[00:11] <pjz> is there a guide/blog/post on how to use backportpackage?  I want to backport nim 1.4.x to LTS
[00:13] <sarnold> pjz: I used it once to build something and I think it really was as easy as this example in the manpage: backportpackage -u ppa:user/ppa znc
[00:14] <sarnold> do you have a ppa created already?
[00:21] <pjz> I do not. I don't really want a ppa, I just want to backport the package for personal use
[00:25] <pjz> oh, hm, I rememeberd old debian packaging foo and dpkg-buildpackage in my workingdir seems to be working
[00:25] <pjz> it had the wrong version (previous version, b/c I'm porting from impish to focal) of debhelpers
[00:27] <sarnold> pjz: ah, if you don't have a ppa already, then you could do the local biuld, and set up sbuild or pbuilder to do the build locally
[02:10] <Swift110-mobile> jpnurmi: would kdeconnect be helpful to you?
[03:30] <UsrLocalLibera> Can't speak?
[04:40] <tsujp> how can I find logs only from a specific facility? `tail -f /var/log/syslog` gives me all logs from all facilities, I just want those from `local0` only
[04:40] <tsujp> to read them that is
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> tsujp: syslog is the oldskool way, ubuntu uses journalctl -f now to see all system logs
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> !journalctl
[04:42] <tsujp> `journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=16` it appears to be where 16 is the code for local0
[04:45] <tsujp> So when using Docker should I use the syslog driver or the journald driver to put those logs into a specific facility
[04:45] <tsujp> the journald driver doesnt appear to have those options, the syslog one does
[04:45] <tsujp> the syslog one just worked so unsure if I _should_ try the journald
[04:49] <rbasak> journald abstracts log messages into structured key/value pairs
[04:50] <rbasak> So there's no specific "syslog facility" any more there
[04:50] <rbasak> SYSLOG_FACILITY is just a key
[04:50] <rbasak> And you can make your own up
[04:50] <rbasak> That's probably why you can't find anything specific about syslog facilities in your journald driver
[04:51] <rbasak> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/en/man7/systemd.journal-fields.7.html has details
[04:51] <tsujp> im talking specifically about this too https://docs.docker.com/config/containers/logging/journald/
[04:51] <tsujp> if thats the case I can try set SYSLOG_FACILITY with the `env` option?
[04:53] <rbasak> Why are you trying to set SYSLOG_FACILITY anyway?
[04:53] <rbasak> With journald it's just a compatibility thing. If you adopt journald completely, there's no point setting it.
[04:53] <tsujp> because I want logs from docker to go to a specific facility
[04:54] <tsujp> so I can log that facility in a cloud providers logging service
[04:55] <rbasak> As long as journald is hooked up to that then, I guess setting SYSLOG_FACILITY would work.
[04:55] <rbasak> I'm not sure it would be though?
[04:55] <rbasak> Depends on the service.
[04:56] <rbasak> Oh, apparently journald will forward messages.
[04:56] <rbasak> But then you'd be round tripping through journald, which seems pointless then. I'd use your syslog driver
[04:59] <tsujp> Gotcha, cheers
[05:00] <kiwichap> hello I have lost some apps on the icon
[05:00] <kiwichap> my ubuntu crashed and then I reset it and then I had to remove the ubuntu store updater snapstore
[05:01] <kiwichap> and some of the apps need to be started by build.sh command
[05:01] <tsujp> Also just to be clear if journald forwards to syslog will it forward the structured stuff it makes or the raw it received rbasak?
[05:04] <rbasak> tsujp: I'm not sure but I suspect you'll lose everything but the syslog compatibility fields and the message
[06:39] <makara> how can I change Gnome terminal's DEFAULT font?
[06:45] <makara> okkkkkkkk. Next question, why does gnome tweaks still feel like a hack
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | makara
[06:49] <user1> hi
[06:50] <user1> hii
[06:51] <rbasak> makara: GNOME Terminal supports multiple profiles. So you can just configure a profile to use the font you want, and set that profile to default.
[06:51] <rbasak> All through the configuration UI.
[06:51] <rbasak> (from the menu)
[06:54] <makara> it was rhetorical
[06:54] <makara> i have many profiles - dont want to set the font for each
[07:12] <Chan> hello
[07:13] <alkisg_web> Hello
[07:13] <Chan> has anybody done "LANG=C fakeroot debian/rules ARCH=arm64 CROSS_COMPILE=aarch64-linux-gnu- binary-headers binary-generic binary-perarch"?
[07:14] <Chan> This is for building ubuntu.
[07:16] <Chan> I'm seeing 'check-config: FAIL (- != y): CONFIG_STACKPROTECTOR_PER_TASK policy<{'arm64': 'y'}>' error message and how to do it.
[07:37] <cart_man> Is there a way I can stop my computer from giving apps the "away" signal if I havent moved my mouse in a while?
[07:42] <makara> cart_man: https://askubuntu.com/a/1228965/32006
[07:46] <cart_man> makara: ty ty
[08:44] <hossein_> hi ev1
[09:05] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> hey
[09:05] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> which file on ubuntu 18.04 has apache2 mime type?
[09:27] <olle> For sshd, must a "Match Group" setting be the LAST thing in the config??
[09:29] <olle> It works when it's the last statement, but fails when it's in the middle of the sshd_config file
[09:31] <olle> Hm
[09:32] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> https://askubuntu.com/questions/258780/how-to-add-mime-type-for-the-apache-webserver
[09:32] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> hey how do I do this for ubuntu 18.04
[09:33] <alkisg_web> olle, I faintly remember "yes"; I also tried to put it in sshd_config.d and I failed, and I reported it there: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=961007
[09:35] <olle> alkisg_web: Yeah, found a thread here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/67334/openssh-how-to-end-a-match-block
[09:36] <olle> Not related to the OS, but rather the ssh system itself, I guess
[09:36] <olle> Now all our ssh daemons failed ><
[09:49] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/65728301/how-to-use-es6-modules-on-apache-server
[09:49] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> this seem to don't work
[09:56] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> https://superuser.com/questions/553855/how-to-enable-mod-mime-on-apache2
[10:16] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/68192803/failed-to-load-module-script-expected-a-javascript-module-script-but-the-server
[13:04] <Guest4429> hello im getting the hdaudio .... could not bind codec error after installation or on live system (unless safe graphics mode) so every isntallation is unusable
[13:04] <Guest4429> i google but no avail.
[14:38] <Guest2169> Hello, I've just finished installing ubuntu and I cannot get it to boot. Can someone please help me?
[14:42] <ioria> Guest2169, boot again the Livecd and select 'try mode'
[14:43] <Guest2169> I can't my pc will not let me enter boot mode when i select f12 at the bios screen
[14:44] <ioria> bof
[15:57] <shimbles> I upgraded to hirsute on AWS and can no longer start Kubuntu sudo /usr/bin/startplasma-x11 # $DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the X server.
[16:01] <devslash> has anyone heard of Firefox causing a computer running Ubuntu 21.04 to shut down completely
[16:38] <funnybunny2> Hello
[16:38] <funnybunny2> Was this never fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openbios-sparc/+bug/1177369
[16:39] <funnybunny2> Not sure if related. Trying to use QEMU with sparc support. Did apt install qemu. Got this same error
[16:40] <funnybunny2> I get qemu: could not load prom 'openbios-sparc32' when running qemu-system-sparc
[16:42] <funnybunny2> I did apt install openbios-sparc and it fixed the problem
[16:43] <funnybunny2> Oh well
[16:46] <SirScott> with the disclaimer that i've never built .deb pkgs before, is it possible to generate packages for 18.04, 20.04 and 20.10 from a single 20.10 machine, or would I need to build on each target separately?
[16:47] <epi> I'm having an odd issue! I have a laptop on wifi that periodically loses internet access. It does not lose wifi access. Local ssh is fine, external pings to myself (external IP) periodically fail for several seconds before they start working. I am seeing random DNS errors (e.g. "Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'"). Other systems on the same wifi are not experiencing issues. Any advice where to look? (20.04)
[16:48] <shimbles> I upgraded to hirsute on AWS and can no longer start Kubuntu sudo /usr/bin/startplasma-x11 # $DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the X server.
[16:53] <ezakimak>  hostapd seems finnicky. sometimes it won't start. sometimes when it starts wps_bpc doesn't work, and sometimes it all works. I can't seem to figure out how to get deterministic behavior
[16:56] <alkisg_web> SirScott, if it's open source, you can upload it to launchpad in a ppa, and it'll build it for all supported ubuntu versions
[16:56] <SirScott> alkisg_web: it is not
[16:58] <alkisg_web> SirScott, in some cases the same .deb can be used in many versions, e.g. "viber.deb" works in 16.04 and up; otherwise you'll need to set up build chroots for each one of them
[17:03] <SirScott> alkisg_web: can those multiple build chroots be setup on a single machine?  e.g. a 20.10 machine would be able to build for itself, as well as for 18.04 and 20.04?
[17:03] <alkisg_web> SirScott, ye
[17:03] <alkisg_web> s
[17:05] <SirScott> alkisg_web: thanks for confirming that! https://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/chroots.html looks like the trick.
[17:06] <alkisg_web> SirScott, right, and there are also bigger programs for this like sbuild and pbuilder, but for simple things, a plain chroot is enough
[17:08] <SirScott> alkisg_web: ultimately i'll also need to build for debian as well. Seems like pbuilder might help tie all of these together into one dedicated build machine?
[17:09] <alkisg_web> SirScott, in all cases, you'll need a chroot for each of the build targets
[17:10] <alkisg_web> Even pbuilder uses chroots in the end
[17:11] <SirScott> alkisg_web: Excellent. Thank  you for the help!
[17:11] <alkisg_web> np
[17:12] <alkisg_web> SirScott, for very big tasks, you could also host a private installation of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Build_Service
[17:12] <alkisg_web> It's like PPAs but for many more distributions
[17:18] <SirScott> alkisg_web: Looks useful, I appreciate the pointer!
