[12:02] <feugan3333> CarCase928: Rather don't manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.config. Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:02] <mateus> e dont speak portuguese
[12:02] <weswh-> CarCase928: you definitely want to figure out what model your card is first though
[12:02] <atiloko> mateus este ubuntun   timo
[12:02] <devin_> I want to add my /home to a seprate drive! How should I partition the 2nd drive, and what should i add to fstab?
[12:02] <aluno_> hello
[12:02] <crisp> heh
[12:03] <CarCase928> weswh: how do i identify the card?
[12:03] <xipietotec> Is there some way to find out the most recently installed programs in ubuntu? I recently installed something that filters out questionable IP's (for filesharing) and I think it's blocking sourceforge servers, due to probably my misconfiguration...but I don't remember the name of the program
[12:04] <ailean> did i hear somewhere that ubuntu can handle rpms?
[12:04] <art_> leave #ubuntu
[12:04] <weswh-> CarCase928: lspci tells me precisely what my card is. otherwise, take it out and look for a model or part number or something. if you are lucky there is a clearly identified sticker on it...otherwise, look up the computer model etc. if the card came with it
[12:04] <Twinxor> ailean: yeah, use the package 'alien'
[12:04] <xipietotec> ailean: Yes...but it can break things, you're thinking about alien
[12:04] <Twinxor> (do not actually do this)
[12:04] <beibei> can anyone help with my CREATIVE ZEN VISION:M device?
[12:04] <weswh-> feugan3333: any linux forums you would reccommend posting the results of our expirements to?
[12:05] <lymz> ahaller: did you get my message?
[12:05] <feugan3333> weswh-: Not sure, www.linuxquestions.org ?
[12:05] <ailean> okay, i want to install anti-virus and i use AVG on windows. there is a linux version in rpm form - should i use it or is there an alternative?
[12:05] <Root-of-all-evil> ich hase ubuntu und auch gnome
[12:05] <Root-of-all-evil> :P
[12:05] <lymz> ahaller: thanks for the link, gsfonts and gsfont-x11 worked for me
[12:06] <mnoir> !de
[12:06] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:06] <hydrox> Hey, I'm having a bit of a problem,
[12:06] <weswh-> ailean: virus protection in that sense isn't really a big thing in linux.
[12:06] <mindtrick_> are universal repositories slow now? i can't download over 14kb/s
[12:06] <lupine_85> I think avast or avg have linux clients
[12:06] <lupine_85> not really needed though
[12:06] <ailean> anti-virus is needed
[12:06] <hydrox> When I maximize windows in gnome it maximizes over the panels
[12:07] <mnoir> weswh-: but it certainly should be
[12:07] <feugan3333> weswh-: If you have linux-sources installed read /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15/Documentation/filesystems/hfs.txt
[12:07] <weswh-> ailean: maybe i'm just in the dark, but i don't even know of a so-called "anti virus" app for linux. avg for linux? ok..fair enough. guess i'll look into it for myself.
[12:07] <mobile> hello, plz help me i want to compile the madwifi on my home made kernel... it doesnt work...
[12:07] <CarCase928> weswh (or anyone else): where do i find the driver for "VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51G [GeForce 6100]  (rev a2)"
[12:07] <jb0nd38372> Could someone help me with a permission problem when time permits?  Least I think its a permission problem
[12:07] <lupine_85> there's also amavis but that's for email
[12:07] <mnoir> clamav is an antivirus app for linux
[12:07] <ailean> mnoir, any good?
[12:07] <mnoir> lots of folks think so
[12:08] <ailean> beibei 2 mins
[12:08] <mnoir> i run it on my firewall machine
[12:08] <ailean> beibei, http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/
[12:08] <weswh-> feugan3333: apt-get install linux-sources? i can't find it with apt-cache
[12:09] <lupine_85> !info linux-source
[12:09] <ubotu> linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[12:09] <lupine_85> -s
[12:09] <julianx> i'm going for sleep because i'm tired
[12:09] <julianx> bye all
[12:09] <CarCase928> where do i find the driver for "VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51G [GeForce 6100]  (rev a2)" ? it's a graphics/video card.
[12:09] <CarCase928> the card is built into the moterboard
[12:10] <feugan3333> weswh-: err sorry linux-source. It's rather big (kernel sources). Is there some way I could send your the hfs.txt file
[12:10] <cafuego_> CarCase928: 'nvidia-glx' and 'linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)'
[12:10] <FunnyMan3595> ailean: AVG does have a linux version, but compared to Windows, linux is 99% virus free.  Windows has major security problems that make an antivirus an absolute necessity, but under Linux, you don't really need one, as long as you're careful.
[12:10] <feugan3333> CarCase928: Thats fine. Follow the instructions on the link I gave you.
[12:11] <feugan3333> CarCase928: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[12:11] <CarCase928> feguan3333: can you tell me the link again?
[12:11] <CarCase928> ok, thanks
[12:11] <d1gital> i was here earlier and someone gave me a link to a site about making your own ubuntu livecds, does anyone have that link?
[12:11] <jpiccolo> anyone know if you can use two disk controller cards on one system?
[12:12] <cafuego_> jpiccolo: of course you can
[12:12] <mnoir> FunnyMan3595: part of being careful is using reliable av software
[12:12] <jb0nd38372> Anyone have any knowledge with kiba dock?  I have a permission problem I think
[12:12] <d1gital> jbond: what is the problem?
[12:12] <xipietotec> Is there some way to find out the most recently installed programs in ubuntu? I recently installed something that filters out questionable IP's (for filesharing) and I think it's blocking sourceforge servers, due to probably my misconfiguration...but I don't remember the name of the program
[12:12] <jpiccolo> cafuego, i would be able to get into both of the cards bios?
[12:12] <xipietotec> it's not in synaptic
[12:13] <Xen> Dnde est la terminal?
[12:13] <mnoir> !sp
[12:13] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-47 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 564 kB
[12:13] <cafuego_> jpiccolo: depends a bit on the card, but their bios override message should show up sequentially during bootup
[12:13] <mnoir> !es
[12:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:13] <xipietotec> nevermind!
[12:13] <jpiccolo> cafuego, ok cool
[12:13] <xipietotec> I remember it now
[12:13] <zac1> !makefile
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about makefile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:14] <jb0nd38372> d1gital:  I installed Kiba, and it compiled and runs fine,. but I cant get icons to stay on the dock, when I drag an icon I get this  error when running from term "** Message: Cant copy /usr/share/applications/gimp-2.2.desktop to /home/jb0nd38372/.kiba-dock/gimp-2.2.desktop"
[12:14] <weswh-> CarCase928: backup your xorg.config file before you run that nvidia config -enable or whatever it is.
[12:14] <CarCase928> weswh: ok
[12:14] <FunnyMan3595> mnoir: Not really.  As long as you don't go around installing things from fishy sources, you should be alright.  Linux doesn't really have the problem of viruses that install themselves without you knowing.  And when something like that does show up, it gets fixed before it can become a problem.  Just remember to keep your software up-to-date, so that you don't fall afoul of an old security hole.
[12:14] <weswh-> CarCase928: i didn't have great luck with that util but ymmv
[12:14] <d1gital> jbond: try running it using sudo  and see if it says the same thing
[12:15] <zac1> how do you make a makefile from makefile.in and makefile.am
[12:15] <lupine_85> zac1: automake and autoconf and friends
[12:15] <lupine_85> usually ./autogen.sh
[12:15] <devin_> I want to add my /home to a seprate drive! How should I partition the 2nd drive, and what should i add to fstab?
[12:15] <FunnyMan3595> mnoir: And if you're installing fishy software, you should be using a dummy account anyway.  One that's not on the wheel and doesn't hold any important data.
[12:16] <mnoir> FunnyMan3595: NO.   Besides the threat from newly developed virii, there is the matter of passing on things to others.  Not acceptable
[12:16] <blatios_> 'lo all
[12:16] <jb0nd38372> d1gital:  No sudo lets it run without incident... I tried chown to make it work.. but either I did it wrong or something
[12:16] <feugan3333> devin_: Do you have another OS that need to access the drive. Cause that complicates matters
[12:16] <FunnyMan3595> mnoir: If it's newly-developed, the antivirus won't help!
[12:16] <LjL> uhm... when a run of fsck (-f -v options) gives a "file system was modified" in caps, it means it has corrected errors, right?
[12:17] <lupine_85> mnoir: right now, there isn't a /single/ virus in the wild for linux. that might change in the future, but right now rootkits and exploits are the more realistic threat
[12:17] <czer323> Look'n for some direction with this error.  Using only CLI.  ifup eth0 returns "ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0".  I've read online about checking the /etc/network/interfaces file, but i'm not sure what i'm looking for.
[12:17] <blatios_> glxinfo gives me lots of "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0""
[12:17] <devin_> feugan3333 no, I just have a blank drive i would like to you for /home
[12:17] <FunnyMan3595> LjL: Sounds more like you're trying to fsck a running system.
[12:17] <h0ndaracer2> hello this is my first time on ubuntu channel
[12:17] <blatios_> czer323, You need to add eth0 to the file
[12:17] <mnoir> FunnyMan3595: in some cases you are correct, but still, the need for ubiquitous filtering trumps that lessened risk that linux presents
[12:17] <feugan3333> There are viruses for linux. Google it
[12:18] <mince> !tcl
[12:18] <mobile> plz plz help me. i want to compile the madwifi driver on my home made driver
[12:18] <Flitting> somoe vary here know a one chennel in spanish what is the adress
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tcl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <LjL> FunnyMan3595: actually, i'm quite sure it's unmounted
[12:18] <jb0nd38372> d1gital: I know its probally something i'm missing somehow
[12:18] <Music_Shuffle> !hi | h0ndaracer2
[12:18] <ubotu> h0ndaracer2: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:18] <mnoir> !es
[12:18] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:18] <czer323> blatios_, can you be any more specific?  perhaps a line that i need to add.
[12:18] <mince> how can I simply install tcl?
[12:18] <Flitting> gracias
[12:18] <mnoir> de nada
[12:18] <mnoir> :)
[12:18] <h0ndaracer2> ok ive recently installed ubuntu uninstalled stuff i didnt want and installed stuff i liked now whats sometin i can learn or do
[12:18] <feugan3333> devin_: Ok. I suggest ext3 filesystem. The default. Are you doing a new install or just adding the drive to an existing system
[12:18] <czer323> blatios_, I've added "iface eth0 inet dhcp" and that didn't quite do the trick.
[12:18] <FunnyMan3595> LjL: Ah, got it.
[12:19] <d1gital> jbond:   you probably mistyped something when chowning  if you are the only user of the system, then just give full rwx access to both of those folders
[12:19] <d1gital> !chown
[12:19] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:19] <FunnyMan3595> LjL: If errors are found, youll see the message FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED. zSB(3,3)  Run the File System Check command again until all errors are repaired  (http://macs.about.com/od/osx/a/running_fsck.htm)
[12:19] <blatios_> czer323, one moment
[12:19] <FunnyMan3595> LjL Sorry about the junk in the middle there, not sure where that came from.
[12:19] <LjL> mince: what about sudo apt-get install tcl8.0 ?
[12:19] <czer323> blatios_, sure thing, I'll just be searching around google.
[12:20] <devin_> feugan3333 just adding drive to existing system
[12:20] <blatios_> czer323, using dhcp?
[12:20] <weswh-> feugan3333: how can i get info on exactly which kernel, and which version of kde my system is running? (default edgy install)
[12:20] <ailean> ubotu, tell beibei about wine
[12:20] <czer323> blatios_, yeah, I'd like to use dhcp.  keeps things simple.
[12:20] <blatios_> czer323, auto eth0
[12:20] <jb0nd38372> d1gital:  So the command would be for me !chown /usr/bin/kiba-dock ?  or am I missing something, the file that starts it is /usr/bin/kiba-dock
[12:20] <h0ndaracer2> how do i delete those files in the documents it says i cant delete tehm
[12:20] <blatios_> czer323, iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:20] <LjL> FunnyMan3595: well, what i got was slightly different. actually, what i'm doing is making sure the defrag program is not corrupting things. you can see the log of the whole thing at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36729/
[12:21] <ailean> !wine | beibei
[12:21] <ubotu> beibei: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:21] <feugan3333> weswh-: 'uname -r' will give you the kernel version
[12:21] <Moosejaw> hi guys...
[12:21] <h0ndaracer2> the examples i should say
[12:21] <blatios_> czer323, Substitute eth0 with whatever interface you're trying to add
[12:21] <jb0nd38372> Sorry for being ignorant, linux is a wee bity different than windows but i'm trying :)
[12:21] <Moosejaw> i am trying to install a *.bin and I am getting this error:
[12:21] <Moosejaw> grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:21] <Moosejaw> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java: error while loading shared libraries: libpthread.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:21] <d1gital> jbond: try this:   chmod +rwx /usr/share/applications/
[12:21] <Moosejaw> can someone help me out
[12:21] <FunnyMan3595> jb0nd38372: Don't worry about it, we're all green at the start.
[12:21] <feugan3333> weswh-: kde should be somewhere where you can find an about button, otherwize apt-cache
[12:21] <blatios_> Mook, You're missing some essential system libraires
[12:22] <blatios_> Moosejaw, *
[12:22] <Moosejaw> how do i dload them
[12:22] <Moosejaw> :)
[12:22] <Moosejaw> well...i should ask...what libraries?
[12:22] <aristoteles> hallo
[12:22] <blatios_> Does anyone know why glxinfo tells me GLX extension is missing even though I'm loading it in xorg.conf
[12:22] <mnoir> jb0nd38372: one command you should learn is man as in man <somecommand>   - this gives you access to basic doc
[12:22] <jb0nd38372> d1gital: K ran that, returned me to the prompt with no output
[12:22] <babis85> is there anyway through which i can communicate via console between two computers in the same network?
[12:22] <aristoteles> has anyone installed OOo2.1?
[12:23] <feugan3333> devin_: Do you know the drive's device name? eg /etc/sda1 ?
[12:23] <blatios_> babis85, ssh
[12:23] <d1gital> jbond:  give kiba another try without sudo and tell me if it says the same thing
[12:23] <aristoteles> how do you start it?
[12:23] <blatios_> czer323, Any luck?
[12:23] <aristoteles> i just installed it, but how do i start it?
[12:23] <Moosejaw> blatios_: what libraries should i dload?
[12:23] <mnoir> babis85: there is a primitive cluent called 'talk'
[12:23] <blatios_> Moosejaw, The thing is, that should already be installed
[12:23] <babis85> blatios_: does ssh provide communication in messages?
[12:23] <mnoir> client*
[12:23] <czer323> blatios_, not quite ;) I had restarted the computer a moment ago to see if it'd help.  it's still com'n back up.
[12:23] <jb0nd38372> d1gital: yes... did the same thing w/o running sudo... dock / with no icons... and a string of the same messages, each one appears to be for what would be icons... "** Message: Cant copy /usr/share/applications/background.desktop to /home/jb0nd38372/.kiba-dock/background.desktop"
[12:23] <FunnyMan3595> LjL: Looking at the log.
[12:24] <babis85> mnoir: i know but it doesn't work
[12:24] <Moosejaw> hrm...
[12:24] <devin_> feugan3333 I believe its /hda3
[12:24] <blatios_> babis85, I'm not quite sure what it is that you need, ssh lets you login and remotely controle another computer through the command line
[12:24] <zac1> !make
[12:24] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:24] <mnoir> doesnt work - meaning it is on the dole?
[12:24] <Moosejaw> when i installed java or just in general?
[12:24] <d1gital> jbond: okay, well are you using gnome?
[12:24] <babis85> mnoir: i want to "chat" through console"
[12:24] <blatios_> Moosejaw, In general
[12:24] <Moosejaw> weird.
[12:25] <Moosejaw> what can i do than? nothing?
[12:25] <babis85> blatios_: i want to chat through console
[12:25] <blatios_> Moosejaw, Try "locate libc.so"
[12:25] <LjL> FunnyMan3595: i'll be back in a minute - that was a root filesystem, so i'm rebooting (now i'm from a CD) and seeing which error Grub gives me ;-)
[12:25] <mnoir> Talk is a visual communication program which copies lines from your terminal
[12:25] <mnoir> to that of another user.
