[00:00] <Ben64> i'd suggest reinstalling xubuntu, from an actual cd or dvd
[00:00] <Jordan_U> jay_: I understand that, but that doesn't make #ubuntu an appropriate place to vent. This channel is for support, and having it cluttered with other discussion hinders that (and prevents people from specifically wanting to look back at all of your many messages to see what has and hasn't already been tried, because there's so much extraneous reading needed).
[00:00] <jay_> i don't have a live CD sorry Ben
[00:00] <jay_> I understand Jordan_U
[00:00] <mulkits> Ok. So I am using wireless now on my PC via my Android phone which connects to the house wifi.
[00:01] <mulkits> I plugged the phone in and engaged the "tethering" function
[00:01] <jay_> I can reinstall Xubuntu. I know my md5 matched and is good
[00:01] <mulkits> And it worked without any other configuration
[00:01] <jay_> does it matter that I didn't have it plugged into ethernet while installing?
[00:01] <Ben64> jay_: i'd really recommend getting a blank cd/dvd and installing that way. you seem to have a lot of problems with usb install
[00:01] <mulkits> That shouldn't matter
[00:01] <eeee> jay_: follow what Jordan_U suggested... the integrity check
[00:02] <jay_> eeee: do you mean the md5? i already checked that
[00:02] <jay_> I don't know how to check a USB stick for stability though
[00:02] <Jordan_U> jay_: You haven't checked your flash drive though.
[00:02] <eeee> no, it's a check on the usb/cd itself with the iso installed in it
[00:02] <jay_> ohhhh
[00:03] <jay_> how is this done?
[00:03] <Jordan_U> jay_: You do that by selecting the integrity check option that is (hopefully) in the LiveUSB's boot menu.
[00:03] <user1_> I cannot see any wifi network connectivity options. I am only able to connect by wired ones. the wireless option is grayed up. What can be the reason?
[00:03] <jay_> ohhh that thing. i've done that before but will load it on and do it again
[00:04] <irssi> hello, I am looking for experience feedback on installing ubuntu on Western Digital hard drives with the advanced format. Problem or not?
[00:04] <eeee> jay_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck
[00:04] <eeee> jay_: i think you have to press a key while it boots to access the menu
[00:05] <jay_> ok. you know i have Xubuntu right?
[00:05] <eeee> i think ubuntu boots straight into the "try ubuntu" or "install ubuntu" window if you dont press anything
[00:05] <jay_> that's for regular ubuntu. is that going to be different?
[00:05] <eeee> yeah i know, it should be the same though
[00:05] <jay_> okies cool
[00:06] <jay_> ok i'm loading on the USB again with Unetbootin
[00:07] <jay_> then, i'll go and check it on the other pc. the integrity check
[00:07] <jay_> then, i'll likely come back and complain somemore (but only if there's a problem and i need help  :)
[00:08] <jay_> i wish i could be like, Linux rocks! everything just worked for me!
[00:08] <jay_> maybe soon eh?
[00:08] <Jordan_U> jay_: Be sure that you're running the check on the machine you plan to install to.
[00:08] <jay_> i will Jordan_U
[00:09] <user1_> I cannot see any wifi network connectivity options. I am only able to connect by wired ones. the wireless option is grayed up. What can be the reason?   $ lspci -nn | grep 0280           08:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0036] (rev 01)
[00:11] <jay_> Unetbootin said it might not have finished correctly. i'm going to try LiLi USB Creator instead
[00:12] <Jordan_U> jay_: What was the exact error message? This may be related to the problems you've been having.
[00:13] <jay_> i dunno now cause i closed it. i'm trying it with LiLi USB Creator. it says this version isn't in it's library but will try to install with similar parameters
[00:13] <wooter> user1_: i'd try install a driver http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2103062
[00:13] <user1_> hm
[00:14] <user1_> isnt there a package that has all the drivers?
[00:15] <jay_> Jordan_U: it says "This Linux is not on the compatibility list. However, LinuxLive USB Creator will try to use same install parameters as for Xubuntu 14.04 "Trustu Tahr" (Xfce)"
[00:16] <PurpleHaze> jay_ you having problems with secure boot?
[00:16] <jay_> is there a different program for creating a bootable usb that is really good for linux?
[00:16] <jay_> not that i know of PurpleHaze
[00:16] <eeee> PurpleHaze: not what is going on here, he can't install any packages after a fresh install.
[00:16] <Sunstream> wow
[00:16] <jay_> I've already tried Pendrive, Unetbootin and LiLi USB Creator
[00:17] <Glorfindel> use rufus if you are on windows jay_
[00:17] <Zerodeamon> yumi
[00:17] <Glorfindel> I've never had a problem
[00:17] <Sunstream> I could not close Firefox i had to do ctrl+alt+prtsc and the code to reboot
[00:17] <jay_> they all are kinda stupid programs in the way that, they don't use the parameters from the ISO, they use the ones in their internal list
[00:18] <jay_> oh i tried Yumi too zero
[00:18] <jay_> I just forgot about it
[00:18] <jay_> yumi worked for some older distro's but not for newer ones
[00:18] <ajf> I’m trying to mount a VirtualBox Guest Additions dir
[00:18] <eeee> Sunstream: the desktop crashed or just firefox?
[00:18] <ajf> But
[00:18] <Jordan_U> jay_: What is the md5sum of your iso?
[00:18] <ajf> When I mount it, it’s root-owned
[00:18] <jay_> already checked it Jordan
[00:18] <ajf> What do I do so my user can use it?
[00:19] <Jordan_U> jay_: I want to know what it is to be sure what image you're using.
[00:19] <PurpleHaze> jay_ sou you cant install anything? Have you tried clearing the apt cache?
[00:19] <eeee> ajf: run the installer with sudo
[00:19] <eeee> it needs sudo anyway to install i think
[00:20] <jay_> ae446659057ee49e57773bf446398856
[00:20] <ajf> that’s not what I need help with
[00:20] <jay_> that's fro winmd5free
[00:20] <jay_> from*
[00:20] <JetPackKittens> hello
[00:20] <jay_> PurpleHaze: I'm a newb. i don't know anything about the terminal commands
[00:20] <ajf> eeee: I’m mounting something. It’s mounted as root:root, I want it mounted as my user
[00:21] <Jordan_U> jay_: What is the file named? (I'm trying to figure out why these tools don't recognise it as being Xubuntu 14.04).
[00:21] <PurpleHaze> jay_ sorry Ive come in mid support , whats the problem you have?
[00:21] <jay_> I have an understanding of how booting works, how computers work, and about the general concepts of linux (like the package management that gets verified before going into the repositories), but terminal commands are gibberish to me
[00:22] <jay_> file name is xubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64
[00:22] <eeee> ajf: run chown <user> <folder> to change the permissions
[00:22] <jay_> problem is my wifi doesn't work and the cause is apparently, that I can't install anything at all
[00:23] <jay_> like synaptic for example
[00:23] <Jordan_U> jay_: That's the correct name too, so I don't know why the tools aren't recognising it.
[00:23] <PurpleHaze> jay_ during the install?
[00:23] <jay_> I dunno Jordan_U lol i seem to have problems here than no one else has ever had before
[00:23] <eeee> ajf: nevermind
[00:24] <jay_> try it yourself maybe Jordan_U?
[00:24] <jay_> i don't think it's just my pc? i've downloaded Unetbootin and LiLI USB Creator in different ocassions
[00:24] <ajf> I’m mounting something. It gets mounted as root. How do I mount it as my user?
[00:25] <ajf> Mounting with “mount”, that is
[00:25] <jay_> i'm pretty sure the software isn't up to date with current version even though it says it is
[00:26] <PurpleHaze> jay_ so your trying to get isolinux to boot from a usb ?
[00:26] <jay_> If there is another way to make a USB bootable i'd be happy to explore it.
[00:26] <eeee> ajf: you can edit the fstab
[00:26] <ajf> eeee: That the only way? Anyway, it doesn’t matter now
[00:26] <PurpleHaze> jay_ isolinus/syslinux
[00:27] <jay_> When one guy helped me, he told me the problem is that the syslinux and isolinux the installer use aren't from the ISO image. he said they're from a database that the software has. it could be outdated and that could be why it doesn't recognize the newer versions of distro's
[00:27] <jay_> I'm trying to get a ISO to boot from a USB
[00:27] <PurpleHaze> jay_ what you using (unetbootin?) what iso you using?
[00:27] <Jordan_U> jay_: Are you still waiting for one of these tools to finish?
[00:28] <jay_> file name is xubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64 (ISO)
[00:28] <jay_> nope i'm not waiting on anything
[00:28] <jay_> just advice hehe
[00:28] <Jordan_U> jay_: Did one of the tools finish?
[00:28] <guest0292> Just wondering if ubuntu amd-64 bit packages are compiled to take full advantage of the registers on a 64bit cpu.  I'm using AMD E-300 APU (64 bit) with Lubuntu 13.06 amd-64 and to be honest it's really slow and freezes up when firefox, inkscape, pinta and pcmanfm running together.
[00:28] <jay_> Unetbootin or LiLi. i have both downloaded PurpleHaze
[00:29] <PurpleHaze> jay_ are you using the first or second option for iso?
[00:29] <jay_> Should I try the 32 bit version? even tho that might slow things down at times?
[00:29] <Jordan_U> jay_: Did one of the tools finish?
[00:29] <user1_> wooter,  and that is a compaq driver. not dell
[00:29] <jay_> I'm using the ISO option. not pulling a new download each time cause that'd be a waste of data Pumpkin-_ RaMcHiP
[00:29] <jay_> PurpleHaze:
[00:30] <jay_> Jordan_U:  no. I canceled it. which one do you want me to use?
[00:30] <PurpleHaze> jay_ if you use the first option it tries to download, if you select the second option you can use a local iso
[00:30] <ajf> Hmm
[00:30] <ajf> Can you cd into a symlink without having bash follow it?
[00:30] <ajf> I want .. to act as if it’s in the place the symlink’s in
[00:30] <jay_> I usually use the second option cause i get the ISO from the website of the distro
[00:31] <wooter> user1_: same atheros chipset
[00:31] <Jordan_U> jay_: Follow these instructions: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[00:31] <PurpleHaze> jay_ and its freezing or erroring?
[00:31] <user1_> isnt there a package that has all the drivers?
[00:31] <user1_> wooter, ^
[00:31] <PurpleHaze> jay_ or just the boot dont work?
[00:31] <wooter> not sure mate
[00:32] <jay_> LiLi USB Creator is fine. it just uses similar parameters for the installation. Unetbootin sometimes* gives errors but not always
[00:33] <PurpleHaze> jay_ so you can create the usb iso without error?
[00:34] <PurpleHaze> jay_ usually unetbootin struggles with isos that havwe been created to boot using syslinux
[00:34] <jay_> most times PurpleHaze  there are no errors. I'm doing the pendrive thing Jordan_U
[00:35] <jay_> how are you suppose to know is an ISO uses syslinux to boot? remember, i am very NEW lol
[00:35] <PurpleHaze> jay_ Ive created a custom livecd based on Gentoo once I made it boot using syslinux iso style unetbootin created the isos ok but they wouldnt boot
[00:35] <Jordan_U> jay_: Once you've done the integrity check we'll know we have a solid starting point, until then there are too many possible problems, so please keep your focus on accomplishing that for now.
[00:36] <jay_> ok cool
[00:36] <jay_> it's 50% done jordan
[00:36] <PurpleHaze> jay_ you would need to mount the iso and list the files before could advise more
[00:37] <PurpleHaze> jay_ its usually /syslinux and its syslinux.cfg you want
[00:37] <jay_> i would love to keep working on this sometime soon guys. i'll check the file for integrity on the other pc that it's going to be installed onto. I have to leave soon though. i'm going to watch the fireworks for Canada Day downtown
[00:38] <jay_> pendrive completed without errors
[00:38] <jay_> so far so good
[00:38] <jay_> have a good night guys. i'll probably be back tomorrow
[00:39] <Jordan_U> jay_: If the integrity check passes, try installing while connected to the internet via ethernet (if you can).
[00:39] <ajf> Hmm
[00:39] <ajf> Say I make a hard link to a directory
[00:39] <jay_> ok thanks Jordan_U
[00:39] <ajf> How do I remove that hard link without destroying the dir’s contents?
[00:40] <PurpleHaze> so he could boot?
[00:40] <DaveyG> Hi all.
[00:40] <PurpleHaze> hi dave
[00:40] <DaveyG> hi PurpleHaze, hows it going.
[00:41] <PurpleHaze> DaveG: its going Linux
[00:42] <DaveyG> That i would guess would be something your interested in!
[00:42] <DaveyG> ive just found sshfs
[00:42] <Ben64> ajf: hard link not allowed for directory
[00:43] <ajf> damnit
[00:43] <DaveyG> Mazing!
[00:43] <ajf> :P
[00:44] <PurpleHaze> Linux keeps setting milestones with file systems or FS over network
[00:45] <DaveyG> Anyone setup ?this "short-stroke" on there hdd
[00:46] <PurpleHaze> hmm is that php short code?
[00:46] <DaveyG> Linux always sets challenges for us lovers to keep us interested.
[00:47] <DaveyG> Well thats how it treats me anyway.
[00:47] <DaveyG> me PurpleHaze? php?
[00:48] <PurpleHaze> Its the perfect OS it lets the hacker do what they want , its also easy to use for noobs (unstable releases may be different)
[00:49] <PurpleHaze> I remember first using Linux it was .configure; make; make install and good luck removing it, no yum install or aptitude install never mind software center
[00:49] <DaveyG> It was my interest in hacking that got me into linux in the begining.
[00:50] <PurpleHaze> DaveyG yeah so many blue screens and registry hacking gets kindas boring
[00:50] <DaveyG> Building from source for me is always a mine field. miss one dependant and everything falls apart.
[00:51] <DaveyG> Wifi sec was what got my interest in the first place PurpleHaze
[00:51] <PurpleHaze> package managers do it all now very well, RHEL/Fedora suck badly for desktop packages
[00:51] <quem> my printer is no longer installable in ubuntu 14.04.
[00:52] <DaveyG> Im sure with enough effort you can get it working again quem
[00:53] <PurpleHaze> quem if your printer doesent work wil be because its not compiled in the kernel, is it a new or old printer?
[00:54] <DaveyG> Or get a pi and run a print server.
[00:54] <PurpleHaze> I remeber the days when drivers werent handled byh the kernel that was dependency hell
[00:54] <quem> it's a Samsung ML-1610W. Ubuntu finds it alright, but stalls during the installation of its driver (splix)
[00:55] <quem> used it with many previous versions of Ubuntu without any trouble.
[00:55] <PurpleHaze> is it a propreitary driver?
[00:55] <quem> no, it's free software.
[00:58] <irssi> hello, I am looking for experience feedback on installing ubuntu on Western Digital hard drives with the advanced format. Problem or not?
[00:58] <DaveyG> does the printer have wifi or cat5 connections quem
[00:58] <quem> i've always used it through wifi.
[00:58] <PurpleHaze> quem you say you install drivers Ive not done that in any distro for years, you sure its not the propritary driver menu?
[00:58] <quem> it has cat5 too.
[00:58] <DaveyG> Have a look at this, http://www.bartbania.com/linux-2/cups-raspberry-printer/
[00:58] <DaveyG> if you have a pi laying around it might help
[00:58] <quem> PurpleHaze: yeah, quite sure. it clearly states that the driver is free software when it asks.
[00:59] <jcstarken> Have a question about drm video in 14.04 firefox what channel do I need thank you
[00:59] <Jordan_U> irssi: Does it present a 512 logical sector size or 4KiB? (Note, I am *not* asking about the physical sector size)
[00:59] <DaveyG> whats your issue jcstarken
[00:59] <Phelon> Greets.  I am trying to use subversion on my Ubuntu Server but when I am unable to commit.  I am how ever able to check out.  I have added my user to the subversion group and the subversion group does have read/write in the folder permissions.   Could anyone point me to where I might be going wrong?
[01:00] <jcstarken> DaveyG: I have installed pepper flash and hal and deleted the Nativecache dir and I still can not get amazon prime video to work
[01:01] <quem> PurpleHaze: ubuntu downloads the driver from the splix website, and i get the impression they don't support 14.04 yet..
[01:01] <DaveyG> Ive never tried getting prime to work.
