[03:32] <AhmedShaheen> I search for a package or Lib but found nothing
[03:32] <sehe> are you sure it is a feature of amarok then?
[03:32] <hydrogen> you probably need to do it manually AhmedShaheen
[03:33] <hydrogen> it doesn't appear that kubuntu packages the amarok-helix engine
[03:33] <hydrogen> err
[03:33] <hydrogen> or maybe its in amarok-engines
[03:33] <sehe> hydrogen:  nope can't find it
[03:33] <AhmedShaheen> i'll try again using amarok0engines
[03:34] <runlevelten> don't search for what you think the package may be called. You'll almost always be wrong.
[03:34] <sehe> runlevelten: are you talking to anyone in specific
[03:35] <AhmedShaheen> I installed a package called amarok-engines
[03:36] <sehe> any luck?
[03:36] <AhmedShaheen> but I didn't found any thing changed in the amarok engine lists
[03:36] <hydrogen> ah
[03:36] <hydrogen> its a meta package
[03:36] <hydrogen> that installs only availible engines
[03:36] <hydrogen> which happens to be only xine on kubuntu
[03:36] <hydrogen> your going to have to build from source
[03:37] <AhmedShaheen> where is the source package
[03:37] <hydrogen> amarok.kde.org
[03:38] <stdin> AhmedShaheen: you can also try asking in #amarok
[03:38] <FallenHitokiri> how can I convert postscript file to pdf?
[03:39] <sehe> FallenHitokiri: ps2pdf
[03:39] <FallenHitokiri> sehe: in which package is it?
[03:39] <llutz> gs-common
[03:39] <FallenHitokiri> thanks
[03:39] <AhmedShaheen> Hydrogen : Do you mean that I must compile and install amarok package itself ?
[03:40] <hydrogen> AhmedShaheen: yes
[03:40] <AhmedShaheen> aha
[03:41] <AhmedShaheen> and then I'll find the amarok-helix engine ?
[03:41] <hydrogen> if you have installed the helix headers
[03:41] <hydrogen> and configure amarok with the --enable-helix option
[03:42] <hydrogen> I think thats right.. do a ./configure --help
[03:42] <AhmedShaheen> ok
[03:42] <FallenHitokiri> ps2pdf segfaults (core dump) :( and if I try to print a pdf with the preinstalled pdf-printer I only get a "Abnormal process termination"
[03:42] <AhmedShaheen> I'll try
[03:49] <maverick> does anyone know "TRUE COMBAT ELITE" game?
[03:49] <BluesKaj> AhmedShaheen, the amarok engine is called xine-engine , which is also used for audio by the kaffeine player
[03:50] <AhmedShaheen> BluesKaj : Thanks , but my problem is playing Realmedia files this amarok
[03:50] <AhmedShaheen> I installed Realplay & Helix
[03:51] <AhmedShaheen> I give xine the codecs path for Realmedia
[03:51] <AhmedShaheen> but xine still not playing realmedia filesd
[03:51] <AhmedShaheen> files*
[03:52] <BluesKaj> usually the helix player runs by itself , not in amarok , from my experience , realplayer is very proprietary
[03:53] <AhmedShaheen> I used  the realplayer engine in amarok before when I was using Fedora
[03:53] <BluesKaj> !helix
[03:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about helix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <AhmedShaheen> ok thanks all
[03:56] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: Helix is open source.
[03:56] <runlevelten> ie: the basis of RealPlayer on Linux :)
[03:56] <BluesKaj> yes, but realplayer rm files are coded by realcodecs
[03:57] <AhmedShaheen> yes, but helix can't play realmedia files
[03:57] <Dr_Link> So. How long does the Kubuntu LiveCD (one free disk) usually take to be distributed?
[03:57] <AhmedShaheen> also Realplayer can play MP3
[03:57] <Dr_Link> I'm in the US, living in South Carolina.
[03:57] <runlevelten> AhmedShaheen: I remember discussion of issues with amarok-helix - consider checking that up before you chase it down.
[03:57] <stdin> Dr_Link: few weeks
[03:57] <faires> Does anyone knows how to able soundkonverter to encode mp3 files?
[03:57] <Dr_Link> Assuming about 4-6. right?
[03:58] <faires> Do I have to install other libs, or something alike?
[03:58] <runlevelten> AhmedShaheen: I play all that stuff without amarok-helix.
[03:58] <runlevelten> I have RealPlayer, mind you - it's good software on Linux, NOTHING like on windows.
[03:58] <AhmedShaheen> runlevelten : what's wrong I have made ?
[03:58] <Dr_Link> Somehow, all of the ISOs I do end up being unbootable. I could only get an Ubuntu ISO going. Kubuntu and Fedora? nope. :(
[03:58] <runlevelten> also
[03:58] <runlevelten> !mp3
[03:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:58] <BluesKaj> well, anyone trying deal with realplayer and it's progeny is in for grief using windows or linux IMO :P
[03:59] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: Superstition.
[03:59] <runlevelten> Realplayer is absolutely fine on Linux and has been for years.
[03:59] <runlevelten> No spying, no nasties in startup - it really isn't like the rightly lambasted windows version.
[03:59] <BluesKaj> ok, if you like real-stuff
[04:00] <runlevelten> I wouldn't touch it on windows, and I've actively banned it as an admin on windows.
[04:00] <runlevelten> Conversely, I've been using it to view BBC news on linux for many years.
[04:00] <BluesKaj> II've stayed away from realplayer etc for yrs due it's agressive nature on windows i guess
[04:01] <runlevelten> Of course, why wouldn't you? It's horrendous on windows.
[04:01] <BluesKaj> Yeah, when is the BBC gonna wake up :)
[04:01] <runlevelten> Well to be fair, for years Real was the only real cross-platform and performant streaming solution.
[04:01] <BluesKaj> I do like the BBC  RSS feeds tho
[04:02] <runlevelten> They could have used windows media, but used real instead.
[04:02] <BluesKaj> wonder if konq will play BBC video ?
[04:02] <runlevelten> From a support perspective, I'd have to inform people, realplayer's reputation on windows doesn't inform you about the linux software.
[04:03] <runlevelten> s/inform/tell
[04:04] <faires> Sorry, I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats, but my soundKonverter still doesn't accept mp3 as "output format"
[04:05] <faires> Does someone knows what esle can I try?
[04:05] <BluesKaj> watching BBC using kaffeine/windows media plugin
[04:05] <pag> faires, you have lame installed?
[04:05] <runlevelten> faires: you need lame
[04:05] <faires> pag: I do think so, but let me check
[04:06] <faires> duh, I hadn't... :(
[04:06] <faires> Sorry
[04:06] <faires> pag runlevelten: thanks a lot...
[04:07] <stdin> faires: I think it also needs ffmpeg
[04:07] <vordme34> Hello, I'm new to Kubuntu and I have a weird problem with adept_installer. It worked fine till now but it says that it's locked .. probably a conflict with apt-get or aptitude?
[04:08] <runlevelten> !adeptfix
[04:08] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:08] <vordme34> thnx guyz!
[04:08] <runlevelten> np :)
[04:08] <runlevelten> !botsnack
[04:08] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:09] <BluesKaj> hehe :)
[04:10] <solarwaver> is anyone knows i set opengl
[04:10] <solarwaver> ?
[04:10] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, BBC seems gives us the option (international visitors) to use the windows media option 9kaffeine
[04:11] <BluesKaj> err kaffeine
[04:12] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: Possibly to be the only option soon, since the BBC became Microsoft salespeople.
[04:13] <BluesKaj> Wow , runlevelten...pushing MS eh
[04:14] <combo> WTF?! i installed ATI drivers from here (http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide); it shows 'Direct Rendering: YES' but it doesn't work anyway :|
[04:14] <solarwaver> is anyone knows i set opengl ?
[04:14] <runlevelten> They're promoting it by requiring it to view content the viewers have already paid for. Disgusting and corrupt, and will hopefully be averted.
[04:15] <runlevelten> Not by the Director General though, since he enjoys being wined and dined by Microsoft in the USA^w9 fact-finding too much.
[04:15] <BluesKaj> similar to the print mags  PC Magazine & PC World content is 99% MS ..very little mention of Linux in either , on which I have let the subscriptions run out.
[04:16] <runlevelten> I don't care. In my country, TV watchers line the pockets of the BBC and pay for their programs, or go to prison.
[04:16] <runlevelten> Anyway.
[04:16] <BluesKaj> ??
[04:16] <BluesKaj> it's that corrupt ?
[04:17] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: You have to pay a TV license by law to watch programs on your telly. The money funds the BBC.
[04:17] <runlevelten> solarwaver: what you need help with?
[04:17] <stdin> stdin@#kubuntu:~$ cat BluesKaj runlevelten | sudo tee -a #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:18] <BluesKaj> the CBC here is gov't funded as well, by our taxes ..and it uses windows media as well
[04:19] <solarwaver> is anyone knows i set opengl ?
[04:19] <runlevelten> solarwaver: what do you mean by "set opengl"?
[04:20] <germaine> hey run   i have donwload flash_player_9_linux.tar  on my desk  how to make   the files is in code source
[04:20] <solarwaver> i have a nvidia geforce 4 mx 440 128 do u know why i can't play 3d games?
[04:20] <germaine> i must the decompressed
[04:21] <runlevelten> germaine: right click and choose "extract here"
[04:22] <runlevelten> solarwaver: can you do glxinfo | grep endor
[04:22] <BluesKaj> germaine , there is a how to here
[04:22] <BluesKaj> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[04:22] <solarwaver> i do that in console?
[04:22] <BluesKaj> yes
[04:22] <BluesKaj> oops
[04:24] <solarwaver> i do and it said me "mising on display
[04:24] <solarwaver> i do and it said me "mising on display" what is that?
[04:27] <solarwaver> runlevelten i do and it said me "mising on display" what is that?
[04:28] <solarwaver> runlevelten it show me that
[04:28] <solarwaver> lib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:28] <solarwaver> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:28] <solarwaver> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:28] <solarwaver> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[04:28] <solarwaver> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:29] <solarwaver> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:29] <solarwaver> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:29] <solarwaver> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:29] <solarwaver> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:29] <solarwaver> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:29] <solarwaver> bash: grependor: command not found
[04:29] <solarwaver> u know how i can fix it?
[04:29] <gilad> Hi, I've got a problem I cant wach DVD on my newly installed Kubuntu. anyone knows how to fix it?
[04:29] <runlevelten> not grependor,
[04:30] <Ahmuck> is there a way to adjust sound levels in kubuntu?
[04:30] <runlevelten> but never mind that
[04:30] <Ahmuck> beyond the mixer?  the mixer is really a low level adjustment
[04:30] <solarwaver> runlevelten i do it now
[04:31] <runlevelten> can you do: grep nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:31] <solarwaver> i do it now u keep tell me
[04:32] <arun> hello runlevelten
[04:32] <runlevelten> hi arun
[04:32] <solarwaver> it show  me that
[04:32] <BluesKaj> gilad, install, libdvdcss2 and libxine-extracodecs
[04:32] <Arwen> Why am I getting 24MB/s sustained read/write on my Ubuntu partition but 50MB/s sustained read/write on my Windows partition?
[04:32] <solarwaver>  Driver          "nv"
[04:32] <Arwen> I keep hearing about how ext3 is superior to NTFS, so what's the deal?
[04:33] <runlevelten> Right, so you don't have nvidia drivers installed.
[04:33] <runlevelten> !nvidia
[04:33] <gilad> BluesKaj: do it via apt get ?
[04:33] <BluesKaj> gilad, and to cover all the bases install w32codecs as well
[04:33] <solarwaver> i have passed nvidia glx
[04:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:33] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[04:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:33] <solarwaver> i have see that
[04:34] <chx_> hi. i have an xmodmap , i put it into /etc/XX/Xmodmap but keys specified there do not work under KDE. Where could I put a script so it's used?
[04:34] <soulrider> hello
[04:34] <runlevelten> solarwaver. Install "restricted-manager" using adept.
[04:34] <arun> is there  a gnome equivalent to korganizer?
[04:34] <gilad> BluesKaj: i'll try - thanx!
[04:34] <solarwaver> ok
[04:34] <soulrider> im trying to update my kernel but initramfs wont configure because i dont have enough space in my partition. is there a way for me to remove my RUNNING kernel so i can configure the new one ?
[04:34] <solarwaver> i do it now and then?
[04:35] <runlevelten> It's done?
[04:35] <runlevelten> solarwaver: You have definitely installed it and finished, yes?
[04:35] <BluesKaj> gilad, make sure your multiverse universe sources are uncommented in the sources.list
[04:35] <runlevelten> solarwaver: right, now press alt F2 and type restricted-manager
[04:36] <pag> soulrider, chroot from livecd maybe?
[04:36] <soulrider> pag: i got a working gentoo installation
[04:36] <contradiction-pi> hi, i have a really bizarre problem with kde on kubuntu 7.04. whenever i go to the System Settings->Monitor & Display and change the resolution, it says that the settings have been changed, and if i'd like to keep them, but it hasn't actually changed the resolution. so, now i'm stuck at 640x480. how do i actually change the res?
