[07:09]  * RAOF reboots again to see if he can get NVIDIA working
[07:22] <Saviq> RAOF (he/they): don't stress it, I've tried in the lab and was fine
[07:22] <RAOF> Saviq: Lunar appears to have decided that NVIDIA isn't going to display.
[07:22] <RAOF> AMD works fine, though. (Although it looks like it's missing the layout for amdgpu.ids)
[07:32] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** RAOF opened [pull request #2860](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2860): Multiplexing display... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/2da1ebd6d3fc2864e07742f5703c05fd31b4b67e>)
[07:49] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** bors[bot] merged [pull request #2856](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2856): cmake: modernize find_package and use imported targets
 "AMD works fine, though. (..." <- Not in spec ;P
[08:01] <Saviq> OK, it was just missing the amdgpu.ids file itself
[10:03] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** Saviq assigned  to [pull request #2860](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2860): Multiplexing display
[11:56] <Saviq> Need i386 bits in graphics-test-tools… if only they were available in the archive…
[11:57] <alan_g[m]> Saviq: You just need "package-repositories:" with "architectures: [i386]"
[11:59] <Saviq> Except not, they're not built/published for i386
[11:59] <alan_g[m]> Oh, you mean the tools, not the libs they need!
[11:59] <Saviq> Yup
 "You just need "package-repositor..." <- also… that approach doesn't work very well… https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapcraft/+bug/2009278
[16:34] <Saviq> Clocking out o/
[16:34] <Saviq> Talk tomorrow :)
[20:19] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** wmww opened [pull request #277](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/pull/277): Test XDG shell (stable) version 5
[20:25] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** wmww opened [issue #2861](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2861): Add support for "reactive" XDG shell popups... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/e7e04cbf24fb4553505594565c617aeab86d1dd0>)
[20:29] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** wmww opened [pull request #2862](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2862): Detect cyclic parent-child relationships
[20:29] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server-
[20:29] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- > Required to pass the new WLCS tests added by https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/pull/277
[20:30] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** wmww opened [issue #2863](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2863): Mir crashes when cyclic parent-child relationships created
[20:30] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server-
[20:30] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- > Tested by https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/pull/277, fixed by #2862.
[20:33] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** wmww assigned  to [pull request #277](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/pull/277): Test XDG shell (stable) version 5
[20:33] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** wmww assigned  to [pull request #2862](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2862): Detect cyclic parent-child relationships
[20:34] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** wmww requested a review from AlanGriffiths for [pull request #2784](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2784): Bump XDG shell stable protocol from version 1 to 5
[20:34] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** wmww marked [pull request #2784](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2784): Bump XDG shell stable protocol from version 1 to 5 as ready for review
[20:37] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** wmww unassigned  from [pull request #2862](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2862): Detect cyclic parent-child relationships
[21:46] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** wmww unassigned  from [pull request #277](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/pull/277): Test XDG shell (stable) version 5
[23:15] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** RAOF opened [issue #278](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/issues/278): WLCS depends on compositor-specific behaviour... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/85368d8f129c87195be2afa01ec56fc2cd298f91>)
[23:15] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** RAOF edited [issue #278](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/issues/278): WLCS depends on compositor-specific behaviour
[23:15] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** RAOF opened [issue #279](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/issues/279): WLCS assumes that the dimensions of the `wl_output` are the only popup positioning constraints
[23:15] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** RAOF edited [issue #278](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/issues/278): WLCS depends on compositor-specific behaviour
[23:15] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** RAOF opened [issue #280](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/issues/280): WLCS assumes that clicking outside a non-grabbing xdg_popup dismisses the popup tree
[23:15] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** RAOF opened [issue #281](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/issues/281): WLCS assumes that a newly-mapped window gains input focus
[23:15] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** RAOF edited [issue #278](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/issues/278): WLCS depends on compositor-specific behaviour
[23:15] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** RAOF edited [issue #278](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/issues/278): WLCS depends on compositor-specific behaviour
[23:15] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** RAOF opened [issue #282](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/issues/282): WLCS assumes it can arbitrarily position windows
[23:16] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** RAOF edited [issue #278](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/issues/278): WLCS depends on compositor-specific behaviour
[23:16] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** RAOF edited [issue #278](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/issues/278): WLCS depends on compositor-specific behaviour
[23:18] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** RAOF closed [issue #282](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/issues/282): WLCS assumes it can arbitrarily position windows
[23:18] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** RAOF closed [issue #281](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/issues/281): WLCS assumes that a newly-mapped window gains input focus
[23:42] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/wlcs]** wmww opened [pull request #283](https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/pull/283): [RFC] Copy geometry headers from Mir
[23:42] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server-
[23:42] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- > We've discussed doing this in the past, and the recent work I've done on popup positioning logic got especially annoying without some sort of proper geometry types. The complexity of the Mir ones is arguably overkill for wlcs (some might even argue overkill for Mir), but they're familiar to the Mir team and easy to use. I adapted the layer shell tests to show how they can be used in WLCS, but there's still a lot more work and code churn
[23:42] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- to fully use them.


[09:50] <thresh> how can I know which interfaces are autoconnected on a snap published via store?
[17:46] <mup> PR snapd#6534 opened: tests: remove snapweb from tests <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6534>
[22:04] <mup> PR snapcraft#2484 closed: project loader: remove special LD_LIBRARY_FLAGS handling for classic <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2484>


[21:28] <Diddy403> yooo
[21:30] <Diddy403> Im having issues with MythBuntu, for whatever reason I cannot find out how to change my OS audio settings; only the MythTV audio seems to function properly.
[21:33] <superm1> mythbuntu doesn't use pulseaudio like standard ubuntu does
[21:33] <superm1> so you may not be able to do audio mixing
[21:33] <superm1> unless you start mucking around with a .asoundrc
[21:37] <Diddy403> Im just trying to play audio in xbmc
[21:38] <Diddy403> theres no Audio Settings page... so its a bit weird for me to troubleshoot or figure out whats going on
[21:39] <Diddy403> by Audio Settings I mean, if Im on the desktop and I open "Settings" via the Application bar, I see a big list of settings, but nothing for Audio
[21:39] <Diddy403> I was hoping to be able to troubleshoot or choose my default device or anything, but I cant seem to find the option
[21:39] <superm1> ah
[21:39] <superm1> so make sure mythfrontend is closed before you try to even open xbmc
[21:39] <Diddy403> it is of course
[21:39] <superm1> we don't install a graphical audio configuration application
[21:40] <superm1> you can adjust the mixer using the command line tool "alsamixer"
[21:40] <Diddy403> tried that
[21:40] <Diddy403> but theres no option in alsamixer for like "test this audio device" or "set this as default"
[21:40] <superm1> oh
[21:40] <Diddy403> plus doing it via terminal is a bitch
[21:40] <Zinn> Diddy403: Please watch your language.
[21:41] <Diddy403> is there some gui package I can install for ubuntu-audiosettings-manager or something?
[21:41] <superm1> there used to be an XFCE control panel applet you could install to get audio settings graphically
[21:41] <superm1> but you can also use 'aplay' command line tool for sound playback (just to test)
[21:42] <Diddy403> I looked under xfce4- anything but there was only the volume daemon
[21:42] <superm1> xfce4-mixer is what you're probably looking for
[21:43] <qwebirc53508> Hi, have just upgraded to 0.26 and now have "All tuners are busy". Have HDHomerun and 2 x hauppague dvb tuners. Setup is able to channel scan no problem.
[21:43] <Diddy403> superm1, thank you
[21:43] <superm1> have you rebooted since upgrading?
[21:43] <superm1> Diddy403: sure
[21:44] <Diddy403> quick off topic question, how you so quickly type a message direct to my name? i use KVirc and I dont think thats an option
[21:44] <Diddy403> superm1: nevermind I got it, Im not smart
[21:45] <superm1> Diddy403: first  fwe letters of name and then "tab" to complete it
[21:45] <superm1> oh ok
[21:45] <Diddy403> wow thats faster actually
[21:45] <Diddy403> I was clicking on ur name and then type
[21:45] <Diddy403> and it worked
[21:46] <qwebirc53508> Yep rebooted twice.
[21:47] <superm1> qwebirc53508: ok, so are the tuners properly hooked up to those channel sources in mythtv-setup then?
[21:47] <qwebirc53508> looks ok, was all working on 0.25 before the upgrade. Have also disabled the EIT scan for all tuners
[21:49] <superm1> are the backend logs indicative of what's going on?
[21:49] <superm1> could  be a botched SQL update or something
[21:53] <qwebirc53508> just stopping backend and clearing logs.
[22:00] <qwebirc53508> I'm getting lots of this sort of thing: C thread_unknown mythcommandlineparser.cpp:2545 (ConfigureLogging) mythbackend version: fixes/0.26 [v0.26.0-29-gbcd34da] www.mythtv.org
[22:00] <qwebirc53508> Is it possible to re-run the schema convertion manually (updated via the mythbuntu repos earlier)?
[22:01] <superm1> qwebirc53508: can you pastebin your log so i can see more context?
[22:01] <superm1> !pastebin | qwebirc53508
[22:01] <Zinn> qwebirc53508: when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[22:05] <qwebirc53508> Sorry, pastebin here: http://pastebin.com/Yi2NzKqV
[22:05] <Zinn> [pastebin.com] qwebirc53508 - Pastebin.com
[22:06] <superm1> that's the whole log?
[22:06] <superm1> it makes it seem like the backend didn't finish starting up
[22:06] <qwebirc53508> Doh! missed some, two ticks.
[22:08] <superm1> you can actually use the app "pastebinit"
[22:09] <superm1> it makes making a pastebin a lot easier
[22:09] <superm1> you just call "pastebinit $FILE"
[22:14] <qwebirc53508> Thanks, much easier, new to IRC. new link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354269/
[22:14] <Zinn> [paste.ubuntu.com] Ubuntu Pastebin
[22:15] <superm1> Ok so in that pastebin, have you attempted to watch from teh frontend to trigger that error, or is that just a fresh run of the backend?
[22:16] <qwebirc53508> Just a fresh run of the backend, FE is off at the moment.
[22:17] <qwebirc53508> Mythweb also reports all tuners are remote and (currently not connected), Odd as two of the tuners are USB.
[22:35] <superm1> well that's really bizarre
[22:35] <superm1> i'm not really sure what's going on there
[22:35] <superm1> maybe remove all the tuners and add them again or something?
[22:36] <qwebirc53508> thanks, will give it a go.
[22:36] <superm1> cool.  if that doesn't work out, you might consider asking around in #mythtv-users too, those guys might have some more bright ideas
[22:50] <qwebirc53508> Thanks, re-added tuners, now seems OK. Odd..... Thanks again for your help.