[12:25] <jb0nd38372> <d1gital: Yes, Just noticed, looked under Natulas... the directory .kiba-dock appears to have a lock on it
[12:25] <blatios_> babis85, There are IRC clients that use the command line
[12:25] <jb0nd38372> its a hidden directory Hidden  in my home folder
[12:25] <babis85> mnoir: i write talk user@hostanme, but it says connection refused, i guess that it doesn't find the network
[12:26] <feugan3333> devin_: Use 'sudo fdisk -l'  to make VERY sure. Then 'sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda3' or whatever
[12:26] <mnoir> well have you installed talkd?
[12:26] <Moosejaw> blatios_ its there
[12:26] <lupine_85> jb0nd38372: sudo chown -R jb0nd28272:jb0nd28272 ~/.kiba-dock
[12:26] <d1gital> jbond:  thats odd... well try this then:  chmod +rwx /home/jb0nd38372/.kiba-dock/
[12:26] <zac1> !mp3
[12:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:26] <zac1> !mov
[12:26] <babis85> mnoir: i have
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mov - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <blatios_> Mook, Hmm..
[12:26] <jb0nd38372> ok..  :) thanks guys
[12:26] <mnoir> and it is running?
[12:27] <Moosejaw> blatios_ whats the best command to run a *.bin?
[12:27] <devin_> feugan3333 alright thanks man
[12:27] <blatios_> Mook, ./binfile
[12:27] <babis85> mnoir: right, i don't know, i guess i have to start it through init.d directory?
[12:27] <blatios_> Moosejaw, You'll have to chmod it first
[12:28] <mnoir> I would start with ps auxwww|grep talkd
[12:28] <d1gital> jbond:  so its working now?
[12:28] <blatios_> Moosejaw, chmod a+x binfile    <-  gives all users the abiolity to run the binfile
[12:28] <czer323> blatios_, Well, i haven't seen the message again, but i'm still not able to get an ip using dhcp.
[12:28] <webben> is the ubuntu beryl repository for edgy bust atm or is that just me?
[12:28] <Moosejaw>  getting the same error
[12:28] <blatios_> czer323, Are you sure that you'
[12:29] <Moosejaw> when i install
[12:29] <blatios_> re using the right device
[12:29] <jb0nd38372> dlgital one second.. lost terminal;
[12:29] <babis85> mnoir: it is running
[12:29] <d1gital> webben:  the official one doesnt work for me either, however beryl can be found on this one as well:  deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main
[12:30] <jb0nd38372> dlgital: tried it, went back to prompt without error.. but kiba still does the same thing
[12:30] <blatios_> czer323, I have to go, maybe you're simply using the wrong interface name
[12:30] <art_> quit
[12:30] <kane77> hi
[12:30] <czer323> blatios_, Yep.  This was working, and occasionally works on it's own for some reason.  I haven't quite pinpointed the issue.  eth0 is the only card that I have.  and it's the only one that shows in ifconfig.
[12:30] <aristoteles> is there anyone here how has openoffice2.1 installed?
[12:30] <czer323> blatios_, it's cool.  i'll figure it out eventually.  thanks for the help though.
[12:30] <blatios_> Moosejaw, I have to go, I think it's a problem with the path, hope that helps
[12:30] <kane77> how do I create partition on my usb flash drive?
[12:30] <mnoir> I do not remember if you need talkd on both ends - wait a sec
[12:30] <Moosejaw> k
[12:30] <NamelessJon> I have a question about the boot order, if anyone knows. At what point in the startup sequence are the drive UUID symlinks added to /dev/disk/by-UUID?
[12:31] <d1gital> jbond:  ok this has to work then...    System>Preferences>Sessions>Startup Programs>Add>"gksudo kiba-dock"  (without the quotes)
[12:31] <zac1> !micro
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about micro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <devin_> feugan3333 what should i name the partition/ and exactly how? with an kubuntu disk or fdisk?
[12:31] <zac1> !windows
[12:31] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
 I tried the command that you pasted and got "chown: `jb0nd28272': invalid user" even though thats my login name
[12:31] <LjL> zac1: you really find that funny, don't you?
[12:32] <babis85> mnoir: talkd is running at both systems
[12:32] <zac1> i dont know
[12:32] <ReWT_AxS> Any ideas?
[12:32] <ReWT_AxS> im getting error:   Internal Error Failed to Initialize HAL!
[12:32] <lupine_85> jb0nd38372: sorry, 3 not 2 :)
[12:32] <feugan3333> devin_: Did you create an ext3 partition successfully?
[12:32] <LjL> zac1: then what about stopping? not banned enough times yet?
[12:32] <mnoir> I am getting connection refused too - I dunno what is filtering it...
[12:32] <zac1> no
[12:32] <jb0nd38372> Doh.. I even missed it... trying that
[12:32] <FunnyMan3595> LjL: Welcome back.  Missed your reconnect.
[12:32] <LjL> FunnyMan3595: i was out smoking while it rebooted anyway ;-)
[12:33] <Music_Shuffle> Lol
[12:33] <FunnyMan3595> LjL: Is the filesystem ext2 or ext3?
[12:33] <LjL> FunnyMan3595: ext3
[12:33] <zim> hi all
[12:33] <LjL> FunnyMan3595: and before you ask... i'm testing an experimental version of defrag that was patched to run with ext3
[12:33] <devin_> feugan3333 wasn't sure what to use to create it n00b<
[12:33] <zim> got a Q for someone who is goo with sound
[12:33] <linuxpoet> Why is sendmail rewriting my domains when it sends email even though I have explictly told it to not masquerade? This is dapper LTS
[12:34] <zim> goo = good sorry
[12:34] <weswh-> feugan3333: ok, reading over that HFS stuff - does that tell me anywhere to go? like i said, i don't care if the drive never works for mac again, I am going to format it once I get the data off of it.
[12:34] <tim167> how can I make an installable dvd of my entire ubuntu intallation ?
[12:34] <shwag> how do I show all the files installed for a package ?
[12:34] <jb0nd38372> Dlgital, Lupine, it worked... thanks so much, I really appreicate it
[12:34] <FunnyMan3595> LjL: Okay, then my guess is that e2defrag isn't quite getting the journalling right, since the data itself checks out in the md5.
[12:34] <jb0nd38372> I want to try and learn cl rather than gui ways of doing things... I hope one day I can learn C and even do a lil development
[12:34] <shwag> LjL: dont use e2defrag
[12:34] <zim> I have a sony vaio  tr1mp and need to get sound working any one out there HELP
[12:35] <LjL> shwag: ?
[12:35] <feugan3333> devin_: Did you run the command I gave you, the mkfs.ext3 ?
[12:35] <shwag> LjL: no need
[12:35] <webben> d1gital, that /is/ the rep I'm using
[12:35] <FunnyMan3595> jbond: Personally, I'd avoid C like the plague, especially if it'd be your first language.
[12:35] <shwag> LjL: linux manages its own defragmentation
[12:35] <LjL> FunnyMan3595: well, yes, if you look, the only difference is in the ls diff, which shows a date change for / ... perhaps defrag did that for some reason, and didn't reflect it in the journal?
[12:35] <LjL> shwag: if it really did, nobody would have written defrag
[12:36] <kane77> I'm trying to create a partition on my usb flash disk.. what are the START/END parameters??
[12:36] <feugan3333> weswh-: Man, why are you trying to chmod when you just want to copy the files?
[12:36] <tim167> zim: what program do you need to have sound ?
[12:36] <devin_> feugan3333 brb
[12:36] <zim> all
[12:36] <zim> I have no sound
[12:36] <d1gital> webben: ...  ohh yeah ya know what you're right cuz i needed an update today and it couldn't retrieve it...   nope guess its borked right now
[12:36] <FunnyMan3595> LjL: Keep in mind that the journalling info is separate from the data itself, so it won't show up in standard examination.
[12:36] <jb0nd38372> Funnyman:  What would you reccomend starting out with, I used basic back in the days of msdos.. but never took progamming serious... then got lazy with windows.. now ubuntu / linux has sparked my interest
[12:36] <LjL> shwag: and anyway, under artificial conditions (i.e. a partition i created and wrote files like mad to), i found a quite important performance improvement
[12:36] <tim167> zim: some programs make sound through jack
[12:36] <agent> a data dvd i received is being mounted with wrong permissions... doing mount -o with correct options does not seem to do anything - all other media mount correctly... whats wrong?
[12:37] <shwag> LjL: well, okay, suit yourself.
[12:37] <LjL> FunnyMan3595: well, if you look at the fsck run that's complaining, it does mention the journal (while the others don't)
[12:37] <shwag> jb0nd38372: ruby
[12:37] <tim167> zim: did you try alsamixer ?
[12:37] <shwag> jb0nd38372: python is good.  php is easy, but sucks in the long run.  ruby is awesome.
[12:37] <sindrum> any ideas which directory is the system sounds stored in?
[12:37] <webben> d1gital, ah okay, thanks :)
[12:37] <zim> tim167 no you are missing the point my sound car needs drivers/conf/somthing to work
[12:38] <zim> no sound
[12:38] <FunnyMan3595> LjL: And shwag is somewhat correct, ext3 is fragmentation-resistant.  You don't really need to defrag under normal conditions, but as you pointed out, there are exceptions.
[12:38] <feugan3333> weswh-: Do you get errors when you copy the files as root?
[12:38] <tim167> zim: what soundcard? internal? usb ?
[12:38] <LjL> shwag: i certainly will, especially when, as i said, all i'm doing is *testing* an experimental patch that an ubuntu developer kindly devoted his time to. see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35993/ for the artificial-partition logs
[12:38] <NamelessJon> Ruby is awesome. I never used python much though
[12:38] <zim> internal laptop
[12:38] <FunnyMan3595> LjL: Right.  Basically, it's bringing the journal back up-to-date with the actual filesystem contents.
[12:38] <shwag> LjL: linux manages fragmentation as long as there is 15% free space.
[12:38] <_SKiTZO> hi! I have struggled a while to get wifi working. I have a HP dv2004 laptop, and it seems that I will need to use ndiswrapper. I followed several forum threads on the subject, but I cant seem to get it to work
[12:38] <zim> sony vaio tr1mp
[12:38] <_SKiTZO> anyone care to help me?
[12:39] <jb0nd38372> Thanks  I'll go check out ruby :)
[12:39] <tim167> zim: hm not sure, maybe lspci shows you what type of soundcard your vayo has
[12:39] <kane77> 'doh... can anybody help?
[12:40] <Music_Shuffle> with?
[12:40] <FunnyMan3595> LjL: What you really need to do is find a way to examine the journal before and after, so that you can figure out what the defrag is messing up.
[12:40] <zim> AC'97 Audio Controller
[12:40] <x06vh> How, if possible, do I create a DOS bootable floppy in Ubuntu?
[12:41] <agent> _SKiTZO: your best bet is to find out your exact network card chipset make and type.. this is not the information you get in your manual or box (that just says who boxed your card and put their company stamp on it)... once you find out the chipset, THEN search the forum, google, etc. for that specific chipset/card
[12:41] <sindrum> any ideas which directory is the system sounds stored in?
[12:41] <tim167> zim: hm strance I have " AC'97 Modem Controller"
[12:41] <LjL> FunnyMan3595: no idea how to do that honestly... also, perhaps i won't be able to reproduce this again, at least until i give my fs a bit of fragmentation again ;)
[12:41] <kane77> Music_Shuffle, partitioning my usb drive
[12:41] <_SKiTZO> agent: good call
[12:41] <tim167> zim, no you're right, my soundcard is also AC'97
[12:41] <MrProper_> can anyone tell me how i apt-get install a specific version of a package (ie an older one then is currently available
[12:41] <_SKiTZO> agent: how would I do that? rip the lid off?
[12:41] <zim>  Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[12:41] <weswh-> feugan3333: it just says "omiting folder", and stops.
[12:41] <LjL> MrProper_: sudo apt-get install packagename=version
[12:42] <agent> _SKiTZO: to do this, connect your network card to the computer and type: lspci THEN type lspci -vv for more info THEN type sudo lshw
[12:42] <green_earz> zim: to find out what the driver name is for sound card check out > http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[12:42] <weswh-> or in kdesu konqueror (drag and drop copy), it says "files do not exist"
[12:42] <feugan3333> weswh-: Show me the command you used?
[12:42] <arrenlex> MrProper_: A single package? apt-get install package/version.
[12:42] <zim> green_earz will do ty
[12:42] <MrProper_> LjL, cool, any way to list what package versions are available?
[12:42] <FunnyMan3595> LjL: In that case, I'd just write back to the maintainer and give them your log.  *e should at least know a way to debug it.
[12:42] <green_earz> np
[12:42] <zim> ty tim167 to
[12:42] <LjL> MrProper_: apt-cache policy packagename
[12:42] <agent> _SKiTZO: ripping the lid off usually will not help you as a company will just stamp their logo to make it look like they actually create the card and chipset
[12:42] <weswh-> feugan3333: (as root) cp /media/firewire/Users/wes/Music/windows /home/wes/music/windows
[12:43] <LjL> FunnyMan3595: sure, i'll certainly do that. i'll just wait until he's back on irc though i guess ;)
[12:43] <cld2> what do I need to install to get gcc to work for 6.10?
[12:43] <d1gital> i was here earlier and someone gave me a link to a site about making your own ubuntu livecds, does anyone have that link?]
[12:43] <LjL> Ubotu, tell cld2 about build-essential | cld2, see the private message from Ubotu
[12:43] <cld2> LjL: thanks.
[12:43] <weswh-> cp: omitting directory `/media/firewire/Users/wes/Music/windows'
[12:43] <yoshig3> Anyone ever run Steam through wine on ubuntu?
[12:43] <feugan3333> weswh-: Thats a normal warning, you need to use the -R flag to copy directories "cp -vR /media/firewire/Users/wes/Music/windows /home/wes/music/windows"
[12:44] <agent> _SKiTZO: a lot of the time two brands, one no name and one well known will be actually selling the exact same card but one will be MUCH cheapter than the other
[12:44] <babis85> mnoir: i tried to add to /etc/hosts a line that associates the hostname with the local ip adress, but it did nothing
[12:44] <mike> I would like to change my apt sources to local mirrors,What is an easy way please
[12:44] <agent> weswh-: you need to pass -f option to cp so that it copies directories (if you want to do that)
[12:44] <FunnyMan3595> d1gital: Let me take a look and see if I can find a site for you...
[12:44] <feugan3333> agent: not -f, -R
[12:44] <_SKiTZO> agent: i identified my card pretty well with lspci -vv | grep -i -A 30 broadcom
[12:45] <agent> feugan3333: okay.... so its -r, whatever... i usually just type -rf and its fine
[12:45] <_SKiTZO> it says BCM4310 rev01
[12:45] <FunnyMan3595> d1gital: Are you just looking for how to burn one of the original livecds, or do you actually want to change what goes into it?
[12:45] <weswh-> feugan3333: seems to be working!
[12:45] <_SKiTZO> subsystem: hp unknown device 1361
[12:45] <klotho> hello... does anyone know how to get the wireless card to work in an IBM T-series? It loads the driver but the card always shows as "disabled"
[12:45] <feugan3333> weswh-: Man, all this for nothing :-)
[12:46] <d1gital> funnyman:  i want to change it
[12:46] <weswh-> feugan3333: tell me about it! haha. what do you want for christmas ;)
[12:46] <klotho> also, how do I get the file browser's search function to search all subdirectories?
[12:46] <zim> green_earz the sound driver shoul be snd-intel8x0,i810_audio
[12:46] <feugan3333> weswh-: Cofee
[12:46] <mnoir> babis85: try this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1398433#post1398433 - I am trying it now
[12:46] <DekKeD> any idea how to edit an IMG file?
