[13:20] <ikonia> ZeeTron: what ?
[13:20] <ZeeTron> lol
[13:20] <lolmaus> jrib, but it won't let me in via Putty either... sshd_config should be default: http://pastie.org/1743452
[13:20] <ikonia> ZeeTron: why is that funny ?
[13:21] <ZeeTron> my browser has crash
[13:21] <jrib> lolmaus: what do you mean "either"?  You said that « ssh non-working-user@localhost » DOES work, correct?
[13:21] <ZeeTron> i cant remember how 2 mount a cdrom
[13:21] <vieira061180> eu sou brasileiro
[13:21] <Pici> !br | vieira061180
[13:21] <Las_> If I do --> sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom It says that It can't find /dev/sr0
[13:21] <ZeeTron> but i guess it could help that guy
[13:23] <ikonia> ZeeTron: if you don't know how to do something, don't offer advice
[13:23] <ZeeTron> i think that is harware Las_
[13:23] <ThE_aLiEn_return> ! ubottu
[13:23] <ZeeTron> [ikonia]: i know google that
[13:23] <ThE_aLiEn_return> !br ubottu
[13:24] <Uboss> I have Ubuntu 10.04 Desktop Edition (Normal Ubuntu), if I would like to change my Ubuntu to Ubuntu Netbook Remix Edition, can I?
[13:24] <jrib> ThE_aLiEn_return: escreve: /join #ubuntu-br
[13:25] <coz_> Uboss,  open synaptic package manager    ,, hit search ,, tyep   netbook,,, you probably wanth the gnome one not the kubuntu one
[13:25] <enoch> hi all
[13:26] <Peddy> I have a directory at /home/user1/share that I'm sharing. How can I access the directory from another computer, using user2's credentials (on the share computer)?
[13:26] <enoch> how can i play a video on two ubuntu machines perfectly syncrhronized?
[13:26] <coz_> Uboss,  so look for  ubuntu-netbook
[13:26] <Uboss> coz_, I don't know :P I would like the Netbook edition which says in www.ubuntu.com (I would like to transform into that through upgrade process if possible).
[13:26] <coz_> Uboss, oh the 11.04
[13:27] <enoch> ...
[13:27] <Uboss> coz_, yeah but with Netbook's User Interface
[13:27] <coz_> Uboss,   well my suggestion is not to upgrade to 11.04  but clean install,,, however ,, it really is not ready
[13:27] <lolmaus> jrib, it does work locally (after logging in remotely via my working user). But it does not work directly
[13:27] <coz_> Uboss,   well the similar interface in is ubuntu netbook edition but not sure if it is identical to the natty netbook Unity
[13:27] <Uboss> coz_, can I transform my ubuntu into ubuntu netbook's edition and stay on 10.04 as I am now?
[13:27] <jrib> lolmaus: did you see what Pici said about how you created the user?
[13:28] <coz_> Uboss,  sure ,, just install the ubuntu-netbook   ,, I would google ubuntu 10.10  netbook screenshots to be sure its what you want
[13:28] <lolmaus> jrib, i've created my user with the interactive command
[13:28] <jrib> lolmaus: what interactive command?
[13:28] <coz_> Uboss,  rather google ubuntu 10.04
[13:28] <lolmaus> jrib, adduser?
[13:28] <coz_> Uboss,  with  netbook and take a look at it
[13:28] <Uboss> coz_, thanks dude. :)
[13:28] <jrib> lolmaus: why a question mark at the end of that?
[13:29] <Uboss> have a nice day everyone
[13:29] <coz_> Uboss,  if your system is fairly  new  it should be able to handle it  otherwise  mutter,, the compositor will take up resources,,aka  a hog
[13:29] <coz_> Uboss,  or wait until the end of April for the release of ubuntu 11.04
[13:30] <lolmaus> jrib, i don't remember which one of two is interactive :) It created the home folder and stuff. And it lets me in locally.
[13:30] <Uboss> coz_, I have Ubuntu 10.04 LTS now. An idea came into my mind today if I would be able to change my Ubuntu 10.04 to Ubuntu Netbook Edition 10.04 or 10.10. Anyway, I will search more and then decide. Thanks!
[13:31] <jrib> lolmaus: can you pastebin your attempt at sshing remotely and all of the output?
[13:31] <lolmaus> jrib, FCUK!!!! I'm an idiot
[13:31] <coz_> Uboss,  ok
[13:31] <lolmaus> jrib, the SSH port is NOT 22
[13:31] <Uboss> lolmaus :P
[13:32] <jrib> lolmaus: it is according to what you pasted :/
[13:32] <qwebirc44173> sudo apt-get install brain
[13:32] <Peddy> how can I control which users have access to a shared folder?
[13:32] <qwebirc44173> oops
[13:32] <ikonia> Peddy: file system permissions
[13:34] <mih1406> I have a file with a big list and I want to separate it into more than one file
[13:34] <Peddy> ikonia, even when the permission on the shared folder is 777, I am unable to access it from any account besides the creator account.
[13:34] <mih1406> is it possible with grep?
[13:34] <jrib> mih1406: depends on how you want to separate it...
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> Peddy:  access via samba? or on the local system/normal paths?
[13:35] <ikonia> Peddy: look at the permissions above the folder your in
[13:35] <k405> mih1406,  if u redirect the output with >
[13:35] <Peddy> Dr_Willis, samba.
[13:35] <Peddy> ikonia, so if /home/user1 is restricted to user1 only, then /home/user1/share will still be inaccessible by other users?
[13:35] <mih1406> separate it in any possible way because it is more than 25 MB and want it to be 5 MB each
[13:35] <ikonia> Peddy: correct
[13:36] <jrib> mih1406: you can use "split" if you want to split the file strictly by size
[13:36] <Peddy> ikonia, I see. Thanks for the clarification.
[13:36] <janybek> hi there
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> Peddy:  if accessing via samba - other users should be able to access it. IF its set up right
[13:37] <janybek> need some help with gitosis
[13:37] <amgarchIn9> mih1406: man split; split -l NLINES input
[13:37] <k405> what is your use case mih1406?
[13:37] <Peddy> Dr_Willis, I just used the standard nautilus method of sharing options>share
[13:37] <janybek> join #github
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> Peddy:  a local user2 trying to access /home/user1/share would reqwuire proper permissions on the dir and the dirs above it.
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> Peddy:  douvle check your shareing options and allow the guest share feature i think
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> Peddy:  you may want to give the users a actual samba password also with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'
[13:38] <mih1406> a file with a big list of emails and usernames each pair in one line and want to split this lone list into lists
[13:38] <Peddy> Dr_Willis, ah, I understand - that makes perfect sense, I understand now. With this samba password, will it work just as standard system accounts have been working (to access the shares?)
[13:39] <jrib> mih1406: amgarchIn9 gave you the exact command
[13:39] <mih1406> i am trying it now
[13:39] <xelister> open office does not start
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> Peddy:  samba has 10000's of config options. check teh samba-doc package for books on configuring samba
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> Peddy:  personally i just enable the home shares for samba. and thats about it.
[13:40] <Peddy> Dr_Willis, thanks for your help. Good night!
[13:41] <dyd> hi all
[13:41] <oneman> hi
[13:42] <qwebirc44173> "apm: BIOS not found."
[13:42] <qwebirc44173> what?
[13:42] <edbian> qwebirc44173: april fools joke?
[13:42] <oneman> <  C Coder / Advanced User     ... Been using natty for a few weeks on my sandy bridge 2500k cpu + h67 chip motherboard, there has been graphics related crashes and messups throughout, is there anything I can do to help ?
[13:42] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: I asked you if your board supported apm under linux and told you not to be surprised if it didn't
[13:43] <dyd> i have a problem with backup: at this poing /host/ubuntu/winboot/wubildr.tar it gives this error tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[13:43] <oneman> the app-report gpu thing seems to crash itself...
[13:43] <qwebirc44173> no edbian
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> the bios may not support APM. but supports that other method.. APCI?
[13:43] <dyd> why that happens?
[13:43] <qwebirc44173> Dr_Willis: apci wont work
[13:45] <wibo> join pitivi
[13:46] <wibo> join #pitivi
[13:46] <qwebirc44173> wibo: /join
[13:47] <hellomrjack> would this be the right place to ask for help compiling from source?
[13:47] <jrib> hellomrjack: sure... what are you compiling?
[13:48] <hellomrjack> jrib: just some support libs for opencv
[13:49] <qwebirc44173> so Linux doesnt like my mobo
[13:49] <hellomrjack> jrib: what im having a problem with is that configure isnt picking up my local install in $HOME/local/lib
[13:49] <BlaDe^> I added a user like: sudo useradd -d /ftp/datafeed -g ftp -p <password> -s /usr/sbin/nologin datafeed
[13:49] <BlaDe^> but I can't login via vsftpd -- why?
[13:49] <BlaDe^> it says incorrect pass
[13:50] <hellomrjack> jrib: i have the path in PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[13:51] <qwebirc44173> should I flash the BIOS?
[13:51] <qwebirc44173> http://www.pcchipsusa.com/PCCWebSite/Downloads/ProductsDetail_Download.aspx?detailid=175&DetailName=Bios&DetailDesc=M810%20%20%28V7.1%29&CategoryID=1&MenuID=82&LanID=2
[13:51] <FloodBot1> qwebirc44173: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:52] <qwebirc44173> FloodBot1: ?
[13:52] <jrib> hellomrjack: isn't opencv in the repositories?  Why aren't you using apt?
[13:53] <hellomrjack> jrib: I have to install it locally from source as im not a sudoer on the system
[13:53] <ubuntu> hi
[13:53] <Agrouffff> hello
[13:53] <hellomrjack> jrib: and i have to recompile all of the libs using gcc4.1.2 to make it compatible with the plugin i am using it in
[13:54] <prx> Hmm, wicd cannot connect to my hostapd net using WPA2 PSK, does is take HEX keys of the appropriate length or are the keys interpreted some other way than hex?
[13:54] <qwebirc44173> prx: do not use the latest version it has a bug
[13:54] <qwebirc44173> use the previous one
[13:54] <qwebirc44173> (not april fools joke)
[13:55] <prx> qwebirc44173: I'm using what i get with ubuntu 10.10, i guess the faulty version will be masked? (not shipped, whatever)
[13:55] <ali_><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:55] <ljsoftnet> hello
[13:55] <hellomrjack> jrib: is there a specific variable you need to set so it looks in a alternitive location
[13:55] <guessswh0> what specifically has a bug?
[13:55] <qwebirc44173> prx: just a sec
[13:55] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  hey guy  http://www.delicious.com/dr_willis/ubuntu+tweaks  several links are not loading... are they now gone ?
[13:55] <qwebirc44173> guessswh0: with passwords
[13:56] <prx> qwebirc44173: take your time
[13:56] <guessswh0> oh really, a bug with ubuntu? Interesting
[13:56] <qwebirc44173> prx: I use wicd_<IP_ADDRESS>-4_all.deb
[13:56] <qwebirc44173> guessswh0: no, in an application
[13:56] <guessswh0> ah
[13:56] <prx> qwebirc44173: Ic, i have 1.7.0_something
[13:56] <guessswh0> i get you now
[13:56] <qwebirc44173> prx: you can join and talk #wicd
[13:56] <qwebirc44173> guessswh0: do you have a question?
[13:56] <prx> qwebirc44173: thx...
[13:57] <jrib> hellomrjack: you can usually pass alternate locations of libraries to ./configure.  Try ./configure --help
[13:57] <MarconM> who know ppa for the kernel update on ubuntu
[13:57] <guessswh0> no, just wanted to see where the bug lied.  I'm an IT security engineer, and didn't know if there was something I didn't know about
[13:57] <qwebirc44173> it's not a security issue
[13:58] <qwebirc44173> in wicd
[13:58] <qwebirc44173> (ot: I hope  wicd gets VPN support in next release)
[13:58] <hellomrjack> jrib: I have tried all of the options in there
[13:59] <guessswh0> VPN support would be nice
[13:59] <zider_> hello world
[14:00] <guessswh0> NSLog(@"Hi there");
[14:02] <epart> wat is lucyd
[14:02] <epart> ??
[14:02] <epart> anybody knows about it
[14:02] <jrib> hellomrjack: you can « man gcc » and see what environment variables it respects, but all that you should need to do is run ./configure with the proper arguments...
[14:03] <qwebirc44173> !lucid | epart
[14:03] <qwebirc44173> epart: but the current one is called Maverick (10.10)
[14:03] <jrib> hellomrjack: more specifically « man gcc<enter>/ENVIRONMENT<enter> » .  But again, I don't see why passing the location to ./configure didn't work.
[14:04] <qwebirc44173> how can I access cdrom via terminal
[14:04] <qwebirc44173> tried /media/cdrom
[14:04] <qwebirc44173> and /dev/cdrom
[14:04] <prx> qwebirc44173: /dev/sr0?
[14:05] <qwebirc44173> not a directory
[14:05] <qwebirc44173> i need to mount it?
[14:05] <prx> the kernel should detect it... see dmesg | grep sr0
[14:05] <prx> oder dmesg | grep sd
[14:06] <qwebirc44173> yep detected
[14:06] <qwebirc44173> now how do i check the files
[14:06] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: the directory should be in media
[14:06] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: ls -la /media/
[14:06] <prx> mount -t iso9660 /dev/whateveritdetected /media/cdrom
[14:06] <prx> media/cdrom has to exist
[14:07] <qwebirc44173> ikonia: yes there is a cdrom but empty or something
[14:07] <mih1406> I want to remove duplicates from a list in a text file?
[14:07] <ikonia> prx: /media is controlled by hal/dbus on ubuntu, so it will need to create the mount point as hal normally do that for you
[14:07] <prx> ikonia: thx :)
[14:07] <llutz> mih1406: sort -u
[14:07] <qwebirc44173> ikonia: cdrom is not a directory
[14:08] <prx> mih1406: unniq file > newfile
[14:08] <prx> uniq
[14:08] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: pastebin the output of "mount" please
[14:08] <prx> oh, its uniq file newfile
[14:08] <mih1406> Linux is Great!!!
[14:08] <mih1406> but in terminal
[14:08] <qwebirc44173> lol
[14:09] <MarconM> how i can to add ppa kernel on ubuntu
[14:09] <JeffJassky> Hey, guys. My web server keeps crashing (10.04 LTS) and I can't figure out why. I've checked the syslogs but they only show data post-crash. Nothing from before the crash is in the syslogs as if they get truncated on startup. I'm really hoping someone smarter than me could point me in the right direction so I could start diagnosing this server.
[14:09] <MarconM> i want to stay on 10.04
[14:09] <ikonia> MarconM: I strongly advise you not to do that
[14:09] <MarconM> ikoni why
[14:09] <ikonia> MarconM: why do you need to update the kernel
[14:09] <ikonia> JeffJassky: what type of crash
[14:09] <MarconM> ikonia: i use ubuntu 10.04.2 lts ok
[14:10] <ganeshalpha> hi pls help :( :( :( :(
[14:10] <ikonia> MarconM: that's fine, why do you need to update the kernel to a PPA version
[14:10] <MarconM> but i dont want to change my versio
[14:10] <prx> ikonia: If the kernel in 10.10 crashes hard, youll get empty files (which were open and being written to as of the crash)
[14:10] <MarconM> just make update my kernel
[14:10] <ikonia> MarconM: that's fine, why do you need to update the kernel to a PPA version
[14:10] <ganeshalpha> i jst downloaded ubuntu 11.04 beta 1 and made a usb stick
[14:10] <ikonia> MarconM: why ? what do you need in the new kernel
[14:10] <JeffJassky> ikonia: Everything just seems to stop. can't ssh, apache doesn't respond, can't FTP.. until I do a hard reboot and everything comes back online as normal.
[14:10] <MarconM> ikonia: i have to add ppa
[14:10] <mm2000> hello. what is the next LTS?
[14:10] <ikonia> MarconM: why
[14:10] <ganeshalpha> it boots fine in myd desktop
[14:10] <ikonia> JeffJassky: do you have console access to the machine, or is it remove
[14:11] <ikonia> remote
[14:11] <MarconM> ikonia: whem i make upgrade ... it ll update just the kernel
[14:11] <ganeshalpha> but it takes forever to load in laptop
[14:11] <ganeshalpha> :(\
[14:11] <JeffJassky> ikonia: it's remote. Rackspace hosts it.
