[02:36] <jujimufu> PhinnFort: so if I quit beryl ,it should play better?
[02:36] <jujimufu> ok, wait.
[02:37] <nimble> or just select kwin
[02:37] <PhinnFort> kwin is good
[02:38] <nimble> or creating a new session on kwin or something works as well i think
[02:39] <psyco-obiwan> BluesKaj: for the record, it seems the problem exists only with newer 2.6. kernels and mostly on notebooks. It can be worked around by either irqpoll or acpi=off noapic pci=bios
[02:40] <jujimufu> PhinnFort: it run as low as 5 fps...
[02:40] <PhinnFort> jujimufu: did you disable beryl?
[02:40] <PhinnFort> jujimufu: hit alt+f2, type in "kwin --replace" and hit enter
[02:40] <jujimufu> PhinnFort: I did disable beryl, and I also closed beryl manager.
[02:41] <PhinnFort> jujimufu: then there's a problem with the game you're playing, I think
[02:41] <PhinnFort> jujimufu: are you using wine?
[02:41] <jujimufu> no, I have downloaded the source from the site.
[02:42] <BluesKaj> bbl
[02:42] <PhinnFort> jujimufu: I'm not really sure how stuff is packed, but it could be linked against the wrong libraries, and use software rendering
[02:42] <PhinnFort> !find cube
[02:42] <ubotu> Found: kjumpingcube, kwin-style-alphacube, roundcube-webmail, wmcube
[02:42] <jujimufu> PhinnFort: I didn't say "repos" I said "source code"... :|
[02:43] <PhinnFort> i know
[02:43] <PhinnFort> that's why I wanted to know if there was a package available
[02:43] <jujimufu> PhinnFort: I had searched for a package before. I do prefer installing debs from repos than installing things from sources.
[02:44] <PhinnFort> jujimufu: can you select different renderers in-game?
[02:44] <marko> how can i install driver for nvidia fx 5200
[02:45] <PhinnFort> !nvidia | marko
[02:45] <ubotu> marko: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:47] <icecruncher> what's the lame mp3 plugin for k3b called
[02:47] <icecruncher> ?
[02:48] <PhinnFort> !k3b
[02:48] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[02:48] <PhinnFort> !find k3b
[02:48] <ubotu> Found: k3b, k3b-i18n, libk3b-dev, libk3b2, libk3b2-mp3
[02:48] <PhinnFort> !info libk3b2-mp3
[02:48] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 39 kB, installed size 104 kB
[02:48] <PhinnFort> capisce?
[02:49] <icecruncher> k
[02:49] <icecruncher> tnks
[02:49] <PhinnFort> yw
[02:50] <jujimufu> PhinnFort: I don't think I can select different renderers in-game...
[02:51] <PhinnFort> jujimufu: I'm sorry I can't help you...
[02:51] <jujimufu> baah
[02:51] <PhinnFort> jujimufu: have you tried other opengl games?
[02:51] <PhinnFort> briqoulo, et al?
[02:51] <jujimufu> PhinnFort: well, cube, the previous game from that one, which uses the same game engine, though. It also plays at about 20
[02:52] <PhinnFort> jujimufu: did you get it from the repos?
[02:53] <jujimufu> PhinnFort: Cube 1, yes. But not the official, it was from another repo, but it was a .deb file.
[02:53] <jujimufu> PhinnFort: do you know any opengl games from the repos?
[02:53] <PhinnFort> well, it could be for debian, wrong gl versions and whatever bugs may spring from it;)
[02:53] <PhinnFort> !info briqoulo
[02:53] <ubotu> Package briqoulo does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:53] <PhinnFort> !info briquolo
[02:53] <ubotu> briquolo: Fast paced 3d Breakout. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 229 kB, installed size 780 kB
[02:53] <PhinnFort> :D
[02:54] <PhinnFort> !info nexuiz
[02:54] <ubotu> nexuiz: A fast-paced 3D Ego-Shooter. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.3-1 (feisty), package size 593 kB, installed size 1488 kB
[02:54] <jujimufu> 'll try nexuiz, wait
[02:54] <icecruncher> anybody know a good java ide
[02:54] <icecruncher> ?
[02:54] <jujimufu> woah! it needs 140 megs to be downloaded!
[02:55] <Jucato> icecruncher: netbeans? eclipse? (not really sure, just heard about them)
[02:55] <umberto_> salve
[02:55] <PhinnFort> !info scorched3d | jujimufu
[02:55] <ubotu> jujimufu: scorched3d: 3D artillery game similar to Scorched Earth. In component universe, is optional. Version 40.1d.dfsg-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1139 kB, installed size 2972 kB
[02:55] <umberto_> qualche ita?
[02:55] <PhinnFort> !it | umberto_
[02:55] <ubotu> umberto_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:56] <umberto_> sorry
[02:56] <PhinnFort> np
[02:56] <PhinnFort> jujimufu: i'll go and eat now
[03:00] <psyco-obiwan> hah, a bios update did wonders too...
[03:10] <NSCAD_Nathan> Hi.  Anyone know how I can have digikam just search the photos directory of my Creative Zen Vision:M and not 50GB worth of MP3s?
[03:23] <jujimufu> !find 3D
[03:23] <ubotu> Found: dovecot-pop3d, xaw3dg, xaw3dg-dev, 3dchess, 3ddesktop (and 45 others)
[03:23] <jujimufu> !3dchess
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3dchess - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <jujimufu> !chess
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chess - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <jujimufu> !3D chess
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d chess - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <jujimufu> bah
[03:23] <jujimufu> !find game 3D
[03:23] <ubotu> Found: gnome-games, gnome-games-data, kdegames, kdegames-card-data, kdegames-dbg (and 33 others)
[03:24] <pag> jujimufu, trying to get info about 3dchess?
[03:25] <pag> !info 3dchess
[03:25] <ubotu> 3dchess: 3D chess for X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-12 (feisty), package size 31 kB, installed size 132 kB
[03:27] <jujimufu> pag: lol.. thanks :P
[03:27] <pag> np :)
[03:28] <BluesKaj> pag, whynot just play online chess ?
[03:29] <BluesKaj> oops I mean jujimufu
[03:39] <pjesi> it is a shame that the "easy restricted extras" feature is only for ubuntu
[03:45] <polopolo> Hello all
[03:48] <polopolo> When I install ubuntu on kubuntu, And a new release is released, and I upgrade on kubuntu, should kubuntu also upgrade ubuntu to the new version?
[03:50] <phal__> hi, i have installed the kde package on a plain feisty fawn setup
[03:50] <phal__> now i can't find where i can change resolution and refresh rate settings
[03:50] <pjesi> since kubuntu does not ship with any convinient way to install restricted packages, do I have to follow the 6.10 instructions?
[03:50] <phal__> can anyone help
[03:50] <pjesi> phal__: system settings -> monitor & display
[03:50] <Jucato> pjesi: yes, the 6.10 instructions work the same way
[03:51] <pjesi> Jucato: how come kubuntu does not have the same feature as ubuntu?
[03:51] <phal__> pjesi: sorry but there is no menu like that
[03:51] <Jucato> polopolo: it all depends whether there are upgrades available for ubuntu as well. but usually, yes
[03:51] <Jucato> phal__: how did you install KDE on Ubuntu again?
[03:51] <Jucato> pjesi: because the ones who made the restricted-manager app only made it for Ubuntu
[03:52] <phal__> i installed ubuntu feisty fawn first, then downloaded the kde package from synaptic
[03:52] <Jucato> and made it in a way to be dependent on GNOME apps
[03:52] <polopolo> ok
[03:52] <Jucato> phal__: which package specifically?
[03:52] <pjesi> that is a shame
[03:52] <Jucato> pjesi: fortunately, unlike ubuntu, when it comes to codecs, Kubuntu actually only needs 2 codecs
[03:53] <phal__> it says kde 5:47 in synaptic
[03:53] <phal__> but it's 3.56 as seen in control center
[03:53] <Jucato> and Kubuntu 7.10 has automated scripts to install the mp3 codec when you play an MP3 in Amarok and Flash in Konqueror
[03:53] <phal__> 3.5.6*
[03:53] <pjesi> Jucato: could you tell which two you are talking about?
[03:53] <Jucato> phal__: hm?
[03:54] <Jucato> pjesi: libxine-extracodecs (in the repositories) and w32codecs (separate source)
[03:54] <Jucato> phal__: anyway, what package did you install? just "kde" or "kubuntu-desktop"?
[03:54] <phal__> kde 5:47(feisty) package
[03:54] <phal__> just kde
[03:55] <phal__> was it wrong?
[03:55] <Jucato> well not really. I suspect you're just reading it wrong
[03:55] <Jucato> anyway. install the package "kde-guidance"
[03:55] <phal__> i found kubuntu-desktop now in synaptic and it's not installed
[03:55] <phal__> im using kde now btw
[03:55] <Jucato> phal__: then go to K Menu -> Control Center (presuming that System Settings wasn't installed) -> Peripherals -> Display
[03:56] <phal__> there is no "Display"
[03:56] <Jucato> phal__:  <Jucato> anyway. install the package "kde-guidance"
[03:56] <Jucato> you have to install that first
[03:56] <phal__> ok im looking into that
[03:57] <phal__> will i have to install kubuntu-desktop too?
[03:57] <Jucato> phal__: well, not necessarily. it really depends
[03:58] <phal__> ok
[03:58] <Jucato> the package "kde" will install *all* the software that KDE ships with.
[03:58] <Jucato> kubuntu-desktop will only install the select apps and settings (including themes) that Kubuntu installs by default
[03:58] <phal__> should i have installed kubuntu-desktop at first?
[03:59] <Jucato> phal__: yep. kde comes with a load of things you probably won't need
[03:59] <Jucato> and doesn't install some of the things you might want (amarok, k3b, etc)
[04:00] <phal__> i thought about that too, it came with tons of games or stuff like that
[04:00] <phal__> it was about 200 MBs
[04:03] <Cosmoboy> Peloup!
[04:04] <PhinnFort> !resolution
[04:04] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:07] <phal__> hey, i noticed a "Screen resize and rotate" tool on system tray and i can now change resolution&refresh rate with it :D
[04:07] <phal__> but i don't now how it appeared it werent there before
[04:07] <PhinnFort> phal__: you can run it by running "krandrtray"
[04:07] <PhinnFort> !info krandrtray
[04:08] <ubotu> Package krandrtray does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:08] <glugbomros> !krandtray
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krandtray - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <phal__> ok then thank you all
[04:08] <Jucato> it's part of kdebase. not a separate package
[04:08] <PhinnFort> ah, ok
[04:09] <PhinnFort> is it possible to nice apt/dpkg/friends by default?
[04:10] <PhinnFort> on gentoo there was an option in the config file for emerge to make it nice whenever it was run
[04:10] <Jucato> what's "make nice"?
[04:10] <PhinnFort> Jucato: run with another nice value
[04:10] <PhinnFort> *make it run nice
[04:10] <PhinnFort> d
[04:11] <PhinnFort> priority
[04:11] <PhinnFort> nice (1)             - run a program with modified scheduling priority
[04:11] <Jucato> ah...
[04:11] <PhinnFort> ;)
[04:11] <PhinnFort> :P
[04:13] <pedro> Hi everyone!
[04:13] <PhinnFort> !hi | pedro
[04:13] <ubotu> pedro: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:13] <pedro> How are you?
[04:14] <korobase> Hi,all.
[04:14] <pedro> I am using Kubuntu feisty and I have a doubt
[04:14] <pedro> about an error message with k3b
[04:14] <pedro> http://www.mypastebin.com/?code=1662288954
[04:14] <korobase> Any one find the knetworkmanager's problems?
[04:14] <pedro> this is it
[04:14] <pedro> anyone knows how to solve it?
[04:15] <korobase> It can't connect to network when you change the net from one to another automatically.
[04:17] <PhinnFort> should I enable DBE (double buffering) in my X-server?
[04:21] <ubuntu> .
[04:21] <AmyRose> Is there a (working) gtkrc setting to change the icon theme for GTK apps?
[04:24] <Jucato> you'd have to ask in *gasp* #ubuntu or *gasps harder* #gnome :/
[04:26] <dr_willis> Jucato,  :)  if you dont know the answer! ..... heh heh...
[04:26] <Jucato> wasn't that implied :)
[04:26] <phal__> hey i just set my resolution to 1024x768 but after restarting it's 640x480 now and i cant change it higher
[04:27] <phal__> what could have gone wrong?
[04:27] <_pedro> I don't know if anyone has seen my question
[04:27] <_pedro> I have an error message from k3b
[04:28] <Jucato> _pedro: I could read the whole error message from your pastebin
[04:28] <_pedro> http://www.mypastebin.com/?code=1662288954
[04:28] <_pedro> that's it
[04:28] <K_user> phal__ logout then reset xserver - then login again
[04:28] <phal__> resetting it?
[04:28] <Jucato> phal__: maybe krandrtray doesn't save settings in between session
[04:28] <Jucato> sessions*
[04:29] <K_user> left of where you enter username/password - click there
[04:29] <K_user> select reset xserver
[04:29] <phal__> Jucato: i cant change it higher then 640x480 either
[04:29] <K_user> maybe u can reste with out logout - i don't know how
[04:30] <phal__> K_user: ok trying
[04:30] <Jucato> phal__: it's an X server setting then. you will have to modify it
[04:30] <Jucato> !xconfig | phal__
[04:30] <ubotu> phal__: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[04:30] <phal__> !fixres
[04:30] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:31] <AmyRose> Jucato: But GNOME uses gconf, not .gtkrc
[04:31] <K_user> ubotu - i have notice if i boot with out touching keyboard i get same problem - do u know of this prob?
[04:31] <AmyRose> K_user: ubotu is a robot
[04:31] <AmyRose> !bot
[04:31] <phal__> :D
[04:31] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:31] <Jucato> AmyRose: ah yeah.. right... thought that was what you meant :)
[04:32] <K_user> AmyRose : that's ok - can the robot answer the question
[04:34] <AmyRose> K_user: If you want to see if ubotu has an answer, you can try searching here: http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <phal__> i can't find where can i reset xserver
[04:35] <phal__> there is no option for it in the login screen
[04:35] <AmyRose> phal__: I just do sudo service kdm restart
[04:35] <Jucato> phal__: there should be. in the Login menu
[04:35] <AmyRose> oh, I also installed the debian-helper-scripts
[04:35] <Jucato> I bet he's still using GDM for the login manager
[04:36] <AmyRose> phal__: Then try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:36] <phal__> it's the same login manager as with gnome
[04:36] <AmyRose> phal__: Then try my suggestion
[04:36] <phal__> ok
[04:36] <Kr4t05> Hrm... That's odd...
[04:37] <Kr4t05> I burned a movie to DVD, and when I watch it in Kaffiene, the total length is shown as about 30 minutes.
[04:37] <Kr4t05> How does a 120minute feature suddenly get shrunk down, without losing anything of the movie footage?
[04:41] <Kr4t05> Oh, that's why... one "second" in kaffiene is about 5 seconds in reality. :)
[04:41] <Ze_M> i have installed kubuntu feisty and doesnt have any app to configure keyboard, cant have portuguese layout, also dont see how is possible to enable 3D with beryl, konqueror is all f*cked up, unbleievable
[04:41] <Jucato> Ze_M: you have checked System Settings I presume?
[04:41] <Ze_M> Jucato: of course
[04:42] <Jucato> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout?
[04:42] <Ze_M> i have checked all desktop configurations
[04:42] <Ze_M> Jucato: but should exit an app that should set this by default like happens in other distros
[04:42] <Jucato> for Beryl, you have to install and configure it manually
[04:42] <Jucato> hm?
[04:42] <Ze_M> Jucato: lol
[04:43] <Ze_M> Jucato: in mandriva we have mandriva drak tools to configure all
[04:43] <Jucato> about Konqueror, you have to be more specific
[04:43] <Ze_M> konqueror toolbars are all f*cked
[04:43] <Jucato> of course this isn't mandriva... but I get your point
[04:43] <Jucato> again, can you please be more specific? "f*cked up" doesn't qualify
[04:43] <phal__> nothing changed, it froze at "running local boot scripts" and i had to reboot
[04:44] <Kr4t05> Jucato: I think he was responding to me. :P
[04:44] <Ze_M> Jucato: really dont get how is possible that exist guys that ubuntu is that so good, for what i see mandriva beats kubuntu by points
[04:44] <Jucato> Kr4t05: your customer then
[04:44] <Jucato> :)
[04:44] <Kr4t05> Jucato: It looks like a rhetorical statement. :P
[04:44] <Kr4t05> Ze_M: Right?
