the images won't run by themselves (i.e., you need something like unetbootin to make them run from a USB pen) it's easier to burn a CD; (2) there are still computers out there that don't boot from USB
[09:43] <irreverant> has anyone here ever created a live cd on a sd card? or even a sd card that is mounted in a mobile windwos phone?
[09:43] <uabn93> pepeleches: where did you download the iso from?
[09:43] <yabanize> irreverant, i haven't but i dont see why it shouldnt work as its just like a usb stick
[09:43] <html_inprogress> yes
[09:43] <pepeleches> uabn93: two pics from the halts: http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/396/17052011173.jpg , http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2444/17052011174.jpg
[09:43] <mathews> irreverant: sd card never be a live cd but can a start up disk
[09:44] <pepeleches> uabn93: from ubuntu.com main download page (html), and ubuntu.com alternate downloads page (torrent)
[09:44] <darkacap> hello
[09:44] <yabanize> Why not, Matthews..
[09:45] <yabanize> And yes ubuntu.com has very fast servers :P
[09:45] <irreverant> mathews: why wont an sd card work? what if the phone acts as a usb drive and uses the sd card as a folder and not a drive.
[09:45] <frogzoo> can you alt tab between apps in unity?
[09:45] <mathews> pepeleches: after u download check the md5 of ur iso by rightclick and select the md5sum and compare it with that provided in the download page
[09:45] <szal> irreverant: a cellphone is not a card reader; if you don't have one, buy one, they don't cost the world ^^
[09:45] <yabanize> frogzoo yes you can
[09:45] <szal> irreverant: if you can set up the phone to act as a USB mass storage device, that should work
[09:45] <pepeleches> mathews: yes, md5 was tested and passed
[09:45] <uabn93> pepeleches: did you do an md5 checksum just in case?
[09:46] <darkacap> hurm...why my cpu easy to get 100%???
[09:46] <irreverant> let me explain it like this, i would like to use my cell phone as a live cd for a linux distro so that when im at a buddies comp i can use nix instead of windows./
[09:46] <uabn93> pepeleches: If you downloaded from torrent, you don't have to worry about this.
[09:46] <wisien> I want to know how kernel and CPU works, any suggestions?
[09:46] <mathews> irreverant: how could u connect a phone to ur system before it get booted?
[09:46] <theadmin> irreverant: If you can get this phone to work as a USB drive, sure, just use unetbootin.
[09:46] <uabn93> pepeleches: but i've had errors before when downloading from the ubuntu site
[09:46] <pepeleches> first checked MD5 to the *.iso, then to the burnt cd
[09:47] <irreverant> szal: yes the phone can act as a usb mass storage device and treats the sd card as a folder not another independent storage device on any computer i connect it to.
[09:47] <yabanize> Oh if it treats it as a folder then it wont work
[09:47] <darkacap> hurm...why my cpu easy to get 100%???
[09:47] <szal> irreverant: ok, that complicates things
[09:47] <szal> !repeat | darkacap
[09:47] <mathews> pepeleches: what methos u selected for installation? do u have any windows os?
[09:47] <irreverant> szal: see thats what i was wondering...
[09:48] <theadmin> darkacap: Check the process list to see what eats up your CPU, and try closing Firefox :P
[09:48] <yabanize> I find unity not multitasking friendly
[09:48] <anli_> If I get a low vcore voltage, will my system go down? Is there some logfile I can view on this? It a vcore voltage of +0.86 V acceptable?
[09:48] <uabn93> pepeleches: does it at least get to the menu so you can do a disk check?
[09:48] <anli_> I find unity deinstalled
[09:48] <irreverant> cant i just edit the live cd to mount the folder as a drive so that it boots from the folder?
[09:49] <pepeleches> uabn93: nope, it gets stuck before a menu apears
[09:49] <yabanize> irreverant you probably could do that
[09:49] <yabanize> might be hard though, depending on what format the sd card is
[09:49] <irreverant> i believe fat 32
[09:50] <irreverant> or fat 16
[09:50] <uabn93> pepeleches: hmm, i cant help you w/ reading what's on the pictures you posted. I wonder if its your disk drive.
[09:50] <yabanize> i dont know much, im just guessing it wouldnt work\
[09:50] <yabanize> but im not sure about the format thing, give it a go
[09:50] <irreverant> i could format it for nfs
[09:51] <anli_> I have got two panics recently, is there a logfile for panics?
[09:51] <theadmin> irreverant: FAT, FAT32 and ext2 should work for a LiveCD-like boot partition if you're using Unetbootin.
[09:51] <pepeleches> uabn93: ok, thanks anyway... I will try to instal 10.11, and then upgrade to 11.04
[09:51] <uabn93> pepeleches: hey, have you tried usb?
[09:51] <irreverant> ok i
[09:52] <theadmin> anli_: It's some of the /var/log/kernel.log.* files, I think
[09:52] <irreverant> ll look up unetbootin
[09:52] <pepeleches> uabn93:  not yet
[09:52] <yabanize> Smuxi vs Xchat?
[09:52] <meteor> hi
[09:52] <pepeleches> uabn93: goin' to try :)
[09:52] <yabanize> Hi meteor
[09:52] <uabn93> pepeleches: that method must work. Plus, its less of a hassle than upgrading from 10.10
[09:53] <ShaunDreclin> Hey ive got a 500gb ntfs drive i want to install linux on. Whats the best way to give linux a 32gb partition without reformatting?
[09:53] <theadmin> ShaunDreclin: Use GParted (present on our CDs) to resize the existing partition.
[09:53] <anli_> /var/log/kern.log is spammed with "May 17 14:04:27 sysname kernel: [174882.650522] r8169 0000:02:00.0: eth0: link up" lines
[09:53] <irreverant> if your running windows 7 you can just do it from the drive management mmc
[09:54] <mathews> pepeleches: run the live cd and select the start up disk creator and make it and run it and try ..better than a live cd
[09:54] <uabn93> ShaunDreclin: how many partitions are currently present on the drive?
[09:54] <ShaunDreclin> Winxp, and i dont have a working disc drive. Is gparted included in the datastick version?
[09:54] <ShaunDreclin> Just one partition, ntfs
[09:54] <bullgard4> Nautilus shows the directory icons of /var/lib/gdm, /var/lib/mysql and /var/lib/php5 together with an emblem "white skew cross". What does this white skew cross mean?
[09:54] <theadmin> ShaunDreclin: Get EASEUS Partition Master, then.
[09:54] <theadmin> ShaunDreclin: And use that to resize
[09:54] <temp> I've upgraded ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and after that I cant see my grub ('video mode not supported') - I am running liveCD, and trying to edit grub configuration, but I can't see menu.lst where it should be - how can I generate a new one ?
