[00:01] <Jester009> I am having issues installing/starting up xubuntu on a compaq presario 1675 that has xp installed on it. The bios miss the cutoff date (1999) and I have tried booting it with options acpi=force acpi=off acpi=old boot but nothing seems to keep it from freezing at "Starting common Unix Printing Cupsd". Anyone know any fixes. I do no have the computer hooked up to a printer
[00:02] <squeak> Does anyone know how to stream a linux desktop so it will show up as a webcaM?
[00:02] <kunzy> miguel_c:  I have the shortcut keys configured in the System>Preferances>keyboard Shortcuts, but Amarok wont use them.     Is there a ver of winamp that will work in ubuntu?
[00:02] <joel> no winamp, why would you want winamp?
[00:02] <cola> can i enabe 3d accel. in ubuntu im usin ati radeon x1650
[00:03] <kunzy> eh, i got used to it.   that and all the plugins make it easy to interface my circuits to music
[00:03] <tortoise---> hello folks, how goes it
[00:03] <k-oz> hello
[00:03] <IndyGunFreak> !hi
[00:03] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[00:03] <miguel_c> kunzy: you have to make it work for Amarok, forget windows appz
[00:03] <miguel_c> :p
[00:03] <cola> can i enabe 3d accel. in ubuntu im usin ati radeon x1650
[00:04] <miguel_c> just google about how to make multimedia keys work in ubuntu system
[00:04] <IndyGunFreak> !patience | cola try it, its a virtue
[00:04] <ubotu> cola try it, its a virtue: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[00:04] <kunzy> miguel_c:   (sigh) thats going to be a tough one........    k will do
[00:04] <IndyGunFreak> cola: but the ATI drivers are known to be crappy.
[00:04] <miguel_c> kunzy:  im under a xubuntu system atm so I can't help you with amarok now
[00:04] <miguel_c> kunzy: it's tough at the beginning
[00:04] <cola> so i cant enable 3d :(
[00:04] <miguel_c> then you'll get used to, and addicted I hope =)
[00:04] <linkinxp> Ubuntu rocks :D
[00:05] <tortoise---> do any of you folks happen to know off hand a good soure for an updated gutsy /etc/apt/sources.list ? the default one, all the servers time out
[00:05] <linkinxp> cola,  try installing compiz :D
[00:05] <tortoise---> same with aptitude, either if i try to apt-get update or aptitude update
[00:05] <cola> i installed it
[00:05] <cola> and works great
[00:05] <reya276> is it safe to install Hardy beta yet?
[00:05] <linkinxp> cola,  so? whats wrong then?
[00:05] <kunzy> miguel_c: ok, well is there a better media player for ubuntu that i can use or is amarok the way to go?    And yea, i hope i get used to it.   I need to expand my horizons, got tired of looking at the same stuff out my windows
[00:05] <linkinxp> reya276,  im using it
[00:06] <kunzy> :P
[00:06] <linkinxp> reya276,  no problem :d
[00:06] <cola> but when i try to playonlinux it tells me that i dont have 3d
[00:06] <binarical-app> cola: perhaps you could check under restricted drivers, if theres something applicable
[00:06] <reya276> linkinxp: really, no graphic driver issues
[00:06] <linkinxp> cola,  im not sure about that
[00:06] <reya276> because that is really my only concern
[00:06] <linkinxp> reya276,  i have a dell inspiron 1525 and nop not at all
[00:06] <unop> tortoise---, can you ping any of the mirrors?
[00:07] <cola> or i if i open ati control centre it tells me that i dont have graphic driver installed
[00:07] <tortoise---> unop, i will check
[00:07] <linkinxp> cola,  acc for linux?
[00:07] <cola> binarical-app: i tried that
[00:07] <reya276> what about software issues with firefox, openoffice or gimp
[00:07] <cola> linkinxp:  yes
[00:07] <Jester009> I am having issues installing/starting up xubuntu on a compaq presario 1675 that has xp installed on it. The bios miss the cutoff date (1999) and I have tried booting it with options acpi=force acpi=off acpi=old boot but nothing seems to keep it from freezing at "Starting common Unix Printing Cupsd". Anyone know any fixes. I do no have the computer hooked up to a printer
[00:07] <linkinxp> reya276,  none im using firefox beta 5 and openoffice its ok and gimp i havent used too much but i guess its ok
[00:08] <kunzy> So what does everyone use to listen to music in Ubuntu?  whats the best?
[00:08] <brian_> unop: Wellll, after spilling half a glass of pepsi all over my desk, then putting it on the floor so I didn't spill while I cleaned it up, then kicking it as I walked out, then cleaning THAT up... :D I'm back. What is the build-essential package? How do I get that?
[00:08] <cola> kunzy amarok
[00:08] <linkinxp> kunzy,  Amarok?
[00:08] <tortoise---> unop: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com and security.* both time out
[00:08] <ricanelite> is there a application out there where I could record my desktop? and upload it to sites like youtube, personal sites?
[00:08] <Starnestommy> brian_: sudo apt-get install build-essential or look in system > administration > synaptic package manager
[00:08]  * binarical-app thinks brian learned a lesson
[00:08] <IndyGunFreak> kunzy: audacious.. cuz i don't like bastard KDE libs.. :)
[00:08] <linkinxp> ricanelite,  let me see im interested in that :D
[00:08] <Scunizi> I just acquired an old Gateway2000 P5-60 w/Win95 and want to put ubuntu on it. (or xubuntu). The AMI bios doesn't allow for booting to the CD rom.. how do I get around this?
[00:09] <tortoise---> unop: it's weird because apache is definitely accessible by the outside world... this is a brand new install too
[00:09] <brian_> Starnestommy: Ah, of course... Thanks
[00:09] <kunzy> ok, looks like amarok is the popular.    But i will look into audacious
[00:09] <Starnestommy> brian_: it contains necessary programs, libraries, and tools for building new programs from sourcd
[00:09] <Starnestommy> *source
[00:09] <IndyGunFreak> ricanelite: i t hink the program is called exactly that, recordmydesktop
[00:09] <unop_> tortoise---, what does apache have to do with apt?
[00:09] <IndyGunFreak> !info recordmydesktop
[00:09] <ubotu> recordmydesktop (source: recordmydesktop): Captures audio-video data of a linux desktop session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.4-1 (gutsy), package size 41 kB, installed size 124 kB
[00:09] <ryanakca> !dpkglock
[00:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpkglock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:09] <linkinxp> ricanelite,  :D
[00:09] <ricanelite> thanks IndyGunFreak
[00:09] <ryanakca> what's the factoid for a locked dpkg?
[00:09] <IndyGunFreak> ricanelite: np
[00:09] <ricanelite> how can I send you a message your name is in red
[00:10] <tortoise---> unop_: well, just that there is net access is all
[00:10] <ricanelite> on the chat
[00:10] <linkinxp> IndyGunFreak,  can i broadcast?
[00:10] <unop_> !adeptcrash | ryanakca
[00:10] <ubotu> ryanakca: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:10] <ryanakca> unop_: thanks :)
[00:10] <Starnestommy> ricanelite: like this?
[00:10] <emma> Scunizi, could you connect it to the internet and download the install directly to it?
[00:10] <ricanelite> yeah
[00:10] <IndyGunFreak> linkinxp: i imagine, you probably just end up putting it on youtube, etc
[00:10] <unop_> tortoise---, errm, can you ping those mirrors?
[00:10] <Starnestommy> ricanelite: put their name at the beginning of the message
[00:10] <IndyGunFreak> ricanelite: you just say my name, thats all.
[00:10] <linkinxp> IndyGunFreak,  i mean in realtime
[00:10] <tortoise---> unop_: they time out, all of them that i see
[00:11] <ricanelite> IndyGunFeak thanks
[00:11] <IndyGunFreak> linkinxp: oh, now that i don't know.
[00:11] <Gilli> w00t
[00:11] <linkinxp> IndyGunFreak,  ill check thanks
[00:11] <Scunizi> emma: I just stuck an old nic card into it.. but how would I download directly to it for install? I'm missing something.
[00:11] <unop_> tortoise---, are you using the standard mirrors?
[00:11] <brian_> Starnestommy: Out of curiousity, why does my laptop have that? I haven't installed anything on it in the past coupla months since I installed Ubuntu, and I've certainly never installed that package manually
[00:11] <IndyGunFreak> ricanelite: lol, didn't work..lol, you probably used a space or something.. use tab to autocomplete names
[00:11] <LjL> Gopher99: hello
[00:11] <ricanelite> Stamesstommy: okay
[00:11] <LjL> !test
[00:11] <ubotu> Failed.
[00:11] <unop_> tortoise---, actually, let's have a look at your sources.list -- can you use a !pastebin and show it to us?
[00:11] <IndyGunFreak> !phail
[00:11] <ricanelite> Stamesstommy:okay
[00:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phail - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:11] <tortoise---> unop_: yes, the default ones at least, haven't touched the sources.list file
[00:12] <Gopher99> LjL: .hey
[00:12] <tortoise---> unop_: sure
[00:12] <IndyGunFreak> is ubotu being picky again?
[00:12] <brian_> Starnestommy: Never installed it, yet the program I'm usin works great :S same program as I'm trying on the other computer
[00:12] <LjL> IndyGunFreak: no, i was testing something else
[00:12] <ricanelite> lndyGunFreak:um
[00:12] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok.
[00:12] <emma> Scunizi, I thought if you could download the whole cd to the hard drive, then you could use that.
[00:12] <ricanelite> i give up
[00:12] <ricanelite> lol
[00:12] <linkinxp> IndyGunFreak,  no broadcast :P
[00:12] <IndyGunFreak> ricanelite: oh i see the prob, your'e using L as the first letter.. should be an I..(i)
[00:12] <ricanelite> IndyGunFreak, ahhh there we go!
[00:12] <IndyGunFreak> :)
[00:13] <ricanelite> IndyGunFreak, nice
[00:13] <unop_> ricanelite, does your client not have tab-completion?
[00:13] <tortoise---> unop_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62374/ ... it had a space at the top as well
[00:13] <IndyGunFreak> ricanelite: anyways, recordmydesktop is in the repos, should be pretty easy to install, but i have no experience in its use
[00:13] <duli> Please, help: I was trying to recover the Windows mbr through Ubuntu with ms-sys --mbr /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/sda, and now my windows partition is unbootable...
[00:13] <linkinxp> ricanelite,  i just installed its pretty easy but it doesnt broadcast
[00:13] <Scunizi> emma, no that won't work.. there would be no way to boot to the installer..
[00:14] <unop_> tortoise---, you've got 'gutsy' spelt wrong :)
[00:14] <IndyGunFreak> linkinxp: i think he said before he wanted to put it on youtube
[00:14] <emma> Scunizi - could you put it on many many floppies?
[00:14] <linkinxp> IndyGunFreak,  ho my bad :(
[00:14] <tortoise---> unop_: in the sources.list, really...
[00:14] <Scunizi> unop_: spelt isn't a word.. it's "spelled".. :)
[00:14] <tortoise---> unop_: that's FUNNY... that's what it came installed with
[00:14] <tortoise---> haha, zing
[00:15] <SpookyET>  I have a peculiar problem. If I connect my 1080p to my laptop while I'm in gnome, not only do I get a low resolution on my laptop, I also get a low resolution on the 1080p. If I connect it before GDM, I get full resolution on my laptop and 1080p. I'm using xrandr.
[00:15] <Scunizi> emma.. your right.. many.. 640 of them
[00:15] <binarical-app> duli: not so bad, it could be worse, k so what you did was enter some mumbel jumbel insto the boot loader, now try doing the same thing you did using hd0 instead
[00:15] <ricanelite> it might be normal but i notice some windows are really big and my screen resolution is fine
[00:15] <ricanelite> and also icons as well
[00:15] <tortoise---> unop_: still, why would the repository not resolve?
[00:15] <Scunizi> !netinstall
[00:15] <unop_> Scunizi, i'm british _NOT_ american - http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/spelt?view=uk
[00:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[00:15] <emma> Scunizi, I would like to know how you are supposed to install Ubuntu on this machine. Let me know when you find out.
[00:15] <ricanelite> IndyGunFreak, is there any application out there that captures a webcam?
[00:15] <duli> binarical-app: Hum, ok... I'll try that. Tks for now
[00:16] <tortoise---> unop_: no matter, it works now anyways. thanks! that's weird!
[00:16] <unop_> tortoise---, :)
[00:16] <IndyGunFreak> ricanelite: webcams, are really hit and miss, it all depends on the make/model you have, some work great, a few work ok, a lot of them don't work at all.
[00:16] <IndyGunFreak> !webcam | ricanelite
[00:16] <ubotu> ricanelite: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[00:16] <ALPSINC> hi all, where can i find the source for /bin/login ?
[00:16] <ricanelite> how about cheese?
[00:16] <emma> Scunizi, this one --- http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
[00:17] <elmer> Everybody... I want to dual boot Ubuntu and XP but I don't know if my wifi will work. Will the
[00:17] <elmer> GIGABYTE GN-WP01GS work in Linux?
[00:17] <elmer> sry for the 2 lines
[00:17] <ALPSINC> elmer, ndiswrapper :)
[00:17] <ricanelite> it should be with restricted devices in Ubuntu Gusty
[00:17] <brian_> I have 7.10, and when I go to open one of my files(KDXServer.lexe) from terminal, after I've made it executable, it says "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". Whats wrong? :( I tried installing the build-essential package as was suggested, didn't help
[00:17] <IndyGunFreak> elmer: a lot depends on the chipset of your wireless device, but most of them will work w/ ndiswrapper.
[00:17] <Scunizi> emma, I'm reading this link .. sounds interesting.  http://tinyurl.com/3exghs
[00:17] <IndyGunFreak> !hardware | elmargol look here and see if you're wireless device is known to cause problems
[00:17] <ubotu> elmargol look here and see if you're wireless device is known to cause problems: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[00:17] <elmer> Another challenge: I don't really want to move my PC all around to get to an ethernet cable. Is there a way to do it without having an internet connection?
[00:18] <unop_> Scunizi, funnily enough - "spelled" isn't a word in the oxford dictionary
[00:18] <ricanelite> the only thing that is great about Gusty 7.10 is the restricted devices which helps and make life easy when installing wifi and graphics card
[00:18] <IndyGunFreak> elmer: its a lot tougher.
[00:18] <Scunizi> unop_: :)
[00:18] <binarical-app> elmer: look at this :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189143
[00:18] <elmer> binarical-app, ok
[00:18] <ALPSINC> elmer, on the wiki
[00:19] <ALPSINC> but where is the soucre for ubuntu's /bin/login :|
[00:19] <elmer> ALPSINC, what on the wiki?
[00:19] <elmer> binarical-app, that link has no info in it. Sorry.
[00:19] <ALPSINC> elmer, the way to do ndiswrapper without internet
[00:19] <elmer> O
[00:19] <elmer> thanks
[00:19] <Scunizi> unop_: deskbar's dictionary has it.. might be the differance between British english and American English.
[00:19] <ALPSINC> it was on there, and google also helps :)
[00:20] <unop_> Scunizi, i don't really care about american english to be honest :)
[00:20] <dotech> anyone here using multiple displays know how to spread the task bars across each display so only applications on that display show up in the task bar?
[00:20] <tortoise---> god, thanks folks
[00:20] <unop_> ALPSINC, the actual source code or the package that contains that file?
