[00:00] <tekteen> u do not have a network card?
[00:00] <ToddEDM> i do.. its a linksys WMP54G
[00:00] <tekteen> no, wired
[00:01] <ToddEDM> oh , nope
[00:01] <BanisterKelly> Do I need to restart samba?
[00:01] <tekteen> ok
[00:01] <tekteen> if you want I will try to google
[00:01] <ToddEDM> please
[00:01] <tekteen> one sec
[00:02] <Murchadh> BanisterKelly: /etc/init.d/samba restart
[00:02] <BanisterKelly> Thank you
[00:02] <Murchadh> BanisterKelly: NP, hope you get it working.
[00:03] <BanisterKelly> I tried to access the shared folder and its asking for a password.
[00:04] <BanisterKelly> \\Optiplex\IPC$
[00:04] <BanisterKelly> At least it trying.  lol
[00:05] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: Linux experts?
[00:05] <tekteen> ToddEDM: quick question: Does it ask if you want to install from "a local folder or the internet"?
[00:06] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: afaik, this channel is full of them. Have you tried the ubuntu forums?
[00:06] <Murchadh> BanisterKelly: Check in the smb.conf file under Authentication if there is a ; in front of security = user. If not add it, restart samba and try again.
[00:07] <BanisterKelly> Okay.
[00:07] <ToddEDM> no tekteen
[00:07] <tekteen> ok
[00:07] <BanisterKelly> I really appreciate your help and putting up with me being new to this stuff.
[00:07] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: I have surfed the infinite waves of the net
[00:07] <tekteen> I can not believe you have no wired network
[00:07] <ToddEDM> lol
[00:08] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: I think the last thing left for me to do is to physically take it to a Linux tech for further inspection
[00:08] <ToddEDM> i could move my computer downstairs
[00:08] <ToddEDM> lol
[00:08] <ToddEDM> not really
[00:08] <BanisterKelly> Yes there is.
[00:08] <BanisterKelly> ; Security = User
[00:08] <BanisterKelly> ;   security = user
[00:09] <tekteen> ToddEDM: does it say what "package" it could not download?
[00:09] <ardchoille> jagcorvair: What exactly is the problem?
[00:09] <Murchadh> BanisterKelly: Again, not a secure solution, I'd advise reading up on samba if you plan to have it running long term. Samba should be hardened by creating users on the linux machine for all people who are going to access the shares.
[00:09] <Murchadh> BanisterKelly: What version of Kubuntu are you using?
[00:09] <BanisterKelly> 7.10
[00:10] <BanisterKelly> Live CD install
[00:10] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: For the life of me, I cannot figure out the DMA issue. Kaffeine is quite choppy.
[00:10] <ToddEDM> it says "The Software Source for the package    bcm43xx-fwcutter     is not enabled" when i try to enable the restricted driver
[00:10] <BanisterKelly> Been using for the past 2-3 days.
[00:10] <tekteen> !info bcm43xx-fwcutter
[00:10] <ubotu> bcm43xx-fwcutter: Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:006-3 (gutsy), package size 25 kB, installed size 116 kB
[00:10] <BanisterKelly> Not a bad OS just have to get used to it.
[00:10] <draik> ardchoille: Ok, had to disconnect from the net on friend's computer
[00:10] <tekteen> ok
[00:11] <BanisterKelly> I will admit has some great software selections
[00:11] <tekteen> one sec
[00:11] <ToddEDM> k
[00:11] <darkness_s> ToodEDM, open up adept _manager
[00:11] <ToddEDM> its open
[00:11] <darkness_s> go to adept--manage repositories
[00:11] <ToddEDM> ok
[00:12] <BanisterKelly> Networking Linux/Windows is just a temporary thing until I can get a DVD drive for the other PC.
[00:12] <BanisterKelly> About a week.
[00:12] <tekteen> 32 or 64 bit?
[00:12] <ToddEDM> 32
[00:12] <Murchadh> BanisterKelly: You may need to add the Workgroup name to the start of the smb.conf file.
[00:13] <tekteen> ToddEDM: first download this "http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/b/bcm43xx-fwcutter/bcm43xx-fwcutter_006-3_i386.deb"
[00:13] <darkness_s> ToddEDM: then check all the boxes in the Software Kubuntu tab.
[00:13] <ardchoille> draik: tbh, I would have given up on that a long time ago and either used another computer or replaced that drive.
[00:13] <tekteen> darkness_s: he has no wired network
[00:13] <darkness_s> tekteen: oh
[00:13] <darkness_s> ok
[00:14] <draik> ardchoille: His computer and I bought the drive not too long ago. I know it's not bad hardware, but I would like a new set of eyes of this "mission"
[00:14] <darkness_s> ToddEDM: listen to tekteen
[00:14] <tekteen> ToddEDM: then move it to the other computer (usb drive, cd, ect)
[00:14] <darkness_s> :)
[00:14] <tekteen> :-)
[00:14] <tekteen> lol
[00:14] <BanisterKelly> What was the restart command?
[00:15] <darkness_s> .    /etc/init.d/samba restart
[00:15] <BanisterKelly> Thank you
[00:15] <ToddEDM> ok i got it downloaded, i will be back,kids need me for a sec
[00:15] <tekteen> tell me when u r back
[00:15] <moope2> how do I stop alsa loading on boot?
[00:19] <tekteen> ToddEDM: u back?
[00:19] <BanisterKelly> This is as bas as trying to have 98 access XP.  lol
[00:19] <BanisterKelly> as bad
[00:23] <scrubb2000> Hello?
[00:23] <tekteen> hello
[00:23] <scrubb2000> I always like to check for signs of life before asking a question. =)
[00:23] <tekteen> ok
[00:24] <scrubb2000> Do you know what module(s) are needed to use a TV card? (Happauge PVR150)
[00:24] <scrubb2000> Or how can I check to see if linux already has it configured?
[00:24] <tekteen> I forgot. I can look it up
[00:25] <scrubb2000> Where does one look that up?
[00:25] <tekteen> google
[00:25] <scrubb2000> Oh.
[00:25]  * scrubb2000 smacks forehead
[00:25] <tekteen> :-)
[00:26] <scrubb2000> I just found linuxtv.org...I bet that'll be helpful.  heh heh
[00:26] <tekteen> it is called ivti
[00:26] <tekteen> itvt*
[00:27] <tekteen> ivtv*
[00:27] <tekteen> I have gone instane
[00:27] <tekteen> it is called ivtv
[00:27] <draik> Wow... so many broken keyboards today.
[00:28] <tekteen> ToddEDM: u back?
[00:30] <Murchadh> BanisterKelly: On the Windows PC, try giving the linux username and password that you normally logon to the kubuntu machine with. Other than that you may need to create a user on the kubuntu machine with the same username and password as the Windows PC. I gotta go for a while. If it's still giving you problems have a good read of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605. Good luck with it. Persevere, kubuntu rocks!
[00:30] <ToddEDM> yep, i just got it on my ipod shuffle(that went through the wash) and its installing on the desktop machine
[00:31] <ToddEDM> the old shuffle is good only for a USBstick now
[00:31] <tekteen> lol
[00:31] <tekteen> my usb stick has gone through wash and dry... TWICE
[00:32] <tekteen> I am 14 and leave stuff in my pockets
[00:32] <ToddEDM> lol
[00:32] <tekteen> the dryer is a good place to find pencils
[00:32] <crazy6> hrm, booting with "splash" makes X not work properly (black screen)
[00:32] <ToddEDM> sticks go good through the wash, but this ipod did not
[00:32] <scrubb2000> Washing it shouldn't be a problem since it's nonvolatile.
[00:33] <scrubb2000> Drying is more dicey...static discharge could kill it easily.
[00:33] <tekteen> ToddEDM: So... Does the wireless work?
[00:33] <ToddEDM> it was free with a cell phone anyways
[00:33] <ToddEDM> hold on a sec
[00:34] <ToddEDM> ok i went to enable the restricted driver.....
[00:35] <ToddEDM> now it wants me to locate the file, or download from internet
[00:36] <tekteen> does it just work. without that
[00:36] <stdin> tekteen: the bcm43xx-fwcutter needs to download the firmware from the net to install it (or install from a local file)
[00:36] <ToddEDM> maybe i should restart ?
[00:36] <tekteen> stdin: he install a deb of it
[00:36] <tekteen> yes
[00:36] <ToddEDM> yes i installed the deb
[00:36] <tekteen> try it
[00:36] <stdin> tekteen: yea, the deb install script downloads the file
[00:36] <tekteen> restart
[00:37] <tekteen> ok
[00:37] <tekteen> ToddEDM: nm
[00:37] <scrubb2000> This is weird.
[00:37] <ToddEDM> ok its restarting
[00:37] <ToddEDM> lol
[00:37] <stdin> tekteen, ToddEDM: it needs http://downloads.openwrt.org/sources/wl_apsta-<IP_ADDRESS>.o
[00:37] <scrubb2000> Linux seems to see my TV card is there, the firmware is present, the modules are loaded, but /dev/dvb/adapter* doesn't exist...
[00:37] <tekteen> ty stdin
[00:38] <scrubb2000> Anyone have any idea why, or how I can create it?
[00:39] <ciacon> hi all
[00:39] <tekteen> hi
[00:40] <flaccid> brb
[00:40] <ciacon> I have just installed my kubutu (again ;-(  ) and wanted to ask, what the meta-packages is called, that includes all the restricted formats, is called...
[00:41] <stdin> ciacon: kubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:41] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, KDE4 doesn't seem to quite ready yet
[00:41]  * stdin doesn't recall anyone saying KDE4 was ready
[00:42] <ToddEDM> restricted driver IN USE!
[00:42] <tekteen> YES!
[00:42] <tekteen> so have you tested it?
[00:42] <Dragnslcr> I didn't quite expect glaring bugs though
[00:42] <ToddEDM> just did..... cant get www.google up
[00:43] <Dragnslcr> Like the system tray showing up in the middle of the screen and apparently not movable
[00:43] <stdin> ToddEDM: have you activated the network, with network manager?
[00:43] <scrubb2000> Can anyone help me with my TV card?
[00:43] <stdin> Dragnslcr: yeah, it's not ready yet ;)
[00:43] <Dragnslcr> Hehe
[00:44] <ToddEDM> stdin:  im trying , not sure how though
[00:44] <Dragnslcr> And I really hope that the KDE3-style K menu will be available
[00:44] <stdin> ToddEDM: you should just be able to right-click the icon in the system tray and choose the network to connect to
[00:44] <Dragnslcr> Looks very promising though. Looking forward to the final release
[00:45] <stdin> Dragonath: I'm sure someone will come up with a kde3 style clone
[00:45] <ToddEDM> when i single left click it, i get NO ACTIVE DEVICE
[00:45] <tekteen> ToddEDM: right click
[00:45] <scrubb2000> Anybody?  TV card help?  Please :(
[00:46] <stdin> ToddEDM: you may have to reboot after getting the driver...
[00:46] <ToddEDM> i see no networks
[00:46] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I heard that creating desktop and panel widgets is supposed to be almost-painfully easy in KDE4
[00:46] <tekteen> reboot
[00:46] <ToddEDM> ok stdin i will
[00:46] <ToddEDM> and i gotta go check out the kids gingerbread house
[00:46] <ToddEDM> brb
[00:46] <stdin> scrubb2000: if no one answers, it generally means no one knows. be patient and ask again in a while. you can also ask in #ubuntu seeing as it's not Kubuntu specific
[00:47] <stdin> ooh, too impatient...
[00:47] <scrubb2000> whoops
[00:47] <scrubb2000> That's the last time I click a button I don't know what it does...
[00:47] <stdin> scrubb2000: you just missed me say "if no one answers, it generally means no one knows. be patient and ask again in a while. you can also ask in #ubuntu seeing as it's not Kubuntu specific"
[00:47] <Dragnslcr> I vaguely recall that KControl was supposed to be the standard instead of System Settings. Is that true, or am I imagining stuff again?
[00:48] <stdin> Dragnslcr: no, other way around. kcontrol got broken horrible in the port so it was mostly abandoned
[00:48] <Dragnslcr> Ah
[00:48] <Dragnslcr> Guess I should stop using KControl then
[00:49] <stdin> yep :p
[00:49] <Dragnslcr> Will the new System Settings have a spot for Autostart apps? That seems like the only real difference between the two
[00:50] <stdin> maybe, not all the modules are finished (and integrated) get
[00:53] <Dragnslcr> Know offhand if there's an RC2 planned, or are they just going with a release and then fixing stuff that comes up in 4.0.1+?
[00:53] <Dragnslcr> Or I can just read the schedule notes
[00:53] <stdin> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule <
[00:54] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I asked before I read the details for the 4.0.1 release
[00:54] <ToddEDM> it is working guys
[00:55] <Dragnslcr> That's what I get for only reading the table of contents
[00:55] <ToddEDM> thanks for being so patient with me!
[00:55] <pjeide> hmm.. I just installed Mplayer and also w32codecs, but I am still unable to play any divx movies
[00:55] <tekteen> ToddEDM: cool
[00:56] <pjeide> the window that is supposed to contain the movie is just distorted as if the codec isn't installed... I can hear the audio in the background, and I have the video output set to xv/X11 in Mplayer
[00:56] <pjeide> and there was no hitch installing w32codecs
[00:57] <pjeide> I can play other video, just not divx video
[00:57] <pjeide> oh shoot.. I COULD play other video. now I cannot
[00:59] <pjeide> now video is broken in both Mplayer and Kaffeine
[00:59] <pjeide> all formats
[01:01] <pjeide> Totem, Mplayer and Kaffeine all produce a box of distorted color bars
[01:01] <pjeide> what is the best way to reinstall all video codecs...?
[01:03] <steve_n> hi, i am a new linux user, i need some help on Kubuntu 7.10 installation
[01:04] <Dragnslcr> pjeide- I've gotten that problem a few times. I'm not quite sure what causes it (might be related to Compiz), but restarting the X server fixes it
[01:04] <pjeide> Dragnslcr: thanks
[01:04] <pjeide> I'll give it a shot
[01:05] <steve_n> i recently install Kubuntu, all installation is fine. After that it prompted me for 'Distribution Upgrade' which stuck at zero percent for hours. Not sure what really went wrong
[01:06] <tekteen> steve_n: I think you were already at the newest version
[01:07] <tekteen> steve: open a konsole and type "sudo apt-get update" then the enter key
[01:07] <Dragnslcr> steve_n- there was a bug in Adept where it would show a new version being available after a 7.10 install
[01:09] <steve_n> ok. if i close the Distribution Upgrade now, my pc can't book into Kubuntu anymore
[01:09] <steve_n> last night, i close it and i had to reinstall Kubuntu again
[01:11] <steve_n> Dragnslcr, should just ignore the Adept updates and use 'sudo apt-get update' command instead to get all the latest fixes for Kubuntu gutsy ?
[01:12] <steve_n> is there anyway that i can install Kubuntu without reformatting the harddisk ?
[01:14] <Dragnslcr> You should only have to format the system partition. This is why it's a good idea to make /home its own partition
[01:15] <steve_n> Dragnslcr : normally for system partition, how much space would be require ?
[01:16] <Dragnslcr> How big is the hard drive?
[01:16] <steve_n> 80 GB
[01:16] <steve_n> i had another 40 GB as the second hard drive
[01:16] <Dragnslcr> Probably 10 GB should work
[01:17] <Dragnslcr> I think 20 GB is normal for larger disks
[01:17] <steve_n> if i close the Distribution upgrade, is there a way to recover without re-installing ?
[01:17] <Dragnslcr> I have 50 GB on / for some bizarre reason. Probably ignorance on my part
[01:17] <Dragnslcr> I dunno offhand. You can try using the recovery mode option in Grub
[01:19] <steve_n> ok. would try that.
