[12:12] <christian23nv> _
[12:12] <Jucato> !br | christian23nv
[12:12] <ubotu> christian23nv: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:12] <coyotle>     ?
[12:12] <adydas> !api
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about api - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <adydas> !apimissmatch
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apimissmatch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <adydas> !nvidia
[12:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:13] <Schuenemann> !es | christian23nv
[12:13] <ubotu> christian23nv: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:13] <juano> christian23nv:
[12:13] <juano> como estas
[12:13] <juano> volviste ??
[12:14] <juano> christian23nv: unete a #kubuntu-es
[12:14] <juano> Jucato: thats spanish not portuguese, dont be insulting :P
[12:14] <Jucato> didn't know
[12:15] <juano> Jucato: :P
[12:16] <adam_> hey, has anyone got kvm working on edgy?
[12:17] <adam_> i got the source and compiled it, but im having errors with modprobe trying to stick the module in the kernel
[12:18] <BluesKaj> !pt | juano
[12:18] <ubotu> juano: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:18] <Schuenemann> lol
[12:18] <BluesKaj> hehe
[12:18] <Schuenemann> is ubotu a female?
[12:18] <flipstar> lol
[12:18] <Cavallito> lol
[12:18] <juano> BluesKaj: well, another ET
[12:18] <NightBird> Schuenemann, if you're desperate... maybe...
[12:18] <BluesKaj> never know these days
[12:18] <juano> BluesKaj: its spanish not portuguese
[12:19] <Schuenemann> NightBird, not that, he says "obrigada"
[12:19] <Schuenemann> only females say that
[12:19] <BluesKaj> juano, why would you be insulted ? :)
[12:19] <NightBird> what about neither male nor female?
[12:19] <juano> not insulted
[12:19] <juano> i mean dont be a sucker and learn something out of your own country
[12:19] <BluesKaj> neut bot
[12:20] <BluesKaj> ??
[12:20] <juano> :P
[12:20] <Schuenemann> juano, he just confused languages, what's wrong about that?
[12:20] <Schuenemann> and besides, pt and es look a lot like each other
[12:20] <adydas> ok i need to fix this today, ive installed my nvidia drivers changed x11conf and booted, Nvidia splash screen comes up and the cards all working, BUT when i reboot i get a screen error and to regain X im forced to change nvidia to nv OR re install the nvidia.run drivers then it works ok again UNTILL reboot.
[12:20] <juano> Schuenemann: well if im not sure, i wouldnt give a german a french help chat
[12:20] <BluesKaj> yeah, i d like to see  you tell the diff between swedish and danish , juano
[12:20] <juano> Schuenemann: thats my point
[12:21] <adam_> alt tab away for a second and a whole bunch of messages pop up, lol
[12:21] <juano> BluesKaj: lol, but i dont recomend channels to danish or swedish
[12:21] <Schuenemann> well, he tried helping
[12:21] <juano> BluesKaj: i know, im teadsing ya , dont get upset
[12:21] <juano> teasing*
[12:21] <daleach> is everyone havign trouble with us.archive.ubuntu.com or just me?
[12:21] <daleach> are there mirrors?
[12:21] <juano> BluesKaj: its just a silly joke :P im bored hehe
[12:22] <BluesKaj> not to worry , i raised 4 kids like you :)
[12:22] <cox377> has there been an update to kde or something, because things feel faster for some unbeknown reason
[12:22] <juano> BluesKaj: hahahahah
[12:22] <juano> BluesKaj: lol
[12:22] <Sanne> daleach: generally, <countrycode>.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:22] <juano> BluesKaj: kids ? how old are you ?
[12:22] <daleach> GULP
[12:22] <daleach> is canada ca? hehe
[12:22] <BluesKaj> 63
[12:22] <BluesKaj> yup
[12:23] <Schuenemann> juano, french and german are very different, your example was poor :p
[12:23] <Sanne> daleach: I think so, try ;)
[12:23] <daleach> i can just use theirs i guess
[12:23] <daleach> hehe
[12:23] <adam_> has anyone got kvm working on edgy?
[12:23] <Sanne> daleach: of course. Or mine, de ;) (a bit far, I guess)
[12:23] <juano> Schuenemann: well it was an example :P, and portuguese and spanish are a hell a lot different
[12:23] <juano> Schuenemann: i can tell you that :P
[12:23] <daleach> i never had this issue with debian
[12:23] <angasule> juano: naah, they're not very different
[12:23] <Schuenemann> not THAT different
[12:23] <christian23nv> jauno
[12:23] <christian23nv> juano
[12:24] <juano> angasule: yes they are
[12:24] <angasule> juano: no seas pesado, te digo que no :P
[12:24] <juano> angasule: heheh claro que si :P, solo estoy tratando de que aprendan algo :P
[12:24] <Schuenemann> !pt | juano
[12:24] <ubotu> juano: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:24] <juano> lol
[12:24] <Schuenemann> oops
[12:25] <Schuenemann> :D
[12:25] <adam_> guess no
[12:25] <adam_> not*
[12:25] <angasule> Schuenemann: he's from uruguay, they speak spanish
[12:25] <juano> !fr | Schuenemann
[12:25] <ubotu> Schuenemann: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:25] <daleach> hahaha
[12:25] <Schuenemann> angasule, I was just kidding :)
[12:25] <juano> Schuenemann: lol
[12:25] <angasule> ah :P
[12:25] <christian23nv> juano can u help me_
[12:25] <juano> Schuenemann: liked that ? i bet they get really angry in germany when they speak french huh ?
[12:25] <juano> Schuenemann: hihihi
[12:25] <Schuenemann> well, I don't
[12:26] <juano> christian23nv: sure go into #kubuntu-es
[12:26] <juano> Schuenemann: or better off, when they THINK you are french
[12:26] <Schuenemann> nobody will listen to a german and think he's a french
[12:26] <ochemsucks> hey does anyone know how to change the xf86audiomedia button in kubuntu? its assigned to launch amarok and it was a default setting. couldnt find anything in forums.
[12:26] <Sanne> juano: angry? Why? Confused maybe, but not angry.
[12:26] <MeTa> !nvidia
[12:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:27] <juano> Sanne: hehe, well i thought they got angry, its what it seemed though, my mom is been to germany , she told me that happened oftenly
[12:27] <Sanne> juano: lol, that's quite funny ;)
[12:27] <juano> Sanne: its normal though, since they have tons of imigrants and with all that radical stuff and etc.
[12:28] <juano> Sanne: well anyway, this is way to off-topic LOL
[12:28] <juano> so Sanne , Schuenemann , and angasule , please, lets discuss ubuntu
[12:29] <Sanne> juano: right (just wanted to point out that I'm german, in case you didn't get that ;)
[12:29] <angasule> naaah
[12:29] <juano> that goes for me too
[12:29] <Schuenemann> where? in #ubuntu-fr ?
[12:29] <Sanne> hahaha
[12:29] <juano> Sanne: hehe :P , yes i know, i know you are with those names lol, specially Schuenemann
[12:30] <Sanne> :)
[12:30] <Schuenemann> I'm not german
[12:30] <Schuenemann> I'm from Brazil
[12:30] <juano> well you have a german last name in case you didnt notice
[12:31] <Schuenemann> oh, I haven't noticed it
[12:31] <Schuenemann> :p
[12:32] <juano> well then , better off leaving this issue beside then, if you didnt know that
[12:34] <sb9> im currently installing httpd - is there a default where the daemon looks for httpd.conf ?
[12:34] <sb9> cannot find this option in the stratup script ?
[12:34] <juano> Jucato: i hope you didnt get upset :P, i was joking
[12:35] <flipstar> any1 knows how to set up an bnc/proxy for Konversation???
[12:37] <sb9> got it
[12:37] <christian23nv> juano
[12:37] <christian23nv> como llego al canal de kubuntu-es
[12:38] <adam_> sorry to repeat myself but has anyone got kvm working on edgy?
[12:38] <christian23nv> como llego al canal de kubuntu-es
[12:39] <christian23nv> juano estas ahi
[12:39] <christian23nv> ?
[12:39] <christian23nv> ahora si
[12:39] <christian23nv>
[12:39] <christian23nv> el teclado funciona
[12:40] <Chousuke> christian23nv: This channel doesn't speak spanish
[12:40] <Schuenemann>  /join #kubuntu-es
[12:40] <LeeJunFan> !es
[12:40] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:40] <xyverz> hey, quick question - is there a way to have kubuntu pick the generic kernel over the 386 kernel, so I can enable smp support?
[12:41] <scoates> hello
[12:42] <flipstar> hello
[12:42] <scoates> when I enable xinerama, my primary display is mostly black (I can see cursors) and my 2ndary display behaves poorly (mostly only window shadows, but I do see widgets for s aplit second after I mouseover). Help?
[12:42] <scoates> nvidia
[12:42] <flipstar> did u installes all drivers correctly?
[12:43] <adydas> ok i need to fix this today, ive installed my nvidia drivers changed x11conf and booted, Nvidia splash screen comes up and the cards all working, BUT when i reboot i get a screen error and to regain X im forced to change nvidia to nv OR re install the nvidia.run drivers then it works ok again UNTILL reboot.
[12:43] <scoates> flipstar: I think so. nvidia-settings works for other X modes (just not xinerama)
[12:43] <flipstar> hm u can check it with 'fglrxinfo'
[12:44] <SatanMonk> Hello
[12:46] <troxor> scoates: why not use twinview instead of xinerama?
[12:47] <troxor> adydas: did you install via adept/synaptic?
[12:47] <scoates> troxor: because it stretches the task bar very poorly
[12:47] <scoates> and dialogs pop up in the middle of 2 screens
[12:47] <scoates> and my desktop icons aren't contained properly
[12:47] <scoates> etc
[12:47] <xyverz> anybody know how I can set the generic kernel as my default, system-wide (instead of having to edit the grub config every time I do a dist-upgrade?)
[12:48] <troxor> xyverz: what if you removed the other one?
[12:48] <xyverz> instead of the 386 kernel
[12:48] <milos83> hi people! can someone plase tell me how to install window decoration on kubuntu 6.06 ?
[12:49] <xyverz> troxor: would you believe me if I told you I'd never thought of that?? >.<
[12:49] <troxor> xyverz: absolutely not... j/k ;)
[12:49] <adydas> troxor: via apt-get i did nvidia-glx
[12:49] <adydas> the rest was via nvidia.coms driver .run file
[12:50] <troxor> adydas: do you have nvidia-kernel-common too?
[12:50] <BluesKaj> xyverz, you can edit grub , but i forgot the cmds
[12:50] <adydas> thats where im not sure
[12:50] <adydas> its a fresh install
[12:51] <troxor> adydas: use the nvidia.run to remove the drivers it installed,  and then subsequently do an apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common
[12:51] <adydas> troxor:
[12:51] <SatanMonk> Does anyone have any leads on the "tty; jobcontrol turned off" issue?
[12:51] <adydas> i allready ahve that ( its the newest version )
[12:52] <xyverz> BluesKaj: I was hoping to not need to edit grub every time
[12:53] <scoates> back later. I'll check the log if someone says my name
[12:53] <troxor> adydas: iirc, the .run and the packages installed via apt(nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common)  serve the same purpose, so it's usually best to completely remove the files installed by the .run, and use the ones via apt
[12:54] <troxor> xyverz: you can also use savedefault in grub too
[12:54] <adydas> i installed the apt-get glx and common before i did the .run
[12:54] <adydas> but why dopes that stop it working after a reboot
[12:54] <adydas> the drivers are live, i x11 and run it works
[12:54] <adydas> i reboot and it fails
[12:54] <bxnp> is there a upgrade to kde 3.5.6 for dapper
[12:54] <xyverz> troxor: oooooh!  I knew it was there somewhere!
[12:54] <xyverz> thanks
[12:54] <troxor> adydas: the modules on your drive are probably different from the ones in memory
[12:55] <troxor> so when you reboot, the ones on your drive are loaded (broken), and the ones from memory(working) are nowhere to be found
[12:55] <adydas> ah that does make sense, but why and more importantly how do i fix it
[12:55] <troxor> xyverz: np
[12:55] <SatanMonk> Is FeistyFawn more stable at the moment?
[12:56] <troxor> SatanMonk: where do you get that jobcontrol message?
[12:56] <SatanMonk> I get it when I reboot
[12:56] <troxor> what stage?
[12:56] <SatanMonk> I'm using my winblows box right now, because my linux is unusable
[12:57] <SatanMonk> I'm using Edgy 64 kernel 2.6.17-11
[12:58] <SatanMonk> I get all the way to the Kubuntu splash screen then I get sh: can't access tty; jobcontrol turned off
[12:58] <SatanMonk> with (initramfs) prompt
[12:58] <SatanMonk> I have been reading the forums like mad.. the only connection I can seem to find is that most of "us" that have this problem are running the 64 bit ver. didn't know if it was a bug
[01:00] <troxor> SatanMonk: do you know how to modify the grub boot line?
[01:00] <troxor> adydas: there should be a switch you pass to the .run file, to make it uninstall
[01:01] <SatanMonk> can't quite remember no.. I haven't used linux since debian 2.12
[01:01] <SatanMonk> thought that I would give it a go again.... lol
[01:01] <troxor> adydas: then, apt-get remove --purge nvidia-* to completely get rid of the driver packages.. (and of course back up any configuration files you may have edited manually, as --purge will destroy them)
[01:02] <troxor> adydas: then, just reinstall them with apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common (iirc, that should all work)
[01:02] <adydas> did i point out that it moans about a kernel modul miss match for some version
[01:02] <adydas> this will fix that?
[01:03] <troxor> SatanMonk: in the grub menu, hit 'e', then select the kernel line, hit 'e' again... there should be a root=<hex garbage>. just change that to your partition name, like hda1 or such
[01:03] <troxor> SatanMonk: then, hit b to boot
[01:03] <adam_> sorry to repeat myself but has anyone got kvm working on edgy?
[01:03] <|lostbyte|> !install
[01:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:04] <SatanMonk> ok... now, I'm dual booting, so if this fails.. I SHOULD be able to boot up winblows right?
[01:04] <troxor> SatanMonk: unless you change the windows stanza, yes
[01:04] <SatanMonk> also you should know.. I've never used GRUB before, only LILLO
[01:05] <SatanMonk> But I will give it a shot
[01:05] <SatanMonk> See ya on the other side.... (hopefully)
[01:05] <troxor> SatanMonk: grub is nicer, but gl
[01:05] <troxor> oops
[01:05] <adam_> let me be more specific anyone know why modprobe is saying it cant find the kvm-intel module when im in the folder with the modue
[01:06] <adam_> module*
[01:06] <troxor> adydas: right, the .run probably installs a newer kernel module, and the packages probably an earlier X module.. those need to be the same
[01:06] <troxor> adam_: dunno about kvm really, but did you run a depmod -ae just in case?
[01:07] <adam_> didnt know that command, what does it do?
[01:07] <adam_> (i could just do it, but then what would i learn, lol)
[01:08] <troxor> adam_: generates the dependencies and symbols for modules and stuff
[01:08] <adam_> ah ok
[01:08] <adam_> do i add the kvm-intel.ko after the depmod -ae?
[01:09] <troxor> adam_: nah, don't think depmod takes such args
[01:09] <adam_> k
[01:09] <adam_> time to try
[01:09] <shadowhywind> anyone have any idea why when i try to use my wireless my my computer slows down to a halt
[01:10] <|lostbyte|> Is there a minimal ubuntu cd ?
[01:10] <troxor> shadowhywind: if you run `top`, are there any progs using 99-100% cpu?
[01:10] <shadowhywind> no
[01:10] <|lostbyte|> Just console..
