[17:47] <batteronizer> and applications like software center and empathy aren't able to see the connection either
[17:48] <push> # User privilege specification
[17:48] <ikonia> push: why have you changed /etc/sudoers
[17:48] <rtdos> @ikonia - how do i setup the "NOPASSWD" option for sudo again?
[17:48] <push> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[17:48] <push> jaya    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[17:48] <wad> Jordan_U, yeah, checking another more "normal" CD should give us this info. :)
[17:48] <batteronizer> so, even though i'm connected, i'm unable to use those applications
[17:48] <soman> Jordan_U: yes
[17:48] <soman> Sorry people
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> rtdos: its not a good idea, it removes a LOT of security in your OS
[17:48] <wad> rtdos, also, it needs to be the last line in the file.
[17:48] <soman> After re-inserting the disc all works now
[17:49] <push> ikonia: was unable to update hosts file with sudo so tried  changing sudoers
[17:49] <wad> We fixed it!!
[17:49] <ikonia> push: the default sudo rules will allow you to update /etc/hosts
[17:49] <eleazar> atrus, i installed sickbeard via a ppa, but it's not showing up in dash home, and i can't figure out how to run it from the command line (I'm a linux noob :( )
[17:49] <soman> One more Q: is it etc/hosts file has same meaning as Windows hosts file?
[17:49] <Sokel> push: Exactly what ikonia said. You basically are now putting conflicts in the sudoers file. Remove it, now.
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> push: doesn't the line need starting with a percent sign?
[17:49] <ikonia> push: how are you editing the sudoers file
[17:50] <batteronizer> soman: yes
[17:50] <soman> batteronizer: thanks
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> push: for the groupname
[17:50] <atrus> eleazar: if it's not in the dash home, i'd call that a bug in the package. you may be able to work around that, eg, by running dpkg -L <package name> to see if there's a file in /usr/bin that should be executed
[17:50] <manisabri> I changed the usb port of my web cam and its not working any more , any ideas? I don't remember which port it was and I have 30 of them !!
[17:50] <smt> hi, i recently changed my hardware and now lm-sensors doesnt find any sensors (apart from hdd and gpu) i already ran sensors-detect... the new motherboard is an asus M5A78L-M LE
[17:50] <soman> Jordan_U: is cdrom should be a visible by those commands you gave me?  Remove your name from the sudoers file.
[17:51] <atrus> eleazar: or see if it has something in /usr/share/doc/<package name> that would explain some first-steps.
[17:51] <ikonia> start answering the questions actually asked
[17:51] <ikonia> push: 1.) what was the command you used to edit sudo
[17:51] <ikonia> push: 2.) what is the command you are using to try to edit /etc/hosts
[17:51] <rochak> ikonia: gtg
[17:51] <eleazar> atrus, ah ok, i'll check those, thanks
[17:52] <wad> soman, actually, you have it backwards. The windows hosts file has the same meaning as the UNIX one. :)
[17:52] <atrus> eleazar: it could be the sort of program that just runs on startup in the background, and you access it via your web-browser on http://localhost:<some port> or something
[17:53] <eleazar> atrus, assuming this was a normal package that installed correctly, how would i normally launch it from terminal?
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> eleazar: have you read any man pages, websites or did you just thrown in the package and start guessing how it is used?
[17:54] <afloater> atrus: Id rather disable the dnsmasq stuff
[17:54] <afloater> dont see the benefit
[17:55] <bobweaver> go go speed  racer   afloater  ?
[17:55] <eleazar> ActionParsnip, i have been using sickbeard on windows for a year or so, so i know how sickbeard works, i just don't know linux :\ so i have no read any man pages :(
[17:55] <atrus> afloater: the simplest benefit is probably just that your system is configured the way ubuntu expects, so it'll be easier to get support later.
[17:55] <manisabri> ubuntu 11.10 64 , changed webcam usb port , not working any more , any ideas?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> eleazar: think you may want to find out how it runs on linux then, its clearly different
[17:56] <bobweaver> eleazar,  sickbread works on Ubuntu  http://www.ainer.org/sick-beard-install-setup-configuration-guide-for-ubuntu-linux-mint
[17:57] <eleazar> bobweaver, thanks! i'll check that out too
[17:57] <push> oh i lost the link
[17:57] <bobweaver> eleazar,  there is also mythtv and Ubuntu tv that is comming soon (Ubutnu tv ) there is also other things xbmc ect
[17:58] <bobweaver> gnome dvb ect
[17:59] <eleazar> wow nice
[18:00] <bobweaver> eleazar,  I am a huge fan of myth-tv   But help and work on Ubuntu tv everyday it will be great maybe in Ubuntu 13.10  or Ubuntu 13.04 we will all know soon
[18:00] <theadmin> Can anyone help me get magnet: links working? None of the torrent clients I tried work (I tried Deluge, uTorrent, Vuze...). Preferably in Deluge.
[18:00] <theadmin> Oh, the browser is Firefox.
[18:00] <push> Sorry i had lost the link.
[18:00] <push> couldnt change hosts file with sudo. So updated sudoers to
[18:00] <push> # User privilege specification
[18:00] <push> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[18:00] <push> jaya    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[18:00] <FloodBot1> push: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:00] <rtdos> OK, thanks.
[18:00] <push> Still unable to update hosts file
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: works in transmission last I tried (if I remember correctly)
[18:00] <Lunar_Lamp> push: log out and back in again.
[18:00] <auronandace> push: stop it
[18:00] <ikonia> push: if you post that again - you will be removed from the hcannel
[18:00] <ikonia> push: answer the questions
[18:00] <ikonia> push: 1.) what was the command you used to edit sudo
[18:00] <ikonia> push: 2.) what is the command you are using to try to edit /etc/hosts
[18:01] <rtdos> one more question (2 parts): does ubuntu server come with sdl / opengl installed? if not how do i install the sdl / opengl libraries?
[18:01] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Ok... Transmission isn't a client I want to use (I have reasons -- some trackers I use don't allow it)
[18:01] <bobweaver> Dulge I thought you just go to file->open and paste in the magent
[18:01] <theadmin> bobweaver: Yeah, but I want to simply click the link in the browser, you know?
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: ive used transgui and it accepts magnet links and they get sent to my server
[18:01] <push> visudo from #
[18:02] <UbuntuBookPro> Hey guys. I get terrible battery life on my Macbook Pro, what can I do about that?
[18:02] <bobweaver> theadmin,  Yeah I know and feel the pain also sometimes
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> !mac | UbuntuBookPro
[18:02] <ska> Can I deinstall a set of packages via dpkg --set-selections list.txt, where list.txt has the packages listed with "deinstall" after the package name?
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> ubottu: may have some tips / settings
[18:02] <bobweaver> what is kubutu torrent client ? try that . theadmin
[18:02] <theadmin> ska: Probably. But why no thave a list of packages and pass it on to apt-get remove? (sudo apt-get remove $(cat something))
[18:03] <theadmin> bobweaver: Meh... Ok, thanks, I'll figure it out myself.
[18:03] <bobweaver> ska,  what ?  dpkg-query -l | grep <name of package>   ??
[18:04] <theadmin> ska: If you're modifying the dpkg state you might want to run "sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade" after  modifying the states.
[18:04] <ckaeboss> Hey all. Is there any tool I can use to securely erase a file? I want at least 22 swipes.
[18:04] <theadmin> ckaeboss: Linux comes with "shred", try that. "man shred" for a manual.
[18:04] <bobweaver> srm  ckaeboss  ?
[18:04] <rsw> i have a small question involving virtualbox this pci passtrough setup i installed some old gfx for the host and my gamin card i put in other pcix slot but ubuntu is not detecting it
[18:04] <ckaeboss> theadmin thanks
[18:04] <bobweaver> !info srm
[18:04] <bobweaver> pff
[18:05] <bobweaver> !info secure-delete
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> cheez0r: why 22, you only need 1
[18:05] <rsw> or is a seperate gfx not needed for that ?
[18:05] <push> ikonia: sudo cat $new >> /etc/hosts
[18:05] <rtdos>  one more question (2 parts): does ubuntu server come with sdl / opengl installed? if not how do i install the sdl / opengl libraries?
[18:05] <selite> Hello. I know the stack limit is defined by the OS, but how do I check how much stack I have and is there a way to modify it?
[18:05] <theadmin> push: Well that won't work
[18:05] <selite> I am aware of the portability issues that may arise due that.
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> push: sudo doesn't traverse the redirection
[18:06] <crypticmofi> hi all
[18:06] <push> oh. So way out?
[18:06] <theadmin> push: >> is a shell thing, your bash isn't running as root so >> isn't working. Use this instead: cat new | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts
[18:06] <crypticmofi> how can i get rid of the ubuntu 12 launcher stuff looking thing
[18:06] <crypticmofi> i think its bogging down my system
[18:06] <theadmin> push: Remove "-a" if you'd use > rather than >> normally
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> push: echo $new | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts
[18:06] <kopoba> any one how know japanes language pm me plizz i need help in translation
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> !japan
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> !jp
[18:07] <theadmin> kopoba, ActionParsnip: Translations aren't something discussed or supported on any Ubuntu channels, except maybe #ubuntu-offtopic...
[18:07] <ckaeboss> theadmin: I see that they say one option is -n or --iterations=N. Can I just use --iterations=50 if I want to swipe over it 50 times?
[18:07] <theadmin> ckaeboss: Correct
[18:07] <crypticmofi> any ideas ?
[18:07] <ckaeboss> theadmin: thanks
[18:07] <ska> theadmin: yea, I have a big list of packages I want to remove and this seems like the fasted way to try it. I'm fuzzy on the details after a long time.
[18:07] <crypticmofi> or what i the launcher stuff in ubuntu 12 so i can google it ?
[18:07] <theadmin> !notunity | crypticmofi
[18:07] <push> theadmin : thank you . i was fixing wrong thing
[18:07] <kopoba> theadmin #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[18:08] <theadmin> kopoba: Yeah, it's a channel for about anything
[18:08] <kopoba> theadmin thanks
[18:08] <push> actionparsnip:thanx
[18:08] <fobo> does anyone know how can i collect information of a usb 3g modem
[18:08] <auronandace> fobo: lsusb
[18:08] <bobweaver> lsusb fobo
[18:09] <theadmin> push: Hint: use "sudo -i" to get a root shell and then you can run commands as you normally would. It's not really safe though (you may erase something you don't want to, for instance)
[18:09] <fobo> thanks :)
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> fobo: lsusb   is a good start
[18:09] <ska> theadmin: at least that is how I used to do it. but i forgot the dselect-upgrade part
[18:09] <crypticmofi> theadmin so just isntall gnome-panel ?
[18:09] <theadmin> crypticmofi: Yeah, pretty much
[18:09] <fobo> i'll send information to the usb modeswitch developer :)
[18:10] <crypticmofi> theadmin then reboot or logout ?
[18:11] <theadmin> crypticmofi: Log out, click the gear-looking thingy, choose "GNOME Fallback" (or "GNOME Classic") out of the list
[18:11] <rsw> nobody knows why ubuntu does not detect my other gfx card :(
[18:11] <dr_willis> what other card
[18:12] <push> theadmin: thanx. I was working on a script . Only beacaus of this line I was not able to avail it to normal users. should I revert changes in sudoers ?
[18:12] <bobweaver> rsw please PASTEBIN  the output os      lspci -nn | grep VGA
[18:12] <theadmin> push: Probably. They won't really hurt but they do nothing long as you are in the "admin" group
[18:12] <Jordan_U> push: Yes.
[18:13] <fobo> i think lsusb seems didn't get enough. what if i should supply denser information?
[18:13] <xevwork> I'm in dependency hell. I'm trying to backport samba 3.6.7 to Lucid using pbuilder. I need to install a newer version of debhelper, but it requires dh-apparmor. When I try to compile apparmor, it requires debhelper! Any tips?
[18:13] <push> theadmin: ok
[18:13] <kbrosnan> theadmin: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol
[18:13] <sliddjur> I did a sudo useradd peter and passwd peter. then i tried to login with peter from the regular login window. why doesnt it work?
[18:13] <rsw> http://pastebin.com/1qzVT0rK there should be a 480gtx in the other pci slot
[18:14] <ska> theadmin: i see the point of your first comment. It also allows you to run the command with -s flag so you can check its action.
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> sliddjur: what happens when you log in? saying "it doesn't work" tells us nothing
[18:14] <theadmin> kbrosnan: Thanks!
[18:14] <codemaniac> ~/j perl
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> codemaniac: try:  /j #perl
[18:14] <sliddjur> actionparsnip: something black comes with a text i am too slow to read. then a sound. and straight back to logon screen
[18:15] <rtdos> one more question (2 parts): does ubuntu server come with sdl / opengl installed? if not how do i install the sdl / opengl libraries?
[18:15] <watermark> holy shit godaddy is down
[18:15] <codemaniac> ActionParsnip: thanks :D
[18:15] <IdleOne> !language | watermark
[18:15] <watermark> holy cow godaddy is down
[18:16] <IdleOne> watermark: What does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[18:16] <theadmin> IdleOne: Now fire !ot ;)
[18:16] <watermark> it affects everything
[18:16] <rsw> stop doss nowz
[18:16] <watermark> I'm done thou
[18:16] <IdleOne> theadmin: !language actually covers !ot also
[18:16] <theadmin> IdleOne: Guess so. Sorry.
[18:16] <IdleOne> theadmin: no worries :)
[18:16] <rtdos> is there a #channel for ubuntu server ?
[18:17] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-server
[18:17] <theadmin> rtdos: Yep, #ubuntu-server
[18:17] <rtdos> thanks.
[18:17] <rsw> brb gonna check bios if the pci lane is enabled cos i dont know what else to do to get the other card detected
[18:18] <Jordan_U> rtdos: Are you looking for the development libraries (headers), or the runtime libraries? If you're looking for the runtime libraries they should be installed when you install any package which needs them.  I don't know enough about sdl to say if that's what you'll want to develop against as well.
[18:25] <drecute> karamel4e_:  what backups?
[18:26] <rocket_hamster> rtdos: sudo apt-get libsdl1.2-dev
[18:26] <karamel4e_> recute: What's the question?
[18:26] <karamel4e_> drecute: What's the question?
[18:28] <Jordan_U> rocket_hamster: You forgot "install".
[18:28] <rocket_hamster> rtdos: sudo apt-get install mesa-common-dev freeglut3-dev
[18:28] <rocket_hamster> that should be it
[18:28] <miraj> are there any snmp utils? (to manage snmp-able devices)
[18:31] <kevin__> can I ask...Which graphics driver is likely to be best for linux, NVidea or ATI?
[18:31] <ska> Is there a logout equivalent in dash?