[17:24] <SirScott> alkisg_web: since you seem to be knowledgeable in this area... do you have recommendations for self-hosting the results of these builds?
[17:25] <shimbles> I upgraded to hirsute on AWS and can no longer start Kubuntu sudo /usr/bin/startplasma-x11 # $DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the X server.
[17:25] <shimbles> I checked Xorg.0.log: [    11.874] (II) VESA(0): Setting up VESA Mode 0x117 (1024x768) [    11.879] (EE) VESA(0): Invalid default visual class (32510) Fatal server error:[    11.879] (EE) AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0
[17:37] <alkisg_web> SirScott, any web server will do; you can maintain a repository with "reprepro"
[17:39] <SirScott> alkisg_web: looks easy enough!
[17:42] <SirScott> alkisg_web: Last question. There are already many debian machines in my infrastructure - can I build pkgs for Ubuntu on them?  It does look like I can build for Debian from Ubuntu...but if I don't have to install another OS, that'd be preferable.
[17:43] <alkisg_web> SirScott, sure, you just need ubuntu chroots on your debian machines
[17:43] <SirScott> alkisg_web: cool, wasn't sure if that was possible! Thanks!
[18:00] <goddard> so my system just crashed
[18:00] <goddard> i was able to log back in this time though
[18:00] <goddard> after ctrl alt 1
[18:00] <goddard> firefox crashed
[18:01] <goddard> not sure if it is the thing that took down my system?
[18:01] <goddard> but my gnome shell session was fine
[18:01] <goddard> all apps still open
[18:01] <goddard> but bluetooth keyboard and mouse aren't working
[18:01] <goddard> i assume i have to reboot to get it working?
[18:01] <goddard> how can i really figure out what the issue was?
[18:01] <tomreyn> epi: power management, driver, firmware (for this wireless device)
[18:06] <tomreyn> goddard: "this time" sounds like you've been discussing this here before - which i have not read. but you should certainly take a look at your logs, starting with dmesg. for dmesg from before you last rebooted, you do    journalctl -kb -1   and for important errors from before the latest reboot you do    journalctl -b -1 -p 3
[18:06] <tomreyn> if you want those for the current session, replace "-1" by "0"
[18:30] <epi> tomreyn: t, I'll take a looksy
[18:47] <change_name> hello
[18:48] <change_name> so i installed kubuntu 21.04 on my laptop as a dual boot setup; the issue is that periodically it will completely freeze. no prior warning at all. the mouse won't work, and reisub does not work
[18:48] <change_name> i installed kexec-tools or whatever it's called to hopefully get some sort of crash log
[18:49] <change_name> but i don't think it gets to that point
[18:49] <change_name> i did one cycle of memtest86
[18:49] <change_name> idk why memtest86+ isn't in GRUB
[18:51] <epi> yeh I had to make a usb stick just for memtest
[18:52] <tomreyn> change_name: the open source memtest86+ (memtest.org) is bios boot only, if you're uefi booting it would not work.
[18:52] <change_name> what's the difference
[18:52] <change_name> how would i run it then
[18:53] <change_name> but rn im using windows and i don't get the hangs
[18:53] <change_name> i have absolutely no clue how to isolate this issue
[18:54] <tomreyn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash
[18:54] <change_name> idk what goes wrong before it crashes
[18:54] <change_name> i swear to god all the PCs i have are cursed in their own way
[18:54] <change_name> and i just have to work around it
[18:55] <tomreyn> also update the mainboard firmware
[18:55] <change_name> let me see if there's any update 0_0
[18:55] <change_name> for my mobo
[18:59] <change_name> there is
[18:59] <change_name> i will keep you all posted
[19:19] <goddard> tomreyn thanks
[19:19] <goddard> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YcYV9rnCyC/
[19:20] <goddard> thats the journal for just today
[19:21] <tomreyn> goddard: and your ubuntu and kernel versions and hardware are?
[19:21] <goddard> here is part of the dmesg for bluetooth
[19:21] <goddard> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Bmst7JRdpC/
[19:21] <goddard> probably unrelated to the lock up
[19:21] <goddard> kern
[19:21] <goddard> Linux prismatic 5.11.0-22-generic #23-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 17 00:34:23 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:22] <goddard> hardware is x399
[19:23] <apteryx> Hello! I'm running a Qt application in a Ubuntu 20.04 VM.  I noticed high CPU usage, so ran callgrind on it, and it seems most CPU is used by the swrast_dri.so binary.   "Though generally affectionate, this bird has a strong beak and will use it on occasion. For this reason, it may not be the right choice for households with small children. "
[19:29] <tomreyn> !ot | morgans
[19:29] <morgans> oops. hexchat is at fault not me.
[19:29] <morgans> sorry sorry./
[19:30] <morgans> hi tomreyn ... this ubuntu install is still bogging down every two days, without the beeps. does it with chrome or firefox (many tabs).
[19:30] <morgans> 20.04
[19:32] <tomreyn> morgans: you're writing this like we discussed this before. i don't doubt that we did, but .. i'm afraid my memory is rather limited. please describe the full issue again, for the channel, if you're seeking assistence.
[19:36] <epi> hmm I see what looks like port 22 is open. I can ssh into my own system from myself, but if I try to ssh in from another system on the same network, I get a connection refused. I used ufw to allow ssh and then enabled ufw. What could I have missed?
[19:37] <apteryx> sarnold: OK, thanks
[19:37] <apteryx> i see that swrast is deprecated.  Is there a way to use something newer, perhaps more performant in Ubuntu 20.04 for virtualized graphics?
[19:38] <tomreyn> goddard: it's most likely unrelated, but your logs are filling up with the "foliate" snap trying to access /proc/zoneinfo, but failing to due to being a snap / contrained by apparmor. this is likely a bug in the snap, you could try to report, if you can find out how.
[19:38] <epi> As I try and fail to connect, I do not see any DROP counts increase in iptables.
[19:41] <goddard> tomreyn yeah it will probably be an issue when logs grow out of control
[19:42] <TJ-> epi: are the connections using IPv4 or IPv6 ?
[19:44] <TJ-> epi: also, is UFC using ip{,6}tables-legacy or ip{,6}tables-nft (netfilters)
[19:45] <epi> Not sure off the top of my head. I'm running iptables (not the 6) and seeing "UFW" named (rules?)
[19:45] <epi> I'm using ipv4 on the client side, if that matters :)
[19:52] <morgans> I am thinking the reason my computer slowsdowntofreezealmost is because an UPDATE NOW? window appears but neer comes to the front. It sucks all the now-ness out of the response.  Could that be true and if so what can I do about it?
[19:53] <morgans> just robooted 20.04
[19:56] <epi> My ssh iptables woes went away with a reboot
[20:23] <epi> Ah crap, after a few seconds the  ssh port started getting blocked
[20:29] <morgans> epi how do I tell if that is happening?
[20:30] <epi> When I invoke ssh user@my_ip from another machine, I now get the error port 22: Connection refused
[20:32] <epi> Right after a reboot, I was able to connect fine.. hmm
[20:37] <cbreak> ssh is more verbose with its output with -v, maybe that tells you more. If you have access to the machine, check if sshd is actually running
[20:37] <cbreak> systemctl status sshd
[20:41] <epi> cbreak: Yeah, I see with lsof that it's listening to 22 on ipv4 and 6
[20:42] <epi> The service log shows it got the initial connection earlier on, and now it doesn't see any new connection attempts
[20:42] <Muligan> hey fellas, working w/truenas & ubuntu 20.04lts, trying to establish a cifs connection, keep getting an error "No dialect specified on mount. Default has changed to a more secure dialect, SMB2.1 or later (e.g. SMB3), from CIFS (SMB1). To use the less secure SMB1 dialect to access old servers which do not support SMB3 (or SMB2.1) specify vers=1.0 on mount.
[20:42] <Muligan> "
[20:42] <Muligan> Any suggestions?
[20:43] <cbreak> check the log file of sshd.
[20:43] <epi> Ok i will. Just checked iptables-save and I see "-A ufw-user-input -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[20:43] <epi> "
[20:46] <epi> hah it's working again. let's see how long until it goes back to connection refused...
[20:52] <webchat86> I cant get Blania etcher, ISO flashing tool, to open on my Debian 10 LXDE system\
[21:07] <leftyfb> webchat86: maybe try #debian?
[21:08] <webchat86> True thanks
[21:09] <webchat86> Do you guys think Ubuntu is more secure by default than Debian
[21:09] <webchat86> Im thinking of installing Lubuntu
[21:09] <Mekaneck> Lubuntu uses LXQt these days iirc not lxde
[21:09] <webchat86> right
[21:09] <webchat86> What do you think is better
[21:10] <leftyfb> webchat86: you are welcome to try ubuntu. It's free
[21:10] <webchat86> LXQt or LXDE
[21:10] <webchat86> Yes
[21:10] <webchat86> I want lightweight so looking at Lubuntu
[21:10] <ezakimak> last comparison I read showed LXDE used about the same amount of ram as full on kde
[21:11] <Mekaneck> and how secure your system is depends on the end user
[21:11] <webchat86> holy sheeeeeeeee
[21:11] <webchat86> LXDE just as laggy as KDE?
[21:11] <webchat86> ?
[21:11] <ezakimak> or KDE got smaller
[21:11] <ezakimak> I think it was a phoronix or ars technica comparison
[21:11] <Mekaneck> ezakimak: KDE Plasma uses up between 950MB and 1GB of RAM
[21:11] <ezakimak> rather surprising results
[21:12] <ezakimak> the "lightweight" dms weren't as light as they claimed, and the full DEs weren't as heavy as thought either
[21:12] <morgans> epi thanks.