[01:20] <steve_n> if i format the hard disk in Kubuntu, am I allowed to create folder on it ? I tried previously and had authority issues
[01:20] <steve_n> not sure what went wrong, it doesn't allowed me to create any folder
[01:20] <Dragnslcr> Depends where. Usually only root can create directories outside of your home directory
[01:21] <steve_n> how do i change to root ? am i the administrator by default and should have access to all the drive folder creation authority ?
[01:22] <Dragnslcr> !sudo
[01:22] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:22] <Dragnslcr> Should probably do a bit of reading on sudo
[01:23] <steve_n> ok. would do that :)
[01:24] <scrubb2000> !xine
[01:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:26] <draik> !info xine | scrubb2000
[01:26] <ubotu> scrubb2000: Package xine does not exist in gutsy
[01:27] <draik> Does anyone here play Uplink?
[01:27] <steve_n> anyone, is ubuntu better or kubuntu better ? or both are the same cause one is running in Gnone and another one running in KDE ?
[01:27] <draik> steve_n: Please don't start a flame war
[01:28] <steve_n> oops..sorry
[01:28] <steve_n> i didnt mean to
[01:29] <pjeide> steve_n: the difference is gnome vs kde
[01:29] <draik> steve_n: K/Ubuntu is preference only. period.
[01:29] <steve_n> ok..thanks guys :)
[01:31] <K`zan> Just installed 7.1 and during updates it blew out and upon installing anything so far I get this:
[01:32] <K`zan> There was an error commiting changes.  Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages of the comit would break packages.  Latest was trying to install xchat.  Any thoughts appreciated!
[01:35] <steve_n> K`zan : i had also just installed 7.1 yesterday. I also faced the same problem as you. I think could be some flaws in Adept. I am still very new to Kubuntu so i could be wrong.
[01:35] <ardchoille> aptitude *cough*
[01:36] <xniper> Hello. I'm trying to install kubuntu on my desktop and upon loading the live CD I'm getting an error of "Frequency Over Ragne". So I went to the CLI and changed the HorizSync and VertRefresh. But as I did startx again, I'm now getting this error: AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable. Can anyone help?
[01:40] <K`zan> steve_n: Thanks, looks like I head back to deb4 :-/.  Been fighting with strangeness on this all day today.
[01:40] <K`zan> Dunno which is broken, lots of packages (uncluding update stuff) or adept.
[01:42] <K`zan> At any rate I am tired so perhaps I'll try something else later.
[01:42] <K`zan> Thanks folks!
[01:43] <rickdog> hey, anybody had any freeze-up problems after being idle for some time, on a laptop, with kubuntu 7.10?
[01:44] <jughead> rickdog, I left my desktop on for 4-5 days and it locked up at some point.  I had to do a hard reset
[01:45] <rickdog> well this is related to the powersaving mode  i think and it happens after like 45 minutes, have to turn off laptop with power button
[01:45] <neighborlee> ahhh
[01:45] <neighborlee> wth!!
[01:45] <neighborlee> rickdog, ahh another rick in here causing me heeeeeadaches
[01:45] <neighborlee> dain I h ate th at
[01:46] <neighborlee> :)anyway
[01:46] <steve_n> does anyone faced a problem with Kubuntu restart ? I restarted Kubuntu and i had to do a physical reset of my pc
[01:46] <neighborlee> rickdog, is a known buntu problem atm I think.ie:  acpi issues in latest release
[01:48] <rickdog> acpi? any ideas on how to tweak it?
[01:52] <ryan-c> is there any way to keep aRts from lagging?
[01:54] <neighborlee> ryan-c, lagging ?
[01:55] <substancev> hey all. I wanted to come in here and say that i found the fix for the issues i have been having with kubuntu and my hp pavilion laptop. The NVIDIA drivers was the cause of the problems and not allowing me to enter into gui mode. the fix is simply edit (sudo nano /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common) and change DISABLED_MODULES="" to DISABLED_MODULES="nv". thanks all and sorry to leave most of you mind boggled
[01:56] <substancev> basically you can install the nvidia linux drivers and it will work.. until you reboot and your back at square one
[01:56] <substancev> this will fix that
[02:00] <excoder> Hello. I'm trying to install kubuntu on my desktop and upon loading the live CD I'm getting an error of "Frequency Over Ragne". So I went to the CLI and changed the HorizSync and VertRefresh. But as I did startx again, I'm now getting this error: AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable. Can anyone help?
[02:00] <Zombocom> my xserver is acting up so I'm in console, what's the command to configure the X server?
[02:01] <Zombocom> sudo xsomething-something xorg-xserver or whatever
[02:01] <neighborlee> Zombocom, I used to know ;)..dpkg something or other LOL
[02:01] <neighborlee> I rarely have  had to do it
[02:02] <Zombocom> I like to mess with settings
[02:02] <neighborlee> :))
[02:02] <Zombocom> so I told it stuff about a primary and secondary monitor
[02:02] <Zombocom> and it freaked out
[02:02] <neighborlee> Zombocom, naughty
[02:02] <Zombocom> lol thanks neighborlee
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> Zombocom: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:02] <Zombocom> thank you nosrednaekim
[02:02] <neighborlee> Zombocom, sudo dpkg --reconfigure xorg-server ? ;00
[02:03] <neighborlee> hm
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> neighborlee: close!
[02:04] <neighborlee> excoder, id go back to a safed file and start over .
[02:04] <ubuntu__> g
[02:04] <excoder> neighborlee, what do you mean by safed file?
[02:04] <neighborlee> well I was sorta close o_0
[02:05] <neighborlee> saved < sorry
[02:05] <excoder> oh okay. but I'm trying to boot from the CD. I'm not able to get to the GUI interface coz it's saying Frequency Ove Range.
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> excoder: use the safe video mode
[02:10] <excoder> nosrednaekim, you mean the second option on the Menu? That doesn't work either.
[02:10] <excoder> nosrednaekim, I also tried the vga=771 noapic nolapic   and doesnt work too.
[02:10] <neighborlee> excoder, if not go into that xorg file and only chaneg the line that mentions your horz/vert refresh rates
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> ah
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> ex
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> excoder: is this an installed system?
[02:11] <neighborlee> excoder, making sure its right for your monitor of course..check your m anual if you need to
[02:11] <excoder> neighborlee, I already did that and it worked. Frequency was fixed. Now my problem is when i do "startx" I'm now getting a different error: AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[02:12] <excoder> nosrednaekim, it's a fresh install. I'm still going to install it.
[02:12] <neighborlee> ?
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> excoder: this still a live cd>
[02:14] <excoder> nosrednaekim, I'm trying to run the live cd. So that I can try it out first before I install.
[02:14] <excoder> neighborlee, how do I restart X from the command line?
[02:15] <neighborlee> excoder, you dont need startx first off all...ctrl-alt-backspace should work fine I thinik
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> excoder: "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[02:15] <excoder> neighborlee,  oh okay, I'll try that.
[02:15] <excoder> nosrednaekim, cool, thanks.. I'll be trying that.
[02:16] <derkles> im a new kde user,gnome ex-pat.  how do i enable desktop-effects?
[02:16]  * excoder BRB guys, I'll try a few things.
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> !compiz
[02:17] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:17] <pjeide> derkles, I use a package called compiz for my effects.. I am not sure about built-in KDE effects
[02:17] <derkles> i used compiz for gnome
[02:18] <derkles> i guess I need to know where I set an app to start after login?
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> !autostart
[02:18] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[02:18] <derkles> thanks nosrednaekim
[02:26] <ryan-c> the responmsoe time for aRtsd is awful, watching movies with it is unbreable
[02:28] <excoder> nosrednaekim I tried the command and after that the screen just went blank.
[02:29] <excoder> neighborlee ctrl alt backspace don't work.
[02:29]  * HeLLoMoTo  TODO GRATIS PARA TU MOVIL http://www.canal-moviles.es
[02:37] <excoder> anyone out there?
[02:38] <flaccid> nope
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> excoder: you can go back to the terminal with "ctrl+ alt+ f2"
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> or f1
[02:45] <excoder> nosrednaekim yeah I'm there.  I tried typing the command you gave. It showed the blue desktop with a mousepointer for some time and went black again.
[02:51] <pedro> Hola a todos, soy nuevo usando linux como SO y tengo Kubuntu, tengo una inquietud Kubuntu reconoce la disquetera??
[02:51] <stdin> !es | pedro
[02:51] <ubotu> pedro: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[02:52] <pedro> Gracias muy amable. hast otra oportunidad,
[03:20] <jerware> hi
[03:20] <jerware> the default ftp client, fails to overwrite existing files upon uploading a file via ftp put.
[03:20] <jerware> what good is it?
[03:23] <jerware> whats a functional ftp client
[03:23] <jerware> and yes im restricted to ftp, therfor sftp is outa the question.
[03:25] <yewwen> sup ppl
[03:25] <NickPresta> jerware, gftp is nice
[03:25] <yewwen> wah
[03:25] <yewwen> so many ppl here
[03:25] <yewwen> hey guys
[03:25] <yewwen> how to install a file using terminal ? my file is at my desktop
[03:26] <NickPresta> yewwen, what kind of file? a deb?
[03:26] <yewwen> tar.gz
[03:26] <NickPresta> are you trying to compile something from source?
[03:26] <yewwen> no
[03:26] <yewwen> i just want to install this shits
[03:27] <NickPresta> install what? and what the language please
[03:27] <yewwen> english
[03:27] <yewwen> are u a chinese ?
[03:27] <yewwen> install flash player
[03:27] <yewwen> dude
[03:27] <NickPresta> watch the language, I should say
[03:27] <NickPresta> !flash | yewwen
[03:27] <ubotu> yewwen: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:27] <yewwen> dude dont try to be a hero in here
[03:27] <BluesKaj> jerware, there are several ftp clients available in adept
[03:28] <NickPresta> yewwen, would you like some help or would you prefer to sit there in confusion?
[03:28] <yewwen> NickPresta, if u are tryi
[03:28] <yewwen> completely.
[03:28] <yewwen> Unpackage the file. A directory called install_flash_player_9_linux
[03:29] <NickPresta> yewwen, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[03:29] <yewwen> NickPresta, if u are trying to be a hero i wouldn't mind going against u
[03:29] <NickPresta> yewwen, I don't know what you're trying to say but you need to follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[03:29] <yewwen> thanks for the help btw
[03:29] <yewwen> are u an operator in here?
[03:29] <yewwen> how can i get OP?
[03:30] <NickPresta> I'm not an op and asking for ops is a surefire way to make sure you don't get ops :)
[03:30] <yewwen> thanks
[03:30] <yewwen> see u around dude
[03:31] <jerware> NickPresta: gftp is an other failure.
[03:31] <jerware> for it woefully fails to overwrite existing files with the same name..
[03:31] <NickPresta> jerware, are you sure you have permission to overwrite files?
[03:31] <jerware> yes
[03:32] <NickPresta> i don't how an FTP client would prevent you from overwriting an existing file if you have permission to do so
[03:32] <jerware> becuase it works when i work on a windows box using wsftp
[03:32] <jerware> in the pc lab
[03:32] <NickPresta> why not try using `ftp`? that way you can rule out any specific problems caused by specific clients
[03:33] <Art_> Has anyone gotten CUPS working in Kubuntu Gutsy?
[03:33] <jerware> put the ftp command in backticks ?
[03:33] <NickPresta> jerware, in a konsole, type "ftp" sans quotes
[03:33] <jerware> i get the ftp prompt. so what.
[03:34] <NickPresta> so login and such and try to overwrite the file. see what error it returns and such
[03:36] <jerware> `ftp studentwebs.kutztown.edu`  # like this for example  ??
[03:38] <NickPresta> jerware, yes. It should ask for a Name and Password. Then, do something like "put localFile.ext remoteFile.ext"
[03:38] <NickPresta> to send a file
[03:41] <draik> What would cause me to not be able to view someone's webcam?
[03:41] <jerware> ftp> "put index.html index.html"
[03:41] <jerware> ?Invalid command
[03:41] <jerware> draik: do you have the proper web browser plug ins ?
[03:42] <draik> jerware: For a webcam?
[03:42] <jerware> draik: are you looking at web cam porn via the web browser? if so, you'll need flash.
[03:43] <draik> jerware: Haha. My buddy was trying to show me his place while he's on shore from the military and I could see it on my desktop, but not my laptop.
[03:43] <jerware> so you're using an other application to view web cam output ?
[03:44] <jerware> not the web browser.
[03:44] <draik> jerware: I am using Kopete on my desktop and laptop. I can view the video with my desktop, but not my laptop
[03:50] <Silouck> where can i download latest kubuntu snapshot release?
[03:51] <Admiral_Chicago> Silouck: hardy is open for testing
[03:51] <Silouck> Admiral_Chicago: url?
[03:51] <Admiral_Chicago> Silouck: the latest stable is 7.10 (gutsy)
[03:51] <Admiral_Chicago> Silouck: cdimage.ubuntu.com iiirc
[03:52] <Silouck> Admiral_Chicago: dont see any hardy, just gutsy
[03:52] <joseph> i run wow with wine and i have compiz running....is there any way to make wow not exit when i rotate cube to fifferent desktop?
[03:52] <Admiral_Chicago> Silouck: check the daily images
[03:52] <Silouck> Admiral_Chicago: i did
[03:53] <Silouck> Admiral_Chicago: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ checl
[03:53] <Admiral_Chicago> it may not say hardy on there but those are the most up to date packages, just not the most stable
[03:53] <Admiral_Chicago> oh i see
[03:54] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm
[03:55] <Silouck> Admiral_Chicago: [   ] kubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso   is the livecd?
[03:55] <Admiral_Chicago> Silouck: no its the alternative (text based with more advanced options)
[03:55] <Admiral_Chicago> and that is Gutsy still
[03:56] <Admiral_Chicago> to be honest, i don't know where the daily build of Kubuntu for Hardy are...i thought they would be up on that page
[03:56] <Silouck> Admiral_Chicago: where cna i get livecd?
[03:57] <ardchoille> Gutsy was only released last month, doubtful that there's anything useful in Hardy yet
[03:57] <Admiral_Chicago> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/7.10/release/
[03:57] <Admiral_Chicago> Silouck: ^^ latest stable release of Kubuntu
[03:57] <Silouck> Admiral_Chicago: im asking about the livecd
[03:58] <Admiral_Chicago> that *is* a live CD
[03:58] <ardchoille> Silouck: http://www.kubuntu.com/download.php#latest
[03:58] <Dragnslcr> As far as I know, all of the installation discs are LiveCD's
[03:58] <Silouck> Admiral_Chicago: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/7.10/release/ its a dvd
[03:58] <Admiral_Chicago> Dragnslcr: not the alternative cds
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> you're right, I didn't look close enought, busy with other work
[03:59] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry
[03:59] <stdin> I don't think there are any ISOs of Hardy yet, best/only way it to upgrade from Gutsy
[04:00] <ardchoille> I wouldn't think they would bother with an ISO yet
[04:00] <dcosson> has anyone been able to get a decent implementation of kickoff going in kubuntu?
[04:01] <fitoria_> Can I watch ASCII video in konsole with caca-utils????
[04:01] <fitoria_> i instaled caca-utils, and libine caca
[04:01] <darkness_s> caca
[04:01] <jughead> How can I set the default view mode as "detailed" in dolphin?  I tried going to view->adjust view properties and changing it there but the changes never stick.  It goes back to the big icons as soon as I navigate away and come back.
[04:02] <fitoria_> darkness_s:  i installed caca i can view pics
[04:02] <fitoria_> but no video
[04:02] <stdin> fitoria_: mplayer -vo caca video.avi ?
[04:02] <fitoria_> mm i dont have mplayer can i do it with kaffeine?
[04:02] <stdin> doubt it, kaffeine is a GUI
[04:03] <stdin> why would a GUI have console rendering...