[00:20] <dotech> sort of like what Ultramon can do in Windows
[00:20] <IndyGunFreak> elmer: this might help..   http://roshan18.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/ubuntu-without-internet-connection-or-full-package-cddvds/
[00:20] <ALPSINC> unop_, the actual source
[00:20] <binarical-app> elmer: there are different methods to get hardware to function in ubuntu, for wifi we have ndiswrapper . it uses the windows drivers and wraps them nicly to run in ubuntu. there is also mad wifi. mad wifi make almost any wifi card run
[00:20] <elmer> IndyGunFreak, so what packages do I add to Ubuntu?
[00:21] <unop_> ALPSINC, apt-get source login
[00:21] <ALPSINC> i'm gonna pimp out mah login make it like the good ol mainframe z/os style
[00:21] <IndyGunFreak> elmer: nevermind, i just realized thats telling you to go to another linux box.
[00:21] <elmer> binarical-app, so should I use mad wifi or ndis?
[00:21] <ALPSINC> unop_, ok, and where can i find the source after i do that?
[00:21] <elmer> I used Xubuntu for a bit, but only with ethernet because I couldn't get wifi to work
[00:21] <elmer> IndyGunFreak, OK, thanks
[00:21] <unop_> ALPSINC, it should download it into the current directory
[00:21] <brian_> When I go to open one of my files(KDXServer.lexe) from terminal, after I've made it executable, it says "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". Whats wrong? :( I tried installing the build-essential package as was suggested, but it didn't help.
[00:21] <ALPSINC> unop_, ok, thanks!
[00:22] <Jester009> I am having issues installing/starting up xubuntu on a compaq presario 1675 that has xp installed on it. The bios miss the cutoff date (1999) and I have tried booting it with options acpi=force acpi=off acpi=old boot but nothing seems to keep it from freezing at "Starting common Unix Printing Cupsd". Anyone know any fixes. I do no have the computer hooked up to a printer
[00:22] <binarical-app> elmer: madwifi must be built, there are very comprehensive how toos on mad wifi. ndiswrapper can be obtained thru apt therefore might be easyer for you to try out
[00:22] <elmer> yes
[00:22] <elmer> definitely
[00:22] <unop_> brian_, try this -- sudo aptitude install build-essential libstdc++5
[00:22] <kunzy> Ok, got another problem.   My computer went to sleep and didnt wake up.  When i rebooted it, it loaded a default GRUB menu i guess.  Because i no longer have XP as a boot option and the modifications i made to the ubuntu boot are gone.  Can anyone please copy and paste their menu.lst for GRUB that uses XP?   And can anyone tell me why it does that?   thanks
[00:23] <brian_> unop_: Ok, one sec.
[00:23] <elmer> I have a bunch  of tech experience, but I am like a duck in a blender when it comes to WiFi on Linux
[00:23] <elmer> binarical-app, so can I somehow get ndis in windows and add it to a 7.10 cd?
[00:23] <IndyGunFreak> !wifi | elmer well start here..
[00:23] <ubotu> elmer well start here..: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:23] <vile_maxim> anyone so happen to know how to get to the root of a Snap Server? Trying to get the passwd shadow and smb.conf
[00:23] <elmer> ubotu pwns at life. Bots FTW!
[00:24] <elmer> Also, should I use 64 or 32 bit
[00:24] <elmer> i only have 2 gb ram
[00:24] <elmer> so I only need 32
[00:24] <elmer> but is 64 bit better?
[00:25] <unop_> elmer, if you are starting out stick with the 32-bit version to save yourself from a few headaches but if you want to utilize the full potential of your hardware, go with the 64-bit version
[00:25] <kunzy> !grub
[00:25] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[00:25] <datachild> Hello fellow ubuntu user
[00:25] <fragged> Mhm, compiz works fine, except alt+F2 and a key I've binded to run a terminal bring up the terminal behind whatever I'm running, and windows that are minimized lag for a few seconds before they draw, even though my system is more than capable of running them
[00:25] <datachild> i have a suggestion to make
[00:25] <elmer> unop_, I am just starting out, so I will use 32
[00:25] <datachild> a very serious one too!
[00:26] <datachild> you should name it "ubuntu - final fail"
[00:26] <fragged> i lold
[00:26] <Starnestommy> !ot
[00:26] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:26] <unop_> fragged, what is the command you have bound there?
[00:26] <elmer> I think I found some help!
[00:26] <elmer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296822
[00:26] <fragged> wait no I didnt, even for a troll attempt that was epic fail
[00:26] <binarical-app> elmer: im afraid that adding it a tough option, it would mean making a apt-on-cd , apt-on-cd acts as repositorys, im afraid tho that you would have to get them from your linux system. another option would be to find a good wiki on the subj. , print it out, get the mad wifi package from sourcforge, save it to your hd , then reboot , mount the windows partiton, copy the file to ubuntu, run it , follo the wiki
[00:26] <Jester009> I am having issues installing/starting up xubuntu on a compaq presario 1675 that has xp installed on it. The bios miss the cutoff date (1999) and I have tried booting it with options acpi=force acpi=off acpi=old boot but nothing seems to keep it from freezing at "Starting common Unix Printing Cupsd". Anyone know any fixes. I do no have the computer hooked up to a printer
[00:26] <kindofabuzz> datachild: how about user -fails
[00:26] <datachild> :(
[00:27] <datachild> shaddap
[00:27] <fragged> unop_, under xfce settings > keyboard configuration I have Terminal bound to alt + a, its really helpful
[00:27] <datachild> i am the leet of leets
[00:27] <datachild> the root of roots
[00:27] <datachild> etc
[00:27] <InGunsWeTrust> This is such a great problem it requires a back story: At my school whenever somebody walks away from their computer without locking it we set their desktop background to something funny. So I used gconf-editor to make my desktop background "mandatory." for some reason when I set that, next time i booted up my background was set to the default background and I can't change it back! How can I fix this?
[00:27] <arrow> what is the quickest way to upgrade from 6.06 to 7.10?
[00:27] <fragged> no, dear datachild, no your not
[00:27] <datachild> arrow, installing windows
[00:27] <datachild> :)
[00:27] <elmer> binarical-app, well that sucks
[00:27] <datachild> byes!
[00:27] <brian_> unop_: Your a life saver :D Thanks, works great :) Just curious, but why does it work on one computer, but not the other? Used the same CD to install both, both have all the latest updates, and I haven't downloaded installed anything EXCEPT for this program that I'm trying to get working(Which now does :D)
[00:27] <elmer> I guess I might just have to move my PC after all
[00:27] <elmer> that would suck royally
[00:27] <IndyGunFreak> InGunsWeTrust: kinda backfired..lol
[00:27] <brian_> !spam | datachild
[00:27] <ubotu> datachild: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !PM, !English - And most importantly, use common sense...
[00:28] <brian_> Always too slow...
[00:28] <enrique> hey, i was wondering if someone could help me with something, i was having problems with wireless connection on an acer with atheros 2413 i have downloaded and installed acer_acpi but i still show no wireless on the network manager, any suggestions?
[00:28] <binarical-app> elmer: your windows partiton will mount per default, only fitting the wiki to you may be harder
[00:28] <InGunsWeTrust> IndyGunFreak: well they can't change it! haha But the ugly brown default wallpaper doesnt match my blue theme!
[00:28] <fragged> brian_, they, alike addicts, have to help themselves first.
[00:28] <elmer> I have 2 partitions already
[00:28] <unop_> brian_, it's hard to say, i can only assume that apt didnt maintain the proper list of packages or failed to install build-essential properly
[00:28] <elmer> 1 just for windows
[00:28] <elmer> 1 for data
[00:28] <mariobro> when I try to run Envy, I get the message "Error:  Dependency is not satisfiable: debhelper"  What does this mean?
[00:28] <binarical-app> elmer: so no ubuntu yet?
[00:29] <elmer> not yet
[00:29] <elmer> but I have an OLD cd
[00:29] <pschorf2> mariobro: have you tried to apt-get debhelper?
[00:29] <elmer> like 6.06
[00:29] <elmer> or 5.10
[00:29] <mariobro> not yet...
[00:29] <Jester009> is a compaq presario 1675 too old for xubuntu?
[00:29] <elmer> I don't remember
[00:29] <Starnestommy> mariobro: it means that you shouldn't run Envy
[00:29] <reya276> are the special effects working too
[00:29] <pschorf2> mariobro: run sudo apt-get install debhelper
[00:29] <Twilt> Hello
[00:30] <brian_> unop_: Ah, yeh, thats probably it... Took me two trys to install it, first one froze up. The second time probably just messed up too. Is there some easy command that installs everything from the CD that was SUPPOSED to be installed? Not that it matters now, but, just incase :)
[00:30] <InGunsWeTrust> does anybody know how to make a setting not mandatory anymore in gconf-editor?
[00:30] <Mindloop> Helllo
[00:30] <FailureDude> dux
[00:30] <binarical-app> get a new cd, if you wait for a week or so hardy will be out and you can try that. be sure to update your system right after the installation...... that may figure the problem for you right away
[00:30] <ALPSINC> what package is agetty in?
[00:30] <seespotrun> Is ubuntu made to be so slow and bloated?
[00:30] <elmer> I remember when I installed Xubuntu on an old 700 MHz, it had to be connected via ethernet
[00:30] <reya276> does hardy support hotplug usb devices suach as tablets and external hard drives
[00:30] <mariobro> $ sudo apt-get install debhelper
[00:30] <mariobro> Reading package lists... Done
[00:30] <mariobro> Building dependency tree
[00:30] <mariobro> Reading state information... Done
[00:30] <mariobro> Package debhelper is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[00:30] <FloodBot2> mariobro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:30] <mariobro> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[00:30] <elmer> do I truly have to move my PC to install Ubuntu and get my wifi working?
[00:30] <binarical-app> seespotrun: you may be bloating it with a gui ;D
[00:31] <unop_> brian_, errm, yes, it might take much longer than the CD install but -  sudo apt-get install --reinstall $(dpkg -l | cut -c 3-30)
[00:31] <binarical-app> elmer: can you lan boot?
[00:31] <tehrei> why is ubuntu so slow
[00:31] <tehrei> how do i fix it?
[00:31] <elmer> binarical-app, I don't entirely understand what you mean
[00:31] <Mindloop> But see, the typical user lacks the ability to change GUI's. it's not really worht it to them, I can't for the life of me understand why Gnome is so process itnensive
[00:31] <reya276> seespotrun: bloated, maybe you have an ancient pc, because ubuntu is extremely fast
[00:31] <Twilt> When Ubuntu 8.04 is released will it contain wubi in it or do I go to wubi's website and will wubi inclue Ubuntu?  I wish to have both wubi, and Ubuntu stable (not beta) when 8.04 is released.
[00:31] <seespotrun> i dunno tehrei i have the same problem
[00:31] <brian_> unop_: So that installs everything that SHOULD be on a normal install? And would it mess anything up? >.>
[00:31] <reya276> when on 512mb, try turning the special effects off
[00:31] <seespotrun> i have xfce installed but its taking forever just to load
[00:31] <ALPSINC> anyone?
[00:32] <enrique> hey, i was wondering if someone could help me with something, i was having problems with wireless connection on an acer with atheros 2413 i have downloaded and installed acer_acpi but i still show no wireless on the network manager, any suggestions?
[00:32] <Twilt> gtg
[00:32] <Starnestommy> tehrei: do you have compiz running?
[00:32] <FailureDude> seespotrun try installing it on your ps triple
[00:32] <tehrei> what?
[00:32] <mariobro> so what do I do if I can't get debhelper?
[00:32] <Taza> seespotrun: Have you tried optimizing the boot time with grub options?
[00:32] <FailureDude> might be faster
[00:32] <Starnestommy> tehrei: have you enabled visual effects?
[00:32] <FailureDude> its got more cores
[00:32] <unop_> brian_, well to be strict, that reinstalls all packages that are currently installed so it might miss out packages that failed to install in the first place.. and no it doesnt mess anything up
[00:32] <tehrei> i think so
[00:32] <elmer> Could this work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296822 ?
[00:32] <Jester009> I am having issues installing/starting up xubuntu on a compaq presario 1675 that has xp installed on it. The bios miss the cutoff date (1999) and I have tried booting it with options acpi=force acpi=off acpi=old boot but nothing seems to keep it from freezing at "Starting common Unix Printing Cupsd". Anyone know any fixes. I do no have the computer hooked up to a printer
[00:32] <elmer> if I DL the file in windows?
[00:32] <Mindloop> my experience is that I've turned everything off, compiz, the effects, no desktop wallpaper, checked if my hdd's are outputting proper speeds
[00:32] <brian_> unop_: Ah, perfect! :D Thanks.
[00:32] <mannex> enrique, I am a complete noob.... but did you blacklist your previous drivers?
[00:32] <Starnestommy> tehrei: disable the visual effects and it should run faster
[00:32] <ccvp> wtf, I have 1 page impression today, 1 click, Page CTR of 100.00%, $1,190.00 page ecpm, so i earned $1.19, lol, weird
[00:32] <tehrei> ok
[00:33] <tehrei> thx lo
[00:33] <tehrei> lol
[00:33] <binarical-app> elmer: well in bios there is an option to boot from your network, if you have a system that will boot yours for you, id give it a shot. you know there are even pc shops who know alot about booting things and maybe for a small fee would be able to get your system in tip top condiditon for you
[00:33] <seyacat> hu ubuntuadicts
[00:33] <enrique> i have no idea what it means to blacklist previous drivers
[00:33] <enrique> i am complete noob as well
[00:33] <kunzy> Does anyone know what the XP part of the GRUB boot loader has to look like?
[00:33] <tortoise---> agh
[00:33] <seespotrun> hmmm I've optimized the bootloader
[00:33] <elmer> binarical-app, do you think I could use this guide (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296822) if I download the file in Windows?
[00:33] <Survivorman> !xubuntu | Jester009
[00:33] <ubotu> Jester009: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[00:33] <seespotrun> but it seems to still be quite slow
[00:34] <ccvp> how is that
[00:34] <ccvp> I made $1.19 off one click today
[00:34] <ccvp> via adsense, wtf
[00:34] <enrique> all i know is windows lol
[00:34] <seyacat> please help me, where can i find start up service script?? because i dont see dbus and others launch at boot
[00:34] <seespotrun> I have windows dual-booted via grub and ubuntu seems even slower than that
[00:34] <elmer> binarical-app, my BIOS only has HDD, CD, and Floppy boot options
[00:34] <tortoise---> is there any way to change the webmin password, or reset it when logged into ssh as root? i think the login name has some weird characters in it
[00:34] <elmer> so no LAN boot for me
[00:34] <elmer> oh, and USB
[00:34] <tehrei> yeah, windows seems to run faster on my e-machine
[00:34] <Starnestommy> seyacat: /etc/init.d
[00:35] <Mindloop> windows does run faster than ubuntu, even with all of windows effects on
[00:35] <seespotrun> and surprisingly crashes a lot more
[00:35] <seyacat> init.d its a directory?
[00:35] <Starnestommy> seyacat: yes
[00:35] <Mindloop> yeah, seespot, i know.