[04:45] <Ze_M> well im gg back to mandriva, kubuntu really disapoints
[04:45] <Jucato> Ze_M: unless you be more specific at what problem you're having. I don't understand you at all. You're looking for something like MCC? That's System Settings
[04:45] <Kr4t05> Uh... You're call.
[04:45] <pjesi> man I regret moving from 6.10
[04:45] <Guest88856> THIS IS BLASPHEMY!
[04:45] <Guest88856> THIS IS MADNESS!
[04:45] <Guest88856> THIS
[04:45] <Guest88856> IS
[04:46] <Kr4t05> Sparta?
[04:46] <Ze_M> Kr4t05: of course, but since there was so many people saying that kubuntu was from another worls, that was so good, now that i runned it i see that is just a simple distro that is beat by the well know distros mandriva, suse, fedora, etc
[04:46] <Kr4t05> Sorry... I had to.
[04:47] <Kr4t05> Ze_M: When I say that Kubuntu is "good" I mean that it's better than Windows... I would never try to compare it to another distro, being that I've never used another distro.
[04:47] <Jucato> Ze_M: 1) don't always believe what other people say. 2) You shouldn't eat an apple expecting it to taste like an orange
[04:47] <Ze_M> Jucato: im talking about what other people say about kubuntu comparing to other linux distros
[04:47] <boggystudios> how do I add a program to /etc/init.d so I can use update-rc ?
[04:48] <Kr4t05> That, and Ubuntu is somewhat more mature than Kubuntu. I just prefer the feel of KDE.
[04:48] <Ze_M> Jucato: i really thought that kubuntu could be better than mandirva that is the distro i have been using but is totally the oposite
[04:48] <Jucato> Ze_M: yes. I know. that's why I said don't always believe in other people's opinions until you've really tried it
[04:48] <Ze_M> im trully disapointed...
[04:48] <Kr4t05> Ze_M: Well, if you're not happy with Kubuntu, by all means, try something else... It's not like we'll twist your arm into using something you don't like.
[04:49] <Ze_M> Kr4t05: yes of course, im just putting my thoughts
[04:49] <Dekkard> is there any difference between kubuntu and just installing ubuntu and adding kde-desktop?
[04:49] <USMarine> if only ubuntu wan't gnome..
[04:49] <USMarine> wasnt*
[04:49] <USMarine> Dekkard yeah
[04:49] <Jucato> Ze_M: no one is forcing you to use Kubuntu. And I'm not going to say Kubuntu is perfect. but if you actually had a question we could help you with, rather than just ranting
[04:49] <Ze_M> Kr4t05: i was expecting that kubuntu would have many things that we expect for granted
[04:49] <USMarine> useless gnome packages
[04:50] <Kr4t05> Really, because it's starting to look like blatant trolling... No offence ment, but I'm merely calling it as I see it.
[04:50] <Jucato> Dekkard: you don't get any of the Ubuntu/GNOME stuff installed
[04:50] <Dekkard> k
[04:50] <Ze_M> Kr4t05: my apologies if is appearing that
[04:50] <Dekkard> i dont mind gnome
[04:50] <daphbobo> how do i make an alias in konversation?
[04:51] <daphbobo> ok nm
[04:51] <daphbobo> found it
[04:51] <Jucato> :)
[04:51] <USMarine> gnome is too simple
[04:51] <Dekkard> what i notice a lot here is that the questions arent usually os realted.. they have to do with other software.. like cd rippers.. an stuff
[04:51] <Kr4t05> Ze_M: You have to keep in mind that the developers have only added what the users have asked for. What exactly do you find so lacking in Kubuntu?
[04:51] <USMarine> it doesn't do the basic stuff i need
[04:51] <Ze_M> Kr4t05: i really got frustrated, just that, but this because i hear so many people saying good about kubuntu, but now that i runned it i dont get how that people said that, of just if they would never tried other distros and are new to linux
[04:51] <pjesi> does anyone know why the fonts look like crap in 7.04 while they were fine in 6.10?
[04:51] <Jucato> Dekkard: they are. Ubuntu and Kubuntu use different apps, different settings, etc
[04:51] <Dekkard> simple is good.. thats why i also run fluxbox
[04:51] <USMarine> lol
[04:52] <USMarine> that's not a DE
[04:52] <Dekkard> and?
[04:52] <Ze_M> Kr4t05: severall things, but you coould have a better view if you install mandriva
[04:52] <Ze_M> but for example by default mandirva sets the correct layout
[04:52] <Dekkard> i dont always need a de
[04:52] <Kr4t05> Ze_M: I'll see about it.
[04:52] <USMarine> so it wont help much in productivity
[04:52] <USMarine> i do
[04:52] <Jucato> !offtopic
[04:52] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:52] <phal__> hey Jucato, i still cant change my res. higher
[04:52] <Dekkard>  i mean mc is still plenty good as a file manager.. you cna play music without a gui..
[04:52] <Ze_M> Kr4t05: other thing that was nasty was the kon toolbars
[04:52] <Jucato> phal__: did you run the command that the bot gave out?
[04:52] <Ze_M> konqueror{
[04:53] <Ze_M> konqueror*
[04:53] <phal__> the config thing?
[04:53] <Dekkard> getting tense in here..
[04:53] <USMarine> if i have resources
[04:53] <USMarine> i want linux to use them
[04:53] <phal__> what was it
[04:53] <phal__> !xconfig
[04:53] <Kr4t05> Ze_M: You can install Firefox quite quickly, ;)
[04:53] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[04:53] <USMarine> and make everything neat and a appealing
[04:53] <Jucato> Ze_M: you still haven't explained what your problem with Konqueror is. so far you have done nothing but say "Kubuntu sucks. mandriva rocks." so if you are actually interested in fixing things or finding out what the problem is, please be more specific
[04:54] <Ze_M> Kr4t05: im a kde man, always build and packaged kde
[04:54] <USMarine> Ze_M package kde4alpha1 for me
[04:54] <USMarine> will you?
[04:54] <Ze_M> Jucato: no, i just said i got disapointed
[04:54] <Ze_M> USMarine: i only package for mandriva at least until now
[04:55] <Jucato> USMarine: it's available from kubuntu.org
[04:55] <USMarine> ok
[04:55] <phal__> !fixres
[04:55] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:55] <Ze_M> USMarine: kubuntu doesnt use rpm
[04:55] <Jucato> Ze_M: yes, you've been saying that over and over again. anything new?
[04:55] <ejupin> anyone know how I can "mount" my creative zen so that Amarok will see it?
[04:55] <USMarine> Ze_M i know
[04:55] <USMarine> that's why i prefer kubuntu
[04:55] <Ze_M> so the debian packagement system isnt a thinkg i can easily do
[04:55] <ejupin> I have it working with Gnomad2 but not Amarok
[04:56] <Ze_M> Jucato: i didnt said in the terms your saying, and already asked apologies if appeared so
[04:56] <USMarine> ejupin http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:MTP
[04:56] <ejupin> USMarine:thnx
[04:56] <Ze_M> USMarine: i dont know debian packaging but i will see it to see if there any advantes comparing to rpm
[04:57] <phal__> should i install xorg-driver-fglrx for my ATI R9550 card?
[04:57] <Ze_M> arent there ati paclages_
[04:57] <Jucato> USMarine: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php
[04:57] <Ze_M> packages*
[04:57] <USMarine> Jucato nice, tks
[04:57] <Jucato> USMarine: you might also want to try the openSUSE KDE 4 Alpha Live CD
[04:57] <USMarine> ok
[04:59] <esunder> are there any beryl/kubuntu users here?
[04:59] <pjesi> esunder: I am thinking about becoming one
[04:59] <Jucato> esunder: they'd most probably be in #ubuntu-effects as well
[05:00] <esunder> thank you
[05:01] <pjesi> DeJaVu looks terrible after I upgraded
[05:03] <phal__> what should i use other than GDM?
[05:03] <pjesi> KDM
[05:04] <|ericsson|> How can I get rid of the Adept Notifier that keeps making me annoyed?
[05:04] <phal__> installing it with synaptic should do the trick?
[05:04] <Jucato> |ericsson|: how is it annoying you?
[05:05] <phal__> !ping
[05:05] <ubotu> pong
[05:05] <|ericsson|> Jucato: it keeps conflicting/crashing beryl @ startup
[05:05] <Jucato> hm...
[05:08] <ionus> how to mount ntfs partitions
[05:08] <ionus> !ntfs
[05:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:09] <Kr4t05> !ntfs-3g > me
[05:10] <ionus> !ntfs-3g
[05:10] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:11] <ionus> why i cant run this command gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[05:11] <ionus> why i cant run this command gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[05:11] <ionus> hi tell me ""
[05:11] <SlimeyPete> ionus: is there an error message?
[05:11] <ionus> program 'gksudo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[05:11] <ionus> sudo apt-get install gksu
[05:11] <SlimeyPete> right... so type that.
[05:11] <esunder> whats the best media player for divx/xvix/wmv/mpg etc
[05:11] <SlimeyPete> hang on
[05:12] <ionus> ok
[05:12] <esunder> xvid*
[05:12] <ubuntu> ciao
[05:12] <SlimeyPete> though... there is a KDE version of gksudo, I can't remember what it's called. Yes, you may as well just do the sudo apt-get install gksu thing
[05:12] <ionus> ok wait
[05:12] <|ericsson|> esunder: depends on preference, personally I would go for one with xine engine, like Kaffeine
[05:13] <esunder> how do i make kaffeiene play wmv's tho
[05:13] <|ericsson|> !codecs
[05:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:13] <Jucato> SlimeyPete: kdesu
[05:13] <Jucato> !w32codecs | esunder
[05:13] <ubotu> esunder: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[05:13] <ionus> Package gksudo is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:13] <ionus> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:13] <ionus> is only available from another source
[05:13] <Dr_willis> not all wmv's may be playable.. depends on the codec its using.
[05:13] <SlimeyPete> Jucato: oh yeah... cheers
[05:14] <ionus> slimey!
[05:14] <esunder> hmmm, it doesnt seem to play any files
[05:14] <ionus> what is the problem
[05:14] <SlimeyPete> ionus: ok... your problem is that gksudo and gedit are Gnome applications and as such are notincluded with Kubuntu. Try running "kdesu kedit /etc/fstab"
[05:14] <Dr_willis> depends on the codec and the files.  i tend to avoide wmv's like the plague.. :)
[05:14] <esunder> yea
[05:14] <|ericsson|> esunder: you need codecs in order to play the files, check the links we gave you..
[05:14] <Jucato> ionus: actually "kdesu kate /etc/fstab"
[05:15] <Jucato> SlimeyPete: kedit isn't installed by default
[05:15] <esunder> thanks erricson
[05:15] <ionus> oo yes
[05:15] <ionus> thx
[05:15] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  too hard to find. :)
[05:15] <SlimeyPete> Jucato: hmm yes, I just tried it and found that out ;)
[05:16] <Dr_willis> of course I know how to edit the fstab.. so itd take me longer to find that tool.. then to use vi.
[05:16] <Jucato> Dr_willis: too easy to use :)
[05:16] <Jucato> it's just probably not popular enough :)
[05:16] <Dr_willis> I got this GPx2 - thats using some memory cards.. and oddly enough.. neither windows or linux can read the cards directly.
[05:16] <Jucato> (and then everyone complains why there's isnt' a GUI when it in fact exists...)
[05:17] <Dr_willis> it needs an icon on the desktop!@ thats it!
[05:17] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:17] <Jucato> imho it needs a notifier in the system tray (for USB etc...)
[05:17] <Jucato> :P
[05:17] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. whats the filesystem size limit for fat16 anyway? 2gb?
[05:17] <queiroga> .
[05:18] <llutz> Dr_willis:  2gb
[05:18] <icecruncher> how can i format a fat 32 usb to ext2 and back?
[05:18] <Dr_willis> this handheld seems to be doing somthing odd with this memory card then.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> icecruncher,  whats the point of 'to ext2 and back' ?
[05:18] <Dr_willis> fdisk it. delete parttion. make new ext3 partition, format it.
[05:19] <icecruncher> well, wanna fun fsk on the whole device "sda" not just sda1
[05:19] <Dr_willis> or use that gui tool :) that Jucato  loves.
[05:19] <Dr_willis> fdisk /dev/sda :)
[05:19] <Dr_willis> it must have at least 1 partition to be useable. that would be sda1
[05:19] <icecruncher> doesn't work
[05:19] <icecruncher> yeah, it's fat 32
[05:19] <Dr_willis> its a system level task. thus you need to use sudo, or som eother way to eanble root access.
[05:19] <icecruncher> i am
[05:20] <Jucato> Dr_willis: nah, it's not what I love. but it seems to be what some would need/prefer to use *IF* they knew it existed :D
[05:20] <icecruncher> Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks...
[05:20] <mrcreativity> can somone show me how to autostart an app with kde please?
[05:20] <icecruncher> fsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda
[05:20] <Jucato> !autostart | mrcreativity
[05:20] <ubotu> mrcreativity: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[05:20] <Dr_willis> icecruncher,  you did fdisk and delete/make the new partitins first?
[05:20] <icecruncher> nope
[05:20] <Dr_willis> icecruncher,  you dont just 'reformat fat32 to ext3'
[05:21] <Dr_willis> now if you want to CONVERT a fat32 partition to ext2 thats another story.
[05:21] <Dr_willis> keeping all the data
[05:21] <icecruncher> nah
[05:22] <llutz> icecruncher: fsck on "sda" makes no sense
[05:22] <mrcreativity> how do i run kcontrol-autostart
[05:23] <Dr_willis> llutz,  i was thinking that also.   how would one 'check' a drive to see that its blocks and stuff are valid? befor fdisking it for example.
[05:23] <llutz> icecruncher: the only case i could imagine is a superfloppy-formatted disk without partitions
[05:24] <icecruncher> lol
[05:24] <icecruncher> it's a usb, and i wan to check all the cylinders
[05:24] <llutz> icecruncher: fsck checks filesystems....
[05:24] <icecruncher> k
[05:24] <icecruncher> lol
[05:24] <llutz> icecruncher: you need something like vendor-tools on lowlevel
[05:25] <llutz> to do so
[05:25] <icecruncher> ?
[05:26] <icecruncher> llutz: any programs for liny\ux?
[05:26] <icecruncher> *linux :)
[05:26] <llutz> icecruncher: i don't know any
[05:26] <icecruncher> anyone know any?
[05:27] <llutz> icecruncher:i meant something like this http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/seatools
[05:27] <icecruncher> ahh
[05:29] <phal1> all right, i somehow managed to make it 1024x768 but now i cant change the refresh rate
[05:29] <phal1> it's 60 hz, should be 85
[05:30] <phal1> i had to reconfigure my keyboard layout, i dont know why, the xserver crashed or something
[05:30] <Timsen> howdy
[05:30] <|ericsson|> phal1: Try ddcprobe | grep monitorrange if your monitor supports it
[05:31] <phal1> sudo: ddcprobe: command not found
[05:32] <|ericsson|> you might need apt-get install, first..
[05:33] <phal1> E: Couldn't find package ddcprobe
[05:33] <llutz> phal1:  sudo aptitude install xresprobe
[05:33] <|ericsson|> sudo apt-cache search ddcprobe = xresprobe ;)
[05:34] <phal1> it gives an error
[05:34] <phal1> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[05:35] <|ericsson|> phal1: then you have aptitude open already?
[05:35] <CarinArr> is there any way of getting kopete to tell you why it doesn't want to connect
[05:35] <CarinArr> ?
[05:35] <phal1> no i dont
[05:35] <phal1> but i might have closed xserver conf the half way
[05:35] <phal1> do i have to reset?
