[08:55] <JesusAteMyFaith> inemo, people have been known to give out their passwords for a small reward, like a candy bar or something stupid, thus the OS can be virus/trojan resistant by design but still be vulnerable to flawed user/admins who are, by design, flawed as human beings.
[08:55] <lsuactiafner> heh
[08:55] <Seveas> apokryphos, dunno :)
[08:55] <gm78> Blissex, alright, will do. i just had my mom email me her group file too, so ill compare with it also
[08:55] <chris_ub> i'm using breezy at the moment, and have problems with keyboard in X
[08:55] <lsuactiafner> JesusAteMyFaith : if you dont mind change your nick its offensive to me
[08:55] <nalioth> JesusAteMyFaith: yes, good ol' social engineering
[08:55] <Poromies> has anyone using 64bit system managed to install Skype to 32bit chroot? is it possible?
[08:56] <nalioth> chris_ub: breezy ate your X
[08:56] <inemo> JesusAteMyFaith: i'll take a fudge cake for my password ;)
[08:56] <nalioth> chris_ub: x is broken in breezy atm
[08:56] <JesusAteMyFaith> lsuactiafner, that's a candy bar in disguise
[08:56] <chris_ub> i can't use umlauts and characters like the AT in email-adresses
[08:56] <luke> you mean 2 firexox browsers (32bit and 64bit) ?
[08:56] <Blue_Summer> Anyone know where i can get gaim_vv?
[08:56] <chris_ub> i thougt it got fixed
[08:56] <droz> exit
[08:56] <chris_ub> especially the XKB problem?
[08:56] <jeroen_> nalioth, virii is not the plural of virus
[08:57] <Blue_Summer> viri is the plural of virus
[08:57] <nalioth> jeroen_: educate me, please
[08:57] <goldfish> penii is the plural of penis
[08:57] <lsuactiafner> i run a 32bit firefox, didnt know firefox has been ported?
[08:57] <jeroen_> Blue_Summer, nalioth no it's not, the Romans never use plural for virus (slime)
[08:57] <gm78> Blissex, autopackage removed hal from a bunch of groups, thats what the problem is. that thing has been a nightmare, my computer hasnt been the same since i installed it. it is gone now, but my computer is still a mess
[08:57] <apokryphos> Seveas: no worries; what about the syntax for getting him to remember something?
[08:57] <chris_ub> another problem
[08:57] <Ralc> YES I CAN PLAY MP3! sounds like crap tho :)
[08:57] <jeroen_> Blue_Summer, so it could only be genitive
[08:57] <chris_ub> i can't start my default gnome-session anymore
[08:57] <Blue_Summer> jeroen_, are we the romans no?
[08:57] <Poromies> im using 64bit ubuntu hoary, and i am quite frequently using 32bit programs that are set up on my 32bit chroot subsystem.. im trying to install skype to chroot now, has anyone had any experiences?
[08:58] <HappyFool> jeroen_: what, didn't they have ghost-busters?
[08:58] <Seveas> ub0tu foobar is a http://foobar
[08:58] <chris_ub> all i get is a xterminal without a window-manager
[08:58] <Seveas> replace 0 with an o and he remembers foobar as http://foobar
[08:58] <apokryphos> Seveas: thanks
[08:58] <jeroen_> Blue_Summer, use 'our' way then, viruses
[08:58] <Nameless1> HappyFool, just thought id let you know that its running faster in vlc so u can help anyone else that has the same problem :P
[08:58] <goldfish> he> :)
[08:58] <HappyFool> Nameless1: thank you. i'll remember
[08:58] <chris_ub> right after a dialogbox is displayed saying "your" and showing a OK-button
[08:58] <HappyFool> Nameless1: do you have totem-xine ?
[08:58] <lsuactiafner> heh, rm -r .gnome aint a good idea or is it ppl?
[08:59] <gm78> Blissex, anyways, thanks for your help
[08:59] <gm78> ttyk
[08:59] <gm78> *ttyl
[08:59] <lsuactiafner> for chris_ub..
[08:59] <Blue_Summer> Anyone know where to get gaim_vv or how to use a webcam with an msn account?
[08:59] <chris_ub> i already did that
[08:59] <chris_ub> and it didn't fix anything
[08:59] <Seveas> Blue_Summer, have you googled for it yet..?
[08:59] <MrJangles> how do you pronounce ubuntu?
[08:59] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: chris_ub is using breezy. is there a productive idea at all?
[08:59] <Nameless1> HappyFool, yeah i think i do ill install it later, i guess that SHOULD fix my problem too. Right now im off to watch some vids i downloaded.
[08:59] <Nameless1> OO BUN TOO ?
[09:00] <HappyFool> Nameless1: have fun
[09:00] <Seveas> MrJangles, ooh-boon-too, with oo as in book
[09:00] <lsuactiafner> heh
[09:00] <Kyral> Note to self, aptR kynaptic and openoffice-bin
[09:00] <lsuactiafner> nalioth : even i dont run it
[09:00] <MrJangles> interesting :)
[09:00] <ksmurf> how do I make dynamic links ... is it ln/your file name?
[09:00] <jeroen_> ksmurf, man ln
[09:00] <kbrooks> no
[09:00] <ksmurf> tks
[09:00] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: i may install it when i get a spare machine next week
[09:00] <Seveas> ksmurf, ln -s /path/to/file
[09:01] <nalioth> keyword SPARE machine
[09:01] <lsuactiafner> ln -s what_is what_isnt
[09:01] <Ralc> why does xmms sound like crap?
[09:01] <nalioth> Ralc: speakers are crap?
[09:01] <lsuactiafner> becuase it got no vowles in the name..
[09:01] <lsuactiafner> difficult to pronouce..
[09:01] <HappyFool> mpgs are at 8kb/s ? ;)
[09:01] <lsuactiafner> Ralc : change the audio out to alsa
[09:02] <Ralc> nalioth, i know how my laptop speakers sound (theyre crap) but this is worse
[09:02] <apokryphos> Ralc: see if you have the same problem in other players
[09:02] <Proteque> what do I have to use to get sleep to work when I close my laptop?
[09:02] <nalioth> Proteque: patience
[09:02] <Ralc> lsuactiafner, xmms freezes if i do that
[09:02] <goldfish> pray to god
[09:02] <nalioth> Proteque: in laptops, sleep is the big thing (both x86 and PPC)
[09:02] <JesusAteMyFaith> goldfish, that froze my system
[09:03] <Proteque> nalioth: nope. work great on my ibook (not ubuntu though hehe)
[09:03] <Proteque> nalioth: so there is no way to make it sleep and wake as the status is now?
[09:03] <nalioth> Proteque: correct NOT ubuntu (ydl worked great on my iBook, too, but <shudder> i just can't handle RPMs)
[09:04] <nalioth> Proteque: not at this time, to my knowledge
[09:04] <Proteque> nalioth: okay. (this is x86)
[09:04] <Proteque> status is the same there?
[09:04] <nalioth> Proteque: you might check the wiki, for x86
[09:04] <Ralc> apokryphos, i cant play mp3 files in other players. rythmbox refuses to play them
[09:04] <Mestapheles> hoary supports reiser 3 not 4 correct?
[09:04] <chris24tn> hmmmm...is there any way i can check, to make sure that my output is going to the right sound card?
[09:04] <HappyFool> Ralc: have you been to the restrictedformats page on the wiki?
[09:04] <HappyFool> !restricted
[09:04] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:04] <apokryphos> Ralc: you may need gstreamer-0.8mad, I believe it is, for that. Otherwise get amarok
[09:05] <nalioth> Ralc: have you installled gstreamer0.8-mad?
[09:05] <Discipulus> http://www.sptimes.com/2005/07/04/State/Wi_Fi_cloaks_a_new_br.shtml
[09:05] <Ralc> HappyFool, yes
[09:05] <Ralc> apokryphos, okay ill to to find it
[09:05] <Ralc> nalioth, nope :)
[09:06] <six2one> later all
[09:06] <dockane> just took a look to ubuntuguide.org for configuring a dhcp server ... what about the domain-name-servers ? i would like to add those from my isp. any idea ?
[09:06] <kbrooks> dockane, dont use the ubuntu guide
[09:06] <inemo> !wiki
[09:06] <Ralc> nalioth, apokryphos, i cant find it
[09:07] <inemo> !wiki dhcp
[09:07] <dockane> kbrooks, whats wrong with it ?
[09:07] <nalioth> dockane: please don't mention the ubuntuguide in here...
[09:07] <kbrooks> dockane, use: system > adminstration > networking
[09:07] <JesusAteMyFaith> why do people on the ubuntu forums suggest the unofficial ubuntu guide yet people in here say not to use it?
[09:07] <nalioth> dockane: read #3 here, please
[09:07] <bloodlust> whats up all
[09:07] <apokryphos> Ralc: it's gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:07] <kbrooks> #3?
[09:07] <bloodlust> im dyin here
[09:07] <HappyFool> Ralc: gstreamer0.8-mad is in the 'universe' repository -- have you enabled network repositories ?
[09:07] <kbrooks> where?
[09:07] <kbrooks> doh
[09:07] <nalioth> JesusAteMyFaith: you can read the same URL
[09:07] <bloodlust> whats the easiest way to copy a dvd (movie) with ubuntu?
[09:08] <nalioth> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[09:08] <JesusAteMyFaith> nalioth, thanks
[09:08] <Ralc> apokryphos, its not on the list
[09:08] <Ralc> HappyFool, no idea
[09:08] <bloodlust> i have only the dvd+-RW drive no actual dvd playing drive to copy directly from
[09:08] <HappyFool> !repositories
[09:08] <ubotu> repositories is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:09] <nalioth> bloodlust: make an image
[09:09] <HappyFool> Ralc: go to that wiki page, and add the network repositories
[09:09] <bloodlust> nalioth ---- thats all i've been trying to do this hole time is copy dvds
[09:09] <Ralc> HappyFool, okay
[09:09] <apokryphos> Ralc: you need the Uni repository. Check the links provided above.
[09:09] <nalioth> bloodlust: use k3b
[09:09] <bwlang_> anybody know what a .wx file is?
[09:09] <kbrooks> * Ubuntuguide.org presents wrong solutions, ranging from suboptimal solutions to pure regressions. # Regressions such as making you add a repoistory to be used constantly
[09:09] <bloodlust> nalioth -- whats k3b
[09:09] <Gerrath> I tried to register a gpg key with Ubuntu Launchpad and I got the following message:Key 1024D/69236B7B was claimed, sending email to :.At least one UID should be validated to get the key imported as yours.
[09:09] <HappyFool> Ralc: then you can install the mp3 codecs (i.e., gstreamer0.8-mad)
[09:10] <nalioth> !info k3b
[09:10] <kbrooks> @ JesusAteMyFaith
[09:10] <ubotu> k3b: (K3b, a sophisticated KDE cd burning application), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.11.23-0ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 2209 kB, Installed size: 4716 kB
[09:10] <Gerrath> what does that mean?
[09:10] <bloodlust> !info k3b
[09:10] <JesusAteMyFaith> kbrooks, thanks
[09:10] <HappyFool> Gerrath: it's probably sent a mail to you ?
[09:10] <Gerrath> HappyFool, I thought that too but I have not recieved one yet.
[09:11] <nalioth> Gerrath: have you had your key signed?
[09:11] <HappyFool> Gerrath: *shrug*, sorry, not sure
[09:11] <Gerrath> no.
[09:11] <dockane> nalioth, kbrooks : i got the point. so i will bookmark the wiki instead of the guide and come back later with any questions
[09:11] <Gerrath> HappyFool, no.
[09:12] <kbrooks> JesusAteMyFaith, also, for: "Ubuntuguide.org is not really a guide, but a mere list of command you might enter. It gives no explanations at all" look at making sound work properly in gnome and tell us what it does!
[09:12] <Gerrath> HappyFool, do I sign it before I register it?
[09:12] <Gerrath> HappyFool, I'm pretty new to gpg.
[09:12] <nalioth> Gerrath: www.biglumber.com   make it so
[09:12] <HappyFool> Gerrath: me too! ask nalioth ;)
[09:12] <nalioth> Gerrath: someone ELSE signs YOUR key
[09:12] <AnguS> hi there... i got trouble installing the MANTIS package on hoary... it doesn't work! somehow it cant connect to mysql, but i supplied correct user/pass etc! anyone else experienced such problems?
[09:12] <dizzie> Newest available PHP version for Ubuntu is 4.3.3, how can i install 5,x ? =)
[09:13] <apokryphos> dizzie: you'll have to compile
[09:13] <Gerrath> nalioth, how do you get someone else to sign it?
[09:13] <dizzie> Figured that, v5 is old and stable, just not if you use apt-get :)
[09:13] <nalioth> Gerrath: www.biglumber.com   <<<bookmark it
[09:14] <nalioth> Gerrath: go to that site, find your nearest city (use only the city name, no state/province/country code)
[09:14] <nalioth> Gerrath: email any of the users you find, in a friendly manner and they'll be happy to explain further
[09:15] <devios> thanks for the help today, all. lata
[09:15] <Gerrath> nalioth, Thanks, I'm assuming it will be one of them that will sign it?
[09:15] <nalioth> Gerrath: basically you show them your govt issued id, some other things, and they show you theirs, adn y'all go home and sign each others keys
[09:15] <nalioth> Gerrath: your key can be signed millions of times
[09:15] <nalioth> Gerrath: if you could find millions of gpg users
[09:16] <Gerrath> nalioth, can I just have a friend sign it that also uses gpg?
[09:16] <nalioth> Gerrath: surely, as long as y'all follow the standards
[09:17] <nalioth> Gerrath: won't hurt a bit to contact someone from biglumber
[09:17] <zooko> Greetings, people of #ubuntu!  Can anyone help me install mplayer on breezy?
[09:17] <zooko>
[09:17] <zooko> I think maybe I'll just go get the mplayer source ...
[09:17] <dockane> nalioth, you gave me the advice to use system -> system -> administration. i may switch to dhcp cnfiguration there but where do i activate a dhcp server ?
[09:17] <luke> see the topic
[09:17] <nalioth> zooko: sounds good
[09:18] <nalioth> dockane: i have no clue. i think you've missent to me
[09:18] <dockane> nalioth, i am sorry. it was kbrooks
[09:18] <punkrockmcduck> ahoy
[09:19] <kbrooks> dockane, uh
[09:19] <Adreno> Anyone here know anything about Dosbox?
[09:19] <nalioth> customers are calling
[09:19] <nalioth> ttyl
[09:19] <kbrooks> i said system -> adminstration -> network
[09:19] <dockane> kbrooks, i found everything i need in the wiki. no reaseon to get nervous ;)
[09:20] <kbrooks> dockane, not nervous. it's just a habit
[09:20] <punkrockmcduck> i need some with my junky old sound card
[09:20] <punkrockmcduck> i need some help, that is.
