[03:11] <persia> aftertaf: there's some documentation available in /usr/share/doc if you install the linux-tree pacakge.  More than this, you'd want to ask google or someone on the kernel team.
[03:11] <Digis> hi, i have a problem with ubuntu hoary, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1719
[03:12] <brenner> Concord_Dawn: eh? what does?
[03:12] <Concord_Dawn> Can anyone here help me with oidentd?
[03:12] <Concord_Dawn> brenner, XChat
[03:12] <Concord_Dawn> when you hit tab to autocomplete a name...
[03:12] <Concord_Dawn> holy
[03:12] <aftertaf> thx persia ... just understanding what i should install to update my kernel
[03:12] <Concord_Dawn> need I say, netsplit?
[03:12] <aftertaf> hehe Concord_Dawn
[03:12] <aftertaf> totally
[03:12] <Concord_Dawn> tbh, users should have access to /map
[03:13] <Concord_Dawn> O_O
[03:13] <Concord_Dawn> there we go.
[03:13] <Concord_Dawn> yay, relink
[03:13] <aftertaf> * This command is for network staff only
[03:14] <aftertaf> what is map?
[03:14] <clem_yeats> and here come the rescue ! :))
[03:14] <aftertaf> woohoo....
[03:14] <aftertaf> net resticking
[03:14] <Concord_Dawn> aftertaf, it's a command that shows how the network is laid out, what servers are connected to where.
[03:14] <Concord_Dawn> =\
[03:14] <aftertaf> ooooooops
[03:14] <aftertaf> k
[03:14] <Concord_Dawn> someone kill irc.freenode.net
[03:14] <sdefresne> ignore
[03:14] <aftertaf> tks
[03:14] <sdefresne> oups, sorry
[03:14] <aftertaf> de rien ;)
[03:15] <Concord_Dawn> STOP NETSPLITING!
[03:15] <pirast> jupp..
[03:15] <pirast> its ugly
[03:15] <Concord_Dawn> omg
[03:15] <Concord_Dawn> netsplit+++
[03:15] <pirast> do i netsplit too?
[03:15] <Concord_Dawn> yes.
[03:16] <pirast> hmpf :>
[03:16] <Concord_Dawn> lol
[03:16] <Concord_Dawn> we're on different servers
[03:16] <theD3viL> When will breezy come out ?
[03:16] <Concord_Dawn> but the servers are linked together.
[03:16] <Concord_Dawn> .
[03:16] <Concord_Dawn> you think irc.freenode.net is getting attacked? :-P
[03:19] <theD3viL> persia, nono... what will be newer in breezy ;)
[03:19] <Concord_Dawn> omg.
[03:19] <Concord_Dawn> there it goes again.
[03:19] <Concord_Dawn> although, I think our server is getting delinked from the hub.
[03:21] <apokryphos> 13 nicks!
[03:21] <Concord_Dawn> O_O
[03:21] <theD3viL> pirast, when i will dist-upgrade will my documentes, settings will change?
[03:21] <Concord_Dawn> HOLY f*.
[03:21] <brenner> pirast: sounds weird ... "you running perky?" :D lol
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[03:21] <persia> pirast: Is Perky Penguin final?  I thought I heard about that during Warty Warthog days...
[03:21] <mrdeath> why xserver-xorg depends on all xserver-xorg-driver- packages?
[03:22] <mrdeath> i want to purge some unneded
[03:22] <mrdeath> freenode is mad today :)
[03:22] <Concord_Dawn> lol
[03:22] <Concord_Dawn> indeed
[03:22] <pirast> theD3viL: Documents settings etc. will be keeped, yes.
[03:22] <persia> mrdeath: the X server has been broken out into many packages.  The drivers provide the services that used to be in the monolithic package.
[03:22] <theD3viL> pirast, so dist-upgrade is like upgrade ... ?
[03:22] <apokryphos> persia: the name for 6.04 isn't final, but there are a few names floating about
[03:23] <persia> apokryphos: That's what I thought.  Thanks.
[03:23] <mrdeath> persia: but why they need to be installed all?
[03:23] <pirast> hmpf
[03:23] <persia> mrdeath: They allow X to use your mouse, keyboard, and graphics hardware.  Without the drivers, X is not very interactive.
[03:23] <pirast> the German wikipedia says "Perky Penguin"
[03:23] <pirast> -.-
[03:23] <mrdeath> i think that it will be a good idea to make a meta package like 'xorg-core' which depends on all this packages
[03:24] <pirast> theD3viL: Jupp
[03:24] <mrdeath> persia: for example my i855 chipset can works wine without ati and nvidia drivers
[03:24] <mrdeath> persia: so why i need to keep them?
[03:24] <mrdeath> :)
[03:24] <apokryphos> pirast: even if it did, I wouldn't say it was final. It was even mentioned on ubuntu.com that "Grumpy Groundhog" was gonna be 5.10, but it ended up being Breezy Badger
[03:24] <NoHope> hello all
[03:24] <mrdeath> s/works wine/works fine/
[03:25] <pirast> apokryphos: I'll make a discussion so it will be corrected, thanks..
[03:25] <persia> mrdeath: I believe the current dependencies are set up to make upgrades easier.  I suspect you will be able to remove them with the next release (after breezy).  You can remove them now if you want, but you will need to become famliar with the control files, and it's probably not worth it (they don't take too much space).
[03:27] <mrdeath> persia: yes, i know. but i just don't like to keep unnesesarry packages :)
[03:27] <__filip_> can someone try to connect to my ftpserver?
[03:28] <mrdeath> __filip_: i can
[03:28] <mrdeath> s180h105hbby2.dyn.tyfon.se?
[03:28] <Concord_Dawn> can someone help me with configuring oidentd/
[03:28] <Concord_Dawn> ?
[03:29] <persia> If you are willing to manage the low level packages, you may be able to remove (or modify) xserver-xorg.  You may also need to remove or modify x-window-system-core.  If you do this, the automatic package removal system will not work as well.
[03:31] <NoHope> ubotu tell me about repos
[03:31] <Rockett18> !repositories
[03:31] <ubotu> it has been said that repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:31] <pirast> lol
[03:31] <pirast> I love this bot
[03:33] <aftertaf> he must have a lot of undocumented featrues!
[03:34] <brenner> !1+1
[03:34] <ubotu> 2
[03:34] <Concord_Dawn> !4+3
[03:34] <ubotu> 7
[03:34] <Concord_Dawn> w0000
[03:34] <Concord_Dawn> !4*4
[03:34] <ubotu> 16
[03:34] <Concord_Dawn> :)
[03:34] <Concord_Dawn> wonder if it does brackets
[03:34] <Concord_Dawn> !(4+4)*2
[03:34] <ubotu> 16
[03:34] <Concord_Dawn> nice
[03:34] <brenner> anyway, we should use /msg ubotu if we want to play with it
[03:35] <Concord_Dawn> !4+4*2
[03:35] <ubotu> 12
[03:35] <Concord_Dawn> :(
[03:35] <robodex> hmm. interesting. By default, the openoffice dictionary thinks "Debian" is a word but not "Ubuntu" :(
[03:35] <brenner> the ops get angry :)
[03:35] <brenner> Concord_Dawn: why the sad face? that's correct :)
[03:35] <persia> robodex: Please submit a bug.  That should be fixed.
[03:35] <Concord_Dawn> it does BEDMAS
[03:36] <Concord_Dawn> I was expecting it not to
[03:36] <robodex> lol
[03:36] <brenner> hehe
[03:36] <Concord_Dawn> it's better at math then I am.
[03:36] <aftertaf> :)
[03:36] <robodex> should I really, or are you just pulling my leg
[03:36] <aftertaf> !pi
[03:36] <ubotu> Not a clue, aftertaf
[03:36] <aftertaf> ahhhh ha!
[03:36] <Concord_Dawn> !3.14
[03:36] <apokryphos> robodex: as does dictionary.com
[03:36] <ubotu> Concord_Dawn: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[03:36] <Concord_Dawn> lol
[03:36] <aftertaf> :)
[03:36] <Concord_Dawn> !4^4
[03:36] <ubotu> Concord_Dawn: I give up, what is it?
[03:36] <Concord_Dawn> O_O
[03:36] <apokryphos> Concord_Dawn: please don't play with the bot in here; best in /msg
[03:36] <brenner> it would be in the african dictionary though
[03:36] <Micksa> !4**4
[03:36] <ubotu> 256
[03:36] <Concord_Dawn> it doesn't do exponents?
[03:36] <Concord_Dawn> ohs.
[03:37] <Concord_Dawn> ;)
[03:37] <robodex> it's just that I'd think the ubuntu "version" of ooo would have the name of the OS in the dictionary
[03:37] <Micksa> teehee
[03:37] <Micksa> I mean
[03:37] <Micksa> ow.
[03:38] <tylere> Has anyone gotten the Adobe Reader 7 to work on AMD64? It sigaborts on me
[03:38] <apokryphos> robodex: ubuntu doesn't have a different dictionary for the conventional dictionary
[03:38] <Concord_Dawn> it should :)
[03:38] <tylere> Concord_Dawn: ?
[03:38] <Concord_Dawn> was talking to apokryphos
[03:39] <Concord_Dawn> although it should work tylere, unless you need a kernel patch of somekind?
[03:39] <robodex> fair enough. it's not difficult to add "Ubuntu" to the dictionary, I just thought it was an interesting tidbit
[03:39] <adjacent> yeh, lets further fragment linux so that no two distros even load the same english dictionaries anymore...
[03:40] <robodex> why not? :p
[03:41] <aftertaf> loool Concord_Dawn
[03:41] <aftertaf> it should sigfault :) mrff!
[03:41] <xophEr> is kernel 2.6.13 going to be released for breezy?
[03:41] <Concord_Dawn> indeed
[03:41] <Concord_Dawn> tbh, what about just having an extra dictionary with all the Ubuntu words in it.
[03:41] <Concord_Dawn> so it loads two dictionaries.
[03:41] <Concord_Dawn> Can anyone help me with oidentd?
[03:41] <robodex> maybe petition the ooo people to add "ubuntu" to the default dictionary :P
[03:42] <Concord_Dawn> indeed
[03:42] <Concord_Dawn> lol
[03:42] <Concord_Dawn> you should check if Ubuntu is in the african dictionary (if there is one)
[03:42] <adjacent> i like robodex' idea best. otherwise you mail a doc to someone not running ubuntu and they see a bunch of spelling errors...
[03:43] <robodex> it probably is, but afaik whatever dialect the word "Ubuntu" is from doesn't use roman letters...
[03:43] <benkong2> ping
[03:44] <cemc> pong
[03:44] <Pickle_Weasel> i need a firefox java client =\
[03:44] <robodex> dude! I want to use OOO in zulu
[03:44] <benkong2> ack
[03:44] <aftertaf> gone OO2beta
[03:44] <Concord_Dawn> ubotu: tell Pickle_Weasel about java
[03:44] <robodex> Pickle_Weasel, www.ubuntuguide.org - should get you started in the right direction (has instructions for firefox java)
[03:44] <persia> !ubuntuguide
[03:44] <Pickle_Weasel> ty ^.^
[03:44] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[03:45] <apokryphos> robodex: no, that'll get them start in exactly the wrong direction
[03:45] <robodex> :(
[03:45] <apokryphos> s/start/started
[03:45] <persia> !java
[03:45] <ubotu> I guess java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[03:45] <brenner> robodex: you mean, has commands. :)
[03:45] <robodex> yes
[03:45] <robodex> which were fine for me ^_^
[03:45] <Concord_Dawn> robodex, just use ubotu's tell feature.
[03:45] <benkong2> is breezy supposed to have some sort of boot screen to not display console msgs? I get a 640x480 ubuntu screen with a beige box nothing in it for a moment then back to the console when bootinh.
[03:45] <persia> Pickle_Weasel: Listen to our favorite bot: it is the repository of all wisdom.
[03:45] <apokryphos> benkong2: yes, but it's kind of busted at the moment for many setups
[03:45] <brenner> nce.  an official FAQ for breezy?
[03:45] <brenner> *nice
[03:45] <apokryphos> correct
[03:46] <benkong2> apokryphos, aha! so not to worry then I'll wait
[03:46] <robodex> hmm are they finally putting a splash screen in breezy?
[03:46] <apokryphos> brenner: there is going to be a *lot* more documentation for Breezy in general
[03:46] <brenner> apokryphos: excellent
[03:46] <adjacent> whats the release schedule for brezzy?
[03:46] <apokryphos> robodex: I think you mean usplash, rather; yes, they're planning on one.
[03:46] <apokryphos> !breezyschedule
[03:46] <Concord_Dawn> !splash
[03:46] <ubotu> breezyschedule is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule
[03:46] <ubotu> Concord_Dawn: Wish i knew
[03:46] <robodex> right now I'm using splashy with no problems in Hoary (not going to upgrade to Breezy until it's done; I made that mistake with Hoary and it cost me)
[03:47] <Concord_Dawn> !gnomesplash
[03:47] <robodex> no, I'm using splashy
[03:47] <ubotu> Concord_Dawn: Do they come in packets of five?
[03:47] <benkong2> is the chroot documentation for a 32bit firefox stable for use with breezy. AMD64 3200+ nvidia machine
[03:47] <adjacent> ahh, nice
[03:47] <benkong2> what is !breezyschedule?
[03:48] <adjacent> ubotu breezyschedule is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule
[03:48] <ubotu> ...but breezyschedule is already something else...
[03:48] <persia> benkong2: It asks ubotu to tell us all about the Breezy Badger schedule.
[03:48] <benkong2> persia, thanks
[03:48] <apokryphos> adjacent: I've already set it, as you can see
[03:48] <adjacent> apokryphos: i was just repeating to benkong2  =)
[03:48] <NoHope> Is it possible to know if some index is auto_increment?
[03:48] <brenner> benkong2: haven't you been here before? :)
[03:49] <NoHope> ops... bad channel
[03:49] <brenner> i'm sure i've seen you
[03:49] <benkong2> brenner, yes but as hoary not breezy
[03:49] <benkong2> just did that last night
[03:49] <Concord_Dawn> Can someone help me with this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1720
[03:49] <brenner> benkong2: hehe, no.  just thought you would've seen an ubotu trigger by now
[03:50] <benkong2> brenner, no I do ubotu show repos or something like that
[03:50] <robodex> heh I didn't use ubuntu for about three months (had problems with 3D rendering which turned me off to the distro completely) so this is my first time in here in about that long
[03:50] <robodex> aside from the other night when I had a small problem with sound
[03:51] <benkong2> anyway I got hoary 32 bit running on my amd64 laptop using qemu and I put breezy on my 64 bit desktop last night works great so far just got to get around that flash bit and java thing
[03:52] <brenner> benkong2: flash and java are borked in 64 iirc
[03:52] <apokryphos> there is no flash in 64-bit, of course
[03:52] <apokryphos> not sure if it's working with chroot
[03:52] <benkong2> hmmm...yes macromedia is slow on 64 flash
[03:53] <apokryphos> Firefox itself has been a bit shaky in breezy lately, but recent checkouts seem to be shaping up.
[03:53] <benkong2> My thought was a 32bit firefox install in chroot
[03:53] <brenner> apokryphos: from all the firefox complaints i've seen, bugs don't seem to be restricted to breezy
[03:54] <apokryphos> indeed, but it's not my browser of choice =)
[03:55] <brenner> apokryphos: neither is it mine :)
[03:55] <marcin_ant> hi all again
[03:55] <marcin_ant> any breezy user here?
[03:55] <benkong2> brenner, can I install java 5.0 for use with my Eclipse IDE in breezy?
[03:56] <brenner> er, no idea .. never used eclipse ... or breezy :)
[03:56] <apokryphos> brenner: Opera?
[03:56] <benkong2> k //-}
[03:57] <brenner> apokryphos: mozilla.
[03:57] <brenner> doens't opera have those ads or something?
[03:57] <apokryphos> brenner: are there really any advantages to using that over ff?
[03:57] <benkong2> anybody using deer park?
[03:57] <apokryphos> brenner: for the free version, yes; though, that actually pretty minor (i.e. not distracting at all, at least for me).
[03:58] <apokryphos> *they actually are
[03:58] <aftertaf> !deer park
[03:58] <ubotu> aftertaf: What?
[03:58] <aftertaf> lol
[03:58] <brenner> apokryphos: *chuckle* good question.  same gecko engine right?  i really don't know.  i use it cos i'm so used to it...but i've never found the problems people seem to be having with ff
[03:59] <benkong2> !deer park
[03:59] <apokryphos> brenner: same engine, yes; it's not developed anymore too, I believe.
