[04:45] <WhiteDawn> Purpley: I've had to do it myself for a older propietary program. You can also try and modify the make file, but that could cause issues with version differences
[04:45] <zeleftikam> hi boys and girls! what do i need to get ubuntu server running on a dell poweredge 2550 (i686 Pentium 3 system)
[04:45] <airtonix> billy, dont confuse lan address with your wan address.
[04:45] <abhi_nav> !ot
[04:46] <billy> airtonix whats my lan ip
[04:46] <Izinucs> billy: have you tried it with http://192.xxx.xxx.xxx:80
[04:46] <Lance7> Would it be a wise move to use hibernation feature in ubuntu if lets you run like 4 virtual machines and when power goes out  after ups is on low batteries  let hibernation kick in?
[04:46] <billy> which ip is this <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:46] <casemods> can anyone help me? for some reason, the internet isn't working on my ubuntu pc
[04:46] <airtonix> Lance7, why wouldnt it be wise... what are your fears ?
[04:47] <airtonix> billy, thats your wan address (probably should not have pasted that here)
[04:47] <arand> Purpley: Just symlink to ...so.6?
[04:47] <psycho_oreos> casemods, and how are you to be able to connect to internet?
[04:47] <billy> whats wan??
[04:47] <abhi_nav> psycho_oreos, :D
[04:47] <billy> airtonix and why not? :S
[04:47] <airtonix> billy, wide area network. the internet facing side of your modem/router
[04:47] <Lance7> i might get what happens in windows or similar?
[04:47] <abhi_nav> !details | casemods
[04:47] <Purpley> arand, I tried that, i get error messages from that
[04:48] <psycho_oreos> abhi_nav, o.O
[04:48] <zeleftikam> which version of ubuntu should i download to install on a pentium 3 server?
[04:48] <abhi_nav> psycho_oreos, hmm
[04:48] <greezmunkey> zeleftikam: the latest
[04:48] <airtonix> billy, does the machine you have apache on also have gnome desktop ?
[04:48] <Izinucs> zeleftikam: you want a server or desktop?
[04:48] <billy> airtonix ok so how do i find my lan address
[04:48] <zeleftikam> server
[04:48] <greezmunkey> zeleftikam: 32bit
[04:48] <Izinucs> zeleftikam: then ubuntu server
[04:48] <billy> airtonix whats a gnome desktop
[04:48] <abhi_nav> I thinnk everyone is in comedy mood today.
[04:48] <Izinucs> zeleftikam: and like greezmunkey said
[04:48] <zeleftikam> ah maybe that was my problem, i tried installing from a cd i made for my core2quad
[04:48] <zeleftikam> i need to dl the 32 bit version of 9.10 and it'll run well eh?
[04:49] <casemods> abhi_nav: I have latest ubuntu stable release and the internet just doesn't work. I can't even access my modem via the 198.x.x.x via firefox. but as you can see, the modem is working fine on this pc
[04:49] <drizzt_> zeleftikam, Pentium III cannot be server
[04:49] <zeleftikam> ?
[04:49] <Lance7> what version of ubuntu server is the most stable ?
[04:49] <Izinucs> drizzt_: zeleftikam sure it can
[04:49] <vesper_> my ethrnet is nopt detecting in ubuntu
[04:49] <vesper_> pls help
[04:49] <airtonix> billy, the machine you have apache running on it ? how did you install ubuntu ? from ubuntu-server.iso or ubuntu-desktop ? is there a monitor atached to the apache machine ?
[04:49] <abhi_nav> casemods, you mean modem and not ethernet? hmm? modem required drivers to be installed
[04:49] <arand> Purpley: Or get it as a .deb from debian, or packages.ubuntu.com, if it may be there..
[04:49] <psycho_oreos> vesper_, pastebin (not paste) your lspci -nnk output
[04:49] <billy> yes theres a moniter im running it all from  one pc
[04:49] <Izinucs> Lance7: 8.04 is LTS and soon to be replaced with 10.04
[04:50] <zeleftikam> i know the machine is old, i just want to screw around with it, i bought it for $10 today
[04:50] <vesper_> My ethernet is not detecting as wired auto etho0 in ubuntu plz help
[04:50] <Izinucs> zeleftikam: you won't have any issues with the server version.. remember there's no gui
[04:50] <psycho_oreos> !repeat | vesper_
[04:50] <airtonix> billy, ok (im assuming its gnome desktop) up in the top right corner you should see your network connection, right click it and select "connection information"
[04:50] <zeleftikam> right
[04:50] <mamamia> Hmm... I have a HDD that has a fully functioning Ubuntu. I also have another HDD that is empty. Can I bypass installing Ubuntu on that new HDD by copy-pasting everything from the old HDD?
[04:50] <zeleftikam> thanks everyone :)
[04:50] <zeleftikam> <3
[04:50] <arand> Purpley: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libstdc++5 _might_ work
[04:50] <N00b1> how can i access my share files on my windows box from ubuntu
[04:50] <casemods> abhi_nav: the modem worked fine before. it's a DSL modem. it worked fine - was downloading with transmission, then let my dad use the modem and now it doesn't work on my pc
[04:51] <Lance7> what would you recommend to use a virtual machine server  and that got not too much over head?
[04:51] <abhi_nav> your dad made it off? casemods ?
[04:51] <Izinucs> Lance7: virtualbox
[04:51] <vesper_> I haved plugged ethernet wire in ubuntu but its not detecting and pinging any thing showing host unreachable just like its not connected at all
[04:51] <billy> airtonix ive sent you a pm
[04:51] <casemods> my dad used the modem on his pc so he can use the internet abhi_nav
[04:51] <casemods> we dont have wifi
[04:51] <Lance7> and what version of ubuntu server to use ?
[04:51] <psycho_oreos> casemods, considered getting a DSL router instead?
[04:52] <abhi_nav> casemods, and as you said previously working modem, you mean previously too on ubuntu?
[04:52] <Izinucs> casemods: ask him to buy a wireless router for around $60
[04:52] <vesper_> I m using adsl modem and be4 today it was detecting without any configuration,but today its simply not showing connected
[04:52] <Psi-Jack-> Lance7: Will this virtualmachine server be used for desktop, or server use?
[04:52] <Lance7> server mainly
[04:52] <casemods> we dont want to waste money on wifi router, he barely uses the modem once a month. abhi_nav yes, it was working fine. nothing was changed. now all of a sudden, i am unable to even access the modem via the 198.x.x.x in firefox.
[04:53] <Psi-Jack-> Lance7: Then you don't want virtualbox AT ALL.
[04:53] <Psi-Jack-> Lance7: Xen is your best friend.
[04:53] <vesper_> I m using adsl modem and be4 today it was detecting without any configuration,but today its simply not showing connected
[04:53] <vesper_> I haved plugged ethernet wire in ubuntu but its not detecting and pinging any thing showing host unreachable just like its not connected at all
[04:53] <vesper_> plz help
[04:53] <Lance7> can you convert from virtualbox to xen?
[04:53] <casemods> vesper_: I'm having the same problem
[04:53] <Psi-Jack-> Lance7: No
[04:53] <Izinucs> Lance7: are you going to install ubuntu server on the machine then run something else in a VM? or run a server in a vm?
[04:54] <mamamia> Anyone familiar with unetbootin?
[04:54] <drizzt_> I'm unable to connect to Windows SMB share from linux, despite all ports opened and smbclient etc. installed, it rejects my password or give 'LOGON_FAILURE' if coneected via terminal, what can be a reson?
[04:54] <vesper_> BUt before today everything was working fine but today its creating trouble
[04:54] <Lance7> install ubuntu server and then install virtualbox or xen for 4 vm
[04:54] <casemods> vesper_: yes, same case with me.
[04:54] <[Screamo]> Anyone know how to crack wep keys =S
[04:55] <Losha> casemods: he may have busted it. Does it have a reset button?
[04:55] <Izinucs> Lance7: and what will you run in the vm?
[04:55] <vesper_> then what should i do ??
[04:55] <casemods> yes but it's working 100% on this machine Losha  (clearly as I'm online)
[04:55] <vesper_> did u get any solution for that ??
[04:55] <d7777777> how can I find out the version of specific shared library?
[04:55] <casemods> vesper_: not yet. I'm guessing you didn't change anything like me and for some reason it's just not working
[04:55] <Lance7> the server got 12 gig of ram.. the vm are 3 ubuntu's and one windows 7 (all x64)..
[04:55] <casemods> did you add any wifi cards? I'm going to take mine out just in case
[04:56] <Losha> casemods: so you're saying it works on windows and not ubuntu?
[04:56] <babu__> i installed uget with an interface.....but when i tried it in terminal,it shows command not found
[04:56] <vesper_> nop[e i just change something in my adsl modem seting and reeboted mopdem once after that this problem is created
[04:56] <Izinucs> Lance7: do you want to run them all at the same time?
[04:56] <casemods> it was working yesterday Losha on ubuntu and windows
[04:56] <Lance7> yes'
[04:56] <casemods> it was working fine for days
[04:56] <Lance7> 24x7
[04:57] <Izinucs> Lance7: then xen or vmware.. xen most likely
[04:57] <Losha> casemods: sorry, maybe someone else can help...
[04:57] <ARCHAN> Hi.......
[04:57] <Lance7> xen has its own os?
[04:57] <Psi-Jack-> Lance7: Yeah, they do.
[04:57] <Psi-Jack-> Xen Citrix
[04:57] <Izinucs> Lance7: don
[04:57] <Psi-Jack-> But.
[04:57] <WhiteDawn> how is virtual box anyway? VMware modules dont like to compile with my PPA kernel
[04:57] <Kasm279> has the intel i865 driver issue been fixed in Karmick?
[04:57] <Psi-Jack-> You don't need Xen Citrix to use Xen Hypervisor
[04:57] <ARCHAN> How do i make history not stored ? i dont want places > recent doc to store  my recent files
[04:57] <Kasm279> (on a joaunt page: If you have an i865 graphics card (check lspci |grep VGA), in Jaunty we've disabled DRI intentionally due to an X freeze-on-boot bug (see bug #317457).)
[04:58] <Izinucs> Lance7: not really sure..
[04:58] <Kasm279> jaunty*
[04:58] <Lance7> but there's not such thing as xen for ubuntu i guess ..
[04:58] <Izinucs> Lance7: never looked..
[04:59] <Guest26864> hey what is the netstat command to find out what ports are being used by what app>?
[04:59] <babu__> pls reply for me
[04:59] <arand> WhiteDawn: I don't think we're very qualified to guess how it will work with your non-standard configuration ;)
[04:59] <Lance7> i heard opensuse has it
[04:59] <ARCHAN> How do i make history not stored ? i dont want places > recent doc to store  my recent files
[05:00] <WhiteDawn> arand: I mainly reference how virtualbox is opensource so the modules are less of a issue, I have no idea how it performs compaired to vmware though
[05:00] <Psi-Jack-> Lance7: Debian, OpenSUSE, and Ubuntu all have Xen
[05:01] <babu__> ans this....i installed uget with an interface.....but when i tried it in terminal,it shows command not found
[05:01] <Lance7> thanks..
[05:01] <Lance7> in ubuntu if I have 12 gig ram and its a server machine, what should the swap size be?
[05:01] <vesper_> nop[e i just change something in my adsl modem seting and reeboted mopdem once after that this problem is created
[05:01] <vesper_> nop[e i just change something in my adsl modem seting and reeboted mopdem once after that this problem is created
[05:01] <vesper_> BUt before today everything was working fine but today its creating trouble
[05:01] <babu__> i think thos channel is quite often idle...no one is tryin to ans me
[05:01] <babu__> i think this channel is quite often idle...no one is tryin to ans me
[05:02] <babu__> ans this....i installed uget with an interface.....but when i tried it in terminal,it shows command not found
[05:02] <babu__> i think this channel is quite often idle...no one is tryin to ans me
[05:02] <babu__> i think this channel is quite often idle...no one is tryin to ans me
[05:02] <FloodBot1> babu__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:02] <airtonix> !repeat | babu_
[05:02] <Miyavix3> I just installed AwesomeWM and I don't know how to get the internet started. How do i connect to the internet? (wifi) Ubuntu 9.10 32bit
[05:02] <vesper_> sad:(
[05:02] <airtonix> Miyavix3, assuming you installed it on top of ubuntu you can run : nm-applet to get the icon in a systray
[05:03] <Psi-Jack-> Miyavix3: The internet never stops.
[05:03] <Lance7> in ubuntu if I have 12 gig ram and its a server machine, what should the swap size be?
[05:03] <casemods> hey can anyone tell me how to get rid of the OS menu when ubuntu starts? I want to install ubuntu for my dad to see if he likes it better than windows.
[05:03] <Psi-Jack-> Lance7: Maybe 2gb max?
[05:03] <Miyavix3> airtonix: Thanks, I'll try it.
[05:03] <Psi-Jack-> Lance7: Each Xen domU vm will have it's own swap anyway.
[05:03] <arand> WhiteDawn: I've had a quite ok time with vbox-ose, in my opinion quite superior for light virtualisation.
[05:03] <ARCHAN> How do i make history not stored ? i dont want places > recent doc to store  my recent files
[05:03] <tomoj> whenever I suspend to ram (using Fn+F1, not sure who is listening to that key) and come back, my wifi doesn't work anymore
[05:04] <tomoj> and rebooting is the only way I've figured out to get wifi back
[05:04] <tomoj> anyone else seen this?
[05:04] <Lance7> think its best not give too much swap becouse it might be overkill
[05:04] <Losha> Kasm279: I don't see any other fix beyond the workaround which is to disable DRI, committed to (or should that be 'on') package xserver-xorg-video-intel - 2:2.6.3-0ubuntu3
[05:04] <airtonix> Lance7, why? if you dont have enough swap then you wont be able to hibernate
[05:04] <WhiteDawn> arand: ah, ok thanks, thats what I was planing on using it with. Thanks for hte info
[05:05] <Lance7> so maybe 12 gig for a full hibernation?
[05:05] <aarthi> guys i need 2 know abt how 2 run a image in UEC
[05:05] <airtonix> Lance7, alos in your case (running lots of VMs) if your real ram is full and the swap is also more than half full.... then hibernating will fail.
[05:05] <Psi-Jack-> Lance7: Linux doesn't use swap for hibernation.
[05:06] <[QUAD64]> too bad, it would help a lot
[05:06] <tomoj> do people actually wind up with half full swaps, though?
[05:06] <arand> Psi-Jack-: It does.
[05:06] <tomoj> I try to never use mine..
[05:06] <airtonix> Lance7, in your case i would make it 2.5 times the amount of real ram you have and then some because you are doing some heavy stuff there that requries disaster prevention
[05:06] <airtonix> Psi-Jack-, prove it.
[05:06] <aarthi> guys i need 2 know abt how 2 run a image in UEC???
[05:07] <airtonix> tomoj, you're not running seven virtual machines that are performing network services though are you ?
[05:07] <Lance7> is there such thing as a hibernation partition ?
[05:07] <aarthi> or can u plz tell me who clould help me with that
[05:07] <airtonix> !u | aarthi
[05:07] <airtonix> Lance7, its called the swap partition
[05:07] <tomoj> airtonix: not yet :)
[05:07] <tomoj> well, never on this puny little POS
[05:07] <jules> hi?
[05:07] <martman> how do i force a FS' superblock to be marked as clean?
[05:08] <tomoj> hmm, I wonder where Fn+F1 is hooked to s2ram
[05:08] <Psi-Jack-> swsusp uses the swap, yes. And you can make a swap file for your hibernation if that be the case.
[05:08] <tomoj> /etc/acpi ?
[05:08] <plustax> Alright. So I am having trouble getting certain flash applets including my flash webcam websites to function for me. Im running 9.10. Can someone help me out?
[05:08] <airtonix> tomoj, no idea i use the dbus method to suspend when i use openbox
[05:08] <Lance7> also this server use sata drives 4 1 tb what would be a good raid level ?
[05:09] <tomoj> airtonix: hmm, xmonad here so maybe I will look into that, thanks
[05:09] <airtonix> tomoj, s2ram requires sudo whereas dbus method does not
[05:09] <Psi-Jack-> Lance7: That just plain depends actually.
[05:09] <BellinXFelon> i have an external hdd, and after a short period of time, the contents of it become inaccessible, as if it unmounts itself, can someone help?
[05:09] <tomoj> hmm, I guess maybe acpi or somebody is doing it as root now
[05:09] <Lance7> i know the disk subsystem is cheap compared to scsi or sas
[05:09] <airtonix> Lance7, unfortunately i have no experience with raid yet
[05:10] <Losha> martman: I don't think you can fake it, It has to pass an fsck (or a windows chkdsk if it's ntfs)....
[05:10] <Psi-Jack-> Lance7: Being a virtualizer system, more drives is better. RAID10 will loose you 50% space for a major increase in performance.
