[03:59] <CompuChip> Hmm, I just noticed that when I create a new dir as normal user it's owned by root. It's a FAT32 disk. Do I need some options in fstab?
[03:59] <danfg> kimo, try googling for webmin demo
[03:59] <babo> someone help me ... I want rip off the MIAA before I go to bed tonight ...
[03:59] <meheren> juhaz, thx
[03:59] <ndazza> meheren: no idea... tried right clicking on it? selecting it and pressing f2?
[03:59] <babo> if you are listening MIAA, I'm only joking ...
[04:00] <Selaiah> When i try to do: sudo ifup ra0 - I get the error: Interface doesn't accept private ioctl... set (8BE2): Invalid argument Failed to bring up ra0. -- Anyone know what might be causing this?
[04:00] <meheren> juhaz, umm didn't work...
[04:00] <makko> why can't i connect to the x11 server in a root konsole (after i run "sudo konsole")?
[04:00] <meheren> juhaz, it executed without any erros but it didn't change the name...
[04:01] <babo> can anyone help me here with an X problem ... ?  http://pastebin.com/762324
[04:01] <vincenz> Anyone know why my http_proxy variable is getting set even though I can not find it defined in any file in /etc nor in .bashrc nor in .profile?  I tried grepping my system to no avail!
[04:01] <george_looney> makko, that has to do with permissions
[04:01] <makko> george_looney: how do i change permissions? which permissions?
[04:02] <babo> actually this is probably a better view ... http://pastebin.com/762327
[04:02] <meheren> i have a question after doing a fresh dapper install my res size wen tdown to 1280x960.. i have a 1600x1200 screen so this is kinda anoying how do i get my resolution size back up to 1600x1200?
[04:02] <rpedro> meheren: administration >> language support
[04:02] <george_looney> makko, you are running the X Window (GUI) as a normal user...
[04:02] <meheren> rpedro, ok.. thx
[04:02] <george_looney> ....but when you do a "sudo konsole", the konsole rpogram is ...
[04:02] <CompuChip> Anyone knows something about permissions here?
[04:03] <george_looney> ... running as root and it cannot access the X display of the normal user (YOU)!
[04:03] <meheren> predro, ok the screen came up with a bunch of languages to select.. what am i supposed to do?
[04:03] <jdrugo> hi, i've got an odd problem: after getting my laptop serviced (they've replaced the motherboard) the ethernet card won't work anymore. it still works in windows, and the kernel module (e1000) loads without error, but ifconfig gives 'eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: no such device'. Any ideas?
[04:04] <kimo> try xhost +localhost
[04:04] <ndazza> makko: try running a normal konsole. once it's running, run 'exec sudo -s'
[04:05] <rpedro> meheren: the combobox on the bottom, probably change it to English(USA) if it isn't already
[04:05] <meheren> ok
[04:05] <rpedro> meheren: if it is, then i don't know...
[04:05] <meheren> it is already...
[04:05] <Juhaz> meheren, well, then those crazy ubuntu fellows have patched it. works in upstream... did you try what ndazza said?
[04:05] <ndazza> makko: this is the recommended way to do it, as it doesn't open any security holes
[04:05] <extern> does wine work under 64 bit ubuntu?
[04:06] <ballball> Can I change the screen resolution when installing ubuntu from live cd? The resolution drop-down never shows up, and Im stuck at 640*480
[04:06] <usuario> cristo
[04:06] <meheren> ahh no..?
[04:06] <ndazza> i think what i said was 'change country' or something similar
[04:06] <ndazza> as in, move :p
[04:06] <ndazza> someone else suggested using gconf-editor to modify the name
[04:06] <ndazza> i tried that too and it didn't work for me either
[04:06] <rpedro> meheren: I also have configured as english(USA) and mine says 'Wastebasket' :)
[04:07] <meheren> ok
[04:07] <danfg> ballball: if you're installing dapper, in the startup screen, you can press F4 or F6 (dont remember which, just look at the screen) and select another resolution
[04:07] <ballball> danfg: k, thanks
[04:07] <meheren> config-editor came up where is the value to change the trash?
[04:08] <hmpedersen> Matthewv, you there?
[04:08] <ceca> hi
[04:08] <ema92> !paste
[04:08] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[04:09] <Jemt_> Greetz. Am I the only one having grapical erros on my buttons in Dapper ?  http://powerzone.dk/Screenshot.png
[04:09] <daqing> i am back now
[04:09] <vincenz> Why does openoffice not launch in dapper?
[04:09] <MaKkY> i need Mozilla Active X....
[04:09] <daqing> do anyone know how to solve my problem?
[04:09] <vincenz> ** (process:10079): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ...
[04:09] <byen> Jemt, I had that issue too but changing the theme seems to have fixed it
[04:10] <Jemt_> byen: Ah, ok, I'll try that - thanks :)
[04:10] <MaKkY> !caps
[04:10] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[04:10] <Frogzoo> vincenz: not sure, try opening from a terminal to read error msgs
[04:10] <MaKkY> Mozilla Active X...
[04:10] <vincenz> I get the following error when launching oo
[04:10] <vincenz> http://rafb.net/paste/results/zIA3fr17.html
[04:11] <vincenz> oocalc in this case
[04:11] <redrum> DEATH to ATi
[04:11] <Hagbard_Ub> hmm... maybe switchin to Debian later
[04:12] <vincenz> how do I fix this?
[04:12] <hmpedersen> Allright.. CAn anyone help me install grub from the live cd?
[04:13] <daqing> after i install the ubuntu  6 follow the installation guide ,i meet a error like this :  grub loading ,please wait .....  error 17
[04:13] <babo> when I try to open a torrent with bittorrent it asks me to 'save location for bittorrent session' ... the I just type 'name_of_movie' and it tells me bad file information ... ?
[04:13] <prammy> has anyone been able to get wmv9 files to play on totem ?
[04:13] <vincenz> Do I need to mail this somewhere as bugreport?
[04:13] <KenSentMe> daqing maybe you get more information on this forum topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189681&highlight=grub+error+17
[04:14] <KenSentMe> daqing do you have more hard drives in your system?
[04:14] <daqing> no ,i just have one harddisk
[04:14] <vincenz> Frogzoo: bugreport it?
[04:14] <makko> ndazza: when i run "sudo konsole", i cannot open any x11 app from that konsole; but, when i run "sudo xterm", i can run any x11 app. how do you explain that? it doesn't look like a permissions issue to me.
[04:14] <suarta> hello everybody
[04:14] <vincenz> !bugreport
[04:14] <ndazza> vincenz: do you have an ati card?
[04:14] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, vincenz
[04:15] <vincenz> ndazza: yes I do
[04:15] <vincenz> x300
[04:15] <ndazza> is it working okay? do you get 3d acceleration?
[04:15] <vincenz> I had flgrx on 5.05
[04:15] <vincenz> and it worked fine
[04:15] <jahshua> hello
[04:15] <makko> ndazza: no, forget about 3d, i am only talking about plain x11 issues
[04:15] <vincenz> erm fglrx
[04:15] <suarta> I have ubuntu dapper on acer aspire 5610 and I can't find the wireless interface. any help please?
[04:15] <jahshua> hello
[04:15] <Jemt_> There is not a fix available for the graphic errors in the default theme in Ubuntu? (Button error : http://powerzone.dk/Screenshot.png)  ?
[04:16] <Hagbard_Ub> hmmm...
[04:16] <Jemt_> That's the only theme I like
[04:16] <vincenz> makko: he was referring to me ;)
[04:16] <Hagbard_Ub> any good WM for Ubuntu?
[04:16] <makko> vincenz: oh, ok
[04:16] <Hagbard_Ub> not gnome/kde/xfce/fluxbox
[04:16] <ndazza> in the pastebin there are lots of errors related to fglrx. maybe that module is interacting badly with the libraries/whatevers that openoffice.org needs
[04:16] <vincenz> ndazza: how do I check if normal 3d works fine?
[04:16] <jahshua> hey anyone have any good links on using PPPOE /w Ubuntu
[04:16] <jahshua> please
[04:16] <vincenz> ndazza: correct and I would think this is a bug... so I wonder how to fix this
[04:16] <ndazza> Hagbard_Ub: icewm? blackbox? tvwm?
[04:16] <vincenz> ndazza: a) as report and b) being able to actually use OOo atm
[04:16] <Hagbard_Ub> ndazza, Never tryed... apt-get is what?
[04:17] <ndazza> vincenz: easiest way is to install something like tuxracer. if it runs decently you have 3d acceleration
[04:17] <ndazza> vincenz: to disable, not sure. dapper won't install for me unfortunately
[04:17] <vincenz> ndazza: aha fglrxinfo gives me the same
[04:17] <Hagbard_Ub> vincenz, glxgears -printfps would do it
[04:17] <redrum> ati drivers are crapola
[04:17] <CompuChip> Hagbard_Ub: apt-get is a command-line package manager
[04:17] <rpedro> !tell suarta about wifi
[04:17] <Hagbard_Ub> CompuChip, i know?!
[04:17] <jahshua> !tell jahshua about PPPOE
[04:17] <redrum> ive been running things in 3d fine, but ill exit some 3d applicatoins and X will simply restart.
[04:17] <vincenz> redrum: thank you...that's very helpful
[04:18] <makko> why can't i connect to the x11 server in a root konsole (after i run "sudo konsole")? ndazza: when i run "sudo konsole", i cannot open any x11 app from that konsole; but, when i run "sudo xterm", i can run any x11 app. how do you explain that? it doesn't look like a permissions issue to me.
[04:18] <suarta> rpedro: you have any clue please?
[04:18] <Hagbard_Ub> but i wanted to know i it was in the repos and wich "adress" it had
[04:18] <luca__> hello
[04:18] <ndazza> Hagbard_Ub: apt-cache search tvwm (etc)
[04:18] <vincenz> I have an actual bug with fglrx in Dapper... Where do I submit a bugreport, and how do I keep going so that I can temporarily bypass this bug?
[04:18] <Hagbard_Ub> ndazza, well.. okey
[04:18] <ndazza> Hagbard_Ub: should be in universe i guess
[04:18] <redrum> vincenz, no ive just spent nearly a week now working around issues and have finally given up, this weekend i am buying an nvidia card and making artwork of my ati card.
[04:18] <doktoreas> hi to all
[04:18] <KenSentMe> !bug
[04:18] <vincenz> redrum: I have a laptop, gfx card changing isn't an optin
[04:18] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[04:19] <luca__> udev is causing a lot of problems in ubuntu, with regard to /dev/null being not writeable. x does not start. how to fix this?
[04:19] <doktoreas> got a problem with dapper...as i plug in my pcmcia modem card
[04:19] <KenSentMe> !tell vincenz about bug
[04:19] <doktoreas> system freeze
[04:19] <ballball> That didn\t work B<
[04:19] <rpedro> suarta: try following the steps on the howto first
[04:19] <vincenz> KenSentMe: thx
[04:19] <vincenz> redrum: any idea on how to use OO atm?
[04:19] <suarta> rpedro: thks a lot
[04:19] <ndazza> Hagbard_Ub: some people at my LUG were also playing around with a cvs version of e17, it looked very nice and was quite light
[04:19] <Keigo-kun> Is there any good program like mIRC for Ubuntu? I tried to compile xchat, but it just won't work, no matter how many packages I download
[04:20] <jameyg> Keigo-kun: why don't you just install it rather than compile it?
[04:20] <Jhair> Keigo-kun: why compile.
[04:20] <Hagbard_Ub> Keigo-kun, sudo apt-get install xchat how hard is that?
[04:20] <jameyg> lmao
[04:20] <jenny_> hello
[04:20] <tr00st> Just got xgl and compiz setup, shift+backspace seems to kill X, just wondering if anyone knows how to disable this...
[04:20] <ndazza> Keigo-kun: xchat is installed by default (i think). try just typing xchat from a console
[04:20] <Selaiah> When i try to do: sudo ifup ra0 - I get the error: Interface doesn't accept private ioctl... set (8BE2): Invalid argument Failed to bring up ra0. -- Anyone know what might be causing this?
[04:20] <Keigo-kun> Because there isn't any xchat package for ubuntu on their site :(
[04:20] <brandon_> do i need to unblock 2401 to make cvs connections?
[04:20] <jenny_> i just recently upgraded to dapper and for some reason it doesn't recognize the kbd module
[04:20] <Hagbard_Ub> tr00st, Search on www.ubuntuforums.org
[04:20] <ndazza> Keigo-kun: try using synaptic package manager
[04:20] <Hagbard_Ub> Keigo-kun, Do you have uni/multi enabled?
[04:21] <jenny_> so i can't startx
[04:21] <Keigo-kun> I have uni enabled
[04:21] <makko> Keigo-kun: try kvirc.
[04:21] <Hagbard_Ub> then it should be there
[04:21] <Hagbard_Ub> irssi <3
[04:21] <Keigo-kun> Anyway, I want to be able to compile programs anyway.. I thought Ubuntu came with the nessecary tools..
[04:21] <jameyg> Keigo-kun: so sudo apt-get install xchat
[04:21] <jenny_> i tried sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-kbd but it says i have the latest stuff
[04:21] <redrum> !gcc
[04:21] <jameyg> Keigo-kun: apt-get install build-essential
[04:21] <jenny_> anyone have anythoughts?
[04:21] <ubotu> gcc is, like, the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[04:21] <ndazza> xchat is in main
[04:21] <FeestBijtje> Hello peeps
[04:21] <Keigo-kun> but even after installing make, glibc-dev and build-essential, it won't work
[04:21] <Hagbard_Ub> Keigo-kun, nope... you have yto install some
[04:21] <ndazza> see 'apt-cache policy xchat'
[04:22] <Keigo-kun> It say it can't find -lperl in some folder
[04:22] <makko> Keigo-kun: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:22] <directhex|work> what has replaced "passwd passwd/make user boolean false" as the preseed mantra to avoid creating any user accounts?
[04:22] <Keigo-kun> I allready have build-essential
[04:22] <Keigo-kun> it's not enough
[04:22] <Jhair> Keigo-kun: it doesn't make sense to compile xchat when it is available from the repositories.
[04:22] <Keigo-kun> everything up to make works
[04:22] <makko> Keigo-kun: anyway, i guess you will love kvirc.
[04:22] <directhex|work> why not just go "apt-get build-dep xchat"?
[04:23] <hajuu> Hey guys.. Whenever I try to load xdm or gdm I get the message: "Could not open default font 'fixed' ".. but I cant find any xfonts package like that.. any ideas?
[04:23] <Keigo-kun> I didn't know xchat was allready supplied, I looked for it in the synaptic thing
[04:23] <ndazza> Keigo-kun: sudo apt-get install libperl-dev
[04:23] <freakabcd> hi all
[04:23] <roe> so my apt issue if anyone is interested for some reason all HTTP sources fail but FTP ones work fine
[04:23] <Keigo-kun> ndazza, I'll try that
[04:23] <vagikim> hi all
[04:23] <Keigo-kun> brb, hopefully >_>
[04:23] <freakabcd> anyone know how to install the utopia fonts from Adobe on ubuntu?
[04:23] <ndazza> Keigo-kun: it's definately available through synaptic in breezy
[04:23] <directhex|work> Keigo-kun, packages.ubuntu.com/xchat
[04:23] <Selaiah> When i try to do: sudo ifup ra0 - I get the error: Interface doesn't accept private ioctl... set (8BE2): Invalid argument Failed to bring up ra0. -- Anyone know what might be causing this?
[04:23] <Selaiah> Anyone seen that before?
[04:24] <freakabcd> i can see all the files on CTAN, but have no clue as to how to install :(
[04:24] <directhex|work> xchat is in universe on dapper
[04:24] <hajuu> I thought xchat was part of the default install :/
[04:24] <hajuu> except the server install maybe
[04:24] <directhex|work> xchat-gnome is
[04:24] <hajuu> ah.
[04:24] <redrum> once you open up your repositories it is
[04:25] <g-nome> anyone using xgl+compiz?
[04:25] <g-nome> if yes, does it also crash a LOT (or strange behaviour sometimes)?
[04:25] <extern> Is there a way to make ubuntu to distribute the network speeds for all applications a little more equally? The first application gets highest speeds.
[04:25] <hajuu> Whenever I try to load xdm or gdm I get the message: "Could not open default font 'fixed' ".. but I cant find any xfonts package like that.. any ideas?