[00:35] <binarical-app> elmer: take a look at this, ill be back with more
[00:35] <tehrei> same seespot
[00:35] <elmer> btw, thanks for the help, binarical-app
[00:35] <binarical-app> http://www.stchman.com/ath_drv.html
[00:35] <binarical-app> np dude
[00:35] <Mindloop> well, that's a good thing. some people here who agree with me
[00:35] <pschorf2> mariobro: try running sudo apt-get update
[00:35] <mannex> enrique, take a look at this.. i solved my wifi problems with it this morning https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#autostart
[00:35] <elmer> I don't think the GP-whatever is Atheros
[00:36] <brian_> unop_: Erm, that command doesnt work >.< Says "Couldn't find package reinstall"
[00:36] <Mindloop> i was desperate for a free operating system, ubuntu didn't seem to do it. Then I switched to slackware
[00:36] <Mindloop> unbuntu crashed more than my windows did
[00:36] <seespotrun> is slackware a better choice?
[00:36] <elmer> binarical-app, I do not believe my WiFi card is of an Atheros chipset
[00:36] <binarical-app> elmer: the wiki you sent me was for something like ndiswrapper using a linksys chipset
[00:36] <tehrei> can i run iTunes on linux?
[00:36] <Taza> Mindloop: Well, what is your hardware like?
[00:36] <Mindloop> and in slackware, i was able to run compiz, all of the effects, all of that. without speed loss
[00:36] <seespotrun> because i think ubuntu's simply too unstable to be of any use as a replacement
[00:36] <mannex> Slackware is great
[00:36] <Starnestommy> !ot
[00:36] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:36] <jeff__is_cool> Mindloop: how did ubuntu "crash"?
[00:36] <elmer> binarical-app, oh. wait, the forum link?
[00:36] <seyacat> i see there is all the scripts but how can i choose i want to run
[00:36] <enrique> ok thanks mannex i will check it out
[00:36] <unop_> brian_, --reinstall not reinstall :)
[00:37] <Taza> tehrei: At least using wine it should
[00:37] <Mindloop> I've got a amd athlon 65 3300+, 2 gigs of ram and a 8600gt. Ubuntu was complete shit
[00:37] <seespotrun> It's just too friggin UNSTABLE.
[00:37] <binarical-app> elmer :http://madwifi.org/ this is precisly what your looking for, dont worry aobut the driver , worry about the application
[00:37] <symptom> tehrei: use rhythmbox or exaile or gtkpod
[00:37] <tehrei> ok
[00:37] <brian_> unop: "Couldn't find package sired"
[00:37] <Taza> And I take you're using "tainted" kernel drivers?
[00:37] <Mindloop> Ubuntu is a tainted debian kernel
[00:37] <ALPSINC> unop_, do you know how to get the source to getty?
[00:37] <Taza> symptom: Well, if you don't mind dragging a lot of KDE libs AmaroK is a superior choice
[00:38] <binarical-app> Mindloop: you should try and compile your own kernel ;P
[00:38] <elmer> BTW, binarical-app, I checked and my Gigabyte WiFi card is RT61 chipset. The same as in that forum link.
[00:38] <Mindloop> Gentoo, i'd try it if I had the patience
[00:38] <seespotrun> mindloop: maybe it'll work better than ubuntu
[00:38] <icesword> i am using debian sid .latest one
[00:38] <Mindloop> probably
[00:38] <seespotrun> mindloop: who knows what the people who compiled ubuntu put in it
[00:38] <unop_> ALPSINC, getty is part of util-linux as per dpkg -S $(which getty) .. so get the source of util-linux,  apt-get source util-linux
[00:38] <binarical-app> elmer: can you please talk in the channel, so that everyone can participate and learn as well as help
[00:39] <Jester009> Doesnt anyone know how to get past the hangup at Starting Common Unix Printing system cupsd while starting up ubuntu from the cd?
[00:39] <_Silhouette_> hello, I have a question about installing ubuntu
[00:39] <Mindloop> spot: no idea, probably horrible horrible things
[00:39] <symptom> Taza: never used amarok what makes it superior?
[00:39] <ALPSINC> unop_, ahhh, thanks! i'll keep that command in mind then
[00:39] <Taza> symptom: Well, pretty much everything. Better UI, better sound system support, more configurable.
[00:39] <pschorf2> _Silhouette_: what is it?
[00:39] <Taza> It's the best of the unix music players.
[00:39] <Mindloop> amarok is a hog though =/
[00:40] <seespotrun> mindloop: I spent days of my time trying to configure ubuntu to work... and all I get is a buggy, slow piece that hardly functions as an operating system
[00:40] <binarical-app> elmer i want you to download the mad wifi package from the mad wifi site, in the mean time ill find you a simple how to install okay?
[00:40] <Taza> Exaile stinks, because it has a fixed 800x600 system
[00:40] <bulio> markjames@MServ:~$ sudo cp /mnt/storage/Apps,Games,Movies/ /home/Stuff/
[00:40] <bulio> cp: omitting directory `/mnt/storage/Apps,Games,Movies/'
[00:40] <_Silhouette_> Is there a way I can install linux without a physical CD? I can run the iso from a virtual drive but I don't have a CD on hand that's big enough
[00:40] <bulio> why wouldnt that CP?
[00:40] <elmer> binarical-app, I am talking in the channel
[00:40] <Mindloop> seespotrun: ubuntu, what do you configure? sadly, not much. hell, i hated how i had to actually trick it into getting me root acess
[00:40] <elmer> at least I think I am
[00:40] <bulio> it keeps omitting the dir
[00:40] <psilikon> has there been a fix for the lack of splash screen in the amd64 version?
[00:40] <Mindloop> silhouette: entwork install
[00:40] <Mindloop> network*
[00:40]  * elmer is downloading the mad wifi package
[00:40] <bulio> anyone?
[00:40] <LjL> is there an expedient way to know if a given package is installed in ubuntu by default?
[00:40] <_Silhouette_> How do I do that? I've never installed an OS before.
[00:41] <Taza> Mindloop: The root trick is there because of newbie users who don't know half enough about security
[00:41] <Starnestommy> bulio: add the -R switch
[00:41] <_Silhouette_> this is my first time
[00:41]  * binarical-app thinks elmer rocks !!!!
[00:41] <bulio> ahh ok thanks Starnestommy
[00:41] <pschorf2> goodbye, all
[00:41] <seyacat> what is the mainscript in init.d?
[00:41] <icesword> _Silhouette_, next,next,next,finish,reboot,okay
[00:41] <Lo_Pan> lol sendq
[00:41] <Survivorman> elmer, including the name of the person you're addressing in the lines you type will make it easier for them to know you're speaking to them :)
[00:41] <bulio> also, can anyone point me to a guide on how to configure postfix + a webmail client?
[00:41] <binarical-app> atheros chip sets are these new razzmatazzy thingys for macs
[00:41] <_Silhouette_> icesword, where is that?
[00:42] <elmer> Survivorman, thanks
[00:42] <icesword> _Silhouette_, plz be more specific
[00:42] <bulio> I want to use my DYNDNS IP to make a postix server that I can access via a webmail
[00:42] <Jester009> can anyone help me with my hang up problem starting ubuntu from the cd?
[00:42] <ibou> how to reboot jackd deamon in console ?
[00:42] <elmer> MadWifi download done!
[00:42] <seespotrun> hn
[00:42] <_Silhouette_> so far I've only seen the browser where it asks me if I want to install firefox, etc.
[00:42] <Survivorman> elmer, no problem. most of the time your name being spoken sends some sort of visual cue that you have been messaged directly.
[00:43] <bulio> anyone?
[00:43] <elmer> Survivorman, I know that much. I am a regular on a few more obscure IRC channels.
[00:43] <unop_> bulio, not to offend you, but google can answer questions like that much faster and better than us (because we would have to go to goole to answer your question anyway)
[00:43] <Scunizi> elmer.. just guessing but it might be something like.. sudo /etc/init.d/jackd restart
[00:43] <SundanceAU> a
[00:43] <binarical-app> Jester009: change your bios setting to boot from cdrom, turn off your hd , save , reboot
[00:44] <elmer> Scunizi, tbh, I don't know what you are talking about
[00:44] <Jester009> binarical-app: thanks ill try that
[00:44] <Scunizi> elmer, sorry wrong nick..
[00:44] <_Silhouette_> is there some sort of guide for what I need? The one the browser gave me just seems to be a typical install, which I can't do right now
[00:44] <elmer> OK, thanks, Scunizi
[00:44] <Jester009> binarical-app: my boot settings are already like that
[00:44] <bulio> unop_: I did google, didnt find anything relelvant
[00:44] <bulio> *relevant
[00:45] <binarical-app> builo :http://www.firstpr.com.au/web-mail/RH71-Postfix-Courier-Maildrop-IMAP/
[00:45] <elmer> binarical-app, I got the RT61 info from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsGigabyteTechnology
[00:45] <Scunizi> ibou: sudo /etc/init.d/jackd restart maybe.... worth trying
[00:45] <patrick_> in "ring switcher" for compiz-fusion...what does " <super>tab" mean??
[00:45] <Starnestommy> patrick_: win key+tab
[00:45] <patrick_> starnestrommy thanks
[00:46] <Jester009> binarical-app: i have no problem booting from the disk my problem is that while starting up ubuntu is hangs at Starting Common Unix Printing System cupsd
[00:46] <binarical-app> elmer: when you boot into ubuntu, please find the package in the windows system then open it with the package manager. you may need to build from source, do you command line interface experiance?
[00:46] <elmer> binarical-app, I have a little
[00:46] <_Silhouette_> icesword? anyone?
[00:47] <elmer> binarical-app, and I have a bit of a guide
[00:47] <binarical-app> elmer:
[00:47] <binarical-app> elmer: how much of a guide is a little
[00:47] <binarical-app> ;P
[00:47] <hatter> i have a printer on the network that i can get to from  -> administration -> printers after pressing the goto server button, but how do i then have this printer turn up so i can print from openoffice ?
[00:47] <icesword> _Silhouette_, what is excactly your problem is
[00:48] <binarical-app> Jester009: is it possible you have a corrupted disk ? , can you check the disk for defaults on live boot please
[00:48] <spiniker> hello..help on how to install tar.bz and tar.bz2 icon theme..
[00:48] <_Silhouette_> icesword: I need to know if it's possible to install Linux without a physical CD (i.e. running the iso from a virtual drive) and if so, how do I do it (instructions/guide)?
[00:48] <icesword> _Silhouette_, you said you want to install ubuntu
[00:48] <_Silhouette_> yess
[00:48] <Jester009> binarical-app: i have checked the disk and it is ok. I have tried boot options acpi=force acpi=off and acpi=oldboot and nothing seems to work
[00:49] <icesword> _Silhouette_, sure,you can
[00:49] <icesword> !hdinstall
[00:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdinstall - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:49] <binarical-app> elmer: most of the guides rely on an active internet connection, building from source may need a different guide.
[00:49] <elmer> binarical-app, that forum link is my guide
[00:49] <elmer> ha
[00:50] <elmer> it doesn't seem to need internet
[00:50] <icesword> !install | _Silhouette_
[00:50] <ubotu> _Silhouette_: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[00:50] <zcat[1]> You could get the hardy ISO and mount it (poweriso or something, I can't recall.. there are a few programs that do this) then install with wubi
[00:50] <binarical-app>  Jester009: ca you tell us how your system ran before, also what caused the system to hang, also what version cd your running right now, and what dist you were using till now
[00:50] <amenado> hatter add the subject printer via CUPS
[00:50] <icesword> _Silhouette_, you see,that one,the last one
[00:50] <elmer> binarical-app, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296822
[00:50] <elmer> that is my guide
[00:51] <_Silhouette_> Thanks...I will read it
[00:51] <jerbear> how do you open the preferred terminal from the command line? similar to xdg-open
[00:51] <zcat[1]> I'll read it too :)
[00:51] <patrick_> im running hardy heron beta..is there a dock in the repositories that i can use?
[00:51] <hatter> amenado, i can connect to the printer which is using cups on the other server,  are saying i need to use cups on the machine i want to print from ?
[00:51] <alan_m> !hardy | patrick_
[00:51] <ubotu> patrick_: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[00:51] <ibou> Scunizi: thanks
[00:51] <hatter> amenado, i can print a test page from here
[00:51] <patrick_> sorry mate
[00:51] <amenado> hatter yes or if you know how lpd works, you can use that too
[00:51] <elmer> binarical-app, as long as I download the file in advance I think that forum post will work
[00:51] <Jester009> binarical-app: the system ran fine under windows xp. It still has the OS installed. I am using ubuntu-7.10-desktop i-386
[00:52] <Siph0n> hey... whats an easy program to combine a video w/ audio with other audio video sources?
[00:53] <zcat[1]> Siph0n: kino is pretty easy
[00:53] <binarical-app> elmer: okay give it a shot, dont worry i dont think you can brek much, at worst it wont install. but have fun and be saf, if you have a question ask the man like: man man or man help or man wifi. find specific instances of what you need to know read read read
[00:53] <icesword> don't use wubi,afraid of data loss,os failure,try virtual machine ,then
[00:53] <elmer> binarical-app, I am going to try it, but first I have to install Ubuntu
[00:54] <alan_m> in 18 days we can talk about hardy in here, not before then though, or if you wish to discuss it now, #ubuntu+1 guys, just a general blurt out, for nobody specific.
[00:54]  * binarical-app shakes his head and prays a silent prayer
[00:54] <elmer> binarical-app, but I think I have to have a connection to even install it. Or at least I had to in Xubunty Text Installer.
[00:55] <zcat[1]> another 108M of updates, I only updated last night!!
[00:55] <Pelo> zcat[1], what app ?
[00:55] <alan_m> zcat[1], udates for what?
[00:55] <binarical-app> Jester009: okay so you need to resore grub as i see, try turning your hds back on, and change their priority like: cd then hd okay?
[00:55] <alan_m> *updates
[00:55] <zcat[1]> Pelo: hardy ...
[00:56] <hanophix33> i am trying to watch mlb.tv on firefox but since I am running Linux, firefox is telling their server that im not running windows.  I can get a menu on Wine version of Firefox that allows me to view a stream that is doesn't require Silverlight, in LINUX i cannot get that screen
[00:56] <zcat[1]> running it on three machines here, it's pretty good so far but by gum there are a lot of updates every day
[00:56] <Pelo> zcat[1], you have to expect that,   beta get updates to fix every single bug they can resolve before it is officialy out
[00:56] <Jester009> binarical-app: that it how it is set right now.
[00:56] <ShiFTKey> I know this is an ubuntu channel, but what do you guys think of fedora?
[00:56] <seyacat> how can i switch tty with command line
[00:56] <mark[oz]> ShiFTKey,  balls
[00:56] <alan_m> zcat[1], you havent been keeping up with the updates then or has it just been a few days since you installed it?
[00:56] <Pelo> ShiFTKey, we don't think about it
[00:56] <ShiFTKey> ctrl-alt Fx
[00:56] <ShiFTKey> where f = 1 - 6
[00:56] <mark[oz]> ShiFTKey, they're package management system is about as mature as a child
[00:56] <binarical-app> elmer: your going to be in trouble without a cable connection. but go ahead and give the system an install, dhcp can configure at a later time
[00:56] <ShiFTKey> I mean x
[00:56] <zcat[1]> no, 108M of updates since last night!
[00:56] <seyacat> and whith command line
[00:57] <ShiFTKey> yes, I hate their package management
[00:57] <ShiFTKey> apt is so much better
[00:57] <erle-> is there a comfortable way to switch between propietary flash player and another plugin (gnash, swfdec)?
[00:57] <hanophix33> Anyone know how to watch mlb.tv on Linux?
[00:57] <alan_m> zcat[1], i didnt have that many since last night, like 108
[00:57] <amenado> seyacat man switchto
[00:57] <Survivorman> Jester009, I googled your problem and read about 6 posts with a few people with the same issue. In the end, they used the alternate cd.