[05:10] <airtonix> tomoj, since the key does not work for me until i log in i suspect its being mapped to the dbus method
[05:10] <sobczyk> hi, is it possible to access the dell studio bios functions like wifi/bluetooth switching or turning off battery loading while on ac?
[05:10] <Psi-Jack-> Lance7: While Raid5, you get 75% of the performance and 25% loss of space, not quite as good.
[05:11] <tomoj> airtonix: org.gnome.PowerManager ?
[05:11] <billy> airtonix, whats ppp settings for wlan?
[05:11] <airtonix> sobczyk, this "dell studio bios" sounds interesting, mid rephrasing your question with links to info about it?
[05:11] <Lance7> on the server there an 80 gig drive too do you recommend installing the os there and use the rest of the hdd for a raid 10 ?
[05:11] <greezmunkey> Psi-Jack-: So, 4 1TB drive = 2TB @ RAID10 ? Is that right?
[05:11] <martman> Losha then it just says device or resource busy and wont let me do anything
[05:11] <airtonix> billy, sorry as i mentioned before i have never used wlan before so im not much use there.
[05:12] <Psi-Jack-> greezmunkey: Correct
[05:12] <billy> airtonix kk cheers anyway m8 :)
[05:12] <Psi-Jack-> Lance7: Of course.
[05:12] <aarthi> can anyone help me
[05:12] <casemods> sure aarthi
[05:12] <Guest26864> hey guys i want to setup a tunnel so basically im currently working on an Ubuntu server 8.04 LTS from a computer on a different lan (working from my house)... i want to connect my computer so it becomes part of the local internet at the office (aka i can type in local IPs to acess router etc.. test stuff)
[05:12] <airtonix> billy, sorry i cant be of more help.
[05:12] <greezmunkey> Psi-Jack-: I really have to get some *modern* hardware :)
[05:12] <Psi-Jack-> heh
[05:12] <airtonix> tomoj, i will pastebin my dbus scripts for you.
[05:13] <Lance7> has anyone used webadmin and used the raid area on a software raid?
[05:13] <Kasm279> does anyone know if the "ADSTech DVD Express" (a USB AV capture device) will work in linux?
[05:14] <aarthi> can you tell me how to run a image in UEC
[05:14] <Mathis> has anyone made the Ubuntu bootloader boot?
[05:14] <Dr_Willis_> whats UEC anyway?
[05:15] <Psi-Jack-> Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud
[05:15] <Guest26864> can anyone help me with this?
[05:15] <Guest26864> where would i go to set this up etc..
[05:15] <Dr_Willis_> Mathis:  clarify the question ?
[05:15] <sobczyk> airtonix, there is little info on in, i've hit some page few days ago though lost the link, I needed to turn of fn wfif key because it was not working in ubuntu
[05:15] <casemods> is ubuntu a practical option for my dad?
[05:15] <Dr_Willis_> Guest26864:  check out the ssh tunnle guides on the net - would be a place to strt
[05:15] <Lance7> is the ext3 the best file system for a raid setup for this server I'm putting together ...
[05:15] <Mathis> I downloaded the alternate cd, booted it, used it to create a raid partition on each of both identical harddisks
[05:16] <cfedde> casemods: could be.
[05:16] <Mathis> for about 50MB each partition
[05:16] <Dr_Willis_> Lance7:  ext3 or ext4 - would be the normal ones to use.
[05:16] <Mathis> then created another partition on each for another raid partition
[05:16] <Psi-Jack-> Lance7: Actually, no filesystem is better. LVM would be the better route to go and let the xen-tools to create your lvm lv's
[05:16] <sobczyk> airtonix, I assume it's similar to dell mini, it also have an airplane mode, at least in win 7, tried the same aiplane-manager as for mini, but it doesn't seem to work
[05:16] <Mathis> the first raid pair partitions were used to create a raid1 /boot fs
[05:17] <Psi-Jack-> So, Raid 10 with an LVM VG.
[05:17] <Lance7> I heard of LVM but heard its complicated ...
[05:17] <Mathis> and the second raid pair partition was used to create a RAID0 LVM partition, inside I installed Ubuntu
[05:17] <Mathis> after rebooting the bootloader just hangs
[05:17] <Psi-Jack-> Lance7: You're SETUP is complicated. What'd you expect?
[05:17] <Mathis> no error message, nothing
[05:18] <Psi-Jack-> LVM is better because Xen domU's can use the raw volume space to make actual volumes out of it, where-as images are large files that constantly update as need-be which is crap slow.
[05:18] <Ash2Dust> rchitect
[05:19] <airtonix> tomoj, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/180039/Scripts/hibernate , http://dl.dropbox.com/u/180039/Scripts/reboot , http://dl.dropbox.com/u/180039/Scripts/shutdown , http://dl.dropbox.com/u/180039/Scripts/suspend
[05:19] <Lance7> True, but I've never really done lvm  maybe it will payoff
[05:19] <tomoj> airtonix: thanks!
[05:19] <Losha> martman: which device is it, and what kind of filesystem?
[05:19] <Psi-Jack-> Lance7: if you use xen-tools, it will make the lvm volumes for you for your instances of each Xen domU
[05:19] <casemods> is anybody good with WUBI?
[05:19] <martman> Losha internal hard drive and ext3
[05:20] <martman> not my root drive either...
[05:20] <leandro> casemods, WUBI works for me for about a week, then the system breaks.
[05:20] <abhi_nav> !wubi > casemods
[05:20] <airtonix> sobczyk, i have a hp mini 311 which uses the broadcom 4312 chip (the bluetooth is part of the wifi card) but i can either use : the b43 driver and have a real wifi card and no bluetooth or just use ndiswrapper and have a nuetered wifi card and bluetooth...
[05:20] <Losha> martman: where is it mounted?
[05:21] <Lance7> so when I install ubuntu server don't bother setting up the raid part just load the os , use xen-tools to the lvm raid?
[05:21] <plustax> okay. Somehow I managed to get my cam working. But the flash applet itself is glitchy and all white. I cant see the user list here on stickam and its running slowly. here is a ss of what im seeing. Anyone help me fix it?  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2066611/screenshot2.png
[05:21] <martman> Losha supposed to be mounted to /media/av, but its not clean too
[05:21] <rww> airtonix: or you can use the wl closed-source drivers (plug into ethernet, install bcmwl-kernel-source and b43-fwcutter)
[05:21] <rww> airtonix: which actually work, unlike b43 in my experience :\
[05:21] <Losha> martman: can you access any files on it?
[05:22] <martman> Losha no, its not mounted, refuses too
[05:22] <airtonix> rww, sorry thats what i meant by b43, but it does not let me use my bluetooth
[05:22] <sobczyk> airtonix, luckily I have proprietary broadcom drivers for the wifi, and bt works from the beginning, although I can't use wifi bt switch, nor turn off battery loading
[05:22] <rww> airtonix: ah, okay
[05:22]  * rww doesn't use bluetooth, doesn't know whether it works :\
[05:22] <Lance7> I like ubuntu becouse its friendly for the  linux sysadmin..
[05:23] <airtonix> rww, with bluepad its a handy thing to have if you want to skip traks on rhythm box while the netbook is folded up in the bag ><
[05:23] <Mathis> so anyone an idea?
[05:23] <blakkheim> Lance7: or gets in the way of the sysadmin, depending on the person
[05:23] <Losha> martman: so to recap, you have an ext3 partition that won't mount, and you can't fsck it manually either?
[05:23] <billy> mathis what up m8?
[05:23] <Mathis> ?
[05:24] <abhi_nav> Mathis, what happends?
[05:24] <Mathis> when booting? nothing
[05:24] <martman> Losha correct. fsck gives me a error about it being busy, yet not mounted
[05:24] <Lance7> I have used Fedora but in my experience better support is in ubuntu...
[05:24] <airtonix> rww, i just notice you mentioned "bcmwl-kernel-source" i dont remember doing this part. how would i confirm that its in use ?
[05:24] <abhi_nav> no what was your questoin , MatBoy
[05:24] <abhi_nav> oh sorry
[05:24] <abhi_nav> no what was your questoin , Mathis
[05:24] <Losha> martman: can you tell us the *exact* wording of the error message from fsck?
[05:24] <Lance7> Greatly appreciate the help :)
[05:24] <Mathis> how do I get the bootloader booting the installed Ubuntu?
[05:25] <rww> airtonix: "lsmod | grep ^wl", see if you get any output
[05:25] <martman> Losha "Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sdd1" " "Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program"
[05:25] <Lance7> btw this server has Core i7 2.6ghz..
[05:25] <student> hi
[05:25] <airtonix> rww, ok nothing. just to be sure what is the wifi chipset you have ?
[05:25] <rww> airtonix: BCM4312
[05:25] <student> Hi
[05:26] <abhi_nav> hi student
[05:26] <student> this is zahed
[05:26] <student> from
[05:26] <abhi_nav> !hi | student
[05:26] <student> india
[05:26] <e2jjj> how to configure sudo that it does not asks for password everytime we run it
[05:26] <airtonix> rww: like this one ? 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[05:26] <Ganymede> ohhh...zahed...
[05:26] <student> any body is there???
[05:26] <e2jjj> yes student tell
[05:26] <Lance7> and motherboard is Asus..
[05:26] <rww> airtonix: yes
[05:26] <abhi_nav> student, 1244 i think,
[05:27] <airtonix> rww, are you able to use monitor mode then ?
[05:27] <rww> airtonix: I don't know what that is :S
[05:27] <airtonix> rww, another word for promiscuous mode.
[05:27] <tt_> is there a good method to see if I am being monitored on any of my systems
[05:27] <tomoj> now I have to figure out how to stop whatever's listening to Fn+F1
[05:27] <rumpsy> i'm looking for clear difference between distro and Os
[05:27] <Mathis> anyone?
[05:27] <rumpsy> is that linux is a distro
[05:28] <abhi_nav> rumpsy, no difference
[05:28] <rww> airtonix: oh. That doesn't work with wl, needs b43 (which as I said doesn't work for me) or ndiswrapper (which I refuse to try because ndiswrapper breaks constantly for me)
[05:28] <abhi_nav> no linux is only kernel rumpsy
[05:28] <mjwalker> tt yes vnc
[05:28] <martman> Losha think ill try booting from the install cd and see if that changes anything
[05:28] <mamamia> Can I partition my hard drive, then boot a LiveCD, and from there, use UNetbootin to install Ubuntu "Frugal Install">
[05:28] <mamamia> ?
[05:28] <Psi-Jack-> rumpsy: GNU/Linux is an OS. Distributions are differently packaged GNU/Linux OSs.
[05:28] <Psi-Jack-> That's it.
[05:28] <Lance7> so going with Hardy  will work work with that  i7 cpu?
[05:28] <abhi_nav> on top of that what you see is GNU tools then gui e.g. gnome,kde etc rumpsy
[05:28] <airtonix> rww, ok ndiswrapper wont let me use promiscous mode either thanks for the clarification though
[05:28] <Mathis> noone?
[05:28] <abhi_nav> noone
[05:28] <airtonix> !anyone | Mathis
[05:29] <rumpsy> k
[05:29] <abhi_nav> you followed links, Mathis ?
[05:29] <Losha> martman: sounds like the superblock is corrupted. You may lose the data, In your place, I would try doing sudo fsck -b 8193 to use the alternate superblock (see man fsck.ext3 for details). It certainly won't hurt to try it from the live cd...
[05:29] <abhi_nav> !grub > Mathis
[05:29] <abhi_nav> !grub2 > Mathis
[05:29] <tomoj> airtonix: if you have time sometime, could you check if you have acpi-support installed?
[05:29] <Mathis> which links?
[05:29] <martman> Losha alright, guess ill ave that a shot when its done booting. thanks
[05:29] <Losha> martman: best of luck...
[05:30] <airtonix> tomoj, i do but it is limited
[05:30] <EPAstor> Having an odd issue in Lucid beta - mouse & keyboard are unable to change window in focus, including to the GNOME menus. Problem is new - started after updating packages today. Any thoughts?
[05:30] <rumpsy> that was a cool example, abhi_nav  , Psi-Jack-
[05:30] <EPAstor> More details are posted in a thread on the Lucid forums, but I was wondering if anyone here was interested.
[05:30] <Losha> EPAstor: yes, go to #ubuntu+1 where lucid is discussed...
[05:30] <Psi-Jack-> rumpsy: That wasn't an example.
[05:30] <Psi-Jack-> rumpsy: That's /exactly/ what it is.
[05:30] <rumpsy> Psi-Jack-: then
[05:30] <tomoj> airtonix: "limited"? sorry, new to ubuntu/debian
[05:30] <EPAstor> Losha: Thanks, didn't know the right channel
[05:31] <abhi_nav> rumpsy, :D
[05:31] <abhi_nav> yah Psi-Jack- is right rumpsy
[05:31] <airtonix> tomoj, well for example i dont have access to the temp readouts of my cpu through the /proc/acpi
[05:31] <tomoj> oh
[05:31] <rumpsy> Psi-Jack-: okay, that's the exact thing, even more about that, wiki can help me
[05:31] <Lance7> so going with Hardy  will work work with a core i7 cpu...
[05:32] <rumpsy> ;)
[05:32] <tomoj> I'm just wondering if that's what's handling suspend/resume now
[05:32] <martman> Losha livecd mounted it without a problem. see my files and everything
[05:32] <NetRectifier> Anyone here with netstat and nslookup
[05:32] <NetRectifier> familiar
[05:32] <airtonix> tomoj, i suspect it does in the end, but i dont think the fn + f2 calls that directly.
[05:32] <drizzt_> I'm unable to connect to Windows SMB share from linux, despite all ports opened and smbclient etc. installed, it rejects my password or give 'LOGON_FAILURE' if coneected via terminal, what can be a reson?
[05:32] <airtonix> !find xmodmap
[05:32] <rumpsy> !lucid
[05:33] <Lance7> .
[05:33] <EPAstor> !grub2 > EPAstor
[05:33] <Losha> martman: make a backup of anything on it you can't live without *immediately*, just in case the drive is starting to fail. Then unmount it and see if it passes an fsck...
[05:33] <airtonix> tomoj, i think that you will wan to investigate xmodmap or something since thats what controls those features
[05:33] <martman> Losha good idea
[05:34] <tomoj> xmodmap tells what to do on the keypress?
[05:34] <Losha> martman: been there, lost that data...
[05:34] <airtonix> tomoj, i think so, not sure
[05:34] <tomoj> or xmodmap will be able to tell me what key is actually happening when I press Fn+F1
[05:35] <onemoretime> Hi, I have a Ubuntu install.  Can I copy-paste the root of the filesystem to another hard drive, set it as bootable, then have a fully working new Ubuntu install in that new hard drive?
[05:35] <Lance7> .
[05:35] <Psi-Jack-> onemoretime: Sorta, but not just that easily. dd is your tool. Or clonezilla.
[05:36] <becker_11> I would like to set firefox to open tabs next to the parent tab instead of at the end of the tab bar does anyone know the setting for this in about:config ?? thanks
[05:36] <onemoretime> Psi-Jack-, so I just do a dd?
[05:36] <drizzt_> onemoretime, no, you'll need to tweak root partition UID
[05:36] <Psi-Jack-> onemoretime: If they're the same size HDD, it's easy, and yes.
[05:36] <onemoretime> Hmmm...
[05:37] <Losha> onemoretime: in principle you can, but it depends on how you do the 'copy-paste'. Why are you moving to a new drive exactly?
[05:37] <d_rwin> Psi-Jack-: grub edit not required?
[05:37] <Lance7> wish me luck setting up the server
[05:37] <Psi-Jack-> d_rwin: Nope. dd copies the /entire/ drive.
[05:37] <airtonix> tomoj, this might help : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=39004&postcount=10
[05:37] <tomoj> airtonix: thanks
[05:37] <Psi-Jack-> dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb
[05:37] <Psi-Jack-> Heh
[05:37] <Psi-Jack-> 100% copy.
[05:37] <drizzt_> Psi-Jack-, who tells about DD a _hard drive partition_? you'll break your partition table
[05:38] <onemoretime> Losha the current install is in a 300something GB USB hard drive (I cannot reformat it, it is my backup), but I want to put the Ubuntu on my internal hard drive. I have no CDs no USB sticks
[05:38] <greezmunkey> Psi-Jack-: I was also reading that with a few "tricks" you can dd to a larger drive, then expand the resulting partition after dd does its work.
[05:38] <Psi-Jack-> drizzt_: One can copy the first few blocks of the drive for the partition table and MBR, and dd the root partition over the new root partition.
[05:39] <Psi-Jack-> greezmunkey: Eggsnactly.
[05:39] <greezmunkey> Psi-Jack-: Xen looks amazing, still bending my mind around it.
[05:39] <Psi-Jack-> greezmunkey: Heh yeah.
[05:40] <Psi-Jack-> greezmunkey: Still makes me wonder what Canonical's thinking by going with that kvm junk.
