[04:07] <soundray> LasseL, if you installed manually, you must remove manually, too.
[04:08] <hawking> doub: when I try to install the perl modules I need using apt-get it says Package libxml-sax-perl is not configured yet.
[04:08] <Seveas> hawking, dpkg --configure --pending
[04:08] <borup> doub: CPANPLUS::Dist works better these days
[04:08] <soundray> LasseL, regarding file diversion errors, have a look at man dpkg-divert
[04:09] <hawking> Seveas: that gives this error "Can't locate object method "save_parsers_debian" via package "XML::SAX" at /usr/bin/update-perl-sax-parsers line 90.
[04:09] <hawking> "
[04:09] <borup> doub: than dh-make-perl that - I case I didn't make any sense
[04:09] <LasseL> soundray: I think the trouble is that what I manually intalled overwrote the xorg-driver-fglrx package
[04:09] <Seveas> hawking, yay for broken packages :|
[04:10] <hawking> Sevaas : :/
[04:10] <borup> hawking: I just did the install myself - but without problems
[04:10] <hawking> borup : hmm maybe you have something in ur comp that I don't
[04:11] <borup> hawking: are you on breazy
[04:11] <hawking> borup : yes
[04:11] <soundray> LasseL, have you tried 'apt-get --reinstall install xorg-driver-fglrx' ?
[04:11] <testme> pardon me - was there an update released today with linux.386 patches?  I got the "updates are ready" message, but before installing it said they were not authenticated!
[04:12] <borup> hawking: odd - I don't remember dooing anything special
[04:12] <MarcN> anyone using dapper?  An upgrade a hour or so ago failed with a firefox problem.
[04:12] <LasseL> soundray: I want to get rid of everything fglrx, I upgraded to a nvidia card
[04:12] <doub> borup, yeah, got it. but will it create a package? the advantage of dh-make-perl being that it tries to (not really successfully, but that's a start) create a cpan module <-> package identity
[04:13] <doub> borup, with the added benefit of being able to add/remove with a unique apt-get command
[04:13] <soundray> LasseL, reinstalling may fix it so you can cleanly uninstall afterwards.
[04:13] <LasseL> soundray: I can see that dpkg-divert has a number of diverted files listed on the fglrx package, could you hint me how to remove the diversions?
[04:13] <borup> doub: yes it can create a .dab
[04:13] <hawking> I did it!!!
[04:13] <borup> doub: s/dab/deb/
[04:13] <doub> borup, sounds great, i'll take a look. thanks for the tip
[04:13] <calav3ra> hoi
[04:14] <calav3ra> can someone help me with mounting my external firewire hdd ??? thx in advance
[04:14] <nich0las> know how !
[04:14] <soundray> LasseL, dpkg-divert [options]  --remove <file> ?
[04:15] <LasseL> soundray: aye, I am just lazy, there is 20 files
[04:15] <nich0las> what is the easiest why to install debian package in ubuntu?
[04:15] <borup> doub: kane (cpan+ author) has even set up a apt source autogenerated from cpan (but only for sid)
[04:16] <NoOrdinary|tK> I have weird problem with ubuntu liveCD, I'm using USB mouse that aint working and it also crash when I'm suppose to choose language
[04:16] <NoOrdinary|tK> any solution to that?
[04:16] <testme> Excuse me - does anybody know, was there an update released today with linux.386 patches?  I got the "updates are ready" message, but before installing it said they were not authenticated! (Surely someone else on here uses the generic 386 kernel?!?!?)
[04:16] <soundray> LasseL, do it with a bash script: for i in $( <list> ) ; do dpkg-divert --remove $i ; done
[04:16] <calav3ra> can someone help me with mounting my external firewire hdd ??? thx in advance
[04:16] <soundray> LasseL, <list> is whatever you did to list the 20 files.
[04:16] <doub> borup, yeah, making it ubuntu friendly should not be that hard then
[04:17] <soundray> LasseL, disclaimer: if that screws up your system, you cannot sue me :)
[04:17] <simonvallore> anyone interested in a game of battle ship ?
[04:17] <borup> doub: nah it just needs an autobuilder
[04:17] <[Jonne] > ok, E6
[04:20] <testme> [Tap, Tap, Tap... "Is this thing on?"]  Excuse me - does anybody know, was there an update released today with linux.386 patches?  I got the "updates are ready" message, but before installing it said they were not authenticated! (Surely someone else on here uses the generic 386 kernel?!?!?)
[04:20] <lucasvo> hi
[04:20] <testme> 'lo
[04:21] <lucasvo> any information about miubunut? are there any developers working on it? or is it still just a draft?
[04:21] <Sodki> hello, the Ubuntu CD doesn't recognize my CDROM. is there a way to install Ubuntu on it's own partition via Qemu?
[04:22] <ompaul> testme, there was a relase of info about kernel updates
[04:22] <testme> ompaul - where do you find that info? the wiki?
[04:22] <ompaul> on the ubuntu-sec wiki
[04:22] <ompaul> on the ubuntu-sec mailing list
[04:22] <LasseL> soundray: I manually removed all but one diversion, which it refuses to remove
[04:22] <ompaul> forget wiki that that was a bad idea to suggest that I auto typed:)
[04:23] <testme> ompaul - great thanks... I didn't want to install kernel updates that were unauthenticated without some correlation that they were for real :)
[04:24] <ompaul> testme,  http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-security-announce
[04:24] <drcode> hi all
[04:24] <databe> I have ubuntu installed on my laptop and I want to dual boot with xp. all of the tutorials i have read assume you have xp installed and want to install linux. anyone have a pointers?
[04:24] <drcode> I try to install gcc
[04:24] <drcode> and I get this
[04:24] <drcode> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:24] <drcode>   gcc: Depends: cpp (>= 4:4.0.1-3) but 4:3.3.5-1 is to be installed
[04:24] <drcode>        Depends: gcc-4.0 (>= 4.0.1-2) but it is not going to be installed
[04:24] <drcode> any idea?
[04:24] <ompaul> testme, everybody should be on that one it is such low volume it is mad not to be :-)
[04:24] <soundray> LasseL, can you reinstall or remove the package now?
[04:24] <gigcs> how i can say  ubuntu-devel .
[04:24] <testme> ompaul -= great thanks again!
[04:25] <doub> Sodki, you can also give sbm a try. it's a floppy image of a boot device selector, replacing you falty bios's CD boot loader
[04:25] <doub> Sodki, it's on the /install directory, on the ubuntu install cd
[04:25] <LasseL> soundray: no, it still complains that it can't remove the xorg-driver-fglrx driver b/c of the diversion it can't remove
[04:25] <databe> can i resize a partition in ubuntu and then install xp onto that partition?
[04:25] <databe> or must it be the other way around?!?
[04:26] <soundray> LasseL, does it say why it cannot remove the diversion?
[04:27] <LasseL> soundray: because it would require it to overwrite a file
[04:27] <Sodki> doub, Ubuntu boots fine and i can select language, location and keyboard. the problem is that afterwords it complains about missing drivers for the cd-rom
[04:27] <soundray> LasseL, and can you rm that file?
[04:27] <theCore> why my wifi cards doesn't work with WEP but work well without encryption? I try many things but nothing seem to work, any ideas how to fix this would be appreciated.
[04:28] <drcode>        Depends: gcc-4.0 (>= 4.0.1-2) but it is not going to be installed
[04:28] <drcode> any idea?
[04:28] <theCore> any
[04:28] <doub> Sodki, if the installer drivers can't find your cdrom drive, chances are the regular installed ubuntu won't either, as it has the same drivers
[04:29] <doub> Sodki, so installing via qemu won't solve the problem
[04:29] <gigcs> how i can say ubuntu develop
[04:29] <soundray> doub, unless he bypasses the CD-ROM that way.
[04:29] <drcode> I use breezy
[04:29] <drcode> any help
[04:30] <LasseL> soundray: renaming the file, removing the diversion, copied it back, installed the package, thanks a bunch for the help
[04:30] <doub> soundray, of course
[04:30] <BlueEagle> http://bash.org/?577451 <= That's a good one tbh </offtopic>
[04:30] <trappist> where would I put a command that I want to run at boot time?
[04:30] <soundray> LasseL, glad it worked.
[04:31] <ompaul> BlueEagle, we do have a #ubuntu-offtopic for just such ot subjects :-)
[04:31] <doub> Sodki, you can try qemu with -hda <your hard disk>, it'll work, but beware not to touch your running system's partitions then. and be also shure that qemu's hda is also your real hda
[04:31] <theCore> drcode: It since I upgraded to breezy that dosen't work
[04:32] <doub> Sodki, or you'll have to change all references to hda in the installed system afterwards, which can be tricky
[04:32] <BlueEagle> ompaul: As you may or may not have noticed I am too lazy to join a channel just for such puropuses. :)
[04:32] <databe> can i resize a partition in ubuntu and then install xp onto that partition?
[04:32] <databe> or must it be the other way around?!?
[04:33] <soundray> trappist, perhaps add a stanza to /etc/init.d/boomisc.sh ?
[04:33] <soundray> */etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[04:33] <trappist> soundray: just discovered that file, thanks
[04:33] <soundray> databe, I'd suggest the first way round.
[04:33] <trappist> now.  where to put stuff to run when X starts?
[04:34] <ompaul> databe, you can do it either way but if you insist on running that other thing then you should install it first
[04:34] <trappist> I'm used to using my .xinitrc but I don't think *dm respects that
[04:34] <drcode> so waht I can do ?
[04:34] <soundray> trappist, on X start or on login?
[04:34] <philosophia> hi
[04:34] <drcode> I can;t compile any more in breezye
[04:35] <trappist> soundray: X start.  I want to turn numlock on, do some keymapping, etc.
[04:35] <soundray> drcode, have you tried apt-get -f install ?
[04:36] <trappist> currently I have scripts in /etc/X11/Xsession.d but they don't seem to get run
[04:36] <ompaul> BlueEagle, last point this is a support channel and that thing has two new votes :)
[04:37] <trappist> soundray: I assume they would also work if I did it on login, if that makes the question easier to answer :)
[04:37] <BlueEagle> ompaul: But now that I've got your attention. How do I set up logcheck to drop an ip into hosts.deny when it detects an attempt to log into ssh as root?
[04:38] <trappist> BlueEagle: check out authfail on freshmeat
[04:38] <__filip_> does somebody know when/or if shockwave will be supportet in linux?
[04:38] <BlueEagle> thanks trappist. Will have a look-see.
[04:38] <trappist> __filip_: there have been rumors.  I wouldn't hold my breath.
[04:38] <ompaul> BlueEagle,  there ya go
[04:38] <soundray> trappist, have you looked at gdm documentation?
[04:39] <trappist> soundray: I'm using kdm... that does sound like a good place to start.
[04:39] <soundray> trappist, also, I turn numlock on in the BIOS...
[04:39] <__filip_> what is rumors? not so good at english:(
[04:39] <trappist> soundray: so do I, but kde turns it off.  I suppose I could fix that one kde-style.
[04:39] <wermut> I have troubles with setting a lower screen resolution, although my xorg.conf allows that. Can somebody help me?
[04:39] <orian> where is sources.list file for apt ?
[04:39] <trappist> __filip_: rumors are stories you hear that you shouldn't believe
[04:39] <polpak> Anyone have any experience booting a live cd from a PATA drive? It seems to be locking when it tries to load the ISO filesystem module
[04:39] <trappist> orian: /etc/apt
[04:40] <__filip_> trappist: okey, and thanx for your answers.
[04:41] <trappist> polpak: I don't know the solution, but I've heard that complaint here often enough to suspect it's a bug.  either that or a bad burn.
[04:41] <hawking> I am trying to install xboard and when I do ./configure it says "xboard requires the X Window System header files and libraries!
[04:41] <hawking> " what packages do i need?
[04:41] <kresten> Hi! How do I install a .deb package?
[04:41] <wermut> kresten: sudo dpkg -i package
[04:41] <kresten> wermut, tnx.
[04:43] <wermut> hawking: why don't you use the packages?
[04:43] <blizzkid> lo all. Yesterday I did a mknod rfcomm, followed by an rfcomm bind. After rebooting, the device is gone. How can I make this permanent?
[04:46] <blizzkid> any1 ???
[04:48] <BlueEagle> thx trappist
[04:49] <ClayG> Hey Atrophic you awake?
[04:51] <ClayG> anyone here use the automatix script on ub forums?
[04:54] <aPpYe> hello, I am wondering if there is a text file on my ubuntu system that shows all installed packages?
[04:55] <enodev> next_window
[04:55] <_jason> aPpYe, dpkg -l
[04:56] <Wizz> All speak in english?
[04:56] <ompaul> we do speak English in this channel
[04:57] <trappist> !ru
[04:57] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[04:57] <lucaas> !se
[04:57] <ubotu> lucaas: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:57] <lucaas> :>
[04:58] <Wizz> Kak ne podskajew???
[04:58] <selinium> hi ompaul :)
[04:58] <ompaul> selinium, hiya
[04:58] <ompaul> Wizz,  /join #ubuntu-ru  <<-??
[04:58] <tesoro> !swe
[04:58] <ubotu> tesoro: No idea
[04:58] <tesoro> doh :p
[04:59] <Wizz> Ti russkii?
[04:59] <trappist> Wizz: /join #ubuntu-ru
[05:00] <aPpYe> _jason, that seemed to produce a pretty huge list.  That is a list only of what is installed?
[05:00] <marlun> Someone who knows whats wrong when streamripper outputs [ripping.....]  [ripping....]  and just keep doing it?
[05:00] <Wizz> You russian?
[05:00] <_jason> aPpYe, I believe so
[05:01] <tiefox> im having an problem with ubuntu
[05:01] <ompaul> Wizz,  neit nada
[05:01] <tiefox> sometimes it does not boot in my laptop
[05:01] <tiefox> and other times it boots fine
[05:01] <_jason> aPpYe, you can redirect the outoput to a text file so you can look it over: dpkg -l > mypackages.txt
[05:01] <hawking> How can i get the X Window System header files and libraries?
[05:01] <soundray> aPbYe, every line that starts with ii refers to an installed package.
[05:01] <tiefox> when it does not boot, its locking up right at the "Loading Modules..." message
[05:02] <soundray> tiefox, do you have any USB devices connected?
[05:02] <tiefox> only an usb mouse
[05:04] <soundray> tiefox, change VERBOSE to yes /etc/default/rcS, this way you may get more output when it fails.
[05:04] <unique311> morning all
[05:05] <seb__> i upgraded my hoary system to breezy, and now i suffer my wlan denying service
[05:05] <mdke> does anyone know a way to upgrade their system automatically, for example via a cronjob?
[05:05] <tiefox> ok thx..i will try that
[05:05] <unique311> i broke my ubuntu when i uninstalled kubuntu-desktop.
[05:05] <tiefox> but it locks up right with the first message
[05:05] <tiefox> sometimes, even the splash screens does not get loaded..
[05:05] <tiefox> it locks up righte after uncompressing the kernel
[05:05] <unique311> now when i boot up it hangs at *Starting system message bus...
[05:05] <gigcs> the  package ubuntu-keyring .what does it mean.
[05:05] <ew3> hello
[05:05] <ew3> how do I add a static IP to my server?
[05:06] <mdke> gigcs, it contains the gpg keys for the ubuntu servers
[05:06] <soundray> tiefox, do you have a graphical boot screen?
[05:06] <mdke> ew3, you have to ask your internet service provider if you want a static ip address
[05:06] <unique311> i think kubuntu took some valuables with it when i uninstalled it. can anybody help me with this.
[05:06] <mdke> unique311, install ubuntu-desktop i guess
[05:06] <tiefox> yes..
[05:06] <unique311> tried it.
[05:06] <orbx> Can someone provide me with a list of files that need to be installed, to run mysql with phpmyadmin on ubuntu?
[05:06] <unique311> nothing
[05:06] <tiefox> soundray: yes
[05:07] <blizzkid> orbx: try lampp
[05:07] <mdke> unique311, i suppose your problem is something else then
[05:07] <seb__> why can i boot 2 kernels with grub after ubuntu upgrade
[05:07] <tiefox> im pretty experienced linux user...i have ubuntu in other 3 pcs...
[05:07] <mdke> seb__, it leaves the previous kernel in place
[05:07] <seb__> why this?
[05:07] <tiefox> but installed in this brand new laptop..and is the first time i saw something like it
[05:07] <_simon__> hi all
[05:08] <orbx> blizzkid > i have apache 2 and php working, but for mysql i don't think i have all the files installed
[05:08] <mdke> seb__, so that if the new one doesn't work, you can boot your system
[05:08] <soundray> tiefox, it may be worth switching to text-based booting, because you get more feedback still.
