[02:14] <wrst> hey chris4585
[02:24] <Unit193> Howdy wrst , chris4585
[02:25] <Unit193> wrst: Did you ever get a chance to try Tomato?
[02:37] <wrst> no Unit193 haven't yet I will sometime going to pick up a spare router sometime soon
[02:38] <Unit193> wrst: Cool, didn't mean to haggle ;)  And sweet on the spare router that can handle it!
[02:44] <cyberanger> Unit193: he's using ddwrt now, it's much better
[02:45] <cyberanger> but tomato is more simplistic, something you'd give a family member
[02:45] <Unit193> cyberanger: I know what he's using, but I like Tomato better :)
[02:45] <wrst> ha ha cyberanger actually simplistic might work better for me
[02:45] <Unit193> Tomato has great b/w tracking and nice SSH access (keyfile and I can disable pass)
[02:45] <wrst> dd-wrt does way more than i need
[02:45] <cyberanger> Unit193: well, I've used both, but I like my own
[02:46] <cyberanger> supports alot of dial up modems & celluar cards ;-)
[02:47] <wrst> goodnight all, Unit193 I will give you a report on that when I get a chance
[02:47] <cyberanger> night wrst
[02:48] <cyberanger> Unit193: that celluar data was shown last june, I was chatting over slow nextel iden link (at boost mobile rate)
[02:48] <Unit193> wrst: Have a good night!
[02:49] <Unit193> I have no use for that as I am using a Linksys router as a router :P
[02:49] <cyberanger> only time I was down, was no signal (this time, I've got three cards, t-moobile, sprint & nextel, I should be covered ;-)
[02:51] <cyberanger> Unit193: true, but I've got more support for that in ddwrt (just not as much as my own setup on full hardware)
[04:03] <Unit193> I've got RSS working just fine in ze bot! (Not that you care :P )
[04:04] <chris4585> hey wrst
[11:41] <wrst> a belated howdy chris4585 :)
[13:40] <vychune> o/
[18:58] <vychune> hey cyberanger you here?
[19:00] <vychune> well i ask the whole chan
[19:01] <vychune> i have a laptop that will not turn on, the client has beeen to multiple stores and shops trying to get it to turn on nothing has worked
[19:01] <vychune> i think the power supply is bad
[19:02] <vychune> she was using it and it ust conked out on her
[19:15] <wrst> vychune: i've known of some laptopls that the switch goes bad in, that a possibility?
[19:16] <vychune> the swicth as in the power button?
[19:16] <wrst> yeah that's it :)
[19:16]  * wrst never uses the right/correct word
[19:16] <vychune> but wouldnt it have stayed on?
[19:21] <wrst> if you use the shut down from your OS you aren't using the power buttong
[19:21] <wrst> just a thought vychune i'm not a hardware repair person but have seen that
[19:22] <vychune> ok
[19:22] <vychune> thanks for your help!
[19:22] <vychune> ill look into that
[19:22] <wrst> but vychune I would think that checking voltoges would be the place to start
[19:22] <wrst> voltages*
[19:22] <Unit193> There are power supply testers and you can also test it with a paperclip :P
[19:22] <vychune> ROTFLOL
[19:24] <wrst> Unit193: you sound like my type of guy :)
[19:24] <vychune> smh
[19:25] <Unit193> wrst: I may be! I've done that one once.  Not exactly.
[19:28] <wrst> Unit193: good to know
[19:28] <wrst> on that link
[19:29] <Unit193> wrst: REALLY make sure you get the correct one!!
[19:34] <vychune> unless you like extra crispy
[23:40] <cyberanger> hey everyone
[23:41] <Unit193> cyberanger: Howdy! (If I'm part of everyone ;) )
[23:43] <cyberanger> if [ $Unit193 != AI ]; then; echo hey Unit193 ; fi
[23:43] <cyberanger> if [ $Unit193 != AI ]; then; echo you sre a part of everyone ; else bots don't count ; fi
[23:45] <Unit193> Speaking of bots, I love mine :)  He even tells me callerid!!
[23:46] <Unit193> Er... Who is calling the house
[23:47] <cyberanger> that's good, I want to do that with byobu applet
[23:48] <Unit193> I just use tail :P
[23:49] <cyberanger> what method do you use for that
[23:49] <cyberanger> I've not done that on a landline in a long time, the project I used is now dead
[23:49] <Unit193> I follow a log file created by yac
[23:50] <Unit193> Your method would work better
[23:50] <cyberanger> I've used asterisk lately
[23:51] <cyberanger> Unit193: my current method now hasn't been done with a landline
[23:53] <Unit193> cyberanger: Mine uses wine :P NCID should work too thought
[23:53] <Unit193> -t
[23:53] <cyberanger> was about to ask if it was wine
[23:54] <Unit193> I have it on startup :P
[23:56] <cyberanger> I have it purged, vodka or soda, no wine ;-)
[23:57] <Unit193> Eh? No whiskey?


[20:02] <switchgirl_> anyone watching the match England Vs USA? (we're so ganna whoop ya :P ) anyone watching it on twitter? and are youtube streaming it? :s
[20:03] <JanC> switchgirl_: Belgian TV are streaming it  ;)
[20:03] <IdleOne> watching it o/
[20:03] <JanC> (with commentary in Dutch)
[20:03] <Pendulum> I'm also watching (not online)
[20:04] <JanC> the US doesn't play too bad BTW (e.g. their keeper)
[20:04] <switchgirl_> JanC, i know
[20:05] <switchgirl_> JanC, i used to live near Whitehaven.... still at war with the republic of america
[20:06] <switchgirl_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitehaven#History
[20:06] <JanC> switchgirl_: I think that's a bit silly  ;)
[20:07] <JanC> England has more players with high level experience, so in theory they have the advantage
[20:07] <switchgirl_> JanC, behind the irc/tcp/ip/ monitor i am smiling and laughing at myself
[20:07] <switchgirl_> JanC, we invented many games (including baseball)
[20:07] <switchgirl_> i'm glad it brings people together
[20:08] <switchgirl_> the Ubuntu is strong with people :)
[20:08] <JanC> I'm not sure who invented baseball really...  ;)
[20:10] <JanC> according to wikipedia, the oldest mention of a similar game was played in France  ;)
[20:11] <JanC> woops 1-1
[20:12] <JanC> seems like one of the US team's strengths is the England team's weakness (the keeper...)
[20:12] <Pendulum> that's gotta feel vindicating for Dempsey who gets really dumped on by Americans
[20:17] <switchgirl_> wikipedia is wrong i asked my friend - a Dr in History
[20:18] <JanC> switchgirl_: wikipedia makes clear it's a game that bears some similarities to baseball, it wasn't baseball of course
[20:21] <JanC> Pendulum: it was a lucky goal really, but maybe he deserves the luck  ☺
[20:22] <Pendulum> JanC: yep, totally a lucky goal. but a goal nonetheless.
[20:23] <JanC> for the tournament it doesn't matter of course
[20:26] <JanC> there is a keeper in the TV-studio here in Belgium who talks about how it must feel to be that keeper making that mistake...