[04:03] <fitoria_> so i need mplayer
[04:03] <stdin> mplayer or vlc are the ones I know can do it
[04:04] <stdin> there's probably others too
[04:04] <fitoria_> ok
[04:04] <fitoria_> thanks
[04:16] <mrtimbo> how do i hide my laptop on my network
[04:20] <naelr> mrtimbo: use a firewall
[04:21] <mrtimbo> just trying to help my dad
[04:21] <mrtimbo> i use on here
[04:35] <Dr_willis> Define "hide" :)
[04:35] <Dr_willis> And if its your own network.. why do you need to 'hide' it.
[04:37] <jughead> I just had an odd occurrence.  My screen just went blank and the kb wasn't responsive.  I reset and got back tothe login screen, and it did it again.  Where can I start the troubleshooting?
[04:37] <naelr> what is the driver disk talked about on the boot up of the live cd?
[04:42] <cam_> does anyone know the command to check the codecs that are installed i forgot
[04:42] <naelr> and where does one find it
[04:43] <jalbert> just install Mplayer. That opens everything.
[04:44] <mrtimbo> is there a reason why when i uninstall superkaramba everything kde gets deleted
[04:44] <mrtimbo> or the last time it was kopete
[04:44] <cam_> no i need to know if i can decode and encode 3gp
[04:48] <zibrah3ed> cam_ : Just google it there are several alternatives
[04:49] <cam_> i was hoping to skip the long research but oh well thx anyway =)
[04:50] <zibrah3ed> Ther is no long research
[04:50] <zibrah3ed> 3gp linux " press enter key"
[04:51] <cam_> lol thats step 1
[04:52] <cam_> then shift threw 20 results and about 100 posts
[04:53] <zibrah3ed> it looks like ffmpeg can encode 3gp
[04:54] <zibrah3ed>  example command ffmpeg -i movie.avi -i movie.wav -b 30 -ac 1 -ab 12 -map 0.0 -map 1.0 movie.3gp
[04:54] <cam_> last time i had to compile ffmpeg and set an option to enable it
[04:54] <cam_> idk if they made a new version with it already enabled thats what i wanted to check
[04:55] <cam_> but oh well its not that important
[04:55] <zibrah3ed> front end for ffmpeg http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Video/3gp-converter-25338.shtml
[04:55] <zibrah3ed> download ffmpeg from the medibuntu repos
[04:57] <cam_> forget it its not that important
[04:57] <Zombocom> is there an app to do internet radio streaming?
[04:58] <Zombocom> or something similar that's opensource
[04:58] <Zombocom> where would I ask that
[04:59] <Dr_willis> vlc can do streaming.  and its server.. but thats more for video..
[04:59] <Dr_willis> !find streaming
[04:59] <ubotu> Package/file streaming does not exist in gutsy
[04:59] <Zombocom> !radio
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <Zombocom> damn
[04:59] <Zombocom> yeah
[04:59] <Zombocom> I was just wondering
[05:00] <Zombocom> I'll look it up on sourceforge or something
[05:00] <Zombocom> and stop wasting your guy's time
[05:00] <zibrah3ed> icecast2 maybe
[05:00] <Dr_willis> peercast - P2P audio and video streaming server metapackage
[05:36] <Kuscheltod> Hey @ll
[05:37] <Kuscheltod> I;ve an question... :)
[05:38] <Azzco> ..So... are you going to ask it or just make us wait?
[05:39] <Daisuke_Ido> and the search is *still* on for a great usenet binary download client
[05:39] <yurimxpxman> is there an option in apache to not log requests from localhost or your own public IP address?
[05:39] <Kuscheltod> my w=lan is breaking several times, in windows i've used a tool for w-lan adapter... is there a "same" tool at linux?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Daisuke_Ido,  i used pan ages and ages ago. :)
[05:40] <Daisuke_Ido> pan's nice, doesn't do what i would like
[05:40] <Dr_willis> Yep all depends on your need.s
[05:40] <Dr_willis> I wantd binaries.. but i dident want ALL the ones. :)
[05:40] <Daisuke_Ido> bnr2 is excellent, but buggy, prone to crashes, and slower than molasses in january with more than a couple large groups
[05:41] <Dr_willis> seen several 'grab them all' type programs also..   i think ive even seen some written in perl.
[05:41] <Dr_willis> Buti havent used any in years
[05:42] <Kuscheltod> so... is there a tool which control's the network settings? ^^ (sry... new on this)
[05:43] <Azzco> Kuscheltod: Check your systray there should be a "knetworkmanager" check that out
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Unless you closed it. :)
[05:46] <Kuscheltod> yeah i've seen that and use it already... but sometimes it lost the whole connection to w-lan, had the same problem in windows and use there another tool and it stops ^^ it try to connect to the network and after that its not more visible to choose (settings correct for the network)
[05:50] <lockd> Daisuke_Ido: usenet is not really made for binaries
[05:50] <lockd> Daisuke_Ido: hence having few really good ones
[05:51] <Kuscheltod> na okay, i'll try different settings in knetworkmanager, thx a lot
[05:51] <Dr_willis> But its the best way to get.. err.... i dont want to go there... :)
[05:51] <Dr_willis> heh heh.. gotta love alt.binary.erotica.penguins
[05:51] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:52] <lockd> I always thought torrent was the best way to grab binaries, because of the way multi files are handled
[05:52] <Dr_willis> lockd,  usenet has been around for 20+ (perhaps 30+) years.. :)
[05:53] <lockd> Dr_willis: oh, and where do all the old files stack up?
[05:53] <Dr_willis> best is relative.. :) when it was used ages ago.. it was sort of the only way.
[05:53] <Dr_willis> lockd,  thats a very very good question. :)
[05:53] <Dr_willis> There used tobe some net archive sites. but no idea whos doing what now a days with them
[05:54] <Dr_willis> Used to  be like once a month in the MAME groups some one sould post all the roms, or a select # very month.
[05:54] <lockd> usenet still might be the best. but the only ones i have ever saw are "Paysites"
[05:54] <Dr_willis> Of course Now a days all the MAME roms is like 20GB.. vs.. 200mb back then
[05:54] <lockd> (only usenet servers, that is)
[05:54] <Dr_willis> theres free ones.. :) but it all depends on your needs I guess as to whats best.
[05:55] <Dr_willis> I rember the old BBS days.. egads
[05:55] <lockd> I can't even find a free text posting that is -decent-
[05:55]  * Dr_willis is old
[05:55] <lockd> let alone binary
[05:56] <Dr_willis> Torrents got us all spoiled. :)
[05:57] <lockd> btw, I still like konq over dolphin
[05:57] <Dr_willis> lockd,  the dolphin in kubuntu - I think. is a bit brain dead.. compared to the  one in KDE4 :) also..
[05:57] <lockd> that could be it
[05:57] <Dr_willis> or so i noticed in my kde4 live cd testing last week.
[05:57] <lockd> it IS brain dead
[05:58] <lockd> and it doesn't handle glob in address bar
[05:58] <lockd> kinda nice when searching through roms and such
[05:59] <lockd> glob, like *Legend*
[05:59] <Dr_willis> I just use MC for my main file manager. :P
[06:11] <Morningsickness> UNITED MEXICAN TROLLS ON THE ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    WE WILL RECONQUER THE SOUTHWEST DEMOGRAPHICALLY!!!!!!!      WE WILL RECONQUER THE SOUTHWEST DEMOGRAPHICALLY!!!!!!!      WE WILL RECONQUER THE SOUTHWEST DEMOGRAPHICALLY!!!!!!!      WE WILL RECONQUER THE SOUTHWEST DEMOGRAPHICALLY!!!!!!!      WE WILL RECONQUER THE SOUTHWEST DEMOGRAPHICALLY!!!!!!!      WE WILL RECONQUER THE SOUTHWEST DEMOGRAPHICALLY!!!!!!!      WE WILL RECONQUER THE SOUTHWEST DEMOGRAPHICALLY!!!!!!!  VAYANSE A LA CHINGADA GRINGOS DE MIERDA  SON RATEROS JUDIOS Y NECESITAN VOLVER A EUROPA    GO BACK TO EUROPE THEIVING GRINGOS  FUCCCKING JEWS  WE WILL OUTBREED YOU AND RECONQUER THE AMERICAN SOUTHWEST    6 TROLLS AT THE UNAM IN MEXICO CITY    UNSTOPPABL
[06:15]  * sub[t]rnl whistles
[06:15] <Azzco> ...kay
[06:20] <Nyle> ahh boy
[06:21] <Nyle> wonderful
[06:21] <shimwha> why so
[06:21] <ward_> Someone who knows an FTP program for Kubuntu?
[06:22] <flaccid> ward_: krusader or kftpgrabber
[06:23] <Doctor_Nick> woooo
[06:24] <ward_> wich one is the best
[06:24] <Doctor_Nick> ubuntu
[06:24] <flaccid> there is no best, it depends what you want. i use krusader for most protocols. konqueror is suffice for ftp anyway..
[06:24] <ward_> ok
[06:24] <Doctor_Nick> filezilla
[06:24] <Doctor_Nick> is a decent ftp client
[06:25]  * Dr_willis wishes to point out that  using ssh is perferable :)
[06:25] <Dr_willis> but it depends on your needs.
[06:25] <Greenery> u can use fireftp extension on firefox
[06:25] <flaccid> krusader and kftpgrabber both support sftp and scp iirc
[06:26] <ward_> ok
[06:26] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  cool. :)
[06:26] <ward_> what could be the command to install
[06:26] <ward_> Krusader?
[06:26] <ward_> kdesu krusader -caption "%c" %i %m
[06:26] <ward_> ?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> i never was clear on how sftp and scp differ.
[06:26] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install krusader
[06:26] <flaccid> !info krusader
[06:26] <ubotu> krusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.80.0-1 (gutsy), package size 3102 kB, installed size 8736 kB
[06:27] <ward_> hm
[06:27] <ward_> ?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> !info gentoo
[06:27] <ubotu> gentoo: a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.55-1.1 (gutsy), package size 764 kB, installed size 2432 kB
[06:27] <Dr_willis> !info mc
[06:27] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-7ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 2058 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[06:27] <Dr_willis> :) lets see how many others are there...
[06:27] <Dr_willis> !info filerunner
[06:27] <ubotu> filerunner: X-Based FTP program & file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.1-17 (gutsy), package size 136 kB, installed size 656 kB
[06:28] <jerald> I am rather... new to Kubuntu, but I have used Ubuntu before, is it almost the same?
[06:28] <Dr_willis> I know theres a few more...
[06:28] <Dr_willis> Kubuntu = Kde front end.. Ubuntu = gnome
[06:28] <jerald> Okay
[06:28] <Dr_willis> the default desktop differrs.
[06:28] <jerald> So, they are similar but not the same
[06:28] <Dr_willis> You can install kde, on ubuntu, and gnome on kubuntu easially enough.
[06:28] <Murchadh> !info kasablanca
[06:28] <ubotu> kasablanca: fast and free ftp client for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 165 kB, installed size 628 kB
[06:28] <Tm_T> come on
[06:28] <Dr_willis> and then theres the other desktops/window managers out there..
[06:29] <jerald> Alright
[06:29] <Dr_willis> is there a 'fluxbuntu' yet? i aint looked lately
[06:29] <jerald> I was just wondering if they were similar before I got too involved in it
[06:29] <Dr_willis> the 'core' is the same.. the desktop differs
[06:29] <jerald> Aight
[06:29] <Dr_willis> it always pays to learn the underlaying system and fundamentals of linux.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> dont just learn the 'desktop' :)
[06:30] <ward_> Ok guys thanks,
[06:30] <ward_> I went to school now
[06:30] <ward_> Ciao!
[06:30] <Dr_willis> well night a.. :) he goes to school.. i go to sleep.
[06:32] <sn00zer> is this an issue i need to address? 11/23/2007 08:28:32 PM	sn00zer	sudo	(pam_unix) authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=pts/1 ruser= rhost=  user=root
[06:33] <sn00zer> i saw that it was a security issue in earlier kde versions but it said up to 3.4 something, i have 3.5
[06:34] <ppmi_> Hello Everyone!
[06:35] <sn00zer> process should be kcheckpass no sudo, sorry
[06:35] <ppmi_> Can anyone guide me about enabling DMA for my SATA Hard Drive?
[06:39] <bazzieb> hi guys
[06:39] <sn00zer> hi
[06:39] <bazzieb> i have just upgraded to 7.10 ubuntu
[06:39] <sn00zer> congrats
[06:39] <bazzieb> and wanted to know if it has become easier to connect to a Active Directory omain
[06:39] <bazzieb> *domain
[06:40] <sn00zer> i don't know anything about that.... sorry
[06:40] <bazzieb> cool
[06:40] <sn00zer> and there doesn't seem to be anyone talking on this channel right now
[06:41] <sn00zer> #ubuntu is alittle more active maybe ask there?
[06:42] <bazzieb> cool
[06:42] <bazzieb> just have
[06:46] <kristjan_> where can I dl hardy haron iso?
[06:47] <kristjan_> *heron
[06:54] <jalbert> hey all
[06:55] <jalbert> I need to install Netscape on my Feisty system
[06:56] <jalbert> ahould I download the tar.gz and go from there?
[06:57] <stdin> jalbert: why do you need netscape?
[07:04] <Eltoroph> hai all
[07:13] <MilitantPotato> Where's color schemes saved?
[07:13] <emilsedgh> MilitantPotato: every KDE suff is saved in ~/.kde look there
[07:14] <MilitantPotato> ~//.kde/share/config/colors/  ?
[07:15] <emilsedgh> MilitantPotato: ~/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes (Your Personal themes)
[07:15] <MilitantPotato> Thank you
[07:16] <emilsedgh> MilitantPotato: and Installed Themes: /usr/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes
[07:29] <jalbert> hi all
[07:30] <jalbert> I'm having a little difficulty installing Netscape 7
[07:30] <jalbert> !install
[07:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[07:33] <quin_> hey, I just install kubuntu 7.10 on a compaq presario m2000. the boot screen does not come up when it booting up
[07:33] <ThunderHawk> hello/witam
[07:36] <sillyforprez> hm
[07:36] <sillyforprez> hi
[07:48] <tazgodx> i got a problem, i have a rar file on a flash drive that has an NES rom in it. and i can extract it fine on windows, but in my kubuntu i can't extract it.
[08:08] <posingaspopular> tazgodx: what's the error?
[08:08] <posingaspopular> !unrar | tazgodx
[08:08] <ubotu> tazgodx: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:08] <posingaspopular> look at that page if you haven't yet
[08:09] <tazgodx> it says its empty
[08:09] <posingaspopular> ahh what is the name of the file
[08:10] <posingaspopular> if the file starts it a dot, linux wont see it.
[08:10] <posingaspopular> ./configure for example
[08:10] <tazgodx> Yoshi.rar
[08:10] <Ayabara> I'm having some issues trying to install kde4-rc1 -> trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/lib/libkdeinit4_konqueror.so', which is also in package kde4base
[08:11] <tazgodx> hold on, ill try terminal
[08:12] <tazgodx> says its not a rar archive, and "No files to extract"
[08:13] <Ayabara> I have tried an "apt-get -f install", but I get the same errors
[08:13] <posingaspopular> and you get this same error from ark and termial
[08:13] <posingaspopular> hmm
[08:13] <posingaspopular> can you drag and drop the file from the flash drive to a desktop
[08:14] <posingaspopular> i dont know if it fix the problem but im just throwing it out there
[08:15] <tazgodx> i actually threw it on the flash drive to take it to my parents windows comp, to test it. and it worked but i have more on this comp that i want extracted
[08:15] <tazgodx> yeah same error from arc and terminal with unrar command
[08:18] <posingaspopular> just a wuick question: why can't you use ZSNES from the repository for the ROM
[08:18] <posingaspopular> ive never used it, so i dont know the limitations, and i know snes and nes are different consoles
[08:19] <tazgodx> well the rom is rared up, i need to extract it to play it
[08:22] <korex> русский
[08:22] <korex> русские есть
[08:22] <Jalathan> tazgodx: have you tried the unrar program?