[21:12] <webchat86> https://www.hamishmb.com/blog/lxqt-review/
[21:12] <webchat86> LXDE was using like 256MB on a test I saw
[21:13] <goddard> damit system locked up again
[21:13] <goddard> i think i gotta install a different distro and see if it solves the issue
[21:14] <Mekaneck> good luck then
[21:14] <webchat86> https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-lean-linux-desktop-environment-lxde-vs-xfce-vs-mate/
[21:15] <ezakimak> it was forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/10/23/bold-prediction-kde-will-steal-the-lightweight-linux-desktop-crown-in-2020/
[21:15] <morgans> someone in the local linux group suggested xbuuntu rather than lubuntu
[21:15] <webchat86> https://www.maketecheasier.com/lxde-vs-xfce/
[21:15] <Mekaneck> webchat86: that's actually offtopic
[21:15] <webchat86> Hmm why?
[21:15] <webchat86> morgans
[21:15] <morgans> anyone here have a take on the efficiency of xubuntu?
[21:15] <morgans> aka is it lightweight?
[21:16] <winlundn> morgans: yes, it's like lubuntu
[21:16] <webchat86> xubuntu uses XFCE. XFCE uses double the RAM of LXDE
[21:16] <Mekaneck> try it from a live usb session and you'll know morgans ;)
[21:16] <webchat86> So I'll use Debian in LXDE Destktop environment
[21:16] <morgans> so not lightweight aka same as kde?
[21:16] <morgans> my HD laptop wouldnt display proprely in x or mate.
[21:16] <goddard> last i saw KDE was one of the most light weight
[21:17] <Mekaneck> kde isn't lightweight, it's about the same as gnome
[21:17] <webchat86> KDE uses the most ram I belive
[21:17] <morgans> ok thanks for that info goddard
[21:17] <Mekaneck> webchat86: as i said before, between 950 and 1GB of RAM
[21:17] <morgans> so none are lightweight. The discussion is a scam. (not here)
[21:18] <jailbreak> No it does not.
[21:18] <goddard> the most light weight is just use a console
[21:18] <goddard> no DE
[21:18] <jailbreak> Xfce is very lightweight.
[21:18] <Mekaneck> if you want to discuss DE's and Lightweightness it's best to do so in #ubuntu-discuss or offtopic
[21:19] <Mekaneck> this conversation has nothing to do with ubuntu support
[21:19] <jailbreak> 😂
[21:19] <Mekaneck> -_-
[21:19] <Mekaneck> typical...
[21:20] <morgans> I have 8 G of ram, that isnt my problem. 20.04  normal keep getting slow it might as well be frozen and I must hard-roboot. (dell computer) and I have no idea what is the problem. I have been wondering here and chasing cats up various trees for several months now. or a year... (time flies)
[21:20] <ezakimak> what does ram and swap usage look like?
[21:20] <morgans> Mekaneck, THERE IS A SUPPORT QUESTION FOR YOU.
[21:20] <morgans> oops
[21:21] <morgans> 20.04 no windows on the drive.
[21:35] <epi> Okay different problem I have is I can't get the HDMI output on this laptop to work. It's an intel controller, galago pro 3. I've previously had it working under Pop, but I did a complete wipe and putting ubuntu on for a media center / data storage setup.
[21:35] <epi> The monitor reports no signal over the HDMI, and there's nothing listed under the displays tab in settings
[21:36] <epi> lshw shows a UHD Graphics 620
[21:36] <webchat33> try another cable, and reinstall OS
[21:37] <epi> reinstalling the os is how I got here, I'll find another cable
[21:37] <leftyfb> webchat33: that's not helpful. IS there something we can help you with?
[21:39] <webchat33> Is ubuntu more secure/more updated/have a better security team than Debian
[21:40] <webchat33> Im on Debian, considering ubuntu
[21:40] <webchat33> Want the most secure OS
[21:40] <webchat33> by default
[21:41] <epi> Different cable, same issue.
[21:44] <cbreak> webchat33: what's your attack model?
[21:45] <webchat33> NSA
[21:46] <epi> xrandr doesn't even know the HDMI port exists.. that seems bad
[21:48] <epi> Oh neat, pcieport shows some errors in dmesg
[21:54] <epi> Okay I was able to clean up the dmesg a bit by setting pcie_aspm=off on the boot
[21:54] <epi> I see now I have an error about HDMI-A-2: EDID is invalid, so looking this up
[22:56] <hsv> xdg-open /tmp/html/index.html
[22:56] <hsv> gio: file:///tmp/html/index.html: No application is registered as handling this file
[22:57] <hsv> Hi, What's needed to make this ^ work?
[22:58]  * hsv already installed firefox.
[23:00] <hsv> running firefox directly on the same file works, it's just xdg-open that fails.
[23:21] <guiverc> rail77ff


[17:45] <pleia2> akgraner: if you get some time today, can you go through the google doc and do some gardening? I've been adding articles since our last release, and while it's been a slow news time with the holiday there still may be too many
[17:45] <pleia2> another pair of eyes before we send it off to summary writers tomorrow morning would be helpful :)
[17:46] <akgraner> pleia2, sure thing
[17:46] <pleia2> akgraner: also, were you able to get the google doc together last night?
[17:46] <pleia2> (wiki page review)
[17:47] <akgraner> I just need to copy it over - will do that as well - fixed my notes so you could understand my Amberisms
[17:47] <akgraner> I'll have it all done for you tonight :-)
[17:48] <akgraner> Pete's not home  -so I have free time :-)
[17:48] <pleia2> awesome, thank you
[17:48] <pleia2> hehe
[20:27] <AlanBell> hi all
[20:27] <AlanBell> the IRCC has issued a call for operators for the #lubuntu channel https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2012-January/001475.html
[20:27] <pleia2> thanks AlanBell
[20:28] <pleia2> want x-posted to fridge?
[22:34] <AlanBell> yes please pleia2
[22:36] <akgraner> pleia2, do you have time if not I can post it
[22:45] <akgraner> just didn't want to duplicate your efforts if you've already started on it
[22:49] <pleia2> akgraner: go for it (busy at work)
[22:49] <akgraner> on it
[22:49] <pleia2> ty
[22:53] <TDO|Aquina> Hello!
[22:54] <TDO|Aquina> Is it allowed to republish the RSS feed located on http://fridge.ubuntu.com/?
[23:14] <akgraner> They emailed the editors list I'll answer it there   - sorry I missed them
[23:15] <pleia2> I don't see a problem as long as they link back for each article
[23:15] <pleia2> simply copying w/o attribution isn't good
[23:22] <MobileDruif> akgraner: pleia2: date went well, very well :)
[23:22] <akgraner> :-)
[23:23] <akgraner> pleia2, yep that's what I was going to tell them - there are a couple of sites that republish the RSS Feed but they give attribution
[23:30] <MobileDruif> akgraner: what are you talking about?
[23:35] <pleia2> MobileDruif: glad to hear it!
[23:37] <MobileDruif> Thanks :D
[23:38] <pleia2> and re: akgraner, somone dropped by earlier (and sent an email) asking about whether they could aggregate the fridge on their site


[07:49] <fjaiohgae> Morning all, I just upgraded to 17.04 and I found few interesting behavior, but before I clam it's a bug I just wanted to confirm, the first is about the terminal here is it
[07:51] <fjaiohgae> when I used the Ctrl + Alt + T, which is a shortcut to a new terminal, I got a notification about it, to claim that it's "ready" however the first notification is just a decoy, and only the 2nd will give me the real new terminal, it's pretty small but pretty annoying behavior, so the question is this some new settings or it's a bug
[08:43] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:19] <popey> Good morning!
[09:20] <brobostigon> good morning
[09:28] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:41] <foobarry> been offline for a bit
[09:41] <foobarry> what's new?
[13:25] <diddledan> foobarry: new is a state for things that have not been around very long :-p
[13:25]  * diddledan ducks
[13:44] <diddledan> I'm finding myself using vim more and more
[13:44] <diddledan> think I'm turning into a neckbeard
[13:59] <davmor2> diddledan: no you are just growing up :P
[13:59] <diddledan> :-)
[13:59] <diddledan> my favourite command in vim atm is di" or da[ and variants
[14:00] <diddledan> d$ is pretty nice too
[14:01] <davmor2> diddledan: :%!xxd is useful too :D
[14:02] <diddledan> ooh, funky
[14:03] <davmor2> diddledan: also set wildmenu in .vimrc
[14:09] <zmoylan-pi> vim is the editor you hate till you find yourself using it more and more because all the other editors are worse
[15:31] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: to misquote churchill Vim is the worse text editor, except for all those others you try from time to time
[17:50] <m0nkey_> Myrtti: you about?
[17:52] <m0nkey_> Need to know if we're going to see you, D and L when we fly over Wednesday 😀 we'll be there for two weeks.
[18:16] <diddledan> random women keep retweeting my twitters. they also suggest I should go to a url for their adult profile
[18:25] <m0nkey_> I had that. I told one I was married and they all stopped.


[01:18] <blueyed> Hi. The status of the CVS import for https://launchpad.net/b2evolution/trunk is "Processing" since 2007-07-20 now.
[01:19] <blueyed> Can somebody take a look at it, please?
[04:02] <mpt> Goooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[06:50] <indraveni> hi all
[06:50] <indraveni> is launchpad available for free download ?
[06:51] <indraveni> I want to know whether there is a way to install launchpad in our premises and have all the database here , instead of registering our product in launchpad site
[06:51] <ScottK> indraveni: It's not Free Software.
[06:52] <stdin> yet (hopefully)
[06:55] <ScottK> It either is or isn't.  Once it is, it is, until then, it's not.
[06:58] <Odd_Bloke> ScottK: I don't think anyone was saying otherwise...
[06:58] <Hobbsee> ScottK's just bitter
[06:58] <stub> launchpad is designed to collaborate between projects, not used in isolation. If you don't want a central database there are probably better options available.
[06:59] <ScottK> Odd_Bloke: OK.  I just think the promises are completely irrelevant.  I respect the intent.
[07:03] <ScottK> Hobbsee: For LP, I'm not bitter.  I'm resentful.
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #141028 in rosetta "Translations should have "same as original" option" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141028
[07:11] <indraveni> stub, what are the other options that are available ?
[07:16] <ubotu> New bug: #145078 in launchpad "None of the footer links work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/145078
[07:35] <ScottK> Hello mpt.