[09:54] <ShaunDreclin> Thanks :D
[09:55] <theadmin> temp: There are no more menu.lst's for a long time
[09:55] <theadmin> temp: It's /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[09:55] <pepeleches> mathews: doing rhigt now :) in a while i will re-log to the irc
[09:55] <uabn93> ShaunDreclin: how are you going to install linux w out a drive then?
[09:55] <mathews> pepeleches: all the best of luck
[09:56] <temp> theadmin: : when I try to edit grub.cfg I see "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE", it has been generated using templates... what should I do then ?
[09:56] <theadmin> uabn93: USB stick, booting the ISO directly, using VirtualBox with a real drive as a host HD...
[09:56] <llutz> temp: you edit /etc/default/grub and run "sudo update-grub" after
[09:56] <theadmin> temp: /etc/default/grub, AFAIR
[09:56] <mathews> temp: run a live cd and copy ur data to an external disk and try a clean install than upgrade
[09:56] <oktay> hi. can someone who has skype tell me the version string 'skype --version' ?
[09:57] <anli_> kern.log does not contain anything about the panic, the spam flood about eth0 is just ended (in 22.01 yesterday)
[09:57] <ShaunDreclin> Uabn93: datastick
[09:57] <pepeleches> mathews: if doesn't work, i'll do the 10.11 -> 11.04 install/upgrade ;) but i will come to tell my experience :)
[09:57] <anli_> Then I can read new entries about the startup this morning
[09:57] <temp> hmm, why is grub so tied to linux ? I even specifically separated hd partition to /boot - why do I have to edit grub options on the other one ?
[09:57] <theadmin> anli_: Hm... Not sure what it is on Ubuntu, bot here I have /var/log/kernel.log.1 and /var/log/kernel.log.2
[09:57] <anli_> No panic.log in my system
[09:57] <anli_> only kern.log
[09:57] <html_inprogress> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J5vldQBKxU&feature=fvsr
[09:57] <chilli0> Hi, I did an update the other day, and now for some reason my SAMBA shares are screwing up from my client. Like it doesn't load, or sometimes it will load for a second and then hang. And also sometimes the web won't work, or like on page will work but I can't load another page. Doesn't matter if I change browser either.
[09:57] <theadmin> anli_: Okay, no idea then
[09:58] <mathews> pepeleches: i think u win the match
[09:58] <anli_> ok
[09:58] <oktay> temp: /boot is not where your boot record is. what is the problem?
[09:58] <uabn93> theadmin: i never knew you could do that w/ virtualbox
[09:58] <novitololo> hi
[09:58] <temp> oktay: there probably is no problem, just curious why the options werent on /boot
[09:58] <theadmin> uabn93: VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -rawdisk /dev/sda -filename lol.vdi
[09:58] <anli_> I get the impression that no log is created on a kernel panic
[09:59] <novitololo> I'm getting unrar fail when trying to unrar folders that contain accents (for example: á) in their names.  Any thoughts what can I do?
[09:59] <oktay> temp: grub is something i don't mess with as long as it's working :)
[09:59] <oktay> when you do have to mess with it, it's not pretty
[09:59] <JohnT> Bulk rename them novitololo
[09:59] <novitololo> I just have the .rar file
[09:59] <temp> yeah, I followed the same policy, but ubuntu upgrade made it not work
[09:59] <novitololo> can I rename them from the inside?
[10:00] <oktay> temp: did the disk UUIDs change?
[10:00] <temp> nope
[10:00] <mathews> temp: try it as upgrade creates hassles
[10:00] <theadmin> Hint: don't use /dev/disk/by-uuid/, it's not pretty, use by-label.
[10:00] <novitololo> JohnT could you be a little bit more specific?
[10:01] <razz1> i am using xsane for the first time, I am scanning an important document, I need it to be high res, which file format should  I save it to, the default is pnm?
[10:01] <ph88> When i try to connect my phone (Nokia N900) with usb to ubuntu 11.04 tethering doesn't work because when i try to make the connection it immediately disconnects, need help
[10:01] <yabanize> How do i turn on more of the effects, like the wobbily windows (it used to be called extra in display options)
[10:01] <temp> i'll try, thanks for the tip - what I suspect right now is that new ubuntu 11.04 uses newer version of grub than 10.04, and it made it mess up
[10:01] <Guest89987> I seem to have a problem with my Ubuntu 10.04 installation - The speakers of my laptop don't give a sound, while any plugged in speaker/headphones will, so the sound card seems unaffected. However, sound works in 10.10 and up, but I don't want to use those as they can't properly read the charge data of my battery-
[10:01] <theadmin> yabanize: You need simple-ccsm
[10:02] <ashesh> temp: I think you're right about GRUB, it did upgrade grub during my OS upgrade from 10.04
[10:02] <chilli0> Hi, I did an update the other day, and now for some reason my SAMBA shares are screwing up from my client. Like it doesn't load, or sometimes it will load for a second and then hang. And also sometimes the web won't work, or like on page will work but I can't load another page. Doesn't matter if I change browser either.
[10:02] <yabanize> So older versions didnt need it, theadmin
[10:02] <mathews> guest89987: select the "sound" from the menu and check the volume is muted or not
[10:02] <Guest89987> it isn't ;) That'd be too easy
[10:03] <theadmin> yabanize: Who knows, it could just no longer come as default xd
[10:03] <Guest89987> it's on full fling, yet does not give a beep.
[10:03] <mathews> guest89987: run the "additional drivers: from system
[10:03] <theadmin> Wow, I had like 3 flash upgrades during recent weeks, did they finally decide to make it work? xD
[10:03] <yabanize> I clicked install and it came up with :Package dependencies cannot be resolved
[10:04] <theadmin> yabanize: Ugh. Also try it with compizconfig-settings-manager, but I can't really help you more since Ubuntu people love to mess their repositories up :/
[10:05] <temp> I'm surprised grub is so tied to linux, to the point when it uses options from other partitions and can be updated by it unknowingly to the user. I wont troll, but I used to blame windows for overwriting boot sector.
[10:05] <Guest89987> Only shows GPU and WiFi card. As I've said, the sound card itself seems to work properly, it works with plugged in devices (Headphones), but not with the speakers of the laptop itself.
[10:05] <theadmin> yabanize: I also think the latest Ubuntu doesn't actually use Compiz anymore
[10:05] <ph88> i did this: http://anidel.blogspot.com/2009/10/n900-as-modem-for-ubuntu-910.html   but connection isnt being established ! :(
[10:06] <theadmin> temp: It's not GRUB's fault, it's how it's made in Ubuntu :D
[10:06] <theadmin> temp: Here on Arch, everything GRUB-related *is* under /boot/grub.
