[11:54] <BenjaminD> WaltzingAlong: after adding modules to xorg, i lost transluceny... :S
[11:54] <contrast83> blenbb: "sudo apt-get install kpowersave" might be a good start... What exactly are you trying to do?
[11:54] <WaltzingAlong> sirjoshimus: perhaps through autoremove in apt-get
[11:54] <B4S3M> thx WaltzingAlong ... owe u :)
[11:55] <WaltzingAlong> BenjaminD: how about the new log to pastebin
[11:55] <WaltzingAlong> B4S3M: which module did you pick? ati or vesa?              if you are on gutsy and want fglrx  you could install it through the restricted manager
[11:55] <BenjaminD> cmd again?
[11:56] <sirjoshimus> WaltzingAlong: it still leaves all the metapackage contents
[11:56] <sirjoshimus> its very annoying, its sloppy work
[11:56] <WaltzingAlong> sirjoshimus: i typically use aptitude
[11:56] <WaltzingAlong> !aptitude | sirjoshimus
[11:56] <sirjoshimus> WaltzingAlong: whats the difference?
[11:56] <ubotu> sirjoshimus: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[11:56] <blenbb> contrast83: I would like to save battery :)
[11:57] <B4S3M> WaltzingAlong i didnt pick any ... :S lol
[11:57] <magicalmoose> Hey, I have a problem. I'm currently trying to install a game with a tar.gz extension.
[11:58] <magicalmoose> and i can't get past the ./configure part
[11:58] <MidMark> JohnFlux: shut down xorg doesn't help in fact
[11:58] <contrast83> blenbb: kpowersave :-)
[11:58] <MidMark> now 1% us, 2 sys
[11:58] <BenjaminD> WaltzingAlong: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44720/
[11:59] <MidMark> but fan and cpu are @ 100%
[11:59] <JohnFlux> MidMark: fun
[11:59] <WaltzingAlong> BenjaminD: perhaps you need to set the AGPGART in according to the radeon page i have sent
[11:59] <JohnFlux> MidMark: reboot ? :-)
[11:59] <contrast83> That'll let you set up a custom profile for when you're running on battery.
[11:59]  * contrast83 loathes the kde-guidance-powermanager applet.
[12:00] <B4S3M> any idea how to have a Verilogger on kubuntu ?
[12:00] <MidMark> JohnFlux: yeah, but sometimes the problem reappears
[12:00] <blenbb> hmm my laptop has 1024 mb ram, but free shows only: 905216. Kubuntu has highmem support i hope!
[12:01] <WaltzingAlong> blenbb: is your video card using some of that?
[12:01] <contrast83> Doesn't the video card only use system memory if you specifically set it up that way in your xorg.conf?
[12:02] <WaltzingAlong> BenjaminD:  also in konsole, LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo                     then pastebin those results
[12:02] <BenjaminD> if i add Virtual, do i put "1026x768" in quotes or     1024 768   like instructions?
[12:02] <WaltzingAlong> contrast83: i was thinking of the intergrated video interfaces that have no dedicated RAM but use only main system RAM
[12:03] <WaltzingAlong> BenjaminD: like in the instructions
[12:03] <contrast83> WaltzingAlong: Right, that's what I'm referring to.
[12:03] <WaltzingAlong> contrast83: and in that case i do not know if xorg.conf allows one to manage the system ram available to the video interface
[12:04] <contrast83> It does. :-)
[12:04] <contrast83> Under the Device section, you just put in a line like VideoRAM "65536"
[12:05] <WaltzingAlong> contrast83: ok to minimize it but not possible to put it to 0
[12:05] <contrast83> I'm pretty sure it defaults to 0, i.e., if you don't have a line like that there.
[12:06] <JohnFlux> MidMark: kill the programs one by one until the cpu drops?
[12:06] <contrast83> On my old laptop that had an integrated Intel, I couldn't even play 640x480 videos until I put that line in, so I'm pretty sure it just wasn't using any system RAM.
[12:06] <JohnFlux> MidMark: then you can find out which is the program
[12:08] <WaltzingAlong> contrast83: oh, i see, interesting
[12:08] <WaltzingAlong> thanks for the update
[12:08] <contrast83> np
[12:08] <contrast83> Does anyone here play Frets on Fire? It performs *horribly* on Gutsy for me, played fine in Feisty on the same machine. :-\
[12:09] <renzo> si
[12:11] <WaltzingAlong> videoRAM: This optional entry specifies the amount of video ram that is installed on the graphics board. This is measured in kBytes. In most cases this is not required because the Xorg server probes the graphics board to determine this quantity. The driver-specific documentation should indicate when it might be needed.        so seems in your case it may have been using some already just not enough?
[12:13] <contrast83> maybe
[12:13] <BenjaminD> WaltzingAlong: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44723/
[12:13] <BenjaminD> added GART
[12:13] <BenjaminD> and virtual desktop
[12:14] <BenjaminD> transparency still gone
[12:14] <BenjaminD> :S
[12:14] <WaltzingAlong> BenjaminD: now that one shows direct rendering yes
[12:15] <BenjaminD> shit it did too
[12:15] <BenjaminD> just looking now
[12:15] <BenjaminD> what abou tlibGL warinigns?
[12:15] <WaltzingAlong> BenjaminD: what was giving transparency before? system settings/window behavior/translucency?
[12:16] <BenjaminD> yeah
[12:16] <BenjaminD> my opengl screen savers work better now
[12:16] <BenjaminD> :)
[12:16] <BenjaminD> id really love to get a window manager similar to beryl/compiz
[12:17] <BenjaminD> but continue with kde
[12:18] <nick_> Hey everyone, I have a dual boot question.  I installed windows after linux and it overrode my boot loader.  So, went back in Linux and re-overrode the bootloader so now it boots into Linux, but I want to make it a dual boot machine.  I nanoed into menu.lst but I didn't see Windows on the list  What should I do?
[12:18] <WaltzingAlong> nick_: if your system still has ms windows recovery may be as easy as adding a few lines, a new entry, to menu.lst
[12:20] <nick_> WaltzingAlong: Ok, I have this information so far...or at least I thougth I was looking for this, "Title of operating syste (new line) rootnoverify (hd0,0) (new line) make active (new line) chainloader +1"
[12:20] <nick_> But I didn't know if I was supposed to add that or find it
[12:20] <WaltzingAlong> nick_: is windows sitting on hd0,0? sda1 or hda1 ? sure you could manually add to that file
[12:20] <BenjaminD> No diversion `any diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1', none removed
[12:22] <nick_> WaltzingAlong: I have forgotten the find command...where should I put that in to find that information?
[12:22] <WaltzingAlong> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:24] <nick_> It says I have 3 Ubuntu installations, generic, recovery and memtest+86
[12:24] <WaltzingAlong> !grub | nick_, may be helpful to start here
[12:24] <ubotu> nick_, may be helpful to start here: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:25] <BenjaminD> WaltzingAlong: that worked!
[12:25] <BenjaminD> WaltzingAlong: thank you very much
[12:25] <nick_> WaltzingAlong: all of them are are hd0,1
[12:25] <WaltzingAlong> BenjaminD: cheers!
[12:26] <WaltzingAlong> nick_: check the grub manual, there is a section on booting to dos/windows         http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/DOS_002fWindows.html#DOS_002fWindows
[12:26] <nick_> WaltzingAlong: So there's this one other small problem, I can't display webpages in Linux, for some reason my isp will only display webpages on Windows...it's been a long find and I still don't have the answer
[12:26] <nick_> WaltzingAlong: That's why I installed Windows again
[12:26] <nick_> fight not find*
[12:28] <WaltzingAlong> nick_: interesting; so you need at least to know which drive and partition contains ms windows
[12:29] <nick_> WaltzingAlong: Ok, wait, I got it to load in conquerer...lucky, this was the page that I was working from earlier
[12:29] <WaltzingAlong> yeah first guess on that is misconfigured proxy settings, nick_
[12:30] <nick_> WaltzingAlong: That seems to be the best bet, my guess is a transparent proxy because sometimes it will work, and then without touching any other settings it will stop, and all other internet services work, and my roommate has a mac and the same problems, but all my flatmates have windows and no problems
[12:32] <nick_> WaltzingAlong: Ok, I'm not understanding what's going on, I'm typing gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and nothign is happening, it is just returning me to the prompt
[12:33] <WaltzingAlong> kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[12:33] <nick_> That did it
[12:34] <nick_> Same thing I was looking at when I nanoed into it, still no windows on the list
[12:34] <nick_> Can we use process of elimination to tell where Windows is?  or is there another way to find it?
[12:36] <WaltzingAlong> nick_: you need to add the entry for ms windows to the list. sure qtparted could show you details about the disks/partitions/filesystems
[12:38] <BenjaminD> WaltzingAlong: would i be silly to install xglserver now i have my ati drivers working fine?
[12:38] <nick_> WaltzingAlong: So, I just need to know what the number after hd is (like in the example on the webpage hd0,0) plug in the lines and reboot?
[12:38] <WaltzingAlong> BenjaminD: :D now you have the opensource 3d drivers for some ati cards working ... if it were my system, i would keep that part as it is (skipping on xserver-xgl)
[12:39] <BenjaminD> i was thinking that
[12:39] <WaltzingAlong> BenjaminD: but you could investigate how to get transparency/translucency back
[12:39] <BenjaminD> no no, my transparency is back
[12:39] <BenjaminD> and opengl works
[12:39] <WaltzingAlong> oh!
[12:39] <BenjaminD> everything is running sweet
[12:40] <nick_> Found it, "01 /dev/sda1 ntfs"
[12:40] <BenjaminD> i would like to get beryl/compiz though.. can i use with the setup i have now (AIGLX is it?) ?
[12:40] <BenjaminD> im happy not to
[12:40] <WaltzingAlong> BenjaminD: aiglx currently, yes. try it out (compiz-fusion)
[12:40] <BenjaminD> thanks
[12:41] <BenjaminD> that will still install all the gnome files yes?
[12:41] <WaltzingAlong> BenjaminD: yes
[12:41] <BenjaminD> i think ill pass
[12:42] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | BenjaminD, instructions here
[12:42] <WaltzingAlong> BenjaminD: :D ok
[12:42] <BenjaminD> is there an alternative app?
[12:42] <BenjaminD> or is installing the gnome stuff not that bad?
[12:43] <WaltzingAlong> BenjaminD: try it out. install it through aptitude    (sudo aptitude install <package> ) so you can easily remove it should you wish
[12:43] <BenjaminD> thanks again
[12:45] <obiajf> hm
[12:46] <nick_> WaltzingAlong: So, I add those lines under the three ubuntu entries yes?
[12:46] <WaltzingAlong> nick_: yes
[12:46] <nick_> WaltzingAlong: Awesome, thank you so much for the help
[12:46] <WaltzingAlong> nick_: well we will see how well that works ;)
[12:47] <nick_> If I'm back in 15 minutes you'll know :)
[12:58] <MarcoPau> hello, where do I disable automount?
[13:02] <timri> WaltzingAlong: "<nick_> If I'm back in 15 minutes you'll know :)" uh oh.... :)
[13:09] <WaltzingAlong> timri: maybe he was rounding?
[13:09] <timri> WaltzingAlong: :)
[13:09] <WaltzingAlong> or made it back in 5 minutes so decided not to let me know
[13:13] <toshi1> updates packet
[13:19] <thylio> How can i get my soundcard working?  Kubuntu doesent seem to find it.
[13:20] <Oldtoker> Finally I seem to have gotten a good download of kubuntu..
[13:21] <Oldtoker> wow. took long enough :)
[13:21] <MidMark> thylio: which one?
[13:21] <WaltzingAlong> !sound | thylio
[13:21] <ubotu> thylio: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[13:24] <Oldtoker> !libdecss |Oldtoker
[13:24] <Oldtoker> hummm :(
[13:25] <ScorpKing> Oldtoker: !bla > you
[13:25] <Oldtoker> yea he didn't know anything about it
[13:25] <Oldtoker> :)
[13:25] <Oldtoker> !playingdvds |Oldtoker
[13:26] <ScorpKing> what do you want to know?
[13:26] <Oldtoker> doesn't seem to know anything about that either.
[13:26] <Oldtoker> just where to get libdecss for kubuntu
[13:26] <ScorpKing> codecs?
[13:27] <Oldtoker> the library that lets you watch commerical dvd's in linux..
[13:27] <Oldtoker> it de-scrambles the css protection scheme
[13:27] <ScorpKing> ah i see.
[13:27] <llutz> Oldtoker: libdvdcss2
[13:27] <WaltzingAlong> !info libdvdcss2
[13:27] <ubotu> Package libdvdcss2 does not exist in gutsy
[13:28] <thylio> WaltzingAlong: Have allready done that. When i try to play mp3 files in xmms, it states that maybe another program is blocking the sound card (or somthing like that
[13:28] <WaltzingAlong> !medibuntu | Oldtoker
[13:28] <ubotu> Oldtoker: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[13:28] <ScorpKing> Oldtoker: sudo aptitude search dvd | grep lib
[13:28] <thylio> andreas@laptop:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards            --- no soundcard ---
[13:29] <WaltzingAlong> thylio: and that may be the case. in konsole, aplay -l         shows your sound card?                 set kde to use alsa       system settings/sound system/hardware then select device alsa
[13:29] <Oldtoker> WaltzingAlong: thanks for the info
[13:29] <Oldtoker> :)
[13:29] <ScorpKing> Oldtoker: that will show you the available lib packages for dvd ;)
[13:29] <Oldtoker> as soon as I'm done installing here.. I will check it out ;)
[13:29] <WaltzingAlong> !pastebin | thylio, paste the results of        lspci          (or lsusb if the sound card is usb)
[13:29] <ubotu> thylio, paste the results of        lspci          (or lsusb if the sound card is usb): pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[13:30] <thylio> WaltzingAlong: alsa is selected.
[13:31] <WaltzingAlong> thylio: but if aplay -l       shows no cards, a module/driver supporting the soundcard has not been loaded
[13:32] <thylio> WaltzingAlong: Here is the paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44729/
[13:32] <WaltzingAlong> !intehda
[13:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intehda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:32] <WaltzingAlong> !intelhda
[13:32] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[13:33] <WaltzingAlong> !intelhda | thylio, follow this guide
[13:33] <ubotu> thylio, follow this guide: please see above
[13:33] <thylio> WaltzingAlong: As always, thanks for the help
[13:34] <WaltzingAlong> thylio: you probably could skip the part on building the latest alsa, instead skipping to setting the module parameters
[13:35] <thylio> WaltzingAlong: Okay;D
[13:36] <MidMark> thylio: install also linux-backports-modules package
[13:36] <MidMark> it's needed because has a newer driver for your soundcard
[13:36] <thylio> MidMark:  Will do:)
[13:37] <MidMark> then you just need to add the model in the file as explained in that link
[13:37] <MidMark> usually acer or toshiba should work
[13:38] <thylio> "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec"   No sutch file or directory
[13:38] <MidMark> thylio: yeah first install the package I said, then reboot
[13:39] <MidMark> then do the other things
[13:39] <thylio> MidMark. Aah Okay;D
[13:39] <MidMark> your card now doesn't exist so the command is useless
[13:39] <MidMark> till you install properly drivers
[13:40] <thylio> MidMark: aah. I see
[13:45] <thylio> WaltzingAlong: Can  u give me the link for the guide again?
[13:46] <WaltzingAlong> !intelhda | thylio
[13:46] <ubotu> thylio: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[13:46] <thylio> thx
[13:47] <WaltzingAlong> thylio: cat /proc/asound/card0/co         then tab to see the rest; mine was cat /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0/ac97#0-0
[13:48]  * genii guzzles a coffee
[13:48] <WaltzingAlong> thylio: or with cat /proc/asound/card0/codec*/*
[13:48]  * WaltzingAlong has thus far skipped on the mocha for today
[13:49] <genii> :)
[13:49] <WaltzingAlong> genii: perhaps coming later!