[18:31] <ahferroin7> ska: exit
[18:32] <miraj> kevin__ : always an opinion, but I'd say ATI
[18:32] <ska> ahferroin7: I want to put it into a script so that it logs out the user, instead of ending ther script.
[18:32] <kevin__> opinion accepted miraj
[18:32] <kevin__> and thanks
[18:32] <theadmin> ska: You can't exactly do that...
[18:33] <ska> theadmin: yea,, I'm thinking "kill -9 -1"
[18:33] <rsw> so can i some way let ubuntu scan for new hardware because it fails to detect my second gfx card
[18:33] <karamel4e_> drecute, what about the backups
[18:33] <dr_willis> kevin__: i avoid ati like its the plague...
[18:33] <theadmin> ska: idk if that would work
[18:34] <kevin__> opinion  noted dr_wills
[18:34] <ska> theadmin: it does..
[18:34] <ska> theadmin: but its kinda crude.
[18:34] <theadmin> ska: Yeah, but logging out a user is not something scripts normally do.
[18:35] <miraj> kevin__ : the alternative you proposed, Nvidia, has real driver problems for most users
[18:36] <kevin__> I have two ubuntu machines in the house, same network, which file sharing system should I use? Mostly I want to access movies on my main  pc and watch on my laptop?
[18:36] <compdoc> kevin__, samba isnt bad
[18:37] <D3> hello! I was wondering if there's any channel where I can beg for help with Ubuntu ? I installed a tar.bz2 and im unable to load the program :(
[18:37] <dr_willis> kevin__:  upnp/dlna servers are handy  for video sgareing
[18:37] <Kevin`> kevin__: I use nfs, since it's a bit faster, but really anything works, use whatever is easiest
[18:37] <kevin__> really I want the easiest to set up...editing files and stuff is a little bit scary
[18:38] <Euph0ria-XX> hello all.  I've been giving the btrfs fs a try and I've encountered my first errors with the filesystem.  I'm not sure how to repair the filesystem though.  Can anyone help teach me a bit about that?
[18:38] <ahferroin7> kevin__: sshfs is easy, although it is somewhat slow
[18:39] <ahferroin7> EuphOria-XX: I'm pretty sure there isn't a repair program for btrfs yet
[18:39] <kevin__> sshfs? not looked at that. I did try   nfs but got lot in the set  up.
[18:39] <D3> anyone experienced with tar.bz2 compilation ?
[18:39] <miraj> kevin__ : do you intend the watch the video live on-the-fly, or transfer them forst and then watch them?
[18:39] <kevin__> miraj, transfer (temporarily) and watch later
[18:40] <miraj> kevin__ : in that case, ftp is fastest
[18:40] <Kevin`> kevin__: any specific reason? even wifi is fast enough to watch them on the fly
[18:40] <Euph0ria-XX> I recall reading that there has been a repair tool since quantal alpha-1 but I was hoping someone here might have had a bit more experience with the testing of the alphas.
[18:40] <ozette> are webpages rendered differently in Chrome on ubuntu compared to chrome on windows?
[18:41] <ska> Is there a system script that logs a person completely out?
[18:41] <theadmin> ozette: Nope, same engine (webkit)
[18:41] <Euph0ria-XX> I'm using alpha 3.  There should be a beta by now...
[18:41] <theadmin> !quantal | Euph0ria-XX
[18:41] <Euph0ria-XX> but apparently not.
[18:41] <dr_willis> ozette:  never seen a diferance
[18:41] <kevin__> wow, kevin...I was not able to do that. I did use ssh and managed to access konsole.
[18:41] <kevin__> that is far as I can share
[18:41] <raido> Finally retiring a Dapper Drake server this week. Shes been running Ubuntu since Warty and has never undergone any hardware upgrades. She has been a faithful Hylafax, Snedmail, Spamassassin, Vexira server for 8 years and when I turn her off she will have 500 days of uptime.
[18:41] <ozette> theadmin, I designed a webpage to work in Chrome, FF, IE and Opera, I did this in a windows vm, when I brought the files over to Ubuntu it looked really messed up in Chrome
[18:42] <layke> How would I auto mount on startup... This is what I currently type...
[18:42] <layke> sudo mount --bind /media/6d722723-7eb9-4b60-9e7c-8f958e36e739/home/layke /home/layke
[18:42] <kevin__> I will look into sshfs, thanks for all the help.
[18:42] <ozette> I spent so much time on it, but now I see it in chrome I feel weird.
[18:43] <raido> 			Feedback
[18:43] <Euph0ria-XX> Ok, sorry.  I was just hoping someone had some more experience than I with the btrfs in new releases and it might be simple.  lol
[18:43] <dr_willis> layke:  just edit the /etc/fstab file to mount that drive  where you want.
[18:43] <dr_willis> layke:  no need to have it in /m,edia/ and /home/ both
[18:44] <layke> Would I just add it like...  /media/6d722723-7eb9-4b60-9e7c-8f958e36e739/home/layke /home/layke auto
[18:44] <dr_willis> !fstab | layke
[18:45] <ozette> I share a folder with my Windows VM, as soon as I put the webpage in there It looks different, like that shared folder is affecting my file - i.e a webfont not being 20px anymore but all of a sudden 10px
[18:45] <ozette> anyone ever experienced such thing?
[18:45] <dr_willis> layke:  what filesystem is that partition anyway?
[18:45] <layke> dr_willis, How do I detect that? df something? I can't reemmeber?
[18:45] <ozette> just by opening the file from that shared folder somethings look different
[18:45] <calico> I have an issue with my atheros wireless, it keeps dropping me, could I do something about it? It starts ok after installation, and then the problem keeps on getting more and more intensive
[18:46] <layke> dr_willis, df -T remembered. It's ext4
[18:46] <sliddjur> So im taking my first linux class. where would be a good place to store files that are supposed to be shared between groups?
[18:48] <miraj> sliddjur : under /home is usually Ok
[18:48] <sliddjur> in /usr/groupfolder ?
[18:48] <ratcheer> sliddjur: Make a subdirectory under /home
[18:48] <WeThePeople> hi
[18:48] <sliddjur> ok. why not in /usr?
[18:49] <miraj> sliddjur : /usr is usually more for system things rather than shared user files
[18:49] <ratcheer> sliddjur: Put it wherever you want, just make sure it is a special subdirectory.
[18:49] <theadmin> sliddjur: /usr is much of a system directory, it's a second-level hierarchy, sort of "a second /", so to say.
[18:50] <sliddjur> I made the groupfolder g+s and group owner of the specific group
[18:50] <ChogyDan> calico: what version of ubuntu?
[18:50] <sliddjur> ratcheer: is that what u mean by special subdir?
[18:50] <calico> ChogyDan: the latest
[18:51] <ChogyDan> calico: I thought atheros issues were a thing of the past, but you could try installing linux backports modules
[18:51] <ratcheer> sliddjur: I just mean a folder that's used by nothing else, a new folder. But, I agree with theadmin
[18:51] <sliddjur> Alright. will do that :)
[18:51] <sliddjur> thanks folks
[18:52] <theadmin> It seems Ubuntu dropped support for about every architecture but i386 and amd64, is that really so?
[18:53] <ph1rmw4r3> why use /usr insted of /home/user ??
[18:53] <calico> ChogyDan: how do I go about that, I find only old threads
[18:54] <miraj> theadmin : as of two days ago, macs apparently were
[18:54] <Orpheon> I need help with my ubuntu 11.10; The whole thing crashes at boot. Escaping to console with Alt-Ctrl-F1 and typing startx starts the whole GUI, but Pulseaudio is dead, the networking services ditto and unity refuses to start in unity-non-2d.
[18:55] <sliddjur> If a dir has g+s can users of that group execute files?
[18:55] <ChogyDan> calico: Im not sure actually.  It's changed every release, and I can't quite figure this one out.  Doesn't really seem to be in the repos that I can see
[18:56] <miraj> Orpheon : does the hardware work OK in other os's (like windows for example)?
[18:56] <Orpheon> The logs in lightdm say that a service lightdm-greeter could not be executed because of missing permissions
[18:56] <push> getting error in script  snippet http://paste.ubuntu.com/1197218/
[18:56] <ChogyDan> Orpheon: why aren't you on 12.04?
[18:56] <Orpheon> idk, it's not a dualboot
[18:56] <Orpheon> ChogyDan: because this isn't my laptop
[18:56] <theadmin> miraj: "macs" is not a processor architecture, unless you're refering to the old ppc arch (which interests me too though)
[18:56] <eleazar> is there a firewall built into ubuntu?
[18:56] <theadmin> But primarily, I wonder why there's no more support for ia64
[18:56] <jrib> sliddjur: your question isn't clear, but in any case g+s should be irrelevant as to wherer or not a user can execute a file
[18:56] <theadmin> eleazar: Yes, Ubuntu comes with ufw (an iptables frontend)
[18:57] <Orpheon> pulseaudio also complains of access denied on a ListAdapters reply
[18:57] <Orpheon> whatever that means
[18:57] <ChogyDan> Orpheon: is there room on the HDD?
[18:57] <eleazar> theadmin, great, how do i open ufw? (it's not showing up in dash home)
[18:58] <theadmin> eleazar: It's a command-line tool. If you want a GUI, install "gufw" from the software center.
[18:58] <ssta> theadmin: largely because nobody was interested enough to maintain it I think...it was never that widespread an architecture
[18:58] <theadmin> ssta: Guess that makes sense... I just hope there are no plans to drop i386 since it's no longer really "widespread"
[18:58] <BluesKaj> Orpheon, check if alsa is stiil installed then , pulseuadio runs on top of alsa as a sound server
[18:59] <Orpheon> ChogyDan: yes, there is 261 GB
[18:59] <Orpheon> free
[18:59] <eleazar> theadmin, awesome, thanks!
[18:59] <ssta> theadmin: I doubt there are plans, but the day will come I'm sure
[18:59] <Orpheon> BluesKaj: alsa seems to be up and running
[19:00] <ChogyDan> Orpheon: well, I dunno.  Maybe there are clues if you knew how this started.  Upgrading and clean installing are both good ways to start clean
[19:01] <Orpheon> ChogyDan: I suspect doing stuff with compiz destroyed stuff
[19:01] <ChogyDan> BluesKaj: Orpheon: I thought alsa ran on top of pulse as a plugin
[19:01] <Orpheon> but I'm not sure
[19:01] <theadmin> ssta: Well I'm on amd64 mostly, speaking of, what -march is used when official packages for amd64 are compiled? k8? core2?
[19:02] <eleazar> ah, looks like the firewall is disabled by default
[19:02] <ssta> theadmin: I dunno
[19:03] <theadmin> ssta: Ok, never mind, not much of an important thing anyway
[19:03] <BluesKaj> ChogyDan, nope , it's the reverse , altho pulse isn't a plugin
[19:03] <ChogyDan> Orpheon: well, I used to run a separate /home so I could easily reinstall if I messed things up.  Reinstalling really can be the easier than trying to track down problems individually
[19:03] <ChogyDan> BluesKaj: I was saying that alsa is a plugin
[19:04] <BluesKaj> ChogyDan, you can run alsa without pulse but pulse can't run without alsa
[19:05] <ChogyDan> BluesKaj: I have always heard the opposite, which is why I asked
[19:05] <ChogyDan> but I don't really know
[19:05] <BluesKaj> well , whoever says that, is misinformed , ChogyDan
[19:06] <theadmin> ChogyDan: ALSA is the common linux sound system. Pulse is another sound system, which uses ALSA as a backend and adds more capabilities to it.
[19:07] <BluesKaj> too bad we need pulseaudio ,. alsa used towork fine on it's own ,,now the devs are barely expanding it's capabilities due to pulse getting all the dev work
[19:08] <Phiscribe> i cant remember pulse ever working right
[19:09] <Orpheon> still need help, if anyone has to give
[19:10] <BluesKaj> Phiscribe, it seems ok on my setup, I just think if alsa could be configured to work with webaudio like flash audio , then pulse would be redundant
[19:10] <rtdos> ok lost sudo capability, am getting weird messages when i try to use sudo. how can i fix this without logging in as root?
[19:10] <Phiscribe> i got systems what have browers that play sound, no pulse, just alsa
[19:11] <ChogyDan> theadmin: again, I have read the opposite everytime.  This is the first I have heard alsa being a backend to pulse.  My understanding is pulse took over everything, and supported alsa as a legacy via a plugin
[19:11] <unknown420> can a staffer please give me an unaffilated clock?
[19:11] <theadmin> ChogyDan: Well that sounds completely wrong.
[19:11] <unknown420> cloak?
[19:11] <theadmin> unknown420: #freenode please
[19:11] <theadmin> unknown420: Not here
[19:11] <Phiscribe> pulse is an abstraction layer, if alsa is busted, no pusle
[19:11] <unknown420> where?
[19:12] <theadmin> unknown420: As I said, join the #freenode channel.
[19:12] <BluesKaj> Phiscribe, using onboard audio on those systems without pulse?
[19:12] <unknown420> cheers
[19:12] <HEuiHEUIhEui> hi everyone, what irc client you use?
[19:13] <theadmin> HEuiHEUIhEui: Please refrain from taking polls in this channel, this here is for support issues only.
[19:13] <Phiscribe> pulseaudio is like a software mixer.  its on top of the userland, it requires something under like alsa, pulse is never required
[19:13] <HEuiHEUIhEui> I'm trying a lot os clients, what´s the top client actually?
[19:13] <jagginess> HEuiHEUIhEui, there's google I use-> "List of irc clients linux site:wikipedia.org"
[19:14] <HEuiHEUIhEui> jagginess: and for windows?
[19:14] <theadmin> Phiscribe: Infact, Gnome 3 "requires" Pulse. More of, they were too lazy to let it control ALSA directly so they only let it use Pulse.
[19:14] <jagginess> HEuiHEUIhEui, google
[19:14] <doug1> Does anyone have any idea what packages besides ntp may create the ntp user? is there an easy way to find out?
[19:14] <jrib> rtdos: you should pastebin the "weird" messages
[19:14] <Phiscribe> theadmin oh i didnt know that, how foobared
[19:14] <Phiscribe> still alsa has to be in there
[19:14] <HEuiHEUIhEui> jagginess: special thank´s for the world´s best answer :)
[19:15] <theadmin> Phiscribe: Sure is
[19:15] <jrib> doug1: you could grep /var/lib/dpkg/info/ I guess
[19:15] <mbeierl> HEuiHEUIhEui, this is an Ubuntu support channel, not Windows or IRC.
[19:15] <BluesKaj> ChogyDan, thi might interest you : http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/01/how-to-remove-pulseaudio-use-alsa-ubuntu-linux/
[19:15] <Orpheon> would anyone have an explanation to why everything including lightdm and pulseaudio don't work because of permission errors?