[05:08] <seb__> mdke, lol seems to be a very good idea
[05:08] <ew3> how do I know if my nic card has been detected?
[05:08] <tiefox> how can i do that ?
[05:08] <pavelich> hey anyone know of a good linux book, one that is more command based rather than showing how to work a distro
[05:08] <_simon__> i trief to get my laptop connected via wlan and WPA, i did everything like it is in the how to but it isn't working, can someone help me?
[05:08] <mdke> does anyone know a way to upgrade their system automatically, for example via a cronjob?
[05:08] <blizzkid> pavelich: the linux administration guide
[05:09] <databe> man. i just spent forever getting ubuntu installed and how i like it. now i have to format and install windows first. bah
[05:09] <gfish> hello
[05:09] <mdke> databe, why?
[05:09] <databe> if only my wireless card worked
[05:09] <soundray> tiefox, remove all vga=0xXXX occurrences from /boot/grub/menu.lst, run update-grub and reboot.
[05:09] <databe> someone said it is the better way to do it
[05:09] <databe> i have ubuntu installed
[05:09] <ew3> how do I know if my nic card has been detected?
[05:09] <mdke> databe, you can install windows afterwards. there is a good guide in fact
[05:09] <databe> and my wireless card dont work. so i was going to dual boot with xp
[05:10] <databe> GREAT
[05:10] <tiefox> ok soundray...thx
[05:10] <gfish> i cant get my printer to work
[05:10] <pavelich> blizzkid: is this like a standard book, or what is the author/publisher
[05:10] <databe> please show me where
[05:10] <mdke> databe, certainly
[05:10] <blizzkid> pavelich: give me 10 minutes, I'll /msg you
[05:10] <mdke> databe, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:10] <databe> dunka
[05:10] <mdke> databe, you need a live cd
[05:11] <databe> hrm. isnt ubuntu a live cd also?
[05:11] <aPpYe> _jason, got that ... any way to filter out packages that are not simply there to satisfy a dependency?  It lists stuff  like "xserver-xorg-driver-i810" and "python2.4-adns" along with "xserver.org" and "python2.4" respectively.
[05:11] <databe> i have knoppix tho
[05:11] <databe> so either way
[05:11] <mdke> databe, ubuntu has a separate live cd
[05:11] <databe> i c
[05:11] <databe> i can dl it np
[05:11] <databe> thanks. you saved me alot of grief.
[05:12] <aPpYe> oops, I did not mean to direct that solely at _jason
[05:12] <mdke> databe, in theory, installing windows first is a better way. but if you are happy to use that guide, then it is fine to install Windows afterwards
[05:12] <alnr_> I would like to serve time to some other local machines, i did /etc/init.d/ntp-server, but I got 'no suitable server' when I point another machine to it. what else do i have to do
[05:12] <databe> yeah.. i would much rather do it like this
[05:13] <ompaul> !guide
[05:13] <ubotu> guide is probably at http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~infobot/infobot_guide.html
[05:13] <soundray> mdke, remember he wants to resize the partition for windows as well.
[05:13] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[05:13] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[05:13] <gigcs> mdke:i can remove package ubuntu-keyring .
[05:13] <mdke> gigcs, is that a question
[05:14] <mdke> databe, if you need to resize the partition, as soundray says, you should do that before starting the windows installation
[05:14] <theCore> I try to fix my wifi by recompling the madwifi module from source, but the only thing get now is my text console. :'( When I get the GNOME login, I hear a *bep* from the sys speaker, then I try to login with my username and pwd but after that a just get a brown background. GNOME just stale. (but, I can move my mouse) Anyidea where that bug come from ??
[05:14] <gfish> how do i play dvds
[05:14] <databe> yeah.
[05:14] <mdke> ompaul, that is an unnecessarily negative message about ubuntuguide. who writes those things?
[05:14] <databe> i am going to resize first then install
[05:14] <marlun> whats the package called which lets you move applications to any of the other "desktops"?
[05:14] <databe> mdke, are you sure thats the right guide?
[05:15] <marlun> ah, nm
[05:15] <gigcs> mdke:what ubuntu-keyring have importance. if i remove it.
[05:15] <databe> ic. it is to reinstall windows. but it still applies
[05:15] <databe> ok thanks.;
[05:15] <mdke> databe, it is a guide to what to do _after_ you install windows
[05:15] <databe> oh.
[05:15] <databe> ok.
[05:15] <mdke> gigcs, yes it is important.
[05:15] <databe> so then before i get to that.
[05:15] <databe> i just resize my partition
[05:15] <mdke> gigcs, you need it to download updates and such
[05:15] <databe> then install windows to that partition
[05:15] <databe> then follow those steps
[05:16] <mdke> databe, yes. you'll need a live cd to resize your partition too.
[05:16] <databe> k.
[05:16] <databe> got it
[05:16] <databe> thanks
[05:16] <ompaul> mdke, no idea who wrote that one - I know mine are a tad more positive - however we rather that people use docs/faq.ubuntu.com
[05:16] <mdke> ompaul, messages like that just lead to more agro between communities
[05:16] <mdke> databe, good luck. Backup everything you need first
[05:17] <mdke> ompaul, any way to change it?
[05:17] <theCore> no ideas, why GNOME bug at startup ? So, I will need to fix myself or reinstall everything ....
[05:17] <gfish> how do i install dvds
[05:17] <ompaul> mdke, goto #ubuntu-offtopic for that conversation
[05:17] <gfish> *i mean play
[05:17] <soundray> aPbYe, most packages in Ubuntu satisfy a dependency. It doesn't make much sense to create a list of those that don't.
[05:17] <mdke> does anyone know a way to upgrade their system automatically, for example via a cronjob?
[05:18] <soundray> aPpYe, what do you need that list for?
[05:18] <mdke> gfish, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:19] <mdke> !forget ubuntuguide
[05:19] <ubotu> mdke: i forgot ubuntuguide
[05:19] <sdakota> apt-get dist-upgrade gives me that there are no changes.... how do I check if Breezy is already installed?
[05:19] <aPpYe> soundray, heh ... the idea is to duplicate or at least have a system that closely resembles ubuntu that is built from source using either gentoo or sourcemage.
[05:20] <basti> Hi
[05:20] <unique311> i think i definitely broke ubuntu, it just do a restart when i try to boot after it gets to starting system message bus...
[05:20] <basti> how to add folders on harddisk as paket source?
[05:20] <soundray> aPpYe, that makes sense now.
[05:20] <sdakota> !dist-upgrade
[05:20] <ubotu> sdakota: Are you smoking crack?
[05:21] <unique311> in recovery mode i get 2 double fualt messages after the starting system message bus and a couple of other messages
[05:21] <sdakota> darn, he doesn't know
[05:21] <basti> ?
[05:21] <mdke> !ubuntuguide ubuntuguide is an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[05:21] <ubotu> mdke: okay
[05:21] <soundray> mdke, well done!
[05:21] <rob_p> mdke:  Write a little script that runs the appropriate apt-get command(s) and stick it in /etc/cron.daily for daily update checks.  Is that what you're asking?
[05:21] <mdke> soundray, i'm proud
[05:21] <mdke> rob_p, that's the sort of thing. When I run a cronjob with just the command, it doesn't like it
[05:22] <pizux> salux
[05:22] <gfish> can anyone help with my printer
[05:22] <gfish> its a printer/scanner
[05:22] <gfish> and its on the network
[05:22] <blizzkid> pavelich, did you get my message?
[05:23] <mdke> !ubuntuguide
[05:23] <ubotu> Wish i knew, mdke
[05:23] <mdke> soundray, not so good after all
[05:23] <soundray> mdke, I meant the content, not the syntax you used...
[05:23] <rob_p> mdke:  Did you make sure the script has the executable bit set?
[05:23] <mdke> heh
[05:24] <mdke> rob_p, i didn't try with a script, i just added the command. that is probably why it didn't work
[05:24] <basti> :(
[05:24] <FlimFlamMan> hi.  how do i install the "run application" menu option?
[05:24] <basti> or how to install .deb files (on my harddisk)
[05:24] <aPpYe> soundray, i have to say that ubuntu is just about the nicest looking distro i have run across.  It is just about exactly the system I have been trying to build from source, but my linux experience is kind of limited.  Maybe I'll call it "gentubuntu" or something.
[05:24] <unique311> would an apt-get dist-upgrade help fix my ubuntu?
[05:25] <user_> hello
[05:25] <theCore> how do I uninstall a custom .deb file ?
[05:25] <soundray> aPpYe, check out "apt-cache showpkg ubuntu-desktop". The dependencies should get you close, if you "emerge" all the items.
[05:25] <_jason> theCore, dpkg -r
[05:25] <gnesis> how do i connect gmail with evolution???
[05:26] <user_> why is it so slow when updating ubuntu hoary?
[05:26] <rob_p> mdke:  Try putting the command you want to run in a little shell script and make sure it's executable.  Then, place it in the /etc/cron.whatever dir and it should run just fine.
[05:26] <aPpYe> whoa.  that was a pretty garbled looking list.
[05:26] <mdke> rob_p, yes. i think so
[05:27] <aPpYe> maybe there is a way of cleaning that up ... "man apt-cache" it is!
[05:27] <FlimFlamMan> how do i add the menu option "run application" that lets me run any command without opening a terminal?
[05:27] <selinium> aPpYe, apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop  for a tidy list
[05:27] <soundray> aPpYe, apt-cache showpkg ubuntu-desktop | grep null | tr " " "\n" | grep -v \(null\) | grep -v \(0
[05:27] <soundray> aPpYe, but you may prefer selinium's suggestion...
[05:28] <user_> i only get about 2090 B/s  when downloading package files using synaptic, why is it so slow? I'm on a 1MB/s broadband connection
[05:28] <mdke> gnesis, there is a guide on the gmail website I believe
[05:28] <mdke> gnesis, just follow the one for a similar program if there isn't one for evolution
[05:28] <iiping> lo
[05:28] <aPpYe> selinium, soundray, I will save both lists... why not.
[05:28] <whyameye> Synaptic is asking me to upgrade the complete linux kernel. I don't want to update from Hoary to Breezy. Should I say "install?"
[05:29] <NoUse> whyameye it won't install breezy unless you follow the upgrade steps
[05:29] <mdke> whyameye, just the kernel is probably a security update.
[05:29] <soundray> user_, maybe your router is using QoS settings that favor interactive use over downloading.
[05:29] <selinium> soundray, nice piping
[05:29] <selinium> :)
[05:30] <user_> hmm
[05:30] <soundray> selinium, 7335, innit?
[05:31] <selinium> soundray, lol :)
[05:31] <mdke> !tell mdke about ubuntuguide
[05:31] <soundray> selinium, mixing up the bohemes a bit :)
[05:31] <tmjb> how to build package in ubunutu deb
[05:31] <selinium> soundray, nice and tidy!
[05:32] <MagicFab> hello - q: how will Ubuntu react if a hard disk is removed from a machine and put into another (different hardware) ? How automatic/ manual is the hardware detection and config ?
[05:32] <_jason> ubotu, tell tmjb about checkinstall
[05:32] <_jason> tmjb, is that what you are asking about?
[05:33] <mdke> MagicFab, i reckon it will be ok in most cases. Give it a try and see
[05:33] <soundray> MagicFab, it definitely won't barf all over itself, like a certain other OS.
[05:33] <user_> hello ppl, how to prevent segfaults? or clean it up after it happens?
[05:34] <MagicFab> Other than configuring xorg.conf for vesa generic, what kind of precautions can I take ?
[05:34] <tmjb> _jason: yes check install tnx
[05:35] <jon4s> hey . i cant use SU command, couse i dont know my password.. someone help?
[05:35] <_jason> tmjb, yw
[05:35] <soundray> MagicFab, look at /boot/grub/menu.lst for kernel boot parameters that look machine-specific.
[05:35] <trappist> jon4s: passwd
[05:35] <trappist> oh wait, you'd still need your password :)
[05:35] <jon4s> yes :p
[05:35] <NoUse> !tell jon4s about root
[05:35] <mdke> jon4s, you have your user password? just use sudo
[05:36] <trappist> oh I misread su as sudo
[05:36] <trappist> maybe because it was so big
[05:36] <soundray> MagicFab, probably a good idea to add acpi=off and noapic to the # kopt line and rerun update-grub.
[05:36] <theCore> what i need to do for reinstalling GNOME ?
[05:36] <mdke> hell i moved a gentoo harddisk into another computer and it was fine, more or less
[05:36] <LinuxN00bie> if a segfault occur, what should I do??
[05:37] <NoUse> theCore did you uninstall it?
[05:37] <mdke> LinuxN00bie, file a bug
[05:37] <soundray> theCore, why?
[05:37] <LinuxN00bie> hmm
[05:37] <theCore> NoUse : no, not yet, but I can't login with GNOME it just freeze
[05:38] <mdke> LinuxN00bie, if possible submit the results of following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash with your bug
[05:38] <LinuxN00bie> ok thx...
[05:38] <LinuxN00bie> but if i wanna run the program again
[05:38] <LinuxN00bie> and it keeps segfaulting
[05:38] <LinuxN00bie> then...
[05:38] <epistax> I have a rather slow system here, but still this is the first time that a GUI lagged on thiscomputer.  'top' shows no problems.  It wasn't this way when I first logged on-- any suggestions?
[05:38] <LinuxN00bie> other than restart
[05:38] <NoUse> theCore did it ever run properly?
[05:38] <LinuxN00bie> what should i do?
[05:38] <epistax> The mouse cursor is unbearably choppy
[05:39] <soundray> theCore, can you log in with failsafe?
[05:39] <theCore> it ran perfectly 30 min ago
[05:39] <theCore> now can only the text console
[05:39] <mdke> LinuxN00bie, even more important to file a bug
[05:39] <theCore> soundray: no
[05:40] <LinuxN00bie> i filed lots of bugs..
[05:40] <basti> where to get Motif?
[05:40] <germancito> hello
[05:40] <LinuxN00bie> ...sigh
[05:40] <NoUse> theCore have you tried failsafe mode?
[05:40] <orian> i use ubuntu and i cannot install the macromedia flash plugin, it says since i have amd64 than its not compatible
[05:40] <soundray> theCore, is gdm running?
[05:40] <NoUse> orian macromedia doesn't support AMD64 on Linux
[05:41] <orian> so i wont see flash anymore?
[05:41] <jon4s> hello?
[05:41] <theCore> soundray: no, i'm right now in the text console
[05:41] <LinuxN00bie> so segfaults r caused by bugs?
[05:41] <NoUse> orian https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Flash#head-f4b5a0e592cf89fac0bb7f5388c8e1733413af21
[05:41] <epistax> Problem: mouse is laggy, but no programs of any CPU consequence is running.  What gives?
[05:41] <NoUse> LinuxN00bie they have many causes, many of which are bugs
[05:41] <trappist> orian: with closed-source software like flash you have to wait for the vendor to build for 64 bit.  ubuntu can't do it.
[05:42] <basti> :(
[05:42] <orian> :(
[05:42] <LinuxN00bie> oh..
[05:43] <soundray> theCore, so you don't even get a graphical login screen?
[05:43] <theCore> orian : they're 64 bit open source projects around
[05:43] <orian> so, what do i do now? wait?
[05:43] <daaku> anyone know if its possible to keep firefox running even after i do a gui quit? sort of like keeping it preloaded?
[05:43] <theCore> soundray: I can get the graphical login, and login but after I just get the brown background
[05:44] <soundray> orian, I use swf-player. It works for me in most cases.
[05:44] <theCore> soundray: GNOME just don't load
[05:45] <LinuxN00bie> when I was using windows, many of my files kept corrupting, and chkdsk kept running on startup, now I use ubuntu hoary, sometimes my programs won't run, some of them caused by segfaults, sometimes, i dun even know why a program won't start
[05:45] <soundray> theCore, do you get a clue from ~/.xsession-errors ?
[05:45] <jon4s> when i tab in command "su" to use root in command it asks for psw ofc, but its not the same psw as i typed in install ? what do i type to reset the SU psw ?
[05:45] <soundray> theCore, paste it via pastebin, if you want us to have a look at it.
[05:45] <Adyeths> I just installed the kernel and nvidia-glx-legacy updates that were available. and now I can't start x.
[05:45] <soundray> LinuxN00bie, it sounds like you should run a memtest86
[05:46] <theCore> soundray: a sec I will try start GNOME in failsafe
[05:47] <LinuxN00bie> soundray, how to run it? i typed memtest86 in the terminal and command not found
[05:47] <soundray> LinuxN00bie, the problems you describe could come from a memory fault or overheating.