[20:27] <pleia2> switchgirl_: I invited you to -women (so this conversation can go there ;))
[20:27] <JanC> yeah, maybe that's a good idea
[20:27] <JanC> ;)
[20:28] <pleia2> I mentioned this in the other channel but not here - we're working with the sysadmins regarding the wiki, looks like they'll be moving it to another server so a couple of us can have shell access to it \o/
[20:29] <pleia2> which means we have more control - like to lock down the whole thing - than regular web-based wiki admins have
[20:29] <pleia2> plus we'll be able to read access logs
[20:29] <pleia2> and still, if you see something that needs to be changed until this is sorted, just nudge me, elky or akgraner (I'm also willing to add more admins)
[20:33] <JanC> switchgirl_: please join #ubuntu-women  ☺


[00:16]  * PriceChild discovers ted.com
[00:53] <ubotu> neverblue called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[00:54] <jrib> ugh I need to get to work on the weechat script...
[00:56] <LjL> jrib: which does?
[00:57] <jrib> well for one I had an irssi script to automatically ban-forward those people to -read-topic, but I can't even op, ban, deop
[00:58] <LjL> jrib, if you were in #ubuntu-ops-monitor you'd know you won't need that :)
[01:05] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, xzased said: ubotu: actually, it is not a digital camera, its a picture frame, but I thought the procedure would be similar.
[01:11] <krim> Hi I would like to be tested for the DCCExploit
[01:11] <PriceChild> krim, you may rejoin #ubuntu.
[01:12] <krim> Great, thanks
[01:34] <jughead> Hello, may I be tested please?
[01:36] <PriceChild> jughead, you may rejoin #ubuntu
[01:36] <jughead> thanks PriceChild
[01:39] <somerville32> Barbecue just dcc send spammed me
[01:39] <Pici> odd
[01:39] <Pici> did that just starT?
[01:40] <nalioth> he's been klined
[01:40] <elkbuntu> somerville32, we've done all we can, we need someone with kline powah now
[01:40] <elkbuntu> excellent
[01:41]  * somerville32 tries to get over the trauma
[01:43] <elkbuntu> somerville32, if that was traumatic, i think the internet is the wrong place for you :Þ
[01:43]  * somerville32 suffers from severe PTSD :P
[01:43] <LjL> can we k-line everyone in #ubuntu who comments on people who've been k-lined?
[01:44] <jdong> can we kline everyone who's seen someone klined?
[01:44] <jdong> that would be fun
[01:44] <nalioth> i think we should kline forums mods who write stickies about villanous folk
[01:45] <jdong> lol
[01:45] <jdong> I think we should kline staffers that keep finding bugs in torrent apps :)
[01:46] <JanC> somerville32: I got several tries to DCC-send me mirc.ini too   ;)
[01:46] <somerville32> I'm like doing CDBS kung-fu and then these windows start flying out of no where :(
[01:47] <JanC> you can probably disable that
[01:48] <LjL> is PFA supposed to be banned from -offtopic by any chance?
[01:49] <Pici> Not to my knowledge... but that might be before my time
[01:50] <LjL> well i know tor is kind of suspicious
[01:50] <LjL> well, not tor, ircatwork
[01:51] <mneptok> nalioth: ping
[01:53] <nalioth> mneptok: pong
[01:54] <mneptok> nalioth: my co-worker is concerned about #ubuntu-co. he's a co-admin, and the founder is *way* AWOL.
[01:54] <mneptok> nalioth: any chance you can bump up his access level?
[01:54] <mneptok> (MagicFab)\
[01:55] <elkbuntu> nalioth, magicfab is trustworthy
[01:55]  * nalioth points out to mneptok that #ubuntu-irc is the place for this business
[01:56] <mneptok> he sits 3 feet behind me. if he misbehaves, i can punish him in meatspace.
[01:56] <nalioth> aha
[01:56] <mneptok> and yes, that the mnep definition of "punish" >:)
[01:56] <mneptok> he's active now if you want to /msg
[01:57] <no0tic> "meatspace", nice
[01:59] <Pici> my connection is doing weird things, so someone keep an eye on bef in -offtopic while my connection bounces a few times
[01:59] <mneptok> Pici: roger roger
[01:59] <jdong> mneptok: "meatspace"
[01:59] <jdong> mneptok: "Proprietary Kernel Extension"
[02:01] <mneptok> jdong: it feels like real flesh!
[02:03] <jdong> mneptok: it really grows on you :)
[02:51]  * somerville32 cuddles with mc44
[02:51]  * jdong slowly backs out of the room...
[02:51] <ajmitch> how random
[02:52]  * jdong points out he's not getting any love...
[02:52]  * somerville32 looks to ajmitch for jdong.
[02:54] <ajmitch> you chased away elkbuntu
[02:54] <no0tic> by jdong
[02:54] <no0tic> *bye
[02:56]  * LjL cuddles with ubotu
[02:56]  * Seeker` doesn't
[02:57] <LjL> !sorry | Seeker`
[02:57] <ubotu> Seeker`: It's ok, I can't stay mad at you.
[02:57] <Seeker`> :P
[02:57]  * Seeker` does go to bed though
[02:57] <Seeker`> I have to be in a lecture in 6 hours
[02:58] <Seeker`> night
[02:59] <no0tic> night
[02:59] <LjL> oh and jdong, don't act like the one who "backs out of the room"... we have the other day's logs :P
[03:00]  * ajmitch at least always behaves :P
[03:14] <jdong> uh oh they're on to me ;-)
[04:33] <pjeide> Greetings ops. I was flagged for having a vulnurabilty causing me to be disconnected.  I've taken the steps to try to prevent this from happening.
[04:34] <pjeide> I am already on port 8001 and I have the latest firmware revision.
[04:34] <pjeide> I believe that I may have been flagged in error? Would someone be willing to assist me in rejoining?
[04:36] <pjeide> !ops | Is anyone available to provide assitance?
[04:36] <ubotu> Is anyone available to provide assitance?: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!
[04:36] <ubotu> pjeide called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (Is anyone available to provide assitance?)
[04:37] <Amaranth> heh
[04:38] <Amaranth> pjeide: You're not on port 8001
[04:38] <pjeide> hmm Konversation is configured that way
[04:42] <pjeide> Amaranth: I apologize, you were correct. I had manually /connected without specifying the port, although the client was configured properly.
[04:42] <Amaranth> ok, seems alright
[04:42] <pjeide> I am not connected appropiately, and hope not to be vulnurable?
[04:43] <Amaranth> where you you banned from?
[04:43] <pjeide> s/not/now
[04:43] <pjeide> #ubuntu
[04:43] <Amaranth> free to enter
[04:43] <pjeide> Amaranth: thank you for your assistance
[04:43] <pjeide> what is the root of the vulnurability?
[04:44] <pjeide> what function does it utilize that updated firmware for the router or a different port would utilize?
[04:44] <pjeide> and how would they get my IP in the first place? it is a DCC string vulnurability?
[04:45] <no0tic> the last you said
[04:45] <Madpilot> It's a fault in how some routers handle DCC stuff coming thru the standard IRC port, I think
[04:46] <pjeide> why would my client accept a dcc connection to the point of it being a flaw in the router?