[08:23] <posingaspopular> !pl
[08:23] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:23] <SSJ_GZ> Ayabara: Try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3829935#post3829935
[08:23] <posingaspopular> im not even sure if that'spolish. looks closer to russian...
[08:24] <|Dominus|> hallo
[08:24] <tazgodx> yeah, it says not a rar archive, and "No files to extract"
[08:25] <posingaspopular> hi
[08:25] <posingaspopular> hi |Dominus|
[08:26] <Ayabara> SSJ_GZ: found the same post myself, and it worked. thanks :-)
[08:26] <SSJ_GZ> Ayabara: Cool :)
[08:28] <inversekinetix> ¿ʇı xıɟ ı uɐɔ ʍoɥ 'uʍop ǝpısdn sı uǝǝɹɔs ʎɯ
[08:30] <tazgodx> ʎuunɟ ǝʇınb sʇɐɥʇ
[08:31] <jon1k555> jupiii
[08:31] <posingaspopular> offtopic guys
[08:32] <Jalathan> tazgodx: sry for not looking at the previous posts... however, you might look into running it through 7-Zip under WINE
[08:33] <Airforce55555> anybody know how to view a pages web sites info
[08:33] <Airforce55555> In windows i pressed something but i dont remember
[08:33] <tazgodx> i keep hoping not to have to install wine, i still have yet to fall to that :) guess i must just for these
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> Airforce55555: doesnt firefox 3 beta let you do that?
[08:34] <Airforce55555> im not sure
[08:34] <Airforce55555> all i see is view page source
[08:34] <stdin> tazgodx: p7zip is in the repos, no need for wine
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> Airforce55555: Ho do you mean info?
[08:35] <Airforce55555> like it shows the author, date it was last updated along with other stuff
[08:35] <Airforce55555> stuff necessary for citations
[08:35] <tazgodx> hmm, says its already installed...wow this is getting annoying
[08:35] <posingaspopular> ctrl+I ?
[08:35] <stdin> Airforce55555: in which browser
[08:35] <posingaspopular> in firefox
[08:35] <Airforce55555> firefox
[08:36] <Airforce55555> let me see
[08:36] <stdin> the n Ctrl-I it is
[08:36] <Airforce55555> ctrl I worked
[08:36] <Airforce55555> :D
[08:36] <Airforce55555> thanks
[08:36] <stdin> could also just right-click -> view page info
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> learn something new every day
[08:39] <tazgodx> !info unrar-free
[08:39] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20070515-1 (gutsy), package size 40 kB, installed size 124 kB
[08:40] <linhack> !info pdf
[08:40] <ubotu> Package pdf does not exist in gutsy
[08:40] <posingaspopular> linhack: what do you need to know about pdf's?
[08:41] <linhack> for edit pdf
[08:41] <linhack> acrobat full not exist for linux?
[08:41] <linhack> ofr alternative program
[08:41] <Tm_T> !pdf
[08:41] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[08:41] <linhack> aaaaaaaaa tank....
[08:41] <linhack> !pdf
[08:41] <posingaspopular> yea editing pdf is a problem
[08:41] <Tm_T> see, viewable
[08:42] <linhack> I install acrobat full in wine directory
[08:42] <posingaspopular> Tm_T: i thought pdf was an open format
[08:42] <Tm_T> you can sure import pdf to OO.o
[08:42] <posingaspopular> and then edit and export to pdf again
[08:42] <linhack> pdf and tft
[08:43] <Tm_T> posingaspopular: yes, sort of, but Adobe does have their own "specialities" in their creators that doesn't fit too well to "open format"
[08:43] <linhack> fdf
[08:44] <linhack> i use linux for work.... and i have problem for pdf
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> posingaspopular: this could help http://www.linux.com/feature/113907
[08:45] <posingaspopular> !info flpsed
[08:45] <ubotu> flpsed: a WYSIWYG pseudo PostScript editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7-1.1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 30 kB, installed size 140 kB
[09:09] <JackWinter> hiya, is there a way to turn off hyperthreading temporarily in kubuntu?
[09:10] <bucatoamano> anyone use converit?
[09:14] <leopard> hello
[09:15] <leopard> hello....
[09:17] <posingaspopular> hey leopard
[09:17] <leopard> how to connect to a wireless access point?
[09:18] <leopard> is there any graphical took for it?
[09:18] <posingaspopular> knetworkmanager
[09:18] <leopard> tool*
[09:18] <posingaspopular> i dont use ever to be honest
[09:18] <posingaspopular> use wireless*
[09:20] <leopard> how do you get connected to internet?
[09:22] <tahir> leopard: on kubuntu there is a knetworkmanager icon, right-click on that to view available wireless networks
[09:24] <posingaspopular> it should be on the taskbar near the clock
[09:34] <bazzieb> has any1 here managed to get 7.10 to authenticate to AD???
[09:34] <corinth> Hi all, it seems that my cdrom doesn't mount on boot. How do I fix that?
[09:43] <tahir> corinth: do you mean the cdrom 'drive' is not being detected? or an actual cdrom disc?
[09:44] <corinth> tahir: An actual cdrom disc. For example, I have a game cd I usually keep in the drive. In Ubuntu, I can boot up, and jump in the game. In Kubuntu, I have to navigate to the drive and open it before it mounts so I can use it.
[09:50] <sharkk> hi, i have just installed kubuntu but when i try to compile something with gcc i get some error like that it doesn't find header file such as stdlib.h, signal.h, ...
[09:50] <sharkk> what pkg i need to install?
[09:51] <corinth> sharkk: try build-essential
[09:51] <sharkk> If you do not plan to build Debian packages, you don't need this package.
[09:51] <sharkk> ?
[09:51] <tahir> corinth: I am not sure. I know that many people have reported usb devices not being auto-mounted. I have had issues and make the thumbstick mount with 'pmount'.
[09:52] <sharkk> it doesnt seems useful...
[09:52] <corinth> tahir: Thanks anyway.
[09:53] <tahir> corinth: if it is detected but not mounted there is a window pop-up usually which states 'open in new window' and at at the bottom 'always do this for this type of medium' - try ticking that.
[09:54] <corinth> tahir: No go. It detects it, but doesn't ask me what to do.
[10:03] <tahir> corinth: sorry don't know. you could pop the question to the 'kde' channel as well as it may be a general kde thing.
[10:11] <berga_> hi all
[10:11] <bazhang> hi!
[10:13] <berga_> I'm experiencing a strange fact over internal newtwork
[10:13] <berga_> network
[10:14] <berga_> nslookup resolves the right host's ip, but i can't ping that host
[10:15] <berga_> I'm a part of a domain setted via dhcplient
[10:15] <atno> Good morning all
[10:16] <bazhang> berga_: you are trying to share files through the internal network or other
[10:16] <bazhang> hi atno
[10:18] <atno> ah kde4 wont install on my system... im keep getting errors :(
[10:18] <atno> for example: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/icons/crystalsvg/32x32/apps/kcmkwm.png', which is also in package kde4artwork-data
[10:18] <atno> is there a fix for that?
[10:19] <corinth> Is there a way to fix how the small bouncing icon stays much longer than it should after launching a program sometimes?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> is anyone running KUbuntu on an EEEPC here?
[10:21] <Tm_T> doing poll?
[10:21] <atno> ha!
[10:22] <Tm_T> atno: uhm, I'm not sure should you use KDE4 yet if you don't know how to handle package issues (well, who am I to tell)
[10:24] <squid0> hello! I have a wired and a wireless connection to my home LAN. but under the control module for the network, I have to specify which network interface I use to connect to the gateway (either eth0, wired, or eth1, wifi). this seems to be the only way to switch between the 2 connections... or is there a simpler way?
[10:24] <bazhang> ActionParsnip: tried it, but no atheros_swan support as of yet--otherwise it's nice
[10:24] <atno> Tm_T: i was following the guide from kubuntu home page, and yes im new to (k)ubuntu
[10:25] <Tm_T> atno: I know, just a thought, newest isn't always the best (for you)
[10:25] <Tm_T> !worksforme > atno
[10:25] <atno> Tm_T: apt-get suggests running apt-get -f install, but that doesnt helps either
[10:25] <Tm_T> yup
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: ive heard people got it working ok. I think with ndiswrapper
[10:26] <bazhang> ActionParsnip: true--though I'd prefer to avoid that fate :}
[10:26] <Tm_T> ActionParsnip: hmm, I wonder why this discussion, some help needed?
[10:26] <atno> Tm_T: on CentOS i have compiled kde4 and it's up and running :(
[10:26] <Tm_T> atno: yes
[10:26] <Tm_T> !dpkg
[10:26] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[10:26] <bazhang> ActionParsnip: why not join #eeepc
[10:26] <Tm_T> hmh
[10:27] <Tm_T> atno: see dpkg --help
[10:27] <astocko> Are there any active Ubuntu Developers on? I'd like to ask you a few questions about how to best get into Ubuntu development. If noone answers, I'm assuming I should just hit up the bug mailing lists and start fixing.
[10:27] <Tm_T> atno: but whatever you do with KDE4, it's on your own risk
[10:27] <J-_> When installing the kubuntu metapackage kubuntu-desktop in gutsy, does it install kde4?
[10:27] <atno> Tm_T: yes i know
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: cos no one chats :(
[10:27] <atno> Tm_T: :)
[10:28] <Tm_T> astocko: checking bugs, following mailinglists etc etc
[10:28] <Tm_T> astocko: we also have #kubuntu-devel
[10:28] <Tm_T> astocko: if you're interested on packaging, #ubuntu-motu is good place to be
[10:28] <bazhang> ActionParsnip: #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic then
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: cheers man
[10:30] <astocko> Tm_T: I was reading about a "mentoring" program, though I don't know if I clearly understood. A page on ubuntu.com referenced the mentoring program as being a peer review step before coming a full fledged core developer. On launchpad.net, the mentoring program is apparently for newbies wanting to help out. Which is it?
[10:30] <Tm_T> astocko: noo idea =)
[10:31] <astocko> Tm_T: Thanks for the channels :) I'll check them out.
[10:31] <Tm_T> blendtux-away: erm
[10:31] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[10:31] <blendtux-away> sorry
[10:32] <Tm_T> !away > blendtux-away
[10:32] <rysiek|pl> I am having a really strange issue here - I am using Kontact (with KMail and Akregator as the most used parts) for 3+ years and I have used them with the same configs for all this time;
[10:32] <rysiek|pl> what's more - I have ratyher dark desktop settings
[10:32] <Tm_T> rysiek|pl: screenshot?
[10:33] <Tm_T> (I do have too
[10:33] <Tm_T> )
[10:33] <rysiek|pl> Tm_T: a moment, I just finish the descr ;) )
[10:33] <Tm_T> yu yu
[10:33] <rysiek|pl> yesterday I tried to see what will happen when I "select a different profile" in Kontact - saving my usual settings, of course
[10:34] <Ahmuck> what happened to sunbird's icon?
[10:34] <Tm_T> Ahmuck: what?
[10:34] <rysiek|pl> and, well, some colours (namely: link, link visited and secondary list background) are default - but not MY default (darke), but "normal" default - blue, purple and light gray, resp.
[10:35] <rysiek|pl> I tried to revert to "my" profile, but without any luck
[10:35] <Tm_T> rysiek|pl: IIRC profile can have colorsettings of its own
[10:35] <Tm_T> I don't know if it had thrown some weird configs on
[10:35] <rysiek|pl> Tm_T: yeah, but where do you set them? and why the heck doesn't it respect the "use system colours" setting in KMail?
[10:36] <Tm_T> interesting
[10:36] <Tm_T> it should
[10:36] <rysiek|pl> funny thing is: when I start KMail or Akregator NOT as a kontact part (i.e. kontact is not running), A is OK
[10:36] <Tm_T> have you tried restarting
[10:36] <rysiek|pl> yup
[10:36] <Tm_T> oh boy...
[10:36] <rysiek|pl> tell me about it
[10:36] <rysiek|pl> that would be a great material for a bugrep, had I only have *any* idea against what to bugrep
[10:37] <Tm_T> :p
[10:37] <Tm_T> rysiek|pl: tried searching in bugs.kde.org?
[10:38] <rysiek|pl> not yet. I played with that just before going to sleep (yeah, I knwo...), and now I have to eat some breakfast and go to work. hoped for some "Well known Bug"
[10:38] <rysiek|pl> btw, is it a slow help day today? not much going on
[10:39] <rysiek|pl> hmmm... maybe the guys at #kontact will know something
[10:42] <Tm_T> rysiek|pl: they will, I'm sure
[10:56] <posingaspopular> astocko: you were talking about Masters of the Universe (MOTU).
[10:56] <posingaspopular> it's for anyone who wants to help develop ubuntu but needs help learning.
[10:57] <astocko> posingaspopular: thanks, I'm actually checking out all the wiki documentation now from MOTU :)
[10:58] <posingaspopular> awesome. i plan on going for motu as well in the next semester. there are lots of resources available, so you should no problem getting help
[11:00] <bazhang> posingaspopular: they have a mailing list?
[11:01] <astocko> bazhang: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-motu - mailing list sign up
[11:02] <bazhang> astocko: thanks! I am so there :}
[11:02] <posingaspopular> yes, and bazhang had the link
[11:02] <bazhang> cheers posingaspopular!
[11:03] <posingaspopular> if you hang out in the dev chan. talk to superm1 and nixternal, they are both rock solid dudes from my loco
[11:03] <posingaspopular> and manchicken of couser
[11:04] <ubuntu> is there anyone speak italian
[11:05] <Tm_T> !it | ubuntu
[11:05] <ubotu> ubuntu: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:05] <ubuntu> thanks
[11:05] <Tm_T> you're welcome
[11:05] <tahir> what is the best way to download source code for programs?
[11:05] <posingaspopular> tahir: sourceforge
[11:08] <tahir> I use aptitude as my package manager, any way to use that to download source code as well as install programs?
[11:09] <wucheng> i start #glxinfo ,but return the message "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[11:09] <wucheng> Xlib: No protocol specified
[11:09] <wucheng> Error: unable to open display :0",what should i do ?
[11:09] <posingaspopular> apt and adept
[11:09] <posingaspopular> are usually the three for ubuntu
[11:12] <tahir> posingaspopular: apt-get source 'program_name' does the job but I am confused as to why I can't do the same thing with aptitude too.
[11:15] <ubuntu> I-m sorry can you take me the italian channel please, thank you
[11:15] <vorian> #ubuntu-it
[11:16] <tahir> Its ok I found the answer here: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/09/15/getting-the-source-package-with-aptitude/
[11:19] <posingaspopular> yea i dont understand why ubuntu wants to use three different package managers
[11:19] <posingaspopular> ubuntu: type in "/join #ubuntu-it"
[11:20] <waylandbill> anyone using vmware server? if so, how do I access it? does it install some client?
[11:20] <posingaspopular> you need to install it waylandbill
[11:21] <waylandbill> I did install using vmware-install.pl.
[11:22] <waylandbill> are you saying I need to install a seperate client as well?
[11:23] <tahir> posingaspopular: is it ok to use different ones at different times?
[11:24] <posingaspopular> yes but i forget the differences and i try not to think about it too much
[11:24] <posingaspopular> that's one of the things about ubuntu that bothers me
[11:30] <waylandbill> posingaspopular: having choices is the point. being limited to one certain way isn't.