[10:06] <oktay> temp: grub is what linux installs as a boot loader. you can use another bootloader that is more tied into windows if you like
[10:06] <mathews> guest89987: look any related post in ubuntu launchpad or www.askubuntu.com
[10:06] <ashesh> theadmin: what? It does use Compiz. I solved a frame rate issue on my ATI Radeon laptop by unselecting 'sync to vblank' inside CompizConfig settings manager.
[10:06] <uabn93> Guest89987: what about sound preferences>hardware tab> then changing the profile tab.
[10:07] <temp> I see, ok thanks for all the answers.
[10:07] <oktay> somebody post their skype version pretty please
[10:07] <mathews> theadmin: it more clear in gnome or ubuntu with no effects
[10:07] <yabanize> theadmin: thanks that worked
[10:08] <rinchan> hay guys any one tell abt music composer
[10:08] <theadmin> mathews, ashesh: Well, I'm an Arch+KDE user so I dunno how Ubuntu, Gnome and Compiz are really doing these days. Still do try to help though
[10:08] <uabn93> Guest89987: I meant changing the profile section to the device you have. try using different options.
[10:08] <Guest89987> nothing there either. All switched on :-/ A real mystery, that. It works with newer versions, so it HAS to be some form of software issue. :O
[10:08] <mathews> oktay: skype 2.2
[10:09] <Guest89987> Yeah, checked that. Does not change anything
[10:09] <ashesh> theadmin: hmmm, after the latest GNOME release and to be very honest the mess Ubuntu Unity is right now, KDE/XFCE make more sense to me
[10:09] <oktay> mathews: <IP_ADDRESS> ? 'skype --version'
[10:09] <theadmin> ashesh: GNOME 3 was so damn weird o.O
[10:09] <ashesh> theadmin: I switched immediately to XFCE after my upgrade.
[10:09] <ashesh> theadmin: navigation is a PIA!
[10:09] <uabn93> Guest89987: you said your headphones worked?
[10:09] <oktay> xfce4/xmonad here
[10:09] <Guest89987> <
[10:09] <Guest89987> yeah
[10:09] <oktay> i am not jumping on the gnome shell / unity bandwagon
[10:10] <mathews> oktay: <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (skype
[10:10] <Doomnet> hi ^^
[10:10] <theadmin> ashesh: I think that's offtopic here, so let's switch to PM, shall we :D
[10:10] <oktay> mathews: thanks !
[10:10] <Guest89987> Headphones, external speakers, even the TV speakers when hooking it up to a TV with split screen
[10:10] <darkacap> ermm...my cpu becomes very hot...does someone know why it is happened?
[10:10] <mathews> oktay: if u try from software center this is the version or u can add the PPA for it if u want latest version
[10:11] <oktay> mathews: thanks. i don't have access to my ubuntu now. comparing with arch.
[10:11] <Guest89987> darkacap : Maybe it constantly runs at maximum core clock, that might make it overheat.
[10:11] <mathews> darkacap:check ur fan working well
[10:11] <ashesh> theadmin: sure :-)
[10:11] <theadmin> Actually, what does Ubuntu use in place of good old /etc/init.d/ these days?
[10:12] <darkacap> mathews: my fan is working...and i can hear the fan's spin...
[10:12] <uabn93> Guest89987: thats strange. I had that same problem and messing with profile section fixed it for me.
[10:12] <gelbander> hi, does anyone experience that the "over menu bar" disappear in every window u have open?
[10:13] <darkacap> guest89987: how to solve the problem?
[10:13] <Guest89987> darkacap: There's a panel applet that lets you control the several core clocking stages of your CPU - see if it's permanently at 100%
[10:13] <darkacap> guest89987: ermmm...can you show me how to open the applet...sorry...im new to ubuntu...
[10:13] <Guest89987> uabn93: Glad to hear I'm not the only one. Unfortunately, it doesn't work for me :/ But that's a start, anyhow.
[10:14] <theadmin> oktay: Another arch user huh? I seem to be not alone xD
[10:14] <oktay> new install. 2-3 days
[10:14] <oktay> i like it so far
[10:14] <oktay> i also have mint debian
[10:14] <Guest89987> darkacap: right click on the top panel bar, hit "Add to panel" and select the "CPU frequency scaling monitor"
[10:15] <theadmin> oktay: Mint is yummy, but Arch is the best for my rather slow system
[10:15] <theadmin> oktay: It seems that stuff slows down on other distros cause of their awkward package management.
[10:16] <uabn93> Guest89987: most of the time, google is a better friend than irc in some situations.
[10:16] <its__> Hey guys.. My HDMI audio (NVIDIA) isn't working for me.. No system audio at all
[10:16] <its__> I've done aplay -l to find the devices
[10:16] <its__> It shows 4 nvidia devices (3,7,8,9)
[10:16] <its__> So I tested, and aplay -D plughw:1,7 im.wav gave me sound
[10:16] <oktay> theadmin: they are a bit more polished though. don't have to deal with assigning default apps and litlte stuff like that
[10:16] <its__> But how do I config ubuntu (10.04) to use that device?
[10:16] <theadmin> oktay: I like configuring everything manually.
[10:16] <Guest89987> uabn93: Normally, yes. But putting in "CQ56 Ubuntu sound issues" only leads me to countless shop sites with written reviews :D
[10:17] <oktay> theadmin: i do too. and i will do it once then keep rolling rolling
[10:17] <theadmin> oktay: Speaking of rolling, rolling releases ftw xD Anyway, let's switch to PM
[10:17]  * oktay blushes
[10:17] <Guest89987> darkacap: found it?
[10:18] <theadmin> oktay: ?
[10:18] <szal> theadmin, oktay: #archlinux exists :P
[10:18] <darkacap> guest89987: nope...i cannot find 'add to panel'
[10:18] <its__> No one to help?
[10:18] <theadmin> szal: Also a support channel, and #archlinux-offtopic is meh
[10:19] <oktay> :)
[10:19] <szal> theadmin: try #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[10:19] <Guest89987> darkacap: the panels are the top and bottom bars, similar to the Start-bar on Windows
[10:19] <uabn93> Guest89987: my last suggestion would be to try the #linux channel. great ppl there.
[10:19] <theadmin> szal: Isn't it a channel where they all speak about aliens and conspirancy theories?
[10:19] <szal> theadmin: no idea, haven't been there much
[10:19] <Guest89987> darkacap: You right click on those, which gives you the option to "add to panel"
[10:19] <szal> theadmin: my favourite Linux distro offtopic channel is #opensuse-chat
[10:20] <theadmin> szal: Hm, thanks, I also used to be a SUSE fan earlier
[10:21] <Guest89987> darkacap: working now?