[04:46] <pjeide> dcc connection starts as a ctcp string which is just a privmsg surrounded by special characters
[04:47] <pjeide> they have no access to my router without an actual connection
[04:47] <jdong> pjeide: your faulty router thinks a specially crafted DCC string sent over normal IRC port 6667 is an "exploit" and disconnects your TCP connection to freenode
[04:47] <no0tic> jdong, so it becomes an exploit :)
[04:48] <jdong> pjeide: many routers have this fault and as a result a kiddie typing this sequence in a busy channel leads to pages of people leaving so it "looks entertaining"
[04:48] <pjeide> jdong: i see
[04:48] <pjeide> jdong: I wasn't aware the router was filtering traffic on that level
[04:48] <Amaranth> It may also be a bug in the router's code?
[04:48] <Amaranth> I mean, an overflow or something
[04:48] <jdong> pjeide: to be honest, it really shouldn't be.... but what control do we have over what our router mfr's want to do to our traffic :)
[04:49] <jdong> Amaranth: yeah, that's certainly a possibility. I'm more leaning towards an overzealous IDS type rule
[04:49] <Amaranth> yeah me too
[04:49] <jdong> I recall Norton's spectacle with the startk***ger thing
[04:49] <pjeide> if it was an overflow bug why would it not be effective on port 8001?
[04:49] <jdong> pjeide: your router doesn't look for this "exploit" on port != 6667 :)
[04:49] <jdong> pjeide: it's not smart enough to detect IRC traffic -- it just thinks port 6667 = IRC
[04:50] <pjeide> the fact that it is vulnurable on 6667 implicates that the offending traffing comes directly through a privmsg or channel message
[04:50] <pjeide> jdong:  right
[04:50] <jdong> pjeide: it's normal text. AFAIK you can wget an HTML page from a webserver on port 6667 with this special plaintext string and your router will abort the connection
[04:50] <jdong> though I'm not 100% certain on that
[04:51] <jdong> (Norton hilariously would ban the "offending IP" i.e. IRC server for 24 hours)
[04:51] <pjeide> jdong: There was a technique similar to that which I fiddled around with back in the mid 90s
[04:51] <pjeide> Involving MS winsock
[04:52] <jdong> pjeide: I'm not surprised at all -- history riddles us with all kinds of packet-of-death type exploits :)
[04:52]  * tonyyarusso deeceecees a small dancing GIF of the Grim Reaper to jdong
[04:52] <Amaranth> I thought switching to 8001 made freenode lock you with +C
[04:52] <Amaranth> (block CTCP)
[04:52] <pjeide> jdong: I invented this technique just playing with my modem so I could pick up the line and listen in through the computer speakers hooked to a stereo and record the conversation :)
[04:53] <jdong> pjeide: apparently there are still dialup modems vulnerable to the +++ATZ "hack" :D
[04:53] <jdong> s/still/people still using/
[04:53] <pjeide> jdong: +++ATH0
[04:54] <jdong> pjeide: ATZ works just as well (reset rather than hangup line 0)
[04:54] <pjeide> at least it was
[04:54] <pjeide> ah
[04:54] <jdong> pjeide: actually +++ would work alone -- it would escape the modem to command mode and then the connection will of course time out after 120s
[04:55] <pjeide> hmm
[04:55] <pjeide> jdong: I was about 13 when I figured it out over a decade ago..  :) I stopped at ATH0 lol
[04:55] <jdong> pjeide: since then modern modems have carrier guards for that so this technique is largely useless
[04:55] <no0tic> jdong, how do you send AT commands to remote modems?
[04:55] <jdong> definitely if you have a 56K modem you're fine
[04:56] <jdong> no0tic: +++ in the data stream escapes to data mode
[04:56] <jdong> no0tic: err, command mode rather
[04:56] <no0tic> jdong, ah ok, raw datas :)
[04:56] <jdong> no0tic: and depending on where the buffer is cleaved the ATH0 part might get shoved in, too :)
[04:56] <jdong> either way your connection is toast without a carrier guard
[04:57] <pjeide> jdong: At the time I was also able to convert the string to hex and send with an icmp packet
[04:57] <no0tic> fine
[04:57] <ubotu> bruenig called the ops in #ubuntu (Enslaved)
[04:57] <jdong> pjeide: I've heard LAND packets work on XP SP2 and all later versions of Windows
[04:57] <jdong> including Vista
[04:57] <jdong> it's the bug that never dies :)
[04:57] <pjeide> ha
[04:57] <jdong> got killed as far back as Windows 95
[04:58] <jdong> but they keep on bringin it back
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> !rules is <alias> etiquette
[04:58] <ubotu> But rules already means something else!
[04:58] <jdong> Vista is more secure because it has a rewritten TCP stack, huh?
[04:58] <jdong> B!S!
[04:58] <no0tic> where could I make me a culture on these topics?
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> All right, who beat me to it?
[04:58] <jdong> no0tic: haha script kiddie land? ;-)
[04:58] <jdong> actually script kiddies have been my best source of information on these things
[04:59] <jdong> nothing beats firsthand
[04:59] <no0tic> jdong, :) something like "know your enemies" :)
[04:59] <jdong> indeed :)
[04:59] <pjeide> jdong: I love the perspective I've gained as a director in the IT industry coming from an experimental childhood during the big boom of the internet
[05:00] <no0tic> pjeide, where are you from?
[05:00] <pjeide> US
[05:00] <no0tic> I had no doubt :)
[05:01] <pjeide> no0tic: for why?
[05:01] <jdong> the land of the free and the home of the big mac :)
[05:01] <no0tic> here in italy such thing is simply impossibile
[05:02] <pjeide> no0tic: I'm curious, when you say such things, what are you referring to?
[05:03] <no0tic> pjeide, become "director in the IT industry" when you said before "I was 13..a decade ago"
[05:03] <pjeide> no0tic: I see.
[05:03] <pjeide> I weasel.
[05:03] <pjeide> And got lucky, I suppose.. right place at the right time with the right people kind of deal.
[05:04] <jdong> boy it feels good to download at 89mbit
[05:04] <no0tic> pjeide, here no one get direction roles being as young as us two
[05:04] <pjeide> jdong: that as well has me curious :)
[05:04] <no0tic> pjeide, yes :)
[05:04] <jdong> pjeide: we own bandwidth on the east coast man ;-)
[05:05] <pjeide> jdong: Where're you at?
[05:05] <jdong> pjeide: <IP_ADDRESS>/8 :)
[05:05] <pjeide>  *stump*
[05:05] <jdong> surely the director of IT can look up a whois database ;-)
[05:05] <no0tic> :)
[05:06] <pjeide> hmm
[05:06] <no0tic> jdong, wow, mit :)
[05:07] <jdong> no0tic: the one and only Hell on east coast :)
[05:07] <pjeide> shoot, you got there first
[05:07] <pjeide> I was simply trying to rephrase an earlier statement
[05:07] <pjeide> when I say director in the IT industry
[05:07] <pjeide> gosh
[05:08] <jdong> no0tic: the limits to my bandwidth are (1) the number of network cards I have (2) the number of cables I can find :)
[05:08] <no0tic> jdong, lol
[05:09] <no0tic> jdong, University of Pisa, where I study, owns a large part of italian bandwidth and controls italian backbone, I can imagine :)
[05:10] <pjeide> Is "a director in the IT industry" an inappropriate way to describe yourself when you are IT Director for a an operation of 80 people in 2 states that manufacture business cards enmass but employ a total network of 60 workstations, 7 servers and over 400 databases?