[00:57] <seyacat> ty
[00:57] <Pelo> zcat[1], I heard you correctly , but like I said , betas get lots of updates to finish fixing the bugs before release
[00:57] <alan_m> zcat[1], i had like maybe 4 :)
[00:57] <Survivorman> *6 forums
[00:57] <elmer> binarical-app, I don't actually use DHCP in windows. I have OpenDNS and a static IP set up. Would it be hard to tell ubuntu to do the same?
[00:57] <jpw27_> whenever i wake my box up from sleeping/suspending, it won't except my password.  i can hit switch user, and log in fine, and my applications are still up, but whenever it's waking up it won't take my password.  is this known at all.....
[00:58] <zcat[1]> nz repos sometimes get a bit behind.. might be two days of updates backed up
[00:58] <binarical-app> Jester009: so you cant boot anything ? how about windows.
[00:58] <jpw27_> *accept
[00:58] <Jester009> survivorman: would the alternate cd be the server version?
[00:58] <amenado> elmer-> you use static ip address  on an ubuntu
[00:58] <Siph0n> zcat[1], Kino cant open avi files??? :)
[00:58] <elmer> amenado, I am sorry but I do not understand your comment
[00:58] <Survivorman> binarical-app, I think he has an issue where cups hangs, just in the live cd, am I right Jester009 ?
[00:58] <charles|64> ok, is there a way to generate an email certificate?
[00:59] <Jester009> SurvivorMan: yes that is right.
[00:59]  * Pelo laughs at the notion of jpw27_ 's computer being startled by an unexpected password
[00:59] <hanophix33> anyone use MLB.tv?
[00:59] <amenado> elmer which part you dont understand? using a static ip address?
[00:59] <Survivorman> Jester009, the alternate is an installation only cd, no live cd.
[00:59] <zcat[1]> Siph0n: it converts them on the fly, you might need to install ffmpeg tho (it should be a dependancy)
[00:59] <wobbiebobbie> has any body use ubuntu studio
[00:59] <binarical-app> thanks man
[00:59] <alan_m> wobbiebobbie, yes
[00:59] <Jester009> Survivorman: is the download available on the same page as the live cd iso?
[00:59] <elmer> amenado, the English doesn't make sense. Sorry. Is there just like a box I put in my DNS and IP?
[00:59] <binarical-app> elmer: using static ip is a bit expensive. other wise i think its great
[00:59] <Survivorman> Jester009, yes. Under the download link, there should be a checkbox for the alternate cd.
[01:00] <jpw27_> Pelo: i do find it a little humorous/odd, but it doesn't make it any less annoying :)
[01:00] <zcat[1]> elmer: yes, during the install choose 'manual' network setup instead of automatic
[01:00] <elmer> binarical-app, expensive? I mean static internal IP, not external
[01:00] <wobbiebobbie> If I open snap manger and down load it will it integrate with ubuntu
[01:00] <Jester009> SurvivorMan,binarical-app: thanks for both your help ill try the alternate cd *crosses fingers*
[01:00] <elmer> zcat[1], thanks
[01:00] <binarical-app> it WILL work
[01:00] <Survivorman> Jester009, good luck :)
[01:00] <Pelo> jpw27_, suspend/hibernate is touchy in linux at the best of times but I'm guessing this particular issue is probably covered in the forum , do a search   www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:01] <hanophix33> MLB.tv anyone?>
[01:01] <zcat[1]> elmer: or you can just change it after the install, network manager on the taskbar, change it from dhcp to static
[01:01] <wobbiebobbie>  ubuntu studio wont mess up any thing
[01:01] <jpw27_> thanks Pelo, i'm off to the forums then
[01:01] <alan_m> hibernate/suspend hardly works on ANY computer, ive heard nothing but nightmare stories jpw27_ :/
[01:01] <owen1> i have a script that i want to run from F2 without the path. any ideas?
[01:01] <elmer> zcat[1], thanks, but I probably will just set it during install
[01:01] <alan_m> jpw27_, even for myself..i cant get it working
[01:01] <charles|64> anyone?
[01:02] <jpw27_> alan_m, i use to have it working fine, then i changed HDD's and it doesn't like it upon waking up
[01:02] <quittt> what is the name of the new Ubuntu?
[01:02] <alan_m> charles|64 ask your question again, we didnt see it.
[01:02] <Pelo> owen1, menu > system > prefs > keybaord shortucts
[01:02] <alan_m> quittt, hardy
[01:02] <zcat[1]> !hardy | quittt
[01:02] <ubotu> quittt: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[01:02] <N3WFI3> yup
[01:02] <binarical-app> elmer: unless you have asked your isp for a static ip , you will still have a dhcp ip. what you can do is set your router manually so that inside of the network ips are configured to the same location all the time
[01:02] <zcat[1]> 'hardly hereyet'
[01:02] <alan_m> "hardy herron" zcat[1] :)
[01:03] <charles|64> ok, is there a way to generate an email certificate?
[01:03] <alan_m> but i see your pun in it :D
[01:03] <owen1> Pelo: ok. i meant alt+F2....
[01:03] <elmer> binarical-app, yeah, I have my Router (WRT54G) set up to give my PC a specific IP
[01:03] <SpookyET> Finally, I have a backup. duplicity, rdiff-backup, flexbackup, and all the other stuff failed. dar worked.
[01:03] <charles|64> alan_m: , is there a way to generate an email certificate?
[01:03] <owen1> Pelo: or katapult.
[01:03] <N3WFI3> who needs hardy when you have gutsy gibbon :)
[01:03] <Pelo> owen1,  you need to add the location or your script ot the path file , hold on
[01:03] <_Silhouette_> icesword
[01:03] <icesword> ?
[01:03] <zcat[1]> hardy is going to be way cooler than gutsy..
[01:03] <_Silhouette_> I need to download linux onto my backup drive, not C:\
[01:04] <hanophix33> does anyone use MLB.tv?
[01:04] <Pelo> owen1, check in this link , under  scriptiing,   forth section I think    cmdshell
[01:04] <alan_m> n3wFI3, people who want long term support, thats who N3WFI3
[01:04] <Pelo> owen1, check in this link , under  scriptiing,   forth section I think    http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[01:04] <N3WFI3> im really impressed with gutsy
[01:04] <_Silhouette_> will it let me choose where it installs?
[01:04] <binarical-app> elmer: i wont be able to help you from outside unless the system is already installed, in which case i dont think youd need my help any more
[01:04] <Pelo> hanophix33, we may not use it but if you state the exact nature of the problem we might still be able to help
[01:04] <zcat[1]> I wasn't.. gutsy was the buggiest ubuntu of about the last four versions.. imho anyhow.
[01:05] <elmer> binarical-app, I am fine installing it, I just need help to get wifi
[01:05] <alan_m> zcat[1], agreed totally here
[01:05] <elmer> binarical-app, I am going to try the forum guide
[01:05] <owen1> Pelo: cool. thanks
[01:05] <icesword> _Silhouette_, you need at least two blank partition first
[01:05] <elmer> binarical-app, if the forum doesn't work, I will boot back into windows and ask for help
[01:05] <eric_> suck it lames
[01:05] <Pelo> eric_ ???
[01:05] <binarical-app> elmer: do you have ethernet connections to your router?
[01:05] <Survivorman> !language eric_
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language eric_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <alan_m> !language | eric_
[01:06] <ubotu> eric_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[01:06] <_Silhouette_> icesword: what is that/how do I do it?
[01:06] <elmer> binarical-app, I do have 4, but only one PC is actually close enoguh for an ethernet cable
[01:06] <eric_> what kind of chat is this exactly?
[01:06] <eric_> im using linux and it blows
[01:06] <hanophix33> MLB.tv has switched over to silverlight, they offer a old view which works in mplayer.  I cannot get the option to view in the old media player because Firefox tells their server im not on Windows
[01:06] <_Silhouette_> i also don't get the whole hd0, hd1, etc. thing
[01:06] <icesword> _Silhouette_, you delete some partition,then it is blank
[01:06] <charles|64> anyone?
[01:06] <Pelo> eric_, support channel for ubuntu ,  what is your issue ?
[01:07] <binarical-app> elmer: id do that if i had a choice, its the best option
[01:07] <Mc_G0d> Hi
[01:07] <eric_> im having trouble downloading programs
[01:07] <Pelo> charles|64,  you re not being ignored, just repeat your question if no one answers
[01:07] <eric_> i try to download kazaa and it wont open
[01:07] <icesword> lol
[01:07] <elmer> binarical-app, if I did that, I would have to either get a REALLY long ethernet cable or move my PC, neither of which I want to do
[01:07] <Mc_G0d> Anyone got some tips on how to get WPA2 to work?
[01:07] <_Silhouette_> icesword: I've never done anything with partitions
[01:08] <Mc_G0d> I got the actual wireless nic working finally
[01:08] <alan_m> eric_, this isnt windows, its totally different, to open things is much different in ubuntu and linux than in windows.
[01:08] <Pelo> eric_, you can'T install windows programs on linux,  we recommend you check in the add/remove applet in the application menu
[01:08] <Redeye2> eric_ how are you trying to download them?
[01:08] <binarical-app> elmer: it would be easyest if you booted into ubuntu and came here , we can help you get it up to any standard you want
[01:08] <N3WFI3> kazaa is old as hell and crap
[01:08] <sheep> wine can run some programs
[01:08] <N3WFI3> use torrents
[01:08] <sheep> er, som windows programs
[01:08] <eric_> i just go to kazaa and click on download
[01:08] <icesword> _Silhouette_, if you are so afraid ,maybe you could try virtual machine.how many mem you have
[01:08] <eric_> and linux wont work with it
[01:08] <binarical-app> try azerus
[01:08] <psmith> Holly crap thats is a sugnificant number of bits,bytes and giga bits .etc
[01:08] <elmer> binarical-app, I know, I know. If I can't get wifi to work, I will end up hooking ethernet in.
[01:08] <charles|64> Pelo: i dont want to nag lol but ok
[01:08] <duli> binarical-app: just solved the broken winodws boot sector with testdisk (backup bs function). Thanks
[01:08] <silas428> eric_: try limewire
[01:09] <Survivorman> eric_, or frostwire
[01:09] <Pelo> eric_, go to www.frostwire.com and et that
[01:09] <eric_> limewire works with linux?
[01:09] <Redeye2> yes it does
[01:09] <silas428> eric_: frostwire, forgot about that one
[01:09] <Pelo> eric_, get frostwire
[01:09] <seyacat> how can i change the default runlevel??
[01:09] <eric_> limewire or frostwire?
[01:09] <Pelo> charles just ask
[01:09] <charles|64> ok, is there a way to generate an email certificate?
[01:09] <silas428> eric_: frostwire is better imo
[01:09] <N3WFI3> either one should be ok
[01:09] <hanophix33> what is a good media player for WINE that works in firefox wine
[01:09] <Survivorman> eric_, frostwire.com
[01:09] <Pelo> eric_,  frostwire = limewire - spyware
[01:09] <_Silhouette_> icesword: I am trying to install linux on my external HD and then use it for my old computer
[01:09] <binarical-app> elmer: okay tell us how it goes man, see oyu on the other side
[01:09] <_Silhouette_> since the old one died.
[01:09] <alan_m> you guys realize were about to slip into off topic territory :/
[01:09] <eric_> its a free computer so what can i do?
[01:09] <_Silhouette_> (HD)
[01:09] <ccvp> what is the difference between a "regular language" pack, or a UTF-8 one.  I installed a language choser module for a website, but the module now needs either a regular language pack, or same kind, but UTF-8?  whats the difference, and potential impact on users?
[01:09] <eric_> why does anyone want linux?
[01:10] <N3WFI3> it owns
[01:10] <amenado> it cost less
[01:10] <alan_m> eric_, because its more secure than windows.
[01:10] <eric_> secure?
[01:10] <Survivorman> eric_, because I like penguins
[01:10] <Redeye2> Alan_m disagree...
[01:10] <alan_m> eric_, because it cost less.....and i love penguins :D
[01:10] <elmer> binarical-app, OK, thanks. THe Ubuntu CD download is going to take like 7 hrs, though.
[01:10] <eric_> ohh
[01:10] <Redeye2> Agree with that..
[01:10] <icesword> lol
[01:10] <eric_> i like unicorns myself
[01:10] <psmith> elmer: Have you considered testing you hardware with an os such as FreeBSD which I know for a fact will support a Linksys wmp54g wireless pci adapter based on the realtek rt61v4.1 chipset
[01:10] <Pelo> eric_, less bugs,  less virus , free , free apps,  fully customisable
[01:10] <owen1> Pelo: i could't find it. can i drop my script in bin?
[01:10] <silas428> eric_: www.fsf.org
[01:10] <binarical-app> its fucking the best, you can do whatever you want with it and it rock my world and many others worlds too, it gives us meaning and a reason to use our computers.
[01:10] <N3WFI3> i like the rendering better
[01:10] <Pelo> owen1, sure
[01:10] <Survivorman> eric_, and a great online community for support
[01:11] <alan_m> !language | binarical-app
[01:11] <ubotu> binarical-app: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[01:11] <eric_> i just have to get used to it
[01:11] <hanophix33> WMP doesnt work in WINE for me?
[01:11] <eric_> it might be better for all i know
[01:11] <alan_m> eric_, exactly :D
[01:11] <Pelo> binarical-app, keep it clean please
[01:11] <icesword> alan_m, lol
[01:11] <elmer> psmith, I don't want to use BSD at all. I would rather be water-boarded with a panda.
[01:11] <binarical-app> thank you alan_m
[01:11] <duli> I have Ubuntu on /sda8 (/boot) and sda9 (/) and Fedora on /sda6 (/boot) and /sda7 (/). The mbr of /sda is filled with Fedora's grub. I'm trying to chainload the ubuntu grub with "root (hd0,7)" and "chainloader +1", but it doesn't work. Any clues?
[01:11] <alan_m> eric_, it takes getting used to is all :D
[01:11] <binarical-app> gotcha
[01:11] <Pelo> eric_, give it a chance , you'll like it
[01:11] <owen1> Pelo: and than i don't need the path when i am in alt+F2 (or katapult)?
[01:11] <icesword> duli, that is for win,lol
[01:11] <Survivorman> eric_, and feel free to come here to ask questions when needed
[01:11] <alan_m> eric_, ive used it for 2+ years now, at first i was hesitant, now i absolutely love ubuntu and linux! :)
[01:11] <Pelo> owen1,  you shouldn,t need to , but put it in /usr/bin , not in /bin
[01:12] <N3WFI3> my first time installing linux was today and i love it over xp
[01:12] <eric_> so let me get this right... with linux you can make it all your own and with windows you are stuck in a box so to speak with changes
[01:12] <owen1> Pelo: great. thanks.
[01:12] <alan_m> eric_, yup
[01:12] <duli> icesword:: you're wrong. It works for linux partiitions as well. I already do it with different fedora partitions
[01:12] <psmith> the bsd line of operating system is tewnty to thirty times mor secure than even a hardened linux kernel... IMHO
[01:12] <Survivorman> it's like a mac vs windows commercial meets lifetime network meets opens linus torvalds in here now
[01:12] <Pelo> alan_m, you were hesitant ?  I instaleld it to try and took me 5 days to boot windows again, and that was just to get my email info
[01:12] <e|mer> dangit
[01:12] <ccvp> anyone?