[00:31] <lpotter> josharenson: there is a declarative plugin: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-dbus
[00:32] <josharenson> lpotter, thanks I'll take a look. Don't want to add too much bloat just to handle my single special case :-)
[08:50] <tsdgeos> Cimi: what's missing for top approval of https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/moreAsyncDash/+merge/241524 ?
[08:51] <tsdgeos> our CI is still down, right
[08:51] <tsdgeos> ?
[09:05] <Cimi> tsdgeos, ye
[09:46] <tsdgeos> is the store scope empty for you guys too?
[09:47] <Saviq> tsdgeos, remove U1 account, add it back
[09:50] <tsdgeos> USC just crashed :S
[09:53] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yeah, it happened to me a few times, too
[09:53] <tsdgeos> Saviq: what's your opinion on https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/fixHamburgerMenu/+merge/243371 ?
[09:54] <Saviq> tsdgeos, I *think* it should be a dropdown, so same colors as the header
[09:55] <tsdgeos> i think this is not what we had
[09:55] <tsdgeos> but ok
[09:55] <Saviq> tsdgeos, it's not because no one considered it
[09:55] <Saviq> tsdgeos, I'd have just assumed that if I set the background and foreground of the header, it would do the right thing
[09:55] <Saviq> unless I override it that is
[09:56] <mzanetti> Saviq: hey.
[09:56] <Saviq> mzanetti, oi!
[09:56] <mzanetti> Saviq: testing the silo on the phone yesterday revealed that hamburger thing
[09:56] <mzanetti> Saviq: but also it crashes constantly
[09:56] <mzanetti> and randomly
[09:57] <Saviq> mzanetti, it's usc that crashes, is it?
[09:57] <Saviq> tsdgeos, mzanetti, I'd hope for bug 1400449 to be fixed in that silo too
[09:57] <ubot5`> bug 1400449 in qtdeclarative-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "qmltestrunner crashed with SIGABRT during unity8 tests" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1400449
[09:57] <mzanetti> haven't found any culprit but in like 20 mins the shell went away like 5 times at least
[09:57] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: what's in /var/crash ?
[09:57] <Saviq> mzanetti, I think it's usc, not the shell
[09:57] <mzanetti> might be
[09:58] <mzanetti> Saviq: yeah, its usc
[09:58] <mzanetti> according to var/crash
[09:58] <tsdgeos> Saviq: can't parse the sentence, you mean you're expecting me to come up with a workaround for that crash before landing the silo?
[09:58] <tsdgeos> or that the workaound is already there?
[09:58] <Saviq> tsdgeos, I'd like that, yes, as this somehow got introduced by the new bottom edge landing
[09:59] <tsdgeos> Saviq: ok, let me try to find out what was wrong with https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/deparment_jumping/+merge/243639 and i'll do that next
[09:59] <Saviq> tsdgeos, tx
[10:00] <tsdgeos> Saviq: can you reproduce on desktop or only phone?
[10:00] <Saviq> tsdgeos, the test? it's a qml test, on desktop
[10:00] <tsdgeos> ok
[10:00] <Saviq> testDash
[10:00] <tsdgeos> sure, but i meant if it crashes on the desktop too
[10:01] <tsdgeos> but yeah, there's a x86 there so yes :D
[10:05]  * Saviq not really here, recovering
[10:07] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: ping
[10:25] <facundobatista> Hola!
[10:38] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: hey
[10:38] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: not sure i understand your comment in https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/deparment_jumping/+merge/243639
[10:40] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: I'll try again... but last time I applied this patch, when I opened the store I could only see apps from the Music department
[10:40] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: where you in the music deparment in the apps scope?
[10:40] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: apps scope
[10:40] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: yes, apps scope, but where you in the music department or in the all department?
[10:41] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: it said "All" iirc, when I clicked on the departments dropdown, it only had "All" and "Music" in there
[10:41] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: you're not answerin my question :D
[10:42] <mzanetti> I guess I don't understand it then
[10:42] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: when you clicked in the store icon, you where in the apps scope, in which department?
[10:43] <mzanetti> "All"
[10:43] <tsdgeos> ok
[10:43] <tsdgeos> i don't see how that could happen tbh
[10:43] <mzanetti> atm the store doesn't show anything any more here :/
[10:43] <mzanetti> with deel-proposed
[10:43] <mzanetti> probably OA broken again
[10:44] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: anyway if you're going to check bug is fixed you should get the two branches i linked this morning too
[10:44] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: yes, remove your UbuntuOne
[10:44] <mzanetti> *again*
[10:50] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, ping
[10:50] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: hi
[10:51] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, hey, can you take a look at the problem from the comment for https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/deparment_jumping/+merge/243639
[10:51] <tsdgeos> i already have
[10:51] <tsdgeos> and i need mzanetti to look at it again
[10:51] <tsdgeos> i can't reproduce what he says
[10:52] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: hmmm...
[10:52] <mzanetti> I think I've fallen for the actual bug when I tried it
[10:52] <tsdgeos> maybe
[10:52] <mzanetti> it only does that when you're going to a department first and then open the store
[10:53] <tsdgeos> you may want to try all the branches together and check it's fixed then :D
[10:53] <mzanetti> yep
[10:53] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, mzanetti btw we have this fix in silo 10 (i'm just rebuilding it atm to pick yesterday's landing o Manage Dash)
[10:53] <mzanetti> ah nice
[11:23] <tsdgeos> Saviq: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/fix_testDash/+merge/244114
[12:08] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: ping
[12:15] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, pong
[12:18] <mzanetti> Saviq: why is bump_manange_dash in silo3 and silo4?
[12:20] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: can you add  lp:~aacid/unity8/fix_testDash  to that rtm manage dash?
[12:21] <tsdgeos> and someone review it :D
[12:21] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: we don't want to merge stuff that make test fail to rtm
[12:23] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: is this only to be appled to rtm?
[12:23] <mzanetti> that fix_testDash
[12:23] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: no, to trunk too
[12:23] <mzanetti> k
[12:23] <mzanetti> reviewing it
[12:24] <tsdgeos> tx
[12:24] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, url of the MP pls?
[12:24] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/fix_testDash/+merge/244114
[12:26] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, we need separate MP for rtm. let's land it in vivid first and then cherry pick
[12:27] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: i'm just saying, that i think (maybe wrong) i saw a branch where you were planning to land the other stuff of the manage dash, maybe wait until we can land with this?
[12:27] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, Ill add it to our landing of departments fix, ok?
[12:27] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, yes. i've just added a row to the spreadsheet, it will wait
[12:27] <tsdgeos> ok :)
[12:34] <pstolowski> Saviq, ok if we land unity8 version bump together with our stuff in #42?
[12:50] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: approved. is this meant to go into the current silo?
[12:51] <mzanetti> pstolowski: what's the ETA on that silo?
[12:51] <mzanetti> pstolowski: because we already have it in a silo
[12:51] <Wellark> Saviq: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-network/+bug/1382033/comments/5
[12:54] <mzanetti> Wellark: he's not around today. can I help?
[12:54] <pstolowski> mzanetti, today? i'm also ok to pull it from my silo if you're going to land yours today?
[12:54] <Wellark> mzanetti: no action needed. just followed up on that bug
[12:54] <Wellark> but thanks :)
[12:55] <mzanetti> pstolowski: hmm... Unless something goes wrong I guess we could land it soon, yes
[12:55] <mzanetti> pstolowski: I'm also ok with pulling it out of our silo... we just need to coordinate
[12:58] <pstolowski> mzanetti, np. i'm pulling it from mine, thanks
[12:59] <pstolowski> mzanetti, you are not landing the corresponding branch of unity-shell-plugin, do you?
[13:00] <mzanetti> pstolowski: hmm, no. the branch didn't list any related branches. is that required to land together?
[13:02] <pstolowski> mzanetti, it's not. that's fine, i'll keep it in our silo then
[13:02] <mzanetti> ok
[13:02] <pstolowski> mzanetti, the fix_testDash MP can go in our silo?
[13:03] <mzanetti> that was the question I had for tsdgeos
[13:03] <mzanetti> still finding out
[13:03] <pstolowski> mzanetti, feel free to move it to yours.. i guess that's needed to fix test failure
[13:03] <mzanetti> I think so, yes
[13:03] <mzanetti> will know in a bit
[13:08] <pstolowski> mzanetti, what is your silo #?
[13:08] <mzanetti> pstolowski: 3
[13:08] <pstolowski> thx
[13:29] <dandrader> greyback, it should be good to go now: https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/qtmir/supportedOrientations/+merge/242213
[13:29] <greyback> dandrader: ack
[13:35] <greyback> dandrader: would you please merge qtmir trunk? It merges cleanly now, but just to reduce likelihood of later conflicts.
[13:37] <dandrader> greyback, done
[13:37] <greyback> ta
[13:48] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: pstolowski: i guess sure it can go in there, why not
[13:54] <greyback> anyone having sbuild failing with python dependency errors?
[13:59] <tsdgeos> there's a branch
[13:59] <tsdgeos> with some gi stuff
[13:59] <tsdgeos> greyback: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/unity8/fix-ap-deps/+merge/244036
[13:59] <tsdgeos> not sure if that help
[13:59] <tsdgeos> s
[13:59] <greyback> tsdgeos: sadly not, was trying to build unity-api
[13:59] <tsdgeos> ah _D
[14:06] <Saviq> tsdgeos, tx
[14:06] <Saviq> mzanetti, prolly because pstolowski|lunch put it there
[14:07] <mzanetti> Saviq: yeah, problem solved by now
[14:07] <Saviq> mzanetti, ok
[14:08] <mzanetti> Saviq: so we have that testDash fix in there silo now too
[14:08] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: Saviq: whats the thing with the hamburger menu font?
[14:09] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: whats with it?
[14:09] <Saviq> mzanetti, yup, thanks
[14:09] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: should we land this as is and fix the font in another branch? or do you have a fix for it in the queue?
[14:10] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: does the font need fixing?
[14:10] <tsdgeos> ah
[14:10] <tsdgeos> you mean the color
[14:10] <tsdgeos> sorry
[14:10] <mterry> dandrader, what's the problem with tst_MultiGreeter?  I couldn't gather from your MP comment.  You should be able to drag away a multi-greeter as long as the currently selected user isn't locked
[14:11] <dandrader> ah, ok
[14:11] <dandrader> mterry, didn't know that
[14:15] <greyback> dednick: hey, what's the status of https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/qtmir/1355173.trust-prompt-suspend/+merge/242211
[14:17] <dednick> greyback: waiting mir approval
[14:17] <greyback> dednick: ok
[14:17] <greyback> dandrader: one little comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/qtmir/notests/+merge/244139
[14:19] <dandrader> greyback, ah! so -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX:PATH=/usr is indeed needed!
[14:19] <greyback> yep
[14:19] <dandrader> greyback, I recall you guys saying it wasn't
[14:19] <dandrader> maybe you were talking about qmake
[14:19] <greyback> for qmake it isn't. but cmake it is
[14:20] <greyback> -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr is what I use
[14:20]  * greyback not sure what that ":PATH" is for
[14:52] <dandrader> mterry, fixed tst_MultiGreeter
[14:56] <Saviq> pstolowski|lunch, note there is a unity8 rtm silo under testing right now
[14:56] <Saviq> heh
[14:58] <Saviq> pstolowski, FWIW, we generally prepare a MP similar to https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/rtm-14.09-staging/+merge/243829, reusing the rtm-14.09-staging branch
[14:59] <pstolowski> Saviq, are you going to land Manage Dash then?
[14:59] <Saviq> pstolowski, well, we need to land it together
[15:00] <pstolowski> Saviq, exactly.. that's where I was heading ;)
[15:00] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: which scope has background and hamburger menu so i can see the problem?
[15:00] <Saviq> pstolowski, and I was just showing what we usually do, I can help prepare the unity8/rtm MP
[15:00] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: weather
[15:01] <Saviq> pstolowski, but we need to wait for http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?distro=ubuntu-rtm&q=landing-008 to land first
[15:01] <Saviq> pstolowski, and ideally http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?distro=ubuntu&q=landing-003 too, so that we include the fix_testDash MP
[15:01] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: only when not favorited
[15:02] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: right
[15:03] <Saviq> tsdgeos, we do have skip() in qml tests ya know ;)
[15:03] <tsdgeos> right :D
[15:03] <tsdgeos> let me change it
[15:04] <pstolowski> Saviq, yes pls (about preparing unity8-rtm); we can wait for other silos. I'll prepare rtm MP for unity-api (which doesn't have rtm branch yet)
[15:06] <tsdgeos> Saviq: pstolowski: updated ~aacid/unity8/fix_testDash to use skip() instead of return
[15:07] <Saviq> mzanetti, ↑ you might wanna rebuild silo 3...
[15:07] <mzanetti> Saviq: waiting for the font color fix
[15:07] <Saviq> mzanetti, right, that too
[15:07] <Saviq> coolz
[15:07] <mzanetti> Saviq: what about usc?
[15:08] <mzanetti> just ignore those crashes?
[15:09] <mzanetti> I broke the dash :D
[15:11] <Saviq> mzanetti, they're not related to the silo that's for sure
[15:11] <Saviq> oops errors.ubuntu.com down
[15:12] <mzanetti> Saviq: try this: unfavorite all scopes, do the bottom swipe, click the app icon in the upper right corner
[15:14] <mterry> dandrader, interesting about having to select the "no-password" user -- I agree that should be there, but curious why it never triggered before.  you didn't add new tests to that file or change names...  I would expect order to be the same.  Note that there is the same test in SingleGreeter which could use the same fix, though it doesn't bite you yet
[15:14] <Saviq> tsdgeos, huh, were you even supposed to be able to unfavourite applications?
[15:14] <tsdgeos> Saviq: yes
[15:15] <tsdgeos> it's not special at all anymore
[15:15] <Saviq> mzanetti, I've a blank dash, can't do bottom swipe at all
[15:15] <mterry> dandrader, Maybe before the is-locked logic was handled in the onTease handler, rather than when emitting the signal.  That's why it didn't matter before
[15:15] <mterry> ?
[15:15] <Saviq> sounds like a bug
[15:15] <mzanetti> Saviq: after tapping that icon in the bottom edge list?
[15:15] <dandrader> mterry, I wish we could use a single mock lib for the greeter instead of having multiple qml tests
[15:15] <dandrader> mterry, just to be able to link against a different mock lib
[15:15] <mzanetti> Saviq: I could still bottom swipe on the empty dash, but after tappig that icon it crashed and doesn't recover any more on reboot
[15:15] <pstolowski> ouch
[15:16] <dandrader> mterry, maybe. to be honest I didn't investigate the why
[15:16] <mterry> dandrader, that could be done...  would involve changing number of users on the fly, but that could be possible
[15:17] <dandrader> mterry, because in the shellRotation branch, for intance, I'm testing phone, N7 and N10 in the samle qml tests
[15:17] <dandrader> *same
[15:17] <Saviq> mzanetti, ah, I can bottom swipe once after unfavoriting all
[15:18] <Saviq> pstolowski, looks like it might have to wait before getting into rtm ↑
[15:18]  * mzanetti thinks we should probably require at least one favorite scope
[15:18] <mterry> dandrader, sure, that's size though.  these tests are split due to different user models provided by our fake lightdm.  But even so, they could be unified into some featureful-fake-lightdm
[15:18]  * Saviq not sure if you should be allowed to exit Manage Dash after having unfavorited all, or ↑ that
[15:18] <Saviq> not allow to unfavourite the last one
[15:18] <mzanetti> yeah
[15:19] <dandrader> mterry, because some function helpers and even tests apply to different form factors, I mean, usage scenarios :)
[15:19] <tsdgeos> Saviq: mzanetti: will you open a bug about it?
[15:19] <mzanetti> applause for dandrader :)
[15:19] <Saviq> tsdgeos, doing
[15:19] <mterry> dandrader, agreed!
[15:20] <mzanetti> dandrader: are you resizing the screen in the test?
[15:20] <mzanetti> heh... even reflashing doesn't make it recover. need to wipe or manually fix it
[15:20] <dandrader> mzanetti, I'm not resizing the QQuickWindow in the test, I'm unloading OrientedShell.qml and loading it again with a different size
[15:21] <mzanetti> right... yeah
[15:21] <dandrader> and configuration options
[15:21] <mzanetti> ack
[15:21] <mzanetti> we need to get tst_Shell towards that too
[15:21] <pstolowski> Saviq, yeah.. sound like we need to block unfavoriting in the plugin
[15:21] <mzanetti> atm it heavily relies on the phone stuff
[15:21] <dandrader> mzanetti, there's a drop box there to select make, manta or flo
[15:21] <dandrader> *mako
[15:21] <Saviq> pstolowski, actually not sure that's the level on which this should be done
[15:22] <Saviq> pstolowski, it'd be good enough if we just remained on the Manage page if there are no favorites
[15:22] <Saviq> mzanetti, can't get it to crash though
[15:22] <pstolowski> Saviq, makes sense, but i think backend needs a safeguard too
[15:22] <mzanetti> Saviq: me neither atm... I guess that was usc giving up here
[15:23] <Saviq> pstolowski, well, that depends, if we allow an empty favorites list, then we don't need a safeguard
[15:23] <mterry> dandrader, where's jenkins for that branch?
[15:23] <pstolowski> Saviq, but then you need to bring up Manage Dash on boot?
[15:24] <Saviq> pstolowski, yup, that we'd need
[15:24] <Saviq> pstolowski, it makes sense too
[15:24] <Saviq> pstolowski, what if you remove your only favourite scope
[15:25] <mzanetti> fair enough
[15:26] <pstolowski> Saviq, true
[15:28] <dandrader> mterry, it seems jenkins ir not running at all. it's not the only unity8 branch where jenkins results are absent...
[15:38] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: i have fixed the color of the text, can you please re-review ? https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/fixHamburgerMenu/+merge/243371
[15:39] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: yep, thanks
[15:40] <tsdgeos> greyback: seen the comment on your thread fix branch? i don't see any change
[15:41] <greyback> tsdgeos: really?  Sorry
[15:42] <tsdgeos> greyback: i think at some point you may have wanted to remove the this from the new ()
[15:42] <tsdgeos> but it's still there
[15:43] <greyback> quite right
[16:43] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: can you do https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/bottom_list_store_no_favorites/+merge/244177 and https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/bottom_list_no_favorites/+merge/244169
[16:49] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: looking
[16:50] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: cool :)
[16:53] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: can you try remove all favorites and then reboot the phone?
[16:53] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: I have a feeling the dash is not coming up without one favorite
[16:53] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: define "coming up"
[16:54] <mzanetti> stays at splash screen
[16:54] <tsdgeos> usc is crashing
[16:55] <tsdgeos> i'll try after that
[16:55] <tsdgeos> or maybe just reboot
[16:55] <mzanetti> it's not crashing. it just keeps on displaying the splash screen
[16:55] <mzanetti> when I execute this: it appears a second later:
[16:55] <mzanetti> gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Dash favorite-scopes "['scope://clickscope']"
[16:56] <mzanetti> those two branches seem ok
[16:57] <mzanetti> although I guess we should automatically open the list when you unfavorite the last one and disable closing it until you have a new favorite set
[16:57] <mzanetti> is there any design input what to do in this case?
[16:57] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: loads fine here
[16:58] <mzanetti> hmm... it did now here too
[16:58] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: well there's https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1400762
[16:58] <mzanetti> ack
[16:59] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: no, there's no design input, i just fixed the obvious things
[16:59] <tsdgeos> later if there's better ways to do stuff we can improve them i guess
[16:59] <mzanetti> sure
[19:37] <mterry> What do you folks do for developing on rtm?
[19:37] <mterry> I can't build it anymore in vivid
[19:37] <mterry> Needs old versions of unity-shell-launcher and unity-shell-scopes
[19:37] <mterry> @unity ^
[19:38] <mzanetti> mterry: hmm... tbh I didn't really need that so far. but I guess you could use a vm or an emulator if you can't downgrade those libs any more
[19:39] <mzanetti> actually the x86 emulator might come in handy here
[19:40] <kgunn> good news, i think pat is pushing for a mass resynch of vivid to rtm
[19:40] <mterry> mzanetti, I thought the emulator was for running, not building it.  It does both?
[19:42]  * mterry prepares a utopic VM
[19:43] <mzanetti> mterry: hmm... well if its for building arm stuff, I still do that on the phone mostly
[19:43] <mzanetti> but only compile the one plugin I need and copy it manually to the destination
[19:51] <mterry> mzanetti, oh good point...  I could do that on my rtm device
[19:53] <Saviq> mterry, it will be *slow*
[19:53] <Saviq> mterry, you can just as well do a native (i.e. qemu-emulated) chroot
[19:54] <Saviq> mterry, since you can't cross-build, I would actually recomend getting a chroot in $HOME on the device and build there


