[16:27] <phatnutz> bkar I'll let you know what I find but I'm having a hard time with a decision - I have two identical 80 gb sata drives.  I don't know if I should put liveTV there for speed, or if I should but the root partition, apps and or swap there.  any input?
[16:27] <dissident> i can do that by right clicking on it and using the root passwd
[16:27] <ceil420> lol bkar
[16:27] <LjL> l3ttuc3: not sure, but likely in /tmp
[16:27] <dissident> but then i still cannot write to that disk
[16:27] <tanath> jrib, right. no icons, no wallpaper, no response to right click
[16:27] <anon19> Rainarrow: @100? Arr. This thing only runs at 60. I can see the refresh...
[16:28] <ceil420> Rainarrow, i just need more space :x 16:10/4:3 doesn't matter that much
[16:28] <logyati> is there a way to execute a script every time an user logout from gnome?
[16:28] <azexian> tanath: how did you do that!
[16:28] <genii> azexian: From what I can discern you compile xml code into the swf
[16:28] <bkar> phatnutz-> have a separate /boot partition, dont put in LVM
[16:28] <l3ttuc3> LjL tried there, no dice, the files are gone. i was hoping to save them for a rainy day, in case i have problems connecting to the net or something while reinstalling.
[16:28] <jrib> dissident: ok, you'll want to create a mount point for it and set it up in your fstab.  Let me know if you have any questions on how to do that after reading the link ubotu gives you:
[16:28] <jrib> !fstab > dissident (read the private message from ubotu)
[16:28] <sipior> phatnutz: are you really i/o limited for this digital recording?
[16:28] <r3r333rrrR> yes jrib , i said i was sorry
[16:28] <tanath> azexian, well, my computer blew up... that might have done it, lol. had to buy a new power supply
[16:28] <pure`eigenVector> help! I'm trying to mount an NTFS drive but gives me the error: Unexpected clusters per mft record (-127) failed to mount!
[16:29] <azexian> genii: ok, I'll look into, thanks, I am trying to preduce very simple swf files, like from flash, I don't need anything like actionscript, I will try this now, thanks
[16:29] <tanath> azexian, jrib , but it worked before, even after that
[16:29] <jrib> tanath: what does the following return: gconftool-2 -g /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop
[16:29] <azexian> tantath, fair enough :p
[16:29] <Rainarrow> anon19: yeah I can't stand anything below 75
[16:29] <Rainarrow> anon19: but once it get to 85 it's all ok
[16:29] <phatnutz> sipior from what perspective?  capture wil be done via firewire from my comcast dvr, so I expect a lot of dta coming in.  There's also a chance I may be doing analaog capture at the same time
[16:29] <tanath> jrib, true
[16:29] <Rainarrow> anon19: there's no real difference between 85 and 100, lol
[16:29] <dissident> jrib: there is no line in fstab for that drive, what now
[16:29] <Rainarrow> ceil420: 16:9 is ok for me, I just hate these non-standard 5:4/16:10
[16:29] <jrib> tanath: open an instance of nautilus
[16:30] <jrib> dissident: add one
[16:30] <tanath> jrib, it seems it doesn't want to run
[16:30] <ceil420> i don't know what people are trippin' on with refresh rates; 60Hz doesn't bother me, and never has
[16:30] <jrib> tanath: nautilus does not want to run?
[16:30] <dissident> jrib: i  did that and have to come back in failsafe
[16:30] <LjL> ceil420: perhaps you're on an LCD?
[16:30] <tanath> jrib, trying from terminal now
[16:30] <jrib> dissident: pastebin what you did
[16:30] <jrib> !paste | dissident
[16:30] <ubotu> dissident: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:30] <ceil420> LjL, nope. never owned one
[16:30] <genii> ceil420: If you are in north america where the wall outlet frequency is 60Hz and you work near fluorescent lights 60Hz refresh gives you massive migraines
[16:30] <artmoonik> hello does someone use libmtp7 on gutsy for a creative zen please ?
[16:30] <DIL_> hey i am trying to burn a cd, but i get a prompt to insert a RW or Blank disc. i am using new discs
[16:30] <bkar> phatnutz-> kind of interesting to find what you will get working, all these new hdtv gadgets, hdmi, blue ray stuff, hope you write a tutorial or blog to say your experiences
[16:31] <dissident> jrib:i just put in same line as my other drive (which i boot from)
[16:31] <ceil420> genii, ah, well i don't have fluorescent lights :p
[16:31] <sipior> phatnutz: hmm...well, with two applications writing simultaneously, i suppose striping can't hurt. there is the greater risk of total data loss, but i assume that's not a problem for you
[16:31] <jrib> dissident: pastebin it so I can see please
[16:31] <tanath> jrib, it seems to hang. there's no output
[16:31] <azexian> tanath: you could try nautilus --replace, and if not the perhaps you need to reinstall, try: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop nautilus
[16:31] <LjL> ceil420: then you have some pretty non-average eyesight... 60Hz *is* hard to bear for most people on moderately sized monitors. also, i think you should keep in mind that it can cause eyestrain even if you don't notice it
[16:32] <jrib> tanath: does it happen with a newly created user?
[16:32] <sipior> phatnutz: but then again, why only 2 80GB drives? that won't leave you much room
[16:32] <phatnutz> lol - got a sdtv with a happaughe pvr 150 running baout 2 years ago and have had intermittent linux experience over cloase to 10 years - but I've never been very advanced in any of this so a tutorial that I wite might be garbage
[16:32] <phatnutz> lol
[16:32] <tanath> azexian, i believe i already did reinstall it. i reinstalled lots of things to be safe
[16:32]  * Rainarrow agree with LjL
[16:32] <bkar> lol
[16:32] <tanath> azexian, Unknown option --replace
[16:32] <azexian> tanath, that's strange, nautilus --replace should always work...
[16:32] <azexian> tanath, soz I mean metacity --replace
[16:32] <l3ttuc3> LjL do agree with you about 60Hz, but most monitors come in that flavour.
[16:33] <phatnutz> sipior - my winblows system was there, striped for speed.  I was thinking that that the combined total of 160GB on a striped voluem would be a good temporry location for incoming recordings.  Then they could be moveds to my nas for long term storage
[16:33] <tanath> jrib, gah.. don't care to create another user, anything else to try first?
[16:33] <ToxicSoul2> 57Hz here..
[16:33] <ceil420> LjL, maybe i'm odd, but 15-17" CRT @ 60Hz has never bothered me. i'm more bothered by the fact that i can see the pixels of LCD's native resolution (little squares covering the screen... distracting as hell)
[16:33] <dissident> jrib:/dev/sdb1 ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[16:33] <genii> l3ttuc3: Yes it's unfortunate. They should all do at least 72
[16:33] <tanath> azexian, running compiz, but it and metacity run fine
[16:33] <sipior> phatnutz: sure, that'd work
[16:33] <azexian> tanath, erm...
[16:34] <Rainarrow> ceil420: on a moderately high-resolution LCD I don't really think you could see the pixels unless you watch very closely
[16:34] <jrib> dissident: delete that line
[16:34] <l3ttuc3> genii how does that compare on an LCD screen, i have a feeling i read somewhere they don't refresh the same way as CRT monitors?
[16:34] <Rainarrow> ceil420: but I do like CRT, cuz they could display just any resolution
[16:34] <MrObvious> ceil420: CRTs hurt my eyes now after using a nice flat panel 17" laptop for a few weeks.
[16:34] <dissident> already did that in failsafe cause i couldn't log in no more
[16:34] <jrib> dissident: now, what would you like the mount point for the drive to be?
[16:34] <jrib> !who | dissident
[16:34] <ubotu> dissident: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[16:34] <tanath> azexian, it's not the WM
[16:34] <Rainarrow> it's not like a LCD, which could only run one native resolution
[16:34] <ceil420> Rainarrow, my friend has a 15" and a 17" LCD, and i can sit there and count pixels in both :x i don't know what their native res's are
[16:34] <MrObvious> ceil420: Of course it's 1920x1200 so pixelation isn't a problem unless I do like 800x600.
[16:35] <tanath> azexian, it appears to be nautilus. it's responsible for the desktop
[16:35] <anon11> ceil420: I've always preferred CRTs but had to switch to an LCD due to space restrictions...
[16:35] <phatnutz> siphor - I also have a 120 gb and 200 gb PATA ide drive in that system.  I'd like to keep one of them free fro a possble windoze dual boot down the road.  will I find my system slow if I only use one drive for the root. boot and swap volumes?
[16:35] <Rainarrow> ceil420: I guess 17''s has 1024x768 or 1280x1024
[16:35] <ceil420> MrObvious, i hate everything about laptops, except for their portability :x the screen, the keyboard, the fact that the screen is attached to the keyboard, etc
[16:35] <MrObvious> phatnutz: When you run Windows, yes.
[16:35] <azexian> tanath: you could try making a new test user to see if it's a bad config somewhere
[16:35] <dissident> jrib:desktop if possible
[16:35] <ceil420> anon11, my condolences :x i'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming into next-gen displays ;)
[16:35]  * bkar feels older, haft to throw away his vt100 terminals..heh
[16:35] <Rainarrow> ceil420: on my Thinkpad T43 laptop w/ 1400x1050 I could barely see any pixels ;)
[16:35] <phatnutz> since I was on 32 bit windoze before, I expect that 64 bit ubuntu should be fast even if it's on a 7200 rpm PATA drive..