[01:01] <jcstarken> DaveyG: I had it working in 12.04 but then went to mint 17 for awhile got board and prefer ubuntu so install 14.04 and can not get it for the life of me
[01:01] <PurpleHaze> quem if its downloading from the source thats a good chance
[01:03] <jcstarken> DaveyG: Hulu youtube all work just not amazon
[01:03] <jcstarken> DaveyG: and I know it will because most of the repos for mint 17 are the trusty ones
[01:04] <PurpleHaze> Gentoo FTW
[01:04] <DaveyG> You in the US jcstarken
[01:04] <jcstarken> DaveyG: yes
[01:04] <DaveyG> oh.
[01:05] <DaveyG> i wonder if amazon prime is trying to use silverlight rather than flash or html5
[01:06] <jcstarken> DaveyG: I have no idea I had it working in mint 17 with out that so I do not think so
[01:06] <apeoid> ahoy.  I just downloaded the 64-bit ubuntu 14.04 off ubuntu.com and the file says ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso     why does it say AMD?
[01:07] <apeoid> I did not select the mac version
[01:07] <DaveyG> As a short term fix you could consider running virtualbox in linux
[01:07] <jcstarken> DaveyG: ok thank you
[01:08] <quem> apeoid: amd64 is the same as x64 or x86_64.
[01:08] <Geo> apeoid: AMD doesn't mean mac
[01:09] <apeoid> when I click the drop down menu "choose your flavor" it says 64-bit, 32-bit, 64-bit Mac (AMD64) so you understand my concern
[01:09] <quem> apeoid: intel's first 64 bit processors were not backwards compatible with x86 and weren't very successful. amd's 64 bit standard was, so intel adopted it too
[01:09] <apeoid> ah ok... thank you I wanted to check that before I burned iso
[01:10] <quem> unless you have a mac or decade old pc, the amd64 iso is what you want.
[01:11] <apeoid> ok
[01:11] <quem> the 32-bit one will run too though, but presumably slower.
[01:12] <Zerodeamon> I have a 25yr old pc
[01:12] <apeoid> I have a 10 year old one that sounds like a vacuum cleaner
[01:12] <apeoid> and I have to put it on its side for it to boot
[01:12] <apeoid> or, if it's already on its side, I have to stand it back up
[01:12] <Zerodeamon> um a vaccume cleaner sound usually means you have a powerloop
[01:13] <apeoid> just cooling fans
[01:13] <Zerodeamon> yeah
[01:13] <Zerodeamon> a power loop on the fan
[01:14] <apeoid> it's not all the time full blast
[01:15] <Zerodeamon> my suggest = check your P4 connectors
[01:16] <apeoid> any idea why I can't boot to a usb hard drive?
[01:17] <ianorlin> apeoid does it show up in bios or uefi
[01:17] <apeoid> I installed a xubuntu distribution off live DVD with the other hard drives disconnected
[01:17] <apeoid> yeah
[01:17] <apeoid> shows up in uefi
[01:17] <apeoid> says insert media or hangs on the splash
[01:17] <ianorlin> oh uefi did you create a /boot partition
[01:18] <apeoid> yes I selected the drive to make a boot
[01:18] <apeoid> I did that with the other drives connected, then I disconnected the drives and tried again
[01:19] <apeoid> that's why I'm trying a different fork now
[01:22] <jcstarken> DaveyG: I GOT IT!!!
[01:26] <irssi> hello, I am looking for experience feedback on installing ubuntu on Western Digital hard drives with the advanced format. Problem or not?
[01:27] <Radzell> Hey everytime I press my mousepad the pp switcher for unity pops up.
[01:27] <Radzell> The alt-tab one how do I remove that option
[01:28] <Radzell> How do I diable alt-tab switch for the touchpad. I think it comes upwhen I trple tap
[01:31] <Jordan_U> irssi: I'm still waiting for you to answer my question.
[01:33] <unclescratchie> trying to play on pogo, says I need to update Adobe Flash,  system is up to date. What could be the problem please!
[01:34] <unclescratchie> oh I am using Chomium too
[01:48] <ricardo_> hy
[01:52] <irssi> Jordan_U: sorry, I did not see your answer. Yes, it is the transition from 512 to 4092b
[01:53] <Zerodeamon> 512B
[01:54] <irssi> Zerodeamon: why ?
[01:56] <apeoid> when I try to boot ubuntu on a hard drive connected on USB 3.0, it just hangs at the UEFI splash screen
[01:56] <apeoid> no fun
[01:57] <irssi> apeoid: watch your settings bios / UEFI
[01:58] <irssi> and perhaps the secure boot
[01:58] <apeoid> I futzed with all of it and tried and tried
[01:58] <irssi> this crap ...
[01:59] <apeoid> I'm going to see if the asus mobo has some issues
[01:59] <Jordan_U> irssi: Ubuntu should handle 4KiB logical sectors, but it's likely that your boot firmware will not support booting from it. That said, it's also unlikely that your drive actually exposes a logical sector size of 4K.
[02:00] <irssi> So I have to change my motherboard?
[02:01] <Jordan_U> irssi: What makes you think that your drive exposes 4KiB logical sectors?
[02:03] <Jordan_U> irssi: Just knowing that it's "Advanced format" doesn't tell you if it presents 4KiB sectors logically to the host, and most "Advanced Format" drives don't.
[02:05] <irssi> Jordan_U: it is marked on the hard disk documentation for sale
[02:05] <Jordan_U> irssi: What is?
[02:06] <irssi> I want to change the hard drive and I hesitate if I can use a disk that uses the advanced format because I understand that there were problems with Linux.
[02:07] <tpw_rules> irssi: i've never had a problem with such drives in ubuntu. i have an encrypted raid with mdadm and luks made out of four of them, plus a fifth for the boot drive
[02:07] <irssi> http://www.materiel.net/disque-dur-interne-2-5-pouces/western-digital-wd-blue-2-5-sata-iii-6-gb-s-500-go-7mm-92910.html
[02:07] <tpw_rules> how it works is the drive has 4KiB sectors inside of it, but it still says 512B to the host
[02:07] <irssi> tpw_rules: good news, what ubuntu version ?
[02:08] <tpw_rules> like 9.04 through 14.04 it hasn't broken
[02:09] <Jordan_U> irssi: Nowhere on that page do I see it stated that the drive presents 4KiB sectors to the host, only that it uses "Advanced Format".
[02:12] <Jordan_U> irssi: The WD Blue does *not* present 4KiB sectors to the host, it presents 512 byte logical sectos even though it has 4KiB physical sectors.
[02:12] <irssi> the installation seems to be a problem
[02:12] <irssi> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Format
[02:13] <irssi> ah okay, for the system does not change. This is simply for internal HDD
[02:13] <tpw_rules> okay now that i've upgraded to 14.04, i can't vpn anymore
[02:13] <tpw_rules> vnc rather
[02:14] <Jordan_U> irssi: Correct. For best performance you still want to have partitions aligned to MiB boundaries, but Ubuntu has been doing that by default for many years (longer than Windows has IIRC).
[02:14] <apeoid> oooooooh I see.  the dvd drive booted in legacy bios mode
[02:14] <apeoid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[02:15] <irssi> Thank you for this information and for your patience! Jordan_U and tpw_rules
[02:16] <apeoid> how should I format a drive for ubuntu 64 bit linux
[02:16] <apeoid> or should I present a simple volume ntfs
[02:16] <Jordan_U> apeoid: I would recommend just letting Ubuntu's installer handle partitioning for you.
[02:16] <tpw_rules> apeoid: you will need to go into your bios to switch legacy emulation off if that's your concern
[02:16] <DaveyG> dual boot apeoid or just linux?
[02:17] <apeoid> well I have a new 3 gig barracuda and external enclosure with usb 3.0
[02:17] <apeoid> so I would hopefully like to install ubuntu on that drive and leave windows alone completely
[02:17] <DaveyG> Jordan_U has a good point there.
[02:17] <apeoid> so I want to have a bootable usb external hard drive
[02:18] <DaveyG> As far as i know you will have too change the windows mbr on the main hard drive what ever you do
[02:18] <DaveyG> Oh i see.
[02:20] <rambo123456> Hi Ubuntuers.  I'm getting the following error when loading emacs
[02:20] <rambo123456> Error while loading 50dictionaries-common: Symbol's value as variable is void: debian-aspell-only-dictionary-alist
[02:20] <DaveyG> Ive always had issues doing that.  You can use a usb boot key to load linux and mount the portable drive as a storage drive. if you look into linux uid i think you should be able to tell the boot key to always load that hard drive under the same mount path.
[02:21] <rambo123456> Im using ubuntu 14.04.  Any ubuntu emacs user worked about this?
[02:21] <DaveyG> What you trying to install rambo123456
[02:22] <holstein> rambo123456: try loading as a different user..
[02:22] <DaveyG> I had simular issues with 14 does 12 work?
[02:29] <vladfi1> I can't seem to uninstall wine
[02:30] <vladfi1> apt-cache policy says Installed: (none)
[02:30] <vladfi1> but wine is still in /usr/bin/wine
[02:30] <joseluis64> I have aproblem with KDE dolphin, I can't figure out how to run executables... when I click on executable files it pops out "open with" dialog
[02:31] <xangua> !appdb | joseluis64
[02:32] <holstein> vladfi1: you can type "wine" in a terminal, and you'll see something run..
[02:32] <vladfi1> yes
[02:32] <DogBallFish> YOU UNBANNED ME  YAY!!!!
[02:32] <vladfi1> I see the wine help
[02:32] <DogBallFish> Thank you.
[02:32] <joseluis64> I'm not talking about wine
[02:33] <DogBallFish> Is it possible to download and install ubuntu using terminal I know you can do it with xubuntu but can you?
[02:33] <krustyklimber> hi... I am trying to restore my sound.... using this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting I've determined it's only this user profile that's affected.... how do I restore the default setting, thanks
[02:33] <joseluis64> not everybody talks about wine, please consider that.
[02:33] <vladfi1> the problem is that apt seems to think that wine is not installed
[02:33] <DogBallFish> sudo apt-get ubuntu-?
[02:34] <vladfi1> yet there is a wine in my /usr/bin
[02:34] <vladfi1> I suppose I could just remove it
[02:34] <xangua> DogBallFish: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-dektop
[02:34] <DogBallFish> Thank you.
[02:34] <DaveyG> or try purge command to remove wine and start fresh?
[02:34] <vladfi1> I have tried purge
[02:34] <vladfi1> apt-get purge wine
[02:35] <joseluis64> how may run an exceutable from KDE dolphin?
[02:35] <DogBallFish> vlad
[02:35] <DogBallFish> vladfil: try: sudo apt-get install wine
[02:35] <DogBallFish> Re do it
[02:35] <vladfi1> well
[02:35] <joseluis64> xangua i'm not talking about wine.
[02:35] <vladfi1> before I do that, I want to make sure there is no existing winer
[02:35] <vladfi1> wine
[02:35] <vladfi1> otherwise I will have two versions
[02:36] <joseluis64> I only wnat to run unetbootin, but I does not run it just pops out a window "open with"
[02:36] <DogBallFish> vladfil: it will update it
[02:36] <vladfi1> well it currently thinks it is not there
[02:36] <vladfi1> before I removed wine
[02:36] <vladfi1> I was in the odd state of wine --version saying 1.7.17 and apt-cache policy saying 1.7.20
[02:36] <DogBallFish> vladfil: what version or distro of ubuntu are you running?
[02:36] <vladfi1> 14.04
[02:37] <DogBallFish> Hmm
[02:37] <holstein> vladfi1: if you manually installed wine, the package manager wont "see" it..
[02:37] <DogBallFish> I am on Ubuntu Studio 14.04 so I might not be able to help sorry
[02:37] <vladfi1> hm
[02:37] <vladfi1> I just did an apt-get autoremove
[02:38] <vladfi1> and apparently wine1.7 got removed
[02:38] <holstein> vladfi1: ? whats the question? that *is* what that command is intended to do..
[02:38] <vladfi1> well
[02:38] <vladfi1> apt-get remove wine wasn't working
[02:38] <vladfi1> but apt-get autoremove apparently did
[02:38] <vladfi1> ok now wine is gone
[02:39] <DogBallFish> How do I set SeLinux to Disabled?
[02:40] <DogBallFish> would it be
[02:40] <DogBallFish> Sudo apt-get remove SeLinux?
[02:41] <DogBallFish> !SeLinux
[02:42] <DogBallFish>
[02:42] <DogBallFish> Hey
[02:43] <DaveyG> hey DogBallFish
[02:43] <DogBallFish> Hello?
[02:43] <DogBallFish> Oh hi
[02:43] <holstein> DogBallFish: ubuntustuduio ships the lowlatency kernel, but you can run the generic if you want/need
[02:43] <DogBallFish> I have a question
[02:43] <DaveyG> would you like me to ask you for your question?
[02:43] <DaveyG> press 1 for yes 2 for no. lol
[02:43] <holstein> DogBallFish: you can also make your own kernel with or without se linux or whatever you please
[02:44] <DogBallFish> Nvm I was getting an error but there was a bypass
[02:44] <holstein> DogBallFish: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor
[02:45] <DaveyG> Ah its seems there is more chance that you could help me than me helping you!
[02:45] <DogBallFish> holstein: I ran the sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop does that only change the desktop or can I change it into full ubuntu?
[02:45] <holstein> DogBallFish: you mean, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" ?
[02:45] <DogBallFish> Yes
[02:46] <krustyklimber> hi... I am trying to restore my sound.... using this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting I've determined it's only this user profile that's affected.... how do I restore the default setting, thanks
[02:46] <holstein> DogBallFish: as i stated before, you have a different kernel, and many other tweaks..
[02:46] <DogBallFish> Hang on I gotta reboot for the new desktop
[02:47] <DaveyG> newbie question, what command do people use mostly to search for a file from cli?
[02:48] <holstein> DaveyG: http://www.howtoforge.com/finding-files-on-the-command-line
[02:48] <Hilikus> if i plug my samsung galaxy S3 i can see my phone on nautilus and browse it but if i try to copy something to it it says touch: cannot touch ‘/run/user/1000/gvfs/mtp:host=%5Busb%3A002%2C008%5D/Phone/Sounds/asa’: Operation not supported
[02:48] <Hilikus> i would expect such an old phone to work without a problem
[02:48] <Hilikus> am i missing something?
[02:48] <DaveyG> thanks holstein
[02:49] <DaveyG> does the find command need refreshing or does it search everything new?
[02:50] <DaveyG> sometimes i dont get the results i thought i would get.
[02:50] <holstein> Hilikus: is the device functional in any supported operatating systems? can you read data without issue?
[02:50] <Hilikus> let me try in windows
[02:51] <g146m026> find . |grep 'foo'
[02:52] <DogBallFish> Whats better, ubuntu, xubuntu or lubuntu?
[02:52] <DaveyG> Does find use the dbupdate something or will it find any file even if its new.
[02:52] <Holstein_> Holstein: :3
[02:53] <g146m026> Linuxmint :P
[02:53] <Holstein_> Does linuxmint support multiple desktops?
[02:53] <somsip> !mint | Holstein_
[02:53] <g146m026> linuxmint is ubuntu based
[02:53] <DaveyG> ive tried ubuntu and xubuntu before. unbuntu seems to be the most supported out there is that helps at all Holstein_
[02:53] <krustyklimber> hi... sorry to keep asking, but  I am trying to restore my sound.... using this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting I've determined it's only this user profile that's affected.... how do I restore the default setting, thanks
[02:54] <Holstein_> krustyklimber: You may have to reflash your ubuntu distro.
[02:54] <DaveyG> Mint is not an easy to get started distro. Although i do love it.
[02:55] <krustyklimber> the whole thing, from the CD?
[02:55] <Jordan_U> Holstein_: Please change your nick to avoid confusion and extra highlights of Holstein.
[02:55] <Holstein_> Jordan_u: :3
[02:55] <himself_> hah
[02:55] <g146m026> DaveyG: I like Mint because we can use Gnome 2 (Mate) but all my server is Ubuntu
[02:55] <Jordan_U> jordan_o: This is a support channel, please stop the games.
[02:56] <Jordan_UU> Jordan_u: Ok
[02:56] <hpuser4466> Know if Gimp 2.8.4 in ubuntu 13.04 has GPU rendering enabled?   I notice GEGL operations in the tools menu.  Can tell if hardware acceleration is enabled though.
[02:56] <DaveyG> g146m026
[02:57] <Shmerby> !ubuntu
[02:57] <Hilikus> holstein: yes, it windows i can write to the phone without problem. i confirmed in a win7 VM
[02:57] <Jordan_U> ubotttu: Please join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss your ban.
[02:57] <DaveyG> g146m026 i like mint because its so quick and simple. But my linux knowledge is just not there yet to be able to use it as my main linux distro.
