[06:50] <Gnea> vgambit: the 100meg partition, of course
[06:50] <FAJALOU1> lol all good brandonmpace
[06:50] <vgambit> I didn't start doing anything yet
[06:50] <gonzaloaf_laptop> brandonmpace, ok
[06:50] <Yekyaa[Ubuntu]> cyban: were you referring to me?  i'm looking up info for it now.
[06:51] <vgambit> jamus I'd rather not do that; I just want to install linux while leaving my windows partition intact just in case
[06:51] <gonzaloaf_laptop> brandonmpace, installed
[06:51] <brandonmpace> vgambit: you don´t need a grub partition if you need only window and ubuntu. just install grub to the mbr
[06:51] <vgambit> I don't plan on sharing files between the two
[06:51] <cyban> no Yekyaa[Ubuntu]
[06:51] <vgambit> how?
[06:51] <Yekyaa[Ubuntu]> oh, ok ^^
[06:51] <Gnea> vgambit: uhm, grub doesn't need a partition, it resides in the MBR and reads off of the the / partition for configuration directives
[06:52] <vgambit> I'm confused now :/
[06:52] <jamus> vgambit:  win =ntfs 'ubu reifest or ext3 and symdrive ntfs to be mounted as /dos
[06:52] <Gnea> heh.
[06:52] <vgambit> let me explain how it was and how it is:
[06:52] <Gnea> vgambit: it really helps if you just install it already
[06:52] <gonzaloaf_laptop> brandonmpace, where should I run esd?
[06:52] <brandonmpace> Gnea:  if you have a /boot partition then it does have it´s own partition
[06:52] <vgambit> before it was one 128 gb partition with windows and the windows bootloader
[06:52] <Gnea> brandonmpace: that's true, although 100meg could cause some issues
[06:52] <jamus> vgambit: its a perfect solution it works great if u try --ur call im talking from experience
[06:53] <Gnea> vgambit: so the ntloader is on the MBR of the whole disk itself
[06:53] <vgambit> then I shrunk that partition down to 80 gb and told ubuntu to do as it pleased with the free space, which was actually 60ish gigs because the drive is much larger than 128 gb
[06:53] <brandonmpace> Gnea: that´s why I said not to bother and just make a /   and a /home and a /swap
[06:53] <vgambit> after installation, I got Error 18
[06:53] <Gnea> vgambit: why don't you just install wubi and not worry about it?
[06:53] <jamus> vgambit: when u mount it as /dos u avoid the image known as lost&fount which is a bummer
[06:53] <Gnea> !wubi
[06:53] <vgambit> right now it's just the shrunken windows partition and empty space again
[06:53] <ceil420> there is no /swap
[06:53] <ceil420> it's not a folder
[06:54] <Gnea> vgambit: well how much empty space have you allocated?
[06:54] <vgambit> I was going to use that but it wouldn't let me use all of the free space on the partition
[06:54] <brandonmpace> vgambit: you just need to find the option that installs grub to the mbr of the entire disk, which will be in one of the last steps of the installation, maybe even the one before the last
[06:54] <Yekyaa[Ubuntu]> woot, found the problem for monitor/video, yeah yeah :)
[06:54] <vgambit> right now I have 70 GB unallocated space
[06:54] <LimCore> how to run with nice -18 and real-time, but as regular user foo ?
[06:54] <Gnea> ofo course it wouldn't
[06:54] <Gnea> *of
[06:54] <vgambit> the error 18 problem stems from my bios not supporting a 160 gb hard drive
[06:55] <Gnea> o.O is it IDE or SATA?
[06:55] <vgambit> I'm trying to get around that somehow, because when I booted into the live CD, I was able to view both partitions fine
[06:55] <brandonmpace> ceil420: lol I´m sorry you know what I meant, I believe there used to be a long time ago, but I have only been around linux for 4 years
[06:55] <vgambit> IDE
[06:55] <vgambit> laptop
[06:55] <Gnea> which laptop? make/model?
[06:55] <vgambit> gateway 6510GZ
[06:55] <jamus> vgambit: i suggest that u use gparted live cd and part it to 10gb ext3 and 2gb swap
[06:55]  * Gnea notes...
[06:55] <Gnea> !laptop
[06:55] <brandonmpace> vgambit: is the bios updated to the latest version?
[06:56] <vgambit> I couldn't find an update for it
[06:56] <brandonmpace> hmm
[06:56] <vgambit> I went to the gateway driver page for the laptop, but it doesn't have a bios update listed
[06:56] <jamus> vgambit: and rest as ntfs in wich u can share thing between 2 os whichout compatibility issues
[06:57] <vgambit> jamus I don't want to share anything
[06:57] <jamus> vgambit: like music docs and vids
[06:57] <vgambit> what is on linux will only be used by linux
[06:57] <brandonmpace> vgambit: I usually do what jamus proposed
[06:57] <brandonmpace> vgambit: What is the make and model of your laptop
[06:57] <jamus> vgambit: ok its fine to do all space but u have to partit first
[06:57] <vgambit> gateway 6510GZ
[06:57] <chronographer> where is java directory in linux
[06:57] <chronographer> ?
[06:58] <chronographer> like JDK ...
[06:58] <brandonmpace> /usr/local/java    right?
[06:58] <Gnea> vgambit: okay, so let me get this straight - you bought a new hard drive for your laptop that the laptop doesn't support?
[06:58] <chronographer> nope
[06:58] <jamus> vgambit: and the thing is that linux reqiers like 10  gb at most to work and 2 gb swap so its a waste of space
[06:58] <brandonmpace> hmm
[06:58] <vgambit> I did this over a year ago and installed windows XP to it, but yes
[06:58] <badfish> if your bios can find it, you shoudl be good
[06:59] <vgambit> the only problem was that xp only saw 128 GB out of the 15*
[06:59] <MidgetSpy> hey guys i just created an ext3 partition and I'm confused about its size - it's reporting conflicting information: http://www.pastebin.ca/1206407 <-- any ideas?
[06:59] <brandonmpace> vgambit: then you´ll only be able to use the 128
[06:59] <chronographer> anyone know what " is the path into the jdk1.3 (or higher)" ?
[07:00] <vgambit> then how was the live cd able to mount both partitions?
[07:00] <Gnea> vgambit: you're just setting yourself up for a disaster then - you should either get a correctly-sized hd for your laptop, or use an external drive to install ubuntu on
[07:00] <jamus> vgambit: gparted live cd is a linux live cd wich shows u really wwhat iu have on harddrive
[07:00] <brandonmpace> vgambit: lol that´s computers for you
[07:00] <jamus> vgambit: its a surprise whatu can find
[07:00] <brandonmpace> it´s true
[07:00] <badfish> vgambit: what does your bios see?
[07:00] <vgambit> I read a forum post in a thread about error 18 where someone had a similar problem
[07:01] <Gnea> MidgetSpy: uhm, fdisk is used for a main disk, not a disk partition
[07:01] <vgambit> that person didn't encounter any issues until some new kernel update moved the kernel to the farther linux partition
[07:01] <vgambit> badfish I don't know what you mean
[07:01] <badfish> man
[07:02] <badfish> i go all night
[07:02] <badfish> i might have to go get another 40
[07:02] <Flannel> badfish: Please keep this channel on topic
[07:02] <jamus> vgambit: yea man u wil lsee it alot -im sruggeling with bad upgrade now :SS
[07:02] <Gnea> vgambit: this one? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11764
[07:02] <brandonmpace> vgambit: as I said I know what is going on. I have had this problem. You need to install to a spot on the hard drive as close to 0 as you can get
[07:02] <MidgetSpy> Gnea: OK, http://www.pastebin.ca/1206410 <-- why does df say 200M used but only 878G free?
[07:02] <vgambit> brandonmpace, what if I slide the windows partition over?
[07:03] <vgambit> that's the thread Gnea
[07:03] <question> How do I 'force download' more than one torrent in deluge. I can't see any option to enable more than one torrent. I have 10 torrents in the que but only one is downloading.
[07:03] <brandonmpace> vgambit: I wouldn´t advise ¨sliding¨ the partition, but maybe downsizing it a little bit. Make sure to defrag it in windows first!
[07:03] <Gnea> MidgetSpy: because the journal itself takes up space - the larger the partition, the larger the journal. out of 878gigs, you're going to complain about a measely 200meg? :)
[07:04] <ushimitsudoki> question: one of the place to set is under Edit > Preferences > Queue. You can set  the number of active torrents there.
[07:04] <FAJALOU1> lol that's what like .00001% :P
[07:04] <brandonmpace> Gnea is correct
[07:04] <jamus> vgambit: i wanan tell u that win will not find a drive if not initiated and formatted correctly so consider it may work just fine
[07:04] <question> ushimitsudoki: Isn't there an option for 'force download'?
[07:04] <vgambit> brandonmpace I already shrunk it from 128 gb to 87 GB
[07:04] <MidgetSpy> Gnea: I'm not complaining about the 200 megs, hehe, I'm wondering how the drive says 925G total, 878G free, but only 200M used??
[07:04] <brandonmpace> vvgam
[07:05] <question> ushimitsudoki: I don't have a tab called que in edit>preferences.
[07:05] <MidgetSpy> does it count the usable space including the journal but the free space excluding it?
[07:05] <Gnea> MidgetSpy: well i really don't know how you setup your RAID
[07:05] <question> ushimitsudoki: Got it, stupid me. Is there a way I can force download directly from the main interface?
[07:05] <vgambit> jamus I can boot into windows if I use the super grub disk
[07:05] <brandonmpace> vgambit: ok so you just need to install linux with a / partition and a swap partition in the spot between 87 and 128
[07:06] <brandonmpace> vgambit: does that make sense?
[07:06] <MidgetSpy> Gnea: it's a hardware RAID5 array, this is the 2nd partition on it and is supposed to be 1GB (which it is). I just don't know why it says there's 50G used already
[07:06] <ushimitsudoki> question: well it is there for me on the latest version (0.9.09). That's how i manage my torrents. I'm not aware of a force download option. Perhaps the deluge forums can offer a better response?
[07:06] <vgambit> so 41 GB partition?
[07:07] <jamus> vgambit:  never tried it
[07:07] <brandonmpace> vgambit: whatever it would be, yes. be sure to make a 2 gig swap partition
[07:07] <brandonmpace> vgambit: just don´t go over 128
[07:07] <vgambit> brandonmpace will I be able to use that extra unallocated space by making another ntfs or fat32 partition?
[07:07] <badfish> 2 gig swap?
[07:07] <question> ushimitsudoki: creepy interface. There is an option called maximum simultaneous download torrents. Talk about usability.
[07:07] <question> ushimitsudoki: Thank you anyways.
[07:07] <badfish> got a gig ram?
[07:07] <vgambit> by not going over 128 do you mean on the boot partition or period?
[07:07] <jamus> vgambit: for dual boot u have to set win part to be the first
[07:07] <badfish> sounds about good
[07:07] <brandonmpace> vgambit: your laptop bios does not support it, and period
[07:07] <vgambit> shucks
[07:08] <Gnea> MidgetSpy: ah, then i suppose the hardware is swapping data behind the scenes all of the time, thus taking up space on the disks themselves, requiring a certain usage amount to maintain the integrity that 5 provides.
[07:08] <brandonmpace> vgambit: lol that´s computers
[07:08] <jamus> its 0,3 if im not mistaken - any other option will fail
[07:08] <badfish> vgamit: if, on boot, you press f2 repeadedly and it finds drive, bios supports it
[07:08] <vgambit> it finds a drive and it was booting fine
[07:08] <badfish> then bios supports it
[07:08] <vgambit> but that's before I decided to try going over the 128 GB point
[07:08] <badfish> problem isn't bios
[07:08] <brandonmpace> but your xp partition was only 128 right?
[07:09] <vgambit> right
[07:09] <brandonmpace> exactly
[07:09] <badfish> over 128Gb point?
[07:09] <MidgetSpy> Gnea: no, the redundant space is taken up by a separate disk in the array, the hardware card provides the OS a full 1000GB to use (as shown by fdisk).
[07:09] <brandonmpace> I have had this proble
[07:09] <brandonmpace> problem*
[07:09] <vgambit> partitioning programs wouldn't see that extra space at all
[07:09] <badfish> vgamit: recap for me quick, please
[07:09] <jamus> vgambit: ubuntu its not ntfs or fat-- its ext3 ext 2 and riefrst
[07:09] <vgambit> windows wouldn't, and neither would any program on hiren's boot cd
[07:09] <brandonmpace> because your bios wasn´t reporting it. and he was talking about an extra partition
[07:09] <vgambit> but ubuntu did
[07:09] <badfish> ubuntu can still see all partitions though
[07:09] <FAJALOU1> vgambit:  not gparted?
[07:10] <Gnea> MidgetSpy: hrmmmm.. could you please provide a pastebin of your /var/log/dmesg?
[07:10] <badfish> vgamit: what happened?
[07:10] <badfish> you started with windows?
[07:10] <vgambit> haven't tried gparted on this old laptop yet
[07:10] <jamus> vgambit:  use gparted live cd it shows averything
[07:10] <badfish> how many hard drives?
[07:10] <vgambit> 1
[07:10] <badfish> ok
[07:11] <badfish> started with what operatin system?
[07:11] <vgambit> xp
[07:11] <badfish> still have it?
[07:11] <vgambit> yes, but I can't boot into it without using super grub disc
[07:11] <brandonmpace> vgambit: I have had this problem and I fixed it by upgrading my bios. How old is the laptop??
[07:11] <badfish> if i asked you to do it now, could you boot to it?
[07:11] <vgambit> 2005
[07:11] <vgambit> yes
[07:12] <badfish> grub works to boot to windows?
[07:12] <vgambit> super grub disc does
[07:12] <badfish> the live cd?
[07:12] <vgambit> the grub that was installed from ubuntu doesn't boot anything
[07:12] <badfish> you have to use cd?
[07:12] <vgambit> yes
[07:12] <badfish> ok
[07:12] <badfish> take cd out and restart
[07:12] <badfish> not yet
[07:12] <badfish> but
[07:12] <FloodBot2> badfish: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:12] <jamus> vgambit, brandonmpace: upgrade bios by using motherboard homepage
[07:12] <Gnea> guys
[07:13] <vgambit> I can't find out what motherboard the laptop has
[07:13] <_xyz> _xyz: is it safe to resize Vista partitions from a live Ubuntu session?
[07:13] <Gnea> badfish, vgambit: please try to fill out complete sentences.. use punctuation.. you're making the channel scroll by too fast :)
[07:13] <vgambit> I am typing in complete sentences :p
[07:13] <brandonmpace> lol.
[07:14] <jamus> xyz; no
[07:14] <_xyz> why
[07:14] <Gnea> !pm | badfish
[07:14] <brandonmpace> _xyz: vista throws a hissy fit
[07:14] <badfish> !pm | Gnea
[07:14] <_xyz> well i tried from within vista's 'disk management' tool and it kinda froze up
[07:14] <Gnea> badfish: stop.
[07:14] <jamus> xyz: do it with gparted live cd just no big changes just gradual or it will take ages
[07:15] <FAJALOU1> xyz it is recommended to shrink vista use it's paritiion thing, have you tried it again
[07:15] <brandonmpace> _xyz: also defrag in windows first!
[07:15] <_xyz> FAJALUO1: yes i did. it didn't work well. froze up (just the app, not OS), so i rebooted
[07:15] <_xyz> no damage tho
[07:16] <_xyz> brandonmpace: defrag for speed?
[07:16] <brandonmpace> _xyz: noooo
[07:16] <FAJALOU1> xyz  i would suggest defragging and then trying it again.................
[07:16] <FAJALOU1> imo
[07:16] <brandonmpace> _xyz: so that you don´t lose data
[07:16] <jamus> xyz: becouse if u are notsure what u doing u will  -- u will -- messup ur thing and its a big issue to fix it
[07:16] <Aeron|mtf> i installed the sgt-puzzles package but when i run "sgt-puzzles" from the command line it says command not found.  i ran "which sgt-puzzles" and it reported nothing.
[07:16] <FAJALOU1> i got it to work on a friends computer w/ that , but take the other ppls words for it
[07:16] <jamus> xyz; be safe , use gparted live cd
[07:16] <_xyz> jamus: so i should start with let's say moving 10 gigs from a data partition to the OS partition?
[07:17] <brandonmpace> _xyz:  it pulls your data to the front of the partition so that when you resize you´re only wiping out empty space
[07:17] <_xyz> jamus: does gparted have a defrag tool?
[07:17] <Aeron|mtf> what command do i run to play sgt-puzzles?
[07:17] <FAJALOU1> xyz no
[07:17] <MidgetSpy> Gnea: the RAID5 hardware array is /dev/sdf (sda-sdd is a software array, sde is the OS drive)
[07:17] <brandonmpace> _xyz: use the windows defrag tool
[07:18] <_xyz> alright
[07:18] <jamus> xyz; use gparted and start small size like resize to -2 gb and see how ur machine handels it
[07:18] <_xyz> sounds good
[07:18] <_xyz> thanks for all your help guys
[07:18] <brandonmpace> _xyz: also you can use the system rescue cd http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page   burn that, boot it, and when it comes up type run_qtparted
[07:18] <jamus> xyz; no it doesnt have a defrag tool
[07:18] <brandonmpace> lol he left.
