[23:07] <Rehan> Hi guys. I have a hard drive with two partitions. Win7 is on one NTFS partition. The other partition is unformatted and I want to install Ubuntu on it. I would like to use the Win7 bootloader even after installing Ubuntu. Should I install the Ubuntu bootloader onto the Ubuntu partition instead of on /dev/sda? Thank you.
[23:07] <Cem> thanks for help anyway ^^^
[23:07] <smw> Cem, then I can't help you
[23:07] <Cem> c ya
[23:07] <taru> ahh..thank you
[23:07] <taru> <3
[23:07] <smw> Cem, maybe you want to run memcheck?
[23:07] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Why do you want to use the Windows bootloader?
[23:07] <royale1223> Rehan: try install inside windows option
[23:08] <Rehan> Jordan_U: it seems easier and looks neater IMO
[23:08] <royale1223> Rehan: ie. open the livecd from inside win7
[23:08] <negev> Jordan_U: i think so, all i did was create the partition though, haven't set the flag
[23:08] <jarmour> djstarr you could run the talkgadget in lynx
[23:08] <jarmour> sudo apt-get install lynx
[23:08] <Jordan_U> Rehan: In practice it's harder and less reliable.
[23:08] <Rehan> royale1223: Isn't there a performance deficit if I install thru windows? I already created a partition for where ubuntu will go when I was setting up win7
[23:09] <jarmour> then open this
[23:09] <jarmour> https://talkgadget.google.com/talkgadget/popout
[23:09] <negev> Jordan_U: im apt-get upgrading from the livedvd to see if a newer version fixes it
[23:09] <lasha> hey guys I got a problem with flash player i think, in firefox 4.0 cpu usage goes up to 80% and the video playback also flickers, do I need to reinstall flash or update or anything?
[23:09] <royale1223> Rehan: is there? i dont think so. where did you hear this?
[23:09] <Jordan_U> Rehan: That is, trying to use the Windows bootloader as the primary bootloader instead of grub will make your life much more difficult.
[23:09] <pdominey> what do you think would be the impact of 100% utilization of swap space would be ?
[23:10] <oneliner> having installed python 3.2 how do i make it the "default" python version to use by programs?
[23:10] <royale1223> Jordan_U: i need help with resetting my panel.
[23:11] <tjiggi_fo> pdominey, it will result in thrashing
[23:11] <smw> !resetpanel | royale1223
[23:12] <majidkhan> ubottu: thanks
[23:12] <Rehan> royale1223: When you run wubi installer it says if you use the install inside windows option there's a drop in disk performance and no ability to hibernate.
[23:13] <mkanyicy> pdominey, your computer will be toooo slow
[23:13] <royale1223> smw: tried that but this is what i get. http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1591/screenshot2rw.png. not the orginal panels
[23:13] <Rehan> Jordan_U: thanks for answering. So Grub2 is much more reliable than Win7's bootloader? Why is that? Thanks!
[23:13] <riddlebox> what is the apt command to reinstall an app?
[23:13] <royale1223> Rehan: okay. didnt know that.
[23:13] <mkanyicy> --reinstall
[23:13] <smw> royale1223,  don't do gui stuff :-P. Sorry.
[23:14] <justin_> Hey, I have ubuntu 10.10, my touchpad seems to shake when I leave my finger on it, or move it slowly. It seems that palmcheck, or something similar, would help this. Any suggestions?
[23:14] <royale1223> smw: :D
[23:14] <Auriga> Rehan, There is also a 30GB limit the last time I saw it...
[23:14] <genii-around> oneliner: sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/python python /path/to/python3/executable/python-binary-name 1 && sudo update-alternatives --config python
[23:14] <Rehan> Auriga: yeah. i am only installing into a 10gb partition though
[23:14] <pdominey> tjiggi_fo: I'm not sure you'll see thrashing resulting from 100 swap use,
[23:14] <royale1223> smw: any idea why i'm getting this?