[01:12] <e|mer> wifi crapped out
[01:12] <icesword> oic
[01:12] <ccvp> what is the difference between a "regular language" pack, or a UTF-8 one.  I installed a  language choser module for a website, but the module now needs either a regular language pack,  or same kind, but UTF-8?  whats the difference, and potential impact on users?
[01:13] <alan_m> Pelo, i was a die hard windowser....yeah...that didnt last long.
[01:13] <eric_> gotta go, thank you for your help everyone
[01:13] <Pelo> ccvp, I think regular is ansi or something
[01:13] <ccvp> well im about to upload about
[01:13] <N3WFI3> later eric
[01:13] <alan_m> eric_, any time my friend! :D
[01:13] <ccvp> 50 language packs
[01:13] <ccvp> but i need to know if i get regular, or UTF-8 ones?
[01:13] <ccvp> whats usually best way to go?
[01:13] <ccvp> its a website , i have about 47,000 users
[01:13] <_Silhouette_> http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html <--- can anyone help me with this? I'm up to step 5 but want to make sure this gets dl'ed on my F:\ drive, not C:\ drive
[01:14] <ccvp> but most i just found out are from china/india/europe
[01:14] <ccvp> not u.s
[01:14] <alan_m> wow...that was....the...most interesting conversation ive had in a long time....and it didnt end in a bash fest :D
[01:14] <psmith> A utf-8 is  an internationally ecpted standarad set by the international Standars Organization (ISO)!!
[01:14] <_Silhouette_> Also, will it delete the files on the F:\ drive once I install it there?
[01:14] <ccvp> psmith, i have 47,000 users , i jsut realized
[01:14] <ccvp> never checked stats
[01:14] <ccvp> and now i got msgs from users to give multi-lingual support
[01:14] <ccvp> i have a language "selector", but the selector needs language packs now
[01:14] <binarical-app> ccvp: many specific language packs will have to be developed by natve speakers
[01:14] <hanophix33> what can I use in WINE to play WMV?
[01:14] <ccvp> should i install the UTF-8 ones?
[01:15] <patrick_> join #ubuntu+1
[01:15] <patrick_> damn guys how do you join other channels lol
[01:15] <alan_m>  /join #ubuntu+1
[01:15] <Pelo> alan_m, in all fairness, I wasn't very fond of XP so  going into dapper seems like a releaf,
[01:15] <icesword> patrick_, lol,/j
[01:15] <alan_m> patrick_, try that :)
[01:15] <patrick_> haha thanks
[01:15] <icesword> _Silhouette_, that link didn't work
[01:15] <Pelo> patrick_,  type /join #ubuntu+1
[01:16] <joshritger> can someone tell me how to install doom 3. I am looking at the tutorial for ubuntu games category, I have downloaded the file, but can't figure out how to install it
[01:16]  * Pelo cleaned his monitor today,  much cheaper then buying a new one and just as good
[01:17] <bulio> Pelo: CRT or LCD?
[01:17] <Pelo> joshritger, what kind of file is it ?
[01:17] <icesword> how clean
[01:17] <Pelo> bulio, crt , second hand to begin with
[01:17] <icesword> hot to
[01:17] <hatter> anyone know what this means ?  "/usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed"
[01:17] <bulio> what did you clean it with?
[01:17] <hanophix33> What media player works IN WINE?
[01:17] <joshritger> .run
[01:17] <bulio> hanophix33: why not use a native linux media player?
[01:17] <hatter> regarding printing to a printer on another linux pc
[01:17] <icesword> sudo clean.lol
[01:17] <_Silhouette_> http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
[01:17] <hanophix33> in WINE?
[01:17] <Pelo> icesword, warm water with bleach in it for the casing, microfiber cloth with warm water for the glass
[01:18] <hanophix33> bulio: in WINE?
[01:18] <_Silhouette_> it's the link in !install
[01:18] <_Silhouette_> the last one
[01:18] <_Silhouette_> you gave me
[01:18] <joshritger> Pelo: it is doom3-linux-<IP_ADDRESS>4.x86.run
[01:18] <alan_m> hanophix33, wine isnt always the answer, there are alternatives that are native, meaning you do not have to use wine :D
[01:18] <Pelo> joshritger,  put the file on your desktop , open  a terminal , type  cd Desktop ,   sudo chmod +x filename.run  ,   sudo ./filename.run
[01:19] <joshritger> ok
[01:19] <patrick_> how do i make AWN run at startup?
[01:19] <hanophix33> alan_m: im trying to watch MLB.tv.....they have started using silverlight and I get get the option to use the OLD media player that works native in Linux
[01:19] <zcat[1]> Ooh, ff3b5 -- but no more adblock+ until they update it :(
[01:19] <Zelta> patrick_: System > Administration > Sessions
[01:19] <Pelo> patrick_, put it in menu >system > prefs > sessions
[01:19] <hanophix33> alan_m:  i can get the option to use old media player in WINE firefox
[01:19] <patrick_> thanks guys
[01:20] <charles|64> anyone feel like helping me with a frostwire java issue?
[01:20]  * alan_m shrugs..your out of my known territory now hanophix33 :/
[01:20] <Pelo> charles|64, which issue ?
[01:20] <Zelta> patrick_: Click "Add" and type in "avant-window-navigator" for command and "Avant Window Navigator" For name
[01:20] <_Silhouette_> Anyone? I'm awfully confused. :(
[01:20] <icesword> _Silhouette_, cannot open,what is your plan
[01:20] <icesword> anyway
[01:20] <charles|64> Pelo: it wont start i get this error http://pastebin.com/m3dc62247
[01:21] <N3WFI3> whats ur fav linux games? i dunno much good ones besides urban terror, i heard that unreal tournament 3 will have a linux client sometime!
[01:21] <_Silhouette_> !install
[01:21] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[01:21] <Pelo> charles|64, which version of java and which version of frostwire ?
[01:21] <patrick_> zelta thanks mate, brb lets see if it works
[01:21] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: what are you trying to do
[01:21] <_Silhouette_> http://tinyurl.com/3exghs
[01:21] <Zelta> N3WFI3: Join #ubuntu-offtopic for off topic discussion, please.
[01:21] <alan_m> !ot | N3WFI3, sorry mate
[01:21] <ubotu> N3WFI3, sorry mate: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:21] <_Silhouette_> I am trying to install linux w/o a CD
[01:22] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_:garr
[01:22] <_Silhouette_> I am up to step 5 but I am confused since it's written for installing to C:\
[01:22] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_:be right with you
[01:22] <_Silhouette_> but I want it installed to F:\, and I want to make sure
[01:22] <patrick_> it worked thanks guys =)
[01:22] <charles|64> Pelo: 5 and version 4.13.5 of frostwire
[01:22] <_Silhouette_> I don't want to get rid of my vista install
[01:22] <_Silhouette_> on C:
[01:23] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: can you work with partiton magic?
[01:23] <charles|64> Pelo: ive tried it with both version 5 and 6 of java
[01:23] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: make a partiton for linux
[01:23] <charles|64> Pelo: java version "1.6.0_03
[01:23] <_Silhouette_> I don't know about partitions
[01:23] <_Silhouette_> and it is for my external hard drive
[01:23] <_Silhouette_> for a different computer
[01:23] <_Silhouette_> its hard drive died
[01:24] <FloodBot2> _Silhouette_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:24] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: you will need about 500 mb of swap , and id make like a 6 gig partition w ext3 for the /
[01:24] <_Silhouette_> what does that mean?
[01:24] <_Silhouette_> I have never done this before.
[01:24] <mariobro> Hi, I installed Envy on my linux partition, and now I get no graphics when I try and boot.  How can I fix this?
[01:25] <souper> er
[01:25] <_Silhouette_> will it not let me just install it straight onto F:\?
[01:25] <Pelo> charles|64, I was going to suggest you try java 6 but apparently that is not the issue, then, I don'T have a solution for you ,  frostwire does havwe a forum and a chatroom but the chatroom can only be easily accessed using the irc applet in frostwire,  sorry,  try the ffrostwire forum maybe there is a solution in there, do a search for the error msg
[01:25] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_:okay no biggy, your trying to copy a mounted image to a hrad drive, if this hd is via usb you will need to make it bootable
[01:26] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: do you have a lappy?
[01:26] <_Silhouette_> yes I have the mounted image already
[01:26] <_Silhouette_> binarical-app: yes
[01:26] <_Silhouette_> I am up to step 5 already
[01:26] <_Silhouette_> http://tinyurl.com/3exghs
[01:26] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: why cant you use it to boot the other computer via network
[01:26] <_Silhouette_> I have no idea how to do that
[01:27] <ToddEDM> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu, and i am getting the error The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFII: Deskbar_Applet". ... anyone know how i can get rid of this?
[01:27] <_Silhouette_> I just want linux on this external harddrive
[01:27] <mariobro> why can't i use any graphics now that I've installed the ati driver from Envy onto my ubuntu partition?
[01:27] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: can you put you question into one big paragraph , this helps me to concentrate on you
[01:27] <Pelo> ToddEDM, remove the top pannel and then make a new one
[01:28] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: what part of step 5 is unclear
[01:28] <hanophix33> http://www.columbia.edu/~jr2075/mlbviewer.py
[01:28] <icesword> _Silhouette_, i open that site with google view,you said you at step 5,then what
[01:28] <hanophix33> can someone help me?
[01:28] <Pelo> hanophix33,  state the nature of the problem
[01:28] <ToddEDM> Pelo:  thanks
[01:28] <mariobro> can anyone see my posts?
[01:28] <hanophix33> pelo:  http://www.columbia.edu/~jr2075/mlbviewer.py
[01:29] <silkmonkey> hello
[01:29] <Pelo> mariobro, you are not being ignored it's just a busy chanel,  repeat periodicaly
[01:29] <_Silhouette_> binarical-app: I am trying to use http://tinyurl.com/3exghs to install linux onto my external harddrive (F:\) the instructions seem to be written for C:\ and I don't want any data overwritten. I want to use the hd to boot linux on my old computer which hard drive died. I don't understand the hd0, hd1, etc. and I want to make sure it gets onto F:\, not C:\
[01:29] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: there is no link in step five
[01:29] <silkmonkey> can anyone help me set up a dual boot ubuntu/vista system?
[01:29] <Mehal> is there anyone here that can help with intel gma's?
[01:29] <Pelo> hanophix33,  I'm not opening a link unitl I know what the problem is , and most of the othes wonT' either, so summarize your problem first
[01:29] <hanophix33> I need to do something in Python
[01:29] <Pelo> Mehal, gma ?
[01:29] <Mehal> i was here a few hours ago and there wasnt, but i wasnt sure if there might be now
[01:30] <Mehal> video card
[01:30] <Pelo> hanophix33,  then try asking in #python
[01:30] <demonspork> what exactly is the purpose of the HTTP Cache cleaner that frequently launches in Gutsy? I never remember seeing it in feisty (nor do I see it as I still have a box using feisty)
[01:30] <Pelo> Mehal, what't the issue ?
[01:30] <Mehal> i'm trying to use dual screen but it isnt working
[01:31] <rootlinuxusr> halp.
[01:31] <rootlinuxusr> 500gb drive says bad blocks, dmesg doesn't detect =/
[01:31] <Pelo> !dualhead | Mehal have you read this ?
[01:31] <ubotu> Mehal have you read this ?: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[01:31] <icesword> looks like you guys didn't play with grub4dos much.lol
[01:31] <Pelo> rootlinuxusr, fschk , for each partition
[01:31] <_Silhouette_> no I've never used grub4dos before
[01:32] <icesword> _Silhouette_, goto #ubuntu-cn,speak english ,thee,they understand
[01:32] <_Silhouette_> oh....is this not an english channel?
[01:32] <icesword> yes
[01:32] <Shiva88> it is
[01:33] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: okay that simple well see in windows it works like :a :f :d and so on . in linux it is defined as hda1: hd stands for hard drive , a stands for the first hd , 1 stands for the first partiton on that hd. it could keep on going like - second hd is sda1 and so on
[01:33] <icesword> zh-cn,you can speak english,there,they understand
[01:33] <rootlinuxusr> 500gb drive says bad blocks, dmesg doesn't detect =/
[01:33] <icesword> _Silhouette_, there you go,
[01:33] <rootlinuxusr> wrong paste xD Failed to access '/dev/sdc': No such file or directory
[01:33] <mariobro> why can't i use any graphics now that I've installed the ati driver from Envy onto my ubuntu partition?
[01:34] <Pelo> rootlinuxusr, try asking in ##linux
[01:34] <_Silhouette_> binarical-app: okay that makes sense. How do I make sure I'm installing it onto the right hard drive?
[01:34] <jtld> I am working to install Communigate in Ubuntu and the install script refers to the /etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d/init.d directorys but these don't exist and so the script is hanging. Any ideas?
[01:34] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: you need to calculate it.....
[01:34] <Pelo> mariobro, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg,  select the vesa driver when asked , and for everyting else, leave the defautl unless yo absolutely know better
[01:35] <_Silhouette_> binarical-app: how?
[01:35] <icesword> _Silhouette_, you need to reboot,it is just the same as the normal install,it will let you choose
[01:35] <zhobbs> what's a good place to find bleeding edge deb packages?
[01:35] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: i think it should be sdb6
[01:35] <icesword> _Silhouette_, why not listen to me,anyway
[01:35] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: listen to him
[01:35] <Pelo> zhobbs, debian sarge I beleive
[01:35] <psmith> seems to me like you may either a faulty drive controller and or the drive might be a defective unit.
[01:35] <Pelo> mariobro, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[01:35] <_Silhouette_> I just don't know what to add to menu.lst
[01:35] <icesword> you guys have no idea of grub4dos,all you know is cd install
[01:35] <rootlinuxusr> it had worked before..
[01:36] <mariobro> do i just type it in at the blank black screen at bootup?
[01:36] <icesword> _Silhouette_, join #ubuntu-cn
[01:36] <binarical-app> icesword: what do you think were all trying to learn
[01:36] <binarical-app> :P
[01:36] <Pelo> mariobro, yes once you get the prompt
[01:36] <psmith> Starnestommy: Why the nick ballet
[01:36] <CShadowRun> anyone recommend a nice IRC client for ubuntu? i'm an ex-mIRC user
[01:36] <Starnestommy> CShadowRun: xchat?
[01:36] <CShadowRun> I looked at xchat but there entire website is horrible, it's really put me off
[01:36] <mariobro> i never get a prompt
[01:36] <CShadowRun> like every single link on there website is broken lol
[01:36] <Pelo> CShadowRun, xchat , not xchat9gnome
[01:36] <_Silhouette_> if I add (hd0,0) it might overwrite Vista OS on C:\
[01:36] <_Silhouette_> which is bad
[01:36] <binarical-app> pidgin
[01:37] <Mehal> i believe i had it set up properly at one point, its just that when i boot, my external monitor has an msg stating "out of range, horiz. 62.7 khz, vert. 75.1 hz"
[01:37] <CShadowRun> Pelo yea, xchat.org is borked beyond belive
[01:37] <Pelo> schallstrom, from the repos,  in add/remove,
[01:37] <CShadowRun> it has so many broken links :/
[01:37] <CShadowRun> really puts me off.
[01:37] <binarical-app> icesword: hd0 , 0 is the boot partiton
[01:37] <Pelo> schallstrom, from the add/remove  applet in accessories
[01:37] <jtld> CShadowRun: There's always chatzilla
[01:37] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: thats the boot partition
[01:37] <jtld> >	I am working to install Communigate in Ubuntu and the install script refers to the /etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d/init.d directorys but these don't exist and so the script is hanging. Any ideas?