[03:59] <aftertaf> 1.0.6 does crash
[04:00] <brenner> apokryphos: oh? wasn't aware of it being dropped actually
[04:01] <brenner> apokryphos: as a gnome user .. i wouldn't know of konquerer's goodness :)  i did hear it passed the acid2 test though
[04:01] <apokryphos> yup, indeed. :)
[04:02] <brenner> aftertaf: what's the latest version again?
[04:03] <bretzel>  Hi, Q: How to disable completely GRUB on automatic updates? 'cause I have insttalled another distro on my comp. and I've setup its bootloader to boot ubuntu.
[04:03] <brenner> apokryphos: not that the acid2 test means everything though. :)
[04:03] <marcin_ant> anyone  knows what is this network applet in notification area in breezy?
[04:04] <marcin_ant> I had this applet after fresh breezy installation
[04:04] <marcin_ant> and now after reboot this applet disappeared
[04:05] <bretzel> marcin_ant: You cannot guess its name in the "applet" submenu ?
[04:05] <persia> bretzel: You can uninstall grub from your ubuntu environment, and it won't update on kernel updates.  You'll need to manage it manually in your other distro.
[04:05] <apokryphos> brenner: indeed, but KHTML is looking good. The fact that current Safari developers were more knowledgable with gecko and compared, then went for khtml is really quite interesting :)
[04:05] <marcin_ant> brenner, it is not applet
[04:06] <marcin_ant> brenner, this is why I cannot find this stuff in applet menu
[04:06] <brenner> marcin_ant: why're you telling me? :D
[04:06] <aleitner> anybody tried to run ubuntu (hoary or breezy) on a mac mini?
[04:06] <marcin_ant> brenner, it's something that runs in notification area
[04:06] <marcin_ant> brenner, oops
[04:06] <marcin_ant> brenner, sorry
[04:06] <bretzel> persia: Thanks for the hint. what if I simply delete its /boot/grub subdir ?
[04:07] <marcin_ant> bretzel, this is not applet - it's tool that runs in notification area
[04:07] <brenner> apokryphos: lol....very subtle.  i guess i need to .....switch to KDE? *thunder strike, eerie music*
[04:07] <bretzel> marcin_ant: sorry :-) I am not aware of any breezy stuff ....
[04:08] <apokryphos> brenner: whatever blows your hair back 8)
[04:08] <persia> bretzel: You don't want to do that: it will confuse the packaging system.  Just run `sudo aptitude remove grub`.  Mind you, you *need* to have a bootloader working for this to be safe...
[04:08] <marcin_ant> bretzel, ok got it now
[04:08] <marcin_ant> bretzel, it's called 'netapplet'
[04:08] <rusty> t
[04:09] <aftertaf> brenner, i like kde :)
[04:09] <bretzel> persia: I do have ( lilo wich I prefer over yet powerfull GRUB) but I am scared that if I remove GRUB, the script will reset the mba at the known previous state :-)
[04:10] <brenner> aftertaf: that's nice :)
[04:10] <apokryphos> heh, opera's progress on acid2: http://operawatch.blogspot.com/2005/08/update-on-operas-acid2-progress.html
[04:10] <rusty> how do I get and install midnight commander?
[04:10] <bretzel> marcin_ant: cool! how it looks btw ?
[04:10] <marcin_ant> bretzel, pretty nice
[04:11] <marcin_ant> bretzel, something simmilar to networkManager
[04:11] <bretzel> :-) I wish  we can have it in hoary then :-)
[04:11] <persia> bretzel: I don't see a /var/lib/dpkg/info/grub.prerm on my system.  If you don't have one either, I think it won't reset the MBR.  Can anyone confirm?
[04:12] <marcin_ant> bretzel, some info http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/15233.html
[04:12] <marcin_ant> bretzel, and screenshots
[04:12] <persia> rusty: aptitude install mc
[04:12] <brenner> apokryphos: getting close ... only one red ear to go :)
[04:12] <rusty> thanks persia
[04:13] <bretzel> persia: You are kind for helping me :-)
[04:13] <bretzel> marcin_ant: cool thanks!
[04:14] <persia> Seveas: Is it true that if there is no /var/lib/dpkg/pkgname.prerm file, no script will be run on package removal?
[04:14] <Concord_Dawn> Can someone help me with this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1720
[04:15] <Seveas> persia, afaik yes
[04:15] <persia> Seveas: Thanks.
[04:15] <persia> bretzel: Seveas is usually right.  It should be safe to remove without any adverse effects.
[04:15] <bretzel> Thanks persia, Seveas!
[04:16] <Seveas> was there a netsplit earlier today?
[04:16] <brenner> sure was
[04:16] <persia> Seveas: Many.  The servers were also rebooted.
[04:16] <Seveas> half of the channel is in #ubuntu-unregged now
[04:16] <Zhukov> Seveas, are you there?
[04:16] <Zhukov> i need to have a word with you
[04:17] <Seveas> too bad, spambots are still here
[04:17] <opossumjack> could anyone help me? I've just installed ubuntu on my laptop but I have never been asked to setup root password.... What can I do to use my root account?
[04:17] <Seveas> Zhukov, sounds serious, 'sup?
[04:17] <Seveas> opossumjack, by default there is no root pass
[04:17] <Seveas> !root
[04:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[04:17] <Zhukov> :) Seveas nothing serious, i was just wondering you can let me update my java 1.4 packages through your server
[04:18] <Seveas> Zhukov, *g*
[04:18] <Seveas> msg me a user/pass coimbination
[04:18] <TPC> so, my dad bought the last parts to his new computer today
[04:18] <TPC> and I'm helping him install the hardware
[04:18] <TPC> he's going to use his old hdd because its not too old
[04:18] <TPC> and it has ubuntu installed on it
[04:18] <cemc> a question on this disabled root account...
[04:18] <TPC> anything I should do with it before putting it in the new computer so he can run it without having to reinstall?
[04:19] <cemc> if you shut down uncleanly, and at startup ubuntu wants you to run an fsck manually...
[04:19] <bretzel> persia: done, but I did this best-friend "sudo dd if=/dev/hda of=~/mbr bs=512 count=1" before removing grub....:-)
[04:19] <cemc> it won't ask for the root pass ?
[04:19] <opossumjack> I'm trying with no password but I can't log in
[04:19] <Seveas> cemc, not if you did not set one
[04:20] <Seveas> opossumjack, read that page
[04:20] <Seveas> you can not (and SHOULD not) logina s root
[04:20] <Seveas> you can become root with sudo
[04:20] <persia> bretzel: Wise.  Did it cause any issues, or did it work?
[04:20] <brenner> TPC: not sure i get you ... he has ubuntu installed on a HDD already, and you want to just plug it into his new computer, hoping you don't have to do a new install?
[04:20] <cemc> hm, i'll have to try that ;)
[04:21] <Concord_Dawn> O_O
[04:21] <bretzel> persia: no at this moment, did uninstall greacefully. Have to check it on next reboot tho:-)
[04:21] <cemc> what will happen if i just reset the comp
[04:21] <topyli> oh, hardware breaks and is replaced around old debian installs all the time :)
[04:21] <TPC> brenner, yes.. since ubuntu auto-detects most hardware at boot it should be able to at least get into console mode
[04:22] <cemc> Seveas: it won't ask you? it will just drop you to a shell ?
[04:22] <bretzel> persia: ah, just a warning telling that grub subdir is not empty - thus not removed :-) good!
[04:22] <Concord_Dawn> Can someone help me with this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1720
[04:22] <Seveas> cemc, if you did not set a root password it will say 'hit enter to login as root or ctrl+d to continue'
[04:22] <Rug> Howdy all
[04:23] <brenner> TPC: i'm not sure really. :)  it sounds ok by theory though
[04:23] <bretzel> rebooting to verify ... see you thanks again!
[04:23] <cemc> Seveas: ok, thx
[04:23] <TPC> brenner, but I probably have to re-configure X manually
[04:23] <Rug> Has anybody ever heard of a "Grub error 22" being caused by a bad power-supply?
[04:23] <opossumjack> Seveas, thanks a lot, now it works, eh eh eh...
[04:23] <persia> Concord_Dawn: I know nothing about oidentd, but as noone else has said anything for a while, you might try http://linuxreviews.org/man/oidentd.conf/
[04:24] <brenner> TPC: probably....your old config files will still be on the disk
[04:24] <Concord_Dawn> persia, that's just the man page, read that. It doesn't help.
[04:24] <TPC> brenner, I know
[04:24] <Concord_Dawn> I've gone over all the documentation.
[04:24] <persia> Concord_Dawn: Sorry then.
[04:24] <Concord_Dawn> it's ok, at least you tried :)
[04:25] <anticop> Hi!
[04:25] <anticop> i have intel 536 EP dialup modem
[04:25] <brenner> Concord_Dawn: my guess from the error, is that is a global config file...and you're using syntax meant for a user defined config file ... or something
[04:25] <brenner> *that it is a
[04:25] <anticop> i'm trying to connect to internet
[04:25] <Concord_Dawn> brenner, I looked, I'm using the global config syntax.
[04:25] <Concord_Dawn> really
[04:25] <moo> what's a good gui based ftp client besides gftp?
[04:25] <anticop> but I must use driver first
[04:25] <herrpoon> hi does anyone know an answer for this post:http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35988&highlight=resolution+vnc
[04:25] <Concord_Dawn> the example looks almost identical to min
[04:25] <Concord_Dawn> mine*
[04:26] <brenner> Concord_Dawn: which is line 22? :P
[04:26] <Twiggy> Is Breezy still a big no-no or is it fair game for brave folks?
[04:26] <moo> what's a good gui based ftp client besides gftp?
[04:26] <Concord_Dawn> line with user { on it
[04:26] <bretzel> here again, worked. But have to check on next kernel updates ...
[04:26] <anticop> when I tried to compile my driver it said
[04:26] <anticop> that I must
[04:26] <Concord_Dawn> Twiggy, fair game for the brave.
[04:26] <anticop> get kernel source
[04:26] <anticop> how to do that??/\
[04:26] <persia> Twiggy: Breezy is up for testing, but you'll probably do better to start with Colony 3: X is uninstallable today.
[04:26] <moo> KBEAR!?
[04:26] <Twiggy> Concord_Dawn: Colony 3?
[04:26] <Rug> it was actually interesting.  I couldn't boot, so I tried installing XP, (for shits & giggles).  Windows wouldn't install either..  (It couldn't find a usable partition) ***BUT fdisk was working..  wierd but cool.
[04:27] <Concord_Dawn> Twiggy, nfi.
[04:27] <brenner> Concord_Dawn: maybe you don't need the user{} then ... just have default{...}.   (note: just a stab, never used oident)
[04:27] <Seveas> Zhukov, stull here?
[04:27] <moo> I WILL USE THE KBEAR THEN, BECAUSE THE GFTP IS UNUSABLE AND CRASHES EACH TIME I MOVE TOO FAST
[04:27] <persia> Twiggy: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-August/009741.html
[04:27] <aftertaf> bye all !
[04:27] <Twiggy> persia: thankya
[04:27] <ompaul> after installing gnome-lokkit starting to do the setup and cancelling the setup I ended up with a box that was not working eariler today - I did iptables -F but that just put it in a state to drop all packets :( anyway I will fix it when I go back but I was wondering if anyone else had come across it, or was it just me remember iptables -F set all to drop I think this is a bit of a retrograde step myself :) anyone see this, (don
[04:28] <Concord_Dawn> brenner, in the global config, the user { line specifies that particular user's privelges, such as spoofing other users and on privileged ports.
[04:28] <noddaba> Is there a gui or something to aid people in editing their fstab?  trying to help a new linux user add an additional hard drive to their system, and trying to avoid having them edit the fstab manually
[04:28] <brenner> Concord_Dawn: ah, ok.   like i said, never used it. sorry. :-/
[04:28] <Seveas> noddaba, there will be in breezy
[04:28] <Turtlewind> Hi - can I ask a question about Breezy Colony 3?
[04:28] <Seveas> automaounting win/mac partitions in hoary can be done with a little script i made
[04:28] <Seveas> Turtlewind, sure
[04:29] <Turtlewind> Just in general, does it work properly yet?
[04:29] <Turtlewind> I'm getting a new PC, and was wondering whether to install that or stick with Hoary
[04:29] <noddaba> Seveas, ah, ok.  thanks.  Is this script posted anywhere?
[04:29] <apokryphos> Turtlewind: generally, yes.
[04:29] <Seveas> Turtlewind, it still has some very rough edges
[04:29] <ompaul> Turtlewind, it is not a release so it may work today and tomorrow all could be very broke
[04:29] <persia> Turtlewind: Not yet: it needs testing.  If you are willing to file bugs, most things kinda work most days.  If not, stick with Hoary for another six or seven weeks.
[04:29] <Seveas> noddaba, ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[04:30] <anticop> how to run gnome-ppp ???
[04:30] <Turtlewind> OK - I'll give it a try then, and I've still got my Hoary CD if it's all too scary
[04:31] <Turtlewind> Thanks a lot everyone
[04:31] <noddaba> Seveas, thanks
[04:31] <ompaul> Turtlewind, enjoy it
[04:31] <anticop> please tell me how I can run gnome-ppp???????????
[04:32] <Rayen> Hi, I was wondering, which release I need for Ubuntu on my P4 2.6GHz for desktop/gaming use?
[04:32] <Concord_Dawn> Can someone help me with this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1720
[04:32] <DjKritical> Hoary Hedgehog
[04:32] <persia> anticop: I don't use it, but it appears you can launch it by entering "gnome-ppp" on a command line.
[04:33] <persia> Rayen: Today, Hoary Hedgehog.
[04:33] <ompaul> Rayen the current release is Hoary Hedgehog 5.04
[04:33] <Crusty_> hi
[04:33] <DjKritical> Rayen, You always download the newest relase (they come out every few months).... it's supported for 18 months or something... The most recent is Hoary Hedgehog (Ubuntu version 5.04)
[04:33] <Crusty_> kann mir jemand mit swat helfen wenn ich die ip in den browser eingib dann bringt er das die seite nicht gefunden wurde
[04:34] <Seveas> Rayen, ubuntu hoary
[04:34] <Rayen> DjKritical hmm, how old is Hoary 5.04 ?
[04:35] <Seveas> Rayen, 4 months
[04:35] <Seveas> in 2 months the next version will be released
[04:35] <DjKritical> Rayen, well.. a new version is coming out in October.. and I think a new one comes out every 6 months... so 4 months old
[04:36] <Deansweb2004> 1
[04:36] <brenner> gee, what's with all the joining/leaving? :-/
[04:36] <brenner> i thought people recovered from the netsplit ages ago
[04:36] <ompaul> that aint a netsplit
[04:37] <DjKritical> brenner, idling has gone out of fashion, these days it's rejoining that's the new fad
[04:37] <DjKritical> crazy youth of today!
[04:37] <brenner> DjKritical: heh.  indeed.
[04:37] <Seveas> brenner, they are spambots
[04:38] <Seveas> but they are quite useless with the new server features
[04:38] <ompaul> seveas PM?
[04:38] <brenner> Seveas: ah, ok.  good to hear we're protected
[04:38] <Seveas> ompaul, k
[04:39] <DjKritical> wow.. whoever runs them has a lot of hosts
[04:39] <vader1102> wow, I didn't have to /join lol
[04:40] <Seveas> DjKritical, infected windows machines
[04:40] <brenner> *chuckle* ... CelineDion
[04:40] <Seveas> stupid windows...
[04:40] <vader1102> For some reason my Evolution mail is having a problem sending my email
[04:41] <frans-th> anyone: what is collony 3? breeze colony 3
[04:41] <brenner> milestone release
[04:41] <persia> frans-th: It is explained at http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-August/009741.html
[04:41] <ompaul> vader1102 look done to the bottom corner of the screen, if there is an 'unplugged' plug and socket click on them and away you go :)
[04:41] <DjKritical> Is it not possible woah
[04:41] <DjKritical> *woah
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[04:42] <Seveas> goddamnit
[04:42] <Seveas> more splits
[04:42] <vader1102> it says online
[04:43] <brenner> heh...isn't lilo a freenode senior?  guess they aren't invincible either
[04:43] <Crasp> hello, when i use places -> network servers and i try to connect to a place with the ssh(sftp/scp) protocol it keeps on telling me that it cannot connect while commandline scp works.. how can i make it work in network servers?
[04:43] <frans-th> i own ubuntu.or.id
[04:43] <frans-th> anytips for this domain?
[04:43] <Pie-maker> flood of some sort?