[12:57] <mup> PR snapd#11245 closed: vscode: added integrated support for MS VSCODE <Skip spread> <Created by are-scenic> <Merged by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11245>


[01:42] <adam5isalive> Hey, anyone have an idea why libert qemu is showing up as a user i can login as?
[01:42] <adam5isalive> I cant get rid of the damn thing
[03:07] <glsmaxx>
[04:12] <stuckyedges> I would be interested in having larger resize handles as well
[11:22] <Paddy_NI> I just received my Yubikey in the post and was wondering if I can do the initial setup on Ubuntu Mate 17.10.  Documentation seems a little scant.
[14:25] <alkisg> flexiondotorg: hi, I'm thinking of doing a 18.04 daily installation and give feedback, is this something valuable or is it too early in the release cycle to bother with it?
[14:44] <mich1x> hola
[14:44] <mich1x> Is it possible to skip grub on boot?
[14:45] <flexiondotorg> alkisg: Early feedback is always useful. I'm running 18.04 daily and one of the other devs is too.
[15:37] <alkisg> flexiondotorg: thanks, will do
[23:09] <adam5isalive> Hey, anyone have an idea why libert qemu is showing up as a user i can login as?
[23:09] <adam5isalive> I cant get rid of the damn thing


[12:07] <KaiL_> Sime, ping?
[12:07] <Sime> hi
[12:07] <KaiL_> you are the guy to ask about kde-guidance or displayconfig
[12:07] <Sime> yes
[12:07] <KaiL_> that tool is not really working, or? ;)
[12:09] <Sime> works here
[12:09] <Sime> although it has some trouble for other people.
[12:09] <KaiL_> I tried to set up a dual-screen-config here
[12:09] <KaiL_> which, uhm, didn't work at all
[12:10] <Sime> feel free to file a bug report
[12:11] <KaiL_> the problem is, that I can't find the REAL problem, which let's it fail here
[12:11] <KaiL_> the config looks quite ok
[12:12] <Seveas> raphink/riddell: ubugtu now also knows bugs.kde.org (eg kde bug 13211)
[12:12] <Ubugtu> KDE bug 13211 in general "KDE Control Center" [Normal,Closed: fixed]  http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13211
[12:12] <Tm_T> <3
[12:12] <Tm_T> Seveas: wonderful
[12:12] <Seveas> @bugtracker list
[12:12] <Ubugtu> debian, django, freedesktop, gnome, gnome2, kde, madwifi, malone, mozilla, openoffice, trac, ubuntu, and ximian
[12:13] <Seveas> if you want more bugtrackers added, just poke (only bugzilla/issuezilla/malone/debbugs/trac instances)
[12:13] <KaiL_> Sime, should it work on intel i810, or does it interfer with the chips own "intelligence" to detect dual screens and so on?
[12:14] <Sime> KaiL_: Does it offer dual screen on i810?
[12:14] <KaiL_> yes
[12:15] <Sime> KaiL_: does it produce a valid xinerama xorg.conf for i810?
[12:15] <KaiL_> but even with a config, which looks ok for me, I can't get something else than clone mode (which is NOT set by me)
[12:15] <Pygi> Lure: ping
[12:16] <KaiL_> it looks valid to me. except some smaller issues in the "monitor" sections
[12:16] <Lure> Pygi: pong
[12:16] <Pygi> Lure: what kind of name is that? :-/
[12:17] <KaiL_> the most annoying bug is, that it doesn#t start any more, after you are in Xinerama-mode (due to missing XRANDR)
[12:17] <Pygi> version *
[12:17] <Lure> Pygi: which name?
[12:17] <Pygi> for the network-manager-kde
[12:17] <Pygi> version I meant
[12:17] <Pygi> why are we using "~"?
[12:18] <Lure> no released version, therefore rXXXX and ~ in order to be able to override in case of 0.1 actually get released
[12:18] <Pygi> o joy
[12:18] <Sime> KaiL_: the xrandr problem is being worked on. Did you have anothe monitor connected to the second output when you restart Xorg?
[12:18] <Lure> it is standard ubuntu naming - anyway Tonio_ is the packager
[12:18] <KaiL_> Sime, yes
[12:18] <KaiL_> should I try without?
[12:18] <KaiL_> ..and connect later
[12:19] <Sime> no
[12:19] <Sime> what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[12:24] <Lure> Sime: can you check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=880131
[12:26] <KaiL_> logfile looks ok at first, even detects both screens...
[12:26] <Sime> Lure: xdpyinfo reports the DPI from the X server. This is not the same as the DPI that fontconfig uses.
[12:27] <Sime> Lure: fontconfig uses one set in the X resource thingy database. (xrdb?)
[12:29] <Pygi> Lure: please see the forum, but do not comment pls ;)
[12:32] <KaiL_> http://pastebin.ca/47739
[12:32] <KaiL_> uhm, damn..
[12:34] <Lure> Pygi: ;)
[12:35] <Pygi> Lure: ;)
[12:38] <Lure> Sime|Zzz: true, I forgot that we only hack font DPI...
[01:08] <Riddell> qui est francais?
[01:08] <Riddell> raphink?
[01:08] <Riddell> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/26936
[01:08] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 26936 in kdebase kate "unindent keyboard shortcut not working in kate" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[01:59] <freeflying-ibook> Riddell: ping
[02:00] <freeflying-ibook> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11188
[02:02] <freeflying-ibook> Riddell: I've patched kdebase , and build the module for logout theme
[02:04] <Riddell> freeflying: interesting
[02:04] <Riddell> freeflying: where is the patch from?
[03:34] <Pygi> is espresso available in QT version as well*
[03:34] <Pygi> ?
[03:37] <Lure> Pygi: that is what Riddell is doing last weeks ;)
[03:38] <Pygi> well, is it done?
[03:39] <Lure> thing are never done, but something is included...
[03:39] <Riddell> Pygi: it's available, but still has a long TODO list
[03:39] <Riddell> hello faked, who are you?
[03:40] <Pygi> thanks Riddell ;)
[03:41] <faked> hi Riddell, I don't understand your question. Are you searching for a special faked?
[03:41] <Riddell> faked: /msg
[03:44] <faked> Riddell: can't you read my /msg?
[03:44] <Riddell> faked: I can
[03:44] <faked> ok
[03:48] <Lure> debian bug 351069
[03:48] <Ubugtu> Debian bug 351069 in wnpp "Subject: ITP: knetworkmanager -- system tray applet for controlling NetworkManager" [Wishlist,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/351069
[03:49] <Hobbsee> Lure: do i read the wiki page about knm correctly?
[03:51] <Lure> Hobbsee: probably yes - which part
[03:52] <Hobbsee> that it's in universe?
[03:52] <Lure> That is just April 1st gift... ;-)
[03:52] <Lure> try and see - remove and install
[03:52] <Hobbsee> it's showing with apt-cache search as being from universe
[03:53] <Hobbsee> anyway, it's no longer april 1..
[03:53] <Lure> Hobbsee: not for you...
[03:57] <Hobbsee> tru
[03:57] <Hobbsee> e
[03:57] <Hobbsee> night....
[04:38] <freeflying> Riddell: PING
[04:39] <Riddell> freeflying: hi
[04:39] <freeflying> Riddell: the patch is from kde-apps
[04:40] <freeflying> Riddell: the author is from chinese
[04:42] <freeflying> Riddell: need it
[04:43] <Riddell> freeflying: add it to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFutureIdeas
[04:44] <freeflying> Riddell: okey
[04:44] <Riddell> hmm, why have anti aliases fonts stopped working by default
[04:45] <freeflying> Riddell: need work on default kdm fonts , it can not disolay cginese correctly
[04:46] <Riddell> oh?
[04:46] <freeflying> sure
[04:47] <Riddell> is it different from kde proper?
[04:47] <freeflying> the users can diplay correctly , but not kdm's
[05:56] <pradeepto> Riddell: since you said df6 was out? do you want me use this for testing purposes ? I dont see an announcement yet!
[05:58] <Riddell> announcement is stuck in the moderation queue
[05:58] <pradeepto> oke cool
[05:59] <pradeepto> will wait
[07:13] <OdyX> Tm_T: 'got a new issue with your Kopete version ... => No display of "personnal message"
[07:20] <Tm_T> err
[07:21] <Tm_T> you mean "status message" ?
[07:21] <Tm_T> doesn't show status messages of contacts?
[07:21] <Tm_T> or your own?
[07:22] <Tm_T> OdyX: uhm
[07:22] <OdyX> Mine is shown
[07:22] <OdyX> but other's no
[07:22] <Tm_T> hmm
[07:22] <Tm_T> I can see
[07:23] <Tm_T> so don't blame me =)
[07:23] <OdyX> and in fact, I'm sure they have
[07:23] <OdyX> I'm not blaming you.... just reporting bugs (as your version is not in Launchpad)
[07:23] <OdyX> but I could report the regression (GPG...)
[07:26] <Tm_T> hmm
[07:29] <Tm_T> well, I'm not sure is it bug or not
[07:31] <OdyX> well... I don't even know..
[07:31] <OdyX> but it could be occasion to discuss it...
[07:32] <Tm_T> if you can verify it then file a bug to bugs.kde.org
[07:33] <Tm_T> but make sure it really happens, not just "I think there's bug" ;)
[07:36] <OdyX> it what way ?
[07:36] <Tm_T> well, testing
[07:36] <OdyX> I mean... which issue ? not showing "status messages" or "removal of cryptografic plugin" ?
[07:36] <Tm_T> and asking if some other user has same
[07:36] <Tm_T> first
[07:37] <OdyX> OK... Indeed, I'm sure that was on 0.11 => regression..
[07:43] <Tm_T> OdyX: and best place to talk about Kopete related, #kopete ;)
[07:43] <OdyX> Tm_T: thought about it, goin'... Thankd
[07:49] <OdyX> Tm_T: OK. I'm a bad tester => Modules => Cryptography
[07:50] <OdyX> Tm_T: Sorry
[07:52] <Tm_T> =)
[07:52] <Tm_T> it works or what?
[07:55] <OdyX> In fact... not tried yet.. But the module is present..
[07:56] <Tm_T> ok
[08:19] <ubuntu> Hey all. Im writing this from kubuntu flight 6 live cd and I still cant test espresso. Do I have to wait for the beta ?
[08:19] <Pygi> ubuntu: QT port of Espresso is on the way..
[08:20] <ubuntu> ok where can I watch the progress ?
[08:21] <Pygi> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuEspresso
[08:26] <ubuntu> thanks Pygi
[08:28] <Riddell> ubuntu: why can't you test it?
[08:48] <ubuntu> err i cant find it on the live cd
[08:48] <ubuntu> do i have to download a daily build M
[08:48] <ubuntu> ?
[10:07] <Flosoft> hey
[10:08] <Flosoft> I found a problem in Dapper
[10:08] <Flosoft> I have 2 soundcards .. and it always changes the primary one after a reboot
[11:03] <OdyX> !bug
[11:04] <OdyX> Flosoft: Report the bug => https://www.launchpad.net ...


[22:04] <pril> hi anyone can transcribe what she sings? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boAyxhWDXFg&t=236s
[22:04] <f0und> Title: Wearing My Majin Buu Shirt to a CRAZY YOUTUBER PARTY - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
[22:04] <pril> so i can find the song? ^^


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[13:31] <bigon> RAOF: hey
[13:31] <bigon> I pushed some changes in the git repository of colord in debian
[13:31] <bigon> do you think you could prepare a release for this?
[13:33] <bigon> (I'm also wondering why the gir- and -dev packages are not m-a:same


[15:42] <soee> mamarley: NVIDIA 375.26 Driver Rolls Out With Several Fixes
[15:42] <soee> NVIDIA Updates Its Legacy Drivers For X.Org Server 1.19 Support
[15:45] <mamarley> soee: Thanks!  Looks like I have some Work to do. :)
[15:46] <mamarley> This should finally fix the blasted performance/lockup bugs on new hardware on 375.xx.
[15:46] <mamarley> I will package it after work.
[15:47] <soee> :)
[16:00] <Sarvatt> mamarley: where do you get the nocompat32 versions if they aren't on the ftp?
[16:01] <mamarley> Sarvatt: By manually adjusting the URL.  The files are (usually) on the HTTP site as well.
[16:02] <Sarvatt> gotcha
[16:02] <Sarvatt> thanks
[17:44] <tjaalton> what part of nvidia drivers depends on newer vulkan?
[20:26] <mamarley> ricotz: Just to make sure you saw the above, I am already handling all these driver updates. :)
[20:36] <ricotz> mamarley, I saw, wait for Sarvatt's tarballs
[20:37] <mamarley> Sarvatt: Are you doing 375 or just 340 and 304?
[20:39] <ricotz> mamarley, just 304 and 340
[20:39] <mamarley> OK, so I can proceed with 375?
[20:39] <ricotz> yes
[20:39] <mamarley> Thanks!
[20:43] <ricotz> mamarley, thank you
[20:48] <mamarley> Sarvatt: I don't know how far along you are, but for 340 and 304, the DRIVER_LEGACY part of the 4.9 patch is still necessary but the other two hunks can be dropped.
[20:49] <mamarley> The DRIVER_LEGACY thing is tricky because it will compile without that, but it won't load.
[20:57] <ricotz> mamarley, hmm :\, did you already confirm it?
[20:58] <mamarley> ricotz: Yes, I tested it both ways on my 8600m GT.
[20:58] <ricotz> ok, too bad
[21:00] <mamarley> ricotz: Sadly, I had already done 90% of the work by the time you told me to wait :/