[09:20] <lsuactiafner> Adreno : use dosbox to play old dos based games
[09:20] <lsuactiafner> Adreno : like dune2 not dune2000
[09:20] <lsuactiafner> dune2 is fun
[09:21] <punkrockmcduck> ahh dune. that was always a good time.
[09:21] <Adreno> i know what its for, and i got it installed, but i cant seem to find out how to mount the directory
[09:22] <Ralc> HappyFool, okay i figured it out now.. and i have installed that "mad" thing. the sound still sucks :D
[09:22] <HappyFool> Ralc: tried any .wav files?
[09:22] <lsuactiafner> Ralc : change to audio out
[09:23] <Ralc> HappyFool, have none :)
[09:24] <HappyFool> Ralc: music cd?
[09:24] <Ralc> lsuactiafner, to what? esd is the only one that works
[09:24] <HappyFool> Ralc: do the ubuntu sounds (like startup sound) sound ok?
[09:25] <lsuactiafner> alsa should be nice
[09:25] <lsuactiafner> and make sure your speakers are plugged in properly
[09:25] <Kyral> emm, nivermind, KDE != me
[09:25] <Ralc> HappyFool, yes its okay
[09:25] <KarlosII> hmm msn is down
[09:26] <lsuactiafner> cool
[09:26] <no_gatez_fan> anyone know of good reading material to help me get shorewall started and configured?
[09:26] <Big_O> hi
[09:26] <HappyFool> Ralc: here's a test wav file   /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav    <-- you say this sounds ok ?
[09:27] <HappyFool> Ralc: i don't know why mp3 playback would be bad, but other playback ok
[09:27] <lsuactiafner> no_gatez_fan : freshmeat.net search shorewall then goto the shorewall page and read their documentation
[09:27] <apokryphos> KarlosII: not here
[09:28] <no_gatez_fan> ok ty
[09:29] <sly> Hi, I have tried three different nics with a new install and still cannot get an adress from my dhcp
[09:29] <Ralc> HappyFool, yeah they sound like theyre okay.. i have to play them in totem though.. and if i play a while at the same this as a mp3 the mp3 really fucks up
[09:29] <kbrooks> lol
[09:30] <dszabo> My screen resolution is set at 640X480, using the Intel 845G Graphics
[09:30] <dszabo> Cant get it out of this resolution
[09:30] <lsuactiafner> ubotu : tell dszabo about resolution
[09:31] <kbrooks> what package do i need for dvd watching? started with lib something
[09:31] <lsuactiafner> libdvdcss to crack dvds..
[09:31] <lsuactiafner> libdvdread
[09:31] <Discipulus> lsuactiafner, not libdvdcss2 ?
[09:31] <lsuactiafner> many of em..
[09:32] <minimidgy> does any know how to compile cube (game)
[09:32] <lsuactiafner> Discipulus : not sure, i usually just ftp to a gentoo mirror and do ls *dvd*
[09:33] <kbrooks> lsuactiafner, are you going  offtopic?
[09:34] <dockane> i am not really totally new to the topic, but isn't a bit too much for somebody wihtout _any knowledge about tcp ip to let him configure /etc/ipmasq.conf ??
[09:34] <Discipulus> lsuactiafner, why gentoo?
[09:34] <lsuactiafner> kbrooks : no, easy way to list any package with dvd in the name
[09:35] <lsuactiafner> and usually its the newest / stable package name
[09:35] <dockane> as this is the provided "help" on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/hardware/InternetConectionSharing
[09:35] <sly> how come lspci gives me the nic but I cant get an address form my dhcp server?
[09:36] <anacron> hmm can someone help me with updating my virtualhost or what ever it is (no-ip.org linux tool)
[09:36] <jozzer> how does the default user setup work? my created user does it have root access? I can't seem to su - root wrong p/w???
[09:36] <Kyral> sudo :D
[09:36] <jozzer> i dont whish to use sudo
[09:37] <^thehatsrule^> do sudo su then
[09:37] <goldfish> or sudo bash
[09:37] <HappyFool> !sudo
[09:37] <ubotu> methinks sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[09:37] <anacron> sudo -s works as well
[09:37] <Big_O> hmm how do i put an audio controller in fluxbox?
[09:37] <HappyFool> jozzer: you can read that link for more, afaik
[09:37] <tiredbones> Can someone tell me how to get my ip address of the adsl modem I use?
[09:38] <goldfish> tiredbones: /sbin/ifconfig
[09:38] <HappyFool> tiredbones: also Applications -> System tools -> Network tools
[09:39] <tiredbones> Would an ip address of <IP_ADDRESS> seem right?
[09:39] <inemo> tiredbones: yup
[09:40] <neyz> hello
[09:40] <epl> tiredbones: host dsta-ai166.pivot.net
[09:40] <epl> tiredbones: perhaps?
[09:41] <Big_O> uhhh...
[09:42] <Big_O> hmm ill try somewhere else then
[09:42] <tiredbones> Ok if that's looks like an ip for the modem, why would I get the placeholder page for the server when I keyin the address on the browser?
[09:42] <kbrooks> can i have a dvd in a cdrom drive?
[09:42] <anacron> what
[09:42] <anacron> :D
[09:43] <Big_O> jesus christ if i could do it i would though
[09:46] <JesusAteMyFaith> Big_O, were you talking to me?
[09:46] <tiredbones> HappyFool, I don't see any selection when I try yuor way. Application ->System ->network
[09:46] <HappyFool> tiredbones: what selection?
[09:47] <HappyFool> tiredbones: you wanted your adsl modem's ip address
[09:47] <tiredbones> HappyFool, A way to look at the ip address on my modem.
[09:47] <Big_O> probably JesusAteMyFaith ive got a very bad short term memoryy
[09:47] <JesusAteMyFaith> Big_O, you said Jesus Christ
[09:47] <HappyFool> tiredbones: change the 'network device' to 'modem' (or something other than 'loopback interface'
[09:50] <pfp> hmm... does anything break if i boot a kernel without initrd? (i have all necessary drivers compiled in, and the rest as modules)
[09:51] <jbailey> pfp: The whole system is setupu with that assumption, so be a bit careful.
[09:51] <mwe> pfp, it didn't here
[09:51] <pfp> ... like udev or what's that thing messing with /dev nowadays
[09:51] <spacey> pfp, works here
[09:51] <jbailey> Like in breezy, there's some chance t hat we may do all the udevstart stuff in the initramfs.
[09:51] <jbailey> (Right now we do it twice)
[09:52] <tiredbones> HappyFool, I selected eth0 and it responded with <IP_ADDRESS>. So, I guess the modem ip is <IP_ADDRESS>.
[09:52] <pfp> mwe, spacey, right, thanks
[09:52] <HappyFool> tiredbones: quite possibly
[09:52] <spacey> pfp, never hurts to try anyway
[09:52] <spacey> just don't do experimenting on a production machine :P
[09:52] <pfp> jbailey: i see... but not in the current release though?
[09:53] <pfp> spacey: it's "just" my home box :)
[09:53] <jbailey> pfp: Right, not in Hoary.
[09:53] <spacey> jbailey, will that shorten the boottime much?
[09:53] <jbailey> spacey: Not alot, it can remove some boottime race conditions, I think.
[09:53] <jbailey> udevstart is only a couple of seconds at worst.
[09:53] <spacey> k
[09:53] <dockane> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/hardware/InternetConectionSharing   <---  thats crap
[09:54] <HappyFool> tiredbones: i think 10.* is a standard address for uhh. 'netmasqing' or whatever it's called.
[09:54] <HappyFool> dockane: it's a wiki. please fix it ;)
[09:54] <tiredbones> How does one go about trying to figure out if a medem is gone? My ISP doesn't support Linux and they want to charge me for a server call.
[09:54] <pfp> jbailey: do you happen to know why my md devices re-number themselves every time one array's status changes? (this is why i'm switching to compiled-in raid)
[09:55] <epl> tiredbones: your modems adress will not be the same as your network cards, try <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:55] <Blissex> tiredbones: run the 'pppd' command in debug mode, it will print what it is doing.
[09:55] <jbailey> pfp: I don't.  It's something I'm trying to piece out with the raid stuff in the initramfs.
[09:56] <Blissex> tiredbones: or even better use 'minicom' or 'seyon' to talk directly to the modem and check if it responds to 'AT' commands
[09:56] <shnazzle> ahoihoi
[09:56] <HappyFool> Blissex: this applies for adsl too? (never used adsl, don't have a clue)
[09:56] <pfp> jbailey: ok, thanks. so it's a known problem anyway?
[09:57] <Blissex> HappyFool: no, ADSL modems are not really ''modems''.
[09:57] <dockane> HappyFool, nope ... that should be a task for the guy who offered this bare information. its totally stupid imho to tell somebody to edit a .rul file.
[09:57] <tiredbones> epl, when I enter <IP_ADDRESS> the responds is "the connection was refused when attempting to connect to <IP_ADDRESS>.
[09:57] <Blissex> HappyFool: in any case most ADSL modems are in effect winmodems, and they are very very dodgy to make to work with Linux.
[09:57] <epl> tiredbones: ok, is it an internal or external "modem" ?
[09:57] <HappyFool> dockane: *shrug* feel free to complain and not help then
[09:58] <HappyFool> Blissex: ok. my point is tiredbones is going on about adsl ;)
[09:58] <tiredbones> Blissex, does it matter if I'm using dsl connection?
[09:58] <jbailey> pfp: I think so, yeah.
[09:59] <tiredbones> HappyFool, I'm reporting what's on the bottom of the modem.
[10:00] <Ralc> whats a good movieplayer?
[10:00] <klaym> gxine
[10:00] <Big_O> xine
[10:00] <anatole> mplayer
[10:00] <anatole> w/o gui
[10:00] <anatole> :p
[10:00] <HappyFool> tiredbones: i really don't know much about adsl, sorry
[10:00] <Ralc> :D
[10:01] <dockane> its somehow strange that ubuntu makes it that hard to share a dial up connection with your lanm
[10:01] <dockane> lan
[10:02] <Kyral> Sharing a Dial Up on LAN?!
[10:02] <Kyral> You are making a slow thing slower
[10:02] <peet> rofl
[10:02] <tiredbones> epl, it an external modem that my isp provides.
[10:03] <Kyral> I would hate to try to download that thing
[10:03] <mjr> hmh, hard? perchance you'd want to check out ipmasq from universe, I think that wasn't very hard
[10:03] <neyz> hey theren is there any netinstall cd for ubuntu ?
[10:03] <Kyral> Seriously, if I become a National Leader, I'm gonna outlaw DialUp
[10:03] <klaym> how can I set my default applications, such as web browser, music player, etc? so that when I click a file it opens up that specific application
[10:03] <pinko> I wonder if I can bake trout with the skin still on, for good results.
[10:04] <Kyral> National sponsored high-speed!
[10:04] <dockane> Kyral, dial up does imho include adsl ?! .. if not i am sorry and correct this : its somehow strange that ubuntu makes it that hard to share your internet connection with your lan
[10:04] <pinko> neyz: there's only one ubuntu cd.  does it really need a net install?
[10:04] <Kyral> Dial Up == 56k
[10:05] <neyz> pinko, dl 20mb and burning on a RW is faster than 550mb ^^
[10:05] <odie5533> Kyral: or 28k ;D
[10:05] <Kyral> ADSL, DSL, Cable, T1, T2, T3 == HighSpeed
[10:05] <pinko> neyz: very true.  oh well, there's always debian.
[10:05] <odie5533> Kyral: What about netzero highspeed! ;)
[10:05] <Kyral> odie5533,  I truly have pity for you if you use that
[10:06] <odie5533> so fast you'll think you were on broadband!
[10:06] <Kyral> 56k is 56k, no matter HOW you slice it
[10:06] <Hentai> shotgun
[10:06] <Kyral> ....someone has a nick of Hentai....
[10:06] <tiglionabbit> w00t!
[10:06] <odie5533> Kyral: it is a kind of highspeed, but I doubt it actually ads speed. It compresses the files before it sends them, so they are smaller and then you uncompress them
[10:06] <neyz> its ok i will download the full cd - 2MB/s here - :d
[10:06] <tiglionabbit> I have both kaffeine and beep-media-player playing sound at the same time
[10:07] <Kyral> yah, its still 56k
[10:07] <odie5533> I suppose so
[10:07] <tiglionabbit> now, how can I get vlc and mplayer to play nicely too?
[10:07] <odie5533> I'm happy with the speed too
[10:07] <HappyFool> odie5533: how do they compress compressed files then? ;-)
[10:07] <Kyral> at school I have Duel T3
[10:07] <odie5533> happyfool: UHARC, though they dont use it
[10:07] <dockane> so we ve got different definitions here of dial up ... since my dsl provider is PPPoE which is somehow dial up. but dont mind, the point that ubuntu does not include an easy way to share _any internet connection is really sluggish for a desktop os with a "wannabe user friendly attitude"
[10:07] <Kyral> but its broken into so many "streams" that my cable is faster
[10:07] <tiredbones> Blissex, If I have to buy a new modem for a DSL line what would you recommend?
[10:08] <dockane> or did i miss anyhting ?
[10:08] <Kyral> dockane, I use a Linksys Router to share my cable conn
[10:08] <Blissex> tiredbones: almost anything with an Ethernet interface, not USB.
[10:09] <Kyral> Cable Modem ---> Linksys Wireless Router ~~~Wireless~~~> My families 3 PCs
[10:09] <Blissex> tiredbones: I have a Belkin and it (like 3com and SMC) has some sw defects. Netgear has a few good models, but some are dodgy, and Linksys is not too bad.
[10:09] <odie5533> Kyral: wireless is crap
[10:09] <odie5533> packet loss up the poopie hole
[10:09] <Blissex> tiredbones: there are also very many really cheap Conexant based ones, that for the price are not bad.
[10:09] <dockane> Kyral, congratulation. that makes you rised abouve any ubuntu user who has to find his way
[10:09] <Ralc> heheh how do i install xine-ui? i got it from the package-thingy but where has it been installed?
[10:10] <Big_O> err what audio controler should i use audio controller with fluxbox?
[10:10] <Discipulus> Ralc, did you use apt-get ?
[10:10] <Blissex> tiredbones: but the crucial thing is the Ethernet interface, not USB or internal.