[04:26] <Healot> extern: can you do load balancing?
[04:26] <extern> Healot: I don't know what this is :P
[04:26] <g-nome> xgl anyone?
[04:26] <tr00st> g-nome, I'm using it
[04:27] <ocx32> whats the default passsword for root
[04:27] <extern> Healot, how to make that load balancing?
[04:27] <tr00st> doesn't seem to have too many problems, but I've only been using it for a couple of days
[04:27] <freakabcd> ocx32, there is none!
[04:27] <void^> ubotu: tell ocx32 about root
[04:27] <g-nome> tr00st: does it also crash a LOT (or strange behaviour sometimes)?
[04:27] <tr00st> doesn't seem to
[04:27] <g-nome> tr00st: form dapper repos?
[04:27] <ocx32> i didnt provide any password
[04:27] <luca__> udev is causing a lot of problems in ubuntu, with regard to /dev/null being not writeable. x does not start. how to fix this?
[04:27] <tr00st> believe so, I'll just check
[04:27] <babo> when I double click on the downloaded torrent files it tells me that their extension says they are bittorrent seed files, but the contents is in plain text. Am I downloading them using the wrong mime or something ? I'm just going to pirate bay and pressing download ..
[04:27] <Zambezi> How can I remove hx1 and hdx2 in the terminal? Hdx1 is 40 MB so I guess the rest is on hdx2? I don't understand the application so please just tell me how I can erase them so I get one partion instead of two?
[04:28] <bullium> I've got a small issue, my rig is a Dell latitude c610 running 6.06, I am getting strange dots on my buttons? I was wondering if it was a radeon video card issue?
[04:28] <g-nome> tr00st: what does happen, when you minimize a window?
[04:28] <bullium> when I over my mouse on them they go away
[04:28] <d34db14ck> my p2p program downloads with a very small rate. can i configure it somehow or can i get another one?
[04:28] <tr00st> g-nome, it zooms down in a funky way, doesn't seem to have any problem
[04:28] <ocx32> is ubuntu good to be used as a serveR?
[04:29] <daqing>     kenSentMe,can i speak to u seperately
[04:29] <luca__> hmmm any idea? anyone?
[04:29] <babo> how do i turn off iptables ? ... they don't seem to have init scripts ... /etc/init.d/iptables stop ... ??
[04:29] <tr00st> and yeah, think it's out of multiverse or something
[04:29] <g-nome> tr00st: zooms down to the bar? For me, it simply disappears? i don't know where!?
[04:29] <freakabcd> ocx32, question to ponder over: Why do they want to provide 5 yrs server support?
[04:29] <tr00st> hm, weird
[04:29] <Fjodor> ocx32: I think, with this release, they made a specific server install CD
[04:30] <tr00st> g-nome, does it show up on alt-tab?
[04:30] <rubso> guys, is there a way to play "mms" protocol ?
[04:30] <jenny_> does anyone know where the keyboard modules are stored for xorg.conf after upgrade i can't load them :(
[04:30] <daqing> i am still puzzled after i read the info in the forums
[04:30] <g-nome> tr00st: not every time
[04:30] <Tobberoth> Wow, it worked.
[04:30] <g-nome> tr00st:  when you minimize, where does the window go TO ?
[04:30] <Tobberoth> I guess that hour of xchat compiling i spent yesterday was sorta wasted >_>
[04:30] <tr00st> it goes down to the bar at the bottom of the screen
[04:31] <ocx32> i wanna run apache on it
[04:31] <ocx32> and mysql
[04:31] <d34db14ck> any one knows of a bit torrent like client for ubuntu?
[04:31] <ocx32> is it good?
[04:31] <ocx32> i am a slackware user
[04:31] <hajuu> Whenever I try to load xdm or gdm I get the message: "Could not open default font 'fixed' ".. but I cant find any xfonts package like that.. any ideas?
[04:31] <jameyg> ocx32: you want to run Apache and MySQL on Ubuntu?
[04:31] <ocx32> yea
[04:31] <g-nome> d34db14ck: azureus?
[04:31] <d34db14ck> g-nome:  ok thanx
[04:32] <jameyg> ocx32: yeah it's the perfect platform IMO for hosting, but I recommend doing a server install for a production server.
[04:32] <g-nome> tr00st:  when you minimize, where does the window go to?
[04:32] <jameyg> ocx32: you can just "sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server"
[04:32] <Tobberoth> What do I need to create, compile and start java applications in Ubuntu?
[04:32] <d34db14ck> can i mount ntfs partition under ubuntu?
[04:32] <jameyg> g-nome: just like in win32, the window sits in the taskbar at the bottom of the screen
[04:32] <Healot> Tobberoth: JDK, maybe an IDE?
[04:32] <void^> !ntfs
[04:32] <tr00st> g-nome, it goes down to the window list at the bottom of my screen
[04:32] <ubotu> to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions there is no write support for ntfs that is safe. <!winfstab>
[04:33] <Waerner> d34db14ck, yes :)
[04:33] <tr00st> zooms down towards its button
[04:33] <ocx32> can i do a server install now that i installed the system?
[04:33] <Healot> !java
[04:33] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:33] <ocx32> can i reinstall them?
[04:33] <Tobberoth> Healot, what kind of JDK? Can I just download from Suns website, or should I use the package manager?
[04:33] <d34db14ck> but then i can't write on it?
[04:33] <Waerner> d34db14ck, that's right
[04:33] <jameyg> ocx32: I think you can remove ubuntu-desktop and that might do it.
[04:33] <Healot> follow that link, Tobberoth
[04:33] <Tobberoth> allright, thanks
[04:33] <d34db14ck> Waerner: crap :P
[04:33] <Waerner> d34db14ck, yeah, it is :P
[04:34] <g-nome> tr00st: hmm, it does not work for me !? Also sometimes a little window pops out where i can some windows in it, do you have the same?
[04:34] <d34db14ck> Waerner:  so how can i download files bigger than 4g?
[04:34] <method|> anyone know how to make the screen brighter in linux? My screen just isnt as bright as it is in Xp
[04:34] <daqing> kenSentMe, can u give me any further infomation?
[04:34] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: Which filesystems don't allow that?
[04:34] <tr00st> g-nome, don't think so, haven't had anything that fits that description
[04:34] <jameyg> g-nome: are you even running GNOME?
[04:34] <d34db14ck> Fjodor:  fat 32 lol
[04:34] <d34db14ck> should i make them linux
[04:34] <d34db14ck> ?
[04:34] <Waerner> d34db14ck, but I think you can write on FAT32, so if you have a hdd that you want to access from both Win and Linux, you might convert it to FAT32 or something else that's compatible
[04:35] <d34db14ck> Waerner:  yeah but i can't download games bigger than 4g on fat
[04:35] <Healot> FAT32 gives the most compat, but the least secure FS ever
[04:35] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: Make it ext3 or reiserfs. There are windows drivers for those, though I haven't got any experience with them
[04:35] <Healot> FAT32 file limit is 4GB. d34db14ck
[04:35] <g-nome> d34db14ck: actually, you can
[04:35] <johnnowak> d34db14ck: why not use ntfs?
[04:35] <g-nome> with azureus, there's a special option for this
[04:35] <jameyg> d34db14ck: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[04:36] <d34db14ck> Fjodor:  i run linux/windoze now but once i get myself going on linux i will sht on windoze
[04:36] <void^> g-nome: no, you cannot
[04:36] <d34db14ck> so does linux FS alow files larger than 4g?
[04:36] <Healot> d34db14ck: btw third party FS driver, use at own risk
[04:36] <Healot> d34db14ck: yes
[04:36] <Samuli^> I don't think there's windows drivers for ext3. Ext2 is supported though.
[04:36] <directhex|work> d34db14ck, all linux file systems do, yes
[04:36] <daqing> does anyone ever meet a "error 17" after installing the ubuntu 6 in a single harddisk?
[04:36] <d34db14ck> Healot: thanx dude
[04:36] <jameyg> Healot: isn't pretty much everything "third party"? ;)
[04:36] <Waerner> daqing, GRUB ERROR 17?
[04:36] <daqing> yes
[04:37] <g-nome> tr00st: which graphic card do you use?
[04:37] <johnnowak> d34db14ck: why can't you use NTFS... ?
[04:37] <Waerner> daqing, yes I have. But I reinstalled the OS... And that solved it...
[04:37] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: Samuli^ might be right about ext3, but reiserfs should be the way to go then
[04:37] <Healot> jameyg: don't have to be pretty, third party refers to non-ubuntu apps/driver etc
[04:37] <tr00st> g-nome, got a geforce fx5700le
[04:37] <slackern> I just download things on my ext3 partition and read from it only when im using windows.
[04:37] <d34db14ck> johnnowak: i can't install win xp on my machine because of hardware issues so w98 is the only way
[04:37] <johnnowak> d34db14ck: ah, got it.
[04:37] <Waerner> daqing, perhaps you can re-install GRUB only?
[04:38] <daqing> Waerne, i reinstalled the os also,but the problem continued
[04:38] <d34db14ck> johnnowak:  so in ex2 2 ther's no problem right?
[04:38] <tr00st> g-nome, running the nvidia-glx drivers too, if that's relevant
[04:38] <g-nome> tr00st: aha nivia, ok, that explains everything :-) fit DOES WORK correctly... for ati it's not the case
[04:38] <johnnowak> d34db14ck: i know nothing about windows :)
[04:38] <tr00st> ah
[04:38] <Waerner> daqing, did you overwrite the old MBR?
[04:38] <Healot> ext2 is prone to crashes :-
[04:38] <d34db14ck> johnnowak:  good for you :D
[04:38] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: ext2 isn't journaling, which you may want
[04:38] <tr00st> g-nome, presume you're ati then?
[04:38] <Waerner> I think the problem is located there
[04:38] <tatra> Can anyone help me with formatting a hard drive? I tried to install fedora but now want to install ubuntu over the entire thing but cannot format the partition
[04:38] <jameyg> Healot: ah right, gotcha
[04:39] <daqing> i do not have other os in my harddisk ,
[04:39] <g-nome> tr00st: guessed right :-) and i'm NOT satisfied :-(
[04:39] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: reiser is, is mightily well supported on Linux, and there are drivers for win
[04:39] <Waerner> tatra: You can format it before installing Ubuntu with the Ubuntu Installation CD
[04:39] <d34db14ck> once i figure how to download iso bigger that 4g and burn them on dvd windoze is gone
[04:39] <tr00st> :(
[04:39] <johnnowak> d34db14ck: Just use win32 for transfers. You can always break down files into chunks and reassemble them if you have files bigger than 4GB. Seems safe enough... The less drivers to install on Windows, the better.
[04:39] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: Why not burn i Linux?
[04:39] <idefix> in what file is all the mountingbootupinfo displayed?
[04:39] <Akuma_> do they already ship the dapper from shipit?
[04:40] <Healot> d34db14ck: you can split the DVD file to smaller pieces..
[04:40] <tr00st> g-nome, I had an ati card before... switched to nvidia mainly for linux compatibility... seems like it paid off
[04:40] <nil> hello ubuntu-people!
[04:40] <daqing> Waerne , i once use " fdisk /mbr" before installing the ubuntu
[04:40] <Healot> Akuma_: they did
[04:40] <d34db14ck> Fjodor:  i'm a noob :)
[04:40] <Waerner> daqing, hmm, is the system installed recently? I mean, did the error appear directly after the installation?
[04:40] <g-nome> tr00st: i got their drivers working, even high FPS, BUT a LOT of bugs and incompabilities
[04:40] <d34db14ck> 2 days of ubuntu
[04:40] <tatra> Waerner: That's what I'm trying but when I look in gparted it says the partition is not readable
[04:40] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: Shouldn't matter much
[04:40] <daqing> Waerne,yeah
[04:40] <nil> could someone suggest a good newsreader in console mode?
[04:40] <e-head> Is there a tool that can check out a disk to see if it's okay ? Do a sector by sector disk check, or something along those lines ?
[04:40] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: k3b is very easy to use
[04:40] <tr00st> g-nome, not much you can do about that, I guess... hope you don't have too many problems in future
[04:40] <nil> e-head: fsck ?
[04:40] <Healot> good old mutt or pine (even though pine is not free)
[04:40] <Kyral_FreeBSD> k3b is OWNAGE
[04:41] <nil> e-head: or badblocks
[04:41] <e-head> nil: well, there is no file system on the disk.
[04:41] <Waerner> daqing, I never used fdisk...
[04:41] <daqing> after rebooting from the harddisk\
[04:41] <e-head> ahh. thanks.
[04:41] <Akuma_> Healot: they have this message on the shipit page about how dapper will start shipping in early june .. it doesnt specify what version they are currently shipping though ...
[04:41] <nil> e-head: badblocks then
[04:41] <d34db14ck> Fjodor: all i need is music(check) movies( kinda ok) and download and burning . if i get this upi don't need dual OS and drivers for stuph and transfer
[04:41] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Healot: MuttNG is a lot more fun than Mutt
[04:41] <Kyral_FreeBSD> e-head: badblocks....takes a LONG time
[04:41] <Healot> Akuma_: they SHIP DApper
[04:41] <daqing> Waerne ,so what should i do now ?
[04:41] <Waerner> tatra: Are you able to delete the partition entirely?
[04:41] <nil> e-head: but fsck also has a sector-check option
[04:41] <g-nome> tr00st: how do you configure you compiz? via gconf-tools?
[04:41] <johnnowak> Healot: And I prefer mutt to muttng. Take your pick. :)
[04:41] <Kyral_FreeBSD> e-head: If you do the Read-Write test
[04:41] <Healot> FINAL release of Dapper: Akuma_
[04:41] <e-head> Kyral_FreeBSD: is there a better tool ?
[04:41] <tr00st> g-nome, indeed
[04:41] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: k3b is seriously your friend for burning. sudo apt-get install k3b to get it
[04:41] <Healot> as i said good old mutt
[04:42] <e-head> I have reason to think this disk may have some bad sectors.
[04:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> nil: fsck's badblock checker calls badblocks :P
[04:42] <Akuma_> Healot: thanks..
[04:42] <Samuli^> Healot, What's so final about it? :)
[04:42] <nil> Kyral_FreeBSD: ok :)
[04:42] <Waerner> daqing, when the problem appeard to me, I booted from the CD and re-installed it, using the wizard, BUT with advanced options in the partition-part
[04:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Healot: I prefer MuttNG
[04:42] <michelinux> Helo
[04:42] <tuxadmin> Hi there
[04:42] <Waerner> daqing, that allows you to manually set up your partitions
[04:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Healot: Ditches the depend on Sendmail or Fetchmail
[04:42] <Healot> mutt sounds better :)
[04:42] <tatra> Waerner: nope, I tried the installer on the live CD to partition the entire hard drive but it crashes
[04:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Healot: It IS mutt
[04:42] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: But it needs kde libs, so it might ask to download and install quite a few things. That isn't a problem, though
[04:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Healot: Just the Next Generation :P
[04:42] <Healot> mutt - > dog
[04:43] <Waerner> tatra: Have you tried a real installation CD?
[04:43] <Healot> muttNG - mutt NO GOOD hehe
[04:43] <nil> Healot: good old mutt, for the news? there's not a better news-only soft?
[04:43] <majd> Hi
[04:43] <Healot> bleh
[04:43] <daqing> Waerne , what do u mean ?
[04:43] <chapium> how is mutt different from pine?
[04:43] <nil> hehe
[04:43] <tuxadmin> Is GRUB re-install when upgrading kernel through the updater ?? ( because I don't want to replace my actual /dev/hda mbr
[04:43] <daqing> i did not follow u
[04:43] <nil> chapium: <troll> mutt is free </troll>
[04:43] <Kyral_FreeBSD> chapium: FSF free? :P
[04:43] <majd>  is it at all possible to mount my Dell Axim X51v PDA running windows mobile 5 under ubuntu? I"m only interested in mounting it, i don't need to sync it
[04:43] <d34db14ck> Fjodor:  well i'll figure it out eventually. i've installed a few progs. still need some p2p client and how to burn stuph
[04:43] <Kyral_FreeBSD> majd: prolly
[04:43] <Healot> but since there is GNOmE/Kubuntu
[04:44] <Kyral_FreeBSD> It might even automount
[04:44] <Waerner> daqing, just boot from the installation CD, like always. And when the installation options for the harddrives appear, choose the expert mode
[04:44] <daqing> Waerne , sorry for my poor english, i am a chinese
[04:44] <Juhaz> nil, slrn is pretty good
[04:44] <majd> Kyral_FreeBSD, i can't find ANYTHING on it though
[04:44] <Healot> i pprefer Thunderbird/Evolution
[04:44] <Kyral_FreeBSD> majd: Dunno
[04:44] <nil> Juhaz: thanks
[04:44] <Samuli^> d34db14ck, you can burn stuff with your file manager (nautilus)
[04:44] <vincenz> Does anyone know a stopwatch utility that integrates tightly into gnome, so that I can just press a key-combo to have it start
[04:44] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Healot: Kontact FTW
[04:44] <tatra> Waerner: No, is that my only choise? Downloading an install CD... :( I can't see a reason for this not working, the rest of the live CD is fine
[04:44] <toxic_> Does X have specific settings for displaying keyaboard language, or where can I conf that?
