[11:18] <linuxx> does anyone know a solution for "(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!" ??? I've been searching google for almost 4 hours now
[11:18] <adaptr> Cosmo_: bad, bad, bad.. well, last resort, really
[11:19] <adaptr> linuxx: the problem is simple: you don't have it loaded
[11:19] <Linuxnewbie756> chowmeined: what is that? will it work, and how can i use it?
[11:19] <Jaso1> Tried to install 2nd hard-drive. I installed ubuntu to both hardrives but believe that the 2nd hard-drive is non-functional... we have disconnected it. Now when we boot up with second hard-drive disconnected we get a blinking cursor. I'm pretty sure that GRUB is trying to boot to second harddrive..(the second harddrive was slave...the primary drive is master) When we press the F2 key...it takes about 4 minutes but boots into ubuntu.
[11:19] <adaptr> linuxx: the solution MAY be simple: do a "sudo modprobe nvidia"
[11:19] <Linuxnewbie756> chowmeined: wait, never mind, it works
[11:19] <chowmeined> Linuxnewbie756: cat outputs the context of the file *.txt (everything that ends in .txt... ) and >> appends to another file /home/you/somefile.txt
[11:19] <chowmeined> yea it does..
[11:19] <linuxx> adaptr, it doesnt even work when I add nvidia to /etc/modules
[11:19] <Andy9215> when I install ubuntu it deletes windows right?
[11:20] <chowmeined> glad you want to know why..
[11:20] <adaptr> linuxx: that's not what I said
[11:20] <chowmeined> so you can use it again in the future
[11:20] <adaptr> Andy9215: erm.. no
[11:20] <Andy9215> I wanna delete my windows and install ubuntu
[11:20] <chowmeined> Andy9215: no
[11:20] <chowmeined> Andy9215: well you can choose to do that
[11:20] <Suurorca> Andy9215: only if you keep clicking yes to all questions...
[11:20] <adaptr> Andy9215: then opt for that during the install
[11:20] <LordLimecat> when compiling the kernel, should ext3 be built as a module, or built in?
[11:20] <jeeves_Moss> has anyone figured out the security issue with the Athroes WiFi cards?
[11:20] <retarded> well i catched myself installing virtual box to run xp tho :(
[11:20] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: best to build that in.. not module.. unless you have a initramfs
[11:21] <adaptr> LordLimecat: if your root partition is ext3, methinks you'd better build it in...
[11:21] <linuxx> adaptr, so adding "modprobe nvidia" to /etc/rc.local should work, shouldnt it?
[11:21] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: but even still its easier to build it in.. and you will always be using it so..
[11:21] <adaptr> linuxx: no, because you still have not done what I told you to
[11:21] <LordLimecat> thats what i thought...but its set as module by default in make menuconfig...and initramfs isnt selectable
[11:21] <Jaso1> Armyriad: Can help me. Tried to install 2nd hard-drive. I installed ubuntu to both hardrives but believe that the 2nd hard-drive is non-functional... we have disconnected it. Now when we boot up with second hard-drive disconnected we get a blinking cursor. I'm pretty sure that GRUB is trying to boot to second harddrive..(the second harddrive was slave...the primary drive is master) When we press the F2 key...it takes about 4 minutes but
[11:21] <LordLimecat> only real benefit to module is "loaded on demand" right
[11:22] <Parabola> Jaso1,  have you tried resetting up grub?
[11:22] <adaptr> linuxx: run "lsmod | grep nvidia", if that comes up empty, run "sudo modprobe nvidia"
[11:22] <jeeves_Moss> anyone?  WiFi issues?
[11:22] <linuxx> adaptr, it doesnt come up empty, because nvidia is loaded
[11:22] <armyriad> Jasol: Sorry but I don't know how to help you.
[11:22] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: pretty much.. but if you system uses ext3 .. you are always using that so there is no point to load on demand for something you always use
[11:22] <adaptr> linuxx: which one
[11:22] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: plus modules tend to be slightly slower
[11:22] <linuxx> adaptr, the one from nvidia.com
[11:22] <ctkroeker> I want to use Muse streamer and a soundrecorder script simultaniously on the same computer, both taking the same source, line in on one sondcard. Right now if I try it it conflicts and says the soundcard is in use (by the one that get's it first).
[11:23] <RaverWild>  people another problem: the sound driver i am default with on edgy seems to not work properly cause it plays only on the right speaker. does anyone could help with ideas on what to do? newbie here
[11:23] <LordLimecat> oh! that was good to know, thanks :D
[11:23] <adaptr> linuxx: that's not very smart, nor necessary
[11:23] <Jaso1> Parabola: Yes, we tried reinstalling ubuntu...is there another way to reset grub??
[11:23] <adaptr> linuxx: stick with the ubuntu-provided version
[11:23] <Parabola> Jaso1,  yes sir there is :)
[11:23] <adaptr> Jaso1: god yes, of course there is
[11:23] <adaptr> poor sod
[11:23] <LordLimecat> last question....XFS is "better" in most regards than ext3, correct (except perhaps stability?)?
[11:23] <Jaso1> Parabola: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409918     here is more detail about my configuratiuon..might save you time??? Thanks!!! :)
[11:23] <Parabola> Jaso1,  boot up the ubuntu cd to the live desktop, mount your installed partition
[11:23] <crimsun> ghaaly: did you attach the additional information I requested?
[11:23] <adaptr> LordLimecat: define "better"
[11:23] <linuxx> adaptr, I know, but when I try to install nvidia-glx, apt wants to remove a lot of packages like xserver-xorg, vlc, and a lot of libs
[11:24] <LordLimecat> faster, less overhead
[11:24] <Parabola> Jaso1,  one sec i'll read the link
[11:24] <LordLimecat> stable "enough"
[11:24] <Jaso1> thanks!
[11:24] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: it is faster in certain situations.. it has some cool unique features
[11:24] <Parabola> np
[11:24] <Andy9215> Should I use KillDisk to wipe my harddrive?
[11:24] <stephen> whats the command to play a sound file?
[11:24] <LordLimecat> alright
[11:24] <adaptr> linuxx: drop to a console, remove the nvidia driver, and aptitude install linux-restricted-modules && nvidia-glx, that should take care of it
[11:24] <ghaaly> crimsun, you didn't request anything except the link I've mentioned
[11:24] <LordLimecat> cause 2gb of overhead for ext3 is pretty harsh :(
[11:24] <ghaaly> crimsun, that consist of all the output of the neccessary information
[11:25] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: if you want to try it out.. make another partition with it.. and play around with it.. but ext3 is default on almost all linux distros.. so nothing compares in terms of tested and stable
[11:25] <stephen> is there a way to play a sound file in linux through console with no gui?
[11:25] <adaptr> LordLimecat: I think it depends hugely on th e kind of applications you run on it
[11:25] <apocalyptica> i could really use some help with my device manager
[11:25] <apocalyptica> it wont open
[11:25] <wdr1_> hi all... trying to configure my linksys wireless card:  does it matter if the device name is ra0 vs. wlan0  \
[11:25] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: 2GB of overhead?.. no...
[11:25] <adaptr> stephen: use "play" ?
[11:25] <adaptr> stephen: sndplay, or summin like that
[11:25] <LordLimecat> that was my understanding, that ext3=rock solid, xfs=faster
[11:25] <stephen> adaptr, I'll try it
[11:25] <adaptr> LordLimecat: where did you get that "understanding" ?
[11:25] <xtknight> we can't use images in the Ubuntu wiki?
[11:25] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: 5% is reserved for superuser be default (in case it fills up, so it doesn't crash the system)
[11:25] <sorcerer> doesnyt any one knwo hwo o get this digital camera installed on ubuntu .. i used GTkam .. but doesnt redonize the camera ???
[11:25] <LordLimecat> numerous reviews
[11:25] <ghaaly> crimsun, ?
[11:25] <linuxx> adaptr, any hints on removing it? since its not an deb or such
[11:26] <vox754> wdr1_, it doesn't matter, it maybe ra0 because it is a ralink chipset, you need to know the chipset
[11:26] <stephen> sndplay crashed
[11:26] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: so a standard user can't mess things up
[11:26] <apocalyptica> does anyone have any clue why my device manager wont open
[11:26] <adaptr> linuxx: use the provided uninstall script, or go to nvidia to find out ? I have no idea, I never install their versions
[11:26] <wdr1_> thx, vox... didn't think it was a big deal, but wanted to check (it's not working)
[11:26] <LordLimecat> chowmeined: that explains that chunk of space
[11:26] <zack-> Woot 7.04
[11:26] <ctkroeker>  I want to use Muse streamer and a soundrecorder script simultaniously on the same computer, both taking the same source, line in on one sondcard. Right now if I try it it conflicts and says the soundcard is in use (by the one that get's it first).
[11:26] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: but every partition should be that way.. for safety.. you can reduce it if you want
[11:26] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: if you only want 500MB or something..
[11:26] <Mandatory> Does anyone know why my headphone-jack isn't working (Its a Sigmatel sounddevice)
[11:26] <Apocalyptica00> hey
[11:27] <foug> is there a way to take off the window closing effect besides through gconf-editor?
[11:27] <stephen> adaptr, play doesn't crash but there is no sound
[11:27] <kane77> how do I reload the .bashrc?
[11:27] <adaptr> stephen: and the mixer is turned up ?
[11:27] <wdr1_> vox, does it tell me anything if i have in IPv6 address (inet6) IP, but no line for just inet?
[11:27] <LordLimecat> ah
[11:27] <adaptr> kane77: source it
[11:27] <foug> stephen: is your sound not working? has it ever worked?
[11:27] <vox754> !leet this is wrong
[11:27] <Apocalyptica00> My device manager will not openn
[11:27] <LordLimecat> live and learn :D
[11:28] <stephen> YES it has I've played movies and other songs and flash movies and such
[11:28] <stephen> it all works
[11:28] <ghaaly> crimsun, alive ?
[11:28] <Apocalyptica00> will someone please help me before i go insane
[11:28] <foug> stephen: it just stopped working?