[23:14] <pdominey> mkanyicy: I think that's exactly what one would see
[23:14] <negev> Jordan_U: ok flag is set, now what?  try installing to the mbr again?
[23:15]  * jarmour loves everyone of you nerdy linux geeks
[23:15] <tjiggi_fo> pdominey, if you say so
[23:15] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Installing grub to a partition is unreliable because there is no embedding area available, while there are reliable alternatives that will still allow you to load grub from the windows bootloader they require a lot of manual setup.
[23:15] <smw> royale1223, what is wrong with it?
[23:15] <Jordan_U> negev: Yes,.
[23:15] <Auriga> Rehan, This is your first time with Linux?
[23:15] <royale1223> smw: i dont like it.
[23:15] <Rehan> Auriga: yep
[23:15] <smw> royale1223, it is just a different theme... right?
[23:15] <royale1223> smw: dowsnt look neat like the default panel
[23:16]  * dcc i am sorry to bother you guys but is anyone from china in here, need little bit of help please
[23:16] <Auriga> Rehan, You will regret only giving it 10GB, once installed you will like it.
[23:16] <Jordan_U> !cn | dcc
[23:16] <pdominey> mkanyicy: I think it would be really slow for user space applications - dont' know the system would actually crash
[23:16] <royale1223> smw: nope its like a diffrence in panel conf
[23:16] <pdominey> - just trying to get peoples thoughts
[23:17] <Rehan> Auriga: I think I'm going to be using Win7 primarily but I want Ubuntu just to explore in right now
[23:17] <smw> royale1223, go to system -> preferences -> appearance
[23:17] <smw> royale1223, what is the theme set to?
[23:17] <Auriga> Rehan, Sure for now, that is a smart move, what I mean is the more you use it the more you will like it.
[23:17] <Rehan> Auriga: if i'm going to keep all of my media (movies,pics,music) on my win7 ntfs partition, wouldn't 10GB be enough?
[23:17] <royale1223> ambiance + faenza icon pack
[23:18] <Rehan> Auriga: oh ok
[23:18] <piero> Hi! I'm testing the random efficiency with a script that sums n randomized vectors (angle and modules), which I posted here: http://pastebin.com/viXm8b9P . The problem is and getting too large modules. Is pseudo-random so bad or is there an error in my test?
[23:18] <smw> royale1223, not ubuntu-mono-dark icons?
[23:18] <Auriga> Rehan, Yeah it should be, but programs, updates etc. will eat away at 10GB sooner than you think I'm sure.
[23:19] <royale1223> smw: faenza dark actually
[23:19] <smw> royale1223, do you have ubuntu-mono-dark?
[23:19] <lasha> hey guys I got a problem with flash player i think, in firefox 4.0 cpu usage goes up to 80% and the video playback also flickers, do I need to reinstall flash or update or anything?
[23:19] <smw> royale1223, can you try it?
[23:19] <Auriga> Rehan, I started out like you, Wubi install & all of that, after a while I installed beside Windows, slowly over time I have increased the alotted disk space Linux has.
[23:19] <royale1223> smw: look at the screenshot again please.
[23:20] <Abhish> lasha, if you have Google Toolbar installed that will slow FF4 donw terribly.
[23:20] <lasha> Abhish I dont have google toolbar :s
[23:20] <Rehan> Auriga: I see. Was WUBI install your first intro to linux?
[23:20] <royale1223> Auriga: me too
[23:21] <smw> royale1223, as I said, I don't do gui. You can move your entire gnome config and start over if you want. However, many gnome programs may lose their config
[23:21] <alex86> question to python lovers, if i want to install python I need to install IDE for python as well?
[23:21] <Auriga> Rehan, No I installed on a laptop first.