[05:36] <|ericsson|> phal1: you can always try: top, check if it's running there and simply do: kill followed by the PID
[05:36] <ubuntu_> ubotu grub
[05:36] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:37] <phal1> may it be Xorg? :D
[05:37] <|ericsson|> or try the command: "shutdown X-server-and-throw-it-to-where-the-sun-doesnt-shine"
[05:37] <neverblue> when doing a new postgresql install, is a new user created, so you can connect to it?
[05:37] <phal1> lol im going to reset then
[05:38] <|ericsson|> phal1: might be your safest bet ;)
[05:39] <jussi01> ok, I have a quick basic question, how do I enable backports in kubuntu... doesnt seem to be in the repositaries part of adept....??
[05:41] <llutz> jussi01: add a line "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse" to your /etc/apt/sources.list (change "de." into something nearby)
[05:42] <jussi01> llutz: cool, I understand that, (and can do it no probs) but I was hoping to see if there was actually a gui part for it...
[05:43] <llutz> jussi01: waiting for a gui-tool, clicking your mouse, etc takes much longer than pasting above into a textfile on console :)
[05:43] <david_> Hi, my Beryl locks after being used approximately 20 minutes. Just the mouse responds. I have a Nvidia card 1Go RAM, amd turion 64 x2 1.6Ghz*2
[05:43] <david_> Do you have any idea why?
[05:44] <jussi01> llutz: yep understood, but I still would like to know if there is a gui for it.... :D
[05:44] <CarinArr> david_: when you say it locks.. does it lock the computer completely?
[05:45] <david_> carinarr :no, just the mouse respond and move at screen
[05:46] <CarinArr> david_: if you switch into a terminal window using ctrl+alt+f2 or something, you can have a look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if there's any messages in there
[05:46] <david_> carinarr: the keyboard doesn't respond
[05:46] <phal__> ok installed xresprobe
[05:47] <phal__> entered ddcprobe, now?
[05:47] <phal__> it made a long output
[05:47] <phal__> i still can't make ref. rate any other then 60 Hz
[05:47] <llutz> phal__: ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[05:48] <llutz> phal__: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange         (sry)
[05:48] <phal__> monitorrange: 30-71, 50-160
[05:49] <phal__> what to do now?
[05:50] <llutz> phal__: take those values and change entries in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (VertRefresh 30-71)
[05:51] <phal__> now restart pc?
[05:51] <llutz> phal__: only X (ctrl-alt-backspace)
[05:52] <phal__> that ctrl-alt-bs has no effect on it
[05:52] <|ericsson|> Has anyone ordered a larg amount of discs from Canonical? I'm talking 500+ dics..
[05:52] <|ericsson|> and by the way, I'm spelling like a gnu 2day
[05:53] <delight> what do i have to do to make kde work with gdm or gnome work with kdm ... since feisty I can't shut down directly if I don't use the "fitting" Desktop-Manager
[05:53] <phal__>   why ctrl-alt-backspace doesnt work?
[05:53] <delight> it worked fine in edgy
[05:54] <pag> |ericsson|, the largest order I've heard about is ubuntu-fi's order of 200cds to share to finnish parlament
[05:54] <dewey> delight, my kde works with gdm in feisty
[05:54] <|ericsson|> pag: we've been discussing of distributing among stundents at our university..
[05:56] <delight> dewey: so u use gdm u log into kde and you can shutdown/poweroff your computer from within the kdedesktop ? (with the shutdown dialog is what i mean of course, sudo poweroff or so)
[05:56] <pag> |ericsson|, I'm not saying that you shouldn't try :) Go ahead and try; it'll be nice, if you succes.
[05:57] <delight> dewey: for me i can only shutdown from within kde when i use kdm ...
[05:57] <dewey> delight, no I shutdown from gdm
[05:57] <phal__> hey llutz
[05:57] <phal__> why that ctrl+alt+backspace doesnt work you have any idea?
[05:57] <delight> dewey: see that is the problem ... it was working before feisty thou .. even with the kde 3.5.6 kubuntu updates
[05:58] <delight> dewey: you can only log out of kde right? no shutdown, suspend etc. etc.
[05:58] <llutz> phal__: err: "VertRefresh  50-160"  is the value, don't know why the key don't work
[05:58] <dewey> delight, yes it was working but thye changed it.
[05:58] <|ericsson|> pag: I think they'll ban me from ship-it if I go for ~5000 discs which is about the amount of stundets we are holding ;)
[05:58] <ubuntu> :o)
[05:59] <delight> dewey: ain't no way to change it back? must be ... by the way i don't think that was a smart choice to do ... i don't see a good point about it
[05:59] <phal__> i couldn't set KDM as default, may that be it?
[05:59] <delight> phal__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[05:59] <llutz> phal__: ctrl-alt-bs i an X-builtin, doesn't depend on KDE/kdm...
[06:00] <phal__> ok i will check that later
[06:01] <delight> dewey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/kdebase/+bug/64695 found a bug report
[06:01] <delight> ;)
[06:07] <|ericsson|> !ntfs
[06:07] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:11] <zoro> hey guys - quick question. what's the quickest way to get kexi with the debug option enabled?
[06:13] <neverblue> ijust installed postgreSQL, is there a 'phpmyadmin'-like app that I can use for psql? if so, why does it not show up in my webserver root? (aka localhost)
[06:14] <zoro> neverblue: it's likely that its not installed by default
[06:14] <neverblue> zoro, but if it is, would it show up in localhost?
[06:14] <neverblue> my /var/www
[06:14] <zoro> neverblue: but i think there is a phppgadmin project
[06:14] <zoro> neverblue: depends on if it was installed there or not :)
[06:15] <neverblue> well, myphpadmin went there on a new install
[06:15] <zoro> sudo aptitude install phppgadmin
[06:15] <zoro> yeah that's normal
[06:15] <zoro> pgadmin is what you need though
[06:15] <neverblue> yeah, was using pgadmin III
[06:16] <zoro> neverblue: well my phpmyadmin was installed to /usr/share/
[06:16] <neverblue> hmm
[06:16] <neverblue> i can see it when I surf to localhost
[06:17] <zoro> yeah
[06:17] <zoro> neverblue: i have a symlink in /var/www that links to /usr/share/phpmyadmin
[06:19] <neverblue> ah
[06:19] <neverblue> i have the same setup, i just need to add the ln
[06:19] <neverblue> nice
[06:20] <zoro> :)
[06:20] <zoro> neverblue: glad i could help
[06:20] <phal__> llutz: i set it to 50-160 but the the resize & rotate tool only has 60 and 87
[06:20] <neverblue> hehe
[06:20] <neverblue> use ln -s?
[06:20] <zoro> neverblue: yeah
[06:20] <neverblue> thought so
[06:20] <zoro> neverblue: sudo -u www-data ln -s /usr/share/phpmyadmdin .
[06:20] <phal__> 87 may put the monitor in sleeping mode
[06:21] <neverblue> yeah, now if I could only understand the ln --help :/
[06:21] <neverblue> the target/dir always throws me off
[06:22] <zoro> ln -s /usr/share/phpmyadmin /var/www/supersite
[06:22] <zoro> neverblue: http://localhost/supersite
[06:22] <neverblue> ?
[06:22] <zoro> ln -s <from> <to>
[06:22] <zoro> :)
[06:22] <neverblue> whats that?
[06:22] <neverblue> supersite?
[06:22] <zoro> an example
[06:22] <neverblue> oh, i c
[06:23] <phal__> how can i make my refresh rate 85?
[06:25] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[06:25] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:42] <_Therock> hmm when i logout of kdm it just black screens, anybody know a quick fix?
[06:44] <zoro> _Therock: happens to me too
[06:45] <zoro> _Therock: i can't shut down because of it
[06:45] <zoro> _Therock: instead of shuttind down from kde, i jump to login window 2 (ctrl+alt+F2) and kill kde from there, then do a halt (sudo shutdown -h 0)
[06:45] <zoro> :)
[06:46] <_Therock> hehe
[06:46] <_Therock> i do that to you know :D
[06:46] <_Therock> but still ....
[06:46] <_Therock> :D
[06:47] <zoro> :D
[06:49] <darktears> hello all
[06:50] <darktears> i have question is anybody knows when kernel 2.6.21 will be ported in feisty
[06:50] <darktears> ?
[06:54] <Tired_> Can I use the installer on an Edgy CD to prepare a hard drive (create partitions and a boot record, etc.), and then copy an entire FEisty install to the newly created partitions, to migrate hard drives?
[06:55] <Udi> I need help with the NV driver
[06:55] <Tired_> I have Feisty already installed, but I need to change hard drives, and I can't find my Feisty cd or any blanks.
[06:55] <phoxy> I need help with the NV driver
[06:55] <Tired_> But I have an Edgy cd.
[06:55] <Tired_> What's up with it?
[06:55] <phoxy> I changed the driver (mistakenly), and now I canot get the correct resolution
[06:56] <phoxy> it is stuck in 640X480
[06:56] <phoxy> It used to do 1600X1200
[06:56] <Tired_> Can you change it in the nVidia settings after you start up?
[06:56] <phoxy> I am using kubuntu
[06:56] <Tired_> Mine boots up at 640x480, but I can switch it back to 1600x1200 after I boot up.
[06:56] <Tired_> Me too.
[06:56] <phoxy> went to the Monitor resoultion
[06:57] <phoxy> in System Settings
[06:57] <phoxy> and it is frozen at 640X640
[06:57] <Tired_> I have to go into the nVidia settings from a program called 'sysinfo', which I got from apt...kind of a kludge, but it works
[06:57] <Tired_> They won't change for me from the Kubuntu settings
[06:57] <neverblue> zoro
[06:57] <zoro> neverblue: ?
[06:57] <neverblue> do you use phppgadmind?
[06:57] <phoxy> ok-- let me try ssyinfo
[06:58] <neverblue> phppgadmin*
[06:58] <zoro> neverblue: nope :)
[06:58] <neverblue> k
[06:58] <Tired_> Once you get it, there's an nVidia at the bottom, and you can get into the nv config from there
[06:58] <Tired_> There's gotta be a better way, but I don't know it
[06:58] <phoxy> thanks-- I am installing sysinfo
[06:58] <Tired_> :)
[06:59] <phoxy> it DID change with the system settings from 1600X1200 to 640 X 480 ...;-(
[07:00] <Tired_> Now that I see you have the same problem...I'm wondering if it's not just me.  I just thought I'd screwed something up
[07:01] <phoxy> sysinfo says that I have a VGA compatible graphics card
[07:01] <phoxy> how do you change anything in sysinfo?
[07:01] <Tired_> Oh.  No nVidia at the bottom?
[07:01] <phoxy> no
[07:01] <Tired_> Hmm.  Are the nv drivers in properly?
[07:01] <phoxy> under Hardware it shows various things-- USB, etc
[07:01] <minty_> hey
[07:01] <phoxy> how would I tell?  They works an hour ago
[07:02] <minty_> guys my amarok is really laggy is there anything better i can use?
[07:02] <CarinArr> !quicktime
[07:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:03] <|lostbyte|> !kde4
[07:03] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[07:03] <phoxy> so now what do I do?
[07:03] <phoxy> I would hate to have to reinstall Kubuntu just because of the stupid driver!
[07:03] <Tired_> Oh no\
[07:04] <Tired_> You should just have to re-do the nvidia drivers
[07:04] <phoxy> how?
[07:04] <Tired_> hang on...i had a good link the other day, let me find it
[07:04] <phoxy> Is there a Konsole command to do it?
[07:04] <phoxy> thanks
[07:04] <phoenixbyrd> anyone else have 3d games crash alot on them?
[07:05] <minty_> wot music player do u use?
[07:05] <KaoticEvil> anyone got a minute to help a failed edgy -> fiesty upgrade? :)
[07:06] <sakabatou> XMMS minty_
[07:07] <Tired_> phoxy -> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-beryl-with-latest-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-feisty-fawn.html
[07:07] <Tired_> This has the Beryl instructions, too
[07:08] <phoxy> I am not using Beryl, but I'll look
[07:08] <_Therock> damn is a pain in the a**
[07:09] <_Therock> i can't logout just get a black screen
[07:09] <Tired_> phoxy: just ignore the beryl stuff and use the instructions there to get the latest drivers
[07:10] <KaoticEvil> anyone got a minute to help a failed edgy -> fiesty upgrade? :)
[07:11] <Trevinho> Hello, anyone here got kde4 knut working?
[07:11] <c14uz> hi
[07:11] <c14uz> :D
[07:11] <c14uz> i need help
[07:11] <c14uz> Ci sono italiani che mi possono dare una mano?
[07:13] <Trevinho> c14uz: per cosa? :)
[07:13] <c14uz> mi serve una mano
[07:13] <c14uz> per kubuntu
[07:13] <c14uz> configurazione scheda di rete
[07:14] <Trevinho> c14uz: vieni in query, qui non si pu parlare in italiano
[07:14] <Trevinho> o senn via in #ubuntu-it
[07:14] <Trevinho> vai*
[07:14] <Trevinho> o #kubuntu-it (esiste? :))
[07:15] <c14uz> 19:12]  [505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[07:15] <c14uz> querami tu plz
[07:15] <Jeroenw> Hi!
[07:15] <anwar> how to sync all entries of one ldap server to another slave ldap server initially , i am trying to setup a replicating ldap server
[07:15] <phoxy> thanks, Tired.  I am doing it
[07:16] <ubuntu> ubotu grub
[07:16] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:16] <c14uz> Trevinho i can't query you....
[07:17] <Trevinho> so, come in #ubuntu-it, I'm there too, with others that can help you
[07:17] <anwar> where can i ask ldap questions , sorry for bugging.
[07:21] <rr_lap> anyone get Apache to use upnp through Felix?
[07:22] <phoxy> sorry, Tired-- it did not fix it
[07:22] <montoya> Riddell: Are you the manteiner of kde4 package???
[07:22] <phoxy> I am still in 640X480, with no option of going back to the nice 1600X1200 that I had a couple of hours ago, before I stupidly changed the driver
[07:23] <phoxy> I need to FORCE kubuntu to use the NV driver it was using originally
[07:23] <phoxy> but I do not know how to do it
[07:24] <Tired_> How did you restart X without leaving channel, phoxy?
[07:25] <phoxy> I am talking to u on an old reliable XP machine
[07:25] <montoya> who is also the manteiner of kde4 package???
[07:25] <phoxy> next to my flaky Kubuntu box
[07:25] <Tired_> Oh.  Hmm
[07:26] <_Therock> phoxy
[07:26] <_Therock> well i used envy to install the dirvers
[07:26] <Tired_> I don't know how, either...when I did the apt stuff from that page, it started using the new driver next reboot
[07:26] <_Therock> worked very well
[07:26] <phoxy> I rebooted twice after doing the apt stuff
[07:27] <Tired_> *shrug* out of my league, then...anyone else?
[07:27] <phoxy> this Nvidia hell is like what I went through with Edgy
[07:27] <_Therock> phoxy, tryed http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html ?
[07:27] <ricmik> Hello! Is there a better mplayer-plugin for firefox than mozilla-mplayer?
[07:27] <phoxy> I used Envy in Edgy, and it was bad news
[07:27] <_Therock> hmm worked fine on my feisty ./
[07:28] <Tired_> So, is there any difference in the disk management tools that came default on the Edgy installer cd than the current ones?
[07:29] <Tired_> eg:  can I make partitions and a boot record with an edgy installer, and then copy an existing feisty install onto the empty partitions?
[07:29] <Tired_> or is grub and stuff different now?
[07:31] <ubuntu> ubotu grub
[07:31] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:32] <slicknick_> so skype has taken total control of my USB headset.  i can hear and use the mic just fine with it, however, when i close skye and try to listen to audio through another application, this does not work. any ideas?
[07:36] <|ericsson|> Is there any antivirus program that works with GUI?
[07:36] <BluesKaj> _Therock, interesting...my experience was the reverse , Envy borke X in feisty but worked great after i reverted to edgy ...but I'm stuck with ATI hardware , so maybe that explains the diff .
[07:39] <rr_lap> anyone get Apache to use upnp through Felix?
[07:39] <ricmik> Is it possible to let KDE autocreate icons on the desktop for newly inserted CD's memory cards etc? (Like Ubuntu)
[07:41] <nimble> kubuntu does it for me
[07:41] <Tired_> seems to be a lot more questions than answers today
[07:41] <phoxy> is that unusual?