[04:45] <Zaggynl> Hi, I've tried some googling, but does anyone know of a guide on how to set up a caching dns server with ubuntu server?
[04:45] <Healot> xorg.conf, toxic_
[04:45] <iiiears> I need help applying a patch to my favorite app. Is there a link to a good tutorial?
[04:45] <daqing> Waerne ,and then?
[04:45] <toxic_> Healot, k thx
[04:45] <extern> How to fix this error? configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:45] <Waerner> tatra: I don't know for sure... Perhaps the live CD doesn't allow you to edit the boot records? I'm not sure :-/
[04:45] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: Well, happy learning to you. Gotta read up for an exam now, but as you are in the process of, you'll find people in here most helpful :-)
[04:46] <steina1> Simple question: When will firefox <IP_ADDRESS> be available from apt-get?
[04:46] <Waerner> daqing, and then you are able to delete and create new partitions, and set their size etc
[04:46] <Healot> extern: you might want to prepend sudo
[04:46] <sharky__> if i can't find a version of software which meant for ubuntu is it ok to get the Debian Woody version?
[04:46] <d34db14ck> Fjodor:  thanx. good luck to u and me in exams . see ya laterz
[04:46] <directhex|work> sharky__, unlikely. what's the software?
[04:46] <oezguer> hi
[04:46] <Fjodor> d34db14ck: thanks. You too
[04:46] <extern> this is the line I wrote: sudo apt-get -b source wine
[04:46] <Samuli^> sharky__, probably no.
[04:46] <tatra> Waerner: hmm... the partition in question is set as boot. I guess I'l just have to try an install CD
[04:46] <iiiears> Fjodor - This channel is one of Ubuntus lesser talked about great features. :)
[04:46] <daqing> Waerne , i use this method the first time i installed the ubuntu
[04:46] <sharky__> Samuli^, valknut
[04:46] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Yes
[04:46] <Tobberoth> I have 140gb free unpartitioned space on my harddrive.. how do I make it a FAT32 partition, using Ubuntu?
[04:47] <Tobberoth> I have Windows on the primary partition, so nothing too fancy ;(
[04:47] <Samuli^> sharky__, can't you compile it from source?
[04:47] <sharky__> Samuli^, there is source so i could just build it i guess
[04:47] <Waerner> tatra, yeah, it might work, but as I said, I can't understand why you can't make the changes with a Live CD :-/
[04:47] <sharky__> eayh
[04:47] <sharky__> yeah
[04:47] <Waerner> tatra, sorry :(
[04:47] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/<device node>
[04:47] <Samuli^> sharky__, that would be the preferred method.
[04:47] <steina1> Tobberoth: Install gparted or qtparted
[04:47] <Waerner> daqing, same error then?
[04:47] <sharky__> Samuli^, got it thanks.
[04:47] <daqing> Waerne ,yeah
[04:47] <Kyral_FreeBSD> steina1: The command is quicker :P
[04:47] <ToHellWithGA> Tobberoth: you could also use ext2 with ext2fsd in windows
[04:47] <Kyral_FreeBSD> NO!!!
[04:48] <tatra> Waerner: poop, thanks for trying though.  I have some problem with gnome cd-rom management
[04:48] <daqing> it is hda3
[04:48] <jameyg> m6s: hello
[04:48] <Kyral_FreeBSD> I consider those things as stable as Captive NTFS
[04:49] <m6s> I saw that 6.06 is out, can I do an upgrade without downloading the ISO?
[04:49] <Kyral_FreeBSD> FAT32 works, we know it works
[04:49] <Kyral_FreeBSD> m6s: yes
[04:49] <KenSentMe> !tell m6s about upgrade
[04:49] <m6s> apt-get dist-upgrade would do the job? What steps should I take?
[04:49] <ToHellWithGA> it works.  it just needs defraggling occasionally
[04:49] <majd> anyone experienced with pocket pc's here?
[04:49] <ToHellWithGA> m6s: don't forget the "sudo" ;)
[04:49] <Waerner> daqing, I'm afraid I don't have any answers left then... that's how I solved it :-/
[04:49] <Tobberoth> what is the linux text command to start a program? I've tried sudo geparted
[04:49] <Kyral_FreeBSD> m6s: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all "breezy" to "dapper"
[04:49] <extern> this is a more detailed error message: http://pastebin.com/762430
[04:49] <daqing> Waerne , thank anyway
[04:49] <ToHellWithGA> Tobberoth: which program?
[04:49] <Tobberoth> geparted
[04:49] <tatra> Waerner: Righty-ho, thanks for your time anyway
[04:49] <m6s> yio! only this change? :-) ouaou!
[04:49] <Kyral_FreeBSD> m6s: save and then do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[04:49] <ToHellWithGA> you might need to get it
[04:50] <Kyral_FreeBSD> m6s: anf then PRAY on the reboot :P
[04:50] <ToHellWithGA> Tobberoth: "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[04:50] <CokeNCode> ok, i just did apt-get install blackbox
[04:50] <Waerner> tatra, no problem, good luck :)
[04:50] <Tobberoth> No, I have just installed it
[04:50] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: I gave you the command
[04:50] <m6s> :-)
[04:50] <CokeNCode> will it now be my default windows manager ?
[04:50] <Waerner> daqing, check this out :)   http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=120802
[04:50] <hajuu> Whenever I try to load xdm or gdm I get the message: "Could not open default font 'fixed' ".. but I cant find any xfonts package like that.. any ideas?
[04:50] <Tobberoth> and just geparted in the terminal sorta works
[04:50] <ToHellWithGA> if you type gparted it should work
[04:50] <m6s> I am doing right now, in the case of nvidia, it's gonna be all ok?
[04:50] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: What is the name of the drive? /dev/what?
[04:50] <jameyg> Kyral_FreeBSD: have you tried using -- gksudo "update-manager d" -- it works!
[04:50] <toxic_> Healot, I can only see different fonts in xorg.conf, not how I can specify my keyboard layout in X.
[04:50] <m6s> what is the command to enter in grub in console? DOes anyone know?
[04:50] <ocx32> where can i add ssh service
[04:50] <ocx32> in the gui ?
[04:50] <chapium> CokeNCode: it will show up as a session in gdm
[04:50] <Kyral_FreeBSD> jameyg: One I don't use Ubuntu anymore
[04:50] <Tobberoth> /dev/sda
[04:51] <jameyg> Kyral_FreeBSD: and two? ;)O
[04:51] <Kyral_FreeBSD> jameyg: Two when I did, I was a command line junkie :D
[04:51] <jameyg> :D
[04:51] <ToHellWithGA> i thought the FreeBSD in your name was a joke...
[04:51] <extern> has anyone compiled wine?
[04:51] <m6s> because I am afraid nvidia will cause a pain in the ass during the restart
[04:51] <Healot> did you see the "us" in Keyboard section
[04:51] <ToHellWithGA> extern: i didn't have to compile it
[04:51] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: okay, do this "sudo mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sda"
[04:51] <daqing> does anyone have any information  about the " grub error 17"
[04:51] <ToHellWithGA> extern: it's available through apt or synaptic
[04:51] <jameyg> just the update-manager actually downloads an official upgrade app that gives GUI-lovers proper progress
[04:51] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: oh wait you need to make a partition first
[04:51] <Tobberoth> won't that make all of sda into FAT32?
[04:51] <Tobberoth> Yeah
[04:51] <CokeNCode> chapium ... ok ... thanks ... trying to figure out how that will work. But I guess I'll see when I get home.
[04:51] <extern> ToHellWithGA, but it can't find 64 package
[04:51] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: Didn't you want to?
[04:51] <extern> ToHellWithGA, so I probably have to compile it myself
[04:51] <toxic_> How can I specify my keyboard layout in X (not font) ?
[04:52] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: I want to make an ew partition out of the free space
[04:52] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: CFDisk :D
[04:52] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Then make it FAT32
[04:52] <Healot> change that to your keyboard... toxic_, anyways easier to do it with "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:52] <mpeters> I need some help with installing wallpapers/Themes......and where to get wallpapers??
[04:52] <Healot> or any other GUI tool
[04:52] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: First you need to make the physical partition, then you need to apply the FS
[04:52] <ToHellWithGA> extern: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97026 might help.  have you tried compiling it yet?
[04:52] <bienc> mpeters, http://www.deviantart.com has lots and lots of wallpapers. :)
[04:52] <capiCrimm> umm... I'm getting russian characters in gnome-terminal?
[04:52] <Fjodor> iiiears: #ubuntu is indeed one of the greater "assets" :-)
[04:52] <Tobberoth> Yeah, I guess, but how do I make the physical partition?
[04:52] <toxic_> Healot, ok I\ll read on the documentation on that one then :)
[04:52] <chapium> mpeters: deviantart.com, art.gnome.org
[04:52] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: cfdisk is a console based partitioner with a nice GUI
[04:52] <ron_o> mpeters, tjhere are dozens of sites out there for linux wallpapers and themes.
[04:52] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: sudo cfdisk /dev/sda
[04:52] <ron_o> please do a search for them.
[04:52] <extern> ToHellWithGA, the way I found on wine download page
[04:53] <Tobberoth> ah, I'm scared of console >_> but I'll try
[04:53] <ron_o> !themes
[04:53] <extern> http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[04:53] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Okej, I'm in, hold on
[04:53] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: It ain't scary! Someone dig up my old Terminal For Beginners on UbuntuForums
[04:53] <ron_o> ubotu> I heard themes is try installing gnome-art (sudo apt-get install gnome-art) and running it from System -> Preferences -> Art Manager (On Dapper). It downloads and installs themes from http://art.gnome.org/ Some other sites with various themes include: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[04:53] <ubotu> ron_o: I think you lost me on that one
[04:53] <Tobberoth> Yeah, I can see the free space.. now let's see
[04:53] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: use the arrow keys to select "New"
[04:54] <Kyral_FreeBSD> I mean its quite nicely laid out if you ask me
[04:54] <ozgur> how can i unistall and than install XMMS? thanx
[04:54] <suarta> ciao everybody
[04:54] <Kyral_FreeBSD> ozgur: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xmms
[04:54] <rapha> Hi all!
[04:54] <ToHellWithGA> ozgur: sudo apt-get remove --purge xmms
[04:54] <ozgur> KYRAL: thanx
[04:54] <rapha> Anybody try the new MacBook yet? -- Does it run Dapper?
[04:54] <ToHellWithGA> then sudo apt-get install xmms
[04:54] <Syndrome> Hey, um, could I get some help with Dapper Drake? Like, with installing it?
[04:55] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Wow, it was really easy to use! I think I've made it into a logical partition now
[04:55] <ToHellWithGA> Kyral: does reinstall do a purge?
[04:55] <schizoschaf> hi
[04:55] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Now, how do I make it FAT32?
[04:55] <Kyral_FreeBSD> ToHellWithGA: Nope
[04:55] <ozgur> purge? what is it?
[04:55] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: remember that command I gave earlier?
[04:55] <schizoschaf> is there a way to undo an accidental rm *.*
[04:55] <ron_o> Syndrome, what problem are you having?
[04:55] <ToHellWithGA> cleans everything that xmms was using off
[04:55] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD:  Well.. no >_>
[04:55] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: sudo mkfs.vfat -F /dev/sda1
[04:55] <schizoschaf> if nothing happened afterwards
[04:55] <rapha> schizoschaf: Nope. Unless, maybe, when you're on ext2 and got some ext2 undelete program installed. No idea what it's called.
[04:55] <mpeters> thanks all
[04:55] <ron_o> schizoschaf, not on ext3 as far as I know.
[04:55] <capiCrimm> No one knows how to change the gnome-terminal language? I'd look in man
[04:55] <Kyral_FreeBSD> schizoschaf: if nothing happened, then you are safe (especially if you did it without root)
[04:56] <ToHellWithGA> it gets more of the space used by xmms back.  i guess it's not necessary if you'll be putting it right back.  have you tried quod libet?
[04:56] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: But I should put sda8 insted of sda, right? To show which partition
[04:56] <m6s> is it safe enough for 64bit to upgrade, or has there any report been seen, that says anything odd?
[04:56] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: if thats what it is called
[04:56] <phaidros> hi, how to configure acpt to set cpufreq-selector on bat/AC ?
[04:56] <Syndrome> My computer (a laptop with AMD 64) can read the disc just fine, but when I choose to install, I get an error and the screen goes blank.
[04:56] <phaidros> acpi
[04:56] <Tobberoth> Yeah, it says so under Name in cfdisk
[04:56] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: to check, pull sudo fdisk -l
[04:56] <schizoschaf> it was not as root... only contents of one folder lost on ext3
[04:56] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: then use that :D
[04:56] <daqing> ToHellWithGA, sorry to trouble u , do u have any information about the " grub error 17"?
[04:56] <Syndrome> "agpgart: Aperture conflicts with PCI mapping"
[04:56] <ToHellWithGA> daqing: naw man.  i don't know grub
[04:56] <ron_o> Syndrome, did you burn his CD?
[04:57] <Kyral_FreeBSD> schizoschaf: you CAN technically get it back, but not without those high end data recovery things
[04:57] <ToHellWithGA> i haven't toyed with a bootloader in ages
[04:57] <tuxtheslacker> hey, I know this is the wrong room, but it's somewhat related ot linux.... I found an error in digg, how would I report it?
[04:57] <schizoschaf> shit
[04:57] <Kyral_FreeBSD> tuxtheslacker: dig or digg :P
[04:57] <tuxtheslacker> digg.com* please don't kick me for spamming, I'm asking where I'd go.
[04:57] <tuxtheslacker> like what room to go to*
[04:57] <Kyral_FreeBSD> schizoschaf: This is why it pays to be attentive!
[04:58] <ToHellWithGA> tuxtheslacker: a room in which people do not end sentences in prepositions :p
[04:58] <Kyral_FreeBSD> schizoschaf: Friends don't let friends be root while drunk!
[04:58] <schizoschaf> righ Kyral_FreeBSD :/
[04:58] <Syndrome> ron_o: Yes, I downloaded the .iso on BitTorrent.
[04:58] <rapha> tuxadmin: no idea what digg is, but ... tried #digg?
[04:58] <ron_o> but did you check the CD for faults?
[04:58] <schizoschaf> i wasnt root Kyral_FreeBSD
[04:58] <m6s> guys? Abiword-plugins are supposed to be REMOVED? and not upgrade?
[04:58] <ron_o> you iso might be all and well but your burn might not be.
[04:58] <ToHellWithGA> tuxtheslacker: http://digg.com/bugreport
[04:58] <Kyral_FreeBSD> schizoschaf: was a joke
[04:58] <schizoschaf> k
[04:58] <ToHellWithGA> it's not necessary a "website bug" but it's an error on the site
[04:58] <phaidros> acpi and cpufreq-selector? how to do? put script in /etc/acpi/battery.d/ ?
[04:58] <Kyral_FreeBSD> m6s: I dunno, just go along with it
[04:58] <tuxtheslacker> ToHellWithGA, thank you
[04:58] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: did it work?
[04:59] <Syndrome> I tried to do that first, but it does the same thing as if I tried to install it. Gives me the "agpgart" message and goes blank.
[04:59] <m6s> I saw and some gnome-vfs and gnomemm staff?
[04:59] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: When writing the partitiontable to disk, I got an error
[04:59] <babo> I don't get bittorrent ... I really don't. I connect everything and it seems to work fine, then i go to some of the larger torrent search engine and I download the most popular and healthy torrents ... and all I get are corrupted files and connection refused errors from the trackers ? ... am i missing something here ... ?
