[16:49] <sipior> nsgn: actually, i'm a liar. look here for a preliminary gui effort: http://code.google.com/p/flyback/
[16:49] <Xerpod> markl_: I have a couple of ubuntu machines, 9.04, separated by a 100Mbps leased line. The two can communicate happily for a while, but when there is a moment of network inactivity (like when I go home :)) the connection drops. Re-establishing the connection takes a long time. A tried running arping and tcpdump on both sides, and the ARP broadcasts don't get through... until about 100 of them have passed, then they work? :| The only kit inbetween is a cisc
[16:50] <nsgn> sipior: ah, ok, i'll take a look. i may well just do it via plain ol rsync and a mounted disk image. where do i get a crash course in a good type of disk image for this setup?
[16:50] <DarthPidgin> list
[16:51] <DarthPidgin> Hollah! ;]
[16:51] <phearless> hi
[16:51] <phearless> how could I keep the sysstat data for a month, not for one week as it's by default ?
[16:52] <DarthPidgin> phearless, check /etc/sysstat/systat
[16:52] <mbeierl> Is it possible to change the location of fuse mount point from "~/.gvfs" to another location?
[16:52] <MartinE> hi all
[16:53] <iMatter> Hello, i am having Audio problems, i have no audio but apparently the system beep is still working.
[16:53] <phearless> thanks DarthPidgin , that's great !
[16:53] <MartinE> trying to install ubuntu from my usb memory stick. PC booted up ubuntu no problem but I have a text based initramfs. I've typed help for a list of commands but have no idea what to do. I basically want to install ubuntu to the HDD. Can someone advise pls?
[16:53] <jipsy> is this wer we chat?
[16:53] <DarthPidgin> phearless, no prob!
[16:53] <sipior> nsgn: not sure, exactly. why a disk image, instead of just a subdirectory on your backup filesystem?
[16:53] <jipsy> weak
[16:53] <Pici> jipsy: This is the official Ubuntu support channel.
[16:54] <jipsy> hi everyone!!!! im having trouble with my desktop effects...i keep losing it everytime i rebot....HELPP! ^^
[16:54] <mneptok> MartinE: did you use the liveusb-creator-ubuntu package to create the USB disk?
[16:54] <MartinE> yes, I used the create usb from my other pc running ubuntu mneptok
[16:55] <Xerpod> Oh, while I'm here - anyone else have problems / solution for the screen resolution changing each time I reboot? Ubuntu 9.04 & Nvidia
[16:55] <mneptok> MartinE: did you checksum the .iso you used?
[16:55] <nsgn> sipior: 1) it's on a windows server and i don't trust the integrity of how NTFS handles individual file attributes, 2) NTFS fragmentation (a big issue on this server) is much easier to manage without dumping a whole system's worth of 30,000 files on it 3) i'm about to bring a second server into the situation and portability of this backup file would be nice since i'm undecided where my backup will reside long term
[16:55] <InCubaTor> jackd and ffado almost work now.... but after some seconds jackd stops. here i have some info: http://www.pastie.org/563702 http://www.pastie.org/563696
[16:55] <MartinE> the original iso was downloaded directly from ubuntu and has installed within windows on my other pc without problems. I haven't checksummed the usb
[16:56] <J1m_> does anyone know the name of the gui network configuration tool in 9.04?  It no longer seems to be in the menus.
[16:56] <nsgn> sipior: i'd just love one file stored on NTFS that mounts up as a local r/w filesystem on ubuntu. i did it constantly on macosx/bsd using apple's disk image format and rsync to backup
[16:56] <jethro> i am having trouble getting flash player to work with firefox 3.5 in Intrepid AMD64. I installed firefox 3.5 with ubuntuzilla, can anyone help me out???
[16:56] <MartinE> it says BusyBox v1.1.3 built in shell at the top of my screen
[16:57] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, what kind of graphics card do you have?
[16:57] <jipsy> everytime is restart my laptop i keep losing my desktop effects...y is dat?
[16:57] <jipsy> intel
[16:57] <thehit4hire> I have a noob question for somone to answer?
[16:58] <michalxo> hey all! was PAudio "defaulted" to 8.10?
[16:58] <xangua> jipsy: read the release note
[16:58] <michalxo> or still on alsa
[16:58] <thehit4hire> I am getting a very loud click noise from my speakers when I try to play a sound?
[16:58] <jethro> i am having trouble getting flash player to work with firefox 3.5 in Intrepid AMD64. I installed firefox 3.5 with ubuntuzilla, can anyone help me out???
[16:58] <J1m> does anyone know the name of the gui network configuration tool in 9.04?  It no longer seems to be in the menus.
[16:58] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, did you previously use or are you using compiz?
[16:58] <BlueEagle> !flash | jethro
[16:58] <jipsy> yes i am
[16:58] <michalxo> jethro, try installing mozilla-flasplugin-nonfree
[16:58] <xangua> jipsy: no privates, read the topic
[16:58] <jipsy> wer the realease note?
[16:59] <InCubaTor> jackd and ffado almost work now.... but after some seconds jackd stops. here i have some info: http://www.pastie.org/563702 http://www.pastie.org/563696
[16:59] <InCubaTor> anoyone?
[16:59] <panfist> is there a reason that installing apache on ubuntu defaults to apache2.conf loading a blank httpd.conf?
[16:59] <DarthPidgin> xangua, I Can't remember any trouble in the combi Intel <> compiz
[16:59] <InCubaTor> anyone+
[17:00] <xangua> jum...................
[17:00] <thehit4hire> Would there be a reason for the loud clicking?
[17:00] <Jordanmota> any ideas why FireFox is a tad slow, like with scrolling the page etc ?
[17:00] <jipsy> well im having one
[17:00] <jipsy> got any ideas in what i shud do?
[17:00] <MartinE> do u think that it failed to correcly make a boot disk ?
[17:00] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, I mean, not the hardware support kinda problem
[17:00] <SnakDoc> thehit4hire u use pidgin ?
[17:00] <nsgn> i'm just having one heck of a time finding a read/write disk image approach for ubuntu
[17:00] <thehit4hire> Yes
[17:01] <jipsy> anybody?
[17:01] <michalxo> jipsy, ?
[17:01] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, are your ccsm settings all right?
[17:02] <thehit4hire> SnakDoc I am using pidgin
[17:02] <SnakDoc> thehit4hire thats whats making noise i use to have that issue i found cutting sound down would fix it but still no idea as to y it does that
[17:02] <jipsy> yeah it worked but when i reboot i lost all my effects
[17:02] <sipior> nsgn: well, those are good reasons, although i'd just avoid ntfs to begin with (realising grudgingly that that may not be entirely realistic for some)
[17:02] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, If so: try compiz --replace from the terminal, what does it say?
[17:03] <ingcomrbr> How can I share a printer on my net.. I got windows XP and I want share with LAN ..
[17:03] <SnakDoc> thehit4hire i switched to Empathy which is going to be default far as i know in 9.10 and it works without static noise
[17:03] <jipsy> then i again make another cube then i again reboot my laptop then again i lost my previous setting with compiz
[17:03] <nsgn> sipior: oh i know, but ntfs is the reality on this server. that isnt changing. am i just googling horribly or is there really no common read/write disk image methods for linux/ubuntu?
[17:03] <jipsy> wat do i type in the terminal?? compiz?
[17:04] <DarthPidgin> "compiz --replace"
[17:04] <thehit4hire> SnakDoc When i first installed ubuntu on my laptop the sound worked great. Then all of a sudden about four hours later anytime I try playing a sound the speakers start making a very loud and fast clicking noise. I dont know hat would cause this
[17:04] <jipsy> ok wait ill try
[17:04] <mbeierl> Is it possible to change the location of fuse mount point from "~/.gvfs" to another location?
[17:04] <sipior> nsgn: well, you'd generally make use of the loop device under mount, but i'm not sure how that reacts with samba. not something i've ever tried.
[17:04] <jrib> nsgn: what do you mean by "linux filesystem"?
[17:04] <Jordanmota> I have a ATI Radeon Xpress 200 (on board graphic chip). Is there a driver I should download & install, or not bother?
[17:05] <rootlinuxusr> how do i format a drive with ntfs-3g I've got it down to mkfs.ntfs? /dev/sdb1 but I cannot figure which fs to specify
[17:05] <SnakDoc> thehit4hire not sure maybe someone else here will know more about sound and can help better mine was just with pidgin
[17:05] <thehit4hire> Snakdoc: Thanks
[17:05] <yabuk> there is no openoffice.org-ogltrans to isntall, how can I get openGL transition on opeoffice 3.0.1? (I'm using ubuntu 9.04)
[17:05] <nsgn> jrib: i mean a single file that can be stored on the NTFS server, but mounted over here it would be a linux native filesystem i can rsync into without any concern over loss of file attributes, etc
[17:06] <MartinE> can someone tell me the correct procedure to create a bootable usb stick so I can install ubuntu on my laptop whose dvd is broken
[17:06] <nsgn> ext3 or the like
[17:06] <jrib> nsgn: I see.  Why not just tar.gz your backup?
[17:06] <snadge> my sun java isnt working on 64bit ubuntu jaunty, i've tried googling.. is there a factoid or can someone point me to how to get 64bit java to work in a web browser (firefox) on jaunty?
[17:06] <masquerade> MartinE: theres an article on the wiki..
[17:06] <nsgn> jrib: can i update a tar.gz file weekly without re-creating?
[17:06] <thehit4hire> When i first installed ubuntu on my laptop the sound worked great. Then all of a sudden about four hours later anytime I try playing a sound the speakers start making a very loud and fast clicking noise. Would anyone know what would cause this?
[17:06] <xangua> snadge: have you installed the java plugin ¿¿
[17:07] <xangua> yabuk: it was removed because stability issues
[17:07] <snadge> xangua: i have installed the java plugin.. the problem seems to be the applets fail to initialize/launch properly
[17:07] <nanotube> thehit4hire: could be that you need to restart pulseaudio?
[17:07] <yabuk> xangua: so, there is no way to use it?!!!!!!
[17:07] <yabuk> *is there
[17:08] <xangua> wait untill next ubuntu release¿¿ yabuk
[17:08] <thehit4hire> nanotube: Oh ok how would I go about doing that? I have never used ubuntu before today.
[17:08] <yabuk> xangua,ok, thanks
[17:08] <syntax> What was the update for in ubuntu?
[17:08] <michalxo> hey guys! having PA issue with freshly upgraded 8.10 from 8.04
[17:09] <michalxo> http://pastebin.ca/1511162
[17:09] <nanotube> thehit4hire: oh... well in that case, easiest thing is to just reboot, and see if that helps, rather than manually hunt the pulseaudio processes :)
[17:09] <jrib> nsgn: well I know you can with a regular tar but I'm not aware of backup systems to take advantage of this
[17:09] <VCoolio> thehit4hire: "sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart" in terminal should do it
[17:10] <nsgn> jrib: so how the heck are people backing up that dont want to take a fresh 100gb image every week, nor do they want 30,000+ files sprawling on a remote server?
[17:10] <nanotube> VCoolio: that doesn't work for me when my pulseaudio is dead, have to manually kill processes...
[17:10] <jrib> nsgn: they do the sane thing and use an actual linux filesystem...
[17:10] <nanotube> VCoolio: hence, i don't suggest it...
[17:10] <DarthPidgin> nsgn, they only back up what is changed ;}
[17:10] <VCoolio> nanotube: ok, fair enough
[17:10] <sipior> nsgn: interesting discussion here, for your perusal: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=246500
[17:11] <jrib> !backup > nsgn
[17:11] <nanotube> nsgn: try "rsnapshot". it's doing great for me.
[17:11] <nanotube> nsgn: another thing to try is "rdiff-backup"
[17:11] <jrib> nsgn: I would go through the options presented there, visit the official sites and search the documentation for "ntfs".  That may give you a lead
[17:11] <VCoolio> nanotube: isn't there a "force reload" option that would work?
[17:11] <thehit4hire> nanotube: I rebooted the PC a few minutes ago and when it logged back in the computer played the startup sounds fine but no mp3's movies or other system sounds will correctly play?
[17:12] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, still alive?
[17:12] <sipior> nsgn: looks like it may be possible to loop-mount a file-image that has been exported via smb.
[17:12] <Pr0Br0> ha shit i partitioned with gparted and now i can't boot lol
[17:12] <nanotube> VCoolio: read the source of /etc/init.d/pulseaudio, force-reload and restart do the same thing.
[17:12] <dagama> I am trying to check the size of a partition through SSH, what command should I use?
[17:13] <nanotube> VCoolio: at any rate, even "stop" doesn't kill the processes when pulseaudio is hung. so... :)
[17:13] <cellofellow> dagama: fdisk -l
[17:13] <jrib> nsgn: if that doesn't prove fruitful, then look at how wubi works...
[17:13] <nanotube> thehit4hire: hrm... then i'm a bit out of ideas.
[17:13] <jipsy> darthpidgin it sais that unknown option
[17:14] <nsgn> sipior: well, if we say for the moment that this isnt practical or possible, of dumping all the files on ntfs or just running the full 100gb image each week i'd rather run the full image. is there any method for doing so with the filesystem mounted?
[17:14] <dagama> cellofellow: that doesn't give any feedback
[17:15] <thehit4hire> nanotube: I have searched online but to no avail. I have realtek ACL250.
[17:15] <jipsy> when i typed "compiz --repair" the computer read and the screen was like reading then it told me that "unknown option"
[17:15] <cellofellow> dagama: you have to supply the disk you want to list. fdisk -l /dev/sda for example
[17:15] <mook> hey guys i need some help in installing something any takers on helping a village idiot ?
[17:15] <DarthPidgin> it's 'compiz --replace'
[17:15] <qwyeth> !ask
[17:15] <cellofellow> dagama: oh, it gives the size in blocks, hm
[17:15] <jipsy> ok ill try again
[17:15] <Pr0Br0> hey is there any way i can mark a ntfs drive as active under ubuntu? the only way i'm aware of is the supergrub cd
[17:16] <sipior> nsgn: you know, one possibility would be to generate the filesystem diffs with rsnapshot, saving them to a loop filesystem on your linux box, then push that image out to your ntfs filesystem.
[17:16] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, so first open gnome-terminal, then type compiz --replace
[17:16] <mook> ok im trying to install the livedvd file thing so i can play dvd's
[17:16] <erUSUL> Pr0Br0: active ? you mean bootable ?
[17:16] <cellofellow> dagama: never mind the, not sure which command will give you the size in GB.
[17:16] <Pr0Br0> yeah erUSUL
[17:16] <jipsy> now my monitor blinked trice and sed xgl no present
[17:16] <nsgn> sipior: and unfortunately thats over my head at this time
[17:16] <erUSUL> Pr0Br0: gparted/parted/fdisk/cfdisk should be able to do that
[17:16] <qwyeth> mook: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[17:17] <nsgn> sipior: coming from bsd i know many of the utilities but lack the under the hood linux specifics
[17:17] <mook> libdvdread3<---- trying to install this how do i do it ?
[17:17] <mbeierl> does anyone here know anything about fuse and/or gvfs on ubuntu?
[17:17] <MerlinW> i think, the DVD version is not live
[17:17] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, and further?
[17:17] <nsgn> i think i just got spoiled by apple's excellent and completely smooth ability to use read/write disk images from a remote network share
[17:17] <dagama> cellofellow: ok :)
[17:17] <mook> hmm
[17:17] <MerlinW> never was
[17:17] <asfasfsasa> I'm not african-american, how do you pronounce ubuntu and not look like an idiot?
[17:18] <MerlinW> but bootable
[17:18] <arand> mook: apt-get install libdvdread3 ?
[17:18] <DarthPidgin> oebuntoe
[17:18] <Pr0Br0> hey thanks erUSUL i'll try that out, just throw that in the terminal?
[17:18] <jipsy> it paused...im still waiting...theres still a square box
[17:18] <DarthPidgin> :]
[17:18] <seyacat> hi ubuntu
[17:18] <Pici> asfasfsasa: The proper way is: ooh-boon-too
[17:18] <seyacat> do you know command to launch gnome sound prefences?
[17:18] <mook> i'll give it a shot im new to linux
[17:18] <DarthPidgin> that 'boon' depends on where you are from :0
[17:18] <erUSUL> Pr0Br0: this are fourd different partitions editors for linux... gparted is graphical
[17:18] <deany> I say oo-bun-2  :)
[17:18] <asfasfsasa> sudo rm -rf /*
[17:18] <erUSUL> !gparted | Pr0Br0
[17:19] <scavenger> @seyacat: gnome-sound-properties
[17:19] <Pici> !danger | asfasfsasa
[17:19] <thehit4hire> When i first installed ubuntu on my laptop the sound worked great. Then all of a sudden about four hours later anytime I try playing a sound the speakers start making a very loud and fast clicking noise. Would anyone know what would cause this?
