[00:00] <BecauseIcan> Good to see a lot in here cause ill probably need a lot of help. I :)
[00:01] <BecauseIcan> What's the first thing I should check if the Internet doesn't work in Xubuntu for Android? I Nexus 7 using wifi
[00:03] <BecauseIcan> Awww damn I scared one off already
[00:04] <BecauseIcan> Am I in the right place for help with the Android xfce app?
[00:13] <BecauseIcan> Well.... Now that's of spam
[00:14] <BecauseIcan> Is it possible to ignore. The join/leave from webchat?
[00:15] <kgb> BecauseIcan: /join/part probably, yeah; idk 'bout /ignore
[00:16] <kgb> but i could be totally wrong, also ;$
[00:16] <BecauseIcan> So is this the right place for help with Xubuntu on Android?
[00:16] <pleia2> BecauseIcan: installed via https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7 ?
[00:17] <aaron_212> ayuda por favor
[00:18] <pleia2> the actual "Ubuntu for Android" product is something for phones that uses the android operating system when on the phone, and uses Ubuntu when plugged into a dock, and it hasn't been released to the public yet
[00:19] <pleia2> if you installed via the instructions from the wiki page I showed you, maybe #ubuntu-tablet is best, but even the Ubuntu install is for developers to improve the Unity UI, there aren't currently plans from this team to make Xfce into any kind of tablet UT
[00:19] <pleia2> UI
[00:19] <pleia2> (the wiki also has lots of troubleshooting, support tips and known issues)
[00:23] <BecauseIcan> The app is called Ubuntu noroot if that helps. It launches several things but no network access.
[00:24] <BecauseIcan> What you described sounds like it's for Atrix
[00:25] <pleia2> BecauseIcan: never heard of it :\
[00:25] <otura> is there a way to edit individual theme colours like in KDE?
[00:25] <BecauseIcan> I'm running Xubuntu on a stock Nexus 7 with it
[00:26] <BecauseIcan> GIMP and several apps load fairly quickly too
[00:27] <pleia2> BecauseIcan: maybe the developer of that has some kind of support forums? it really has nothing to do with us
[00:28] <pleia2> we could probably answer generic xfce usage questions :) but not how that app works or how to get networking support on your device
[00:36] <Becauseican> It doesn't help that I get the vaguest error possible (i/o)
[01:00] <Becauseican> What was that channel you recommended? I tried #xubuntu-tablet but it's empty
[01:03] <pleia2> Becauseican: it's quite late on a friday, might also want to try askubuntu.com or ubuntuforums.org - and make sure you say you're using that android app in your question (otherwise it'll be very confusing!)
[01:03] <pleia2> won't get an instant answer on those, but people will be around eventually
[01:03] <Becauseican> It was probably ubuntu-tablet but with 4 people in there I may as well uninstall this junk right now
[01:04] <pleia2> as far as I know that application you're using is a 3rd party developed thing outside of Ubuntu, does that developer have any kind of support outlet?
[02:32] <led> hello xubuntu show a folder when init session
[02:34] <led> why?
[02:57] <Shirakawasuna> led: what do you mean by 'show a folder'? Do you want xubuntu to open up e.g. thunar at /home/youruser/Music when you first start up?
[03:01] <led> By logging shows me a folder, I want unconfigure this
[03:01] <led> sorry for my english
[03:04] <led> saved this configuration by mistake
[03:20] <zukeprime> go to settings --> session and startup
[03:23] <zukeprime> you can delete saved sessions under the 'sessions' tab, or look at your startup list for thunar.
[03:55] <greenwolf> .join #freepbx
[03:57] <well_laid_lawn> greenwolf:  try /join #freepbx
[03:58] <greenwolf> lol messed up
[03:58] <greenwolf> thanks tho
[03:58] <greenwolf> got it
[03:58] <greenwolf> :)
[03:58] <well_laid_lawn> heh cheers
[03:58] <greenwolf> i tend to do that alot
[04:24] <esmth> hai
[04:24] <esmth> brb
[05:20] <timaaa> Ive got a major problem. Wont even boot. After i open grub it gives me bad target number, flashes to boot screen and freezes.
