[18:18] <yofel> hype__: well, do you see *anything*
[18:18] <hype__> i actually already burned a daily Lucid image, just wondering if there were some specific know issues aobut broken boot
[18:18] <hype__> yep
[18:18] <hype__> i get the blue and grey horrrible thing (plymout?)
[18:18] <Andy80> yofel, sebsebseb: every 6 months Ubuntu community organizes a meeting to gather ideas for the next release of Ubuntu... why people don't talk about these kind of "problems" too?
[18:18] <hype__> plymouth*
[18:19] <yofel> Andy80: dunno if we had that on UDS-L, I already switched to kde back then, would be a good idea to bring up on UDS-M though
[18:20] <Andy80> yofel: uhm... what is the difference between UDS-L and UDS-M ?
[18:20] <yofel> Andy80: uds-lucid and uds-m... (wel lucid+1)
[18:20] <yofel> *well
[18:21] <red> Volkodav: done numerous boots already
[18:21] <red> I think it might be theme dependant thing?
[18:21] <Andy80> yofel: well... I usually try to apply for sponsorship but never had luck :D I would be happy to offer my help to the UI team
[18:21] <hifi> booting lucid still hangs on my thinkpad
[18:21] <red> hype__: i couldnt boot with this days build either
[18:22] <red> burned an iso
[18:22] <red> upgraded install from 9.10 works but few bugs due upgrading which I think I managed to kill
[18:22] <hifi> every second boot works
[18:22] <yofel> hype__: should be plymouth I think, either try to get grub up and select the rescue option, or chroot from a live disk and remove plymouth
[18:22] <yofel> hifi: every second? o.O
[18:22] <hifi> when it runs fsck it works fine
[18:23] <hifi> if I touch /forcefsck every reboot it boots
[18:23] <yofel> hifi: could be a race condition in the upstart scripts (maybe something tries to start too early)
[18:23] <hifi> but if the disk is clean when I boot it and fsck is not ran it will hang at the plymouth(?) screen
[18:23] <hifi> the white/blue progress bar advances to full white and then stays there
[18:24] <hifi> booting nospash doesn't really give more info
[18:24] <hifi> it just hangs with a blinking cursor after fsck and friends
[18:24] <hype__> yofel, can i ask a favor about chroot? just a question actually (the document i have is in french, but can you just take a llok at the commands?)
[18:24] <hifi> also still the login screen does not appear and instead I see my desktop but hitting enter will open the login screen
[18:25] <yofel> hifi: oh, that sounds familiar (I think I had the same a while ago, It works now after I purged plymouth)
[18:25] <yofel> (the not booting I mean)
[18:25] <hifi> login screen bug?
[18:25] <hype__> ( http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/chroot )
[18:25] <hype__> ;)
[18:25] <hype__> that's me :)
[18:25] <boondoklife> hifi: I had that issue too but it was an upgrade from 9.10, did a fresh install and after all the updates it boots fine now.
[18:26] <yofel> hifi: the 'enter gets you to login screen' is a known issue
[18:26] <hype__> yofel, after step 4 , i'm actully in a root shell into my "real" install, right?
[18:26] <yofel> hype__: mom
[18:26] <hype__> ?
[18:26] <hifi> boondoklife: I did an upgrade too
[18:26] <yofel> hype__: "give me a moment" ;)
[18:26] <hifi> so all my problems would go away if I just reinstall? :p
[18:27] <yofel> hype__: yes, should be fine
[18:27] <boondoklife> hifi: Well it did for me but your results may very
[18:27] <hifi> though it'd be nice to know a solution without reinstall
[18:27] <hifi> also my battery icon in the task area keeps disappearing
[18:28] <hype__> yofel, ;) didnt know that one :)
[18:29] <yofel> hype__: sry, I'm used to using aliases when it's busy in here :P
[18:29] <hype__> yofel, , seems like i'm in achroot :)
[18:29] <h00k> I might start liking the controls on the left. I don't know if this is good or bad.
[18:30] <yofel> hype__: there you could try 'sudo aptitude purge plymouth' it should be fine unless you use cryptsetup or nouveau
[18:30] <hype__> no plymouth updates in the list :'(
[18:30] <hype__> yep, i'm making updates, then i'll remove plymouth ;)
[18:30] <hype__> 40Mo , 40 seconds :)
[18:31] <hype__> i see a gdm update...maybe had i a broken gdm? :D
[18:33] <hype__> yofel, plytmouth purged, rebooting, hopefully back to give hug :)
[18:34] <hype__> thanks for help yofel :>
[18:36] <sinurge> anyone ele thinking sw center is very slow
[18:36] <stone1343> hi, is there a known problem with USB Creator? I can't create any of today's daily builds, Ubuntu, Kubuntu or Xubuntu anyway.
[18:37] <hype> yofel :)
[18:37] <hype> i'm getting some seird error messages at boot tho :/
[18:37] <hype> i think i'll make a manual fsck to be sure
[18:37] <hype> thanks anyway :)
[18:41] <yofel> hype: sry, was away for a moment, but yes, without plymouth you'll get the usual boot messages as the splash is gone now
[18:41] <sinurge> very wierd when i first boot and i goes past the boot selection f the ubuntu kernal it gives me  slight color change post the fsck like a green tinge . anyone else got that
[18:42] <hype> okok :)
[18:43] <ZykoticK9> sinurge, same here
[18:44] <zonyl> Hi Alll. Trying to play anything from mplayer console causes it to get overrun with junk key input: No bind found for key 'E'. .  Im obviously not pressing the keyboard and the keys coming in are seemingly random and at a rate of about 4 / sec.  Anyone know whats causing this?
[18:45] <guntbert> aptitude update core dumped on me today - any similar experiences?
[18:46] <JFo> guntbert, I use apt-get so no issue like that today
[18:46] <yofel> guntbert: no
[18:46] <guntbert> JFo: yes, apt-get went through without issues
[18:47] <yofel> guntbert: does it segfault every time?
[18:47] <JFo> guntbert, the word I have been hearing is not to use aptitude
[18:47] <JFo> as it has odd differences from apt
[18:47] <guntbert> yofel: I tried twice and every time it did
[18:47] <yofel> odd
[18:47] <sinurge> hmm wierd i must say but am not able to figure what actually occurs
[18:48] <yofel> JFo: why that? It sure is different from apt-get but if anything it works better here (and I like the interactive interface)
[18:48] <guntbert> yofel: apport did pick up the crash but wasn't able to report the bug
[18:48] <JFo> yofel, it is just what I have heard from the devs
[18:48] <JFo> I've never used aptitude myself
[18:49] <guntbert> JFo: no, I use aptitude on all my machines
[18:49] <JFo> guntbert, not today :P
[18:49] <JFo> j/k
[18:50] <sinurge> @guntbert will try to re-create what were you trying to do there
[18:50] <JFo> I just remember a general outcry at the platform sprint about using aptitude. I'm not sure what prompted the conversation.
[18:51] <guntbert> sinurge: my setup: lucid daily, kept up to date till yesterday in a vbox VM
[18:52] <sinurge> jfo: even i havnt heard anything like that of aptitude and apt
[18:52] <mortal_> does the partitioning tool work ok on alpha3 installer?
[18:53] <mortal_> if I do manual partitioning
[18:53] <guntbert> JFo: neither have I
[18:53] <ZykoticK9> guntbert, what aptitude command are you running?  I'm gonna try in my VBox Lucid install.
[18:53] <cousin_mario> hello
[18:53] <cousin_mario> what is the new default theme called?
[18:53] <guntbert> ZykoticK9: sudo aptitude update :-)
[18:54] <sinurge> just tried going to aptitude just moving in some menus and then quitting no issue, gunbert: as i said were you trying something
[18:55] <ZykoticK9> guntbert, well that's straight forward :)  update worked fine.
[18:55] <guntbert> sinurge: no - as I just said - but of course it may be a weird coincidence - if it keeps doing it I'll report a bug
[18:56] <guntbert> ZykoticK9: thx for testing - aptitude safe-upgrade seems to run fine after apt-get update
[18:56] <sinurge> used a clean install but with a upgrade/update everyday so i might say its upto date
[18:56] <sinurge> yeah  i think you should do that
[18:56] <ZykoticK9> guntbert, it's currently doing the upgrade, so far so good
[18:57] <guntbert> ZykoticK9: here too :-) I guess I'll give it a try afterwards --- ooops - dinner time - bbl
[18:59] <sinurge> hey just noticed, if you have upgraded today you would have got the ambience and radiance themes....shift to ambience and then to radiance...the bottom panel windows still use the purple tool tips of ambience.
[18:59] <cousin_mario> it's called ambience then?
[19:05] <exigraff> regarding the max/min/close buttons in Ambiance/Radiance, what's the plan for when the maximize button is absent? the rounded bevel effect sort of breaks when the cap is missing.
[19:08] <sinurge> sleep calling, goodnight
[19:10] <Andy80> yofel: http://blog.daviey.com/?p=276 :D
[19:11] <yofel> Andy80: heh ^^
[19:11] <Daviey> :o
[19:18] <holzmodem> hi, cant see installed plugins in eclipse. any idea?
[19:25] <red> any idea how I could make xbmc repositories work under lucid lynx? get errors after adding them and whole apt-get seizes to work until I remove them
[19:25] <red> sudo apt-get build-dep xbmc
[19:28] <mortal_> the installer could have some intelligence and load some continuous image to ram and work on that
[19:28] <mortal_> instead of doing random reads on the installation cd
[19:34] <hifi> glx on s3 savage cause a "cmdbuf ioctl returned -12", kernel prints a backtrace
[19:34] <mortal_> eh, the installer does not work with manual partitioning, wtf
[19:40] <Technoviking> does anyone else get a loud noise for a second or two when rebooting/shutting down?
[19:41] <mortal_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/524135
[19:41] <mortal_> this is it
[19:45] <mortal_> now tell me, how to fix the boot weirdness on console
[19:45] <mortal_> the [SM] waiting thing
[19:49] <duffydack> Anyone using lucid yet as their main system ? just curious
[19:50] <yofel> duffydack: me, but with daily system backups
[19:50] <Technoviking> duffydack: yes
[19:50] <duffydack> Also, I walked past a pc world today and saw a poster for an advert for a macbook, and the pic of the desktop was VERY similar to the new ubuntu theme.. mainly the purpley wallpaper and panel icons.
[19:52] <ZykoticK9> duffydack, that was my impression as well
[19:52] <duffydack> ZykoticK9, anyone cared to ask anyone 'in' ubuntu why ?
[19:52] <duffydack> to make people think its a free mac os?
[19:52] <duffydack> lol
[19:53] <ZykoticK9> duffydack, at the background + switching buttons to left corner - very mac-esque
[19:53] <yofel> duffydack: iirc you should ask the ayatana folks that, but maybe the desktop folks in #ubuntu-desktop can help you too
[19:54] <guntbert> ZykoticK9: just to report back -  after  using apt-get to update/upgrade aptitude work fine again - so it seems to have been a single weirdness :)
[19:54] <duffydack> not complaining, tho its not my thing, I prefer the Hanso theme over what WAS Dust...
[19:54] <duffydack> they changed dust a little, and it doesnt look right for me now.
[19:54] <ZykoticK9> guntbert, my update/upgrade worked fine with aptitude...  which i never use actually
[19:55] <guntbert> ZykoticK9: so we can forget that - I suppose - thx for your thoughts and time
[19:56] <mortal_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/528171 is this fixed?
[19:56] <ZykoticK9> guntbert, my pleasure man
[19:56] <yofel> mortal_: if the bug says it's not, the I doubt it, you could ask in #ubuntu-installer
[19:57] <yofel> *then
[19:57] <duffydack> are the default lucid theme and the community themes (Hanso included) available for 9.10?
[20:22] <tasslehoff_> is updating from karmic to lucid using apt an operation likely to succeed atm? not doomed to fail if I try?