[07:19] <jamus> xyz; i reccomend u O&o defrag just dont allow acces to the internet or updateds
[07:19] <brandonmpace> lol or perfectdisk
[07:19] <jamus> xyz; for win i say
[07:19] <FAJALOU1> jamus; he left
[07:19] <vgambit> brandonmpace I should make an ext3 partition with the Mount point of / and a 2 GB swap partition while staying under 128 GB HDD usage, correct?
[07:19] <brandonmpace> yes
[07:20] <vgambit> ok
[07:20] <brandonmpace> that should work
[07:20] <jamus> FAJALOU1:  ok works for everyone to
[07:20] <vgambit> Primary partition for the root, right?
[07:20] <FAJALOU1> jamus true
[07:20] <brandonmpace> mbr if you can make it.
[07:20] <vgambit> ?
[07:20] <brandonmpace> but yes
[07:20] <brandonmpace> yes
[07:21] <vgambit> you mean I should make an MBR partition?
[07:21] <brandonmpace> no
[07:21] <jamus> vgambit:  ur main linux partition is /root
[07:21] <brandonmpace> actually it´s /
[07:21] <jamus> vgambit:  it can be as small as 10 gb and work like a charm (i have such)
[07:21] <brandonmpace> vgambit: continue with what you suggested yourself
[07:22] <jim_p> hello
[07:22] <FAJALOU1> hi jim
[07:22] <brandonmpace> vgambit: just leave your windows hda1 or sda1  partition alone if you don´t want to mess with it
[07:22] <Gnea> MidgetSpy: okay...
[07:22] <vgambit> jamus 10 gigs of space is no good for me and my 17 megabit connection
[07:23] <jamus> brandonmpace:  LOL true -- i can mess my sxit up alone and dont need help :DDD
[07:23] <brandonmpace> lol.
[07:23] <vgambit> brandonmpace yeah, I need it around for visual studio. it also has a bunch of files I'd rather not go through the chore of backing up/transferring to other PCs, etc.
[07:23] <FAJALOU1> ok so when i type lspci i get that the vga controller is  ATI RAdeon Mobility M7  (7500)  will this work with compiz?  and should i use envy-ng to install b/c it is not showing up in restricted drivers.
[07:24] <P041NX> lsusb is not working/not showing the list of usb attached. Any solution to this?
[07:24] <brandonmpace> vgambit: well then go ahead and let me know how it works out :)
[07:24] <vgambit> will do
[07:24] <FAJALOU> sorry for changin in the chan :\
[07:25] <jamus> vgambit:  its good to have exta partition for things in case u mess up ur windows
[07:25] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: yes it should
[07:25] <Ape3000> Does partition resizing / moving delete my files on ext3 partitions_
[07:25] <FAJALOU> brandonmpace: it should but doesn't,,, so should i use envy-ng to install?
[07:25] <jamus> vgambit:  not all egges on 1 basket and bla bla
[07:25] <vgambit> current HDD usage is 126.1 4 GB which should be within the bios' bounds
[07:25] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: I have the intel X3100 and it works. that ati chipset is better....
[07:25] <brandonmpace> vgambit: continue then
[07:26] <FAJALOU> brandonmpace:  then just use envy-ng?
[07:26] <jamus> Ape3000:  well it souldnt but back up just in case
[07:26] <brandonmpace> I think so, are you using the ati driver?
[07:27] <jamus> Ape3000: its hard work for hd needle u know
[07:27] <vgambit> I might have another problem in that the ubuntu asked if I wanted to import my xp user settings before, but not now
[07:27] <brandonmpace> Ape3000: if you resize an ext3 partition you most likely won´t be able to access the data on it. I have tried with many tools
[07:27] <vgambit> I guess that's because the mbr worked fine then
[07:27] <jamus> Ape3000: one little slap on pc while doing it and it will mess up
[07:27] <vgambit> ok brandonmpace, I found the advanced button this time
[07:27] <vgambit> what did you want me to do concerning grub installation?
[07:28] <brandonmpace> vgambit: that´s because you did custom partitioning and left windows partition alone
[07:28] <Ape3000> But shrinking and moving should save my files?
[07:28] <brandonmpace> vgambit: is your drive hd0 or sd0 or do you know
[07:28] <FAJALOU> brandonmpace:  then just use envy-ng?
[07:28] <brandonmpace> hda or sda
[07:28] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: are you using the official ati driver?
[07:28] <vgambit> brandonmpace hd0 or /dev/sda
[07:29] <brandonmpace> vgambit: hd0        put that in the box for grub
[07:29] <jamus> Ape3000:  in general yes if u dont over shink it (use free space )
[07:29] <vgambit> brandonmpace then there's /dev/sda1, sda2, and sda-1
[07:29] <FAJALOU> brandonmpace:  currently i am not using any driver; no effects yet
[07:29] <vgambit> brandonmpace that was the default option; are you sure I shouldn't pick /dev/sda?
[07:30] <brandonmpace> vgambit: install it to >       (hd0)
[07:30] <vgambit> ok
[07:30] <brandonmpace> vgambit: it will be fine i promise lol
[07:30] <jamus> vgambit:  if on same fisical drive it should be sda1,0 sda1.3 sda1.5 and so on
[07:30] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: install the official ati driver, then try installing compiz fusion
[07:31] <vgambit> brandonmpace it just looked like that would've been the option it chose last time
[07:31] <FAJALOU> brandonmpace:  where can i find the official ones?
[07:31] <vgambit> which makes sense considering the only thing that really seemed to have gone wrong was me using space that the bios doesn't allow
[07:31] <brandonmpace> vgambit:  yes just leave it, it will work
[07:31] <jamus> FAJALOU:  add/remove
[07:31] <vgambit> and now, the wait :)
[07:31] <FAJALOU> jamus ty
[07:31] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: they should be in the add remove programs. just allow the universe/multiverse etc
[07:32] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: and type ati
[07:32] <brandonmpace> vgambit: I bet this works :)
[07:32] <FAJALOU> brandonmpace:  ty
[07:33] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: you´re welcome
[07:33] <d0wn> is there a way to have my ubuntu server broadcast a video file to another computer through the command line?
[07:33] <P041NX> I need to detect what usb devices are attached, but lsusb suddenly started to refuse showing the list. it works with the -t option, however...ideas, please.
[07:33] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: also install ccsm in synaptic under administration
[07:33] <jamus> FAJALOU:  urwlcmd
[07:33] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: that´s compiz config settings manager
[07:33] <FAJALOU> brandonmpace: ya after that i know where they are i think :)  always used nvidia, so this is new :D
[07:34] <Aeron|mtf> where is the sgt-puzzles package located when installed on Ubuntu?  i installed it and don't know what command to run to play it
[07:34] <P041NX> d0wn: simplest stream is cat videofile.avi | nc -l -p ${port of your choice}
[07:34] <raulh> hello can anyone help me?
[07:34] <FAJALOU> !ask | raulh
[07:34] <raulh> my updates seem to always get errors
[07:34] <raulh> like cannot connect ect.
[07:35] <michaelwoo> raulh, show your error message.
[07:35] <raulh> let me see if i can bring it up again.
[07:35] <raulh> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/nvidia-glx-new_169.12+<IP_ADDRESS>-18.41_i386.deb
[07:35] <raulh>   404 Not Found
[07:36] <P041NX> d0wn: for a more comprehensive vidoe streaming service, use VLC
[07:36] <brandonmpace> d0wn: VLC will do amazing things :)
[07:36] <raulh> u get that micheal?
[07:36] <CppIsWeird> is there any program that acts as a simple todo checklist?
[07:36] <michaelwoo> raulh,yes
[07:37] <d0wn> P041NX, brandonmspace: but can VLC stream even without having a monitor or anything? this is using ubuntu server 8.04
[07:37] <michaelwoo> raulh, that seem like you just cant connect to the server.
[07:37] <brandonmpace> raulh: I once had a problem like that... what version are you using of ubuntu?
[07:37] <brandonmpace> d0wn: yes
[07:37] <raulh> 8.0.4
[07:37] <raulh> i belive
[07:37] <P041NX> d0wn: yes, you can use a headless server to run the VLC server
[07:37] <FAJALOU> brandonmpace:  i am looking to get compiz effects,  the ATI binary X.org drivers say 2D ?
[07:37] <d0wn> brandonmpace, P041NX: thanks, both of you!
[07:38] <raulh> arrg this low resolution is killing me :(
[07:38] <michaelwoo> raulh, maybe you can have a try of other source which is more close you.
[07:38] <raulh> i cant find 1
[07:38] <raulh> my drivers list
[07:38] <jamus> raulh: fix it
[07:38] <raulh> showed it unactive
[07:38] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: is it the newest one?   go ahead and try compiz and see cause I forget how that´s worded but yes it says 2d for some cards
[07:38] <raulh> i can't
[07:38] <raulh> only has 2 options
[07:38] <raulh> >_>
[07:38] <FloodBot2> raulh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:38] <chuy_max> hey guys, what command can I use to append and prepend a string to every line in a file?
[07:38] <brandonmpace> d0wn: you´re welcome
[07:38] <FAJALOU> brandonmpace: i tried adding visual effects in appearance, no avail
[07:39] <raulh> i followed this method
[07:39] <raulh> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nvidia
[07:39] <brandonmpace> hmm
[07:40] <jamus> FAJALOU:  its a problem with .20 kernels im struggeling with it
[07:40] <FAJALOU> .. i am still on .19 i believe
[07:40] <P041NX> chuy_max: cat $file |sed "s:^.*$:${texttoaddatfrom}\1${text to addat back}:g"
[07:40] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: I think jamus is correct
[07:40] <Falcons_roost> !nvidia setting
[07:40] <jamus> FAJALOU:  in general u have to have the right drivers and enable effects and then use compiz
[07:40] <Falcons_roost> !nvidia
[07:40] <raulh> so im guessing i have to kill ubuntu :$?
[07:40] <zepard> Aeron|mtf, /usr/games
[07:40] <FAJALOU> but again i am only on kernel .19
[07:41] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: It will be implemented smoothly soon i´m sure
[07:41] <jim_p_busy> can someonle please kick my duplicate inactive account? it's jim_p
[07:41] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: go to a terminal and type uname -r
[07:41] <zepard> Aeron|mtf, take a look at /usr/games
[07:41] <Aeron|mtf> zepard, i don't see the directory for it in /usr/games
[07:41] <andypants2> use /kill man
[07:41] <FAJALOU> 19-generic  brandonmpace
[07:41] <brandonmpace> hmm
[07:41] <zepard> Aeron|mtf, no directory only execs
[07:42] <Flannel> jim_p_busy: You just have to wait for it to time out.  If you register it, you can ghost it.
[07:42] <P041NX> chuy_max: forgot the bracket.. cat $file |sed "s:\(^.*$\):${texttoaddatfrom}\1${text to addat back}:g"
[07:42] <jim_p_busy> ok thanks
[07:42] <jamus> FAJALOU:  always keep a version of kernel wich works and dont upgrade automaticly
[07:42] <Aeron|mtf> zepard, yet when i try to reinstall it says the package already exists.
[07:42] <jim_p_busy> i just have to wait
[07:42] <zepard> Aeron|mtf, sgt-puzz is a set of puzzles
[07:42] <Aeron|mtf> zepard, okay.....execs...i don't see it in there
[07:42] <badfish> help
[07:42] <FAJALOU> jamus:  fresh install so this is upgraded; should still have both; have proposed and backports off
[07:42] <zepard> like blackboxgame
[07:42] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: I don´t know how to fix this as the last time I used compiz on an ATI was 7.10
[07:42] <badfish> what's the command to remove a directory?
[07:42] <brandonmpace> badfish: rm
[07:42] <Aeron|mtf> zepard, there is no entry in /usr/games for it
[07:42] <jamus> FAJALOU:  or u WILL MESS UP  configurations
[07:42] <zepard> Aeron|mtf, you don't have /usr/bin
[07:42] <B3z3rk3r> evening all
[07:43] <raulh> i have the GeForce 6100 0x0242 intergrated graphics.
[07:43] <zepard> Aeron|mtf, you don't have /usr/games
[07:43] <FAJALOU> jmaus ??
[07:43] <raulh> does anyone know how to install this?
[07:43] <zepard> Aeron|mtf, ?
[07:43] <brandonmpace> badfish: rmdir
[07:43] <jamus> FAJALOU:  what?
[07:43] <brandonmpace> badfish: lol my bad
[07:43] <administrator_> hello
[07:43] <administrator_> ?
[07:43] <FAJALOU> hahaha jamus i just turned on compiz and it EATS my resources w/ no card installed correctly
[07:43] <brandonmpace> badfish: it is rmdir
[07:43] <chuy_max> P041NX, mmm, that didn't work :(, I tried it without white spaces in text to addat back, but it does not do anything
[07:43] <FAJALOU> what configs iwll i mess up
[07:43] <Gnea> !nvidia | raulh
[07:43] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: lol
[07:43] <Aeron|mtf> zepard, there is not even a sgt-puzz in /usr/bin
[07:44] <zepard> Aeron|mtf, whereis blackboxgames
[07:44] <zepard> Aeron|mtf, try this
[07:44] <raulh> the point is
[07:44] <chuy_max> P041NX, wait, didn't understand it, thanks :)
[07:44] <raulh> its not found
[07:44] <administrator_> hi
[07:44] <raulh> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/nvidia-glx-new_169.12+<IP_ADDRESS>-18.41_i386.deb, Dosn't exist of the server
[07:44] <jamus> administrator_:  just ask man we see u
[07:44] <Gnea> raulh: what is 'it'?
[07:44] <FAJALOU> jamus; would i be ok just using envy-ng
[07:44] <jamus> FAJALOU:  dunno never used it
[07:44] <Aeron|mtf> zepard, "whereis blackboxgames" -> "blackboxgames:"
[07:44] <FAJALOU> huh
[07:44] <Gnea> raulh: you'll need to  sudo apt-get update  and try again
[07:44] <P041NX> chuy_max: did it work?
[07:44] <zepard> Aeron|mtf, whereis blackboxgame
[07:45] <raulh> the server dosn't have the file
[07:45] <FAJALOU> jamus; it never asked for a restart either...
[07:45] <zepard> Aeron|mtf, without the "s"
[07:45] <raulh> i can't download something that dosn't exist
[07:45] <chuy_max> P041NX, yes, it worked, thanks :D
[07:45] <Aeron|mtf> zepard, -> "blackboxgame: /usr/games/blackboxgame /usr/share/man/man6/blackboxgame.6.gz
[07:45] <Aeron|mtf> "
[07:45] <Gnea> raulh: which is why you need to update.
[07:45] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: that´s computers lol
[07:45] <zepard> Aeron|mtf, so go to /usr/games
[07:45] <FAJALOU> lol i'll restart it; see if it makes a dif.
[07:46] <raulh> ok thank's ill give it a  try Gnea.
[07:46] <Aeron|mtf> zepard, in /usr/games there is no entry for sgt-puzz
[07:46] <brandonmpace> vgambit: are you still there?
[07:46] <jamus> listen ppl i have to tell u all something- u will eventually mess up ur machine a-- hopefully u will get smarter but it is guaranteed
[07:46] <raulh> jamus, thats so true.
[07:46] <FAJALOU> jamus lol i know i have more than once ;)
[07:46] <brandonmpace> lol jamus is right. learn
[07:47] <node357> I already did that part with freebsd !
[07:47] <zepard> Aeron|mtf, theres is no entry for sgt-puz
[07:47] <node357> the messing up that is
[07:47] <ubuntunub> when i try to delete a locked file or directory using "sudo -rm" or "sudo -rm -r", this happens: http://pastebin.com/m3430afea
[07:47] <brandonmpace> I´ve been doing this for four years and I´ve had some bad messups
[07:47] <Aeron|mtf> zepard, there is not
[07:47] <ubuntunub> someone plz help
[07:47] <zepard> Aeron|mtf, sgt-puzz is a set puzzle games
[07:47] <FAJALOU> lol i've gotten everything from kernel panics to screen not working lol
[07:47] <Impaler> anyone familiar with SDL who can help diagnose a segfault?
[07:47] <zepard> like blackboxgame, galaxies...
[07:47] <Aeron|mtf> zepard, i know what sgt-puzz is i installed the package but am not able to run it
[07:47] <P041NX> who's got trouble listing usb divices with lsusb?
[07:48] <zepard> Aeron|mtf, well explain me more then what is sgt-puzz
[07:48] <vgambit> brandonmpace restarting now
[07:48] <Aeron|mtf> zepard, thanks for your help, i'll be back later to ask again
[07:49] <raulh> how do i close my hardware drivers sceren
[07:49] <raulh> its froze :$
[07:49] <brandonmpace> ubuntunub: are you typing    sudo rmdir DIRNAME
[07:49] <brandonmpace> vgambit: :)
[07:49] <ubuntunub> no
[07:49] <ubuntunub> im already in the right dir
[07:49] <FAJALOU> how can i check to see if the ati drivers have been implemented?
[07:49] <P041NX> got a error where "susb"  isself shows nothing, but lsusb -t shows the tree? really, what is this?
