[00:13] <steel2> hola
[00:13] <william_> how would I set my user acc to sudo?
[00:16] <wirechief> nosrednaekim: the alsa sound script blows out for me at line 255, i wonder if i am missing something.
[00:17] <wirechief> nosrednaekim: the alsa sound script blows out for me at line 255, i ver.0.4.43 alsa-info.sh
[00:25] <mad> Hi i just installed kubuntu and it overwrote my MBR for windows is there any way to get the old MBR back or something? ( the windows MBR is on a fake-raid 5 disk )
[00:25] <mad> Or boot from windows and fix it there? ( the MB can handle reading from the disk up until a OS takes over )
[00:29] <piquadrat> Hi! Does anyone here know if there's a specific reason to why Amarok is compiled without support vor MP4/AAC tag editing support?
[00:30] <crimsun> mp4/aac support requires support from universe; amarok is in main
[00:30] <crimsun> a main source package cannot build-depend on binary packages in universe or multiverse
[00:30]  * ubuntu_
[00:30]  * ubuntu_
[00:31]  * ubuntu_ is betta
[00:31] <ubuntu_> betta than kubuntu
[00:31] <piquadrat> crimsun: so are there any options for me to get AAC support besides building amarok myself?
[00:32] <wirechief> !paste
[00:32] <crimsun> piquadrat: check the motumedia ppa and medibuntu?
[00:34] <maduser> ah
[00:35] <piquadrat> crimsun: dang, I always forget adding medibuntu to my repository list after I install a new kubuntu release. Thanks :)
[00:35] <mrmonkeyman> anyone know of a program like treesizepro that can be used in linux?
[00:41] <trident523> mrmonkeyman: what does treesizepro do?
[00:41] <dwidmann_> This configure script is crazy .... make is clearly in my path and it says it isn't :(
[00:41] <mah_> hi i cant browes with my kongueror any body can help?
[00:42] <mah_> hi i cant browes with my kongueror any body can help?
[00:42] <trident523> mah_: Okay... are you using the computer now?
[00:42] <mrmonkeyman> its like baobab
[00:42] <mrmonkeyman> shows disk space in a nice tree view
[00:42] <mrmonkeyman> very convinient
[00:42] <mah_> yes and cdma connection
[00:43] <trident523> mrmonkeyman: what's wrong with baobab then?
[00:43] <dwidmann_> crimsun, with regards to medibuntu, I have a slightly offtopic yet slightly related question, ...If I set pin origin="Ubuntu" to >1000 and upgrade, and I have medibuntu packages, shouldn't that downgrade the packages to the Ubuntu repo versions?
[00:43] <stdin> mrmonkeyman: try kdirstat
[00:43] <trident523> mah_: Uh, try a different browser
[00:44] <mrmonkeyman> the way you can go into folders and see the free space of the folders
[00:45] <egork> a perl script complains about missing /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8. Perl is installed.
[00:45] <mrmonkeyman> i mean they're the same in a lot of ways, i've just always found that treesize would give me more information
[00:45] <mah_> i dont have
[00:46] <alexbobp> If I have installed more operating systems since I installed kubuntu, how can I get kubuntu to use it's magic to detect the OS and add an entry to grub's menu.lst?  I tried adding it manually, but I seem to have done it wrong.
[00:47] <crimsun> dwidmann_: no.
[00:47] <mrmonkeyman> Thanks though, baobab is the closest to what i'm looking for
[00:48] <mah_> my browser doesnt know my connection
[00:49] <billr> kde4!
[00:49] <billr> oh well
[00:50] <billr> I need to ask some questions about kde4 - where's the best place for that?
[00:50] <FenixReign> billr: read topic
[00:51] <Tm_T> what is?
[00:51] <dwidmann_> crimsun: hmm, that's the impression man apt_preferences gave :( ..... http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d4abad634
[00:52] <alexbobp> oops, I'll ask again later.  I have to go.
[00:54] <crimsun> dwidmann_: you haven't actually show us your apt_preferences.
[00:54] <crimsun> shown*
[00:55] <dwidmann_> I think this is the right one (it's on the second page of my klipper, so I hope so) http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d6f43638
[00:58] <dwidmann_> @crimsun:
[01:01] <crimsun> dwidmann_: well, first, you've misunderstood what "Origin" is.
[01:01] <dwidmann_> crimsun: Hmm :\
[01:02] <dwidmann_> crimsun: lets correct that so I should understand it in the future :)
[01:02] <crimsun> dwidmann_: pick a binary package that you have installed from Medibuntu.
[01:02] <crimsun> (and say it here)
[01:02] <dwidmann_> I do know it's in the /var/lib/apt/lists*Release files though ...
[01:03] <dwidmann_> amarok
[01:03] <crimsun> ok, now pastebin `apt-cache policy amarok && apt-cache show amarok'
[01:04] <dwidmann_> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d38722a3d
[01:06] <crimsun> dwidmann_: ok, so you didn't paste everything that I asked for, but what you have there is sufficient to demonstrate my point.
[01:06] <crimsun> dwidmann_: note the distinct lack of an Origin for the medibuntu package.
[01:07] <dwidmann_> erm, copy+ pasteness will get me every time ... guess it only piped part of that in, oh well, I can grab the rest this time around if you'd like
[01:08] <crimsun> dwidmann_: not really necessary at this poin
[01:08] <crimsun> point*
[01:08] <dwidmann_> yeah, I had noticed that, so, what purpose is the "origin" portion of the apt_preference tags then if not to be used this way?
[01:08] <crimsun> it _is_ meant to be used that way.
[01:08] <dwidmann_> Now I'm confused.
[01:08] <crimsun> unfortunately, it has been clear for some time that medibuntu's usage in the Release file is not appropriate
[01:08] <dwidmann_> one second
[01:09] <crimsun> i.e., don't use Origin, because it's often _not_ set appropriately
[01:09] <crimsun> not every apt repo creator is vigilant
[01:10] <dwidmann_> So this isn't correct crimsun? http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d4d9c88e
[01:11] <crimsun> dwidmann_: if it's not ending up in the cache, no.
[01:11] <dwidmann_> Hmmm, gotcha
[01:13] <dwidmann_> crimsun: okay, I see where it's supposed to show up in the apt-cache show now ... things are so much clearer now.
[01:14] <dwidmann_> I think I can come up with a viable alternative, I was just frustrated at how it wasn't working ... sad that it was that obvious  and I didn't see it
[01:16] <dwidmann_> crimsun: another question about apt_preference while I've got your attention, seeing as you can do like "release a=blah", can you also keep going like "... b=blah c=blah d=blah...."?
[01:18] <thehizz> general consensus..... should we be updating to 8.04 lts????
[01:18] <stdin> you mean Ubuntu Gnome LTS
[01:19] <dwidmann_> in other words kubuntu 8.04 = non-lts
[01:19] <crimsun> dwidmann_: on the same line?  I wouldn't do that.
[01:19] <crimsun> (for various reasons)
[01:19] <crimsun> dwidmann_: but yes, order is vital
[01:20] <dwidmann_> crimsun: It's a one use deal for the most part.
[01:20] <dwidmann_> crimsun: still doesn't seem to want to downgrade the medibuntu packages .... bah
[01:21] <dwidmann_> ah, wait, that might be why ....
[01:22] <alfredo> What you mean by Kubuntu 8.04 = non-lts?
[01:27] <izzyb> is there a link that explains all the kubuntu/ubuntu release names?
[01:27] <dwidmann_> There we go, much,much better.
[01:27] <coreymon77> alfredo: kubuntu hardy is not an lts
[01:27] <coreymon77> alfredo: only ubuntu hardy is
[01:27] <izzyb> similar to http://www.us.debian.org/releases/
[01:27] <dwidmann_> !names
[01:27] <izzyb> thanks
[01:28] <dwidmann_> Debians names are fun ...hehehe, Sid
[01:28] <coreymon77> alfredo: with kde4 still not being fully stable, it wasnt thought right to be making hardy a lts release
[01:28]  * izzyb makes note of the bot keyword also :)
[01:28] <alfredo> Ubuntu was many bugs to be a lts but Kubuntu not
[01:28] <curtis> i would like to burn a avi file to dvd?
[01:28] <seledec> hola
[01:28] <curtis> can anyone recomend a program
[01:28] <curtis> ?
[01:29] <alfredo> The kde 3.5.9 is like a rock
[01:30] <curtis> alfredo, is that for me?
[01:30] <alfredo> curtis, not for you
[01:30] <curtis> alfredo, avi burn to dvd and watch on dvd player what can i use?
[01:31] <santiago> hola como les va
[01:31] <dragon64> hola
[01:31] <alfredo> curtis, You whant to know a program to play DVDs
[01:32] <alfredo> ?
[01:32] <curtis> alfredo, no i have an .avi file that i want to burn to a dvd and play on my dvd player.
[01:33] <alfredo> curtis, you have the k3b burning program or Brasero
[01:34] <curtis> alfredo, i have the k3b
[01:35] <curtis> alfredo, ?
[01:36] <curtis> are you there?
[01:37] <curtis> ?
[01:37] <curtis> ?
[01:37] <curtis> ?
[01:37] <curtis> ?
[01:37] <alfredo> curtis
[01:37] <curtis> yes what can i use?
[01:38] <curtis> ?
[01:38] <alfredo> curtis, you have to install eMox and use it with conjunction with k3b
[01:38] <alfredo> curtis, i supose
[01:39] <fernando> hi
[01:48] <dwidmann> ughhhhhh, amarok won't play anything ..... not even ogg files :(
[01:51] <dwidmann> come to think of it, kaffeine doesn't want to either ..... xine issue .... gah
[01:51] <Sakui> anyone used quasar?
[01:52] <carl> m
[01:53] <carl> anybody no how to statically assign a wireless nic in kubuntu gutsy without knetworkmanager fucking up
[01:53] <izzyb> how do I restart kicker?  seems to have crashed (non responsive
[01:54] <Sakui> kick it :P
[01:54] <izzyb> lol
[01:54] <jati> what's up all
[01:55] <jati> hello carl?
[01:55] <carl> hello mate
[01:55] <carl> first time used this
[01:55] <carl> heard bought it
[01:56] <jati> me to carl
[01:56] <jati> what do u come from?
[01:56] <jati> carl?
[01:56] <carl> coventry
[01:56] <izzyb> hmm, I killed the kicker process and ran it again and get this output and kicker pops up and vanishes again
[01:56] <jati> carl?
[01:56] <izzyb> *** attempt to put segment in horiz list twice
[01:56] <jati> coventry??????
[01:56] <carl> england
[01:56] <jati> wow england?
[01:57] <jati> what time in england now?
[01:57] <p_quarles> !topic
[01:57] <carl> yeh do u know how to statically assign ip adress in kubuntu gutsy without knetwork mager doing 1
[01:57] <carl> it is 1.57.am
[01:58] <carl> its a big bug
[01:58] <carl> cant seem to sort it
[01:59] <jati> oh im sorry, i newbie in kubuntu...
[01:59] <carl> me too
[01:59] <shahara> me too
[01:59] <shahara> :D
[01:59] <carl> but i no some command line
[01:59] <carl> been thru sum distros
[01:59] <jati> hello shahara...
[01:59] <shahara> hello
[02:00] <carl> my eyballs are strained
[02:00] <jati> what do u come from?
[02:00] <carl> thru all the reading
[02:00] <shahara> indonesia
[02:00] <jati> realy?
[02:00] <billyd> Se TX
[02:00] <shahara> yup
[02:00] <jati> me too
[02:00] <shahara> i see
[02:01] <jati> shahara kota mana?
[02:01] <carl> im going thanks newaay bye
[02:01] <jati> bye carl
[02:01] <shahara> Jakarta
[02:01] <jati> jakarta?
[02:01] <shahara> iya
[02:02] <jati> pke kubuntu juga?
[02:02] <sepeck> is there a gui fro kron in the latest?
[02:02] <sepeck> cron not kron
[02:02] <shahara> iya baru
[02:02] <SteelRomano> ?
[02:03] <SteelRomano> Que?
[02:03] <jati> kerja, kuliah, atau sekolah??
[02:03] <SteelRomano> what?
[02:03] <shahara> kerja
[02:04] <stdin> English only in here
[02:04] <shaffy> can someone tell me how to install firefox 2.xx in kubuntu 8.04?
[02:04] <stdin> shaffy: install "firefox-2"
[02:05] <shaffy> stdin: "No candidate version found for firefox-2"
[02:05] <wirechief> !paste
[02:05] <stdin> !info firefox-2
[02:05] <stdin> shaffy: ^
[02:06] <shaffy> well, i still get the same thing :S
[02:06] <SteelRomano> Shaffy: Adept
[02:06] <jati> im out.....
[02:06] <jati> byee.....
[02:07] <stdin> shaffy: enable universe
[02:10] <shaffy> thanks stdin and SteelRomano.  i got it working now.  universe wasn't enabled.
[02:14] <billyd> I was wrong when I left old configs iwhen I upgraded from 70.4 to 7.10 and have problems with FireFox.  Thinking of un-installing Firefox just befor I upgrade to *.04 and the install it again
[02:14] <billyd> 8.04
[02:15] <billyd> Is there any reason NOT to install KDE 4.0 rrright after I upgrade to 8.04??
[02:15] <stdin> none that I can think of
[02:16] <Jucato> there is one reason...
[02:16] <billyd> I may well tire my tired old butt to the LogOn Cafe in Beaumont and do both Monday afternoon.  Figure on 3 hours or less of computer time.
[02:17] <billyd> What is the reasom jucato
[02:19] <Jucato> one reason not to install KDE 4.0 is if you don't want to install it :)
[02:19] <billyd> OK
[02:19] <Jucato> :P
[02:20] <contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[02:20] <contrast83> Upon installing Hardy, my sound card (Intel) and wifi card (Cisco Aironet) didn't work. I compiled my own kernel (2.6.25) and that got my wireless working, but still no sound. Any ideas?
[02:21] <billyd> No - I look forward to it.  Kontact/KPilot sposed to be able to cope with multiple PalmPilots and their OS % (Garnet??)  Also maybe be easier to humor HDA-Intel sound chips.  I'm lucky to have stereo ONLY sound right now
[02:21] <billyd> Palm OS 5
[02:22] <stdin> there's no KDE PIM packages in 4.0
[02:22] <asobi> is it mandatory to upgrade to hardy?
[02:22] <Jucato> billyd: well there's another reason ^^^ :)
[02:22] <Jucato> asobi: no
[02:22] <contrast83> asobi: Nope
[02:22] <asobi> when does support stop?
[02:22] <contrast83> asobi: 18 months after its release
[02:22] <Jucato> asobi: 18 months after release
[02:22] <billyd> contrast - if that the HAD-INTEL card or chip it has caused TONS of problems
[02:22] <billyd> HDA-INTEL
[02:22] <Jucato> asobi: meaning 1 more year
[02:23] <asobi> can i upgrade to v9 while skipping 8?
[02:23] <Jucato> no
[02:23] <stdin> only with LTS -> LTS upgrades can you skip versions
[02:23] <asobi> so essentially i have to upgrade to 8
[02:23] <Jucato> and it's not "v8" or "v9"
[02:23] <contrast83> billyd: "$ lspci | grep audio" yields this: 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[02:24] <contrast83> billyd: So it's a known problem - wait for the fix, or is there a current workaround?
[02:24] <caxondillo> ola?
[02:24] <billyd> THere is a bunch of stuff  here        http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616845
[02:24] <stdin> asobi: the next after hardy will be 8.10 not 9
[02:24] <contrast83> billyd: Awesome, thanks a lot!
[02:25] <billyd> It may not be the same.  THat designation covers several chips ,ine is ALC833
[02:25] <asobi> what comes after 8.1?
[02:25] <Jucato> 9.04
[02:25] <stdin> asobi: not 8.1, 8.10. it's <year>.<month>
[02:25] <billyd> The numerals after thew decimal arew for months
[02:26] <Jucato> asobi: the version numbers stand for year and month, and we always release in April and October
[02:26] <Jucato> so it's always .04 and .10 per year
[02:26] <stdin> except dapper, but dapper is "special" :p
[02:26] <asobi> so 8.10 then 9.04?
[02:26] <billyd> And it seems Kubuntu and Ubuntu aren't in step this time on LTS version either
[02:27] <billyd> Ubuntu 8.04 is LTS
[02:27] <stdin> asobi: yep
[02:27] <contrast83> billyd: Just going over the first part of that thread... Not sure if that's got me on the right track - My sound card doesn't seem to be recognized at all (which was never an issue with any other release/distro). Is that problem addressed in that thread?
[02:27] <stdin> billyd: that was canonical's decision
[02:27] <billyd> And it we have a 9.08, it will coincide with my last car note :-)
[02:27] <asobi> if i skip 8.04 and 8.10, can i upgrade to 9.04?