[20:24] <mortal_> tasslehoff_: doomed
[20:24] <mortal_> tasslehoff_: you get a boot problem
[20:24] <mortal_> by doing that
[20:24] <mortal_> almost a certainty
[20:25] <tasslehoff_> mortal_: ah, thanks for the warning.
[20:26] <tasslehoff_> I need to go from 32 bit karmic to 64 bit lucid anyway, so I'll wait until I get a cd to burn it on :)
[20:26] <bcurtiswx_> devicekit-power.. i couldn't see anything in the changelogs.. is that not supposed to be getting removed?
[20:26] <duffydack> tasslehoff, I tried it in a vm lastnight, it worked
[20:27] <duffydack> tasslehoff, well, with do-release-upgrade -d anyway
[20:28] <red> for me updating from karmic worked
[20:28] <red> few issues which i could work around in the end
[20:29] <red> i used -d aswell
[20:30] <bcurtiswx_> is devicekit-power supposed to be removed in lucid.. idk where to find the devicekit lucid changelogs
[20:31] <red> sup with the volume icon btw?
[20:31] <red> is it a placeholder?
[20:32] <yofel> bcurtiswx_: upower and libdevkit-power-gobjectl1 conflict with devicekit-power now
[20:33] <yofel> bcurtiswx_: and the upower changelog says devicekit-power should be removed
[20:33] <bcurtiswx_> yofel, but packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/devicekit-power doesnt exist, making me think it's supposed to be removed
[20:33] <bcurtiswx_> yofel: ah ha, ok thx
[20:33] <bcurtiswx_> yofel: where can I get the changelog not on the internet
[20:33] <bcurtiswx_> yofel: is there a apt-cache option?
[20:34] <yofel> bcurtiswx_: not really, aptitude changelog doesn't work yet, but if you have the new upower installed then read '/usr/share/doc/upower/changelog.Debian.gz'
[20:35] <bcurtiswx_> ty
[20:36] <TimH1> Having trouble with Gwibber on Lucid. Messages popping up in the message notification area but cant open the column app. Any ideas?
[20:37] <ubuntujenkins> hello again TimH1 how have you tried opening it?
[20:44] <eeexception> Hi, I have a question about device kit. Using hal we had to write some rules files to do some operations as automount or start some services. How to write these rules for device kit?
[20:45] <TimH1> Having trouble with Gwibber. Here's a link showing what happens when I open from terminal. Can anyone help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/389185/
[21:05] <TimH1> Having trouble with Gwibber. Here's a link showing what happens when I open from terminal. Can anyone help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/389185/
[21:06] <jst> Does anyone know what changes are in Xubuntu 10.04?
[21:10] <eeexception> I have a question about device kit. Using hal we had to write some rules files to do some operations as automount or start some services. How to write these rules for device kit?
[21:21] <milos_> can't upgrade, without removal of 'devicekit-power'. Is this a bad idea? Should I wait? I am so tempted to install new themes?
[21:38] <yofel> milos_: that's fine, it's supposed to be removed
[21:38]  * BUGabundo rant mode on
[21:39] <BUGabundo> WT H**** put my wind icons in the left?????? F****
[21:39]  * BUGabundo rant mode off
[21:39] <BUGabundo> evening
[21:39] <yofel> BUGabundo: lol, you're the first to be *that* angry :D
[21:39] <BUGabundo> damn now I need a new theme :(
[21:39] <ZykoticK9> BUGabundo, or just run // gconftool-2 --set "/apps/metacity/general/button_layout" --type string ":maximize,minimize,close" //
[21:40] <DanaG> er
[21:40] <vanishing> elegant brit dim
[21:40] <vanishing> ^^^^^^
[21:40] <DanaG> no, that's still wrong.
[21:40] <vanishing> good theme
[21:40] <BUGabundo> and since when is pink the new black?
[21:40] <DanaG> it should be minimize,maximize,close.
[21:40] <BUGabundo> my gnome-terminal is PINK :(
[21:40] <charlie-tca> Isn't that already the new theme?
[21:40] <BUGabundo> but *I already* had a theme
[21:40] <charlie-tca> yup
[21:40] <BUGabundo> I don't want it to change!
[21:40] <vanishing> anyone having gnome-power packages held back?
[21:41] <BUGabundo> vanishing: maybe
[21:41] <vanishing> BUGabundo: oh.
[21:41] <BUGabundo> one of them was removed earlier for me
[21:41] <ZykoticK9> BUGabundo, that command i sent just moves the buttons to the right side
[21:41] <BUGabundo> ZykoticK9: so that works?
[21:41] <vanishing> BUGabundo: ima wait..
[21:41] <BUGabundo> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[21:41] <vanishing> ZykoticK9: to move the buttons arround, i use ubuntu tweak..lol
[21:41] <Crashbit> BUGabundo: change your profile preferences
[21:41] <BUGabundo> piece of mind returns!
[21:42] <BUGabundo> where where?
[21:42] <komputes> anyone having the issue "can't install bootloader" in usb-creator in Lucid, please mark this bug as affecting you: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/529366
[21:42] <vanishing> its already high, triaged...
[21:43] <yofel> vanishing: people affected adds to that
[21:43] <Crashbit> mm
[21:43] <BUGabundo> humm
[21:44] <BUGabundo> my system is lagging
[21:44] <Crashbit> BUGabundo: change this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/360155/test/Captura-Edici%C3%B3%20del%20perfil%20%C2%ABAmbiance%C2%BB.png
[21:44] <BUGabundo> :(
[21:44] <BUGabundo> gtk bug again?
[21:45] <BUGabundo> aaahhh much better
[21:45] <Crashbit> :)
[21:45] <BUGabundo> since when do we change existing settings on upgrades????
[21:46] <yofel> BUGabundo: I think we already had cases like this... and it's not like we alpha testers get to complain
[21:47] <BUGabundo> change icons is ok
[21:47] <BUGabundo> change COLORS or THEMES, is a big no no
[21:47] <BUGabundo> my THEME is my HOUSE
[21:47] <yofel> well, I agree there
[21:50] <TLF> how can I change the position of close, maximize and minimize buttons?
[21:51] <yofel> TLF: 'gconftool-2 --set "/apps/metacity/general/button_layout" --type string ":minimize,maximize,close' should work
[21:51] <BUGabundo> eheh
[21:52] <BUGabundo> let make the bot say it automaticly
[21:52] <yofel> heh
[21:52] <ZykoticK9> yofel, you've just out the closing " in your post
[21:52] <TLF> lol
[21:53] <TLF> yeah, i noted that, ZykoticK9
[21:53] <ZykoticK9> s/just/cut
[21:53] <yofel> ZykoticK9: uuups...
[21:53] <TLF> that is to make them to their regular position
[21:53] <TLF> but what about putting them back?
[21:53] <ZykoticK9> TLF just move the : to the end and it will be back on the left
[21:53] <BUGabundo> crimsun: add to /topic $ gconftool-2 --set "/apps/metacity/general/button_layout" --type string ":maximize,minimize,close"  eheh
[21:53] <TLF> oh
[21:54] <TLF> and anyways
[21:54] <BUGabundo> WM are "broken" eheh
[21:54] <TLF> this new position is a bug or is a featureç?
[21:54] <BUGabundo> I bet feature
[21:54] <ZykoticK9> TLF, feature
[21:54] <BUGabundo> copying mac ^^ new design team,
[21:54] <TLF> :(
[21:54] <TLF> I don't like that
[21:54] <BUGabundo> me neither
[21:54] <yofel> someone posted this earlier: http://blog.daviey.com/blogroll/anything-but-the-buttons.html
[21:55] <TLF> but anyways it wouldn't be a problem if some other apps (like chromium) got that changed, too
[21:55] <ZykoticK9> yofel, that's where i got the info for the gconftool-2 line i gave
[21:55] <yofel> ZykoticK9: ah, you're right
[21:56] <Daviey> yofel: i'm not a someone :)
[21:56] <BUGabundo> ehehe
[21:56] <BUGabundo> "he" is here
[21:56] <yofel> Daviey: sry, I forgot who it was >.>
[21:58] <Daviey> yofel: the clue is in the url :)
[21:58] <yofel> Daviey: noticed that too just now -.-
[21:58] <Daviey> heh
[22:01] <BUGabundo> oops
[22:01] <BUGabundo>  $ gconftool-2 --set "/apps/metacity/general/button_layout" --type string ":minimize,maximize,close"
[22:01] <BUGabundo> if not, maximize is left to minimize
[22:01] <TLF> http://i50.tinypic.com/1zyfwhk.jpg
[22:02] <TLF> yep, you're free to insult me :)
[22:04] <duffydack> TLF, no need.. you will live the knowledge you made that for the rest of your life.
[22:04] <TLF> :)
[22:05] <TLF> i think it's worth for 4chan or sth
[22:10] <red> im happy that after the upgrade my buttons are still on the right
[22:10] <red> i cant stand the mac style
[22:11] <sebsebseb> red: well your updates didn't go properly then, by default they are on the left now
[22:13] <sebsebseb> red: Will it be changed to the right before the final, with the minimize, maxime, close, button order?  Hopefuly
[22:14] <red> i hope so
[22:14] <BUGabundo> WTF #2
[22:14] <red> im guessing they are still on the right due me customizing my theme heavily
[22:14] <TLF> http://i50.tinypic.com/1zyfwhk.jpg
[22:14] <BUGabundo> since when does chromium private browser saves passwords??
[22:14] <sebsebseb> red: Enough people complain about that, on  Launchpad,  and I guess it may happen.  Plus we need actsual community members doing it on Launchpad such as BUGabundo
[22:14] <TLF> where I can complain?
[22:15] <BUGabundo> LP
[22:15] <red> sebsebseb: i think it's silly that a few graph designers just decided to go macstyle without making it optional
[22:15] <BUGabundo> FILE A BUG
[22:15] <BUGabundo> ill +1 it
[22:15] <red> GUI is a touchy thing :)
[22:15] <sebsebseb> TLF: not sure, but I guess some where on LP
[22:15] <sebsebseb> TLF: I meant not sure where on LP]
[22:15] <red> BUGabundo: incognito mode in chromium saves passwords?
[22:15] <BUGabundo> just did for me
[22:16] <red> you sure it ain't just for the session?
[22:16] <red> otherwise a gf might find your pron logins!
[22:17] <sebsebseb> BUGabundo: really enough people complaining in here,  with the devs reading it when it happens or the logs, should be enough, but I guess it doesn't work that way.
[22:17] <red> it's just silly
[22:18] <red> you can tweak how wobbly your windows are, but not where the minimze and maximize buttons are located :)
[22:18] <BUGabundo> just file a darn bug
[22:18] <BUGabundo> so I can setup a filter and move all comments to trash
[22:18] <BUGabundo> like I did with all the previous design team bugs we filed
[22:18] <BUGabundo> and never changed *anything*
[22:19] <charlie-tca> yup
[22:19] <BUGabundo> remember update-manager?
[22:19] <charlie-tca> I can even second them, just to see it turned invalid
[22:19] <BUGabundo> or losing a way to shudown/reboot with mouse?
[22:19] <BUGabundo> what was the other one?
[22:19] <BUGabundo> I forget
[22:19] <charlie-tca> We are just the users, we don't know what anyone wants, as I understand it
[22:20] <charlie-tca> The indicators?
[22:20] <red> losing a way to shutdown/reboot with mouse?
[22:20] <BUGabundo> we *should* file bugs
[22:20] <red> it's still there
[22:20] <BUGabundo> even if they are marked invalid
[22:20] <BUGabundo> at least shows we are *here* working for them
[22:20] <BUGabundo> red: how?
[22:20] <BUGabundo> CAD ?
[22:20] <BUGabundo> not in mine
[22:20] <BUGabundo> no menu either
[22:21] <red> applet named
[22:21] <BUGabundo> can you reach that with keyb??