[01:11] <adam_> still saying it cant find the module that is right there, lol, i wonder if there is a manual way to do it
[01:12] <adydas> troxor: where would i obtain info to fix or match those modules
[01:12] <Sanne> adam_: are you sure you are in the modules directory that corresponds to your running kernel?
[01:13] <adam_> hmm, there is just a folder kernel
[01:13] <troxor> adydas: installing the nvidia packages with apt will automatically install matching versions
[01:13] <adam_> man didnt think about that
[01:13] <adam_> i didnt think the source from kvms website would have been kernel dependent
[01:13] <Sanne> adam_: you should be in /lib/modules/<kernel-version>
[01:14] <adam_> and do modprobe from there
[01:14] <Sanne> adam_: so you compiled the module yourself?
[01:14] <jarn> checkinstall is just a replacement for doing "make && make install" that creates a deb, correct?
[01:14] <adam_> yeah, i got the source from sourceforge and compiled it
[01:14] <adam_> since i dont have fiesty to get it from the repo's
[01:14] <troxor> |lostbyte|: did you want to do a network install?
[01:15] <troxor> shadowhywind: does `cat /proc/meminfo` show your memory all being used?
[01:16] <adydas> troxor:
[01:16] <Sanne> adam_: don't think I know further then, maybe somebody else knows, or ask on the kvms website?
[01:16] <|lostbyte|> troxor, nope, Just look for bash and vim for a linux class we have..
[01:16] <|lostbyte|> So i dont really need the X
[01:16] <shadowhywind> I will have to try to run that command next time i start the wireless..
[01:16] <adydas> uname -r
[01:16] <adydas> 2.6.17-11-generic
[01:16] <adam_> i was gonna go there next
[01:16] <adam_> thanks for trying tho
[01:16] <adydas> The following extra packages will be installed:
[01:16] <adydas>   linux-image-2.6.17-10-386 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386
[01:16] <|lostbyte|> And the pc's there have very little memory..
[01:17] <troxor> |lostbyte|: dunno if ubuntu has a minimal, but there are tons of minimal cds out there... gentoo's comes to mind
[01:17] <adydas> why is apt-get trying to isntall 2.6.17-10 when i have -11 ?
[01:17] <Sanne> adam_: should be something simple, I guess, like copying the file somewhere perhaps. Good luck :)
[01:17] <adam_> thanks
[01:17] <Sanne> yw
[01:17] <wastedtime> hi everybody
[01:17] <jarn> checkinstall is just a replacement for doing "make && make install" that creates a deb, correct?
[01:17] <|lostbyte|> troxor, yes, i had my eyes on slax.. did you use it?
[01:17] <troxor> |lostbyte|:or something like dsl
[01:18] <BluesKaj> linux looks like it uses a lot of memory but it's mostly cached memory
[01:18] <troxor> |lostbyte|: once upon a time, it had a shoe background by default >.<
[01:18] <|lostbyte|> troxor, i'll looking for something like dsl or slax with is easly installable..
[01:18] <|lostbyte|> which*
[01:19] <wastedtime> i have a mepis and win xp installed as a dual boot configuration , i want to install kubuntu over mepis ..
[01:19] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[01:19] <mike__> adept better than synaptic?
[01:19] <wastedtime> is it ok if i boot into kubuntu and install directly over mepis
[01:19] <wastedtime> and allow kbuntu to configure the grub loader
[01:20] <jtmoney> !find beryl
[01:20] <ubotu> Package/file beryl does not exist in edgy
[01:20] <mike__> Just installed kubuntu for the 1st time
[01:20] <|lostbyte|> Sanne, forgot to mention, there is no access to the internet.
[01:20] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: oh, that may complicate things. ;) Don't know then, sorry.
[01:20] <jtmoney> hmm, i thought beryl existed
[01:21] <troxor> adydas: mike__ boxers or briefs?
[01:21] <troxor> oops, mike__ *
[01:22] <Sanne> mike__: Welcome! :) I like Synaptic better, but that's just me. Try both, if you want. One thing I like in Synaptic is it keeps an installation history. I don't know if Adept has this feature yet.
[01:22] <wastedtime> i have a mepis and win xp installed as a dual boot configuration , i want to install kubuntu over mepis .. is it ok if i boot using the kubuntu DVD and install directly over mepis
[01:22] <troxor> adydas: hm, try linux-restricted-modules
[01:22] <mike__> Sanne: cheers ,,and what about media codecs?
[01:23] <mike__> mp3 ,,wmv etc
[01:23] <troxor> wastedtime: it would be ugly, imho, it's probably cleaner to wipe the partition (if you have a separate home, save that, of course)
[01:23] <Sanne> mike__: I'll send you a message from the channel bot ubotu about that.
[01:23] <Sanne> !restricted > mike__
[01:24] <mike__> ok,i have just installed herd 4
[01:24] <wastedtime> sure will try that .. thx troxor
[01:24] <MrBallZ> hi, normally how long it takes to packages like KDE 3.5.6 to get to the normal kubuntu repositories ???? it's been almost 3 weeks and nothing ...
[01:24] <mike__> Sanne: ok so just "check" the repo?
[01:24] <troxor> wastedtime: np, gl
[01:25] <xyverz> troxor: hey, thanks for the info about savedefault.  worked like a charm.
[01:25] <Sanne> mike__: hmm, first I would read the wiki page about resticted formats that ubotu talks about ;)
[01:25] <troxor> xyverz: glad to hear it, np
[01:25] <mike__> Sanne: cheers
[01:25] <Sanne> mike__: did you get ubotu's message?
[01:25] <MrBallZ> or ... should I always update my sources.list with the new repos ?
[01:25] <mike__> Sanne: yes thanks
[01:26] <Sanne> mike__: the "restricted" in restricted formats is not identical to the restricted repository (sorry, that's confusing)
[01:26] <|lostbyte|> How about ubuntu text base install ?
[01:26] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: it's great ;)
[01:27] <|lostbyte|> Sanne, using the kubuntu-standard.. ?
[01:27] <|lostbyte|> how do i do that..
[01:28] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: isn't there a so called server installation option? Installs just a base system which you can then build up. Am I right, peoples?
[01:28] <|lostbyte|> there is.. ? !!!
[01:29] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: If I'm not totallay mistaken, I think there is. Let's investigate.
[01:29] <|lostbyte|> alright..
[01:30] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: and I don't mean the official server cd, just to clarify
[01:30] <|lostbyte|> yes, .. i was think more of the boot: option..
[01:31] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: I remember some howto in the forums about setting up a minimal system, installing x server and a minimal window manager like fluxbox. Maybe I find it.
[01:31] <|lostbyte|> oh. ok
[01:33] <SatanMonk> I'm back
[01:34] <SatanMonk> I think I might have a key factor in my tty; jobcontrol problem
[01:34] <breakerz> somebody use ManDVD on dapper ?
[01:35] <SatanMonk> troxor, you still here?
[01:35] <troxor> SatanMonk: yep, what's up
[01:35] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[01:36] <SatanMonk> Well, I tried editing the GRUB, and was using the TAB interface to navigate around.. and found that under /dev I have NO hd___
[01:36] <SatanMonk> no hda
[01:36] <SatanMonk> or anything listed to that degree
[01:36] <|lostbyte|> cool !!
[01:36] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: hehe :)
[01:37] <|lostbyte|> its says "To install a base system, boot from the alternate (install) CD and choose "Install a command-line system."
[01:37] <|lostbyte|> Hope that comes with vim..
[01:37] <|lostbyte|> do you think its in it.. ?
[01:37] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: according to the page, it does (in chapter "When it's done")
[01:37] <troxor> SatanMonk: grub doesn't know what hda is, afaik.. it deals with stuff like (hd0,0).. the /dev/* stuff is mainly populated after the kernel boots, iirc
[01:38] <SatanMonk> sorry
[01:38] <SatanMonk> Do you want to know what was in my kernel line for Grub?
[01:39] <|lostbyte|> nano !! its diff from vim..
[01:39] <troxor> SatanMonk: there's an ext3 filesystem driver for windows, and explore2fs which might help figure out which partition and such contains your /boot dir
[01:39] <troxor> SatanMonk: sure
[01:39] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: "You can do this with vim or nano" ...
[01:40] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: so I think both are in
[01:40] <SatanMonk> kernel /boot/vmlinz2.6.17-11-generic root=/dev/hda1 ro simple splashscreen
[01:40] <|lostbyte|> Sanne, I could, but what about the 8 friends of line that never knew linux exsisted..
[01:40] <|lostbyte|> They just follow the book.
[01:41] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: huh? Lost me ;)
[01:41] <|lostbyte|> Sanne, Alright, i will check it out. thanks alot.
[01:41] <SatanMonk> Well, I have two hd's, a SATA 320Gb and a ATA 160Gb, Windowns is on the 320 SATA and Kubuntu is on the 160Gb.
[01:41] <Sanne> |lostbyte|: you're welcome :)
[01:42] <mem> rawr
[01:42] <SatanMonk> So I know that linux is on a completely diffrent HD rather than farting around with partitions
[01:42] <mem> I have them on completely different computers
[01:42] <BluesKaj> the boot dir is usually on the first sector of the HDD
[01:44] <troxor> SatanMonk: weird..
[01:44] <SatanMonk> I've tried leaving it at root= /dev/hda1 and it comes up that ext3filesys cannot find hda1
[01:44] <SatanMonk> in a long about way
[01:44] <BluesKaj> partitions can work very well , but ppl forget that installing windows destroys the grub bootloader
[01:45] <Tm_T> Hi kids.
[01:45] <SatanMonk> I had windows installed first, then I installed Kubuntu
[01:45] <BluesKaj> yup, that's the right way
[01:45] <SatanMonk> I've had THAT problem in the past ;)
[01:45] <nagyv> hello! how can I ask my computer to shut down in an hour?
[01:46] <Algorithme> man shutdown ;)
[01:46] <spitwise> man cron ?
[01:46] <troxor> nagyv: shutdown -t <seconds>
[01:46] <SatanMonk> lol
[01:46] <nagyv> actually I have already tried these, but finally never succeed. Although it seems to be easy.
[01:47] <troxor> nagyv: sleep <seconds> && shutdown -t now ;)
[01:47] <SatanMonk> try typing    shutdown --help   see what paramaters can be done
[01:48] <SatanMonk> lol... I wish I could --help MY problem right now
[01:48] <spitwise> sudo shutdown -t 3600
[01:49] <SatanMonk> any other ideas troxor?
[01:49] <troxor> SatanMonk: what about editing the initrd line in grub? maybe the image is corrupt?
[01:49] <SatanMonk> Hmmm... never thought of that
[01:50] <nagyv> thx, I think shutdown -h 3600 should work, I always missed -h before
[01:50] <SatanMonk> -h?? that's halt
[01:50] <spitwise> oh right
[01:50] <SatanMonk> -t is for timed
[01:51] <nagyv> for halt, as man says first a shutdown event is sent, and without options a maintenance event is given, time is a necessary variable, so no need for the -t switch
[01:51] <spitwise> the man lied
[01:52] <SatanMonk> What is the error giving you when you try to do a -t 3600  ???
[01:52] <nagyv> this: shutdown: time expected
[01:53] <troxor> SatanMonk: also, did you try ctrl+c'ing that message and seeing what happens?
[01:53] <SatanMonk> Yes, but I just get keybord garble
[01:53] <nagyv> -t is an unkown switch
[01:54] <SatanMonk> did you --help the options?
[01:54] <SatanMonk> I got dinner troxor, be right back.. wife's calling me like crazy lol
[01:55] <troxor> SatanMonk: have fun ;)
[01:56] <adydas> how do i install cpp (c preprocessor) that's why you get the /lib/cpp error if apt-get install cpp says its allready installed?
[01:58] <troxor> adydas: what needs this?
[01:59] <adydas> running a ./configure
[02:02] <troxor> adydas: for what package?
[02:07] <SatanMonk> back
[02:08] <SatanMonk> is there anyway to scroll the screen up so I can see the error? every method I used to know isn't working... then again I used to run zsh too
[02:09] <Sanne> SatanMonk: scroll which screen?
[02:10] <SatanMonk> consol screen..
[02:10] <NightBird> hm... I think I'll have to get a differen't kind of apple next time...
[02:10] <Sanne> SatanMonk: try shift-page up/down
[02:10] <SatanMonk> well, I'm  off to see if I can battle GRUB again
[02:11] <Sanne> good luck
[02:12] <SatanMonk> yeah... I need it... lol haven't used linux for 7years and then trying to jump back in again while getting boot problems.. thank god I still remember manual shell commmands... lol
[02:12] <SatanMonk> later
[02:13] <[R] eaper> hi, i need help (again)
[02:15] <[R] eaper> i have just installed the ati.com drivers
[02:16] <[R] eaper> but i got this : " (EE) Module ABI major version (0) doesn`t match the server`s version (1)
[02:16] <[R] eaper> (EE)Failed to load module "fglrx" (module requirement mismatch
[02:16] <surgy> can i use a breezy repo on edgy?
[02:17] <surgy> ?
[02:17] <adydas> [R] eaper: It sounds like your having the same issues as i had with Nvidia drivers
[02:18] <adydas> If it works anything the same the advice i was given was to uninstall any driver you did manually and apt-get nvidia-common ( in your case find the ati version of that ) Hopefully somone here can help more
[02:20] <troxor> [R] eaper: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide
[02:22] <[R] eaper> i will try that, thx XD
[02:24] <Mena_> i have a problem with the auto packdge mamanger and i forget how to solve it ..the program telling Checking for TCL Scripting Language ... failed
[02:24] <Mena_> any ideai
[02:24] <Mena_> idea*
[02:26] <adydas> Is mplayer a decent audio / vidio player?
[02:27] <troxor> adydas: decent is an understatement, it's awesome ;)
[02:30] <SatanMonk> I'm back
[02:30] <SatanMonk> I've got my error lines too
[02:30] <troxor> surgy: nope
[02:31] <surgy> troxor: ok thnx :(
[02:31] <Mena_> i have a problem with the auto packdge mamanger and i forget how to solve it ..the program telling Checking for TCL Scripting Language ... failed
[02:32] <troxor> surgy: what did you want to do that for?
[02:33] <surgy> troxor: a program i have been trying to get to work has a repo but it is breezy........... i have the source, gonna start compilation now
[02:33] <Sanne> Mena_: can't you install the application with ubuntu's package manager?
[02:34] <Mena_> Sanne, no bec its aMsn .96
[02:34] <bleanna_unux> how can i customize ubuntu to install only the packages i want during setup? i don't want openoffice or the multimedia apps...
[02:34] <SatanMonk> troxor, when you have a min I have the error lines that I get when trying to boot
[02:34] <SatanMonk> if you would like to look at them
[02:34] <troxor> SatanMonk: shoot
[02:34] <SatanMonk> Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom...
[02:35] <BalsamicChicken> Hi, How do i use command line to cd to a folder whose name has spaces in them?
[02:35] <SatanMonk> mount: Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: No such file or directory
[02:35] <Sanne> Mena_: ah, and this version is only in feisty, but you want to try it. Right?
[02:35] <SatanMonk> Done.
[02:35] <SatanMonk> mount :Mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: no such file or directory
[02:35] <Mena_> Sanne, yes
[02:35] <SatanMonk> mount: Mounting /proc on /root/proc failed: no such file or directory
[02:35] <SatanMonk> Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init
[02:35] <Mena_> Sanne, i try this befor but i forget to memoriz the steps
[02:35] <SatanMonk> Then that is when it kicks me to prompt
[02:35] <cpk1> BalsamicChicken: tab complete would be easiest or it would be like /home/user/why\ does\ this\ have\ spaces/
[02:36] <Sanne> Mena_: I guess then you need to install the package that ir complains about manually, in this case a package called something like tcl.