[07:49] <chokri> hello
[07:49] <ubuntunub> i did the exact same thing before and it was working fine
[07:49] <vgambit> brandonmpace grub loaded, and let me boot into windows, and then linux
[07:49] <brandonmpace> ubuntunub: you need to get out of the dir
[07:50] <ubuntunub> wtf
[07:50] <vgambit> looks like a total success now, sans 30 precious gigabytes :*
[07:50] <ubuntunub> ok
[07:50] <vgambit> :(
[07:50] <brandonmpace> ubuntunub: type cd /                     and
[07:50] <P041NX> kill -s 15 ${PID of hardware monitor}
[07:50] <brandonmpace> ubuntunub: then type the full path
[07:50] <ubuntunub> i dunno how to
[07:50] <ubuntunub> its in my username folder
[07:50] <brandonmpace> vgambit: lol It works though :) you´re welcome
[07:51] <ubuntunub> home folder
[07:51] <brandonmpace> /home/USERNAME/
[07:51] <ubuntunub> whast the path for home folder
[07:51] <vgambit> 1.6 GHz single core processor, 512 mb ram, and it boots faster than my quad core vista gaming rig
[07:51] <vgambit> brilliant, man, thanks
[07:51] <BioTeck> hello every1
[07:51] <brandonmpace> vgambit: Just keep an eye out for a bios update that will make it see the whole disk
[07:52] <Ontolog> damnit why is Firefox SO UNSTABLE?
[07:52] <P041NX> is there anyone who is good with usb stuff? I need help on exporting usbfs...
[07:52] <FAJALOU> !language | Ontolog
[07:52] <ubuntunub> still doenst work
[07:52] <ubuntunub> same error
[07:52] <brandonmpace> ubuntunub: hmm
[07:52] <Ontolog> damnit?
[07:52] <Ontolog> damnit is not a swear
[07:52] <ubuntunub> i genuinely hate linux
[07:52] <vgambit> brandonmpace that's gonna be difficult considering gateway doesn't even acknowledge the motherboard's existence
[07:52] <ubuntunub> as of now
[07:52] <ubuntunub> i mean why in the hell are these files locked anyway
[07:52] <brandonmpace> vgambit: lol I know
[07:53] <ubuntunub> fuck.
[07:53] <brandonmpace> vgambit: but it does work :)
[07:53] <BioTeck> does anyone here have install ubuntu on a ibook g3?
[07:53] <vgambit> yep
[07:53] <brandonmpace> vgambit: it´s linux :)
[07:53] <FAJALOU> !language | ubuntub
[07:53] <xiaopi> Hello, got question with Apache and SVN folders. I did an svn checkout in ~user/public_html/test , but if i browse ~user/public_html, i don't see the test folder
[07:53] <Ontolog> Does anyone else have constant crashing of Firefox?
[07:53] <CentHOGG> ot
[07:53] <vgambit> indeed
[07:53] <CentHOGG> it's after 1am
[07:53] <xiaopi> Is apache hiding some type of folders?
[07:53] <vgambit> I would use linux on all my computers if I didn't like gaming and intellisense
[07:53] <ubuntunub> linux sucks
[07:53] <brandonmpace> ubuntunub: can you please pastebin the result of it from that last command. from /
[07:53] <CentHOGG> vgambit: yeh
[07:54] <Flannel> ubottu: please watch your language.
[07:54] <ubuntunub> its only useful for some things imho
[07:54] <P041NX> Ontolog: what version of firefox/ubuntu are u using?
[07:54] <Flannel> xiaopi: Which kind do you think?
[07:54] <BioTeck> my ibook doesnt have a cdrom.. so any other way i could install ubuntu here?
[07:54] <ubuntunub> http://pastebin.com/m3430afea
[07:54] <xiaopi> an svn one
[07:54] <FAJALOU> !install > BioTeck
[07:54] <brandonmpace> Ontolog: are you watching flash videos?
[07:54] <xan1th> !install
[07:54] <Flannel> xiaopi: Is it readable by the www-data user?
[07:55] <xiaopi> just did a checkout in subfolder with the same user
[07:55] <Ontolog> it's not even Flash
[07:55] <ubuntunub> i think my Ubuntu install is just going through PMS, since 5 minutes ago this was working fine
[07:55] <ubuntunub> its the only explanation
[07:55] <xiaopi> yeah it is
[07:55] <brandonmpace> Ontolog: well no then... mine only crashes on massive amounts of flash
[07:55] <Flannel> ubottu: No, you're doing the wrong command.  What command are you trying?
[07:55] <xiaopi> I just get a: The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
[07:55] <BioTeck> install?? but how?
[07:56] <kevin__> so Adobe Flash is proprietary software and I understand that Ubuntu cannot supply this, but is there an open-source equivalent out there?
[07:56] <xiaopi> But everything else works fin
[07:56] <Flannel> kevin__: You can use adobe flash.  but there is also gnash.
[07:56] <Flannel> !flash | kevin__
[07:56] <brandonmpace> ubuntunub: can you pastebin the full thing, including the command
[07:56] <kevin__> ok, thanks
[07:56] <ubuntunub> sudo -rm -r /home/USERNAME/rtl8187_linux_26.1010.0622.2006
[07:56] <Ontolog> err yes
[07:56] <ubuntunub> thats it dude, not much to it
[07:56] <Ontolog> this site actually has some flash
[07:56] <Ontolog> but i can watch youtube.com
[07:56] <Ontolog> no problem
[07:56] <brandonmpace> kevin__: you can install flash using add/remove
[07:57] <Flannel> ubottu: Alright.  Your issue is the - infront of "rm"  not sudo -rm, but sudo rm.
[07:57] <ubuntunub> i also tried sudo -rm /home/USERNAME/rtl8187_linux_26.1010.0622.2006
[07:57] <bhindi> installing xxxx.c file
[07:57] <Ontolog> i'm just really disgusted by the recent increase in unstability
[07:57] <vgambit> hooray, a new problem! I can't mount the windows partition on my newly installed ubuntu
[07:57] <Flannel> ubuntunub: Alright.  Your issue is the - infront of "rm"  not sudo -rm, but sudo rm.
[07:57] <vgambit> oh, wait, nevermind
[07:57] <xiaopi> just force the ntfs
[07:57] <bhindi> installing xxxx.c file any 1 know
[07:57] <brandonmpace> ubuntunub: try it without the -r
[07:57] <ubuntunub> i did
[07:58] <ubuntunub> http://pastebin.com/m4c8ac8df
[07:58] <ubuntunub> i rebooted too and tried it again
[07:58] <ubuntunub> in and out of directory, different command combos, etc
[07:58] <Flannel> ubuntunub: no.  You're not listening.
[07:58] <Ontolog> try this url; http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=games&platform=1028&mode=all&sort=views&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc&official=all+%BB&page=2
[07:58] <brandonmpace> ubuntunub: it´s not sudo -rm                     it´s sudo rm
[07:58] <Flannel> ubuntunub: "sudo rm" instead of "sudo -rm"
[07:58] <vgambit> looks like this is the exact problem a friend of mine had a few weeks ago; if you do an unclean/unsafe shutdown of windows, you won't be able to mount the windows partition in linux until you boot windows normally and shutdown properly
[07:58] <Flannel> vgambit: or force it, yes.
[07:58] <parrott> hello, can some one please help me, my ubuntu install is borked please look at my forum thread for info http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=924819
[07:58] <brandonmpace> vgambit: yes
[07:59] <vgambit> Flannel force what now?
[07:59] <Flannel> vgambit: the mount (its not always safe)
[07:59] <ubuntunub> well fuck, im an idiot
[07:59] <bhindi> installing xxxx.c file any 1 know
[07:59] <ubuntunub> it was rm
[07:59] <Flannel> ubuntunub: Please still watch your language.
[07:59] <brandonmpace> !language
[07:59] <CentHOGG> it's after 1am
[07:59] <CentHOGG> pc police
[08:00] <vgambit> well, the only thing I did was turn it off by holding down the power button. I don't see where the risk would be. either way, I'd rather not jump through any of the usual linux hoops if I can avoid doing so :)
[08:00] <P041NX> Ontolog:Mozilla/5.0 (U; en-US) Gecko/20060101 Firefox/2.0 is working file with your supplied url
[08:00] <P041NX> fine
[08:00] <Flannel> vgambit: Yeah, boot windows and then shutdown properly and you'll be fine.
[08:00] <DEdwards> hey, quickie here, i forgot for some reason how to chown, say i need to change to owner of dir "foo" so that user "bar" owns it
[08:00] <Romster> CentHOGG> it's after 1am <- irc has many time zones...
[08:01] <P041NX> chown gourp:user file
[08:01] <xan1th> DEdwards: man chown -- chown -R [user] [dir]
[08:01] <brandonmpace> vgambit: I remember when ntfs support first came out lol.   ntfs-3g       those were some hoops if you messed up, trust me ;)
[08:01] <ompaul> !language | ubuntunub
[08:01] <ompaul> CentHOGG, it is 8am where I sit
[08:01] <Flannel> DEdwards: without the -R
[08:01] <xan1th> without the -R for a directory?
[08:01] <Romster> brandonmpace, yeah ntfs could easily of messed the partiton up and the MFT zone.
[08:02] <vgambit> brandonmpace, yeah, ubuntu/linux has certainly come a long way in the 2 years or so that I've left it
[08:02] <CentHOGG> anybody here seen the Prisoner TV Show?
[08:02] <Flannel> xan1th: no, -R is recursive
[08:02] <Romster> ntfs-3g is working a lot better
[08:02] <DEdwards> xan1th, Flannerl, thanks, im embarrassed
[08:02] <Flannel> CentHOGG: please take non-support topics to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:02] <CentHOGG> ha
[08:02] <xan1th> I know it's recursive, but I've always used it in changing directories
[08:02] <Flannel> DEdwards: no need to be embarassed
[08:02] <brandonmpace> vgambit: I love seeing the progress :)
[08:02] <b-relaxed> when I do a partial upgrade I get "error authenticating some packags"  {initscripts , libamrnb3 , sysvinit-utils , mplayer , openoffice.org-base-core} is this normal ?
[08:03] <kevin__> how can I safely remove my External Harddrive from my computer? I tried "unmount volume" but the drive is still active.
[08:03] <brandonmpace> b-relaxed: I have never had luck with partial upgrades and prefer to do a clean install due to problems like this
[08:03] <BioTeck> so.. can anyone plz gide me on how to install over a windows or linux network on a ibook?
[08:03] <DEdwards> b-relaxed, the pakgs install fine?
[08:03] <vgambit> brandonmpace, I stand no chance of even attempting it with 8 MB of vram, but compiz/beryl/whatever it is now called is now a part of ubuntu, right?
[08:03] <parrott> is anyone able to help me with my fsck issue -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=924819 for more info
[08:03] <DEdwards> i prefer clean install as well
[08:04] <brandonmpace> vgambit: I believe so, I know it is in mandriva, etc
[08:04] <ompaul> happy software freedom day ----
[08:04] <BioTeck> or @least like.. let me know just what i need to do so i can do it myself?
[08:04] <P041NX> kevin__: umount ${disk} , then hdparm One of "-S -Y -y -Z" with "-C"
[08:04] <DEdwards> ompaul, thats everyday i use linux :)
[08:04] <ompaul> ---- note I am about to unban some users this may cause you some scrolling please wait a few seconds ----
[08:04] <CentHOGG> ompaul: while it lasts
[08:04] <brandonmpace> vgambit: you can install ccsm (compizconfig settings manager) on a computer that runs compiz to do advanced config
[08:05] <b-relaxed> yeah , everything is working fine. but when it prompts the update it always give this error, i tried autoclean and autoremove
[08:05] <P041NX> kevin__: you can force disk to spin down.
[08:05] <Romster> omg
[08:05] <kevin__> P041NX, -- in english that means....what?
[08:05] <ompaul> Finished!
[08:05] <parrott> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=924819 anyone >
[08:05] <kevin__> P041NX, -- dude..don't answer my questions before i ask..jeeze man.
[08:05] <vgambit> brandonmpace ah, cool. I used to run compiz back around the time when that initial demo video first got popular on the net. I might try dual booting XP and ubuntu on my more powerful dell laptop
[08:05] <zamanfou> fede2,
[08:05] <P041NX> kevin__: well, after a umount to unmount the filesystem, the disk is still spinning, su by using the hdparm command, you can stom the motor of the hdd
[08:06] <Logan_2> kevin__: what is your native language?
[08:06] <brandonmpace> vgambit: lol I remember beryl, but never used it, I just used compiz, and now compiz-fusion which is compiz and beryl
[08:06] <kevin__> P041NX, i'll give that a try
[08:06] <kevin__> Logan_2, english, but not ubuntu-english
[08:06] <BioTeck> can anyone read me?
[08:06] <Flannel> BioTeck: yes
[08:06] <vgambit> brandonmpace, I mean *before* beryl was called beryl.
[08:06] <DEdwards> gotcha BioTeck
[08:06] <BioTeck> cool ty
[08:07] <P041NX> kevin__:man hdparm and everything you need is in there.
[08:07] <brandonmpace> vgambit: lol
[08:07] <kevin__> P041NX, way ahead of you, thanks
[08:07] <vgambit> brandonmpace, it was someone's personal offshoot of compiz, and it had that person's handle in the name, but I forgot it
[08:07] <BioTeck> i read some tutorials.. but is just not working how it should so.. am kind of confuse and about to give up
[08:08] <brandonmpace> vgambit: yea I was just happy to be using linux lol.
[08:08] <parrott> is there any way i can recover my filesystem from the recovery shell other than fsck
[08:08] <parrott> it keeps on erroring
[08:09] <brandonmpace> parrott: do you know how you messed it up?
[08:09] <Logan_2> how do i open new server window in chatzilla?
[08:09] <brutus> suspend on my gutsy just locks the screen...whats the problem?
[08:09] <brandonmpace> brutus: are you on a laptop?
[08:09] <FAJALOU> has anyone used envy-ng before?  i  am thinking it is the only way right now to get effects to work, and to get ati drivers cleanly installed.
[08:09] <parrott> no idea, the machine was running over night, i woke up looked at the machine and it had all file system errors in the swap partition
[08:09] <cbx33> anyone good at routing here?
[08:09] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: try it lol
[08:09] <Logan_2> how do i open new server window in chatzilla?
[08:09] <parrott> now i cannot boot into x at all
[08:09] <parrott> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=924819 for more info
[08:09] <vgambit> brandonmpace, yeah
[08:09] <FAJALOU> brandonmpace:  lol can always uninstall right ;)
[08:10] <parrott> no one has responded to my thread :/
[08:10] <cbx33> Hi all, does ip_forward change the source ip of a packet being routed to a different subnet?
[08:10] <brutus> brandonmpace, yeah
[08:10] <Logan_2> how do i open new server window in chatzilla?
[08:10] <brutus> brandonmpace, its an hp laptop
[08:10] <brandonmpace> brutus:  this is a common problem with ubuntu on laptops, as well as many other linux distros. I´m sure this will be corrected asap
[08:11] <BioTeck> so...
[08:11] <kevin__> P041NX, how do i deduce my external device name?
[08:11] <chalcedony> how can i copy Xchat to make a 2nd copy?
[08:11] <kevin__> P041NX, as I understand it, the cmd is hdparm -Y devicename
[08:11] <Flannel> parrott: /lastlog -clear
[08:11] <icedtea`> chalcedony: what do you mean?
[08:11] <brutus> brandonmpace, ok, but what about commands like s2disk and s2ram? They dont seem to work too...
[08:11] <P041NX> kevin__::if you have named your partition (if it's exte) then you can get the info from mount
[08:11] <parrott> just type that into the recovery console?
[08:11] <Flannel> parrott: sorry.  If you do this at the recovery shell: `touch /forcefsck` and then reboot, you'll fsck before mounting.
[08:12] <Flannel> parrott: no, ignore that first one.
[08:12] <chalcedony> icedtea: i want to make an xchat2a or so
[08:12] <parrott> cool ill give it a go
[08:12] <P041NX> kevin__:yep, the -Y or the -y option will force hdd to spin down
[08:12] <P041NX> so you need the hdd name
[08:12] <icedtea`> chalcedony: what are you trying to accomplish?
[08:13] <brandonmpace> brutus: I have tried this on about 10 different laptops of different brands and no luck.  go check out tux on ice if you need to suspend  http://www.tuxonice.net/
[08:13] <parrott> i cannot preform touch
[08:13] <parrott> the file system is mounted read only
[08:13] <Logan_2> read only
[08:13] <Logan_2> sudo
[08:13] <brandonmpace> parrott: is your swap messed up or your ext3?
[08:13] <chalcedony> icedtea: on a network i go to i need xchat to do 2 completely different things so i need two different xchats.
[08:13] <Logan_2> sudo fies read only
[08:13] <P041NX> kevin__:/proc/mounts or /proc/partitions should give you the data
[08:14] <badfish_2> don't make me use bnce
[08:14] <badfish_2> please
[08:14] <parrott> it mentioned swap
[08:14] <brutus> brandonmpace, ok, thanks a lot, I'll have a look
[08:14] <parrott> first off
[08:14] <parrott> but now ext3 by the looks of it
[08:14] <badfish_2> swap
[08:14] <parrott> i can browse around directories
[08:14] <parrott> cat files ect
[08:14] <wx9j_> the desktop icons are gone, and I cannot access anything in my home folder, it is locked up ???