[05:10] <jdong> no0tic: awesome, you probably  also have practically unlimited bandwidth at your hands :)
[05:10] <jdong> pjeide: I believe that's well qualified
[05:10] <jdong> pjeide: as long as you're not the guy telling me how to set up a SMTP server starting with "Well you choose the Exchange icon from MMC's left pane...."
[05:11] <no0tic> :D
[05:11] <jdong> (yes I've got that once)
[05:11] <pjeide> ;-)
[05:11] <pjeide> jdong: The majority of my work since I took the position about 4 months ago has been software development to interface with our databases
[05:12] <pjeide> our proprietary software is inept and malnourished.. we've tons of data and few tools to access it efficiently and intuitively
[05:12] <pjeide> jdong: plus a few tools to save the typesettings a few thousand keystrokes a day :)
[05:12] <jdong> sounds like fun :)
[05:13] <pjeide> it beats a sharp stick in the eye, for certain.
[05:13] <pjeide> jdong: What has you at MIT?
[05:14] <jdong> pjeide: an undergraduate degree in electrical eng and comp sci :)
[05:15] <jdong> pjeide: hopefully follow up with a PHD in the same should this institute accept :)
[05:15] <pjeide> jdong: congratulations, good work
[05:16] <jdong> ha don't congratulate too early ;-)
[05:16] <pjeide> EE/CS combined major or double?
[05:16] <jdong> it is a single major here (Course VI as we refer to it)
[05:16] <jdong> everything around here gets a number
[05:16] <pjeide> how old are you?
[05:16] <jdong> 19
[05:17] <jdong> it's a weird place of culture -- you never hear cdr and car used as verbs anywhere else :)
[05:17] <no0tic> :)
[05:17] <pjeide> jdong: Boston is a very fun city
[05:17] <pjeide> my brother had a place up in Rockport and a little apartment in Slummerville
[05:17] <jdong> but weeks into my first term, I had someone ask me casually to "cdr down this list of pizza places to find one open at 4AM"
[05:18] <pjeide> ptt3017
[05:18] <no0tic> jdong, so you could car there?
[05:18] <jdong> no0tic: with the pun intact, yeah :P
[05:19] <jdong> though I am sadly currently without car.... and dearly miss it too :)
[05:22] <pjeide> damn you using acronyms that I am not familiar with in sentences casually :\
[05:22] <pjeide> i must inquire
[05:22] <pjeide> cdr? car?
[05:23] <jdong> pjeide: LISP commands :)
[05:24] <pjeide> mmm
[05:24] <jdong> pjeide: CAR returns the first item of a list, while CDR returns all but the first items of a list as another list
[05:24] <pjeide> jdong: ty
[05:24] <jdong> pjeide: so a recursive combination of CDR and CAR is used to go down and retrieve items from a list :)
[05:25] <pjeide> Is LISP MIT prereq? :P
[05:25] <jdong> pjeide: for half a decade, the majority of the programming theory classes were done in LISP
[05:26] <pjeide> wow
[05:26] <jdong> pjeide: that is slowly changing though -- this year we officially started using Python for the introductory 6.01 class
[05:26] <pjeide> I'm sure you get to see all types of creative implimentations on campus there
[05:26] <jdong> pjeide: the previous 6.001 (LISP/SCHEME) class's final project was to actually write a SCHEME interpretor
[05:26] <jdong> in SCHEME.
[05:27] <jdong> the new 6.01 class is cool because it's much more of a hybrid between EE and CS
[05:27] <jdong> we work with Python controlled robots :)
[05:27] <pjeide> jdong: that is sweet
[05:27] <pjeide> too sweet
[05:27] <pjeide> Did you know python walking onto campus?
[05:27] <jdong> yeah, first term students get everything: learning python, OOP, resistor networks, op-amps, feedback controllers, stochiastic hidden-markov model decision making....
[05:28] <jdong> pjeide: I did, mostly from Ubuntu related work
[05:28] <no0tic> wow
[05:28] <no0tic> incredible
[05:29] <jdong> of course it's *very* lightly touching on each topic...
[05:29] <jdong> but it is great at giving you a 8-week taste of EECS
[05:29] <no0tic> ah :)
[05:29] <jdong> so you can decide if it's a good major for you or not
[05:29] <pjeide> very interesting
[05:29] <no0tic> amazing
[05:30] <pjeide> no doubt ;-)
[05:30] <jdong> it's really a nice school, nice curriculum, interesting faculty
[09:05] <Tm_T> pjeide: hi
[09:09] <pjeide> Tm_T: hello
[09:11] <Tm_T> pjeide: something still we can help you with?
[09:13] <nalioth> Tm_T: something still we can help you with?
[09:15] <Tm_T> nalioth: sure
[09:16] <Tm_T> can you hug me, it's bit chilly out here
[09:17]  * nalioth sets Tm_T on fire
[09:17] <Tm_T> thank you sir
[09:18]  * nalioth wraps an aluminized survival blanket around Tm_T
[09:18] <pjeide> Tm_T: I was conversating earlier, should I not idle in the ops channel?
[09:19] <nalioth> pjeide: we don't recommend it
[09:19]  * pjeide waves
[09:22] <pjeide> nalioth: to be clear, do you not recommend it, or do you recommend against it?
[09:22] <pjeide> I found stimulating conversation here and enjoy the stay.
[09:23] <pjeide> Then again, stimulating conversation on a channel for operator/abuse questions only may be slight OT?
[09:23] <pjeide> sorry to be a bother
[09:23] <nalioth> pjeide: see the /topic please
[09:23] <Tm_T> erm
[09:35]  * Seeker` wonders if jdong could have gotten away with "(print (eval ( read)))" for a SCHEME interpreter written in SCHEME
[11:47] <Amaranth> !paste
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[12:39] <DGJ> hi, just a quick message to let you know that overnight, somebody called "barbecue" has been offering files called "mirc.ini", not sure what it is, but, just thought i'd let you know, it may not have been somebody in #ubuntu, but i'm only in that channel and #ubuntu-uk, i'm assuming its something unwanted and deleting anyway
[12:42] <Tm_T> DGJ: IIRC dealt with
[12:43] <Pici> DGJ: Yes, it was dealt with when it happened last night
[12:43] <DGJ> Tm_T, ok, thanks, just found that looking through the logs, thanks anyway
[12:43] <Tm_T> :)
[15:21] <jussi01> can someone remind me how to make chanserv not veto my mode settings? ie. in my own channel (#dib5sn) I just set to -c and chanserve turned it back on again?
[15:24] <Pici> jussi01: hav you asked in #freenode?
[15:24] <jussi01> Pici: nope.. not yet... ;)
[15:50] <PriceChild> jussi01, chanserv set channel mlock
[15:51] <jussi01> PriceChild: thanks. I got the info from #freenode :D
[15:53] <PriceChild> Just had an interview for "computer repair guy" and I'm so glad I use linux after some of the questions given...
[15:53] <jussi01> hahahah...nice
[15:53] <jussi01> I can imagine...