[07:35] <ScottK> I do appreciate that my feedback is listened to and makes a difference.
[07:36] <ScottK> The resentful part is the amount of time I end up having to put into it.
[08:43] <carlos> morning
[08:54] <Hobbsee> hi carlos
[08:54] <Hobbsee> carlos: you're the translations guy, right?
[08:54] <carlos> Hobbsee: hi
[08:54] <carlos> one of them, yes
[08:55] <Hobbsee> carlos: we've got some problems with kubuntu docs with rosetta
[08:55] <Hobbsee> any chance you could poke them as required?
[08:56] <carlos> yeah, I saw the mails, but didn't have time to handle that, although I was planning to do it today...
[08:56] <Hobbsee> there are still 7 templates they havent uploaded yet for translations, i'm told.
[08:56] <Hobbsee> carlos: cool, OK.  obviously, we'd like them done, as they're kubuntu release notes...
[08:56] <Hobbsee> so it's rather time critical
[08:57] <carlos> yeah, don't worry, this week I'm trying to cleanup the queue
[08:57] <Hobbsee> carlos: cool, thanks
[08:57] <carlos> although having a list of renamed templates would be useful, do you know it?
[08:58] <Hobbsee> carlos: i dont, sorry.  the guy has gone to bed now
[08:58] <carlos> ok
[08:59] <Hobbsee> carlos: apparently one is the kubuntu index.
[08:59] <Hobbsee> but i dont have info apart from that
[08:59] <carlos> there are 6 templates pending to be imported, three are already auto approved
[09:00] <carlos> another one is there from previous versions so is not a big problem, and there are two others that seem to be renames...
[09:00] <carlos> ok, I think is easy enough
[09:00] <carlos> Hobbsee: thanks for remind me it
[09:00] <Hobbsee> carlos: no problem, thanks for fixing :)
[09:00] <carlos> np
[09:46] <mrevell> mornin gall
[09:47] <Hobbsee> mrevell!
[09:47] <mrevell> hey Hobbsee :)
[09:58] <dneary> Hi all
[09:58] <mrevell> hi dneary
[09:59] <dneary> Is there an official way to send announcements of translations opening to launchpad translators?
[09:59] <dneary> Or is that considered spam of the worst kind?
[09:59] <dneary> mrevell: Didn't you leave the LUGRadio crowd?
[09:59] <mrevell> dneary: I certainly did
[09:59] <mrevell> dneary: Didn't have time to do everything :)
[10:00] <dneary> I guess only Jono does...
[10:00] <mrevell> dneary: yeah :)
[10:00] <dneary> What with his warping space-time
[10:01] <mrevell> dneary: Your translations announcement: do you want to send a mail to everyone in a translations team?
[10:03] <dneary> Yup
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #145111 in launchpad "Obsolete CVS details much more prominent than real bzr trunk" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/145111
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #145113 in launchpad "Nowhere to register where to obtain releases" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/145113
[10:12] <mrevell> dneary: There isn't a way to do that directly, at the moment. Obviously you could go through each person's profile and lift the email address from those where it's not hidden.
[10:12] <mrevell> dneary: Let me just double-check there isn't another way, though.
[10:14] <carlos> dneary: no, we don't have yet a way to send notifications to the whole team
[10:17] <darian> hi
[10:17] <darian> i need a admin
[10:18] <darian> i want to delete my project because lunchpad is not the right thing for our problem
[10:18] <darian> please query me
[10:18] <darian> the project is called "adviki"
[10:19] <mrevell> dneary: Yes, sorry, to confirm, there isn't an easy way right now.
[10:19] <mrevell> darian: Hi - please file a request at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion and one of our admins will help you.
[10:19] <darian>  https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion thx
[10:20] <mrevell> darian: Could I ask why you feel Launchpad isn't right for you? Perhaps there's some way I can help.
[10:21] <darian> i have a wiki
[10:21] <darian> and we search a tool for manage the admins and the todos for the wiki
[10:21] <darian> but lunchpad is for "real" softwork with versions and so on
[10:22] <darian> is not bad but absolutly false for our problems
[10:24] <darian> ok?
[10:24] <darian> ?
[11:05] <dneary> OK - thanks Matthew
[11:05] <dneary> (back, was away)
[11:55] <dneary> I'm trying to change the "current development focus" to a series I just created in Launchpad - and I can't figure out where that gets done.
[11:55] <dneary> Perhaps I don't have sufficient permissions?
[12:07] <dneary> Do I need to be a driver to do that?
[12:36] <iwj> BjornT: Did you manage to figure out what was happening to my mails ?
[12:38] <BjornT> iwj: sorry, not yet, i'm a bit busy this week with a sprint, but it's on my todo
[01:40] <sabdfl> dneary: which project?
[02:10] <dneary> sabdfl: wengophone
[02:10] <dneary> was away for lunch
[02:20] <TomaszD> carlos, what is the hack that allows me to view more than 10 strings on one page in rosetta?
[02:21] <TomaszD> I know it was something with modyfing the url
[02:21] <ubotu> New bug: #145190 in malone "Upstream source import: CVS & SVN text fields disabled" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/145190
[02:22] <noideayet> Help!
[02:22] <carlos> TomaszD: add batch=XXX to the list of arguments
[02:22] <carlos> where XXX is the number of messages you want
[02:22] <noideayet> I need to conosolidate 2 accounts, but I do not remember the email I used for one of them!
[02:22] <carlos> TomaszD: say that, if you put a high number there, you will get many timeout errors
[02:22] <noideayet> *merge
[02:23] <carlos> noideayet: do you remember the launchpad id of both accounts ?
[02:23] <TomaszD> carlos, so for example I have https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/gnome-system-tools/+pots/gnome-system-tools/pl/+translate?start=90
[02:23] <noideayet> carlos, id, no. One is ~niy and one is ~ffm
[02:23] <TomaszD> how do I add it? just &batch=100 ?
[02:23] <carlos> TomaszD: yes
[02:23] <noideayet> carlos, I want ~ffm to be the primary.
[02:23] <TomaszD> ok
[02:23] <carlos> yeah, that's the id
[02:24] <noideayet> And I do not remember the email i used with ~ffm
[02:24] <carlos> noideayet: I guess that means that you are not able to login into that account, right?
[02:25] <noideayet> carlos, yes.
[02:25] <carlos> noideayet: you will need an admin then
[02:26] <noideayet> Where can I find one, carlos ?
[02:26] <ubotu> New bug: #145192 in launchpad-bazaar "cvs and subversion fields disabled in series/+source form" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/145192
[02:26] <carlos> stub: could you help noideayet ?
[02:26] <carlos> noideayet: https://launchpad.net/~admins/+members
[02:27] <carlos> noideayet: another option and more reliable is to file a ticket on https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[02:30] <noideayet> carlos, thanks.
[02:30] <carlos> np
[02:31] <stub> noideayet: Its a @gmail.com email address.
[02:32] <stub> Doesn't the password recovery get the relevant details to you?
[02:33] <noideayet> stub, no , it only gives me the info for ~niy. I think I uses the same email for both.
[02:34] <noideayet> I could auth with one of my keys...
[02:34] <stub> Hmm... insists on email address. I wonder if that is deliberate or if it accepts Launchpad nick?
[02:34] <carlos> noideayet: I don't think launchpad allows you that
[02:34] <noideayet> but I have one of my keys on file.
[02:34] <noideayet> I can sign a message with it to prove I Am the owner of the key.
[02:35] <noideayet> I have both keys in my keychain.
[02:36] <stub> I've sent a password forgotten reminder to the ~niy account
[02:37] <noideayet> I know the password for ~niy
[02:38] <stub> There is only a deactivated GPG key for ~niy
[02:38] <stub> If you know the password for ~niy, you can log in and see your email address.
[02:39] <stub> Log in as 'niy' rather than using an email address should work fine.
[02:39] <noideayet> I need to log in as ffm.
[02:40] <stub> Ok. I've sent a password forgotten email to that one.
[02:41] <stub> Otherwise if you can sign some text with that GPG key and pastebin it somewhere that should be fine.
[02:42] <noideayet> stub, can you tell me which email the password was sent to?
[02:43] <stub> Or I could just tell you the email address since it is actually public (despite the private flag being set on it), because it is exposed in your GPG key
[02:43] <stub> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x757408F6&op=index
[02:45] <noideayet> got it.
[02:49] <noideayet> Finished the merge
[02:53] <noideayet> stub, thanks!
[03:01] <ubotu> New bug: #145206 in launchpad "Long team membership lists make it hard to find pending members" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/145206
[03:11] <jjesse> is it just me or is launchpad running slow today?
[03:12] <sabdfl> dneary: did you figure out how do do it, or do you want me to take a look?
[03:12] <dneary> sabdfl: Didn't get any answers
[03:12] <dneary> So the questions still stands
[03:13] <dneary> I just haven't been able to find the menu entry, and I think that the last time it was done (for the 2.1 branch), it was alkylyn that did it
[03:13] <ddaa> jjesse: there seems to be some sort of problem with the data center
[03:14] <jjesse> ddaa: oh ok, just wondered if my connection was having problems or something
[03:14] <Balaams_Miracle> Ah, so i'm not the only one. That rules out my ISP messing things up
[03:16] <ddaa> As far as I can tell, ubuntu.com, canonical.com and launchpad.net just fell off the net. Our sysadmins are investigating. You might want to check #canonical-sysadmin for updates (please be quiet, they are busy fixing the network).
[03:18] <sidnei> hey there, is launchpad down?
[03:18] <sidnei> im getting timeouts here :(
[03:18] <ddaa> there is a network problem
[03:19] <ddaa> sysadmins are investigating
[03:19] <sidnei> ok, thank you!
[03:29] <mrevell> ddaa: Ah, we're back I believe
[03:30] <ddaa> looks like
[03:30] <ddaa> mrevell: feel free to update the topic, but I'd rather wait until we have confirmation that the problem is solved.
[03:31] <mrevell> ddaa: Yeah, absolutely right to wait
[03:32] <Pici> Do we know what the problem was?