[05:40] <Lance7> wonder if xen support OVF
[05:40] <Losha> Psi-Jack-: I would much prefer to see onemoretime partition the new drive, dump/restore the partition(s) contents to the new partitions, and then do a grub-install on the new drive...
[05:40] <noobie22692> Hey I hate to jump in and ask a random question, but how do you set your hostname as invisble on here?
[05:40] <Psi-Jack-> paravirtualization is where it's at man! kvm is /not/ paravirtualization, thus is MUCH slower.
[05:40] <abhi_nav> noobie22692, #freenod
[05:40] <abhi_nav> noobie22692, #freenode
[05:40] <Psi-Jack-> Losha: You /could/ do that as well.
[05:41] <Psi-Jack-> As usual, though.
[05:41] <noobie22692> ty
[05:41] <Psi-Jack-> More than one way to choke the same chicken. ;)
[05:41] <abhi_nav> chicken?
[05:41] <Losha> Psi-Jack-: my way makes no assumptions about the geometries of the two drives...
[05:41] <onemoretime> noobie22692,  go to #freenode and ask for a mask
[05:41] <mjwalker> noobie22692 dude this is a chanell to help each other dont forget that Ubuntu means humanity to others
[05:42] <Psi-Jack-> Losha: It doesn't matter. The data will be the same. Period.
[05:42] <abhi_nav> mjwalker, ?
[05:42] <Psi-Jack-> Losha: It'll work on a larger drive, just not smaller. ;)
[05:42] <onemoretime> You guys do the talking,I listen and my brain profits by learning :D hehe
[05:42] <casemods> when I insert the disk I just burned of ubuntu, it says "windows - no disk"
[05:43] <greezmunkey> Losha, I've used ghost to copy ntfs drives, seemed to work well. I have used dd to copy drives as well, same result. Don't both methods, dd and yours end up with a duplicated drive?
[05:43] <mjwalker> yes abhi_nav
[05:43] <Found> Holy crap this is a huge channel
[05:43] <Psi-Jack-> greezmunkey: CloneZilla is like Ghost, but free, and works better. ;)
[05:43] <abhi_nav> mjwalker, nothing. that noobie22692 just asking for mask.
[05:43] <drizzt_> I'm unable to connect to Windows SMB share from linux, despite all ports opened and smbclient etc. installed, it rejects my password or give 'LOGON_FAILURE' if coneected via terminal, what can be a reson?
[05:43] <Psi-Jack-> Found: Really? I didn't notice.
[05:43] <greezmunkey> Losha: I guess I'm looking for the reasoning?
[05:43] <Found> Oh sarcasm
[05:43] <mjwalker> abhi_nav ok
[05:43] <Found> The lowest form of wit
[05:43] <abhi_nav> mjwalker, hmm
[05:44] <abhi_nav> !language > Found
[05:44] <Found> How about no.
[05:44] <Psi-Jack-> What a rude tard.
[05:44] <Found> I didn't swear
[05:44]  * onemoretime yawns
[05:44] <airtonix> drizzt_, one thought : you have username & password matching the one you have on your ubuntu machine ?
[05:44] <Lance7> any other tips for setting up an ubuntu server to run vm's?
[05:44] <Found> All i said was "sarcasm is the lowest form of wit"
[05:44] <abhi_nav> who?
[05:44] <Found> You're the one being a jerk
[05:44] <drizzt_> airtonix, of course
[05:44] <greezmunkey> Psi-Jack-: I see that :)
[05:44] <airtonix> drizzt_, workgroups are the same ?
[05:44] <drizzt_> airtonix, yes
[05:45] <Losha> greezmunkey: I'm sure dd will work if the two drive geometries are identical. I'm much less certain if it works when they are not. My way works for all geometries, and can even be used when going from a larger disk to a smaller one, or if you want to rearrange partitions. Of course, it's also more work...
[05:45] <airtonix> drizzt_, only rejects via terminal and not via nautilus ?
[05:45] <tomoj> airtonix: heh, had to reboot after learning that the key is XF86Sleep
[05:45] <Lance7> ?
[05:46] <drizzt_> airtonix, Nautilus asking for password constantly, and smbclient gives ...LOGON_FAILURE errer
[05:46] <greezmunkey> Losha, AND - you don't have to wonder if it's going to work when you're done!   And don't use that term pejoratively, thanks.
[05:49] <Trek> Found: PLEASE don't talk like that here, bazhang and Flannel are ops and will react harshly to the language you are using
[05:49] <Found> Wow you people are worse than mormons
[05:49] <drizzt_> Connection to MSHOME failed (Error NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME)
[05:49] <airtonix> drizzt_, replacing "workgroup_name" with the one you are using of course ?
[05:49] <Lance7> reload samba if need be
[05:49] <Found> I do know better thank you very much.
[05:49] <drizzt_> those U$ pricks are obnoxious
[05:50] <Found> I've just never been in a channel where "gay" is considered a bad word
[05:50] <SolarisBoy> drizzt_: ?
[05:50] <Psi-Jack-> drizzt_: HEY!
[05:50] <Found> He quoted me
[05:50] <drizzt_> sorry
[05:50] <Psi-Jack-> drizzt_: I'm American. :p
[05:50] <SolarisBoy> me to =)
[05:50] <Flannel> Found: Using it pejoratively is offensive.  Its not profanity,there's a difference.
[05:50] <abhi_nav> Found, this is only Ubunut support channel. not offtopic
[05:50] <darth10> yummy tecate cerveza and yummy orange kush :3
[05:50] <Found> Pfft...
[05:51] <bonez2046> how can I query which wm I have running right now?
[05:51] <drizzt_> airtonix, yes, do you see I'v used \\MSHOME ?
[05:51] <Psi-Jack-> bonez2046: ps -ef
[05:51] <SolarisBoy> ps
[05:51] <airtonix> drizzt_, smbclient -L \\windows-machine-name -N gives any output ?
[05:51] <drizzt_> session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[05:52] <bonez2046> Psi-Jack-: eh? it's just lists ps output
[05:52] <airtonix> drizzt_, windows machine is xp pro ?
[05:52] <drizzt_> airtonix, yes
[05:52] <Psi-Jack-> bonez2046: Smart deduction.
[05:52] <onemoretime> So Losha *blush* What was that method that you said works better for the hard drive? Sorry, that guy was really getting on my nerves
[05:52] <Psi-Jack-> bonez2046: Your window-manager is listed in there.
[05:52] <airtonix> drizzt_, you need authentication i assume?
[05:52] <Taev> can some one here help me get my scroll wheel working on my mouse under Ubuntu 8.04
[05:52] <airtonix> drizzt_, as in you need it to keep others out?
[05:53] <sharinnegan> hi everybody
[05:53] <onemoretime> 'ewo
[05:53] <drizzt_> airtonix, that isn;t my personal computer so I cannot tweak it's security settings
[05:53] <airtonix> drizzt_, ok.
[05:53] <linux> hello
[05:54] <mjwalker1> how to login again in channel with same name
[05:54] <Losha> onemoretime: first, let me ask you some questions. Is there anything on the internal hard drive you need to preserve or are you planning to overwrite it completely?
[05:54] <Taev> so I guess no one knows how to enable my mouse's scroll wheel
[05:54] <mjwalker1> b'cause with the same name i am unable to login again
[05:54] <SolarisBoy> drizzt_: do you have a specific username that you need to specify?
[05:54] <Taev> or no one wants to help
[05:54] <onemoretime> Losha the internal hard drive can be completely wiped
[05:54] <d_rwin> mjwalker1: register your name
[05:54] <sharinnegan> i'm trying to download a file with wget bug there is a parenthesis in the URL , and i have a message "syntax error unexpected symbol ( "
[05:54] <mjwalker1> d_rwin : where to register my name
[05:54] <sharinnegan> anyone has any idea ?
[05:54] <SolarisBoy> sharinnegan: put it in quotes
[05:54] <drizzt_> SolarisBoy, yes, I;ve put my username & apss in a txt file and feed it to smbclient
[05:55] <sharinnegan> okay thanks i'm gonna try
[05:55] <SolarisBoy> drizzt_: yea i've seen that not work try with username password on command line
[05:55] <onemoretime> !register | mjwalker1,
[05:55] <Losha> onemoretime: please run 'sudo fdisk -l' <--- that's a lower case L, and paste the output into http://ubuntu.pastebin.com so we can all look at it...
[05:55] <rumpsy> hey SolarisBoy :)
[05:55] <SolarisBoy> hi rumpsy =)
[05:56] <Taev> c'mon some one at least point me in the right direction to enable my mouse's scroll wheel
[05:56] <drizzt_> nope, -U and -P lead to the same thing
[05:56] <rumpsy> SolarisBoy: so , how is your life?
[05:56] <casemods> which version of ubuntu do I need for an i686 cpu?
[05:56] <greezmunkey> sharinnegan, Hmm, I was reading about terminal settings, yikes (can't remember) anyway there is a setting that you can use to keep certain chars from killing a url - Anyone?
[05:56] <blakkheim> casemods: 32bit :/
[05:56] <SolarisBoy> rumpsy: to busy to sleep =)
[05:56] <sharinnegan> casemods, ubuntu 64 bits
[05:57] <greezmunkey> sharinnegan: I'll check FF history...
[05:57] <SolarisBoy> drizzt_: i see.. and -L produces nothing in listing shares and smbscan shows no available smb servers?
[05:57] <rumpsy> SolarisBoy: LOL , take your time to sleep
[05:57] <bsew64> anyone have a good link for installing in ubuntu 9.10   flash 64 bit version
[05:57] <sharinnegan> greezmunkey, it seems to work with quotes
[05:57] <SolarisBoy> rumpsy: i try so hard,, but ppl use cell phones as weapons
[05:57] <sharinnegan> now the url fails, unable to reach etc..
[05:58] <SolarisBoy> sharinnegan: what url has a parenthesis in it?
[05:58] <sharinnegan> unable to resolve host address
[05:58] <greezmunkey> sharinnegan: Well then, I *won't* look :)
[05:58] <greezmunkey> fail
[05:58] <ranjan> can any body can tell me how to enable windows picker on ubuntu 9.10
[05:58] <drizzt_> -L gives login error and I don't have 'smbscan'
[05:58] <rumpsy> casemods: get 64bit with bigsmp
[05:59] <casemods> so willl the i386 work?
[05:59] <SolarisBoy> i see
[05:59] <blakkheim> casemods: yes
[05:59] <casemods> ok thanks
[05:59] <sharinnegan> SolarisBoy, http://music2.synclub.ru/house/Greg_Di_Mano-Club_FG_(Radio_FG)-SAT-21-06-2008-1KING/01-greg_di_mano-club_fg_(radio_fg)-sat-21-06-2008-1king.mp3
[05:59] <SolarisBoy> drizzt_: and you dont have any access to this windows system?
[05:59] <SolarisBoy> sharinnegan: let me see..
[05:59] <sharinnegan> try a wget with it
[06:00] <bsew64> one hour up First time trying  this  we are loving ubuntu its so fast much better the centos for speed
[06:00] <rumpsy> SolarisBoy: umm, you are true, ppl nowwadays  using that as a weapon, you can switch off that...
[06:00] <SolarisBoy> sharinnegan: works fine for me in quoutes and wget
[06:00] <plustax> How would I go about adding a windows partition to my laptop here?
[06:00] <plustax> I have the windows disc
[06:00] <plustax> ready to go.
[06:00] <linux> hi
[06:00] <SolarisBoy> rumpsy: yea then my boss will kill me when i dont answer for 'escalations'
[06:00] <drizzt_> SolarisBoy, I have a user account there; and if you mean network access I can connect from Vista system
[06:00] <SolarisBoy> <-- _fail_
[06:01] <SolarisBoy> drizzt_: i would verify the cifs is working properly
[06:01] <linux> do you have any idea about forensic tools we can use in ubuntu
[06:01] <rumpsy> SolarisBoy: lol, you are in trouble, then LOL
[06:01] <rumpsy> ! forensic
[06:01] <drizzt_> plustax, which version of windows?
[06:01] <mjwalker> solarisboy tell whats u r problam
[06:01] <plustax> xp drizzt_
[06:01] <onemoretime> Losha eeemmm :) Only the USB drive partitions are showing up ^^; I'm on a liveCD, I can mount the Internal partitions but they don't show up on that command you gave me.   But it goes like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/402238/
[06:01] <SolarisBoy> linux: you can look at the knoppix STD site most of those forensic apps you can install in ubuntu
[06:01] <rumpsy> mjwalker: no he is not having any probs
[06:01] <plustax> ill just throw that on so I can actually have some webcam support. Ubuntu fails miserably at flash and webcam support
[06:01] <drizzt_> plustax, resize your linux partition and create a new one before it
[06:02] <mjwalker> rumpsy i didn't asked u
[06:02] <plustax> before it?
[06:02] <sharinnegan> SolarisBoy, your solution was the good one, i tried with another url and it works fine :) thanks a lot !
[06:02] <SolarisBoy> sharinnegan: sweetness
[06:02] <drizzt_> plustax, 3-4 GB should suffice
[06:02] <plustax> okay
[06:02] <rumpsy> mjwalker: i can answer for him ;)
[06:02] <onemoretime> Losha sorry I took so long, was trying to get it right. Hope I'm not stoping you from sleeping or something O_O
[06:02] <mjwalker> rumpsy ??????
[06:03] <onemoretime> BTW does anyone know how to disable the system beep without rebooting :P
[06:03] <SolarisBoy> rumpsy: is allowed to answer for me =)
[06:03] <mjwalker> as u wish
[06:03] <Losha> onemoretime: it *is* getting late here. When I get tired, I make mistakes. The output from your fdisk is not as detailed as I expected. Which os version are you running on your live cd?
[06:04] <rags> If a system has only ssh running as a point of access, is there really a need to install a firewall on the server? since there are no other services running..
[06:04] <SolarisBoy> afaik its rmmod pcspkr to get rid of beep
[06:04] <SolarisBoy> and blacklist it to make it persist
[06:04] <onemoretime> Losha running Crunchbang on the CD.  Go sleep if you have to x-D  Don't need a brain meltdown x-D
[06:05] <SolarisBoy> rags: can you confirm no other services are running?
[06:05] <SolarisBoy> rags: sudo lsof -i4 -n |egrep LISTEN
[06:05] <rags> SolarisBoy: Yes..well..it's an asterisk server
[06:06] <SolarisBoy> rags: well then you do have other services running,, afaik asterisk doesn't utilize only one port...
[06:06] <SolarisBoy> should your asterisk ports be wide open to the network?
[06:07] <SolarisBoy> and ssh facilitates user access, should a user be able to log in and start a listening daemon on the asterisk server?
[06:07] <Copperred> hi all
[06:07] <Copperred> i need some help upgrading 10.4
[06:07] <SolarisBoy> or should asterisk default to deny unauthorized traiffic in/out bound =)
[06:07] <plustax> i have an ubuntu machine but i want to add a windows xp partition.  Just put the disc in and add the partition that way?
[06:07] <rumpsy> Copperred: what you need
[06:07] <xangua> !lucid | Copperred
[06:07] <Losha> onemoretime: ok, For reference, I was planning to use gparted to partition the internal disk with the similar partitions as on the USB drive, and then to mount each destination partition and use dump/restore to copy each partition, one at a time, to the internal disk. Once they are all copied, you need to edit /etc/fstab and change any UUIDs in it to point to the new partitions. Lastly, do a grub-install to the new drive so it will
[06:07] <Losha> boot. Sorry to cut & run. Best of luck...
[06:08] <onemoretime> Sleep well :)
[06:08] <onemoretime> And thanks
[06:08] <SolarisBoy> rags: in general f/w never can hurt,, specially something slim as iptables/ipfw or the likes
[06:08] <greezmunkey> 'night Losha
[06:08] <Copperred> how unstable is 10.4?
[06:08] <Copperred> im just running basic stuff
[06:08] <Psi-Jack-> Copperred: Not stable.
[06:08] <Copperred> firefox thunderbird
[06:08] <theadmin> Say, will something like that in crontab work? Э@reboot truecrypt --mount /dev/sdb1"
[06:08] <Copperred> skype
[06:08] <Losha> night all...
[06:08] <bsew64> 10.04 kept crashing on me every time i clicked on a screen :)
[06:08] <Psi-Jack-> Copperred: Not on topic.
[06:08] <plustax> i have an ubuntu machine but i want to add a windows xp partition.  Just put the disc in and add the partition that way?
[06:08] <theadmin> Copperred: Do not rekomend trying it yet.
[06:08] <Copperred> ok
[06:08] <Copperred> will hold.
[06:08] <SolarisBoy> theadmin: whats that character in front of @?
[06:09] <plustax> anyone help?