[05:22] <holstein> timaaa: i would try a live CD.. while that is booting, test the memory, and then test the hard drive
[05:23] <holstein> i would try fsck on the drive
[05:23] <holstein> i would want to make sure my data is backed up
[05:24] <Unit193> Any hardware changes?
[05:24] <timaaa> it was due to an update i installed i think
[05:25] <timaaa> Im running the BIOS RAM test
[05:27] <timaaa> I ran an old version of linux and got 'could not write: broken pipe'
[05:29] <timaaa> Also just checked windows, its fine
[05:32] <timaaa> Holstien: I booted from a flash drive and now dont know where it is.
[05:33] <timaaa> Never mind found it
[05:35] <holstein> timaaa: you can type "hol" and hit the tab key to auto complete my nick
[05:35] <timaaa> Im on a phone...
[05:36] <holstein> timaaa: with a tab key?
[05:36] <holstein> i use the irrsi connectbot
[05:36] <timaaa> Nope
[05:38] <timaaa> So just booting from usb now
[05:39] <timaaa> Holstein how do i check memory & test hard drive
[05:42] <icloud> Hi does anyone know how to make the minimize,maximize,close button bigger on the title bar? Thanks
[05:42] <holstein> timaaa: i use live CD's.. i use memtest.. or tools from the ulitmate boot cd
[05:43] <icloud> desktop is xfce 4.10
[05:45] <holstein> icloud: i would just choose a theme that makes them bigger
[05:48] <icloud> holstein, where do you set theme?
[05:51] <dydzEz2_>  whats the next big version of xubuntu going to be
[05:51] <dydzEz2_> where to the point of having 12.04 and 12.10 differs in upgrading
[05:51] <dydzEz2_> and how is the upgrading different
[05:54] <icloud> dydzEz2_, 12.04 has long term support
[05:55] <dydzEz2_> meaning i can stay with 12.04 if i dont want to upgrade to 13.x?
[05:55] <dydzEz2_> for a lot longer than 12.10?
[05:55] <dydzEz2_> if im the type of guy who doesnt care and will just always update to the next big update, i might as well go with 12.10?
[05:55] <holstein> dydzEz2_: you never 'have' to upgrade
[05:55] <holstein> dydzEz2_: you can choose to use what you want for as long as you like
[05:56] <holstein> 12.04 will be supported for 5 years
[05:56] <dydzEz2_> well as in terms for support
[05:56] <holstein> 12.10 will be supported for 18 months
[05:56] <holstein> they will both continue to work after the support period ends, and you can choose to provide the support
[05:57] <dydzEz2_> alright, if i have 12.10 and 13.xx comes out, i'll still be able to update to it with a few terminal commands right?
[05:57] <holstein> dydzEz2_: i would have my data backed up, and try the live versions from cd/usb first
[05:57] <holstein> dydzEz2_: i rarely do upgrades like that
[05:57] <dydzEz2_>  yeah i tried 12.10 live and everything works out of the box
[05:57] <dydzEz2_> yet to try 12.04
[05:57] <holstein> icloud: http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.com/2012/06/how-to-change-desktop-theme-in-xubuntu.html
[05:58] <dydzEz2_> ok
[05:58] <dydzEz2_> i see what youre saying
[05:58] <dydzEz2_> ill still be able to upgrade to 13.xx with the terminal commands either version i pick, but who knows what 13xx can be like (and can mess up my setup possibily)
[05:59] <icloud> holstein, thanks, i was playing with that but they are all the same size.
[05:59] <dydzEz2_> with 12.04 ill be able to approve the OS and stick with it no matter the newer versions for a while
[05:59] <icloud> holstein, i found this link, you have to use gimp to strech the .xmp icon files, otherwise i am happy
[06:00] <icloud> with xfce, cleaner then unity
[06:00] <icloud> http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/55392-making-titlebars-and-window-decorations-bigger/
[06:00] <dydzEz2_> ive been wondering, since unity has come out for ubuntu, have xubuntu dl's risen a lot?
[06:05] <icloud> dydzEz2_, i am not sure, i was on unity but just decided to switch to xfce, i don't need any of the fluffs
[06:12] <holstein> xubuntu *is* ubuntu
[06:13] <timaaa> Im justt going to reisnstall, nothing of value on there
[06:13] <holstein> timaaa: i would test the hard drive first.. so you dont waste time on dying hardware
[06:14] <timaaa> Its not a hard drive problem for sure.