[12:46] <agent> _SKiTZO: there you go, not go do a search on ubuntuforums for BCM4310, then try the wiki, then google, then ask here.... you usually want to ask here last as the chances are low someone here reading has and knows they have that exact card
[12:46] <mnoir> babis85: are you 6.06 or 6.10
[12:46] <mnoir> ?
[12:47] <_SKiTZO> agent: but i allready did that
[12:47] <weswh-> yeah? my gf works at starbucks, our pantry runneth over. e-mail me an address and i'll work it out
[12:47] <babis85> 6.06
[12:47] <mnoir> that one is for 6.06
[12:47] <babis85> cool
[12:47] <mnoir> good - might work :)
[12:47] <_SKiTZO> i allready followed several forum posts on BCM4310
[12:47] <agent> klotho: thinkpads should work without any help - make sure you enable your network card in network manager (if you use gnome)
[12:47] <feugan3333> weswh-: Going to sleep, good luck
[12:47] <agent> _SKiTZO: okay, then ask away :)
[12:48] <weswh-> feugan3333: thanks much. it was still educational, so not in vain :)
[12:48] <feugan3333> weswh-: True, true.
[12:48] <BlueLaguna> how can I get info about a specific disk?
[12:48] <SJr|Work> Anyone know of a good really intrusive proxy that I can use to log a session heavily
[12:48] <klotho> agent: I thought that would be the case, but when I enable the card it still shows as disabled in lshw
[12:49] <BlueLaguna> I have multiple drives under /dev/sda*, but I'm trying to identify which one's which
[12:49] <arrenlex> BlueLaguna: what kind of "info"? Like what partitions it has? sudo fdisk -l. Like, where it is mounted? "mount". Like, its free space? "df"
[12:49] <BlueLaguna> arrenlex: see my last statement
[12:49] <olrrai_> hi guys
[12:49] <agent> klotho: i did not know lshw shows that enabled/disabled status... maybe you mean ifconfig or iwconfig?
[12:49] <olrrai_> do u know what package I need to run xf86config ?
[12:49] <DekKeD> any idea how to edit an IMG file?
[12:49] <arrenlex> BlueLaguna: What information will help you identify which one's which? Partition type? Mount points? Size?
[12:49] <FunnyMan3595> d1gital: Here's an official page on Dapper.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06
[12:50] <kittyhawk> hello
[12:50] <babis85> mnoir: how is it going?
[12:50] <agent> _SKiTZO: i just searched google/linux and had good sucess with information
[12:50] <kittyhawk> I just did a dist-upgrade and now X doesn't work
[12:50] <agent> _SKiTZO: www.google.com/linux
[12:50] <BlueLaguna> arrenlex: actually, fdisk -l seems to do the trick
[12:50] <arrenlex> kittyhawk: sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core
[12:50] <mnoir> almost there :)
[12:50] <klotho> agent: lshw says -  *-network:0 DISABLED
[12:50] <agent> _SKiTZO: search for BCM4310
[12:50] <kittyhawk> arrenlex: thanks, I'll try that
[12:50] <d1gital> funnyman:  thanks.  too bad i'm using edgy... darn
[12:51] <FunnyMan3595> d1gital: Yeah, looks like the equivalent page for edgy hasn't been written yet.
[12:51] <agent> klotho: neat... never noticed that before - what about ifconfig and iwconfig?
[12:51] <FunnyMan3595> d1gital: Still, a lot of the info there may still apply.
[12:51] <olrrai_> do u know what package I need to run xf86config ?
[12:51] <cafuego_> you don't run xf86config
[12:51] <olrrai_> (sorry my disturb)
[12:51] <FunnyMan3595> d1gital: Maybe you could write the edgy guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e10.  :)
[12:51] <cafuego_> you run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[12:52] <olrrai_> oh, thanks
[12:52] <mnoir> babis85: it is working on 1 single sys
[12:52] <d1gital> funnyman:  yeah, from what it looks like, i am guessing what they mean by dapper-specific is that they use 6.06 where edgy would be 6.10
[12:52] <klotho> agent: iwconfig says: wlan0     no wireless extensions
[12:52] <mnoir> you need to install xinetd per that link
[12:52] <lasse> hi.  My Marvell Yukon Ethernet connection isnt recognized by Ubuntu 6.10. I've been googling this a bit, but i cant seem to find any answers there. Could someone please help me?
[12:52] <d1gital> if i am successful, i will write one for edgy
[12:52] <mnoir> I do not hv snd sys done yet
[12:52] <mnoir> snd=2nd
[12:52] <BlueLaguna> hmm, do /dev/sda and /dev/sda1 refer to the same drive?
[12:53] <FunnyMan3595> d1gital: Right, so things may have moved around a bit.  Still, it's a starting point.
[12:53] <arrenlex> BlueLaguna: /dev/sda is the first hard drive. /dev/sda1 is the first partition on that drive.
[12:53] <green_earz> zim: i am a debian user so should be very simular setup to config sound. see if the command sudo alsaconf    dose any thing
[12:53] <klotho> agent:  ifconfig doesn't show it at all
[12:53] <d1gital> funnyman:  wait, so can i just build a dapper cd or does taht mean i have to actually be using dapper to make it?
[12:54] <arrenlex> green_earz: That command doesn't exist in the ubuntu packages.
[12:54] <green_earz> OK thanks
[12:54] <blue-phuz> hello all can some one tell me how to fix a screen corruption problem on my laptops gf4 mx 420 using ubuntu 6.10 and the latest nvidia glx
[12:54] <klotho>  btw, where's the standard place to put a mysql java connector jar?
[12:54] <FunnyMan3595> d1gital: You should be able to build the dapper CD from edgy, but that's not really what you want to do, is it?
[12:54] <agent> klotho: ifconfig does not show your network card? do note that your network card can be named eth0, wlan0, or even wifi0 (replace 0 with any number)
[12:54] <agent> klotho: in /dev/null ;)
[12:54] <ubun> when i install a kde based app like amarok, does it install everything needed to run KDE on my system?
[12:55] <dope_> how do i set gvim as my default text editor instead of gedit
[12:55] <klotho> agent: it's wlan0, which is how it shows up in lshw
[12:55] <agent> klotho: just joking, dont mv it into /dev/null
[12:55] <arrenlex> ubun: No.
[12:55] <ubun> dope_ i right clicked on a .txt file and choose 'open with' and changed it to 'gvim' might be other ways
[12:55] <d1gital> funnyman:  i will try to builld the edgy one first, but as i am mainly just doing this as a learning experience, i may end up making one for dapper
[12:55] <klotho> agent: thanks, I know not to put it there!
[12:55] <arrenlex> ubun: only everything needed to run that particular application.
[12:55] <FunnyMan3595> d1gital: The point is that you'll have to change some steps accordingly, including the obvious one of getting the edgy livecd iso to start with.
[12:55] <mnoir> babis85: getting promising errors now
[12:55] <dope_> ubun: i just want to double click and have it open
[12:56] <agent> klotho: you are trying to connect to a router, correct? and your router has dhcp working, correct?
[12:56] <ubun> dope_ what i said will work, you just have to do it for all the types of files you want, .c, etc
[12:56] <d1gital> funnyman:  yeah... that's the hard part since i installed dapper from the disc then upgraded... so it looks like im downloading it  :-(
[12:56] <dope_> i know it does
[12:56] <klotho> agent: I'm first of all just trying to get the card to show up in ifconfig, but eventually I want to be able to go to a cafe and connect to a router there
[12:56] <anandanb1> hi
[12:56] <olrrai_> hi
[12:56] <bruenig> !hi anandanb1
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi anandanb1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <bruenig> !hi | anandanb1
[12:57] <ubotu> anandanb1: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:57] <agent> how do i change the permissions of a media files inside of a mount point? currently i get 500 with some goofy data dvd but all other media work as expected
[12:57] <BlueLaguna> arrenlex: hmm, fdisk -l doesn't give any output for /dev/sda2
[12:57] <ubun> dope_ you'd think it'd be in 'system->Preferences->prefered applications
[12:57] <BlueLaguna> Does that only mean the disk doesn't have any partitions?
[12:57] <anandanb1> i have a problem with the updates in ubuntu
[12:57] <arrenlex> BlueLaguna: Then that drive only has one partition. Does this not sound right?
[12:57] <Agiofws> how does someone as use mount a partition in uubntu ?
[12:57] <olrrai_> how can I know my video card Identifier?
[12:58] <agent> klotho: okay, so you have no dhcp access right now, correct?
[12:58] <babis85> mnoir: from edgy says 'your party is refusing messages', while from dapper 'connection refused' and i have applied the things of the post you gave me to dapper
[12:58] <BlueLaguna> arrenlex: how can I find out the amount of space that hd contains then?
[12:58] <bruenig> dope_, very simple, right click on a file, select properties, change the open with. All files with that filetype you just changed will now obey the open with that you set.
[12:58] <BlueLaguna> it's not mounted
[12:58] <Helpmeee> I just installed ubuntu, and I can boot it but after ubuntu has completed the loading my screen goes blue
[12:58] <babis85> mnoir: and my dapper output of mesg is y
[12:58] <klotho> agent: I do. I'm connected right now on an actual wire on my OTHER ethernet card
[12:58] <FunnyMan3595> Agifws: You can't usually mount in user mode, you have to be able to enter root mode.
[12:58] <klotho> via dhcp
[12:58] <green_earz> olrrai_: lscpi -v  will give you pci info
[12:58] <arrenlex> BlueLaguna: fdisk -l should show that at the top. Or you could use "df".
[12:59] <mnoir> babis85: i am at exactly same point!
[12:59] <d1gital> any suggestions as to a good download manager?
[12:59] <mnoir> this is more work than i wanted right now :)
[12:59] <dope_> awesome, thx
[12:59] <mnoir> but it cannot be that hard to fix....
[12:59] <BlueLaguna> arrenlex: /dev/sda2 isn't mounted.  fdisk -l /dev/sda2 gives no output
[12:59] <olrrai_> thanks green_earz
[12:59] <dope_> you guys always have an answer for all my questions
[12:59] <FunnyMan3595> Agifws: Unless that's been granted by root.  The classic example of that is mounting a cdrom or other removable media.
[12:59] <green_earz> np
[12:59] <agent> klotho: sorry, i meant wireless dhcp.... and are you connected to the network using  a network card on the same machine/
[12:59] <babis85> mnoir: ok, nevermind
[12:59] <babis85> mnoir: thanks for your help
[12:59] <h0ndaracer2> hello everyone
[12:59] <Agiofws> FunnyMan3595,   ths is what has happened  mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/00ECF459ECF44A84 does not exist
[01:00] <arrenlex> BlueLaguna: If you run "sudo fdisk -l" just like that, it will list all information about all partitions on all hard drives in your system, whatever their state.
[01:00] <klotho> agent: yes, I'm connected on wired ethernet on the same machine via dhcp, using the eth0 interface
[01:00] <blue-phuz> can some one help me fix a screen corruption problem on my laptops gf4 mx 420 using ubuntu 6.10 and the latest nvidia glx
[01:00] <FunnyMan3595> Agiofws: Try: ls /dev/disk/by-uuid
[01:00] <mnoir> i will keep on trying :)
[01:00] <BlueLaguna> ah, thanks
[01:01] <green_earz> olrrai_: and if you want to know the driver name for the card > http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[01:01] <olrrai_> excelent!
[01:01] <tim167> is there a way to make an installable image on DVD from my entire ubuntu installation ?
[01:01] <blue-phuz> Help plz
[01:02] <blue-phuz> my evil gfx card is twiggin
[01:02] <agent> klotho: well heres the thing: you network card will not show up enabled unless you connect to some network if you try to use dhcp (because if dhcp fails netowrk card bails out) - point being, your netowrk card will be enabled if it has a checkmark in network manager and is connected to a network... without a check it will be diabled... this of course makes sense and it is supposed to be like that
[01:02] <lasse> how do i get ubuntu to check for hardware and install the drivers for my very common Marvell Yukon ethernet card?
[01:02] <babis85> tim167: try AptOnCd
[01:02] <slipttees> i have problem, with the LVM Groups...
[01:02] <vector_sum> I have a problem too, with NetworkManager
[01:02] <slipttees> no halt my system!
[01:02] <agent> klotho: what you should try doing is connect with your network card via static ip - i never tried this without a wireless ap or router around
[01:03] <Agiofws> FunnyMan3595,  07548e20-a2d3-4ec6-806f-0e4c0e78a0eb  ab82ab50-e6ba-4580-92b4-0ed4b4890b5d  457F-37F1  whats that
[01:03] <arrenlex> lasse: It should do that automatically.
[01:03] <slipttees> I'm am using ubuntu 6.06.1 all upgades!
[01:03] <klotho> agent: how do I get it to search for available access points? I don't think it's actually working because it doesn't show up in ifconfig, but if it was, how would I search for the access points?
[01:03] <slipttees> updates*
[01:03] <jvai> hey ppl
[01:03] <drkm> when my WIFI drops.. how do I get it to reconnect?
[01:04] <ubun> dang, gnome really goes a lot faster when i use the 'simple (thin appearance, high performance) theme
[01:04] <agent> klotho: my wired netowrk card is also not listed in ifconfig because its not connected (i don't have it checked in network manager) but it has worked fine for years
[01:04] <blue-phuz> help my evil gfx card is twiggin
[01:04] <FunnyMan3595> w Agifws: Looks like the UUID you think the drive has isn't the one that linux knows about.  Or that it never created the link for it.
[01:04] <snowshoefox> hi... how do can I setup fireFox to play mp3 files?
[01:04] <zim> hi all i still cant get my sound to work but im abit better informed my sound card is a 2801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC97 Audio Controller97 Audio Controller and the driver should be snd-intel8x0,i810_audio how do i get this working as it is NOT :(
[01:04] <snowshoefox> <or any audio file for that matter?>
[01:04] <h0ndaracer2> where can i get adobe photoshop cs 2 for ubuntu
[01:04] <tim167> babis85: thanks ill have a look
[01:04] <klotho> agent: okay, so how do I get it started and search for access points?
[01:04] <babis85> drkm: maybe by running sudo ifup <interface> --force
[01:04] <lasse> arrenlex: ok, but I have a common motherboard, ASUS A8N-SLI, with a common 2 common on board network cards, one marvell yukon and one realtek thingy, and none of them are recognized
[01:04] <drkm> babis85: anything easier like going to network settings in gnome?
[01:05] <lasse> arrenlex sudo ifconfig gives me this eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[01:05] <agent> klotho: use iwlist
[01:05] <FunnyMan3595> Agifws: Basically, that gave you a list of the disk UUIDs that linux knew about.
[01:05] <babis85> tim167: np, you can completely customise your installation
[01:05] <agent> klotho: iwlist wlan0 scan
[01:05] <Agiofws> i have ubuntu and wnat to mount this partition please help me " hdb5                    Logical   W95 FAT32                       104855,87 "
[01:05] <arrenlex> lasse: How curious. I, too, have an asustek motherbord, a marvell yukon integrated NIC and a realtek ethernet card, and everything is recognised fine.
[01:05] <lasse> arrenlex, and ifconfig -a only shows lo0 wlan0 ra0
[01:05] <klotho> agent: no scan results
[01:05] <slipttees> ???????????????
[01:05] <specialdave> im new to ubuntu...and i was wondering what MSN style messenger was best to use?
[01:05] <Agiofws> i have ubuntu and wnat to mount this partition please help me " hdb5                    Logical   W95 FAT32                       104855,87 "  and the line in fstab is UUID=00ECF459ECF44A84 /media/hdb5     vfat     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0
[01:05] <FunnyMan3595> Agifws: Do you have a directory created as a mount point yet?
[01:05] <yoshig3> guys!
[01:05] <lasse> arrenlex, ive had the very same motherboard on another computer and it worked great (with hoary, that is)
[01:05] <yoshig3> I need working nvidia drivers T.T
[01:06] <arrenlex> specialdave: On Gnome? Probably gaim.
[01:06] <d1gital> specialdave: Gaim
[01:06] <specialdave> cool ty
[01:06] <zim> specialdave GAME is good
[01:06] <ubun> gnome that comes with dapper is gtk2.0 right?