[05:22] <bduk> Morning everyone
[06:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[07:04] <Kilos> morning ThatGraemeGuy  inetpro  charl  bushtech_  and others
[07:04] <Kilos> nlsthzn  toooo
[07:13] <Kilos> hi r4tpoison
[07:15] <inetpro> goeie more
[07:17] <r4tpoison> Mornin Kilos
[07:17] <r4tpoison> HI inetpro
[07:17] <r4tpoison> oh
[07:21] <Kilos> lol
[07:38] <Kilos> wbb
[08:04] <nlsthzn> o/
[08:53] <magespawn> howdy all
[08:53] <magespawn> inetpro, ping
[08:53] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[08:53] <magespawn> how are things Kilos/
[08:53] <magespawn> ?
[08:53] <Kilos> good ty and you magespawn  ?
[08:54] <magespawn> getting better got the group adsl back up, not running at full speed but people can work at least
[08:54] <Kilos> good
[08:54] <magespawn> Maaz seen inetpro
[08:55] <Maaz> magespawn: inetpro was last seen 1 hour, 39 minutes and 24 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-09-05 00:15:33 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2014-09-03 09:07:54 PDT
[08:55] <Kilos> half speed is better than standing still
[08:55] <magespawn> indeed
[08:55] <Kilos> have you an idea why its not full speed
[08:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> our new office is going to have 100Mbit fibre \o/
[08:56] <Kilos> lekker
[08:56] <magespawn> awesome ThatGraemeGuy
[08:57] <magespawn> Kilos Telkom made some changes at the exchange that changed out line from 10 down to 4
[08:57] <Kilos> ouch , fight with them
[08:58] <magespawn> all the time Kilos, all the time
[08:58] <Kilos> haha
[08:58] <magespawn> there is another ping program, i cannot remember what it is called, any ideas?
[08:59] <magespawn> inetpro told me about it
[08:59] <magespawn> linux cli stuff
[08:59] <Kilos> mtr
[08:59] <magespawn> thats it ty Kilos
[08:59] <Kilos> np
[09:00] <Kilos> i have the full command to run somewhere lemme see
[09:01] <Kilos> magespawn  mtr -i2 -s0 -n <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:04] <magespawn> ty Kilos, all those commands should be available on the man page
[09:05] <magespawn> right got to run
[09:05] <magespawn> chat later
[09:07]  * Kilos hates man pages
[09:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: sounds like you'd be better off being a windows user, you seem to hate so much about the *nix way of doing things :-p
[09:17] <Kilos> hmm...
[09:18] <Kilos> you a late comer so missed all the experience with man pages
[09:18] <Kilos> man used to be the pros first response to just about everything
[09:18] <Kilos> now he accepts i dont understand them
[09:23] <Kilos> windows is for peeps without linux friends
[09:30] <Kilos> hi shellcomplex
[09:30] <Kilos> hows zeref
[09:35] <shellcomplex> hi Kilos
[11:01] <charl> good afternoon all
[11:02] <charl> hi Kilos, shellcomplex, ThatGraemeGuy
[11:02] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[11:02]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[11:06] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[11:21] <Kilos> hi charl
[11:21] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee please
[11:21] <Maaz> Kilos: There isn't a pot on
[11:21] <Kilos> oi
[17:20] <Kilos> hi captine  bushtech  and others
[17:20] <Kilos> yo Vince-0
[17:48] <Kilos> hi smile
[17:49] <smile> hi :D
[17:49] <smile> 11/20 for statistics :)
[17:49] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:49] <Kilos> 18 would have been better
[17:49] <Kilos> but well done lad
[17:54] <smile> :D
[18:29] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee on
[18:29]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[18:33] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:34] <Kilos> Maaz  danke
[18:34] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[18:35] <smile> bye! :)
[19:42] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight


[03:33] <InHisName> who's up on linux based routers ?   When I change my ISP, I suspect I need to change some items.
[03:40] <InHisName> Here is current ip route:  <IP_ADDRESS>/21 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:40] <InHisName> default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0                   This is apparently my internet access.  I'll need to change it for the new IP.   The clear modem cable is showing in linux as <IP_ADDRESS> /24   Yes it's a router too with NAT.  Is natting twice an issue ?
[04:19]  * InHisName gives up and heads off to hit the hay
[04:27] <jthan> InHisName: can't help you with that one. Wait for the smart people
[04:27] <InHisName> I waited 40+ minutes, you're the first smart one.
[04:28] <jthan> Lol.
[04:28] <jthan> It's kind of late?
[04:28] <InHisName> I need to get 5+ hours sleep so goodnight.
[04:28] <jthan> Night.
[04:29] <InHisName> I'll see if any ans show by sunrise
[09:16] <rmg51> Morning
[10:01] <JonathanD> Morning.
[10:27] <waltman> Morning.
[10:32] <InHisName> Goody Morning
[10:33] <InHisName> who's up on linux based routers ?   When I change my ISP, I suspect I need to change some items.
[10:33] <InHisName> Here is current ip route:  <IP_ADDRESS>/21 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src <IP_ADDRESS> default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0                   This is apparently my internet access.  I'll need to change it for the new IP.   The clear modem cable is showing in linux as <IP_ADDRESS> /24   Yes it's a router too with NAT.  Is natting twice
[10:34] <InHisName> is natting twice ok ?
[13:39] <TheLordOfTime> i'd say ask ##networking, but...
[13:39] <TheLordOfTime> :P