[17:19] <sipior> nsgn: you can have a look at the "LOOP" section of the mount manual, to start. it may be that you can now mount image files mounted via samba, so give it a try.
[17:19] <erUSUL> !danger | asfasfsasa
[17:19] <otacon122> Are there programs for Ubuntu Server to regulate bandwidth?  I'm wanting a program or a tool that can regulate bandwidth on a per-application, per-connection, or per-time basis
[17:19] <erUSUL> !info trickle | otacon122
[17:19] <ingcomrbr> otancon122, squid
[17:19] <arand> mook: ok, I'd suggest using synaptic package manager otherwise, it's probably more begginer friendly.
[17:19] <seyacat> scavenger: i think than, but its not that command
[17:19] <asfasfsasa> I installed ubuntu, now my PC makes shrieking voices and craves KFC and watermellons, what do I do?
[17:20] <sipior> asfasfsasa: go away.
[17:20] <blind|melon|chit> !ops
[17:20] <jiohdi> asf, dont call it boy
[17:20] <Pr0Br0> your computer has been turned into an african american
[17:20] <asfasfsasa> NIGGERBUNTU, LINUX FOR SUBHUMAN BEINGS
[17:20] <jipsy> hmm the square thing just kept blinking...maybe its waiting for me to type something..shud i type compiz --replace again?
[17:20] <sipior> it's still the 21st century, right?
[17:21] <joh> Hi, I'm unable to get apt to authenticate against my proxy. I'm using export http_proxy=http://user:pass@server:port/, but get 407 Proxy Authentication Required
[17:21] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, if you use alt-f2 you can type it in again and you don't have to worry when you close the gnome-terminal window
[17:21] <nsgn> so right now it's looking like i should just DD this sucker and get on with life?
[17:21] <ingcomrbr> ikonia, Why you banned to blind?
[17:21] <thehit4hire> When i first installed ubuntu on my laptop the sound worked great. Then all of a sudden about four hours later anytime I try playing a sound the speakers start making a very loud and fast clicking noise.  I have no idea what is causing this. I have searched online but to no avail. I just cant figure this out.
[17:23] <scavenger> @joskebakskes - Busybox is a very basic binary file which contains ls, cat and other commands that should be on every Linux terminal.
[17:23] <xangua> !medibuntu | mook
[17:23] <arand> mook: libdvdread4 is an existing package for 9.04 Jaunty
[17:23] <panfist> where can i read about what the permissions mask means when using chmod?
[17:23] <jipsy> dunno i tried to close the terminal it sed that theres still a porcess going on closing it wil terminate the process
[17:23] <qwyeth> mook:  The page I linked you has two very simple commands that tell you how to install libdvdread4
[17:23] <joskebakskes> Someone helps... I want busybox advice :(
[17:23] <spO> how do i connect to Ubuntu in a gui console/similar to remote desktop other than VNC?   i would like to be able to start an independent session rather than taking control of another with vnc
[17:23] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, tried to reload pulseaudio?
[17:24] <scavenger> @jiohdi: Pidgin should do the trick.
[17:24] <arand> mook: so, look for it and install it in synaptic?
[17:24] <michalxo> anyone to help me with a soundcard and PA? aplay -l aplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found   + http://pastebin.ca/1511175
[17:24] <scavenger> @joskebakskes: What kind of advice?
[17:24] <mook> oh ok ty i'll try them thank you vary much and the commands are done in a terminal ?
[17:24] <michel_> bonjour
[17:24] <joskebakskes> scavenger: what is busybox....
[17:24] <mook> um ok i'll try it in thare then
[17:25] <ingcomrbr> ikonia, you shouldn't do that
[17:25] <mook> Arand ty for the info
[17:25] <michalxo> Anyone to help me with a soundcard and PA I am on 8.10? aplay -l aplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found   + http://pastebin.ca/1511175
[17:25] <Myrtti> ingcomrbr: he knows what he's doing
[17:25] <lstarnes> joskebakskes: it's a lightweight shell containing many basic lightweight utilities
[17:25] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: I tried that and also tried rebooting. When the computer starts back up it plays the startup sound fine but then it will not play mp3's or any other system sound either
[17:25] <ingcomrbr> mmmmm
[17:25] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, tried dpkg-reconfigure ?
[17:25] <bobbob1016> I'm trying to install Ubuntu via an alternate ppc install disc on a spare mac mini.  I have it booting via a powerbook in target disk mode since the CD-Rom in the mini is dead.  It gets to "detecting CD-Rom" then it can't find it.  Any ideas?
[17:25] <jethro> Whenever I try to play an .avi file the player automatically closes. I have tried Totem, VLC, and Mplayer with the same results, does anyone know what might be causing this?
[17:26] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: Not yet but will now.
[17:26] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire,   do you know how to use it?
[17:26] <spO> so none of you know a way to connect to a remote gui session of ubuntu other than vnc?
[17:26] <michalxo> tightvnc :)
[17:27] <scavenger> @sp0 You could try FreeNX.
[17:27] <spO> thanks
[17:27] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: I just assumed I would run it as a command in the terminal but I have only been using ubuntu about 8 hours.
[17:27] <ikonia> ingcomrbr: if you want to discuss it - please join #ubuntu-ops, it's not for this channel
[17:27] <cellofellow> spO: yeah, FreeNX, and also there's just remote X11 sessions.
[17:27] <papapep> spO: ssh's -X feature
[17:27] <papapep> cellofellow: exactly
[17:27] <cellofellow> spO: networked X11 is only good on a fast LAN though.
[17:28] <Sp0tter> Will Jaunty work out of the box on a new Mac Mini?  I would like to dual boot osx and ubuntu.
[17:28] <ikonia> Sp0tter: should do
[17:28] <Sp0tter> The people in #mac say that linux on a mac is a bad idea.
[17:28] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure pulseaudio'
[17:28] <jethro> Whenever I try to play an .avi file the player automatically closes. I have tried Totem, VLC, and Mplayer with the same results, does anyone know what might be causing this?
[17:28] <ikonia> Sp0tter: I've ran it fine
[17:28] <sipior> Sp0tter: well, i guess they would :-)
[17:28] <Sp0tter> :)
[17:28] <cellofellow> snuxoll says it's a good idea. :)
[17:28] <Sp0tter> i love you guys
[17:29] <qwyeth> Sp0tter:  I know someone who uses Linux on a Mac... He uses a distro called Yellow Dog Linux and I hear it works very well.
[17:29] <Pr0Br0> i love you to
[17:29] <snuxoll> cellofellow: I say what's a good idea?
[17:29] <michalxo> anyone to help me with a soundcard and PA? aplay -l aplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found   + http://pastebin.ca/1511175
[17:29] <cellofellow> snuxoll: linux on a mac
[17:29] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, oh: and "sudo dpkg-reconfigure pulseaudio-utils"
[17:29] <michalxo> anyone pls? :-(
[17:29] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: Ok
[17:29] <snuxoll> cellofellow: no I don't
[17:29] <cellofellow> oops, wrong
[17:29] <snuxoll> cellofellow: getting linux running on EFI is still painful as hell
[17:29] <panfist> i'm having trouble with a samba share. i have read only as no, writeable as yes, but i still can't overwrite existing files. i can create new ones, and delete them
[17:30] <Sp0tter> Can the osx partition be resized without reinstalling?  I'm brand new to macs.. this is my first one (which I am forced to get for iPhone development).. and I have only moderate linux experience
[17:30] <nsgn> sipior: my issue is creating one. what am i looking at here? an iso? what format is preferred in linux?
[17:30] <jethro> for some reason i cant play .avi files. can anyone help me out??
[17:30] <Sp0tter> trying to expand my horizons
[17:30] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, How are things working out?
[17:30] <Pr0Br0> okay so i'm on gparted, i'm staring right at my 90gb windows partition and i've explored the program and i see no way to make it bootable :(
[17:31] <Sp0tter> jethro I've found that when I can't play things, if I install VLC player,  that problem goes away
[17:31] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: Still very loud knocking .....constantly
[17:31] <jethro> sp0tter i have tried with VLC it closes as soon as it opens.
[17:31] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, can you describe the sound?
[17:31] <michalxo> realy none to help? :(
[17:31] <jethro> sp0tter it is the same with all media players with all .avi files
[17:31] <michalxo> aplay -l aplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found   + http://pastebin.ca/1511175
[17:31] <sipior> nsgn: have a look here for a good example:
[17:32] <sipior> nsgn: http://www.walkernews.net/2007/07/01/create-linux-loopback-file-system-on-disk-file/
[17:32] <mook> should i reboot after this or ?
[17:32] <jethro> Whenever I try to play an .avi file the player automatically closes. I have tried Totem, VLC, and Mplayer with the same results, does anyone know what might be causing this?
[17:32] <nsgn> sipior: excellent, reading
[17:33] <om26er> plz tell me how to move directory from terminal
[17:33] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: Best description that I can give is a freakin wood pecker on my front door. Very annoying.
[17:33] <jipsy> hey it worked thnx darthpidgin!!!! ^^ lastly dude do you know wer i can copy a setup for my desktop effects??any good set up will do
[17:33] <cellofellow> om26er: mv /source/directory /target/directory
[17:33] <Quiznos> mornin
[17:34] <cellofellow> Quiznos: have any sandwiches to share?
[17:34] <Quiznos> sure
[17:34] <Quiznos> it's lunch time
[17:34] <Pr0Br0> do i click manage flags on gparted make the partition bootable?
[17:34] <michalxo> Help pls aplay -l aplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found   + http://pastebin.ca/1511175
[17:34] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, back up  ~/.gconf/apps/compiz
[17:34] <jethro> Whenever I try to play an .avi file the player automatically closes.  But it's such a simple something. Right. Checked your alsa/gnome mixer for the settings (try to dim your mic, for instance)
[17:37] <jipsy> ohh..aye2x capt!! but im looking for a gud setting that i cud just copy and make it my setting..got any ideas?
[17:37] <surgy> so i just logged back into ubuntu after about a while and noticed that we are now at 9.04? WOOT! anyways, my question is, is it really worth it to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04? and what am i going to see thyats better?
[17:37] <DarthPidgin> jipsy, nope, that is something you have to do yourself. ;)
[17:37] <Quiznos> surgy read the Changelog.txt
[17:38] <DarthPidgin> surgy, YES
[17:38] <surgy> Quiznos, where?
[17:38]  * man3x is away (I`am Out)
[17:38] <michalxo> guys pls help me with that pulseaudio in 8.10
[17:38] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: No luck
[17:38] <Quiznos> no idar; i'm a reject from ##Linux
[17:38] <Quiznos> :)
[17:38] <Quiznos> im loitering here.
[17:38] <jipsy> oohhh ok...thnx dude...jejeje
[17:38] <AaronT1251> surgy, 9.04 is better, but if your happy with 8.10 you don't have to upgrade
[17:38] <surgy> DarthPidgin, so 9.04 pwbns on 8.10? how so?
[17:38] <igneousquill> surgy: That all depends on what you want.  I don't upgrade my 8.10 desktop at home because my family is used to it.  I upgraded immediately to 9.04 on my laptop and I like it.  Works well either way.
[17:39] <michalxo> Guys pls help me with that pulseaudio in 8.10.. no sound at all
[17:39] <michalxo> I am stuck
[17:39] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, what does executing 'cat /etc/asound.conf' give?
[17:39] <jethro> cellofellow it kept repeating"X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)?,?% 0 0 "
[17:39] <surgy> igneousquill, what do you like about 9.04 over 8.10?
[17:39] <DarthPidgin> surgy, so many better things, just try it out. :)
[17:39] <Quiznos> jethro what app did that?
[17:39] <michalxo> surgy, try LiveCD
[17:39] <cellofellow> jethro: oh, dear. not sure what that means. Sounds like video driver problems.
[17:40] <jethro> quiznos mplayer
[17:40] <Quiznos> hmm
[17:40] <Quiznos> jethro latest ver of that?
[17:40] <DarthPidgin> surgy, what michalxo  says. good way to try
[17:40] <jethro> cellofellow i am having a nightmare with my video card
[17:40] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: Do I just enter that in the terminal?
[17:40] <jethro> i am using the apt-get install of it
[17:40] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, jup
[17:40] <surgy> ok thnx for the medocre information everyone
[17:40] <Quiznos> lol
[17:40] <Quiznos> yw
[17:40] <surgy> and il lsee you on the 9.04 side!
[17:40] <jethro> quiznos i installed with apt-get
[17:40] <Quiznos> we aim to disappoint :)
[17:40] <Quiznos> jethro ok
[17:40] <DarthPidgin> :] lol
[17:40] <surgy> lol
[17:40] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: It says no such file or directory
[17:40]  * Quiznos bows
[17:40] <Quiznos> ty tyvm.
[17:41] <Quiznos> it's good to be portable
[17:41] <michalxo> guys.. pls.. PA problem.. many inforomations, but crappy old sound card :(
[17:41] <jipsy> dude wer can i download cool backgrounds for my cube? ^^
[17:41] <DarthPidgin>     type pulse
[17:41] <DarthPidgin> }
[17:41] <DarthPidgin> ctl.pulse {
[17:41] <DarthPidgin>     type pulse
[17:41] <DarthPidgin> }
[17:41] <FloodBot3> DarthPidgin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:41] <DarthPidgin> pcm.!default {
[17:41] <Quiznos> jipsy bed, bath and beyond?
[17:41] <cellofellow> jethro: try different video output "drivers" (mplayer output plugins). mplayer -vo help to get a list.
[17:42] <jipsy> what that mean?
[17:42] <cellofellow> jethro: I think it defaults to xv but might want to fiddle with that.
[17:42] <michalxo> DarthPidgin, pardon me?
[17:42] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, sorry, i was flooding... O_o
[17:42] <Quiznos> mplayer -vo xv|fbdev|fbdev2 files
[17:42] <DarthPidgin> again. Wait up
[17:42] <nsgn> sipior: good news: that loopback tutorial works awesomely
[17:42] <jethro> cellofellow i am pretty new to linux so i am not sure if i will know what to do
[17:42] <michalxo> DarthPidgin, query me?
[17:42] <sipior> nsgn: good, glad it helped.
[17:43] <thehit4hire> DarthPidgin: Sorry, Im confused.
[17:43] <nsgn> sipior: bad news: i cant conceive a way to make a sparse image, meaning i'll have to write 320GB of 0's to the image file on the server to initialize my image :/
[17:43] <jethro> is there a package of codecs?
[17:43] <Quiznos> yes, on the homepage
[17:43] <michalxo> jethro, w32codecs / gstreamer
[17:43] <cellofellow> jethro: try mplayer -vo xv thefile.avi
[17:43] <DarthPidgin> michalxo, nope.
[17:44] <michalxo> I just need a help gosh...
[17:44] <Quiznos> jethro yes, on the homepage
[17:44] <cellofellow> jethro: you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[17:44] <DarthPidgin> thehit4hire, check private msg
[17:44] <mneptok> michalxo: type "killall pulseaudio" (no quotes) in a temrinal and see if the problem persists
[17:44] <jethro> cellofellow i got the same insufficient resources error and yes i installed the extras i think
[17:44] <michalxo> mneptok, rebooted PC and it's still there
[17:45] <jethro> cellofellow how can i check to see if they are installed?
[17:45] <Quiznos> michalxo killall -9 pulseaudio
[17:45] <mneptok> michalxo: yes, because PA restarts when you reboot.
[17:45] <michalxo> no process killed
[17:45] <cellofellow> jethro: aptitude search ~iubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:45] <Quiznos> michalxo pidof puls...
[17:45] <michalxo> pulseaudio: no process killed
[17:45] <Quiznos> michalxo are you in gui or tty?
[17:45] <jipsy> i just used ubuntu...do i nid a java for this?
[17:45] <linh> hey
[17:45] <michalxo> Quiznos, GUI
[17:45] <nsgn> sipior: i think i may just give in and tar my files
[17:46] <Quiznos> michalxo term?
[17:46] <michalxo> 0 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/pulse-session /usr/bin/seahorse-agent --execute x-session-manager
[17:46] <michalxo> gnome-term
[17:46] <michalxo> inal
[17:46] <Quiznos> ok
[17:46] <sipior> nsgn: can you initialise the file in situ, i.e., on the mounted ntfs filesystem itself?