[06:09] <theadmin> SolarisBoy: That was meant to be a double-quote but i accidentally clicked the layout switcher with dumb touchpad
[06:09] <rumpsy> Copperred: you need to know what is meant for unstable in ubuntu
[06:09] <SolarisBoy> ahh i see =)
[06:09] <Trek> plustax: its not that easy... if you have ubuntu, putting XP on will mess with the boot sequence and prevent boot to ubuntu
[06:09] <greezmunkey> plustax: You ...Trek - exactly
[06:09] <rags> SolarisBoy: Asterisk is listening on sip and iax port...but I also have smtp open as well...just wanted to know if a firewall is really required. Since ssh is secure by itself...
[06:10] <plustax> trek how should I go about it then?
[06:10] <plustax> im not good with gparted
[06:10] <rags> SolarisBoy: Will install a firewall anyway..:)
[06:10] <theadmin> plustax: I have a simple tutorial for you :D
[06:10] <Trek> plustax: first, why Windows?
[06:10] <SolarisBoy> rags: i would recommend it but it depedns on your requirements =)
[06:10] <plustax> trek because I cant get my webcam and flash to work properly on ubuntu with stickam
[06:10] <plustax> and its driving me nuts
[06:10] <rumpsy> depends*
[06:10] <plustax> and no one can seem to help me
[06:10] <theadmin> plustax: http://ubuntutotalnoob.blogspot.com/2010/03/getting-dual-boot-with-windows.html
[06:11] <Trek> plustax: then follow theadmin's instrucitons
[06:11] <SolarisBoy> with services like smtp asterisk and such depending on your network setup you may want to protect the boxes they run on
[06:11] <rags> SolarisBoy: Someone just asked me, if there is no firewall wht is the problem...and I din't have any explanation for tht...
[06:11] <plustax> trek unless you can help me with my issue?
[06:11] <Trek> plustax: not from here
[06:11] <rags> SolarisBoy: It's public btw...open on the internet...
[06:11] <Trek> plustax: plus I charge people for it (I do tech work in addition to university studies)
[06:11] <SolarisBoy> rags: you _need_ to have a f/w then
[06:12] <rumpsy> rags: your isp may have firewall
[06:12] <bsew64> heck finding the fire wall is tuff enough :)
[06:12] <theadmin> Firestarter ruins my connection (it dissconnects eth0 as soon as started :/) any idea?
[06:12] <SolarisBoy> rumpsy: rags even in that regards there are threats behind the firewall especially in colo setups and the likes
[06:12] <rags> SolarisBoy: but with ssh only...and rate limited..is there really a problem?
[06:12] <SolarisBoy> theadmin: why use firestarter?
[06:12] <SolarisBoy> rags: yes
[06:12] <rumpsy> oh
[06:12] <blakkheim> theadmin: just use iptables
[06:13] <theadmin> SolarisBoy: Want to block connections to certain hosts...
[06:13] <theadmin> blakkheim: Hm, good point
[06:13] <rumpsy> k
[06:13] <SolarisBoy> rags: do what blakkheim said
[06:13] <plustax> well trek i have a seemingly easy problem to fix but people have been giving me failure solutions. If I pm you my problem do you think you might be able to give me some insight?
[06:13] <plustax> I really need help :3
[06:13] <SolarisBoy> iptables is really easy if you take your time with the setup
[06:13] <Trek> plustax: is it in regards to the partitioning or something?
[06:13] <theadmin> plustax: I posted a link somewhere above on a very simple tutorial on how to make your system dual-boot with windows
[06:13] <rags> SolarisBoy: Yes...will configure Iptables...just wanted to know the threats tht I might face without a firewall...
[06:14] <SolarisBoy> rags: _ALOT_
[06:14] <theadmin> rags: Just don't be root ;)
[06:14] <rumpsy> plustax: you need to first create a space for ubuntu in your windows partion, you can resize it
[06:14] <rags> SolarisBoy: can you please give me examples...cause I can't  think of any...:(
[06:14] <plustax> trek basically, I go to stickam and the flash looks all whited-out and weird. The webcam barely works. Sometimes it displays, othertimes it doesnt. it freezes frequently and I have a problem in general getting the cam to work with flash based sites like stickam and tinychat
[06:15] <rumpsy> plustax: umm, after resize , make it as linux partition and install it
[06:15] <plustax> i dont want to resort to windows if I can find someone competent enough to help
[06:15] <SolarisBoy> rags: simple allow what you need then deny everthing else
[06:15] <sharinnegan> waouh ! i'm tired
[06:15] <exploreralex> hi, i was mailed a code written in python.. i downloaded it, whenever i click on it, it opens in gedit..how to run this code?
[06:15] <theadmin> On Windows i'm being constantly DDoS'ed for instance, on Linux even though i have no firewall it's good enough
[06:15] <sharinnegan> i'm gonna ..?
[06:15] <plustax> trek i can show you a screenshot if youd like
[06:15] <rags> because I know ppl say you need to have a firewall installed, but wht service can someone compromise...ssh can be rate limmited
[06:15] <sharinnegan> sleep ! good nite everybody ^^
[06:15] <blakkheim> exploreralex: python filehere.py
[06:15] <theadmin> exploreralex: From terminal: "python somefile.py"
[06:15] <exploreralex> ok
[06:15] <SolarisBoy> rags: you need to allow connections on loopback and you need to allow the connection you establish,, then you need to allow your service ports, then you need to deny everything else
[06:16] <rumpsy> exploreralex: make it as executable , and use this ./
[06:16] <theadmin> Or that ^
[06:16] <SolarisBoy> rags: you also need to turn on authlog and lockdown ssh,,
[06:16] <SolarisBoy> but thats just me...
[06:16] <Trek> plustax: I know exactly what you're talking about.  As far as I know, webcams + flash + Linux in general = issues
[06:16] <harishz> i have trouble installing nvidia drivers
[06:16] <harishz> can anyone help me
[06:16] <drizzt_> theadmin why do you constantly provoking flamewars?
[06:16] <theadmin> drizzt_: What?
[06:16] <Trek> plustax: but you can get your webcam to work with LInux (not necessarily flash) buy using Cheese or something
[06:16] <plustax> trek indeed. Although once upon a time a few weeks ago, someone magically got it working perfectly. Then I got a kernal update and now its bad again
[06:16] <plustax> trek yes my cam works great in cheese
[06:17] <SolarisBoy> rags: if you think you can slip by without protection turn on authlogging for a while, and look at all the funky IPs you find in your logs with your port 22 open on the net...
[06:17] <rags> SolarisBoy: ok....thx...will definitely do that...because it is a *good* practice...but wht is the *real* reason...
[06:17] <Trek> plustax: issue a bug report, maybe...
[06:17] <SolarisBoy> rags: exactly what i told you
[06:18] <rags> SolarisBoy: that will be the case with a firewall as well...cause ssh port will be open...
[06:18] <temp> hello everyone
[06:18] <Trek> plustax: I use a Windows machine for communicating with anything like microphone/headset, webcam, etc.
[06:18] <theadmin> temp: Hi
[06:18] <plustax> trek ive tried and ive gotten responses. No one does anything about it and no one can seem to fix it besides this one guy I met that I no longer know his whereabouts. Everyone else has no clue
[06:19] <theadmin> drizzt_: Will you explain what you meant or not?
[06:19] <Trek> plustax: then I don't have a solution for you at this time.
[06:19] <plustax> also that link that theadmin posted, trek i dont understand some of it :<
[06:20] <plustax> im new to linux
[06:20] <theadmin> plustax: Can explain, what exactly don't you understand?
[06:20] <plustax> MBR, how to see what partition is which
[06:20] <SolarisBoy> sudo fdisk -l
[06:20] <Trek> plustax: ask theadmin about it, i'm doing things right now relating to the business i'm part of, just alt+tabbing here occasionally
[06:20] <SolarisBoy> sudo cfdisk
[06:20] <theadmin> plustax: MBR is the first part of the disk, Master Boot Record, this is the place where bootloader resides
[06:21] <SolarisBoy> gparted
[06:21] <theadmin> plustax: You'll recognize your Linux partition by it's filesystem, it is most likely ext4
[06:21] <plustax> This will install GRUB, however, the menu files are not generated yet!
[06:21] <plustax> Step 7) Generate the menu list
[06:21] <plustax>     sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/someplace (if it's not mounted)
[06:21] <plustax> someplace
[06:21] <plustax> wtf
[06:21] <FloodBot1> plustax: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:21] <theadmin> plustax: Any existing folder actually :D
[06:21] <SolarisBoy> plustax: thats generic for anything
[06:22] <Neon0Blue> Ok I managed to get ubuntu installed and working on an xfs partition. But I need help with two things. one, only root works "normally" so only root can install stuff.
[06:22] <Neon0Blue> two, Sound doesn't work on normal account.
[06:22] <AbortD> is there a way i can give a person full root access remotely?
[06:22] <SolarisBoy>  meaning you can type 'sudo mkdir /media/someplace' amd tjem rim that command because /media/someplace then exists...
[06:22] <AbortD> i have been trying to google it with no hope
[06:23] <greezmunkey> theadmin deals plustax some hardware-fu...
[06:23] <plustax> this sucks though. Someone once helped me get this issue fixed and working. It seems lately no one here even wants to attempt it. I dont WANT to put windows on my machine if I dont have to
[06:23] <abhi_nav> hi
[06:23] <SolarisBoy> AbortD: ssh? carefully
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> AbortD:  you can always get a root shell with 'sudo -s' after you login as a normal user
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> or 'sudo -i'
[06:23] <theadmin> greezmunkey: heh what?
[06:23] <SolarisBoy> or sudo bash
[06:23] <abhi_nav> Neon0Blue, what do you mean by root works 'normally'?
[06:23] <theadmin> SolarisGuy: sudo bash is a bad idea :/
[06:23] <AbortD> im trying to have full access to my desktop from my laptop
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> sudo bash is redundant. :) use -s or -i
[06:23] <AbortD> both running gnome
[06:23] <greezmunkey> plustax: I'd love to, but have no hardware to test with at this end, sorry.
[06:24] <SolarisBoy> AbortD: graphically or terminal?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> AbortD:  clarify what you mean by 'full access' you really DONT want to run the gnome file manager as root.. ive seen people rbeak things badly that way
[06:24] <Neon0Blue> Becuase my normal account can't open the administrator window to type in the password to launch the applications that install things.
[06:24] <SolarisBoy> either or put the remote user in sudoures group
[06:24] <Neon0Blue> "sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440"
[06:24] <AbortD> i have it setup graphically now i want it terminal
[06:24] <Neon0Blue> is that helps
[06:24] <greezmunkey> theadmin: Disk partitioning knowledge
[06:24] <AbortD> i dont mind breaking my desktop
[06:24] <plustax> abortd use putty :3
[06:24] <SolarisBoy> Neon0Blue: thats the error you got?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> AbortD:   login as a user that has sudo rights.. then use 'sudo -s' (or sudo -i) is the easiset/best way
[06:25] <AbortD> hahaha i forgot about putty
[06:25] <abhi_nav> Neon0Blue, your normal account wll never be able to do admin things until you add is to sudoers list
[06:25] <Neon0Blue> That's what I get if I try to use sudo command.
[06:25] <theadmin> greezmunkey: Oh well, gparted is so simple that even my grandmother understands it (really!), while some windows partition tools are so complex that bleh.
[06:25] <SolarisBoy> Neon0Blue: do you have a root password?
[06:25] <Neon0Blue> Yes.
[06:25] <AbortD> how do i login to my desktop thats what i dont know
[06:25] <AbortD> remotely
[06:25] <Neon0Blue> I'm able to log in as root
[06:25] <SolarisBoy> Neon0Blue: switch to root and fix the file permissions
[06:25] <Neon0Blue> Of course.
[06:25] <Neon0Blue> brb
[06:25] <plustax> abortd thats not possibe.
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> AbortD:  you mean you dont know the basics of 'ssh command line ussage' ?
[06:25] <plustax> need to be logged in
[06:25] <AbortD> pretty much
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> AbortD:  what is the remote machine? what os?
[06:25] <AbortD> ubuntu 9.10
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> theres whole books written on ssh.
[06:26] <SolarisBoy> Dr_Willis: isn't that scary
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> AbortD:  install the ssh server onit.. open terminalk on local box.. ssh remoteip
[06:26] <plustax> ssh, remote desktop, vino-server.
[06:26] <plustax> tons of choices there, AbortD
[06:26] <theadmin> ssh + X forwarding = sweet, but somehow i preffer VNC...
[06:26] <snxs> AbortD  man rdesktop!
[06:26] <greezmunkey> theadmin: Someone in here actually said to me, "what part of falling off of a log don't you understand!" Really, it's all about the trying I think.
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> SolarisBoy:  almost as scary as users trying to do things without knowing the basics. :)
[06:26] <SolarisBoy> Dr_Willis: hehe =>
[06:26] <AbortD> remote desktop runs like crap
[06:26] <plustax> AbortD just forward your ports to 5900
[06:26] <DareDevil0> what does mrproper do?
[06:26] <plustax> and turn remote desktop on
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> AbortD:  perhaps you chould clarify what it is you are really trying to acomplish.
[06:27] <plustax> then do from laptop vncviewer ip in terminal
[06:27] <SolarisBoy> honestly i use -X when i need most things..you can do ssh -X back to back to back =)
[06:27] <SolarisBoy> so sweet
[06:27] <rumpsy> SolarisBoy: see pm !
[06:27] <snxs> probably not legit anyways..
[06:27] <SolarisBoy> k
[06:28] <SolarisBoy> rumpsy: got it =)
[06:28] <rumpsy> SolarisBoy: got that bye now :)
[06:28] <SolarisBoy> laters
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[06:28] <SolarisBoy> hi ActionParsnip
[06:28] <crashdata> hahaha..i think i missed something there
[06:29] <Neon0Blue> ok I fixed permissions on sudoers file.
[06:29] <SolarisBoy> Neon0Blue: and the result?
[06:29] <Neon0Blue> now sudo command works along with admin programs
[06:29] <SolarisBoy> sweetness
[06:29] <Neon0Blue> But
[06:29] <Neon0Blue> I still don't have audio on normal account
[06:29] <Neon0Blue> Only on root.
[06:29] <Neon0Blue> Any suggestions?
[06:29] <SolarisBoy> Neon0Blue: are you in the audio group?
[06:29] <Neon0Blue> ... I should be.
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> Neon0blue: run: groups ,what is output?
[06:30] <Neon0Blue> How do I check.
[06:30] <SolarisBoy> groups
[06:30] <SolarisBoy> type it
[06:30] <rags> how can I update JeOS hardy to the latest Jaunty?..Jaunty is the latest right?...aptitude dist-upgrade doesn't seem to work...
[06:30] <Neon0Blue> neon0blue adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[06:30] <Neon0Blue> ...?
[06:30] <SolarisBoy> no audio there
[06:30] <Neon0Blue> How do I add it?
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> Rags: you will get a big mess if you do. I'd suggest a fresh install
[06:31] <crashdata> Neon0Blue, type id
[06:31] <Neon0Blue> crashdata: uid=1000(neon0blue) gid=1000(neon0blue) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),115(admin),120(sambashare),1000(neon0blue)
[06:31] <SolarisBoy> id would show same groups as groups
[06:32] <Neon0Blue> How would I go about adding my account to audio group?
[06:32] <crashdata> Neon0Blue, ur not in audio group
[06:32] <SolarisBoy> Neon0Blue: usermod -a -G audio <user> i believe is the command
[06:32] <Neon0Blue> I can see.
[06:32] <Neon0Blue> lol
[06:32] <SolarisBoy> with sudo
[06:32] <rags> ActionParsnip: Oh...anyway there don't seem to be any option for me to upgrade...any reason? should I go for an update btw...the current version is updated and stable.
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> Rags: jeOS isn't supported here
[06:32] <Neon0Blue> nothing.
[06:32] <SolarisBoy> well...
[06:32] <SolarisBoy> nothing spectacular will happen
[06:33] <crashdata> Neon0Blue, yup type usermod -a -G audio <user>
[06:33] <Neon0Blue> neon0blue@neon0blue-laptop:~$ sudo usermod -a -G audio neon0blue
[06:33] <Neon0Blue> [sudo] password for neon0blue:
[06:33] <Neon0Blue> neon0blue@neon0blue-laptop:~$ groups
[06:33] <Neon0Blue> neon0blue adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[06:33] <SolarisBoy> type id again
[06:33] <FloodBot1> Neon0Blue: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> Solarisboy: I'm not in the audio group and I get sound
[06:33] <SolarisBoy> ActionParsnip: hmph.. odd
[06:33] <crashdata> you might need to exit X and relogin again for the changes to take affect
[06:33] <abhi_nav> !paste > Neon0Blue
[06:33] <Neon0Blue> http://paste.ubuntu.com/402249/
[06:34] <SolarisBoy> i figured that root had audio and he didn't it was some permission issue to the audio device?
[06:34] <Neon0Blue> Most likely.
[06:34] <crashdata> Neon0Blue, try restarting after doing that
[06:34] <Neon0Blue> I had to edit all permissions on drive so it would boot normally.