[04:36] <soulrider> pag: the problem seems to eb i dont ahve enough space for my current kernel AND the new one at the same time
[04:37] <soulrider> pag: when i dpkg --configure it, do the files generated and that are to be copied remain somewhere? i could boot into gentoo, remove this kernel and forcefuly copy the new one... although it seems like a bad idea
[04:37] <soulrider> hola tombar__, otro de uruguay :)
[04:37] <pag> soulrider, hmm... I dunno then - sounds too complicated for me :/
[04:38] <pag> !fixres | contradiction-pi
[04:38] <ubotu> contradiction-pi: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:38] <soulrider> pag: and how about removing the running kernel? =/ or will that lead to even more issues?
[04:39] <solarwaver> runlevelten i do it
[04:39] <gilad> BluesKaj: I'm sorry but I'm kinda new at this how do I uncomment the multiverse universe sources?
[04:39] <BluesKaj> soulrider, perhaps you should make a choice which distro to use exclusively :)
[04:39] <runlevelten> solarwaver: what did you do, exactly?
[04:39] <soulrider> BluesKaj: i want both :P
[04:39] <solarwaver> i pass restrected manager
[04:39] <runlevelten> pass?
[04:39] <solarwaver> i install it with adept
[04:39] <runlevelten> What do you mean by that?
[04:39] <runlevelten> Right, and now did you run it?
[04:40] <soulrider> BluesKaj: i thought a 32mB partition was gonna be enough for /boot, i never had problems with other distros =/
[04:40] <runlevelten> solarwaver: right, now press alt F2 and type restricted-manager
[04:40] <BluesKaj> gilad, my advice is to use source-o-matic for your sources.list
[04:40] <pag> soulrider, my guess is, that it'll lead to major problems, but I don't really know a thing about kernels, so don't listen to mee too carefully ;)
[04:40] <BluesKaj> !source-o-matic | gilad
[04:40] <ubotu> gilad: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:40] <solarwaver> i do it but it said that the prog isn't found
[04:40] <runlevelten> then you didn't install it.
[04:41] <soulrider> pag: i can probably make things work in gutsy now... but whats the fun in running an old kernel?  You don't have to restart
[04:43] <runlevelten> You need to check the box next to the app name in adept or synaptic, then apply your changes.
[04:43] <arun> can openoffice open .ksp documents?
[04:43] <arun> (kspread)
[04:43] <runlevelten> Simply selecting it _without_ checking the box will do nothing.
[04:43] <runlevelten> Is that what you've been doing?
[04:43] <tsdgeos> arun: i think it can not, but you can make kspread save to opendocument
[04:43] <[cellfrog] > Is there a net tools suit for linux ?
[04:44] <[cellfrog] > graphical ?
[04:44] <runlevelten> [cellfrog] : Is there ever. What are you trying to do?
[04:45] <runlevelten> solarwaver: copy and paste this into konsole: sudo apt-get install restricted-manager
[04:45] <[cellfrog] > Runlevelten: is there ?
[04:45] <runlevelten> [cellfrog] : there are gazillions of network tools. What are you trying to do?
[04:46] <solarwaver> in synaptic it show me installed and in adept
[04:46] <runlevelten> then run it.
[04:46] <[cellfrog] > runlevelten: i ment an all in one ? Thats why i mentioned suit !
[04:47] <runlevelten> Oh, you meant "suite"
[04:47] <runlevelten> I didn't get that, sorry.
[04:47] <runlevelten> [cellfrog] : well, what are you trying to do?
[04:47] <solarwaver> i do it on the console and it show me that
[04:47] <[cellfrog] > :D
[04:48] <[cellfrog] > sorry !
[04:48] <solarwaver> /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:69: GtkWarning: could not open display
[04:48] <solarwaver>   warnings.warn(str(e), _gtk.Warning)
[04:48] <solarwaver> /usr/bin/restricted-manager:243: Warning: invalid (NULL) pointer instance
[04:48] <solarwaver>   xml = gtk.glade.XML("/usr/share/restricted-manager/manager.glade")
[04:48] <solarwaver> /usr/bin/restricted-manager:243: Warning: g_signal_connect_data: assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed
[04:48] <waylandbill_> [cellfrog] : it depends what you want as to what tool to use. The tools are all there, ping, tracert, dig, nslookup... etc...
[04:48] <runlevelten> !flood
[04:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:48] <solarwaver> sorry
[04:48] <solarwaver> what now?
[04:49] <solarwaver> runlevelten
[04:49] <solarwaver> ?
[04:50] <[cellfrog] > waylandbill_:  wanted all that you mentioned plus more all in one gui app.
[04:50] <runlevelten> solarwaver: It's hard to know what's borken without knowing what you've done, and without you really being able to explain it to me... might I respectfully suggest #ubuntu-gr?
[04:51] <malqos> when i write this: sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/home/malqos/Desktop/untitled folder/bcmwl5.inf  ,  i dont  know why something like  this happend- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35116/  i dont know why this driver doesnt install
[04:51] <malqos> :(
[04:51] <Trist_an> I have a trouble wih kmail
[04:52] <waylandbill_> [cellfrog] : a front-end? I don't know as I don't use one. The right tool for the right job works just fine, so I don't need a front-end to these tools.
[04:52] <Trist_an> it seems that if someone is not in my address list his name is changed to Unkwown, the date to 1970-01-01 and I can't read the mail
[04:54] <waylandbill_> [cellfrog] : if you do some research on networking and specifically the linux tools, these tools will become second nature and you wouldn't have a need for a gui front-end to them either.
[04:55] <voln_> hello, i have trouble with my mp3 library. I uplod mp3 to my flash pleer and order of tracks is not same like in kubuntu
[04:55] <Arwen> Gah, my hard drive is 97% full. This isn't good.
[04:56] <JCDG> voin,explain yur problem again, and tell wich program yu use
[04:56] <voln_> in kubuntu 1,2,3,4 in pleer 3,4,1
[04:56] <voln_> kubuntu
[04:56] <voln_> I'm tranfering trough krusader
[04:57] <tim> hi
[04:57] <tim> im looking for some help please
[04:57] <tim> ive got a dell inpiron 1300 and can't for the life of me get the wireless working any one know how to
[04:57] <[cellfrog] > Waylandbill_: ok.. :/
[04:58] <contradiction-pi> ubotu: whenever i followed the first directions in http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto, it says that dpkg-reconfigure was not found
[04:58] <malqos> i would like to install  driver using ndiswrapper but when i write in terminal sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/home/malqos/Desktop/untitled folder/bcmwl5.inf i see this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35116/
[04:58] <malqos> why?
[04:58] <malqos> how can i install  this?
[04:59] <pag> malqos, remove the ~ from the path
[04:59] <pvdwlaptop> can i upgrade my install to kubuntu from a sidux/debian install ?
[04:59] <tim> well i followed a set of instrutions which told me to uninstall bcm45xx and form then on i cant even get the WL card to turn on
[04:59] <tim> yes you can upgrade it
[05:00] <tim> all you need ot do is download the kde counter parts for unbuntu
[05:00] <malqos> ok
[05:01] <tim> the only difference of unbuntu and kubuntu is that the kunbuntu runs with the kde desktop and has different packages installed for stuff like networking
[05:01] <pier> tracy chapman buddy guy
[05:01] <malqos> pag: still the same sudo ndiswrapper -i/home/malqos/Desktop/untitled folder/bcmwl5.inf
[05:01] <tim> can any one help me with a bcmwl5 problem?
[05:02] <pag> malqos, so the following: sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/malqos/Desktop/untitled\ folder/bcmwl5.inf
[05:02] <pag> s/so/do
[05:02] <tim> nah that dosnt work ive tried
[05:03] <tim> the bcmwl5 is being awkard with me
[05:03] <malqos> thank
[05:03] <malqos> its working
[05:03] <malqos> :)
[05:03] <greenkobold> the respository "http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security Release.gpg" is off today?
[05:05] <tim> so can any one help with a dell laptop problem
[05:07] <lotro> is there a tool where i can adjust the pitch of a song in mp3 format
[05:08] <malqos> and right now i have to copies some filest to this catalog /etc/ndiswrapper but i cant because i dont have permission. how can i copies some file  there?
[05:11] <pvdwlaptop> sudo
[05:14] <jordi> hello, I upgraded my kubuntu 6.06 LTS a few days ago since a long time and a problem with kdebase-data package raised. Does anybody had the same problem or know somwthing about it?
[05:15] <jordi> now I can't install anything cause there arae some dependencies unresolved
[05:17] <jordi> I've tried to install the .deb file with dpkg but dpkg says there is an error with the .deb file
[05:18] <jordi> the problem causes some other issues like my hard-drive becoming a read-only file system
[05:19] <jordi> Anybody has an idea about what's happening?
[05:20] <tsdgeos> jordi: can you paste the error you get exactly?
[05:21] <jordi> is in catalan
[05:21] <tsdgeos> i have no problem with that
[05:21] <hydrogen> export LC_ALL=C
[05:21] <hydrogen> and then get the error again
[05:21] <jordi> ok
[05:22] <tsdgeos> or do what hydrogen says and others will understand it too :D
[05:22] <tsdgeos> besides for pasting
[05:22] <tsdgeos> use http://rafb.net/paste/ please
[05:22] <tsdgeos> or some other paste service
[05:22] <jordi> dpkg-preconfigure: cannot connect to X server :0
[05:22] <jordi> debconf: no s'ha pogut iniciar la interfcie: Kde
[05:23] <jordi> debconf: (DISPLAY problem?)
[05:23] <jordi> debconf: s'est provant ara la interfcie: Dialog
[05:23] <jordi> (S'est llegint la base de dades ... hi ha 127053 fitxers i directoris installats actualment.)
[05:23] <jordi> S'est preparant per a reemplaar kdebase-data 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (fent servir .../kdebase-data_4%3a3.5.2-0ubuntu27.1_all.deb) ...
[05:23] <jordi> S'est desempaquetant el reemplaament de kdebase-data ...
[05:23] <jordi> dpkg: s'ha produt un error en processar /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data_4%3a3.5.2-0ubuntu27.1_all.deb (--unpack):
[05:23] <jordi>  no es pot fer stat sobre ./usr/share/applnk/.hidden/battery.desktop (que s el que s'anava a installar): Input/output error
[05:23] <jordi> dpkg-deb: el subprocs paste fou finalitzat pel senyal (Broken pipe)
[05:23] <jordi> S'han trobat errors en processar:
[05:23] <jordi>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-data_4%3a3.5.2-0ubuntu27.1_all.deb
[05:23] <jordi> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:23] <jordi> this is part of the output
[05:24] <jordi> I'm sorry, i diddn't see the link
[05:24] <tsdgeos> ;-)
[05:25] <tsdgeos> jordi: do you have enough free space?
[05:25] <jordi> Yes
[05:26] <jordi> Now i can't reproduce the error because the drive is read-only
[05:28] <jordi> I will restart
[05:32] <malqos> how can i copy files this file: /home/malqos/Desktop/untitled folder/bcmwl5.sys to /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5 using cp?how should look like the whole line?
[05:33] <jordi> sudo cp /home/malqos/Desktop/untitled folder/bcmwl5.sys /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5
[05:34] <jordi> I think this is the way
[05:34] <malqos> thanks
[05:34] <malqos> jordi: cp: cannot stat `/home/malqos/Desktop/untitled': No such file or directory
[05:34] <malqos> cp: cannot stat `folder/bcmwl5.sys': No such file or directory
[05:35] <pag> malqos, sudo cp /home/malqos/Desktop/untitled\ folder/bcmwl5.sys /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5
[05:36] <jordi> or have to remove the blankspace between untitled and /folder
[05:37] <jordi> malqos, I think pag is the right way ;)
[05:38] <malqos> yes
[05:38] <pag> "/path/to/directory with spaces/blaah" works too
[05:38] <malqos> its working
[05:38] <malqos> thanks
[05:38] <pag> and using tab-completion saves an effort :)
[05:38] <pag> !tab
[05:38] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[05:39] <jordi> yes, is a very useful tip!
[05:40] <malqos> i need this because i install wifi and when i did that and write ndiswrapper -l i get: bcmwl5 : driver installed / device (14E4:4320) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx) / drivername : invalid driver!
[05:40] <malqos> why drivename is invalid driver?
[05:45] <solarwaver> why restricted manager doesn't play?
[05:55] <Darky> i want to start a second Xserver session with xfce
[05:55] <Darky> I tried "startx -- :2 xfce"
[05:55] <Darky> can anyone help me?
[05:56] <solarwaver> why restricted manager doesn't play?
[05:58] <germaine> who know swiftfox
[05:59] <wastedfluid> hey.. i'm new to kde. I have found .kde/autostart, but where can I put a file to be ran as root?  trying to modprobe ndiswrapper.. if not, my wireless card doesn't work.
[06:01] <Darky> wastedfluid: put ndiswrapper in /etc/modules
[06:02] <wastedfluid> Darky; hold on, let me look.
[06:02] <an> hey guys,is there a suspend function on kubuntu dappar?
[06:02] <an> hey guys,is there a suspend function on kubuntu dappar?
[06:02] <wastedfluid> Darky; Wow.  much thanks.
[06:03] <an> hello? anyone?
[06:04] <ubuntu> hallo
[06:07] <Lieke> i still cant install kxdocker!
[06:08] <pag> Lieke, tried compiling it already?
[06:10] <an> hey guys,is there a suspend function on kubuntu dappar?
[06:11] <Lieke> compiling?