[06:14] <timaaa> I can safley run windows 7
[06:16] <holstein> timaaa: if you didnt test, you dont know for sure
[06:16] <holstein> timaaa: that part of the hard drive could be failing first.. but do what you like
[07:59] <MoL0ToV> if i set 2 ip on a network interface on the panel only one is present  and functional, then i must use ifconfig. why?
[08:35] <xubuntu058> hello Im wondering how to set the screen brightness with setpci
[08:37] <xyzone> timmm, you could use dispcalgui
[08:38] <timmm> how? xyzone
[08:39] <xyzone> timmm, if you have some screen calibration issue that can correct the brightness, there is a ppa to install it somewhere
[08:40] <timmm> its that my on boards graphics isn't supported.
[08:42] <xyzone> it doesn't work?
[08:44] <timmm> i had to reinstall xubunutu and i used a setpci command to set my screen brightness
[12:24] <ajon> hi
[12:24] <ajon> is there away to add menu entries specific to one user?
[12:25] <ajon> the only suggestion i found was to add .desktop files in /usr/share/applications, but that seems odd for something only I have
[12:26] <sajan> ajon: If you login and use the menu editor to add something, I'm pretty sure it gets added only for that logged in user.
[12:29] <Unit193> ajon: Menu editor will do it, but you can copy a desktop file to .local/share/applications/ and edit.
[12:30] <ajon> ah ok, thanks
[12:31] <Unit193> Menu editor will edit them from there.
[12:31] <ajon> just tried the menu editor and since it didnt ask for permissiosn i figured it wont be editing /usr/share, works like a charm
[12:31] <ajon> thanks
[14:50] <lopez> I am running ubuntu 12.10 from usb
[14:50] <lopez> it wont't allow me to mount 2 harddrives on the laptop
[14:51] <lopez> I tought that that would not be dependendent on desktop
[16:02] <esph> lopez: It shouldn't
[16:02] <esph> how are you mounting them?
[16:02] <lopez> going to go-->computer
[16:03] <lopez> 2 500 GB drives
[16:06] <lopez> but then it doesn't mount them
[16:08] <lopez> why is that
[16:09] <lopez> in windows the harddrives work
[16:12] <holstein> lopez: you cant compare to windows
[16:12] <holstein> lopez: i assure you , it could be quite reversed if i were trying to mount drives in windows
[16:12] <holstein> lopez: what error message are you getting when you click on the drives?
[16:12] <lopez> second gotta boot up the thing
[16:14] <holstein> try and remember how long you used windows before you mounted any hard drives, and maybe just give your self a bit to get used to the software
[16:14] <holstein> !mount
[16:14] <holstein> you can also use the command line method
[16:27] <lopez> Adding rad ACL fgor uid 999
[16:28] <lopez> Opperation not supported
[16:28] <lopez> Adding rad ACL for uid 999
[16:29] <lopez> Adding read ACL for uid 999
[17:03] <dydzEz2_> how do i check which version of xubuntu im using
[17:03] <dydzEz2_> in my live cd
[17:23] <Unit193> dydzEz2_: lsb_release -a
[17:24] <dydzEz2_> is there a way for me to hide desktop icons
[17:25] <dydzEz2_> i have so many partitions
[17:25] <dydzEz2_> just showing up on my desktop
[17:29] <Unit193> Yep, settings manager > Desktop > Icons.  Or right click desktop.