[04:43] <ompaul> vadar1102 try to send yourself a mail
[04:44] <vader1102> k
[04:44] <Seveas> frans-th, get smurfix to forward ubuntu-id.org to it
[04:44] <ompaul> pit-maker no the split rejoined the sync in back :)
[04:44] <frans-th> Seveas: i email Matthias also,
[04:44] <brenner> ompaul: don't you use tab-complete? :)
[04:44] <frans-th> Seveas: is there a contact, so i can replicate ubuntu.com website to here?
[04:44] <kyle> anybody here running ubuntu breezy and having mysql (post-)instalation problems?
[04:44] <ompaul> brenner not in sirc :( this is not my usual box
[04:45] <Seveas> frans-th, that's not easily possible
[04:45] <vader1102> ompaul, not going through
[04:45] <kamikazesponge> hey cemc
[04:45] <brenner> ompaul: bummer
[04:45] <kamikazesponge> cemc: i managed to set up openvpn on linux and use windows-clients
[04:45] <frans-th> Seveas: i just need the plone stuff, we will use indonesian languge
[04:45] <vader1102> ompaul, it just started this a few minutes ago
[04:45] <Seveas> frans-th, they can't give it
[04:45] <ompaul> vadar1102 what error is it giving or are they all in your outbox?
[04:45] <Seveas> I've been asking the same a while back
[04:46] <Seveas> I ended up using my own engine and translating & transforming the text
[04:46] <vader1102> no error, it just sits there trying to send my email, all of which are very small and only text
[04:46] <Zhukov> Seveas, i cant log in :S
[04:46] <frans-th> SEveas: no problem, i have a blogger from rollerweblogger.org, i think this is enough..
[04:46] <Crasp> hello, when i use places -> network servers and i try to connect to a place with the ssh(sftp/scp) protocol it keeps on telling me that it cannot connect while commandline scp works.. how can i make it work in network servers?
[04:46] <Seveas> Zhukov, i said: msg me a user/pass and I'll let you in
[04:46] <frans-th> Seveas: i just wait the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>approve, so we have mailing list already
[04:47] <kamikazesponge> what lib contains gzopen?
[04:47] <thongta> hi all, i need help
[04:47] <Zhukov> Seveas, i did
[04:47] <thongta> i wanna Java programming in Ubuntu
[04:47] <kyle> thongta: java isn't free :P
[04:47] <kamikazesponge> thongta: tried apt-cache search java?
[04:47] <thongta> :(
[04:47] <maddler> java is evil!
[04:48] <thongta> plz tell me step by step
[04:48] <Zhukov> thongta, whats the problem?
[04:48] <thongta> i'm a new bie
[04:48] <frans-th> thongta: you can install java from sun, but remember the.bin version, work here
[04:48] <Zhukov> thongta, w8 a second
[04:48] <thongta> ok, thz
[04:48] <kyle> maddler: and java in ppc is just a pita :)
[04:48] <frans-th> java is evil :) but after Apache Harmony finish, will make it become an heaven?? will it?
[04:48] <kamikazesponge> thongta: it is described on the wiki how apt-get and apt-cache works, try reading that first
[04:48] <Seveas> Zhukov, I got no message
[04:48] <maddler> kyle: indeed :D
[04:49] <maddler> thongta: thee sould be
[04:49] <maddler> a thread on ubuntu forums...
[04:49] <bytefoo> how do i get my Fn keys working in ubuntu
[04:49] <kamikazesponge> but does anyone know what lib contains gzopen?
[04:49] <kyle> (mysql-server in breezy seems plain broken)
[04:49] <kamikazesponge> maddler: i read something about it on the wiki
[04:49] <Zhukov> add these lines to your etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ warty java
[04:49] <Zhukov> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ warty multiverse
[04:49] <Concord_Dawn> kyle, that's probably true.
[04:49] <Zhukov> abd install the sun packages for java, search for them in synaptic
[04:49] <thongta> i know how to use apt-get
[04:50] <kamikazesponge> then use it for downloading java compilers..
[04:50] <maddler> kamikazesponge: try dpkg -s
[04:50] <maddler> dpkg -S
[04:50] <maddler> sorry
[04:50] <kamikazesponge> maddler: what's dpkg?
[04:50] <brenner> Zhukov: warty repos!?
[04:50] <Concord_Dawn> Zhukov, warty repos?
[04:50] <brenner> Concord_Dawn: copycat
[04:50] <Zhukov> brenner, they are there? ho
[04:50] <maddler> kamikazesponge: command line package manager/installer
[04:50] <kyle> Concord_Dawn: yup, but it's been this way for 6 weeks or so... I think I'll have to compile it myself or something :)
[04:50] <Zhukov> sorry...
[04:50] <thongta> ohh, i use hoary
[04:50] <brenner> Zhukov: he's probably running warty...bad idea to mix afaik
[04:51] <thongta> dont warty
[04:51] <brenner> *running hoary >_<
[04:51] <kamikazesponge> maddler: so i type dpkg -S gzopen and it finds nothing, did i do something wrong?
[04:51] <vader1102> ompaul, me thinks I have found a bug lol, they finally sent but not without me having to go to each of them and "re-send"them
[04:51] <vader1102> brb
[04:51] <thongta> hey all, i was install java packet
[04:52] <persia> kamikazesponge: apt-file search gzopen only returns php docs.  Is this a PHP function?
[04:52] <maddler> kamikazesponge: -Swill show all pckages containing given file...
[04:52] <thongta> i can compile file HelloWorld.java to HelloWorld.class
[04:52] <ompaul> vader1102 shut it down and if it happens again document it
[04:52] <thongta> but i can run java HelloWorld
[04:52] <thongta> sorry, i cant do that
[04:52] <kamikazesponge> persia: i don't know, ./configure from ettercap asks for it
[04:52] <__filip_> what is the command to copy an dir ?
[04:52] <Sephy|X> Has anyone here installed the D-Link dwl-610 wireless adapter on the 2.6 kernel?
[04:52] <bytefoo> how do i get my Fn keys on my laptop working in ubuntu
[04:52] <kamikazesponge> __filip_: cp
[04:52] <persia> __filip_: cp -Pra src dest
[04:53] <persia> __filip_: OOps!  That's cp -pRa src dest
[04:53] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> hi there
[04:53] <ompaul> kamikazesponge why is it that you want to compile it?
[04:53] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> just a little question
[04:53] <maddler> kamikazesponge: try installing zlib
[04:53] <kamikazesponge> ompaul: to use it?
[04:53] <kamikazesponge> maddler: ok
[04:53] <Random_Sindrom> Ov3r: hi
[04:53] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> how do i download kernel modules for hoary 5.0.4
[04:54] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> ?
[04:54] <maddler> kamikazesponge: but couldn you use supplied package?
[04:54] <persia> Ov3rReAcTiOn: What sort of module do you need?
[04:54] <kamikazesponge> maddler: for as far as i know ettercap comes only in source
[04:54] <ompaul> kamikazesponge, does it not install with apt ?
[04:54] <kamikazesponge> ompaul: good point, didn't try that yet
[04:54] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> i need to compile the i915 xorg driver
[04:54] <maddler> kamikazesponge: no... a packages is available...
[04:54] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> but i need to have the kernel sources
[04:55] <ompaul> maddler we have him on the right track
[04:55] <kamikazesponge> maddler: on the official site?
[04:55] <maddler> kamikazesponge: apt-get install ettercap
[04:55] <persia> kamikazesponge: There is a package for hoary, in universe.
[04:55] <ompaul> kami no try your own box
[04:55] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> i'm not very use to work with ubuntu i'm just testing on my laptop
[04:55] <kamikazesponge> E: Couldn't find package ettercap
[04:55] <persia> Ov3rReAcTiOn: You can get the modified kernel sources by installing linux-tree
[04:55] <brenner> Ov3rReAcTiOn: apt-cache search linux-source and then install the one that matches 'uname -r'
[04:55] <maddler> kamikazesponge: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[04:55] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> okay
[04:56] <brenner> or maybe that. :-/
[04:56] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> tell me something
[04:56] <kamikazesponge> maddler: ok
[04:56] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> i'm having a bit problems with my graphic drivers
[04:56] <persia> !ubuntuguide
[04:56] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[04:56] <persia> !repositories
[04:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:56] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> its an intel graphics 915gm
[04:56] <borfast> hi everyone
[04:57] <brenner> ubotu: tell ompaul about compiling
[04:57] <brenner> :D
[04:57] <maddler> persia: got it... :)
[04:57] <brenner> Ov3rReAcTiOn: what sort of problems?
[04:57] <ompaul> brenner thank you :)
[04:57] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> simply dont work
[04:58] <ompaul> !compiling
[04:58] <brenner> Ov3rReAcTiOn: need more info...can't start X? no 3d? what?
[04:58] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> no 3d
[04:58] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> and i just start x with vesa driver
[04:58] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> sucks
[04:59] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> and i'm trying to get my intel driver working
[04:59] <brenner> Ov3rReAcTiOn: *nod* i'm guessing you have integrated graphics?
[04:59] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> yes
[04:59] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> and share memory
[04:59] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> its a hp laptop
[04:59] <Sephy|X> Anyone have any experience with the D-Link DWL-610 wireless adapter?
[05:00] <kamikazesponge> thanks for the hint about repositories! ^^
[05:00] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> brenner, can u help me so..
[05:01] <brenner> Ov3rReAcTiOn: need to work out which driver will give you 3d support
[05:01] <Tallia1[UbuntU] 2> hi, i'm quite new in linux system, i've used it for 4 months on a adsl connection behind an hardware firewall, now i'll spend a year in a university campus, do you think that is better if i install a personal firewall?
[05:01] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> okay
[05:02] <elmago> hi guys
[05:02] <brenner> s/need to/you need to
[05:02] <brenner> :)
[05:02] <apokryphos> hi elmago
[05:03] <Tallia1[UbuntU] 2> brenner: are you speaking with me?
[05:03] <elmago> i want to mount a new ext3 partion can someone tell me what i have to add in my fstab
[05:03] <elmago> its /dev/hda5
[05:03] <brenner> Tallia1[UbuntU] 2: not right now. no :)
[05:03] <elmago> and/media/daten
[05:03] <elmago> but what else do i have to add
[05:04] <elmago> how does the hole line look like?
[05:04] <brenner> Tallia1[UbuntU] 2: but to answer your question, afaik, firewall and antivirus isn't really necessary on linux boxes ... i could be wrong though
[05:04] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> brenner, i already download kernel source i'm gonna try to compile driver let's see what gonna happen
[05:05] <elmago> any ideas?
[05:05] <elmago> plz
[05:05] <Sephy|X> Anyone have any experience with the D-Link DWL-610 wireless adapter?
[05:06] <elmago> /dev/hda1 /media/windows_c ntfs ro,uid=1000 0 0 thats my line for my windows partion but what do i have to write for the new ext3 partion?
[05:08] <vader1102> wow what is going on, there are a lot of quits and rejoins again
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[05:08] <elmago> ;)
[05:08] <titus> yep
[05:08] <jjazz> I'm trying to setup freenx, so I'm looking for a hoary package for nxclient.  I can't find it in any repository.  Can I use the .deb file from nomachine.com?
[05:08] <jjazz> Let's try this again: I'm trying to setup freenx, so I'm looking for a hoary package for nxclient.  I can't find it in any repository.  Can I use the .deb file from nomachine.com?
[05:09] <Sephy|X> elmago: Do you know which hd it is?
[05:09] <elmago> yes hda5
[05:09] <ompaul> jjazz have you added lots of repositories?
[05:09] <elmago> and i a direction /media/daten
[05:09] <Sephy|X> sudo mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/whatever
[05:10] <Sephy|X> -r if you want read only
[05:10] <elmago> yeah
[05:10] <elmago> but what do i have to add in my fstab
[05:10] <brenner> jjazz: afaik, it's usually best to install from source, maybe using checkinstall to make things easier......the deb file might have been created for a different distro
[05:10] <jjazz> ompaul:  yes, I have.  The only one that has this file is the kanotix repository, but that one isn't ubuntu-specific, and it requires a bunch of libs that are newer than Hoary uses.
[05:10] <Sephy|X> That, is more than I can help you with, I've used ubuntu for 1 day now ;D
[05:10] <jjazz> brenner:  ok.  I'll hunt down source for this.  I was just hoping somebody had packed it for ubuntu
[05:10] <elmago> ;)
[05:10] <brenner> jjazz: if you can't find it in the repos ... then not likely
[05:11] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> brenner, sorry i can't compile driver
[05:11] <elmago> but someone must be here who can tell my what i have to write in my fstab
[05:11] <elmago> plz
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> similer line, but replace ntfs with ext3, change the mount point path, and the uid/ro options are not needed
[05:11] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> brenner, he tell's me ... ERROR: Kernel modules did not compile
[05:11] <ompaul> jjazz you can of course start to maintain it for ubuntu :) that would be good :)
[05:11] <elmago> ok
[05:11] <brenner> elmago: options should be 'ext3 umask=000 0 0' maybe?
[05:11] <jjazz> elmago:  google has a ton of info on fstab
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> 'learning by example'
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> 'learning by googling'
[05:12] <elmago> yeah for windows partions
[05:12] <jjazz> elmago:  Or is your question more specific?
[05:12] <brenner> jjazz: no your recommendation was good. :)
[05:12] <elmago> /dev/hda5 /media/daten ext3  0 0
[05:12] <elmago> is this correct
[05:12] <elmago> ?
[05:12] <brenner> elmago: seriously ... googling for mount ext3 will give you heaps of stuff...
[05:12] <thongta> hi all, i use tounchpad in my laptop, it cant work properly on ubuntu as windows
[05:13] <thongta> plz help me
[05:13] <kyle> thongta: #define properly
[05:13] <brenner> elmago: er, put a defaults after the ext3
[05:13] <ompaul> elmago if you have formatted the driveit  look s okay
[05:13] <thongta> my english so bad
[05:13] <elmago> ok thx i try that
[05:14] <thongta> sumary: i can't use my tounchpad as windows
[05:14] <thongta> as double click, scroll,...
[05:14] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> brenner, can u help me or not?
[05:15] <brenner> Ov3rReAcTiOn: dunno....what's the full error? (put it in a pastebin if more than 3 lines)
[05:15] <thongta> who can help me my problem?
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> thongta,  check the ubuntu wiki's and forums yet? they have a specific laptop forum as well.
[05:16] <thongta> see me link of wiki's and forums
[05:16] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> brenner, Compiling...ERROR: Kernel modules did not compile
[05:16] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> brenner, i alredy download kernel source
[05:16] <thongta> plz see me that link of wiki's and forums, Dr_Willis
[05:16] <kamikazesponge> hmm.. guess i understand how to disconnect a host from the network -_-
[05:16] <thongta> Dr_Willis, plz see me that link
[05:17] <brenner> Ov3rReAcTiOn: maybe haven't loaded a module then?  i really don't know ... search the forum for your graphic card...
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> Huh?
[05:17] <thongta> hi hi
[05:17] <thongta> ^^
[05:17] <Ov3rReAcTiOn> okay thanks anyway
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> thongta,  urls are in the Topic.
[05:18] <thongta> how?
[05:18] <thongta> ok
[05:18] <thongta> thanks anyway ^^
[05:18] <thongta> i'm a new bie
[05:18] <brenner> thongta: we can see that. :)
[05:19] <__filip_> how can i make an starter that takes my into my hda5?
[05:19] <cemc> __filip_: a what?
[05:19] <__filip_> i whant to make en icon on my dekstop that take me into my hda5.
[05:20] <cemc> aa :)
[05:20] <__filip_> you know how to do?
[05:20] <brenner> __filip_: if it's mounted, i think there's a gconf option to show mounted disks
[05:20] <__filip_> it is mounted
[05:21] <__filip_> i have an icon on my antoher computer that make that
[05:22] <kamikazesponge> woo ettercap works ^^
[05:22] <__filip_> someone know how i can do?
[05:24] <Tobsn> hi
[05:24] <Tobsn> can anyone help me with installing ubuntu beside XP
[05:24] <Tobsn> :)
[05:24] <brenner> __filip_: i'm sure there'd be a forum topic on it ...
[05:25] <brenner> Tobsn: you mean dualbooting?
[05:25] <Tobsn> right
[05:25] <__filip_> brenner: ok
[05:25] <apokryphos> Tobsn: on installation of ubuntu it'll automatically detect it
[05:25] <brenner> Tobsn: waht probs are you hacing?
[05:25] <apokryphos> and appropriately put it in GRUB (the bootloader)
[05:25] <Tobsn> do i have to install any bootloaders or something?
[05:26] <brenner> apokryphos: i thought by default, it *replaces* windows entirely. :)
[05:26] <Tobsn> no thats no option
[05:26] <Tobsn> ;)
[05:26] <Tobsn> i need a bootmanager, but i dont know how to install it with ubuntu
[05:26] <Concord_Dawn> ubotu: tell Tobsn about grub
[05:26] <brenner> Tobsn: it will install GRUb for you later ... have you set up partitions already?