[06:11] <malqos_> am i on good way to install wifi on my computer? when i write this iwconfig a get: - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35126/
[06:12] <Lieke> pag, i'm realy noob in kubuntu
[06:12] <BluesKaj>  an, there is a power save mode i believe in system settings/monitor & display
[06:13] <an> blueskaj,thanku ,ill check it out
[06:13] <sioux> hi
[06:13] <pag> Lieke, http://pimpyourlinux.com/linux-feature-review/kxdocker-review/ <- those look like a fine insructions
[06:13] <BluesKaj> !compile | Lieke
[06:13] <ubotu> Lieke: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:14] <sioux> is there a italian kubuntu version?
[06:14] <Arwen> !it
[06:14] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:15] <an> blueskaj, u mena laptops&power?
[06:16] <sioux> hey kubuntu-it does not exist
[06:16] <solarwaver> is enyone knows restricted drivers manager?
[06:17] <BluesKaj> an , k-menu/sytem settings/monitor&display/power saving
[06:17] <Arwen> sioux, yeah, it's a redirect. There doesn't seem to be enough kubuntu-it users to merit a separate channel
[06:18] <sioux>  :-S
[06:18] <BluesKaj> solarwaver, sudo apt-get install restricted-manager
[06:18] <an> blueskaj,i got it ,it had been already enabled
[06:19] <BluesKaj> an, suspend , as one does in windows?
[06:19] <BluesKaj> dunno , maybe someone else knows
[06:20] <sioux> kubuntu seems have the fetures to intall all languagge except italian!
[06:20] <an> yea,i remember ubuntu has this function ,but i cant find it in kubuntu when i log out the system
[06:20] <malqos_> am i on good way to install wifi on my computer? when i write this iwconfig a get: - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35126/
[06:21] <BluesKaj> sioux, that's odd ...there must be an italian version
[06:21] <sioux> how is possible add more language to kubuntu?
[06:22] <llutz> sioux: sudo aptitude install language-pack-it kde-i18n-it
[06:22] <sioux> :-)
[06:22] <willwritenow> can i use amsn with kubuntu ?
[06:22] <willwritenow> dapper drake ?
[06:22] <pag> willwritenow, sure you can
[06:23] <willwritenow> which im do you prefer ?
[06:23] <pag> willwritenow, but I warn you: amsn *is* ugly
[06:23] <willwritenow> gaim ? amsn ? or anyother ?
[06:23] <tsdgeos> kopete
[06:23] <pag> willwritenow, I prefer Kopete - it has multiprotocol support and it integrates well with KDE
[06:23] <BluesKaj> sioux, look in system/settings/country/regional&language
[06:23] <willwritenow> do you know kopede does not support foreign chars.
[06:24] <tsdgeos> willwritenow: you are joking, right?
[06:24] <willwritenow> even i m using english chars it does not let me to login cause at my pass there is some foreign words :)
[06:24] <willwritenow> no really i m not joking.
[06:24] <willwritenow> i have kubuntu ( english ) ..
[06:24] <tsdgeos> willwritenow: which protocol?
[06:24] <willwritenow> msn
[06:24] <tsdgeos> willwritenow: have you filed a bug?
[06:24] <arun> what is the /opt folder meant for?
[06:25] <Arwen> OPTional software
[06:25] <willwritenow> no .. now i m trying to find amsn
[06:25] <Arwen> stuff that's installed by the user
[06:25] <pag> !info amsn dapper | willwritenow
[06:25] <arun> ah.. thanks Arwen
[06:25] <ubotu> willwritenow: amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[06:25] <tsdgeos> willwritenow: can i know exactly which foreign chars do you use? no need to tellme the full pwd
[06:26] <willwritenow> i with upper case.
[06:26] <tsdgeos> I ?
[06:26] <willwritenow> with dot.
[06:26] <tsdgeos> turkish?
[06:26] <willwritenow> :)
[06:26] <willwritenow> how do you know ?
[06:27] <tsdgeos> well, i got some patch for fonts i mantain to add that characters from a turkish dude
[06:27] <willwritenow> where are you orinally from ?
[06:27] <tsdgeos> catalonia
[06:27] <willwritenow> *originally
[06:27] <willwritenow> i see..
[06:27] <tsdgeos>
[06:27] <tsdgeos> :D
[06:28] <willwritenow> ehhehe :) yeap that's it :)
[06:28] <llutz>  i
[06:28] <willwritenow> :)
[06:28] <willwritenow> llutz:  :) where re u from ?
[06:28] <llutz> germany
[06:29] <willwritenow> u also worked about turkish chars before ?
[06:29] <llutz> no never, i just was wondering where to find that cahr (never had seen it before)
[06:29] <willwritenow> tsdgeos:  how do you find updated librarys for kubuntu packages ?
[06:30] <willwritenow> llutz:  so how did you type it ?
[06:30] <tsdgeos> willwritenow: you update from daper to something else
[06:30] <llutz> kcharselect did the job (copy/paste)
[06:30] <tsdgeos> willwritenow: i'm trying to setup a dummy account at hotmail and if i put a  it tells me the password has not valid characters
[06:31] <willwritenow> tsdgeos:  i mean i cant find some libraries easily.. i think thats because of the sourse.list file.
[06:31] <willwritenow> tsdgeos:  u dont need to do that :) .. maybe thats coz of my luck :)
[06:31] <willwritenow> llutz:  good job :)
[06:36] <willwritenow> anyone knows how to find good libraries for packages to add in sources.list file. ??
[06:37] <pag> !easysources | willwritenow
[06:37] <ubotu> willwritenow: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:38] <willwritenow> thank you ubotu .. will check it now..
[06:38] <willwritenow> pag what do you mean with easysources ?
[06:39] <pag> !ubotu | willwritenow, maybe that'll explain what I mean
[06:39] <ubotu> willwritenow, maybe that'll explain what I mean: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:39] <Lieke> yes i compiled pag
[06:39] <willwritenow> ahaha :)
[06:40] <willwritenow> god .. :) i luv bots :)
[06:40] <Lieke> pag, it still ain't working
[06:40] <Lieke> willwritenow: , wy?
[06:41] <willwritenow> as you see if that would not help .. none of the human beings are helpin :P
[06:41] <pag> Lieke, ok.. I'm out of ideas then.. sorry.
[06:41] <Erwin> i just got in. what's the problem?
[06:42] <Lieke> allright, pag thnx for helping anyway ^^
[06:42] <Lieke> Erwin, i cant install kxdocker
[06:43] <runlevelten> !info kxdocker
[06:43] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB
[06:43] <willwritenow> opss i have another question .. is it possible to use guarddog at kubuntu ?
[06:43] <runlevelten> why can't you install it?
[06:43] <Lieke> because it chrashes
[06:44] <runlevelten> Installation crashes, or kxdocker crashes?
[06:44] <_wintermute_> anyone running glx with an i810 chipset
[06:44] <Lieke> kxdocker
[06:45] <_wintermute_> or should i uninstall glx and go with aiglx
[06:45] <runlevelten> Ah, so you can install it. :) Now, did it crash always, or only after you configured it?
[06:45] <runlevelten> and also, did it crash immediately the very first time you ran it?
[06:45] <Lieke> yes, runlevelten, it chrashed the first time
[06:45] <combo> - can someone help with :: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35124/ :: no acceleration :(
[06:46] <pag> runlevelten, iirc the packaged version has some major flaws, that prevent it from even launching correctly
[06:46] <runlevelten> Lieke: have you tried kooldock?
[06:46] <Lieke> no
[06:46] <runlevelten> Well try that instead first :)
[06:46] <Lieke> what's kooldock?
[06:46] <runlevelten> !info kooldock
[06:46] <ubotu> kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 521 kB, installed size 964 kB
[06:47] <soulrider> hello
[06:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> apparently i did something unpleasant.
[06:47] <soulrider> Daisuke-Ido,  :(
[06:47] <Lieke> alright
[06:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> because now my only options for cpu speed are 2.00ghz and 1.60ghz
[06:47] <runlevelten> pag: to be honest, kxdocker is unstable anyway, so I doubt it's a big hit if the package is borked, heh
[06:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> it *claims* i have stepping from 800mhz to 2.0 ghz
[06:48] <Daisuke_Laptop> but nooo
[06:48] <willwritenow> heyy Do you use any firewall on kubuntu ?
[06:48] <pag> runlevelten, yup :)
[06:48] <pag> !firewall
[06:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:49] <willwritenow> thanx again pag..
[06:49] <runlevelten> the packager probably saves people the bother, ha.
[06:49] <pag> willwritenow, default settings should be ok for most of the users :)
[06:49] <Lieke> runlevelten, i installed kooldock, but how do i have to open it? i have to go to the edge of the bottom of my screen and click on my right mouse... eum nothing seems to happen :s
[06:50] <runlevelten> did you run it?
[06:50] <soulrider> guys, im trying to enable bash colors for all users, it works fine, except i have to do source /etc/profile everytime I open a new terminal to see the colors. is there any way for me or any other user to not have to type this ?
[06:50] <willwritenow> i also wanna use guarddog..
[06:50] <Lieke> oh it works!
[06:50] <Lieke> joepie ^^
[06:51] <runlevelten> Heh, in front of me I have kiba-dock, ksmoothdock, kooldock and kxdocker. Which to play with?
[06:51] <runlevelten> Support question, honest.
[06:51] <Lieke> runlevelten, do i still have to install kxdocker now?
[06:52] <runlevelten> Lieke: Nope.
[06:52] <pag> runlevelten, isn't Kicker an option? :)
[06:52] <Lieke> and how do i remove my old docker?
[06:52] <runlevelten> kicker's functional. scaley docky things are for playing with :)
[06:53] <pag> runlevelten, but to your question; if you want to play: kiba-dock  if you want something more or less usable: ksmoothdock :)
[06:53] <runlevelten> I don't use the dock even on OS X really, but I've never tried kiba-dock.
[06:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> avant-window-navigator
[06:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> quite lovely
[06:56] <pag> Daisuke_Laptop, does it work well with KDE?
[06:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> eh
[06:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> define "work well"
[06:56] <paritosh1010> adept keeps saying another package managing software is running
[06:57] <runlevelten> For a dock: shows shortcuts. Shows running applications. Allows arbitrary apps/windows to be "docked" in it.
[06:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> for the most part
[06:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> i didn't have any problems
[06:57] <runlevelten> like alltray, so when you close the app with the windec close button it just minimises to the dock.
[06:58] <pag> Daisuke_Laptop, somehow I just had a memory that AWN looked awful and didn't recognise most of the apps :O
[06:58] <runlevelten> Yeah, I had a memory of it being very 2d and pixellated.. sort of gnomey.
[06:59] <paritosh1010> adept keeps saying another package manager is running. maybe its the adept-updater, so i closed the adept manager and used the adept-updater. same thing. how do i close these things??!!
[06:59] <paritosh1010> i even restarted
[06:59] <pag> !aptfix | paritosh1010
[06:59] <ubotu> paritosh1010: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:01] <paritosh1010> pag: thanks
[07:01] <paritosh1010> pag: does that mean some package is broken?
[07:02] <ubuntu> hello
[07:02] <pag> paritosh1010, nope.. it usually just means that adept doesn't work as expected
[07:02] <paritosh1010> pag: it gave an error couldnt install tomcat5.5 before it crashed
[07:02] <paritosh1010> pag: something like could not commit charges
[07:02] <pag> paritosh1010, those errors come once in a while - you'll have to get used to them (or dump the adept; it's a smart choise :)
[07:03] <pag> paritosh1010, did " sudo dpkg --configure -a " return any errors?
[07:03] <paritosh1010> pag: yeah
[07:04] <paritosh1010> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:04] <paritosh1010>  tomcat5.5
[07:04] <pag> paritosh1010, pastebin the whole output ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org )
[07:04] <paritosh1010> !pastebin
[07:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:05] <paritosh1010> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35139/
[07:07] <noni> Hello
[07:07] <pag> isn't JDK a java-thingy?
[07:07] <paritosh1010> pag: yeah
[07:07] <noni> i cant get myth installed backend....
[07:07] <pag> paritosh1010, you have java installed and configured?
[07:07] <pag> !java | paritosh1010
[07:07] <ubotu> paritosh1010: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:07] <paritosh1010> pag: yeah, well i installed it after tomcat
[07:07] <paritosh1010> so i should try installing tomcat again?
[07:08] <pag> paritosh1010, try removing tomcat and installing it again
[07:08] <paritosh1010> pag: ok. thanks
[07:11] <paritosh1010> pag: why does it keep saying there was an error committing charges
[07:11] <Lieke> how do i change the pictograms of kooldock?
[07:11] <greenday_> hey i m using automatix and it was stopped while it was installing java for firefox :) another bug. - cant say " accept " and its waiting :)
[07:11] <paritosh1010> pag: changes*
[07:11] <NickPresta> !automatix
[07:11] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[07:11] <pag> paritosh1010, try sudo dpkg -r tomboy
[07:12] <paritosh1010> pag: it isnt installed
[07:12] <paritosh1010> tomcat u mean?
[07:12] <pag> paritosh1010, yeah, sorry :P
[07:13] <paritosh1010> pag: synaptic is less buggy
[07:13] <Lieke> how do i change icons of kooldock?
[07:14] <pag> paritosh1010, yup. and apt is rock solid :)
[07:14] <paritosh1010> apt is cl though isnt it?
[07:14] <pag> Lieke, umm.. right click -> edit?