[16:11] <Mez> PriceChild, examples?
[16:12] <PriceChild> He was just giving such vague questions...
[16:12] <PriceChild> What would you do if a computer just endlessely rebooted?
[16:12] <Mez> and your answer?
[16:13] <PriceChild> I didn't know where on earth to begin... it depends completely on at what point in the process it reboots
[16:13] <Mez> too true ;)
[16:13] <Mez> good answer
[16:14] <PriceChild> Never gonna get the job though.
[16:14] <PriceChild> at least I got to the interview stage though woo!
[16:15] <PriceChild> uu CC meeting
[16:15] <Hobbsee> yeah
[16:16]  * Hobbsee has given scottk her ammunition for it.
[16:16] <PriceChild> Hmm a couple of people asked me for cheerleading... *looks through list*
[16:16] <Hobbsee> no, i'm anti-cheerleading.
[16:16] <Pici> That was an odd mass-join
[16:16] <PriceChild> Hobbsee, sarcastically?
[16:16] <PriceChild> Pici, where?
[16:17] <Pici> PriceChild: #ubuntu, about 5 people from <IP_ADDRESS> came in at once
[16:17] <Pici> spoke some spanish, I !es-ed them and they left.
[16:17] <Pici> floodbots announced it though
[16:17] <PriceChild> There's a lot more than 5
[16:18] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: absolutley not
[16:18] <PriceChild> Pici, pick up your shield and emp cannon
[16:19] <Pici> PriceChild: hm.  I guess I misread my log
[16:19] <PriceChild> *wonders if any of them are still left inside*
[16:19] <Pici> Just one, retsam
[16:59]  * ikonia hugs pici
[17:03] <Seeker`> ikonia: erm...?
[17:03] <ikonia> he's a saviour in #ubuntu today
[17:03] <Seeker`> ah, ok
[17:03] <Seeker`> ikonia: how are you today?
[17:04] <ikonia> tired
[17:04] <ikonia> about to leave for home
[17:04] <Pici> Well, theres a rash of crazy people today
[17:04] <Seeker`> ikonia: cool. I've got another hour of lectures, and then I need to try to get home. The bus queues aren't nice.
[17:05] <ikonia> no, wave if you see me drive past and I'll give you a lift
[17:05] <Gary> more crazy people?
[17:05] <Gary> meh
[17:05] <Seeker`> I may just walk down widcombe hill
[17:06] <Gary> Seeker`, I'm int he bar already - left site office and too late to go to the main office
[17:06] <Seeker`> heh, pub may be a good idea :)
[17:41]  * RainCT would like a cloak :D
[17:41] <somerville32> lol
[17:42] <PriceChild> RainCT, hey there :)
[17:42] <RainCT> hi :)
[17:42] <PriceChild> We'd appreciate it if you could wait until you're accepted into ubuntu-members on launchpad.. which they probably haven't done yet?
[17:43] <RainCT> ok, np. how much does this take usually?
[17:45] <PriceChild> poke one of the CC members
[17:52] <PriceChild> 793 proposed members
[17:52] <PriceChild> madness
[17:53] <RainCT> lol
[17:54] <PriceChild> in the mean tmie
[17:54] <PriceChild> RainCT, make sure you have two registered nicknames, linked together with an email set.
[17:54] <PriceChild> !register
[17:54] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[17:56] <RainCT> PriceChild: yeh, I've RainCT, RainC1 and UbuCat (#ubuntu-cat's IRC bot)
[17:56] <RainCT> why should it be two?
[17:56] <PriceChild> DON'T link the bot.
[17:56] <PriceChild> Bots should *never* be seen wearing the ubuntu/member cloak.
[17:57] <PriceChild> approved bots get an ubuntu/bot cloak
[17:57] <PriceChild> two so that if you forget the password on the first, you can identify with the second, /nick, and set the password to recover.
[17:57] <PriceChild> the email so that if you forget both passwords, you can get a staffer to reset it.
[17:58] <PriceChild> but we'd rather not bother a staffer
[17:58] <RainCT> ah ok
[17:59] <PriceChild> because secretly they have a list... which they put you on if you have to bother them with password resets.... and you don't want to know what happens if you get put ont he list twice! :O
[17:59] <somerville32> 0_o
[18:00] <no0tic> lol
[18:00] <PriceChild> no0tic, did you get it too? :)
[18:00] <no0tic> yes :)
[18:00] <RainCT> haha
[18:01] <PriceChild> wooo congrats no0tic.
[18:01] <no0tic> thanks :) LjL spent a word for me :)
[18:02] <RainCT> gratz no0tic :)
[18:02] <no0tic> you too
[18:04] <no0tic> PriceChild, all requirements are met for the cloak, now ;)
[18:04] <PriceChild> no0tic, not quite... has launchpad caught up?
[18:04] <no0tic> PriceChild, ah, yes I'm one of the 793 pending members :)
[18:04] <PriceChild> Sorry but you'll have to be patient until that's sorted :)
[18:04] <no0tic> PriceChild, I'll wait :)
[18:04] <no0tic> np
[18:08] <RainCT> how can I unlink the bot (if possible without having to login as him)?
[18:08] <no0tic> /ns unlink nick password
[18:27]  * RainCT forgot to say that the bot is now unlinked
[18:28] <PriceChild> cool
[19:13] <RainCT> PriceChild: :D
[19:15]  * Seeker` wonders if he should apply for membership
[19:35]  * RainCT pings whoever ;P
[19:36] <Pici> RainCT: Were you accepted into the launchpad group?
[19:36] <RainCT> yeh :)
[19:37] <ompaul> Seeker`, which group?
[19:37] <Seeker`> ompaul: huh?
[19:37] <RainCT> ~ubuntumembers
[19:38] <ompaul> Seeker`, you could be asking for ubuntu-irc
[19:38] <Gary> nah, thats just me ompaul
[19:38] <Seeker`> ompaul: I mean "Ubuntu" membership - I'm already a member of -irc
[19:42] <RainCT> Pici: yes
[19:43] <Pici> RainCT: I can't approve you anyway, just asking
[19:44] <RainCT> Pici: ah lol
[19:46] <Gary> cool, we can talk about pricey now
[19:47] <Daviey> he's teh suck, apparently
[19:47] <Daviey> doh!
[19:47] <Gary> shh, he is back now
[19:47] <Pici> 14:46:51 <Gary> cool, we can talk about pricey now
[19:47] <Daviey> cheers Pici
[19:47]  * Gary throws a pie at Pici for grassing him in
[19:48] <Daviey> Pici is now off my xmas card list...
[19:48] <PriceChild> :)
[19:48] <Pici> :((
[19:48] <PriceChild> no0tic, you want a member cloak too?
[19:48] <ompaul> Daviey, was he ever on it?
[19:48] <Gary> I want a superman cloak
[19:49] <ompaul>  /cs  k gary - fly like the wind -
[19:49] <ompaul> :P
[19:49] <Gary> x
[19:49] <Gary> yay, we can talk about old uncle ompaul now
[19:49] <crdlb> Gary: that wasn't very nice!
