[13:51] <icek0ld> dual boot not affraid
[13:51] <Slart> DexterLB: yes.. ahhh.. sorry.. you were running server.. sorry.. forgot that
[13:51] <icek0ld> can u read
[13:51] <SPhcT> where i can find drivers for webcam?
[13:51] <xro> bigpresh, but it's a python script that writes in my /var/spool/cron/crontabs... why i can't write in this file?
[13:51] <erUSUL> !webcam
[13:51] <Slart> DexterLB: hang.. let me see what I can find
[13:51] <jussi01> DexterLB: you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[13:52] <DexterLB> well I'm not using ubuntu server
[13:52] <DexterLB> I'm using regular ubuntu
[13:52] <DexterLB> but with gui removed
[13:52] <bigpresh> xro: I believe crond will ignore you, as the changes should be made with the crontab command
[13:53] <indus> SPhcT, which webcam? generally drivers ar enot required
[13:53] <bigpresh> xro: You can overwrite the current crontab with one from a file using 'crontab -e -u username filename'
[13:54] <bigpresh> xro: Also, beware that if the machine is configured correctly, the www-data user won't have a shell.  If that's the case, cron won't run any commands for them
[13:54] <Slart> DexterLB: couldn't really find anything useful about running pulseaudio without X.. launchpad seems to be offline at the moment
[13:55] <xro> bigpresh, i added a shell
[13:56] <xro> bigpresh, crontab -e -u www-data /var/spool/cron/crontabs/www-data   -->  crontab: usage error: no arguments permitted after this option
[13:56] <zumbrujm> join /##php-support
[13:57] <Slart> DexterLB: this might be useful http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/CLI
[13:57] <bigpresh> xro: Apologies, omit the -e option if you want it to read a crontab from a file, as opposed to launching an editor to edit the crontab
[13:57] <DexterLB> thanks
[13:58] <xro> bigpresh, crontab -u www-data /var/spool/cron/crontabs/www-data  that works fine
[13:58] <xro> bigpresh, but that means i can't edit my crontab with python?
[13:59] <xro> bigpresh, or should do a --> os.system("crontab -u www-data /var/spool/cron/crontabs/www-data")
[13:59] <bigpresh> xro: That ought to work, if a bit bodgy
[14:00] <SPhcT> how i can now what webcam have my pc?
[14:00] <llutz> SPhcT: lsusb
[14:00] <michaeldobrovits> lsusb
[14:00] <bigpresh> SPhcT: You might get some ideas with lsusb | grep -i cam
[14:01] <bigpresh> (Assuming that your webcam identifies itself with a name including 'cam'; it might not; in that case, just lsusb and look for it)
[14:01] <SPhcT> maybe it is Genesys Logic
[14:01] <guaaPiisiiMaa> olaa
[14:02] <SPhcT> where i find driver for it tryed cheese dont work
[14:02] <SetiAmon> hey with linux do you need to worry about "secure deletion" i mean if i delete something in linux is it really deleted?
[14:02] <miliear> 111
[14:03] <kwork> SetiAmon,  if you delete smt in any operating system is it really deleted ?
[14:03] <michaeldobrovits> SetiAmon, no, check for shred command
[14:03] <bigpresh> SetiAmon: The space on disk is marked as no longer used, but the data is still there, and could be retrieved
[14:03] <xro> bigpresh, ok so it's not possible to directly write in the crontab files... it works in /etc/crontab but not in /var/spool/cron/.../www-data     do you understant it?
[14:03] <michaeldobrovits> SetiAmon, if it doesn't exist install it in synaptics
[14:03] <SetiAmon> Yeah I have SRM i generally do a   srm * -V when i want to get rid of files
[14:03] <bigpresh> xro: Yes - you shouldn't mess with the files in /var/spool/cron as I originally said :)
[14:04] <bigpresh> xro: Or, if you do mess with them, be aware that crond won't notice
[14:04] <SetiAmon> So other then SRM and LVX is there anyway to improve my security?
[14:04] <bigpresh> SetiAmon: Don't store stuff you don't want someone to find? :)
[14:04] <michaeldobrovits> SetiAmon, shreding the disc
[14:04] <michaeldobrovits> type man shred in console
[14:05] <SPhcT> So i need driver for this part: Bus 007 Device 003: ID 05e3:0503 Genesys Logic, Inc.
[14:05] <bigpresh> SPhcT: Google for 05e3:0503
[14:07] <SetiAmon> Bigpresh:well thats kind of diffacult,dont you have personal or business information on your computer you don't want others to find?
[14:07] <bigpresh> SetiAmon: I was joking, hence the smiley
[14:08] <bigpresh> SetiAmon: To securely delete a file, try the 'shred' command as mentioned by michaeldobrovits
[14:08] <bigpresh> SetiAmon: You could also consider whole-disc encryption, which will help if the hardware was physically stolen
[14:09] <SPhcT> bigpresh: ty for now...
[14:09] <Vkr324> Hey everyone, I have a triple boot Vista-Ubuntu-Ubuntu (2 versions) and I want to remove one of the versions of ubuntu (just one, i need the other one). Do I simply reclaim that partition? effect should be GRUB with dual boot Vista-Ubuntu
[14:10] <al1irv> I've got anAsus eeepc model 904 running XP wjat's thebest to put on on it, ubuntu remix, eeebuntu or easypeasy and what's the difference?
[14:10] <michaeldobrovits> SetiAmon, encryption can be dencrypted but it will need the goverment to come and get a warrent to use somekind of super computer to decrypt
[14:11] <michaeldobrovits> SetiAmon, if this is not the deal you can just shred and make the data overwritten by anychance of recovery
[14:12] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: Where is Grub  installed, into the MBR like normal?
[14:12] <Vkr324> yes
[14:12] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: Ok one of those versions of Ubuntu well it's Grub, will control your Grub, any idea which?
[14:12] <manchurian> hello is there anybody with experience of mantis on ubuntu?
[14:13] <Vkr324> i guess the first one I put on there seeing as i used grub from that point on. or does overlaying another ubuntu give that ubuntu the grub?
[14:13] <Vkr324> any way of checking this?
[14:13] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: typing wrong thing there, anyway I mean to put  that  one of those versions of Ubuntu, it's Grub will control it all
[14:13] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: Which versions are on there? Which did you put on first?
[14:14] <Vkr324> first the 8.04, then the most recent one, but that one doesn't seem to agree with my asus so I'd like to remove it for now
[14:14] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: if you delete the wrong /boot   your Grub boot longer will no longer work
[14:14] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: well it will show Grub menu, but it won't boot stuff
[14:14] <manchurian> mantis can not send e-mail to new users signed up
[14:14] <Vkr324> yeah I figured, any way of figuring out which of the two is controlling the grub?
[14:14] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: ok
[14:15] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: then you put 9.10 on,  and it just worked/
[14:15] <sebsebseb> ?
[14:15] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: could boot them both up?
[14:15] <Vkr324> yeah it all boots fine, but there's some issues in the latest version i have not time to deal with for the moment, so i'd like to get rid of that partition
[14:16] <manchurian> nobody?
[14:16] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: are you on Ubuntu now?
[14:16] <Vkr324> nope, different machine (mac)
[14:16] <hipitihop> is there a graphical diff tool that easily lets me compare files in different directories .. actually one set is via an ssh session
[14:16] <Mateo_> :(  i still have my grub problem ... i've installed ubuntu with wubi times ago, and this morning computer shutted off, after a reboot, when i choose Ubuntu on the selection page, i get a page with GRUB4DOS Memory  625K / 3063M menuend: 0x4352E
[14:16] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: well first you need to find out which  install is controlling Grub
[14:16] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: it's probably 8.04 since that went on first, but maybe not
[14:16] <Vkr324> ok, any way of checking this?
[14:17] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: sure, but  need to be on Ubuntu really
[14:17] <erUSUL> hipitihop: meld?
[14:17] <Vkr324> also, will the grub figure out that a partition has been deleted and not show that OS in the list anymore?
[14:17] <hipitihop> erUSUL, looking it up, thanks
[14:17] <Vkr324> or will it show the os and then simply fault when you try to boot it
[14:17] <SPhcT> ho i can install widows driver for webcam..?
[14:17] <hoonteke> anyone have any word on this HAL removal business?  I'm specifically worried about the ability to use my touchpad with Lucid ...
[14:17] <rcombo> Hi all, has anyone successfully burnt ubuntu 9.10 desktop I keep having "errors found on 2 files" after a disk check run
[14:17] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: no I don't think so, but that can be edited,  hopefuly it's  the 8.04 Grub that is controlling it all, since  that's easier to deal with than this new Grub 2, for most of us
[14:18] <howlymowly> hi guys.. short question:  i put the "swallower" applet in my gnome panel.. but I can not remove it anymore.. it keeps asking me for a window to swallow on every log in..  any idea how to remove that applet?  I am not able to click on it in the panel, since for some reason its invisible...
[14:18] <soreau> ! webcam | SPhcT
[14:18] <Vkr324> by editing that, do you mean something like the boot.ini?
[14:18] <SPhcT> grate...
[14:18] <michaeldobrovits> rcombo, probably and error
[14:18] <hoonteke> rcombo: yep.  Burnt lots of copies of it.  Are you sure you have an error-free iso?  Consider using torrent to download instead as that will guarantee it's error free
[14:18] <Vkr324> but then ubuntu style
[14:18] <SPhcT> i alredy tryet that
[14:18] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: oh it's you who i was talking earlier right ?
[14:18] <sebsebseb> Vlet: can you turn that computer on now?  and when Grub shows, what does it say at the top if anything?
[14:18] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: yeah
[14:19] <sebsebseb> Vlet:  whoops wrong one,   Vkr324 see above
[14:19] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: i'm now on a livecd , can you send me again the link please ?
[14:19] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: link to what, dual boot?
[14:19] <Mateo_> yep
[14:20] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: oh you were the one that wanted to get data from Wubi?
[14:20] <Vkr324> can't access that computer now, but I'll check once i can get to it. how do i then edit the list of OSses that the grub shows? in the remaining ubuntu right?
[14:20] <hipitihop> erUSUL, heh software center fails to install meld due to untrusted sources..checking if synaptic does better
[14:20] <Mateo_> at least get the data and if i can, get my wubi install back with everything ...
[14:20] <sebsebseb> !dualboot |  Mateo_
[14:21] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: in the long run it's better to use real partitions,  also  it's possible to convert a Wubi install into real partitions, but you have some issue with that, so I guess just do real partitions, once you got data
[14:21] <jeke> I think i have deleted a loaded kernel module can i still unload that module?
[14:21] <icek0ld> whenever I change my host/computer name it's seems to say host:name unresolved
[14:21] <icek0ld> any fix
[14:21] <rcombo> hoonteke: my last attempt was with a torrent client kget but I ended up with the same result, i'm going through my 4th wasted cd :(
[14:21] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi all, having real trouble connecting ot the internet.
[14:21] <Jimi_Neutral> i can ping
[14:21] <Jimi_Neutral> everything is the same as the other obxes
[14:22] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: if it says Grub beta 4 or something like that at the top, then you got Grub 2  karmc/9.10's  Grub
[14:22] <Jimi_Neutral> that work
[14:22] <hoonteke> rcombo: step 2: consider using cd-rw then, not cd-rs
[14:22] <erUSUL> Jimi_Neutral: all in one line
[14:22] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: Windows is on there as well?
[14:22] <hoonteke> rcombo: also, consider installing to a USB key instead
[14:22] <Vkr324> yah
[14:22] <Jimi_Neutral> erUSUL, yeah sorry, having a very stressy day
[14:22] <Vkr324> vista sadly
[14:22] <hoonteke> I believe there's a utility in 9.04 called USB Creator.
[14:22] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: i'm going to take a look but if i can't get it bak, how can i get my data from a wubi ?
[14:23] <erUSUL> Jimi_Neutral: no need to be sorry. in multiple lines is hard to follow you. so it is in your interest
[14:23] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: What's your partition set up like, it seems you want to remove the other Ubuntu to make space,  if you had set up partitions properly enough in the first place, then there probably woudn't be a need to remove another partition,  other than simpally to get rid of it, because not wanting that version
[14:23] <icek0ld> ok
[14:23] <icek0ld> ok
[14:23] <icek0ld> whenever I change my host/computer name it's seems to say host:name unresolved
[14:23] <Jimi_Neutral> erUSUL, yeah I know, forgot though, as I said, evey stressy day with people on my back and was typing how im talking at the moment lol
[14:23] <FloodBot2> icek0ld: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:23] <hoonteke> rcombo: it also may be an issue that you're burning too fast for the media.  try burning at a slower speed, like 4x.
[14:24] <sebsebseb> Anyone about at the moment that knows how to get data from the wubi file?   If so Mateo_  would benefit from your help
[14:24] <rcombo>  hoonteke: tx, could be as well the burning speed
[14:24] <Jimi_Neutral> So, my internet connection is fine, i am talking to you on this box which is in a switch which is in a router downstairs....the box that wont connect is in this switch too....it pings this machine and this machine pings that one it also pings <IP_ADDRESS> but it wont connect to the internet
[14:24] <hoonteke> rcombo:  tx?
[14:25] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: sometimes people in here who know wubi quite well, but this doesn't seem like one of those times
[14:25] <Vkr324> small business running on ubuntu, one of my colleagues "accidentally" installed the newest ubuntu as a third boot alongside vista and U8.04, but is not pleased with it and wants to get rid of it (just wants it out of the grub list, really, for neatness). So I'll just go into Vista, delete the 9.10 partition and that's that?
[14:25] <hoonteke> oh, thanks.  yeesh, spell it out.  :-P
[14:25] <phong_> sebsebseb, hi
[14:25] <erUSUL> sebsebseb: what is the wubi file? the image file? maybe it can be mounted throug a loop device?
[14:25] <phong_> sebsebseb, how are you?
[14:25] <sebsebseb> erUSUL: yes that's what I mean
[14:25] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: Sounds like a nameserver issue. What is in /etc/resolv.conf?
[14:25] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: ok I think erUSUL  can help you, but you will need to tell him what your trying to do or want to do and all that
[14:26] <jpt9> Hey.  I just set up an Ubuntu 9.10 box with ssh.  I'm having some problems getting the terminal type/encoding matched up.  I'm using both PuTTY and ssh under Cygwin on my Windows box to connect...
[14:26] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: thank you very much
[14:26] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, cant open it
[14:26] <icek0ld> I entered my desired computer name under host in the .conf
[14:26] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: gksu gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[14:27] <SPhcT> ow i can install windows webcam driver for ubuntu 9.10
[14:27] <icek0ld> whenever I run sudo the host says unresolved but code still runs
[14:27] <sebsebseb> erUSUL: his Wubi won't load,  he has some data he wants to get hold of, important data,  so that's what he wants help with at the moment
[14:27] <erUSUL> sebsebseb: Mateo_ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20can%20I%20access%20the%20Wubi%20files%20from%20Windows?
[14:27] <rcombo>  hoonteke: I am using a an cd drive emulator when on Xp to test the iso, and it loads ton of error msg
[14:27] <soreau> ! webcam | SPhcT
[14:27] <Mateo_> erUSUL: actually i'm running a liveCD  if it's easier
[14:27] <SPhcT> soreau show me where is writen about windows there?
[14:28] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: when your ready to do real partitions,  I can help you set up a good set up
[14:28] <soreau> SPhcT: You dont want to use windows drivers on linux.