[23:21] <gordonjcp> alex86: no
[23:21] <gordonjcp> alex86: you can use any editor you like
[23:21] <oneliner> genii-around: thats one sleek command, thanks
[23:21] <royale1223> Auriga: started with a 10g partition. now its about 400gb
[23:21] <negev> Jordan_U: working now, thanks for all your help
[23:21] <gordonjcp> alex86: come to that, you can use any editor you *don't* like if you feel masochistic
[23:21] <Bilz> hello
[23:21] <genii-around> oneliner: You're welcome
[23:21] <Jordan_U> negev: You're welcome.
[23:21] <Auriga> Rehan, I wanted to make games work under wine though, which the laptop would not do, so i put it on the Desktop.
[23:21] <royale1223> smw: how do i do that?
[23:22] <Bilz> i seem to have made gimp full screen so it covers the bottom bar and the top bar. how do i fix it!
[23:22] <shawndearmond> This may be a long shot, but I need help installing PDO_OCI on my 10.04 Desktop machine. I have instantclient 11.2, and it can connect via oci, but not pdo. Any takers?
[23:22] <Rehan> Auriga: oh i see. yeah i don't really play games at all
[23:22] <Auriga> royale1223, That's what I mean, the more you use it, the easier it is, & the more useful it is.
[23:22] <Auriga> Rehan, What is your primary usage?
[23:22] <Jordan_U> negev: You probably also want to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" to change what device the grub packaging is set to install to in the future.
[23:22] <Auriga> Rehan, I am now at the point with Linux where the only reason I have a dual boot with MS is gaming...
[23:23] <Rehan> Auriga: email,web,statistical analysis, and movies from time to time
[23:23] <royale1223> Auriga: i agree completely. i just found out today that there is a nerolinux available. :p
[23:23] <alex86> well, thanks. I have discovered that i have python already. if I install python 3 will it overwrite my older one - pyton 2.6?
[23:23] <Auriga> royale1223, nerolinux? As in Nero Burning Media Center?
[23:23] <Rehan> Auriga: what besides gaming being limited do you hate about ubuntu?
[23:23] <Jordan_U> negev: It will ask you other questions, just leave them at their default (some will be blank, that is normal). When it gets to the install devices question use space bar to select / deselect devices. Make sure that /dev/sda is selected but *no* partititions (like sda1).
[23:23] <royale1223> Auriga: thats why i like linux. surprises me everyday
[23:24] <royale1223> Auriga: yeah
[23:24] <Auriga> royale1223, Lol, Thanks for the info, I didn't know..
[23:24] <Auriga> Rehan, Some small things like how files are represented in windows...
[23:24] <Auriga> Rehan, Which has changed a lot of late for the good.
[23:24] <royale1223> Auriga: its trial ofcorse but u can find serials if you look for it.
[23:24] <Auriga> royale1223, Thanks.
[23:25] <WeThePeople> how do i get into SAM to change a password
[23:25] <royale1223> Auriga: you're welcome
[23:25] <Bilz> i seem to have made gimp full screen so it covers the bottom bar and the top bar. how do i fix it!
[23:25] <Auriga> Rehan, There isn't much to hate about Linux, or at least not Ubuntu because there is so much help available, & to be honest after a while you figure things out on your own anyways
[23:25] <Auriga> Bilz, Maybe F11?
[23:25] <alex86> gordonjcp: well, thanks. I have discovered that i have python already. if I install python 3 will it overwrite my older one - pyton 2.6?
[23:25] <Bilz> Auriga, no luck
[23:26] <Auriga> Bilz, Then I don't know, try killing it, then re opening it...?
[23:26] <Quji> hello all, can someone help me ? ubuntu just dont start
[23:26] <Quji> here is snapshot: http://img806.imageshack.us/i/16350431.png/
[23:26] <Auriga> Bilz, do you still have window borders?
[23:26] <gordonjcp> alex86: no, they will coexist
[23:26] <Bilz> Auriga,
[23:26] <Bilz> no
[23:27] <raido_> alex86: It should not, Only a revision would overwrite a previous version.
[23:27] <Auriga> Bilz, Are you using Compiz?