[22:21] <red> Indicator Applet Session
[22:21] <BUGabundo> can you reach that with keyb??
[22:21] <red> no?
[22:21] <red> you said with mouse
[22:21] <red> can't you still sudo reboot etc?
[22:22] <BUGabundo> with*out*
[22:22] <sebsebseb> charlie-tca: we may just be the users, but we know, what we don't want, when they start to provide that
[22:22] <red> < BUGabundo> or losing a way to shudown/reboot with mouse?
[22:22] <red> with mouse you said :)
[22:22] <charlie-tca> Not according to the design people, we don't
[22:22] <BUGabundo> ytpo
[22:23] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: +1
[22:23] <red> hehe
[22:23] <yofel> charlie-tca: indeed :/
[22:24] <histo> Now that we don't ahve /etc/init.d/alsa-utils how do we restart sound?
[22:24] <mc44> It's nice how your opinion is obviously the same as "the users"
[22:24] <sebsebseb> charlie-tca: yeah I guess, but there are also other distros that do Gnome better by default, for a lot of us :D
[22:25] <charlie-tca> That would be okay, but I use Xubuntu! and still have to put up with the design changes from ubuntu, too.
[22:25] <sebsebseb> charlie-tca: oh?
[22:25] <sebsebseb> charlie-tca: such as?
[22:26] <joaopinto> as I see it, design is no longer a community asset on Ubuntu
[22:26] <BUGabundo> histo: it autospawns
[22:26] <histo> I tried sudo /etc/init.d/pusleaudio restart but that didn't restart sound.
[22:26] <histo> BUGabundo: what autospawns?
[22:26] <BUGabundo> hey joaopinto
[22:26] <joaopinto> hi BUGabundo
[22:26] <charlie-tca> All the changes Ubuntu makes are impossible for Xubuntu to remove. When Hal was removed, we had to jury-rigg gdm to use it
[22:26] <mc44> complaining about design is a community asset!
[22:26] <sebsebseb> joaopinto: Human has been removed from Lucid :(  at least Clearlooks is still there :)
[22:26] <histo> BUGabundo: my sound is buggered up right now i'd like to reload it, without restarting
[22:26] <charlie-tca> Indicator applet is stuck in place, we work around/through it
[22:26] <yofel> histo: pulseaudio, it's not a system service by default any more, just kill it and it should respawn
[22:27] <danyR> hi there guys. a doubt: is there any way to reach Me Menu trough keyboard?
[22:27] <charlie-tca> Except we don't actually have gconf editor to use in XUbuntu, it doesn't work
[22:27] <charlie-tca> I now get to see the ubuntu splash screen in Xubuntu
[22:28] <DanaG> deprecating GDM also breaks backlight control.
[22:28] <sebsebseb> charlie-tca: the boot up screen you mean?  I am still not seeing a new screen,  I am just seeing the default plymouth screen or whatever that is the blue one.
[22:28] <sebsebseb> DanaG: deprecating GDM?  you mean  the old one?  what's backlight control?
[22:28] <DanaG> er
[22:28] <charlie-tca> what blue one? oh, yeah, plymouth is incompatible with my NVIdia card
[22:28] <DanaG> deprecating HAL.
[22:28] <DanaG> I mean.
[22:29] <sebsebseb> charlie-tca: blue bar type thing
[22:29] <histo> yofel: I killed it but it killed my volume control looks like the volume is all the way down but its not
[22:29] <sebsebseb> charlie-tca: however I thought it was meant to be something else
[22:29] <histo> I'll just restart
[22:31] <charlie-tca> Yeah, the boot up screen I don't get to see because my monitor shuts off
[22:31] <charlie-tca> It is meant to be something besides the blue bar, but it is not compatible with making things work in Xubuntu
[22:32] <charlie-tca> But I do test the new image everyday, and some days I get the ubuntu(logo) in the middle of the screen
[22:32] <histo> anyone elses terminal not saving settings.
[22:33] <histo> gnome-terminal keeps defaulting witht he ambient option on now.
[22:33] <histo> no matter how many times I change it.
[22:33] <histo> ahh nvm. new profile to open was set to ambient after updates
[22:34] <sebsebseb> charlie-tca: in my vm I am not getting the  ubuntu logo one
[22:34] <sebsebseb> charlie-tca: I did a vm of alpha 3 yesterday got all the updates, and nope not there, I did today's daily build and nope not there
[22:34] <charlie-tca> What do you get? You don't get ubuntu in the middle of the screen?
[22:35] <sebsebseb> charlie-tca: in vm
[22:35] <sebsebseb> charlie-tca: yep I just get the blue bar thingey
[22:35] <charlie-tca> maybe is is a hardware thing.
[22:35] <DanaG> For me, Plymouth actively refuses to display a splash screen.
[22:35] <charlie-tca> I used to get the blue bar
[22:35] <DanaG> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22239
[22:35] <DanaG> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=460565
[22:36] <sebsebseb> charlie-tca: it's quite ashame for me, since that's the thing I want to test the most, when it comes to this new theme stuff,  as for the two new themes I don't like them, and am not that keen on the prupley pink GDM and default background either
[22:36] <sebsebseb> charlie-tca: when it comes to the new theme stuff above, uh no, when it comes to Lucid
[22:37] <charlie-tca> heh
[22:37] <DanaG> hmm, I still have the OLD gdm background.
[22:38] <sebsebseb> charlie-tca: right now I am using another distro, with great default themes :)
[22:38] <charlie-tca> I guess I keep hoping here. Maybe if we file enough bugs...
[22:38] <BUGabundo> so 1h long and NO ONE file the left icon bug?
[22:39] <BUGabundo> will I have to do it and collect extra karma?
[22:40] <defsdoor> any known issues with apt segfaulting atm in lucid ?
[22:40] <jaebird> the latest update of lucid has the new theme and background. now i have two vertical white borders on the left and right of the desktop background
[22:41]  * charlie-tca thinks BUGabundo don't need karma.
[22:42] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: I miss having 27k points of karma :((
[22:42] <BUGabundo> 6k is just not enouth
[22:42] <jaebird> they look like focus lines
[22:42] <BUGabundo> defsdoor: ME ME ME for two weeks
[22:42] <BUGabundo> I've filed it last week
[22:42] <charlie-tca> Yeay, I know. I have to work to keep mine above 2k now
[22:42] <BUGabundo> what??
[22:43] <BUGabundo> you only have 2k??
[22:43] <BUGabundo> with all the packages you handled?
[22:43] <charlie-tca> I got about 5k now
[22:43] <charlie-tca> I lost it during karmic
[22:44] <defsdoor> I'm getting SIGSEGV in 0x00007ffff7b7ec3c in pkgPolicy::GetCandidateVer(pkgCache::PkgIterator) () from /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.10-6.so.4.8
[22:45] <BUGabundo> yep
[22:45] <defsdoor> BUGabundo, any workaround ?
[22:46] <BUGabundo> not that I know of
[22:49] <bjsnider> so you're all using the light theme now?
[22:51] <BUGabundo> NOW
[22:51] <defsdoor> BUGabundo, apt_<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu2_amd64.deb  seems to work o k
[22:51] <DanaG> nope, I'm using Homosapien. =þ
[22:51] <BUGabundo> *NO
[22:51] <bjsnider> but the light theme
[22:51] <bjsnider> it's all about the light theme
[22:52] <bjsnider> is the ubuntu font in there yet?
[22:53] <charlie-tca> The letters ain't done yet
[22:53] <MindVirus> I can't kill maximus.
[22:53] <MindVirus> Please help.
[22:53] <MindVirus> I set my session not to remember any running applications.
[22:53] <MindVirus> I don't have any startup applications for maximus.
[22:54] <MindVirus> Every time I kill it though it starts up again.
[22:54] <bjsnider> it's probably necessary then
[22:54] <MindVirus> It is certainly not necessary.
[22:56] <dios_mio> lucid out?
[22:56] <MindVirus> dios_mio: An alpha version.
[22:56] <MindVirus> Please help me kill maximus.
[22:57] <MindVirus> It is constantly restared.
[22:57] <MindVirus> *restarted.
[22:57] <BUGabundo> HAZ GOTE 360º W00T
[22:57] <BUGabundo> oops
[22:57] <BUGabundo> wrong #
[23:02] <yofel> MindVirus: remove it? (i mean remove the package)
[23:02] <MindVirus> yofel: No.
[23:02] <MindVirus> I have UNE.
[23:02] <MindVirus> For which I need to keep it.
[23:02] <yofel> ah
[23:04] <MindVirus> yofel: Any advice?
[23:04] <yofel> nope, when I tried une once the only way I found to  disable it was to remove the package
[23:08] <MindVirus> Can anyone help, please?
[23:09] <Sai--> MindVirus, what s your problem?
[23:09] <MindVirus> Sai--: I am trying to kill maximus.
[23:09] <MindVirus> But some daemon respawns it over and over.
[23:10] <waltercool> I have a bug: http://pastebin.com/JL2hRhdb
[23:10] <Sai--> OMG ? kill maximus
[23:10] <waltercool> is ehci_hcd related =/
[23:10] <MindVirus> Sai--: Pardon?
[23:13] <MindVirus> Could anyone help me kill maximus, please?
[23:24] <cousteau> why does UNE Lucid have brasero on it if netbooks usually don't have any CD unit?
[23:30] <BUGabundo> http://p.bugabundo.net/geek-me-nooooo ahah
[23:30] <MindVirus> Whenever I kill maximus, some daemon restarts it. Can someone help me find the root of this?
[23:38] <mustelo> I'm having pretty consistent crashes when using ibus to input chinese, are these known issues?
[23:39] <ulle> i just installed lucid alpha 3 on my samsung laptop and from the kernel log it said it was overheating i tried powertop and also found out that the on demand governor needed 3 more watts than when setting the cpu-freg-scaler to performance
[23:39] <ulle> good things are it finally resumes now it is overheating again
[23:41] <ulle> it s overheating again i have to go back to karmic before something melts in here
[23:41] <Cyberkilla> Speaking of overheating... I pulled my vacuum cleaner out of the socket today and the plug & socket was too hot to touch! The house is fused and the plug is fused! How is it hot!? Later, I found scorch marks on the live prong of the plug. It must be arcing inside the socket:-O
[23:42] <Cyberkilla> lol
[23:43] <Cyberkilla> Sorry, I'm bored ;-)
[23:46] <histo> Yeah sound is borked right now
[23:46] <histo> Great
[23:46] <MindVirus> Could anyone please help?
[23:46] <MindVirus> It would be great.
[23:47] <histo> MindVirus: what is maximus?
[23:47] <histo> MindVirus: you'd have to find out what daemon is starting it and stop it.
[23:47] <MindVirus> histo: You'd think, huh?
[23:48] <histo> MindVirus: youc an watch whats going on with top or htop and see what loads it after you kill it.
[23:48] <MindVirus> histo: Oh, yeah?
[23:48] <MindVirus> Where would that information be?
[23:48] <MindVirus> histo: maximus is a program that maximizes all maximizable windows. It's for netbooks.
[23:48] <MindVirus> Saves screen real estate.
[23:49] <histo> MindVirus: I can't believe it has a daemon though. Are you sure you're killing it? Like its getting new pids?
[23:50] <MindVirus> histo: Yes.
[23:50] <cousteau> maximus is the thing on UNR that maximizes all windows, maybe it's somewhere else on the desktop environment
[23:53] <MindVirus> Any advice?
[23:53] <MindVirus> You know, this is really fucked up.
[23:53] <MindVirus> I don't feel like this should be difficult.
[23:53] <MindVirus> This really should not be hard.
[23:54] <MindVirus> I should not have to ask for 3 days in a row how to close a damn process.
[23:54] <histo> !patience | MindVirus
[23:54] <MindVirus> histo: I was patient for the first two days.
[23:54] <histo> MindVirus: open up a terminal
[23:54] <MindVirus> histo: Done.