[14:28] <hoonteke> rcombo: you're using winxp to test the ISO?  The CD can actually test itself.  Try to boot the current machine with the CD you just burned.  The very first menu you get will give you the option to "Check CD for defects"
[14:28] <erUSUL> Mateo_: see the instructions under How can I access my Wubi install and repair my install if it won't boot?
[14:28] <hoonteke> that will tell you more definitively if youv'e errors, than any emulator in Windows.
[14:28] <erUSUL> Mateo_: that tells you how to mount the wubi disk from a livecd once is mounted you can access the data inside
[14:28] <jeke> How can i check if ssh will start on reboot
[14:29] <Vkr324> @sebsebseb could you please confirm that if the grub is not controlled by the 9.10 deleting that partition from Vista will make the machine still boot in grub and only show two OSs? Tnx.
[14:29] <SPhcT> soureau i want because i dont have any other drivers...
[14:29] <Mateo_> erUSUL: or maybe you know what happened there, i have an error like GRUB4DOS 4.4.0 .. Memory: ... MenuEnd:: 0x ...  and a prompt line
[14:29] <hoonteke> rcombo: why are you using a drive emulator to begin with?  If you're trying to do a virtual install or test, just use virtual box.
[14:29] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, it says ' ~#Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8) #DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND - - YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[14:29] <hoonteke> http://www.virtualbox.org/
[14:29] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: if you delete  the partition that has the /boot with Grub in it, that is controlling it all
[14:29] <soreau> SPhcT: Is your webcam among the supported cards in that link?
[14:29] <SPhcT> soreau: i have heard that it can be done but i dont now how..
[14:29] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: you won't be able to boot up any OS
[14:29] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: if i could do it right now and get at least my data back i would !! :)
[14:29] <erUSUL> Mateo_: no; sorry. but in that wiki page there are troubleshotting guides hope it helps
[14:29] <Vkr324> no if i delete the other partition, the one that's not controlling the grub
[14:30] <Mateo_> erUSUL: i will take a look thanks
[14:30] <erUSUL> Mateo_: get to the data should be easy enough. you can do that first
[14:30] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: There needs to be a line in there like this for example, to use googles public name server:  nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:30] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, there is nothing but what i gave you
[14:30] <Mateo_> erUSUL: yep, i'm looking for it in the guide
[14:31] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, i know the DNS server address we use, i can look it up on cmd on my windows laptop, that will work wont it?
[14:31] <rcombo> hoonteke: no I am using both ways, with a drive emulator sometimes and always with self - testing prgm from the cd and both come up with errors
[14:31] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: that's what happens when people remove Ubuntu,  and keep WIndows,  the /boot goes, but a tiny bit of Grub is still left on the MBR (Master  Boot Record) with the enteries,  but  then it can't boot stuff up because the actsaul Grub has been deleted.   Then  to boot Windows two options,  to  boot Ubuntu well Grub can be re installed.  However it's easier to not delete Grub in the first place in your case.
[14:31] <SPhcT> soreau Genesys Logic Inc. no there are not..
[14:31] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: I would suggest commenting all those lines (by adding a # at the beginning of each) then add a line: nameserver IP
[14:31] <SPhcT> soreau but it seems like company name for camera
[14:32] <hoonteke> rcombo: alright, so you've burn errors.  well, make sure you have a good ISO: boot with it inside of VirtualBox.
[14:32] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, they are commented
[14:32] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: Where IP is the ip address of your name server
[14:32] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, ok i will giev that a try
[14:32] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: it's easy enough to find out which one you have,  for example go into the /boot in your 8.04 partition
[14:32] <hoonteke> rcombo: you also might try a different burning program: http://infrarecorder.org/
[14:32] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: Just try adding a line like: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> then try to ping google.com
[14:32] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, do i end it with a ';'
[14:32] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: no
[14:33] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: uh I meant to put it's easy enough to find out which one is controlling stuff,  for example go into the /boot in your 8.04 partition.   actsaully do this gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst  then for example re name your Windows entry or one of the Ubuntu enteries, and save the file, re boot the computer and see if the changes are there.   If so good that's the Grub that is being used,  and then it's fine to just delete the 9.10 partition.
[14:33] <NET||abuse> hey folks,, have a very annoying little bug, my headphones are usb headphones, absolutely iritating thing is as i reduce volume, once it hits about 30% or 25% volume, the usb headphones cut out, no volume unless it's up at about 30% again,,
[14:33] <rcombo> hoonteke: alright, gonna try that, tx for your help
[14:33] <NET||abuse> anyone heard of anything like this? #
[14:34] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, so put in that and restart the interface?
[14:34] <Vkr324> @sebsebseb thanks a bunch man, that answers my question
[14:34] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: No
[14:34] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: if on the other hand it's 9.10 that is controlling things well
[14:34] <kunji> I'm running Mint 8 on my laptop (almost identical to Ubuntu 9.10) for some reason I'm not able to switch the Mint usplash with a different usplash theme, even though in startupmanager it appears to be selected, and also appears to be selected using the terminal.
[14:34] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: You said you can already ping other boxes that are connected and the router, right?
[14:34] <Vkr324> @sebsebseb yeah then I have a problem
[14:35] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, yup, looks like it is pining google too
[14:35] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: it is possible to actsaully delete everything else on the partition and just keep /boot  and then you can re size if you want, and make into a seperate /boot partition
[14:35] <SPhcT> need help with webcam drivers
[14:35] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: Then it should be working now
[14:35] <Kamokow> I setup my gmail account with Evolution, and it deleted ALL my email, including my archives, off my gmail account. Is there anyway I can restore them (some arent even showing up in evolution??)?
[14:35] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, yes it is, but very slow
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> kunji:  theres a tool called 'epidermis' that is supposed to be able to cahnge splash and other gfx like that..   personally i disabel the uselss thing
[14:36] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: What ip did you use for the name server?
[14:36] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, im still on the <IP_ADDRESS> u suggested
[14:36] <Mateo_> erUSUL: sorry but maybe you can help me, in the guide to mount from a live CD, and in the "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /win" line, i have to replace the sda1 with the correct one, but how can i find it ?
[14:36] <kunji> I can try it, though I thought the command line method would have been most reliable.. I'll give it a shot, thanks.
[14:36] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: Try your routers internal ip (or whatever is providing that pc with the net)
[14:36] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: however I guess 8.04 woudn't upgrade  that partition if doing that
[14:37] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, the default gateway?
[14:37] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: Like if your routers ip is <IP_ADDRESS>, use that
[14:37] <Vkr324> so where does GRUB find the list of OSses to choose from?
[14:37] <csirifiszkio> hello everybody
[14:38] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, im not actually sure of it, im at work
[14:38] <csirifiszkio> i need some help
[14:38] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: in /boot of the version that is controlling Grub
[14:38] <csirifiszkio> im using Karmic
[14:38] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: Well you should know it
[14:38] <Vkr324> k, that should be all I need. cheers man
[14:38] <Gateway> guys do you know an equivalent of hyperterminal ?
[14:38] <hoonteke> Vkr324: because grub has the ability to read certain filesystems, it can just read it from a file.  Historically, /boot/grub/grub.cfg or /boot/grub/menu.lst.
[14:38] <SPhcT> maybe i find driver files what i have to do with all files
[14:38] <llutz> Gateway: minicom
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> Gateway:  you mean a serial terminal program? theres a few in the repos i imagine. Not used any in ages
[14:39] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: you can re install Grub as well into 8.04 or well  10.04 even, assuming you upgrade that install  to  the next LTS, that's released at end of April
[14:39] <soreau> ! ask | csirifiszkio
[14:39] <sebsebseb> !grub
[14:39] <sebsebseb> !grub2
[14:39] <Gateway> llutz, I've already tried but I didn't understand how to make it work
[14:39] <soreau> SPhcT: If you find the driver source code, you would have to compile and install it
[14:39] <hoonteke> Vkr324: but you have to tell it /which/ harddrive and partition from which to read that file, which is what get's installed in the 1st and 1.5 boot-stage loaders.
[14:39] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: now you got the links above as well, now I think you got all you need
[14:40] <Vkr324> @hoonteke so deleting a partition in vista will not update this list and grub will still show this partition, right?
[14:40] <SPhcT> soureau how i can complete it? and install?
[14:40] <hoonteke> Vkr324: correct.
[14:40] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, will not using the ip addresses of the DNS server looked up using cmd on my windows machine work?
[14:40] <Vkr324> k, tnx guys
[14:40] <soreau> SPhcT: It depends on what the files are
[14:40] <hoonteke> sebsebseb: heh, hardly.  I've just finished doing some grub work, and the documentation leaves lots to be desired for folks who aren't gurus.
[14:40] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: if you delete /boot the one that is being used
[14:40] <hoonteke> but, that is a start.
[14:40] <csirifiszkio> ok, sorry. where can i change video driver in Karmic, because i used to do it in xorg.conf
[14:40] <sebsebseb> Vkr324: it will be like,  what happens when people remove Ubuntu, but still have Windows on there, then  Grub can be re installed, but it's not that easy
[14:41] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: I dont understand that question
[14:41] <SPhcT> soreau: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gl860
[14:41] <sebsebseb> hoonteke: indeed those help pages, aren't that easy to follow really for newbies
[14:41] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, ok i used command line in windows to type ipconfig /all and that gives me the DNS servers....can i not use them
[14:41] <hoonteke> sebsebseb: more than not easy for noobs.  I'm hardly a noob, and I've had a hard time following that documentation.
[14:42] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: I dont know what you are asking.
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> Grub2 is pratically its own OS. :)
[14:42] <soreau> SPhcT: Hang on, I will look
[14:43] <sebsebseb> Grub Legacy is fine really, but develoeprs wanted to do a re write and so Grub 2
[14:43] <sile> hi!
[14:43] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, i need to set an ip for DNS right? So you know when you type in ipconfig /all into a command window on windows it comes up with a list of ip addy, subnet mask, default gateway, DNS serves and so on....can i not use the ip addys where it says DNS servers and use them to put in the config file on this ubuntu box
[14:43] <SPhcT> SPhcT
[14:43] <Dr_Willis> I think theres more to it then  they wanted to.. :) they had a lot of things they wanted to fix in a way that it will work for the next few generations of pcs :)
[14:44] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: such as?
[14:44] <JonathanEllis> How can I view a video that is in MTS format?
[14:44] <hipitihop> I'm using a MS wireless keyboard and mouse using my built in laptop BT adaptor .. however the pairing is lost after a eriod of inactivity on the keyboard or the mouse. I have to run 'sudo hidd --search' to reconnect to either device. how do I stop this from happening
[14:44] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, cause im guesing thats the DNS servers that this network is using
[14:44] <kunji> Jimi_Neutral: windows commands are different from the commands for linux quite often, I think the command you want is ifconfig
[14:44] <soreau> Jimi_Neutral: I dont know, I dont use windows. Maybe you can try iptables or ask in #networking
[14:44] <Jimi_Neutral> kunji, thats not what i am asking but ty anyways :)
[14:44] <Jimi_Neutral> ok well that does happen
[14:45] <Jimi_Neutral> soreau, it gives you a list of ip's next to the word DNS servers, so will it wok if i use them
[14:45] <Mateo_> i have to try some things... brb !
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> sebsebseb:  check the grub2 homepage/docs it can do things (and will have more features soon) that could never happen in grub1..  decent scripting suport for one thing. able to boot ISo files for another..  Plus other  enhancements. It will be more themeable then grub1.. eventually
[14:45] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: you can use them
[14:45] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, ok, do they have to be seperated by a comma
[14:46] <Dr_Willis> night all.
[14:46] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: where do you add them?
[14:46] <soreau> SPhcT: Yes, I downloaded one of the tarballs and it is source code for a linux kernel module (driver). To compile it, install build-essential then extract the folder and from that folder run the folling command to compile it: make
[14:46] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, i have been told to add them to the resolv.conf file
[14:47] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: nameserver i.p.a.dress              single line per ip
[14:47] <soreau> SPhcT: If it builds successfully without errors, it will produce a .ko file, then you will use this command to load this driver: sudo insmod file.ko
[14:47] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: they will be overwritten at reboot
[14:47] <csirifiszkio> i had installed the Binary ATI driver in Karmic, now i can suspend my notebook, but since that time i cant turn on the desktop effects
[14:47] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, so how do i make it permanant
[14:47] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: if using dhcp, edit dhclient.conf. if using static-ip, add them to /etc/network/interfaces
[14:47] <csirifiszkio> how can i change between the available videodrivers in Karmic?
[14:48] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, ah ha! just what i asked about 3 hours ago lol....what would be the syntax to add them to the interfaces file
[14:49] <myth> hi there, i have a sound problem with my fresh 9.10 x86_64 installation! i don't get optical ouput! i can see my soundcard (00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)) with lspci, but i don't even get light from the SPDIF output!
[14:49] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS>   <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:49] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, ty bud you aer a star
[14:49] <SPhcT> soreau it made lot of files *.o
[14:49] <myth> hi there, i have a sound problem with my fresh 9.10 x86_64 installation! i don't get optical ouput! i can see my soundcard (00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)) with lspci, but i don't even get light from the SPDIF output!
[14:50] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: make sure package "resolvconf" is installed for that
[14:50] <mark_> STATUS DEduc3d
[14:50] <soreau> SPhcT: Do you see a .ko file?
[14:50] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, i have no idea what u mean, still new to linux
[14:50] <macman_> just got my new studio 17 inch
[14:50] <macman_> :P
[14:50] <macman_> of course im wiping windows
[14:50] <bcurtiswx_> hey, what channel should I go to for wiki problems?
[14:50] <myth> no one can help me?
[14:50] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: apt-cache policy resolvconf|greo -i insta
[14:50] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: apt-cache policy resolvconf|grep -i insta
[14:50] <llutz> srooy
[14:51] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, second one ;)
[14:51] <VirusTB> so uhm.. is it a good idea to wire your nework like this >>  ISP > Wired-Router > Switch >Wifi-Router
[14:51] <SPhcT> soreau i extracted all folder than i launch install in terminal...
[14:51] <Smith> if i have to check ctrl+d key combination in programming, with what can i compare?
[14:51] <myth> hi there, i have a sound problem with my fresh 9.10 x86_64 installation! i don't get optical ouput! i can see my soundcard (00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)) with lspci, but i don't even get light from the SPDIF output!
[14:51] <SPhcT> soreau now i have more files like filename.o
[14:52] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: sorry for my typos, is it installed?
[14:52] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, it come back with installed: 1.44ubuntu1
[14:52] <SPhcT> soreau dont have .ko
[14:52] <soreau> SPhcT: Did you run make from the directory in the terminal?
[14:52] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: fine, so all _should_ work
[14:52] <cm_> VirusTB: yes if the wifi-router is in bridged mode and you want it to be able to access your lan
[14:52] <cm_> -it+wifiusers
[14:52] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, bbc.co.uk came back unkown host when i tired ot ping :(
[14:52] <SPhcT> soreau i launch only install
[14:52] <annas> hai all
[14:53] <JonathanEllis> !video
[14:53] <soreau> SPhcT: That wont help.. you need to cd into/the/directory, then run make to compile it
[14:53] <myth> JonathanEllis: was this for me
[14:53] <myth> ?
[14:53] <SPhcT> soreau sory i dont understand
[14:53] <VirusTB> cm_ how do I tell if its in Bridghed mode?