[10:22] <guru1004_> is there a command to turn off the ethernet card (eth0) ?
[10:23] <r0fs3ck5> ifconfig -eth0 down?
[10:23] <r0fs3ck5> mark7845: or do you want to disable it at the hardware level?
[10:24] <VictorCL2> the volume control is not working properly .. on 10.04 ..when I click the , when I move the white circle to raise or lower the volume .. it skips to the right .. raising the volumeee  :/
[10:24] <guru1004_> r04s3ck5: was that answer for me?  i want to disable at the hardware level.
[10:24] <VictorCL2> is like not detecting correctly the mouse pointer
[10:25] <r0fs3ck5> guru1004_: hmm not sure on that one.  You may be able to turn it off in the BIOS if you're lucky.
[10:25] <its__> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10830940#post10830940 can you help me?
[10:26] <guru1004_> i saw the command for wireless -> iwconfig wlan0 power off
[10:26] <guru1004_> r0fs3ck5 -> yeah don't want to disable it in the bios, but that is certainly better than nothing
[10:28] <darkacap> guest89987: when i right click the bar...nothing comes out
[10:29] <r0fs3ck5> guru1004_: try sudo ifconfig wth0 power off.
[10:29] <r0fs3ck5> r0fs3ck5: I'm not sure if your device, motherboard or kernel supports it, but give it a go.
[10:30] <moses_> is the windows manager the thing that shows the monitors?
[10:30] <r0fs3ck5> eth0 rather
[10:30] <moses_> the monitor preferences
[10:30] <moses_> whats that done through?
[10:30] <darkacap> ?
[10:30] <moses_> my monitor preferences only show 1 monitor
[10:31] <tdn> What to do in order to make Sun Java work in Firefox/Opera, etc? I need this to use online bank.
[10:32] <minimec> guru1004_: you probably have to blacklist your eth0 device with in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf. iwconfig is only for wifi devices and the option 'power' is the power managment of a wifi device...
[10:33] <moses_> darkacap, ?
[10:33] <Noorman> Hi all, is there a way to bridge wlan0 and eth0 in 11.04?
[10:33] <sunson> 1. What is the impact of too many TIME_WAIT connections on the performace of a web server (with huge number of short-lived connections)? 2. What is the impact of increasing tcp_max_syn_backlog kernel setting?
[10:33] <Noorman> brctl does not allow wlan0 to be added
[10:34] <darkacap> moses: windows manager???
[10:36] <moses_> darkacap, i cant get programs to go from my left monitor to my right
[10:36] <moses_> it just hits a wall at the edge of my left monitor
[10:36] <moses_> but both are on
[10:36] <moses_> and i can move the mouse to them both
[10:37] <moses_> any ideas?
[10:37] <darkacap> moses: sorry...im new to ubuntu...^_^
[10:38] <darkacap> ....why my cpu always above 13%..or is it normal???
[10:38] <darkacap> can someone answer it...^_^
[10:40] <darkacap> hurmmm
[10:43] <Guest89987> darkacap: So you got the applet working? It shows activity higher than 13% permanently?
[10:43] <minimec> darkacap: Could you verify that in a console with 'top'. The gnome-system-monitor will use most of your 'idle' cpu usage. Press '1' in top, if you have multiple CPU.
[10:44] <darkacap> guest89987: i open the system monitor...and it shows cpu 13%(minimum)
[10:45] <darkacap> minimec: i have single cpu only
[10:45] <minimec> darkacap: So just 'top in a console...
[10:45] <cousin_mario> hello
[10:45] <minimec> darkacap: top
[10:46] <rayvtirx> ok guys  and girls, i was playing about with my ubuntu 11.04 server (upgraded from 1010) and i installed ubuntu-desktop using apt-get,i thought it would be as easy as apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop but that just removes 1 16kb file, any ideas?
[10:46] <Guest89987> darkacap: That's the CPU usage, not the frequency. 13% is probably normal depending on what sort of CPU you use, considering you're using IRC right now
[10:46] <rayvtirx> sorry wrote that wrong
[10:46] <rayvtirx> i now wish to remove  ubuntu-desktop
[10:47] <cousin_mario> Window gadgets sometimes don't work and the ones of the window in the back get clicked instead (ubuntu 11.04/64 bit, using gnome classic). Any ideas?
[10:47] <darkacap> minimec: ok
[10:49] <mathews> rayvtrix: what u mean by ubuntu-desktop
[10:50] <moses_> anyone know why my monitor preferences wont pick up my second monitor
[10:51] <Noorman> Hi all, is there a way to bridge wlan0 and eth0 in 11.04?
[10:51] <darkacap> guest89987: owh...i see...
[10:51] <Noorman> brctl does not allow wlan0 to be added
[10:51] <rayvtirx> i was running ubuntu server, and i saw that you could install ubuntu desktop with sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop , so i did to try it :s thinking it would be as simple as apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktp to get rid of it
[10:52] <rayvtirx> but that only gets rid of a 64kb sized file
[10:52] <darkacap> guest89987: by the way....when i want to scroll down in the firefox...it scrolls very slow...why?
[10:53] <darkacap> guest89987: especially when i open youtube...
[10:54] <Guest89987> darkacap: could it be that your Graphics adapter has no driver installed, so the CPU has to take care of everything?
[10:54] <anli_> what I experience when scrolling down firefox is that the window hangs for a while, then the scrolling is performed
[10:54] <darkacap> guest89987: ermm...so how to solve it?
[10:55] <Guest89987> check that at "System>Administration>Hardware drivers". This shows you the available third-party drivers
[10:55] <moses_> anyone know how to get dual monitors to work with an nvidia card?
[10:56] <constl> top
[10:56] <mathews> rayvtrix: i think there no desktop for server edition. try type gdm and look what happends
[10:56] <Guest89987> moses: Is multimonitoring turned on in the driver menu? Sometimes it does not register straight away by itself
[10:57] <rayvtirx> mathews: erm wel i managed to install one lol
[10:57] <deployment> Anyone know of any network monitor software.  To be used like a dashboard to monitor PING,SNMP etc all the time and aleart via email or GUI when required.
[10:57] <darkacap> guest89987: is it under control  center>hardware>additional drivers??
[10:58] <mathews> rayvtrix: see the ubuntu documenatation for server edition,I think there no way
[10:58] <constl> Hello, i've been experiencing a lot of CPU spikes and stalls using a fresh install of Natty in a duo core 2.2 with 4 GiB and ssd. In specific i see that XOrg (in top) consumes a lot of CPU power all the time. Any hints?
[10:58] <Guest89987> darkacap: In 11.04, yes
[10:59] <darkacap> guest89987: its empty
[10:59] <Guest89987> odd: what GPU does your system have?