[19:15] <jrib> Orpheon: because of permission errors
[19:15] <doug1> jrib: Oh i see. didn't know that existed. Looks like uit has output of postinstall scripts. Handy. thanks
[19:16] <jagginess> Orpheon, you getting desktop freezes?
[19:16] <jrib> doug1: yeah.  It will only have it for packages you've installed though.  I'm assuming that's good enough for your question
[19:16] <Phiscribe> stuff doesnt work cause dev's like to make new cool things, not fix boring old bugs maybe?
[19:16] <Orpheon> jrib: do you happen to know a possible fix?
[19:16] <doug1> jrib: totally
[19:16] <jrib> Orpheon: I don't even know the problem
[19:16] <BluesKaj> Orpheon, were you using autoloogin previous to your lightdm crash ?
[19:16] <Phiscribe> and nobody is getting paid enuff
[19:16] <Orpheon> jagginess: no
[19:17] <Orpheon> BluesKaj: no
[19:17] <Orpheon> oh, and spftware center doesn't look capable of installing packages either
[19:17] <Orpheon> and no network connection of any kind, wired or not, can be made
[19:18] <Phiscribe> Orpheon if ever run a gui app with sudo instead of gksudo, well weird things can happen
[19:18] <jagginess> Orpheon, if you're *sure lightdm is a problem, and tried all avenues, there's also "gdm" as a login manager
[19:18] <jagginess> Orpheon, gdm will start and disable lightdm
[19:18] <jagginess> ,/(it disables the other, you can always enable lightdm later, with dpkg-reconfigure lightdm)
[19:18] <Orpheon> gdm; Unrecognized service
[19:19] <jagginess> apt-get install it
[19:19] <jagginess> ()
[19:19] <Orpheon> no internet on that pc
[19:19] <zanberdo> question: can one install 12.04 with full disk encryption?  That is, I would like to partition my disk with /boot, /, /home, and swap. I've encrypted the entire partition, used lvm to create the four listed parts but when grub2 attempts to write to the MBR I get the dreaded GRUB can not write to /dev/sda error.  Should I use the old-style of creating /boot as unencrypted?  I thought grub2 had support to decrypt a part then boot
[19:19] <zanberdo> .  Is that not the case?
[19:19] <jagginess> well then get internet
[19:19] <jagginess> a pc without internet is useless
[19:19] <BluesKaj> Orpheon, suggest you install either gdm or kdm for login , lightdm still has some bugs
[19:19] <Orpheon> jagginess: As I mentioned before, I can't get it to connect
[19:19] <Phiscribe> Orpheon check your /tmp permisions, if they are out of whack...well
[19:19] <Orpheon> BluesKaj: as a permanent solution I want lightdm
[19:20] <Orpheon> that tmp idea might be correct... let me check
[19:20] <BluesKaj> Orpheon, sometimes what you want isn't going to work for you , but it's your call
[19:20] <jagginess> why not help him fix his internet, that's more important..
[19:21] <Orpheon> Most folders in tmp have owner myself, with folder r&w, no file access, and nothing whatsoever for everything else
[19:21] <Orpheon> is that as it should be?
[19:21] <sazawal> I cannot configure my Thunderbird for gmail account. Any help?
[19:21] <BluesKaj> jagginess, it could be as Phiscribe suggested , a permissions proiblem
[19:22] <rtdos> i get this error message when using sudo: http://pastebin.com/tqT1ysPF
[19:22] <jagginess> well if he gets internet on that pc, first thing he should do is update any packages.
[19:22] <jagginess> ^
[19:22] <Orpheon> jagginess: I'm not going to get that
[19:22] <Orpheon> tried all forms of it already
[19:23] <buffalo960> I have a problem on my laptop, I have a core i5 and it doesn't seem to be dynamically clocking properly (stuck at 800mhz). Is there any way I can force it to full speed all the time?
[19:24] <Phiscribe> drwxrwxrwt for tmp
[19:24] <BluesKaj> rtdos, have been editing the sudoers file ?  parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 28
[19:24] <jagginess> buffalo960, maybe you should install the intel microcode pacakge if it's not installed
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> buffalo960, I use indicator-cpufreq to control.
[19:25]  * jagginess thinks speedstep as a keyword to search packages related
[19:27] <A[D]minS> !iphone
[19:28] <rtdos> i get this error message when using sudo: http://pastebin.com/tqT1ysPF
[19:28] <culture> Hello
[19:28] <buffalo960> jagginess, yay that seems to have worked. Thanks a lot :)
[19:29] <o0oScoRcHo0o> i have an ubuntu server that upon reboot asks for a disk check... i run the check and fix the errors.. but when i reboot again ... it asks again and constantly boots into readonly mode.  I cannot get this to work.  The fsck appears to fix the errors, because if i run it twice, the second attempt shows up clean... any ideas?
[19:30] <thebishop> hello ubuntuers
[19:31] <thebishop> i'm seeing an odd issue with sound.  running 12.04, kernel 3.2.0-30-generic.  audio works fine through speakers.  when i plug in headphones, pulse senses the jack and switches to headphone output, but i hear no sound.  system volume and rhythmbox volume are both maxed.
[19:33] <Orpheon> what does this mean?
[19:33] <Orpheon> WARNING: Failed to open CK session: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit was not provided by any .service files
[19:34] <daemon> hey all I just installed a MTA (exim4) and it broke up the config into sections:
[19:34] <daemon> acl/ auth/ routers/ etc...
[19:34] <daemon> how do I tell it I just want one single config file
[19:34] <geekzero> hola
[19:34] <geekzero> ai alguien que hable español?
[19:35] <geekzero> HOOLAAAAAAAAA
[19:35] <alpre> o0oScoRcHo0o: post you fstab
[19:36] <thebishop> daemon, that looks like the normal behavior
[19:36] <thebishop> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Spam-Filtering-for-MX/exim-configfile.html
[19:36] <Orpheon> what does this mean?
[19:36] <Orpheon> GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit was not provided by any .service files
[19:36] <o0oScoRcHo0o> alpre: there is nothing wrong with the FSTAB.. it hasn't changed.. I did now remove the fsck by cahnging the pass-num to 0... so it will boot in RW
[19:36] <alpre> thebishop: can you see the sound playing on the output in pavucontrol?
[19:37] <o0oScoRcHo0o> alpre: so basically i am cheating
[19:37] <daemon> thebishop, non of my other servers have it in that style
[19:37] <o0oScoRcHo0o> alpre: mind you .. i only changed the drive having this issue (unfortunately the root drive) over to not runa  check..
[19:37] <daemon> thebishop, kinda disorienbtating dealing with it
[19:37] <alpre> o0oScoRcHo0o: I had a brtfs root booting for a month, and suddenly it would do the same, then I read that one option was wrong for that fs
[19:37] <daemon> disorientating*
[19:38] <o0oScoRcHo0o> alpre: weird.. yeah.. i mean it boots fine if i just change that one flag..
[19:38] <alpre> sorry, no idea o0oScoRcHo0o
[19:40] <thebishop> alpre, yes.
[19:42] <alpre> thebishop: are you sure it is the headphone sink, does it switch sinks when you plug in the headphones? I'd look into module options for your hardware maybe, they can be set in .pulse/default.conf or something.
[19:46] <jagginess> alpre, you mean if the audio syncs with the video
[19:46] <jagginess> alpre, a small delay is fine as long as it's not too long
[19:47] <alpre>  jagginess no, just if it is the sink that is supposed to be playing.
[19:47] <ii00907> !list
[19:47] <Dresk|Laptop> Hello, I can't start X right now because I changed video cards - what's the procedure for Ubuntu to change the X video driver without having access to a GUI?
[19:48] <ChogyDan> Dresk|Laptop: try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[19:49] <ChogyDan> Dresk|Laptop: or maybe you want to remove the old video card driver
[19:50] <ChogyDan> Dresk|Laptop: sudo apt-get remove dkms     that might remove all the proprietary video card drivers
[19:50] <blackdevilz> salve
[19:51] <Dresk|Laptop> ChogyDan: Any risk of anything else it might remove?
[19:51] <thebishop> alpre, on the "Output Devices" tab, under "Built-in Audio Analog Stereo", when I plug/unplug, the "Port" field switches from "Speakers" to "Headphones" and vice-versa
[19:51] <Hexeon> Does anyone know about "Schulze method" for voting?
[19:51] <ChogyDan> Dresk|Laptop: yes, virtualbox drivers, or any other driver.     But if you describe the hardware, I might be able to give a more targeted command
[19:52] <Dresk|Laptop> ChogyDan: I'm going from an NVIDIA GTS 200, using (I believe) NVIDIA's proprietary installer (but I can check for dkms) to Intel Ivy Bridge onboard (Z77 chipset)
[19:52] <ChogyDan> Hexeon: try asking in offtopic
[19:52] <ChogyDan> Dresk|Laptop: oO   so you just removed the card?
[19:53] <Dresk|Laptop> ChogyDan: In the system I am working on right now, the card is plugged in but the BIOS was told to use onboard and that's where the HDMI cable is
[19:53] <ChogyDan> Dresk|Laptop: regardless, `dkms status`     if nvidia is the only thing listed, removing dkms should work
[19:54] <Dresk|Laptop> ChogyDan: Yes, it's the only thing listed
[19:54] <LibertyTrader> I have a 32 GB SSD and 500 GB HD In my laptop, what is the best way to install ubuntu?
[19:55] <ChogyDan> LibertyTrader: define "best"   and maybe folks can help further
[19:55] <BluesKaj> the nouveau driver should work with nividia card and doesn't require Dresk|Laptop
[19:55] <LibertyTrader> I want to use SSD to load my system and maybe some applications, but HDD for everything else
[19:56] <LibertyTrader> Probably just system loaded by SSD for now
[19:56] <alpre> thebishop: I'd guess a different jack is used than what you expect, you should be able to change the mapping in the module options then.
[19:56] <Dresk|Laptop> BluesKaj: I'm no longer using NVIDIA, I'm switching to onboard Ivy Bridge
[19:56] <BluesKaj> Dresk|Laptop, it doesn't reuire dkms
[19:56] <ChogyDan> LibertyTrader: than I guess just install to the SSD, and setup the HDD as /home
[19:56] <LibertyTrader> How do I do that?
[19:57] <Dresk|Laptop> BluesKaj: Well the first thing I noticed is mplayer performance is HORRIBLE, it seems to have no hardware scaling, it's running at like 1/4 the framerate
[19:57] <Dresk|Laptop> My next question was going to be what kernel is needed for Intel Ivy Bridge drivers
[19:57] <LibertyTrader> I anticipate I will have at least 50 GB of applications
[19:57] <LibertyTrader> so I don't know if that is a good setup
[19:57] <BluesKaj> Dresk|Laptop, what about vlc ?
[19:57] <ChogyDan> LibertyTrader: when it comes time to partition (during the installation process), ask to do, wait what?
[19:57] <ChogyDan> LibertyTrader: 50GB of apps?  what apps?  are these games?
[19:58] <LibertyTrader> yes games and development tools
[19:58] <LibertyTrader> like Quartus
[19:58] <BluesKaj> Dresk|Laptop, the kernel source driver should work
[19:58] <thebishop> alpre, i should've said audio works most of the time.  i've only seen this odd muted headphone thing once or twice before.  and now that you mention it, i plugged into the microphone jack.  still no audio, but both the input and output switched to 'line in' and 'headphones' respectively.  is that normal?  I wouldn't expect the output to change
[19:59] <drecute> i'm running netbeans on a latop with 8 cores 4gb and netbeans is still slow to a crawl on ubuntu
[20:00] <LibertyTrader> ChogyDan: do you see why I am concerned?
[20:00] <ChogyDan> LibertyTrader: well, I don't know.  Maybe maybe you could have all the app files mounted to the HDD?
[20:00] <ChogyDan> LibertyTrader: I do, but 50GB is a HUGE amount of apps
[20:00] <ChogyDan> LibertyTrader: unless its games, so... it's just unexpected
[20:01] <LibertyTrader> And my system is UEFI...
[20:01] <LibertyTrader> I'm in for a trat...
[20:01] <LibertyTrader> I bought a nice shiny ultrabook that used the SSD as a cache to 500 GB HD
[20:01] <ChogyDan> LibertyTrader: maybe dual boot, one for regular use, and one for all those games.
[20:01] <LibertyTrader> But linux doesn't support that
[20:03] <NEone> Trying to install the wine emulator to be able to run Windows programs. ... There's wine, wine 1.4, qt4wine, wine-config... OMG, so many packets! ...Which ones should I choose?
[20:03] <tfhlap> is there a way / a software that allows me to tell which device is using how much bandwidth of my wifi network for Ubuntu?
[20:04] <LibertyTrader> Is there a way I can just put the kernel and boot stuff on the SSD?
[20:04] <tzvi_> where can i download the mintmenu for ubuntu 12.04
[20:05] <tzvi_> ?
[20:05] <ChogyDan> LibertyTrader: maybe by mounting /boot to ssd, but I don't think that will garner you much performance benefit
[20:05] <tfhlap> is there a way / a software that allows me to tell which device is using how much bandwidth of my wifi network for Ubuntu?
[20:05] <NEone> tfhlap: I guess your linux box can't measure that. You've got to be looking in the wifi-router, there must be options and a monitor for QoS/bandwidth.
[20:05] <ChogyDan> LibertyTrader: in fact, the HDD might be faster for that...
[20:06] <luckyruby> getting Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces. What should I use then to restart after modifying that file?
[20:06] <guntbert> !repeat | tfhlap
[20:06] <tfhlap> @NEone ok thanks
[20:06] <ChogyDan> luckyruby: maybe sudo service networking restart, or something to that effect
[20:06] <tzvi_> where can i doenloaded mintmenu for ubuntu 12.04
[20:10] <kovu> hello
[20:11] <BluesKaj> luckyruby,  /etc/init.d/networking restart , still works . I just used that command 2 days and several reboots later my suystem still connects to internet just fine.
[20:12] <BluesKaj> 2 days ago
[20:13] <alpre> thebishop: no idea, try changing the module parameters in PA
[20:13] <alpre> thebishop: you can change the hardware config in pavucontrol too
[20:15] <thebishop> alpre, hmm, which hardware configs are you thinking of?  I've played around with all the ones i see.  is there some advanced configuration menu?
[20:15] <Pupuser402-1> hi
[20:16] <Pupuser402-1> maybe someone has a temptation to tell me does grub erasing mbr sector when it's written there?
[20:16] <alpre> thebishop: I meant those in the menu, other than that look at the module parameters
[20:16] <Pupuser402-1> i'd like to erase it and I thought that it could be easy way to do it
[20:16] <alpre> haven't tried microphone yet thebishop
[20:17] <alpre> luckyruby: try ifdown and ifup
[20:17] <alpre> luckyruby: I guess you modified interfaces
[20:18] <Pupuser402-1> hmm?