[14:11] <MarconM> it i dont do that my kernel dont change
[14:11] <ganeshalpha> pls help
[14:11] <ikonia> MarconM: I'll ask again, why do you need to update the kernel
[14:11] <ikonia> JeffJassky: is it a physical server or a virtual ?
[14:11] <mm2000> hello. what is the next LTS?
[14:11] <JeffJassky> ikonia: virtual.
[14:12] <MarconM> ikonia: do u know the ppa kernel
[14:12] <ikonia> MarconM: yes
[14:12] <ganeshalpha> 12.04 will be lts
[14:12] <qwebirc44173> ok i mounted the cdrom :)
[14:12] <MarconM> ikonia: do u can say me
[14:12] <ikonia> JeffJassky: can you get to that server now ?
[14:12] <qwebirc44173> sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 or cdrom
[14:12] <ikonia> MarconM: why do you need to upgrade the kernel to a PPA version ?
[14:12] <JeffJassky> ikonia: yes i have full access to it
[14:12] <qwebirc44173> one of those worked
[14:12] <ruan> i think there's an LTS every 2 years, supported for 3 years
[14:12] <ikonia> JeffJassky: can you connect to it and post me the output of "uname -a" please ?
[14:13] <ikonia> JeffJassky: change the hostname if you are worried about posting it
[14:13] <JeffJassky> nah it's alright-- Linux guruz.us <IP_ADDRESS>-rscloud #8 SMP Mon Sep 20 15:54:33 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:13] <mih1406> i want to replace every space with a newline
[14:13] <qwebirc44173> umount: /media/cdrom: device is busy
[14:13] <mih1406> in a text file
[14:13] <ikonia> JeffJassky: ok - this isn't a palm off but advice, that is a modified version of ubuntu (see the kernel version - it's not an ubuntu stock kernel) if the machine is locking its a big possability it's down to the changes rackspace have made
[14:14] <ikonia> JeffJassky: contact rack space and log a support call explaining this, and let them deal with it, as it's their modified ubuntu version
[14:14] <llutz> mih1406: use sed or tr
[14:14] <randomuser> mih1406, http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html
[14:14] <edoctoor> Is there a way to transfer my Grub2 from the D: drive to the C: drive?
[14:14] <mih1406> Hey you all, do you really memorieze all linux commands??????
[14:14] <ruan> mih1406: yes
[14:14] <wnoronha> Hello
[14:14] <qwebirc44173> ok unmouted cdrom after leave its dir :)
[14:15] <randomuser> mih1406, not sure how to do a newline there, but that's your program
[14:15] <mih1406> I am using Ubuntu since 2007 but I do not memorize any
[14:15] <ahox> mih1406: and for the commandswitches, we memorized the man command ;-)
[14:15] <JeffJassky> ikonia: I really don't think it's a rackspace problem. It only started happening after I installed a number of pieces of software a few weeks ago and it seems to crash about once a day or every other day.. I definitely feel that it's a software conflict or configuration issue causing the system to crash.
[14:15] <ikonia> qwebirc44173: don't need a running commentory
[14:15] <mih1406> do you memorize them just like memorizing poems in school?
[14:15] <qwebirc44173> hehe
[14:15] <ikonia> JeffJassky: ok - but the version of the OS you are using is mofidied, so there isn't a guartentee of compatability with ubuntu packages
[14:16] <JeffJassky> ikonia: Ahh I see what you're saying
[14:16] <ahox> I usually try to memorize the meaning of the command, as in ls = list, sed=stream editor, etc
[14:16] <ikonia> JeffJassky: they however will have the hypervisor logs and can suggest why it's locking up, or even check the console for error messages, we can't
[14:16] <JeffJassky> ikonia: Darn really? there's not even a way to get crash logs or anything?
[14:16] <ahox> btw, is there a fusefs or something like it for the amazon storage cloud?
[14:16] <mih1406> I will start from now to memorize them
[14:16] <epart> ubottu: thnks for the info.. i have a PABX server.. asterisk and im using the 10.01.04 lucyd..
[14:17] <ikonia> JeffJassky: there is, but it would be better to get their logs
[14:17] <ikonia> JeffJassky: the crash logs could show the symptoms rather than the fault
[14:17] <ikonia> JeffJassky: their logs will show the fault
[14:17] <edoctoor> can the bootloader ummm.. I mean the grub2 be created on the C: drive or drive zero?
[14:17] <edoctoor> if so how?
[14:17] <JeffJassky> ikonia: Gotchya. I somehow doubt they would actually supply them to me.. so I'd like to find out as much as I can on my end before contacting them..
[14:18] <randomuser> mih1406, with some things, when you find it, it is so useful that you spend time learning it and get exited about how it can help. Once you know how t eat with a fork instead of fingers, you dont forget its name...
[14:18] <ikonia> JeffJassky: I think they will, this is their job
[14:18] <ruan> edoctoor: yes, by installing grub on it and changing boot priority
[14:18] <dyd> i have a problem with backup: at this poing /host/ubuntu/winboot/wubildr.tar it gives this error tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[14:18] <dyd> *point
[14:18] <JeffJassky> ikonia: I'll give it a try.. but in the mean time how would I go about finding out as much as I can before I call them?
[14:19] <bazhang> dyd, wubi install?
[14:19] <edoctoor> Ok, so how to I install grub2 on C:? and thank you ruan for your help
[14:19] <ikonia> JeffJassky: calling them is the first step
[14:19] <ikonia> JeffJassky: call them and explain the symptomes
[14:19] <Abhijit> hi
[14:19] <dyd> bazhang: yes!
[14:20] <JeffJassky> ikonia: Alright i'll do that. So there's nothing in /var/log that would maybe he helpful for me to know?
[14:20] <ikonia> JeffJassky: you'll get more worth while info from 3 lines of the hypervisor log, or the error message on screen when it hangs than anything else
[14:21] <almoxarife> dyd: you are backing up the whole of ubuntu install?
[14:21] <JeffJassky> ikonia: Well the thing is - it's not hanging.. and I don't know how to induce the hanging.. and I really can't afford for it to hang again because I have about 20 clients websites hosted on it and they're getting pretty upset with me. But if I call them even now do you think they would have logs from the previous crash?
[14:22] <dyd> almoxarife: i just want to backup all the disk, but i don't need installation files. are host/ubuntu/winboot/ installation files?
[14:22] <ikonia> JeffJassky: I don't know, and with all respect in the world, if this is a business machine you should have it prepared better and no more about what your doing
[14:22] <jichunjian> the what
[14:22] <dyd> i used this command:  sudo tar cvpzf /media/LaCie/backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/media --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/media/LaCie/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /
[14:22] <ikonia> JeffJassky: your best bet is to log a call with them, and leave it open, then when it next hangs, contact them for the logs/error message on screen, then trouble shoot it from that
[14:23] <almoxarife> dyd: yes, the wubi install created them
[14:23] <ikonia> JeffJassky: if you can't deal with that, I suggest uninstalling all the software you installed before it created a problem
[14:23] <dyd> (i know that --exclude=/media/LaCie/backup.tgz can be removed)
[14:23] <dyd> so i can just --exclude that folder?
[14:23] <almoxarife> dyd: you are backing up within ubuntu?
[14:23] <dyd> almoxarife: yes
[14:24] <Pirsch> Hello
[14:24] <edoctoor> PLEASE HELP, me install grub2 (Ubuntu 10.10 grub) to my first drive!!!
[14:24] <ikonia> !grub2 > edoctoor
[14:24] <almoxarife> dyd: I would think that backing up your home directory/folder should do it, everything else would be an install?
[14:24] <salihk> hello guys, i am using ubuntu 10.10 and i installed unity 2d on it but when i try to boot with unity 2d it loads very slowly actually i wait 1 or 2 minutes after the desktop is showed up. I read ubuntu 11.04 comes with unity i wonder that if i upgrade to 11.04 will i suffer same problem did you try it ? what is your impression ? thanks
[14:25] <edoctoor> Thank you...
[14:25] <edoctoor> ubottu, Thank you
[14:25] <dyd> almoxarife: doing that will keep my desktop settings and other so preferences once i restore the backup on a fresh ubuntu installation?
[14:25] <jichunjian> ah nobody is here
[14:26] <Pirsch> I'm using Ubuntu 64. Is there any issues with using KDE programs in Gnome?
[14:26] <edoctoor> ubottu you have given me a link that I was asking for... that makes you Awesome in my books
[14:26] <Pirsch> ikonia: Hi.  I'm using Ubuntu 64. Are there any issues with using KDE programs in Gnome?
[14:26] <almoxarife> dyd: it should yes, I also backup /etc because I tweaked some confs
[14:26] <ikonia> Pirsch: why are you asking me ?
[14:26] <dyd> almoxarife: thank you, i'll try that
[14:27] <Pirsch> ikonia: cause I've been here before and found you to be quite helpful.
[14:27] <ikonia> JeffJassky: 1400+ people in here
[14:27] <coz_> jichunjian,  you cannot see this?
[14:27] <ikonia> Pirsch: using KDE applications in gnome is not ideal as it's a different graphics engine, but should work fine
[14:27] <n2i> Hi! Please help me to fix this error: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: midori is broken or not fully installed
[14:27] <Pirsch> ikonia: Ok, thanks. That's all I needed,... today. :-)
[14:28] <salihk> no idea ? strange :)
[14:30] <SupeR_NovA> How can I install nvida a live cd 10.10 beta as a test
[14:30] <SupeR_NovA> ?
[14:30] <ikonia> SupeR_NovA: same as a desktop install
[14:30] <almoxarife> n2i: synaptic should fix it
[14:30] <ikonia> SupeR_NovA: however you may have problems as a reboot is needed
[14:30] <n2i> almoxarife: really? how to?
[14:31] <Stava> How can I set up a umask for an ext4 partition?
[14:31] <n2i> I cannot open synaptic :'(
[14:31] <almoxarife> n2i: can't why?
[14:32] <ikonia> Stava: same as any other partition, the umask command
[14:32] <n2i> almoxarife: there is and error mess: E: The package midori needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[14:32] <n2i> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[14:32] <Stava> ikonia, im pretty sure that the man page says that only fat/ntfs may have umask
[14:32] <ikonia> Stava: they don't
[14:32] <Stava> ikonia, oh, cool, thanks
[14:32] <ikonia> type "umask" and you can see your users mask
[14:32] <SuNotisima> howhi
[14:32] <SupeR_NovA> ikonia, trick ??!?!
[14:32] <ikonia> SupeR_NovA: what ?
[14:33] <SuNotisima> morning, I need my modem's /dev/ id for wvdial connection. I don't know how I fond it
[14:33] <Stava> ikonia, I want one umask for /home (is a partition) and one for the rest of the system (/etc/profile)
[14:33] <ikonia> Stava: umasks are user based, not partition/milesystem based
[14:33] <ikonia> Stava: man umask
[14:34] <Stava> ikonia, the root of my problems is that i want 077 or 022 umask in /home and 000 or 002 everywhere else (shared locations)
[14:34] <ikonia> Stava: ok, as I said, umask is a user based thing, not file system
[14:35] <qwebirc44173> hahaha, poweroff works in archlinux
[14:35] <n2i> This is what I get when try to install midori http://paste.ubuntu.com/588245/
[14:35] <bazhang> !ot > qwebirc44173
[14:36] <qwebirc44173> bazhang: not offtopic because it's related with my problem I have in ubuntu
[14:36] <qwebirc44173> :)
[14:36] <qwebirc44173> it's just the a conclusion
[14:36] <bazhang> qwebirc44173, save the running commentary
[14:36] <ikonia> n2i: remove the http://paste.ubuntu.com/588245/
[14:36] <ikonia> oops
[14:36] <ikonia> n2i: remove the file from /var/cache/apt/archives and try again
[14:36] <qwebirc44173> bazhang: sudo poweroff does not working in ubuntu maverick but works in archlinux.
[14:37] <qwebirc44173> anyway
[14:37] <iceroot> qwebirc44173: halt
[14:37] <ikonia> !info midori
[14:37] <qwebirc44173> iceroot: not a change in ubuntu :)
[14:37] <qwebirc44173> im gonna try another version
[14:38] <SuNotisima> how do I find my 3g modem's /dev/ address?
[14:38] <n2i> ikonia: I have removed it from /var/cache..
[14:38] <iceroot> qwebirc44173: ? you are searching for a way to shutdown the pc from the cli?
[14:38] <gordonjcp> SuNotisima: when you plug it in, look at the output of dmesg
[14:38] <ikonia> n2i: try to install again
[14:38] <n2i> But still get that error :(
[14:39] <ikonia> n2i: remove the package from the cache archives again, so sudo apt-get update first, then sudo apt-get install for the package
[14:39] <SuNotisima> gordonjcp: it is plugged in (internal)
[14:39] <qwebirc44173> iceroot: the problem are not the commands, it's the kernel. check #ubuntu logs if you want to know my problem bye
[14:39] <gordonjcp> in 10.04, how can I replace the "volume control" at the top with one that actually... controls the volume?
[14:39] <n2i> ikonia: yes, I'm doing it now
[14:39] <ikonia> n2i: ok
[14:39] <iceroot> qwebirc44173: sorry i dont search the whole logs for a problem which i never saw on any machine
[14:40] <qwebirc44173> too bad
[14:40] <SuNotisima> i do find it in lsusb, but not in dmesg? possible?
[14:40] <n2i> nooooo...I also get error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/midori_0.3.3-0.1~llwkt1_i386.deb: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 127
[14:41] <ikonia> n2i: what command caused that problem ?
[14:41] <n2i> sudo apt-get install midori
[14:42] <ikonia> n2i: looks like a bug with that package then
[14:42] <n2i> no, that is sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:42] <ikonia> n2i: what version of ubuntu
[14:42] <ruan> n2i: what happens if you try installing it with aptitude?
[14:42] <n2i> ikonia: Lucid
[14:42] <ikonia> !info dpkg-maintscript-helper
[14:42] <ikonia> rats
[14:43] <ikonia> !info midori lucid
[14:43] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION:http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-friday01april2011-070802ist.php WHY this happens with exaile ?
[14:43] <n2i> ikonia: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/588251/
[14:44] <ruan> !find dpkg-maintscript
[14:44] <ruan> !find dpkg-maintscript-helper
[14:44] <ikonia> n2i: where are you getting that package from
[14:44] <n2i> ikonia: I have added midori ppa
[14:45] <ikonia> n2i: there you go then, nothing to do with ubuntu, contact the PPA maintainer
[14:45] <ikonia> n2i: why don't you use the version in the ubuntu repo
[14:45] <n2i> ikonia: I wanna newer version :(
[14:45] <ikonia> n2i: ok, contact the PPA maintainer then, PPA's are not supported and use at your own risk
[14:46] <ruan> !latest
[14:46] <thauriswulfa> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-friday01april2011-070802ist.php
[14:46] <ikonia> thauriswulfa: you've already posted that, please stop
[14:47] <thauriswulfa> k
[14:48] <n2i> ikonia: so..there is no way to fix now? :(
[14:48] <ikonia> n2i: we don't support it, contact the PPA maintainer
[14:50] <n2i> ikonia: yes, I see! Thank you!
[14:52] <genjix> anybody know how to view system emails?
[14:53] <ikonia> genjix: system emails ?
[14:53] <genjix> yeah like from cron
[14:53] <ikonia> genjix: do you mean emails that are sent to root for example ?
[14:53] <ikonia> genjix: "sudo mail"
[14:54] <genjix> on my local machine, i get emails sent to mutt
[14:54] <genjix> i want to read the crontab emails on the remote machine :p
[14:54] <ikonia> genjix: login to the remote machine and type "sudo mail"
[14:55] <genjix> ok so i need mailutils
[14:55] <genjix> thanks
[14:55] <ikonia> just login to the remote machine and type "sudo mail" that's it
[14:55] <genjix> mail doesn't exist.
[14:55] <ikonia> should do
[14:55] <ikonia> installed by default I thought
[14:55] <desero> Hi, I am running Ubuntu 10.10 on a PowerBook G4 and double clicking on the thouchpad works like a rightclicking when in Gnome, but if i try using it in XFCE4 nothing happens.