[02:27] <stdin> no
[02:28] <asobi> so in a way, it's mandatory
[02:28] <billyd> I'm going through thta now
[02:28] <contrast83> asobi: In a way, yes. But you decide when. ;-)
[02:28] <Jucato> asobi: *if* you want to upgrade to a much later version
[02:28] <stdin> mandatory every 18 months if you want a supported version
[02:29] <asobi> support is good isn't it?
[02:29] <contrast83> Support = critical security patches, etc. Not much else, from my experience.
[02:29] <asobi> critical patches is good ~_~
[02:29] <stdin> we can't possibly support every version ever made with community support, commercial support and security patches
[02:29] <billyd> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting              look at this contrast
[02:29] <asobi> right
[02:30] <contrast83> billyd: Will do, thanks.
[02:30] <asobi> i wait for 8.10
[02:30] <asobi> thanks
[02:41] <izzyb> is it possible to restart kicker without logging out of kde?
[02:41] <stdin> izzyb: if I remember it right "dcop kicker kicker restart" from konsole should do it
[02:42] <izzyb> hmm, did something, but still dies
[02:43] <billyd> Is there more 3rd party documantation for LTS versions??  I sorta get the impression there is.  I've been thinking an LTS version might be best for people new to Linux
[02:43] <izzyb> don't know if it's dieing or if its just not bouncing back up from a hide
[02:43] <izzyb> is there a way to manually turn off kicker hiding?
[02:44] <stdin> there's a setting somewere in kcontrol I think
[02:45] <stdin> or set "AutoHidePanel=false" in section "[General]" in ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc
[02:45] <Jucato> stdin: I win this time :P
[02:46] <stdin> if I want to restart the panel I have to kill plasma :p
[02:46] <Jucato> stdin: kquitapp
[02:46] <Jucato> :D
[02:47] <stdin> s/kill/quit/
[02:47] <stdin> I actually use qdbus :)
[02:47] <stdin> reminds me of the dcop days
[02:47] <Jucato> kquitapp --help: Quit a D-Bus enabled application easily
[02:47]  * Jucato guesses it's actually calling qdbus :)
[02:48] <stdin> probably easier than "qdbus org.kde.plasma /MainApplication quit" though
[02:49] <Jucato> :D
[02:49] <Jucato> maybe not... I mean.. "kquitapp plasma" has got to be harder
[02:54] <shaffy> !xine
[02:54] <shaffy> !gxine
[02:54] <shaffy> !kubuntu-2
[02:54] <Jucato> !msgthebot | shaffy
[02:55] <Walzmyn> we can add factoid to that bot?
[02:55] <shaffy> how do you look up a package with the bot?
[02:55] <stdin> you can suggest them and the bot will send it off to be reviewed
[02:55] <Walzmyn> ah
[02:56] <Walzmyn> !topic
[02:56] <Jucato> shaffy: !info package_name
[02:56] <shaffy> damn.
[02:56] <shaffy> thanks
[02:56] <shaffy> hehe
[02:56] <Jucato> shaffy: or you might want to use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:56] <stdin> or apt-cache search
[02:57] <Walzmyn> the bot gives info about stuff other than just packages, it's got one for !netinstall for example
[02:57] <Jucato> those would be factoids
[02:58] <Walzmyn> ah, I see his question was specific for packages, my bad
[02:59] <shaffy> !info xine
[02:59] <osiris> i just have to say that kubuntu has provided me a way better experience than trying to run ubuntu.  Hardy has a few issues, being new and all, but the application set in kde makes things much easier to deal with
[03:00]  * Walzmyn bites his tongue about kde being better than gnome
[03:00] <stdin> keep it bitten ;)
[03:00] <Jucato> shaffy: you will have to provide the *exact* package name
[03:00] <Schuenemann> does anybody here have an ipod? How is ubuntu support for it?
[03:01] <shaffy> is there something wrong with the package servers? i've been getting a lot of download errors
[03:01] <donald_duck> how do i defrag?
[03:01] <stdin> donald_duck: you don't need to
[03:01] <stdin> ever
[03:01] <Jucato> shaffy: there might be, depending on the particular download error and the server you are using
[03:01] <Jucato> !defrag
[03:01] <Jucato> donald_duck: ^^^
[03:01] <Jucato> Schuenemann: I heard quite ok, specially with amarok...
[03:01] <Jucato> !ipod | Schuenemann
[03:02] <Walzmyn> man, that thing is handy as side pockets
[03:02] <Schuenemann> hmm I don't have one yet, was just wondering how it would go
[03:02] <Schuenemann> !iphone
[03:03] <Schuenemann> what happened to the other bot?
[03:03] <stdin> iphones are lame, don't get one :p
[03:03] <donald_duck> not defrag my ext3 partitions but defrag my fat32 partition which is on my external drive? Its VERY slow
[03:03] <Schuenemann> stdin, I don't plan getting one... it's just the wiki said ipod touch and iphone aren't supported, I wanted to know if there is a plan of doing so :-)
[03:04] <Walzmyn> donald_duck, if it's external, plug it into a windows box and defrag it
[03:05] <donald_duck> i dont have a windoze box =D
[03:05] <stdin> Schuenemann: I don't know, I only have an ipod (original nano) because it was a gift, but it now runs linux and rockbox so works perfectly with kubuntu :)
[03:05] <Walzmyn> donald_duck, you don't have a friend or one at work or something? the things are like roaches, they're everywhere.
[03:05] <donald_duck> I suppose i could go to my library and plug the drive in a defrag
[03:05] <Schuenemann> stdin, can it play ogg?
[03:05] <stdin> Schuenemann: yep :D
[03:05] <stdin> all my music is in ogg
[03:05] <Schuenemann> that's interesting
[03:06] <stdin> !rockbox
[03:06] <Schuenemann> thanks
[03:06] <stdin> it indeed does rock :)
[03:06] <Schuenemann> heh
[03:06] <billyd> You can even put different or altered OS in phone if you know what you are doing - at least I have heard that
[03:06] <stdin> and you can use it on win/mac as it'll just be seen as an external HD, so just drag+drop music onto it
[03:07] <Schuenemann> hmmm
[03:07] <Schuenemann> does itunes work?
[03:07] <stdin> itunes is evil
[03:07] <stdin> so no
[03:07] <stdin> :p
[03:08] <wesley__> lol
[03:08] <Schuenemann> heh... yeah, I was just curious. I don't like that encrypted stuff
[03:08] <stdin> in fact, itunes will likely break support with linux
[03:08] <wesley__> theres enough evil on the world like vista
[03:08] <wesley__> !vista
[03:08] <stdin> it'll update the firmware just so it no longer works with linux, it's evil
[03:08] <wesley__> is that not bad stdin
[03:08] <donald_duck> why dosent my konquerors internet work??
[03:09] <Walzmyn> the internet dosen't belong to your konqueror
[03:09] <donald_duck> firefox works
[03:10] <Walzmyn> sorry, donald_duck, what's it doing?
[03:10] <wesley__> stdin will kubuntu update kde4 the 7th ?
[03:10] <donald_duck>  An error occurred while loading http://google.com:Could not connect to host http://google.com/.
[03:10] <stdin> wesley: we'll have 4.0.4 on the day
[03:11] <wesley__> cool
[03:11] <Walzmyn> donald_duck, i'm not sure, since FF is working. I'd reboot and see what I got
[03:12] <Walzmyn> might not be the best answer, but it's what I always try :)
[03:12] <billyd> donald_duck - could you possibly have konquerot switched to work offline?
[03:12] <wesley__> going upgradeit right away ever stable kde4 update is nice and kde4.1 wil be much faster
[03:12] <Schuenemann> stdin, do you still get a cool UI with rockbox?
[03:12] <stdin> Schuenemann: a configurable UI
[03:13] <stdin> I have quite an old version on my ipod, from around 1.5 years ago, I may update it soon
[03:13] <donald_duck> konqueror is online mode.
[03:13] <Schuenemann> hmm
[03:14] <Schuenemann> I'm checking the features... who the hell would want to play doom on the mp3 player?
[03:14] <Jucato> it's a "classic" test among geeks. :)
[03:15] <Schuenemann> =]
[03:15] <Walzmyn> it's not who would want to play doom, it's can me make it run.
[03:15] <Jucato> along the lines of "a gadget is not worth it if it can't be made to run DOOM"
[03:15] <egork> hi, where should I start looking for what is called when a multimeda button is pressed on my keyboard?
[03:15] <Jucato> !keys
[03:15] <Jucato> egork: try that ^^^^
[03:16] <egork> thanks Jucato
[03:24] <egork> Jucato, I can not find Input Actions anywhere, is there a way to call it from the command line?
[03:27] <Schuenemann> egork, it's under regional settings
[03:28] <Schuenemann> egork, or accessibility, depending if you're in kcontrol or systemsettings
[03:28] <donald_duck> where do i report bugs
[03:29] <Schuenemann> bug in what?
[03:29] <donald_duck> konqueror
[03:29] <Schuenemann> bugs.kde.org
[03:29] <donald_duck> not launchpad?
[03:30] <Schuenemann> as a KDE application, I guess it would be at kde.org
[03:32] <Mr_Sonoma> I'm having a little trouble with samba shares, specifically sharing a printer hooked to my machine with a windows machine. the windows machine can see the printer but when i try to print a test page it shows "access denied" and will not print.
[03:33] <egork> My problem is, the volume buttons work but only parially and I can not find where they are configured to fix it.
[03:35] <Tw|sT> ok, I finally got v8.04 installed to 2 systems.  Nice release, but... I noticed that the boot-to-install function is kinda buggy.  However, the knoppix-like boot to desktop then install from icon works perfectly
[03:39] <Tw|sT> anyways, I still give the Kubuntu teams mad props for another great release.  considering how well things have gone with 8.04 overall, I'll be migrating my servers to it within the next month ( as soon as I can schedule adequate time to do so).
[03:39] <PovAddict> I just installed Kubuntu, the restricted drivers, and compiz
[03:39] <karl_> i have a usb audio input device (microphone on my usb webcam) which works under skype, but I don't think that it has a mixer associated with it or is mapped as a device (/dev/). I would like to use it over flash, which supports this. Anyone know how to map the device someway for alsa to recognize it?
[03:39] <PovAddict> I'm getting some strange display corruption
[03:39] <PovAddict> http://imagebin.ca/view/gt7Z--R.html
[03:40] <PovAddict> http://imagebin.ca/view/xKQUOhm.html
[03:40] <PovAddict> inactive titlebars usually don't even show
[03:40] <PovAddict> ie. unfocused windows (usually) have no titlebar or borders
[03:42] <yuriy> Tw|sT: buggy in what way? please file bugs on this.
[03:43] <Tw|sT> will do, asap.
[03:44] <Tw|sT> the bug was a disconnection to the installation media.  after this, using the same hardware, I ran a hd test (via Ultimate Boot CD) then ran a media check from the kubuntu disc.
[03:44] <Tw|sT> all turned out A-ok
[03:44] <Tw|sT> every attempt at a direct install failed
[03:45] <Tw|sT> but, when I booted into desktop mode, and installed via the desktop Icon, everything went as expected.
[03:59] <Agent_bob> what happens if you don't register windows vesta ?
[03:59] <fildo_> they send the cops to ur house
[03:59] <fildo_> a
[03:59] <fildo_> asking for cash
[03:59] <PovAddict> ask in ##windows
[04:00] <Agent_bob> lol   and how whould they know ??
[04:00] <Eruaran> they use it ?
[04:00] <fildo_> ur ip addy
[04:00] <fildo_> the track it down
[04:00] <PovAddict> Agent_bob: if you don't register it, it will enter Crippled Mode, basically
[04:00] <fildo_> anyways, stop asking ridiclous question, goto #windowblows
[04:01] <PovAddict> I just installed Kubuntu, the restricted drivers, and compiz; and I'm getting display corruption on the window decorations
[04:01] <fildo> Sysinfo for 'broken': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU<EMAIL_ADDRESS>at 1200 MHz (4014 bogomips), , RAM: 511/2027MB, 115 proc's, 51.4min up
[04:01] <fildo> ops
[04:01] <PovAddict> http://imagebin.ca/view/xKQUOhm.html
[04:01] <PovAddict> http://imagebin.ca/view/gt7Z--R.html
[04:02] <midgard> hi everyone
[04:03] <Agent_bob> PovAddict yes as i see.      crippled mode as you call it.  means  it will start internet explorer only   lol
[04:03] <Dr_willis> that way it can still get spyware!
[04:03] <Agent_bob> right :)
[04:03] <Eruaran> It IS spyware
[04:03] <Agent_bob> yes drm and all
[04:04] <Eruaran> a number of processes 'phone home' to a couple of microsoft addresses
[04:04] <Dr_willis> people at work can not understand how i can 'legally' give away kubuntu/ubuntu and other linux cd's
[04:05] <Eruaran> send them to the FSF website
[04:05] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis now that's sad.   i can't understand why it would be illeagle to give away windows cd's     like aol cd's ... ?
[04:05] <Agent_bob> would/could
[04:06] <Dr_willis> Onw guy eas wanting a word processor. but dident want to pirate Word.. so i gave him an OpenOffice cd. :)
[04:06] <Dr_willis> With OOo and Abiword both on it for windows. Did all the tasks that  he needed.
[04:06] <Eruaran> Imagine if a good book came with a licence and a seal stating that buy opening it and breaking the seal you agree to the publishers EULA...
[04:06] <PovAddict> Agent_bob: because each person has to pay for Windows
[04:06] <redmoon> What is the Site for wine?
[04:07] <PovAddict> winehq.org
[04:07] <PovAddict> IIRC
[04:07] <redmoon> k
[04:07] <Agent_bob> PovAddict correct.  "each person" is paying for windows.   not only the users thereof
[04:08] <redmoon> wait... is that the site for the emurl wine? or.. a " wine drink " site?
[04:08] <Dr_willis> >hic<
[04:08] <PovAddict> try it and see
[04:08] <redmoon> ahm...........
[04:09] <redmoon> its not the right one ><
[04:09] <PovAddict> it is
[04:09] <PovAddict> http://www.winehq.org/
[04:09] <Dr_willis> !wine
[04:09] <redmoon> thats what i put in.... =.=
[04:09] <Agent_bob> Eruaran better still, Imagine if every one that opened their mouth to speak started with the words "by listening to the following, you will be accepting the EULA of the entire speach"
[04:09] <redmoon> it didnt give me the right site
[04:10] <PovAddict> btw, W.I.N.E. = Wine Is Not an Emulator
[04:10] <Eruaran> Agent_bob: heh
[04:10] <tales_2010> I downloaded and installed kubuntu 8.04 hardy, but I can't configure my network conection.. it says my default gateway is wrong, but it's not!
[04:10] <Agent_bob> !wine | redmoon
[04:10] <PovAddict> Agent_bob: http://bash.org/?577451
[04:10] <Dr_willis> Wine is an Open Source implementation of the Windows API on top of X, OpenGL, and Unix.    first line on    http://www.winehq.org/
[04:11] <Agent_bob> !appdb | redmoon
[04:11] <tales_2010> I downloaded and installed kubuntu 8.04 hardy, but I can't configure my network conection.. it says my default gateway is wrong, but it's not, and my connection does not work.. anyone knows why?
[04:11] <redmoon> I dont care what if its an emulator or not i need it
[04:11] <redmoon> >.>
[04:11] <Dr_willis> Then install it?
[04:11] <PovAddict> erm
[04:12]  * Agent_bob doubts that you "need" wine,  and rather supects that you "want" it.
[04:12] <redmoon> Im trying but im having the same complications =.=
[04:12] <PovAddict> you'll kill me for asking this, but
[04:12] <PovAddict> does Kontact support syncing with PalmOS devices? :)
[04:12] <redmoon> I dont want it...  But i need it
[04:17] <Agent_bob> err knetwork manager i mean ?
[04:17] <neon> i am trying to install themes from kde=look.ork but noluck is there a tutorial i can read on how to, thx
[04:18] <Dr_willis> !info wine
[04:18] <Dr_willis> Enable universe repository, install wine.
[04:18] <redmoon> as i said before........ if you mind your own buisness i wont have a problem >.<"
[04:18] <PovAddict> redmoon: why are you in the channel?
[04:18] <redmoon> Because Im busy doing multi things
[04:18] <redmoon> multi-tasking
[04:19] <redmoon> im  adding different servers
[04:19] <redmoon> and talking in multiple chatroom
[04:19] <redmoon> chatrooms*
[04:19] <redmoon> =.=
[04:19] <redmoon> have a problem with that?
[04:19] <PovAddict> yea so why did you join this one
[04:19] <redmoon> Idk.. it was already there
[04:19] <redmoon> i just clicked it
[04:19] <redmoon> Once again.......... if youd mind your own buisness id be fine >.>..