[10:59] <Guest89987> Integrated INTEL, Nvidia or AMD ?
[10:59] <rchavik> how do i make bash completion work again with subdirs prefixed with environment variable, eg: 'cd $SOMEDIR/subdir'
[10:59] <html_inprogress> constl,  me to ,,, i think its something to do with the update to day
[10:59] <darkacap> guest89987: integrated intel
[11:00] <constl> html_inprogress: I've been experiencing this for over 2 weeks.
[11:00] <constl> Does it have to do with graphics drivers?
[11:00] <darkacap> guest89987: mobile intel graphic media accelerator x3100
[11:00] <Guest89987> Alright then, no wonder it's empty. But that also means it works and does not explain your slow page buildup. Odd
[11:01] <mathews> rayvtrix: see this link and get an idea  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/gui-for-ubuntu-server-463053/
[11:02] <darkacap> guest89987: so...do i have to install the driver?
[11:03] <Guest89987> no, you don't. It's installed already. Otherwise it would show up there.
[11:03] <constl> Is simple-ccsm dependencies broken for anyone else?
[11:03] <karthick87> Is it possible to create a launcher for rdesktop in desktop ?
[11:03] <darkacap> guest89987: owh ok...hurm...
[11:04] <Guest89987> yeah, i'm baffled now as well, so... :/
[11:04] <moses_> anyone know a good soundblaster driver for ubuntu?
[11:07] <szal> moses_: legacy sound drivers built into the kernel should work w/o issues
[11:07] <Chris_H> HI, whenevr I try to set a VPN connection, it fails and gives out the error VPN Connection was not provided by any settings service
[11:07] <Chris_H> It used to work in Kubuntu
[11:08] <Chris_H> Please hlp
[11:08] <Chris_H> *help
[11:09] <moses_> szal, these are terrible
[11:09] <szal> moses_: how so?
[11:09] <arvut> Hi.. I am stuck in the 11.04 installation cause I removed a lvm group (manual partitioning) but not the 3 logical volumes in it. I need to modify those volumes in order to continue the installation.
[11:10] <moses_> it sounds terrible when put through
[11:10] <moses_> i cant tell if there are two many layers
[11:10] <moses_> because its an uncompressed movie
[11:11] <arvut> right now I get an error saying that it can't modify the volumes cause they belong to a group that doesnt exist
[11:11] <arvut> lovely, huh?
[11:11] <temp> where's the file that grub uses for each operating system/kernel ? that what used to be menu.lst - i tried /etc/grub/default ,but I see only options there, no lines with each kernel options etc
[11:11] <jrib> !grub2 | temp
[11:11] <rayvtirx> how about if i reinstall ubuntu server from disk without changing the partitions?
[11:12] <jrib> rayvtirx: what about it?
[11:12] <rayvtirx> i was running ubuntu server, and i saw that you could install ubuntu desktop with sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop , so i did to try itthinking it would be as simple as apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktp to get rid of it
[11:12] <jrib> rayvtirx: it should be
[11:13] <iceroot> rayvtirx: !purekde (only use the part to remove gnome)
[11:13] <iceroot> !purekde | rayvtirx
[11:13] <JediMaster> ok, stupid one, I've just setup two ubuntu 11.04 natty machines and neither of them will remember their hostname, any idea what's going on? I set them using: hostname myhost.domain.tld; echo "myhost.domain.tld" > /etc/hostname
[11:13] <JediMaster> yet after rebooting it looses the hostname and reverts the previous one
[11:13] <JediMaster> never had this issue with any version of ubuntu previously
[11:13] <jrib> JediMaster: verify you actually changed the contents of /etc/hostname (also, you need to update /etc/hosts)
[11:14] <JediMaster> jrib: yes, it's in there
[11:14] <JediMaster> even after reboot
[11:14] <JediMaster> I've recursively grepped through the entire /etc/ and the only thing with the original hostnames is the ssh host keys in /etc/ssh/ssh_host...
[11:14] <jrib> JediMaster: don't know then.  See if there's some way to change it through network manager
[11:14] <JediMaster> jrib: ubuntu server, no X
[11:15] <_ruben> dhcp might be overriding your hostname
[11:15] <JediMaster> ahh, yes, that's it
[11:15] <JediMaster> the reverse dns will take 24 hours to update
[11:15] <JediMaster> good thinking _ruben
[11:15] <cousin_mario> bbl
[11:16] <pdev> Is there any way to restrict users, not to use "number" at the starting of their password?
[11:16] <JediMaster> I've already changed the rdns entry, any way to stop dhcp from auto-assigning the hostname?
[11:16] <_ruben> JediMaster: read 'man dhclient3' ? :)
[11:16] <JediMaster> yeah, I guess heh, thanks
[11:17] <jrib> pdev: look into pam; don't know how easy that is to achieve
[11:17] <alex88[nb]> hi guys, my 11.04 install just screwed up, i get like low graphics login screen and this is the desktop http://i.imgur.com/HbAcC.png
[11:17] <arvut> how do I remove unallocated logical volumes?
[11:17] <rayvtirx> unfortunately there is no manual instructions for 11.04
[11:17] <pdev> yes I have made some policies using pam_cracklib
[11:17] <arvut> that are part of a lvm vg
[11:18] <alex88[nb]> alse when i reduce to icon a folder the image of the folder sticks on the desktop
[11:18] <pdev> like using of Uppercase, lowercase, number, special charactors etc in the password
[11:18] <pdev> but not finding a way to achive this
[11:19] <pdev> anybody can help on PAM topic?
[11:19] <infobit> alex88[nb], try logging in with gnome
[11:20] <alex88[nb]> infobit: ok let me try
[11:21] <arvut> must say the 11.04 dvd starts really fast compared to ealier versions
[11:21] <arvut> ubuntu user dvd that is
[11:23] <arvat> whay ubuntu do not try to do more light desktop?
[11:23] <jesus_> hi
[11:23] <alex88[nb]> infobit: unable to load session 'gnome', btw after login it says system load problems, report or cancel, and if it should change the user home folder names to be correct with language..
[11:23] <jesus_> does anyone her use epsxe?
[11:23] <jesus_> here*
[11:24] <infobit> alex88[nb], PM?
[11:24] <szal> arvat: if you want a light option, try Xubuntu (XFce) or Lubuntu (LXDE)
[11:24] <alex88[nb]> infobit: PM?
[11:25] <bolt12> whats the short cut to show the desktop
[11:25] <bolt12> in ubuntu 11.04
[11:25] <guru1004_> using powertop and was told: Enable USB autosuspend for non-input devices.  How does one do that?