[11:28] <stephen> nope
[11:28] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: tune2fs -m 2% /dev/hda1 or whichever
[11:28] <Apocalyptica00> can anyone even see what i am writing
[11:28] <stephen> foug, playing that 70s show
[11:28] <stephen> i hear it fine
[11:29] <foug> o
[11:29] <retarded> ok last not ubuntu related question . could you name a channel where you can have a laugh ??
[11:29] <stephen> wait
[11:29] <stephen> no no more sound now
[11:29] <vox754> wdr1_, I think you may have problems with IPv6
[11:29] <wdr1_> anyone know why my wireless setup would have an inet6 IP but no entry for inet?  (checking via ifconfig)
[11:29] <Crazytom> Apocalyptica00, yes i see it
[11:29] <stephen> foug, no no more sound now
[11:29] <LordLimecat> ill try that (after getting my kernel compiled and working
[11:29] <Apocalyptica00> thank god
[11:29] <stephen> foug, what happened?
[11:29] <foug> stephen: it just stops working randomy? i dunno aobut that one
[11:29] <vox754> !ipv6 > wdr1_
[11:29] <Apocalyptica00> can you help me out
[11:29] <Crazytom> wdr1_, what chipset is the card?
[11:29] <chowmeined> wdr1_: if dhcp wasn't working properly.. ipv6 gives a standard address based on the mac address that is used in the local network
[11:29] <foug> stephen: mine stopped working last night but it was because it got muted somehow. I went into alsamixer and unmuted all my chanels and it worked
[11:29] <stephen> foug, no it stopped working when I issued the command play
[11:30] <foug> stephen: ahh
[11:30] <chowmeined> wdr1_: so ipv6 should always have an address
[11:30] <crimsun> ghaaly: no, I asked you to add /proc/asound/card0/codec*
[11:30] <wdr1_> it's a linksys card, i believe ra chipset?
[11:30] <stephen> foug, any Idea?
[11:30] <tjcarter> Gotta love Debian-based systems!  I told it to install hplip.  I get:
[11:30] <tjcarter> 0 upgraded, 94 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:30] <DeedleFake3690> Hello, I am trying to get a Belkin Wi-Fi card (Broadcom chipset: bcm43xx) to work. I've gotten it to the point where I can see all the other networks around me, and I can connect to unencrypted and WEP-encrypted networks using network manager, but I can't connect to WPA-encrypted networks. I can see them but not connect.
[11:30] <Apocalyptica00> Crazytom: Do you know why my device manager stopped working
[11:30] <wdr1_> ah, so getting an IPv6 doesn't really say anything
[11:30] <foug> stephen: not a clue man, i'm kind of new to linux tbh
[11:30] <VSpike> eck: added myself to dspam group and logged out/in which has helped.  Also fixed perms on /var/log/dspam to allow write for dspam group whihc allows debug output to write there... but still not working properly
[11:30] <tjcarter> 94 packages installed for hplip.
[11:30] <Crazytom> Apocalyptica00, sorry i don't
[11:30] <stephen> foug, me too... lol
[11:30] <Apocalyptica00> thanks
[11:30] <tjcarter> On A Server.
[11:30] <ghaaly> ghaaly, again
[11:30] <chowmeined> tjcarter: try disabling the option: "Install all recommended packages"
[11:30] <ghaaly> crimsun, request again
[11:30] <stephen> ANYONE KNOW STUFF ABOUT SOUND? #sound?
[11:30] <foug> does anyone kjnow how i can take off window closing and opening effects besides through gconf-editor?
[11:30] <VSpike> eck: "cat spamtestmessage | dspam --classify" should output something, right?
[11:31] <ghaaly> crimsun, What do you want me to do exactly ?
[11:31] <LordLimecat> stephen: try #alsa
[11:31] <ghaaly> crimsun, comand
[11:31] <chowmeined> tjcarter: if this is aptitude.. it has that option on by default
[11:31] <crimsun> ghaaly: ? I just told you what you need to attach.
[11:31] <tjcarter> chowmeined: no, generally not doing that is a bad thing.
[11:31] <ghaaly> crimsun, give me the command
[11:31] <Crazytom> wdr1_, do you know what chipset your wireless card is?
[11:31] <tjcarter> chowmeined: I'm just pointing out the linking madness
[11:31] <chowmeined> tjcarter: no recommended packages are just thinks they 'like' to have.. not things they need (dependencies)
[11:32] <tjcarter> chowmeined: I recall having this discussion ages ago with Culus.
[11:32] <wdr1_> crazy, ra?
[11:32] <tjcarter> chowmeined: suggests are things you would like to have, recommended are things you should have unless you damned well know better.
[11:32] <wdr1_> i know the specific linksys model -- let me see if i can google & find the specific chipset
[11:32] <jmvidalvia> hello: one question. Do I need to open port 22 using NAT if I want to acces a remote PC using ssh or it is already opened by default?
[11:32] <ghaaly> crimsun, I've /proc/asound/card0/codec#0
[11:32] <jmvidalvia> I mean, open the port in the router
[11:32] <tjcarter> this is why as far back as dselect existed, it enforced recommends (as dependencies, mind)
[11:32] <crimsun> ghaaly: yes, now paste its contents into that page.
[11:33] <crimsun> ghaaly: then tell me the new url
[11:33] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: are you connecting to another machine? or want to connect to this one?
[11:33] <tjcarter> I don't know if it still does enforce them as dependencies.
[11:33] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: I want to connect to another machine
[11:33] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: then you shouldn't need to open anything
[11:33] <LordLimecat> do sata/pata drivers need to be built in, or is module fine
[11:34] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: you probably want to have the drivers for your chipset compiled in
[11:34] <LordLimecat> alright, thanks
[11:34] <Jaso1> Parabola:  No hurry.  Just
[11:34] <ferronica> hi
[11:34] <tjcarter> I patched it not to, but my patches for dselect were rejected in general without reading them because IWJ didn't think someone who was still learning a language was compitent to patch his code.  ;)
[11:34] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: if you run 'lspci' you can see all the hardware you have (version) and it should match up to the things in make menuconfig
[11:34] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: will the router send my sign to the machine directly? Of course, I am trying to connect to a machine out of my lAN.
[11:34] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: also lsusb will show usb devices
[11:34] <Parabola> Jaso1,  sorry mate
[11:34] <Parabola> roomate called
[11:34] <Parabola> 1. Boot from a Live CD, like Ubuntu Live, Knoppix, Mepis, or similar.
[11:35] <Parabola> 2. Open a Terminal. Go SuperUser (that is, type "su"). Enter root passwords as necessary.
[11:35] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: your username and password?
[11:35] <Parabola> 3. Type "grub" which makes a GRUB prompt appear.
[11:35] <Parabola> 4. Type "find /boot/grub/stage1". You'll get a response like "(hd0)" or in my case "(hd0,3)". Use whatever your computer spits out for the following lines.
[11:35] <Parabola> 5. Type "root (hd0,3)".
[11:35] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: what do you mean?
[11:35] <LordLimecat> alright
[11:35] <Parabola> 6. Type "setup (hd0,3)". This is key. Other instructions say to use "(hd0)", and that's fine if you want to write GRUB to the MBR. If you want to write it to your linux root partition, then you want the number after the comma, such as "(hd0,3)".
[11:35] <LordLimecat> that works :D
[11:35] <Jaso1> Parabola:  We've already done this
[11:35] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: i am not sure what you are asking
[11:35] <Parabola> Jaso1,  oh
[11:35] <Jaso1> Parabola: it was in that link
[11:36] <DeedleFake3690> Hello, I am trying to get a Belkin Wi-Fi card (Broadcom chipset: bcm43xx) to work with wpa encryption. I've gotten it to the point where I can see all the other networks around me, and I can connect to unencrypted and WEP-encrypted networks using network manager, but I can't connect to WPA-encrypted networks. Any suggestions?
[11:36] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: the remote computer needs to have port 22 open for you to connect
[11:36] <ferronica> how do i remove openwith shortcut
[11:36] <Parabola> ah yes
[11:36] <Parabola> i didnt read the responses
[11:36] <Jaso1> Parabola: It is hd0,0 for us
[11:36] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: when you connect it will ask for your password.. if you need to use another username use: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:36] <sorcerer> hey whats the server called gimp .. something ?
[11:36] <chowmeined> somewhere..
[11:36] <ferronica> i have uninstalled xmms but it showing with OPENWITH
[11:37] <mattman218> hello everyone
[11:37] <Spee_Der> hi matt
[11:37] <tjcarter> chowmeined: I think mostly I'm complaining that installing hplip should not pull in as recommends all of the KDE and Gnome client stuff, mostly.
[11:37] <mattman218> i have an installing quesion
[11:37] <Jaso1> Parabola: Wounder what I'm missing.  Thanks. Any other suggestions?
[11:37] <Spee_Der> matt. ask away
[11:38] <Parabola> Jaso1,  i honestly dont know
[11:38] <mattman218> ok, i'm trying to install k9copy 1.1.1-3
[11:38] <tjcarter> that should be done as part of a desktop-printing-gnome or desktop-printing-kde package
[11:38] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: sorry. I am managing 50 laptops from my salesmen. till now I used reverse-vnc, so I didn't need to open any port in their routers. I just discovered ssh and wondered if i could just acces their computer (I have user and pasword, of course) if they just install openssh-server, but I was afraid they also sould open port 22 in their routers, as they don't know how to do that.
[11:38] <chowmeined> tjcarter: yea that was a complaint in feisty.. the icon showed up but pyqt wasn't installed (ubuntu.. no kde stuff) but one of the tools in hplip is a gui program
[11:38] <Parabola> Jaso1,  have you taken out the 2nd hard drive and tried it?
[11:38] <kofler> How would I prevent a program from starting up at boot?
[11:38] <mattman218> it's not in any repositry, or backport
[11:38] <kofler> Like lighttpd starts up at boot and I don't want it to start until certain drives are mounted.