[13:50] <genii> WaltzingAlong: Need hot beverages here today, it's begun to snow (lightly but it's still snow)
[13:50] <WaltzingAlong> genii: about 2 inches here i think; yeah a bit cold too ;
[13:51] <thylio> WaltzingAlong:
[13:51] <thylio> andreas@laptop:~$ sudo cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec
[13:51] <thylio> Codec: SigmaTel STAC9205
[13:51] <thylio> Codec: Conexant ID 2c06
[13:51] <genii> Hmm problemmatic Conexant stuff again
[13:52] <thylio> I can only find the Conexant codec in alsa doc
[13:52] <MidMark> thylio: really
[13:52] <MidMark> use acer or toshiba will work
[13:52] <MidMark> as model, I had the same problem with another notebook and same ich8 chip
[13:52] <MidMark> try it :)
[13:53] <thylio> MidMarc: Hmm. Where do i find the acer/tochiba models then?
[13:53] <MidMark> put options snd-hda-intel model=acer in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[13:53] <MidMark> if it doesn't work try with options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba
[13:54] <MidMark> understood?
[13:54] <thylio> MidMark: Yeah, i'll try it;D
[13:54] <MidMark> you need to reboot every time AFAIK
[13:55] <thylio> AFAIK?
[13:56] <MidMark> As Far As I Know
[13:56] <timri> MidMark: You mean: As Far As I Know IIRC :)
[13:56] <timri> thylio: "If I Recall Correctly"
[13:58]  * timri is surprised at the short compile time for konversation
[13:58] <thylio> thx ppl, got to  go to bed now, big party tonight :D
[14:01] <MidMark> thylio: at least say us if it have worked!
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :>)
[14:03] <ScorpKing> hi BluesKaj
[14:03] <WaltzingAlong> rebooting is not necessary but likely much easier than manually unloading then loading the modules
[14:04] <BluesKaj> hey ScorpKing ...gave up on svn and kde4 ...broken beyond repair ...unbelievable  considering how easily it actually installed
[14:05] <ScorpKing> hehe.
[14:05] <BluesKaj> definitely not ready for 64bit gutsy
[14:11] <Oldtoker> hi all
[14:11] <Oldtoker> I added this to my adept..
[14:11] <Oldtoker> but still can't seem to find the libdcss2
[14:11] <Oldtoker> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/gutsy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[14:11] <sharkp> Hi
[14:11] <sharkp> I've to compile amarok
[14:12] <sharkp> but configure asked to me kde headers
[14:12] <sharkp> what shall I do?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> Oldtoker, libdvdcss2
[14:13] <sharkp> anyone?
[14:13] <Oldtoker> BluesKaj, doesn't show up..
[14:13] <Oldtoker> and I do see the repositories for media sources. loaded... but something is wrong.. I keep geting messages about some packages failing.
[14:14] <Oldtoker> either due to bad download or it will break something.
[14:14] <sharkp> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[14:14] <sharkp> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[14:14] <sharkp> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[14:14] <sharkp> what means??
[14:14] <timri> sharkp: you need at least  kdebase-dev
[14:14] <sharkp> ok,I'll try
[14:15] <timri> sharkp: But simpler is to just install kde-devel
[14:15] <Oldtoker> is there a way I can make it purge it's repositories.. and redownload?
[14:15] <Oldtoker> In mandriva it's possible.. Sorry new Convert here :)
[14:15] <sharkp> timri, which are the differences?
[14:16] <timri> sharkp: That will also pull in the arts dev packages (often necessary)
[14:16] <WaltzingAlong> Oldtoker: first sudo aptitude update; then        sudo aptitude -f install              shows what?
[14:16] <sharkp> timri, now I'm trying with kdebase-dv
[14:16] <timri> sharkp: dev
[14:16] <timri> sharkp: not dv
[14:16] <Oldtoker> WaltzingAlong, working.....
[14:16] <sharkp> timri, yes yes
[14:16] <sharkp> I know...
[14:17] <timri> :)
[14:17] <BluesKaj> source-o-matic | Oldtoker
[14:17] <BluesKaj> !source-o-matic | Oldtoker
[14:17] <ubotu> Oldtoker: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[14:17] <sharkp> timri, I want to use new libgpod 6.0
[14:17] <sharkp> i've installed it
[14:17] <sharkp> Have I to do anything with amarok?
[14:18] <timri> sharkp: sharkp: I have no idea what libgpod does, nor do I have amarok installed :)
[14:18] <WaltzingAlong> !ipod + sharkp
[14:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipod + sharkp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:18] <WaltzingAlong> !ipod | sharkp
[14:18] <ubotu> sharkp: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[14:18] <sharkp> oh, ok :)
[14:18] <sharkp> WaltzingAlong, is it updated?
[14:18] <sharkp> 'couse I've a 3rd gen Ipod
[14:18] <Oldtoker> WaltzingAlong,   ---> http://pastebin.com/d3bbd2f8a
[14:19] <WaltzingAlong> Oldtoker: adept aptitude apt-get dpkg and so on, only one can have an exclusive lock on the DB at one time; any of those others running? otherwise check !aptfix
[14:19] <WaltzingAlong> sharkp: do not know
[14:20] <timri> sharkp: Tip: if you feel more comfortable developing in a IDE (I do), try kdevelop. You can then import other peoples' projects.
[14:20] <Kis> Русские есть!?
[14:20] <Oldtoker> and the output from the other command you wanted me to run
[14:20] <Oldtoker> http://pastebin.com/m29d3ce7c
[14:20] <timri> !ru
[14:20] <ubotu> Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[14:21] <Oldtoker> WaltzingAlong, ok now the error about the DB went away
[14:21] <WaltzingAlong> Oldtoker: sure need to do those commands when no other application is using the db; ok
[14:22] <Oldtoker> WaltzingAlong, new info for ya http://pastebin.com/m66180684
[14:23] <WaltzingAlong> Oldtoker: default is N but i usually pick Y or I unless i know i modified the file
[14:23] <Oldtoker> This is a completely new install
[14:23] <psychoholic> hello is any one getting weard errors with ap-get
[14:23] <Oldtoker> Just finished about 10 minsa go
[14:23] <WaltzingAlong> Oldtoker: give it a Y then
[14:23] <WaltzingAlong> psychoholic: which
[14:24] <psychoholic> Unable to save bookmarks in /home/psychoholic/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Permission denied. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive.
[14:24] <Oldtoker> WaltzingAlong, http://pastebin.com/m2b9daf13
[14:24] <psychoholic> sorry thats the dolfin one i'm getting
[14:24] <Oldtoker> so that will have fixed the errors I have now?
[14:24] <timri> psychoholic: let me guess, bookmarks.xml does not exist ?
[14:24] <psychoholic> yes
[14:25] <timri> psychoholic: another guess: You recently ran some GUI app with sudo?
[14:25] <psychoholic> but sp -get is geting one too
[14:25] <psychoholic> ummm yep
[14:25] <WaltzingAlong> Oldtoker: ok and now     sudo aptitude install libdvdcss2           , that is the package you wanted from medibuntu right
[14:25] <timri> psychoholic: Never EVER use sudo with a gui app. Use kdesu if you must :)
[14:25] <psychoholic> hmm how
[14:26] <timri> psychoholic: ...to solve it ?
[14:26] <jpatrick> timri, psychoholic: kdesudo ;)
[14:26] <psychoholic> well i'll google kdesu
[14:26] <ScorpKing> kdesudo <app>
[14:26] <timri> jpatrick: that's a link to kdesu isn't it?
[14:26] <psychoholic> ok
[14:26] <WaltzingAlong> psychoholic: so reset the permissions. in konsole, sudo chown psychoholic:psychoholic /home/psychoholic -R
[14:26]  * Oldtoker Bows humbly at the feet of the kubuntu master "WaltzingAlong"
[14:26] <Oldtoker> LOL
[14:26] <WaltzingAlong> Oldtoker: haha
[14:26] <timri> WaltzingAlong: Heh! It was my turn... grumble :)
[14:27]  * WaltzingAlong passes the torch to timri; ok ok how about teaching him to use sudo CLIapp but kdesu/kdesudo GUIapp ? ;)
[14:27] <psychoholic> now let me see what that ap get error is brb
[14:27] <timri> WaltzingAlong: That was NOT a good thing to suggest, though. Some files (even in ~) should remain root.root owned !
[14:28] <Oldtoker> WaltzingAlong, I just hope I don't become too much of a pest.. being's as I have PTSD and a few other slight problems.. mostly stemming from war.. I tend to get things slower than the average person.. so I'd like to take the opportunity to apologize in advance.
[14:28] <WaltzingAlong> timri: such as? . and .. ? :D
[14:28] <jpatrick> timri: yeah, but kdesudo should cause less confusion with new users
[14:28] <timri> WaltzingAlong: :)
[14:28] <Oldtoker> but thank you for all your help thus far.
[14:28] <WaltzingAlong> Oldtoker: for what? are there more questions to come! ah glad to help
[14:28] <ajmoulen> actually kdesu is linked to kdesudo on ubuntu not the other way around
[14:28] <timri> WaltzingAlong: I think adept wants to store some credentials stuff in ~ sometimes
[14:29] <ajmoulen> but the same still holds I guess
[14:29] <timri> ajmoulen: Thanks, I took the 50% change I guessed right :)
[14:29] <psychoholic> this is the other error
[14:29] <timri> ajmoulen: And failed...
[14:29] <psychoholic> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[14:29] <WaltzingAlong> psychoholic: in konsole, sudo aptitude -f install              shows what?
[14:29] <ajmoulen> timri: it is Friday at least here, so that is okay ;-)
[14:30] <psychoholic> every time i update and install new apps
[14:30] <timri> Tsk, tsk what will big blue say ...
[14:30] <psychoholic> Adept
[14:30] <psychoholic> any update or install
[14:30] <ajmoulen> timri: if that was too me, they would say get back to work you slouch
[14:31] <timri> psychoholic: Adept spits out that generic warning for any number of reasons. Close adept, and try to run sudo aptitude from a konsole window
[14:31] <timri> ajmoulen: :)
[14:31] <Oldtoker> OH!!! WaltzingAlong, I had a wierd message about my nvidia driver.. it was trying to do some stuff.. "Restricted Driver manager" or something along those lines.. was trying to do something while the system was updating.. so I don't know if this is using the nvidia driver.. any way I can re-run the restricted driver thingy again?
[14:32] <Oldtoker> and yes BTW thingy is a very technical term.. :)
[14:32] <NightBird> question... I have a fresh install of fesity kubuntu, but when I pull up the package manager and update the list, it claims that there is a new version available.  If I click on that button, it starts the version upgrade tool, but then it notices that I'm already running Feisty and closes.  How do I fix this?
[14:32] <timri> psychoholic: Start konsole with alt+2, then konsole
[14:32] <timri> psychoholic: ehh... make that alt+F2
[14:32] <psychoholic> well is did some thing
[14:32] <WaltzingAlong> Oldtoker: sure it is in kmenu/system settings/advanced/restricted drivers
[14:33] <NightBird> I've also tried an apt-get dist-upgrade, and that doesn't do anything
[14:33] <ubuntu> Please help me! I'm using kubuntu live cd, but the partitioner wont resize one partition, what should I do? The partition I want to resize is ntfs.
[14:33] <psychoholic> i'm in konsol
[14:33] <DaSkreech> timri: The big blue E ?
[14:33] <psychoholic> right now and i used the sudo command
[14:33] <timri> DaSkreech: No some former typewriter manufacturer ... :)
[14:33] <ajmoulen> HEY!
[14:33] <WaltzingAlong> NightBird: feisty is 7.04 and gutsy is 7.10, so yes there is a dist upgrade for feisty to gutsy
[14:33] <timri> psychoholic: ok, run sudo aptitude and tell me what it says
[14:33] <DaSkreech> timri: oh THE big blue
[14:33] <timri> ajmoulen: hehe :)
[14:34] <NightBird> WaltzingAlong: er... right, I'm running gutsy....
[14:34] <Oldtoker> under k menu / system... that's as far as I get.. the settings is missing?
[14:34] <DaSkreech> ajmoulen: You take offence to typewriters?
[14:34] <WaltzingAlong> timri: sudo aptitude will run the ncurses interface
[14:34] <psychoholic> bunch of stuff and this
[14:34] <Oldtoker> if that's possible
[14:34] <psychoholic>      D     : show the differences between the versions
[14:34] <psychoholic>       Z     : background this process to examine the situation
[14:34] <psychoholic>  The default action is to keep your current version.
[14:34] <psychoholic> *** qt_plugins_3.3rc (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?
[14:34] <ubuntu> Please help me! I'm using kubuntu live cd, but the partitioner wont resize one partition, what should I do? The partition I want to resize is ntfs. Please help!
[14:34] <ajmoulen> ubuntu: you may need to consider another partitioning tool
[14:34] <psychoholic> what sould i type
[14:34] <psychoholic> n
[14:34] <WaltzingAlong> NightBird: that is a known issue. fixed within updates so you should grab the updates, upgrade to them
[14:34] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: try gparted
[14:34] <WaltzingAlong> psychoholic: Y or I
[14:34] <ubuntu> ajmoulen: I'll try the qtparted
[14:34] <timri> psychoholic: Ah, that one. Press Y
[14:34] <psychoholic> I will go I
[14:34] <ajmoulen> ubuntu: what error do you get?
[14:35] <ajmoulen> it is likely you have data at the end of the drive it can't move
[14:35] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, download and burn GParted Live CD partition editor. It's a bootable live cd which will edit your partitons and it's easy to use
[14:35] <ubuntu> no error, the resizing just stucks in 0%
[14:35] <NightBird> WaltzingAlong: what do you mean I should grab the updates?  is there a new cd I need to download or something?
[14:35]  * timri already harrassed ridell about that qt3 package thingy.
[14:35] <ubuntu> BluesKaj: can I burn it on dvd?
[14:35] <ajmoulen> ubuntu: I would suggest uing BluesKaj suggestion
[14:35] <ubuntu> but can I burn it on dvd? I'm out of cds
[14:36] <ajmoulen> DaSkreech: nothing against typewriters
[14:36] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, data dvd should work yes
[14:36] <WaltzingAlong> NightBird: no i just meant through adept manager, update sources list, install any upgrades; or from konsole, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[14:36] <psychoholic> ok umm does this install a few programs or just the one you said kdesu
[14:36] <ubuntu> okay
[14:36] <DaSkreech> ajmoulen: Ok Just checking on the Hey response :)
[14:36] <ubuntu> BluesKaj: I'll do that
[14:36] <BluesKaj> cool:)
[14:36] <psychoholic> it is done
[14:36] <DaSkreech> genii: Coffee?
[14:36] <ubuntu> gparted live cd
[14:36] <ubuntu> brb
[14:36] <timri> psychoholic: This does not install anything. This was just an update that got stuck some days ago.
[14:36] <psychoholic> ahhh i c
[14:37] <ajmoulen> DaSkreech: oh I still say hey about the comment that they are just former typewriter makers, but I guess it is true
[14:37] <Oldtoker> WaltzingAlong, NVM... I found it now..
[14:37] <timri> psychoholic: When aptitude has finished you should again be able to use adept if you want
[14:37] <Oldtoker> it's working.
[14:37] <Oldtoker> thanks again
[14:37] <psychoholic> cool so now i can use adept
[14:37] <WaltzingAlong> Oldtoker: sure thing!
[14:37] <DaSkreech> ajmoulen: My Mom has a IBM typewriter
[14:37] <psychoholic> cool thanks
[14:37]  * genii hands DaSkreech a large mug of coffee
[14:37] <ajmoulen> DaSkreech: cool
[14:37]  * timri Fell in love with the p75 (with plasma screen)
[14:37] <Oldtoker> Well it's time for bed for me.. I'm tired.. just got home from work..
[14:37]  * DaSkreech does his usual tricks to get himself to stomach coffee and takes a sip
[14:37] <Oldtoker> :)
[14:38] <psychoholic> i might just idle here awhile
[14:38] <Oldtoker> TTYL
[14:38] <genii> DaSkreech: :0
[14:38] <psychoholic> Thanks To Every One!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:38] <timri> psychoholic: you could also run "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" to update your system now :)
[14:39] <psychoholic> hmm ok i can do that....
[14:39] <NightBird> it still thinks there is a version upgrade available
[14:39] <cuco> hi, i need some help with compiz. for some reason my "cude" has only 2 sides and not "4"
[14:40] <psychoholic> do i need to do that often or will it work in adept?
[14:40] <timri> psychoholic: The updater from adept will do it automatically for you
[14:41] <ajmoulen> cuco: in the configuration window you need to add more desktops
[14:41] <psychoholic> well i ran that last one you sent me do i need to restart
[14:41] <timri> psychoholic: You see it after you logon: the green round thing next to the clock.