[00:03] <phil> it seems that "kde-window-manager" is removed..
[00:03] <phil> how to get it back ?
[00:19] <poedragonwarrior> hey
[00:20] <poedragonwarrior> so yeah I just compiled KDE 5 alpha, and here is a screenshot of the default theme and layout http://i.imgur.com/4exYu.jpg
[01:03] <mparillo> poedragonwarrior: Looks good, thanks for sharing. I assume it is not in a PPA yet?
[01:12] <Platypus-Man> hello, I am trying to find a torrent for Kubuntu 10.04 LTS, but am unable to locate it on the homepage or by googling, any of you know where it is located?
[01:28] <Platypus-Man> nevermind, used the waybackmachine on archive.org to give me an archived page of the Download page that had 10.04. now I just have to hope someone is still seeding it... it is an LTS release, so in theory should not be a problem
[02:42] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[03:31] <splin> hi
[04:44] <Santiclause> Anybody know how I can open the kickoff application launcher from the command line?
[04:44] <Santiclause> i.e, as if I had clicked it?
[05:00] <Gorroth> hi there
[05:01] <Gorroth> in KDE, on my netbook, i changed the workspace from "netbook" to "desktop", and then i changed it back a couple mins later, realizing i like the "netbook" variant.  now, when i alt-tab, it doesn't do that whole slide-show thing... is there a way to get it back?  just makes it easier on this computer
[05:38] <akis> hi all. i chated here some months with a kind person form Canada who helped me to setup my onboard modem. i cannot remember his nickname but i know is here because i saw him again and again. if anyone knows him please provide me his nick to let me find him easiest to help me to setup it again because i reinstalled my system.
[06:32] <C62> TITANIC
[06:34] <akis> hi all. anyone can help me to make efax-gtk to open my modem port (ttySL0)? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216218/
[06:40] <lordievader> akis: I think the person you mean is BluesKaj.
[06:44] <akis> no he is not. his nick has 2 words with a - between them. he konws very well everything about modems because as far as i understood he is working in something related. any way i thing i solved the issue. i run the efax from terminal using sudo and the port opens. is there any other option to force efax running under root permissions so it can access my modem's port?
[06:47] <Smurphy> akis: check which device (serial - /dev/ttyS0 ?) the efax uses, and add the user (you ?) to the group the device has write access to.
[06:49] <Smurphy> Means - group fax or serial: chgrp serial /dev/ttyS0; adduser <you> serial
[06:49] <Smurphy> and you should be done.
[06:49] <akis> ok. its clear. where can i find it to put my name: 'user'?
[06:52] <akis> i went to my profile and i gave access to everything. let;s see now.
[06:52] <Smurphy> everything is the windows way. Not good.
[06:53] <akis> need a new log to run it?
[06:53] <Smurphy> no - why ?
[06:54] <Smurphy> adduser akis serial : would add user akis to the group serial
[06:54] <akis> although i gave root priviliges to my user doesn't work
[06:54] <Smurphy> The command before assigned the device /dev/ttyS0 to group serial.
[06:55] <Smurphy> Eventually you will still need to do a: chmow 660 /dev/ttyS0 to give the group write access to the device.
[06:55] <Smurphy> root privileges is just the group.
[06:55] <akis> what is the command i have to give in terminal?
[06:56] <Smurphy> I don't know what efax uses.
[06:56] <akis> efax-gtk
[06:56] <Smurphy> make a: ps auwx | grep efax
[06:56] <Smurphy> when it runs.
[06:57] <Smurphy> and then tell me which fax/serial device efax uses. it must be in the configuration.
[06:58] <akis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216250/
[06:58] <Smurphy> you logged in as user: user ???
[06:58] <Smurphy> lol :)
[06:59] <Smurphy> so - you are the one using the program.
[06:59] <Smurphy> Now - find out - what device efac-gtk uses.
[06:59] <akis> yep. my nickname is 'user' is that bad?-:)
[06:59] <Smurphy> no. funny if at all :)
[07:00] <akis> that's right. thanks. so how can i check the device?
[07:00] <Smurphy> Try making a: dmesg | grep ttyS
[07:00] <Smurphy> it should give you the devices (serial devices) existing on your system.
[07:00] <akis> actually it gave me nothing
[07:01] <Smurphy> make a dmesg | grep tty
[07:01] <Smurphy> then
[07:01] <Smurphy> I need to know which serial Device you are using.
[07:02] <akis> any other command to verify it?
[07:02] <Smurphy> not that I knew of.
[07:03] <akis> it doesn't give me anything.
[07:03] <Smurphy> Is there something in the efax-gtk configuration talking about device ?
[07:04] <akis> no. but as far as i konw is an intel. lets check modemdata.txt
[07:05] <akis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1216256/
[07:07] <akis> smurphy: i will be back at 2 mins. i have to log out and come back.
[07:10] <akis> i log out and i am back just to check that the priviliges i gave to myself are working. efax runs normally and opens modem ports without any sudo command. so don't bother more. thank you for all your advices.
[07:12] <Smurphy> ok. Then it is fine.
[07:12] <Smurphy> FYI - what might have happened. The Group pertenance only changes after you log in again.
[07:12] <akis> now i have to check if can get faxes!
[07:12] <Smurphy> So that may have been your problem.
[07:12] <Smurphy> :}
[07:12] <Smurphy> Lol Yeah - you have to.
[07:12] <Smurphy> I don't have a fax machine. I use E-Mail + PDF - better quality :)
[07:13] <akis> email is the best, but as my this old notebook has an internal modem i wanted just to turn it working. just to be proud that i make it work!!!
[07:14] <akis> under linux. because its initial software was win XP.
[07:15] <ovell> helo
[07:15] <ovell> i  am  chinses
[07:15] <ovell>   i   need  frends
[07:15] <ovell> who  can  make  frends  with  me
[08:10] <spexi> Hi! I just happen to have fresh installation of Kubuntu and on other machine fresh installation of Windows 7. I would like to create shares on both machines, and so that both machines can see each other properly.
[08:10] <spexi> So, question 1) should I follow some tutorials I found and use GUI based ways to create shares, or would the command line ways be more effective? question 2) How much harder is (or is it?) creating the shares when there are not the same usernames on both machines? I assume that you don't have to have same users on both machines.
[08:12] <hateball> spexi: from kubuntu -> windows it's quite easy. you can set default username and such to be used for smb connections in the system settings
[08:13] <hateball> and then just browse to smb://your.win.machine/$share in dolphin. bookmark as needed
[08:14] <hateball> as for sharing over samba -> windows, I dunno if there's a nice GUI way these days...
[08:14] <hateball> !samba
[08:15] <spexi> thanks for good answer :)
[08:15] <hateball> There seems to be some free(as in beer) ways to mount sshfs in Windows
[08:16] <hateball> as well as using NFS, if one is so inclined
[08:16] <hateball> much easier than using samba IMO
[08:18] <spexi> hmm have to look at it
[08:22] <tsimpson> there's always samba if you're really stuck
[08:22] <tsimpson> not samba... apache!
[08:32] <hateball> spexi: obviously the easiest solution would be to set up a third machine, dedicated to running ownCloud ;D
[08:38] <spexi> hateball: hehe, okay :D
[08:38] <spexi> my flat full of computers
[08:38] <Smurphy> I'll be installing owncloud on my QNap Nas ... Should be fairly simple IMHO.
[08:59] <sora> who can tell me this problem ----
[08:59] <sora> Being queried irc.spotchat.org
[08:59] <sora> * Is connected to irc.spotchat.org (<IP_ADDRESS>) port 6667 ...
[08:59] <sora> * Connection failed. Error: Connection timed out
[08:59] <sora>  Jump to the next Linux Mint Server server ...
[08:59] <FloodBotK1> sora: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:59] <sora> * Disconnect ().
[10:25] <ncfi1013> hello?
[10:30] <Peace-> ncfi1013: hi
[10:31] <ncfi1013> i have a problem with the videodownloadhelper plugin for firefox...
[10:31] <ncfi1013> it doesnt convert properly
[10:32] <ncfi1013> i already have mencoder/ffmpeg installed
[10:32] <ncfi1013> still doesnt work
[10:32] <Peace-> ncfi1013: well it's ffmpeg issue
[10:32] <Peace-> ncfi1013: wait you need to install some extra package
[10:33] <ncfi1013> are they conflicting?
[10:33] <Peace-> ncfi1013: nope
[10:34] <Peace-> ncfi1013: it's just that because some codecs has some stupid lincenses and ubuntu can't shipt them ... so easly
[10:34] <ncfi1013> so what do i do...just uninstall ffmpeg?
[10:34] <Peace-> ncfi1013: they must be installed by users
[10:34] <Peace-> ncfi1013: nope
[10:34] <Peace-> ncfi1013: wait a moment
[10:35] <Peace-> ncfi1013: names can changes but only in the numbers  ..... sudo apt-get install libavfilter-extra-2 libavcodec-extra-53 libavformat-extra-53 libavutil-extra-51 libavdevice-extra-53 libswscale-extra-2
[10:36] <Peace-> ncfi1013: so sudo apt-get install libavfilter-extra nad press TAB
[10:40] <Peace-> !ffmpeg
[10:49] <ncfi1013> !ffmpeg
[10:49] <ncfi1013> nevermind that
[10:57] <ncfi1013> peace...im a little concerned...ive uninstalled packages before and replaced them with better ones...and then my computer became inoperable...and crashed...
[11:00] <hateball> Doesnt sound like they're better if they broke your computer
[11:00] <ncfi1013> no the problem was uninstalling old software
[11:01] <ncfi1013> not installing new stuff
 what does pressing tab do?
[11:04] <ncfi1013> after doing this: sudo apt-get install libavfilter-extra
[11:05] <hateball> !tab
[11:08] <ncfi1013> thanks...i appreciate all your help...
[11:15] <spexi> I have frozen Konsole and Dolphin window, can't kill them either in command line or with system monitor. Is the only way to reboot?
[11:15] <spexi> It asks "are you sure you want to kill this process" but it still keeps being there
[11:16] <hateball> spexi: I guess you could try reloading plasma, that might help
[11:18] <avihay> spexi: they are probably ignoring the default signal (kill, I think), there's another signal you can send them (terminate, I think)
[11:20] <avihay> you can do it from system monitor, by right-clicking the program and using the send signal sub-menu, or when you send a kill and it fails, it usually adds a force kill )shift-del) menu entry
[11:21] <spexi> well, nothing happens
[11:21] <spexi> and I can't restart plasma via command line
[11:21] <avihay> or by suppling a signal parameter to kill (look it up in man) or in top, it askes you what signal number to send. you'd want to send 7 or 9, I think
[11:21] <spexi> because new konsole windows won't start anyway
[11:21] <avihay> you can use a text terminal
[11:23] <avihay> use ctrl+alt+Fx to swithc to a terminal from a graphical terminal, log in, do your thing (I recommand top), and use alt+Fx to switch to a terminal from a textual terminal
[11:23] <avihay> the default graphical terminal is number 7 by default
[11:23] <avihay> so alt+f7 to return to that
[11:24] <spexi> well, I have only 'konsole' for a terminal program, and I can't switch from that to any other, because I can't start one anymore. because konsole is frozen. and pressingt ctrl+alt+f7 or alt+f7 does nothing :(
[11:25] <tsimpson> press Ctrl-Alt-F1 first, then Alt-F7 to get back
[11:25] <avihay> press ctrl+alt+f1, log in, run top or use kill and alt+f7 to come back to the graphical environment
[11:25] <spexi> aa, nice
[11:26] <spexi> but no, still the frozen konsole there
[11:26] <avihay> you know the konsole PID?
[11:27] <spexi> yeah, and tried kill -9 8072
[11:27] <hateball> maybe it has a zombie
[11:27] <avihay> I think you need to use kill --sig=SIGTERM or somth like that
[11:27] <avihay> try top
[11:27] <tsimpson> try with xkill
[11:28] <tsimpson> it should be bound to Ctrl-Alt-Esc, but if not just run "DISPLAY=:0 xkill" somewhere, then you click on the window
[11:28] <avihay> in top type k enter 9072 enter 9    or replace the last 9 with 7
[11:28] <avihay> err 8072             ^
[11:30] <spexi> oh :D accidentally clicked desktop topp with ctrl-alt-esc
[11:30] <spexi> so plasma turned off too
[11:31] <spexi> and yes, I could close the windows with that, but processes still are there