[04:20] <redmoon> there are other people in here for you to torment
[04:20] <PovAddict> if we minded our own business, we wouldn't have told you where to find Wine website
[04:20] <redmoon> =.="..... It was a simple question because i forgot to add it to my favs so i wouldnt have to look for it =.= I asked a simple question and got smart ass remarks instead
[04:20] <Agent_bob> redmoon enough already.    if you stop insulting others you will be treeted much more hospitably
[04:20] <neon> i am trying to install themes from kde=look.ork but noluck is there a tutorial i can read on how to, thx
[04:21] <redmoon> Idc how im treated... im treated terrible everyday... Even tho ive never done anything to anyone.. spoken to anyone...  Im off to do other things for a while.
[04:25] <baudthief> having a strange problem after shutting down - I had to (literally) take a screenshot: http://www.horizons-edge.com.au/04052008037.jpg
[04:25] <baudthief> any ideas?
[04:25] <baudthief> it just hangs there
[04:25] <redmoon> I could care less.....
[04:25]  * Agent_bob notes that "retaliating" is a propper word there.
[04:26] <thechris> does 8.04 support installation from linux
[04:27] <thechris> and if so, what additional kernal paremeters are required to get past usbcore.c
[04:27] <Agent_bob> baudthief one idea on a workaround, use restart and then the power button before it boots again?
[04:27] <BluesKaj> baudthief, try this site , it may help, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/118605/comments/32
[04:28] <Agent_bob> oh good,  patch in progress
[04:28] <baudthief> Agent_bob: I had to do the whole "REISUB" thing, I didnt think it'd be safe to just hard reset
[04:28] <baudthief> BluesKaj: thanks, checking it out
[04:29] <BluesKaj> baudthief, ATI graphics I bet
[04:29] <baudthief> nope
[04:29] <baudthief> nVidia actually
[04:29] <BluesKaj> oh
[04:29] <Agent_bob> baudthief yeah, i'm talking the restart option rather than the shutdown option
[04:29] <BluesKaj> hmm
[04:29] <thechris> i'm getting /dev/ram does not exist when attempting to install
[04:30] <baudthief> I'm 90% sure its due to samba shares I added - but still the question remains, why?
[04:30] <BluesKaj> baudthief, sorry I should have asked first , before posting that site
[04:30] <baudthief> np :P
[04:31] <thechris> maybe this will work -- i'd like to install linux, but assume i don't have a CD drive
[04:31] <Agent_bob> !install | thechris
[04:32] <Agent_bob> see the last url
[04:32] <thechris> ok, but those aren't up to date
[04:32] <baudthief> BluesKaj: I guess I can just deal with it until I need to reinstall or whatever, things started getting really ugly after a failed upgrade to Hardy. Now I manually have to invoke 'mount -a' to mount my samba shares after logon, shutdown doesnt work, compiz is a bit choppy, etc
[04:33] <Agent_bob> nothing is uptodate in the software world
[04:33] <Agent_bob> !uptodate
[04:33] <Agent_bob> bah used to be a good one on that.  said something like do you mean what the code monkeys are about to write right now ?
[04:34] <BluesKaj> baudthief, is there a default restricted driver for your nvidia card ?
[04:34] <PovAddict> I just installed Kubuntu, the restricted drivers, and compiz; and I'm getting display corruption on the window decorations
[04:34] <PovAddict> http://imagebin.ca/view/xKQUOhm.html
[04:34] <baudthief> BluesKaj: I think so, after I upgraded to hardy it didn't make me install manually, just worked right away
[04:34] <Agent_bob> !compiz | PovAddict if this helps,
[04:35] <baudthief> Blue: usually X dies saying it cant open a display, and i have to re-download and install a restricted driver manually
[04:35] <PovAddict> Agent_bob: so "it's not supported, you're on your own if it doesn't work"?
[04:35] <baudthief> * BluesKaj:
[04:35] <Agent_bob> PovAddict the "further help in #compiz-fusion" part of that post   ^
[04:35] <|TroubleMaker|> I am having trouble with samba shares, my windows machine (vista) can see my 8.04 machine but when trying to print to the printer connected to the linux box i get an error saying "Access denied, Unable to connect" any suggestions?
[04:36] <baudthief> |TroubleMaker|: try adding "Map to bad user = Guest" to your smb.conf
[04:36] <Dr_willis> |TroubleMaker|,   you might want to make the printer 'public' also.
[04:36] <Agent_bob> PovAddict as far as my helping can go on compiz you are totally on your own, but that's not by choice; that's of necessity.  sorry.
[04:36] <BluesKaj> baudthief, ok my symptoms were a shutdown hang , so I had to use the 3 finger salute to shut down after installing the restricted driver , but it was automatic after I chose theoption to do so.
[04:37] <|TroubleMaker|> make the printer public in cups?
[04:37] <BluesKaj> automatic install that is
[04:37] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. samba shared printers are disabled by default? golly.. checking the smb.conf on my system right now.
[04:38] <baudthief> BluesKaj: sounds ugly :P
[04:38] <Dr_willis> |TroubleMaker|,   guest ok = no            Change to yes.. Might help.
[04:38] <BluesKaj> baudthief, after following the tip on the site i posted earlier , the shutdown is normal
[04:38] <sirmike1970md> hi all witch samba thing do i need to install to for the server so i can share files with my windows in k
[04:39] <Agent_bob> BluesKaj bar keep,  i'll have a three fingures of salute please  :)
[04:39] <baudthief> BluesKaj: hmm :\ I think i'll deal with it for now heh - the "disappearing checkbox" bug is as annoying as hell though
[04:39] <BluesKaj> well, it's sacktime for me gents & gentilles... nitey nite
[04:40] <|TroubleMaker|> under the printers section of the smb.conf file guest ok = yes right?
[04:40] <baudthief> hah, sacktime :P
[04:40] <baudthief> |TroubleMaker|: yup
[04:40] <|TroubleMaker|> ok that was already done
[04:40] <|TroubleMaker|> and just verified that one.
[04:41] <GothicD3vil> can somebody give me a little of help?
[04:41] <baudthief> |TroubleMaker|: try adding "Map to guest = bad user" under [global]
[04:41] <Dr_willis> i alwyas make a windows user and linux user with the same name and password. making a samba password for the linux user with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME'   - for my printing needs.
[04:41] <baudthief> without quotes of course
[04:42] <|TroubleMaker|> this is my wifes laptop and she has a log on with my machine with the same user name..so that issue is already done Dr_willis ...... i'll run the smbpasswd command though (i think i've been down that road too though)
[04:42] <GothicD3vil> can somebody give me a little of help?
[04:43] <baudthief> GothicD3vil: Don't ask to ask, just ask :P
[04:44] <GothicD3vil> ok, my question is i'm looking for a user friendly os, right now im using fedora (not friendly) and i want to know how is kubuntu or ubuntu or mandriva
[04:44] <Alexman> kubuntu
[04:44] <Alexman> kubuntu 100%
[04:44] <baudthief> agreed
[04:44] <GothicD3vil> and how easy is for get programs and games?
[04:44] <Alexman> i started out on SuSe and then switched to ubuntu
[04:44] <Alexman> just run synaptic package manager
[04:45] <Agent_bob> GothicD3vil last i compared mandriva was as uf as any.  but that has been a few years now.
[04:45] <Alexman> very easy
[04:45] <GothicD3vil> because fedora is everything is yums
[04:45] <baudthief> GothicD3vil: but dont take anyones word on it, download :P It runs straight from the CD, so you don't need to install to test
[04:45] <baudthief> BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE
[04:45]  * baudthief goes away :(
[04:45] <Dr_willis> Installing new stuff = run the packatge manager tool, click a few things, click intall...
[04:45] <Agent_bob> GothicD3vil in mandriva everything is urpm  and in ubuntu everything is apt
[04:46] <GothicD3vil> i wish fedora was like that, i dont have mind for that too much sand in my brain to think in that
[04:46] <|TroubleMaker|> ok ran the smbpasswd and made the map to guest change, restarted samba and no joy
[04:46] <baudthief> |TroubleMaker|: :\
[04:46] <GothicD3vil> so you recomend kubuntu?
[04:46] <baudthief> GothicD3vil: what answer would you expect from #kubuntu :P
[04:46] <Dr_willis> |TroubleMaker|,  try having the user connect to their home shares?
[04:47] <Agent_bob> GothicD3vil i recomend debian,  but you would probably like kubuntu better yes.
[04:47] <|TroubleMaker|> i dont have home shares enabled..just wanted to share the printer
[04:47] <GothicD3vil> jajajaja i dont know maybe you run two different programs
[04:47] <|TroubleMaker|> guess i could uncomment those lines and try it though
[04:47] <Alexman> how do i get my ip?
[04:47] <Agent_bob> !whatsmyip
[04:47] <|TroubleMaker|> but i can see the printer in the windows machine's network browser
[04:48] <Dr_willis> Also you might want to enable more verbose logging in the samba config, to see what its saying is going on.
[04:48] <baudthief> www.whatsmyipaddress.com
[04:48] <GothicD3vil> thanks for the help
[04:48] <Dr_willis> It may be some CUPS issue, not a samba issue.
[04:49] <Alexman> !whatsmyip
[04:49] <|TroubleMaker|> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9917/ thats my smb.conf file
[04:50] <Alexman> umm
[04:50] <Alexman> that website also says i live near washington :-p
[04:50] <|TroubleMaker|> it may be Dr_willis but i havent seen what i missed with either service....thats why im here asking questions maybe we will stumble on my error
[04:51] <Dr_willis> My smb.conf from my old printserver ---------> http://paste.stgraber.org/3153
[04:52] <GothicD3vil> kubuntu have compiz by default?
[04:52] <Dr_willis> GothicD3vil,  No it does not
[04:52] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[04:53] <Dr_willis> Takes all of 5 min to setup.
[04:53] <GothicD3vil> thanks
[04:55] <thechris> anyone here install 8.04 from something other than a CD/DVD?
[04:56] <Alexman> i did!
[04:59] <thechris> Alexman: how?
[04:59] <Alexman> i did the update manager
[05:01] <|TroubleMaker|> i tried yours Dr_willis .... no joy either (ofcourse i changed your MSHOME workgroup to WORKGROUP to match my wife's setup)
[05:01] <Dr_willis> I always have to change the default workgroup to mshome. :P
[05:01] <Dr_willis> Can she connect to her home shares?
[05:01] <Dr_willis> if so - then we can say its not a samba issue.. (I think(
[05:02] <thechris> Alexman: ok, but i don't have a previous version of ubuntu
[05:02] <Alexman> ooh
[05:02] <Alexman> then do a cd
[05:02] <Alexman> or order one
[05:03] <Dr_willis> thechris,  you might want to clarify what you Are wanting to do exactly.
[05:03] <Dr_willis> There are several alternative isntall methods
[05:03] <Dr_willis> !install
[05:05] <thechris> Dr_willis: without using a CD, and without currently having windows or ubuntu on my box, but with having another distro of linux, as well as grub and a small CD-sized partition available, as well as a network, install 8.04
[05:05] <Dr_willis> You can set up a 2nd linux box to do a netboot/install I belive.
[05:06] <Agent_bob> script  getmyip.sh   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d4f1779db
[05:06] <Dr_willis> That way the intalling-to-box dosent need a cd/dvd at all.
[05:06] <_mats_> Why is Kontact trying (and failing) to connect to the server for my offline imap email account when I start it up? I have turned off all reasons I can think of for it to do that.
[05:06] <|TroubleMaker|> Dr_willis, actually i dont see a home folder when looking at the linux box from this laptop
[05:06] <thechris> Dr_willis: it seems very sad that there is no way to install 8.04 without a CD
[05:06] <Dr_willis> thechris,  thers are ways to isntall without a cd.
[05:07] <Dr_willis> net boot, is one way. You can make a 'install able' usb-thumbdrive also.
[05:07] <Agent_bob> i thought i posted the factoid on that hours ago
[05:07] <Agent_bob> !install
[05:07] <Dr_willis> You could set up  a system where you dont even Need to Install on the client box. it could totally boot/run off a server.
[05:08] <Agent_bob> there is a word for that
[05:08] <Agent_bob> i just can't remember it.
[05:09] <thechris> Well, i'm really trying to install in the most painless non-CD way.  which should be to simply use a partition to hold the data from the ISO and use grub to boot it
[05:09] <thechris> but that doesn't work
[05:09] <thechris> also, "dumb terminal"
[05:09] <Alexman> whats a "linux box"?
[05:09] <thechris> any computer running linux
[05:10] <Dr_willis> Ive heard of that being doable also thechris  but ive never used that method so cant help any more.
[05:10] <Dr_willis> One stillneeds a way to get grub to boot the .iso file.
[05:10] <thechris> well, no you mount the iso and copy the files to the partition.
[05:10] <Agent_bob> thechris you could copy an install from a desktop to the laptop using the liveCD
[05:11] <Alexman> why dont you jsut order a free cd? O_O
[05:11] <thechris> i just have 2 computers, neither with working CD burners, nor any blank cdrs
[05:12] <Dr_willis> mounting the .iso will not work that way, since the installer does a lot of other things, for one reason.     proberly  a dozen other reasons also.
[05:12] <Dr_willis> No 'usb thumb drives' either ?
[05:12] <thechris> i might have one somewhere
[05:12] <Alexman> order a cd
[05:12] <Dr_willis> http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
[05:12] <Agent_bob> i.e. install on a desktop,  boot the lappy with any good live linux cd,   (good being a relitive term there)    partition the hd on the lappy,  mount an fs on the lappy and use tar over ssh to copy all files from the installed desktop to the lappy   edit the fstab and menu.lst  install grub and boot
[05:13] <Dr_willis> basically sets up Grub on your HD to boot the .iso file.
[05:13] <thechris> no, i can't install on a desktop
[05:13] <thechris> i have no cd.
[05:13] <Agent_bob> thechris go to shipit and order one
[05:13] <Agent_bob> !shipit
[05:14] <_mats_> To answer my own question: I had checked "the server supports sieve". It was trying to connect to the sieve port!
[05:14] <Agent_bob> and well see you in a month or two
[05:14] <thechris> no, i'm fairly sure they will take more then an hour to send me the CD
[05:14] <thechris> and if i can fix this in an hour...
[05:14] <Agent_bob> you are not going to fix it in an hour,  case closed
[05:14] <Agent_bob> next
[05:16] <thechris> not sure about that
[05:16]  * Agent_bob checks timestamp on his irc logs...
[05:17] <|TroubleMaker|> Dr_willis, if it was a cups issue what else should i check?
[05:17]  * |TroubleMaker| is still puzzling over the situation
[05:20] <Sakui>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY anime
[05:20] <pascalFR> aie aie aie :)
[05:20] <Odd-rationale> thanks!
[05:20] <Alexman> lol
[05:20] <Alexman> omg
[05:20] <Alexman> ROFL
[05:20] <Sakui> lol
[05:21] <Sakui> hehe
[05:22] <Sakui> what is the program for kde's window manager?
[05:22] <Sakui> the default
[05:22] <Odd-rationale> kwin
[05:24]  * Sakui sighs
[05:24] <chisiyuan> hello?
[05:24] <Sakui> hi
[05:24] <Alexman> ?
[05:24] <Odd-rationale> Sakui: kwin
[05:25] <Sakui> it's not loading
[05:25] <Odd-rationale> Sakui: try alt+f2 and type in "kwin --replace" ?
[05:25] <Agent_bob> don't you need some switch   --replace
[05:25] <Agent_bob> yeah what ^ he said
[05:26] <Agent_bob> hmmm my kernel does NOT recognize vga=770    ;/
[05:28] <Sakui> alt+f2 doesn't work
[05:29] <Bria3> Hi! Can I ask something?
[05:29] <Agent_bob> you just did.
[05:29] <Agent_bob> do you mean something else ?
[05:30] <Sakui> how do remove all of these unneeded fonts?
[05:30] <Bria3> yes. How to install KDE 4 to Kubuntu Hardy?
[05:30] <Agent_bob> Sakui package manager
[05:31] <Agent_bob> !kde4 | Bria3
[05:31] <Bria3> why my name becomes bria3?
[05:31] <Bria3> oh
[05:31] <Sakui> I just have Kfontview installed
[05:33] <thechris> Agent_bob: well, i somehow fixed it.  moved grubs root to the same partition as grub and copied over the kernel.  no reason this should have fixed anything, but i'll take my victories where i can
[05:33] <ubuntu> Hey.... Im running the live version of Kubuntu for the first time... Oh and it is 7.10 still. Are there any games on Kubuntu???
[05:34] <PovAddict> I just changed a "Window behavior" setting
[05:34] <PovAddict> and kde-window-decorator crashed
[05:34] <viperserv2> hello
[05:34] <PovAddict> restarted it, changed a delay by 1ms and back to old value, clicked Apply, crashed again
[05:34] <viperserv2> i tried the doc on vnc server installation and the files arent there
[05:35] <viperserv2> when i use the get command to install
[05:35] <ubuntu> hello
[05:35] <viperserv2> hmm is there another way to install vnc server through ssh?
[05:36] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  what files are you refering to? theres several vnc varints.