[14:41] <psychoholic> or just run adept
[14:41] <WaltzingAlong> Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ | cuco, check the wiki for the CUBE how to - or in the compiz channel
[14:41] <cuco> ajmoulen: i did that. in general serrings.
[14:41] <timri> psychoholic: No need to restart, you're ready and done :)
[14:41] <psychoholic> sweet thanks
[14:41] <ajmoulen> cuco: so under the k menu, go to settings, then Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[14:42] <ajmoulen> then in General Options
[14:42] <cuco> ajmoulen: i am running that application.
[14:42] <ajmoulen> Desktop Size
[14:42] <cuco> ajmoulen: and I horizontal size to 2, vertical 2, and number of desktop 4
[14:42] <ajmoulen> Horizontal Size 4, Vertical Size 1, Number of Desktops 1
[14:42] <ajmoulen> will make a normal cube
[14:43] <ajmoulen> the way you have it now you need to go up not just over
[14:43] <ajmoulen> your cube is 2 sided
[14:43] <ajmoulen> but 2 high
[14:43] <timri> For those young ones that have never seen an IBM  p75 before: http://www.starekompy.pl/p70.html
[14:44] <ehird_> anyone know where kde stores its sessions? mine crashes when restoring it so i want to rm it
[14:44]  * timri will now move to #kubuntu-offtopic
[14:44] <TheGateKeeper> !irssi
[14:44] <ubotu> Irssi is a terminal based IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help.
[14:44] <ehird_> :| it's pretty important.
[14:44] <ajmoulen> ehird_: you could just delete .kde all together
[14:44] <psychoholic> man i am glad i took the time to learn IRC it helps lots installing linux and such
[14:45] <cuco> ajmoulen: ok, thanks. i see what went wrong. but still, i try to setup 4/1/1 and when i close that that and enter back it gets 2/2/1
[14:45] <ajmoulen> ehird_: or just copy .kde out of the way then you can copy back your settings
[14:45] <ehird_> ajmoulen: yeah but i've already done that yesterday! i'm going to go in and disable the saving, but i want to keep my settings
[14:45] <ehird_> ajmoulen: so i'd rather know where in .kde it is
[14:45] <ScorpKing> there is also bitchx for cli irc
[14:45] <ajmoulen> ~/.kde/share/config/sessions
[14:46] <ehird_> thanks
[14:46] <ehird_> Just rm -rf that, right, ajmoulen?
[14:46] <ajmoulen> I think so
[14:46] <ehird_> OK. Thanks.
[14:47] <DaSkreech> or you know ... mv it incase bad thigns happen
[14:47]  * ScorpKing nods
[14:47] <jpatrick> DaSkreech: too late, mate!
[14:48] <DaSkreech> jpatrick: I know but .. for future refrence
[14:48] <ajmoulen> DaSkreech: for him bad things already happened, he can't log in
[14:48] <ScorpKing> i hope he does not have mail in kmail
[14:48] <jpatrick> ajmoulen: and now he may have trashed his ~ dir if he didn't know what he was doing
[14:48] <ajmoulen> session doesn't keep track of email
[14:48] <BluesKaj> oops , I looks like GParted requires cd media , K3B won't burn it to a dvd+rw
[14:48] <ajmoulen> that is in the kmail configuration
[14:48] <ScorpKing> oh ya.
[14:49] <ajmoulen> sessions only stores what applications were running when you shutdown, the location and size of those applications
[14:49] <ScorpKing> i thought he'd rm .kde/
[14:49] <ajmoulen> and if you are running kwin restores them to the appropriate location and size, under compiz just to the size
[14:50] <ajmoulen> ScorpKing: nope he asked which directory stored sessions, so I said ~/.kde/share/config/sessions
[14:50] <ScorpKing> i see now.
[14:50]  * ScorpKing hides..
[14:50] <WaltzingAlong> should be able to burn the cd iso to dvdr
[14:51] <ajmoulen> ScorpKing: same thing as I said to timri - It's Friday ;-)
[14:51]  * BluesKaj waits for ..."It didn't work!"
[14:51] <VSpike> !backup
[14:51] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[14:51] <timri> ScorpKing: it is the session directory (omit the s )
[14:51] <ScorpKing> true.
[14:51] <BluesKaj> WaltzingAlong, wellK3B wants a cd to burn it
[14:52] <ajmoulen> timri: my typing is horrible
[14:52] <ajmoulen> I definitely need to copy and paste
[14:52] <timri> ajmoulen: If he tries to remove that one, he'll still have his problem.
[14:52] <timri> he or she
[14:53] <ajmoulen> timri: you know it will be my fault
[14:53] <timri> ajmoulen: :)
[14:53] <DaSkreech> !cloning
[14:53] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[14:53] <DaSkreech> Sweet
[14:53] <TheGateKeeper> how do you tell irssi what nick you want to use?
[14:54] <Lynoure> TheGateKeeper: /nick newnicknamehere
[14:54] <ajmoulen> oh that is cool
[14:54] <Lynoure> TheGateKeeper: or permanently?  then type  /save  after that to save config
[14:54] <caoli> hello
[14:55] <caoli> any one can hear me?
[14:55] <Lynoure> caoli: yes.
[14:55] <WaltzingAlong> caoli: no but i can read what you have typed
[14:55] <caoli> haha
[14:55] <ehird_> whoever-it-was-that-helped-me-last-time
[14:55] <ehird_> didn't work.
[14:56] <ehird_> it still started 'em.
[14:56] <timri> ajmoulen: :)
[14:56] <ehird_> ah yes, ajmoulen.
[14:56] <ajmoulen> I know my fault
[14:56] <ajmoulen> did you fix my typo?
[14:56] <DaSkreech> !nick
[14:56] <ehird_> so, where exactly in system settings is the setting to disable it?
[14:56] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[14:56] <timri> ehird_: rm ~/.kde/share/config/session/*
[14:56] <ehird_> (or in ~/.kde/config)
[14:56] <ehird_> ajmoulen: yes, i did
[14:56] <timri> pfff
[14:56] <ehird_> ajmoulen: (fix your typo)
[14:56] <ajmoulen> it is ~/.kde/share/config/session not sessions
[14:56] <ehird_> yes
[14:56] <ehird_> i know
[14:56] <ehird_> i tab-completed it
[14:57] <ajmoulen> and you still couldn't log in?
[14:57] <ehird_> however it still did it, just the window positions/sizes weren't remembered
[14:57] <ajmoulen> did you get any errors?
[14:57] <ehird_> so, where in ~/.kde/config is the RestoreItAtStartupThing option?
[14:57] <timri> ehird_: system settings - settings manager 'always start with a new session'
[14:57] <ehird_> and no
[14:57] <ehird_> it just froze.
[14:57] <BluesKaj> is there a way to burn a cd image to a dvd+rw ?
[14:57] <ehird_> timri: that'd be good if i could get into system settings.
[14:57] <ajmoulen> ehird_: good question
[14:57] <timri> ehird_: rm ~/.kde/share/config/session/*
[14:57] <ehird_> i did that
[14:57] <ehird_> i already said that.
[14:58] <stdin> BluesKaj: yep, just do it like it's a dvd image (ie: select "burn DVD image")
[14:58] <timri> ehird_: sudo adduser newuser
[14:58] <TheGateKeeper> ok thanks Lynoure let me try that
[14:58] <uhlive> can someone help me with a bootsplash
[14:58] <ehird_> timri i am aware i could just remove my .kde however i do not wish to lose all of it
[14:58] <timri> ehird_: I understand, but using a new account will let you keep your old, while at the same time giving (perhaps) useful debug info
[14:59] <ehird_> timri; i've moved .kde to .kdeold
[14:59] <uhlive> anyone?
[14:59] <ehird_> so i'm in a 'green' kde right now
[14:59] <BluesKaj> cool stdin .... seems to be working :)
[14:59] <ScorpKing> uhlive: what is wrong with it?
[14:59] <ajmoulen> ksmserverrc
[15:00] <stdin> BluesKaj: I've had to do it a few times when I couldn't find a CD, so I know it works fine
[15:00] <ehird_> ajmoulen: how obvious
[15:00] <ehird_> :D
[15:00] <uhlive> scorpking well see my computer boots and then goes to the grub menu it says press esc to enter menu etc etc.. well then after that the computer screeen goes blank and i can't see anything until my login screen comes up..
[15:00] <ajmoulen> ehird_: of course it is ;-)
[15:01] <ajmoulen> ksmserver -> KDE Session Management Server
[15:01] <uhlive> scorpking i would at least like to see all the text and stuff
[15:01] <ScorpKing> uhlive: make the resolution lower in /etc/usplash.conf
[15:01] <ajmoulen> makes perfect sense ;-), of course that is if you can find the silly thing via a search
[15:01] <BluesKaj> right on stdin...looks like it worked
[15:01] <ScorpKing> uhlive: you don't have to reboot to test it
[15:02] <WaltzingAlong> uhlive: remove 'splash' from the boot menu entries; perhaps 'quiet' as well
[15:02] <uhlive> scorpking it is set to 1024 768.. shouldn't that be ok?
[15:02] <uhlive> waltzingalong what file would i edit?
[15:02] <ScorpKing> uhlive: press control+alt+f1 and login. run sudo usplash -c . to get back press control+alt+f7.
[15:03] <ScorpKing> uhlive: maybe 800x600 wil work.
[15:03] <uhlive> scorpking ok.. but should i set that conf file to 800 600
[15:03] <uhlive> ah ok.. hang on let me try taht
[15:03] <ScorpKing> yes
[15:04] <WaltzingAlong> uhlive: /boot/grub/menu.lst       find # defoptions=         then change it accordingly; save the file and update grub;  update-grub
[15:05] <uhlive> k i'm gonna try all that.. thanks guys
[15:05] <ScorpKing> uhlive: after all that go back to tty1 and see if there are any errors.
[15:05] <ScorpKing> uhlive: don't go
[15:05] <uhlive> tty1?
[15:05] <uhlive> i'm not leaving
[15:05] <ScorpKing> ok
[15:05] <ScorpKing> any errors?
[15:05] <uhlive> just giving thanks lol
[15:05] <boris> hh
[15:05] <ScorpKing> !usplash
[15:05] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[15:06] <uhlive> when i hit ctl alt f1 the screen changes but the text is HUGE i can't really read anything
[15:07] <ScorpKing> ah ok. WaltzingAlong's advice might help as well.
[15:07] <uhlive> k let me do that first
[15:07] <ScorpKing> i'll go look for the vga options
[15:08] <^kaminix> What's new in the Koffice update? :o It's not a new version is it?
[15:09] <uhlive> scorpking i think i found the problem with the huge text
[15:09] <ScorpKing> uhlive: ok. and? ;)
[15:09] <ehird__> YEARRRGHHH!!!!!
[15:09] <ehird__> I lost all my goddamn settings.
[15:09] <ehird__> For no reason.
[15:10] <ehird__> Stupid, STUPID KDE.
[15:10] <uhlive> gonna test it..
[15:10] <ajmoulen> by deleting the ksmserverrc?
[15:10] <ehird__> no.
[15:10] <ScorpKing> for the mv .kde .kdeold
[15:10] <ehird__> no.
[15:10] <ehird__> I fixed the ksmserverrc's session info,
[15:10] <uhlive> i think i can handle it from here.. i'll have to do some rebooting
[15:10] <ehird__> did a "mv .kde2 .kde"
[15:10] <ehird__> and then hard-rebooted so kde couldn't mess it up
[15:10] <ehird__> evidently, kde watches ~/.kde like a hawk and synchs it
[15:10] <ajmoulen> apparently kde doesn't love you today
[15:10] <ScorpKing> uhlive: http://wiki.arklinux.org/index.php/Changing_the_bootup_splash_screen
[15:10] <ajmoulen> ah yes
[15:10] <ehird__> now i'm wondering how i tell kde to start being a lazy ass
[15:11] <uhlive> thanks for all the help
[15:11] <ajmoulen> it loads a fair amount of information into memory
[15:11] <ScorpKing> uhlive: save that link.
[15:11] <ajmoulen> then writes it out on session close
[15:11] <ScorpKing> uhlive: you're welcome
[15:11] <ehird__> ajmoulen: yeah, but i pressed the reset button on my computer!
[15:11] <ehird__> how could it have a chance? it literally had its power cut
[15:11] <ajmoulen> well you don't, what you do is make sure you are not in an X session when you modify the kde files
[15:11] <ehird__> yeah
[15:11] <ehird__> well. :|
[15:11] <WaltzingAlong> ehird__: and the journaling filesystem restored to when?
[15:11] <ehird__> too late now
[15:11] <ehird__> all my settings: gone
[15:12] <ehird__> waltzingalong: it didn't, actually
[15:12] <ehird__> waltzingalong: fsck checked it and it was OK
[15:12] <ehird__> now, WHERE do I disable setting saving so I can stop this happening ever again
[15:12] <timri> ehird__: Perhaps Iam missing something, but where did the kde2 dir come from ? You didnt mention creating that one iirc
[15:12] <ajmoulen> what happens is that the files were open when you tried to copy under them, even though they looked right, you couldn't have changed them
[15:13] <ehird__> timri: I typo'd, when I said kdeold I really meant kde2.
[15:13] <ehird__> ajmoulen: I rm -rf'd .kde beforehand.
[15:13] <timri> ehird__: ok
[15:13] <ajmoulen> ehird__: if the file is open Linux will not really delete it
[15:13] <ajmoulen> it will just remove the reference you see
[15:13] <ehird__> ah, i see
[15:13] <timri> ehird__: So no "Stupid, STUPID KDE" :)
[15:13] <ehird__> Implementation details affecting outcome = fun fun fun
[15:13] <timri> ehird__: but I understand your frustration
[15:14] <Guest51592> !list
[15:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[15:14] <ajmoulen> what you do is you log out of kde and go to a terminal window to do this stuff
[15:14] <ehird__> timtri: indeed, settings spree time
[15:14] <ehird__> ajmoulen: yeah, but i was already in kde so i was lazy :P
[15:14] <timri> ehird__: :(
[15:14] <ajmoulen> ehird__: understood, but for future reference
[15:14] <ajmoulen> as to not saving the session there is a setting to either save the session or to allow you to save a session
[15:14] <ajmoulen> this will allow you to save a default good session and always start with that
[15:15] <Guest51592> !list
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[15:16] <timri> Guest51592: Adding a factoid ?
[15:16] <ehird__> ajmoulen: No True Good Session fallacy: it does this every time I boot up. :)
[15:16] <ajmoulen> ehird__: no no, you have to save a session you know is good
[15:16] <ajmoulen> you know with like konsoles and other minor things
[15:16] <ehird__> ajmoulen: EVERY session does this, you see
[15:16] <ehird__> ajmoulen: even just a konsole
[15:16] <ajmoulen> umm...
[15:16] <ajmoulen> then something else is wrong
[15:17] <ajmoulen> but if you want it to not do it at all you can go into kde
[15:17] <ajmoulen> go to system settings for kde
[15:17] <ajmoulen> under advanced, Session Manager
[15:17] <ajmoulen> choose Start with an empty session under On Login
[15:18] <jasonago> why do kubuntu gutsy still do not know how to play vcd??? It can't detect VCDs! And I think Feisty is better than gutsy...Gutsy even corrupted my usb drive! Font installer is also having problems when I browse files inside the media:/ protocol but when I browse inside /media/ (which is the same), it works...
[15:19] <ajmoulen> jasonago: so how do you really feel about Gutsy?
[15:19] <WaltzingAlong> jasonago: which program had you used with feisty to play the media?
[15:19] <ajmoulen> jasonago: what application can't do VCD?
[15:20] <timri> jasonago: Well, I think it does. Try kvdr with the vcd plugin
[15:20] <jasonago> why do kubuntu gutsy still do not know how to play vcd??? It can't detect VCDs! And I think Feisty is better than gutsy...Gutsy even corrupted my usb drive! Font installer is also having problems when I browse files inside the media:/ protocol but when I browse inside /media/ (which is the same), it works...
[15:21] <VSpike> bah - keep sucks
[15:21] <timri> jasonago: I already answered that it DOES.
[15:21] <timri> VSpike: rdiff-backup
[15:21] <jasonago> kaffeine can't play vcd...it crashes since feisty and now with gutsy...