[16:35] <l3ttuc3> high resolution LCD would not be a problem, i wish my laptop had it, it's noticeably more tiring to look at it at 1280x800 than, say to look at a mac at 1440x??? thereabouts.
[16:35] <MrObvious> ceil420: My laptop is nice though. It's a Dell Vostro 1700 and it even has a number pad.
[16:35] <sipior> phatnutz: i doubt it. unless you plan on swapping a lot :)
[16:36] <tanath> azexian, *sigh*. that's a PITA
[16:36] <jrib> dissident: how about /media/sdb1 and you can create a symlink on your desktop to it afterwards?  Or do you actually want sdb1 to be your desktop?
[16:36] <l3ttuc3> my cousin had a dell laptop with a 1600x1200 resolution which was just amazing.
[16:36] <ceil420> MrObvious, don't think i've ever seen a laptop with a numpad :o it still has that dorky touchpad, or the nipple mouse ;x
[16:36] <Rainarrow> yeah, hi-res is tiring to look at
[16:36] <genii> bkar: If you actually have vt100 terminals send a memo to user Minataku instead of throwing them out, he collects archaic computer things :)
[16:36] <l3ttuc3> Rainarrow isnt that only if you use small fonts?
[16:36] <phatnutz> alright, lets see iof I can get this monster going.  It's on my gaming rig conencted to the samsung HDTV in the living room, so I'll be poppong back in to the bedroom computer to check here every so often.  thanks for your help guys
[16:36] <MrObvious> phatnutz: I'm on 64 bit and I can't really say if it's faster or not because I've only had Ubuntu on here really. But the biggest thing is getting Firefox to work with Flash and Java.
[16:36] <dissident> jrib: your suggestion of /media/sdb1 is fine
[16:37] <dissident> jrib: just tell me what to do
[16:37] <azexian> tanath, it's the easiest thing you can do to test, because it would show if it was user based, or something more serious, it will only be a 50MB, if not, then you could just do rm ~/.gnome* but you would use any custom settings
[16:37] <Rainarrow> l3ttuc3: but most of the fonts are bitmap ones
[16:37] <phatnutz> MrObvious - that's why I'm trying to leave a 200gb drive avaiable for windoze ;)
[16:37] <moonlite> phatnutz: its windows
[16:37] <Rainarrow> l3ttuc3: which would be a little ugly if upscaled
[16:37] <azexian> tanath rm -rf ~/.gnome* or rm -rf ~/.nautilus*
[16:37] <moonlite> you spelled it wrong
[16:37] <bkar> genii-> okay will do, may cost him a bundle though for shipping
[16:37] <l3ttuc3> Rainarrow eh? what? on ubuntu?
[16:38] <brobostigon> good afternoon
[16:38] <l3ttuc3> Rainarrow im using bitstream vera sans for everything, and that looks pretty crisp.
[16:38] <wyclif> good morning everyone
[16:38] <genii> bkar: At least he'll have had the chance to know :)
[16:38] <jrib> dissident: ok, if you do not want to use UUID to identify the partition, then add the following to your fstab: /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ext3 defaults 0 2
[16:38] <Rainarrow> l3ttuc3: actually I'm mentioning Windows, on Ubuntu it's basically all ok on my 14.1'' 1400x1050 SXGA+
[16:38] <anon11> good morning
[16:38] <Rainarrow> l3ttuc3: yeah I also liked bitstream fonts
[16:38] <phatnutz> ps, mrobvious - with  a lot of processer and memory power, youmay want to try using a virtual machine to emulate a 32 bit windows envireonment, just for stuff that gives you troube in a 64 bit environment
[16:38] <Rainarrow> l3ttuc3: also the Bitstream Sans Mono, for the terminal
[16:38] <brobostigon> g0ju: moin
[16:38] <Rainarrow> l3ttuc3: it looks great
[16:39] <dissident> jrib: it's the same to me, i just want to write to that disk
[16:39] <l3ttuc3> Rainarrow i wish i had that resolution on my laptop at least. in general, ubuntu looks a lot nicer than windows xp/vista, which is why it's what im using just now.
[16:39] <g0ju> ho
[16:39] <jrib> dissident: ok, let me know when that is done
[16:39] <l3ttuc3> Rainarrow indeed.
[16:39] <l3ttuc3> you nailed my visual configuration.
[16:39] <frojnd> helloo guys. How can I paste a couple of C lines in VI ?
[16:39] <l3ttuc3> it is so much nicer than the usual arial installment.
[16:39] <Rainarrow> l3ttuc3: XP is ok for me, Vista is huge, slow and stupid in general lol
[16:39] <jrib> frojnd: p
[16:39] <anon11> phatnutz: where can I get a decent virtual machine that could do so? I like to run ancient programs, and they don't handle 64 bit well.
[16:40] <jrib> frojnd: you should run through 'vimtutor'
[16:40] <Rainarrow> frojnd: you could also try to right on the terminal and use its paste function
[16:40] <ToxicSoul2> man.. I can't get ubuntu to boot for the life of me
[16:40] <ToxicSoul2> every other machine it works fine on
[16:40] <Rainarrow> actually I'm also a little confused on Vim's "global clip board" thing
[16:40] <l3ttuc3> Rainarrow i liked the looks of vista. then thought about how much better compiz fusion would look, and after finding out that every time i booted up vista 500MB of my hard disk disappeared, got annoyed, went back to XP just about long enough to download ubuntu and install it.
[16:41] <haxality> hi, I was wondering how to change back to the standard monospace font shown during boot-up, if possible
[16:41] <Rainarrow> argh, UBUNTUISLOVED has left..
[16:41] <anon11> l3ttuc3: I just figured if I wanted a nice-looking UI I'd try a mac... Vista didn't seem to offer much to me.
[16:41] <phatnutz> anon11 I'm not up on WINE, but I do know that vmware has an industry leading VM server freely available with a support community available for many playforms, including linux
[16:41] <haxality> I have a widescreen display and it looks weird with the font displayed when you turn off the 'splash' option
[16:42] <imilinuxos> hello all
[16:42] <Rainarrow> I'm still managing to get my X stared after I modified the xorg.conf as he told me lol
[16:42] <dissident> jrib: /dev/sdb1       /media/sdb1                               ext3    defaults        0       2
[16:42] <l3ttuc3> anon11 i think one of the reasons why macs look so good is that their displays are invariably higher resolutions, and are easier on the eyes, besides, mac hardware always look a little stylish.
[16:42] <Rainarrow> anon11 and l3ttuc3, MAC is good generally
[16:42] <dissident> jrib:is that ok
[16:42] <l3ttuc3> now they're just hacked up x86s with heavily customised *nix.
[16:42] <calc> vista got a lot faster for me after upgrading from 1gb -> 4gb ram
[16:42] <anon11> phatnutz: thanks.
[16:42] <ToxicSoul2> and now it stops at... sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/16x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[16:42] <ToxicSoul2> fun.
[16:42] <calc> of course its still vista though
[16:42] <brobostigon> mac os x
[16:43] <Rainarrow> calc: wow, RAM is really cheap now lol
[16:43] <jrib> dissident: yes that's fine.  Now, unmount sdb1 if you have mounted it through nautilus, then execute 'sudo mkdir /media/sdb1'
[16:43] <l3ttuc3> Rainarrow macbooks were made by Asus up till very recently, or still are.
[16:43] <anon11> ...it's a 19! Not an 11...
[16:43] <Rainarrow> calc: my T43 only goes up to 2GB
[16:43] <l3ttuc3> which kinda sucks, cos my asus laptop does not have anywhere near that resolution hehehe.
[16:43] <calc> Rainarrow: i put 4GB in my laptop but it only lets me use 3.3GB of it, even when using amd64 arch
[16:43] <Rainarrow> l3ttuc3: really? I guess it's just for manufacturing, many electronics are built in China or Taiwan
[16:43] <phatnutz> LiveCD installer question - how do I set up a SOFTWARE RAID 1 array during setup?
[16:43] <calc> Rainarrow: the bios on my laptop must be crap :-\
[16:43] <Rainarrow> l3ttuc3: like FOXCONN, ASUS
[16:44] <soldats> calc, your video card mey be using some of the memory
[16:44] <l3ttuc3> Rainarrow, check out the wikipedia article on asus or macbooks, it's in one of them.
[16:44] <genii> !shared
[16:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shared - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:44] <Tuco_> yo!
[16:44] <calc> soldats: its an i945 iirc it doesn't pre-reserve much
[16:44] <genii> Hmm
[16:44] <Rainarrow> calc: it's mostly the prob with your chipset
[16:44] <dissident> jrib: done that
[16:44] <brobostigon> phatnutz: you need the alternate install cd for that, the live installer wont do it.
[16:44] <jrib> dissident: now type 'sudo mount -a'
[16:44] <soldats> calc, did you run memtest and make sure everything is detected
[16:44] <calc> Rainarrow: hmm probably so, iirc intel x86_64 doesn't have the special mmu so they might all have that memory hole, not really sure
[16:44] <l3ttuc3> Rainarrow: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus under 'History'.
[16:45] <l3ttuc3> last paragraph.
[16:45] <calc> soldats: even memtest only sees ~ 3.3GB
[16:45] <jrib> Rainarrow, l3ttuc3: can you move the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[16:45] <dissident> jrib:done
[16:45] <soldats> wow chip set problem?