[14:56] <JeffJassky> ikonia: Thanks for the help. Rackspace didn't have any console logs or anything they could go over with me but they did make a few suggestions. He said that the symptoms seemed indicative of running out of memory? also showed me how to access older (pre-crash) logs and showed me a service i can use to monitor my server with email alerts and such
[14:56] <ikonia> JeffJassky: that's nonsense
[14:56] <CookieMonster> i want a working tv viewer for my philips tv chip tv tuner  anyone one
[14:56] <ikonia> JeffJassky: it won't be out of memory fromt he symptoms you've said
[14:56] <desero> What is the difference of running XFCE4 and Gnome, do they run a different xorg.conf or something?
[14:56] <JeffJassky> ikonia: no?
[14:57] <ikonia> desero: totally different desktop setups
[14:57] <desero> ikonia: yes, but don't they use the same xorg.conf?
[14:57] <ikonia> JeffJassky: see what happens
[14:57] <ikonia> desero: xorg.conf isn't used
[14:58] <genjix> thanks ikonia, that worked.
[14:58] <ikonia> genjix: mega,
[14:58] <genjix> i had to install mailutils then run 'mail' :)
[14:58] <genjix> fyi
[14:58] <SupeR_NovA> How can I install nvida a live cd 10.10 beta as a test
[14:58] <randomuser> desero, it's really easy to install xfce, log out, and log mack in with it . Just see what it does.
[14:58] <tycable> Hello, what's the meaning of 'ctl' int the 'sysctl' command, please?
[14:58] <ikonia> genjix: surprised not install by default, but hey ho
[14:58] <JeffJassky> ikonia: using the 'free' command I get: Mem - total: 508272, used:429912, free:78360
[14:58] <genjix> ubuntu server edition
[14:58] <genjix> not desktop
[14:58] <ikonia> JeffJassky: no surprised there
[14:58] <desero> randomuser: what do you mean by "log mack" with it?
[14:59] <terry> desero: ikonia xorg.conf is used if it is there, but it does not exist by default.  When third party video drivers are installed, (like Nvidia ones), xorg.conf is created in order to run the third party driver.
[14:59] <JeffJassky> ikonia: is that safe enough?
[14:59] <ikonia> genjix: even more reason for it to be there by default
[14:59] <ikonia> JeffJassky: tons free there
[14:59] <genjix> l
[14:59] <genjix> k
[14:59] <ruan> desero: back
[14:59] <desero> lol, sorry :)
[14:59] <randomuser> desero, i mean install the xfce package group, and log out of your user account. on the bottom of the login screen you can choose your desktop environment, choose xfce
[15:00] <desero> I have tried logging in and out and comparing the different applicatins running in the background.
[15:00] <DirtyDawg> i did tah ^ and it still used the same amount of memory as the ubuntu desktop (gnome) i thought xfce was supposed to be faster
[15:00] <desero> I am pretty sure, this has something to do with synaptics driver wich enables this touchpad behavior.
[15:01] <ikonia> desero: doubtul, more likley your desktop
[15:01] <tycable> hello, what's the meaning of 'ctl' in the command 'sysctl'?
[15:01] <ikonia> tycable: control, it's just a command name, it means nothing in reality
[15:02] <tycable> ikonia, and I know the apache also has a command named 'apache2ctl', so I feel it may have some meaning.
[15:03] <ikonia> tycable: they are just command names
[15:03] <desero> ikonia: i found some config files for X in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d, one of which is named 60-magictrackpad.conf
[15:03] <desero> and then 50-synaptics.conf
[15:03] <magnushc> Im running gnome environment, is there a way to remove the global menu bar for kde applications?
[15:03] <desero> I think they have something to do with this.
[15:03] <tycable> ikonia, thanks, I got it.
[15:03] <randomuser> desero, sorry, i missed your initial question; i thought you were simply curious about desktop environments.  input devices are handled by HAL these days, odd that you'd have issues with a differend environment
[15:03] <ikonia> desero: it's unlikey to be X as it works in one desktop but not the other and they both use the same X setup
[15:04] <desero> That is what I thought, but I can't find any application running on Gnome that is not running in XFCE4 which would handle this behavior.
[15:05] <randomuser> desero, try something like lxde, maybe. Its not that bad.
[15:05] <desero> I thought maybe that Ubuntu runs different xorg.conf files for different environments.
[15:05] <pratheep> !bot
[15:05] <ikonia> desero: no, xorg has nothing to do with the enviornment
[15:05] <randomuser> desero, then again, ubuntu's gnome implementation is hardly standard
[15:05] <UDPError> Hey guys. So I've already asked this question but I had to make sure it's the right answer. I have a dual booted system running Windows 7 and Fedora 13. I want to change Fedora for Ubuntu however, Fedora is a LVM.. Can I still use the Ubuntu Live CD to replace Fedora? is there a certain thing I need to do
[15:05] <JeffJassky> ikonia: Do you know of any particularly good books I could pick up on ubuntu server administration?
[15:06] <ikonia> JeffJassky: not really,
[15:06] <JeffJassky> ikonia: Any particularly good websites with walk-through tutorials targeted towards newcomers?
[15:06] <ikonia> https://help.ubuntu.com
[15:06] <d3vic3> @jeffjassky : http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Ubuntu-Server-Administration-Professional/dp/1590599233
[15:07] <bazhang> !manual > JeffJassky
[15:07] <JeffJassky> d3vic3: Thanks.. yeah saw that book.. a few people said it was a little off..
[15:07] <SuNotisima> how can I find my 3g modem's /dev/ id?
[15:07] <ikonia> SuNotisima: why do you need it ?
[15:08] <JeffJassky> bazhang thanks - though I'm looking for more server related information. I'm not running a gui unubtu.
[15:08] <SuNotisima> I need to connect with wvdial/commandline
[15:08] <SuNotisima> need it for my wvdial.conf
[15:08] <desero> randomuser: i'm not sure that would fix the problem, I also tried icewm, double padding the touchpad doesn't work there either.
[15:08] <ikonia> SuNotisima: dmesg should show it when you plug it in
[15:08] <desero> ikonia: any ideas on that application would control the behavior of the touchpad?
[15:08] <desero> s/that/what
[15:08] <ikonia> desero: the desktop
[15:09] <desero> ikonia: Gnome it self?
[15:09] <SuNotisima> ikonia: it's internal, I can't "plug it in" :/ i find it in lsusb, but not in dmesg
[15:09] <ikonia> or xfce
[15:09] <ikonia> SuNotisima: odd that it's internal if it's usb
[15:10] <ikonia> SuNotisima: it may not have a device file if it's not supported in linux
[15:10] <ikonia> SuNotisima: do you know if it's supported in linux
[15:10] <SuNotisima> ikonia: it did work like a charm with networkmanager, but nm sure sucks dockey d*ck
[15:10] <SuNotisima> and gas stopped working
[15:10] <pcpower> lol
[15:10] <SuNotisima> *has
[15:10] <ikonia> SuNotisima: if you need to star out a word, don't use it
[15:10] <pcpower> I just disable it
[15:11] <pcpower> but then it makes firefox startup in offline mode
[15:11] <pcpower> every time
[15:11] <rigved> UDPError: afaik, carry on with the steps that you had listed.
[15:11] <ikonia> SuNotisima: if you do ifconfig -a does it show up ?
[15:11] <SuNotisima> ikonia: nope
[15:12] <SuNotisima> i got eth0, lo, wlan0 and wwan0
[15:12] <JeffJassky> How can I read zipped logs? like syslog.2.gz
[15:12] <ikonia> what's wwman0 ?
[15:12] <ZarroBoogs> JeffJassky: zless
[15:12] <ikonia> JeffJassky: unzip them or use zcat
[15:12] <SuNotisima> ikonia: i don't know
[15:12] <pcpower> or vim
[15:13] <ikonia> pcpower: vim won't do compression
[15:13] <SuNotisima> ikonia: well it may be 3g
[15:13] <desero> ikonia: haha, you were, right, I was overcomplicating things like usually. :)
[15:13] <iceroot> JeffJassky: zless
[15:13] <JeffJassky> ikonia: Thanks. And if I wanted to download my entire /var directory to my local machine what would be the easiest way to do that? zip -r /var/log myLogFiles, move it to my apache document root and download it?
[15:13] <JeffJassky> *var/log directory
[15:13] <ikonia> JeffJassky: tar it up, gzip compress it, scp/ftp/http download it
[15:14] <ikonia> JeffJassky: you don't really want all your var directory though
[15:14] <JeffJassky> ikonia: yeah I meant my /var/log directory
[15:14] <desero> ikonia: I can select different mouse devices under XFCE4 settings.
[15:14] <bazhang> dir hi
[15:14] <dir> bazhang: Error: "hi" is not a valid command.
[15:14] <ikonia> JeffJassky: you don't want all your /var/log directory
[15:14] <JeffJassky> ikonia: I really appreciate your help today. I feel like I've already learned a lot..
[15:14] <pratheep> sory dir is not more
[15:14] <ikonia> JeffJassky: not a problem
[15:15] <bazhang> pratheep, please remove it now
[15:15] <pratheep> how i remove
[15:15] <pratheep> sory
[15:15] <bazhang> pratheep, or I will
[15:16] <SuNotisima> it must be wwan0 then, but I didn't find the /dev/ id yet
[15:17] <ikonia> SuNotisima: network cards don't have device files in /dev
[15:17] <SuNotisima> where is it then?
[15:18] <SuNotisima> i always thought it was there, because /dev/ttyusb* and all those are there too
[15:18] <llutz> SuNotisima: mine (option 3g) uses /dev/ttyHS0 (..HS3)
[15:18] <skywu>  :)
[15:19] <llutz> SuNotisima: usb 0af0:7601 (vid-pid)
[15:19] <SuNotisima> llutz: thanks but mine tells me "no suhc file or directory"
[15:20] <llutz> SuNotisima: ls -l /dev/tty*                 something related maybe? some modems(?) use ttyACMx
[15:20] <SuNotisima> tried that before, no luck :(
[15:21] <SuNotisima> tried ACM*, USB* …
[15:21] <janolap1> Hi, I would like to know how I can configure my ubuntu server (10.10) to resolv the FQDN name of my other computers. I can do it from another ubuntu box (8.04), but I can't remember how I did this...
[15:22] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[15:22] <meganerdca> janolap1: you could put entries in /etc/hosts
[15:22] <sagi_> hi
[15:22] <meganerdca> janolap1: you could also setup a DNS server on your LAN, probably overkill... probably
[15:23] <pcpower> you could use WINS
[15:23] <janolap1> meganerdca : Ok, but on the other box, I didn't do that ...
[15:23] <sagi_> Can anybody tell , once i have restored my unbuntu virtual to a previous snapshot, how to recover files ?
[15:23] <sagi_> :(
[15:23] <guampa> WINS is deprecated
[15:23] <ddbt_nl> does anyone here why elementary os looks so sharp compared to the soft look of ubuntu natty?
[15:23] <SuNotisima> can't I display the device id with some command?
[15:23] <janolap1> pcpower WINS ?
[15:23] <sagi_> I have lost files after recovering the snapshot
[15:23] <sagi_> HELP
[15:23] <llutz> SuNotisima: lsusb
[15:23] <SuNotisima> yeah, but I need the address
[15:24] <SuNotisima> /dev/* or alike
[15:24] <bazhang> ddbt_nl, thats offtopic here as its not a supported derivative
[15:24] <janolap1> meganerdca : There's already a DNS on the LAN. But when I type "ping proxy" for example, my new server doesn't resolve
[15:24] <guampa> ddbt_nl: that's a guru question, might want to ask in ##linux
[15:25] <janolap1> meganerdca : but the old one does !
[15:25] <meganerdca> janolap1: is this a business LAN?
[15:25] <janolap1> meganerdca : yes
[15:25] <llutz> SuNotisima: what model/make is it (usb-id)?
[15:25] <meganerdca> janolap1: check /etc/resolv.conf
[15:25] <janolap1> It's the same ont the 2 hosts
[15:25] <ddbt_nl> guampa: why is that a guru q?
[15:25] <meganerdca> janolap1: there should be a line that says "search my.domain.tld"
[15:25] <sagi_> ?
[15:25] <SuNotisima> llutz: it's a ericsson F3507g (0bdb:1900)
[15:25] <meganerdca> janolap1: also make sure that nameserver line points to the proper name servers
[15:26] <SuNotisima> internal 3g modem in my lenovo s10
[15:26] <janolap1> meganerdca : it's the same ont the 2 hosts, and serach my.domain.tld is present (with the good value)
[15:26] <guampa> ddbt_nl: dunno. just seemed to me
[15:26] <ddbt_nl> guampa: did you notice that difference too?
[15:26] <magnushc> Does anyone like the global menu bar, that is not sitting on a netbook?
[15:26] <bazhang> !ot | ddbt_nl
[15:26] <ZarroBoogs> sagi_: I'd guess that any changes are completely lost.  I'd ask the support of whatever virtualization product you're using though.
[15:26] <bazhang> ddbt_nl, please ask in their support forums.
[15:26] <meganerdca> janolap1: what happens when you type "host proxy"
[15:27] <llutz> SuNotisima: it "should" have /dev/ttyACMx        http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Ericsson_F3507g_Mobile_Broadband_Module
[15:27] <janolap1> meganerdca : I'm trying
[15:27] <meganerdca> janolap1: then compare to "host proxy <ip of dns server>"
[15:27] <llutz> SuNotisima: grep CONFIG_USB_ACM /boot/config-$(uname-r)
[15:27] <ZarroBoogs> sagi_: If its virtualbox, their support is in #vbox
[15:28] <desero> thanks :9
[15:28] <prx> ok, wicd (even latest prerelease) cannot connect to my WLAN... how can i get my networkmanager panel icon back? starting it from a console shows me "** (nm-applet:10306): WARNING **: <WARN>  constructor(): Couldn't initialize the D-Bus manager." dbus however is up and running
[15:28] <llutz> SuNotisima: ls -l /dev/cdc-wdm0
[15:28] <janolap1> meganerdca : I'm reinstalling the system, hold on 2 minutes...
[15:28] <meganerdca> janolap1: ok
[15:29] <SuNotisima> llutz: ACM1: ATZ / ERROR / Bad init string. — ACM2: ATZ / Sending: ATQ0 / Re-Sending: ATZ / Modem not responding
[15:29] <quiel> hi, does anyone know if there is a way to show the battery status of a connected android device in ubuntu?
[15:29] <meganerdca> janolap1: I am going to go and get a coffee, BRB
[15:29] <SuNotisima> ATM3: no such file…
[15:29] <JeffJassky> hey, guys. how can I see what time my server is set to through SSH?
[15:29] <SuNotisima> *ACM
[15:29] <ZarroBoogs> JeffJassky: date
[15:29] <meganerdca> JeffJassky: type "date"
[15:29] <llutz> SuNotisima: ACM1 responds at least, so there is "something"
[15:30] <SuNotisima> llutz: ACM2 goes one step further but also fails
[15:31] <dorgan> anyone going to BarCamp tomorrow?
[15:31] <ikonia> dorgan: nothing to do with ubuntu, so offtopic here
[15:31] <dorgan> oops wrong channel
[15:31] <dorgan> lol
[15:31] <dorgan> sorry
[15:31] <ikonia> dorgan: not a problem
[15:32] <cognac-gamma> re I need a wee help with wireless, works everywhere else just in the new flat not now i'm on wired
[15:32] <dec3pti0n> how come ubuntu doesn't come with xen kernel like debian does ?
[15:32] <ikonia> dec3pti0n: xen isn't the selected hypervisor, you can install it if you want it
[15:32] <dec3pti0n> ikonia: kvm is I assume ?
[15:33] <cognac-gamma> just made iwlist scan if it helps
[15:33] <dec3pti0n>  are there pkgs somewhere for it ? or needs source install and new kernel compiled ? from what I have found on docs kind of looks that way
[15:34] <SuNotisima> llutz: that manual page you sent me says I need to "send commands to /dev/ttyACM1" and I can use "any terminal terminal program like cu or minicom" - I don't have either of these?
[15:34] <Potter> hi
[15:34] <Potter> there
[15:34] <deshymers> I've got an issue where my desktop is bigger then my monitor, I am using ubuntu 10.10 and the latest 260 nvidia drivers, I've tried editing the xorg.conf file and changing the resolution in the nvidia config manager, any ideas on how to fix this?
[15:34] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: what kind of problems are you having?
[15:35] <rigved> deshymers: which ubuntu version are you using? it is recommended to use the default nvidia drivers that come with your ubuntu version
[15:35] <randomuser> deshymers, have you attempted adjusting your display to a larger size?