[15:21] <tung> i can't start kdeinit
[15:21] <WaltzingAlong> !codecs | jasonago
[15:21] <timri> jasonago: sudo aptitude install kvdr vdr-plugin-vcd
[15:21] <ubotu> jasonago: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:22] <ajmoulen> jasonago: are you using compiz?
[15:22] <WaltzingAlong> !info vdr-plugin-vcd
[15:22] <ubotu> vdr-plugin-vcd: VDR Plugin for playing (S)VCD's. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7-31 (gutsy), package size 48 kB, installed size 160 kB
[15:22] <ajmoulen> with an ATI graphics card
[15:22] <tung> i use compiz-fusion
[15:22] <ajmoulen> compiz will cause xv to crash X
[15:22] <ajmoulen> if using XGL
[15:22] <jasonago> but there are reports since feisty of the same problem and I think there's really a problem...if kaffeine can't play, then there's a problem...
[15:23] <SpoZen> hi why does the manual come up when i try to mount an iso file?
[15:23] <SpoZen> sudo mkdir /media/iso
[15:23] <SpoZen> sudo mount -t iso9660 filename.iso /media/iso -o loop
[15:23] <SpoZen> ls -la /media/iso
[15:23] <timri> jasonago: If you wont at least try my suggestion, so be it. :)
[15:23] <tung> i install kde in ubuntu but can't start kdeinit
[15:24] <ajmoulen> tung: kdeinit?
[15:24] <ajmoulen> what is that supposed to do?
[15:24] <tung> to start kde
[15:24] <timri> ajmoulen: it is the process in KDE that start all the others
[15:24] <ScorpKing> !iso
[15:24] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[15:24] <timri> ajmoulen: it's a bit of a hack to improve performance
[15:24] <ajmoulen> timri: ah, too lazy to improve performance ;-)
[15:25] <SpoZen> thanks but isnt that the command i just showed ya?
[15:25] <ScorpKing> try is
[15:25] <ScorpKing> it*
[15:26] <timri> ajmoulen: No, those issues are beyond the control of KDE
[15:26] <tung> when I start KDE in Ubuntu, it says "Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation". What should I do?
[15:26] <ajmoulen> timri: no I am too lazy to improve performance on my machine, so i don't pay attention to these things
[15:27] <timri> tung: You installed the meta package "kubuntu-desktop" ?
[15:27] <ajmoulen> tung: did you install kde under ubuntu?
[15:27] <SpoZen> thanks
[15:27] <tung> Yes
[15:27] <ajmoulen> timri: looks like we are going to the same place
[15:27] <timri> ajmoulen: Ah, ok :)
[15:27] <timri> :)
[15:27] <ajmoulen> tung: so you installed kubuntu-desktop not just a pile of kde packages
[15:28] <ajmoulen> from a command line, try sudo apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
[15:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> tung: are you trying to launch kde from inside gnome?
[15:29] <timri> ajmoulen: it is called safe-upgrade nowadays, "upgrade" is the new dist-upgrade I think
[15:29] <tung> I can use KDE app inside GNOME
[15:29] <jasonago> also just a little prob, when creating numbered list or bulleted list in OpenOffice.org writer, it has this "field color" that wasn't present in earlier versions...I can't turn it off even in the configuration...now it looks like the page numbers with "field color" around them....
[15:29] <ajmoulen> timri: why do they break things like this, whose smart idea was that?
[15:29] <tung> but I can't start KDE session under Ubuntu
[15:30]  * timri shares ajmoulens sentiment
[15:30] <ajmoulen> timri: I left gentoo for crap like that
[15:30] <ajmoulen> heck through the years, I have left several distributions for stuff like that ;-)
[15:31] <ScorpKing> tung: you have to start a kde session from gdm/kdm
[15:31] <timri> ajmoulen: Yeah, the disregard for backwards compatibility is astounding
[15:31] <ajmoulen> tung: so when you are at the gdm login page you change your session to kde and while it is trying to start you get an error ?
[15:31] <tung> I start KDE session from gdm
[15:31] <jasonago> konqueror is also not functioning even in feisty unless I disable the cache although it is still very very slow and unbearable...Firefox do function without any glitches...I'm using a linuxant driver (free) and a dialup
[15:32] <ScorpKing> jasonago: it is a problem with knetworkmanager
[15:32] <tung> yes, I can't start KDE session
[15:32] <ajmoulen> jasonago: are you trying to carry forward old configuation files?
[15:32] <timri> jasonago: Try posing your statements more like specific questions, we can help you better that way.
[15:32] <ajmoulen> tung: you may need to reinstall the kde packages, I have seen that happen on a bad install before but not otherwise
[15:33] <ScorpKing> jasonago: klose knetworkmanager and it will work. because you use dailup and only have ppp0 and not eth* it thinks there is no default route so a lot of kde apps have no internet.
[15:33] <ScorpKing> close*
[15:33] <ajmoulen> tung: also did you have an old .kde directory you tried to move forward?
[15:33] <tung> I have installed kubuntu-desktop
[15:34] <ajmoulen> tung: unfortunately just removing and reinstalling that will not remove kde
[15:34] <ajmoulen> try running a kde app from within a terminal in gnome
[15:34] <ajmoulen> then check if kdeinit is started
[15:34] <tung> I see. The only thing I should do is to reinstall KDE. Right
[15:35] <ajmoulen> it may give you some ideas, also you could try startkde from within gnome and see what shows up in the terminal
[15:35] <ajmoulen> well I think you may need to figure out what is causing the failure and there should be some error message
[15:35] <tung> I can't use sudo apt-get install to install kdeinit
[15:35] <ajmoulen> so running startkde from a gnome terminal may give you some information that we may be able to help you with
[15:36] <ajmoulen> kdeinit isn't a package by itself
[15:36] <ajmoulen> at least I don't think it is
[15:36] <ajmoulen> what happens when you try typing kdeinit from a gnome terminal?
[15:36] <kuta> how to updates kubuntu?
[15:37] <VSpike> timri: looks like keep uses rdiff-backup in the background
[15:37] <stdin> kuta: see the topic
[15:37] <tung> I start KDE from GNOME terminal and the same error happens
[15:37] <timri> VSpike: Oops, didnt know that.
[15:38] <VSpike> me either :)
[15:38] <ajmoulen> but is that the only error?
[15:38] <VSpike> timri: as a UI, it sucks however.. so that's useful info as I'll try to just script rdiff-backup directly instead
[15:38] <ajmoulen> tung: that was toward you sorry
[15:39] <snake> hello
[15:39] <tung> when I type kdeinit in terminal, it says:
[15:39] <VSpike> timri: If I use rdiff-backup to an ntfs partition I'll lose ownerships and permissions, right?
[15:39] <tung> kdeinit: Shutting down running client.
[15:39] <B4S3M> i want to setup  HP 1020 printer on kubuntu
[15:39] <tung> ---------------------------------
[15:39] <tung> It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure
[15:39] <tung> that it is not already running, remove /home/tung/.DCOPserver_tung-desktop__1
[15:39] <tung> and start dcopserver again.
[15:39] <tung> ---------------------------------
[15:39] <tung> KDE Daemon (kded) already running.
[15:39] <tung> kbuildsycoca running...
[15:39] <tung> Reusing existing ksycoca
[15:39] <timri> VSpike: I have NO idee
[15:39] <stdin> !paste | tung
[15:39] <ubotu> tung: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:39] <snake> i have a problem. i opened a shell in kde but now everytime i restart the pc the shell reopens automatically. can anyone tell me how to remove it please ?
[15:39] <timri> VSpike: idea
[15:40] <timri> !pastebin | tung
[15:40] <VSpike> timri: heh thought you just lapsed into french for a moment
[15:40] <stdin> snake: exit the shell before you logout
[15:40] <snake> stdin: i tried
[15:40] <Nitz> guys
[15:40] <timri> VSpike: No, just icy hands
[15:40] <snake> i exit it anytime
[15:40] <snake> at the beggining
[15:40] <Nitz> kubuntu is very dificult for begining
[15:40] <ajmoulen> under the kde menu, do you have an option "save session"?
[15:40] <VSpike> timri: I can't see how it will preserve them ... tar could i guess but if it's just mirroring files it can't unless it tries to store all that stuff as metadata somewhere
[15:41] <Nitz> so how can i help to improve it and suggest bugs?
[15:41] <stdin> snake: manual way is system setting > advanced > session manager     set it to start an empty session
[15:41] <timri> VSpike: one sec
[15:41] <snake> stdin: thank you
[15:41] <snake> going to try now
[15:41] <timri> VSpike: ok, Iam back.
[15:42] <VSpike> timri: oh actually it does.. "rdiff-backup records file metadata in a separate file so that all information is preserved even if the destination file system is missing features."
[15:42] <timri> VSpike: Even if it preserves your permissions (I could think of some kludge using ACls for that) you will have problems with some filenames
[15:43] <downix_> I hate printer makers that supply Linux drivers that only work in 1 distro.....
[15:43] <timri> VSpike: I have some files with * ? etc in them
[15:43] <VSpike> yeah i need to reformat this external hdd to ext3 :)
[15:43] <B4S3M> how can i install  HP lasrjet 1020 printer ?
[15:43] <Downix> Does anyone know how to extract a printer driver out of an .rpm so that I can manually install it?
[15:44] <timri> Downix: rms ?
[15:44] <VSpike> Downix: alien?
[15:44] <VSpike> B4S3M: did you check the database at http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting
[15:44] <tung> ajmoulen: how can I set up knetworkmanager to run at startup
[15:44] <timri> VSpike: That's what I do.
[15:44] <Downix> don't know rms, and alien just tried to install it like a .deb, which doesn't add it to the driver list for cups.
[15:45] <timri> Downix: ignore me pls.
[15:45] <ajmoulen> tung: wouldn't it make sense to first get kde to start before worrying about knetworkmanager?
[15:45] <mdos> hello all
[15:45] <Downix> timri:  but you're so nice and helpful!  8)
[15:45] <timri> Downix: :)
[15:45] <tung> ajmoulen: because i can use KDE app inside Ubuntu
[15:45] <Downix> My thought was, could I un-archive the rpm to get at the driver file underneath, and install it through the "have driver" button of cups?
[15:46] <VSpike> tung: put a link into ~/.kde/Autostart
[15:46] <ajmoulen> tung: use gnome's network manager rather than kde's
[15:46] <ajmoulen> it is more complete anyway
[15:47] <VSpike> B4S3M: http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_1020
[15:47] <kuta> hi, after fectching updates in adept Manager, how to update my kubuntu to the latest patches?
[15:47] <ajmoulen> tung: if you haven't invested a lot into your system already, backup your home directory and reinstall kubuntu
[15:47] <ajmoulen> kuta: did you just fetch them? rather than install?
[15:47] <tung> ajmoulen: I think wicd is better than gnome network manager, but when I install kubuntu-desktop it force me to uninstall wicd
[15:48] <kuta> ajmoulen: fetch updates
[15:48] <timri> VSpike: To elaborate: my external backup drive also has a pristine kubuntu dapper install on it (separate partition), so that in case of disaster I can boot from it.
[15:48] <ajmoulen> kuta: on the bottom of the screen it should have install option
[15:48] <VSpike> timri: good idea
[15:48] <mdos> I have a little prb with amarok and wikipedia fr
[15:49] <mdos> If I use the fr locale the progress bar loops
[15:49] <mdos> and no info appears
[15:49] <mdos> it's work with other ( en , es ... )
[15:50] <mdos> somebody has already see that ?
[15:51] <ajmoulen> mdos: did you try in kubuntu.fr ?
[15:51] <timri> !fr
[15:51] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:51] <ajmoulen> err -fr, I always get that wrong
[15:51] <ajmoulen> I think I need to stop helping ;-)
[15:52] <mdos> everybody sleeping on kubuntu-fr :)
[15:52] <timri> mdos: Ask _4strO, he/she is from (around) strasbourg
[15:52] <mdos> oki
[15:53] <_4strO> mdos: exact
[15:53] <mdos> it's strange because it worked before
[15:54] <timri> mdos: You have to repeat your problem: _4strO just joined the channel, so he couldn't have heard you :)
[15:54] <_4strO> right !
[15:54] <mdos> I have a little prb with amarok and wikipedia fr
[15:54] <mdos> If I use the fr locale the progress bar loops and no infos appears
[15:54] <ajmoulen> timri: I picture you with a google map with the names of people pinned to it ;-)
[15:55] <VSpike> hehe
[15:55] <VSpike> and a white cat
[15:55] <mdos> can you test it 4strO ?
[15:55] <VSpike> wow, writing to usb hard drive is cpu intensive :/
[15:55] <NetersLandreau> how would one get kate's fish to work with a knock firewall?
[15:56] <mdos> I use amarok ver 1.4.5
[15:56] <timri> ajmoulen: Nope, I see the join/leave messages in konversation. Like me, _4strO is a wandoo/orange client, and they  include the some geographical info in the reverse dnsname (or whatever it is called ;))
[15:56] <mdos> someone can try to change the locale to fr and say me if the problem occurs ?
[15:57] <_4strO> mdos: i'm under 1.4.7
[15:57] <_4strO> but i will try
[15:57] <mdos> ok thx
[15:57] <mdos> I want to know if the problem come from me or if it's more general
[15:58] <timri> NetersLandreau: good question... :) I have no clue
[15:59] <timri> NetersLandreau: I doubt the fish kioslave supports knocking, though
[15:59] <_4strO> mdos: you speak fr ?
[15:59] <mdos> yes :)
[15:59] <NetersLandreau> thx timri
[16:02]  * timri if going. Bye everyone.
[16:11] <rafet> hello
[16:11] <rafet> how to install flash plugins?
[16:13] <raul> hla
[16:13] <raul> hola
[16:13] <raul> una cosa
[16:13] <raul> saveis cual es el programa
[16:13] <raul> de texto
[16:13] <raul> para kubuntu
[16:13] <raul> uno como el bloq de notas
[16:13] <raul> como el de window
[16:13] <raul> para pdoer modificar archivos php
[16:13] <raul> y demas
[16:14] <_4strO> !es
[16:14] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[16:15] <ajmoulen> rafet: install flashplugin-nonfree
[16:15] <_4strO> rafet: where do you want trhe plugin ...
[16:17] <rafet> adobe flash player 9
[16:17] <rafet> how to install kubuntu 7.10
[16:17] <Jucato> rafet: install "flashplugin-nonfree"
[16:19] <rafet> alt +f2 and run this command?
[16:19] <Jucato> rafet: no
[16:19] <rafet> help me please i am new on linux
[16:19] <Jucato> Go to K Menu -> Add/Remove Programs
[16:20] <rafet> yes
[16:20] <Jucato> then search for Flash there. mark the checkbox, and click on Apply Changes
[16:21] <rafet> i find
[16:21] <ajmoulen> it will be under the other category on the left
[16:22] <invite_> ubuntu
[16:22] <invite_> kubuntu
[16:22] <invite_> +++
[16:23] <rafet> thanks
[16:23] <invite_> you're welcome
[16:23] <rafet> now adept batch bussy for ubdate
[16:23] <rafet> when finished this time try it
[16:25] <rafet> #girne
[16:27] <invite_> KDE is cool
[16:28] <invite_> but MAc is cooler
[16:28] <Jucato> hmm
[16:28] <invite_> ==> KDE sucks
[16:28] <hydrogen> thats logical.
[16:28] <hydrogen> nothing like a MAc
[16:28] <invite_> compared to mac
[16:28] <Jucato> invite_: please stay on topic
[16:28] <Roey> KMac
[16:28] <invite_> ok guys
[16:28] <hydrogen> what he said.
[16:29] <invite_> don't want to get kicked
[16:29] <hydrogen> thens tay on topi
[16:29] <hydrogen> c
[16:29] <invite_> :)
[16:29] <invite_> just wanted to stimulate some of yours
[16:29] <invite_> and the best way to do that
[16:29] <Daisuke-Ido> is to troll?
[16:29] <invite_> is to attack kubuntu :)
[16:29] <Daisuke-Ido> like i said
[16:30] <Jucato> yes, you have successfully stimulated my kicking scripts
[16:30] <invite_> lol
[16:30] <hydrogen> ooh
[16:30] <hydrogen> you have aroused jucato
[16:30] <hydrogen> thats never good
[16:31] <invite_> So should I prepare myself to get Into The launchpad?