[11:31] <posingaspopular> yea i know, but the documentation as to WHY there are adept, aptitude and apt-get exist and how to use it isn't where it should be
[11:32] <posingaspopular> i know because im supposed to be on the docs team
[11:32]  * posingaspopular makes a mental note to write some docs asap
[11:34] <waylandbill> posingaspopular: aptitude is there because it was already there from upstream debian. It has an ncurses type gui. adept is for using the qt gui, synaptic, the gtk gui, and apt-get is simple command line.
[11:34] <waylandbill> see. simple. :)
[11:34] <posingaspopular> yea simple...
[11:34] <posingaspopular> bashes head into monitor
[11:34] <posingaspopular> aptitude is how one gets debian packages in debian/
[11:36] <waylandbill> aptitude was the way to actually select packages to install during a debian installation. I think one could have used dselect as well, but aptitude was a huge step forward from dselect.
[11:37] <posingaspopular> ah okay. i need to install debian etch on an ibook soon i think.
[11:37]  * posingaspopular goes back to being ontopic
[11:41] <sillyforprez> hey guys.. i have a question >_<
[11:42] <sillyforprez> how do i remove the top of konsole? with session edit view etc on it..
[11:42] <waylandbill> hmm. the documentation says to launch the vmware server console, but it doesn't appear in the k menu. I know there is a way to force updating of the k menu, but don't remember it.
[11:42] <posingaspopular> hide menubar sillyforprez
[11:43] <posingaspopular> hey guys i have a question. i hid my menubar, and now i dont know how to get it bad
[11:43] <posingaspopular> back*
[11:43] <posingaspopular> ah nvm, just open up a new konsole instance
[11:43] <waylandbill> posingaspopular: right click the konsole interface and select 'show menubar'
[11:43] <sillyforprez> where's the hide menubar option?.. maybe im just blind
[11:44] <posingaspopular> on top, under settings iirc
[11:44] <waylandbill> sillyforprez: Settings->Hide MenuBar
[11:44] <sillyforprez> oh.. bah.. i AM blind..
[11:44] <posingaspopular> ah i see
[11:44] <sillyforprez> thanks :P
[11:44] <posingaspopular> thanks waylandbill
[11:57] <sillyforprez> ah cool.. ctrl+m works too :P
[11:59] <sunpaw> anyone here know about kubuntu on laptops?
[11:59] <sillyforprez> what do you need to know?
[12:00] <_4strO> !ask
[12:00] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:00] <sunpaw> Well my battery icon claims that battery isn't present, and on startup HAL says it bcant find the wifi
[12:02] <posingaspopular> which laptop
[12:03] <sunpaw> Acer Aspire 3050 1066
[12:04] <posingaspopular> my sister has that computer and it runs ubuntu perfectly
[12:04] <posingaspopular> sorry i cant help on that one
[12:05] <sunpaw> :( oh well
[12:05] <ardchoille> Anyone know how I can get elinks to have the same colours when running in screen as when running outside of screen?
[12:05] <sunpaw> maybe ubuntu > kubuntu on this
[12:05] <posingaspopular> im pretty sure my brother configured some stuff for her before he let her run wild, but ubuntu does work on that laptop
[12:06] <sunpaw> ok
[12:06] <posingaspopular> im almost positive about the particular model being the same you have
[12:06] <sunpaw> yah probably, its common
[12:07] <posingaspopular> yea im pretty sure its the same one. that won't fix your kubuntu problems though.
[12:08] <pongscript> hi there..
[12:08] <pongscript> is there any can help me .. it is regarding the toolbar that suddenly disappear
[12:08] <sunpaw> unfortunately kubuntu is slighted. Gnome is the environment they work with
[12:08] <sunpaw> i could just install gnome
[12:08] <sunpaw> woops
[12:08] <pongscript> i dunno what happened it just suddenly disappear
[12:09] <pongscript> i am using KDE3.5.6
[12:09] <pongscript> i have 7.04
[12:09] <pongscript> how can i bring back the toolbar?
[12:10] <pongscript> any help? anyone?
[12:10] <posingaspopular> the task bar/
[12:10] <pongscript> yup
[12:10] <posingaspopular> alt+f
[12:10] <posingaspopular> alt+f2
[12:10] <posingaspopular> you wnat to launch 'kicker' but without the quotes
[12:11] <pongscript> ok ill try that shortcut key
[12:12] <posingaspopular> you can also run it from the kmenu under 'Actions'
[12:17] <sillyforprez> how do i get specs on the sides like this - http://www.kubuntuforums.net/mkportal/modules/gallery/album/a_70.jpg ?
[12:20] <pongscript> ok thanks for your help.. though i find another solution...lolz
[12:20] <waylandbill> sillyforprez: super karamba
[12:21] <waylandbill> !info superkaramba
[12:21] <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 533 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[12:21] <sillyforprez> thanks :)
[12:21] <posingaspopular> ah yea that's wha ti was thinking of
[12:30] <youness> HI
[12:33] <posingaspopular> hey youness
[12:44] <paolo> hi. considering a 17x17 mini itx, if I don't use any graphic card and any HD, how bigger could be the case (considering the power supply too) ?
[12:46] <sigma> how do i set apache to use my local ip address as its ip address and not the default <IP_ADDRESS>?
[12:47] <flaccid> its like in ports.conf or something
[12:47] <flaccid> one sec
[12:47] <sitara> Hi guys, I'm having trouble getting my kubuntu machine connected to the internet. It seems to be getting the wrong ip address from the router (DHCP server) can anyone help?
[12:49] <posingaspopular> sitara: try ifconfig and sudo dhclient
[12:49] <flaccid> sigma: do it in the default vhost
[12:50] <sigma> flaccid: is that in the ports.conf you were referring to?
[12:51] <flaccid> look in  /etc/apache2/sites-enabled and /etc/apache2/sites-available and /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[12:51] <flaccid> also check /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[12:51] <flaccid> i can't entirely remember. i disagree with the config implementation on debian as do most apache people
[12:52] <sitara> posingaspopular: dhclient says it gets no offers
[12:53] <paolo_u> hi. considering a 17x17 mini itx, if I don't use any graphic card and any HD, how bigger could be the case (considering the power supply too) ?
[12:54] <sigma> flaccid: I keep getting this error message - apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[12:55] <flaccid> yeah needs to be resolvable by dns..
[12:55] <sitara> posingaspopular: ifconfig gives me an inet addr of 169.254.. wheeras I am expecting 192.168..
[12:56] <sitara> posingaspopular: I don't understand where that address is coming from
[12:56] <flaccid> yeah dhcp server is not giving offer
[12:56] <flaccid> its a virtual private address which it defaults to via service discovery
[12:56] <flaccid> the dhcp could be giving the offer, but the dhcp client aint getting it
[12:57] <sitara> the strange thing is that I am connected to the same router with this computer
[12:57] <sigma> flaccid: so how do i force it to? my ip addresses are set to be assigned by dhcp
[12:58] <sitara> this morning the other computer was working properly with a wireless connection until I moved it from one side of the room to the other!
[12:58] <flaccid> sigma: probably edit ports.conf and do it explicitly
[12:59] <pavlovic> URA evo i mene
[13:00] <pavlovic> Ko razume shvatice
[13:00] <sitara> I tried assigning a manual ip address but I sstill don't get connected
[13:00] <pavlovic> Jupi
[13:00] <flaccid> !apache
[13:00] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[13:00] <flaccid> did you read that?
[13:01] <posingaspopular> sorry sitara i have to go afk. im sure others in this chan are better at networking than me anyway. good luck!
[13:02] <sitara> posingaspopular: thanks anyway
[13:03] <sitara> can anybody please help me with my networking problem? I am baffled
[13:03] <pavlovic> Pa sta
[13:09] <Jermit> hello
[13:11] <Jermit> anyone here?
[13:12] <Jermit> why is nobody chatting?
[13:14] <ardchoille> Any idea how to get elinks to show images rather than showing [IMG] ?
[13:27] <Zombocom> how do I view other computers on a network in kubuntu?
[13:31] <Zombocom> hello?
[13:32] <Zombocom> hello
[13:33] <sillyforprez> hello
[13:37] <Zombocom> do you know how to view computers on your network in linux?
[13:39] <waylandbill_> Zombocom: you want to share files between them?
[13:40] <Zombocom> waylandbill_: no I just want a list of the computers near me like the windows net view command
[13:41] <Zombocom> hold on I think I might have figured it out
[13:48] <waylandbill_> Zombocom: the 'computers near me' are really only the ones that are serving samba shares.
[13:50] <waylandbill_> Zombocom: your router or other dhcp server if you have one probably has a list of leases. That may give a more accurate list of computers on your network.
[13:52] <ubuntu_> help! i need log as root in kubuntu 7.04 live
[13:52] <ubuntu_> someone can help me
[13:52] <ardchoille> ubuntu_: On the live cd?
[13:52] <ubuntu_> kubuntu
[13:52] <ubuntu_> live cd
[13:52] <ubuntu_> yes
[13:53] <ardchoille> afaik, you can't
[13:53] <ardchoille> You can, however, use sudo on the live cd
[13:53] <ubuntu_> ok
[13:53] <ubuntu_> but I can't log as root
[13:54] <ardchoille> No
[13:54] <ubuntu_> ?
[13:54] <ubuntu_> oka
[13:54] <ardchoille> There is no need to log as root
[13:54] <Zombocom> ardchoille: when do you sleep?
[13:54] <ardchoille> Zombocom: Sleep? What's that?
[13:55] <sillyforprez> that thing people do when they log off from wow
[13:55] <ardchoille> hehe
[14:01] <giuseppe> hi
[14:01] <ardchoille> hi giuseppe
[14:03] <giuseppe> hi ardchoille :)
[14:03] <mith_> hi all!
[14:05] <Mr_Sonoma> cyall later, be good
[14:06] <mith_> does anybody playing openttd on kubuntu?
[14:07] <sillyforprez> thomax? :P
[14:10] <giuseppe> How could i enable the "automatically select file name extension" option check box in kdialog in kwrite? i have it grayed out
[14:11] <giuseppe> Does anyone know?
[14:12] <giuseppe> that option is in the save as dialog box
[14:19] <waylandbill_> giuseppe: might not matter. Looks like that section of code has a comment that it should be removed in kde 4. :)
[14:20] <waylandbill_> giuseppe: in any case, it looks like the application has to set the mime filter before it will enable that option. I don't know if that helps you or not.
[14:21] <giuseppe> hi waylandbill_: thanks for your answer i ask this because every time i save a file in kwrite without extension, the file is saved as a generic file and not as a text one
[14:22] <giuseppe> i have to add the .txt extensions to the name of the file to have it saved as text
[14:22] <sunpaw> So when my computerp comes on, HAL complains that the wifi card cannot be "attached". And indeed, i cannot get on my campus wifi connection with this laptop. Nobody seems to be able to help me. Im using an Acer Aspire 3050
[14:24] <simion314> hi, i have a problem with my internet connection, i connect to internet with a non popular modem(i am using a script to turn on the dialup modem) and if i try to configure a network card the internet will not work after restart, i have to disable the card and restart, where could be the problem?
[14:24] <waylandbill_> giuseppe: actually, I just tried saving a text file without the txt extension and then clicked on it in dolphin and it opened in kate.
[14:26] <Jucato> afaik, Linux doesn't need file extensions to identify files (although you can try to "fool" it sometimes)
[14:26] <BluesKaj> simion314, what network card and modem are you using ?
[14:26] <giuseppe> waylandbilll_:  it's strange because sometimes in my case it saves as text and other times as a generic file
[14:26] <waylandbill_> giuseppe: I'm not certain, but konqueror and dolphin probably use 'file' to determine what a file is, not an extension.
[14:27] <Jucato> waylandbill_: afaik, KDE uses mimemagic of some sorts. not "file" (someone tried to explain it to me once. had to lie down after the lecture)
[14:27] <simion314> BluesKaj: i have a phone with a modem that i connect to internett, is a ZAPP z1130 but i elive that is not use outside romania
[14:28] <Jucato> giuseppe: how are you checking that it's a generic fle and not a text file?
[14:28] <sunpaw> So when my computerp comes on, HAL complains that the wifi card cannot be "attached". And indeed, i cannot get on my campus wifi connection with this laptop. Nobody seems to be able to help me. Im using an Acer Aspire 3050
[14:28] <waylandbill_> Jucato: interesting. file worked rather well. oh well. no biggie.
[14:28] <simion314> BluesKaj: ii install it by pasting some scripts in /etc/ppp and running a script after ading a line in etc/resolv.conf
[14:29] <waylandbill_> Jucato: hello BTW. :-D
[14:31] <Jucato> waylandbill_: file works. but afaik, KDE3 and file use different mime databases/algorithms I think. KDE4 will be using a more cross-desktop solution I think (fd.o)
[14:31] <Jucato> waylandbill_: hi too :)
[14:31] <simion314> BluesKaj:if i enable te network card something is breaking
[14:31] <giuseppe> Jucato: because if i create it in kwrite and save it without extension sometimes it saves as text other times as a generic file
[14:31] <Jucato> giuseppe: how are you determining that it's a generic file? by looking at the icon? by trying to open it?
[14:31] <giuseppe> Jucato: yes by looking at the icon
[14:31] <Jucato> giuseppe: that's not very reliable :)
[14:31] <Jucato> so it's not being saved as  a generic file at all. just that the wrong icon is being used
[14:31] <Jucato> hell I have some plain text files that are marked as header files (.h icons)
[14:32] <sunpaw> So when my computerp comes on, HAL complains that the wifi card cannot be "attached". And indeed, i cannot get on my campus wifi connection with this laptop. Nobody seems to be able to help me. Im using an Acer Aspire 3050
[14:32] <giuseppe> Jucato: everytime i have to choose a program to open it
[14:32] <Jucato> hm.. ok that's a different case
[14:33] <Jucato> and I doubt the checkbox in the Save file dialog is the solution...
[14:33] <BluesKaj> simion314, you could have a dialup and network card conflict...I think you must disable one if the modem is looking for dialup via cellphone service, but I'm not sure
[14:33] <giuseppe> Jucato: it happens that when i save a file as text sometimes it saves as a generic file an "empy icon"...
[14:34] <giuseppe> and i have to open with the dialog box and always choose kwrite or kate
[14:34] <Jucato> strange indeed... never had that behavior before
[14:35] <sunpaw> why does power manager show that my laptop battery is "not present"? I cant see how charged it is
[14:36] <giuseppe> Jucato: so is this some kind of feature? ;)
[14:37] <Jucato> or bug (on your end) :)
[14:38] <simion314> BluesKaj: i need to enable the network card, and i must find how to make the work without crashing, thx, i will post my problem in a forum and i will read more on google
[14:39] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | simion314
[14:39] <ubotu> simion314: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:40] <giuseppe> Jucato: i created another file and it saved as an "empty icon" it's marked as unkown file not generic sorry
[14:40] <giuseppe> unknown
[14:40] <BluesKaj> simion314 try to show in your errors in pastebin, if possible
[14:41] <Jucato> giuseppe: sorry. not really sure what's going one...
[14:41] <waylandbill_> giuseppe: what are the contents of the file?
[14:41] <giuseppe> Jucato: ok well... nevermind thanks anyway :)
[14:42] <giuseppe> waylandbyll_: text only
[14:46] <sunpaw> wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware revision not supported' (HAL status 13) <==  O.O
[14:47] <giuseppe> waylandbill_: i have some text files and other text files but marked as unknown files and i don't know why konqueror does that
[14:53] <simion314> BluesKaj: i do not have error just the modem close after 20 seconds after i start it, now i have the network card disable, ithis error happen even if i manualy configure the network car in /etc/network/interfaces so is not a bug of the GUI applet
[14:53]  * genii sips a coffee
[14:53] <ScottG> I know it's not the easiest thing in the world but I'm trying to get Java working in 64 bit Firefox..