[11:26] <arvat> szal you do not understand, i want the functionallity of kde but lightness of gnome
[11:27] <szal> arvat: Gnome light?  are you kidding?
[11:27] <szal> Gnome is no lighter than KDE
[11:28] <szal> also, if you want KDE, use KDE..  features come at a payload, that's how it is
[11:28] <arvat> szal: i meen the simplicity of gnome
[11:28] <beta0x64> arvat: just install both window managers and have fun
[11:28] <infobit> arvat, the use kde 3.4 or some older version kde than 4.0 something
[11:29] <szal> "simplicity" is highly subjective..  for me, e.g., Gnome just doesn't fit the bill, I don't find my way around it, plus it lacks some features
[11:29] <szal> infobit: KDE3 is dead
[11:29] <arvut> kde4 or unity?
[11:30] <interglacial> xfce must be realy popular now
[11:31] <REK> hello guys I am using the ubuntu tweak on ubuntu 11.04
[11:31] <REK> but the convert image to JPG is not working
[11:31] <infobit> arvut, kde 4 also try unity
[11:31] <REK> any possible solutions?
[11:32] <arvut> interglacial: I am tempted to try it. tested 10.10 64-bit in xfce from a live dvd, gonna install it along with 11.04 unity
[11:32] <szal> REK: "not working" is NOT a precise error description
[11:32] <head_victim> Anyone have any information on BluRay playback that isn't several years old? The RestrictedFormats page seems a little out of date on the topic.
[11:33] <REK> szal: previously it used to make another file of the JPG format on its own on 10.10 . But now nothing happens
[11:33] <Suki> Hello World
[11:37] <adam61> i just got my tascam us122 set up and everything's working great except for one thing, there's no sound in flash (i'm assuming that's what google chrome uses to play youtube videos). does anyone know about this?
[11:38] <lispmachines> Greetings, I have a desktop running 10.04 and apache. How do I make apache work with ipv4?
[11:39] <moses_> has anyone in here ever installed a sound card driver (tar) file in ubuntu?
[11:39] <adam61> moses: i just did that; what soundcard do you have?
[11:39] <moses_> X-Fi soundblaster
[11:39] <moses_> its a POS
[11:39] <moses_> but w/e
[11:40] <paulo_> how do i create a disk image from a usb?
[11:40] <paulo_> usb flash drive, that is
[11:40] <paulo_> google is giving me wrong results
[11:42] <moses_> adam61, ?
[11:42] <adam61> moses: i was hoping you were going to say tascam lol.. i don't understand how to do that myself, i just googled how to and followed the instructions. here's the link that worked for me if it's of any help to you in understanding it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TASCAM_US-122  and  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1692289
[11:42] <rayvtirx> well i think i got it thanks for your help :)
[11:43] <adam61> moses: someone should be able to help you though, this channel's good
[11:43] <moses_> how did you install it though
[11:43] <moses_> are insall instructions in here?
[11:43] <moses_> install
[11:43] <adam61> moses: i don't quite understand the question.. i just followed the instructions without quite understanding what i was doing and it worked. do you have a more specific question?
[11:44] <moses_> where did you extract the tarbul
[11:44] <moses_> the tar file
[11:44] <adam61> k just a sec
[11:44] <wmp> hello, i have big problem with ext4, after try to resise this, i have: http://pastebin.com/TP33VNim
[11:45] <adam61> moses: if you read the first link i sent you carefully, you will undersand it. what you are asking is step 6
[11:45] <leomanfx> hi there
[11:45] <adam61> moses: sorry, step 4
[11:45] <apter> where can i learn terminal commands? (total noob on linux)
[11:46] <adam61> read the preamble
[11:46] <jrib> !cli | apter
[11:46] <adam61> to that step
[11:50] <abys> Hi all
[11:51] <adam61> hmm anyone know why it shut down xchat twice in a row when i tried to open the ##flash channel?
[11:51] <abys> I'm trying to give a user the possibility to run apt-get without sudo, how can I manage to do that? Thx :)
[11:52] <arvut> I managed to get rid of those naughty lvm vg partitions. booted into the livecd and erased them from there. couldn't do it from the textbased install..
[11:52] <arvut> I'm not sure what I think of unity yet.. I do like gnome a lot tho.
[11:53] <adam61> maybe someone here can answer my question: how do i fix no sound in flash if everything else is working ok? i'm using ubuntu 11.04 and chrome
[11:53] <SudoKing> abys, if i may ask, what's wrong with sudo?
[11:53] <awells> abys: you will need to use sudo, but you can configure it so that sudo only allows them access to apt-get
[11:53] <arvut> might give that xfce a try after all. is it seletable from the login screen after I've installed ubuntu 11.04?
[11:54] <abys> SudoKing I need to authenticate to a proxy and root is not part of the domain, so I can't authenticate with sudo....
[11:54] <sahilsk> Hello there.
[11:54] <arvut> Hi
[11:55] <abys> SudoKing I add the computer to my domain with likewise and use a domain admin user, that the way my proxy authenticate
[11:55] <interglacial> XFCE is the future
[11:55] <sahilsk> I've just started exploring ubuntu and while looking for "how to run script on system boot" i come across rc.d files. can anyone explain me what this file actually does? Apart from it, when i look into my /etc dir i find rc0.1, rc1.d and many more.A brief explaination would be great.
[11:56] <arvut> unity appears to use the same system as mac OSX for menus
[11:56] <root> jjj
[11:56] <abys> awells thanks but still have to get rid of it ^_^
[11:56] <giulio800> shit
[11:57] <giulio800> hi man??
[11:58] <arvut> !ot > giulio800
[11:59] <abys> Any suggestion guys? :)
[12:03] <rob_p> abys: You can give a user the ability to use *just* apt-get via sudo, but for some unknown reason, you don't want to use sudo! What have you against it?
[12:05] <abys> rob_p if I use sudo it use the user root which is not part os the domain. My proxy authenticate with domain users so it's why I have to launch the command with a domain user...
[12:07] <awells> abys, can you place it behind an apt-cache server running as a domain user?
[12:08] <abys> awells what do you mean? Tell me more about that :)
[12:10] <VictorCL2> what is the best subversion client .. similar to tortoise in windows .. but for ubuntu?
[12:11] <abhilashm86> VictorCL2: collabnet subversion works in ubuntu
[12:12] <abys> awells I have to go to lunch, if you could PM me and I catch you back with a full belly? :) Thx man
[12:13] <awells> abys, no problem
[12:13] <adam61> does anyone know why i'm not getting sound in flash? or why xchat closes when i go to the ##flash channel?
[12:17] <Cube``> how can i install sqlite3 for python2.5?