[17:37] <dydzEz2_> oh wow
[17:37] <dydzEz2_> i like 12.04's boot screen better lol
[17:37] <dydzEz2_> or background rather
[17:37] <dydzEz2_> default
[17:50] <sp00ky> I'm trying to install evolution on 12.04 and receiving the following error:  http://pastebin.com/TMVaDvgu
[18:00] <kgb> sp00ky: have you tried the regular, sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean?.. not that it will help. :)
[18:01] <sp00ky> kgb, I actually have tried running both of those apt-get options
[18:01] <kgb> hm
[18:01] <sp00ky> I'll give it another try real quick
[18:01] <kgb> apparently sudo apt-get clean might do it
[18:02] <kgb> (will get rid of it all)
[18:02] <sp00ky> same issue, even with clean
[18:02] <kgb> synaptic also has edit -> fix borken packages btw
[18:02] <kgb> *broken
[18:03] <sp00ky> oh nice, I haven't opened Synaptic in ages
[18:03] <kgb> hm http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/how-to-fix-broken-package-904637/#post4525393
[18:03] <sp00ky> I'll give that a try now
[18:04] <sp00ky> damn, still the same thing even after Synaptic
[18:05] <kgb> :( could be like the version is mismatched (from some repo), if it can't be fixed
[18:05] <sp00ky> reading that post now
[18:05] <sp00ky> that's what I'm thinking is happening, but how can I figure out which file is mismatched?
[18:05] <kgb> like maybe you forced the install of something else, that's using the *wrong* version libs in the past, but i'm just guessing
[18:07] <sp00ky> I don't recall forcing any installations, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
[18:07] <kgb> also maybe if you upgraded, check sources and sources.d if all the ppas say 'precise' but again idk how relevant this is to your issue
[18:09] <sp00ky> ahh, interesting error when I try to install evolution with aptitude:  http://pastebin.com/ireBjvck
[18:10] <sp00ky> where is sources.d?  /etc/apt/?
[18:10] <kgb> sp00ky: maybe.. sudo apt-get install whatever_is_giving_you_grief --reinstall (after sudo apt-get update and after checking your sources are for 'Precise')
[18:11] <kgb> yes sources.list.d in /etc/apt
[18:12] <sp00ky> how do I find out which package is actually causing the issue?
[18:13] <kgb> i use add-apt-repository .. to have the PPAs go to that separate dir (instead of just the main sources file)
[18:13] <kgb> not sure, could be the: gnome-icon-theme-full : Depends: gnome-icon-theme (= 3.4.0-0ubuntu1) but 3.4.0-0ubuntu1.1 is installed.
[18:16] <kgb> hm, some forum post says 'I suggested you to change your server. Try any server from Europe and then issue --'
[18:16] <kgb> it could be that the server you're getting it from has something borked and your system is fine
[18:17] <sp00ky> I saw that post
[18:17] <kgb> :)
[18:18] <sp00ky> I did some research before resorting to bugging people on IRC :)
[18:18] <kgb> sp00ky: so you're like on the main US mirror and nothing?..
[18:20] <kgb> http://postimage.org/image/pqjklil8n/
[18:22] <sp00ky> yep, server for United States
[18:22] <kgb> blah, ok :\
[18:22] <sp00ky> I'm considering using aptitude to install and do the dependency resolution
[18:23] <sp00ky> since it doesn't die like apt does when I attempt to install
[18:23] <sp00ky> I don't want to bork anything else up though
[18:23] <kgb> right, right
[18:24] <sp00ky> ugh, some things I love and some things I hate about linux :)
[18:25] <sp00ky> when I was using LMDE I think I really messed up some packages by switching between apt and aptitude
[18:27] <dstaubsauger> hi, i've got an old ps/2 mouse with two buttons, is there any way to configure xubuntu so it will recognize [left click]+[right click] as [middle click]?
[19:10] <GridCube> i'm having a problem, it seems like qt apps are using some greek font instead of the ubuntu font, i've tried using the qtconfig app to modify this, and the standard settings menu to change the global fonts
[19:11] <GridCube> the locale is properly set to spanish though, its the fonts that are wrong
[19:11] <GridCube> smplayer and libreoffice are experimenting this
[19:17] <dstaubsauger> GridCube: screenshot?
[19:18] <xubuntu312> hello I am installing voyager 12.10 linux with double boot and the update-grub fails can anyone help me?
[19:19] <GridCube> dstaubsauger, http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadepantalla-020213-160017.php
[19:20] <GridCube> !details | xubuntu312
[19:20] <GridCube> xubuntu312, particularly if you have an efi machine
[19:20] <xubuntu312> no I haven't
[19:20] <xubuntu312> my computer was bought 4 years ago
[19:21] <GridCube> well, how it fails then
[19:22] <dstaubsauger> GridCube:  is libreoffice-l10n-es installed?