[11:38] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: yea, they would need to do that
[11:39] <tjcarter> chowmeined: right, if you're going to have mad proliferation of packages, proliferate them correctly.  =D
[11:39] <Jaso1> Parabola: Yes, still seem to have to press f2 to boot.
[11:39] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: :(
[11:39] <mattman218> i have a post related to this topin in the ubuntu forums
[11:39] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: thank-you vey much.
[11:39] <kofler> Anyone?
[11:39] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: i think there must be some way to do that with ssh though
[11:39] <z0man> Is ubuntu 7 beta worth installing now?
[11:39] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: google around for some tool that does that..
[11:39] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: i will too
[11:39] <ooglaboogla> anyone know how to install ubuntu and use encrypted partitions
[11:39] <ghaaly> crimsun, http://www.pastebin.ca/441826
[11:39] <Jaso1> Parabola:  What does f2 do and the key might be in it?
[11:39] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: thanks
[11:39] <ghaaly> crimsun, here's the new attachment link
[11:39] <kofler> z0man: I still have tons of issues with it. Graphics + wireless problems mostly though.
[11:39] <mattman218> any suggestions?
[11:40] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: aha! i found it
[11:40] <Andy9215> umm I just finished downloading ubuntu but I need to unrar it :/
[11:40] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: i have never tried this.. apparently its built into ssh
[11:40] <Andy9215> I don't see the images
[11:40] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: so quick!
[11:40] <tjcarter> chowmeined: I may run into that pretty significantly with my long-planned Ubuntu workgroup server project.
[11:40] <z0man> thx kofler....I plan on installing Ubuntu when those bugs are ironed out :)
[11:40] <wdr1_> i have the rt61 chipset... my wireless craps out on boot -- in fact, locks the machine... where/which log fiel should i look @ for specifics of what's going on?
[11:40] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/ssh_tunnelling.html
[11:40] <kofler> z0man: Edgy is still viable if you don't have that already.
[11:40] <Jaso1> Parabola: Are you out. Thank you.
[11:40] <z0man> I've 6.10 at the moment
[11:40] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: you need to have ssh open on your machine.. but then they type a command (you can make a script for them if you want)
[11:40] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: and you can reverse back into them
[11:40] <Spee_Der> matt, I see in apt that is a KDE project, I can not help, sorry mate.
[11:41] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: and they dont need to open a port
[11:41] <crimsun> ghaaly: looking.
[11:41] <mattman218> right, but it can be installed in gnome, i just need to get some headers for it or something
[11:41] <mattman218> the other versions worked for me
[11:41] <ghaaly> crimsun, ok
[11:41] <Raz> Anyone help me with an Ubuntu install? I have 6.10 normal and alt, 7.04, and I get bizarre, different errors with everything I do
[11:42] <Raz> It's a new computer with recent parts so I had to get the newer kernel to support my hardware
[11:42] <z0man> 7 is still beta you know :)
[11:42] <Spee_Der> matt, have you tried using synaptic for help also ? I have, and it works well....
[11:42] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: I see it is a similar system I am using now for graphical connection
[11:42] <greg_g> any ideas of tiff image support in Firefox on Edgy??
[11:42] <Apocalyptica00> i want to get my wireless card configured but i dont know if i have the right drivers or not
[11:42] <Apocalyptica00> how do i check?
[11:42] <andrew> Eh, I'm a nub...I'm reading about file permissions and getting a little confused as to how I can log on as the owner...It says I'm not
[11:42] <mattman218> how do i use that for help?
[11:42] <tjcarter> Raz: Suggestion is that if you don't know how to handle weirdness and specifically kernel weirdness, stick with 6.10 now.
[11:42] <Raz> well is it possible to use a newer linux kernel with 6.10?
[11:42] <kofler> Anyone?
[11:42] <Parabola> Jaso1,  i'm here man
[11:42] <Parabola> just thinking
[11:42] <Raz> i can get 6.10 to install and boot, it just doesn't have drivers for my network, etc
[11:42] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: thankyou very much. I am going to work on it.
[11:42] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: yea.. but ssh is nice.. with a console is is very very fast and responsive.. and you can run scripts to do maintenance ... also you do not disrupt the user
[11:42] <Crazytom> Apocalyptica00, what chipset do you have?
[11:42] <linuxx> adaptr, doesnt even work with nvidia-glx
[11:43] <Cam> andrew: Do you know how to get into your terminal?
[11:43] <tjcarter> Raz: it's possible, but do you need something newer than 2.6.17 for a particular purpose?
[11:43] <andrew> yes
[11:43] <Apocalyptica00> umm im not sure actually
[11:43] <Raz> Yes, driver suport
[11:43] <EXetoC> Hello. wich voip software is popular for ubuntu?
[11:43] <Raz> and 7.04 is all buggy on me
[11:43] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: plus it is encrypted and secure for use across the internet.. most VNC implementations are not encrypted
[11:43] <tjcarter> which drivers though?
[11:43] <Spee_Der> matt, by using synaptic, you can search for the proper files you are in need of, and if there is a problem with them, it will tell you.
[11:43] <Crazytom> Apocalyptica00, do lspci -v | grep Wireless
[11:43] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: you're right
[11:43] <Raz> Marvell ethernet mainly
[11:43] <tjcarter> ah.
[11:43] <Cam> andrew: you can log in as the owner by using the command sudo
[11:43] <linuxx> adaptr, or do I have more than just installing it and modifying xorg.conf?
[11:43] <mattman218> oh, ok
[11:43] <kofler> How would I prevent a program from starting up at boot?
[11:43] <kofler> Like lighttpd starts up at boot and I don't want it to start until certain drives are mounted.
[11:44] <tjcarter> That works around my brilliant solution, sorry  =)
[11:44] <Cam> andrew: after sudo type the name of the program you want to run...it will ask for your password
[11:44] <mattman218> i've already installed all of it's dependencies
[11:44] <wdr1_> is 'Driver using old /proc/net/wireless support, please fix driver!' something to worry about?
[11:44] <Raz> huh?
[11:44] <Apocalyptica00> it says Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[11:44] <Spee_Der> matt. I have used several KDE only files in Gnome quite well, not always, but quite often, becase of using synaptic.
[11:44] <crimsun> wdr1_: no.
[11:44] <kane77> how do I create tar.gz package? (-cvvf creates only .tar, how do I compress?)
[11:44] <andrew> I'm just trying to change file permissions....
[11:44] <Raz> But is there a way to use a newer linux kernal with an older distro?
[11:44] <Raz> kernel too
[11:44] <Crazytom> Apocalyptica00, have you installed ndiswrapper?
[11:44] <mattman218> when i try to ./configure it, it buggs out on me saying i have the wrong prefix
[11:44] <Cam> andrew: oh sorry..that is with the chmod command
[11:44] <EXetoC> popular voip software for Ubuntu, anyone? :)
[11:44] <Andy9215> when u finish downloading ubuntu wheres the .iso file ?
[11:44] <tjcarter> kane77: you forgot z.
[11:44] <Apocalyptica00> ill check
[11:44] <Cam> andrew: read about teh chmod command
[11:44] <andrew> I read it....
[11:44] <tjcarter> kane77: or you can run gzip on the result
[11:44] <kane77> tjcarter, of course! many thanx :D
[11:45] <Crazytom> Apocalyptica00, do ndiswrapper -l
[11:45] <andrew> ok just makeing sure i was looking at the right thing I can figure it out form here thanks
[11:45] <andrew> i get a missing command message..
[11:45] <kernel06> i'm trying to load in ibm thinkpad t20 with airlink mimo wireless card, everything works but not wireless.
[11:45] <Spee_Der> matt, that's the best I can do for now. Perhaps someone else is watching and will assist you with this....  Be patient please.
[11:45] <Apocalyptica00> command not found
[11:45] <wdr1_> if using dhclient, and it's doing a DHCPDISCOVER on <IP_ADDRESS> but i know my broadcast should be <IP_ADDRESS>, is taht something to worry about?
[11:45] <ghaaly> crimsun, still looking
[11:45] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: just my last question. I have my server in text-mode only, no X. If I execute ssh -X ..... from another machine with X, will I be able to execute a graphical program?
[11:45] <Raz> 6.10 doesn't include my network drivers in the kernel, and 7.04 has the drivers I need, but it bugs out on me in some bizarre way every time I try to install it
[11:45] <mattman218> it's all good
[11:46] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: no you need to run xserver to view graphical applications
[11:46] <mattman218> i'm not upset or anything...
[11:46] <mattman218> lol
[11:46] <Raz> Does anyone know what I could possibly do to get around this
[11:46] <Apocalyptica00> its says command not found
[11:46] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: they reversed them.. xserver runs on whatever has a monitor and keyboard
[11:46] <Spee_Der> yep
[11:46] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: xclients run on whichever machine you connect to
[11:46] <Spee_Der> Time and patience always works.
[11:46] <regress> how can I check to make sure an argument was passed to my bash script?
[11:46] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: you could have graphical applications on your text-only server.. and you could remotely run them on another machine.. if it would ease management
[11:46] <Apocalyptica00> Crazytom, should i install them?
[11:47] <kofler> Does anyone know the answer to my question?
[11:47] <regress> something like "if @(! $1) then echo incorrect usage!"
[11:47] <sorcerer> how do i get a digital camera to be recodnized .. by ubuntu .. i instaled gtkam and .. it doesnt shows up when i do a lsusb .. in terminal .. i need to take down some pics please help me
[11:47] <ghaaly> crimsun, are you alive ?
[11:47] <chowmeined> sorcerer: does it have a memory card?
[11:47] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: clear as water. No Xserver, no X aplications, local or remote.