[20:19] <kontagious> hello, i cannot get the battery icon to appear in my ubuntu 12.04. I have tried "show battery status in the menu bar" in power settings but it doesnt seem to work. i have also tried reinstalling Indicator Applet Complete but it didn't fix it either.
[20:20] <alpre> tfhlap: you can use tcpdump for that if you know the ip addresses of the devices
[20:20] <WarOfTheNerd> Guys, how can I make dpkg skip --configure?
[20:20] <ubuntUser> yo
[20:20] <WarOfTheNerd> I have a badly-written package installed that ruins apt
[20:21] <ubuntUser> i tried to install ubuntu on a paritioned HDD , did the install but i get once i restart the laptop a No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key error
[20:21] <trism> kontagious: do you have indicator-power installed?
[20:21] <ubuntUser> any thoughts please !!!
[20:21] <ikonia> ubuntUser: grub was not installed
[20:21] <ikonia> ubuntUser: make sure grub is installed to the master boot record of the boot drive
[20:22] <ubuntUser> ok and how do i install the GRUB ?
[20:22] <BitWraith_> how do I control which renderer mesa uses?
[20:22] <ikonia> ubuntUser: the installer should do it for you, just pay attention where it puts it
[20:22] <kontagious> trism: "indicator-power is already the newest version"
[20:22] <trism> kontagious: if it is, check that: upower --enumerate; returns something, if indicator-power can't find a battery it will hide itself
[20:22] <zyphex> Anyone know a good opensource solution/combination of opensource tools for hotspot billing and captive portal?
[20:23] <kontagious> trism: the only device is line_power_AC
[20:23] <ubuntUser> well it's the second time ikonia i tried to install it, i created the partitions table with /, /home and swap
[20:23] <ubuntUser> do i need more ?
[20:23] <kontagious> trism: its good to note it shows when it's about to die, or plugged in
[20:23] <ikonia> ubuntUser: that should be fine
[20:23] <trism> kontagious: yeah then it is probably there but hidden
[20:24] <_Aviator__> Anyone know of a Ubuntu 12.04 system monitor applet that doesn't leak memory?
[20:24] <alpre> ubuntUser: you install grub to sda, that is the mbr of sda, not sda1 or some other partition
[20:24] <ubuntUser> ohhh
[20:24] <BitWraith_> I have the X server running, nd I believe it's using the nouveau driver now, but I'm not getting direct rendering... on Gentoo, I would normally use eselect mesa set to fix this. How's it done on Ubuntu?
[20:24] <ubuntUser> alpre thing is i have 2 hdd's on PC
[20:25] <ubuntUser> one is paritioned from 250 to a 211 and a 38
[20:25] <alpre> ubuntUser: then the installer should default to the drive set in bios to boot first, otherwise decide yourself and set it in bios too
[20:25] <ubuntUser> i am trying to install it in the 38GB partition
[20:25] <ikonia> ubuntUser: master boot record of the boot disk - install grub to it
[20:25] <ubuntUser> i did that ...but i get the same error
[20:25] <ikonia> ubuntUser: the partitions don't matter, just watch where grub is installed
[20:25] <ikonia> ubuntUser: you didn't - you can't have just re-installed in 2 minutes
[20:26] <ubuntUser> not now mate... today
[20:26] <ubuntUser> i did it two times
[20:26] <ikonia> ubuntUser: right, so re-install, and pay attention to where grub is installed
[20:26] <ubuntUser> and i tihnk i messed it up twice as it seems
[20:26] <alpre> ubuntUser: use the drive which boots first
[20:27] <ubuntUser> understood
[20:27] <ubuntUser> thank you !
[20:27] <kontagious> trism: after googling, i powered down, removed and inserted battery, and now it works. thanks for the idea(s)
[20:28] <kontagious> i would have never guessed it was hidden
[20:29] <utops> how to compile i686 on x64?
[20:29] <utops> +kernel
[20:29] <ikonia> utops: why are you compiling the kernel ?
[20:31] <ubuntUser> ok..so install it in /dev/sda and it should be OK /
[20:31] <ikonia> grub should auto install to /dev/sda (master boot record) unless you tell it not to
[20:31] <ubuntUser> great
[20:31] <ubuntUser> thanks !
[20:32] <utops> ikonia: im installing  gentoo i686 on free partion,using ubuntu.
[20:32] <ikonia> utops: so #gentoo is your channel
[20:32] <alpre> ubuntUser: np :)
[20:32] <ubuntUser> thanks guys , catch you later !
[20:32] <utops> Im almost done,only kernel need to be compiled on i686,but it won't
[20:32] <ikonia> utops: so #gentoo is your channel
[20:32] <utops> guess so.
[20:35] <Dresk|Laptop> I have no idea right now why this is happening, but Ubuntu is booting my drive with only one mount point, /, and it's 100% full, when there should be other mount points - what utilities should I use to investigate what's going on with the drive?
[20:36] <ikonia> Dresk|Laptop: a.) try to manually mount the partitions b.) look at the fstab c.) clean up your main partition
[20:36] <ubuntu8> ciao
[20:37] <ubuntu8> atutti:)
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> Dresk|Laptop  type sudo fdisk -l|pastebinit and paste the url here
[20:37] <ubuntu8> c'e qualche italiano?
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> !it
[20:38] <ubuntu8> sorry! tanks!
[20:39] <unknown420> cant find screem for 11.10???
[20:39] <Dresk|Laptop> MonkeyDust: I can't really do that because the entire drive is full
[20:40] <Dresk|Laptop> MonkeyDust: Is there a way to list all files above a certain filesize with ls or such?
[20:40] <ruif13> how can i downgrade pho 5.3.10 php 5.2
[20:40] <ruif13> ?
[20:42] <mbrigdan> Anyone know how I could remove every other page in a pdf under ubuntu?
[20:46] <zykotick9> Dresk|Laptop: running "sudo apt-get clean" will remove downloaded packages... might free some space for you
[20:46] <Dresk|Laptop> zykotick9: Thanks, let me see if it can even do that command
[20:47] <Dresk|Laptop> zykotick9: Unfortunately I can't do anything, it's 100% out of space
[20:47] <drecute> i'm running netbeans on a latop with 8 cores 4gb and netbeans is still slow to a crawl on ubuntu
[20:47] <zykotick9> Dresk|Laptop: you could try, "sudo -i" then retry above command without the sudo
[20:48] <extrasolar> netbeans 7.x?
[20:48] <drecute> extrasolar: yes
[20:49] <drecute> extrasolar: i also configured it to use opengl. I experienced worse performance
[20:49] <drecute> extrasolar: i gave it 1024m, no improvement as well
[20:49] <extrasolar> Do you have to use netbeans?
[20:49] <drecute> extrasolar: yes
[20:50] <drecute> extrasolar: eclipse is no better
[20:50] <extrasolar> interesting, what;s your full specs?
[20:50] <extrasolar> and laptop name/model
[20:50] <drecute> extrasolar: sony vaio F series
[20:50] <ssta> eclipse is slow always...that's the default speed.  Netbeans is generally faster though (unless you have a lot of modules enabled)
[20:51] <DrGrov> Hi, sitting on 10.04. Would like to check that I do not have SSH enabled on my install and check for attempted root access from the outside. I check the log in /var/log/messages, correct? I usually use grep ssh /var/log/messages
[20:51] <_cronus_> mbrigdan: take a look at pdftk. It has the ability to select odd and even pages with the cat command
[20:51] <drecute> nvidia GEFORCE with cuda, intel core i7
[20:51] <Dresk|Laptop> Something VERY weird is happening; after I got the space and rebooting, the other partitions mounted, but the main mount point is still 100% full
[20:51] <extrasolar> That's strange
[20:51] <drecute> 8 cores, 4GB, ubuntu 11.10
[20:52] <Dresk|Laptop> Now I have an "overflow" mount point
[20:52] <extrasolar> have you tried seeing what is being used in htop?
[20:52] <drecute> extrasolar: yes
[20:52] <drecute> extrasolar:  all 8 cores are currently in use
[20:52] <drecute> extrasolar:  java uses between 250 - 350MB of ram
[20:52] <mbrigdan> _cronus_, I was actually just looking at it! I'll see if their website explains how to select even/odd
[20:53] <zykotick9> Dresk|Laptop: mounting stuff won't affect the df of /.  what is taking up the space?  is it still being written to by something?
[20:54] <Dresk|Laptop> zykotick9: I'm not sure, I can't do any apt-get operations because it has no space to even do that
[20:54] <drecute> firefox uses up to 400 - 550mb
[20:54] <drecute> lots of tabs by the way
[20:54] <mbrigdan> _cronus_, Figured it out, thanks!
[20:55] <subcool> can someon help me setup magnet links
[20:55] <zykotick9> Dresk|Laptop: you need to figure out what is using the space (something you should already "know" as well).  how much space is apt using for it's cache ("du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives/" to find out)?
[20:55] <_cronus_> I think that you append even our odd to the range of the cat command. Unfortunately I am not in front of Ubuntu right now to test. I'll take a look at the manual and tell you more.
[20:56] <extrasolar> I'd try upgrading to ubuntu 12.xx
[20:56] <_cronus_> mbrigdan, good news.
[20:57] <extrasolar> subcool read the rules
[20:57] <DrGrov> Anyone who can explain how to check SSH server status on 10.04?
[20:57] <ikonia> check it's status ?
[20:57] <mbrigdan> _cronus_, FWIW, you give the file a handle, then add even or odd to the handle in the cat command (ex: pdftk A=Linear-Algebra.pdf cat Aodd output Linear-Algebra-fixed.pdf)
[20:57] <zykotick9> Dresk|Laptop: suggestion, "cd /" then "du -sh * 2>/dev/null" to get the sizes of all your root directories (might take a while)
[20:57] <subcool> extrasolar, which one are you referring to?
[20:58] <zykotick9> DrGrov: "ps aux | grep -i ssh" should tell you.  look for sshd.
[20:58] <jrib> DrGrov: initctl status ssh
[20:58] <zykotick9> DrGrov: "sudo /etc/init.d/openssh status" might also work
[20:59] <_cronus_> Drgrov: try ssh to the local machine or check if sshd is running with system monitor.
[20:59] <WXZ> is it possible to run a USB version of ubuntu through vbox?
[20:59]  * zykotick9 notes init.d is only applicable to 10.04 on ubuntu!
[20:59] <ikonia> WXZ: a usb version ?
[20:59] <extrasolar> WXZ YEs
[20:59] <WXZ> extrasolar: tutorial?
[20:59] <drecute> extrasolar: i dont think it matters
[20:59] <jrib> zykotick9: even on 10.04 it's the upstart job that gets started and the init.d is only there for use in chroot
[20:59] <subcool> extrasolar, ???
[21:00] <extrasolar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/USB
[21:00] <zykotick9> jrib: you're right!  sorry, my mistake.  lucid did have upstart!
[21:00] <DrGrov> Apparently it is running, how do I turn it off from starting upon boot?
[21:00] <extrasolar> drecute sorry I can't help
[21:00] <snwh> Anyone running Ubuntu on an SSD? or have tips for optimizing Ubuntu for an SSD?
[21:00] <Dresk|Laptop> I found a ginormous 6.3GiB logfile from CUPS, I removed that, rebooting
[21:01] <DrGrov> Do I actually need a firewall while running if I disable SSHD?
[21:02] <zykotick9> DrGrov: if you're behind a home router, if you don't run services - you don't have "much" to worry about.  i don't run firewalls on each computer, just the network.
[21:03] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Yes, I am behind a home router. No, I do not run any services but would like to turn off that SSH daemon though since it probably got stuck running and starting when I boot up.
[21:03] <zykotick9> DrGrov: sorry man, i've forgotten how it worked (already demonstrated publicly above ;)
[21:04] <DrGrov> zykotick9: No worries.
[21:04] <DrGrov> So, how do I turn off SSHD on 10.04? I do not like it to be running upon boot.
[21:04] <DrGrov> The problem is that I can not even remember why I did it in the first place :D
[21:05] <zykotick9> DrGrov: if you install it, it's enabled by default (as it should be ;)
[21:05] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Ok, I leave it be then. No worries
[21:06] <jrib> DrGrov: "touch /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run" will stop it from running at boot (or if you don't want it at all anymore, just uninstall it)
[21:06] <_cronus_> Drgrov: the easiest is to remove the server I think
[21:07] <zykotick9> DrGrov: do you see an openssh file in /etc/init/ ?  (NOT init.d)  with sudo you can rename the script to foo.disabled and reboot and it "should" be gone.
[21:07] <ikonia> follow what jrib said
[21:07] <DrGrov> jrib: That did something at least when I did it as sudo :)
[21:07] <DrGrov> jrib: Thanks :)
[21:09] <DrGrov> Thanks for the help guys
[21:12] <zykotick9> jrib: looks like using sshd_not_to_be_run is "sshd_not_to_be_run is obsolete and only still
[21:12] <zykotick9> supported in order to be nice to people still relying on the old method"
[21:13] <zykotick9> that's from 2005
[21:16] <ubuntUser> :)
[21:16] <ubuntUser> ok back
[21:19] <ubuntUser> i've installed it, worked well but now i noticed that the laptop is running extremly slow
[21:19] <ubuntUser> lots of lag
[21:19] <subcool> can someon help me setup magnet links, i cant find a guide that refers to my setup
[21:19] <Axsuul> Anyone know why if i do... `ssh-add`, it asks me to enter in passphrase twice?
[21:19] <Axsuul> this is the ssh key agent
[21:21] <jrib> zykotick9: I agree it should go away, but there was no nice way to stop services from running on boot back in 10.04 other than what you suggested
[21:21] <zykotick9> jrib: i commented about that in #ubuntu-discuss a little while ago ;)
[21:21] <jrib> zykotick9: I didn't really know it was deprecated in some way, though it still exists in 2012 :P
[21:22] <zykotick9> jrib: i couldn't figure out a way to get ubottu to find debian bugs, but look into debian Bug#338366
[21:23] <zykotick9> jrib: removing the package is the best solution.
[21:24] <ubuntUser> damn it's kinda slow-ish !
[21:24] <atari314> Hello, does anyone know where lightdm set vsync on for the session it starts?
[21:25] <jrib> zykotick9: well, some users may want to not have it run at boot but still manage it manually with upstart.  I thought creation of that file allowed for that, but apparently it doesn't (so you end up with the same situation as renaming the .conf in /etc/init)
[21:25] <jrib> I guess in 10.04, you have to resort to editing the start on values in the scripts themselves
[21:25] <zykotick9> jrib: foo.disabled is almost the only way on ubuntu to manage services?!?