[15:36] <llutz> SuNotisima: apt-get install minicom    sry have to go, good luck
[15:36] <SuNotisima> llutz: kthx
[15:36] <deshymers> rigved: 10.10 and latest nvidia driver
[15:36] <SuNotisima> can't install though, netbook is offline
[15:36] <deshymers> randomuser: yes bigger and smaller
[15:36] <HackeMate> hello, i am trying to recover grub after installing windows
[15:36] <HackeMate> i go to a livecd and i execute these commands
[15:37] <meganerdca> SuNotisima: do you have gtkterm installed?
[15:37] <HackeMate> sudo mkdir /mnt/sda2; sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/sda3; sudo chroot /mnt/sda3
[15:37] <HackeMate> and the last command fails
[15:37] <randomuser> deshymers, the phisical display. have you looked at the settings on the monitor itself, maybe an auto adjust?
[15:37] <HackeMate> it says chroot cannot run command /bin/bash
[15:37] <Wanda> gretong gretong
[15:38] <randomuser> HackeMate, is bash installed on sda3?
[15:38] <cognac-gamma> meganderca: iwlist scan output helps?
[15:38] <rigved> deshymers: and what about the nvidia config settings manager. there's one that comes with the nvidia drivers
[15:38] <HackeMate> randomuser: i believe so, is the linux partition
[15:38] <deshymers> randomuser: I cant because it is greyed out on my monitor viewsonic vx2835
[15:38] <deshymers> rigved: yes I've tried that manager
[15:38] <cognac-gamma> meganderca: cannot connet to the wireless network, tried to troubleshoot, got no idea
[15:38] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: well, I guest first is what  exactly are you trying to do, and what is the problem.
[15:38] <rigved> deshymers: System > Administration > NVIDIA X Server Settings
[15:39] <rigved> deshymers: ok
[15:39] <randomuser> deshymers, try moving your xorg.conf to xorg.conf.backup (so the system has to make a new one) then log out and back in
[15:39] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: you could paste it into pastebin.ubuntu.com, but I don't know what I am looking for
[15:39] <deshymers> randomuser: I've tried that before but I will do it again
[15:39] <Zealous> i got a question, is it possible to make a shell script that would open firefox using a proxy and then close it and open another one using a different proxy
[15:39] <randomuser> try removing it, running nvidia-xconfig, then restart gdm
[15:40] <deshymers> randomuser: ok
[15:40] <timposey> I am trying to change my password back to a password that I used in the past, but Ubuntu will not let me, how can I change this?
[15:40] <Guest39723> oneconf lucid?
[15:41] <Anon45356765434> hackemate: what about imstalling grub from cd?
[15:41] <cognac-gamma> meganderca: i pasted it there
[15:41] <HackeMate> im doing it from a live cd, i thought its the way
[15:41] <deshymers> randomuser: no dice same issue
[15:41] <HackeMate> i fixed the chroot, the home and the dev were mounted in different patitions
[15:41] <cognac-gamma> meganderca: cant be a driver issue cos everywhere else wireless works fine
[15:42] <Guest39723> grub , cd, ? reinstall it >?
[15:42] <HackeMate> i have the prompt now, and i try grub-install --recheck /dev/sda and it says grub-probe cant find a device for /boot/grub
[15:42] <deshymers> randomuser: its not liek when the resolution is to big and you can scroll around the desktop with your mouse, its like 30px or so to big all around
[15:42] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: are you using network manager to configure the wifi network?
[15:42] <cognac-gamma> meganderca: ty for your attention anyhow
[15:42] <cognac-gamma> yep
[15:42] <Guest39723> is there any package for fixing grub ?
[15:43] <cognac-gamma> tried wifi radar, doesn't help
[15:43] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: anything in /var/log/daemon.log that might indicate the problem?
[15:43] <cognac-gamma> megandrca: i've triesd wifi radar, doesn't help
[15:44] <Guest39723> i need such oneconf sync for lucid
[15:44] <S74rk7> anyone know off-hand what the difference of an Ubuntu-Alternate dvd compared to the Ubuntu-Desktop??
[15:44] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: I have never used wifi radar
[15:45] <meganerdca> S74rk7: it is a text based installer instead of the GUI one
[15:45] <Abhijit> hi
[15:45] <Abhijit> help. this error while trying to compile lifeograph latest version http://pastebin.com/d7TB1ZV5
[15:45] <Abhijit> help
[15:45] <meganerdca>  S74rk7 it is based off of the Debian installer.  I prefer it actually.
[15:45] <Guest39723> alternate dvd?
[15:45] <S74rk7> meganerdca: more configuration available?
[15:46] <meganerdca> S74rk7: there used to be some differences, like like whole disk encyption.  I don't know if this is still the case.
[15:47] <S74rk7> meganerdca: Excellent... its the option to encrypt different partitions etc I am looking for... on the GUI Installs of ubuntu + kubuntu I seem to only have the option to encrypt the whole folder
[15:47] <Guest39723> how+repairing+grub+simple
[15:48] <BluesKaj> S74rk7, the alternate install allows encryption of various ext partitions
[15:48] <randomuser> deshymers,  try xvidtune
[15:49] <cognac-gamma> megandrca:  sent to pastbin the log
[15:49] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: you will have to put the url in a message here
[15:49] <S74rk7> Guest39723: Alternate dvd... when you are downloading your distro of linux - be it ubuntu, kubuntu etc if you looks there was an iso called "Alternate" - I've been told its a text based install - rather than the GUI version on the Desktop versions of the distros...
[15:50] <deshymers> randomuser: ok I'll give it a go, thanks
[15:50] <cognac-gamma> megandrca:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/588277/
[15:50] <S74rk7> BluesKaj: excellent... thanks mate
[15:50] <cognac-gamma> megandrca:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/588272/
[15:51] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: looks like a problem with the saleem1234 nm profile.  Delete it then recreate it.
[15:52] <S74rk7> I have 4GB RAM - I read in a few articles that you should make your swap area at least twice the size of your available ram... so I've an 8GB Swap area - does this all sound ok? or have you guys anything I should watch out for?
[15:53] <erUSUL> S74rk7: no; it is not ok. the twice as much swap as ram is a rule from the last century when you had 16 o 32 MiB of RAM ....
[15:53] <DJones> S74rk7: The double your memory for swap size goes back a few years when computers had lower amounts of memory
[15:53] <meganerdca> S74rk7: the 2x RAM size is not that usefull anymore given how much RAM we typically have
[15:54] <cognac-gamma> megandrca: thanks, but tried already
[15:54] <meganerdca> S74rk7: of course given the size of most hard drives it does not really matter
[15:54] <ZarroBoogs> S74rk7: Unless this is a computer that you plan to hibernate on, you won't need that much swap.
[15:54] <timposey> I am trying to change my password back to a password that I used in the past, but Ubuntu will not let me.  It is saying that the new password is too similar, how can I change this?
[15:54] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: there is not a lot of info that log snippet.  Is this a wpa protected AP?
[15:55] <cognac-gamma> meganderca: i think so how to conclude it?
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> timposey:  you could do 'sudo passwd username' and i think it will skip any security 'settings'
[15:55] <S74rk7> OK so its not that necessary really unless I'm looking to hibernate etc... but is there any issues this can cause?
[15:55] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: check the router settings?
[15:56] <meganerdca> S74rk7: large swapspace just takes up disk space, not a big deal
[15:56] <S74rk7> meganerdca: OK thanks :)
[15:56] <ruan> S74rk7: im running without a swap, havent had any issues so far. its been 3 weeks now
[15:56] <prx> running the networkmanager config gui, and finally using nmcli i got my wlan running (lacking the applet)
[15:56] <meganerdca> S74rk7: it is not used if it is not needed
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> S74rk7:  i alwyas put  about 512mb of swap on ever system i make.. at a minimal
[15:56] <ruan> 3gb of ram btw
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> live cd;s can use swap :)  and can get confused if theres none. so i keep some on all my box's just in case.
[15:57] <S74rk7> is there any advantages to having such a large swap area other than being able to hibernate a busy system?
[15:57] <ruan> !swap
[15:57] <meganerdca> I have 4 GiB of RAM in my laptop and an 11 GiB swapspace
[15:57] <ruan> o_O
[15:57] <monggo> what... 2x is ancient rule one !!? should i resize swap?
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> if you system doset need 5+gb of swap.. then you dont gain anything by having 10+gb either. :)
[15:58] <prx> having too much swap can cause trouble if a mem leaking proces eats up all your ram
[15:58] <Dr_Willis> monggo:  depedns on your needs. and f you use hibernate
[15:58] <prx> it delays the action of the OOM killer
[15:58] <meganerdca> monggo: it is an old rule of thumb, only resize if you really need the disk space, otherwise don't worry about it
[15:58] <prx> wasting 11Gig on swap seem insane, doesnt it?
[15:59] <meganerdca> prx: only if you are wasting it
[15:59] <prx> was that default?
[15:59] <meganerdca> prx: even then with a 500 GB hard drive, its not like I would notice.  Yes it was the default
[15:59] <ruan> is it ok to partition on a drive that has a partition mounted, but to remove unmounted partitions on the drive
[15:59] <ruan> ?
[15:59] <meganerdca> prx: besides, I regularly need a lot of swap space
[16:00] <Dr_Willis> ruan:  i think you can.
[16:00] <ruan> Dr_Willis: thanks
[16:00] <prx> meganerdca: what do you regularly need swap space for?
[16:00] <ruan> though to resize my main partition, i'll need a livecd
[16:01] <meganerdca> prx: lots of apps, a couple of VMs
[16:01] <ruan> i hope my usb works this time
[16:01] <monggo> should i allocated 160 GB for swap with my RAM 1GB?
[16:01] <ruan> monggo: no way, your computer will never use that much
[16:01] <ZarroBoogs> monggo: swap is akin to the pagefile on Windows.
[16:02] <ruan> monggo: at most 4gb of swap, no more
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> monggo:  peraps 4gb max on a 1gb system.. if you really need more then that..  i wousl suggest more ram buying in the futyre.
[16:02] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: where are we at with your wifi issue?
[16:02] <cognac-gamma> meganderca: cant reach the router from the browser like <IP_ADDRESS>, so tried iwlist eth1 ap
[16:02] <monggo> Okay ., okay ..... buying 10GB Of RAM should be enough..
[16:03] <ruan> monggo: that's still extreme, what are you planning to do with the pc?
[16:03] <meganerdca> monggo: there is no such thing as too much RAM
[16:03] <meganerdca> monggo: I am putting 16 GiB of RAM into my new core i5
[16:03] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca:Interface doesn't have a list of Peers/Access-Points
[16:03] <ruan> meganerdca: there is, if you're not using the ram _ever_
[16:04] <ruan> if you don't run apps that use the ram, it's a waste
[16:04] <meganerdca> ruan: I still do not believe that it is "too much" :)
[16:04] <prx> ruan: just compile some c++ stuff, youll need it ;)
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> like having a 1000gallon gas tank on a moped? :)
[16:04] <monggo> my processor dual core.. what size appropriate for running lucid ?>
[16:04] <prx> say boost
[16:04] <ruan> prx: i dont compile c eyet
[16:04] <ruan> yet
[16:04] <janolap1> megandrca: "host proxy" replies ";; connection timed out; no server could be reached"
[16:05] <prx> c itself doesnt need such insane amount of RAM
[16:05] <lament> hey there ops, i got spam from siska, in indonesian, asking me to join another IRC server
[16:05] <lament> on join
[16:05] <meganerdca> janolap1: try "host proxy <ip of dns server>
[16:05] <ZarroBoogs> lament: can you pm me the message you got?
[16:05] <prx> many JAVA applications will use up much, too
[16:05] <ruan> minecraft only takes 300mb ram at most
[16:05] <Abhijit> lament, you can use /ignore <username> all and also you can set +R flag so that unregistered user wont be able to pm you
[16:05] <meganerdca> firefox and chrome use 100s of MBs each on my system
[16:05] <janolap1> megandrca : the same message !
[16:06] <monggo> anyone know how configure gsm network such as scanning proxy to raise bandwidth speed?
[16:06] <lament> Abhijit: true, but an on-join spammer is a channelwide problem
[16:06] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: do not do the ap at the end, should just be "sudo iwlist <interface>"
[16:06] <janolap1> megandrca : really don't know. I'll try on monday... not urgent ! Thanx !
[16:07] <Abhijit> lament, yeah wait for some ops or you can go to #ubuntu-ops
[16:07] <ZarroBoogs> Abhijit: I'm around.
[16:07] <ZarroBoogs> Abhijit: <- Pici
[16:07] <Abhijit> ZarroBoogs, you mean you are a Pici?
[16:08] <djazz> why cant i install .deb in the new ubuntu beta?
[16:08] <ruan> !natty | djazz
[16:08] <djazz> I know
[16:08] <meganerdca> djazz: well usually there is an error message that provides you with a starting point
[16:08] <monggo> my gsm internet speed are suck's ..any idea ?
[16:08] <alien260> djazz: What's the error message?
[16:08] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca:sudo iwlist eth1 [sudo] password for gv: iwlist: unknown command `eth1'
[16:09] <timposey> Dr_Willis:  Thanks, that worked.. I have looked for that everywhere and couldn't find it.
[16:09] <djazz> no error message, the progress bar starts, then it turns into an "Install" button again
[16:09] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: "sudo iwlist eth1 scanning"
[16:09] <djazz> any other way to install .deb without software manager?
[16:09] <meganerdca> djazz: try it from the CLI, "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb"
[16:09] <tekk> hey guys, i have a Xsession open, I want to execute a command remotely but have it run in that session
[16:09] <JimUbu> I tried upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10.  It ended prematurely, after only a few minutes. It downloaded files, then was configuring, then put up a message for reboot.  I rebooted and 10.10 was not there.
[16:09] <djazz> yeah..
[16:10] <tekk> i.e. say i launch vlc from a remote terminal over ssh, i want it to open in the active Xsession... any ideas?
[16:10] <ruan> tekk: ssh -x user@host
[16:10] <Tatanka_> Hola
[16:10] <ruan> or was it -X
[16:10] <ruan> hold on
[16:10] <prx> it was -X
[16:10] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca:http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/588286/
[16:10] <JimUbu> Am I in the right place for installation questions?
[16:11] <ruan> tekk: ssh -X
[16:11] <BluesKaj> JimUbu, what command or method did you use to upgrade ?
[16:11] <JimUbu> I used the upgrade manager.
[16:11] <tekk> ruan, ssh -X will launch it in that activated terminal
[16:11] <tekk> not the running session
[16:11] <tekk> imagine you have a desktop system running and you're in another country and want to launch a program in the desktop without VNC'ing in
[16:11] <m4gnus> hello everyone
[16:12]  * rcconf hello all
[16:12] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: try setting the channel on the router
[16:12] <meganerdca> tekk: I use NX from nomachine.com to do that
[16:12] <djazz> thx  meganerdca
[16:12] <vrs> question: I'm a complete noob concerning printers and i need to print something. there is an external print server and i don't have cups or anything printing-related installed. which packages should I go for if I only want a printer client?
[16:12] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: how to do so?
[16:12] <monggo> slow internet connection please ...
[16:12] <tekk> meganerdca, NX is basically a remote-desktop VNC like thing
[16:13] <tekk> i'm after pure terminal
[16:13] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: depends on the router, but usually you point your browser to the router's IP
[16:13] <rcconf> How can I use Ubuntu Server as Live CD?
[16:13] <ruan> tekk: hmm. when i run 'firefox' in the terminal it launches firefox outside of the terminal
[16:13] <tekk> e.g. i wanna run a command from pty/1 and run it in 0:0
[16:13] <tekk> ruan, not from a remote location
[16:13] <tekk> it will try to launch it in your own terminal
[16:13] <meganerdca> tekk: yes, plus it runs over ssh, so single tcp port to deal with.  Also uses ssh for encyption.  Win win.
[16:13] <BluesKaj> JimUbu, try this in the console instead , butmake sure that any ppas that were added after your install are disabled in the package manager or commented with # in front in the sources.list .: sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:13] <sourcenemy> whats the lightest and smallest ubuntu based system that has most drivers and FW? ( i allways have trouble getting my wireless working on my netbook with one exeption easypeasy)
[16:13] <tekk> i don't want to remote desktop in
[16:13] <vrs> and what's the package name of the gnome printer admin?
[16:13] <tekk> this is much lower level than a NX/VNC like thing
[16:14] <ruan> tekk: hmm. i've got to test remote then
[16:14] <meganerdca> tekk: ssh -X?