[10:10] <HappyFool> Ralc: applications -> sound and video -> xine
[10:10] <odie5533> Ralc: sudo apt-get install xine-ui
[10:10] <Blissex> Ralc: 'dpkg -L <package name>'
[10:10] <odie5533> lol so many different answers
[10:10] <Ralc> hehe yeah
[10:10] <tinman> hello, i have a usb dvd-r drive and i get a crash when it goes to scd0-scd4, is there any way to force it to stay on scd5 after rebooting?
[10:10] <odie5533> Ralc, I think it best you explain what you are trying to do
[10:11] <Ralc> i tried odie5533's
[10:11] <odie5533> yay!
[10:11] <Big_O> http://ubuntuguide.org/#xine-ui << xine instalation guide
[10:11] <odie5533> then just type xine in terminal
[10:11] <tiredbones> Blissex,Ok thanks. I know my isp will not support me anymore.
[10:11] <odie5533> and it should run
[10:11] <tiglionabbit> actually, gxine is probably a better choice
[10:11] <Kyral> dockane: WTF? *looks confused*
[10:11] <tiglionabbit> xine-ui looks crayzee
[10:11] <odie5533> tiglionabbit, same backend, whats it matter
[10:11] <tiglionabbit> and don't hawk ubuntugide
[10:11] <Ralc> YES it worked :) but its not in my program list
[10:11] <Discipulus> Ralc, type xine-ui at a command line and tell me what happens?
[10:11] <Ralc> under sound and video
[10:11] <tiglionabbit> odie5533: well it's a different UI.  One that looks more bad-ass, but has lots of useless buttons on it
[10:12] <tiglionabbit> !ubuntuguide
[10:12] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is a helpful guide for new users located at http://ubuntuguide.org
[10:12] <odie5533> Ralc: I dont think it ever will be. Anyways, I suggest you use Totem-xine instead, its easy to use with the same backend
[10:12] <Kyral> !wiki
[10:12] <tiglionabbit> hey, ubotu has a positive definition of that?
[10:12] <odie5533> Kyral's scripts broked
[10:12] <tiglionabbit> ubotu forget ubuntuguide
[10:12] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: i forgot ubuntuguide
[10:12] <odie5533> ubuntuguide is great
[10:12] <Discipulus> lol
[10:12] <Discipulus> no it isn't
[10:12] <odie5533> Thats how I set some things up
[10:12] <odie5533> yes!
[10:13] <Ralc> Discipulus, Command not found
[10:13] <Discipulus> Ralc, then do 'sudo apt-get install xine-ui'
[10:13] <odie5533> teaches you things fast, exactly what I want
[10:13] <kbrooks> ubuntu guide is teh broken
[10:13] <bojan> hi! i wanted to compile a .cpp file with gcc and the shell says: installation problem cannot exec 'cclplus': No such file or directory
[10:13] <Discipulus> odie5533, it doesn't TEACH you anything
[10:13] <kbrooks> dont use it!
[10:13] <tiglionabbit> ubotu ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:13] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[10:13] <dockane> Kyral, of course its a solution to spend money on a router. but whats the problem with internet connection sharing with a ubuntu system that either way is running and runs 2 nics ?
[10:13] <odie5533> Ralc: the command is xine, thats why
[10:13] <tiredbones> Blissex, Can I use minicon to try and trouble shoot the VisionNet 201 modem I have?
[10:13] <tiglionabbit> bojan: install build-essential
[10:13] <HappyFool> brojan: try 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[10:13] <kbrooks> odie5533, it teaches you ZERO
[10:13] <HappyFool> although that error's a little odd.
[10:13] <odie5533> kbrooks: how so?
[10:13] <bojan> tiglionabbit: how can i do that?
[10:14] <Blissex> tiredbones: 'minicom' is only for analog modems...
[10:14] <odie5533> I now know how to install flashplayer for mozilla!
[10:14] <tiglionabbit> bojan: use synaptic
[10:14] <kbrooks> odie5533, you get commands thrown at you without explanation
[10:14] <bojan> tiglionabbit: thanks
[10:14] <Kyral> dockane, Sorry....
[10:14] <kbrooks> odie5533, also:
[10:14] <tiredbones> Blissex, Are there any tool that can be used/
[10:14] <Kyral> its like only way I know how to share a net conn ATM
[10:14] <odie5533> kbrooks: Its aimed at people that dont want an explanation, so why give them one
[10:14] <Blissex> tiredbones: but for what? I haven't really understood what the problem is and the context.
[10:15] <tiglionabbit> odie5533: it is most always better to read the wiki.  I've shoved some topics into ubotu that will cover most things ubuntuguide does
[10:15] <kbrooks> odie5533, hold on hold on
[10:15] <odie5533> Consider a typical windows user. Testing out ubuntu for the first time. But wait! his video player isn't working! What will he do? He wants to watch a movie now, not read a wiki. ubuntu guide to the rescue!!!! *ubuntuguide theme song plays in the background*
[10:15] <kbrooks> odie5533, the ubuntu guide is for a knowledgable person
[10:15] <tiredbones> Blissex, I'm trying to se if my modem is working or is there some value I have to change.
[10:16] <kbrooks> odie5533, not a noob
[10:16] <tiredbones> Blissex, to see what wrong with it.
[10:16] <Blissex> tiredbones: but you first need to define fairly precisely what happens and what does not work.
[10:16] <jeroen_> How do I get the output of program 'X' in a txt file?
[10:16] <odie5533> kbrooks: I disagree
[10:16] <HappyFool> jeroen_: X > file.txt
[10:16] <kbrooks> odie5533, dude
[10:16] <odie5533> I didn't know any linux, then I found the guide, helped me learn some basics. When I got confortable with the commands, I looked into them
[10:16] <HappyFool> jeroen_: or maybe X >& file.txt, if you're still getting terminal output
[10:17] <kbrooks> odie5533, might i please give you a example?
[10:17] <odie5533> linux is used loosely
[10:17] <doonz> is there a way to see how my process is working ie what speed?
[10:17] <odie5533> apt-get install
[10:17] <odie5533> I didnt know what it did, I could guess, but I didnt
[10:17] <tiglionabbit> odie5533: it shouldn't have helped you learn.  It's much better to pick up a unix manual to learn how to get around first
[10:17] <HappyFool> doonz: try cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:17] <kbrooks> tiglionabbit, erm
[10:17] <kbrooks> you serious?
[10:17] <Ralc> odie5533, okay i got totem-xine to work and its perfect :) thanks
[10:17] <odie5533> unix manuals take time, I wanted results, not a knowledge of how it works
[10:17] <kbrooks> odie5533, pm me please
[10:18] <doonz> oh cool
[10:18] <HappyFool> doonz: unless you mean frequency scaling or similar, in which case i don't know
[10:18] <tiglionabbit> I don't mean an actual unix MANUAL, but a guide to using unix
[10:18] <bojan> can i compile .cpp files with gcc?
[10:18] <tiredbones> Blissex, Ok, I'm going to reconnect my old modem and get the error message I'm getting. brb
[10:18] <HappyFool> bojan: with g++
[10:18] <odie5533> Ralc: You should also install win32codecs, it lets you play wmv files. sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[10:18] <doonz> model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+
[10:18] <bojan> HappyFool: thanks
[10:18] <tiglionabbit> !w32codecs
[10:18] <bloodlust> what up all
[10:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, w32codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats or http://ubuntuguide.org
[10:18] <bloodlust> can somebody help me here
[10:18] <tiglionabbit> grr
[10:18] <HappyFool> heh
[10:18] <bloodlust> im just tryin to copy my dvd's
[10:18] <tiglionabbit> ubotu forget w32codecs
[10:18] <ubotu> i forgot w32codecs, tiglionabbit
[10:18] <Discipulus> odie5533, if you want results without knowing how it works then go back to windows...
[10:18] <HappyFool> tiglionabbit: ubotu has gone to the dark side!
[10:19] <bloodlust> i have the dvd ripping through terminal package installed
[10:19] <doonz> can someone recomend a good book to have?
[10:19] <odie5533> Discipulus: I am trying to atm. Grub won't let me
[10:19] <bloodlust> if i gotta do it through terminal i will
[10:19] <klaym> hey I'm about to uninstall w3m (it's annoying). it depends on 'ubuntu-base' so it needs to be deleted too. should I go for it?
[10:19] <odie5533> doonz: on what?
[10:19] <bloodlust> i just can't find commands for it
[10:19] <doonz> linux
[10:19] <jeroen_> thanks HappyFool
[10:19] <bloodlust> can anybody help me?
[10:19] <doonz> like basics and intermediate stuff
[10:19] <HappyFool> bloodlust: try maybe 'dpkg -L dvdrip' at the terminal
[10:19] <concept10> doonz, search for rute
[10:19] <tiglionabbit> klaym: NO!  You don't have to uninstall things in dependencies in that order!?
[10:19] <Discipulus> doonz, running linux, 3rd edition
[10:20] <doonz> kool
[10:20] <bloodlust> HappyFool ---- what does that do?
[10:20] <doonz> thnx guys
[10:20] <Ralc> odie5533, it couldnt find the package
[10:20] <HappyFool> bloodlust: lists files belonging to package dvdrip
[10:20] <concept10> doonz, http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/
[10:20] <odie5533> try win32codecs then
[10:20] <tiglionabbit> ubotu w32codecs is codecs needed to play some proprietary formats.    Add a backports mirror to download them http://backports.ubuntuforums.org
[10:20] <klaym> how can I set my default applications, such as web browser, music player, etc? so that when I click a file it opens up that specific application
[10:20] <tiglionabbit> that is much better
[10:21] <odie5533> Ralc: you entered it in wrong, it is w32codecs
[10:21] <tiglionabbit> klaym: in nautilus, right-click on a file and select properties.  Go to the opens-with tab
[10:21] <Ralc> odie5533, i copied it from you? :)
[10:21] <odie5533> Then I typed it wrong ;)
[10:21] <bloodlust> HappyFool - yes it does how do I rip a dvd from the command prompt any idea?
[10:21] <odie5533> Ralc: another good command to know is apt-cache search <search arg, such as codecs>
[10:21] <concept10> ubotu Rute is Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition. A great guide for learning about Linux and is available at http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/
[10:21] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, concept10
[10:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> whats the best way to move 32.2 gigs of crap from one hard drive toanother?
[10:22] <klaym> tiglionabbit: thanks
[10:22] <Ralc> odie5533, why not use the app? ehm symaptic
[10:22] <concept10> ubotu Rute is a great guide for learning about Linux and is available at http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/
[10:22] <ubotu> okay, concept10
[10:22] <tiglionabbit> !defaults
[10:22] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:22] <HappyFool> bloodlust: not a clue, sorry
[10:22] <Blissex> ChurcH_of_FoamY: depends; 'pax' and a two-'tar' pipe come to mind, as well as 'rsync'.
[10:22] <bloodlust> damn
[10:22] <HappyFool> bloodlust: maybe 'man dvdrip' will tell you ?
[10:23] <othernoob> how do i stop a ping command?
[10:23] <Ralc> odie5533, and why is sudo always written first?
[10:23] <odie5533> Ralc: You will get bored of bulky frontends quite quickly. The console is your friend
[10:23] <tiglionabbit> Ralc: there are two ways to do everything in linux.  Either apt-get/cache, or aptitude, or synaptic, or whatever else you want
[10:23] <odie5533> sudo means root
[10:23] <odie5533> it executes it as root
[10:23] <tiglionabbit> !sudo
[10:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[10:23] <bloodlust> HappyFool -- any idea of a good dvd burning proggy for ubuntu
[10:23] <bloodlust> ?
[10:23] <odie5533> Ubuntu doesnt enable the root user by default for security reasons
[10:23] <jmoesen> othernoob: ctrl-c
[10:23] <bloodlust> i have gnome baker
[10:23] <odie5533> it can be enabled though, but try to work around it
[10:23] <HappyFool> bloodlust: sorry, no. i think cdrecord is the common backend for all burning apps, but it's not really user-friendly
[10:24] <othernoob> thanks jmoesen, i forgot :/
[10:24] <odie5533> basically, root is given permission for everything, you the user isn't. However, you can just add sudo before something, and it will execute as root
[10:24] <jmoesen> np
[10:24] <HappyFool> bloodlust: maybe k3b can do dvd's, i don't know
[10:24] <tiglionabbit> hey
[10:24] <tiglionabbit> yeah k3b can burn dvds
[10:24] <jmoesen> can anyone tell me how i can get the brand or type of network card that is installed?
[10:24] <tiglionabbit> I used it to burn the ubuntu live/install dvd
[10:24] <Ralc> odie5533, what a good security then :D
[10:24] <concept10> jmoesen, lspci
[10:24] <HappyFool> jmoesen: looked at system -> administration -> device manager ?
[10:24] <Discipulus> How expensive are DVD Burners and Blank DVDs these days?
[10:24] <jmoesen> concept10thx!
[10:25] <tiglionabbit> jmoesen: is it listed in system -> admin -> device manager?
[10:25] <hussam> till when will Hoary still be supported with updates?
[10:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm getting point2play ^_^
[10:25] <jmoesen> HappyFool: it's on a server, no x installed
[10:25] <odie5533> Ralc: I see it as idiot proof, so you dont accidently delete your hard drive
[10:25] <HappyFool> jmoesen: as concept10 suggested, try lspci
[10:25] <Choubaka> Ralc: you have a point... :P
[10:25] <tiglionabbit> hussam: Hoary has updates released all the time.  In fact, I just updated something this morning
[10:25] <spola> Discipulus, i have a dvd-rw +rw cd-rw for $80
[10:25] <tiglionabbit> hussam: you may need to select the proper repositories.
[10:25] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[10:25] <ubotu> repositories is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:25] <kbrooks> !ubuntuguide
[10:25] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:25] <jmoesen> "Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c900 10Mbps Combo [Boomerang] " --> well, that pretty much explains why i couldn't set it to 100Mbps :-)
[10:25] <kbrooks> erm
[10:25] <spola> disks are like a buck
[10:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how come when i try to copy files to a new hard drive not all of the copy?
[10:25] <jmoesen> thanks again, concept10
[10:25] <othernoob> Discipulus: a burner ~60$ max, 100 blank dvds ~40 max @ebay
[10:25] <Choubaka> Ralc: imagine a user exploit which runs "passw"
[10:25] <Choubaka> passwd*
[10:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> them copy even
[10:25] <Ralc> odie5533, but still, it cannot find w32codecs
[10:25] <Choubaka> instant sudo access :P
[10:26] <kbrooks> tiglionabbit, add the link to the 3. stuff...
[10:26] <jozzer> is it not possible to remove the totem player wo removed the ubuntu desktop????????
[10:26] <odie5533> Ralc: sudo apt-get update
[10:26] <HappyFool> hussam: for 18 months after release, i believe. so until october 2006
[10:26] <tiglionabbit> kbrooks: to what stuff?