[07:41] <Tired_> yeah, usually it's more even
[07:41] <Tired_> people must be busy working or something
[07:42] <phoxy> I am getting closer to reinstalling kubuntu, since I am unanle to restore the driver
[07:42] <phoxy> even though SystemSettings now says I am using the correct (NV) driver, and the choice of the hardware card is correct
[07:43] <Tired_> i dunno...it 'just worked' for me, after I did the apt stuff...i don't know what else to suggest
[07:44] <Alonea> how do I connect to a network with WAP?
[07:45] <ubuntu> ubotu grub
[07:45] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:45] <Alonea> !wap
[07:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:45] <Tired_> what's WAP?
[07:46] <nimble> wireless encryption
[07:46] <marko> which is the best virtual machine server
[07:46] <Tired_> WEP?
[07:46] <Tired_> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25949.html ??
[07:47] <Alonea> WEP is different
[07:48] <ricmik> Probably WPA
[07:48] <Alonea> ooops
[07:48] <Tired_> oh.  i've heard of WEP, and WPA, but not WAP
[07:48] <Alonea> WPA
[07:48] <Tired_> h
[07:48] <Alonea> sorry. ^^;;
[07:48] <Tired_> was confused
[07:48] <Alonea> !wpa
[07:48] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:48] <Tired_> This is why I stick with wires...less acronyms
[07:48] <nimble> yeah i read wrong
[07:49] <Tired_> (that and being too cheap to buy a new router)
[07:49] <ricmik> Tired_: You still have the choice between UTP and STP ;)
[07:49] <tom_> hi anyone getting wierd white flashes in ut2k4 on an intel 950 gma?
[07:49] <Tired_> true.  i try not to think about that.
[07:49] <nimble> i got my wireless router from my dad, its crappy and has no range but i think i might be able to get linux firmware to boost signal strength :D
[07:50] <eric__> does anybody know how to make the font smaller in the console?
[07:50] <Alonea> wait, are you serious?  it only works with some cards?
[07:50] <Alonea> oh wait, ndiswrapper is on list. ok. so that is good
[07:51] <Alonea> nimble: how would you get it to boost signal? Router barely reaches my room
[07:52] <nimble> some routers you can put custom made linux firmware on that give you more control over the hardware
[07:52] <Alonea> ok
[07:52] <chaosite> nimble: mostly WRT54Gs
[07:53] <nimble> and wap54gs, which is what i have :)
[07:53] <Alonea> and there is sliiiight problem...network manager kills gaim/pigdin on my computer as well as KNetwork Manager. I got rid of them because they were buggy
[07:53] <Alonea> Knetwork Manager actually would not connect me to any internet...I just switched to wpa last night
[07:54] <nimble> unfortunately i havent been able to try some custom firmware because i have no clue about networks so i cant get to the wireless configuration page
[07:55] <Alonea> i use Wireless Assistant for my wifi...I can only do WPA with evil buggy software?
[07:56] <Tired_> TIn can antenna?
[07:58] <Tired_> well, it's time for me to get ready for mother's day brunch (a day late)
[07:58] <Alonea> so is there any alternative to KNM and its friends?
[07:58] <Tired_> good luck to all  :)
[07:58] <Alonea> thanks Tired_
[07:58] <nimble> ubuntu must have something and its probably not kde apps
[07:59] <Alonea> yeah. but then is it something that is gnome only?
[08:00] <nimble> well itd still work in kde
[08:00] <Alonea> I tried WEP one time and my dad had too many problems with it on his computer. his internet was reallllly slow for some reason.
[08:00] <sl00> Guys. I am getting tired of not getting any remote shares to work. I have tried mounting a ftp and a samba but it says I have to do it with root all the time. It worked fine with the Samba share but I cannot create folders or anything!
[08:00] <Alonea> so far I like WPA, but seems not a whole lot of support on linux...
[08:00] <nimble> i think wpa is the more secure one anyway
[08:01] <chaosite> nimble: /wc
[08:01] <tom_> dont use wep, it can be cracked in approx 10 mins in a relatively busy network
[08:01] <Alonea> yeah, think so too, not to mention it takes care of wireless only, not land. I could care less about the hardline since its my house as it is
[08:02] <nimble> uh wc?
[08:02] <tom_> use wpa with a passkey, its easier as you can use human readable paswords and still be secure
[08:02] <Alonea> I just want it to stop my neighbor's sister from using it when she visits.
[08:02] <stamen> hi
[08:02] <stamen> how to launch real player in console
[08:02] <tom_> lol
[08:02] <stamen> what to write
[08:03] <Alonea> tom_: yeah, there is a passkey. any ideas for getting it to work though?
[08:03] <tom_> alonea: well definately use wpa, its more secure and ive found just as easy to set up, if your hardware supports it
[08:03] <tom_> what doesnt work?
[08:04] <Alonea> tom_: but I refuse to use Knetwork Manager and its counterparts Network Manager
[08:04] <tom_> why?
[08:04] <Alonea> they are buggy
[08:04] <phoxy> Tired, I fixed it.
[08:04] <tom_> there not that bad
[08:04] <Alonea> Gaim/pigdin doesn't work correctly with Network Manager.
[08:04] <tom_> ive never had any trouble
[08:04] <phoxy> I got an old copy of my xorg.conf, and copied it to /etc/X11
[08:05] <Alonea> and Knetwork manager on fiesty would not connect me at all. I got rid of them and gaim and everything else was working fine then. Would hate to regress to it
[08:05] <sercik> how can i install a .kmdr file??
[08:05] <aziz> i can't load the speedstep-centrino.ko module. can somebody help me?
[08:05] <aziz> FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_centrino (path/to/speedstep-centrino.ko): No such device
[08:05] <tom_> alonea i never had trouble back in edgy, but im im kde now so i cant test sorry
[08:05] <aziz> that's what I get if I do sudo modprobe speedstep-centrino
[08:05] <tom_> sercik: you need kommander
[08:06] <sercik> thank you tom_ i hae find it
[08:06] <sercik> what is exactly a .kmdr file?
[08:06] <tom_> alonea i think network manager is the only way
[08:06] <Alonea> tom_: yeah, in edgy they didn't cause any problems sitting there, but in fiesty it was a nightmare for a couple days
[08:06] <Alonea> tom_: what does the Ubuntu people use?
[08:06] <tom_> sercik just a script, like a perl script, specifically for kde
[08:07] <tom_> Alonea: network manager seems to be the standard now
[08:07] <tom_> ifup is deprecated i think
[08:07] <sercik> so i can't install i need to execute every time i need..
[08:07] <Alonea> well, that definitely sucks.
[08:08] <sercik> do you know a good qemu frontend?
[08:08] <tom_> sercik just copy it to /usr/bin and mae executable it should be ok
[08:08] <sercik> i don't need kmdr-executor?
[08:08] <tom_> yea you do
[08:09] <tom_> thats like the interpreter
[08:09] <sercik> but i need first time or every time^
[08:09] <sercik> ?
[08:09] <tom_> just install kommander and then copy the script to /usr/bin and make executable
[08:10] <sercik> ok
[08:10] <rysiek|pl> amin81: are you there?
[08:10] <amin81> rysiek: Hey! Yeah, Just got here. Whatsup?
[08:11] <rysiek|pl> amin81: ah, you now, nothing much
[08:11] <sercik> tom_ i have tried but don't work
[08:12] <amin81> rysiek: I tried the commands again...it still says "network unreachable" when trying to set default gateway
[08:12] <sercik> i have maked executable anc copied to /usr/local/bin but i can't execute it
[08:12] <tom_> what happens when you try?
[08:13] <amin81> rysiek: when I try to ping 195.... it still says destination host unreachable
[08:13] <rysiek|pl> amin81: ok, got another thought in the mean time
[08:13] <amin81> rysiek: ok
[08:16] <rysiek|pl> amin81: try this: 1. sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop; 2. sudo killall -15 dhclient3; 3. plug the cable in; 4. sudo /etc/init.d/networking start; 5. wait a few (~5-10) seconds; 6. ifconfig eth0 | grep 'inet addr'; 7. ping -c 3 <IP_ADDRESS> | grep transmitted; 8. re-plug the cable to the IRC box and msg me - I need the output of 6. and 7.
[08:16] <rysiek|pl> amin81: don't forget to plug the cable in ;)
[08:17] <amin81> rysiek: Hahaha! I wont. :) See you in a bit
[08:19] <Chr1831> Hello
[08:21] <sercik> tom_ it gives an error i can only run with kmdr-executor
[08:21] <sercik> but no problem is not important
[08:22] <NSCAD_Nathan> anyone know for a good Samba howto? I can see the shares on the network, but they won't let me connect :/
[08:22] <amin81> rysiek: it froze while I commanded "networking stop"
[08:23] <rysiek|pl> amin81: "froze"?
[08:23] <Gharbeia> Hi, Ihave trouble running Kmail and GPG. Iget backend failure. Any clues on what to do?
[08:24] <rysiek|pl> Gharbeia: do you have KGpg installed and running?
[08:24] <amin81> rysiek: sorry, crashed :)
[08:24] <Gharbeia> rysiek|pl: Yes
[08:24] <rysiek|pl> amin81: the whole box?
[08:24] <amin81> rysiek: yes
[08:24] <amin81> rysiek: i can move the mouse cursor but cannot click on anything
[08:24] <rysiek|pl> Gharbeia: hmmm, what exactly are you trying to do?
[08:25] <rysiek|pl> amin81: try: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[08:25] <Gharbeia> rysiek|pl: Iam trying to sign or encrypt, but Ifail to link my identity to a key, because something is wrong with the backend
[08:25] <amin81> rysiek: black screen...nothing is happening
[08:26] <amin81> rysiek: should I manually restart`?
[08:26] <rysiek|pl> amin81: ok, just reboot, yah
[08:26] <rysiek|pl> *yeah
[08:26] <rysiek|pl> amin81: but that is *very* strange
[08:26] <Gharbeia> An error occurred while fetching the keys from the backend General error
[08:26] <rysiek|pl> Gharbeia: hmmm... do you have Gpg installed, then?
[08:26] <Gharbeia> rysiek|pl: This is what Iget ^
[08:26] <amin81> rysiek: ok. I will need the commands again. Sorry
[08:26] <Gharbeia> rysiek|pl: Yes :)
[08:27] <rysiek|pl> amin81: no prob, here you are:
[08:27] <rysiek|pl> amin81: try this: 1. sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop; 2. sudo killall -15 dhclient3; 3. plug the cable in; 4. sudo /etc/init.d/networking start; 5. wait a few (~5-10) seconds; 6. ifconfig eth0 | grep 'inet addr'; 7. ping -c 3 <IP_ADDRESS> | grep transmitted; 8. re-plug the cable to the IRC box and msg me - I need the output of 6. and 7.
[08:27] <amin81> rysiek: thnx
[08:27] <rysiek|pl> Gharbeia: I don't get it, then. works flawlessly on my box
[08:28] <sercik> do you know a good frontend or qemu?
[08:28] <rysiek|pl> Gharbeia: I don't think I can help you, I am not exactly a gpg-expert :/
[08:28] <rysiek|pl> sercik: qemuctl and qemu-launcher
[08:28] <Gharbeia> rysiek|pl: Thanks anyway
[08:29] <rysiek|pl> sercik: just do aptitude search qemu :)
[08:30] <sercik> i have noone gui in repository
[08:30] <rysiek|pl> sercik: hat version of kubuntu are you using
[08:30] <rysiek|pl> *what
[08:31] <sercik> dapper
[08:32] <rysiek|pl> sercik: ahh... well, in that case you are pretty much on your own. do: apt-cache search qemu and look for "GUI"
[08:32] <rysiek|pl> sercik: if it won't find anything - well, you can google for it, download the code and we can try to compile it together
[08:32] <sercik> rysiek|pl: i have already told that tere aren't gui in repository i'm not a newbye
[08:33] <sercik> i have find website but i can't open it
[08:33] <phoxy> is there an advantage to running the Nvidia driver vs using hte generic NV driver that comes with Kubuntu?
[08:33] <rysiek|pl> sercik: maybe try #ubuntu-it, there should be some guys from Italy there ;)
[08:34] <sercik> rysiek|pl: i don't understand i have no problems here
[08:34] <sercik> how can you understand i'm italian
[08:34] <rysiek|pl> /whois sercik ;)
[08:35] <sercik> interesting
[08:35] <rysiek|pl> try: /whois rysiek|pl - you'll see that my full name ends with .pl. that gives an idea about location
[08:35] <rysiek|pl> sercik: ^^
[08:35] <amin81> rysiek: looks much better!
[08:35] <rysiek|pl> amin81: oh?
[08:35] <Jeroenw> Hi!
[08:35] <amin81> i'll give you the print in a while
[08:36] <rysiek|pl> amin81: sure, waiting eagerly :]
[08:36] <phoxy> is there an advantage to running the Nvidia driver vs using the generic NV driver that comes with Kubuntu?
[08:36] <amin81> rysiek: 0% packet loss
[08:36] <rysiek|pl> yay! ya-hay!
[08:36] <Yorokobi> phoxy, do you plan on using and 3D apps/games?
[08:36] <rysiek|pl> phoxy: aye, the proprietary nvidia driver has much better performance
[08:37] <phoxy> no
[08:37] <rysiek|pl> phoxy: BUT it is *not* OpenSource, unfortunately
[08:37] <phoxy> I had a LOT of trouble with Nvidia in Edgy
[08:37] <rysiek|pl> phoxy: besides it does not support GeForce 4 and older
[08:37] <phoxy> and just now I accidentally changed the driver, and had a hard time getting back to NV
[08:37] <phoxy> I have Geoforce2
[08:37] <rysiek|pl> phoxy: believe me, not possibly more than I with ATI on any linux :)
[08:38] <rysiek|pl> phoxy: then the proprietary nvidia driver won't work for you
[08:38] <phoxy> I believe it-- hardware support in LInux stinks
[08:38] <rysiek|pl> phoxy: nope, wrong
[08:38] <phoxy> (not our fault, of course)
[08:38] <rysiek|pl> phoxy: gf card vendor's support for linux stinks
[08:38] <rysiek|pl> phoxy: no other system has such a wide variety of supported hardware, though
[08:38] <amin81> rysiek: i dont know what's wrong with the computer! it crashed again
[08:39] <phoxy> ok.  Whatever the reason, the poor user is on her own
[08:39] <diepruis> heya, anyone have any idea why Kate's embedded terminal would suddenly disappear when run from anything but the terminal?
[08:39] <rysiek|pl> phoxy: e.g. processors - ARM, SPARC, i368, ia64 i86_64, ...
[08:39] <rysiek|pl> phoxy: wrong again! what about the community? ;)
[08:39] <BluesKaj> NSCAD_Nathan, it may be a jus t a matter of your username and password configuration ...this command helped me get read write permissions fro my wifes windows pc to my linuxbox on our LAN
[08:39] <rysiek|pl> amin81: the linux box crashed again?
[08:40] <amin81> rysiek: as in, i can use the konsole but cannot open any documents!
[08:40] <phoxy> I know, but if I have to reinstall and reconfigure some of the restricted parts of the OS just becasue I bought a higher resolution monitor, all that evaporates
[08:40] <amin81> rysiek: it has partly crashed
[08:40] <BluesKaj> NSCAD_Nathan,  : sudo smbpasswd -a username
[08:40] <rysiek|pl> amin81: very strange. seems like the X (graphical) server has issues
[08:40] <rysiek|pl> amin81: we'll fight with it later, now let's finish the net, shall we? ;)
[08:41] <amin81> rysiek: sorry, yes
[08:41] <rysiek|pl> amin81: you can get to text-only mode with Ctrl+Alt+F1
[08:41] <amin81> rysiek: i will write the print manually
[08:41] <rysiek|pl> amin81: ok
[08:41] <amin81> rysiek: iconfig eth0....says:
[08:41] <amin81> inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>
[08:42] <amin81> Bcast: <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:42] <amin81> Mask: <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:42] <amin81> rysiek: ping -c... says:
[08:42] <amin81> 3 packets transmitted, 3 recieved, 0% packet loss, time 2004 ms :)
[08:43] <jussi01> can someone mention dock apps that work _without_ bery/compiz ?