[05:47] <NoUse> LinuxN00bie its provided at the boot menu
[05:47] <soundray> LinuxN00bie, it's a special kernel.
[05:47] <trappist> LinuxN00bie: memtest86 is an os that boots from grub
[05:47] <LinuxN00bie> oh....
[05:47] <LinuxN00bie> now i get it
[05:48] <soundray> Hey, we all know, don't we :)
[05:48] <LinuxN00bie> ...
[05:48] <rob_p> jon4s:  Did you establish a root password?  If not, there isn't one.  Root login is effectively disabled by default in Ubuntu.
[05:48] <soundray> LinuxN00bie, you aren't overclocking by any chance?
[05:48] <LinuxN00bie> nope
[05:49] <kkathman> has anyone here been successful in setting up a hardware RAID system in Linux, preferably on an ABIT PB6 ?
[05:49] <skapple> does anyone know how i can change the ugly red 'close tab' icon that comes with ubuntu?
[05:50] <LinuxN00bie> thx guys for the help :D
[05:50] <bighil> hi, I have a little problem with the eclipse package under ubuntu 5.10: If I try to open the help menu I get the message "/usr/share/eclipse/debian/help.htm cannot be found". Probably I forgot to install the eclipse doku package, does anyone know its name? I havent found it...
[05:50] <jon4s> i installed ubuntu from 5.04 CD, how do i upgrade to the newset version of ubuntu ?
[05:50] <ethan_> why is it so tricky to get firefox to play videos?  now i can see the first couple seconds of some videos, but most still don't show up
[05:50] <blizzkid> where can I find good themes for gnome?
[05:51] <jon4s> included the fancy boot and so on
[05:51] <Adyeths> I just installed the kernel and nvidia-glx-legacy updates that were available. and now I can't start x. can anyone help me get it working again?
[05:51] <soundray> kkathman, go with software raid. Much more flexible, you can even upgrade your mainboard and still boot the old installation :)
[05:51] <kkathman> jon4s: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[05:52] <theCore> nope, I can't log in GNOME failsafe
[05:52] <kkathman> soundray: thank you for your reponse...apparently he has this board that does all this hardware stuff, but he wants to go to linux rather than using windows. He gets Win support for the hardware RAID I guess.
[05:53] <theCore> however, I can log in the GNOME failsafe term
[05:53] <Adyeths> *sigh*
[05:53] <jon4s> thanks
[05:54] <theCore> soundray: how I can send the .xsession-errors file?
[05:54] <thesilentkiller> what are the fields displayed when u use "ls -l"? specifically, what are the third and fourth column entries?
[05:54] <soundray> theCore, are you chatting on the machine you're fixing?
[05:55] <theCore> soundray: yep!
[05:55] <bighil> Adyeths: which error do you get if you try to start X?
[05:55] <soundray> theCore, on the console?
[05:55] <theCore> soundray: yep! again
[05:55] <soundray> Guys, what's the command line utility that sends stuff to pastebin, please?
[05:56] <Adyeths> it says it was unable to start. and that gdm was disabled until I could fix whatever the problem was.
[05:56] <NoUse> Adyeths can you put /var/log/Xorg.0.log in pastebin?
[05:56] <Adyeths> if I can figure out how to get to the log file I can.
[05:56] <Madeye> guys, how to get beagle index my system?
[05:57] <theCore> [1]  -:- SignOff raingrove: #ubuntu ("Leaving")
[05:57] <oneseventeen> Can I connect to Netware servers (ncpmount) with Breezy Badger?  (I keep getting server not found messages)
[05:57] <NoUse> Adyeths do this, log in to the console and run 'wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin'
[05:57] <basti> Where to get xlib6g ? I wanna install openmotif for opera, but I cant find xlib6g
[05:57] <JRlinux> Trying to install Ubuntu 5.10.  Lots of problems.  Base system did not install all the way; now copying packages failed after a time.  I guess that computer will not support ubuntu...???
[05:57] <NoUse> Adyeths then run 'chmod u+x pastebin'
[05:58] <NoUse> Adyeths then run 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | ~/pastebin'
[05:58] <Adyeths> will that work from the live cd? cuz thats how I had to come in here to ask about this?
[05:58] <JRlinux> The live CD worked fine.  Darnit!
[05:59] <NoUse> Adyeths oh if you have a GUI... did the Live CD mount your disks?
[05:59] <theCore> soundray: I could put on my http server, so you could download it?
[05:59] <Adyeths> no, it didn't mount the hard drive.
[05:59] <soundray> theCore, pls follow the pastebin instructions that NoUse wrote for Adyeths (thanks NoUse)
[05:59] <Adyeths> I did manage to do that manually
[06:00] <NoUse> Adyeths ok, well open up the log file and paste it at this address: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[06:00] <Adyeths> Your data has been posted to http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4858
[06:01] <Adyeths> everything was working perfectly until I installed the updates that were made available today.
[06:01] <JRlinux> I have not had trouble with the CDRom before.  I wonder what the deal it?
[06:02] <NoUse> Adyeths did you run that from the liveCD command prompt?
[06:02] <Adyeths> yes...
[06:02] <JRlinux> I guess no help here... darn.
[06:02] <Adyeths> but I made sure to specify the log file from my hd where I mounted it.
[06:02] <NoUse> Adyeths ok
[06:03] <g3ko13> hi all
[06:03] <NoUse> Adyeths can you do the same for your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[06:03] <Pegasos989> hi
[06:03] <g3ko13> can u help me ?
[06:03] <Pegasos989> Nobody can
[06:03] <skapple> no
[06:03] <trappist> g3ko13: sorry, I don't know the answer to your question
[06:03] <Pegasos989> You are beyond all help
[06:04] <g3ko13> where i can put the codecs for totem gstreamer ?
[06:04] <trappist> !tell g3ko13 about w32codecs
[06:04] <g3ko13> all codecs
[06:04] <NoUse> g3ko13 and in order to use w32codecs you need to install the totem-xine package
[06:05] <Adyeths> Your data has been posted to http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4860
[06:06] <NoUse> Adyeths try commenting out the line in that file that says UseFBDev "true"
[06:06] <FlimFlamMan> i dual-boot debian-stable and ubuntu breezy.  is it possible to set up postgresql on these installations to use the same data files, so that the same database is available regardless of which OS i'm in?
[06:07] <pitti> FlimFlamMan: if you use the same postgresql version, sure
[06:07] <g3ko13> but synaptic want remove ubuntu-desktop..
[06:07] <Adyeths> ok... I'll have to leave in order to try that... be back in a bit.
[06:07] <FlimFlamMan> pitti, thanks
[06:07] <pitti> FlimFlamMan: however, breezy and sarge have different postgresql architectures
[06:07] <Adyeths> thank you, NoUse.
[06:07] <FlimFlamMan> pitti, in what way?
[06:07] <fasteddy> ave
[06:07] <pitti> FlimFlamMan: so either you need to fiddle a bit with the breezy system, or you use the sarge backports of the new infrastructure
[06:08] <pitti> FlimFlamMan: deb http://people.debian.org/~mpitt/packages/sarge-backports/ ./
[06:08] <FlimFlamMan> pitti, what are sarge backports?
[06:08] <pitti> FlimFlamMan: Debian sid and Breezy have a new storage layout
[06:08] <Mr_Lurrrrr> hello
[06:08] <pitti> FlimFlamMan: sid packages built for sarge
[06:08] <theCore> NoUse: I can't get the pastebin file from http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[06:09] <NoUse> theCore what error are you getting?
[06:09] <bozmann> hi there
[06:09] <bozmann> i got serious trouble with my root axx
[06:09] <theCore> NoUse : i just can't contact the server
[06:09] <bozmann> i cannot do a simple su
[06:09] <NoUse> theCore is your internet working?
[06:09] <FlimFlamMan> pitti, if i manage to get postgresql running this way on ubuntu and sarge (eg by moving the postgresql directory to a different location), any idea if anything else will break that expects postgresql files to be in a certain place?
[06:09] <NoUse> !tell bozmann about root
[06:10] <Xenguy> bozmann: use 'sudo -i' for a 'root' window
[06:10] <theCore> NoUse: How I could talk to you if my internet wasn't working ? ;)
[06:10] <tesoro> hm
[06:10] <ekimus> apropos su, is there any design reason in ubuntu besides the usual security stuff why root is disabled?
[06:10] <NoUse> theCore well some people use another PC to IRC for support
[06:10] <fr500> hey
[06:10] <pitti> FlimFlamMan: if you don't use the backports, you must register the sarge cluster in breezy's architecture
[06:10] <nalioth> gigcs: just ask your question
[06:10] <g3ko13> bye all...thx
[06:11] <tesoro> when Im install ubuntu, always get some error with the bootstrap something (return 2)
[06:11] <tesoro> wtf? :o
[06:11] <pitti> FlimFlamMan: man pg_createcluster
[06:11] <NoUse> theCore something is worng on your end, I can download the file just fine
[06:11] <mifritscher> hi
[06:11] <tesoro> elo
[06:11] <MagicFab>  a question to Palm users out there: how do you manage to view in Ubuntu the photographs on your Palm?
[06:11] <mifritscher> do anybody compiled dazuko?
[06:11] <theCore> NoUse : i get this Resolving ubuntulinux.nl... <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:11] <theCore> Connecting to ubuntulinux.nl|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80...
[06:11] <fr500> i want my ubuntu box to act as an access point, i have set the wifi card as master and the hosts are associated, but i can't ping the wired hosts from the wireless hosts
[06:11] <bozmann> thx
[06:12] <jenda> Can anyone help me mount a partition on startup?
[06:12] <soundray> theCore, I've copied pastebin to http://www.soundray.org/pastebin, perhaps you can get it from there.
[06:12] <Stormx2> is there a command I can run which will give my cpu specs?
[06:12] <soundray> Stormx2, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:12] <blizzkid> Does anyone have experience with samsung d-500 and linux?
[06:12] <gigcs> nalioth:you can  add package on cd .
[06:13] <FlimFlamMan> pitti, ok, so i can register another cluster and it will be served up by the default postgresql instance?  do i have to distinguish which cluster to use in connection settings or anything like that?
[06:13] <nalioth> gigcs: please tell the channel what you are doing and the errors you get
[06:13] <tesoro> Anyone knows whats the problem when I try to install ubuntu and in the "main install" it stops and leave a message (return 2) or something
[06:13] <theCore> soundray: nope it dosen't work
[06:14] <theCore> soundray: that wierd
[06:14] <Fanfoua> hi
[06:14] <jenda> nalioth: Do you wnow anything about fstabbing a reiserfs /home pratition?
[06:14] <germancito> whats the problem jenda?
[06:14] <pitti> FlimFlamMan: pg_lscluster will show you the registered clusters and on which ports they are
[06:14] <soundray> Sorry, theCore, I have to go. Hope you get it fixed.
[06:14] <Stormx2> soundray: What about gfx card?
[06:14] <pitti> FlimFlamMan: please read pg_wrapper(1) and pg_createcluster(1)
[06:14] <nalioth> jenda: should be the same format as any other fstab entry
[06:14] <theCore> soundray: thx,
[06:14] <sethk> jenda, it is best to stay away from reiserfs
[06:14] <Fanfoua> can i install Ubuntu first and then Windows XP ?
[06:15] <pitti> FlimFlamMan: but I don't really support accessing sarge clusters with the new architecture
[06:15] <Stormx2> Fanfoua: Yes, but it can cause compications
[06:15] <mifritscher> FATAL: Error inserting dazuko (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/dazuko/dazuko.ko): Invalid argument
[06:15] <blizzkid> Fanfoua, allways install windows first
[06:15] <Fanfoua> but this time i can't
[06:15] <nalioth> jenda: and yes , i agree. reiser is not recommended unless you know what it is and what it does
[06:15] <gigcs> nalioth:i get error apt-step fail .when i add  new package  ubuntu-keyring replace ubuntu-keyring  in cd .
[06:15] <pitti> FlimFlamMan: it will work after some fiddling, but upgrading to the backports on sarge is easier and better
[06:15] <mifritscher> Fanfoua, it works, but is a bit complicated
[06:15] <soundray> Stormx2, less /etc/X11/xorg.conf :)
[06:15] <blizzkid> the other way round, windows will erase the mbr
[06:15] <jenda> germancito: OK: I have two partitions with identical content, AFAIK. THe trouble is that when I tell fstab to mount it, it gives me errors.
[06:15] <nalioth> gigcs is trying to remaster a install cd, and gets the above error. can anyone help him?
[06:16] <sethk> Fanfoua, if windows is the first partition, you can get away with not installing it first
[06:16] <inaddy> o
[06:16] <ompaul> Fanfoua, you can but if you are going to do both in the next 24 hours do Windows first it is just easier, and remember not to give it the whole hard drive leave a few gigs for Ubuntu
[06:16] <jenda> germancito: I suspect it hos to do with different metadata (permissions) management.
[06:16] <sethk> Fanfoua, the mbr problem is easy to solve.  Just backup the mbr before the windows install
[06:16] <LinuxN00bie> when I first tried to install ubuntu hoary, i had to try like 10 times or more, coz the installation kept failing
[06:16] <sethk> Fanfoua, or, restore the mbr later with the grub utility
[06:16] <gigcs> nalioth: thank you .
[06:16] <gigcs> Please
[06:17] <LinuxN00bie> files kept corrupting and the installation won't detect my interface cards
[06:17] <Delvien> glxinfo |grep direct
[06:17] <jenda> germancito, nalioth: I think the problem is that you have to do something to properly copy permissions from an ext3, from which I did, to a reiser, which I would like to use.
[06:17] <Delvien> Hmm,, after i update Xorg is using 45 % of my CPU, anyone else experience this ?
[06:18] <gigcs> help me please.
[06:18] <LinuxN00bie> if i kept reformatting my comp, will I ruin my hard drive?
[06:18] <skapple> anyone here install diablo2 correctly?
[06:18] <nalioth> jenda: a fstab it simple in form. what errors is it giving you in trying to mount it?
[06:18] <dooglus> I'm still having difficulties resizing the NTFS partition on this laptop.  Are there any experts in the house?
[06:18] <sethk> LinuxN00bie, it will explode and burn down your house
[06:18] <Fanfoua>  with the ubuntu install cd after having installed windows ?
[06:18] <nalioth> gigcs: please dont prod folks. wait a few minutes and ask your question again
[06:19] <LinuxN00bie> really..
[06:19] <nalioth> dooglus: have you tried knoppix?
[06:19] <tesoro> Anyone swee?
[06:19] <tesoro> swe*
[06:19] <tesoro> Just need to ask something in swedish
[06:19] <sethk> dooglus, what are you resizing it with?
[06:19] <dooglus> nalioth: I tried it several years ago.  Found it a bit too slow.
[06:19] <LinuxN00bie> i mean, if i reformat it once, like 2 - 3 times in a week
[06:19] <dooglus> sethk: I tried using the breezy install CD and qtparted from the live CD
[06:20] <sethk> dooglus, and what happens?
[06:20] <sethk> LinuxN00bie, it has no physical impact on your hard drive, if that's what you mean.  It isn't a real format
[06:20] <Fanfoua> can i reinstall/reconfigure grub easily with the ubuntu cd after installing windows ?
[06:20] <jenda> nalioth: It's not the mounting. I con mount no problem using "mount", but I think the trouble is that it didn't transfer properly. So  I will rephrase my Q: How can I transfer an entire /home (just one user) from ext3 to reiserfs including permissions and other metadata
[06:21] <dooglus> sethk: qtparted does this: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/qtparted.png
[06:21] <skapple> has anyone here install diablo2 correctly under ubuntu?
[06:21] <nalioth> jenda: it should just copy over, both fs recognize permissions and such. you are copying as user right?
[06:21] <warreng> so i have an interesting situtation... i am running ubuntu locally and i have a server that runs debian.... there's never been a problem, but for some reason now, scp takes FOREVER to copy between the two... all other communication between then is lightning fast.... it's just ssh stuff.... i tried restarting sshd on the server but no luck... thoughts?
[06:22] <lanjelot> what package do i to install to get string.h fonctions to work (strcpy, strcmp, ...) ?
[06:22] <sethk> dooglus, boot windows and do scandisk on the ntfs partition
[06:22] <jenda> nalioth: As user with sudo. Should I do it again without sudo?
[06:22] <LinuxN00bie> sethk, what if "format" here means changing OSes? u need to reformat ur hard drive to a different file system when u switch from windows to linux, what if i do that?