[21:26] <jrib> zykotick9: well later versions of upstart have override files you can use
[21:26] <trism> zykotick9: you can just comment out the 'start on' line in lucid
[21:27] <_cronus_> Jrib: I think update.rc is the official way of managing services under debian.
[21:27] <zykotick9> trism: true as well!  but more of a pita in my opinion, useing the number stuff makes little sence to me.
[21:28] <_cronus_> Jrib: i'm not sure though
[21:28] <trism> zykotick9: agreed
[21:28] <leojrfs> is anyone running ubuntu installed in a usb flash?
[21:29] <ubuntUser> any ideas why after a fresh install ubuntu runs very slow /
[21:29] <ozette> I'm trying to psftp, and mput some folders content. Yesterday it worked but now I get  "open for write: failure" 's for each child folders, these folders have full permission on host and client what am I doing wrong.
[21:29] <ikonia> ubuntUser: your video card is not configured correctly
[21:29] <ubuntUser> that might be it ikonia
[21:30] <ubuntUser> how should i do it right ?
[21:30] <ikonia> all depends on your video card
[21:30] <ubuntUser> i did installed a driver that was recommended in aditional drivers
[21:30] <ubuntUser> 9600m GT
[21:33] <ubuntUser> now i've removed the one that was supplied
[21:34] <id10terror> Anyone have a link for a tutorial on how to install eclipse from command line?
[21:35] <zykotick9> !info eclipse | id10terror
[21:35] <zykotick9> id10terror: "sudo apt-get install eclipse"
[21:35] <ubuntUser> there is driver found after searching for them and it's stated as [recommended]
[21:36] <id10terror> But I want Indigo not Galileo
[21:36] <zykotick9> ? good luck.
[21:36] <tamatar> id10terror, 3.7 is indigo I think
[21:36] <tamatar> do you menan Juno?
[21:36] <id10terror> Juno would be ok, just no galileo, which is the one in the ubuntu repos
[21:38] <tamatar> id10terror, i have juno installed in my home directory
[21:38] <tamatar> i downloaded it from the eclipse site and untarred it
[21:38] <tamatar> that's pretty much it
[21:38] <tamatar> of course you'll need to install a JDK
[21:39] <anternat> how do i fix mbr within windows/ boot repair didnt werk
[21:39] <Sokel> anternat: Fix mbr for what exactly? Windows or grub
[21:39] <teek_> hi, i'm using 12.04 with the side bar where your running programs are normally displayed. I minimized a program, and it just completely disappeared, but it's still running somewhere. how can I reopen/find it?
[21:40] <id10terror> tamatar, what is the command to install the latest JDK?
[21:40] <LibertyTrader>  I have a 32 gig ssd and 500 gig hdd in my laptop. Would it be possible to install my system to the SSD, mount home as the HDD, and use symbolic links to install large programs (steam) on the HDD?
[21:41] <Daekdroom> LibertyTrader, yes, yes, and I'm not sure.
[21:41] <teek_> alt+tab isn't working, also
[21:41] <cautiongamer> How bad is it that i just did "sudo chmod 777 -R /"
[21:41] <arno__> mam problem
[21:41] <zykotick9> LibertyTrader: moving program install directories is REALLY hard to do.  all the "os" should be able to fit on your 32GB ssd.  and just use your hd for /home.
[21:41] <tamatar> id10terror, unfortunately due to oracle's distribution policies, sunjdk is no longer available from the official repos. However, you can follow the instructions here: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[21:42] <tamatar> but i couldn't find a PPA for the latest eclipse
[21:42] <arno__> prosze o pomoc z systemem
[21:42] <LibertyTrader> zykotic9: So It will be very tough to have multiple games :/
[21:42] <teek_> okay could someone tell me how to at least kill the program if I can't find it?
[21:42] <tamatar> but since it's pretty much self contained, you can unzip it anywhere and it works
[21:42] <zykotick9> !tab > LibertyTrader
[21:42] <arno__> regreg
[21:43] <zykotick9> LibertyTrader: games can cause an issue with 32GB, my / was often much bigger then that.
[21:43] <id10terror> Damn you Larry Ellison!
[21:43] <arno__> ludzie pomożecie mi?
[21:43] <Troy^> LibertyTrader: have the released steam for linux yet?
[21:43] <tamatar> id10terror, my thoughts exactly ;). anyway, i'm off to bed, good luck!
[21:44] <OerHeks> !pl | arno__
[21:44] <LibertyTrader> zykotick9, this laptop came with a wierd cache raid
[21:44] <LibertyTrader> where the ssd would act like a cache for the 500 gb hard drive
[21:44] <ubuntu8> hello all, i have one problem, on this pc are installed Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex with Gnome 2.24.1, now when i try to update or install by Synaptic it's fail because i belive its all offline how to risolve this? I do not want to update to another Ubuntu because here everything is working, driver etc
[21:44] <id10terror> thanks tamatar
[21:44] <LibertyTrader> but it only seems supported in windoze
[21:44] <zykotick9> of course... ;)
[21:44] <arno__> jak ktoś nie zna języka angielskiego to co wtedy??
[21:45] <karamel4e__> Hello, is it a good idea to run a ddrescue to make an image of a hdd with 64 bad sector so I can recover some files?
[21:46] <Troy^> is there any decent games for ubuntu? ones that are actually interesting
[21:46] <Sebastien> how would one fix this
[21:46] <Sebastien> root@irczone:~# su - eggy
[21:46] <Sebastien> Cannot execute /bin/bash : No such file or directory
[21:47] <Troy^> also is there any newer fps games for linux
[21:47] <Sebastien> i have to use su -s /bin/bash -l user and i find it annoying.
[21:47] <ubuntu8> suppose to update ubuntu from here, retains all current settings drivers included?
[21:47] <Phiscribe> Troy^ short answer, no best stuff is commercial.  steam is on its way i hear tale
[21:48]  * zykotick9 points out Sebastien is root with a # prompt
[21:48] <nerdbromancer>  Troy^: steam beta should be out soon, valve is trying to put out l4d2 this year but I dont know about other games
[21:48] <Troy^> nerdbromancer: yea i have l4d2 in windows
[21:49] <anternat> Sokel i was dual booting but i had screwed my grub\ however my files remain still \ had to reinstall xp to another poartition
[21:49] <Sebastien> zykotick9 points out Sebastien is root with a # prompt
[21:49] <Sebastien> meaning?
[21:49] <ubuntUser> thanks for the tip ikonia
[21:50] <ubuntUser> i installed the recommended driver and it's a bit better now
[21:50] <ubuntUser> :)
[21:50] <ubuntu8> can someone help me..
[21:50] <Troy^> Amnesia game looks intense
[21:50] <nydel> hello ubuntu commons
[21:52] <Sebastien> zykotick9 ??
[21:52] <dr_willis> Sebastien:  su -    i belive means 'switchj to root'
[21:52] <zykotick9> dr_willis: the trailing - means "fake a login"
[21:53] <_cronus_> Sebastien: does "sudo -i -u eggy" work?
[21:53] <nydel> ubuntu8: i can try to help you
[21:53] <ubuntu8> on this pc are installed Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex with Gnome 2.24.1,  when i try to update or install by Synaptic it's fail because i belive its all offline how to risolve this?
[21:53] <dr_willis> When - is used, it must be specified as
[21:53] <dr_willis>            the last su option
[21:53] <Sebastien> root@irczone:~# sudo -i -u eggy
[21:53] <Sebastien> sudo: shell: command not found
[21:53] <Sebastien> i don't use sudo
[21:53] <dr_willis> checking man su ;)
[21:53] <zykotick9> dr_willis: "trailing"
[21:53] <Sebastien> i log on root then i SU - user  when needed.
[21:53] <nydel> ubuntu8: you believe it's all offline -- what do you mean? are you offline?
[21:54] <dr_willis> su - username      works here.  su has weird syntax it seems. :)
[21:55] <OerHeks> ubuntu8 8.10 is EOL, no longer supported. please upgrade
[21:55] <zykotick9> dr_willis: ;)
[21:55] <_cronus_> Sebastien: what certain of Ubuntu are you using? Sudo should be installed by default.
[21:55] <ubuntu8> nydel no
[21:55] <OerHeks> !intrepid
[21:55] <dr_willis> ubuntu8:  then you are on your own basically...
[21:55] <nydel> ubuntu8: are you on that system right now?
[21:56] <zykotick9> ubuntu still in brown ;)
[21:56] <dr_willis> ubuntu8:  the old servers get moved to an archive server. so if you want to keep installing stuff. you need to change your sources.list
[21:56] <Sebastien> _cronus_ not sure
[21:56] <dr_willis> !eol
[21:56] <nydel> ubuntu8: you're technically on your own, we don't support that release. but i am happy to help you unofficially.
[21:56] <ubuntu8> if i upgrade loose my driver ?
[21:56] <dr_willis> ubuntu8:  we have no idea..
[21:57] <dr_willis> most newer releases i find work better with any problem hardware i had in the past.
[21:57] <dr_willis> for a release that old.. a clean install may be a MUCH better idea
[21:57] <nydel> dr_willis: was there ubuntu one or any other backup type utility in 8.10?
[21:58] <dr_willis> nydel:  no idea.. that was quite some time ago
[21:58] <nydel> dr_willis: i think ubuntu8 will need to upgrade, we should help him to make that process as painless as possible.
[21:58] <Norrin> just ran apt-get install apache2
[21:58] <Norrin> why it is listening as root by default?
[21:58] <Norrin> # ps -ef|grep -i apache
[21:58] <Norrin> root      7457     1  0 21:57 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
[21:58] <Norrin> www-data  7459  7457  0 21:57 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
[21:58] <FloodBot1> Norrin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:58] <ubuntu8> which version I have to upgrade?
[21:58] <dr_willis> most painless would be a clean install   to upgrade to  12.10 may be quite a challange
[21:58] <OerHeks> Ubuntu One has a client application that runs on Ubuntu 9.04 and later ...
[21:59] <nydel> dr_willis: okay, that sounds right to me. so we'll need him to back up everything he'll lose
[21:59] <dr_willis> You would have to upgrade to the  closest LTS then go LTS -> LTS to get to 12.04
[21:59] <dr_willis> and Hope it works. ;)
[21:59] <nydel> ubuntu8: what "driver" are you worried about losing?
[22:00] <ubuntu8> all :D i try on this pc to run an lastest ubuntu usb live
[22:00] <ubuntu8> but not run
[22:01] <ubuntu8> this version run very well
[22:01] <dr_willis> details would be more helpfull.
[22:01] <nydel> ubuntu8: it's extremely outdated. i think you will be pleasantly surprised by precise (12.04)'s automatic hardware support, don't you think, dr_willis ?
[22:02] <sliddjur> is the settings of /etc/login.defs loaded every time and for every user logging in?
[22:02] <ubuntu8> there is a way to update to this version so that I keep the current settings?
[22:03] <dr_willis> ubuntu8:  yes.. and that updateing may take a few hours..
[22:03] <dr_willis> ubuntu8:  and it may not work totally, or may have other issues
[22:03] <nydel> ubuntu8: i'm totally stabbing in the dark, but try sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install; sudo apt-get upgrade.
[22:03] <ubuntu8> sudo apt-get not work
[22:03] <dr_willis> and if the servers have been moved to the archive servers for that release. then you will need to 'fix' your sources.list first
[22:03] <_cronus_> Sebastien: you could try to edit /etc/passwd to make sure the login shell is properly set
[22:03] <dr_willis> which is why apt-get 'not works'
[22:04] <ubuntu8> becouse probably the server
[22:04] <ubuntu8> moving files
[22:04] <nydel> dr_willis: do you think it might be helpful if i upload my sources.list & ubuntu8 tries replacing his with mine?
[22:04] <nydel> dr_willis: or would that just be a fubar
[22:04] <ubuntu8> Err http://security.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/main Packages   404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[22:04] <dr_willis> nydel:  if he were upgradeing, he has to upgrade to the next release and the next.. untill he gets to a LTS version. THEN go LTS to LTS
[22:05] <dr_willis> !eol
[22:05] <nydel> dr_willis: right right of course
[22:05] <dr_willis> ubuntu8:  yes.. all those lines in sources.list need to be changed to point to the right a4rchive server
[22:05] <nydel> ubuntu8: does the machine run only ubuntu, or does it boot anything else such as windows
[22:05] <dr_willis> then you could upgrade/update, or perhaps you could get lucky and just try  the 'release upgrade' tool.
[22:06] <dr_willis> ubuntu8:  in any case. i definatly would backup any imporntant data first.
[22:06] <Gycklarn> Quick question. can 'apt-get -y upgrade' make the computer reboot, if deemed necessary?
[22:06] <ubuntu8> i have dual boot with windows xp
[22:06] <dr_willis> Gycklarn:  not that ive ever noticed or seen
[22:06] <SolarisBoy> Gycklarn: afaik no - it should prompt or notify you to do though
[22:07] <SolarisBoy> IF an applied update requires that
[22:07] <nydel> Gycklarn: may i ask why you're doing that? just curious.
[22:07] <Gycklarn> cron
[22:07] <nydel> ubuntu8: did you use wubi?
[22:07] <ubuntu8> no
[22:07] <blackdevilz> io
[22:09] <tfittsy> can someone help me figure out what is wrong with an init.d script for managing nginx.  it seems like the only thing it does right is start the server.  it gives the wrong status and can't kill the service
[22:09] <WeThePeople> is it possible to hack inti ubuntu from windows
[22:09] <nydel> ubuntu8: if i were you, i would boot into windows & use wubi to make a new possibly temporary install of ubuntu LTS. you can then boot into it & see how it works, plus you can mount your old ubuntu partition & copy over needed files etc. or you could make a ubuntu cd & install on a new partition
[22:09] <ubuntu8> in the uptade manager i find Update to ubuntu 9.04
[22:09] <ubuntu8> but they are supported ?
[22:09] <nydel> ubuntu8: basically, you are going to have more trouble than anyone would hope for if you try to upgrade from so far away.
[22:09] <ubuntu8> Traduci da: italiano Digita il testo o l'indirizzo di un sito web oppure traduci un documento. Annulla tradotto automaticamente da Google italiano inglese spagnolo Alpha or has expired as this
[22:10] <ubuntu8> :)
[22:10] <nydel> ubuntu8: do you have enough hard disk free to create a new partition for a new install of ubuntu?
[22:10] <OerHeks> ubuntu8 see the links given, all info is there.
[22:11] <nydel> ubuntu8: you could start fresh then migrate your personal files & settings over. a lot of things are going to work differently with the newer ubuntu so you are best starting fresh than trying to upgrade.
[22:11] <nydel> does this assessment sparkle with all the girls?