[05:27] <Sephy|X> Can anyone help me install my D-Link dwl-610 wireless adapter?
[05:28] <nmoore> hi would somebody kindly check for me what /media/cdrom0 is? is it a plain directory, link or whatever
[05:28] <borfast> guys, I just installed Ubuntu for AMD 64 and then I reinstalled Windows, which overwrote the MBR. now I want to reinstall GRUB on the MBR but booting from the Ubuntu_AMD64 CD, I can't mount the already installed Ubuntu system in order to chroot into it and then reinstall grub. can someone help me getting GRUB back, please?
[05:28] <Tobsn> i have two partitions. one with XP and another free one... but befor the install process, ubuntu asks for the bootflag... and its set for the XP partition.. do i have to change it?
[05:28] <apokryphos> brenner: not really
[05:29] <apokryphos> Tobsn: of course, you just have to allocate a root partition; any other drives connected to your computer with windows it'll detect, for the bootloader
[05:30] <brenner> Tobsn: i leave the bootflag as default .. i'll let apokryphos tell you what it means ( i don't know myself)
[05:30] <Sephy|X> borfast: Just boot with the ubuntu cd and only set up grub
[05:30] <borfast> Sephy|X: I'm booting with the Ubuntu CD but how do I set up GRUB with it?
[05:31] <apokryphos> Tobsn: don't alter anything on the XP partition
[05:31] <brenner> Sephy|X: doesn't the bootloader install come *after* the system is copied onto disk? :)
[05:31] <Tobsn> ok
[05:31] <Tobsn> so i have to install it the default way and grub will ask me after the process?
[05:31] <Sephy|X> Don't start the installer, start the rescue mode or whatever it's called
[05:32] <apokryphos> Tobsn: (i) if you have windows on another partition, make sure you select to "manually edit the partition table". Then, just select to partition the partition you want linux to be on
[05:32] <apokryphos> Tobsn: you do this by setting the mount point as / and selecting to format as ext3
[05:32] <Sephy|X> I think you're able to log onto your ubuntu system through the cd, if not then just start in rescue mode/terminal mode/whatever and config grub
[05:32] <borfast> Sephy|X: how do I start that? as far as I know, there's no rescue mode on the Ubuntu CD... is there?
[05:32] <brenner> Tobsn: yes, that's still the partitioning stage iirc.....it will ask you to install the bootloader later ... just choose the default option and you should be fine
[05:33] <apokryphos> Tobsn: actually, I also recommend that you have another partition for your /home, but it is exactly necessary
[05:33] <brenner> *default option for the bootloader install
[05:33] <brenner> apokryphos: is or isn't? ;)
[05:33] <apokryphos> 'tis
[05:34] <apokryphos> brenner: wait, what is or isn't?
[05:34] <Sephy|X> borfast: I've used Linux for 1 day so I'm not 100% sure but I think there's special boot parameters which allows you to log into your already installed ubuntu system
[05:34] <brenner> borfast: there's a wiki page for restoring grub after windows install
 I also recommend that you have another partition for your /home, but it is exactly necessary
[05:35] <brenner> apokryphos: i think you meant "isn't" there
[05:35] <borfast> Sephy|X: yes, there's a rescue mode. I'm seing it on the release notes for 5.04.
[05:35] <apokryphos> brenner: indeed, I do.
[05:35] <apokryphos> Tobsn: /home partition is not necessary, typo, sorry
[05:35] <Tobsn> ok, i choose the manual way but ubuntu asks me for the mount point
[05:35] <Tobsn> whats that?
[05:35] <Sephy|X> borfast: Du you know how to open boot.ini in windows?
[05:35] <emile> is there a shortkey for file browser?
[05:35] <borfast> brenner: thanks, I think I can handle it if I can get into the rescue mode, otherwise I'll search for that Wiki page.
[05:36] <brenner> emile: you can set one up
[05:36] <abarbaccia> hey guys - i have an ubuntu question - i made a mythtv box, and i start the program by putting the command in the .xsession file, but then after like 30 minutes the screen will go blank (power save) is there any way i can disable that daemon or anything?
[05:36] <borfast> Sephy|X: I just use notepad, if I recall corretly
[05:36] <Sephy|X> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56723
[05:36] <brenner> borfast: i strongly suggest you find the wiki page 1st :)
[05:36] <Sephy|X> That should work
[05:36] <borfast> brenner: ok, I will, then :)
[05:37] <nmoore> abarbaccia: man xorg.conf
[05:37] <nmoore> abarbaccia: look for BlankTime and StandbyTime
[05:37] <borfast> Sephy|X: thanks for the link, but I prefer to install Grub. I've used that method before and I really don't like it very much
[05:37] <emile> brenner: what would be the apropiate way to do so?
[05:37] <brenner> emile: sys > prefs > k/b shortcuts
[05:37] <Tobsn> whats the mount point?
[05:38] <Tobsn> should i set it to /root or /home or /??
[05:38] <brenner> emile: one your looking for is 'Home folder'
[05:38] <emile> brenner: thnx i never noticed that menu item ;-)
[05:38] <__filip_> how can i allow some ip to connect to me?
[05:38] <brenner> emile: np
[05:38] <Tobsn> filip, iptables
[05:38] <brenner> __filip_: did you find out how to add the icons?
[05:38] <Tobsn> apokryphos?
[05:39] <apokryphos> Tobsn: the mount point for the root partition is /
[05:39] <borfast> ok, it's simple, just like I thought. I just didn't know there was a rescue mode on the CD :) after getting into rescue mode, it's simply the grub-install /dev/sda stuff :)
[05:39] <Tobsn> ok
[05:39] <borfast> thanks for the help, guys
[05:39] <borfast> :)
[05:39] <__filip_> brenner: nope i dont have time now i will search tonicht
[05:39] <Tobsn> tx
[05:39] <abarbaccia> nmoore, what should i put in there?  something ridiculus like 32000 or is there a boolean set to turn it off
[05:40] <brenner> abarbaccia: 0 maybe?
[05:40] <nmoore> abarbaccia: good question, i expect that 0 will disable the feature,
[05:40] <apokryphos> Tobsn: highlight me in future for questions :P. I might miss them otherwise. :)
[05:40] <graabein> hey. anyone installed the gmailchecker from the howto forum+
[05:40] <Tobsn> thx :)
[05:41] <elmago> hi guys
[05:41] <elmago> i just mounted a ext3 partion
[05:41] <Sephy|X> Some guy told me to use the windos driver with ndiswrapper for my wireless pcmcia card, what's that all about?
[05:41] <abarbaccia> i finally got this box working, now its just the matter of making it useable
[05:41] <ekimus> anyone knows if it's safe to assume that the ubuntu user already exists in the cloop image. when booting the live cd? i need to create some psql databases for that user
[05:41] <ekimus> hope that's somehow clear
[05:41] <abarbaccia> Sephy|X, what card is it?
[05:41] <elmago> and it worked but when i want to copy something on it i get permission denied
[05:42] <elmago> whats wrong ?
[05:42] <__filip_> tobsn: if i whant that ip 81.225.33.*** connect to me how i do?
[05:42] <Sephy|X> D-link dwl-610
[05:42] <__filip_> allow that ip to connect to me.
[05:42] <nmoore> abarbaccia: sorry, try putting DPMS off in the corresponding monitor section
[05:42] <Tobsn> reject that ip in the iptables
[05:42] <abarbaccia> nmoore, i was just at that part
[05:42] <elmago> Sephy what nootbook do you have?
[05:42] <Tobsn> but i dont know it exactly
[05:42] <__filip_> tobsn : i dont get it.?
[05:42] <__filip_> ok
[05:42] <Sephy|X> Acer Aspire 1350
[05:43] <Sephy|X> It's a pcmcia wireless card so it's not something included with my computer
[05:43] <brenner> graabein: i tried to...but couldn't work it out. :-/
[05:43] <__filip_> someone know an easy way that allow ip?
[05:44] <__filip_> to allow ip*
[05:44] <graabein> brenner, me neither
[05:44] <elmago> perhaps this hels a bit http://localhost.ruhr.de/~stefan/acerTM292/
[05:44] <brenner> graabein: actually, it was xlassie...haven't read the forum thread
[05:44] <roby> HI
[05:44] <graabein> oh...
[05:44] <roby> I'm tring to install acerhk on my ubuntu box
[05:44] <Sephy|X> Lesse....
[05:44] <roby> But it does not work!!
[05:45] <elmago> so can someone tell me why i get permission denied ?
[05:45] <elmago> /dev/hda5 /media/daten          ext3    defaults         0      0
[05:45] <roby> Is there anybidy that have a solotion??
[05:45] <graabein> guess ill just post my error msgs to the thread then
[05:45] <elmago> thats my fstab
[05:45] <brenner> graabein: good idea
[05:45] <Sephy|X> I've installed pcmcia-cs and I didn't get any error
[05:46] <brenner> elmago: probably the 'defaults' ... need to change it
[05:46] <abarbaccia> nmoore, i had an option "dpms" line and i just added false to the end - i guess i'll find out after i leave the box alone for a while
[05:46] <lapo> hi
[05:47] <__filip_> if i install an firewall will that be the only thing that block trffic into internet?
[05:47] <Sephy|X> abarbaccia: You didn't have a solution for me?
[05:47] <brenner> roby: acerhk?
[05:47] <elmago> brenner: what do you mean?
[05:48] <abarbaccia> Sephy|X, well, you have to see what chipset the card uses - and then choose the best approach
[05:48] <abarbaccia> or google it and find out how people got it working
[05:48] <elvirolo> hi
[05:48] <abarbaccia> once you know (ndiswrapper, madwifi, etc..) we can proceed from there
[05:48] <brenner> elmago: after the ext3 .... probably need to change it from 'defaults' to something else
[05:48] <Sephy|X> Trust me, I've already spent several hours googling
[05:48] <brenner> umask=000 maybe
[05:48] <roby> Yes!!
[05:48] <elmago> yeah i tried rw,user
[05:48] <roby> acerhk!!
[05:48] <elvirolo> i have a script which optimises the mtu for my eth card ... how do i make it launch at startup?
[05:49] <elmago> but i didnt work
[05:49] <brenner> elmago: what about umask=000 ?
[05:49] <brenner> roby: no, i was asking what it was. :)
[05:49] <abarbaccia> elvirolo, you should put the script in your /etc/init.d directory, make it writeable, then use the command update-rc.d to get it to start at boottime
[05:50] <roby> the kernel driver to enable the extra keys on my acer 1600 laptop!!
[05:50] <elvirolo> abarbaccia: thanks :)
[05:50] <roby> I used that package in debian for a while...
[05:50] <abarbaccia> elvirolo, or if you want it to start when you log in (maybe an easier option) you cna do it through a gui in ubuntu
[05:50] <brenner> roby: oh ... have you searched the forum/wiki?
[05:50] <elmago> ok i try it
[05:51] <Tobsn> do i have to install the GRUB into the MBR?
[05:51] <roby> I've googled it!
[05:51] <roby> But no result at all!
[05:51] <Tobsn> apokryphos
[05:51] <Tobsn> :)
[05:51] <brenner> Tobsn: choose the default option ( i think it is 'yes')
[05:51] <brenner> roby: wiki/forum?
[05:52] <Sephy|X> Tobsn: I would recomend it if you want to use grub as the boot-loader then choose 'Yes'
[05:52] <apokryphos> Tobsn: it's a good idea to do so, yes.
[05:52] <roby> No I have not anyway!!
[05:52] <borfast> guys, doesn't the ubuntu rescue mode have fdisk??
[05:52] <Tobsn> ok thx guys
[05:52] <brenner> roby: wiki.ubuntu.com & ubuntuforus.org
[05:52] <brenner> *ubuntuforums.org
[05:52] <Sephy|X> borfast: cfdisk
[05:52] <__filip_> i have install firestarter now but how can i allow ip to connect to me in it?
[05:52] <Sephy|X> cfdisk hd??
[05:52] <borfast> thanks
[05:53] <borfast> the damn thing has my partitions' order all messed up, I was mounting them thinking they were in the right order but apparently, they are not... I just hope the windows instalation didn't mess tm up... :\
[05:54] <roby> I've just searched in the wiki... but nope!!
[05:54] <anticop> how can I install kernel source for ubuntu (offline) ??
[05:54] <c0rrupt_> what do i need to install for java
[05:54] <brenner> roby: now search the forum
[05:54] <brenner> !java
[05:54] <ubotu> somebody said java was to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:55] <apollo13> hi there, i am currently downloading the iso and i have one little question ( its the first time using ab debian like system) : will packages (or better sofware like vmware etc.), which are abvailable for debian, run on ubuntu??
[05:55] <brenner> anticop: you mean you have no net access?
[05:55] <anticop> yeah
[05:56] <brenner> apollo13: afaik, it's a bad idea to mix the two
[05:56] <brenner> anticop: what kernel you running?
[05:56] <apollo13> why?
[05:56] <anticop> 2.6.10
[05:56] <HiddenWolf> apollo13, debian is not ubuntu, they use different compiles and setups
[05:57] <brenner> anticop: you want the linux-source-2.6.10 package then
[05:57] <anticop> yeah
[05:57] <HiddenWolf> apollo13, using packages from debian on ubuntu or vice-versa is unrecommended, and might break your system. Then again, It might not.
[05:57] <brenner> anticop: look for here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/
[05:58] <brenner> anticop: download the deb file, then 'dpkg -i <debfile>'  to install it
[05:58] <apollo13> so everything i need is availaible fpr ubuntu??
[05:58] <brenner> apollo13: depends on what you need
[05:58] <brenner> packages.ubuntu.com
[05:58] <apollo13> mware fpr example or things like lime wire
[05:58] <apollo13> vmware :)
[05:58] <apollo13> ok, ill take a look
[05:58] <anticop> brenner: what .deb file ???
[05:59] <brenner> anticop: linux-source-2.6.10
[05:59] <brenner> pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10/linux-source-2.6.10_2.6.10-34_all.deb
[05:59] <brenner> from my apt-cache entry
[05:59] <apollo13> what means : warty hoary breezy?? or which is the right one for me
[06:00] <pirast> it's hoary
[06:00] <anticop> brenner: Does that archive on UBUNTU disc???
[06:00] <pulp>  cioa ... i have a question... i installed rar .. but some how i still can t open rar files???
[06:00] <brenner> anticop: not afaik
[06:00] <apollo13> pirast: where are the differeneces?
[06:01] <apollo13> warty was the first or??
[06:01] <pulp>  i think there is a special folder to place in a special directory but i don t remeber
[06:01] <anticop> brenner: WHAT?
[06:01] <brenner> anticop: not as far as i know
[06:01] <brenner> anticop: oh, sorry
[06:01] <pulp> what could be the problem
[06:01] <anticop> but i have found "linux-source" folder
[06:01] <pulp> ?
[06:01] <brenner> anticop: like i said, go here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/
[06:01] <pirast> apollo13: Warty is the old release, Hoary is the stable relese, Breezy is the next release
[06:02] <apollo13> okay
[06:02] <brenner> then browse the directories
[06:02] <pirast> But Breezy is unstable so use Hoary..
[06:02] <pirast> Breezy will be released in October
[06:02] <brenner> anticop: l/linux-source-2.6.10/linux-source-2.6.10_2.6.10-34_all.de
[06:02] <c0rrupt_> !java
[06:02] <ubotu> well, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:02] <pulp>  cioa ... i have a question... i installed rar .. but some how i still can t open rar files???
[06:03] <brenner> pulp: install unrar
[06:03] <pulp> ok
[06:03] <pulp> :)
[06:03] <apollo13> i have an running suse 9.3 and windows xp prof, will ubuntu configure a new bootloader including all three, yes or??
[06:03] <pulp> thanks
[06:03] <brenner> pulp: thank me when it works
[06:03] <Sephy|X> apollo13: Yes, most probably
[06:03] <Sephy|X> It will list all the os' it finds at the end of the installation
[06:04] <apollo13> okay this is enough, in 1:52 i'll have ubuntu
[06:04] <c0rrupt_> what is the hoary-extras link
[06:04] <pulp> that s why i thank you
[06:04] <pulp> brenner
[06:04] <pulp> ubuntu is real fast
[06:04] <pulp> :)
[06:04] <apollo13> bye
[06:05] <c0rrupt_> !repos
[06:05] <ubotu> repos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:06] <roby> Ok! There are few thread that match my query!!
[06:06] <roby> Thanks!!
[06:06] <roby> If i'll ahve problem... i'll contact you later!!
[06:10] <pmazer> anyone know how to turn a linux box into basically an airport express? i want my friend to be able to play his music from itunes via my speakers
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> there is an itunes server program out for linux.