[10:26] <hussam> tiglionabbit: I meant for how many months
[10:26] <hussam> HappyFool: ok thanks.
[10:26] <odie5533> Ralc: if that doesn't work you need to add the universe and multiverse to your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[10:26] <odie5533> !universe
[10:26] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[10:26] <JesusAteMyFaith> jozzer, removing the ubuntu-desktop is no big deal you can reinstall that its a placeholder AFAIK
[10:26] <odie5533> !repositories
[10:26] <ubotu> hmm... repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:26] <kbrooks> erm, the link that advises you not to mention the ubuntu guide
[10:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> because i'm trying to copy 32 gigs worth of files that i can't afford to loose back to the hard drive it was originally on
[10:27] <tiglionabbit> jmoesen: yes you can remove it, go ahead.  Ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage with nothing in it.  It's just there to pull other packages in
[10:27] <HappyFool> jozzer: according to ubuntu-desktop description, it can be safely removed
[10:27] <doubleplus> hello, could anybody have an idea why, during install,  the network configuration fails with dhcp
[10:27] <JesusAteMyFaith> just reinstall ubuntu-desktop before you upgrade to breezy
[10:27] <hussam> HappyFool: the thing is that by Breezy ( october 2005) , I might be to busy with work to upgrade to breezy.
[10:27] <odie5533> doubleplus: is your dhcp server enabled?
[10:27] <Ralc> odie5533, oh thats crap i understand nuthin of that guide
[10:28] <HappyFool> hussam: hoary's ok until october 2006 -- so you should be ok for a while
[10:28] <doubleplus> 0die5533:yes other machines are running off of it
[10:28] <kbrooks> odie5533, ralc needs efficient explanations.....in the guide
[10:28] <concept10> doubleplus, connectivity problems make sure its plugged in
[10:28] <kbrooks> the guide doesnt explain
[10:28] <tiglionabbit> Ralc: What do you need explained?
[10:28] <kbrooks> it throws commands at you
[10:28] <doubleplus> concept10:of course
[10:28] <odie5533> Ralc: www.ubuntuguide.org
[10:29] <Ralc> haha nevermind its okay now i see it
[10:29] <tiglionabbit> !ubuntuguide
[10:29] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:29] <tiredbones> Before I go back to my modem problem I saw another problem while  booting my system.
[10:29] <odie5533> Ralc: [CTRL]  + [F]  "repositor"
[10:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> arggh this is getting to me
[10:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[10:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i want to copy these damn files
[10:29] <odie5533> "I heard ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation" <-- owned
[10:29] <HappyFool> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what's wrong with rsync ? or even just cp ?
[10:29] <tiglionabbit> odie5533: thank you.
[10:29] <odie5533> why does ubuntu hate ubuntu guide... it only helps people :(
[10:29] <kbrooks> odie5533, STOP IT
[10:29] <tiredbones> I'm getting an error "ror: Temporary failure in name resolution" can someone tell me what this is?
[10:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> besides the fact that i don't know how to use them....nothing
[10:30] <kbrooks> odie5533, stop mentioning it
[10:30] <JesusAteMyFaith> odie5533, actually people on the ubuntuforums recommend it
[10:30] <odie5533> ouch
[10:30] <kbrooks> JesusAteMyFaith, yes, but we dont
[10:30] <JesusAteMyFaith> kbrooks, I know
[10:30] <tiglionabbit> tiredbones: that means you couldn't connect to some server.  You probably don't have your internet plugged in or working properly
[10:30] <HappyFool> ChurcH_of_FoamY: 'man cp' or 'man rsync' or even 'cp --help'
[10:30] <othernoob> church, just man cp, the syntax is pretty easy.
[10:30] <kbrooks> JesusAteMyFaith, do you still have the link to the reasons not to advise people about the ubunntu guide
[10:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok so how would i rsync a specific folder?
[10:30] <HappyFool> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you could also use the nautilus file-browser, i guess, assuming src and dest are mounted
[10:31] <bloodlust> does anybody have the program Gear PRO for Linux
[10:31] <bloodlust> i am in need of it
[10:31] <kbrooks> JesusAteMyFaith, because i dont
[10:31] <odie5533> can't you just do cp -Rfv foo bar
[10:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes they both are but for some reason not all of the files are getting copyd
[10:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> out of 32gigs only 8 have been moved
[10:31] <JesusAteMyFaith> kbrooks, which is smart to do, I would hate to have to provide support to some unofficial guide (however helpful it may appear or be) because its unofficial and because it's always changing
[10:31] <HappyFool> ChurcH_of_FoamY: maybe rsync -a is what you want
[10:31] <odie5533> ChurcH_of_FoamY: cp -Rfv foo bar
[10:31] <kbrooks> use dd?
[10:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the others will not copy to the new drive
[10:31] <light_punch2> what's the minium spec to run ubuntu?
[10:31] <hussam> HappyFool: maybe I 'll edit source.list to breezy and do I a gradual update even if it takes weeks.
[10:31] <kbrooks> JesusAteMyFaith, LINK US to it please
[10:31] <JesusAteMyFaith> kbrooks, to what?
[10:31] <faul> hi there
[10:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> um ok you already lost me
[10:31] <HappyFool> hussam: oh, right, low bandwidth
[10:31] <odie5533> light_punch2: Pretty much anything. What do you have?
[10:31] <Ralc> odie5533, okay i got it now i removed some ## and wrote multiverse.. guess what, it does not work
[10:32] <tiredbones> tiglionabbit, Would this have something to do with the fact that I just installed Apache2?
[10:32] <tiglionabbit> tiredbones: perhaps
[10:32] <odie5533> Ralc: you can't just write multiverse, one sec
[10:32] <HappyFool> hussam: i'd recommend downloading the install CD over a weekend (or whatever), and upgrading with that. but not now! ;)
[10:32] <kbrooks> JesusAteMyFaith: "to the reasons not to advise people about the ubunntu guide"
[10:32] <hussam> HappyFool: 64 kylobits only lol
[10:32] <HappyFool> hussam: hey, i've got 56k and i got the hoary install cd in a weekend
[10:32] <light_punch2> odie5533, 500mhz, 256 ram, 200gb hard
[10:32] <tiredbones> tiglionabbit, How would I go about checking this?
[10:32] <tiglionabbit> tiredbones: if it's just apache complaining to you, it probably doesn't know how to make some connection.  I have not used it though
[10:32] <ogg> hello. How do I make a search on the disk of a .jpg
[10:32] <JesusAteMyFaith> kbrooks, you mean this?: <nalioth> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[10:33] <odie5533> itll run fine. Install server though
[10:33] <HappyFool> ogg: try    locate '*.jpg'
[10:33] <kickrocks> I just installed on ia64
[10:33] <tiglionabbit> ogg: search for .jpgs?  If it has been around for a while, locate .jpg
[10:33] <hussam> HappyFool: on 8kbytes per socond, it would take like 35 hours.
[10:33] <kbrooks> JesusAteMyFaith, thanks
[10:33] <kbrooks> ubotu, ubuntu guide
[10:33] <ubotu> kbrooks: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:33] <JesusAteMyFaith> kbrooks, no problem for Jesus, just another miracle. :)
[10:33] <kbrooks> ubotu, ubuntuguide
[10:33] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:33] <HappyFool> hussam: sounds about right. took me about 50, i think
[10:33] <othernoob> HappyFool, what's the difference between locate and find?
[10:33] <odie5533> Ralc: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:33] <concept10> ogg, or use places > search for files
[10:33] <hussam> HappyFool: 64 kbits is 8kbytes right?
[10:33] <odie5533> Ralc: then put in it http://pastebin.com/308532
[10:34] <HappyFool> othernoob: locate uses a daily-updated index, and is quicker
[10:34] <othernoob> hussam, yes
[10:34] <concept10> Why do you guys keep repeating that crap about ubuntu guide?
[10:34] <ogg> im running ubuntu minimal install + fluxbox.
[10:34] <tiglionabbit> othernoob: locate uses a database prepared by updatedb.  It's much faster.  Find has more complicated syntax, and searches on the fly
[10:34] <HappyFool> hussam: yeah. i'm not sure what the deal with start/stop bits and all that nonsense is
[10:34] <odie5533> Ralc: then run sudo apt-get update, and try again
[10:34] <ogg> the locate command doesnt seem to work.
[10:34] <kbrooks> ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[10:34] <othernoob> okay, but the result is pretty much the same innit?
[10:34] <odie5533> 95% done shredding!
[10:34] <kbrooks> erm
[10:34] <kbrooks> ubotu, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[10:34] <ubotu> ...but ubuntuguide is already something else...
[10:34] <HappyFool> ogg: then maybe this (slowish):      find / -iname '*.jpg'
[10:35] <kbrooks> how do i append?
[10:35] <tiglionabbit> ogg: locate will work as long as updatedb has been run recently.  Your computer will run it automatically every once in a while.  'sudo updatedb' to run it now
[10:35] <kbrooks> to a command
[10:35] <kbrooks> anyone?
[10:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> um whats this mean?
[10:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> cp -Rfv /Desktop/STORAGE /storage/shane/STORAGE
[10:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> cp: cannot stat `/Desktop/STORAGE': No such file or directory
[10:35] <othernoob> tiglionabbit, but the results of find and locate are the same right?
[10:35] <light_punch2> is ubuntu faster than slackware?
[10:35] <kbrooks> tiglionabbit, how do i append to a command?
[10:35] <HappyFool> it means /Desktop/Storage doesn't exist
[10:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> but i'm in it
[10:35] <tiglionabbit> othernoob: they should be, yes
[10:35] <odie5533> ChurcH_of_FoamY, do ./Desktop/Storage
[10:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[10:36] <lsuactiafner> mkdir /storage/shane/STORAGE
[10:36] <tiglionabbit> kbrooks: append what now?
[10:36] <HappyFool> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you don't maybe mean Desktop/Storage? / is absolute
[10:36] <ogg> find -/ does work. thanx giys.
[10:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> um ok >.<
[10:36] <kbrooks> "Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines" to ubuntuguide
[10:36] <ogg> is there anyone got an explanation why windows platforms does feel much more snappy, responsive than linuxdistros.
[10:37] <doubleplus> Does the plug and play option in the bios make any diffrence to an install?
[10:37] <tiglionabbit> ogg: you may need to install a better kernel image
[10:37] <ogg> I dont say windows platforms is technically faster, but its still more snappy.
[10:37] <tiredbones> What's the easiest way to stop apache2 from start when I reboot?
[10:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.< it's there damnit
[10:37] <tiglionabbit> ogg: search synaptic for one for your architecture
[10:37] <kickrocks> more broked maybe
[10:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i am in it it exists >.<
[10:37] <kbrooks> tiglionabbit, ^^^^^
[10:37] <goldfish> ogg: what distros u tried?
[10:37] <kbrooks> ChurcH_of_FoamY, .
[10:37] <kbrooks> use .
[10:37] <ogg> ubuntu, mandrake
[10:37] <kickrocks> ME, 95, and 98 se ?
[10:37] <JesusAteMyFaith> ogg, #politics is a good channel for debates
[10:37] <ogg> xp, win2k.
[10:38] <tiglionabbit> hehe
[10:38] <othernoob> ogg, try gentoo then
[10:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> both are there destination and the origon
[10:38] <ogg> I now many other windows > linux switchers also think so.
[10:38] <tiglionabbit> othernoob: don't scare him away
[10:38] <kbrooks> othernoob, dude
[10:38] <othernoob> lol
[10:38] <JonnyRo> Is there any reason for the large number of md5sum mismatches i keep getting lately
[10:38] <concept10> ogg, I sure dont
[10:38] <HappyFool> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what does 'ls -d ./Desktop/Storage' say?
[10:38] <JonnyRo> when downloading patches via synaptic?
[10:38] <jg> I'm getting them too....
[10:38] <tiglionabbit> ogg: just make sure you have your video acceleration and the proper kernel, and it should be quite fast
[10:38] <kbrooks> JonnyRo, yes
[10:38] <othernoob> tiglionabbit, didn't he ask for a snappy one? ;)
[10:38] <kbrooks> jg: yes
[10:38] <JonnyRo> kbrooks, what's up?
[10:38] <ogg> tiglion. aight.
[10:38] <JesusAteMyFaith> ogg, everytime I format Windows for someone and install Linux, Jesus tapdances for joy in heaven
[10:39] <HappyFool> heh
[10:39] <kbrooks> JonnyRo, use the main repo
[10:39] <Big_O> umm
[10:39] <jg> kbrooks: which one is that?
[10:39] <JonnyRo> kbrooks, is it because i have the backports repo setup?
[10:39] <ogg> hehe. firefox really slows down the computer. but it does render all pages correctly. anyone know a faster browser?
[10:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it says it's not there but i'm freakin lookin right at it O_O
[10:39] <JonnyRo> i'll turn that off
[10:39] <JesusAteMyFaith> ogg, and it doesn't get more snappier than that
[10:39] <cmatheson> ogg: links?
[10:39] <Big_O> ok, then O.o*cant adjust the volume*
[10:39] <kbrooks> JonnyRo, used the ubuntu guide?
[10:39] <othernoob> ogg try lynx :)
[10:39] <JesusAteMyFaith> ogg, w3m
[10:39] <tiglionabbit> JonnyRo: It is a good idea to comment out the backports mirrors when you are not using them
[10:40] <HappyFool> ChurcH_of_FoamY: not to be rude, but i'm going to believe the computer ;)
[10:40] <kbrooks> ubotu, forget ubuntuguide
[10:40] <ubotu> kbrooks: i forgot ubuntuguide
[10:40] <ogg> cmatheson, what?
[10:40] <HappyFool> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you're probably in the wrong directory, or something
[10:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i can see it both in nautulus and in terminal
[10:40] <kbrooks> ubotu, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation.  Please search the wiki instead, http://wiki.ubuntu.com. Reasons not to advise people to use the guide are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[10:40] <ubotu> kbrooks: okay
[10:40] <Big_O> where is the audio config located?
[10:40] <cmatheson> ogg: links, it's a browser
[10:40] <JonnyRo> yea, i used ubuntuguide.org
[10:40] <JonnyRo> k
[10:40] <concept10> ogg, how much memory do you have?  do you have ipv6 disabled?
[10:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> /home/shane/Desktop/STORAGE
[10:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is where it is
[10:40] <HappyFool> and where are you?
[10:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i can see it so the computer must be wrong
[10:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> in the same dir
[10:40] <ogg> 128mb ram. yep. it does browse the sites quite fast. but the browser itself is slow.