[22:12]  * nydel hopes someone says 'sunshine'
[22:12] <ubuntu8> This version of this hardware is working and fast, I'd hate to use a new version with the live usb I have had many problems, the screen could not be seen for example
[22:13] <ubuntu8> probably keep this, but there is a way to install programs manually? for example Xchat , where i to donwload and install ?
[22:13] <nydel> ubuntu8: new ubuntu has a software center. or you can use apt-get or aptitude.
[22:14] <ubuntu8> most web sites give the comand to shell but not the link to dowload
[22:14] <dr_willis> You would be downloading several 100+mb of data.. more likely a few GB to do that ubuntu8 ..
[22:14] <dr_willis> Its best to just reinstall what you want.
[22:14] <dr_willis> and let the package manager download them as needed
[22:15] <Norrin> how do you set a password so that it cannot be used?
[22:15] <nydel> dr_willis is right. & ubuntu8: unless your hardware is particularly strange or outdated, i think you're going to be surprised at how easy the new ubuntu is to install & configure. find some joy in starting fresh, that's what i'd do.
[22:15] <Norrin> was it passwd \* <name> or something?
[22:16] <dr_willis> Norrin:  you mean disable an account?
[22:16] <daemongpl> add keyboard shortcut to disable laptop touchpad?
[22:16] <nydel> nologin account?
[22:16] <Norrin> dr_willis, not necessary.  just set a invalid password, so login can't be used with that account
[22:16] <duhnnie> hi everyone, i have a problem here with my Ubuntu installation on VirtualBox , when i try to start it it shows a message "the system is running in low graphics mode"
[22:16] <dr_willis> Norrin:  that is disabling the account...
[22:17] <Norrin> well i'd like if i could still su to the user from root
[22:17] <ubuntu8> nydel there is a difference between a live and installation hardware recognition?
[22:17] <dr_willis> since that dosent use the Users password.. that should still work i belive
[22:17] <Norrin> i notice that doesn't ask for a password
[22:17] <Norrin> right.  so that's what i'm trying to do
[22:17] <gandhi> hello guys i want to ask a question is richard stallman married ?
[22:17] <Norrin> passwd -l <user> isn't working
[22:17] <dr_willis> gandhi:  check his wikipedia entry
[22:17] <gandhi> nothing
[22:17] <nydel> ubuntu8: i don't understand the question -- do you, dr_willis?
[22:17] <Norrin> it'd thinking it syntax is bad for some reason
[22:18] <gandhi> can't find anything
[22:18] <W3R> Can someone confirm something for me?
[22:18] <Norrin> gandhi, why?
[22:18] <W3R> Is the section on KVM, DHCP Bridging accurate here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking
[22:18] <Norrin> dr_willis, so how to lock it?
[22:18] <miktor> Hello there. Anyone here that has experience with dwm?
[22:18] <dr_willis> ubuntu8:  on a full install you can install extra drivers. so there is a diferance
[22:19] <Norrin> dr_willis, or diable, as you said
[22:19] <ubuntuunitysucks> isstallman a gay
[22:19] <nydel> Norrin: write a script to set the password to something random, then every time you want to use it, change the password using sudo?
[22:19] <Norrin> nydel, over kil?
[22:19] <ubuntuunitysucks> is richard stallman a gay guys ?
[22:19] <nydel> Norrin: fun?
[22:19] <nydel> ;)
[22:19] <dr_willis> Norrin:  http://askubuntu.com/search?q=disable+user+account  perhaps has exact answqer
[22:20] <ubuntuunitysucks> oioioioi
[22:20] <tuxhat> hey man my ubuntu is all working weird
[22:20] <tuxhat> can u help me i think its the unity shell
[22:20] <tuxhat> its all lagging and stuff
[22:20] <nydel> tuxhat: sudo apt-get install cinnamon
[22:20] <nydel> am i right!? woo!
[22:20] <tuxhat> oh i tried cinnamon same sshit
[22:20] <nydel> ubuntuunitysucks: can i get a hell yeah?
[22:20] <Norrin> nydel, masochist?
[22:20] <tuxhat> its all gnomeshell
[22:20] <dr_willis> nydel:  cinnamon is not in the default repos... and not supported here
[22:20] <tuxhat> is gnomeshell stil in beta testing ?
[22:21] <nydel> nevermind then! do we support gnome?
[22:21] <ash_> hi, i am having a problem with my sound :P whenever i do video call i cannt lisen to any music :O i got to switch to my sound seeting to do that and i cannot video call on skype and lisen to music together somebody help me plz
[22:21] <dr_willis> Unity uses gnome3
[22:21] <tuxhat> ubuntu does support gnome
[22:21] <ubuntu8> well thanks for the help nydel and dr_willis I will try to install tomorrow
[22:21] <tuxhat> no shit right
[22:21] <tuxhat> lulz
[22:21] <tuxhat> why u dont use awesome ?
[22:21] <ubuntu8> :)
[22:21] <tuxhat> or openbox ?
[22:21] <FloodBot1> tuxhat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:21] <W3R> ash_, check skype options for it turning down external audio.
[22:21] <Vincent0ne-> hmmmm
[22:21] <tfittsy> can anyone help me with a shell script for managing nginx as a service?
[22:21] <tuxhat> why unity looks so much like mac os x
[22:21] <nydel> ubuntu8: good luck - i think you should worry less, i think you will have a pleasant time installing the new ubuntu.
[22:21] <tuxhat> can u people be orgninal ?
[22:21] <W3R> tfittsy, install webmin, it will be much easier.
[22:22] <dr_willis> tuxhat:  it dosent.. and please troll elseehere
[22:22] <beastie> unity is lagging for me also tuxhat
[22:22] <tuxhat> what i am not trolling
[22:22] <OerHeks> !ot | tuxhat
[22:22] <tuxhat> this is realistic views
[22:22] <nydel> tuxhat: i can't tell you to do this, but use cinnamon. cinnamon has solved ALL my problems related to unity & gnome.
[22:22] <tuxhat> u people must know the truth
[22:22] <tuxhat> is it
[22:22] <OerHeks> tuxhat, stop it please.
[22:22] <tuxhat> people actually supports ubuntu lulz
[22:22] <nydel> tuxhat: we don't support cinnamon, but i do.
[22:22] <beastie> tuxhat try sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[22:22] <tuxhat> but my system works with make install
[22:22] <Norrin> dr_willis, found it.  thanks
[22:22] <tuxhat> what is apt-get ?
[22:23] <duhnnie> hi everyone, i have a problem here with my Ubuntu installation on VirtualBox , when i try to start it it shows a message "the system is running in low graphics mode"
[22:23] <tuxhat> i dont understand why i have a non linux kernel ?
[22:23] <Troy^> i am a XFCE fanhands down beandog
[22:23] <tuxhat> lulz
[22:23] <dr_willis> duhnnie:  install the guest addations perhaps?
[22:23] <beastie> tuxhat what was ur problem slow performance compiz makin fun of ur desktop
[22:23] <W3R> duhnnie, you need to change the VM options I guess.
[22:23] <beastie> tuxhat i think u should disale compiz
[22:23] <tuxhat> so ur saying in eed gibson computer to run ubuntu ?
[22:23] <beastie> haha
[22:24] <W3R> Take a look in the VM options for the gfx adaptor settings duhnnie
[22:24] <duhnnie> dr_willis: it's already installed, it was working fine, but an hour ago i have to reboot ubuntu and then i got that message
[22:24] <dr_willis> tuxhat:  do you have an actual support question or are you just rambling?
[22:24] <tuxhat> i thought ubuntu was server ready ?
[22:24] <beastie> tuxhat disable compiz
[22:24] <W3R> Ubuntu server is.
[22:24] <tuxhat> have u people heard of bsd ?
[22:24] <duhnnie> W3R: ok, i'll try
[22:24] <Sokel> tuxhat: BSD is terrible.
[22:24] <beastie> what is bsd
[22:24] <tuxhat> why is it terrible ?
[22:24] <dr_willis> !ot
[22:24] <hwkiller-netbook> yes, tuxhat. is it relevant to this channel?
[22:24] <tuxhat> please tell me this
[22:24] <W3R> tuxhat, this is not the correct channel
[22:25] <ubuntu-noob-101-> guys need help.. just installed ubuntu 12.04 update stuck at getting dconf-gsettings-backend.. its only 16 kB?
[22:25] <W3R> move elsewhere to discuss non support things.
[22:25] <tuxhat> u gonna banned me again
[22:25] <beastie> what is bsd tuxhat
[22:25] <ubuntu8> what is the fastest Desktop environment with ubuntu? like Enlightenment for example!
[22:25] <ozette> Can anyone tell me why I get "open for write: failure" errors on child folder upon psftp mput *
[22:25] <hwkiller-netbook> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:25] <tuxhat> remember the first time i made fun of faggotz in here
[22:25] <tuxhat> remember that
[22:25] <Sokel> tuxhat: First off, wrong channel to bring it up. Second off, I feel like having a working OS on the get go with.
[22:25] <beastie> waht is bsd tuxhat
[22:25] <tuxhat> cyberpunkarch
[22:25] <tuxhat> do u remember me
[22:25] <FloodBot1> tuxhat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:25] <tuxhat> i am tuxhat yes
[22:25] <hwkiller-netbook> beastie, not here. go to the offtopic channel
[22:25] <Sokel> beastie: Don't even bother.
[22:25] <beastie> how to go to offtopic am new to this irc
[22:25] <tuxhat> ubuntu suckz
[22:26] <hwkiller-netbook> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:26] <hwkiller-netbook> if you're on xchat, just rightclick on that
[22:26] <tuxhat> no i want to tell u people that ubuntu sucks
[22:26] <ubuntu8> nydel ;P what is the fastest Desktop environment with ubuntu?
[22:26] <beastie> hwo to join this ubuntu offtopic am new to irc man
[22:26] <tuxhat> full of fagz in this community
[22:26] <Sokel> tuxhat: There are plenty of other distros :)
[22:26] <OerHeks> !ops | tuxhat
[22:26] <dr_willis> beastie:  /join #channelname
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> beastie  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:26] <tuxhat> i dont use linux
[22:26] <tuxhat> linux is bloated
[22:26] <Sokel> tuxhat: It's not. Please leave.
[22:26] <beastie> what is linux isnt ubuntu linux
[22:26] <dr_willis> !troll
[22:27] <tuxhat> why i can't come in here point real facts of ubuntu
[22:27] <deadmund> wow
[22:27] <MonkeyDust> Sokel  don't give it attention
[22:27] <randendavis> He's just a troll.
[22:27] <dr_willis> and a poor one at that.
[22:27] <tuxhat> u people must here the real facts so u can improve it ?
[22:27] <tuxhat> no ?
[22:27] <nothingspecial> poor people in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:27] <tuxhat> ditch gnome 3
[22:27] <duhnnie> W3R: i have enabled the 3D aceleration and 128MB for video but it stills show the message
[22:27] <tuxhat> put awesome in ur system
[22:27] <WeThePeople> what does this look like to you guys >>> http://imgh.us/ip.jpg
[22:27] <Sokel> tuxhat: You're not one of them brazilians are you
[22:27] <beastie> tuxhat ubuntu is lsow to boot what to do
[22:27] <ubuntu-noob-101-> guys need help.. just installed ubuntu 12.04 update stuck at getting dconf-gsettings-backend.. its only 16 kB?
[22:27] <tuxhat> no i am canadian we use unix not linux wannabe unix
[22:27] <alpre> duhnnie: when does it show that?
[22:27] <ozette> Can anyone tell me why I get "open for write: failure" errors on child folder upon psftp mput *
[22:28] <duhnnie> when i start ubuntu
[22:28] <W3R> Strange, duhnnie try installing ubuntu vm extensions.
[22:28] <tuxhat> u people every though porting DTrace in ur kernel ?
[22:28] <duhnnie> alpre: when i start ubuntu
[22:28] <weebly> then go to #unix
[22:28] <alpre> duhnnie: that is normal
[22:28] <tuxhat> why
[22:28] <Pricey> Hey tuxhat, can I help? :)
[22:28] <tuxhat> i want to be in here
[22:28] <tuxhat> is that wrong
[22:28] <tuxhat> i am not allowed to be here ?
[22:28] <beastie> why not give freedom to tuxhat let him talk
[22:28] <duhnnie> alpre: no, it was working fine, today early end yesterday
[22:28] <beastie> share his knowledge
[22:28] <W3R> Use the following command to ignore tuxhat /ignore tuxhat!*@*
[22:28] <tuxhat> thanks beastie u see bsd on my side
[22:28] <dr_willis> beastie:  because this is a support channel.
[22:28] <Pricey> tuxhat: This is for Ubuntu support.  Did you try to reinstall them, just run the installer again from terminal.
[22:35] <hwkiller-netbook> xfce is the quickest of the fully featured DE's
[22:36] <W3R> That is if you install xubuntu
[22:36] <hwkiller-netbook> well, enlightenment is quick too, but it's still buggy
[22:36] <W3R> indeed.
[22:36] <dr_willis> lubuntu is very nice. perhaps missing some features people may want. but still useable
[22:36] <alpre> duhnnie: other than that I am really not sure what to do
[22:36] <duhnnie> alpre: i've used the VBOX ISO file,
[22:37] <hwkiller-netbook> does lxde use gtk3?
[22:37] <duhnnie> alpre: i'll try reinstall from terminal, can you guide me please?
[22:37] <alpre> duhnnie: yes, maybe try using it again
[22:37] <alpre> duhnnie: just ask
[22:38] <duhnnie> alpre: ok, it can be private? there are so much messages here
[22:38] <ubuntu8> I used bodhi linux liveusb, and very nice and fast
[22:38] <alpre> duhnnie: better ask here, more people who know stuff :) it is noisy sometimes
[22:38] <ubuntu8> ubuntu and enlightenment like bodhi ?
[22:38] <duhnnie> alpre:
[22:38] <ubuntu-noob-101-> UBUNTU SUCK!
[22:39] <duhnnie> alpre: ok, i have the ISO mounted on ubuntu
[22:39] <ubuntu-noob-101-> everyone READ that? it suck!
[22:39] <Kentos> all i saw was noob
[22:39] <aaas> ENGLISH BAD
[22:39] <Kentos> =P
[22:39] <ubuntu-noob-101-> what ever
[22:39] <ubuntu-noob-101-> it suck!
[22:39] <anubis_> lol
[22:39] <ubuntu-noob-101-> :p
[22:39] <duhnnie> alpre: ok, i logged in from terminal
[22:39] <alpre> duhnnie: cd into /media/cdrom0/ and run 'sh bla-installer-linux.sh
[22:40] <duhnnie> alpre: now, how can I access the image from terminal?
[22:40] <duhnnie> ok
[22:40] <alpre> duhnnie: sorry run sudo sh of course
[22:40] <ubuntu-noob-101-> just kidding.. help me please?