[19:49] <Gary> :-)
[19:50] <Daviey> !- Gary [n=clark_kent@superhero/superman] has joined #ubuntu-ops
[19:50] <Pici> hehe
[19:50] <Gary> crdlb, he loves me really
[19:50] <RainCT> xD
[19:51]  * Gary watches Pici
[20:11] <ikonia> howdy
[20:11]  * Daviey watches Gary watch Pici
[20:12]  * Seeker` watches Daviey watching...
[20:22]  * RainCT is still waiting :)
[20:24] <PriceChild> RainCT, for cloak?
[20:24] <RainCT> PriceChild: yep
[20:25] <PriceChild> RainCT, sorry, gotta wait on freenode to sort out our new group contact form, until then we've got a bottleneck with nalioth who's afk.
[20:25] <Gary> you can have a colchester-lug/member cloak if you like :p
[20:25] <RainCT> Gary: lol
[20:26]  * jussi01 takes a picture of Seeker` watching Daviey watching Gary watching Pici
[20:27] <RainCT> PriceChild: oh, well..
[20:28]  * RainCT hasn't understood much of what Price said but it sounds bad heh
[20:29] <Seeker`> RainCT: There is a lot of red tape around at the moment. nal ioth  could fix it (i think), but he is AFK
[20:30] <RainCT> «I'm away, messages are logged, screen is detached.  How do you detach a screen?  :P
[20:35] <ompaul> Seeker`, the fact that PriceChild et al are not recognised
[20:36] <ompaul> Seeker`, the fact that dublin in hurling is not a great prospect
[20:36] <ompaul> Seeker`, the fact that it is 7oC and raining outside
[20:36] <Seeker`> :(
[20:37] <jussi01> ompaul: and grey?
[20:37] <ompaul> jussi01, no - it is night time
[20:37] <jussi01> ompaul: yeah... but it would be...
[20:38] <ompaul> jussi01, I am listening to The Clash London Calling (live) so outside don't matter ;-)
[20:39] <jussi01> ompaul: :D
[20:48] <ubotu> In ubotu, Paddy_EIRE said: PICNIC is Problem in chair not in computer! ;)
[20:48] <ubotu> In ubotu, pike_ said: recover is Deleted or lost files can be recovered from failed or formatted drives and partitions, cdroms and memory cards using the free-libre software available in the Ubuntu repositories. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[20:48] <ubotu> In ubotu, Profanephobia said: !sexy is bow chicka bow wow
[20:52] <juliank> As I am a Member now, could I get a Member cloak?
[20:54] <Daviey> you'll have to paypal me $30
[20:56] <jussi01> juliank: I beleive there are a few small issues atm. I suggest coming back in at least a few hours.
[20:59] <ompaul> jussi01, the thing is that unless PriceChild et al know about it which people can do by saying stuff here they don't need to be here for this
[20:59] <ompaul> juliank, I strongly suggest you go to the freenode faq and use the nick setup stuff so that you can use the cloak no matter what
[21:00] <ompaul> juliank, this includes setting up a private email address other than your ubuntu.com one, so staff can be contacted if you need a password changed for IRC access
[21:01] <jussi01> ompaul: I was just trying to convey what PriceChild said earlier... :(
[21:01] <PriceChild> !register | juliank
[21:01] <ubotu> juliank: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[21:01] <PriceChild> juliank, set up two registered nicknames linked together and an email
[21:01]  * ompaul clicks on PriceChild
[21:05] <juliank> PriceChild: I currently have 3 nicks registered: juliank, juliank0 and jak-software, all linked. None has been identified to the ubuntu.com adress yet. Do I need to have one nick registered with the ubuntu.com adress? (@ubuntu.com e-mail is not working yet)
[21:05] <PriceChild> juliank, nope just a standard email is fine.
[21:06] <nalioth> juliank: it takes a bit of time after a CC meeting for these things to happen
[21:06] <PriceChild> nalioth, they've all been added to ubuntu members. The CC is speedy this time around.
[21:06] <nalioth> as was mentioned earlier, taking the dog out to the park for a bit might be in order
[21:06] <PriceChild> Pardon?
[21:08] <PriceChild> nalioth, pardon?
[21:10] <somerville32> PriceChild, He is saying that it takes time for things to happen, might as well take your dog for a walk :P
[21:11] <PriceChild> somerville32, i'm not sure what needs to happen...
[21:11] <somerville32> PriceChild, They are talking about cloaks
[21:12] <PriceChild> somerville32, I'm on the IRC Council... I can authorise cloaks.
[21:12] <somerville32> PriceChild, Good for you? :P
[21:12] <RainCT> heh
[21:14] <PriceChild> somerville32, what I am trying to say, is that everything is there that I can see for one of us to get the cloak set up... no blockers on launchpad. I am confused what nal is referring to.
[21:19] <PriceChild> We'll get the cloaks done asap.
[21:20] <somerville32> Why is Freenode so anal anyhow?
[21:21] <ompaul> somerville32, you should really bring your common sense to IRC
[21:21] <somerville32> ompaul, What is wrong with that question?
[21:21] <ompaul> you assume way more than is credible
[21:22] <somerville32> I would just assume that Freenode staff would be able to look at the website as a credible source of info and trust the members of the IRC Council and act upon their requests.
[21:22] <somerville32> But for some reason, it doesn't work like that.
[21:23] <PriceChild> somerville32, we're working on it, it will get sorted as soon as it can be done.
[21:23] <PriceChild> Until then, the current system has coped for several years, and will continue to cope for a short while longer.
[21:39] <ikonia> evening chaps
[21:41] <ompaul> ikonia, I say
[21:41] <ikonia> hello ompaul
[21:41] <ompaul> how the source code are you
[21:42] <somerville32> Ok
[21:42]  * ompaul gets spooky enough to scare himself
[21:42] <somerville32> Xchat is using 90% CPU, time to restart it :/
[21:43] <ikonia> ompaul: void_main();
[21:43] <ompaul> I could say something bitter and twisted
[21:43] <ompaul> lemon with gin
[21:44] <jdong> :)
[21:45] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[21:45] <ikonia> I'm drinking mojito
[21:47] <effie_jayx> ikonia,  envy... :(
[21:47] <ikonia> effie_jayx: its great, I'm almost out though
[21:47] <effie_jayx> I know it's great...
[21:48] <ompaul> !envy  | effie_jayx
[21:48] <ubotu> effie_jayx: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[21:48] <jdong> oh screw you all... I can be drafted anyday yet I can't have a nice drink :P
[21:48] <ikonia> can someone step in and give adan6 a kick please, a/s/l style chat
[21:48] <ikonia> adnan6
[21:49] <effie_jayx> hah
[21:49] <ikonia> I want girls etc
[21:49] <effie_jayx> I'm gonna fix me a drink...
[21:50] <ikonia> ta
[21:50] <ikonia> he's back as adnan7
[21:50] <ikonia> ta
[21:50] <ompaul> ikonia, so I sat back and knows he would be puzzled by not able to send to channel
[21:51] <ompaul> then got rid of him
[21:51] <ikonia> :)
[21:51] <ompaul> ikonia, any comment on the pretenders?
[21:51] <ompaul> woops wrong place
[21:51] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[21:52] <jdong> aww and it wasn't even that privately revealing of an -ECHANNEL
[21:52] <jdong> I recall that time when Eric Sandeen of XFS fame pasted his entire boarding pass into #xfs
[21:53] <tonyyarusso> what's private about a boarding pass?