[11:31] <spexi> how to start plasma again? :D
[11:31] <spexi> or bring it back again
[11:31] <hateball> plasma-desktop &
[11:32] <spexi> just error messages.. i'm gonna think that's just easier to reboot this
[11:32] <avihay> if you can alt-f2 to get krunner, then ^
[11:33] <spexi> well now the desktop is there
[11:33] <spexi> but yeah, still the konsole and dolphin processes are there, can't get rid of them
[11:33] <avihay> did you try killing them with top?
[11:34] <avihay> or in ksysgurd/systerm monitor by sending them signals?
[11:35] <hateball> "ps aux |grep Z" should show if you have any zombies to get rid of
[11:36] <spexi> well now the desktop isn't answering to any clicks
[11:36] <spexi> And all this started, because I downloaded smb4k and tried to run it
[11:36] <avihay> :->
[11:39] <spexi> well, that was random.
[11:39] <hateball> ;d
[11:39] <hateball> I remember pulling in smb4k and swiftly removing it. After cursing a bit.
[11:41] <spexi> I can access windows share from kubuntu and mount it to /media, but I tried then to access kubuntu share from win7. it asks credentials and I try those with which I logon to kubuntu
[11:41] <spexi> says they're wrong
[11:41] <spexi> so I tried if the graphical samba gui could help :D
[11:44] <hateball> well you need to set up all sorts of things for samba :|
[11:44] <hateball> easier to set up nfs, pretty much one line of config, then use nfs client for windows
[11:46] <spexi> hmm okay
[11:46] <spexi> I had ubuntu earlier, I was able to map a network drive. so back then I have done something right :D but now it seems so hard
[11:46] <spexi> maybe I give a look for nfs
[11:48] <hateball> if you just need to transfer stuff I'd use ssh
[11:48] <tsimpson> samba has a different authentication system, see man 8 smbpasswd
[11:49] <tsimpson> (samba/smb/cifs is horrifically complex)
[11:49] <hateball> a quick google suggest there is this for Windows http://code.google.com/p/win-sshfs/
[11:50] <hateball> (I have not tried it)
[11:51] <hateball> or use apache and webdav ;d
[11:54] <spexi> well I don't even now need so much sharing from linux to windows, I'm just trying different stuff. Maybe some day would be nice to have a server, where is all of the audio and video, and every other computer may connect to that. Then it should be handy if sharing works fine and with mapping networkd drives
[11:54] <spexi> easier that way, than for example just ssh
[11:55] <tsimpson> for just audio/video, you can just install a media server (UPnP) and it'll tend to just work
[11:55] <tsimpson> I have mediatomb installed on my desktop, and use it to stream all my media to various devices over LAN
[11:56] <tsimpson> even works from windows with windows media player
[11:56] <spexi> okay, that sound good
[11:56] <spexi> sounds*
[11:56] <hateball> ownCloud is sweet for that
[11:56] <hateball> you should really check that out, if you plan on setting up a server
[11:57] <spexi> yeah, have to remember that
[12:43] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:22] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> i have a questio
[13:23] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> probably it is no directly related to kubuntu or kde
[13:23] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> after upgrading to new version 12.04
[13:23] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> my laptop suffering from backlight problem
[13:24] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> right after the boot, i need to increase the backlight manually by pressing fn+up
[13:24] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> do we have a solution for this problem?
[13:25] <BluesKaj> noMoreMrNiceGuy, open system settings>additonal drivers , if any available enable the recommended one
[13:26] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> there is no additional drivers in system settings
[13:28] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> BluesKaj: there is no such a thing there? where is it?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> noMoreMrNiceGuy, then you don't have any additional drivers available , unfortunately , if it's an intel gpu then most likely not
[13:30] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> well yes it is intel
[13:30] <designbybeck> noMoreMrNiceGuy:  and BluesKaj might there be something in the BIOS that can be set manually there that might keep it bright?
[13:30] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> i think kernel3.xxx has this
[13:31] <BluesKaj> designbybeck, i don't know
[13:31] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> i never checked the bios... actually good idea... i can check
[13:31] <noMoreMrNiceGuy> but you know just previous version of kernel, i mean 2.xxx was running properly.
[14:03] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[14:33] <Motrak> what could be wrong on tilp if it doesn't show any folders and terminal says this : (tilp:2761): ticables-WARNING **: usb_bulk_write (error submitting URB: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden).
[14:33] <Motrak> (tilp:2761): ticables-WARNING **: usb_clear_halt (could not clear/halt ep 2: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden).
[15:06] <madison> Hello there, again :)
[15:07] <madison> kubuntu doesn't like my USB speakers for a few days now
[15:07] <madison> Everything worked fine, then after an update, there was no sound
[15:08] <madison> kubuntu detects my speakers and I can select them, but I don't hear anything....but for the headphones it works
[15:08] <BluesKaj> madison, install pavucontrol  , then you can setup your inputs and output options on it
[15:12] <Santiclause> Hey, how can I simulate an opening of the kickoff menu? I'm trying to open it from within a script.
[15:14] <madison> Well....PulseAudio shows that there is sound, but I don't hear anything...
[15:17] <madison> No sound....
[15:20] <madison> hmm....testing it with windows
[15:20] <madison> cya :D
[16:05] <usuario4> holaa
[16:19] <cest_michel> Hi!
[16:51] <valentin> lol hi
[16:51] <valentin> mozeufockeu
[19:35] <Santiclause> Still wondering how to open the kickoff launcher from inside a script or somethin'! =D
[20:00] <lordievader> Santiclause: A work around could be to use xdotool to manipulate the mouse.
[20:00] <Santiclause> what I'm trying to do is capture Meta key presses in a script to try to emulate windows behaviour
[20:00] <Santiclause> i.e if you press just the meta key without using it as a modifier for another key, open the launcher
[20:05] <lordievader> Santiclause: I have wondered about that myself, never found the solution.
[20:06] <Santiclause> I'm able to capture the key presses just fine
[20:06] <Santiclause> I'm using udevadm to find the keyboard devices and then reading directly from them
[20:07] <Santiclause> I just don't know how to actually toggle the kickoff launcher
[20:07] <lordievader> Santiclause: And you can link a script to it?
[20:07] <Santiclause> to what, udevadm?
[20:07] <lordievader> Santiclause: Yes, to the meta (super) key.
[20:07] <Santiclause> oh yeah
[20:08] <Santiclause> the key code for it is 125 for left meta and 126 for right meta
[20:08] <lordievader> Santiclause: Oh, hey that is quite nice. Then you can have the menu display for the meta+m key combo, and have a script press the "m" for you, while you press meta.
[20:08] <Santiclause> well...
[20:08] <Santiclause> I want it to emulate windows behaviour
[20:09] <Santiclause> which is, it only displays it if you press meta and then release meta
[20:09] <Santiclause> without pressing anything else
[20:10] <lordievader> Santiclause: Let me get this straight, what you want is to press the meta key and to get the menu to show up, right?
[20:10] <Santiclause> yeah
[20:10] <Santiclause> once I release the meta key
[20:10] <Santiclause> specific sequence of events: press meta, release meta, menu pops up
[20:10] <Santiclause> if I were to, say, press meta, press e, release meta
[20:11] <Santiclause> then menu should not pop up, because I pressed something in between pressing and releasing meta
[20:11] <lordievader> Santiclause: What are the udev rules you use for that?
[20:11] <Santiclause> th...
[20:11] <Santiclause> I don't know anything about udev x_x
[20:11] <Santiclause> I'm literally reading directly from the devices
[20:11] <Santiclause> with linux/input.h
[20:11] <lordievader> Santiclause: Ah I though you used the udev...
[20:11] <Santiclause> I just used udevadm because it was the only tool I could find to actually find the keyboard devices
[20:11] <Santiclause> I didn't know how to iterate through the devices in /dev/input/ and only choose the keyboards
[20:14] <lordievader> Santiclause: This might be interesting: http://askubuntu.com/questions/177489/how-to-set-keyboard-shortcut-to-meta-in-kubuntu
[20:14] <Santiclause> Is that the one that disables the ability to use meta as a modifier?
[20:15] <Santiclause> ah yeah, it is
[20:16] <paco_> hola
[20:16] <lordievader> Hey paco_, how are you?
[20:28] <lakosta> ок
[20:29] <lordievader> Santiclause: Yes unfortunately it does...
[20:29] <Santiclause> yeh
[20:29] <Santiclause> well
[20:29] <Santiclause> my solution would work if I could just figure out how to toggle the kickoff launcher :|
[20:31] <lordievader> Santiclause: Wait maybe I know, you can run scripts right? Is that under your own user?
[20:32] <Santiclause> I actually have to use root to read the input device
[20:33] <lordievader> Santiclause: Ok, well as long as you can run commands as your own user, you could set the menu toggle to some unused F# key, and then have the script run "xdotool key F#".
[20:33] <Santiclause> Ah
[20:33] <lordievader> Santiclause: Note, xdotool is not standardly installed
[20:33] <Santiclause> would "xdotool key F#" simulate a keypress?
[20:34] <lordievader> Santiclause: For example "xdotool key F12" would simulate a keypress of F12.
[20:34] <lordievader> Santiclause: So, yes.
[22:10] <rottingdead> Hmm, wasn't it apt-get -s some_package?  It's saying E: Invalid operation mplayer..  Just trying to do a search for mplayer package.
[22:11] <rottingdead> I looked in manpage, and it says -s for search, but it gave that error.
[22:11] <tsimpson> no, -s is for simulate
[22:11] <tsimpson> what manpage are you looking at?
[22:11] <rottingdead> tsimpson: man apt-get
[22:11] <tsimpson> "-s, --simulate, --just-print, --dry-run, --recon, --no-act"
[22:12] <rottingdead> tsimpson: apt-get as you know is Kubuntu's command line package manager..
[22:12] <tsimpson> I know what it is, and you don't search for packages with it
[22:12] <tsimpson> you should use "apt-cache search <something>"
[22:12] <rottingdead> tsimpson: Oooooh, what's the command?  Ooooh, thanks.
[22:13] <rottingdead> tsimpson: Eeeeerm, anyway to slim down this list, as in grep ?
[22:13] <spexi> I have always why apt-get just cant include search
[22:13] <spexi> install, update, upgrade, but not search
[22:13] <rottingdead> tsimpson: Guess I can run apt-cache search |  grep "mplayer" But might not work.
[22:13] <tsimpson> spexi: the clue is in the name apt-GET, not apt-PLEASE-SEARCH-FOR-ME ;)
[22:14] <darren> Hello everyone.
[22:14] <spexi> yeah that i see :D
[22:14] <rottingdead> I didn't read entire manpage, just skipped to apt-get's options..
[22:14] <tsimpson> rottingdead: you can pass the -n option to search only package names
[22:15] <rottingdead> tsimpson: Thanks, I'm assumig I can put n next to s as in -sn, no?
[22:15] <tsimpson> "apt-cache -n search mplayer" narrows it down to 19 for me
[22:15] <tsimpson> sure, but you don't need or want -s
[22:16] <rottingdead> tsimpson: Lol, sorry, still have -s on the mind,=P.
[22:16] <rottingdead> tsimpson: Yeah, I got a few.
[22:17] <rottingdead> Anwyho, brb, updates have finished, and it wants a reboot.
[22:51] <gediel> hi!
[23:24] <rjgonzale> please excuse me, I am not sure this is the right place to ask this....I installed 12.10 today to test it, updated it using muon....and not the list of possible sessions in lightdm is empty
[23:25] <rjgonzale> anything I can do to test it without installing 12.04?
[23:35] <avihay> maybe that's more of a question for #ubuntu+1 rjgonzale