[19:23] <GridCube> yes "libreoffice-l10n-es ya está en su versión más reciente."
[19:23] <GridCube> as said already, locales are fine, but the interface is using a greek font
[19:24] <xubuntu312> I am talking to you with the live xubuntu and installing it in the same time and at the update-grub execution the update-grub isn't progressing. I made a / with 8Gb ; a /usr with 12Gb and /home with 200Gb...
[19:24] <xubuntu312> I would like to install it in double boot with windows 8
[19:25] <GridCube> xubuntu312, install boot-repair
[19:25] <GridCube> !boot-repair
[19:25] <GridCube> !bootrepair
[19:25] <GridCube> !info boot-repair
[19:25] <GridCube> what
[19:26] <torax> it has ppa
[19:26] <GridCube> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:26] <GridCube> good earth
[19:27] <xubuntu312> ok I am going to try this solution I find it is starnge because with debian squeeze there is no problem...boot repair I thank you GridCube
[19:27] <xubuntu312> strange
[19:27] <dstaubsauger> lolwtf your libreoffice is in spanish written with greek letters?
[19:28] <GridCube> yes
[19:28] <GridCube> same with smplayer
[19:29] <GridCube> let me check something though
[19:40] <GridCube> no luck
[19:45] <GridCube> no, i dont understand
[19:47] <dstaubsauger> different question: I'm using an ati rage graphics card (llvmpipe driver) and i got glitches where images i had open in firefox appear (stretched and resized) in empty areas of the xfce4-panel. wtf?
[19:53] <GridCube> well well well
[19:54] <GridCube> for some reason the global configuration was setted to symbols, but i had changed it already... or maybe i didnt
[19:54] <GridCube> DUUUN DUUUN DUUUN
[19:58] <dstaubsauger> congratulations ^^
[19:59] <GridCube> yeah
[19:59] <GridCube> silly me
[19:59] <dstaubsauger> so the question that's left for now is which idiot classified greek characters as "symbols" :P
[20:00] <GridCube> well... they are used in maths a lot
[20:09] <LgB> Hello! Would anyone happen to know how to change the font (and font size) of the workspace switcher in the xfce panel? I've found a file in ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-panel.xml but I'm not sure if that would be the correct location to specify fonts
[20:10] <LgB> Any help would be greatly appreciated! :]
[22:41] <entreri> hey there, I don't know why but Chromium doesn't save my configurations, when I "check" an option and then come back in the options menu, the case is not checked anymore
[22:44] <David-A> entreri: always like this, or did it used to save it before? what particular option?
[22:44] <Unit193> Are the permissions right on .config/chromium ?
[22:45] <entreri> since I installed Chromium. "Open the New Tab Page" option for instance, the case is always unchecked when I refresh even if I checked it
[22:46] <Unit193> Is there an "Apply" button or "Save"?
[22:46] <entreri> Unit193: can you tell me the command to run on .config/chromium to know the permissions ?
[22:46] <Unit193> ls -lh .config | grep chromium
[22:46] <entreri> Unit193: not in Chromium, it is usually applicable immediatly
[22:47] <Unit193> Alright, I don't know chromium as I don't use it.
[22:47] <entreri> drwx------ 3 entreri entreri 4.0K Feb  2 17:45 chromium
[22:52] <Unit193> I see what you mean.
[22:53] <Unit193> Tried changing the search site, seems to work.
[22:55] <Unit193> entreri: It does take, just doesn't appear to.  Maybe a theme issue?
[22:55] <Unit193> entreri: What theme are you using?
[22:55] <entreri> Unit193: you experience the same ? I'm using GTK
[22:55] <entreri> theme
[22:56] <Unit193> Yes, but Albatross, Greybird, Blackbird, etc.
[22:56] <Unit193> entreri: I checked open a page, selected wunderground.com and restarted the browser, it took but doesn't look like it in the settings.
[22:56] <Unit193> ochosi: ^?
[22:56] <entreri> you mean what Chromium theme ? GTK default theme that came with xubuntu
[22:57] <Unit193> So Greybird, I have it in Albatross.