[23:27] <Bilz> Auriga, no. heres a screenshot : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16658950/Screenshot.png
[23:27] <Rehan> i just wish grub2 bootloader wasn't so ugly
[23:27] <gordonjcp> raido_: a revision with the same version, at that
[23:27] <Bilz> i dont know what i did, was working fine a few minutes ago
[23:27] <Achylles_> alex86, use aptitude to install that so it will deal with any issue
[23:27] <royale1223> Auriga:
[23:27] <Bilz> dragged it a little by accident and did that
[23:27] <royale1223> Auriga: http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9499/screenshot4oh.png
[23:27] <itali-chan> hi, i need a prograr how cue splitter but for linux
[23:27] <gordonjcp> Rehan: why, what would you like your bootloader to look like?
[23:28] <Jordan_U> Rehan: It can be themed: http://apebox.org/wordpress/linux/261/
[23:28] <itali-chan> please :3
[23:28] <gordonjcp> Rehan: and how often do you actually look at the bootloader anyway?
[23:28] <Rehan> Jordan_U: awesome link
[23:28] <alex86> gordonjcp: sudo aptitude install python ?
[23:28] <Auriga> royale1223, Nice, though it looks like its not offering more than Braserio...?
[23:29] <Auriga> Bilz, Sorry, that was a no to Compuz?
[23:29] <WeThePeople> nvr mind
[23:29] <Rehan> gordonjcp: anything is better than the current look. The grub version number has like 18 sig figs after it, I don't want the recovery options showing, the memtest, etc
[23:29] <gordonjcp> alex86: probably python3
[23:29] <alex86> gordonjcp: i just don`t wanna to delete all other pacjages like imaginary library, etc
[23:29] <naturalpsychic> how to format the whole hdd using terminal (cuz i can't do it in gui, cuz its been used) i need to install windows 7 as well as ubuntu
[23:29] <raido_> alex86: 3.1 actually
[23:29] <raido_> alex86: sudo apt-get install python3.1
[23:29] <Auriga> Rehan, That is simple to fix, though that is a minor issue as you see it for a minimal amount of time at bootup.
[23:29] <royale1223> Auriga: i havent tested it much yet, but is very nice to see nero on your pc right? like seeng an old buddy again.
[23:30] <Auriga> royale1223, Lol.
[23:30] <Achylles_> naturalpsychic, do you want dual-boot?
[23:30] <royale1223> Auriga: ;)
[23:30] <kashyapGada> how to install rpm files in ubuntu
[23:30] <Rehan> Auriga: yeah i looked into how to fix it. I guess I will just use the custom boot script and put in my own names into it
[23:30] <naturalpsychic> Achylles_: yes
[23:30] <meganerdca> nero... can't say I miss it
[23:31] <Auriga> The only thing in windows I want in Linux is PeerBlock... Other than that everything else is awesome.
[23:31] <royale1223> by the way barsero have problems ejesting the drive
[23:31] <alex86> radio: ok. thank you. i just though there is a safer way to upgrade it
[23:31] <Auriga> royale1223, Not my drives.
[23:31] <Auriga> Off topic I know, anyone here using Arch?
[23:31] <kashyapGada> how to install .rpm files in ubntu
[23:32] <royale1223> Auriga: glad to hear that. maybe a problem only with lg drive
[23:32] <Achylles_> naturalpsychic, I used to have dual boot in my machines, but I do not use that anymore. I use virtualization which I think is much better and practical as well
[23:32] <Auriga> royale1223, Lol, nope mine is an LG also...
[23:33] <Auriga> Achylles_, Crazy how well XP runs in a VM right? It's lightening quick compared to a hard install lol.
[23:33] <Achylles_> naturalpsychic, but, if you want to still have dual boot you can partition your hd with gparted
[23:33] <b1lly> isetup a vsftpd server with users and permissions... locally, everything works good. i goto the ftp, i get prompted for username and pw, and i can connect (it directs me to the correct directory) fine. however, once i go outside of the machine...i get prompted for the username and password, and than it hangs and never connects
[23:33] <royale1223> Auriga: maybe this particular model, or i hv screwed up something
[23:33] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Just so you know, the grub menu will be greatly simplified in the next version of Ubuntu.