[10:40] <HappyFool> ChurcH_of_FoamY: does 'pwd' say?
[10:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> in both term and naut
[10:41] <HappyFool> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what does 'pwd' say? (oops)
[10:41] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: writing absolute or relative paths correctly is important when using the commandline
[10:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> /home/shane/Desktop
[10:41] <kickrocks> firefox is a huge memory leak
[10:41] <HappyFool> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you want to be in /home/shane
[10:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is what it says
[10:41] <HappyFool> ChurcH_of_FoamY: try 'cd'
[10:41] <ogg> anyone got a "not test browser" but still fast-browser.
[10:41] <ogg> ?
[10:41] <ogg> text browser
[10:41] <HappyFool> ChurcH_of_FoamY: and then try the 'cp' or whatever command again
[10:41] <concept10> ogg, your memory is the problem, not linux.
[10:41] <othernoob> opera ogg
[10:42] <cmatheson> ogg: links has a graphical mode... i don't know if the ubuntu package has it or not, but you could go build it yourself
[10:42] <Big_O> ogg lynx O.o
[10:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> cp: cannot create directory `/storage/shane/STORAGE/STORAGE': Read-only file system
[10:42] <concept10> ogg, links2 -g
[10:42] <ogg> concept. well. win2k on the same machine does run very smooth. but I assume firefox is the problem.
[10:42] <kbrooks> ubotu, newbie network guidelines is <reply>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[10:42] <ubotu> okay, kbrooks
[10:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[10:42] <HappyFool> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what are you copying to? an ntfs drive?
[10:42] <ogg> thanks guys.
[10:42] <kbrooks> there
[10:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no i changed it to ext3
[10:42] <bwlang_> I have a program that uses python 2.3... but wxpython ends up in /usr/lib/python2.4 .  How can i get wxpython to install in /usr/lib/python2.3?
[10:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it was an ntfs drive
[10:42] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: changed it, or formatted it?
[10:42] <concept10> ogg are you using gnome?
[10:42] <HappyFool> ChurcH_of_FoamY: then you need to mount it rw
[10:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> both
[10:42] <ogg> concept, fluxbox.
[10:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it is
[10:42] <kbrooks> HappyFool, read: ntfs
[10:42] <ogg> on ubuntu hoary minimal install.
[10:43] <HappyFool> ChurcH_of_FoamY: heh. i believe the computer again :P
[10:43] <ogg> fluxbox is really nice :)
[10:43] <ogg> very clean
[10:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> happyfool /dev/hdb1 on /storage type ext3 (rw)
[10:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> see
[10:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it is lying
[10:43] <HappyFool> hmm
[10:43] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: umount it, then mount it again, and tell me what mount says about it
[10:43] <ogg> clean, fast window manager for linux owns :)
[10:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok
[10:43] <Big_O> it of a whore in ubuntu though ogg
[10:43] <benplaut> well, i'm off to try Breezy Live :)
[10:44] <goldfish> fluxbox rocks
[10:44] <kbrooks> benplaut, NO
[10:44] <kbrooks> benplaut, NO
[10:44] <kbrooks> benplaut, NO
[10:44] <tiglionabbit> lol
[10:44] <benplaut> why not?
[10:44] <Big_O> >.< doesnt even have borders yet
[10:44] <jg> kbrooks: well, I get MD5 sum problems today....  Using us.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:44] <tiglionabbit> benplaut: breezy is still in early development...
[10:44] <kbrooks> benplaut, why are you trying to use breezy?
[10:44] <kbrooks> benplaut, read the topic dude
[10:44] <benplaut> kbrooks: just to check it out, see how the development is going
[10:44] <benplaut> yes, i know
[10:44] <HappyFool> it's the live cd. lighten up, guys ;)
[10:44] <benplaut> i have no plans to install, just live :)
[10:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> /dev/hdb1 on /storage type ext3 (rw)
[10:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> still looks the same
[10:45] <kbrooks> ChurcH_of_FoamY, show us the fstab entry for /storage?
[10:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok
[10:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i tryed the command using sudo
[10:46] <HappyFool> hrm. i wonder why cp says 'read-only filesystem' in that case. bizarre
[10:46] <tsume> damn it, whoever is in charge of packaging is 2 weeks late
[10:46] <kickrocks> when I type apt-get update
[10:46] <tiglionabbit> tsume: packaging what?
[10:46] <ogg> doin the x window screenshot / screendump in fluxbox. where does the images being saved?
[10:46] <tsume> I moved 2 weeks ago from TN to AK
[10:46] <kickrocks> everything returns 404 ?
[10:46] <tsume> tiglionabbit: the cds
[10:46] <tiglionabbit> o
[10:46] <tiglionabbit> thought you meant software
[10:47] <tsume> I ordered 35 x86, 4 ppc, 4 amd64
[10:47] <tsume> and damn it, now they are at the other house
[10:47] <tiglionabbit> kickrocks: is your sources.list in good condition?
[10:47] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[10:47] <ubotu> methinks repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm seems to let me copy if i sudo the command
[10:48] <HappyFool> your user needs rights to that dir
[10:48] <kickrocks> I just made the sources.list match the ubuntuguide
[10:48] <goldfish> kickrocks: dont
[10:48] <goldfish> it's bad
[10:48] <tsume> dammit :)
[10:48] <kbrooks> !newbie network guidelines
[10:48] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[10:48] <kbrooks> kickrocks, ^^^^^^^ read
[10:48] <goldfish> !sources
[10:48] <ubotu> hmm... sources is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[10:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> sudo cp -Rfv Desktop/STORAGE /storage/shane/STORAGE
[10:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Password:
[10:48] <goldfish> and then go there kickrocks
[10:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> that command worked
[10:48] <HappyFool> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you can use 'chmod' to make your user ('shane') the owner of '/storage/shane'
[10:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh is that my probelm
[10:48] <HappyFool> ChurcH_of_FoamY: oops, chown
[10:49] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wiish i had known that before lol
[10:50] <kickrocks> the 6 listed on the second URL are good ?
[10:50] <luzbelito> a good .torrent web source please ???
[10:50] <kickrocks> snarf-it
[10:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> from fstab :
[10:50] <othernoob> luzbelito: for what?
[10:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> /dev/hdb1       /storage        ext3     defaults           0	    0
[10:50] <kickrocks> torrentspy or mininova
[10:50] <kbrooks> "Ubuntuguide.org is not really a guide, but a mere list of command you might enter. It gives no explanations at all"
[10:50] <kbrooks> kickrocks, ^^^^^^^^^^
[10:50] <kickrocks> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 i was asking if this link was accurate ?
[10:51] <HappyFool> kickrocks: yip
[10:51] <kbrooks> it is
[10:51] <luzbelito> othernoob: i wanna download movies
[10:51] <s1m0> hi, anyone could help me please with alsa? ubuntu doen't load my sound device
[10:51] <othernoob> piratebay.org
[10:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea me to movies and music ^_^
[10:51] <luzbelito> music too
[10:51] <kbrooks> heh
[10:51] <tiglionabbit> kickrocks: accurate enough, yes those are all officially supported repositories that are by default simple there but commented out on the default install
[10:51] <kbrooks> tiglionabbit, not all
[10:51] <tiglionabbit> s/simple/simply
[10:52] <tiglionabbit> kbrooks: true, the multiverse must be added
[10:52] <kbrooks> er
[10:52] <kickrocks> tiglionabbit, everything in the default file give me 404
[10:52] <tiglionabbit> kickrocks: is something wrong with your internet?
[10:52] <kbrooks> tiglionabbit, universe isnt supported
[10:52] <kickrocks> not that I am aware of
[10:52] <nameless1> php5 is not installing properly for me, is it possible for me to get a binary version?
[10:52] <tiglionabbit> kbrooks: well it's in the default sources.list
[10:52] <kbrooks> power cycle your modem
[10:53] <tiglionabbit> but it does say it's unsupported
[10:53] <HappyFool> 404 means you are talking to the server, so your connection is probably fine
[10:54] <tiglionabbit> HappyFool: why would it give him that error?
[10:54] <kickrocks> i am running on crap itanium though
[10:54] <HappyFool> repo broken, maybe
[10:55] <HappyFool> kickrocks: can you post an URL giving you a 404 ?
[10:55] <jg> well, I'm getting MD5Sum errors consistently....
[10:55] <kbrooks> dinner's soon
[10:55] <kbrooks> jg: paste your entire sources.list
[10:55] <HappyFool> what, here?
[10:55] <kbrooks> on a  pastebin
[10:55] <jg> kbrooks: what's a pastebin?
[10:56] <kbrooks> jg: one is in the topic
[10:56] <HappyFool> i'm getting some funny errors on apt-get update. i guess the repo is being updated, or something
[10:56] <doonz> oh guys
[10:56] <sentinel> hi
[10:56] <HappyFool> jg: place to dump a lot of text, so we can view it
[10:56] <HappyFool> jg: dumping text in #ubuntu is considered rude
[10:56] <doonz> i have a digital camera is there software out there that will allow me to get my pics onto my comp?
[10:56] <lsuactiafner> gphoto
[10:56] <kickrocks> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages
[10:56] <doonz> that works with a canna camera?
[10:57] <spola> im having trouble with NFS can someone please help me?
[10:57] <tiglionabbit> kickrocks: shouldn't that be a -, not a / ?
[10:57] <Blue_Summer> anyone know what the command to download mozzila acitvex control is?
[10:57] <kickrocks>   404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[10:57] <Seveas> doonz, most cams work by simply plugging them in
[10:57] <spola> when i try to mount it says:mount: RPC: Programma niet geregistreerd
[10:57] <ompaul> procrastinator, you took your time doing that!
[10:57] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> shit
[10:57] <tiglionabbit> Blue_Summer: mozilla does NOT support ActiveX.  Sorry
[10:57] <Seveas> dooglus, the ones that don't usually work with gphoto
[10:57] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> something went wrong
[10:57] <lsuactiafner> no idea, but works with several hundred
[10:57] <lsuactiafner> give it a shot
[10:57] <procrastinator> ompaul: What?
[10:57] <Blue_Summer> tiglionabbit,  : root@ubuntu:/home/rob/TransGaming_Drive/Program Files/Valve/Steam # You need to install the Mozilla ActiveX control to
[10:57] <Blue_Summer> be able to view webpages in this application
[10:58] <kickrocks> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[10:58] <kickrocks> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[10:58] <jg> kbrooks: done....
[10:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it was going good then started telling me about a read only filesystem
[10:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and quit >.<
[10:58] <HappyFool> kickrocks: at a guess, things are a bit broken at the moment. try maybe again later, or tomorrow
[10:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> cp: cannot create regular file `/storage/shane/STORAGE/STORAGE/ZoneAlarm_Pro_v5.5.062.zip': Read-only file system
[10:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is one of the errors
[10:58] <ompaul> procrastinator, what does procrastinate mean :)
[10:58] <nameless1> can someone tell me if its possible to get a binary verson of php5 for ubuntu
[10:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and it startrd so well with the inital command
[10:58] <Blue_Summer> tiglionabbit,  yes it does support it lol
[10:58] <tiglionabbit> HappyFool: you sure about that?  It's working for me
[10:58] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, well, make /storage/...../ writable then :)
[10:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how?
[10:59] <Seveas> is it ntfs?
[10:59] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no
[10:59] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ext3
[10:59] <mostrodibiscotti> is there a vnc package that I can get with apt get
[10:59] <Seveas> hmm
[10:59] <HappyFool> tiglionabbit: works now
[10:59] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, chmod +w
[10:59] <Blue_Summer> Seveas, what's the command to download mozilla active x?
[10:59] <Seveas> read the manpage for chmod for details
[10:59] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so chmod +w /storage?
[10:59] <Seveas> Blue_Summer, it doesn't support it
[10:59] <procrastinator> ompaul: It means postponing things, as in laziness
[10:59] <HappyFool> tiglionabbit: i often get hiccoughs with the repo -- maybe my isp's transparent http proxy is screwing me around *shrug*
[11:00] <ogg> is there any text-based "terminal-mode" mp3-player?
[11:00] <Blue_Summer> Seveas, there are loads of websites saying you can downloading the Mozilla AcitveX control
[11:00] <tiglionabbit> HappyFool: I'm pretty sure his sources.list is just messed
[11:00] <ompaul> procrastinator, and you changed your name, I suggested you took your time, this to me was a touch of irony
[11:00] <HappyFool> Blue_Summer: are those not perhaps for windows ?
[11:00] <s1m0> hi, anyone could help me please with alsa? ubuntu doen't load my sound device
[11:00] <HappyFool> tiglionabbit: could be
[11:00] <Seveas> Blue_Summer, for one: activeX is M$ crap
[11:00] <Seveas> won't run on linux
[11:00] <kickrocks> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[11:00] <kickrocks> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[11:00] <kickrocks> are these incorrect
[11:00] <Seveas> and FF has no activeX at all...
[11:00] <HappyFool> kickrocks: no
[11:00] <procrastinator> ompaul: Oh, now i get it. I'm a little slow, as you know ;)
[11:00] <othernoob> doesn't only IE have activeX?
[11:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm do i have to do anything after i do chmod +w?
[11:01] <tiglionabbit> kickrocks: just use the ones from here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 and you'll be fine
[11:01] <HappyFool> ok, i need to go to sleep
[11:01] <kickrocks> that is what i used
[11:01] <jg> kbrooks: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/424
[11:01] <HappyFool> *wave*
[11:01] <kickrocks> tiglionabbit, I only have the 6 listed on that link exaclty how the link has them
[11:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> because it gives me the same errors still
[11:01] <ogg> I did a X Window Snapshot. Where does the snapshot being saved?
[11:01] <ogg> on the hd.
[11:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i must be the dumbest person here
[11:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[11:02] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: could be
[11:02] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: sorry =P
[11:02] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, can you paste the complete output on the pastebin :)
[11:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.< it's ok
[11:02] <kickrocks> failed to fetch sounds to me like the problem is not on my end
[11:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> shure
[11:02] <Seveas> kickrocks, sometimes the repository is a bit in flux
[11:02] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: we should apologize for not listening to you about some things
[11:03] <Seveas> kickrocks, can you paste the complete output of apt-get update on the pastebin
[11:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no it's ok i understand you guys have to help alot of noobs like me
[11:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and that it may get quite tiresome at times
[11:03] <Seveas> :)
[11:03] <Seveas> noobs aren't tiresome
[11:03] <kickrocks> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/
[11:03] <Seveas> ignorant fools are
[11:03] <kickrocks> the ia64 stuff is not there
[11:03] <Seveas> btw, you are not an ignorant fool :)
[11:04] <kickrocks> is ia64 crap on a different server ?