[16:31] <invite_> whixh by the way is awfull also
[16:31] <invite_> Im ready
[16:31] <invite_> now
[16:32] <Daisuke-Ido> invite_: you're not exactly inviting goodwill right now.
[16:33] <invite_> Nothing ...
[16:33] <hydrogen> so invite_... do you actually have a problem or are you looking for one
[16:33] <invite_> a little bit bored
[16:33] <invite_> since i have installed kubuntu
[16:33] <invite_> no more problems with my Pc
[16:34] <invite_> so the only thing that i have to do
[16:34] <invite_> is making problems
[16:34] <invite_> ...
[16:34] <invite_> Kubuntu made my life look like hell
[16:35] <invite_> no more joy
[16:35]  * hydrogen doesn't see this continueing for much longer
[16:35] <hydrogen> stay on topic, or leave
[16:36] <jhutchins> hydrogen: It's not like he's drowning out essential conversations.
[16:36] <hydrogen> jhutchins: that doesn't excuse it
[16:36] <hydrogen> the topic is the topic reguardless of what else is occuring
[16:37] <Jucato> rules are rules...
[16:37] <invite_> understood
[16:37] <Jucato> jhutchins: I've heard that argument a hundred times, and I can refute it a hundred times as well :)
[16:38] <jhutchins> Yes, but doing so is off topic.
[16:38] <hydrogen> what is it about people that feel the need to sound smart and in doing so only make themselves sound less intelligent..
[16:39] <invite_> So maybe that i can find a problem finally
[16:39] <invite_> It's not really a big problem
[16:40] <invite_> but when i launch a module
[16:40] <kristjan_> can someone confirm that adept no longer adapts the user's KDE style, colors and fonts?
[16:40] <invite_> Configuration module of KDE
[16:40] <invite_> like for example system services
[16:40] <Jucato> kristjan_: it should, unless you changed the users's theme
[16:41] <invite_> or monitor
[16:41] <invite_> & dispmlay
[16:41] <kristjan_> Jucato: something happened after recent update - adept no longer integrates into my desktop, uses kubuntu's default look
[16:41] <Jucato> kristjan_: apps that run as root (with sudo/kdesu) use a separate theme (the root user's theme). but it's configured to use the same default theme as the default users
[16:42] <invite_> the windows is always too small and the Administrator mode button along with the Cancel and ok
[16:42] <invite_> ones are always hidden
[16:43] <invite_> How can i change this behavior
[16:44] <invite_> even if I maxmize the windows then close them
[16:44] <invite_> the next time i open them they remain as described
[16:44] <kristjan_> Jucato: I think this is related to "libqt3-mt" - after the update there was an error and I had to "sudo dpkg --configure -a" http://hashbin.com/1627e.html
[16:45] <Jucato> kristjan_: I think I answerd Y (install package manager's version)
[16:45] <invite_> This is only happenig with Kde control Modules windows
[16:45] <kristjan_> Jucato: I answered N (default)
[16:46] <kristjan_> Jucato: can I rerun it and answer Y (to see if this caused adept strange behaviour)
[16:46] <kristjan_> invite_: run "kcontrol" - this version won't resize strangely
[16:46] <Jucato> kristjan_: I don't think so. but perhaps it works now. it might have not finished installing
[16:47] <invite_> So is this a common problem
[16:47] <invite_> ?
[16:48] <invite_> already listed in launchpad or kde bug tracking system...
[16:50] <kristjan_> invite_: not sure I understood your problem - do you mean this kind of resize? http://i14.tinypic.com/8bsem86.png
[16:52] <Thylio90> How do i accses my ntfs extern hdd?
[16:55] <nick_> I'm having major issues with Adept Updater. It won't update, sayin that there are broken packages.
[16:55] <invite_> I mean that kind of reseize : http://i17.tinypic.com/86sgc53.png
[16:55] <nick_> can anyone suggest anything?
[16:56] <nick_> I've tried
[16:56] <nick_> sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[16:56] <nick_> sudo apt-get update
[16:56] <nick_> but it doesn't work
[16:57] <kristjan_> nick_: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:57] <adam_> has anyone managed to or knows how to get the new creative zen player working under amarok?
[16:57] <kristjan_> invite_: heh, that looks broken, what style is it? qtcurve?
[16:57] <invite_> yes Qtcurve
[16:57] <kristjan_> invite_: does it happen with e.g. plastik or polyester style?
[16:57] <Thylio90> need some help. i cant mount my ntfs usb hdd
[16:58] <invite_> It's worst with plastik
[16:58] <invite_> the button are totally hidden
[16:58] <kristjan_> invite_: never happened to me, you should definitely file a bug report
[16:59] <jhutchins> adam_: There's an amarok specific channel, but be nice, the devs there are good people: #amarok
[16:59] <adam_> has anyone managed to or knows how to get the new creative zen player working under amarok?
[16:59] <adam_> oops ignore that >.>
[17:00] <invite_> Another thing that is strange is the power saving. If I enable it , keep using the computer and then
[17:00] <invite_> it's not working anymore
[17:01] <invite_> the screen doesn't turn black
[17:01] <kristjan_> invite_: define "not working"
[17:01] <invite_> iWhen i check the Power saving option i find it desactivated
[17:01] <invite_> The check box is not checked anymore
[17:02] <invite_> and the power saving by the way
[17:02] <kristjan_> invite_: really strange - works here
[17:02] <invite_> it's randomly happening
[17:02] <invite_> somtimes it last a day
[17:02] <invite_> sometimes 2
[17:03] <invite_> sometimes not even a hour
[17:03] <invite_> Last day i was doing a projection at school
[17:03] <kristjan_> invite_: can you post the output of "xset -q" in hashbin.com?
[17:03] <invite_> it was a movie i have disabled it
[17:03] <invite_> but the screen turned black after about 2 minutes
[17:04] <invite_> I have checked the power saving option and found it uncked
[17:04] <invite_> unchecked
[17:05] <invite_> when i switched to my gnome session
[17:05] <invite_> it worked fine
[17:05] <invite_> it was really disappointing
[17:06] <invite_> DPMS (Energy Star):  Standby: 60    Suspend: 60    Off: 60  DPMS is Enabled  Monitor is On
[17:07] <TheGateKeeper> ok on irssi I did /nick newnickname then did /save then restarted irssi and it restarted with the original user name, so how do I fix this?
[17:07] <jhutchins> invite_: Sometimes the settings in your BIOS will override the settings in Linux.
[17:08] <invite_> but it was working perfectly
[17:08] <invite_> with feisty
[17:08] <jhutchins> TheGateKeeper: Dunno, I run Konversation.  I suspect there's a manual, and probably a support channel where you can be told to read it.
[17:08] <invite_> and dapper
[17:08] <invite_> this issue happened when i upgraded to gusty
[17:08] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: ~/.irssi/config file
[17:09] <xultz> Hello guys. I have a original DVD and I wanto to make a backup copy, but K3B says that he could not get the CSS keys and failed to break the DVD protection. Is there anything I can do to make that copy?
[17:09] <Thylio90> when i try to mount my extern hdd i get "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000"  !?
[17:10] <invite_> and i think it will be hard to track as it is happening "randomly" even if I know that ther is certainly some reason
[17:11] <yan> hello all, problem : i have kubuntu (gutsy) and the language is set to canada (french), i have some document (actually .java) on a usb key and there is many é,è,à in the comments there, but they appear in kate and netbeans as ?(kate)  or square (netbeans), both r in utf8 and i tryed to change to every encoding in kate but this is not helping. thanks
[17:11] <timri> Thylio90: Page 4 and 5 on: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=473511
[17:13] <Thylio90> timri: thx
[17:13] <TheGateKeeper> thanks Jucato :)
[17:13] <timri> xultz: dd if=/dev/hdc of=mybackupcopy.iso
[17:14] <xultz> thank you timri, I will try it
[17:15] <timri> xultz: Note: you may need to use sudo, and your cdrom/dvd could be on another device than /dev/hdc
[17:16] <i00nsu_> this kubuntu is dificult to understand that slackware 3.0 jesus... joke ... why i cant make any software installation? every time I try ... ERROR :/ something wrong with the srver?
[17:17] <timri> i00nsu_: We need the exact error, please.
[17:17] <yan> hello all, problem : i have kubuntu (gutsy) and the language is set to canada (french), i have some document (actually .java) on a usb key and there is many é,è,à in the comments there, but they appear in kate and netbeans as ?(kate)  or square (netbeans), both r in utf8 and i tryed to change to every encoding in kate but this is not helping. thanks
[17:17] <i00nsu_> timi .. I will try to translate
[17:18] <BluesKaj> i00nsu_, http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[17:18] <i00nsu_> Amarok can't read mp3 :o
[17:19] <yan> you need a plug in
[17:19] <yan> didnt amarok asked you to download one?
[17:19] <BluesKaj> i00nsu_, sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[17:19] <invite_> i00nsu_:you have to install the proper codecs first
[17:19] <timri> yan: May be a problem with the mount. Please post the output of: cat /etc/mtab | grep media
[17:20] <i00nsu_> yan eyes .. but give me and error
[17:20] <yan> output : /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096 0 0
[17:20] <hydrogen> timri: eww
[17:20] <hydrogen> grep media /etc/mtab
[17:20] <hydrogen> much nicer!
[17:20] <timri> i00nsu_: sudo aptitude libxine1-ffmpeg
[17:21] <timri> hydrogen: It's a matter of taste. I like the consistency of the pipe'd one.
[17:21] <BluesKaj> sudo aptitude install libxine1-ffmpeg
[17:21] <hydrogen> timri: consistancy? whats consistant about using two commands over one
[17:21] <timri> BluesKaj: I SO pown you :)
[17:22] <hydrogen> with the exception of overcomplicating it..
[17:22] <timri> hydrogen: I can use the same syntax with data not from a file, eg ps aux | grep yada
[17:22] <yan> timri : /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096 0 0
[17:22] <hydrogen> timri: right, thats because ps aux isn't a file
[17:22] <BluesKaj> timri, ??
[17:23] <hydrogen> you can grep stdout or you can grep a file
[17:23] <timri> hydrogen: Well duh :)
[17:23] <hydrogen> it makes more sense to grep the file
[17:23] <hydrogen> then to put the file in stdout and grep that
[17:23] <timri> BluesKaj: I typed the exact same thing some seconds before you
[17:23] <timri> yan: Ah, there's a utf missing!
[17:23] <BluesKaj> err, you forgot "install"
[17:23] <timri> hydrogen: Whatever.
[17:23] <timri> BluesKaj: *blush*
[17:24] <BluesKaj> ppl copy and paste :)
[17:24] <yan> how i add it?
[17:24] <timri> BluesKaj: copy and paste from where :)
[17:24] <BluesKaj> from the channel text
[17:25] <BluesKaj> at least i do :)
[17:25] <timri> Anyone can help yan with the correction of his automount? It's not using utf and I have to go NOW!
[17:25] <timri> yan: sorry, something just came up :(
[17:25] <yan> automount + utf on gogole will dop it :)
[17:25] <yan> thanx
[17:33] <excitatory> alrigh, so i have a radeon 9600 with dual heads (VGA & DVI).  I want to add a second monitor to the dvi port and have a spanning or extra wide desktop.  someone told me not to use xinerama anymore and to look into randr 1.2.  i've searched around and everything i find is a bit confusing.. is there a coherent guide for setting this up?
[17:39] <i00nsu_> excitatory: i have an 9600 but never put it on, alot of errors and my secound monitor never works...
[17:40] <i00nsu_> be sure u have an non-old monitor :)
[17:41] <yan> i have 2 monitor , but i have a nvidia , and i use them with xinerama..
[17:41] <yan> but its configured by my official nvidia driver..
[17:42] <i00nsu_> well is not ati
[17:42] <i00nsu_> lots of ppl says well good about nvidia cards
[17:43] <yan> i heard ati didnt have good linux support... *im not an official source*
[17:44] <i00nsu_> well maby you right .. cause the installation drive present itself as an wrong drive
[17:45] <i00nsu_> for other distros work but is instable
[17:47] <i00nsu_> maby in two three years linux will be more compatible for win games an so on
[17:48] <i00nsu_> alien-arena have good playig hehe
[17:48] <Downix> i00nsu_: The irony is that Linux with Cedega can get more games running than Windows Vista can.
[17:48] <Downix> in my experience
[17:48] <Downix> admittedly, they're majority older games
[17:49] <i00nsu_> Cedega?
[17:49] <i00nsu_> hmmm never did heard about
[17:49] <yan> i think its a non free wine like app
[17:49] <Downix> It's a port of Wine with heavy focus on DirectX games.  $5 a month
[17:49] <i00nsu_> non free?
[17:49] <Downix> worth the $15 I've paid for it.
[17:49] <i00nsu_> :/
[17:49] <Downix> It can be free if you compile it yourself from the CVS tree
[17:49] <alunos> How are you?
[17:50] <emilsedgh> aah, that should be merged be wine :(
[17:50] <i00nsu_> $5 for month ?
[17:50] <i00nsu_> boas juninho
[17:50] <Downix> right, pre-pay for 3 months.
[17:50] <Downix> I pay for 3 months once a year to keep up to date and thats about it
[17:50] <i00nsu_> there is no way to pay for life tiime? :)
[17:51] <lordofthepigs> Hello! I'm trying to mount an ISO with "sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 myiso.iso /media/iso", but for some reason I can't get it to work
[17:51] <Downix> Wine runs quite a few, but they're not as fast to update specific game crashes.
[17:51] <i00nsu_> well but u can run lineage2 for exemple?
[17:52] <yan> google lineage2 + cedega.. i think ull find something
[17:52] <yan> i never used wine or cedega to play game since i only play on xbox360 :P
[17:52] <i00nsu_> yes, wine crash with most software
[17:52] <i00nsu_> lol yanb
[17:52] <lordofthepigs> the iso mounts fine with deamon tools on windows
[17:53] <yan> lord, i don't think anyone here is skilled enought to help you :(
[17:53] <lordofthepigs> dmesg has the following message "Unable to identify CD-ROM format"
[17:53] <yan> im new to linux so i can't.. sry
[17:55] <Downix> I run City of Heroes on Cedega.  It runs under Wine, but less stable
[17:55] <i00nsu_> but some software everyone can run with wine .. i have tryd Fruity Loops 7.0 and just a few samples wouldn't installed .. but is ok..
[17:56] <i00nsu_> hmmm.. good references... now I will google it
[17:56] <Downix> lordofthepigs: What format is the disk in?
[17:57] <lordofthepigs> well, iso9660, I suppose
[17:57] <lordofthepigs> how can I find out for sure?
[17:57] <Downix> hex view the file?
[17:58] <lordofthepigs> er... and how is that going to tell me which format it is in?
[17:58] <lordofthepigs> I read somewhere to use the file command
[17:58] <lordofthepigs> and it returns myiso.iso: data
[18:00] <Downix> well, if you know what the different file format headers are, you'll know that way
[18:03] <jim88> can someone point me in the right direction concerning getting floppies to read ... getting an error when I click on the desktop icon ... The desktop entry file /home/me/Desktop/Floppy Device is of type FSDevice but has no DEV=... entry
[18:06] <mallize> can anyone help me w/ gutsy?  i upgraded today and i can't get a windows decorator to work w/ compiz
[18:06] <mallize> .. i used to have beryl
[18:07] <clemenml> can anyone help me w/ gutsy?  i upgraded today and i can't get a windows decorator to work w/ compiz
[18:09] <mkz> I'd like to buy a USB bluetooth transceiver.  Can anyone recommend a good source to identify a product that is linux-compatible?
[18:10] <mkz> wow... never seen this channel so dead.
[18:10] <genii> dlink worked for me... I think model is blt122 or so
[18:11] <mkz> dlink?  ok, thanks
[18:12] <genii> dbt-122
[18:12] <jim88> can someone point me in the right direction concerning getting floppies to read ... getting an error when I click on the desktop icon ... The desktop entry file /home/me/Desktop/Floppy Device is of type FSDevice but has no DEV=... entry
[18:12] <genii> (had to go check :)  )
[18:14] <pablo__> hi
[18:14] <jim88> hi
[18:17] <ajmoulen> jim88: don't know the last time I had a floppy drive on a computer, but does the floppy drive show up in the kde devices list?