[23:34] <Auriga> royale1223, Lol.
[23:34] <Rehan> Jordan_U: Would you happen to have a link on how to install grub2 themes? Thank you
[23:34] <royale1223> Auriga: :D
[23:34] <Jordan_U> Rehan: Read the README in http://retro.apebox.org/grubthemes/directhex-grub-themes-00000010.tar.gz
[23:34] <Achylles_> Auriga, for me it is much better than dual-booting :)
[23:34] <Rehan> Jordan_U: thanks!
[23:34] <Jordan_U> Rehan: You're welcome.
[23:35] <Auriga> Achylles_, Yeah but for gaming you are limited in a VM.
[23:35] <Auriga> royale1223, I just went back to my browser... Why did you remove the bottom bar of your GUI?
[23:35] <Achylles_> Auriga, ok. I am not into games anyway.
[23:35] <Rehan> Jordan_U: is the next version of Ubuntu coming out anytime soon?
[23:36] <Auriga> Achylles_, Then you don't have the same problem I do lol.
[23:36] <anallyraped> why should i use ubuntu over debian or cent os?
[23:36] <gorfex> !ff4
[23:36] <royale1223> Auriga: it happened when i reset my panel
[23:36] <Jordan_U> Rehan: April 28
[23:36] <lupusclan> help !!!!!! had win ... switch to linux from win administered through a serial port with software called data transfers and to have linux I recognize the com port and tty calls it now lack is a graphical interface for file transfers over port tty (com to win) as did data transfer
[23:37] <Rehan> Jordan_U: will upgrading to that require me to setup everything from scratch again in Grub2 (if I remove the memtest/recovery entries, theme it, etc)?
[23:37] <meganerdca> lupusclan: install konsole and lrzsz.  You can then get files with zmodem
[23:37] <meganerdca> lupusclan: you could also use kermit
[23:38] <royale1223> Rehan: have you tried grub customiser?
[23:38] <Rehan> royale1223: nope, does it work with grub2?
[23:38] <ebrahim> hi all
[23:38] <meganerdca> lupusclan: you will probably need minicom as well
[23:38] <royale1223> Rehan: yep
[23:38] <lupusclan> yes
[23:39] <Jordan_U> Rehan: As long as you only edit settings in /etc/default/grub rather than editing files in /etc/grub.d/ (adding new ones and editing 40_custom should not cause problems) there will be no reconfiguration required when you upgrade.
[23:39] <ebrahim> please help me :(
[23:40] <anallyraped> how do i remove ubuntu?
[23:40] <Aginor> !help | ebrahim
[23:40] <lasha> hey guys I got a problem with flash player i think, in firefox 4.0 cpu usage goes up to 80% and the video playback also flickers, do I need to reinstall flash or update or anything?
[23:40] <Rehan> Jordan_U: ok cool. one last question. If I want to elevate to root when editing a file via the GUI, is there any way to do it without opening up nautilus from the start elevated?
[23:40] <gordonjcp> Ubuntu needs to have an option to install it with all sounds turned off by default
[23:41] <gordonjcp> since it's now 23:40 and everyone in about a two mile radius now knows that someone just booted Ubuntu
[23:41] <Auriga> gordonjcp, Lol, I know that feeling.
[23:42] <Jordan_U> Rehan: You can use "gksudo gedit" from a terminal or from the alt+F2 dialog.
[23:42] <ebrahim> are you speake Persion ?
[23:42] <gordonjcp> it's so infuriating, since every update seems to put the bloody sounds back
[23:42] <ebrahim> are you speake Persion ?
[23:42] <ebrahim> are you speake Persion ?