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> heard about it from some other mini-disrto-hacking site.
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> but i never used it. cant even rember its name.
[06:12] <puff> Afternoon.
[06:12] <puff> So, I'm still trying to sort out my wireless problems.
[06:13] <puff> My device manager shows the built-in Intel wireless card (PCI PRO/Wireless 2200BG) but it doesn't show up in ifconfig, nor in the Network Settings GUI.
[06:13] <Gnonthgol> puff: You dont have drivers
[06:14] <puff> http://pastebin.com/349245
[06:14] <puff> Gnonthgol: Odd... it worked before.
[06:14] <pmazer> Dr_Willis, i think what you're thinking of goes the opposite way than i want
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> pmazer,  you want the linux box to play tunes from his server?
[06:15] <Tobsn> hmm can i mount my XP partition in ubuntu?
[06:15] <pmazer> Dr_Willis, yeah
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> pmazer,  no clue where then. :P
[06:15] <brenner> !ntfs
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> http://www.mt-daapd.org/  - is the itunes server for linux.   :) not sure if xmms or mplayer can play them however
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> Tobsn,  yes you can.
[06:16] <brenner> ubotu: tell Tobsn about ntfs
[06:16] <brenner> Tobsn: install go ok?
[06:16] <Gnonthgol> !ntfs
[06:16] <deFrysk> ! ntfs
[06:16] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[06:16] <deFrysk> ;)
[06:16] <brenner> Gnonthgol: *chuckle* now you know why i did the second trigger
[06:17] <Gnonthgol> Thanks ubotu
[06:17] <brenner> smartalec
[06:18] <deFrysk> ! slap brenner
[06:18] <ubotu> deFrysk: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:18] <deFrysk> darn
[06:18] <puff> Gnonthgol: So, assuming something torched the drivers... what do I do next?
[06:18] <deFrysk> :s
[06:18] <puff> Gnonthgol: Is there a tool for figuring out and finding the drivers?  Or do I have to figure out the right apt package and install that?
[06:18] <brenner> deFrysk: that's what you get :P
[06:18] <roby> exit
[06:18] <deFrysk> brenner, :x
[06:20] <Gnonthgol> puff: you have to find a driver for Linux or use a windows driver with ndiswrapper
[06:21] <Gnonthgol> !ndiswrapper
[06:21] <ubotu> from memory, ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[06:21] <puff> Gnonthgol: Well, since it did actually work out of the box with a vanilla ubuntu install, I suspect the "normal" drivers should work fine.
[06:21] <puff> Not sure where they went, mind you :-).
[06:21] <Gnonthgol> ok
[06:22] <Sephy|X> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted <-- What the fudge?
[06:22] <puff> So, dredging up my limited memories of how the linux kernel works, it's possible, I guess, that the wireless modules somehow got unloaded.
[06:22] <puff> Or didn't get loaded properly when it restarted.
[06:22] <NoUse> Sephy|X are you root?
[06:22] <Sephy|X> sudo
[06:23] <uraa> brenner: i'm anticop , can u pls give me that link again?
[06:23] <tcm> hello all
[06:23] <Sephy|X> NoUse: I even get it when I use the root terminal
[06:23] <brenner> uraa: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10/linux-source-2.6.10_2.6.10-34_all.de
[06:24] <brenner> uraa: whoops, should be a 'b' on the end of that
[06:24] <tcm> i just install ubuntu and i have a problem with amsn 0.95. When i lauch i'm an error as occured : "Error in startup script: can't use empty string as operand of "|"" do you have any idea ?
[06:24] <puff> Is there a good tutorial on this sort of thing anywhere?
[06:25] <Tobsn> hmm does someone know a good c or cpp editor/compiler for ubuntu?
[06:25] <puff> (i.e. basic commands for troubleshooting drivers and kernel module loading, etc)?
[06:25] <puff> Tobsn: Emacs?
[06:25] <uraa> brenner: i don't understand
[06:25] <puff> Tobsn: Eclipse probably runs on ubuntu.
[06:25] <brenner> uraa: neither do i... wasn't that what you wanted?
[06:25] <Tobsn> hmm and simpler?
[06:25] <puff> Though I've never used it for C, it has modes for it.
[06:26] <brenner> Tobsn: i suppose you mean a GUI app?
[06:26] <uraa> brenner: yes but i lost that link
[06:26] <uraa> pls give me again
[06:26] <uraa> that link
[06:26] <Tobsn> yes a gui
[06:26] <Tobsn> but just type and click compile ;)
[06:26] <brenner> Tobsn: did the install go ok?
[06:26] <tcm> any idea for amsn ? :(
[06:26] <brenner> uraa: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10/linux-source-2.6.10_2.6.10-34_all.deb
[06:26] <Tobsn> yes install goes fine :)
[06:26] <brenner> tcm: how'd you install it?
[06:26] <Tobsn> thanks for the help :)
[06:27] <tcm> brenner: i want to install amsn0.95b for use the webcam, but i can't lauch him before or after compil
[06:28] <brenner> tcm: install via the repo...easier
[06:28] <Gnonthgol> I have had a bit problem with my sound in 5.04 but found out today that all input on my mic. is going out on the speekers. Does that mean that I got the drivers?
[06:28] <tcm> brenner: it's the beta of amsn
[06:28] <brenner> tcm: oh, ok.
[06:28] <chumphries> thanks for ubuntu, it is very much what I was looking for to solve the frustrations of debian lately
[06:29] <Daywalker> hi
[06:29] <Tobsn> hmm no compiler?
[06:29] <uraa> hi, lisi!
[06:29] <brenner> Tobsn: most of us use a console-based editor and gcc/g++
[06:29] <brenner> Tobsn: google for IDEs and then install one you like via synaptic
[06:29] <brenner> or apt-get/aptitude
[06:30] <Gnonthgol> I have had a bit problem with my sound in 5.04 but found out today that all input on my mic. is going out on the speekers. Does that mean that I got the drivers?
[06:30] <brenner> chumphries: good to hear :)
[06:30] <Daywalker> just a question, why does synaptic tell me that it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop whenever I install some gnome-like apps?
[06:30] <Belutz> !tell belutz about sound
[06:30] <Gnonthgol> !sound
[06:30] <ubotu> [sound]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[06:30] <brenner> !ubuntu-desktop
[06:30] <ubotu> well, ubuntu-desktop is A metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when ugprading
[06:30] <brenner> Daywalker: ^^^
[06:30] <Gnonthgol> ubotu: thanks
[06:30] <ubotu> de rien, Gnonthgol
[06:30] <Concord_Dawn> Daywalker, ubuntu-desktop is a dummy package. All it does is bring install the default packages
[06:30] <Daywalker> ubotu, thanks
[06:30] <Daywalker> :)
[06:30] <Belutz> !artsd
[06:30] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Belutz
[06:30] <Tobsn> hmm after the install process, whats the root password for ubuntu?
[06:31] <brenner> Tobsn: there is none
[06:31] <brenner> !root
[06:31] <ubotu> it has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:31] <Concord_Dawn> ubotu: tell Tobsn about root
[06:31] <Daywalker> thanx god I never had the problem on my home pc but on my laptop ;)
[06:31] <Tobsn> h?
[06:31] <chumphries> much of this stuff is in the wiki
[06:31] <[t0rc] > I've got a .deb on my desktop. How do i install it (when I double-click it, it opens the archive manager...)?
[06:31] <Tobsn> ok than is the default created user the root or?
[06:31] <brenner> [t0rc] : what is it?
[06:31] <Concord_Dawn> Tobsn, the default created user is not root
[06:31] <topyli> wow, this time i was not redirected to #ubuntu-unregged. there has apparently been a solution
[06:31] <Concord_Dawn> root is root, the user you created during install is another user.
[06:31] <brenner> topyli: do tell. :)
[06:31] <recover> In gnome, when you press the "connect to server" in the places menu. You can't specify the domain when you choose a windows share, that's odd, I must supply domain information to be able to login to this computer. it doesn't prompt for it when you try to connect with this afterwards
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> topyli,  i noticed that also.
[06:32] <Tobsn> hmm and how to execute winmac_fstab?
[06:32] <Concord_Dawn> topyli, it's because the +rf #ubuntu-unregged chanmodes have been removed.
[06:32] <Tobsn> the readme says it needs root
[06:32] <chumphries> sudo
[06:32] <Concord_Dawn> erm
[06:32] <Concord_Dawn> sudo
[06:32] <chumphries> it is in the wiki link, read it :)
[06:32] <chumphries> explains everything
[06:32] <topyli> brenner: for me: leave work, log off on your way out. go home, log in to freenode :)
[06:32] <brenner> Tobsn: the readme doesn't say that!
[06:33] <[t0rc] > brenner: i've got like blender, fluxbox, scons, a few other things.
[06:33] <brenner> partly 'cos there is no readme afaik
[06:33] <Tobsn> # Root check
[06:33] <Tobsn> if [[ $UID != 0 ] ] ; then
[06:33] <Tobsn> echo 'Tou should run this program as root or using sudo'
[06:33] <Tobsn> exit 1
[06:33] <Tobsn> fi
[06:33] <chumphries> or using sudo
[06:33] <Tobsn> arg
[06:33] <Tobsn> ok
[06:33] <brenner> [t0rc] : best to install via the repos
[06:33] <brenner> if you can
[06:33] <chumphries> Tobsn: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:33] <brenner> topyli: pfft ... here i was thinking you were hot stuff
[06:33] <brenner> working out the fix and all
[06:34] <[t0rc] > brenner: heh. Well i would've if I could. but how would i do it this way (i'm used to rpm's and FC, where you just 2c it and it installs...)
[06:34] <topyli> brenner: hey, i had to work too :)
[06:34] <brenner> Tobsn: Instructions for use:
[06:34] <brenner> Tobsn: why are you reading the code? :)
[06:34] <brenner> Tobsn: just read the instructions in the box!
[06:34] <chumphries> :)
[06:35] <brenner> [t0rc] : apt-get/synaptic will take care of dependencies
[06:35] <Tobsn> ;)
[06:35] <brenner> [t0rc] : the way you're doing it won't.
[06:35] <Tobsn> i like code.
[06:35] <Tobsn> hehe
[06:35] <brenner> [t0rc] : and you should really avoid getting debs from who knows where ... use the ubuntu repos!
[06:35] <wijnand> can anyone tell me how i can use gutenprint (instead of the older gimp-print) in ubuntu? i want to buy a printer that wasn't supported until very recently
[06:35] <brenner> !synaptic
[06:35] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[06:36] <[t0rc] > brenner: I'll get the dependencies myself, and I've been downloading them from the repos. on a windows rig. the lin isn't online.
[06:36] <brenner> [t0rc] : ah, well that's sane then. :)
[06:37] <brenner> [t0rc] : dpkg -i <deb file>
[06:37] <brenner> to install a local deb file
[06:37] <brenner> you might want to look at apt-zip as well
[06:37] <brenner> someone recommended that for people in your situation
[06:37] <brenner> i.e. no net access
[06:37] <Viziri> I'm having a nightmare getting citrix ICA client to work. Whenever I try to connect the little box comes up but it just hangs... never connects :(
[06:38] <[t0rc] > brenner: Alright, thnx. heh, I'd use the repos if I could, but not possible right now. :(.
[06:38] <[t0rc] > later
[06:39] <aftertaf> help: how can i tell if my adsl is pppoe or pppoa ??
[06:39] <pirast> !tell adsl
[06:40] <pirast> !tell about adsl
[06:40] <aftertaf> !adsl
[06:40] <ubotu> aftertaf: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[06:40] <pirast> -.-
[06:40] <aftertaf> :/
[06:40] <CarlFK> heh
[06:40] <pirast> ill add it later
[06:40] <aftertaf> you know then?? :)
[06:40] <CarlFK> aftertaf - sbc dsl by chance?  (I am about to deal with that in a day or 2)
[06:41] <pirast> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[06:41] <CarlFK> current project is getting dial up to play nice with users
[06:41] <pirast> ubotu adsl is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[06:41] <ubotu> pirast: okay
[06:41] <pirast> !adsk
[06:41] <ubotu> Wish i knew, pirast
[06:41] <mgbaron> anyone have any suggestions for the easiest way to restart apache?
[06:41] <pirast> !adsl
[06:41] <ubotu> adsl is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[06:41] <pirast> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[06:41] <aftertaf> hehe
[06:41] <andre_m> hi. how to copy an audio cd on the shell? making an .iso with http://ubuntuguide.org/#createisofromcddvd doesn't work..
[06:41] <brenner> pirast: adding a small explanation would be nice as well :)
[06:41] <aftertaf> i'm on usb modem, not ethernet.. does that change anything?
[06:42] <chumphries> andre_m: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=cd.iso ?
[06:42] <Tobsn> hmm
[06:42] <andre_m> chumphries: that's what the link sais. returns "0 bytes transferred in 0.258006 seconds (0 bytes/sec)"
[06:42] <CarlFK> chumphries - that only works for data cd's - really bad idea for audio
[06:42] <Tobsn> but it doesnt connect to my wireless router :(
[06:42] <chumphries> CarlFK: oh ok
[06:42] <Tobsn> do have to change some setting to connect to my wireless router?
[06:43] <CarlFK> chumphries and andre_m - http://www.xiph.org/paranoia
[06:43] <aftertaf> anyone??
[06:44] <CarlFK> some good explanations on how CD audio works
[06:44] <aftertaf> i've run pppoeconf and it finds eth0, but my modem is usb.
[06:44] <pirast> ubotu wlan-ng is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToInstallTheWlanNgDriverInHoary
[06:44] <ubotu> okay, pirast
[06:44] <chumphries> I just rip my cds to mp3 and burn to cd :)
[06:44] <chumphries> Think I have the unscratched cd collection on the planet ;)
[06:45] <CarlFK> chumphries - what do you use to rip?
[06:45] <aftertaf> does that mean i'm on pppoa?
[06:45] <jatos> hello
[06:45] <chumphries> CarlFK: grip
[06:45] <CarlFK> chumphries - grip uses cdparanoia ;)
[06:45] <jatos> does anyone know a way of recovering data of a hard disk that has been partially wipped
[06:45] <brenner> ubotu: adsl is Setting up an ADSL PPPoE Connection? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[06:45] <ubotu> ...but adsl is already something else...
[06:46] <chumphries> CarlFK: i am aware
[06:46] <jatos> this is a reiser fs I need to recover
[06:46] <brenner> ubotu: forget adsl
[06:46] <ubotu> brenner: i forgot adsl
[06:46] <brenner> ubotu: adsl is Setting up an ADSL PPPoE Connection? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[06:46] <pirast> hmpf..
[06:46] <pirast> works forget adsl?
[06:46] <brenner> yes, time-delay though ... waiting
[06:46] <brenner> ubotu: adsl is Setting up an ADSL PPPoE Connection? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[06:46] <ubotu> okay, brenner
[06:46] <bozoguy> hi
[06:47] <pirast> ahh nice
[06:47] <bozoguy> i reinstalle dmy windows and it erased my mbr, how do i recover grub boot?
[06:47] <jatos> anyone?
[06:47] <brenner> !grub
[06:47] <ubotu> [grub]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:47] <chumphries> bozoguy: grub-install (hd0) ?
[06:47] <chumphries> oh nice
[06:47] <brenner> bozoguy: see ubotu's 2nd link
[06:48] <CarlFK> bozoguy - live CD, run grub, install a new grup boot loader
[06:48] <Gnonthgol> !grub
[06:48] <mrson> hola a todos.........
[06:48] <pirast> ubotu is so nice
[06:48] <ubotu> pirast: Are you smoking crack?
[06:48] <pirast> lol
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> ubotu needs to be a little more specific in its error messages.
[06:48] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Dr_Willis
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:48] <brenner> pirast: not so nice after all. :D
[06:48] <topyli> a bot knows when humans are not completely honest with them :)
[06:49] <Tobsn> pirast, i have a intel pro/wireless lan 2100 3B Mini PCI
[06:49] <brenner> Dr_Willis: that was specific. :D
[06:49] <Tobsn> its integrated...
[06:49] <brenner> Dr_Willis: gave you the line number and everything. :)
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> brenner,  also randomly generated it seems :P
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> ubotu needs our love
[06:49] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Dr_Willis
[06:49] <jhaa> :D
[06:50] <Gnonthgol> ubotu is our friend
[06:50] <ubotu> Gnonthgol: I don't know
[06:50] <Gnonthgol> lol
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> ubotu needs a spanking.
[06:50] <ubotu> Not a clue, Dr_Willis
[06:50] <brenner> what accent is that meant to be anyway?