[11:04] <Seveas> kickrocks, no
[11:04] <kickrocks> or is ia64 scrapped
[11:04] <sve> could someone help with getting started a USB TV Tuner, please.
[11:04] <Seveas> but /dists is not the folder to look at :)
[11:04] <Seveas> you want /pool/
[11:04] <kickrocks> that is the directory the apt-get is trying
[11:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> http://pastebin.com/308556
[11:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> theres most of it
[11:04] <Seveas> kickrocks, can you paste the complete output of apt-get update on the pastebin <--
[11:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the other stuff seems to have scrolled off of the terminal
[11:05] <kickrocks> yes
[11:05] <kickrocks> I am doing that now
[11:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i just don't know what i'm doing wrong
[11:06] <ogg> anyone if there is an text-based mp3 player for ubuntu?
[11:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i must be doin somethn wrong
[11:06] <benplaut> _that_ was an interesting experience...
[11:06] <tiglionabbit> ogg: yes, mplayer
[11:06] <cmatheson> ogg: mpg123
[11:06] <cmatheson> ogg: or mpg321
[11:06] <ogg> like. play, stop, pause in the terminal =)
[11:06] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin && mount | python pastebin
[11:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> seveas huh and what?
[11:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the hell is that?
[11:06] <maxy_noob> I can't open google.com with Firefox in Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[11:06] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, command line pastebin poster ;)
[11:07] <cmatheson> ogg: i saw an ncurses frontend to mpg321 on the ruby application repository thing... you could go to ruby-lang.org and search around
[11:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> um ok
[11:07] <Seveas> you can also just type mount and paste it manually :)
[11:07] <BluesRocker> I cant configure pppconfig, my modem won't dial :(
[11:07] <cmatheson> maxy_noob: check your network settings?
[11:07] <tiglionabbit> what's the difference between mpg123 and mpg321 ?
[11:07] <foolioio> so, supposing I'd like to install firefox 1.0.4
[11:07] <maxy_noob> I can open almost every other site
[11:07] <foolioio> what'd be the most elegant way to do that?
[11:07] <Seveas> 321 is better
[11:07] <cmatheson> tiglionabbit: i think one of them wasn't "free" enough so they started 321
[11:07] <foolioio> change the sources.list?
[11:07] <JDigital`> foolioio: warty has it as standard
[11:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> um ok this looks complicated
[11:07] <JDigital`> e
[11:07] <tiglionabbit> foolioio: you already have 1.0.4, it's backported.  Change your version number
[11:07] <JDigital`> r
[11:07] <JDigital`> hoary
[11:07] <JDigital`> not warty
[11:07] <JDigital`> there's a page about it somewhere
[11:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> all i wanna do is copy files >.<
[11:07] <foolioio> cool
[11:08] <tiglionabbit> foolioio: type about:config into your address bar, and search for vendorsub.  Change the number there to 1.0.4
[11:08] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, mount just gives some output that I want to look at :)
[11:08] <JDigital`> Can anyone recommend a decent ssh client?
[11:08] <tiglionabbit> JDigital`: ssh ?
[11:08] <Seveas> JDigital`, ssh :)
[11:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok so what is wget?
[11:08] <Seveas> wgwt is a download prog
[11:08] <JDigital`> ssh doesn't work on my machine
[11:08] <woodwizzle> wget is a command line downloading program
[11:08] <foolioio> tigionabbit: wait, that just changes the string?
[11:08] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: wget is uh, web-get.  It gets stuff from the web
[11:08] <maxy_noob> any idea why only google.com and merriam-webster online wouldn't be opening?
[11:08] <JDigital`> wget is a program that downloads a URL
[11:08] <Seveas> JDigital`, what is the problem..?
[11:09] <JDigital`> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=239698 <--- This is the problem.
[11:09] <sebastjanp> sudo apt-get openssh-server
[11:09] <JDigital`> It's stumped me and a dozen people since February.
[11:09] <JDigital`> I want the client, not the server.
[11:09] <kickrocks> http://pastebin/308559
[11:09] <JDigital`> which I have anyway.
[11:09] <BluesRocker> can I write AT country code in modem driver somehow?
[11:09] <sebastjanp> hmm
[11:10] <sebastjanp> why don't you use the terminal window
[11:10] <Seveas> BluesRocker, you can put it in the modemscript...
[11:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY>  http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/425
[11:10] <BluesRocker> how?
[11:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is that what you want?
[11:10] <JDigital`> terminal window?
[11:10] <sebastjanp> ssh IP.ADRRESS
[11:10] <sebastjanp> in terminal
[11:10] <Seveas> kickrocks, hmm, are you or your provider using a proxy?
[11:10] <JDigital`> sebastjanp: Like I just said, that doesn't work for me.
[11:11] <sebastjanp> hmm
[11:11] <kickrocks> i am at my job so there is a proxy
[11:11] <procrastinator> Does anyone have experience with Rosegarden?
[11:11] <kickrocks> but this has worked before
[11:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> seveas  http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/425
[11:11] <tiglionabbit> procrastinator: I tried installing it on ubuntu.  It crashed horribly
[11:11] <Seveas> JDigital`, try without ssh keys
[11:11] <tiglionabbit> procrastinator: ima try it again
[11:12] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, od...
[11:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ?
[11:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> something wrong?
[11:12] <Seveas> no
[11:12] <Seveas> that's what's odd :)
[11:12] <Firetech> anyone know what can be wrong if I get "/etc/init.d/alsa: Warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message 'alsactl: set_control:909: failed to obtain info for control #35 (No such file or directory)'." after compiling a vanilla kernel with the same options (except the new settings) as my old ubuntu patched one?
[11:12] <procrastinator> If I start jackd and then Rosegarden, the sequencer status says that the audio is ok, and that communication with Jack went as it should
[11:12] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, has it worked before?
[11:12] <JDigital`> Seveas: How do I do without ssh keys?
[11:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> never tryed it
[11:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and can't afford to loose the data
[11:12] <Seveas> JDigital`, move your ssh key out of the way :)
[11:13] <procrastinator> tiglionabbit: Well, did you make it work with sound and everything?
[11:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it is vital i have years of crap i can't afford to lose
[11:13] <tiglionabbit> procrastinator: no..   it wont even start properly ={
[11:13] <procrastinator> But with jackd there's no sound
[11:13] <JDigital`> Where would my ssh key be?
[11:13] <BluesRocker> Seveas, what is modemscript?
[11:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> pics of family music and hard to find games
[11:13] <JDigital`> in .ssh?
[11:13] <Seveas> JDigital`, yes
[11:13] <delire> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what's up chap?
[11:13] <Seveas> id_*.key
[11:13] <procrastinator> tiglionabbit: How far did you come?
[11:13] <JDigital`> There's nothing in .ssh except known_hosts
[11:13] <JDigital`> I deleted .ssh twice already
[11:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can't copy 32.2 gigs of stuff to a diffrent drive for some reason
[11:13] <JDigital`> no fix
[11:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it just dosen't like me or something
[11:14] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, maybe the disk is full..?
[11:14] <kickrocks> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-updates/main/binary-ia64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[11:14] <delire> ChurcH_of_FoamY: from which operating system>
[11:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nope it's not
[11:14] <procrastinator> I've also tried with qjackctl, and for some reason, Rosegarden won't really communicate with that
[11:14] <delire> ChurcH_of_FoamY: to which filesystem?
[11:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the original files where on an ntfs partition
[11:14] <kickrocks> if i see dist in the url and dist is incorrect where would dist come form
[11:14] <JDigital`> maybe you don't have permissions on the drive you're copying to
[11:14] <tiglionabbit> procrastinator: typed rosegarden at terminal.  It shows a splashscreen saying "initializing view" in the corner, then pops up an error that says it couldn't initialize audio sequencing.  The gui that appears after that is completely unresponsive.  (this is rosegarden4 from synaptic)
[11:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i took them of and put them in my ubuntu
[11:14] <JDigital`> or the folder you're copying to
[11:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> then reformated the drive ext3
[11:15] <Seveas> kickrocks, hmm, that happens to me too now
[11:15] <delire> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you have the destination partition mounted?
[11:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes
[11:15] <delire> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what filesystem is it?
[11:15] <JDigital`> is it mounted ext3 now instead of ntfs
[11:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and the changes in fstab are there too
[11:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes
[11:15] <Seveas> kickrocks, comment out hoary-updates for now and retry later
[11:15] <delire> ChurcH_of_FoamY: can you ls the files in that partition?
[11:15] <tiglionabbit> delire: he's already said it's ext3
[11:15] <procrastinator> tiglionabbit, I went past that. I think it was nothing but modprobe snd-seq that did the trick.
[11:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> in which one?
[11:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> my ubuntu drive or the other one?
[11:15] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: in the one you're writing to
[11:16] <delire> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what happens when you try to write to that partition?
[11:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes some of the files have been copyd and some have not
[11:16] <procrastinator> tiglionabbit: snd_seq even
[11:16] <hooligan> are mako there?
[11:16] <hooligan> are mako there?
[11:16] <tiglionabbit> procrastinator: wow yay, that's much better!
[11:17] <tiglionabbit> procrastinator: thanks
[11:17] <Seveas> hooligan, simply /whois mako
[11:17] <Seveas> and you'll see he's been idle for 9 hours :)
[11:17] <procrastinator> tiglionabbit: Well, just wait till you see the problems that come after that ;)
[11:17] <hooligan> yeap, saw that
[11:17] <BluesRocker> my modem is installed, i hear signal, but it doesnt call number
[11:17] <delire> ChurcH_of_FoamY: when copying files for backup, always use cp -a (archive). if you have some files copied, and some not, see cp -u (update) as this will only copy new files to the location in question.
[11:17] <hooligan> thx
[11:18] <JDigital`> odd
[11:18] <JDigital`> What's cp -a?
[11:18] <delire> JDigital`: cp --archive
[11:18] <JDigital`> I mean, what's it do?
[11:19] <natu> hi....
[11:19] <REWind> Hi! I just reinstalled my Windows and in the process lost my grub boot menu. Have anyone an idea how to get it back?
[11:20] <delire> JDigital`: it's a copy that preserves symlinks, copies recursively and preserves ownership
[11:20] <JDigital`> spiffy
[11:20] <delire> JDigital`: very cool, used by recovery specialists in fact.
[11:20] <procrastinator> REWind: You need to run grub-install /dev/hda in some kind of GNU/Linux environment
[11:20] <natu> use...the ubuntu....cd...
[11:21] <procrastinator> REWind: That can be a LiveCD, a floppy, or your installed Ubuntu
[11:21] <natu> it may help...
[11:21] <pfp> hmm, seems i need to compile the nvidia driver... could you suggest, which version to choose? (to avoid the x-frozen-mouse-pointer-moves-bug)
[11:21] <REWind> procrastinator, I'm now in a liveCD.. so..
[11:21] <Seveas> REWind, wiki.ubuntu.com/recoveringgrubafterinstallingwindows
[11:21] <itz> how cme if i "sudo nautilus --no-desktop --browser /home" in a terminal it works but if i do a "shortcut" with same i just see a blink on the screen and nothing happens?
[11:21] <procrastinator> REWind: Try if you can do grub-install /dev/hda
[11:22] <Seveas> itz, because the terminal allows you to type a password for sudo
[11:22] <natu> does....anyone...knows...a cool....c/c++ ide...linux...and with syntax...highlighting...
[11:22] <Seveas> the gui not :)
[11:22] <delire> natu: does that provide the option to grub-install?
[11:22] <Seveas> itz, try gksudo in the shortcut
[11:22] <natu> other...than...the tedious...gedit...vim...
[11:22] <BluesRocker> Microsoft rules !!!
[11:22] <delire> natu: i use vim but many swear by kdevelop
[11:22] <natu> i am using gnome...man...
[11:22] <ompaul> natu there are several, xcoral, nedit, and xemacs
[11:22] <ogg> microsoft is a bit of cult :)
[11:22] <itz> Seveas,  same shit :8
[11:22] <ogg> windows machines..
[11:22] <delire> natu: vim, emacs
[11:23] <tiglionabbit> natu: how are gedit or vim tedious?
[11:23] <ompaul> natu, really you need to find one you want to use
[11:23] <natu> i dont...like...them..
[11:23] <cmatheson> i love the crap out of vim
[11:23] <natu> are very text oriented...
[11:23] <delire> cmatheson: ;)
[11:23] <natu> i want something...more graphical...
[11:23] <chromate> hi... i'm just wondering if anybody knows a good way to keep two directories in sync? for example, if i have /mnt/ext and ~/files ... if a file changes/is added to /mnt/ext, i want that synched in ~/files and vice versa
[11:23] <cmatheson> text is what you're editing, why wouldn't they be text-oriented?
[11:23] <itz> do i need to reboot or something since it could gotten hnaged up trying without gk?
[11:23] <ompaul> natu, that is very naughty of you to use all those full stops with a world wide shortage of them :)
[11:24] <Seveas> itz, by the way, running nautilus as root can totally screw up things...
[11:24] <itz> Seveas, ok? :/
[11:24] <itz> How can i browse my files in root level then?
[11:24] <natu> i am talking..about...the fancy...things...just like...eclipse/visual studio...
[11:24] <cmatheson> itz: yu don't have to be root to browse the files
[11:24] <tiglionabbit> Seveas: aw cmon, don't tell him that
[11:24] <natu> sudo cd /
[11:24] <delire> procrastinator: won't REWind have to chroot to run the grub-install?
[11:24] <cmatheson> itz: you just can't change them
[11:24] <natu> try it...
[11:24] <pyro_chaos> wats the name of the program that does package down and pre requirements also
[11:24] <tiglionabbit> itz: only do it when you need to make admin changes
[11:24] <bimberi> chromate: I use unison for that
[11:24] <pyro_chaos> download*
[11:25] <itz> Yes how can i change files then...
[11:25] <itz> in gui
[11:25] <tiglionabbit> itz: I think Seveas is afraid you'll delete something accidentally
[11:25] <natu> is anyone...interested ....in robocup...
[11:25] <natu> ????
[11:25] <cmatheson> itz: just don't use the gui if you need to change files as root
[11:25] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, it can fubare your .Xauth etc...
[11:25] <chromate> bimberi: is that free software?
[11:25] <tiglionabbit> Seveas: wha?
[11:25] <budluva> is there anyway i can get a rough location on an ip if its behind a dyndns service?
[11:25] <Seveas> natu, robocup is nice :)
[11:26] <Seveas> budluva, dig the-dyndns-name
[11:26] <natu> have...u tried..to setit up....in ubuntu...
[11:26] <itz> erhm... im not very used to linux and since commands are diferent from dos i would appriciate to use some kind of filemanager in root level :/
[11:26] <natu> the simulator...