[11:47] <Linuxnewbie756> is there a way i can have thunderbird (or any addressbook) clear duplicate entries? basically i hae a 15000 entry address book, but there are 8 entries per person
[11:47] <Crazytom> Apocalyptica00, if the command wasn't found then you don't have ndiswrapper installed hold on
[11:47] <Apocalyptica00> k
[11:47] <Jaso1> We have to press the F2 key to boot to ubuntu. Seems like grub configured correctly.  It takes about 4 minutes but boots into ubuntu.  The following link is to our post.  Thank you for any assistance. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409918
[11:48] <Raz> :(
[11:48] <ditoa> just got 7.04 beta up and running in vmware workstation
[11:48] <ditoa> is running great so far :)
[11:48] <jessid> !nvidia
[11:48] <andrew> it says opperation not permitted when i try to change the permissions
[11:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:48] <Crazytom> Apocalyptica00, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102
[11:48] <kofler> How would I prevent a program from starting up at boot?
[11:48] <kofler> Like lighttpd starts up at boot and I don't want it to start until certain drives are mounted.
[11:48] <TinWoodsman> I'm trying to run an external hard drive on my computer. but it keeps telling me that I don't have permission to right to it. I can only read it. Can anyone help?
[11:48] <sorcerer> chowmeined: i dunno i guess so .,.
[11:48] <Hansel> kofler edit your init.d scripts in etc
[11:48] <foxiness> is there a console/terminal better then what it come by default wiht ubuntu ?
[11:48] <ghaaly> crimsun, alive ?
[11:48] <sorcerer> chowmeined: its a sony dcs-t1 camera ..
[11:48] <Hansel> kofler - if you want it to load last then put it in rc.local
[11:48] <ghaaly> crimsun, are you still looking in the link ?
[11:48] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: hey, wait, you mean I install let's say, firefox in my text-mode server, and run ssh -X firefox user@server (or similar order, does't matter) from my X laptop, will it run?
[11:49] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: it should
[11:49] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: you only need Xserver on the machine that has a monitor/keyboard/mouse
[11:49] <kofler> Hansel: That's not the right way to do it is it?
[11:49] <DeedleFake3690> Hi, I'm trying to get a Belkin (Broadcom chipset: bcm43xx.) to work, but I can only connect to unencrypted and WEP, but not to WPA. I can see them, but not connect. Any suggestions?
[11:49] <Andy9215> I don't see the ISO file when I downloaded ubuntu and I have WinRar
[11:49] <mattman218> how do i post a link here?
[11:49] <chowmeined> jmvidalvia: you still need to install all the gnome libraries on the text-only server
[11:49] <kofler> Hansel: I want to prevent it from loading. The init script is called at boot.
[11:49] <Hansel> kofler - do you want a pretty gui interface?
[11:49] <kofler> Hansel: No, I meant editing /etc/init.d/* is an ugly way to do anything.
[11:49] <InnerFIRE> why arent there any channels with penguintv? do i have to add them?
[11:49] <sorcerer> chowmeined: i installed gtkam and selected the .. camera model and when i click .. detect dont do anything or not detected
[11:50] <Jaso1> I have to press the F2 key to boot to ubuntu. Seems like grub configured correctly.  It takes about 4 minutes but boots into ubuntu.  The following link is to our post.  Thank you for any assistance. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=409918
[11:50] <jmvidalvia> chowmeined: super clear now. Thanks a lot!
[11:50] <andrew> is there no remotely simple way to give myself permission to do whatever I want?
[11:50] <Hansel> andrew - sudo -i but it is NOT recommended at all.
[11:50] <kuja> How do I alias the font managed by Defoma?
[11:50] <tjcarter> jessid: That howto needs to be updated for nvidia_new (which seems to be an Ubuntuism as of Feisty and therefore not documented elsewhere..)
[11:50] <kuja> s/the font/a font/
[11:50] <mattman218> yeah, you can log on as root
[11:51] <Jaso1> Any hard-drive experts out there?  Grub problems.  Thanks
[11:51] <kuja> For example, I would like to alias Courier New as Courier
[11:51] <kuja> Jaso1: Just ask a question, someone should be around to help.
[11:51] <z0man> Is it me or is Ubuntu getting faster on their updates and upgrades :p
[11:51] <tjcarter> in fact, the thing probably hasn't seen an update since Dapper.
[11:51] <AmyRose> Jaso1: What's the problem?
[11:51] <kuja> z0man: Are you using Feisty?
[11:51] <jessid> !nvidia_new
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia_new - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <chowmeined> sorcerer: if you have a memory card reader.. and use the memory card.. it is treated as a portable drive and nearly always works automatically
[11:51] <LordLimecat> chowmeined: one more issue :( make menuconfig+make-kpkg clean worked like 1 hr ago,...but i made mistakes, so i deleted the linux linked dir and the source dir, and restarted
[11:51] <tjcarter> parts of it, anyway
[11:51] <LordLimecat> now i get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15869/
[11:52] <sorcerer> chowmeined: well it goes into a cradle .. but doesntdetect it at all on my system
[11:52] <z0man> I mean in the sense of comparing distro's
[11:52] <jessid> tjcarter: so what do you recommend?
[11:52] <LordLimecat> its all lowercase as far as i can see :(
[11:52] <eTiger13> >	anyone know how i can get my screen resolution to change? it boots to the login screen, but i can only see half of it and the half i do see looks like 4 bit color and is all distorted.
[11:52] <sorcerer> chowmeined: i mean i could do this on windows .. but i just moved to ubuntu and i wann make this my primary dektop and use windows souly only for games
[11:52] <chowmeined> sorcerer: have you looked on sony's site for linux drivers?
[11:52] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: could you paste the contents of .config?
[11:52] <sorcerer> umm no i should let me check
[11:53] <andrew> how do I log on as root...
[11:53] <ardchoille> !sudo | andrew
[11:53] <ubotu> andrew: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:53] <Hansel> andrew - sudo -i
[11:53] <Hansel> andrew - you can set a root password but it is NOT recommended or supported by Ubuntu.  If things go wrong we likely wont be able to help
[11:53] <ardchoille> andrew: You don't, there is no need to do that.. using sudo is the best way to perform admin tasks.
[11:53] <LordLimecat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15871/
[11:53] <jpsamara> Is the release delayed.,, due to the delay of the Feisty RC?
[11:53] <DeedleFake3690> Hi, I'm trying to get a Belkin (Broadcom chipset: bcm43xx.) to work, but I can only connect to unencrypted and WEP, but not to WPA. I can see them, but not connect. Any suggestions? I'm using network manager.
[11:53] <LordLimecat> chowmeined: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15871/
[11:53] <andrew> alright thanks ardchoille
[11:54] <Comrade-Sergei> whats the command to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[11:54] <andrew> it still doesn't let me write to the folder...
[11:54] <jpsamara> andrew: you can always do sudo su - it has the same effect as opening a root terminal
[11:54] <Hansel> Comrade-Sergei there are how-to's on the ubuntu wiki.  Usually you point your apt.sources to the new versions repositories then do a dist-upgrade
[11:55] <Comrade-Sergei> Hansel um yea how?
[11:55] <kernel06> anyone pls. help me to figure out airlink mimo wireless pcmcia card in 6.10. everything works besides this card. the driver is loaded and i input ssid and password. still doesn't work.
[11:55] <kingcobra> hello
[11:55] <LordLimecat> wait, this is all wrong, its not loading the right config......i deselected a lot of these options
[11:55] <Comrade-Sergei> whats the command to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[11:55] <dreadu> hey, can anyopne help me? when i add .asoundrc to my hdd to get 7.1 sound, my gnome won't load... it stops after login screen
[11:55] <andrew> I still get the whole "you are not the owner" thing
[11:55] <AmyRose> Comrade-Sergei: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[11:55] <z0man> ok I'm gonna ask a dumb question...Is there some way of identifying what Ubuntu is installed via a command ?
[11:55] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: did you save a copy of the config?
[11:55] <Comrade-Sergei> ty
[11:55] <crimsun> ghaaly: yes, but I'm quite busy ATM.
[11:55] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: in menuconfig?
[11:55] <ardchoille> z0man: lsb_release -a
[11:55] <jpsamara> is there a channel to discuss ubuntu development and feisty etc?
[11:55] <z0man> hmmmm
[11:55] <ardchoille> jpsamara: #ubuntu+1
[11:56] <kingcobra> i always feel rude when just asking a question without saying something before it sorry
[11:56] <LordLimecat> yes
[11:56] <DPic> Is the official release going to be on Thursday or just the release candidate?
[11:56] <LordLimecat> chowmeined: and when i redo make menuconfig, its showing my changes
[11:56] <sorcerer> chowmeined: dude i cant seem to find any for that
[11:56] <z0man> cool :)
[11:56] <lolman> z0man, lsb_release -a to see what release you have :)
[11:56] <LordLimecat> but i DEFINATELY turned off toshiba laptop support, and ipv6
[11:56] <ditoa> how do i check to see if my hard drive is using dma?
[11:56] <kingcobra> what is a good tool for handling rar archives
[11:56] <ardchoille> DPic: Ubuntu Feisty should be released on the 19th.
[11:56] <z0man> I'm using edgy
[11:57] <jpsamara> ardchoille: thx
[11:57] <z0man> thx all
[11:57] <Andy9215> http://www.ohs.osceola.k12.fl.us/teachers/marine2/Penguinreprod/image004.jpg
[11:57] <Andy9215> lol
[11:57] <jpsamara> ardchoille: but feisty RC is delayed due to bugs in the rc iso
[11:57] <chowmeined> LordLimecat: the config file it uses to build the kernel.. is always called .config... rename the one you made to .config and delete the old one: mv yours .config
[11:57] <ardchoille> !schedule
[11:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[11:57] <jpsamara> ardchoille: I don't think Feisty will be released 19th
[11:58] <ditoa> jpsamara: why not?