[06:22] <sethk> warreng, probably a name resolution problem.
[06:22] <sethk> LinuxN00bie, as I said, it isn't a real format and it has no physical impact on your disk
[06:22] <nalioth> jenda: try it without any 'superuser' intervention, and see
[06:22] <dooglus> sethk: the install disk says that there's not enough space and that the resize operation may have failed
[06:23] <dooglus> sethk: scandisk finds no problems
[06:23] <LinuxN00bie> hmm...thnx
[06:23] <warreng> sethk: but the scp is going.... it just goes like 10kb and waits 20 secs... and does another 20kb and so on
[06:23] <dooglus> sethk: I've also usedWinXP's defrag to defrag several times.
[06:23] <jenda> nalioth: OK
[06:23] <warreng> but i can wget stuff off the apache server at 100k/s +
[06:23] <LinuxN00bie> so it won't ruin my hard disk?
[06:23] <sethk> dooglus, defrag can't possibly help, and can certainly hurt
[06:23] <sethk> LinuxN00bie, I think that's what I said several times.  :)
[06:23] <LinuxN00bie> and by the way, what is a real format?
[06:23] <dooglus> sethk: I wouldn't have done it, but it was all the advise available here at the time.
[06:23] <blizzkid> Does anyone have experience with bluetooth-phones and ubuntu??
[06:23] <LinuxN00bie> lol
[06:23] <warreng> LinuxN00bie: setting all bits to 0
[06:23] <nalioth> dooglus: have you tried the console program "ntfsresize" ?
[06:24] <SWAT> what do you guys think of this laptop? I'm thinking of buying it :D (HP Compaq Business Notebook nx6110, Celeron M360 1.4GHz, 768MB RAM, 15"TFT (1024*768), 40GB HD, Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN)
[06:24] <sethk> dooglus, is it possible that parted is correct and you don't have enough space?
[06:24] <SWAT> I want Ubuntu to run on it :D
[06:24] <LinuxN00bie> oh..
[06:24] <dooglus> (sethk, other than running something that messes with the partition table, which sounded even more dangerous)
[06:24] <dooglus> nalioth: I've not, no.
[06:24] <lanjelot> what package do i to install to get string.h fonctions to work (strcpy, strcmp, ...) ?
[06:24] <holycow> anyone know if any manufacturers make motherboards with all pci express slots?
[06:24] <dooglus> sethk: I'm trying to resize a 40Gb NTFS partition with 62% free to 20Gb
[06:24] <sethk> dooglus, actually, if you carefully write down and back up the partition table, it is quite safe to mess with it.  You can always restore it using fdisk
[06:24] <RockyBurt> anyone here running nvidia's twinview to expand his X display over two monitors? when i have this active, everytime i launch a new app (firefox, whatever) the window launches maximized and its very annoying
[06:25] <sethk> dooglus, I think it is talking about free space on the disk, not necessarily free space on the partition
[06:25] <nalioth> dooglus: open a terminal and type "man ntfsprogs"
[06:25] <dooglus> sethk: there is only 8Mb unallocated space on the disk.  That's why I'm trying to shrink the NTFS partition, so I can make a new Linux partitionor two
[06:25] <sethk> RockyBurt, I have that config and nothing is lauched maximized
[06:26] <sethk> dooglus, you may need a smarter tool.
[06:26] <lanjelot> what package do i to install to get string.h fonctions to work (strcpy, strcmp, ...) ?
[06:26] <RockyBurt> sethk: yeah, i've been scouring google to no avail :(
[06:26] <LinuxN00bie> err...how to do a real format? take off the hard drive from the CPU and tweak it?
[06:26] <sethk> dooglus, if you can get hold of partition magic, it will do it, but of course partition magic isn't free
[06:27] <sethk> LinuxN00bie, with an IDE drive you don't, and you certainly don't want to.
[06:27] <LinuxN00bie> hmm what will happen if I do it?
[06:27] <sethk> LinuxN00bie, there are commands at the device driver level, but they are hidden from you for good reasons
[06:27] <LinuxN00bie> so doing that can ruin the hard drive...
[06:28] <sethk> LinuxN00bie, if you do it wrong it could take lot's of time to get it back to the state where you can use it.
[06:28] <neophiter> Has anyone had difficulty installing 5.10 off of a burned version of the ISO off the site?
[06:28] <sethk> LinuxN00bie, why in the world would you want to do that?
[06:28] <LinuxN00bie> oh..
[06:28] <pjssilva> Are there any major memory leaks in Breezy? Sometimes my machine uses more than 200Mb of memory with nohting but a gnome-terminal open. Things tend to be worse if I leave the machine on for long time.
[06:28] <dooglus> sethk: I've used partition magic before and it's destroyed NTFS partitions.  I'd rather use something a bit safer.
[06:28] <sethk> neophiter, no.  Have you checked the sum of the downloaded image and such?
[06:28] <nalioth> neophiter: if you've checked the md5 of your iso and burnt it slowly, you shouldn't have any problems
[06:28] <LinuxN00bie> i dun wanna do that...i'm asking coz i'm curious bout it lol
[06:28] <nalioth> dooglus: check out the nftsprogs
[06:28] <sethk> dooglus, everything else is less safe
[06:29] <sethk> dooglus, nothing is safe.
[06:29] <mmina> I am a newbie to linux ...can somoen tell me if there is an equivelent to "Yast" in ubuntu?
[06:29] <sethk> dooglus, certainly the public domain stuff isn't safe
[06:29] <glyn> can someone help me with cvscedega please?  I installed it using user install and it finished yet when I type cvscedega nothing happens to create the directory
[06:29] <glyn> any ideas?
[06:29] <neophiter> It had installed perfectly on another system..
[06:29] <holycow> pjssilva, there is a leak in xorg server i think
[06:29] <holycow> i notice it when i leave firefox open'
[06:29] <neophiter> But now it won't install on a better machine.
[06:29] <dooglus> sethk: the ntfstools stuff claims to be safe according to their web page,doesn't it?
[06:29] <holycow> i've had xorg use up 800 megs of virtual ram easily
[06:29] <yatesy> ?!!
[06:29] <sethk> dooglus, of course.  would you put  up a web page claiming your stuff is unsafe?
[06:30] <sethk> dooglus, I haven't tested them personally
[06:30] <pjssilva> holycow: Anything to do but kill it from time to time?
[06:30] <mifritscher> with what version of gcc is the original kernel compiled?
[06:30] <mifritscher> 3.4 or 4.0?
[06:30] <theCore> how i can reinstall GNOME?
[06:30] <dooglus> sethk: look, from the man page: "ntfsresize(8) : Resize an NTFS partition without losing data"
[06:30] <holycow> pjssilva, i haven't found an answer, i should look it up and see if a bug has been posted
[06:30] <ericmoritz> I have an minor annoyance that maybe someone has figured out, when I'm using headphones on my laptop, my keyboard volume control buttons  become pointless because the headphone volume is independant of the master volume.  Anyone know how to fix that?
[06:31] <XReal> hello, who can i find root terminal on ubuntu 5.10
[06:31] <dooglus> XReal: you shouldn't.  but if you must, "sudo -i"
[06:31] <Pegasos989> XReal, by going to terminal and using sudo before commands :)
[06:31] <tuxxxblade> NoUse,
[06:32] <XReal> thx
[06:32] <pjssilva> holycow: I believe there are more problems. I have just killed X in my work machine (I'm in it through ssh) and it is still using 298M with only 2 days of uptime...
[06:32] <tuxxxblade> NoUse, dude it still dosent play them videos in totem xine
[06:32] <Adyeths> NoUse: thanks for your help. X is working just fine now... without the nvidia-glx drivers though. they seem to be broken now. (they weren't until I installed the update today)
[06:32] <holycow> pjssilva, really? interesting
[06:33] <laffer> I'v downloaded ncurses-5.5.tar.tar from http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/ncurses/ . how do I install ncurses?
[06:33] <bigmoe> can someone tell me in what package i can find libqt-mt.so.3
[06:34] <pjssilva> holycow: Using top I find that the bigger process in terms of resident memory is a python process in the name of the hplip user using only 5Mb of resident memory. My memory is disappering in some drain that top can not find!
[06:34] <dooglus> !libqt-nt.so.3
[06:34] <ubotu> I don't know, dooglus
[06:34] <LinuxN00bie> guys i'm having a really slow download, like few kb per second when updating my ubuntu hoary using the update manager, is the server slow or what?  I'm on a broadband connection, i can download files from other sites as I would normally.
[06:34] <dooglus> !libqt-mt.so.3
[06:34] <ubotu> dooglus: Are you on ritalin?
[06:34] <dooglus> heh.
[06:34] <holycow> pjssilva, weird indeed
[06:35] <pjssilva> bigmoe: Package liqt3-mt
[06:35] <pjssilva> Sorry... libqt3-mt
[06:35] <holycow> pjssilva, my biggest ram hogs are epiphany and xorg ... killing either gets me down to a nice normal ram usage level
[06:35] <holycow> i will try to run a box like your, standalone for testing
[06:36] <theCore> *sigh* today is a bad day for me: my wifi card dosen't work with WEP, I broke GNOME while trying fixing the wifi, and now I can't get anything from the net exept irc ... *sigh*
[06:36] <pjssilva> holycow: I have already experienced this on two machines: home and work. How can I find out how much memory the kernel is using?
[06:37] <Cryptid> HOw do i Upgrade my FireFoc to the latest Version
[06:37] <holycow> pjssilva, that question is beyond my knowledge unfortunately
[06:37] <dooglus> I just noticed thatt qtparted tells me "No Implementation: Support for opening ntfs file systems is not implemented yet" in the console I ran it from.  Is that true?
[06:37] <hawking> Is there a way to divide an mp3 file into parts? I want to take the last minute of a song and make an mp3 file is that possible?
[06:37] <mmina> can some one help me install an rpm what is the easiest way to install an rpm package that is not part of the database?
[06:37] <LinuxN00bie> guys i'm having a really slow download, like few kb per second when updating my ubuntu hoary using the update manager, is the server slow or what?  I'm on a broadband connection, i can download files from other sites as I would normally.
[06:37] <dooglus> mmina: you can use a package called "alien" to install .rpm files
[06:38] <nalioth> pjssilva: open a terminal and type "free"
[06:38] <markmtc> hawking, you can do it with audacity.
[06:38] <dooglus> mmina: you know ubuntu is a debian-based distro,. right? we use .deb files, not .rpm if we have a choice
[06:38] <pjssilva> nalioth: That's how I found out about the 298M.
[06:38] <pjssilva> nalioth: Here is the output.
[06:38] <pjssilva>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[06:38] <pjssilva> Mem:        906388     825216      81172          0     216416     309892
[06:38] <pjssilva> -/+ buffers/cache:     298908     607480
[06:38] <pjssilva> Swap:       265064      12536     252528
[06:38] <NoUse> tuxxxblade you installed w32codeca and totem-xine?
[06:38] <mmina> dooglus: I tried typing this syntax and it said command  not found I used "alien -i filename.rpm"
[06:39] <nalioth> pjssilva: please read the /topic
[06:39] <NoUse> pjssilva please read the /topc, pasting is rude
[06:39] <dooglus> mmina: you'll need to install 'alien' first
[06:39] <nalioth> mmina: what are you wanting to install?
[06:39] <pjssilva> Sorry, I though that the output was short enough not to disrupt other conversations.
[06:39] <LinuxN00bie> guys
[06:39] <LinuxN00bie> why is the update so slow?
[06:40] <theCore> why I can use irc and can't browse the web ?
[06:40] <NoUse> LinuxN00bie we don't run the server, it's probably bogged down today since they released an update to the kernel
[06:40] <thesilentkiller> can anyone tell me what are the fields displayed when u use "ls -l"? specifically, what are the third and fourth column entries?
[06:40] <LinuxN00bie> sigh...
[06:41] <pjssilva> nalioth: Just to let you know, same machine after reboot: only 64Mb used.
[06:41] <tuxxxblade> yeah
[06:41] <smo> thesilentkiller: they're owner & group .. part of the unix permissions
[06:41] <NoUse> tuxxxblade and what error are you getting?
[06:41] <tuxxxblade> it can play the videos but no sound wha
[06:41] <tuxxxblade> none
[06:41] <mmina> nalioth: I am trying to install novel client for Linux
[06:41] <thesilentkiller> smo: i used chown to change the owner..how do i change the group?
[06:41] <tuxxxblade> NoUse, it just dosent play the sound
[06:41] <NoUse> tuxxxblade does sound work in other apps?
[06:42] <tuxxxblade> mmina, whats novel?
[06:42] <tuxxxblade> NoUse, well yeah
[06:42] <NoUse> tuxxxblade check what output method totem is using, try setting it to esd
[06:42] <thesilentkiller> smo: never mind..i guess its chgrp ...thanks for the info
[06:42] <nalioth> tuxxxblade: novell
[06:42] <frickle> does anyone know how i can install my usb adsl modem ??
[06:42] <smo> thesilentkiller: chown will do it too .. usually user.group or user:group where you'd usually just have owner
[06:42] <mmina> tuxxxblade Novell 5.1 The client was iniitially written for SUSE linux and not it is supposed to work on all dist.
[06:43] <thesilentkiller> smo: oh i c....thanks
[06:43] <tuxxxblade> oki ty
[06:43] <hawking> markmtc : that seems complicated
[06:43] <Paradoxx> what s/w utility i can use to copy the image of a cd?
[06:43] <tuxxxblade> mmina,  n what is it supposed to do
[06:43] <nalioth> mmina: install alien from the repos, and use it as dooglus suggested
[06:43] <laffer> I'v downloaded ncurses-5.5.tar.tar from http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/ncurses/ . how do I install ncurses?
[06:44] <pjssilva> Paradoxx: k3b or gnomebacker
[06:44] <markmtc> hawking, what song is it?
[06:44] <mmina> nalioth: I am working on it and it installed I am trying to see if it worked.... no errors so far.
[06:45] <hawking> markmtc: Lethe of Dark Tranquility
[06:45] <nalioth> mmina: as a rule, foreign pkgs dont play well with ubuntulog
[06:46] <nalioth> or ubuntu either
[06:46] <markmtc> hawking, open the song with audacity, select what you want copy, edit->copy, new song, paste, save as
[06:46] <mmina> nalioth ... it is not looking good, I see .deb file created....
[06:46] <nmsa> hello
[06:47] <nalioth> mmina: no. thats good. open a terminal to where the .deb is, and run "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[06:47] <nmsa> I have the process Xorg running in my system, I can see it from top but not from ps
[06:47] <hawking> markmtc: how can i select?
[06:47] <nmsa> is running for a long time can I kiil -15 ?
[06:47] <markmtc> with the mouse
[06:47] <TokenBad> a friend who just installed ubuntu for the first time is asking how to get his dialup modem to work with ubuntu since it don't detect the modem
[06:48] <laffer> I'v downloaded ncurses-5.5.tar.tar from http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/ncurses/ . how do I install ncurses?
[06:49] <NoUse> TokenBad it's hard to diagnoze a problem without detalis but it could be a winmodem
[06:49] <ompaul> TokenBad, which version of ubuntu is it? what kind of modem is it?
[06:49] <hawking> markmtc: sorry but where exactly? on my window there is a blue graph at the bottom near it there is a small window on it there is a grenn stuff and on it there are buttons
[06:49] <NoUse> !tell TokenBad about winmodem
[06:49] <TokenBad> ompaul, he said it came in a hp computer
[06:49] <nalioth> nmsa: if you kill xorg, your gui will go away
[06:49] <mmina> nalioth: I have and it executed without any errors.... next test is attempting to start the client
[06:49] <TokenBad> so it could be
[06:49] <jenda> nalioth: Thanks. It was all there as root, so copying it again as a normal user should help. cp-ing now...
[06:49] <theCore> okay ... could someone explain me why I can't browser or wget , but I still can use irc and ssh, and with ssh log to a free shell server and then browse the web ?
[06:50] <nalioth> jenda: dont use sudo unless you are manipulating things for the system
[06:50] <NoUse> theCore do you use a proxy to get out to the web?
[06:50] <theCore> NoUse: no
[06:50] <smo> NoUse, apt-get install libncurses5 .. you shouldn't be installing packages from source without a very good reason, it'll just confuse the package manager and cause problems later
[06:50] <TokenBad> ubuntu 5.10 I think is the version he installed
[06:51] <jenda> nalioth: Yeah... the thing was that the temporary folder I mounted the partition to was owned by root. Nothing a chown can't fix.
[06:51] <smo> oops
[06:51] <smo> laffer, that was for you ^^
[06:51] <ericmoritz> doesn't breezy have a graphical start up?