[02:36] <cpk1> !minimal | bleanna_unux
[02:36] <ubotu> bleanna_unux: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[02:36] <Mena_> Sanne, yes its telling me that
[02:36] <Mena_> Sanne, so i must install it
[02:37] <Mena_> Sanne, in fiest do will i need the auto packadge manager
[02:37] <SatanMonk> lol at this point I'm thinking of trying Fiesty Herd 4
[02:37] <Mena_> fiesty*
[02:37] <Sanne> Mena_: feisty has aMsn .96, according to packages.ubuntu.com
[02:38] <Mena_> Sanne, ok but i mean for all
[02:38] <Sanne> Mena_: there's a package called tcl8.4, might be what you need. Try installing it with your usual package manager (adept/synaptic/apt-get/aptitude etc)
[02:39] <Mena_> Sanne, ok
[02:39] <Wiglyworm> Hey, how can I get linux to recognize my wireless card?
[02:39] <bleanna_unux> cpk1: what apt-get command do i use to install the kde base only? kubuntu-desktop will d/l the entire kbuuntu desktop package
[02:40] <cpk1> kde-base =P
[02:40] <Sanne> Mena_: the problem with autopackage is that is not kubuntu's native package manager, so you kind of have to do things manually. Just keep that in mind if you install things in unofficial ways.
[02:40] <SatanMonk> does that tell you anything troxor?
[02:40] <Mena_> Sanne, hmmm ok
[02:40] <BalsamicChicken> cpk1 thx so much for the help with the spaces between folder name thing
[02:41] <BalsamicChicken> cpk1 i was away earlier trying out different th ings, thx
[02:42] <bleanna_unux> cpk1: apt-get install kde-base will only install the kde gui correct. not the uneeded mulitmedia, bluetooth, openoffice, and internet apps packages right?
[02:43] <Mena_> Sanne, Thanks Sanne its working now
[02:43] <cpk1> bleanna_unux: actually it looks like kde-base might not exist on edgy anymore, one second
[02:43] <Sanne> Mena_: hey cool! And you're welcome :)
[02:43] <Mena_> Sanne, :)
[02:44] <Sanne> bleanna_unux: you can check what the package depends on (and will install) at packages.ubuntu.com
[02:44] <troxor> SatanMonk: did hda1 is your root partition, right?
[02:44] <surgy> ok why cant i get the most recent version of libqt3-mt with apt-get?
[02:45] <SatanMonk> yes
[02:45] <Wiglyworm> So.. yeah... i'd love to get on the net with linux, if one of you has a minute.
[02:45] <SatanMonk> just incase I've tried hda and hda5
[02:45] <Sanne> surgy: because ubuntu is a stable distro that gets no version updates during it's half year life cycle.
[02:45] <Wiglyworm> Is there something I can do to get linux to recognize wireless ethernet? ^_^
[02:45] <surgy> sanne: any tips on where to get the latest version?
[02:46] <surgy> !wifi
[02:46] <bleanna_unux> cpk1: thank you
[02:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:46] <Wiglyworm> danke
[02:46] <surgy> sehr gut
[02:46] <cpk1> bleanna_unux: the name changed to kdebase and this is the list of its dependencies http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/kde/kdebase
[02:46] <troxor> SatanMonk: could you remind me, is this edgy or dapper?
[02:47] <Sanne> surgy: hmmm, it might be pretty much work, since it might depend on other qt libs, which in turn are connected to kde libs... but you have two options, search for backported binary packages for your ubuntu version, or compile from source (I woudn't attempt that, though, because of all those interdependencies).
[02:47] <SatanMonk> edgy 64
[02:47] <surgy> sanne: ok
[02:48] <troxor> SatanMonk: and the initrd.img is correct and non-corrupt?
[02:48] <Wiglyworm> hrmmm.. so my network card isn't on the list of supported hardware. Am I boned?
[02:48] <cpk1> Wiglyworm: is it on the ndiswrapper list?
[02:49] <Sanne> surgy: one thing... if you're on edgy, you could try the kubuntu packages from kubuntu.org. They *do* release updates for kde, so maybe there's also libqt-mt?
[02:49] <SatanMonk> yes the image is correct, it doesn't appear to be corrupt, it loads it in the boot up, it's just when it starts to mount images on hda1 they start to fail
[02:50] <Wiglyworm> Uh.. maybe? I went to the page that was linked to me, clicked WifiHowTo, and clicked on the link for the list of supported cards.
[02:50] <mike__> Sound is distorted in Mplayer but not vlc?
[02:50] <surgy> sanne awsome..... thnx ill check
[02:50] <troxor> SatanMonk: you might mwant to give this idea a shot: http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2007/01/msg00369.html
[02:50] <Sanne> surgy: yw
[02:51] <Wiglyworm> If that's an "ndiswrapper list", then no it is not. I'm a huge linux newb, so I can't say for sure.
[02:51] <troxor> SatanMonk: basically, booting your system off a livecd, and updating from there
[02:51] <cpk1> Wiglyworm: what card does lshw say you have?
[02:51] <surgy> sanne: any tips as to where on the website these packages are?
[02:52] <Sanne> surgy: sec
[02:52] <SatanMonk> oh yeah.. I'll read it over... thanks... hey, as well, if it's not salvageable, should I give Fiesty a try?
[02:52] <surgy> sanne: thnx
[02:52] <troxor> SatanMonk: if you want, only on edgy here
[02:53] <Wiglyworm> cpk: I have a Buffalo WLI2-PCI-G54s
[02:53] <SatanMonk> alright.. thanks again troxor
[02:53] <cpk1> who makes that? buffalo?
[02:53] <Sanne> surgy: I can't find the line for your sources.list right now, but you can browse the packages here: http://kubuntu.org/packages/
[02:54] <Wiglyworm> Yes, buffalo.
[02:54] <Sanne> surgy: I wouldn't download them manually, though, because you would have to get all the dependencies manually also.
[02:55] <surgy> sanne: you mean i should be looking for a repo?
[02:56] <cpk1> Wiglyworm: looks like it will work with ndiswrapper
[02:56] <Sanne> surgy: yes, and here you can look what it is: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[02:56] <Wiglyworm> Hmmm, It didn't recognize when I booted up. Is there something special I have to do to get it up and running?
[02:57] <Wiglyworm> Or, I guess, this is where I start reading the guide, huh?
[02:57] <surgy> sanne: isnt that generator dangeros?
[02:57] <Sanne> surgy: don't think so, let me check carefully (at least it spits out the line for kubuntu.org, though)
[02:58] <cpk1> Wiglyworm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29 should be pretty straightforward
[02:58] <surgy> sanne: no i mean its not safe for me to use the entire sources.list it makes becuase i have repos i added...... i will lose support for those
[02:59] <Wiglyworm> thanks again
[02:59] <Wiglyworm> Okay.. grumble... one more question...
[03:00] <cpk1> surgy: you just copy paste what you need into your own list
[03:00] <Sanne> surgy: ah, I see. I would just use the line it gives for the kubuntu repositories, and add that one only to your sources.list. There's also something about a gpg key you might want to read (in the generated list). It is safe to let it generate the list, it just gives you a text page in yout browser from which you can cut and paste.
[03:00] <Wiglyworm> That says there are different instructions for the AMD64 version... which is what I'm using. The link is to a blank page, though.
[03:00] <phobiac> I'm trying to install YIM with the "guide" here http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1411
[03:01] <surgy> sanne: which kubuntu repo line whould have the qt package i need?
[03:01] <Sanne> surgy: but, keep in mind, as it tells you, those *are* non standard repositories, so they won't be as stable as the official ones.
[03:01] <Sanne> surgy: I'll check
[03:01] <phobiac> When I try to install version 5.5 (which I assume should work) It gets to the point where it's "updating system configuration" and freezes
[03:02] <phobiac> On the command line I see this:wine: could not load L"C:\\windows\\temp\\GLJ1153.tmp" as Win32 binary
[03:02] <surgy> sanne: the program i am compiling isnt exactly stable :) so no concern there
[03:02] <Sanne> surgy: if anything has it at all, I would say "Kubuntu.org bleeding edge KDE". Just check that one and let it generate.
[03:02] <Sanne> surgy: heh
[03:02] <phobiac> Anyone know what to do? :/
[03:03] <agnostic>  anyone using notebook HP 500 CM-350?
[03:04] <Sanne> surgy: those packages also *might* give problems when you want to dist upgrade. best take note which packages you install from those (I would do that, but ok, I'm also kinda paranoid) :)
[03:04] <cpk1> phobiac: did you get ies4linux first?
[03:05] <Mena_> Sanne, sorry there is one more thing require
[03:05] <Sanne> Mena_: which is that?
[03:05] <Mena_> Sanne, its telling me a about GUI Toolkit
[03:05] <phobiac> cpk1: Yes
[03:05] <Sanne> Mena_: what gui toolkit?
[03:05] <Mena_> i dont know ..tk maybe
[03:05] <Mena_> its said that
[03:06] <Sanne> Mena_: what's the exact message (if it's much, please paste to paste.ubuntu-nl.org)
[03:06] <Mena_> ok
[03:07] <[R] eaper> ati drivers still no work, help me
[03:07] <LjL> !helpme
[03:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:07] <[R] eaper> (EE) Module ABI major version (o) doesn't match the server's version (1)
[03:07] <[R] eaper> (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module requirement mismatch, 0)
[03:07] <[R] eaper> (EE) No drivers available
[03:07] <[R] eaper> Fatal server error:
[03:07] <[R] eaper> no screens foun
[03:08] <surgy> sanne: i get this public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088 i should be able to fix it with gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys A506E6D4DD4D508   right?
[03:08] <LjL> [R] eaper: is that drivers that you got from the official repos?
[03:08] <Sanne> surgy: there I must admit that I don't know... I never needed to use those keys. Can anybody else help?
[03:08] <[R] eaper> yes
[03:08] <[R] eaper> from ati.com
[03:09] <Mena_> Checking for Tk GUI Toolkit ... failed
[03:09] <surgy> sanne: although its giving me a key error adept updater is nagging about 80 new updates all the sudden.....
[03:09] <LjL> [R] eaper: that's not "official repos"
[03:09] <LjL> it's not even repos to start with
[03:09] <LjL> !ati
[03:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:09] <LjL> !repositories
[03:09] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:10] <Mena_> i try to install tk but its telling me its one another repo but i have multievers and universe enabled
[03:10] <Mena_> one>>>on*
[03:11] <Sanne> Mena_: I don't know that package name for the tk gui toolkit, so let's search together. I'd like to show you how you can do that, ok?
[03:11] <Mena_> OK
[03:11] <Sanne> Mena_: ok, go to http://packages.ubuntu.com and locate the text input box in section "Search package directories"
[03:12] <Mena_> ok
[03:13] <Mena_> ok then search for the package
[03:13] <Sanne> Mena_: now we put into this text box one word (I believe multipe words don't work). As we only know "tk", that's what we will use, but it will give lots of hits. You also should choose your distribution in the drop down field (edgy?)
[03:14] <surgy> sanne: why whould distro updates be effected with bleeding edge kde?
[03:14] <Mena_> yes i am edgy
[03:14] <Sanne> Mena_: ok, then we choose that, and let it search
[03:15] <Mena_> Sanne, i did it but it couldnt find it  With the Tk word
[03:15] <Sanne> surgy: the packages might have other version numbers or some other incompatibilities that might give hickups during an upgrade. Just keep it in mind, so you remember that *if* you should get problems.
[03:15] <Skuller> hey ppl....i am new 2 the linux world and started off with using Kubuntu.....firstly can anyone tell me where i can find MY COMPUTER?
[03:15] <Sanne> Mena_: I get more than 200 hits...
[03:16] <Mena_> i just try this with the name i searched again with desc
[03:16] <Mena_> okay no prob
[03:16] <surgy> sanne: my backup system should stop those complications i think
[03:16] <Sanne> Mena in the result page, you can click on "all" to get all packages on one page, easier to search. I'll do that now  and try to find a tk gui package.
[03:17] <Sanne> surgy: I hope it does. It was just a warning, because lots of users have upgrade problems when they has installed things from unofficial repositories.
[03:17] <Skuller> hey ppl....i am new 2 the linux world and started off with using Kubuntu.....firstly can anyone tell me where i can find MY COMPUTER?
[03:17] <LjL> on your desk?
[03:17] <surgy> sanne: i will just format reinstall and then run a backup
[03:18] <Sanne> Mena_: I have another idea to find it, sec
[03:18] <Skuller> LjL: yea thnx....i meant as in the window where ic an see all my HDD's and my ROM's
[03:18] <Sanne> surgy: that's indeed always poaaible :)
[03:18] <surgy> sanne: thnx for the help i think this might work
[03:18] <Sanne> surgy: you're welcome :)
[03:18] <Mena_> ok
[03:19] <LjL> Skuller: if i recall correctly (my panel isn't a default one), there are three icons on the left of the KDE panel by default. one is the K menu, and one is for places - in the one for places, there should be "Media"
[03:20] <flipstar> muahhahahahahahha wine rockzzz ^^
[03:20] <Skuller> LjL: yea....the MEDIA place has my DVD n CD Drives in it...what about my HDD's?
[03:21] <ForgeAus> ARGH I think I need to reinstall QT Designer, all the wigets are messed up!
[03:21] <ForgeAus> its all black
[03:21] <Sanne> Mena_: ah, I guess I found it. Do you care to learn another trick, or would you just rather I'd tell you the package name?
[03:21] <LjL> Skuller: the HD partition from where Ubuntu is booted isn't shown there, simply because it's the root partition. it's under "Filesystem"
[03:21] <LjL> other HD partitions should be shown, though.
[03:21] <LjL> !windowsdrives
[03:21] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[03:21] <Mena_> Sanne, no porb i care
[03:21] <Skuller> !fuse
[03:21] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:22] <Mena_> i realt write this things in a text
[03:22] <Sanne> Mena_: ok, can you open a terminal window? konsole for example?
[03:22] <Mena_> ok
[03:22] <Sanne> Mena_: I'll explain first
[03:22] <Skuller> LjL: shud i be able to see my swapspace partition?
[03:22] <Mena_> ok
[03:22] <LjL> Skuller: no... what sense would that make?
[03:22] <LjL> it doesn't contain files
[03:23] <Skuller> LjL: yea it wudnt...but i was just wondering....
[03:23] <Sanne> Mena_: I thought that a gui toolkit that uses the packe tcl8.0 somehow, will have this package as a dependency. Luckily there's a command that shows us the packages that depend on another package. Type the following in konsole: apt-cache showpkg tcl8.0
[03:24] <Mena_> ok
[03:24] <Skuller> LjL: another thing...i downloaded the DVD version of KUBUNTU and installed it half an hour back....i have also tried the CD verision of UBUNTU for a day....what difference is there in the DVD n CD version?
[03:24] <Kr4t05> Is anyone else having that problem with Amarok, where it fails to detect libxine-extracodecs, regardless of the fact that you know it's installed...
[03:24] <Sanne> Mena_: note the packages under "Reverse Depends", those are all packages that need tcl8.0 to run.
[03:25] <angasule> Kr4t05: I trust you have closed amarok and reopened it after installing extra codecs?
[03:25] <Mena_> ok
[03:25] <underdog5004> hey guys, I'm trying to help this guy w/ his lappy over the phone. I'm looking to get his prism 2.5 wavelan chip working...any ideas?