[17:46] <babyshambles> hello, i want enabling surround sounds on jaunty. i followed instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound but it's for ubuntu. can someone write the cmd line for kubuntu please.
[17:46] <Quiznos> michalxo what is pulseaudio
[17:46] <jethro> cellofellow that didnt return anything
[17:46] <Quiznos> michalxo what is pulseaudio  parent process>
[17:46] <cellofellow> jethro: not installed then
[17:46] <michalxo> Quiznos, I am on 8.10? aplay -l aplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found   + http://pastebin.ca/1511175
[17:47] <michalxo> dunno about parent process
[17:47] <fosa> what's the easiest link to download firefox 3.5 ?  modifying the deb repository isn't working because I get key errors
[17:47] <jethro> cellofellwo sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[17:47] <cellofellow> jethro: that'll work
[17:47] <jethro> cellofellow sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[17:47] <lstarnes> fosa: what repository?
[17:47] <Quiznos> michalxo IMO restart DE
[17:48] <michalxo> DE?
[17:48] <Quiznos> desktop environ
[17:48] <michalxo> hm, ok
[17:48] <jethro> cellofellow that is 321 megabytes is that the correct file?
[17:48] <fosa> lstarnes, http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/06/firefox-35-rc-1-ubuntu-repository-deb.html this guide but intrepid instead of jaunty
[17:48] <need_help> hello i did a script of identify, i want to use it when ubuntu boot using CLI require login and password , i want to use the script which use for identify before the login and password or after the login and password! for more Secure ! where i should add this script! which file ! thx
[17:48] <cellofellow> jethro: what is 321 megabytes?
[17:49] <jethro> cellofellow the file i am getting with apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:49] <Onyx> Is there another way to install proprietary drivers besides Jockey?  It never seems to complete installing what it's told to install
[17:49] <michalxo> Quiznos, not worked... my volume-applet is still "muted"
[17:49] <cellofellow> jethro: what else is it installing?
[17:49] <cellofellow> jethro: that's a meta-package that pulls a lot of stuff.
[17:49] <DarthPidgin> Well, dinner time
[17:49] <cellofellow> though 321MB seems high.
[17:49] <DarthPidgin> Bye
[17:50] <Quiznos> michalxo did you re-futz with all the "knobs"?
[17:50] <jethro> cellofellow which one should i install? there are about 100 or so files
[17:50] <babyshambles> fosa : download firefox, extract, open main menu & add it to internet section.
[17:50] <michalxo> Quiznos, HW is fine, everything worked, but after upgrading my soundcard is not listed anymore.. 8.04 -> 8.10
[17:50] <lstarnes> fosa: it looks like the instructions on that page should work
[17:50] <cellofellow> jethro: if you've got mplayer it's probably ok, you don't need it. I'm honestly flumoxed and not sure what's wrong.
[17:50] <jethro> cellofellow it says "Need to get 128MB of archives." s
[17:51] <Quiznos> michalxo ls(pci|usb) as apropriate to see what linux knows
[17:51] <jethro> bummer
[17:51] <lstarnes> fosa: I am also using the ubuntu-mozilla-daily PPA for daily builds of firefox 3.5
[17:51] <fosa> lstarnes, i get this: http://pastebin.com/md99a61
[17:51] <cellofellow> jethro: which includes... oh, yeah, includes nvidia and ati drivers, java vm, codecs, a few other things.
[17:51] <om26er> please help
[17:51] <cellofellow> jethro: if you want all that then install, if not then pick and choose various codec packages.
[17:51] <om26er> failed to initialize HAL
[17:52] <om26er> nothing works
[17:52] <lstarnes> om26er: what gives you that error?
[17:52] <michalxo> Quiznos, http://pastebin.ca/1511219
[17:52] <nsgn> argh. where on the filesystem is my smb share mounted when i mount it via ubuntu's gui?
[17:52] <om26er> lstarnes: when I start
[17:52] <jethro> cellofellow i have an ati x1200 and i cant turn the driver on for it because suspend will freeze. do you think that not having the driver is what is causing my avi problem?
[17:52] <lstarnes> om26er: is that from windows or from ubuntu?
 Using Linux with BootCamp can damage the motherboard of a Mac machine
[17:52] <om26er> lstarnes: no keyboard no mouse
[17:52] <om26er> lstarnes: ubuntu jaunty
[17:52] <cellofellow> jethro: it's giving x11 errors so it's probably the video driver, not the video player.
[17:53] <Quiznos> michalxo review dmesg for similar errors that you pasted
[17:53] <om26er> any safe mode??
[17:53] <om26er> lstarnes: is there any safe mode
[17:53] <lstarnes> om26er: there is a recovery mode option in grub
[17:53] <michalxo> Quiznos, wanna see /var/log messages too? (tail)
[17:53] <jethro> cellofellow is it possible to make it so my system doesnt freeze when i return from suspend mode while i have my video drivers enabled?
[17:53] <Quiznos> michalxo w.e. is relevent only
[17:53] <om26er> lstarnes: anything like a shell
[17:54] <lstarnes> om26er: that does go to a shell
[17:54] <om26er> lstarnes: failed to initialize HAl
[17:54] <Onyx> Is there another way to install proprietary drivers besides Jockey?  It never seems to complete installing what it's told to install
[17:54] <cellofellow> jethro: that's generally a problem with the the proprietary nature of the drivers.
[17:54] <lstarnes> om26er: does that also come from booting into recovery mode?
[17:54] <om26er> lstarnes: no
[17:54] <jethro> cellofellow is there an alternative driver?
[17:54] <fosa> lstarnes, looks like the key failure was due to open office packages
[17:54] <om26er> lstarnes: which menu should I go in recovery mode
[17:54] <michalxo> Quiznos, [ 3374.931169] [fglrx:irqmgr_install_interrupt_handler] *ERROR* unable to install interrupt handler (is it sound or video?)
[17:55] <fosa> now i just get: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tcarrez/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[17:55] <nsgn> what i read about mounting a smb share from the command line seems to actually put it in /mnt. doing so from ubuntu's gui doesnt seem to
[17:55] <cellofellow> jethro: there's two or three drivers for ATI graphics cards. I'm not entirely sure on the details of that cause I don't have an ATI system.
[17:55] <lstarnes> om26er: in ubuntu's recovery mode, not windows's
[17:55] <nsgn> so where the heck does it mount?
[17:55] <om26er> lstarnes: I know
[17:55] <lstarnes> om26er: ubuntu's recovery mode loads to a shell by defaultt
[17:55] <Evet> How can I calculate how many shared hosting accounts my server afford?
[17:55] <Quiznos> michalxo that's fgl tring to do its setup, cant connect irq-manager to something
[17:55] <mbeierl> So, no one where knows where to go for help with gvfs and fuse?
[17:55] <Quiznos> mbeierl ##linux
[17:55] <Quiznos> tell em sammich sent ya
[17:56] <SantaClause> lol
[17:56] <Alaric`> localtime(time()), folks ...   got a fan problem on an Inspiron 4100 running kubuntu 9.04 I hope someone can help with.
[17:56] <Quiznos> this is a EasierRoom
[17:56] <michalxo> Quiznos, no other sign of PA / alsa in dmesg.. only this reapting many times [ 3474.627050] ppdev0: registered pardevice [ 3474.674976] ppdev0: unregistered pardevice [ 3475.804411] ppdev0: registered pardevice
[17:56] <porter1> Anyone know if it's possible to edit grub configs to have an option to boot windows from a hard drive that is newly attached?
[17:56] <squiggie> Hey guys, I'm wondering if someone can help me troubleshoot a Jaunty frreeze problem. I've spent that last 5 days on the forums and internet looking for solutions and I cannot figure out what the issues is. I've upgrade my kernel a few times and now I'm on 2.6.30. The only thing that has been congruent throughout the process is the last log in the message logs are tsc clocksource unstable
[17:57] <Quiznos> michalxo ok;  tell me again the first problem that led to this mess?
[17:57] <fosa> how do i install firefox ffrom tar.bz2?
[17:57] <lstarnes> om26er: there should be an option in the grub menu that looks like "Ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-14-generic (recovery mode)"
[17:57] <Quiznos> porter1 yea, ##Linux
[17:57] <lstarnes> fosa: did you try using the PPA for it first?
[17:57] <porter1> Quiznos, hrm. Tougher crowd there. Oh well :P
[17:57] <AJC_Z0> fosa: Why are you trying to do so?
[17:57] <fosa> lstarnes, yes it's not finding the package
[17:58] <rww> !ff35 | fosa
[17:58] <Quiznos> porter1 more mental energy needed, mmmmm.
[17:58] <Alaric`> capsule summary:  The cooling fans on the notebook never start, so the laptop overheats.  I can solve *this* problem by loading the i8k module, and can then control the fans either manually with i8kctl or automatically with i8kmon.  BUT:  As soon as I load i8k.ko, it disables the keyboard and trackpad.
[17:58] <fosa> AJC_Z0, W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tcarrez/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[17:58] <lstarnes> fosa: it should be firefox-3.5
[17:58] <jipsy> how can i downlaod a background?
[17:58] <mbeierl> Quiznos: sorry... is there some special etiquette to ##linux?  Nothing seems to be happening there...
[17:58] <Quiznos> michalxo dlopen from libc; setrlimit is kernel;
[17:58] <Alaric`> Has anyone else run across this problem and know of a solution?
[17:58] <Quiznos> mbeierl i know some know grub there
[17:58] <michalxo> Quiznos, I was upgrading 8.04 -> 8.10  and always had problem with that soundcard in linux...
[17:58] <Quiznos> mbeierl spread the wealth of questions around
[17:59] <AJC_Z0> I removed all firefox packages and installed firefox-3.5 and all dependencies, which installed firefox-3.0 and firefox which linked to firefox-3.0. This was esily fixed be symlinking to 3.5, but did I miss something?
[17:59] <mbeierl> Quiznos: I am really sorry, but I am not following what you are trying to say at all :(
[17:59] <Quiznos> michalxo ok; peek at proc/interrupts for strangeness
[17:59] <Quiznos> mbeierl that's ok
[17:59] <AJC_Z0> fosa: What did you do to get that error?
[17:59] <ctmjr> jipsy: find the background you like then right click it save image as
[17:59] <fosa> how do you build from tarball?  isn't it just like make and make configure?
[18:00] <lstarnes> fosa: no
[18:00] <fosa> AJC_Z0, sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[18:00] <cellofellow> fosa: ./configure; make; make install
[18:00] <lstarnes> fosa: there's usually an INSTALL or README file in there with instructions
[18:00] <Quiznos> michalxo ok nuttin speeshul there
[18:00] <squiggie> Hey guys, I'm wondering if someone can help me troubleshoot a Jaunty frreeze problem. I've spent that last 5 days on the forums and internet looking for solutions and I cannot figure out what the issues is. I've upgrade my kernel a few times and now I'm on 2.6.30. The only thing that has been congruent throughout the process is the last log in the message logs are tsc clocksource unstable
[18:00] <jipsy> yeah but still my desktop background is dark!!!i can only see the screws inside my cube
[18:00] <fosa> lstarnes, the readme file was empty, thanks for the tip about install file
[18:00] <mbeierl> Quiznos: well, either way, I'm having no luck on getting info on gvfs-mount and fuse there either, so it's back to the drawing board.  Thanks anyway.
[18:00] <fosa> cellofellow, thanks
[18:00] <AJC_Z0> fosa: Maybe your chosen software repo had a problem. Try another
[18:00] <michalxo> Quiznos, are they my guys?
[18:01] <Quiznos> mbeierl k;yw
[18:01] <lstarnes> fosa: for the pre-built tarball of firefox, it's already compiled and can be run from its own directory
[18:01] <fosa> AJC_Z0, i'm following this guide: http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/06/firefox-35-rc-1-ubuntu-repository-deb.html
[18:01] <Quiznos> michalxo huh?
[18:01] <AJC_Z0> fosa: What are you following a guide? see the ubottu advice
[18:01] <michalxo> Quiznos,  ahaa nothing special :D proceed pls :)
[18:01] <Quiznos> heh ok
[18:01] <AJC_Z0> I just installed 3.5 a few minutes ago
[18:02] <Quiznos> michalxo what happened before the dlopen msg was posted? you doing (dist-activty | kernel stuff |anything)?
[18:03] <AJC_Z0> http://www.bash.org/?895141
[18:03] <Quiznos> michalxo lib-stuff?
[18:03] <need_help> hey need help by mistake i did chmod 644 -R / (using root), is there anything i can do because trying to re-do chmod give me permission denied!
[18:03] <Pici> need_help: No. Reinstall.
[18:03] <Quiznos> need_help wait
[18:04] <michalxo> Quiznos, I have followed one tutorial on ubuforums how to resolve PA problems... but only added PA PPA repos for intrepid and upgraded .. I think.. I'll try to find it again
[18:04] <Quiznos> need_help chmod 755 bin lib boot sbin tmp opt
[18:04] <need_help> Quiznos -bash: /bin/chmod: Permission denied
[18:04] <Quiznos> need_help then continue into var, usr, opt until you're done; then do the executuables files with 755
[18:04] <Quiznos> chmod +x /bin /bin/chmod
[18:05] <Quiznos> michalxo sorry; expand "PA"
[18:05] <sMouK> hi
[18:05] <sMouK> help please
[18:05] <michalxo> Quiznos, pulseaudio
[18:05] <Quiznos> ok
[18:05] <Quiznos> michalxo i suspect lib problem
[18:05] <sMouK> how to install MO2007 in ubuntu ?
[18:05] <Quiznos> michalxo libc prob
[18:05] <need_help> Quiznos still bash: /bin/chmod: Permission denied
[18:05] <Quiznos> need_help boot a live-cd/dvd, fix.
[18:05] <lstarnes> sMouK: microsoft office?
[18:06] <sMouK> yeah
[18:06] <need_help> Quiznos ya right thx
[18:06] <michalxo> Quiznos, well... I have here some "workarounds" for alsa, when PA wasn't in ubuntu...
[18:06] <Quiznos> yw
[18:06] <Quiznos> ok
[18:06] <Darken87> It worked, but I think my hard drive is bad in spots
[18:07] <michalxo> Quiznos, but any additional help how to resolve this problem will be REALLY appreciated
[18:07] <Darken87> :-D
[18:07] <Quiznos> michalxo tryin bro
[18:07] <michalxo> Quiznos, thank you
[18:07] <Quiznos> michalxo grep dlopen /var/log/* | sort| uniq |less
[18:07] <sMouK> what lib I need for install this app
[18:07] <sMouK> ?
[18:07] <lstarnes> sMouK: wine
[18:07] <sMouK> it's all ?
[18:07] <Quiznos> michalxo look for strangeness WRT libc
[18:08] <foundry87> How can I stop the notifications for new songs in Rhythmbox at the top right of my screen?
[18:08] <lstarnes> sMouK: you can't install microsoft office directly in ubuntu
[18:08] <abra> sMouK, Use OpenOffice ^)
[18:08] <lstarnes> sMouK: but you can install it in wine, which runs in ubuntu
[18:08] <sMouK> y I know
[18:08] <sMouK> need emulated
[18:08] <sMouK> but
[18:08] <Quiznos> michalxo same app?
[18:08] <sMouK> I can run the install
[18:09] <michalxo> Quiznos, I haven't tried any app so far, cause no sound there.. :-/  what is WRT libc (library?)
[18:09] <sMouK> but not finish
[18:09] <AJC_Z0> sMouK: please do not use the the return key for punctuation
[18:09] <thehit4hire> Ok I have absolutley no sound with ubuntu. I have searched online but I still cant figure it out?
[18:09] <Quiznos> michalxo wrt=with regard to; libc, gnulibc, libc.so
[18:09] <michalxo> aha
[18:09] <sMouK> ok thx AJC_Z0 sorry
[18:09] <Quiznos> michalxo dlopen is part of libc
[18:10] <thehit4hire> Ok I have absolutley no sound with ubuntu and Realtek ACL250. I have searched online but I still cant figure it out?
[18:10] <michalxo> Quiznos, where should I look for it? (that messages/conflicts)
[18:10] <Quiznos> michalxo var/log
[18:10] <Quiznos> michalxo dlopen
[18:11] <tehdave> I'm using 8.04 and I need to connect to a VPN at my workplace. Is there any way to do it without going back to the regular Network Manager applet? (I use WICD right now, since the last time I used the network applet it wasn't working properly for me)
[18:11] <sMouK> somebody speak spanish ?
[18:11] <Pr0Br0> hmmm i really don't want to reinstall windows :/ i'm sitting here looking at a partition that is 90gb with all my files on it, is there any way to just boot it?