[16:14] <sushuiyuzhou> is any body?
[16:14] <monggo> prozilla prozilla prozilla prozilla
[16:14] <JimUbu> Where do I comment out the ppas
[16:14] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: as i've written i cant access the router from the browser, but can ping from Networkmanager
[16:14] <sushuiyuzhou> OK
[16:14] <tekk> ssh -X opens in the remote terminal
[16:14] <JimUbu> Where is sources.list?
[16:15] <tekk> xhost or something would work, but that hasn't existed properly for 20 years+
[16:15] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: without access to the router this is going to be tough.
[16:15] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: the line "Channel:0" from your iwlist is what concerns me
[16:15] <ruan> i'd have to install openSSH on my windows pc to remotely access this one :/
[16:15] <rumpe1> JimmyJ, /etc/apt/
[16:15] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: we could try it from the CLI
[16:15] <JimUbu> blueskaj - thanks for the help ... I'll find sources.list ...
[16:15] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: i see
[16:16] <sourcenemy> whats the lightest and smallest ubuntu based system that has most drivers and FW? ( i allways have trouble getting my wireless working on my netbook with one exeption easypeasy)...
[16:16] <meganerdca> tekk: ssh -X opens a remote app on your current machine.  Basically an X connection over ssh.  It is really slooooooow
[16:16] <BluesKaj> JimUbu, alt +f2, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:16] <bob__> mode /#ubuntu+1
[16:16] <meganerdca> sourcenemy: what do you mean by lightest?
[16:17] <emre> hi
[16:17] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: so what to type?
[16:17] <tekk> meganerdca i realise that
[16:17] <tekk> i'm on about something more complex
[16:17] <tekk> nevermind.
[16:17] <BluesKaj> JimUbu, but check the package manager as well , just to be sure
[16:17] <sourcenemy> with least crap installed on it from start kinda like DSL
[16:17] <JimUbu> Thanks again BluesKaj!1
[16:17] <ZarroBoogs> !minimal | sourcenemy
[16:17] <monggo> how to scan open proxy internet provider?
[16:18] <ZarroBoogs> monggo: Thats not something that we can provide help for here.
[16:18] <JimUbu> K
[16:18] <monggo> why?
[16:18] <prx> tekk: In order to speed up X via ssh you can use ssh -X -c arcfour name@host
[16:18] <ZarroBoogs> monggo: Because 1) It has nothing to do with Ubuntu 2) We get logs of channel abuse from open proxies.
[16:18] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: from the cli: "sudo stop network-manager" then "sudo wpa_passphrase saleem1234 wpa passphrase > saleem1234.conf"  then "sudo wpa_supplicant -D wext -i eth1 -c /path/to/saleem1234.conf"
[16:18] <prx> -c choses the cipher (arcfour)
[16:19] <monggo> in my country a lot of phreaking thread
[16:19] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: ok
[16:19] <prx> arcfour is faster than aes128 (if you do not have hw accelerated AES, as on Core i CPUs)
[16:20] <sourcenemy> cheers ill have a look at that minimal;) only problem is i will be adding a bunch of tools and i have no idea what dependensies they have... but maybe minimal will ask if i want that installed too when i install the tools?
[16:20] <jjholt> running ubuntu 9.10 on a powerbook G3 pismo 400MHz G3 and 384MB RAM, should I upgrade to the latest LTS?
[16:20] <jon1> just downloaded thursday's release of natty narwhal and have a problem.  when i open a folder, such as home, videos, etc., I cannot see anything, only white.  any suggestions?
[16:20] <ZarroBoogs> jjholt: Yes.  9.10 support ends on April 29th.
[16:20] <ZarroBoogs> jon1 : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Natty/11.04 support/discussion.
[16:21] <jon1> ZarroBoogs, thanks
[16:21] <bob__> how do I change to #ubuntu+1 using smuxi?
[16:22] <ZarroBoogs> bob__: type: /join #ubuntu+1
[16:22] <falcon1212> can any1 help me im having trouble with airodump
[16:22] <falcon1212> ?
[16:22] <prx> Would be nice if ubuntu one day included http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/
[16:23] <larious> I can't install openVPN.deb offline why
[16:23] <ayecee> larious: i give up. why?
[16:24] <ayecee> larious: maybe the error message explains why?
[16:24] <falcon1212> can any1 help me? im having trouble with airodump
[16:24] <lvh> Hi. Can I get a backported (forwardport?) version of python2.5 for 10.10 anywhere?
[16:25] <ayecee> falcon1212: you'll have to describe the trouble before anyone can assist you with it
[16:25] <meganerdca> larious: what is the error?
[16:25] <larious> ayecee: sorry for the way I put the question, I need someone to help me
[16:25] <larious> that cant download from the internet 1 to 4
[16:25] <ZarroBoogs> lvh: Can I inquire as to why you need python2.5?
[16:25] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: well, i must forgot to substituate something, cant find path to saleem1234.conf
[16:26] <falcon1212> once i pull up airodump and i try to connect to wifi it shows no signals
[16:26] <larious> I downloaded the software from the internet to my xp and then I copyed it to my ubuntu, but I cant install it
[16:26] <ayecee> larious: I don't recognize that error. could you paste it at paste.ubuntu.com ?
[16:27] <ayecee> larious: include the command you used to try to install the deb.
[16:27] <lvh> ZarroBoogs: Google App Engine.
[16:27] <ayecee> falcon1212: has it worked before for you, or is this the first time?
[16:27] <cretep> I have a simple question. I am using Maverick Meerkat and would like to try using Wine with some of my Windows Programs.
[16:27] <lvh> ZarroBoogs: Also, running test suites on 2.5, 2.6 and 2.7.
[16:27] <NaseMk> how to uninstall kubuntu desktop on my ubuntu 10.10
[16:27] <NaseMk> ?
[16:27] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: the wpa_passphrase command had ">" which dumps the output to a file
[16:27] <lvh> ZarroBoogs: (I *say* my software works but it would nice if I actually verified that.)
[16:27] <cretep> I can navigate to them ok with the Wine browse function, but all of those programs are marked as non-executable.
[16:28] <ZarroBoogs> lvh: Ah.  Well, its unlikely that you'll see an official package for 2.5, but theres problably a PPA out there for that very purpose.
[16:28] <cretep> And I cannot change that to executable with the properties window.
[16:28] <milamber> NaseMk: kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage, it wouldn't be easy
[16:28] <mugen> !rules
[16:28] <cretep> How do I mark those programs as executable?
[16:28] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: if would dump this file in whatever directory you were in
[16:28] <NaseMk> so
[16:28] <rcconf> cretep: chmod +x file
[16:28] <NaseMk> what shoul i do
[16:28] <rumpe1> cretep, they dont need to be executable... wine executes them
[16:28] <rcconf> cretep: or right click permissions..
[16:28] <falcon1212> no its not the first its always happened i think somehow i am turning off the wifi card i just dont know how to get it back up
[16:28] <Abhijit> NaseMk, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[16:28] <milamber> NaseMk: why do you want to get rid of it?
[16:28] <DJones> !puregnome | NaseMk
[16:29] <larious> ayecee: i download from the internet... and double click, I use my ubuntu offline not online, and i use my window to download the application, then copy it to my ubuntu to install, didnt use any command in the terminal
[16:29] <Abhijit> oh uninstall
[16:29] <Abhijit> okay wait
[16:29] <mugen> Would anyone mind taking a look at my smb.conf? I keep getting permission denied on my shares.
[16:29] <NaseMk> waiting
[16:29] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: Failed to read or parse configuration '/path/to/saleem1234.conf
[16:29] <rigved> NaseMk: there is a guide on psychocats
[16:29] <ayecee> larious: okay. I still don't know that error message. It would be helpful to see it.
[16:29] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: put the actual path
[16:29] <rigved> NaseMk: tell me which desktop do you want to keep
[16:30] <DJones> NaseMk: Have you looked at the link I that was sent a minute ago
[16:30] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: example: " /home/mike/saleem1234.conf" assuming your username is mike
[16:30] <ayecee> falcon1212: I don't understand. It was working before, and now it's not?
[16:30] <NaseMk> ubuntu 10.10
[16:30] <NaseMk> gnome
[16:30] <larious> ayecee: can you answer this, have you installed package offline
[16:30] <Abhijit> NaseMk, you can follow this linik http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome but i want to warn you that i followed this link some months ago and IT BROKE MY FULL SYSTEM so as to  i need to reinstall whole system. decision is yours.
[16:30] <rigved> NaseMk: try what DJones says
[16:30] <ayecee> larious: yes, but using the commandline, not doubleclicking it.
[16:31] <NaseMk> dj johnes
[16:31] <larious> apt-get install openvpn
[16:31] <NaseMk> which link
[16:31] <DJones> !puregnome | NaseMk
[16:31] <rigved> !puregnome > NaseMk
[16:31] <falcon1212> once i type airodump-ng my wifi is gone in order to get it back i have to restart the computer
[16:31] <ayecee> larious: I don't think apt-get would work offline.
[16:31] <ayecee> larious: I'd usually use dpkg for offline.
[16:32] <rigved> DJones: i sent it to him via pm. that way he'll be able to see it apart fromt he flood
[16:32] <rigved> *the
[16:32] <monggo> larious, buy dvd repositories
[16:32] <larious> ayecee: need to reboot my computer to switch to ubuntu, can you give me a command that i can use
[16:32] <d3vic3> !apt-offline
[16:32] <falcon1212> right now i have wifi i have not typed it on the shell konsole i just want to know what command to i have to type in order to get it back
[16:32] <DJones> rigved: I saw that, probably doesn't repeat in the channel so quickly to avoid spamming the channel
[16:32] <ayecee> larious: dpkg -i filename.deb
[16:33] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: Failed to read or parse configuration '/path/to/saleem1234.conf
[16:33] <rigved> DJones: ya :)
[16:33] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: sorry., ok
[16:33] <larious> monggo: where can I buy it, they dont sell ubuntu package here
[16:33] <monggo> larious, where do u lived
[16:33] <larious> ayecee: you mean the package would already be on my system
[16:33] <larious> monggo: nigeria
[16:33] <ayecee> larious: I thought you said you already had the deb on the system?
[16:33] <larious> yea
[16:34] <larious> ayecee: on my ubuntu desktop
[16:34] <ayecee> falcon1212: you exit out of airodump-ng, but still can't connect to a wifi network?
[16:34] <monggo> larious, ill send you for free.. at www.4shared.com
[16:34] <falcon1212> ayecee: true
[16:34] <ayecee> larious: okay, you can install that with dpkg as I said.
[16:34] <larious> ok
[16:35] <ayecee> falcon1212: you may be able to get around it by removing the driver module for your wifi with rmmod, then reinserting it with modprobe.
[16:35] <larious> monggo: I will be very happy
[16:35] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: sorry where to write passphrase?
[16:35] <ayecee> falcon1212: some wifi cards get a bit confused when doing this stuff, is the easiest way to describe it.
[16:36] <monggo> monggo, it sized 32Gb large
[16:36] <falcon1212> ayecee: im knew to this sorry
[16:36] <brad_> has anyone had issues upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 beta?
[16:36] <ZarroBoogs> brad_ : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Natty/11.04 support/discussion.
[16:36] <larious> ayecee: have you ever set up openVPN on your system
[16:36] <larious> monggo: you are too funny ?
[16:36] <falcon1212> ayecee: how to i use modprobe?
[16:37] <monggo> larious, figure it your self we are one destiny
[16:37] <ayecee> larious: yes
[16:37] <larious> monggo: that mean you were joking with me
[16:37] <ayecee> falcon1212: first you need to know which module to take out :) can you paste the output of lsmod to paste.ubuntu.com ?
[16:37] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: so the second command is sudo wpa_passphrase saleem1234 wpa ***** > salem1234.conf ?
[16:38] <monggo> monggo, trouble together... ihave my own too LoL
[16:38] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: yup
[16:38] <onecrazycat> Anyone have any good tutorials on how to put together DEB packages?  I'm a total noob in that department.
[16:38] <larious> ayecee: need you to help me in setting you a program called your-freedom, and this package is to browse through the net
[16:38] <falcon1212> ayecee: what do i paste?
[16:39] <ayecee> falcon1212: you run lsmod, and paste what it prints
[16:39] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: Line 1: unknown global field 'Passphrase must be 8..63 characters'.
[16:39] <cognac-gamma> Line 1: Invalid configuration line 'Passphrase must be 8..63 characters'.
[16:39] <cognac-gamma> Failed to read or parse configuration '/home/gv/saleem1234.conf'.
[16:39] <falcon1212> ayecee: so i just type lsmod?
[16:39] <ayecee> larious: I am quite busy and cannot hold your hand through the process. however, if you have specific questions, I or someone else may be able to answer them here.
[16:39] <rigved> !packaging | onecrazycat
[16:40] <ayecee> falcon1212: yes
[16:40] <thevishy> are there any ways to improve the sound output
[16:40] <falcon1212> ok
[16:40] <thevishy> I mean my speaker is capable of more , but the mp3 is a deeble
[16:40] <thevishy> feeble*
[16:40] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: i wrote the passp[hrase as i mentioned, still got this..
[16:40] <monggo> larious, i try to install yf but didn;t worked
[16:40] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: your passphrase is too short then
[16:40] <larious> monggo: how did you know what I need?
[16:41] <onecrazycat> !packaging
[16:41] <monggo> larious, maybe need javaruntime windows version installed at wine
[16:41] <falcon1212> ayecee: alot came up what is the file i paste?
[16:41] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: no, it is exact 9 character long...
[16:42] <ayecee> falcon1212: paste all of it at http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:42] <cretep> I'm sorry, it seems not to work. When I try to open a Windows program with the Wine Program Loader, I get an error message saying that the program's executable bit is not set, and if I go to the permissions tab in the properties window, there is a box to check to make it executable, but the checkmark won't stay.
[16:42] <onecrazycat> ubottu: ty
[16:42] <larious> monggo: why dont you try it, if that will work out, but there will be java runtime for ubuntu?
[16:42] <ruan> cretep: what filesystem is this?
[16:42] <ayecee> falcon1212: when you submit it, it'll provide a link with which I can view the paste.
[16:42] <rigved> onecrazycat: to know about fixing packages hosted on launchpad, read the irc logs for #ubuntu-classroom: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
[16:42] <ruan> cretep: and do you have write permissions to the folder
[16:43] <cretep> that is an ntfs file system for Win XP
[16:43] <ruan> cretep: remount it with ntfs-3g
[16:43] <monggo> larious, i allready installed both, but not yet to try installing yf
[16:43] <theDude_> hey, between flash logging me out and the upgrade being forced to restart my computer nearly became a brick.  I need to find out how to save Ubuntu (10.10 or 11.04, no idea which) and win7.  Grub died, but I doubt that's the only problem
[16:44] <cretep> i only knopw how to mount filesystems through the gnome graphical screen.
[16:44] <falcon1212> ayecee: Module                  Size  Used by
[16:44] <falcon1212> ipv6                  215277  10
[16:44] <falcon1212> aes_i586                6868  1
[16:44] <falcon1212> aes_generic            25694  1 aes_i586
[16:44] <falcon1212> sbs                     8489  0
[16:44] <FloodBot1> falcon1212: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:44] <falcon1212> sbshc                   2608  1 sbs
[16:44] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: your file should look like this one: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/588294/
[16:44] <larious> monggo: can you help me on how to install my yf package
[16:45] <rigved> cretep: use the live cd to boot and mount the partitions. save the date to an external disk. then re-install
[16:45] <ayecee> falcon1212: you need to paste this at http://paste.ubuntu.com, not here
[16:45] <larious>  monggo: can you help me on how to install my yf package
[16:45] <rigved> cretep: no need to re-install win7, though. only re-installing ubuntu will work
[16:46] <ruan> cretep: what happens if you copy the files to your ubuntu partition?
[16:47] <ruan> rigved: are you talking to the right person?
[16:47] <falcon1212> i pasted it
[16:47] <ayecee> falcon1212: did the webpage give you a link to use?
[16:47] <cretep> thanks, folks, I'll try your suggestions.
[16:47] <ruan> cretep: don't reinstall
[16:47] <JeffJassky> Hey, guys. Can someone smarter than me take a look at this? This is my syslog from when my server crashed - trying to figure out why my server is crashing - http://www.guruz.us/crashlog.txt
[16:48] <AxonetBE> I have some problems with sphinx. When I run the sphinx command rake ts:start there is not problem but when running this via crontab then I get Sphinx cannot be found on your system. You may need to configure the following… What am I doing wrong?