[23:54] <histo> MindVirus: and run top
[23:54] <MindVirus> Done.
[23:54] <histo> MindVirus: then ctrl+sht+T to get a new tab and sudo killall maximus
[23:55] <histo> MindVirus: switch back to top with alt+1 and see what is going on
[23:55] <MindVirus> histo: Do you want me to use -s9?
[23:55] <histo> MindVirus: or you can use htop and kill the process from right inside.
[23:55] <MindVirus> You can kill the process from within top as well -- just press k and type in the PID.
[23:56] <histo> MindVirus: you can use k and type the pid yeahj
[23:56] <histo> MindVirus: use 9 make sure it dies
[23:56] <histo> If its respawning it should get a different pid
[23:56] <MindVirus> histo: I told you it gets a different PID.
[23:57] <histo> See if anything else pops up that spawns it.
[23:57] <histo> top updates constantly
[23:57] <MindVirus> histo: I don't know what that means.
[23:57] <histo> so somethign else should jump up with cpu activity to respawn maximus
[23:58] <histo> Ahh nevermind its set to respawn as long as you're in the current session
[23:58] <histo> can you get to the session panel?
[23:59] <MindVirus> histo: What session panel?
[23:59] <histo> MindVirus: are you in kde or gnome?
[23:59] <MindVirus> histo: GNOME.
[23:59] <MindVirus> histo: There's no more session panel.
[23:59] <MindVirus> histo: There's a Startup Applications panel.
[23:59] <histo> yeah they moved it. Hold up let me find a way to do this


[00:10] <Kawaiola> Hey guys I'm installing 14.02 and the Grub loader keeps failing it will let me configure a lilo boot loader but I'm not entirely sure if I should any wisdom?
[00:12] <Patrickdk> what is 14.02?
[00:12] <Patrickdk> and what is lilo?
[00:12] <Patrickdk> wasn't that replaced by grub, a decade before ubuntu was even around?
[00:14] <Kawaiola> Patrickdk: Unbuntun server 14.02 and grub faailed it gives me the option to try and use the lilo loader unless there is a way to fix the grub boot loader I am installing from a flash drive
[01:53] <qman__> autojack: the version I'm seeing is 1:9.8.1.dfsg.P1-4ubuntu0.8
[01:53] <qman__> as in, you're missing the 1: in front
[05:47] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:09] <BlackDex> Hello there, i have a system with ipv6 and for some reason it resolves hosts which do not have IPv6 to my local v6 address
[08:42] <bluefrog> BlackDex, you mean that ping prestashop.com gives you a ping on your localhost instead of "network unreachable"?
[08:43] <bluefrog> BlackDex, I mean ping6 not giving you "unknown host"?
[08:43] <bluefrog> well both in fact as prestashop.com is IPv4 only
[08:45] <BlackDex> well if i do ping6 i do not get a network unreachable
[08:45] <BlackDex> i just get an IP address of an other server in my network for some reason
[08:51] <BlackDex> ping does work to the correct ip
[09:08] <bluefrog> BlackDex, oh so you have 2 interfaces, one IPv4 and one IPv6. and your DNS server is internal then of course
[09:09] <bluefrog> BlackDex, so i guess you have to look in that direction for your IPv6 problem
[09:09] <BlackDex> bluefrog: i have one interface eth0 with both ipv4 an v6 on it
[09:09] <BlackDex> and i use the DNS of google
[09:10] <bluefrog> your network is private?
[09:11] <caribou> got a launchpad question that should be trivial to many people here :
[09:11] <BlackDex> i got a /64
[09:11] <BlackDex> my own subnet
[09:11] <caribou> once a Merge Proposal has been approved, how does the proposed branch get merged in the target branch ?
[09:12] <caribou> does launchpad do it automagically or is it done on the CLI ?
[09:12] <bluefrog> BlackDex, do you have the same problem from another puter with a similar ipv4 ipv6 config?
[09:12] <BlackDex> jupp
[09:13] <bluefrog> BlackDex, am no specialist in that but i would say you have a borked DNS zone at your registrar
[09:14] <BlackDex> hmm
[09:14] <BlackDex> thx for the tips :)
[09:14] <bluefrog> or gateway
[09:15] <bluefrog> BlackDex, one or 2 guys helped me yesterday's night on IPv6, TJ_ and maswan
[09:18] <sanderj_> Have anyone got this message?: df: cannot read table of mounted file systems
[09:18] <sanderj_> this one helps: grep -v rootfs /proc/mounts > /etc/mtab .. but it keeps popping up the problem at reboot.
[09:46] <see1> hello
[09:46] <see1> i update my server today and get problems with php5-fmp
[09:46] <see1> nginx says bad gatway
[09:47] <see1> ubuntu/ precise
[09:48] <see1> this is to update libssl-dev libssl-doc libssl1.0.0 openssl php-pear php5-cgi php5-cli php5-common php5-curl php5-dev php5-fpm php5-gd php5-mysql
[09:49] <see1> Configuration file ./etc/php5/fpm/pool.d/www.conf i choose not to override
[09:50] <see1> php5-fpm starts well says the log
[09:50] <see1> i stop and start the serice
[09:51] <see1> but i see this error after choosing NO for the www.conf update-rc.d: warning: php5-fpm stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match LSB
[09:51] <see1> whats LSB ?
[09:56] <see1> any help?
[09:59] <BlackDex> see1: i seem to have the same problem
[10:00] <sveta> ouch
[10:01] <cfhowlett> see1 BlackDex I'm *guessing* that there's a packing problem upstream.  Probably fixable upstream/packaging as well.  Wait a bit and see if they get around to fixing it.
[10:02] <see1> hummm..ok guys then i will use my backup and wait
[10:03] <see1> how long u guys think?
[10:03] <cfhowlett> see1 couple of days?  and file a bug report ...
[10:06] <see1> cfhowlett who i can fill it up? i´m not so fresh in ubuntu support...i try a lot on my self to find what i make wrong...good to know this chan now
[10:07] <cfhowlett> !bug | see1
[10:09] <see1> !ubuntu-bug <precise> update-rc.d: warning: php5-fpm stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match LSB
[10:09] <see1> so`?
[10:09] <see1> !ubuntu-bug precise update-rc.d: warning: php5-fpm stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match LSB
[10:09] <cfhowlett> see1 in your terminal, not IRC ... P:)
[10:10] <see1> ahh :P ok thx
[10:12] <disposable> #lxcontainers
[10:13] <disposable> oops
[10:37] <disposable> I was happily using LXC on 12.04 and recently upgraded some of my servers to 14.04. Now it seems, the /sys/fs/cgroup/containername structure is completely gone and including stuff like lxc.cgroup.cpuset in config files just errors on lxc-start. the help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/lxc.com page has a rather confusing announcement that the 14.04 uses cgmanager to administer cgroups and nothing about how to use it in container config files.
[10:37] <disposable> is there a guide I can refer to? i really need to limit some of my containers.
[10:39] <rbasak> disposable: there's lxc.container.conf(5). Though it refers to kernel names for the parameters.
[10:39] <see1> ok guys thx for ur help,, ill wish u a nice day...maybe we speak us again :D
[10:39] <sveta> likewise
[10:40] <rbasak> disposable: does that give you wha tyou need?
[10:41] <disposable> rbasak: unfortunately, no. that manual does not reflect the current reality. if i set lxc.cgroup.cpuset.cpus = 0,1  or limit the memory, container won't start. it'll give me: lxc-start: command get_cgroup failed to receive response
[10:42] <disposable> i've just tested it in a freshly installed 14.04 in virtualbox
[10:42] <rbasak> hallyn: ^^ maybe you could take a look?
[10:43] <disposable> rbasak: I take that back. cpuset works, only memory doesn't. maybe there's atypo.
[10:43] <disposable> rbasak:  ignore me for now
[10:46] <disposable> my apologies, it was a typo. and having the line yanked and pasted in so many places didn't make it any less of a typo
[10:47] <rbasak> No problem.
[12:49] <BlackDex> bluefrog: i found the sollution :$
[12:49] <BlackDex> apperently i had a wildcard configured in my DNS. And my domain in the searchpath
[13:08] <jamespage> med_, the icehouse 2014.1.1 updates got tangled up with the security fixes which have now landed - just trying to get revised versions into proposed so we can complete testing
[13:34] <bitbyte_> Good afternoon guys, I’m trying to do some file organisation and was wanting to know if there is a quick way to rename 500+ files to take a certain name / word out of their title or to change OP to One piece
[13:36] <rbasak> bitbyte_: look into the rename command, find to determine the list of files to rename recursively, and xargs to apply the rename command to a list generated by find.
[13:37] <bitbyte_> Alright that gives me some where to start so i’ll give it a shot
[14:04] <Sander^work> It looks like df -i says i'm out of inodes.. How do I resolve this? Its a ext4 filesystem.
[14:05] <Sander^work> I still have 30% disk space according to df
[14:08] <patdk-wk> reformat
[14:15] <Sander^work> is there perhaps another filesystem which is better to use for many small files?
[14:15] <patdk-wk> heh?
[14:15] <patdk-wk> you oviously formatted your filesystem incorrectly for using many small files
[14:16] <patdk-wk> ext defaults to 1 inode per block
[14:16] <patdk-wk> to make it impossible for you to run out of inodes
[14:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> is there an easier way to install something that allows copy paste through Hyper-V?
[14:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> easier as in not using ISOs ideally
[14:16] <rbasak> Sander^work: see -T and -i options to mkfs.ext4 (or mke2fs, etc). I think that not all filesystems require this tuning option, though.
[14:16] <ToAruShiroiNeko> for whatever the reason ubuntu server doesnt recognise the hyper-v optical drive
[14:17] <patdk-wk> any inode based filesystem does
[14:17] <patdk-wk> that is most of them
[14:17] <patdk-wk> but like zfs doesn't
[14:17] <patdk-wk> no idea about btrfs
[14:18] <smoser> kickinz1, you've used tinyproxy ?
[14:18] <kickinz1> yes at work
[14:19] <smoser> i am in a situation where i i can't globally set 'http_proxy' as some things need to be local and some need to be proxied.
[14:19] <kickinz1> it ise usefull when you have to cope with proxies.
[14:19] <smoser> can i configure it to do something like that ?
[14:19] <smoser> ie, i thikn i'd end up having to tell it something like:
[14:19] <kickinz1> I think so, you install it, as your local proxy (<IP_ADDRESS>:8888 by default)
[14:19] <smoser> er...
[14:19] <smoser> right.
[14:19] <Sander^work> patdk-wk, I have almost 600000 inodes.. :-/
[14:19] <kickinz1> and then you can give him  rules in its configuration file
[14:19] <smoser> and then for "internet things", i'd need it to forward proxy somewhere else.
[14:20] <kickinz1> yes
[14:20] <smoser> and for "intranet things" i'd need it to not forward somewhere else.
[14:20] <smoser> thats awesome.
[14:20] <kickinz1> let me check a default conf
[14:21] <kickinz1> http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/3.x/tcz/src/tinyproxy/tinyproxy.conf
[14:21] <kickinz1> check upstream section
[14:21] <smoser> kickinz1, that is crazy awesome.
[14:23] <kickinz1> it saves me a lot of headaches
[14:23] <smoser> thank you.
[14:23] <kickinz1> 'saved'
[14:23] <kickinz1> you're welcome
[14:25] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I would welcome any help
[14:29] <smoser> ToAruShiroiNeko, i'm sorry I can't really help you, other than advice on what I'd do.  That would be not to use the vga console (or whatever you're using), but to ssh in.  then you just need your ssh session to support copy and paste.
[14:29] <smoser> but if you're trying to get to functional networking via the console, then yeah, that sucks.
[14:30] <ToAruShiroiNeko> okay...