[06:34] <Neon0Blue> lol
[06:34] <Neon0Blue> Ah
[06:34] <Neon0Blue> BRB
[06:34] <FloodBot1> Neon0Blue: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> Solarisboy: sounds probable. Mind you I'm no use for sound issues.  Make sure you MD5 test it first so that you know the data is good
[06:38] <Neon0Blue> When I click sound it says "Waiting for sound system to respond"
[06:38] <Neon0Blue> But it works fine as root.
[06:38] <juno> thanks
[06:38] <SolarisBoy> Neon0Blue: what are the permissions on your audio devices and what if any messages logged when you access audio?
[06:38] <drizzt_> i;ve heard you could keylog the password input into gksudo dialog, had this been fixed?
[06:38] <Neon0Blue> How can I check the permissions on the audio device?
[06:40] <Josh90> hey everybody does any one know where i can get a 9.4 ubuntu iso from
[06:40] <billy> josh90, ubuntu.com
[06:40] <Dehivix> 2
[06:40] <Josh90> billy i can only fing the 9.10 on there
[06:40] <Dehivix> hi!!!
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> Neon0blue: http://www.google.com/m/url?cd=2&client=ms-android-tmobile&ct=res&ei=T6itS-jvB5e9jAf95LekAQ&oi=blended&q=https%3A%2F%2Flaunchpad.net%2Fbugs%2F134942&resnum=2&sa=X&source=android-home&usg=AFQjCNHtnht0IQx2AgxMVshIcbMBbwZEIQ
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> Stupid google
[06:41] <billy> josh90 what is your reason for wanting 9.4?
[06:41] <Neon0Blue> SolarisBoy: how can I check the permissions on the audio device?
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> Josh90: try searching for: cdimage jaunty 9.04 ,should give a decent result or 2
[06:41] <bigtom21485> anyone have a laptop whose internal speakers dont work when they unplug their headphones of speakers/amp?
[06:42] <SolarisBoy> Neon0Blue: oh sorry with ls -ltrh
[06:42] <SolarisBoy> Neon0Blue: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems/KarmicCaveats
[06:42] <juno> i went software  bunr  file .iso
[06:42] <SolarisBoy> take a look at these for some guidance
[06:42] <juno> i went software  bunr  file .iso
[06:42] <Josh90> billy I like 9.4 when i try and put 9.10 on there it intsalls but i can not get the internet to work untill i download the kernal for it.
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> !iso
[06:42] <ardchoille> Josh90: http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[06:42] <SolarisBoy> !burn > juno
[06:42] <juno> i do what
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> juno:  under what os?
[06:43] <Dehivix> 1
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> Juno: then use brasero or gnomeburner
[06:43] <Dehivix> 2
[06:43] <Dehivix> 3
[06:43] <Dehivix> 4
[06:43] <Dehivix> 5
[06:43] <FloodBot1> Dehivix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:43] <Psi-Jack-> Looks like the trolls are counting.
[06:43] <SolarisBoy> lol
[06:43] <Psi-Jack-> Educating themselves.
[06:43] <Neon0Blue> Wait I have an idea.
[06:43] <SolarisBoy> !!
[06:44] <Neon0Blue> I never set the permissions in the /dev folder.
[06:44] <abhi_nav> juno: you mean you 'want' to burn some iso file?
[06:44] <Neon0Blue> Could that be the problem?
[06:44] <Neon0Blue> lol
[06:44] <SolarisBoy> Neon0Blue: umm thats what i meant
[06:44] <Neon0Blue> which one is audio though?
[06:44] <SolarisBoy> Neon0Blue: ls -ltrh /dev/<sounddevice>.. and probably others.. question..
[06:44] <SolarisBoy> what did you do to your permissions in the first place>
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> Juno: windows burning will use nero or some other app, ask in ##windows for windows based cd burning
[06:45] <Neon0Blue> crw-rw----+ 1 root audio    14,   4 2010-03-26 23:35 audio
[06:45] <Neon0Blue> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root         200 2010-03-26 23:35 snd
[06:45] <Neon0Blue> Those?
[06:45] <SolarisBoy> likely
  i went burn iso to cd
[06:45] <SolarisBoy> unless your sound card creates some other pseudodevice
[06:45] <Neon0Blue> I backed up my HDD from ext3 in a tar. then extracted them to a NEW XFS partition, being sure to install grub on a 500MB EXT4 partition.
[06:45] <Neon0Blue> lol
[06:45] <juno> ok
[06:45] <SmokeyD> Neon0Blue: normally you should never touch the premissions in the /dev folder unless you messed them up before
[06:46] <Neon0Blue> so everything is under Root as owner and since it's XFS you NEED to set up the permissions for other users.
[06:46] <Neon0Blue> lol
[06:46] <SmokeyD> Neon0Blue: check if you are a member of the audio group
[06:46] <abhi_nav> juno I am not getting your problem.
[06:46] <abhi_nav> one more
[06:46] <SmokeyD> only users of the audio group can use the audio devices
[06:46] <Neon0Blue> Already did smokey.
[06:46] <SolarisBoy> Neon0Blue: wow so you in general blew all the perms away and left the data
[06:46] <SmokeyD> Neon0Blue: ok
[06:46] <Neon0Blue> somewhat.
[06:46] <Neon0Blue> lol
[06:46] <SolarisBoy> good times
[06:46] <Neon0Blue> I just wanted it to boot from xfs after that I can fuck with it till it works.
  i went burn iso to cd
[06:47] <ubuntu> I am looking for a tar.gz program that I can right click on a folder or multiple folders and create a tarball?
[06:47] <Psi-Jack-> Neon0Blue: Nice language.
[06:47] <SolarisBoy> umm really shouldn't curse... lots of different ages here Neon0Blue
[06:47] <Neon0Blue> Thank you.
[06:47] <Psi-Jack-> Neon0Blue: That means tone it down.
[06:47] <SmokeyD> ubuntu: the normal archive manager of ubuntu can do that
[06:47] <Neon0Blue> "They are words, it has no effect nor matter."
[06:47] <Neon0Blue> brb
[06:47] <Psi-Jack-> !language > Neon0Blue
[06:47]  * SolarisBoy facepalms
[06:47] <SmokeyD> ubuntu: if you right click a folder you can click compress
[06:48] <ubuntu> SmokeyD, hmm when I right click I dont see the option (should note I am in the livecd)
[06:48] <SolarisBoy> this is perfect time to go to the store bbs
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  thers proberly nautilus scripts you can use to add that feature also.
[06:48] <ubuntu> ahh lol I do see compress now oye :) thanks for the info :)
[06:49] <juno> i went burn iso to cd                 i cann't write .iso to CD
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  i got a 'compress .....' menu item here on my directories
[06:49] <ubuntu> WHat is the best compression? for lots of data
[06:49] <zus> does anyone use k mail? im having trouble with the thing remembering my 2nd g email account i keeps asking for user name and password even after i enter it and click remember password
[06:49] <ubuntu> tar bz2 or tar gz
[06:49] <Runeg> So, when I use cpufreq-selector I set it to max freq (2.20GHz) and after loading up World of Warcraft it will drop down to 800MHz after a while. Is there a way to force it to stay at 2.20GHz? (I even added a sudo 'cpufreq-selector -c 0 -f 2200000' (and -c 1) line to profile)
[06:49] <ubuntu> or other
[06:50] <iceroot> ubuntu: tar is not compression
[06:50] <shawnboy> My nephew and I both are having trouble getting DVDs to playback in Karmic. Followed some thread advice, but no success.
[06:50] <abhi_nav> !7zip > ubuntu
[06:50] <Runeg> shawnboy, look into vlc
[06:50] <passioncsu> what?
[06:50] <abhi_nav> !vlc | shawnboy
[06:50] <shawnboy> got it.
[06:50] <shawnboy> tried it
[06:50] <shawnboy> (vlc)
[06:51] <shawnboy> tried libdvdcss2
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> shawnboy:  give more details.. and less 'enter keys'
[06:51] <sometux> how to install raid drivers during installation?
[06:52] <ubuntu> alright thanks all :)
[06:52] <geoffmcc> i have seen mixed reviews as to keep apparmor enabled on ubuntu server. Should it stay or should it go?
[06:52] <skrite> shawnboy, all dvds you try messed up or will some play but not others?
[06:52] <skrite> shawnboy, by the way, my first name is shawn also  :)
[06:53] <shawnboy> sorry, Dr_Willis. VLC 1.0.2 Goldeneye doesn't play DVD. I've tried installing libdvdcss2 but that does nothing. Downloading ubuntu-restricted-extras as I type.
[06:53] <sometux> I need to install raid drivers during ubuntu installation so that it can see the disk drives. Help!
[06:53] <shawnboy> skrite, nice 1st name.  ;)  only tried one at the moment. I can grab another.
[06:53] <Runeg> If the cpufreq-selector applet isn't maintaining max cpu speed what else can you do to make it stick?
[06:55] <SolarisBoy> Runeg: sudo nohup  cpufreq-selector -c $processorIndex --governor=$governor
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> I dident think vlc needed dcss or the restricted extras.. but i alwya sinstll those anyway so not sure about that
[06:56] <SolarisBoy> where $processorIndex is the processor # and governor is the speed you would like to maintain
[06:56] <shawnboy> Dr_Willis, skrite, when I try to play in VLC, it shows the title of the DVD in the title bar (text) for a split second, then returns to nothing.
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> shawnboy:  what video is this anyway?
[06:57] <Psi-Jack-> !language > Neon0Blue
[06:57] <shawnboy> 1st: Outlaw Josey Wales. 2nd: Monty Python Holy Grail. Both original, purchased. Not copies.
[06:57] <Neon0Blue> Still no luck.
[06:57] <SolarisBoy> Neon0Blue: heh
[06:57] <Psi-Jack-> Neon0Blue: Maybe you should try soap then.
[06:57] <Neon0Blue> Nope.
[06:58] <Psi-Jack-> Liquid kind works best./
[06:58] <Neon0Blue> tried soap.
[06:58] <Neon0Blue> Soap and liquid just made me curse more when cleaning my laptop.
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> shawnboy:  the age of the things is more impiorntant. I hear some new movies have odd copy protection in them.
[06:58] <Psi-Jack-> Neon0Blue: Ya at least getting the point?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> shawnboy:  personally id just try to rip them to video  - i rarely play dvd's directly any more
[06:58] <shawnboy> Dr_Willis, these certainly aren't new.
[06:58] <Neon0Blue> Nope not getting the point.
[06:58] <Neon0Blue> But
[06:58] <Neon0Blue> "neon0blue adm dialout cdrom audio plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare"
[06:59] <Psi-Jack-> Neon0Blue: Then /part
[06:59] <Neon0Blue> I'm now in the audio group.
[06:59] <SolarisBoy> Neon0Blue: sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* /dev/seq* ?
[06:59] <bigtom21485> SolarisBoy: why do some AMd chipsets only play nice with ubuntu's feq. scaling half the time?
[06:59] <SolarisBoy> who has sound card open?
[06:59] <SolarisBoy> bigtom21485: no idea
[06:59]  * SolarisBoy has AMD
[06:59] <dukehunter> Dr. Willis: trying to play hangover dvd in vlc with same packages downloaded as shawnboy. no luck
[06:59] <SolarisBoy> =)
[06:59] <Neon0Blue> do I need the question mark in the command?
[06:59] <SolarisBoy> Neon0Blue: no
[06:59] <shawnboy> Dr_Willis, maybe this has something to do with it?... I'm told "not a real package" when I query libdvdcss2 using aptitude.
[07:00] <Neon0Blue> done.
[07:00] <Neon0Blue> now what?
[07:00] <SolarisBoy> !paste
[07:00] <SolarisBoy> Neon0Blue: paste it there whenever you need to put more than one line of output
[07:00] <Neon0Blue> ...?
[07:00] <bigtom21485> cleaning a palotp? pull the battery and power cable, then clean it with armorall cleaning wipes
[07:00] <bigtom21485> like from autozone
[07:01] <Neon0Blue> I know how to use ubuntu paste.
[07:01] <Neon0Blue> But there is no output for that command.
[07:01] <SolarisBoy> Neon0Blue: that sounds like an issue
[07:01] <Neon0Blue> http://paste.ubuntu.com/402256/
[07:01] <Neon0Blue> see?
[07:02] <SolarisBoy> yep
[07:02] <Runeg> SolarisBoy, Thank you. What does "nohup: ignoring input and appending output to `nohup.out'" mean?
[07:02] <shawnboy> skrite, so do you have dvds working on your system?
[07:02] <Psi-Jack-> Runeg: Exactly what it says, ironically.
[07:02] <SolarisBoy> Runeg: type 'ls nohup.out'
[07:02] <madPJKfan> prolly get flamed - but facebook has ceased to render properly in firefox - anyone got anything similar?
[07:02] <SolarisBoy> Runeg: then type 'cat nohup.out' where you ran that command at
[07:03] <Runeg> SolarisBoy, Gotcha. Basically it's logging the output of the command to nohup.out
[07:03] <SolarisBoy> Runeg: it runs the command without the chance of exit when you log out,, also outputs any stdout or stderr to the file nohup.out
[07:03] <SolarisBoy> Runeg: that too
[07:03] <skrite> shawnboy, i do
[07:03] <Runeg> SolarisBoy, Neato bro. Ty.
[07:03] <SolarisBoy> Runeg: np
[07:04] <skrite> shawnboy, there are some i cannot rip. newer ones with new kind of encryption
[07:04] <shawnboy> skrite, with VLC?
[07:04] <skrite> shawnboy, right, if i can't get vlc to play them, i pretty much just hang it
[07:04] <obiwan_> hi guys, i'm tryin to "end" the subject in mailx. But return just adds a new line, ^C finishes the program without sending anything, and ^D does nothing. What may i do?
[07:04] <skrite> shawnboy, hold a sec, lemme find this link that may help
[07:05] <shawnboy> skrite, ok. thanks.
[07:05] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: you can always echo "Text" | mailx
[07:05] <quizme> anybody know how to debug sound problems here ?
[07:05] <obiwan_> SolarisBoy: but what's the propper way to finish the subject prompt?
[07:05] <Psi-Jack-> quizme: What is 2+2?
[07:05] <abhi_nav> !sound | quizme
[07:06] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: i forget a "." ?
[07:06] <abhi_nav> Psi-Jack-, what goin on?
[07:06] <skrite> shawnboy, you have libdvdread3 and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly?
[07:06] <Psi-Jack-> abhi_nav: His nick said to quiz him!
[07:06] <shawnboy> skrite, I'll check really quickly. brb.
[07:06] <Psi-Jack-> :)
[07:06] <abhi_nav> ohhh I see good haa haa :D Psi-Jack-
[07:06] <obiwan_> SolarisBoy: lol, you think a dot will work? haha well gotta try hehe
[07:06] <skrite> shawnboy, wait, libdvdread4, not 3
[07:06] <angela_> hello all ware ken i fint help for the config of ngircd ?
[07:06] <obiwan_> SolarisBoy: nope it didn't work :P
[07:06] <ynk> is the archive manager unable to unzip ".rar" files? what do i do in that case?
[07:07] <Bsew64> is there a link by chance for getting flash 64 bit working in 9.10
[07:07] <shawnboy> skrite, I have the ugly one, but any of the libdvd packages I'm told "not a real package"
[07:07] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: maybe its here http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/mailx.html
[07:07] <Runeg> SolarisBoy, Hm, not sticking.
[07:07] <SolarisBoy> Runeg: argh
[07:08] <Runeg> SolarisBoy, It drops down to lowest, and slowly creeps up, then creeps down.
[07:08] <skrite> shawnboy, on 9.10?
[07:08] <obiwan_> oh lemme read thanks SolarisBoy
[07:08] <shawnboy> 9.10, yes, skrite
[07:08] <SolarisBoy>  Runeg that sounds like ondemand setting is default
[07:08] <skrite> shawnboy, what do you get when you do this?     sudo apt-get install libdvdread4
[07:09] <Runeg> SolarisBoy, I'm using the -c $cpuNumber -f 2200000
[07:09] <shawnboy> skrite, I read in one thread something about adding medibuntu repo? but I'd never heard of that before so I didn't (yet).
[07:09] <SolarisBoy> Runeg: i would use governor
[07:10] <skrite> shawnboy, you used to have to add a repo, but now more of the packages with codecs are available in stock Ubuntu
[07:10] <SolarisBoy> Runeg: governor=performance
[07:10] <Runeg> SolarisBoy, Okay I'm using that now. Will report back shortly.
[07:10] <SolarisBoy> in fact i do use governor on my AMD and it sticks
[07:10] <SolarisBoy> k
[07:10] <skrite> shawnboy, you tried to install libdvdread4?
[07:10] <shawnboy> skrite, "already newest version" and "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, 3 not upgraded"
[07:10] <bengkel_iman> sd
[07:11] <skrite> shawnboy, did you do this? sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[07:11] <SolarisBoy> there is a script you used to have to r...