[21:53] <tonyyarusso> unless you don't want people to know you're going somewhere
[21:54] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: it was inadvertant spam
[21:55] <tonyyarusso> Well that's true
[21:57] <jdong> tonyyarusso: it has frequent flier number, confirmation number, name, e-tkt number, etc
[21:57] <jdong> tonyyarusso: I'm quite sure it's not hard to bypass security given this information, at least in the USA
[21:57] <tonyyarusso> jdong: mine didn't have our FF # - hmm
[21:57] <tonyyarusso> jdong: It's not hard to bypass security regardless ;)
[21:57] <jdong> tonyyarusso: well it's harder to get behind the gate and onto a plane without this information
[21:58] <jdong> tonyyarusso: but I'd expect if you had a valid boarding pass barcode, a bit of photoshop or even PDF-editing can easily get you onto a plane.
[21:58] <jdong> tonyyarusso: no guarantees what will happen when the real guy shows up ;-)
[21:58] <tonyyarusso> jdong: They don't check it for accuracy - you just need a boarding pass that looks real.  The numbers / barcodes are never checked / scanned.
[21:58] <ompaul> jdong, do they not do mag strip ones?
[21:58] <jdong> ompaul: no, they're barcoded these days so you can print them online
[21:58] <ompaul> ack
[21:58] <jdong> tonyyarusso: recently I've had all mine scanned at the boarding gate
[21:59] <jdong> tonyyarusso: TSA's checkpoint doesn't use any electronic scanners though.
[21:59] <jdong> tonyyarusso: a spoofed name will get you through TSA
[21:59] <tonyyarusso> jdong: The barcodes are checked by the airlines prior to boarding, yes, but never by airport security to get past the clearance
[21:59] <tonyyarusso> yeah
[21:59] <jdong> tonyyarusso: and then pull out ANOTHER boarding pass with the original person's name for the boarding gate
[21:59] <jdong> I think this is failproof
[21:59] <jdong> unless the original guy shows up demanding to know why he "boarded" already
[21:59] <jdong> then you're screwed
[22:00]  * jdong gets out large Nike bag and club from trunk... ;-)
[22:00] <tonyyarusso> jdong: a terrorist can easily scrounge up the $300 for a legitimate plane ticket - the security checkpoint is the only concern.
[22:01] <jdong> tonyyarusso: I've just recently taken a concerning number of things through as carry-on.... the whole situation scares me
[22:02] <jdong> tonyyarusso: but they *DID* notice my toothpaste was 5oz!
[22:02] <jdong> thank god.
[22:02] <jdong> who knows what I could've done with an extra ounce of toothpaste.
[22:02] <tonyyarusso> jdong: Have I mentioned yet the time I went through the largest airport in Canada and boarded a good-size plane on an international flight into one of the largest airports in the USA and never had security check my passport, boarding pass, or anything else, other than noting that I was white and waving at me?
[22:02] <tonyyarusso> jdong: 2oz - the limit is 3 lately.
[22:03] <jdong> tonyyarusso: not surprising at all
[22:03] <jdong> tonyyarusso: is that 3oz or 3 fl. oz? ;-)
[22:03] <jdong> :D
[22:03] <jdong> boy that'd be a fun argument for the gate.
[22:03] <tonyyarusso> hehe, dunno
[22:04] <tonyyarusso> My latest customs check did actually look at the passport, but the entire conversation consisted of this:
[22:04] <jdong> tonyyarusso: I once inadvertently brought a diamond-coated endmill through an entire plane ride...
[22:04] <jdong> tonyyarusso: and when I got myself I shredded my fingers while trying to figure out what that pointy thing in the side pocket was...
[22:04] <jdong> s/myself/home/
[22:04] <tonyyarusso> "How long were you in Canada?"  'Since Wednesday'  "What were you doing there?"  'Visiting friends'  "How long were you there again?"  'Err, that's what, five days?'  "Okay, have a nice day"
[22:05] <tonyyarusso> That's flying though.  Driving across the border is way more fun.
[22:05] <jdong> "fun" :)
[22:05] <tonyyarusso> "So, any bodies or anything in the back there?"  'Nope'  "Okay, carry on"
[22:06] <jdong> tonyyarusso: that's because you're white :)
[22:06] <tonyyarusso> (The back seat was piled high with stuff so they couldn't tell)
[22:06] <tonyyarusso> jdong: yup
[22:06] <jdong> tonyyarusso: my experiences with driving across the border are quite different :)
[22:06] <jdong> tonyyarusso: I had to produce an MIT admissions document for them to let me through from MI -> MA
[22:06] <jdong> I didn't see why it was relevant to compare my admissions letter to my ID.
[22:07] <jdong> but you know the drill... argue with them and you're sitting in a little questioning cell for the rest of that day.
[22:07] <tonyyarusso> I also once had a conversation with a border guard about how it would be silly for me to bring pot into Canada, because it's cheaper there, practically legal, and of higher quality, so bringing it from the US would make no sense.  Those are the border guard's words, not mine.
[22:07] <jdong> lol
[22:07] <tonyyarusso> jdong: err, MI > MA?
[22:07] <Seeker`> jdong: lo
[22:08] <jdong> tonyyarusso: yeah, fastest way from MI to MA, I thought, was through canada
[22:08] <jdong> tonyyarusso: turns out I was sorely wrong
[22:08] <tonyyarusso> jdong: what do you mean by MI?
[22:08] <jdong> tonyyarusso: next time I will take the domestic long way.
[22:08] <jdong> michigan.
[22:08] <tonyyarusso> oh, right, I see.
[22:08]  * tonyyarusso was trying to figure out what border you meant
[22:09] <tonyyarusso> what's your citizenship?
[22:09] <jdong> tonyyarusso: USA
[22:09] <jdong> tonyyarusso: but that doesn't matter when you don't look American :)
[22:09] <tonyyarusso> Then they shouldn't have made you produce the admissions letter at all.  If you hold a passport, that's all you need to re-enter.
[22:10] <jdong> tonyyarusso: noooo, they need to check why I'm entering the great country of moose and eskimos....
[22:10] <tonyyarusso> You could definitely have made a stink about that if you wanted to
[22:10] <tonyyarusso> "To visit" is all you need to say to enter Canada.
[22:10] <jdong> and I was stupid enough to say "on my way to school"
[22:10] <Seeker`> jdong: You were talking about a SCHEME interpreter written in SCHEME earlier - would (print (eval (read))) have worked?
[22:10] <jdong> Seeker`: ha. no. :)
[22:10] <tonyyarusso> otherwise they think you mean a Canadian school, and then you do need different documentation
[22:11] <tonyyarusso> (btw, Canada defines a "visit" not needing additional docs as anything under 6 months)
[22:14] <tonyyarusso> hehe
[22:14] <tonyyarusso> I have a four-hour break between classes, so I usually just chill on campus in the room my earlier class met in.
[22:14] <tonyyarusso> People wander in and think I'm faculty.  :P
[22:14] <jdong> haha you should pretend to be :)
[22:15] <tonyyarusso> That'd be awesome.  I could set up an internship or something.