[06:50] <topyli> no guys, he's the most coherent one here
[06:50] <topyli> !ubotu
[06:50] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:50] <pirast> ubotu ubotu is our friend is wargh!
[06:50] <ubotu> ...but ubotu is already something else...
[06:50] <topyli> ok ok
[06:50] <pirast> hmmm
[06:50] <chumphries> hrm, public forget?
[06:51] <aftertaf> ok ok... so how do i use pppoeconf, like the wiki says, if it only finds an ethernet card?
[06:51] <Gnonthgol> ubotu tell ubotu about ubotu
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Gnonthgol,  you proberly just crashed the thing with it msging itself all day now.
[06:51] <topyli> i think you killed it
[06:51] <pirast> aftertat: is your modem connected via usb?
[06:51] <Gnonthgol> ubotu tell ubotu about ubotu
[06:51] <jhaa> haha
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> !seen elvis
[06:51] <ubotu> Dr_Willis: i haven't seen 'elvis'
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:52] <Gnonthgol> (18:51:57) ubotu: Someone already said that 29 seconds ago
[06:52] <brenner> it's still alive
[06:52] <barongas> Anyone know if I can tell firefox to download .gz files instead of trying to open them? Annoying with big disc images.
[06:52] <chumphries> ubotu forget ubotu
[06:52] <ubotu> i forgot ubotu, chumphries
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> i just rightclick and use save as.. its often the servers 'problem' that firefox tries to read them.
[06:52] <Gnonthgol> !ubotu
[06:52] <ubotu> Gnonthgol: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:52] <barongas> Dr_Willis Yeah the problem is that it's a button, not a link.
[06:53] <barongas> Dr_Willis The site has passwords so wget wont work
[06:53] <chumphries> curl++
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> definiatly a server-stupidity issue sounds like. :(
[06:53] <barongas> Dr_Willis And lynx can't get through the passwords either :(
[06:53] <aftertaf> pirast: yep. speedtouch usb.
[06:53] <KWizzard> pls, where can I get Tahoma font for XWindows?
[06:53] <brenner> so who made ubotu forget himself?  you're in trouble...
[06:54] <chumphries> i did, was just testing if it worked
[06:54] <aftertaf> it did!
[06:54] <chumphries> can add it back
[06:54] <masterLoki> hi there as for right now I'm dual boot XP/Fedora 'cause Ubuntu 5.04 didn't support my CMI9761A audio chiset
[06:54] <masterLoki> the question is
[06:54] <pirast> aftertaf: Do you live in the UK?
[06:54] <brenner> chumphries: do so please :)
[06:54] <Gnonthgol> ubotu ubotu is Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:54] <ubotu> okay, Gnonthgol
[06:54] <masterLoki> if I install & upgrade will alsa recognize my chipset
[06:55] <Gnonthgol> ubotu forget azureuz
[06:55] <ubotu> i forgot azureuz, Gnonthgol
[06:55] <EasterSunshine> can anyone give me information about working an hp laserjet 1200 printer?
[06:55] <masterLoki> my PC was just updated with new hardware and ubutu didn't cath all the updates
[06:55] <chumphries> !ubutu
[06:55] <ubotu> chumphries: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:55] <masterLoki> !ubuntu
[06:55] <ubotu> [ubuntu]  an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[06:55] <pirast> --> aftertaf: Do you live in the UK?
[06:56] <masterLoki> !awards
[06:56] <ubotu> I guess awards is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks
[06:56] <masterLoki> !awards
[06:56] <brenner> if you want to play with ubotu, pls use /msg
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> masterLoki,  most of the time sound issues under linxu are rather trivial config issues..  - since your sound dows work under Fedora - it does have linux support.. so  it may be an alsa issue that made it not work befor.. or a slightly out of date kernel. or just a trivial file/config change.
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> !sound
[06:56] <ubotu> I heard sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[06:56] <chumphries> !ubotu
[06:56] <ubotu> it has been said that ubotu is Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:57] <pirast> pls use msg -.-
[06:58] <masterLoki> That's exactly what i tought but after spending a whole weekend on #alsa to get sound I installed KDE and when I uninstalled I lost sound
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> why bother uninstalling. :P
[06:58] <masterLoki> I didn't like KDE so I kept Gnome
[06:59] <masterLoki> and I'm still Gnome
[06:59] <Sephy|X> Does anyone know a funky way to make fc2 drivers work in ubuntu?
[06:59] <masterLoki> Sepht|X: recompile them
[07:00] <Blissex> masterLoki: troubleshooting section of http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2
[07:00] <pirast> ubotu speedtouch usb modem is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKSpeedtouchDSLHowTo | The article is for the UK only, I don't know if it works in other countries.
[07:00] <ubotu> okay, pirast
[07:00] <Sephy|X> masterLoki: Thanks, you just made me understand what my mom feels like when I tell her to google stuff
[07:01] <Sephy|X> =P
[07:01] <masterLoki> Sepht|X: That's why I'm here for!!
[07:01] <masterLoki> Sepht|X: You can try to see if there are references in the source code that you can fix
[07:02] <Sephy|X> Can you give me a hint of what I should do to recompile it? Edit the makefile or something like that?
[07:02] <masterLoki> Sepht|X: And the compile
[07:02] <gbetto> hola algun chat en espaol
[07:02] <pirast> ubotu forget speedtouch usb modem
[07:02] <ubotu> pirast: i forgot speedtouch usb modem
[07:02] <topyli> what are "fc2" drivers and how do you instadd drivers "funkily"?
[07:02] <EasterSunshine> !sp
[07:02] <ubotu> EasterSunshine: I don't know
[07:02] <beh> anyone know of a guide on howto setup a solid ubuntu server (web / ssh / dns )?
[07:02] <Daywalker_> .
[07:02] <masterLoki> Sepht|X: Yes if got binary files, you should try to get the source instead
[07:02] <CarlFK> beh - boot CD, do a "server" insatll.
[07:02] <EasterSunshine> beh, do a server install of ubuntu, then sudo apt-get install apache2 openssh-server bind
[07:03] <Weevil_Working> thats what i am looking for. is it a good distro for webservers?
[07:03] <topyli> beh: just like debian
[07:03] <Sephy|X> What would the sourcefile be named?
[07:03] <pirast> ubotu speedtouch 330 usb modem is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKSpeedtouchDSLHowTo The article is for the UK only and for the Speedtouch 330 USB modem only. Maybe it works in other countries.
[07:03] <ubotu> pirast: okay
[07:03] <brenner> gbetto:
[07:03] <brenner> !es
[07:03] <EasterSunshine> woo my printer actually works, thx guys
[07:03] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:03] <EasterSunshine> even though no one hlped me...
[07:03] <Baskerville> I am having problems with my sound card. Crimsun helped me, but sometimes I have sound on my laptop, but sometimes I don't...
[07:03] <Sephy|X> EasterSunshine: No problem
[07:03] <EasterSunshine> later
[07:04] <Pickle_Weasel> can i take credit for making it work? ^.^
[07:04] <Baskerville> Can someone help me?
[07:04] <Baskerville> I am having problems with my sound card. Crimsun helped me, but sometimes I have sound on my laptop, but sometimes I don't...
[07:04] <Baskerville> Can someone help me?
[07:04] <chrismy> hi all. i have 2 HDD. I first installed Winxp on the primary master HDD then installed ubuntu on secondary master. Now i have to set to the first HDD inorder to boot Linux but never again can I boot windows. what should i do?
[07:04] <Pickle_Weasel> woo! \o/
[07:04] <masterLoki> Sepht|X: you should take a look in the makefile and see if you got everything you need
[07:04] <topyli> pirast: nobody will remeber those keywords you're teaching to the bot :)
[07:04] <Sephy|X> Ok, thx
[07:04] <Weevil_Working> try reinstalling windows.
[07:04] <brenner> Baskerville: if crimusn couldn't fix it .. i doubt these buggers would be able to :-/
[07:05] <Baskerville> brenner: It did, but than he exited...
[07:05] <pirast> topyli: Right :-) Should I delete it?
[07:05] <Blissex> chrismy: revise your GRUB or LILO config.
[07:05] <Sephy|X> insmod: error inserting '8180_26_private.ko': -1 Invalid module format <-- could it be the .ko filetype?
[07:05] <Baskerville> I think he couldn't finish...
[07:05] <hno> i tried to burn CD/DVD in nautilus but my burner is not listed ??? can anyone help me ???
[07:05] <Baskerville> ... helping me
[07:05] <chrismy> Weevil_Working, will Windows take over linux? which mean the result will be reversed of booting windows but not linux
[07:05] <topyli> pirast: dunno, it's no real harm i think
[07:05] <Baskerville> Right now I have sound
[07:05] <pirast> k
[07:05] <Baskerville> But the next time I start, maybe I won't
[07:05] <brenner> Baskerville: ok...
[07:05] <Blissex> chrismy: it is pretty easy to configure GRUB or LILO to  boot MS Windows from its paretition on 'hda' and GNU Linux from 'hdc'.
[07:05] <Weevil_Working> no clue, im a noob, but thats what i would do.
[07:05] <brenner> Baskerville: do you get system sounds?
[07:06] <samu2> how do i make this find work?
[07:06] <chrismy> Blissex, how do i revise Grub? I have seen it but no windows boot record there
[07:06] <samu2> i tried find usr perl for example
[07:06] <topyli> pirast: pelple can look at the list of keywoards if they like, and they'll go, wow, someone has put in a factoid about my exact hardware :)
[07:06] <Baskerville> brenner: Yes, right now I have everything
[07:06] <Weevil_Working> so wait, you have two hard drives? or just 1 hard drive partitioned?
[07:06] <chrismy> Blissex, would you mind guiding me to do it?
[07:06] <chrismy> :(
[07:06] <nessmuk> my Linux-guru buddy says that on a recent install of Ubuntu he was surprised to see konqueror and kmail in the first round of the install. Can someone tell me how/why/when this happens by itself?
[07:06] <brenner> Baskerville: what about when you lose sound?
[07:06] <Blissex> chrismy: without being there is practically impossible...
[07:06] <chrismy> Blissex, well
[07:07] <Blissex> chrismy: however, first describe your current situation...
[07:07] <Blissex> chrismy: like: what are you able to do right now?
[07:07] <Baskerville> brenner: Nothing. It tells me that there is no sound device and to execute "esd" in a console
[07:07] <chrismy> Blissex, ok
[07:07] <Baskerville> The sound icon has a red "X" over it
[07:07] <brenner> Baskerville: and you do so?
[07:07] <hno> where can i tell nautilus what device to use for burning?
[07:07] <borfast> guys, this is more an fdisk question than an Ubuntu one but what do the '+' next to the"Blocks" column in fdisk mean?
[07:07] <brenner> Baskerville: did you execute esd?
[07:08] <Baskerville> brenner: yes, and it tells me that there is no such directory (dev/dsp)
[07:08] <topyli> hno: when you choose "burn", the dialog should have a drop-down menu of devices
[07:08] <Blissex> borfast: something very strange that you should not worry about -- basically that the partition is not a whole multiple of the blocksize.
[07:08] <borfast> * next to the "Blocks" column elements...
[07:08] <beh> anyone know how to setup apache with suexec?
[07:08] <borfast> oh, ok
[07:08] <Blissex> chrismy: what can you boot right?
[07:08] <borfast> thanks :)
[07:08] <Blissex> chrismy: what can you boot right now?
[07:09] <masterLoki> Sepht|X: Which driver are you tring to install??
[07:09] <hno> topyli: in this menue is only Image-writer listed
[07:09] <brenner> Baskerville: like i said ... pretty much no sound gurus in here except for crimsun... you can try this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/    but i'd keep droppign by in here to see if he's active
[07:09] <Baskerville> brenner: Thanks!
[07:09] <lapo> hno, check if your user is in cdron group
[07:10] <topyli> hno: oh, if you should have more devices but don't, then something else is broken, not nautilus
[07:10] <hno> topyli: i will check this thx.
[07:10] <chrismy> Blissex, earlier, i have already had linux but reinstalled windows for some bloody reasons. but then windows took over linux(boot) so i can't boot into linux nor i have a choice to boot. after getting ideas from people, i did by using 2 HDD. first installed windows on the first HDD then installed linux on the second HDD. this time, i have to set(BIOS) to boot on the first HDD to start linux but no choice of going back to windows.
[07:10] <Gnonthgol> I got ubotu remember itself again
[07:11] <chrismy> Blissex, oops earlier i have dual boot OS in the same HDD
[07:11] <Gnonthgol> ubotu what is ubotu
[07:11] <ubotu> Gnonthgol: what are you talking about?
[07:11] <masterLoki> Sepht|X: You can try this http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=15340
[07:11] <topyli> heh
[07:11] <chrismy> Blissex, now i have 2 HDD. one for each OS :D
[07:11] <Gnonthgol> ! ubotu
[07:11] <ubotu> from memory, ubotu is Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:11] <brenner> Gnonthgol: i saw ...thanks
[07:11] <chumphries> i had that already :)
[07:11] <albacker> chismy you can configure the windows boot manager. so you add another entry for linux.
[07:12] <chrismy> albacker, truly i do not know how to do it
[07:12] <Blissex> chrismy: the only decent way to get out of your mess is to make sure that the BIOS is set to leave things as they are.
[07:12] <Blissex> chrismy: almost surely you have installed the GNU/Linux boot manager onto the first disk. That's perfectly fine.
[07:12] <chrismy> Blissex, yes but it won't boot into windows
[07:12] <Gnonthgol> ! ubotu
[07:12] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:12] <Gnonthgol> I did it
[07:12] <albacker> chrismy, neither do i. but that can be done. chrismy  or get a live cd. boot in it. edit grub or with fdisk. set the linux partition as bootable and the windows one no..
[07:13] <hno>  topyli: it works with nero ???
[07:13] <Blissex> chrismy: it is extraordinarily easy to add the MS Windows partition to the GNU/Linux boot manager, whatever it is.
[07:13] <brenner> Gnonthgol: yes, we know...now stop flooding pls
[07:13] <chrismy> ok :(
[07:13] <CarlFK> in searching ubuntuforums.org for help setting up a modem connection to the Net - searching for "dialup" gave me 439 hits, skimming them and I don't see anything usefull.  what is a better term to search on?
[07:13] <Blissex> chrismy: there are several utilities to help you do that.
[07:13] <Gnonthgol> ok
[07:13] <lapo> chrismy,  you can try playing around with a grub boot disk, ask google for help
[07:13] <HappyFool> CarlFK: have you looked on the wiki? i think there's a dialup howto there
[07:13] <chrismy> lapo, i had and they are very confusing
[07:14] <Blissex> chrismy: which particular boot program have you installed? GRUB or LILO?
[07:14] <brenner> CarlFK: the wiki
[07:14] <CarlFK> HappyFool - yes, read that HowTo and it doesn't help with my "user" problem
[07:14] <chrismy> Blissex, i have not knowledge but the boot i see i GRUB upon startup
[07:14] <chrismy> *no
[07:14] <Blissex> lapo: he does not need to use a GRUB boot disk -- he can bot into Linux.
[07:14] <HappyFool> CarlFK: what problem is that?
[07:14] <CarlFK> I want a user to be able to connect without using sudo
[07:14] <Blissex> chrismy: xcan you get into GNOME or KDE?
[07:15] <chrismy> lapo, yes i can boot into linux but not windows
[07:15] <lapo> uhm...so what's the problem then? :-)
[07:15] <chrismy> Blissex, how do you mean?
[07:15] <chrismy> Blissex, i am in linux now
[07:15] <lapo> chrismy,  nice
[07:15] <Blissex> chrismy: and is it all nice and windowy?
[07:15] <chrismy> Blissex, ubuntu is naturally gnome
[07:15] <HappyFool> CarlFK: i think that's what the 'dip' group is for; I can do 'pon <myispid>' and i dialup; unfortunately, the modem applet does require a password
[07:15] <aftertaf> kubuntu :)
[07:15] <Blissex> chrismy: some people come here and they have installed Kubuntu...
[07:16] <lapo> chrismy, so explain me you situation, you can boot linux 'cause you have changed the proiority of hdd in bios boot setup
[07:16] <chrismy> Blissex, hmm yes in linux everything is fine. just the problem i can't get the second HDD to boot good ole windows
[07:16] <albacker> chrismy, when bootin in linux. run fdisk and set the linux partition as bootable and set the windows  non-bootable. and configure /boot/grub/menu.lst 'by adding another entry for windows OS..
[07:16] <lapo> right?
[07:16] <HappyFool> CarlFK: a possible solution is to add users to the 'dip' group, and add launchers to start/stop the connection
[07:16] <Blissex> chrismy: OK, now, just start up the little GNOME utility to configure the GRUB boot menu.