[03:25] <LjL> Skuller: i'm not entirely sure - i mean, DVD has more packages included on the disc of course, but then with the Desktop CD you can't install additional packages from the disc at all, i don't know how it works with the DVD
[03:25] <Mena_> Sanne, i find two thing with tk
[03:25] <Mena_> 3*
[03:25] <Kr4t05> angasule: I had libxine installed for ages, and it worked fine up until 2 months ago.
[03:25] <Sanne> Mena_: now we can quickly look what a certain packae does by typing: apt-cache show <packagename>. Try this command wioth those two tk packages.
[03:25] <LjL> Skuller: at any rate, there will be no difference except that, when you select a package for installation, it will be installed from the internet instead of from the disc
[03:26] <troxor> underdog5004: hostap driver?
[03:26] <underdog5004> ??
[03:26] <underdog5004> what does that mean?
[03:26] <Mena_> Sanne, ok
[03:26] <angasule> Kr4t05: did you update right before it stopped working? (I'm shooting in the dark)
[03:26] <troxor> underdog5004: that's the optimal driver for that chipset, the hostap one
[03:27] <Kr4t05> angasule: Like... Maybe two or three days, but I ruled that out by downgrading.
[03:27] <Kr4t05> That, and no one else I know has the same problem.
[03:27] <Skuller> LjL: u mean to say if i install any package from "ADD/REMOVE" i dont need an internet connection with the DVD?
[03:27] <Sanne> Mena_: sorry, I think I borked. You didn't install tcl8.0, didn't you? Wasn't it tcl8.4?
[03:27] <angasule> Kr4t05: I guess you've reinstalled amarok, purging and reinstalled, etc?
[03:27] <LjL> Skuller: not *any* package, but *some* packages i guess.
[03:28] <Kr4t05> angasule: Exhastively.
[03:28] <Mena_> Sanne, no i did as you told me
[03:28] <Sanne> Mena_: what did I tell you?
[03:28] <LjL> Skuller: i'm not the person to ask tbh, i don't even have a DVD drive :)
[03:28] <Kr4t05> angasule: Do you think that compiling from source would solve it?
[03:28] <Mena_> Sanne, install tcl8.0
[03:28] <Mena_> Sanne, no with 8.4
[03:28] <Mena_> sorry
[03:29] <Skuller> LjL: ohh....well i guess i'll c wich packages are there then...shud make my life a lot simpler since i happen to be on slow broadband
[03:29] <angasule> Kr4t05: no idea, but it'd probably cause conflicts down the line, what about other programs? do they recognize the extra codecs?
[03:29] <Skuller> LjL:  thnx fer ur info
[03:29] <angasule> Kr4t05: for example, kaffeine, does it work fine?
[03:29] <Sanne> Mena_: then we need to do this command first: apt-cache showpkg tcl8.4
[03:30] <Mena_> OK
[03:30] <Sanne> Mena_: that's a bit more to look through ;)
[03:31] <Mena_> heheh yes
[03:31] <Sanne> Mena_: so I'll help now. As we look for some tk gui toolkit, let's check out the package tk8.4, looks promising
[03:32] <Skuller> LjL: yea i managed to get my other partitions to show using the webpage u gave me...thnx
[03:32] <Sanne> Mena_: type: apt-cache show tk8.4
[03:32] <Mena_> Sanne, ok
[03:33] <Kr4t05> angasule: Yes, it plays DIVx, Real, everything.
[03:33] <Kr4t05> angasule: Amarok just fails to play mp3 or ogg.
[03:33] <Sanne> Mena_: see the description?
[03:33] <Mena_> Sanne, yes
[03:33] <angasule> Kr4t05: uh, it fails to play ogg? it should never fail on oggs, I don't think so
[03:34] <Kr4t05> angasule: Then, I should file a bug against it?
[03:34] <Sanne> Mena_: look god, doesn't it? tk toolkit for tcl, graphical, seems like we are lucky, yes?
[03:34] <angasule> Kr4t05: hmm, does amarok play *anything*? wav files?
[03:35] <Kr4t05> angasule: WAV and WMV
[03:35] <Skuller> i have only one floppy drive but it shows 2 drives in my 'media'...one is floppy n other one being floppy0...is this a problem, if yes then how can i fix it?
[03:35] <angasule> Kr4t05: you might ask in #amarok first
[03:35] <Mena_> Sanne, yes so i must install tk8.4
[03:35] <Shaezsche> if i compile a custom kernel, will it still get autoupdated with the latest patches through kubuntu??
[03:35] <Sanne> Mena_: yes, exactly :)
[03:35] <Mena_> Sanne,i did heheh
[03:35] <Mena_> now
[03:35] <Sanne> Mena_: haha
[03:36] <Mena_> Sanne, thats a cool way thanks a lot
[03:36] <Mena_>  :)
[03:36] <Sanne> Mena_: you're welcome :)
[03:39] <Skuller> in my /media it shows "floppy" n "floppy0"......"floppy" seems to be a link to "floppy0"....how can i remove this link since it is unnecessary?
[03:40] <flipstar> @skuller at my /media folder the one drive is an shortcut...
[03:40] <flipstar> so there r just 1 drive
[03:40] <flipstar> and btw who cares
[03:40] <Skuller> flipstar: yes....but why is the shortcut there when the actual thing is also there?
[03:41] <Skuller> flipstar: basically can u help me to remove it?
[03:41] <Sanne> Skuller: I wouldn't change any of those files amd links that are put there by the os. It has a reason that's there.
[03:41] <ForgeAus> hmm kdevelops designer is only C++ :(
[03:42] <ForgeAus> but kdevelop itself isn't
[03:42] <Skuller> Sanne: hmm...ok...since this doesnt bother me that much and has a reason to be there i'll leave this matter alone....
[03:43] <Sanne> Skuller: I could explain to some degree, but I'm just too tired right now... sorry, maybe another day. I'll go to bed now, bye all.
[03:43] <flipstar> bye & gn8 ;):):D
[03:43] <Skuller> Sanne: no probs...thnx for the info nevaiz...gudnite
[03:44] <Sanne> :)
[03:47] <Skuller> how do i make use of my kubuntu DVD in installing packages from IT rather than downloading from the net?
[03:48] <mike__> I had the same prob
[03:48] <flipstar> open the adept manager then goto manage repositories
[03:48] <flipstar> top left
[03:49] <ForgeAus> hmmm
[03:49] <flipstar> but packages from the inet are more up to date (bugfixes security issues)
[03:49] <[R] eaper> help!! (again)
[03:49] <[R] eaper> reaper@reaper-desktop:~$ sudo modprobe fglrx
[03:49] <[R] eaper> FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx
[03:49] <flipstar> so the r to prefer
[03:50] <tier> moin ihr buben
[03:50] <flipstar> tach
[03:51] <tier> anyone a radeon 9600/96000 mobillity?
[03:51] <tier> h anyone a radeon 9600/9700 mobillity?
[03:53] <dennister> hey ppls :) having a problem with networking my voip service & adapter on drydsl line...anyone?
[03:54] <Skuller> flipstar: no luck with the adept manager....there is no 'manage repositories' and theres hardly anything in the lists of softwares either...and whatever is there is greyed out....what do i do?
[03:55] <flipstar> u didnt found the manage repository?
[03:56] <flipstar> its on adept manager then clickk on adept on left top and its just the second entry -_-
[03:57] <Skuller> flipstar: ohh...i was using the ADD/REMOVE thingy....now i am in the MANAGER....yea i see it....
[03:58] <[R] eaper> sudo modprobe fglrx
[03:58] <[R] eaper> FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx
[03:58] <[R] eaper> help please
[03:59] <ForgeAus> whats modprobe?
[04:00] <tier> anyone a radeon 9600/9700 mobillity?
[04:01] <ForgeAus> mine is 9600 but not for laptop/mobility its a desktop
[04:02] <tier> i had no preblems with a 9500
[04:02] <tier> but this is different
[04:02] <tier> its even on windows difficult
[04:03] <[R] eaper> anyone a radeon X1600?? :(
[04:03] <tier> normal ati drivers wont do on windows
[04:03] <tier> and on ubuntu i cant install them too
[04:04] <tier> on windows i use omega
[04:04] <Kr4t05> angasule: Turns out it's more of a general xine problem.
[04:04] <Kr4t05> I'll be a monkey's uncle if I know what, though...
[04:04] <angasule> Kr4t05: ouch :(
[04:05] <tier> or the drivers that have been delivered with the laptop
[04:05] <angasule> Kr4t05: well, your siblings must have some odd habits for that to happen :)
[04:05] <doppelganger_> i've got a quick question
[04:05] <Kr4t05> angasule: That's the thing, I hardly let anyone touch this computer.
[04:06] <doppelganger_> i have a multimedia keyboard, with a volume knob on it. When i turn it, it shows a volume thing moving up and down on screen
[04:06] <doppelganger_> but it doesn't actually turn anything up, or down
[04:06] <doppelganger_> any idea wth that might be
[04:07] <angasule> Kr4t05: I was talking about being a monkey's uncle :D
[04:07] <doppelganger_> i've played with the sound options a lot..  but it just appears to..  i guess not be "bound" to any particular sound volume bar
[04:07] <Kr4t05> angasule: Ah, misread. :P
[04:07] <doppelganger_> i'd like it to control the master sound, which it used to do in kde
[04:07] <doppelganger_> but with gnome it seems useless
[04:08] <flipstar> @doppelganger did u set the main canal to pcm?
[04:14] <esaym> ubuntu dapper kernel changelog is anyone cares: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/linux-source-2.6.15_2.6.15-28.51/changelog
[04:14] <esaym> I find it interesting
[04:16] <ForgeAus> wow I finally got my ubuntu-minimal back!
[04:16] <ForgeAus> with no complaint!
[04:24] <Skuller> !nvidia
[04:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:24] <Skuller> !update
[04:24] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:24] <Skuller> !ubotu
[04:24] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:25] <Skuller> !ubotu | Skuller
[04:29] <surgy> so what exactly is this package called "kdebase" ?
[04:29] <surgy> !kdebase
[04:30] <ubotu> kdebase: base components from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 88 kB
[04:30] <surgy> but which components
[04:33] <glundberg> surgy, kdebase contains all the essential applications for KDE
[04:34] <glundberg> kicker, KDestop, KControl, Konqueror, konsole, etc
[04:39] <Skuller> hey guys how can i use my DVD of kubuntu to install packages from it?
[04:40] <surgy> glundberg: kewl so im getting new versions of them all :)
[04:41] <esaym> whats the trick to be able to view other people's webcams in kopete???
[04:41] <esaym> I search and it seems like I am the only one having the problem
[04:41] <surgy> esaym: lotion..... lol j/k
[04:41] <lotusleaf> Skuller: insert the Kubuntu DVD and it should be available in Synaptic and/or Adept with a refresh AFAIK
[04:42] <esaym> lotion? wtf
[04:43] <surgy> esaym: just a joke man chill.
[04:43] <Skuller> lotusleaf: ohh..ok thnx...i will try it out once the Dept updater has finished patching up my system.....another 4 hours only remaining for the downloads to finish...:D....(damn slow broadband)
[04:44] <esaym> yea but I don't get it.  Like a sex joke or something?
[04:44] <lotusleaf> Skuller: any particular reason why you're using the Kubuntu DVD vs. CD especially if you have broadband?
[04:44] <lotusleaf> Skuller: did you download a nightly or whatever?
[04:45] <Skuller> lotusleaf: Due to my slow broadband i downloaded the DVD version so i dont have to go about waiting for ages to install packsages....but after i installed it i dint noe how to make use of the DVD
[04:45] <Skuller> lotusleaf: nightly?
[04:45] <surgy> esaym:  a webcam cyber thing nvm lol
[04:45] <lotusleaf> Skuller: ya there are daily or nightly isos
[04:46] <lotusleaf> Skuller: but you can also mirror a repo
[04:46] <Skuller> lotusleaf: i dont get what ur trying to say....
[04:46] <lotusleaf> !debmirror > Skuller
[04:46] <esaym> lol I don't cyber
[04:47] <esaym> so no one has a problem viewing yahoo webcams on kopete then I guess??
[04:47] <Skuller> lotusleaf: lol...i dint get a thing the bot just told me
[04:47] <lotusleaf> Skuller: nevermind then, please proceed with your Kubuntu DVD and we'll go from there ;)
[04:47] <Skuller> lotusleaf: sure...thnx m8...
[04:47] <lotusleaf> Skuller: np :)
[04:53] <dennister> hey lotusleaf, know anything about networking?
[04:53] <nomad111> hey all how do i add a certain app to my session startup in kde
[04:53] <Skuller> lotusleaf: i used ubuntu for a day and rememer that while updating the os with patches...the updater used to show an ETA ...but in kubuntu i dont c one...is there a way to find out?
[04:54] <dennister> :) <---------opportunist here
[04:54] <lotusleaf> Skuller: you're using Adept?
[04:54] <lotusleaf> Skuller: I use Synaptic in Kubuntu :) You may use either one
[04:54] <nomad111> adept rules
[04:54] <nomad111> so quick
[04:55] <nomad111> loading and searching
[04:55] <Skuller> lotusleaf: yea i m using adept...how do i get synaptic?
[04:55] <lotusleaf> dennister: ask away and if I don't answer someone else who knows may ;)
[04:55] <lotusleaf> Skuller: install it through Adept and/or sudo apt-get install synaptic from the command line
[04:55] <Skuller> nomad111: is there any way to see the ETA in adept?
[04:55] <nomad111> lemme check
[04:56] <dennister> have tried coupla times in asking...also trying to be patient :) problem: new dslmodem/router, can't get my voip adapter configured in the software
[04:56] <dennister> <-------misses her old router
[04:56] <Skuller> lotusleaf: oh...ok....i'll do dat once i m done with my current updating that finishes in a couple of hours...thnx
[04:56] <lotusleaf> dennister: also try #ubuntu #ubuntu-offtopic #ubuntuforums #kubuntu-offtopic until your answer is found ;)
[04:57] <lotusleaf> Skuller: yw
[04:57] <nomad111> Skuller: nope there isnt
[04:57] <dennister> k tried ubuntu...will try others...this has been driving me nuts for a week now
[04:57] <nomad111> lotusleaf: how do i add a certain app to my session startup in kde
[04:57] <lotusleaf> dennister: also ##linux ;)
[04:57] <Skuller> nomad111: oh...das da worst part......well i guess i'll switch to synaptic...thnx fer da help
[04:58] <lotusleaf> Skuller: I use and prefer Synaptic but YMMV :)
[04:58] <dennister> ## networking is dead, and it's not even a linux or ubuntu issue, actually...it's the voip/router software
[04:58] <lotusleaf> dennister: #security ?
[04:58] <Skuller> lotusleaf: k cool...i'll use dat too.....YMMV???
[04:59] <dennister> no, not really a security issue either...have to find out how to nat this device, forward the port...
[04:59] <lotusleaf> Skuller: your milage may vary ;)
[04:59] <Skuller> lotusleaf: lol...yea...prolly...
[05:00] <dennister> was on phone tech support almost all day, but they're all gone home for the weekend now...and i can't wait more days...phone won't work until this is solved
[05:00] <dennister> pretty well all companies are passing the buck to each other
[05:01] <lotusleaf> dennister: if in doubt, forum works it out: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[05:01] <Skuller> lotusleaf: why are there 2 separate channels for Ubun and Kubun?
[05:01] <dennister> but will try some of the off-topic channels...yes, but i've rarely had any luck there...posted lots of info, rarely any helpful responses
[05:01] <lotusleaf> Skuller: Kubuntu (KDE) & Ubuntu (Gnome)
[05:01] <lotusleaf> Skuller: both deal with seperate unique issues to each
[05:02] <dennister> but thank you lotusleaf, for ur support
[05:02] <lotusleaf> dennister: np gl
[05:03] <Skuller> lotusleaf: oh...yes i knoe abt the diff Desktop environments used in both....i guess ppl need help with the things that the environments change as well....