[18:19] <Xeross> Hey
[18:19] <Xeross> i need help with grub
[18:19] <Xeross> i installed fresh
[18:19] <jim88> ajmoulen under what list
[18:19] <Xeross> grub points to correct hdd and partition
[18:19] <Xeross> but cannot mount it
[18:19] <ajmoulen> kde system settings, advanced, disks or something like that
[18:20] <Gerrit> Hello. How do I tell my wireless card (Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG) to use 802.11b (11 mbit) rather than 802.11g (54 mbit)? If we change the mode in the router, I can no longer connect, but if we change it back, I can. Do I configure it with iwconfig or something like that?
[18:20] <ajmoulen> I think floppy drives should appear there
[18:20] <jim88> what's the command line entry lol
[18:20] <grim_reaper2001> is there a way in irssi to get different people to show up in different colours?
[18:20] <ajmoulen> jim88: under the kde menu, system settings, no idea what the command line is for it
[18:21] <jim88> one sec
[18:21] <Gerrit> I am using the ipw2200 network driver.
[18:21] <ajmoulen> Gerrit: if your router is set to B you should automatically connect to it without changing anything
[18:22] <ajmoulen> Gerrit: you shouldn't need to tell the system you want B rather than G unless you router continues to advertise G when it refuses to negotiate G
[18:22] <lordofthepigs> how can I find out the FS type of an iso?
[18:22] <lordofthepigs> well, a CD image, since I'm not sure it actually is an iso9660 image
[18:22] <jim88> ajmoulen I dont see it but have mounted it and it the light comes on but cannot access it ... I did check and have permission
[18:23] <ajmoulen> check under /media
[18:23] <ajmoulen> you may find the mounted folder there
[18:23] <jim88> it's listed as fd0
[18:23] <Gerrit> ajmoulen: If it's set to B, it won't connect. If it's set to G, it will.
[18:24] <ajmoulen> Gerrit: let me ask the obvious question, why would you force your router to B?
[18:24] <seezer> lordofthepigs: try `file /path/to/fiilename`
[18:24] <Gerrit> ajmoulen: Because 10 other wireless routers are using G in a range of 20m.
[18:24] <Gerrit> or perhaps a range of 40m
[18:24] <ajmoulen> jim88: not sure I understand the problem
[18:24] <Gerrit> ajmoulen: There is a lot of interference when we use G
[18:24] <jim88> I cannot access the contents of the floppy
[18:24] <ajmoulen> B and G use the same frequency
[18:25] <lordofthepigs> Ah, I just found it using a windows tool...
[18:25] <ajmoulen> A is what you would want if you want to use a different frequency
[18:25] <Gerrit> My neighbours claim that the internet works better with B.
[18:25] <lordofthepigs> it seems the filesystem type is Joliet
[18:25] <ajmoulen> they may just have a devices that is better at dropping crosstalk
[18:25] <Gerrit> Is it possible that we have less packet loss with B than with G?
[18:25] <lordofthepigs> so how can I mount that? mount -t joliet?
[18:26] <seezer> lordofthepigs: iso9660 should work if joilet support is in the kernel
[18:26] <ajmoulen> Gerrit: not sure
[18:26] <lordofthepigs> seezer: and is it by default?
[18:26] <ajmoulen> Gerrit: you could try manually setting the channel to something other than 11
[18:26] <lordofthepigs> I don't remember installing that explicitely
[18:27] <seezer> yes should be
[18:27] <lordofthepigs> seezer: Well for some reason, it still doesnt want to mount
[18:27] <nagyv> Hello! How can I find out if my ethernet card is wrong or just the config/modules/sw? I've a Compaq Presario 700 with a built-in ehternet card, according to lspci it's a Realtek 8139. But still I have no net over it
[18:27] <seezer> perhaps its a "freak" format of alcohol120% or whatever products exist out there
[18:28] <Gerrit> ajmoulen: ok
[18:28] <lordofthepigs>  sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 myiso.iso /media/iso doesn't work
[18:28] <lordofthepigs> this yields an "Unable to identify CD-ROM format" in the syslog
[18:29] <ajmoulen> Gerrit: the only thing that may make sense is that G is a little more sensitive then B, but once you connect it shouldn't matter anymore
[18:29] <ajmoulen> lordofthepigs: are you sure the image is good?
[18:29] <Gerrit> ajmoulen: Then perhaps my neighbours are mistaken.
[18:29] <lordofthepigs> ajmoulen: It mounts in windows with poweriso
[18:29] <Gerrit> I will discuss it with them.
[18:30] <ajmoulen> lordofthepigs: are you trying to mount a file off a fat32 partition or something like that in Linux?
[18:30] <lordofthepigs> nope, it's on a ext3 partition
[18:30] <kingmanto> ho un problema con hard disc esterno
[18:30] <jim88> ajmoulen:I cannot access the contents of the floppy
[18:30] <ajmoulen> did you try just mount -o loop myiso.iso /media/iso
[18:31] <ajmoulen> jim88: from /media/fd0 or from that KDE link?
[18:31] <lordofthepigs> [13:28] <lordofthepigs> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 myiso.iso /media/iso doesn't work
[18:31] <kingmanto> lo vedo ma non riesco ad aprire accesso negato
[18:31] <jim88> ajmoulen: from the KDE link
[18:31] <ajmoulen> lordofthepigs: notice the lack of -t iso9660
[18:31] <lordofthepigs> ajmoulen: If I don't use the -t iso9660 option, I get an "you need to specify the filesystem type" error
[18:31] <ajmoulen> lordofthepigs: it isn't recognizing the file type
[18:32] <jim88> ajmoulen:  media/fd0 does exist
[18:32] <ajmoulen> lordofthepigs: I mount iso files all the time, and never put a -t iso9660
[18:32] <lordofthepigs> ajmoulen: any idea what I can do?
[18:32] <ajmoulen> well if it works in windows burn it to CD would be my best suggestion
[18:33] <ajmoulen> jim88: if it is just the KDE link, then I would suggest just going direct to that directory from dolphin or whatever app you choose and forget the icon
[18:33] <lordofthepigs> bah, I'm trying to extract an ISO from my mounted image :)
[18:33] <lordofthepigs> we'll see what I get to with that...
[18:34] <jim88> ajmoulen:  I understand but there is nothing there and I know there is something on the disk
[18:36] <ajmoulen> jim88: from the command prompt when you do ls /media/fd0 you get nothing?
[18:36] <jim88> ajmoulen:  yes
[18:37] <ajmoulen> then you don't really have it mounted
[18:37] <lordofthepigs> ajmoulen: heh, it seems that my extracting the mounted image into another iso worked properly
[18:38] <jim88> ajmoulen:  I did mount -a
[18:38] <jim88> ajmoulen:  and got no errors
[18:38] <ajmoulen> type mount (do not paste it all here) do you see something specifically mounted to /media/fd0?
[18:39] <jim88> ajmoulen:  ok it gave me an error mddosfs
[18:41] <jim88> ajmoulen:  I changed fstab to auto and it gave no errors
[18:42] <jim88> ajmoulen:  now it works
[18:44] <jim88> ajmoulen:  thank you
[18:45] <ajmoulen> jim88: if anything I did was helpful you are welcome, sounds like you solved it on your own
[18:46] <chx> hi. Kopete can't connect to MSN. amsn can. I was able to connect to ICQ/AOL. Do not know whether it's related but this often (not always) happens after hybernation, ktorrent also seems to have problems. i did a /etc/init.d/networking restart.  is there any KDE specific networking service i need to restart? I run Gutsy.
[18:51] <patricio> what could be the reason, why knetworkmanager suddenly stops looking for active interfaces? seems like hotplug is down
[18:52] <patricio> but when I restart, nothing changes: No w-lan accesspoints show up, and if i plug in the ethernet cable, there is no automatic dhclient'ing
[18:52] <patricio> I can only go for manual network configuration in knetworkmanager
[18:53] <patricio> this all started when I first killed knetworkmanager and set ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> just because I only needed point to point there for accessing a newly bought router (so no dhcp there)
[18:55] <patricio> actually I think, this is knetworkmanager, clicking on "manual configure" doesn't let pop up any window ... :I
[18:55] <patricio> kNetworkManager 0.2
[18:58] <jim88> ajmoulen:  no, you helped ... just thankful you guys are here
[18:58] <patricio> knetworkmanager seems blind, it doesn't even detect, that I'm in here (ethernet, dhcp)
[18:58] <patricio> help :)
[19:00] <patricio> what input do you need, to better help me?
[19:04] <dthacker-work> patricio, why not use System-->Settings?
[19:04] <pacman> is there any particular reason why Kubuntu keeps freezing on me?
[19:05] <dthacker-work> pacman: you will need to provide more information than that.
[19:05] <pacman> it does it especially after I've been trying to add stuff in Adept
[19:06] <pacman> it'll just freeze, and I'll have to restart
[19:06] <patricio> ....... hmpf
[19:07] <dthacker-work> pacman: not sure, I am also having a
[19:07] <dthacker-work> Adept issues
[19:08] <yan> pacman, if u use aptitude is it freezing?
[19:08] <yan> or do you use the adept_manager? (GUI)
[19:08] <pacman> you mean sudo apt-get?
[19:09] <yan> there sudo apt-get and sudo aptitude
[19:09] <pacman> I use both....been using adept since I'm just setting up my new HD
[19:09] <yan> does sudo apt-get freeze kde?
[19:09] <pacman> no, it doesn't
[19:09] <yan> so only the gui does right?
[19:10] <pacman> yeah
[19:10] <yan> well i have some issu with the adept_manager (gui) 2.. so i started to use sudo apt-get
[19:10] <yan> i look in adept_manager for the package i want
[19:10] <yan> then download/install them trought apt-get
[19:11] <yan> if u absolutely need a GUI to do that then type in console sudo apt-get install synaptic
[19:11] <pacman> I guess I'll start doing that
[19:11] <yan> when it's installed, type synaptic
[19:11] <yan> its another package manager
[19:11] <pacman> synaptic is the Gnome version of adept, right?
[19:12] <yan> ewww i just started to use linux so i cant tell u
[19:12] <ardchoille> pacman: yes, but a lot of folks think synaptic is much better
[19:12] <pacman> I've never tried it, though my g/f has ubuntu on her box
[19:12] <yan> you could try it
[19:13] <ardchoille> pacman: I hate GTK apps, but I use synaptic when I need a gui for package management.
[19:13] <pacman> opening it now
[19:13] <ardchoille> Kinda says a lot
[19:14] <ardchoille> pacman: Synaptic?
[19:14] <pacman> yes
[19:14] <ardchoille> pacman: I'd like to make one suggestion wrt synaptic
[19:15] <pacman> okay
[19:15] <ardchoille> When it opens, click on Settings > Preferences and make sure the option "Show package properties in the main window" is checked.
[19:15] <ardchoille> That will get you a nice "package explanation" in the main window
[19:19] <yeniklasorr> Who got worked Ati radeon x1600 successfully? I have problems with beryl and tv capture card. Can you help me?
[19:22] <dthacker-work> I think I found the offending packages.  libsmclient, samba-common, and smbclient refuse to update via adept.  Everything else is applied.
[19:28] <pacman> okay, now I'm having an audio issue
[19:30] <pacman> hmm...vlc issue...works fine in mplayer
[19:30] <_Angelus_> use amarok ;p
[19:32] <ubuntu> Please help me :D I'm on kubuntu 7.10 live cd at the partitioning phase, I chose manual. How can I set the swap space?
[19:33] <_Angelus_> ubuntu simple
[19:33] <ubuntu> How?
[19:33] <_Angelus_> create a partition double the size of you're ram and choose to use as swap
[19:33] <_Angelus_> :)
[19:33] <ubuntu> allright
[19:33] <ubuntu> 2048
[19:33] <_Angelus_> yeah
[19:33] <ubuntu> but how do I choose it as swap?
[19:33] <_Angelus_> and select to use as swap
[19:34] <ubuntu> how to select?
[19:34] <ubuntu> there comes some box
[19:34] <_Angelus_> from were you select the size
[19:34] <ubuntu> ok
[19:34] <_Angelus_> yeah
[19:34] <_Angelus_> you have an option in that box
[19:34] <ubuntu> do I write "swap" in it or?
[19:34] <_Angelus_> use as:
[19:34] <_Angelus_> no
[19:34] <ubuntu> ok
[19:34] <_Angelus_> it's a drop down box
[19:34] <ubuntu> umm
[19:34] <ubuntu> ext3?
[19:34] <_Angelus_> you can select the filesystem type
[19:34] <_Angelus_> no
[19:34] <_Angelus_> swap
[19:34] <_Angelus_> not ext3
[19:34] <ubuntu> oooooooohhhkdjglkdjgldkfgj
[19:34] <ubuntu> lol :D
[19:34] <_Angelus_> you have a choice called swap
[19:34] <ubuntu> thanks alot!
[19:34] <_Angelus_> hehe
[19:34] <_Angelus_> xD
[19:34] <ubuntu> understood :D
[19:35] <_Angelus_> then make a partition and use it as /
[19:35] <ubuntu> I made the ext3 and / now
[19:35] <ubuntu> then swap
[19:35] <_Angelus_> i recommand making another to partitions, one as /boot and the other as /home
[19:35] <_Angelus_> *two
[19:35] <ubuntu> Well I'll make: windows, media, swap and a kubuntu
[19:35] <_Angelus_> oh
[19:36] <The_Machine> i have an xvid i'm trying to watch with Kaffeine and the video is all weird
[19:36] <_Angelus_> why would you do media on a separate partition?
[19:36] <ubuntu> well when windows crashes, then I can reinstall it without problems
[19:36] <ubuntu> by media I mean videos etc
[19:36] <The_Machine> i'm not sure how to troubleshoot it w/ linux
[19:36] <_Angelus_> oh
[19:36] <The_Machine> it's obviously a codec problem
[19:36] <The_Machine> but i've played other divx files on here just fine.
[19:37] <_Angelus_> ubuntu then why don't you make /home as a separate partition and save you're media in you're /home/user so if you format youre computer you won't loose you're programs settings and you won;t loose you're media :)
[19:37] <ubuntu> ummm
[19:37] <ubuntu> then I cant read it from windows
[19:38] <ubuntu> well I just want to make partition for media, isn't it ok? :P
[19:38] <ubuntu> "no root file system is defined"
[19:38] <ubuntu> how do I define it?
[19:38] <The_Machine> you have to basiclaly put it somewhere
[19:38] <The_Machine> how about /
[19:39] <The_Machine> it can't be blank
[19:39] <ubuntu> it worked! :D ty
[19:39] <ubuntu> yea
[19:39] <ubuntu> figured it out
[19:39] <The_Machine> :)
[19:39] <jamesarthur> hi, anybody get cryptsetup luksformat to work? i can't..........     :(
[19:39] <The_Machine> but wait
[19:39] <The_Machine> before you do that
[19:39] <The_Machine> i don't know if you want to do what you're doing
[19:39] <The_Machine> i know what you want to do
[19:39] <The_Machine> shared 'media' space
[19:39] <The_Machine> between both operating systems
[19:39] <ubuntu> I already did
[19:39] <ubuntu> yea
[19:39] <_Angelus_> ubuntu you must choose a partition with mount point /
[19:39] <The_Machine> but why are you putting it at root?  (/)
[19:39] <ubuntu> yeye
[19:40] <The_Machine> nm
[19:40] <The_Machine> you're high or something.
[19:40] <ubuntu> The_Machine: I haven't created the media partition yet
[19:40] <The_Machine> oh, then you're just installing it
[19:40] <ubuntu> I'm trying to create it afterwards
[19:40] <ubuntu> yea
[19:40] <The_Machine> and then you'll make your media partition later
[19:40] <The_Machine> okay :)
[19:40] <The_Machine> heh
[19:40] <ubuntu> thanks for trying to help! :)
[19:40] <The_Machine> thanks fine then :)
[19:40] <The_Machine> lol
[19:40] <ubuntu> I appreciate it
[19:40] <ubuntu> Formatting
[19:40] <_Angelus_> ubuntu listen , create swap , create the root file system and use it as / , then creat the media partition and mount it at /media/data for example and choose ntfs as partition for it ;0
[19:40] <ubuntu> i love the live cd <3 irc and formatting in a same window!