[18:11] <Pr0Br0> y yo hablo un poco espanol
[18:12] <lstarnes> !es | sMouK
[18:12] <sMouK> gracias =)
[18:12] <sMouK> thanks
[18:12] <jet_> can you copy music files from a virtual machine harddisk to a file for use in ubuntu
[18:12] <Quiznos> Pr0Br0 are there boot files on it?
[18:12] <Pr0Br0> i'm pretty sure, all i did was delete a blank partition and resize the c drive to fill that blank space
[18:12] <Pr0Br0> all the files should be on there
[18:12] <Quiznos> michalxo hmm, i think you munged the lib somehow
[18:13] <Quiznos> michalxo any other libc probs you've notices?
[18:13] <michalxo> not yet... freshly upgraded from 8.04 few minutes ago
[18:13] <Quiznos> michalxo and PA wont start?
[18:13] <michalxo> nope
[18:13] <Quiznos> michalxo did you restart X?
[18:13] <michalxo> yes
[18:13] <Quiznos> wow
[18:13] <danny> hi togheter
[18:13] <michalxo> rebooted too.. :-/
[18:14] <michalxo> I always had problem with this card
[18:14] <danny> is someone from germany?
[18:14] <Quiznos> michalxo did you google the forums?
[18:14] <michalxo> yeah.. nothing extra :(
[18:14] <Quiznos> k
[18:14] <michalxo> Quiznos, I was on #PA and they sent me here :)
[18:14] <jet_> i need some help with virtual box
[18:15] <Quiznos> ok
[18:15] <ProfOak> jet_: Just ask your question
[18:15] <Pr0Br0> god this is so dumb computers are so dumb
[18:15] <danny> is someone from germany who can answer some quetions
[18:15] <ikonia> danny: try #ubuntu-de
[18:15] <ohir> !de | danny
[18:15] <michalxo> Quiznos, my previous problem before "upgrading" PAudio was this http://pastebin.ca/1511162
[18:15] <tehdave> alright...better question: does the current version of the builtin Network Manager (for 8.04) properly support WPA2?
[18:15] <jueves> how do I change the server, need to get to euIRC
[18:16] <jueves> pls
[18:16] <lstarnes> jueves: /server
[18:16] <jueves> where do I type it...in here?
[18:16] <Quiznos> michalxo did you do as he sugged?
[18:16] <jueves> excuse my ignorance :#(
[18:16] <lstarnes> jueves: the full syntax is /server insert.server.name.here
[18:16] <michalxo> I don't have any .default.pa file
[18:16] <lstarnes> jueves: type it anywhere in your client
[18:16] <jet_> i am trying to get all my music off my zune and have it copyed into the ubuntu music folder, but my mp3 player and jumpdriver are both greyed out under usb devices and wont come up on the vm
[18:17] <Quiznos> michalxo make one
[18:17] <lstarnes> jueves: although you might want to make a new tab first using ctrl+t then type in there
[18:17] <scunizi> Networking noob here.. will <IP_ADDRESS> on a subnet of <IP_ADDRESS> interfear with <IP_ADDRESS> on a different subnet?
[18:17] <michalxo> Quiznos, what fill into file? :-/
[18:18] <Quiznos> nothing at first
[18:18] <lstarnes> scunizi: if they're on the same LAN, yes
[18:18] <michalxo> Quiznos, restart X?
[18:18] <Quiznos> yes
[18:18] <michalxo> ok
[18:18] <Ardin> ok, i'm googling it now, but anyone know of a way to rename files, using the lines from a text file as the filename additions? like turning Dilbert.1x01.avi into Dilbert.1x01.The Name.avi
[18:18] <scunizi> lstarnes: thanks.. can you tell me basically why you'd want a different subnet within a lan?
[18:18] <jet_> so, im wondering if there is a way to find the windows xp misuc folder in ubuntu to copy or is that not really possible
[18:18] <ohir> scunizi: 192.168.0.x is the subnet
[18:19] <ohir> scunizi: you can NOT have two machines on same LAN with identical adresses.
[18:19] <scunizi> ohir: I should say subnet mask
[18:19] <ProfOak> jet_: Did you install ubuntu inside of windows, or did you restart with a CD in your drive?
[18:19] <michalxo> Quiznos, back
[18:19] <Quiznos> .
[18:19] <jet_> ubuntu was installed first
[18:19] <michalxo> :(
[18:20] <ohir> scunizi: though its ok when person A has it in his home and person B has same in her home
[18:20] <lstarnes> scunizi: a subnet mask of <IP_ADDRESS> with a network of <IP_ADDRESS> covers <IP_ADDRESS> through <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:20] <ProfOak> jet_:Then you should be able to open your windows partition from the "Places" menu
[18:20] <jet_> xp is on a virtual machine im using PUEL virtual box
[18:20] <ProfOak> Oh, virtual box
[18:20] <jet_> hah
[18:20] <jet_> any idea why a usb drive would be greyed out in virtual box>
[18:20] <scunizi> ohir: lstarnes I guess I'm asking why you'd want some machines on a subnet mask of <IP_ADDRESS> and others on <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:21] <ohir> scunizi: <IP_ADDRESS> is _within_ <IP_ADDRESS> scope
[18:21] <squiggie> I'm wondering if someone can help me troubleshoot a Jaunty frreeze problem. I've spent that last 5 days on the forums and internet looking for solutions and I cannot figure out what the issues is. I've upgrade my kernel a few times and now I'm on 2.6.30. The only thing that has been congruent throughout the process is the last log in the message logs are tsc clocksource unstable
[18:21] <lstarnes> scunizi: a subnet mask of <IP_ADDRESS> is equivalent to 192.168.0.* while <IP_ADDRESS> is 192.168.*.*
[18:21] <Pici> jet_: USB is not supported in the open source edition of vbox that is in the Ubuntu repositories.
[18:22] <jet_> Pici: im using PUEL vbox
[18:22] <Ahadiel> jet_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/USB
[18:22] <ohir> scunizi: so no, you cannot have two machines adressed <IP_ADDRESS> on same LAN
[18:22] <Pici> jet_: Then ask in #vbox
[18:22] <michalxo> Quiznos, ask on #pulseaudio for help?
[18:22] <lstarnes> scunizi: another way to notate it is using CIDR
[18:22] <jet_> Pici: thanks
[18:22] <scunizi> lstarnes: so with the second subnet mask I could effectively do an address range of <IP_ADDRESS>-255 ?
[18:23] <Quiznos> michalxo yea. i dont know what the fix is for this.
[18:23] <lstarnes> scunizi: <IP_ADDRESS>?
[18:23] <Quiznos> i'm stumpted
[18:23] <michalxo> ok Quiznos thank you for your time anyway ;) enjoy rest of day ;)
[18:23] <Quiznos> michalxo ##Linux ##Linux-coders (if awake)
[18:23] <Quiznos> michalxo you too ty
[18:24] <wrektjet> hey. im running update manager and i got, for menu.lst, that the locally modified version can be updated. but i made changes regarding my hardware in the file, so what option is best to select?
[18:24] <nicklas_> yo
[18:24] <wildc4rd> evening all
[18:24] <wrektjet> should i merge/keep local/switch etc
[18:24] <ohir> scunizi: yes. But you should better stay with <IP_ADDRESS> as most examples of networking setup uses network C (/24 in CDIR notation)
[18:24] <Quiznos> well this was exciting; i'll be bok
[18:24] <scunizi> lstarnes: yes.. I have a voip server and phone system with a subnet mask of <IP_ADDRESS> and was trying to figure out if I can change it to <IP_ADDRESS> to make it easier to access the backend admin functions via browser thereby eliminating the need to change the subnet mask in the networking to access it.
[18:25] <ohir> scunizi: if you want to "separate" networks on same LAN you use 192.168.0/24 192.168.1/24
[18:25] <scunizi> networking of the pc that is.
[18:25] <lstarnes> scunizi: can you access it without changing the subnet mask?
[18:25] <scunizi> lstarnes: no
[18:27] <ohir> scunizi: you also need to set up broadcast address if you change the mask. If you can not figure voip appliance setup, you may resort to change mask within your home network accordingly.
[18:27] <lstarnes> scunizi: is the voip server on the same LAN as your current system?
[18:27] <scunizi> lstarnes: yes
[18:27] <sammy> hello
[18:29] <Pr0Br0> hey does gparted work on a live cd?
[18:29] <Pr0Br0> like on the ubuntu live cd?
[18:30] <Pr0Br0> cause don't you have to reboot to do all the partitioning and stuff?
[18:30] <scunizi> ohir: the device has it's own gateway address that defaults at 192.168.1.*
[18:30] <Pici> Pr0Br0: You can onyl partition the drives while they are not mounted, so no, you don't need to reboot to finish the paritioning.
[18:30] <ProfOak> Pr0Br0: Yes
[18:30] <AaronT1251> Pr0Br0: I think gparted has its own live cd
[18:31] <jmoran> join #sf-eng
[18:31] <Pr0Br0> hmm yeah i might have to download that
[18:31] <b0b> irc.onlinegamesnet.net
[18:31] <tehdave> does the current version of Network Manager work with WPA2 wireless?
[18:31] <Pici> Pr0Br0: Its also on the Ubuntu LiveCD, so you don't need to download the gparted livecd.
[18:31] <Pr0Br0> yeah i'm using the ubuntu live cd
[18:32] <tvuser> hi, I broke my sound, can someone help me fix it?
[18:32] <leandro> br?
[18:32] <leandro> #ubuntu-br
[18:33] <Pr0Br0> okay, i am backing up a 90gb partition on a 500gb external drive....if i resize the external harddrive partition with all of my very important files on it to 350 gb, then copy paste the 90 gb partition to fill the space will it fuck up my files on the external drive?
[18:34] <fosa> what is "main menu" ?
[18:34] <marvinp> 3~
[18:34] <emre_> Hi folks, I want to learn about being an ubuntu package maintainer for a specific package. Can someone point me a document on where to start?
[18:34] <Pici> Pr0Br0: Please mind your language.
[18:34] <Pr0Br0> oh sorry
[18:34] <Pici> emre_: The packaging guide is located here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
[18:35] <emre_> Pici: thanks.
[18:35] <russell__> is it possible to install ubuntu on xp ntft partition?
[18:35] <Pici> emre_: Also #ubuntu-motu
[18:35] <emre_> Pici: tnx for that too :)
[18:36] <russell__> does anyone know if I can intall ubuntu on windows ntfs?
[18:36] <AaronT1251> russel_: I think there is a program called wubi that can do that, google it
[18:36] <russell__> I ask this because my laptop does not have cdrom drive
[18:36] <Pr0Br0> will i even be able to browse a ntfs formatted partition through a usb connection?
[18:36] <russell__> is that wubi some kind of emulation?
[18:37] <AaronT1251> it runs the ubuntu system through a windows filesystem
[18:37] <ProfOak> Pr0Br0: You can use the wubi installer or, you can use unetbootin to make a bootable USB drive
[18:37] <russell__> thanks I'll look into that
[18:37] <AaronT1251> kk
[18:37] <ProfOak> russell__: You can use the wubi installer or, you can use unetbootin to make a bootable USB drive *
[18:38] <Pr0Br0> i don't need to boot i only need to browse for files
[18:38] <michalxo> guys, is there a way to put newer kernel into 8.10 than 2.6.27-14 via repos?
[18:38] <Preplexed> on my passwords that i have to put in to log on master password?  how do i change that?
[18:39] <mechtech> well...moment of truth...getting updates right now
[18:39] <AaronT1251> michalxo: i don't think you can
[18:40] <amon75> salve atutti
[18:40] <Pici> Pr0Br0: Yes, you can view ntfs drives from Ubuntu.
[18:40] <Hatsjoe> Does anyone know some good compiler/editor for VB projects?
[18:40] <Pici> !it | amon75
[18:40] <Pr0Br0> hmmm what about macos?
[18:43] <Pici> Pr0Br0: You *should* be okay.
[18:43] <YiamiYo> hi...can i have an old macintosh 8.6...can i install ubuntu on it??
[18:43] <YiamiYo> oops
[18:43] <YiamiYo> i have
[18:43] <YiamiYo> *
[18:43] <mechtech> ok...rebooting
[18:43] <Pici> !ppc | YiamiYo possibly
[18:43] <Jeruvy> !ppc | YiamiYo
[18:44] <mechtech> see you in a minute...I hope
[18:44] <patricius_> How can I make Ubuntu automatically detect a new monitor being connected?
[18:44] <Jeruvy> patricius_: it should auto detect it
[18:44] <BlueEagle> patricius_: Is it not detected?
[18:44] <encino> hi
[18:44] <encino> anyone here free to help me
[18:45] <Spreadsheet> Hi
[18:45] <patricius_> Jeruvy: I may have phrased my question wrongly. Let me give an example.
[18:45] <encino> i wan ask about this ubuntu
[18:45] <Spreadsheet> I'm missing Python.h
[18:45] <lstarnes> encino: just ask your question
[18:45] <BlueEagle> patricius_: ...or do you want it automatically enabled?
[18:45] <encino> is it able to link
[18:45] <Spreadsheet> How do I get that?
[18:45] <lstarnes> Spreadsheet: install python-dev
[18:45] <Spreadsheet> lstarnes: Thanks
[18:45] <encino> some of my lan network
[18:45] <patricius_> BlueEagle: Yeah. But also to switch automatically switch to my laptop's display when I disconnect my monitor.
[18:45] <BlueEagle> encino: If you install tools to compile source code you also install a linker in most cases, yes.
[18:46] <b0b> spricht wer deutsch -.-
[18:46] <BlueEagle> !de | b0b
[18:46] <encino> blueeagle : which way is the best way to do it
[18:46] <majnoon> wow got my laptop to do xdmcp connect to my desktop and can run my tvcard and DISPLAY it on laptop :)
[18:46] <b0b> ah ok
[18:47] <spO> hwo do you convert ext3 fs files to ntfs?
[18:47] <BlueEagle> encino: I'm sorry. I thought you were done asking the question after you asked if it could link. Apperantly it was a completely different kind of linking you were talking about. If you had not done !enter I wouldn't have to have made such a mistake. As for linking a network I am assuming that you want to share an internet connection, is that correct?
[18:47] <spO> and can you put ntfs files on ext3 fs?
[18:47] <patricius_> Jeruvy: Can I make such that the display automatically switches to my laptop, when i disconnect my external monitor?
[18:48] <ProfOak> spO: ext is not a file, it's a file system. There are a few programs you can use that will let you view linux files on your windows partition.
[18:48] <encino> no
[18:48] <patricius_> Jeruvy: And to the monitor's native resolution
[18:48] <lstarnes> spO: you don't need to do any special conversion for files originally made on one filesystem to be moved to another
[18:48] <BlueEagle> encino: Then what are you attempting to do? Set up a VPN tunnel between two networks?
[18:48] <encino> ya this is the one
[18:49] <encino> but not two networks
[18:49] <BlueEagle> !enter
[18:49] <encino> i got 4 place
[18:49] <mechtech> ok...updated and rebooted...everything seems fine
[18:49] <owen1_> how to sync the clock from a terminal based ubuntu?
[18:49] <YiamiYo> can anyone plz tell me a linux version good for my 8.6 macintosh?
[18:50] <spO> how do you convert or move ext3 fs files to a ntfs fs?
[18:50] <encino> i got 4 network need to be linkup on lan network
[18:50] <encino> which is the best way
[18:50] <encino> if i use ubuntu will it work
[18:51] <Jeruvy> patricius_: I'm not that familiar with using secondary displays on a lappy, but my thinking is that it should be using both displays if they are detected and configured.  Depending if your doing twinview or separate X sessions would control that..but I may not be the best to answer that question :)
[18:51] <BlueEagle> yiamiyo: 2.6.27
[18:51] <balaji> Hi
[18:51] <AaronT1251> hi
[18:51] <YiamiYo> BlueEagle, ty
[18:51] <encino> blueeagle : can help me out ?
[18:51] <AaronT1251> sp0: you don't need to convert files, you can just move them normally
[18:52] <urthmover> How do I connect a USB drive with an HFS filesystem to jaunty64?
[18:52] <SVisor> encino: Im not sure what you attempt to do.. Bu if you just want to crate an LAN with 4 computer. Get a  cheap switch and connect your computers to it.
[18:52] <Dimitree> Can i install Ubuntu Studio on top of my 9.04 ubuntu ? Will that change my programs and customd rivers for DVB card i have installed ? Is it easy to do ?
[18:52] <sajro> Hey, does anyone know how to fix the problem where Facebook tells you to upgrade your Flash version to watch videos? Do you have to manually install the .deb and will that conflict or dupe when the update comes around?