[04:59] <m6s> mysterious...
[04:59] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: It told me to reboot
[04:59] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: pastebin it
[04:59] <Syndrome> Unless there's some way to check the CD for defects in Windows, I don't know what to do.
[04:59] <ozgur> HELP:( my cam doesnt work at aMSN  cos behind router or firewall, but i opened the ports :(  and i dont have firewall program, or does ubuntu have firewall?
[04:59] <ron_o> Syndrome, ....
[04:59] <m6s> babo->NAT and port opening?
[04:59] <rapha> Syndrome: look for "md5sum win32" with google
[04:59] <ron_o> Syndrome, Oh, I though you were on linux.
[05:00] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> Hi, Everyone. I've got a laptop here which supposedly has 1024 MiB memory, but the System Monitor only shows a total of 883.5 MiB. Any idea how I can activate the remainder?
[05:00] <ron_o> when you boot I think there is an option to check the CD, right?
[05:00] <Tobberoth> what is pastebin? It simply says it wrote it but can't list it.. or something
[05:00] <Kyral_FreeBSD> !tell Tobberoth about pastebin
[05:00] <HymnToLife> Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> shared memory GFX ?
[05:00] <Syndrome> Thanks. No, I'm running XP now. Yes, it's the fourth or fifth option, but it just goes blank after it unpacks the kernel and gives me that message.
[05:00] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: its a place were you paste the error so others can look at it
[05:00] <babo> m6s: I'm running in the dmz with iptables off ...
[05:01] <Kyral_FreeBSD> and I'll brb, I need to hit the can
[05:01] <ron_o> it sounds like a bad burn..
[05:01] <rapha> SO
[05:01] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Oh, I see.. Anyway, it seems to be working now, the partition is listen with the fdisk -l command
[05:01] <rapha> Anybody got the new MacBook yet?
[05:01] <Tobberoth> rapha: I'm buying it :)
[05:01] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> HymnToLife: What do you mean? 1024 MiB is meant to be my total RAM - I'm not sure if/how much is meant to be shared with graphics card. Is there a way to see this?
[05:01] <ozgur> KYRAL_: i did it , but i click XMMsS , and it doesnt open  :(
[05:01] <dusty> misfit_toy: you around?
[05:01] <ToHellWithGA> rapha: the non-pro?  the price is right on the one with the DVD+-RW drive
[05:02] <phaidros> anybody acpi & cpufreq-selector connected?
[05:02] <rapha> ToHellWithGA: ya, the non-pro, black-or-white one. I'm considering buying the black one.
[05:02] <ToHellWithGA> Fujitsu_AMILO_A1: does your computer have onboard video?
[05:02] <brsseb> anyone here a xorg.conf-guru? im having serious problems getting my monitor to work in dapper
[05:02] <ToHellWithGA> rapha: that's so hardcore, a black computer
[05:02] <janks> !scanner
[05:02] <ubotu> For scanners in Ubuntu, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[05:02] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: I tried the mkfs thing.. it gave me the error Bad FAT type:
[05:02] <rapha> ToHellWithGA: well, it's also the fastest. Costs about 1500 in Europe.
[05:03] <Syndrome> ron_o: I'll try making a new CD, but I'm on dial-up so I have to go to a friend's house or something to download it, so it's inconvenient.
[05:03] <ron_o> Syndrome, no, your download may be fine.
[05:03] <ron_o> md5sum your download.
[05:03] <ToHellWithGA> Syndrome: are you in atlanta?  i could bring you a CD
[05:03] <phaidros> or just order ?
[05:03] <brsseb> if anyone know, plz take a moment and look on my VGA-problem. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=181571
[05:03] <ron_o> or you could order a CD for $3 or $4..
[05:04] <rapha> ToHellWithGA: any idea whether the x86 macs run Ubuntu?
[05:04] <KenSentMe> How can i keep Ubuntu from showing all partitions on the desktop?
[05:04] <ron_o> for XP I believe you can use a program called MD5Summer.
[05:04] <Syndrome> ron_o: The download's actually not on my computer. -_- I did have Breezy shipped to me, but it took a long time to get here from France.
[05:04] <ron_o> oh, sorry.
[05:04] <Kyral_FreeBSD> back
[05:04] <frank_b> what mount point do I choose in the "manully edit partition table" option for a windows xp partition in order to keep my dual boot while installing dapper?
[05:04] <Syndrome> ToHellWithGA: Thanks for the offer, but I'm a good deal south of Atlanta.
[05:04] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: I get Bad FAT type: /dev/sda8
[05:04] <ToHellWithGA> rapha: http://desrt.mcmaster.ca/macbook.xhtml looks like it kinda works
[05:05] <HymnToLife> Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> in the BIOS
[05:05] <directhex|work> frank_, you don't need to touch it at all
[05:05] <loren_> hola
[05:05] <pools> hi
[05:05] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> ToHellWithGA: Not sure. I've got an ATI Radeon Express 200M graphics card. Is there a way I can tell if the memory is shared?
[05:05] <Tobberoth> I'm starting to think that unpartitioned free space is messed up somehow :(
[05:05] <Frogzoo> any ideas why taskjuggler exits without opening?
[05:05] <directhex|work> Fujitsu_AMILO_A1, it is. radeon express is onboard, so has shared ram.
[05:05] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: gimme a second
[05:05] <ToHellWithGA> Fujitsu_AMILO_A1: your BIOS might tell you
[05:05] <Syndrome> Well, I'll try making a new burn and seeing how far that gets me. Thanks for all your help.
[05:05] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: I prolly had the command wrong
[05:05] <ron_o> KenSentMe, try the configuration editor -- probably under Desktop.
[05:05] <frank_b> directhex|work, the install program complains I haven't choose a mount point and doesn't let me go on with the installation
[05:06] <FoolsRun> hi, I'm thinking about trying to run Pro/ENGINEER in a Linux environment and I'm wondering if anyone's had any luck doing so
[05:06] <directhex|work> frank_b, so pick anything. it is 100% unrelated to grub
[05:06] <KenSentMe> ron_o ok, thanx
[05:06] <frank_b> directhex|work, you sure it won't mess with my windows partition?
[05:06] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: Lemme reference the manpage
[05:07] <george_looney> !tell george_looney about upgrade
[05:07] <pools> does anybody know how to make konquerer the default file browser in gnome in 6.06 ?
[05:07] <rapha> Hey! 10 Dapper CDs won't be enough! Why did they take the arbitrary-numbers option out of ShipIt? That will never last in my shop till the next release...
[05:07] <Tobberoth> Sure
[05:07] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> ToHellWithGA, HymnToLife: Hmm, thanks. I've looked at my BIOS before and didn't notice anything; but then the BIOS is pretty basic. I'll have another look.
[05:07] <directhex|work> frank_b, unless you manually went in and said "format this partition"...
[05:07] <george_looney> rapha: You can email them about it
[05:08] <rapha> george_looney: will do
[05:08] <frank_b> directhex|work, ok. I can reinstall it anyway afterwards, since I don't have anything important in it. thanks very much for your help. :)
[05:08] <freemanen> How do get ubuntu on two screens?
[05:08] <ron_o> pools, that's a tough one. Possibly you could use the configuration editor... but it depends on what program you are using.
[05:08] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: seems stupid but try sudo mkfs.vfat -F32 -v /dev/sda8
[05:08] <ron_o> there are all kinds of conflicts for that.
[05:08] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> directhex|work - Really? Damn! I didn't notice anything about shared RAM when I was checking out the laptop in the shop. Ah, well, my fault, I suppose.
[05:08] <Tobberoth> okey, hold on
[05:08] <ron_o> !default
[05:08] <bobobo> does the server version of 6.06 have gnu desktop installed by default?
[05:08] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ron_o
[05:08] <nalioth> bobobo: no, it's console only, iirc
[05:08] <vladootz> i have just installed ubuntu 5.04 and, i don't get much with linux, i logged in. how do i run ubuntu desktop?
[05:09] <bobobo> that would explain my diufficulties :)
[05:09] <ToHellWithGA> bobobo: the server versions are stripped bare
[05:09] <bobobo> thanks
[05:09] <_chavo> freemanen, you have to edit your xorg.conf
[05:09] <ToHellWithGA> installing X and gnome from the console is painful
[05:09] <Hajuu> Hi. so, does anyone know why I might be getting the message that my default font "fixed" is missing? Also, why now that I managed to get gdm to run, my firefox still doesnt even have any text (font I guess)
[05:09] <Hajuu> any ideas??
[05:09] <directhex|work> vladootz, 1) why run a 1-year-old version? 2) logged in where? a text prompt? that suggests that your graphics hardware wasn't configured
[05:09] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: It responds with: /dev/sda8: No such file or directory
[05:09] <freemanen> chavo:how?
[05:09] <Tobberoth> but it's still listed with fdisk -l!
[05:09] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: hmm
[05:09] <KenSentMe> vladootz why have you installed 5.04? It's very old.
[05:09] <bobobo> for me, practically anything from the console ois painful
[05:09] <directhex|work> ToHellWithGA, "aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" is painful?
[05:10] <ToHellWithGA> directhex|work: that's hardly adding things to the server.  it's more like revamping the thing
[05:10] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: paste the output of sudo fdisk -l to pastebin please
[05:10] <nalioth> bobobo: at the console, type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"  if you want the standard ubuntu gnome desktop
[05:10] <Tobberoth> okej
[05:10] <directhex|work> ToHellWithGA, fine. use "xorg gnome". it's still far from difficult
[05:10] <Kyral_FreeBSD> and then give us the link here
[05:11] <ToHellWithGA> directhex|work: touch
[05:11] <vladootz> directhex|work i logged to the text promt i guess... it says "user@computername: ~$" and i can type commands... how do i go to ubuntu desktop?
[05:11] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> can anyone tell me how to change the uid on mounting an ntfs partition?
[05:11] <pools_> ron_o: the reason i am asking is because i need the mp3 tag list view and i cant seem to do that in nautilus. i want konquerer for just general file browsing and thats it
[05:11] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> i tried -o uid=1000 but that gave me an error
[05:11] <bobobo> thanks brothers (and any sisters), i'm working on it now
[05:11] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15195
[05:12] <Terminus> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hdXY /mnt/point
[05:12] <MEDVED> hi all!
[05:12] <directhex|work> vladootz, try "aptitude install ubuntu-desktop". you should never get a console prompt on a standard ubuntu installation, unless you don't have the desktop packages installed, or your hardware isn't configured correctly
[05:12] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> Terminus - umask?
[05:12] <Terminus> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: erm... prepend that with sudo. :)
[05:12] <Terminus> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: yep.
[05:12] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: But keep in mind, cfdisk gave me an error after writing the partition table
[05:12] <phaidros> too much traffic for me here. another channel with less people around?
[05:12] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: and sda8 is the new one?
[05:12] <Tobberoth> Yeah, sda8 is new
[05:12] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: it did? What was it?
[05:12] <MEDVED> Samantin
[05:13] <MEDVED> PREVED UCHASNEGI!!!!
[05:13] <Tobberoth> It said something like "Couldn't re-read" or something, hold on and I'll try again
[05:13] <ToHellWithGA> phaidros: if you ask your question somebody could PM with you until you get your answer
[05:13] <Samantin> phaidros  ,
[05:13] <profoXP> What does ubuntu use to suspend to disk ? swsusp or suspend2 or .. ?
[05:13] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> Terminus - no idea what umask is; but i'm in sudo interactive mode =P
[05:13] <MEDVED> phaidros=??????
[05:13] <Samantin> medved go atzigat ))
[05:13] <ToHellWithGA> MEDVED: this is the english channel.  there are other channels which deal with other languages
    !
[05:14] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: It says: "Wrote partition table, but re-read table failed. Reboot to update table."
[05:14] <Fujitsu_AMILO_A1> Can anyone recommend or otherwise suggest an application to view the memory allocation, and see how much is allocated to RAM and how much to graphics card?
[05:14] <grogoreo> hi
[05:14] <_chavo> freemanen, well to edit your xorg.conf is just gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:14] <Samantin> tak 4to zzoom )
[05:14] <MEDVED> AMERIKANCI EST"????
[05:14] <Terminus> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: oh... sorry... you meant uid? uid=foo. i'm used to giving out the usual umask reply because people get confused with ntfs perms. =D
[05:14] <profoXP> What does ubuntu use to suspend to disk ? swsusp or suspend2 or .. ?
[05:14] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: I think you should do that :D
[05:14] <_chavo> oh he didn't want to wait
[05:14] <Samantin> VSEM SAST'~
[05:14] <Samantin> SASAT
[05:14] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Allright, be right back :)
[05:14] <directhex|work> Fujitsu_AMILO_A1, that ought to be shown somewhere in Xorg.0.log
[05:14] <Kyral_FreeBSD> profoXP: ask in #ubuntu-devel
[05:14] <brandon_> i'm having cvs trouble
[05:14] <nalioth> Samantin: what language are you speaking?
[05:14] <Samantin> ahtungi gde suki?
[05:14] <MEDVED> SASAT" NEMERENNA I NI PADECKI LOXI!!!!
[05:14] <ToHellWithGA> Samantin: is that some language other than english for "capslock"?
[05:14] <directhex|work> Fujitsu_AMILO_A1, generally, try "free -m" and work out the difference from what you expect to what you have totoal
[05:14] <ToHellWithGA> b/c that capslock is silly-looking
[05:15] <Samantin> nalioth, on the alzir
[05:15] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> Terminus - i wasn't even aware that linux would emulate ntfs permissions
 RUSSIANS WE!!!
[05:15] <profoXP> Kyral_FreeBSD, right, thanks
[05:15] <burzum> hmm my ubuntu crashes randomly, any ideas why?
[05:15] <mpeters> how do you enable MP3 playback
[05:15] <nalioth> !ru
[05:15] <sevtastic> howdy. where is the file to edit my current theme?
[05:15] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[05:15] <mpeters> I have 5.10....
[05:15] <grogoreo> I'm trying to get my Wacom Graphire4 to work but after following a HOWTO on ubuntu forums I now don't have my mouse (PS/2) not working as well as a slow pickup from my tablet
[05:15] <profoXP> lol.. Ubuntu Development (not support, even with edgy)
[05:15] <mpeters> breezy
[05:15] <brandon_> can somebody try this: cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@mplayerhq.hu:/cvsroot/ffmpeg login'
ru_preved
[05:15] <Terminus> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: it doesn't. it just sets it's own perms. i guess the most common stuff you'll need is uid,gid, and umask.
[05:15] <MEDVED> !ru
[05:15] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[05:16] <MEDVED> !ru
[05:16] <babo> how do i check whether my ports are open for bittorrent ... ?
[05:16] <errpast98> I'm trying to install perl module "XML::RPC" via >cpan, and getting dependency errors
[05:16] <errpast98> Is this something I could do with apt-get?
[05:16] <m6s> babo: scan.sygate.com
[05:16] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> Terminus - ahh; the whole reason i did that was i'm using ubuntu live to grab things off of a broken ntfs partition
[05:16] <iiiears> Good Morning Nalioth.
[05:16] <ToHellWithGA> MEDVED: /j #ubuntu-ru
[05:16] <directhex|work> errpast98, always search apt first.
[05:16] <MEDVED> PELODKI EST"??????
[05:16] <m6s> babo: scan.sygatetech.com
[05:16] <Samantin> medved, pust oni sasut!
[05:16] <sevtastic> hi all. how would one edit gnome themes? i know there's a textfile that dictates all the properties but where is it located?
[05:16] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> Terminus - you wouldn't be able to tell me how to mount a windows smb share through the prompt, would you?
[05:17] <Terminus> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: and you couldn't access the ntfs files as a regular user? =)
[05:17] <Samantin> i want fuck girls ))
[05:17] <directhex|work> errpast98, librpc-xml-perl
[05:17] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> Terminus - broken...windows sees one bad file, cylinder, clusterfuck, ANYTHING, and it bsods on boot
[05:17] <ToHellWithGA> lol @ Samantin
[05:17] <iiiears> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: I have exactly to the letter the same question. just installed smbfs
[05:17] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Whoa nice quicky nalioth
[05:17] <chavo> sevtastic, they are in /usr/share/themes, but you can copy them to ~/.themes so you can edit them
[05:17] <baumer> Anybody had issues migrating to the vmware-player debs after building from source?
