[00:13] <cyberanger> wrst: what was what
[00:13] <cyberanger> brandonn?
[00:13] <cyberanger> no clue
[00:13] <cyberanger> rough day
[00:15] <wrst> ha ha ok... strange question
[00:15]  * cyberanger has his demons, and knows actions speak louder than words, if I'm that pissed (long long time ago I had that rage) skip cussing, just knock some teeth loose
[00:16] <cyberanger> I can't think of knowing a brandon that well, memphis ip too
[00:16] <wrst> cyberanger: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/gnome3quassel.png
[00:17] <cyberanger> so I must presume trying to blow off steam, and not at the source of it (lest the pot continue to boil over)
[00:17] <wrst> yes blowing steam is a good thing, i think you will love as in hate that screenshot :)
[00:20] <cyberanger> there's a saying, he who seeks revenge must dig two graves
[00:20] <cyberanger> and at wildneress school, I knew somebody who took that to heart
[00:20] <cyberanger> dug and dug and dug
[00:20] <wrst> oh my
[00:21] <cyberanger> never acted out his revenge (and it wasn't a literal grave) and it settled his rage
[00:21] <cyberanger> it took him time todo, time that cleared his head
[00:22] <cyberanger> it was something to admire really, his actions really showed he knew anger wasn't something to have
[00:23] <cyberanger> wrst: not bad, can you do that from a terminal, or android (reliably
[00:23] <cyberanger> that is)
[00:28] <cyberanger> THIS IS AN AUTOMATED MSG: TEST
[00:28] <cyberanger> THIS IS AN AUTOMATED MSG: Meeting in one hour
[00:32] <orias> wb
[00:43] <chris4585> thanks
[00:44] <wrst> but its pretty cyberanger
[00:45] <cyberanger> must run
[00:45] <cyberanger> wrst: pretty with a tradeoff though
[00:45] <cyberanger> that script should kick in in 45 minutes, as will the meeting
[00:46] <cyberanger> agenda is release parties (memphis has one may 7th, still in planning)
[00:46] <cyberanger> a thanks for our new webhost
[00:47] <cyberanger> and I have a progress report on an installfest box, which I'll have to postpone
[00:47] <cyberanger> sorry, didn't make it to the wiki yet, mailman should be fixed
[00:47] <cyberanger> but not tested
[00:51] <cyberanger> see you all shortly
[01:14] <cyberanger> THIS IS AN AUTOMATED MSG: Meeting in 15 minutes
[01:20] <cyberanger> THIS IS AN AUTOMATED MSG: Meeting time
[01:21] <cyberanger> that one was off, hrm
[01:24] <cyberanger> must have been a 10 minute warning, goofed on the message
[01:26] <cyberanger> thanks to the G2, I might catch a little
[01:26] <cyberanger> time to go for the moment
[01:29] <cyberanger> THIS IS AN AUTOMATED MSG: Meeting time
[01:41] <cyberanger> guess nobody's here to start it
[01:41] <cyberanger> anyone can
[01:42] <cyberanger> g2g again
[01:53] <wrst> cyberanger: i think its just me... no use starting it for just one i don't think :)
[03:11] <cyberanger> wrst: sounds that way, no pace, no jfenn2199
[03:11] <cyberanger> shame
[03:11] <cyberanger> wrst: the bot worked nicely though
[03:11] <cyberanger> I think I'm gonna code it differently for version 2
[03:12] <chris4585> I was here just nothing I have to really contribute
[03:12] <cyberanger> one that can listen more, have it annoy into a meeting until a command is issued or it hears mootbot
[03:12] <cyberanger> chris4585: well, ok, I do understand
[03:12] <cyberanger> flordia and all
[03:13] <cyberanger> I have to have one this month
[03:13] <cyberanger> reschudle then
[03:13] <cyberanger> dunno why no leader showed besides net, and he resigned
[03:25] <orias> :)
[03:36] <wrst> yes cyberanger the bot was great how did you do that?
[03:40] <robertzaccour> am i late for the meeting?
[03:42] <wrst> a little robertzaccour :) but it is rescheduled
[03:43] <robertzaccour> thats not what the description says
[03:43] <robertzaccour> when is it?