[11:26] <Seveas> and then host the-ip-address
[11:26] <pyro_chaos> wats the name of the program that does package download and pre requirements also ?
[11:26] <Seveas> natu, no
[11:26] <signbarn> What is the command to see the free space on my mounted drives?
[11:26] <procrastinator> delire: Well, if grub-install exists on the live-cd, he won't need to. But otherwise, you're right.
[11:26] <Seveas> signbarn, df -h
[11:26] <chromate> bimberi: and more importantly, does it require a server to be running?
[11:26] <bimberi> chromate: Yes indeed :) - available in an ubuntu repository (universe) near you
[11:26] <cmatheson> itz: read a HOWTO or something on the wiki... browsing the filesystem isn't difficult
[11:26] <tiglionabbit> pyro_chaos: synaptic
[11:26] <natu> i am trying to compile some code....but..i am having some problems...
[11:26] <tiglionabbit> signbarn: df
[11:26] <bimberi> chromate: no
[11:26] <pyro_chaos> thats it thnx allot
[11:26] <Seveas> natu, being..?
[11:27] <natu> i cant get the make-files to work....
[11:27] <ogg> maan. just running a terminal, x-chat and beep-media-player. doing a free -m show free Mem 2Mbyte!
[11:27] <budluva> Seveas, <IP_ADDRESS>.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer host.promptdns.com is what i get
[11:27] <bimberi> chromate: I actually use it to backup to a remote server - but it can be used locally also
[11:27] <Seveas> natu, can you paste the error on the pastebin
[11:27] <itz> ok but anyway running nautilus in root mode doesnt bugs up things as long as im changing stuff that doesnt belong to the system right?
[11:27] <tiglionabbit> natu: well makefiles are complicated and picky.  They need to have tabs in them
[11:27] <ogg> -/+ buffers/cache shows 81Mbyte free.
[11:27] <ogg> out of 128.
[11:27] <Seveas> budluva, well, you can't get anymore than that
[11:28] <budluva> Seveas, so the server's ip is still hiding behind that host.promtdns.com, how do i get the actual machine's ip address?
[11:28] <eliUbuntu> anyone wish to help out with a problem on startup?
[11:28] <budluva> Seveas, ahh ok
[11:28] <signbarn> I know my video card & monitor can go up to 1600x1200 resolution, yet I don't get that option in the Screen Resolution menu. Is there anything I can do to force it?
[11:28] <natu> i have put in console ...make...
[11:28] <Seveas> eliUbuntu, just ask :)
[11:28] <tiglionabbit> signbarn: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the modes you want
[11:28] <natu> and as answer...i received...a message...saying..that...there were no makefile
[11:28] <ivoks> Seveas: hi
[11:28] <natu> in the current...directory.....
[11:28] <eliUbuntu> ok, the gdm screen comes up with no problem. but when i log in the splash screen never initiates
[11:29] <Seveas> ivoks, 'lo
[11:29] <natu> but the makefiles...are there...
[11:29] <tiglionabbit> natu: =\
[11:29] <wildtangent> n00b question, how do i determine what my kernel version i?
[11:29] <eliUbuntu> it just sits there
[11:29] <tiglionabbit> wildtangent: uname -a
[11:29] <itz> i think its a bit bad to have so high res and hz default i also had to change in xorg.conf  not very nice for noobs :D
[11:29] <Seveas> natu, can you skip using so many '...' please....
[11:29] <natu> the extensions....of make file are tpml
[11:29] <Seveas> wildtangent, uname -r
[11:29] <natu> why????
[11:29] <Seveas> natu, it's annoying
[11:29] <pfp> signbarn: you may need to add your monitor's specs to that file (horizsync and vertrefresh)
[11:29] <natu> are....phobic
[11:29] <eliUbuntu> i think it may be related to trying to uninstall evolution
[11:29] <natu> ???
[11:29] <natu> hehehe
[11:29] <eliUbuntu> after i saw what i removed i reinstalled it
[11:29] <chromate> bimberi: thanks for the recommendation i'll check it out!
[11:30] <natu> ok i'll try
[11:30] <tiglionabbit> !resolution
[11:30] <ubotu> somebody said resolution was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:30] <Seveas> eliUbuntu, drop to a console with <ctrl><alt><f1>, log in there and remove .ICEauthority
[11:30] <bimberi> chromate: yw :)  hope it fills your needs!
[11:30] <othernoob> just curious, are the 686 kernels stable now?
[11:30] <ivoks> othernoob: allways bin
[11:30] <Seveas> othernoob, they have been since the beginning...
[11:30] <chromate> another problem i seem to be having: i have usb-storage and ehci/ohci modules loaded, and when i plug in a remote storage device it triggers in the system logs, usb mass storage recognizes it, it identifies the device, but it fails to create a node which i can access it from (for example, /dev/sda)
[11:30] <ivoks> bin :)) been
[11:30] <ompaul> itz, http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/sect_03_01.html and search for the word visual that will help you understand something of a possible layout, you will get the major features from it
[11:31] <eliUbuntu> then try to reboot gnome afterwards?
[11:31] <eliUbuntu> after rm the file?
[11:31] <Seveas> eliUbuntu, yes
[11:31] <eliUbuntu> ok
[11:31] <itz> ompaul,  ok
[11:31] <eliUbuntu> thanks
[11:31] <ivoks> chromate: that
[11:31] <eliUbuntu> let me try
[11:31] <delire> chromate: what is the exact error?
[11:31] <ivoks> chromate: that's official kernel?
[11:31] <ivoks> chromate: sd modul isn't loaded
[11:31] <chromate> delire: i don't get an error. it just stops progressing in the mount sequence
[11:32] <delire> chromate: try modprobe sd
[11:32] <chromate> ivoks: yes, it used to work before. i'm not sure what happened.
[11:32] <Wegg_> Hey. . . can anyone pont me to a good network bandwidth monitor?
[11:32] <Seveas> Wegg_, bwm
[11:32] <othernoob> Seveas: they haven't been for me on ubuntu
[11:32] <chromate> ivoks: let me try that one sec
[11:32] <ivoks> chromate: restart hotplug (sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart)
[11:32] <eliUbuntu> ok, still no splash screen, even after removing .ICE*
[11:32] <ompaul> itz, it is really a very bad idea to naivagate a file system using a graphical tool - once you take an action - that is it, and accidents can lead to game over feelings, not really nice
[11:32] <eliUbuntu> i see the mouse cursor though
[11:32] <chromate> ivoks: module sd not found
[11:33] <itz> ompaul, thats how it work in ms / windows i dont have a roblem with it
[11:33] <tiglionabbit> ompaul: stop telling him that.  There is a friggin TRASH, you can restore files!
[11:33] <eliUbuntu> there is no hard drive activity as well
[11:33] <eliUbuntu> just sits there
[11:33] <eliUbuntu> should i do a memtest?
[11:33] <ivoks> chromate: sd_mode
[11:33] <ivoks> chromate: sd_mod
[11:33] <ivoks> chromate: pardon :)
[11:33] <Wegg_> I'll try that Seveas.  Thanks.
[11:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> seveas why can't i copy if everythings ok?
[11:33] <tiglionabbit> itz: don't let them get to you.  Hehe, I'm actually weaning myself off the console to take advantage of the prettyness of ubuntu recently
[11:34] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, no idea, maybe the kernel module has flipped
[11:34] <itz> tiglionabbit,  hehe
[11:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> whats that mean?
[11:34] <Seveas> try unmounting and remounting /storage
[11:34] <tiglionabbit> itz: I think the best solution for you would be to make a little launcher on your desktop that calls the command "gksudo nautilus" for when you want to do your admin-ing stuf
[11:34] <eliUbuntu> Seveas, when you said drop to a console, xterm right?
[11:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> seveas been there done that but what do you mean flipped?
[11:35] <TimmyJ> anyone know how to get https support in gftp? I get this error "HTTPS Support unavailable since SSL support was not compiled in. Aborting connection."
[11:35] <itz> tiglionabbit, well thats were it stared... this doesnt work: gksudo nautilus --no-desktop --browser /home
[11:35] <Seveas> eliUbuntu, no, just hit <ctrl><alt><F1> in the login screen or the hung gnome session
[11:35] <chromate> ivoks: no luck :-/
[11:35] <delire> eliUbuntu: he probably means CTRL-ALT-F1, a real console (not a virtual one like xterm)
[11:35] <tiglionabbit> itz: no desktop?
[11:35] <Seveas> ChurcH_of_FoamY, flipped out, gone crazy
[11:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[11:35] <ivoks> chromate: no module?
[11:35] <itz> tiglionabbit, something blinks but nothing happens
[11:35] <chromate> ivoks: there's a module, but no device node is created on load
[11:36] <itz> but if i do it in a terminal it works
[11:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> do you have any suggestions on what i could do to get the data off of my hard drive?
[11:36] <tiglionabbit> itz: tried just gksudo nautilus?  It should make a graphical password window
[11:36] <delire> chromate: can you post the exact error?
[11:36] <ivoks> chromate: reinsert your flash again
[11:36] <tiglionabbit> !guiadmin
[11:36] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, tiglionabbit
[11:36] <Wegg_> what total KB/sec should I expect from a Gigabit card?
[11:36] <eliUbuntu> k, rebooting the computer and we will see what happens. what is ICEauthority? thanks for your help Seveas and delire
[11:36] <ivoks> Wegg_: 60MB/s
[11:37] <Wegg_> I'm getting around 2000 KB/s
[11:37] <chrissturm> Wegg_, 60-70
[11:37] <tiglionabbit> ubotu guiadmin is create a launcher on your desktop with the command "gksudo nautilus"
[11:37] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[11:37] <chromate> ivoks, delire: here is what happens in the syslog upon plugin: http://pastebin.com/308567
[11:37] <natuzinho> is there anyone from mozambique....
[11:37] <tiglionabbit> !guiadmin
[11:37] <ubotu> rumour has it, guiadmin is create a launcher on your desktop with the command "gksudo nautilus"
[11:37] <itz> tiglionabbit, that works.... but why does the other thing just work in terminal? :/
[11:37] <Seveas> !forget guiadmin
[11:37] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot guiadmin
[11:37] <tiglionabbit> itz: what other thing?
[11:37] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, please don't feed it bad things...
[11:37] <itz> sudo nautilus --no-desktop --browser /home
[11:37] <tiglionabbit> ubotu forget guiadmin
[11:38] <tiglionabbit> Seveas: okay, I phrased that badly, but still it's a useful entry
[11:38] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, no
[11:38] <ivoks> chromate: well, everything is ok
[11:38] <Seveas> running nautilus as root is bad
[11:38] <tiglionabbit> Seveas: WHY?
[11:38] <chromate> ivoks: but there are no /dev/sd* nodes created
[11:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how long does it take for sudo to clear it's self from memory?
[11:38] <chrissturm> ha, gksudo nautilus, great!
[11:38] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, as I said: it can FUBAR your .Xauth / .ICEauthority..
[11:38] <itz> Seveas, yes why
[11:38] <tiglionabbit> Seveas: how and why?
[11:38] <Wegg_> So I'm getting 2mb/s and I should be getting 60?  No way. . . hard drives can't even do 60. . .
[11:38] <ivoks> chromate: ls -dl /dev/sda
[11:38] <delire> chromate: it looks fine
[11:39] <itz> Seveas, is there any other tool that doesnt do that?
[11:39] <chromate> ivoks: no such file or directory
[11:39] <procrastinator> Tres.
[11:39] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, search bugzilla/forums, happened to lots of people
[11:39] <ivoks> chromate: ls -dl dev/scsi/host4/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
[11:39] <kbrooks> uh?
[11:39] <chrissturm> Wegg_, if you try to copy files its much less.
[11:39] <Big_O> i need a sound mixer to start with fluxbox
[11:39] <kbrooks> Seveas, what happened to lots of people
[11:39] <chromate> ivoks: for some reason there is no scsi directory in there
[11:40] <tiglionabbit> Seveas: where's that?  Can you give me an example?
[11:40] <delire> chromate: i would look for changes in /dev/sd* when you plug and unplug the device to see which device node is created.
[11:40] <rep2> i have java installed, but it will only work by "./java -version". How do i get the command "java -version" working?
[11:40] <Seveas> kbrooks, .ICEauth /.Xauth got fubar -> next login hangs
[11:40] <chromate> delire: that's the thing, there are NO /dev/sd* nodes
[11:40] <Wegg_> I just can't even figure out if this gigabit card is working
[11:40] <Wegg_> I got a kind of no-name brand card.
[11:40] <Wegg_> Zyxel.
[11:40] <ivoks> chromate: did you mess with udev?
[11:40] <chromate> ivoks: i don't believe so
[11:40] <kbrooks> Seveas, er, define hangs
[11:40] <eliUbuntu> Seveas: your recommendation worked. Thank you for your help. May I ask what is ICEauthority and why prevented ubuntu from loading correctly?
[11:40] <ivoks> chromate: you don't belive or you didn't? :)
[11:40] <Xenguy> Are there any Ubuntu developers in the house currently?
[11:41] <chromate> ivoks: i haven't touched the kernel, haven't changed any software unless it was included in some recent apt-get update/upgrade
[11:41] <kbrooks> Seveas, a chown user:user then a chmod solved it
[11:41] <kbrooks> for me
[11:41] <Seveas> kbrooks, it's like what happened to eliUbuntu, after entering your password, gnome hangs, you never get even the splash screen
[11:41] <bddebian> Xenguy: Why do you ask?
[11:41] <Seveas> kbrooks, sure
[11:41] <ivoks> chromate: ok
[11:41] <Seveas> but it still is a bad thing because of this
[11:41] <delire> ivoks: maybe he's installed udev or something
[11:41] <Seveas> not everyone knows it
[11:41] <tiglionabbit> Seveas: what am I looking for?  Could you give me an example?
[11:41] <kbrooks> Seveas, i inadvertently said chmod 666 in a terminal once on debian
[11:41] <ivoks> delire: udev should be instalated
[11:41] <Big_O> ok whats the comand for the sound mixer
[11:42] <kbrooks> Seveas, and debian gnome didnt start
[11:42] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, search for 'login problem' 'Iceauthority' 'no splash'
[11:42] <Arkainium> Hmm, I spotted these two lines in my syslog, but can't understand what they mean.  I have a brand new hard drive installed.  Jul  6 17:08:29 localhost kernel: ata1: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[11:42] <Arkainium> Jul  6 17:08:29 localhost kernel: ata1: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
[11:42] <bddebian> Heya nalioth
[11:42] <ivoks> chromate: and there is no /proc/scsi?