[01:06] <Agiofws> FunnyMan3595,  let me see
[01:06] <agent> klotho: i think it needs to be listed with iwconfig for it to scan.... hrm
[01:06] <zim> specialdave GAIM is good Sorry
[01:06] <lasse> arrenlex, what can i do to fix this? my wifi connection is really unstable because of some thick walls, so i really need this to work
[01:07] <snowshoefox> NM, i, i will be installing mozilla-mplayer
[01:07] <zim> specialdave it should be install by default
[01:07] <klotho> agent: yeah, that's the problem.  "Aritmetiskt fel (core dumped)"
[01:08] <yoshig3> Is there anything I can do in ubuntu to fix graphical perfomance issues?
[01:08] <jorgp> why would I get only 50M/s, I have dma on, IO 32bit
[01:08] <yoshig3> I have some new drivers....
[01:08] <agent> klotho: so it shows up in ifconfig but not not in iwconfig, right? (i don't remember now)
[01:08] <FunnyMan3595> Agifws: The mount command is: sudo mount -t fat32 /media/hdb5 /path/to/mount/directory
[01:08] <oslo>  does someone here has already success to use gmailfs ??
[01:08] <klotho> agent: no, it doesn't show up in ifconfig
[01:08] <FunnyMan3595> Agifws: But you need to create a blank directory to mount it to first.
[01:08] <klotho> only in lwsh
[01:08] <blue-phuz> can some one help me fix a screen corruption problem on my laptops gf4 mx 420 using ubuntu 6.10 and the latest nvidia glx
[01:09] <agent> klotho: okay... what card are you using and what module is being loaded?
[01:09] <babis85> dkrm: i don't anything easier than this, it is only a command, just type it replacing <interface> by eth1 (i think so)
[01:09] <ubun> how do i change the theme of ubuntu from gnome-look (the look if icons/apps)
[01:09] <slipttees>
[01:09] <slipttees> right order nobody answers!
[01:09] <slipttees> :(
[01:09] <slipttees> i have much problems with the LVM later update my system
[01:09] <zim> This is a Q to anyone good with soundcmy sound card is a 2801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC97 Audio Controller97 Audio Controller and the driver should be snd-intel8x0,i810_audio how do i get this working as it is NOT :(
[01:09] <slipttees> no halt!!! somebody hemp me, please ?
[01:10] <klotho> agent: the card is Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset, and the driver being loaded is driver=p80211_prism2_pci driverversion=0.2.5
[01:10] <agent> slipttees: with your foul language and attitude is it a surprise no one is helping?
[01:10] <slipttees> sorry
[01:10] <babis85> mnoir: xinet.d service doesn't exist in edgy
[01:10] <slipttees> but...
[01:10] <slipttees> nobody helps me: (
[01:10] <agent> klotho: okay, i do not have any experience with this card... have you tried searching ubuntuforums?
[01:11] <babis85> mnoir: maybe this is the reason ...
[01:11] <agent> __mikem: scroll up (not too far)
[01:11] <klotho> agent: it's just the standard card that came with most of the T-series IBM laptops
[01:11] <tim167> zim:I'm not that experienced with that, but... what does lsmod say ? does it list your soundcard ?
[01:11] <d1gital> when you chroot, and then install a package, the package gets installed in the folder you have chrooted into, not the normal folders, correct?
[01:11] <_SKiTZO> who are these people? that makes me have to extract firmware from a windows driver to have my wifi work on a linux box... *sigh*
[01:11] <zim> yes
[01:12] <agent> klotho: try thinkwiki.org they usually have all the answers when it comes to thinkpads
[01:12] <BlueLaguna> how do I list all the groups on the system?
[01:12] <_SKiTZO> agent: thanks alot it seems to work
[01:12] <zim> tim167 yes
[01:12] <slipttees> agent: sorry..am using google tranlation!
[01:12] <dope_> how do i rename a the ftp shortcut name
[01:12] <sindrum> what should i use to convert .oog file to .wav?
[01:12] <BlueLaguna> or see a list of all the groups on the system rather
[01:12] <Agiofws> FunnyMan3595,   yes there is a dir /media/hdb5 now how do i mount ?
[01:12] <agent> _SKiTZO: great!
[01:12] <tim167> zim: i remember getting midi to work by simply doing modprobe snd-seq, maybe modprobe snd-dev or something (again, not sure tho)
[01:13] <FunnyMan3595> Agiofws: You misunderstood.
[01:13] <__mikem> agent, found it
[01:13] <klotho> agent: nah, they just say it worked with previous versions of ubuntu
[01:13] <klotho> nothing on 6.10
[01:13] <Agiofws> in fstab  ?
[01:13] <Agiofws>  i have ubuntu and wnat to mount this partition please help me " hdb5                    Logical   W95 FAT32                       104855,87 "  and the line in fstab is UUID=00ECF459ECF44A84 /media/hdb5     vfat     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0
[01:13] <slipttees> agent: where I find logs of lvm?
[01:13] <FunnyMan3595> Agiofws: You need a blank directory somewhere to mount to.  Just create a directory wherever you want it to be.
[01:13] <Agiofws> there is dir
[01:14] <FunnyMan3595> Agifws: The mount command is: sudo mount -t fat32 /media/hdb5 /path/to/mount/directory
[01:14] <Agiofws>   /media/hdb5
[01:14] <green_earz> zim: to install the driver for the card you can use the app modconf : sudo apt-get install modconf  : then sudo modconf and track down the driver for the sound card : but first is the driver all ready install : lsmod | grep snd    and can you see it ?
[01:14] <Agiofws> empty
[01:14] <Agiofws> huh ?
[01:14] <agent> klotho: in truth, it is very odd that your wireless card is not working - its not normal for a thinkpad to have problems with linux.... have you tried rmmod <your module> modprobe <your module> AFTER you disable your wired ethernet connection in network manager?  you may have problems with having two netowrk cards on at the same time
[01:14] <Agiofws>   /media/hdb5 is the device ?
[01:14] <FunnyMan3595> Agiofws: Right, if I'm reading that right...
[01:14] <agent> slipttees: /var/log probably like every other system wide log file
[01:15] <mnoir> babis85: I got it but not yet in X
[01:15] <FunnyMan3595> Agiofws: Which isn't guaranteed.
[01:15] <agent> klotho: i have used many thinkpads including t and x series w/o problems
[01:15] <slipttees> but
[01:15] <Agiofws> UUID=00ECF459ECF44A84 /media/hdb5     vfat     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0
[01:15] <FunnyMan3595> Agiofws: It'd be the other way around in that case, with the device as /dev/hdb5.
[01:15] <Agiofws> isnt that the dir
[01:15] <Agiofws> so whats the command ?
[01:15] <klotho> agent: there seems to be a problem in 6.10
[01:16] <FunnyMan3595> Agiofws: Try: sudo mount -t fat32 /dev/hdb5 /media/hdb5
[01:16] <zim>  green_earz http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36736/
[01:16] <klotho> agent: I read about some other computers using this same chipset and it was loading two drivers, so I followed those instructions but they still didn't help
[01:16] <slipttees> but which? it has several!
[01:16] <slipttees> dmesg?
[01:17] <agent> klotho: you know.... if you have a space non 6.10 live cd (could be a different distribution) i would load it up to see if the card works... if it shows up check what module is loaded... may be 6.10 is loading the wrong module or 6.10 has a bad module
[01:17] <pablo_> hi, is it fine a piii with 700 mhz for ubuntu?
[01:17] <lupine_85> pablo_: sure
[01:17] <somerville32> pablo_: You might look at Xubuntu.
[01:17] <klotho> agent: I used the alternate disk... reinstalling would be kind of a pain
[01:17] <anandanbu> Hi
[01:17] <somerville32> !xubuntu | pablo_
[01:17] <ubotu> pablo_: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[01:17] <agent> klotho: i menat "if you have a non..."
[01:17] <agent> klotho: no, do not reinstall just use a live cd of some kind
[01:18] <babis85> mnoir: great, but how. saying 'not yet in X' you mean that you are logged at a simple shell without loading X server?
[01:18] <h0ndaracer2> ok how do i install a program from the command line in ubuntu for example im installing firefox
[01:18] <klotho> agent: which version do you think I should try?
[01:18] <jollyroger1210> I have an old COmpaq presario 5150 which will run ubuntu, except for the ram.  It only has 96 megs, is that enough?
[01:18] <pablo_> mm so you dont recommend kde or gnome on a 700 mhz piii?
[01:18] <Moosejaw> has anyone successfully installed the poker app PPSsetup.bin on edgy???  I keep getting an error, and it seems common but I havent found a fix.
[01:18] <mnoir> actually - i have it now in 2 win in x but not yet tween 2 machines by dns name
[01:18] <mike> Enough for text mode jollyroger lol.
[01:18] <h0ndaracer2> how do i install
[01:18] <mnoir> almost there....
[01:18] <jollyroger1210> mike: thanks a ton
[01:19] <Micksa> okay, ubuntu developer people
[01:19] <Micksa> we really need a new format for /var/lib/dpkg/info
[01:19] <Micksa> just FYI
[01:19] <agent> tough choice.... but maybe newest knoppix live cd? or dapper?
[01:19] <green_earz> zim: its there snd_intel8x0    so are you a member of the auido group ? use the command :  groups   to see
[01:19] <FunnyMan3595> h0ndaracer2: Personally, I'd go grab the official version of firefox.  It's one of the things that annoys me about the debian family.
[01:19] <h0ndaracer2> what you mean the officaill i was just upgrading to the 2.0 version
[01:20] <FunnyMan3595> h0ndaracer2: But if you want the ubuntu standard, that's: sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:20] <Rebecca> hi peoples. i have an amd64 system. i have read the ubuntu faq. it's currently running deb amd 64 but i want to switch to ubuntu... is it really worth installing the amd64 version of ubuntu.. the chroot stuff game me a headache with deb
[01:20] <zim> ok
[01:20] <zim> yup
[01:20] <zim> am a member
[01:20] <agent> FunnyMan3595: nothing wrong about debian ideology... at least they try to be true to freedom software by having a somewhat strict policy
[01:20] <mnoir> babis85: grrrr - connection refused tween machines on same subnet - i dunno what is wrong
[01:20] <h0ndaracer2> like i saved it on my desktop and extracted firefox 2.o what do i do next to install it
[01:21] <FunnyMan3595> h0ndaracer2: Basically, the debian group (which ubuntu is a child of) and the mozilla foundation (who make firefox) don't get along, so if you want the *real* version, you have to get it from the firefox people directly.
[01:21] <arrenlex> Rebecca: a) why would you want to switch from debian? b) It's a huge headache with no benefits. Stick with 32.
[01:21] <h0ndaracer2> i got it directly
[01:21] <L0cKd0wN> hey guys
[01:21] <arrenlex> !hi
[01:21] <L0cKd0wN> i've been trying to VNC all day
[01:21] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:21] <h0ndaracer2> andi extracted the files now what do i do
[01:21] <agent> __mikem: because seveas packaged and fixes the kernel you run on (plus tons of other stuff), thats why ;)
[01:21] <FunnyMan3595> agent: Yeah, I get the philosophy, but I think what the mozilla people have been doing makes perfect sense, so...  *shrugs*
[01:22] <sedrake> what do i write to get error messages in english instead of local language?
[01:22] <L0cKd0wN> here's what im dealing with with VNC: http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a179/ArcTuRuX/screen.jpg
[01:22] <klotho> agent, okay, thanks for trying to help
[01:22] <R4Nd0M> in winblows i can hold alt and key an ascii value and when I release alt it will insert that char.  Is there a way to do this in linux?
[01:22] <arrenlex> agent: Yes, but typically the ops lurk.
[01:22] <Rebecca> arrenlex: because i first installed this deb setup when it was still unofficial and very experimental.. so it has plenty of quirks... i need to reinstall and ubuntu looks nice
[01:22] <babis85> mnoir: if we try to find out the correspondent package to xinett.d in edgy?
[01:22] <FunnyMan3595> h0ndaracer2: Okay, what form did you get it in?  Source tarball?
[01:22] <green_earz> zim: so driver installed your install auido group so it may be that the sound is muted in alsamixer : use the command alsamixer and see if it a channel that muted
[01:22] <Micksa> argh
[01:22] <h0ndaracer2> lol im a noobie to this stuff so you lost me their funnyman
[01:22] <mnoir> it is same - I installed on 1 6.10 machine and 1 6.10
[01:23] <mnoir> and 1 6.06 :)
[01:23] <agent> R4Nd0M: yes, in fact, you can even switch your keyboard layout whenever you want to different languages.... system -> preferences -> keybaord layout for your options
[01:23] <Rebecca> arrenlex: is there really much performance gain? i think i will just go 32bit
[01:23] <FunnyMan3595> h0ndaracer2: What's the filename that you got?  Particularly the extension (if any)
[01:23] <arrenlex> Rebecca: There is no perceptible difference, I believe.
[01:23] <h0ndaracer2> tar.gz
[01:23] <Rebecca> arrenlex: then ill save myself some headaches and go 32. thanks :)
[01:24] <R4Nd0M> thanks
[01:24] <h0ndaracer2> is that it funnyman
[01:24] <FunnyMan3595> !tar | h0ndaracer2
[01:24] <ubotu> h0ndaracer2: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[01:24] <L0cKd0wN> anyone wanna help me with VNC?
[01:24] <FunnyMan3595> h0ndaracer2: Yeah, that's a tarball.
[01:24] <L0cKd0wN> stuck here:
[01:24] <L0cKd0wN> http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a179/ArcTuRuX/screen.jpg
[01:24] <h0ndaracer2> now whtat do i do
[01:25] <FunnyMan3595> h0ndaracer2: Personally, I usually open them via command line, but you can use the link ubotu just pointed out.
[01:25] <Agiofws>  sudo mount -t fat32 /media/hdb5 /path/to/mount/directory
[01:25] <FunnyMan3595> h0ndaracer2: From a command line...
[01:25] <Agiofws>  sudo mount -t vfat /media/hdb5 /path/to/mount/directory
[01:25] <h0ndaracer2> ok thanks
[01:25] <Agiofws> FunnyMan3595,  it worked
[01:25] <babis85> mnoir: it doesn't exist such a package
[01:25] <agent> h0ndaracer2: its a tarball that is compressed (tar does not compress - it just files, gz = the compression on top of tar)
[01:25] <R4Nd0M> agent: i use ascii chars that are not typically mapped to a key. (i.e. ASCII 146)
[01:25] <FunnyMan3595> h0ndaracer2: bunzip2 filename
[01:26] <olrrai_> where is /etc/X11/XF86Config, or what is its replacement?
[01:26] <Agiofws> FunnyMan3595,  now  when i try to copy files  to it   it says permison dinied can you help me on this one ?
[01:26] <FunnyMan3595> h0ndaracer2: tar -xvf filename
[01:26] <LjL> R4Nd0M: not an ASCII char... ASCII is 7 bits ;)
[01:26] <yoshig3> Hey guys, what does "Sync to VBlank" do?
[01:26] <arrenlex> olrrai_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:26] <agent> R4Nd0M: you can set a special key (forgot the name) in the keybaord layout options
[01:26] <yoshig3> should I disable it for better performance?
[01:26] <olrrai_> ok
[01:26] <zim> green_earz nothing muted
[01:26] <green_earz> zim: turn your volume down and see if the command cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp    puts out a sound or any errors on the terminal
[01:26] <FunnyMan3595> h0ndaracer2: On the second one, the filename will have changed (dropped the .gz extension)
[01:26] <FunnyMan3595> h0ndaracer2: Ack, messed up...
[01:26] <R4Nd0M> I'll try that - thought ASCII was 0-255 decimal and 0 being null
[01:27] <yoshig3> HEY GUYS! What does "Sync to VBlank" do!?
[01:27] <zim> green_earz cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[01:27] <FunnyMan3595> h0ndaracer2: The first command should be *gunzip*.  bzip2 is for .tar.bz2 files.