[18:52] <encino> SVisor: of i think you get wrong
[18:53] <encino> i wan to link 4 places network
[18:53] <encino> including me if i fly around
[18:53] <balaji> #rails
[18:53] <BlueEagle> encino: Do you intend to have servers running permanently at the four locations?
[18:53] <encino> still can link up to home and office
[18:53] <encino> ya
[18:53] <YiamiYo> will be able to resize it's current partition so i don't lose my old os?
[18:53] <patricius_> Jeruvy: I just tried out my laptops Fn-F7 sequence.... it seems to do what I want :) Thanks for your help though.
[18:53] <encino> my friend tell me i need 5 servers or more
[18:54] <encino> each place need to hookup with one server and modem
[18:54] <encino> then can start up my virtual lan
[18:55] <ctmjr> owen1_: you trying to set the clock from command line?
[18:55] <encino> my friend say can try using openvpn
[18:55] <BlueEagle> encino: Then linux does have the tools you need. However you would most probably want to choose a primary site and set up a VPN connection to each of the three other sites from there and have that location route the packets. Alternately you could set up VPN-tunnels between all sites (every site has three tunnels). It depends on how much bandwidth is availible at each site and how your
[18:55] <urthmover> How do I identify which /dev/?  my newly connected USB external hard drive is connected to?
[18:55] <encino> but he say need to have fix ip
[18:55] <BlueEagle> ping-requirements are.
[18:56] <BlueEagle> !enter | encino
[18:56] <pepperjack> urthmover: dmesg| tail
[18:56] <urthmover> pepperjack: thanks trying that now
[18:56] <mechtech> can you guys see my posts?
[18:57] <planetary> can anyone help me with electric sheep? is the one from the repos good?
[18:57] <pepperjack> mechtech: yes :)
[18:57] <mechtech> thanks pepperjack =)
[18:57] <Goldiadkin> Hi! I'm having some trouble with jdownloader. I can't open it from the console, it only opens from desktop rightclicking and selecting "open with java"
[18:57] <dreamborn> what is the difference between the different kernels that i'm presented with at my boot manager?
[18:57] <encino> ubottu sorry i dont know
[18:58] <qs> Hello, I'm trying to set up a GRE tunnel to get through a restrictive firewall; do I need to create a tunnel at both endpoints to get traffic through?
[18:58] <AaronT1251> dreamborn: they are just older kernels than the one you are using now
[18:58] <pepperjack> dreamborn: usually top to bottom most recent. any time there is an update the new kernel should be top one
[18:58] <encino> blueeagle : do you know how i can get it done
[18:58] <spO> why is the iso for ubuntu , the computer platform is labeled amd64  ..... as in AMD the company?
[18:58] <dreamborn> ok so i should always use the most recent?
[18:58] <Caue> dreamborn: i believe they're left there in case you have troubles with new updates.
[18:58] <AaronT1251> dreamborn: yes
[18:58] <pepperjack> spO: no its 32 bit (386) and 64 bit (amd64)
[18:58] <dreamborn> ok thanks all
[18:58] <BlueEagle> encino: It depends. Do you want a tunnel between all sites or do you want one site to act as a central hub?
[18:59] <mechtech> qs: do you have access to the firewall?  And is it a hardware or software firewall?
[18:59] <lstarnes> spO: many people still use amd64 to refer to all 64-bit x86 processors, not just amd's
[18:59] <spO> where did the amd in amd64 come from?
[18:59] <BlueEagle> encino: Also, how familiar are you with subnets and routing?
[18:59] <spO> cause amd is the first one to majoritly commercialize 64 bit processors?
[18:59] <YiamiYo> BlueEagle, confused...can you plz give me a link to download a lightweight server version for my macintosh?
[18:59] <qs> mechtech: I don't have access to the firewall, and I don't have access to it. But I believe I can pass GRE traffic across it (someone I know has done it before)
[19:00] <ctmjr> spO: yes in a nutshell
[19:00] <encino> blueeagle i think between tunnel will be good
[19:00] <lstarnes> spO: essentially, yes
[19:00] <qs> mechtech: I do have access to a machine on either side however, and I want to pass traffic from one to the other.
[19:00] <LexLuth0r> Any good XDCCBrowser software for Xchat or another client
[19:00] <mechtech> qs: ok...lemme research...brb
[19:01] <qs> mechtech: thanks
[19:01] <lstarnes> spO: x86-64 and x86-64 are often used instead to refer to 64-bit x86 processors
[19:01] <spO> what  is the program called XM free or something that is supposed to be like remote desktop manager intead of an vnc?
[19:01] <encino> if using one central hub better or all running tunnel better ?
[19:02] <mechtech> qs: can you ping the second machine?
[19:02] <dewdude> lstarnes, don't you mean x86-64, amd64 and intel 64 are used to refer to 64-bit x86?
[19:02] <ExAstris> Hi all. How can I upgrade Firefox to version 3.5.1 with the correct branding, as it is released now? Additionally, can anyone give me the name of a good GUI download manager, instead of the omnipotent WGET
[19:02] <qs> mechtech: no, the firewall drops ping packets (but I can ssh, etc)
[19:02] <mechtech> qs: ok
[19:02] <lstarnes> dewdude: I already covered amd64,  intel 64 is used more often to refer to intel's 64 bit processors specifically
[19:02] <pepperjack> ExAstris: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[19:03] <AaronT1251> ExAstris: Try ubuntuzilla
[19:03] <mechtech> qs: see here: http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/29959
[19:03] <ExAstris> thank you, pepperjack.
[19:03] <ExAstris> and aaron
[19:03] <mechtech> qs: that should do it
[19:03] <pepperjack> ExAstris: np. honestly though i normally just download firefox from the mozilla website to my home directory and leave the system version at whatever
[19:03] <Goldiadkin> Hi! I'm having some trouble with jdownloader. I can't open it from the console, it only opens from desktop rightclicking and selecting "open with java", any ideas?
[19:03] <BlueEagle> encino: What you need to do is to define a subnet for each site. Connect a VPN tunnel between each of the sites. Set up routing so that your server knows which site you are attempting to access. Set up measures to prevent packets from routing in circles (routing cost tables for instance). That should just about cover it. Well unless you need security that is. In such case you'll need to set up
[19:04] <BlueEagle> some form of encryption on the tunnels. That about covers it I guess.
[19:04] <archman> hello again
[19:04] <archman> :)
[19:04] <Caue> i wonder... and please, no relative answers here... if i want a simple gui *nix file server to a network filled with windows, mac and eventually ubuntu, what would be my best bet? i was thinking on getting an old mac machine and just tweak it up. i'm now trying super os (ubuntu) and tweaking it up just a little bit and using reconstructor... but what about other nix flavors? or maybe a box that's ready for this? i feel often almost as frustrate
[19:04] <qs> mechtech: wouldn't i need a cisco router for that...?
[19:04] <dewdude> lstarnes, i'm going by industry terms... Intel 64 is what they're calling their implementation of amd64, perhaps you're thinking of IA-64 that they used for Itanium?
[19:05] <pepperjack> Caue: personally i like a linux box with just X or maybe fluxbox running that i can vnc to
[19:05] <lstarnes> dewdude: I thought it was EM64T
[19:05] <mechtech> qs: seems that GRE is a cisco technology...assumed you were using their equipment...still, creating the interface at both ends would be essential
[19:05] <archman> my friend has ubuntu+vista dual boot, he wants to remove ubuntu, so it means he needs to restore his mbr first. is there a way to do it from linux? (cause he doesn't have vista setup cd)
[19:05] <Besogon> I must say, that GUI samba tool is th best tool for user. I've spent so much time to learn Samba but in vain... NFS is easer than Samba, but that require strongly the server
[19:05] <dewdude> maybe...but Intel's name for x68-64 is "Intel 64", leading to additional confusion
[19:05] <danirie> hi how can i use my ipod with ubutntu?
[19:05] <pepperjack> Caue: no monitor just ssh into it and run vncserver then use some vnc client to connect to it
[19:05] <Caue> pepperjack: yeah, vnc would be nice. but i still couldnt setup one except using a logged user.
[19:06] <dewdude> archman, he needs to use bcdedit from Vista to restore the MBR
[19:06] <encino> blueeagle thanx man
[19:06] <qs> mechtech: it's cisco originally, but the same thing can be done with the linux kernel rather than with their routers
[19:06] <planetary> electricsheep anyone??
[19:06] <Caue> although i'm ok on using ssh, it's not what i'd consider best.
[19:06] <BlueEagle> encino: What you may want to think about is to have one site just connect to two others and have any site act as a relay if neccessary. That would remove four links from the equation. However it all depends on the geographical location of the sites.
[19:07] <archman> dewdude, is it an app that is in vista by default? (he doesn't want to install any app)
[19:07] <encino> if i need in secure form need to setup a server that link to 3 other servers ? is there a website that teach all about this linking network
[19:07] <thiebaude> anyone have a link to where i can get the latest kernel?
[19:07] <dewdude> there's an app in Vista to do it, but it's confusing to use.
[19:07] <Caue> Besogon: what you mean? strongly the server?
[19:07] <Caue> lol, nvm
[19:07] <dewdude> he can also stick the vista CD in and hit "repair my computer"
[19:08] <th0r> thiebaude: synaptic?
[19:08] <qs> mechtech: thanks anyway :)
[19:08] <archman> dewdude, he has no cd
[19:08] <jimmy51_> i've got an integrated Intel GMA 950 graphics adapter.  i've read that ut2004 is supposed to play fine on lower settings, but it dogs along so bad it's unplayable.  are there any general ubuntu gaming performance tips out there anyone can point me at?
[19:08] <encino> blueeagle : at the moment im a bit blurr dont know how or which is good my friend say this is good http://nielsvz.com/2009/02/running-openvpn-on-ubuntu-810-server/
[19:08] <thiebaude> th0r, ok, thanks
[19:09] <KoolD> how do i know which application is associated to a port???
[19:09] <dewdude> hold on, let me look up how to do it from command lie
[19:09] <dewdude> line
[19:09] <mechtech> qs: ok...I think the usage would still remain the same though
[19:09] <pepperjack> jimmy51_: intel 3d atm in latest ubuntu can be problematic i have heard
[19:09] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:09] <mechtech> qs: lemme research some more
[19:09] <SuspectZero> hey guys. if i want the output of just wlan0 to show. how would i grep what iwconfig spits out?
[19:09] <mechtech> qs: brb
[19:09] <th0r> KoolD: it depends on how you configure the apps. The standard app/port relationships are online....google should return a ton of lists
[19:10] <qs> mechtech: ok, i seem to have now created a tunnel which loops back to myself...
[19:10] <jimmy51_> doh
[19:10] <AaronT1251> SuspectZero: iwconfig wlan0
[19:10] <encino> blueeagle : do you think openvpn is good to link up all my network
[19:10] <qs> mechtech: so when i connect to the tunnel ip, it's as if i'd typed <IP_ADDRESS>...
[19:10] <AaronT1251> SuspectZero: no need to use grep
[19:10] <petllama> pptp
[19:10] <SuspectZero> AaronMT, right but lets say i dont know that the user has wlan0
[19:11] <dewdude> archman, apparently the bcdedit app in vista doesn't restore an MBR, you either need the Vista CD to fix it or download and install EasyBCD
[19:11] <archman> thanks, dewdude :)
[19:11] <BlueEagle> encino: Keep in mind that the setup there only sets up a tunnel between two points. You will need three tunnels at each site to interlink all four sites if you want optimal performance. That translates to a lot of pitfalls both with subnetting and routing.
[19:11] <SuspectZero> anyway to figure out wht extensions they use for their wireless?
[19:11] <Caue> pepperjack: but have you tried macos?
[19:11] <casey> i'm changing primssion of a folder and whats the comand for change it for all folders annd files in tha folder?
[19:11] <AaronMT> SuspectZero: Other Aaron
[19:11] <archman> dewdude, aah, he doesn't want to install anything. any other ideas?
[19:11] <SuspectZero> oops
[19:11] <AaronT1251> SuspectZero: you do an iwconfig first, to check what interfaces the user has got
[19:11] <SuspectZero> sorry
[19:11] <th0r> casey: chmod -R
[19:11] <petllama> casey: chmod -R
[19:11] <dewdude> archman, no. those are the only ways to do it.
[19:11] <casey> ok
[19:11] <Keiffer> I'll marry the first woman that uses Linux.
[19:11] <pepperjack> Caue: sorry i no nothing about Macs
[19:12] <pepperjack> no/know
[19:12] <dewdude> if he has a problem...he can get rid of ubuntu, but he'll have to go through grub to boot vista every time
[19:12] <Caue> pepperjack: you should, it's the best gui oriented *nix flavor, as expected
[19:12] <johnny5_> Keiffer She's mine no share
[19:12] <SuspectZero> AaronT1251, thanks for the help .i got it
[19:12] <AaronT1251> SuspectZero: np
[19:12] <jimmy51_> Keiffer: my wife uses linux
[19:12] <mechtech> qs: this looks good too: http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.tunnel.gre.html
[19:12] <archman> dewdude, he also wants to get rid of GRUB, unfortunately
[19:12] <Caue> pepperjack:  but it ain't opensource and therefore it gets very limited
[19:12] <Keiffer> johnny5_, who?
[19:12] <archman> tnx for the help
[19:12] <archman> :)
[19:12] <jimmy51_> Ubuntu NBR on her eeePC, and Kubuntu on her Atom 330 desktop
[19:13] <Caue> i mean...
[19:13] <BlueEagle> encino: Is this for a corporate network or is it to play games on lan?
[19:13] <mechtech> Keiffer: she's prolly pretty old by now :)
[19:13] <johnny5_> jimmy51_: My fiance :P and apparently his wife
[19:13] <Caue> it is kinda open
[19:13] <Rassa> Hello everyone!
[19:13] <dewdude> well, he needs to get a vista dvd or install easybcd. outside of that, i got nothing and i doubt anyone else here knows either. it's not like the old days of going fdisk /mbr, vista changed everything.
[19:13] <rumy> hi guys im very new to ubuntu nd im havn a prob
[19:13] <qs> mechtech: yeah, tried that as well but again no luck
[19:13] <Caue> anyway, gota go, thanks for answering pepperjack
[19:13] <Caue> cyaround
[19:13] <mechtech> qs: could be the firewall is the problem
[19:14] <archman> dewdude: thanks, man :)
[19:14] <AaronT1251> rumy: whats up?
[19:14] <dewdude> unless he uses BCDEdit, he *needs* a Vista CD. there is no way around it
[19:14] <mechtech> qs: btw...what kind of router are you using?
[19:14] <dewdude> he could set grub up to just boot vista with no menu, it'd look like it was gone. that's only if he's really deadset against installing one simple utility
[19:14] <johnny5_> Super grub disk
[19:14] <rumy> i cant get in2 synapic package manager
[19:14] <jimmy51_> linux is awesome for the wife... i haven't had to repair anything due to downloading cutsey mouse pointers or facebook message bombs since i installed it
[19:14] <encino> oh man still very blurr
[19:15] <pepperjack> rumy: are you running as the original user or is this a new user account you created?
[19:15] <qs> mechtech: yeah, i'm starting to wonder whether it's the firewall
[19:15] <AaronT1251> rumy: yeah go to: menu, system, administration, synaptic
[19:15] <encino> is there any website that teach us how to setup will be much simple for me to follow all the steps
[19:15] <johnny5_> dewdude: super grub disk
[19:15] <Rassa> how do I switch between windows in x-chat? I have two rooms up
[19:15] <qs> mechtech: i just did something and i couldn't connect to the remote server, suggests to me that *maybe* the firewall's dropping those packets
[19:15] <dewdude> will super grub disc restore a vista mbr? i've never used it.
[19:15] <mechtech> qs: that would make sense, after all, it's kinda what they're for...you know?
[19:15] <pepperjack> Rassa: you should see tabs along bottom of screen.
[19:15] <johnny5_> dewdude: yes
[19:16] <rumy> its says i hav 2 manually 'dpkg--confiuration-a' to correct the problem
[19:16] <Rassa> oh I'm blind.. Thanks pepperjack
[19:16] <planetary> i just installed firefox 3.5 though when i open it it says 3.0 in the about firefox
[19:16] <Bob_Dole> I'm looking for a way to install libopenal1 on Ubuntu 8.04, it doesn't appear to be available, anyone know where I can obtain a ppa or .deb of it?