[07:11] <SolarisBoy> skrite: exactly.. =)
[07:11] <shawnboy> no. shall I do that (/usr/share...) now, skrite ?
[07:11] <skrite> shawnboy, yes, do that now
[07:12] <Runeg> SolarisBoy, Any experience with NVidia PowerMizer?
[07:12] <SolarisBoy> nope
[07:12] <Runeg> SolarisBoy, Dropped to 800mhz while still on Performance.
[07:13] <Runeg> SolarisBoy, nohup cpufreq-selector -c 0 --governor=Performance
[07:13] <SolarisBoy> Runeg: not to be a nag but as per man
[07:13] <SolarisBoy> CPU governor to use, such as ``powersave'', ``performance''.
[07:13] <shawnboy> skrite, it did a bunch of stuff. Selecting previously deselected package libdvdcss2
[07:13] <SolarisBoy> so possibly lose the caps?
[07:13] <obiwan_> oh SolarisBoy it actually worked, i just realised i get the same messages with dot enabled. The thing is it says it sends it but it doesn't
[07:13] <obiwan_> SolarisBoy: maybe i should open ports in nat table?
[07:14] <shawnboy> skrite, and something about medibuntu. No success in VLC though. I wonder if it requires a restart?
[07:14] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: ummm
[07:14] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: why?
[07:14] <Runeg> SolarisBoy,
[07:14] <Runeg> SolarisBoy, nohup cpufreq-selector -c 0 --governor=Performance
[07:14] <obiwan_> SolarisBoy: dunno, just to try. fact is in my gmail tray i got no new messag
[07:14] <Runeg> Er. Wrong clipboard.
[07:14] <Runeg> SolarisBoy, nohup cpufreq-selector -c 1 --governor=performance &
[07:14] <SolarisBoy> Runeg: exactly
[07:15] <Neon0Blue> I'm still lost with my audio. It works just fine when I'm logged in as root. but as normal it doesn't.
[07:15] <Runeg> SolarisBoy, Still at 800MHz
[07:15] <SolarisBoy> Runeg: hmm
[07:15] <skrite> shawnboy, ok, do this http://pastie.org/889490
[07:15] <Runeg> SolarisBoy, 9.04 x64 SMP
[07:15] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: whats your task again?
[07:15] <skrite> shawnboy, let me know what you get in the terminal
[07:16] <SolarisBoy> Runeg: maybe some discrepency between that CPU and the cpufreq?
[07:16] <Runeg> SolarisBoy, It's rated for 2.2 GHz.
[07:17] <obiwan_> SolarisBoy: what task? i'm just trying to send a message to my mail account heeh
[07:18] <shawnboy> skrite, 1st one said "already newest version"
[07:18] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: ok that shouldn't have anything to do with nat .. 'sudo iptables -t nat -nvL' i dought there is anything there
[07:18] <skrite> shawnboy, ok, and the next?
[07:20] <shawnboy> skrite, second one is at http://pastie.org/889491
[07:20] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: what the issue may be if you are sending to gmail is.. have you setup a smarthost in sendmail to use gmail smtp?
[07:20] <skrite> shawnboy, cool, restart vlc and try it out
[07:21] <Runeg> SolarisBoy, Any suggestions at this point?
[07:21] <SolarisBoy> Runeg: not sure about it
[07:21] <shawnboy> closed VLC, restarted VLC... no success.
[07:21] <SolarisBoy> Runeg: google
[07:21] <shawnboy> skrite, reboot maybe?
[07:21] <skrite> shawnboy, damn
[07:21] <obiwan_> SolarisBoy: i don't have nat tables in use hehe
[07:21] <skrite> shawnboy, should not need a reboot
[07:21] <obiwan_> SolarisBoy: i just use the forward default table
[07:21] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: i figured as much
[07:21] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: thats what i thought
[07:21] <obiwan_> i meant in the router hehe
[07:22] <obiwan_> i'm behind a router
[07:22] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: ohhhh ok
[07:22] <skrite> shawnboy, run vlc from a terminal, if it fails, check the terminal for error output
[07:22] <obiwan_> and no, i didn't setup any smarthost SolarisBoy :P
[07:22] <BigUrsis> In 9.10 is there an easy way to rate limit an entire interface say eth0 or wlan0? (My pptp vpn allways fails once I go above ~2mB/s) ufw can rate limit individual ports, I was wondering if there was a way to limit the whole interface?
[07:22] <skrite> shawnboy, should have a statement why it fails
[07:22] <shawnboy> skrite, I typed "vlc" at terminal and it started.
[07:23] <shawnboy> skrite, not the DVD.
[07:23] <SolarisBoy> well .. i dont think this should be an issue in the same.. as long as you are sending mail.. now to receive through the routers nat table is different,, but the default on your router should be to allow traffic established from your lan
[07:23] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: if its gmail + sendmail you need a smarthost and couple other things setup for that to work,,
[07:23] <skrite> shawnboy, right, now in that instance of VLC that you ran from the terminal go to file => open => disc, etc... see if it fails and if the terminal has any error outbput
[07:24] <SolarisBoy> shawnboy: if you feel you packets are being dropped by a ACL simply do sudo tcptraceroute <mailserverip> <mailserverport> (not sure if your doing plain smtp or smtps)
[07:24] <greezmunkey> Is "System/Preferences/Remote Desktop" where I would allow VNC connections?
[07:24] <obiwan_> oh SolarisBoy :( i thought mail installed all those things by itself hehe
[07:24] <SolarisBoy> umm not shawnboy sorry obiwan_
[07:25] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: well your mail client needs to know where to send mail,, alternatively you can simply use webmail
[07:26] <stefg> greezmunkey: http://www.debianadmin.com/remote-desktop-sharing-in-ubuntu.html
[07:26] <nullbeat> Hello, maybe someone here would be able to help me. I am having trouble configuring the touchpad on my Macbook Pro 3,1 to act similar to how it performs under OSX. I have read and tried numerous configuration methods in order to bend it to my will, but they have not worked thus far. Right now, I have a new install of Xubuntu, and have not tried to configure anything on this install.
[07:26] <shawnboy> skrite, http://pastie.org/889496
[07:26] <obiwan_> SolarisBoy: i found a guide on the inet thanks for all the help :)
[07:27] <greezmunkey> stefg: Looking now, thanks.
[07:27] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: np
[07:28] <BigUrsis> nm, think wondershaper might work.
[07:28] <nullbeat> I have tried gsynaptics under the regular Ubuntu flavor, and that didn't really seem to get close enough.
[07:28] <obiwan_> SolarisBoy: i see i got installed exim so i actuall y have a smtp handler hehe
[07:29] <madPJKfan> is there a good way to upgrade firefox in karmic?  out of the box, ubuntu seems to want to forbid it...
[07:29] <madPJKfan> ?
[07:29] <obiwan_> so i don't get what's the  prob
[07:29] <quizme> abhi_nav thanks
[07:29] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: well still in all you need a _relay_
[07:29] <hazizi> helloo
[07:30] <hazizi> other than webmin , is there other web manage for ubuntu server ?
[07:30] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: sendmail/exim/postfix all the same deal if you need to send to gmail you need to set some smarthost relay saying that
[07:30] <greezmunkey> stefg:    :0  I forgot to put :0 after the IP address :0
[07:30] <obiwan_> SolarisBoy: what do you mean with a relay?
[07:30] <nathanbdot> Hey there :) How can i figure out if my processor is capable of 64-bit?
[07:30] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: relay=mailserver accepting mail for your friends domain
[07:30] <shawnboy> any ideas, skrite ? I don't see anything that makes sense to me except it seems it's not getting the key to decrypt the DVD.
[07:31] <nullbeat> The main issue I'm having with is it is not sensitive enough on the pressure aspect. I have to press down relatively harder under Ubuntu.
[07:31] <obiwan_> but SolarisBoy i don't want a esrver accepting mail from my friends domain, i just want to _send_ out hehe, it's just a test
[07:31] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: you really dont need a mail server you need to configure the mail client to use gmail relay server and to authenticate how google expects you too
[07:31] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: exactly
[07:31] <skrite> shawnboy, reading up on that particular error
[07:31] <zus> does anyone use chrome and video downloader? it said installing themes and extensions can harm my computer, i did it anyway... then the pop up window said this extension can access my browser history, wich i read in a thread it should not, by the developer himself.. is this normal?
[07:31] <shawnboy> skrite, I'm going to reboot out of desperation in case it may help. I'll brb.
[07:32] <hazizi> zus: normal
[07:32] <greezmunkey> stefg: nice, thanks :)
[07:32] <obiwan_> SolarisBoy: i always use evolution or the webmail, i just want to learn to send mails with mailx hehe
[07:32] <obiwan_> but SolarisBoy do i need to authenticate?
[07:32] <danx> zus: of course it can access your browser history; if you want to browse privately use the spy-browsing feature
[07:33] <zus> hazizi,  thank you. i did install anyway from the google.org page. but the harmming my pc was a bit  unsettleing
[07:33] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: for gmail yes and for most mail servers yes less its an open relay
[07:33] <skrite> shawnboy, ok
[07:33] <obiwan_> SolarisBoy: isn't it possible to say mailx to put<EMAIL_ADDRESS>as the sender ?
[07:33] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: if your box knows how to get there yes
[07:33] <zus> danx,  thanks is that in chrome? or an addon?
[07:33] <danx> zus: they have to make that statement so it's harder for you to sue them :P
[07:33] <SolarisBoy> and that domain has a valid mx record
[07:34] <zus> danx, hah! makes me feel better
[07:34] <danx> zus: it is in Chrome, go to the little wrench icon (options) on top-right corner and then click on "New Incognito window"
[07:34] <zus> danx,  im new to chrome will that remain any time i use it or do i have to aply everytime
[07:35] <Tatzelbrumm> Question: I have downloaded some FPGA tools from Altera and Xilinx, and some of the packages want me to include their .../bin directory in the path. What's the best way to include directories in the search path 1) for one user only? 2) for everyone/a user group??
[07:35] <danx> zus: you have to do it everytime you want to go incognito
[07:35] <Flynsarmy> I have wifi and ethernet enabled on my ubuntu box - it appears to b giving dns lookup priority to the ethernet...how can i fix this? if the DNS is cached it seems to load the page fine
[07:35] <danx> zus: and remember that new window will be the private-browsing one only, always check the title bar, it will have a spy-like character
[07:35] <SolarisBoy> Tatzelbrumm: set them in the profiles ... /etc/profile would be global ~/.bashrc or the likes would be per user
[07:36] <zus> danx, PERFECT!!! really??!
[07:36] <shawnboy> skrite, I'm back. Reboot didn't solve anything.
[07:36] <zus> danx,  that makes me happy
[07:36] <hazizi> zus: ok bro
[07:36] <danx> zus: yeah it's pretty neat I love that icon, reminds me of the spy vs spy series
[07:38] <zus> danx love spy vs spy
[07:39] <zus> danx,  no way in making it default? to open incognito?
[07:39] <Tatzelbrumm> SolarisBoy: thanks for the prompt reply ... before I do it that way: I've seen in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2793 a recommendation to use /etc/environment instead. As usual with unix, the question isn't just: What works? but also: Which of the half dozen ways to make it work is most compatible to how ubuntu is set up to work?
[07:40] <SolarisBoy> Tatzelbrumm: i think your right environment works on ubuntu
[07:40] <stefg> Tatzelbrumm: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Path-14.html . You might consider putting their bin-files in /usr/local/bin
[07:40] <SolarisBoy> i may be porting /etc/profile from some other distro or OS =) use to many
[07:40] <danx> zus: I don't know, it's probable; I haven't browse the entire options in Chrome; sometimes is useful to accept (and store) cookies and historial
[07:41] <obiwan_> sry SolarisBoy my connection droped
[07:41] <SolarisBoy> i see
[07:41] <obiwan_> SolarisBoy: you were saying that i still need to use a smart host
[07:41]  * zus smiles
[07:41] <SolarisBoy> no i thought you wanted to send to gmail specifically
[07:41] <zus> danx,  thanks again soverymuch
[07:42] <obiwan_> but i said, isn't it possible to put just a sender address in the mail heaer SolarisBoy ?
[07:42] <Tatzelbrumm> stefg: Tried that first thing ... but the tool is expecting a configuration script in a path relative from the executable, or the symbolic link to it. Details ...
[07:42] <obiwan_> SolarisBoy: i mean, without actually logging in any mail server
[07:42] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: i dont think your quite understanding how smtp works
[07:42] <obiwan_> SolarisBoy: yeah is hould read some rfc's hehe
[07:42] <Tatzelbrumm> SolarisBoy: Which environment is the right one? - that's the hard question.
[07:43] <danx> zus: no problem
[07:43] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: client -->smtp--> mail server --> x amount of mail servers --> inbox <--imap/pop <--client
[07:43] <ynk> How do I make VLC my default player?
[07:43] <stefg> Tatzelbrumm: so you have to put it either in /etc/environment (global) or add it to users ~/.profile
[07:43] <shishirdwivedi20> how can i make ubuntu my default operating system?
[07:43] <SolarisBoy> stefg: precisely
[07:44] <hazizi> shishirdwivedi20: format it
[07:44] <shishirdwivedi20> hazizi i want both of them
[07:44] <danx> shishirdwivedi20: install the "startupmanager" package, it adds a GUI to edit GRUB options, you can set it there.
[07:45] <shishirdwivedi20> danx ok
[07:45] <hazizi> shishirdwivedi20: o, mybe u can try vmplayer
[07:46] <dehivis> hola
[07:46] <danx> ynk: System - Preferences - Prefered applications (multimedia tab)
[07:46] <obiwan_> SolarisBoy: that is, mail user agent ( client) > smtp (mail transfer agent) - > server chain ->final server . So when i type an address, it resolves its host server ip, and then the mail user agent just submits it to the mail transfer agent (exim in my case) which just sends it isn't it this way?
[07:46] <danx> dehivis: hola! para soporte en español, escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin las comillas)
[07:47] <Tatzelbrumm> stefg, SolarisBoy : real n00b question: is there a way to put comments into /etc/environment, so I know afterwards how I changed the file and why?
[07:47] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: as i said i thought you wanted gmail which is why i explained those other things
[07:48] <SolarisBoy> else yes that should work given that domain you send mail to is accepting mails and has a mx record
[07:48] <stefg> Tatzelbrumm: ... the usual way : # This is a comment
[07:48] <Tatzelbrumm> stefg: Thanks!
[07:48] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: just telnet to the mailrelay and see  heh
[07:48] <shishirdwivedi20> danx i downloded the startup manger what to do now?
[07:49] <shishirdwivedi20> danx how to open it there is no option for that
[07:49] <danx> shishirdwivedi20: open it, it is under System - Administration
[07:49] <SolarisBoy> Tatzelbrumm: # is comment
[07:49] <obiwan_> ok SolarisBoy :)
[07:49] <shishirdwivedi20> danx ok done
[07:49] <obiwan_> is it fine to telnet mail.google.com  SolarisBoy ?
[07:49] <shishirdwivedi20> danx what next
[07:49] <danx> shishirdwivedi20: if you don't have a launcher there, press ALT+F2 and type "startupmanager" (no quotes) and hit enter
[07:49] <obiwan_> or will it consider it an attack SolarisBoy ?
[07:49] <obiwan_> *em
[07:49] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: so is this at gmail or not obiwan_ ?
[07:50] <danx> shishirdwivedi20: select your desired options, is not that hard...
[07:50] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: if not dont fool with gmail servers im not sure what they would take that as, you wont get anywhere without STARTTLS anyway
[07:51] <shishirdwivedi20> danx  yeah i selected ubuntu but there is no option like apply or ok should i simply close the window?
[07:51] <danx> shishirdwivedi20: yes just close it, it will configure GRUB automatic
[07:52] <shishirdwivedi20> danx ok than for help
[07:52] <obiwan_> it is SolarisBoy
[07:52] <shishirdwivedi20> danx thanx
[07:52] <danx> shishirdwivedi20: no problem
[07:52] <shawnboy> I give up on getting DVDs to play. If you're there, skrite , thanks for trying to help.
[07:52] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: if the mail account _IS_ gmail just follow this http://www.phinesolutions.com/sendmail-gmail-smtp-relay-howto.html
[07:53] <danx> shawnboy: did you install libcss?
[07:53] <obiwan_> SolarisBoy: ok, i'll try to explain myself better: i got a gmail account. I'm just tryint to email my own account from terminal, to know how mailx works so i know how to send mails to other people from terminal
[07:53] <SolarisBoy> and i dont know exim well so not sure sendmail is a client and server so. not sure if exim is
[07:53] <shawnboy> danx, I sure did. libdvdcss and libdvdread4
[07:53] <stefg> !medibuntu | shawnboy
[07:53] <skrite> shawnboy, what other media players have you installed?