[14:54] <ksivaji> genii hi
[14:54]  * genii hands ksivaji a coffee
[14:56] <BluesKaj> genii, we need your expertise , simion314 has a unique internet connection that needs configuring
[14:56] <waylandbill_> giuseppe: I imagine it has to do with what is in the file especially the first line.
[14:56] <genii> BluesKaj: Uhoh ;)
[14:57] <genii> simion314: Can you give me a brief description of your situation?
[14:58] <giuseppe> waylandbill_: it could be
[14:58] <BluesKaj> I am quoting from his initial question : "I connect to internet with a non popular modem(i am using a script to turn on the dialup modem) and if i try to configure a network card the internet will not work after restart, i have to disable the card and restart, where could be the problem?
[14:58] <giuseppe> waylandbill_: but nevermind thank you anyway :)
[14:59] <simion314> genii:i have a modem and a network card, i connect to internet with this modem,it is a phone  in fact, if i enable the network card the modem will not work after restart
[15:01] <genii> simion314: In the ppp.options file you need to set a line which makes the modem and not the network card the default gateway whenever it is in use
[15:01] <genii> simion314: eg: replacedefaultroute
[15:02] <genii> Well,    /etc/ppp/options
[15:02] <genii> Is the correct file
[15:04] <simion314> genii: yes it contains :   lock
[15:05] <simion314> genii: what this mean? i must set here a default gateway?
[15:06] <sillyforprez> any way i could get xmodmap /home/user/.xmodmap to run at startup?
[15:07] <boguh> hi, whats the standard kde ftp client?
[15:07] <Lynoure> boguh: you can use konqueror for basic getting of files...
[15:07] <BluesKaj> sillyforprez, what are you trying to do , defeat capslock ?
[15:08] <genii> simion314: The entire contents of the file:  /etc/ppp/options   contains only "lock"   as it's contents?
[15:08] <sillyforprez> what do you mean? :P
[15:08] <boguh> Lynoure no i want an ftp client, not konqueror. i rememberd kbear but its not available annymore
[15:08] <sillyforprez> im trying to set up the hotkeys
[15:08] <Lynoure> boguh: well, you asked for the default...
[15:08] <sillyforprez> volume, play etc
[15:08] <Lynoure> or, well, standard.
[15:08] <simion314> genii: yes, just that
[15:09] <boguh> Lynoure ok, im searching for a stand alone application :)
[15:09] <genii> simion314: Is the modem device you are connectiong with called something like /dev/rfcomm0   or /dev/rfcomm1   or such? (Bluetooth)
[15:09] <Lynoure> boguh: I use command line ftp for most things. But I assume you want something graphical?
[15:10] <blizzzek> bye
[15:10] <boguh> Lynoure i used ncftp, but i want sth graphical, yes
[15:10] <Voyage_> pls help to install egg drop.
[15:10] <Voyage_> loguser1@pc1:~/Desktop/eggdrop1.6.18$ ./configure
[15:10] <Voyage_> This is Eggdrop's GNU configure script.
[15:10] <Voyage_> It's going to run a bunch of tests to hopefully make your compile
[15:10] <Voyage_> work without much twiddling.
[15:10] <Voyage_> checking for gcc... gcc
[15:10] <Voyage_> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[15:10] <Voyage_> See `config.log' for more details.
[15:10] <Voyage_> loguser1@pc1:~/Desktop/eggdrop1.6.18$ make config
[15:10] <Voyage_> make: *** No rule to make target `config'.  Stop.
[15:11] <BluesKaj> ok sillyforprez, try adding the file to autostart
[15:11] <Lynoure> !pastebin | Voyage_
[15:11] <ubotu> Voyage_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:11] <sillyforprez> i did that :/ didnt work
[15:11] <waylandbill_> !b-e: Voyage_
[15:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about b-e: voyage_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:11] <waylandbill_> !b-e | Voyage_
[15:11] <simion314> genii: no it is a usb modem,  the provider gives 4 files to paste them in etc/ppp including this option and it puts me to edit etc/resolv.conf to put an server ip there
[15:11] <ubotu> Voyage_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[15:12] <genii> Voyage_: There is a package for eggdrop, you don't need to compile it
[15:12] <Lynoure> boguh: I'm on Debian now, so not sure what
[15:12] <genii> !info eggdrop
[15:12] <ubotu> eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.18-1.1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 464 kB, installed size 1144 kB
[15:12] <genii> eg
[15:12] <giuseppe> bye
[15:13] <Lynoure> boguh: ...what is in kubuntu, but there does exist kasablanca, which is a graphical ftp client for kde
[15:13] <genii> simion314: Ah, Ok. What are the names of the 4 files which it puts into /etc/ppp    ?
[15:14] <genii> bah he got disconnected
[15:14] <Voyage_> genii,  which one ?
[15:14]  * genii sips a coffee
[15:15] <genii> Voyage_: The ubot tells us the eggdrop version is the same as that you are trying to compile,eg: 1.6.18
[15:15] <ksivaji> genii how long you will sip a cup of coffee
[15:16] <genii> ksivaji: All day :)
[15:16] <genii> Although not the same cup
[15:16] <Voyage_> genii,  ok. what is the package.     but btw, why i am unable to compile?
[15:17] <ksivaji> genii my konversation is not blinking  if i get a message
[15:17] <genii> Voyage_: The name of the package is just: eggdrop       and it looks like you are unable to comile because as waylandbill_points out you need the prerequisite package build-essential in order to compile things.
[15:17] <kraut> moin
[15:19] <Voyage_> oh . ic
[15:20] <simi> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45913/ this is the script that starts the internet named dialusb
[15:20] <Voyage_> genii,  ok
[15:20] <genii> simi: OK, examining
[15:21] <simi> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45914/ this is the  chap-secrets and is one more file
[15:21] <genii> simi: In that script just add under defaultroute   another line which is replacedefaultroue
[15:22] <Voyage_> in linux i cant type the letter that i can type in windows. why.  e.g.      press alt and stroke 569 and then release alt.   a sign appears.   this does not happens in linux. how can i do it ?
[15:22] <genii> simi: The first script
[15:22] <genii> simi: eg: replacedefaultroute \
[15:22] <thomas> hi
[15:22] <genii> simi: With the \
[15:23] <genii> work, AFK
[15:23] <thomas> in kpowersave, you have the option to change your screen's brightness, since a couple of days this doesnt work anymore :/ can anyone tell me which server, daemon, module takes care of this?
[15:24] <thomas> I was thinkin xorg, but nothing seems wrong over there
[15:24] <thomas> anyone?
[15:24] <simi> genii: this is the last one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45915/, i will try that but whhat that mean?
[15:24] <Voyage_> how to set terminal encoding
[15:24] <Voyage_> ?
[15:25] <thomas> what do you mean by that Voyage_
[15:25] <thomas> ?
[15:27] <Voyage_> thomas,  in linux i cant type the letter that i can type in windows. why.  e.g.      press alt and stroke 569 and then release alt.   a sign appears.   this does not happens in linux. how can i do it ?
[15:27] <boguh> is there a way that konsole opens links in a browser?
[15:28] <GuyFromHell> Anyone here use envy know what version of the nvidia driver it will install (more pointedly, will it install 169.04 beta?)?
[15:29] <simi> genii: i do not enderstend why to repplace default routher \ with \, what this mean?
[15:29] <GuyFromHell> wow my english fails >.>
[15:29] <thomas> Voyage_: can't help you with that one :/
[15:29] <genii> simi: When you have a network card and also a modem, the network card always becomes the first path to internet
[15:31] <simi> genii: and this replacement what does?
[15:31] <genii> simi: The option of:  replacedefaultroute    makes the modem the first place the computer looks for internet instead of to the network card
[15:33] <simi> genii: thx, must i restart the computer or only the pppd? thx again for your time
[15:34] <ubuntu> hello all,my system failed to boot everytime he stop at fsck and fail can anyone help me fix  this ?
[15:34] <genii> GuyFromHell: envy is not an officially supported script, so you must ask the maintainer/inventor these questions and not in the official kubuntu support channel
[15:34] <genii> simi: No restart should be needed
[15:35] <genii> simi: Just the pppd or so
[15:35] <Voyage_> iam suing xchat. my channel name on the left does not go red or blinks when some one types my nick in the channel main and sends a message for me. how can i do it?
[15:37] <genii> work calls me, going /away
[15:37] <BluesKaj> Voyage_, settings/preferences/alerts
[15:38] <Voyage_> BluesKaj,  that gives blinking tray or taskbar.   but not the channel name in whihc i got a messeg.          how will i know in which room i got a msg. if i have 10 rooms open.
[15:38] <LeeJunFan> what's the install option to install a minimal/server system? I want no GUI, just a base system basically, it's been a while :)
[15:40] <GuyFromHell> wrong button >.<
[15:43] <BluesKaj> Voyage_, in alerts choose blink taskbar on highlighted message then type your nick into the "nicknames to always highlight" textbar
[15:44] <Voyage_> BluesKaj,  if i change my nick. ill always have to edit it
[15:44] <BluesKaj> <---old xchat user in windows but prefers konversation on linux
[15:45] <BluesKaj> don't change your nick
[15:45] <cabldevil_> do i have to install identd to get konversation to run on efnet?
[15:45] <Voyage_> how about adding $me
[15:46] <GuyFromHell> someone answered my question and i just noticed it before i restarted X. thanks for your response, i couldn't read it but i think i saw the word 'unsupported' and 'third party', and if so i can figure out what you were saying. I just ended up installing the drivers by hand ;)
[15:49] <Voyage_> BluesKaj,  no use
[15:49] <BluesKaj> cabldevil_, not necesary afaik , but registering your nick will help
[15:49] <Zombocom> is my wireless card mac adress the same as my computer's mac adress?
[15:50] <BluesKaj> Voyage_, use konversation. It's easier to configure
[15:50] <Voyage_> hmm. ok
[15:51] <Zombocom> anyone?
[15:51] <Zombocom> !mac
[15:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:51] <Zombocom> !Mac adress
[15:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac adress - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:52] <tung> I have some problems with ati accelerated graphics driver
[15:52] <BluesKaj> !mac address
[15:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac address - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:52] <Zombocom> BluesKaj: worth  the try though, huh
[15:52] <BluesKaj> dunno about mac addresses 'n such
[15:53] <tung> when I play a game in full screen mode, there is nothing on the screen
[15:53] <tung> I'm using ATI radeon 200
[15:53] <darkness_s> Zombocom: every NIC in your system has a unique MAC
[15:54] <tung> anyone help me
[15:54] <BluesKaj> tung , on gutsy?
[15:54] <tung> yes
[15:54] <Zombocom> darkness_s: what's the command to get device info?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> tung, system settings /advanced/restricted driver enabled ?
[15:55] <tung> yes
[15:55] <tung> the status is in use
[15:56] <tung> my screen resolution is 1280:1024
[15:56] <darkness_s> Zombocom: try ifconfig
[15:57] <BluesKaj> ok tung, run ' fgl_glxgears ' in the terminal
[15:57] <darkness_s> Zombocom: it think it is HWaddr
[15:58] <tung> BluesKaj:there is a box spinning
[15:58] <Zombocom> darkness_s: there's no way that's a mac adress
[15:58] <neighborlee> Does anyone know if  cnr/freespire is going to stay afloat  ? ( Im asking due to fact that so long after a major release cnr software is still very buggy )
[15:58] <Zombocom> darkness_s: I mean i know that's where it should be but there's too many variables
[15:59] <BluesKaj> ok tung , now 'fglrxinfo' in the terminal
[16:00] <tung> BluesKaj:
[16:00] <tung> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[16:00] <tung> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[16:00] <tung> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon Xpress Series
[16:00] <tung> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6473 (8.37.6)
[16:00] <BluesKaj> tung, I'm at a loss ...your game should work :/
[16:01] <darkness_s> Zombocom: why not?, a normal MAC adress looks like this 00:14:a5:f2:14:22 right?
[16:02] <darkness_s> Zombocmo: from wikipedia The standard (IEEE 802) format for printing MAC-48 addresses in human-readable media is six groups of two hexadecimal digits, separated by hyphens (-) in transmission order, e.g. 01-23-45-67-89-ab
[16:03] <BluesKaj> tung, the radeon x200 card isn't the greatest graphics card for games even on windows ...it's suitable for videos etc but games require more graphics memory and processing power
[16:03] <tung> but I just play some simple, light games
[16:04] <BluesKaj> I have the same card tung , which games are you trying to play ?
[16:04] <tung> BluesKaj:triggers, openarena
[16:05] <tung> BluesKaj:bzflag
[16:06] <Rukus> hi, I am running compiz with XGL on an ATI card, and i like things full screen. SO naturally i set my kicker to allow applications to cover it and allow me to make it appear when i move the cursor to the screens edge. Except when i try to make it appaear by doing so, the kicker will not appear. Can anyone help me
[16:20] <espacious> i disabled knetwork manager not to start at boot
[16:20] <espacious> now i cannot find it anymore
[16:20] <espacious> how do i start it in shell?
[16:21] <espacious> it is not in the kde menu...
[16:21] <XenThraL> knetworkmanager
[16:21] <espacious> ty
[16:21] <XenThraL> yw
[16:24]  * genii sneaks away from work and sips a coffee
[16:26] <sillyforprez> how do i make a text file in konsole?
[16:26] <Tm_T> sillyforprez: nano file.txt ?
[16:27] <ybarras> bonsoir
[16:27] <sillyforprez> and then how do i save it? :P
[16:27] <Tm_T> sillyforprez: ctrl-X is exit, it'll ask saving
[16:28] <Vermux>  does sh shell different than bash shell?
[16:28] <Tm_T> Vermux: yes
[16:28] <genii> yes
[16:28] <sillyforprez> hm, then it got saved as file.txt.save?
[16:28]  * genii ponders sh/bash/dash
[16:29] <Tm_T> sillyforprez: no
[16:29] <sillyforprez> aah, i just messed up :P
[16:29] <sillyforprez> i get it now.. thanks m8
[16:31] <Vermux> is is a different shell?
[16:33] <genii> Vermux: For some info on this whole bash/dash/sh thing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh
[16:39] <Vermux> genii: the default of useradd is SHELL=/bin/sh. But the shell Im working with is currently bash. Why is it not the same shell for both?
[16:43] <genii> Vermux: Obviously you did not read at all the link i provided. Comprehensive explanations are given there and so I will not bother here to reiterate
[16:45] <Vermux> genii: the opposite
[16:46] <Vermux> genii: it is fine. u dont have to help ifu dont want. keep the information for yourself- it is important
[16:48] <genii> Vermux: The default shell which runs scripts when sh is called during boot is dash. the default shell which is what users log into is bash
[16:50] <Daisuke_Ido> Vermux: your attitude doesn't help.  your "i don't wanna do any work myself, tell me everything i have to do NOW!" mindset is in no way conducive to receiving help.
[16:51] <jpatrick> !patience | Vermux
[16:51] <ubotu> Vermux: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[16:52] <Voyage_> i ./configure    the tk right but when i make and make install.    http://pastebin.ca/798152
[16:52] <Voyage_> whats wrong
[16:52] <jpatrick> Voyage_: did you do: "./configure --prefix=/usr"
[16:52] <Voyage_> no
[16:52] <Vermux> Daisuke_Ido: dont judge before u know the details. Documentation sometimes is not enough
[16:53] <Voyage_> jpatrick,  no. but it gives the same result
[16:54] <jpatrick> Voyage_: I think you're missing header files..
[16:54] <Voyage_> jpatrick,  whats that
[16:54] <Daisuke_Ido> your attitude is what i was commenting on, not the link.  and as far as that goes, i did know the details.  your comment about "fine, keep the information to yourself" was out of line.
[16:54] <jpatrick> Voyage_: source files that contain details for functions
[16:55] <Voyage_> jpatrick,  so what should i do
[16:55] <Daisuke_Ido> now...  back to what i was doing
[16:55] <jpatrick> Voyage_: can you give my the programs homepage?