[19:16] <th0r> there is a vista rescue iso online that I think will restore the mbr
[19:16] <qs> mechtech: yeah, true... probably best for me to have a word with my friend who got it to work and ask what he did
[19:16] <AaronT1251> rumy: run that command in a terminal as root
[19:16] <KoolD> thor: i googled the port(5110) it says prorat(a MS trojan) uses it.... and there are no standard application associated to the port... aren't there any commands to figure out the applications using it
[19:16] <lstarnes> rumy: open a terminal and type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:16] <Rassa> I'm on Linux, first time in 8 years
[19:16] <qs> mechtech: thanks for your advice anyway! :)
[19:16] <dewdude> all i know about the vista MBR is unless yo've got the right tools, you can't fix it.
[19:16] <rumy> but y wont it open properly?
[19:16] <Rassa> a lot has changed since those early redhat days
[19:17] <johnny5_> dewdude: but then you need that BCD to restore linux and Vista... that's how I did it. I have vista xp and ubuntu on my laptop
[19:17] <AaronT1251> rumy: there is a problem but it should be easy to sort out
[19:17] <rumy> hw du i sort it out?
[19:17] <Kremit> i just got a copy of ubuntu 9.04 in the mail, and i must say im really impressed
[19:17] <mechtech> qs: np=)
[19:17] <th0r> KoolD: none that I know of. you might google that trojan and see if there is anything you can learn about it...but on a linux box I doubt that a trojan is watching the port
[19:17] <Rassa> I'm compliling custom kernel option under ubuntu. When a new kernel comes out will the auto update overwrite my change?
[19:17] <AaronT1251> rumy: by running that command as root
[19:17] <Rassa> compiling*
[19:18] <stefg> !kernel | Rassa
[19:18] <Kremit> my old laptop is running gtk-decorator more smoothly that id ever thought possible JUST on the vesa driver
[19:18] <Kremit> thats pretty crazy
[19:18] <BlueEagle> dewdude: Windows vista can be chain loaded. If you want to restore the boot record that came with vista you will need to either have a backup of it or have Vista restore it. I could have provided you with a backup if it hadn't been that Microsoft believes that it is proprietary software and therefore disallows distribution of it.
[19:18] <KoolD> th0r: got it netstat -lp gives the pid/name. thanks anyways
[19:18] <rumy> nd den wat du i du?
[19:19] <AaronT1251> rumy: what does it say
[19:19] <planetary> ok nevermind its called somthing else?!
[19:19] <dewdude> BlueEagle, I'm aware of it, but archman is the one attempting to get rid of the vista loader
[19:19] <rossand> Trying to debug a dell vostro 1520 laptop running jaunty. external microphone (via. jack) has bad noise. I tried 8.04 and reproduced the issue. I then tried vista and it works fine there. Looking for suggestions to debug & solve. Thanks.
[19:19] <johnny5_> BlueEagle: Super grub disk restored my vista in the Win option ;-) then I used the BCD to make functionality to be able to switch between the two operating systems.
[19:19] <BlueEagle> dewdude: Then I misunderstood.
[19:19] <rumy> i tried nd den
[19:19] <rumy> rumy@rumy-laptop:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:19] <rumy> [sudo] password for rumy:
[19:19] <rumy> Setting up java-common (0.30ubuntu3) ...
[19:19] <rumy> Processing triggers for man-db ...
[19:19] <rumy> Processing triggers for doc-base ...
[19:19] <rumy> Processing 23 changed, 2 added doc-base file(s)...
[19:19] <FloodBot3> rumy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:19] <dewdude> BlueEagle, no problem.
[19:20] <johnny5_> Oh get rid of vista loader... don't want to run vista?
[19:20] <AaronT1251> rumy: it should be still running, just leave it for a while
[19:20] <JoeZiehmer> How do I install Ubuntu 8.04 on a PPC without it going slow to a creep?
[19:20] <dewdude> errr, i probably misexplained....someone wants to get rid of grub and restore vista
[19:20] <jipsy> can i change my graphic from intel to something better??im using a laptop
[19:21] <dewdude> jipsy: not likely. most laptop hardware is embedded in the system. but there's a chance if your system supports that laptop graphic card spec
[19:21] <jipsy> how can i change it?
[19:21] <JoeZiehmer> Or should I try to get rid of gnome and run xfce?  It really does go slow to a crawl completely.
[19:21] <rumy> ok but nw it says i hav a broken package
[19:21] <dewdude> you have to find out if it can be changed first, then if it is, you have to take the laptop apart.
[19:21] <jipsy> okish ^^ thnx
[19:21] <ProfOak> dewdude: go into your bios, and enable compatibility mode on your hard drive
[19:21] <AaronT1251> rumy: see if it will let you into synaptic
[19:21]  * dewdude blinks
[19:22] <dewdude> wrong tab-complete ProfOak?
[19:22] <panfist> i started an ubuntu LAMP server serving some php files; when i navigate to the server, it wants me to save the php files instead of rendering them in the browser
[19:22] <deany> panfist, a2enmod php5
[19:22] <johnny5_> dewdude: I believe the super grub disk did just that. if it doesn't it won't hurt anything to try. You'll still be able to boot into dreaded vista.
[19:22] <rumy> hey yehit did tahnx a lot
[19:22] <JoeZiehmer> dewdude how do I set the Ubuntu 8.04 I'm running the Ubuntu 8.04?
[19:22] <ProfOak> dewdude: Sorry could you repeat that?
[19:22] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: how much RAM do you have ?
[19:22] <gumpish> =/ Annoying problem...  (Jaunty) when I click on a toolbar button to compose new messages in Thunderbird, either to create a new message or to reply to one, the message composition window appears in the foreground but the main window still has focus!
[19:22] <AaronT1251> rumy: np
[19:22] <JoeZiehmer> 784 RAM
[19:23] <Shaun2222> with ubuntu 8.04 is there no /etc/inittab?
[19:23] <rumy> wats da ubuntu equivalent to utorrents?
[19:23] <dewdude> JoeZiehmer, i don't understand what you're asking.
[19:23] <jipsy> can i watch porn using my linux internet??
[19:23] <JoeZiehmer> iMac 500 running Ubuntu only.
[19:23] <johnny5_> AFK
[19:23] <Amerigo> what do you use to control the number of desktops?
[19:23] <dewdude> ProfOak, you told me to go in to bios and enable compability mode....i didn't ask anything about that
[19:23] <dewdude> JoeZiehmer, I still don't understand what you're asking.
[19:23] <AaronT1251> rumy: transmission bitorrent client
[19:23] <JoeZiehmer> Can 784 RAM handle XFCE or Gnome Stef?
[19:23] <bastidrazor> !torrents > rumy
[19:23] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: that should be fine for standard ubuntu... define 'slow'
[19:24] <dewdude> likely, yes.
[19:24] <pepperjack> JoeZiehmer: gnome is just fine on 500MB physical memory
[19:24] <panfist> deany: this module is already enabled
[19:24] <jet_> looking for suggestions on a good music player
[19:24] <deany> panfist, restarted apache?
[19:24] <pepperjack> jet_: xmms ;)
[19:24] <JoeZiehmer> Down to a point where it does not even act and goes to a stop even with #dri
[19:24] <ProfOak> jet_: Banshee
[19:24] <pepperjack> jet_: or rather beep media player
[19:24] <jipsy> can i get virus or is it bad for my linux to watch porn??
[19:24] <JoeZiehmer> Disabling the dri and it does not even work is that part of the hard drive issues that I've heard about?
[19:25] <dewdude> JoeZiehmer, it's an iMac?
[19:25] <balaji> Hello need to find the time I logged into the system
[19:25] <deany> panfist,  installed seperate packages or with tasksel?  http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-apache2-with-php5-and-mysql-support-on-ubuntu-9.04-lamp
[19:25] <JoeZiehmer> Yes its an iMac.
[19:25] <balaji> can somebody help
[19:25] <pepperjack> jipsy: linux virii are pretty much non existent
[19:25] <VCoolio> balaji: "uptime" in terminal
[19:25] <dewdude> JoeZiehmer, what graphics module are you using? I had issues with dri on my iMac for a while
[19:25] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: ATI video i guess?
[19:25] <balaji> Thanks u
[19:25] <jipsy> wats that mean?
[19:25] <JoeZiehmer> iMac 500; yes Stef.
[19:25] <Rassa> to get grub right with this new kernel it is giving me the option to "install the package maintainer's version" or keep the local version currently installed" which should I go with?
[19:25] <jet_> i want a player, that will generate randomized playlists from my library
[19:26] <JoeZiehmer> Sorry my asperger's gets in the why of my communicating sometimes LOL
[19:26] <jet_> to load to a 2 gig mp3 player.....
[19:26] <brianguertin> My computer froze when it was going to sleep, I restarted and now there's no sound (Null Output).  Confirmed sound still working in Windows
[19:26] <jipsy> pepperjack,wat do u min by that?
[19:26] <JoeZiehmer> *way
[19:26] <pepperjack> jipsy: join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask mc44
[19:26] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: my guess is that the video driver is causing trouble...
[19:26] <JoeZiehmer> Change the video to vesa then from ati?
[19:27] <JoeZiehmer> Or the bios open firmware on my mine is still screwed up to hell.
[19:27] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: try it... and disable compiz
[19:27] <panfist> deany i installed separate packages
[19:27] <dewdude> JoeZiehmer, yes. the ati module for the rage cards isn't stable. i had to use vesa back in.....Hoary on my iMac
[19:27] <JoeZiehmer> Change compiz to ati...
[19:28] <panfist> deany sudo apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[19:28] <JoeZiehmer> Let me guess sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[19:28] <kickAss> hello everyone, can someone point me to some command line interpreter for Perl available for ubuntu/linux
[19:28] <deany> panfist, no idea then.  I used tasksel and it works fine, the only thing ive seen to fix downloading php files and not serving em is the module not enabled..  try reinstall it
[19:28] <satya2881988> can any1 help me finding anyremote-j2me-client link
[19:28] <dewdude> no, disable compiz entirely. System -> Preferences -> Appeareance -> Visual effects -> Select None
[19:28] <falco_> hi
[19:28] <AaronT1251> hi
[19:28] <falco_> does anyone know C++?
[19:29] <deany> panfist, or uninstall the pkgs you installed and go for tasksel method or that webpage
[19:29] <falco_> My program is fast in windows, but plays the sound slow in linux(plays after half a second)
[19:29] <rjune_wrk> falco_: depends on what you want.
[19:29] <falco_> I am using the sfml libraries
[19:29] <Pici> falco_: The folks in ##c++ would be the best people to talk to
[19:29] <falco_> ok
[19:29] <JoeZiehmer> Running 6.06 right now can I disable it in terminals or does it have to go through the slow log roll?
[19:29] <kickAss> i've used python interpreter earlier and found it to be quite useful...you dont need to write a complete program, you just write a line to code and test it right away,,, i really like that way
[19:30] <ksbalaji> mine is hardy - I have sigmatel cell with usb connectivity. I need an application -GUI- to connect to the cell. Please suggest  one!!
[19:31] <Bob_Dole> How can I obtain the libopenal1 library for ubuntu 8.04? it doesn't seem to be in the repos. and my googling makes me think it is only in Intrepid.. I want to stay on a LTS, however.
[19:31] <satya2881988> can any1 help me finding anyremote-j2me-client link
[19:31] <kickAss> @ Bob_Dole , not in multiverse repo?
[19:31] <satya2881988> hello bots
[19:31] <kickAss> @ satya2881988 ,,,google dint help?
[19:31] <satya2881988> can any1 help me finding anyremote-j2me-client link
[19:32] <zherkehzi> try the synaptic
[19:32] <kickAss> @ satya2881988 ,,, have patience
[19:32] <satya2881988> sourceforge is very slow
[19:32] <kickAss> so what?
[19:32] <JoeZiehmer> Guess dewdude left.
[19:32] <panfist> deany the problem was that my browser cached an incorrect version of the page
[19:32] <Bob_Dole> kickAss,  sudo apt-get install libopenal1 did nothing..and everything on google says "intrepid" which does me no good on hardy.
[19:33] <JoeZiehmer> Can I disable the compiz in ubuntu 6.06?
[19:33] <Taft> General question, how often should I 'sudo apt-get update'?
[19:33] <deany> panfist, umm
[19:33] <deany> panfist, always the smallest things....
[19:33] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: you should really try something newer ... Dapper is EOL on the desktop
[19:34] <stefg> !dapper
[19:34] <kickAss> @ Bob_Dole , make sure you have multiverse included in your repo, then update your package listing using sudo apt-get update,,,then if apt-cache search <ur lib> returns anything, its fine...else let us know we'll look for it
[19:34] <satya2881988> got it
[19:34] <ksbalaji> 8.04 here - I have a cell phone sigmatel  usb connectivity. I need an application -GUI- to connect/communicate. Please suggest  one!!
[19:34] <kickAss> @ satya2881988 , done?
[19:34] <JoeZiehmer> Stef can I disable compiz in Ubuntu 6.06 or through a terminal?
[19:35] <kickAss> @ JoeZiehmer , u can disable thru compiz config, I guess?
[19:35] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: compiz is not in 6.06... too old.   I'd like to edit it but can't find the files
[19:36] <jonesy_> how can i costum build my ubnutes kernel
[19:36] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: doesn't matter.... ubuntu is not getting /so/ much fatter with each release. Try 8.04
[19:36] <legend2440> Bob_Dole: in hardy it was called  ibopenal0a     http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/libopenal0a
[19:37] <JoeZiehmer> Tried last night  it broke my system.
[19:37] <Paddy_NI> !kernel | jonesy_
[19:37] <kickAss> @ jonesy_ , get the souirce code for kernel ,,compile it and u r done
[19:37] <JoeZiehmer> Had to reinstall all the way up to, today.
[19:37] <stefg> !hardy | JoeZiehmer
[19:37] <satya2881988> not yet got the file at anyremote.sourceforge.net that site was quick but sourceforge.net/projects/anyremote was very slow , why is it so?
[19:37] <zherkehzi> Is setting up a cluster worth the trouble? Is there going to be a major difference in speed?
[19:37] <diego> wenas
[19:37] <jonesy_>   /msg ubottu stages
[19:37] <zherkehzi> !cluster
[19:37] <JoeZiehmer> Yes, but then it takes so long to boot and does not really load it just hangs for a long time.
[19:37] <jonesy_> cheers
[19:38] <pepperjack> zherkehzi: minus: increased headach  plus: bragging rights
[19:38] <jonesy_> lot of noise in here hard to understand it all ah well
[19:38] <zherkehzi> hmm. I just might then. I'l hook up two computer via fiber optic cabels.
[19:38] <jonesy_> whos Edgy?
[19:38] <zherkehzi> that would be awesome
[19:39] <jonesy_> im on 9.04 ?
[19:39] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: however... your options are 8.04, 8.10 or 9.04 ... dapper has no longer support, the browser is ages old and chances are, that a lot of bugs are fixed in newer releases
[19:39] <JoeZiehmer> Can I disable compiz in a nano command?
[19:39] <jonesy_> nano
[19:40] <Bob_Dole> kickAss, multiverse is enabled. It can't find libopenal1
[19:40] <MerlinW> nano is a texteditor:)
[19:40] <bastidrazor> JoeZiehmer, no, in a terminal type metacity --replace &
[19:40] <legend2440> Bob_Dole: in hardy it was called  libopenal0a     http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/libopenal0a
[19:40] <satya2881988> kutta
[19:41] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: There is no compiz in 6.06... you don't need to disable it
[19:41] <JoeZiehmer> But when it boots, it boot slowly stef.
[19:41] <satya2881988> kamina
[19:41] <JoeZiehmer> It doesn't even run up to a total par.
[19:41] <satya2881988> matherchod
[19:42] <Bob_Dole> legend2440, well, can I symlink or some such to make it report under the name libopenal1 then? Tremfusion won't use libopenal0a :/
[19:42] <ksbalaji> 8.04 here - I have a cell phone sigmatel  usb connectivity. I need an application -GUI- to connect/communicate. Please suggest  one!!
[19:42] <JoeZiehmer> What do you think stef it hangs up when it upgrades and nothing.
[19:43] <ke6jqt> install ubuntu on hp touchsmart tx2-1012nr needhelp getting sound to work
[19:43] <JoeZiehmer> Just DOA as soon as it boots up, runs super slowly, and does not respond.
[19:43] <JoeZiehmer> Even with dri disabled it still hangs up.
[19:43] <ttl4> anyone here use video conferencing software such as openmcu?
[19:43] <JoeZiehmer> Tried vesa command in place of ati and still does not respond unless I should do sudo apt-get install vesa?