[16:45] <anon11> Well anyways, I'm trying to figure out whether to dual-boot XP with Ubuntu or dual-boot with Xubuntu. Any advice?
[16:45] <l3ttuc3> jrib ok. sorry.
[16:45] <calc> soldats: thats probably normal for ia32 but x86_64 should work around it
[16:45] <calc> soldats: i945 chipset
[16:45] <phatnutz> brobostigon - is there an alternate CD available for MythBuntu?  I read somewhere that it doesn't exist...
[16:45] <soldats> true i wonder why it wont
[16:45] <jrib> dissident: ok, now we need to set permissions on the partition.  See ubotu's link and let me know what permissions you want if you are not sure how to set them:
[16:46] <sam__> can somebody help me (im a noob), play around w/ pwmconfig to get my fan speed lowered
[16:46] <sam__> its really loud
[16:46] <brobostigon> phatnutz: for mythbuntu, no idea, but ubuntu / kubuntu / xubuntu do.
[16:46] <calc> soldats: its either a bios pci relocation issue or a chipset issue
[16:46] <jrib> dissident: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[16:46] <Rainarrow> jrib: I'm sorry
[16:46] <Rainarrow> Sorry for offtopic guys
[16:46] <dissident> jrib: btw there is a lost+found folder on that hdd, can i delete that
[16:46] <soldats> anon11, ubuntu and xubuntu use the same kernal and undelying system xubuntu using xfce instead of gnome so it runs a little faster
[16:46] <ToxicSoul2> Okay wow, I finally got ubuntu installed however display is all messed up.. card is a rage128.. any ideas?
[16:46] <jrib> dissident: that's for the filesystem, just leave it
[16:47] <anon11> soldats: is there any disadvantage, then, to using Xubuntu?
[16:47] <neverblue> ToxicSoul2, enable the restricted drivers in the restricted drivers manager ?
[16:47] <brobostigon> anon11: only the DE, which is xfce, faster smaller DE.
[16:47] <sam__> can someone help me figure out how pwmconfig works b/c my computer has fan issues
[16:47] <Rainarrow> I'm doing a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and it's weird that I got even 1600x1200@85, but only 1024x768@75
[16:47] <neverblue> !away
[16:47] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also  !Guidelines
[16:47] <MichaelSammels> How do I add the cdrom deb line to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[16:47] <soldats> anon11, not really. xfce is a little more minimal and a little more restricted but runs a lot faster
[16:47] <ToxicSoul2> neverblue, "Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers"
[16:48] <jrib> MichaelSammels: use apt-cdrom
[16:48] <neverblue> ToxicSoul2, not sure about ATI, maybe try in #ati ?
[16:48] <anon11> soldats, brobostigon: Thanks.
[16:48] <soldats> np
[16:48] <Rainarrow> MichaelSammels: add the line  "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)]/ gutsy main restricted" if you are running Gutsy
[16:48] <phatnutz> Linux File Ssystem question - If I install a distro with a data partition on a second hard drive, would I later be able to dd support for LVM, and create a new data partition aftr installation was complete?
[16:48] <yahya> What can I use to play .gsm audio files?
[16:48] <MichaelSammels> Rainarrow: It's Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper
[16:49] <brobostigon> yahya: try vlc, that might do it.
[16:49] <MichaelSammels> Rainarrow: Can you please change what you said above to match Ubuntu 6.06 please?
[16:49] <genii> MichaelSammels: use apt-cdrom then
[16:49] <erUSUL> MichaelSammels: sudo apt-cdrom add /dev/cdrom
[16:49] <dissident> jrib: please assistance for changing permission please
[16:49] <Rainarrow> argh, I meant modifying the /etc/apt/sources.list file, forgot to mention the filename, me stupid
[16:50] <soldats> dissident, man chmod
[16:50] <jrib> dissident: what permissions do you want?  everyone can write and read, or only your user?
[16:50] <calc> yahya: sox might be able to convert it if you can't find anything to play it natively
[16:50] <yahya> brobostigon: vlc doesn't play it
[16:50] <kestir> I have a problem with my terminal...if I type sleep 2 && echo -e '\a' it makes no sound...can someone help me troubleshoot this?
[16:50] <MichaelSammels> erUSUL: I'm trying to add the Ubuntu 6.06 Desktop CD deb to the Ubuntu 6.06 Server sources.lst
[16:50] <u007-1> hi, anyway i can switch my gutsy to edgy version?
[16:50] <dissident> jrib:everyone
[16:50] <neverblue> u007-1, by doing a new install
[16:50] <jrib> dissident: sudo chmod 777 /media/sdb1/
[16:50] <Rainarrow> MichaelSammels: you could also try to looking for relevant options in Synaptics
[16:50] <sipior> u007-1: downgrading is usually fraught with peril, alas
[16:51] <Rainarrow> MichaelSammels: there should be a checkbox for the cdrom
[16:51] <u007-1> sipior: damn.. :(
[16:51] <MichaelSammels> Rainarrow: Server Edition has no GUI which I am trying to do. I was told to add the cdrom deb to sources.lst
[16:51] <azexian> tanath: any luck?
[16:51] <azexian> tanath: any luck?
[16:51] <dissident> jrib:did that
[16:51] <dissident> jrib: is that all
[16:51] <calc> u007-1: edgy is only to be supported for a few more months anyway
[16:51] <jrib> dissident: yes.  You may have to press "reload" in nautilus
[16:52] <calc> u007-1: edgy goes unsupported around the time hardy is released
[16:52] <Rainarrow> MichaelSammels: deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)]/ dapper main restricted
[16:52] <u007-1> calc: okay :)
[16:52] <dissident> jrib: is it possible i'm not using nautilus ?
[16:52] <Rainarrow> MichaelSammels: this should be the line in Dapper's /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:52] <MichaelSammels> Rainarrow: Thanks a lot :D
[16:52] <xplozion> Hi everyone
[16:52] <jrib> dissident: nautilus is the file browser in GNOME
[16:53] <yahya> calc: a 'play' command that got installed with sox can play .gsm files. Thanks for the tip!
[16:53]  * shyt asd
[16:53] <phatnutz> IF I were to use a linux partition manager on a bootable CD to create a LVM RAID1 array, would the liveCD installer be able to write data there?  seems like the answer should be yes, but I just want to be sure...
[16:53] <tanath> azexian, sorry, a couple things came up. i'm busy for a few mins. will try soon
[16:53] <dissident> jrib: there is also a link on my desktop
[16:53] <azexian> tanath that's fine
[16:53] <jrib> dissident: k, is everything working ok then?
[16:54] <dissident> jrib: yes it seems i can write to it, thank you sooooooooooooooo much
[16:54] <u007-1> is there any repository for gtk2.8 on gusty?
[16:54] <MrObvious> phatnutz: I run my CPU 100% already and I don't have any problems with Firefox after I found a nice howto to do it. :D
[16:54] <Rainarrow> Anyone here works with a CRT on 1280x960 res?
[16:54] <sipior> phatnutz: it should, yes. make sure it makes a filesystem on the array
[16:55] <phatnutz> MrObvious - user anon11 might be interested in how you did that.  depending on how this install goes, I may be too!  Could you recommend any good resources?
[16:55] <il3dsm> anybody knows how to configure apache2 so internal ip addresses don't get logged?
[16:55] <dissident> jrib: i reboot to see if everything is allright
[16:55] <phatnutz> sipior - ext3 for a Myth live recording data partition, right?  or is there a better file system?
[16:55] <neverblue> il3dsm, ask in #apache
[16:55] <neverblue> Rainarrow, can you get to the question ?
[16:56] <neverblue> !anyone > Rainarrow
[16:56] <sipior> phatnutz: i doubt it makes much difference. have a look on the mythTV forums, perhaps the topic has come up
[16:56] <Rainarrow> neverblue: thanks, my bad
[16:56] <MrObvious> phatnutz: Its on the wiki. Basically I typed in the search firefox and it has you download Firefox 32 bit and install Flash manually and Java and stuff but it shows how.
[16:56] <MrObvious> !firefox32
[16:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firefox32 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:57] <phatnutz> MrObvious - ah, so your runnig 32 bit firefox in a 64 bit environment, then?
[16:57] <Rainarrow> Anyone here working with a CRT on 1280x960 res? My Ubuntu box with a DELL P1110 21'' could work on 1280x1024, but I can't get it to run 1280x960
[16:57] <MrObvious> How do I add a factoid to the bot (installing a 32 bit firefox on a 64 bit enviroment)?
[16:57] <MrObvious> phatnutz: Yup. Works great.
[16:57] <Rainarrow> the 3d card is a ATi Radeon 9500
[16:57] <phatnutz> Rainarrow, can't you set custome resolutions in the x config files?
[16:57] <u007-1> !gtk
[16:57] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[16:58] <u007-1> !gtk2.8
[16:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk2.8 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:58] <neverblue> Rainarrow, did you enable the restricted drivers in the 'Restricted Drivers Manager' ?
[16:58] <Rainarrow> phatnutz: I did that already, what's weird is even I've added 1280x960 in the "modes" line, the res selection dialog still skips it
[16:58] <sipior> u007-1: might simply be easier to build an older version of gtk from source. i don't believe the dependency list is very long
[16:58] <darx1> whats the difference between xv and opengl for display?