[14:53] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: you have to restart networking to take that change in interfaces effect. temporary change /etc/resolv.conf too
[14:53] <bcurtiswx_> What channel should I go to for wiki.ubuntu.com problems
[14:53] <woo> hello all!
[14:54] <myth> woo: hi :)
[14:54] <soreau> SPhcT: Do you know how to change directories in the terminal?
[14:54] <JonathanEllis> myth: No for me. I am looking for something to play an mts video file
[14:54] <VirusTB> cm_,  i got a Apple Airport,  going to use the Wifi on 3 laptops mainly
[14:54] <myth> cd ?!
[14:54] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, already did the network restart.....whats the temp change you said about?
[14:54] <myth> JonathanEllis: kk
[14:54] <myth> SPhcT: cd ?!
[14:54] <woo> Could anyone help with confirguring a serial wacom tablet?  If not, what channel would be best?
[14:54] <jpcristian> Hola
[14:54] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: if you restarted, check /etc/resolv.conf. it should contain your nameservers from /e/n/interfaces
[14:54] <SPhcT> soreau i now how to find them... but not how to change
[14:55] <wondering304> hi guys, I was wondering if I should wait to install ubuntu 10.4 or can I simplay install ubuntu 9.1 now and update when the time comes? cause the last update was not so good [ext3>ext4 is a bit hard to do without a fresh install]
[14:55] <myth> SPhcT: cd /home/myuser/newfolder
[14:55] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, no it doesnt
[14:55] <avb> guys, does lucid freeze on startup is a known bug?
[14:55] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, so i put them in there as well
[14:55] <avb> i just upgraded from karmic
[14:56] <avb> no console
[14:56] <avb> no gdm
[14:56] <avb> nothing
[14:56] <cm_> VirusTB: hm i dont known airports ap at all sorry
[14:56] <myth> hi there, i have a sound problem with my fresh 9.10 x86_64 installation! i don't get optical ouput! i can see my soundcard (00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)) with lspci, but i don't even get light from the SPDIF output!
[14:56] <faiq> hai
[14:56] <myth> no one with an idea?
[14:56] <soreau> SPhcT: Ok.. in your terminal (applications>accessories>terminal) you need to use the cd command (which means change directory) to get to the folder (directory) where you downloaded the source code. For example if it was in your Desktop folder you would do: cd $HOME/Desktop/folder
[14:56] <annas> hay faiq
[14:57] <petsounds> avb, #ubuntu+1
[14:57] <avb> tx
[14:57] <soreau> ! intelhda | myth
[14:57] <myth> i know it...
[14:58] <VirusTB> cm_,  thanks :D i wil just give it a try and learn from experiance
[14:58] <SPhcT> soreau: im there now.
[14:58] <cognitiaclaeves> I'd like to add different version of the same file to a zip archive... is there an 'add' option?
[14:58] <faiq> woi...gampang..
[14:58] <cognitiaclaeves> ( for zip )
[14:58] <pachu> hola
[14:59] <pachu> hola
[14:59] <SikEnCide> ew singh
[14:59] <pachu> spanish
[14:59] <pachu> hola
[14:59] <soreau> SPhcT: The thing is, the linux kernel provides drivers for a lot of devices and ubuntu is usually smart enough to detect a device and load the driver. Did you even check the output of lsmod to see if it loaded a driver for your webcam device?
[14:59] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, nothing
[14:59] <pachu> hola
[14:59] <pachu> hi
[15:00] <SPhcT> soreau no
[15:00] <FiremanEd> !es | pachu
[15:00] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: can you ping IP-adresses?
[15:00] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, i know them DNS servers are working cause they are being used by the rest of the building lol
[15:00] <woo> anyone with help for Wacom serial devices in Ubuntu 9.10?
[15:00] <soreau> SPhcT: Ok, well did you check an application like cheese to see if it detects your cam?
[15:00] <myth> ubottu: i have alc 882 and in    /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/HD-Audio-Models.txt.gz i see     3stack-dig	3-jack with SPDIF I/O
[15:00] <myth> lol...a bot :D
[15:00] <Jimi_Neutral> lluta
[15:00] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, yeah i can
[15:01] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, i am pining my other laptop which is on the network on windiws
[15:01] <SPhcT> soreau cheese and skype cant detect
[15:01] <soreau> SPhcT: Then I will assume the driver is not available. Did you try running make from the source directory in the terminal to build this module?
[15:01] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: ping -c 2 <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:02] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, thats fine
[15:03] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: dig @<IP_ADDRESS>.8 www.google.com
[15:03] <SPhcT> soreau im in dirctory /home/downloads/gspcav2$ and than i run make it says no targets..
[15:03] <soreau> SPhcT: If you do ls, does it show a Makefile?
[15:03] <pachu> hi
[15:03] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, server found
[15:04] <SPhcT> soreau yes
[15:04] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: "answer section" any ips?
[15:04] <soreau> SPhcT: Ok, can you cd into the next directory and try make again?
[15:04] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, yeah 4
[15:04] <a-linux-geek> sup y'al
[15:04] <soreau> hm
[15:05] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: add "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" as first line to /etc/resolv.conf
[15:05] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: then ping -c2 www.google.com
[15:05] <SPhcT> soreau i have 2 green names install and cmd-gl860
[15:05] <woo> anyone, wacom? 9.10?
[15:05] <soreau> llutz: I had him do that and he said it worked but it was slow
[15:06] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, sorry, i just noticed whee i had gone wrong
[15:06] <soreau> SPhcT: Hang on, let me see if there are some build instructions on this
[15:06] <llutz> i wouldn't seriously recommend using google-dns for regular operation
[15:06] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, i put nameservers instead of nameserver in the resolv.conf
[15:06] <mengu> hi. i removed the panel at the bottom and i have added it back. now how do i make it so the running applications are shown in that panel?
[15:07] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, but it is nameserverS in the interfaces file though right
[15:07] <soreau> SPhcT: Try ./install
[15:07] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: dns-nameservers, yes
[15:07] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, then i think thats it....just gonna do a reboot to check
[15:07] <michaeldobrovits> mengu, right click on panel add windows list
[15:08] <michaeldobrovits> mengu,sry right click on panel add to panel > windows list
[15:08] <SPhcT> soreau working..
[15:09] <michaeldobrovits> can someone help to understand why gdm doesn't recalls last window location
[15:09] <soreau> SPhcT: Yea, it looks like it includes an install script that downloads and installs the driver then loads the module
[15:09] <mengu> thanks you michaeldobrovits.
[15:09] <wrapster> what is the use of the /etc/sudoers?
[15:09] <SuperDefenderX> !backup
[15:09] <SPhcT> soreau but get eror inserting .ko
[15:09] <wrapster> what is that file basically ?
[15:09] <michaeldobrovits> mengu, anytime :)
[15:09] <michaeldobrovits> can someone help to understand why gdm doesn't recalls last window location
[15:10] <soreau> SPhcT: Did the build actually succeed? Does the .ko exist?
[15:10] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, worked, but now i have rebooted, it doesnt naymore
[15:10] <crash82> Hello , is there anyway to know if the attached disk of the computer is of phisical size of 2.5 or 3.5 ? By model or something like that what tool can I use ?
[15:10] <rus21sasha> на русском кто рубит?
[15:11] <SPhcT> soreau error inserting .../../.../.ko -1 Unknown symbol in module
[15:12] <soreau> SPhcT: What about if you try sudo modprobe gl860
[15:12] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, trying what you last said
[15:12] <michaeldobrovits> crash82, hdparm -i /dev
[15:13] <SPhcT> soreau: module gl860 not found
[15:13] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: you have configured your device completly in /e/n/interfaces?
[15:13] <michaeldobrovits> crash82, hdparm -i /dev/sdf or sda or what ever (use it in terminal with sudo)
[15:13] <soreau> SPhcT: Well, best I can tell either this source is not compatible with the kernel version you are running or it is not compatible with the webcam you have
[15:14] <a-linux-geek> any no if fme can run on ubuntu
[15:14] <michaeldobrovits> crash82, you can see your diskd in terminal using sudo fdisk -l
[15:15] <SPhcT> soreau so i need find another driver..
[15:15] <SPhcT> soreau?
[15:15] <soreau> SPhcT: How does the cam connect, usb?
[15:16] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune?
[15:16] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, 2 tx 2 rx from that last command
[15:16] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, yeah as far as i know
[15:16] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, i will send it to you in ap rivate what i have
[15:16] <a-linux-geek> may need loopback for the webcam
[15:16] <MyMorningCoffee> Is there a module that can export Drupal comments into a MovableType format?
[15:16] <SPhcT> soreau no it is notebook camera up in screen
[15:17] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune ?
[15:17] <soreau> SPhcT: Does lspci show it then?
[15:17] <michaeldobrovits> SPhcT, check that the camera is turned on :)
[15:18] <SPhcT> soreau no i find it in lsusb
[15:18] <soreau> SPhcT: What does it report exactly?
[15:18] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune ?
[15:18] <SPhcT> michaeldobrovits how?
[15:18] <michaeldobrovits> SPhcT, which computer?
[15:19] <SPhcT> michaeldobrovits notebook asus z37s
[15:19] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: worse and worse ... i can't find my ubuntu/disks/ now ...
[15:19] <SPhcT> michaeldobrovits asmobile z37s
[15:19] <H34D5H0073R> -.-
[15:19] <JuanMarquez>  boot into Ubuntu it stops at a prompt that says initramfs
[15:20] <JuanMarquez> help me  boot into Ubuntu it stops at a prompt that says initramfs
[15:20] <SPhcT> soreau Bus 002 Device 003: ID 05e3:0503 genesys logic, inc
[15:20] <Smith> how can i check the key combination of ctrl+c or something like that pressed by user?
[15:20] <Pitel> how to get ubuntu version over ssh shell?
[15:20] <onsecurity> dionisos.irc.gr
[15:20] <miranda_82> Pitel, lsb_release -a
[15:20] <michaeldobrovits> SPhcT, fn something
[15:20] <onsecurity> how change the server on irc?
[15:21] <SPhcT> michaeldobrovits ?
[15:21] <miranda_82> hello, anyone has any recommendations on how to download rss torrents automatically on a headless server?
[15:21] <luist> hey.. can anyone help me to use diff in a way that i can compare all the files in 2 folders (files with the same name) and create 1 output for each pair compared in a third folder?
[15:21] <trollboy> onsecurity, type "/server irc.server.address"
[15:21] <tony32> why does it take so long to copy within the same partition? why doesn't it do it the way windows does?
[15:21] <michaeldobrovits> SPhcT, try looking at the symbols on the keyborad most of the time same color as the fn key (something lik fn f(something)
[15:21] <Pitel> miranda_82: thx
[15:22] <michaeldobrovits> SPhcT, i had also this issue until i saw that the camera was turned off
[15:22] <JuanMarquez> help me  boot into Ubuntu it stops at a prompt that says initramfs
[15:22] <michaeldobrovits> SPhcT, it was on msi wind fn f6
[15:23] <michaeldobrovits> SPhcT, it all worked fine ubuntu 8.04.2
[15:23] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune ?
[15:23] <SPhcT> michaeldobrovits no i dont have camera with Fn
[15:23] <hajmola> is there anyway to get OO to ignore my dark theme? The text colors don't work right...
[15:23] <wrapster> looked at my /etc/sudoers file and see 2 entries for ROOT... like so http://pastie.org/809427
[15:23] <wrapster> anyone can help me
[15:23] <wrapster> and also what does so many ALL=(ALL) ALL mean
[15:23] <SPhcT> michaeldobrovits or maybi it isnt on keybord..
[15:24] <Belgarath_> How do I decide where my desktop mount icons should appear (the default seems to be in up left corner, I want to change it to right up corner)
[15:24] <usuario_> eyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[15:24] <Pici> wrapster: Is that from an Ubuntu system?
[15:24] <michaeldobrovits> SPhcT, probably. i think that if lsusb displays it than it is recognized somehow but dont rely on this
[15:24] <panfist_> i'm trying to install ubuntu on a file server. it has 6 sata drives for storage and one ide drive for the root file system. i have installed ubuntu onto the ide drive, but it doesn't boot
[15:24] <freakynl> hi, i'm trying to export some devices (md0) through ietd, but i keep getting weird errors that it can't attach lun 0 to target, this also happens if i make a file and try to export that, any ideas?
[15:24] <JonathanEllis> Where is the correct place to put user generated scripts?
[15:24] <wrapster> Pici: why you asking that.. of course!
[15:24] <miranda_82> hello, anyone has any recommendations on how to download rss torrents automatically on a headless server?
[15:24] <panfist_> when i boot from that drive i just see a cursor; im wondering is grub messed up? how can i fix it?
[15:25] <usuario_> lgjleglghrlgkjgl
[15:25] <usuario_> hniweghgo
[15:25] <usuario_> hjhjhjhjh
[15:25] <Pici> usuario_: stop
[15:25] <usuario_> hhhhbhbrhfbnjfbdgkeqggnnnnnnnnnnnnnr
[15:25] <soreau> SPhcT: Which version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:25] <Pici> wrapster: I ask because it looks like its been modified.
[15:25] <panfist_> the ide drive is detected as sdg instead of hda or something, even though it's ide
[15:25] <SPhcT> soreau 9.10
[15:25] <wrapster> ah... where do i look at it to find the mods?
[15:25] <wrapster> if any.?
[15:25] <Pici> wrapster: /etc/sudoers controls who can use sudo.
[15:26] <michaeldobrovits> panfist, did it worked before?
[15:26] <wrapster> coz i dont understand this. but something tells me if we have 2 of the same kind then its definitely wrong.
[15:26] <Pici> wrapster: See man sudoers.  This is what the default /etc/sudoers looks like: http://pastebin.com/f324896d7
[15:26] <m_fulder> hello, is it easy to set up a server on ubuntu?
[15:26] <iceroot> m_fulder: sure
[15:26] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune ?
[15:27] <m_fulder> easier then windows iceroot ?
[15:27] <NET||abuse> hmm, apt.wakoppa.com   the gpg key is broken for me, anyone else?
[15:27] <iceroot> m_fulder: just try it
[15:27] <iceroot> m_fulder: and see yourself
[15:27] <m_fulder> ok will do :P ... got a good tutorial? :)
[15:27] <k0d3g3ar> does anyone have a suggestion for a good SMB GUI browsing program?  I've been using smb4K but its a bit flaky
[15:27] <IdleOne> !lamp | m_fulder
[15:27] <iceroot> m_fulder: burn the cd, insert it, press ~ 10 times enter. give it a username and finish
[15:28] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune ?
[15:28] <m_fulder> wow cool ok :D thanks iceroot
[15:28] <freakynl> anyone using ietd on 9.10?
[15:28] <SPhcT> soreau are you look for something?
[15:28] <hajmola> anyone know how to get OO to ignore my dark theme?
[15:28] <iceroot> !anyone | freakynl
[15:28] <tobi_> is there any possible way of removing video tearing in linux?
[15:28] <tobi_> !tearing
[15:28] <SPhcT> michaeldobrovits can i force it to turn on?
[15:29] <freakynl> iceroot: read up then
[15:29] <yesitisjustme> i have a sprint wireless card and baud rate is 9600 is this to low or is it correct?
[15:29] <iceroot> freakynl: and maybe you mean inetd?
[15:29] <michaeldobrovits> SPhcT, i don't know, never worked with that laptop, try checking bios maybe....