[05:17] <MEDVED>    ???????
[05:17] <chavo> sevtastic, you can also rename them by renaming the directory
[05:17] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: did it work now?
[05:17] <Terminus> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: it's supposed to be "modprobe smbfs; mount -t smbfs //foo/bar /mnt/point" but it doesn't seem to work here. :(
[05:17] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> hopefully smbfs is included in the live cd...
[05:18] <nalioth> MEDVED: please join #ubuntu-ru
[05:18] <apokryphos> MEDVED: utf8 only in here
[05:18] <big_tomato> #mp3_collective
[05:18] <ToHellWithGA> MEDVED: /j #ubuntu-ru
[05:18] <baumer> I'm getting these errors trying to start vmplayer http://pastebin.com/759092
[05:18] <saquib> >>> HELP: what is the shell command to disable/enable the "eth0" device ???
[05:18] <Terminus> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: something about a codepage error which i haven't been able to figure out yet.
[05:18] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> Terminus - i'll go try that now
[05:18] <ivoks> profoXP: well, this is better place
[05:19] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: I think it works now :) Will try to mount it
[05:19] <iiiears> Terminus - installing smbfs allows permanently mounting a remote directory and using longer path statements in apps (like xmms)
[05:19] <profoXP> ivoks, hi
[05:19] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: sudo ifconfig eth0 up brings it up
[05:19] <majd> !sharing
[05:19] <ubotu> majd: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:19] <m6s> java plugin for 64bit knows anyone anuthing?
[05:19] <majd> !network
[05:19] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[05:19] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: I'll leave it to you to see if you can figureout what brings it down :P
[05:19] <majd> grrr
[05:19] <directhex|work> saquib, ifconfig eth0 down
[05:19] <ivoks> profoXP: so, let's start with nvidia, ok?
[05:19] <pools_> does anybody know how to make konquerer the default file browser in gnome in 6.06 ?
[05:19] <majd> what steps do i need to take to add my ubuntu box to my windows network?
[05:19] <profoXP> ivoks, okay, thanks. So, how does the suspend function work? it checks my videocard to choose the best way of suspending ?
[05:19] <profoXP> ivoks, oh, okay.. good
[05:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell m6s about java
[05:20] <profoXP> ivoks, nvidia it is
[05:20] <saquib>  sudo ifconfig eth0 down ??
[05:20] <directhex|work> saquib, yes.
[05:20] <Terminus> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: argh! i just figured it out! smbmount wasn't installed on my box... >.<
[05:20] <m6s> what is ubotu? :-)
[05:20] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: yes
[05:20] <m6s> mechanism?
[05:20] <saquib> im a genius :S
[05:20] <sevtastic> chavo: you the man. that's exactly what i was looking for
[05:20] <ivoks> profoXP: for suspend to disk to work with nvidia, you have to make some changes to /etc/default/acpi-support
[05:20] <directhex|work> saquib, or "ifdown eth0" if you prefer
[05:20] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> i just got missing data argument
[05:20] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> XD
[05:20] <m6s> ubotu: tell m6s about ubotu
[05:20] <Hajuu> Hey guys... since I upgraded from hoary to breezy ive been having font troubles.. and now that ive finally gotten gdm to run using its config utility, I still have no fonts at all in mozilla firefox.. Someone please help! :(
[05:21] <ydc> hi
[05:21] <Samuli^> Odd, first I had 7 updates and the after that update manager suggested reboot.. Then I downloaded the other 65 updates that become available and now it doesn't want to reboot.
[05:21] <ivoks> profoXP: SAVE_VBE_STATE=false
[05:21] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: In the diskmanager, I can't make it accessible :(
[05:21] <directhex|work> Hajuu, you *just* moved to breezy? breezy's obsolete!
[05:21] <ivoks> profoXP: and that's it
[05:21] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: you don't need no stinkin disk manager
[05:21] <Crescendo> While in screensaver selection, I chose a graphically intensive screensave, and the preview locks up the window... terminating and reopening returns it to the same state... how to fix
[05:21] <Crescendo> ?
[05:21] <saquib> >> okay, my main trouble .s my DEFAULT GATEWAY device has to be eth0 ... but its not stayng parmanent! many times after booting i have to manually disable THEN enable, nad the internet connection would start working! What to do??
[05:21] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Then, how do I mount it?
[05:21] <Hajuu> directhex|work: Yeah. Dialup.. Been waiting for cds.. etc etc... any ideas though?
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> Samuli^: You don't have to reboot after most updates, only new kernels.  The majority of the time you run updates you will not need to reboot.
[05:21] <nalioth> directhex|work: breezy is just fine for any use you see fit to give it.  Linux does not go obsolete like other OS'
[05:21] <ivoks> profoXP: restart computer and then try to suspend
[05:21] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: You have the original disk manager, the terminal
[05:21] <apokryphos> Hajuu: is ubuntu-desktop installed?
[05:21] <Samuli^> directhex|work, breezy is supported for 2 years or so.
[05:21] <ivoks> profoXP: i guess you are using nvidia driver
[05:21] <apokryphos> Hajuu: did you follow the proper instructions for upgrading?
[05:22] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: use mkdir to create the mountpoint wherever you want it
[05:22] <Samuli^> tonyyarusso, I know that, but after the first 7 updates it suggested reboot.
[05:22] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: I want both windows and ubuntu to be able to use this partition
[05:22] <rongenre> hi there.. trying to get an orinoco gold card to work
[05:22] <profoXP> ivoks, okay, done (yes i am using the nvidia driver)
[05:22] <gdb> breezy should have about 10 months of support left.
[05:22] <Terminus> iiiears: yeah... i forgot the smbmount requirement. just figured it out. oh well, i use NFS anyway. hehe
[05:22] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: then do sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sd8 <yourmountpoint?
[05:22] <Hajuu> apokryphos: No, since I didnt want to do a dist-upgrade.. I upgraded manually :)
[05:22] <majd> !samba
[05:22] <rongenre> breezy worked w/ orinoco out of the box, not dapper
[05:22] <ubotu> samba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[05:22] <Hajuu> I didnt want to download 650mb+ for a simple kernel update
[05:22] <ivoks> profoXP: this will not make suspend to ram work, only to disk
[05:22] <g-nome> where are the files from gconf-editor saved on the disk (to make backup...) ?
[05:22] <iiiears> nalioth - smbfs needs the -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword   switch. How do i discover my default windows password without setting up windows user accounts?user
[05:22] <lekant> how do I install off of hte deskttop cdrom?
[05:22] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: where you mount it in Linux has no bearing on where it is in XP
[05:22] <Edenshaw> join/ #muchbytes
[05:22] <apokryphos> Hajuu: if dist-upgrade isn't a manual upgrade, what's "manual update"?
[05:23] <profoXP> ivoks, is dapper going to detect this automatically in a next release btw? (and suspend to ram won't work?)
[05:23] <nalioth> iiiears: how about using a 'blank' entry?
[05:23] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Okej.. what is a mountpoint? SHould I write like... </share
[05:23] <ivoks> profoXP: and how it is "not working"? what are results
[05:23] <saquib> >>HELP: okay, my main trouble .s my DEFAULT GATEWAY device has to be eth0 ... but its not stayng parmanent! many times after booting i have to manually disable THEN enable, nad the internet connection would start working! What to do??
[05:23] <profoXP> ivoks, wait let me see what this gives me now
[05:23] <ivoks> profoXP: for suspend to ram, you need to do aditional changes
[05:23] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: where ever you want it to be
[05:23] <ydc> hi there all!!
[05:23] <lekant> How do I install off of the Desktop CDROM? I have booted off of it but it did not come up with the X 11 Window System, so I am stuck in command line mode. What ist he command to start the install to DISK?
[05:23] <Hajuu> apokryphos: Going through every package manually heh
[05:23] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: a mount point is just where it attaches to the file system
[05:23] <apokryphos> Hajuu: well that explains the problem.. you can't just do that :)
[05:23] <profoXP> ivoks, it didnt want to boot after I suspended, but I am rebooting now and I'm going to suspend after the reboot to test
[05:23] <gdb> Why are you guys riding his ass for running Breezy?  It's supported for *at least* another 10 months and this is the "Official Ubuntu support channel".
[05:24] <directhex|work> saquib, look into setting something in /etc/network/interfaces. read "man interfaces"
[05:24] <Hajuu> apokryphos: sure you can.
[05:24] <gdb> sheesh
[05:24] <majd> I want to send files from my ubuntu box to my windows box, how can i do it?
[05:24] <chapium> hip bone connected to the leg bone..
[05:24] <FoolsRun> is it possible to rebuild a user's settings from defaults if they got screwed up? Fonts/window style, etc?
[05:24] <lekant> How do I install off of the Desktop CDROM? I have booted off of it but it did not come up with the X 11 Window System, so I am stuck in command line mode. What ist he command to start the install to DISK?
[05:24] <ivoks> profoXP: ok
[05:24] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: It said mount point /share does not exist
[05:24] <chapium> majd: samba
[05:24] <apokryphos> gdb: language, please.
[05:24] <gdb> FoolsRun: Yeah, pretty much delete anything that starts with .g in ~
[05:24] <Tobberoth> So.. how do I make it >_>
[05:24] <watson540> so much repeating here :(
[05:24] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: you have to make it with mkdir :P
[05:24] <iiiears> nalioth - No luck with an empty password. - Thanks i should google it. (going to need a walkthrough.)
[05:24] <watson540> there should be a 'repeat kick'
[05:24] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: sudo mkdir /share
[05:24] <FoolsRun> gdb: cool, thanks!
[05:24] <gdb> apokryphos: Point taken, I hope you got mine, too. :-P
[05:24] <Tobberoth> Wow, I suck at this ^
[05:24] <Tobberoth> thanks
[05:24] <gdb> FoolsRun: no problem
[05:24] <majd> chapium, the link only tells you how to read files from you'r windows shares....right?
[05:24] <majd> !samba
[05:25] <ubotu> samba is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[05:25] <lekant> How do I install off of the Desktop CDROM? I have booted off of it but it did not come up with the X 11 Window System, so I am stuck in command line mode.   It spams the channel and is annoying.
[05:26] <gdb> lekant: Then perhaps you're SOL, I dunno how to do it from tty.
[05:26] <FoolsRun> oh, well start X and then double click "install" :)
[05:26] <directhex|work> lekant, if you want a text-based installation, you use the text-based "alternate" install cd.
[05:26] <lekant> i'm not SOL
[05:26] <gdb> Kyral_FreeBSD: Missed it in the scroll.
[05:26] <Kyral_FreeBSD> lekant: try to execute startx
[05:26] <lekant> i did
[05:26] <hmpedersen> lekant. No reason to use that language
[05:26] <Kyral_FreeBSD> lekant: nada?
[05:26] <lekant> chill out
[05:26] <chapium> !volunteers
[05:26] <ubotu> chapium: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:26] <chapium> bleh
[05:26] <lekant> i would have to load nvidia drivers
[05:26] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Everyone chill
[05:26] <lekant> i guess i will have to use this alt cd
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> lekant: Did X work with a Breezy disk?  (If you have one)
[05:26] <gdb> lekant: Why?
[05:26] <apokryphos> chapium: want to volunteer to help? :)
[05:27] <orp> i there
[05:27] <Kyral_FreeBSD> lekant: not neccessarily
[05:27] <chapium> errr
[05:27] <gdb> lekant: Every nVidia card works just fine with 2d support (all you need to install the system) out of the box.
[05:27] <chapium> if i know how to help i'll try
[05:27] <Kyral_FreeBSD> the vesa driver will work
[05:27] <lekant> not on this computer
[05:27] <g-nome> anyone knows what's gconfd?
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> lekant: I personally prefer the alternate CD anyway, actually.
[05:27] <FoolsRun> lekant: have you tried apt-getting the nvidia drivers?
[05:27] <Kyral_FreeBSD> g-nome: GConf's little ting
[05:27] <lekant> i have 2 nvidia 6200's with SGI 1600 SW flat panels
[05:27] <Hajuu> apokryphos: so any ideas about the fonts? ive removed all the ubuntu-* packages because it was the fastest way to remove 90% of stuff I didnt want (all of gstreamer etc etc)... So I just need to fix my fonts and ill be right as rain! I did a google search for the error and came up with quite a few people who experienced the same problem going from hoary to breezy, but their solutions didnt work :(
[05:27] <lekant> apt-get to where? i'm running off a live cd
[05:27] <orp> some one there from yorkshire?
[05:27] <apokryphos> chapium: are you referring to Ubuntu or in this channel?
[05:27] <Kyral_FreeBSD> lekant: honestly, you may have a bad burn
[05:27] <FoolsRun> lekant: I apt-getted off a livecd just fine...
[05:27] <g-nome> Kyral_: ?
[05:27] <lekant> gdb: that' sobviously not true in my case
[05:27] <gdb> I'm not sure why you need accelerated 3D drivers to install the OS.  You just need enough support to get graphics on the screen and that works with the supplied drivers.
[05:28] <lekant> kyral: hrmmm
[05:28] <lekant> seriously ?
[05:28] <Crescendo> On that note, what is the APT package...
[05:28] <apokryphos> Hajuu: you have to acknowledge that upgrades without ubuntu-desktop installed are explicitly not supported. It could be more-or-less anything
[05:28] <lekant> a bad burn
[05:28] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Every, quiet
[05:28] <Crescendo> ...for NVidia drivers?
[05:28] <chapium> apokryphos: i meant !patience
[05:28] <Kyral_FreeBSD> I'll handle lekant
[05:28] <Kyral_FreeBSD> mkay?
[05:28] <rendo> I have a question for anyone that understands ISPs
[05:28] <Kyral_FreeBSD> :D
[05:28] <rendo> ....
[05:28] <Hajuu> apokryphos: A missing font could be more or less anything? :/
[05:28] <rendo> I have a question for anyone that understands ISPs better than I do.
[05:28] <apokryphos> chapium: right =)
[05:28] <_wmealing_> hey kids.
[05:28] <lekant> brb
[05:28] <Crescendo> nvdia-glx is the package, right?
[05:28] <rendo> With 2 IP addresses and the use of a hub, is the bandwidth shared or is it separate for each IP?
[05:28] <Kyral_FreeBSD> lekant: yah. Redownload and burn at the slowest speed
[05:28] <_wmealing_> anyone run U on a Macbook (non pro)
[05:28] <profoXP> ivoks, so.. i get a flashing _ but after a while i'm stuck at a black screen
[05:28] <lekant> ok
[05:28] <gdb> rendo: Read the comic strip 'User Friendly' for more insight into how ISPs work.
[05:28] <hmpedersen> rendo, I only work with ISPs.. I don't understand them
[05:29] <_wmealing_> ive heard of it, but i want to talk to someone about it.
[05:29] <saquib> HOW can i make ifconfig eth0 up command run w/out SUDO ?
[05:29] <lekant> brb
[05:29] <apokryphos> Hajuu: are you convinced that it's just a missing font, that's all your problems? Anyway, look for what font packages there are in MAIN
[05:29] <rendo> I worked for one too, and I never learned about hubs :P
[05:29] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: you CAN'T
[05:29] <FoolsRun> Kyral_FreeBSD: seriously, a bad burn could get a working liveCD that doesn't start X?
[05:29] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: ifconfig is a root command
[05:29] <hmpedersen> lekant, I have no problems with nvidia drivers from the desktop cd
[05:29] <Kyral_FreeBSD> FoolsRun: yah, some of the data is there
[05:29] <Kyral_FreeBSD> FoolsRun: but not the rest
[05:29] <Kyral_FreeBSD> FoolsRun: I've had it happen
[05:29] <ivoks> profoXP: ok, so it boots, but doesn't bring X?
[05:29] <Hajuu> apokryphos: yeah its either a missing font or a paths problem...
[05:29] <majd> when i'm configuring samba, what does "domain name" refer to?
[05:29] <majd> the ip of the local computer?
[05:30] <FoolsRun> Kyral_FreeBSD: weird. Very specifically bad burn to be so carefully seperated into "eveyrthing except nvidia drivers" :)
[05:30] <hmpedersen> rendo, I don't work 'for' an ISP.. I work 'with' an ISP ;)
[05:30] <rendo> Lol :P
[05:31] <apokryphos> Hajuu: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:31] <Spliffster> hello room. i have problems with gnome-session since dapper beta and after upgrading to 6.06 TLS. when i log in i get no meaningfull error message and gdm falls back to xterm ... is this a known issue ?