[16:58] <darx1> :-)
[16:58] <darx1> which is faster
[16:59] <Rainarrow> neverblue: I've tried both the free "ati" driver and the proprietary "fglrx" driver, and both won't give me the option for 1280x960 res
[16:59] <phatnutz> Rainarrow damn, wish I could be more helpful but "check the config file" is about as deep as my understanding goes!  :)
[16:59] <abhi> when I trun on my cable modem after booting, I am not able to access net But if I turn on the modem during or before booting I am able to access the net. how to solve this problem?
[16:59] <Rainarrow> phatnutz: thanks you anyway
[16:59] <neverblue> Rainarrow, so this has nothing to do with compiz, and adding effects right, just trying to adjust res. ?
[16:59] <phatnutz> Rainarrow, why that odd resolution?  wh\y not 1280*1024?
[17:00] <Rainarrow> neverblue: yes, I'm just trying to adjust res.
[17:00] <chazco> Hi... my USB keyboard doesnt always work with Ubuntu unless I move it a different USB port (it doesnt matter which one it starts on and which one it ends on)... I think it may be being identified wrong... any ideas?
[17:00] <soldats> Rainarrow, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:00] <Thermite> MAKE SURE YOU WATCH THIS VIDEO - YOUR FUTURE DEPENDS ON IT - http://www.stage6.com/user/Udedenkz/video/1863997/Zeitgeist
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[17:00] <neverblue> thanks soldats
[17:00] <MrObvious> !ops
[17:00] <Rainarrow> phatnutz: I like 4:3 res while 1280x1024 is 5:4
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[17:00] <sipior> oh, lovely
[17:00] <TheLynx> please help me. i have a laptop with an amd64 (dual core). the cpu scaling is at 100% constantly even though the cpu load is small. only one core is detected when using system monitor. using ubuntu gutsy 7.10 btw. how do I change these settings??
[17:00] <soldats> !ops | Therock_
[17:00] <dissident> jrib:ok thanks
[17:00] <ubotu> Therock_: please see above
[17:00]  * Nikki85 is away: Gone away for now.
[17:00] <fabi_an> hi, when I plug in my external harddrive one partition gets mounted automagically, the other one not. the vfat partition is recognized as "removable", the xfs partition not. solutions?
[17:00] <Rainarrow> soldats: I just did that, which bring me back to the "ati" driver, and give me every other resolution but no 1280x960
[17:01] <MrObvious> !away > Nikki|AWAY
[17:01] <adrock358> HEY  what does "CD into a directory mean?"
[17:01] <soldats> thanks
[17:01] <dissident> jrib: btw can i add sounds to my desktop, when opening a window or so
[17:01] <Webu> Any suggestions how to automatically keep computer's clock syncronized (i don't have a GUI)?
[17:01] <adrock358> What does "CD into a directory mean?"
[17:01] <frojnd>    How can I get the name of process PID 6 ? I know I get all the process with top but how can I get just the name of PID 6 ?
[17:01] <MrObvious> adrock358: Change Directory, or move the terminal to a different folder. EG: cd /home/paul/Desktop would take me from /home/paul to /home/paul/Desktop
[17:01] <Rainarrow> adrock358: it means to "change your current working directory"
[17:02] <neverblue> adrock358, cd <directory>
[17:02] <Amaranth> adrock358: `cd` is a terminal command, short for "change directory"
[17:02] <soldats> Rainarrow, does it not show it in the list. not sure. you may be able to do it n the xorg.conf file but i need to go t work so i goota go
[17:02] <MrObvious> frojnd: Try ps aux | grep 6
[17:02] <praveen_> keyboard and mouse not working in LenovoY500 using Ubuntu7.10
[17:02] <adrock358> THANK YOU
[17:02] <Rainarrow> adrock358: e.g. cd /tmp should bring you to the /tmp directory
[17:02] <jrib> dissident: I don't know much about that.  System -> Preferences -> Sound Preferences -> Sounds   has some options though
[17:02] <Rainarrow> soldats: ok, thanks anyway
[17:02] <MrObvious> frojnd: Of course it'll tell you any PID that has a 6 in it, but you can read through that. lol
[17:02] <frojnd> MrObvious, too many.. I only need one name for PID 6
[17:02] <cannonball> frojnd: or  egrep '^Name:' /proc/6/status
[17:02] <kingrat76> hi, someone can help me with a problem on wacom tablet?
[17:03] <MrObvious> cannonball: Ahh never heard of egrep.
[17:03] <JDorfler> I just wanted to get on here and thank everyone that's brought us Ubuntu.  Thank you.  I don't see much thank yous on the forums.
[17:03] <MrObvious> !real | kingrat76
[17:03] <ubotu> kingrat76: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:03] <MrObvious> Grr.
[17:03] <MrObvious> !ask | kingrat76
[17:03] <ubotu> kingrat76: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:03] <kingrat76> ok :)
[17:03] <MrObvious> frojnd: On my system it's root         6  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   Jan20   0:00 [migration/1]
[17:03] <Webu> Any suggestions how to automatically keep computer's clock syncronized (I don't have a GUI)?
[17:03] <DRebellion> JDorfler: awww. bless 'im. :P
[17:04] <MrObvious> Webu: There is a way to install a time client but I forget what it's called. Grr my brain lol.
[17:04] <adrock358> adrock@hostname:~$ CD/documents
[17:04] <adrock358> bash: CD/documents: No such file or director
[17:04] <frojnd> MrObvious, I understand but I only have to get the exact name :)
[17:04] <JDorfler> Seriously, what I want to know, is why the same OSS that I use in WinXP runs faster and more stable in Ubuntu?
[17:04] <cannonball> MrObvious: egrep is much the same as grep, but the e means that it supports extended regex operations.  So anytime I start using beginning of line or things like that, I just use egrep instead of grep.  But that command would have worked just fine with grep.
[17:04] <Webu> MrObvious, hmm ok, i'll try to look for it :)
[17:04] <JDorfler> You guys did a great job and I am enjoying my PC a lot more than I ever have with XP
[17:04] <jrib> adrock358: linux is case-sensitive, so you probably want something like: cd Documents
[17:05] <DRebellion> JDorfler: because the linux kernel is way more efficient than NT
[17:05] <neverblue> good to hear JDorfler
[17:05] <chazco> Hi... my USB keyboard doesnt always work with Ubuntu unless I move it a different USB port (it doesnt matter which one it starts on and which one it ends on)... I think it may be being identified wrong... any ideas?
[17:05] <MrObvious> Webu: I think it's netd or something.
[17:05] <worthawholebean> For some reason my Firefox doesn't save the settings for any of my extensions... any way to fix this?
[17:05] <white_eagle> JDorfler, because open source + open source works better
[17:05] <jrib> !cli > adrock358 (read the private message from ubotu)
[17:06] <white_eagle> the terminal is the best thing in ubuntu
[17:06] <white_eagle> :)
[17:06] <white_eagle> the easiest way to install software
[17:06] <praveen_> my keyboard and mouse is not working in Ubuntu
[17:06] <white_eagle> ps/2 or?
[17:06] <jrib> worthawholebean: what does the following return: find ~/.mozilla ! -user $USER
[17:06] <IdleOne> !info ntp | Webu
[17:06] <ubotu> webu: ntp (source: ntp): Network Time Protocol daemon and utility programs. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2.4p0+dfsg-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 423 kB, installed size 1064 kB
[17:06] <MrObvious> worthawholebean: Permissions maybe? Maybe you need to change it.
[17:06] <Webu> Oo that's ti!
[17:06] <kingrat76> i noticed big cpu usage when i simply move around my pen (a wacom graphire usb) on gimp...ubuntu 7.10
[17:06] <white_eagle> yeah I just downloaded it IdleOne
[17:06] <neverblue> praveen_, what type/brand, is it a new install ? have you plugged the devices in and reset ?
[17:06] <osfameron> is there an equivalent of linux-on-laptops for desktops?
[17:07] <white_eagle> I wanted to sync
[17:07] <white_eagle> :)
[17:07] <MrObvious> IdleOne: That's it! Yay.
[17:07] <worthawholebean> jrib: nothing
[17:07] <neverblue> !enter | white_eagle
[17:07] <ubotu> white_eagle: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:07] <Webu> Thanks.
[17:07] <osfameron> I'm thinking of getting an HP slimline s3240, and would like to see how well its hardware is supported on ubuntu
[17:07] <MrObvious> IdleOne: Webu: Now I remember, Network Time Protocol. lol
[17:07] <simion314> hi, what application can i use for recording my desmtop for making video tutorials?
[17:07] <IdleOne> white_eagle: that will sync time also
[17:07] <Webu> Hehe :D
[17:07]  * MrObvious doesn't like mornings
[17:07] <JDorfler> Thanks a lot guys, even my stupid questions are answered quickly.  Keep up the good work.  I can't contribute with software development, but I will push Ubuntu heavily with everyone I know.
[17:07] <JDorfler> Take care.
[17:07] <praveen_> neverblue, Lenovo Y500 laptop
[17:08] <Elevator_Hazard> So my USB Audio device suddenly decided yesterday it wanted to work perfectly...