[03:32] <ddaa> I'm sure mrevell will write an enlightening message once we know :)
[03:32] <mrevell> i shall :)
[03:32] <mrevell> to launchpad-users
[03:33] <iwj> It's still broken for me.
[03:33] <ddaa> looks down again
[03:33] <sidnei> i second that
[03:35] <barry> yes, it's very slow for me too
[03:36] <iwj> I just got ECONNTIMEDOUT.
[03:37] <mwh> barry: is there a review meeting in 23 minutes?
[03:37] <mwh> i would check the wiki, but...
[03:37] <barry> mwh: hopefully ;)
[03:37] <mwh> right
[03:38] <barry> actually, yes.  i managed to get a page with the agenda so unless everyone's off fighting fires, we should still have it
[03:39] <jjesse> agreed
[03:39] <jjesse> doh wrong channel
[03:54] <sabdfl> (14:33:59) sabdfl: dneary: you want 2.2 as the development focus?
[03:54] <sabdfl> (14:35:03) sabdfl: the page you want is https://edge.launchpad.net/wengophone/+edit
[03:55] <dneary> sabdfl: Yes, please
[04:00] <flacoste> barry: meeting time?
[04:01] <barry> hello everyone and welcome to this week's launchpad reviewer team meeting.  for the next 45 minutes or less we'll be talking about the launchpad code review process
[04:01] <barry> Agenda
[04:01] <barry>     * Roll call
[04:01] <barry>     * Next meeting
[04:01] <barry>     * Action items
[04:01] <barry>     * Queue status
[04:01] <barry>     * Mentoring update
[04:02] <barry> so, let's get started...
[04:02] <barry>     * Roll call
[04:02] <mwh> here
[04:02] <barry> who's here today?
[04:02] <statik> me
[04:02] <sinzui> me
[04:02] <salgado> me
[04:02] <bac> me
[04:02] <flacoste> me
[04:03] <flacoste> BjornT is sprinting
[04:03] <barry> cool.
[04:03] <barry> intellectronic1, intellectronica: ping
[04:04] <flacoste> intellectronica is also sprinting i think
[04:04] <barry> flacoste: cool, thanks
[04:04] <barry>     * Next meeting
[04:04] <barry> same time and place?  does anyone know they will not be here?
[04:05] <barry> 5
[04:05] <barry> 4
[04:05] <barry> 3
[04:05] <barry> 2
[04:05] <intellectronic1> me
[04:05] <barry> 1
[04:05] <intellectronic1> (sprinting, but sine i didn't apologized in advance i'll try to pay attention)
[04:05] <barry> intellectronic1: cool thanks.
[04:06] <barry>     * Action items
[04:07] <barry> so we had a few people volunteer to do things last week and i just wanted to review them.  first, let me apologies for not sending last week's meeting minutes.  they were sitting on a machine in a state of semi-upgradedness ;)
[04:07] <barry> i've updated the wiki and will email the minutes for last week and this week later today
[04:07] <barry> anyway,..
[04:07] <barry> Actions from the last meeting:
[04:07] <barry>     * flacoste to add a reviewer's checklist page
[04:07] <flacoste> done
[04:07] <barry> flacoste: thanks!  can you remind folks of the url?
[04:08] <flacoste> i sent an email to the review list to request feedback<
[04:08] <statik> that has been useful for me already
[04:08] <flacoste> https://launchpad.canonical.com/CodeReviewChecklist
[04:08] <mwh> yes, i thought it was nice
[04:08] <intellectronic1> i promised to get the review_tools into mainline, but haven't finished that yet. sorry! will get that done asap
[04:08] <barry> me too. great job flacoste.  has anybody /not/ read that page yet?
[04:09] <barry> cool.
[04:09] <sinzui> Me
[04:09] <bac> me
[04:09] <salgado> me
[04:09] <kiko> ahoy there
[04:09] <barry> definitely take a look when you get a chance.  it's really helpful
[04:10] <barry> intellectronic1: that was the next action item.  it's a great week0 task :)
[04:10] <barry>     * barry to add a page for mentors and recruits
[04:10] <barry> https://launchpad.canonical.com/MentorProcess
[04:11] <barry> feel free to read it and comment or update it.  discuss on launchpad-reviews if there are questions/comments
[04:11] <barry>     * sinzui to help make lint.sh better by updating pylint.
[04:11] <sinzui> Not done. I'll have bug 141317 in review  by Monday
[04:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 141317 in launchpad "Add pylint as a make target" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/141317 - Assigned to Curtis Hovey (sinzui-is)
[04:11] <mwh> barry: can you (or did you?) send a mail to launchpad-reviews inviting comments?
[04:12] <barry> sinzui: rock on
[04:12] <barry> mwh: i might have forgotten :(
[04:12] <barry> mwh: i'll do that after this meeting
[04:12] <mwh> barry: thanks
[04:13] <barry> mwh: thanks for poking me about it :)
[04:13] <barry>     * barry will try to find someone to work on [WWW]  bug 113626 to extend pending-reviews to run make lint for us.
[04:13] <barry>     * barry will coordinate for reviewer's sprint at all-hands
[04:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 113626 in launchpad "pending-reviews should run and display the output of make lint" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/113626
[04:13] <barry> no progress on that.  i suck.
[04:13] <bac> sinzui: do we need to add pylint to launchpad-developer-dependencies package?
[04:14] <sinzui> bac: That's one option. I was thinking of adding it to our source because gutsy will still be several revs behind the current release.
[04:14] <bac> sinzui: right.
[04:15] <barry>     * Queue status
[04:16] <barry> i'm able to get to PendingReviews now :)  salgado, i think you did a bunch of assignments yesterday, right?  the general queue looks pretty good.
[04:16] <ubotu> New bug: #145223 in launchpad "Reset Password page unusable on IE7" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/145223
[04:16] <salgado> barry, yep, I did yesterday afternoon. will do more today
[04:16] <barry> salgado: awesome, thanks.  good to see the earlybirds getting their .10 branches posted :)
[04:16] <mwh> i should point out that my ubuntu machine is out of action (dead hd)
[04:17] <mwh> should get it back tomorrow, but i can't really review anything until friday, i expect
[04:17] <barry> mwh: thanks for the update
[04:18] <barry> we currently have 7 branches in needs-review over sla
[04:18] <barry> jamesh has a pretty old one of tim's but it's in conflict
[04:18] <barry> as is intellectronic1's branch that sinzui has
[04:19] <barry> anything else to say about the queue?
[04:19] <sinzui> intellectronic1's branch is a victim of enums. It's not too bad
[04:19] <barry> sinzui: excellent. those are easy to resolve
[04:20] <intellectronic1> sinzui: whoops, sorry, will resolve later today after we finish sprinting
[04:20] <barry> it'll be nice when we finish that conversion and can stop worrying about conflicts there
[04:20] <kiko> barry, there should be few open tasks on that bug, right?
[04:20] <barry> kiko: which bug?
[04:21] <kiko> the enums bug.
[04:21] <sinzui> I thought everyone would 'sprint' to get those converted.
[04:21] <barry> i don't know who still has conversions to do
[04:22] <statik> I've got a conversion in my review queue for translations
[04:22] <intellectronic1> malone still has a few. i started on them, and will finish before the end of the week
[04:22] <sinzui> slow conversions make extra work because of the afore mentioned conflicts
[04:22] <barry> kiko: maybe bring this up at tomorrow's meeting?
[04:22] <barry> kiko: wasn't there a deadline of .10 to finish the conversions?
[04:22] <kiko> barry, yes, I'm sure it'll happen
[04:23] <barry> cool
[04:23] <barry> anything else on the queue?
[04:23] <bac> that'll be a good week 0 fix it friday task
[04:23] <barry> 5
[04:23] <barry> 4
[04:23] <barry> 3
[04:23] <barry> 2
[04:23] <barry> 1
[04:23] <barry>     * Mentoring update
[04:24] <barry> does anybody have comments, questions, problems, blockers, kudos, enlightenment, fears, uncertainty, or doubt?
[04:24] <sinzui> None from me
[04:24] <flacoste> no
[04:24] <barry> are any recruits blocking on mentor reviews?
[04:25] <barry> 5
[04:25] <barry> 4
[04:25] <barry> 3
[04:25] <barry> 2
[04:25] <barry> 1
[04:26] <barry> okay, that's it from me.  anything not on the agenda or shall we end early? :)
[04:26] <barry> silence == assent
[04:26] <barry> MEETING ENDS
[04:26] <barry> thanks everyone!
[04:27] <salgado> thanks barry
[04:27] <kiko> thanks
[04:27] <intellectronic1> thanks barry
[04:27] <bac> assent == death?
[04:27] <bac> thanks barry
[04:27] <mwh> thanks barry
[04:27] <flacoste> thanks
[04:27] <ScottK> I noticed that pylint came up during your meeting.  If someone would ask for an upstream version freeze exception for pylint, it'd probably be approved for Gutsy.
[04:28] <kiko> ScottK, I asked one for pyflakes a bit back -- I spoke to ajmitch about it
[04:29] <ScottK> Right.  There's an outstanding bug asking for pylint, but it doesn't have the needed info for a UVFe.  It seems reasonable to me to do it, but I'd like to have all the info.
[04:29] <ScottK> Seems to me it'd be better for you all to get it into Gutsy rather than maintain your own version separately.
[04:29] <kiko> ScottK, do you have the bug handy?
[04:29] <ScottK> No.
[04:29] <sinzui> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pylint/+bug/141013
[04:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 141013 in pylint "Gutsy should use a new pylint package" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[04:30] <kiko> thanks
[04:30] <ScottK> That one.
[04:30] <ScottK> IIRC ajmitch mentioned there were two other packages that would need to be updated too.
[04:30] <ScottK> I don't recall which.
[04:31] <sinzui> that's right. most of the pylint improvements are in their underlying packages.
[04:32] <ScottK> In any case, it takes someone taking the time to make sure it all builds and works correctly.  You'll have to to that work anyway if you maintain it separately.
[04:33] <ScottK> It'd be nice to get it into Gutsy so everyone benifits ....