[05:03] <Skuller> lotusleaf: thnx fer tellin me stuff
[05:03] <lotusleaf> Skuller: there's also #xubuntu and #edubuntu
[05:03] <lotusleaf> Skuller: yw ;)
[05:05] <Skuller> lotusleaf: ohh....wha does Xu specialise in?...i ave herd that Edu is for student-teacher environment n not for the normal desktop user...isnt it?
[05:05] <Skuller> lotusleaf: yw?
[05:05] <lotusleaf> Skuller: you're welcome
[05:05] <lotusleaf> Skuller: check each respective website :) links @ ubuntu.com on right hand side :)
[05:05] <Skuller> lotusleaf: ohh...lol...soz fer actin such a noob man...
[05:05] <surgy> anyone here have an ipod?
[05:05] <lotusleaf> Skuller: everyone's a newbie at some point
[05:06] <Skuller> lotusleaf: k sure...thnx man
[05:06] <Skuller> lotusleaf: hmm...true that....its jus how early and fast u go beyond that point aye
[05:09] <Skuller> lotusleaf: i wanted to play an *.avi file (DivX) using kaffeine....but i cant...do i need a codec for that?
[05:10] <ni-hao777> i have the same trouble
[05:10] <ni-hao777> i wanting it
[05:10] <surgy> !restricted
[05:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:10] <glundberg> download xine-extra-codecs
[05:10] <glundberg> or something similar
[05:10] <scribz> 9
[05:10] <surgy> or vlc
[05:10] <ni-hao777> from where
[05:11] <surgy> sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:11] <chezz99> hello!everyone!
[05:11] <glundberg> adept
[05:11] <surgy> HELLO!
[05:11] <scribz> does kdm do an autologin ?
[05:11] <glundberg> yes it does
[05:11] <Skuller> ohh...how do i enable multiverse n universe repos?
[05:11] <scribz> glundberg: how ?
[05:12] <glundberg> Skuller, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:12] <ni-hao777> i donwloade two but they cant show me the avi files
[05:12] <ni-hao777> i try with the sudo...
[05:12] <ni-hao777> im learninig im try
[05:13] <glundberg> scribz, System Settings -> Advanced -> Login Manager
[05:13] <ni-hao777> came back after thanks
[05:13] <Skuller> Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/apt/sources.list" -- using "application/*"
[05:13] <Skuller> Error: no write permission for file "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:14] <Wiglyworm> hey can I download the ndis wrapper for edgy AMD64 somewhere? I don't have my live CD handy.
[05:14] <Skuller> i get this when i edit it glundberg
[05:14] <surgy> skuller type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal
[05:14] <surgy> skuller uncomment all the repos you want
[05:14] <surgy> skuller you have to open the file as sudo
[05:14] <glundberg> wow
[05:14] <Skuller> surgy: ohh..ok...lemme try
[05:15] <ni-hao777> i did with sudo but i havent vic packcage i need download it
[05:15] <lotusleaf> or sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:15] <glundberg> ni-hao777, you dont need sudo to watch movies....
[05:16] <Skuller> surgy: wht exactly do i do with the page i get after i type in ur command in the terminal?
[05:16] <ni-hao777> ok but i have a movie in avi and tell me al progams like i dont have the codec for it
[05:16] <Wiglyworm> 's that a "no"? :(
[05:16] <jager> do i need to do anything special to enable mp3 support in edgy?
[05:16] <surgy> skuller: a ## is a comment and linux forgets about any lines that start with ## so all the lines starting with something like ##deb need to be just deb understand ?
[05:17] <jager> !mp3
[05:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:17] <glundberg> ni-hao777, go here and read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:17] <joachim_> hi nihao just install VLC it  works most common files
[05:17] <scribz> glundberg: thanks
[05:17] <ni-hao777> thanks
[05:17] <surgy> yeah its vLc not vic
[05:17] <ni-hao777> ok
[05:18] <Skuller> surgy: umm....i see lines with a *.....wait..basically i dont get it
[05:18] <surgy> skuller: look at the lines starting with ##
[05:18] <surgy> skuller: see those?
[05:18] <Skuller> surgy: yea
[05:19] <surgy> skuller: now read through it, it will say stuff like "uncomment the following lines for multiverse" see that?
[05:19] <Skuller> surgy: yea...i do...
[05:19] <glundberg> lol
[05:19] <surgy> skuller: ok now go bellow that to where it is like ##deb blah blah blah
[05:19] <surgy> and remove the ##
[05:20] <Skuller> surgy: it is only *deb blah blah blah...not double **
[05:20] <surgy> it should be # not *
[05:21] <Skuller> surgy: sori...yea it is #...but only single...should i remove the single ones only
[05:21] <Skuller> ?
[05:21] <surgy> skuller remove the # before all the deb
[05:21] <Skuller> ok
[05:21] <surgy> hold on i can give you an example from my sources.list
[05:22] <surgy> skuller here is the line comented "#deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe"
[05:22] <glundberg> any cs students here?
[05:22] <surgy> skuller and here it is uncomented "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe"
[05:23] <Skuller> surgy: ok i ave done that.....in the "restricted' it was already removed...i removed the ones from 'universe', what about the multiverse ones?
[05:23] <surgy> skuller so remove all the # in front of all of the deb and then press cntrl+o and then cntrl + x
[05:23] <surgy> skuller: i whould suggest you remove all of them
[05:23] <surgy> including the backports
[05:23] <Skuller> surgy:  even the ones from the 'backports'?
[05:23] <surgy> yes
[05:24] <surgy> and then cntrl + O will save it and cntrl + X will exit
[05:24] <Skuller> surgy: ok...done that
[05:24] <surgy> then you must type: sudo apt-get update             to update to sources.list
[05:25] <surgy> if you get any errors or warnings paste them at www.pastebin.com
[05:26] <Skuller> surgy: i am already downloading things in adept updater.....and i also started this.....should i cancel this one?
[05:26] <surgy> skuller: you should never change sources.list while running adept updater
[05:27] <surgy> skuller and you cant sudo apt-get with adept running, you will have to wait till its done
[05:27] <Skuller> surgy: umm....am i spsed 2 say damn....or can i do anything now?
[05:27] <surgy> skuller nothing is broken, just dont do it
[05:27] <Skuller> ohh...
[05:27] <Skuller> surgy: but....how did this start then?...if adept is already running?
[05:28] <surgy> ?
[05:28] <surgy> you mean apt-get update is running?
[05:28] <Mena> How can i scadule my Pc to shutdown in a time i choose
[05:28] <Skuller> yes surgy
[05:29] <surgy> skuller let the sudo apt-get update finish, and close the terminal
[05:29] <Skuller> surgy: ok...
[05:29] <surgy> skuller and then after adept is finished close it, and then your good to go
[05:29] <Mena> friends any idea
[05:30] <jager> i installed a different sound card just now, how do i tell the system to use it?
[05:30] <jager> i have a red X on the mixer in the kicker bar
[05:30] <Skuller> surgy: k cool.....i hope its all done well...thnx fer da info man....
[05:30] <surgy> skuller: np
[05:31] <Skuller> surgy: can u explain me what we jus did?...i mean in regards to that sources list and ctrl-o thingy?
[05:31] <Mena> surgy, how to scaduale my pc to shutdown automaticlay
[05:31] <godvirus> What package contains the man pages for cos/acos/drand48/printf, etc?
[05:32] <godvirus> These man pages are seemingly missing on my kubuntu edgy system
[05:32] <surgy> skuller: sudo gives you super user privs and lets you change everything on the pc, nano is the text editor, and /etc/apt/sources.list is the directory for nano to open...... cntrl+o is just the command for nano to save
[05:33] <jager> i removed and ensoniq audiopci and installed a soundblaster
[05:33] <surgy> skuller: also sources.list is the list of servers that kubuntu looks through to find updates and new software
[05:33] <jager> i thought the system would autodetect it but it doesn't
[05:33] <surgy> mena: i dont know look for a program or use your cmos power settings
[05:33] <surgy> skuller: is that the explaination you wanted?
[05:34] <Mena> surgy,ok
[05:34] <Skuller> surgy: ohhh.....cool....and what did we enable/disable in the repos??....i mean....i noe nothing so jus simply speaking why did i have to enable the universe thingies?
[05:34] <jager> lspci doesn't show any sound hardware
[05:34] <jager> wtf
[05:35] <Skuller> surgy: not exactly but u gave an awesome explanation that i def wanted to know about too...thnx
[05:35] <surgy> skuller: we enabled all of the basic repos for software supported by third party venders canonicle and kubuntu, we also enabled the non free or proprietary repos
[05:35] <surgy> skuller: now you can get games, your video drivers, and tons of others
[05:36] <Skuller> surgy: ohh....and was this the only method to do it?...i mean isnt there any GUI way of doing it?
[05:36] <Skuller> surgy: thas cool
[05:36] <surgy> skuler yes there is a gui way
[05:37] <surgy> skuller: you can go into adept package manager and then click on manage repos
[05:37] <surgy> and you could use kate instead of nano, or any other text editor
[05:37] <Skuller> surgy: ohh...yea but that wont work coz my adept updater is running
[05:37] <surgy> skuller: exactly
[05:37] <surgy> afk for a sec
[05:38] <Skuller> surgy: ok...what exactly is being downloaded in my terminal after i did the apt-get update?
[05:42] <surgy> skuller: it is updateing your entire system, sorta like winxp getting service pack 2
[05:42] <Skuller> surgy: umm.....n what is my adept manager doing then?
[05:42] <Skuller> surgy: i mean wt is it downloading?
[05:42] <surgy> skuller your probably doing the same thing twice
[05:43] <surgy> packages
[05:43] <Skuller> surgy: damn...i m on 128kbps and i am downloading something twice....great...lol...anyway to do anything to change anything rite now?
[05:44] <surgy> skuller: close one...... you might get some shit fucked up, but hey if your in a hurry
[05:45] <Skuller> surgy: lol....i think i'll let them download then...dont want mah fresh install of kubun to get messy in anyway.......
[05:46] <Skuller> surgy: nicee.....mah terminal downloading has finished with the downloading crap......but with errors....
[05:48] <madmatt> what's the fastest vnc viewer?
[05:49] <Skuller> surgy: http://pastebin.com/882805
[05:49] <surgy> looking
[05:49] <Skuller> surgy: if u can please have a look and give me some advice
[05:49] <Skuller> surgy: ok...thnx
[05:51] <surgy> skuller
[05:51] <surgy> see this line: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:51] <Skuller> surgy: yea...is it the adept mupdater?
[05:51] <surgy> it cant "lock" the directory becuase adept is using it
[05:51] <Skuller> surgy: ohh.....so is everything alrite or is it screwed?
[05:52] <surgy> thats why i said you cant update with apt-get untill adept was done
[05:52] <surgy> skuller should be kewl, just close ythe term and chill till adept is done
[05:52] <Skuller> surgy: hmm..true man....
[05:52] <Skuller> surgy: sure thing....will b bak den in another 3 hours or something...thnx a LOT for all the help till now....laterz man
[05:53] <surgy> skuller laterz
[05:54] <surgy> skuller and anytime man
[05:56] <surgy> whats the bash equivalent to ipconfig?
[05:58] <Skuller> surgy: umm...i screwed up man...i closed the 'adept manager' thinkin it wud go away from the taskbar to the system tray....but i think it permanently closed....am i screwed now?
[05:59] <Skuller> surgy: P.S. it was in the middle of downloading updates
[05:59] <Jucato> !adeptfix | Skuller
[05:59] <ubotu> Skuller: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:59] <surgy> skuller: there you go
[06:00] <Skuller> surgy: kill process??
[06:01] <surgy> !adeptfix | skuller
[06:01] <ubotu> skuller: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:02] <surgy> skuller: after you do that forget about  adept
[06:02] <gansinho> please, anyone knows if this repo ( deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/ edgy main ) could "harm" my system (sorry the bad english)
[06:02] <surgy> use konsole
[06:03] <shoehornlover> hey ya'll i got a question
[06:04] <Skuller> surgy: hey u noe wat...i have nothing to lose if i just do a fresh install of kubuntu.....should i?....so these problems dont affect me
[06:04] <shoehornlover> i just took windows off my computer and installed kubuntu and i can't seem to get my wifi working
[06:05] <Skuller> shoehornlover: if ur new to linux u shudnt have removed the windows in the first place......dont ask me about the wifi tho
[06:05] <shoehornlover> well i know some about it
[06:06] <SolidSource> shoehornlover: did kubuntu recognize your wifi?
[06:06] <shoehornlover> no
[06:07] <shoehornlover> lspc01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)i says ...
[06:07] <gansinho> ok, I'll try in other way.. maybe it wasn't clear, it is secure to use the source "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/ edgy main"  and upgrade mys system?
[06:08] <SolidSource> shoehornlover: this may help http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Modems_.2F_Network
[06:08] <SolidSource> gansinho: by upgrade you are using dapper right now?
[06:10] <SolidSource> gansinho: or do you mean update?
[06:10] <gansinho> SolidSource: yep.. I mean, is it safe to sudo aptitude update with this repo?
[06:10] <gansinho> *upgrade my packages (sorry)
[06:10] <surgy> skuller: dont reinstall thats for pansys :)
[06:11] <gansinho> not dist upgrade, just upgrade the packages
[06:11] <SolidSource> gansinho: yes its part of the main repos http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/ will give a complete lise of all the official ubuntu maintain repos
[06:11] <SolidSource> gansinho: and it contains that repo
[06:11] <gansinho> SolidSource: oh thanks a lot! =)
[06:13] <shoehornlover> i have a broadcom 4311 and am using the 64bit unbuntu and have already tried a bunch of ndiswrapper installations
[06:14] <shoehornlover> could it be because i am running the 64bit cause the tutorials never say if it's for the 64bit or not
[06:14] <SolidSource> its possible but doubtful
[06:15] <SolidSource> is it a removable or internal card?
[06:16] <shoehornlover> it's internal
[06:16] <SolidSource> shoehornlover: is it removable or internal card?
[06:17] <SolidSource> ok
[06:17] <shoehornlover> the laptop is a V3010US presario if that helps any
[06:18] <SolidSource> old laptop?
[06:19] <shoehornlover> new
[06:19] <shoehornlover> 6 months or so
[06:19] <SolidSource> hmm
[06:22] <mshade_> what does lspci show it as?
[06:23] <shoehornlover> 01:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Unknown device 4311 (rev 01)
[06:23] <shoehornlover> its a bmc4311 card
[06:23] <surgy> anyone here ever got microsoft's .net framework to work on kubuntu?
[06:24] <esaym> anyway to limit the logfile size in konversation?  freaking logs are like 50mb in size and only 1 month old....
[06:24] <SolidSource> shoehornlover: guess I not any help, I can't find anything on it
[06:25] <shoehornlover> ok thanks for teing though i'll just keep at it
[06:25] <SolidSource> shoehornlover: could try the 32bit version it may work...course I wonder if the wrapper didn't work because you might not have all the IA32 s installed
[06:26] <mshade_> surgy: mono is supposed to be a drop in replacement.
[06:26] <mshade_> i can't testify to its ability, but it's known as the OS equivelant
[06:26] <SolidSource> shoehornlover: heres a site that explains how to manually add a network card https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[06:27] <Lc_945x3> hello, the power management software in kubuntu is limiting my mhz, anybody know how i can go about uncapping my cpu?