[17:08] <white_eagle> JDorfler, you can if you know another language, help in translating
[17:08] <white_eagle> :)
[17:08] <jrib> !screencasts > simion314 (read the private message from ubotu)
[17:08] <neverblue> praveen_, so your laptop's touchpad and keypad are not working ? (answer the other question I asked as well please)
[17:08] <IdleOne> Elevator_Hazard: gotta love that!
[17:08] <white_eagle> oh, he just quit
[17:08] <neverblue> !enter > white_eagle
[17:08] <Elevator_Hazard> IdleOne: I'm not convinced its fixed, more of a gamble when I turn on the computer :D
[17:08] <DRebellion> !hcl > osfameron (this pm will help maybe?)
[17:09] <MrObvious> Elevator_Hazard: Cool beans.
[17:09] <IdleOne> Elevator_Hazard: so it adds to the excitement of Ubuntu :)
[17:09] <jrib> worthawholebean: what exactly is saved?  What exactly is not saved?
[17:09] <praveen_> neverblue, ya its a new installed version of Ubuntu7.10
[17:09] <osfameron> DRebellion: thanks, that's a start
[17:09] <MrObvious> Whoa Russian! lol
[17:09] <worthawholebean> jrib, most preferences are saved for the session but disappear with a new session.
[17:09] <Elevator_Hazard> IdleOne: Oh yea it does, sound on flash also decided to work so I'm having a solo party over here listening to music.
[17:10] <osfameron> DRebellion: I quite like the case studies in the linux-on-laptops linked blogs postings, but that's useful, yes
[17:10] <jrib> worthawholebean: give a specific example of something
[17:10] <MrObvious> Off-topic news for RIAA haters: http://www.pronetworks.org/index.php/tag/hacker
[17:10] <MrObvious> :)
[17:10] <neverblue> praveen_, did you check the forums, you might want to see if others with the same device has similar issues
[17:10] <DRebellion> MrObvious: heh, heard about that on slashdot.org . Shame they put it back up :(
[17:10] <white_eagle> !appdb
[17:10] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[17:10] <worthawholebean> jrib, I use an extension called FoxGame which has a bunch of checkbutton prefs, and none of them get saved
[17:10] <bltzfsck> when i try to set vga=791 in my menu.lst, i get no consoles at all.  anybody know why that might be?
[17:11] <DRebellion> !msgthebot | white_eagle
[17:11] <ubotu> white_eagle: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[17:11] <CountX> having an issue with installing ubuntu on my laptop
[17:11] <anon11> I have the JDK and JRE running fine, but Firefox is still asking for plugins, which I can't seem to get without reinstalling both.
[17:11] <praveen_> neverblue,  k i ll check and come back
[17:11] <MrObvious> CountX: Say it, don't spray it.
[17:11] <bltzfsck> it's worked in the past when i was running plain vanilla debain
[17:11] <worthawholebean> Permissions all look fine.
[17:11] <DRebellion> CountX: what and you want us to guess?
[17:11] <jrib> worthawholebean: ok, and does any other extension save its preferences?
[17:11] <CountX> I installed it last night, but when i restarted for some updates it left me at a tty with an error
[17:11] <Elevator_Hazard> MrObvious: heheh you'd think they'd be more secure than that.
[17:11] <DRebellion> CountX: error: ______
[17:12] <worthawholebean> jrib, oh wait, yes they do
[17:12] <worthawholebean> *facepalm*
[17:12] <CountX> the kernel didnt update, so i could revert back to anything, "fsck failed drive is read-only"
[17:12]  * bltzfsck loves that tight, tiny little console font
[17:12] <alexvd_> Anyone run intel graphics card with Compiz
[17:12] <DRebellion> !anyone | alexvd_
[17:12] <ubotu> alexvd_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[17:13] <noodlesgc> alexvd yeah
[17:13] <MrObvious> CountX: Try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade if you can get to a terminal and see if that fixes it.
[17:13] <CountX> anyways thats not why i am here, i want to know what would be the best way to partition 2 separate 100gb sata drives to run windoze and ubuntu
[17:13] <alanbshepard70> is there a way to force ubuntu to open each window as the same size that it was when it was closed? Also can I force each window to always open a certain size no matter what size it last was? I know I can't do both at the same time but I want to try both and see which is less annoying to me.
[17:13] <alexvd_> Ok I have intel 855Gm I ran compiz no problems then enabled dual screens
[17:13] <bcardarella> Is there a way to diagnose LiveCD issues? It seems that when X tries to load the LiveCD fails. I've got a brand new laptop. Intel Quad Core 2, 4 GBs RAM, Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX. I'm guesisng it is the Nvidia card that is hold this up.
[17:13] <abhi> when I trun on my cable modem after booting, I am not able to access net But if I turn on the modem during or before booting I am able to access the net. how to solve this problem?
[17:13] <DRebellion> !dualboot > CountX (read the pm from ubotu)
[17:13] <CountX> MrObvious: and no terminal access at the time
[17:13] <kaminix^>  How do I solve this again? Done it before, but do not remember what was wrong:
[17:13] <kaminix^> e2fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)     mybook: recovering journal     fsck.ext3: unable to set superblock flags on mybook
[17:14] <haxality> hi, I'm unable to ping a windows computer on my network from my xubuntu computer
[17:14]  * bltzfsck rephrases the question to why don't i get a console when vga=791 is set in menu.lst?
[17:14] <neverblue> bcardarella, you can check the CD, you are prompted with that option when it loads
[17:14] <erawfish> haxality: that is normal. pretty much every windows xp sp2 and later uses a firewall that blocks incoming pings
[17:14] <crdlb> alexvd_: an i855 isn't nearly powerful enough to drive compiz on two screens, and there's a hardware limit holding you to 2048x2048 in total resolution
[17:14] <MrObvious> CountX: There should be a failsafe option on booting from Grub I think when you push ESC. It should load a root terminal then. What exactly is the error?
[17:14] <alexvd_> I ran into the Max texture size limit so I tried the VideoRAM option.  This cauzed a third of the screen to be black.  I cannot run compiz now normally. I removed the option for VideoRAm in Xorg. I also see that i initially fail the texture_pixmap
[17:15] <haxality> really? I could ping it like a week ago...
[17:15] <DRebellion> erawfish: haxality: mine doesn't
[17:15] <chazco> Will getting a USB->PS2 adapter fix the keyboard issue?
[17:15] <erawfish> DRebellion: then you don#t use a firewall, the firewall which is on by default
[17:15] <alexvd_> crrlb: Yes I learned that
[17:15] <CountX> DRebellion: can you give me a more specific answer
[17:15] <haxality> so how did it arbitrarily stop working, if it's not the firewall causing the problem
[17:15] <DRebellion> erawfish: oh. of course, i'm probably have windows firewall turned off cause i use a different one.
[17:16] <haxality> I use the windows firewall and it doesn't block incoming pings from the LAN
[17:16] <noodlesgc> alexvd so are you still trying to use dual screens or is your single screen messes up?
[17:16] <haxality> only from the internet cloud
[17:16] <erawfish> haxality: can your windows ping your ubuntu?
[17:16] <haxality> sec
[17:16] <[-Haza-Nix-]_> Afternoon folks, How might i go about creating a drop down menu on my task bar that list a selection of applications of my choice?
[17:16] <alexvd_> crdlb: yes I know that i run into the total 2048 limit.  However that is not my issue.  My issue is now whenever I run Compiz i get a third of the screen chopped off vertically
[17:16] <[-Haza-Nix-]_> For windows i would make a folder with all my shortcuts in it then right click the taskbar -> toolbars -> new toolbar and then point to thew shortcuts folder
[17:16] <erawfish> haxality: it does block all pings
[17:16] <haxality> yes
[17:16] <cubesis> what is the name of flash player 9 in your plugins folder????
[17:16] <CountX> DRebellion: let me explain, i have tried many times in the past to get ubuntu to boot correctly on my laptop, all hard drive issues, i just want to know what would make ubuntu the most reliable to boot, I have a laptop with 2 internal 100gb sata HDD's
[17:16] <haxality> erawfish, so how was I pinging it before, then?
[17:16] <crdlb> alexvd_: you only see the top left 640x480?
[17:16] <bcardarella> neverblue: I'll give that a try
[17:16] <kane77> is there a program that can change the contrast/brightness of a laptop display?
[17:17] <alexvd_> noodlesgc: I know i cant run compiz dual.  Just trying to get it working in 1024x768 normally again
[17:17] <erawfish> haxality: I doN#t know or care (this is not ##windows)
[17:17] <haxality> sigh..
[17:17] <erawfish> but windows firewall blocks all pings by default.
[17:17] <cubesis> yep i can't run compiz dual either
[17:17] <anon11> What's the maximum recommended rate of transfer across a null modem cable?
[17:17] <haxality> so this isn't ##windows, but you are in fact the absolute authority on windows features?
[17:17] <alexvd_> crdlb:  No I have the 1024x768 screen but the right portion is black. I can see click on items behind it
[17:17] <cubesis> could someone with flash9 tell me what the name of the plugin is..im trying to delete it but can't see it in my plugins folder
[17:18] <DRebellion> anon11: i recommend as fast as possible ;)
[17:18] <noodlesgc> alexvd you could try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" you will lose monitor settings
[17:18] <nlindblad> anon11: you mean transfer speed?
[17:18] <anon11> Aye.
[17:18] <Matic`Makovec> Is there a way to check why a certain process is taking so much CPU?