[01:27] <green_earz> yes
[01:27] <zim> bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[01:27] <Agiofws> FunnyLookinHat, UUID=00ECF459ECF44A84 /media/hdb5     vfat     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0  what sould i change so user can copy files to this disk ?
[01:27] <zim> sorry
[01:27] <yoshig3> Hey
[01:27] <yoshig3> What's "Sync to VBlank" mean?
[01:27] <zim> copy did not work
[01:28] <arrenlex> h0ndaracer2: Are you trying to extract a gzipped tarball? "tar xzf <file.tar.gz>"
[01:28] <LjL> FunnyMan3595: at any rate, even 'tar' alone will find out if and how the archive is compressed, and extract it first
[01:28] <FunnyMan3595> Agiofws: Sorry, two conversations...
[01:28] <yoshig3> What's "Sync to VBlank" mean?
[01:28] <yoshig3> What's "Sync to VBlank" mean?
[01:28] <Agiofws> sorry FunnyLookinHat
[01:28] <Agiofws> sorry FunnyMan3595
[01:28] <LjL> arrenlex: or "tar xf" for either gzipped or bzipped
[01:28] <h0ndaracer2> idk im lost with all the conversations going on at once
[01:28] <LjL> yoshig3: don't spam
[01:28] <yoshig3> LjL: No one will answer me lol
[01:28] <yoshig3> LjL: What's "Sync to VBlank" mean?
[01:28] <L0cKd0wN> has anyone ever seen that?
[01:28] <__mikem> Hey LjL
[01:28] <L0cKd0wN> or ideas on how to fix?
[01:28] <yoshig3> LjL: I know you'll answer me :D
[01:28] <L0cKd0wN> or anything at all? lol
[01:28] <FunnyMan3595> LjL: Some systems I work on don't have (de)compression built into tar, so I do it in two stages by habit.
[01:29] <FunnyMan3595> Agifws: Okay...
[01:29] <FunnyMan3595> Agiofws: You'll need an extra tag in the mount line.
[01:29] <LjL> yoshig3: it means that the screen is redrawn during the vertical blank time, which is the time during which a cathodic ray tube's ray is switched off in order to reposition it to top-left
[01:29] <zim> green_earz bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[01:29] <Agiofws> which is ?
[01:29] <Agiofws> UUID=00ECF459ECF44A84 /media/hdb5     vfat     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0
[01:29] <h0ndaracer2> im just gona leave
[01:29] <LjL> yoshig3: and you're muted for 10 minutes
[01:29] <FunnyMan3595> Agiofws: Start off by doing umount on the directory you just mounted to.
[01:30] <babis85> mnoir: it works prefectly if i connect from edgy to dapper through ssh and then run 'talk username'
[01:30] <FunnyMan3595> Agiofws: And then use the same mount command as before, but make it start out: mount -w -f ...
[01:30] <__mikem> LjL, I said Hi
[01:31] <Agiofws> UUID=00ECF459ECF44A84 /media/hdb5     vfat     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8,umask=0   0    0
[01:31] <Agiofws> ?
[01:31] <L0cKd0wN> i've followed the instructions on the ubuntu website, to a T
[01:31] <L0cKd0wN> but I still can't get a login screen
[01:31] <L0cKd0wN> i just get a small window with the logo
[01:31] <LjL> oh hi __mikem. didn't notice that, too many highlights nearby :P
[01:31] <L0cKd0wN> (again relating to VNC problems)
[01:31] <green_earz> zim: see if this one dose any thing     lspci -nv && amixer -c0
[01:31] <__mikem> oh its alright, I see you have your hands full anyway
[01:31] <R> hey, I just started using ubuntu and I have a quick question.
[01:32] <R> Im using the live disc
[01:32] <R> but I cant seem to get on the internet.
[01:32] <LjL> __mikem: not really
[01:32] <magic_ninja> what's the latest version of cedega
[01:32] <Agiofws> sudo mount -f -w -t vfat /dev/hdb5 /media/hdb5 FunnyMan3595
[01:32] <Agiofws> ?
[01:32] <m1key> I installed regular ubuntu on my 64bit machine and now I want to upgrade to x64 version of everything is there an easy way to do this?
[01:32] <babis85> mnoir: i guess that we have to make some configurations like that in dapper (from the post you gave me), but in which file???
[01:32] <FunnyMan3595> Agiofws: Try it.
[01:32] <Jbirk> Hello
[01:32] <FunnyMan3595> Agiofws: You'll probably need to sudo umount /media/hdb5 first, though.
[01:32] <Jbirk> I have a question about iTALC with Ubuntu
[01:32] <Agiofws> what about  changing the line in fstab ?
[01:33] <Agiofws> i did that
[01:33] <babis85> mnoir: the reverse direction (ssh to edgy from dapper and then talk) doesn't work
[01:33] <zim> green_earz http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36737/
[01:33] <m1key> easy way to upgrade to x64 from i386
[01:33] <m1key> !channel
[01:33] <FunnyMan3595> Can't really help with fstab, it's not a subject I know.  :(
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about channel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <anandanbu> hi
[01:34] <arrenlex> !hi
[01:34] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:34] <L0cKd0wN> has anyone gotten vnc working succesfully under the new ubuntu version?
[01:34] <spx2> anyone know how to get gaim to put status the music i'm playing with xmms ?
[01:34] <FunnyMan3595> Please state the nature of the medi^H^H^H^Hubuntu emergency.
[01:35] <arrenlex> m1key: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20158.html
[01:35] <spx2> anyone know how to get gaim to put status the music i'm playing with xmms ?
[01:35] <anandanbu> i have a problem with ubuntu and the internet connetion.whenever i open more than one tab in the firefox the connection goes off.when i plog it displays 'connection terminated' and 'modem hangup'
[01:35] <Agiofws> FunnyMan3595,  still not letting me
[01:36] <L0cKd0wN> http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a179/ArcTuRuX/screen.jpg
[01:36] <L0cKd0wN> anyone know what this is ^^^^ ?
[01:37] <Jassossovinik> L0cKd0wN, huh? What's that picture for?
[01:37] <LjL> L0cKd0wN: a screenshot?
[01:37] <L0cKd0wN> well it was hard to describe heh
[01:37] <FunnyMan3595> Okay, Agiofws has gone past my level of experience.  Anyone around who might be able to figure out why mount -w didn't give *m a writeable system (fat32)?
[01:37] <spx2> anyone know how to get gaim to put status the music i'm playing with xmms ?
[01:37] <L0cKd0wN> i can't login, im trying to VNC
[01:37] <L0cKd0wN> and that's as far as it goes
[01:37] <L0cKd0wN> a little window, no login or anything
[01:38] <zim>  green_earz did you get this ???  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36737/
[01:38] <arrenlex> Agiofws: Can you write to it as root?
[01:38] <green_earz> zim: the out put looks ok may be that the sound app is not config to alsa. fire up xmms and have a look at if its using alsa as its sound demom
[01:38] <Agiofws> don't know
[01:38] <arrenlex> Agiofws: Well try. o_O
[01:38] <Agiofws> i'm trying this
[01:38] <Agiofws> now
[01:38] <Agiofws> UUID=00ECF459ECF44A84 /media/hdb5     vfat     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8,umask=0   0    0
[01:39] <L0cKd0wN> i've been waiting 4 hours, so sorry if I keep asking
[01:39] <Agiofws> with the umask option
[01:39] <L0cKd0wN> just frustrated at this point
[01:39] <L0cKd0wN> this is where i'd pay for technical support if ubuntu had a local phone number lol
[01:39] <zim> installing xmms
[01:39] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wn: Is it doing that at the machine as well, or only over VNC?
[01:40] <Agiofws> L0cKd0wN,  wnna pay me
[01:40] <L0cKd0wN> FunnyMan3595: only over VNC, I can ssh and manipulate the box
[01:40] <jvai> lol
[01:40] <green_earz> zim: yes sudo apt-get install xmms
[01:40] <L0cKd0wN> lol no i don't wanna pay
[01:40] <L0cKd0wN> there's close to 900 people in this room
[01:41] <L0cKd0wN> and nobody knows what im talking about lol...
[01:41] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: Just to double-check, if you sit at the machine, you can log in just fine, with the usual graphical interface?
[01:41] <L0cKd0wN> i must communicate horribly
[01:41] <L0cKd0wN> FunnyMan3595: yea if I hook up a monitor to the box, works fine
[01:41] <spx2> anyone know how to get gaim to put status the music i'm playing with xmms ?
[01:42] <L0cKd0wN> I followed the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[01:42] <L0cKd0wN> exactly
[01:42] <L0cKd0wN> word for word
[01:42] <zim> output plugin ALSA 1.2.10
[01:43] <green_earz> zim: open xmms on a sound file and see if it will make a sound we hope
[01:43] <tom_kelleher> is there a way to mount an .iso file so that I don't have to burn it to a CD?
[01:43] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: Which part of it?  Connect to your desktop or start sessions?
[01:44] <L0cKd0wN> FunnyMan3595: well from my understanding, it looks like I can't start a session, cuz vncserver is running or I wouldn't see anything at all, correct?
[01:44] <zim> green_earz :( nope
[01:44] <calm> quick question: where are ppd files located?
[01:45] <zim> bars jump ups and down no sound
[01:45] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: If you just do "connect to your desktop", that creates a VNC server on :0 that should match your in-chair view.
[01:45] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: Anything that uses hardware accelleration will show up black, for the obvious reason.
[01:46] <L0cKd0wN> I followed "Enabling other computers to Connect to XDM/GDM and start sessions."
[01:46] <L0cKd0wN> cuz, im on windows Xp
[01:46] <zim> why is nothing with a sony simple
[01:46] <L0cKd0wN> windows xp -> ubuntu box (via VNC)
[01:47] <zim> I love sony for style build Q etc but hardware and linux sucks
[01:47] <green_earz> zim: haa it playing if you can see movement on xmms interface. chech your jack plugs for the sound out put lead
[01:47] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: The first method should still work under windows, I've used it myself.
[01:47] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: Try that and see if you can get to your desktop.  It looks to me like the vnc server is having trouble starting gnome.
[01:48] <L0cKd0wN> I only see "using Gnome / Ubuntu" and "using KDE / Kubuntu" instructions, nothing for windows
[01:48] <zim> nope i get sound in windoze and and the sony startup jingle but not in 6.10
[01:48] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: But the first method piggybacks off of an existing gnome session, so it bypasses that.
[01:48] <nofxx2> hi.. my mouse was working on the live cd and it dosent work anymore after install, any help?
[01:48] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: Right, you want the gnome instructions.
[01:48] <nofxx2> xubuntu
[01:48] <tom_kelleher> is anybody familiar with WINE and Games in Ubuntu?
[01:48] <L0cKd0wN> System > Preferences > Remote Desktop
[01:49] <L0cKd0wN> i don't have those
[01:49] <L0cKd0wN> i'd have to hook a monitor up
[01:49] <L0cKd0wN> login
[01:49] <L0cKd0wN> and do that
[01:49] <zim> green_earz nope i get sound in windoze and and the sony startup jingle but not in 6.10
[01:49] <rastilin> tom_kelleher; what about them?
[01:49] <tom_kelleher> rastilin; I'm trying to play StarCraft with WINE in Edgy
[01:49] <green_earz> tom_kelleher: sudo -s  then mount -o loop cd-miage.iso /mnt    then cd to /mnt   and ls
[01:50] <rastilin> So, what's the problem?
[01:50] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: Yeah.  Obviously not something you want to be doing in the end, but it would help verify what is working in the VNC connection.
[01:50] <tom_kelleher> rastilin; well, if I install it with WINE will it 'just work'
[01:50] <L0cKd0wN> see what im saying FunnyMan3595, if we're looking at the same set of instructions, I can't enable those options because I don't have initial access to the box, only ssh atm
[01:50] <rastilin> Pretty much
[01:50] <tom_kelleher> rastilin; I'll give it a try then
[01:51] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: Right.  Okay, let me massage Google for a bit here, see if I can find anything.
[01:51] <green_earz> zim: sorry but i am at a lost here. the driver install your in the sound group and its the mixer not muted. it be small small thing
[01:51] <babis85> mnoir: i dit
[01:51] <babis85> mnoir: i did it
[01:52] <zim> i hate small things
[01:52] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: Oh, have you tried looking at the log?
[01:52] <zim> you cant kick them
[01:52] <zim> ty for your time
[01:52] <L0cKd0wN> FunnyMan3595, new to ubuntu, where is the log file located?
[01:52] <babis85> mnoir: but there is still a small problem, i can use talk from dapper to edgy and not in reverse
[01:52] <green_earz> tom_kelleher: once you mounted the .iso as sudo -s you can exit back the the normal user mode
[01:52] <daniminas> it is possible to change where firefox save all user configurataion?
[01:53] <tom_kelleher> green_earz; will I be able to play StarCraft from an ISO without a CD ?
[01:53] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: Take a look at your terminal output in the screencap.
[01:53] <rastilin> You can do the mount with only one command.
[01:53] <babis85> mnoir: i installed xinetd and then i applied the instructions mentioned in the topic from ubu forums
[01:53] <L0cKd0wN> FunnyMan3595: nothing stands out particularly
[01:53] <zim> green_earz ty for you time i will hit google again
[01:54] <rapid> hi all
[01:54] <green_earz> tom_kelleher: sorry i do not know the answer to that
[01:54] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: Note the last (nonempty) line before your command prompt returned.  Log file is...
[01:54] <_SKiTZO> hm. after alot of hassle my wifi sees to work in that i get a list of routers. but i cant seem to connect to any of  them. im using wifi-radar. i never ever managed to fetch an ip no matter what settinsg i tried
[01:54] <green_earz> zim: all the best
[01:54] <_SKiTZO> any clues?
[01:54] <zero-1> Im having a kernel panic message every once in a while it says not syncing: Attempted to kill the idle task
[01:54] <L0cKd0wN> FunnyMan3595: ok i see it
[01:54] <zim> ty again
[01:54] <zero-1> what can I do ?
[01:54] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: Amazing the useful information programs print out sometimes.  :)
[01:55] <WonderClown> I have a question about upgrading dapper->edgy *without* using the graphical update-manager app.
[01:55] <WonderClown> I can't use update-manager because these boxes do not have any X libraries installed, so I can't install update-manager, because it's a gtk app.
[01:55] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: Take a look at the bottom of that file.  It may have some big ugly error messages, or it may just... stop.
[01:55] <WonderClown> So I need to use apt-get, or aptitude, or some other text-mode tool.
[01:55] <WonderClown> But the official upgrade instructions have dire warnings about using apt-get, so what am I to do?
[01:56] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: If it just stops, chances are that the last line will tell you what got stuck while trying to load.
[01:56] <rapid> jihikjioj
[01:56] <green_earz> zim: by the way when you get the sound up and running have a look at steamtuner for internet radio shoutcast and streamripper
[01:57] <WonderClown> Anybody here have experience upgrading to edgy with apt-get instead of update-manager?
[01:57] <zero-1> how can i check my hard drive for errors
[01:57] <eviltwin> if I recall, you change your repos
[01:57] <eviltwin> then apt-get update
[01:57] <tim167> my HP PSC1510 printer always prints a test page every time i turn it on, this spills ink and paper, how can I prevent that ?
[01:57] <eviltwin> then apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:57] <nofxx2> any idea how to reinstall the mouse ? it was working on the live cd, dosent work anymore installed.. xubuntu 6.10
[01:57] <L0cKd0wN> FunnyMan3595: http://rafb.net/paste/results/S1FPjs61.html
[01:57] <WonderClown> Yeah, I've been using apt-get and manually editing /etc/apt/sources.list for a long time, on Debian.
[01:57] <WonderClown> But the upgrade guide says that will NOT work correctly for edgy.
[01:58] <eviltwin> oh
[01:58] <eviltwin> erm...
[01:58] <eviltwin> well, that's how I did it when I upgraded to breezy all those years ago... 8-)
[01:58] <eviltwin> :p
[01:58] <eviltwin> can't help then, sorry
[01:58] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: Looking...