[01:37] <mariobro> pelo, I never get a prompt
[01:37] <Enders> i never liked xchat or even bitchx
[01:37] <icesword> binarical-app, i know,but this guy
[01:37] <psmith> CShadowRun: i'd recommend either Xchat, irssi or blackened.
[01:37] <icesword> .........
[01:37] <CShadowRun> i want something scriptable like mIRC
[01:37] <CShadowRun> hmm, blackened
[01:37] <Enders> irssi is cool
[01:37]  * CShadowRun looks it up :p
[01:37] <binarical-app> lol
[01:37] <_Silhouette_> oh....so it will definitely let me choose F:|, not C:\?
[01:38] <acalbaza> is it possible to mount a dongle under linux?
[01:38] <Pelo> mariobro, then  type the esc key rigth after the bios stuff,  that will get you the grub boot menu.  select the recovery mode from it  that will get you the prompt
[01:38] <icesword> _Silhouette_, is joining to #ubuntu-cn so hard for you,and i told you,their english is good,they understand
[01:38] <mariobro> pelo, thanks  I'll try this
[01:38] <psmith> CShadowRun: Then i'd highlly recommend eithr irssi or one of the other comman line interface based irc clients!!
[01:38] <CShadowRun> psmith don't suppose you've got a link for blackened? i googled it and got a bunch of metalica lol
[01:38] <_Silhouette_> icesword: I don't speak ChiNese. :P
[01:38] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: like i said linux dosnt work like windows, only windows is like windows. but hd0.0 is the boot partiton so the worst you could do is have to use your vista rescue cd
[01:38] <CShadowRun> psmith dunno, i like having a GUI
[01:39] <Nervetatoo> Hi. Are anyone able to help me solve a kernel panic i get at boot. I'm totaly lost as to what really goes wrong
[01:39] <icesword> _Silhouette_, you could speak english,there,and you are welcome to speak,okay!!!!!!
[01:39] <_Silhouette_> binarical-app: okay. I will do that. Will installing Linux delete any of my files where I install it?
[01:39] <CShadowRun> this was my setup before i started using linux :p http://cshadowrun.googlepages.com/mycomputer.PNG
[01:39]  * LjL is not sure what #ubuntu-cn has to do with this
[01:39] <_Silhouette_> should I back them up first?
[01:39] <Firefishe> I'm using feisty/kubuntu.  When using Konqueror as a file manager, I find that every time I click on a folder, it opens a new window, even when konqueror's is set to not do so.  Is this an ubuntu/kubuntu feature for all file managers, set at some other settings dialog?
[01:39] <CShadowRun> check out the bottom left screens, that's what i'm aiming at.
[01:39] <psmith> CShadowRun: Then try Xchat which i beleieve can be modded via scripts.
[01:39] <eXcentra> CShadowRun: geez, that looks ridiculous. D:
[01:40]  * Pelo thinks LjL should stay out of it , it seems very complicated
[01:40] <CShadowRun> eXcentra why? :p
[01:40] <eXcentra> CShadowRun: haha, too busy for me :p
[01:40] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: that is the boot partition , so you may need your rescue cd to make the system boot again.
[01:40] <CShadowRun> eXcentra haha, busy screens for busy people :p
[01:40] <_Silhouette_> binarical-app: OK, but will it delete anything?
[01:40] <eXcentra> haha
[01:40] <_Silhouette_> Do I need to make backups first?
[01:41] <icesword> _Silhouette_, i am wasting my time,binarical-app will walk you through it
[01:41] <CShadowRun> but yea, what would i be aiming at to acheive something like that in linux?
[01:41] <CShadowRun> i would run mIRC in wine but alot of the scripting functions don't work :(
[01:41] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: wrighting to hd0.0 will over write the master boot record.
[01:41] <_Silhouette_> I don't speak Chinese.
[01:41] <_Silhouette_> I don't want to go to a chinese channel.
[01:42] <icesword> you could speank english ,they could answer you in english,no probem then?
[01:42] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: instead if you did correct work, you should have a boot loader to boot linux as well. but i cant check your math for you
[01:42] <Remagen> Hello
[01:42] <Remagen> I'm trying to install ubuntu onto my hard drive via livecd
[01:42] <Enix> ok, i have a good copy of ubuntu 7.10 iso. I used to use nero 6 to burn boot cd's from .iso's. Now that i am using nero 8 i cant find a similar option. I have googled but came up short. So what do you recomend that i use to burn a boot cd? I am usuing vista at the moment. (man i miss linux:'-()
[01:42] <Remagen> but when I try to create a partition
[01:43] <Remagen> it tells me that I can't
[01:43] <Pelo> Remagen, try to keep it to one line,  it's easier
[01:43] <pale-yafa> hi, how come when I type su and then enter my password it tells me that password authentication failed?
[01:43] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: it comes down to you needing to configure your system. it should work and vista will still be ther because its not on hd0,0 .
[01:43] <icesword> _Silhouette_, i am trying to help,if you don't like,and have some idea of chinese channel,goodbye
[01:43] <Pelo> Remagen, you have windows installed arlready ?  you need to resize the windows partiton first to make room
[01:43] <infinitiguy> anybody using ltsp on hardy 8.04?
[01:43] <Pelo> Remagen, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[01:43] <jtld> Enix: Use ISO Recorder google for it, it works with vista but make sure to get the right version
[01:43] <fbc> Is there anything that will convert a fat32 to an EXTx filesystem?
[01:43] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: however if your work is fulty then you may need your rescue disks to fix the master boot record
[01:43] <_Silhouette_> binarical-app: I don't know what that all means, sorry. I don't know what a boot loader is
[01:44] <Pelo> fbc, not without loosing the data
[01:44] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: grub is a boot loader
[01:44] <infinitiguy> i was working on a locadev problem and then went through a DebugLocDev wiki page to change the root passwd in the chroot and now my client won't boot- permission dened...
[01:44] <Enix> jtld: ok thanks
[01:44] <fbc> Pelo, damn...
[01:44] <Pelo> fbc ?
[01:44] <Pelo> nvm
[01:44] <_Silhouette_> oh
[01:44] <_Silhouette_> yes I'm using grub
[01:44]  * Pelo is getting old and confused
[01:44] <jtld> FBC: Just boot with a Live CD mount the drives and copy your FAT32 data over to the Ext partition.
[01:44] <_Silhouette_> I'm following the instructions on the tinyurl url in !install
[01:44]  * binarical-app waves to pelo
[01:45] <fbc> Pelo, I got a 500gb fat32 drive that I would like to convert
[01:45] <icesword> lol
[01:45] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: how else can i help you
[01:45]  * Pelo feels treatened by binarical-app shaking his hands at him
[01:45] <charles|64> Pelo:
[01:45] <Remagen> So guys, how can I make a partition to install ubuntu? I run the install manager from a livecd, and it tells me that "no root file system is defined"
[01:45]  * binarical-app turns away in fera
[01:45] <fbc> Pelo, I got nothing bigger to backup the data to...
[01:45] <Johne5> how can i find where openssl is installed on my box?
[01:45] <binarical-app> *fear
[01:45] <Pelo> fbc, back up the data , and make an ext3 partition , then  copy the data back
[01:46] <Nervetatoo> I get a kernel panic but without any real errors before it, and the only thing during boot that looks suspicious is a call to name_to_dev_t() which is passed a dev uuid that i certainly dont recognize and its not for my hd. Also, nothing ends up in kern.log, which made me believe the hd could be failing, but in live cd i have no problem using it and fsck turns out ok (although i fixed a lot of multiply claimed blocks)
[01:46] <charles|64> Pelo: FYI to fix the frostwire 64 issue: sudo update-alternatives --config java and select option 5
[01:46] <Johne5> its installed, i just dont know where/how to find it
[01:46] <_Silhouette_> binarical-app: so you say that the worst that can happen is I have to maybe get the CD to boot the system, but no data should be lost on C:\ or on F:\ where it will be installed, and that if I follow the instructions in the tinyurl blog post, I should have no problems and it will let me choose exactly where I want it installed, correct?
[01:46] <Pelo> charles|64, congrats
[01:46] <enrique> aight i am back once again, i am still having problems with connecting ubuntu thru wireless using an acer aspire 5040 with an atheros 2413 wireless integrated card on a laptop
[01:46] <Pelo> fbc, got any free space on that hdd ?
[01:47] <charles|64> Pelo: thank you
[01:47] <_Silhouette_> it won't format the HD during install or anything, right?
[01:47] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: it depends on alot of things, but yes that is the gist of it. make sure you back your data up.... is one last bit of advice
[01:47] <_Silhouette_> okay maybe I should do a backup first.
[01:47] <_Silhouette_> on both drives or just the external HD?
[01:47] <Pelo> fbc, still there ?
[01:47] <fbc> Pelo, yeah like 100 gb.. are you recommending I resize copy resize,etc, until the whole thing is converted?
[01:47] <icesword> _Silhouette_, #ubuntu-cn,they are hdinstall expert
[01:47] <ohp> hi I was wondering if anyone can recommend a good usb webcam that they use with ubuntu
[01:48] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: you will need to make a partition on which linux will be installed, you may cut into the c drive
[01:48] <Pelo> fbc,  pretty much ,  , no other way I can see to go about it
[01:48] <enrique> aight i am back once again, i am still having problems with connecting ubuntu thru wireless using an acer aspire 5040 with an atheros 2413 wireless integrated card on a laptop
[01:48] <ratkymarcell> hello. I use 7.10, and sound has broken. The tester provided by Ubuntu works with OSS, cat /dev/urandom>/dev/dsp is OK. But there is no other program, which can make sound. Picture of my settings:  http://ratkymarcell.extra.hu/hang.png , pls help, if you can
[01:48] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: oh then no if its gonna stay on the external then i dont think so
[01:48] <jtld> ohp: Logitech Quickcam
[01:48] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: just dont mess up you internal hd
[01:49] <Pelo> fbc, actualy, check the optons,  you can    you cna probably have a bunch of contiguous ext3 partion and then merge them
[01:49] <fbc> Pelo,  hmm.. or maybe just wait until there is a defrag system for fat32...
[01:49] <_Silhouette_> binarical-app: yes it's just for external HD, not internal
[01:49] <Pelo> fbc, it would be worth the trouble to move everything to ext3
[01:49] <binarical-app> okay then that should work, did you make the ext hd bootable before you started?
[01:49] <Ymgve> I'm running 8.04 and have a rt61 wifi card - using the ndiswrapper method locks up my system - is this a known problem?
[01:49]  * icesword thinks noone notice there is a dir chinese in grub4dos,which may probrably means some chinese guy wrote it,lol
[01:50] <jtld> fbc: Diskeeper Defrag was made for FAT32 originally.
[01:50] <Stewie_Griffin> !hardy | Ymgve
[01:50] <ubotu> Ymgve: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[01:50] <_Silhouette_> um...I made the boot folder with the kernel and other file
[01:50] <bazhang> Ymgve: #ubuntu+1 please
[01:50] <fbc> jtld, is that a linux app?
[01:50] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: your internal hd will be sda
[01:50] <Pelo> g'night folks
[01:50] <icesword> bazhang, have any idea of grub4dos?
[01:50] <Stewie_Griffin> night pelo
[01:50] <jtld> I would do it from a Windows box personally
[01:50] <_Silhouette_> sda?
[01:50] <Ymgve> bazhang: Had the same problem in 7.10 tho
[01:50] <bazhang> icesword: sorry never heard of it
[01:50] <jtld> So no it is not
[01:51] <icesword> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[01:51] <enrique> i am still having problems with connecting ubuntu thru wireless using an acer aspire 5040 with an atheros 2413 wireless integrated card on a laptop, can anyone help?
[01:51] <_Silhouette_> what is sda?
[01:51] <bazhang> Ymgve: but you are running Hardy now and that discussion is in other channel
[01:51] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: are you sure that this wiki is good? you may really mess something up. not all hardware is the same, and software may need to be tested
[01:51] <_Silhouette_> it was in !install
[01:51] <_Silhouette_> !install
[01:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[01:52] <icesword> stop it
[01:52] <binarical-app> listen to ubotu
[01:52] <_Silhouette_> the tinyurl.com one
[01:52] <psmith> Ymgve: You shouldn't need to use the ndiswrapper methed as ubuntu 8.04 should already properly recognizes the rt61v4.0 and 4.1 chipset based wifi adapters!
[01:52] <jtld> enrique: I would find out who makes the chip and then try a different driver. Often you can get a different driver that way.
[01:52] <DragonLotus> hey, fuji finepix z10fd in ubuntu doesn't pop up when I plug it in.  How do I get to the pictures on it?
[01:52] <binarical-app> _Silhouette_: i cant help you any more, please tell us what happend when you finished the installation
[01:52] <icesword>  /msg ubotu command
[01:52] <Ymgve> psmith: with the default drivers I only got "Invalid RF chipset" errors
[01:52]  * icesword thinks noone notice there is a dir chinese in grub4dos,which may probrably means some chinese guy wrote it,lol
[01:52] <Stewie_Griffin> icesword, everything ok?
[01:52] <_Silhouette_> okay. I will back up critical info and then tell you how it goes
[01:53] <icesword> i am angry
[01:53] <bazhang> psmith Ymgve #ubuntu+1 please for that discussion
[01:53]  * binarical-app listend to icesword
[01:53] <jtld> Pelo: Any ideas on my post?
[01:53] <MeatGrinder> Anybody got a 5-button mouse (I have Wireless Intellimouse Explorer 2.0) working with all five buttons in Ubuntu?
[01:53] <jtld> >	I am working to install Communigate in Ubuntu and the install script refers to the /etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d/init.d directorys but these don't exist and so the script is hanging. Any ideas?
[01:53] <icesword> nothing,myself is not grub4dos expert
[01:53] <enrique> jtld-- i have tried 3 different drivers, they all install correctly but i cannot get it to show up in the network manager as an option to connect, when i disconnect the ethernet i lose connection
[01:54] <Nervetatoo> I get a kernel panic at boot but without any errors before it, and the only thing during boot that looks suspicious is a call to name_to_dev_t() which is passed a dev uuid that i certainly dont recognize and its not for my hd. Also, nothing ends up in kern.log, which made me believe the hd could be failing, but in live cd i have no problem using it and fsck turns out ok (although i fixed a lot of multiply claimed blocks)
[01:54] <jtld> Run ifconfig in a terminal window does it show up as a device?
[01:54]  * binarical-app thinks someone wants to test it and they should
[01:54] <enrique> yes
[01:54] <enrique> wait
[01:54] <enrique> no not on there
[01:54] <Stewie_Griffin> Nervetatoo, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[01:54] <Lainy> what is the chinese channel?
[01:54] <enrique> but it shows up in the device manager
[01:54] <Lainy> !zh
[01:54] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[01:54] <Nervetatoo> Stewie_Griffin: 7.10
[01:55] <Stewie_Griffin> Nervetatoo, just making sure, were getting a lot of hardy people trying to get support in here, was gonna say if its hardy go to #ubuntu+1, but seeing as its gutsy...hmm....
[01:55] <jtld> Enrique:By default drivers that are foreign are restricted so check if it is restricted.