[12:17] <Cube``> on 11.04
[12:18] <jrib> Cube``: apt-cache search -n python sqlite
[12:19] <Cube``> jrib: yes ofc there is python-sqlite3, but im looking for sqlite3 for python*2-5*
[12:19] <Cube``> 2.5
[12:19] <Cube``> not 2.7
[12:20] <jrib> Cube``: how did you install python 2.5?
[12:20] <Phil_Ewert> hi together, upgraded to 11.04 yesterday and have crashes of kernel + unity all the time since. Try to switch to gnome-panel now. In System Settings=>Login Screen=>Default Session I switch to "Ubuntu Classic". Reboot. It still boots into Unity (and not gdm). Any Ideas ?
[12:20] <thegoodcushion> Phil_Ewert: your installation is borked
[12:20] <fallfkd> If I  update against natty-security on archive.ubuntu.com, is there any reason to still update against natty-security on security.ubuntu.com?
[12:21] <Phil_Ewert> thegoodcushion, what does borked mean ?
[12:21] <Phil_Ewert> broken ?
[12:21] <thegoodcushion> rooted
[12:21] <thegoodcushion> kaput
[12:21] <thegoodcushion> uh oh spaghetti-o
[12:21] <thegoodcushion> yes, broken
[12:21] <szal> correct spelling would be "b0rked" -> l33tsp34k for "broken"
[12:22] <szal> ;)
[12:22] <Phil_Ewert> thegoodcushion, hmmm, upgrade went fine and fast without errors
[12:22] <thegoodcushion> Phil_Ewert: I hear you, but it's obviously broken
[12:22] <Phil_Ewert> thegoodcushion, ok, yes and it cant be fixed ?
[12:23] <thegoodcushion> just reinstall it
[12:23] <bazhang> thegoodcushion, thats not good advice
[12:23] <bazhang> Phil_Ewert, try to start up in recovery mode
[12:24] <Phil_Ewert> bazhang, what would you suggest ?
[12:24] <Phil_Ewert> allright
[12:24] <karthick87> Is it possible to create a launcher for rdesktop in desktop ?
[12:24] <Phil_Ewert> will try that
[12:25] <bazhang> karthick87, right click create launcher
[12:26] <garu01> im having trouble executing opengl progms any help??
[12:27] <garu01> ?
[12:27] <thegoodcushion> I just installed realtek firmware on 10.04.  How do I tell whether or not it's being used?  My NIC is still not working?
[12:27] <jrib> garu01: you should be more specific
[12:27] <bazhang> thegoodcushion, installed how
[12:27] <thegoodcushion> bazhang: from the website, as a sh script
[12:28] <garu01> jrib Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:28] <garu01> freeglut (./a.out): OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0'
[12:28] <garu01> i get that when i use the ./a.out
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> garu01:  you have installed theproper 3d drvers for your video card?
[12:28] <jrib> garu01: what video driver?
[12:29] <garu01> jrib ubuntu automatically installed all drivers for me
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> garu01:  and your video chipset is what?
[12:29] <garu01> nvidia geforce 540 m
[12:30] <arvut> !info aptitude
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> garu01:  you may want to run the addational drivers tool and see if there are some better drivers for the card.
[12:31] <arvut> *wonders why aptitude isn't installed by default anymore*
[12:31] <bazhang> arvut, disk space
[12:31] <jrib> arvut: precious space on the cd
[12:31] <arvut> meh..
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> arvut:  disk size and lack of people needing it.
[12:31] <garu01> Dr_Willis: i have the additional drivers installed also
[12:31]  * jrib NEEDS it :P
[12:31] <Cube``> guys help me out please :( http://paste.pocoo.org/show/391135/
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> garu01:  run the nvidia-settings tool to see if its actuallybeing used.
[12:32] <Cube``> what am i missing?
[12:32] <garu01> Dr_Willis: im kinda new to this linux environment.. how exactly do i do that
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> Cube``:  you could summarize the problem.
[12:32] <jrib> Cube``: you never answered my question (how did you install python 2.5?).  And in your pastebin, you don't give any context as to what you are doing/trying to accomplish
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> gardar:  its in themenus some where. or run 'nvidia-settings' from a terminal
[12:33] <arvut> is there a way to configure unity to have the file menus on the actual window instead of up there at the taskbar like OSX does?
[12:33] <Cube``> Dr_Willis: jrib: im trying to compile python2.5 on ubuntu 11.04 so i can get web2py to work with google app engine.
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> arvut:  you can disable/tweak the 'global menu' settings  so it can have them in the window.. or in both i recall.
[12:33] <garu01> Dr_Willis: ou do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[12:33] <laumonier> what is the command to get pass to the new version to ubuntu from an older???
[12:34] <jrib> laumonier: you want to upgrade to a new ubuntu release?
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> garu01:  that would be the root of the problem then.
[12:34] <Cube``> Dr_Willis: jrib: basically im missing sqlite3 support for python2.5. i got python2.5 installed from a PPA, but it doesnt have sqlite3
[12:34] <laumonier> yes
[12:34] <garu01> Dr_Willis: how do i solve this problem
[12:34] <laumonier> new release
[12:34] <laumonier> 11.4
[12:34] <arvut> I dislike these mac clone modifications that has been done to ubuntu. first the close/minimize/maximize buttons and now this
[12:34] <jrib> Cube``: if you have python 2.5, why are you compiling it now?
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> Cube``:  ive seen some peolle mention using differnt pythin versions on the askubuntu.com site. but i never mess with python
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> garu01:  run that addational-drivers tool again, and see if you can click 'activate' and reboot the box.
[12:35] <Cube``> Dr_Willis: jrib: google app engine needs python2.5. i have it installed from a ppa. but it lacks sqlite3, which g. app engine needs. how can i fix that?
[12:35] <szal> arvut: from what I gather, Unity/Gnome3 is explicitly designed to mimick OSX
[12:35] <arvut> Dr_Willis: good, any idea on how to do it? or should I start googling?
[12:35] <thegoodcushion> szal: mimic is a bit strong
[12:35] <LjL> arvut: probably if you remove the indicator-appmenu package the menus will be back in the windows, but no guarantees, i haven't tried
[12:35] <arvut> szal: yeah, appears so..
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> arvut:  the webupd8 blog site has a guide on 11.04 tweaking that covers it
[12:35] <thegoodcushion> how do I tell whether my realtek firmware is being used?  I installed it manually
[12:36] <jrib> Cube``: install sqlite3 module for python.  Use apt-get build-dep with the python sqlite version in the repositories (as the dependencies are likely the same).  Then install the module using whatever method you want (call setup.py directly, use easy_install, or use pip (did pip exist for 2.5?))