[19:41] <The_Machine> :)
[19:41] <The_Machine> yeah, tha'ts awesome
[19:41] <ubuntu> _Angelus_: I'll create the media afterwards
[19:41] <_Angelus_> well you can create it afterwards too
[19:41] <_Angelus_> just leave enough space
[19:41] <sfire_> ubuntu type /nick and you can get a nickname also :)
[19:42] <Eicca> oh ty :D
[19:42] <_Angelus_> btw ubuntu i would recomand installing windows first, and instaling kubuntu after, because windows re-writes the boot manager so you will have to boot into the livecd again and re-install grub after installing windows
[19:42] <Eicca> _Angelus_: thats what I've done
[19:42] <_Angelus_> oh
[19:42] <_Angelus_> ok
[19:42] <_Angelus_> :p
[19:42] <Eicca> :)
[19:43] <Eicca> I'm just trying to figure out how to create media partition, put the media from windows partition to media partition, and then resize the windows partition
[19:43] <Eicca> seems like a hard task, since partition magic 8 wasn't able to do it :/
[19:43] <BluDog_Anchorite> any idea why i am getting a 403-forbidden when trying to run updates today ?
[19:44] <BluDog_Anchorite> all the updates for samba today for dapper are getting 403'ed
[19:44] <Eicca> this Konversation seems like cool :P
[19:44] <Eicca> and the whole kde
[19:44] <jamesarthur> Sysinfo for 'jamespc': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMDAthlon64X2DualCore5200+ at 1000 MHz (2005 bogomips), , RAM: 527/1772MB, 138 proc's, 25.41min up
[19:45] <Eicca> Sysinfo for 'ubuntu': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU<EMAIL_ADDRESS>at 1600 MHz (3726 bogomips), , RAM: 997/1010MB, 134 proc's, 3.53h up
[19:45] <nosrednaekim> wow... thats a low freq X2... how old it is
[19:45] <Eicca> pwnt joo :D
[19:45] <nosrednaekim> umm how did you get that?
[19:45] <Eicca> I wrote /sysinfo
[19:46] <nosrednaekim> i'll pwn everyone..
[19:46] <Eicca> :P
[19:46] <nosrednaekim> Sysinfo for 'geebee': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-50 at 800 MHz (1601 bogomips), HD: 38/84GB, RAM: 868/877MB, 127 proc's, 2.17h up
[19:46] <BluDog_Anchorite> failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/smbfs_3.0.22-1ubuntu3.4_i386.deb  403 Forbidden
[19:47] <Rukus> my xorg process is running twice
[19:47]  * freqmod_nx too
[19:47] <Rukus> is there a reason
[19:47] <nosrednaekim> BluDog_Anchorite: try switching mirrors
[19:47] <Eicca> omg "Installing system: 82%"!
[19:47] <BluDog_Anchorite> nosrednaekim: while I appreciate the suggestion, I could have done that on my own.  I am asking why, or if anyone else is having a similar issue with that mirror
[19:47] <Rukus> i have two xorg processes.  why?
[19:48] <sfire_> BluDog_Anchorite: yes.. same here... but you probably already knew that
[19:49] <nosrednaekim> BluDog_Anchorite: for some general info on 403 errors ...http://www.checkupdown.com/status/E403.html
[19:50] <ardchoille> BluDog_Anchorite: I just did "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" and didn't get any errors.
[19:50] <BluDog_Anchorite> ok, well I just didn't want to have to re-do mirror lists on all my servers
[19:50] <BluDog_Anchorite> i'll try that
[19:50] <BluDog_Anchorite> brb
[19:50] <nosrednaekim> BluDog_Anchorite: you should run a local apt mirror if you have more than two or three computers.
[19:51] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: Any tutorial on that? I have 11 computers in my home
[19:51] <sfire_> in your home :o
[19:51] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: yeah.. just a sec
[19:51] <sfire_> o.O
[19:52] <nosrednaekim> sfire_: 13 here:D
[19:52] <sfire_> here I thought I was a nerd
[19:52] <ardchoille> lol
[19:52] <nosrednaekim> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.howtoforge.com%2Flocal_debian_ubuntu_mirror%3Ftopic%3D306349&ei=4PQ9R6qICoeSpwTMy_TACg&usg=AFQjCNHVE8_eg7akGtAO1KPhSuXxWjgQpA&sig2=62yPc8DUdOldCrb85x1yLg
[19:52] <sfire_> nothing compared to you guys... I only have 4.. and I consider that to be a few too many
[19:52] <nosrednaekim> pardon the google redirect ;)
[19:52] <sfire_> I could easily virualize a few
[19:52] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: ty
[19:57] <jeroenvrp> samba
[19:58]  * BluesKaj wonders if ardchoille has 8 siblings :)
[19:58] <jeroenvrp> on the windows-site people must fill in username/password, but samba is set to anonymous; what can be wrong!?
[19:59] <jeroenvrp> on commandline at localhost works
[19:59] <jeroenvrp> firewall is open
[19:59] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: I have 4 if that makes the abundance any better :D
[20:00]  * BluesKaj feels deprived , we only have 2 :)
[20:01] <BluesKaj> did have 3 , but donated one to the seniors dropin center
[20:01] <nosrednaekim> lol
[20:01] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: No, 11 coputers.. controlling various aspects of the house functions :)
[20:02]  * genii gets ardchoille a complete X10 home automation system for his birthday
[20:02] <ardchoille> genii: That's what we already use :)
[20:02] <ardchoille> Not many people know about those
[20:02] <ardchoille> Perl scripts ftw
[20:03] <BluesKaj> beleiev it or not there was an old about 75 , who immediately loaded debian sarge on it ..an old electronics guy , who used to have a repair business and had been into computers since around 1975 or so
[20:03] <genii> heh
[20:04] <genii> BluesKaj: Those old electronics guys know stuff. scary stuff like how to get your ham radio working inside a Faraday cage, etc
[20:04] <ardchoille> lol
[20:04] <BluesKaj> hehe yeah , genii :)
[20:05] <Eicca> hello
[20:05] <nosrednaekim> hello
[20:05] <Eicca> succesfully installed <3
[20:05] <BluesKaj> computers running house functions ardchoille ...sounds like avery hi tech house
[20:05] <nosrednaekim> Eicca: kubuntu?
[20:05] <Eicca> Kopete just wont work
[20:05] <Eicca> yea
[20:05] <Eicca> 7.10 :)
[20:06] <nosrednaekim> Eicca: whats wrong with it..
[20:06] <Eicca> damn those "debian" texts
[20:06] <Eicca> looks like lesbian
[20:07] <BluesKaj> genii, lotsa old houses were faraday cages , plaster lath with the embedded chicken wire in the walls...try running wireless in one of those :)
[20:07] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: its possible
[20:07] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: slow though :D
[20:08] <Eicca> nosrednaekim: http://i.servut.us/i/kopete_error.png
[20:08] <BluesKaj> wired works for me , cat5 thru the snake channels I built under the floors for other media , years ago
[20:09] <Eicca> even the screenshot taking is made so easy in kubuntu ^
[20:09] <Eicca> ^^
[20:09] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: yeah, but my dad doesn't like drilling hole everywhere for13 cimputers :D
[20:10] <nosrednaekim> Eicca: that doens't really help, what were you trying to do with kopete?
[20:10] <BluesKaj> we fished lines
[20:11] <zblach> hey all
[20:11] <nosrednaekim> hey zblach
[20:11] <zblach> anyone have samba working as a gobetween with ubuntu and vmware?
[20:11] <Eicca> nosrednaekim: while connecting to msn
[20:11] <nosrednaekim> Eicca: ah... run allof your system updates.
[20:11] <nosrednaekim> *all of
[20:12] <Eicca> nosrednaekim: ok
[20:12] <Eicca> just running
[20:12] <nosrednaekim> Eicca: it was a bug in the release version of kdelibs
[20:12] <Eicca> "Upgrading Kubuntu to version 7.10" <- lol?
[20:13] <Eicca> nosrednaekim: ok
[20:14] <MilitantPotato> !kdepim
[20:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdepim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:15] <ardchoille> MilitantPotato: What do you need to know about kdepim, I use it and may be able tohelp
[20:15] <MilitantPotato> I'm curious what it is :)
[20:15] <ardchoille> MilitantPotato: I assume it is Kontact
[20:15] <nosrednaekim> MilitantPotato: it is called "Kontact"
[20:16] <MilitantPotato> ah, I marked akregator for removal and it said kdepim needed to be removed aswell
[20:16] <ardchoille> MilitantPotato: akregator is a module of kontact
[20:16] <ardchoille> MilitantPotato: Have you used kontact?
[20:16] <MilitantPotato> no.
[20:16] <MilitantPotato> I've just opened it though
[20:17] <ardchoille> It's quite nice
[20:17] <MilitantPotato> kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action.
[20:17] <MilitantPotato> is that a common error when running it?
[20:18] <MilitantPotato> very cool application
[20:21] <Eicca> hmm
[20:22] <Eicca> 403 forbidden
[20:22] <nosrednaekim> Eicca: mirror problems?
[20:22] <Eicca> how can I change it?
[20:22] <Eicca> yea
[20:22] <nosrednaekim> Eicca: try switching mirrors
[20:22] <nosrednaekim> use columbia
[20:22] <Eicca> how?
[20:23] <polo2> I have the same error with the lasts 3 news actualisations and my native language is spanish
[20:23] <polo2> 403 forbidden
[20:23] <nosrednaekim> Eicca: Adept->adept->manage repositories
[20:23] <nosrednaekim> uhh oh...i'm seeing something coming here...
[20:24] <Eicca> to what do i change these :P
[20:24] <nosrednaekim> Eicca: leave all the check marks.. marked as they were.
[20:24] <BluesKaj> zblach, try  typing smb:/ in konq , doen't work in FF and I dunno about IE in VMWare
[20:24] <Eicca> ok, I changed to "Main Server"
[20:24] <zblach> it works fine in konq
[20:24] <nosrednaekim> Eicca: try using columbia as I KNOW that works.
[20:25] <zblach> i'm just having trouble accessing my samba shares from vmware
[20:25] <Eicca> nosrednaekim: I'll try the main first
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> ok
[20:25] <BluesKaj> yeah , vmware does that
[20:25] <zblach> it does
[20:25] <zblach> well, it should
[20:26] <zblach> shared on my vmachine shows only itself
[20:27] <BluesKaj> zblach, you may have to run the network wizard in windows/vmware
[20:28] <Eicca> I'm creating a Guest account, what privileges should I give to it?
[20:28] <Eicca> I don't want it to be able to log as root
[20:28] <Eicca> or change settings
[20:28] <nosrednaekim> Eicca: then just leave the settings as default
[20:29] <Eicca> okay
[20:29] <Eicca> cool
[20:29] <zblach> BluesKaj: it's an issue of vmware being unable contact the outside network
[20:30] <polo2> What can I do with 403 forbbiden error?
[20:30] <nosrednaekim> Eicca: did switching mirrors help your 403?
[20:30] <BluesKaj> yes, i had the same problem ... trying to configure networking  vmware is harder than doing it in linux
[20:30] <Eicca> yea :)
[20:31] <Eicca> thanks
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> polo2: switch mirrors
[20:31] <Eicca> Main server still works
[20:31] <Eicca> Or atleast if you use English as language
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> :D
[20:31] <BluesKaj> zblach, what's the issue that you need to use vmware to connec to the net
[20:31] <Eicca> lol "could not commit updates"
[20:32] <Eicca> still succesfully completed
[20:32] <Eicca> umm
[20:32] <Eicca> what ever
[20:32] <Eicca> kopete goes
[20:32] <nosrednaekim> weird
[20:32] <Eicca> yea
[20:32] <nosrednaekim> does kopete work now?
[20:32] <Eicca> I think that the 3 last updates wasnt so important
[20:32] <Eicca> testing
[20:32] <polo2> mirrors 0k. My native language is spanish but I understanded. Thanks.
[20:32] <Eicca> yea works
[20:32] <Eicca> thanks again :D
[20:33] <Eicca> polo2 I ment if you can download spanish language packets from the Main Server
[20:33] <Eicca> what ever
[20:35] <Eicca> where can I check if my gfx card drivers are installed or not?
[20:35] <nosrednaekim> Eicca: "restricted-manager-kde
[20:35] <nosrednaekim> or systemsettings->advanced->restrictedmanager
[20:37] <Eicca> ok
[20:37] <Eicca> downloading
[20:37] <Eicca> :)
[20:37] <Eicca> next stop: Wine
[20:37] <Eicca> needs computer restart
[20:37] <Eicca> brb
[20:38] <ardchoille> Eicca: Wait
[20:38] <ardchoille> Eicca: Did you just install graphics drivers?
[20:38] <Eicca> yea
[20:38] <ardchoille> Don't need to reboot for that
[20:38] <Eicca> ?
[20:38] <Eicca> oh
[20:38] <Eicca> then what? =)
[20:39] <ardchoille> Just need to restart xorg:  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[20:39] <Eicca> ok
[20:39] <Eicca> ty
[20:39] <nosrednaekim> Eicca: save anything you have open before you run that;)
[20:39] <ardchoille> Eicca: Rarely do you need to reboot Linux
[20:39] <Eicca> okay
[20:39] <Eicca> cool
[20:39] <Eicca> the kubuntu booting is kinda slow
[20:40] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: Glad you caught that, I'll make sure to say that in the future
[20:40] <nosrednaekim> Eicca: that was probably just the first boot
[20:40] <nosrednaekim> i'm down to 45 seconds here
[20:40] <Eicca> ok
[20:40] <Eicca> oh yea
[20:40] <Eicca> the first boot must be slower
[20:40] <ardchoille> Naturally
[20:40] <nosrednaekim> thats 45 seconds to a usable desktop... about 30 seconds to KDM
[20:40] <ubuntu> Hi guys, I'm in the Live CD (7.04), and its because my system got ruined, I can't start up normall anymore. At the time that the Graphical login window appears, only thing that happens is that the kubuntu startup bar appears, it's empty and it isn't moving, when I press the power button on my computer then the bar starts to get to decrease and the computer shuts off
[20:41] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: you can go "ctrl+alt+f1" and see the boot up logs and have the ability to log in from the command line
[20:41] <mastermanx2005> is thier a way to get some one ip with kubuntu
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> mastermanx2005: what do you mean?
[20:42] <Eicca> nosrednaekim: whats the partition tool for kubuntu?
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> !partitions
[20:42] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[20:42] <mastermanx2005> like getting some one ip adress
[20:42] <mastermanx2005> cuz i know cmd netstat -n u can do
[20:42] <nosrednaekim> mastermanx2005: check out "whois"
[20:43] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim , whats the point in logging in from command line, i somehow managed to do that, but I can't even imagine what that would do to solve the booting problem
[20:43] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: its probably X..
[20:43] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim , Ok, is it possible to fix X :)?
[20:43] <ardchoille> ubuntu: There's a wealth of things you can do with that, like cat file, sudo apt-get install/remove, top, screen, etc
[20:44] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: you can run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and then "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[20:44] <nosrednaekim> and if it fails,it will tell you why
[20:44] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim , is there any way to do that without leaving the LIve CD :) ?
[20:44] <icheyne> hi all. I am trying to "apt-get upgrade", but I am getting "403 - Forbidden" errors from http://security.ubuntu.com. What is going on?
[20:45] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: no
[20:45] <nosrednaekim> icheyne: switch to the main us mirror
[20:45] <icheyne> nosrednaekim: do you know why it's broken?
[20:45] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim , those commands are spelled right right?, I'll writte em down and try
[20:46] <ardchoille> nosrednaekim: Can't he use mount and nano to fix his xorg.conf?
[20:46] <urbmen> I am having trouble installing Unreal tournament 2004 on Kubuntu can any one tell me how to do it
[20:47] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: yeah, they are right.
[20:47] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: IDK what the [problem is... easier to do a dpkg-reconfigure
[20:47] <ardchoille> true
[20:47] <ubuntu> nosrednaekim , Thanks alot, I'll try that, so I press ctrl+alt+f1 after I get stuck?
[20:47] <nosrednaekim> yeah.
[20:48] <nosrednaekim> maybe ctrl+alt +f2 it sometimes depends
[20:48] <urbmen> its got the linux installer on disk one but I have no idea how to install it
[20:48] <ubuntu> cya soon :)
[20:48] <icheyne> nosrednaekim: I am using http://security.ubuntu.com - isn't that the main mirror?
[20:49] <nosrednaekim> icheyne: yes, and its broken, try the main us one, or anything else.