[01:55] <donciccio> I can not execute an application in wine from a CD-R. It says: can not open sitocmenu.nfo. Write protected
[01:56] <ratkymarcell> hello. I use 7.10, and sound has broken. The tester provided by Ubuntu works with OSS, cat /dev/urandom>/dev/dsp is OK. But there is no other program, which can make sound. Picture of my settings:  http://ratkymarcell.extra.hu/hang.png , pls help, if you can
[01:56] <enrique> it shows as a restricted but says that its enabled and is working
[01:57] <mattheas_> Hello
[01:57] <jtld> Enrique: I would un-restrict it and let it load a driver, I had to do this yesterday to get Nvidia graphics working correctly.
[01:57] <Stewie_Griffin> hello mattheas
[01:57] <binarical-app> hi
[01:57] <LOLZebra> yo
[01:57] <enrique> ok
[01:57] <mattheas> I have quite the issue
[01:57] <mattheas> :\
[01:57] <Stewie_Griffin> state it please :D
[01:57] <mattheas> I've been searching the forums and the webternats
[01:57] <ghui> hi all, anyone know of a good proxy manager? or would it be best for me to attempt to write my own script?
[01:57] <mattheas> and the answers to my questions deal with Ubuntu 6.10 not 7.10
[01:57] <mattheas> So I'm assuming the solution is out of date
[01:58] <mattheas> hence, I am here
[01:58] <Felonious> !themes
[01:58] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:58] <mattheas> I have the Atheros 5006 wifi
[01:58] <Stewie_Griffin> do we even support edgy anymore guys?
[01:58] <mattheas> the lights will not turn on
[01:58] <mattheas> and it won't show up in the tray
[01:58] <mattheas> I'm going nuts
[01:58] <psmith> Wait a second ewas edgy 7.0?
[01:58] <Nervetatoo> Well, i can't really find anything usefull on name_to_dev_t() on google, and it seems somewhat logical that the wrong uuid being sent as an argument to that function cant be helping the situation, so any ideas on why the wrong uuid could be sent to that function might at least point in the right direction
[01:58] <donciccio> I can not execute an application in wine from a CD-R. It says: can not open sitocmenu.nfo. Write protected
[01:59] <Stewie_Griffin> feisty was 7.10
[01:59] <Stewie_Griffin> oh wait 7.04
[01:59] <Stewie_Griffin> oops :/
[01:59] <mattheas> can anyone help?
[01:59] <Stewie_Griffin> um....honestly dont remember :/
[01:59] <psmith> I don't beleive that we support it?
[01:59] <mattheas> You don't support the atheros 5006?
[02:00] <mattheas> like, every acer in the world is made with an atheros xD
[02:00] <Stewie_Griffin> gutsy is 7.10 so feisty is 7.04 so edgy is 7.10 :)
[02:00] <Stewie_Griffin> psmith, it hit its end of support not too long ago i believe...like a few weeks ago.
[02:00] <Stewie_Griffin> *6.10
[02:00] <mattheas> so
[02:00] <bazhang> mattheas: it is not a matter of what we support; it is a matter of what manufacturers allow; that 5006 might in fact be the 5007--what is the bus id for it in lspci (just the one line)
[02:00] <Stewie_Griffin> dang my fingers are going faster than my brain tonight :)
[02:01] <eric> i need some help with linux
[02:01] <mattheas> second
[02:01] <psmith> 6.10 is suported untill either n09-or 2k180 a beleive
[02:01] <mattheas> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter [168c:001c] (rev 01)
[02:02]  * Stewie_Griffin shrugs..im honestly gonna walk away from this one before i seriously screw up and cause more chaos and confusion than already done :D
[02:02] <remi> I'm trying to compile a software; I run `./configure` and it all seems ok, but when I type `make` it tells me that there are now make files, but there are a makefile.in and a makefile.am in the current folder. can anyone help me?
[02:02] <donciccio> I can not execute an application in wine from a CD-R. It says: can not open sitocmenu.nfo. Write protected. Can somebody help me?
[02:02] <eric> im trying to install frostware and its telling me that only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time
[02:02] <eric> what do i do?
[02:02] <enrique> jtld-- sorry i was at work and had a call, so i should uncheck the mark next to it in the restricted drivers manager?
[02:02] <ratkymarcell> hello. I use 7.10, and sound has broken. The tester provided by Ubuntu works with OSS, cat /dev/urandom>/dev/dsp is OK. But there is no other program, which can make sound. Picture of my settings:  http://ratkymarcell.extra.hu/hang.png ,
[02:02] <Starnestommy> eric: close the other software management tools
[02:03] <LjL> donciccio: have you tried asking in #winehq ?
[02:03] <eric> how do i do that?
[02:03] <tylerflick> Anyone heard in a current news on Google's GPhone?
[02:03] <Nervetatoo> What could be the reason that there are nothing logged during boot until i get the kernel panic. If i could get a log to read when im booting from livecd i can atleast look at what happened and hopefully find some clue. WOuld the fact that no log is written to disk imply that the failure happens before disks are ready to be written to (mounted)? And are there any ways the swap space could be broken in a way that it would result in a kernel panic? As
[02:03] <eric> i didnt know any were running?
[02:03] <donciccio> no, thanks LjL.
[02:03] <mattheas> bazghang, did you see what I copypasta'd?
[02:03] <psmith> donciccio: You need to preoform a ./configure && make && make install clean.
[02:03] <bazhang> http://drewwithers.com/2007/12/ubuntu-linux-710-gutsy-on-toshiba.html mattheas
[02:03] <mariobro> I've installed Envy and tried to install the ati driver.  The next time i booted, i got a black screen.  i was able to edit xserver-xorg to get graphics back, but how can i get the extra desktop graphics enabled?
[02:03] <eric> i restarted my comp and it still says that
[02:04] <mattheas> :D
[02:04] <Astralian> Hi Everyone!
[02:04] <mattheas> Thanks!
[02:04] <eric> how do i close oth the other software management tools?
[02:04] <eric> out
[02:04] <Astralian> I need some help to install Baunty 7.10
[02:05] <bazhang> Astralian: what is baunty
[02:05] <Astralian> It freezes after trying to load Boot manager
[02:05] <Astralian> bazhang: :-) Ubuntu 7.10
[02:05] <donciccio> psmith: all in one line and as root?
[02:05] <mariobro> I've installed Envy and tried to install the ati driver.  The next time i booted, i got a black screen.  i was able to edit xserver-xorg to get graphics back, but how can i get the extra desktop graphics enabled?
[02:06] <bazhang> !envy | mariobro
[02:06] <ubotu> mariobro: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[02:06] <psmith> donciccio: yes i n the folder created when you untared the original archive.
[02:07] <Astralian> Who knows how to install Ubuntu 7.10 to Acer laptop with SCSI HDD? First message is cannot allocate memory and another is freezes and screen becomes black after Loading boot manage
[02:07] <DragonLotus> /s/dragonlotus
[02:07] <DragonLotus> How do I access my digital camera in ubuntu
[02:08] <grego22> hi folks
[02:08] <DragonLotus> hi
[02:08] <donciccio> psmith: sorry, but I do not understand. It is a CD-R and it is a wine application...
[02:08] <eric> can someone please help me?
[02:08] <grego22> eric with what?
[02:08] <eric> this is really pissing me off
[02:08] <Astralian> But when I press F6 type Install in doesn't say that it canot allocate memory but freze with Kernel Panic - not Syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (8,1)
[02:08] <bubu1uk> DragonLotus, u plug it in. it should work automaticly
[02:09] <Astralian> PLEASE I need some help over here!
[02:09] <DragonLotus> bubu1uk: I did.  Usb registered on camera, but not in ubuntu.
[02:09] <Nervetatoo> DragonLotus: check /media if it appears there
[02:09] <simcop2387-lap> ok i've got an issue that doesn't seem to have a solution according to google, when running supertux i see this message over and over in the terminal,  [driAllocateTexture:636] unable to allocate texture, i can't seem to find a solution
[02:09] <psmith> Astralian: I'd recommend researching this kiind of thing before making the jump to linux as it will save you considerable number of headeches later on down the road.
[02:09] <Datalanche> Hi, I'm going to reformat my computer to be a Linux box once Hardy is released, and I've been reading about various file systems. I am trying to see if there is any major reason to use something other than ext3. I have 5 hard drives, and most of them store fairly large files (ISO's, videos, etc.). I do a lot of archiving and extracting, some fairly light video encoding and dvd rippping, and the like. Any suggestions on which F
[02:09] <fbc> If I do the hardy upgrade now will I get the beta or the package that people will get in 18 days?
[02:09] <grego22> Astralian: with ubuntu instalation trough live boot?
[02:10] <eric> can someone please help me?????
[02:10] <DragonLotus> Nervetatoo: nope, not in /media
[02:10] <Astralian> grego22: I downloaded image from sity for AMD64 TurionX2 64 bit
[02:10] <bazhang> fbc discussion of that in #ubuntu+1 please
[02:10] <Flannel> fbc: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support.  You'll get the daily versions of everything.
[02:10] <binarical-app> hey eric
[02:10] <brian_> What port does vncviewer use?
[02:10] <grego22> Astralian: hardy?
[02:10] <icesword> binarical-app, if you feel comfortable,i am sorry,then
[02:10] <Starnestommy> eric: I think the problem has something to do witht the file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:10] <Astralian> grego22: ?? I burned it to DVD-RW then.
[02:10] <Starnestommy> *with
[02:11] <grego22> Astralian: i asked about the version you downloaded
[02:11] <psmith> Datalanche: I'd recommend either the extension 2,3 or rasier and or raizer 4 file systems> :p
[02:11] <binarical-app> icesword: no man that was me, my bad sorry , nothing there just i have been slapped a few times for getting off toppic already so i gotta watch out
[02:11] <Astralian> psmith: grego22: ubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64
[02:11]  * Stewie_Griffin thinks canonical really screwed up putting Hardy as a huge link on their main ubuntu.com page :(
[02:11] <eric> how do i fix it?
[02:11] <Zelta> psmith: reisfer4 isn't really any better than ext3
[02:11] <Astralian> grego22: but i have laptop
[02:12] <zelrikriando> anyone has seen badkitty lately?
[02:12] <eric> linux blows
[02:12] <grego22> Astralian: you cant install? can you be more specific?
[02:12] <zelrikriando> !seen badkitty
[02:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen badkitty - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:12] <grego22> eric whats going on?
[02:12] <zelrikriando> blah
[02:12] <LjL> zelrikriando: /seenserv seen badkitty
[02:12] <eric> i am trying to install frostwar
[02:12] <eric> ware
[02:12] <grego22> eric and then ?
[02:12] <Astralian> grego22: Who knows how to install Ubuntu 7.10 to Acer laptop with SCSI HDD? First message is cannot allocate memory and another is freezes and screen becomes black after Loading boot manage
[02:12] <bazhang> eric what is frostware
[02:12] <eric> its telling me to close out all other software management programs
[02:12] <zelrikriando> thanks LjL
[02:13] <bazhang> eric then close them
[02:13] <Astralian> grego22: But when I press F6 type Install in doesn't say that it canot allocate memory but freze with Kernel Panic - not Syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (8,1)
[02:13] <grego22> Astralian: how much RAM you have?
[02:13] <eric> ive restarted my comp and it still doesnt work
[02:13] <psmith> Zelta: : I have used it and IMHO, far surpasses even the journalling capibilities of xt2,3 file systems.
[02:13] <Astralian> 1024
[02:13] <grego22> eric hmm
[02:13] <Astralian> grego22: 1024
[02:13] <Stewie_Griffin> eric, so...what seems to be your problem with that? its trying not to screw up something by that :D
[02:13] <eric> the same thing happens with limewire
[02:13] <Stewie_Griffin> oh, nevermind
[02:13] <binarical-app> eric: okay that means that your system cant get a lock on the package manager since another application is using it. that means you have add and remove as well as sysnapic installed
[02:13] <grego22> Astralian: did you search for errors on dvd, do it, i am now pretty sure your dvd is corrupted
[02:13] <eric> how do i close oth software management programs
[02:13] <donciccio> psmith: sorry, but I do not understand. It is a CD-R and it is a wine application...
[02:14] <nixnoob> anyone know how to fix "your audio capture settings are invalid" error?
[02:14] <grego22> Astralian: eric be right back 5min
[02:14] <Astralian> grego22: after booting dvd-rw it says ok
[02:14] <bazhang> !aptfix | eric
[02:14] <ubotu> eric: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[02:14] <psmith> Astralian: : id recommend  a minimum swap size of 1536MB
[02:14] <grego22> Astralian: look for this option on live boot, and search for errors in dvd
[02:14] <binarical-app> eric: sorry open
[02:14] <Astralian> psmith: I ca't install
[02:14] <Astralian> psmith: can't
[02:14] <binarical-app> eric: use the mouse to close un need applications
[02:14] <eric> i understand nothing about what you just said
[02:14] <Datalanche> eric, try running in terminal: sudo apt-get clean
[02:15] <Zelta> psmith: JFS has even better journalling capabilities
[02:15] <brian_> Does anyone know what port to forward if I want to use vncviewer?
[02:15] <psmith> Astralian: have you tried another distroibution suc as Slackware or arc?
[02:16] <bubu1uk> brian_, not sure, i think 5900
[02:16] <Astralian> psmith: what is another?
[02:16] <brian_> bubuluk: Sounds about right :D Thanks.
[02:16] <binarical-app> brian_:http://www.realvnc.com/support/faq.html
[02:16] <Astralian> psmith: where can i get it?
[02:16] <bazhang> slackware?
[02:17] <enrique> aight still have not resolved the issue about the wireless in ubuntu
[02:17] <Nervetatoo> What could be the reason that there are nothing logged during boot until i get the kernel panic? Would the fact that no log is written to disk imply that the failure happens before disks are ready to be written to (mounted)? And are there any ways the swap space could be broken in a way that it would result in a kernel panic? As the uuid sent to name_to_dev_t() i just realized actually is the uuid for my swap partition
[02:17] <Datalanche> hmmm, so I guess ext3 it is :)
[02:17] <Datalanche> I don't really need super speed, just need it to work
[02:17] <Astralian> psmith: I tried Mandriva 2008 and it installs and runs successfully!
[02:17] <sjovan> brian_: first you have to finde out what the server name is. maby you are running tightvnc? any way ---> ps aux | grep vnc or something should figure out of that. then you do ---> netstat -anp|grep name-of-ap, and then you can se the port. you could also reconfigure the pory (that's prob. the easyes way)
[02:17]  * binarical-app thinks Datalanche is ready for hardy
[02:17] <brian_> binarical-app: Ah, thanks, that confirms it. 5900.
[02:18] <binarical-app> np
[02:18] <Datalanche> binarical-app: lol, I thikn not
[02:18] <brian_> sjovan: :P I have everything set up, it's just a matter of which port I needed to forward in my router. Thanks though :)
[02:18] <psmith> Astralian: You can find slackware @http;//www.slackware.com and arc at http://www.arklinux.org/
[02:18] <binarical-app> Datalanche: heh well its gonna be a ride i can tell you that
[02:19] <Astralian> psmith: I tried Mandriva 2008 and it's all ok with it
[02:19] <Datalanche> binarical-app: I'm not installing until "launch day". It is still in bad shape or something?
[02:19] <nixnoob> anyone know how to fix "your audio capture settings are invalid" error?