[03:43] <wrst> don't know sometime this month cyberanger will announce it
[03:43] <robertzaccour> oh ok
[03:44] <robertzaccour> description needs updated haha
[03:44] <wrst> but robertzaccour at least you came
[03:44] <robertzaccour> yeah :)
[03:54] <cyberanger> robertzaccour: today 2 and a half hours ago
[03:54] <cyberanger> due to nobody but wrst here (idk why, I had my birthday dinner with family, another member had a family member event too, aside from that idk)
[03:55] <wrst> cyberanger: i finally make it to a meeting and no one shows, that may be a sign :)
[03:55] <robertzaccour> cyberanger, oh i see. im at work now on android
[03:55] <cyberanger> so I will have to reschedule it due to that, perhaps next week, same time
[03:56] <cyberanger> robertzaccour: yeah, I aim to be off on time for it, sometimes I'm late, rare I outright miss it
[03:57] <cyberanger> and rarer it's planned like tonight
[03:58] <cyberanger> wrst: you've been to so many meetings, you and others just have time issues, can't arrive on time (hence the half hour delay, now our new meeting time) gotta leave early
[04:00] <cyberanger> odd to have that happen, but no time is perfect
[04:23] <brandonn> hrmm
[04:24] <brandonn> i didn't even know that there was a meeting today :P  i guess i should take a look at that stuff
[04:24] <cyberanger> yeah, 1st thurs. each month
[04:25] <brandonn> aight, so what does everyone talk about at those things?
[04:25] <cyberanger> and this month we'll have another next week
[04:25] <cyberanger> varies
[04:25] <brandonn> errrm
[04:25] <brandonn> aight
[04:25] <cyberanger> usually planning upcomming events
[04:25] <brandonn> what kind of events ?
[04:26] <cyberanger> install fests, release parties
[04:26] <cyberanger> and such
[04:26] <brandonn> that sounds coo  lolz
[04:27] <brandonn> well im sleepy, so ill be back on tomorrow.
[04:27] <cyberanger> see you then
[04:28] <brandonn> aight.. later
[05:39] <chris4585> ping
[05:40] <cyberanger> cyberanger: pong
[05:42] <cyberanger> chris4585: pong
[05:42] <chris4585> cyberanger, ah thanks, sometimes its really hard to tell if I'm really connected with my internet..
[05:42] <cyberanger> chris4585: no sweat
[13:58] <Xpistos> okay I am actually here today
[14:08] <wrst> wow Xpistos!
[15:56] <orias> o/
[16:56] <Xpistos> my laptop monitor died on me
[16:57] <Xpistos> at least I think it did
[17:08] <orias> 0.o
[17:08] <orias> video out still work?
[17:35] <Xpistos> yes
[17:35] <Xpistos> and when I turn on the box, the Splash screen is lit for a second like the LED backlght is out but I am now sure what I need
[17:43] <orias> well that sucks... sorry
[17:49] <Xpistos> I am tyring to buy another one so I have parts
[17:49] <Xpistos> inspiron 1405
[18:52] <chris4585> Xpistos, ouch I have a 1420n
[18:56] <cyberanger> yikes
[19:05] <Xpistos> get this.
[19:05] <Xpistos> after 3 days with no back led
[19:05] <Xpistos> all of a sudden the led is working again
[19:05] <Xpistos> I shut down and it is still up after I restarted?
[19:06] <cyberanger> hrm
[19:11] <Xpistos> how can I see my partitions and how big I have them
[19:11] <Xpistos> brain fart
[19:12] <Xpistos> and what i labeled them?
[19:15] <chris4585> Xpistos, I use gparted
[19:15] <Xpistos> oh yea
[19:15] <chris4585> you will probably have to install it
[19:15] <chris4585> gparted <3
[19:16] <Xpistos> duh
[19:16] <Xpistos> of course I forgot to label these when I installed, but that is okay I remmber what they are from size now too
[19:16] <Xpistos> thanks chris4585
[19:16] <Xpistos> BRAINFARTED!
[19:17] <chris4585> np
[19:18] <Xpistos> and what is a good rule of thumb for swap anybody
[19:18] <Xpistos> I have 4gb installed and currently have my swap at 2gb
[19:18] <chris4585> eh 2gbs
[19:18] <chris4585> or at least the same amount of ram
[19:18] <Xpistos> So bump it up to 4 gibs?