[08:43] <rysiek|pl> amin81: ok, we are almost there, I think
[08:43] <diepruis> Noone to help with my Kate problem?
[08:43] <jeroen__> Hello
[08:44] <amin81> rysiek: i pressed ctrl+alt+f1. it fully crashed...again. :(
[08:44] <rysiek|pl> amin81: I suppose you might have a problem with hardware
[08:44] <rysiek|pl> :/
[08:44] <amin81> rysiek: ok, back to text only mode...
[08:46] <amin81> rysiek: so sorry
[08:46] <amin81> rysiek: had to reboot with the power button again
[08:46] <rysiek|pl> amin81: don't worry
[08:47] <amin81> do i need to write the commands again?
[08:47] <BluesKaj> dieprus , sometimes kate updates the file you're asking for and it takes a couple of tries to call it up.
[08:47] <ubuntu_> ubotu grub
[08:47] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:48] <rysiek|pl> amin81: yeah, gimme a sec, and you'll get them
[08:48] <amin81> i have them on the irc box
[08:48] <amin81> copied them this time :)
[08:48] <rysiek|pl> amin81: a wee bit different they will be
[08:48] <amin81> rysiek: ok
[08:49] <rysiek|pl> amin81: 1. sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop; 2. plug-in the network cable to the linux box; 2. sudo /etc/init.d/networking start (and wait a few seconds); 3. ifconfig eth0 | grep 'inet addr'; 4. sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>; 5. ping -c 3 <IP_ADDRESS> | grep transmitted; 6. ping -c 3 <IP_ADDRESS> | grep transmitted; 7. ifconfig eth0 | grep 'inet addr' (yes, again); 8. re-plu the cable to the IRC box and get back to me
[08:49] <jordo23_> Is it possible to burn a .MDF windows image file to disc in Kubuntu?
[08:50] <amin81> rysiek: brb
[08:50] <rysiek|pl> amin81: oops, I messed the numbers a bit - heh, nevermind
[08:50] <rysiek|pl> jordo23_: I think there was a way
[08:50] <phoxy> has anyone succeeded in using the Flash player in Firefox or Opera under Kubuntu?
[08:50] <diepruis> BluesKaj: It's been like this for a while now, I don't think it's an intermittent problem.
[08:50] <jordo23_> rysiek|pl: was?
[08:51] <rysiek|pl> jordo23_: "was" == "is, heard of it, but don't remember right now" :)_
[08:51] <BluesKaj> exactly what do you mean deprius ,has kate disappeared altogether ?
[08:51] <_Therock> okay now i have narrowed down the problem
[08:51] <_Therock> there is no shutdown option in my xgl kubuntu
[08:51] <BluesKaj> oops diepruis
[08:52] <_Therock> i think it's because my kdm dont start xsession correct
[08:52] <_Therock> :/
[08:52] <amin81> rysiek: i dont need the killall command right?
[08:52] <rysiek|pl> jordo23_: mdf2iso - sudo aptitude install mdf2iso
[08:52] <rysiek|pl> amin81: no, rather not
[08:52] <amin81> rysiek: ok, brb
[08:52] <diepruis> BluesKaj: the embedded Konsole has disappeared - it only comes up if I start from the command line :)
[08:52] <rysiek|pl> amin81: but
[08:52] <rysiek|pl> amin81: there are quite a few new/changed commands
[08:52] <rysiek|pl> amin81: don't loose them ;)
[08:52] <amin81> i wont :)
[08:53] <rysiek|pl> _Therock: no, it's a known problem with XGL
[08:53] <jordo23_> rysiek|pl: Thanks
[08:53] <phoxy> diepruis-- type alt-F2 Konsole
[08:53] <rysiek|pl> jordo23_: nop
[08:53] <_Therock> ah, so is there a solotion rysiek|pl ?
[08:53] <phoxy> has anyone succeeded in using the Flash player in Firefox or Opera under Kubuntu?
[08:53] <phal__> hi, is there any way to sharpen the fonts in kubuntu? theye are too smooth
[08:53] <rysiek|pl> _Therock: nothing I know of (and I would dearly love to get one)
[08:53] <_Therock> heh
[08:53] <_Therock> well i had them for like one login
[08:54] <_Therock> i did the cookie thing
[08:54] <phal__> phoxy: yes it worked the first time
[08:54] <diepruis> phoxy: that works fine
[08:54] <BluesKaj> diepruis, it doesn't come up in the runbox ..kdesu kate or konqueror /etc/apt/filename ?
[08:54] <rysiek|pl> _Therock: google? I am doing some other thing now, but if you find a howto, we can work through it together
[08:54] <jeroen__> What is the BEST game on Kubuntu?
[08:54] <diepruis> BluesKaj: I'm not sure I understand
[08:54] <_Therock> yeah sure i will try to google some more :)
[08:54] <rysiek|pl> jeroen__: tough one!
[08:54] <diepruis> jeroen__: Kolf :)
[08:54] <_Therock> the truth is out there :)
[08:54] <rysiek|pl> _Therock: you said it, bro!
[08:54] <rysiek|pl> ;)
[08:54] <_Therock> :D
[08:55] <BluesKaj> use the 'run' command dialog
[08:55] <jeroen__> Kolf, is that a game?
[08:55] <diepruis> BluesKaj: Mmmm... kdesu kate seems to solve the problem
[08:55] <houseofbugs> i need some help making Beryl load on startup
[08:55] <diepruis> BluesKaj: If that's what you meant
[08:55] <BluesKaj> yes, that's what i meant
[08:55] <diepruis> BluesKaj: You want me to run konqueror /etc/apt/filename as wel?
[08:56] <BluesKaj> try that too
[08:56] <diepruis> BluesKaj: I think that's opening KWrite, cause I don't see the terminal button thingy
[08:57] <phal__> >>>is there any way to sharpen the fonts in kubuntu? theye are too smooth
[08:57] <diepruis> BluesKaj: You think it's my user's config files causing the problem?
[08:57] <nimble> system settings>appearance>fonts
[08:57] <BluesKaj> it will say kate or konqueror on the titlebar if it's kate or konqueror
[08:57] <phal__> nimble: that doesnt help they are still as smooth as they were
[08:57] <rysiek|pl> phal__: System Settings -> Look'N'Feel (or something similar) -> Fonts -> turn AntiAliasing off
[08:58] <diepruis> BluesKaj: Sorry, I meant I though konqueror is embedding KWrite and not Kate to handle the text file
[08:58] <nimble> it wont change all text straight away
[08:59] <leiar> what do i write to add all users to audio group?
[08:59] <BluesKaj> diepruis, frankly i have no idea what's causing it...perhaps re - embedding kate , but I don't use that procedure so i can't say for sure
[08:59] <amin81> rysiek: it looks good!
[08:59] <rysiek|pl> amin81: great! did the first and second invocation of ifconfig differ in any way?
[09:00] <amin81> rysiek: except for a 33% packet loss on the external ip...let me give you the details
[09:00] <diepruis> BluesKaj: mmm.. thanks anyway at least I have an angle on it now
[09:00] <rysiek|pl> amin81: point is, the external IP worked ;)
[09:00] <amin81> rysiek: no, they are the same
[09:00] <amin81> rysiek: i will give you the details:
[09:00] <rysiek|pl> ok
[09:01] <amin81> ifconfig eth0... inet addr: <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:01] <rysiek|pl> houseofbugs: which version of kubuntu are you using?
[09:01] <amin81> B cast: <IP_ADDRESS> Mask: <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:01] <rysiek|pl> amin81: aye, great
[09:01] <amin81> sudo rout add default...without any problems
[09:02] <rysiek|pl> aye
[09:02] <amin81> ping -c 3 192....: 0% packet loss
[09:02] <houseofbugs> @rysiek|pl: 7.04
[09:02] <amin81> ping 195.114.......33% packet loss
[09:02] <amin81> and the last: infconfig eth0.....is the same as before
[09:02] <rysiek|pl> amin81: ok, we are almost there :)
[09:03] <qsu> could somebody help me with my sound, i can hear sound playing from amarok but it cant record sound so that i can use skype
[09:03] <amin81> rysiek: finally :D
[09:03] <rysiek|pl> amin81: I need to write a short script for you, gimme me 10mins
[09:03] <amin81> rysiek: ok
[09:03] <rysiek|pl> houseofbugs: if you wait ~20mins I will be able to give you a script that starts beryl and em,erald on my box :)
[09:03] <rysiek|pl> whoa, the deadlines are tight ;)
[09:04] <amin81> rysiek: hahaha
[09:05] <nimble> it says how to autostart beryl on the beryl wiki
[09:06] <nimble> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_AIGLX
[09:08] <amin81> a
[09:10] <rysiek|pl> amin81: ok, now, DON'T re-plug the cable to the linux box yet
[09:10] <Ireclan> Anyone here have any experience with KMail/Kontact?
[09:10] <rysiek|pl> amin81: are you in text mode, or in the graphical UI?
[09:10] <rysiek|pl> Ireclan: I do
[09:10] <venik> when I type into Firefox address line about:plugins It tells me that the Macromedia Flash player is installed naad enabled, but when I try to use it to play cnn.com videos, nothing happens
[09:11] <rysiek|pl> venik: tried another website? maybe CNN checks against Firefox?
[09:11] <rysiek|pl> venik: try YouTube, and disable an ad blocker
[09:12] <Ireclan> rysiek|pl: Is it possible to set up some sort of Junkmail filter?
[09:12] <amin81> rysiek: i am in the graphical mode
[09:12] <venik> how do I get it to work?
[09:12] <amin81> rysiek: i dont dare to switch mode...hehehe
[09:12] <nimble> kmail has some spam filter options
[09:13] <rysiek|pl> amin81: ok, in konsole: kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[09:13] <rysiek|pl> amin81: in the dialog input your password
[09:13] <Ireclan> nimble: Mind enlightening me on them, please?
[09:13] <Karti> Hi all.........Kontact question please
[09:13] <amin81> rysiek: ok
[09:14] <rysiek|pl> amin81: in the file find the line "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[09:14] <amin81> rysiek: let me know when to switch the cable over
[09:14] <Karti> Can you transfer MS Outlook .pst files to Kontact?
[09:14] <jordo23> Is there a way to start Konversaion minimized?
[09:14] <nimble> but, i wouldnt use them with an imap email, it froze up and i dunno exactly what happened, but my other computer registers a whole load of new emails come through
[09:14] <jordo23> In system tray?
[09:14] <rysiek|pl> amin81: and DIRECTLY below that line paste this: post-up    if ifconfig eth0 | grep 'Bcast:192.168.1.' | grep 'inet addr:192.168.0' > /dev/null && ! ip r | grep default | grep '192.168.0.' > /dev/null; then route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>; fi
[09:15] <rysiek|pl> jordo23: you would have to look in Konv's options
[09:15] <nimble> anyway, go to tools>anti spam wizard
[09:15] <bxnp> anybody who can help me with my mic problem
[09:15] <jordo23> rysiek|pl: Didn't see it there....already looked
[09:16] <rysiek|pl> jordo23: in taht case - I have no idea :/
[09:16] <jordo23> :)
[09:17] <amin81> rysiek: as I am a first time user of linux i will ask a few stupid questions...hehe
[09:17] <rysiek|pl> aye, go for it
[09:17] <nimble> to disable the anti spam filter for an account go to settings>configure filters>advanced
[09:17] <amin81> rysiek: when you say exactly, should i paste it without leaving any space below iface eth0?
[09:17] <josh_> ive got a strange issue. I have a PCMCIA Compact Flash Card reader... if I plug it into a 32bit system.. works like a charm.. on this 64x2 Turion... it wont work... infact it has issues reading the digital camera directly...
[09:17] <rysiek|pl> amin81: gimme a sec, I'll give you an example :)
[09:18] <josh_> would anyone know what software I would require?
[09:18] <Tuhyk> hi, does anyone here have Dell Inspiron 6400? I need to discuss some issues (bluetooth and display)
[09:18] <amin81> rysiek: thank you :)
[09:18] <amin81> rysiek: sorry about that
[09:20] <sky_> Hello everyone
[09:20] <rysiek|pl> amin81: no prob, I was a n00b too ;)
[09:20] <rysiek|pl> amin81: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20839/
[09:20] <rysiek|pl> amin81: the very long line HAS TO BE a single line
[09:21] <amin81> rysiek: ok, thank you
[09:21] <rysiek|pl> amin81: if unsure, go to the View menu, and un-select the "Dynamically Wrap..."
[09:21] <Tuhyk> well it seems that no inspiron users are here... so, could you help me how to make kubuntu run this "sudo hciconfig hci0 reset" automatically after system start? I need it to run my bluetooth adapter. thanks
[09:21] <rysiek|pl> amin81: afterwards, save the file and paste me it's contents
[09:22] <rysiek|pl> amin81: preferably by saving it, closing Kate and in console: cat /etc/network/interfaces
[09:23] <phal__> is there any cd/dvd writer you can suggest me? like nero
[09:23] <amin81> rysiek: ok 2 more stupid questions: is that a tab before and after "post-up"?
[09:23] <rysiek|pl> phal__: k3b
[09:23] <rysiek|pl> phal__: waaaay better than nero
[09:23] <gustuX> there is a nero for linux too
[09:23] <phal__> thank you going to try that :)
[09:24] <rysiek|pl> amin81: can be a tab, can be a few spaces
[09:24] <rysiek|pl> phal__: nop :)
[09:24] <amin81> rysiek: ok
[09:24] <moshea> hi, has anyone had a problem with x11vnc not accepting connections after an upgrade to Feisty ?
[09:24] <rysiek|pl> gustuX: gah, yeah, try not to remember it ;)
[09:25] <bxnp> anybody who could help this poor soul to talk with his new girlfriend over skype :)
[09:25] <BluesKaj> nero6 on windoze is good , nero linux sucks ...K3B runs well
[09:25] <rysiek|pl> bxnp: oh god, skype
[09:25] <rysiek|pl> bxnp: my poor, lost soul, why not OpenWengo ;)
[09:25] <bxnp> ehm its not a skype problem
[09:26] <rysiek|pl> bxnp: ah, the mike problem ;)
[09:26] <bxnp> its a problem with linux my mic does not work
[09:26] <rysiek|pl> bxnp: tried enabling it in KMix?
[09:26] <rysiek|pl> bxnp: (the speaker icon in the tray)
[09:26] <BluesKaj> or alsamixer
[09:27] <bxnp> oke well i have normal sound, i can listen to music
[09:27] <bxnp> let me try in kmix
[09:27] <rysiek|pl> bxnp: click the icon, click "Mixer" and select the "Input" tab
[09:27] <bxnp> i have master pcm mic boost en internal mic boost
[09:27] <bxnp> in output
[09:28] <rysiek|pl> bxnp: in Input you need the RED dot BELOW the mic slider LIGHTENED UP
[09:28] <rysiek|pl> bxnp: and, of course, the slider as high as it goes ;)
[09:28] <rysiek|pl> amin81: what's with the interfaces file?
[09:30] <jeroen__> How are you guy's?
[09:30] <rysiek|pl> fine, thanks :)
[09:30] <sky_> I have a question: Why i can't change theme in Emerald Manger?
[09:31] <rysiek|pl> sky_: huh? what do you mean?
[09:31] <Tuhyk> guys could you help me what should I do to have this command "sudo hciconfig hci0 reset" start automatically when the system boots?
[09:32] <rysiek|pl> Tuhyk: you can either write your own startup script, or place it in some startup script that already exists
[09:32] <sky_> I use Beryl and in Emerald in can't change Theme
[09:32] <Jeroenw> why I'm nog able to send private messages? I'm registred;
[09:32] <amin81> rysiek: ok, sorry back
[09:32] <amin81> i wrote the whole line manually
[09:33] <nimble> what do you mean cant change theme?
[09:33] <rysiek|pl> amin81: ok, nop. can you paste the whole /etc/network/interfaces on the pastebin? I just want to make *sure* we won't mess anything up ;)
[09:33] <Tuhyk> rysiek|pl:  right and where I can find these scripts? :) thanks
[09:33] <amin81> rysiek: without copy paste...as I was using the memory stick before for transferring over the text but it crashed a few times when I wanted to remove the memory stick
[09:34] <esunder> does beryl have a log?