[17:18] <crdlb> alexvd_: I mean what is the size of the part of the screen you can *see* ?
[17:18] <Linuxishawt> blah!
[17:18] <haxality> just saying.
[17:18] <DRebellion> Matic`Makovec: use the command 'top'
[17:18] <crdlb> alexvd_: is it about 640x480 ?
[17:18] <alexvd_> crdlb: I guess that is probably close to that
[17:18] <zoom> can we update compressed archives please ?
[17:18] <cubesis> matic: system - admin - system monitor
[17:18] <alexvd_> crdlb: no way to measure
[17:19] <Matic`Makovec> DRebellion, I only saw there that it uses that much. I wonder why.
[17:19] <wyclif> DRebellion: top -cs
[17:19] <crdlb> alexvd_: ok then I know what happened, open ccsm and go to General Options > Display Settings, and check Detect Outputs
[17:19] <Matic`Makovec> I know what top does and so on. My question is what for.
[17:19] <anon11> DrRebellion, nlindblad: Well, I need to set a transfer rate, and I'm curious as to how high I can go without causing confusion on the other end.
[17:19] <alexvd_> crdlb: Ok doing that now
[17:19] <erawfish> anon11: fastest is generally 115200 bits/s
[17:19] <Linuxishawt> 74-131-141-126.
[17:19] <kingrat76> Hi, i noticed big cpu usage when i simply move around my pen (a wacom graphire usb) on gimp 2.4.0rc3- and ubuntu 7.10, can someone help me pls?
[17:19] <Linuxishawt> nmap it!
[17:19] <erawfish> RS422 could go higher but that's not on PCs
[17:19] <CountX> swap partitions are logical right?
[17:19] <CountX> not primary?
[17:19] <flukierdonut> is there any mplayer or vlc support for HD AVIs ?
[17:19] <anon11> Thanks, erawfish.
[17:20] <nlindblad> anon11: since it's serial it shouldn't be too picky
[17:20] <CountX> flukierdonut: what codec/
[17:20] <nlindblad> anon11: can you set any rate you want or are there any given rates to choose from?
[17:20] <DRebellion> flukierdonut: don't see why not. give it a spin and see what happens.
[17:20] <flukierdonut> CountX, well when i try to play it in mplayer it says its and HD format and it cant play it.. its an avi file
[17:21] <agd5f> are there any known issues with hardy on AMD64?  Every image I've tried panics on boot
[17:21] <Linuxishawt> ubuntu is wack.
[17:21] <alexvd_> crdlb: hot diggity dam that worked.  You guys dont suck!!!!
[17:21] <anon11> nlindblad: Any rate I want, but I assume there's some kind of maximum recommended speed.
[17:21] <neverblue> Linuxishawt, did you need help with something ?
[17:22] <Linuxishawt> No, i'm fine
[17:22] <Starnestommy> agd5f: try hitting F6 at the cd boot prompt, then replace "quiet splash" in the text box with "nosplash noacpi noapic"
[17:22] <Linuxishawt> thanks however
[17:22] <eugman> ght?
[17:22] <eugman> I can do a server install with no mouse right
[17:22] <tonsofpcs> sure
[17:22] <Linuxishawt> eugman you can
[17:22] <neverblue> Linuxishawt, why u posting IPs in the channel, having an issue with your own ?
[17:22] <eugman> ok thought so, jsut checking
[17:22] <Linuxishawt> Not really
[17:22] <nlindblad> anon11: the only idea I have is testing different speeds and watch how well it works
[17:22] <DRebellion> anon11: rate of the slowest netork card/switch/router
[17:23] <tonsofpcs> you can do a server install with no server too...
[17:23] <alexvd_> crdlb: should I be concerned that when running compiz from terminal I see it fails the check for texture_from_pixmap and the tries with indirect rendering.  Isnt indirect rendering slower?
[17:23] <neverblue> Linuxishawt, what did you need then ?
[17:23] <Linuxishawt> nothing, just checking this out
[17:23] <crdlb> alexvd_: it's accelerated indirect rendering (AIGLX), completely normal
[17:23] <Linuxishawt> i don't like the fact i can't select which packages I want during install
[17:24] <alexvd_> crdlb: thanks again
[17:24] <ShadowAp3x> lawl @ chu
[17:24] <jrib> !minimal | Linuxishawt
[17:24] <ubotu> Linuxishawt: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[17:24] <profanephobia> CountX, any ideas?
[17:24] <ShadowAp3x> dude, you got owned
[17:24] <agd5f> Starnestommy: no dice
[17:24] <ShadowAp3x> nice, jrib
[17:24] <Linuxishawt> what if I don't have network support during install?
[17:24] <Linuxishawt> but thanks for the minial tip
[17:24] <Linuxishawt> i will use it
[17:25] <Linuxishawt> it has always bothered me
[17:25] <WindowSmasher> Hello all
[17:25] <alexvd_> crdlb: I am running awn for dock.  Do you know how to enable the hack to speed up the hide?
[17:25] <crdlb> alexvd_: I don't, there's an #awn channel on freenode though
[17:25] <Webu> Another question, i've got a headless remote server with dynamic IP-address which may sometimes change, is there a good way to somehow make the server check it's own IP-address and send it somewhere, since if it's headless i have no idea which IP it'll get?
[17:25] <alexvd_> crdlb: heading over cool bean
[17:26] <zoom> how can i update an archive with the -u option i have already a compressed archive is it possible please ?
[17:26] <Linuxishawt> webu, dhcp on your lan, or via your ISP?
[17:26] <zoom> tar -u
[17:26] <Webu> Linuxishawt, ISP.
[17:26]  * WindowSmasher doesn't want to be at work.
[17:26] <Breakage> hi just formated to xubuntu from ubuntu to and im trying to set fonts like gnome.. on gnome I had a res of 1280x1024 with 10px font and 80dpi, but on xubuntu I use the same res but cant set font to 80dpi. I've tried in "~/.config/Xft.xrdb" by adding "Xft.dpi: 80" but it doesn't change the font size at all. My fonts and theme is default on 1280x1024 atm with nvidia card. Help please :))
[17:26] <Linuxishawt> why not do a dynamic dns
[17:26] <Linuxishawt> no-ip.org
[17:26] <Linuxishawt> they have native linux clients
[17:26] <neverblue> !enter > Linuxishawt
[17:26] <bkar> zoom archive like ar uses -u option for updates, only updates changed contents
[17:26] <DRebellion> Webu: you could use dynamic dns. that way it would send its ip to the service provider and they would map their dns entries accordingly.
[17:27] <Webu> Oo okey, sounds good.
[17:27] <Cpudan80> Is there a DynDNS client for Ubuntu ?
[17:27] <Cpudan80> I usually run it through my router --- so I don't even know...
[17:27] <bkar> Cpudan80-> I believe they do
[17:28] <Cpudan80> That's good to know
[17:28] <Linuxishawt> they have a deb -- http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/n/no-ip/
[17:28] <zoom> bkar, tar -vzu zoom.tar.gz /home/zoom/ is it good ?
[17:28] <Cpudan80> Thats the no-ip client, no-ip hasn't given me good luck for some reason
[17:28] <ally_xoxoo> hey Cpudan80: im having a problem watching a .avi file
[17:28] <ally_xoxoo> any ideas?
[17:28] <Cpudan80> ally_xoxoo: Add the restricted-extras
[17:28] <Webu> Actually i have the same feature in my router as well, but since i'm using bridged port for my headless server i think i can't use it.
[17:29] <ally_xoxoo> i did cpudan80
[17:29] <ally_xoxoo> i also did "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[17:29] <bkar> zoom you can test it, create a small dir, fill it with files, tar it, add another file,  tar it again, and then uncompress both tar files to see if there is a difference....prove this to yourself
[17:29] <bcardarella> Is there a way to install ubuntu without loading X on the LiveCD?
[17:29] <Cpudan80> Webu: I would try the router way --- that's usually more reliable (ie. no computer needs to be turned on)
[17:29] <ally_xoxoo> my totem-gstreamer was able to play my mp3s and movies, but now it doesnt
[17:29] <ally_xoxoo> i removed and reinstalled
[17:29] <Pici> bcardarella: no.
[17:29] <zoom> ok thx
[17:30] <Cpudan80> ally_xoxoo: Ehhh ok, you probably need the fstreamer w32 codecs
[17:30] <zoom> i don t seems be good bkar
[17:30] <bltzfsck> there's nothing called "device manager" under my system/administration menu, but it's referenced on the ubuntu help website.  how can i get one?
[17:30] <ally_xoxoo> where can i get that Cpudan80
[17:30] <neverblue> bcardarella, the ALT. CD doesnt boot into a Live version, its all done at command line
[17:30] <ally_xoxoo> i have the libdvd codecs i think
[17:30] <Cpudan80> ally_xoxoo: looking up the name
[17:30] <Breakage> hi just formated to xubuntu from ubuntu to and im trying to set fonts like gnome.. on gnome I had a res of 1280x1024 with 10px font and 80dpi, but on xubuntu I use the same res but cant set font to 80dpi. I've tried in "~/.config/Xft.xrdb" by adding "Xft.dpi: 80" but it doesn't change the font size at all. My fonts and theme is default on 1280x1024 atm with nvidia card. Help please :)
[17:30] <bcardarella> neverblue: i read about that alt cd but all I can find is the daily alt build for Heron
[17:30] <Janner____> How can i get the user list so that i can see channels users,in Xchat, in ubuntu 7.10?