[23:42] <FloodBot3> ebrahim: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:42] <Aginor> to remove ubuntu, simply delete the partitions it's on. To remove grub, replace it with a different bootloader, for example windows's
[23:42] <Aginor> !arabic
[23:42] <Aginor> !persian
[23:43] <Diamondcite> Aginor: I think the person just for killed.
[23:43] <gordonjcp> also, Persian != Arabic
[23:43] <Rehan> but all those squiggly lines look the same!
[23:43] <lupusclan> and tried minicom, kermit and Zmodem but none gives graphical interface, also use uucp and emulate the program transfers data to win .. using wine, but not reconose com or tty port ..
[23:43] <Aginor> gordonjcp, yeah, I realised I was stupid just after I implied it :/
[23:43] <lupusclan> and tried minicom, kermit and Zmodem but none gives graphical interface, also use uucp and emulate the program transfers data to win .. using wine, but not reconose com or tty port ..
[23:43] <alex86> gordonjcp: sudo apt-get didn`t help. as u said. it installed python 3.1 but by default is still python 2.6
[23:43] <raido_> gordonjcp: why not just unstall the sound system?
[23:44] <gordonjcp> raido_: because that wants to uninstall lots of stuff
[23:44] <Aginor> Diamondcite, fair enough
[23:44] <gordonjcp> raido_: and I do actually want it to make sounds, just absolutely no system sounds of any kind ever
[23:45] <raido_> gordonjcp: hmmm,
[23:45] <royale1223> i need help with resetting my panel.
[23:45] <alex86> raido: i have installed python 3 but by default is python 2.6 I wanna delete older version. but it is dependent on a lot of packages essential for the system work. is there any walkarounds?
[23:45] <lupusclan> meganerdca: ganerdca> lupusclan: you will probably need minicom as well
 Rehan: yep
[23:45] <lupusclan> * WeThePeople se ha marchado (Quit: Leaving)
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[23:45] <lupusclan> * Daekdroom<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ha entrado en #ubuntu
[23:45] <FloodBot3> lupusclan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:45] <lupusclan> * heaviside<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ha entrado en #ubuntu
[23:46] <Rehan> guys is there a way to change the location where the default home directories (documents, pictures, music,etc) point to in Ubuntu?
[23:46] <trism> alex86: if you remove python2.6 you will break many things installed by default in ubuntu
[23:46] <raido_> gordonjcp: alias "python" python3 ot change your environment variable for python
[23:46] <gordonjcp> raido_: that's more for alex86
[23:46] <trism> alex86: you will also likely break them if you set python3 to default
[23:46] <alex86> trism: ok, i got it. it is fate then
[23:46] <raido_> gordonjcp: doh!
[23:47] <ruggero> hi
[23:47] <Achylles_> royale
[23:47] <raido_> alex86: alias "python" python3 ot change your environment variable for python
[23:47] <Rehan> Auriga: any idea?
[23:47] <royale1223> Achylles_: me?
[23:47] <princej88> Hi, I am making a home file server with ubuntu 10.04 and after the reboot after installation, I am stuck at the grub command line. Any help would be appreciated
[23:48] <alex86> trism: i wonder why ubuntu 10.10 is still dependent on such an old version of python?
[23:48] <Achylles_> royale1223, type 'killall gnome-panel' in your terminal and that's it :)
[23:48] <trism> alex86: it will take a lot of work to port everything to python 3, it will happen eventually though
[23:48] <lupusclan> had win ... switch to linux from win administered through a serial port with software called data transfers and to have linux I recognize the com port and tty calls it now lack is a graphical interface for file transfers over port tty (com to win) as did data transfer and tried minicom, kermit and Zmodem but none gives graphical interface, also use uucp and emulate the program transfers data to win .. using wine, but not reconose com or tty port ..