[01:58] <eviltwin> I've got to say, I HATE the new xchat interface
[01:58] <eviltwin> I'm gonna downgrade XD
[01:59] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: Bah, that's next to worthless, it's not showing any of the useful information.
[02:00] <L0cKd0wN> FunnyMan3595: what command should I be using to launch the vnc server ?
[02:00] <L0cKd0wN> service *
[02:00] <h-edge> Using dual-head and xinerama in edgy on laptop, is there a way to disable secondary on the fly when not in use?
[02:00] <L0cKd0wN> i've seen 'vncserver' 'Xrealvnc' etc.
[02:00] <h-edge> because when my external isn't being used application like to open over on a screen I cant see...
[02:00] <h-edge> and I cant get them onto the screen I can see.
[02:01] <h-edge> just being able to switch which screen they're on would be good enough
[02:01] <eviltwin> much better >_<
[02:01] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: vncserver should be fine.
[02:02] <h-edge> on that note, having to use IRC in gaim... because xchat is stuck on my other screen
[02:02] <h-edge> lol
[02:03] <olrrai_> restart X
[02:03] <der0b> heya folks, playing an avi with an mp3 audio track and I get this error from gmplayer: requested audio codec family [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not available.  enable it at compilation.  the video plays fine, with audio, but I always get this error.   :O
[02:05] <LjL> PriceChild: he triggered just about every highlight he could trigger
[02:05] <PriceChild> haha :)
[02:05] <FunnyMan3595> LjL: I was a bit disappointed.  He didn't degenerate to "one" in the stream of exclamation marks.
[02:06] <der0b> funnyman3595: I'm playing an mp3 with gmplayer now, still got the error but it plays fine...
[02:06] <LjL> heh
[02:06] <h-edge> there was one "1" wasn't there?
[02:07] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: The problem is that it's getting to the gnome startup, but for some reason it's hanging there.
[02:08] <carutsu> hello
[02:08] <apokryphos> hi
[02:08] <carutsu> Have you ever heard that a sound card get disconfigured?
[02:08] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: There might be something important in one of the /var/log files, maybe X0rg.0.log
[02:08] <carutsu> my sound card was ok til yesterday
[02:09] <carutsu> now not even totem makes any sound
[02:09] <L0cKd0wN> FunnyMan3595: ok i'll look there as well
[02:09] <carutsu> i just installed Beryl, any conections?
[02:09] <FunnyMan3595> L0cKd0wN: Sorry, that's Xorg.0.log.  Your username's getting me into a zero frenzy.
[02:10] <h-edge> maybe I didn't explain this very well, lol : I use ubuntu with dual head on my laptop, when I have the external disconnected programs still appear on the secondary, but I obviously can't access them. E.g right now I'm using Gaim because Xchat is appearing on the external and I can't get to it. How would I either move the switch which screen a programs on? or, disable the external when not plugged in?
[02:10] <arrenlex> FunnyMan3595: That's the l33t xorg log =P
[02:10] <n2diy_> Does the MinimalCD install give you X?
[02:10] <sc4ttrbrain> lol
[02:10] <FunnyMan3595> arrenlex: No, I keep all of those in /dev/null.
[02:10] <sc4ttrbrain> l0l
[02:11] <Flannel> n2diy_: minimal CD installs a normal install (same as alternate CD), just with downloading straight from repositories, instead of off the CD
[02:11] <grodius> Hey if i attached a camera to my comp, how do i access the pictures on it ?
[02:11] <LjL> Flannel: minimal cd would be mini.iso?
[02:11] <FunnyMan3595> arrenlex: Though if you're a believer, you might put them in /v4|-/106/
[02:11] <Flannel> LjL: correct
[02:12] <n2diy_> Flannel, fine buisness, does it include X?
[02:12] <LjL> Flannel: besides, i'm curious how it can be that small... the debian businesscard cd is about 30 megs
[02:12] <carutsu> I'm having troubles with my resolution too
[02:12] <Flannel> n2diy_: yes.  It installs a normal Ubuntu desktop.  Well, it has options for that, or a GUI-less install, (and maybe OEM, I'm not sure).
[02:13] <humblerodent> hi, there's got to be a fairly simple way of converting a PNG image into a 1-second-long MPEG2 movie with no sound, but I can't seem to figure out how....can anyone help?  TIA
[02:13] <carutsu> i need 1280 but its currently 1024, my xorg.conf shows that it is 1280 however it isnt
[02:13] <Orangekid13> total noob question... trying to install an NVIDIA driver and it says it "must be run as root"
[02:13] <n2diy_> Flannel, Roger that.
[02:13] <eriksay1> sudo
[02:13] <Orangekid13> what do i do
[02:13] <deep> Orangekid13: sudo
[02:13] <eriksay1> orangekid: sudo it
[02:13] <humblerodent> Orangekid13: put sudo in front of the command
[02:13] <humblerodent> lol
[02:13] <deep> hahah :D
[02:13] <Flannel> LjL: it has no packages.  Just the installer, packages all come from the interblag.
[02:13] <eriksay1> everyone jump on orangekid
[02:13] <humblerodent> lol
[02:13] <deep> Yeah :D
[02:13] <carutsu> even i knew that
[02:13] <Orangekid13> ok thanks
[02:14] <humblerodent> np
[02:14] <Orangekid13> well this is my first day
[02:14] <humblerodent> well, welcome :)
[02:14] <deep> Orangekid13, Welcome :D
[02:14] <humblerodent> you gotta endure the n00b jokes until you get good
[02:14] <humblerodent> it's worth it
[02:14] <Orangekid13> well first day off the live cd
[02:14] <carutsu> before i installed linux i readed a lot on windows, lol
[02:14] <lasse> its an honest question, dont laugh
[02:14] <LjL> humblerodent: i see "kipi-plugins" and "dvd-slideshow" that are probably able to do that
[02:14] <h-edge> first day, and installing Nvidia drivers... eek :)
[02:14] <humblerodent> LjL: I'll check those out, thanks.
[02:14] <FunnyMan3595> !sudo | Orangekid13
[02:14] <ubotu> Orangekid13: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:14] <humblerodent> h-edge: heh, yeah....
[02:14] <LjL> Flannel: but afaik that goes for the debian bc cd as well, except for packages that are considered necessary to make the cd itself run
[02:15] <eriksay1> anyone have experience setting up samba, specifically to share drives with windows, across a wireless network?
[02:15] <LjL> humblerodent: the keyword i looked for was "slideshow" - thought it made sense. just make one with only one image...
[02:15] <carutsu> unless is a graphical which must use gksudo
[02:15] <humblerodent> LjL: eww....kipi-plugins is KDE?  lol
[02:15] <LjL> humblerodent: well yes
[02:15] <humblerodent> yeah, that's an idea I suppose.
[02:15] <lasse> eriksay1, ive had lots of trouble with it :D
[02:15] <eriksay1> lasse: thanks
[02:15] <LjL> humblerodent: but then it says "MpegEncoder:        Create an MPEG slideshow from your images"
[02:15] <carutsu> any ideas about my problem?
[02:15] <humblerodent> true
[02:16] <Timeline> Hey everyone
[02:16] <arrenlex> !hi
[02:16] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:16] <Orangekid13> "You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing."
[02:16] <lasse> eriksay1, but i have resolved my problems though
[02:16] <Orangekid13> crappers
[02:16] <h-edge> anyone got any ideas about what I asked a minute ago :)
[02:16] <Orangekid13> i hate errors
[02:16] <humblerodent> Orangekid13: you gotta shutdown the X server
[02:16] <Orangekid13> what is it
[02:16] <lasse> eriksay1, whats your issue?
[02:16] <lasse> Orangekid13, sudo killall gdm
[02:16] <arrenlex> Orangekid13: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:16] <humblerodent> I would do a "sudo killall gdm" but that's a little unconvential....someone might have a better idea
[02:16] <arrenlex> xD
[02:16] <humblerodent> unconventional*
[02:17] <humblerodent> let's all jump on him again
[02:17] <humblerodent> lol
[02:17] <FunnyMan3595> Orangekid13: Beware, that kills your GUI.
[02:17] <Orangekid13> mmm tasty
[02:17] <arrenlex> Everyone! Orangekid13 is giving piggybacks!
[02:17] <humblerodent> be on the CTRL+ALT+F1 console to do that
[02:17] <GaiaX11> which is the program to convert mp3 into wmv in ubuntu?
[02:17] <lasse> Orangekid13, save open stuff
[02:17] <eriksay1> lasse: laptop, accessing the network wirelessly, cannot see the samba share
[02:17] <FunnyMan3595> Orangekid13: If you're not used to working at a command prompt, you'd better make sure you know how to do stuff there before you try that.
[02:17] <arrenlex> GaiaX11: How exactly do you convert a sound file into a video file?
[02:17] <Timeline> What's a good open-source WMA to MP3 converter for Windows and ubuntu?
[02:17] <lasse> eriksay1, your ubuntu laptop is samba client or server?
[02:17] <h-edge> ... you do realise telling him to kill X is going to confuse the hell out of him.
[02:17] <h-edge> lol
[02:18] <GaiaX11> arrenlex: sorry wma
[02:18] <Orangekid13> i'm gonna put this off, i have a math review packet for my final tomorrow and i have to study for my cpts 223 final tonight too
[02:18] <Orangekid13> ttfn
[02:18] <Orangekid13> thanks though
[02:18] <cablesm102> Timeline: VLC will convert anything it can open to anything else.
[02:18] <humblerodent> not a problem
[02:18] <cablesm102> but that may not be the best choice
[02:18] <LjL> Timeline: note that converting lossless->lossless like that is generally not a good idea. you'll lose quality
[02:18] <cablesm102> you mean lossy-lossy
[02:18] <lasse> cablesm102, no hes right
[02:19] <LjL> cablesm102: hm yeah, that i do
[02:19] <eriksay1> lasse: it's the pc that's ubuntu, that's the samba server
[02:19] <LjL> lasse: no i'm not
[02:19] <arrenlex> LjL: xD How does lossless->lossless lose quality?
[02:19] <eriksay1> lasse: the laptop is windows xp
[02:19] <LjL> arrenlex: it doesn't
[02:19] <eriksay1> (wife's computer)
[02:19] <cablesm102> Lossy-Lossy does. Not lossless-lossless
[02:19] <cablesm102> WMA, MP3 are lossy
[02:19] <lasse> LjL, it does... every convertion looses data
[02:19] <FunnyMan3595> arrenlex: Yeah, no kidding.  I'd best be careful the next time I try to zip up something that was in a tarball!
[02:19] <LjL> lasse: no
[02:19] <cablesm102> Not lossless-lossless though
[02:19] <cdavis_> when using ettercap arp poisoing it breaks my traffic flow to the gateway, any ideas?  this is a fresh install
[02:19] <arrenlex> lasse: Lossless by definition means no data is lost.
[02:19] <lasse> * not data, quality
[02:19] <arrenlex> Thus, lossLESS.
[02:19] <LjL> lasse: no
[02:20] <cablesm102> lasse, lossless encoding does not lose quality
[02:20] <lasse> pff, and  CDs sounds better than LPs?
[02:20] <carutsu> if no data is lost no quality is lost
[02:20] <carutsu> can anyone help me!?
[02:20] <eriksay1> lasse: i rightclick on the folder (in ubuntu) and set share properties > go to general windows setting, point it to the Domain / Workgroup that I setup on the laptop
[02:20] <LjL> lasse: what does that have to do with anything?
[02:20] <cablesm102> carutsu, with what?
[02:20] <cablesm102> i don't see anything above that you've written
[02:21] <carutsu> I'm on a laptop and my screen has a resolution of 1280, however it only displays 1024
[02:21] <Timeline> Well reason I'm asking, is a friend has an Ipod but can't play her WMA music she ripped from CDs. So I need to find a converter
[02:21] <lasse> LjL, i was thinking everyting, but im gonna back down, becuase im realising im on thin ice here
[02:21] <carutsu> i tried editing xorg.conf, with no results
[02:21] <h-edge> gleh, how do I disable secondary monitor on the fly?
[02:21] <carutsu> it even says that it suport 1280
[02:21] <lasse> eriksay1, hmm. the first thing you can try is the check if the workgroups match on both machines
[02:21] <h-edge> or stop programs loading onto that space.
[02:21] <LjL> lasse: you really are. if you're using a lossless format, it means everything that the soundcard managed to capture is there, bit by bit. if you convert that to another lossless format, you'll just be changing the... format. the data (i.e. sound) bits will remain the same.
[02:22] <cablesm102> carutsu, after you edited xorg, did you check the Resolution setting thing?
[02:22] <LjL> lasse: but MP3 and WMA (and Vorbis, etc) obviosuly are *lossy* format, my slip of the tongue notwithstanding, so converting between those *will* lose quality
[02:22] <carutsu> of course, i'm not that noob
[02:22] <arrenlex> lasse: What you are saying is if you take a .zip archive and change it into a .tar.gz archive, you lose data. This is incorrect. You just changed formats. They are both lossless compression schemes
[02:22] <arrenlex> (you would hope_
[02:22] <arrenlex> )
[02:23] <cablesm102> carutsu, are you sure you edited xorg correctly?
[02:23] <FunnyMan3595> arrenlex: That analogy sounds familiar...
[02:23] <sc4ttrbrain> carutsu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg ?
[02:23] <MacMatt> Hello!?
[02:23] <LjL> arrenlex: try the opposite... i'm not sure ZIP supports unix permissions :P
[02:23] <FunnyMan3595> !hi
[02:23] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:23] <carutsu> i havent't tried that
[02:23] <lasse> LjL, and here i was going around thinking I shouldnt do that because every convertion to on format to another no matter the type, will lose at least loose some small amount of quality,
[02:23] <cablesm102> sc4ttrbrain, that won't do much
[02:23] <arrenlex> FunnyMan3595: Sorry, did I steal someone else's analogy? xD I went downstairs for most of the argument.
[02:23] <cablesm102> carutsu, it's already been run when the system was installed
[02:23] <carutsu> oh
[02:23] <cablesm102> carutsu, that should only be necessary when you change monitors
[02:23] <FunnyMan3595> arrenlex: I'd directed it at you a bit ago, actually.  :)
[02:24] <carutsu> well i edited and added just a line
[02:24] <carutsu> let me see what was it
[02:24] <MacMatt> Looking to try Linux for the first time, ... is there a recommended way for setting it up on a iMac G5 ???
[02:24] <LjL> lasse: but that's untrue.
[02:24] <carutsu> something about line
[02:24] <GaiaX11> which is the program to convert mp3 into wav in ubuntu?
[02:24] <Timeline> LjL: So converting WMA to MP3 isn't a good idea? I should just tell her to re-rip everything to MP3?
[02:24] <FunnyMan3595> arrenlex: Made it particularly amusing to see you pick the same one.
[02:24] <LjL> lasse: lossy formats will, lossless formats just won't
[02:24] <lasse> LjL, then i learned something today
[02:24] <arrenlex> FunnyMan3595: OMG! You DID XD That is so weird. I did NOT see that.
[02:24] <LjL> Timeline: if possible, absolutely yes (well, actually, you might want to tell her to re-rip to Ogg Vorbis instead)
[02:24] <FunnyMan3595> Timeline: If that's an option, it'd certainly give the best quality.
[02:24] <lasse> LJL, btw, im going to check that up
[02:24] <LjL> Ubotu, tell Timeline about restricted | Timeline, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:24] <arrenlex> Maybe my subconscious did.
[02:24] <Red-Sox> hey guys
[02:24] <mike> I have a noob question
[02:24] <h-edge> anyone? disabling secondary monitor on the fly?... I suppose I could edit xorg.conf and restart X but thats ALOT of effort everytime I want to walk around with my laptop.
[02:25] <Red-Sox> 'Wonderin how to upload songs from my iPod
[02:25] <mike> can any of you point me to a page that shows the keyboard controls for beryl
[02:25] <lasse> h-edge, turn the power off?
[02:25] <Agiofws> how can you  send a movie to s-video to tv and still surf  the web on your monitor ? is that possible ?
[02:25] <Timeline> Will Ipods play ogg?