[14:30] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am trying my best to keep things simple and am failing misreably
[14:31] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I now need to figure out how to use ssh with ubuntu server
[14:33] <ToAruShiroiNeko> sudo apt-get install openssh-server doesnt seem to work
[14:33] <patdk-wk> Sander^work, that is nothing, I have over 80Million inodes
 What's the problem?
[14:34] <OpenTokix> ToAruShiroiNeko: apt-get install ssh
[14:35] <ToAruShiroiNeko> bah I am not sure what happened, its working since I restarted
[14:36] <Sander^work> patdk-wk, which tune2fs -l parameter is mkfs.ext4 -i bytes-per-inode setting?
[14:36] <ToAruShiroiNeko> is ubuntu server firewall enabled by default?
[14:36] <jpds> ToAruShiroiNeko: No.
[14:36] <ToAruShiroiNeko> ah good, I dont have to worry about that then
[14:36] <jpds> OpenTokix: It is apt-get install openssh-server
[14:38] <Sander^work> patdk-wk, Inode blocks per group: 512 or Inodes per group: 8192 ?
[14:39] <jpds> ToAruShiroiNeko: If that doesn't work, post what it says on pastebin.ubuntu.com
[14:39] <ToAruShiroiNeko> no it installed fine
[14:39] <ToAruShiroiNeko> now trying to configure putty
[14:40] <OpenTokix> ssh is a metapackage for server and client
[14:40] <OpenTokix> fyi
[14:42] <ToAruShiroiNeko> well that was simple :)
[15:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am trying to follow this
[15:10] <ToAruShiroiNeko> http://www.techreceptives.com/install-openerp-ubuntu-14-04-lts/
[15:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am at 6.
[15:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> typing su openerp prompts a password
[15:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> what password is it?
[15:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> anything I try gives me an authontication fialiure
[15:13] <Pici> ToAruShiroiNeko: its "sudo su openerp"
[15:14] <Pici> make sure you aren't still logged in as the postgres account.
[15:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> now its telling me "Sorry, rey again."
[15:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> *try
[15:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> [sudo] password for openerp:
[15:22] <Pici> sounds like you are already logged in as openerp. You don't need to do anything then.
[15:23] <ToAruShiroiNeko> there are more directions
[15:23] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I dont understand
[15:23] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it is asking for password
[15:25] <Pici> You don't need to "su openerp", that looks to be a duplicate step.
[15:28] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it is asking for a password again when I type "sudo mv /home/openerp/.openerp_serverrc /etc/openerp-server.conf"
[15:28] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I do not understand why it is prompting a password so often
[15:34] <Pici> Because thats what happens when you use sudo.
[15:34] <Pici> !sudo
[15:36] <DeltaHeavy> Hey, so I ran an update today with an update to php5-fpm. I'm given a 502 HTTP error when trying ot access the site now. I looked in the error log and got this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7695615/
[15:37] <DeltaHeavy> nginx is running as www-data. The old permissions for /var/run/php5-fpm.sock is was   srw-rw---- root:root, but I've changed it to - srwxrwx--- root:www-data
[15:37] <DeltaHeavy> I reloaded the services and I'm still getting the same erorr. Anybody know how I can fix this?
[15:41] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Pici wwhat password is it expecting?
[15:42] <Pici> ToAruShiroiNeko: It expects the password of the user that you are running it as.  Typically, that is your normal user, unless you have added additonal directives to your sudoers file, or added other users to the sudo/admin group(S)
[15:42] <ToAruShiroiNeko> so I added a new user called openerp then
[15:42] <ToAruShiroiNeko> based on those directions
[15:42] <ToAruShiroiNeko> right?
[15:43] <Pici> ToAruShiroiNeko: yes.  And you are running sudo as your own user, so you should be using your own password.  Make sure that the prompt that you are at is no longer logged in as openerp though.
[15:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Pici but when I type my password it tells me "Sorry, try again."
[15:55] <Pici> ToAruShiroiNeko: what does your shell prompt say right now?
[15:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> openerp@ubuntu
[15:56] <Pici> ToAruShiroiNeko: because you used "sudo su openerp" you are effectively logged in as openerp now, which doesn't have enough rights to use sudo.  You need to use 'exit' to fall back to your user's login and from there you can issue sudo commands.
[15:58] <ToAruShiroiNeko> so vim is an editor
[16:07] <YamakasY> anyone mount webdav using gssapi ?
[16:11] <ToAruShiroiNeko> pICI THIS IS A BIG PAIN :(
[16:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> damn caps lock
[16:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am trying very hard to change the port on the congiguraiton file
[16:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> openerp-server.conf file
[16:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I probably messed it up :(
[16:14] <Pici> ToAruShiroiNeko: I highly suggest not using vim, it is not an easy editor to use.  Use nano.
[16:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> okay
[16:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> but first I need to somehow rstore the default version of the config file
[16:14] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am following the direcitons here: http://www.techreceptives.com/install-openerp-ubuntu-14-04-lts/
[16:17] <ToAruShiroiNeko> pici can you guide me in achieveing this because I am badly confused :(
[16:17] <Pici> ToAruShiroiNeko: are you still in vim?
[16:17] <ToAruShiroiNeko> no
[16:18] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am at the shell prompt
[16:18] <ToAruShiroiNeko> by performing sudo mv /home/openerp/.openerp_serverrc /etc/openerp-server.conf I think I moved the file
[16:18] <ToAruShiroiNeko> can I redownload the conf file?
[16:18] <Pici> ToAruShiroiNeko: yes, if you ran that, then it would have moved it.
[16:19] <Pici> ToAruShiroiNeko: why do you need to redownload it?
[16:19] <ToAruShiroiNeko> because I probably made unwanted modifications to it in vim
[16:20] <Pici> ToAruShiroiNeko: just start from step 6 again then.
[16:20] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I'll use nano once I am able to restore the file
[16:20] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I cant
[16:21] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it cant find the openerp-server.conf file (because it was moved)
[16:22] <Pici> ToAruShiroiNeko: It looks to me like "./openerp-server --addons-path=../addons,../web/addons -s" creates the config file.
[16:24] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I went to the directory /home/openerp/
[16:24] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it doesnt have a .conf file
[16:25] <ToAruShiroiNeko> openerp-server.conf is in /etc folder
[16:26] <Pici> ToAruShiroiNeko: step 6 specifically says that by running "./openerp-server --addons-path=../addons,../web/addons -s" it will create /home/openerp/.openerp_serverrc
[16:26] <ToAruShiroiNeko> yes but once created I dont think it creates it a second time, I dont know
[16:26] <Pici> ToAruShiroiNeko: it should.
[16:27] <Pici> ToAruShiroiNeko: if it doesn't, then delete /etc/openerp-server.conf and then try again.
[16:30] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it didnt
[16:33] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I think I fixed
[16:33] <ToAruShiroiNeko> it requred me to sudo si openerp first
[16:36] <ToAruShiroiNeko> openerp: unrecognized service
[16:37] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Isnt this correct: sudo update-rc.d -f openerp start 20 2 3 4 5 . ?
[16:45] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I got this:
[16:45] <ToAruShiroiNeko> update-rc.d: warning:  stop runlevel arguments (none) do not match openerp Default-Stop values (0 1 6)
[16:45] <ToAruShiroiNeko>  System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/openerp already exist.
[16:48] <ToAruShiroiNeko> Pici why could that be?
[17:12] <ToAruShiroiNeko> could anyone else help? :/
[17:13] <ToAruShiroiNeko> on one end it is telling me "System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/openerp already exist." and other "openerp: unrecognized service"
[20:18] <dave_s> I've followed the guide in the Ubuntu docs for setting up LDAP client auth, but can't seem to authenticate with LDAP running from Zentyal (OpenLDAP).
[20:19] <dave_s> PAM is enabled in Zentyal, I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong with the client setup.
[20:19] <sarnold> dave_s: are there any errors in /var/log/auth.lg?
[20:19] <dave_s> Do I need to do something to join the VM onto the domain like in Windows?
[20:21] <dave_s> sarnold: Okay, so I see "nscd: nss_ldap: failed to bind to LDAP server ldap://10.34.X.X/: Invalid credentials
[20:22] <dave_s> I typed the credentials provided by the Zentyal LDAP settings screen.
[20:22] <dave_s> Is there a specific set of credentials I need to use?
[20:23] <sarnold> dave_s: I'd hope they would work as expected; are there any logs on the zentyal ldap server? maybe it logs why the connection failed
[20:27] <dave_s> sarnold: Which file would I look in?
[20:27] <sarnold> dave_s: sorry, no idea, I've never been responsible for the care and feeding of an ldap server before :) hehe
[20:28] <dave_s> sarnold: Yeah, I'm about to chuck it out entirely. I only wanted LDAP so I could centrally manage users for the VMs on the network. It's turning out to be a bigger pain in the ass than I'd hoped.
[20:29] <sarnold> dave_s: I've only ever been a user of ldap but that's about what it felt like as a user too. :/
[20:29] <dave_s> It worked fine on the Windows 7 machine. I just went through like normal and joined the VM to the domain and 10 seconds later, like magic, I had LDAP working.
[20:29] <sarnold> pity, it'd be nice if something like it Just Worked
[20:30] <dave_s> Right? Why not have a simple CLI/GUI tool like "joindomain my.domain.tld -u dAdmin -p"?
[20:31] <dave_s> Type a password and Taaa-da!
[20:32] <sarnold> dave_s: does zentyal expose logs through their interface? it may be something that appears easy from the right interface..
[20:34] <dave_s> It seems to have a Log for everything but LDAP.
[20:34] <dave_s> Unless they merged it into Samba? But I'm not really using Samba right now...
[22:06] <CappyT> Hi everyone... i think i need and advice... i have JKS keystore and i want to pull out a .key file for use the key (because that JKS contains only the key) with apache... how can I? i tried googling without find nothing than more headache
[22:07] <abbaZaba> any advice for have an SSD in an ubuntu server machine?


[08:46] <gnomefreak> asac: did you push 3.0.1 to Hardy yet?
[08:57] <gnomefreak> !info nspluginwrapper intrepid
[08:59] <gnomefreak> asac: did we drop nspluginwrapper? its not showing up with apt-cache policy or search in intrepid and as you see bot cant find it either
[10:15] <gnomefreak> bug 247601
[10:54] <gnomefreak> bug 247682
[10:54] <gnomefreak> this tbird bullshit needs to get fixed soon
[10:57] <gnomefreak> cant send damn email to Lp bugs because tbird doesnt make the reply correctly (changes it after hitting reply) not sure if this is just IMAP) can someone please test with tbird <IP_ADDRESS> and POP3.
[11:04] <gnomefreak> it seems that new nvidia drivers nvidia-glx-173 builds  its own moduless as if you installed from the .run package on nvidia site, and why after building modules does the log in sound play :(
[11:16] <eagles0513875> hey all i was told in other channel
[11:16] <eagles0513875> and told that there was a fix that was going to be released for gnash spawning multiple processes
[11:19] <gnomefreak> asac: i told eagles0513875 to see you before pushing a gnash fix since i saw you and someone else working on it yesterday (friday the 11th)
[11:19] <asac> gnash fix?
[11:19] <eagles0513875> it keeps spawning multiple processes for me bogging down my system
[11:20] <gnomefreak> asac: too many processes are being spawned
[11:20] <asac> whats the fix?
[11:20] <eagles0513875> asac: gnome told me you guys were working on a gnash fix
[11:20] <gnomefreak> damn he is here
[11:20] <asac> eagles0513875: no. we are working on updating it  to 0.8.3
[11:21] <gnomefreak> fix/merge/sometheing else cant remember what the last one in / / / was
[11:21] <eagles0513875> has that been tested for spawning too many processes
[11:22] <eagles0513875> if you would like i can try gnash again
[11:23] <eagles0513875> !gnash
[11:24] <asac> eagles0513875: try the builds that are in gnash PPA
[11:24] <gnomefreak> i need a package to install (any package i dont alreeady have)
[11:24] <eagles0513875> asac: whats the link to the ppa
[11:25] <asac> Launchpad -> Gnash Team -> PPA ;)
[11:26] <gnomefreak> you started a gnash team?