[05:36] <ubuntu> HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[05:36] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  i normally install the vnc4server package and clients
[05:38] <viperserv2> hmm it says no installation candidate
[05:38] <viperserv2> sudo apt-get install vnc4server xinetd
[05:38] <viperserv2> i tried that
[05:38] <Dr_willis> !info vnc4server
[05:38] <Dr_willis>  You might not have the universe repository enabled.
[05:38] <Jack3> how come when im in terminal on the live cd and type dolphin it says its not installed but it is?
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Jack3,  perhaps thats not the proper name for it?
[05:39] <viperserv2> hmm how do i see if it's enabled?
[05:39] <PovAddict> Dr_willis: it is, works for me (in my installed Kubuntu)
[05:39] <Dr_willis> which dolphin  gives --> /usr/bin/dolphin
[05:39] <Jack3> none of the programs start from konsole on the livecd
[05:39] <Jack3> konqueror doesnt work either
[05:39] <PovAddict> echo $PATH
[05:39] <Dr_willis> I hate dolphin. i perfer konsole.   Couldbe the path is incorrect on the live cd.
[05:40] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  what ubuntu release are you using?
[05:40] <Dr_willis> !repo
[05:40] <viperserv2> 7.04 desktop
[05:40] <azzco> I've got multimedia keys on my beyboard, volume up/down are allready assigned, for global sound. Where do I unbind them?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  fire up  the packatge manager tool and enable the universe and other  repositories like the guides say.
[05:42] <PovAddict> what package contains kde-window-decorator? I can't get apt-file to work
[05:42] <bibek> hi my server has load average: 5.69, 4.11, 2.93
[05:42] <fildo> !eggdrop
[05:42] <viperserv2> hmm u can do that through ssh?
[05:42] <bibek> should i be worried?
[05:42] <azzco> PovAddict: compiz-kde maybe?
[05:42] <Dr_willis> compiz-kde - OpenGL window and compositing manager - KDE window decorator
[05:42] <PovAddict> I wonder if there is any -dbg package for it
[05:43] <PovAddict> I'm having kde-window-decorator crash as soon as I change any setting
[05:43] <PovAddict> and stackdump says no symbols
[05:43] <Jack3> im trying to fix something with gurb using the live cd, and it says, 9) Run "grub --device.map=device.map" , but that says unrecognized option
[05:43] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  if you are on a Linux box youc an 'ssh -X' to the remote and run apps.. or you can do all this via the command line.
[05:43] <azzco> Launch the decorator from cli?
[05:43] <bibek> load average: 5.69, 4.11, 2.93 is dangerous? my server is so slow
[05:44] <PovAddict> bibek: mine is at 3.03, 2.53, 2.46
[05:44] <PovAddict> by choice :)
[05:44] <Dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine       On how to add repositories from the command line.
[05:44] <PovAddict> at least 2.00 of that is solving a math problem
[05:44] <PovAddict> with both cores
[05:44] <bibek> PovAddict: :) oh
[05:44] <bibek> mine is a server on old redhat system
[05:45] <bibek> and migrating to ubuntu-server seems a real pain
[05:45] <PovAddict> azzco: not much
[05:45] <PovAddict> nicolas@ubuntu:~$ kde-window-decorator
[05:45] <PovAddict> KCrash: Application 'kde-window-decorator' crashing...
[05:45] <viperserv2> well my only option is remote cause the server is far
[05:46] <azzco> I get a big OSD whenever I touch any of my volume up/down keys. Anyone know how to unbind them (It's only kubuntu that has this feature with my kbd iirc)
[05:46] <PovAddict> note after I restart kde-window-decorator, whatever settings I changed *are* in effect
[05:46] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  if it has the X stuff installed, you can ssh -X in, and run apps. or you can do all this from the command line.
[05:47] <PovAddict> if I disable compiz, it crashes too but at least it restarts itself
[05:47] <Gokee2> Hello all I am trying to get xdmx to work.  I can`t seem to find the package I need I tried getting libdmx1 but that was already the newest version.  Anyone know where I should go to get Xdmx?
[05:48] <Agent_bob> is there any form of sshd for that "other os" ?
[05:48] <azzco> Agent_bob: putty
[05:48] <Agent_bob> azzco thought that was client only ?
[05:48] <PovAddict> Agent_bob: sshD? useless, you can't do much from a command line on "that other os"
[05:48] <Gokee2> Does putty do sshd?
[05:49] <viperserv2> well ssh -x bring me to ssh usage options
[05:49] <azzco> Agent_bob: Sorry just jumped right out of my mouth without thinking. Yeah it's only a client from what I know
[05:49] <PovAddict> Agent_bob: but I think cygwin has a ssh server
[05:49] <Agent_bob> PovAddict irrelivant.   just want a way to ssh into it.
[05:50] <Gokee2> Agent_bob, Whats the point if you can`t do anything?
[05:50] <Agent_bob> Gokee2 if you can't do anything ?      that's way to open ended
[05:51] <PovAddict> kde-window-decorator still consistently crashing
[05:51] <Gokee2> Hmmm....
[05:51] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  its -X not -x
[05:51] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  are you on a linux box right now?
[05:52] <Agent_bob> Gokee2 you can't do anything in that other os anyway, so what's the point in having it       is just as factual and relavent
[05:52] <Matt1728> can anyone help me install flashplayer on opera
[05:52] <viperserv2> i can only remote
[05:52] <viperserv2> they box is at a data center :(
[05:53] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  it may or may not have X on it then.  Use the command line  howto/guide to enable the extra repositories then is proberly the best bet.
[05:53] <Sakui> where are the system fonts located?
[05:53] <Dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine       On how to add repositories from the command line.
[05:54] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  basicially you edit 1 file and remove the # comment at the front of a few lines. :)
[05:54] <FlyBye> Hi - I am looking for help with a wubi installation on a system which already has xp(x86) and vista(x64) on it .. anybody with experiance of doing this?
[05:54] <Gokee2> Agent_bob, Its handy for IE to make your website look right to people who use it
[05:55] <Gokee2> Although I am thinking of setting up IE in wine
[05:55] <FlyBye> right now even if I put the desktop cd iso in the same folder as wubi it does not find the iso and crashes
[05:56] <viperserv2> well it seems it installed vnc now
[05:56] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  which vnc did you isntall. :)
[05:56] <viperserv2> vnc4server xinetd
[05:56] <FlyBye> Is there a wubi- guru in the House???
[05:56] <Dr_willis> if using vnc remotely over the internet. it would be safest to set up some ssh tunnles.. but thats beyond me.
[05:57] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  you might want to install some very minimal desktop to use with vnc also. Kde can be rather slow.
[05:57] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  ALSO if you are doing Linux to linux only. that 'freenx'  tool may work better for you then vnc.
[05:58] <Dr_willis> !freenx
[06:00] <FlyBye> nobody keen to have a shot at a wubi- installer problem...
[06:01] <Dr_willis> I avoide wubi like the plague.
[06:01] <Dr_willis> !wubi
[06:01] <Dr_willis> thats the extent of my Wubi knowledge. :)
[06:02] <Jack3> with vi how do i move the cursor to the right side of a letter?
[06:02] <FlyBye> Hi Dr. Wi... jeah - kool - I got that far myself hehehe
[06:02] <Agent_bob> maybe i should install windows in a vertual machine so i can install wubi ???
[06:02] <Dr_willis> Arrow key?  of course ubuntu defaults to the vim-tiny - so that may not be enabled in that.
[06:03] <Dr_willis> there is a 'vimtutor' program that gives you a vi 101 basics training. :)
[06:03] <Agent_bob> Jack3 press [ins]  then use the arrow keys
[06:03] <Dr_willis> l = moves right in vi :)
[06:03] <Agent_bob> in command mode yeah
[06:04] <Agent_bob> in insert mode l = l
[06:04] <Dr_willis> Of coruse I recvall in the vim-tiny in INSERT mode. the arrow keys kick you out of insertmode and print out some escape codes.
[06:04] <Dr_willis> since its in vi compatability mode. (i think) I have my vim so tweaked its scary
[06:05] <FlyBye> Agent .. that is a somwhat perverse idea... heheh
[06:05] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. hardy seemes to have fixed that quirk. Yea!
[06:05] <Agent_bob> FlyBye heh  yeah
[06:06] <dthacker> whoa!  hardy means no more control codes with arrows!  That's been bugging me for a year.
[06:06] <FlyBye> so where the f- am I gonna find some help on this wubi thing...?
[06:06] <dthacker> in vi that is
[06:06] <azzco> dthacker: control codes?
[06:06] <dthacker> or escape codes.
[06:06] <Agent_bob> FlyBye well it's not kde specific so maybe in #ubuntu   maybe in #wubi  maybe in ##linux or ##linuxhelp
[06:07] <Agent_bob> !wubi
[06:07]  * dthacker needs to do some vi tweaking
[06:07]  * Agent_bob never did learn to like vi

[06:07] <Dr_willis> dthacker,  :) thats what vim.tiny and the compatability mode caused.
[06:07] <PovAddict> heh
[06:07] <Dr_willis> dthacker,  a 3 min fix. :)
[06:08] <PovAddict> my iPod touch is seen as a *camera*
[06:08] <Fujisan> !vista
[06:09] <Agent_bob> hmmm going to have to cat zero to sda1   "scandisk" found all sorts of disk errors....
[06:09] <Dr_willis> use dd may be faster. :)
[06:09] <Agent_bob> think so ?
[06:09] <Fujisan> i see an error
[06:09] <Fujisan> double the
[06:09] <Dr_willis> be sure you dont use sda1 when you mean sda, and so forth also.
[06:09] <Fujisan> ;o
[06:09] <Fujisan> thundercats hooooooooooooooooo
[06:10] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis no just a partition     (yes that laptop has them, unlike all my other boxen)
[06:11] <Fujisan> !beer
[06:11] <Fujisan> !love
[06:11] <Fujisan> !hate
[06:11] <Agent_bob> YEAH! "ice-weasel"
[06:12] <Fujisan> hehe
[06:12] <PovAddict> stop playing with the bot and fix my OS
[06:12] <PovAddict> lol
[06:12] <Fujisan> !help
[06:12] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis i'm timming it.  i'll do both cat and dd to see which is faster
[06:12] <Fujisan> D:
[06:12] <PovAddict> lol @ !help
[06:12] <Fujisan> baba
[06:13] <Fujisan> nalioth
[06:13] <viperserv2> i installed nxserver but it's not in the dir
[06:13] <Fujisan> :)
[06:13] <Fujisan> Jucato
[06:13] <Fujisan> wake up :P
[06:13] <Fujisan> i need ya'll
[06:13] <PovAddict> argh
[06:13] <PovAddict> I keep having kde-window-decorator crash on me when I change any setting
[06:14] <PovAddict> *and* titlebar display corruption when compiz is in use
[06:14] <Fujisan> lol
[06:14] <nalioth> Fujisan: there are 296 other people here that can help you
[06:14] <Fujisan> which kde version?
[06:15] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  use /dev/random also :)
[06:15] <PovAddict> Fujisan: KDE 3, Kubuntu 8.04
[06:15] <Fujisan> sorry nalioth
[06:15] <PovAddict> no! /dev/random will be slow as hell
[06:15] <PovAddict> use /dev/urandom
[06:15] <Dr_willis> heck use /dev/dsp ! :)
[06:15] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis that would be cheeting.  i'll use zero on both
[06:15] <Fujisan> PovAddict that could be caused by lots of things
[06:16] <viperserv2> oh the package isn't there anymore
[06:16] <Agent_bob> that never would finish...
[06:16] <Fujisan> -i am novice newb-
[06:16] <Fujisan> i just boot into kubuntu whenever i want to be white and nerdy :P
[06:16] <Agent_bob> cli only and i'm not playing sound
[06:17] <Agent_bob> maybe psaux tho  :)))
[06:17] <Fujisan> kubuntu via andLinux is my preferred medicine :)))
[06:17] <viperserv2> hmm will other version of freenx work on ubuntu?
[06:17] <Fujisan> PovAddict but according to nalioth there are 296 other people here that can help you
[06:17] <Fujisan> :)
[06:18] <Agent_bob> Fujisan you can't be white and nerdy in kubuntu,  you can only be nerdy cause it's international
[06:18] <Fujisan> hehe
[06:18] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  yep. you may want to check the official freenx web site - see if they have newer packages
[06:18] <Fujisan> it was a reference to the song
[06:18] <Fujisan> Agent_bob
[06:18] <Fujisan> the werd al song
[06:18] <Fujisan> i didnt mean anything negative just a reference to that tune
[06:19] <Agent_bob> who's werd al ?
[06:19] <Fujisan> weird Al Yankovic
[06:19] <Agent_bob> :)
[06:19] <Fujisan> cant be bothered with spelling
[06:19]  * PovAddict points at #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:19] <Fujisan> PovAddict life is offtopic
[06:19] <Fujisan> :)
[06:19] <Fujisan> hence why it is temporary
[06:20] <Agent_bob> like duh,  i even got it without the 'i'
[06:20] <Agent_bob> :)
[06:21] <Agent_bob> PovAddict was someone working on something ?
[06:21] <PovAddict> Agent_bob: wtF
[06:21] <Agent_bob> oh man,  shots fired!  be back when.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  https://launchpad.net/~marceloshima/+archive     seems to have some. No idea how reliable they are.
[06:21] <PovAddict> yeah I bet people around the world are working on something
[06:29] <viperserv2> hmm how do i install a source?
[06:29] <Odd-rationale> !compile | viperserv2
[06:30] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: you can download the nxserver .deb from nomachine.com
[06:31] <viperserv2> .deb is that a binary version?
[06:31] <Odd-rationale> yes
[06:31] <Fujisan> http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9307/ubottuve0.png<-- this is a pic of me and ubottu hitting it off =p
[06:32] <PovAddict> eww vista
[06:32] <Fujisan> PovAddict
[06:32] <Fujisan> no
[06:32] <Fujisan> its a theme
[06:32] <Fujisan> borders
[06:32] <PovAddict> so what
[06:32] <Fujisan> its not vista
[06:32] <PovAddict> I know it's not
[06:32] <PovAddict> you're making it look like Vista
[06:33] <Fujisan> yes
[06:33] <PovAddict> I'm sick of themes that are just like Vista with a color or two changed - no originality anymore?
[06:33] <Odd-rationale> you can make linux look like whatever you want. who cares?
[06:34] <PovAddict> Odd-rationale: and I can say "eww" to whatever I want. who cares?
[06:34] <Fujisan> PovAddict you have a chip on your shoulder matey
[06:34] <Fujisan> be nice :)
[06:34] <Odd-rationale> not me... :P
[06:34] <Fujisan> be well be liked :D
[06:34] <PovAddict> well been asking questions here for a while, I'd say not a single useful answer so far
[06:35] <PovAddict> and you just go offtopic
[06:35] <PovAddict> then tell me to "be nice", when I'm not saying anything wrong...
[06:35] <viperserv2> hmm i am not sure what to get off that site
[06:35] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: let me show you...
[06:36] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: first, what have installed so far and from where
[06:36] <Dr_willis> https://launchpad.net/~marceloshima/+archive        had some debs and lines for the sources.list for hardy.
[06:36] <Odd-rationale> ?
[06:36] <Fujisan> PovAddict the virtue of patience is a virtue you still need to master young paddawan
[06:36] <Dr_willis> use at your own risk  - of course.
[06:36] <yao_ziyua1> can anyone suggest faster solutions than tor?
[06:37] <viperserv2> i installed vnc server ealier
[06:37] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: did you install any nx, freenx stuff?
[06:37] <viperserv2> not sure if it's runner
[06:37] <viperserv2> no
[06:38] <viperserv2> the server is a core2due with 4gb of ram i think. would vnc lag it down much?
[06:38] <Dr_willis> vnc needs a little bit of setting up. and it does not run by default as a service.
[06:38] <Odd-rationale> not too much
[06:38] <Dr_willis> the issue with vnc  is the connection between machines - which can make the desktop laggy
[06:38] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: are you running 32bit?
[06:39] <viperserv2> freenx is the same thing but smoother?
[06:39] <viperserv2> not sure
[06:39] <Dr_willis> freenx is a similer tool. but supposed to be faster
[06:39] <Dr_willis> I only use vnc on local lans.
[06:39] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: or are you running 64bit?
[06:39] <viperserv2> how do i get what os and system info?
[06:40] <Fujisan> Jucato :D
[06:40] <Fujisan> my tagalog linguel expert :)
[06:41] <Dr_willis> lsb_release -a      viperserv2
[06:41] <Agent_bob> -d
[06:42] <viperserv2> says nothing about the bit
[06:42] <viperserv2> so it might be the normal version
[06:42] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis it isn't finished but i can already tell you that  cat * > *    is more than twice as fast as  dd if=* of=*
[06:42] <Odd-rationale> well, if you don;'t know, then you are probably running 32bit...
[06:43] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: download the client, the node, and the server, and install them in that order.
[06:43] <Odd-rationale> http://www.nomachine.com/download-package.php?Prod_Id=5
[06:46] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: got that?