[06:51] <Paradoxx> where is gnomebaker is the image burning utility
[06:51] <NoUse> theCore are you connected directly or through a router?
[06:51] <NoUse> ericmoritz if you install the default package set yes
[06:52] <nmsa> nalioth: 'thnx, I was thinking, but never tried ... is n a remote system where I use no gui for quie some time nor plan to do it soon
[06:52] <theCore> NoUse: through a router
[06:52] <turix> allright this is what happened
[06:52] <turix> i ran fullscreen with a wineprogram
[06:52] <jenda> Paradoxx: where? Sound & Video...
[06:52] <turix> http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1kn.png
[06:52] <markmtc> hawking, in the private
[06:52] <NoUse> theCore I would check the router and make sure everything is setup ok
[06:52] <turix> that happened,
[06:52] <turix> i adjusted Applications.. etc.. back to normal
[06:52] <Paradoxx> jenda: the option in gnomebaker to do it
[06:53] <dooglus> nadia007: I tried using ntfstools.  Here's the new error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4861
[06:53] <turix> but when i try to minimize programs as gAIM and azereus they don't show up at the top panel
[06:53] <nadia007> just wondering what people here have used for setting up a streaming media server?
[06:53] <turix> anyone please help me
[06:53] <markmtc> hawking, send me the file
[06:54] <Stormx2> how do I set up X so that it focuses windows onmouseover, but only brings them to front when the titlebar is clicked?
[06:54] <nalioth> jenda: be careful with chown
[06:54] <NoUse> turix you need to set gaim to show up in the panel, it doesn't do it by default
[06:54] <dooglus> Stormx2: that would be a window manager setting, not an X setting.
[06:55] <dooglus> Stormx2: what window manager do you use?
[06:55] <jenda> Paradoxx: It's there on the toolbar on the right. Or in the Actions menu
[06:55] <nalioth> nmsa: if it is a system you dont use xorg on, you can use bum to disable from starting up
[06:55] <jenda> nalioth:  I know, but thanks.
[06:55] <hawking> how can i change the sound at startup?
[06:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell nmsa about bum
[06:55] <hawking> I mean that ubuntu music... I want to put somethin else
[06:55] <nmsa> nalioth: bum ?
[06:56] <z3r0x> hi guys
[06:56] <dooglus> hawking: System->Preferences->Sound
[06:56] <nalioth> nmsa: check your private messages
[06:56] <Stormx2> dooglus: metacity, gnome, whatever ;-)_
[06:56] <z3r0x> I'm trying to find the gateway in ettercap but it won't find it....what can I do?
[06:56] <turix> NoUse, it is set to show up in tray
[06:56] <turix> what is wrong?
[06:56] <sexcopter8000m> is there a way for me to play a video clip with a slightly increased framerate than when it was compiled?
[06:56] <sexcopter8000m> but without altering the sound
[06:57] <dooglus> Stormx2: metacity's settings for that are in System->Preferences->Windows
[06:57] <NoUse> turix right click on the panel, click add to panel and select "notication area"
[06:57] <dooglus> Stormx2: tick the first box, and not the 2nd
[06:57] <Mabus06> without altering the sound? what do you mean sexcopter8000m?
[06:57] <nmsa> nalioth: I sqw it, 'thnx
[06:57] <Stormx2> dooglus: Thanks :)
[06:57] <turix> NoUse, thanks dude
[06:57] <sexcopter8000m> Mabus06, well, the visual aspect seems to lag behind a bit, gradually more lag as the video plays on
[06:58] <dooglus> hawking: System->Preferences->Sound->Sound Events->System Events->Log in
[06:58] <sexcopter8000m> Mabus06, just wondered if i could up the fps from 15 to say 15.5 and see if it's better
[06:58] <jenda> nalioth: what does the 'pass' column in fstab mean?
[06:58] <Mabus06> sexcopter8000m, no idea
[06:58] <ericmoritz> NoUse: What package does that?
[06:58] <Pegasos989> Hmmh. I can't start totem. It says that video output is in use of another application, tho it isn't. Any ideas to solving this?
[06:58] <sexcopter8000m> Mabus06, no worries, i could probably use mencoder but it's a bitch to use imho
[06:59] <dooglus> jenda: see 'man fstab': The
[06:59] <dooglus>        root filesystem should be specified with a fs_passno of  1,  and  other
[06:59] <dooglus>        filesystems  should  have a fs_passno of 2.
[06:59] <jenda> Paradoxx: Found it?
[06:59] <Mabus06> Pegasos989, it is probably being used by something you wouldn't think
[06:59] <nalioth> jenda: fsck uses that field to decide when/how to check the partition
[06:59] <jenda> OK
[07:00] <JRlinux> 5.10 disks?  Why?  My friend sent me a folder with both a live ubuntu 5.10 and an install 5.10.  Neither one will install in my other machine.  Says the CD ROM cannot read parts of it... I have NO trouble with other disks-- am right now copying over a full disk on it.  What is going on?
[07:00] <Mabus06> dooglus, no pasting in here please
[07:00] <Harti> bis spter
[07:00] <Pegasos989> Mabus06, hmmh. Any idea of how to find out what is using it?
[07:00] <Mabus06> Just close everything, if you're watching a movie anyway.
[07:00] <absenth> fyi:  if anyone stops here asking for help with configuring the Cisco VPN Client on Ubuntu,  I can confirm that vpnc works at least as well, if not better, with far fewer headaches.
[07:01] <londonboi2k3> Hi guys, I am playing around with dapper, but there seems to be a lot of broken packeges, anyone else getting this?
[07:01] <nmsa> nalioth: I got the picture, but I have no gui to the system now and will take a while until I can see the system and install/use bum, any other option?
[07:02] <Pegasos989> Mabus06, I only have evolution mail, xChat, firestarter and firefox on, and I can't close firefox as I am trying to watch the thing with it (it's on aw ebsite and no, can't dl it)
[07:02] <nmsa> must be a init something , but which option from 2-5?
[07:03] <nalioth> nmsa: ssh into the box and run " sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop "
[07:03] <absenth> londonboi2k3: I suspect the whole "Unstable" part of Dapper has something to do with it.
[07:03] <Pegasos989> Mabus06, none of those should be a prob, right?
[07:03] <Mabus06> xchat plays sound, Pegasos989
[07:03] <nmsa> nalioth: this is it, 'thnx
[07:03] <uenyioha> is it possible to play wm10 files in ubuntu?
[07:03] <absenth> londonboi2k3: it's not due out until sometime around January/Feburary
[07:03] <Pegasos989> Mabus06, oh, okay...  :D Well... I'll try, thanks
[07:03] <londonboi2k3> absenth, thats interesting, since yesturday I had no problems, I upgraded from breezy, but today I wanted to try the Flight 1 CD, and because of that there are a lot of broken packeges
[07:03] <selutha> I have a laptop that the builtin nic causes problems and i want to stop it from loading. It is loading a 3com 3c59x. How can i stop this from loading on boot up?
[07:04] <glyn> hmm I need to be root for this install to work
[07:04] <nalioth> uenyioha: theoretically, yes,
[07:04] <glyn> how do I make a root pw?
[07:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell uenyioha about w32codecs
[07:04] <londonboi2k3> absenth, I know its not due out, im playing with it and when I find bugs ill send them in
[07:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell glyn about root
[07:04] <londonboi2k3> tell londonboi2k3 about w32codecs
[07:04] <Cred> Hello. I have USB mic that is mounted at /dev/dsp1. How can I tell Sound Recorder or Audacity to use it? Apparently they both use /dev/dsp or something.
[07:04] <MarcN> tell Marcn about w32codecs
[07:05] <MarcN> hmm, can't tell myself?
[07:05] <uenyioha> nalioth: ok...so if i just install this thats all?
[07:05] <HappyFool> MarcN: try /msg ubotu tell Marcn about w32codecs
[07:05] <selutha> or another quesition is if i have a buitin 3c59x on-board nic and lets say i put in a 3c59x pci card how can i have it not load anything for the onboard and load the drivers for the pci card?
[07:05] <glyn> nailoth:nice, thanks
[07:05] <mifritscher> why do ubuntu have kernel 2.6.12, but headers for 2.6.11?!
[07:05] <MarcN> HappyFool:  thanks.
[07:06] <HappyFool> mifritscher: install linux-headers-386 (or -686, -k7, etc.)
[07:06] <jenda> nalioth: everything works. thanx again.
[07:06] <Pegasos989> Wasn't about xChat. Still no idea that what causes totem to think that something is using the video output
[07:06] <nalioth> uenyioha: if you are lucky, it ''should'' work
[07:06] <tsw> Hi, how can I make a slave dns server that serves two master servers independently? (Iknow this is offtopic, but cant find a better channel )
[07:06] <uenyioha> nalioth: vlc will use it?
[07:06] <selutha> if someone can give me a keyword or point me in the right dircetion i think i google can solve the rest
[07:07] <uenyioha> nalioth: i have an amd64 it just barfed about that but i did a forced install
[07:07] <nalioth> uenyioha: vlc comes with it's own codecs, but all other media players should use them
[07:07] <trappist> vim --version says vim64 but an strace reveals it's looking in /usr/share/vim63 for plugins and whatnot.  strikes me as a bug.
[07:07] <absenth> tsw: read about Bind, and DNS Master.
[07:07] <nalioth> uenyioha: ah! well then, w32codecs wont work for you without some work on your part
[07:07] <mifritscher> ah, thanks :-)
[07:08] <uenyioha> nalioth: care to illuminate...i think i can work around it if I'm told how
[07:08] <soundray> selutha, usually you would set this kind of thing via a kernel boot option in /boot/grub/menu.lst .
[07:08] <HappyFool> selutha: ideally disable the on-board NIC in your BIOS setup (on boot-up)
[07:08] <tsw> absenth: I have, but cant find any sample for two different masters, could you point me to a good rtfm?
[07:08] <nalioth> uenyioha: you can run w32codecs, flash, and other things that dont run in amd64 in a 32-bit chroot
[07:08] <soundray> selutha, it is possible that with the right option you might even get the card to work properly.
[07:08] <Pegasos989> Maybe the best solution would be jsut to change the firefox plugin from totem to mPlayer. How can I do this?
[07:09] <basti__> if I install linux-686 and the pc reboots fine, is it safe to remove linuk-386 ?
[07:09] <selutha> soundray, HappyFool uhoo thanks both of you totally forgot about bios :/ and thanks for the menu.lists i can googe the correct stuff from there i think
[07:09] <theCore> soundray: yabadabadoo! I made GNOME work!
[07:09] <absenth> tsw, so you want to have 2 master DNS servers, and one slave from those masters?
[07:09] <soundray> theCore, well done! What was the problem?
[07:09] <simonvallore> /epenis
[07:10] <absenth> tsw: tell you what...  meet me in ubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:10] <uenyioha> nalioth: ok...drat
[07:10] <selutha> soundray, acually the internal card is really boked that is why the lap was free. everything works until i activate it. I think it has something to do with the ibm implementation of it. So far it can work in windows only when you use a special driver from ibm.
[07:10] <Pegasos989> !plugins
[07:10] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Pegasos989
[07:10] <simonvallore> Based on the uptime of my Linux 2.6.12-9-386 box, my e-Penis is 4.93 inches (12.52 cm) erect! Biggest erection ever was 6.48 inches (16.46 cm)!
[07:10] <Pegasos989> :/
[07:11] <soundray> selutha, I see. Well, maybe the BIOS option will fix it for you.
[07:11] <theCore> soundray: when I was trying to make my wifi card work, I try to rewrite the /etc/network/interfaces , I did forget the most important device: the loopback !
[07:12] <glyn> could someone give me a link to mp3 support for ubuntu please?
[07:12] <glyn> I just reinstalled
[07:12] <glyn> and have a bad memory
[07:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell glyn about mp3
[07:12] <selutha> soundray, ya i hope it will but didnt know i could pass stuff like that in menu.lst have to look that up too :) all good knowledge thanks
[07:12] <glyn> thanks nalioth
[07:12] <donza> hi all
[07:13] <basti__> If I am going to set up a small irc-server is it better to use ircd-irc2 or ircd-hybrid ?
[07:14] <mifritscher> I use unreald *g*
[07:14] <mifritscher> +anope
[07:14] <pussfeller> ngircd for a small server is eaiser to configure
[07:15] <basti__> ok thx pussfeller
[07:16] <Stormx2> why does firefox take up ~100mb of ram...
[07:17] <Pygi> because "you" allowed it or it is blocked
[07:17] <Stormx2> what?
[07:17] <Pygi> ah :/
[07:17] <glyn> okayyyy....yeaaaah!
[07:17] <theCore> soundray: yet another yabadabadoo , I fixed my internet too!
[07:17] <Stormx2> ..... Pygi - what?
[07:18] <Pygi> I have to go now, but if you are here when I come back I'll explain it to you
[07:18] <Pygi> or maybe write me ur mail on pm
[07:18] <Stormx2> *sigh* where's the cheapest place I can get ~750mb of ram?
[07:18] <yi> you can't really get 750 megs of ram
[07:18] <Stormx2> I can live with 1.4ghz.. but this is getting ridiculous
[07:19] <soundray> theCore, excellent.
[07:19] <theCore> soundray: everythings is going back on track
[07:19] <soundray> Stormx2, have you thought about reducing the cache size for firefox?
[07:20] <LinuxN00bie> guis, is it ok if memtest86 freezes there?
[07:20] <depp> hello
[07:20] <akhil> i'm trying to install gvpndialer, it asks for 'glib' - what pkg to install?
[07:20] <theCore> what is the avantage of a 686 kernel over 386 one ?
[07:20] <soundray> Stormx2, the cheapest RAM is in your swap partition btw. :-)
[07:20] <mp3guy> will ubuntu have any problems if i replace my 2.4GHz P4 with a 3.0GHz?
[07:20] <depp> anyone using toshiba laptop?
[07:21] <soundray> LinuxN00bie, no, you probably have faulty memory.
[07:21] <soundray> mp3guy, no it won't.
[07:21] <LinuxN00bie> hmm
[07:21] <nalioth> LinuxN00bie: memtest freezing is never good
[07:21] <LinuxN00bie> so what should i do??
[07:22] <theCore> LinuxN00bie: buy ram
[07:22] <LinuxN00bie> omg
[07:22] <n0dl> how much ram do you have?
[07:22] <LinuxN00bie> so my RAM cards r ruined...
[07:22] <LinuxN00bie> 512 MB
[07:22] <n0dl> oooo... thats not good
[07:22] <LinuxN00bie> why?
[07:22] <n0dl> i mean that your cards are ruined
[07:22] <n0dl> sorry
[07:22] <LinuxN00bie> ....
[07:22] <n0dl> hehe
[07:23] <navarone> lol
[07:23] <LinuxN00bie> ^_^
[07:23] <soundray> LinuxN00bie, if you've got more than one module, test them one by one.
[07:23] <LinuxN00bie> hmm
[07:23] <akhil> anyone?
[07:23] <sethk> LinuxN00bie, odds are it is only one card
[07:23] <basti__> could someone try to explain me the difference between | and && ?
[07:23] <depp> anyone has toshiba, and cant reboot?
[07:23] <LinuxN00bie> but my rams r 2 256 MB cards
[07:23] <Stormx2> soundray: Eek, but swap is slow...
[07:24] <Stormx2> LinuxN00bie: come on, try and spell...
[07:24] <Zedman> hello. ubuntu people :-) what kernel do you mean I should use on my amd athlon 64 processor on the ubuntu amd64 arch? is the k8 better then the generic one or what do you think?
[07:24] <mifritscher> hmm, still have FATAL: Error inserting dazuko (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/dazuko/dazuko.ko): Invalid argument
[07:24] <LinuxN00bie> what do u mean spell?
[07:24] <mifritscher> using http://www.dazuko.org/tgen.shtml#DEBIAN
[07:24] <HappyFool> akhil: have you tried 'apt-cache search --names-only glib' ?
[07:25] <soundray> theCore, the 686 proc. series supports an extended command set. gcc knows about this and compiles more efficient code specific for 686 and higher cpus.
[07:25] <akhil> HappyFool: yes
[07:25] <HappyFool> LinuxN00bie: as in "you" instead of 'u' ;)
[07:25] <Stormx2> LinuxN00bie: and "are" instead of "r"
[07:25] <theCore> LinuxN00bie: I did got a corrupted ram card 2 weeks ago too. So, my ram size droped to 192MB from 256
[07:25] <LinuxN00bie> oh...