[08:14] <parrott> so it cant be that broken :P
[08:14] <badfish_2> you can swap between vista and ubuntu via
[08:14] <DEdwards> parrott, replied
[08:14] <Flannel> parrott: we really need to know what the errors were.
[08:14] <parrott> sweet
[08:14] <ttt--> hi, how do i add something permanently to my PATH?
[08:14] <badfish_2> you gotta make a partition with vista
[08:14] <BioTeck> so if i put my ubuntu ppc on my ubuntu pc and connect my ibook in the network.. i should be able to see the cdrom and install it from there?
[08:15] <badfish_2> ubuntu can read vista partitions
[08:15] <ttt--> ?help PATH
[08:15] <brandonmpace> parrott: have you tried just deleting your swap partition and re creating it?
[08:15] <parrott> lol Dedwards
[08:15] <parrott> from the recovery console i remind you
[08:15] <parrott> sudo is not working
[08:15] <DEdwards> parrott, here to help :P
[08:15] <kevin__> I've tried both of those, still can't find it (when I hit <tab> to try and auto-comp the name) - its a standard Western Digital External HD...
[08:15] <DEdwards> lol
[08:15] <brandonmpace> I know use a live cd or the gparted cd
[08:16] <hosk> how do i kill sudo
[08:16] <kevin__> P041NX, I've tried both of those, still can't find it (when I hit <tab> to try and auto-comp the name) - its a standard Western Digital External HD...
[08:16] <hosk> i accidentally ran sudo emacs as a background process
[08:16] <DEdwards> hosk, define 'kill'
[08:16] <brandonmpace> hosk: what do you mean?
[08:16] <P041NX> kevin__: is is a usb attached one?
[08:16] <kevin__> es
[08:16] <kevin__> yes
[08:16] <parrott> command sudo is available /usr/bin/sudo is not included in the PATH environment variable
[08:16] <hosk> now sudo is taking up 100% of my proc and i can't kill it
[08:16] <DEdwards> brandonmpace, nice timing
[08:16] <BioTeck> maybe?
[08:16] <icedtea`> chalcedony: you can't just run it again and open a second window?
[08:16] <DEdwards> hosk, reboot?
[08:17] <parrott> the question is, would the samba service be running at all with my machine in this state, ie backing up over the network
[08:17] <hosk> dammit, i really was hoping to avoid that...
[08:17] <hosk> oh well
[08:17] <kevin__> P041NX, yes, its a USB device.
[08:17] <FAJALOU> brandonmpace: lol i tried to manuall install the drivers through envy-ng; nothing
[08:17] <brandonmpace> parrott: you may have to do a clean install
[08:17] <Flannel> parrott: LiveCD
[08:17] <DEdwards> hosk, what so bad with a reboot
[08:17] <parrott> QQ
[08:17] <BioTeck> yes? no?
[08:17] <parrott> livecd wont boot
[08:17] <parrott> exactly
[08:17] <wx9j_> lost all desktop icons including a second hd,
[08:17] <chalcedony> icedtea: i want to copy a hidden directory ~$ ls .xchat2
[08:17] <chalcedony> bkservlist_.conf  ignore.conf	     popup.conf		  user_match-005-1.pl
[08:17] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: I will look into it. what is the ati graphics chipset again?
[08:17] <hosk> oh nevermind, it finally died
[08:17] <chalcedony> icedtea: etc
[08:17] <icedtea`> another bug in sudo. this is why ubunto should have a root login
[08:17] <hosk> i hate rebooting, i like weeklong uptimes
[08:18] <P041NX> kevin__:  a lsusb will give you the divice name, and from there, the attached place aka sda0, etc,etc.. can be found. normaly, a shell script is used to aboid the mess
[08:18] <icedtea`> *ubuntu
[08:18] <Flannel> icedtea`: Please take non-support discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[08:18] <FAJALOU> it is a 6500 or 7500, i got it to manually install some stuff, so one second, and let's see if this works ;)
[08:18] <DEdwards> hosk, me too, besides the occasional memory leak, my family dell is a 24/7 machine
[08:18] <brandonmpace> parrott: use alternate install?  do a memtest
[08:18] <BioTeck> where do i take the mac-support discussion??
[08:19] <parrott> disk has been tested, memtest has been run (propper memtest) all came up clean
[08:19] <brandonmpace> icedtea: you can log in as root
[08:19] <kevin__> P041NX, Bus 003 Device 002: ID 1058:0702 Western Digital Technologies, Inc.  -- so what would be the correct command -- and I might steal your knowledge in creating a script
[08:19] <Flannel> BioTeck: PPC mac or intel mac?
[08:19] <hosk> sweet, i guess the problem sorted itself out from all the kill commands i was sending it
[08:20] <icedtea`> brandonmpace: without using sudo?
[08:20] <P041NX> kevin__: obtaining the /dev/sdx before umount is the simplest, and the next is from extracting from the dmesg
[08:20] <pan_> is there a way to get rid of network-manager-gnome and still be able to connect to the internet
[08:21] <pan_> through console
[08:21] <FAJALOU> pan_  wicd
[08:21] <FAJALOU> but it's not real good
[08:21] <brandonmpace> icedtea: there is a way to use su           and you can also login as root at the login screen with a simple clicking of a checkbox in system>administration>users groups
[08:21] <zuhr1> my networkmanager can't detect AP, but if i use kismet i can. i'm using madwifi-ng-r2756+ar5007 driver
[08:21] <BioTeck> sorry...ppc
[08:21] <FAJALOU> lol brandonmpace low graphics mode :D
[08:21] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: that´s loads of fun ;)
[08:21] <icedtea`> pan_: there's the ifup/ifdown scripts
[08:21] <kevin__> P041NX, I'm gonna be honest, I don't know what it means to "obtain the /dev/sdx" nor what it would mean to "extract from the dmsg" -- gawd I hate being a ubu-noob
[08:22] <jamus> pan: sudo ppoe config maybe?
[08:22] <Flannel> BioTeck: What do you need help with?
[08:22] <FAJALOU> lol up
[08:22] <parrott> oh wth
[08:22] <P041NX> kevin__: but normaly the usb attached disk is hot pluggable, su if you are really into hub raid like me, a script to keep the usb drive up/down is best.
[08:22] <parrott> live cd
[08:22] <brandonmpace> zuhr1:  what is the exact wireless chipset?
[08:22] <BioTeck> installing ubuntu on a ibook g3 with no cdrom
[08:22] <pan_> say i connected to the internet and i want to disconnect from network through console to connect to another network how would i do that?
[08:22] <zuhr1> atheros
[08:22] <pan_> sudo ifconfig ath0 down?
[08:22] <P041NX> :
[08:22] <parrott> SQUASHFS error failed reading block scrolling up and down the screen after loading the kernal
[08:22] <parrott> :@
[08:22] <brandonmpace> atheros what
[08:22] <icedtea`> pan_: ifdown ath0
[08:23] <BioTeck> all i want to know is where to start so i dont have to bother anyone else.. plz
[08:23] <jamus> pan;
[08:23] <pan_> then in console i just iwconfig ath0 essid "name"
[08:23] <jamus> pan;
[08:23] <kevin__> P041NX, yea, its definately a hot pluggable device. but when the device is running/attached there is a risk of damaging the data/device.
[08:23] <pan_> and ap
[08:23] <pan_> and dhclient ath0?
[08:23] <zuhr1> why i can  know my chipset
[08:23] <P041NX> kevin__: dmesg keeps a log of system, that that includes attached/detached disks. not the best way, but if you've lost the /dev/sda etc,etc, you can look it up
[08:23] <Flannel> !install | BioTeck
[08:23] <Flannel> BioTeck: that page might be able to help.
[08:23] <brandonmpace> kevin__: what is it you´re trying to use? an external hard drive?
[08:23] <icedtea`> pan_: look at setting up ifup/ifdown with different settings
[08:24] <Daft_Punk> i have an issue with amsn, i NEVER see dialogue boxes popup when someone signs in/sends msg, and nor do i hear sounds when someone msg me... :( i checked preferences too
[08:24] <icedtea`> pan_: man interfaces
[08:24] <Flannel> BioTeck: I believe it's got all the pieces (booting from USB/network, etc) you just have to make it work with th  mac.
[08:24] <FAJALOU> haha brandonmpace it doesn't like that :D
[08:24] <pan_> ok
[08:24] <icedtea`> pan_: /etc/network/interfaces
[08:24] <BioTeck> what page Flannel?
[08:24] <pan_> thx icedtea
[08:24] <Flannel> BioTeck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[08:24] <jamus> pan: lets get thing straight u r talking about wlan right?
[08:24] <kevin__> brandonmpace, I'm using a Western Digital External USB HD, and I want to saftely remove the device by stopping it before detaching.
[08:24] <brandonmpace> zuhr1: you need to look up the specs for you laptop
[08:25] <BioTeck> oh.. i followed those tutorials and didnt work
[08:25] <zuhr1> acer aspire 4520
[08:25] <vgambit> my main pc takes 2 minutes to boot from power on to firefox. old crappy laptop does the same in 1:22
[08:25] <Daft_Punk> kevin__, to stop a device open terminal and "sudo umount /media/drivename"
[08:25] <brandonmpace> kevin__: open up nautilus,  places  home or whatever. then in the left side you see the device listed?
[08:25] <pan_> sudo umount the destination of the mount
[08:25] <Winston_1mithVT> kevin__: Unmount it before removing it, right click on the icon and select or unmount DEVICE in a terminal
[08:25] <P041NX> kevin__:so if you have a partition, say ext3, then before umounting the device, you should obtain the /dev/sdx thing from mount, and preform both umount and hdpam from a single script
[08:25] <brandonmpace> kevin__: does it show up on your desktop?
[08:25] <Winston_1mithVT> err
[08:25] <Winston_1mithVT> kevin__: Umount
[08:25] <kevin__> brandonmpace, yes, the device is listed
[08:26] <brandonmpace> kevin__: if it does, right click> unmount
[08:26] <Daft_Punk> lol, 5 ppl helping kevin__  at the same time, he will explooooode
[08:26] <pan_> if u mount like desktop then u sudo umount ~/Desktop
[08:26] <BioTeck> i try getting the files and put them on the system folder as my tutorial says and all i got was a error message and when back to mac os
[08:26] <kevin__> Winston_1mithVT, after unmounting the image, it still RUNS. I can still access it and the disk within still spins => not safe to remove.
[08:26] <P041NX> kevin__: if you want to get the /dev/sdx thing from dmesg, yo have to find the sg with right number os there is a can of worms waiting, and it's not the proper way to do it anyway.
[08:26] <icedtea`> brandonmpace: ok, thanks. is there a way to do this on the console? what files need to edited to allow root on a tty?
[08:26] <kevin__> :: EXPLODING ::
[08:26] <B3z3rk3r> Daft_Punk,  hey.. long time no see :P
[08:26] <steinar> la5lia
[08:26] <Daft_Punk> B3z3rk3r, hi
[08:26] <Winston_1mithVT> Gau and you can't get decent aid? I do admit I don't know hwat country you are in, but I have a friend that is going to college right now and has to pay almost nothing.
[08:27] <jamus> pan: Winston_1mithVT, everyoene pls use nicks in answers so ppl will catch up with q&a
[08:27] <Winston_1mithVT> err sorry wrong chan people
[08:27] <FAJALOU> brandonmpace:  what do you suppose i should do?
[08:27] <wx9j_> lost all desktop icons, with no response on anything in the home folder ???
[08:27] <Daft_Punk> !offtopic | Winston_1mithVT
[08:27] <brandonmpace> icedtea: I am not sure as I have never done tty myself. (never had to)
[08:27] <Daft_Punk> i have an issue with amsn, i NEVER see dialogue boxes popup when someone signs in/sends msg, and nor do i hear sounds when someone msg me... :( i checked preferences too
[08:27] <kevin__> brandonmpace, after unmounting the image, it still RUNS. I can still access it and the disk within still spins => not safe to remove.
[08:27] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: does installing the ati driver make the other resolutions show?
[08:28] <Winston_1mithVT> Daft_Punk: I know I'm already there, just forgot to switch channels
[08:28] <steinar> Alos lost all icons after removing all java in packet manager. reinstall was my solution.
[08:28] <brandonmpace> kevin__: go to the /media folder      and tell me the name of the device
[08:28] <FAJALOU> i don't really need other reses (and no not really)  the res i am at is good.  i don't need more, and compiz still doesn't work on it,,, am going to see about getting some help on #ati
[08:28] <FAJALOU> o wow
[08:28] <FAJALOU> hold on...
[08:28] <Daft_Punk> kevin__, if you unmount the device, the hard drive will still be RUNNING, and if you click on a bookmark or mount it again it will be accessible. If you "sudo umount /media/harddrive" and go to the /media/ folder and you dont see it anymore it is safe to remove the USB of the hard drive, then power it off
[08:28] <jamus> damn .020 kernel upgrade messed my sound card too
[08:28] <FAJALOU> now we are back to like 640*800
[08:29] <Hestv4> Wireless should work out-of-the-box with Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex (as from kernel 2.6.27-1-generic)
[08:29] <Hestv4> it does not on -3
[08:29] <jamus> it is -- a lousy upgrade
[08:29] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: I think you may have to wait until it is properly implemented with your chipset I´m guessing
[08:29] <raulh> hello i just downloaded tremulous, and its an installerx86.run
[08:29] <FAJALOU> i guess, but what happened?  i was at 024*768 and now i'm at really really big
[08:29] <raulh> how do i install the game?
[08:29] <jamus> keep finding stuff not working
[08:30] <icedtea`> raulh: ./installerx86.run
[08:30] <raulh> how :\
[08:30] <brandonmpace> kevin__: Daft_Punk  is correct
[08:30] <FAJALOU> prolly went back to mesa drivers?
[08:30] <Daft_Punk> raulh, open terminal, go to the folder which the .run is contained in and run the command icedtea gave you
[08:30] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: I believe so
[08:30] <vgambit> does anyone have a link to a page for commonly downloaded/restricted packages (codecs, useful programs, etc.)?
[08:31] <zuhr1> okey my adapter is work properly before. but this problem cause after  install rt76 driver
[08:31] <raulh> its on my desktop
[08:31] <BioTeck> alrite then
[08:31] <FAJALOU> so i will reinstall the envy-ng stuff; just so i can get my res back
[08:31] <kevin__> Daft_Punk, brandonmpace, P041NX got it, thanks for the help gents!
[08:31] <Pirate_Hunter> what is the command to force fsck to check hds on boot?
[08:31] <jamus> raulth: copy entire path from browser
[08:31] <P041NX> Daft_Punk: hevin wants to preform hdparm -y after unmounting the disk. it's to spin down the motor safely... normaly i use a script, but kevin has aready unmounted with out knowing what hdd it is
[08:31] <brandonmpace> vgambit: http://www.medibuntu.org/
[08:31] <jamus> raulth: and use console
[08:31] <FAJALOU> Pirate_Hunter:  sudo touch <path to Hdd>/forcefsck
[08:31] <Daft_Punk> raulh, open terminal (applications, accessories, terminal) then go to your desktop which should be "cd /home/username/Desktop/" and then put the command "./installerx86.run"
[08:32] <kevin__> P041NX, the disk stopped finally.. probably from lack of use.
[08:32] <Flannel> !fsck | FAJALOU
[08:32] <vgambit> thanks, brandonmpace
[08:32] <Pirate_Hunter> FAJALOU: i wish for fsck to check all hds on boot not just one
[08:32] <BioTeck> install | ibook
[08:32] <brandonmpace> vgambit: you´re welcome :)
[08:32] <FAJALOU> see flannel's ubottu thread above
[08:32] <zuhr1> atheros ar5bxb63
[08:32] <FAJALOU> !mac | Bioteck
[08:32] <znik> i am using gutsy.when i switch on the wifi , the wifi notifier led on my keyboard does not light up! i have to login in windows and switch on the wifi and then start ubuntu.
[08:32] <FAJALOU> lol nvm
[08:32] <Pirate_Hunter> Flannel, ty
[08:32] <BioTeck> !mac
[08:32] <eetu_> hi every1
[08:33] <zuhr1> airodump-ng can detect any AP
[08:33] <BioTeck> am so lost
[08:33] <icedtea`> eetu_: hello
[08:33] <jamus> u have boot manager app - maybe it will help u
[08:33] <brandonmpace> znik: the wifi light will not light up in linux
[08:33] <Daft_Punk> i have an issue with amsn, i NEVER see dialogue boxes popup when someone signs in/sends msg, and nor do i hear sounds when someone msg me... :( i checked preferences too
[08:33] <zuhr1> but network manager or iwlist can not
[08:33] <FAJALOU> BioTeck:  http://www.google.com/search?hl=la&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS270US271&q=mac+install+ubuntu&btnG=Quaere
[08:33] <brandonmpace> znik: this is very common. just have it already switched on. leave it on
[08:33] <P041NX> kevin__:id suggest writing a simple script that extract /dev/sdx thing from mount, and prefrom both umount and hdparm from a single script. it becomes much easyer.