[11:26] <asac> but i never heard of a gnash problem like that
[11:26] <asac> gnomefreak: long time ago ;)
[11:26] <gnomefreak> ah
[11:26] <asac> (with upstream developers)
[11:26] <gnomefreak> oh cool
[11:26] <eagles0513875> asac: i dont know if it might be me being on 64bit hardy
[11:27] <gnomefreak> iirc asac uses 64
[11:27] <gnomefreak> or did
[11:27] <asac> i am using it
[11:28]  * gnomefreak needs a mac
[11:28] <gnomefreak> s/needs/wants
[11:30] <eagles0513875> asac: using what
[11:31] <asac> 1 week ago i upgraded to intrepid
[11:31] <asac> before that hardy
[11:32] <eagles0513875> ahhhh gotcha
[11:32] <eagles0513875> asac: u haveing any issues with gnash and intrepd
[11:32] <asac> eagles0513875: in hardy it worked great
[11:32] <eagles0513875> really
[11:32] <eagles0513875> were u on 32 or 64
[11:32] <asac> eagles0513875: in intrepid it works, except that video is busted
[11:32] <asac> (due to gstreamer)
[11:33] <asac> eagles0513875: like i said above ... 64bit
[11:33] <asac> anyway ... got to run
[11:33] <asac> bl
[11:33] <asac> bbl
[11:33] <eagles0513875> interesting u never had the ff3 issue wher eit spawns multiple processes
[11:35] <gnomefreak> asac: have fun
[11:35] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: me neither
[11:35] <gnomefreak> but im on 32
[11:35] <eagles0513875> ok
[11:36] <gnomefreak> i need a package to install :(
[11:36] <gnomefreak> oh hell ill look when i get back from smoke
[11:36] <eagles0513875> what package
[11:43] <gnomefreak> anyone
[11:44] <gnomefreak> i want to see if Processing triggers for libc6 ...
[11:44] <gnomefreak> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[11:44] <gnomefreak> Processing triggers for menu ...
[11:44] <gnomefreak> is causing login sound to play
[11:49] <eagles0513875> gnash still isnt working for me even klash isnt working
[11:50] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: throw the harddrive out the window and get a new one than it will work ;)
[11:50] <eagles0513875> :P
[11:51] <eagles0513875> is gnash for gnome and klash for kde
[11:51] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:52] <gnomefreak> but as i remember you can use gnash on kde
[11:52] <gnomefreak> i think klash is for konq. and gnash is for gtk
[11:53] <eagles0513875> cuz there is a serious problem with gnash somewhere
[11:53] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: other people seeing this?
[11:53] <eagles0513875> ?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: anyone else having same problems as you with gnash?
[11:54] <eagles0513875> not that i know of
[11:54]  * gnomefreak thinks it a local problem
[11:54] <eagles0513875> care to help me out gnomefreak
[11:54] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: try new profiles ff3or whatever browser you use
[11:55] <eagles0513875> ff3 is default and how do i create a new profile
[11:55] <eagles0513875> gnomefreak: u saying rm -rf .firefox
[11:55] <gnomefreak> hold on ill get you the right way to do it
[11:55] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: no
[11:55] <gnomefreak> and you shouldnt have ~/.firefox
[11:56] <gnomefreak> damnit now my LP page moved to the left
[11:56] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: firefox -ProfileManager in terminal
[11:56] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: make a new one and use it to see if it gets fixed
[11:57] <eagles0513875> could it be an issue having ff3 installed and 2
[11:57] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: also how bad is it? runnig top should tell you the cpu and memory useage. is it only when on say youtube or any flash site
[11:58] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: only if you use both
[11:58] <gnomefreak> waswitching back and forth can really mess things up
[11:58] <eagles0513875> there is only one now
[11:58] <gnomefreak> s/waswitching/switching
[11:59] <gnomefreak> but if it already corrupted your profile it will stay that way
[11:59] <eagles0513875> but for instance i go to you tube its not noticing the plugin is installed
[11:59] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: make sure ff3 is using it
[12:00] <eagles0513875> im restarting ff3
[12:03] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: make sure you set update-alternatives to use gnash. im looking for right one but cant find it but its gonna be an xulrunner-1.9-addons or something like that
[12:03] <eagles0513875> how do i do that
[12:03] <gnomefreak> maybe xulrunner-addons-gnash
[12:04] <eagles0513875> i need to install that instead of gnash pkg
[12:04] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: to set all system defaults use sudo update-alternatives --all (i use --all all the time i never use the set one way
[12:04] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: you can try sudo update-alternatives xulrunner-addons-gnash
[12:05] <gnomefreak> sorry
[12:05] <gnomefreak> xulrunner-1.9-addons-gnash
[12:07] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: also look in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ to see if gnash is in there
[12:08] <eagles0513875> ok
[12:08] <gnomefreak> im not using gnash at this time but it will be something like libgnash.so
[12:08] <eagles0513875> its not it says libflash.so
[12:08] <eagles0513875> should i remove libflsh.so
[12:08] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: remove flash before using gnash
[12:09] <eagles0513875> ok
[12:09] <eagles0513875> so any flash related pkgs go
[12:09] <gnomefreak> IIRC there have been problems with having both on system
[12:09] <eagles0513875> ok
[12:09] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: you can remove it from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[12:09] <gnomefreak> than remove flashplugin-nonfree
[12:09] <eagles0513875> already done
[12:10] <eagles0513875> i removed all flash realted stuff except gnash
[12:10] <eagles0513875> now there is nothing in that flder
[12:10] <gnomefreak> than remove gnash with sudo apt-get remove --purge gnash  than run sudo apt-get autoclean than install gnash again
[12:11] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: because you switched between ff2 adn 3 at one time and it installed in firefox-2 plugins dir
[12:11] <eagles0513875> ahhhhhhhhhh gotcha
[12:11] <eagles0513875> should i remove ff2
[12:12] <gnomefreak> install mozilla-plugin-gnash konqueror-plugin-gnash
[12:12] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: you can, i really dont advice using both due to this problem
[12:12] <gnomefreak> i dont have 2 on my system
[12:12] <gnomefreak> if i need it its just a command away
[12:12] <eagles0513875> ok
[12:12] <eagles0513875> going to remove that
[12:13] <eagles0513875> there is still nothing showing up in that plugins folder
[12:13] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: you installed the 2 packages i told you
[12:14] <gnomefreak> maybe remove ff2 from ~/.mozilla/
[12:14] <eagles0513875> i have gnash installed whats the other pkg
[12:14] <gnomefreak> 07:11 <      gnomefreak > install mozilla-plugin-gnash konqueror-plugin-gnash
[12:14] <eagles0513875> ok will do that now
[12:15] <gnomefreak> those are the plugins the gnash package itself is stand alone
[12:15] <gnomefreak> IIRC
[12:15] <eagles0513875> wouldnt it be easier just to include them as dependencies when u install gnash
[12:17] <eagles0513875> im guessing restart ff
[12:18] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: its the other way around
[12:18] <eagles0513875> ?
[12:18] <gnomefreak> installing the plugins installs gnash. for gnash you dont need browser plugins
[12:19] <eagles0513875> ahhhhhhh gotcha
[12:19] <gnomefreak> since it is for downloaded videos not browser ones
[12:19] <eagles0513875> this is for browser ones im talking bout not downloaded ones
[12:20] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: yep i know thats why i told you to install the 2 packages
[12:20] <gnomefreak> when i said gnash i meant the plugins but i should have used the names of them but they would install gnash anywya
[12:20] <eagles0513875> gotcha
[12:20] <eagles0513875> i understand
[12:21] <gnomefreak> that should clean up your gnash problems now
[12:21] <eagles0513875> so i restart the browser now
[12:21] <gnomefreak> yep
[12:21] <gnomefreak> once it starts back up go to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ see if its there
[12:22] <gnomefreak> i get worried when someone running Intrepid asks if upgrade removing a few packages is safe :(
[12:23] <eagles0513875> lol i would be as well
[12:23] <gnomefreak> told him he should be using hardy if he has to ask that
[12:23] <gnomefreak> but looks like he wants me to run him through nvidia set up :(
[12:23] <eagles0513875> then again i dont think he should be on linux cuz what ever the release he will break something
[12:24] <eagles0513875> my browser is locked up right now
[12:24] <eagles0513875> 3 active gnash processes and 3 defunct according to top
[12:24] <eagles0513875> there is a simlink from flashplugin-alternative.so to somewhere else
[12:26] <eagles0513875> :( gnomefreak
[12:26] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: restart pc since you cant drop memor
[12:26] <gnomefreak> memory
[12:26] <eagles0513875> ok
[12:26] <gnomefreak> drop == dump
[12:27] <eagles0513875> i know
[12:29] <gnomefreak> ill be back in a few
[12:58] <gnomefreak> i guess it worked
[13:04] <gnomefreak> bug 210285
[13:04] <gnomefreak> bug 247761
[13:05] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm
[13:16] <asac> the guy most likely sees crashes because of libflashsupport
[13:21] <gnomefreak> yep
[13:21] <gnomefreak> there are alot of them
[13:21] <gnomefreak> i cant get it to crash here at all
[13:21] <gnomefreak> well i got 1 site to crash
[13:22] <asac> gnomefreak: why did you enable libflashsuport in your backport?
[13:22] <asac> nevermind.
[13:23] <gnomefreak> asac: i was told to
[13:23] <asac> gnomefreak: by whom?
[13:24] <gnomefreak> on the bug report crimson said to backport libflashsupport and he would work on PA for backports
[13:24] <gnomefreak> including Gutsy and Gutsy never had libflashsupport in repos
[13:24] <asac> gnomefreak: so was this uploaded yet or is it a PPA thing right now?
[13:24] <gnomefreak> asac: Hardy was uploaded to backports
[13:25] <gnomefreak> can do anything with gutsy until crimsun gets PA stuff done
[13:26] <gnomefreak> libflashsupport depends on libpulse0
[13:26] <gnomefreak> and that is in package pulseaudio
[13:26] <asac> so now people in hardy get libflashsupport
[13:26] <asac> great
[13:26] <asac> that sucks
[13:26] <gnomefreak> i agree
[13:26] <asac> you shouldnt have done that :(
[13:26] <gnomefreak> i didnt want to but i didnt have much choice
[13:26] <asac> you dont need PA nor libflashsupport in gutsy-backports
[13:27] <gnomefreak> asac: not my choice. since i have to go through bug reports the backporters make the rules i just build and test
[13:27] <gnomefreak> asac: for sound you do
[13:27] <gnomefreak> dont need but PA fixed the sound problems
[13:27] <asac> no you dont. thats stupid. all this problem was introduced in hardy
[13:27] <asac> in gutsy it will work the same way it worked in flash 9
[13:27] <gnomefreak> the one wher eyou cant listen to more than one sound
[13:28] <asac> yes, but thats neglegtabke
[13:28] <asac> we have the same bug in default hardy
[13:28] <gnomefreak> i agree
[13:28] <asac> we should try to fix things in backports
[13:28] <asac> shouldnt
[13:28] <gnomefreak> not anymore in hardy
[13:28] <asac> we intentionally moved libflashsupport away for hardy
[13:28] <gnomefreak> thats kind of the point of backports is to get version upgrade that doesnt meet SRU
[13:29] <asac> gnomefreak: well. version upgrade: yes. fixing other bugs: no.,
[13:29] <gnomefreak> asac: as in PA i guess you mean
[13:29] <gnomefreak> let me see what they think im gonna ask on bug report if we can just push flash10 to gutsy
[13:30] <asac> for hardy we decided that the crashes are worse than having no sonud
[13:30] <gnomefreak> maybe even pull libflashsupport out of Hardy but i highly doubt it
[13:30] <asac> now introducing the crashes to get sound in -backports is a no go
[13:30] <asac> that doesnt make sense
[13:30] <asac> yeah. not your fault
[13:32] <asac> ok, so who acks backports?