[17:30] <Cpudan80> ally_xoxoo: For whatever reason, the restricted extras package doesn't have all the stuff
[17:31] <neverblue> bcardarella, its out there
[17:31] <_moro_bana_> please help im on ubuntu, recently my processor has been giving me problems, it goes to 100% use and the system slows down ,sometimes comes to a halt, even when im running nothing
[17:31] <Cpudan80> ally_xoxoo: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[17:31] <ally_xoxoo> yeah i noticed that :P
[17:31] <ally_xoxoo> ok
[17:31] <ally_xoxoo> hold on
[17:31] <neverblue> Janner____, is it just xchat, or the gnome-chat ?
[17:31] <neverblue> !enter | ally_xoxoo
[17:31] <ubotu> ally_xoxoo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:31] <Webu> Cpudan80, i suppose it only works for the routing ports (NAT) where router itself requests an IP-address.
[17:31] <Janner____> xchat
[17:31] <Cpudan80> ally_xoxoo: Those are in medibuntu
[17:31] <Cpudan80> !medibuntu | ally_xoxoo
[17:31] <ubotu> ally_xoxoo: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[17:31] <bcardarella> neverblue: nm I found the alt
[17:31] <bltzfsck> is there really such a thing as "device manager"?
[17:31] <ally_xoxoo> cpudan80: i did medibuntu already
[17:32] <neverblue> Janner____, can you rephrase the question, or ask in #xchat ?
[17:32] <noodlesgc> _more_bana_ do you have beagle installed?
[17:32] <Cpudan80> ally_xoxoo: ok good, well then add that codec pac
[17:32] <Cpudan80> pack*
[17:32] <tummyacid> hello all, i have the same question thats on a million forums but none seem to give specific enough info to be applicable to my situation.  I am trying to boot a finished windows install on my Gusty system.  It is on /dev/hdc7 so something tells me the line every helpful forum post tells me to use, root(hd0,0) does not refer to the seventh partition on my secondary master drive.  Anyone know where i can get more info here?
[17:32] <_moro_bana_> please help im on ubuntu, recently my processor has been giving me problems, it goes to 100% use and the system slows down ,sometimes comes to a halt, even when im running nothing
[17:32] <bltzfsck> it might help me sort out my broken pci wireless card
[17:32] <DRebellion> !repeat | _moro_bana_
[17:32] <ubotu> _moro_bana_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[17:32] <Janner____> neverblue, my bad, its gnome-caht..
[17:32] <fradim> i've installed emerald but i want to go back to the default compiz/ubuntu window decorations. how do i do that?
[17:32] <Webu> Cpudan80, for bridged ports router doesn't see their IP or anything if i'm not wrong, so i have to use a Linux client.
[17:33] <WeDare> Hey guys,,, anyone else experiencing problems after update this morning?
[17:33] <noodlesgc> _moro_bana_ do you have beagle installed?
[17:33] <CrazyWulf> I'm trying to burn the Ubuntu iso onto another cd via Ubuntu.   I keep getting "there was an error writing to disc" no matter which speed I pick.   On the upper right corner of the .iso icon it looked like there's a padlock ......
[17:33] <Cpudan80> Webu: oh ok
[17:33] <neverblue> Janner____, sudo aptitude install xchat
[17:33] <WeDare> my soundcard evidently does not work anymore
[17:33] <_moro_bana_> noodlesgc: no i dont
[17:33] <sp0ro> Is SAMBA the easiest way to network a Windows computer and a Linux box(as a file sharing server)?
[17:33] <_moro_bana_> i had automatix but removed it
[17:33] <wyclif> _moro_bana_: sounds like a runaway process.  Identify it by running top -cs in a terminal
[17:33] <Cpudan80> ally_xoxoo: add ffmpeg too
[17:33] <|REM|> WeDare: I saw your message just as my updates were finishing
[17:33] <_moro_bana_> wyclif: ok
[17:34] <wyclif> _moro_bana_: do NOT run malicious scripts like Automatix!
[17:34] <hotchick> maybe that'll get me some attention
[17:34] <|REM|> WeDare: I'm afraid to reboot now
[17:34] <WeDare> lol
[17:34] <sp0ro> Currently my Windows box does not recognize my Linux box, but my Linux box sees my Windows box fine. This is why I am asking if SAMBA would solve the problem.
[17:34] <|REM|> :)
[17:34] <noodlesgc> _moro_bana_ go to System->Preferences->Indexing Preferences see if indexing is checked
[17:34] <neverblue> sp0ro, yes, you want to setup samba
[17:34] <Breakage> hi just formated to xubuntu from ubuntu to and im trying to set fonts like gnome.. on gnome I had a res of 1280x1024 with 10px font and 80dpi, but on xubuntu I use the same res but cant set font to 80dpi. I've tried in "~/.config/Xft.xrdb" by adding "Xft.dpi: 80" but it doesn't change the font size at all. My fonts and theme is default on 1280x1024 atm with nvidia card. Help please :)
[17:34] <neverblue> !samba > sp0ro
[17:34] <WeDare> also something in samba is funky too, I had to disable the shares to get gnome to boot within 3 minutes after timeouts
[17:34] <sp0ro> neverblue: Alright thanks.
[17:35] <_moro_bana_> noodlesgc: its checked
[17:35] <tummyacid> sp0ro: SAMBE may seem the easiest, but due to windows having so many strange networking policies, i find it orders of magnetude easier to use either FTP or SCP if you can get the server on the windows machine
[17:35] <bastid_raZor> sp0ro:: in windows you'll have to find a program that can read ext3 format. i'm not sure what the application is but there is a windows app that does this
[17:35] <DIL_> tummyacid, hda= 1st drive hdb=2nd drive hdc=3rddrive the #=partition
[17:35] <CrazyWulf> What does a padlock icon next to .iso icon mean?
[17:35] <bltzfsck> guess not
[17:35] <_moro_bana_> wyclif: i removed it after i was told
[17:35] <Jed1> sp0ro  SAMBA or FTP!
[17:35] <noodlesgc> _moro_bana_ if removing automatix doesn't fix your problem, uncheck indexing
[17:35] <WeDare> I was hoping someone already knew a fix for my sound issue
[17:35] <bastid_raZor> CrazyWulf:: probably that you don't have permission to use it.
[17:35] <wyclif> _moro_bana_ i would recommend a clean reinstall.  automatix will sometimes prevent you from booting your system, and will destabilize it
[17:36] <WeDare> I already tried re-installing everything alsa
[17:36] <_moro_bana_> noodlesgc: what does indexing do
[17:36] <CrazyWulf> Hmm
[17:36] <DIL_> tummyacid, hda= 1st drive (0,0) hdb=2nd drive(0,1) hdc=3rddrive(1,0) the #=partition
[17:36] <DRebellion> CrazyWulf: i think its to do with file permissions. You probably don't have permissions to write or read or something like that.
[17:36] <WeDare> and the linux sound stuff
[17:36] <fradim> i've installed emerald but i want to go back to the default compiz/ubuntu window decorations. how do i do that? is there a setting somewhere that removes the use of emerald?
[17:36] <WeDare> but no luck
[17:36] <neverblue> WeDare, can you please post your question clearly on one line only, thanks
[17:36] <Paddy_EIRE> !enter | WeDare
[17:36] <ubotu> WeDare: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:36] <gcarrillo> if i installed the libdvdcss and libdvdread libraries, should i be able to playback dvds using totem with a gstreamer backend?
[17:36] <DIL_> tummyacid, hda= 1st drive (0,0) hdb=2nd drive(0,1) hdc=3rddrive(1,0) the #=partition depending on the channel they are on of course
[17:36] <Janner__> neverblue, ty
[17:36] <neverblue> !enter > WeDare
[17:36] <simion314_> hi, i want an application for recoding the screen for video tutorials, any suggestions?
[17:36] <neverblue> Janner__, np
[17:36] <tummyacid> DIL_ : well i dont have a first harddrive then, only one harddrive that linux recognizes as /dev/hdc  what is the equivelent hd(x,y) for hdc ahh ty
[17:37] <gcarrillo> because i still don't get playback
[17:37] <Linuxishawt> !help
[17:37] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[17:37] <tummyacid> kk im going to reboot and try with the correct harddrive names
[17:37] <DRebellion> !msgthebot | Linuxishawt
[17:37] <ubotu> Linuxishawt: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[17:37] <tummyacid> anyone have any other tips for booting winxp from the seventh partition?
[17:37] <_moro_bana_> !patience
[17:37] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[17:38] <jamie_> my cd drives have completely disappeared from /dev/ is this a known issue with any of the auto updates?
[17:38] <neverblue> jamie_, not that I have heard
[17:38] <bastid_raZor> tummyacid:: which partition it is on doesn't matter. as long as grub knows where it is.. you are fine
[17:38] <_moro_bana_> !patience | _moro_bana_
[17:38] <Keigo-kun> Can't reach my newly installed apache2 server by writing localhost in the URL bar.. what is wrong it with? :/
[17:38] <tummyacid> jamie_ : could be a failing power supply
[17:39] <tummyacid> okie, ty for the help all brb
[17:39] <jamie_> well the drives still work under windows xp
[17:39] <Shadow6363> is there a website that shows what options certain packages were compiled with, in my case apache on gutsy?