[16:55] <simi> genii: it didn;t work, after i restart i had the same problem, do you know  how linux knows where to search the internet, it must be something that all the application requesting the internet recivesm, i do not know how to search n google to find what i am looking for
[16:56] <Vermux> Daisuke_Ido: dear "judge" as I said u r not familiar with the details. my response was intended to comment on "Obviously you did not read at all the link i provided"- that was not reality
[16:56] <Voyage_> sure
[16:56] <Voyage_> http://www.tcl.tk/software/tcltk/8.4.html
[16:57] <genii> simi: I'll be available for assistance in about 10 minutes from now.
[16:59] <mith_> did anyone installed openttd correctly?
[16:59] <jpatrick> Voyage_: sorry, no idea what -dev packages you need to build that
[17:00] <Voyage_> hmm ok
[17:02] <Voyage_> Test run of ./eggdrop -v:
[17:02] <Voyage_> ./eggdrop: error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:02] <Voyage_> make: *** [modules] Error 127
[17:02] <Vermux> Daisuke_Ido: please, when u use quatations, write waht was written- dont change it. ("fine, keep the information to yourself") not what I wrote.
[17:04] <sitara_> Can I download a new ISO using a Kubuntu live cd and burn it to a new CD, when I have only one CD drive?
[17:05] <jhutchins> sitara_: Can't really.
[17:06] <sitara_> jhutchins: have to have the kubuntu live cd loaded the whole time?
[17:06] <jhutchins> sitara_: Yeah, it needs to be there for the software to load when you do the burn.
[17:07] <jhutchins> There may be another distro like tomsrtbt that can do it, I don't know.
[17:07] <jhutchins> Then you'd probably have to know how to burn with cdrecord though.
[17:07] <alberto> buona sera
[17:07] <sitara_> jhutchins: problem is I've got a screwed kubuntu/ubuntu system that won't connect to the network
[17:08] <sitara_> I can connect by booting from the live cd
[17:08] <sitara_> I want to re-install with the gnome desktop
[17:08] <jhutchins> sitara_: Ok, so download the iso with the live cd, then boot to the damaged system and burn.
[17:09] <jhutchins> don't need networking to burn.
[17:09] <sitara_> jhutchins:thanks duh :)
[17:10] <jhutchins> Hey, I've been on $150 service calls to plug in a monitor.
[17:10] <will> lucky you lol
[17:12] <Voyage_> i installed eggdrop from adept manager. where is it located to run ?
[17:13] <jpatrick> Voyage_: from the konsole
[17:14] <jhutchins> Voyage_: which eggdrop should tell you where it is.
[17:14]  * genii sips a coffee
[17:14] <sitara_> jhutchins:can you tell me where I'll find the download when I reboot?
[17:15] <Voyage_> how
[17:16] <jhutchins> sitara_: You tell it where to save.
[17:16] <jhutchins> sitara_: firefox usually puts stuff on the desktop, so you'd need to move it.
[17:17] <jhutchins> sitara_: mkdir /mnt/hd, mount your /home partition from the hd on that, move or save the iso.
[17:17] <jhutchins> sitara_: Know how to do that?
[17:17] <sitara_> jhutchins:yeah, but I'm using Konqueror. Does it also download to the Desktop?
[17:19] <alberto> goblin
[17:19] <alberto> msg NickServ HELP REGISTER
[17:19] <jhutchins> sitara_: konq should ask you where to save it.
[17:19] <jhutchins> alberto: /msg
[17:19] <alberto> thanks
[17:19] <jhutchins> /msg nickserv help register
[17:19] <sitara_> jhutchins:after downloading?
[17:20] <jhutchins> sitara_: Before iirc.
[17:20] <alberto>  /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER
[17:20] <jhutchins> sitara_: So you'd want to have the HD mounted first.
[17:20] <genii> simi: OK. So as i gather: You boot the computer, run the script which directs pppd to use the usb modem, it then seems to connect and work. But then if you disconnect the modem connection, the regular ethernet connection seems not working. then if you start the ethernet connection, it is working but then the modem is not working, etc etc. Is this about it?
[17:20] <jhutchins> alberto: Your reply will be in the server window, not the channel window.
[17:21] <jhutchins> genii: well... no, shouldn't be.
[17:21] <jhutchins> genii: Shouldn't be difficult to have two interfaces up, that's how a router works.
[17:21] <genii> jhutchins: He has a usb dialup
[17:22] <genii> not usb ADSL/cable
[17:22] <jhutchins> genii: Figure a dial-up ISP uses a modem on one line and an ethernet connection on the other.
[17:22] <genii> jhutchins: That is what I would hope, yes
[17:23] <jhutchins> genii: The first linux project I did was to create a router that automatically connected via the modem when anybody tried to acccess the 'net.
[17:23] <Serega> Hey, guys!
[17:23] <jhutchins> genii: So it talked to the local net via ethernet and a switch, and to the internet via dial-up.
[17:24] <Serega> my friend accidentaly installed (with --force) some version of xlib and he have troubles with it. Who does know how to reinstall native xlib?
[17:24] <Serega> I think it is an apt-related issue
[17:25] <genii> jhutchins: I suspected earlier his issue was that default route before script startup was ethX then needs to become pppX so that internet access used usb modem and not ethX. However i think it may be something deeper
[17:25] <jumperz> patata
[17:25] <jumperz> guarda sotto
[17:25] <jhutchins> genii: Yeah, you might need to tweak routing.
[17:26] <jhutchins> genii: It _should_ sort itself based on the address assigned to each interface.
[17:27] <jumperz> patata per scrivere usa lo spazio accanto al nick
[17:28] <genii> jhutchins: I am trying to find out from him what is the exact nature of what is operational/default at what stage so that it can be narrowed which interface needs to be exmained, etc etc
[17:28]  * genii tries to eat some lunch
[17:28] <bacli1> hello?
[17:28] <genii> simi: If you are around please describe again the nature of the issue
[17:29] <simi> genii: hi
[17:29] <genii> jhutchins: Incidentally the linuxrouter and fli4l projects were extremely interesting and useful :)  (as a sidenote)
[17:30] <simi> genii: sorry of my nick has changed i am not used with xchat and simi is the user from ubuntu
[17:32] <genii> simi: that is fine :) If you need, choose a different name which does not belong to a registered user.
[17:32] <simi> genii: after i restart i try to connect the modem but after 20 seconds the phone stops, i observed this behevior befoure when i used gnome ppp to connect the modem, this to devices will  not worck togheter after reboot
[17:33] <simi> genii: simion314 is my registred name, i set this to xchat but i do not know why it loged me with the sesion name
[17:34] <genii> simi: Before you restart and try to reconnect next time, pick up the telephone to see if there is still computer screeching sounds, or if for instance the dial tone sound is normal or different.
[17:34] <simi> genii: is not there some kind of config file that sets the mode how linux search the devices that connect to the internet, or it is not this the problem
[17:34] <genii> simi: If you hear still computer screeching sounds when computer has just been turned off, the modem is not being hung-up by the script
[17:35] <simi> genii: it works fine the 2 devices togheter, just after rebooting will not work
[17:37]  * bcoffiel44 absolute linux newb
[17:37] <bcoffiel44> hi all.  are kubuntu and ubuntu the same aside from the kde/gnome interface?
[17:37] <simi> genii: it sais there to stop it with command: kill pppd but this not works, and why this meathers,  if the modem is properly close?
[17:38] <genii> simi: Since you have indicated it is the modem which is being problemmatic after rebooting, that is the rreason i am asking you to physically lift up the telephone receiver and listen to see if the script that was provided to you is properly hanging the modem up. Or if it is not detecting a dialtone (eg you have messages waiting or there is something the script is not recognising as a dialtone and prevents it after 20 secinds or so
[17:38] <genii> from using it etc etc)
[17:38] <Jack111> hi
[17:38] <genii> simi: "kill pppd" will NOT hang up the modem
[17:38] <sillyforprez> what do i do when it says BREAK (install) on my compiz in adept? :/
[17:38] <Jack111> i s there a way to open kword or openoffice in one of the browser tabs?
[17:39] <Jack111> that could be helpful if you have to copy from webpages
[17:39] <genii> jhutchins: I think we are on the correct trail here :)
[17:40] <bcoffiel44> hi jack
[17:40] <Jack111> hi bcoffiel44
[17:42] <simi> genii: i will try tjat but lather, my ubuntu boots very slow , this is the next problem i want to solve, i belive it makes some suplimentar checks, it checks the file system and this takes ubuntu a lot of time, and other stuff, it boots in 2 or 3 minutes and i have 1200Mhz and 512 RAM
[17:43] <genii> Interesting. The AT DT command is indicating this may indeed be not a dialup modem which uses some telephone line but instead that it is a usb adsl modem. Since i sincerely doubt that #777  is some provider telephone number
[17:43] <jughead> Hi, I just changed out my video card to help figure out comp problems, I changed from an nvidia card to an ati card.  When I had the nvidia card I ran "nvidia-settings" to change things like res, refresh, etc.  is there something comparable for ati?
[17:44] <genii> eg: OK ATDT#777 \     CONNECT
[17:45] <sillyforprez> what do i do when the compiz packages in adept are broken?
[17:46] <astocko> jughead: You can try installing the restricted drivers for your ATI card first of all. Secondly, the nvidia drivers are Ubuntu community supported, the ATI drivers are not, so you'll get much better compatability using your nvidia card.
[17:47] <Jack111> nayone an idea how to open word or spreadsheet in a browser tab like in konqueror?
[17:48] <jughead> astocko, I installed the restricted driver using the restricted-driver-manager.  The monitor was randomly going blank (linux&windows) so I changed out vid cards to narrow down the possibilities.  I def. like nvidia more than ati. when nvidia installed, there was a control panel to change the resolution and refresh (a gui); but I don't see anything like that for ati
[17:49] <jughead> well; I just changed it through the kde control panel; hopefully the changes will stick on reboot
[17:50] <claetuss> jughead: I get sort of the same thing, resetting the monitor allows it to sync up, I'm also running ATI onboard
[17:50] <spcKDE> can amarok play file shared with samba on lan?
[17:51] <jughead> claetuss, how do you reset the monitor?  do you mean ctl+alt+bksp for restarting X?
[17:51] <claetuss> jughead: there are quite a few tutorials out there on getting the res, etc. you want by dicking with your xorg.conf file
[17:52] <claetuss> jug: no, simplest possible terms: power button (I'm running an hp w2007, it tries to detect res/settings and hangs up)
[17:53] <ubuntu> Hello everyone
[17:55] <ubuntu> can i use kubuntu live-CD to install kubuntu_
[17:57] <claetuss> ubuntu, sure can, an installer icon should be on your desktop as soon as you boot
[17:57]  * genii sips a coffee, and thinks about ATDT#777 and Verizon EVDO
[17:59] <mith_> ubuntu: yes you can
[17:59] <mith_> it's more or less the same as ubuntu
[17:59] <claetuss> i havent had to use at cmds since 2400bps modem and mac lcIII ;-P
[18:00] <mith_> did anybody installed the kopete desklist?
[18:03] <Shoiab> Hello
[18:04] <angasule> what's a good app to use hot corners? mostly I'd like a "show desktop" in the upper left and I'm sure I can think of something for the lower right (both of which have no useful widget there anyway)
[18:05] <Shoiab> I have install Kubuntu!!! but fail to browsing as well as chat behind ISA server!!! what should i do!! need a help or tutorial link!! is any one here can help to solve this problem???
[18:06] <SatManUK> i have a download stuck in my update server - when it tries to download it says its likely to cause a problem so quits - and its going around and around
[18:06] <sven_> Hi there, I have a test server running with ubuntu, and I would like it to run a time server. I have checked goodle, but I could not find good documentation on this subject.. Does anybody have a link / hint on how to do this?
[18:07] <claetuss> SatManUK, had a similar prob... try using apt-get install (whatever package you're trying to install)
[18:07] <SatManUK> libmjpeg tools
[18:07] <SatManUK> for mjpeg video capture
[18:07] <SatManUK> i don't even think i need it
[18:07] <Shoiab> I have install Kubuntu!!! but fail to browsing as well as chat behind ISA server!!! what should i do!! need a help or tutorial link!! is any one here can help to solve this problem???
[18:07] <SatManUK> its "non installed" but kubuntu has requested install of it
[18:08] <claetuss> The error message will be more verbose and probably be something stupid like a dependency your package manager can't resolve
[18:08] <CPrgmSwR2> What is a good alternative to swfmill for kubuntu because swfmill is not found?
[18:08] <astocko> sven: sudo apt-get install ntp
[18:08] <SatManUK> and remind me never to put a visualisation into full screen mode on my monitor it seriously destabalised my xserver
[18:09] <SatManUK> even restarting x ctrl backspace didn't recover it - i had to reboot the pc
[18:09] <claetuss> haha
[18:09] <sven_> astocko, I figured that one :) But what about configuration? I have no experience with that and I could not find a good tutorial on the subject
[18:09] <claetuss> that'll happen
[18:09] <astocko> sven_: Check out /etc/ntp.conf
[18:09] <astocko> sven_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#head-04e4a8decd8b98a33d0e9bd1209868a1022b7958 may be of help.
[18:09] <sven_> astocko, I will, thanks for the help!
[18:10] <sven_> astocko, that page looks like it has something useful.. Thanks!
[18:10] <SatManUK> there was an error commiting changes - either the package failed to download or the commit would break packages
[18:11] <claetuss> Sat: that's what you got in the terminal window?
[18:11] <SatManUK> thats in adept updater
[18:12] <spcKDE> what are linux-restricted modules?
[18:12] <SatManUK> i can't get rid of it
[18:12] <SatManUK> i click cancel changes but it stays put
[18:12] <cheeprey> hello everybody
[18:12] <genii> spcKDE: Proprietary hardware drivers
[18:12] <spcKDE> genii: so no good if i remove..?
[18:13] <claetuss> sorry, I should've specified to use terminal window. That's the same error I was getting
[18:13] <genii> spcKDE: It depends if your system is using any of the proprietary drivers or not.
[18:13] <claetuss> can you close adept? maybe just kill it?
[18:14] <genii> spcKDE: If you installed ATI/Nvidia/broadcom stuff for instance from restricted-manager it would not be prudent
[18:14] <spcKDE> genii: coz i removed nvidia-kernell-common , becouse i dont have nvidia, but i have for example ndiswrapper set up and now im worried those packages can screw sth up
[18:15] <coreymon77> spcKDE: what are you using ndis for?
[18:15] <spcKDE> genii: a usb wlan adapter
[18:15] <spcKDE> coreymon77: usb wlan adapter
[18:15] <coreymon77> spcKDE: you sure you need to use ndis for it?
[18:15] <spcKDE> sure
[18:16] <spcKDE> its an trident usb
[18:16] <spcKDE> that was the only way to get it work
[18:16] <coreymon77> spcKDE: okay
[18:16] <coreymon77> spcKDE: just making sure
[18:16] <coreymon77> spcKDE: so, whats the poblem
[18:17] <Nightwarrior> I am new with linux/kubuntu
[18:17] <coreymon77> Nightwarrior: welcome!
[18:17] <Nightwarrior> I can't find out how to install Beryl
[18:17] <coreymon77> !compiz | Nightwarrior
[18:17] <ubotu> Nightwarrior: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[18:17] <spcKDE> coreymon77: u have another way to do it? maybe? coz im getting some wired stuff with knetwork manager, wlan networks are not found at startup of kubuntu so i must wait or go and change to gnome and than back
[18:18] <Nightwarrior> kk
[18:18] <coreymon77> spcKDE: whats the specific card
[18:18] <sven_> !aptgix
[18:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptgix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:18] <sven_> !aptfix
[18:18] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:19] <spcKDE> coreymon77: the problem i was askig is if it is safe to remove some packages that were arked as REMOVE when i mar REMOVE nvidia-kenel-common, becouse i dont need that i think coz it's a old lappy with s3 xideo card
[18:20] <spcKDE> coreymon77: aaa lappy keyboard is to small:D
[18:21] <coreymon77> spcKDE: it should be, im not sure though
[18:21] <spcKDE> coreymon77: what shoul be?