[04:33] <kiko> good point.
[04:34] <ScottK> As a motu-uvf person, I'm inclined to approve it if it all works out, just need someone to do the legwork first....
[04:36] <sinzui> ScottK: and that means Gutsy amd64 and i386 testing?
[04:37] <kiko> ScottK, I might ask ajmitch again, he has helped me reliably before :)
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #145240 in launchpad-cscvs "Cannot import whole repository" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/145240
[05:29] <Odd_Bloke> Does anyone know of a good way to get an IRC notification when a LP branch is committed to?
[05:30] <dneary> It appears I don't have permissions. Will have to hassle someone else.
[05:32] <mwh> Odd_Bloke: get your bot a launchpad account, subscribe it to the branch
[05:32] <mwh> (then it will get email)
[05:32] <Odd_Bloke> mwh: OK, thanks. :)
[05:53] <ScottK> sinzui: For Python apps testing on any one arch should be sufficient.
[05:54] <sinzui> ScottK: That was not my experience running an AMD64 for Feisty, with Python 2.4 and Python 2.5
[05:54] <sinzui> ScottK: That was a bad 3 weeks ;/
[05:55] <ScottK> sinzui: Unless the application in question has C extensions or addresses memory directly, I'd expect it to be OK, but for those cases, yes.
[05:55] <ScottK> I don't think any of that applies to pylint and friends.
[08:14] <pochu> BjornT: matsubara: what do you think about bug 137997?
[08:14] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 137997 in malone "+filebug-advanced should have Importance, Status and Assigne fields" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/137997
[08:15] <matsubara> pochu: in the past I'd like to have such feature but nowadays I don't use the advanced form anymore. the duplicate finder feature is just too good to not use it.
[08:16] <matsubara> pochu: but I think there's another bug requesting something similar
[08:16] <pochu> Oh, is there?
[08:16] <pochu> But I do use it, and probably some people does too. And more will do if that bug is fixed ;)
[08:18] <matsubara> pochu: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/89146
[08:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 89146 in malone "Combine simple and "complicated" bug-reporting forms (using Ajax)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[08:19] <matsubara> pochu: and there's some discussion about adding tags while filing a new bug in bug 54359
[08:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 54359 in malone "We should be able to add tags while reporting bugs." [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/54359
[08:27] <pochu> matsubara: thanks. commented on 54359
[08:28] <matsubara> thank you pochu
[08:29] <pochu> matsubara: I'd like to see those two bugs fixed :-)
[08:32] <matsubara> pochu: I don't care anymore for 54359. You can use the simple form like: +filebug?field.tag=foo and the tag foo will be added. It'd be nice to have 89146 fixed, though
[08:37] <pochu> matsubara: I'm not sure I understand it well... Does it say when you fill a field, then another is showed?
[08:42] <ubotu> New bug: #98396 in launchpad "testbrowser resolves relative URLs incorrectly" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98396
[08:50] <matsubara> pochu: the way I see it, it'd work like when you file an issue in a code.google.com hosted project. If you're the owner or is related to the project in some way you'd have all the fields (importance, assignee, etc) but collapsed by default.
[08:51] <pochu> matsubara: and if you open them, do they open all at a time, or one by one?
[08:52] <pochu> I think all of them should be opened at one time.
[08:56] <matsubara> scratch "collapsed by default". if you're not related to the project, you'd not have the fields available and if you're the form would show all the advanced fields.
[08:57] <pochu> Nice. Go for it then! :)
[08:59] <jamesie> Hi, I wanted to report a bug last week but my registration didn't complete. I got a confirmation today but it looks like I now have 2 launchpad accounts one orphan wiki/JamesCooley the new one with wiki/JamesCooley2. Is this hard to fix or are there two of us?
[09:00] <matsubara> jamesie: what's you Launchpad id?
[09:01] <RainCT> hi
[09:02] <RainCT> I can't push (bzr) to launchpad because of some lock error (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38692/), any idea how to fix it?
[09:02] <jamesie> I think i used<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to register?
[09:06] <mwh> RainCT: bzr break-lock sftp://whatever/whatever
[09:14] <matsubara> jamesie: you can merge both your accounts. Log in with the account you want to keep and request a merge in: https://launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge
[09:14] <RainCT> mwh: thanks! :)
[09:15] <pochu> matsubara: do you have an stimated ETA for that bug? (combine bug reporting forms)
[09:15] <pochu> s/stimated/estimated/
[09:16] <matsubara> pochu: sorry, nope. BjornT would know.
[09:17] <pochu> BjornT: same question ^ :-)
[09:17] <pochu> matsubara: thanks for the info!
[09:18] <matsubara> pochu: yw
[09:24] <jamesie> matsubara: Thanks, I'll give that a shot.
[12:27] <jamesie> Sln


 https://www.scarlettgatelymoore.dev/kubuntu-kde-report-in-loving-memory-of-my-son/
[18:27] <arraybolt3> sgmoore: ❤ Love what you're doing, so sorry about your son..
 Thank you


[23:28] <bekks> Forget that, use ssh -X
[23:28] <bekks> Telnet deserves to be extincted.
[23:28] <delt> i'm so stuck in my old ways :D
[23:28] <bekks> Then you should know that telnet doesnt support what you are trying to do.
[23:29] <delt> yeah it does if the DISPLAY environment is set, and the target (server) machine accepts them
[23:29] <delt> been using that for years
[23:29] <bekks> delt: Then you hzave to configure the X server to listen on an IP.
[23:29] <bekks> And thats not the default in Ubuntu.
[23:29] <delt> that's quite clear =)
[23:30] <delt> bekks: been using slackware since the mid 90's
[23:30] <delt> :)
[23:30] <MrJerome> Is it possible to control Kazam screen recorder programmatically like with python?
[23:30] <bekks> delt: That doesnt mean much in here :)
[23:30] <Viking667> hullo everyone. I bought a new-ish Dolby headset yesterday (Plantronics Gamecom 780), and now I'm trying to figure out how to get "Line-in" from my motherboard sound to get pushed to the headset instead of the speakers. Does anyone know where I should look?
[23:31] <delt> bekks: this is a private network, there's no cause for being paranoid with my setup
[23:32] <Random832> Viking667: the mixer app should have a "jack sense" setting
[23:32] <fernando> @viking have you tried alsamixer?
[23:32] <Viking667> haha. Yes.
[23:32] <Viking667> that doesn't redirect sound streams.
[23:32] <fernando> oops, sorry
[23:33] <delt> to disable it, use --jackoff commandline (hee hee)
[23:33] <Random832> Viking667: some sound cards have a "jack sense" setting that will make the speakers mute when headphones are plugged in, you need to enable it, it's a checkbox in alsamixer
[23:33] <urgency> Is anyone having a problem with the system locking up after unlocking the screen/changing the lock settings?
[23:33] <Viking667> er.... the issue's more complicated than that, Random832
[23:34] <Random832> i'm not sure how
[23:34] <Random832> did you plug it in right?
[23:34] <Viking667> motherboard has a 7.1 output, with several analog outputs.
[23:34] <Viking667> the headset is USB, and shows up separately.
[23:34] <Random832> oh
[23:34] <Random832> uh, you using pulseaudio?
[23:34] <Viking667> motherboard's line-in happily goes to either speakers or to headphones, with no issues.
[23:34] <Viking667> What I want is for it to come out of the USB headset.
[23:35] <Random832> what sound system are you using? pulse?
[23:35] <Viking667> Yah.I'm afraid so.
[23:35] <Viking667> after all, it's Ubuntu I'm dealing with. 13.10 here.
[23:36] <Random832> so what happens when you go into sound settings
[23:36] <Random832> there's a list of playback devices
[23:37] <Random832> sorry i'm on lubuntu so i don't remember the exact screen
[23:37] <Krafty> Hi
[23:37] <Viking667> Random832: hm. pavucontrol, right?
[23:37] <Random832> no idea
[23:38] <Viking667> well. pavucontrol certainly shows me inputs and outputs, but no way to direct input to specific outputs.
[23:39] <eksip> what difference between ubuntu and Lubuntu?
[23:39] <Viking667> uses lxde
[23:39] <Beldar> eksip, different desktops, look on the web it is shown definitively there
[23:40] <vithic> eksip, that would be the desktop environment. Did you check some screenshots? :)
[23:40] <eksip> no one :) juist asked
[23:41] <auberginer> 73s7
[23:41] <__no_collisions_> \quit
[23:41] <auberginer> guuuuut
[23:43] <hitsujiTMO> eksip: also different sets of applications. lubuntu comes with lighter equivalents to ubuntu apps. i.e. abi-word instead of openoffice
[23:43] <urgency> my system keeps freezing, any advice? this just started happening today after installing updates...
[23:44] <Xiaolin> eksip: Ubuntu Kubuntu Lubuntu *Ubuntu comes in a all shapes and sizes, most notable difference being the desktop managers (lxde, gnome, unity, xfce, kde) so if you really wanna know the difference just research the different desktop managers.
[23:44] <eksip> urgency,  htop  to see what freezing your pc
[23:45] <eksip> and then pkill for ever
[23:45] <urgency> eksip: it's not a runaway process.
[23:45] <urgency> eksip: the whole system locks up, i can access other tty and run top, but nothing seems amiss.
[23:45] <funky1> xatr0z: i don't use gnome, though rarely i log into unity, which maybe makes use of gvfs?
[23:45] <eksip> Xiaolin thanx, i have the sluckbox couple years ago so i get it
[23:46] <urgency> eksip: it seems to happen most often after unlocking the screen. if the system is idle for 10 mins, i enter password to unlock and it freezes 30 seconds later.
[23:46] <Viserion> hi
[23:46] <_1_Zanoni> hi
[23:47] <TuN> Can any one help me, I try to run psybnc with oidentd support, and the process automatically gets killed
[23:48] <TuN> when i compile it without oidentd support, it works fine
[23:48] <TuN> I am not an expert in ubuntu
[23:48] <TuN> can any one help in that matter
[23:51] <Atlantic777> any fglrx and xorg gurus around? I'm having troubless with dual head setup with proprietary drivers and discrete graphics card.