[23:49] <royale1223> Achylles_: did that, but this is what i get. http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1591/screenshot2rw.png
[23:49] <alex86> trism: well at least for python 2.7 they could do it :)
[23:49] <trism> alex86: natty is default python 2.7
[23:49] <alex86> trism: thabnks for the asnwer
[23:50] <Rehan> guys is there a way to change the location where the default home directories (documents, pictures, music,etc) point to in Ubuntu?
[23:50] <alex86> trism: so perhaps this is the same reason why python 2.6 is default on macOS as well
[23:50] <ruggero> hi, I moved my home partition, for some reason now ownership is root (!) Cannot put it back to myusername:myusername. Used sudo chown -R name:name /pathtohome/. The command gives no errors, but no ownership change... why ?!?
[23:51] <mostafa> alooo
[23:51] <royale1223> ruggero: i think you have to add user i options in fstab
[23:51] <gordonjcp> Rehan: rename them?
[23:51] <Achylles_> royale1223, try to restart the X server then and see the result
[23:51] <gordonjcp> Rehan: What exactly are you trying to do?
[23:51] <princej88> Hi, I am making a home file server with ubuntu 10.04 and after the reboot after installation, I am stuck at the grub command line. Any ideas?
[23:52] <Jordan_U> princej88: Do you get any error message at boot?
[23:52] <Rehan> gordonjcp: have those directories point to my third partition where i have docs,pics,music directories
[23:52] <ruggero> royale1223 thanks
[23:52] <princej88> Jordan_U: no i don't, i typed 'boot' and and it says 'no loaded kernel'
[23:52] <gordonjcp> Rehan: make symlinks then
[23:52] <royale1223> Achylles_: whats the command for it?>
[23:52] <makaveli0129> i have about 19 million files to delete and the normal delete says it'll take about 6 hours anyone know a faster way to do this without formatting?
[23:53] <Rehan> gordonjcp: that makes me lose the image on the folder, you know how each folder has a nice little icon for what it contains, the music note, the video reel, photos, etc
[23:53] <Jordan_U> princej88: And this is immediately after a normal install?
[23:53] <princej88> Jordan_U 'error: no loaded kernal" i meant
[23:53] <alex86> raido_: how can i switch between default python version and new one? without removing old one??
[23:53] <princej88> Jordan_U: yes.
[23:53] <Jordan_U> princej88: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[23:53] <{qp}> makaveli0129: use rm
[23:53] <royale1223> ruggero: my fstab line is "/dev/sda4     /home    ext4    defaults      0      0" actually
[23:53] <gordonjcp> Rehan: I'm pretty sure you can set a .desktop file for that
[23:53] <Rehan> gordonjcp: plus wouldn't the symlink have to be inside the folder, so i'd have to go into Pictures, then click on the Symlink?
[23:53] <Achylles_> royale1223, if you are using Gnome, do cd /etc/init.d && ./gdm restart
[23:53] <gordonjcp> Rehan: the symlink would be to the target directory
[23:53] <princej88> Jordan_U: no i don't, but when i typed ls. it listed '(hd0) and (hd0,1)
[23:53] <makaveli0129> qp: how long do u think that will take?
[23:54] <Rehan> gordonjcp: set a .desktop file? Should I google setting a .desktop file?
[23:54] <princej88> Jordan_U: is that normal for having only one hd?
[23:54] <raido_> alex86: if you need to execute some certain program with the newer python the just do $python3 programname
[23:54] <Jordan_U> princej88: Yes.
[23:54] <royale1223> Achylles_: thanks
[23:54] <pvaldes> I found that my problem regarding OpenGL is because it's rendering using a wront DRI driver
[23:54] <pvaldes> wrong, even.
[23:54] <pvaldes> I have an intel chipset (dell inspiron 14)
[23:54] <Jordan_U> princej88: What is the output of "source /boot/grub/grub.cfg"?
[23:54] <{qp}> don't know but i am sure it will be faster
[23:54] <makaveli0129> ok thank you it is a directory so should i use -rf?
[23:55] <{qp}> are all those files in the same folder? have they any patron you can give?