[15:29] <freakynl> iceroot: no i don't, ietd, iscsi enterprise (piece of crap) target daemon
[15:30] <ribot> i tried to configure my mobile broadband with wvconfig, but it couldnt find the device.i think ubuntu recognizes it as a usb storage device
[15:30] <soreau> SPhcT: Yes
[15:30] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, install compizconfig-setting-manager util through synaptics and tune sync to vblank
[15:30] <slartsa> HALP! I'm using usb-wlan (Telewell TW-WLAN with (apparently?) rt2870 chip. I had to blacklist "rt2800usb" in order to get it to do anything, but the connection lags every once in a while (at least once/min) for at least 30secs. I'm using Karmic
[15:31] <freakynl> it ran fine on 8.04 ... on 9.10 it doesn't seem to want to do anything. either it claims it can't attach device to lun, or it doesn't give any errors, they appear in /proc/net/iet/volumes but initiators don't see them
[15:31] <michele> italiano
[15:31] <Pici> !it | michele
[15:32] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, after you install > go to general> general options > select display settings tab > and down the tab you have sync to vblank
[15:32] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits I don't think it will work for movie playback :P
[15:32] <freakynl> the initiators do show up in /proc/net/iet/sessions btw
[15:32] <chris89> hello
[15:32] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, it works trust me
[15:32] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits I've already tested that
[15:32] <SPhcT> ok i changed laptops so i can write from xchat
[15:33] <basty> Hi
[15:33] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, did you selected desired refresh rate?
[15:33] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits so I need to use compiz and have that enabled
[15:33] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits 60
[15:33] <k0d3g3ar> if I install a Windows program in WINE on Ubuntu that requires a DLL, do I have to do anything other than just have it available next to the EXE file (ie. in the same folder)?
[15:33] <basty> I am trying to install "iaxmodem" for asterisk and I need to set something into the not available "inittab". Where is the "inittab" on an ubuntu 9.10 ?
[15:34] <Proton23> Hi! my laptop was powered off by not plugin in current. No I can't access my crypted partition :(
[15:34] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, than leave detect fresh rate and see that it stands on 60 and mark the check box to sync to vblank
[15:34] <Kamokow> k0d3g3ar: If its a system dll, then that probably wont work, but any normal dlls (like SDL) should, provided the program itself will run.
[15:34] <Proton23> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[15:34] <Proton23> mount: only root can mount /dev/mapper/sda7_crypt on /media/stuff
[15:34] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, u need also to enable effects in apearance
[15:34] <k0d3g3ar> Kamokow:  I think it is a system DLL (MIDAS.DLL).  I believe its used for ODBC
[15:35] <b__> Look for help connecting to a certain server
[15:35] <JonathanEllis> Where should I put a script? In /bin? /usr/bin? /usr/local/bin?
[15:35] <slartsa> I was told that my TW-WLAN has RT2870 chip but can I count on that? because my "lsusb" tells me it's "148f:3070" and I got 3070 drivers with the package?
[15:35] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, you can choose the normal visual effects
[15:35] <bax> ?
[15:35] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits: ok doing as you say
[15:35] <soreau> SPhcT: According to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/215604 AFAICT, the driver was being developed but went awol or something..
[15:35] <freakynl> Proton23: try running: sudo mkdir /media/stuff; sudo mount /dev/mapper/sda7_crypt /media/stuff
[15:36] <Kamokow> k0d3g3ar: Well, if the dll is usually in the same folder, it will probably work in the same folder, otherwise, it probably wont, just like it works in windows... (unless im wrong, I dont really use wine much anymore)
[15:36] <basty> so - is there any "inittab" on ubuntu 9.10 ? ;-)
[15:36] <k0d3g3ar> anyone got any recommendations for calm system sounds for mail alerts in Ubuntu?  I'm using Thunderbird, but the default sound is reminiscent of Windows 95.  And I don't want some vocal for each email that comes in.  It gets old real quick.
[15:36] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, tell me if it works
[15:36] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune ?
[15:37] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits it doesn't
[15:37] <SPhcT> soreau, so can i do something to fore it work?
[15:37] <Pelo> k0d3g3ar, there are some sound themes on gnome-looks.org
[15:37] <k0d3g3ar> Pelo:  Thanks so much
[15:37] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, what gpu you are running?
[15:37] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits I've set mplayer to use xv
[15:38] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits: 4000+ 64 x2 AMD
[15:38] <bobbob1016> How can I get a program I started via ssh to continue running after I close ssh?
[15:38] <Pelo> k0d3g3ar, you'll probably have to dl and listen to a bunch of files to find something you like but ...
[15:38] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits:  sry gpu 7800GT
[15:38] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, i mean what graphics card you r using?
[15:38] <SPhcT> soreau, http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=4320 maybe here is something i can use?
[15:38] <Fauntix> hello
[15:38] <soreau> SPhcT: I think you are barking up the right tree with finding the module source and building it. Unfortunately I cannot determine if there is updated sources compatible with the latest 9.10 kernel
[15:38] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, did you enabled restricted driver?
[15:38] <Pelo> bobbob1016, screen maybe ?
[15:39] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune ?
[15:39] <nevstah> hi guys, i've deleted a .conf file in error, and want to simply reinstall the program including all the associated conf files, how can i do this? every time i try, it skips the deleted file :(
[15:39] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits: I've installed 190.53 cuz 185 is worthless
[15:39] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, why ?
[15:39] <Fauntix> i cant get wine installed on 9.10
[15:39] <bobbob1016> Pelo, I tried, but I can't seem to get the right syntax
[15:39] <Pelo> nevstah, try making a blank, .conf file , maybe it will get edited
[15:40] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits: it behaved wrong with resolution - refresh
[15:40] <nevstah> Pelo: thanks, will do!
[15:40] <kubanc> can gimp 2.7 run on ubuntu 8.04
[15:40] <SPhcT> soreau, if there is driver for ubuntu 8.10 shold it work for 9.10? and is it hard to make drivers?
[15:40] <benc1> how can I set a static IP when using ubuntu behind a router?
[15:41] <Pelo> bobbob1016, I managed to get irssi started with $screen irssi , that started irssi in a screen session ,  then crtl+a+d that got me out of the screen session back to the prompt ,  screen -r to get back to the screen session
[15:41] <llutz> bobbob1016: ssh into remote, start "screen yourcommand", use ctrl-a+d to detach before logging out. when relogin, use screen -r to reattach
[15:41] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, try 190.42 i had issues of stuttering with that driver on my gtx 285 on high resolutions
[15:41] <Pelo> nevstah, no promises,  but it's the only thing I can think of off hand
[15:41] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, now i'm using 185 and it works the best of all
[15:41] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits: strange
[15:42] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, probably there r reasons why ubuntu developer chose 185 over the other
[15:42] <nevstah> Pelo: i just ran apt-get purge <program> and that did the trick
[15:42] <soreau> SPhcT: It is relatively difficult to write drivers. If something changes in the kernel that the driver relies on, it wont work. I think if you find the right version of the code compatible with your kernel, it will work
[15:42] <Pelo> nevstah, congrats
[15:43] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, you tell me, i have triplehead2go 3monitors and resolution of 5040x1050 and it took me sometime to make it work properly
[15:43] <SPhcT> my kernel is 9.10?
[15:43] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits: gonna try 185, what is the version of 185 you use?
[15:44] <KaffeeJunky123> since I've done a bios update my alt key does not function after some time, restarting gdm will fix the problem, does anyone have an idea what could cause this? I've an ASUS M2N32SLI-Deluxe
[15:44] <KaffeeJunky123> And it's an usb keyboard
[15:44] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, try first 190.42 , if it doesn't work good just ./Nvidia-linux-driver --uninstall
[15:44] <chris89> bye
[15:45] <elnur> Hello. Does anybody know where shortcuts from panel are stored?
[15:45] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, than install from the suggested hardware drivers in > system > administration > hardware drivers
[15:45] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune ?
[15:45] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits: can I safely remove drivers from admin..>hardware drivers?
[15:46] <SPhcT> soreau, can i do it like on 7.10 it cold work or no? i find small tutorial here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581307&page=3
[15:46] <Fauntix> can someone help me ge wine to work on 9.10
[15:46] <deinspanjer> I managed to get myself into a rough circular dependency spot with apt-get.  I've got a package "openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us" that wants to be removed, but the remove relies on the script "update-openoffice-dicts" which was previously removed.
[15:46] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: sure what's your problem?
[15:46] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, if u first installed it through the hardware drivers util than yes, if u've installed from file than u'll need to uninstall it from file
[15:47] <arand> elnur: I think in gconf /apps/panel has at least some of the settings for them..
[15:47] <deinspanjer> The problem is I can't install anything to help fix the problem because it tries to remove that thing first.  I tried specifying —no-remove, but that just causes apt-get install to exit immediately saying that it must remove.
[15:47] <freakynl> deinspanjer: try reinstalling update-openoffice-dicts
[15:47] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune ?
[15:47] <deinspanjer> How can I get around this circular dependency?
[15:47] <k0d3g3ar> ne1 suggest a simple/small utility that will convert OGG audio to WAV for system sounds?  Not Audacity, which is bloated and way to big for this.
[15:47] <freakynl> deinspanjer: hmm
[15:47] <SPhcT> what chat programs you use?
[15:48] <Fauntix> @Kaffee: i try to download it from the software center and it gives me a "Package dependencies cannot be resolved" error
[15:49] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: Did you setup the wine repository as explained on winehq.org?
[15:49] <trism> k0d3g3ar: install vorbis-tools and try using oggdec
[15:49] <diablodf> installing Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 ubuntu 9.10?
[15:49] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: oh wait a second, use synaptics to install it then
[15:49] <Fauntix> i believe when i did it gave me a broken error
[15:49] <diablodf> installing Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 ubuntu 9.10 wireless???
[15:49] <m0ar> SPhcT: For irc?
[15:50] <SPhcT> m0ar, yes
[15:50] <m0ar> SPhcT: Irssi. Unbeatable.
[15:50] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: or try sudo apt-get install wine
[15:50]  * deinspanjer wishes he could grok irssi.  He suspects he just didn't try hard enough.
[15:50] <m0ar> diablodf: Grok?
[15:51] <SPhcT> m0ar, are u sure?
[15:51] <k0d3g3ar> trism:  that looks promising.  I installed it, and have the oggdec in terminal.  But no sign of the command line options to convert ogg to wav there though
[15:51] <m0ar> SPhcT: I am. Tried MANY clients, I can promise you that you won't be dissapointed
[15:51] <diablodf> how to install Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 ubuntu 9.10?
[15:51] <deinspanjer> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok — a greybeard term for truely understanding the nature of something
[15:51] <SPhcT> KaffeeJunky123, if i have installed wine throught Soft center it shold work..?
[15:51]  * deinspanjer feels uncomfortable calling himself a greybeard
[15:51] <k0d3g3ar> trism:  ignore that last message.  it does it by default.  Doh
[15:52] <trism> k0d3g3ar: man oggdec, it describes it in the examples (should just be oggdec filename.ogg; which will output filename.wav)
[15:52] <KaffeeJunky123> SPhcT: well if you didn't get an error message, yes it should work
[15:52] <k0d3g3ar> trism:  thanks.  Its working perfectly
[15:52] <SPhcT> KaffeeJunky123, ty
[15:52] <om26er> is there way that jockey should detect my hardware drivers without rebooting (if it was unable to detect at first boot) I am on a live cd and have install nvidia glx 185 and want jockey to detect it. then I will restart xorg my self
[15:52] <m0ar> SPhcT: Check private
[15:53] <michaeldobrovits> why doesn't gdm recalls last window position? maybe some compiz tune ?
[15:54] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: did you get wine to install now?
[15:54] <hyperstation> hey i want to ask a question....do u know why APTonCD on my ubuntu 9.10 can't backup all of the packages?? and do you have a solutin for it?
[15:54] <Pelo> michaeldobrovits, there is a plugin in compiz to do that but I don' tknwo how it works,  #compiz would be a good place to ask
[15:54] <Myrtti> michaeldobrovits: your question makes little sense. GDM manages the login screen, it has very little to do with the window positions
[15:55] <michaeldobrovits> Myrtti, so what controls windows position?
[15:55] <Fauntix> i used the term to sudo the wine and get gives me The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[15:55] <michaeldobrovits> Myrtti, thought gdm stans for snome desktop manager
[15:55] <Fauntix>   wine: Depends: wine1.2 but it is not going to be installed
[15:55] <Fauntix> E: Broken packages
[15:56] <Myrtti> michaeldobrovits: window manager, compiz might be yours
[15:56] <Pelo> michaeldobrovits, gdm doesn'T do that,  you can do it with devilspie but it doesn't work if you use compiz, you need to use the plugin in compiz
[15:56] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: is that the full error output of apt-get?
[15:56] <michaeldobrovits> Myrtti, thx for clarifing
[15:57] <deinspanjer> Well, I took the sledgehammer approach to fixing my problem.  I hacked the .postrm script for the dictionary package to stub out the call to the missing program. That let it "remove" the dictionary.  I then installed apt-file, found the package that contains that script, installed that package, reinstalled the dictionary, then removed the dictionary and the supporting package.  Bleh!
[15:57] <Fauntix> Reading package lists... Done
[15:57] <Fauntix> Building dependency tree
[15:57] <Fauntix> Reading state information... Done
[15:57] <Fauntix> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[15:57] <Fauntix> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[15:57] <FloodBot2> Fauntix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:57] <Fauntix> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[15:57] <asarch> Any Emacs user around here?
[15:57] <michaeldobrovits> Pelo, do you remember which plug controls it?
[15:57] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: Do you have some wine pakages already installed?
[15:57] <Pelo> michaeldobrovits, let me have a look , but you'll have better luck asking in #compiz
[15:57] <Fauntix> i dont believe so
[15:58] <michaeldobrovits> Pelo, than thx i'll ask there
[15:58] <Pici> asarch: If you need help using emacs, #emacs would be the best place to ask
[15:58] <rdunnion> Hi all. I'm having trouble printing under 9.10. The error log complains /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstocanonij failed. I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this does anyone have an idea?
[15:58] <curious_george> Hey guys - what is a good download manager that SUPPORTS logging in to remote servers? Tried a million and they all consistently can't :(
[15:58] <asarch> They don't know my question Pici
[15:58] <Fauntix> how do i check if i do your not
[15:58] <Fauntix> or*
[15:58] <cryptk> so... I have USB devices randomly "breaking"
[15:58] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: use synaptic and search for wine
[15:59] <cryptk> either the keyboard or the mouse, random time, random device
[15:59] <cryptk> just stops responding...
[15:59] <hyperstation> hey i want to ask a question....do u know why APTonCD on my ubuntu 9.10 can't backup all of the packages?? and do you have a solutin for it?
[15:59] <dralcohen> I'm looking into getting a netbook (probably an Asus) for making presentations (open office, pdf, etc).  Most of the netbooks are limited to 1024x600 screen resolution.  I want to double check that a netbook with Ubuntu running on it would be able to send 1024x768 images to the projector.  Has anyone confirmed that this can be done?
[15:59] <cryptk> and unplugging it and replugging it doesn't fix it...
[15:59] <cryptk> any ideas?
[15:59] <Pelo> michaeldobrovits, can'T figure it out , somethig about geometry
[16:00] <SPhcT> soreau, can i do it like on 7.10 it cold work or no? i find small tutorial here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581307&page=3
[16:00] <Fauntix> it shows no installed version
[16:02] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: do you have the wine repo in the application- source list?