[06:46] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  there may be the reason one always sees dd used with a blocksize argument.
[06:46] <viperserv2> yeah
[06:47] <viperserv2> i am ul the nod and server to the server
[06:47] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis can't see that it would matter,  it defaults to bs=512
[06:47] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: ?
[06:47] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. i cant figure out freenx. :() lol. thats proberly why i always used vnc
[06:47] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: what are you doing?
[06:48] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  i  just recall always seeing dd examples with some bs options.  I normally just dd from cd/dvd disks to iso files.
[06:48] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis but doesn't dd 1.read write read compare 2.read write read compare 3....  ?
[06:48] <viperserv2> still ul those to the server
[06:48] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: what is ul :?
[06:49] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  i ALSo recall a special recovery dd variant for imaging bad disks that i think skiped some steps :)
[06:49] <Agent_bob> whereas cat readZ and the out is redirrected to the device...
[06:49] <Odd-rationale> upload?
[06:49] <viperserv2> yeah sorry
[06:49] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis hmmm   well the clock is still running and it looks like dd is at least three times slower than cat >  by defautl
[06:50] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: let me know when all is finished installing. (just double-click the .deb to open with gdebi-kde)
[06:50] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  file a bug! :)
[06:50] <viperserv2> well odd theres a problem
[06:50] <viperserv2> i can only ssh
[06:50] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: what is that?
[06:50] <Agent_bob> why?  it seems to be functioning like it was designed to Dr_willis ;/
[06:50] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: np
[06:50] <jonee> hello how are you able to set up wep in kubuntu?
[06:51] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: just do "sudo dpkg -i /pathto.deb
[06:51] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis or did you mean on your advice  :)))
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  reading up on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Dd    they  state the trade offs of using a small vs a large block size
[06:52] <Dr_willis> writing TO your disk  like you are a large BS would help a lot.
[06:53] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  Hmm. that url has some neat dd tricks. :)
[06:54] <Agent_bob> i still doubt that it can compair to cat >
[06:55] <Jack3> can someone that is good with grub take a look at this and possibly help me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=781157
[06:55] <viperserv2> dirno go
[06:55] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: ready for the next step?
[06:55] <Agent_bob> jack3 i'll look but i'm not claiming any grateness.
[06:56] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  im guessing theres some reason tht i see NO 'examples' or suggestions to use cat, over dd..  Heck i cant even find any examples on google with using 'cat' to do it.
[06:57] <Agent_bob> Jack3 do you have a live linux CD ?    booted in that system ?
[06:57] <jonee> can anyone help me setup my wep key in kubuntu?
[06:57] <viperserv2> it didn't install for some reason
[06:57] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: what did it say?
[06:58] <viperserv2> dpkg: error processing /pathto.deb (--install):
[06:58] <gwen> Greets, everyone...
[06:58] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: you were suppose to replace /pathto.deb with the corecct file path to the .deb file
[06:58] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: hold on...
[06:59] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis getting close to 4x the time...   and you said it might be faster :)))
[06:59]  * Agent_bob razzes the good doctor while he can  hehhe
[06:59] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  from the guide i just saw using the bs=40whatever the speeds should be identical
[06:59] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: the computer you want to be the nxserver, is not the computer you are on now?
[07:00] <viperserv2> no it's a server at a data center
[07:00] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis i'll test it when this one gets finished.   and it's 4096
[07:00] <Odd-rationale> an you want to remotely control that server with nx?
[07:00] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  some inte4ersting info on http://www.kernel.sg/roller/eugene/entry/cat_1_is_as_fast    also
[07:00] <gwen> I just installed Kubuntu Hardy on my aunt's desktop and GRUB is failing to load Windows XP - My menu.lst: http://www.pastebin.ca/1006731 - Any ideas?
[07:01] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  also it appears that one 'cat' is not always the same as another disrtos cat. :)
[07:01] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: an you want to remotely control that server with nx from you local computer?
[07:01] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: I'm tryin to understan your situation...
[07:01] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis it finished    exactly 4x as long.   i'll test with bs=4k now.
[07:01] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  then post a report.. :)
[07:02] <Dr_willis> with powerpoint graphs
[07:02] <Agent_bob> lol
[07:02] <Agent_bob> not a chance
[07:02] <viperserv2> yes
[07:02] <Dr_willis> Then try with bs=1gb
[07:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:02] <viperserv2> this computer is using vista
[07:02]  * Agent_bob wonders where jack3 went
[07:02] <viperserv2> server ubuntu 7.04
[07:02] <Dr_willis> I will have to rember to set the bs when i dd from cd/dvd disks to iso in the futyre also.
[07:02] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis why not 22g  seeing that's the partition size ;/
[07:03] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: right now, you are on your local (vista) computer, connecting to the remote computer via ssh?
[07:03] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  use 30g see ifyou can enlarge the disk
[07:03] <Agent_bob> ummm aren't cd's some wierd 1008 or something size ?
[07:03] <viperserv2> yes
[07:03] <viperserv2> i also have winscp connected
[07:04] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis i already know enough about dd to know that that will fail
[07:04] <Jack3> Agent_bob, oh gosh im sorry i totally forgot :(
[07:04] <Agent_bob> Jack3 do you have a live linux CD ?    booted in that system ?
[07:04] <Jack3> Agent_bob, yes i have a kubuntu bootable cd
[07:04] <Agent_bob> ok
[07:04] <Jack3> should i start it up?
[07:04] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: so you donwloaded the three .deb files already?
[07:05] <viperserv2> yeah there in the /home dl
[07:05] <Agent_bob> jack do this in a terminal and pastebin the results for me please     "cat /proc/partitions"    and what is the linux installation location ?
[07:05] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: thay are on your locale machine or the remote machine?
[07:05] <Agent_bob> jack3   yes running linux   do that  ^
[07:06] <viperserv2> both
[07:06] <ttread> gwen, can you access the Windows partition ok from Kubuntu?
[07:06] <Jack3> Agent_bob, linux is on a partition of the 120gb that is the first primary master drive during post.
[07:06] <Jack3> it is /dev/hde1
[07:06] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: where are they on the remote machine? what folders?
[07:06] <viperserv2> ./hom
[07:06] <viperserv2> ./home
[07:07] <Agent_bob> Jack3 ok but, just because you change the order of disks in bios; it does not mean that you change them in linux.   it does however mean that you changed the order in grub.  so we need to see where linux sees the disks and where bios sees them.  k
[07:07] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: ok so put the entire path to file. sudo dpkg -i /pathtofile
[07:07] <Odd-rationale> get it?
[07:08] <gwen> ttread: Yeah... And it shows up in the boot menu, but when I select it, it just says something to the effect of "Now starting..." and just hangs indefinitely (10+ minutes).
[07:08] <Jack3> Agent_bob, okay, sec live cd is still startin
[07:08] <Agent_bob> k
[07:09] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: remember to install the nxclient first.
[07:09] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis i'll know in less than a minute if it's as fast with bs=4096 or not
[07:09] <viperserv2> ah how do i install it?
[07:10] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  Im seeing no rhyme or reason or logic to the differnt bs= options  on these guides.
[07:10] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: do "sudo dpkg -i /path to nxclient.deb"
[07:10] <Dr_willis> ive seen them from 1024x1 x2 x3 and even a few with bs=200m :)
[07:10] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis i'm still thinking that the reason for the time differance is that dd tests it's write.
[07:10] <gwen> Is FreeNX/NXClient even available on Hardy yet? I tried earlier today with the Gutsy packages (the latest available from NoMachine's site) and was getting dependency issues.
[07:11] <Odd-rationale> gwen: really? I tried them them too and it worked...
[07:11] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis it's only slightly longer with bs=   it's 32 seconds longer than cat
[07:11] <Agent_bob> that for 22g write
[07:11] <gwen> Odd-rationale: All three (client, node and server)?
[07:11] <Odd-rationale> gwen: yes.
[07:12] <Agent_bob> 31.44 seconds actually
[07:12] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  from what i am gathering also.. any bs over 1mb can be slower then a smaller bs count
[07:12] <gwen> Strange. -_~
[07:12] <Odd-rationale> gwen: + the web plugin
[07:12] <gwen> Hmm
[07:12] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis 4k is optimum on hdd's
[07:12] <Jurgentje> Hi... I've got a problem: I can't mount my EXT3-drives from the Kubuntu Live CD (my system hangs, would like to alter my grub.conf file)
[07:12] <Agent_bob> most hdd's
[07:13] <Jurgentje> I get this error: hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 999
[07:13] <gwen> Odd-rationale: Thanks for the info. I'll have to give it another go, I guess.
[07:13] <Agent_bob> you want to write a full sector at a time.
[07:13] <gwen> ttread: Any ideas? :-)
[07:13] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: got it? or still won't install?
[07:13] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  yep. also there is  mention of sync and async. issues. but thats from one hd to another from what i gather in the posts
[07:13] <Jack3> http://pastebin.com/m18567a0b
[07:13] <ttread> gwen: Not off the top of my head, I'm googling around
[07:13] <Jack3> Agent_bob, thats for you haha
[07:13] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis yes should not matter at all on char device to block device
[07:14] <Agent_bob> jack3 looking
[07:14] <Dr_willis> I wonder if 4k is optimal for reading from a cd/dvd - I imagine so...
[07:14] <gwen> ttread: Same here. Thanks.
[07:14] <Sir_Corgi> Hello, can someone please help me?  I recently re-installed Firefox <IP_ADDRESS> after unstalling the 3b5 that Hardy installed, and now my Java plug-ins won't work.  I've tried uninstalling and re-installing them, but they still don't work.
[07:14] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis i think that at least cda is a funny size 1008 or some such
[07:15] <Agent_bob> Jack3 did i miss the   fdisk -l  post ?
[07:16] <Agent_bob> jack3 sorry if i over looked it some place   but i'd like to see it to
[07:17] <Jack3> okay ill grab it
[07:18] <Odd-rationale> viperserv2: hey, sorry. but I really got to go now. I'm sure others will be able to help you set it up. Good Luck!
[07:19] <Jack3> Agent_bob, http://pastebin.com/m11f06116
[07:20] <ttread> gwen: You could try changing the menu.lst so that the root (hd0,0) command in the windows section to rootnoverify (hd0,0) instead
[07:20] <ttread> gwen: see http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_toc.html#TOC14
[07:20] <Agent_bob> Jack3 in the terminal  do    sudo -i
[07:20] <Jack3> okay
[07:21] <Jack3> whats that do?
[07:21] <Agent_bob> Jack3 now do   mount /dev/hde1 /mnt
[07:21] <gwen> ttread: Cool, I'll give that a shot. Thanks a lot! :-)
[07:21] <Jack3> k done
[07:21] <Agent_bob> Jack3 grub-install --root-directory=/mnt
[07:22] <Agent_bob> err sorry
[07:22] <Agent_bob> Jack3 grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/hde
[07:23] <Jack3> just hde or hde1
[07:23] <Agent_bob> hde
[07:23] <Agent_bob> MBR of that disk.
[07:24] <Agent_bob> it will probably report a warning,  warnings are ok  errors are not.
[07:24] <viperserv2> freenx not working?
[07:24] <viperserv2> well it don't work for ubunto?
[07:24] <Jack3> Agent_bob, i messed with the device.map on that disk too,, i will  pastebin the original and the new one.
[07:25] <Agent_bob> jack3 only the new one    will be fine
[07:25] <Jack3> Agent_bob, http://pastebin.com/m57baca7
[07:25] <Agent_bob> k
[07:26] <gwen> ttread: No joy, thanks anyway though...
[07:26] <Agent_bob> Jack3 if your bios boots hde first you need to put it like the old one
[07:27] <Jack3> k will do
[07:27] <Agent_bob> Jack3 lets see  /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst too
[07:28] <Agent_bob> Jack3 /mnt/boot/grub/device.map  and  /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst     when you get done editing the device.map
[07:30] <ttread> gwen, too bad
[07:30]  * Agent_bob cautions Jack3 to not forget the /mnt/   we don't want to work on /boot/*   it's in ram
[07:31] <Jack3> Agent_bob, i know that atleast ;) :D
[07:31] <Agent_bob> wasn't trying to imply that you didn't,   jsut that anyone can overlook that.
[07:32] <Agent_bob> many have  ;/    specally old linux hands.    habbits formed in the installation can make for mistakes in the liveCF
[07:34] <Agent_bob> cd even
[07:34] <Jack3> hehe :D
[07:34]  * Agent_bob == typo king of channel
[07:34] <Agent_bob> i stole that title from intelikey
[07:35] <Sakui> argh
[07:35] <Jack3> Agent_bob, http://pastebin.com/m3ee53ac3
[07:36] <Agent_bob> looking
[07:36] <Sakui> kde window manager is crashing when I edit something in kcontrol >:(
[07:37] <Agent_bob> Jack3 ok change (hd2,0) (hd0,0)   in menu.lst
[07:39] <Jack3> Agent_bob, all traces of hd2,0 change to hd0,0?
[07:39] <viperserv2> how would i go about taking 2 drives out of marrior with ssh?
[07:40] <Agent_bob> Jack3  yes,   and you have windows on hdf1 ?   and sdb1 ?    if so  you'll have to change the  listing for Microsoft Windows XP Professional shows to be on the same partition as your linux install  hde1
[07:41] <Jack3> Agent_bob, non working windows partitions, i dont want them booting
[07:42] <Agent_bob> it is really on (hd3,0)      and you can comment them out and leave them there if you want.
[07:42] <Agent_bob> not (hd0,0)   ^  the XP line
[07:45] <Jack3> how do i do the # sign in vi?
[07:46] <Agent_bob> Jack3 [ins]  enters insert mode    i think
[07:46] <Agent_bob> then it's normal type writer
[07:46] <Agent_bob> [esc] brings you back to command mode    iirc
[07:47] <viperserv2> i have 2 hds in raid1 there anyway to get them into raid0 or unraid them with ssh?
[07:49] <Jack3> Agent_bob, when i press shift + 3 it screws up
[07:49] <Agent_bob> Jack3 here's a thought for you from my own config http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d1555fbb1  notice the last four enterys "bounce" to the next disks boatloader   that way if you install say windows on sdb you can let it install it's boot loader on the MBR of that disk and just switch the bios to boot from your linux disk once installed   then to boot windows you select the disk and let it's own boot loader take over
[07:49] <Agent_bob> Jack3 use nano   /
[07:50] <Agent_bob> like i said,  just a thought.
[07:51]  * Agent_bob has three bootloaders on his box
[07:53] <Agent_bob> all three of which can "bounce" to the other two, meaning i can bootload bootloaders all day if i want...
[07:54] <Sir_Corgi> YES!!!! w00t!
[07:54] <Jack3> Agent_bob, how do i save in nano?
[07:55] <Sir_Corgi> I finally have Java on FF2!
[07:55] <Agent_bob> [ctrl]+X
[07:55] <Agent_bob> the menu is at the bottom of the screen
[07:55] <Agent_bob> ^ == [ctrl] key
[07:57] <jonee> which is better wpa2 enterprise or personal?
[07:58] <Jack3> Agent_bob, after all that still error 17 :'(
[07:58] <Agent_bob> Jack3 you do have bios set to boot hde first ?
[07:59] <Agent_bob> not the sata but the ide disk
[07:59] <Jack3> yes i do
[08:00] <Agent_bob> ok boot the the menu and hit [esc]
[08:00] <Jack3> im there
[08:00] <Agent_bob> select the ubuntu
[08:00] <Agent_bob> hit e
[08:00] <Agent_bob> not enter.  the e key
[08:01] <Agent_bob> you there ?
[08:02] <Jack3> Agent_bob, wait boot what?
[08:02] <Agent_bob> [esc]  (select ubuntu)  [e]  (select root) [e]   change  (hd0,0) to  (hd2,0)   [enter]  [b]
[08:03] <Jack3> when booting the computer?
[08:03] <Jack3> it just goes straight to error 17 ...
[08:03] <Agent_bob> yes at grubs menu        that's the full instructions to test
[08:03] <Agent_bob> oh..
[08:03] <Agent_bob> ok  ummm we have to find a way to tell it where grub really is.
[08:03] <Jack3> yeah esc doesnt do anything
[08:05] <Agent_bob> Jack3    what is happening to you is this.   you boot the live CD and the bios is not the same as when you later try to boot the linux install.     i have fought with this before.    it's never fun tho.     not any chance you can disable the sata disks and install grub then reconnect them is there ?
[08:06] <Jack3> Agent_bob, i dont ahve sata, its an pci IDE card
[08:06] <Jack3> i can take that card out though...
[08:07] <ek247> hello
[08:07] <Agent_bob> all but the hde and hdf   ?