[19:18] <Xpistos> or 2 is good
[19:19] <chris4585> 2gb is really fine, unless you have a complete freeze
[19:19] <Xpistos> nope
[19:19] <chris4585> ubuntu's installer always does 2x the size of ram I believe though
[19:20] <Xpistos> I custom
[19:20] <Xpistos> put boot alone
[19:20] <Xpistos> put / alone
[19:20] <Xpistos> put home alone
[19:20] <Xpistos> and then use a /data part for my stuff
[21:10] <cyberanger> Xpistos: another command for that is df (I use 'df -h' simplifies things a bit)
[21:11] <Xpistos> gotcha
[21:11] <Xpistos> wow ubuntu ultimate has a lot of crap in it
[21:11] <cyberanger> Xpistos: the old swap rule was double your ram, but I think that's kinda gone out the door lately, due to ram getting above most linux users needs
[21:11] <Xpistos> I don't mean bad crap
[21:11] <Xpistos> I just mean alot of stuf
[21:12] <cyberanger> I still follow that due to hard disc sizes also growing at the same rate, and it doesn't hurt
[21:13] <cyberanger> chris4585: as a rule of thumb, that's what ubuntu did do, on avg.
[21:13] <cyberanger> Xpistos: ubuntu ultimate?
[21:15] <Xpistos> http://ultimateedition.info/
[21:15] <cyberanger> chris4585: I've seen it do some other things too, but they were rare in comparison (and I've not used automated for awhile, prefering to keep /boot a little closer and encrypt the rest)
[21:15] <Xpistos> 2.8 is based on 10.10
[21:16] <cyberanger> Xpistos: I see, intresting
[21:16] <cyberanger> something I do myself though
[21:17] <Xpistos> well i will only have it til the end of the month so
[21:22] <chris4585> cyberanger, well... when I installed ubuntu on my desktop last time it decided to give me 11gbs of ram
[21:22] <chris4585> thats a little redonkulous
[21:24] <chris4585> forgot to mention my desktop has 4gbs of ram
[21:31] <cyberanger> 11GB of swap?
[21:31] <chris4585> yep..
[21:32] <cyberanger> yeah, that might be a step beyond reason
[22:08] <chris4585> I'm not sure if this is normal or not, but I'm using my desktop with the default video drivers, and things seem to be smoother than with the nvidia drivers
[23:18] <cyberanger> depends on the card, the driver, settings
[23:18] <cyberanger> but it can indeed be normal
[23:27] <wrst> chris4585: on ati i have better performance with the open drivers
[23:27] <wrst> on my laptop
[23:31] <cyberanger> same logic
[23:31] <wrst> cyberanger: i didn't realize that until ati dropped support of my card and low and behold the open source one was better
[23:33] <cyberanger> brb
[23:37] <cyberanger> back
[23:37] <cyberanger> wrst: yeah it's a card and driver thing
[23:37] <wrst> yes and varies much by card
[23:37] <cyberanger> usually they code for a reference design out of 5 models and such
[23:38] <wrst> really i didn't realize that the noveau drivers were good enough to do any compositing yet? so i always install the nvidia drivers
[23:38] <cyberanger> and each driver has it's fixes to the reference design, sometimes that's not so helpful for the mobile chip, or the higher end desktop card
[23:39] <cyberanger> sometimes we test FOSS drivers, they don't, it's like playing blackjack with only face cards, you'll never hit 21
[23:39] <wrst> yep but its good to have options when needed
[23:39] <cyberanger> well, working options yes
[23:40] <cyberanger> and that's the thing, you'll never hit 21 the way it's done, you'll either hit 20 or bust
[23:41] <cyberanger> but why hit 21 when the house always wins
[23:43] <cyberanger> (dropping the blackjack bit, what good is perfect when your so close now, and the extra effort is bug fixes, not newer drivers for newer cards, gotta focus on best use of your resources)
[23:50] <wrst> chris4585: hate to say it but after using gnome 3.0 / gnome shell for a couple of days i much prefer it over unity


[06:50] <MooDoo> hello all
[21:29] <elfy> hi - are there any ops in here can deal with an ubuntu cloak for PartisanEntity
[21:39] <Fuchs> elfy: you'd need both the IRCC and a staffer,