[22:57] <ochosi> we currently only have a few styles for chromium that we ship in greybird
[22:57] <ochosi> all other themes don't have that
[22:57] <ochosi> (basically recoloring the scrollbar and the private mode etc.)
[22:58] <ochosi> so nothing fancy that'd really be able to break anything (on our end)
[22:58] <Unit193> Alrighty.
[22:59]  * ochosi tests
[23:00]  * Unit193 just did.
[23:00] <ochosi> yeah true, the radio-button doesn't remain marked
[23:00] <ochosi> but chromium doesn't really use gtk to render these widgets
[23:00] <ochosi> so submit a bug to chromium
[23:01] <Unit193> entreri: ^
[23:01] <Unit193> Thank you, ochosi.
[23:01] <ochosi> np
[23:02] <entreri> thanks guys, there is also other problems, like when there is one tab, the tab disappear (even if pinned)
[23:03] <entreri> and the "Translate Webpages that I cannot Read" option cannot be disable
[23:04] <ochosi> entreri: you mean the tab doesn't get re-opened on restart even though you checked "open a specific set of pages" or "continue where i left off"?
[23:05] <Cheri703> I'm jumping back in here, but entreri, are you talking about chromium?
[23:05] <Cheri703> I had that issue when I first installed. basically the tab is disappearing behind the top bar where the close/maximize/minimize buttons are, yes?
[23:05] <entreri> ochosi: not that, I mean when I close all tabs to only one
[23:06] <Cheri703> I just installed chrome instead and it's fine
[23:06] <ochosi> entreri: that's a design decision that the tab-bar goes away/hides when you only have one tab
[23:07] <ochosi> entreri: it shows again when you open a second tab
[23:07] <Cheri703> ochosi: it's that it shifts up behind the window bar or something. if you look at the head of the profile selector guy (if one is showing?) then you'll see that it's cut off at like the chin or so
[23:07] <Cheri703> it's an actual issue, not just a setting. I had it too
[23:07] <ochosi> a-ha
[23:07] <Cheri703> so I installed chrome instead of chromium and it's fine
[23:08]  * ochosi isn't using chromium on a daily basis, so...
[23:08] <Unit193> Alt+click and drag if you'd like to move it, but I as well don't use it and already fully purged it. :P
[23:08] <entreri> yeah I have seens a bug report on this and I'm looking for it right now
[23:09] <Cheri703> Unit193: it's not about moving it
[23:09] <Cheri703> it's the top bar of the window, that has the title and the close/max/min buttons
[23:09] <Cheri703> not like the top of the screen or the panel
[23:10] <Unit193> Hrm, alright..
[23:19] <Cheri703> I took screenshots :)
[23:19] <Cheri703> here's chrome on the left and chromium on the right, both have 2 tabs open: http://ubuntuone.com/404HI5YnAbrIZ6nNojuvOr
[23:19] <Cheri703> this is both with one tab open: http://ubuntuone.com/5tCI5dHudi72b5oHfFTRKg
[23:19] <Cheri703> if you notice, on chromium, you can juuuust see the bottom of the profile guy's neck
[23:19] <Cheri703> it scoots itself up, so the new tab button and such are hidden behind the top bar.
[23:20] <Cheri703> there's no setting like in firefox where you can choose to hide the tab bar if only one is open.
[23:20] <Cheri703> I hunted a bunch when I first encountered it. then gave up :)
[23:21] <Unit193> Oh wow, I figured the tab bar wasn't supposed to show up when only one was there, interesting.  I like how the first image starts out 404... ;)
[23:21] <Cheri703> does it?
[23:21] <Cheri703> oh, the url
[23:22] <entreri> yeah, I would not mind such a feature but it would not supposed to hide a pinned tab
[23:23] <entreri> it should not hide a pinned tab* (sorry for my bad english)
[23:23] <Cheri703> yeah entreri, I have had zero issues with chrome, but I just re-installed chromium for that screenshot and obviously it's still doing it :/
[23:24] <Unit193> I'd guess same version...
[23:24] <Unit193> Well, can always hope 24 in raring has it finally fixed, but otherwise...
[23:24] <Cheri703> yeah, I'd initially thought it might be a conflict with something else on my system, but if entreri is having it too, just some bug