[07:14] <pag> paritosh1010, yes it is :)
[07:14] <greenday_> hey i have installed firefox by using automatix but cant work it :( ..
[07:15] <greenday_> any commands for firefox to work ?
[07:15] <Lieke> yes, but does the image can be .jpg?
[07:15] <BluesKaj> greenday_, type firefox in the konsole
[07:15] <pag> Lieke, .jpg doesn't always work.. try .png instead
[07:15] <Lieke> tnx pag :)
[07:16] <greenday_> BluesKaj: its says " command not found " also automatix says " firefox was installed " ..
[07:16] <BluesKaj> relogin greenday_
[07:16] <Artimus> Has anyone used Guarddog before?  I've always used iptables by hand.  Any "gotchas" for an advanced iptables user?  My Kubuntu box isn't plugged in at the moment, I'll be trying it out tonight.
[07:17] <BluesKaj> !automatix | greenday_
[07:17] <ubotu> greenday_: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[07:17] <Lieke> pag, doesn't work neither :(
[07:18] <BluesKaj> greenday_, firefox is in the adept pkg manager, that's how you should install it
[07:18] <pag> Lieke, dunno then.. I'm not familiar with docks :\
[07:18] <Lieke> nvm ^^
[07:19] <greenday_> BluesKaj:  thanx .. now i m trying to install it again by using pkg manager.
[07:19] <greenday_> btw i dont prefer automatix .. .
[07:19] <BluesKaj> you don't need automatix
[07:20] <greenday_> it has some options like installing java support .. etc for firefox.. coz of that i hv used it.
[07:20] <greenday_> but problems :)
[07:20] <BluesKaj> you can install java with adept too
[07:20] <greenday_> 'll try :)
[07:25] <elvirolo2> hi all
[07:25] <combo> the active partition is called primary, isn't it ? :]
[07:26] <elvirolo2> i have a Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG wifi card, and it used to be detected (as eth1) but now it isn't anymare
[07:27] <paritosh1010> pag: how do you clean an unclean installation
[07:27] <pag> paritosh1010, huh?  sudo apt-get remove --purge packege  ?
[07:27] <joey382> what's the easiest way to recursively download all of the files on a romote server? when I ftp my server and mget it only gets all the files without getting the sud directories
[07:28] <joey382> sub**
[07:28] <paritosh1010> pag: well, sudo apt-get install keeps saying theres stuff to install. but sudo apt-get remove foo says foo isnt installed
[07:28] <arun> I have downgraded one of my packages (ttf-dejavu).   I'm trying to set up file sharing.  I have samba installed, but when I go to the sharing system settings applet it still says I need to install the smb and nfs servers.  Is that another package?  I can't seem to find it.
[07:38] <maverick> enemy territory...anyone played it?
[07:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> BluesKaj: i did.
[07:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> was wondering why i couldn't switch power management modes.
[07:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> i was on AC power.
[07:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> anyway, i'm gone for now
[07:40] <BluesKaj> Ennui, smb server is aka samba , you can ainstall samba andd smb client with adept or synaptic or apt if you wish
[07:41] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Laptop, uhhm...ok :)
[07:42] <Ennui> Thanks blues...actually I just found the answer before you said it...I did an upgrade to feisty and this was a known issue.  You have to use apt as adept doesn't uninstall everything you need...then you can resinstall it.
[07:42] <BluesKaj> well, time to wax the vehicle ...bbl
[07:43] <phoenixz> Hi there, I just tried to install KDE4 base with adept manager, but it wont, it tells me there is a problem, and after that, I see KDE4 base and KDE4 admin as BROKEN.. How can I get some more info on it, why did it fail, etc?
[07:44] <phoenixz> Or.. How can I find out WHY trying a to install package in adept manager fails? It only tells me that it fails, and then that its BROKEN.. but it does not tell me why..
[07:44] <Lynoure> phoenixz: Those are not even in standard feisty repositories, I think...
[07:46] <phoenixz> Lynoure, dunno.. but the point is: I try to install it, and adept manager says there is "an error".. thats like a windows message, something went wrong.. okay, great, but WHAT went wrong? if I know that, I might be able to fix it
[07:46] <phoenixz> Lynoure, no flame intended by the way..
[07:47] <mdr> whats the linux equivalent ipconfig /release /renew
[07:47] <phoenixz> mdr ifdown eth0; ifup eth0
[07:48] <llutz> mdr: sudo dhclient3 <iface>
[07:51] <d03boy> wireless assistant is sucking
[07:51] <d03boy> it wont connect to my wep ap
[07:51] <|biovore|> knetworkmanger
[07:52] <knulfine> can someone give me the link for the german chan
[07:52] <knulfine> ?
[07:52] <llutz> !de
[07:52] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:52] <knulfine> thx
[07:53] <Lynoure> phoenixz: I meant that it's really hard to help you without knowing where your packages are from. I don't know how to get adept to be more verbose, but apt-get and aptitude have verbose flags, I think
[07:53] <phoenixz> Lynoure, Ah, then I can try those
[08:01] <esra_> hey from turkey
[08:04] <esra_> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[08:05] <esra_> is there anybody ?
[08:06] <tsdgeos> there is
[08:07] <Level15> hey
[08:07] <Level15> dumb question...
[08:07] <esra_> hi
[08:07] <esra_> i'm esin
[08:07] <esra_> from turkey
[08:07] <Level15> my ktorrent's info bar (the thing below showing me the files, peers, etc) for each torrent disappeared... any idea how to get it back?
[08:09] <drif> Level15: did you happen to resize it?
[08:09] <Level15> drif i thought so, but no, it's not down there hiding...
[08:10] <phoenixz> I just installed KDE4 with adept manager, but it does not show up in my login screen.. What package do I have to install do that I can select KDE4 in my login screen?
[08:11] <drif> Level15: I'd still try - it took me several tries before it catched/snapped the right position
[08:11] <Level15> drif: hm, ok, i'll try it a little bit more...
[08:13] <drif> Level15: screen capture might help to estimate your situation
[08:14] <phoenixz> Do I have to configure something special to use KDE4?
[08:14] <Level15> drif: ok, sec
[08:15] <Level15> !pastebin
[08:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:17] <amnesiac_hackers> hai folks
[08:18] <phoenixz> hi
[08:18] <amnesiac_hackers> hi poenix
[08:18] <drif> anyone here with HP w2207 sitting on desk?
[08:19] <amnesiac_hackers> not me diff
[08:19] <amnesiac_hackers> damn somebody stole my nick
[08:20] <amnesiac_hackers> hmm
[08:20] <logixoul> how do I disable the folder entering zoom-feedback in konq?
[08:20] <phoenixz> Anyone here who could help with getting KDE4 to work? I already installed it, but how can I login with KDE4??
[08:22] <c0demonkeys> out of here see ya all later
[08:22] <Jahman> hi
[08:23] <intelikey> network hardware issue    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39189
[08:23] <intelikey> network hardware issue    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39189
[08:23] <intelikey> anyone know what i missed ?
[08:24] <Level15> intelikey: sure it's eth1? try ifconfig -a
[08:25] <drif> intelikey: what makes it eth1?
[08:25] <intelikey> sorry ?   doesn't that assume /etc/network/interfaces is configured ?
[08:26] <intelikey> drif the fact that i'm talking to you on eth0  ???
[08:26] <drif> intelikey: or did you grep those lsmod and lspci?
[08:26] <phoenixz> After my last adept full upgrade, firefox won't start anymore.. Anything I can do to find out why?
[08:26] <intelikey> only two eth  one onboard and one card   i'm talking on the onboard and i assume the card is eth1
[08:27] <Bauldrick> ktorrent is really slow have ports open what else?
[08:28] <intelikey> leve|15 OK I see what -a is supposed to do...  and no it's not listed.
[08:28] <BluesKaj> Bauldrick, check the DL rate settings
[08:28] <drif> Bauldrick: bad trackers?
[08:29] <logixoul> Guys, how do I disable the effect on opening a folder in Konqueror?
[08:29] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39190
[08:30] <Bauldrick> blues > I had set max up/download the wrong way round?!! still not very quick though
[08:30] <megalomaniac> on one machine i have this problem on another i dont:
[08:30] <megalomaniac> while compiling i receive this message: checking version of gcc... 4.1.2, bad
[08:31] <megalomaniac> i need gcc3.3 which has been installed...
[08:31] <megalomaniac> do i need a pointer somewhere
[08:31] <phoenixz> Anyone who could help me with a dead firefox after a full upgrade with adept?
[08:32] <Level15> phoenixz: what do you get after yourun firefox on konsole?
[08:34] <phoenixz> Level15, tried it.. nothing.. just type firefox, enter.. and then nothing.. the cursor just waits on the the next line
[08:34] <Level15> hey, anyone got a kde update yesterday and now ktorrent doesn't show some info down?
[08:34] <intelikey> sounds like it's opening off screen
[08:35] <phoenixz> intelikey, You are talking about FF?
[08:35] <intelikey> is there a ff itom in the task list    yes   maximize it
[08:35] <Level15> phoenixz: i'd recommend you check for stalled firefox processes, kill them if necessary, then run it again. if it doesn't work, try moving your .firefox dir to .firefox.old and run again
[08:35] <phoenixz> Level15, Already done that.. kill -9 `pgrep firefox`
[08:36] <Level15> phoenixz: what about damaged profile?
[08:36] <phoenixz> Level15, and moving the .firefox dir is like loosing everything, bookmarks, plugins, etc?
[08:36] <phoenixz> Level15, How could I check that?
[08:36] <intelikey> phoenixz yes ^
[08:36] <Level15> phoenixz: yeah
[08:37] <phoenixz> Is there a way to see what caused the problem?
[08:37] <brycew> Can someone please help me with mounting my external hard drive?
[08:37] <Lynoure> phoenixz: yes, but if it helps, you can move them back bit by bit
[08:38] <Lynoure> phoenixz: yes, there are ways, but most find them confusing. Ever used strace?
[08:38] <phoenixz> Lynoure, Nope.. but there is always a time to start :)
[08:38] <intelikey> s/l trace
[08:39] <phoenixz> but let me start with just moving files then..
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> brycew: yep.. just say the problem
[08:39] <megalomaniac> brycew : use the mount command in terminal
[08:39] <brycew> I'm trying to use what I was told the original time..... sudo pmount /dev/sda1 and it usually pulls it up, but today its saying mount point auto does not exist :S
[08:40] <evgen> hi all
[08:41] <llutz> brycew: create it then and don't use sudo with pmount
[08:41] <Lynoure> phoenixz: I'm a bit tired to explain it (getting late here), but basicly, start firefox with   strace -s 100 -f firefox   and see where it gets stuck  (pastebin if needed)
[08:41] <brycew> so just go pmount /dev/sda1?
[08:41] <logixoul> Guys, how do I disable the effect on opening a folder in Konqueror?
[08:42] <BluesKaj> logixoul, 'effect' ?
[08:42] <brycew> Using "pmount /dev/sda1" informs me that "only root can mount /dev/sda1 on auto"
[08:43] <logixoul> BluesKaj: the icon quickly zooms in before entering the folder
[08:43] <phoenixz> Lynoure, actually.. just moved the .mozilla dir.. and it still doesnt start.. Guess the install is damaged or someting
[08:43] <llutz> brycew: so you have a fstab-entry for sda1?
[08:43] <Lynoure> phoenixz: that's more reason to trace, not less, but you can opt to reinstall first, if you feel like it
[08:43] <brycew> llutz: I don't even know what that is lol
[08:43] <phoenixz> Lynoure, I'll try that, would be easier
[08:45] <Lynoure> phoenixz: tracing is not difficult, intepreting the results can be
[08:45] <phoenixz> Lynoure, That, I do know :)
[08:45] <jordi__> How do I do to have klipper started everytime I switch on my machine?
[08:46] <logixoul> jordi__: open klipper and quit it. You will be asked if you want it to autostart
[08:46] <Arwen> on Linux, I can create an ISO from a CD by just using dd, right?
[08:46] <BluesKaj> logixoul, try system settings/appearance/advanced/set effect
[08:47] <jordi__> ok logixoul, I've done it. Now i will reboot and inform about;-)
[08:47] <brycew> The other day I asked in here why my pmount wasn't mounted everytime I started up my computer, I had to run the pmount command to get my external hard drive to register everytime I start up.  Asked how I could get it mounted everytime and someone told me to go to "System Settings" and then to "Disk & Filesystems", click "USB Partition" and mount it in the "media/sda1", enable, save, and it will run everytime I start my computer.... But I
[08:47] <brycew> shutdown yesterday, started up today adn now I can't get my external hard drive to open no matter what :-S
[08:47] <logixoul> BluesKaj: nope, that's just the colorization
[08:47] <BluesKaj> gotta go ...bbl
[08:48] <logixoul> see ya BluesKaj
[08:49] <phoenixz> Lynoure, Reinstall did it.. I'll try that strace some time later... Thanks!
[08:50] <brycew> Can someone please help me with my External Hard Drive problem???
[08:50] <logixoul> brycew: Just state the problem!!!