[03:48] <lostson> and here we are again
[04:01] <lostson> got a new battery for the laptop today gave it the initial 4 hour charge lets see how long it lasts
[04:02] <lostson> my wife has the same laptop and it lasts 4 hours but she runs win7 lets see if i can get that
[04:02] <spikeb> probably not, windows has better power management heh
[04:02] <lostson> i would like at least 3
[04:03] <lostson> but its already down to 80%
[04:03] <spikeb> are you running ubuntu on it?
[04:03] <spikeb> 11.04 has a bad power management regression
[04:04] <lostson> yeah and that is what i am using xubuntu 11.04 i havent read if they got if fixed yet or not
[04:06] <lostson> oh well i will run it til its dead then give it the charge again
[04:52] <lostson> well i got over an hour so far
[13:38] <lostson> good morning


[20:41] <mlei> hi folks, i'm trying to troubleshoot a cloud-config on lucid; everything is happening correctly except that the packages listed in packages: aren't being installed.
[20:43] <mlei> is there a log file i can check to see why it's not happening? /var/log/apt/history.log shows the apt_upgrade happening but not the install of the packages.


[04:49] <ajrye> hi there
[04:51] <ajrye> is there a homeschool program using edubuntu, the biggest issue atm moment for my grandson is bulling and my wife and i are looking in to homeschooling him
[04:52] <ajrye> would this distro be adequate for say grade 9 to 12 if I install the Tertiary Bundle
[04:53] <ajrye> maybe ill come back later thank you