[20:49] <urbmen> !.sh
[20:49] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[20:50] <eicca> why do I need to use "Automatic Image Adjustion" on my view sonics VA903b every time the kde starts?
[20:50] <eicca> and that command didnt work
[20:50] <eicca> had to reboot
[20:50] <nosrednaekim> eicca: it probably got messed up by the boot splash
[20:51] <alucardromero> Anybody have any experience with Atheros wireless cards?  They give me mad loads of diarrhea.
[20:51] <eicca> nosrednaekim: yea, but it gets every time I open it
[20:51] <nosrednaekim> alucardromero: yalp.. got one.
[20:51] <eicca> can I change the resolution of the splash?
[20:51] <alucardromero> How did you get yours to work?
[20:52] <urbmen> does anybody play unrela tournament 2004
[20:52] <nosrednaekim> alucardromero: default driver ussually works, when it doesn't I use ndiswrapper
[20:52] <urbmen> unreal*
[20:52] <nosrednaekim> alucardromero: what chipset have you got?
[20:52] <icheyne> thanks nosrednaekim
[20:52] <alucardromero> Celeron 530
[20:53] <nosrednaekim> alucardromero: no... I mean which atherso chipset?
[20:53] <nosrednaekim> alucardromero: "lspci"
[20:54] <puzzud> hey guys, what's up with the "Forbidden" message when I try to download http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/libsmbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb
[20:54] <alucardromero> Oh... um, ...
[20:54] <alucardromero> 06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[20:54] <nosrednaekim> eww.... 5006
[20:54] <alucardromero> Yeah.
[20:54] <nosrednaekim> alucardromero: use ndiswrapper :D
[20:54] <alucardromero> Do I blacklist the restricted driver?
[20:54] <eicca> nosrednaekim: can I change the resolution of the splash screen to 1280x1024?
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> eicca: hrm...not sure.... you can change its res, but i'm not sure how high.
[20:56] <eicca> k
[20:56] <dthacker-work> puzzud: don't know, I'm getting it too.
[20:56] <dthacker-work> I must have forgot to register ;)
[20:56] <puzzud> yea, and I was really happy to do a online upgrade
[20:57] <arash> nosrednaekim , Yay, that commando worked, I was ubuntu recently
[20:57] <nosrednaekim> arash: ok.. sweert
[20:57] <puzzud> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/libsmbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb and similar files are all dated for today
[20:57]  * dthacker-work left his coffee in the break room.....
[20:58] <puzzud> created/uploaded
[20:58] <puzzud> is it possible someone didn't set the correct group access rights on them?
[20:58] <arash> nosrednaekim: well, one thing for both of us, maybe you shouldnt tell newbies to type \ sudo dpkg/reconfigure xserver/xorg . non of what said there maid sense
[20:58] <eicca> nosrednaekim: is there a virtual machine available on kubuntu? some that could run windows xp
[20:58] <nosrednaekim> eicca: virtualbox
[20:59] <nosrednaekim> arash: well, if you go with the defaults,you are good :D
[20:59] <arash> but restarting x worked, but not my keyboard layout is changed , and also, I wonder if my ATI drivers is uninstalled now, can I upgrade to 7.10
[20:59] <arash> nosrednaekim , I just pressed esc out of scareness >D
[20:59] <eicca> nosrednaekim: is it good?
[21:00] <nosrednaekim> arash: your ati drivers are probably still installed, but not being used
[21:00] <nosrednaekim> eicca: excellent
[21:00] <nosrednaekim> eicca: youneed over a gig of ram though..
[21:00] <eicca> nosrednaekim: I like the sound of that :P
[21:00] <eicca> Well I have 1 gig
[21:00] <eicca> in windows the microsoft virtual machine worked fine
[21:00] <nosrednaekim> ok... you should be good then
[21:00] <nosrednaekim> ok
[21:01] <nosrednaekim> eicca: you will have to reinstall WindowsXP into it
[21:02] <eicca> nosrednaekim: I know
[21:07] <nosrednaekim> eicca: you aren't going to be playing any games in it though.
[21:08] <eicca> I know that too ;)
[21:08] <nosrednaekim> eicca: this your first time using linux?
[21:08] <eicca> umm no
[21:08] <arash> nosrednaekim , why can't you play games in a virtual machine?
[21:08] <nosrednaekim> I ask...cause I want to stop assuming that you know nothing..
[21:08] <nosrednaekim> ok.. good XD
[21:09] <eicca> I know just very little :P
[21:09] <eicca> arash you'd need a very fast computer
[21:09] <nosrednaekim> arash: no 3d acceleration
[21:09] <eicca> at all?
[21:09] <eicca> what about for example java games
[21:09] <eicca> that has a little 3d
[21:09] <arash> nosrednaekim: can I  play 10/13 year old games if I got a very good graphics card :p?
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> eicca: only what can be done on your CPU
[21:10] <eicca> umm ok
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> I play games in 'virtual' machines all the time.
[21:10] <eicca> For example runescape?
[21:11] <drarem> ok so i have glade and anjuta, now what...
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> arash: actually, anything more than 5-6 years old will play decently
[21:11] <eicca> I want to run macro on it
[21:11] <puzzud> is anyone here a kubuntu dev?
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> C64, amiga, Dosbox,  ect..  and all the mame games.. :0
[21:11] <drarem> on glade, the menu shows up in the middle of the window maximized, like any button or image control I add to it
[21:11] <drarem> it's confusing
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> eicca: don't know what that is.
[21:11] <arash> nosrednaekim: sounds interesting, I'll keep the name of it in mind :)
[21:11] <eicca> nosrednaekim: www.runescape.com
[21:11] <slow-motion> re
[21:12] <eicca> but yea
[21:12] <eicca> I have to go to sleep
[21:12] <nosrednaekim> puzzud: they hang out over at #kubuntu-devel
[21:12] <eicca> thanks alot guys and see you!
[21:12] <puzzud> nosrednaekim: thx
[21:12] <nosrednaekim> drarem: wrong channel for glade.
[21:12] <drarem> heh, don't have channel operator access to #glade
[21:13] <nosrednaekim> drarem: try #ubuntu-motu
[21:14] <drarem> thanks :)
[21:14] <nosrednaekim> or #ubunt-devel
[21:14] <nosrednaekim> or #gnome
[21:14] <drarem> cool
[21:26] <BluDog_Anchorite> well, aparently the 403 errors are a known issue.  Looks like i will have to wait until they fix the updates.
[21:40] <KDEusr> synaptic transaction set check failed
[21:40] <KDEusr> anyone know why?
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> check is in the mail?
[21:41] <Dr_Willis> :)
[21:42] <ardchoille> hahaha
[21:43] <Henkie> hi, my kdm doesnt recognize my default kde
[21:44] <Henkie> where is the setting responsible?
[21:44] <Henkie> it always start gnome
[21:44] <Henkie> starts
[21:44] <jpatrick> Henkie: in session menu press kde
[21:44] <Henkie> jpatrick, yeah, but it doesnt remember
[21:45] <jpatrick> hmm
[21:45] <ardchoille> I thought kdm rememberd the last session and set it to default
[21:45] <Henkie> same here, but it doesnt
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> the users have a .dmrc file (i think) that it saves it in.
[21:46] <Dr_Willis> some times that file gets the wrong permissions and cant be saved
[21:46] <Henkie> ah, sounds about right
[21:46] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: my ~/.dmrc file says:  Session=default
[21:46] <sn00zer> Henkie: check this forum: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/27155-making-kde-default-session.html
[21:46] <Henkie> i moved my home dir to another uid because of winbind
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> ardchoille change it to kde then. :) or just delete the file
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> it will remake it next time you liogin
[21:47] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[21:48] <Henkie> alright, i'll try it at work tomorrow
[21:48] <arash> Hi, I try to upgrade to Gutsy, but I get this error after a short while http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44807/
[21:50] <WaltzingAlong> arash: should comment out those anyway since they are for feisty and you are on gutsy now
[21:52] <arash> WaltzingAlong: huh? Im on 7.04 now, I want to upgrade to 7.10, and during that installatioon with adept it hangs and says that those 3 lines are the problem
[21:53] <ardchoille> arash: What he meant was that if you are upgrading *to* Gutsy, you shouldn't have any Feisty repos enabled
[21:53] <arash> ardchoille: ah OK :), what acction should be taken
[21:53] <arash> ?
[21:54] <ardchoille> arash: as WaltzingAlong mentioned, comment out all the Fesity repos
[21:54] <arash> ardchoille: /etc/sources ?
[21:54] <ardchoille> arash: But, there's a better way to upgrade
[21:54] <ardchoille> !upgrade | arash
[21:54] <ubotu> arash: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[21:54] <Henkie> how do i get rid of dash?
[21:55] <Henkie> because it kinda annoys me
[21:55] <ardchoille> !info dash
[21:55] <ubotu> dash: The Debian Almquist Shell. In component main, is required. Version 0.5.4-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 85 kB, installed size 208 kB
[21:55] <ardchoille> Well, that description helped a lot
[21:55] <arash> ardchoille: huh?, not through the KDE applications?
[21:55] <Henkie> :)
[21:55] <Henkie> i kinda said i couldnt  :P
[21:55] <Henkie> i -> it
[21:55] <BluesKaj> arash, upgrading from launchpad ?
[21:55] <ardchoille> arash: I was under the impression that the gui upgrader took care of that for you
[21:56] <arash> BluesKaj: I followed the steps that were mentioned in the channels topic
[21:56] <arash> in the link in the channels topic *
[21:56] <ardchoille> amaranth.. I recognise that word from somewhere
[21:57] <MaTiAz> Nightwish?
[21:57] <arash> ardchoille: hmm, maybe I should comment em out manually?
[21:58] <ardchoille> arash: I would. /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:59] <Henkie> kde printing seems not to work, but printing from a gnome app does work
[22:00] <Henkie> what can be the problem?
[22:00] <ardchoille> arash: Where did you get those sources from anyway (amaranth)?
[22:01] <arash> ardchoille: dunno, :p, probably some manual told me too :)
[22:01] <arash> ardchoille: u know where they are from?
[22:02] <ardchoille> arash: Ok, the only reason I asked is because those sources are missing the "component"
[22:02] <sn00zer> i'm using beryl (i know its outdated) but aquamarine crashed and now all the window decorators disappeared from the list except gtk\
[22:02] <sn00zer> any clue as to what happened?
[22:02] <arash> ardchoille: u use 7.10 ?
[22:02] <ardchoille> arash: Yes
[22:03] <arash> ardchoille: hehe, Im gonna be enjoying KDE 3.5.8 anytime now :D
[22:03] <ardchoille> It's nice. I had my doubts about upgrading, but I'm glad I did. Kubuntu ROCKS!
[22:04] <arash> ardchoille: hehe, well, cya , it tells me to close down all programs,
[22:04] <ardchoille> ok
[22:04] <sn00zer> anyone?
[22:04] <MilitantPotato> my wife keeps getting 403 forbidden messages trying to upgrade samba via synaptic or adept, anyone else having this problem?
[22:05] <ardchoille> !beryl | sn00zer
[22:05] <ubotu> sn00zer: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[22:05] <ardchoille> MilitantPotato: Might be a problem with the repos.. althought it isn't often, it's known to happen
[22:05] <sn00zer> i know know.... upgrade...
[22:05] <Daisuke-Ido> MilitantPotato: about everyone's having the problem
[22:06] <MilitantPotato> Ok, atleast it's not a local issue :)
[22:06] <Daisuke-Ido> ardchoille: right now it seems very widespread
[22:06] <ardchoille> Daisuke-Ido: Ah, ok
[22:06] <Daisuke-Ido> but i have faith it will be restored to glory shortly
[22:07] <sn00zer> is the compiz in the fiesty repos the same as compiz-fusion?
[22:07] <MilitantPotato> are you using amaranth's repo?
[22:08] <sn00zer> talking to me MilitantPotato?
[22:08] <MilitantPotato> yea
[22:08] <sn00zer> i doubt it, i'm using the default repos
[22:08] <MilitantPotato> is compiz included in the feisty repos now?
[22:08] <BluesKaj> hmm, seems to me only certain countries are having repository/install-update probs , but not all. I haven't seen it in .ca repos ...but the prob could be package dependent
[22:08] <ardchoille> !info compiz
[22:08] <ubotu> compiz: OpenGL window and compositing manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu1.1 (gutsy), package size 30 kB, installed size 64 kB
[22:09] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: No problems here (http://archive.ubuntu.com/blah)
[22:10] <sn00zer> well there's compiz, compiz-core, compiz-dev, compiz-extra, compiz-gnome, compiz-gtk, compiz-kde, and compiz-plugins under aptitude but could that be the old compiz?
[22:10] <arash> dang
[22:10] <arash> same problem, but new sources
[22:11] <arash> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44813/
[22:11] <ardchoille> arash: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ? I'll have a look
[22:11] <arash> any ideas?
[22:11] <ardchoille> arash: That looks like the same issue others are having right now
[22:12] <arash> oh, so theres nothing to do about it :< ?
[22:13] <ardchoille> Not at the moment
[22:13] <tilt> I'm a new user of Kubuntu and it's the first time that i wanna install a prog wich isn't on Add/Rem prog. How i'm supposed to do that?
[22:14] <arash> ardchoille , then Im gonna be an Vista user until the CD's arrive :(
[22:14] <ehird`> tilt: First you must flip the magnetic quantum flux of your soul.
[22:14] <arash> tilt , have you tried adept-manager?
[22:14] <ehird`> tilt: Then, you must reinforce the portal to exemplify its positive/negative output points.
[22:14] <tilt> yes... the prog is not in..
[22:14] <ehird`> tilt: Then, you must start konsole and type "sudo apt-get install PACKAGENAME".
[22:14] <ehird`> Actually you only have to do the last bit.
[22:14] <tilt> nice thx i take this in note
[22:15] <ardchoille> ehird`: That's not helping
[22:15] <ehird`> ardchoille: Hey! I did help. ... eventually
[22:15] <ardchoille> hehe
[22:16] <myrdos> How can I tell what the dungeon I'm in is called?
[22:16] <myrdos> Like "gnomish mines" or "sokoban"
[22:16] <myrdos> Is there a way?
[22:17] <Daisuke-Ido> huh?
[22:17] <arash> well, thanks anyway :)
[22:17] <BluesKaj> ardchoille, this one is ok, http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/
[22:18] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: Ah, thanks
[22:18] <tilt> E: Couldn't find package poweriso.tar.gz
[22:18] <tilt> where the package should be?
[22:19] <ehird`> tilt: don't install from a tar.
[22:19] <ehird`> tilt: try 'sudo apt-get install poweriso', failing that google for ubuntu packages
[22:19] <BluesKaj> tar files are normally not listed in repositories that adept and synaptic use
[22:20] <ehird`> failing that, get dirty with the command line and compile it yourself with that tar
[22:20] <BluesKaj> not impressed with the latest version of poweriso
[22:21] <tilt> have  you another prog that read .daa?
[22:21] <BluesKaj> it's hacked from the windows app
[22:21] <ehird`> BluesKaj: does it use WINE? :|
[22:21] <ehird`> if so i wish they didn't say it supports Linux. Ive seen loads of things saying 'Supports linux too, with WINE!' and I just think 'no. just no.'
[22:22] <BluesKaj> dunno , ehird` ..using kiso or k3b
[22:22] <tilt> k3b do not open it
[22:22] <BluesKaj> the older vesions of acetoneiso were good
[22:23] <BluesKaj> but not the newer ones
[22:24] <Greenery> i cant update samba from the current update, something about commiting
[22:24] <BluesKaj> ehird`, tilt , I used poweriso in windows and it was clunky
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> ive herad of some others with similer issues Greenery - i think there may be a bug in the updates
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> Greenery may want to try again in a day or so
[22:25] <Greenery> okies
[22:26] <raylu> is it just me or is http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/libsmbclient_3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb giving a 403?
[22:26] <raylu> as is all architectures of that one file, but nothing else
[22:26] <ardchoille> raylu: At the moment, several users have reported that problem.
[22:27] <raylu> ok, thanks
[22:27] <slow-motion> n8
[22:30] <MilitantPotato> Gnome is currently my login manager, how do I set KDE to handle it?
[22:31] <ardchoille> MilitantPotato: /etc/X11/default-display-manager  ?
[22:32] <MilitantPotato> /usr/sbin/gdm
[22:32] <MilitantPotato> change it to /usr/sbin/kdm ?