[16:48] <falcon1212> ayecee: it says i can download it as a text
[16:48] <rigved> ruan: i guess. if you have a better solution, please suggest :)
[16:49] <ayecee> falcon1212: I don't know what you mean
[16:49] <digitalfiz> Hey guys can I get support for 11.04 in here yet?
[16:49] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: i opened with gedit after repeating the second line but only says passphrase should be 8 63 character long. for other guys in da flat it works on win7
[16:49] <ayecee> digitalfiz: no, use #ubuntu+1
[16:49] <rcconf> digitalfiz: no
[16:49] <ZarroBoogs> digitalfiz: no. Please use #ubuntu+1 until 11.04 is released (April 28th).
[16:49] <digitalfiz> ok ty rcconf
[16:49] <rcconf> and he thanks me lol
[16:49] <ruan> rigved: i think you meant to talk to theDude_ ?
[16:50] <falcon1212> it just says Paste from Falcon1212 at Sat, 2 Apr 2011 02:47:04 -0400 and has my text under it
[16:50] <theDude_> yeah, I do kinda need help de-screwing my computer
[16:50] <rigved> ruan: you are right.
[16:50] <itaylor57> AxonetBE: you need to the full path in your crontab
[16:50] <rcconf> theDude_: details please
[16:50] <rigved> ruan: thanx
[16:50] <ruan> JeffJassky: one thing i do notice is that there is 0kb swap free
[16:50] <AxonetBE> itaylor57: yes I have
[16:51] <AxonetBE> but when doing it in crontab he is not finding the Sphinx command
[16:51] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: the file saleem1234.conf says "
[16:51] <meganerdca> passphrase should be 8 63 character long
[16:51] <ruan> JeffJassky: i think the cause of this is out of memory
[16:51] <root_> how do I install portage?
[16:51] <ayecee> falcon1212: ok, give me the address of the page you're looking at, it'll look like paste.ubuntu.com followed by some numbers
[16:51] <ruan> JeffJassky: kernel: [244918.862756] Out of memory: kill process 30421 (apache2) score 99154 or a child
[16:51] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: run the wpa_passphrase command again
[16:52] <falcon1212> ayecee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/588299/
[16:52] <ZarroBoogs> root_: Use gentoo?
[16:52] <ruan> JeffJassky: it attempted to kill apache, and then it crashed
[16:52] <Satisfied> okay.. so I'm going through my group file in /etc and I find these two entries.. rtkit:x:133:  and   nopasswdlogin:x:134:   ... some stuff on google suggests this is part of pulseaudio... are they fucking joking ?
[16:52] <root_> Has ubuntu not got portage?
[16:52] <ruan> root_: portage?
[16:53] <home-alone> how to mount an ntfs drive..????
[16:53] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: i ran it, then the third line again?
[16:53] <ruan> root_: check ubuntu software center, i think bitbake might be what you're looking for
[16:53] <ayecee> falcon1212: okay, that was exhausting. it looks like your wifi uses module "iwl3945", so.. "rmmod iwl3945; modprobe iwl3945" will remove it and reinsert it.
[16:53] <Jeruvy> Satisfied: language please.    Lets keep it PG-13
[16:53] <root_> ruan: it's a way to install thhings
[16:53] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: does it now look the file I put into paste.ubuntu.com?
[16:54] <ZarroBoogs> Satisfied: Please mind your language here.
[16:54] <ruan> root_: BitBake is a simple tool for the execution of tasks. It is derived from Portage, which is the package management system used by the Gentoo Linux distribution.
[16:54] <theDude_> rcconf: I was upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 beta and went on the web.  Each time a web-page came up in firefox, it forced logged me out faster than the system ever doen under any conditions.  anyways, restarted the upgrade proccess a couple of times, alas, at every major step.  The upgrade "completed" but it said it might have left my system in an unstable state.  Not having any idea how to fix this, I just figured a reboot would he
[16:54] <ruan> theDude_: well, it's better to not upgrade to a beta release
[16:54] <ayecee> falcon1212: that _might_ fix the problem after using airodump-ng. we'll see.
[16:54] <oCean> theDude_: you upgraded to an unstable release. #ubuntu+1 for support
[16:55] <falcon1212> ayecee: so i just type rmmod and my wifi should be back up?
[16:55] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: nope, still the error message about passphrase length
[16:55] <theDude_> Well guys, it's kinda late to tell me that...
[16:55] <ayecee> falcon1212: no, please reread what I said
[16:55] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: run wpa_passphrase without the "> saleem1234.conf" part
[16:55] <itaylor57> wonders how many have assumed its time to upgrade to Natty
[16:55] <falcon1212> ayecee: lol sorry im new at this
[16:56] <ZarroBoogs> theDude_: It said 'beta' that means its not ready for general consumption.
[16:56] <ayecee> falcon1212: it's okay, reading takes practice
[16:56] <meganerdca> itaylor57: it is going to be fun in here once natty is released.
[16:56] <itaylor57> meganerdca: yes it will
[16:56] <falcon1212> ayecee: sorry i dont understand it
[16:56] <ell1> good night
[16:57] <novns> is there any way to cleanup system from unneeded libraries?  deborphan isn't digging circular dependencies
[16:57] <meganerdca> itaylor57: this is the first time I have had serious problems installing Linux in about 10 years
[16:57] <ayecee> falcon1212: you will run "rmmod iwl3945" to remove the module, then run "modprobe iwl3945" to reinsert it. Is that better?
[16:57] <cognac-gamma> megnerdca: still the same outcome: sudo wpa_passphrase saleem1234 wpa ********* Passphrase must be 8..63 characters
[16:58] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: well, your passphrase is not long enough.
[16:58] <Abhijit> novns, tried bleech bit?
[16:58] <ayecee> novns: apt-get autoremove, maybe
[16:58] <ayecee> err, apt-get auto-remove
[16:58] <ruan> novns: sudo apt-get autoremove
[16:58] <ruan> not auto-remove
[16:58] <cognac-gamma> megnerdca: ok, it's the same as the networks name
[16:59] <ayecee> heh, oops.
[16:59] <novns> apt-get autoremove doesn't drok circular dependencies too
[16:59] <novns> *grok
[16:59] <ruan> when in doubt, run [command] --help
[16:59] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: are you sure all the keys are registering
[16:59] <ayecee> novns: yup. those you'll probably have to do by hand.
[17:00] <novns> for example there's a number of orphaned mysql libraries installed
[17:00] <falcon1212> so i type first rmmod iwl3945 then i type modprobe iwl3945?
[17:00] <novns> and it's depend on each other
[17:00] <cognac-gamma> megnerdca: let me check...
[17:00] <ayecee> falcon1212: yes
[17:00] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: it works for me
[17:01] <cognac-gamma> megnerdca: so what did i wrong?
[17:01] <novns> Abhijit, thaks, I'll try
[17:01] <novns> *thanks
[17:01] <Abhijit> novns, welcome
[17:01] <falcon1212> ayecee: ok ty whew that was painful ut thank you (:
[17:01] <ayecee> :)
[17:03] <thevishy> any tools to amplify guys ?
[17:03] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: not sure,
[17:03] <ruan> thevishy: amplify what exactly?
[17:03] <novns> Abhijit, nope, bleachbit is not good
[17:03] <meganerdca> thevishy: what do you want to amplify?
[17:04] <thevishy> means my mp3 or saw output is not as expected . Can I use some software to amplify the sound . I mean my speaker can do a LOT more
[17:04] <novns> thevishy, use amplifier yo amplify things! :-)
[17:04] <tradakeolac> :-/
[17:04] <novns> *to
[17:04] <ruan> thevishy: there is audio amplification on audacity
[17:04] <ruan> thevishy: also, sound settings
[17:04] <tradakeolac> wtf?
[17:05] <ruan> thevishy: do you mean for all files or just a few?
[17:05] <oCean> family friendly channel, tradakeolac
[17:05] <tradakeolac> hello
[17:05] <tradakeolac> hallo
[17:05] <tradakeolac> :-/
[17:05] <tradakeolac> goto sleep
[17:05] <thevishy> only file I am listening to
[17:05] <thevishy> ruan,
[17:05] <daws_> I have to use centos at work.... boooo. but how can I get the color and history customizations that are default in ubuntu
[17:06] <daws_> as in where are they stored?
[17:06] <ruan> thevishy: use vlc then, amplify the volume
[17:06] <larious> anyone use YF here, please need help
[17:06] <thevishy> ruan, say a video file I have ...its so low ...I can do something to amplify no ?
[17:07] <ruan> thevishy: vlc has 200% volume i think
[17:07] <thevishy> right will check it
[17:07] <ruan> yes it does
[17:07] <larious> anyone use YF here, please need help
[17:07] <Franz___> noob question: where does one install applications in ubuntu? e.g. an ide like aptana
[17:07] <mneptok> !repeat | larious
[17:07] <Franz___> and where do i install java?
[17:07] <djQuery> trying to run 10.10 on a compaq nx9010 and it just sticks and never gives me the install screen
[17:07] <ruan> Franz___: synaptic or ubuntu software center
[17:07] <ruan> Franz___: the latter is more user-friendly
[17:07] <Franz___> i meant what path
[17:07] <thevishy> yes it does have i will check if it works well
[17:07] <Franz___> the software isn't available there
[17:07] <beefman> al
[17:08] <ruan> Franz___: it doesn't matter on ubuntu, packages are put in the correct locations when installed
[17:08] <desturrr> hi all, i am using dual monitor as twinview, and when i detach the computer from monitor, i change the configuration manually from xconf file, but in order to refresh  i have to log out, but is there a way to refresh the xorg settings without logging out ?
[17:08] <mneptok> Franz___: Java certainly is. as for Aptana, ask them. it's not an Ubuntu-specific issue.
[17:08] <Franz___> i was more asking in general
[17:08] <Abhijit> novns, why?
[17:09] <Franz___> in what folder do you install applications that aren't installed via the package manager(s)?
[17:09] <ruan> Franz___: terminal can be used to install java
[17:09] <ruan> Franz___: you extract them to a folder
[17:09] <ruan> Franz___: anywhere
[17:09] <edbian> Franz___, usually /home/you/bin is a good place.  Or /usr/local/bin to let others run it as well
[17:09] <mneptok> Franz___: so choose. /sbin, /bin, usr/local, /usr/local/bin, /$HOME/bin .... up to you
[17:09] <desturrr> hi all, i am using dual monitor as twinview, and when i detach the computer from monitor, i change the configuration manually from xconf file, but in order to refresh i have to log out, but is there a way to refresh the xorg settings without logging out ?
[17:09] <edbian> mneptok, Franz___ ew, no don't put it in /sbin or /bin that's not right.
[17:09] <ruan> Franz___: if you want to install java, type "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre" in a terminal
[17:10] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: thanks very much anyway. any other idea?
[17:10] <mneptok> edbian: it's not a good choice, but it's an option. but anyone that wants to manually install stuff rather than use the package manager should know all the potential problems. ;)
[17:10] <falcon1212> ayecee:it worked!!!!!!
[17:10] <edbian> mneptok, true
[17:11] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: not without knowing more.  Having access to the router is a plus, since we can check settings
[17:11] <mneptok> edbian: this is wht the correct answer should be , "Use the package manager, or talk to each project and find out what they recommend."
[17:11] <Witchsong> I need to install GDB 6.8 on my Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick to get rid of some warnings in Qt Creator, but I cannot find any way to actually do this downgrade. Anyone know how to do it?
[17:11] <sylphid> does anyone know of a utility that can convert prompts for cli stdin  to gui dialog box?
[17:12] <edbian> mneptok, Here is the really correct answer: use the package manager.
[17:12] <mneptok> edbian: +1. i owe you a Coke. :)
[17:12] <edbian> :)
[17:12] <jiltdil> how to check label of all partition with a single command?
[17:12] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: ok. how can access the router?
[17:13] <sylphid> jiltdil: fdisk -l
[17:13] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: from cLI or any other way?
[17:13] <jiltdil> sylphid:using e2label
[17:14] <djQuery> trying to boot compaq nx9010 from usb drive and it never finishes loading
[17:15] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: cos i m connected to the router with ethernetcable
[17:15] <jiltdil> sylphid: like e2label /dev/sda1  but it only tells about sda1 i want to use this command for all in a single line is there any syntax that i add to it to display all
[17:16] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: it depends on the router, usually it is with a web browser
[17:16] <sylphid> jiltdil: i dont have any labels set up to test but try e2label /dev/sda[1-9]
[17:16] <om26er> bs_, there there :)
[17:16] <jiltdil> sylphid:ok wait
[17:16] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca:ip addr show eth0
[17:16] <cognac-gamma> 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000
[17:17] <cognac-gamma>     link/ether 00:c0:9f:43:a6:77 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[17:17] <cognac-gamma>     inet <IP_ADDRESS>/24 brd <IP_ADDRESS> scope global eth0
[17:17] <cognac-gamma>     inet6 fe80::2c0:9fff:fe43:a677/64 scope link
[17:17] <FloodBot1> cognac-gamma: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:17] <cognac-gamma>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
[17:17] <jiltdil> sylphid: no this says new label not worked
[17:17] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: sorry for flooding
[17:18] <gianluca> chi parla italiano
[17:18] <meganerdca> cognac-gamma: ip route is what you are looking for, the IP that is your default gateway is likely the router
[17:18] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca:http://paste.ubuntu.com/588311/
[17:18] <meganerdca> gotta run though
[17:19] <sylphid> jiltdil: for x in $(ls /dev/sd?[0-9]); do e2label $x; done
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> new labels I think MAY need a reboot for the kernel to notice the change
[17:20] <sylphid> Dr_Willis: partprobe should pick it up
[17:20] <efesto> hello, good afternoon, i have a little problem on ubuntu 10.10, it not detects that i'm on laptop,
[17:20] <efesto> no battery detected, or ac connection
[17:20] <efesto> any idea where to begin to found a solution?
[17:21] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: neither <IP_ADDRESS> or .0.2 or 0.1
[17:21] <magn3ts> Cantebury is April fool's right?
[17:21] <magn3ts> I feel stupid asking
[17:21] <jiltdil> sylphid:ok thatks i will try
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> efesto:  i was thinking there was some ubuntu-laptop package.. but that may be what i rember from a few releases back
[17:22] <sylphid> does anyone know of a utility that can convert prompts for cli stdin  to gui dialog box?
[17:22] <efesto> Dr_Willis, i tried same dvd on other laptop and install fine, the "battery" and those things.... is strange
[17:22] <Guest29879> 大家好阿
[17:22] <oCean> sylphid: e2label does not require partprobe, it's effective immediately
[17:22] <ikonia> sylphid: there are toolkits for dialog boxes, but it's not a conversion, it has to be put into a script and worked with
[17:22] <efesto> don't show me the diference if is connected to ac or not... and the icon doesn't appear to
[17:23] <Guest29879> hi
[17:23] <beniwtv> efesto: By default, the icon only appears while charging or discarging.
[17:23] <ikonia> beniwtv: it appears if it's fully charged showing AC power
[17:23] <efesto> beniwtv, i'm "charging" now, is the first charge
[17:24] <efesto> U_U
[17:24] <wesada> Hi All.
[17:24] <beniwtv> ikonia: Not on my laptop, shomehow...
[17:24] <wesada> Just wondering if anyone has experience with fcron?
[17:24] <ikonia> it all depends on the power managment systems your laptop use
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> !info fcron
[17:25] <efesto> in google i've found any about problems with api
[17:25] <wesada> I'd like to run a job every Thursday,Saturday and Sunday at some point between 0200 and 0500 and on boot if the machine was down.
[17:25] <efesto> but... i don't see any about it in log files
[17:26] <home-alone> how to get Ubuntu for other arcitactures (other than 386 )...??????
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> home-alone:  the ubuntu homepage has download links somewhere. 64bit 32bit.. and i think arm
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> !64bit
[17:26] <oCean> !arm > home-alone
[17:27] <oCean> !ppc > home-alone
[17:27] <cognac-gamma> meganerdca: so we give it up at this point?