[23:51] <Beldar> !details | Atlantic777
[23:51] <Viking667> first question, does the driver support your card?
[23:51] <Atlantic777> With intel graphics it worked ok, except I couldn't use built in monitor and 2 more displays.
[23:51] <Atlantic777> Yes it supports and it works well if I clone displays.
[23:52] <Atlantic777> The problem is when I want to have displays side by side, btw I use awesome wm.
[23:52] <Viking667> I use xrandr for all of that...
[23:52] <Viking667> so, fire up a terminal, check what outputs xrandr shows you.
[23:52] <Atlantic777> I did and awesome wm gets confused, it shows some content on both displays.
[23:52] <Viking667> yeah, we'll get to that.
[23:52] <TuN> if a process automatically gets killed
[23:52] <Atlantic777> Xrandr output is ok, ok resoulutions and offsets.
[23:53] <TuN> how can I check what happened
[23:53] <TuN> or why it got killed
[23:53] <Viking667> that's not the question I asked.
[23:53] <Viking667> Atlantic777: it shows three separate outputs, right?
[23:53] <Atlantic777> Do you want to see xrandr output?
[23:53] <Atlantic777> https://paste.lugons.org/show/dxDIvNXPhSKFByzIw2Dp/
[23:53] <Viking667> that would be nice, thank you.
[23:54] <Atlantic777> And when I try to make screenshot with "import", it looks fine. :)
[23:54] <Atlantic777> Btw, awesome wm config is ok, because it worked well with intell driver.
[23:54] <Viking667> sigh. just wait.
[23:54] <Atlantic777> ok
[23:55] <Viking667> xrandr --output HDMI1 --right-of VGA1
[23:55] <Viking667> see what that does.
[23:55] <thinmint> TuN check out some of the files in /var/log/ one might be able to help
[23:55] <Atlantic777> Viking667: xrandr is after I did that.
[23:55] <TuN> thinmint
[23:55] <TuN> any particular file?
[23:55] <Atlantic777> and result is messed up
[23:55] <Viking667> so. is LVDS1 the primary screen?
[23:55] <Atlantic777> LVDS is turned off at the moment
[23:56] <Viking667> hm.
[23:56] <thinmint> TuN could be called messages
[23:56] <Atlantic777> And if I try to turn it on, I get the same error as with intel driver, something about crtc.
[23:56] <Viking667> so, do you have mirrored output on the VGA screen and the HDMI screen?
[23:56] <seme> hey guys.... what package is the smbfs program part of?  i can't find it
[23:56] <thinmint> not 100% on what it would be called
[23:56] <Viking667> seme: look at samba
[23:57] <Atlantic777> Viking667: it's not actually mirrored, it messed up. I can try to take a picture of it with my camera because screenshot is representing actual situation.
[23:58] <TuN> thinmint
[23:58] <TuN> messages file is there
[23:58] <TuN> should i just pico it?
[23:59] <TheLordOfTime> !enter | TuN
[23:59] <thinmint> TuN that should work fine or use grep to look for the program
[23:59] <TuN> oh ok, sorry. will keep that in mind ubottu.
[23:59] <xatr0z> funky1: wow then i misunderstood, then you shouldnt remove it


[00:34] <bkerensa> pleia2: both the links in the CC's call for feedback on the CoC are deadlinks?
[00:34] <bkerensa> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news-team/2012-September/001659.html
[00:34] <darthrobot`> Title: [Text for the fridge]
[00:48] <nhaines> Neither of those are dead links?
[00:56] <bkerensa> nhaines: what do you mean? if you click them they go no where
[01:14] <nhaines> That's because the email doesn't contain hyperlinks.  They're addresses you have to copy and paste.
[01:44] <bkerensa> nhaines: uhh idk so they are hyperlinks for me and im not the only one who has them as broken
[01:44] <bkerensa> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2012/04/16/code-of-conduct-update/_
[01:44] <darthrobot`> [404] Title: [Not Found]
[01:44] <bkerensa> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sabdfl/ubuntu-codeofconduct/v2-draft/view/head:/CodeOfConduct.txt.
[01:45] <darthrobot`> [404] Content type: [text/plain; charset=utf8]
[01:51] <nhaines> bkerensa: yeah, those aren't the links in the email.
[01:51] <nhaines> (Which as I mentioned, contains no hyperlinks.)
[01:52] <bkerensa> nhaines: what are the links then? I am confused
[01:53] <bkerensa> those are the only links I see in the e-mail
[01:53] <nhaines> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2012/04/16/code-of-conduct-update/
[01:53] <darthrobot`> Title: [Code of Conduct Update]
[01:53] <nhaines> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sabdfl/ubuntu-codeofconduct/v2-draft/view/head:/CodeOfConduct.txt
[01:53] <darthrobot`> Title: [~sabdfl/ubuntu-codeofconduct/v2-draft : contents of CodeOfConduct.txt at revision 27]
[01:53] <bkerensa> and both Firefox and Chromium show them as hyperlinks
[01:53] <bkerensa> well
[01:53] <bkerensa> in the e-mail they have _ and .
[01:53] <bkerensa> paultag> [10:02:10] czajkowski: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news-team/2012-September/001659.html ← links are both dead
[01:53] <darthrobot`> Title: [Text for the fridge]
[01:54] <nhaines> No, in the email they are part of a sentence, ending in _) and in .
[01:54] <nhaines> Mailman tried to make valid hyperlinks from the plaintext and failed.
[01:57] <nhaines> (And "_)" is obviously a typographical error for ")")
[02:19] <pleia2> bkerensa: it was text for a fridge post (the fridge post has the correct links, and better formatting)
[02:19] <pleia2> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2012/09/27/code-of-conduct-v2-request-for-feedback/
[02:19] <darthrobot`> Title: [Code of Conduct v2: Request for Feedback]
[02:25] <nhaines> pleia2: is there a link to the wiki page discussing collected changes?
[02:26] <pleia2> nhaines: no, it doesn't exist yet (it'll be done in time for our meeting on Thursday)
[02:28] <pleia2> people are sending emails to czajkowski and she'll put it together (some of the feedback is often anonymous, else we'd just have people edit the wiki themselves)
[02:29] <pleia2> also, I like wikis, but I seem to be the only one ;)
[02:29] <nhaines> Wikis have their moments. ;)
[05:24] <bkerensa> pleia2: you have a Nexus 7 right?
[06:05] <pleia2> bkerensa: no (I don't have a tablet at all)
[06:05] <bkerensa> oh
[06:05] <bkerensa> I just ordered Nexus 7 16GB from Walmart
[06:05] <bkerensa> apparently they are the only people selling it in the City
[06:05] <bkerensa> :s
[06:06] <pleia2> weird
[06:06] <bkerensa> and Amazon was trying to upsell by $50
[06:06] <bkerensa> lol
[06:06] <bkerensa> likely because they are competing with Google
[06:06] <bkerensa> pleia2: do you know any women open source groups/projects that take donations?
[06:07] <pleia2> can't you just buy one from google directly?
[06:07] <pleia2> http://adainitiative.org/
[06:07] <darthrobot`> Title: [The Ada Initiative | Supporting women in open technology and culture]
[06:07] <pleia2> they're the ones who came up with the template for the anti-harrassment policy that so many conferences use now
[06:08] <pleia2> among other things
[06:08] <bkerensa> pleia2: I could but I wanted one by tomorrow morning :) and Google says 3-5 days with no option for overnight
[06:08] <pleia2> ah
[06:08] <bkerensa> pleia2: ahh cool I am working on a like top 10 open source projects you should donate cash to kind of blog post
[06:09] <pleia2> cool, include ada initiative for sure :) I include a donate link on my blog
[06:09] <pleia2> (first time I ever have)
[06:09] <bkerensa> Im also trying to drum up cash for Ubuntu, Mozilla and OSU OSL especially
[06:09] <bkerensa> :D
[06:11] <pleia2> Debian is a good one too
[06:12] <pleia2> http://www.debian.org/donations
[06:12] <darthrobot`> Title: [Debian -- Donations to Software in the Public Interest]
[06:12] <pleia2> (they also can process donations of hardware and such)
[06:18] <bkerensa> yeah I got them
[06:18] <bkerensa> and FSF
[06:18] <pleia2> EFF? :)
[06:18] <bkerensa> nope
[06:18] <bkerensa> not open source
[06:18] <bkerensa> not strictly
[06:19] <pleia2> ah
[06:19] <bkerensa> my list http://paste.ubuntu.com/1231757/
[06:19] <darthrobot`> Title: [Ubuntu Pastebin]
[06:19] <bkerensa> adding ada to it
[06:19] <bkerensa> will likely drop FSF for Ada
[06:20] <bkerensa> I did not include Linux Foundation because I feel of all projects and foundations Linux Foundation likely is best set to get donations on its own
[06:23] <pleia2> FSF has questionable campaigns :\
[06:23] <pleia2> I appreciate that they exist, just... meh
[06:23] <bkerensa> pleia2: I totally agree
[06:24] <bkerensa> and their uhh patron saint is a bit idk :) special in his own way
[06:24] <pleia2> hehe
[06:24] <bkerensa> People think its bad with Mark... they have no idea what Ubuntu would be like under Stallman
[06:24] <bkerensa> :)
[06:24] <pleia2> unusable for real
[06:24] <bkerensa> heh
[06:26] <bkerensa> pleia2: you must be excited... just weeks till Africa
[06:27] <bkerensa> :D
[06:27] <pleia2> yeah, under 2 weeks now :)
[06:27] <pleia2> and met my chipin goal today, so I have my expenses pretty much covered (well, not my unpaid time off, but direct out of pocket things)
[06:28] <bkerensa> cool
[06:28] <bkerensa> I have been considering going down to South America to meet with LoCo's
[06:28] <bkerensa> maybe Brazil
[06:28] <bkerensa> I have a friend from college who lives there
[06:28] <pleia2> they speak the wrong language there
[06:28] <pleia2> :)
[06:29] <bkerensa> Hmm?