[07:16] <brenner> wha't so bad about asking for a pwd?
[07:16] <chrismy> albacker, ahh that sounds professional!
[07:16] <albacker> and than when booting to linux, it asks for your OS. linux or windows !
[07:16] <CarlFK> HappyFool - thanks
[07:16] <chrismy> albacker, erm...but what do i add in to the menu.lst???
[07:17] <chrismy> Blissex, erm....i need to install that utility?
[07:17] <albacker> chrismy, wait
[07:17] <lapo> albacker, it's not that easy, if he changed the boot priority from bios windows will propably get mad at him
[07:17] <chrismy> albacker, ok
[07:17] <HappyFool> CarlFK: cool; i'm just checking up on this dip thing, but i think i'm right
[07:17] <albacker> title Windows 2K/XP/2003 (hda1)
[07:17] <albacker> rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[07:17] <albacker> makeactive
[07:17] <albacker> chainloader +1
[07:17] <albacker> savedefault
[07:17] <Blissex> chrismy: usually not . What you need to add the the 'menu.lst' is two lines saying which partition your MS windows insrtall is in.
[07:17] <HappyFool> CarlFK: oops. i'm guessing the 'dialout' group is more likely
[07:17] <chrismy> albacker, that much???
[07:17] <chrismy> phew
[07:17] <brenner> albacker: DON't paste > 3 lines
[07:17] <albacker> brenner, sorry
[07:18] <Blissex> chrismy: and what albacker write is good
[07:18] <albacker> chrismy, if your wnidows part. is hda1 you have to put hd(0,0)
[07:18] <chrismy> albacker, erm nooooo i have 2 HDD not 1
[07:18] <CarlFK> HappyFool - the box is now at a friends house - in an hour or so I will have one here to play with
[07:18] <albacker> if it is hda2 you have to put hd(o,1)
[07:18] <chrismy> albacker, one for linux and the other for windows
[07:18] <Blissex> chrismy: to figure out which partition contains MS Windows, type 'fdisk -l /dev/hda'
[07:18] <albacker> chrismy, im talking about the windows one.
[07:18] <chrismy> HOLD ON GUYS I AM CONFUSED...one at a time :P
[07:19] <brenner> albacker: np....just know in future, ops will likely kick you if they're feeling grumpy
[07:19] <rolo> How comes that GAIM keeps saying my contacts closed the convo when they don't? Anybody got a clue?
[07:19] <chrismy> let me try the fdisk of Blissex and the commands of albacker :D
[07:19] <albacker> chrismy, are you in linux now ?
[07:19] <Pickle_Weasel> whenever i try to download a package, it tells me "E: Couldn't find package BLAH" why is this?
[07:19] <chrismy> albacker, infact where will i be if i can't boot into windows??? (no offense)
[07:20] <lapo> chrismy, it is not usefull to set the bootable flag the partition is alredy bootable and is on another physical disk
[07:20] <albacker> ah ok..
[07:20] <Blissex> chrismy: 1also look at http://grubconf.sourceforge.net/ for future use
[07:20] <HappyFool> Pickle_Weasel: well, assuming the package is a valid one, you possibly haven't added the network repositories to the systems package search list
[07:20] <chrismy> i am very new to this booting. so i hope you guys won't get mad at me :(
[07:21] <Pickle_Weasel> how would i add the network repositories?
[07:21] <lapo> chrismy, let me understand, you installed windows on hd1, then chaged the boot priorito to hd2 and installed linux there, right?
[07:21] <Viziri> can I install openmotif from synaptic? can't find it- know repositories?
[07:21] <HappyFool> !tell Pickle_Weasel about repos
[07:21] <chrismy> lapo, ok let me repeat...
[07:21] <konra`> I need most all standard video and audio codecs, how do I do this?
[07:21] <HappyFool> Pickle_Weasel: the wiki page ubotu has sent to you should tell you how
[07:21] <Blissex> Viziri: try adding some Debian repository
[07:21] <lapo> uhm...wow I'm a typo factory
[07:21] <Pickle_Weasel> i just don't know what repository to add to be able to download from packages.ubuntu.com
[07:22] <Blissex> Viziri: Ubuntu Hoary and Debian Sarge are almost entirely compatible.
[07:22] <Viziri> ok Blissex
[07:22] <HappyFool> Pickle_Weasel: read the links ubotu has sent to you
[07:22] <Pickle_Weasel> will do
[07:23] <metis> can someone guide me to install realplayer...ive downloaded the bin file to my desktop (logged as root) and i dont know how to run it from terminal...i cant double on as i get an error...ive changed permissions to 755
[07:24] <albacker> chrismy, find in which hda you have installed windows.. find in which hda you have installed linux... run fdisk as root, and set linux partition as bootable. and set the windows one as not.. edit /boot/grub/menu.lst by adding the windows entry ... and configure the windows entry hd(0,X) x should be hdaN-1. if it is hda1 X should ne 0 and if it is 2 X should be 1....
[07:24] <anachronism> hi
[07:24] <HappyFool> CarlFK: ok, it is the 'dip' group; the files in /etc/ppp/peers are in that group; sorry for the back-and-forth. You can also look inside /usr/bin/pon to confirm
[07:24] <anacron> hello
[07:24] <chrismy> lapo, i have 2 IDE HDD. I first installed damn windows on the first one(primary master). then I installed ubuntu on the second HDD(secondary master). the default of BIOS is to boot from the 1st HDD. unfortunately it says no system blah blah blah. so i have to set BIOS to boot on the second HDD. but then ONLY linux (grub) can be seen booting and no futher options to either boot windows or ubuntu
[07:25] <beh> anyone know how to setup apache with suexec?
[07:25] <anacron> has anyone of you installed bf2 and can play it successfully in ubuntu hoary?
[07:25] <chrismy> albacker, hold on slow slow.....i can't go too fast fast :D
[07:25] <albacker> chrismy, hmm you have two hdd's
[07:25] <djfm> hi
[07:26] <chrismy> albacker, precisely
[07:26] <lapo> chrismy, what exactly says, no system or ntdl something missing?
[07:26] <chrismy> lapo, you got it!
[07:26] <anachronism> Excuse me, could anybody tell me why the fonts in gnome-applications look smooth and allright while the fonts in other applications like xmms look all grainy and small? They just look like the "no antialiasing"-preview in the font-configuration of ubuntu
[07:26] <lapo> albacker, two physical disk the bootable flag as no effect
[07:26] <chrismy> lapo, hmm not missing but something not there though....
[07:26] <cemc> anacron: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/suexec.html
[07:26] <lapo> chrismy, well, ok this is the windows boot manager not finding windows files to boot
[07:26] <chrismy> too many suggestions here. so whom do i listen to?
[07:27] <lapo> chrismy, so it actually boot from that device
[07:27] <cemc> anacron: or http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/suexec.html for apache2
[07:27] <chrismy> lapo, so you mean windows is stupid?
[07:27] <chrismy> :P
[07:27] <lapo> chrismy, if you change the priority again what happen?
[07:27] <albacker> damn i get confused from everyone else writting in here @ chrismy lapo
[07:27] <konra`> how can I get most all standard video and audio codecs?
[07:27] <albacker> lapo, if he changes he wont boot in windows..
[07:27] <BrightLight> Hello. Ubuntu installer is unable to find my Slimtype DVDRW (Laptop-Acer TravelMate 4152Lmi). Is there any other way to install Ubuntu ?
[07:28] <lapo> chrismy, nope (well, yes) you changed its disk mapping changing the boot priority
[07:28] <chumphries> konra`: for mplayer? on mplayer's site
[07:28] <chrismy> lapo, hmm told ya :( i have to set to the first HDD in order to boot. Boot here is just linux(in fact linux was installed in the second HDD). by setting the first HDD to boot, notihng will come out
[07:28] <lapo> chrismy, if you change the boot priority again you should be able to boot windows
[07:28] <chrismy> lapo, ok how and guide me step-by-step
[07:29] <lapo> chrismy, uhm....nothing? no error messages?
[07:29] <chrismy> :)
[07:29] <chrismy> lapo, or you want me to log off and come back again? so i know what EXACTLY is says
[07:29] <chrismy> lapo, ok?
[07:29] <konra`> chumphries, the mplayer site is refusing my connection
[07:29] <lapo> chrismy, you have to change the mapping of the disks from the boot manager, I don't know how to do it in grub, let me see
[07:29] <chrismy> albacker, i am confused to , so am i, so am i
[07:30] <chrismy> lapo, ok let me log of and tell you what the heck it says.
[07:30] <chrismy> see ya!
[07:30] <albacker> lapo chrismy  /join #help_chrismy
[07:31] <chumphries> konra`: try a mirror
[07:31] <anacron> cemc, i don't care about apache? I wan't battlefield 2
[07:32] <chumphries> konra`: http://www4.MPlayerHQ.hu
[07:32] <konra`> chumphries, yeah, that's what I did :)
[07:32] <anacron> what about latest steam and hl2? i can't get those work either?
[07:33] <_breed> Has anyone seen (and gotten past) the "Could not set capabilities" problem with ethereal?
[07:34] <aurax> hello
[07:34] <kamikazesponge> i'm used to fedora, that has a /rc.d/init.d/rc.local file (if i recall correctly), is there an alternative for that file in ubuntu?
[07:34] <aurax> can anyone help me with sata raid issues ?
[07:34] <chrismy> back!!!!!!!!!!
[07:34] <aurax> forward!!!!!
[07:34] <aurax> :)
[07:34] <kamikazesponge> rofl
[07:34] <albacker> chrismy, what was there
[07:34] <lapo> chrismy, be wuick my time is running out :-)
[07:34] <chrismy> lapo,  i got it. it says error loading operating system
[07:34] <chrismy> albacker, ahh you are there too
[07:35] <lapo> chrismy, follow my instruction step by step
[07:35] <lapo> k?
[07:35] <cemc> aurax: not sure, but shoot :)
[07:35] <albacker> chrismy, windows error
[07:35] <aurax> oki :)
[07:35] <chrismy> lapo, yes i try , yes albacker thatis the window
[07:35] <aurax> i got 4 80gb's WD
[07:35] <aurax> with Silicon Image 31145
[07:35] <aurax> 3114*
[07:35] <kamikazesponge> cemc: i got the openvpn working under linux with windows clients
[07:35] <aurax> i setted sata raid and the installation see's it as 4 discs
[07:35] <cemc> kamikazesponge: kewl
[07:35] <cemc> kamikazesponge: you have a howto?:)
[07:36] <aurax> i tried software raid but it says that ext3 creation is bad
[07:36] <kamikazesponge> cemc: uhh.. yes, the one on www.openvpn.net :P
[07:36] <kamikazesponge> cemc: the only difference i know of between us is that i compiled it from scratch and you used rpm right?
[07:36] <metis> can anyone help me install the new realplayer?
[07:37] <cemc> aurax: hm... i think you should use soft raid
[07:37] <cemc> aurax: you have some offboard sata controller?
[07:37] <NoUse> metis as in the not the one in hoary-extras?
[07:37] <aurax> also
[07:38] <aurax> i tried it with offboard
[07:38] <kamikazesponge> i'm used to fedora, that has a /rc.d/init.d/rc.local file (if i recall correctly), is there an alternative for that file in ubuntu? anyone?
[07:38] <aurax> and with the 3112 onboard
[07:38] <metis> nouse: there is a new version ...ive downloaded the bin file but dont know the command line to run it....im logged as root
[07:38] <nekohayo> is the ieee1394 kernel module loaded by default?
[07:38] <cemc> aurax: what kind of raid do you want ?
[07:39] <NoUse> metis chmod u+x file.bin
[07:39] <NoUse> ./file.bin
[07:39] <mkoala> hello!
[07:39] <aurax> i thought about raid0 for / and raid1 for /usr
[07:39] <albacker> chrismy, good luck. hope that lapo helps :)
[07:39] <metis> i have to be in the folder right?
[07:39] <anacron> nekohayo, yes i think
[07:39] <NoUse> metis yes
[07:39] <chrismy> albacker, well he is going VERY SOON
[07:39] <aurax> cemc, possible right?
[07:39] <nekohayo> every app I try to use to access raw1394 says I don't have the permission, or that it's possibly not loaded
[07:39] <BrightLight> Hello. Ubuntu installer is unable to find my Slimtype DVDRW (Laptop-Acer TravelMate 4152Lmi). Is there any other way to install Ubuntu ?
[07:39] <mkoala> where is possible to download the kernel source package?
[07:40] <NoUse> !info kernel-source
[07:40] <NoUse> !info linux-source
[07:40] <chrismy> albacker, oops...he has gone
[07:40] <albacker> :S
[07:40] <metis> nouse: i do "ls" but dont know how to get into the desktop folder to run the file
[07:40] <HappyFool> and read the kernelhowto page
[07:40] <HappyFool> !kernelhowto
[07:40] <ubotu> it has been said that kernelhowto is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelHowto
[07:40] <albacker> lapo is italian !! ("Sto andando via")
[07:40] <metis> i see desktop when i do "ls"
[07:40] <chrismy> albacker, would you interpret for me please?
[07:40] <cemc> aurax: raid0, hm?
[07:41] <albacker> chrismy, !?
[07:41] <cemc> aurax: you sure you want that?
[07:41] <chrismy> albacker, oh spaghetti!
[07:41] <chrismy> hehehe
[07:41] <NoUse> metis cd?
[07:41] <Pickle_Weasel> mkoala, it's already in your synaptic manager
[07:41] <metis> cd /desktop?
[07:41] <cemc> aurax: and for / ?
[07:41] <aurax> me, no... thats what's the admin wanted
[07:41] <aurax> lol
[07:41] <Pickle_Weasel> just mark it for installation
[07:41] <cemc> aurax: :)
[07:41] <chrismy> albacker, he was in a rush so i can't follow him quite well.
[07:41] <NoUse> metis take off the slash and remember its case sensative
[07:41] <aurax> i just do what he wants.
[07:41] <aurax> ;)
[07:41] <aurax> but anyway
[07:41] <aurax> after configuring at the card bios
[07:41] <albacker> chrismy,  :S. he might come back...
[07:41] <aurax> i went to ubuntu installation
[07:42] <aurax> and saw 4 drives
[07:42] <chrismy> :( ok
[07:42] <aurax> i was sepose to see 2, 1 of 160 and another one of 80
[07:42] <aurax> that what i was confused about
[07:42] <cemc> aurax: actually i tried raid0 only with windows,
[07:42] <kamikazesponge> i want some programs to run on boot without the whole init script bullshit, is there another way like fedora's rc.local?
[07:42] <cemc> it saw a 160 gb (from 2x80),
[07:42] <cemc> but i didn't try it on linux
[07:43] <albacker> chrismy, im going too. i wish you good luck. bye :)
[07:43] <HappyFool> kamikazesponge: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[07:43] <m1th> anyone here running ubuntu via vmware? :p
[07:43] <chrismy> albacker, sure thanks~
[07:43] <cemc> if i'm not mistaken, you can set up raid on ubuntu install
[07:43] <chrismy> :D
[07:43] <topyli> kamikazesponge: rc.local is an init script, sorry
[07:43] <aurax> cemc, software raid
[07:43] <cemc> yepp
[07:43] <cemc> you tried that ?
[07:43] <kamikazesponge> topyli: maybe, but it worked a lot easyer then a full-fledged init script
[07:44] <kamikazesponge> HappyFool: i'll try
[07:44] <topyli> kamikazesponge: that's what it is. write one for your ubuntu box too
[07:44] <Tadej`Certanc> hello
[07:44] <Tadej`Certanc> what package am I missing?
[07:44] <kamikazesponge> topyli: you mean i can just put a rc.local script in /etc/init.d and it'll execute those commands after everything else has booted?
[07:44] <Tadej`Certanc> checking for gcc... gcc
[07:44] <Tadej`Certanc> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:45] <cemc> aurax: i say you try the soft raif first, see if it works out
[07:45] <thrush> tadej: did you apt-get build-essential?
[07:45] <liquidfire> !mount
[07:45] <ubotu> I heard mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[07:45] <topyli> kamikazesponge: sure. then make a link to it for /etc/rc2.d
[07:46] <liquidfire> !windowsdrives
[07:46] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, totally, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[07:46] <Pickle_Weasel> what's a good mp3 player? xmms freezes whenever i try to play anything
[07:46] <kamikazesponge> topyli: not 3?
[07:46] <aurax> cemc, confused ...
[07:46] <konra`> Pickle_Weasel,  rhythmbox
[07:46] <Pickle_Weasel> is that for gnome?
[07:46] <topyli> kamikazesponge: no, this is debian :)
[07:46] <konra`> Pickle_Weasel, yes
[07:46] <aurax> anyone got sata raid installed?