[22:40] <duhnnie> alpre: ok, thanks
[22:41] <ChogyDan> how do I turn pidgin off?
[22:41] <dr_willis> sudo sh  - is not advised... sudo -s or sudo -i   is perfered
[22:41] <W3R> Turn pidgin off?
[22:41] <ubuntu-noob-101-> ChogyDan: Uninstall Ubuntu
[22:41] <W3R> Open the menu, exit.
[22:41] <Kentos> whats the basic hardware list for making a decent low-mid traffick website. Would one server be enough(without media streaming or down/uploads) ?
[22:42] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Ctrl+Alt+F1. > sudo reboot
[22:42] <Fuchs> ubuntu-noob-101-: please don't do that in here, thanks.
[22:42] <funky1> ChogyDan: open terminal and "killall pidgin"
[22:42] <W3R> Hardware is rarely the issue Kentos
[22:42] <ChogyDan> ive been right clicking in the unity menu, and clicking quit, it keeps logging me back in
[22:42] <W3R> Network is.
[22:42] <duhnnie> alpre: i'm trying access /media/VBOXADDITIONS_XXXXX but it shows mw "Permiso Denegado" (Spanish Version), i think it means "Access denied"
[22:42] <Kentos> network speed?
[22:42] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Fuchs: why is it ubuntu update stuck at 16 kB of file?
[22:42] <W3R> How fast your network connection is Kentos
[22:43] <Fuchs> ubuntu-noob-101-: hard to say, maybe the remoted disconnected or something else happened, have you checked the log files?
[22:43] <Kentos> 30/4 currently
[22:43] <W3R> That will likely be saturated far before the server is.
[22:43] <Kentos> down/up
[22:43] <zeeeero> sup peoples.
[22:43] <W3R> A cheap celeron would be more than sufficient.
[22:43] <alpre> duhnnie: what command did you use to access?
[22:43] <W3R> A routers could probably manage Kentos
[22:43] <ChogyDan> I has no close option in pidgin!
[22:43] <W3R> router*
[22:43] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Fuchs: yes... it says it was moved to something.. it is actually dconf-gsettings-backend
[22:43] <funky1> ChogyDan: open terminal and "killall pidgin"
[22:43] <W3R> Yup that will work
[22:44] <dr_willis> ChogyDan:  why are you needing to close pidgin?
[22:44] <Phiscribe> ubuntu-noob-101- out of disk space?open dialoag behind the one your are looking at waiting on input? another program open trying to do updates?
[22:44] <ChogyDan> funky1: I would like the GUI method
[22:44] <ubuntu-noob-101-> space? its only 16kB
[22:44] <Kentos> interesting, it won't run into many problems say with proccessing the read files or anything? Im using a really old computer
[22:44] <duhnnie> alpre: i've used "cd /media" then "cd VBOXADDITIONS_4.1.6_74713"
[22:44] <funky1> ChogyDan: what happens when you right click icon and use "quit"?
[22:44] <Phiscribe> ubuntu-noob-101- just guessing. what about open dialog waiting on input? alt tab around
[22:45] <Kentos> its got a dual core Xeon in it, which to me sounds good for what i paid for the whole thing
[22:45] <alpre> duhnnie: does 'ls /media/cdrom0/' show something?
[22:45] <ChogyDan> dr_willis: no other reason than I want to.  The problem is that it keeps logging back on.  I think it is restarting based on my net connection, which is flacky
[22:45] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Phiscribe: I am not following u..
[22:45] <ChogyDan> funky1: ^
[22:45] <W3R> ChogyDan, my pidgin has the quit option under buddies
[22:45] <alpre> duhnnie: there should be an installer .sh file for linux in there
[22:45] <funky1> ChogyDan: what does that mean?
[22:45] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Phiscribe: Fresh install Ubuntu 12.04, Update, and im stuck only on this dconf-gsettings-backend
[22:46] <duhnnie> alpre:  it shows: "No existe el archivo o el direcotrio" = "no such file or direcotry"
[22:46] <funky1> ChogyDan: what vs of pidgin?
[22:46] <alpre> duhnnie: then you didn't mount it in /media/cdrom0/
[22:46] <zeeeero> having some issues here setting permissions of a home ubuntu core server even as owner of all files withen the target dir tree. can anyone one maybe lend a hand.
[22:46] <alch> hi, can someone help me, i was using a ubuntu live usb for some lab stuff, but it has stopped booting up, it locks on "[ somenumber] Btrfs loaded"
[22:46] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Fuchs: any idea?
[22:46] <alpre> duhnnie: do 'sudo mount /media/cdrom'
[22:46] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Phiscribe: any idea?
[22:47] <ChogyDan> funky1: omg, 12.04, but I think this is an issue with unity
[22:47] <duhnnie> alpre: i've just used the virtual box menu to mount the iso
[22:47] <dr_willis> ChogyDan:  i just clicked the close button.. and it closed.....
[22:47] <funky1> do you have the pidgin icon in the taskbar?
[22:47] <funky1> i have also piding 12.04
[22:47] <alpre> duhnnie: that only put the cd into the virtual drive, you need to mount manually now.
[22:47] <dr_willis> not any more ... no icon
[22:47] <funky1> i mean pidgin in 12.04
[22:48] <funky1> when i right click the icon, i can just select quit
[22:48] <duhnnie> alpre: ok, what command i need to run to mount it?
[22:48] <alpre> duhnnie: do 'sudo mount /media/cdrom'
[22:48] <ubuntu-noob-101-> how do we remove dconf-gsettings-backend from update pool?
[22:49] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Get:6 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main dconf-gsettings-backend amd64 0.12.0-0ubuntu1.1 [16.1 kB] 0% [6 dconf-gsettings-backend 3,845 B/16.1 kB 24%]
[22:50] <ubuntu-noob-101-> this is such a bad experience trying out ubuntu..
[22:50] <Phiscribe> ubuntu-noob-101- what im asking you to check is if a window is up, that is behind another, that is sitting there waiting on your input to continue the update.
[22:50] <duhnnie> alpre: it fails, it shows: "no se puede encontrar /media/cdrom en etc/fstab o etc/mtab"
[22:50] <nca_> hi all, quick question. I have a dual-port e1000 card in my desktop. Is there a straight-forward way to bond the interfaces through Network Manager? Googling just results in server configs (which just give issues with NM still running)
[22:50] <duhnnie> alpre: it fails, it shows: "no se puede encontrar /media/cdrom en etc/fstab o etc/mtab" = "it can't be found ..."
[22:51] <Kentos> im a little dissapointed by my service around here for internet. For a website its mostly upload if im not mistaken, and the highest package i can get is 5Mbit up speed.
[22:51] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Phiscribe: Yes its waiting for input "cursor blink" u mean?
[22:51] <alpre> duhnnie: try 'sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom'
[22:51] <ubuntu-noob-101-> i did was sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:52] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Phiscribe: and im stuck on that dconf....
[22:52] <W3R> Well Kentos how many people are you expecting?
[22:52] <Phiscribe> ubuntu-noob-101- try dragging the window to the left or right or up or down and see if ANOTHER window is behind it waiting on you to answer a config question
[22:52] <Phiscribe> if its not that, i dunno
[22:53] <duhnnie> alpre: it shows "el punto de montaje  /media/cdrom no existe" = "doesn't exist"
[22:53] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Phiscribe: Nope nothing..
[22:53] <alpre> duhnnie: ok, weird, the what is in /media? ls /media
[22:53] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Phiscribe: Its just this >> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main dconf-gsettings-backend amd64 0.12.0-0ubuntu1.1 [16.1 kB] 0% [1 dconf-gsettings-backend 3,845 B/16.1 kB 24%]
[22:53] <skrocco> Hello all
[22:54] <duhnnie> ls /media
[22:54] <Kentos> could someone give me some info on the differences here in the US on what ISPs call a bussiness internet connection and a residential?
[22:54] <alpre> duhnnie: 'sudo mkdir /media/cdrom' if it doesn't exist, then try mounting sr0 again
[22:54] <zeeeero> attemp proceed like this Terminal/gksudo nautilus/navigated to /media/trunk (folder containing storage partition from windows set up as nas with trunk as network storage)/right clicked (gksudoed) naut window of "trunk"/ attemped to change permission of "trunk"/ owner permission successful but group and other revert back to no access.
[22:54] <duhnnie> alpre: in /media is VBOXADDITIONS_4.1.6_74713
[22:55] <zeeeero> any ideas
[22:55] <W3R> Kentos, you are better asking the businesses about that than here.
[22:55] <Kentos> yeah, im just wondering if theres any real difference
[22:55] <W3R> Business connections tend to be higher through put
[22:55] <W3R> i.e. faster
[22:55] <W3R> with no bandwidth limit
[22:55] <ubuntu-noob-101-> SO?
[22:55] <W3R> equal down and upload speed.
[22:55] <alpre> duhnnie: just try what I wrote then
[22:56] <Kentos> yeah, i was looking at the DSL companies, but...its the exact same speeds as their residential connections
[22:56] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Phiscribe: is there any way i can proceed update?
[22:56] <Phiscribe> if its stuck its stuck
[22:56] <duhnnie> alpre: i tried, i tried with both: VBOXADDITIONS... and cdrom and cdrom0
[22:56] <Kentos> bandwidth caps are something i would like the option of getting rid of lol
[22:57] <duhnnie> alpre: i'll have to reinstall ubuntu
[22:57] <alpre> duhnnie: 'sudo mkdir /media/cdrom' if it doesn't exist
[22:57] <alch> hey how i can get to the prompt in a live install? it goes right for unity(which seems to not work right now)
[22:57] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Ok, where do i change plist ?
[22:57] <duhnnie> alpre: dorectory created
[22:58] <zeeeero> attemp proceed like this Terminal/gksudo nautilus/navigated to /media/trunk (folder containing storage partition from windows set up as nas with trunk as network storage)/right clicked (gksudoed) naut window of "trunk"/ attemped to change permission of "trunk"/ owner permission successful but group and other revert back to no access.
[22:58] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Phiscribe: this file is actually moved to: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/
[22:58] <alpre> duhnnie: try 'sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom', you can create another directory and use that too instead
[22:58] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Phiscribe: where do i change this plists to correct this ?
[22:59] <ubuntu-noob-101-> anyone?
[22:59] <Kentos> i suppose the service here isnt great for a server application, best upload speeds are the same residentially and for bussiness at a max of 5Mbit... kinda strange with down speeds are offered up to 100Mbit
[22:59] <ubuntu-noob-101-> where do i change this plists to correct this ?
[22:59] <duhnnie> alpre: mount as read only
[22:59] <duhnnie> alpre: mounted as read only (i guess)
[23:00] <alpre> duhnnie: ok, then cd /media/cdrom
[23:00] <duhnnie> alpre: ok, i'm inside cdrom
[23:01] <zeeeero> attemp proceed like this Terminal/gksudo nautilus/navigated to /media/trunk (folder containing storage partition from windows set up as nas with trunk as network storage)/right clicked (gksudoed) naut window of "trunk"/ attemped to change permission of "trunk"/ owner permission successful but group and other revert back to no access.
[23:01] <alpre> duhnnie: OK look how the installers inside are named
[23:02] <alpre> duhnnie: there should be a file called ...Linuxinstaller.sh not sure exactly
[23:02] <duhnnie> alpre: the "ls" command shows some elements like runasroot.sh, VBoxLinuxAdditions.run autorun.sh and some .exe ans a .pkg
[23:03] <ubuntu-noob-101-> THIS IS SUCK..
[23:03] <duhnnie> alpre: also shows 2 dirs: 32bit and 64bit
[23:03] <dr_willis> ubuntu-noob-101-:  yes  you do indeed.
[23:03] <alpre> duhnnie: VBoxLinuxAdditions.run it is. I did sudo sh 'VBoxLinuxAdditions.run'. Here it was mentioned that instead you should use sudo -i or sudo -s, but I don't know how that works
[23:04] <ubuntu-noob-101-> dr_willis: ya right.. you do as well
[23:04] <duhnnie> alpre: ok, i'll try
[23:04] <ubuntu-noob-101-> username states that i am a noob so?
[23:05] <ubuntu-noob-101-> =[
[23:05] <ubuntu-noob-101-> =)
[23:05] <ubuntu-noob-101-> =P
[23:05] <ikonia> stop that
[23:05] <ubuntu-noob-101-> ikonia: ok
[23:05] <ikonia> thank you
[23:05] <dr_willis> being annoying in the channel tends to get you ignored. restate the support question in a clear concise way.
[23:05] <delinquentme> How do I search recursively through my file system to file a file called "mysqld.sock"
[23:05] <delinquentme> ?
[23:05] <ikonia> delinquentme: it's in /tmp
[23:06] <ikonia> however find / -name mysqld.sock -print would work
[23:06] <ubuntu-noob-101-> dr_willis: its been almost.. but nothing seems to float
[23:06] <dr_willis> delinquentme:  the locate command, is very handy for finding files. but a .sock file is a socket file. whya re you needing it?
[23:06] <delinquentme> ikonia, no such luck
[23:06] <dr_willis> so much for clear and concise.
[23:06] <ikonia> I'm guessing an application is complainin it can't connect to mysql
[23:06] <ikonia> the socket file is missing because mysql isn't running
[23:06] <zeeeero> attemp proceed like this Terminal/gksudo nautilus/navigated to /media/trunk (folder containing storage partition from windows set up as nas with trunk as network storage)/right clicked (gksudoed) naut window of "trunk"/ attemped to change permission of "trunk"/ owner permission successful but group and other revert back to no access.
[23:06] <ikonia> (normally)
[23:06] <ubuntu-noob-101-> does anyone here from ubuntu support.. PLEASE update sources path..
[23:07] <funky1> delinquentme: go to / and run "sudo find . | egrep mysqld.sock"
[23:07] <delinquentme> ikonia, so " sudo start mysql " returns mysql start/running, process 9839
[23:07] <alch> i think my live usb tha i need for some lab work has been corrupted after forced shutdown, anything i can do to save it?
[23:07] <ikonia> delinquentme: can you connect with mysql client ?
[23:07] <delinquentme> nope
[23:07] <wilee-nilee> alch, this usb have a persistance?
[23:07] <ikonia> delinquentme: what's the error ?
[23:07] <dr_willis> alch:  you could try to fsck its casper-rw file.. be best to  copy that file somewhere else, then try fscking it. then mounting it.
[23:07] <alch> yep
[23:08] <Marvin827> I think you ought to know, frigg, that I'm feeling very depressed.
[23:08] <Marvin827> Marvin827, you are just one person too many.
[23:08] <ubuntu-noob-101-> damn this.. :D
[23:08] <Marvin827> I think you ought to know, ubuntu-noob-101-, that I'm feeling very depressed.