[02:58] <krustyklimber> can you explain the process of a reflash, I'm more of a GUI type user.... not computer savvy
[02:58] <holstein> Hilikus: good.. that means the device is likely completely functioning properly
[02:58] <Hilikus> yes
[02:58] <holstein> Hilikus: i would try mounting from the command line, and mv or cp there as well.. see if you can get an error message that is helpful
[02:59] <Hilikus> what dev though
[02:59] <Hilikus> it is not an UMS
[02:59] <Hilikus> but mtp
[02:59] <DaveyG> krustyklimber, did your sound work at somestage using that distro that your using now?
[03:00] <holstein> Hilikus: id just poke around til i see it
[03:00] <holstein> Hilikus: if all you want to do is move files, consider something like airdroid or an ssh/ftp server option.. you dont need wires for the transfer
[03:00] <krustyklimber> yes it worked, up until today, when I tried to get my mic working... I did something, I cant figure out
[03:01] <akurilin> Does anybody know what happens to slock when you ssh into a machine with it running?
[03:01] <akurilin> Is it pretty safe to say that the screen won't magically turn on?
[03:03] <holstein> akurilin: the machines i ssh into, running ssh servers, are headless.. so, they have no screens to turn on, and they are not logged in like that locally
[03:04] <holstein> akurilin: i would set up a test with whatever screen locker you are using, and see what happens.. ssh shouldnt do anything to the x session like that..
[03:04] <krustyklimber> using Pulse Audio I somehow changed settings, I have since removed Pulse, hoping to restore default settings, unsucessfully
[03:04] <kriskropd> akurilin: if you have a desktop running x on DISPLAY=0, then from ssh you could type 'DISPLAY=:0 slock' to lock the screen
[03:05] <kriskropd> akurilin: however if you simply run slock from an ssh that is not in a display environment (you can check with 'echo $DISPLAY') then it will probably give you an error about missing X
[03:05] <DaveyG> i feel your pain krustyklimber, ive had that before and never resolved the issue without wiping and starting again
[03:05] <kriskropd> akurilin: addittionally, there is 'vlock' which will lock your shell, if you need something like that
[03:06] <kriskropd> additionally, I can't spell :P
[03:06] <krustyklimber> ok thanks Davey.... now I gotta figeure out where that dang Ubuntu CD is :P
[03:06] <xangua> krustyklimber: ubuntu no longer fits in a CD
[03:07] <Shmerby> xangua: What?
[03:07] <DaveyG> I here that to krustyklimber, you got a android phone?
[03:07] <kriskropd> xangua: it hasn't for awhile ...
[03:07] <holstein> krustyklimber: i like using pavucontrol ..try installing pulse and pavucontrol, get a file playing, and look at the routing in pavucontrol.. see that you have everything "up" in alsamixer (carefully) and that you have a device in "aplay -l"
[03:07] <DaveyG> the network install disk for ubuntu does if you cant find a dvd around.
[03:07] <Shmerby> Whats the most stable version a ubuntu?
[03:07] <kriskropd> xangua: if you simply must install from a CD and not a usb, get the ubuntu server edition - you can skip out of the server options during install and opt to download and install the graphical desktop stuff from apt-get
[03:07] <akurilin> holstein, kriskropd great info, thanks guys.
[03:08] <krustyklimber> way over my head holstein, sorry
[03:08] <holstein> Shmerby: they are *all* ubuntu..
[03:08] <kriskropd> xangua: however, I haven't used ubuntu with intended grpahics in years, so i'm nto the person to ask about that - it used to be 'sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop' i think, but like i said ... years ago
[03:08] <xangua> Shmerby: latest stable release is 14.04
[03:08] <holstein> !14.04
[03:08] <DaveyG> Shmerby, i would go for 12 my self.
[03:08] <rickmacomber> hi
[03:08] <Shmerby> DaveyG: Why is that?
[03:09] <DaveyG> hi rickmacomber
[03:09] <kingbeowolf> anyone tested the x-swat ppa with an r9 290?
[03:09] <rickmacomber> sup
[03:09] <krustyklimber> lol pavu... pulse audio... man I am dumb :)
[03:09] <holstein> DaveyG: when you say "go for 12?", you mean, 12.04?
[03:09] <DaveyG> i have found there are small problems that i cant solve in 14 that 12 doesnt have Shmerby
[03:10] <DaveyG> yes 12.04
[03:10] <andrew2> Hi
[03:10] <Shmerby> DaveyG: I will try that on e.
[03:10] <DaveyG> hi andrew2
[03:10] <xangua> kingbeowolf: ppa's are not officialy supported, also that ppa tells you don't expect any stability on daily use
[03:10] <holstein> DaveyG: likely due to specific hardware support..
[03:10] <krustyklimber> ok I will try re=installing pulse audio.... it used to fix my mic, which stops working everytime I restart
[03:10] <Shmerby> How do you do the red name thing, or is that only for admins?
[03:10] <krustyklimber> brb
[03:10] <DaveyG> although im not anything more than a old newvie to linux.
[03:11] <Shmerby> !stable
[03:11] <Shmerby> Owned, Holstein.
[03:11] <DaveyG> yes holstein, def hardware spec choice. I use older hardware with linux and have had issues with 14.
[03:11] <kingbeowolf> xangua, "This PPA is for stable upstream releases of X.org components."
[03:11] <Shmerby> Even Ubottu says no.
[03:11] <Jordan_U> Shmerby: Any message containing your nick will be highlighted by your IRC client.
[03:12] <Shmerby> Oh...
[03:12] <andrew2> Ubuntu*
[03:12] <holstein> i use 12.04 where its appropriate, and 14.04 where its appropriate.. im stating, that the differences are likely specific to hardware
[03:12] <andrew2> Wish app grid worked on 12.04
[03:12] <kingbeowolf> app grid is closed source
[03:13] <DaveyG> im sure, listen to holstein, he has a much better understanding of linux than i do.
[03:13] <kingbeowolf> use Muon Discover
[03:13] <Shmerby>  If I have Ok Low end working hardware with 4gb of ram and 500GB Hard drive, which Ubuntu will be better?
[03:13] <DaveyG> i would go for 14 from what holstein is saying.
[03:13] <kriskropd> Shmerby: any of them - what kind of CPU and GPU?
[03:13] <andrew2> App grid is closed ? It uses open libs.
[03:14] <DaveyG> if you have hardware issues then go back to 12.04
[03:14] <Shmerby>  I had someone build this PC for me while back never used so I don't know.
[03:14] <kriskropd> Shmerby: xubuntu and lubuntu use XFCE and LXDE which are some of the lightest weight desktop environments you can get
[03:14] <DaveyG> I would think you could use the live boot cd to test if the hardware works with your setup.
[03:14] <krustyklimber> pulse audio shows music playing in my rythm box, but I can't hear it
[03:15] <andrew2> I want to run it.
[03:15] <holstein> DaveyG: im not trying to imply that.. and im sure you'r opinion is *quite* valid.. im just saying, be cautious of blanketly stating 14.04 has some issues that cant be solved.. when, for a new user, 14.04 may be a "better" choice... we really dont know, and i think it would be best for the user to try both and use what is best for them
[03:15] <Shmerby> Gonna make CD's for both Ubuntu 14 and 12
[03:15] <Shmerby> !Ubuntu
[03:15] <kingbeowolf> App grid is closed and they even have a warning whne you install it
[03:15] <kingbeowolf> use Muon Discover
[03:15] <andrew2> Oh no
[03:15] <kingbeowolf> it is awesome
[03:15] <kingbeowolf> it is quit and built with QML
[03:15] <DaveyG> i agree with that holstein, that makes perfect sense.
[03:16] <andrew2> OK ty
[03:16] <andrew2> I had that install in pure Ubuntu.
[03:16] <andrew2> Why would app grid be closed source ?
[03:17] <kingbeowolf> andrew2, i dont know
[03:17] <andrew2> All I know us that its better then Ubuntu app store.
[03:17] <kingbeowolf> andrew2, bro look at Muon Discover
[03:17] <holstein> andrew2: "better" is a matter of opinion.. though, you should use what works "Best" for you
[03:17] <ianorlin> yes apt-get works best for some people
[03:17] <andrew2> Is there an app grid channel ?
[03:17] <Shmerby> Which version should I get for Ubuntu 14? 64 bit or 32 or amd64 I have 4g in RAM
[03:17] <andrew2> Omg really.
[03:18] <andrew2> Better means the best
[03:18] <holstein> Shmerby: in that case, i would use 64
[03:18] <Shmerby> Andrew2: #appgird
[03:18] <kingbeowolf> andrew2, http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/2012/05/14/muon-suite-1-4-alpha-released/
[03:18] <Shmerby> #appgrid
[03:18] <kingbeowolf> that is open source andrew2
[03:18] <kriskropd> Shmerby: you need to know if your CPU is 32 bit or 64 bit - if you have 4GB of ram, it likely means it is 64 bit
[03:18] <krustyklimber> is there a way to restore to the setting I had running yesterday?
[03:18] <andrew2> Ok
[03:19] <holstein> krustyklimber: if you saved them..
[03:19] <krustyklimber> yeah... not smart enough to have figure out how back=up worked.... not much of a proactive user
[03:20] <hpuser4466> How do I tell if gimp has gpu hardware rendering enabled?
[03:20] <Shmerby> Why Ubuntu is awesome, *ONLY FOR MAC OSX OR  WINDOWS* Opens terminal 1 minute later running that app.
[03:20] <holstein> krustyklimber: you may consider a fresh install the "easy way".. since that may take about 10 minutes or less..
[03:20] <andrew2> Yup
[03:20] <Shmerby> hpuser4466L Try look at your BIOS setting it might say.
[03:20] <andrew2> There's others distro besides ubuntu
[03:20] <andrew2> I use a respin
[03:21] <holstein> andrew2: this is the specific ubuntu support channel, though, friend..
[03:21] <krustyklimber> holstein.... lol nothing takes me ten minutes on a computer.... I couldn't even figure out how to burn this version onto a cd, and had to buy it
[03:21] <holstein> krustyklimber: its too big for a CD..
[03:21] <holstein> !mini
[03:22] <Shmerby> holstein: Not mine. Mine holds 4 gb this download is close to 1gb.
[03:22] <holstein> and you can add what you want/need ^ over the network.. or a lubuntu iso should fit on a CD
[03:22] <krustyklimber> I know it is now too big for a cd.... that's why, if I can't plug in a cd and have it magically put Ubuntu on my computer I am probably screwed
[03:22] <holstein> Shmerby: i was stating, for 4gb's of memory, i would use 64bit, if 64bit is supported by the CPU
[03:22] <andrew2> Compress
[03:23] <andrew2> Its not magic
[03:23] <krustyklimber> andrew, to me it might as well be magic
[03:23] <holstein> andrew2: you cant "compress" the iso onto a CD like that.. they are as tight as possiblel
[03:23] <holstein> possible*
[03:23] <Jordan_U> andrew2: The Ubuntu DVD images are already compressed.
[03:24] <andrew2> Oh
[03:24] <ianorlin> that is why it takes more space on install then it does on dvd
[03:24] <andrew2> I know that much.
[03:24] <Shmerby> What is "Dummy write" I am about to burn ubuntu 14 on to a CD
[03:24] <krustyklimber> am I using incorrect terminology.... cd, when I should say DVD?
[03:24] <hpuser4466> i definitely have accelerated GPU (ATI HD Radeon) and glxinfo says "direct rendering: Yes"  but can;t tell if gimp is GPU enabled.
[03:24] <holstein> Shmerby: 14.04... that would be a "test write"... AFAIK
[03:25] <andrew2> Maybe zip it down , then unzip on computer a VM it.
[03:25] <xangua> Shmerby: ubuntu doesn't fit on a CD, use a DVD or a usb stick
[03:25] <Shmerby> *DVD
[03:25] <andrew2> Think of doing that.
[03:25] <holstein> andrew2: it wont fit on a CD.. please use the #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[03:26] <andrew2> Load it in a VM I said no CD needed.
[03:26] <krustyklimber> I can get it onto a USB stick.... just never figured out how to get it back off.... I guess I'm not smart enough to be helped, thanks for trying, one and all
[03:27] <andrew2> Actually no zip needed. I said that wrong.
[03:27] <holstein> krustyklimber: you can dd copy the iso's to dvd, or use something like unetbootin
[03:27] <andrew2> Live boot.
[03:27] <holstein> andrew2: there is no way to make the iso work on a cd for a normal installation.. thanks though
[03:27] <andrew2> Unetbootin
[03:27] <krustyklimber> greek to me holstein
[03:27] <andrew2> Omg
[03:27] <andrew2> What a weirdo
[03:27] <holstein> !install | krustyklimber
[03:27] <andrew2> Iggy bin for him
[03:27] <krustyklimber> I don't even know what dd means
[03:27] <holstein> krustyklimber: you should be able to read about a few of those options there ^^
[03:28] <holstein> krustyklimber: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ is about unet.. though, i think there may be easier suggestions as the wiki page above
[03:28] <krustyklimber> lol reading and comprehending are likely to have a gap in there.... but I'll try, thanks again everyone
[03:29] <andrew2> Any one use xfce ?
[03:30] <andrew2> Found a channel for it.
[03:31] <mido> any body there ?
[03:31] <kingbeowolf> andrew2, did you check out muon discover?
[03:31] <kingbeowolf> andrew2, it looks almost exactly like App grid except it is open source.
[03:32] <mido> guys guys , ihave aproblem please any body help ?
[03:32] <dotDeb> mido just ask
[03:32] <mido> ican't make boot from win7 cd on ubuntu
[03:33] <mido> iwas on win8.1 i just can't handle with linux and ican't go back to windows
[03:34] <dotDeb> mido you don't have the original windows disk that came with your pc?
[03:34] <mido> no this cd not original but it was working when iwas on windows
[03:35] <andrew2> Omg this hopless
[03:35] <andrew2> Bios settings
[03:36] <mido> Bios settings have no problem i checked it 5 times before now
[03:36] <andrew2> Make CD ROM boot before hard disk
[03:36] <andrew2> In boot meno
[03:37] <andrew2> Menu_
[03:37] <mido> i did it before
[03:37] <andrew2> So yes bios
[03:37] <mido> i also tried from usb and nothing
[03:37] <mido> it keeps telling me boot from cd/dvd ...
[03:37] <andrew2> You set CD Rom before HDD ?
[03:37] <mido> then it go into ubuntu
[03:38] <mido> yes
[03:38] <andrew2> Ok
[03:38] <andrew2> Do ever get in Ubuntu logo ?
[03:39] <mido> it show ubuntu logo after this word (boot from cd/dvd)
[03:40] <andrew2> Then let it do that.
[03:40] <mido> after logo it's going to ubuntu system that ihave installed before
[03:41] <mido> my problem here iwant to install windows system and ican't
[03:41] <mido> maybe ubuntu changed files on bios or boot info iam not sure
[03:42] <andrew2> You need to state the issue better
[03:42] <andrew2> Windows will just write over Ubuntu install.
[03:42] <andrew2> No it doesn't change biod
[03:43] <bryan> I have a bit of lag on whenever i move a windows and I dont know what it is please help..
[03:43] <andrew2> Unity ?
[03:43] <utfans05> bryan: what is your systems's load?
[03:43] <mido> when i was in windows system icould make boot from cd
[03:43] <mido> now iam on ubuntu and ican't
[03:43] <andrew2> Unity is bit heavy for some computers
[03:44] <andrew2> From bios.
[03:44] <bryan> what do  you mean? sorry just started using linux.
[03:44] <bryan> I have xubuntu
[03:44] <andrew2> That's spreate from the Ubuntu install bios is micro chip
[03:45] <mido> yes iam begginer on ubuntu
[03:45] <utfans05> bryan: open up a terminal and type uptime.
[03:45] <utfans05> what does the load adverage say
[03:45] <andrew2> The contains very basic code
[03:45] <andrew2> For test the hard ware at start up
[03:45] <bryan> 0.49, 1.05, 1.11
[03:46] <kriskropd> utfans05: that might not be very telling, since uptime is going to treat each core as 1.00 and we don't know how many cores he has ...
[03:46] <mido> andrew2 : so what can ido now ??
[03:46] <andrew2> You need to put CD ROM at the top of boot list.
[03:46] <andrew2> I've told you
[03:46] <utfans05> krisd: but It's a start... bryan now in that terminal run top and see what's eating up your processor and ram. that's gonna tell you what's causing your lag.
[03:46] <utfans05> s/krisd/kriskropd
[03:47] <andrew2> Its unity
[03:47] <mido> idid it before , believe me it didn't work with me
[03:47] <bryan> what am i looking at?