[08:33] <raulh> ok im at the desktop
[08:33] <BioTeck> ty..brb
[08:33] <jamus> Pirate_Hunter:  u have boot manager app - maybe it will help u
[08:34] <CentHOGG> anybody here make a homemade dvd player?
[08:34] <raulh> bash: installer.x86.run: command not found
[08:34] <Flannel> CentHOGG: Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:34] <brandonmpace> zuhr1: you need to google    madwifi + (your wireless chipset)
[08:34] <jamus> raulh:  u shouldnt be on bash dude
[08:34] <brandonmpace> zuhr1: that will provide the best help i think
[08:34] <Guest8287> Hallo silvi
[08:34] <Daft_Punk> raulh, it is "./installer.x86.run" without quotes
[08:35] <BioTeck> my cdrom is not working.. that is what i been trying to tell ya
[08:35] <zuhr1> this driver is work properly
[08:35] <raulh> ./installer.x86.run: Permission denied
[08:35] <Politics> Is anyone here familiar with a bug in knetworkmanager using ndiswrapper that freezes an attempted connection at configuration?
[08:35] <brandonmpace> jamus: default terminal is /bin/bash
[08:35] <zuhr1> but network manager can not detect ap
[08:35] <Daft_Punk> raulh, do "sudo ./installer.x86.run"
[08:35] <FAJALOU> brandonmpace:  reinstalled the stuff from envy; back to 1024*768 which is good lol
[08:35] <raulh> ./installer.x86.run: command not found
[08:35] <raulh> :|
[08:35] <Daft_Punk> raulh, is that the name of the file?
[08:35] <zuhr1> i can detect AP if using kismet
[08:36] <raulh> yes
[08:36] <Guest8287> Hai man.. any body there
[08:36] <jamus> brandonmpace:  mine is not LOL
[08:36] <brandonmpace> raulh: type sudo a+x /installer.x86.run
[08:36] <brandonmpace> raulh: the do the other command
[08:36] <nck> my ubuntu 8.04 cant connect to wifi network, while other win box can. few weeks ago, i still able to gain access, but not now. any idea?
[08:36] <raulh> nothing
[08:36] <Guest8287> ono wong indonesiane ra yo .. kok barat thok isine..
[08:37] <zuhr1> iono
[08:37] <Flannel> !id | Guest8287
[08:37] <zuhr1> iki wong indonesia
[08:37] <raulh> installer.x86.run = exact name of the file
[08:37] <brandonmpace> raulh: can you provide a link to the page where you got this run file?
[08:37] <raulh> tremulous
[08:37] <raulh> the linux stand alone
[08:37] <brandonmpace> nck: have you installed any updated since it worked?
[08:37] <jamus> nck: did u ''upgrade'' anything?
[08:38] <icedtea`> why is my face so itchy, who the hell gets an itchy face??
[08:38] <jamus> nck: like new kernel or something?
[08:38] <Daft_Punk> icedtea, ppl who dont wash their face?
[08:38] <Daft_Punk> idk
[08:38] <Flannel> icedtea`: Please take it elsewhere.
[08:38] <BioTeck> can i put the cd on a linux box and install it over the network on the mac????
[08:38] <brandonmpace> raulh: go to add/remove and look for tremulous
[08:39] <kevin__> P041NX, I still don't understand what /dev/sdx is (I'm thinking its a location...) much less how to find it and whats more, how to find it via a mount
[08:39] <brandonmpace> raulh: make sure you have the universe/multiverse enabled
[08:39] <geega> Hi.. i downloaded icons..
[08:39] <co_20_^_^> #jakarta
[08:39] <kevin__> P041NX, but i totally agree, a scrpt would be very helpful.
[08:39] <geega> how to replace the icon with new icons. what is the control for this
[08:40] <raulh> it's not there
[08:40] <Daft_Punk> is there a hotline to contact ubuntu support? how much does it cost? what kind of pay support is there for ubuntu?
[08:40] <raulh> :$
[08:40] <jamus> cu around guys
[08:40] <brandonmpace> kevin__: is your main hard disk sda? or hda?
[08:40] <jamus> arivechau
[08:40] <damnnicks> Hey peeps
[08:40] <Flannel> Daft_Punk: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid
[08:40] <Daft_Punk> ty
[08:40] <norbert108> ja
[08:40] <geega> Hi.. i downloaded icons.how to replace the icon with new icons. what is the control for this
[08:40] <brandonmpace> raulh: and you do have the extra software sources enabled?
[08:40] <damnnicks> Will Ubuntu throw me any quirks for using my raid array?
[08:41] <kevin__> brandonmpace, good question...is there an easy way to find out?
[08:41] <vgambit> what is the linux equivalent of ctrl alt del?
[08:41] <geega> do we have any icon manager in ubuntu
[08:41] <raulh> brandon... idk what that is
[08:41] <brandonmpace> kevin__: go to the folder /dev
[08:41] <brandonmpace> kevin__: tell me if there is and hda
[08:41] <zafle> system monitor
[08:41] <brandonmpace> an*
[08:41] <icedtea`> Flannel: seriously, give me a break
[08:41] <BioTeck> i dont know if i should take this as.. no we cant help ya or we dont know how to
[08:41] <zafle> ctrl alt backspace to restart
[08:42] <Daft_Punk> when is the release of intrepid?
[08:42] <zafle> oct 30
[08:42] <Flannel> brandonmpace: its likely sda instead of hda.
[08:42] <vgambit> is there any shortcut for closing unresponsive programs?
[08:42] <damnnicks> kill -9 <process id>
[08:42] <zafle> i just tested alpha 6 and decided to upgrade early
[08:42] <zafle> seems stable
[08:42] <Daft_Punk> what is the difference between ubuntu, edubuntu and kubuntu?
[08:42] <CentHOGG> vgambit: what's   your videocard? pleez
[08:42] <kevin__> brandonmpace, only a .udev/
[08:42] <raulh> can anyone help me download Tremulous? my add/remove dosn't contain it.
[08:42] <brandonmpace> raulh: go to system> administration and look for software sources
[08:43] <vgambit> well, the entire system was unresponsive
[08:43] <brandonmpace> Flannel: I know but it´s probably good to check
[08:43] <vgambit> CentHOGG some intel gma crap
[08:43] <Flannel> Daft_Punk: on what level?  Also, these sorts of questions might be better in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:43] <damnnicks> the restart button?
[08:43] <icedtea`> vgambit: you could also do pkill processname
[08:43] <CentHOGG> vgambit: yeh i'm ati x1900xt
[08:43] <anusrape> damnicks: rap her but toy!
[08:43] <Flannel> Daft_Punk: On a package level, the default packages installed (you can move one to the other and v.v., etc).
[08:43] <Daft_Punk> Flannel, on the level of how xp is different than vista sort of thing
[08:43] <vgambit> icedtea I couldn't open anything
[08:43] <brandonmpace> vgambit:  right click on the panel in an empty spot. and click add to panel,  look for kill or something, it´s there
[08:43] <raulh> and when im here what do i do?
[08:43] <Flannel> Daft_Punk: Other than that, Kubuntu has KDE, Ubuntu has gnome, Edubuntu is an educational add on, on top of whatever you're using.
[08:44] <anusrape> the restart button does it all!
[08:44] <vgambit> I inserted a DVD while totem was open and my system just kinda put on the brakes
[08:44] <icedtea`> vgambit: did you try ctrl+alt+f1 to drop to a tty
[08:44] <anusrape> the restart button is the easy button@
[08:44] <vgambit> no
[08:44] <anusrape> !
[08:44] <Flannel> anusrape: Please change your nick
[08:44] <P041NX> kevin__:the /dev/sdx is the device name, it can be /dev/sda, /dev/sdb... /dev/sdx was for example. I have /dev/sda mounted to /media/DATA, so when i want to unmount /media/DATA, i lookup mount to find the /dev/xxx thing, and use that to umount and hdparm -y ... hope that helps
[08:44] <anusrape> find the commaneds
[08:44] <Daft_Punk> Flannel, so are the main differences just visual and default repos? because you can install KDE packages on ubuntu etc... and im guessing the edubuntu has more resources for education?
[08:44] <damnnicks> hehe
[08:44] <vgambit> it seems to be fine now, but I would like to know for the future
[08:44] <brandonmpace> vgambit: ctrl alt backspace
[08:44] <anusrape> vgambit: yes
[08:44] <anusrape> vgambit: there is no futures
[08:44] <Flannel> Daft_Punk: the repositories are the same.  The default packages installed are different.
[08:45] <vgambit> brandonmpace is there a way to simply close the offending programs?
[08:45] <icedtea`> vgambit: thats a good last resort if the gui stops responding
[08:45] <anusrape> vgambit: make peace or die trying
[08:45] <brandonmpace> vgambit:  yes
[08:45] <HappyHater> xkill
[08:45] <vgambit> I mean when the entire system is unresponsive
[08:45] <Daft_Punk> Flannel, so for someone that doesnt know a lot about linux in general, what should you suggest to start with between ubuntu/kubuntu
[08:45] <Flannel> Daft_Punk: Edubuntu is an add on, and yes, it contains educational software (of course, its available for regular installs too, you don't have to use Edubuntu to install the peices)
[08:45] <brandonmpace> vgambit:  go to system>administration> system monitor
[08:45] <damnnicks> Srsly tho, will my raid array work in ubuntu without any haggling? I had to slip drivers to xp, but vista used it spot on wiht no drivers
[08:45] <anusrape> vgambit: i know not what has happened until now -bafdish
[08:45] <vgambit> everything was lagging quite a bit and I couldn't really do anything
[08:45] <Flannel> Daft_Punk: Ubuntu is a good way of starting
[08:45] <damnnicks> It's the intel ich9r
[08:45] <raulh> i still can't download tremulous from add/remove
[08:46] <Daft_Punk> Flannel, ok thx...
[08:46] <brandonmpace> vgambit: if you go to the processes tab and see the proccess taking all your cpu. then kill it
[08:46] <brandonmpace> vgambit: right click
[08:46] <zafle> sudo apt-get tremulous?
[08:46] <P041NX> kevin__: cat /proc
[08:46] <zafle> trying hitting tab after typing that
[08:46] <brandonmpace> raulh: go to http://www.medibuntu.org/
[08:46] <kevin__> P041NX, yea, that clears it up -- i always thought that referred to only the main HD on which my O.S. runs. I didn't know my hot-pluggable removable HD fell into that category.
[08:46] <zafle> google for a repo for tremulous
[08:46] <P041NX> kevin__: cat /proc/mounts |awk '{if( $2 == "/media/DATA"){print $1}}' this gets the device name you need to preform the umount and hdparm
[08:47] <brandonmpace> raulh: and see if they have it in their repo
[08:47] <ggeecko> anyone here use owa with evolution-exchange
[08:47] <CORE-X> Guys, what 2 do, if my ubuntu recognizes my external hdd usb drive, but gives error when i try to open it?
[08:47] <Daft_Punk> raulh, open terminal and do "sudo apt-get install tremulous"
[08:47] <icedtea`> CORE-X: whats the error?
[08:47] <znik> brandonmpace if i leave it switched on will it detect wifi?? but when i do conneect to a network the led becomes stable!
[08:47] <CORE-X> w8
[08:47] <raulh> thank you draft
[08:48] <brandonmpace> znik: the led works in linux?
[08:48] <Guest3790> wah boso inggrise ngewes... podo kursus neng endi yo...
[08:48] <BioTeck> is this the official ubuntu support channel?
[08:48] <zafle> http://tremulous.net/files/ try just downloading it
[08:48] <sfer3> !offtopic | anusrape
[08:48] <raulh> (12:48:10 AM) zafle: http://tremulous.net/files/ try just downloading it
[08:48] <Ohkie> hi i got a problem that i might be better off asking somewhere else buti  thought id ask quickly here first.... im trying to configure this theme for gnome ( http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Shiki-Colors?content=86717 ) , but while the main menu along the top turns black, the menus that drop down are still grey..... and there seems to be other irregularities ..... anyone got a idea what might cause that?
[08:48] <raulh> i did
[08:48] <raulh> its a .run file
[08:48] <kevin__> P041NX, I found this in that listing: /dev/sdb1 /media/WD\040Passport fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other 0 0
[08:48] <P041NX> kevin__: something like HD_TO_REMOVE=`cat /proc/mounts |awk '{if( $2 == "/media/DATA"){print $1}}'`; umount ${HD_TO_REMOVE} ; hdparm -y ${HD_TO_REMOVE} should do it in once
[08:48] <raulh> i couldn't open it :(
[08:48] <sfer3> Guh, oops, IRC client was scrolled up....
[08:48] <znik> brandonmpace lets talk on IM
[08:49] <Guest3790> iki neng jowo opo neng enggris???.... hallo ono wong jowone ra yo... aku kesepian nih...
[08:49] <Flannel> !id | Guest3790
[08:49] <CORE-X> well my ubuntu is in my language, so it would sond like - cannot add source
[08:49] <FAJALOU> brandonmpace:  i ended up purging envyng, fell back ont the original, which works.
[08:49] <P041NX> kevin__: and change the /media/DATA part to where you always mount the partition to
[08:49] <FAJALOU> wifi is still acting up a little though ....
[08:49] <brandonmpace> znik: k which one
[08:49] <BioTeck> so now my qstion to you bot is.. does Ubuntu support mac with no cdrom?
[08:49] <brandonmpace> FAJALOU: well at least it works :)
[08:49] <Daft_Punk> raulh, did that work for the game install?
[08:49] <Ohkie> anyone? :)
[08:49] <raulh> downloading right now
[08:50] <raulh> what are the chances of my treo bein detected by linux :O?
[08:50] <geodome> vgambit - it is the same
[08:50] <FAJALOU> brandonmpace:  ya i am on the computer... i guess i'll just spruce it up w/ emerald, and minimal compiz w/e lol.  but wifi is having difficulty connecting to my personal network; it's connecting to a different one -.-
[08:50] <Daft_Punk> tremulous is 100mb so it might take a while to install :o
[08:50] <brandonmpace> raulh: actually palms can be supported
[08:50] <raulh> takes me like 4mins :$
[08:50] <raulh> ok thanks brandon
[08:50] <brandonmpace> raulh: add/remove and in the search type palm
[08:51] <wx9j_> how do I get my desktop icons back ????
[08:51] <brandonmpace> i think
[08:51] <raulh> tyvm
[08:51] <P041NX> kevin__: if /media/WD\040Passport is the path you always mat your external hdd, then yes, /dev/sdb1 it what you use. remenber, the /dev/sdxx part changes by the order you plug in the usb device, so always obtain it from mount
[08:51] <brandonmpace> raulh: yw
[08:51] <icedtea`> wx9j_: open up a terminal and type nautilus
[08:51] <CORE-X> its cannot mount volume error :(
[08:51] <Yekyaa[Ubuntu]> ok, woooo, playing with compiz
[08:51] <Guest3790> iki neng indonesia opo neng enggrish.. kok podo ngoceh bhs inggris kebeh..
[08:52] <Daft_Punk> question: as me being a support technician for hardware and windows based operating systems, I had the sense to install linux to learn more about it... my question is, why is it so addictive? I haven't slept in days...
[08:52] <brandonmpace> Yekyaa[Ubuntu]: always fun ;)
[08:52] <CentHOGG> fuck
[08:52] <Yekyaa[Ubuntu]> i just spent the last 2 hours and i'm still not fully satisfied but i'm thoroughly impressed
[08:52] <znik> brandonmpace on this irc itself !
[08:52] <Yekyaa[Ubuntu]> forget vista and aero man
[08:52] <kevin__> P041NX, sdb1 refers to the mounting point?
[08:52] <Daft_Punk> !wtf | CentHOGG
[08:52] <Yekyaa[Ubuntu]> i've got about every plugin running that wouldn't give me a headache and there's still more left :)
[08:52] <brandonmpace> Daft_Punk: I´ve been doing this for four years and still don´t know lol
[08:52] <CentHOGG> engrish?
[08:52] <wx9j_> icedtea, it said cannot be used now due to unexpcted error
[08:52] <Yekyaa[Ubuntu]> i need that Dodge plugin though lol
[08:53] <P041NX> kevin__:sdb1 can be read as scsi disk b on partition 1, and yes, that gets mounted to a path
[08:53] <sullyva86> Anybody know how to turn two ext3 partitions into one?
[08:53] <P041NX> kevin__:a usb disk normaly get emulated as a scsi disk
[08:53] <Flannel> sullyva86: LVM
[08:53] <raulh> oh haha brandon
[08:53] <zafle> gparted
[08:53] <Guest3790> malangnya nasibku.. aku tersesat..
[08:53] <raulh> 8.0.4 already has gnome pilot (palm) program
[08:53] <Flannel> Guest3790: /join #ubuntu-id
[08:53] <sullyva86> zafle: I tried that it just allows me to shrink them not combine.
[08:54] <kevin__> P041NX, are you a hardware guru? you seem to know so much!!!
[08:54] <P041NX> kevin__: on linux, you can map a partition by the name it's given, by using the -U option on mount
[08:54] <sullyva86> Flannel: What's LVM?
[08:54] <P041NX> kevin__:just a user.