[21:40] <Fuchs> elfy: plus I think it tends to work better if the future cloakee is actually asking. They at least certainly need to be around-ish to confirm to the staffer
[21:40] <elfy> they are - just remembering how to IRC
[21:41] <Fuchs> ah :)
[21:44] <PartisanEntity> i asked on #freenode but it seems not one is around right now :)
[21:44] <Fuchs> oh, there is at least one staffer active,
[21:44] <elfy> that was for a different cloak PartisanEntity
[21:44] <Fuchs> but for the ubuntu cloak you'd also need someone from the IRCC
[21:45] <PartisanEntity> oh i see elfy, man im confused now :)
[21:45] <elfy> I don't really want to have to sort the access list for the forum channel out twice
[21:45] <elfy> PartisanEntity: :)
[21:45] <Fuchs> hm?  If you are doing access list entries based on cloaks, you are probably doing something wrong
[21:45] <Fuchs> unless you do mass ones, like  /ubuntu/member/*
[21:45] <elfy> yea - it's the forum mods channel
[21:46] <Fuchs> ah
[21:46] <elfy> we do it like that - don't ask me why :)
[21:46] <elfy> the ways of irc are arcane :p
[21:46] <PartisanEntity> ok its time for me to hit the sack, thanks again for your kind help elfy
[21:47] <elfy> PartisanEntity: ok - well I'm about tomorrow - but just come back here and ask again
[21:47] <Fuchs> anyway, just wait for an IRCC member, have your launchpad page (with the ubuntu membership) at hand, have them confirm it, have a staffer set it -> don
[21:47] <Fuchs> *done
[21:47] <PartisanEntity> ok thanks will do
[21:48] <Fuchs> (optionally make sure your client is configured to use http://freenode.net/sasl/ so you are authenticated on connect, especially helpful when that channel is an internal one where you can only join when identified)
[21:49] <PartisanEntity> im using empathy, does it do that ?
[21:49] <Fuchs> not entirely sure, as I am not very fond of IM clients for IRC. If it doesn't, there is an alternative which works in most cases, that is setting    youraccountname:yourpassword   (including the colon) as the server password
[21:49]  * elfy looked at sasl in hexchat - seems I need to use it on primary nick and this isn't the primary nicjs
[21:50] <PartisanEntity> thanks Fuchs, ill look into this all a little more
[21:50] <Fuchs> elfy: technically you don't have to be _on_ the primary nick, but you need to specify the primary nick. Some clients don't allow you to do that (which is silly)
[21:50] <Fuchs> as far as I am informed, hexchat uses the "username"  (which is also your ident, but that doesn't matter anyway), so you can just set the primary nick there.
[21:51] <elfy> yea - I just get fail to connect - and couldn't be bothered to look deeper - manana :)
[21:51] <Fuchs> as I wrote: optional. In some cases you definitely want it, but it's not needed, just recommended :)
[21:52] <elfy> Fuchs: then it wants to use that nick - which is sitting in an irssi instance for me - I complicate matters :p
[21:54] <elfy> anyway - partisan has gone and will be fine I am sure - I'll leave here now
[21:54] <elfy> nice to speak Fuchs :)
[21:54] <Fuchs> :)  Have a nice day
[21:55] <elfy> :)
[21:59] <hggdh> oh, I missed them
[22:00] <IdleOne> no patience
[22:00] <hggdh> anyway, partisanEntity did not provide us with the LP link...
[22:01]  * hggdh goes back to work


[08:30] <gidna> ii  lightdm-gtk-greeter   2.0.6-1    amd64   simple display manager (GTK+ greeter)
[08:30] <gidna> maybe I have to change this # greeter-hide-users=false
[08:30] <gidna> uncomment this line
[08:31] <Unit193> If you have defined that somewhere else, then you could just remove the line from there, but yeah that could work too.
[08:31] <gidna> but I get "You're trying to modify a read only file"
[08:33] <Unit193> If you execute `lightdm-gtk-greeter --help` it should show you what files you're reading from.  That's likely because it's a system file, and you're trying to edit it as a user.