[11:58] <sorcerer> chowmeined: you there
[11:58] <chowmeined> sorcerer: if gtkam doesn't recognize it.. im not sure there is much you can do
[11:58] <andrew> i read the page about rootsudo, but its still not letting me change the permission of a folder
[11:58] <jpsamara> they still havent produced a RC.. and a release is always one week later than the RC ditoa
[11:58] <ghaaly> crimsun, you've no time to help ATM
[11:58] <andrew> after sudo -i
[11:58] <chowmeined> sorcerer: but if the camera has a memory card.. that you can take out and use in a reader.. then you could do that and it would most likely work
[11:58] <LordLimecat> chowmeind: i just wiped out .config (had backup in ~) and reloaded...seems to work now o.0
[11:59] <andrew> "you are not the root owner"
[11:59] <jessid> when is festy going yo be released? not the beta...
[11:59] <ardchoille> jpsamara: Hmm.. I'll have to look into that. I was looking forward to the 19th
[11:59] <sorcerer> chowmeined: that really sucks .. so could anyone please explain to e why linux is better than .. windows .. ]
[11:59] <jpsamara> andrew . type whats between quotes but not quotes itself "sudo su -"
[11:59] <arrow> Does anyone know how to convert x264 format .mkv files into .avi or .mp4
[11:59] <chowmeined> sorcerer: there are too many reasons
[11:59] <chowmeined> sorcerer: and it isn't linux's fault either
[11:59] <jpsamara> andrew then type your password
[11:59] <jpsamara> andrw
[11:59] <arrow> !fiesty
[11:59] <sorcerer> coz these camras dont come up with drivers or support?
[11:59] <DPic> What was the problem with the Feisty beta?
[11:59] <chowmeined> sorcerer: microsoft didn't make the drivers for that camera.. sony did.. and sony decided they want to be lazy and not make one for linux too
[11:59] <sorcerer> fo linux
[11:59] <jpsamara> andrew: then chmod +rxw etc
[12:00] <ardchoille> arrow: The bot is down for now
[12:00] <sorcerer> and only for windows .. ?
[12:00] <chowmeined> sorcerer: but linux is extremely stable compared to windows
[12:00] <sorcerer> that really sucks mate .. shiiiit
[12:00] <arrow> ardchoille, oh ok thx
[12:00] <ajehuk> sorcerer - whats the camera?
[12:00] <Seveas> ardchoille, arrow: it's already on its way back
[12:00] <tjcarter> sorcerer: let's look at this realistically a moment.  Vendors write drivers for Windows, some even for Mac.  Few if any for Linux.  And yet, Linux supports more hardware than both of the others combined.  What model of camera are you using?


[11:31] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: yes in feisty, not through apt, but with a ubuntu .deb yes
[11:31] <nosrednaekim> underdog5004: I kinda forget the names of all the people I see/help
[11:32] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: well yeah
[11:32] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: just use the deb
[11:32] <underdog5004> lol, np
[11:32] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: GAIM beta 6 works fine
[11:32] <coreymon77> okay
[11:33] <morg0th> hellow all =)
[11:33] <coreymon77> hi
[11:33] <dale> Does anyone know any partitioning tools for kde?
[11:34] <ashtar> qtparted
[11:34] <coreymon77> dale: qtparted
[11:34] <dale> Will i have to install loads of gnome libs?
[11:34] <nosrednaekim> dale: qtparted
[11:35] <dale> yes
[11:35] <coreymon77> dale: qtparted is a kde program
[11:35] <dale> ok thanks
[11:35] <Schuenemann> Arwen, I have to go... thanks. If you discover something, please tell me :)
[11:38] <dale> How do i install multimedia codecs eg: wav, mpg, mp3 etc..
[11:38] <Schuenemann> dale, install libxine-extracodecs
[11:38] <Arwen> !restrictedformats | dale
[11:38] <ubotu> dale: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:38] <Schuenemann> I have to go, bye
[11:38] <Arwen> Schuenemann, bye, I'll look into it
[11:38] <nosrednaekim> bye
[11:38] <dale> Thanks alot.
[11:39] <Schuenemann> see you in another life, brother
[11:43] <morg0th> may be, everebody help me: how do i set russian encoding in Kopete?
[11:44] <Alonea> ok, I installed google earth, but it just stays at the initializing phase. anyone else have it and successfully get it to work?
[11:46] <coreymon77> Alonea: i take it this is over wine?
[11:46] <Alonea> coreymon77: no
[11:46] <Alonea> there is a linux version. also a mac version too
[11:47] <Alonea> they make it for all 3 systems.
[11:47] <Arwen> I've had googleearth working before (btw, it uses statically linked winelib)
[11:48] <Alonea> Arwen: well, I installed the bin file, followed the install thing, and then the program started to load, but it seems to be stuck at initializing
[11:48] <Arwen> any console errors?
[11:48] <PhinnFort> Alonea: firewalled or something?
[11:48] <Alonea> Arwen: no
[11:48] <PhinnFort> Alonea: also, try just exiting and restarting it
[11:49] <Arwen> hmm, no idea then, it's proprietary so I guess that's expected?
[11:49] <PhinnFort> ;)
[11:49] <Alonea> PhinnFort: not sure. I am directly connected to my router though, since it times out too much with wpa
[11:49] <PhinnFort> Alonea: try restarting the program
[11:49] <Alonea> PhinnFort: did that.
[11:49] <PhinnFort> still no go?
[11:50] <Alonea> nope. I can try again
[11:50] <PhinnFort> Alonea: can you try running it in a konsole?
[11:50] <Alonea> PhinnFort: umm, I can try.
[11:50] <PhinnFort> repeat something and expecting a different outcome
[11:51] <nosrednaekim> PhinnFort: too long in windows teched them..
[11:51] <Alonea> PhinnFort: ah, but I am indeed quite mad though
[11:51] <PhinnFort> ;)
[11:51] <PhinnFort> nosrednaekim: the reboot syndrome
[11:51] <jzilla> Hello friends. I am trying to change the resoulition of the virtual terminals (Ctrl+Alt+F1-F6) to something higher than 800x600. Where would be a good place to start?
[11:51] <nosrednaekim> PhinnFort: and other such psycological maladies
[11:51] <nosrednaekim> !windows
[11:51] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[11:51] <PhinnFort> jzilla: menu.lst
[11:52] <PhinnFort> jzilla: wait a sec, and I'll try to find the appropriate thingy
[11:52] <nosrednaekim> jzilla: you need them to be in framebuffers.. not sure if they are by default
[11:52] <PhinnFort> jzilla: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution
[11:52] <PhinnFort> nosrednaekim: they are
[11:52] <jzilla> thanks!
[11:52] <PhinnFort> yw;)
[11:52] <Alonea> PhinnFort: ok, it appears to be stuck, but I cant kill the process. says I dont have permission
[11:53] <PhinnFort> Alonea: run "kdesu xkill" in alt+f2
[11:53] <PhinnFort> then click on it
[11:53] <dale> How can i use the "wallet" feature for kcontact?
[11:53] <PhinnFort> dale: whaddayamean?
[11:54] <Alonea> PhinnFort: er, I am confused. what do I click on? The googleearth isn't at the bottom, but the process is there.
[11:54] <PhinnFort> Alonea: click on the window
[11:54] <dale> I would like to use the kde wallet feature for all of my passwords that other apps use.
[11:54] <PhinnFort> Alonea: your cursor should turn into skull'n'bones
[11:54] <Alonea> PhinnFort: which window though?
[11:54] <PhinnFort> Alonea: google earth=
[11:54] <PhinnFort> ?
[11:54] <PhinnFort> Alonea: or just run "sudo killall googleearth" in a terminal
[11:55] <Alonea> PhinnFort: there isnt a window at the moment.
[11:55] <PhinnFort> ^^
[11:56] <Alonea> ok, trying one more time to get it to load up
[11:56] <PhinnFort> Alonea: it could be that it just needs a lot of time to load
[11:56] <PhinnFort> Alonea: bandwidth?
[11:56] <Alonea> PhinnFort: I have cable.
[11:57] <PhinnFort> hmm
[11:57] <jzilla> Thanks, wish me luck!
[11:57] <Alonea> and ktorrent isn't on.
[11:58] <PhinnFort> http://earth.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=1130&ctx=homepage
[11:58] <Alonea> and my windows is borked..well, really, its the ntfs is so fragmented that I can't defrag it. otherwise i would do it in windows
[11:58] <PhinnFort> heh
[11:59] <smylanakis> sorry i am new in kubuntu
[11:59] <smylanakis> could anyone please help me out and guide me through ?
[11:59] <smylanakis> i am interested to update the resolution
[12:00] <smylanakis> of the display of kubuntu
[12:00] <rami> i can help
[12:00] <rami> system settings
[12:00] <smylanakis> is there any easy way to have more than 1024 * 768 ?
[12:00] <smylanakis> thank you
[12:00] <RawSewage> did you install Nvidia drivers
[12:00] <rami> monitor(freely translated from sw2edish
[12:00] <smylanakis> no i did not... where can i find them ?
[12:00] <RawSewage> do you have an NVidia card
[12:00] <rami> we are all rookies....
[12:01] <Alonea> PhinnFort: yeah. i looked around on that earlier. haven't found anything that really relates to me. I have ati,  but not those cards they listed were bad
[12:01] <PhinnFort> Alonea: I haven't even tried GoogleEarth under linux, so I don't know what could be wrong;)
[12:01] <RawSewage> smylanakis, if you have an Nvidia card and install the Nvidia drivers,  after youre done,   do   sudo nvidia-settings  and change the resolution there, and then save
[12:01] <Alonea> me neither..i was just hoping it would work outta the box.
[12:01] <smylanakis> yes i have an nvidia card
[12:01] <PhinnFort> Alonea: it's google;)
[12:02] <RawSewage> nvidia-settings will give you a GUI
[12:02] <RawSewage> you have to do sudo nvidia-settings  or it wont save it when you Save
[12:03] <Alonea> PhinnFort: i really like google. wanted to look at Dallas for my trip tomorrow
[12:03] <smylanakis> yes but how am i going to be sure what the right version of nvidia driver is going to be and secondly from where can i download them ?