[16:02] <amoody> Hi, am trying to install skype on ubuntu karmic. I have added the medibuntu karmic free nonfree repository to my sources.list. However, i can't find skype in synaptic. Any Ideas on how to overcome this?
[16:03] <Liquid-Silence> anyone here know of decent free invoicing software for freelancers?
[16:03] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits 185 driver fixed the tearing absolutely
[16:04] <erUSUL> !info gnucash
[16:04] <Pelo> liquid, there are  modules on the openoffice.org website that let you make invoices in the spreadsheet
[16:04] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits I've always test it with some specific scenes in movie and no tearing at all occured after I've installed 185
[16:04] <Soyo> I am a member of the group with read and write permissions to a directory but I cannot access it with pulling a sudo command. What am I doing wrong?
[16:05] <sipior> Soyo: make sure you have execute permission on the directory as well.
[16:05] <Pelo> Soyo, make sure your nick has admin privildges
[16:05] <Pelo> Liquid-Silence, there are  modules on the openoffice.org website that let you make invoices in the spreadsheet
[16:05] <wrapster> Pici: but how do i figure out where the issue is being caused?
[16:05] <Soyo> Oh you need execute as well. I did not know that.
[16:05] <Fauntix> i dont know kaffee
[16:06] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: in synaptic click on settings->paket sources
[16:07] <Soyo> Thanks sipior! that worked
[16:07] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: and then klick on the software from third party tab
[16:07] <sipior> Soyo: welcome
[16:08] <cryptk> anyone want to help me debug a USB problem?3
[16:08] <basrah> hello
[16:08] <Fauntix> in my synaptic i dont have the packet sources in my setting tab
[16:08] <basrah> who do i ask for information about USB soundcards under ubuntu?
[16:08] <dbear> hello all.. I am hoping I can get suggestions on getting my dual display with nvidia quadro working on ubuntu 9.10.
[16:08] <k0d3g3ar> dbear:  I just finished setting up my dual display.  What ya need?
[16:09] <Pelo> basrah, your best bet would be to do a search in the forum for the model   www.ubuntuforums.org
[16:09] <llutz> dbear: gksudo nvidia-settings
[16:09] <dbear> I did find a couple of pointers on the forums. one was to remove etc/xorg.conf
[16:09] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: well, try System->Systemsettings-> Paket sources
[16:09] <root51> how to change my xsplash
[16:09] <root51> im using 9.10
[16:09] <dbear> k0d3g3ar: when using the nividia settings tools when I go to save, I get the error that it can't parse xorg.conf
[16:09] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: I meant software sources my bad
[16:09] <SPhcT> does webcam driver for ubuntu 7.10 will work on ubuntu 9.10??? i find small tutorial here for my wbecam:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581307&page=3
[16:09] <root51> any idea
[16:10] <bubulein> dbear: see hp.com and search xw6000 a workstation. u can find driver and a manual
[16:10] <k0d3g3ar> dbear:  Yep, that's a bug in that tool set.  Use the 'Preview' option to see the xorg.conf changes it wants to make and then manually copy that code into your xorg.conf outside of their software
[16:10] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: or it's named software repositories
[16:10] <root51> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[16:10] <root51> gksudo nvidia-settings
[16:10] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: I'm not 100% sure because I've german menues :/
[16:11] <k0d3g3ar> dbear:  But what I can tell you is that its worth studying how xorg.conf works because you will probably want to tweak it manually.  Don't rely entirely on nvidia-settings for complex setups
[16:11] <rdunnion> Hi all. pstocanonij is failing and I get the following debug output:DEBUG: pstocanonij start. ERROR: illegal option. ERROR: can't open file. the permissions are 755, any ideas?
[16:11] <dbear> k0d3g3ar: ... ah.. will try that.
[16:11] <root51> how to change my xsplash
[16:11] <root51> im using ubuntu karmic 9.10
[16:11] <Fauntix> in my software sources -> other software: i have http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[16:11] <curious_george> any downloaders supporting user/pass login?
[16:11] <k0d3g3ar> dbear:  what I'm doing is trying to get a custom xorg.conf to change based on different grub2 menu selections.  One for my laptop when I'm traveling and one for my desktop config when I get back in.
[16:11] <bubulein> curious_george: wget
[16:12] <dbear> k0d3g3gar: sounds good -- dual screens when plugged in, single display when mobile.
[16:12] <woodyjlw> a friend bought a server with 12 gig of memory and 3 scuzzy drives and is a quad processor and he wants to install linux on it to make it a server. would ubuntu work for this? or is there a better distro for that
[16:12] <SPhcT> does webcam driver for ubuntu 7.10 will work on ubuntu 9.10??? i find small tutorial here for my wbecam:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581307&page=3
[16:12] <curious_george> bubulein, uhh... I want to use rapidshare.com wget is command line a bit inconvenient. Spoiled by flashget.\
[16:12] <k0d3g3ar> dbear:  one other thing...  You might want to try and make sure that all of your monitors share common display resolution because if you don't its a bit weird trying to make twinview look good
[16:12] <basrah> hmm
[16:12] <basrah> seriously
[16:12] <ikonia> woodyjlw: ubuntu would work fine
[16:12] <milicap> any c programmer here
[16:12] <milicap> ?
[16:12] <milicap> i need help
[16:12] <blakkheim> woodyjlw: it would work but there might be better options
[16:13] <ikonia> milicap: why ?
[16:13] <basrah> there is no one who is using ubuntu with focusrite saffire 6 usb soundcard?
[16:13] <bubulein> curious_george: use the gui
[16:13] <Fauntix> in my software sources -> other software: i have http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[16:13] <Soyo> milicap /join #c
[16:13] <curious_george> bubulein, how do you do that m8?
[16:13] <ikonia> it's ##c
[16:13] <blakkheim> curious_george: a gui isn't needed, download plowshare and use that
[16:13] <curious_george> ok
[16:13] <anil56554> woodyjlw: ubuntu will be just fine for servers
[16:13] <woodyjlw> blakkheim,  what would be better option
[16:13] <root51> any tools for changing xsplash
[16:14] <ikonia> woodyjlw: opinions are subjective and it depends what you want to serve,
[16:14] <Soyo> yeah I guess it is ##c
[16:14] <blakkheim> woodyjlw: that's a matter of opinion, you might want to do some research on different distributions.
[16:14] <bubulein> curious_george: afaik there is a firefox plugin, too
[16:14] <ikonia> woodyjlw: ubuntu is an acceptable server distro
[16:14] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: remove the repo and paste this into a shell sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/karmic.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[16:14] <curious_george> bubulein, nothing seems to support logging in to a site m8
[16:14] <dbear> k0d3g3ar: how do I preview the settings the nvidia tools wants to make .. I don't see a preview button.
[16:14] <woodyjlw> ok
[16:15] <k0d3g3ar> dbear: if you hit 'apply' it should automatically set it up the way you want it
[16:15] <bubulein> curious_george: https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/8376
[16:15] <lara> ola
[16:15] <SPhcT> can somone help me find drivers for this webcam: bus 002 Device 003: ID 05e3:0503 Genesys Logic, Inc.
[16:15] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: after you've ran that command run sudo apt-get update and then you should be able to install wine using apt-get install wine
[16:16] <bubulein> curious_george: http://rs-downloader.blogspot.com/
[16:16] <curious_george> sweet
[16:16] <root51> i can't change my xsplash
[16:16] <dbear> k0d3g3ar: when I do 'apply,' I get a dialog, cannot apply, the current settings cannot be completedly applied du to one or more of the following reasons:... a restart of the xserver is required
[16:17] <dbear> so - I press apply what is possible.
[16:17] <bubulein> somone familar with accassibility for bline people? Im looking for a way to have a BEEP in grub to know what i have to choose
[16:17] <k0d3g3ar> dbear:  Are you using X Server settings, or Twinview?
[16:17] <k0d3g3ar> dbear:  ie have multiple seperate X-Windows running in parallel?
[16:18] <SPhcT> KaffeeJunky123, can u help me with webcam driver
[16:18] <SPhcT> KaffeeJunky123, this is my webcam and i cant install it bus 002 Device 003: ID 05e3:0503 Genesys Logic, Inc.
[16:18] <KaffeeJunky123> SPhcT: I'm sorry I don't have any expirience with webcams :O
[16:19] <dbear> k0d3g3ar: selected separate X screen option in the nvidia control panel
[16:19] <SPhcT> KaffeeJunky123, ok than i will wait for other...
[16:19] <curious_george> that thing is for windows only, anyway but going to try the plowshare thing.
[16:19] <freakynl> bubulein: sorry can't help you there, however, i frequently do it blind... the menu doesn't 'loop', ie if you hit bottom or top it won't continue on the other side, so if you know the number of entries that should be ok. i just press down a lot until i'm certain grub is loaded (once key is pressed it won't autoboot) and then count how many spots up before enter
[16:19] <bubulein> dbear: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c00063015/c00063015.pdf <-
[16:19] <dbear> k0d3g3ar: the first display works find
[16:19] <k0d3g3ar> dbear:  oh, ok.  I don't have mine setup that way.  I have one big extended desktop
[16:20] <SPhcT> need help with wbecam driver i cant find it..
[16:20] <dbear> bubulein: looking at the pdf. thanx
[16:20] <Fauntix> when i run sudo apt-get update it says E: Type '--2010-02-04' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[16:20] <Marcofe> hi everybody
[16:20] <llutz> SPhcT: gl860.sf.net    read instructions
[16:20] <KaffeeJunky123> SPhcT: http://gl860.sourceforge.net/
[16:20] <k0d3g3ar> dbear:  I need to be able drag & drop windows between displays
[16:20] <webbb82> ok i want to dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu , i already shrunk my windows partition in half , now i have 250 gb of unalocated hard drive space, but when i put the install cd in and get to the partition section i dont get any option to install to unused diskspace, how do i install it to the unalocated space????
[16:20] <k0d3g3ar> dbear:  you can't do that with separate X sessions
[16:20] <webbb82> any advice?
[16:20] <KaffeeJunky123> SPhcT: found that by googleing the device id + name
[16:20] <bubulein> freakynl: im supporting some people from australia on an othere channel / server perhaps u have time to visit us
[16:20] <SPhcT> KaffeeJunky123, it makes error at the .ko file
[16:21] <KaffeeJunky123> SPhcT: Did you follow the instructions?
[16:21] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits I've always test it with some specific scenes in movie and no tearing at all occured after I've installed 185
[16:21] <bubulein> freakynl: on grub 1 i could ad hex07 so it beeps
[16:21] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits 185 driver fixed the tearing absolutely
[16:21] <Marcofe> hi
[16:21] <Fauntix> kaffee i will have to continue this later i have to go to work
[16:21] <freakynl> bubulein: going home soon and i'm not blind i'm just to lazy to switch my tv to pc input before it's booted up :), also still on grub v1 :D
[16:22] <KaffeeJunky123> Fauntix: good bye and gl
[16:22] <SPhcT> KaffeeJunky123, ye i think so somone help me from chat... there is driver still in developent..
[16:22] <bubulein> freakynl: thx
[16:22] <SPhcT> llutz, does this work?
[16:22] <anil56554> webbb82: you have to make a partion of unacolated space
[16:22] <Necro-File> I am having some trouble installing to an Acer netbook; using the desktop i386 9.10 iso, I have no mouse and keyboard support during the installation. Once I get to the language selection, I can't proceed because I can't click "next." I can't seem to get the netbook remix iso to boot from USB properly, and was just wondering if it's necessary to use the netbook remix ISO to install to a...
[16:22] <Necro-File> ...netbook, or if it was just an interface change specifically for the smaller screens.
[16:22] <llutz> SPhcT: i don't know, i don't use webcams or other "win-only" stuff
[16:22] <m_fulder> why do I get the error Acces denide for user 'root'@'localhost' when trying to do "mysql -u root" ?? :O
[16:23] <KaffeeJunky123> SPhcT: be careful on the http://gl860.sourceforge.net/ are also instructions for another device, you have to follow the instructions for the 0503 device
[16:23] <webbb82> it says i already have too many main partitions
[16:23] <freakynl> bubulein: hope it helps... if you know your pc (ie approx time until when it loads) it's doable, but i practically live with my pc, then again, blind ppl might have better sense of time
[16:23] <Pelo> webbb82, you can only have  4 primary partiotions,  if you want more you need to make .... logical ones,  nested
[16:23] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, i told you that it's driver issue. with compiz set to vblank or not?
[16:23] <llutz> SPhcT: it's called to be alpha, likely it will fail
[16:23] <SPhcT> KaffeeJunky123, ok i will try it again
[16:24] <webbb82> i only have one backup partition then the main one thats only 2
[16:24] <vincent_> coucou marie
[16:25] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits: compiz is set to vblank
[16:25] <vincent_> je t'aime chérie
[16:25] <freddie_> !addon
[16:25] <michaeldobrovits> tobi_, sweet. i'm glad your tearings were fixed
[16:26] <babbio> i'm having this error when updating system : W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5
[16:26] <babbio> what should i do?
[16:27] <tobi_> michaeldobrovits thx for your help :)
[16:29] <sayanriju> babbio, sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys  5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5
[16:29] <KaffeeJunky123> I'm having trouble with my alt gr key, it quits working after some time, here's the xev output of me pressing the alt gr key http://pastebin.org/86291
[16:30] <sayanriju> babbio, then sudo apt-get update
[16:30] <KaffeeJunky123> I'm using an usb keyboard and an asus m2n32sli deluxe mainboard, the problem occurs since a bios update
[16:30] <KaffeeJunky123> restarting gdm will fix it for some time
[16:30] <souhail> hi all
[16:31] <babbio> thanku.....
[16:31] <Magellan> query
[16:32] <Mateo_> hey :)  back ...
[16:32] <Mateo_> anyone who already has tried to explorer a .disk from wubi with explore2fs please ? because it looks like i can't ::s
[16:33] <cyberjunk502> subversion error
[16:33] <Anarki2004> anybody know why grub returns the error "no such device: f74c83c6-1280-40c5-8314-0e209ed3b0c1"
[16:34] <Necro-File> I am having some trouble installing to an Acer netbook; using the desktop i386 9.10 iso, I have no mouse and keyboard support during the installation. Once I get to the language selection, I can't proceed because I can't click "next." I can't seem to get the netbook remix iso to boot from USB properly, and was just wondering if it's necessary to use the netbook remix ISO to install to a...
[16:34] <Necro-File> ...netbook, or if it was just an interface change specifically for the smaller screens.
[16:34] <cyberjunk502> need help subversion error while executing svn update error is Skipped '-'
[16:35] <genii> Necro-File: You can install from a regular i386 CD and install ubuntu-netbook package, etc
[16:36] <cyberjunk502> need help subversion error while executing svn update error is Skipped '-' anyone help
[16:36] <Necro-File> Is there something I need to do to get the keyboard and touchpad to work?
[16:36] <Necro-File> nvm
[16:36] <Necro-File> it seems to work now XD
[16:36] <KaffeeJunky123> my alt-gr key stops working as soon as I use one of the media keys on my g15, I'm on Ubuntu 9.04 with an asus m2n32sli deluxe mainboard, any1 an idea what could case that?