[05:31] <rendo> I worked for one.
[05:31] <apokryphos> Hajuu: are you really low on space that you're trying to save it?
[05:31] <saquib> Kyral_FreeBSD, isnt there a file, where u can make certain commands sudo free?
[05:31] <ivoks> profoXP: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find a line Driver          "nvidia"
[05:31] <Spliffster>  /etc/sudoers ... and use NOPASSWD
[05:31] <ivoks> profoXP: bellow it add Option          "NvAGP" "1"
[05:31] <apokryphos> saquib: not sudo-free, but non-admin users can use sudo with the given application, yes.
[05:31] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: but why would you
[05:31] <apokryphos> ifconfig is still technically executed as root
[05:31] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: I only see use to ifconfig for root
[05:31] <saquib> i actually want the ommand in startup to automatically Disable then Enable my eth0
[05:31] <Lemsip> Can anyone tell me how to get spatial nautilus working in Dapper?  I've tried the gconf thing, but it seems to have no effect
[05:32] <saquib> cuz i have to do it manualy mostly anyway
[05:32] <Hajuu> apokryphos: No bandwidth.. Im on dialup and didnt want to download the 700mb that dist-upgrade wanted to download to upgrade to breezy! thats too much... Ive managed to get the kernel running on about 60mb of downloads and about another 120mb of base package upgrades (gnome, xorg, gcc, libraries etc etc)
[05:32] <apokryphos> Kyral_FreeBSD: if you want some people to be able to restart the network but not have the power to muck up other things.
[05:32] <profoXP> ivoks, dont know if it boots completely.. last thing it said on booting was ""Mounting root file system" I guess it did because it took some time, and then I got the flashing cursor and then nothing anymore, Couldn't switch to a VC either.. I will try out NvAGP in a minute, im going to eat now ;) bye and thanks for the help already
[05:32] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: modify /etc/network/interfaces
[05:32] <gdb> I must say that Dapper's installer is really really impressive, but leaves a couple of things to be desired.  It doesn't prompt for network setup.  So even though it's certainly more impressive than Breezy's installer, it's less useful. ;-)
[05:32] <ivoks> profoXP: that's not everything you should do...
[05:32] <Hajuu> apokryphos: but if I update ubuntu-desktop, thats 200mb ontop of the 200 ive already downloaded over the past three days...
[05:32] <Kyral_FreeBSD> gdb: ty, NCurses FTW
[05:32] <apokryphos> Hajuu: why didn't you use shipit? :P
[05:32] <Hajuu> For stuff I dont even need
[05:32] <ivoks> profoXP: well, i'll write a howto today or tomorrow, so you could check it out
[05:32] <ivoks> profoXP: it will be on http://www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu
[05:32] <saquib> Kyral_FreeBSD, im looking into many forums, no clue wat to do!
[05:32] <Spliffster> Kyral_FreeBSD: ifconfig (depreciated on gun/linux) and ip are on a desktop machin (especially a laptop) actually userland programms (or should be) ... imagine you travel with your laptop ... wifi there, comapany network here ... blah blah bah.
[05:32] <gdb> Kyral_FreeBSD: What am I to welcome you for?
[05:32] <saquib> y defaultits ENable bu
[05:33] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Sorry, I'm allready back with problems :(
[05:33] <Hajuu> apokryphos: I do, I just didnt feel like waiting 6 weeks for openGL (Im using an nvidia-legacy card, which hoary does not support anymore)
[05:33] <saquib> but NOT as my Default gaeway device
[05:33] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: sokay
[05:33] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Now Windows won't boot anymore!
[05:33] <benjiman_> anyone knows how I can change opacity on windows (XGL+Compiz) without a scrollwheel, using a laptop so I dont have one
[05:33] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> i booted into ubuntu live and i've created a temporary tar archive and i want to ftp it - turns out i didn't plug in the cable so it didn't pull a dhcp lease - is there a command that will force it to look for dhcp right now?
[05:33] <apokryphos> Hajuu: look through here http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=font&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=main
[05:33] <Samuli^> benjiman_, /join #ubuntu-xgl
[05:33] <chavo> benjiman_, you can change the keybinding
[05:33] <rongenre> Hi there, any assistance w/ an orinoco card on a laptop?
[05:33] <paul_> I just upgraded to dapper with an all night fight. lol but I got it finally.
[05:33] <directhex|work> Iam8up|lpy|dsc, /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:33] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> or is there a way to set the ip/subnet/gateway?
[05:33] <benjiman_> Samuli^: thanks will do that :)
[05:34] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> ok, thank you!
[05:34] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: heeh, Windows hates having its partition table changed :D
[05:34] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Such an inflexible OS
[05:34] <benjiman_> chavo: Yeah I tried to find how to do that ;>
[05:34] <apokryphos> Hajuu: that's all packages with "font" that are in MAIN. If it really is just a font you need, it'll be one of those. If it's the path that's mucked up, you'll have to do some other work
[05:34] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: I can imagine.. anyway to fix it?
[05:34] <directhex|work> this is very wishful thinking, but worth a shot: "has *anyone* got experience with preseeding debian-installer? i can't get the 'passwd' bits to behave"
[05:34] <watson540> Iam8up|lpy|dsc: 'ifup eth0'?
[05:34] <chavo> benjiman_, are you using the quinstorm repos?
[05:34] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: Sorry mate, I have little experiance with XP since I stopped using it about 2 years ago
[05:34] <Spliffster> GDM has problems to start gnome-session then falls back to xterm. if i start gnome-session manually it works without any arror message ... this started with 6.06 TLS. this is pretty much a vanilla installation ... any help ?
[05:34] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> watson540 - i tried that, didn't take it
[05:35] <watson540> :(
[05:35] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Oh man :/ Now what do I do? I'm dependant on Windows
[05:35] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> directhex|work - i did restart the networking services and it said 'ok' to the one job it did, and i still don't have an ip or anything
[05:35] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: Use this as a way to break your addiction? :P
[05:35] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Besides, I can't even write to the FAT partition >_< Says I don't have permission
[05:35] <vitalstatistix> aporkyphos, try "dhclient eth*" where eth* is the network interface
[05:35] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: THAT I can help with
[05:35] <benjiman_> chavo: never heard of that, using the usual dapper multiverse, universe etc
[05:35] <steina1> tob: you are sudo?
[05:36] <FoolsRun> okay, so removing my gnome settings didn't help. Here's my issue: I was messing with interface settings and when I finally got around to restarting X, my fonts ended up super small. No idea what change caused it. Any ideas?
[05:36] <Spliffster> Tobberoth: do you have a recovery diskette or a bootable windows cd ? if so boot into dos and do a format /mbr ... if it is a bootloader problem. you'll have to reinstall lilo/grub afterwards .. however ... windows would boot again
[05:36] <saquib> Kyral_FreeBS , what can i change in  my interfaces file to make sure that my eth0 is the DEFAULT GATEWAY DEVICE when it boots? I dont even ahev any other devices for networking anywya!
[05:36] <chavo> benjiman_, ok, there's an app in the quinstorm repos called gset-compiz, that makes it easy to config
[05:36] <damnation> anyone know wether ubuntu supports linksys wifi pcmcia cards?
[05:36] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: gimme a sec to handle Tobberoth's problem
[05:36] <D-side> my google-fu is weak. how do i enable "desktop sharing" a la vnc?
[05:36] <Tobberoth> Spliffster: Is it hard to reinstall grub afterwards?
[05:36] <Crescendo> Would NVdia drivers be appropriate for "S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV", and if so, what would be the package name?
[05:36] <saquib> Kyral_FreeBS, ok... sure
[05:36] <D-side> i'm ssh'ed into the ubuntu box and i'm not sure which option turns on the vncserver
[05:36] <hmpedersen> Does anyone know why I can't syncronize the time?
[05:37] <damnation> i currently have ubuntu installed but couldnt get it to find my APm not sure if it works :S
[05:37] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: open up /etc/fstab in your favorite editor as root
[05:37] <Spliffster> Tobberoth: i haven't done it with ubuntu ... but ... wwell ... no. you can always boot from the ubuntu cd into a isntalled system i guess
[05:37] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: add this line to the bottom
[05:37] <hmpedersen> None of my ubuntus will allow me to syncronize time.
[05:37] <benjiman_> chavo: nice, thanks for the tip, will google that right away :D
[05:37] <Spliffster> Tobberoth: so you won't loos any data
[05:37] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: "/dev/sda8  /share vfat users,rw,umask=000 0 0"
[05:37] <rongenre> damnation I'm having a problem with my lucent pcmcia card
[05:37] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: then save it
[05:38] <Tobberoth> hold on
[05:38] <damnation> oic :)
[05:38] <chavo> benjiman_, you can do it with gconf-editor but gset-compiz is much easier
[05:38] <Spliffster> any gnome wizards in here ? i have a problem and no usable log data!!! argh
[05:38] <hmpedersen> Time to reboot
[05:38] <jaek> my hal is acting up... it takes over a minute to start duiring boot, and then after starting gnome i get a "failed to initialize hal" message... then it takes another minute for nautilus to run... even then it hangs all the time
[05:38] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: pwd /etc won't work
[05:39] <benjiman_> chavo: tried to find the opacity plugin in gconf, but cant find it anywhere :/
[05:39] <ompaul> Spliffster, so stop smokin and start tellin
[05:39] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: why are you using pwd /etc?
[05:39] <Spliffster> Tobberoth: try cd /etc
[05:39] <Crescendo> Would NVdia drivers be appropriate for "S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV", and if so, what would be the package name?
[05:39] <Tobberoth> hehe I don't know what I'm doing really >_>
[05:39] <mgcross> hello all...anyone help me move grub to another hd?
[05:39] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: try this "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[05:39] <babo> gosh, I'm pretty much out of ideas on this one ... I've opened the firewalls, opened port forwarding on my router, opened the torrent ports on my router, attempted to bypass the router (pppoeconf won't pick up my isp access concentrator by it's self), but when I test my connection at scangate.com, it can't find any running services ... I should have dhclient and bittorrent server running. Or at least according to netstat -tulp I should anyway ...
[05:39] <Tobberoth> never mind, found it using the file system thing
[05:39] <mgcross> I'm using lvm, so the forums haven't been much help to me....I've looked
[05:39] <visik7> anyone have try to setup hostap with madwifi
[05:39] <Zahrun> hi, is there a way to start installation of 6.06 in expert mode?
[05:39] <babo> Is it possible to nmap yourself ?
[05:39] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: you need to do it as root
[05:39] <apokryphos> Zahrun: /msg ubotu alternate
[05:39] <Kyral_FreeBSD> babo: yes
[05:40] <zandaa> hello
[05:40] <Kyral_FreeBSD> babo: just set the target to your IP
[05:40] <Crescendo> babo: nmap <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:40] <babo> but it wouldn't necessarily be very effective I guess ...
[05:40] <Zahrun> apokryphos: thx
[05:40] <zandaa> :D upgrading to 6.06 now ;)
[05:40] <Crescendo> Would NVdia drivers be appropriate for "S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV", and if so, what would be the package name?
[05:40] <Tobberoth> Darnit, it won't let me change it.. how do I go root outside of the terminal..
[05:40] <directhex|work> Crescendo, no, they'd be entirely inappropriate
[05:40] <Lemsip> Can anyone tell me how to get spatial nautilus working in Dapper?  I've tried the gconf thing, but it seems to have no effect
[05:41] <Spliffster> ompaul: since dapper GDM can't start `gnome-session. gdm reports (~/xsession-errors): "/etc/gdm/Xsession: Executing /usr/bin/gnome-session failed, will try to run x-terminal-emulator". then in the x/gnome-term  i start gnome-session manually. which works fine. exit-code is 0 and no error message is display. ... doh!
[05:41] <ompaul> Crescendo, no that is S3
[05:41] <chapium> Crescendo: no
[05:41] <CokeNCode> why is it that when I run noip2 as root, it comes up as being run as 'nobody' ?
[05:41] <cindy> anyone know how to modify postfix's main.cf so that bounce will start creating logs? all postfix does is forward mail to the postmaster right now
[05:41] <babo> oh, actually it tells me that all my ports are closed ... :-) ... :-(
[05:41] <pools_> does anybody know how to make konquerer the default file browser in gnome in 6.06 ?
[05:41] <FoolsRun> hah. I'm retarded. I figured it out: I'm using xfce, not gnome, so deleting gnome settings wouldn't reset anything :)
[05:41] <FoolsRun> This is what I get for not thinking :)
[05:41] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: just do in terminal "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[05:41] <Spliffster> thinking is bad mmmmmm'kay !?
[05:41] <rongenre> Hi there, trying to get a pcmcia orinoco card on a thinkpad working
[05:41] <ompaul> Spliffster, if that happened to me I might, sudo dpgk-reconfigure gdm or xserver-xorg
[05:41] <Crescendo> How to install drivers for S3, package name?
[05:42] <FoolsRun> back to my original question: does anyone run Pro/ENGINEER on Linux?
[05:42] <D-side> maybe i should simplify my question. i want to start the remote desktop "server" on my ubuntu machine, but i'm not sitting at it. i'm ssh'ed in. i ned to know what the daemon's name is, since i can't find any vncserver binary.
[05:42] <Tobberoth> Allright, done :)
[05:42] <directhex|work> Crescendo, xserver-xorg-video-savage
[05:42] <directhex|work> in theory
[05:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: did you see that line up there?
[05:42] <ompaul> Crescendo, they are there choose them in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:42] <Tobberoth> Yeah, I added it and saved
[05:42] <CokeNCode> D-side gdm ?
[05:42] <Spliffster> ompaul: ty for the hint ... will try. would i do this on
[05:42] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Now you should be able to mount it and write to it as your user
[05:42] <babo> nmap says all my ports are closed ... netstat -tulp says I'm listening to the world on 6881, 3142 ... iptables are empty ... any ideas ?
[05:42] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: Should I be worried that simply su doesn't work in my terminal?
[05:42] <Spliffster> ompaul: whil gdm is down ?
[05:43] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: no, su doesn'
[05:43] <Kyral_FreeBSD> t work in Ubuntu
[05:43] <D-side> CokeNCode: uh
[05:43] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: its sudo
[05:43] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: ah phew :)
[05:43] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: I have one last question I know you can help me with
[05:43] <D-side> CokeNCode: i don't mean remote X, i mean the "remote desktop" option available in the gnome menus. i'm sure its just vnc, i just don't know how to start it from the console.
[05:43] <Kyral_FreeBSD> shoot
[05:43] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: How do I make Ubuntu mount dev/sda8 to /share each time I start ubuntu?
[05:44] <directhex|work> there seems to be an utterly pointless bit ot hand-forcing on that front
[05:44] <Tobberoth> Or do it permanently, so to speak
[05:44] <Spliffster> D-side: vncviewer
[05:44] <CokeNCode> D-side oh ok
[05:44] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: see those "user,rw,umask" section in fstab?
[05:44] <Tobberoth> yeah
[05:44] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: tag "auto" onto it
[05:44] <Spliffster> D-side: vncviewer hostname : or do a man vncviewer in a console for details
[05:44] <D-side> Spliffster: that's what i'd use if i were sitting at the ubuntu box. instead i want to vnc INTO it.
[05:44] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: so its like "auto,user,rw..."
[05:44] <Tobberoth> oh ok :)
[05:45] <Tobberoth> Nice ^
[05:45] <Spliffster> D-side: what d you mean with "into" ?
[05:45] <Spliffster> D-side: are you looking for the server part ?
[05:45] <Tobberoth> Kyral_FreeBSD: But, how does it know where to mount it automatically?
[05:45] <D-side> I'm not sure I can make it any clearer.
[05:45] <D-side> thats indeed what i've been saying.
[05:45] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: it knows because you entered the data into fstab
[05:45] <Tobberoth> but i didn't O.o
[05:45] <directhex|work> D-side, vino.
[05:45] <Tobberoth> OH
[05:45] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: remember /dev/sda8 is the device and /share is the mountpoint right?
[05:45] <Tobberoth> now I see it :D
[05:46] <Tobberoth> Neat :)
[05:46] <Spliffster> D-side: i do not really understand what you are looking fro ... mayou you are looking for $(vncserver) ?
[05:46] <Tobberoth> Thanks, now to try fix the damn Windows install..