[13:32] <asac> who gave green light for this backport in particular?
[13:33] <asac> scottk?
[13:37] <asac> hmm the backports bug is not even documented in "auto backport" changelog ;)
[13:45] <gnomefreak> asac: the upload was done by pitti IIRC and Scottk just acked it since you only have to have 1 tester and from mostof the users that used my PPA packages removed libflashsupport and thier issues were gone
[13:46] <gnomefreak> i just added a very long post to that bug explaining what my thoughts were on this and libflash and asked for ideas on what is best way to handle this
[13:46] <gnomefreak> long as in my wrist hurts now
[13:49] <gnomefreak> be back
[14:09]  * gnomefreak wonders why people run intrepid dont know what they are doing or what is safe and whats not adn want to build the kernel to include a module :(
[14:12] <gnomefreak> asac: btw thunderbird has a few bugs that im seeing and some are causing alot more trouble than its worth :( like using reply doesnt turn everything into a reply and due to that LP kicks back my reply
[14:14] <gnomefreak> i wish i knew if it was IMAP Thunderbird or LP lp says its my gpg key so i fixed that now they say its the way tbird handles reply
[14:15] <asac> gnomefreak: ok thanks
[14:15] <asac> whats the bug id?
[14:16] <gnomefreak> asac: for tbird? there isnt one yet i am gonna test pop3 to see if it fixes things. oh tbird also hangs when closing it and asks to force or wait
[14:16] <asac> no for flash ;)
[14:17] <gnomefreak> oh
[14:17] <gnomefreak> hold on a sec
[14:17] <gnomefreak> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/gutsy-backports/+bug/235135
[14:18] <gnomefreak> it seems LP had an upload yesterday or today
[14:18] <gnomefreak> my homepage shifted to the left and on top
[14:33] <eagles0513875> asac: u around bro
[14:37] <eagles0513875> can anyone help me with a gnash issue
[14:39] <asac> eagles0513875: whats the problem?
[14:39] <eagles0513875> asac: i have gnash installed and its loading the stuff but cant play back anything
[14:40] <asac> video?
[14:40] <eagles0513875> ya
[14:41] <asac> thats not "anything" ;)
[14:41] <eagles0513875> nothings loading
[14:41] <eagles0513875> it knows the plugin is there
[14:41] <asac> how?
[14:42] <asac> is it in about:plugins ?
[14:42] <eagles0513875> it shows up under addons and plugins
[14:42] <asac> well ... is it in about:plugins ;)
[14:42] <eagles0513875> and it shows up there as well
[14:42] <asac> thats the important question
[14:42] <eagles0513875> si
[14:43] <asac> most likely an extension
[14:43] <eagles0513875> ?
[14:43] <asac> disable all extensions ;)
[14:44] <eagles0513875> gnomefreak: sry for dragging u into that mess
[14:44] <eagles0513875> ok from addons
[14:45] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: i dont care
[14:45] <gnomefreak> ask asac if its bad habit
[14:46] <asac> huh?
[14:46] <eagles0513875> asac: disabled all extensions
[14:49] <eagles0513875> whats next
[14:50] <gnomefreak> asac: taxbird - The first free Elster client (German Tax Declarations)  is that like turbo tax wher eyou file taxes online?
[14:52] <gnomefreak> nautilus-gksu << could be fun ;)
[14:53] <asac> gnomefreak: is that new?
[14:53] <gnomefreak> not sure ive never seen it before
[14:53] <asac> cool
[14:53] <asac> i need that ;)
[14:53] <asac> lets see how well it works
[14:53] <gnomefreak> Version: 2.0.0-5ubuntu3
[14:54] <gnomefreak> i dont think so but it might be new to our repos
[14:54] <eagles0513875> ok thats interesting
[14:54] <gnomefreak> asac: how hard would it be to kill IMAP from tbird?
[14:54] <eagles0513875> we have a nun in other channel
[14:55] <gnomefreak> hard bad whatever it may be
[14:55] <gnomefreak> nuns are dangerous with rulers :(
[14:55] <eagles0513875> lol
[14:56] <eagles0513875> galathon or something shes a nun
[14:56] <gnomefreak> ok here we go maybe ill hear the login sound and figure out when
[14:56] <gnomefreak> and why
[14:56] <eagles0513875> asac: do i reenable all the extensions now
[14:56] <eagles0513875> plugins i mean
[14:57] <gnomefreak> you can if you want them did you find out what was was causing issues?
[14:57] <eagles0513875> no
[14:57] <eagles0513875> i am starting to lean towards it being something in gnash
[14:57] <gnomefreak> maybe add one at a time test than add another?
[14:57] <eagles0513875> all i have enabled is gnash
[14:58] <eagles0513875> the other 2 disabled
[14:58] <gnomefreak> it most likely is but gnash shouldnt spawn many processes if you are still having that issue
[14:58] <gnomefreak> oh wtf
[14:58]  * gnomefreak leaning towards going postal on kubuntu devs
[14:58] <eagles0513875> its not spawning manyy processes now
[14:59] <eagles0513875> its the playing issue now
[14:59] <gnomefreak> asac: gnash is comparable to what flash release 7?
[15:02] <asac> gnomefreak: no. most of flash 8 and 9 as well
[15:02] <gnomefreak> oh damn
[15:02] <eagles0513875> then why am i having this playback issue
[15:03] <asac> eagles0513875: no idea. i am sure it works. since you had wierd issues in the beginning i guess that its something unrelated
[15:03] <eagles0513875> :(
[15:07] <gnomefreak> thats not good :(
[15:07] <eagles0513875> u read my min
[15:07] <eagles0513875> mind
[15:07] <eagles0513875> thats the last thing i wanna do is haveto pull out my winblows laptop
[15:08] <asac> eagles0513875: i can only tell you to properly restart everything. uninstall extensions or start with a fresh profile ... check if the flashplugin-alternative.so is really setup correctly
[15:09] <eagles0513875> whats it supposed to be sym linked to
[15:09] <eagles0513875> what folder is it supposed to be in
[15:09] <asac> eagles0513875: use update-alternatives program to check where it points to
[15:10] <asac> the alternative is named: xulrunner-addons-flashplugin
[15:11] <eagles0513875> seems like konq was set as default and i changed that to firefox
[15:13] <gnomefreak> asac: ah thats what i thought i just couldnt remember if it was right
[15:15] <eagles0513875> /etc/alternatives/xulrunner-addons-flashplugin
[15:15] <eagles0513875> /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/xulrunner-addons-flashplugin
[15:15] <eagles0513875> i ran locate and this is what it returned
[15:15] <eagles0513875> those correct
[15:21] <asac> eagles0513875: please read what i said ;)
[15:21] <asac> use update-alternatives ;)
[15:21] <eagles0513875> didnt see anything listed there though
[15:22] <asac> sudo update-alternatives --auto xulrunner-addons-flashplugin
[15:22] <asac> then
[15:22] <eagles0513875> ok
[15:22] <asac> update-alternatives --list xulrunner-addons-flashplugin
[15:22] <asac> and paste the output
[15:22] <eagles0513875> its /usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so
[15:23] <asac> after the --auto?
[15:23] <asac> or before?
[15:23] <asac> if its after restart your X server and see if you can play more flash files
[15:23] <eagles0513875> after the auto
[15:23] <eagles0513875> auto didnt bring back anything
[15:24] <asac> restart your X server then
[15:24] <asac> and star twith a fresh profile .... e.g. backup and then remove $HOME/.mozilla
[15:25] <eagles0513875> ok let me finish what im in the middle of really fast
[15:52] <eagles0513875> back
[15:55] <eagles0513875> asac: i id what u said and it still isnt working
[16:08] <asac> eagles0513875: yeah. sorry, have no additional ideas. if you find the cause let us know.
[16:08] <eagles0513875> asac: will do
[16:08] <eagles0513875> when is the next version of gnash coming out
[16:08] <eagles0513875> im wondering if that will fix it
[16:08] <asac> eagles0513875: 0.8.3 is the next ;)
[16:08] <asac> its not gnash
[16:08] <asac> its your setup for sure
[16:08] <eagles0513875> im at some point going to have to do a total reinstall
[16:09] <asac> eagles0513875: a good thing is to not use backports
[16:09] <eagles0513875> im not
[16:09] <eagles0513875> or am i
[16:10] <asac> but you tried flash 10
[16:10] <asac> thats from backport
[16:10] <asac> if not then i mixed things up
[16:11] <eagles0513875> flashplugin non free is multiverse
[16:13] <asac> but not flash 10 ;)
[16:20] <eagles0513875> yes flash 10 in multiverse im looking in adept right now
[16:21] <eagles0513875> im wondering i removed kernel .18 could that be causing the issue
[16:21] <eagles0513875> when i still had that installed i wasnt having it
[16:22] <asac> eagles0513875: flash 10 is only in backports
[16:22] <asac> this means you have backports enabled
[16:22] <asac> which means that the issues are most likely due to that ;)
[16:22] <eagles0513875> doh ok
[16:23] <asac> eagles0513875: not sure about kernel. unlikely i'd say that this changes a thing
[16:23] <eagles0513875> i uninstalled the nonfree plugin btw
[16:23] <asac> yes. but having -backports enabled will pull in other things
[16:24] <asac> anyway i cant tell. if alternative is setup correctly and flash is not disabled in addons->plugins then it works for everyone i heard of
[16:24] <asac> except if there are extensions like flashblock and stuff like that in between
[16:25] <asac> or cruft in the profile. but since you removed this already, there are not many other options left
[16:26] <asac> eagles0513875: try to install swfdec-mozilla
[16:26] <asac> ;)
[16:26] <asac> if that doesnt work either then you are doomed :)
[16:26] <asac> if you are not using firefox 3 you might have other issues as well


[01:21] <xnox> vorlon, autosync is off?
[01:44] <tsimonq2> xnox: yup
[01:44] <tsimonq2> Seems it's been off for a few days...
[01:44] <tsimonq2> I mean, I just noticed it when he said it myself, but :)
[03:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: pysimplesoap (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.16-2 => 1.16-2ubuntu0.1] (ubuntustudio, xubuntu)
[03:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: reportbug [amd64] (disco-proposed/universe) [7.5.0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[13:54] <doko> vorlon: about yaml-cpp I'll ping -security to see if they are ok, and will pester roaf again
[15:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: boost-defaults [i386] (disco-proposed/main) [<IP_ADDRESS>] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[15:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: boost-defaults [s390x] (disco-proposed/main) [<IP_ADDRESS>] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
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[20:36] <acheronuk> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#qtbase-opensource-src
[20:37] <acheronuk> flagged in #ubuntu-qt and people are looking at that
[22:21] <vorlon> xnox, tsimonq2: is in the topic; turned off to try to get the transition through
[22:21] <vorlon> acheronuk: what is it you're calling attention to there? I see that there's been an upload, and there are a lot of newly failing autopkgtests that need sorting, is that it?
[22:25] <jbicha> vorlon: https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/britney/hint-udisks2/+merge/358961


 US 18.04  just updated and I really like the new US Controls. Especially the Jack status indicator and links to QASMixer and Carla. Very good. 😎
[15:21] <OvenWerks> @Chris: you're welcome
 Why no Pulse2Jack checkbox?
 Not that I miss it particularly.
[15:23] <OvenWerks> @Chris it is still there... but not as a check box.
 Citextion. It is there but has been moved!
[15:23] <OvenWerks> You can now choose how many bridges you have
 Sorry.
 Ok
[15:25] <OvenWerks> There was one person who needed two mics going to two pulse driven apps or something like that. Anyway they felt a second pulse bridge would help
 Understood.