[07:25] <greenpenguin13> exit
[07:25] <HappyFool> akhil: my guess would be libglib2.0-dev
[07:25] <theCore> soundray: okay ... so it faster
[07:26] <PsyberOne_away_> isn't a chip at that point not card?
[07:26] <LinuxN00bie> RAM...
[07:26] <akhil> HappyFool: you are a saint, thank you sir
[07:26] <LinuxN00bie> great...now i can't hear any sound
[07:26] <soundray> Zedman, run the k8 kernel if you need speed. Run k7 if you need compatibility with Acrobat Reader, Macromedia Flash and the like.
[07:27] <rraajj> Hi all! Where can I find the packages copied by the installer to my HDD?
[07:27] <rraajj> I just upgraded my Hoary to Breezy and I wanted to delete those hoary packages.
[07:27] <PsyberOne_away_> RAM comes in sticks not cards and banks or chips can fail, just being obsessive
[07:27] <theCore> soundray: I tried to install the 686 kernel but when I boot it , it doesn't detect my wifi card ...
[07:28] <HappyFool> rraajj: i think the usual place is /var/cache/apt/archives -- otherwise do a 'locate *.deb' to try to find them
[07:28] <soundray> rraajj, just do a apt-get autoclean ?
[07:28] <selutha> soundray, k the bios didnt do it, so if i want to pass this through the menu.lst how to do that is dictated by the version of kernel right?
[07:28] <acadavid> Hi, i got a problem, i can't download programs with apt-get or aptitude, it always says that there is not candidate for instalation, my sources.list file is Ok
[07:28] <acadavid> I tried with amsn and xmms
[07:29] <HappyFool> acadavid: have you run 'sudo aptitude update' ?
[07:29] <HappyFool> acadavid: if so, please put your sources.list on the pastebin (paste.ubuntulinux.nl)
[07:29] <akhil> i have an installer complaining it cant find a header file that i can see in /usr/include -- do i add this to my $PATH var manually?
[07:29] <Pegasos989> How can I access /home/myusername/.xchat/downloads/ ? in myusername folder i don't see those starting with .
[07:29] <rraajj> soundray: I'm guessing that will delete all packages that have existing higher versions also residing in the drive?
[07:29] <soundray> theCore, maybe you need linux-restricted-modules-686
[07:29] <soundray> rraajj, yes.
[07:29] <LinuxN00bie> soundray if memtest86 freezes there, is it still in progress or the whole thing got hanged?
[07:30] <HappyFool> akhil: normally you need a '-I /path/to/include/directory' argument to gcc (or g++)
[07:30] <Zedman> soundray: thanks... that helped me...
[07:30] <Trackilizer> Hey guys, have a quick question.. i got an old monitor from a freind but my video card only supports one card, so is there anyway i can connect the monitor to the onboard graphics?
[07:30] <Stormx2> Pegasos989: They are hidden files
[07:30] <HappyFool> akhil: however, 'configure' and the various Makefiles should have all that setup already
[07:30] <Stormx2> Pegasos989: Try hitting Alt + H or Ctrl + H
[07:30] <soundray> selutha, no, there is a line that says # kopt=... Everything there gets appended to every kernel you boot.
[07:31] <Stormx2> Pegasos989: Otherwise, try preferences
[07:31] <theCore> soundray: ahh that right, I completely forgotten about this pkg. thx a lot :)
[07:31] <rraajj> soundray: Will try. Thanks a lot!
[07:31] <Pegasos989> Stormx2, ctrl+h worked, thanks
[07:31] <soundray> LinuxN00bie, if nothing happens on the screen, you might as well switch it off.
[07:31] <LinuxN00bie> ye that was it
[07:31] <akhil> HappyFool: its the ./configure thats giving me the hassle, when i have the library intalled
[07:32] <PsyberOne_away_> Trackilizer I haven't seen any way to get onboard video and a card to co-exist, but I don't know everything
[07:32] <selutha> soundray, sorry i didnt word my question very well, I am trying to find out what i need to pass to the kernel. Where can i find what i can pass listed? is there a man file or is there somewhere on the web?
[07:32] <LinuxN00bie> sigh...so i need to get new ram cards
[07:32] <wouldhide> how xan i log in to gui in root mode
[07:32] <nicholaspaul> Q: i can't copy my home folder to an ext. firewire drive  even with a 'master' user. What should i change??
[07:32] <soundray> Zedman, so what are you going to run?
[07:33] <HappyFool> akhil: i think config.log (or config.status?) contains the actually commands configure uses to do its tests; you can look there for clues as to what is wrong
[07:33] <nalioth> nicholaspaul: nothing. you are swimming across the desert
[07:33] <smo> selutha, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/BootPrompt-HOWTO.html is probably a good start.  I believe there's docs in the kernel sourcetree also, if you need to go digging further
[07:33] <soundray> selutha, I'll have a quick look.
[07:33] <nicholaspaul> nalioth, oh of course. hehehe
[07:33] <nicholaspaul> hi nalioth !!!
[07:34] <Zedman> soundray: I will install both kernels on my machine, maybe its the best way...
[07:34] <nicholaspaul> nalioth,  shouldnt i just be able to make a God-like user and drag files to the ext f/w ?
[07:34] <nalioth> nicholaspaul: it's not about user perms, it's about hardware
[07:34] <Trackilizer> Psyberone, so i would have to buy a new card? would you have any suggestions? I'm not a gamer so it doesn't have to be the best card around.
[07:34] <Zedman> soundray: on sarge amd64 I used the k8 one...
[07:36] <crighton> is it possible to use regular expressions in the nautilus search for files dialog? if so what syntax, do i need to delimit the pattern or anything else
[07:36] <nicholaspaul> nalioth, oh. Hardware. Damnit! But I can drag other files over quite happily.
[07:36] <Gameplayer> hello
[07:37] <nicholaspaul> nalioth, the error i get is '/home/user/X.authority' cannot be copied because you do not have permission to read it.'
[07:38] <PinTo> l o
[07:38] <mfinch> I know this isn't a "ubuntu" question but I want to download a DVD install (+2 GB).  What client do I use for this?  Firefox and all FTP clients I use stop the file 2.1 GB.
[07:38] <PinTo> MF azureus
[07:38] <robert__> test
[07:39] <Gameplayer> i found a website that sell ubuntu cds by doing a random search... that seem very odd....
[07:39] <tesoro> Can I rename my machine?
[07:39] <tesoro> somehow?
[07:39] <nalioth> Gameplayer: 'ray free enterprise!
[07:39] <MAPD> hi
[07:39] <HiddenWolf> Gameplayer, there are multiple cd's
[07:39] <HiddenWolf> sellers
[07:39] <MAPD> anyone knows a lot about dns servers, reverse, domains etc?
[07:39] <soundray> selutha, I can't find the answer quickly.
[07:39] <HiddenWolf> tesoro, yes, you have to update /etc/hostname, and perhaps some other places.
[07:39] <nicholaspaul> nalioth, if its hardware, why can i copy some files but not others?
[07:40] <selutha> soundray, np that web page you sent me is very helpful, i think i can google it from here thanks alot
[07:40] <absenth> Can anyone point me in the direction of a howto, guide, or other source of documentation I can RTFM in relation to how I might fix the following"  I installed the nvidia-glx package, before upgrading my kernel to the k7 kernel package.  now X fails complaining about a missing nvidia module. Un-installing the nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings packages, and then re-installing them didn't work.
[07:40] <Gameplayer> mmmhhh... yep
[07:40] <HappyFool> mfinch: i'd try wget with the -c switch, and check what the error is
[07:40] <smo> mfinch, 2.1Gb sounds more like a filesystem limitation
[07:40] <soundray> selutha, to see if disabling the card would work, you could move the driver modules to a location where the kernal doesn't find it.
[07:40] <tesoro> HiddenWolf: Actually dunno :)
[07:40] <selutha> soundray, even with it disabled in the bios it still comes up :/ but i have thought about moving the module
[07:41] <PinTo> "i have heard linux is easy when u know how" i dont know where to start?
[07:41] <selutha> soundray, at this point i am trying to expand my understanding some
[07:41] <LinuxN00bie> YAY ubuntu servers speed up now
[07:41] <tesoro> HiddenWolf: Any commando I can try in the terminal?
[07:41] <soundray> selutha, it may be in your initrd, though, in which case it will be harder to move.
[07:41] <sethk> PinTo, start with something easy
[07:41] <lookthere> what is the easiest way to upgrade from hoary to breezy? I couldn't find anything with a search
[07:41] <navarone> I just upgraded to 686 arch kernel and boot up is about 5+ seconds faster
[07:41] <LinuxN00bie> aww i love ubuntu
[07:41] <selutha> soundray, the simplest thing i can think of is have it run a script to unload the moudule after it finishies booting
[07:42] <Loevborg> Does anyone know if there a companies selling ubuntu-ready (or even ubuntu-certified) laptops? (ie. all functions work)
[07:42] <HappyFool> !tell lookthere about breezy
[07:42] <theCore> PinTo: a really good way to start with linux is build your own distro from strach
[07:42] <Loevborg> Preferably in Europe ;)
[07:42] <PinTo> sethk i installed ubuntu yesterday ...on a slave ...i need some easy walkthroughs ?
[07:42] <HiddenWolf> tesoro, open /etc/hostname in an editor -> sudo nano /etc/hostname.
[07:42] <sorush20> I want all my programs to use the KDE open and save dialouges how can I do that for now the OOo is using the gnome?
[07:42] <theCore> PinTo: s/strach/sratch/
[07:42] <LinuxN00bie> theCore, like gentoo?
[07:42] <LinuxN00bie> hard..
[07:42] <lookthere> thanks
[07:42] <soundray> absenth, you need the linux-restricted-modules package that goes with your installed kernel.
[07:42] <absenth> Loevborg: outside of the winmodem which I have no use for, my "centrino" based notebook with the Intel WiFi, and Intel Graphics works out of the box on breezy.
[07:42] <PinTo> but they all just blagged my head
[07:43] <theCore> LinuxN00bie: no, like LinuxFromSratch
[07:43] <HiddenWolf> Loevborg, HP will, but no idea if they do already.
[07:43] <sethk> PinTo, try irc, email, web browsing.  they shoudl be much as you are used to in windows
[07:43] <nicholaspaul> Loevborg, there are companies 'talking' about it, but no one yet.
[07:43] <LinuxN00bie> theCore, how hard is it to build LinuxFromScratch?
[07:43] <PinTo> i aint dum i just cant grasp....every guide i look at is thrown in at the deep end?
[07:43] <soundray> selutha, if it's not too late at that point, great.
[07:43] <Loevborg> absenth, so does mine, but acpi-related functkions, suspend-to-disk and to-ram in particular, don't work out of the box
[07:43] <sethk> PinTo, that's why you should start with something easy.
[07:43] <HiddenWolf> absenth, keep linux-k7 installed, that'll depend on the newest kernel and restricted modules for k7
[07:43] <sethk> PinTo, it is the only way to approach a new, complex system
[07:43] <PinTo> cant Sethk i havent got an ethernet adapter
[07:44] <HappyFool> Loevborg: maybe look here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/custom/hplaptops (though not full support)
[07:44] <PinTo> i'm on ADSL
[07:44] <sethk> PinTo, what does that have to do with anything?
[07:44] <MarcN> Loevborg: I'm using Ubuntu on an HP laptop.  nc6000 infact
[07:44] <theCore> LinuxN00bie: it's not hard, but it a little bit long
[07:44] <sethk> PinTo, are you talking to us on the ubuntu system?
[07:44] <Madeye> guys why art manager doesn't cache thumbnails instead of redownloading everytime?
[07:44] <bob123> hi there i have breezy and ATI 9000 vid card, but whevever i run glxgears if i move the gears window my comp freezes, also some screensavers freez my computer
[07:44] <MAPD> pinto portuguese?
[07:44] <sethk> PinTo, if your windows box needs an ethernet card, then your ubuntu box will, also, obviously
[07:44] <PinTo> the only way to connect to the NET--isto re_kernel and patch in driver<-----i'm a noob
[07:44] <LinuxN00bie> theCore, hehe :D sounds like fun
[07:44] <absenth> HiddenWolf: so I'll need to install the restricted-kernel-modules......  any idea what that package name is for the K7 kernel on Breezy?
[07:45] <ciga> hi
[07:45] <MAPD> PinTo es portugues?
[07:45] <navarone> sethk> he may be on usb modem in windows
[07:45] <sethk> PinTo, I haven't had to patch a driver for an ethernet card in at least 10 years
[07:45] <sethk> navarone, he may, yes, but he hasn't said yet.
[07:45] <Loevborg> HappyFool, doesn't look too promising, doesit?
[07:45] <sethk> navarone, it's hard to know  :)
[07:45] <tesoro> HiddenWolf: Dont really understand
[07:45] <tesoro> :)
[07:45] <PinTo> sethk i'm on ADSL
[07:45] <navarone> sethk> give him time...;)
[07:45] <sethk> PinTo, adsl means assymetrical digital subscriber line
[07:45] <PinTo> i'm gonna get an ETHERNET card asap
[07:45] <tesoro> Im in a editor
[07:45] <theCore> LinuxN00bie: it is and you will learn a lot
[07:45] <wouldhide> hi, is it normal that i can't read my ntfs partitions ?
[07:45] <Loevborg> nicholaspaul, the point is, they've been talking for quite some time now
[07:45] <sethk> PinTo, it has nothing whatsoever to do with the question
[07:45] <ciga> I'm looking for a content management engine. Can you recommend a good and secure one for me?
[07:46] <soundray> absenth: dpkg -l linux-restricted-modules-* will list all available ones.
[07:46] <sethk> PinTo, you probably have a DSL modem, which you connect to in some manner or other
[07:46] <HiddenWolf> absenth, sudo apt-get install linux-k7
[07:46] <Loevborg> MarcN, does suspending work without hassle?
[07:46] <pramz> ciga, I heard good things about drupal
[07:46] <sethk> PinTo, that's what we need to know.
[07:46] <nicholaspaul> Loevborg, i know. the point is that they dont offer it yet.
[07:46] <LinuxN00bie> theCore, thx for the info I'm gonna try it out soon :D
[07:46] <HiddenWolf> soundray, advise people to keep the meta-package installed, that'll do the work for them, and ensure it won't break again.
[07:46] <MarcN> Loevborg: It works for me under Breezy and Dapper.  Needed to do some editing of grub.conf
[07:46] <PinTo> i need to learn linux man soon
[07:47] <navarone> besides speed what benefits to upgrading from 386 to 686 kernal?
[07:47] <Loevborg> MarcN, what did you have too change, if I may ask?
[07:47] <LinuxN00bie> LinuxFromScratch are books!
[07:47] <pramz> PinTo, no better way to learn than to use it
[07:47] <LinuxN00bie> wow
[07:47] <HiddenWolf> navarone, none, and speed is not measurable. :)
[07:47] <theCore> LinuxN00bie: i put all the docs I did read to become good with linux on my server http://rage.selfip.org/
[07:47] <Loevborg> for myself, suspending works a few times, but eventually crashes on suspend or resume
[07:47] <navarone> HiddenWolf> I just upgraded...the boot up was fast...but I will see how things progress
[07:47] <Mabus06> Can anyone give me help installing dual boot on my PC?
[07:47] <PinTo> this is gonna cost me big time : )
[07:47] <soundray> HiddenWolf, okay. I tend to advise according to my personal preferences. Not always best, I know.
[07:47] <LinuxN00bie> theCore, wow
[07:47] <Mabus06> With windows?
[07:48] <pramz> PinTo, take a glance at http://www.builderau.com.au/program/work/soa/10_things_you_should_know_about_every_Linux_installation/0,39024650,39219801,00.htm
[07:48] <navarone> Pinto> an ethernet card is like $30
[07:48] <MarcN> Loevborg: just checking to see if I blogged it.  hold on.
[07:48] <Cartesian1984> Mabus06:what do you ned to know?
[07:48] <HiddenWolf> soundray, sure, but without the meta-package, things can get ugly. :)
[07:48] <Cartesian1984> need*
[07:48] <Mozo> i found this problem while running /configure
[07:48] <PinTo> thx pramz
[07:48] <Mozo> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:48] <Mozo> =/
[07:48] <Mozo> can any help me ?
[07:48] <theCore> LinuxN00bie: read all this and you will become quite good in no time
[07:48] <pramz> Mozo, apt-get install build-essential
[07:48] <HappyFool> Mozo: install the build-essential package (look in Synaptic)
[07:48] <Seveas> Mozo, either use a .deb package for what you want or read the documentation...
[07:49] <LinuxN00bie> theCore, THX !!!!