[08:54] <Flannel> sullyva86: It gives you te abilities to abstract away your disks.
[08:54] <case^> whats the command to view mounted drives
[08:54] <case^> ?
[08:55] <icedtea`> Guest3790: Ohayoo gozaimasu!
[08:55] <zafle> try moving all the data to one partition then resize the other one down till you get it all over to one the  delete the second partition
[08:55] <icedtea`> maybe he'll understand japanese better :D
[08:55] <sullyva86> flannel:wow sounds cool from this post i just read but does that mean i have to reformat them as lvm or something?
[08:55] <Akuma34> hello, I'm trying to connect to my own personal protected wifi with ubuntu, however it does not want to get connected
[08:56] <P041NX> kevin__: for what you want to accomplish, you may want to write a script. 1 to map a external drive to the same path every time you reboot. This can be done by ext2label to give the partition a name.
[08:56] <Akuma34> I've tried it with unprotected networks and it works fine
[08:56] <Flannel> sullyva86: Unfortunately, yeah.  If youre looking to do it now, can I suggest moving /home to the second drive, and keeping the other one for your system
[08:56] <Akuma34> I'm using wicd btw
[08:57] <P041NX> kevin__:once the partition has a name, you can look it up from the name, and won't have to go into the can of worms situation you were into.
[08:57] <zafle> "If the partitions are contiguous, just back them up, delete all three
[08:57] <zafle> partitions, create a new partition using all the space, create top-level
[08:57] <zafle> directories as needed, and then restore from the backup tape." http://www.usenet-forums.com/archive/index.php/t-74539.html
[08:57] <FloodBot2> zafle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:58] <jin_> what is the package name called to fix the sound in flash?
[08:58] <sullyva86> Flannel: moving it to the 2nd partition why? Then won't i have to change the path in all my apps?
[08:58] <case^> flash util something
[08:59] <Flannel> sullyva86: Nope.  Partitions are completely abstracted away, so you wont even know the difference (as far as usage is concerned)
[08:59] <Ohkie> can anyone tell me how to check if the "murrine" gdk engine is installed/running?
[08:59] <The-Compiler> !who | case^
[08:59] <P041NX> mount -L ${name-fo-partition} /path/to/mounit-it will allow you to mount the partiotn
[08:59] <kevin__> P041NX, okay, I've documented all your advice, now I need to go over it and learn how to apply it. thanks for your help.
[08:59] <Flannel> !home | sullyva86
[08:59] <P041NX> kevin__: no problem.
[08:59] <case^> jin: just double checking package name
[09:00] <P041NX> kevin__: Need any other info?
[09:00] <Flannel> sullyva86: That page walks ou through it, but assumes you're moving to a separate partition (on the same drive) instead of a partition on another drive.
[09:00] <sullyva86> Flannel: So since nothing is on the 2nd partiton i just reformat that partition as lvm?
[09:00] <sullyva86> Flannel: It is the same drive
[09:00] <Flannel> sullyva86: Nah, LVM will only work if both are lvm-ized
[09:00] <Flannel> sullyva86: ah.  !  You can just remove the second partition and expand your current partition
[09:00] <zafle> yes
[09:00] <sullyva86> Flannel: So I'm f'ed then I should just mount it?
[09:01] <kevin__> P041NX, yea...what you're telling me is pretty much greek to me, but perhaps when I'm a better linux/unix/ubuntu user, it will all be a piece of cake. No that abuot covers my problem. (and if all else fails I can always turn my cpu off...then unplug the device hehe).
[09:01] <zafle> you cant resize a mounted partition
[09:01] <Flannel> sullyva86: What?  no.  Just... boot a liveCD and expand your linux partition.
[09:01] <sullyva86> Flannel: I tried to do that before in gparted. I had a bunch of freespace from shrinking my vista partition but couldn't figure it out lol
[09:01] <icedtea`> anybody here have experience with samba and AD with sites configured?
[09:01] <zafle> Flannel: i'd use a livecd
[09:01] <Flannel> sullyva86: Feel free to ask the channel for help when you need it.  But that would be your best course of action.
[09:02] <Flannel> zafle: That's what I said.
[09:02] <sullyva86> Flannel: It would only allow me to create a new one or shrink my current ubuntu partition.
[09:02] <case^> jin: libflashsupport
[09:02] <zafle> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[09:02] <Flannel> sullyva86: you first have to delete the other one.  Then expand
[09:02] <P041NX> kevin__:yea, true. I had to learn this stuff because I was building a large file server, and wanted to turn off my external usb disk when i'm not using the fileserver.
[09:02] <zafle> Flannel: you could also just backup your drive and start fresh with 8.10 :)
[09:03] <ozkelligirl> what drogram can i use to play "AVI " movies on ubuntu?
[09:03] <zafle> totem
[09:03] <Flannel> zafle: Except that wouldn't be helpful.  Please be helpful in this channel.
[09:03] <wariskampar> when i click Visualisation in Rhythmbox, my Hardy Heron freeze beyond repair
[09:03] <_LiNuX_> hi to all
[09:03] <wariskampar> can anyone help me sorting out this problem
[09:03] <sullyva86> Flannel: Is there some other button i pick for expand. Cuz it was just freespace and wouldn't let me expand the ubuntu partition for some reason.
[09:03] <Guest3790> ono wong indonesiane ora yo... kok podo ngewes enggris kabeh...
[09:03] <brandonmpace> P041NX: you do not need the -L after mount necessarily
[09:03] <Flannel> !english | Guest3790
[09:04] <jignesh> hiiiiiii to every one ...................
[09:04] <P041NX> kevin__::i give all my disks a name, and keep it pluged into the usb. using mount/umount vit tha script to spinup/spindown
[09:04] <kevin__> P041NX, this was one of the reasons I made the switch from Windows to Linux -- much of the usefulness of the kernal is given to the user (hence the "sudo" command).
[09:04] <ozkelligirl> what program can i use to play "AVI" movies?
[09:04] <kevin__> P041NX, yea, it makes a lot of sense to do it that way.
[09:04] <Flannel> sullyva86: well, you can only expand ext3 partitions backwards, not fowards directly.  But gparted should be able to do the workarounds automatically to resize whereever.
[09:04] <_LiNuX_> i have sownload and install Downloader for X but when i put the rapidshare download links then nothing happen....Is any other program like jdownloader UsDowloader..?
[09:04] <HappyHater> ozkelligirl, vlc media player plays about everything
[09:05] <P041NX> brandonmpace: the -L is there because I mount/unmount all usb external diskas manually via the name.
[09:05] <ozkelligirl> where can i get it?
[09:05] <vgambit> how do I enable DMA?
[09:05] <HappyHater> it's in the repos, synaptic or apt-get
[09:05] <Politics> What are some network manager alternatives to knetworkmanager
[09:05] <The-Compiler> !who | ozkelligirl and HappyHater
[09:05] <ozkelligirl> ok
[09:05] <vgambit> I'm typing sudo hdparm /dev/hdc but it says no such file or directory
[09:05] <Politics> (For use in KDE, obviously)
[09:05] <Mr_Fixit> what can i use to convert .wav to ,mp3?
[09:05] <brandonmpace> P041NX: ah I just thought you know maybe make it as easy as possible for kev
[09:06] <indian_munnda> anyone plz tell me why my synaptic is not showing vmware package?? Isn't it available in the repositories???
[09:06] <The-Compiler> Mr_Fixit: soundconverter or soundkonverter, both in the repos
[09:06] <sullyva86> Flannel: I read something about having to move the partition in front of the free space be able to expand it so I guess i'll try that thanks.
[09:06] <HappyHater> The-Compiler, I hit tab so you'd know I was telling you piss off
[09:06] <Mr_Fixit> yea cool thanks
[09:06] <badfish> check
[09:06] <The-Compiler> !language | HappyHater (:D)
[09:06] <brandonmpace> vgambit: if it says that then it´s not there lol. what are you trying to do?
[09:06] <Flannel> !vmware | indian_munnda
[09:06] <kevin__> brandonmpace, hehe thanks for lookin out
[09:07] <wariskampar> Hello, how do I troubleshoot Visualization Problem in Rhythmbox
[09:07] <indian_munnda> Flannel: i have hardy installed in my PC, so it means i can't install vmware??
[09:07] <P041NX> brandonmpace: kevin was lost because he couldn't find the disk path. I know i had the same problem before, and the solution was giving the disk partition a name
[09:07] <Flannel> indian_munnda: I didn't say that.  Read the wiki page.
[09:07] <vgambit> play a region 2 dvd on my region 1 laptop dvd drive
[09:07] <zafle> wariskampar: what is the problem with visuals
[09:07] <vgambit> I changed the region to 2 using regionset but it's still wonky
[09:07] <wariskampar> when i press the button, my system will freeze
[09:07] <vgambit> it only plays in VLC, and doesn't display any video once I select a title
[09:08] <eramo> hi.. where to put a script to get it executed when xorg starts? is it in /etc/X11/xinit ?
[09:08] <vgambit> and the audio is really jerky
[09:08] <P041NX> brandonmpace: once there is a name to the partition, it can be looked up pritty easly
[09:08] <zafle> wariskampar: what visual? mine used to do that with goom on fullscreen
[09:08] <zafle> wariskampar: try turning size down
[09:08] <Mr_Fixit> The-Compiler, for soundconverter what do i need to add for mp3 encoder?
[09:08] <wariskampar> i can not even fire up the visual
[09:08] <The-Compiler> Mr_Fixit: lame i think
[09:08] <wariskampar> maybe some component missing
[09:09] <rebel_kid> is there a way to set all files in a folder as root write only, anyone read, but still be able to save files, im using this for version control to keep myself from overwriting.
[09:09] <wariskampar> because I just uninstall amarok
[09:09] <zafle> wariskampar: strange. try a reinstall? and try libvisual  pacakge?
[09:09] <wariskampar> libvisual package? in Sypnatic?
[09:09] <Flannel> rebel_kid: You'd remove the file's write permissions, but keep write permissions on the folder.
[09:09] <brandonmpace> vgambit:  did you install medibuntu?    if so,  install libdvdcss2 from synaptic
[09:10] <vgambit> I did both
[09:10] <rebel_kid> flannel, then i would have to set the permissions everytime i saved a new file right?
[09:10] <jignesh> i a not able to connect to internet using command "sudo dsl-provider"....... every time  i have to reconfigure using command '' sudo pppoeconf".....what might be the problem?
[09:10] <Flannel> rebel_kid: Everytime you created a new file.
[09:10] <jignesh> '
[09:10] <Mr_Fixit> The-Compiler, actually it was gstreamer something.. but thanks anyways..
[09:10] <rebel_kid> flannel, guess that will have to do
[09:10] <badfish> rebel_kid: sudo does it all
[09:11] <rebel_kid> badfish: ???
[09:11] <Flannel> badfish: Please be helpful
[09:11] <P041NX> rebel_kid: you might want to read up on unionfs or aufs to do what you want, a copy-on-write with writeprotect on the lower parts.
[09:11] <badfish> if you have gnome you don't have to set anything EVERY time you do something
[09:11] <wariskampar> @zafle, libvisual was already installed in my system
[09:12] <rebel_kid> p041nx: ok, thanks for now i think i will just stick to slapping myself everytime i overwrite my old versions :)
[09:12] <zafle> wariskampar: oh nvm... try a reinstall of rhythmbox.
[09:12] <badfish> there's a text editor that remembers commands
[09:12] <zafle> wariskampar: via right  click in synaptic
[09:13] <badfish> you don't even need a control key
[09:13] <wariskampar> if I reinstall do my playlist effected
[09:13] <wariskampar> i mean does it be erased all together
[09:13] <badfish> depends on what drive it's on and how it's formatted
[09:13] <P041NX> rebel_kid:unionfs is installed default on ubuntu, It's what I use, and not that hard to setup.
[09:13] <badfish> was it there when you installed ubuntu?
[09:14] <badfish> cuz if it was, it'll be there afterware
[09:14] <badfish> afterward*
[09:14] <zafle> wariskampar: i'm not sure but they  should be saved in you config file. save them to desktop to be sure
[09:14] <jignesh>  i am not able to connect to internet using command "sudo dsl-provider"....... every time  i have to reconfigure using command '' sudo pppoeconf".....what might be the problem?
[09:14] <Flannel> wariskampar: Do you have a separate homedir?
[09:14] <badfish> jignesh: can you connect using the livecd?
[09:14] <badfish> firefox, livecd?
[09:14] <wariskampar> @flannel, yup
[09:15] <raulh> http://treefort.icculus.org/armyops/armyops250-linux.run
[09:15] <raulh> is the game
[09:15] <q0s> hey guys. did anyone noticed really slow performance of vino too?
[09:15] <raulh> but it's text format to me
[09:15] <raulh> how come?
[09:15] <Flannel> wariskampar: Then all of your personal files (including playlist, I assume) will be in there, and you'll be fine.
[09:15] <indian_munnda> Flannel: is there any substitute available for vmware in Hardy??
[09:15] <pan32> join #wicd
[09:15] <wariskampar> ok..i'll re-install now then
[09:15] <pan32> sorry
[09:15] <Flannel> indian_munnda: You'd have to read that wiki page and find out. I don't know.
[09:15] <zafle> wariskampar: ok let me know if that helps
[09:15] <Fargh_> nick nootjes
[09:16] <HappyHater> indian_munnda, virtualbox
[09:16] <nootjes> anyone around +
[09:16] <nootjes> ?
[09:16] <P041NX> rebel_kid: unionfs ${path-that-shows-both} unionfs rw,dirs=${/dirs-with-newer-versionis-saved-here}=rw:${path-that-will-be-readonly}=ro,debug=0,delete=whiteout,copyup=preserve 0 0
[09:16] <nootjes> im running kubuntu and firefox is costantly using 50% CPU
[09:16] <nootjes> dont think thats normal
[09:16] <nootjes> even with no webpages
[09:17] <mohan34u> nootjes: which version of firefox?
[09:17] <indian_munnda> HappyHater: thanks dude, thank you very much. And you too Flannel thanks.
[09:17] <nootjes> 3.0.1
[09:17] <Mr_Fixit> The-Compiler, gstreamer-lame even lmao
[09:17] <nootjes> nootjes  7306 58.4  7.9<PHONE_NUMBER>00 ?       Rl   08:48  50:31 /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.1/firefox
[09:17] <zafle> wariskampar: btw there was a bug report  for a similar issue on launchpad so this may just be a  bug that hasnt been resolved
[09:17] <mohan34u> nootjes: did you installed any add-on?
[09:17] <The-Compiler> Mr_Fixit: hehe ^^
[09:17] <nootjes> yes, greasemonkey
[09:18] <nootjes> i can disable it .. dont htink its causing it.  one sec
[09:18] <mohan34u> nootjes: try to reinstall that..
[09:18] <mohan34u> nootjes: or take out and check..
[09:18] <nootjes> disable not enough ?
[09:19] <mohan34u> nootjes: I don't know..just .. try..
[09:19] <nootjes> disabled them, restarted ... same CPU hog
[09:19] <happyhater69> it's never enough
[09:19] <mohan34u> nootjes: when this problem appeared?
[09:20] <nootjes> not sure, never paid attention to it before
[09:20] <mathijs> Hi, anyone here with some knowledge about gpl2 and gpl3 ?
[09:21] <nootjes> i removed all addons and still its using 58%
[09:21] <mohan34u> nootjes; any plug-ins causing the problem? may be java or flash?
[09:21] <Flannel> mathijs: questions regarding licensing are probably best asked in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:21] <HappyHater> be original nago
[09:21] <magnetron> mathijs, is this a support question? if not, please ask me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:21] <nootjes> where can I disable those, mohan34u ?
[09:22] <mathijs> Flannel: thanks, I'll look there
[09:22] <Nece228> hello people
[09:22] <mohan34u> nootjes: 1 sec..
[09:22] <jignesh>  badfish:not tried that....but i have already installed ubuntu8.4 hardy hearon...
[09:22] <Nece228> i still think that kde 3.5 is better than kde 4.1
[09:23] <Mr_Fixit> i'm not a big fan of KDE
[09:23] <Flannel> Nece228: Discussions belong in #ubuntu-offtopic, this is for support, thanks.
[09:23] <Mr_Fixit> reminds me too much of a work station and not a PC
[09:23] <zafle> i think kde 4 has huge potential
[09:23] <zafle> just  needs time to develop
[09:23] <Nece228> so can you please release two releases - kubuntu with kde 4.1 (by default) and kubuntu with kde 3.5?
[09:23] <happyhater69> jig.flan: gives no damnz
[09:23] <Nece228> just like kubuntu 8.04 had kubuntu kde4 and kubuntu
[09:23] <mohan34u> noutjes: just disable them and check? I don't think you need to remove..
[09:24] <Flannel> Nece228: That'd be a #kubuntu topic, or #kubuntu-kde4
[09:24] <vgambit> does anyone else have any idea of how to fix my dvd problem?
[09:24] <The-Compiler> Nece228: we aren't developers ;) We are just volunteers and useres ;)
[09:24] <mohan34u> nootjes: They are in tools->add-ons
[09:24] <nootjes> disable what mohan34u ?
[09:24] <happyhater69> numbers are nada
[09:24] <q0s> did anyone noticed really slow performance of vino too?