[03:47] <utfans05> He's runnign xfce. xbuntu.
[03:47] <ianorlin> well there is nproc
[03:47] <andrew2> I'm done mido
[03:47] <kingbeowolf> i want to remove Unity
[03:48] <kingbeowolf> how should i do that?
[03:48] <utfans05> top shows you all of your running processes. you need to see what's usign up all of your resources.
[03:48] <kingbeowolf> sudo apt-get remove unity or sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop?
[03:48] <andrew2> Install another desktop environment first
[03:48] <mido> andrew2 : ok np iwill try again
[03:48] <kingbeowolf> andrew2, i have KDE already
[03:48] <Jordan_U> !nounity | kingbeowolf
[03:48] <sydney> kingbeowolf:you need to have another DE installed first.
[03:48] <andrew2> He still needs another desktop
[03:49] <kingbeowolf> sydney, i have KDE
[03:49] <bryan> they keep moving lol
[03:49] <andrew2> Oh KDE that awful for me.
[03:49] <sydney> kingbeowolf: Why do you want to remove unity?
[03:49] <sydney> kingbeowolf: it should not get in the way...
[03:50] <kingbeowolf> sydney, i just prefer KDE
[03:50] <utfans05> bryan: what's the top 3-4 those are going to be your highest usage processes.
[03:50] <sydney> kingbeowolf:Is unity getting in the way?
[03:51] <kingbeowolf> I just don't want multiple things running at the same time
[03:51] <bryan> I only have isntalled google chrome and docky at the moment
[03:51] <kingbeowolf> sydney, for some reason when you install the KDE desktop it doesn't just run KDE it runs some other desktop application as well
[03:52] <kriskropd> bryan:  google chrome is a known memory hog - do windows lag only when you have applications running or does it occur from boot up?
[03:52] <sydney> kingbeowolf: Ok,what is the programs name?
[03:52] <kingbeowolf> sydney, i don't know but if you install kubuntu-desktop and then restart your system it will revert to what ever your Unity desktop was and then it will reboot
[03:53] <bryan> its choppiness and I just installed google chrome and i have 4 gb ram
[03:53] <kingbeowolf> sydney, it basically flashes the Unity desktop before rebooting
[03:53] <sydney> kingbeowolf: so,are you in kde,or in unity?
[03:54] <kingbeowolf> sydney, im in KDE
[03:54] <Guest28804> Test
[03:54] <kriskropd> bryan: it could be anything from: gpu driver issues, Xorg issues, compositing issues, cpu load - if you close google chrome, do the windows still render choppy?
[03:54] <bryan> yes
[03:55] <sydney> kingbeowolf: So,I am having trouble understanding.What is your problem exactly? What version of ubuntu you running?
[03:56] <kingbeowolf> sydney, i have told you my problem
[03:56] <kriskropd> bryan: can you install htop for me? it's a fancier version of 'top' with color highlights and individual load bars for each cpu core in your machine - to install htop. go back to that terminal you ran before, close 'top' with ctrl+c then type 'sudo apt-get install htop' - it will ask for admin password and ask you if you are sure you want to install - when it is done,, simply load htop
[03:56] <holstein> bryan: i would look at my GPU driver, if i have nvidia or AMD, and there is a proprietary one i could try..
[03:56] <kingbeowolf> sydney, when i restart it flashes the Unity desktop before closing down
[03:57] <kingbeowolf> sydney, but i am in KDE
[03:57] <kingbeowolf> sydney, this is 14.04
[03:57] <sydney> kingbeowolf: And might i ask what version of ubuntu you are running?
[03:57] <sydney> kingbeowolf: oops!!
[03:57] <kingbeowolf> :D
[03:57] <sydney> kingbeowolf: weird...
[03:57] <holstein> kingbeowolf: you mean, the greeter?
[03:58] <bryan> ok ill do that
[03:58] <bryan> done
[03:59] <kriskropd> bryan: if this turns out to not be a cpu load issue, I would say it is a bug in Xorg - if this does turn out to be a cpu load issue, then either you need to find a way to make your CPU work less by getting the GPU driver setup right or, if no gpu in machine, getting a dedicated gpu for the machine
[03:59] <kingbeowolf> holstein, no not what is it called lightdm?
[03:59] <kingbeowolf> holstein, it doesn't flash lightdm
[03:59] <kingbeowolf> it flashes the actual Unity desktop
[03:59] <visiteur_1> salut
[03:59] <kingbeowolf> my Unity wallpaper is different then my KDE wallpaper
[04:00] <kingbeowolf> I see all my desktop icons and then the Unity wallpaper
[04:00] <kriskropd> bryan: when you run htop, at the top you will see CPU and MEM and such, do you see only one bar for CPU? or are there multiple?
[04:00] <bryan> it has a gpu
[04:00] <andrew2> U have an idea in that lag issue
[04:00] <holstein> kingbeowolf: whats the problem, though? i mean, you used to have that, correct? are you thinking its running in the background?
[04:00] <andrew2> Try seeing about installing the 2D version if unity .
[04:00] <kingbeowolf> holstein, yeah i think it is running in the background
[04:01] <holstein> kingbeowolf: confirm if it is or not..
[04:01] <kriskropd> bryan: if there is only one CPU bar, it might be safe to assume (from your previous load average paste) that it is in fact a cpu load issue
[04:01] <kingbeowolf> holstein, i already uninstalled it now
[04:01] <bryan> it shows 1 2 3 4 and then mem and swp no cpu
[04:01] <kingbeowolf> holstein, but it still shouldn't do that right?
[04:01] <kriskropd> bryan: okay, then that weeds out cpu load, it doesn't weed out gpu driver failure or xorg though
[04:02] <kriskropd> bryan: bryan 1, 2, 3 and 4 means you have a quad core cpu
[04:02] <holstein> kingbeowolf: i dont think its showing that becuase its running in the background.. i used to see some really odd things at shutdown with a via chip.. none of which were running on the hardware at that time
[04:02] <kriskropd> bryan: that load average you saw before with uptime can go as high as 4.00
[04:02] <bryan> yeah
[04:02] <bryan> ok
[04:02] <bryan> can I raise it
[04:03] <kingbeowolf> holstein, well to me it seems like a bug but i guess i will reboot and see if it still happens
[04:03] <kingbeowolf> thanks
[04:03] <kriskropd> bryan: it will rise base don how hard the computer is working (lower is better) 1.00 of your maximum  4.00 means you are only using approximatley one quarter of your cpu's processing ability on average
[04:03] <kriskropd> based*
[04:04] <bryan> then its not that right?
[04:04] <Adzz> Hi all, I have a weird networking issues on one of my Ubuntu machines, my machine can connect to my network either by me giving it a manual IP or receiving one from my router and it can resolve domains, however when i try to ping an address or visit a web page, it cannot connect. I receive "Destination Host Unreachable"
[04:04] <kriskropd> bryan: it means your cpu is not struggling to try to do something it shouldn't be doing :) it's part of the troubleshooting process to rule out potential issues
[04:05] <kriskropd> bryan: unfortunately, it gets harder to trouble shoot from here, let's start with GPU drivers - do you know which gpu you have installed and do you know which driver you have installed?
[04:06] <bryan> I dont
[04:07] <Adzz> anyone have any ideas?
[04:07] <bryan> i have the box of the laptop
[04:08] <bryan> it says intel hd graphics 3000
[04:08] <holstein> bryan: intel is usually well supported.. are you up to date with upgrades?
[04:08] <kriskropd> bryan: we can find out which card you have from terminal, type 'sudo lshw -class display' it should indicate which gpu you ahve
[04:09] <kriskropd> bryan: holstein is right, install usually works out of the box without driver issues
[04:09] <kriskropd> s/install/intel
[04:10]  * kriskropd is groggy and prone to typing mistakes
[04:10] <bryan> holstein: what upgrades are you refering to?
[04:10] <bryan> Krisropt just put the command line. now what do i do?
[04:11] <holstein> bryan: ubuntu upgrades... open a terminal and use the command "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and reboot if you get a kernel update, and test
[04:11] <kriskropd> Adzz: you said you can get an IP from your router via DHCP, does this mean you can ping your router (lets say 'ping <IP_ADDRESS>') but can't ping google? ('ping <IP_ADDRESS>')
[04:11] <kriskropd> Adzz: if so, that sounds like connection failure on your router
[04:12] <Adzz> kriskropd: That is correct, but from my other computers/phones i can access the internet fine, im connected to the same router now, talking to you...
[04:12] <holstein> or DNS... i manuallly added DNS routes to my server for that in one case..
[04:12] <kriskropd> bryan: well, lshw should tell you which card you have, I expect on a line indicating 'product:' it will say intell graphics 3000 or something
[04:12] <holstein> i assumed it was related to my router, as kriskropd is suggesting, Adzz .. try manuallly using openDNS or google DNS
[04:12] <kriskropd> holstein: the only issue witht hat solution is DNS isn't needed to ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:13] <holstein> kriskropd: true..
[04:13] <holstein> Adzz: you cant ping <IP_ADDRESS>. ?
[04:13] <kriskropd> Adzz: that is absolutely strange, were you messing with the firewall by chance? Iptables or anything like that?
[04:14] <Adzz> holstein: and also, if it was a DNS fault, why can i still resolve google.com to <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:14] <holstein> Adzz: can it?
[04:14] <Adzz> kriskropd: nope nothing... the only thing that has change is more computer connected to the router, but they are disconnected now... I've removed my manual address settings and rebooted, I'll see if that changes anything...
[04:14] <Adzz> holstein: it can :/
[04:15] <Fall> that awkward moment when you start typing git commands into irc
[04:15] <kriskropd> bryan: if you can confirm that lshw indicates intel graphics, then there isn't much more assistance I can give you - you might need to ask in #xorg or #xfce maybe
[04:15] <markolo25_> i have a question
[04:16] <markolo25_> i have a tar.gz and when uncompressed it's size is smaller than the tar.gz file
[04:16] <markolo25_> is this possible?
[04:16] <kriskropd> bryan: #xubuntu might be a good palce too - they would be more familiar of the combination of software you are using for your desktop environment
[04:16] <holstein> bryan: you can try using a vesa driver as well, to isolate the driver in the GPU http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209
[04:16] <usr13_> markolo25_: What is it?
[04:16] <Jordan_U> markolo25_: Yes, though rare.
[04:16] <kriskropd> holstein: you can, in fact, ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[04:17] <markolo25_> to know the size i use du -h for the extracted and ls-l for the tar.gz
[04:17] <holstein> markolo25_: i would ask the creator for a sum, but, it depends on what the goal is...
[04:17] <Adzz> kriskropd: It seems that its now fixed, after i put it back on to a DHCP address... Odd, since it was always on a manual address up to now
[04:17] <usr13_> markolo25_: Uusally, a tar file is an archive, (multiple files).
[04:17] <kriskropd> holstein: because, if so, then this sounds liek an issue with your browser (assumign you are using one to indicate if network is available or not)
[04:17] <markolo25_> yea
[04:17] <bryan> it doesnt show anything saying intel graphics
[04:17] <markolo25_> what i did was i have the tar.gz inside of an ext3
[04:17] <holstein> kriskropd: not me, though..
[04:17] <markolo25_> and extracted it to ntfs partition
[04:18] <kriskropd> holstein: sorry >_< my bad
[04:18] <markolo25_> is there a way to make ls -l human readable
[04:18] <holstein> kriskropd: no worries..
[04:18] <kriskropd> Adzz: because, if so, then this sounds liek an issue with your browser (assumign you are using one to indicate if network is available or not)
[04:18] <usr13_> markolo25_: The reported file size may differ on other file systems.
[04:18] <holstein> !cookie | kriskropd
[04:18] <markolo25_> so the size is in the same format as du -h
[04:18] <markolo25_> oh ok thank you usr13_
[04:18] <markolo25_> it's probably just the difference in file systems
[04:18] <Adzz> kriskropd: I wasn't able to ping <IP_ADDRESS> prior to now, all i was able to do was resolve domains and ping my router (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[04:19] <bryan> how do ask on another #
[04:19] <usr13_> markolo25_: But some files don't really compress.  Graphics are sometimes not compressable.
[04:19] <markolo25_> ok
[04:19] <kriskropd> bryan: you can join another channel by simply typing '/join xubuntu'
[04:20] <andrew2> Noob
[04:20] <kriskropd> however, could you also paste what you see as output from 'sudo lshw -class display' ?
[04:20] <bryan> just found it
[04:20] <markolo25_> thank you
[04:20] <usr13_> kriskropd:  /join #xubuntu
[04:20] <holstein> andrew2: please dont use names and terms like that.. and only use this channel for support Q&A.. thanks
[04:20] <markolo25_> is it possible to make du -h only display the folders size and not every sub directory
[04:21] <xpistos> Hey, I am having some issues with dpkg and need some assitance. I try to run sudo apt-get clean, autoremove and purge but it is telling me it can't becase E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[04:21] <usr13_> markolo25_: yes
[04:21] <xpistos> If it matters it also tells me that there is no disk space, but there is plenty
[04:22] <markolo25_> ok
[04:22] <markolo25_> it turns out they are the same size
[04:22] <usr13_> df xpistos df -i
[04:22] <kriskropd> xpistos: what happens if you run 'sudo apt-get -f'
[04:22] <markolo25_> the tar.gz is 524G and the extracted is 527G
[04:22] <markolo25_> should be good :D
[04:22] <markolo25_> i guess i should've just tared it without compression
[04:23] <xpistos> kriskropd: sudo apt-get what?
[04:23] <usr13_> markolo25_: If it is only one file, there would be no reason to tar it.
[04:23] <kriskropd> xpistos: sorry 'sudo apt-get install -f'
[04:23] <markolo25_> it's not just one file
[04:23] <markolo25_> it's one of my storage drives for family photos
[04:23] <markolo25_>  i guess you're right pictures don't compress >_>
[04:23] <kriskropd> xpistos: don't include any specific packages, just let apt-get try to clean up and get waht it needs
[04:23] <xpistos> kriskropd: tells me there is a disk full error, but I am sure it isn't
[04:24] <xpistos> apt-get clean comes back fine
[04:24] <usr13_> markolo25_: So they are .jpg images, right?
[04:24] <genii> xpistos: Have you run a fsck recently?
[04:24] <markolo25_> yea
[04:24] <xpistos> apt-get autoremove gives me the same -f issue
[04:24] <kriskropd> xpistos: and if you type 'df -h' how much space do you see available
[04:24] <xpistos> genii: no
[04:24] <bjrohan> hi there. I am trying to run an upstart script, however the log says that it can not access the jar file, what am I doing incorrectly here is the script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7734754/
[04:25] <bjrohan> scratch that wrong post
[04:25] <xpistos> kriskropd: root has 2.6 gb avail
[04:25] <usr13_> markolo25_: Image files that are in .jpg format are already compressed, (that is the advantage of the .jpg format).
[04:25] <Adzz> bjrohan: In the upstart script, you are not giving the correct location to the jar file, where is it located?
[04:26] <bulldog666> bodhilinux kicks ass
[04:26] <bulldog666> so fast
[04:26] <markolo25_> yea i figured, compressed files cannot be compressed again so next time i'll just tar them if the drive they're on now starts dying
[04:26] <xpistos> genii: not really sure how to run fsck
[04:26] <cfhowlett> !ot|bulldog666
[04:26] <bulldog666> best ubuntu desktop enviro
[04:26] <kriskropd> xpistos: you might have a dependency bug somewhere, I had this with php 5.2 a while back
[04:26] <bjrohan> Adzz: Yep, :-(
[04:26] <markolo25_> is ubottu a bot
[04:26] <bulldog666> yes
[04:26] <holstein> bulldog666: bodhi is actually not ubuntu.. should have its own support channel...
[04:26] <Adzz> bjrohan: Where is the jar file located?
[04:26] <usr13_> markolo25_: JPEG is " is a commonly used method of lossy compression for digital images, particularly for those images produced by digital photography."  See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jpeg
[04:27] <kriskropd> xpistos: can you paste the entire output ot apt-get? it should indicate somewhere what packages specifically are causing the problem
[04:27] <xpistos> kriskropd: it does keep saying there are unmet deps
[04:27] <bulldog666> isn't it just a desktop enviro for ubuntu
[04:27] <bulldog666> it seems just like ubuntu
[04:27] <holstein> bulldog666: no
[04:27] <xpistos> kriskropd: sure one sec let me get pastebin
[04:27] <bulldog666> can you please explain?
[04:27] <cfhowlett> bulldog666 it's not supported here.  sorry.  see the bodhilinux folk for support.