[08:07] <ek247> I am new to the chat
[08:08] <ek247> is everyone here use linux
[08:08] <Jack3> Agent_bob, yeah io can
[08:08] <ek247> hi rosco
[08:08] <Agent_bob> jack that might be the easiest
[08:08] <ek247> hi jack
[08:09] <ek247> hi agent jack
[08:09] <viperserv2> well it seems i can shutdown a array
[08:10] <ek247> do you have private chat person 2 person
[08:10] <ek247> hi dekans
[08:11] <Agent_bob> steps are like this  1. disable the other disks   2. boot the live CD    3. mount the hde1 on /mnt    4. grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/hde  "shouldn't need to change the config this time. but you might back it up."   5. power down reconnect the other disks   6. test   @ jack3
[08:12] <Agent_bob> i need a marble to lay on the f key on this lappy so i don't have to press f ...
[08:14] <Dekans> ek247: hello
[08:14] <viperserv2> there anyway to disable raid in ssh?
[08:15] <viperserv2> raid1=back :(
[08:15] <viperserv2> bad
[08:16] <ek247> hi dekans
[08:16] <ek247> are you a regular here
[08:17] <ek247> dekans
[08:18] <ek247> iam trying to register so i can do a prvate one on one
[08:18] <ek247> dekans
[08:19] <ek247> this linux system is fairly new to me
[08:19] <ek247> and i came here to seek some help/advice
[08:19] <ek247> dekans
[08:19] <Agent_bob> ek247 actually pm=private messaging   without being invited is kinda frowned upon.  if you just want to chat there are channels for that.   #kubuntu-offtopic is ont.
[08:19] <Agent_bob> one
[08:20] <Agent_bob> ek247 if you have help related questions feel free to ask.
[08:20] <ek247> yes I read i need to register first
[08:20] <Agent_bob> !patience
[08:21] <Agent_bob> ek247 only to PM people.  and you probably don't need to do that yet.
[08:21] <Agent_bob> but that's not my choice, it's yours.
[08:21] <ek247> is this a help chat room
[08:21] <Agent_bob> !register | ek247
[08:21] <Agent_bob> yes it is ek247
[08:22] <ek247> ok you all are administer
[08:22] <ek247> i'll be back
[08:22] <Agent_bob> ek247 oh.  and welcome to ubuntu.
[08:23] <viperserv2> hmm i killed my raid
[08:23] <viperserv2> how do u mount sata hds?
[08:24] <ek247> is this for developers or individuals pls
[08:24] <Agent_bob> viperserv2 sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt    where 'a' is the disk and 1 is the partition   fdisk -l  will list them for you
[08:24] <ek247> ty bob
[08:24] <Agent_bob> ek247 for both developers and normal user   to help each other with kubuntu issues.
[08:25] <ek247> ok
[08:25] <ek247> brb
[08:25] <Agent_bob> !kubuntu
[08:26] <Jack3> Agent_bob, i am an idiot
[08:27] <Jack3> the drive that i set to have the bios boot first, is SDA1 not HDE1
[08:27] <Agent_bob> :)     sorry   :)
[08:27] <Helios> Does anyone knows how can i install a virtual drive on my kubuntu so i can mount .iso or nrg images?
[08:28] <Helios> Does anyone know how can i install a virtual drive on my kubuntu so i can mount .iso or .nrg images?
[08:28] <Agent_bob> Jack3 not to rub salt in an open wound   but if you don't answer my questions correctly,  i can't help you  :)
[08:28] <ek247> I am confused now cause i can't seem to find the registration
[08:29] <Agent_bob> !register | ek247
[08:29] <dalgo> hello all linux users :)
[08:29] <ek247> i am not a group or oganization
[08:29] <Lynoure> Helios: mount -o loop disk1.iso /mnt/yourmountpoint
[08:29] <emonkey> Helios, with kiso you can mount an iso
[08:29] <Agent_bob> ek247   /msg nickserv help register
[08:30] <Agent_bob> /msg nickserv help register
[08:30] <Lynoure> but gone now
[08:30] <Agent_bob> ek247 ^ that will help you.
[08:30] <Helios> thanks
[08:30] <viperserv2> hmm i unmounted md2
[08:30] <GothicD3vil> hi
[08:30] <dalgo> is in latest Kubuntu dvd includes Emerald Theme manager and is it work on kubuntu?
[08:31] <GothicD3vil> how can i install a .deb file like limewire?
[08:31] <ek247> ok ill try
[08:31] <Agent_bob> Lynoure i don't know if you caught my binary exit message    glad to hear that you got it streight with so simple of a command,   i did make a note  xrandr --auto
[08:31] <naut> Best tv client software?
[08:32] <llutz> !best | naut
[08:32] <shaffy> can someone tell me how to run a scandisk/filesystem check on an external usb hd?
[08:32] <xt828> i don't suppose it's possible to upgrade from an x86 to x86_64 install?
[08:32] <GothicD3vil> !limewire
[08:33] <kristian__> hi
[08:33] <Boyke_buntu> please anyone help me
[08:33] <Boyke_buntu> i cannot startx with my account
[08:33] <Boyke_buntu> it says cannot write to /temp
[08:33] <Agent_bob> shaffy fdisk -l  to list the fs addressing   and    fsck /dev/<that address>
[08:33] <Boyke_buntu> what should i do?
[08:34] <shaffy> Agent_bob: thanks you :)
[08:34] <Agent_bob> shaffy example might look like:    sudo fsck /dev/sdb2
[08:34] <Boyke_buntu> what should i do?
[08:34] <llutz> shaffy: make sure the drive isn't mountet
[08:34] <Agent_bob> or  sudo fsck.vfat /dev/sdc1   or something.
[08:34] <llutz> d
[08:35] <cahuez> boyke, are you in console mode..?
[08:35] <Boyke_buntu> howbout me?
[08:35] <Boyke_buntu> ya
[08:35] <Boyke_buntu> no
[08:35] <Boyke_buntu> im using root
[08:35] <Boyke_buntu> and it start the x
[08:35] <viperserv2> anyone good with raid here?
[08:35] <cahuez> ok..
[08:35] <cahuez> but you started well a kde session right..?
[08:36] <Boyke_buntu> ya
[08:36] <Agent_bob> Boyke_buntu    ls -l /tmp
[08:36] <Helios> hey i upgraded from kubuntu 7.10 to 8.04 KDE4 Remix...
[08:36] <Boyke_buntu> yes
[08:36] <Boyke_buntu> and
[08:37] <Agent_bob> Boyke_buntu sorry   ls -ld /tmp   and show me.
[08:37] <Boyke_buntu> how to show u?
[08:37] <Helios> the problem is that after i installed it... when i installed an application which requires the cd... it did not recognise my cd...
[08:37] <Boyke_buntu> just copy and paste?
[08:37] <Helios> can anyone help me please?
[08:37] <sirmike1970md> can someone help  i stopped something in k and i cant get a internet connection
[08:37] <Agent_bob> it will only be one line
[08:37] <Boyke_buntu> alot
[08:38] <Agent_bob> not form    ls -ld /tmp
[08:38] <Boyke_buntu> drwx------ 3 root root 4096 2008-05-04 14:17<PHONE_NUMBER>
[08:38] <Boyke_buntu> total 24
[08:38] <cahuez> boyke, test it ls -ls /tmp in console ..
[08:38] <Helios> i had to disable the cd rom repository to be able to install the packages...
[08:38] <Agent_bob> Boyke_buntu no. cahuez -ls ?   no    -ld
[08:38] <Agent_bob>   ls  -ld   /tmp
[08:39] <cahuez> yeap..
[08:39] <Agent_bob> one line of output form that  ^   i want to see it.
[08:39] <cahuez> mine> drwxrwxrwt 10 root root 4096 2008-05-04 01:37 /tmp ..
[08:39] <Agent_bob> cahuez that's correct.
[08:39] <shaffy> Agent_bob: fdisk -l doesn't give me anything
[08:39] <Agent_bob> i'm thinking his is not.
[08:39] <Boyke_buntu> drwx------ 3 root root 4096 2008-05-04 14:17<PHONE_NUMBER>
[08:39] <Boyke_buntu> bash: drwx------: command not found
[08:39] <cahuez> humm..!
[08:40] <Agent_bob> Boyke_buntu ok    sudo chmod 1777 /tmp
[08:40] <Agent_bob> that should fix you
[08:40] <Agent_bob> shaffy   fdisk -l /dev/sd*
	is in latest Kubuntu dvd includes Emerald Theme manager and is it work on kubuntu?
[08:40] <xt828> is it possible to upgrade from an x86 to an AMD64 install?
[08:40] <Agent_bob> shaffy and it may spit out errors
[08:41] <Boyke_buntu> done
[08:41] <Agent_bob> xt828 upgrade  no.   reload yes
[08:41] <cahuez> xt828, you need a amd_64 distro as well..
[08:41] <Boyke_buntu> can i re login with my account?
[08:41] <Agent_bob> Boyke_buntu  just type   startx  to test it.
[08:41] <Boyke_buntu> ok
[08:41] <Boyke_buntu> thanks
[08:41] <shaffy> Agent_bob: i used to use a command "blkid" and it use to spit out all the partitions and drives.  but it doesn't seem to work in 8.04?
[08:41] <cahuez> aroaroux..!
[08:41] <Agent_bob> or are you in X now ?
[08:42] <xt828> how do you mean 'reload'?  is there a walkthrough or something?
[08:42] <Gokee2> Why is xdmx here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+package/xdmx with packages but not in the repository?
[08:42] <Agent_bob> shaffy yes but i think you'll have to supply a switch to "reread" the disks with blkid      ?
[08:42] <emonkey> I've got a problem, my knetmanager isn't anymore in the control list since the update to hardy, I see the pricess with ps -A|grep knet and it do not help if I kill it and start a new one. any suggestions?
[08:42] <emonkey> s/pricess/process/
[08:43] <Agent_bob> xt828 i mean reinstall.   there's not a supported way to upgrade from one architecture to another
[08:43] <Choreboy> can someone answer something for me... I want to install Kubuntu 8.04, is there a way to get i686 instead of i386?
[08:43] <xt828> Agent_bob: righto, so how could I do that while keeping my settings and suchlike?
[08:44] <ccc4> odd help plz
[08:44] <Agent_bob> Choreboy there's no i686 optimization  no.  it's generic i386 for all x86 versions
[08:44] <ccc4> how do i find ma usb in kubunto
[08:44] <Choreboy> I could swear I read somewhere that there was... oh well.
[08:44] <ccc4> im a newbiee
[08:44] <shaffy> Agent_bob: after fdisk -l /dev/sd*, how do i know which is the one i want to fsck?  they are ambiguous.
[08:44] <Agent_bob> xt828 $HOME will not be affected if it's on a seperate partition
[08:45] <xt828> Agnet_bob: time to find out how to migrate /home to a seperate partition then
[08:45] <Agent_bob> shaffy umm size ?    partition type ?     use the command    mount  to see what's mounted where.
[08:45] <xt828> cheers
[08:45] <boyke_buntu> im back
[08:45] <boyke_buntu> im still cannot login with my accounts
[08:45] <boyke_buntu> now im using root
[08:45] <sirmike1970md> i'm stuck by accident i closed something in my tray and now i cant connect to the net
[08:46] <boyke_buntu> still the same problem
[08:46] <xt828> sirmike1970md: i'm pretty sure you're connected to the net right now
[08:46] <boyke_buntu> cannot write to /tmp
[08:46] <Agent_bob> xt828 cd / ; sudo tar -czvf my_home.tgz  /home    then store /my_home.tgz file anywhere
[08:46] <Choreboy> Is there any reason I can't install Kubuntu on a XFS file system?
[08:46] <sirmike1970md> sorry from my other comp
[08:46] <Agent_bob> xt828 but it may be big.
[08:46] <Agent_bob> Choreboy no.
[08:47] <Choreboy> ok thanks
[08:47] <Agent_bob> boyke_buntu ok   lets see what you have mounted there.   mount | grep tmp
[08:48] <boyke_buntu> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[08:48] <boyke_buntu> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[08:48] <boyke_buntu> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[08:48] <boyke_buntu> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[08:48] <boyke_buntu> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[08:48] <Agent_bob> ok.   i guess i should have used a /
[08:48] <cahuez> boyke, do a > whoami ..
[08:49] <xt828> Agent_bob: is there any reason that I can't just copy-paste everything from within Konquerer - I have showing hidden files and folders enabled
[08:49] <Agent_bob> boyke_buntu or     sudo echo boo
[08:49] <boyke_buntu> boo
[08:49] <Agent_bob> xt828 umm to where ?
[08:49] <xt828> to a ready partition
[08:50] <Agent_bob> boyke_buntu ok  and you did     sudo chmod 1777 /tmp
[08:50] <Agent_bob> ?
[08:50] <Agent_bob> xt828 what fs ?
[08:50] <xt828> ext3
[08:50] <Agent_bob> xt828 k   that's fine.
[08:50] <Agent_bob> xt828 you do know that /home != $HOME  /
[08:51] <Agent_bob> ?
[08:51] <Agent_bob> i.e.  $HOME = ~ = /home/$USER   by default anyway
[08:51] <Adapter48> !seen catweazle
[08:51] <ek247> i keep get refefered back to group registration, i'm an idividual trying to get some help with my ubuntu
[08:52] <viperserv2> anyone here use mdamd?
[08:52] <Agent_bob> ek247 so why register then ?   just suscently desctibe the issue you are having in here,  if anyone knows the information you need they will answer you.
[08:52] <Agent_bob> mdadm ?
[08:52] <ek247> do I have to use ok
[08:53] <boyke_buntu> sorry
[08:53] <viperserv2> for raiding drives
[08:53] <boyke_buntu> agent bob i did sudo chmod 1777 /tmp
[08:53] <Agent_bob> boyke_buntu ok  lets see the results one more time of     ls -ld /tmp
[08:53] <ek247> well my ubuntu froze up when I installed a linux version of explorer
[08:54] <boyke_buntu> drwxrwxrwt 10 root root 4096 2008-05-04 14:42 /tmp
[08:54] <xt828> Agnet_bob so if i set the home partition to be what i currently have mounted as /media/sda3 then my home path would be in /media/sda3/xt828 or /media/sda3/home/xt828 ?
[08:54] <Agent_bob> boyke_buntu ok that's correct now.   and   startx    still doesn't work for you?
[08:54] <boyke_buntu> no if im using ordinary accounts not my root
[08:54] <Agent_bob> the former xt828
[08:55] <Agent_bob> the current /media/sda3 will be mounted on /home so that anything in /media/sda3/  will then appear in /home/
[08:55] <xt828> Agent_bob, cheers, that's what i thought
[08:56] <boyke_buntu> it said must be check
[08:56] <cstorstenson> I hope this isn't rude, I'm kinda a n00b, but I was wondering if anyone could give me a hand getting screenlet manager to run in kubuntu 8.06
[08:56] <boyke_buntu> 2 files
[08:56] <Agent_bob> boyke_buntu wait?    you can or can not login as normal user ?
[08:56] <boyke_buntu> yes
[08:56] <Agent_bob> yes can ?
[08:56] <boyke_buntu> i can login
[08:56] <boyke_buntu> but i cannot start x\
[08:56] <Agent_bob> boyke_buntu but you can not as root ?
[08:56] <boyke_buntu> but i cannot start x
[08:56] <ek247> mil are you avail
[08:56] <Agent_bob> boyke_buntu is x already running ?
[08:57] <boyke_buntu> if im using root i can start x
[08:57] <boyke_buntu> but if im login as a normal user it said cannot write to /tmp
[08:57] <ek247> melkart r u avail.
[08:57] <boyke_buntu> and cannot start the x
[08:58] <cstorstenson> I mean 8.04
[08:58] <ek247> I AM SO LOST HERE???
[08:58] <Agent_bob> boyke_buntu ok.  try this.    sudo killall -9 X ;sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop ;sudo rm /tmp/* -r
[08:58] <ek247> CAN'T TELL WHO IS STAFF OR WHO IS PLAIN USER
[08:58] <Agent_bob> boyke_buntu then try   startx
[08:59] <boyke_buntu> ok
[08:59] <SSJ_GZ> ek247: What's the problem?
[08:59] <Agent_bob> ek247 most are user.
[08:59] <boyke_buntu> how to change user?
[08:59] <SSJ_GZ> ek247: What does it matter who is staff and who are users?
[08:59] <ek247> your kiddingme!
[08:59] <ek247> bob
[08:59] <Agent_bob> ek247 no he's not.
[09:00] <cstorstenson> not trying to flood, but I could use some help getting screenlets manager working if anyone has experience.
[09:00] <Agent_bob> ek247 you are new to opensource ?
[09:00] <chisiyuan>  i need a lightweigh music player either of GUI or in command line. Anyone has an idea?
[09:00] <ek247> i gues i need 2 b programmer to b here
[09:00] <SSJ_GZ> ek247: Again, most people here are users.
[09:00] <ek247> yes 4 months new
[09:00] <SSJ_GZ> ek247: What problem are you having exactly?
[09:01] <ek247> well my other computer with ubuntu froze
[09:02] <Agent_bob> ek247 my first question would be this.   did you get the system "unhung"  and my second question would be "why on earth are you trying to install 'explorer' in linux"    and my third question would be do you know anything about debian packages yet ?