[06:29] <bkerensa> Portuguese
[06:29] <pleia2> yeah, not spanish
[06:29] <bkerensa> lol
[06:29] <bkerensa> well yeah :)
[06:29] <pleia2> complicates the SA trip by throwing in another language
[06:29] <bkerensa> well so my cousin was just down there she said most people speak decent amount of english
[06:29] <pleia2> I'd like to visit Peru sometime, told Jose and his dad that they can hook me up
[06:29] <bkerensa> :D
[06:30] <bkerensa> They have one of the most remote places on earth in Peru
[06:30] <pleia2> there are many awesome things in Peru
[06:30] <bkerensa> La Rinconada, Peru
[06:31] <bkerensa> the highest city in the world
[06:31] <bkerensa> 17,000 ft above sea level
[06:31] <pleia2> I want to go to machu picchu :)
[06:31] <bkerensa> Apparently La Rinconada takes days to reach via jeep on dangerous mountain roads and you get altitude sickness the whole way
[06:32] <bkerensa> sounds like a bucket of win
[06:32] <bkerensa> :D
[06:32] <pleia2> haha
[06:32] <pleia2> I might skip that
[06:32] <bkerensa> so it has 30k people
[06:32] <bkerensa> but mostly poor people who move there to work in the mines for free
[06:32] <bkerensa> they make a deal to work for some gold now and then
[06:32] <pleia2> it turns out that I'm quite happy to do the tourist thing in most places, life is short
[06:32] <bkerensa> :D
[06:33] <pleia2> not quite sure what I'll do with my extra day in copenhagen, technically I'm staying an extra day to hang out with the xubuntu people, but I think I'll drag them all around touristing
[06:33] <bkerensa> indeed life is short
[06:33] <bkerensa> pleia2: we should do a community marathon for charity
[06:33] <bkerensa> :)
[06:33] <bkerensa> could raise money for ADA
[06:33] <bkerensa> and mozilla
[06:33] <bkerensa> and debian
[06:34] <bkerensa> :P
[06:34] <pleia2> how? we already work 24 hours a day!
[06:34] <pleia2> ;)
[06:34] <bkerensa> pretty much.... im sure since I dont have dreams when I do have downtime my mind is computing the next days tasks
[06:34] <bkerensa> ;p
[06:35] <pleia2> haha
[06:35] <bkerensa> so randall ross lives north of me... for some reason I thought he lived in Toronto
[06:35] <bkerensa> :s
[06:35] <bkerensa> I might have to go visit his loco
[06:35] <pleia2> yeah, vancouver
[06:35] <bkerensa> Its only like 4 hours to vancouver from here
[06:35] <bkerensa> my neighbor is canadian :D and from vancouver
[06:36] <pleia2> I was in their airport once
[06:36] <bkerensa> nice
[06:36] <bkerensa> Randall Ross is not on irc much
[06:36] <pleia2> they have US customs there, it was annoying :)
[06:37] <bkerensa> at the airport?
[06:37] <bkerensa> Weird
[06:37] <pleia2> no, he's not really an IRC person (he tried for a while)
[06:37] <pleia2> yeah
[06:37] <bkerensa> I went to mexico once
[06:37] <bkerensa> and walked in and out
[06:37] <bkerensa> not asked one thing
[06:37] <pleia2> they do the same in Ireland, I didn't expect it though
[06:37] <bkerensa> no id required nothing
[06:37] <pleia2> heh
[06:37] <bkerensa> I went and shopped and had a backpack but nothing
[06:38] <pleia2> you have a promising career prospect as a drug mule
[06:38] <bkerensa> LOL
[06:38] <bkerensa> blanket mule
[06:38] <bkerensa> :D
[06:38] <bkerensa> I bought four hand made mexican blanks for like $5
[06:38] <bkerensa> and turtles made out of walnut shells :D
[06:39] <pleia2> hehe
[06:40] <bkerensa> pleia2: if Ubuntu Cali needs a cloud instance or anything let me know
[06:40] <bkerensa> Softlayer gave us a $250/mo credit
[06:40] <pleia2> thanks, we're using a linode that was donated at the moment
[06:42] <bkerensa> I setup people.ubuntu-oregon.org last night
[06:42] <bkerensa> :D
[06:42] <bkerensa> ZNC, Webspace for Presentations and Shell for Juju Demos etc
[18:19] <philballew> Happy Friday everyone
[18:26] <pleia2> hey philballew
[18:26] <philballew> howdy pleia2 how's everything up north?
[18:27] <pleia2> foggy
[18:28] <pleia2> how're things down there?
[18:30] <philballew> 75 degrees with sun. Ive never really liked beach weather. But attempting to pass school this year.
[18:31] <philballew> So I quit my job yesterday. Always a good feeling... till I need money.
[18:31] <pleia2> good for you :)
[18:32] <philballew> I was doing linux work till three weeks ago till they switched me to the "Windows desktop deployment team"
[18:33] <philballew> I did not feel right with doing that...
[18:33] <pleia2> ew
[18:35] <akk> Good for you. What a drag!
[18:37] <philballew> yeah, I did learn about windows 7 though. Its better then xp with how it runs.
[18:37] <philballew> but that is not saying windows 7 is good, just that its better then xp.
[18:39] <akk> Seems weird that they'd switch a linux person to windows deployment if they have linux work available.
[18:39] <philballew> true, they must have had a more pressing need for windows desktops here. Its a new school year so teachers need them.
[18:40] <philballew> The problem with windows is you cant script as many tasks so i was having to do "post install jobs" of just clicking and un checking boxes.
[18:40] <akk> yuck!
[18:41] <philballew> Windows has taken so much stuff away with limiting the command line that you can not do as much as youd like, even with power shell, i still does not give you any access to the backend of gui programs.
[18:42] <philballew> *i
[18:42] <philballew> *it
[18:42]  * philballew had a crumb stuck under the "t" key
[18:48] <philballew> so pleia2 if you could maybe in the next couple weeks just shoot me an email of everything I can do for the loco when your gone vagabonding and stuff I can do them all to the best of my ability.
[18:48] <pleia2> philballew: running the leadership election is the big one
[19:09] <bkerensa> pretty cool article I found on the webz
[19:09] <bkerensa> http://www.readwriteweb.com/hack/2012/09/meet-the-ubuntu-women.php
[19:09] <darthrobot`> Title: [Meet The Ubuntu Women - They're More Involved Than You Think]
[19:09] <pleia2> yeah, I am famous now
[19:10] <bkerensa> psh you were famous before we all know it
[19:10] <bkerensa> ;)
[19:39] <bkerensa> pleia2: http://i.imgur.com/HdNi0.jpg
[19:39] <darthrobot`> Content type: [image/jpeg] Size: [773821]
[19:39] <bkerensa> :D
[19:40] <pleia2> shirts?
[19:41] <bkerensa> yep
[19:41] <bkerensa> 40
[19:41] <bkerensa> :D
[19:41] <pleia2> ah yes, I saw on your social media x100 ;)
[19:41] <bkerensa> well technically 43 :D
[19:41] <bkerensa> one perk of being team lead is I get 3 :P
[21:45] <bkerensa> pleia2: if you ever are in this area http://www.olivepit.com/
[21:46] <darthrobot`> Title: [Home Page]
[21:46] <bkerensa> amazing olives
[21:46] <pleia2> I don't like olives :)
[21:46] <bkerensa> oh
[21:46] <bkerensa> well they have other things too
[21:46] <bkerensa> :)
[21:46] <pleia2> (I tried, my ex-husband is italian, it drove him batty)
[21:51] <bkerensa> pleia2: you have mosquito net?
[21:52] <pleia2> the ghanaians we talked to laughed about the mosquito nets and told us they were good for catching fish
[21:52] <pleia2> so we figure we'll buy them there if we actually need them
[21:53] <bkerensa> pleia2: will you have connectivity?
[21:53] <pleia2> we're still working out lodging details, should have at least some
[21:54] <bkerensa> pleia2: huh if I was in California I would loan you my goalzero
[21:55] <pleia2> I bought a purification+filter water bottle
[21:55] <bkerensa> ahh I have one of those too
[21:55] <bkerensa> well I have a tube
[21:55] <bkerensa> and http://www.goalzero.com/shop/p/79/Guide-10-Plus-Adventure-Kit/1:4/
[21:55] <darthrobot`> Title: [Guide 10 Adventure Kit - Goal Zero | Portable Solar Power]
[21:55] <bkerensa> I have a special prototype new version of that ^
[21:56] <pleia2> ah
[21:56] <pleia2> I've used solar powered chargers before, they all are awful and useless :)
[21:57] <bkerensa> pleia2: oh wow Google has added phones to Google Maps
[21:57] <bkerensa> >.<
[21:57] <bkerensa> you can see where cell phones are
[21:58] <bkerensa> https://maps.google.com/maps?q=at%26t+store+near+central+park&ie=UTF-8&ei=GBxmUPvkCcXCswa6uYCoCg&ved=0CAsQ_AUoAg
[21:58] <darthrobot`> Title: [at&t store near central park - Google Maps]
[21:58] <bkerensa> >.<
[21:58] <bkerensa> the small red dots
[21:58] <pleia2> hehe, neat
[21:58] <pleia2> hm, I don't see
[21:59] <pleia2> all I see are AT&T stores
[21:59] <bkerensa> https://plus.google.com/112648813199640203443/posts/csfxPbY3Ba6
[21:59] <darthrobot`> Title: [Jan Wildeboer - Google+ - Dear Google - are all these red dots really what I suspect?…]
[21:59] <bkerensa> idk
[21:59] <bkerensa> red hat guy found it
[21:59] <bkerensa> I set thousands of very small red dots
[22:00] <pleia2> all I see are stores and authorized resellers
[22:01] <pleia2> no thousands of small red dots from here
[22:01] <pleia2> the small dots I do see can be zoomed in and they pop up with the store details
[22:02] <pleia2> what does "more info" show for you?