[07:46] <Pickle_Weasel> ty ^.^
[07:46] <Tadej`Certanc> thrush: E: Invalid operation build-essential
[07:46] <m1th> im trying to dual boot windows/ubuntu on my laptop but ive had a pretty nasty experience trying to get mandrake 10.1 and windowsxp to dual boot on my other machince... the boot loader borkation occured then. im wondering whether there's an easy option to get linux install on an ntfs with windowsxp
[07:46] <konra`> Pickle_Weasel, comes with the default ubuntu configuration
[07:46] <kamikazesponge> topyli: ok, thanks. i know i'm being a pain in the .. well, you know
[07:47] <HappyFool> Tadej`Certanc: try 'apt-get install build-essential'
[07:47] <konra`> m1th, this isn't mandrake is it?
[07:47] <topyli> kamikazesponge: nah, you've been using a different system that's all
[07:47] <cemc> aurax: like i said, i think software raid would be better for you... try installing ubuntu and set up a raid on install
[07:47] <kamikazesponge> topyli: if you say so :)
[07:47] <m1th> konra`, yeah, but the same stuff might happen
[07:47] <topyli> heh
[07:48] <m1th> LILO/GRUB both hanging before start
[07:48] <konra`> m1th, ubuntu uses grub and mandrake lilo, so slightly different
[07:48] <m1th> im just wondering how ubuntu deals with ntfs HDs
[07:48] <konra`> ignores, I think
[07:48] <konra`> m1th, I'm dualing ubuntu and windows
[07:48] <cemc> aurax: it looks like linux sees through that raid set up in the BIOS, hm ?
[07:48] <konra`> m1th, and ubuntu can't access the ntfs, and windows can't acces the ext3
[07:49] <kamikazesponge> topyli: and a symbolic link or a hard link?
[07:49] <konra`> m1th, so I have a shared fat32 partition
[07:49] <metis> nouse: this is what i get "bash: .RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: command not found
[07:49] <metis> "
[07:49] <m1th> konra`, did you have your HD ntfs initially? beofre installing ubuntu
[07:49] <topyli> kamikazesponge: symlink
[07:49] <m1th> or was it fat32?
[07:49] <m1th> ah
[07:49] <kamikazesponge> topyli: uhh.. ok, time for man ln :P
[07:49] <Pickle_Weasel> i need and mp3 plugin/codec
[07:49] <Pickle_Weasel> =\
[07:49] <Pickle_Weasel> an*
[07:49] <NoUse> metis you didn't include the slash
[07:50] <metis> whops needed the slash...thx looks good
[07:50] <NoUse> !bash
[07:50] <ubotu> For a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[07:50] <topyli> kamikazesponge: ln -s :)
[07:50] <konra`> m1th, I partitioned to : 40 GB ext3, 40 GB fat32, 80 GB ntfs
[07:50] <Pickle_Weasel> when i try to play something on rythmbox it tells me "no plugin installed to play..."
[07:50] <metis> didnt realize the capitals make a difference either.....i didnt think it was case sensitve
[07:50] <kamikazesponge> topyli: so symbolic link..
[07:50] <infinito> anyone here using a laptop??
[07:50] <topyli> kamikazesponge: yes
[07:50] <Blissex> infinito: yes.
[07:50] <NoUse> metis all real OSes are
[07:50] <liquidfire> !network
[07:50] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, liquidfire
[07:50] <m1th> konra`,  using partition magic?
[07:50] <kamikazesponge> ok
[07:50] <m1th> or does ubuntu installer come with one?
[07:51] <liquidfire> anybody can help me with my network :/?
[07:51] <infinito> Blissex: maybe you can try this http://infinito.f2o.org/laptoptemp/
[07:51] <liquidfire> i can't seem to see my windows pc's
[07:51] <metis> windows isnt real?
[07:51] <Tadej`Certanc> It works
[07:51] <Tadej`Certanc> thanks
[07:51] <infinito> Blissex: and tell me if it works for you
[07:51] <konra`> m1th, no, fdisk :p
[07:51] <konra`> m1th, easy once you know how to use it
[07:51] <konra`> m1th, and plenty powerful
[07:51] <thrush> =)
[07:51] <m1th> yeah, but it doesnt work on
[07:51] <m1th> ntfs
[07:51] <konra`> m1th, I installed windows, then ubuntu, after setting up that partitioning
[07:52] <konra`> soo I let windows format it's ntfs itself
[07:52] <Blissex> infinito: I use KDE ;-)
[07:52] <infinito> Blissex: hehe thanks any way!
[07:52] <m1th> ntfs partition cant be reached via DOS hence, no fdisk
[07:52] <NoUse> metis not a real OS
[07:52] <topyli> m1th: fdisk doesn't work on ntfs?
[07:52] <Ramah> is there an easy way to rename hd's being mounted automatically?
[07:53] <nitin> anyone install ispconfig on ubuntu?
[07:53] <metis> lol cool thx man
[07:53] <NoUse> metis np
[07:53] <m1th> topyli, er...
[07:53] <moparfan90> hello. does ubuntu come with wine installed?
[07:53] <Ramah> mopar no
[07:53] <kamikazesponge> topyli: like this? root@warlock:/etc/init.d # ln -s rc.local /etc/rc2.d/S99others
[07:53] <moparfan90> o is it hard to install?
[07:53] <konra`> m1th, use fdisk to set up your linux area, shared area, and leave some blank space which you can use for your windows install
[07:53] <NoUse> moparfan90 no but you can get it with synaptic
[07:54] <moparfan90> ook
[07:54] <Ramah> mopar: goto their website and they have a complete install guide for ubuntu
[07:54] <m1th> konra`, aha but i dont wanna lose my data on this HD
[07:54] <Ramah> i mananaged it :)
[07:54] <m1th> konra`, so i might have to go with partition magic
[07:54] <topyli> kamikazesponge: i guess. make sure the script is executable too
[07:55] <kamikazesponge> topyli: thx, nearly forgot
[07:55] <konra`> m1th, ah
[07:55] <samuel> sup all
[07:55] <antix> is there a program for saving streaming audio? *.rm
[07:55] <konra`> m1th, I backedup everything beforehand
[07:55] <metis> im trying to view this website "www.cbtnuggets.com" under "free videos" but dont know what video file format the website is using...can someone help me with what i need to play these videos....my screen is just black when i click on one of the free videos
[07:55] <konra`> m1th, on a netowkr share
[07:56] <samuel> can someone tell me please the repository of breezy?
[07:56] <m1th> konra`, yeah i do have to baackup first though
[07:56] <konra`> m1th, easy for me because I can just use my families network shares :p
[07:57] <m1th> konra`, lucky :p
[07:57] <NoUse> !restricted
[07:57] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:57] <NoUse> ^-- metis
[07:57] <metis> yup
[07:58] <metis> what is the best chat for ubuntu ....voice chat....im currently using gaim
[07:58] <metis> nouse: what were u saying?
[07:58] <NoUse> metis look above my message
[07:59] <NoUse> metis read that restricted formats page
[07:59] <metis> oh
[08:00] <kamikazesponge> topyli: maybe i just did something stupid, but openvpn wasn't started on boot
[08:01] <topyli> kamikazesponge: oh, openvpn. i'm fighting with it too. mine tries to start though :)
[08:02] <topyli> kamikazesponge: so your script is ok, starts with #!/bin/sh and all that?
[08:02] <kamikazesponge> topyli: mine doesn't even moan (actually it shows nothing at all)
[08:02] <metis> nouse: thx for the site but how do i know what the site is using for video....how do i determin if its flash or avi ....etc
[08:02] <kamikazesponge> topyli: err.. no >.<
[08:02] <topyli> heh
[08:02] <topyli> kamikazesponge: no shell takes responsibility for it :)
[08:03] <kamikazesponge> topyli: but can you manually run openvpn? i can make it run manually
[08:03] <Pickle_Weasel> i can't get rythmbox to work, it tells me i don't have the right plugin when i try to play an mp3
[08:03] <topyli> kamikazesponge: yes i can. i only have authentication problems with my university
[08:03] <kamikazesponge> topyli: is the port forwarded at the university? (or wherever the client is)
[08:04] <aurax> anyone ever tried to isntall software raid ?
[08:04] <NoUse> metis if you right-click on the page and click "View Page Info", there is a list of the media on the page
[08:04] <topyli> kamikazesponge: this is the client. all i did was make a hole in my firewall...
[08:04] <topyli> the university was so advertising their new vpn system :)
[08:04] <Gadi> hope someone can answer this:  Installed Hoary on a server SCSI hotswap drive.  Put it in identical server hardware, but kernel panics on boot
[08:04] <kamikazesponge> topily: you need the client too :P
[08:05] <anachronism> Does anybody know why the fonts may look grainy (i guess not anti-aliased) in some applications and in other applications they are allright?
[08:05] <Gadi> cant pivot root
[08:05] <Gadi> so, it find the boot partition ok, but cant find the rootfs
[08:05] <Gadi> grub points to /dev/sda1
[08:05] <topyli> kamikazesponge: i think i have it, hand-tailored from source from openvpn site, as per instructions by the university staff
[08:06] <kamikazesponge> topyli: and your university provided you with ca.crt, client.crt and client.key?
[08:07] <topyli> kamikazesponge: they gave me openvpn.conf, and "openvpn-hy.txt" which has a key
[08:08] <Kyral> !printing
[08:08] <ubotu> I don't know, Kyral
[08:08] <kamikazesponge> topyli: for as far as i know you need three files, whatever name they may have, names can be set in the conf, but they once had to be <you>.conf <you>.crt, <you>.key and ca.crt
[08:08] <kamikazesponge> four*
If you're a freshman, MSC Open House is a great place to find student organizations.</p>
[08:09] <JeffAMcGee> oops,sorry
[08:09] <topyli> kamikazesponge: i'll re-read the instructions =)
[08:09] <JeffAMcGee> I accidentally middle clicked
[08:09] <kamikazesponge> topyli: ok
[08:09] <metis> can anyone recommend a good chat site?
[08:09] <topyli> kamikazesponge: then i'll bother their IT staff. after all it was them who lured me into trying this ;)
[08:09] <kamikazesponge> metis: www.google.nl
[08:10] <kamikazesponge> topyli: lol
[08:11] <topyli> JeffAMcGee: i'm sure it's true though
[08:12] <topyli> metis: i recommend staying on IRC :)
[08:12] <kamikazesponge> topyli: still not working.. is there a way i can test if the script is actually runned?
[08:12] <metis> topyli: can i do voice chat ?
[08:12] <topyli> metis: no
[08:12] <metis> awwww lol
[08:13] <topyli> kamikazesponge: i don't think so. obviously it has failed though. mine starts with #!/bin/sh -e for some reason
[08:13] <thrush> metis: have you tried talk.google yet?
[08:14] <metis> nope i havent
[08:14] <tommi^> Hi. I've installed mysql, added a user, granted privileges and then made a small php script. I'm getting access denied for the user from the script and from mysql-admin program. Why doesn't mysql accept user/password? Thanks
[08:14] <kamikazesponge> topyli: shouldn't it be /bin/bash or something? (just a random thought, not that i know what i'm saying..)
[08:14] <topyli> bash is linked to sh
[08:14] <topyli> err. sh is linked to bash :)
[08:14] <kamikazesponge> topyli: ok. and what does the -e option do?
[08:15] <topyli> dunno
[08:15] <kamikazesponge> lol
[08:15] <topyli> i got a ready-made script for openvpn
[08:15] <Kyral> Anyone know why the heck I'm getting a memory leak from gDesklets?
[08:15] <cemc> tommi^: what does it say,
[08:15] <cemc> tommi^: when you try to connect to it with mysql -u user -p
[08:15] <cemc>  ?
[08:16] <tommi^> cemc, ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'tommi@localhost' (Using password: YES)
[08:16] <mgbaron> has anyone in this room done any apache port based virtual hosts before?
[08:16] <tommi^> I see, I got an error #id from that way
[08:16] <cemc> tommi^: what grant command did u use ?
[08:16] <Cylla> Is it possible to edit the network settings from the System menu? It states that I must have root access to modify them and I should press the Administrator Mode button. I have yet to be able to find it.
[08:16] <tommi^> cemc, mysqlnavigator's grant system
[08:17] <cemc> tommi^: hm, i don't know that...
[08:17] <yaul> question - how do i tell apt or dpkg to look in like say ~/debpackagesfolder/ for .deb's so if i have say mplayer.deb i can do apt-get install mplayer. also, how do i make it so this local stash of .debs has higher precedance over the ubuntu repositories? can i do this by modifying sources.list?
[08:17] <tommi^> cemc, I think added permission for both mysql and to a db
[08:17] <nitin> anyone know how to get ispconfig installed, its crashing for me with ERROR: Could not make OpenSSL
[08:17] <cemc> tommi^: do you have root password ?
[08:18] <cemc> tommi^: for mysql, i mean
[08:18] <tommi^> cemc, yes, I'm the administator.
[08:18] <Kyral> ....why doesn't gDesklets release VM properly...or at all for that matter?'
[08:18] <cemc> tommi^: of course you do... stupid question..
[08:18] <cemc> tommi^: with that admin tool,
[08:19] <cemc> when you gave privileges,
[08:19] <chaps0063> What problems will I run into running without a swap partition?
[08:19] <cemc> what username did you put in?
[08:19] <cemc> did it ask for a hostname too ?
[08:19] <yaul> chaps0063: if you don't have enough ram some mem intense programs like openoffice/gimp will run slow
[08:19] <tommi^> cemc, the correct one. Hostname was %
[08:20] <topyli> kamikazesponge: i made a test script with webmin, with only one command /bin/false. use that as a skeleton: http://siltala.net/comp/test
[08:20] <chaps0063> yaul: okay, well OO was something I was going to use...
[08:20] <chaps0063> so thats good to know.
[08:20] <kamikazesponge> topyli: ok
[08:20] <cemc> tommi^: uhum... and i guess you type in the password right ?
[08:20] <AptGet> ubuntu claims to only need 64 megs of ram.....but i dont know about that
[08:20] <kamikazesponge> topyli: waah, it doesn't even look like mine :P
[08:20] <aurax> cemc u tried software raid ?
[08:20] <yaul> AptGet: maybe ubuntu can run in 64mb ram but no programs can :)
[08:20] <tommi^> cemc, that's for sure. I'll try now removing and adding the user again.
[08:20] <cemc> aurax: yes, but not on /
[08:21] <topyli> kamikazesponge: it's professionally forged by a machine, my scripts don't look like that either =)
[08:21] <kamikazesponge> topyli: lol :P
[08:21] <CarlFK> AptGet - I think I had it running on a 48meg box
[08:21] <topyli> kamikazesponge: webmin makes init scripts for whatever commands you like :)
[08:21] <kamikazesponge> topyli: then i guess i'd better get webmin..
[08:21] <AptGet> my advice to people with low ram......do a debian base install ... then get xfce ot icewm
[08:22] <cemc> aurax: i tried raid1
[08:22] <topyli> kamikazesponge: it's a nice tool for some things
[08:22] <kamikazesponge> topyli: so i've heard
[08:22] <CarlFK> yeah - I don't think I did a full install, but I did get xorg and firefiox running
[08:22] <kamikazesponge> topyli: can it just be installed with apt-get?
[08:22] <cemc> tommi^: try adding localhost as the hostname
[08:22] <kamikazesponge> topyli: waah, never mind..
[08:22] <thrush> icewm?! blackbox
[08:23] <tommi^> cemc, I think the user information table is somehow screwed. mysql_fix_privilege_tables gives me that kind of idea. Well, I'll poke around it little bit and see what I can come up with. Thanks for your help, I'll get back later..
[08:23] <AptGet> icewm is pretty cool imho
[08:23] <cemc> tommi^: i know that % = everything
[08:23] <topyli> kamikazesponge: yes. search for it in synaptic and you get a long list of modules
[08:23] <metis> anyone good at creloaded email config?
[08:23] <aurax> cemc
[08:23] <aurax> can you explain how
[08:23] <AptGet> but i have ram to spare so kde for me
[08:23] <kamikazesponge> topyli: i did apt-cache search but it wouldn't show anything for a long time.. didn't think there were so many things
[08:24] <cemc> aurax: read this http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html
[08:24] <AptGet> kamikazesponge: what package?
[08:24] <topyli> kamikazesponge: webmin, webmin-core and a kazillion module packages
[08:25] <aurax> cemc i would like to know if its possible to set a software raid @ isntallation level
[08:25] <aurax> level/phase
[08:25] <topyli> kamikazesponge: webmin-core has the essential system stuff
[08:25] <ssdd65> ok so im still having troble with xmms where it locks up whenever i press a buttion i do know the sound system is up though any ideas?