[12:36] <szal> thegoodcushion: I heard someone say the other day that they even exactly copied some "key" icon (i.e. an icon showing keys, for keyring or ssh)
[12:36] <Cube``> jrib: i have sqlite3 for python2.7, but i need it for for 2.5
[12:36] <jrib> Cube``: yes, I know
[12:37] <Cube``> jrib: ah ok? so its possible with build-dep?
[12:37] <paulo_> i just installed partclone. where do i find it?
[12:37] <jrib> Cube``: it's possible with what I said before
[12:37] <jrib> Cube``: make sure you install it to your python2.5 installation, not the default ubuntu one
[12:37] <arand> paulo_: It is likely a command-line tool
[12:37] <paulo_> arand: it's not
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> paulo_:  it may be a cli only app.
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> paulo_:  run it from a terminal and see
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> !info partclone
[12:38] <Cube``> jrib: where do i define that?
[12:38] <arand> paulo_: It is, ncurses-based
[12:38] <Cube``> jrib: where do i dfine which installation?
[12:38] <Nick_Meister> hi guys for some reason i found gnash installed on my system which caused all of the flash streaming except youtube not work
[12:38] <garu01> Dr_Willis: i use netbeans 6.9 for my  programming. iv installed the relevant libraries but i still get an error for all opengl functions used in the pgm.
[12:38] <Nick_Meister> so i purged it
[12:38] <arvut> I must say, the new workspace switcher in gnome3/unity is really nice.. been thinking of a workspace switcher much like this new one for months. I'd love to see it in 3d like the safari startscreeen tho (thats about the only part of OSX that I actually like)
[12:38] <Nick_Meister> how do i get the non free flash back on my ubuntu 11.04
[12:39] <jrib> Cube``: well if you are calling setup.py, say "python2.5 setup.py" and not "python setup.py"
[12:39] <bazhang> arvut, chat/commentary in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:39] <Nick_Meister> installing flashplugin-nonfree doesnt seem to help
[12:39] <arand> Nick_Meister: Remove and reinstall flashplugin-installer
[12:39] <jrib> !flash | Nick_Meister
[12:39] <arvut> bazhang: fine
[12:39] <Cube``> jrib: aah!
[12:40] <Cube``> jrib: ok so im doing apt-get build-dep python-sqlite. then which directory do i go in to find setup.py?
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> Cube``:  the askubuntu.com site i recall covers other ways to use differnt versions of pythin
[12:40] <jrib> Cube``: the directory with the sqlite module source
[12:40] <garu01> ou do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[12:40] <bazhang> garu01,  so run it
[12:40] <Cube``> jrib: where would that be?
[12:40] <JediMaster> that's odd, installing nginx on 11.04 no longer creates the /var/www/ dir
[12:40] <Cube``> jrib: or does apt-get build-dep download to the cwd?
[12:40] <garu01> bazhang: how?/
[12:41] <jrib> Cube``: where you put it?  (you need to download it)
[12:41] <jrib> Cube``: the python documentation has a document on installing modules you should read
[12:41] <szal> garu01: on the terminal
[12:41] <paulo_> I used this command: "dd if=/dev/sdc of=./Desktop/usb.img
[12:41] <paulo_> "
[12:41] <paulo_> to create an image from a drive
[12:41] <paulo_> is it correct?
[12:41] <jrib> Cube``: http://docs.python.org/release/2.5/inst/inst.html
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> paulo_:  depens on how you want to manage the image.
[12:42] <szal> garu01: sudo nvidia-xconfig <- preferably when X is not running (don't ask me how to temporarily stop X in *buntu, since it doesn't use the traditional runlevel system)
[12:42] <paulo_> Dr_Willis: what do you mean?
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> paulo_:  i tend to do like  if=/dev/sda1  of=sda1.image
[12:42] <szal> garu01: and don't PM people without invitation or permission
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> for each partition.
[12:42] <arvut> I wonder, has anyone in here tried virtualbox in 11.04 with win7 as virtualized OS?
[12:42] <Cube``> jrib: aah, so build-dep just gives me the dependencies. ok, and now i need to get the source from somewhere else (eg python.org)?
[12:43] <JediMaster> arvut: probably doesn't help much, but windows xp works fine under it
[12:43] <Cube``> jrib: yes or no?
[12:43] <paulo_> Dr_Willis: i did it that way since i want to preserve the MBR
[12:43] <jrib> Cube``: sure.  I don't know if you need build-dep but it won't hurt
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> paulo_:  so what are you going to do with the image..
[12:43] <Cube``> jrib: yeah ok. thanks!
[12:43] <paulo_> Dr_Willis: boot it on bochs
[12:43] <arvut> JediMaster: I assume it would, any performance differences from native install?
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> Running in a VM will always have some performace issues.
[12:44] <bazhang> arvut, much slower, no 3d
[12:45] <arvut> bazhang: ok, how about the other way around?
[12:45] <bazhang> arvut, ubuntu on windows 7 host? same issues
[12:45] <arvut> meh..
[12:45] <JediMaster> arvut, as bazhang said, no 3d, but the performance wasn't too bad, it was simply so we had a copy of IE6 and IE7 to test sites on, it was useable running on the crappy host that only had 2GB ram and a single core amd cpu
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> It all depeneds on what you are going to do in the VM.
[12:47] <uuser123> i have installed ubuntu 10.04 and after that i have installed utm (unified threat management software -firewall/vpn/av/ips/mail/url/vpn ) on that but now how do i installed /configure  additional  interface
[12:47] <paulo_> this copy is taking long :/
[12:48] <arvut> JediMaster: ah, I was thinking 11.04 64-bit native on a quad core 3.06ghz i7 with 8 ram which I currently run win7 64bit on. then virtualizing one or the other OS and thus having both at good functionality
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> paulo_:  you DID use a bs=2048 or similer option?
[12:48] <paulo_> nope
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> paulo_:  that may be why.
[12:49] <paulo_> Dr_Willis: what does bs do>
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> I think dd may default to 1024 now a days for bs.. not sure..
[12:49] <bazhang> arvut, better to dual boot in that situation, honestly
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> block size of somthing like that.. You see it used in all the dd examples
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> makes it faster - up to a point.
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> see ' man dd '
[12:49] <arvut> bazhang: yeah.. would be cool with both at the same time tho
[12:52] <uuser123> in ubuntu how do i configure nic 2 and 3
[12:52] <paulo_> the copy without bs was at 6.9mb/s
[12:52] <bazhang> uuser123, to do what
[12:53] <uuser123> i want to assign this nic with kvm
[12:54] <uuser123> there are 3 nic installed but i don't know how to configure them
[12:54] <gartral> hey, what happened too the #ubuntu-one channel?
[12:55] <uuser123> only 1 nic is correctly configure