[07:53] <obiwan_> alright thanks SolarisBoy :)
[07:54] <SolarisBoy> obiwan_: ok then thats similar to what i do.. you need to configure your mail client to use gmail smtp relay this requires authentication,, forget about exim and follow that link
[07:54] <danx> shawnboy: you don't really need to add medibuntu's repos; did you install the whole ubuntu-restricted-extras package?
[07:54] <shawnboy> skrite, worthless movie player. danx: I did install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:54] <skrite> danx, shawnboy right, ubuntu-restricted-extras  first thing i install after installing ubuntu
[07:55] <skrite> hmmm
[07:55] <skrite> shawnboy, fresh install?
[07:55] <SolarisBoy> brb
[07:55] <danx> shawnboy: did you install libcss with "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh" ?
[07:55] <shawnboy> danx, skrite , I was downloading extras when I first joined chat. it finished, I rebooted just in case, and no success.
[07:56] <danx> shawnboy: after restricted-extras, install libcss with "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh" (no quotes) in your terminal.
[07:56] <shawnboy> danx: yes, after skrite told me too (although I've no idea how someone would know to do that. It still didn't fix dvd playback.
[07:56] <danx> shawnboy: sorry sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[07:57] <shawnboy> danx: I did that sh command except with libdvdread4. is there a difference?
[07:57] <danx> shawnboy: make sure you type libdvdread4, I pasted it wrong the first time; most docs are old
[07:57] <shawnboy> danx: ah. already did that then.
[07:57] <ynk> danx, when i try to set the default VIDEO app, it only shows AUDIO default... :(
[07:57] <danx> shawnboy: yes there is a big difference, you are installing with libdvdread4 (the current version) not 3 which is rather old
[07:58] <shawnboy> danx: results from that I put at http://pastie.org/889491
[07:58] <danx> shawnboy: what application are you using to play DVD's?
[07:58] <shawnboy> VLC 1.0.2 danx
[07:58] <stefg> shawnboy: have you already tried some CD or other optical medium? maybe it's just the drive missing from you /etc/fstab (type 'grep scd /etc/fstab' and see if it yields somrthing)
[07:59] <shawnboy> danx: trying 2 old ones. Outlaw Josey Wales and Monty Python Holy Grail
[07:59] <shawnboy> stefg: yep, I have actually played blu-ray discs in my blu-ray optical everything drive.
[08:00] <danx> shawnboy: you added medibuntu's repositories, I don't know what they install and what they don't; you don't need them, the packages you need are already in Multiverse repo; if you insist in using medibuntu's repos google for medibuntu's documentation
[08:00] <zus> danx,  does chrome save bookmarks for offline viewing as read it later addon for firefox does? (this is a real make or break for me)
[08:00] <shawnboy> stefg, i typed that anyway and it showed up fine.
[08:00] <Taev> Can some one help me enable my mouse's scroll wheel on Ubuntu 8.04 ?
[08:00] <stefg> shawnboy: did it have UDF in it ?
[08:00] <shawnboy> danx: if I added medibuntu repos I wasn't aware.
[08:01] <shawnboy> stefg: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[08:01] <stefg> shawnboy: that'S correct
[08:01] <danx> zus: yes, they added that functionality not long ago
[08:02] <danx> shawnboy: yes you did, read the first two lines on the pastebin you sent me.
[08:02] <shawnboy> danx: can I NOT use medibuntu if I don't need it? At this point I've tried everything I can come across.
[08:02] <zus> danx,  again my thanks....i may use fire fox less and less...(though i love it)
[08:02] <Taev> Anyone?
[08:02] <Taev> my damn scroll wheel doesn't work.
[08:03] <shawnboy> stefg, danx, results from running VLC from terminal then trying DVD yield: http://pastie.org/889496
[08:03] <danx> ynk: right click a file you want to associate with VLC, select open-with and then select VLC, that kind of files will be opened with VLC now; for DVD's go to System - Preferences - Removable Drives and Media; then go to Multimedia tab and change it.
[08:04] <stooj> Uhm... I have an ext4 volume and every single file on it has disappeared. Folders are still all there, but the files are all gone. Can anyone tell me what might have happened, or whether the files are recoverable or not?
[08:04] <danx> zus: yes, Chrome is really good, Firefox is too heavy in my opinion. XUL really bloats it
[08:05] <danx> zus: plus javascript engine in Chrome is really really fast, Firefox is slow compared to it. I also like the way it manages RAM, I feel a better result/performance.
[08:05] <stefg> shawnboy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1220584 which links to http://shibuvarkala.blogspot.com/2009/04/howto-make-ubuntu-904-jaunty-jackalope.html
[08:05] <jenue> !help
[08:05]  * SolarisBoy eats butterfinger
[08:06] <zus> danx,  thinking as going all google kinda...i mean... there wave gmail chromium  - though i dont think ill use thier OS
[08:06] <ynk> danx, thanks pal.
[08:08] <gharz> guys, i've installed ubuntu using wubi and the other day i re installed my windows... my problem now is that ubuntu says missing hal.dll whenever i run ubuntu. i've noticed that the partition numbering has been changed. any idea how to fix this?
[08:08] <danx> ynk: no problem
[08:08] <shawnboy> looking now stefg .
[08:09] <zus> danx im thinking on google wave
[08:09] <ynk> danx, actually.. i'm unable to see the "Removable Drives and Media" under "System > Preferences".
[08:10] <danx> zus: Yes, Chrome (and Chromium, the project Chrome is based on) is very neat; wave is in theory very good but in reality I very seldom use it; their OS is netbook-oriented imo. I hope Epiphany improves and gets better than Chrome though =P but right now Chrome/Chromium is very superior.
[08:11] <danx> ynk: they probably removed the option (I'm using an older version of Ubuntu right now); anyways you should be able to choose when you insert a DVD and the application-selection window pops up
[08:14] <JC> ola
[08:14] <JC> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[08:14] <JC> como estais
[08:14] <shawnboy> I'm wearing out on this DVD problem. Thanks again for attempting to help skrite stefg danx.
[08:14] <DasEi> JC: got a question ?
[08:14] <JC> what?
[08:14] <ynk> danx, fair enough i guess. i have not used Karmic until now. I was stuck with Hardy due to hardware issues.
[08:14] <DasEi> !support | JC
[08:15] <eeeekyellowsnow> anyone knows conky here? conky is on all windows right after i did a system update,,,, how do i fix this? or reverse it
[08:15] <JC> ola
[08:15] <JC> asssssssssssssssssss
[08:15] <JC> asasas
[08:15] <JC> purki
[08:15] <DasEi> JC: please stop
[08:15] <JC> where is your car?
[08:16] <DasEi> eeeekyellowsnow: you can set it on the conf or simply purge and re-install if you used the default settings
[08:17] <DasEi> eeeekyellowsnow: sudo apt-get remove --purge conky && sudo apt-get install conky
[08:17] <lhl_henrylui> Has anyone tried chrome OS on Ubuntu?
[08:18] <eeeekyellowsnow> DasEi: ahhh okidoo imma try that
[08:18] <danx> lhl_henrylui: I tried an old version of it in Virtual Box
[08:18] <lhl_henrylui> I intend to try it on Ubuntu
[08:19] <danx> lhl_henrylui: on a virtual machine I presume
[08:19] <DasEi> lhl_henrylui: will work in vb
[08:20] <lhl_henrylui> I've also tried it in Sun virtual box and it worked, but quite slow.
[08:21] <Schmitty> use vmware in an esxi host. use supermicro twinblade server
[08:21] <DasEi> lhl_henrylui: specs of your box, especially ram ?
[08:21] <Flynsarmy> I have wifi and ethernet enabled on my ubuntu box - it appears to b giving dns lookup priority to the ethernet...how can i fix this? if the DNS is cached it seems to load the page fine
[08:21] <danx> lhl_henrylui: it is "normal" for it to run slow, it is still in development, they need to optimize it; but giving 512+MB of RAM to your Virtual Machine is adviced.
[08:22] <lhl_henrylui> I've tried a few hundreds of MB(more than 512Mb)
[08:22] <Robert__> will i notice the speed difference between xfce and gnome on dual core 64 bit system with 4gb ram?
[08:22] <greezmunkey> Flynsarmy: Are both interfaces configured for the same subnet? Common gateway?
[08:22] <Schmitty> has anyone threw ubuntu on the new up touchscreen pcs?
[08:23] <danx> Robert__: yes, you will noticed it, but not THAT much if is Ubuntu-Xubuntu
[08:23] <DasEi> Robert__: mseconds
[08:23] <Flynsarmy> greezmunkey: i added the gateway to the wifi but left ethernet on <IP_ADDRESS> so in the network manager widget in panel it shows wifi instead of ethernet. if i add gateway to ethernet it puts ethernet icon in the panel
[08:23] <DasEi> Robert__: but it depends how many services, pids are running at all
[08:23] <Robert__> lets say lots lol
[08:23] <Robert__> DasEi, lets say lots
[08:23] <DasEi> Robert__: wm's like icewm or lubuntu make a - slight on that hw - difference
[08:24] <Flynsarmy> greezmunkey: wifi is giving me internet. ethernet is just for transferring files between pcs. it seems that if the dns is cached it loads teh website fine - using the right adapter to load the page but it just cant get the
[08:24] <danx> Robert__: if you want to make it run faster try Slackware with xfce; it's the fastest distro-configuration I've tested.
[08:24] <Robert__> i'll stick with the *buntus
[08:24] <Flynsarmy> greezmunkey: - dns lookup through the wifi
[08:25] <greezmunkey> Flynsarmy: Did you set NM up the share the Wifi with the Eth?
[08:25] <danx> Robert__: yeah *buntus are the best :) (for me at least)
[08:25] <Flynsarmy> greezmunkey: your typical noob here. dont even know what NM is :(
[08:25] <greezmunkey> Network Manager
[08:25] <DasEi> Robert__: good aproach is to use minimal cd and only install stuff you want, the surface, if capable hw (graphics!) is presumed, doesn't change much in the ghz-area
[08:25] <greezmunkey> my bad
[08:26] <Flynsarmy> greezmunkey: I'm not sure what you mean. Neither connection is shared i don't think?
[08:27] <Runeg> SolarisBoy, Back. Testing a few different things but I think it is something you hinted at: Thermal.
[08:28] <tay-family-linux> Hi ...
[08:28] <greezmunkey> Flynsarmy: Ok for now, if you did sharing would probably not work without some tweaking anyway.
[08:28] <tay-family-linux> I need some help with my ubuntu
[08:28] <tay-family-linux> I just bought a new mp4 player
[08:28] <tay-family-linux> samsung yp m1
[08:28] <Guest43378> hello
[08:28] <danx> tay-family-linux: Hey, and welcome. just ask your question.
[08:28] <Flynsarmy> greezmunkey: on windows i changed hte metric and everything worked. this doesn't appear to be available on ubuntu
[08:28] <tay-family-linux> it could mount and interact
[08:29] <Flynsarmy> greezmunkey: also i gave the ethernet connections diff subnets to the wifi connections
[08:29] <tay-family-linux> but the problem is when I tried to transfer some files
[08:29] <tay-family-linux> when I transfer some files more than a few mb I guess...
[08:29] <danx> tay-family-linux: try to type your question in one single line; it's hard to read your question when you use Enter as punctuation (not to mention you may get kicked off the channel).
[08:29] <tay-family-linux> the file operation would run and then stop there
[08:29] <tay-family-linux> oh....sry
[08:30] <greezmunkey> Flynsarmy: hmm, have to think about that one a minute, it's late here.
[08:30] <Guest43378> new with ubuntu, in windows I cant see the ubuntu partition, is something wrong?
[08:30] <tay-family-linux> now I am trying to transfer a file more than 300MB a video and it transfers to 65.7MB and hangs there
[08:30] <stooj> tay-family-linux: No. Windows cannot see ext3/4 partitions
[08:31] <Guest43378> partition magic?
[08:31] <zamba> stooj: sure it can?
[08:31] <zamba> http://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/
[08:31] <zamba> for instance
[08:31] <danx> Guest43378: It is normal, Windows can't see *nix filesystems by default, there applications that allows you to do it though.
[08:31] <stooj> zamba: Yeah, sure
[08:31] <stooj> zamba: I meant by defailt
[08:31] <stooj> *default
[08:31] <zamba> oh
[08:32] <greezmunkey> Flynsarmy: Edit your wired interface in NM, in IPV4, choose method:local link only and see what happens
[08:32] <gregor_> I need help with Evolution. I can see e-mails (IMAP) but i cna not send them (SMTP). In Thunderbird i needed o set gate 26, is there a way to set it in evolution?
[08:32] <tay-family-linux> erm...stooj... I am asking about why my file transfer to my mp4 player would transfer half way and hang
[08:32] <eeeekyellowsnow> hey what is the keyboard shortcut to have a sneak peak at the desktop??
[08:32] <eeeekyellowsnow> without minimizing everything
[08:33] <danx> tay-family-linux: ask again, but very please, in one line only.
[08:34] <danx> eeeekyellowsnow: the Print Screen one.
[08:34] <tay-family-linux> ok danx. I just bought a Samsung YP M1 media player. When ever I try to transfer video or media files it would transfer half way in the files operation and hang. Why is that so
[08:35] <Flynsarmy> greezmunkey: selecting that item from the drop down greys out the IP settings (so i cant use a static IP). It connected after a while however on a diff subnet mask to the one i was using...Wifi is working now so that's a good sign.
[08:35] <Flynsarmy> greezmunkey: is there a way i can use a static IP with this method?
[08:35] <danx> eeeekyellowsnow: ooh I thought you meant screenshot, it is Ctrl+Alt+D and press again to bring your windows back; there are other options in Compizconfig-settings-manager though
[08:36] <greezmunkey> Flynsarmy: Set your winbox to dhcp, see what happens
[08:36] <hylman> hi all
[08:36] <eeeekyellowsnow> danx: heh allrighty, thanks
[08:36] <hylman> i'm currently using UNR, but I want to switch to normal desktop.. how can I do that?
[08:36] <hylman> i'm using 9.10 btw..
[08:36] <eeeekyellowsnow> got me confused there for a second
[08:37] <danx> tay-family-linux: if it is a very large file, it is because the filesystem of your device doesn't allow very large files transfers, you can try split it in smaller pieces and then paste them together within your device.
[08:37] <Dr_Willis_> hylman:  install ubuntu-desktop package for starters. and I think you then have to disable a few startup items to get a normal gnome desktop
[08:37] <shawnboy> danx, skrite, stefg, guess what... I tried 8 different DVDs. All relatively old. ONE played in VLC.
[08:38] <Dr_Willis_> hylman:  ive seen UNR forum threads on this topic.  theres no  easy way to switch from one to the other with a single click sadly (not yet at least)
[08:38] <hylman> Dr_Willis_: do you know which "few startup items"
[08:38] <Flynsarmy> greezmunkey: not sure how to do that - although i set to static IP on windows box with same subnet mask and a specific ip and looks like both pcs are working perfeclty now - other than the fact that the linux box uses a dynamic ip. i just need it to be static
[08:38] <Dr_Willis_> hylman:  they are mtnioned in the forums. maximus is one
[08:38] <Dr_Willis_> hylman:  i find i much perfer the Kubuntu Netbook edition :)
[08:38] <hylman> Dr_Willis_: any link to UNR forum?
[08:39] <Dr_Willis_> hylman:  nope. go to the ubuntu forums and search
[08:39] <greezmunkey> Flynsarmy: how many PCs on the Ethernet side?
[08:39] <hylman> Dr_Willis_: thx
[08:39] <danx> tay-family-linux: read this links they will help you if you want to use the method I told you (there are other methods though, but I'm "old-school"): http://www.computerhope.com/unix/usplit.htm http://www.computerhope.com/unix/ucat.htm
[08:39] <Flynsarmy> greezmunkey: just the 2 although i'll probably be adding the ps3 and 360 eventually. it uses a switch
[08:39] <developer> hi how to use rdekstop to launch a single application
[08:39] <greezmunkey> Flynsarmy: I can lab that here, give me about 5 minutes...
[08:39] <danx> shawnboy: what are the old titles VLC couldn't play?
[08:40] <pawel> speak polish?????
[08:40] <danx> !polish | pawel
[08:40] <pawel> ktos tu nawija po polsku
[08:40] <ana_> ola
[08:41] <shawnboy> danx, Blazing Saddles, Christmas Vacation, It's a Wonderful Life, So I Married an Axe Murderer, Glengarry GlenRoss, Blast From the Past, Outlaw Josey Wales.
[08:41] <danx> ana_: olla gente! portugues? español?
[08:41] <danx> shawnboy: it's weird VLC didn't play them, I'll check it out; have you tried mplayer?
[08:42] <shawnboy> danx: I tried them all in VLC and Mplayer. Mplayer wouldn't play any. Error cracking code on all of them except Diana Krall Concert in VLC.