[08:50] <Lynoure> phoenixz: it's quite fun. Using it is a bit like having an ant terrarium. =)
[08:51] <phoenixz> Lynoure, by god, why didn't you say so before? :)
[08:51] <brycew> I cannot get my external hard drive to open up using the mount command... I was told to oepn it using "pmount /dev/sda1" so I can listen to my music on it, but it's saying mount not found :S
[08:53] <Lynoure> phoenixz: well, nothing stopping you from using it on whatever, but programs that hang are by far most satistying :)
[08:53] <jordi__> hey logixoul, the klipper issue is resolved, precious innformation!!! :-))
[08:54] <logixoul> hehe :)
[08:54] <phoenixz> Lynoure, I'll be sure to use that more on problematic programs yeah
[08:54] <logixoul> jordi__: btw, you didn't really need to reboot - you could've simply logged out and then in ;)
[08:55] <jordi__> Sure, one more experience in my life
[08:56] <brycew> Can someone Please help me with my above question?
[08:57] <cloakable> !patience | brycew
[08:57] <ubotu> brycew: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:57] <logixoul> brycew: what's the EXACT error msg?
[08:58] <intelikey> brycew being usb it's probably not sda this time   try sdb1
[08:58] <brycew> "mount point does not exist" but every other day I've been able to use the command and now it doesn't work :S
[08:59] <brycew> intelikey: device "pmount /dev/sdb1/" does not exist.
[08:59] <intelikey> brycew ok     cat /proc/partitions
[09:00] <intelikey> don't flood    just look for a sd   something in there
[09:00] <logixoul> brycew: there's difference between /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb1/ - use the former.
[09:00] <intelikey> ah good eye logixoul
[09:00] <brycew> didn't work logixoul
[09:00] <logixoul> 8)
[09:00] <logixoul> 8(
[09:01] <brycew> intelikey: I did the command you said... gave me a list of things
[09:01] <logixoul> brycew: same error msg?
[09:02] <intelikey> brycew yes look through the list    find the partition you want and mount it
[09:02] <brycew> intelikey: Nope... it gave me .... "Major minor #blocks name" with a list of different partitions? below.
[09:02] <brycew> there's an sda and sda1
[09:02] <intelikey> ok sda1 is the partition
[09:02] <intelikey> now   ls /media
[09:03] <intelikey> that's   lower case L S
[09:03] <intelikey> is there any sda1 in there ?
[09:03] <brycew> wouldn't I type ls /media/sda1?
[09:03] <intelikey> no
[09:03] <intelikey>  ls /media
[09:03] <brycew> yes there is sda1
[09:04] <intelikey> ok    pmount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[09:04] <intelikey> what does that say ?
[09:04] <brycew> type all that in there, space between sda1 /media?
[09:04] <intelikey> yes
[09:05] <brycew> It says the following:...
[09:06] <brycew> "Warning: device /dev/sda1 is already handled by /etc/fstab, supplied label is ignored."......."mount: only root can mount /dev/sda1 on auto"
[09:06] <intelikey> ok looks like fstab is hosed     pastebin your /etc/fstab
[09:06] <intelikey> !pastebin
[09:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:07] <Sheling> Evening, all.
[09:07] <brycew> so what exactly do I do then?
[09:07] <intelikey> you can display it with     cat /etc/fstab      then copy and paste into a pastebin page
[09:07] <brycew> ok
[09:08] <intelikey> then give us the url it gives you   so we can view it.
[09:08] <brycew> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35155/
[09:08] <brycew> That's really cool intelikey thanks for telling me about that pastebin lol
[09:09] <intelikey> brycew ok line eleven  reads "/dev/sda1  auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0"  should be  "/dev/sda1 /media/sda1 auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0"
[09:09] <Sheling> Can I bother someone for some advice / instructions on how to get any kind of internet radio software working on KDE?
[09:10] <intelikey> brycew kdesu kate /etc/fstab      and fix it
[09:10] <Sheling> (Apologies for interrupting)
[09:10] <intelikey> Sheling just ask and if anyone present can answer they will
[09:10] <template_editor>    ?
[09:11] <Sheling> Cool - thank you.
[09:11] <logixoul> template_editor: I can't read what you wrote
[09:11] <flexi-spec> it was in russian
[09:11] <logixoul> template_editor: try English
[09:11] <logixoul> ah
[09:11] <template_editor> bugaga you should not see that gg
[09:11] <brycew> intelikey: It opened a new window, "fstab [modified]  - Kate" and ran a whole bunch of commands (or something) in my terminal after I typed it.
[09:12] <Sheling> In short, I've been on KDE for 8 months, and love it. But have been invited to DJ for an online station that uses SAM to a Shoutcast server. I've tried Darkice, IceCast and Muse - I don't know enough to know where I'm going wrong, and I refuse to shift back to XP just for this one single purpose (and live without Amarok!)
[09:12] <template_editor> anybody know how i can patch kde on frebsd?
[09:12] <intelikey> brycew ?
[09:12] <intelikey> kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[09:12] <intelikey> ???
[09:13] <brycew> Yes, I typed that in just like that
[09:13] <Sheling> If someone wants to field this in a side channel or over Skype, I'd be hugely grateful.
 are u kidding?
[09:13] <brycew> Now the last line in the terminal says "kbuildsycoca running..." and a new window popped up called "fstab - kate" with a bunch of text in the window that I can modify
[09:13] <Distro^Junkie> well so far so good for installation of 7.10
[09:14] <Distro^Junkie> doing updates right now

[09:14] <intelikey> brycew and it did what ?   it should have opened a dialog asking for password  "or not"   and then opened the editor "kate" with the fstab file loaded into it
[09:14] <Lynoure> template_editor: ask on #kde or #freebsd if you are not kidding, this channel is for kubuntu support
[09:14] <brycew> Yes, it did just that.
[09:15] <logixoul> or #kde-freebsd :)
[09:15] <brycew> intelikey: It did it all... now I have that kate window open
[09:15] <blekos> hi, is there an equivelant for acdsee?
[09:15] <flexi-spec> or #anime )))
[09:15] <logixoul> :p
[09:15] <template_editor> or may be #kde-frebsd-ktulhu-question ?
[09:15] <intelikey> brycew and you corrected the mistake in line 11 ?
[09:15] <logixoul> blekos: ShowFoto, Digikam, GwenView, Kuickshow
[09:15] <brycew> OK... doing that now
[09:16] <logixoul> blekos: http://osalt.com
[09:16] <blekos> thnx
[09:16] <brycew> OK... copy and pasted over the line that was wrong... what do I do now, save?
[09:16] <logixoul> np
[09:17] <Distro^Junkie> anyone here running 7.10 test 5 ?
[09:17] <intelikey> brycew yes save and exit
[09:17] <NickPresta> Distro^Junkie, #kubuntu+1
[09:17] <Distro^Junkie> brb
[09:17] <NickPresta> !gutsy | Distro^Junkie
[09:17] <ubotu> Distro^Junkie: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[09:17] <intelikey> brycew and pmount should now work
[09:17] <Distro^Junkie> thanx NickPresta
[09:17] <bauer> Howto install libXext on my pretty new ubuntu ?-)
[09:18] <NickPresta> !info libXext
[09:18] <ubotu> Package libxext does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:18] <brycew> intelikey: so now I type in pmount /dev/sda1/ and it says error, device does not exist.
[09:18] <intelikey> brycew yes...                   ok now back to my own issue...
[09:18] <template_editor> linux suxx ,windows forever, bye loosers
[09:19] <logixoul> haha
[09:19] <drif> yeah long live vista and prosper..lol
[09:19] <NickPresta> how sad...
[09:19] <logixoul> we didn't see THAT coming... ;)
[09:19] <drif> I think vista has done us favour :D people from right and left are fleeing to *nix direction
[09:20] <llutz> drif: that's not a favour
[09:21] <brycew> intelikey: OK... I got the external hard drive pmount to show up on the desktop, but when I click the icon it says "Unable to enter file:///media/sda1.  You do not have access rights to this location"
[09:22] <intelikey> brycew ok it's vfat or ntfs ?
[09:22] <brycew> intelikey: I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're asking.
[09:22] <Distro^Junkie> brycew: what format is the windows partition in ?
[09:23] <Distro^Junkie> is it ntfs or fat32 ?
[09:23] <brycew> I think ntfs?
[09:23] <Distro^Junkie> if you did a default install for xp then it would be ntfs
[09:24] <brycew> Yes, I did Distro.
[09:24] <intelikey> brycew edit the fstab again and make line eleven look like this   "/dev/sda1 /media/sda1 auto user,users,atime,noauto,rw,dmask=022,fmask=133 0 0"
[09:24] <brycew> intelikey: I guess it's ntsf then :D
[09:24] <Distro^Junkie> ok that's what intelikey was wondering
[09:24] <brycew> OK... I'll try again lol
[09:24] <Distro^Junkie> sometimes we forget to speak layman terms in here so the newbies can understand
[09:25] <Sheling> Is there anyone active at the mo who live streams to a server at all?
[09:25] <intelikey> then umount it and mount it again  should give everyone read access and you only write access   but if it's ntfs you probably don't want to be writing to it without ntfs-3g
[09:25] <intelikey> @ brycew  ^
[09:26] <intelikey> !info ntfs-3g | brycew
[09:26] <ubotu> brycew: ntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.328-1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 88 kB
[09:26] <brycew> How do I unmount?
[09:26] <Distro^Junkie> umount
[09:26] <brycew> ty
[09:26] <intelikey> Distro^Junkie yeah that's what i said
[09:26] <Distro^Junkie> np
[09:26] <BluesKaj> drif, even the outgoing editor of PC Magazine slammed vista for it's dumb architecture and lack backward compatability with previous windows apps..he actaully said he was seriously considering Linux.
[09:26] <Distro^Junkie> lol he must not of seen it

[09:27] <Distro^Junkie> as long as he fixes it thats kewl
[09:27] <Distro^Junkie> we all one big community of family
[09:27] <Distro^Junkie> we the anti windows family lol
[09:28] <intelikey> we is all L-users here mate
[09:28] <brycew> intelikey: I am sorry if I'm frustrating you... I'm new to all this... If helping me is interupting something you're trying to do, I can wait for help from someone else... I really do appreciate your assistance this far tho!
[09:29] <BluesKaj> not anti windows , just pro Linux
[09:29] <intelikey> that sounds like the "but what do i do now"  should be the next line    lol
[09:29] <Distro^Junkie> lol
[09:29] <intelikey> brycew and you're not bothering me.
[09:29] <Distro^Junkie> BluesKaj: yea I still use windows for the wife but slowly converting her
[09:29] <brycew> intelikey: I umount and pmount it again.... Now the icon opens up from the desktop but it doesn't show anything from my external hard drive in it.  It's blank :-S

[09:30] <elvirolo> hi all
[09:30] <intelikey> i yih yih yih,, yih       umount it again   and issue   mount /media/sda1    (not pmount)
[09:31] <brycew> ok
[09:32] <ubuntufan> hello
[09:32] <brycew> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
[09:32] <elvirolo> i have two kubuntu boxes, and i'd like to share files via nfs between them ... the server is configured but i don't know how to st up the client
[09:32] <brycew> intelikey: Thank you sooooo much!!!  You got it running for me :D
[09:32] <intelikey> brycew you finished with me now ?
[09:32] <intelikey> brycew you are quite welcome.
[09:32] <BluesKaj> Distro^Junkie, congrats ...don't think I'll ever convince wifey to switch to linux...she likes her pc the way it is :) . But, we're an older retired couple and she's not real technically oriented.
[09:32] <llutz> intelikey: pmount usually doesn't need any fstab-entry
[09:33] <intelikey> brycew and that should be permanant.
[09:33] <brycew> intelikey: Yes, I'll stop bugging you lol Your services are no longer needed ;)
[09:33] <intelikey> llutz yeah  but he had an entry,   hosed  but it was there.
[09:33] <Distro^Junkie> BluesKaj: I'm almost on my way to a brand new macbook though with the wife
[09:33] <llutz> intelikey:  i know, but don't know WHY he had it .)
[09:33] <brycew> So whenever I want to open up my external hard drive from this point on, will it always be on the desktop or do I have to run the mount /media/sda1 command?
[09:34] <BluesKaj> nice Distro^Junkie...
[09:34] <intelikey> llutz i don't know why he wanted pmount when a proper fstab and the user can mount it with mount...
[09:34] <intelikey> it's just one more char to type.
[09:34] <intelikey> no special benifit...
[09:34] <llutz> intelikey: questions over questions...
[09:34] <brycew> is there a difference between pmount and mount?
[09:35] <intelikey> is that a question llutz   :)
[09:35] <ubuntufan> hello, can you please help me install kde?
[09:35] <elvirolo> can anyone help me?
[09:35] <intelikey> brycew yes  but for your particular use there just use mount
[09:35] <drif> ubuntufan: install or configure after installation?
[09:35] <BluesKaj> !ask | elvirolo
[09:35] <ubotu> elvirolo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:35] <brycew> Sounds good, thank you!
[09:35] <intelikey> np
[09:36] <ubuntufan> install
[09:36] <drif> ubuntufan: because the basic install is as easy as 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[09:36] <ubuntufan> i see it works sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[09:36] <drif> yes
[09:36] <Dirrtys> I just started using konversation...how can I hide joins and parts?
[09:36] <intelikey> mount is on every linux system   pmount is on most.   if possable i always try to use and reccomend the more general/basic app
[09:36] <ubuntufan> and after that .. at the login screen i select kde ?
[09:37] <drif> ubuntufan: yup
[09:37] <ubuntufan> or at startup ?