[16:39] <Anarki2004> i need assistance configuring GRUB to boot 9.10. I have XP installed on one partition and the GRUB loader boots without any issues. When I select "ubuntu" GRUB returns with "error: no such device: f74c83c6-1280-40c5-8314-0e209ed3b0c1"
[16:40] <albasheers> When launching , minimizing , maximizing any application ubuntu karmic koala hangs , any fixes for this issue
[16:40] <cretzul> este cine on
[16:40] <cretzul> este cine on
[16:41] <ubuntu> hi everyone
[16:42] <NfNitLoop> Does the Ubuntu Desktop CD allow you to boot from CD?  Or is there a version that does that?
[16:42] <BeardedChimp> If I have the interfaces file set to dhcp, how can I set it so that it reverts to a static ip if dhcp fails?
[16:42] <Myrtti> NfNitLoop: yes, it does
[16:42] <DJones> NfNitLoop: The desktop cd is a live cd which will boot and run in memory
[16:42] <michaeldobrovits> NfNitLoop, yep it is a live cd
[16:42] <NfNitLoop> Cool.
[16:42] <KaffeeJunky123> I'm having issues with alt gr not working after I've pressed a media key on my g15, I'm on ubuntu 9.04, anyone an idea how to slove that issue?
[16:42] <ubuntu> it allows us to boot from itself
[16:42] <NfNitLoop> The server version (which I have burned) seems not to be a liveboot.
[16:43] <ubuntu> nick: 20boy
[16:43] <nerdy_kid> anyone know when the KDE 4.4RC3 packages are coming to kubuntu?
[16:43] <Myrtti> NfNitLoop: the server version doesn't come with X, true
[16:43] <Myrtti> NfNitLoop: it should boot the computer, though
[16:43] <DJones> NfNitLoop: No, the server version isn't a live cd, plus it doesn't have a gui interface so you'd be using command line if you installed from it
[16:43] <Mateo_> noone ?
[16:43] <ubuntu> how do i change me name, please?
[16:43] <KaffeeJunky123> nerdy_kid: if you really want them you could try to compile them yourself
[16:44] <Myrtti> ubuntu: /nick nickname
[16:44] <Myrtti> there ya go
[16:44] <NfNitLoop> Ok, thanks for the help!  I just didn't want to go down that path if it couldn't liveboot.   It's been a while since I installed fresh.
[16:44] <me20> n/nick me2010
[16:44] <DJones> NfNitLoop: If you're machine is capeable of it, you can also boot from a USB stick
[16:44] <me2010> a'ite i managed it
[16:44] <me2010> how to quit chat ?
[16:44] <NfNitLoop> I've got a system running some unknown distribution of Linux and we had a RAID failure...  so I'm going to use liveboot to try to diagnose WTH is going on.
[16:44] <nerdy_kid> KaffeJunky my processer sucks, and it would probably make a mess out of my system.
[16:45] <subspider> hey everybody
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yyo
[16:46] <subspider> i have a sound card that can hold more than one output how can i configure cus my headset is not working
[16:46] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: last try sorry... i can't access the .disk with explorer2fs, any alternative ? (the other one on the wubi guide doesn't work for me )
[16:47] <zealot> man
[16:47] <zealot> theres so much disconnect/connect flooding in here
[16:47] <zealot> how do you guys manage to have a conversation
[16:47] <korb> can someone recommend me a good GATEWAY SOFTWARE GPL that has nice and easy web administration and limitation capabilites as timer and bandwidth ?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> zealot: filter it out
[16:47] <sebsebseb> Mateo_:uhmm  there will be  others about who can help you, but you need to tell them your problem
[16:47] <zealot> how do i do that in irssi?
[16:48] <Myrtti> !quietirssi | zealot
[16:48] <zealot> lol
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> zealot, not sure, i use pidgin which has a plugin. i'm sure it has a command you can use though
[16:48] <Mateo_> Yep, i'm trying to open a .disk from a wubi install to take my files, but i can't access to it with the explorer2fs soft
[16:48] <subspider> i have a sound card that can hold more than one output how can i configure cus my headset is not working
[16:48] <Mateo_> (i'm running windows seven actually but have a live CD on hand)
[16:49] <slnner> anyone that knows how to enable active scripting under wine could pm me pls?
[16:49] <zealot> subspider: install OSS4
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> Mateo_, can't you boot to the disk to get out what you need instead?
[16:50] <subspider> thnks
[16:50] <korb> can someone recommend me a good GATEWAY SOFTWARE GPL that has nice and easy web administration and limitation capabilites as timer and bandwidth ?
[16:50] <zealot> subspider: and get rid of ALSA
[16:50] <subspider> rid??
[16:50] <zealot> yes remove it
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> !ics | korb
[16:50] <chisel_> could someone walk me thru a installation of a tar.gz puhleez?
[16:50] <subspider> hm ok
[16:50] <zealot> ALSA has all kinds of problems
[16:50] <Mateo_> ActionParsnip: my boot is broken, i don't know how to solve that, i'm stuck on a screen with GRUB4DOS ......... MenuEnd: 0x.... and a prompt
[16:50] <zealot> its a huge mess
[16:50] <zealot> OSS4 works a lot better
[16:50] <zealot> i dont know if theres a deb package for it yet
[16:50] <subspider> nice man
[16:50] <zealot> you might have to compile from source
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> Mateo_, restore from backups then, much easier
[16:51] <subspider> i'm gone gi it a try
[16:51] <Mateo_> ActionParsnip: restore from backups ? how ? which backup ?
[16:51] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: he has some data in wubi that he wants to get hold of
[16:51] <slnner> making sound work with alsamixer was pretty easy for me.
[16:51] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: ,but wubi won't load up Ubuntu
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> Mateo_,if the data is important you will have made a backup
[16:52] <Mateo_> ....
[16:52] <Mateo_> i usually do, but not this time and of course, here it happens
[16:52] <zealot> yeah you can use alsamixer
[16:52] <Mateo_> law of murphy ?
[16:52] <zealot> thats like the one neat thing alsa has
[16:52] <zealot> oss doesnt really have any good commandline mixers that im aware of
[16:52] <subspider> almixer
[16:52] <zealot> theres one, but its completely broken
[16:52] <subspider> ok
[16:52] <Mateo_> ActionParsnip: so i don't have any
[16:53] <zealot> well it has commandline mixer by default
[16:53] <zealot> but its not graphical
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Mateo_, eseentially yes. this is one reason i hate wubi, you cant boot to livecd and fix it as its not a true install
[16:53] <freddie_> cè qualcuno italiano?
[16:53] <subspider> ok
[16:53] <ben_> do they have video for wallpaper in ubuntu
[16:53] <sebsebseb> !it | freddie_
[16:53] <MoonShadow> !answer
[16:53] <MoonShadow> !question
[16:53] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: yep what ActionParsnip said,  your not the only one to have had data in it, and then problem though
[16:54] <slnner> anyone know how to enable active scripting under wine?
[16:54] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: really wubi probably shoudn't be relyed on for any important data, just to get a feel for Ubuntu, then  do a real partitioend install :)
[16:54] <Mateo_> ActionParsnip: that's the last time i install a wubi one ... next time will be a real one but first i REAAALLLY have to get my data back
[16:54] <djungelkraem> i need a picture-uploading site. anyone?
[16:54] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: i will just after all my backups
[16:54] <Mateo_> :)
[16:54] <llutz> sebsebseb: independ on your kind of installation: if you have valuable data, you have to backup it period
[16:55] <zealot> hey
[16:55] <zealot> if you are going to install ubuntu
[16:55] <zealot> and dual boot
[16:55] <zealot> do not use gparted
[16:55] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: and sure what llutz   put  whatever install/OS you got  important data should be backed up
[16:55] <zealot> i dont know why they still include gparted with ubuntu
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> Mateo_, there may be guides on how to mount the file under linux otherwise I have no idea
[16:55] <zealot> but it has segfaulted every single time ive used it
[16:55] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: he has tried something, but didn't work out for him
[16:56] <zealot> and ruined all the data on my hardddrive
[16:56] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: I guess he was doing something wrong
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> zealot: its really useful for partitioning disks
[16:56] <zealot> use cfdisk
[16:56] <zealot> no its not
[16:56] <zealot> i mean
[16:56] <zealot> its useful in that it has a nice graphical interface
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> zeltak, thats your poor use o the app then, gparted is a great app
[16:56] <sebsebseb> zealot: gparted is useful
[16:56] <zealot> but its completely unstable
[16:56] <sebsebseb> zealot: if you don't want to use gparted, just use manual instal
[16:56] <zealot> and is prone to crash right in the middle of partitioning
[16:56] <zealot> and corrupt all the data on everything
[16:57] <zealot> so use cfdisk
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> zealot, did you update gparted before using it?
[16:57] <slnner> ya i had no problems with gparted
[16:57] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: well patience I guess,  there will be someone here later who can help  you with Wubi probably
[16:57] <zealot> zealot: of course not it was on the ubuntu livecd
[16:57] <zealot> i just threw out the livecd and got the alternate install cd
[16:57] <slnner> anyone know how to enable active scripting under wine?
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> zealot, you can still update the envioronment n the livecd
[16:57] <zealot> and used the partitioner in that
[16:57]  * Psilocybin_Elf waves.
[16:57] <zealot> ActionParsnip: whats the point
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> sipior, i'd ask in #winehq
[16:57] <ben_> are there animated backgounds for ubuntu?
[16:57] <Mateo_> yep, patience
[16:57] <zealot> ActionParsnip: when i can just use fdisk or cfdisk
[16:58] <slnner> thx ActionParsnip
[16:58] <sipior> ActionParsnip: tab-complete failure? :-)
[16:58] <zealot> cfdisk is probably the easiest partitioner you could ever use
[16:58] <yaaar> howdy
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> zealot, there will most likely be an upddate for it which fixes bugs etc like any other update
[16:58] <Mateo_> sebsebseb: if at least i could get my data back ... that would be wonderfull :)
[16:58] <zealot> and its never caused me any problems
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> zealot,it may fix the issue you are having
[16:58] <sebsebseb> Mateo_: you can also try ubuntuforums
[16:58] <zealot> ActionParsnip: no thanks ill just use cfdisk
[16:58] <ericstewart> Do apt-get and aptitude use the same local package database?
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> zealot, thats fine too
[16:58] <ppaulhus> Hi. I have a directory with those permissions: drwxr-s---     how can i remove that s for the group?
[16:58] <Darks7ar> Hi.Is here someone who is familiar with couter strike servers?
[16:59] <korb> can someone recommend me a good GATEWAY SOFTWARE GPL that has nice and easy web administration and limitation capabilites as timer and bandwidth ?
[16:59] <zealot> ActionParsnip: ubuntu really shouldnt include unstable software
[16:59] <zealot> especially unstable disk partitioners
[16:59] <axz> Guys whats does this mean and how to activate it? nm-pptp-service-6125 log[main:pptp.c:314]: The synchronous pptp option is NOT activated
[16:59] <llutz> ppaulhus: sudo chmod g-s
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> zealot, read you EULA dude
[16:59] <zealot> ActionParsnip: why?
[16:59] <sebsebseb> zealot: gparted is a good program
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> zealot, linux comes with zero garuntees and no sla
[16:59] <zealot> ActionParsnip: I know canonical isnt responsible for any damages
[16:59] <ppaulhus> llutz: and what exactly is the difference between s or S ?
[16:59] <zealot> im just trying to tell other people here
[16:59] <zealot> dont mess around with gparted
[17:00] <sebsebseb> zealot: no
[17:00] <sebsebseb> zealot: it works for most people just fine
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> zealot, i've never had an issue with it personally
[17:00] <zealot> cause you might ruin your other partitions
[17:00] <zealot> just stick with something thats tried and true
[17:00] <zealot> like fdisk
[17:00] <zealot> or cfdisk
[17:00] <sebsebseb> zealot: gparted is tried and used
[17:00] <zealot> nah
[17:00] <sipior> zealot: yes, "easy to use" for our new users :-)
[17:00] <zealot> every time i used it it segfaulted while partitioning
[17:00] <sebsebseb> zealot: also most people don't use the commands  or anything that would run in the shell, to set up partitions, that do Ubuntu
[17:00] <zealot> and i used several different versions
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> zealot, you are using linux though so you are not forced to use gparted in any way
[17:01] <axz> Could someone please help me with VPN problem here is the error > http://pastebin.com/d795c139d
[17:01] <llutz> ppaulhus: S?
[17:01] <zealot> sebsebseb: well thats kind of dumb
[17:01] <zealot> i mean
[17:01] <dbruns> I set up my ubuntu server to allow me to log in thru ssh and authenticate without a password  a while ago and in the process, I somehow disabled the ability to login with a password, where is that located/ I'm assuming in /etc/ssh/ssh_config or sshd_config but I can't seem to find it
[17:01] <zealot> if you're gonna use UNIX
[17:01] <zealot> you should probably learn some UNIX commands
[17:01] <FloodBot2> zealot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:01] <kristian_> is there any solution for waking up karmic - since if i try it stays in the screensaver mode and i have to activate the ESCAPE button several times until I can log in.
[17:01] <ppaulhus> llutz: the permission im trying to replicated are those: drwxr-s--- 2 mysql adm  4096 2010-02-04 15:16 mysql   and when I did g+s it now prints this drwxr-S--- 2 mysql     adm    4096 2010-02-04 16:48 mysql
[17:02] <zealot> you can only do so much with all these bloated graphical tools
[17:02] <zealot> and they are a lot slower
[17:02] <zealot> and buggier
[17:02] <sipior> zealot: is there a point to your rambling?
[17:02] <zealot> yeah; dont use gparted
[17:02] <newbie005> is there a way to superimpose an image of text that I specify over an existing image?
[17:02] <ppaulhus> llutz: notice the capital s... not sure if it means anything
[17:02] <sebsebseb> zealot: graphical tools can be slower, but they are usueally fine for what they do
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> zealot, true but users like guis, i fnd as they delve deeper they will tend towards the trminal
[17:02] <zealot> nah thats not what happens
[17:02] <zealot> if you have a system that holds their hand all the time
[17:03] <zealot> and tries to guide them through everything step by step
[17:03] <sebsebseb> zealot: if you want to use command line tools and so on more,  use Gentoo or something
[17:03] <sipior> zealot: look this is off-topic. time to move along.
[17:03] <zealot> they become dependent on that kind of stuff
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> zealot, its what i've seen so i'm saying it does, as with life there is no hard and fast rule
[17:03] <zealot> and when it breaks, and it always does eventually, they are screwed
[17:03] <llutz> ppaulhus: i wonder about the capital S, only know lowercase s
[17:03] <zealot> like for example
[17:03] <zealot> what if sudo breaks
[17:03] <zealot> on ubuntu
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> zealot, boot to recovery root console and fix
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> zeltak, or liveCD
[17:04] <Dc> hi all I've been trying to fix a problem with two laptops that wont boot. when i try to use a start up disk it starts to load then freezes up. there is a led that looks like the cap lock that starts flashing. anyone else ever have this problem.