[09:34] <rysiek|pl> Tuhyk: in /etc/init.d/ - I would edit the /etc/init.d/bootmisc file
[09:34] <amin81> yes, I will...nothing happens if it crashes again right?
[09:34] <rysiek|pl> amin81: ah, so that's it!
[09:34] <amin81> rystiek: yes, I will...nothing happens if it crashes again right?
[09:34] <rysiek|pl> amin81: if you saved the file, no
[09:34] <rysiek|pl> amin81: wait
[09:34] <rysiek|pl> amin81: did you unmount the usb-stick BEFORE removing it?
[09:34] <amin81> rystuiek: yes
[09:35] <rysiek|pl> amin81: ah, ok, nevermind
[09:35] <esunder> does beryl have a log?
[09:35] <amin81> rystiek: I do that every time...that is when the comp crashed the second time
[09:35] <qsu> rysiek|pl: something went wrong with my network
[09:35] <rysiek|pl> esunder: no idea. why would you need one?
[09:35] <bxnp> anyway i am in kmix rysiek|pl
[09:35] <Tuhyk> rysiek|pl:  ok, thanks I'm gonna try it now :)
[09:35] <esunder> well i followed the ubuntu feisty install guide but it is not working
[09:36] <rysiek|pl> Tuhyk: wait, not so fast ;)
[09:36] <dromer> hi all, to watch this site: stage6.divx.com using Synaptic I removed my mozilla-plugin-vlc and installed mozilla-mplayer but the site still asks for me to install mplayer for my browser. any ideas?
[09:36] <bxnp> in the input tab, i have mic boost capture and internal mic boost
[09:36] <rysiek|pl> bxnp: do you have a Mic or Microphone slieder?
[09:37] <rysiek|pl> amin81: ok, nevermind then. let's assume you didn't b0rk anythiong there ;) if you would, it would only affect networking anyway
[09:37] <Tuhyk> rysiek|pl: ooh, I'm still here, anything else needs to be done?
[09:38] <rysiek|pl> Tuhyk: gimme a sec
[09:40] <rysiek|pl> amin81: 1. sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop; 2. plug-in the cable to the linux box; 3. sudo /etc/init.d/networking start; 4. wait a few seconds; 5. ifconfig eth0 | grep 'inet addr'; 6. ip r | grep default; 7. ping -c 3 <IP_ADDRESS> | grep transmitted; 8. ping -c 3 <IP_ADDRESS> | grep transmitted; 9. ping -c 3 www.google.com | grep transmitted; 10. re-plug the cable to the IRC box and drop me a line :)
[09:40] <coloco> alguien me puede decir porque no puedo instalar el xubuntu?
[09:40] <coloco> se me queda al 0% de la instalacion
[09:40] <rysiek|pl> coloco: are you from spain?
[09:40] <amin81> rysiek: ok! done!
[09:40] <BluesKaj> dromer , if you check about:plugins you prolly have an old version of the mplayer plugin ...the latest is the 3.35.. the repos for it will nedd to be added to your sources list : http://download.tuxfamily.org
[09:40] <amin81> rysiek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20843/
[09:40] <coloco> yes
[09:40] <rysiek|pl> coloco: try #ubuntu-es
[09:41] <rysiek|pl> Tuhyk: are you still here?
[09:42] <amin81> rysiek: i double checked it, it looks fine
[09:42] <Jeroenw> rysiek|pl: How can I install a .tar.gz?
[09:42] <rysiek|pl> amin81: great
[09:42] <amin81> rysiek: cool
[09:42] <rysiek|pl> amin81: just as it should be :)
[09:42] <rysiek|pl> amin81: 1. sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop; 2. plug-in the cable to the linux box; 3. sudo /etc/init.d/networking start; 4. wait a few seconds; 5. ifconfig eth0 | grep 'inet addr'; 6. ip r | grep default; 7. ping -c 3 <IP_ADDRESS> | grep transmitted; 8. ping -c 3 <IP_ADDRESS> | grep transmitted; 9. ping -c 3 www.google.com | grep transmitted; 10. re-plug the cable to the IRC box and drop me a line :)
[09:42] <amin81> rysiek: :) good. Now what?
[09:42] <amin81> ok
[09:42] <rysiek|pl> amin81: gluck! :)
[09:42] <Tuhyk> rysiek|pl:  yes, still waiting :)
[09:42] <dromer> BluesKaj: hmm, thxn I'm looking for it right now, what I can find is: mplayerplug-in 3.31
[09:43] <rysiek|pl> Tuhyk: kdesu kate /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[09:43] <amin81> rysiek: hehehe! gluck!
[09:43] <rysiek|pl> Tuhyk: and insert your line(s) just BEFORE this line:         # Remove bootclean's flag files.
[09:44] <rysiek|pl> Tuhyk: save the file and you are done :) although, preferably, do paste it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and give me the link, so that I can check if it's ok
[09:44] <BluesKaj> ok dromer , the repository site i gave you is wrong ... google for the tuxfamily repos
[09:44] <rysiek|pl> Tuhyk: it wouldn't be a good thing if you messed up your init scripts ;)
[09:44] <Tuhyk> rysiek|pl:  ok, I'll try it, thanks
[09:44] <rysiek|pl> Jeroenw: you mean a tar.gz with a program sources?
[09:44] <rysiek|pl> Tuhyk: nop
[09:44] <dromer> BluesKaj: ok, why isn't the one in the normal repo's working?
[09:46] <Tuhyk> rysiek|pl:  ok here it is - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20844/
[09:46] <Jeroenw> rysiek|pl: yes
[09:47] <BluesKaj> dromer,  'deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy 3v1n0'   'deb-src http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy 3v1n0'
[09:47] <rysiek|pl> Jeroenw: open konsole, cd to the directory with the tar.gz file
[09:47] <Jeroenw> rysiek|pl: ok
[09:48] <rysiek|pl> Jeroenw: tar -xzf the_file.tar.gz && cd the_new_directory && ./configure && make && sudo make install
[09:48] <dromer> BluesKaj: I'm on feisty, can I add those as well ?
[09:48] <rysiek|pl> Tuhyk: looks AOK
[09:48] <rysiek|pl> Tuhyk: should work :)
[09:48] <Tuhyk> rysiek|pl:  ok I'm gonna try it, be right back
[09:48] <BluesKaj> yes
[09:49] <BluesKaj> dromer, or you can find them here as well : http://gapz.tuxfamily.org/repos/index-depot.html
[09:50] <Jeroenw> rysiek|pl: wow thanks ^^
[09:50] <BluesKaj> just change the "edgy" to "feisty"
[09:50] <BluesKaj> or dapper to feisty
[09:52] <rysiek|pl> Jeroenw: no prob, we'll se if it compiles and works :)
[09:52] <dromer> BluesKaj: ok I found it, thnx :)
[09:52] <amin81> rysiek: :( :/ :s :( :(
[09:53] <bxnp> rysiek|pl: ehm i have some serious network problems
[09:53] <amin81> rysiek: it didnt work!! couldnt ping the external ip...let me post it for you
[09:53] <bxnp> but anyway about my mic problem
[09:53] <bxnp> what should i do
[09:53] <rysiek|pl> amin81: ok
[09:55] <Tuhyk> rysiek|pl: well it didn't help, but the situation changed - now it doesn't work at all, when I type it it does nothing
[09:55] <amin81> rysiek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20847/
[09:55] <rysiek|pl> Tuhyk: ok, then it must be run AFTER bootmisc.sh script
[09:56] <rysiek|pl> Tuhyk: delete the line from that script, and you would have to write your own
[09:56] <rysiek|pl> Tuhuk: or... a moment, please :)
[09:56] <rysiek|pl> amin81: on it
[09:56] <insystel> hi
[09:56] <eguzki> hi
[09:56] <insystel> im spanish
[09:56] <amin81> rysiek: no probs...sorry
[09:57] <eguzki> hola
[09:57] <rysiek|pl> amin81: no problem, you don't have to apologize :)
[09:57] <rysiek|pl> amin81: I must have done an error or something
[09:57] <eguzki> hablo mejor el espaol que el ingles
[09:58] <amin81> rysiek: hmm
[09:58] <insystel> yo tambien hablo mejor espaol que ingles
[09:58] <rysiek|pl> amin81: got it!
[09:58] <amin81> post-up    if ifconfig eth0 | grep 'Bcast:192.168.1.' | grep 'inet addr:192.168.0'
[09:58] <amin81> rysiek: is that line correct?
[09:58] <amin81> rysiek: oh, ok
[09:59] <rysiek|pl> amin81: ...! ip r | grep default | grep '192.168.0.' > /dev/null; then route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>: fi... -> there should be ';', not ':', after 'route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>'
[09:59] <rysiek|pl> amin81:  a semicolon, not colon :)
[09:59] <BluesKaj> !es | insystel
[09:59] <ubotu> insystel: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:59] <amin81> rysiek: haha! that detail was the problem?
[10:00] <rysiek|pl> amin81: yup
[10:00] <insystel> pero como soy nuevo en este systema operativo no se como moverme
[10:00] <rysiek|pl> amin81: just do: kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[10:00] <rysiek|pl> amin81: and change "gw <IP_ADDRESS>: fi" to "gw <IP_ADDRESS>; fi"
[10:00] <BluesKaj> !es | insystel
[10:00] <amin81> ok
[10:00] <ubotu> insystel: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:00] <rysiek|pl> amin81: and then...
[10:01] <rysiek|pl> amin81: 1. sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop; 2. plug-in the cable to the linux box; 3. sudo /etc/init.d/networking start; 4. wait a few seconds; 5. ifconfig eth0 | grep 'inet addr'; 6. ip r | grep default; 7. ping -c 3 <IP_ADDRESS> | grep transmitted; 8. ping -c 3 <IP_ADDRESS> | grep transmitted; 9. ping -c 3 www.google.com | grep transmitted; 10. re-plug the cable to the IRC box and drop me a line :)
[10:01] <Tuhyk> rysiek|pl:  ok, maybe this should help - I do it according to this howto (http://linux6400.wordpress.com/2007/04/23/bluetooth-how-to/), but probably I do something wrong
[10:01] <Jeroenw> Anyone knows there are a lot of people who play Cube 3D?
[10:01] <amin81> rysiek: same thing as before?
[10:02] <amin81> rysiek: yes... :)
[10:02] <Rictoo> How would I get Ubuntu to redetect my monitor?
[10:03] <rysiek|pl> if anybody written anything to me during the last 5mins
[10:03] <rysiek|pl> please repeat
[10:03] <Tuhyk> rysiek|pl: ok, maybe this should help - I do it according to this howto (http://linux6400.wordpress.com/2007/04/23/bluetooth-how-to/), but probably I do something wrong
[10:03] <ziofiltro> hi
[10:03] <ziofiltro> i'm ziofiltro
[10:03] <BluesKaj> Rictoo, are on kubuntu now ?
[10:03] <rysiek|pl> Tuhyk: or probably not :)
[10:03] <Rictoo> BluesKaj: Yes
[10:03] <Rictoo> I got a new LCD monitor
[10:04] <Rictoo> I want Ubuntu to redetect it =p
[10:04] <Rictoo> I haven't plugged it in yet
[10:05] <BluesKaj> Rictoo, check system settings/monitor & display/ configure monitor ..you should see your's in a the list
[10:05] <rysiek|pl> amin81: drop me a message when you change the file and test it ;)
[10:05] <Rictoo> Ok, thanks
[10:06] <pulaski> hello
[10:09] <amin81> rysiek: wohooooo! :D
[10:09] <rysiek|pl> amin81: works?
[10:09] <amin81> rysiek: a 33% loss when ping 195...
[10:09] <rysiek|pl> yeah, it's a distant server from you
[10:10] <amin81> rysiek: and a 0% loss when ping www.google.com! :D
[10:10] <rysiek|pl> :]
[10:10] <rysiek|pl> amin81: well, my job is done :)
[10:10] <amin81> rysiek: soooo cool!
[10:10] <Rictoo> WOOT
[10:10] <Rictoo> I LOVE LCD MONITORS
[10:10] <Rictoo> DEY R SO KEWL
[10:10] <Rictoo> But CRT's are pretty good too =/
[10:10] <amin81> let'se see if I can get online...brb...hopefully logged on with the linux box :)
[10:10] <amin81> rysiek: let'se see if I can get online...brb...hopefully logged on with the linux box :)
[10:11] <amin81> rysiek: brb
[10:11] <rysiek|pl> Rictoo: *nothing* beats a 20" LCD with beryl on it :]
[10:11] <BluesKaj> Rictoo, working ok then .. :)
[10:11] <rysiek|pl> amin81: gluck!
[10:11] <Arwen> Rictoo, what kinda comment was that?
[10:11] <rysiek|pl> Arwen: an emotional one ;)
[10:11] <Rictoo> rysiek|pl: Mines 17"
[10:12] <Rictoo> :(
[10:12] <Arwen> LCDs are nice because they have subpixels, but CRTs are nice because they're cheap and have higher contrast/response
[10:12] <BluesKaj> he's celebrating
[10:12] <rysiek|pl> Rictoo: life's no piece a cake ;)
[10:13] <rysiek|pl> Arwen: what's the problem in that? Mine's a 4:3
[10:13] <amin81> rysiek: :( haha
[10:14] <amin81> rysiek: back on the xp box
[10:14] <Arwen> rysiek|pl, read it again, I need one that has 4:3... meaning my current one doesn't
[10:14] <pulaski> I have 2computers.  One is a dual boot win2k/feisty fawn kubuntu 7.04 and the other is an old PII dell running kubuntu 7.04 server,  I currently use the dell as an NFS file server to my kubuntu client.  I am now setting up samba on the dell to also serve files to my win2k side.
[10:14] <rysiek|pl> Arwen: ah, m'kay
[10:14] <rysiek|pl> Arwen: sorry
[10:14] <Arwen> yeah, dunno why display manufacturers came up with the idea of 1280x1024
[10:14] <Arwen> shitty
[10:14] <Rictoo> BluesKaj: It didn't redetect it
[10:14] <Rictoo> in xorg.conf it still shows my previous monitor
[10:14] <rysiek|pl> amin81: was that "back on xp, something messed up" or "back on xp, linux has net though"?
[10:15] <amin81> rysiek: no, back on xp, something messed up
[10:15] <nimble> 1280x1024 must been cheaper to produce
[10:15] <rysiek|pl> amin81: argh.
[10:15] <nimble> why would you want a 4:3 over 16:10 though?
[10:15] <amin81> rysiek: when I reconnected the cable and started firefox, it did not work
[10:15] <BluesKaj> Rictoo,just choose it from the list...mine is old but it wasn't detected either , no biggie just to choose the monitor from the list.
[10:15] <Arwen> nimble, widescreen sucks.....
[10:16] <Rictoo> My monitor isn't in the list oO
[10:16] <amin81> rysiek: when I started konqueror, it did not work
[10:16] <Rictoo> My monitor isn't in the list oO
[10:16] <Arwen> and 16:10 especially sucks
[10:16] <pulaski> can someone recommend a good HOWTO to configure the samba smb.conf and the win2k client?
[10:16] <rysiek|pl> amin81: reconnect the cable, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart; wait a few seconds, start Ff
[10:16] <Arwen> at least gimme 16:9..
[10:16] <rysiek|pl> amin81: ...or whatever net app
[10:16] <amin81> rysiek: then when I wrote ping -c 3 www.google.com: uknown host
[10:16] <Rictoo> Btw, an LCD monitor at 60hz is the same as 75hz, right?
[10:16] <amin81> rysiek: brb
[10:16] <Rictoo> because both work. Which should I choose?
[10:17] <nimble> widescreens great, vertical space is far less useful than horizontal
[10:17] <Arwen> Rictoo, more Hz is better
[10:17] <rysiek|pl> nimble: nope
[10:17] <phal__> ctry+alt+backspace wont work what can it be?
[10:17] <rysiek|pl> nimble: it depends what you do
[10:17] <Arwen> nimble, hell no, the aspect ratio is non-standard. Not to mention that wallpapers and standard def video fail on widescreen.
[10:17] <rysiek|pl> nimble: I webdevelop and write apps, I don't need the horizontal space, I *really* need the vertical space
[10:18] <Arwen> and personally, I do need more vertical space, horizontal space is useless to me
[10:18] <phal__> ctry+alt+backspace wont work what can i do?