[09:37] <ubuntufan> at the boot loader
[09:37] <intelikey> login
[09:37] <drif> ubuntufan: before each login you can decide
[09:37] <brycew> Cool, thanks :)
[09:37] <ubuntufan> aha, you mean where i enter my password... right?
[09:37] <drif> ubuntufan: and username
[09:38] <adriana> Hi
[09:38] <ubuntufan> yes...
[09:38] <llutz> pmount (1)           - mount arbitrary hotpluggable devices as normal user
[09:38] <ubuntufan> ok thanks man
[09:38] <albertmk> I want to play my DVD (movie) in Kubuntu. Whats a good program for that?
[09:38] <adriana> there are spanish here?
[09:38] <intelikey> man mount    mount - mount a file system
[09:38] <brycew> OK... another question, but not directed towards Intelikey, you need a break LOL
[09:38] <NickPresta> !dvd | albertmk
[09:38] <ubotu> albertmk: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[09:38] <drif> albertmk: vlc is one possibility
[09:39] <albertmk> vlc? isnt it just a wmv player?
[09:39] <intelikey> hardly
[09:39] <drif> albertmk: it plays variety of formats
[09:39] <albertmk> all right :)
[09:39] <intelikey> !info vlc
[09:39] <brycew> Now that I've got my external hard drive up and running.... I want to load some songs onto my memory card for me cell phone / mp3 player.  How do I open up a memory card so I can drag and drop songs in so I can use them on my mp3 player?
[09:39] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1131 kB, installed size 3192 kB
[09:39] <NickPresta> I like Mplayer and Kaffeine for DVD playback
[09:40] <BluesKaj> VLC prolly plays more formats than any other media player in existence
[09:40] <Arwen> I use MPlayer for everything :-\
[09:40] <Arwen> BluesKaj, and yet it can't do subtitles
[09:40] <intelikey> vlc doesn't need propritary 'corrupt code' for most formats.
[09:40] <albertmk> yes, it works
[09:41] <intelikey> but someone said vlc was ugly
[09:41] <chollo> quien me puede decir un server en espaol
[09:41] <BluesKaj> Arwen, I don't watch a lot of movies on my pc
[09:41] <NickPresta> !es | chollo
[09:41] <ubotu> chollo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:41] <intelikey> when i do watch a movie on here it's with vlc in a console using svgalibs   no xorg/x11 needed
[09:42] <BluesKaj> intelikey, for those who want eyecandied media players ...i have just one suggestion ..
[09:43] <intelikey> and it's not console   is it ?
[09:43] <intelikey> :0
[09:43] <BluesKaj> nope :)
[09:43] <Arwen> eye candy media player?
[09:43] <Arwen> wha
[09:43] <Arwen> ?
[09:44] <intelikey> Arwen skins bells and whistles
[09:44] <brycew> How do I view what's on a memory card for my mp3 player?  I want to transfer songs so I can listen to it on my mp3 player.
[09:44] <BluesKaj> if the frame is more importanr than the content , then i have nothing to say
[09:44] <NickPresta> brycew, you can mount it as a memory card or mount it as a media device in Amarok or something similar
[09:45] <brycew> what would be the mount command that I would run?
[09:45] <conrad__> anyone know what to do if firefox crashes every time i download something?
[09:45] <llutz> BluesKaj: in most movies, the frame is more interesting than the content :)
[09:45] <NickPresta> brycew, I would think your memory card would be auto-mounted. The `mount` command should do it. Let me check the man pages...
[09:46] <BluesKaj> hehe, llutz...was waiting for that one :)
[09:46] <intelikey> brycew does depend on the format of the fs    sudo mount /dev/<device> /media/<mountpoint> -o <options>         <<< that's the generic syntax  translate all within <>
[09:46] <intelikey> llutz here here !
[09:46] <intelikey> or dito
[09:46] <intelikey> or what ever is aproprate
[09:46] <brycew> NickPresta:  lol Thanks :D
[09:47] <BluesKaj> brycew, what's your pc , if you don't mind my curiousity ?
[09:48] <NickPresta> brycew, yes. You don't need to know the mount type in most cases, I just discovered. So a simple `mount /dev/DEVICENAME /media/MOUNTPOINT` should suffice
[09:48] <intelikey> brycew and being new to linux let me introduce you to the manual pages for the commands you use.    in the konsole type;   man intro
[09:48] <bauer> how do i get the KDE headers installed ?
[09:48] <intelikey> brycew that's a short read on how manual pages and the pager work.
[09:49] <brycew> intelikey: Thanks... looking into it now :)
[09:49] <Arwen> bauer, apt-get install kde-dev I think
[09:49] <intelikey> bauer sudo apt-get install kde-dev      ?
[09:49] <intelikey> not sure about the package name
[09:49] <brycew> NickPresta: Thanks, going to try that in one sec.
[09:49] <llutz> bauer: install kde-devel
[09:49] <Arwen> yeah, kde-devel
[09:49] <bauer> Arwen, intelikey , llutz  Thx :o)
[09:50] <combo> how can i remove all ATI drivers (XGL, fglrx and the rest of AIGLX) so i can try to install them once again ? :]
[09:50] <Arwen> XGL isn't a driver. AIGLX too.
[09:50] <intelikey> brycew then afterwards if you need info on the mount command   you type     man mount      and either use the  /<string> search feature or the navigation keys and look up what you want.
[09:50] <combo> i've just tried many kind of drivers but all of them sux :]
[09:50] <combo> Arwen: ok, i don't know how to call them
[09:50] <combo> i just want to REMOVE them at all!
[09:51] <combo> can u help ? :S
[09:51] <intelikey> brycew and there are man pages for most commands    and mount is on most linux installations.
[09:51] <NickPresta> combo, you can fire up Adept and search for them and remove them. You can also use the console: `sudo apt-get remove PACKAGE`
[09:51] <intelikey> errr not mount.  man
[09:51] <Arwen> you can't remove AIGLX, but apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx xserver-xgl will get rid of the other two
[09:51] <brycew> intelikey: Thanks... wrote it all down in my notebook for the future :D reading this intro right now
[09:52] <intelikey> ok lesson is over,  school is out.
[09:52] <combo> ok thanks, i'll try that :)
[09:52] <NickPresta> I wish I would've kept notes on what I learnt when I was new to GNU+Linux. It would've saved me time searching Google and such.
[09:53] <brycew> I've got about 30 pages in this notebook full with stuff already and I've only been on linux 5 days :S
[09:54] <NickPresta> heh. That's good. Check out the command `apropos` if you haven't already
[09:54] <NickPresta> it's invaluable
[09:54] <brycew> So to mount my memory card, I can do it by mounting the "name"?  Example, mount /dev/scandisk right?
[09:55] <combo> can i delete all XORG ? i mean xorg-input, xserver-xgl, xserver-xorg-core, e.g. ? :}
[09:55] <combo> there are many of this stuff
[09:55] <capiira> if you don't need a graphical gui then yes
[09:55] <combo> or this is bad idea ? :}
[09:56] <capiira> you will end in the shell by deleting xorg
[09:56] <combo> capiira: graphical gui? i just want to uninstall all my drivers so i can install them again
[09:56] <combo> cuz i have to big mess with them :]
[09:56] <capiira> by deleting xorg you will in th shell
[09:56] <capiira> without gnome/kde
[09:56] <combo> capiira: so - as i can see - it's very baaad move :}
[09:56] <brycew> NickPresta: I typed apropos and it told me apropos what?
[09:57] <drif> NickPresta: appropos <word>
[09:57] <combo> capiira: so how can i delete fglrx shit ?
[09:57] <drif> srry :D
[09:57] <drif> I meant bryce..
[09:57] <drif> sigh
[09:57] <capiira> dont know i never owned a ati
[09:57] <combo> i was trying first to install AIGLX then fglrx
[09:57] <combo> and then XGL or something
[09:57] <capiira> always avoided it :D
[09:57] <combo> am not sure :/ what should i do ? :|
[09:57] <capiira> you cant install AIGLX
[09:57] <combo> capiira: why avoid? ;>
[09:57] <capiira> its part of xorg
[09:58] <combo> capiira: why cannot?!
[09:58] <brycew> lol thanks drif
[09:58] <combo> i had AIGLX before ;P
[09:58] <capiira> maybe you enabled and disabled it
[09:58] <capiira> but not uninstalled
[09:58] <BluesKaj> combo, what ati card do you have ?
[09:58] <combo> BluesKaj: ATI Radeon 9600
[09:58] <combo> i have NOT too much knowledge 'bout that topic :/
[09:59] <Angelus> BluesKaj: do you know some good identd program , i want to use it for IRC to give ident reponse, i already tried pidentd and oidentd but no luck
[09:59] <BluesKaj> and what are trying to do
[09:59] <combo> actually i DON'T have ANY knowledge ... 've been trying to do that with some HOW-TOs :/
[09:59] <NickPresta> well, you have to see what it's device name is. Open up KControl (`kcontrol`) and go to Disk & Filesystem. It should tell you what various things are.  My CD burners are /dev/hda and hdb. My USB card reader is /dev/sda and sdb
[09:59] <combo> but doesn't work
[09:59] <NickPresta> to brycew of course
[09:59] <BluesKaj> Angelus, why are you trying ident ?
[09:59] <brycew> OK... I'll give that a shot NickPresta!
[10:00] <Angelus> cause i want to ident on IRC
[10:00] <Angelus> :/
[10:00] <BluesKaj> do you mean register your nick , Angelus ?
[10:00] <Angelus> no
[10:00] <Angelus> identd dude
[10:00] <combo> BluesKaj: i want to remove all AIGLX and fglrx stuff so i can install it clearly again - this time only file: 'ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run'
[10:00] <capiira> maybe your router is blocking the port
[10:00] <Angelus> see this >n=demon@
[10:00] <Angelus> on my whois
[10:00] <Angelus> thats the ident
[10:00] <combo> hope it'll work
[10:01] <Angelus> if i give ident response that n= will go away
[10:01] <capiira> 113 is blocked
[10:01] <capiira> port forward it
[10:01] <BluesKaj> combo, if you have the patience , you might try this tutorial ; http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[10:03] <capiira> you can't ident if 113 is blocked
[10:03] <BluesKaj> sorry Angelus , you lost me
[10:03] <Angelus> ok :o
[10:03] <DagonIT> I just installed Kubuntu 64 and apparently broke adaptec. How do I fix it?
[10:03] <brycew> NickPresta: It's not showing me anything for the memory card.  I'm not even getting any popup when I push in the duo adapter scandisk thingy.... Nothing showing up in the Disk & Filesystems? :(
[10:04] <NickPresta> brycew, is this memory card going into a card reader or directly to a USB interface?
[10:06] <brycew> NickPresta: The memory card is placed into a little converter thingy that I place into the slot on my laptop (sorry I'm not very technical or word savvy here lol)
[10:07] <NickPresta> in the Disk & Filesystems window, you don't see anything that says "Removable USB Disk ..." or anything like that?
[10:07] <brycew> <<< Memory Stick Duo Adapter >>> with memory card inserted, then I insert the adapter into the computer, if that makes any better sense lol
[10:07] <brycew> NickPresta: I do, but it's only showing my external hard drive.
[10:08] <NickPresta> hmm okay.
[10:10] <GuyFromHell> How can i set up ipw4945 on feisty?
[10:10] <GuyFromHell> oh nvm just found it ;)
[10:12] <brycew> I've searched everyone on google.com/linux for mounting a memory card, but no success :S
[10:12] <NickPresta> which laptop do you have?
[10:13] <brycew> NickPresta: Compaq Presario R3000
[10:14] <BluesKaj> brycew, do you have flash installed
[10:15] <BluesKaj> and are you using kubuntu 64 biy distro ?
[10:15] <BluesKaj> bit
[10:15] <brycew> BluesKaj: I believe so... not certain tho... I performed all the updates and downloads as I browsed the net, I think one requested me to download flash if that's what you're referring to.
[10:15] <brycew> kubuntu 7.04
[10:15] <drif> brycew: no, do you have flash inserted - I believe that's wat he asked
[10:16] <drif> or..
[10:16] <BluesKaj> Texas Instruments PCI-1620 Cardbus PCMCIA with Ultramedia flash reader
[10:16] <brycew> No I don't think I do then :S
[10:17] <rustalot> I got a new laptop (a Dell Inspiron 1420 ) and when I try to do start or install, it goes to a shell and gives me an error about 'can't access tty, job control turned off'
[10:18] <rustalot> the shell is Debian BusyBox v1.1.3 Built-in shell (ash)
[10:21] <BluesKaj> brycew, lsb_release -a .. will tell you which version of kubuntu you are running ...I suspect some of your probs are related, if it's the 64bit version
[10:22] <brycew> 7.04
[10:22] <brycew> BluesKaj: 7.04 Feisty
[10:23] <BluesKaj> oops wrong cmnd , i guess
[10:24] <BluesKaj> bbl...gotta set up the BBQ
[10:32] <Azzco> Can anyone recomend a IM that has decent filetransfer on linux (I'd like if if can be used with kopete)
[10:33] <NickPresta> Azzco, what do you mean a decent IM?
[10:33] <NickPresta> You said Kopete. The other big IM client is Gaim/Pidgin.
[10:33] <Azzco> Mainly a Im that anyone could consider to use
[10:33] <NickPresta> Gaim/Pidgin
[10:33] <Azzco> Well I meant the protocol
[10:34] <NickPresta> oh.