[23:08] <duhnnie> alpre: i've discovered something
[23:08] <Marvin827> I think you ought to know, duhnnie, that I'm feeling very depressed.
[23:08] <delinquentme> what the shit.
[23:08] <Marvin827> I think you ought to know, delinquentme, that I'm feeling very depressed.
[23:08] <delinquentme> now it connects
[23:08] <Marvin827> I think you ought to know, delinquentme, that I'm feeling very depressed.
[23:08] <W3R> marvin please go elsewhere/
[23:08] <Marvin827> I think you ought to know, W3R, that I'm feeling very depressed.
[23:08] <ikonia> delinquentme: please drop the language
[23:08] <Marvin827> I think you ought to know, ikonia, that I'm feeling very depressed.
[23:08] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Marvin827: no worries.. its me who is depressed not u
[23:08] <FloodBot1> Marvin827: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:08] <Marvin827> I think you ought to know, ubuntu-noob-101-, that I'm feeling very depressed.
[23:08] <Marvin827> I think you ought to know, FloodBot1, that I'm feeling very depressed.
[23:08] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Marvin827: no worries.. its me who is depressed not u
[23:09] <delinquentme> OK. sooo I dont even know what I did.
[23:09] <ikonia> delinquentme: probably started mysql
[23:09] <zeeeero> attemp proceed like this Terminal/gksudo nautilus/navigated to /media/trunk (folder containing storage partition from windows set up as nas with trunk as network storage)/right clicked (gksudoed) naut window of "trunk"/ attemped to change permission of "trunk"/ owner permission successful but group and other revert back to no access.
[23:09] <delinquentme> idk
[23:09] <duhnnie> alpre: maybe thats the original problem: i don't have enough space on my virtual disk
[23:09] <delinquentme> this is the worst kind of solution lol
[23:09] <delinquentme> because I learned nada
[23:09] <delinquentme> ikonia, how do you personally check the status of mysql being on or off?
[23:09] <alpre> duhnnie: maybe, the xcursor was not normal either
[23:09] <ikonia> delinquentme: ps -ef | grep mysqld
[23:09] <dr_willis> delinquentme:  the service command is handy for that
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> alch, I would answer the error question, and realise that a persistent file fills up and is difficult to clean, and will stop it from running when filled up.
[23:10] <delinquentme> sudo netstat -tap | grep mysql ... ps aux | grep mysql ... service mysql status
[23:10] <duhnnie> alpre: i remember, this morning ubuntu notified me about it
[23:10] <delinquentme> I've aquired a few today
[23:10] <ikonia> delinquentme: the service command as dr_willis said is valid, but it reads a pid file which doesn't always confirm mysqld is running
[23:10] <alpre> duhnnie: when you install ubuntu, don't install the guest addiditions from the menu, you usually don't need it and ubuntu has them built in, just a bit older
[23:10] <alch> well i dint changed anything in the last boot
[23:11] <duhnnie> alpre: ok, thanks
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> !who > alch
[23:11] <alpre> duhnnie: they are in ubuntu menu, system settings third party drivers or something, no need for the iso. np
[23:11] <duhnnie> alpre: well i'll try to resolve this by myself, i think that the problem is about disk space
[23:11] <alch> ubottu: ic sorrry
[23:11] <alpre> duhnnie: yes, could work
[23:12] <alpre> gl
[23:12] <W3R> Does anyone know if the DHCP section in KVM is accurate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking
[23:12] <W3R> For bridged connections.
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> alch, I'm not saying the persistent is filed, but ut gets filled with error messages and just general use scripts as well as ading and removing apps and stuff.
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> s/it/filled/adding
[23:13] <alch> wilee-nilee: ic
[23:14] <CiscoNinja> hello folks
[23:14] <delinquentme> sudo find . | egrep mysqld.sock    << this finds no files .. however mysql is running
[23:14] <delinquentme> Le GRRRR
[23:14] <zeeeero> attemp proceed like this Terminal/gksudo nautilus/navigated to /media/trunk (folder containing storage partition from windows set up as nas with trunk as network storage)/right clicked (gksudoed) naut window of "trunk"/ attemped to change permission of "trunk"/ owner permission successful but group and other revert back to no access.
[23:15] <ikonia> delinquentme: look in my.cnf to see where your socket file hsould be
[23:15] <ikonia> delinquentme: /tmp /var/lib/mysql for example
[23:17] <ubuntu-noob-101-> If you want to get things done, do it your self.. thanks anyway
[23:18] <CiscoNinja> the wife likes to watch soap opera like from youtube and other websites. she is bugging me to stream it to our bedroom TV. my options are ROCKU box and xbox360 . any luck for me or should i stop being lazy and hook up vga to the tv each time she want to watch 'em?
[23:19] <Kentos> do you not have multiple connections for your streaming device?
[23:20] <Kentos> like multiple monitor type of deal
[23:20] <zeeeero> attemp proceed like this Terminal/gksudo nautilus/navigated to /media/trunk (folder containing storage partition from windows set up as nas with trunk as network storage)/right clicked (gksudoed) naut window of "trunk"/ attemped to change permission of "trunk"/ owner permission successful but group and other revert back to no access.
[23:20] <delinquentme> /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock ikonia
[23:20] <delinquentme> OHHH
[23:20] <CiscoNinja> Kentos, am not sure i understand
[23:20] <delinquentme> grep didn't have search access to that dir
[23:21] <Kentos> where are you streaming from currently?
[23:21] <Kentos> what do you connect with the VGA to the TV
[23:21] <CiscoNinja> Kentos, i don't want to connect physically to the tv
[23:22] <pragmaticenigma> Anybody have a good resource for configuring a Nvidia GeForce 6200 card? When ever I am in X, the system hangs and the screen often draws a corrupted image
[23:22] <Kentos> ok, you have a wireless connection from your tv or something? there will have to be some physical connection to it for something, unless its a smart TV with youtube apps and webbrowseing
[23:23] <CiscoNinja> Kentos, xbox360 -> tv "netflix" or Rocku ->tv "netflix+ other channels"
[23:23] <zeeeero> for free or with a budget because I have seen a bunch of ways to handle your situation
[23:23] <RPG-Master> Is their a way to install Ubuntu to an extra internal hard drive *from* a currently running Ubuntu on another hard drive in the computer?
[23:23] <CiscoNinja> Kentos, no smart tv
[23:23] <RPG-Master> *in the same computer
[23:24] <zeeeero> for about 150$ you could build an itx to fi5t on the back of your tv(s)
[23:24] <Kentos> yeah, I'm not quite sure what your after then, zeeero seems to be more knowledgeable
[23:24] <pragmaticenigma> RPG-Master: You could use something like CloneZilla to image the main drive to the second drive.  You would have an exact copy for each harddrive
[23:25] <CiscoNinja> what is itx zeeeero ?
[23:25] <RPG-Master> pragmaticenigma: Is that ok if the "from" hard drive has bad sectors, which is why I'm doing this?
[23:25]  * CiscoNinja google to the rescue
[23:25] <zeeeero> also for $40-$70 you can buy one of many streaming box tops that support a wide variety of streamcast including your pc
[23:26] <pragmaticenigma> RPG-Master: It is possible that the corrupted sectors may cause difficulty, however, there is no harm in trying
[23:26] <CiscoNinja> zeeeero, ahhhh itx mobo
[23:26] <zeeeero> VERY low power mobo thats around 8"x8"
[23:27] <RPG-Master> pragmaticenigma: If I have so, I will, but if I can just install Ubuntu to the second hard drive with this current Ubuntu, I'd prefer it.
[23:27] <CiscoNinja> zeeeero, but then i will need a hdd and other stuff right
[23:27] <Kentos> would that allow him to then stream data wirelessly to his TV?
[23:27] <pragmaticenigma> RPG-Master: There is no way to "install" using one harddisk to another
[23:28] <delinquentme> http://pastie.org/4698752 ikonia does this mean mysql is running or not?
[23:28] <zeeeero> something that only did streaming could run from a 4gb usb
[23:28] <CiscoNinja> zeeeero do you mind to take this to pm....i don't want to piss ops since this is heading away from ubuntu
[23:28] <RPG-Master> pragmaticenigma: Eh, ok. I admit defeat. :/
[23:28] <_Marcus> What is the package name for CGI-bin?
[23:29] <RPG-Master> pragmaticenigma: Thanks for the help.
[23:29] <pragmaticenigma> _Marcus: There is no package CGI-BIN... that is just a folder used by apache to host server executed scripts
[23:29] <_Marcus> pragmaticenigma: So it's part of Apache?
[23:29] <zeeeero> yeah sure. dont know why it matter though I have been asking for a seemingly simple permissions queastion for about 45 mins now and no one here knows dick.
[23:29] <pragmaticenigma> _Marcus: It's a directory configured by Apache to store executable scripts
[23:30] <CiscoNinja> zeeeero, they make 32gb usb now! that is not the issue but you will still need keyboard and mouse
[23:30] <_Marcus> zeeeero: If it's simple, why can't you answer it yourself? No need to be rude to people.
[23:30] <zeeeero> synergy or vnc
[23:30] <zeeeero> ...
[23:30] <dr_willis> synergy and vnc have differnet tasks
[23:31] <CiscoNinja> dr_willis, i like nxclient
[23:32] <CiscoNinja> zeeeero, how can i stream youtube to my tv using uvuntu and xbox360 or rocku /
[23:32] <zeeeero> it seems simple but I dont know enough console jargon to google it properly cuz I have tried. all I wanted someone to do is give me a few good search terms to point me in the right direction. I intended to DO it my self. I wanted someone else to show me what I was doing wrong so I COULD do it me self cuz Im at a wall right now
[23:33] <dr_willis> zeeeero:  for what?
[23:33] <zeeeero> attemp proceed like this Terminal/gksudo nautilus/navigated to /media/trunk (folder containing storage partition from windows set up as nas with trunk as network storage)/right clicked (gksudoed) naut window of "trunk"/ attemped to change permission of "trunk"/ owner permission successful but group and other revert back to no access.
[23:33] <_Marcus> zeeeero: What exactly is the problem that you are having?
[23:34] <dr_willis> you do NOT chown/chmod a ntfs/vfat.. you set its permissions/owner at Mount time
[23:34] <zeeeero> I cant changed the permission to a folder of files I own
[23:34] <dr_willis> zeeeero:  is it on a ntfs/vfat/network share?
[23:34] <_Marcus> zeeeero: Try changing it as root?
[23:35] <zeeeero> ntfs on the same drive as the ubuntu server install
[23:35] <dr_willis> you do NOT chown/chmod a ntfs/vfat.. you set its permissions/owner at Mount time
[23:35] <zeeeero> seperate partitions
[23:35] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[23:36] <zeeeero> so I am to change the mount. think you could kindly throw a few search terms for or you think "drive mount options" would be enough
[23:37] <Russianeer> hi
[23:37] <zeeeero> drive mount options 12.04
[23:37] <CiscoNinja> with all do respect to everyone , in the past dr_willis have helped me a lot ...this dude knows his sh*t. i would listen to him @ zeeeero
[23:38] <zeeeero> I am listening he is helping.
[23:39] <snwh> Anyone running Ubuntu on an SSD?
[23:40] <zeeeero> or was but telling me there is a different ownership process was a lot of help. Fo reals. thanks.
[23:42] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[23:42] <dr_willis> is what hanelds the mounting of ntfs... ....
[23:43] <joofsh> why doesn't % tar zxvf jre-7u7linux-i586.tar.gz work?  I get a bash: fg: %: no such job error
[23:44] <Noobuntu> hello
[23:44] <Kentos> I wasn't aware you could mount ntfs partitions to ubuntu
[23:44] <dr_willis> Kentos:  have been able to for years.. and years
[23:44] <Noobuntu> my synaptiks touchpad driver crashes on every reebot
[23:44] <Noobuntu> any idea guys?
[23:45] <dr_willis> for a long time it was read only... but now a days.. ntfs-3g works well
[23:45] <Kentos> ahhh
[23:45] <dr_willis> joofsh:  you are entering a % ? thats not part of the command...
[23:45] <Kentos> that work well when networking with windows clients?
[23:45] <dr_willis> Kentos:  thats samba.. has nothing really to do with ntfs.
[23:45] <zeeeero> thank you found it. and sry for talking smak. I just assumed I gave plenty enough info for a response. sadly I didnt get any until I started talking shit.  Thank you.  Was just trying to follow the java install guide.  Says to start with a %.  silly me
[23:46] <dr_willis> samba dosent care what FS you are shareiong.. as long as the permissions are correct
[23:46] <dr_willis> joofsh:  % = part of the prompt.
[23:46] <Kentos> i see
[23:46] <joofsh> okay, good to know for future reference
[23:46] <dr_willis> zeeeero:  i still dont know what youa re rambling on about....
[23:47] <Kentos> i recently set up an odd raid style for my server, had not found documents on it before
[23:48] <dr_willis> !iso
[23:48] <m3pow> a good IDE for Ubuntu ?
[23:48] <Noobuntu> anyone had any issues with synaptiks touchad driver crashing? I use an HP dv6t laptop
[23:48] <Kentos> I set up a mirror hardware raid  on 6 drives, 2 per mirror, using one as the install mirror, and then setup a softRAID in raid 0 for the two remaining mirrors
[23:49] <Kentos> has anyone done this before?
[23:49] <giorgia1503> ciao
[23:49] <giorgia1503> !list
[23:49] <pikeaero> Code::Blocks IDE
[23:50] <m3pow> i have noticed eclipse there aswell
[23:51] <m3pow> i want one that does a good job with ruby,php, html etc
[23:51] <CiscoNinja> is there is a way i can stream my screen to TV via xbox360 and ubuntu
[23:52] <Kentos> not sure how Xbox connects to a network, out of my area of knowledge
[23:53] <CiscoNinja> Kennocha, wire(less)
[23:53] <CiscoNinja> Kentos, ^^
[23:54] <Kentos> I'm not really familiar with streaming data either, much less so in using an Xbox even for games. Let me know if you find your anwser though I wouldnt mind learning how that is done
[23:55] <dr_willis> CiscoNinja:  dlna/upnp servers can stream to a xbox360
[23:55] <dr_willis> and i think vlc can do that.
[23:55] <Kentos> id really think the Xbox would have to DL something to accept a stream, however If it already has soemthing, you might want to look into its streaming app/software
[23:56] <CiscoNinja> dr_willis, i would like to stream youtube and other sites
[23:56] <CiscoNinja> dr_willis, by dlna you mean ushare
[23:59] <pragmaticenigma> Anybody have a good resource for configuring a Nvidia GeForce 6200 card? When ever I am in X, the system hangs and the screen often draws a corrupted image
[23:59] <zeeeero> I found this and I LOVE this site as its very user frendly if you can cookie cut http://www.havetheknowhow.com/Install-the-software.html