[17:27] <genii-around> !ps3
[17:27] <home-alone> ok thank you . I will see
[17:27] <genii-around> Woops
[17:28] <sllide> hmm ubuntu on a ps3
[17:28] <sllide> would work quite well with the wireless and usb ports
[17:28] <ikonia> it's a dead project
[17:29] <efesto> Dr_Willis, about fcron... do u think that it can solve my "problem"?
[17:29] <falcon1212> on Backtrack 4 what is the command to shutdown your computer?
[17:29] <zmbi> shutdown :)
[17:29] <root_> falcon1212: shutdown
[17:29] <efesto> ahm, my laptop is a intel p6000, runing on 32b
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> efesto:  no idea. I rarely even use cron these days.
[17:29] <oCean> falcon1212: this is not the channel for backtrack support
[17:30] <falcon1212> ok ty
[17:30] <root_> falcon1212: or poweroff
[17:30] <soreau> falcon1212: Or poweroff
[17:30] <root_> or halt; poweroff
[17:30] <zmbi> shutdown works
[17:30] <soreau> or
[17:30] <falcon1212> ty every1
[17:30] <Giant81> shutdown /h now
[17:30] <ikonia> guys - this isn't back track linux support
[17:30] <soreau> ! backtrack | falcon1212
[17:30] <ikonia> Giant81: that's not a valid command
[17:30] <edbian> ikonia, Why do so many backtrack users end up here?
[17:30] <Magi_tunnel> I don't think their ready to cut all the hardlines yet..
[17:30] <Giant81> really? I htought it was valid on just about all distros
[17:31] <root_> ikonia: it's the same in all distros
[17:31] <soreau> root_: But we don't support backtrack at all here
[17:31] <root_> soreau: it's the same in all distros
[17:31] <soreau> root_: But we don't support backtrack at all here
[17:31] <ikonia> root_: so ?
[17:31] <ikonia> Giant81: /h is not an option
[17:31] <ikonia> root_: we don't support all distros, just ubuntu
[17:31] <kel39> hi, im having problems after i made a partition table and installed ubuntu on my machine. I have installed ubuntu succesfully, but now cannot access my other partition: Failed to read last sector<PHONE_NUMBER>): Invalid argument
[17:31] <kel39> any help?
[17:31] <Giant81>  /h has always been halt
[17:31] <Giant81> on every ditstro I've used
[17:31] <dqwadwqfaewa> run fsck?
[17:31] <Giant81> and /r to restart
[17:31] <ikonia> Giant81: /h isn't an argument -h is though
[17:32] <zmbi> Magi_tunnel: can some have just diferent distros?
[17:32] <Giant81> ahhh ty, been on windows too long
[17:32] <jiltdil> any good link to read about the kernel and its related files?
[17:32] <zmbi> think so
[17:32] <soreau> kel39: Are you sure that partition isn't corrupted?
[17:32] <kel39> dqwadwqfaewa: I've tried, fsck.ntfs not found
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> !kernel
[17:32] <root_> sorry, partiting has nothing to do with ubuntu kel39 go to ##hardware or ##linux
[17:32] <dqwadwqfaewa> http://kernelnewbies.org/
[17:32] <jmwpc> When connectint a USB stick to a server system, how do I find out what device to use so I can mount it?
[17:32] <ikonia> jiltdil: nothing to do with ubuntu, so offtopic here
[17:32] <jmwpc> from the command line
[17:32] <kel39> soreau: not 100% sure, but in gnome it detects it as 'Backup' which was its name
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> kel39:  its best to check/fix a ntfs filesystem from windows.
[17:32] <ikonia> root_: yes it does, please don't try to be sillyt
[17:32] <kel39> Dr_Willis: ok
[17:32] <cognac-gamma> anyone can help with wireless issues?
[17:33] <RobinJ> omg, ubuntu 7.10 live CD wont start because it cant mount my EXT4 partition
[17:33] <kel39> in windows its not even registering as NTFS
[17:33] <jiltdil> ikonia: any channel  for this
[17:33] <kel39> but does show in disk management
[17:33] <root_> !wifi > cognac-gamma
[17:33] <soreau> kel39: Sounds like it could be corrupted
[17:33] <kel39> just with nothing
[17:33] <kel39> ok
[17:33] <kel39> evne though its name remains?
[17:33] <ikonia> jiltdil: ##kernel but you'll not be welcome asking those sorts of questions, it's quite "tough"
[17:33] <cognac-gamma> ok ty
[17:33] <soreau> kel39: Some or most of the data may still be in tact
[17:34] <kel39> all I did was create a partition table, made 30gb for / (ext4)  and 5gb for swap rest was ticked as 'not used'
[17:34] <meganerdca> kel39: either install ntfstools and run fixntfs, or use Windows disk, recovery console, and chkdsk
[17:34] <lampe2> hey iam looking for a lightwhiting "tasks manager"(not a process manager) for ubuntu ?
[17:34] <kel39> ok
[17:34] <oCean> !gutsy | RobinJ
[17:34] <jiltdil> ikonia: actually i am a new learnel and i want to learn more about this so can i do kernel configuration as project
[17:34] <root_> lampe2: top
[17:34] <RobinJ> ....
[17:34] <evermean> can someone explain to me the set-user-ID/set-group-ID bits (chmod u+s xyz) they don't make much sense to me
[17:34] <dqwadwqfaewa> lampe2: htop
[17:34] <soreau> kel39: and it also could be a physical problem (ie. bad hard drive sector(s))
[17:34] <ikonia> !permissions | extraymond
[17:34] <kel39> under that not used bit, it had 40gb as free space and 562gb used
[17:34] <oCean> root_: how is top a taksmanager?
[17:34] <kel39> ok soreau
[17:34] <oCean> *taskmanager even
[17:35] <RobinJ> RobinJ: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) was the seventh release of Ubuntu. << and the last good working one, it seems
[17:35] <kel39> i think ill reboot into windows and try chkdsk
[17:35] <root_> oCean: how is it not?
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> i wonder what 'task manager' does exactly.
[17:35] <dqwadwqfaewa> lol?
[17:35] <lampe2> iamn something like "getting things gnome" not a taskkiller...
[17:35] <root_> wtf why was I kicked?
[17:35] <dqwadwqfaewa> :D
[17:35] <ikonia> root_: control the language
[17:35] <geegeegee> Has anyone used a USB TV tuner?
[17:35] <tyreza> hello
[17:35] <tyreza> there
[17:36] <root_> anyway, top is the linux task manager
[17:36] <ikonia> root_: no it's not
[17:36] <tyreza> who know about postfix ?
[17:36] <genii-around> RobinJ: It wasn't the seventh release. It was released in October (10th month) of 2007 (the 7 in the designation)
[17:36] <root_> ikonia: how is it not?
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> !info top
[17:36] <ikonia> root_: it is not a task manager, it displays processes and system information
[17:36] <tyreza> hello
[17:36] <evermean> i'll try it again
[17:36] <evermean> can someone explain to me the set-user-ID/set-group-ID bits (chmod u+s xyz) they don't make much sense to me
[17:36] <tyreza> anyone know about postfix ?
[17:36] <ikonia> evermean: read the url ubottu sent you
[17:36] <root_> ikonia: and you can press k to kill the selected task.....
[17:36] <ikonia> tyreza: just ask the question
[17:37] <dqwadwqfaewa> !permissions|evermean
[17:37] <ikonia> root_: you can press 1 to show cpu count
[17:37] <RobinJ> !gutsy | genii-around
[17:37] <RobinJ> i dunno, the bot says it is :p
[17:37] <geegeegee> Has anyone used a USB TV tuner?
[17:37] <root_> top most certainly is a task manager amd a very good one at thaty
[17:37] <tyreza> well i  followed a tutorial talking about postfix installation with mysql
[17:37] <Paddy_NI> root_: htop is nice
[17:37] <genii-around> RobinJ: Ah, OK :) Coincidence
[17:37] <ikonia> it's a useful tool no question
[17:37] <RobinJ> :p
[17:37] <beniwtv> geegeegee: Just ask your question
[17:37] <evermean> ubottu: sorry i overlooked that...thanks
[17:38] <DShepherd> I havent' been here in a while. How goes? :D
[17:38] <tyreza> i have done everything but the authentification the password not match ? i don't know which password i have to use ? ikonia
[17:38] <geegeegee> is the picture a decent resolution
[17:38] <Paddy_NI> !info htop | root_
[17:38] <Witchsong> Is it somehow possible to upgrade Qt Creator from 2.0.1 to 2.1.0 through the package manager? At the moment it only lists 2.0.1 and no upgrade available?
[17:38] <evermean> ikonia: sorry i overlooked that...thanks...pretty clever bot :)
[17:38] <asksoon> test
[17:39] <IdleOne> fail
[17:39] <dqwadwqfaewa> no u
[17:39] <ssureshot> can you have two search statements in resolve.conf?
[17:39] <beniwtv> geegeegee: Depends on your TV tuner, if it is analog res will be low if it is DVB res will be quite ok
[17:39] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: Could be in the backports repo other than that you may have to use a ppa
[17:39] <tyreza> HELO
[17:39] <geegeegee> beniwtv, Its DVB-T Do you know what the specific resolution is?
[17:39] <tyreza> DO YOU GET MY QUESTIOON ?
[17:39] <dqwadwqfaewa> no
[17:39] <tyreza> well i  followed a tutorial talking about postfix installation with mysql
[17:39] <tyreza> i have done everything but the authentification the password not match ? i don't know which password i have to use ? ikonia
[17:40] <ikonia> tyreza: you use the passwords you setup for the mail boxes
[17:40] <Witchsong> Paddy_NI: Is the backports repo something I need to add manually?
[17:40] <tyreza> no one matching
[17:40] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: You should be able to enable it under "system > administration > software sources"
[17:40] <tyreza> if my domain is : mydomain.tld
[17:41] <tyreza> what is the smtp url ?
[17:41] <tyreza> and the imap url ?
[17:41] <dqwadwqfaewa> fjekafewawe kjwafjw eajfwejfwalöjfwfaweawpaw jwoajfop waofjekafewawe kjwafjw eajfwejfwalöjfwfaweawpaw jwoajfop wao
[17:41] <dqwadwqfaewa> fjekafewawe kjwafjw eajfwejfwalöjfwfaweawpaw jwoajfop waofjekafewawe kjwafjw eajfwejfwalöjfwfaweawpaw jwoajfop wao
[17:41] <dqwadwqfaewa> fjekafewawe kjwafjw eajfwejfwalöjfwfaweawpaw jwoajfop waofjekafewawe kjwafjw eajfwejfwalöjfwfaweawpaw jwoajfop wao
[17:41] <FloodBot1> dqwadwqfaewa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:41] <dqwadwqfaewa> fjekafewawe kjwafjw eajfwejfwalöjfwfaweawpaw jwoajfop waofjekafewawe kjwafjw eajfwejfwalöjfwfaweawpaw jwoajfop wao
[17:41] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: If it's not there then a ppa may be your only option
[17:41] <geegeegee> tyreza, to get php to send an email?
[17:41] <ikonia> tyreza: they aren't URL
[17:41] <beniwtv> geegeegee: there is standard and high quality definitions, but it depens if your TV tuner supports HD or not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Video_Broadcasting
[17:41] <geegeegee> I just installed sendmail and it worked
[17:41] <geegeegee> oh ok thanks beniwtv
[17:41] <studiotoys> hello
[17:42] <evermean> ikonia: sorry to bother you again but the s bit is not explained on that page
[17:42] <studiotoys> anyone know how to back up konversations server list ?
[17:42] <beniwtv> geegeegee: My USB tuner supports HD and it's 1080p
[17:42] <root_> studiotoys: these guys probably do - #konversation
[17:42] <RobinJ> * FloodBot1 zet modus op +z #ubuntu
[17:42] <RobinJ> * FloodBot1 zet modus op +q #ubuntu dqwadwqfaewa!*@* << uhm... why does it do that in stead of just kicking and banning?
[17:42] <ikonia> evermean: the s bit is setuid which basically makes it execute by the user is was created by/owner
[17:42] <necromancer> is there a way to set up user "aliases"?
[17:42] <cognac-gamma> bye
[17:42] <beniwtv> geegeegee: But not all channels stream in HD :(
[17:42] <necromancer> so if i had an account necromancer@my-vps, i could also access it using tom@my-vps?
[17:43] <geegeegee> im not sure how many HD DVB-T channels there are where i live though
[17:43] <necromancer> and it would be the same user account
[17:43] <nuo> hi every one :)
[17:43] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: Any joy?
[17:43] <tyreza> so how i have to  configure it with thunderbird ? ikonia
[17:43] <bgold> hey, can anyone help me install chrome on Natty?
[17:43] <Witchsong> Paddy_NI: Enabled the backports repo, but it still doesn't seem to have 2.1 available.
[17:43] <root_> necromancer: add many users to the same PID?
[17:43] <bgold> it says i need to install libcurl3, but sudo apt-get install libcurl3 doesn't work
[17:43] <root_> necromancer: add many users to the same UID?
[17:43] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: okay let me check
[17:44] <evermean> ikonia: yeah does that mean that i can execute that file when i am logged in with a different user?
[17:44] <necromancer> root_: yeah i guess...is that possible? :)
[17:44] <tyreza> hello***
[17:44] <root_> necromancer: I think so. look at man usermod
[17:44] <necromancer> thanks
[17:44] <evermean> ikonia: should be like that or am i completely wrong?
[17:45] <carli2> hi
[17:45] <ikonia> evermean: depends on the permissions of the file
[17:46] <carli2> i have this problem<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:46] <carli2> how can i workaround it?
[17:46] <Flexy> What is kicking up "an application wants to create a new keyring" popup every now and then? I don't want keyrings added...
[17:46] <evermean> ikonia: these are my permission settings: -rwsr--r-- 1 testuser testuser 8385 2011-04-01 18:16 hello*
[17:46] <carli2> when i touch the scroll region of my touchpad, xorg crashes
[17:46] <ikonia> evermean: only the file owner could execute that
[17:47] <JeffJassky> Hey, guys. Does this look right? http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffjassky/5580067910/#/photos/jeffjassky/5580067910/lightbox/
[17:47] <nuo> when it boot with the last version of kernel i get an error (invalid compression system halted ) but when i boot with the old one on recovery mode it work ,how i can fix this?
[17:47] <JeffJassky> why are there so many processes for apache running?
[17:47] <carli2> where is the natty channel?
[17:47] <KB1JWQ> JeffJassky: Probably because of the number of threads/children for apache is set that way?
[17:47] <KB1JWQ> carli2: #ubuntu+1
[17:47] <Witchsong> Paddy_NI: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreato <-- This lists 2.1.0 only on the Natty Narwhal, does that mean I have to upgrade my Ubuntu to get 2.1 into the package manager?
[17:48] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: Someone filed a bug about QT Creator 2.1 not being in the maverick backports repo
[17:48] <JeffJassky> KB1JWQ: Is that normal? I'm rather new to server admin..
[17:48] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: I would not upgrade to an unstable build of ubuntu just for one app
[17:48] <Witchsong> Paddy_NI: Cheers, did it say anything about when it would be fixed?
[17:48] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: seems that it may not be, people seem to be compiling it themselves
[17:49] <Flexy> What is kicking up "an application wants to create a new keyring" popup every now and then?
[17:49] <MadCarburetor> Hi
[17:49] <Witchsong> Paddy_NI: Meh, guess that leaves me with the option to install it from outside the package manager.
[17:49] <evermean> ikonia: hmmm so where is the point then? Lets say I change the permission to that any member of the testuser group can execute that progam, if some user does, the program will be run as testuser and not as user XYZ...did i get it right?
[17:49] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: yeah sadly
[17:49] <nuo> hi MadCarburetor,
[17:50] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: Canonical really need to handle this better
[17:50] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: having to upgrade your entire OS to get a new version of an application is completely brain dead
[17:50] <Witchsong> XD
[17:51] <Kor9999> hi, Does anyone know how I can leave my wireless card on all the time?, ubuntu always turn it off when I put to sleep the netbook, I shut it down or put into hibernation. The problem is that ubuntu still does not recognize the card and I have to restart your computer.
[17:51]  * Paddy_NI waits for debian rolling
[17:51] <MadCarburetor> I Downloaded a zip file of 175mb, But the only folder in it is 169.5mb, Which is the size of the zip file larger then its contents
[17:52] <Witchsong> Either your file included hidden files, was broken or the algorithm didn't handle those data too well when it packed the zip. :P
[17:53] <Combatjuan> How do I use apt-get to install from source?    Must I use dpkg to actually install?