[17:04] <sebsebseb> Pici: oh he was evading a ban, that explains it,  that guy did seem like a sort of troll
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> Dc: try some boot options, you should disable the boot splash so youcan see whats what
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> DC: also test your ram
[17:05] <newbie005> found it using the convert and composite command
[17:05] <Dc> they are owned by my sister and my wife's friend. i tried the mem test... both good
[17:05] <daftykins> Dc: also flashing caps lock can sometimes be laptop manufacturer based error reports
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | Dc
[17:06] <Dc> about to try disabling the splash
[17:06] <Dc> i love this community and all of the help... thanks everyone
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> Dc: and the community loves you
[17:07] <llutz> ppaulhus: ah, S means sgid set, but not execute
[17:07] <ppaulhus> llutz: yeah, i saw that on wikipedia... but i dunno how to change the S to s
[17:07] <llutz> ppaulhus: chmod g+x
[17:07] <ppaulhus> llutz: whatever I try doesnt seem to work
[17:08] <ppaulhus> llutz: ahh thx... i did g-x... stupid
[17:08] <dralcohen> I'm looking into getting a netbook (probably an Asus) for making presentations (open office, pdf, etc).  Most of the netbooks are limited to 1024x600 screen resolution.  I want to double check that a netbook with Ubuntu running on it would be able to send 1024x768 images to the projector.  Has anyone confirmed that this can be done?
[17:08] <axz> Could someone please help me with VPN problem here is the error > http://pastebin.com/d795c139d
[17:08] <VectorX> hi
[17:08] <flootenkerp> Erm, hi. I screwed up pretty badly with compiz config settings, and now I can't see it, literally. I can open it up, and it IS there, but I can't see it at all. I was editing in brightness opacity and saturation, and did something that made it happen
[17:09] <VectorX> i got a 802.11n wireless pci card in my pc, but i am only connecting at 11b ? how can i fix this ?
[17:09] <flootenkerp> I was editing windows, I clicked on the + sign, and then clicked on grab. I grabbed the exact windows I was working on, cliked okay, but I think it made it a bit... TOO transparent
[17:09] <daftykins> flootenkerp: delete your config from ~/.compiz and reboot
[17:09] <flootenkerp> Thank you daftykins.
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> VectorX, does the router support n?
[17:10] <VectorX> ActionParsnip:  yes
[17:10] <VectorX> it was working fine on windows i was getting over 100mbps
[17:11] <VectorX> now its at 2mbps
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> VectorX, run: sudo lshw -C network | grep product
[17:11] <VectorX> its using the braodcom STS driver
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> VectorX, what is the wifi dapter output?
[17:11] <VectorX> product: BCM43XG
[17:11] <popeye_> MARK SHUTTLEWORTH AND CANONICAL ANNOUNCE LINUX FOR NIGGERS
[17:11] <popeye_> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
[17:11] <popeye_> ISLE OF MAN - June 1, 2006 - At a press conference today, Canonical CEO and Free Software spokesman Mark Shuttleworth announced the immediate availability of version 6.06 of the Ubuntu Linux distribution. The latest version, known by its code name, "The Diaper Drake," includes special features designed to make Linux easier and more comfortable for niggers the world over.
[17:11] <popeye_> "Niggers have always had trouble understanding new technology," Shuttleworth began. "Computers are no exception. Some people have said this is because niggers are dumb, but I believe the real problem is that technology has traditionally been designed for white people. Ubuntu changes all that. It was developed from the ground up with niggers in mind. It will usher in a whole new era of Afro-ergonomic computing."
[17:11] <FloodBot2> popeye_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:12] <Mateo_> ActionParsnip: i'm reading this:: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20can%20I%20access%20my%20Wubi%20install%20and%20repair%20my%20install%20if%20it%20won%27t%20boot?  but how can i get the device name (sda1 or sda2) when i'm on the liveCD please ?
[17:12] <FloodBot2> popeye_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:12] <popeye_> "Niggers have always had trouble understanding new technology," Shuttleworth began. "Computers are no exception. Some people have said this is because niggers are dumb, but I believe the real problem is that technology has traditionally been designed for white people. Ubuntu changes all that. It was developed from the ground up with niggers in mind. It will usher in a whole new era of Afro-ergonomic computing."
[17:12] <popeye_> Shuttleworth presented an overview of some of the features users could expect in the latest version of Ubuntu, including an Ebonics-to-English converter, African "tribal beats" sound and desktop theme, and a collection of rap music and gay pornography, "which of course will be encoded using patent and royalty-free formats," Shuttleworth added, smiling. He proceeded to elaborate, but OpenOffice.org Impress crashed at that point.
[17:12] <popeye_> "But this release isn't just about new features," Shuttleworth said, making a quick segue to the humanitarian and ideological concept behind Ubuntu. "This new version brings black men closer together than ever in the spirit of Ubuntu." Shuttleworth then demonstrated the concept of Ubuntu by getting on his knees and sucking a young black boy's erect penis.
[17:12] <popeye_> About Canonical
[17:12] <popeye_> Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development,distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. Canonical is a global organization headquartered in the Isle of Man, with employees throughout Europe, North America, South America and Australia. Canonical is a technology partner of the Gay Nigger Association of America, of which it holds a 36% equity stake.
[17:12] <FloodBot2> popeye_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:12] <axz> Anyone tryed to fix this? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-964255.html
[17:12] <axz> because its major annoying!
[17:13] <perlsyntax_> Is the ATI radeon HD 4350 512mb how good is it supported in ubuntu 9.10
[17:13] <perlsyntax_> is it a pci card?
[17:13] <perlsyntax_> ?
[17:14] <perlsyntax_> Anyone?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> perlsyntax_,sounds like a pci express card to me
[17:15] <Threetimes> Hi, i need to backup my ubuntu installation (everything but /home/peter/Muziek) from my laptop to my desktop. What is the fastest way to do this? Both pc's have a gbit NIC but the network itself (most cables and the switch) is 100 mbit.
[17:15] <perlsyntax_> i was worry how good it is supported it a dual monitor
[17:16] <llutz> Threetimes: rsync
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Threetimes, could use partimage
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> !backup
[17:16] <perlsyntax_> action
[17:16] <lekefly> Question: vimo doesnt update the screen.. whats wrong..
[17:16] <VectorX> ActionParsnip: sorry lots of messages flew by wanted to check if you had said something on the issue
[17:16] <Mateo_> ActionParsnip: sorry but in case you missed it i re-paste it
[17:16] <Mateo_> ActionParsnip: i'm reading this:: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20can%20I%20access%20my%20Wubi%20install%20and%20repair%20my%20install%20if%20it%20won%27t%20boot?  but how can i get the device name (sda1 or sda2) when i'm on the liveCD please ?
[17:16] <flootenkerp> Strange, I deleted the .compiz folder and restarted, but all my settings persist
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Mateo_, sudo fdisk -l
[17:16] <flootenkerp> Unless the settings are saved somewhere else
[17:17] <soreau> flootenkerp: compiz settings are not stored in ~/.compiz
[17:17] <flootenkerp> Oh, where is it stored?
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> flootenkerp, look in ~/.config
[17:17] <perlsyntax_> ActionParsnip,Is good supped on linux?
[17:17] <soreau> flootenkerp: To reset compiz settings, use ccsm>Preferences>Reset to Defaults
[17:17] <lekefly> Could someone recommend me a VNC Server..
[17:17] <flootenkerp> Erm, that's the issue
[17:17] <perlsyntax_> i hope it 3D
[17:17] <soreau> ActionParsnip: They're not stored there either if you're using the default backend
[17:18] <flootenkerp> The reason I'm deleting the settings is because I CAN'T SEE THE COMPIZ WINDOW
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> perlsyntax_, ati.com has a driver, make sure your version of xorg is supported by it. i dont use ati cards personally
[17:18] <flootenkerp> Apologies for caps.
[17:18] <soreau> flootenkerp: You mean ccsm is not visible?
[17:18] <perlsyntax_> i see
[17:18] <flootenkerp> Exactly
[17:18] <flootenkerp> The window for compiz config and all that belongs to it isn't visible
[17:18] <flootenkerp> It starts up, but I can't see it visibly
[17:19] <perlsyntax_>  does anyone use ATI video cards in here?
[17:19] <soreau> flootenkerp: Then get to sys>prefs>appearance>visual effects and set to None
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> flootenkerp, do it in root recovery console then or s another user which can use sudo
[17:19] <soreau> flootenkerp: That will start metacity, then you can make changes in ccsm to undo whatever you did
[17:19] <soreau> ActionParsnip: It's far easier to just start metacity
[17:20] <flootenkerp> Wouldn't it be easier to delete the settings?
[17:20] <perlsyntax_> ?
[17:20] <soreau> flootenkerp: No
[17:20] <flootenkerp> I really only have wobbly windows and desktop cube on
[17:20] <flootenkerp> I'll just reset them when I restored everything.
[17:20] <soreau> flootenkerp: Actually, if you don't have simple-ccsm installed, setting to None and back to Extra will delete your settings
[17:21] <Nando> go
[17:21] <howlymowly> hi guys...   short question. i got ma gnome panel reallly messed up...  by adding an applet "swallow" to the panel..  now I can neither click on the panel properties anymore nor  removing that applet any ideas?
[17:21] <rat_> I am upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 dun dun dun lol
[17:21] <howlymowly> what a STUPID panel applet this swallow thing.. btw
[17:21] <Nando> OLA
[17:22] <IdleOne> !panels | howlymowly
[17:22] <flootenkerp> soreau, here's what I did in detail. I opened up compiz, went to opacity, brightness, and saturation, went to windows settings under opacity, clicked the + icon, and chose the grab feature, grabbed the same window I was on, and clicked okay
[17:22] <Nando> joJOjOJOJSsJSOjsOS
[17:22] <lekefly> Could someone recommend me a VNC Server..
[17:22] <soreau> flootenkerp: I know
[17:22] <flootenkerp> Then the window was still on my taskbar, but invisible
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | lekefly
[17:22] <soreau> flootenkerp: All's you have to do is get to gnome-appearance-properties>Visual Effects tab and set to None and back to whatever it's set at now
[17:22] <howlymowly> ubottu would there be any option to just remove that one applet which messed up everything? I don't want to reconfigure my panel :)
[17:23] <howlymowly> oops lol
[17:23] <flootenkerp> So edit the metacity I'm currently on?
[17:23] <flootenkerp> And find the setting in it?
[17:24] <IdleOne> howlymowly: try killing the applet
[17:24] <howlymowly> thx IdleOne, :) thx ubottu bot...   IdleOne do you know , whether  there would be any option to just remove that one applet which messed up everything? I don't want to reconfigure my panel :)
[17:24] <soreau> flootenkerp: I'm going to tell you one last time. Go to System>Preferences>Appearance>Visual Effects tab and set to None
[17:24] <howlymowly> ahh..  thx.. I will try that
[17:24] <IdleOne> howlymowly: ps au | grep swallow or whatever the applet is called
[17:24] <flootenkerp> okay, done
[17:24] <howlymowly> IdleOne: will the applet than be removed automatically for my next login?
[17:24] <flootenkerp> That's it?
[17:25] <IdleOne> howlymowly: the kill PIDNUMBER. that should stop the applet, then remove/uninstall it
[17:25] <IdleOne> then*
[17:25] <flootenkerp> oh, now I see
[17:25] <flootenkerp> Now I can view compiz
[17:25] <flootenkerp> Thanks
[17:25] <pablo> hi
[17:25] <howlymowly> IdleOne: but how do I remove it? when I killed it, it will not show up in the panel enymore...
[17:25] <macman_> question .. my laptop is 64bit .. does ubuntu have a 64bit iso ?
[17:25] <howlymowly> ahh.. lol i can just uninstall it.. of course
[17:26] <howlymowly> jesus..  it has been a long work day
[17:26] <IdleOne> howlymowly: :)
[17:26] <pablo> macman_ yes it's a AMD64 for youu
[17:26] <howlymowly> my brain works like a snail
[17:26] <howlymowly> thx IdleOne anyway :)
[17:26] <IdleOne> sure thing
[17:27] <DavidJHeinrich> hi all
[17:27] <DavidJHeinrich> i'm having a mic problem
[17:27] <macman_> pablo: my laptop isn't amd though its intel pentium
[17:27] <DavidJHeinrich> I can hear myself in the mic, feedback when I talk into it, but can't seem to record anything or talk on skype
[17:27] <DavidJHeinrich> what's going on?
[17:27] <vm158> hi. how in ubuntu i can get control on irq? i try standart driver examples, but in "dmesg|tail" is debugger log. what can you tell?
[17:27] <pablo> mine too, and works great with AMD64!!
[17:27] <Myrtti> macman_: amd is an idiosyncrosy of the ages past. the AMD64 will work with yours
[17:27] <macman_> ok
[17:28] <pablo> AMD64 means that's a 64 bit arquitecture
[17:28] <pablo> not only works in AMD64
[17:29] <erUSUL> vm158: only th ekernel can control a irq; care to explain what are you trying to do ?
[17:30] <macman_> pablo: or Myrtti this one 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD ?
[17:30] <Myrtti> macman_: yup, you can install with that
[17:30] <flootenkerp> Now that the compiz issue is solved, does anyone here know how I can make my windows transparent?
[17:30] <pablo> macman_ yes... install that iso
[17:30] <Myrtti> macman_: remember to check the md5sum after you've downloaded it, before burning, or use bittorrent
[17:31] <macman_> Myrtti: im getting it from ubuntu website
[17:31] <macman_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[17:31] <ben_> how do i change my splash screen in ubuntu
[17:31] <panfist_> i have installed ubuntu onto one hard drive out of seven in my computer. when i boot from this hard drive, i just get a blinking cursor indefinitely, no grub starting message or anything like that...
[17:31] <vm158> erUSUL, it's a virtual machine, but its can give guest OS control on hardware. i think, its can be my diplom project in my university
[17:31] <Myrtti> macman_: that same page has the md5sum you can use to check that the download was successfull without errors
[17:32] <howlymowly> ok.. IdleOne that worked... thx...  do you know whether there is a "generic" way to get a new ".profile" file in my home dirctory, since I accidentally deleted mine doesn't seem to be replaced by ubuntu though (I wonder if I need it then, anyway, because my .bashrc is still working...) its just that my ~/bin directory stopped working since then..  the path directory usually gets updated by the .profile i guess...
[17:32] <IdleOne> howlymowly: no idea
[17:33] <macman_> Myrtti: yea thanks i see teh md5sum
[17:33] <smokey6100> hey does anyone know how to fix the compiz effects
[17:33] <ben_> where do i go to learn ubuntu i'm newto linux just switched from windows
[17:33] <IdleOne> smokey6100: #compiz does :)
[17:34] <iceroot> ben_: best by trying and using it and if there are problems, this is a good place to ask
[17:34] <k0d3g3ar> ben:  congrats!  you made a good move there
[17:34] <smokey6100> I'm using ubuntu 9.10 i switched from 8.04 and lost all my effects
[17:34] <Myrtti> ben_: hanging around here is a good way to learn and ask if you get any troubles
[17:35] <ben_> lovin it so far, trying to change the splash screen?
[17:35] <IdleOne> !splash | ben_
[17:35] <enrico_> hallo,can tou support me in italian lanfuage,thank you
[17:35] <Myrtti> !it | enrico_
[17:36] <jken146> !it | enrico_
[17:36] <erUSUL> vm158: do not think this is thwe channel to discuss about writting vm machines for linux kernel ....
[17:36] <ben_> thanx
[17:36] <erUSUL> vm158: but source code is aviable you can see what othe VM do it ;)
[17:37] <IdleOne> ben_: gnome-splashscreen-manager is a package you can install using the Software center or Synaptic package manager
[17:38] <flootenkerp> Does anyone here know how to make windows transparent, or know of a transparent metacity theme for ubuntu?