[10:34] <Azzco> sorry if that was unlcear
[10:34] <NickPresta> well, I don't think any are particularly good. It would probably be better to find a site that you can upload files to and distribute the link...
[10:34] <Azzco> Okay in a swedish ubuntu site they talked alot about jabber being so good but I haven't had the time to try it out
[10:35] <Azzco> only tried google talk once (jabber based I think) and it didn't seem so good..
[10:39] <johnny_> Hi
[10:40] <CPrompt^> hello
[10:40] <NickPresta> !hi
[10:40] <ubotu> Hi!   When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[10:41] <CPrompt^> it screws up some stuff johnny_
[10:41] <johnny_> Like what?
[10:41] <CPrompt^> don't try to do a dist-upgrade with it installed.  it will crash
[10:41] <johnny_> No, I won't upgrade my distro with it.
[10:42] <johnny_> But many cool programs
[10:42] <CPrompt^> no real need for it anyway.  that's what adept is for ;)
[10:42] <BluesKaj> Azzco, MS messenger works well in kopete ...used a few times with no probs
[10:42] <johnny_> Right.
[10:42] <johnny_> The new aMSN is very good
[10:42] <NickPresta> johnny_, automatix may be fine for now, but remember !automatix
[10:42] <Azzco> BluesKaj: I'm having serius problems with file transfer on MSN all files I get are corrupt..
[10:43] <NickPresta> Azzco, I've never had that problem using MSN on Pidgin/Gaim
[10:43] <coreymon77> johnny_: never use automatix!
[10:43] <johnny_> Hm. Why not just upload it to www.sendspace.com for free?
[10:43] <BluesKaj> whoa Azzco , that's bad ...din't know that
[10:43] <Azzco> I'd really like to stay with kopete :( I've themed it nicely and gotten used to it
[10:43] <coreymon77> johnny_: it breaks systems
[10:43] <johnny_> So people can download afterwoods
[10:44] <coreymon77> johnny_: apt does the exact same thing and does not brea systems
[10:44] <Azzco> I've only expereienced corrupt file transfers kopete client to kopete
[10:44] <johnny_> Autsomatix breaks systems?
[10:44] <coreymon77> yes
[10:44] <coreymon77> !automatix
[10:44] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[10:44] <coreymon77> see
[10:44] <coreymon77> johnny_: just use apt, or adept, or aptitude
[10:45] <johnny_> OK, I get it.
[10:45] <coreymon77> johnny_: good
[10:45] <johnny_> But I use it for some installations
[10:45] <coreymon77> johnny_: dont
[10:45] <coreymon77> johnny_: just use apt
[10:45] <Azzco> Why is those programs so popular..
[10:45] <johnny_> Is it som bad?
[10:45] <johnny_> so
[10:45] <coreymon77> johnny_: yes
[10:45] <Angelus> hello
[10:45] <Angelus> can somone help me with the folowing errorplease ? http://rafb.net/p/nsdlvI66.html
[10:45] <johnny_> Hm. I thought it was very good
[10:46] <coreymon77> johnny_: use it if you want to, but youve been warned
[10:46] <CPrompt^> johnny_ : i have never found a program that I couldn't install on Kubuntu.  At least one for linux anyway.
[10:46] <coreymon77> johnny_: if it breaks your system, dont come crawling to us, we wont help you
[10:46] <Angelus> can somone help me with the folowing errorplease ? http://rafb.net/p/nsdlvI66.html
[10:46] <johnny_> Well, I have uset Linux for less than a year....
[10:46] <BioVorE> Angelus: cd: 1: can't cd to ../tools  <-- build script can't cd into that directory..
[10:46] <Angelus> BioVorE:
[10:46] <coreymon77> johnny_: just use apt instead
[10:46] <Angelus> what can i do about it?
[10:46] <BioVorE> no clue.. your building it..
[10:46] <Angelus> hmm
[10:47] <Angelus> its cedega's source
[10:47] <Angelus> winex
[10:47] <Angelus> :/
[10:47] <johnny_> Yes, but I do. Autsomatix for smoe updates
[10:47] <johnny_> some
[10:47] <johnny_> Sorry
[10:47] <BioVorE> and.. you expect CVS to build all the time..
[10:47] <Angelus> :o
[10:47] <Angelus> why not?
[10:47] <BioVorE> Someone could be add stuff to it..
[10:47] <Q-collective> hey all, can I have some packages in unstable while staying mainly in stable for the rest of the system? In Gentoo there is this concept of package.* lists that mask or unmask stable/unstable packages at will. But I can see that this would be more troublesome with a binary distro which is linked against a certain versioned set of libraries
[10:47] <Angelus> O_o
[10:47] <BioVorE> CVS is what the developers use.. Some could be 1/2 written
[10:47] <johnny_> Shit.
[10:48] <brycew> Has anyone ever used "usbutils" debugging USB?
[10:48] <BioVorE> Look for nightly builds
[10:48] <Angelus> BioVorE: does kubuntu has any package of a sucesfull build of winex?
[10:48] <johnny_> I have problems with connecting too a USB extern harddrive
[10:49] <BioVorE> no.. winex is comercial..
[10:49] <Q-collective> cedega*
[10:49] <Sanne> Q-collective: usually it's mostly troublesome and better to backport unstable sources to stable.
[10:49] <brycew> Johnny, you ever figure out the problem?
[10:49] <BioVorE> the source you download isn't the full thing..
[10:49] <Angelus> yeah but its CVS its free
[10:49] <Angelus> :/
[10:49] <Angelus> oh
[10:49] <BioVorE> there are close source parts
[10:49] <Q-collective> cvs cedega is crippled
[10:49] <johnny_> No. I can get small USB-drives too function, but not as big as 250 GB
[10:50] <Arwen> CVS cedega doesn't have the DRM emulation code
[10:50] <Angelus> BioVorE: does something free like Cedega exist?
[10:50] <Q-collective> besides, wine has improved a lot in the past two years
[10:50] <brycew> I am trying to download pictures from my memory card, I cannot get it to read onlinux :(
[10:50] <BioVorE> wine.. the free version..
[10:50] <Q-collective> so, go for wine
[10:50] <Angelus> beside wine :S
[10:50] <Arwen> wine isn't the "free version"
[10:50] <Arwen> WINE is WINE
[10:50] <Q-collective> Angelus: what is wrong with wine?
[10:50] <BioVorE> www.winehq.com  I think..
[10:50] <Angelus> cause when i wined War Craft 3 it worked very very slow
[10:50] <Angelus> :/
[10:51] <BioVorE> yup.. sounds like wine.. works like crap imo
[10:51] <Q-collective> Angelus: you have your drivers properly setup?
[10:51] <johnny_> This is a support channel?
[10:51] <BioVorE> try #wine
[10:51] <Q-collective> #winehq
[10:51] <Angelus> what drivers Q-collective?
[10:52] <Q-collective> videodrivers
[10:52] <brycew> If I want to open a directory, I would type command "cd usbutils-0.72" correct?
[10:52] <Q-collective> what else
[10:52] <Q-collective> brycew: correct
[10:53] <brycew> it keeps telling me "No such file or directory" but I just downloaded it and extracted it to the kdesktop, but doesn't pull up in the terminal.
[10:53] <johnny_> Hmm.. Well anyway, I really like Linux, even after my short time on it.
[10:53] <BioVorE> !cave
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cave - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <BioVorE> wrong chan
[10:53] <Q-collective> brycew: try to use tab-completion, you may be mistyping it
[10:53] <johnny_> I guess
[10:53] <Mr_Sonoma> johnny_, yes this is a support channel. but automatrix is not a supported app
[10:53] <brycew> Q-collective: what do you mean tab-completion?
[10:54] <johnny_> No, I just tested this app for first time, the irc
[10:54] <Q-collective> brycew: try to type Q-<tabkey> in this irc channel
[10:54] <Q-collective> ;)
[10:54] <Bauldrick> ive allowed port 6881 through my router  but kubuntu seems to be blocking it (iptables?)
[10:54] <johnny_> So I did not know what it was
[10:54] <Angelus> Q-collective: do i have 3D accel like this http://rafb.net/p/Xb7LZf20.html ?
[10:54] <brycew> Q-collective: gotcha!  This works in the terminal as well for names?
[10:54] <brycew> names / applications
[10:55] <johnny_> I get the sam probleme with same port and a router
[10:55] <Q-collective> brycew: it works for commands, locations, etc
[10:55] <johnny_> ON aMSN
[10:55] <Bauldrick> johnny?
[10:55] <johnny_> yes?
[10:55] <_aaa> nick dac
[10:55] <Bauldrick> solution
[10:55] <brycew> So in other words... type... " cd usb <tab> and it will finish the rest of the application name?
[10:55] <johnny_> I don't have it
[10:55] <Q-collective> Angelus: glxgears is not a good app to show that
[10:55] <BluesKaj> brycew, the terminal assumes you have the file in /home/yourname.  that's prolly why the konsole doesn't see it
[10:56] <Q-collective> Angelus: try glxinfo | grep direct
[10:56] <_aaa> nick _dac
[10:56] <Bauldrick> lol !! ok
[10:56] <brycew> BluesKaj: So what do I need to do in order to change that?
[10:56] <Angelus> Q-collective: there's a difference beetween Direct Rendering and 3D accel
[10:56] <Q-collective> is there?
[10:56] <Angelus> yeah
[10:56] <Q-collective> since when? ;)
[10:57] <Angelus> even on cedega , there are 2 tests, direct rendering and 3D accell
[10:57] <BluesKaj> cd to /home/desktop or move the file into yout /home/yourname directory
[10:57] <BluesKaj> yout=your
[10:57] <johnny_> How to mount a usb hardrive?
[10:57] <Q-collective> kubuntu should mount it
[10:57] <Mr_Sonoma> uh plug it in?
[10:57] <johnny_> It don't
[10:57] <johnny_> Yes, plug in.
[10:58] <johnny_> But can't see it
[10:58] <johnny_> It won't mount
[10:58] <brycew> BluesKaj: When I downloaded it from the internet, I downloaded "usbutilis-0.72.tar.gz" and extracted it to my kdesktop, so wouldn't that mean it's already in "/home/myname/"?
[10:58] <Q-collective> ok, open a konsole and type sudo dmesg to see what is wrong
[10:58] <johnny_> Ok
[10:58] <Q-collective> after you plugged it in
[10:59] <Q-collective> Angelus: so, what is the difference then?
[10:59] <szollosyg> hey
[10:59] <BluesKaj> no, you brycew , you have to tell what ever browser you're using to DL to the /home/myname
[11:00] <johnny_> vmmon: module license 'unspecified' taints kernel.
[11:00] <Angelus> i dunno Q-collective, but i never passed cedega's 3D accell but Direct rendering i always passed it
[11:00] <johnny_>  ppdev0: unregistered pardevice
[11:00] <Sanne> brycew: usbutils is in the ubuntu repository, you can install it via adept/synaptic/apt
[11:00] <johnny_> Thanks
[11:00] <Q-collective> Angelus: then I guess cedega doesn't make a difference between direct rendering and mesa rendering
[11:01] <johnny_> usbutils?
[11:01] <Q-collective> which indeed is a difference
[11:01] <szollosyg> is there someone who is willing to help me install compiz fusion on kubuntu fiesty with an ATI X1100? please?
[11:01] <brycew> Sanne: Ok, I'm going to give it a shot that way, thanks for the suggestion!
[11:01] <jason__10> Hello
[11:01] <Q-collective> do the fglrx drivers play nice with compiz goodness these days?
[11:03] <brycew> Sanne: It says it's already installed :S
[11:03] <Sanne> brycew: you're welcome :). It's the recommended way to install software, because it's already compiled for your system. Otherwise you'd have to compile it yourself, and the package manager wouldn't know about it. So better first search if an app is in the repositiries.
[11:03] <Sanne> brycew: oh! so you have it :)
[11:04] <jason__10> anyone here a linux administrator?
[11:04] <knightz> why?
[11:04] <Q-collective> anyone with their own computer?
[11:04] <Q-collective> :-)
[11:04] <knightz> why?
[11:05] <Q-collective> knightz: that was an answer to jason__10 btw
[11:05] <brycew> That was refreshing to scream and cry lol
[11:05] <jason__10> im just wandering about what sort of qualifications if any they have
[11:05] <Q-collective> brycew: just plug the camera in?
[11:05] <runlevelten> Why don't you just plug your digital camera in?!
[11:06] <jason__10> Q-collective: I mean for a company,
[11:06] <debiani386> hi every1
[11:06] <knightz> f-qualification..... is not skillz
[11:06] <brycew> Because I only have a memory card for it.
[11:06] <Sanne> brycew: some devices use non standard protocols that may not be supported by Linux.
[11:06] <jason__10> like does any one get paid for their linux knowledge
[11:06] <debiani386> jason >> i do :P
[11:06] <jason__10> hi debiani386
[11:06] <jason__10> :)
[11:06] <runlevelten> jason__10: Yes.
[11:06] <debiani386> hi jason
[11:06] <BioVorE> I know people.. I do sometimes..
[11:06] <jason__10> debiani386: thanks for updating the site
[11:06] <debiani386> jason >> your welcom
[11:07] <debiani386> welcome **
[11:07] <jason__10> BioVorE: and runlevelten I would like to get paid for using linux :)
[11:07] <Q-collective> jason__10: there are the RedHat qualifications, they're just about the industry standard in the linux world
[11:07] <brycew> Sanne: Do you know what a "SanDisk" Memory Stick Duo Adapter is?  I've my memory card in it, placed into my laptop and it won't read the card... Is this specifically only for windows OS or no?