[02:25] <Red-Sox> Yeah
[02:25] <Red-Sox> Timeline: ^
[02:25] <rapid> Agiofws, yeah
[02:25] <cablesm102> carutsu, in Section "Screen" you will have to copy the most likely-looking profile, add it below the rest, but edit the resolution
[02:25] <sc4ttrbrain> mike: wiki.beryl-project.org ?
[02:25] <Agiofws> rapid,  how ?
[02:26] <h-edge> lasse: what exactly do you mean?
[02:26] <arrenlex> Timeline: No.
[02:26] <mike> They actually have no info on it.
[02:26] <carutsu> i just added this
[02:26] <humblerodent> LjL: dvd-slideshow seems like crap =P
[02:26] <carutsu> 	ModeLine "1280x800_60.00" 83.5 1280 1344 1480 1680 800 801 804 828
[02:26] <arrenlex> Timeline: just dump your wma to a .wav and then lame it to mp3.
[02:26] <mike> All I want to do is zoom out of my cube.
[02:26] <cablesm102> carutsu, then save open files and restart X (ctrl-alt-backspace)
[02:26] <rapid> Agiofws, you just have two screens setup
[02:26] <GaiaX11> which is the program to convert mp3 into wav in ubuntu?
[02:26] <humblerodent> I'll try the other one though
[02:26] <sc4ttrbrain> mike: they have ! i just read it when installing beryl
[02:26] <arrenlex> GaiaX11: Do you mean, wav to mp3?
[02:26] <lasse> h-edge, i was kidding, if you want to disable your secondary monitor on the fly, just turn it off, cut the power and so on
[02:26] <mx-> is programming in c on ubuntu easy?
[02:26] <mx-> I want to write some code
[02:26] <mx-> :D
[02:27] <arrenlex> mx-: c is c.
[02:27] <carutsu> the only mode avalible is 1280x800
[02:27] <levander> Why is everyone installing beryl now?  Isn't beryl supposed to be a lot more seemlessly integrated into feisty than it is with edgy?
[02:27] <Agiofws> rapid xinerama ?
[02:27] <sysdoc> mike,  the keyboard settings are in the beryl settings manager
[02:27] <hueblur> is anyone available to help a newb?
[02:27] <cablesm102> carutsu, try looking under Section "Screen"
[02:27] <FunnyMan3595> mx-: Programming in other languages is probably easier, but c is no harder on ubuntu than anywhere else.
[02:27] <cablesm102> hueblur, ask your question first
[02:27] <h-edge> lasse: heh, yeah... but that doesn't stop my laptop sticking programs over there :)
[02:27] <h-edge> because it has no idea its not there.
[02:27] <mike> thanks
[02:27] <kitche> mx-: you just have to install the gcc compiler
[02:27] <mx-> why you say that Funny
[02:27] <Timeline> arrenlex: How do I convert it to WAV then?
[02:27] <sc4ttrbrain> levander: beryl is good in edgy too ;)
[02:27] <carutsu> i though it should be added under monitor
[02:27] <rapid> Agiofws, that should be simple.
[02:27] <lasse> h-edge, what kind of video card?
[02:27] <lewyjh> !update
[02:27] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:27] <mx-> why would other languages b easier than c? wasn't ubuntu written in c?
[02:28] <GaiaX11> arrenlex: No. I want do turn mp3 into wav for playing in a normal radio cd player.
[02:28] <mx-> and have direct access to xlib
[02:28] <arrenlex> Timeline: How do you dump a stream to wav? It depends on what you use... mencoder can do it with the -ao pcm switch. I assume VLC can do it with whatever other switch.
[02:28] <levander> sc4ttrbrain: are a lot of people having trouble installing beryl in edgy?  It seems like it.
[02:28] <arrenlex> GaiaX11: lame can do that with the --decode switch
[02:28] <h-edge> intel i915.
[02:28] <cablesm102> carutsu, I added a resolution under Section "screen"
[02:28] <Agiofws> rapid,  the 2nd screen is a tv via s-video from graphic card ok ?
[02:28] <FunnyMan3595> mx-: C is not a particularly programmer-friendly language.  It's precise, fast, and interfaces with hardware pretty easily.
[02:28] <Agiofws> and how simple ?
[02:28] <h-edge> lasse: intel i915...
[02:28] <carutsu> ok, let me see
[02:28] <sc4ttrbrain> levander: for me its as simple as adding repo and apt-get
[02:28] <FunnyMan3595> mx-: But none of that is what a beginning programmer is really interested in.
[02:28] <rapid> Agiofws, Are they both up and running?
[02:28] <lasse> h-edge, i know nothing about intel. sorry
[02:28] <carutsu> should i add that: (	ModeLine "1280x800_60.00" 83.5 1280 1344 1480 1680 800 801 804 828)
[02:28] <levander> sc4ttrbrain: and, it came right up?
[02:28] <GaiaX11> arrenlex: Lame is a command line or a program?
[02:29] <arrenlex> GaiaX11: Yes.
[02:29] <h-edge> lasse: Ok, thanks anyway :)
[02:29] <sc4ttrbrain> levander: i use it everyday,even now ;D
[02:29] <LjL> GaiaX11: a command line program.
[02:29] <arrenlex> GaiaX11: That is, a command line program.
[02:29] <mike> Now all I need to know is how to zoom out of my 3d desktop
[02:29] <Timeline> arrenlex: My friend will probably need something that can run in windows
[02:29] <levander> sc4ttrbrain: but, what improvements are they making in feisty that that's supposed to be the big release for it?
[02:29] <FunnyMan3595> mx-: I'd go for perl or python as a starting language, myself.
[02:29] <arrenlex> Timeline: lame can run on windows. In the command line.
[02:29] <LjL> GaiaX11: if you want a GUI program, then why get one that converts to WAV? just get ones that can directly burn audio CDs from MP3s
[02:29] <agent> is there a terminal calculator that is included in ubuntu by default?
[02:29] <n2diy_> mike, try ctrl+ -
[02:29] <mx-> perl is the hardest language I know
[02:29] <Timeline> Ok thanks arrenlex
[02:29] <arrenlex> agent: expr 1 + 1
[02:29] <mx-> and I know quite a few
[02:29] <mx-> :P
[02:30] <levander> agent: i think it's called gcalc
[02:30] <engla> agent: there is bc I think?
[02:30] <sc4ttrbrain> levander: sorry,dunno about feisty development, but sure it will be stabil enough when feisty come
[02:30] <hueblur> ### I have a machine that doesn't have a CD on it, its one of those ultraportable dealios.  So, I went to my roomy's machine, installed ubuntu from the livecd to the USB HD, and - plugged that HD into my laptop.  It boots.  I rsync'd the system files to hda1, updated grub and fstab with the right UUID's but its not booting.  It hangs on the splash, "waiting for root filesystem"  clearly, I have done something wrong.  I don't even CARE
[02:30] <hueblur> about using the same system installed to the USB.  Is it possible to install to HDA while booted to the USB system?  just - start fresh?
[02:30] <mike> nothing
[02:30] <arrenlex> agent:  echo "1 + 1" | bc for a better one
[02:30] <GaiaX11> arrenlex: LjL . Which ones? K3b for example?
[02:30] <agent> levander: gcalc is a gnome calculator (and its not called gcal but some other name)
[02:30] <FunnyMan3595> mx-: Eh, it has its hard spots.  Passing a file pointer to a function is a headache, but most of the things I do tend to be string processing.
[02:30] <agent> arrenlex and engla thank you for the bc suggestion
[02:30] <humblerodent> LjL: in case you're wondering, I'm making a DVD with dvdauthor, and I want it to be able to go to the menu when "Next" is pressed on the last chapter.  But that doesn't work, so I need like a one-second "Please wait" type of screen to go in between the video and the menu call.
[02:30] <LjL> GaiaX11: yeah, i know that K3b and arson do it. but i'm sure there are Gnome programs that do it as well... gnomebaker perhaps
[02:30] <engla> agent: but it's kind of hard to work with and you have to run "bc -l" to even get float division (else you get integer division)
[02:31] <levander> hueblur: you can put an iso image on the USB HD, and mount it using the "loop" device
[02:31] <phlite> hi, apt-get is timing out for me, any ideas guys?
[02:31] <levander> hueblur: actually, i'm not sure how that would work...
[02:31] <agent> arrenlex: expr may actually work ;P
[02:31] <GaiaX11> LjL: I will see. Thx.
[02:31] <levander> hueblur: you can mount it, but i'm not sure where you would mount it...
[02:31] <jvai> hey every1, is glabels the best app for making business cards?
[02:31] <agent> engla: yeah, thank you
[02:31] <phlite> i try to do: sudo apt-get install xmms, times out, also sudo apt-get upgrade times out :( mirror prob?
[02:31] <FunnyMan3595> mx-: Ah, if you've got experience, just go with what you know.  That'll be the easiest regardless.
[02:31] <arrenlex> agent: Remember to escape your multiplication so bash doesn't glob it.
[02:31] <hueblur> I'm in ubuntu - surely, there has to be a way to install it to the HD.
[02:31] <cablesm102> phlite, I'd just try again later.
[02:32] <phlite> hasn't worked in 2 days
[02:32] <hueblur> maybe some hd install script somewheres.
[02:32] <agent> arrenlex: good tip, thank you!
[02:32] <age6racer> hey all... quick one... How do I 'sudo cp' a whole directory and it's subdirectories?
[02:32] <levander> hueblur: look in /etc/fstab and grub's menu.lst, i beet menu.lst is pointing at the wrong root partition
[02:32] <arrenlex> age6racer: cp -r <dir> <dir2>
[02:32] <phlite> age6racer: cp -R src dest
[02:32] <FunnyMan3595> mx-: Though I have been contemplating picking up python.  From what I hear, it actually resembles MOO a fair bit, and that's where I started programming.
[02:32] <mnoir> age6racer: man cp
[02:32] <hueblur> levender - I took great pain to find the right UUID.
[02:32] <age6racer> arrenlex: thanks
[02:32] <green_earz> phlite: apt-get update  then apt-get install xmms
[02:33] <phlite> green_earz: apt-get update times out
[02:33] <FunnyMan3595> mx-: And if you've never heard of the MOO programming language...  I'm not surprised in the least.
[02:33] <shwag> what should I change in /etc/sshd so that my server doesnt log me out ?
[02:33] <cdavis> when i turn on arp poisoning I can no longer send traffic from gateway to victim machine.  I enabled ip_forward, do I have to do somethign else?
[02:33] <levander> hueblur: shouldn't have been great pain, should have just been "vol_id <device name>", is that what you did?
[02:33] <arrenlex> FunnyMan3595: I used to have a cow that programmed in that.
[02:33] <hueblur> yes
[02:33] <n2diy_> Hueblur, I've encounterd permission problems using USB drives, you might want to tar your stuff before storing it on the USB drive, and then untar it on the target box.
[02:33] <arrenlex> FunnyMan3595: She wrote her own milking subsystem from scratch.
[02:33] <phlite> weird
[02:33] <phlite> now it works
[02:33] <hueblur> I used rsync to move the system files.
[02:34] <age6racer> and how do I delete? sorry I know this is basic stuff  :)
[02:34] <phlite> apt-get update worked now, guess there server was unavail for a bit , thx
[02:34] <humblerodent> LjL: this is insane....I get stupid errors from both programs
[02:34] <LjL> humblerodent: apt-cache show qdvdauthor, it's interesting to see the dependencies. don't bother to try installing it though, especially if you don't have Qt - here it segfaults
[02:34] <hueblur> Is there some way I can prep hda to do a netinstall?
[02:34] <FunnyMan3595> arrenlex: *chuckles*  It is actually a "real" language, at least in the sense of "existing".  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOO_(programming_language)
[02:34] <humblerodent> kipi-plugins says: /usr/bin/images2mpg: line 372: 1s: value too great for base (error token is "1s")
[02:35] <humblerodent> o_O
[02:35] <humblerodent> LjL: I know it.  I've tried persistently to use qdvdauthor.
[02:35] <hueblur> how can I prep hda to do a netinstall from within a USB booted system?
[02:35] <humblerodent> but I had to put up with one too many crashes, and I'm done with it.
[02:35] <hueblur> i don't even CARE about migrating the USB installed system
[02:35] <hueblur> I just want ubuntu on my harddrive.
[02:36] <humblerodent> oh....
[02:36] <humblerodent> I get it now....the manual page said "duration" not "duration in seconds" and the examples provided said "10s" and "1s"
[02:36] <humblerodent> so I used 1s
[02:36] <humblerodent> but it turns out 1 actually makes it work
[02:36] <humblerodent> =P
[02:36] <humblerodent> lovely
[02:36] <Phuzion> Is there a way to set transparency on windows in gnome?
[02:36] <trurl> Hi. does anyone know how to play .mov (quicktime) files within firefox (edgy standard install)?
[02:36] <cablesm102> trurl, try the mplayer mozilla extension
[02:37] <humblerodent> trurl: Automatix may set that up for you, but I'm not sure
[02:37] <arrenlex> !mozilla-mplayer | trurl
[02:37] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31-1 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 1616 kB
[02:37] <apokryphos> !automatix
[02:37] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:37] <humblerodent> I disagree....
[02:37] <humblerodent> I use it every time I install a new version of Ubuntu
[02:37] <cablesm102> !WorksForMe cablesm102
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about WorksForMe cablesm102 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <apokryphos> !worksforme
[02:37] <humblerodent> it is a beautiful tool
[02:37] <humblerodent> for me
[02:37] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:37] <cablesm102> !WorksForMe
[02:37] <apokryphos> humblerodent: please do not suggest it in this channel
[02:37] <trurl> thx @all
[02:38] <hueblur> automatix? was that for me?
[02:38] <cablesm102> trurl, hold on
[02:38] <trurl> ill stick with mozilla-mplayer then
[02:38] <humblerodent> apokryphos: apologies
[02:38] <cablesm102> sometimes mplayer-plugin won't work when totem is installed
[02:38] <cablesm102> i mean totem-mozilla
[02:38] <trurl> automatix doesnt sound like something i need
[02:38] <cablesm102> trurl, you definitely don't
[02:38] <apokryphos> trurl: if you want a broken system, yeah.
[02:39] <javier> sup
[02:39] <cablesm102> trurl, if you have problems with mozilla-mplayer, try removing totem-mozilla
[02:39] <cablesm102> Question: Is EasyUbuntu as bad as Automatix?
[02:39] <arrenlex> !easyubuntu
[02:39] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[02:39] <hueblur> How do I prep hda1 for a netinstall?
[02:39] <n2diy_> Speaking of broken, I tried to load the plugins for Firefox, and they hosed my box, has this happened to others?
[02:39] <arrenlex> "Use at your own risk" < " , and often fails and breaks systems. We strongly discourage its use"
[02:40] <arrenlex> So I'm guessing no?
[02:40] <Manatux> Alguien habla espanol?
[02:40] <jrib> !es | Manatux
[02:40] <ubotu> Manatux: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:40] <arrenlex> !es | Manatux
[02:40] <humblerodent> I'm getting about ready to just type the mpeg file out myself
[02:40] <arrenlex> Aw!
[02:40] <arrenlex> *loses*
[02:40] <humblerodent> X_X
[02:40] <jrib> too slow!
[02:40] <Manatux> ok thanks
[02:40] <humblerodent> this shouldn't be that difficult....I've done WAY more complex stuff than this in much less time, especially on Linux....
[02:41] <calm> i'm trying to print some lecture slides, so that there are 4 slides to 1 page, like this: http://elegant.stanford.edu/likethis.png
[02:41] <FunnyMan3595> humblerodent: Reminds me of trying to get midi files working.  ><
[02:41] <calm> this is surprisingly hard to do
[02:41] <LjL> humblerodent: i'm having bad luck with the various tools as well... look, i know this sounds quite stupid, however... what about you take some desktop recording software (such as istanbul, records to Theora, but oh well), and run it while having the image you need in full-screen?
[02:41] <arrenlex> calm: Surprisingly hard to do using what program?
[02:41] <user__> Hi all
[02:41] <humblerodent> FunnyMan3595: for real.