[09:02] <Agent_bob> !apt | ek247 please read this
[09:02] <Agent_bob> !Adept | ek247 following that.
[09:03] <ek247> don't know what un hung means
[09:03] <Agent_bob> no longer "froze" as you put it.
[09:04] <ek247> know this is really my system and my friends system froze
[09:04] <ek247> she wanted to put IEon not me
[09:05] <ek247> I know linux and microsft don't get along
[09:05] <xt828> there's a linux version of IE?
[09:05] <Agent_bob> ek247 there is also the possability that english may not be your first language,  if so you can check for a kubuntu help channel of your language with  !??  where ?? is the two letter country code   like this
[09:05] <Agent_bob> !es
[09:05] <ek247> I know about the adept manager
[09:07] <ek247> it's the techno terms that lose me that is all
[09:07] <Jack3> Agent_bob, i fixed it,. i am a huge idiot
[09:07] <Agent_bob> ok.  just trying to help all i can.
[09:07] <Jack3> i had confused which physical drive i actually installed linux on lol
[09:07] <Jack3> i found out it was the maxtor 120gb
[09:07] <Agent_bob> Jack3 welcome to the club.  but get in line, :)))
[09:07] <Jack3> so i made that master and everything and it works fine now
[09:07] <ek247> I appreciate all u helping
[09:08] <Jack3> thanks a lot for the help Agent_bob
[09:08] <Agent_bob> welcome
[09:08] <ek247> just frustrated a little
[09:08] <prince_jammys> ek247: describe in detail what you did, and what happened
[09:08] <Agent_bob> ek247 understandable.   at least we don't make you talk to a recording to calm you down like some companies/orgenizations...
[09:09] <ek247> we have intall ubuntu 3 times
[09:09] <prince_jammys> ek247: you installed something called IEs4Linux ?
[09:09] <ek247> I like ubuntu I do but my roomate doesn't
[09:10] <ek247> they won't spend the money for the windows
[09:11] <Agent_bob>     side note.  nothing i know of ticks me off more than an automated system calling my house late at night ...   "is this so and so <pause> i'm sorry i didn't understand you, is this so and so <pause> ok would you ask so and so to come to the phone <pause> "  and i haven't said even hello yet....     really ticks me off.    i refuse to talk to any machine.
[09:11] <ek247> I hate vista and anything microsoft related personally
[09:12]  * Agent_bob likes ek247 already  :)
[09:12] <ek247> feelings mutual
[09:13] <ek247> I really not techy but want to be
[09:13] <ek247> I wish linux had a school
[09:13] <Agent_bob> prince_jammys you here for a while ?   i have things i need to do.
[09:14] <prince_jammys> i'm off pretty soon
[09:14] <Agent_bob> ;/
[09:14] <prince_jammys> it's late
[09:14] <Agent_bob> heh it's early
[09:14] <ek247> I would go so I could teach linux at regular school about linux
[09:14] <prince_jammys> it's getting so late over here, it's about to be early
[09:15] <Agent_bob> tz matters i guess.
[09:16] <Agent_bob> prince_jammys well maybe someone can fill in for us.  i'm out.
[09:16] <Agent_bob> shalom !
[09:16] <prince_jammys> bye
[09:16] <ek247> bob
[09:17] <ek247> jak
[09:17] <ek247> anybody
[09:17] <ek247> are we closing the channel
[09:17] <xt828> i'm not real skilled, but i might be able to help
[09:17] <xt828> what exactly is the problem?
[09:19] <ek247> well i told bob that I was tryin to get some help with seeing some images and hearing sound on the web page
[09:19] <ek247> it is not showingup
[09:20] <ek247> hi synergy
[09:20] <ek247> the flas won't install right
[09:20] <Jack3> does kubuntu come with compiz?
[09:21] <ek247> sure!!
[09:21] <ek247> I haven't installed it yet
[09:21] <Jack3> ! compiz
[09:21] <Jack3> lol
[09:21] <Jack3> guess not
[09:22] <ek247> yes compis
[09:22] <morphius_> I am getting the following error: "trying to create local folder //.kde/share: Permission denied"
[09:22] <xt828> ek247: so did you install the Kubuntu restricted extras and Macromedia Flash packages from within Add/Remove Programs?
[09:22] <morphius_> any idea how to resolve?
[09:23] <ek247> not the restricted no
[09:23] <ek247> first off I have ubuntu 8.04
[09:23] <xt828> the restricted extras includes the plugins for stuff like mp3 playback and flash
[09:23] <xt828> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:24] <ek247> ubuntu
[09:24] <ek247> its the new version
[09:24] <xt828> you know that this is the kubutnu channel, right?  #ubuntu deals more with ubuntu-specific stuff
[09:24] <viperserv2> how do u unraid?
[09:24] <ek247> oh, i feel stupid
[09:25] <ek247> sorry?
[09:26] <viperserv2> well your not the only linux n00b here hehe
[09:26] <xt828> what do you mean, unraid?
[09:26] <Jack3> are there any repositories for hardy?
[09:26] <ek247> so is this irc for regular people or developers
[09:26] <ek247> sure
[09:27] <ek247> there are?
[09:27] <xt828> this is the IRC for users of Kubuntu
[09:27] <viperserv2> both
[09:28] <ek247> I wish they gave you a list tof recomended software you need
[09:28] <viperserv2> if there was only dev in here without ops we would be helped by now hehe
[09:29] <ek247> my friend and I will probably reinstall
[09:29] <xt828> i don't know about ubuntu, but kubuntu comes with everything that you need that is under a free license
[09:29] <ek247> is kbuntu like kde desktop
[09:30] <xt828> it's essentially ubuntu with kde instead of gnome, iirc
[09:30] <ek247> what do you know about fedor8
[09:31] <xt828> very little
[09:31] <xt828> in a practical sense
[09:31] <ek247> fedora 8
[09:31] <ek247> oh?
[09:31] <ek247> we tryed it
[09:31] <holyguyver_> If you are asking about fadora8 I would say you are in the wrong irc channel :p
[09:32] <holyguyver_> !off-toppic
[09:32] <ek247> was to where are the other channels
[09:32] <holyguyver_> try #fadora
[09:32] <ek247> the channel directory
[09:33] <xt828> the fedora website would probably have some information on an irc channel you could use for help
[09:34] <ek247> thaks every one I am swichin to another channel to help with specific problem
[09:35] <holyguyver_> anyway my sound works fine, but my micraphone doesn't work, & I have tried to different working mics so it is obviously not the mics, so is there anything I can do since it must be on the chips side of things?
[09:36] <holyguyver_> Also what is the terminal cammand to show me what all of my hardware is?
[09:36] <ere4si> lshw
[09:39] <holyguyver_> So here is my hardware http://paste.ubuntu.com/9940/ anything to help me be able to record things with my mic?
[09:41] <holyguyver_> Also is my amount of ram good?
[09:42] <wayneandleanne> anybody got any ideas on enabling the second audio output on a asrock k7vt4a+ motherboard
[09:42] <holyguyver_> similar problem to me, but I need to figure out how to get mic input to work :p
[09:43] <wayneandleanne> whats the board
[09:43] <holyguyver_> I gerentie it is different from yours since I am on a 1998 gateway
[09:44] <holyguyver_> Here is my hardware http://paste.ubuntu.com/9940/
[09:44] <wayneandleanne> holyguyver: check in kmix, when i installed kubuntu the mic ws muted and switched off in switches
[09:44] <holyguyver_> I already checked that & unmuted the mic a few days ago, & still nothing
[09:45] <wayneandleanne> mic boost?
[09:46] <wayneandleanne> stupid question time, does the mic work?
[09:46] <holyguyver_> Yes, I even bought a brand new second mic & I tried them both in windows & they work
[09:46] <holyguyver_> As for mic boost, what is that?
[09:48] <TeslaTony> Does anyone know how to change the font size in the terminal (what you see when you type ctrl+alt+F1)?
[09:49] <wayneandleanne> re: mic boost, it boost's your voice by 20 Db
[09:49] <holyguyver_> As I said how do I activate it?
[09:49] <wayneandleanne> does the mic work in windows?
[09:49] <wayneandleanne> sorry two secs
[09:49] <holyguyver_> I jyst said they both work in windows
[09:50] <wayneandleanne> sorry multiple chats going on, geting confused
[09:50] <holyguyver_> I said "I tried them both in windows & they work"
[09:50] <foormea> hi
[09:50] <holyguyver_> O Okay :p
[09:50] <carl> helo does anybody know how to set a static ip in kubuntu gutsy without network manager messing up
[09:51] <carl> for wireless
[09:51] <carl> it works with dchp
[09:51] <holyguyver_> Yes I forgot to mention that I am on Gutsy as well.
[09:51] <wayneandleanne> right click on kmix and select show mixer windows, kmix will appear, select switches mic boost will be there
[09:51] <holyguyver_> just to let you know I am on xubuntu :p
[09:52] <foormea> my kde system is in english. i need keyboard support for french and chinese. i don't know how i managed to get that but now i can switch english/french with ctrl-alt-K. problem is, french accents only work properly in a few programs... any idea how to fix that?    other problem: chinese: in some programs, such as xchat, i cannot switch to chinese input... any idea?!    (these keyboard layouts work fine under gnome)
[09:52] <wayneandleanne> hmmmm xubuntu, gimme two secs
[09:52] <holyguyver_> I found it :)
[09:52] <Jucato> holyguyver_: no help in #xubuntu ? :)
[09:52] <holyguyver_> same process with switches :p
[09:52] <holyguyver_> No help in xubuntu, but don't worry it worked the same :p
[09:53] <holyguyver_> I clicked on show switches & it was there :p
[09:53] <holyguyver_> Alright let me give it a try now :p
[09:53] <wayneandleanne> ok, let me know either way,
[09:54] <holyguyver_> Nothing, just made the static louder :p
[09:56] <holyguyver_> I also tried both mic 1 & 2 switch & mix & mic switch in the switches
[09:56] <wayneandleanne> hmm humor me, are the speakers and mic plugged in correctly??
[09:56] <holyguyver_> Yes silly :p
[09:56] <holyguyver_> I was actually listening to music right before testing this :p
[09:57] <wayneandleanne> ok, just to rule that out
[09:57] <holyguyver_> Also my original question said "my speakers work fine, but I can't get my mics to work"
[09:57] <wayneandleanne> true
[09:57] <wayneandleanne> what sound system are you running?
[09:58] <wayneandleanne> oss, alsa ?
[09:58] <holyguyver_> What are you asking for? would you like me to give you my hardware again?
[09:58] <holyguyver_> Alsa
[09:58] <wayneandleanne> no this is a software thing, what were you playing music in?
[09:58] <holyguyver_> totem
[09:59] <holyguyver_> as said I am using alsa
[09:59] <wayneandleanne> check if you can confgure alsa in totem
[09:59] <wayneandleanne> are we talking about 3.5 milli jack plug mic's?
[09:59] <shaffy> does anyone know how to get the audio to work in 3gp video files?  (using any player)
[10:00] <holyguyver_> we are talking about ones that their blugs are like those of walkman headphones
[10:00] <wayneandleanne> ye 3.5 mm,
[10:01] <wayneandleanne> so that rules out usb-audio, is the xubuntu a live cd?
[10:01] <holyguyver_> Anyway I am trying to record in Audicity, shouldn't I try & see about configuring it in that?
[10:01] <malik__> i installed new kde4 kubuntu but i cant access my ntfs partitions .........can any1 help?
[10:01] <holyguyver_> No this is a full install
[10:02] <TeslaTony> shaffy: Have you installed any of the medibuntu packages?
[10:02] <droetker> @shaffy:   i got it work with mplayer.
[10:02] <droetker> but i think not the ubuntu one, but the one from their homepage.
[10:02] <holyguyver_> I would hate to have been using a live CD for the past 2 weeks :p
[10:02] <wayneandleanne> try and grab a live cd, (bandwidth allowing) to test if something went wrong during install
[10:03] <wayneandleanne> no not are you running a live cd, did you install using a live cd
[10:03] <holyguyver_> Yes, I did install using a live CD
[10:03] <casper__> hey....is there a way of getting my gnome to look more like kde....withought actually installing kubuntu?
[10:04] <cahuez> casper, switch between kde/gnome but, I like more kde stuff..
[10:04] <hellhound> i have just upgraded to kubuntu hardy heron and noticed that on secondary windows (windows that open within an application such as setting preferences) that I get black on black so that I cannot see the text.  I know this is part of my theme, but I want to know how to change this while keeping my theme.  The text color are correct in all other places
[10:04] <wayneandleanne> try booting the live cd, to rule out a install problem
[10:05] <holyguyver_> I already did, & no, it doesn't work in the live CD either tragicly
[10:05] <casper__> i like it 2, but very use to my gnome, so want to give kde a try..what is the best approach?
[10:05] <shaffy> TeslaTony: i've installed only the kubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:05] <shaffy> droetker: do you know the steps you took to get it to work?
[10:06] <holyguyver_> Anyway I have tried using OSS too
[10:06] <TeslaTony> shaffy: OK. Are you using 7.10 or 8.04?
[10:06] <cahuez> casper, using right now kde..?
[10:06] <wayneandleanne> this has got me stumped, have you got a spare soundcard?
[10:06] <shaffy> TeslaTony: 8.04
[10:06] <holyguyver_> Well I showed you my hardware http://paste.ubuntu.com/9940/
[10:07] <cahuez> casper, did you come from gnome world..?
[10:07] <casper__> still in gnome world...just formatted into ubuntu heron
[10:07] <TeslaTony> shaffy: Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[10:08] <wayneandleanne> ye,  ive just re read your specs, can you beg / steal another soundcard  just to rule out that your Ensoniq card doesnt work underl linux
[10:08] <cahuez> cool casper, then..
[10:08] <holyguyver_> But if it didn't work under linux then wouldn't I not get sound either?
[10:09] <cahuez> when you start ubuntu, is there at login screen some options just to select another desktop environment..?
[10:09] <cahuez> you know, i do kubuntu as well..!
[10:09] <holyguyver_> Also as stated all of my hardwhere (except my DVD drive) is from 1998.
[10:10] <TeslaTony> shaffy: Once you've enabled the repositories, there's a package or two to install, which I'm trying to find
[10:10] <holyguyver_> Also I do not know anything about soddering on microchips so I wouldn't know how to change soundcards anyway
[10:11] <casper__> yes there is....i have tried the sudo apt instal kubuntu method, then choose kde as my defualt session, but there were soo many program, i got scared, tried unistall kde, but it left all the programs, so formatted, but i want to try it again
[10:11] <wayneandleanne> if your Ensoniq sound card is built into your motherboard if you were to insert a pci sound card your pc's bios would diasable the bult in
[10:12] <casper__> am i the only one scared of kde ?
[10:12] <wayneandleanne> do you have anyother pc's in the house?
[10:13] <holyguyver_> I don't know the first thing about PCI, but as I said if my sound works doesn't that mean that my 10 year old sound card works?
[10:13] <cahuez> let me check casper...
[10:13] <cahuez> your distro is kde enclosed, is kubuntu..?
[10:13] <holyguyver_> Yes I do have other PC's but all of their soundcards are built in to their motherbords too as it is a 1995 (one before this one)
[10:14] <wayneandleanne> maybe, maybe not. some hardware is known to be stubon, can you beg / borrow a sound card from a mate?
[10:14] <Choreboy> Can you install Kubuntu 8.04 with LILO from the liveCD?
[10:15] <Choreboy> I want to use XFS instead of EXT3 and it recommends LILO instead of GRUB
[10:15] <holyguyver_> Sure, here I go, mayeandleanne , do you have a soundcard, a pci one that I can barrow? also can you come to Arizona & install it for me?
[10:16] <wayneandleanne> instaling it is the easy bit, i will find a document that you can print to walk you through installing the soundcard if you can get one?
[10:16] <holyguyver_> well can you give me yours?
[10:17] <holyguyver_> Honostly I have no friends
[10:17] <holyguyver_> plus as said my sound card works
[10:17] <Choreboy> anyone? Lilo? yes?
[10:17] <holyguyver_> choreboy I have never gotten lilo to work
[10:18] <Choreboy> ugh bogus.
[10:18] <Choreboy> Well can I still use GRUB then? It says GRUB hangs when you install on XFS
[10:18] <wayneandleanne> not a chance!!, are you anywere near arizona state university?
[10:19] <Choreboy> moi?
[10:19] <MrBogus> hello
[10:19] <Choreboy> if by Arizona State University you mean Tampa, FL then yes.
[10:19] <MrBogus> i installed ubuntu but i only got in console mode
[10:19] <MrBogus> any help? thanks
[10:20] <wayneandleanne> holyguyver_: are you anywere near arizona state universitity?