[09:24] <zafle> it would be cool if during the install kubuntu had a checkbox and you could chose which one
[09:24] <The-Compiler> vgambit: not w/o any problem :D
[09:24] <nootjes> i uninstalled them already mohan34u ... no help
[09:24] <vgambit> I get no video, for the most part, and the audio is jerky
[09:25] <vgambit> the only video that loads is the title screen in VLC; all other media players just crash
[09:25] <zafle> vgambit: whats the problem exactly?
[09:25] <wx9j_> file browser will not respond, reopens each time I kill it
[09:25] <happyhater69> call me out on .edu
[09:25] <P041NX> I need help setting up the usbfs. would anyone help me?
[09:25] <Nece228> oops sorry
[09:25] <rebel_kid> somehow my default working folder was set to /home/justin when running python scripts, i thought that if i ran a script from /home/justin/Desktop the working folder would become /home/justin/Desktop while running the script
[09:25] <Nece228> i thinked its kubuntu channel
[09:25] <zafle> vgambit: get libdvdcss2 and the medibuntu ugly packages and you should be set
[09:25] <vgambit> I did
[09:25] <happyhater69> cuz you wont' know me til i come back
[09:25] <zafle> google for dvd ubuntu
[09:26] <happyhater69> til the third time i make it obvious
[09:26] <mohan34u> nootjes: whats your homepage?
[09:26] <zafle> there are a lot of guides that are easier to follow then asking this forum imo
[09:26] <vgambit> I did
[09:26] <mohan34u> nootjes: is your homepage have lot of flash contents?
[09:26] <zafle> vgambit: try  it with  vlc
[09:26] <nootjes> about:blank
[09:26] <chronographer> anyone good with python and matplotlib ?
[09:27] <zafle> vlc works dif then  totem
[09:27] <vgambit> vlc loads the menu, but when I select an episode, it plays choppy audio and cuts out the video completely
[09:27] <mohan34u> nootjes: a somple way is, try to reinstall firefox..
[09:27] <P041NX> got problem where the usbfs is not exporting the dievices. the ./devices file is showing it correctly, just the export not working
[09:27] <zafle> vgambit: so it  works just not well
[09:27] <nootjes> ok
[09:27] <mohan34u> nootjes: a hard way is backtrack with 'gdb'
[09:27] <Ab3L> hello
[09:27] <vgambit> I wouldn't call that working
[09:27] <nootjes> never heard of that
[09:28] <nootjes> i'll reinstall
[09:28] <vgambit> working would be totem not crashing when I insert a dvd
[09:28] <nananuu> does any one know what I must write in firefox the address bar to get to all firefox system files?
[09:28] <P041NX> about:config
[09:28] <nananuu> thanx :)
[09:28] <goldmetal> is wine easy to use?
[09:28] <mohan34u> nootjes: after uninstall.. remove .mozilla in your home directory..
[09:28] <zafle> vgambit: thats strange... i'm upgrading to 8.10 at the moment or id check what files  i have
[09:29] <mohan34u> nootjes: careful.. don't remove if you use thunderbird..
[09:29] <zafle> vgambit: did you check the guides  on ubuntuforums?
[09:29] <P041NX> goldmatal:not really. better check if it's worth the effort, by the wine hq for list of apps that run on wine, before proceeding
[09:29] <vgambit> checking now
[09:29] <chalcedony> mohadib: my husband has a problem with thunderbird not deleting the junkmail folder when he clicks on it (kubuntu 8.4)
[09:30] <zafle> ok.. i'll  look aswell.. i might have to  restart the comp first to complete the upgrade but i'll look after that
[09:30] <BunTai> help me
[09:30] <BunTai> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:30] <BunTai> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[09:30] <BunTai> ive got it when update
[09:30] <FloodBot2> BunTai: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:30] <semester3> salam
[09:31] <semester3> Jello
[09:31] <semester3> Hello
[09:31] <semester3> How r u?
[09:31] <P041NX> BunTai: use sudo when running apt-get
[09:31] <CORE-X> where to write useradd comands??
[09:31] <CORE-X> :/
[09:31] <CORE-X> i mean the code
[09:31] <Flannel> CORE-X: a terminal
[09:31] <BunTai> P041NX: it will be like this...
[09:31] <CORE-X> ok
[09:31] <lakalaka> how .. how can i clear the system cache.. local cache.. system font cache, swap files.. reset lunch services. etc
[09:31] <lakalaka> is there an easy app? or something?
[09:31] <P041NX> BunTai:and you can not run synaptec and apt-get at the same time. close synaptec
[09:32] <chronographer> gold: wine is fine, as long as the program works in the first place!
[09:32] <zafle> la: sudo and manualy do it? not sure why youd want to
[09:32] <chronographer> If your program doesn't work, don't bother with it
[09:32] <BunTai> P041NX: http://paste.ubuntu.com/48510/
[09:32] <BunTai> no i didnt
[09:32] <nootjes> should it be 0 CPU  when I dont use firefox but firefox is open ?
[09:32] <nootjes> with about:blank
[09:33] <zafle> nootjes: i  doubt your system will be at zero
[09:33] <zafle> nootjes: there is a lot of background processes
[09:33] <nootjes> i mean firefox
[09:33] <bungaznan> @zafle, the solution not working
[09:33] <airtonix> nootjes, you will probably find that its flucuating very quickly between 0 and 2 or 3 percent
[09:34] <nootjes> its 4% now
[09:34] <airtonix> nootjes, too fast for any meter your using to visualise
[09:34] <nootjes> after reinstall
[09:34] <airtonix> nootjes, there ya go
[09:34] <bungaznan> when i run rhythmbox in Terminal i got this message when I play song
[09:34] <P041NX> BunTai: Seems like another app is using the file. check what's opening/loccking the file via lsof |grep lock
[09:34] <BunTai> P041NX: how
[09:34] <zafle> bungaznan: what does grep say?
[09:34] <BunTai> ?
[09:34] <BunTai> teach me
[09:34] <bungaznan> Rhythmbox-Message: Missing plugin: gstreamer|0.10|rhythmbox-metadata|application/x-rar decoder|decoder-application/x-rar
[09:34] <bungaznan> no application found
[09:34] <bungaznan> Rhythmbox-Message: No installation candidate for missing plugins found.
[09:34] <CORE-X> why, when [sudo] asks for pass, i cannot write, im writeing in terminal, but it is not responding :(
[09:34] <Flannel> CORE-X: it is.  It just doesn't output anything.  That's normal.
[09:35] <rconan> anyone had any luck using a Marvell 88se6121 in ubuntu?
[09:35] <zafle> bungaznan: did you reinstall it? or d elete it?
[09:35] <P041NX> BunTai: lsof |grep apt
[09:35] <BunTai> P041NX: ok
[09:35] <ghostlines> hi all
[09:35] <nootjes> i shouldn't have remove the .mozilla folder :)
[09:35] <nootjes> now I lost all my passwords
[09:35] <bungaznan> Re-install (wipe out the config file also)
[09:36] <BunTai> P041NX: after that?
[09:36] <BunTai> i can update?
[09:36] <P041NX> BunTai:what does it show?
[09:36] <ghostlines> for home usage someone wouldn't notice the difference between a 100mb lan and 1gb lan right?
[09:36] <BunTai> ok wait
[09:36] <zafle> bungaznan: ouch... i;ll search around i need to restart my comp first for my update brb
[09:36] <BunTai> P041NX: http://paste.ubuntu.com/48511/
[09:37] <ghostlines> no one can transfers at full 100mb lan speed anyway our harddrives can't even write that fast
[09:37] <mohan34u> nootjes: what you said? you lost your passwords..? what passwords?
[09:37] <chronographer> ghostlines: I agree, its movies over wireless which you do notice I reckon
[09:37] <mohan34u> nootjes: did you rm your .mozilla?
[09:37] <yavapai> i have no ext3 usb drive with 2.6.27-3 still works with 2.6.25
[09:38] <BunTai> P041NX: then..i can update now?
[09:38] <CORE-X> ok, guys, what to write to do the force mount usb external hdd drive??
[09:38] <brandonmpace> lol ghostlines I bet there are servers out there that can do it
[09:39] <P041NX> BunTai: you've got apt running.. you might want to till that apt ior wait untill it finishes.
[09:39] <BunTai> P041NX: ok...ive done update
[09:39] <BunTai> thnx
[09:40] <chalcedony> i copied .xcat2 to .xchat3 in order to create another completely different instance of my irc client.. but it did not make another xchat icon in the dropdown menu, to start it. I can make another internet icon, but not the submenu icons. How can i start the second xchat?
[09:40] <chalcedony> tuna-fish: *hugs*
[09:40] <P041NX> BunTai: apt can only run a single instance, so  if yow want to run multiple apt-get at the same time there really is no good way to do so.
[09:40] <P041NX> BunTai:  apt-get install {what-ever-package}
[09:41] <case^> chalcedony: pidgin can do multiple irc servers without messing about
[09:41] <brandonmpace> P041NX: lol all you have to do to run ¨multiple¨ apt-gets it     apt-get package package        etc
[09:41] <P041NX> BunTai: hope that helps
[09:41] <brandonmpace> just add em on
[09:42] <chalcedony> case^: so can xchat .. but *not* if you want it to auto join a bunch of totally different channels with two instance on the same network.
[09:42] <brandonmpace> oh lol just saw the context
[09:42] <P041NX> brandonmpace: no, he was trying to run apt-get while another apt-get was still running
[09:42] <P041NX> brandonmpace: from file locking he had problems.
[09:42] <brandonmpace> ^ lol I saw, sorry :)
[09:43] <P041NX> brandonmpace: and yes, specifying multiple packages after the command is well documented
[09:43] <chalcedony> tuna: if you aren't somebody i know i didn't mean to be fresh
[09:45] <CORE-X> how to add user to the "disk" group?
[09:45] <yavapai> has anybody tried those free satellite tv on your pc software not dvb-s but streaming them
[09:46] <yavapai> i tried some in wine with no luck
[09:48] <sunru> I would like to install ubuntu server within a chroot, i have installed via boot cd before and would like the same options any tips?
[09:48] <icedtea`> CORE-X: edit /etc/group
[09:48] <vgambit> well, I fixed my problem by downgrading to an older version of libdvdcss
[09:48] <bungaznan> anyone experience any problem with Visualisation in Rhythmbox
[09:49] <bungaznan> like freezing the system
[09:49] <vgambit> if anyone else has this problem, tell them to search for "enable dvd playback in linux" on lifehacker
[09:49] <brandonmpace> CORE-X: or you can just go to System>administration>users groups
[09:49] <case^> bungaznan: (use audacious)
[09:50] <brandonmpace> vgambit: sometimes newer isn´t always better ;)
[09:50] <P041NX> CORE-X: or usermod -a ${group}
[09:50] <CORE-X> thanks, i made it, did the force mount ^^
[09:50] <bungaznan> except for this problem, rhythmbox suit me well
[09:50] <vgambit> indeed
[09:51] <Kondor> good morning all when i install some programms in ubuntu were can i find it when the programm for the shell ist
[09:51] <P041NX> I'm having problems whth lsusb / usbfs... is there a way to force the export of usb devices
[09:51] <vgambit> downgraded from the latest version of libdvdcss2 (1.2.9-2medibuntu4) to an older version from January (1.2.5-1)
[09:51] <bungaznan> in fact I just un-install amarok because I hate multiple program in my system
[09:52] <CORE-X> is there in ubuntu some folder like my documents? :D I just dont know where to put my pic, music, vid folders :P
[09:52] <brandonmpace> vgambit: that´s good info to post here as it goes into the logs
[09:52] <zafle> back
[09:52] <zebralinux> bungaznan,  what media player u use now ??
[09:52] <vgambit> cool
[09:52] <bungaznan> rhythmbox
[09:52] <zafle> anyluck either of you?
[09:52] <bungaznan> no
[09:53] <bungaznan> is it an un-solved bug
[09:53] <bungaznan> @zafle, can you point me to the bug report
[09:53] <zafle> bungaznan: i saw a bugreport for the visual problem that sounded like yours
[09:53] <zafle> bungaznan: ill see if i can find it again
[09:54] <Minty> hello
[09:54] <ganesh> no title bar for firefox and not able to change screen resolution..how to fix?
[09:54] <bungaznan> zafle:really appreciate it
[09:54] <Minty> on a new install how can I get the home folder on the desk top to be seen, I can't remebr
[09:54] <zafle> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/159639
[09:54] <brandonmpace> ganesh: do your other windows have title bars?
[09:54] <ganesh> brandonmpace: yes..others hav
[09:55] <blackfox86> i cant delete file at trash at ubuntu ..massage say Error while deleting.
[09:55] <brandonmpace> ganesh: hmm
[09:55] <c0re-X> guys, where to put personal files, like pics, videos, or movies???
[09:55] <brandonmpace> c0re-X: what do you mean?
[09:55] <P041NX> Please, I would appreciate if anyone can direct me in the right direction.
[09:56] <_coredump_> moinsen
[09:56] <P041NX> where is the place to discuss problems on usbfs
[09:56] <Minty> c0re-X, in yout home folder
[09:56] <Dannyk> is here any opera user?
[09:57] <Gnea> P041NX: force the export?
[09:57] <c0re-X> ok
[09:57] <c0re-X> thanks
[09:57] <brandonmpace> c0re-X: there are seperate folders for those types of files in your home folder
[09:57] <c0re-X> ^___^
[09:57] <P041NX> Gnea: Yes, usbfs exports the list of attached usb devices
[09:57] <zebralinux> Cormentia,
[09:57] <zebralinux> c0re-X,  klick places
[09:57] <P041NX> Gnea: But for some unknown reason, suddenly it stoped showing the list
[09:58] <Minty95> on a new install how can I get the home folder on the desk top to be seen, I can't remember wher the option is to add them
[09:58] <Gnea> P041NX: what changed?
[09:58] <ganesh> brandonmpace:how if i re install firefox?
[09:58] <brandonmpace> P041NX: have you restarted?
[09:58] <Akuma3> Hello, I'm having problems connecting to my wireless network when WEP is activated. (both on command line and WiCD)
[09:58] <pan_> anyone have problems with turion64 laptop to hibernate ubuntu?
[09:58] <zebralinux> Minty95,  thats a tricky one
[09:58] <zafle> bungaznan: which visual are you using? oinksie is known to crash happens on 8.04 and 8.10 with my comp
[09:58] <brandonmpace> ganesh: that might help.. have you restarted after this problem came up?
[09:58] <P041NX> Gnea:Yes restarted, acpi is off, lsusb does not show, but lsusb -t shows the tree
[09:58] <zebralinux> Minty95,  I did It through console
[09:58] <Minty95> zebralinux, I know there is a menu somewher and all I have to is tick the show option
[09:59] <P041NX> Gnea: Changed thing is that i've attached a usb scanner, Epson GT7600
[09:59] <ganesh> brandonmpace: yes
[09:59] <brandonmpace> pan_: http://www.tuxonice.net/  this is the only successful way to hibernate ubuntu on a laptop
[09:59] <brandonmpace> ganesh: try the reinstall then
[09:59] <karex> HI, what's difference between openoffice with JRE and without JRE?
[09:59] <zebralinux> Minty95,  I tried to drag it out to Desktop
[09:59] <P041NX> Gnea:the /proc/bus/usb/devices is there, showing all devices.
[10:00] <chalcedony> karex: Java Runtime Environment it's not going to do some of the things it might do with it
[10:00] <P041NX> Gnea:But it is not exported to /proc/bus/usb/00X
[10:00] <zebralinux> Minty95,  well tell me if you dont succed
[10:00] <pan_> thx
[10:00] <c0re-X> guys, how to add that 3dbox effect in ubuntu?
[10:00] <pan_> appreciate it
[10:00] <chalcedony> karex: try in #openoffice.org
[10:00] <zebralinux> Minty95,  i know another way
[10:00] <Gnea> P041NX: why turn acpi off?
[10:00] <zafle> corex: enable compiz
[10:00] <c0re-X> oh
[10:01] <c0re-X> where?
[10:01] <mafu> Hello there. I have a RAID1 setup on a Debian system, with two disks. I wish to move this setup to a Kubuntu box. Does anyone know if there is any problem with that? I am using mdadm on Debian. And: if there is a better channel for help with this, please point me to it. :) Thank you!
[10:01] <c0re-X> o right :)
[10:01] <zafle> corex: and  use "advanced visual prefs" to enable  that effect
[10:01] <P041NX> Gnea: My system seems to become unstable when it's on
[10:01] <zafle> right click your background and enable desktop effects
[10:01] <c0re-X> i have enabled those
[10:01] <Gnea> P041NX: did you try anything else or just that?
[10:01] <zafle> do you get  gfx acceleration?
[10:01] <ganesh> brandonmpace:using synaptic?
[10:01] <c0re-X> when i move my windows they are kinda slippery
[10:01] <c0re-X> :D
[10:01] <c0re-X> like a jelly
[10:02] <brandonmpace> ganesh yes right click on firefox and click reinstall, i think
[10:02] <Minty95> zebralinux, I know that I can drag the folder, but there is menu somewhere, just where is it ??; me is looing all over the place :)
[10:02] <zebralinux> Minty95,  You cant drag your home dir to desktop
[10:02] <zebralinux> Minty95,  It will complain
[10:02] <P041NX> Gnea: Problem occoured after attaching the scanner, everything lese is my default setup that has not changesd
[10:02] <brandonmpace> lol
[10:03] <ganesh> brandonmpace: how do i reinstall using command line?