[07:49] <MAPD> help pls
[07:49] <LinuxN00bie> theCore, this is great!
[07:49] <Mabus06> Cartesian1984, everything... I have the cds to install both but after that I don't know
[07:49] <Seveas> Loevborg, :)
[07:49] <theCore> LinuxN00bie: no prob,
[07:49] <ciga> pramz: yes, I think some kind of Debian server is using it. how come zone is in main and drupal does not?
[07:49] <LinuxN00bie> :D
[07:49] <alnr_> i am using ntpd (/etc/init.d/ntp-server start) but when i run ntpdate from another machine to ths one, it says 'no server suitable for synchronization found'. Ive turned of all restriction in ntp.conf. any idea?
[07:49] <LinuxN00bie> ^_^ V
[07:49] <PinTo> i was looking at guide pramz but wasnt sure which one would be best.....thnx man
[07:49] <Mozo> pramz, HappyFool, Seveas: thanks :)
[07:49] <Mabus06> Cartesian1984, #helpme?
[07:50] <DShepherd> theCore: nice link
[07:50] <Cartesian1984> Mabus06: WIndows and Ubuntu, yes?
[07:50] <LinuxN00bie> not juz nice
[07:50] <Mabus06> Yes, Cartesian1984
[07:50] <LinuxN00bie> it's ..GREAT
[07:50] <sethk> alnr_, you haven't set up an ntp server, you've set up an ntp client
[07:50] <theCore> DShepherd: it's my site
[07:50] <sethk> alnr_, setting up an ntp server is complex
[07:50] <pramz> PinTo, thats just an outline of the differences between Windows and Linux for the new user
[07:50] <MarcN> Loevborg: in boot/grub/menu.lst, I have this line (not the resume points to my swap partition) kernel          /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda6 ro nodma resume=/dev/hda5
[07:50] <DShepherd> theCore: nice site :)
[07:50] <ajmitch_> theCore: some stuff there that 99% of people will never need :)
[07:50] <pramz> PinTo, enought to give you a start :)
[07:50] <Loevborg> MarcN, the nodma item is critical?
[07:51] <alnr_> sethk: ah. so its only a client and not a server as well. i thought ntpd would exchange time with others as well
[07:51] <Cartesian1984> Mabus06: you should probably install ubuntu first, it will help you set up separate partitions for the two
[07:51] <MarcN> Loevborg: I don't recall why it is there.   The resume=/dev/hda? is the important bit
[07:51] <theCore> ajmitch_: like ?
[07:51] <ajmitch_> theCore: kernel module programming guide?
[07:51] <Loevborg> marcn, I thought the resume paramter automatically got integrated into the initrd since hoary
[07:51] <MarcN> Loevborg: worked for me under breezy and dapper.
[07:51] <sethk> alnr_, no, ntp as I said is a complex beast
[07:52] <theCore> ajmitch_ : lol , you are right, I never read it either
[07:52] <LinuxN00bie> ajmitch_, although i dun need those, i'm interested in it
[07:52] <MarcN> Loevborg: this laptop started with a warty install.   Been dist-upgrade'd since then.
[07:52] <Cartesian1984> Mabus06: are you on the machine that you want to install them on, or is it another?
[07:53] <Loevborg> MarcN, ah that might be it
[07:53] <Loevborg> MarcN, dpkg-reconfigure kernel-`uname -r` might have cured that too
[07:53] <MarcN> Loevborg: and I'm not using the ubuntu grub.  This is a 3x or 4x bootable machine.  Using a grub  provided by a debian on other partitions.
[07:53] <Loevborg> ah okay
[07:54] <Loevborg> MarcN, it doesn't crash after a number of resume cycles?
[07:54] <MarcN> Loevborg: my grub is not in /boot/ but /debian/rootfs/boot/...
[07:54] <Cartesian1984> Mabus06: because usually default windows installations partition the whole drive as NTFS, which only windows can write to, and its almost impossible to shrink
[07:55] <MarcN> Loevborg: I don't use suspend a whole lot.  At work I have a docking station with an external monitor.  But use the laptop at home too.  I'd have to restart X to pick up/remove the dual  head
[07:55] <devint> Can anybody tell me exactly how I could get xchat to run a script at login?
[07:55] <MarcN> Loevborg: so I usually shutdown when moving between locations.
[07:55] <Madeye> why apt-get upgrade require upgrading 386 when I have 686 ?
[07:55] <Loevborg> MarcN, ah I see. thanks!
[07:55] <Cartesian1984> Mabus06: you'll probably have to backup everything and wipe the HD, then install them
[07:56] <Derreck> Does anyone know what the package name is of the ubuntuized kernel sources for breezy?
[07:56] <Endlesszero> Does Ubuntu support airport cards?
[07:56] <soundray> Derreck, linux-source-2.6.12
[07:56] <mjr> Endlesszero, airport yes, airport extreme no (no specs)
[07:56] <tba|outlawz> hi where i found german ubuntu irc chat??
[07:56] <soundray> Endlesszero, only older ones, not Airport Extreme
[07:56] <NoUse> !de
[07:56] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[07:57] <Derreck> soundray, Thank you very much.
[07:57] <Endlesszero> that sux
[07:57] <tba|outlawz> im a german ubunt user and i ghave a problem ^^
[07:57] <Endlesszero> so I used oldschool airport for imac G3's, it'd work
[07:57] <Loevborg> tba|outlawz, you might be better off dropping the silly clan prefix
[07:57] <devint> what's a good gnome based ftp client?
[07:57] <sorush20> what is the best printing server software out there?
[07:57] <Moco> How do you burn .isos from the bash shell in Ubuntu?
[07:58] <soundray> sorush20, cups
[07:58] <Moco> .iso
[07:58] <Loevborg> maco, cdrecord
[07:58] <Moco> thanks
[07:58] <devint> Can anybody tell me what a good ftp client is?
[07:58] <Moco> I like putty
[07:58] <Endlesszero> I wonder if Ubuntu is going to support Airport Extreme any time soon?
[07:58] <_native_> devint; wget
[07:58] <Loevborg> devint, what you want to do?
[07:58] <gravis> hi ppl
[07:58] <soundray> devint, on the console, ncftp
[07:58] <Moco> There is also a Firefox extension called FireFTP
[07:58] <devint> there's no non-console based ones?
[07:58] <Loevborg> devint, some people like gftp
[07:59] <devint> i just want to upload and such
[07:59] <devint> gftp?
[07:59] <devint> ok
[07:59] <devint> that's GTK based then?
[07:59] <Mabus06> how should the drives be partitioned, Cartesian1984? I am already on the computer I want to install on. It has ubuntu installed on a separate partition than /home
[07:59] <Moco> Yes
[07:59] <robotgeek> Endlesszero: work is on the way, long way to go still
[07:59] <slayer> hoi
[07:59] <Moco> It is gtk based
[07:59] <navarone> devint> gftp-ftk
[07:59] <navarone> gtk rather
[07:59] <tba|outlawz> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[08:00] <devint> ok
[08:00] <devint> thanks all
[08:00] <Endlesszero> so we're talking like a year or so?
[08:00] <navarone> Airport extreme?
[08:00] <Endlesszero> yah
[08:00] <`saiko> can anyone help?
[08:00] <robotgeek> Endlesszero: hmm, maybe, maybe not
[08:00] <`saiko> i recently upgraded to breezy and have the following problem in screen session: "failed to write /ar/run/utemp: no such process"
[08:00] <navarone> is that like a sim?
[08:01] <Cartesian1984> Mabus06: How large is the drive?
[08:01] <temporarysircnic> heya
[08:01] <temporarysircnic> sdakota here...
[08:01] <Endlesszero> does anyone know if Rock Linux supports Airport extreme?
[08:01] <temporarysircnic> i can't take my nick as it says it's in use >.<
[08:01] <temporarysircnic> when i reboot my system, it says its "Hoary Hedgehog"
[08:01] <robotgeek> Endlesszero: no linux supports Arport Extreme yet
[08:01] <EvilDin> hay need one simple answer, how can i search in all subdirs for file which have some specific words in it?
[08:01] <temporarysircnic> but when I do apt-get dist-upgrade it says there are no upgrades, the same with just upgrade
[08:01] <lud> #mexico
[08:02] <Endlesszero> man...direct connection...I hate it
[08:02] <robotgeek> EvilDin: ls -alR | grep <searchstring>
[08:02] <Endlesszero> I'll have to buy a 50' cat5 cable
[08:02] <Loevborg> EvilDin, find | grep -i word_your_looking_for
[08:02] <Loevborg> EvilDin, that's the easiest
[08:02] <EvilDin> tnx
[08:02] <soundray> EvilDin, find / -print0 | xargs -0 grep searchstring
[08:02] <mjr> Endlesszero, or a supported wlan adapter
[08:02] <EvilDin> ok
[08:02] <soundray> EvilDin, takes a long time, though.
[08:02] <mbass> EvilDin, you want something like "find . -type f | xargs grep 'someword'" to find 'someword' in all the files below directory '.'
[08:02] <temporarysircnic> evildin: that must be enough answers ;-D
[08:03] <Loevborg> EvilDin, mine looks for the word in filenames, worry
[08:03] <robotgeek> EvilDin: or find ./ -name <string>
[08:03] <EvilDin> please what do i have to write that i will get all files which contains name din, and i have to look in one big directory with subdirs
[08:03] <EvilDin> just write one command
[08:03] <EvilDin> :D
[08:03] <temporarysircnic> guys, my ubuntu says it's still hoary, but dist-upgrade says it has nothing to upgrade. how to upgrade to breezy?
[08:03] <nickrud> EvilDin, you can use the Search for files on the Places menu ....
[08:03] <Loevborg> EvilDin, you'll need to think a bit for youself, too I'm afraid
[08:04] <robotgeek> :)
[08:04] <Endlesszero> would a airport express base station work?
[08:04] <smo> Isn't this what rgrep is designed to do?
[08:04] <slicslak> anyone know of a gui frontend for pppoe (adsl)?
[08:04] <trinidad> i have an external usb drive which automounts on connection, however, when i run konqueror i do not have the option to delete the files on the drive, nor can i make directories on the drive unless i run sudo konqueror
[08:04] <robotgeek> Endlesszero: the base station shud work, it has a orinoco card
[08:04] <soundray> Loevborg, thanks, I wasn't gonna say it...
[08:04] <temporarysircnic> guys, my ubuntu says it's still hoary, but dist-upgrade says it has nothing to upgrade. how to upgrade to breezy?
[08:04] <devint> Is there a gtk version of a PuTTY like program?
[08:04] <trinidad> is there an easy way to fix this
[08:04] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell temporarysircnic about breezy
[08:04] <trinidad> without having to run sudo konqueror every time?
[08:04] <zerokarmaleft> strange things happening in X...every once in a while my monitor will flash as if it's changing resolutions, and keep doing it several times.  sometimes it gets stuck on a weird setting and then i have to actually change resolutions and switch back to get things normal again.  on breezy with a geforce 4 ti 4200 / nvidia 1.7667 drivers
[08:04] <HappyFool> devint: putty is available for ubuntu
[08:04] <Endlesszero> thanx
[08:04] <temporarysircnic> robotgeek: Thanks a lot!
[08:05] <mbass> EvilDin, my previous entry will work, but also as suggested you can use "search for files..." in the places menu, but you need to use "Select more options" to add text content filters...
[08:05] <robotgeek> devint: you want a gui console :)
[08:05] <devint> haha
[08:05] <devint> i suppose so
[08:05] <devint> I want a GUI EVERYTHING
[08:05] <trinidad> i have an external usb drive which automounts on connection, however, when i run konqueror i do not have the option to delete the files on the drive, nor can i make directories on the drive unless i run sudo konqueror?!?!
[08:05] <`saiko> lol
[08:05] <devint> is that so hard to ask?
[08:07] <Seven> hi there
[08:07] <DShepherd> devint: thats not so hard to ask, why are you using linux again?
[08:07] <robotgeek> devint: what exactly did u mean by a gtk putty?
[08:07] <Seven> anyone has any idea how can i change the background color on my desktop?
[08:07] <devint> robotgeek: not so ugly is what i mean
[08:07] <nicholaspaul> Seven are you using Gnome?
[08:07] <soundray> Seven, have you tried right-click and the last menu option?
[08:07] <devint> DShepherd: Because I got tired of Windows
[08:07] <robotgeek> Seven: System -> Preferences -> Desktop Background
[08:08] <Seven> nicholaspaul, yes
[08:08] <sorush20> what website system does sourceforge use?
[08:08] <devint> DShepherd: And, believe it or not, programming for GNOME using Ajuta and Glade is a breeze, and I like it.
[08:08] <Seven> soundray it's not the image its the color itself
[08:08] <DShepherd> Seven I have thta same problem too
[08:08] <robotgeek> Seven: then look at System -> Prefs -> Theme
[08:09] <Seven> robotgeek, you see i have a silvered desktop image and splash screen but the background is brown thats it :P
[08:09] <DShepherd> Seven: yup... my too
[08:09] <workbean> I've been debugging the wrong thing with the breezy repositories :-) I've just installed breezy at home and "apt-get update" works perfectly. So I guess it's the filtering proxy server that's been causing the problem all this while. Now to get my system administrators to remove the filters from my account on the proxy server.
[08:09] <DShepherd> Seven: yup... mine too
[08:09] <soundray> Seven, look down the bottom of the Change... dialog.
[08:09] <Seven> soundray, its silvered...
[08:10] <Seven> soundray, its exactly the color i want but neither the splash screen nor the background on my desktop get it
[08:11] <absenth> Seven: the splash screen background color is set in the GDM login manager, under standard greeter.
[08:11] <graabein> hi, i just installed a new sata-harddrive... how do i mount and format it? it does not appear in gparted
[08:11] <absenth> seven: assuming that's what you mean by splash screen.  let me fire up ubuntu in vmware and confirm it's where I remember it.
[08:11] <soundray> sorush20, I think it's proprietary software that you can buy from VA Software.
[08:12] <Seven> absenth, i think i get it, didn't check the GTK+ greeter option
[08:12] <absenth> seven: and you're using Gnome? as your Desktop manager?
[08:13] <Seven> absenth, yes
[08:13] <workbean> and VMWare player (which I used to install Breezy) works without any problems what so ever  on Hoary
[08:13] <absenth> the background color is set by right clicking the desktop, and choosing "change background"
[08:13] <soundray> graabein, your SATA chipset needs to be supported.
[08:14] <Seven> absenth, i know and it's the color i want it to be
[08:14] <graabein> soundray, how do i go about that?
[08:14] <absenth> seven: ok :)  anything else out of bounds color wise?  (I hate the ubuntu brown :)
[08:14] <Moco> Me too.
[08:14] <Seven> absenth, and by the way i actually meant the splashsceen i get when i log in, not the login manager
[08:14] <soundray> graabein, is it an onboard SATA interface or a PCI card?
[08:15] <Seven> absenth, nope, that's it :) i also hate brown :P
[08:15] <Seven> absenth, thanks :)
[08:15] <graabein> soundray, there are sata plugs on the motherboard
[08:15] <zerokarmaleft> hmm i seem to be having the same problem regardless of whether or not i'm in X
[08:15] <absenth> seven: did you change the splash image as well as the background?  or just the background
[08:16] <graabein> soundray, i have two ide disks and now i am installing my first sata disk
[08:16] <soundray> graabein, if you Google for your motherboard name, you should be able to find out the chipset name.
[08:16] <zerokarmaleft> pvanhoof: codegen rocks, that is all
[08:16] <Seven> absenth, i changed the splash image, dunno if i can change the background easily
[08:16] <nubs0r> Hey does anyone know where i can get the best sources.list file for Ubuntu
[08:16] <soundray> graabein, it may also show when you boot.
[08:16] <nubs0r> the default one si giving me errors upon update
[08:17] <pvanhoof> zerokarmaleft, no problem :)
[08:17] <Ryan_Singer> hello, I was wondering if someone could pm me and explain the structure of ubuntu as a project.
[08:17] <graabein> soundray, it says intel 865pe + ich5 chipset based on the box
[08:17] <Seven> nubs0r, i believe the default sources are having some problems today
[08:17] <cocox> hi guys im trying to format mi floppy disk, i already umount my /media/floppy0, after that i use de command mkfs.ext3 /dev/fd0 and that gives my this error... can anybody plz help me? i already search in the forums but i cant find nothing similar :(
[08:17] <cocox> root@techi:/mnt # mkfs.ext3 /dev/fd0
[08:17] <cocox> mke2fs 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
[08:17] <cocox> /dev/fd0: Not enough space to build proposed filesystem mientras se ajustaba el sper bloque
[08:17] <absenth> Seven: yeah the background is "in theory" set in the gdm greeter as well, but I've never tried.  I have changed the graphical greeter, the splash image and background, and all of the desktop stuff.