[11:07] <debiani386> jason >> i also recommended this stie to some of my friends
[11:07] <runlevelten> for using?
[11:07] <runlevelten> heh
[11:07] <debiani386> jason >> i told them if they have any computer problems, go to that site and we will help
[11:07] <jason__10> brycew:  It should work, i think you will have to manually mount it tho, you tried?
[11:07] <jason__10> debiani386:  OK excellent
[11:07] <coreymon77> debiani386: what ste?
[11:08] <coreymon77> debiani386: you mean this channel?
[11:08] <debiani386> core >> stimulus.newsit.es
[11:08] <coreymon77> oh
[11:08] <brycew> jason__10: I've tried everything and I'm about ready to scream lol
[11:08] <runlevelten> I use a memory stick pro duo plugged into my phone, so I can't vouch for bothering with pooter card slots.
[11:08] <jason__10> coreymon77:  its mine and debiani386's site
[11:08] <coreymon77> brycew: whats the matter
[11:08] <jason__10> brycew:
[11:09] <jason__10> do you have a yahoo , msn or aim account?
[11:09] <brycew> I use this memory card for my phone as well.... it's a digital camera, phone, palm pilot, etc.... it's a 100 gig memory card and works perfect with windows but soon as I try to work it in here, I get nothing.
[11:09] <runlevelten> Hang on, I think I upgraded and it's now a micro m2
[11:09] <brycew> jason__10: I have all of them
[11:09] <runlevelten> what phone do you have?
[11:09] <runlevelten> brycew: ^
[11:09] <jason__10> add properganja_j to yahoo
[11:09] <brycew> runlevelten: the one I'm using right now is w810i
[11:10] <runlevelten> sony ericsson? Will work as a USB mass storage device, and the memory card will be mounted as a second device.
[11:10] <runlevelten> k800s, w800s (and the 10s and is)
[11:10] <brycew> runlevelten: yes, sony ericsson
[11:10] <Sanne> brycew: sorry, I'm not familiar with those devices. But I see you already got better help :)
[11:11] <runlevelten> Assuming you're using Kubuntu, that is.
[11:12] <brycew> runlevelten: I'm using kubuntu 7.04
[11:12] <brycew> Sanne: Thanks a million!
[11:12] <jason__10> brycew: do can I chat to you on yahoo?
[11:12] <pontiac> run whats up
[11:13] <runlevelten> Well I'd put it in the phone and plug the phone in using the data cable that comes with them :)
[11:13] <runlevelten> hi pontiac :)
[11:13] <pontiac> run you from usa
[11:13] <brycew> I can't find the data cable :(
[11:13] <runlevelten> Oh no :(
[11:13] <brycew> I know! lol
[11:14] <pontiac> i remove  my kubuntu 86
[11:14] <pontiac> too hard
[11:14] <brycew> I think I found some help tho... :)
[11:14] <runlevelten> See, they expose a nice simple usb mass storage device, so your camera + memory stick will work with digikam, amarok, picasa etc.
[11:14] <runlevelten> and be seen as two separate devices.
[11:15] <pass> hello, anybody knows how to configure a vivo (video in video out) card with kubuntu?
[11:16] <runlevelten> Also, the sony ericsson phones talk vcs, so you can sync up events from korganiser with the calendar on the phone.
[11:16] <runlevelten> and vice versa
[11:16] <pass> runlevelten - hello
[11:17] <runlevelten> It ain't quite syncml, but it makes the phone much more useful.
[11:17] <runlevelten> pass: hello
[11:18] <pass> runleveltenn: got a clue on how to configure a vivo card to work with linux?
[11:20] <runlevelten> wot sort of vivo card?
[11:21] <pass> runlevelten: leadtek geforce 4 ti 4400
[11:22] <runlevelten> Last I was aware of, people were using rivaTV, but don't quote me on that as it's not something I encounter often
[11:23] <runlevelten> !vivo
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vivo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <runlevelten> !rivatv
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rivatv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <pass> ah i C, rivatv is no longer working with newer drivers
[11:23] <pass> suppose there was another way..
[11:25] <runlevelten> Are you sure? On a card that old?
[11:26] <t00na> hello
[11:26] <t00na> is there a KDE way to figure out what kind of RAM i have?
[11:27] <pass> runlevelten: thx man, i'll figure it out somehow...
[11:27] <runlevelten> there are a couple of 4ti's supported here, it seems http://rivatv.sourceforge.net/status.html
[11:27] <pass> ye i am looking a that now
[11:27] <fusspils> I have 2 WIFI cards installed and they show up as eth1 and eth2.  I installed the hostap drivers, rebooted but they still show up as ethx.  Can I force ONE card to use the hostap drivers?
[11:27] <pass> i will try it anyway
[11:28] <pass> thx man
[11:28] <runlevelten> worth a shot, innit?
[11:28] <runlevelten> np, but I wish I was more help with that.
[11:28] <pass> it's old rusty hardware, wasn't expecting much
[11:28] <pass> vivo is something hard to get here
[11:28] <pass> in linux i mean
[11:29] <runlevelten> Still, it's nice old rusty hardware. Lot of respect for the 4 tis
[11:29] <t00na> hello?
[11:31] <runlevelten> t00na: what do you mean "what kind of ram"?
[11:33] <Karti> runlevelten: I think he may mean DDR2 800 etc (but I might be wrong!)
[11:33] <t00na> Karti is correct.
[11:33] <Cannoli> wht would cause linux games to run slow on a 512mb ati 1650?
[11:33] <t00na> I can't figure out how to crack this case open...
[11:33] <Cannoli> :S
[11:34] <BioVorE> t00na: try a bigger hammer
[11:34] <t00na> :D
[11:34] <sparr> I installed w32codecs and now mplayer can play everything i want, but xine still cant.  No xine means no kaffeine.  Help?
[11:34] <runlevelten> t00na: you can look in case or in the BIOS to find that the quickest.
[11:35] <runlevelten> Cannoli: lack of 3d support?
[11:35] <Cannoli> wht u mean?
[11:35] <hitmanWilly> sparr, libxine-extracodecs
[11:35] <Cannoli> do i need a driver for my card or something?
[11:35] <Karti> Doesn't the live cd have a memory test on it, as well
[11:35] <runlevelten> what does glxinfo | grep endor get you?
[11:35] <runlevelten> in a konsole
[11:36] <runlevelten> Cannoli: yes, you'll probably need to install the ATi drivers to play games.
[11:36] <Cannoli> and those are available through the add and remove programs?
[11:36] <runlevelten> !ati
[11:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:37] <Cannoli> ah ic
[11:37] <Cannoli> ty
[11:37] <Cannoli>  :)
[11:37] <hufi> #kubuntu-de
[11:38] <runlevelten> np :)
[11:38] <hitmanWilly> sparr, or set up kaff to use mplayer for the backend
[11:41] <runlevelten> speaking of 3d, it's time for me to get some clan practise in. Later all.
[11:42] <sparr> hitmanWilly: im not getting an option for anything other than xine for the kaff backend.  and i dont like kaff anyways.  im tempted to just uninstall it
[11:46] <Cannoli> the tutorial says i have to get to System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager
[11:46] <Cannoli> how would i do that
[11:46] <Cannoli> ?
[11:51] <Cannoli> anyone?
[11:52] <tuxedo_> hey i am new to this linux stuff  this thing any good?
[11:52] <Cannoli> hellz yea
[11:52] <VSpike> Should a font a 8pt size appear the same actual size in all screen resolutions?
[11:52] <Cannoli> i started abt a week and a half ago
[11:53] <Cannoli> im not going back to windows
[11:53] <moyer> i have a problem
[11:53] <tuxedo_> haha you know any good places for games
[11:53] <moyer> i cant view linux drive i get this error
[11:53] <Cannoli> VSpike: i dont think screen rez does anything to the fonts
[11:53] <Cannoli> as far as i know
[11:53] <moyer> hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 999
[11:53] <moyer> i cant view windows partition rather.. sorry
[11:54] <mrksbrd> tuxedo, when u first start, it will be very frustrating, when u get used to it there's no limit on what u can do on this os
[11:54] <Cannoli> tuxedo_: in linux, theres an option called add and remove programs, and it acts as a downloader for every avail program for linux, including tonnnneess of games
[11:54] <Cannoli> mrksbrd: do u knw how i might be able to get to System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager?
[11:55] <VSpike> Cannoli: that's what I thought too
[11:55] <tuxedo_> alright sweet  thanks guys  i do like os
[11:55] <mrksbrd> u need to do re-down load the app?
[11:55] <Cannoli> no
[11:55] <Cannoli> i need to open it
[11:56] <VSpike> Cannoli: sudo restricted-manager
[11:56] <Cannoli> i cant find it to run it
[11:56] <mrksbrd> u using GNOME?
[11:56] <VSpike> Cannoli: scratch that... kdesu restricted-manager
[11:56] <Cannoli> yep i just did that. thanx vspike
[11:56] <Cannoli> !gnome
[11:57] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[11:57] <miglo> Hi all! Does someone know a channel about tv recording? does someone have experience with that?
[11:57] <Cannoli> no im using kubuntu
[11:57] <VSpike> I can't make any application print photos properly, which is incredibly annoying
[11:57] <mrksbrd> not sure in kubuntu, what are u trying to add???
[11:59] <VSpike> what's the state of the free nvidia driver like at the moment?
[11:59] <VSpike> How functional is it?
[12:00] <debiani386> the nvidia driver is still a bit glitch
[12:00] <debiani386> glitchy*
[12:01] <debiani386> I use an ati, but the people on the ubuntu support list are having problems with Beryl and there using the new opensource nvidia driver
[12:02] <BioVorE> !nvidia
[12:02] <VSpike> new opensource driver? you mean latest release of it, or an actual new effort?
[12:02] <Cannoli> hahah
[12:02] <Cannoli> i just got wine
[12:02] <Cannoli> XD
[12:02] <mrksbrd> cannoli, try a prog called automatix
[12:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:02] <Cannoli> for wht?
[12:02] <debiani386> spike >> according to the mailing list, it was the latest release
[12:03] <ubuntu> s
[12:03] <VSpike> Cannoli: seriously, don't try automatix
[12:03] <BioVorE> !automatix
[12:03] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[12:04] <VSpike> BioVorE: I have the binary drivers installed thanks - just wondering how functional the free ones are
[12:04] <Cannoli> :O
[12:04] <Cannoli> it breaks ur system?
[12:05] <Cannoli> !toolbar
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about toolbar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <Cannoli> how do i open my little tool abr again
[12:05] <VSpike> debiani386: I'm not actually using any effects, or playing any 3d games.  I do have some occasional stability problems with the X server though, and I'm wondering if they are related to the binary driver
[12:05] <Cannoli> the one on the bottom of my screen
[12:05] <Cannoli> which tells time and stuff
[12:05] <VSpike> Cannoli: kicker
[12:05] <Cannoli> ah ic
[12:05] <Cannoli> thanx
[12:05] <Cannoli> k imma go take a nap
[12:05] <Cannoli> g'night
[12:06] <sparr> why do people use kaffeine?  i cant find anything to like about it, and it annoys me in so many ways.
[12:06] <VSpike> I was thinking about trying the free one for a while to see if its more stable, but it depends how usable it actually is
[12:06] <drif> sparr: me neither, although I did watch dvb broadcasts with it
[12:08] <sparr> goddamnit
[12:08] <sparr> i had kmplayer working
[12:08] <sparr> now mplayer plays outside the kmplayer window
[12:08] <sparr> wtf?
[12:22] <chollo> hi
[12:23] <brycew> How do I find a usb connection?  It's not popping up when I connect the cord.
[12:25] <chollo> sorry pero por enesima vez cual son los canales en espaol
[12:25] <chollo> para guardarlos
[12:25] <BioVorE> !es
[12:25] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:27] <VSpike> brycew: suggest you do tail -f /var/log/messages and then plug it in again and look for useful stuff
[12:30] <brycew> VSpike: What exactly am I looking for that is useful?  Nothing new popped up once I plugged it in again.
[12:30] <jason__10> brycew:  we're still here we think we have your solution have you decided not to go ahead?
[12:30] <brycew> Jason__10 tried messaging you guys and never got a response... figured you guys left :( I'll look you up on yahoo again.
[12:31] <VSpike> brycew: anything relating to usb
[12:31] <jason__10> ah sorry probably a yahoo prob
[12:31] <VSpike> brycew: did you not see a bunch of messages appear when you plugged it in?
[12:31] <brycew> Nope, I saw a bunch of messages before I plugged in
[12:32] <VSpike> brycew: sounds like a non-functional port or device then, I think.. not sure though
[12:32] <brycew> Hmmm... maybe I'll plug it into my other usb port :)
[12:32] <VSpike> brycew: try "dmesg | grep -i usb"
[12:33] <ubuntufan> guys .. please help!
[12:33] <ubuntufan> how can i acces a windows partition ?
[12:33] <draik> Does anyone have XMAME-X installed? I can't seem to play of the games in the archive of ROMs which I have downloaded.
[12:34] <draik> ubuntufan: Do you know how to mount a drive?