[22:17]  * mneptok and woo now just get waved through at the tiny Quebec crossings
[22:17] <mneptok> "Oh, it's those Americans again. He gets chatty. Just smile and wave them past."
[22:18] <somerville32> Which direction are you going?
[22:18] <mneptok> both ways.
[22:18] <somerville32> :S
[22:19] <mneptok> if we ever have trouble, it's usually enterig the US, oddly.
[22:19] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: lol
[22:19] <somerville32> mneptok, Did you just enter or leave Quebec?
[22:19] <mneptok> somerville32: we cross back and forth a few times per month.
[22:19] <tonyyarusso> The US guards like to do things for show.  Like take the apple out of my lunch.  And ignore the ax and cans of explosives in the back.
[22:20] <somerville32> mneptok, I'm trying to make a joke, dammit! :P
[22:20] <mneptok> we had a US guard get pissy about the 2 of us bringing >US$10K in.
[22:21] <mneptok> somerville32: i need a better breadcrumb trail.
[22:21] <tonyyarusso> Why?  Did you not have the paperwork you needed?
[22:21] <mneptok> we don't need paperwork
[22:21] <mneptok> we each had <US$10K
[22:21] <mneptok> the total is irrelevant
[22:21] <Pici> We're americans, we dont need no stinkin paperwork
[22:21] <somerville32> I was going to say that they're probably thinking "Oh, c'est ces Américains encore. Il obtient bavard. Juste sourire et les onduler le passé. " and not "Oh, it's those Americans again. He gets chatty. Just smile and wave them past."
[22:21] <tonyyarusso> oh
[22:21] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: you're right in that case.
[22:22] <mneptok> somerville32: peut etre. mais je pense la femme je connait est Anglophone.
[22:23] <somerville32> Etait-elle attrayante ?
[22:24] <mneptok> tonyyarusso: yup. and when the "RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAY!" uniform-ape got a bit of push-back, accompanied by the "you realize this is actianable?" question, he backed right down.
[22:24] <somerville32> lol
[22:24] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: muahaha.  I love making US gov't officials feel dumb.
[22:25] <mneptok> somerville32: moyen age. cinquante-cinq? soixante?
[22:25] <PriceChild> !en
[22:25] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[22:25] <PriceChild> *grins*
[22:25] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: ??
[22:25] <tonyyarusso> oh
[22:25]  * tonyyarusso is slow
[22:25] <somerville32> lol
[22:25] <somerville32> tonyyarusso, We're talking French :P
[22:26] <Pici> oui?
[22:26] <somerville32> yes.
[22:26] <tonyyarusso> I was in Canada again last week - I guess I got used to seeing both
[22:26]  * somerville32 loves Canada.
[22:27] <mneptok> i stand on guard for cheese.
[22:27] <mneptok> i wonder what i should sing for the first line?
[22:28] <mneptok> "o canada! my home and ... place i have a work permit ..."
[22:28] <somerville32> :]
[22:28] <ompaul> mneptok, mneptok, mneptok, so tell me if it is swiss cheese it comes in two varieties there and not there or 1 and 0 so it is the binary cheese as it comes in lumps we could could them blobs you can see where this is going
[22:28] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: haha
[22:28] <tonyyarusso> mneptok: Can you get me one?  ;)
[22:29] <ompaul> s/could could/could call/
[22:30] <tonyyarusso> Actually, I have a study permit that lists its expiration as April 30 2010, so I can get past border folks and whatnot easily enough, even though I'm not actually fulfilling the stipulation that I remain at the institution listed on it at the moment
[22:30] <mneptok> ompaul: "Can I have your cheese recipe?" "Check that EULA."
[22:45] <effie_jayx> ohhh god
[22:45] <effie_jayx> hehhee no spacebar time in offtopic
[22:58] <ompaul> mneptok, cheese for Freedom Lovers!
[22:58] <ompaul> mneptok, and so was born the food labelling industry
[23:07] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-devel, Keybuk said: !ogra is looks like a pirate :-)
[23:07] <PriceChild> *grins*
[23:08] <Keybuk> can we make ubotu not answer factoids on ubuntu-devel/
[23:08] <PriceChild> not easily
[23:08] <PriceChild> we'll live ;)
[23:08] <jdong> lol
[23:08] <jdong> Keybuk abusing the bot ;-)
[23:08] <PriceChild> Does he have a cutlass?
[23:08] <PriceChild> jdong, that's not an excuse for you to ;)
[23:09] <jdong> :)
[23:10] <Keybuk> hmm,
[23:10] <Keybuk> /msg chanserv kick #ubuntu-devel ubotu
[23:10] <Keybuk> oops
[23:10] <Keybuk> :-)
[23:10] <nalioth> anyone know a batch image processor that reduces pix to web colors only?
[23:12] <ompaul> nalioth, imagemagik - function called mogrify iirc
[23:12] <ompaul> man mogrify for detail (or removing detail)
[23:13] <nalioth> ompaul: i use mogrify to resize now (guess i need to read more about it to reduce the data)
[23:19]  * Keybuk notes that his factoid didn't get added :-(
[23:19] <mneptok> %btlogin
[23:19] <PriceChild> Try resubmitting it.
[23:19] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-devel, Keybuk said: !ogra is looks like a pirate :-)
[23:19] <mneptok> ubotu: ogra is <reply>ogra looks like a pirate!
[23:19] <ubotu> I'll remember that, mneptok
[23:19] <mneptok> !ogra
[23:19] <ubotu> ogra looks like a pirate!
[23:20] <jdong> ha and we start with the random factoid season again :)
[23:20] <PriceChild> !jdong
[23:20] <mneptok> jdong: you've obviously never met ogra
 jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK!
[23:20] <mneptok> it's hardly random
[23:21] <somerville32> lol
[23:21] <Keybuk> bot abuse is basically IRC sport
[23:21] <Keybuk> it's going to be in the 2012 olympics
[23:22] <somerville32> :)
[23:22]  * somerville32 hugs Keybuk
[23:22] <mneptok> it was going to be in the next Olympics, but bots were denied PRC visas
[23:22] <mneptok> ubotu: .tw?
[23:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tw? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:22] <mneptok> ?tw
[23:22] <mneptok> bah
[23:22] <mneptok> !tw
[23:22] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[23:22] <mneptok> and that's why the visas were denied
[23:26] <jdong> !cn
[23:26] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[23:26] <jdong> !-cn
[23:26] <ubotu> cn aliases: zh, tw, chinese, china - added by ompaul on 2006-06-18 00:52:45
[23:26] <nalioth> 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[23:26] <jdong> *grins* taiwan is aliased to china :)
[23:26] <nalioth> ქართული ენაზე დახმარების მიღებისთვის გთხოვთ შემობრძანდით #ubuntu-ge -ზე ~ For Georgian language support, please join #ubuntu-ge
[23:27] <Seeker`> putty REALLY doesn't like that
[23:27] <jdong> :)
[23:28] <Seeker`> you broke my title bar :(
[23:28] <jdong> giggity...
[23:28] <tonyyarusso> serves you right Seeker`
[23:30] <Seeker`> tonyyarusso: :(
[23:36] <ikonia> !load
[23:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about load - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:37] <RainCT> good night