[04:28] <bulldog666> im not looking for desktop support buddy
[04:28] <markolo25_> this is the first time i've heard of bodhilinux
[04:28] <holstein> bulldog666: sure.. ubuntu is ubuntu.. anyone can take ubuntu and make something different, such as bodhi.. thus, not being ubuntu anymore
[04:28] <kriskropd> bulldog666: bodhilinux is just another distro
[04:28] <kriskropd> bulldog666: it's all linux with a bunch of open source software piled on top
[04:28] <bulldog666> ithought that was whats debian was for
[04:28] <bulldog666> thanks
[04:28] <genii> xpistos: Usually, boot to the recovery by selecting it from grub menu. Select drop to root prompt.Then run it on the suspected partitions. Like if /usr is mounted to /dev/sdb2  then run like: fsck /dev/sdb2   ...when done checking partitions you can issue exit and get back to recovery menu to reboot or continue normally, etc
[04:28] <kriskropd> bulldog666: what software you include = your distro
[04:28] <holstein> !flavors | bulldog666
[04:29] <holstein> bulldog666: but, bodhi is not an official flavor.. bodhi is its own thing.. just like ubuntu is "based" on debian, but is not debian anymore
[04:29] <markolo25_> that desktop manager looks awful bulldog666
[04:29] <bulldog666> is there a irc client for ubuntu terminal?
[04:29] <bjrohan> Adzz: I realized that is the problem. I am having problems with the script, I last played with it early in the am, and lost track of a later revision
[04:30] <xpistos> sorry guys. son came in with a speeding ticket.
[04:30] <kriskropd> bulldog666: there is no ubuntu terminal - by default I think it uses gnome-terminal or something
[04:30] <markolo25_> xpistos: how much :(
[04:30] <Adzz> bjrohan: That's fine, its easy to fix, you just gotta let me know the path to the jar file you want to run, and I'll edit the upstart script for you to fix it
[04:30] <holstein> bulldog666: irssi... weechat..
[04:30] <kriskropd> bulldog666: sorry, i misunderstood
[04:30] <kriskropd> bulldog666: yes, there are irc clients for terminal, such as irssi or weechat
[04:30] <andrew2> Xchat
[04:30] <bulldog666> thanks
[04:30] <bjrohan> Adzz: I have it edited and rebooting, will let you know how it goes in a few :-)
[04:30] <bulldog666> i meant to say ubuntu server
[04:30] <bulldog666> thanks thou
[04:31] <andrew2> Not great though
[04:31] <rtnb> Hey, I'm trying to do a find and replace on a bunch of html files' links to make them https but it doesnt seem to be working, whats wrong with my command? http://pastie.org/9345540
[04:31] <holstein> andrew2: for the terminal.. xchat is GUI
[04:32] <kriskropd> bulldog666: if you are using terminal frequently, you ought to look into either 'screen' or 'tmux' (I prefer the latteR)
[04:32] <bulldog666> ill check those out
[04:33] <Gorroth> Hey
[04:33] <bjrohan> Adzz: Well, I am trying to start a bukkit server (minecraft) it starts, but now the server throws error messages 10x / second for some reason, the last line keeps repeating: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7734787/
[04:33] <kriskropd> bulldog666: if you don't know what either are, I would start with 'tmux;
[04:33] <kriskropd> s/;/'
[04:33] <Gorroth> On the livecd, is there any sort of gui tool we can use to resize crypto partitions?  I've tried using a guide I found on ubuntu's site, but I couldn't get pvresize to work, because it was complaining that the blocks were already allocated.
[04:34] <Gorroth> I was hoping that whatever I did wrong, maybe a gui tool would do correctly.
[04:34] <ubuntu-studio> i have used gparted
[04:34] <kriskropd> bulldog666: [gnu] screen is a bit aged and ony can compete with tmux with a lot of familiarity adn configuration
[04:34] <andrew2> Xchat is great
[04:34] <Gorroth> gparted isn't for crypt partitions though
[04:34] <bjrohan> Adzz: here is the updated script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7734792/
[04:34] <kriskropd> only* and* - maybe I should go soon
[04:34] <rtnb> Hey, I'm trying to do a find and replace on a bunch of html files' links to make them https but it doesnt seem to be working, whats wrong with my command? http://pastie.org/9345540 (using sed)
[04:35] <Adzz> bjrohan: and what error are you getting?
[04:35] <ubuntu-studio> Gorroth,  i dont know. i just used it to resize an encrypted partition on 14.04 32bit yesterday. it asked for the encryption key then it let me work with the disk
[04:35] <holstein> andrew2: xchat is *not* commandline, friend.. thats the current question
[04:35] <Gorroth> ubuntu-studio: Oh really?
[04:35] <ubuntu-studio> yes
[04:35] <Gorroth> ubuntu-studio: Maybe I should try that then.  I didn't think it worked at all with crypto services.
[04:35] <andrew2> Yeah it can be
[04:36] <kriskropd> rtnb: really you should ask in #sed, however all you need to do is   sed 's/http:/https:/g'
[04:36] <rtnb> didnt know there were channels for every command :-P
[04:36] <rtnb> but thank you ill try that
[04:36] <kriskropd> rtnb: there aren't, but #bash #awk and #sed are very educational channels to hang around in :)
[04:36] <bjrohan> That last line keeps repeating over and over and over: [21:31:25] [Server thread/INFO]: Unknown command. Type "help" for help.
[04:37] <bjrohan> I am not sure what is sending it that command
[04:37] <andrew2> http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=3299
[04:37] <xpistos> 14 miles an hour
[04:37] <andrew2> Link is for xchat
[04:38] <andrew2> ...cmds via terminal
[04:38] <ubuntu-studio> so i could use some partitioning advise: i have a P4 w/ 1.2 GB DDR1, 160GB IDE, 120 GB IDE and 120 GB IDE. this system will be used as as audio production workstation. i was thinking use 1 of the 120's for "/", the 160 for /home but i dont know what's best to do with the third 120 GB
[04:38] <Gorroth> ubuntu-studio: I think you should check your LUKS partition.  I don't think gparted did what you think it did.  http://gparted.org/features.php --search for luks
[04:38] <holstein> andrew2: sure.. the question is for a command line irc client.. and xchat is not one
[04:38] <andrew2> It can be
[04:38] <andrew2> Check the link
[04:38] <Gorroth> your lvm and luks are probably in an inconsistent state
[04:39] <rtnb> kriskropd: actually I can't use that because that would modify all my external links too which I dont necessarily want to do
[04:39] <andrew2> http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=3299
[04:39] <ubuntu-studio> Gorroth,  it's possible. after resizing the drive i ended up just deleting all the partitions and starting over
[04:39] <kriskropd> rtnb: I didn't understand that from original question (plus I'm a bit tired, sorry if It was my mistake)
[04:39] <andrew2> Peep game
[04:39] <holstein> andrew2: i did.. and its not.. that is, as stated, and read, inputting text from shell/terminal to xchat.. not a CLI chat client
[04:39] <Gorroth> That's... completely the opposite of what I want.
[04:39] <andrew2> Don't put
[04:40] <andrew2> Don't player hate
[04:40] <ubuntu-studio> but it asked for the encryption key and took 45 minutes doing something
[04:40] <rtnb> kriskropd: yea im just trying to change this specific link to https.  from what i understood if I used pipes i don't need to escape the slashes, but idk first time doin it
[04:40] <kriskropd> rtnb: you can still do it tho , just include more unique address data and escape the forward slasshes  so '/' becomes '\\/'
[04:40] <andrew2> Let's you chat from a terminal
[04:40] <Gorroth> But then you ended up wiping out partitions
[04:40] <andrew2> And send the cmds to xchat
[04:40] <holstein> andrew2: sure. but that is not the question.. the question was for a CLI chat client..
[04:40] <ubuntu-studio> b4 i did that, gparted rescaned the drive and at least had the appearance that it worked
[04:40] <rtnb> kriskropd: why 2 backslashes?  I thought just one escapes it?
[04:41] <andrew2> Damn right hater
[04:41] <andrew2> Doing back flips on ya moms grave son.
[04:41] <kriskropd> rtnb: sorry, you are right, you only need one
[04:41] <holstein> andrew2: feel free and chat in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel..
[04:42] <kriskropd> guys I'm really tired I need to go = have fun
[04:42] <andrew2> Eat this vapor
[04:42] <andrew2> Night
[04:42] <xpistos> kriskropd: okay. sorry for the delay: http://pastebin.com/CUZYkmy4
[04:42] <xpistos> that is the out of the apt-get
[04:43] <makudesu> hello
[04:43] <ubuntu-studio> hi
[04:43] <makudesu> hahah
[04:43] <makudesu> im new here
[04:43] <andrew2> I'm a baby
[04:43] <andrew2> Wawahhhhh
[04:44] <ubuntu-studio> can we help you? this is the ubuntu support channel. for general ubuntu chat check out #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:44] <andrew2> Red bar homes
[04:44] <makudesu> im juxt wandering if u guys cud tell me some c programming boards here
[04:44] <cfhowlett> andrew2 ask your ubuntu questions - or go play elsewhere
[04:44] <andrew2> Www.blank.com
[04:45] <andrew2> Play in traffic
[04:45] <xpistos> andrew2: dude, so of us actually need help
[04:45] <makudesu> anyone
[04:45] <cfhowlett> !patience|makudesu
[04:45] <holstein> makudesu: try a programming channel
[04:46] <makudesu> holstein can u tell me one
[04:46] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Still "./usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-62/include/linux/netfilter/nf_conntrack_h323_asn1.h'): No space left on device"//Again need to know what partition is full,, again show -> df -h , df -i <- to start.
[04:46] <andrew2> Dude stoner dude man open source is like cosmic and stuff.
[04:46] <makudesu> please
[04:46] <Gorroth> ubuntu-studio: Yeah, but I don't think it worked for you, from what you've said.  You shouldn't say it worked fo ryou if it didn't.
[04:47] <bjrohan> Adzz: you still there and able to help? I tried something else with the script same thing, but I run the same thing after boot, and everything is fine
[04:47] <andrew2> Whoa Linux like is some next level stuff man
[04:47] <holstein> makudesu:  ##c ##programming
[04:47] <Adzz> bjrohan: I'm still here. So is it working, or?
[04:47] <andrew2>  Hash tag weed smoke
[04:48] <andrew2> This room is groovy
[04:48] <makudesu> thanks holstein
[04:48] <xpistos> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/N6YkutVF
[04:48] <bjrohan> Adzz: It is not. Here is a scipt in my home folder /home/bukkitserver/craftbukkit  :http://paste.ubuntu.com/7734834/
[04:49] <Bashing-om> xpistos: ,, looking at your N6YkutVF .
[04:49] <andrew2> Weed linux
[04:49] <bjrohan> Adzz:  If I run this script after boot, it works just fine, the server starts, no error messages
[04:49] <holstein> !ot | andrew2
[04:49] <andrew2> He's a not dude
[04:49] <ubuntu-studio> i have no reason to believe it did not work, it asked for the encryption key, it performed the operations and returned a success instead of a fail
[04:49] <andrew2> Love the man
[04:49] <Adzz> bjrohan: ok, and where is "craftbukkit-1.7.9-R0.2.jar" located? In /home/bukkitserver/craftbukkit also?
[04:50] <sanytt> Hello, sorry if this is a stupid question but does anyone else who uses nethogs spot random connections from 'root' to strange destinations that start with ellipses, and are followed by IP addresses, in my case addresses from mountain view, CA
[04:50] <andrew2> Fight the ops brother
[04:50] <xangua> andrew2: please stop
[04:50] <Adzz> bjrohan: I've just gotta reboot my PC, be back in a sec
[04:50] <bjrohan> Adzz: when I run this upstart script I get that error message when starting the server: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7734841/
[04:50] <bjrohan> Adzz: yes
[04:50] <cfhowlett> xangua don't feed trolls.  tyvm
[04:50] <xangua> he seemed nice at first
[04:51] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Did you notice the problem > "/dev/sda2             580496  579800     696  100% /" out of inodes, and can not create any additional files. // All you can do is start deleting files .. as many small ones as possible .. remove old kernels and do general clean up.
[04:51] <cfhowlett> xangua by the 3 post, he made his intent clear.  moving on ...
[04:51] <andrew2> Dude stop being part of the big government man your a damn bummer man
[04:51] <shmerby> Well holstein, if ubuntu 14 wasn't so laggy I wouldn't have gone back to UStuido
[04:52] <shmerby> Ubuntu studio
[04:52] <andrew2> Dude my intent is like ri smoke more frigging weed dog
[04:52] <holstein> shmerby: 14.04
[04:52] <xpistos> Bashing-om: the two outputs are showing different percentages
[04:52] <bryan> I replied holstein
[04:52] <shmerby> holstein: Same version, super lag.
[04:52] <holstein> shmerby: its not "laggy" here, though, im sure you have a hardware specific circumstance.
[04:52] <andrew2> Purple haze Linux would str8 up rock
[04:52] <andrew2> Your mom lags
[04:53] <shmerby> holstein: I tried RAM Method USB and DVD
[04:53] <cfhowlett> holstein about the end of the rope, yes?
[04:53] <Adzz> bjrohan: Ok, back
[04:53] <holstein> shmerby: sure.. but, thats not addressing hardware support, which was likely the issue
[04:53] <andrew2> Dude apple computer was built on like acid and the music of the doors man
[04:53] <bjrohan> Adzz: yes the jar file is in that saem dir as the bash script
[04:54] <andrew2> Yeah have seen me on TV dawg ?
[04:54] <shmerby> holstein: true I got high end memory but when you get to the motherboard and CPU its gets bad but GPU is top of line.
[04:54] <Gorroth> My CPU is an AMD FX 6350, and I like it a lot.
[04:54] <bjrohan> Adzz:  When I call that same script in my upstart script the server starts and throws that error 10x/ second, here is my upstart script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7734841/
[04:54] <andrew2> I was on the seventies show tripping ballz yo
[04:54] <holstein> shmerby: "top of the line" doesnt matter.. it only matters if it provides linux support or not
[04:54] <Gorroth> I forget what the mobo is right now, but it's a really nice one for the price.
[04:54] <Adzz> bjrohan: Ok, could you send me the pastebin again which had your bash code in it, for the craftbukkit.sh
[04:54] <andrew2> My CPU rocks man.
[04:55] <mido> do you know guys that windows 9 will come on april 2015 :D
[04:55] <Gorroth> "top of the line" does matter, but it should still support linux
[04:55] <xpistos> Bashing-om: I am not sure why it shows 100% on one and 70% on the other
[04:55] <shmerby> andrew2: how are  not banned?
[04:55] <Gorroth> I woudln't want crap hardware that supports linux; I went through that a decade ago in my college years.
[04:55] <andrew2> Windoze suxor get Linux freeeeedom
[04:55] <cfhowlett> mido #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:55] <mido> ubuntu is complicated
[04:56] <bjrohan> Adzz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7734834/
[04:56] <andrew2> Cause I'm awesome and bring you joyful expression of humor
[04:56] <cfhowlett> mido ask your ubuntu support question
[04:56] <andrew2> Ubuntu is easy
[04:56] <bjrohan> Adzz: again running that bash, the server starts perfectly
[04:56] <Gorroth> Personally, I'm not a fan of that bash script.
[04:56] <shmerby> Mido: If you want superuser control over the internet and PC take linux (red pill) If you want no control just download and use then use windows. (blue pill)
[04:56] <Gorroth> Here
[04:56] <Bashing-om> xpistos: the output of df -i shows 'inode' usage. each file created gets it's own inode - at 100% usage there are no inodes left to creat any additional files.
[04:56] <andrew2> Ubuntu makes there own guides in case a Tard can't figure it out.
[04:57] <andrew2> Noob
[04:57] <Adzz> bjrohan: try this for your upstart http://paste.ubuntu.com/7734868/
[04:57] <Gorroth> Here's the reason: it uses readlink, which is different on OS X, Solaris, etc.  I would rather that script be in python so you get platform abstraction.
[04:57] <cfhowlett> !ops | andrew2
[04:57] <xpistos> Bashing-om: Let me check on what I can get rid of
[04:57] <pdo_fn14> mido: I will ban everything to using it again. Open source is like puzzle.
[04:57] <Bashing-om> xpistos: creat/create
[04:58] <xpistos> Bashing-om: what is that?