[05:46] <roe> how do I set the LANG env variable
[05:46] <roe> I don't want it to have UTF-8
[05:46] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Tobberoth: Thats fstab's job. FileSystem TABle
[05:46] <saquib> Kyral_FreeBSD, you done yet ?
[05:46] <damnation> guys, i have a WPC54G wifi pcmcia card in my laptop, how do i get it working in linux? also what software do i use to utilise it ?
[05:46] <Spliffster> roe: export LANG=<locale>
[05:46] <D-side> directhex|work: aha, i havent used gnome in a while and i was completely unaware.
[05:46] <D-side> directhex|work: thanks
[05:46] <Spliffster> roe: for bash that is
[05:46] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: yah
[05:46] <D-side> Spliffster: you too, thanks for the attempt. :)
[05:47] <Spliffster> :
[05:47] <Spliffster> :)
[05:47] <cindy> anyone know how to modify postfix's main.cf so that bounce will start creating logs? all postfix does is forward mail to the postmaster right now
[05:47] <port7> anyone know if sun are planning on officially supportin ubunutu on the ultra 20's?
[05:47] <damnation> apparantly the wpc54gv3 (what i have) works on linux's list @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:47] <Spliffster> D-side i what is your native language ?
[05:47] <jbirdAngel> what are the ultra 20's?
[05:47] <lekant> where do I find the ISO for the alternate installer?
[05:48] <ompaul> Spliffster, it would activate the next time you restart
[05:48] <saquib> Kyral_FreeBSD, my problem is very complicated
[05:48] <D-side> Spliffster: English.
[05:48] <ompaul> Spliffster, I am out again for a little bit
[05:48] <apokryphos> lekant: ubuntu.com
[05:48] <Spliffster> ompaul: ty ... so i'll try ... and reboot :)
[05:48] <CokeNCode> lol
[05:48] <saquib> Kyral_FreeBSD, the main problem is, often I would boot up and see NO internet connectivity
[05:48] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: no kiddin'
[05:48] <lekant> funny apok
[05:48] <ompaul> Spliffster, don't reboot just restart X
[05:48] <Spliffster> D-side: ok .. .there might be the problem ... my mother tongue isn't english
[05:48] <apokryphos> lekant: well, it is obvious.
[05:49] <lekant> yeah
[05:49] <lekant> you might as well just tell me it's on the internet
[05:49] <ompaul> Spliffster, log out ctrl alt backspace and log in
[05:49] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> can anyone tell me how to change my ip address using ifconfig? i've tried restarting the networking services but it doesn't seem to try to pull dhcp
[05:49] <Spliffster> ompaul: ok ... ctrl-alt-backspaceing then
[05:49] <D-side> Spliffster: rest assured, your English is better than my $your-native-language. :)
[05:49] <Spliffster> ompaul: thanx once again ... you are a valuable source!
[05:49] <apokryphos> lekant: you're telling me you don't know where to go from ubuntu.com?
[05:49] <lekant> obviously
[05:49] <directhex|work> jbirdAngel, an opteron-based workstation from sun?
[05:49] <lekant> i'm there right now
[05:49] <Crescendo> How to restart X server?
[05:49] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> green_earz - /etc/init.d/X11 restart
[05:49] <apokryphos> lekant: search for "download" on the page
[05:49] <jbirdAngel> directhex|work: okay thank you
[05:49] <Kyral_FreeBSD> Crescendo: CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[05:49] <lekant> dude
[05:49] <lekant> i'm on the f'ing download
[05:49] <CokeNCode> Iam8up|lpy|dsc change your ip? You mean your internal IP address?
[05:49] <apokryphos> I get........three matches
[05:50] <eric___> Anybody here have experience putting UBUNTU live on an iMac G3?
[05:50] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - yes - right now it's got an ipv6 address setup that doesn't help me; i need it to get online (dns isn't important in my case)
[05:50] <lekant> nevermind
[05:50] <directhex|work> lekant, click a mirror, click an iso with "alternate" in the name?
[05:50] <lekant> i thought hterew as a special area
[05:50] <eric___> I'm installing it and the screen just went black.
[05:50] <lekant> thanks direct
[05:50] <directhex|work> eric___, yes. insert install cd, run installer. done.
[05:50] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> the cable wasn't plugged in when it booted, ifup --force eth0 doesn't help, /etc/init.d/networking restart doesn't help either
[05:50] <eric___> Is it supposed to be black for a long time?
[05:50] <eric___> Been about 15-20 minutes now.
[05:51] <eric___> CD drive is working.
[05:51] <directhex|work> eric___, using a text-based installer?
[05:51] <saquib> Kyral_FreeBSD, so what happens is
[05:51] <damnation> guys, i have a WPC54G wifi pcmcia card in my laptop, how do i get it working in linux? also what software do i use to utilise it ?
[05:51] <damnation> apparantly the wpc54gv3 (what i have) works on linux's list @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:51] <tuxmaniac> !mp3
[05:51] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:51] <eric___> Started off text-based.
[05:51] <saquib> Kyral_FreeBSD, I need to go to NETWORK Settings
[05:51] <saquib> and see
[05:51] <rongenre> Bleah, seriously.. this wifi stuff is horrible.  I have a standard orinoco card, it's worked with previously ubuntu versions.  I just booted a recent knoppix disk and it worked there too out of the box
[05:51] <eric___> Then saw the UBUNTU logo and progress bar, then the screen went black.
[05:51] <CokeNCode> Iam8up|lpy|dsc are you trying to get a static IP or are you using DHCP ?
[05:51] <rongenre> What's the deal with dapper and wifi?
[05:51] <saquib> that my my DEFAULT GATEWAY DEVICE is BLANK
[05:51] <FoolsRun> rongenre: works fine here...
[05:51] <saquib> i have only oe device eth0
[05:52] <tuxmaniac> !ubuntuguide
[05:52] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is badly out of date,  reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information.  :P
[05:52] <_maney> Q: is there some secret way to remove the bloody Xs from gterm's tabs, or do I need to stop using it?
[05:52] <saquib> as the default gateway now
[05:52] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - i would like ot use dhcp, but if that doesn't work i don't mind setting it to a static ip address [i'm using the live cd to get some data off of another hard drive that windows doesn't like]
[05:52] <FoolsRun> rongenre: no, linksys card.
[05:52] <saquib> the net wont work
[05:52] <tuxmaniac> !ubuntuguide tuxmaniac
[05:52] <saquib> but what i can do is
[05:52] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tuxmaniac
[05:52] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> the card is obviously installed, as eth0 shows up
[05:52] <apokryphos> saquib: FAQ
[05:52] <saquib> Disable that eth0
[05:52] <saquib> then enable that eth0
[05:52] <rongenre> I get that too.. eth0, and wifi0 [or wlan0, i can't recall]
[05:52] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> saquib - you mean ifconfig eth0 down and up?
[05:52] <D-side> can't start vino from !X? good lord.
[05:53] <rongenre> foolsrun got it -- I wonder if i'm under some funky ndis stuff on knoppix and the prev versions
[05:53] <saquib> eyah i think that (didnt try the command) - i mena simply clicking DISABLE then ENABLE
[05:53] <CokeNCode> Iam8up|lpy|dsc are you running gnome ?
[05:53] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - no, that mcahine doesn't like X
[05:53] <surfdue> hey
[05:53] <saquib> after this my Interwould work seemlessly!
[05:53] <surfdue> whats the command to restore your system
[05:53] <surfdue> i re emberd it
[05:53] <saquib> then again after next boot
[05:53] <saquib> the internet wont work
[05:53] <saquib> but SOMETIMES it works....
[05:54] <lekant> the internet won't work
[05:54] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> saquib - i don't want to reboot, i've got several things in /tmp i want off that box
[05:54] <lekant> wow
[05:54] <surfdue> rescue thanks
[05:54] <lekant> can you be anymore nebulous?
[05:54] <saquib> what can i do? :S
[05:54] <dr_willis> Ok dang it.. Every time i print somthinhg. it prints.. then if i print somthing else - it just 'hangs' untill i restart the cups service.
[05:54] <FoolsRun> rongenre: you don't just get ra0 in the network settinngs?
[05:54] <dr_willis> anyone else seeing this 'issie' ?
[05:54] <FoolsRun> that's what Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu all gave me
[05:55] <TheStonepedo> hooray exploding transformers.  i'd hate to stay online too long
[05:55] <byen> Hey Guys, my Dapper cannot see my external USB drive how can i make it work.. it worked on breezy
[05:56] <TheStonepedo> byen: is it in /media?
[05:56] <directhex|work> ra0 is for RaLink RT2x00 devices
[05:56] <CokeNCode> Iam8up|lpy|dsc did you try ifup eth0 ?
[05:56] <saquib> ANY HELP GUYS??
[05:56] <rongenre> foolsrun no -- what's ra0?
[05:56] <FoolsRun> directhex|work: okay, some equivilent then :)
[05:56] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - yes
[05:56] <apokryphos> saquib: no shouting please.
[05:56] <rongenre> i get eth0 and wifi0
[05:56] <byen> TheStonepedo, nope
[05:56] <leo__> will the kbd-chooser option in my isolinux.cfg also be responsible for setting the correct keymap in my xorg.conf (on a livecd)
[05:56] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> it did nothing that i can see
[05:56] <FoolsRun> rongenre: setting up wifi0 doesn't work?
[05:56] <Kyral_FreeBSD> saquib: Sorry, I dont know ATM
[05:56] <apokryphos> dr_willis: there have been a lot of complaints about cups in dapper unfortunately
[05:56] <CokeNCode> Iam8up|lpy|dsc hmmm ... are you sure that is the correct device ... try ifup eth1
[05:56] <saquib> my breezy had no issues like these
[05:56] <surfdue> hey
[05:56] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - there is no eth1, it's only th eloopbackup and eth0
[05:56] <Spliffster> ok, restarting X ... see you later
[05:57] <[NP] Tangent> does anybody know why Dapper would keep resetting my DNS servers to a pair of them that won't work?
[05:57] <saquib> i think 6.06 is lil more buggy
[05:57] <surfdue> I kinda messed up the partition table with fdisk, what do i do?
[05:57] <surfdue> can I rescue somehow?
[05:57] <dr_willis> apokryphos:  heh - ok.. sadly it worked fine with the betas.  Well, I dunno then. I'd have to know a bit more about your internal network settings to try to troubleshoot
[05:57] <eric___> Can anyone give me advice on using Ubuntu 5.10 live with an iMac G3/233?
[05:57] <saquib> Kyral_FreeBSD, can you tell me how to make a Specific cmmand SUCH that, it wont need a sudo?
[05:58] <[NP] Tangent> TheStonepedo, where can I set it to always use a certain set of DNS serv ers?
[05:58] <surfdue> how do i get to parted
[05:58] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - what is it you need to know? i know the pool range...theres nothing else to know...
[05:58] <FoolsRun> rongenre?
[05:58] <apokryphos> dr_willis: quite notably: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/blog/418
[05:58] <surfdue> and how do i use it
[05:58] <surfdue> :P
[05:58] <TheStonepedo> eric___: my first advice would be to use a newer version if you're using a live CD
[05:58] <[NP] Tangent> I tried the dhclient config
[05:58] <eric___> I pop in the disk, answered a bunch of prompts and seemed to be loading OK.  Then the screen went blank.
[05:58] <byen> I really need this help guys... i need my Dapper to see my external USB (which it did in Breezy)
[05:58] <rongenre> FoolsRun Er.. what am I doing wrong.. i boot the dapper cd
[05:58] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> theres got to be SOME way to set your ip address manually w/o rebooting
[05:58] <apokryphos> dr_willis: note that there's a whole series there, part one, part two..... ouch ;-)
[05:58] <[NP] Tangent> but I'm still having the same problem
[05:58] <directhex|work> my suggestion is use d-i, not ubiquity, for installing
[05:58] <TheStonepedo> [NP] Tangent: www.google.com/search?q=non+censoring+dns
[05:58] <hmpedersen> I'm not going to spend any more time on this..  And you have a wifi network you want to connect to?
[05:58] <hmpedersen> It deleted /dev
[05:58] <bullium> is it possible to shade windows?
[05:58] <CokeNCode> Iam8up|lpy|dsc what is your ip range ... and do you know which IPs are already taken ?
[05:58] <TheStonepedo> then i'd plug that into system->administration->networking (if you're using gnome)
[05:58] <rongenre> FoolsRun ok, there's more to this than there used to be
[05:58] <genaus> for my usb drive works fine strange
[05:59] <surfdue> like i didnt format
[05:59] <surfdue> i just removed the part?
[05:59] <surfdue> how do i get this back!
[05:59] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - i know everything that's taken; i can use anything from 2 to about 100, but i'm oging with 88
[05:59] <chavo> bullium, right click the title bar should be shade in the menu
[05:59] <rongenre> FoolsRun yes
[05:59] <[NP] Tangent> TheStonepedo, the problem I'm having is that it keeps adding my router's IP to the DNS server list
[05:59] <[NP] Tangent> at the top
[05:59] <chavo> bullium, you can also set it to rollup on double click
[05:59] <[NP] Tangent> which causes it to not work
[05:59] <bullium> chavo, nope
[05:59] <TheStonepedo> [NP] Tangent: is there any reason not to use a static local IP?
[05:59] <FoolsRun> rongenre: you should be able to go to... uhm... system/administration/networking (or something like that, I don't have an Ubuntu install in front of me) and set up wifi0
[06:00] <sevtastic> how does one set up multiple sound sources to play at the same time?
[06:00] <bullium> chavo, since the option isn't there were do i set it up at?
[06:00] <[NP] Tangent> TheStonepedo: I'm using a static local IP
[06:00] <rongenre> FoolsRun yeah I"ve been there
[06:00] <TheStonepedo> i don't know why it would poll your router for stuff if you just set the router as a gateway
[06:00] <FoolsRun> rongenre: what doesn't work?
[06:00] <FoolsRun> or didn't work
[06:00] <byen> I really need this help guys... i need my Dapper to see my external USB (which it did in Breezy)
[06:00] <FoolsRun> or confuses you?
[06:01] <[NP] Tangent> it's only set as a gateway
[06:01] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - can you help me in this case?
[06:01] <rongenre> FoolsRun let me boot into ubuntu... the network setup didn't have my ap ssid
[06:01] <FoolsRun> byen: hang on, everyone's pretty tied up right now
[06:01] <[NP] Tangent> I don't know why it would keep reverting to using my router as a dns server
[06:01] <byen> okey FoolsRun :)
[06:01] <rongenre> foolsrun but the commandline showed it
[06:01] <rongenre> foolsrun booting the livecd
[06:01] <FoolsRun> rongenre: you have to type in your ssid, it doesn't autodetect like Windows would.
[06:02] <rongenre> foolsrun ok, got it.. it did show up, just not there
[06:02] <TheStonepedo> [NP] Tangent: are you using network-admin?
[06:02] <[NP] Tangent> yes I am
[06:02] <dr_willis> apokryphos:   wowsers - that url has some very harsh comments. :P and seems to hit the cups fiasco right on the head.
[06:03] <FoolsRun> rongenre: so in the networking settings, fill out your ssid, make sure your WEP passphrase is in there (if you have one) and the type is set to "hexedecimal", and you're set to "DHCP".
[06:03] <TheStonepedo> in your ethernet connection properties it doesn't say "DHCP" right?
[06:03] <bullium> chavo, I found it System -> Prefrences -> Windows -> Titlebar Action
[06:03] <[NP] Tangent> TheStonepedo, correct
[06:03] <apokryphos> dr_willis: indeed, and that's not a useless user rant, that guy is a very knowledgable cups developer who's set up and managed cups for other distributions before (and manages kde printing)
[06:03] <bullium> chavo, but the option still isn't there on a right click
[06:03] <chavo> bullium, yeah I was looking for that, but Im not running gnome right now
[06:03] <rongenre> foolsrun ok, it'll be a few mins
[06:03] <TheStonepedo> have you tried manually adding DNS servers?
[06:04] <FoolsRun> rongenre: unless I'm completely misunderstanding what your problem is :)
[06:04] <[NP] Tangent> yes, that's what I've been doing over and over
[06:04] <sambagirl> if i have a ssl connection does this mean that i am exempt from monitoring by Echelon for word search? since ssl is encrypted right? but i sitill need tempest techonoilogy for preventing radiation emmissions from escaping to other sensoring or monitoring technologies yes?