[08:34] <gidna> ** Message: 10:34:14.595: [Configuration] Reading file: /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d/01_debian.conf
[08:34] <gidna> ** Message: 10:34:14.595: [Configuration] Reading file: /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
[08:34] <gidna> so which one have I to modify?
[08:35] <Unit193> ...Are you even using Xubuntu?
[08:35] <Unit193> /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf would be the file, since if you remove /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d/01_debian.conf it'll just be replaced on upgrade/re-install.
[08:35] <gidna> Unit193, not yet but it should be the same..
[08:35] <Unit193> gidna: It's very much not the same...Please use the correct channel in the future.
[08:36] <Unit193> For example: In Debian you have to type in the username but in Xubuntu it defaults to the last one used.
[08:37] <gidna> Unit193, maybe 'cause you have # greeter-hide-users=false already uncommented??
[08:37] <Unit193> No, Debian ships /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d/01_debian.conf which defines greeter-hide-users as 'true', so it technically is the one that differs from upstream defaults.
[08:38] <Unit193> Err, actually sorry.  That's /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/01_debian.conf that defines it.
[08:39] <Unit193> gidna: Regardless, you'll want to edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[08:39] <gidna> Unit193, but you have to set it as # greeter-hide-users=false not true..
[12:56] <Guest_10> Hello
[12:56] <Guest_10> I forget the name I went by but a few years ago I had xubuntu. I wish I rmemebered my name lol
[12:58] <Guest_10> I am considering getting some kind of Linux again on my computer, can anyone help me? I'm using a Lenovo X131e, and I am unsure how to reinstall windows 7 if I ever would want it back.
[12:59] <well_laid_lawn> you can dual boot
[12:59] <well_laid_lawn> !dualboot
[13:00] <Guest_10> I might not want to dual boot though
[13:00] <Guest_10> Is it possible to restore windows without a CD? My computer has no disk drive
[13:01] <tomreyn> you're on a xubuntu support channel
[13:02] <tomreyn> you can probably prepare a windows installer usb stick from xubuntu, using a software called woeusb.
[13:02] <tomreyn> (which is not part of ubuntu)
[13:02] <Guest_10> thanks
[13:04] <tomreyn> if you're about to replace windows by ubuntu, consider installing any firmware upgrades before you do so - many vendors do not provide tooling for this on linux yet, sadly.
[13:05] <Guest_10> thank you for the tips
[13:05] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[23:12] <PoolShark_> ok I have some time to throw at this bluetooth problem.. xubuntu 18.04 installed fresh a few days ago.. bluetooth audio worked great until the night before last, and suddenly stopped. now it will not pair with my BT speakers at all.. tried removing, repairing, etc... no avail


[12:19] <tdaitx> doko, ops, ended calling you at #debian-java instead of here... anyway, I have prepared new Xenial packages for OpenJDK 6 and 7
[12:19] <tdaitx> https://launchpad.net/~tdaitx/+archive/ubuntu/openjdk/+packages
[12:24] <tdaitx> doko, please review them and let me know what you found
[12:25] <tdaitx> doko, also let me know when you upload them, I need to provide a wily backport for the security team


[00:03] <MythbuntuGuest07> Hi! I have a question about Frequency Table. I have comcast, and plugged cable right into my hd-5500. When I scan, I get no channels come up.
[00:04] <MythbuntuGuest07> I remember having to change the frequency table in the past for to see channels.
[00:10] <MythbuntuGuest07> Nevermind, I got it.
[04:42] <tgm4883> Can anyone recommend a good ota antenna for the attic
[05:14] <kiatoa> hello, question: my ubuntu/mythtv system went from recording well a few days ago to poor recording. I recently applied a security update but think the issue occured before the update (xorg, compiz, gstreamer and libsasl2 were updated). I'm looking for suggestions on how to debug the problem.
[07:19] <MythbuntuGuest10> !help
[07:19] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[09:17] <MythbuntuGuest10> there?
[09:17] <MythbuntuGuest10> any1?