[10:22] <holyguyver_> No, I am in Northern Arizona in the town of Chino Valley near the town of Prescott
[10:23] <holyguyver_> & I have no friends
[10:23] <holyguyver_> As said this computer is 10 years old though & if the sound out works then surely there must be some way to get the sound in to work too
[10:25] <wayneandleanne> google to see if any linux user groups are near you, see if you can take the pc to them to see if they can help ( i cant dig around in your configuration from the uk!
[10:25] <holyguyver_> understandable :p
[10:26] <holyguyver_> But what if I want to yahoo the query insted though?
[10:26] <holyguyver_> or how about if I want to do a web search engine search for it?
[10:26] <wayneandleanne> unless you want a large bill from ups !!!, sure use yahoo if you want
[10:26] <pascalFR> ping
[10:26] <wayneandleanne> it's your choice
[10:27] <holyguyver_> Anyway thanks :)
[10:28] <wayneandleanne> sorry i couldnet help resolve this one
[10:28] <wayneandleanne> type
[10:28] <holyguyver_> Hey we can't fix all of the worlds problems, & this is such a miner one :p
[10:29] <holyguyver_> Plus if I really want to record badly I can just restart my computer & boot into windows since I am dual-booting :p
[10:29] <wayneandleanne> true, but bloody anoying
[10:29] <holyguyver_> Yes I agree
[10:30] <holyguyver_> But my scanners, I own 3 of them & none of them suply linux drivers & the linux scanner driver project has been unable to crack them either, so when I need to scan something I need to boot into windows anyway :p
[10:30] <wayneandleanne> trust me i know how anoying it is having no mic, ever try'd having a voice chat in secondlife without a working mic !!!!!!!
[10:30] <holyguyver_> no, because I don't play video games :p
[10:31] <holyguyver_> I don't even play card games :p
[10:31] <holyguyver_> The closest thing I have to a game is GIMP :p
[10:31] <wayneandleanne> think about it!, no mic in a voice chat
[10:32] <holyguyver_> Yes I know
[10:32] <khajx> Hi..
[10:32] <wayneandleanne> so what do you do on your pc all day long then?
[10:32] <khajx> can anyone help with finding a good dock for kubuntu?
[10:33] <holyguyver_> I use OO.o write, & OO.o draw, & GIMP, & listen to music, & chat on message forums & Bulliton Boards & partisipate in a fe newsgroups & mailing lists.
[10:33] <ere4si> holyguyver_: have you tried typing alsamixer in a konsole and using the right arrrow to see all options?
[10:34] <holyguyver_> nope, trying that now
[10:34] <wayneandleanne> ere4si: never thought of that, durgh
[10:35] <holyguyver_> I already had all of those options in the xubuntu sound gui
[10:35] <cahuez> hello to all.."
[10:36] <cahuez> humm, i need some help just to install> http://sheltermanager.sourceforge.net/linux_deb.php ..!
[10:36] <cahuez> just give it a check, please..
[10:37] <ere4si> holyguyver_: I have a mic boost option in mine - your card might not support it tho
[10:37] <holyguyver_> As you can see wayneandleanne my computer use is like office use :p even though it is a home computer. I have just never been one for games.
[10:38] <holyguyver_> As I said I also have a mic boost option in mine & I tried it & it only made the static louder
[10:39] <wayneandleanne> hmmm, still thinking#
[10:39] <cahuez> apt-getting sinaptic...
[10:39] <shanky> good morning
[10:40] <shanky> I have just installed kubuntu-hardy-kde4
[10:40] <shanky> during installation or livecd, x works great
[10:41] <wayneandleanne> nope sorry i'm stumped
[10:41] <shanky> but after installation at hte first boot I can't start x
[10:41] <shanky> I get a "No screens found" error messages
[10:41] <shanky> is there any command line x setup tool?
[10:41] <ere4si> shanky: do you get a login?
[10:42] <ere4si> shanky: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:42] <holyguyver_> As said Wayne you really don't need to worry about it, I will just boot into winXP
[10:42] <wayneandleanne> ok
[10:43] <holyguyver_> I will however do a web search (I prefer yahoo) for getting my soundcards mic input to work ;)
[10:43] <wayneandleanne> kk
[10:43] <shanky> ere4si: I get the same error after dpkg-reconfigure
[10:43] <wayneandleanne> may  i sugest google.com/linux
[10:43] <holyguyver_> Sure :p
[10:44] <holyguyver_> I will try that :p
[10:45] <hluo> who
[10:45] <ere4si> shanky: can you do  nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and paste what is in the screen section?
[10:47] <the-erm> Anyone in here run php in cli on this channel?
[10:47] <the-erm> script.php& isn't working any more, and I'm wondering what changed.
[10:47] <the-erm> It basically just exits.
[10:47] <khajx> can anyone help with finding a good dock for kubuntu? and how to add shortcuts to the desktop (hh8.04+kde4)
[10:47] <ere4si> !dock
[10:48] <ere4si> !kiba-dock
[10:48] <malik_> how do i make kubuntu show my ntfs partitions coz i cant see em its giving errors when i try to click on it n also they are absent in /etc/fstab
[10:48] <ere4si> khajx: try kiba dock and right click the desktop to add shortcuts
[10:49] <holyguyver_> !unotu
[10:49] <holyguyver_> !ubotu
[10:50] <ere4si> shanky: when you did the dpkg xserver what did you select for the vid card driver?
[10:51] <khajx> ere4si: is kiba dock stable on kubuntu? and do i need something else to use it? its a fresh installed copy.. one more thing, i got add widgets when i right click the desktop, and i tried to add icons but i cant make it a shortcut...
[10:51] <malik_> !ntfs partitions
[10:51] <shanky> ere4si: nop
[10:51] <shanky> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9944/
[10:52] <ere4si> shanky: do the dpkg again and select  vesa  for the vid card driver
[10:53] <shanky> ere4si: but, it did not aske me the driver
[10:53] <shanky> it just asked me to use framebuffer or not, and keyboard settings
[10:55] <ere4si> shanky: forgot that hardy was a barstard like that - don't know how to get around that yet - sorry
[10:55] <faisal> hi all, i just installed kubuntu, i hvae downloaded some packages from cnr.com. Plese let me know how to install them?
[10:56] <shanky> what I can't understand it is why during installation, or using live-cd works fine
[10:57] <shanky> ere4si: using xorg.failsafe it looks to work
[10:58] <ere4si> khajx: shanky great
[10:58] <ere4si> khajx: nothing about a shortcut when you right click the desktop?
[10:58] <ere4si> oops
[10:58] <khajx> ere4si: lol, no
[10:59] <khajx> so less user-friendly then ubuntu..
[10:59] <ere4si> khajx: is it kde3 kubuntu or kde4?
[11:00] <khajx> kde4
[11:00] <ere4si> khajx: try in #kubuntu-kde4 - I don't use it
[11:00] <khajx> i downloaded the latest kde4 remix release..
[11:00] <khajx> ok
[11:00] <khajx> Thanks
[11:00] <khajx> ere4si ^
[11:00] <ere4si> np
[11:19] <khartahk> hi there
[11:20] <khartahk> can anyone here help me to change mime type icons in kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 remix version
[11:23] <ccoffey> Hi all.
[11:24] <khartahk> hi
[11:24] <ccoffey> I'm having an issue upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04. The kernel doesn;t want to install. here's the pastbin: http://pastebin.com/m1603ad65
[11:24] <ccoffey> just wondering if it's a common error
[11:26] <khartahk> sorry, I don't know
[11:26] <ccoffey> ok, no problem. thanks for looking
[11:32] <Pennycook> ccoffey: Have you tried following the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[11:33] <xt828> what's the command to force the package system to recheck itself again?
[11:34] <jim> Hey what program do i use to open .bin files ?
[11:34] <jim> i am trying to install realplayer for linux ! i have downloaded it from the site but i cant open it for some reason
[11:35] <ccoffey> jim: vlc should play them
[11:35] <jim> what a vlc >
[11:35] <jim> ?
[11:35] <ccoffey> Pennycook: Yup. but  i did a google now and found a thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=671796 , hopefully some luck there
[11:36] <ccoffey> jim: or mplayer. vlc is videolan.org, a fairly fantastic media player
[11:37] <jim> ah ok
[11:37] <ccoffey> jim: should be able to just sudo aptitude install vlc, if not let me know
[11:37] <jim> reason why i am chosing realplayer is becuase i am trying to listen to HHUK  Rave music from the website but it only wants windows media or realplayer ! that why
[11:38] <Dr_willis> I thought gmplayer, or vlc with the right plugins/browserplugins could play realplayer
[11:39] <Dr_willis> last i heard the official 'realplayer' linux binaries - where total.. well... doo doo. :)
[11:39] <ccoffey> Dr_willis: afiak not all the realaudio stuff but i could be wrong
[11:39] <Dr_willis> Your Mileage may vary. :)
[11:39] <jim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9950/
[11:39] <viperserv2> anyway u can un raid raid1?
[11:40] <Dr_willis> Realplayer REALLY dropped the ball.. they were the BIG name.. and now look at them. :)
[11:40] <ccoffey> Dr_willis: actually thinking a bit hardeer now i think i am wrong, remember having a lot of success with kaffeine a few months back
[11:40] <ccoffey> viperserv2: without data loss?
[11:40] <viperserv2> well aslong as the os is ok
[11:41] <ccoffey> viperserv2: is it linux software raid?
[11:41] <viperserv2> /dev/sdb1 * 1<PHONE_NUMBER>+ fd Linux raid autodetect
[11:41] <viperserv2> /dev/sdb2 393 91136 728901180 fd Linux raid autodetect
[11:41] <viperserv2> /dev/sda1 * 1<PHONE_NUMBER>+ fd Linux raid autodetect
[11:41] <viperserv2> /dev/sda2 393 91136 728901180 fd Linux raid autodetect
[11:42] <viperserv2> it might be hardware
[11:43] <ccoffey> viperserv2: I's day you possibly could. I've done it under solaris software raid, but that's no comparisson really. Is there much on google? I's day someone has tried. Can you expieriment?
[11:43] <viperserv2> well google teaches how to raid
[11:43] <ccoffey> ls -l /dev/mapper. anything in there?
[11:44] <viperserv2> total 0
[11:44] <viperserv2> crw-rw---- 1 root root 10, 63 2008-05-04 05:09 control
[11:45] <ccoffey> hmmm, do a lspci and see if there is any raid sounding devices there
[11:46] <ccoffey> jim: something else is using apt. is there any packmanagers open?
[11:47] <viperserv2> v 01)
[11:47] <viperserv2> 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) SATA IDE Co
[11:48] <viperserv2> i goes it's either bios or software
[11:49] <ccoffey> viperserv2: i think that's just a standard sata chipset. i could be wrong.
[11:49] <ccoffey> what's is / mounted from?
[11:50] <viperserv2> root
[11:51] <viperserv2> /dev/md1 3.0G 573M 2.3G 20% /
[11:51] <blekos> hello could u tell me the command to check if my nvidia is enabled?
[11:52] <ccoffey> blekos: as in the gpu?
[11:52] <malik_> what should i put in my fastab file so that i can access my ntfs partitions in kubuntu 8.04 kde4 so that i can acess em?
[11:52] <viperserv2> there a md2 that i unmounted
[11:52] <ccoffey> viperserv2: I think that is software raid. do a lsmod | grep -i mdadm
[11:53] <blekos> yes
[11:53] <mefisto__> can I mount a hard disk formatted in TinyUDF (from a digital TV recorder) with kubuntu? Has anyone here tried?
[11:53] <Dr_willis> I always remove the 'nologo' option that Ubuntu for some odd reason loves to put in the xorg.conf file. That way when i start X - i See the nice nvidia logo and Know the driver is working. :)
[11:53] <viperserv2> root@ns356979:/# lsmod | grep -i mdadm
[11:53] <viperserv2> Opening /proc/modules: No such file or directory
[11:53] <ccoffey> blekos: loomk at your .etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what driver it is using, it';; be nv or nvidia. the latter is the non free driver blob
[11:54] <viperserv2> hmm says that dir isn't there
[11:54] <Dr_willis> mefisto__,  totally depends on what file system it is.. Ive never heard of TinyUDF. - I thought UDF was a dvd rom filesystem - you could always try mounting it manually with the udf filesystem
[11:54] <malik_> Jucato: u there mate?
[11:55] <tomekg> hi all I have a problem with compiz fusion in Kubuntu 8.04
[11:55] <ccoffey> viperserv2: -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2008-05-04 11:54 /proc/modules
[11:55] <tomekg> anobydy wishes to help me?
[11:55] <Dr_willis> state the exact problem and lets see
[11:55] <tomekg> ok
[11:55] <xt828> i need to reconfigure my apt or dpkg
[11:56] <malik_> what should i put in my fastab file so that i can access my ntfs partitions in kubuntu 8.04 kde4 so that i can acess em? can any help me there?
[11:56] <ccoffey> malik_: do you want read write supprt?
[11:57] <Dr_willis>  /dev/hda5 /media/winstorage ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[11:57] <Dr_willis>             <------------- example entry from my servers fstab
[11:57] <viperserv2> now it's saying command not found
[11:57] <mefisto__> Dr_willis: tinyUDF is, as far as I can tell, based on UDF. < http://www.storagelabs.com/products/tinyudf/ > I don't have the disk yet, considering buying a DVR that uses this filesystem, hoping I can get to the files with kubuntu
[11:57] <Dr_willis> Or you can use the uuid or label.              LABEL="XPBoot" /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[11:57] <viperserv2> command-not-found: error: no such option: --r--r--r--
[11:57] <viperserv2> -bash: --r--r--r--: command not found
[11:58] <Dr_willis> mefisto__,  i would do some researching befor spending too much ##
[11:58] <Dr_willis> viperserv2,  that was not a command to run.
[11:58] <Dr_willis> it was the output from the ls command. :)
[11:58] <ccoffey> viperserv2: that's was just the ls -l of my /proc modules, not a command. i was getting worried for you there. do you have the file /proc/modules?
[11:58] <tomekg> I read many faqs and tutorials about compiz, and they didnt work until last - uninstalling all compiz and isntalling new one. Some effects works fine (i.e. windows animation) but Desktop Cube and many other doesn't work. Besides the ccsm doesn't show any picture off plugins... (nude ccsm).
[11:59] <viperserv2> theres no module dir there
[11:59] <ccoffey> viperserv2: it's a file in /proc, not a dir. you should be able to cat it
[12:00] <malik_> ccoffey: yes i have that installed or atleast it is showing me in adept that i have its just that fstab is missing all my ntfs partitions
[12:00] <Dr_willis> tomekg,  compiz and ccsm can be buggy. Its working very well under Feisty here.
[12:00] <malik_> ccoffey: i guess thats what happens when u install bleeding edge distro
[12:00] <viperserv2> nothing
[12:00] <viperserv2> there is a mdstat tho
[12:00] <ccoffey> malik_: you'll have to construct it by hand. it's not too hard.
[12:01] <ccoffey> malik_: use file -s on your /dev/sd?? to find the ntfs partitions, and then add them  to your fstab. don't forget to make the mount pint
[12:01] <malik_> ccoffey: i know its just i dont know how to set up read write permissions for all the users
[12:01] <ccoffey> s/pint/point
[12:02] <blekos> can i chanbe the hz of my screen from to 50 to 60? also i see that my nvidia driver is installed and in use. But in the monitor settings the driver is: standard and greyed out
[12:02] <ccoffey> blekos: is  it a tft?
[12:02] <tomekg> thanks Dr_wills. I rember it work well on 7.10. That's why I asked
[12:02] <blekos> it is a laptop
[12:02] <blekos> dell 1530
[12:03] <ccoffey> blekos: i don't think there a need for 60hz on a tft panel. it's not like a crt.
[12:03] <blekos> i c
[12:03] <tomekg> I have one more question - how can I change a resolution of text mode (terminal) in Ctrl+Alt+F1 screen
[12:03] <tomekg> I just want to see more text
[12:04] <llutz> blekos: set "DynamicTwinView" "false" and it will report  60 or 75Hz, its a bug in nvidia-drivers, don't worry
[12:04] <Dr_willis> tomekg,  enable the framebuffer support, and set a vga=MODE that you like in the menu.lst file
[12:04] <llutz> blekos: even if it reports 50Hz, it will use the correct freq
[12:04] <francesco> !it
[12:04] <kaminix> Hello, I'm trying to install proftpd. Anyone who can help me set it up?
[12:04] <blekos> aa ok
[12:04] <tomekg> menu.lst file - where can I found this?
[12:05] <mefisto__> Dr_willis: how do you enable framebuffer support?
[12:05] <viperserv2> hmm i know mdadm is what made this raid1 i think
[12:05] <viperserv2> should i just kill the partition and make new one?
[12:05] <ccoffey> tomekg: it's in /boot/grub
[12:06] <tomekg> thanks
[12:07] <Dr_willis> !framebuffer
[12:07] <ccoffey> viperserv2: if it's not critical, you could just change the mount points in your fstab to the single disks rather than the mirror. i.e. from /dev/md1 to /dev/sda1 anf see what happens. have a live disk nearby to rescue it though!