[10:18] <Arwen> phal__, it won't work as in it fails to restart X?
[10:19] <nimble> what for?  16:9 allows you to place 2 reasonably sized windows next to each other, 4:3 wont unless youre at a really high resolution
[10:19] <phal__> arwen yes
[10:20] <Arwen> phal__, type in a console "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[10:20] <pulaski> can someone recommend a comprehensive HOWTO to help me configure my kubuntu 7.04 server running samba with my wind2k client?
[10:20] <Arwen> nimble, because I find most images are larger vertically than horizontally?
[10:20] <phal__> but how can i fix it?
[10:20] <Arwen> nimble, besides, if you need the extra horizontal space, you can double up on displays
[10:20] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: so use monitor rotation and use the monitor in portrait mode :)
[10:20] <rysiek|pl> nimble: whet talking about the same screen size (15" for eg.), I prefer 4:3
[10:20] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, lol, then I'd have to physically rotate it...
[10:20] <Daisuke_Ido> it can be done :)
[10:21] <rysiek|pl> nimble: I just bought a 20", I could tage either 20" widescreen or 4:3, took the latter
[10:21] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, not if it's a CRT? :-)
[10:21] <Daisuke_Ido> how many widescreen crts are there?
[10:21] <rysiek|pl> *take
[10:21] <nimble> well i am talking about 23"/24" really
[10:21] <Arwen> nimble, yeah, again, I refuse to take a widescreen display if it has less than 1200 vertical size :-\
[10:21] <Daisuke_Ido> standard pc monitors.  lcd FAR outweighs those :)
[10:21] <nimble> i dont really like working on screens smaller than that
[10:21] <sa__> rysiek>
[10:21] <sa__> rysiek: hellooooooooooooo! this is amin81 on the linux :)
[10:21] <Arwen> nimble, I wish I had your kind of cash...
[10:22] <rysiek|pl> Daisuke_Ido: oh, no. the CRT's are *far* heavier! ;)
[10:22] <rysiek|pl> sa__: yay!
[10:22] <Daisuke_Ido> oh, here's a discussion point: ati's promise to provide open drivers.  does anyone believe it?
[10:22] <rysiek|pl> :)
[10:22] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, no
[10:22] <Daisuke_Ido> rysiek|pl: nice word-twisting :)
[10:22] <sa__> rysiek: so do i need to do the networking restart everytime i start the comp_
[10:22] <sa__> ?
[10:22] <rysiek|pl> Daisuke_Ido: I do. they are loosing market share, they *have* to do it
[10:22] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, or, they'll provide an open source driver that does indirect rendering... and poorly too
[10:22] <chief> hm
[10:22] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: i think they'll provide an open 2d driver and continue to have a binary blob for 3d drivers
[10:23] <rysiek|pl> Daisuke_Ido: well, I can almost say I am being tought that
[10:23] <weesi> Anyone know how I can get two machines running kubuntu to share files, Im using a dsl router...
[10:23] <pedr1> Hey guys!
[10:23] <rysiek|pl> sa__: not unless the cable is there
[10:23] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, which doesn't help at all since radeon works fine for 2d... and doesn't fix the problem that a 1900XTX on fglrx is slower than Intel...
[10:23] <sa__> rysiek: ok!
[10:23] <Tuhyk> btw when you are talking about displays... is there any difference between 50 Mhz and 60 Mhz rerfresh rate on a notebook display? I've managed to set up ideal resolution 1440x900 but only with 50 Mhz refresh (win can do 60 Mhz),
[10:23] <rysiek|pl> sa__: if linux starts with the cable plugged in - it'll work
[10:23] <rysiek|pl> sa__: if you hot-replug, you need it
[10:23] <Arwen> Tuhyk, between 50 and 60? hell yeah
[10:23] <Arwen> after 60, it's kinda hard to tell
[10:24] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: but it pays lip service to open source, which is all they're doing
[10:24] <sa__> rysiek: and how about if i connect the comp at someone else's connection
[10:24] <Daisuke_Ido> :)
[10:24] <rysiek|pl> sa__: the networkmanager was supposed to handle this, but it's quite buggy yet
[10:24] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, exactly
[10:24] <rysiek|pl> sa__: might just work without networking restart
[10:24] <nimble> 1900 is slower than intel?  :-/ my main computer has a 1900
[10:24] <Arwen> say, don't recent ATI cards lack a 2d core? so you need fglrx to use them at all?
[10:24] <sa__> rysiek: ok
[10:24] <nimble> might have to get a 8800
[10:24] <Daisuke_Ido> then comes nvidia on its white stallion and provides well-done open source 3d drivers.
[10:24] <Daisuke_Ido> and then i wake up
[10:24] <Tuhyk> Arwen:  so I should try to change it? because whatever I do I could not change it, I've edited xorg.conf hundred times with no effect
[10:24] <rysiek|pl> sa__: thing is: your DHCP server sends some bogus info - sets the ip to 192.168.0.x and the Broadcast to 192.168.1.x
[10:25] <weesi> thanks
[10:25] <sa__> rysiek: tooooooooooons of thanx...
[10:25] <Arwen> Tuhyk, hmm... you should probably try to change it but I have no idea how
[10:25] <sa__> rysiek: ok...
[10:25] <rysiek|pl> sa__: and tries to set gatreway to <IP_ADDRESS> - and the standards-complying systems (like Linux) get confused
[10:25] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, or just settle with Intel?
[10:25] <pedr1> I have an error message when I run k3b
[10:25] <pedr1> http://www.mypastebin.com/?code=1758908520
[10:25] <pedr1> anyone can help me to solve it?
[10:25] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: it's really difficult for me to go with intel graphics
[10:26] <sa__> rysiek: is there anyway this could be fixed in the next version of linux? so people that have a similar connection as me dont get the same problem in the future
[10:26] <rysiek|pl> sa__: don't mention it, really :) I am just paying my debt back :)
[10:26] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, to be fair, if you have the newest chipset (965GM?), the integrated chip is fairly powerful
[10:26] <rysiek|pl> sa__: hmmm
[10:26] <Arwen> enough to play old games at least
[10:26] <Daisuke_Ido> using an amd processor, and an amd motherboard with nforce...  makes intel a not-so-easy-to-implement choice
[10:26] <rysiek|pl> sa__: yeah, quite probable; although it really isn't a bug in linux, but in the configuration of DHCP server
[10:26] <sa__> rysiek: so is there anyone i can mail about the problem as a request to look into this problem and try to fix it
[10:27] <rr_lap> how do i get my system back to ubuntu after i installed kubuntu-desktop?
[10:27] <rysiek|pl> sa__: but I will remember this case, so that next time it takes 10mins, not 3hrs ;)
[10:27] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, lol, nvidia chipset? you fail :-)
[10:27] <Daisuke_Ido> rr_lap: when you log in at gdm, choose gnome instead of kde
[10:27] <Daisuke_Ido> Arwen: better than via.
[10:27] <rysiek|pl> sa__: yeah, try posting a bugreport at launchpad
[10:27] <rysiek|pl> sa__: I'll give you a link
[10:27] <Arwen> Daisuke_Ido, heh, for motherboards, nothing beats Intel :-)
[10:27] <rr_lap> Daisuke_Ido: how does that remove kopete and such applications?
[10:28] <Daisuke_Ido> rr_lap: you just said you wanted to go back to gnome, not that you wanted to remove kde
[10:28] <sa__> rysiek: :) cool...i got help from a guy 2 days back...(adaptr) he told me to download dig and try to fix the problem
[10:28] <sa__> never got that far
[10:28] <rr_lap> Daisuke_Ido: i never said i wanted to get back to gnome, i said i wanted to get rid of kubuntu
 how do i get my system back to ubuntu after i installed kubuntu-desktop?
[10:29] <rysiek|pl> sa__: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu -> try posting a bugreport against the dhclient3 package
[10:29] <rr_lap> i didnt say anything about gnome
[10:29] <Daisuke_Ido> that is what you said, but instead of arguing semantics, you can remove packages one by one
[10:29] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu = gnome
[10:29] <Daisuke_Ido> kubuntu = kde
[10:29] <sa__> rysiek: ok!
[10:29] <rr_lap> Daisuke_Ido: not neceserily
[10:29] <rr_lap> Daisuke_Ido: dont assume things
[10:29] <rr_lap> and dont stereotype people
[10:29] <rysiek|pl> sa__: afterwards just mail me the link -><EMAIL_ADDRESS>- I'll add a comment with some more info maybe
[10:30] <rr_lap> Daisuke_Ido: so i need to mauneelly tell it to remove all 199 packs?
[10:30] <rysiek|pl> sa__: I got to go now, cu later, happy linux using ;)
[10:30] <Daisuke_Ido> yes
[10:30] <rysiek|pl> cu all, gtg
[10:30] <sa__> rysiek: so is there anyway repay you??
[10:31] <sa__> rysiek: i can...
[10:31] <nimble> anyone ever get a problem where beryl wont let you resize window, like you change the size and it just changes back again?
[10:31] <Arwen> nope... but check your settings in window plugins
[10:32] <nimble> im pretty sure its a bug, i have resize enabled, and i seem to be able to fix it by maximising the window then unmaximising it
[10:32] <Arwen> nimble, it's a bug then :-)
[10:33] <Arwen> nimble, oh, but do you have snapping windows on?
[10:33] <pedr1> Sorry, I would like to have some help with an error message in k3b
[10:33] <nimble> yeah
[10:33] <pedr1> http://www.mypastebin.com/?code=1758908520
[10:33] <nimble> that causes a problem?
[10:33] <pedr1> any suggestion?
[10:33] <Arwen> nimble, preventing window resize is what it's supposed to do, lol
[10:34] <nimble> hmm?  snapping windows doesnt seem to affect resizing at all (which id actually prefer it if it did), only moving
[10:35] <rubikcube> hi, how can I change the icon that is shown when plugging in a USB drive?  It always shows an ipos icon and I (or my girlfriend) wants to change that.
[10:35] <nimble> what actually happens is i resize it, then i click on it and it just changes back to what it was before
[10:35] <nimble> im pretty sure its not the correct behaviour
[10:35] <pedr1> is there a channel of k3b?
[10:35] <pedr1> to have some help there?
[10:41] <pedr1> Well, I have said that my problem is about LC_var
[10:41] <pedr1> that maybe I have to set them
[10:41] <pedr1> how can I do it?
[10:44] <unix_infidel_> anyone know of a proper way to get 3rd party windows explorer apps support?
[10:47] <novosirj> Anyone familiar with how firefox handles file associations?
[10:48] <Arwen> novosirj, err... in about:config
[10:48] <novosirj> Mine has gone and associated ZIP files with Wine...
[10:48] <novosirj> I looked there... doesn't seem to be anything regarding that in particular.
[10:48] <novosirj> I can say Open With... and then pick something else and say always... and that works.
[10:48] <novosirj> But I don't know where it got that idea in the first place -- I'd like to check some of those out. It has odd ideas about a lot of types... it's not using KDE's defs, I know that.
[10:49] <phal__> anyone knows how can i set the refresh rate to 85 Hz? There is only 60 Hz now
[10:50] <nimble> edit your xorg.conf
[10:50] <phal__> done it i changed the ref. rate value with the ddcprobe's output but i didnt open 85 hz too
[10:50] <phal__> there were only 60 and 87
[10:50] <phal__> and not 85
[10:50] <Black_Cat> phal__, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[10:51] <phal__> i never managed to finish that :D
[10:51] <firecrotch> novosirj: ~/.mozilla/firefox/****.default/mimeTypes.rdf
[10:51] <phal__> but i will try it later
[10:51] <cpk1> just edit xorg.conf by hand if you know the values for sure
[10:51] <phal__> thank you
[10:51] <firecrotch> novosirj: **** varies depending on build version
[10:51] <novosirj> Lemme take a look.
[10:53] <novosirj> Well, it stores your NEW ones there...
[10:54] <novosirj> So like when I tried to open a .zip file and it wanted wine, I added /usr/bin/ark as a choice. That is now in there... However, I still have no idea why it thought wine would be a good choice to begin with... it says "Wine Windows Emulator" in the original box.
[10:55] <firecrotch> novosirj: Could it have been a self-extracting ZIP file?
[10:55] <novosirj> Nah... all ZIP files.
[10:55] <hyper_ch> hiho, someone knows how to convert a 3gp video from a SonyEricsson cell phone to avi?
[10:55] <novosirj> Maybe I can check KDE's description for .EXE and see if .ZIP is included in there somehow.
[10:59] <dak> hey
[10:59] <novosirj> Yup, nothing at all that I can see -- it's insane.
[10:59] <dak> anyone know why kubuntu wont play all *.rm files yet debian will ?
[10:59] <OldToker> hi all having trouble getting my kubuntu install on the net? keeps complaining about a default gateway being invalid? can someone lend a hand?
[11:00] <wily> hi all
[11:00] <dak> OldToker: you lettting it run dhcp ?
[11:00] <OldToker> no manual config
[11:00] <dak> never done a net install with ubuntu tho
[11:00] <dak> well
[11:00] <dak> do you have a router at home ?
[11:00] <OldToker> yes
[11:00] <dak> have you ever connected to its config page ?
[11:00] <OldToker> and 4 other computers.. and 2 wifi's :)
[11:00] <firecrotch> hi wily
[11:01] <dak> like <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:01] <OldToker> yes..
[11:01] <dak> cuz odds are that is your defualt gateway
[11:01] <dak> the ip you conect to to config your router
[11:01] <OldToker> that's how I got it to the manual setup.
[11:01] <onlineapps> hi, anyone got a good program like Ulead on windows that will convert videos to the MPEG DVD format and burn it?
[11:01] <dak> whats the error
[11:01] <binks> onlineapps: tovid   or avidemux  or  devede
[11:02] <onlineapps> thanks
[11:02] <onlineapps> bye
[11:02] <novosirj> How about spelling on the word sentences?
[11:03] <binks> lol
[11:03] <Arwen> fools
[11:03] <novosirj> Let's have that kind of rain too.
[11:03] <binks> Arwen: these peolpe not heard of divx players
[11:03] <Arwen> binks, heh, why not just use TV-Out?
[11:04] <binks> my english teachers tried for years to get me to speak and spell my native language they failed youve no chance
[11:04] <esunder> what is the room for (k)ubuntu and beryl?
[11:05] <novosirj> So I guess my real question is let's say that in Firefox, your associations are totally empty. Where does it get the associations from in that case? That seems to be what I'm dealing with, wherever it pulls the default file types from. I suppose I could ask on #firefox, provided there is one.
[11:05] <binks> Arwen: well yes my w/e project will be to get either vdr or myth orking with my dvb-c
[11:05] <klaus_> hallo ... habe feisty neu drauf, trotz dieser libdvdcss2 kann ich keine dvds abspielen :( nichtmal lsdvd geht ) libdvdcss debug: disc is unscrambled /  using CSS key cache dir:  ... / libdvdcss error: read error / Can't open disc /dev/dvd! ) unter edgy ging das noch :( any ideas ?
[11:05] <Arwen> esunder, #ubuntu-effects or #beryl
[11:05] <Arwen> klaus_, english
[11:06] <klaus_> sorry, arwen , yes
[11:06] <klaus_> hello ... using feisty since a few days, having libdvdcss2 but cannot play dvds :( also lsdvd wont work ) libdvdcss debug: disc is unscrambled /  using CSS key cache dir:  ... / libdvdcss error: read error / Can't open disc /dev/dvd! ) unter edgy ging das noch :( any ideas ?
[11:06] <esunder> ty arwen
[11:06] <klaus_> under edgy it worked
[11:06] <binks> klaus_: use vlc it rocks
[11:07] <Arwen> klaus_, what media player? have you tried alternate ones?
[11:07] <klaus_> tried vlc, dont work ... tried mplayer, vlc, dvdrip, dvdbackup, lsdvd ... same error
[11:07] <binks> didnt the dvdcss package change in fiesty
[11:07] <esunder> also, is there a good way to backup a kubuntu installation, settings, etc, I have gotten beryl/XGL working on an ATI x1900xt which has been stated as unsuported on a few websites
[11:07] <binks> !dvd
[11:07] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:07] <Arwen> klaus_, ok, can you try opening /dev/scd0 instead of /dev/dvd ?