[09:17] <MythbuntuGuest10> i just want to know how i can have multiple video directories
[09:17] <MythbuntuGuest10> ive mounted both the shared files
[09:17] <MythbuntuGuest10> i just need to set them both up to be read
[12:54] <zacatlan> hi guys... first time mythbuntu. can someone tell me which restricted extras should I use? ubuntu or xbuntu?
[13:54] <Invio> hey, i have seen, that mythbuntu needs support for her iso files, i can host them on a german server
[16:46] <dvdjimmy> dear all
[16:46] <dvdjimmy> I have currently a strange problem with a dvb-c setup in germany
[16:47] <dvdjimmy> if I only add one transport to the list of transports and scan all existing transports, then suddenly mythbuntu adds a lot of other transports to the list which are no longer related to dvb-c
[16:48] <dvdjimmy> they are related to dvb-s but I only have one dvb-c card installed
[16:48] <dvdjimmy> :(
[16:48] <dvdjimmy> this results in not being able to watch live tv as mythbuntu complains about wrong frequency and symbolrate
[19:08] <tgm4883> anyone use ethernet over powerline
[19:27] <Daviey> yus
[19:28] <tgm4883> Daviey, how well does that work for you?
[19:28] <Daviey> dandy
[19:28] <tgm4883> can you do HD over it?
[19:28] <Daviey> tgm4883: remember to take the shrink wrapoff.. otherwise it gets realy hot and kills the connection :)
[19:29] <Daviey> tgm4883: "apparently" .. not tried it personally
[19:29] <Daviey> but the speed is good
[19:29] <tgm4883> it's 85 Mbps
[19:30] <tgm4883> you haven't tried EoP personally, or haven't tried HD over it?
[19:30] <Daviey> HD
[19:30] <Daviey> I use it all the time
[19:30] <tgm4883> ok
[19:30] <Daviey> <--- using a wifi access point connected to EoP
[19:31] <tgm4883> HD over that?
[19:31] <Daviey> not tried HD
[19:31] <tgm4883> you have no HD?
[19:31] <Daviey> no
[19:31] <tgm4883> USA > England
[19:31] <tgm4883> ;)
[19:31] <Daviey> Daviey's equipment < HD
[19:31] <tgm4883> :(
[19:32] <Daviey> well i want hi-def sat.. but i'm waiting for a dual board
[19:32] <Daviey> don't want two PCI cards
[19:32] <tgm4883> yea, that gets to be a pain in smaller cases
[19:32] <Daviey> meh.. backend :)
[19:32] <tgm4883> I have that issue in my Antec Fusion
[19:33] <Daviey> but i only have 1 spair pci slot in the backend, and i don't want to rip out a dvb-t card
[19:33] <Daviey> (have two dvb-t cards)
[19:33] <tgm4883> heh, well I could have a separate backend if HD over EoP works well
[19:33] <Daviey> well the kit i bought stated it could do hi-def.. and tbhi believe it.. not had any speed issues
[19:34] <tgm4883> I'll have to see if anywhere in town carries some at a decent price
[19:35] <tgm4883> it's that or wireless N stuff
[19:36]  * Daviey meh's wireless for high delievery stuff
[19:36] <Daviey> My EoP is 200Mbps
[19:36] <Daviey> http://www.zyxel.co.uk/web/product_category.php?PC1indexflag=20050804090200
[19:36] <tgm4883> ah yea, that should do HD well
[19:37] <tgm4883> i'm not sure I can find one of those in town though
[19:37] <Daviey> i bought 3 of them bad boys
[19:37] <Daviey> "town"!
[19:37] <Daviey> wtf.. using mail order :)
[19:38] <Daviey> I just wish it included PoE
[19:38] <Daviey> One of them is used for a Voip phone in the bedroom
[19:38] <Daviey> the other is in the garage with the adsl router
[19:39] <tgm4883> nice
[19:39] <Daviey> the 3rd is in the office, connected to a 16 port switch.. linkining 2 PC's, a fon access point normally with 2 laptops connected
[19:39] <tgm4883> sounds like that might be the way to go
[19:39] <Daviey> oh, and and two sip phones
[19:40] <Daviey> so the bandwidth is pretty good :P
[19:40] <tgm4883> yep, sounds like it