[19:44] <legend2440> Bob_Dole: are you trying to install  tremfusion_0.99r3_i386.deb?
[19:44] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: try http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/jaunty/release/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-powerpc.iso ... no use in debugging dapper anymore
[19:44] <Bob_Dole> legend, yeah
[19:44] <JoeZiehmer> thats it I never installed the f*cking vesa driver then modify the apperances.
[19:44] <Bob_Dole> legend2440, yeah*
[19:45] <ksbalaji> 8.04 here - I have a cell phone sigmatel  usb connectivity. I need an application -GUI- to connect/communicate. Please suggest  one!!
[19:45] <JoeZiehmer> <------ Sits in corner like Mason from Dead Like Me
[19:45] <legend2440> Bob_Dole: and you get error because of libopenal1?
[19:45] <sangandongo> hiya
[19:45] <JoeZiehmer> Whoops thanks for catching my accident there Stef.
[19:46] <ke6jqt> can someone help with sound problem
[19:46] <Bob_Dole> legend2440, yeah. Dependency unsatisfiable
[19:46] <deany> ksbalaji, wammu
[19:46] <spO> what does the server edition of ubuntu have that the desktop version does not?
[19:46] <sangandongo> what's the issue, ke6jqt?
[19:46] <spO> does it have some kind of different kernel impmentations/ie, does it contain something that is difficult to addon to the desktop version if you install that version instead?
[19:46] <ksbalaji> deany thanks!
[19:47] <stefg> spO: a server kernel and no desktop bloat
[19:47] <ke6jqt> no sound i have hp touchsmart tx12-1012nr notbook
[19:47]  * Bob_Dole is using a 9.04 system, but configuring an older system that works much better with 8.04 than 9.04
[19:47] <ke6jqt> unbuntu 9,04 install
[19:48] <sangandongo> ke6: http://affy.blogspot.com/2008/02/ubuntu-sound-not-working-on-hp.html
[19:48] <sangandongo> google is your friend.
[19:49] <spO> ste, what does the server kernel have that is different from a desktop kernel?
[19:49] <Cube> hey, i want to copy all JPG files in a folder (and its subfolders) to another folder, but some pictures have the same name, so i'd like a different name to be used so it doesnt overwrite anything. [basically gather all pictures, regardless if name is the same]
[19:50] <legend2440> Bob_Dole: have you tried   Tremfusion-0.99r3-linux32.tar.bz2? not sure but that may work
[19:50] <deany> Cube, something like gthumb
[19:50] <Cube> deany: well, im looking for a script (perhaps even a single line command)
[19:51] <sangandongo> I actually have a question regarding 9.04 and the linux-virtual meta package
[19:51] <theTroy> Are there any good book readers? Preferably stylish with animation of the pages and "paper-like" textures for the pages, not just notepad :)
[19:51] <sangandongo> seems that upon installing that and booting to the -server kernel that gets installed, i no longer have networking
[19:51] <sangandongo> of any sort
[19:51] <fsufitch> hi. i have an ubuntu vps and domain name, and i'd like to set up a mail server so that my email address is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>how can i do that?
[19:51] <sangandongo> the devices don't even show up anymore.
[19:51] <stefg> spO: it is compiled with different options... you don't want a responsive desktop on a server, but a reliable workhorse for doznes of users accessing different services at the same time. in short: it's optimized for server workload, not for desktop/single user usage
[19:51] <erUSUL> spO: the compile time configuration is different
[19:51] <Cube> deany: but k ill have a look at gthumb
[19:52] <ugliefrog> !unmount volume
[19:52] <frostburn> fsufitch, check out postfix, and good luck, i'd just use google apps
[19:52] <sangandongo> ugliefrog: try !umount :)
[19:52] <HereticPilgrim> Hi, I have a problem with my ATI driver. Could someone please help me?
[19:53] <fsufitch> frostburn: i want the email addr to forward to my gmail address anyway, so google apps is better for that?
[19:53] <frostburn> fsufitch, i do the same thing
[19:53] <igneousquill> HereticPilgrim: Don't ask for help, just explain your problem and we'll see if anyone knows the answer.
[19:53] <theTroy> Are there any good book readers? Preferably stylish with animation of the pages and "paper-like" textures for the pages, not just notepad :)
[19:53] <legend2440> Bob_Dole: someone may know in channel  #tremfusion
[19:54] <fsufitch> frostburn: i think im going to go with postfix, google apps costs money ;)
[19:54] <ugliefrog> !umount
[19:54] <sangandongo> I think my question was lost in the mix
[19:54] <frostburn> fsufitch, you can get the free standard edition, unless you have a company
[19:55] <sangandongo> I installed the linux-virtual metapackage and upon reboot, i lost all networking
[19:55] <fsufitch> frostburn: they say a free trial for 30 days, and after that $50/user/year
[19:55] <HereticPilgrim> I can't get the fglrx-driver to work. As soon as I install it and reboot, after the loading bar the screen goes black and has some random dots at the top.
[19:55] <fsufitch> frostburn: wait, nvm im silly
[19:55] <satya2881988> does anyone has electronics projects
[19:55] <sangandongo> i noticed this wasn't isolated to the virtual package
[19:55] <sangandongo> it had to do with the -server kernel
[19:55] <sangandongo> anyone else notice this or know whether this is a reported bug?
[19:56] <sangandongo> i've done searching for a few days but have been unable to find an answer
[19:56] <ctmjr> HereticPilgrim: what fglrx driver did you install and what card do you have?
[19:57] <JoeZiehmer> Stef think I might have to stick with Ubuntu 6.06 its the last officially supported brand of PPC by Ubuntu.
[19:57] <Saruji> hello guys, quick question, how can I setup my desktop to remember my sessions so that after you restart everything comes back up....I think this used to be possible with 8.04
[19:57] <johnny5_> How do I get permission to edit rc.local on ubuntu
[19:57] <HereticPilgrim> ctmjr: I have an ATI Radeon HD 2600 Mobile an I used the one from the restricted drivers manager (just clicked activate and rebooted)
[19:57] <sangandongo> JoeZiehmer: That's right
[19:58] <stefg> sangandongo: the server kernel might support a different set of network hardware. what does <lspci | grep net> tell you ?
[19:58] <sangandongo> stefg: it does not
[19:58] <sangandongo> er
[19:58] <JoeZiehmer> Yes, yes so 8.04 will brick the system and make me wait hours to get rid of the mess left by the compiz.
[19:58] <sangandongo> i'm booted into the -generic right now
[19:58] <sangandongo> so i can network.
[19:58] <lstarnes> johnny5_: what are you using for editing it?
[19:58] <JoeZiehmer> Thanks sang.
[19:59] <sangandongo> i assumed the same thing, honestly.
[19:59] <sangandongo> tried to compile a custom kernel
[19:59] <sangandongo> but that failed too
[19:59] <johnny5_> lstarnes: just a text editor
[19:59] <ctmjr> HereticPilgrim: go into the rescue mode console and type sudo aticonfig --initial and see what happens if everything looks good reboot
[19:59] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: Official support has ended.... you'll have to work with community supported versions
[19:59] <lstarnes> johnny5_: which one?
[19:59] <johnny5_> lstarnes: gedit
[19:59] <stefg> !eol | JoeZiehmer
[20:00] <lstarnes> johnny5_: press alt+f2 then enter this: gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local
[20:00] <HereticPilgrim> ctmjr: how do i get into the rescue mode? I'm booting from a live USB stick
[20:00] <JoeZiehmer> Stef upgrading it is not that easy the compiz has to be edited directly and I'd have to find it through terminal and change to vesa.
[20:00] <apoleo12> has anyone encounter strangeist thing with your linux box like the whole os frozed as screen goes black while KB caplock and scroll lock blinks? at end unresponsive?
[20:00] <h1n1> orh
[20:01] <JoeZiehmer> Can I change the compiz when it is starting?
[20:01] <erUSUL> apoleo12: that's a kernel panic
[20:01] <JoeZiehmer> Meaning when the install is starting up?
[20:01] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: get 9.04 and use 'safe graphics mode' for starters
[20:01] <erUSUL> apoleo12: The BSOD of linux
[20:01] <h1n1> anyone know how to change ttl value for my connection?
[20:01] <johnny5_> lstarnes: Didn't work
[20:01] <abbazabba> what would be the best way to connect two computers on one router, both running ubuntu (one running 9, the other running 8).. i'm doing this so i can move files over from 8 to 9
[20:01] <JoeZiehmer> How do I run safe graphics mode?
[20:01] <ctmjr> HereticPilgrim: boot into the broken system at the grub load screen choose rescue mode
[20:01] <h1n1> i googled..and i fail!
[20:02] <erUSUL> apoleo12: you should report it as a kernel bug if you can get log messages etc... or you can reliabily reproduce it
[20:02] <HereticPilgrim> ctmjr
[20:02] <erUSUL> !bugs | apoleo12
[20:02] <rjune_wrk> abbazabba: usually, a switch
[20:02] <mbeierl> abbazabba: you could use a networked file system like nfs, or simply copy the files using something like scp
[20:02] <stefg> abbazabba: if there's no windows/samba involved i'd use nfs
[20:02] <HereticPilgrim> ctmjr: thanks I'll try this. What if it doesn't work?
[20:02] <rjune_wrk> router goes to switch, computers go to switch.
[20:02] <stefg> !nfs | abbazabba
[20:02] <abbazabba> rjune_wrk: so there is no way i can connect the two even though they are on the same routher
[20:02] <johnny5_> I'm getting the popup "you do not have permissions nessary to edit this file
[20:02] <abbazabba> stef and mbeiririri thank you
[20:02] <apoleo12> Really? theres BSOD exists? I always thought linux is stable?
[20:03] <abbazabba> apoleo12: i've had it blue out on me.. it's been rare but it happens
[20:03] <mbeierl> apoleo12: stable and 100% completely free of bugs are two different things :)
[20:03] <erUSUL> apoleo12: there is no "bug free" software
[20:03] <pepperjack> johnny5_: sudo or gksudo for gui app for instance gksudo gedit
[20:03] <grkblood2> sure there is
[20:03] <grkblood2> windows is bug free
[20:03] <apoleo12> Ok, so Ill report it... but Im still learning at everything all at once ;)
[20:04] <ctmjr> HereticPilgrim: if it does not work try this sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg it will set it too default then reboot
[20:04] <erUSUL> apoleo12: and do not forget that busted hardwar can couse kernel panics
[20:04] <apoleo12> erUSUL: yeah Ill keep in mind.. but long live linux!!!
[20:04] <mbeierl> apoleo12: especially when it comes to "proprietary" video drivers like nVidia or ATI
[20:04] <johnny5_> pepperjack: what?
[20:04] <JoeZiehmer> Stef how do I log into safe graphics mode?
[20:04] <roger21> hello
[20:05] <abbazabba> stefg: is nfs a command based?
[20:05] <HereticPilgrim> ctmjr: thanks. be right back
[20:05] <abbazabba> mbeierl: can you tell me more about scp?
[20:05] <satya2881988> problem enabling desktop effects in ubuntu 9.04
[20:05] <petllama> abbazabba: http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/BecomingRoot
[20:05] <petllama> errr
[20:05] <petllama> wrong paste, sry
[20:05] <stefg> JoeZiehmer: it's a boot option ... press F6 (or was it F4) in the boot menu (where you are asked for the language setting)
[20:05] <abbazabba> haha
[20:05] <petllama> http://www.hypexr.org/linux_scp_help.php
[20:05] <mbeierl> !scp | abbazabba
[20:05] <apoleo12> erUSUL: I doubt my hardware is busted as it runs smoothly so far.... so where can I find the log msg? system log?
[20:06] <pepperjack> johnny5_: in order to edit a config file like that that is not under your home directory you need to launch gedit with root permissions so from a terminal type gksudo gedit
[20:06] <xerox1> any recommendations for a mpd client? i am using ncmpc, but i am a bit unhappy with it
[20:06] <rjune_wrk> abbazabba: GNOME will mount a remote system via scp.
[20:06] <mbeierl> abbazabba: so you will need to install the openssh-server using apt-get
[20:06] <apoleo12> mbeierl: Ok I get you and thats true
[20:06] <erUSUL> apoleo12: /var/log/messages  and /var/log/syslog are a good start
[20:06] <apoleo12> ok thanks
[20:06] <JoeZiehmer> Then turn off compiz from the safe boot option from there?
[20:07] <mbeierl> now if only I could find out information about gvfs and fuse options ?!?!? :)
[20:07] <Evet> go go rasputin
[20:07] <abbazabba> mbeierl: so i just have to install openssh on both
[20:07] <roger21> i just got into 8.10 with all the hal thing instead of xorg.conf, i lost some nice mice/keb config in the evol and i would like to know if it is ok if i put my xorg conf back or is it going to mess up the whole system (i just don't want to jump into the .fdi files right know) ?
[20:07] <abbazabba> start them up then i'm good to go?
[20:07] <abbazabba> rjune_wrk: and after openssh is running, i could just pretty much nautilus my stuff over?
[20:07] <roger21> now
[20:07] <xerox1> any recommendations for a mpd client? i am using ncmpc, but i am a bit unhappy with it <- more precise: i am looking for a terminal based client
[20:07] <sangandongo> stefg: i'm a bit rusty, how do i go about adding support for those network drivers in the -server kernel? i will have to compile a custom?
[20:07] <stefg> abbazabba: it requires editing some conf files (/etc/exports and /etc/fstab on the target machine). But that's not too hard to do with the How To at hand and it'S really *much* faster and easier than samba once you got the hanf of it
[20:07] <mbeierl> abbazabba: technically you only need the server on one.  The "client" would make the connection and then either send or receive all the data from the other
[20:08] <mbeierl> abbazabba: alternatively, you could always take the hard disk out of the 8.x machine, put it into the 9.04 machine, mount it locally and copy the files :)
[20:08] <erUSUL> !repeat | xerox1
[20:09] <wjblack> Hello!
[20:09] <abbazabba> mbeierl: haha f that, i spent the last three hours in a machine, i don't want to disect one and add to this
[20:09] <JoeZiehmer> Thanks for the help stef.
[20:09] <satya2881988> intel 865G drivers
[20:09] <rjune_wrk> abbazabba: you have to "mount" the system, but yeah.
[20:09] <abbazabba> stefg: which are you talking about nfs or scp
[20:09] <mbeierl> abbazabba: I hear you
[20:09] <JoeZiehmer> So its a safe graphics boot and then disabling from there compiz.
[20:09] <mbeierl> abbazabba: stefg would be referring to nfs
[20:10] <safruhani> hi,using 8.10 yesterday i've installed ubuntu-tweak , now the compiz menu is disabled but it's working and i couldn't stop... How can i stop compiz window specialications ?
[20:10] <stefg> abbazabba: nfs ... scp is ssh -based...
[20:10] <xerox1> erUSUL, i like to wait, but i addded an important fact to it: i need a console app and not a gui based...
[20:10] <abbazabba> mbeierl: (i should stop having so many convo's at once) so technically all i have to do is install openssh-server on the one.. then i could take it all via nautilus?
[20:10] <apoleo12> Ok I have two logs open... and the ubuntu-bug <package> is he command? if so how? In the terminal?
[20:10] <erUSUL> abbazabba: if it is a "one time" copy  and you do not want a permanent set up you can use netcat a tar to make the copy
[20:10] <satya2881988> can anyone help me
[20:10] <erUSUL> xerox1: ok; fair enough
[20:10]  * wjblack had the -13 kernel a while back and ended up with some grody ext3 corruption.  Do we have a canned answer on how to deal with that yet?  I've upgraded to 2.6.30 and run e2fsck when booted from a USB stick, but an md5 of a given 4G file keeps coming out differently...
[20:10] <mbeierl> abbazabba: no.  ssh is a secure connection server
[20:11] <mbeierl> abbazabba: scp is a command line utility that copies files over ssh
[20:11] <stefg> sangandongo: first find out what hardware you have, then you'll see what you have to do to get it working (usually soemone has paved the way already)
[20:11] <mbeierl> that is why nfs is probably easier
[20:11] <sangandongo> i found it.
[20:11] <abbazabba> erUSUL: it is gonna be a one time copy, what's this netcat you are talking about?
[20:12] <sangandongo> stefg: one moment.
[20:12] <erUSUL> wjblack: so you got a corruption in only a file ? that's too subtle ... you better take that to ubuntu kernel devs or ext3 developers...