[10:03] <P041NX> Gnea:IThe system was running fine, and lsusb was working
[10:03] <c0re-X> but guys, what key-combination i should use, to change workspaces via 3d cube?
[10:03] <psor> hi. anybody try game Perfect World (onlineRPG) in ubuntu ????
[10:04] <P041NX> Gnea: Export if usbfs was there, showing all devices in the form if /proc/bus/usb/001/00X etc..
[10:04] <zafle> corex: go into advanced desktop effects
[10:04] <c0re-X> ok
[10:04] <zafle> in there?
[10:04] <Gnea> P041NX: okay, you're just repeating what you told me, you're not answering my question, which means that I can't help you.
[10:04] <airtonix> zebralinux, Minty95 you are thinking of the gconf setting for nautilus that makes your home folder the desktop
[10:05] <Gnea> P041NX: is the scanner the only device that's triggering the lack of output from the lsusb command?
[10:05] <pan_> what is good about tuxonice?
[10:05] <brandonmpace> ganesh: apt-get --reinstall package
[10:05] <brandonmpace> i think
[10:05] <zebralinux> Gnea, where is gconf ??
[10:05] <P041NX>  Gnea: Err, didn't mean to . sorry.  acpi is aff at all times, and it has not been changed
[10:05] <brandonmpace> pan_: it actually works
[10:05] <P041NX> off
[10:05] <zafle> "compizconfig" i t hink its called
[10:05] <c0re-X> well, its kinda hard to find them
[10:05] <airtonix> zebralinux, alt+f2 , type : gconf-editor
[10:05] <zebralinux> brandonmpace,  apt-get install --reinstall  package
[10:05] <Minty95> airtonix, I'm not sure, for the moment I have no folder on newly installed desktop, and I would like to see Home folder etc
[10:05] <c0re-X> coz i have in my language the whol ubuntu
[10:05] <c0re-X> whol*
[10:05] <c0re-X> :D
[10:05] <Gnea> P041NX: okay - but now i'm asking you about the scanner.
[10:06] <c0re-X> whole*
[10:06] <FloodBot2> c0re-X: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:06] <Minty95> airtonix, rather thans just an empty desktop
[10:06] <P041NX>  Gnea: Yes, the scanner is the only device that has caused this lack of output from lsusb
[10:06] <brandonmpace> pan_: I have tried to get hibernate to work on 10 different laptops of different brands, no luck.    tux on ice worked though
[10:06] <brandonmpace> zebralinux: thank you
[10:06] <zebralinux> Gnea, Ok in gconf ??
[10:06] <zamanfou> brandonmpace pan
[10:06] <Gnea> P041NX: how sure are you that acpi is the problem?
[10:06] <ganesh> brandonmpace: Invalid operation firefox
[10:07] <Gnea> zebralinux: what?
[10:07] <pan_> ah
[10:07] <zafle> corex: type "ccsm" in terminal
[10:07] <Gnea> !ask | zebralinux
[10:07] <airtonix> Minty95, run gconf-editor and navigate to : apps -> nautilus... see if any of those options in there are what your thinking of
[10:07] <zebralinux> Gnea, where in gconf to fix that ?
[10:07] <P041NX>  Gnea:  This scanner itself is working file on windows. xsane has support, and on ubuntu, it works if it is plugged in from cold boot
[10:07] <Gnea> zebralinux: to fix WHAT? i wasn't helping you.
[10:07] <c0re-X> ok
[10:07] <brandonmpace> apt-get install --reinstall  firefox                  ganesh
[10:07] <bungaznan> @zafle, how to know what visualisation we're using
[10:07] <zebralinux> Gnea, where in gconf to fix that ?
[10:07] <zamanfou> brandonmpace pan
[10:08] <zebralinux> Gnea, to show home folder in Desktop
[10:08] <zafle> bungaznan: there should be a menu at the bottom of the visual
[10:08] <Gnea> zebralinux: i have no idea.
[10:08] <zafle> a drop down menu
[10:08] <P041NX>  Gnea:  abut the acpi: this was turned off from another problem, and i have menthined it becase ithis is deffret from the default ubuntu boot arguemnt
[10:08] <airtonix> zebralinux, apps -> nautilus
[10:08] <brandonmpace> zamanfou: yes?
[10:08] <zebralinux> airtonix,  where in gconf ??+++
[10:08] <c0re-X> ok, installing it
[10:08] <yjwong> zebralinux, /apps/nautilus
[10:08] <airtonix> zebralinux, apps -> nautilus
[10:08] <c0re-X> i didnt have it
[10:08] <Gnea> zebralinux: you need to listen to airtonix.
[10:08] <c0re-X> and it offered installation
[10:09] <zafle> corex: install it
[10:09] <airtonix> zebralinux, apps -> nautilus -> desktop
[10:09] <Gnea> P041NX: is this a laptop or desktop?
[10:09] <yjwong> apps -> nautilus -> desktop on the left pane, then check "home_icon_visible"
[10:09] <c0re-X> ok
[10:09] <P041NX>  Gnea:  a desktop
[10:09] <Minty95> airtonix, thats perfect, thanks
[10:09] <zafle> corex: that program will have options for all the desktop effects, there is one called desktop cube
[10:09] <zafle> just enable it
[10:10] <airtonix> Minty95, there is a package called ubuntu tweak that will provide a minimal gui for some of those obscure settings in there...
[10:10] <c0re-X> ok
[10:10] <zebralinux> Minty95,  I fixed it
[10:10] <c0re-X> ty
[10:10] <zafle> corex: welcome
[10:11] <udo1985> Hi guys! Just one simple question: Does Debian in its default install include binary code blobs?
[10:11] <Flannel> udo1985: Try #debian or #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:12] <Gnea> P041NX: is the scanner plugged directly into the system or into a usb hub?
[10:12] <udo1985> OK, thank you
[10:12] <bungaznan> eureka...there's some improvement
[10:12] <P041NX>  Gnea:  Directly onto a usb 1.1 chip
[10:12] <P041NX> on the motherboard
[10:12] <shingoki> So has it been decided what ibex will look like, yet? I saw some really awful "everything dark brown" screenshots, was just wondering how it is going?
[10:12] <sunru> I want to install ubuntu server in a chroot, is this difficult with ubuntu?
[10:12] <Flannel> shingoki: #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid questions, thanks.
[10:13] <Ziroday> Flannel: dammit, was about to say that :P
[10:13] <P041NX>  Gnea:  Port has been tested if it's broken. Both two ports on m/b work (have tested diffrent external usb drive to confirm)
[10:13] <bungaznan> i tick Visualisation option in View, and now my system will no longer freeze
[10:13] <MyNameIsZohan> I just recently installed the cairo dock, can anyone tell me what's the middle click?
[10:13] <zafle> shingoki: i'm using it right now, it has the old theme by default and comes with the dark newhuman theme, i'm assuming that is the new theme
[10:13] <shingoki> Flannel: thanks
[10:13] <sunru> hmm
[10:14] <Ziroday> MyNameIsZohan: clicking the scroll wheel or left and right click together
[10:14] <zafle> shingoki: if you google intrepidibex theme there is a really nice looking brown one
[10:14] <c0re-X> how to pain fire on the screen?
[10:14] <sunru> well
[10:14] <c0re-X> :D
[10:14] <bungaznan> thanks to everyone speacially zafle
[10:14] <sunru> all i can do then is tar up a debian install on another server and untar that into the chroot.
[10:14] <zafle> bungaznan:welcome, sorry it w asnt resolved
[10:14] <Ziroday> c0re-X: you need to install the advanced desktop effects settings manager and enable it
[10:14] <c0re-X> i have it
[10:14] <sunru> infact, i will do this.
[10:15] <c0re-X> i checked the fire drawing
[10:15] <c0re-X> and now how to pain it?
[10:15] <Ziroday> c0re-X: then you need to look at the key bindings
[10:15] <damnnicks> How much faster will ubuntu run than vista on a core 2 duo quad @ 3.8ghz 1800mhz fsb, 8gb ddr3 ram @ 1800mhz, 2 nvidia gtx 280s, and 4 velociraptors in raid?
[10:15] <c0re-X> ok, ty
[10:15] <sunru> damnnicks: who knows!
[10:15] <sunru> who cares!
[10:15] <damnnicks> I do
[10:15] <damnnicks> vista screams :D
[10:16] <Ziroday> damnnicks: both OS's will run extremely fast on those specs
[10:16] <c0re-X> im in key bindings. but thers nothing about painting fire :S
[10:16] <sunru> he wants to know which is faster.
[10:16] <c0re-X> thers only the regular bindings
[10:16] <sunru> I'm thinking "depends"
[10:16] <c0re-X> not for effects
[10:16] <damnnicks> I know vista does :D but will ubuntu make better use of my 4 cores?
[10:16] <zafle> core-x: i believe its alt or ctrl, just set a key binding, might be ctrl p or something weird
[10:17] <c0re-X> o ok
[10:17] <c0re-X> thanks
[10:17] <sunru> damnnicks: the kernel will is you enable smp
[10:17] <c0re-X> i found
[10:17] <Ziroday> c0re-X: try shift super left click
[10:17] <brandonmpace> c0re-X: shift  windows click
[10:17] <i_love_linux> i need help new to ubuntu and connecting to a windows network
[10:17] <c0re-X> what means <super> ?
[10:17] <damnnicks> I see
[10:17] <c0re-X> what key is that?
[10:17] <brandonmpace> c0re-X:windows
[10:17] <zafle> lol at the gimicky fun of the paint  tool
[10:17] <zafle> paint fire*
[10:17] <jin_> C0nn0R, the windows key
[10:17] <c0re-X> ok
[10:17] <ortsvorsteher> !de
[10:17] <Ziroday> zafle: offtopic in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:18] <B3z3rk3r> bedtime, night guyz
[10:18] <zafle> later
[10:18] <MyNameIsZohan> is possible i have no middle click?
[10:18] <MyNameIsZohan> cause i can't seem to pull it
[10:18] <Ziroday> MyNameIsZohan: that is impossible
[10:18] <c0re-X> yey, fun
[10:18] <Minty95> need to share a folder for my other cumpuer to see, I cant do in simple share options as I don't have permission, so how do I do it ?
[10:18] <Minty95> hoping that was clear
[10:19] <WastePotato> Anything much going on in here?
[10:19] <i_love_linux> how do i connect to a windows network and see the shared folders
[10:19] <P041NX>  Gnea:  Would it be possible to redirect me to the appropriate place for discussion/question on usbfs exporting /lsusb problems?
[10:19] <MyNameIsZohan> left click and right click at the same time doesn't work
[10:19] <Ziroday> MyNameIsZohan: try ctrl and left click
[10:19] <WastePotato> SAMBA
[10:19] <Ziroday> P041NX: ##linux
[10:19] <jin_> i_love_linux, places -> Network
[10:19] <jin_> i_love_linux, that's on your desktop panel
[10:19] <P041NX> ...ok... thank you for helping out.
[10:19] <Ziroday> i_love_linux: go to the Network area in the file manager
[10:19] <Minty95> brb
[10:20] <zafle> ilovelinux: google samba
[10:20] <MyNameIsZohan> ctrl and left click doesn't do anything
[10:20] <ganesh> when i tried to change screen resolution i could not...but result was i lost title bar of fire fox..how to fix it?
[10:20]  * damnnicks needs faster internet connection
[10:20] <i_love_linux> jin_, ziroday,  i am using xubuntu and i don't see anything like that
[10:20] <brandonmpace> i_love_linux: go to the Network area in the file manager
[10:20] <Ziroday> MyNameIsZohan: then the program is not correctly reading middle click. Please address
[10:20] <MyNameIsZohan> k
[10:20] <Ziroday> i_love_linux: xubuntu in #xubuntu please
[10:20] <Gnea> P041NX: you could try pci=routeirq
[10:20] <MyNameIsZohan> anyone familiar with cairo dock?
[10:21] <zafle> mynameiszohan: yes
[10:21] <zafle> mynameiszohan: what about it
[10:21] <i_love_linux> backslash join #xubuntu right
[10:21] <Ziroday> i_love_linux: yes
[10:21] <Flannel> i_love_linux: /join #xubuntu
[10:21] <MyNameIsZohan> can't seem to work the middle click button
[10:21] <Flannel> er,
[10:21] <Flannel> yes.
[10:21] <P041NX> Gnea:  for interrupt crash?
[10:21] <i_love_linux> thanks
[10:22] <Akuma> Hello, I have a problem: I cannot connect to encrypted wireless networks (open networks connect just fine)
[10:22] <Akuma> I'm using shared WEP on my wless router
[10:22] <zafle> akuma: does it prompt for a pswd?
[10:22] <Akuma> no
[10:22] <Gnea> P041NX: it doesn't crash, it re-arranges and handles them better - could be the reason why ACPI wasn't working right in the first place.
[10:23] <Akuma> I'm doing it from command line
[10:23] <zafle> can you see the ssid?
[10:23] <barlrol> hey fellas, can someone help me with smb permission...I typed in Shares-admin into terminal and it allowed me to choose a folder to share over smb.  I made sure to uncheck the read only box.  But whenever I try to put files or folder into this shared folder over the network I get a permissions error, access denied...how do i give myself permission!!!???
[10:23] <Akuma> dhclient after setting the options in iwconfig
[10:23] <Akuma> I do see the wireless networks
[10:23] <nananuu> why pingus does not work yesterday all was fine?
[10:23] <Akuma> mine included
[10:23] <zch> how to su root
[10:23] <brandonmpace> Akuma: you may want to consider going open network but configuring a whitelist for mac addresses that only allows you access
[10:23] <Akuma> I have mac filtering
[10:23] <Gnea> barlrol: make sure your unix permissions are in sync
[10:23] <brandonmpace> then why do you have wep?lol
[10:24] <sfer3> Akuma: That could be your problem
[10:24] <Akuma> though I rather also have a password on it
[10:24] <barlrol> gnea: what do you mean by that, im a noob
[10:24] <zafle> akuma: can you get a promp via gui? or are you just on a term
[10:24] <sunru> zch: negative, use sudo
[10:24] <brandonmpace> mac filtering keeps other people off
[10:24] <Ziroday> !root > zch
[10:24] <P041NX> Gnea: Ok, will try and reboot it with pci=routeirq. Bi the way, you wouldn't know how to force the speed of usb to 1.1, would you?
[10:24] <sfer3> brandonmpace: They can be spoofed.
[10:24] <Akuma> the mac is allowed on the router, works fine when I make the network open
[10:24] <zafle> akuma: you can try turning all your filters off and  enable them one by one
[10:24] <zafle> akuma: oh
[10:24]  * Kondensuotas_pie kriu kriu. :D
[10:24] <skillet> wep shouldnt be used anymore. wpa is a lot better
[10:24] <zch> yes
[10:24] <brandonmpace> sfer3:  I know but how likely is it that someone will know that exact mac needed to get on the network
[10:24] <brandonmpace> lol
[10:24] <Akuma> zafle: I'm using wicd
[10:24] <Xteven> does anyone know a tool to find collisions/overlaps between ical files ?
[10:25] <sfer3> Akuma: Is there any particular reason you're doing it via command line?
[10:25] <Akuma> I tried both with gui and iwconfig ath0 key s:pass
[10:25] <sfer3> brandonmpace: Some people just can't get tnough security. :P
[10:25] <Gnea> barlrol: unix filesystem permissions are independent of windows networking share permissions - in other words, you need to make sure that the permissions of the folders (and root folders!) and the files you want to modify are set correctly on your ubuntu host in order for samba authentication to know that the files are indeed supposed to be writable.
[10:25] <Akuma> trying to debug the problem
[10:25] <sfer3> *enough
[10:25] <TiMiDo> which release is the unstable from ubuntu? edgy  breezy hoary or warty?
[10:25] <Gnea> !samba | barlrol
[10:25] <Akuma> I thought it was wicd
[10:25] <brandonmpace> sfer3: true lol
[10:25] <TiMiDo> !unstable
[10:25] <Gnea> barlrol: check that 2nd URL out
[10:25] <zch>  !root: event not found
[10:26] <TiMiDo> !unstable | unstable
[10:26] <Gnea> please do not abuse the bot.
[10:26] <TiMiDo> lol
[10:26] <TiMiDo> sorry which release is the unstable version of ubuntu
[10:26] <Akuma> the message I get on dhclient when I try to connect on my encrypted network is: No DHCPOFFERS received
[10:26] <jpds> !ibex | TiMiDo
[10:26] <TiMiDo> im downloading ubuntu right now and i want to packaged for ubuntu.
[10:26] <zafle> akuma: i'm not that good with wifi, but my suggestion would be to open your  router prefs and turn everything off and enable one at a time. you probably have a weird filter setting
[10:26] <Akuma> even though I've set the key correctly
[10:26] <brandonmpace> alpha 6 intrepid TiMiDo
[10:26] <skillet> Akuma, is DHCP turned on on the router