[02:19] <binarical-app> Datalanche: its not finished yet, but i wouldnt say bad shape
[02:19] <Datalanche> -bad + beta ;)
[02:19] <Stewie_Griffin> Datalanche, quite the contrary, but its not supported yet :D
[02:19] <enrique> aight still have not resolved the issue about the wireless in ubuntu
[02:19] <Stewie_Griffin> Stewie_Griffin, by us that is
[02:20] <Datalanche> Well, I've been using Ubunt since 5.10
[02:20] <Stewie_Griffin> crap, lol i meant Datalanche
[02:20] <enrique> any help please lol its gettin frustrating now
[02:20] <Datalanche> but this'll be my first all-Linux attempt
[02:20] <binarical-app> yeah
[02:20] <binarical-app> enrique: how can we help
[02:20] <Stewie_Griffin> dude, why did my xchat just tab ME when i was going for Datalanche  :/
[02:20] <psmith> Astralian: Some distributions have better support for archaic hardware as you demonstraighted with tou experience with mandravia 2008!
[02:20] <LoneShadow> Can anyone tell me whats the best way to fix the logitech g5 mouse not working after gutsy to hardy upgrade ?
[02:20]  * binarical-app thinks stewies up to something
[02:21] <Astralian> psmith: but my laptop isnew not archaic!
[02:21] <Stewie_Griffin> binarical-app, always :D
[02:21] <enrique> i still cannot get wireless to work with ubuntu on acer aspire 5040 with atheros 2413.... i have tried many driver and many other issuses like unrestricting but i cannot seem to show a wireless connection on network manager
[02:21] <enrique> i am very new to this and have been trying to get this to work for 4 days now
[02:21] <bazhang> LoneShadow: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy discussion
[02:22]  * Stewie_Griffin is just happy that i no longer have restricted drivers to work with...
[02:22] <binarical-app> enrique: please look for mad wifi
[02:22] <enrique> i ahve tried that as well
[02:22] <enrique> have*
[02:22] <psmith> Astralian: some time even in the case of new hardware certain distributions can act in an undissirable way.
[02:22] <LoneShadow> bazhang: thanks
[02:22] <Astralian> psmith: I'l try to install alternate version
[02:23] <enrique> i am not sure if i am doing something wrong or just not doing it in order or what i am doing but i just cannot seem to get it working at all lol i am sure it is something simple that i am missing but i am not sure what
[02:23] <MeatGrinder> Does anyone know where (what directory) Firefox stores installed certificates? I'm trying to get Evolution to import certificates from Firefox
[02:23] <LoLeN> guys i have a grub problem
[02:23] <binarical-app> enrique: you will need to tell us more aobut your problem. please tell us what you are trying to do, which programs you have tryed with, why you chose those programs..... things like whats not working and why it isnt working ..... thanks
[02:23] <psmith> Astralian: I'd go no lower than 6.06 dapper Drake.
[02:24] <Stewie_Griffin> LoLeN, between the thousand or so of us, we can probably give you a solution, state your problem :D
[02:24] <bazhang> enrique: please open a terminal and type ifconfig how many entries are there--two or three
[02:24] <LoLeN> how can i re-install grub?
[02:24] <gregcha117> my sound does not work but alsa appears to recognize my sound device what can i do?
[02:24] <Stewie_Griffin> !grub | LoLeN
[02:24] <ubotu> LoLeN: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:24] <Astralian> psmith: it's the same version but different installers
[02:24] <LoLeN> Stewie_Griffin lol
[02:24] <Stewie_Griffin> check out that first link :D
[02:24] <Astralian> psmith: in alternate version is text
[02:24] <LoLeN> !grub
[02:24] <Stewie_Griffin> LoLeN, you dont have to redo it
[02:24] <Stewie_Griffin> just click on the first link
[02:25] <LoLeN> k
[02:25]  * binarical-app says goodbye to everyone .....gnight
[02:25] <bazhang> cya
[02:25] <Astralian> help help heeeelp
[02:25] <Astralian> bye
[02:25] <enrique> here are only 2- i know i read on one the documentations thats there should be one showing a third one for wireless, i have tried acer_acpi and madwifiand ndiswrapper and even another windows drier just labeled 802bg.zip
[02:25] <Astralian> seems like nobody can help me
[02:26] <enrique> i have learned how to extract and install thru terminal
[02:26] <Stewie_Griffin> Astralian, patience dude, patience :D
[02:26] <enrique> i have done that but still cannot seem to get it working
[02:26] <bazhang> Astralian: thought you were going to try the alternate cd
[02:26] <Astralian> Stewie_Griffin: you see it's too early for linux everytime user are in trouble
[02:27] <psmith> Astralian: just sebtle for text  anfd in doing so you will acturally gain  more knowledge about the command line interface and the fore more knowleddge about linux and its *nix cousins!
[02:27] <icesword>  i agree
[02:27] <GrueTamer> psmith speaks the truth
[02:27] <Astralian> bazhang: Stewie_Griffin: but windows buy cd and install that's all . 100 installation no worries but Linux
[02:27] <bazhang> Astralian: then stay with windows; they have a support channel ##windows
[02:28] <Astralian> bazhang: I'm talking that many people ae in trouble you even can't try linux
[02:28] <GrueTamer> Astralian: actually, getting windows to have all the stuff you want is just as hard as it is in ubuntu.  its probably HARDER to hunt down drivers and stuff
[02:28] <skimat> someone here that setted up the brainstorm site
[02:28] <bubu1uk> Astralian, i know bout people that did many linux installs and no problem. but had many with windows. funny, ain't it?
[02:28] <psmith> Astralian: Knowing what i have klearned even in my short three years as a avid user and promoter of linux and its *nix next of kin.
[02:29] <bazhang> Astralian: that should be taken to ##windows or #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:29] <ubuntuisloved> has anyone had issues with ethernets not staying up on boot?  ive got eth1 a second ethernet i keep having to manuelly use command to bring up on boot?
[02:29] <Astralian> bubu1uk: it'sbullshit, you can't have troubles installing Windows
[02:29] <GrueTamer> lol
[02:30] <eXcentra> hahaha
[02:30] <GrueTamer> have you EVER done a windows install? :)
[02:30] <bazhang> !language | Astralian
[02:30] <ubotu> Astralian: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:30] <bubu1uk> Astralian, check linuxoutlaws, those guys had. :P
[02:30] <Stewie_Griffin> !ot | Astralian
[02:30] <ubotu> Astralian: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:30] <bubu1uk> Astralian, and those are no amateurs
[02:30] <LoLeN> when i do "find /boot/grub/stage1" i dont get anything
[02:30] <salemac> Is it possible to share files between 'VISTA Home' and 'Ubuntu (8.04)' ?  all the answers i can find talk about 'secpol' but it's not in Home version of Vista
[02:30] <bazhang> Astralian: please stay on topic
[02:30] <Astralian> bubu1uk:  outlaws :-) funny
[02:31] <Nervetatoo> If every program supporting io either gets io error when trying to start it, or segfaults (vim), what could i do to fix it, that doesnt involve a reboot?
[02:31] <Flannel> !samba | salemac
[02:31] <ubotu> salemac: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[02:31] <Flannel> salemac: But, Hardy support is in #ubuntu+1
[02:31] <SpookyET> I hate ati. I have to choose between HD video (official driver) and compiz (open source driver)
[02:31] <LoLeN> nvm found it
[02:31] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for support of Hardy salemac
[02:31] <Astralian> bazhang: I saty
[02:31] <psmith> Astralian: Tplease remove thi self to #defocus!
[02:31] <salemac> ok, thanks
[02:31] <Astralian> stay
[02:31] <Astralian> psmith: what?
[02:31] <Stewie_Griffin> Astralian, play by our rules then please Astralian :)
[02:32] <bazhang> Astralian: then please watch your language and stay on topic
[02:32] <fevel> hey guys...anyone syncing ipod touch on ubuntu without any issues?
[02:33] <psmith> Stewie_Griffin: Thakns for sebtling Astralian .
[02:33]  * Stewie_Griffin is here to help...and thats what I do best :)
[02:33] <bazhang> fevel: you either need to the deb for libgpod 0.6.0 for that or wait 17 days for next release
[02:33] <opteroN> how do i install a emerald theme
[02:33] <Astralian> psmith: whatis sebtling?
[02:33] <GrueTamer> settling?
[02:34] <fevel> bazhang, really? on the next release it will have support?
[02:34] <der|kunstler> hi there, any CISCO Network Simulators (GTK preferred and besides GNS3) ?
[02:34] <bazhang> fevel: aye
[02:34] <fevel> bazhang, thats cool...Ive had no luck compiling gtkpod
[02:34] <psmith> Astralian: lay off  as i am trying to be of asitance to no only you but other users as well.
[02:35] <bazhang> Astralian: read the /topic
[02:35] <Stewie_Griffin> Guys, please dont argue/fight in open chat...if you must..take it private please, thank you very much.
[02:35] <the_darkside_986> is there a way i can set a key to represent a right mouse button click?
[02:35] <UberSisyphus> what is the proper instillation method to install broadcom 43xx wireless chipset on ubuntu? google returned depricated and unsupported solutions
[02:36] <the_darkside_986> i installed ubuntu on an old G3 Mac. but since i got this for free i have no intentions of investing in a 2/3-button mouse. it's just a nice little system for others to use.
[02:36] <enrique> how might i get this wireless connection to show up on network manager? i only show wired and dial up
[02:36] <psmith> Stewie_Griffin: Exactlly my point I am trying my bets to act as wehat is refered to as a Catalyst.
[02:36] <Supaplex> what install cd can I use for a dell vostro 200? the foxconn motherboard is using an intel ich9 chipset.
[02:36]  * Stewie_Griffin nods to LjL
[02:37] <LjL> bit late but still
[02:37] <bazhang> Supaplex: which have you tried?
[02:37] <Felonious> !themes
[02:37] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[02:37] <Stewie_Griffin> better late than never i say LjL
[02:37] <psmith> Supaplex: You should be able to use a 7.10 boot disk.
[02:37] <LjL> Felonious, you can PM the bot.
[02:37] <LjL> !msgthebot > Felonious    (Felonious, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:37] <Supaplex> debian sid daily build. the keyboard (usb only) is very laggy, and the installer doesn't detect any harddisks
[02:38] <bazhang> Supaplex: ah sorry; which ubuntu have you tried
[02:38] <GrueTamer> Supaplex: when in doubt, alternate
[02:38] <Astralian> Åáàòü êîëîòèòü!
[02:38] <LjL> !english | Astralian
[02:38] <ubotu> Astralian: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[02:38] <Astralian> hi everi
[02:38] <icesword> what the hell
[02:38] <bazhang> english please Astralian
[02:39] <Supaplex> none. this chipset is not very old. :)
[02:39] <GrueTamer> Supaplex: when in doubt, alternate
[02:39] <mattheas_> mk
[02:39] <icesword> bazhang, traditional chinese,is that
[02:39] <mattheas_> For some reason
[02:39] <bazhang> Supaplex: you might try the alternate cd
[02:39] <mattheas_> When I did what was said about my wireless adapter
[02:39] <Supaplex> oh, where's that at?
[02:39] <Astralian> Why nobody know what to do?
[02:39] <mattheas_> It's still not picking up wireless signals
[02:39] <the_darkside_986> in Ubuntu can i switch keypress values? like make a certain key emulate the pressing of another key?
[02:39] <bazhang> mattheas_: is it seeing a card now?
[02:40] <mattheas_> eh
[02:40] <mattheas_> it says it sees the hardware
[02:40] <Supaplex> e alternate desktop CD. T - found it.
[02:40] <mattheas_> but 1) the light isn't coming on
[02:40] <mattheas_> and 2) it's not picking up wireless networks
[02:41] <bazhang> mattheas_: and does ifconfig show two or three entries
[02:41] <mattheas_> two
[02:41] <mattheas_> eth0 and lo
[02:41] <enrique> i am having the same problem as mattheas not showing a wireless connection in network manager, however it is late here and i respect u all for volunteering your time to help, but i am going to bed now and i will try again tomorrow, thanks again :-)
[02:41] <bazhang> mattheas_: then it does not see the card
[02:41] <mattheas_> hmm
[02:41] <mattheas_> so is the Atheros not supported?
[02:41] <psmith> mattheas_: Have you siabled t roaming mode via the system >> networking ?
[02:41] <the_darkside_986> using ndiswrapper anyone?
[02:42] <mattheas_> no
[02:42] <redtide> hello...i would like to know how to save this as a script. i know how to run it, just not what to copy and paste it to, and what to save it as. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62119/plain/
[02:42] <brian_> I'm back again #ubuntu! Is there a way that I can set gutsy so that it will automagically back up a certain folder to a CD-RW every so often? And delete the old data on the CD-RW?
[02:42] <the_darkside_986> because i know for sure that ndiswrapper package forgets to do the modprobe
[02:42] <bazhang> mattheas_: that is the 5006/7 or other
[02:42] <psmith> mattheas_: try that and t report wour results bac here please?
[02:42] <GrueTamer> redtide: copy and paste it to a text editor, and save as a shell script.
[02:42] <mattheas_> k
[02:42] <redtide> ok thank you
[02:43] <mattheas_> ehhh
[02:43] <mattheas_> Ok wait
[02:43] <Dr_willis> heh - i cliicked on that link redbox  in Xchat and it download/loaded in to a text editor for me  - under kde. :)
[02:43] <mattheas_> What do you want me to do, I thought I understood
[02:43] <mattheas_> guess not
[02:44] <Dr_willis> redtide,  wget http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62119/plain/     saves it as index.html, rename index.html to be Somecommand.sh :)
[02:44] <mattheas_> bazhang and psmith
[02:45] <bazhang> mattheas_: that is the atheros 5006/7?
[02:45] <mattheas_> uhh
[02:45] <mattheas_> I was believing it was 5006
[02:45] <mattheas_> I read it somewhere in here
[02:45] <bazhang> you followed the instructions completely in the link I gave you mattheas_?
[02:45] <brian_> Is there a way that I can set gutsy so that it will automagically back up a certain folder to a flash drive every so often?
[02:45] <mattheas_> yes
[02:45] <mattheas_> what's weird
[02:46] <mattheas_> is when I try to modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:46] <mattheas_> it says module not found
[02:46] <mattheas_> but it's def installed
[02:46] <Dr_willis> brian_,  crontab and the rsync command perhaps.
[02:46] <bazhang> mattheas_: what errors did you encounter please be precise
[02:46] <mattheas_> ^^
[02:46] <Dr_willis> brian_,  or any of a dozen other 'backup' utilities from the crontab
[02:47] <psmith> mattheas_: I messed up thae networking settings  dialauge is under System > networking and then highlight  the wifi card and sellect proeprties once the proepties window popsup deselect the checkbox that states enable raoming mode and click close.
[02:47] <hanophix33> how can i open mplayer using MediaPlayerConnectivity in Wine Firefox?
[02:47] <mattheas_> there is no System > Networking
[02:48] <bazhang> mattheas_: this ubuntu or ubuntu-based
[02:48] <mattheas_> It's ubuntu
[02:48] <mattheas_> installed from the live cd
[02:48] <bazhang> which version mattheas_
[02:48] <brian_> Dr_willis: :D Any idea how easy they are to set up, for an idiot(me!)? I have a small server, and I'll likely screw something up, I just want to back up the 1mb or so of setting files I have, just incase.
[02:48] <mattheas_> 7.10
[02:48] <psmith> mattheas_:  just a second let me pull up the correct directions ok?
[02:48] <mattheas_> k
[02:48] <Stewie_Griffin> mattheas_, system->administration->network
[02:49] <Stewie_Griffin> :)
[02:49] <bazhang> mattheas_: please pastebin the results of lspci (not here but in pastebin)
[02:49] <Stewie_Griffin> !pastebin | mattheas_ just incase