[11:42] <Big_O> alsamixer is saying something about elems
[11:42] <Seveas> Big_O, alsamixer
[11:42] <delire> ivoks: debian here.. well perhaps he should look at /dev/ub* then
[11:42] <ivoks> chromate: and there is no /dev/scsi?
[11:42] <chromate> ivoks:  there is a /proc/scsi, but no /dev/scsi
[11:42] <nalioth> howdy
[11:42] <Seveas> Arkainium, hmm, run fsck on these disks...
[11:42] <ivoks> delire: /dev/ub*?
[11:42] <ivoks> chromate: lsmod | grep scsi
[11:42] <nalioth> been quite an interesting day
[11:42] <Big_O> tried it already Seveas its not working
[11:42] <JDigital`> Can anyone recommend a decent ssh client?
[11:43] <kbrooks> Seveas, then i chose to (out of my noobness) reboot and use single, then do these 2 commands i mentioned above
[11:43] <JDigital`> ssh doesn't work on my machine
[11:43] <ivoks> chromate: doh, you have scsi module... :(
[11:43] <chromate> ivoks: in fact there's a file called /proc/scsi/usb-storage/4 that has the information of my drive
[11:43] <ivoks> chromate: khm...
[11:43] <Arkainium> Seveas, how can I boot up without mounting the disk?
[11:43] <Seveas> Arkainium, live cd :)
[11:43] <chromate> ivoks: yep, scsi_mod is there and its linked to usb_storage, sd_mod, libata, sr_mod,sbp42
[11:43] <delire> ivoks: yes, i for instance, mount usb storage devices to '/dev/uba       /usb            vfat    rw,user,noauto  0       0'
[11:43] <kbrooks> Seveas, i know rebooting is overkill, but .....
[11:43] <delire> nalioth: very interesting day ;)
[11:43] <tiglionabbit> Seveas: it looks like most people with that problem had a problem with their graphics card, or something else
[11:43] <eliUbuntu> Seveas: was using root for something cause the .ICEauthority problem?
[11:43] <tiglionabbit> Seveas: is there an example you can give me?
[11:43] <kbrooks> Seveas, actually, it was 644, not 666
[11:43] <Seveas> kbrooks, how are newbies going to associate not logging in without apparent reason with .ICEauthority..?
[11:44] <Big_O> No mixer elems found << i get this when i try to use alsa mixer
[11:44] <ivoks> chromate: that's hoary?
[11:44] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, not off th top of my head
[11:44] <Arkainium> Seveas, grr.  :P  I searched google and it seems that most people who get this problem get a bunch of these errors in their syslog.  I only spotted two.  I *have* been getting some system lock ups lately though.  So the only *real* way to diagnose is by checking the filesystem?
[11:44] <chromate> ivoks: yup
[11:44] <nalioth> eliUbuntu: the .ICEauthority thing is a known cross architextural problem, i dont think root has anything to do with it
[11:44] <tiglionabbit> Seveas: well you said there's lots, so you should be able to find one pretty easily, right?
[11:44] <Seveas> eliUbuntu, it's a believable cause...
[11:44] <chromate> ivoks: like i was saying it used to work before... though for some reason only once, then i'd have to reboot... but now it just doesn't work at all
[11:44] <Seveas> Arkainium, that and smartmontools
[11:45] <Seveas> check your disk with both
[11:45] <ivoks> chromate: sudo apt-get --reinstall install udev
[11:45] <Arkainium> Seveas, ok.. thanks for the help.  one more thing though, should I run fsck with any special options?
[11:45] <ivoks> chromate: and try with other flash drives
[11:45] <kbrooks> Seveas, I inadvertenly did chmod 644 in ~ on Debian before, and I could not log on to whatever DE I was using, so I ended up having to chmod and chown
[11:45] <tiglionabbit> Seveas: it would be nice if you could tell me a concrete reason why sudo nautilus would cause this
[11:45] <Seveas> Arkainium, not neccessarily
[11:45] <chromate> ivoks: i get the same behavior from my hard drive and my ipod
[11:45] <delire> chromate: are you sure that's the full output after insertion of the usb key?
[11:45] <Arkainium> Seveas, ok.  thank you
[11:45] <chromate> ivoks: should i stop hotplug or anything before reinstalling udev?
[11:45] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, have you been reading at all..?
[11:45] <ivoks> chromate: sudo apt-get --reinstall install udev - this could solve it
[11:45] <chromate> delire: yes
[11:46] <ivoks> chromate: no, just run this
[11:46] <kbrooks> tiglionabbit, because nautilus is a X client
[11:46] <Seveas> nautilus can chmod .ICEauthority and .Xauth
[11:46] <Seveas> and then gnome won't read them
[11:46] <Seveas> and then login hangs
[11:46] <kbrooks> and because it chmods .ICEauthority and .Xauthority
[11:46] <ivoks> ptlo: hi
[11:46] <tiglionabbit> Seveas: why would nautilus do that?
[11:46] <kbrooks> to 644
[11:46] <tiglionabbit> and when
[11:46] <chromate> ivoks: how about after
[11:46] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, because the programmers tell it to
[11:46] <Seveas> get some clue...
[11:46] <ivoks> chromate: reinsert your flash
[11:47] <tiglionabbit> Seveas: no, I mean when and why does it?
[11:47] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, when it is running...
[11:47] <kbrooks> tiglionabbit, #gnome and figure out why
[11:47] <ptlo> oo ivox heya :)
[11:47] <chromate> ivoks: no luck :-/
[11:47] <Seveas> nautilus is not designed to be run as root, so won't be extra cerful with these files...
[11:47] <Seveas> careful*
[11:47] <chromate> it says it mounts at /dev/scsi/host5/bus0/target0/lun0: but that directory does not even exist!
[11:48] <kbrooks> uh
[11:48] <ivoks> chromate: so, same behavoiur with every usb device?
[11:48] <chromate> ivoks: yes
[11:48] <bojangles> well is this damn thing going to work
[11:48] <Seveas> s/as root/with sudo/
[11:48] <ivoks> broken scsi modules?
[11:48] <bojangles> this breezy sure has a lot of problems...but it is getting there
[11:48] <chromate> should i reload them?
[11:48] <ptlo> ivoks, i got a apt-fu question: is there an easy way to see all the dependancies for a package (recursively listing all the packages that one depends upon)?
[11:48] <ivoks> chromate: sure
[11:48] <bojangles> but will it hold up
[11:49] <delire> ptlo: apt-cache show <package>
[11:49] <Arkainium> Seveas, to run smartmontools I need to enable S.M.A.R.T. support in my BIOS?
[11:49] <delire> ptlo: i like pbdv however
[11:49] <ivoks> ptlo: apt-cache rdepends <package>
[11:49] <Seveas> Arkainium, yes
[11:49] <rasputnik>  I'm getting a lot of 'WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[11:49] <sls_> how do you make a kickstart for ubuntu
[11:49] <Xenguy> bddebian: back - I'm trying to install a Citrix client, and I think it may want a package called 'libmotif3'.  When I tried apt-file, dpkg -l, apt-cache search, etc., sometimes the package would appear, but sometimes not.  It doesn't seem to be available for install (in Hoary).  What I'm really looking for is 'Openmotif' (Citrix wants it).  Any clues?
[11:49] <sls_> ??
[11:49] <ivoks> ptlo: sorry, depends
[11:49] <tiglionabbit> oo neat
[11:50] <rasputnik> from apt - using what I think is backports?
[11:50] <ivoks> ptlo: rdepends is to show packages depending on it
[11:50] <Seveas> ptlo, apt-cache depends --recurse $packagename
[11:50] <kbrooks> Seveas, huh.....
[11:50] <delire> Seveas: yes that's better.
[11:50] <foolioio> so, i'm not sure i understand how to install firefox 1.0.4 on Hoary
[11:50] <kbrooks> recursion?
[11:50] <kbrooks> :|
[11:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY>  sudo cp -Rfv Desktop/STORAGE /storage/shane/STORAGE
[11:50] <tiglionabbit> foolioio: you already have it
[11:50] <chromate> ivoks: no work
[11:50] <ivoks> foolioio: it allready is 1.0.4
[11:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> why does this command crap out on me
[11:50] <kbrooks> foolioio, 1.0.4 already
[11:51] <tiglionabbit> foolioio: I told you a while ago how to change the about:config vendorsub line to 1.0.4
[11:51] <foolioio> ivoks: cool, but it says 1.0.2
[11:51] <nalioth> Seveas: you need to enable S.M.A.R.T in the bios to check a 'smart' hard drive?
[11:51] <kbrooks> ChurcH_of_FoamY, error message
[11:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there a way to make the computer copy the data no matter what errors
[11:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> are incounterd
[11:51] <tiglionabbit> foolioio: it has all features backported
[11:51] <Seveas> nalioth, I thought so...
[11:51] <bojangles> there sure is not much to work with at this time....even x is somewhat broken....and no gtkam or anything....but some basics have been better thought out
[11:51] <ptlo> ivoks, delire, seveas: thanks!
[11:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> cp: cannot create regular file `/storage/shane/STORAGE/STORAGE/ZoneAlarm_Pro_v5.5.062.zip': Read-only file system
[11:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it starts off normal then says that
[11:51] <ivoks> foolioio: diff beetwean 1.0.2 and 1.0.4 are security fixes, wich ubuntu's firefox 1.0.2 allready has
[11:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> after like 10 minutes
[11:51] <kbrooks> ChurcH_of_FoamY, no, no way
[11:51] <ivoks> chromate: :/
[11:51] <nalioth> Seveas: thought it read straight from the ide/sata/scsi bus
[11:51] <Seveas> hmm
[11:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> what?
[11:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kbrooks?
[11:52] <foolioio> tiglionabbit: ok, but why not call it 1.0.4 from the getgo?
[11:52] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: is the disk full?
[11:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no
[11:52] <tiglionabbit> foolioio: cuz it's backported.  Don't ask me
[11:52] <chromate> ivoks: i'll try upgrading to the latest official kernel. a side note, any idea why gaim is held back to 1.1.4?
[11:52] <othernoob> foolioio because ubuntu is gay like that.
[11:52] <kbrooks> ChurcH_of_FoamY, you cant force cp to copy no matter what
[11:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> shit
[11:52] <ivoks> chromate: held?
[11:52] <delire> ptlo: np if you want recursion the yes, apt-cache depends --recurse. just straight depends, apt-cache show is ok.
[11:52] <bojangles> anyway it is about time that gentoo and ubuntu kicked debians ass into the ground.
[11:52] <foolioio> tiglionabbit othernoob: fair enough
[11:53] <chromate> ivoks: the most recent version in the repositories is 1.1.4
[11:53] <ivoks> chromate: ubuntu comes out every 6 months
[11:53] <bddebian> Xenguy: The only thing I see is libmotif :-(
[11:53] <kbrooks> ChurcH_of_FoamY, add it, and bang, errors would occur over the place
[11:53] <foolioio>  tiglionabbit othernoob: i saw that breezy has a 1.0.4, is there a way to sync up with that one?
[11:53] <ivoks> chromate: when it's released, no new programs go in
[11:53] <tiglionabbit> foolioio: it wouldn't really be a problem if mozilla didn't decide you need the newest version in order to get their addons
[11:53] <ivoks> chromate: only bugfixes
[11:53] <Xenguy> bddebian: any idea if it provides 'openmotif' ?
[11:53] <chromate> ivoks: ah.
[11:53] <tiglionabbit> foolioio: there is like, no difference.  Don't worry about it
[11:53] <kbrooks> chromate, hoary is walled offf to new programs
[11:53] <bojangles> foolioio, there is not much to work with at this time...but the basics are available
[11:53] <bojangles> foolioio, and much better thought out
[11:54] <kbrooks> foolioio, do not upgrade to breezy
[11:54] <chromate> ivoks, delire: well thank you guys for your help, i'm gonna try rebooting.
[11:54] <ivoks> chromate: if you want, you could create me acc on yout comp to do a fast check
[11:54] <foolioio> kbrooks: okay, i'll try the about:config hack
[11:54] <foolioio> thanks for clarifying
[11:54] <chromate> ivoks: if the reboot doesn't work i'll be back
[11:54] <ivoks> ok
[11:54] <bojangles> foolioio, now we just have to port these basics over to the hurd...and be finished with a free os.
[11:54] <chromate> thx
[11:54] <kbrooks> foolioio, try it, but .... ;)
[11:55] <tiglionabbit> !firefox
[11:55] <ubotu> [firefox]  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10681#c3
[11:55] <dszabo> need help with .deb package
[11:55] <dszabo> to install i need super user privelages
[11:55] <chrissturm> what do i need to change in /etc/sudoers to not have to enter the password for a command?
[11:55] <kbrooks> dszabo, ask
[11:55] <tiglionabbit> dszabo: you want to "dpkg --install something.deb" ?
[11:55] <tiglionabbit> dszabo: use sudo
[11:55] <tiglionabbit> !sudo
[11:55] <ubotu> it has been said that sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:55] <Seveas> dszabo, sudo dpkg --install dilename.deb
[11:56] <bddebian> Xenguy: Dunno, not much info on it
[11:56] <dszabo> i'm a newb at ubuntu, been using MEPIS :-)
[11:56] <dszabo> thanks for the help
[11:56] <ivoks> bddebian: :)
[11:56] <nalioth> chrissturm: in /etc/sudoers, nothing
[11:57] <Xenguy> bddebian: thanks, I'll wing it then.  If I get citrix going, I'll add to the FAQ on the wiki (don't have a lot of time at work, but have been trying for a few days now, and no joy)
[11:58] <SysFail> whats with this firefox cant do addons thing?
[11:58] <chrissturm> nalioth, but?
[11:58] <freddy_> addons?
[11:58] <tiglionabbit> !firefox
[11:58] <ubotu> [firefox]  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10681#c3
[11:58] <bddebian> Xenguy: According to the packages website it provides OpenMotif development files
[11:58] <ateves> hi! i have a windows partition on /dev/hda1 and i can mount it without any problems. but when i try to mount the second windows partion on /dev/hda2, my system freezes
[11:59] <SysFail> yeah I read that... comment 3 makes no sense
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> SysFail: you must change the vendorsub line to 1.0.4.  Type about:config in your address bar
[11:59] <SysFail> ok
[11:59] <ernstp> not much activity on the bugday?
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> bugday?
[11:59] <Xenguy> bddebian: tx for the tip.  Seems libmotif is replaced by lesstif2 in Hoary, which I already have installed, so we'll see.
[11:59] <bddebian> ateves: It can only handle so much non-free partitions at a time.. ;-)
[11:59] <Seveas> ernstp, #ubuntu-devel