[11:07] <Arwen> that might help
[11:08] <klaus_> using /dev/scd0 has same results
[11:09] <Arwen> klaus_, hmm... if you have VLC, under input -> access filters -> DVD, try setting method to disc or key
[11:09] <esunder> is there any way to see how much drive space i have left?
[11:09] <peyote> df
[11:09] <klaus_> thanx, arwen, i try
[11:10] <esunder> ty peyote
[11:10] <novosirj> Alright, I'm out, thanks for the help.
[11:12] <foxhound31> does the install for nvidia drivers work properly in 7.04
[11:12] <foxhound31> or due still have to spend ages on the command line getting nothing to work
[11:13] <Arwen> foxhound31, perfectly? nothing is perfect
[11:13] <foxhound31> ie using the gui to install the drivers
[11:13] <Arwen> but the kernel bugs were fixed
 hi, how can I change the icon that is shown when plugging in a USB drive?  It always shows an ipod icon and I (or my girlfriend) wants to change that.
[11:13] <foxhound31> drove me nuts the last time trying to get the drivers installed adn it kept breaking
[11:14] <Arwen> rubikcube, lol, girlfriend? keep dreaming :-). Obvious question coming up - is it an iPod?
[11:14] <bordy> So, I changed the theme of my desktop and now icons (ie inside of kopete, and the bouncy icons) are not showing up at all, and are just little grey boxes. Any help?
[11:14] <foxhound31> what exactley where the kernel bugs that affected this issue?
[11:15] <Arwen> foxhound31, old version of nvidia.ko
[11:15] <Arwen> i.e. incompatible
[11:15] <foxhound31> a light dawns on me
[11:15] <rubikcube> no, it's her normal 512MB usb stick... this seems to be a new behaviour with feisty
[11:16] <foxhound31> so now we can have accelerated graphics without pain
[11:16] <Arwen> rubikcube, well, I'll play along with you.. anyway, does this problem persist with all USB sticks? or just that one?
[11:16] <Arwen> foxhound31, using binary drivers is itself a pain...
[11:16] <foxhound31> right well I'll try out 7.04 and see how I get on
[11:17] <rubikcube> hmm, let's try another stick...
[11:17] <mike__> i need help!
[11:17] <klaus_> arwen: libdvdcss can crack the key, but last message befor read-error is "using css-key cache dir " ...
[11:18] <firecrotch> mike__: What can we help you with?
[11:18] <rubikcube> happens with all sticks
[11:18] <foxhound31> ok arwen thanks see you
[11:18] <mike__> firecrotch: lol nice name, anyways i want to download Aol Instant Messager
[11:19] <Arwen> klaus_, hmm, let's try purging the cache? the easiest way to do that is to reinstall libdvdcss
[11:19] <mike__> firecrotch: i dont know what file to choose there are several
[11:19] <firecrotch> mike__:  Is there any particular reason you want AOL Instant Messenger over something like Kopete or Pidgin?
[11:19] <rubikcube> changing the icon with right-click on the desktop symbol doesn't help, the new icon shows in the properties dialog, but it'll stay the same on the desktop
[11:20] <mike__> i really dont like Kopete, its just annoying to use
[11:20] <mike__> In my opinion
[11:20] <firecrotch> mike__: Have you tried Pidgin (formerly known as Gaim) ?
[11:20] <klaus_> Arwen, i tried to reinstall libdvdcss2 from several sources ...
[11:20] <mike__> no whats that?
[11:21] <Arwen> klaus_, hmm, try deleting ~/.dvdcss
[11:21] <klaus_> Arwen: I used http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ as source
[11:21] <firecrotch> mike__:  It's an IM program that supports AIM, Yahoo IM, MSN, IRC, etc
[11:21] <klaus_> ok, i try deleting
[11:21] <mike__> okay how do i get it, im new to Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy, so i dont know how to install somthing
[11:22] <klaus_> Arwen, erasing the dir has no success
[11:22] <rubikcube> Arwen or anyone else: any idea about the icons?
[11:22] <firecrotch> mike__:  Programs are installed by using Adept.   It's called "Add/Remove Programs" on your K Menu
[11:22] <Arwen> rubikcube, sorry, didn't see your comment - sounds like an icon set problem
[11:23] <Arwen> or it could be because of amarok trying to treat your USB device as an ipod
[11:23] <rubikcube> Any idea where they're defined?
[11:23] <Arwen> /usr/share/icons - but check in amarok to see if it's "managing" any music devices
[11:23] <firecrotch> mike__:  You might need to enable all of the repositories for Kubuntu
[11:23] <firecrotch> !repos
[11:23] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:24] <rubikcube> no, in /usr/share/icons there are only the icons themselves, not the connetcion between mime-types, devices and icons
[11:24] <mike__> oh
[11:25] <mike__> are you familiar with Kopete?
[11:25] <firecrotch> mike__:  Not really, since I use Gaim/Pidgin
[11:25] <mike__> oh okay
[11:25] <mike__> because for some reason, it dosent show all of my friends, just 3 out of 147
[11:26] <Arwen> klaus_, sorry, seems like my ideas have run out
[11:26] <Arwen> mike__, that's a lot of friends o.O
[11:26] <firecrotch> mike__: Perhaps it's set to only show those who are online? There ought to be an option to show offline buddies
[11:26] <klaus_> Arwen, Ok, thank you for your try
[11:26] <mike__> no only 1 is offline out of 3
[11:26] <mike__> so i dont understand why they arnt all being shown
[11:27] <firecrotch> mike__: I'll take a little poking around in kopete and see what I can come up with
[11:27] <mike__> okay thanks
[11:28] <klaus_> Maybe anybody else knows what is wrong in feisty playing dvds ? i get "libdvdcss error: read error" if using lsdvd or mplayer or vlc or slt ... ?
[11:29] <Arwen> klaus_, oh yeah, check that you have write permission to your DVD drive
[11:29] <firecrotch> mike__: take a look at the file ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/contactlist.xml
[11:29] <firecrotch> mike__:  Does that show all of your friends?
[11:29] <Graham> Hey people, how do I get .wma support in Amarok?
[11:29] <klaus_> Arwen write permission ? dont really know hmm , you mean the right of /dev/scd0 ?
[11:30] <Arwen> klaus_, yes
[11:30] <Arwen> ls -l /dev/scd*
[11:30] <klaus_> ok, mom
[11:30] <Arwen> err......
[11:30] <mike__> firecrotch: where can i find the file?
[11:31] <firecrotch> mike__: /home/username/.kde/share/apps/kopete  (where username is the username you login to Kubuntu with)
[11:31] <klaus_> Arwen: brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2007-05-14 19:16 /dev/scd0 (and i am in group cdrom)
[11:31] <klaus_> Arwen, so, yes i have write perms
[11:31] <Arwen> hmm, well, that was my last shot, I'll be going into my corner now
[11:32] <mike__> do i put that in the terminal?
[11:32] <klaus_> Arwen, ok, thank you ... strange ... dont want do downgrade do edgy, but hope there is an alternative
[11:32] <Daisuke_Ido> mister cracker, i recommend installing the w32 codecs, don't remember the exact package name offhand...
[11:32] <Karti> klaus_: I know I am having trouble but do you have the win32codecs and libdvdcss2
[11:33] <firecrotch> mike__:  No, open the program Konqueror (it's a file manager/web browser) and put it into the address bar
[11:33] <klaus_> Karti, yes i do
[11:33] <klaus_> libdvdcss2 reports read error after successful cracking
[11:33] <Karti> I have had trouble with it as well  but as I am using VMWare from WIndows my DMA doesnt help either
[11:34] <binks> klaus_: have you got libdvdread installed
[11:34] <mike__> firecrotch: it says it does not exsist
[11:34] <firecrotch> mike__: Did you replace "username" with your username?
[11:34] <mike__> yes
[11:34] <klaus_> no libdvdread :-|
[11:35] <klaus_> from which source can i get libdvdread?
[11:35] <firecrotch> mike__:  In the View menu of Konqueror, make sure that "Show hidden files" is checked
[11:35] <PriceChild> !dvd | klaus_
[11:36] <ubotu> klaus_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:36] <klaus_> sorry,
[11:36] <PriceChild> klaus_, use libdvdcss2 (libdvdread isn't really important)
[11:36] <klaus_> havve libdvdread3
[11:36] <klaus_> i have libdvdread3 (no libdvdread)
[11:36] <mike__> firecrotch: nope it still dosent work
[11:36] <klaus_> PriceChild: I use libdvdcss2 and it tolds me it cannot read the dvd (after cracking the key)
[11:37] <mike__> firecrotch: ill be back in 1o minutes or so is that okay?
[11:37] <firecrotch> mike__: I probably won't be here then, but I'm sure someone else will be able to help
[11:37] <mike__> okay thanks firecrotch
[11:38] <firecrotch> mike__: If you can find the file, try renaming it to contactlist.xml.old and then opening Kopete and reconfiguring everything.  That will create a new contactlist.xml file
[11:39] <klaus_> i try the install-sh from dvdread ..
[11:41] <klaus_> still the same error ... libdvdcss says "read error" after cracked the disc key
[11:41] <Solifugus> Any got skype to install?
[11:41] <klaus_> (i used the /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh)
[11:41] <Solifugus> Even the static binary for skype give the error, cannot find libstdc++ (even though it is there)
[11:45] <klaus_> it looks like nobody can help me get libdvdcss2 running on feisty - i have it, it cracks the disc key, but continues with a read-error and nothing works :(
[11:45] <Karti> klaus_: sorry, I just wish that it was added as part of the OS
[11:46] <semistud2354> I recently configured my broadcom router to work with bcm4318-fwcutter...the probem comes when i try to connect to a router...i am able to connect but i cannot see the true strength of the signal it always says 5 stars
[11:47] <semistud2354> im using wireless assistant
[11:48] <semistud2354> sorry i ment to say broadcom wireless card in my laptop
[11:48] <semistud2354> instead of router
[11:48] <semistud2354> any suggestions/help comments??
[11:48] <Sanne> klaus_: I remember reading that using the install-css.sh script is not so good. You could try the medibuntu package which is packaged especially for ubuntu: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[11:50] <klaus_> Sanne, thank you for your Tip. i tried the medibuntu package before i tried the install-cs.sh ... both wont work :(
[11:50] <semistud2354> does that mean i have to reinstall that
[11:50] <semistud2354> err...my os
[11:50] <klaus_> i think this is no windows, so i dont have to reboot, right?
[11:50] <Sanne> klaus_: oh, sad to hear that. Then I'm out of ideas already, sorry.
[11:51] <Sanne> klaus_: after installing the package? No, you shouldn't need that.
[11:51] <Graham> !wma
[11:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:51] <Graham> How can I play wma files in Amarok?
[11:53] <Sanne> klaus_: I guess you already know this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[11:54] <klaus_> Sanne, thanks, yes i do
[11:54] <Sanne> klaus_: thought so
[11:56] <klaus_> so i will downgrade to edgy ... damn why didnt i have a backup ?
[11:56] <Solifugus> The only problem with kubuntu is getting the stinking software you need... and horrible dependency issues..
[11:56] <Solifugus> Event the static binary of skype doesn't work..... on feisty fawn... but it did work on the previous version
[11:59] <Daisuke_Ido> why didn't you get the .deb?
[11:59] <Daisuke_Ido> which installs just fine in feisty
[11:59] <Solifugus> Daisuke_Ido: of course I tried that.. I tried all the packages.. all of them say libstdc++ is missing.
[11:59] <Daisuke_Ido> Solifugus: then you have more serious problems than that o_O
[12:00] <Daisuke_Ido> install build-essential
[12:00] <Solifugus> Daisuke_Ido: it's a fairly fresh feisty fawn install
[12:02] <Solifugus> Daisuke_Ido: I just installed build-essential  -- why?
[12:03] <Sanne> Solifugus: can it be that the error complained about an older version of libstdc++? If so, you might be able to install that. Does that error tell about the version fo the missing libstdc++?
[12:03] <klaus_> bye
[12:03] <Daisuke_Ido> that was libc, nevermind, but the b-e metapackage is useful nonetheless
[12:04] <Daisuke_Ido> can't rely on anything other than 5 or 6
[12:05] <Daisuke_Ido> 2.10 is the only version in the repos that isn't installed, and skyoe installed great
[12:05] <Solifugus> Sanne: Appearantly yes.. Feisty Fawn has 6 and I just followed a tutorial to setup "Automatix" which installed version 5.. and now skype starts..
[12:05] <Dragnslcr> I installed MonoDevelop, and apparently it decided that Firefox would look better as a Gnome app instead of KDE. Anyone know how I can change Firefox back to using KDE's rendering libraries?
[12:06] <Sanne> Solifugus: you won't have needed automatix for that, it's just a normal ubuntu package :)
[12:06] <Daisuke_Ido> automatix...
[12:06] <Daisuke_Ido> when are those guys going to go away and create problems for another OS?
[12:07] <firecrotch> Daisuke_Ido: I dunno, but I hope it's soon :)
[12:07] <Daisuke_Ido> amen
[12:07] <Sanne> !automatix | Solifugus
[12:07] <ubotu> Solifugus: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:08] <Solifugus> Daisuke_Ido and Sanne: Automatix just fixed one issue for me..  It's developed by people mostly in their free time for us, so I'm quite thankful I mostly don't have to chase dependencies by hand.
[12:09] <firecrotch> Solifugus: You're right.  I think the package management differences between distros / difficulty installing things is part of why Linux isn't as widely used
[12:10] <Daisuke_Ido> package management in linux is good (apt)
[12:10] <Daisuke_Ido> however, yes, it could be a lot better.
[12:10] <firecrotch> apt is good, but then you have distros like Fedora and Red Hat that use Yum, Gentoo using Emerge, etc
[12:10] <Daisuke_Ido> i should amend that to "debian-based dictibutions of linux"
[12:10] <Dragnslcr> I kinda wish alien on amd64 could convert an i386 rpm
[12:10] <firecrotch> confuses people who are new to linux
[12:11] <SlimeyPete> you can use apt on most systems these days, if you install it. Obviously you still need to find repositories, though.
[12:11] <Dragnslcr> Luckily I still have an old x86 box running
[12:11] <Solifugus> Sanne and firecrotch: I've been using GNU/Linux since Slackware '97 and I absolutely guarantee that's why GNU/Linux is not more broadly adopted.. And yet.. it's so easy fixable..  Autopackage is they best way, in my opinion..
[12:12] <firecrotch> All distros need to get on the same page, whether it be with apt, Yum, Emerge, .run, etc.  Pick one and everyone use it
[12:12] <Daisuke_Ido> how about the CnR movement?
[12:12] <Daisuke_Ido> think that will gain any momentum?
[12:12] <Lectus> I agree. They all should use just one package manager that works well.
[12:12] <firecrotch> CnR is an alright option.  Good for former windows users because it's pretty much the same as using .exe files
[12:12] <Lectus> More standard would bring more people to Linux
[12:13] <Daisuke_Ido> firecrotch: we're talking about freespire's click and run, right?
[12:13] <Solifugus> Sanne and firecrotch: The idea of having a different package hierarchy for every version of every distro is just insane...  and inspite of what many developers say.. it can be done in a non-conflicting manner.
[12:14] <firecrotch> Daisuke_Ido: yes
[12:14] <Daisuke_Ido> how does that correspond to exes?
[12:14] <Sanne> I prefer to have most software prepared by my distro. I wouldn't want to install lots of 3rd party software all over the place. It might be easier if it was more like windows, but I can just go without the mess windows like isntallers would create in my system directories.
[12:15] <Daisuke_Ido> maybe i don't know enough about it, but i thought it was a package management system similar to apt, with a friendly interface and ability to purchase commercial software
[12:15] <firecrotch> Daisuke_Ido: from what I understand, it's quite similar to how Windows does things.  You download the exe file, double click it to install, and then run the resulting program
[12:15] <Dragnslcr> What's the "correct" way to add an item to the KMenu that has to run as a superuser? Use "kdesu program" for the command or set it to run as root?
[12:15] <Daisuke_Ido> Dragnslcr: i would imagine both would have the same effect