[17:38] <Aethelred> I run 9.04 amd64. I've somehow removed the little magnify-glass logo (tracker?) from the menu bar (it was next to my volume control). I don't see it in the "Add to Panel" list. How can I get it back?
[17:39] <xover> guys, my mouse is acting like a tortoise, i dont know how else to describe it, its moving very slowly, works fine under windows.
[17:39] <acicula> Aethelred: i think its called the tracker applet yeah, may just be that you need to start the tracker-applet again?
[17:40] <acicula> xover: tried changing mouse acceleration settings?
[17:40] <macman_> its probably faster to download this via torrent
[17:40] <diddy> Is there a shortcut key for locking the computer screen?
[17:40] <emlod> In ubuntu, my new active windows does not always get put on top... most often this happends in firefox when clicking a link... what could be wrong? i don't have any clue where to start... also, inactive windows tend to keep sitting on top of active windows that i click, without choseing them from the taskbar...
[17:41] <trism> diddy: ctrl+alt+l according to System/Preferences/Keyboard Shortcuts
[17:41] <diddy> trism, TY.
[17:41] <Aethelred> acicula: I can get the tracker applet from [Application]->[Accessories]->[Tracker Search Tool] ... but that just brings up the Tracker window.
[17:41] <xover> acicula: its set to full, its starting acting like a slug recently, bounce the system already.
[17:42] <panfist_> i have installed ubuntu onto one hard drive out of seven in my computer. when i boot from this hard drive, i just get a blinking cursor indefinitely, no grub starting message or anything like that...
[17:42] <Futurist> xbmc
[17:42] <macman_> do i really need the amd64 iso .. im boot up with a 32bit ubuntu live cd and it looks fine
[17:42] <Futurist> any compiled successfully use bcm70012 on Karmic
[17:43] <Myrtti> macman_: it's entirely up to you
[17:43] <IdleOne> macman_: you don't "need" it if you are happy running 32bit.
[17:43] <boourns> MacGyverNL, i went with 32 bit even though i could have done 64 and have been on it for years... its fine, no real disadvantages
[17:43] <SPhcT> i get error on my extrnal disk what it has many bad sectors but i get it only on ubuntu
[17:43] <macman_> the latptop im running right now im on ubuntu 32bit .. i just got  studio 17 inch x64 yesterday
[17:43] <acicula> Aethelred: start a console and type tracker-applet
[17:44] <SPhcT> can i fix it ?
[17:44] <acicula> macman_: no you dont _need_ 64bit
[17:44] <macman_> hmm..
[17:44] <macman_> acicula: is there a diffrence ?
[17:44] <acicula> macman_: technically yes
[17:45] <macman_> 64 is for gaming correct
[17:45] <acicula> macman_: for an end user the difference is rather small
[17:45] <Aethelred> acicula: uh... ok. I did that.  Nothing seems to be happening.  ... though I guess something is running since that term hasn't returned a prompt.
[17:45] <acicula> macman_: no
[17:45] <boourns> SPhcT, typically means the drive is degrading... windows xp ignores it, and vista/7 will tell you if it's bad enough.  back up your data!  it could fail any day.
[17:45] <acicula> Aethelred: well the applet is running but not showing then odd
[17:45] <ubuntu> are there any graphical tool in Ubuntu For writing Floppy disk images?
[17:45] <vlt> Hello.  Can I tell vlc to use a larger cache?
[17:45] <acicula> macman_: none of the differences in the isos has anything to do with gaming, they do that equally well
[17:46] <acicula> !amd64
[17:46] <crypton> Hello all! Anybody synchronized photos with ipod?
[17:46] <gokturk> #ubuntu-tr
[17:46] <Aethelred> acicula: yeah, ps -ef shows trackerd and tracker-applet running
[17:46] <DavidJHeinrich> can someone PLEASE help me with my microphone?
[17:46] <Aethelred> acicula: (tracker-applet comes up twice, actually)
[17:46] <DavidJHeinrich> I can hear feedback on it, hear my typing amplified, but can't record anything!
[17:46] <DavidJHeinrich> arg
[17:46] <kane77> I have files in format 012X-something (where X is number from 4-9 and I want to rename it to something like 012Xsomethingelse, how would I do it in bash?
[17:46] <boourns> you would need to be doing processor-intensive work, and have software that takes advantage of 64 bit, to "need" 64 bit... like video encoding maybe?
[17:46] <emlod> In ubuntu, my new active windows does not always get put on top... most often this happends in firefox when clicking a link... what could be wrong?
[17:47] <acicula> Aethelred: yeah because we started it too
[17:47] <basty> Hi
[17:47] <acicula> Aethelred: i dunno, wiping the tracker configuration data may work but i dont know that much about where it puts that
[17:47] <Myrtti> DavidJHeinrich: does ekiga/skype/etc work?
[17:47] <DavidJHeinrich> nope
[17:47] <DavidJHeinrich> not for voice
[17:47] <DavidJHeinrich> nothing getting sound in works...
[17:48] <acicula> DavidJHeinrich: open a console and type gstreamer-properties
[17:48] <Aethelred> acicula: yeah, it would be just as easy for me to go spelunking the system for that info as for you to do it.
[17:48] <DavidJHeinrich> except if I adjust Mic & Mic boost sliders, this feedback disappears (no-longer hear keyboard)...so it is working somehow there
[17:48] <acicula> and then try to test your mic
[17:48] <SPhcT> boourns, i have about 164bad sectors but it is not much if i have 1tb hard drive?
[17:48] <basty> I want to create a drdb raid with ubuntu. So it seems, that for the mirror I need to have seperat partitions. My problem is, that the server is setup for good - but I didnt do special partitions. Is it possible to make some partitions after ?
[17:48] <Aethelred> acicula: I thought it was just a little panel item.
[17:48] <kane77> boourns, let's not forget about >4GB of ram :)
[17:48] <boourns> emlod, what happens, does firefox open the new link in a tab?  this is default behavior of firefox i believe, for web pages that try to open a new window
[17:48] <DavidJHeinrich> acicula, ok will try
[17:48] <Aethelred> acicula: This all started when I decided to try gdesklets
[17:48] <howlymowly> hi guys...  is there any command in ubuntu to generate a new ~/.profile  for my home directory?
[17:49] <Aethelred> acicula: I found gdesklets to be exceptionally unsatisfying
[17:49] <boourns> SPhcT, i'm no expert but i'm never comfortable when i see bad sectors... i would expect the problem to get worse over time
[17:49] <DavidJHeinrich> acicula, how do I test it in the Multimedia Systems Selector?
[17:49] <DavidJHeinrich> I see "Default Input", Plugin, Device, etc
[17:50] <acicula> input means microphon
[17:50] <emlod> boourns, no, i'm talking about pages that open in a new browser\page... they open, but they hide behind the window you clicked the link on.... same with popups, eg. calendar choosers to choose dates for a form, they hide behind the current window...
[17:50] <boourns> kane77, u an avidemux guru by any chance?  i'm in need of someone who knows it well, to pick their brain a little..
[17:50] <DavidJHeinrich> yea, it just says testing with a bar moving back and forth
[17:50] <DavidJHeinrich> how am I supposed to tell if working?
[17:50] <acicula> it stops and plays back the recording
[17:50] <boourns> emlod, hmm.  let me google for you, one sec
[17:50] <acicula> no sound means its not working
[17:50] <gerrin> looking for internet browsers other than firefox, any suggestions?
[17:50] <DavidJHeinrich> what do you mean it stops?
[17:50] <DavidJHeinrich> automatically?
[17:50] <DavidJHeinrich> or do I click "Ok"?
[17:51] <kane77> boourns, I'm using it from time to time, ut I wouldn't call myself guru, but fire away
[17:51] <vhborges88> hi all!
[17:51] <acicula> DavidJHeinrich: yeah you click ok
[17:51] <DavidJHeinrich> I see "Testing... <bar moving back and forth> ... click OK to finish"
[17:51] <DavidJHeinrich> hear nothing
[17:51] <emlod> boourns, thank you... have tried some, but it's a random problem, and haven't found anything so far... i just don't know where to start :p
[17:51] <acicula> then its not working
[17:51] <acicula> !sound
[17:51] <DavidJHeinrich> but why am I hearing myself!
[17:51] <acicula> eh?
[17:52] <acicula> you just said it didnt work?
[17:52] <SPhcT> boourns, it show also if problem is on my system disk or only external drives
[17:52] <DavidJHeinrich> ok, in GNOME Alsa Mixer, I can adjust many things, including Mic & Mic Boost...if I turn Mic or Mic Boost down to zero, I don't hear echos of my own keyboard typing into my headset
[17:52] <vhborges88> hey guys, can anyone help me? i just cant update ubuntu :(
[17:52] <kane77> acicula, he said it does not record the sound
[17:52] <DavidJHeinrich> the mic is picking up my keyboard strokes and amplifying them into my head
[17:52] <macman_> according to this i shouldn't install x64 ubuntu
[17:52] <acicula> oh like so
[17:53] <DavidJHeinrich> but yet, I can't record anything
[17:53] <boourns> kane77, i have like 100 short avi's i need to append together, they are all xvid/mp3 and the same resolution... but when i do it with an avidemux script, the audio always loses sync... i even did audio normalizing, makes no difference
[17:53] <DavidJHeinrich> i even hear music from TV in another room being amplified in my head
[17:53] <macman_> http://pastie.org/809659 < -- drawbacks of having ubuntu 64bit
[17:54] <DavidJHeinrich> so any idea what's going on?
[17:54] <acicula> whats biarch and why do you care?
[17:54] <vhborges88> i have it, and now my problem is: i cant update it
[17:54] <acicula> DavidJHeinrich: not really :/
[17:54] <rasstar> anyone ever heard of or tried ultimate edition?
[17:54] <macman_> acicula: according to that website .. x64 i can't install a lot of stuff ie synaptics ..i use a lpatop i need it
[17:54] <Myrtti> rasstar: have heard, advice everyone to stay away from it.
[17:54] <rasstar> really
[17:54] <boourns> emlod, does this sound like your problem? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mozillateam-bugs/2009-March/072412.html
[17:54] <rasstar> downloading it now. seems like ubuntu with new themes and what not
[17:54] <acicula> macman_: there are only a few select non-open source programs that arent available in 64bit
[17:55] <Myrtti> rasstar: new themes is a lame excuse to download something that limits your options for support
[17:55] <DavidJHeinrich> acicula: the fact that I'm hearing sound-feedback suggests _something_ is working right, and it is controllable from the alsa mixer so I can eliminate it
[17:55] <vhborges88> ubuntu servers are down? wtf
[17:56] <bullgard4> My Karmic computer shows on tty7 a black screen, a movable cursor and "detlef@T43:~$" but does not echo any key press. But it showed the brown login screen and I could log in normally. How to get back X?
[17:56] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: note the possibility that you have an analogue feedback loop, like my computer does
[17:56] <reeeeeesty> hey, im havin trouble on two particular questions from my homework, lol... can someone help? 9. If you do not install grub on the master boot record of the hard disk, how can you boot Linux? 2. Why would you place /var at the beginning of the disk?
[17:56] <rasstar> doesn't really matter to me
[17:56] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: that is, the sound may go from your mic to your speakers directly, without ever reaching the OS
[17:56] <acicula> DavidJHeinrich: i think that has more to do with the SC itself, but dunno, all i can do is point you to the sound trouble shooting card
[17:56] <DavidJHeinrich> maco: but if that's so, why is it controllable by the GNOME  Alsa Sound mixer?
[17:57] <Myrtti> !ultimate | rasstar, good luck with it then.
[17:57] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: because the mixer can still turn that stuff on and off, it just cant intercept the sounds
[17:57] <DavidJHeinrich> ahhh
[17:57] <DavidJHeinrich> damnit
[17:57] <DavidJHeinrich> i have onboard sound
[17:57] <emlod> boourns, no that is not it... my problems is with actual windows... not images layd on top of things...
[17:57] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: file a bug "ubuntu-bug linux"
[17:57] <g0th> hi
[17:57] <DavidJHeinrich> i wonder if its flaky, or if drivers need upgrading?
[17:58] <reeeeeesty> anyone?
[17:58] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: its a driver issue
[17:58] <g0th> I have a snd-hda-intel soundcard but mplayer/etc doesn't work
[17:58] <g0th> there is no device in /dev/snd/*
[17:58] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: test with a lucid livecd first, really... then if it doesnt work there, file a bug
[17:58] <DavidJHeinrich> lucid livece?
[17:58] <maco> g0th: definitely need to file a bug on that
[17:58] <sipior> reeeeeesty: do your own homework.
[17:58] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: lucid is the development version right now
[17:58] <g0th> how to check if the soundcard works?
[17:59] <llutz> reeeeeesty: a. you'll need another bootmanager to boot. b) maybe to speedup access
[17:59] <acicula> !sound | g0th best to start here
[17:59] <g0th> and what exactly is /dev/snd/*? How to enable it first
[17:59] <SPhcT> Disk have failing... it show also if problem is on my system disk or only external drives??
[17:59] <llutz> reeeeeesty: tell you teacher, that you didn't answer it yourself
[17:59] <acicula> g0th: its where the sound devices live
[17:59] <acicula> some of them anyway
[17:59] <DavidJHeinrich> oh, you mean, lucid is the development version of Ubuntu?
[17:59] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20100203.1/
[17:59] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: yes
[17:59] <reeeeeesty> thast what i was gonna answer anyway
[17:59] <g0th> ok, so /dev/snd/ is not related to oss/alsa?
[17:59] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: boot from a live cd to see if it's fixed in lucid yet, and if its not, file a bug
[18:00] <reeeeeesty> but i cant find it in this huge book lol
[18:00] <DavidJHeinrich> in Multimedia Systems Selector, it says my sound Device is AD198x , is that what I should look for?
[18:00] <maco> g0th: get http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh and run it in bash (not sh!) and paste the link it gives you here
[18:00] <maco> DavidJHeinrich: or pulseaudio.  im not sure about the window you're looking at though. i use kubuntu
[18:01] <macman_> thanks to all who are seeding ubuntu
[18:01] <acicula> g0th: /dev/snd/* are governed by alsa
[18:01] <acicula> g0th: which ubuntu version are you using?
[18:01] <emlod> boourns, i just figured out that it only happens when i am running rdesktop... i'll do some searching myself... thank you for your time
[18:02] <g0th>  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=c7f052648567db60e3ca7a5f99c261b9fcb8c678
[18:02] <macman_> anyone on a dell studio 17 with ubuntu 9.10 ?
[18:02] <macman_> if so how did the install go ?
[18:02] <g0th> The question was: is /dev/snd/ a userspace thing or from the kernel?
[18:02] <CAPcap> tin1
[18:02] <maco> g0th: yeah, file a bug. alsa's not recognizing your sound card at all
[18:03] <acicula> g0th: crossover
[18:03] <macman_> anyone using ubuntu to print to an actual printer ? i was on a mac a while back and printing to a shared windows computer was horrible
[18:03] <acicula> g0th: the devices are used to talk in user space to the kernel driver.
[18:03] <CAPcap> macman_, i print through a windows shared computer
[18:04] <CAPcap> printer**
[18:04] <g0th> acicula: but if they are not here, then something with my kernel is wrong, not with the userspace alsa stuff
[18:04] <g0th> right?
[18:04] <macman_> i have the driver cd for the printer but i don't think they work in linux
[18:04] <macman_> CAPcap: did you get that about the drivers ?
[18:04] <g0th> so I wonder: what module do I need to install?