[06:27] <surgy> mshade: doesnt help me with the program im running in wine
[06:28] <lotusleaf> surgy: have you tried #winehq ?
[06:28] <surgy> lotusleaf: the program isnt there
[06:29] <surgy> lotusleaf: sorry ill check there, the program isnt on there site
[06:29] <lotusleaf> surgy: no apologies needed ;)
[06:29] <lotusleaf> surgy: also see http://appdb.winehq.org/
[06:30] <surgy> lotusleaf: the appdb is what i was reffering to, the program isnt in the db
[06:30] <SolidSource> !BIN
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <bewl> i cannot get my thumb buttons to work with firefox for the life of me :(
[06:32] <bewl> ive went through every guide step by step
[06:32] <SolidSource> ?
[06:32] <bewl> only to have my mouse wheel scroll through the pages
[06:32] <bewl> instead of the thumb buttons
[06:33] <SolidSource> did you install through adept or compile yourself?
[06:33] <bewl> install what? imwheel?
[06:35] <Retarded_Rican> Can anyone lend me a hand trying to figure out why black on my pc whether on the internet or an imageon the pc itself loops distorted
[06:35] <Retarded_Rican> loops=looks
[06:36] <SolidSource> bewl: ?
[06:36] <bewl> what are you asking that i installed?
[06:37] <Retarded_Rican> Can anyone lend me a hand trying to figure out why black on my pc whether on the internet or an imageon the pc itself loops distorted
[06:37] <Retarded_Rican> loops=looks
[06:37] <Retarded_Rican> I have the nvidia video card
[06:39] <SolidSource> bewl: did you install firefox through adept or compile yourself?
[06:39] <bewl> i installed it through adept
[06:39] <bewl> however
[06:39] <bewl> the thumb buttons on my mouse dont work period.
[06:39] <bewl> they dont ever by default work
[06:39] <bewl> you have to configure it to
[06:40] <SolidSource> bewl: oh...well I don't know, I just a regular mouse
[06:44] <Dr_willis> "Why did you hit me with a Trout?" "Because the mackrel wasent fresh...."
[06:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:49] <snowrichard> hi
[06:50] <Dr_willis> hii
[06:56] <SolidSource> anyone had the problem of kubuntu-desktop being uninstalled when you uninstall the bluetooth crap?
[07:00] <Skuller> hey guys...can anyone help me decide whether i should use Kubun or Ubun?
[07:01] <SolidSource> there really isn't much difference except the interface
[07:03] <Dr_willis> Install one,, then install the OTHER-desktop
[07:03] <Dr_willis> and use both as you see fit.
[07:03] <Dr_willis> I dont see a reason to just use one or the other
[07:03] <Skuller> SolidSource: so which interface do you prefer for a guy who doesnt like crashes, slowups and loves stability in the programs and explorer?
[07:03] <Dr_willis> Either one fits those.
[07:04] <Dr_willis> I perfer to mixx and match kde/gnome/other apps as needed
[07:04] <Skuller> Dr_willis: ohh....
[07:04] <SolidSource> Skuller: I like kde since its more pleasing and easier to use...to me
[07:04] <SolidSource> pleasing to the ey
[07:04] <Dr_willis> I use k3b under gnome.. but i find some of the gnome settings tools easier to use.
[07:04] <SolidSource> e
[07:04] <Dr_willis> i also like some of the apps that xubuntu installs
[07:05] <SolidSource> you can install those apps on kde or gnome too though
[07:05] <Dr_willis> I install the whole desktops :)
[07:05] <Skuller> SolidSource: oh...well i like eyecandy too....i guess i'll go with KDE then....and another thing...what is the difference between the DVD version and the CD version of kubuntu?
[07:05] <Dr_willis> i got lots of drive space
[07:05] <Dr_willis> dvd version i THINK does the live cd + the alt install..
[07:05] <Dr_willis> i never bother with the dvd version
[07:05] <SolidSource> Skuller: DVD = less to download
[07:05] <Skuller> Dr_willis: ohh...well i'll stik with one fer the while....thnx fer ur help
[07:05] <Dr_willis> but any install at this time.. will proberly have a bit of initial updates also .
[07:06] <SolidSource> just 160 updates....but yeah
[07:06] <Skuller> SolidSource: but doesnt that make it useless if the packages in it are outdated?
[07:06] <Dr_willis> it means your first apt-get upgrade will grab a lot of stuff
[07:06] <Dr_willis> of course you are talking to a guy that installs all 3 major desktops.. :) so i dont worry about downloading a few gb of updates
[07:07] <Skuller> Dr_willis: if i install from the DVD do i need to do anything further after installation of the OS to get the things from the DVD?
[07:07] <SolidSource> Skuller: not to me, I like to have as possible even if its outdated cause the update can always be had at a later time
[07:07] <Dr_willis> I never use the dvd.. i perfer to get the latest stuff to install from the net.
[07:08] <Dr_willis> im cusious as to what 'extra' packages the dvd would have anyway..
[07:08] <Dr_willis> proberly a file list somewhere on the download site.
[07:08] <Skuller> SolidSource: ok..i think thats a better option then....wil all the softs in the DVD get auto installed when i install the OS?
[07:08] <crystufer> Woot!
[07:08] <crystufer> Got Kubuntu Running in the pc!!!
[07:09] <crystufer> I'm adepting right now.
[07:09] <crystufer> I'm so happy!
[07:09] <SolidSource> Skuller: not all by default, but you could select..
[07:09] <phwickett> hey guys
[07:09] <phwickett> said goodbye to vista
[07:09] <crystufer> gratz
[07:09] <phwickett> crappy OS
[07:09] <phwickett> god damn keys
[07:09] <SolidSource> Dr_willis: is the CD a liveCD or just an install?
[07:09] <Skuller> SolidSource: hwo will i select?
[07:09] <Skuller> how?
[07:09] <crystufer> I hope it was a free trial.
[07:09] <phwickett> anywho
[07:09] <Dr_willis> SolidSource,  you can install from the livecd..
[07:10] <Dr_willis> SolidSource,  i tend to use the alternative isntall cd.
[07:10] <phwickett> i was wondering if anyone can help me install java and flash
[07:10] <Dr_willis> !java
[07:10] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:10] <Dr_willis> !flash
[07:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:10] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[07:10] <crystufer> lol
[07:10] <phwickett> ive tried
[07:10] <phwickett> im in as rooty
[07:10] <phwickett> root
[07:10] <SolidSource> Dr_willis: so the CD version is a liveCD....now I am currious to what all extra there is
[07:11] <Skuller> SolidSource: yea...u can also install from the cd or the dvd...both act as live as well....even i am curious and want to know whether its worth it
[07:11] <Dr_willis> :)the live cd - last i looked.. included some windows software (gpl) to sort of get windows users interested in the tools..  but i aint checked it out in ages.
[07:11] <Dr_willis> Id just grab the alt-intall cd.. and install that way
[07:12] <Dr_willis> it seems to install faster for me then the livecd
[07:12] <SolidSource> the DVD has some windows stuff on it too
[07:12] <Dr_willis> but its nice to have a livecd or 2, or in my case 20+ around.
[07:12] <Skuller> where to get the alt install cd from?
[07:12] <Dr_willis> the download sites have the various cd's
[07:12] <phwickett> can anyone help me please?
[07:13] <SolidSource> course I got the DVD since I don't like to download cause I have so many problems come about writing my own OS discs
[07:13] <mike__> phwickett: tell all
[07:13] <Dr_willis> phwickett,  whats the actual problem?  i normally just do a 'sudo  apt-get install sun-java5-jre'
[07:13] <phwickett> just trying to install java and flash
[07:13] <SolidSource> ubuntuguide.org
[07:13] <phwickett> they are all on my desktop and ready to install
[07:13] <Dr_willis> and for flash - you enable the backports repo and install the flash-nonfree package (i think)
[07:14] <SolidSource> yep
[07:14] <Dr_willis> you DONT normally just 'download the packages" and install them.. You set up the repos.. and use the package manager to download/install them
[07:14] <mike__> phwickett: enable all repos in synaptic
[07:14] <luca> good day
[07:14] <SolidSource> yes, use package manager...less problems
[07:14] <luca> can someone help me reset the permissions for a ntfs drive?
[07:14] <Crystufer2000> This OS is running so fast!
[07:14] <Dr_willis> luca,  you normally set those when mounting.
[07:15] <Crystufer2000> I just set up a dual boot with windows xp.
[07:15] <Dr_willis> luca,  from the fstab, or the mount command options.
[07:15] <Dr_willis> Defacto NTFS (and works for Vfat as well) guide for your Fstab/mounting of NTFS partitions -->  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume
[07:15] <Crystufer2000> This is way faster.
[07:15] <Dr_willis> !ntfs
[07:15] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:15] <SolidSource> luca: use the disc manager in Kcontrol and remount the partition
[07:15] <luca> I just used ntfsmount to mount it - did I do a wrong thing?
[07:15] <Skuller> SolidSource: Dr_willis: l thnx guys...i will just install the DVD version of kubuntu and get used to it...this is my first experience with a linux OS....just a last question....how do i go about installing the 'extra' software that is on the DVD?
[07:16] <mike__> phwickett: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-11fb3fe3fa63c12a8fc7dfdd67f21adebc4d8a0b
[07:16] <Dr_willis> Skuller,  fire up the package manager, and start clicking.
[07:16] <Dr_willis> Skuller,  of course if it finds updated packages on the net.. it will/should download/install them instead
[07:16] <Skuller> Dr_willis: but wudnt that download from the net instead of gettin it from da DVD?
[07:17] <Dr_willis> as it SHOULD do. :)
[07:17] <Dr_willis> if theres some major security issue.. you would want it to get stuff from the net..
[07:17] <Dr_willis> you got some fetish against downloading stuff?
[07:17] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:17] <SolidSource> Skuller: I'm thinking just use the CD version...I'm thinking the DVD version just has more when using it as a live disc
[07:17] <Dr_willis> SolidSource,  i think so also.
[07:17] <Dr_willis> You dont hear much about people using the dvd version
[07:18] <Skuller> Dr_willis: SolidSource: If i install the older version of softs from the DVD and then update them later on through the net will the updating download the whole SOFT again or just an 'update' for it?
[07:18] <mike__> dvd is not needed!
[07:18] <SolidSource> Skuller: dr_willis: the reason I use it cause I paid $3 so I didn't have to download it
[07:18] <mike__> oh ok
[07:18] <Dr_willis> paid $3?  where? sounds like a rip-off to me.
[07:19] <SolidSource> well $1.95 for the DVD + 95 cents for shipping
[07:19] <luca> where should the disc manager be in Kcontrol?
[07:19] <Skuller> mike__: ok...then i will just install the OS from the DVD and then update using the net....
[07:19] <mike__> Feisty Fawn Herd 4,is the 1st kubuntu i have liked
[07:19] <SolidSource> luca: system administration
[07:20] <SolidSource> mike__: how many problems you run into yet?
[07:20] <SolidSource> yet = so far
[07:21] <mike__> SolidSource: i d/loaded an additional 100+ mb and have the complete kde desktop,Yet to find a prob
[07:21] <luca> uhm how would I UNmount the drive now that I have mounted it with ntfsmount command?
[07:21] <SolidSource> mike__: well when I tried it alot problems came about, especially with samba
[07:21] <mike__> ,Installed,java,firefox,opera,frostwire etc etc
[07:22] <mike__> oh interesting
[07:22] <SolidSource> luca: you select the drive and click disable
[07:22] <willy_> #kubuntu-es
[07:23] <SolidSource> mike__: why you like opera...I find it clumsy and bloated
[07:23] <defiant> Can someone help me install wine please
[07:24] <SolidSource> defiant: adept
[07:24] <mike__> SolidSource: in one word,,gestures
[07:24] <defiant> it is not in there
[07:25] <mike__> SolidSource: with mouse gestures it is faster than the fox
[07:26] <SolidSource> defiant:http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Windows_Applications_in_Linux_.28Wine.29
[07:26] <SolidSource> defiant: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Windows_Applications_in_Linux_.28Wine.29
[07:26] <SolidSource> mike__: don't see much use of that
[07:27] <defiant> I have tried that and I get errors, I have a 64bit machine
[07:27] <mike__> SolidSource: i would not be without it
[07:27] <SolidSource> defiant: what error?
[07:27] <SolidSource> defiant: cause I got 64bit too and no problems
[07:28] <defiant> let me get the error again and I will tell you, one sec please SolidSource
[07:28] <defiant> sudo aptitude install wine
[07:28] <defiant> that part does not work for me
[07:29] <SolidSource> defiant: thats because aptitude isn't in KDE...its apt-get
[07:29] <raylu> aptitude is in kde...it should be
[07:29] <defiant> yea I did apt-get
[07:29] <raylu> what error do you get when you use sudo aptitude, defiant?
[07:29] <feffer> !paste
[07:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:30] <SolidSource> well haven't ever had aptitude command work in kde
[07:30] <raylu> I use it all the time. I never use apt-get
[07:30] <defiant> I used apt-get
[07:30] <defiant> i am paste binning the error now
[07:30] <defiant> http://pastebin.com/882838
[07:31] <SolidSource> oh I know why
[07:31] <SolidSource> that repo only has the 32bit version in it
[07:32] <defiant> so what do I do?
[07:32] <SolidSource> well first you got all the ia32s installed?
[07:32] <defiant> I did everything that tut told me to do up until the apt-get install wine
[07:33] <feffer> Hi all, I'm getting failed dvd burns with k3b-- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6192/
[07:33] <feffer> any ideas?
[07:34] <SolidSource> defiant: you will need to install ia32s
[07:34] <defiant> I do not know what that is
[07:34] <SolidSource> defiant: then download the deb file from http://wiki.winehq.org/UbuntuAMD64
[07:34] <defiant> I have that file
[07:34] <SolidSource> k, follow then follow those directions
[07:35] <defiant> I can't get those to work either
[07:35] <SolidSource> you have to install the ia32s first
[07:35] <defiant> the only reason i need it is becaues I cannot get ff32bit with flash working either
[07:35] <defiant> if I can get that working I do not need wine
[07:35] <lotusleaf> defiant: also see #winehq in the future for wine specific questions
[07:36] <SolidSource> defiant: ok, screw wine then
[07:36] <defiant> SolidSourece: Ok lol
[07:36] <SolidSource> defiant: if you don't install ia32 packages you won't have much luck with 32bit programs
[07:36] <SolidSource> defiant: that is why you can't install flash
[07:36] <defiant> how do I know if they are installed?
[07:37] <SolidSource> defiant: they aren't installed by default...the easiest way is to use adept
[07:38] <defiant> SolidSource: Do I install them all?
[07:39] <reldruh> hello. I just downloaded the feisty fawn herd 4 desktop CD and am trying to burn it with k3b but everytime I do it asks me to insert a double layer DVD+R medium into drive. It recognizes the blank CD-R I have in there just fine. Any ideas on how to get this burned?
[07:39] <lotusleaf> reldruh: #ubuntu+1
[07:39] <reldruh> lotusleaf: ah, thank you
[07:39] <lotusleaf> reldruh: yw ;)
[07:40] <SolidSource> defiant: ia32-libs -libs-gtk -libss-kde -libs-openoffice.org -libs-scim -libs-dls
[07:40] <defiant> SolidSource: installing now
[07:40] <mike__> feisty fawn works well,going to be a good release
[07:41] <reldruh> mike__: is k3b 1.0 in it?
[07:41] <SolidSource> mike__: let me know if you get samba working with wins
[07:42] <mike__> reldruh: 0.12.17
[07:42] <mike__> SolidSource: ok will have a play
[07:43] <mike__> SolidSource: i have never needed samba in the past,,not a big window$ fan
[07:43] <surgy> so how is everyone doing tonight?