[08:42] <pawel> POLAND?????
[08:42] <danx> !polish | pawel
[08:42] <ana_> algien es de españa?
[08:42] <pawel> no nareszcie ktos
[08:42] <harishz> can anyone help me with installing nvidia drivers
[08:42] <ortsvorsteher> !es
[08:42] <shawnboy> danx: I can understand one here and there not playing, especially brand new ones, but this is ridiculous.
[08:43] <danx> ana_: si quieres soporte en español, ve al canal en español con: /join #ubuntu-es yo estoy allí.
[08:43] <danx> shawnboy: yes, it is very unusual
[08:43] <danx> !polish > pawel
[08:44] <ana_> bueno xao
[08:44] <danx> ana_: escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin las comillas)
[08:44] <harishz> can anyone please help me with installing nvidia drivers
[08:45] <greezmunkey> Flynsarmy: Question, do you need the Ethernet PC to access Internet through teh Ubuntu box?
[08:45] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | harishz
[08:45] <Flynsarmy> greezmunkey: no. 1 win, 1 linux pc both use wifi to get internet. the ethernet is only used to transfer large files quickly to each other
[08:46] <danx> harishz: open a Terminal (Aplications - Accessories - Terminal) and type: jockey-gtk
[08:46] <harishz> i lost network connection while installing nvidia drivers when i was at 50%.
[08:47] <harishz> after that i am not able to install it.  I get to see the downloading popup at 50% completion
[08:47] <harishz> i have uninstalled and tried to reinstall...but it is still the same
[08:47] <danx> harishz: give it time to finish, the completion bar is kinda buggy
[08:48] <harishz> danx, as soon as i launch the click for download through envyng, the download bar automatically reaches 50% and doesnt move from there
[08:48] <danx> harishz: you can try "sudo dpkg-reconfigre -a" if it doesn't work after a reasonable time span (~7 mins)
[08:48] <harishz> it hangs there...i dont think it is downloading
[08:48] <harishz> danx, thanks. i will try that
[08:50] <litropy> OT: peeps, what's the action verb for when your eyebrows make the worry shape? in other words -- furrow : concentrate :: ? : worry
[08:51] <talntid> I have $20 for anyone who can help me connect my ubuntu machine to a remote VPN tunnel. I have access on the remote host, the server I want to VPN from, and a laptop with a working VPN that I would like to reproduce. Any takers?
[08:52] <knoppies> talntid, I would be interested in knowing how to do that, but I normally offer my help for free.
[08:52] <talntid> I normally help everyone for free too - but lately, nobody seems to know how to do this, or they just don't care to help :(
[08:53] <Lcawte> Where's your firefox cache/temp internet files stored?
[08:53] <talntid> someone helped me with it a while back, and it only took him a few minutes to get it working on my laptop - i can't seem to reproduce his results. maybe someone else can help.... he's not available anymore
[08:53] <harishz> danx, i still have the same problem
[08:54] <talntid> knoppies, have you got any experience doing this? :)
[08:54] <harishz> the download window is not moving any further
[08:54] <talntid> pptp vpn tunnel
[08:54] <greezmunkey> Flynsarmy: you there?
[08:54] <greezmunkey> lo
[08:54] <Flynsarmy> greezmunkey: yep
[08:54] <knoppies> talntid, unfortunately not. I would like to know how to do it though.
[08:55] <talntid> darn
[08:55] <talntid> i have a 100% working example to go from
[08:55] <talntid> but can't reproduce the "client" side of it
[08:55] <talntid> even though it's 100% working on my laptop.
[08:55] <greezmunkey> Flynsarmy: you there?
[08:56] <pk__> how do i search files in ubuntu
[08:56] <Flynsarmy> greezmunkey: yep
[08:56] <vick_1188> hi can any one tell me , how to install the packages from tar file on ubuntu
[08:56] <Dr_Willis_> vick_1188:  tar is normally source not a 'pacakge' -  You would compile source
[08:56] <vick_1188> i'm having tar file of eclipse
[08:56] <Dr_Willis_> vick_1188:  it totally depends on what the tar file is exctly
[08:56] <Dr_Willis_> No  idea on eclipse. Neverusedit
[08:56] <vick_1188> so now i want to install them
[08:57] <vick_1188> can anyone tell me that
[08:57] <Dr_Willis_> Theres proberly PPA's for newer version of eclipse.
[08:57] <Flynsarmy> greezmunkey: did you figure it out?
[08:57] <ravibn> switch10 : are u still available?
[08:57] <pk__> i am not able to search a file from nautilus search
[08:58] <greezmunkey> Flynsarmy: yeah, that's a problem. I'd have to look into the details of NM, but I experience the same thing that you did. I think "local link " is the way to go, but I'd have to read up on it.
[08:58] <vick_1188> talntid: will u help me
[08:58] <vick_1188> ??
[08:58] <abhi_nav> vick_1188, first untar it
[08:59] <vick_1188> plz tell me how to compile
[08:59] <abhi_nav> As per my memory I just typed something for you
[08:59] <vick_1188> i've done "untar"
[08:59] <abhi_nav> hmm
[08:59] <harishz> i lost network while installing nvidia drivers thru envyng.  the download was at 50%...now when i try  installing the drivers..i get to see the same popup
[08:59] <vick_1188> abhi_nav: i've done untar
[08:59] <harishz> and the download doesnt proceed any further..
[08:59] <Flynsarmy> greezmunkey: oh well, you got me almost there. thanks for the help :)
[09:00] <abhi_nav> vick_1188, hmm ok now see if there is any file name eclipse or something like that on clickin that file you should able to run program Eclipse
[09:00] <harishz> how do i install the nvidia drivers now
[09:01] <vick_1188> ok let me check
[09:01] <abhi_nav> hmm
[09:01] <danx> harishz: you can try installing the driver from nvidia.com
[09:02] <greezmunkey> Flynsarmy: Yea, I have to read up on it...
[09:02] <greezmunkey> gotta go now...
[09:03] <vick_1188> "eclipse-modeling-galileo-SR2-incubation-linux-gtk.tar.gz" is the file
[09:03] <vick_1188> i've done "untar" using archive manager
[09:03] <abhi_nav> set ban on Davydavid, !ops he pm me and talked with abusive words
[09:03] <abhi_nav> !ops see above
[09:03] <abhi_nav> !ops
[09:03] <vick_1188> it has opened the untarr-ed content then it's giving me window like folders
[09:03] <abhi_nav> vick_1188, yah I know
[09:04] <jussi01> abhi_nav: ??
[09:04] <abhi_nav> vick_1188, hmm ok now see if there is any file name eclipse or something like that on clickin that file you should able to run program Eclipse
[09:04] <vick_1188> abhi_nav:
[09:04] <ReekenX> pk_: What problems do you have with searching files?
[09:04] <abhi_nav> jussi01, he pm me and talked with very abusive words
[09:04] <abhi_nav> jussi01, he still doing that in my pm
[09:04] <abhi_nav> jussi01, ban him
[09:04] <vick_1188> abhi_nav: it has opened the untarr-ed content then it's giving me window like folders
[09:05] <jussi01> abhi_nav: pm abuse needs to be reported to #freenode. thers little I can do.
[09:05] <abhi_nav> jussi01, cant you ban him?
[09:05] <estela> ola
[09:05] <jussi01> abhi_nav: yes, but that wont help with the PM's...
[09:05] <Dr_Willis_> there is some Mode you can set on yourself to auto-ignore non-regged users..
[09:05] <jussi01> !modes
[09:06] <abhi_nav> Dr_Willis, jumbers I set him on /ignore but still he is able to pm me and doing that thing continuesly
[09:06] <estela> how old are you
[09:06] <jussi01> !ot | estela
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> abhi_nav:  i forget the special mode. E or R or somthing
[09:06] <estela> cuantos años tienes
[09:06] <jussi01> !es | estela
[09:06] <stevecam> i seem to have a mental blank, what do i use for sudo in X applications
[09:06] <abhi_nav> ok let me as in freenode
[09:06] <jussi01> stevecam: gksudo
[09:06] <abhi_nav> thankyou Dr_Willis and jussi01
[09:07] <pk__> abhi_nav : let him handle that
[09:07] <abhi_nav> pk__, let who?
[09:07] <stevecam> jussi01, that's it, i was trying to type gksudo
[09:07] <pk__> Davydavid
[09:07] <pk__> i am busy in chat with him :P
[09:08] <pk__> he is a good passtime
[09:08] <om26er> pk__: this is a support chanel please keep it that way
[09:08] <talntid> I have $20 for anyone who can help me connect my ubuntu machine to a remote VPN tunnel. I have access on the remote host, the server I want to VPN from, and a laptop with a working VPN that I would like to reproduce. Any takers?
[09:08] <vick_1188> yes
[09:09] <talntid> Only client side needs to be setup
[09:09] <LinuxGuy2009> If I used an external USB drive as a repository source do I need an fstab entry or would it be ok without one?
[09:09] <JoshuaL> talntid, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[09:10] <talntid> JoshuaL, I'm not the type to ask a question without looking for the answers alone first. I am not successful in getting it to work.
[09:10] <talntid> so, I'd like someone to assist me in getting it to work.
[09:10] <JoshuaL> talntid, what have you tried and what didnt work? :)
[09:11] <talntid> installed pptp, connected to the server, but could not ping anything on the server's network.
[09:11] <vick_1188> would any one help me too.??
[09:11] <talntid> it appeared as if the machine i was trying with, had the exact same configs as my VPN-working laptop... but it did not act the same.
[09:12] <talntid> route -n was identical too
[09:12] <vick_1188> i want to know , how to compile and install the package from source???
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> !compile
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> LinuxGuy2009:  you proberly want a fstab entry so the thing gets mountd at boot time.
[09:13] <abhi_nav> vick_1188, you there? I am back. so what hapends?
[09:13] <talntid> JoshuaL, just that I get to a certain point, and support stops. nobody wants to answer. I understand its all voluntary, so I don't complain. Just would like to get it working so I can learn what I am doing wrong, so I can reproduce it
[09:13] <stevecam> hmm, is there a way to run nautilus with root privileges
[09:13] <LinuxGuy2009> Dr_Willis: Ok well the reason I asked is because I wont have the drive plugged in all the time. Only be plugged in right before i install something offline.
[09:14] <LinuxGuy2009> Dr_Willis: So you would say an fstab entry is needed?
[09:14] <talntid> stevecam, sudo nautilus ;)
[09:14] <JoshuaL> talntid, i never used a vpn so i cant help you sorry, you might also try and ask on the forums :)
[09:14] <abhi_nav> vick_1188, here
[09:14] <abhi_nav> vick_1188, you there? I am back. so what hapends?
[09:15] <talntid> thats the general answer ;)
[09:15] <KatieKitty> hi everyone!
[09:15] <ReekenX> Hi :)
[09:16] <bbalajirao> while upgrading from ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04, the Update manager dies. What could be wrong? Help would be appreciated.
[09:16] <KatieKitty> just wanted to know, have the design team decided to put the window control button back to the right side or not?
[09:16] <ynk_> how do i install a ".bin" file?
[09:17] <abhi_nav> ynk_, double click on it
[09:17] <JoshuaL> talntid, not sure but maybe the reply to the first answer on this page helps: http://serverfault.com/questions/70188/pptp-on-ubuntu-server-cant-ping-other-machines-on-the-lan
[09:17] <vick_1188> yes,how can i get my eclipse environment working from the tar file of around 352 mb?
[09:17] <LinuxGuy2009> bbalajirao: I almost always do clean installs to avoid stuff like that.
[09:17] <abhi_nav> vick_1188, hmm so you ddnt find any file which opens eclipse program?
[09:17] <vick_1188> ok done
[09:17] <vick_1188> abhi_nav: then?
[09:17] <ynk_> abhi_nav, says "unknown type file could not be displayed."
[09:18] <abhi_nav> vick_1188, done what? did you find any such file y/n?
[09:18] <abhi_nav> ynk_, then it probaly is not .bin file
[09:18] <vick_1188> abhi_nav: no
[09:18] <vick_1188> i don't find any file
[09:18] <rubydiamond> guys how to isntall sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts
[09:18] <mandar> how to install drivers on ubuntu?
[09:18] <vick_1188> which run y environment
[09:18] <rubydiamond> on ubuntu jaunty
[09:18] <rubydiamond> it's not able to install
[09:18] <abhi_nav> oh sorry ynk_  i dont know i forgot tht you are talking about .bin i thought that you wre talknig abotu. deb
[09:18] <rubydiamond> it's saying package not found
[09:18] <rubydiamond> halp
[09:18] <FloodBot1> rubydiamond: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:18] <LinuxGuy2009> rubydiamond: all repos enabled?
[09:19] <abhi_nav> vick_1188, go to the folder where you have this eclipse untar from command prompt
[09:19] <ReekenX> mandar: System > Administration > Hardware drivers
[09:19] <ynk_> abhi_nav, no problem.
[09:19] <talntid> JoshuaL, been there ;) thanks though
[09:19] <rubydiamond> LinuxGuy2009: I have not disabled any
[09:19] <abhi_nav> ynk_, hmm
[09:19] <LinuxGuy2009> rubydiamond: Thats not what i asked.
[09:19] <vick_1188> tell me the command
[09:19] <Ciro> hi
[09:19] <abhi_nav> vick_1188, cd <path>
[09:19] <ReekenX> rubydiamond: run apt-get update before installing somethinf
[09:19] <vick_1188> i don't know the syntax
[09:19] <om26er> !hi | Ciro
[09:19] <ReekenX> rubydiamond: run apt-get update before installing something
[09:19] <Ciro> Alguem BR ai?
[09:19] <LinuxGuy2009> rubydiamond: make sure all required repos are enabled.
[09:19] <Ciro> Alguem BR ai?
[09:20] <Ciro> Alguem BR ai?
[09:20] <rubydiamond> ReekenX: I have done that
[09:20] <FloodBot1> Ciro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:20] <rubydiamond> yeah
[09:20] <vick_1188> ok
[09:20] <ReekenX> rubydiamond: have you checked repositories list?
[09:20] <mandar> how to do voice chat in ubuntu?
[09:21] <JoshuaL> talntid, what about: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=824881&highlight=vpn+ping
[09:21] <abhi_nav> mandar, you are using which im client?
[09:21] <rubydiamond> LinuxGuy2009: how to enable all repositories
[09:21] <talntid> that's openVPN, not pptp
[09:21] <rubydiamond> looks like I have enabled restricted repositories only.
[09:21] <talntid> different clients
[09:21] <LinuxGuy2009> rubydiamond: system->admin->software sources
[09:22] <rubydiamond> LinuxGuy2009: I am using slicehost slice
[09:22] <rubydiamond> I can't access gui
[09:22] <JoshuaL> talntid, im sorry :)
[09:22] <LinuxGuy2009> rubydiamond: sun-java6-plugin is in multiverse
[09:22] <talntid> don't be :)
[09:23] <rubydiamond> LinuxGuy2009: what are the lines to add in sources.list for installing sun-java
[09:23] <JoshuaL> talntid, what tutorial did you use? (if you used any at all)
[09:23] <talntid> i had a friend set it up originally.
[09:23] <vick_1188> abhi_nav: i'm in the eclipse folder now
[09:23] <Dominate> i have a quick question...i just started using irssi and i can not get it to switch between windows meaning...when i type in pm it can still be seen in main chat...and vice versa
[09:24] <JoshuaL> talntid, a post on the forums says this tutorial might help: http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/routing.phtml#client-to-lan
[09:24] <abhi_nav> vick_1188, now type ./configure
[09:24] <talntid> unfortunately, he's no longer with us :(
[09:24] <LinuxGuy2009>  rubydiamond: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main universe restricted multiverse
[09:24] <JoshuaL> talntid, im sorry to hear that
[09:24] <LinuxGuy2009>  rubydiamond: You did say jaunty correct?
[09:25] <vick_1188> abhi_nav: no such file or directory
[09:25] <Dominate> do i need to do something in synaptics?
[09:25] <Dominate> I S R CONFUSED
 i am using pidgin
[09:25] <Dominate> so do i
[09:25] <abhi_nav> vick_1188, can you imagebin the contents of your ecliple untar folder? please?
[09:25] <Dominate> i want to know how i can go between windows in terminal with irssi...
[09:25] <abhi_nav> mandar, click on conversationos then media then there is option of audio, vidoe etc click on then and you are done
[09:25] <mandar> ho to do voice chat?
[09:25] <mandar> how to do voice chat?
[09:26] <om26er> Dominate: you mean tabs?
[09:26] <Dominate> well
[09:26] <Dominate> yes
[09:26] <Dominate> om
[09:26] <Dominate> in a way
[09:26] <FloodBot1> Dominate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:26] <Dominate> this is the problem
[09:26] <Dominate> this is the problem
[09:26] <rachid> how is the deamwaver of linux ?
[09:26] <om26er> Dominate: never used irssi :)