[04:58] <genii> andrew2: Don't use derogatory terms like "Tard" or you will be removed
[04:58] <andrew2> Bashing in skulls
[04:58] <mido> pdo_fn14 : problem in ubuntu that have lots of order and no Games like on windows and ps4
[04:59] <oldvirus> wanker
[04:59] <andrew2> Wine
[04:59] <xangua> mido: do you have a support question¿
[04:59] <andrew2> Wanker mega ultra
[04:59] <genii> andrew2: Also, this is a support channel. If you just want to yack, there's #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:59] <cfhowlett> mido are you serious?  steam has HUNDREDS of games
[04:59] <cfhowlett> !steam | mido
[04:59] <genii> oldvirus: That goes for you also.
[04:59] <mido> xangua : yes, can i using 3d unity on linux ?
[05:00] <holstein> mido: if your hardware supports linux you can
[05:00] <andrew2> Back
[05:00] <mido> you mean games like thief , assassin creed ?
[05:00] <andrew2> Steam
[05:00] <cfhowlett> !steam | lido
[05:00] <dcope> hey all, is there a way to rm a bunch of directories matching a pattern?
[05:00] <holstein> mido: anyone or any company can release what they like for linux.. as them for a version
[05:00] <andrew2> Basicly
[05:00] <dcope> ie remove all directories starting with a "9"
[05:01] <mido> ok my problem there iam not familiar with linux and ifeel like iam living on home not mine
[05:01] <andrew2> Remove mido
[05:01] <Bashing-om> xpistos: typo correction on my part 'create' // you are looking at device sda, which is the '/' directory in this case // might be possible to remove kernels and headers ( maybe, as installing kernels is what showed up the situation) .. I am hesitant to offer ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' untill the package manager is stable.
[05:01] <oldvirus> steam and the cloud
[05:01] <andrew2> Lol
[05:01] <mido> ireaaly want to know more about linux but ifound it complicated
[05:01] <cfhowlett> !manual|mido
[05:01] <holstein> mido: sure.. it takes time.. what are you familiar with? windows?
[05:01] <andrew2> I'm steam mad I don't like the cloud
[05:01] <xpistos> I tried autoremove and it prompted me to -f too
[05:02] <mido> yes
[05:02] <holstein> mido: think about how long you used windows "as-is" without installing much, or a game.. and how many years you have invested in using it.. using linux is different and will require a similar investment of time
[05:02] <andrew2> Got some cash mido ?
[05:02] <xpistos> I also tried to get rid of the old kernals sudo apt-get remove linux-headers-3 ... no luck
[05:02] <andrew2isabully> andrew2: why you mean?
[05:03] <mido> andrew2 : why ?
[05:03] <andrew2> Buy Ubuntu for dummies not being mean
[05:03] <holstein> mido: please ignore andrew2
[05:03] <bjrohan> Adzz: it ran it as root :-(
[05:03] <andrew2isabully> holstein: how do you mute peeps?
[05:03] <Bashing-om> xpistos: understandable .. ummmm.. we can try to remove kernels and headers and see what results .. show us -> dpkg -l | grep linux- <- . maybe "dpkg -P" can deal with it.
[05:04] <mido> holstein : its not you who tell me ignore who O.o
[05:04] <holstein> !freenode | andrew2isabully
[05:04] <holstein> mido: it was not a command.. but a request.. i even used "please"..
[05:04] <bjrohan> Adzz: okay not as root, the java PID is run as bukkitserver. But when it loaded it failed, and put the log (tha normally goes in /bukkitserver/craftbukkit/log) in /log
[05:04] <andrew2isabully> !guidelines
[05:05] <mido> holstein : ooh ok my fault
[05:06] <xpistos> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7734900/
[05:06] <xpistos> That was alot of kernels
[05:06] <xpistos> I thought I cleaned those out
[05:07] <Bashing-om> xpistos: looking at your /7734900/.
[05:07] <mido> holstein : why your name is colored with yellow ??
[05:07] <Adzz> bjrohan: Is that a big issue? We can redirect the output of stderr and stdout manually but I'm just wondering if it could cause any other issues...
[05:07] <mido> holstein : are you admin there or somthing ?
[05:07] <andrew2isabully> mido:  Because we are awesome.
[05:07] <holstein> mido: im not sure how you have your irc client configured
[05:07] <jak2000> cant create wp-content/uploads/2014/07 folder, the "ls -l" show me these results: drwxr-xr-x 2 jak ftp 4096 Jun 22 17:40 uploads   wich is wrong?
[05:08] <mido> irc ??? what do you mean
[05:08] <andrew2isabully> !guidelines l mido
[05:08] <holstein> mido: whatever irc chat client you have can be configured, likely, to display names in colors..
[05:09] <andrew2isabully> !guide mido
[05:10] <mido> ok iam downloading it
[05:10] <andrew2isabully> Hey guys
[05:10] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Not as many kernels as I had expected. post back to the channel -> uname -r <- so we know what kernel you are booting with, MUST not remove that one !.
[05:10] <andrew2isabully> #ubottu
[05:10] <bjrohan> Adzz: I suppose not, I had just figured that meant things weren't running right, but I do suppose they are. How do I redirect those 2?
[05:10] <cfhowlett> andrew2isabully ask your ubuntu question
[05:10] <xpistos> Bashing-om: 2.6.32-57-generic-pae
[05:11] <xpistos> Bashing-om: I tried to get rid of 2.6.32-32 no luck same dependancy stuff
[05:11] <Bashing-om> xpistos: k, hang onn while I craft up the command to remove the kernels. brb.
[05:12] <Adzz> bjrohan: at the end of the exec line put " &> /path/to/log/file"
[05:12] <xpistos> Bashing-om: Sometimes I type to quick
[05:12] <bjrohan> Adzz: And then lastly, I want it to run in a detached screen with name server: screen -dmS server _______
[05:12] <bjrohan> okay will do
[05:12] <Adzz> bjrohan: im not sure about that, sorry
[05:12] <xpistos> Bashing-om: I was using sudo apt-get remove linux-headers-2.6.32-32
[05:13] <mido> what's the most common system on america ??
[05:13] <cfhowlett> mido windows
[05:13] <cfhowlett> mido ask your UBUNTU support questions
[05:14] <mido> i just want to chat nothing more
[05:14] <makudexu> hi
[05:14] <cfhowlett> !ot|mido
[05:14] <Bashing-om> xpistos: With no head room // apt-get may not have been able to work - that command normally shoould have worked .. will try the lower level 'dpkg' // work'n on it .
[05:15] <xpistos> Bashing-om: I appreciate it
[05:15] <Shmerby> cfhowlett: are you on a QWERT keyboard?
[05:15] <cfhowlett> Shmerby ?  standard american style laptop keyboard ...
[05:16] <Shmerby> cfhowlett: where is that straight line thing?
[05:16]  * xpistos is getting annoyed with Sherby or Andrew2 or who ever she is
[05:16] <cfhowlett> Shmerby above Enter
[05:16] <mido>  "/topic"
[05:16] <Shmerby> !op | xpistos
[05:17] <Shmerby> !guidelines | xpistos
[05:17] <Ben64> Shmerby, xpistos: relax
[05:17] <xpistos> Ben64: Sorry. I am just dealing with a real issue. Won
[05:17] <Shmerby> Ben64: hes is blaming for nothing.
[05:17] <xpistos> Ben64: What happen again
[05:17] <xpistos> Ben64: Won't happen again
[05:17] <Shmerby> xpistos: what did I do?
[05:17] <makudexu> kill
[05:17] <genii> Shmerby: Please don't abuse the !ops or you'll have to go.
[05:18] <makudexu> :ps
[05:18] <Shmerby> But I only did it twice.
[05:18] <Shmerby> Then stopped.
[05:18] <makudexu> hey guys how can i ype a bash command while using irc
[05:18] <genii> Shmerby: Someone being annoyed with you is not an emergency.
[05:19] <Shmerby> !bash
[05:19] <Shmerby> That solved my question thanks ubottu.
[05:20] <Ben64> makudexu: depends on your client, but sometimes you can do /exec <command>
[05:20] <makudexu> i dont have gui now please tell how how
[05:20] <q0> where can i ask a terminal related questio
[05:20] <mido> how can i change the channel to other channel speaking arabic ??
[05:20] <makudexu> oh thanks it works
[05:20] <cfhowlett> !arabic
[05:20] <genii> q0: If it's a scripting questin, probably #bash
[05:21] <genii> cfhowlett: Those channels are empty
[05:21] <makudexu> bg % 24193
[05:21] <genii> mido: Unfortunately, the Arabic channels have no helpers in them.
[05:21] <makudexu> sorry
[05:21] <q0> no, just how to set the cursor focus
[05:21] <Bashing-om> xpistos: 1st of three -> sudo dpkg -P linux-image-2.6.32-{33,46,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56}-generic-pae <- let's see how that runs.
[05:21] <shmerby> #ubottu
[05:22] <genii> q0: Then here is fine :)
[05:22] <xpistos> Hey. Just as a public apology, I thought  shmerby was the guy spamming before Andrew2. Sorry dude.
[05:22] <q0> so how do i set cursor focus :)
[05:23] <xpistos> Bashing-om: Looks promising so far
[05:24] <mido> can the system linux can be attacked by hackers like in windows ?
[05:24] <q0> no
[05:24] <Bashing-om> xpistos: next is the headers // both types // workin on the command.
[05:25] <mido> so linux have no mistakes at all !!! amazing
[05:25] <genii> mido: There are attacks, yes, but not in the way Windows machines are usually attacked, like with viruses.
[05:25] <q0> god made it so
[05:25] <xpistos> Bashing-om: It is just chuggin right along
[05:25] <mido> genii : so what can i do to protect my self ?
[05:25] <Channel_Service> !flam
[05:25] <Channel_Service> !help
[05:25] <genii> mido: Unless you are running a linux server, you probably don't need to worry about it.
[05:26] <Channel_Service> su
[05:26] <genii> mido: To protect against attacks, use only packages that come from offical repositories when possible.
[05:26] <xpistos> Bashing-om: it also looks like there was some Vbox stuff affecting the kernals as well
[05:27] <Channel_Service> Whats the code for removing
[05:27] <bjrohan> Adzz: The screen side of the script worked, however the logging didn't therefore it didn't start the server correctly. I rebooted, and will post the error message here. when it reboots
[05:27] <genii> Channel_Service: rm
[05:27] <Channel_Service> sudo apt-get remove?
[05:27] <genii> Channel_Service: For a package, yes
[05:28] <Bashing-om> 2nd of 3 -> sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-2.6.32-{32,33,34,35,38,39,40,41,42,44,45,46,46,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56}-generic-pae <- //know nothing about vbox.//
[05:29] <Channel_Service> IDle
[05:29] <Channel_Service> !idle
[05:29] <mido> whats is this problem (This program must be run as root (uid = 0) )
[05:29] <genii> Channel_Service: Try: /away
[05:29] <bjrohan> Adzz:  you here?
[05:30] <genii> mido: What are you trying to do?
[05:30] <mido> KVPM (iam trieng to open this program)
[05:31] <genii> mido: That's for KDE. If you are using KDE/Kubuntu, run it with kdesudo
[05:31] <genii> mido: Like kdesudo kvpm
[05:31] <xpistos> Bashing-om: it went a while and then ended here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7734973/
[05:32] <mido> sorry idon't understand ... its my second day on ubuntu so!
[05:33] <genii> !sudo
[05:33] <mido> genii : ok thanks
[05:34] <genii> mido: Do you know what you are using for your desktop? Regular Ubuntu uses Unity, but you can install different ones like KDE if you installed kubuntu-desktop or XFCE if you installed xubuntu-desktop, etc
[05:34] <genii> mido: Different desktop interfaces have different ways of interaction.
[05:36] <mido> how can i know which desktop iam using
[05:36] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Chance are we are looking good.. let's se what the statis is now with a new -> df -i <-.
[05:36] <Bashing-om> see
[05:36] <vychune> im having trouble writing files to /var/www. Neither the admin or I can write to it. We've even done the 777 dumba** permissions and still cannot write. Any idea why?
[05:36] <diverdude> Hi, when installing ubuntu from scratch it is born with a user that has /home/username. This user belongs to a group called username. Is this group a sudo group? And also, is this default user also a member of other groups?
[05:38] <genii> mido: If you google "unity screenshot" and then "kde screenshot" you can probably see the difference
[05:38] <vychune> diverdude, it is not a sudo group
[05:38] <genii> mido: Also, if you issue: apt-cache policy kubuntu-desktop  it will tell you if it's installed
[05:38] <diverdude> vychune, ok...so its just the user which is a sudo and then member of that default group with the same name as the username .... and thats it right?
[05:39] <vychune> diverdude, righto
[05:39] <xpistos> it still shows it as 100%
[05:39] <xpistos> I was able to run apt-get update ok
[05:39] <mido> iwant to change to kde desktop .. it looks familiar with me . how please ?
[05:40] <jak2000> how to solve this problem: sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu1204
[05:40] <genii> mido: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install lightdm-kde-greeter
[05:41] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Not good ! // -> dpkg -l grep ;inux-image <- see if the images have been removed.
[05:41] <diverdude> vychune, thx
[05:41] <Bashing-om> linux-image** / tired, not doing to well myself .
[05:41] <bjrohan> I have an upstart script that sets runs as an unprivileged user. When the script stops I want to remove the upstart log (as the script starts a server, and generates a big upstart log file), which I need to be root for. how do I go about doing this?
[05:42] <genii> mido: Then after your next restart, you can choose from the login which desktop you want. I have in the command there to change the login to the default Kubuntu one as well
[05:42] <vychune> jak2000, sounds like your hostname is wrong
[05:42] <mido> genii : E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:42] <mido> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:43] <genii> mido: Your machine is probably running updates right now.
[05:43] <xpistos> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7735010/
[05:43] <vychune> mido, check if another install is running, bruh
[05:43] <mido> genii : ah yes you are right
[05:43] <jak2000> vychune: sudo vim /etc/hostname    change the name right?
[05:44] <vychune> jak2000, i believe so
[05:44] <genii> jak2000: Or just use the hostname command
[05:44] <jak2000> chenged the name , bbut command: hostname continue say: ubuntu1204  why
[05:44] <jak2000> ?
[05:44] <Bashing-om> xpistos: look'n at your /7735010.
[05:45] <jak2000> jak@ubuntu1204:/var/www/altasierraorg.com/wp/wp-content$ sudo hostname jakServer  say me: sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu1204 why?
[05:46] <vychune> genii, jak2000 dns?
[05:46] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Now run ammended ->  sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-2.6.32-{32,33,34,35,38,39,40,41,42,44,45,46,46,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,}-generic-pae // will have to fix the kernel image (56) directly.
[05:46] <genii> jak2000: You also need to change the name in the /etc/hosts
[05:47] <hoijui> my touchpad is stuck in "scroll mode" somehow (using it scrolls, instead of moving the mouse pointer)
[05:48] <Bashing-om> xpistos: looks like we removed the kernwl you were booting on // remember I did ask what kernel you were booting.
[05:48] <hoijui> i dont know if it is some application, or the OS
[05:48] <hoijui> how to make it move the mouse pointer again?
[05:48] <xpistos> it was 56 I thought
[05:48] <vychune> im having trouble writing files to /var/www. Neither the admin or I can write to it. We've even done the 777 dumba** permissions and still cannot write. Any idea why?
[05:48] <jak2000> genii done.
[05:48] <xpistos> Bashing-om: Is there anything I can do to put it back?
[05:49] <genii> xpistos: Are you able to boot at all?
[05:49] <xpistos> I have not rebooted since so not sure?
[05:49] <Bashing-om> xpistos: we will put it back here directly .. that last completes, and one other sequence and we try and rebuild.
[05:50] <xpistos> it is done
[05:50] <genii> xpistos: Then just do: sudo apt-get install linux-image-$(uname -r)
[05:50] <jak2000> genni i try upload a file on my wordpress installation, when try say me these error: Unable to create directory wp-content/uploads/2014/07. Is its parent directory writable by the server?  i try:  jak@ubuntu1204:/var/www/altasierraorg.com/wp/wp-content$ sudo chmod 757 uploads/ -R      but continue the error.. any advice?
[05:50] <genii> xpistos: And your currently running kernel will be reinstalled
[05:51] <Bashing-om> xpistos: ->  sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-2.6.32-{32,33,34,35,38,39,40,41,42,44,45,46,46,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55, // may have already been removed, not sure .. but cheap insurance to run and see.
[05:52] <xpistos> Bashing-om: Do I run that or should I do the install command genii rec'd
[05:52] <Bashing-om> xpistos: correction:  sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-2.6.32-{32,33,34,35,38,39,40,41,42,44,45,46,46,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,} <- .
[05:53] <genii> xpistos: If it's headers, just use same command I gave but substitute -image- for -headers-
[05:53] <genii> vice-versa rather
[05:54] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Yeah, soon as this last completes, that one and we need to get the header files straightened up too.