[12:03] <RawSewage> !nvidia
[12:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:03] <PhinnFort> Alonea: I just know it runs really smooth on my parents mac
[12:04] <ardchoille> smylanakis: That is a very nice how to for nvidia drivers
[12:04] <PhinnFort> lucky apple has a standardized set of hardware;)
[12:07] <smylanakis> wowww i am really confused ! there are several links in here and i dont know how to start.. should i download first the binary drivers ?/ are there any other ? these are my first 10 minutes in kubuntu.. dont take me wrong ! please..
[12:08] <smylanakis> just installed it !
[12:08] <PhinnFort> smylanakis: just search for nvidia in add/remove programs
[12:08] <smylanakis> ok
[12:08] <smylanakis> just a minute please
DON'T PANIC</red>
[12:08] <PhinnFort> ;)
[12:09] <PhinnFort> in large, friendly letters on the cover
[12:13] <jzilla> is there a way to tell what resoultion the TTY is currently in?


[00:41] <LjL> christ. sometimes, rarely perhaps, people are almost *overwhelmed* with useful responses to their questions, and yet manage to ignore them all and go away complaining about condescending tone
[00:41] <LjL> if utter ingratitude were grounds for a permban, i swear i'd give it
[00:44] <elky> Our ban list would be perpetually overflowing though.
[10:53] <elky> uh, now we've got some irish and polish classrooms by the looks
[10:54] <Pici> and now they're muted
[10:55] <elky> the irish ones aren't
[10:55] <Pici> look again
[10:56] <elky> heh
[17:46] <pangolin> !guidelines > KittyBunny
[17:46] <pangolin> !coc > KittyBunny
[19:25] <pangolin> ...
[19:27] <genii-around> Hehe "WHATS THE DEAL BUCKO" was just too much after an almost-sneaky OK
[21:41] <GTRsdk> Can someone please unban me for #ubuntu?
[22:22] <GTRsdk> ikonia banned me
[22:22] <GTRsdk> and I did not ask to be banned
[22:24] <GTRsdk> He said that crossposting is against the rules
[22:25] <GTRsdk> But it was not crossposting across Ubutnu channels
[22:31]  * GTRsdk wonders if someone other than ikonia will unban GTRsdk in #ubuntu
[22:36] <LjL> GTRsdk: was there something else than crossposting?
[22:37] <GTRsdk> No. I don't think so. In the logs, it looked like it was just crossposting
[22:38] <LjL> GTRsdk: can you try to wait at least, say, 10 minutes before posting in another channel if you didn't get an answer in the first one?
[22:39] <GTRsdk> LjL: I'll keep that in mind. I posted in #debian and #ubuntu, and I think they were about a minute or two apart. I probably should have waited longer
[22:40] <LjL> GTRsdk: try rejoining
[22:41] <GTRsdk> to #debian or #ubuntu?
[22:41] <LjL> #ubuntu
[22:41] <GTRsdk> it works now. Thanks
[22:41] <LjL> i'm not an op in #debian


[00:06] <malchias> is there a way to take over an ssh session?   I had one time out but i don't want to kill it
[00:07] <wieshka> malchias: run ssh seasion by using screen command
[00:07] <CppIsWeird> how do i install the server kernel on a desktop ubuntu?
[00:07] <malchias> do I have to run screen ahead of time?
[00:07] <wieshka> you can attach & dettach it later - depends on your needs
[00:08] <wieshka> malchias: i supouse that yes
[00:08] <wieshka> maybe there is some other solution
[00:08] <malchias> cool - know what would cause it to drop from connections table and lose the connection in the first place (dropped: reason first packet isn't syn)
[00:08] <wieshka> but i use screen by default
[00:15] <wieshka> has anybody running calendarserver on ubuntu lucid ?
[00:15] <wieshka> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ro/lucid/python/calendarserver
[00:19] <wieshka> where the python-xml has been lost from lucid ?
[00:26] <dragondon> Greetings all,  how does one stop iptables from logging every dropped connection into the system logs.  I've deleted the rule that tells it to...
[00:27] <malchias> what's iptables -L say?
[00:27] <malchias> (dn't paste it)
[00:29] <malchias> take a look at what you r/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/iptables says, it could be loading a rule set
[00:33] <MasterZuFu|Bed> can someone like, walk me through how to setup SSL on my ubuntu 10.04 server? I've followed like four tutorials and it's still not working, ended up having to take it out completely.
[00:37] <ScottK> MasterZuFu: Did you check the server guide (see /topic).  I believe it's covered there.
[00:37] <MasterZuFu> will do
[00:38] <MasterZuFu> i've been in the room too long and no longer see /topic, and when i run "/topic" it says it's not enough parameters. could you c/p it here for me please?
[00:56] <ScottK> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/
[00:58] <MasterZuFu> oh wow, thanks ScottK! :)
[01:01] <wieshka> hmmm i have problems with caldavd
[01:01] <wieshka> root@e3server1:/opt/CalendarServer# /etc/init.d/caldav start
[01:01] <wieshka>  * Starting Darwin Calendar Server caldavd
[01:01] <wieshka> Downloading memcached...
[01:01] <wieshka> curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
[01:01] <wieshka>    ...fail!
[01:13] <MasterZuFu> Looking at this part of the configurations (I'm setting up several things at the same time here) https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html. It says near the bottom about shells at /etc/shells/ this directory doesn't exit. Should it have existed during the initial instillation of the package? or do i need to create it now?
[01:14] <MasterZuFu> ah, nvm, looks like a virtual directory :P
[01:19] <MasterZuFu> this is confusing me as far as how to create the users. it just says "add the users into this list"...but I have no idea what the actual format is supposed to be for creating users
[01:21] <MasterZuFu> why the hell does everything have to be so damn complicated? I can't understand half of this crap if my life depended on it >_>
[01:31] <ruben23> guys how do i extract this------> eaccelerator-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.bz2
[01:37] <wieshka> ruben23: use command tar
[01:46] <colk> has anyone heard of a bug in the bnx2 driver that could cause a system to hang and lose outside connectivity with heavy traffic
[02:00] <jbroome> ruben23: bunzip also
[02:10] <MasterZuFu> Now PHPMyAdmin won't let me sign in. It was earlier, I have no idea what's going on. I keep getting this error now with the same username and password: #1045 Cannot log in to the MySQL server
[04:37] <dragondon> malchias: you still here?  was busy for a bit there....
[09:39] <qman__> hey, can anybody tell me what this means, and why it happened? in /proc/mdstat
[09:39] <qman__>        [[09:39] <qman__> the RAID was fine yesterday
[09:39] <qman__> and all the disks are there
[09:39] <qman__> no SMART errors, no failures
[09:42] <twb> qman__: there's a monthly resync
[09:42] <twb> It probably triggered recently.
[09:42] <qman__> oh, ok
[09:42] <qman__> never noticed it before
[09:42] <twb> I freaked out when I first saw it
[09:42] <twb> went out and bought some new disks
[09:43] <qman__> I'm surprised I never encountered it, I've been using this type of setup for two and a half years now
[09:43] <twb> Well, you'd have to look at mdstat within those 12 hours
[09:44] <qman__> I check it basically daily, I've got a script that shows that and some other basic info on a web page
[09:44] <twb> qman__: nagios?
[09:45] <qman__> nah, just something I put together
[09:45] <qman__> though I guess 12 hours a month, over 30 months
[09:45] <X-Sleepy-X> So I've set up a chrooted SFTP account and now I wonder if there is any way for me to test how secure it is. I've disabled root login and changed the port number and when I log in to the account I doesn't seem to be able to go up to the parent folder but still I would like to test it more firmly.
[09:45] <qman__> makes sense that I didn't see it until now
[09:46] <twb> X-Sleepy-X: what release are you running?
[09:46] <X-Sleepy-X> 10.04 desktop
[09:46] <X-Sleepy-X> i386
[09:46] <twb> Then you can use OpenSSH's built-in sftponly functionality; it's better than a manual chroot.
[09:46] <X-Sleepy-X> i used openssh
[09:47] <qman__> then any known possible holes in it would be all over the internet
[09:47] <twb> qman__: not necessarily; Debian's entropy cock-up didn't affect OpenBSD or RHEL users, for example.
[09:47] <qman__> that's true
[09:47] <X-Sleepy-X> I did this in the config Match group sftp
[09:47] <X-Sleepy-X>         ChrootDirectory /home/%u
[09:47] <X-Sleepy-X>         X11Forwarding no
[09:47] <X-Sleepy-X>         AllowTcpForwarding no
[09:47] <X-Sleepy-X>         ForceCommand internal-sftp
[09:48] <twb> X-Sleepy-X: ah, OK.
[09:48] <qman__> amazing how long it took for that to surface, too
[09:48] <twb> X-Sleepy-X: that's what I meant.
[09:48] <X-Sleepy-X> yeah ok
[09:48] <X-Sleepy-X> well how can i test how secure it is?
[09:48] <X-Sleepy-X> and yeah i disabled root login
[09:48] <X-Sleepy-X> and changed the port
[09:48] <qman__> back up your data
[09:48] <qman__> and try throwing some rm -rf /s at it
[09:49] <X-Sleepy-X> ive put the shell to /bin/false
[09:49] <X-Sleepy-X> so im not sure how to input that command... :S
[09:49] <twb> X-Sleepy-X: publish the password and see if anyone breaks in? ;-)
[09:50] <X-Sleepy-X> LOL
[09:50] <qman__> well then there's not much you can test for
[09:50] <X-Sleepy-X> so it's pretty safe?
[09:50] <qman__> the only real holes you could be vulnerable to are ones in the services or main system itself
[09:50] <X-Sleepy-X> ok
[09:50] <X-Sleepy-X> well i guess that's a risk i'm willing to take
[09:50] <qman__> and as long as you're up to date, there's not much more you can do on that front
[09:51] <X-Sleepy-X> true
[09:51] <X-Sleepy-X> :)
[09:51] <X-Sleepy-X> no other security mesures i can add to the /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?
[09:52] <twb> X-Sleepy-X: the best way to secure a service is not to run it
[09:52] <X-Sleepy-X> twb: yeah, but I'm to lazy to shut it off and on
[09:52] <twb> You can also disable password auth, use hashlimit/recent (or denyhosts/fail2ban), limit the set of users and the set of source addresses.