[02:41] <FunnyMan3595> !hi | user__
[02:41] <ubotu> user__: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:42] <humblerodent> LjL: at this point, it sounds remarkably intelligent
[02:42] <novo> ssorry about that
[02:42] <mx-> no one greeted me
[02:42] <humblerodent> I will try that.
[02:42] <jrib> mx-: greets
[02:42] <mx-> its because im white isn't it?
[02:42] <trurl> if i mark totem-mozilla for complete removal, synaptic wants to remove 'ubuntu-desktop'....gnaaa! <g>
[02:42] <mx-> its a race thing
[02:42] <mx-> I knew it
[02:42] <phlite> anyone know how i could disable my laptop sleep switch?
[02:42] <FunnyMan3595> mx-: Actually, you look teal to me...
[02:42] <jrib> !ubuntu-desktop | trurl
[02:42] <ubotu> trurl: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[02:42] <phlite> for when you close the lid?
[02:42] <arrenlex> mx-: You're red here.
[02:42] <mx-> lol
[02:43] <arrenlex> mx-: Actually, I would say magenta.
[02:43] <novo> How do I unset my channel using iwconfig?
[02:43] <trurl> ubotu: oic
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <mx-> what is that pink?
[02:43] <mx-> don't make me pink :(
[02:43] <arrenlex> mx-: That is darker than pink but lighter than red.
[02:43] <calm> arrenlex: argh. nevermind. i figured it out...
[02:43] <arrenlex> mx-: But don't you want to be pretty? ;)
[02:43] <FunnyMan3595> !ubotu | trurl
[02:43] <ubotu> trurl: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:43] <arrenlex> calm: Alright, good to hear.
[02:43] <mx-> haha
[02:43] <calm> arrenlex: it works using evince
[02:44] <humblerodent> LjL: the irony is that if I could find an Ubuntu-compatible package that provides the damned "mpeg2encode" command, I'd be all set, lol
[02:44] <arrenlex> calm: What format was the presentation in?
[02:44] <calm> arrenlex: i tried acrobat, and i also tried "lp" from the command line
[02:44] <trurl> FunnyMan3595: bots are also person who deserve a thank you ;)
[02:44] <calm> arrenlex: pdf
[02:44] <trurl> s/person/persons
[02:44] <jrib> humblerodent: mpeg2enc good enough?
[02:44] <FunnyMan3595> !thanks | trurl
[02:44] <ubotu> trurl: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[02:44] <novo> Anyone know how to unset my channel for my wireless card using iwconfig?  I set it to a secific channel and now I want it to be unset.
[02:45] <dope_> does anyone use connection-manager and have WPA working?  I'm having some issues.  Might won't connect at all.  my wireless card is called rausb0 instead of wlan0 is that a prob?
[02:45] <trurl> FunnyMan3595: has this thing an answer for everything?
[02:45] <LjL> humblerodent: i succeeded
[02:45] <FunnyMan3595> !kitchensink
[02:45] <LjL> humblerodent: the command is "mpeg2end", and it's provided by mpegtools
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kitchensink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <FunnyMan3595> trurl: Apparently not.
[02:45] <LjL> Ubotu, tell humblerodent about apt-file | humblerodent, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:45] <arrenlex> trurl: As we have learned to our detriment, it does not know how to respond when asked for either the cure for cancer or the meaning of life. = /
[02:46] <LjL> humblerodent: jpeg2yuv -I p -f 25 -j inputimage.jpg | mpeg2enc -o test.mpg             although 1) inputimage.jpg must have an even size  2) you must interrupt (ctrl+c) mpeg2enc manually when you've reached the number of frames you want
[02:46] <LjL> humblerodent: (although i suppose the -n option, or something, would relieve you from that, i just haven't tried)
[02:47] <trurl> arrenlex: but, as everybody knows, the answer to the latter is '42'
[02:47] <trurl> !42
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 42 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <Phuzion> Is there a way to set transparency on windows in gnome?
[02:47] <FunnyMan3595> trurl: Yeah, someone should put that into him.
[02:47] <calm> arrenlex: the only thing is: the "page orientation" option for printing from evince seems a bit broken. if i try page orientation: "landscape" and layout: "4 pages to 1", my printer (an HP deskjet 6540) just starts loading a page, and then freezes
[02:47] <trurl> darn ;)
[02:47] <arrenlex> trurl: If ubuntu does not say it's 42, then it cannot be.
[02:47] <jvai> lol
[02:47] <jvai> smh
[02:48] <dope_> does anyone use connection-manager and have WPA working?  I'm having some issues.  Might won't connect at all.  my wireless card is called rausb0 instead of wlan0 is that a prob?
[02:48] <arrenlex> calm: Don't use evince, sorry. It does not offer sufficient printing options. kpdf is ahead of it by leaps and bounds.
[02:48] <trurl> arrenlex: we just ask the wrong question...
[02:48] <calm> arrenlex: hmm... i'll look in to that
[02:48] <arrenlex> calm: If you don't run kde then you'll have to install like a thousand libraries to use it; don't bother.
[02:49] <Toma-> anyone know how to take a screenshot to include videocard devices? i cant get a pic with the tvtime window in it :(
[02:49] <humblerodent> oh dude that command did it
[02:49] <humblerodent> thanks =D
[02:49] <Catshrimp> Anyone using an ati graphics card?
[02:50] <arrenlex> Catshrimp: I am. Problems?
[02:50] <humblerodent> I feel n00bish for not knowing about apt-file.
[02:50] <calm> arrenlex: too late, already installing =D
[02:50] <humblerodent> anyway, that one worked, so thank you very much, I appreciate it =)
[02:50] <Catshrimp> I can't get glxinfo | grep -i opengl to show that I have the correct driver installed
[02:50] <sorroww> is there a frontend for wine?
[02:50] <sorroww> or a gui
[02:50] <arrenlex> sorroww: A gui for doing what?
[02:50] <Catshrimp> I've run both "sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx" and "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:50] <LjL> humblerodent: wasn't needed in that case anyway, since mpeg2enc was already install by mjpegtools which was installed by all those slideshow programs you tried and probably dvdauthor ;)
[02:51] <kitche> sorroww: no since wine is only used to start the .exe program
[02:51] <Catshrimp> But glxinfo still shows that the mesa driver is being used
[02:51] <trurl> Okay, all i get is 'Totem could not play 'fd://0'' when i try to view a .mov via plugin, whats wrong?
[02:51] <bruenig> sorroww, there is no need for one, just wine "/path/to/executable" and go. Wine is merely an compatability layer. It doesn't really actively do anything worthy of a frontend
[02:51] <arrenlex> Catshrimp: What card?
[02:51] <humblerodent> I'm sure I already had mjpegtools anyway.  I do a lot of media stuff.
[02:51] <Catshrimp> x1400 radeon mobility
[02:51] <sorroww> alright
[02:51] <humblerodent> which adds even more insult to the fact that I didn't know how to do this.
[02:51] <humblerodent> =P
[02:51] <LjL> sorroww, what is it that you need to do?
[02:51] <sorroww> something that runs the occisaional exe
[02:52] <sorroww> a gui would jsut have bene cool
[02:52] <humblerodent> ah....I should have known there is jpeg2yuv, lol xD
[02:52] <LjL> sorroww, here i can just click on the exe i think... but then i'm on KDE
[02:52] <arrenlex> Catshrimp: Please pastebin the output of: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver | grep -v "#"
[02:52] <humblerodent> there is png2yuv too.
[02:52] <shwag> so phpmyadmin setup generate  /var/lib/phpmyadmin/config.inc.php  do I move this to /etc/phpmyadmin/ ?
[02:52] <LjL> sorroww: perhaps installing the "binfmt-support" package (and making sure your exe files are +x...) would help. not really sure though
[02:53] <jvai> gn ppl... ty
[02:53] <arrenlex> LjL: No. That's not what it's for. You have to define an association.
[02:53] <LjL> arrenlex: doesn't it come with some defaults?
[02:53] <arrenlex> LjL: The reason they open for you is because you have konqueror set to open exe in wine, same as you have it set to open htm in firefox or whatever.
[02:53] <arrenlex> LjL: It might on KDE; it's very good about things like that. In Gnome? No idea.
[02:53] <LjL> arrenlex: ok, wouldn't something very much like that be doable on Gnome still?
[02:54] <arrenlex> LjL: Definitely. Nautilus options.
[02:54] <Catshrimp> arrenlex: http://pastebin.ca/277278
[02:54] <sorroww> meh
[02:54] <sorroww> i can live without it
[02:54] <LjL> sorroww: then see what arrenlex said. dig in your nautilus options and associate .exe files with wine
[02:54] <sorroww> lol im so used to command lines though
[02:54] <Catshrimp> arrenlex: xorg.conf shows that it should be using the fglrx.  But if it is, why wouldn't it render the ati information upon "glxinfo | grep -i opengl" ?
[02:55] <AntiNinja> penis
[02:55] <trurl> I've installed 'mozilla-mplayer', removed 'totem-mozilla. restarted firefox but i cant view .movs on a page. All i get is "Totem could not play 'fd://0'" as an error. Can someone help?
[02:55] <sorroww> but is there anyway to format my windows partition?
[02:55] <LjL> sorroww: uhm... if you're used to commands line, then why do you want this in the first place? :P
[02:55] <arrenlex> Catshrimp: and "glxinfo | grep ender" ?
[02:55] <sciboy> Hey guys, what am i missing that's causing this? http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/17/helpsb3.jpg
[02:55] <LjL> sorroww: ...?
[02:55] <sorroww> just to see what its like
[02:55] <Catshrimp> arrenlex: GLX_ATI_render_texture && OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect"
[02:55] <arrenlex> It's so cool when ops are actually here. :D
[02:55] <Phuzion> !handbrak
[02:55] <Phuzion> !handbrake
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about handbrak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about handbrake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <arrenlex> Catshrimp: Could you pastebin "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" please?
[02:56] <sciboy> Anyone have any ideas? =|
[02:56] <LjL> Phuzion, no playing with the bot please
[02:56] <Catshrimp> arrenlex sure, one minute
[02:56] <Gigaamd> whats up peeps.  Can  anyone help a newbie here?
[02:56] <arrenlex> Catshrimp: Also, "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" would help
[02:56] <Phuzion> It was a typo, and I was trying to see if it had any info, chill
[02:56] <arrenlex> Gigaamd: That's what we're here for!
[02:56] <LjL> !helpme | Gigaamd
[02:56] <ubotu> Gigaamd: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:56] <Catshrimp> arrenlex, what would be a quick visual editor to install?
[02:57] <LjL> Phuzion: you can do that in a private query with the bot
[02:57] <arrenlex> Catshrimp: in gnome? Gedit.
[02:57] <Phuzion> ok
[02:57] <LjL> !bot | Phuzion
[02:57] <ubotu> Phuzion: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:57] <Catshrimp> arrenlex: first *nix desktop and not sure about all the apps.  arrenlex, I'm running fluxbox
[02:57] <humblerodent> wtf....720x480 is NTSC DVD res....isn't it?
[02:57] <masse|applying> quick question...after installing linux, i ahd to reinstall windows on my toehr partition, and now it doesnt give me teh option to boot back into linux...
[02:57] <masse|applying> i'm a nub
[02:57] <arrenlex> Catshrimp: I think gedit probably. I dunno.
[02:57] <pablasso> how can i know if my MoBo supports SATA I (1.5GB) or SATA II (3GB), i can't seem anything related at /proc and its not specified at the vendor site
[02:57] <humblerodent> masse|applying: you should have done windows first
[02:57] <Gigaamd> I need to know how to install firefox using mozilla not the apt or terminal.  I did search and cannot get an honest way of doing it.  I am using kubuntu 6.10.  I like kubuntu.
[02:57] <humblerodent> because you see
[02:58] <phlite> hi, having issue mounting samba volume in ubuntu, i'm trying: sudo mount -t smbfs //comp/share /var/mp3
[02:58] <arrenlex> !grub | masse|applying
[02:58] <LjL> Ubotu, tell masse|applying about grub | masse|applying, see the private message from Ubotu
[02:58] <humblerodent> Microshaft installs a bootloader which bypasses any other OSes and goes straight to windows.
[02:58] <Catshrimp> arrenlex: I'll let ya know soon as I get it pastebinned
[02:58] <ubotu> masse|applying: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:58] <sorroww> how do i format a partition with fdisk
[02:58] <pablasso> man fdisk
[02:58] <pablasso> o wait
[02:58] <LjL> sorroww: fdisk edits the partition table, it doesn't format
[02:58] <trurl> Anyone? No idea? help! ;)
[02:58] <pablasso> no formatting with fdisk
[02:58] <LjL> sorroww: you need mkfs to format
[02:58] <sorroww> oh ok
[02:58] <masse|applying> so i need to put grub on a flopppy then
[02:58] <Gigaamd> use qt paritition!!
[02:58] <arrenlex> masse|applying: You want the first link =P
[02:58] <masse|applying> or reinstall ubuntu..not like i did much to change it anyway
[02:59] <masse|applying> you guys rock
[02:59] <humblerodent> LjL: would you have any idea why my mpg would look fine, but then the resulting DVD data would look all scrambled up on the screen?
[02:59] <LjL> masse|applying, i'm not sure about the specifics, but i think you can do it with just the Ubuntu CD and no need for a floppy. i guess that page has more information though
[02:59] <Gigaamd> anyone live in the tampabay area that could train a newbie??
[03:00] <arrenlex> humblerodent: Do you have ntsc\pal settings correct?
[03:00] <LjL> humblerodent: scrambled like what? perhaps you have the wrong interlacing set in that command? (i used progressive, i.e. no interlacing)
[03:00] <humblerodent> yeah, I would think you'd be able to boot the CD up and re-install GRUB.
[03:00] <jlgutier01> hello
[03:00] <arrenlex> !hi
[03:00] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:00] <jlgutier01> tks
[03:00] <humblerodent> arrenlex: yeah, it's NTSC; I used mplex -f 8 to make the final mpeg that I used
[03:00] <zappa420> hi ya.  got a wierd problem.  I'm trying  to do phone support for a friend I converted to Ubuntu Edgy.  Everythings been fine so far.  Her networking is down and ifconfig isn't showing an IP.  So I'm trying to haver her sudo ifdown/ifup eth1 or ./etc/init.d/networking restart but the commands arent being found when she uses sudo.  the commands are there if she doesnt use sudo but then ofcourse they don;t work.  any ideas?
[03:00] <sorroww> how do i get mkfs?
[03:00] <jlgutier01> sorry_
[03:01] <LjL> sorroww: it's a standard command. you have it. type "man mkfs"
[03:01] <sorroww> oh
[03:01] <humblerodent> LjL: it's scrambled almost like it used rows for columns and vice versa, ya know?  lol.  Like the pixels are all goofy looking.
[03:01] <phlite> fuck, ubuntu doesn't come with smbfs support? whats easiest way to get around not rebuilding the kernel with support?  how do they plan on mounting samba shares?
[03:01] <humblerodent> LjL: and I wouldn't really know how to change the interlacing....
[03:01] <LjL> humblerodent: hmm, i dunno
[03:01] <arrenlex> !language | phlite
[03:01] <green_earz> pablasso: the app hwinfo may give you more info about what the board can do sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[03:01] <ubotu> phlite: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:01] <LjL> !language | phlite
[03:01] <Toma-> !samba
[03:01] <arrenlex> *wins*
[03:01] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:01] <LjL> Ubotu, tell phlite about samba | phlite, see the private message from Ubotu
[03:01] <Gigaamd> !helpme
[03:01] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:01] <LjL> phlite: cifs perhaps, since smbfs is obsoleted since an age
[03:02] <pablasso> green_earz: thanks ill give it a try
[03:02] <carutsu> I'm back guys, jeje, well I've downladed the right driver for my card from intel's page, can anyone tell me how to install it?
[03:02] <green_earz> np
[03:02] <phlite> LjL: hmm trying to mount a samba share tho
[03:02] <carutsu> it says is Linux's driver even is on a zipped tar