[05:54] <xpistos> done
[05:54] <xpistos> dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove linux-headers-2.6.32- which isn't installed.
[05:55] <xpistos> Bashing-om: but it looks like everything else ran fine
[05:58] <Bashing-om> xpistos: wait 2 // whileI check .. brb.
[05:59] <xpistos> Bashing-om: to be clear, I didn't run genii's command yet though
[05:59] <vychune> ubnoobtu, cool username
[05:59] <Bashing-om> xpistos: No problem .. let's try this first -> sudo apt-get install linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic < - .
[05:59] <ubnoobtu> hey all, Is there any way to hide all the bars in all the windows. Hi btw.
[05:59] <ubnoobtu> vychune: thank you, im noobish
[06:02] <vychune> change your theme? ubnoobtu
[06:02] <ubnoobtu> which would be the best theme to avoid all bars, Even bars on windows, Can they auto hide?
[06:06] <xangua> ubnoobtu: what kind of bars are you refering to
[06:08] <xpistos> Bashing-om: ok that is done
[06:08] <ubnoobtu> Say if Im playing a game, I'd like to remove the bar up above it, and the title bar for the game, so that even in window mode, its like in fullscreen. To allow me to bring up docs, videos or anything in the forefront,
[06:08] <ubnoobtu> I'd like to have it so that they auto hide or require a hotkey to be pressed to reveal them
[06:09] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Great, let's see where we stand -> sudo dpkg -l | grep linux- , df -i <- .
[06:09] <bjrohan> In an upstart script, how do I return permission back to root after an unprivileged user?
[06:11] <xpistos> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7735157/
[06:11] <xpistos> Bashing-om: And uname -r gives me 2.6.32-57-generic-pae
[06:14] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Look'n at your /7735157/ ... maybe the problem was no -57 headers file installed ( // ) // I be back after seeing the new status. and we do final cleanup.
[06:15] <xpistos> Bashing-om: Ok
[06:15] <xpistos> Bashing-om: Holding Steady
[06:19] <anton02> how do you install intel 32bit opengl compatibility libraries?
[06:19] <anton02> most likely your 32-bit OpenGL drivers haven't been installed correctly (using GL renderer "Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Mobile ", version "1.4 (3.0 Mesa 10.1.3)").
[06:21] <Bashing-om> xpistos: still no -57 headers, but let's house clean, see if we can update/upgrade then to correct the issue (??) -> sudo apt-get autoclean , sudo apt-get autoremove , sudo apt-get clean , sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , apt-get -f install <- .
[06:23] <jerrt> any idea where I can ask about an ssh issue? key pair works on ubuntu, doesn't work when copied over to win box. so not exactly an ubuntu thing...
[06:23] <anton02> how do you install intel 32bit opengl compatibility libraries?
[06:23] <anton02> most likely your 32-bit OpenGL drivers haven't been installed correctly (using GL renderer "Mesa DRI Intel(R) Sandybridge Mobile ", version "1.4 (3.0 Mesa 10.1.3)").
[06:26] <xpistos> Bashing-om: still going strong on upgrade
[06:27] <anton02> how do you install intel 32bit opengl compatibility libraries?
[06:27] <hateball> !patience | anton02
[06:28] <hateball> anton02: Do you get this message starting some application?
[06:28] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Looking good then ! .. may still have to resort to  genii's command and give the package manager a helping hand, we will see.
[06:29] <anton02> i will install this and see if it fixes libegl1-mesa-drivers-dbg
[06:30] <xpistos> Bashing-om: running dist-upgrade
[06:30] <anddam> I have a 12.04LTS with "Notify me of a new Ubuntu version" set to LTS, why isn't it suggesting there's 14.04LTS out?
[06:30] <hateball> anton02: A googling suggests libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 but that should already be installed if you're using Intel iirc
[06:30] <hateball> anddam: It won't until 14.04.1
[06:30] <anddam> hateball: how so? isn't 14.04 a version as well?
[06:30] <anddam> just asking
[06:31] <hateball> anddam: It's apparently how it is, I don't remember the logic behind it. There are ways of forcing an upgrade tho
[06:31] <anddam> hateball: I found this laptop not used for like a year and now I'm updating it, I checked the website and saw 14.04LTS
[06:31] <xpistos> Bashing-om: that is done and no on to apt-get -f install
[06:31] <anddam> hateball: sure, I can remove the LTS only setting
[06:33] <xpistos> Bashing-om: that looks good
[06:33] <Bashing-om> xpistos: so far so good, what now does 'dpkg' see for problems ( if any) -> sudo dpkg -C <-.
[06:33] <anddam> oh it actually suggests me 12.10
[06:33] <anddam> should I go through each release while upgrading?
[06:33] <hateball> anddam: Yes, that's how it goes. But you can "do-release-upgrade -d", it should put you on 14.04 and not 14.10
[06:34] <xpistos> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7735229/
[06:34] <hateball> anddam: ... or wait for the patched 14.04, aka 14.04.1 :)
[06:34] <anton02> hateball: the package i mentioned fixed mah problem, having said that im using mint 17. so maybe it's not auto installed like in ubunut
[06:34] <Bashing-om> anddam: The upgrade to 14.04 will not be available 'til the 1st point release 14.04.1 July 27th.
[06:37] <m000gle> Is there a command to reset the window scaling to 1.  The scaling was increased and the Appearance window is too large for the screen, making it impossible to change via the GUI.
[06:38] <Bashing-om> xpistos: looks like we do not now need to be concerned with the -57 headers file, huh .. -> dpkg -C <- (??) .
[06:38] <xpistos> dpkg -C just returned a line
[06:38] <xpistos> no data
[06:39] <xpistos> Bashing-om: should I try and reboot it?
[06:39] <Bashing-om> xpistos: All fine good and dany .. reboot and let's see the result ..
[06:39] <Bashing-om> dandy*
[06:39] <xpistos> cross you toes!
[06:41] <Bashing-om> xpistos: Faith !
[06:41] <moussa> hey gogoat welcome back bro....thanks for the help
[06:41] <xpistos> Bashing-om: Smoke 'em if you Got 'em!
[06:42] <xpistos> Bashing-om: I am ssh in the box once again
[06:42] <gogoat10^2> lol
[06:42] <moussa> i managed to restore all my files thanks to you....
[06:43] <moussa> what *.sh do?
[06:43] <kaitanya> moussa: a sh/bash script
[06:44] <kaitanya> moussa: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[06:46] <kaitanya> moussa: u can start with this one for example http://blog.twistedcode.org/2008/03/customizing-your-bash-prompt.html
[06:46] <moussa> oh ok thanks
[06:46] <moussa> too hard for me
[06:46] <Bashing-om> xpistos: We do good work // At a later time, will have to once more remove images and headers // for now, finer than a frog's hair !
[06:46] <moussa> running on fumes here
[06:46] <winsoff> Tiananmen Square?
[06:46] <gogoat10^2> custom colors
[06:47] <xpistos> Bashing-om: Thank you sir.  I had good teachers !
[06:48] <KODL> tiananmen square
[06:50] <gogoat10^2> sudo apt-get install ping-pong
[06:50] <moussa> lol
[06:51] <moussa> not found....
[06:51] <gogoat10^2> use aptitude search 'ping-pong'
[06:51] <moussa> oh
[06:51] <gogoat10^2> sudo apt-get install aptitude
[06:52] <gogoat10^2> ... then :)... aptitude install ping-pong
[06:52] <moussa> sudo apt-cache search ping|grep pong?
[06:52] <gogoat10^2> grep -i ping_pong
[06:53] <moussa> ok
[06:53] <moussa> sudo updatedb
[06:53] <moussa> sudo grep i ping_pong
[06:54] <moussa> oh
[06:54] <moussa> sudo grep -i ping_pong
[06:54] <gogoat10^2> .. and then apt-get install ping-pong ppm repositorys
[06:54] <moussa> ok
[06:54] <moussa> 1sec
[06:54] <moussa> ....
[06:54] <moussa> why am i installing ping-pong?
[06:54] <gogoat10^2> .. 30 sec.. 31
[06:55] <moussa> huh!
[06:55] <gogoat10^2> cause no one knows how to install traceroute
[06:55] <mido> hi guys , ican't install graphic driver !!! any help
[06:55] <gogoat10^2> close enough
[06:57] <moussa> mido> what kind of graphic card you have?
[07:03] <mido> mousa : ati radeon hd 4350 series
[07:03] <mido> moussa : ati radeon hd 4350 series
[07:04] <mido> i downloaded (linux-amd-catalyst-14.6-beta-v1.0-may23.zip) but idon't know the next step
[07:05] <Ben64> !ati | mido
[07:10] <Bashing-om> mido: AMD has dropped support for the 2X/3X/4X series of cards. After 12.04.1 release there are no proprietary drivers available.
[07:10] <leeyaa> hello
[07:11] <leeyaa> is there an easy way to make apt install packages and configuration files at a custom directory ?
[07:11] <leeyaa> without rebuilding from source package
[07:12] <bazhang> leeyaa, why would you possibly need that
[07:12] <leeyaa> bazhang: i have a custom build software that i am going to upgrade its dependancies and packages to use default versions coming with ubuntu 14.04 LTS. currently everything is at /usr/local
[07:13] <leeyaa> my question is is it possible to change that
[07:13] <A_Pickle> Hi.
[07:13] <bazhang> what custom software is this leeyaa
[07:13] <A_Pickle> So I'm trying to set up a LAMP stack on my Ubuntu Server, and I'm having trouble with MySQL.
[07:13] <untitled> maybe
[07:14] <leeyaa> bazhang: what do you mean ? it is custom build, like build and designed 10y ago
[07:14] <A_Pickle> It wants the password for the root user, but... Ubuntu doesn't ask me to set a password for the root user.
[07:14] <A_Pickle> I never set it.
[07:14] <bazhang> it's sudo
[07:14] <leeyaa> atm we are using ubuntu 6 and we are upgrading to ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[07:14] <bazhang> 6.06?
[07:14] <A_Pickle> sudo is the default root password on ubuntu?
[07:14] <leeyaa> yeah
[07:14] <leeyaa> so is it possible to set custom paths ?
[07:15] <bazhang> use sudo, dont set a root
[07:15] <A_Pickle> Oh
[07:15] <A_Pickle> Yeah, I get that, but MySQL is asking me for the root password nonetheless.
[07:15] <A_Pickle> I'm supposed to be able to push enter if there is no root password (which there isn't, because I'm not using root)
[07:15] <leeyaa> A_Pickle: mysql has its own password and you can easily reset it if needed
[07:15] <A_Pickle> Okay, maybe I should back up.
[07:16] <A_Pickle> I'm trying to set up an OwnCloud server.
[07:16] <wrd> is it possible to mount an ext3 file system image as a user and writing files with uid 0 (root) (I want to avoid fakeroot usage)
[07:16] <A_Pickle> I've installed apache, and I'd moved on to installing and configuring mysql
[07:16] <hateball> A_Pickle: mysql has its own users, the db root is different from your system root
[07:17] <A_Pickle> Hmm...
[07:17] <k1l> A_Pickle: "ubuntu 6" is ubuntu 6.06? that is end-of-life since 2011
[07:17] <A_Pickle> I'm using Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS
[07:17] <bazhang> k1l, its leeyaa
[07:17] <leeyaa> k1l: im the one using ubuntu 6.06, and im going to upgrade stacks to 14.04 LTS
[07:18] <leeyaa> well, rebuild them from scratch
[07:18] <k1l> A_Pickle: oh sorry, was mixing nicknames :/
[07:18] <leeyaa> but i need to know how to set custom paths for packages
[07:18] <ikonia> leeyaa: how did you set the paths in the packages you built the first time ?
[07:18] <leeyaa> ikonia: build them manually, no debs
[07:18] <ikonia> leeyaa: so wht are you trying to do now ?
[07:18] <k1l> leeyaa: honestly: make a backup of stuff you still need  and make a clean install of 14.04. that is way faster and easier
[07:18] <leeyaa> and thats what we want to avoid now
[07:19] <ikonia> leeyaa: exactly what do you want to do ? make .deb's ?
[07:19] <leeyaa> ikonia: no, use default ubuntu packages instead of our custom build ones. i cant replace all but i need to replace stuff like apache, memcached etc
[07:19] <ikonia> leeyaa: so what's stopping you ?
[07:19] <ikonia> sorry this is quite hard to understand what you actually want ?
[07:20] <leeyaa> ikonia: all the software is located at /usr/local including some dependancies and libraries. i need to know if it is possible to change apt paths
[07:20] <ikonia> leeyaa: no
[07:20] <helmut_> hi
[07:20] <leeyaa> ikonia: no at all ?
[07:20] <ikonia> leeyaa: the packages you install have the paths the files they use as part of the package
[07:21] <leeyaa> ikonia: what if i rebuild it from source deb package ?
[07:21] <ikonia> leeyaa: then they will not be the ubuntu packages, they will be your custom packages
[07:21] <leeyaa> ikonia: i see
[07:21] <leeyaa> so not possible to customise paths, darn
[07:22] <ikonia> I don't know why you need custom paths, sorry, I don't understand why you need custom paths
[07:22] <leeyaa> ikonia: because whatever software we are using is looking at /usr/local/whatever
[07:22] <ikonia> leeyaa: change it then
[07:22] <leeyaa> not possible, too long to explain
[07:23] <ikonia> leeyaa: there are certainly much bigger things to be aware of such as the differences between (for example) apache 1 in 6.06 or apache 2 in 14.04
[07:23] <ikonia> that can have a significant impact on your application
[07:23] <leeyaa> ikonia: its apache 2.1, some are upgraded some time ago
[07:23] <ikonia> leeyaa: again so 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - differences
[07:24] <leeyaa> yeah ik
[07:24] <leeyaa> i guess it will be fun
[07:24] <leeyaa> anyway
[07:24] <A_Pickle> MySQL is trying to use root@localhost
[07:24] <leeyaa> A_Pickle: try #mysql
[07:24] <ikonia> A_Pickle: mysql does not use root@localhost it's a database
[07:25] <ikonia> A_Pickle: a client uses user@host, and the user/host part is what you provide
[07:25] <k1l> A_Pickle: use the database passwords you selected when starting the database
[07:25] <A_Pickle> Okay
[07:26] <A_Pickle> So I ran
[07:26] <A_Pickle> sudo /usr/bin/mysql_secure_installation
[07:26] <A_Pickle> It said
[07:26] <A_Pickle> NOTE: RUNNING ALL PARTS OF THIS SCRIPT IS RECOMMENDED FOR ALL MySQL
[07:26] <A_Pickle>       SERVERS IN PRODUCTION USE!  PLEASE READ EACH STEP CAREFULLY!
[07:26] <A_Pickle> In order to log into MySQL to secure it, we'll need the current
[07:26] <A_Pickle> password for the root user.  If you've just installed MySQL, and
[07:26] <A_Pickle> you haven't set the root password yet, the password will be blank,
[07:26] <A_Pickle> so you should just press enter here.
[07:27] <A_Pickle> So you guys are positive that this is MySQL referring to the MySQL user called "root," and not the system user called root?
[07:27] <ikonia> A_Pickle: it is the mysql root user
[07:27] <A_Pickle> Okay.
[07:27] <ikonia> A_Pickle: and there can be many root accounts on mysql
[07:28] <k1l> A_Pickle: you installed mysql with the ubuntu package from ubuntu?
[07:38] <A_Pickle> I'm... I'm not sure if I did.
[07:38] <A_Pickle> I installed mysql
[07:38] <A_Pickle> sudo apt-get install mysql-server libapache2-mod-auth-mysql php5-mysql
[07:38] <A_Pickle> With that command.
[07:39] <A_Pickle> I'm following a tutorial, for 12.04 LTS.  I figured it would be applicable, and that I could learn by getting my hands dirty.
[07:39] <A_Pickle> It never prompted me to set a password for the MySQL user "root" during install.
[07:40] <A_Pickle> Man, I need more monitors.
[07:44] <A_Pickle> So, "sudo" and "#mysql" do not work as mysql passwords.
[07:44] <A_Pickle> When using the "mysql -u -p" bit
[07:45] <hateball> The user is most likely root, and the install *should* have prompted you to create one
[07:45] <hateball> a password, that is
[07:45] <hateball> !sudo
[07:45] <hateball> Again, totally separate from mysql root/users
[07:46] <hateball> A_Pickle: If no password has been set, try "mysqladmin -u root password NEWPASSWORD"
[07:46] <hateball> replacing newpassword with something better, obviously
[07:46] <A_Pickle> I tried dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5
[07:46] <A_Pickle> And that gave me an option to change the password.