[09:53] <qman__> I would say to set up something to defend against brute force attacks, but running on an alternate port pretty much covers that
[09:53] <X-Sleepy-X> ok
[09:53] <X-Sleepy-X> i'll look in to those things mentioned
[09:54] <X-Sleepy-X> thanks for the help :D
[09:54] <qman__> that alone puts you out of the target range for 90% of break-ins
[09:54] <X-Sleepy-X> qman__: good to know :)
[09:55] <X-Sleepy-X> now i just need to configure my php when i'm done with this...
[09:55] <X-Sleepy-X> i just love using my eee pc as a server/desktop
[09:55] <X-Sleepy-X> ;)
[09:55] <qman__> there's lots of bots out there that scan the net for open SSH servers, and brute force them
[09:56] <qman__> but they naturally only scan port 22, and only use a pretty simple dictionary attack
[09:56] <X-Sleepy-X> so with a good password i should be safe from those?
[09:56] <qman__> yes
[09:56] <qman__> just make sure you don't have any other users allowed
[09:56] <twb> So I have to enable universe for a handful of packages.
[09:56] <qman__> they try stuff like root and built in accounts
[09:57] <X-Sleepy-X> qman__: How do can I check if I have that or not?
[09:57] <X-Sleepy-X> -od
[09:57] <X-Sleepy-X> -do
[09:57] <qman__> the easiest way in my opinion is to make sure any users that don't log in, don't have a shell
[09:57] <twb> Can I configure pinning such that 1) updates to INSTALLED universe packages are allowed; but 2) universe packages that AREN'T installed must be explicitly requested -- apt-get install foo, where foo depends/recommends a universe package bar, will fail.
[09:57] <qman__> about 15 built in accounts in ubuntu have a shell for no apparent reason
[09:58] <qman__> I change them to /bin/false
[09:58] <twb> qman__: those accounts should still be locked
[09:58] <qman__> yes
[09:58] <twb> qman__: surely OpenSSH doesn't allow logins to any account that has an :x: in shadow
[09:58] <qman__> yeah, it doesn't allow that
[09:59] <X-Sleepy-X> so i don't need to set them to /bin/false?
[09:59] <qman__> but removing the shell adds one more layer of protection
[09:59] <qman__> in case a password gets set inadvertantly
[09:59] <qman__> you don't need to, I do anyway
[09:59] <qman__> and it hasn't broken anything for me
[09:59] <X-Sleepy-X> ok, but as long as i dont set a password for those account they are safe?
[09:59] <qman__> yes
[10:00] <X-Sleepy-X> well i only have two accounts
[10:00] <X-Sleepy-X> my standard and the sftp
[10:00] <X-Sleepy-X> with passwords i mean
[10:00] <qman__> users without passwords can't log in, except if they have key-based authentication configured
[10:00] <X-Sleepy-X> i haven't gotten around to start using keys yet
[10:00] <X-Sleepy-X> hehe
[10:00] <twb> qman__: well, system users usually have a silly $HOME
[10:01] <twb> X-Sleepy-X: disabling password auth is definitely worth doing
[10:01] <qman__> it's actually pretty easy to set up
[10:01] <qman__> to be perfectly honest, I only set up key based auth about a month ago for the first time
[10:01] <qman__> despite running linux and openssh for over five years
[10:01] <twb> The main danger is that you can remove a passphrase from a passphraseful key, so you have to make sure users are educated
[10:02] <twb> Otherwise they'll use passphraseless keys, which are single-factor auth
[10:02] <qman__> I use some of both
[10:03] <X-Sleepy-X> ok, but im only going to use my sftp account with ppl i know in person, i mean i will change my password regulary
[10:03] <qman__> my internet-facing server requires passphrase keys
[10:03] <twb> X-Sleepy-X: doesn't matter.
[10:03] <twb> X-Sleepy-X: single-factor authentication is inherently weaker than multi-factor authentication.
[10:03] <twb> qman__: how does it enforce that?
[10:03] <X-Sleepy-X> ok
[10:04] <qman__> well, it doesn't technically require it, I only created keys with passphrases for that one
[10:04] <qman__> and I'm the only one with root, so
[10:04] <twb> OK, so it only requires it at a policy, not a technical, level.
[10:04] <qman__> yes
[10:04] <qman__> but for the sake of convenience I set up passphraseless keys between my desktop and the other servers
[10:05] <qman__> because the only possible attack vector is through the one that needs a passphrase
[10:05] <twb> qman__: that's stupid.  Use multi-hop SSH.
[10:05] <qman__> unless someone gets really fancy with a firefox exploit, anyway
[10:06] <twb> You should not be initiating SSH connections from an intermediary.
[10:06] <twb> ssh -oProxyCommand='ssh gateway.example.net -W %h:%p' foo
[10:06] <twb> ...connects to foo, via gateway.example.net, using your local machine for both auths
[10:07] <qman__> nice
[10:07] <twb> (You can put the same thing in .ssh/config.)
[10:07] <qman__> I'll have to do that
[10:07] <twb> If you do that, you should also disable agent forwarding
[10:07] <twb> agent forwarding achieves something similar, but it assumes that root on gateway.example.net is ultimately trusted.
[10:08] <qman__> then I could just disable the ssh client on that server altogether
[10:09] <twb> The major downside is that you're paying double encryption overhead on the you<-->gateway link.
[10:09] <twb> But IME that's negligible.
[10:09] <qman__> yeah
[10:10] <qman__> I've tried before just to see, I can get about 5 simultaneous connections before it chokes
[10:10] <qman__> I'm the only one who ever uses it, so that's not an issue
[11:32] <X-Sleepy-X> Is the /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini file configured to be development or production in Ubuntu 10.04?
[11:36] <Error404NotFound> how can i force apache to append some text e.g. a link or an image at the bottom of every page that it renders?
[12:27] <twb> Grmph
[12:27] <twb> ifup -a should not restart sshd five times
[12:28] <andol> twb: once for every nic?
[12:28] <twb> Yes
[12:28] <twb> It should be smart enough to realize that it only needs to do it once, at the end.
[12:28] <twb> Similar to dpkg triggers
[12:28] <cloakable> agreed
[13:44] <ruben23> hi guys whats the features of ubuntu-server new ver, LST..?
[13:44] <ruben23> KTS i mean..
[13:45] <ruben23> LTS...:-D
[13:45] <steffan> ruben23: http://www.ubuntu.com/server/features/reduce-costs
[13:57] <RoyK> ruben23: for what are you going to use it?
[13:58] <ruben23> RoyK: ill be using for voice traffic, a predictive dialer system.
[13:58] <RoyK> asstrix?
[13:59] <ruben23>  RoyK: right...your correct
[13:59] <twb> Not freeswitch, then?
[13:59] <RoyK> I've run rather large asterisk installations on ubuntu. the  problems we saw was asterisk-related, not ubuntu-related
[13:59] <RoyK> and we saw LOTS of problems
[13:59] <RoyK> asterisk is not good
[14:00] <JamesHarrison> I'm getting *** System restart required *** - I guess this just means I've done a kernel update and need to restart to have it take effect. I can't reboot this box; can I hide the message, or is there a way to swap out the running kernel for the new one without a reboot?
[14:00] <RoyK> twb: do you know any predictive dialer setups with fs?
[14:00] <RoyK> JamesHarrison: it only shows that message to admins
[14:00] <RoyK> JamesHarrison: and usually it's ok to ignore that - it just means a new kernel is ready
[14:01] <JamesHarrison> RoyK: Yes, and nobody else has an account on the box, just me. I know it's probably safe to ignore, it's just irking me :)
[14:01] <RoyK> hehe
[14:09] <steffan> Hi this message is shown when logging in http://pastebin.com/hQsKgK01. I've looked at the URL it shows and that is of no help
[14:10] <steffan> This is a virtual machine running VMWare, although I have root privalidges
[14:11] <ruben23>  RoyK:i been using 8.04 LTS for production, but i want to upgrade to the new release, im just afraid what migh happen..
[14:12] <ruben23> the new LTS version..
[14:13] <RoyK> steffan: http://tinyurl.com/2b2q53j
[14:13] <cybrocop> Hi All. Output from top on my server shows 147K free RAM, however, I'm not running anything. How can I troubleshoot whats using that memory?
[14:14] <RoyK> ruben23: it'll probably work
[14:14] <RoyK> cybrocop: pastebin output from 'free'
[14:15] <cybrocop> RoyK: Here is output from 'free':  http://slexy.org/raw/s2NN07Pew7
[14:15] <RoyK> cybrocop: see the buffers/cache line
[14:15] <RoyK> you have lots of free memory
[14:16] <RoyK> but linux uses whatever's left for buffering
[14:16] <RoyK> that's released when something needs it - when it's allocated
[14:17] <cybrocop> RoyK: I was running kvm, and it froze up for a minute, thought it may be related to this. KVM was/is allocated 850MB
[14:18] <RoyK> 850 megs is not really a lot for kvm
[14:18] <steffan> RoyK: 5 results - the majority in Chinese
[14:19] <cybrocop> RoyK: agreed. But the KVM itself was not heavily used. I was editing a 5 line text file.. But I'll try to pay more attention once this happens.
[14:20] <cybrocop> Another question, does anybody know how to send Ctrl-Alt-Del through  Rdesktop?
[14:20] <remix_tj> cybrocop: ctrl-alt-ins?
[14:21] <cybrocop> remix_tj: doesn't work for me.
[14:22] <remix_tj> cybrocop: uhm, or ctrl-alt-end
[14:22] <steffan> RoyK: The website (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/CPUFeatures) says that you can start using it if you install -generic-pae flavor of the 32bit kernel. On login I'm shown '2.6.32-21-generic-pae', which shows that the server is already using it. So why am I getting this message?
[14:23] <cybrocop> remix_tj: Sorry, that doesn't work either. I must have tried all the reasonable Ctrl-Alt-*** combinations.