[07:43] <SolidSource> mike__: I hate windows...but linux sucks on laptops still
[07:44] <ChaosEddie> surgy: blogging about freedom/capitalism/windows etc
[07:44] <surgy> chaoseddie: mind shareing?
[07:44] <mike__> SolidSource: performs well on my new Toshiba?
[07:44] <mike__> with wireless etc
[07:45] <mike__> 1280x800
[07:45] <surgy> mike_: sucks on my 11 year old toshiba :) but what doesnt?
[07:45] <mike__> surgy: Might be a little ,,err underpowered
[07:45] <SolidSource> mike__: hmmm
[07:46] <defiant> these things download slow
[07:46] <surgy> mike_: 400 mhz.... 4 kb video
[07:46] <mike__> SolidSource: I have sidux on my lapy and it rocks
[07:46] <mike__> deul boot with xp
[07:46] <mike__> I don't see xp hehe
[07:46] <SolidSource> mike__: well can't put it on my laptop yet anyway...no SLI support in linux
[07:46] <mike__> true
[07:46] <intelikey> Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel.
[07:46] <intelikey> [17179572.860000]  pnp: Unable to assign resources to device 00:08.
[07:47] <intelikey> how to find out what 00:08 is ?
[07:51] <intelikey> lspci gives a 0000:00:08.0  0000:00:08.1   0000:00:08.2    so is that where/what it is?
[07:51] <SolidSource> don't know
[07:52] <SolidSource> though I did get that when tried upgrading to fiesty with 3rd party software installed
[07:52] <intelikey> well if so all that is or is on the aic7xxx scsi card
[07:52] <ChaosEddie> surgy: link after im done
[07:53] <intelikey> i guess that's probably what it is.     and  / is on that card so i'll not worry about it
[07:54] <SolidSource> think the only way to upgrade distros is install what current version of it you got on disc then upgrade before installing anything
[07:55] <intelikey> SolidSource or uninstall every thing non-essential then upgrade
[07:55] <intelikey> like the gui for instance
[07:55] <intelikey> xorg is non-essential and if it's not installed it can't cause problems in the upgrade.
[07:56] <surgy> chaoseddie: thnx
[07:56] <SolidSource> yeah, too complicated and could probably take more time than reinstalling from disc
[07:57] <intelikey> not at all.   one for loop  can uninstall all non-essentials   and two commands later you are ready to reinstall what you want.
[07:58] <ubuntu> what is the command to mount a hard drive?
[07:58] <intelikey> mount
[07:59] <intelikey> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media    <<< example only
[07:59] <ubuntu> thought it was more than that
[08:00] <intelikey> mount is the command to mount things   the device node and mountpoint are options to the mount command   and sudo is the command to 'do things as root'
[08:01] <ubuntu> mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[08:01] <intelikey> i stand by my initial answer    Q. what is the command to mount a hard drive?    A. mount
[08:01] <SolidSource> intelikey why not just tell him to use the "kncontrol >> system admin >> disc manager" to do mount...its so much easier and self explaining
[08:02] <intelikey> SolidSource he didn't ask for a gui app   he asked for a command.
[08:02] <SolidSource> true
[08:03] <SolidSource> should have read question closer
[08:03] <intelikey> and ***tell him to use the "kncontrol >> system admin >> disc manager"***   doesn't seem simpler than  *** mount ***  :)
[08:04] <SolidSource> eh, I try not to use konsole too much, can cause too many problems if you misstype something
[08:05] <SolidSource> oh very funny
[08:05] <intelikey> :)
[08:05] <SolidSource> but thats exactly why
[08:05] <netdu1> I installed kde4base on ubuntu dev, I don't see kde on gdm!
[08:06] <netdu1> I don't see any kde application on ubuntu menu
[08:07] <Jucato> netdu1: you really won't, as you seem to have installed the KDE 4 snapshot
[08:07] <intelikey> netdu1 only kdebase  no kdecore  ?
[08:08] <Jucato> netdu1: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.2.php
[08:09] <intelikey> & kdesktop ?
[08:09] <netdu1> I did not find kde4core, I installed kde4base and kde4lib... that's all what I found
[08:09] <SolidSource> do you have the KDE repos?
[08:10] <netdu1> do you mean this? deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.2/ ./
[08:10] <SolidSource> for 1 yes
[08:10] <netdu1> just added
[08:11] <Jucato> he installed the kde 4 snapshots. there will be no kde apps in the menu, nor will there be a kde session unless he adds them manually
[08:11] <Jucato> as instructed in that link above
[08:11] <SolidSource> makes sense
[08:12] <netdu1> still can't fine kde4core
[08:12] <netdu1> find
[08:13] <Jucato> there is no kde4core
[08:14] <intelikey> is this what you got   kde4base_3.80.2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb ?
[08:14] <intelikey> or  kde4base_3.80.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb  ?
[08:15] <netdu1> 3.80.2 yes
[08:15] <Jucato> netdu1: you installed using apt-get right? "sudo apt-get install kde4base"?
[08:15] <Skuller> heyy guys.....i just installed a fresh copy of kubun.....have a lot fo questions...anyone free?
[08:16] <netdu1> yes
[08:16] <SolidSource> skuller sure
[08:16] <Jucato> netdu1: ok... now, have you read the instructions on how to use the KDE 4 snapshots?
[08:16] <Skuller> SolidSource: hey man...cool....firstly i want to be able to read/write to mah NTFS partitions....
[08:16] <intelikey> Skuller no we are all very expensive
[08:16] <Skuller> intelikey: ohh..lol...credit card ne1?
[08:17] <intelikey> !ntfs | Skuller
[08:17] <ubotu> Skuller: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:17] <Alpha_Cluster> wtf is someone in here trying to install KDE4?
[08:17] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g | Skuller
[08:17] <ubotu> Skuller: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:17] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: beats me...
[08:17] <SolidSource> Skuller: well theres that answer for ya
[08:17] <crystufer> !beryl
[08:17] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:17] <intelikey> !fuse  | Skuller
[08:17] <ubotu> Skuller: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:17] <Alpha_Cluster> lol well KDE4 is only a dev package doesnt run at all like a actual interface
[08:18] <Jucato> Alpha_Cluster: I gave him the link w/ instructions, and said a comment or two already... guess it was left unread...
[08:18] <SolidSource> whats with obsession with beryl....
[08:18] <netdu1> Jucato, I'm installing "kde4base-dev" as in instrections
[08:18] <Jucato> netdu1: are you following the instructions on *how* to use it?
[08:18] <Skuller> intelikey: thnx man...just following the first method u said...
[08:19] <Alpha_Cluster> you realize its not guna be a usable environment right?
[08:19] <Jucato> netdu1: also take note: "The second development snapshot of KDE 4 has been released and packages are available for Kubuntu Edgy. **These are intended for developers only**."
[08:19] <intelikey> Skuller don't ignore the second and third posts.  specally the second.
[08:19] <intelikey> Skuller page-up as needed.
[08:19] <Skuller> intelikey: ok...i'll chek it out....btw is FUSE safe?
[08:20] <SolidSource> Skuller: writing to a ntfs is never safe
[08:20] <netdu1> yes, I wanna learn about QT4 and kdelibs... "(07:05:48 AM) netdu1: I installed kde4base on ubuntu dev, I don't see kde on gdm!"
[08:20] <intelikey> safe as in safe sex  or save as not out in baseball ?
[08:20] <Jucato> O.o
[08:20] <SolidSource> thats a good question
[08:21] <naught102> I know the solution, but does anyone know WHY colorzilla doesn't work with ubuntu firefox?
[08:21] <Alpha_Cluster> netdu1: what do you mean?
[08:21] <Jucato> safe as in "this statement won't be sensored because of unfriendly words"
[08:21] <SolidSource> how about safe as in "your machine won't explode"
[08:21] <Jucato> netdu1: then, as I have already said earlier, please read the instructions on that page on how to use it
[08:21] <Skuller> SolidSource: it is not safe for the partition or the file or wat??...i mean i DONT want my XP and its files n my data on ntfs gettin screwed up in ANY way....so shud i have write acces or not?
[08:22] <Jucato> Skuller: better not have write access
[08:22] <Linux_Galore> netdu1: gdm/kdm wont magically see kde4  you have to set it up
[08:22] <netdu1> my problem is that I couldn't find "kde" to chose as desktop, now you pointed to http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.2.php it has this "To run it as a full session copy" which will fix my problem
[08:22] <godvirus> What do I need to install so I can see man pages for C functions like printf/cos/drand() etc?
[08:22] <Alpha_Cluster> netdu1: also that package for KDE4 is ment to be run while in KDE3.5
[08:22] <SolidSource> Skuller: ntfs is too fickle to allow write access...
[08:22] <Linux_Galore> netdu1: read the howto on the kubuntu home page
[08:23] <netdu1> I did not know about
[08:23] <caris_mere> I am missing one of the multiverse repositories? Could somebody type it here please?
[08:23] <Skuller> Jucato: SolidSource: ok thnx guys...then i'll just skip on the write access part...cant afford to screw up anything just coz i want to play music from ntfs
[08:23] <SolidSource> mike__: testing opera to see if mouse gestures are worth my time, where do I set em up?
[08:23] <defiant> SolidSource: It is stuck on the jde agreement screen, how do I say ok?
[08:23] <Linux_Galore> netdu1: aah so people magically learn stuff, dude, if you cant follow a simple howto your going to have allot of fun with kde4 unstable
[08:23] <SolidSource> defiant: tab
[08:24] <Alpha_Cluster> lol
[08:24] <intelikey> netdu1 you were told that it's the developement snapshot, it "doesnt run at all like a actual interface"
[08:24] <caris_mere> I only have the multiverse backports. Could somebody give me the other multiverse repository?
[08:24] <defiant> that did not work
[08:24] <SolidSource> defiant: then when "ok" is highlighted "enter"
[08:24] <Jucato> defiant: are you using Adept?
[08:24] <defiant> yes
[08:24] <Jucato> ouch...
[08:24] <Jucato> you have to close Adept... then run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in Konsole
[08:25] <SolidSource> lol java and adept....sorry not to have mentioned this before....they don't get along
[08:25] <netdu1> I did expect kde to add itself to /usr/share/xsessions
[08:25] <intelikey> caris_mere add multiverse to the universe line/s
[08:25] <godvirus> Can anyone else do `man drand48`?
[08:25] <defiant> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:25] <Linux_Galore> netdu1: aah so now ubuntu magically deleted kde3 and puts kde4 "dont use this unless your mental" in your login
[08:25] <defiant> it told me that dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[08:25] <Jucato> netdu1: well it's not. because the KDE 4 snapshots requires a bit more work. hence it's for developers only. it doesn't work like a normal KDE 3
[08:25] <intelikey> caris_mere   deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main universe multiverse restricted
[08:26] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: I think he's installing on top of Ubuntu/GNOME
[08:26] <caris_mere> intelikey: thanks
[08:26] <SolidSource> defiant: you need to kill the adept process
[08:26] <Alpha_Cluster> that doesnt help the matter
[08:26] <Skuller> k guys thnx....ntfs partition read access done...now to my second query.......How do i enale access to all kinds of repositories in  update thingies?
[08:27] <defiant> I do not know how
[08:27] <Skuller> enable*
[08:27] <Linux_Galore> netdu1: trust me, dont use KDE4, its not even finnshed and you may need to have kde3 installed because you may have to swap the kwin engine
[08:27] <Jucato> defiant: have you closed Adept already?
[08:27] <defiant> yes
[08:27] <Jucato> !adeptfix | defiant
[08:27] <ubotu> defiant: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:27] <intelikey> caris_mere most ubuntu repos   standard update security backports... can have all four listings.  restricted main universe multiverse
[08:27] <SolidSource> Skuller: this will give you most repos you need: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[08:28] <Jucato> defiant: "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock" then "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[08:28] <defiant> ok done
[08:28] <Jucato> SolidSource: thankfully, the Adept + Java thing is fixed in Feisty now :)
[08:28] <SolidSource> Jucato: they finally did that? about time
[08:28] <intelikey> caris_mere in fact my sources.list file has only four lines  and that contains all the ubuntu repos.
[08:28] <defiant> now what?
[08:29] <Jucato> defiant: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"? it should finish up the java install
[08:29] <Linux_Galore> netdu1: if your really desperate to watch your desktop crash once an hour go to the kubuntu.org home page and look at the info were it notes kde 4 optional packages
[08:29] <Jucato> defiant: if not, try installing jde again form the command line this time
[08:29] <defiant> it just brought me back to a command prompt
[08:29] <caris_mere> intelikey: Thanks for the lesson. That's helpful
[08:29] <netdu1> Linux_Galore, I'm not installing kde4 to use kde, this is just vmware, I wanna learn about QT4 and kdelib
[08:30] <Alpha_Cluster> netdu1: qt4 is in 3.5.x right now
[08:30] <Jucato> netdu1: if you *really* want to learn about Qt 4, you don't need to install KDE 4, as Qt 4 and Qt 3 can (and already do) live side by side
[08:30] <defiant> jucato: I don't know how and each time I look it up it does not work for me
[08:30] <Jucato> defiant: what's the package name you're trying to install? sun-java5-xxx?
[08:30] <SolidSource> defiant: you need the JRE file
[08:30] <defiant> the one that was in adept
[08:30] <intelikey> caris_mere welcome or don't mock me... which ever that was :)    hard to hear the inflection or see the expression over irc   so one never knows.
[08:31] <Jucato> netdu1: if you really want to learn about KDE 4, then start learning to compile/build KDE 4 from source code
[08:31] <Alpha_Cluster> tru dat
[08:32] <Jucato> netdu1: because the kde4 packages in Kubuntu presume you're already a developer and know your way around already
[08:32] <Skuller> SolidSource: i have created the sources list with my preference of repos in it...now what?
[08:32] <defiant> now my adept won't open
[08:32] <caris_mere> intelikey: I thought that might sound bad, but that was a thanks
[08:32] <SolidSource> defiant: go to java.com download the "Linux (self-extracting file)" and follow those instructions
[08:32] <intelikey> k
[08:32] <Jucato> SolidSource: hm.. no need for that... Ubuntu already has the latest version in -backports
[08:32] <defiant> there are four different ones there
[08:32] <Jucato> defiant: install java from the command line
[08:32] <SolidSource> Skuller: now you can start working on getting things installed....run "sudo apt-get update" or fetch updates button in adept
[08:32] <Linux_Galore> netdu1: thats why it says "dont use these packages unless your a developer", a developer doesnt even need an entry in gdmkdm because he knows he can run multiple desktop session from the virtual terminals
[08:33] <Jucato> defiant: which java are you trying to install? jre or jdk?
[08:33] <Skuller> SolidSource: the sources list is still open in KATE....has it been replaced with the original sources list?
[08:33] <SolidSource> Jucato: never got java working correctly doing it that way....always just manually downloaded the file and installed...works every time
[08:33] <defiant> whatever one was part of the ia32
[08:33] <SolidSource> Skuller: save and cloase it
[08:33] <defiant> I need to get this stuff to work in 32bit firefox on an amd 64
[08:33] <SolidSource> defiant: don't install that
[08:34] <Jucato> hm....
[08:34] <Jucato> !firefox > Jucato
[08:34] <defiant> I thought that is what we where doing SolidSource?
[08:34] <defiant> I need flash to work in FF
[08:34] <defiant> and java
[08:34] <Jucato> !flash64
[08:34] <Skuller> SolidSource: sorry for the fuss....but shudnt i save it somewhere and replace sumthing with it rather than just clickin on 'save'?