[07:47] <Buby> HOLA
[07:47] <A_Pickle> Is dpkg-reconfigure sort of the command line equivalent of doing a reinstall, or a "change" from the Windows Add/Remove Programs list?
[07:48] <A_Pickle> YEAAAHHHH
[07:48] <A_Pickle> Success, my friends.
[07:48] <A_Pickle> I thank you for your assistance in moving an Ubuntu n00b a few steps forward.
[07:48] <A_Pickle> IRC is the best.
[07:50] <A_Pickle> So, onto the next step of my OwnCloud installation.
[07:50] <A_Pickle> If you were installing PHP, what would you do?
[07:50] <A_Pickle> What command would you use?
[07:51] <leeyaa> you need a web server that is capable of serving php
[07:51] <A_Pickle> Yeah
[07:51] <A_Pickle> Wait, what does that mean?
[07:51] <arlekin> hi there, shame on me i know but i found someting like &> in my old bash script and know im wondering what was it for ? i guess it is something like "redirect both stdout and stderr to.."
 I know what I want to do on this thing, and I'm... excited to get it up and running.
[07:54] <ciber05> s
[07:54] <A_Pickle> Are there any good tutorials that you'd recommend I try before jumping into that?
[07:54] <leeyaa> http://www.davelachapelle.ca/guides/owncloud-ubuntu-nginx-setup-guide/
[07:54] <leeyaa> there you go
[07:54] <f3lix1> I'm trying to reboot an EC2 instance from ssh, but it never completes. I have to use the web interface to forcefully reboot it. This last attempt, I still have an ssh connection open to the instance, but it's not accepting new connections, so apparently, it does start the shutdown process, it just never completes. Anyone have any idea on how to debug this?
[07:55] <A_Pickle> Dang.
[07:55] <A_Pickle> Well, thank you leeyaa.
[07:55] <A_Pickle> I guess... part of me is content typing commands from tutorials on the web
[07:55] <ikonia> thats the last thing you should do
[07:55] <A_Pickle> ...but I kind of want to know, at least with some rudimentary understanding, what those commands are doing.
[07:56] <ikonia> unless you fully understand the commands
[07:56] <A_Pickle> I don't.
[07:56] <A_Pickle> And I realize I probably won't understand, comprehensively, what they do without...
[07:56] <A_Pickle> ...growing the beard, so to speak.
[07:56] <ikonia> errr no
[07:56] <ikonia> just read about what they do
[07:56] <ikonia> or read a basic introduction to ubuntu
[07:56] <A_Pickle> Nonetheless, I'm reasonably comfortable on the (admittedly, much simpler) Windows command line.
[07:56] <ikonia> https://help.ubuntu.com
[07:57] <A_Pickle> I've checked that out.
[07:57] <A_Pickle> And, I do try to read before I come over here and present you kind people with my problems.
[07:57] <ikonia> that doesn't appear to be the case
[07:57] <A_Pickle> Oh.
[07:58] <Jianchuan> ddd
[07:59] <f3lix1> I'm also not seeing rc.local being run, think there's a correlation here
[08:00] <hateball> A_Pickle: read the manpage for the commands before using them
[08:00] <leeyaa> f3lix1: check your acpi drivers, i had similar problem with vmware vms
[08:00] <leeyaa> they were not shutting down completely
[08:01] <monsune> hello :) i'm having this totally crazy issue... on my box time is standing still... to be exact it goes from 12.00 CET to 12.01 CET and then it jumps back to 12.00 CET... ntpdate seems to help for just a minute or so and it is back to 12.00 CET again... how do i nail down this crap? and why would it happen at all?
[08:01] <f3lix1> this is on ec2, though. And these instances used to do so previously. They've received some updates, and also I'm doing my own init.d scripts, so I think either thing is the culprit. Just not sure how to debug it…
[08:01] <f3lix1> *do so: reboot
[08:01] <ikonia> monsune: failing hardware clock is a common cause
[08:01] <ikonia> monsune: run ntp
[08:02] <monsune> ikonia failing hw clock you say...
[08:02] <ikonia> possibly
[08:02] <ikonia> or just a hardware clock that's out of sync
[08:02] <monsune> it started happening out of the blue
[08:02] <monsune> it was all fine last night when i left it
[08:02] <ikonia> not sure how that changes anything I said
[08:03] <monsune> but why would it reset every minute?
[08:03] <ikonia> because it's out of sync and fighting with your system time
[08:03] <monsune> literally 60 seconds
[08:03] <ikonia> or because it's failing
[08:03] <ikonia> or beacuase you have some sort of automated job setting the clock
[08:03] <monsune> i checked crontab and there is nothing in there
[08:05] <f3lix1> Okay, figured it out. It's my init.d scripts that're blocking.
[08:07] <mido> ineed help there with kubuntu desktop
[08:08] <mido> guys ican't change my desktop to kubuntu desktop
[08:08] <mido> i setyp kde but logo only that changed
[08:09] <mido> ops trigger
[08:09] <mido> !ops trigger
[08:10] <mido> so! no one will help me there
[08:11] <Ben64> what are you trying to accomplish
[08:11] <ikonia> monsune: ?
[08:11] <ikonia> monsune: oops, sorry
[08:11] <ikonia> mido: ?
[08:11] <mido> i have setup kde desktop but only logo that changed to kubuntu and desktop still the same
[08:12] <Ben64> how did you setup kde desktop
[08:12] <mido> yes idid
[08:12] <mido> the prove that logo changed to kubuntu when restart
[08:12] <Ben64> mido: no... how did you do it
[08:13] <ikonia> mido: ok, so there is no need to call the channel operators for that issue
[08:13] <hateball> mido: You need to choose your session when you log in
[08:13] <mido> nothing to choose between
[08:14] <mido> ikonia : ihave setup kde but icannot change the desktop
[08:14] <Ben64> mido: Which command or method did you do in order to install the KDE desktop?
[08:14] <loostro> How to fix apparmor="DENIED" error? http://askubuntu.com/questions/490690/how-to-fix-apparmor-denied-for-telepathy-mission-control-5-under-ubuntu-14-04
[08:14] <mido> sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[08:15] <Ben64> mido: that is not a package
[08:15] <mido> but you guys who gave me this order before
[08:16] <hateball> It's kubuntu-desktop, so
[08:16] <leeyaa> is setting mac address in interfaces config syntax changed in 14.04 LTS ?
[08:17] <mido> please ineed the true order of package
[08:17] <mido> after idid this order logo have changed to kubuntu but it never make me choose between kde or unity desktop
[08:18] <Ben64> mido: you choose it where you log in. there should be a gear or some other icon and you choose which desktop you want
[08:18] <mido> Ben64 : it never show
[08:18] <hdtune2k> hi
[08:18] <Ben64> mido: then install kubuntu-desktop
[08:19] <mido> that what idid before -_-
[08:19] <mido> sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[08:19] <k1l> mido: you can choose on the login screen
[08:19] <jumanji> hi guys I can't understand why daemon won't start my shell script but when I run it in command line, it runs.
[08:19] <jumanji> I used the script from here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13718821/run-python-script-as-daemon-at-boot-time-ubuntu
[08:19] <jumanji> the daemon service will start, but status shows that it's not running.
[08:20] <Ben64> mido: it still isn't kde-desktop, it is kubuntu-desktop
[08:20] <mido> beleive me guys there no icon or anything to choose between
[08:20] <k1l> mido: btw, there is no package: kde-desktop. it should be kubuntu-desktop
[08:21] <mido> u guys make me made
[08:22] <mido> so you say kde not kubuntu then you say no package kde its kubuntu
[08:22] <hateball> ...
[08:22] <Ben64> mido: we've never said the package is kde-desktop, that was all you
[08:22] <k1l> mido: you are mixing kde desktop with the ubuntu package which is called: "kubuntu-desktop"
[08:22] <jumanji>         start-stop-daemon --background --name $DEAMON_NAME --start --user $DAEMONUSER --exec $DAEMON --verbose im running it like this
[08:22] <hateball> If the Kubuntu splash appears, somehow you've managed to install it...
[08:22] <giorgiodinapoli> hey gus i installed ubuntu 12.04 LTs with LVM. now i want to create a snapshot of my /root partition that i can later revert after my installation trials... how can i do this
[08:23] <streulma> hello does Ubuntu perform well on a Macbook Pro 13 inch latest? With only 4GB ram?
[08:23] <mido> ok now ineed kde package what is the true order to type ?
[08:23] <hateball> mido: If you can't change session using GUI you can edit ~/.dmrc to use Session=kde-plasma
[08:23] <llutz> mido: if you really tried to install kde-desktop, you would have got "E: Unable to locate package kde-desktop"
[08:23] <streulma> or should I need 8GB ?
[08:23] <Ben64> streulma: 4GB is fine
[08:23] <hateball> streulma: What do you intend to do, other than start the OS?
[08:23] <k1l> mido: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[08:24] <streulma> hateball, running legal Windows VM with legal Sibelius 5
[08:24] <monsune> assuming that my hw clock is running perfectly fine on host how do i find out what is causing system date to reset every minute to 12.00 CET?
[08:24] <jumanji> I can run start.sh fine but doing start-stop-daemon --background --name flaskserver --start --user root --exec /root/start.sh --verbose does not work. why?
[08:28] <yourmom> are you feeling better now ikonia?
[08:28] <jumanji> hello? can someone help me?
[08:31] <f3lix1> jumanji: depends on a lot of things, e.g. which environment variables are set for user root. how does it "not work"?
[08:31] <jumanji> the script is never launched
[08:31] <jumanji> by the daemon
[08:33] <f3lix1> haven't used —user myself, I usually do —chuid root:root
[08:33] <f3lix1> actually, I don't use it for root, as I've only used it with init.d scripts where it's already root, but you get the idea ;)
[08:33] <ki7mt> I dont what the script is supposed to to, but /root is an odd place to put a daemon to begin with.
[08:35] <ki7mt> s/to do/to to/
[08:35] <makara> hi. Any idea how I can get a tree listing of my network share?
[08:35] <makara> I can connect with smbclient. I would like to use `tree` program. It has some handy switches.
[08:36] <ki7mt> makara, have you tried it? I dont use Samba allot, but use tree allot, I dont recall any issues with nework drives and such.
[08:37] <jumanji> sudo start-stop-daemon --background --name flaskserver --start --chuid root:root --exec /root/worker/start.sh --verbose
[08:37] <jumanji> doesn't work
[08:38] <jumanji> sigh
[08:39] <jumanji> im doing this shit again...staying up late trying to fix one last bug
[08:39] <jumanji> as I won't have my peace until it is fixed
[08:39] <ki7mt> jumanji, I dont know did you set the exec bit on the file ? chmod +x  ?  start-stop-daemon  .. that seems odd, why not just start ?
[08:39] <jumanji> ki7mt: well the script realy does this, /usr/bin/python /root/worker/server.py
[08:40] <jumanji> chmod 755'd all the scripts
[08:41] <jumanji> this is driving me nuts
[08:41] <jumanji> these old soviet afghan war songs keep me going
[08:41] <ki7mt> jumanji, is this something you wrote or are you following some how-to somewhere?
[08:42] <ki7mt> and what is server.py ?
[08:42] <lolek> Hi guys
[08:42] <jumanji> ki7mt: server.py is just a flask server
[08:42] <ki7mt> hello
[08:42] <jumanji> ki7mt: i used the first answer from here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13718821/run-python-script-as-daemon-at-boot-time-ubuntu
[08:42] <jumanji> i had a daemon setup that starts when the server boots
[08:42] <lolek> I'm using ubuntu 14.04 and compiz is using over 20% of cpu which makes system unusable, is there known bug about this or, do I need to just  change some settings?
[08:42] <jumanji> it was working fine but sometime ago it stopped working
[08:45] <ki7mt> jumanji, well the how-to says the script should be in /etc/init.d  .. which I agree with, why are you adding it to /root/worker/.. .. ..
[08:46] <jumanji> the script is in there
[08:46] <jumanji> it tries to run the shell script at /root/worker
[08:46] <jumanji> it worked before when I didn't pu t the shell script at /etc/init.d
[08:46] <jumanji> but the daemon script is there
[08:47] <ki7mt> jumanji, start-stop-daemon is wrong, should like the how to says: sudo service myserver start
[08:48] <ki7mt> should be like .. .. .
[08:49] <jumanji> yes i did that and it doesn't run the script
[08:49] <jumanji> holy fuck i think im going to shoot myself
[08:49] <ki7mt> jumanji, no need for all the harsh language
[08:49] <jumanji> i bet its something super stupid i overlooked
[08:50] <ki7mt> jumanji, I'd start at the top, and take your time, do each step and check it, the how-too looks good to me.,
[08:50] <jumanji> okay i removed the --background and it says this
[08:50] <jumanji> start-stop-daemon: unable to start /root/worker/start.sh (Exec format error)
[08:51] <ki7mt> I do work with Python allot, but I've not used Flask, so I'm not up on how it's to be used really.
[08:51] <MasterOfDisaster> jumanji: got the shebang in it? exec flag?
[08:52] <ki7mt> jumanji, Yes, that is wrong, I said that, you want sudo start  .. .. . not start-stop-daemon that's is wrong
[08:52] <jumanji> MasterOfDisaster: good question
[08:52] <jumanji> !/bin/sh echo hi script='/root/worker/server.py' /usr/bin/python $script &
[08:53] <jumanji> are. you. kidding me
[08:53] <jumanji> I didn't have #!, I had ! only
[08:53] <MasterOfDisaster> jumanji: pastebin the complete script, please.
[08:53] <jumanji> omg I feel so stupid
[08:54] <ki7mt> jumanji, Yup, that's one issue
[08:55] <ki7mt> jumanji, just curiou, why /bin/sh and no /usr/bin/env bash ?
[08:55] <ki7mt> curious  .. .
[08:56] <YatharthROCK> While installing system-wide obviously, obviouly you have to be root for pip; but even when in a virtualenv? That doesn't seem right.
[08:57] <jumanji> MasterOfDisaster: http://pastiebin.com/53b3c9556650d
[08:58] <jumanji> start.sh !/bin/sh script='/root/worker/server.py' /usr/bin/python $script &
[08:58] <jumanji> it keeps removing the # from my start.sh
[08:58] <jumanji> ki7mt: i don't know
[08:58] <jumanji> ki7mt: my understanding is limited in this area
[08:59] <jumanji> when i run daemon, it removes the # from the first line of start.sh
[09:00] <jumanji> i have to sleep on this
[09:00] <jumanji> i can't figure itout
[09:06] <yellabs-r2> hi there , from the bash, is there a way to start totem in a specific dimension, like for example 600x800 ?
[09:06] <ki7mt> jumanji, just fyi, reading other Flasks  server installs, the one you posted is nothing like what I'm finding for Ubuntu, maybe I've not searched it properly or something.
[09:07] <jumanji> ki7mt: the problem is caused by start-stop-daemon removing the # from the script its trying to execute
[09:07] <jumanji> I don't know why it's doing this
[09:07] <jumanji> but this is preventing it from being able to run the script
[09:08] <ki7mt> jumanji, Ok, well at least you know the issue then.
[09:08] <marcules> hi
[09:08] <jumanji> ki7mt: yeah but this is even more puzzling and i can't find any answer
[09:10] <jackthepipper> Okay guys, please help me. How can I set vim as default text editor? It should open when I double click text files. I've already created a vim desktop link so that I can choose vim from the context menu. Unfortunately there isn't a "Set as default" option.
[09:10] <jumanji> start-stop-daemon removes the # from the shebang #!/usr/bin in the script it tries to run. how to prevent this?
[09:11] <ki7mt> jackthepipper, sudo update-alternatives –config editor  and select vim
[09:13] <userm> hello everyone
[09:13] <Andromeda> hi
[09:13] <userm> i have a question
[09:13] <suore> Any know ffmpeg?
[09:13] <jackthepipper> ki7mt, thx. But this way I can only set the default text editor within the terminal. It has no impact on the desktop.
[09:13] <bcvery> !ask | suore
[09:14] <bcvery> userm, ^^
[09:14] <yellabs-r2> hi there , from the bash, is there a way to start totem in a specific dimension, like for example 600x800 ?
[09:15] <ki7mt> jackthepipper, check in /usr/share/applications/defaults.list and maybe change it from Gedit to vim there then.
[09:15] <jackthepipper> ki7mt, is there no more userfriendly way?
[09:15] <userm> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.offensive-security.com/dists/pwnsauce/microverse/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Could not resolve 'archive.offensive-security.com'