[14:24] <remix_tj> cybrocop: you can use windows security on the start menu, so
[14:25] <cybrocop> remix_tj: Thanks, thats a good workaround.
[14:29] <RoyK> steffan: no idea
[14:50] <MasterZuFu> hey everyone. i'm trying to use byobu (screen) here. i have my server remote-ssh'd into from my desktop, and then i have remote ssh on my iphone. i want to have a screen already setup with two windows on it, both already running a command. i pressed "ctrl+a,d" to detach my screen. then on the iphone i put "screen -r" to resume. it says this: - byobutput: unknown terminal "vanilla". cannot find terminfo entry for 'vanilla'
[14:55] <MasterZuFu> anyone?
[15:26] <xelister> how to stop the colorfull logo on boot  at other gimmicks?
[15:27] <xelister> also how to disable auto starting gdm/kdm (so that by default server does not start any X server)
[15:27] <xelister> also how to uninstall radeom propertiary driver, and overall remove X to change the computer to a headless setup (but! the computer needs the part to be able to VCN / ssh -X into it)
[15:44] <RoyK> what is the preferred virtualisation solution for ubuntu these days?
[15:51] <jbroome> i like kvm
[15:52] <RoyK> does kvm differenciate between hvm and pv like xen does?
[16:04] <ruben23> hi where is the php.ini file on ubuntu located..?
[16:04] <ruben23> on ubuntu-server
[16:07] <cloakable> ruben23: /etc/php5/
[16:08] <cloakable> Or php4 if you're using that
[16:22] <diago> Hello, I am trying to install 10.04 with a raid 1 configuration. I get all the way through the install and on the reboot the system complains that it cannot find /dev/by-uid/<UUID> which corresponds to /dev/md0. When I boot into recovery fstab has the correct UUID for /dev/md0
[16:22] <diago> It's almost like mdadm is not being loaded in time for the system to boot
[16:44] <blue-frog> hi there, drwxrwxrwt for /tmp on a server is correct or there's a catch?
[16:45] <nealmcb> blue-frog: That's the default
[16:45] <blue-frog> ok had the default on a desktop but not on the server
[16:46] <blue-frog> ty
[16:46] <nealmcb> blue-frog: np
[16:52] <Rensky> hey i will create a openvpn gateway, the connection is ok, it run, but i can?t ping a pc in the "push network"
[16:52] <Rensky> i can ping the vpn server
[16:54] <Rensky> on the tun device and on the eht0 device, but i can?t ping the pc behind eht0
[16:54] <Rensky> is the problem iptables?
[17:04] <jbroome> i can't tell from here
[17:06] <Rensky> you need more information?
[18:36] <RoyK> hi all. seems redhat has some admin tools that can be run on windoze to manage VMs. are such tools available on ubuntu?
[18:36] <RoyK> s/on/from/
[19:10] <iKb> i am tring to install a lamp server
[19:11] <iKb> if i install apache2 it install apache2-mpm-worker than if i install php5 it replace apache2-mpm-worker with apache2-mpm-prefork
[19:11] <iKb> is possible to mantain apache2-mpm-worker?
[19:15] <RoyK> do you really need -worker?
[19:16] <RoyK> php isn't thread-safe
[19:16] <RoyK> if you want php, use prefork
[19:16] <RoyK> it scales well enough for most use
[19:17] <RoyK> prefork starts to perform bad at thousands of concurrent requests
[19:46] <volve> hey all, I'm trying to install 10.04 server to a usb thumb drive. All goes well until it tries to install grub - it fails with no details. I tried selecting lilo but that fails too. Am I missing a step? I've read some usb howtos online but they only discuss Desktop, not Server...
[19:48] <nealmcb> volve: what did you use to do it - usb-creator-gtk on lucid?
[19:49] <volve> no, simply ran the server installer as "method 1" here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent made mention of just pointing to the thumb drive
[19:51] <nealmcb> volve: that's a pretty old page (those need to be cleaned up....)  what distro were you running on the machine that you created it from?
[19:52] <nealmcb> you might want to try usb-creator
[19:52] <volve> I had no os installed. Was just booting from the server install cd.
[19:52] <nealmcb> but I have only used it for a (simple, successfull) desktop install
[19:52] <volve> will go read about us-creator :)
[19:52] <nealmcb> volve: ahh - got it
[19:53] <nealmcb> :)
[19:53] <nealmcb> volve: I'd love to hear how it works
[19:53] <volve> usb-creator's tagline is that it writes the iso images to usb drives. that's what concerns me as that's not an install, I'd end-up with the usb drive booting into the server installer... :/
[19:54] <volve> maybe I'm googling this wrong, maybe I should try searching for ways to transfer an hd install to a usb drive... hmm
[19:55] <nealmcb> volve: oops - that sounds right.
[20:13]  * ccheney just upped his medicine dose 50% today and is feeling a bit wired
[20:27] <KenBW2> how can i edit my invalid /etc/sudeors file?
[20:29] <soren> KenBW2: Reboot into recovery mode.
[20:29] <soren> KenBW2: And from now on, use visudo to edit sudoers.
[20:29] <soren> KenBW2: It checks the file's validity before letting you replace the original one.
[20:29] <KenBW2> its a VM, how would i restart into recovery?
[20:31] <ccheney> soren, you use uec right?
[20:32] <ccheney> soren, have you ever seen a weird issue where eucalyptus seems to use the external ips (the ones you assign vs the 172.x ones) for a while then stop using them, almost like an ip leak
[20:33] <ccheney> soren, i'm trying to determine what is causing it to happen on my test box, i saw that the 172.x address are assigned via dhcp but haven't tracked down what handles hand outs of the ips from ip pool assigned by the admin
[20:35] <soren> ccheney: I don't use UEC.
[20:35] <ccheney> soren, ok
[20:36] <soren> KenBW2: Just like you would a regular machine.
[20:36] <soren> KenBW2: Invoke the grub menu, choose recovery mode. win.
[20:36] <KenBW2> the first part s what im struggling with
[20:37]  * nealmcb waves at soren
[20:37] <soren> nealmcb: o/
[20:37] <soren> KenBW2: Hold down the shift key, I think.
[20:38] <KenBW2> this is VMWare Server if that changes anything
[20:39] <soren> You tell me.
[20:40] <soren> KenBW2: I've told you what to do. Have you tried it?
[20:41] <KenBW2> i tried pressing shift while pressing the play button, yes
[20:41] <KenBW2> but unsuprisingly it did nothing different
[20:44] <guntbert> KenBW2: not while pressing the play button but inside the VM while it is booting
[20:45] <KenBW2> ah, ill try that
[21:06] <KenBW2> ok ive tried Shift, and ESC (as suggested on the boot screen) and neither shows me grub
[21:06] <volve> nealmcb: turns out all I needed was to make sure the first partition was a FAT32 and set as Bootable. GRUB installed happily afterwards. :)
[21:07] <nealmcb> volve: excellent!
[21:07] <nealmcb> hope it boots nice and fast!  And do take /tmp off of it....
[21:07] <volve> Next question though: how do I disable the silent boot-up and resolution detection? I sort of like seeing my services scroll by... :D
[21:08] <volve> nealmcb: yeah I need to figure out a script to put /tmp in ram, and also nuke the swap partition the installer created
[21:10] <volve> I mean, ideally I want to boot the entire filesystem into ram
[21:19] <t3chkommie> praise goodness there is a server channel!!!!!
[21:19] <nealmcb> t3chkommie :)
[21:20] <t3chkommie> can anyone help me with a 10.04 server trying to set up IMAP and webmail?
[21:20] <nealmcb> volve: Check out /etc/default/grub for boot configs
[21:20] <t3chkommie> i had postfix+dovecot+squirrelmail... worked fine, untill i did and upgrade and broke everything...
[21:20] <t3chkommie> now i cant get anything to work.. no roundcube.. courier... nothing.
[21:21] <nealmcb> volve: and I'd think you could just link /tmp into /dev/shm in fstab
[21:21] <nealmcb> but I haven't looked into that recently
[21:22] <t3chkommie> anybody?
[21:23] <nealmcb> t3chkommie: did you install the mail server task (see tasksel)
[21:23] <t3chkommie> i think so.
[21:23] <t3chkommie> isnt that postfix?
[21:23] <nealmcb> among other tings
[21:24] <nealmcb> but I'm not up-to-date on it
[21:25] <t3chkommie> ok, sudo tasksel, it was missing mail server some how, so im going to resintall that
[21:25] <t3chkommie> nealmcb, tasksel... awsome command, i was looking for that when everything went down yesterday!
[21:25] <t3chkommie> thanks!
[21:26] <nealmcb> t3chkommie: :)
[21:26] <t3chkommie> nealmcb, what should i do now?
[21:26] <t3chkommie> reinstall dovecot? courier?
[21:31] <t3chkommie> anyone use roundcube and squirrelmail that prefurs one over the other?
[21:31] <t3chkommie> im looking for somwthing with a nice UI, and resembles outlook webmail
[21:41] <nealmcb> t3chkommie: I don't have much recent mail server experience, but if you describe the specifics, someone else here might see something they can answer
[22:32] <diago> Hello, I am trying to install 10.04 with a raid 1 configuration. I get all the way through the install and on the reboot the system complains that it cannot find /dev/by-uid/<UUID> which corresponds to /dev/md0. When I boot into recovery fstab has the correct UUID for /dev/md0
[22:59] <Yosi> Anyone here use a LSI 9260 with Ubuntu Server 10.04?   Cause LSI only has official drivers and control/agent software for REHEL..   but someone told me kernel 2.6 and higher has build in drivers for the Megaraid...
[23:00] <Yosi> any idea?
[23:00] <Yosi> RHEL*
[23:52] <Yosi> anyone here using LSI cards in ubuntu./
[23:52] <Yosi> ?
[23:55] <lukehasnoname`> Yosi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1242919
[23:55] <lukehasnoname`> last post?