[18:21] <spcKDE> coreymon77: did u anderstood my q?
[18:22] <genii> spcKDE: At any rate, you can find if you are using some restricted drivers or not etc by kdesu restricted-manager          the it should come up with info about anything relevant.
[18:22] <Nightwarrior> What do I need to add for compiz in Adapt thing?
[18:22] <genii> spcKDE: If you are not using any currently (even if they are available) you can likely remove restricted-modules  package
[18:23] <spcKDE> genii: kk got it thanks
[18:23] <genii> spcKDE: np
[18:23] <Nightwarrior> I did request install at the Compiz thing is that right or?
[18:24] <spcKDE> genii: it said your hardware dont need any drivers...bla bla bal
[18:24] <spcKDE> nice
[18:25] <spcKDE> genii: those packages are quite big
[18:25] <MarcC> how do I get mp3s working in amarok?
[18:25] <coreymon77> !mp3
[18:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:26] <Pollywog> is there a way to get Linux running as a guest OS in VirtualBox to have the correct time after a reboot?
[18:26] <Pollywog> other than to run ntpdate at each reboot
[18:27] <spcKDE> genii:  oh btw i have another q, can i make amarok play files over lan, i mean samba sharing..
[18:28] <Nightwarrior> hmm stilld ont real
[18:28] <Nightwarrior> woops
[18:28] <MarcC> spcKDE: I mounted my share using a CIFS howto and it worked fine
[18:28] <Nightwarrior> still don't really get it
[18:29] <spcKDE> MarcC:  yes i was thinking to mount but is there no other way?
[18:30] <MarcC> spcKDE: well, you can certainly play over the share using e.g. VLC, but it's not very fun
[18:30] <spcKDE> MarcC: can u maybe paste me the link of that specific tutorial ?
[18:30] <MarcC> maybe u hold on while I google 4 u
[18:30] <spcKDE> MarcC: i want to play mp3's
[18:31] <genii> spcKDE: For that q you'll have to wait til some amarok-familiar person replies :)
[18:31] <spcKDE> will google it to
[18:31] <MarcC> spcKDE: mp3 support and samba/cifs are two separate issues
[18:31] <spcKDE> genii: huh ty, will spam it again_D
[18:31] <spcKDE> MarcC: i dont get it?
[18:32] <astocko> spcKDE: Accessing shares over cifs has nothing to do with playing mp3s.
[18:32] <MarcC> spcKDE: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288534
[18:32] <spcKDE> MarcC: its not enough just to mount a share?
[18:32] <MarcC> spcKDE: you can mount a share and play OGG files fine, but MP3s are restricted, so you'll need to install MP3 support too.
[18:32] <Nightwarrior> simple question for gutsy download wut one I need to download? Alternate or Desktop CD? For gutsy
[18:33] <ardchoille> Nightwarrior: The desktop cd is the live cd, the alternate cd is text-mode only
[18:33] <spcKDE> MarcC: huh tnx will do some resarch
[18:33] <Pollywog> alternate is for laptops and other situations where the desktop version does not work because of the graphical installer
[18:33] <Nightwarrior> So I guess the Desktop I want to update from Feisty to gutsy
[18:34] <ardchoille> !upgrade | Nightwarrior
[18:34] <ubotu> Nightwarrior: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[18:34] <Pollywog> Nightwalker-: if you want to do a clean install, yes
[18:34] <Pollywog> oops Nightwarrior
[18:34] <MarcC> darnit, amarok won't play mp3s even though I've installed every last restricted library there is :-/
[18:34] <Pollywog> dang completion
[18:35]  * Pollywog hits the completion thingy
[18:35] <ardchoille> Pollywog: I can't tell you how many times tab completion has bitten me
[18:39] <jhutchins> People who choose nicks that start with the same words are partly to blame.
[18:39]  * genii sics his TAB key on ardchoille
[18:39] <ardchoille> Hi genii
[18:40] <genii> ardchoille: Hiyas :)
[18:43] <genii> MarcC: libxine1-ffmpeg and also make sure amarok is using xine  eg: amarok-xine
[18:44] <MarcC> thanks genii - tried that...apparently though, only *some* mp3s will not play
[18:44] <MarcC> but they will play fine in other programs, like audacious
[18:45] <genii> Probably malformed tags or such
[18:46] <MarcC> it won't let me play streaming stations on its list :( same error msg.
[18:46] <MarcC> like afterhours fm, bassdrive, etc.
[18:46] <genii> For those you need realplayer
[18:47] <MarcC> genii: then why do they come preinstalled in Amarok's station list?
[18:47] <anton_> Hi, I try to open adept, but it crashes...this is the backtrace: http://pastebin.org/9476
[18:47] <anton_> "caused signal 6 (SIGABRT)"
[18:49] <genii> MarcC: Dunno
[18:53] <anton_> Hi, I try to open adept, but it crashes...this is the backtrace: http://pastebin.org/9476 <---Anyone? :(
[18:54]  * MarcC switches to rhythmbox
[18:58] <ardchoille> I didn't realise kde came with tools to start apps in the systray or in another desktop, nice.
[18:59] <Doctor_Nick> is there a driver for windows that allows you to mount and modify linux partitions
[19:06] <anton_> Guys, I seriously need help with this one. My adept manager is crashing, it says the database is locked and it says another adept instance is running. However, I sudokilled all the adept-processes, and it still won't work. This is the backtrace: http://pastebin.org/9476
[19:08] <cayetano1> hi@all
[19:08] <a> a
[19:09] <cayetano1> hab heute versucht kubuntu zu instalieren auf nem vista rechner, und jetzt ist er platt
[19:10] <llutz> !de | cayetano1
[19:10] <ubotu> cayetano1: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[19:10] <cayetano1> ups, sry
[19:10] <anton_> !se | anton_
[19:10] <cayetano1> i thougt this was the german room, sorry
[19:11] <cox> hello all, ive seen people refer to ICS sharing in firestarter to share a bridged internet connection, is there a command to do the same thing?
[19:12] <nosrednaekim> cox: as a general rule in linux,of you can do it in a GUI, you can do it on the command line
[19:13] <cox> nosrednaekim: haha
[19:13] <nosrednaekim> cox: the gentoo-wiki has some good tutorials..
[19:13] <nosrednaekim> with some retty technical stuff like that
[19:13] <nosrednaekim> *pretty
[19:14] <martijn81> i cannot get a file kde4daily-0_0_1_r734472-qcow.img.bz2 decompressed... do i have to install some sort of tool?
[19:14] <anton_> I tried looking at bugs.kde.org but I couldn't find an answer to Adept saying that the database is locked...Signal 6 SIGABRT...will I have to format the disk or something?
[19:14] <SSJ_GZ> martijn81: #kde4daily, please :)
[19:15] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[19:15] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[19:15] <cox> nosrednaekim: cheers
[19:16] <morphine> Well folks, it finally happened: the upgrade from feisty to gutsy hosed my system
[19:16] <emilsedgh> SSJ_GZ: looks like that kde4daily helped.nice job :)
[19:16] <SSJ_GZ> emilsedgh: Thanks :)
[19:17] <Pollywog> morphine: did you forget to upgrade Feisty first?
[19:17] <nosrednaekim> morphine: you just upgraded now? or has it been upgrade for awhile
[19:17] <morphine> Pollywog: oh, I meant from feisty to gutsy ;)
[19:17] <anton_> I get this error when trying to run apt-get update:
[19:17] <anton_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail                   able)
[19:17] <anton_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc                   ess using it?
[19:17] <anton_> (sorry for paste)
[19:17] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix | anton_
[19:17] <ubotu> anton_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[19:18] <genii> anton_: Use sudo
[19:18] <morphine> The upgrade manager program kept crashing and leaving my machine in a weird halfway state
[19:18] <Pollywog> morphine: yes I know, but did you upgrade Feisty to the latest packages in Feisty before upgrading to Gutsy?
[19:18] <anton_> genii: I did.
[19:18] <morphine> Pollywog: yes, I did that
[19:18] <Pollywog> k
[19:18] <nosrednaekim> Pollywog: the word is "update"
[19:18] <genii> Also close anything else that may be using it, open update windows, etc etc
[19:18] <morphine> apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade, yeah I did all that before starting on the adventure
[19:18] <Pollywog> nosrednaekim: yes thanks I meant to say update
[19:19] <anton_> genii: I have done that. Tried rebooting too. Still the same
[19:19] <Pollywog> the fingers did not listen
[19:19] <morphine> So anyway after the ipgrade manager program crashed I did some combination of apt-get dist-upgrade and do-release-upgrade
[19:19] <genii> anton_: then do the !aptfix
[19:19] <morphine> And although that seemed to work, and machine still boots, I have no network interfaces, can't launch KDE, and my system is generally hosed
[19:19] <nosrednaekim> morphine: any errors?
[19:19] <morphine> It boots with the new kernel and all
[19:19] <morphine> nosrednaekim: any errors where?
[19:20] <nosrednaekim> morphine: well, ok... does KDM(the login manager) start?
[19:20] <morphine> nosrednaekim: no
[19:20] <morphine> nosrednaekim: when i disabled the nvidia driver and went back to nv I could launch xfce by typing startx
[19:20] <nosrednaekim> morphine: run a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[19:20] <anton_> Great! Works now. Big thanks!
[19:20] <morphine> nosrednaekim: but still no luck getting kde or kdm started
[19:21] <morphine> nosrednaekim: I did that
[19:21] <morphine> nosrednaekim: when the machine boots it does throw some error about exim
[19:21] <morphine> when I try to start kde -- startkde -- I get some kinit error
[19:21] <morphine> More troubling, I no longer have any network interfaces
[19:22] <nosrednaekim> morphine: run "startx && startkde"
[19:22] <morphine> nosrednaekim: I tried that too, and it just starts xfce ;)
[19:22] <morphine> So i am thinking that maybe the easiest solution is to wipe the slate clean and resintall
[19:23] <Pollywog> morphine: the exim error is probably because exim can't find network interfaces
[19:23] <morphine> I have / and /home on different disks, so I think it should be pretty painless
[19:23] <nosrednaekim> morphine: run a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" and select kdm as your default login manager
[19:23] <nosrednaekim> morphine: ah, if you have that...no problem XD
[19:23] <Pollywog> morphine check the udev entries for your interfaces
[19:23] <morphine> nosrednaekim: do you think that is recommended? because I am a bit worried about losing some stuff
[19:24] <nosrednaekim> morphine: you won't lose a thing unless you stored stuff in / or installed programs not in the repositories.
[19:24] <morphine> Well, some configuration stuff in /etc and whatnot
[19:24] <a> à
[19:24] <Pollywog> morphine: make sure the names for the interfaces in udev match the ones in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:25] <morphine> nosrednaekim: but I guess my concern is this: my system ALWAYS get hosed when I upgrade
[19:25] <nosrednaekim> morphine: do you use automatix or anything like that?
[19:25] <morphine> nosrednaekim: nope
[19:25] <Pollywog> 70-persistent-net.rules
[19:25] <morphine> nosrednaekim: do alot of people have problems with this? if so, I might switch to another distro
[19:26] <Pollywog> 70-persistent-net.rules
[19:26] <nosrednaekim> morphine: occasionally there are problems, I wouldn't say its rare, but i'm sure you'll find upgrade hassles in any distro except the likes of gentoo and arch.
[19:26] <Pollywog> morphine /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[19:26] <morphine> I was thinking debian
[19:27] <nosrednaekim> morphine: yeah, well try sidux... they have a nice rolling release.
[19:27] <anton_> Where is the sessions manager in Kubuntu?
[19:28] <Pollywog> mporphine: I am having the same problems with upgrades in *ubuntu but it happened in Debian only once when it switched to 2.6 kernels
[19:28] <Pollywog> and I had a 2.4 kernel
[19:28] <nosrednaekim> anton_: systemsettings->advanced
[19:28] <morphine> Pollywog: so you are using debisn now?
[19:28] <Pollywog> morphine: no, still kubuntu but I upgrade one system at a time
[19:29] <Pollywog> and carfully
[19:29] <Pollywog> carefully
[19:29] <morphine> haha
[19:29] <Pollywog> I had to do a clean reinstall on one
[19:29] <boggystudios> is there a probram that will capture video from a mini dv cam via usb?
[19:29] <morphine> When I upgraded kubuntu on my laptop it broke some stuff too
[19:29] <boggystudios> *program
[19:29] <anton_> nosrednaekim: Thank you.
[19:29] <nosrednaekim> boggystudios: kino might
[19:29] <morphine> But that involved ndiswrapper and custom alsa install, so that was understandable
[19:29] <Pollywog> and the next time it happens I will move that system to Debian
[19:30] <boggystudios> nosrednaekim: kino only has firewire support
[19:30] <morphine> So sidux or debian have rolling upgrades, right?
[19:30] <morphine> What is the advantage to doing it the (k)ubuntu way?
[19:30] <Pollywog> morphine: the last Debian I used was Etch, which did not detect hardware as well as *ubuntu does
[19:30] <nosrednaekim> morphine: I do not think debain has rolling releases.
[19:31] <Pollywog> morphine: if you are planning to put Debian on a laptop that has wifi, it might not work
[19:31] <judgen> how do i change the user agent in konqueror
[19:31] <morphine> Pollywog: I had to use ndsiwrapper with kubuntu anyway
[19:31] <Pollywog> I also had problems with wifi in Xandros but not in Freespire
[19:32] <Pollywog> morphine: oic
[19:32] <morphine> sigh
[19:32] <morphine> Well, I think I will give kubuntu one more try
[19:32] <luigi> ot question: wath kind of application do you use for sync your mobile to pc?
[19:33] <Pollywog> kpilot for Palm devices
[19:33] <nosrednaekim> boggystudios: no idea then
[19:33] <ardchoille> judgen: Tools > Change Browser Identification
[19:33] <cybrhuman> Hi, I got a dual boot pc which I will make a single-boot kubuntu, and wonder how this is done best. (can I just set kubuntu partition active partition and format windows?)
[19:33] <morphine> so when I reinstall kubuntu and I point /home to my current /home, when I launch apps like kmail will they look as they did before the install with all the email etc?
[19:34] <luigi> sonyericsson mobile z610... i should sync mms too
[19:34] <Pollywog> morphine: yes it should look the same
[19:34] <Pollywog> if you keep /home
[19:35] <morphine> Pollywog: and do I need to keep the username the same also?
[19:35] <morphine> I geuss I would huh
[19:35] <Pollywog> morphine: if you don't, you will have some work to do
[19:36] <Pollywog> I would add the new user and then copy the old files and directories over after changing ownerships
[19:37] <morphine> ok, thanks for your advice guys
[19:38] <nosrednaekim> cybrhuman: what do you want to do with the windows part?
[19:38] <nosrednaekim> *partition
[19:39] <cybrhuman> nosrednaekim: just have it for saving stuff
[19:40] <cybrhuman> nosrednaekim: maybe I will move /home there so I can reinstall easy if things bug without thinking to much about backup
[19:41] <nosrednaekim> cybrhuman: the second option is slightly more difficult,but for the first all you need to do is wipe that parition and reformat ext3
[19:42] <cybrhuman> nosrednaekim: this wont screw my boot?
[19:42] <nosrednaekim> cybrhuman: not if you are using grub.
[19:42] <nosrednaekim> (as opposed to the windows bootloader)
[19:43] <usuario> hola
[19:44] <thomas_newbie__> do you guys know how to search for a word ignoring case using 'grep', without using the -i option. ?