[17:54] <Witchsong> Paddy_NI: Just to check, should I uninstall the 2.0.1 version from the package manager before I install 2.1? Or doesn't that really matter on Ubuntu?
[17:54] <beniwtv> Combatjuan: yes, use the generated debs
[17:54] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: I would just to keep things from getting confused
[17:55] <Combatjuan> beniwtv: But dpkg doesn't handle dependencies and whatnot.  Or does it?  Or do I not need to worry about that since build-dep theoretically took care of that for me?
[17:55] <Kor9999> hi everybody, Does anyone know how can i leave my wireless card on all the time?, ubuntu always turn it off when I put to sleep the netbook, I shut it down or put into hibernation. The problem is that ubuntu still does not recognize the card and I have to restart your computer.
[17:55] <beniwtv> Combatjuan: No, you need to install them in order, else it will error out for the dependencies
[17:55] <Roasted> Has anybody ran Ubuntu on a Windows domain using Likewise Open? I'm curious if there's a way to still log in as a domain user even when you're away from the domain, such as Windows can.
[17:56] <Witchsong> Paddy_NI: Yeah, that was the issue I was worried about. After installing NVIDIA official drivers alongside the nvidia-current package I am somewhat doubtful to installing versions alongside each other. :p
[17:56] <Combatjuan> beniwtv: Forgive my insistence.  It seems like apt-get should have an --install option or something (for the source command) while would handle that for me.  You're sure nothing like that exists.
[17:56] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: sometimes that is handled very well.. its just not consistent yet
[17:57] <beniwtv> Combatjuan: I'm not aware of one, I always install manually, try the man page.
[17:57] <genii-around> Combatjuan: apt-get -b source package
[17:57] <Combatjuan> beniwtv: I did, of course, try the man page.  Thanks for your help.
[17:58] <Combatjuan> genii-around: The man page makes it appear as though -b is the same as --build is the same as --compile.
[17:58] <beniwtv> Combatjuan: Also, I think if all the external dependencies are satisfied, you can use *.deb and it'll install them in order...
[17:59] <genii-around> Combatjuan: Ah, you want it to actually put the binaries compiled into their system areas, etc?
[17:59] <Combatjuan> genii-around: Yes.
[17:59] <Witchsong> Paddy_NI: When I try remove the qtcreator package, it also tries to remove the qt-sdk package - does that mean it's a part of the sdk and I cannot remove one without removing the other?
[17:59] <Witchsong> (Sorry for asking a lot)
[17:59] <Combatjuan> beniwtv: Good idea.  I'll try that.
[18:00] <Paddy_NI> Witchsong: Yeah one is a dependency of the other
[18:01] <mello> Hi! im trying to install ubuntu 110.04 on a virtual pc, but i cant get unity to work. how come? i have a nvida graphic card if thats a problem, and my os is ubuntu 10.10
[18:01] <IdleOne> mello: #ubuntu+1 for natty/11.04 help
[18:01] <Witchsong> And also, what is the difference between Mark for Removal and Mark for Complete Removal in the Synaptic Package Manager?
[18:01] <mello> ok thnx IdleOne
[18:01] <Witchsong> Does Removal leave something behind?
[18:02] <beniwtv> Witchsong: It leaves your configuration intact
[18:02] <IdleOne> Witchsong: complete removal also removes the config files for the app.
[18:02] <Witchsong> Ah, bit like the "Remove user files and settings" that often are in Windows uninstallers?
[18:02] <IdleOne> correct
[18:03] <dtcrshr> on ubuntu server, how do i disable users fron granting root access by using sudo su root?
[18:03] <dtcrshr> i got none of them um the visudo list, only root all all all
[18:03] <thevishy> mplayer vs vlc ?
[18:03] <IdleOne> !polls
[18:03] <beniwtv> dtcrshr: If they are not in the admin group, they have no sudo access
[18:04] <thevishy> ok
[18:04] <Witchsong> thevishy: I use VLC because MPlayer gave low-resolution subtitles for me.
[18:05] <tschundeee> please help: which eclipse distro for playframework.org web-dev?
[18:05] <thevishy> thanks , I like the sound of vlc (amoplification)
[18:05] <dtcrshr> beniwtv, so I have two options, remove them from the admin group, or list theyr names in visudo with something as user = none none none ?
[18:06] <beniwtv> dtcrshr: Yes, I usually go and remove them from the admin group, as they do not need it.
[18:07] <Combatjuan> dtcrshr: If you specifically want to keep them from using the su command, sudo allows for that.  I've never done it, but it's quite possible.
[18:07] <beniwtv> dtcrshr: But you can still assign them to other groups like audio, etc...
[18:07] <Roasted> Has anybody ran Ubuntu on a Windows domain using Likewise Open? I'm curious if there's a way to still log in as a domain user even when you're away from the domain, such as Windows can.
[18:09] <thevishy> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:09] <ikonia> Roasted: most ldap clients will allow cached credentials the same as windows, I do this all the time
[18:09] <Roasted> ikonia, are you using likewise open with ubuntu?
[18:09] <ikonia> not likewise specfically
[18:10] <dtcrshr> I see. well i need them to be able to run commands with sudo, but i want to block them to get as root. since sudo su root works, i didnt figure out how to do that
[18:10] <Roasted> ikonia, did you have to do something special to cache the credentials? or did it function like that by default?
[18:10] <woonix> Roasted: Likewise Enterprise for sure supports cached credentials. I don't know if the Open version has that stripped off.
[18:10] <beniwtv> dtcrshr: In that case, you can specifically set the commands that are enabled/disabled in sudo
[18:10] <Roasted> woonix, it wouldn't surprise me, I suppose. It didn't work for me on version 6 of likewise open. but at the same time I wasn't sure if I had to set something to do that or not.
[18:10] <ikonia> Roasted: as I recall it is a schema option in the AD schema that you enable as the machines join the domain, you also have a cached period, eg: allow cached credentials for 3 weeks before teh need for a new access token
[18:11] <woonix> Roasted, you'd think something like that would be on by default, if it were available at all.
[18:11] <Roasted> ikonia, I think I understand. Are you basically referring to it as there must be a "switch" to enable during the join process?
[18:12] <wildc4rd> evenin' all!
[18:12] <RobinJ> food! xD http://www.mustardsnack.com/
[18:12] <ikonia> Roasted: not quiet, it's normally part of the AD schema settings and when your linux machine joins the domains it takes those settings to it's local setting
[18:12] <Combatjuan> dtcrshr: Unfortunately, I can't help you on the specifics.  And it might be tricky to keep people from getting around it (by, for example sudo vim /etc/sudoers themselves).  But look at man sudoers and search for "Cmnd".  Presumably someone else has done this too.  But I've have little luck searching.
[18:12] <larious> ayecee: are you there
[18:12] <ikonia> RobinJ: why did you post that in an ubuntu support channel ?
[18:13] <Roasted> ikonia, so it's likely if our windows boxes do that by default, then you'd expect it to be enabled - and therefore available for our ubuntu machines as well, right?
[18:13] <dtcrshr> beniwtv,where to i do that? i want users to dont be able to use sudo su root and be root with theyr own password. users would only be root if they log in as this, wich they have to know the password
[18:13] <dtcrshr> Combatjuan, oh thanks
[18:13] <meelu> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:13] <meelu> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:13] <ikonia> Roasted: that's a reasonable assumtion yes, however I'm sure there maybe clients that behave differently, but the generic openldap ones certainly play by the AD policies
[18:13] <meelu> can anyone help quickly one that plz
[18:13] <dtcrshr> ill google some more then. quite worried about this access policy under ubuntu server
[18:13] <ikonia> meelu: close all your package manager windows
[18:13] <meelu> i was runnig a setup i stoped it
[18:14] <meelu> ikonia how? killall -9?
[18:14] <ikonia> meelu: however you want
[18:14] <larious> having a problem install my deb package, can anyone help me out?
[18:14] <Roasted> ikonia, appreciate the feedback. I posted this question on likewise forums, but their forums aren't the most active in the world. I suppose I'll take my chances and be patient and see what they come back with.
[18:14] <meelu> i dunno how please help
[18:14] <Roasted> ikonia, at least their linux section isn't.
[18:14] <beniwtv> dtcrshr: See the man page. I would create a group for them, and specifically enable the commands they are allowed to execute. Else, they might find a way around it as Combatjuan mentioned.
[18:14] <Kayron> Hello...I have a question. I’m using cksfv on a 32bit system. It seems report size of files incorrectly...could this be related?
[18:14] <woonix> Roasted, I'm looking at the Open vs Enterprise comparison, and for the Open version it mentions the ability to apply a group policy to Linux systems to "Logon using Kerberos authentication and allow cached logon credentials", so it sounds like the feature exists in Open.
[18:14] <ikonia> Roasted: it's worth as you're doing checking client specific info, but generic yes, cached credentials are fine
[18:14] <wildc4rd> looking for help getting an onboard sound card to work
[18:15] <beniwtv> dtcrshr: Ideally, non-primary users should not need root access anyway.
[18:15] <larious> having a problem install my deb package, can anyone help me out?
[18:15] <meelu> how do i close packet manager windowS?
[18:15] <Kayron> different size from ls -la output
[18:15] <meelu> package
[18:15] <meelu> manager
[18:15] <Roasted> woonix, could you link me to what you're looking at by chance?
[18:15] <ikonia> meelu: are there any package manager windows open ?
[18:15] <larious> having a problem install my deb package, can anyone help me out?
[18:15] <woonix> Roasted, http://www.likewise.com/products/likewise_open/comparing_enterprise_and_open.php  it's at the bottom in the Feature Comparison table.
[18:15] <ikonia> larious: try telling us the problems
[18:15] <Roasted> woonix, appreciate it bro.
[18:15] <Roasted> you too ikonia
[18:15] <Combatjuan> larious: What seems to be the problem?
[18:15] <mello> i have 3 hdd in my computer, one with the ubuntu os on it and the other are just for everything else, the problem is that ubuntu sees them as virtual drives and they dont start with the computer i have to manually mount them, can i change this so they mount whe nthe computer start?
[18:15] <meelu> there could be ikonia, i was setting up nginx and pressed ctrl + z when it was doing sometim
[18:16] <Roasted> woonix, hey, by cahnce are you using version 6?
[18:16] <Roasted> woonix, like do you USE likewise open?
[18:16] <ikonia> meelu: can you visually see any package manager windows ?
[18:16] <meelu> i cant visually see anything i am remotely connecting through putty ikonia? you mean grep?
[18:16] <woonix> Roasted, I never heard of it until you mentioned it. I learned something new today :)
[18:16] <larious> Combatjuan: Errors were encountered while processing: openvpn
[18:16] <ikonia> ok, remove the /var/lib/dpkg/lock file thenm
[18:16] <meelu> top i mean
[18:17] <Roasted> woonix, hahaha, sounds good. I was just curious because version 5.4 (or 5.2, whatever it is) in the 10.10 repos come with a GUI. In version6  I installed from the site I joined via terminal. I was curious where my GUI app for it went. :(
[18:17] <larious> Combatjuan: did you got my msg
[18:18] <solstice> hi. is unity the default gui on beta 1 ? because I only got an empty left and top desktop. and on second boot, I got what seems to be a gnome desktop with changed top bar
[18:18] <Combatjuan> larious: Yes.  You'd be wise to settle down a bit though.  Helping takes time.  What command did you run?
[18:18] <ZarroBoogs> solstice : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Natty/11.04 support/discussion.
[18:18] <solstice> ok
[18:18] <larious> Combatjuan: sudo dpkg -i openvpn_2.2-beta5-ubuntu0_i386.deb
[18:20] <Combatjuan> larious: Use a paste site (e.g. http://goo.gl/ixcN9) and past the full output of the command.  Also, tail /var/log/dpkg.log and see if anything interesting is there.
[18:21] <mello> i have a hdd that is 1tb big and it crashes all the time in ubuntu, hade the same problem in windows but when i updatet my graphic card it fixed it. how can i solve this problem in ubuntu?
[18:22] <efesto> emmm, well, about my previous question, the solve was easy, i should update the bios
[18:22] <efesto> acer bios "by default" is very bad... sorry... noob problem
[18:22] <efesto> and thanks for hear me :)
[18:23] <larious> Combatjuan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/588329/
[18:23] <chasarey> hola
[18:24] <woonix> chasarey, buenos dias
[18:24] <chasarey> hay alguien?
[18:24] <chasarey> hola woonix
[18:24] <root_> what's the cli command to grab a file from the internet and put it in the working directory?
[18:24] <ikonia> wget
[18:24] <root_> ty sir
[18:24] <ikonia> or curl
[18:25] <yomismomis> hola a todo
[18:25] <Combatjuan> larious: Looks like dependency problems.  openvpn can't be installed because it requires some other packages.  You'll have to grab liblz02, libpkcs11-helper, openvpn-blacklist and whatever others are needed (probably from the same place as you got the openvpn deb).
[18:25] <meelu> damn
[18:25] <meelu> root@server56151:~# lsof | grep /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[18:25] <meelu> apt-get   12173     root   23uW     REG              251,2        0   67371498 /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[18:25] <meelu> root@server56151:~# killall -9 12173
[18:25] <meelu> 12173: no process found
[18:25] <FloodBot2> meelu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:25] <meelu> the duck man how do i kill that
[18:26] <Combatjuan> larious: Is there some reason you can't use the openvpn packages in the official repository (apt-get install openvpn)?
[18:26] <woonix> meelu, killall is used with a process name, not a pid. Just use regular kill with the process id
[18:26] <larious> Combatjuan: but there is no other file like that there
[18:27] <ZarroBoogs> !aptfix | meelu
[18:28] <meelu> didnt elp
[18:28] <meelu> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:28] <Combatjuan> larious: Wherever "there" is, why use it instead of the ubuntu repository?  Installing 3rd party .debs is much harder and potentially dangerous compared to using your distro's packages.  There must be a reason you're using other ones.
[18:28] <wildc4rd> can I run Ubuntu purely from an SD card, on a preinstalled HP laptop that I don't want to disrupt the disk of?
[18:28] <beniwtv> meelu: It is not killall, but kill
[18:28] <yomismomis> alguien ha conseguido instalar el simulador espacial pioneer?, me da un error  "no se encuentra gl""
[18:28] <ZarroBoogs> !es | yomismomis
[18:28] <meelu> beniwtv thanks
[18:29] <Scunizi> If I have an onboard nvidia graphics card with hdmi, vga & dvi out, can I use all three at the same time?  2 work well together already.
[18:29] <larious> Combatjuan: my ubuntu is offline, I cant go online without fixing up two package, that package will help me to go online
[18:30] <mello> i have a hdd that is 1tb big and it crashes all the time in ubuntu, hade the same problem in windows but when i updatet my graphic card it fixed it. how can i solve this problem in ubuntu?
[18:30] <beniwtv> wildc4rd: Yes, you can install to a SD/removable drive, supposing it has enough space.
[18:30] <DasEi> !ot
[18:30] <Morten_> Hi, does anyone have any experience with DLNA and a linux machine?
[18:31] <Combatjuan> larious: I see.  It'll be tedious, but you'll need to grab all those packages openvpn requires.  I recommend getting them from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for whatever version you're using.
[18:31] <ayush_> anyone else have problems with the beta1 iso?
[18:31] <wildc4rd> beniwtv, its 16 gig, should be fine I imagine
[18:31] <beniwtv> wildc4rd: Yes, minimum is 3GB IIRC
[18:32] <wildc4rd> beniwtv, I can keep it entirely separate? including the bootloader
[18:32] <Combatjuan> larious: To get a full list of dependencies: "% apt-cache depends openvpn"
[18:33] <beniwtv> wildc4rd: Yes, there is an option in the installer to put GRUB on another drive, not the primary drive.
[18:34] <lovesthethianood> hi my kubuntu desktop has vanished taking along my menu bar/everything. right clicking does nothing. help please?
[18:34] <kyan> Hello. My computer has suddenly become very slow, after attempting to run disk wiping Also, my external hard drive has refused to mount automatically on boot, which (mostly) it has previously done.
[18:34] <kyan> What should I do to diagnose and solve those problems?
[18:35] <edbian> lovesthethianood, alt + F2 works?
[18:35] <dagon666> ikonia: hello again, unfortunately after changes in mdadm.conf I still cannot boot the raid5 without one drive missing
[18:35] <beniwtv> kyan: The "dmesg" command in the terminal might give some hints