[01:23] <Airbander> Hi guys
[01:23] <Airbander> how make restoration point ?
[04:55] <xubuntu83o> hello
[07:08] <vyze> Hello. When I press RMB  (to show context menu) and release on some element - it activates. Is it possible to make element activation just for the next click?
[10:26] <xubuntu72w> hello
[10:27] <slickymasterWork> !hi | xubuntu72w
[10:28] <xubuntu72w> i'm reading guidelines
[10:28] <ObrienDave> Greetings & Welcome
[10:28] <slickymasterWork> hey ObrienDave o/
[10:28] <ObrienDave> hiya slickymasterWork
[10:32] <xubuntu72w> is there an italian channel?
[10:32] <deshipu> !it
[10:32] <slickymasterWork> !it | xubuntu72w
[10:33] <xubuntu72w> thanks :D
[10:33] <slickymasterWork> deshipu, you're fast ;)
[10:33] <deshipu> the fastest sheep this side of Ural
[10:34] <slickymasterWork> lol
[10:35] <ObrienDave> tmi ;P
[11:16] <raff0z> hi to all
[11:18] <Walliski> Hi
[11:18] <raff0z> how is hybrid gpu (Intel + ATI) support in xubuntu 14.10 on laptop? (now i'm using arch linux with xfce and ONLY when i need ATI Gpu i use DRI_PRIME=1 in front of the command to launch)
[11:32] <mpmc> Anyone experienced weird audio glitching lately?
[11:35] <brainwash> raff0z: works fine here, intel + amd/ati
[11:36] <brainwash> !details | mpmc
[11:39] <mpmc> brainwash, sorry, Whenever I play audio I get this weird double step in the audio (by that I mean a short piece of music plays then overlaps itself), I have not long ago found a fix (disable pulseaudio's realtime scheduling).
[11:42] <brainwash> mpmc: did you try to find a bug report which describes your problem?
[11:43] <mpmc> I did, but I couldn't find anything, I assumed it was something to do with using chromium + pepper flash.
[18:39] <adari> How do I fix the Qt apps in xubuntu 14.10? They look awful
[18:39] <adari> is there some fix?
[18:42] <holstein> adari: i would apply whatever qt theme you want.. though, try and be more specific.. screenshots, for example.. "i have A. and want B."..
[18:42] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/22316/how-can-i-theme-my-qt-app-to-resemble-one-written-in-gtk is what it will be similar to
[18:43] <adari> holstein: basically the gtk windows theme looks like windows 98 or something
[18:44] <holstein> adari: sure.. use the link above "http://askubuntu.com/questions/22316/how-can-i-theme-my-qt-app-to-resemble-one-written-in-gtk" to try and apply a theme for the qt applications that looks like you prefer
[18:44] <holstein> adari: specifically, the first response
[18:45] <adari> holstein: good, thank you
[19:56] <xubuntu379> Hi all
[19:58] <Hedgework> Hello.
[19:58] <xubuntu379> Hi Hedgework
[19:58] <Hedgework> What can we help you with?
[19:58] <xubuntu379> I have a question
[19:59] <xubuntu379> Is it hard to move your home directory to a a seperate partition after a new install?
[20:01] <Hedgework> No, it is not.
[20:02] <xubuntu379> There are no files in either home folder
[20:02] <Hedgework> It's just a matter of formatting the new partition, putting relevant files/directories in it, re-mounting, and changing /etc/fstab to reflect the change.
[20:03] <Hedgework> (and, of course, rebooting to make sure all is in working order BEFORE you delete files/directories from the original location)
[20:03] <xubuntu379> okay
[20:04] <Hedgework> There are more-efficient ways to do it, but that's the newbie-safe way (i.e. if you need to avoid the reboot you can)
[20:04] <koegs> there is even a wiki-page about it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[20:04] <Hedgework> koegs++
[20:04] <xubuntu379> ty Hedgework and koegs
[20:05] <xubuntu379> fstab is new to me...maybe I will check out the wiki for that...
[20:08] <Hedgework> xubuntu379: "fstab" is short for "filesystem table", it's basically just a list of how you want Linux to treat certain storage on the system.
[20:10] <xubuntu379> thanks again...I will login  later and tell you how I did... :-)
[20:10] <Hedgework> np :)
[20:11] <marcus_> Hello, can somebody tell me how I can config compiz, that workspace switcher looks "normal"? Not like this:
[20:11] <marcus_> http://oi58.tinypic.com/wt87ef.jpg
[20:12] <holstein> marcus_: i suggest using something that is more "friendly" to the desktop environment you are using.. compiz in ubuntu is quite tailored for unity
[20:14] <marcus_> holstein: I used to use in xubuntu 13.10 and it worked flawless. Now in 14.10 its full of bugs.
[20:14] <marcus_> holstein: what would you suggest to use?
[20:14] <holstein> marcus_: well.. to be fair, its not a "bug" that its not working the way you need it to
[20:14] <holstein> marcus_: i would try the xfce compositor.. there are a few other compositors. what is your goal/need ? transparency?
[20:17] <marcus_> holstein: I like the workspace switcher and to drag+drop windows via keybindings or to move windows at the edge of the screen
[20:17] <marcus_> holstein: Stuff that the xfce compositor cannot provide
[20:18] <holstein> marcus_: sure.. but other window management features may
[20:19] <marcus_> holstein: plus in 13.10 it worked perfect but now in 14.10 it wont work anymore with the same machine?
[20:19] <holstein> marcus_: correct.. and you can expect it to get "worse" in the future
[20:20] <marcus_> holstein: I am looking forward to it
[20:21] <marcus_> holstein: in this case ubuntu aint no more fun anymore
[20:21] <holstein> !bug
[20:23] <holstein> marcus_: if you feel you have a bug, you can file ^ ..i would try upstream support with compiz as well http://lists.compiz.org/
[20:23] <holstein> but, in ubuntu, its designed to work with unity.. unity is basically a compiz plugin, iirc.. so, thats what the ubuntu package is intended to do
[20:27] <marcus_> holstein: I dunno if its a bug or it just needs some configuration.
[20:28] <marcus_> I'd rather hesitate on filing a bug that isnt.
[20:28] <holstein> marcus_: i personally dont think its either.. but, starting the bug report, and getting someone to confirm is a good first step
[20:50] <marcus_> holstein: so I sent a bugreport at launchpad. Maybe someone has an idea
[21:30] <kulus919> hi all
[21:32] <kulus919> i am having trouble with moving my home directory to a separate partition
[21:32] <kulus919> i have looked at the wiki
[21:33] <kulus919> i am having trouble with step 3 in setup fstab
[21:34] <kulus919> I keep getting error messages.
[21:35] <elfy> kulus919: ok - try this instead pkexec mousepad /etc/fstab
[21:35] <elfy> gksu isn't seeded much anymore and xubuntu doesn't use gedit :)
[21:36] <kulus919> ty elfy, I will try that.
[21:38] <kulus919> pkexec may have caused an error message
[21:39] <kulus919> mousepad:7328
[21:39] <elfy> kulus919: what version of xubuntu?
[21:40] <kulus919> but it opened even with error message
[21:40] <kulus919> 14.04
[21:40] <elfy> pkexec mousepad should work then :)
[21:41] <kulus919> ok, will continue then.  :)
[21:41] <elfy> oh - in a terminal you see a bunch of things like "(mousepad:4995): GtkSourceView-CRITICAL **: gtk_source_style_scheme_get_id: assertion 'GTK_IS_SOURCE_STYLE_SCHEME (scheme)' failed"
[21:41] <elfy> ignore those
[21:41] <kulus919> okay
[21:43] <kulus919> are # comment only or commands?
[21:44] <elfy> # will be comments
[21:45] <kulus919> will ext4 work for home partition?
[21:45] <elfy> yep
[21:46] <kulus919> no errors this time!
[21:46] <kulus919> ty elfy..
[21:48] <elfy> kulus919: welcome
[21:48] <kulus919> #4 has an error now... says file exists
[21:50] <kulus919> also no newline @ end of /etc/fstab
[21:51] <kulus919> can I ignore these?
[21:52] <elfy> if file exists - make sure you've got nothing mounted in it before you go further
[21:53] <elfy> mount | pastebinit
[21:53] <elfy> I'll check that
[21:53] <elfy> add a new line in fstab if it's complaining
[21:53] <elfy> my fstab is so old now I don't remember :)
[21:54] <Pici> 70
[21:54] <Pici> not that old
[21:54] <elfy> :)
[21:55] <kulus919> pastebinit says 8841829
[21:55] <elfy> mmm
[21:56] <elfy> you've managed to get 2 partitions mounted there
[21:57] <kulus919> problem?
[21:58] <kulus919> (mousepad will not open now). hmmm..
[21:59] <elfy> well I wouldn't go any further till you've dealt with that - you don't want to start trying to copy your home to /media/home at the moment
[21:59] <kulus919> mp error 7881 and 7898
[22:00] <kulus919> I still have my original fstab saved
[22:00] <elfy> yep
[22:00] <kulus919> should I cp it back?
[22:01] <elfy> kulus919: have you done anything else except mkdir and save and edit fstab?
[22:01] <elfy> and at somepoint you must have mounted things to /media/home
[22:02] <kulus919> mnt & unmnt drive
[22:02] <kulus919> sudo mount -a
[22:02] <elfy> right
[22:03] <elfy> so something was mounted in /media/home and you then mounted something else
[22:03] <kulus919> brb
[22:05] <elfy> kulus919: someone will be able to assist you - but I've got to go
[22:05] <kulus919> b
[22:06] <kulus919> hi all
[22:07] <kulus919> I've been helped by elfy but got stuck
[22:09] <kulus919> I am trying to move my home folder to a separate drive
[22:09] <kulus919> [14:03:07] <elfy> so something was mounted in /media/home and you then mounted something else
[22:10] <kulus919> was the last comment.
[22:11] <kulus919> is there some way of changing this?
[22:12] <kulus919> I am also thinking about restoring my original fstab again.
[22:12] <kulus919> is this a good idea?
[22:13] <ObrienDave> you can try asking in #ubuntu. more people there to help you
[22:14] <kulus919> I will try that.  thanks ObrienDave


[12:58] <slytherin> ttx: ping
[13:00] <ttx> slytherin: pong
[13:00] <slytherin> ttx: pm?
[13:00] <ttx> sure
[13:04] <nthykier> ttx, slytherin: hey, regarding libservlet2.4-java - looks like eclipse from 3.5.2 on will be able to work without it
[13:05] <nthykier> I have not confirmed it yet; but considering that we got rid of the jetty5 dependency I think it is plausible
[13:05] <slytherin> nthykier: Great.
[13:07] <slytherin> ttx: Do you have a list of packages where dropping -gcj form recommends to suggests is the only change?
[13:07] <ttx> hmm
[13:08] <ttx> Maybe it's not the only change, but here is a list:
[13:08] <ttx> libbcprov-java, liblog4j1.2-java, libantlr-java, antlr3, libjaxp1.3-java, libxerces2-java, libxalan2-java
[13:09] <ttx> All those implemented Suggest for specific arch + an arch-all
[13:09] <ttx> I mean arch=any
[13:09] <ttx> so that deps are recalculated differently for each arch
[13:11] <ttx> those are the gcj-enabled libs on the server CD, basically. Modified so that they don't pull all GCJ on the server CD as a Recommend, basically.
[13:12] <slytherin> ttx: Fine. Since it is agreed in Debian java team that we should move -gcj packages to suggests, I want to merge such changes in Debian.
[13:13] <ttx> slytherin: you should clean those up, then... have then arch=all and remove the arch-dependent recommends/suggests
[13:14] <slytherin> yes
[13:59] <AnAnt> persia:
[13:59] <AnAnt> persia: ping
[13:59] <persia> Yes?
[13:59] <AnAnt>    persia  Bother.  Both querants have parted :(                                                                                22:17
[13:59]  * persia doesn't generally like contentless pings
[14:00] <AnAnt> about yesterdays' question
[14:00] <AnAnt> regarding LP 530204, is it alright if I give upgrade log on karmic (not lucid) ?
[14:00] <persia> No.
[14:00] <persia> Well, kinda.
[14:00] <persia> You want to make sure it installs cleanly on lucid.
[14:01] <persia> You also want to make sure it upgrades cleanly from both karmic and hardy.
[14:01] <persia> The upgrades are less critical to test than the current release for FFe, but just as critical for release.
[14:02] <AnAnt> well, I can only test the clean install
[14:02] <AnAnt> on lucid that is
[14:02] <AnAnt> is that sufficient ?
[14:03] <persia> Why?
[14:03] <AnAnt> actually I can test the karmic to lucid upgrade too
[14:03] <persia> You can also test lucid -> lucid upgrade.
[14:03] <persia> Just install on a lucid chroot, and then upgrade.
[14:03] <AnAnt> ok
[14:03] <AnAnt> thanks
[14:41] <AnAnt> done
[14:43] <persia> AnAnt: Excellent.
[15:01] <AnAnt> thanks
[21:55] <nikolaj_basher_> I'm a newbe in the java world. But is it easy to make a configuration program too an server configuration


[01:28] <LaserJock> hi Burgundavia
[01:30] <Burgundavia> hey las
[02:07] <Burgundavia> ugh
[02:07] <Burgundavia> nixternal: you alive?
[02:16] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: pingy pingy
[02:16] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: 44 in the queue
[02:16] <Burgundavia> anything else you need talk to me about?
[02:17] <LaserJock> I approved it but it won't show up for me
[02:17] <LaserJock> does it show up for you?
[02:17] <Burgundavia> I don't see it
[02:18] <Burgundavia> did you remember to change to published AND on the front page?
[02:18] <LaserJock> oh, right
[02:18] <LaserJock> just a sec
[02:18] <LaserJock> there we go
[02:19] <Burgundavia> thanks
[02:19] <LaserJock> no problemo
[02:19] <Burgundavia> rocking
[02:19] <Burgundavia> I am about to jet
[02:19] <LaserJock> I was just thinking we needed a weekend item
[02:19] <LaserJock> ;-)
[02:19] <Burgundavia> weekend item?
[02:20] <Burgundavia> anyway, need to run
[02:20] <Burgundavia> email fridge-devel?
[02:35] <LaserJock> a piece of news on Fridge this weekend
[03:28] <Burgundavia> ahh
[04:12] <nixternal> yo yo
[04:19] <LaserJock> hi nixternal
[04:20] <nixternal> hola
[04:21] <LaserJock> what up?
[04:22] <LaserJock> Sopranos on yet?
[04:22] <nixternal> just got done watching the last sopranos, which was disappointing, now I am working on a website for a company
[04:22] <nixternal> its a shame...they are using .NET
[04:22] <LaserJock> what happened with the Sopranos? did everybody get whacked? :-)
[04:22] <nixternal> nope
[04:23] <nixternal> which I was expecting and they kept you expecting it the entire show
[04:24] <LaserJock> interesting
[04:25] <LaserJock> I'm watchin' NBA Finals
[07:51] <LaserJock> nixternal: around?
[07:52] <nixternal> no, he ran away to Greenland
[07:52] <nixternal> argh...power killed my print server
[07:56] <nixternal> oh LaserJock
[09:26] <LaserJock> hi Burgundavia
[09:36] <Burgundavia> hey LaserJock
[09:50] <LaserJock> anybody do the "Ubuntu in the News" thing yet?
[10:02] <beuno> LaserJock: #ubuntu-news  but I think it's stuck at some point


[17:11] <bippt> I have a bit of a silly but simple request... could someone check the yaru cursor theme? Mine is a black pointer and a white hand but I've been playing around with my themes and just want to make sure I didn't mess up the pointer
[17:11] <bippt> -- yaru is the default cursor