[08:17] <pvanhoof> zerokarmaleft, and feel free to help if you want to make it even beteter ;)
[08:18] <zerokarmaleft> pvanhoof: sure thing
[08:18] <zerokarmaleft> sigh... i hate hardware
[08:18] <Seven> absenth, gonna log out and give a try to my changes, i'll be right back ;)
[08:18] <absenth> seven, you'll have to reboot.
[08:18] <absenth> seven to get GDM to reconfigure itself.
[08:18] <diubidone> hey all how do i get totem to play wmv files?
[08:18] <Seven> absenth, yes i meant that lol
[08:18] <cocox> hi guys im trying to format mi floppy disk, i already umount my /media/floppy0, after that i use de command mkfs.ext3 /dev/fd0 and that gives my this error... can anybody plz help me? i already search in the forums but i cant find nothing similar :(
[08:19] <cocox> root@techi:/mnt # mkfs.ext3 /dev/fd0
[08:19] <cocox> mke2fs 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
[08:19] <cocox> /dev/fd0: Not enough space to build proposed filesystem mientras se ajustaba el sper bloque
[08:19] <absenth> seven see ya in a bit.
[08:19] <Seven> absenth see ya
[08:19] <diubidone> how come totem doen't play wmv files?
[08:19] <Moco> How do you change splash screens? I thought there was supposed to be something for that in preferences or administration but there isn't..
[08:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell diubidone about w32codecs
[08:20] <Moco> Don't WMVs have proprietary DRM?
[08:20] <NoUse> Moco some do
[08:20] <cocox> hi guys im trying to format mi floppy disk, i already umount my /media/floppy0, after that i use de command mkfs.ext3 /dev/fd0 and that gives my this error... can anybody plz help me? i already search in the forums but i cant find nothing similar :(
[08:20] <cocox> root@techi:/mnt # mkfs.ext3 /dev/fd0
[08:20] <cocox> mke2fs 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)
[08:20] <cocox> /dev/fd0: Not enough space to build proposed filesystem mientras se ajustaba el sper bloque
[08:20] <navarone> Moco> i have splash screen entry in System/ Preferences
[08:21] <Moco> hmm, not there on mine.. Are you using Breezy Bager?
[08:22] <MAPD> help pls!
[08:22] <Moco> With what?
[08:22] <jesseman_> rofl
[08:22] <MAPD> since its possible
[08:22] <MAPD> to get the password of the root user or other
[08:22] <Seven> absenth, got it :)
[08:22] <jorgg> is there a way to change the spellcheck language in gaim? or is it only possible to use engligh spellcheck?
[08:22] <NoUse> !tell MAPD about root
[08:22] <MAPD> how can we protect to be hacked?
[08:22] <graabein> how do i look at my disks? fstab? i just installed a sata drive and it does not appear in gparted
[08:22] <soundray> graabein, have you got the libata module loaded?
[08:22] <nubs0r> Seven, what do you recommend i do?
[08:22] <MAPD> NoUse yes i know
[08:23] <MAPD> but sudo password
[08:23] <nubs0r> Seven, i really need to update my system, i just did a fresh install
[08:23] <cocox> graabein use fdisk -l
[08:23] <MAPD> can get recovered with a live cd
[08:23] <graabein> soundray, how do i check modules again
[08:23] <cocox> graabein: use fdisk -l
[08:23] <soundray> graabein, lsmod | grep libata
[08:23] <Seven> nubs0r, if you try a bit with the default sources you'll get them to update
[08:23] <jesseman_> MAPD: anyone who has physical access to the computer potentially can hack it
[08:23] <NoUse> MAPD if you get physical access to any box, its as good as hacked, no matter what OS
[08:23] <MAPD> by the way
[08:23] <Seven> nubsor, you can always try going to the ubuntu site i dunno if there are more sources there
[08:24] <MAPD> is there a prog to get windows passwords
[08:24] <MAPD> .P
[08:24] <MAPD> ?
[08:24] <MAPD> fast
[08:24] <Moco> Knoppix STD and Auditor have some interesting tools for that..
[08:24] <Moco> djohn?
[08:24] <cocox> john the ripper
[08:24] <MAPD> but i wanted
[08:24] <_jason> NoUse, even with an encrypted file system?
[08:24] <cocox> ya
[08:24] <jesseman_> _jason: yes
[08:24] <MAPD> to be on my machine and get it from other pcs
[08:24] <tuxxxblade> NoUse, sry for that
[08:24] <Moco> samdump will get you the hash from the registryy
[08:24] <MAPD> in the same network
[08:24] <graabein> the sata disk does not appear with fdisk -l and lsmod | grep libata gives me nothing
[08:24] <tuxxxblade> NoUse, how do i set my totem to use edf?
[08:24] <MAPD> Moco may i msg you?
[08:24] <Seven> absenth, all i did was change the GTK+ background color and the desktop background color with no wallpaper to the color i wanted and wham! it works! :)
[08:25] <_jason> let's go to #ubuntu-offtopic, I'm interested in how
[08:25] <_jason> jesseman_, ^
[08:25] <absenth> Seven, nice.
[08:25] <Seven> absenth, thanks a bunch
[08:25] <Moco> Uh, there is some problem with my pawword, and it says I can't PM people
[08:25] <graabein> hmmmm maybe ill have my friend take a look at it tomorrow. he knows electronics and hardware.......
[08:25] <MAPD> Moco pls?
[08:25] <absenth> Seven, I found by doing a "server" install, followed by apt-get install xubuntu-desktop I avoid all the brown as well.  although I don't get gnome, I get xfce4
[08:25] <Moco> You can talk here
[08:26] <MAPD> ok
[08:26] <NoUse> tuxxxblade what is edf?
[08:26] <soundray> graabein, http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html indicates that your board is supported.
[08:26] <Moco> My password doesn't work
[08:26] <MAPD> i needed a software to get the passwords thru the network
[08:26] <MAPD> :p
[08:26] <MAPD> windows
[08:26] <MAPD> and linux
[08:26] <MAPD> :P
[08:26] <Seven> absenth, by the way, how much better (and why) is xfce4 from gnome?
[08:26] <MAPD> pls Moco :P
[08:26] <Moco> I don't know how to do that.. Check out the Knoppix-STD forums. They are pretty knowledgeable about that
[08:26] <Moco> Hydra can crack network passwords thoug
[08:27] <Moco> though
[08:27] <occy> Hey gang...
[08:27] <graabein> soundray, thanks! thats good to know... i think checked hardware compability before i purchased the mobo but i was not sure
[08:27] <absenth> Seven: I don't know that I'd say it's better, it's just different.  on my laptop xfce is faster.  I'm pretty sure xfce has a smaller memory and disk footprint.
[08:27] <occy> I have a friend I installled Ubuntu on.  She forgot her password.  How can I recover it?
[08:27] <occy> she only has the one user on the system.
[08:27] <MAPD> i wish
[08:27] <MAPD> their forum
[08:27] <MAPD> got probs
[08:27] <Seven> absenth, yeah probably... i guess i wouldn't notice it on my desktop though
[08:28] <absenth> seven, with ubuntu, you could add xfce to your system, just apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, and then from the gdm login, click sessions, XFCE.
[08:28] <tuxxxblade> i dunno
[08:28] <Moco> got to forum.s-t-d.org
[08:28] <tuxxxblade> NoUse, sry got it wrong
[08:28] <tuxxxblade> NoUse, i mean the sound sys/output method
[08:28] <MAPD> Moco whats hydra?
[08:28] <tuxxxblade> NoUse, i also got a really terrible sound quality :(
[08:28] <Seven> absenth, i would apt-get it if the sources weren't so damn troubled today :P
[08:29] <Moco> http://thc.org/thc-hydra/
[08:29] <absenth> Seven, sources are slow today eh....  one of my systems is using something other then the default mirror.  I can't remember which one though.
[08:29] <Moco> A network logon cracker
[08:30] <MAPD> ok
[08:30] <graabein> what is good practice for mounting points for a storage disk (movies, music for linux only)? i am a newbie to the filesystem...
[08:31] <sdakota> robotgeek: Sdakota here again (temporarysircnic)
[08:31] <sdakota> robotgeek: The system is updating. 450 packages... =)
[08:31] <Seven> absenth, yeah i gotta get my university's sources as well
[08:31] <graabein> also should i partition it? it is 200gb. i already have seperate partitions for / and /home
[08:31] <NoUse> tuxxxblade what kind of sound card do you have?
[08:31] <MAPD> Moco supposed to be fast
[08:31] <MAPD> or
[08:31] <MAPD> ?
[08:31] <sdakota> I gtg... I need to repair a computer and have only one monitor >.<
[08:31] <sdakota> Bye
[08:32] <jorgg> is there others too experiencing problemts with totem firefox plugin?
[08:32] <Moco> What's supposed to be fast?
[08:32] <GBPETE> Good evening
[08:32] <blastradius> hi gbpete
[08:32] <blastradius> where in gb
[08:33] <PinTo> Man i wish i could hlp
[08:33] <soundray> graabein, only partition if it makes backing up easier.
[08:33] <GBPETE> Would someone have any idea why a usb mass storage device has suddenly become read only since upgrading to Breezy?
[08:33] <Moco> MAOD?
[08:33] <Moco> MAPD?
[08:33] <graabein> soundray, i do not intend to use it as backup... so i guess one primary partition ext3 then?
[08:34] <tk401> hello
[08:34] <Moco> see ya
[08:34] <zuz> Hello
[08:34] <GBPETE> oh an in london
[08:34] <tk401> does anyone know how to properly install firefox from mozilla.org?
[08:34] <MAPD> brrr
[08:34] <soundray> graabein, I mean if you want to back up the content of the media disk.
[08:35] <soundray> graabein, ext3 is more than capable of managing 200GB.
[08:35] <NoUse> tk401 no 'proper' way, its best to wait for the deb packages when 1.5 comes out
[08:35] <hramrach> How the hell do I cancel a print job in Ubuntu?
[08:35] <soundray> graabein, on spec, you could do a modprobe sata_sil
[08:35] <graabein> soundray, ok... but how about access path? is that a dir i create in /media pointing to the /dev/x dir?
[08:35] <absenth> WooT!  the "fbi
[08:36] <absenth> ' just sent me a copy of Sober.Y :)
[08:36] <NoUse> hramrach open the print dialog, right click on the job and click cancel
[08:36] <absenth> sorry, I know that was off topic......
[08:36] <graabein> soundray, should i type in modprobe sata_sil in a terminal window?
[08:36] <soundray> graabein, I think /media is intended for changeable media.
[08:36] <tk401> NoUse: well, i'm trying to install 1.0.7 because the ubuntu is running 100% cpu usage
[08:36] <hramrach> nothing happens
[08:36] <soundray> graabein, yes.
[08:36] <hramrach> lprm wants a password
[08:36] <NoUse> tk401 1.0.7 is the version installed by ubuntu
[08:36] <soundray> soundray, I store my media files under /var/lib/video.00, but only because vdr suggests it.
[08:36] <occy> can't seem to find anything in ubotu about reseting password
[08:37] <occy> only for root
[08:37] <soundray> graabein, sorry, talking to myself there.
[08:37] <absenth> occy: sudo passwd root        new password:    new password:
[08:37] <tk401> NoUse, the mozilla.org version is faster and also doesn't have the cpu usage bug, that's why i wanted it...
[08:37] <NoUse> occy resetting your user password? did you lose it?
[08:37] <agtnz> tk401: I use 1.5 RC3 - details on how to install here > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:37] <occy> NoUse, not me, but a friend did on her laptop.
[08:37] <occy> heh
[08:37] <tk401> agtnz, did you remove the old version?
[08:37] <hramrach> lprm running as root removes the job, but lprm running in suid root script wants a password as well
[08:37] <occy> NoUse, so I need to reset the initial users password somehow
[08:37] <agtnz> nope just follow those instructions
[08:37] <soundray> graabein, /opt is a location intended for local setup purposes
[08:38] <agtnz> tk401 ^^
[08:38] <tk401> oh really, ok cool!
[08:38] <absenth> occy, or boot into single user mode, which shouldn't request a password, and passwd root.
[08:38] <NoUse> occy https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LostPassword
[08:38] <hramrach> occy: as root you can change passwords of other users
[08:38] <graabein> soundray, okay great... modprobe gave me errors...
[08:38] <tk401> agtnz, what if you want to install the 1.0.7 version? and also, is 1.5 stable?
[08:38] <occy> NoUse, k
[08:38] <graabein> soundray, error inserting scsi_mod/libata/sata_sil (*.ko): operation not permitted
[08:39] <spudse> hello I have a normal ubuntu install and I have a ubuntu server install. But now I would like to have a directory on my server install that I can use on my normal install, what do I need ?
[08:39] <absenth> NoUse: that's a much better reference.
[08:39] <soundray> graabein, you need to prepend sudo
[08:39] <nxv__> is there a graphical display of hard disk usage? how much system (installed programms consume) and how much user uses?
[08:39] <hramrach> ok, I know how to remove a print job. Just su to root, and run lprm. But how does one remove a print job with pointing and clicking?
[08:39] <occy> NoUse, w00p
[08:39] <graabein> soundray, ok, no output from the command...
[08:39] <occy> NoUse, thanks bunches
[08:39] <occy> ;)
[08:39] <agtnz> tk401: I've found 1.5 very stable. Only problem is not all extensions are updated, but the good ones are :P I suppose you could install any version in the same way as the link tells you - haven't tried though.
[08:40] <occy> NoUse, who says you are of nouse??? ;)
[08:40] <graabein> soundray, does that mean something is not running?
[08:40] <tk401> agtnz, thank you! 1.0.7 comes with an installer, that's why i was asking
[08:40] <agtnz> tk401: good luck
[08:41] <jandusion> how do i install java pluggin?
[08:41] <tesoro> During the installation of ubuntu, I am not able to choose any root password? But if I wanna login as root, type su in termianl. what is the password? :o
[08:41] <NoUse> !tell jandusion about java
[08:41] <soundray> graabein, check dmesg | tail for errors or success stories...
[08:41] <nxv__> terso sudo su
[08:41] <trappist> !tell tesoro about root
[08:41] <nxv__> tesoro, sudo su should do what u want
[08:42] <tesoro> sweet
[08:42] <hramrach> or sudo bash :)
[08:42] <alex___> hey I wanna know how can I configure the CUPS, because when I am configuring I cant do nothing because in the top of the configuration there is a message wich says I dont have permision of administrator, How can I have administrator acces
[08:42] <LinuxN00bie> hello
[08:42] <Mozo> !tell mozo about root
[08:42] <graabein> soundray, cool! it says libata version 1.11 loaded
[08:42] <devint> uhhhh
[08:42] <devint> can somebody else with evolution test this for me:
[08:42] <NoUse> alex___ the gnome print config app is a frontend for CUPS, you can use that
[08:42] <devint> open evolution and click "calendars" at the bottom
[08:42] <LinuxN00bie> when i tried to run synaptic or the add/remove programs, i got segfault
[08:42] <devint> does it die?
[08:42] <tk401> jandusion: to install java, download this program and follow instructions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[08:42] <LinuxN00bie> even after i restarted
[08:42] <soundray> graabein, don't get your hopes up yet. Anything new on fdisk -l?
[08:42] <nubs0r> ANYOEN ELSE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH APT?
[08:42] <LinuxN00bie> i still couldn't run synaptic
[08:43] <NoUse> LinuxN00bie have you run memtest86?
[08:43] <LinuxN00bie> yeap and it freezes there
[08:43] <hramrach> alex___: if you are lucky you will get something useful out of that gnome fromtend :S
[08:43] <graabein> soundray, nope, just my two ide disks
[08:43] <alex___> NoUse: oh then is the same than cups?
[08:43] <NoUse> LinuxN00bie memtest freezes?
[08:43] <nubs0r> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:43] <nubs0r> wtf?
[08:43] <LinuxN00bie> memtest86 freezes
[08:43] <LinuxN00bie> yeap
[08:43] <NoUse> alex___ yes
[08:43] <NoUse> LinuxN00bie you have a hardware problem
[08:43] <NoUse> LinuxN00bie probably bad memory
[08:43] <alex___> thanks
[08:43] <tk401> bye everyone!
[08:44] <LinuxN00bie> so i need to change my ram cards?
[08:44] <hramrach> NoUse: except I can never get anthing to work using the gnome cups frontend :/