[20:12] <mbeierl> abbazabba: if you want to use nautilus that is.  if you want to simply copy a directory and all its subdirs, scp might be quicker
[20:12] <abbazabba> mbeierl: ohh i'd rather do it through the gui if possible, so you are saying nfs is my way
[20:12] <abbazabba> mbeierl: it'd be through multiple directories
[20:12] <wjblack> erUSUL: I've been getting weirdness everywhere--the 4G file example is just a nicely repeatable problem.
[20:13] <JoeZiehmer> Thanks stef
[20:13] <erUSUL> abbazabba: http://www.screenage.de/blog/2007/12/30/using-netcat-and-tar-for-network-file-transfer/
[20:13] <mbeierl> abbazabba: it would allow you to use nautilus much more easily, yes.  To do the same with SSH would require you to set up SSH FS (a file system driver over SSH)
[20:13] <sangandongo> stefg: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5752M Gig Eth and Atheros Comm AR5121 Wireless 802.11abg
[20:13] <wjblack> I've seen complaints about the -13 kernel and was wondering if there's a known-to-not-corrupt one that's preferred.
[20:13] <spO> any of you use a remote control with ubuntu?
[20:14] <apoleo12> Ok I have two logs open... and the ubuntu-bug <package> is he command? if so how? In the terminal?
[20:14] <dave_30> is there a decent way to sync an ipod touch with ubuntu
[20:14] <HereticPilgrim> ctmjr: I can't get into rescue mode. it says "there is no dedicated rescure mode on this disc"
[20:14] <safruhani> hi, how can i remove the graphic card drivers... becouse compiz enable but i can't disable it from menu...
[20:14] <satya2881988> buh
[20:15] <jonesy_> why do you want them removed safruhani
[20:15] <sangandongo> safru: killall compiz :)
[20:15] <stefg> sangandongo: that's wireless network... the -server kernel surely does not deal with these in depth. Any particular reason you need the -server kernel ?
[20:16] <sangandongo> stefg: because it gets installed by default when installing the linux-virtual metapackage
[20:16] <safruhani> compiz is enable, but it says, i can't enable it sangandongo jonesy_, i wan't to stop it and did what u sayi but nothing changes
[20:16] <designer> why does compiz remove my title bars and won't rotate as a cube?
[20:16] <stefg> sangandongo: what are you doing?  set up a virtual machine?
[20:16] <designer> no
[20:16] <sangandongo> stefg: yes.
[20:17] <koziolek> quit
[20:17] <HereticPilgrim> ctmjr: I can't get into rescue mode. it says "there is no dedicated rescure mode on this disc"
[20:17] <safruhani> sangandongo: jonesy_ when u change the windows via alt+tab, it gets a screenshots of windows, this is enable, and i can't stop it...
[20:17] <Gadu> I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 and I NEED gcc 4.4 but it currently only seems to have 4.3. What is the easiest way to get 4.4 on this?
[20:17] <safruhani> jonesy_: sangandongo i've installed ubuntu-tweak yesterday on ubuntu 8.10
[20:18] <sangandongo> stefg: KVM/QEMU load fine, I get all the hardware support, but was getting issues after the installation point. I am now attempting other paths to get the vm to work successfully.
[20:18] <Gadu> Karmic appears to have 4.4 but I don't intend to update to it
[20:18] <safruhani> ok i found it :)
[20:18] <stefg> sangandongo: the virtual guest machine does only see some virtualized interfaces ... how come that you see physical hardware fom inside the virtual machine ?
[20:18] <sangandongo> stefg: i think the matter is getting a bit muddled.
[20:19]  * stefg too
[20:19] <sangandongo> stefg: I think you've pointed me in a better direction anyhow
[20:19] <sangandongo> stefg: i'll see if i can figure out another way to deal with this.
[20:19] <h1n1> Interface: ppp0 Bandwidth: +44k/s -1k/s
[20:20] <safruhani> sangandongo: jonesy_ on ubuntu-tweak windows menu, at the bottom of the page  enable Metacity's compositing feature  is default ... problem is solved, thanks your patience
[20:20] <Gadu> would download the gcc-4.4 package from karmic or debian function properly on my intrepid install?
[20:20] <saml> what are packages I need to use vnc?  i did apt-get install tightvnc    then when I do startx, it says exec: 5: /usr/bin/X11/X: not found
[20:21] <johnny5_> peperjack: How can I give myself permission to edit any file that way? I'm really getting tired of the permissions heh I just started doing "extra" stuff on my ubuntu and it's really anoying not being able to "GUI" what you want to do.
[20:21] <stefg> samtdon't mix up client and server
[20:21] <stefg> saml: don't mix up client and server
[20:22] <saml> stefg, i have vncserver running, i'm trying to vnc into it using widows
[20:22] <saml> from windows machine
[20:22] <saml> but i see blank screen. that's why i tried startx on the server
[20:22] <johnny5_> I thought just logging in as root would work but it won't even let me login as root. I've added myself to all the groups I found.
[20:22] <stefg> saml: but you have no X /runnig headless on the machine with the vnc-server ?
[20:23] <sangandongo> thanks everyone.
[20:23] <sangandongo> bye.
[20:23] <persistantubuntu> hello. i am running ubuntu with persistent changes. should i do an update ?
[20:23] <jimcooncat> saml, if you're using vncserver, your display will be :1, not :0
[20:23] <saml> stefg, yah. i just did apt-get install tightvnc   i'm using server version of ubuntu
[20:24] <Gadu> johnny_: rather than logging in a root, I'd recommend `sudo su` for root work in terminal and `gksudo <program name>` for gui work as root
[20:24] <HereticPilgrim> I have a problem with my live usb boot. I can't get into rescue mode to save my fglrx
[20:24] <stefg> saml: i think taht needs a bit of configuration... http://stevenharman.net/blog/archive/2008/12/13/vnc-to-a-headless-ubuntu-box.aspx might help
[20:24] <jonesy_> fglrx lol
[20:24] <saml> stefg, thank you
[20:24] <HereticPilgrim> jonesy: what?
[20:25] <jonesy_> i have problems with fglrx
[20:25] <johnny5_> saml: VNC into ubuntu from windows, I use ultraVNC on my windows machine the remote desktop connection didn't work for me. then you just type in "hostname:0"
[20:25] <otacon122> What difference would 4-4-4-12 PC6400 RAM make over 5-5-5-15 PC6400?
[20:26] <HereticPilgrim> can anyone tell me how to get into rescue mode from a live USB boot? thank you
[20:26] <saml> is there a command to kill vncserver or do I use kill ?
[20:26] <saml> vncserver -kill lol
[20:27] <saml> how do I know which display my vncserver is running?
[20:27] <saml> man vncserver doesn't seem to have a way
[20:27] <otacon122> johnny, can the current stable release of Samba do routing?
[20:27] <jimd> HereticPilgrim: if you have a live session then I would just open a terminal window, sudo su - (to become root), use fdisk -l (to list the partitions on your hard disks) and then manually create mount points (/mnt/targ) and mount up your filesystems by hand.
[20:27] <stefg> saml: usually it's <IP_ADDRESS>:0 ... or wahtever your server IP is
[20:28] <jimd> Once you have a live session then you don't really need a separate "rescue mode"
[20:28] <Gadu> anyone for gcc 4.4 on ubuntu?
[20:28] <johnny5_> if your just using the built in vncserver System-> Preferences -> Remote desktop and in there there is a "link" that shows it.
[20:28] <HereticPilgrim> jimd: sorry I forgot to mention: I can't boot anymore because my fglrx driver is screwed up
[20:29] <johnny5_> also vncserver uses default port 5900 if you have a firewall...
[20:29] <dave_30> does the ssh sync still work with non 3.0 ipod touches
[20:30] <jimd> HereticPilgrim: I mean if you can boot from the CD or a USB then you have a live session from which you can debug any other problems you're having.
[20:30] <jimd> If you mean that you're USB installation is broken, try booting with the "2" argument (runlevel 2 ... should be text only)
[20:31] <jimd> Failing that try passing the following options through your bootloader: init=/bin/sh
[20:31] <johnny5_> pepperjack: I'm still getting the permissions error even after typing that in terminal
[20:32] <otacon122> How good is Quagga at routing for small networks (10 devices)?
[20:32] <bastidrazor> HereticPilgrim, you need to mount you / partition then edit you xorg.conf .. change the fglrx driver to vesa .. this will enable you to boot and uninstall fglrx. or you could boot in recovery and do it from a shell
[20:33] <bastidrazor> HereticPilgrim, i'm assuming xserver-xorg-video-radeon is the driver you'll be wanting to get things back in working order
[20:33] <HereticPilgrim> bastidrazor: isn't that the one that's already on the 9.04?
[20:34] <bastidrazor> HereticPilgrim, i believe so yes.. the restricted driver.
[20:34] <legend2440> otacon122:    there is a channel   #quagga   if no one knows here
[20:35] <HereticPilgrim> bastidrazor: and this driver will work properly?
[20:36] <MyWay`> Hi, how to do aliases with sendmail? I just need to forward 2-3 address
[20:36] <bastidrazor> HereticPilgrim, it does for most ati cards. there is no guarantee
[20:36] <sebsebseb> !ops |  legend2440  channal promotion
[20:36] <HereticPilgrim> bastidrazor: and will I be able to run 3D-apps and compiz?
[20:36] <Pici> sebsebseb: ??
[20:37] <legend2440> sebsebseb: i was telling someone where they could get help
[20:37] <sebsebseb> Pici: oh thought he was  advertising some random channal, which isn't really meant to be done
[20:37] <bastidrazor> HereticPilgrim, the radeon allows me to use compiz and 3D ..
[20:37] <sebsebseb> legend2440 pici,  ok my bad
[20:37] <HereticPilgrim> bastidrazor: I found an entry on the internet where it says it should work for my chipset (ATI Radeon HD 2600 Mobile)
[20:37] <Pici> sebsebseb: Someone was asking for quagga help, he just suggested a channel.
[20:37] <lgc> Hi. What's the difference between mounting Ubuntu standalone or mounting it "as another program" from Windows? (I'm citing from memory, but it is something like that on the installation disk.)
[20:37] <bastidrazor> HereticPilgrim, there is also the radeonhd driver. that may be a choice too
[20:37] <Pici> sebsebseb: :)
[20:37] <HereticPilgrim> bastidrazor: okay, I'll just go with the one installed by default
[20:37] <sebsebseb> Pici: what's  quagga it does sound random
[20:38] <Pici> sebsebseb: No idea, it sounds open-sourcey though ;)
[20:38] <HereticPilgrim> bastidrazor: but it says it's only for newer graphic cards
[20:38] <erUSUL> Pici: sebsebseb is router software (fork of zebra iirc)
[20:38] <bastidrazor> HereticPilgrim, then stick with radeon. i tried several drivers before settling on radeon
[20:38] <Taft> Hi. My headphones and speakers simply don't work on my laptop ever since installing ubuntu. What's worse, when I plug in my headphones and unplug them, my LAPTOP speakers don't work for minutes ;_;
[20:39] <Taft> anyone know the plroblem?
[20:39] <sebsebseb> erUSUL: ah ok
[20:40] <stefg> !sound | taft
[20:41] <Taft> !sound
[20:42] <harry__> I want a good video/audio converter for ubuntu 9.04?? Do someone know???
[20:42] <jrib> harry__: ffmpeg
[20:42] <stefg> Taft: yup... the bot will give the same factoid over and over
[20:43] <der_On> Hello. I've just used a font manager called Fontmatrix to use some postscript fonts in Gimp and now it seems my standard fonts have been replaced with some odd narrow, unreadable font. Anyone any idea on how to bring back my default system fonts? It's mostly the problem with browsing web-sites. Some text is displayed in this narrow font.
[20:43] <Solaris444> hi everyone.  is this the right channel to ask about ubuntu server?
[20:43] <kn100> Is there a port of bonsai buddy for linux?
[20:43] <harry__> do someone try arch linux???
[20:44] <erUSUL> Solaris444: yes here or in #ubuntuserver
[20:44] <HereticPilgrim> bastidrazor: thanks for your help :)
[20:44] <Solaris444> kn100, please tell me you are pulling our legs.
[20:44] <kn100> No
[20:44] <Solaris444> thanks erUSUL
[20:44] <kn100> i want it
[20:44] <erUSUL> !ot > harry__
[20:44] <Solaris444> kn100, no you don't
[20:44] <Solaris444> it ships with spyware.
[20:44] <kn100> i miss the price comparison features
[20:44] <kn100> it doesnt
[20:44] <bastidrazor> HereticPilgrim, good luck
[20:44] <sh4rk89> hi people
[20:44] <kn100> :P im pulling your leg
[20:44] <kn100> im not that stupid
[20:44] <harry__> private???
[20:44] <FloodBot3> kn100: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:44] <stefg> !offtopic
[20:45] <Solaris444> kn100: you never know.  I had someone ask me if computer viruses were actual bugs that live in your computer.  and if there was a spray you could buy to kill them.
[20:45] <asger> i need some help with flash. i think i've tryed so many different things, that i've made quite a mess. Right now i can't view flash content on web-pages
[20:46] <MyWay`> Hi, how to do aliases with sendmail? I just need to forward 2-3 address
[20:46] <Solaris444> in any case, I'm running ubuntu server 8.10 LTS, and I was wondering if dist-upgrade updates my kernel to the same one as in 9.04 or if it just applies fixes to the 8.10 one
[20:46] <om26er> can anyone help me firefox is looking like thshttp://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9941/screenshot1aow.png
[20:46] <matreya6> Can anyone help me with a Ubuntux64 multiboot system that can't seem to install GRUB the right way. I'm using a 4 Hdd Box with two disks in RAID1 (containing /home) and another disk containing 3 OS'es, Ubuntu Jaunty 64 Bit, WinXP32Bit and Win2008 Server?
[20:46] <stefg> !upgrade | Solaris444
[20:46] <disown> hey. I just discovered that my /var/log/apache2 has access set to 0750, just wondering if my box has been messed with or if this is standard.
[20:48] <Taft> how do I know if I have a built in sound card?
[20:48] <Tr1n> asger:  I had the same problem until I removed some package called swfsomething.  Maybe a search for apt-get remove swf will help?  I can't remember it's name.
[20:48] <erUSUL> Taft: lspci | grep -i audio
[20:48] <matreya6> Taft, try lspci | grep AUDIO
[20:48] <Solaris444> ok stefg, but then how do i apply security updates to my 8.04 kernel?
[20:48] <johnny5_> I'm trying to get permission to my rc.local file to edit it, sksudo gedit doesn't seem to be working
[20:48] <erUSUL> Solaris444: do the normal updates ?
[20:48] <Bart6114> does anyone know if a (opensource) application exists that automatically downloads all the images from a given website?
[20:49] <harry__> logout
[20:49] <erUSUL> johnny5_: gksudo
[20:49] <harry__> quit
[20:49] <asger> Tr1n, okay, i'll give it a go
[20:49] <Solaris444> erUSUL:  I do apt-get upgrade, but it says linux-image-server and linux-server held back
[20:49] <tuxxie> Bart6114, wget
[20:49] <Tr1n> asager:  web search, that is
[20:49] <erUSUL> Bart6114: wget can do that... httrack too ?
[20:49] <habibi> i had the sam problem the ubuntu 9.04 the interface graphic not driver for geforce 6200 for ubuntu 9.04 i have you the me problem?
[20:49] <harry__> anyone tell me how to logout from the channel???
[20:49] <erUSUL> Solaris444: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[20:50] <habibi> help me please people
[20:50] <Solaris444> which i have discovered requires dist-upgrade, but I don't WANT to upgrade the distro, just apply security updates to my kernel.
[20:50] <habibi> ?
[20:50] <erUSUL> harry__: /part
[20:50] <harry__> part
[20:50] <Trijntje> !patience|habibi
[20:50] <Bart6114> tuxxie, erUSUL: thx, didn't know that, I'll look in to it right away
[20:50] <Solaris444> hmmm ok. interesting.  thanks erUSUL
[20:50] <harry__> harry_: /part
[20:50] <matreya6> harry__, with the / and append the channel
[20:50] <erUSUL> Solaris444: well if you do dist-upgrade whitout changing sources you wont upgrade to the knew distro
[20:50] <harry__> harry_: /part ubuntu
[20:50] <stefg> Solaris444: security updates are backported to your kernel... you'll never get a newer kernel by dist-upgrade, only the patches for your 8.04 kernel
[20:50] <habibi> ok ubottu me this part the channels #ubuntu thank
[20:51] <habibi> ok ubottu me this part the channels #ubuntu thanks for question
[20:51] <Solaris444> ahh that's what i wanted to know.
[20:51] <Solaris444> thanks stefg
[20:51] <asger> Tr1n, damn. couldn't fint the package, i prob need the specifik name