[06:04] <[NP] Tangent> because it keeps changing what those are
[06:04] <rongenre> foolsrun cool, thanks..
[06:04] <bullium> chavo, ok thanks...
[06:04] <TheStonepedo> [NP] Tangent: i'd say it's your router trying to force something to update DNS servers
[06:04] <Anchoito21> hola
[06:04] <FoolsRun> byen: okay, your USB drive isn't in /media?
[06:04] <Tobberoth> Is there anyway to automatically reconfigure GRUB to the optimal settings? Maybe that would fix my windows "un-bootableness"
[06:04] <CokeNCode> hmmm, i just connected to an ftp server, but even though I was connected, no commands worked ... it just spit back my commands at me ... any suggestions?
[06:05] <byen> nope FoolsRun
[06:05] <chavo> bullium, it should be there afaik
[06:05] <[NP] Tangent> TheStonepedo, the thing is that, it never did this with Breezy
[06:05] <[NP] Tangent> it's only doing it with Dapper now
[06:05] <byen> FoolsRun, the wierd thing is it worked on Breezy
[06:05] <chavo> but like I said I'm not running gnome at the moment
[06:05] <FoolsRun> byen: is the drive awake? Is the light on? Is it spinning up?
[06:05] <TheStonepedo> your router must be compatible with some hot new dapper feature
[06:05] <TheStonepedo> to your dismay
[06:05] <byen> FoolsRun, yes
[06:05] <FoolsRun> byen: and when you unplug/replug it, it doesn't magically start working?
[06:05] <TheStonepedo> i'm curious, did you upgrade or install fresh?
[06:06] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - did you log in?
[06:06] <byen> TheStonepedo, fresh install
[06:06] <CokeNCode> Iam8up|lpy|dsc it connected me automoatically it seemed ... but ...
[06:06] <Tobberoth> Anyone who can help me fix my darn windows? :(
[06:06] <FoolsRun> byen: and when you unplug/replug it, it doesn't magically start working?
[06:06] <byen> :( nope FoolsRun
[06:07] <[NP] Tangent> TheStonepedo: I upgraded
[06:07] <TheStonepedo> Tobberoth: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/114124-post3.html
[06:07] <tombs> hi all
[06:08] <PPower> hello
[06:08] <TheStonepedo> [NP] Tangent: i had a very rough time upgrading and ended up doing a full install after a few hours of fighting
[06:08] <foolip> I have both chinese and japanese fonts installed, but want the chinese fonts to be used by default when the character exists in both fonts. how can I set font priorities to achieve this?
[06:08] <Tobberoth> Thanks thestonepedo
[06:09] <[NP] Tangent> well
[06:09] <FoolsRun> Okay, guys, I'm as far as I can go (which is not far at all) trying to help byen. How might s/he check if the drive is being detected but not mounted?
[06:09] <marlun> Can I add so that /srv/ is on another harddrive then the main one?
[06:09] <mwe> foolip: I think it depends on the language defined for the document at least on web pages
[06:09] <TheStonepedo> i figured out that the ~/ folder was very handy.  it was much easier to backup before installing when everything was in my home directory
[06:09] <byen> thanks FoolsRun
[06:10] <Tobberoth> Hmm, i don't tink this will work.. GRUB finds Windows and does all the stuff up to chainloader +1
[06:10] <CokeNCode> Iam8up|lpy|dsc did you receive my private messages ?
[06:10] <Tobberoth> then it simply stops
[06:10] <TheStonepedo> would anyone recommend a tutorial on how to use tar and bzip for command line compression?
[06:10] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - did you receive mine..?
[06:10] <foolip> mwe, the problem is also in e.g. gedit, where characters are fixed between fonts. this is ugly as one is antialiased and the other isn't...
[06:10] <[NP] Tangent> yeah
[06:10] <[NP] Tangent> everything works wonderfully, but it keeps changing that dns server
[06:10] <CokeNCode> Iam8up|lpy|dsc errr ... no ...
[06:10] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> ...
[06:10] <chavo> TheStonepedo, man tar is pretty good
[06:10] <Samuli^> TheStonepedo, man tar
[06:10] <TheStonepedo> oh right
[06:11] <CokeNCode> hmmm, i've had had problems with BitchX and pm's
[06:11] <Samuli^> ;)
[06:11] <TheStonepedo> hooray man pages.  i forget linux is nice like that
[06:11] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> CokeNCode - http://pastebin.com/762637
[06:11] <mwe> foolip: ok. I don't know how to fix it though
[06:11] <Tobberoth> I don't really care if I have to format the partition WIndows is on an install it again.. my whole problem is to get grub working afterwards
[06:11] <TheStonepedo> Tobberoth: i'd recommend not using grub
[06:11] <TheStonepedo> windows is finicky and the windows bootloader can be used to load linux
[06:12] <TheStonepedo> it's an ugly way to do it but it works
[06:12] <Tobberoth> Oh?
[06:12] <Tobberoth> How?
[06:12] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> i use grub for linux/solaris/windows triple boot
[06:12] <Iam8up|lpy|dsc> i used*
[06:13] <[NP] Tangent> LILO works with windows very well
[06:13] <[NP] Tangent> dunno fi you can install it when you install Ubuntu
[06:13] <Tobberoth> grub has worked fine for me up til now.. the problem is that windows SUCK and won't boot because I made a new partition in Ubuntu >_<
[06:13] <FoolsRun> byen: hmm...
[06:13] <TheStonepedo> Tobberoth: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/3443-dual-booting-windows.html
[06:13] <CokeNCode> hmmm, why am i not seeing pm's in BitchX
[06:14] <CokeNCode> this is weird
[06:14] <byen> FoolsRun, this is amazing... it works on all OSs and worked on Breezy too
[06:14] <TheStonepedo> if you look for the word "bootloader" you'll find a lil' howto on using the windows bootloader for windows and linux
[06:14] <FoolsRun> byen: it's not NTFS formatted is it?
[06:14] <profoXP> ivoks, hello
[06:15] <byen> FoolsRun, Fat32
[06:15] <CokeNCode> Iam8up|lpy|dsc so there's no way to get pass that huh ?
[06:15] <FoolsRun> byen: and it's not mounted in /mnt, /media or on your desktop
[06:15] <profoXP> ivoks, so I rebooted with changing acpi-support and it didnt work, I have to do something in xorg.conf now ? (something with AGP)
[06:16] <chavo> Tobberoth, is your windows boot.ini on a ntfs partition?
[06:16] <Tobberoth> Yes
[06:16] <byen> FoolsRun, nope
[06:17] <chavo> well there's still a couple of ways to fix it,
[06:17] <FoolsRun> byen: I'm afraid I don't know what to tell you. I'm far from an expert. Try asking the channel again.
[06:17] <Tobberoth> I don't understand why Windows won't boot >_< I haven't touched grub or windows
[06:17] <Tobberoth> I just made some unpartitioned space into a partition
[06:17] <byen> sure FoolsRun atleast you tried :D
[06:17] <chavo> Tobberoth, you created a new partiton, and now your boot.ini points to the wrong one
[06:18] <Tobberoth> It does? The partition I created is at the end of the drive, windows is on the primary one..
[06:18] <Tobberoth> Well, teach me how to reach the boot.ini then ^^ I hear you can mount NTSF if you're skilled
[06:18] <radical> safd
[06:19] <chavo> Tobberoth, you can mount ntfs just not write to it
[06:19] <FoolsRun> Tobberoth: first you have to eat these worms and walk across this broken glass. Only then will you be l33t enough to mount NTFS.
[06:19] <Tobberoth> Hmm
[06:19] <Lorvija> chavo nowdays u can write on ntfs too.. (:
[06:19] <Tobberoth> I'll still need to write to it to fix the boot.ini right?
[06:19] <chavo> Tobberoth, you might try booting with your windows cd and running repair, then run fixboot
[06:20] <Tobberoth> chavo, i know, but that will mess up grub so I won't be able to boot into linux
[06:20] <Frogzoo> !captive
[06:20] <ubotu> from memory, captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[06:20] <dynamite> what channel can i go to get help?
[06:20] <CokeNCode> jeeze in here is a real hive of activity today, can't take your eyes off the screen for one second
[06:20] <chavo> Tobberoth, grub is easy to reinstall after that
[06:20] <iNiku> Tobberoth: install grub on a floppy so you can boot off that after fixing windows?
[06:20] <Tobberoth> chavo, but how, I can't install grub from windows..
[06:20] <chavo> CokeNCode, 958 people in here :)
[06:20] <Tobberoth> I don't have a floppy drive
[06:20] <CokeNCode> 6.06 is really bringing them out of the woodwork
[06:20] <chavo> Tobberoth, you can use your ubuntu cd
[06:20] <Kejk_PL> Is there enywhere list of known probles like Kubuntu have? (wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperKnownProblems)
[06:21] <Frogzoo> dynamite: this is the ubuntu support channel - if you need ubuntu support, you're in the right place
[06:21] <Tobberoth> Chavo, how do I use my ubuntu CD for it? I know how to boot into liveCD, but I don't know how to install grub from a liveCD OS
[06:21] <cvegas> hola
[06:22] <chavo> Tobberoth, you just mount your ubuntu partiton, then run chroot on it
[06:22] <cvegas> me llamo rocio
[06:22] <chavo> Tobberoth, then you can run grub-install
[06:22] <Frogzoo> CokeNCode: the dapper cd torrent has > 1000 seeds :)
[06:22] <apokryphos> !es
[06:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:22] <cvegas> no soy guiri
[06:22] <profoXP> ivoks, i am trying this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaLaptopBinaryDriverSuspend?highlight=%28suspend%29
[06:22] <Tobberoth> and grub-install will automatically find windows etc?
[06:23] <profoXP> Tobberoth, yes
[06:23] <BetteS> I have a problem whit installing cups-pdf, ubuntu does not seams to detect the new "printer" in the new printer interface
[06:23] <chavo> Tobberoth, it'll just reload grub into your mbr
[06:23] <Lorvija> Frogzoo how many peers? (:
[06:23] <profoXP> Tobberoth, the newest live (desktop) cd will have an icon on the desktop "Install"
[06:23] <FoolsRun> rongenre:  any luck?
[06:23] <profoXP> Tobberoth, doubleclick it and you are off. be carefull at partiionaning if you dont know what you're doing
[06:23] <Tobberoth> I know profoXP, but that installs the whole OS
[06:23] <profoXP> Tobberoth, do you only want half the os ?
[06:23] <profoXP> :)
[06:24] <Tobberoth> profoXP:  I onlt want grub :9 I have the OS allready
[06:24] <Frogzoo> Lorvija: 223
[06:24] <miranda82> hello everyone
[06:24] <Lorvija> Frogzoo heh okay, nice ratio (:
[06:24] <chavo> Tobberoth, whatever is in your menu.list now will be there
[06:24] <cvegas> tengo 13 aos
[06:24] <miranda82> does anyone know, why i cant mount a cd? Jun  6 18:19:53 localhost kernel: [4295075.027000]  Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
[06:24] <Lorvija> miranda82 the cd might be corrupted?
[06:24] <cvegas> no entiendo nada
[06:24] <Tobberoth> Well, I'll go repair the windows install.. then hope for the best ^
[06:25] <miranda82> Lorvija, nop,e i can read it on amcos
[06:25] <Hoxzer> Has somebody here got dmix work with TS?
[06:25] <miranda82> Lorvija, macos
[06:25] <profoXP> Tobberoth, ooh, right.. i dont know if its possible with the ubuntu cd, but it should be possible with grub-install, my buddy phar0z is an expert with grub :) but he seems to be offline right now :(
[06:25] <Lorvija> miranda82 okay, then wait for someone more intelligent than me to help (:
[06:25] <sempereademfr> Hi everyone, I'm gonna need some help with lm-sensors, I've just installed it and here is my problem: ju@ju-desktop:~$ sensors-detect
[06:25] <sempereademfr> No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.
[06:25] <sempereademfr> ju@ju-desktop:~$ sensors
[06:25] <sempereademfr> No sensors found!
[06:25] <miranda82> Lorvija, thx anyway...
[06:25] <livevil> I'm configuring samba, when I edit "    vi /etc/samba/user" I insert my username and password and the a command for permission, but after what should I do to save the file?
[06:25] <sempereademfr> and when I type : sh ./prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh, it says taht there is no such file
[06:25] <profoXP> Tobberoth, windows repair will fix the MBR but it will destroy grub anyway, so you can only boot windows, afaik
[06:26] <cvegas> espaol prfavor
[06:26] <livevil> someone can help me?
[06:26] <apokryphos> cvegas: /join #ubuntu-es
[06:26] <Lorvija> uhm.. miranda82 does it have copy protection? (:
[06:26] <Tobberoth> profoXP: I know.. but hopefully I can fix linux afterwards
[06:26] <chavo> profoXP, he know that I'm telling him how to fix grub with the live cd
[06:26] <Lorvija> just crossed my mind..
[06:26] <miranda82> Lorvija, nope
[06:26] <Lorvija> data or music cd?
[06:26] <miranda82> Lorvija, it is a cd, i recorded myself with data onn it
[06:26] <Lorvija> or something else
[06:26] <Lorvija> miranda82 did you burn it with mac?
[06:26] <miranda82> nope
[06:26] <chavo> Tobberoth, when you get to that point and boot up the live cd, come back here and I'll walk you through it
[06:26] <JimBunder> Hey I need some help, I need to find out how to apply this patch to wine, everyone says its differnt for debain
[06:27] <JimBunder> http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2006-April/046683.html
[06:27] <Lorvija> miranda82 with ubuntu then?
[06:27] <FoolsRun> Lorvija: MacOS burnt CDs aren't copy protected any more than Windows or Linux burnt CDs are.
[06:27] <miranda82> of course they aren't..
[06:27] <duarte> can someone help me... I uninstallled firefox on ubuntu dapper drake... How can i recue my system?
[06:28] <miranda82> btw they're not recorded on amc
[06:28] <Lorvija> FoolsRun aye.. i just sometimes have had problems burning cds in one os and when taking them to another because the format is the certain burning program has used is weird...
[06:28] <bullrage> when i change priveliges on a drive, how do i make them apply to all folders on the disk?
[06:28] <Frogzoo> !tell Tobberoth about grubrestore
[06:28] <rongenre> foolsrun, booting still... had a hold up on my end
[06:28] <tritium> duarte: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop should pull it back in
[06:28] <Lorvija> FoolsRun for example windows > windows or windows > ubuntu etc.. (:
[06:28] <FoolsRun> duarte: how is your system screwed up? all you did was remove FireFox.
[06:28] <iiiears> Alex Fienman's free iso burner powertoy seems to work pretty well.
[06:29] <czer323> duarte> I belive you could just type "sudo apt-get install firefox" and it'll try to reinstall firefox if that's what you're looking for.
[06:29] <dr_willis> iiiears:  i also like 'burn at once' for my windows-iso needs.
[06:29] <bullium> duarte, it will be under mozilla-firefox
[06:29] <iiiears> dr_willis: Haven't tried that. - sounds good.
[06:29] <dr_willis> iiiears:  only issue with it - it 'tries' to burn dvd isos' but cant. :P
[06:30] <JimBunder> Can anyone help me with patching wine while I compile it? please message me!
[06:30] <iiiears> the iso burnher powertoy broke for DVDs with SP2 also.
[06:30] <Frogzoo> JimBunder: follow this link:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[06:30] <dr_willis> iiiears:  oh?  i never noticed them ever working with dvd. :P
[06:31] <bullium> duarte, nope I was wrong just firefox will do :)
[06:31] <Frogzoo> JimBunder: why are you patching wine?
[06:31] <miranda82> Lorvija, solved with mount -t auto
[06:31] <nab> where should i go for help with my wireless card? i have that darned broadcom 4318 :@
[06:31] <Lorvija> miranda82 okay, nice job (:
[06:32] <iiiears> dr_willis:  Is there a free utility for burning DVDs in windows?
[06:32] <dr_willis> iiiears:  not that ive noticed. I normally use nero. :P
[06:32] <Tobberoth> I have one problem.. how do I know the root password for the liveCD?
[06:32] <dr_willis> Tobberoth:  there is none
[06:33] <Tobberoth> allright
[06:33] <byen> can anyone tell me how to mount my external USB hdd (which mounted auto on Breezy)
[06:33] <dr_willis> !mount
[06:33] <ubotu> somebody said mount was the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f