[08:34] <SolidSource> defiant: yes but not that one
[08:34] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[08:34] <defiant> and I am running a 64bit machine
[08:35] <Linux_Galore> defiant: then install them
[08:35] <SolidSource> defiant: the ia32 java is not what you install for java
[08:35] <Linux_Galore> !java
[08:35] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:35] <Crystufer2000> !beryl
[08:35] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:35] <SolidSource> Skuller: kate automatically makes a backup in the /etc/apt
[08:35] <Linux_Galore> beryl = desktop suicide
[08:35] <defiant> that link that ubotu game me does not work for me
[08:36] <defiant> the first step fails
[08:36] <Skuller> SolidSource: thnx a lot...i will do the nevessary updating + package installing now....
[08:36] <SolidSource> defiant: these instructions never failed me: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Java_v5.0.11_for_Firefox32
[08:36] <intelikey> kate 'by default' makes backups of files you edit in the same dir as the file, if you have write access there.
[08:37] <Linux_Galore> defiant: did you tell your system what you want the default version of java to be, dont forget Firefox  just looks for the "java" binary, in reality its just a ling to a set version of java
[08:37] <Linux_Galore> link*
[08:37] <defiant> I am lost here
[08:37] <SolidSource> defiant: using apt-get and adept seem to crash or fail
[08:37] <defiant> I am getting different instructions
[08:38] <Linux_Galore> defiant: no this is in the howto, you missed some of it
[08:39] <Linux_Galore> defiant: type  sudo update-alternatives --config java  select your default java version
[08:39] <intelikey> welcome back scott
[08:40] <SolidSource> defiant: linux_galore: if you use the instructions ubuntuguide.org gives, it will work
[08:40] <SolidSource> Linux_Galore: I don't think he has java installed at all, it crashed on him
[08:41] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: I know, but most users just install java and then forget to define it as the default
[08:41] <defiant> this step does not work
[08:41] <defiant> gksudo gedit /etc/pango32/pangorc &
[08:41] <SolidSource> Linux_Galore: has to have it installed first
[08:41] <Skuller> !amarok | skuller
[08:42] <intelikey> gksudo and gedit are both 'nome apps
[08:42] <intelikey> replace with kdesu kate
[08:42] <Linux_Galore> defiant: wrong distro instructions
[08:43] <defiant> ok
[08:43] <SolidSource> Linux_Galore: what are?
[08:43] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: he's trying to use a the ubuntu instructions with gnome commands in kubuntu
[08:44] <defiant> so now what
[08:44] <intelikey> gksudo and gedit are both 'nome apps
[08:44] <intelikey> replace with kdesu kate
[08:44] <intelikey> kdesu kate /etc/pango32/pangorc
[08:44] <SolidSource> defiant: linux_galore: it doesn't matter only do cd ~/Desktop sudo chmod 777 ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin sudo ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin
[08:45] <SolidSource> defiant: linux_galore: it doesn't matter only do cd ~/Desktop sudo chmod 777 ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin sudo ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin
[08:45] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: eer this is Linux not windows and java is in the repo
[08:45] <Skuller> SolidSource: how do i open the sources thingy from the terminal to enable/disable repos?
[08:45] <SolidSource> Linux_Galore: fine...just the repo has alway crashed
[08:45] <intelikey> 777 ?
[08:46] <intelikey> 500 :)
[08:46] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: ?? there is more than one mirror
[08:46] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: if apt is broken then run  sudo  dpkg --configure -a    usually fixes it
[08:46] <SolidSource> Linux_Galore: no I mean it has caused adept and even using konsole has crashed trying to use repo to install jave
[08:46] <SolidSource> java
[08:47] <SolidSource> Skuller: sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:47] <SolidSource> Skuller: just place a # in front of the lines
[08:47] <intelikey> !kdesu
[08:47] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[08:47] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: eer you dont use adept to install java unless your on feisty 4
[08:47] <defiant> ok well none of these instructions are working for me, I still get errors
[08:47] <defiant> or the commands not found
[08:47] <Skuller> SolidSource: if i place a # they get disabled or enabled?
[08:47] <SolidSource> Linux_Galore: again even using konsole commands it fails
[08:48] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: adept cant install java because there is no were for you to agree to the license
[08:48] <SolidSource> Skuller: # = disables
[08:48] <Skuller> SolidSource: i get a big error message.....should i give u the pastebin link?
[08:48] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: strange I admin a whole pile of machines and for some weird reason it always works
[08:48] <SolidSource> Linux_Galore: well there is...just have to click "show details"
[08:48] <intelikey> Skuller in most configs   # = ignore the rest of this line        also in most scripts    but there are exceptions.
[08:49] <SolidSource> Skuller: yeah pastebin
[08:49] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: yes but it doesnt always register
[08:49] <SolidSource> Linux_Galore: I know and I haven't denied that
[08:49] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: anyway this has been fixed in feisty
[08:50] <SolidSource> Linux_Galore: but doing through konsole hasn't worked using apt-get commands either
[08:50] <intelikey> Skuller in the sources.list   # is the comment char.     every thing after a  #  on any given line is ignored by apt
[08:50] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: tells me apt - jamed run the dpkg  --configure -a  command
[08:50] <Skuller> intelikey: yea thnx....i got that part...but i m gettin an error mssge wen i try to see the sources file
[08:50] <Linux_Galore> SolidSource: put sudo in front of it
[08:51] <ChaosEddie> surgy: BLOG! It only took me 40 hours too. posingaspopular.wordpress.com this is my first *Serious* blog on a *Serious* topic
[08:51] <Skuller> SolidSource: intelikey: http://pastebin.com/882870
[08:51] <SolidSource> Linux_Galore: I know all that...done it never worked
[08:51] <intelikey> looking
[08:51] <intelikey> well if the page will load....
[08:51] <crystufer2000> !beryl
[08:51] <Linux_Galore> Im out
[08:51] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:52] <SolidSource> intelikey: skuller: wow
[08:52] <SolidSource> Skuller: what have you done so far?
[08:52] <intelikey> Skuller i told you used kdesu not sudo...   close the console and reopen it.  then   kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:52] <Skuller> SolidSource: what happ?...is it bad?
[08:52] <intelikey> used/use
[08:53] <SolidSource> intelikey: whats wrong with sudo?
[08:53] <caris_mere> in which repository is the libxine-extracodecs?
[08:53] <intelikey> !libxine-extracodecs
[08:53] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[08:54] <surgy> chaoseddie: ok thnx
[08:54] <caris_mere> intelikey: I put in those repositories, but it can't find the libxine-extracodecs
[08:54] <defiant> I have tried 4 different sets of instructions and none of them work
[08:54] <intelikey> did you update caris_mere ?
[08:54] <caris_mere> intelikey: yes
[08:55] <intelikey> caris_mere sudo apt-get update   ?
[08:55] <SolidSource> intelikey: hmm...never had problem
[08:55] <intelikey> SolidSource obviously someone did.
[08:55] <ChaosEddie> everyone in the room is invited to come read it
[08:55] <Skuller> SolidSource: intelikey: http://pastebin.com/882872
[08:55] <SolidSource> defiant: which haven't?
[08:56] <defiant> none of these things work for me to install 32bit firefox and flash
[08:56] <Skuller> SolidSource: intelikey: this is with the kdesu and not sudo....btw in both cases the file does open in kate....but the errors show in the terminal....another thing is that the file does not have the extra repos that i added using the o-matic site u gave me
[08:56] <intelikey> Skuller are you asking how to get rid of those error messages ?
[08:57] <Skuller> intelikey: i m askin why are the error mess there
[08:57] <SolidSource> Skuller: those messages are normal
[08:57] <SolidSource> Skuller: if you don't edit the sources.list with kdesu or sudo...it won't be able to save
[08:58] <SolidSource> defiant: ok time to back track....did you manage to get through all the install of java?
[08:58] <Skuller> SolidSource: ok....and what about the automatic sources list generation site that u gave me....it did not add the repos to my sources file
[08:58] <defiant> no
[08:58] <intelikey> Skuller cause the ubuntu developers decided that it was easier for people to ignore those error messages than for people that have wacon devices to configure xorg.conf so they would work.   in short your xorg.conf is configured for three wacom devices you don't have.
[08:58] <caris_mere> intelikey: sorry, was just a typo
[08:58] <SolidSource> Skuller: thats because you didn't copy and paste them over into the file
[08:58] <dettoaltrimenti_> I'm trying to load some proprietary drivers in kubuntu on a dv6000 hp pavilion laptop. Is there a terminal command where I can see what drivers my ethernet card is using? Is there a command where I can see if my ethernet hardware is even being recognized?
[08:59] <SolidSource> defiant: ok
[08:59] <Skuller> SolidSource: ohh...so u mean i have to open the the file using the terminal first...and then paste and replace the contents of the file from the site generated one?
[08:59] <SolidSource> Skuller: yes
[08:59] <Skuller> intelikey: thank you....that was a releif to know
[08:59] <Skuller> SolidSource: thnx...then i'll do just that
[09:00] <SolidSource> defiant: where have you gotten to?
[09:00] <defiant> nothing because no tutorials are working for me
[09:00] <SolidSource> defiant: I mean how far do you get into the install before it fails
[09:01] <adydas> to mount a smbfs device you use cifs?
[09:01] <defiant> I don't even know which tut to try because neither of them worked with the first step
[09:01] <adydas> mount -F cifs -o username=x,password=y //xthdd/store /store
[09:01] <intelikey> Skuller if you don't mind editing configs  it's not hard to fix those error messages.  but they are not considered 'offically' to be errors, nor dangerous.
[09:01] <SolidSource> defiant: not even ubuntuguide.org?
[09:02] <defiant> no
[09:02] <surgy> does kubuntu by defualt have a software firewall?
[09:02] <SolidSource> defiant: need to know what error messages you are getting
[09:02] <adydas> surgy: yes
[09:02] <SolidSource> surgy: yes, iptables
[09:02] <surgy> adydas: how do i open ports on it?
[09:03] <Skuller> intelikey: then its ok...i wudnt want to mess around with anything that i dont need to at this moment bcoz of my null experience with linux
[09:03] <intelikey> Jucato it's been so long now sense i've see them, what are they again  eraser mouse and what ???
[09:03] <defiant> SolidSource: I did this : sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[09:03] <defiant> and I got this error
[09:03] <defiant> I wasn't able to locate a file for the ia32-sun-java5-bin package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch)
[09:03] <defiant> E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?
[09:03] <surgy> skuller: i fixed those errors and now i feal empty inside :( lol
[09:04] <surgy> !firewall
[09:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:04] <Skuller> surgy: lol
[09:04] <intelikey> Skuller i stand under you.
[09:04] <Skuller> intelikey: thnx man
[09:04] <Skuller> intelikey: n no u dont
[09:05] <intelikey> then what means "understand" ?
[09:05] <SolidSource> defiant: well again...you don't use the ia32-sun-java5 packages
[09:05] <surgy> umm udotu tells me that my firewall is set to inactive by defualt, but i suspect it is blocking a specific port.....
[09:05] <Skuller> ok guys my adept managet aint starting
[09:05] <defiant> I have even tried this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435
[09:05] <intelikey> means litterally to stand below.  as if to exhalt another.
[09:06] <Skuller> what can i do now?
[09:06] <intelikey> !adeptcrash | Skuller
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adeptcrash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <intelikey> err.
[09:06] <surgy> !adeptfix
[09:06] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:07] <SolidSource> defiant: ok for java thats correct....but theres no ia32-sun-java mentioned in there for you to use
[09:07] <surgy> intelikey: can you give me the command to open all ports on my firewall to lan traffic?
[09:07] <defiant> I tried this tut and it did not work either
[09:07] <Skuller> intelikey: ohh....thnx man....fer da exalt part...i do a   lot to u all too
[09:07] <nomad111> hey all how do i beryl-manager to my sesssion startup in kde
[09:07] <niblets> I turned on my computer today, and discovered that Amarok no longer plays MP3, I get the message "Could not load media, (not playable)" when I try to play one. And when Amarok starts, ti say "Amarok can not currently play Mp3"
[09:08] <surgy> nomad111: check #beryl?
[09:08] <nomad111> surgy: im just asking in general actually
[09:08] <nomad111> surgy: how to make certain programs start with each session
[09:08] <ChaosEddie> surgy: did you get a chance to read it? thoghts?
[09:08] <surgy> nomad111: actually i dont understand the question
[09:08] <SolidSource> defiant: here is all that you have to do::: 1. download java from java.com to your desktop 2. cd ~/Desktop 3. sudo chmod 777 ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin 4. sudo ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin
[09:09] <surgy> chaoseddie actually it will be  a while, im having problems with my network
[09:09] <niblets> Any ideas what might cause this, and how I can fix it?
[09:09] <intelikey> surgy heh no.   i'm network illiterate.    but it's something along the lines of  iptables -A eth0 accept all    (i know that's not right. just a jesture in the general dirrection)
[09:09] <SolidSource> err hate how it doesn't allow seperation of lines
[09:09] <surgy> intelikey: thnx
[09:09] <SolidSource> defiant: I'll put it line by line if you want
[09:09] <intelikey> man iptables
[09:10] <defiant> please because i am completely lost
[09:10] <ChaosEddie> surgy: nextwork first. ttyl i think im about to go to sleep.
[09:10] <intelikey> surgy or even better  download and use quicktables
[09:10] <SolidSource> defiant: ok download java to your desktop the linux self-extracting one
[09:10] <defiant> there are 4 there
[09:10] <defiant> do I need the one for 64bit
[09:11] <SolidSource> defiant: no
[09:11] <surgy> chaoseddie: ok seeya laterz
[09:11] <surgy> intelikey is it easier to use?
[09:11] <defiant> rpm or not?
[09:11] <intelikey> surgy it's a pretty cool script that will setup a firewall or help you reconfigure one.  and even has a really handy script "quickblock" to un/block ports/ips/ranges
[09:11] <SolidSource> defiant: non-RPM
[09:11] <defiant> ok downloaded
[09:11] <SolidSource> defiant: this is debian based distro....no RPMs used
[09:12] <surgy> intelikey kewl
[09:12] <SolidSource> defiant: ok type "cd ~/Desktop"
[09:12] <intelikey> surgy put it this way.  i know nothing about networking and i have and can use quicktables
[09:12] <defiant> done
[09:12] <SolidSource> defiant: then "sudo chmod 777 ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin"
[09:12] <defiant> k
[09:12] <SolidSource> defiant: then "sudo ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin"
[09:13] <surgy> intelikey: its kewl im getting pings back and forth now, just gotta work on stability
[09:13] <defiant> done
[09:13] <SolidSource> surgy: you could try firestart or guardog
[09:13] <SolidSource> defiant: it work?
[09:14] <defiant> that finished and said done
[09:14] <SolidSource> surgy: firestarter or guarddog
[09:14] <SolidSource> defiant: ok now, did you install firefox using adept?
[09:14] <defiant> the one that comes installed
[09:14] <mike__> I use synaptic
[09:15] <SolidSource> defiant: so konqueror
[09:15] <mike__> or apt-get
[09:15] <defiant> no
[09:15] <defiant> firefox is installed
[09:15] <SolidSource> defiant: interesting....and odd
[09:15] <mike__> Not on my iso
[09:15] <defiant> it came installed when i installed kubuntu
[09:15] <SolidSource> not for me
[09:15] <mike__> or me
[09:16] <defiant> I don't know i am using it now and I did not install it
[09:16] <SolidSource> defiant: well if it is truly firefox....go into your home folder
[09:16] <mike__> defiant: did you d/load updates?