[15:25] <OvenWerks> @Chris, obviously setting the bridge number to 0 turns that off
 Right


[08:21] <linu2> hi i have used kernel-3.10,and enabled framebuffer but when i try to run a sample qt application in at91sam9x5ek board using same kernel that says http://pastebin.com/YZxgptL4   can you tell mw what is that issues
[10:00] <aditya1> Hello all... i understand i am asking a repeated question... but i am looking out for a easier solution. 	i followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation to get my nexus running with ubuntu. The ubuntu installer looks for a different URL to download packages
[10:01] <aditya1> and manual steps are going for a hang... nothing is getting copied... is there a way to get ubuntu nexus installer installing from a local bootimg and .img files?
[10:19] <wookey> infinity: (or anyone): I made an image from the saucy arm64 tarball at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/releases/13.10/release/ubuntu-core-13.10-core-arm64.tar.gz and booted it with my existing-working kernels. It does a load of upstart stuff and hangs at:
[10:19] <wookey> [   14.415224] init: startpar-bridge (procps-virtual-filesystems-started) goal changed from stop to start
[10:19] <wookey> anyone got any idea what that might mean?
[10:29] <hrw> nope
[10:36] <linu> hi i have used kernel-3.10,and enabled framebuffer but when i try to run a sample qt application in at91sam9x5ek board using same kernel that says http://pastebin.com/YZxgptL4   can you tell mw what is that issues
[10:46] <wookey> hrw: do you have the magic runes you made that linux-boot .axf from?
[10:46] <wookey> I only ever used yours so have no idea how to maker a new one
[10:47] <linu> hi any idea about my issues
[10:47] <wookey> I just tried booting with img-foundation from http://releases.linaro.org/13.09/openembedded/aarch64/ and that doesn;t get far at all and backtraces
[10:47] <hrw> wookey: you mean Image -> axf ones?
[10:47] <wookey> yes
[10:48] <hrw> moment
[10:48] <wookey> I have a checkout of boot-wrapper-aarch64 which may be important
[10:50] <hrw> wookey: http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=openembedded/meta-linaro.git;a=blob;f=meta-linaro/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-linaro-fastmodel.inc;h=284f912ca5d5a9b29345eb6786fadfca837438b6;hb=HEAD
[10:50] <hrw> wookey: check do_compile_append()
[10:50] <hrw> I want aarch64 hardware...
[10:50] <wookey> cheers.
[10:51] <wookey> yes. me too. some lucky people have some now...
[10:51] <wookey> this is how youi know if you are important or not :-)
[10:55] <hrw> if you say so ;D
[10:55] <hrw> wookey: check demo tuesday at linaro connect
[10:59]  * XorA has not aarch64 goodness :-(
[10:59] <wookey> the schedule has teu afternoon mostly empty
[10:59] <wookey> tue
[14:30] <wookey> doko: riku: OK. I can boot the image if I don't run upstart
[14:32] <suihkulokki> wookey: perhaps some kernel option that is needed by upstart is not enabled in linaro kernel?
[14:32] <wookey> maybe, except that it worked fine with raring image
[14:32] <wookey> so what's changed? I guess the default kernel has, so maybe some assumptions
[14:33] <wookey> this one is 3.8.0
[14:33] <wookey> using the current linaro OE release img.axf barfs quickly with a backtrace
[14:34] <wookey> I should probably try latest model too
[14:35] <suihkulokki> wookey: note that img.axf is for fast model while img-foundation.axf is for foundation model
[14:39] <wookey> OK. I wondered what the diff was
[14:39] <wookey> I think I tried the latter - lets check
[14:41] <wookey> OK. prom,iosing - that just wants: Please append a correct "root=" boot option
[14:41] <wookey> how do I edit the command line in a .axf?
[14:41] <suihkulokki> you don't
[14:41] <suihkulokki> you rebuild your axf
[14:42] <wookey> OK. that's what I feared
[14:42] <suihkulokki> incidentally, different command line is the only difference between those to axf files
[14:42] <wookey> right. I had a selection like that in feb for 'boot to init.sh', 'run upstart with debug' etc
[14:43] <wookey> I have 'kcmt' kernel command line modification tool' here, which maybe helpful
[14:44] <wookey> I assume we are using a dtb in the above .axf files?
[14:45] <suihkulokki> oops right, the dtb file inside the axf is different too
[14:46] <wookey> OK. I'll have a poke abut with this - looks like it should be kickable
[15:14] <infinity> wookey: That sounds less like it's hung and more like you don't have a getty on your serial console.
[15:14] <infinity> wookey: Though, that last message from init is a bit odd-sounding, I suppose.
[15:19] <wookey> Ah OK, that's possible
[15:21] <wookey> I guess that's /etc/init/console.conf in upstart-world. which just runs exec /sbin/getty -8 38400 console
[15:23] <wookey> which is just the same as my raring img
[15:33] <infinity> wookey: If this is on a machine/vm with an actual serial console, you'll want an /etc/init/ttyAMA0.conf or ttyS0.conf or whatever.
[15:34] <wookey> OK. there isn;t one in the working image
[15:34] <infinity> wookey: Like http://paste.ubuntu.com/6283597/ for instance.
[15:34] <infinity> Though, if /dev/console is actually the right thing, then nevermind.
[15:34] <infinity> Is this for a Foundation Model?
[15:37] <wookey> yes
[15:37] <wookey> I'm trying to fish the options out of the working axf - thenI might have some idea what's what
[15:44] <infinity> I believe apw got ubuntu-core booting on a Foundation Model the other day in a fit of experimentation and boredom.  Not sure if he had to do anything fancy to get there.
[15:44] <infinity> apw: Or am I on crack?
[15:48] <apw> infinity, indeed, i'm doccing it at the moment
[18:15] <wookey> OK. I've grokked how to get kernel command lines in and out of .axfs
[18:16] <wookey> and Iwas just about to complain that it still hansg with upstart, but after impressive wait I have a prompt :-)
[18:17] <wookey> I appear to be in business
[18:17] <wookey> OK. so I guess the conclusion is that saucy doesn;t boot with 3.8.0 on vexpress, but does with 3.11
[18:18] <wookey> The secret arm internal tool modify_commandline.sh ( load of objdump and dtc runes) ought to get a wider airing - it's exceedingly handy for this sort of thing
[21:17] <AmEv> Any Tegra 2 guys here right now?
[21:55] <wookey> infinity, doko: so I booted http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/releases/13.10/release/ubuntu-core-13.10-core-arm64.tar.gz but any attempt to use apt just complains that libstcd++ is not present. Is that expected?
[21:56] <wookey> it does seem not to be present
[21:57] <wookey> presenably if I jam http://ports.ubuntu.com/pool/main/g/gcc-4.8/libstdc++6_4.8.2-1ubuntu2_arm64.deb in things should work better
[22:03] <AmEv> Is there a porting guide to get Ubuntu onto Android tablets natively? (deep wishing.... haha....)
[22:04] <AmEv> I've tried following several Tegra 2 guides, but never had luck booting my tablet into Ubuntu.
[22:05] <doko> wookey, I never did see that
[22:07] <doko> I'll copy the tarball and image which I am using, but it will take until tomorrow
[22:08] <wookey> OK. cheers.
[22:09] <wookey> hmm in fact dpkg says libstdc++6:arm64 is installed.
[22:10] <wookey> but apt-get update says: pt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file
[22:11] <wookey> aha /usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libstc++.so.6 is a link to /usr/aarch64-linux-gnu/lib/libstdc++.so.6 which is missing
[22:13] <wookey> looks like toolchain build issue
[22:15] <doko> not here
[22:18] <infinity> wookey: I tested it and didn't have that issue.  Did you do something curious to it?
[22:21] <wookey> nope, just unpacked
[22:22] <wookey> what version of libstdc++6 have you got?
[22:23] <wookey> 4.7.3-1ubuntu1 here. The 4.7.3-1ubuntu2 on ports seems to have a real /usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6.0.18 in it
[22:23] <infinity> (base)adconrad@cthulhu:~/core$ ls usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6* -l
[22:23] <infinity> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     19 Oct 11 20:16 usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 -> libstdc++.so.6.0.18
[22:23] <infinity> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 975016 Oct 11 20:27 usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6.0.18
[22:23] <infinity> wookey: ^-- I see nothing wrong with the above, so I'm questioning how you unpacked it.
[22:24] <infinity> (That was a fresh unpack of a wget of the above URL you gave)
[22:24] <wookey> hmm. I have got those files
[22:25] <infinity> Your symlink sounds suspiciously like it would have come from a cross toolchain.  Which is impossible in the core tarball itself.
[22:25] <doko> err, 4.7.3 ???
[22:25] <infinity> wookey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285690/
[22:26] <infinity> wookey: Whatever you've done, it didn't come from my tarball. :P
[22:27] <wookey> I really did just do: tar -C $MOUNT -xzf $TARBALL
[22:27] <wookey> (inside losetup mount to make a .img disk image)
[22:28] <infinity> And there was nothing previously existing in said directory?
[22:31] <wookey> it gets formatted then mounted - looks farily robust. I'll poke about a bit and see what's what
[22:33] <doko> wookey, see http://people.canonical.com/~doko/tmp/arm64/ this one has a saucy host, and a trusty chroot, my sync will need about on hour
[22:33] <infinity> wookey: And so you don't think I'm crazy, on real hardware:
[22:33] <infinity> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6285718/
[22:34] <wookey> what do you get for  dpkg -l | grep libstdc ?
[22:34] <infinity> wookey: That's at the end of that paste.
[22:35] <wookey> right. OK. I'm clearly not running what I think I'm running.
[22:36] <wookey> thanks for the reality check
[22:36] <infinity> wookey: Well, I'd have noticed if this was broken, given that "chroot in and run apt-get a bit" is basically *the* test case for ubuntu-core validation. :)
[22:37] <wookey> indeed. no apt is serious
[22:49] <wookey> OK. obvious and embarassing s/raring/saucy/ error spotted. trying again...
[23:25] <doko> wookey, sync finished, http://people.canonical.com/~doko/tmp/arm64/


[00:24] <valorie> ok, that's better
[00:25] <valorie> packagekit crashed, had to dpkg --configure -a, update via apt, and all seems well
[02:06] <valorie> huh, I think it was because I tried out prime-select and chose intel
[02:06] <valorie> back in nvidia
[02:06] <valorie> and everything looks back to normal
[02:30] <valorie> [19:26] <infinity> World respinning, off to bed.
[02:30] <valorie> 4 minutes ago
[02:33] <tsimonq2> valorie: He's in London right now, lol.
[02:33] <tsimonq2> He's at Canonical
[02:33] <tsimonq2> *Canonical's Bluefin office.
[02:33] <valorie> I understand
[02:34] <valorie> "world respinning" is the important bit I thought
[02:34] <tsimonq2> That's apparent.
[02:34] <tsimonq2> (Steve said that would be the case earlier.)
[02:34] <valorie> yep
[02:34] <tsimonq2> Kool. :)
[02:35] <valorie> which is why I took the afternoon to get my hair cut and do some work out in the yard
[02:35] <valorie> and then fight with my laptop!
[02:35] <tsimonq2> hehe
[02:35] <tsimonq2> Funny enough, I got a haircut this afternoon as well!
[02:36] <valorie> so your new license photo will show a lotta EAR
[02:36] <tsimonq2> hahahahahaha
[02:37] <tsimonq2> Maybe!
[02:37] <valorie> :-)
[03:48] <valorie> testing time!
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFaLq-L9FnQ
 Mostly positive, but something is a bit off to me. can't quite say what
 probably as I never heard of him before now :P
[23:06] <valorie> I like it
[23:06] <valorie> except he talks a lot
[23:20] <valorie> ok, everybody hates oem, so I'll start there
 OEM works fine here ;)
[23:24] <acheronuk> I don't hate oem. only hated it when it was busted
[23:26] <valorie> well, it's more fiddly, since one has to restart a couple of times
[23:26] <valorie> and now i'm used to it