[23:55] <ruggero> royale1223, thanks a lot, I try to play with fstab using your example
[23:55] <princej88> Jordan_U: nothing comes up
[23:55] <makaveli0129> yea all in same folder and patron?
[23:55] <Jordan_U> princej88: If you press escape do you see a menu?
[23:55] <princej88> Jordan_U: just shows grub> _
[23:55] <{qp}> makaveli0129: sorry i write a word in my native language, sorry.
[23:55] <ruggero> royale1223, hope not to mess up more than this...! (with home at root:root ownership many things do not work !)
[23:55] <royale1223> ruggero: youre welcome
[23:55] <princej88> Jordan_U: no i dont, i just skips to the next line
[23:56] <makaveli0129> qp: no worries
[23:56] <{qp}> makaveli0129: and inside that folder there are more files you don't want to delete?
[23:56] <ADL> hi
[23:56] <makaveli0129> qp: there was but i switched to my windows box and windows then put it in a recycle bin on the drive so i'm just gunna delete that now
[23:56] <Jordan_U> princej88: Could you boot a liveCD and run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[23:57] <princej88> Jordan_U: let me try that. I will let you knwo what happens
[23:57] <royale1223> Achylles_: i get this error on restarting gdm. http://paste.ubuntu.com/587108/
[23:57] <{qp}> makaveli0129: so if you delete that folder you will only loose that files you dont want
[23:57] <makaveli0129> qp: correct
[23:57] <ruggero> royale1223, what do you meant with  "to add user i options in fstab". Do you have your example ?
[23:58] <Asad> how does ubuntu act when a key like fn+f4 (to switch to external monitor on laptops) is pressed... Can I map that to a different key?
[23:58] <Achylles_> royale1223, Have you done that as root?
[23:58] <makaveli0129> qp: but i don't want it to go to recycle bin on ubuntu cuz then i have to empty it and that will take forever as well
[23:58] <royale1223> ruconse: can you pastebin your fstab?
[23:58] <alex86> raido_: but if i want to work with new version from IDE?
[23:58] <{qp}> makaveli0129: then open a terminal and type: rm -r /the/folder/where/are/all/the/files and dont worry they will be enterely deleted
[23:59] <royale1223> ruggero: can you pastebin your fstab?
[23:59] <makaveli0129> outstanding thank you i wasn't sure if rm worked that way or not
[23:59] <makaveli0129> appriciate it
[23:59] <royale1223> sorry ruggero, wrong ping
[23:59] <raido_> alex86: http://superuser.com/questions/247620/how-to-globally-modify-the-default-pythonpath-sys-path
[23:59] <royale1223> Achylles_: yes
[23:59] <NewWorld> Asad:  you could use xbindkeys to do it


[05:58] <subnaught> hi
[05:59] <subnaught> how can I use M$ OneDrive with Jammy Jellyfish?
 Hi. Have you tried rclone? Not sure if that's what you are looking for.


[11:36] <mup> PR snapcraft#3732 closed: commands: upload <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3732>
[16:46] <mup> PR snapd#11749 opened: tests: skip mount-order-regression test on ubuntu-core for i386 <Simple 😃> <Run failed> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11749>
[18:46] <mup> PR snapd#11750 opened: tests: skip external backend in mem-cgroup-disabled test <Simple 😃> <Run failed> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11750>


[04:34] <bkerensa> adam_g: Mr. Atul Jha from Chennai India wants to get in touch with u
[04:34] <bkerensa> :)
[04:34] <bkerensa> adam_g: I assume you know him (koolhead17?)
[04:34] <bkerensa> he is in PDX
[18:51] <adam_g> bkerensa, is he still? i knew he was coming into town but never heard from him
[19:53] <bkerensa> adam_g: he left this morning
[19:53] <bkerensa> adam_g: I hung out with him for a bit
[19:53] <bkerensa> apparently TSA gave him a nice talk when he arrived in Portland
[19:53] <bkerensa> :)