[17:39] <Jed1> Keigo-kun, try http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[17:40] <Linuxishawt> keigo-kun, are you sitting on the same machine you just installed apache on? is the service running?
[17:40] <wyclif>    4008  1068 pts/2    S+   Jan20   0:00 screen
[17:41] <jamie_> neverblue:  i see two generic devices, sg0 and sg1, is it possible that somehow my drives are now being seen as generic?
[17:41] <Keigo-kun> Jed1: Same problem.
[17:41] <Ar-ras> how can i create my own splash.rle?
[17:41] <Jed1> Keigo-kun  - ok.. have you start the service?
[17:41] <Keigo-kun> Linuxishawt: Yes, same computer and yes, I think apache2 is running, i didn't get an error message when running apache2 start
[17:42] <WeDare> Does anyone have any Idea how to fix issues with an intel soundcard that does not seem to be recognized that worked fine out of the box before but  this morning after the update quit working, and is now reporting that no devices found?
[17:42] <Cpudan80> Keigo-kun: Have you setup a firewall of some kind on the computer?
[17:42] <Keigo-kun> Cpudan80: Well, unless Ubuntu comes with one on by default, just my router.
[17:42] <DRebellion> WeDare: checked the command 'dmesg' ?
[17:42] <neverblue> jamie_, no idea
[17:42] <u007-1> bah.. installed glib2.8, now my nautilus cannot open
[17:42] <Cpudan80> Keigo-kun: Ok, so no....
[17:42] <FonMax> WeDare: reinstall ALSA
[17:43] <WeDare> already did that
[17:43] <nicolah> what does "upstream" mean relating to bugs or to software versions ? thanks
[17:43] <neverblue> WeDare, do you see the device listed when you run the 'lspci' command ?
[17:43] <FonMax> version of ALSA?
[17:43] <jamie_> WeDare: I remember seeing something about that in the forums, it is around the known issues with gutsy sticky thread
[17:43] <Cpudan80> Keigo-kun: try seeing if apache is working ---- ps ax | grep apache
[17:43] <Jed1> Keigo-kun ... hm...   try ps aux | grep apache to check that the service is running..
[17:43] <Cpudan80> Keigo-kun: Type that at a terminal window, you should have least one thing going
[17:44] <Keigo-kun> I got 4 things
[17:44] <Ar-ras> so
[17:44] <Keigo-kun> apache2 -k start things
[17:44] <Cpudan80> I have
[17:44] <Ar-ras> does somebody know how to create own splash.rle?
[17:44] <WeDare> 00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[17:44] <Cpudan80> Keigo-kun: OK, so it is running.... that's good
[17:44] <WeDare> not intel nvidia doh!
[17:44] <Cpudan80> Keigo-kun: Have you messed with the config at all?
[17:44] <jamie_> Anyone have any idea how to go about diagnosing missing cd drives in /dev/?
[17:44] <Jed1> Keigo-kun  ok... sounds weird...
[17:44] <neverblue> WeDare, I would take that previous suggestion, try the forums
[17:45] <genii> !intelhda
[17:45] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[17:45] <Keigo-kun> Cpudan80: Yes. I got an error message the first time I started it and guesses that was why it didn't work, so I added ServerName localhost to the apache2.conf file
[17:45] <tummyacid> ok im typing "root (hd1,0) <enter> makeactive <enter> chainloader +1 <enter>" and i get "Error 13: invalid or unsupported executable format"  searching the error now anyone have an experiance with this?
[17:46] <Cpudan80> Keigo-kun: Oh ok --- I think you messed it up lol
[17:46] <kernl> erm, anybody knows how to make the login screen go back to default? i had enlighment17 installed with a login screen, but now don't have a way to change it back
[17:46] <Cpudan80> Keigo-kun: Hang on and I'll paste my config file
[17:46] <bastid_raZor> !usplash > Ar-ras
[17:46] <Keigo-kun> Cpudan80: No, the server didn't work before I added that either
[17:46] <Keigo-kun> Cpudan80: And I deleted the line now, so it's identical to when I installed it
[17:47] <Cpudan80> Keigo-kun: Ok ---- did you install it by following the lamp instructions on Ubuntu's howto?
[17:47] <chronic1> About the flash install....i got it working by doing a manual install.  I think the problem is that the install is using a wrong MD5 hash when verifying the tarball.
[17:47] <Keigo-kun> Cpudan80: No, i followed this: http://joeabiraad.com/linuxunix/installing-lamp-on-ubuntu-710-linuxapachemysqlphp/100
[17:48] <mous16> hi to all. Someone know a program to convvert from wma to mp3 without losing metadata?
[17:48] <Cpudan80> Keigo-kun: That one looks fair enough --- what happens when you do http://localhost ?
[17:48] <Keigo-kun> Cpudan80: It loads for ages, then I get a "timed out" error
[17:49] <jamie_> mous16: you really don't want to transcode file type like that, the resulting files are going to sound horrible.
[17:49] <Cpudan80> Keigo-kun: Paste your error log to pastebin --- the error log is at /var/log/apache2/error.log
[17:49] <genii> Keigo-kun: Does it respond to the ip of your box?eg: for a common lan IP:    http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[17:49] <darx> hi folks how can i find the version of fglrx that is installed in my system?
[17:49] <darx> :-
[17:50] <Ttech> fglrx --version?
[17:50] <mous16> jamie_:? alsa with a "windows" converter?
[17:50] <misslecommander> if while running a Gnome Theme, you remove the installation from Synaptic, that mess things up ? freeze, panels disappear, desktop gone ?
[17:50] <darx> Ttech: there is no command called fglrx
[17:50] <DRebellion> misslecommander: remove what installation from synaptic?
[17:50] <Timon_Crazy> bbl
[17:51] <VOiCi|Work> Hi, I plugged my headphones into that new laptop i got at work (ubuntu)(toshiba), I get sound both from speakers and from headphones, i want to only get one of them, like when my headphones are plugged, i get sound in them, when not, i get sound from speakers, I tried alsamixer but cannot seems to be able to do anything, anybody who knows more than me could help?
[17:51] <Keigo-kun> Cpudan80: http://pastebin.com/d6fb34e6c
[17:51] <bastid_raZor> misslecommander:: heh, you killed something?
[17:51] <jamie_> mous16: you might want to try the program sound converter, its under synaptic package maanger
[17:51] <jamie_> mous16: i'm not following you
[17:51] <mous16> jamie_: also, not alsa!
[17:51] <Cpudan80> Keigo-kun: That's uneventful
[17:51] <Keigo-kun> genii: No, it does not respond to the LAN IP either
[17:51] <Cpudan80> genii: Take a look at that error log he posted --- nothing real interesting
[17:51] <misslecommander> DRebellion: i had a Gnome theme, or some theme going on, and i removed Gmome-Thems from SPM, since then my panels disappear, and alot of funky things go on with GUI
[17:52] <xomp> hey guys, I'm wanting to find/use a dark theme for ubuntu and I'm browsing around on gnome-look.org. Is the built in theme thingy called Metacity for Gutsy?
[17:52] <bastid_raZor> VOiCi|Work:: from what i've heard in this channel that is a known bug that has yet to be fixed. although i could be wrong. it may have been fixed. possibly check the forums for the fix?
[17:52] <genii> darx:apt-cache policy xorg-driver-fglrx             the part beginning something like 7.0.1-8.73   shows it is 8.37 on mine for instance
[17:52] <Keigo-kun> Cpudan80: I get an error when I start apache2, when ServerName is not in the apache2.conf
[17:52] <genii> *7.1.0-8.37      rather
[17:52] <VOiCi|Work> ok bastid_raZor , ill take a look at it, thanks for the info
[17:52] <DRebellion> xomp: metacity is a windows manager. i don't think ubuntu uses it.
[17:52] <misslecommander> bastid_raZor: killed ? you could say that. i killed  Gnome :)
[17:52] <jamie_> mous16: yeah, wma and mp3s and most type of music files are compressed with a losey compression, which means when you go from one format to the next it information is lost and files begin to sound worse
[17:52] <Cpudan80> Keigo-kun: That's ok --- then it just defaults to localhost
[17:52] <bastid_raZor> Keigo-kun:: i get that same error. it doesn't affect anything.
[17:53] <genii> Keigo-kun: Looks like you need to specify in /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[17:53] <Keigo-kun> Cpudan80: Actually, it defaults to <IP_ADDRESS> for me for some reason.
[17:53] <jamie_> mous16: but i am an audio nerd with 300 dollar speakers, so you you might not care as much as i do :)
[17:53] <bastid_raZor> misslecommander:: heh.. best of luck on that :\
[17:53] <misslecommander> well atleasy i got my wireless to connect at boot :)
[17:53] <mous16> jamie_: ok.. i'l remember it!
[17:53] <MrObvious> DRebellion: Wrong. Ubuntu uses it. It's part of Gnome.
[17:53] <Cpudan80> Keigo-kun: which is localhost :-)
[17:53] <xomp> DRebellion, ok, thanks. Do you know which of the many choices on this website I would need to browse then? I don't want to run emerald or any other thing like that to slow things down.
[17:53] <misslecommander> even if i freez every two mins
[17:53] <darx> genii: so is this newer or not? http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html
[17:53] <hasse_> hey, i have a thinkpad t61p, with a nvidia graphic card, and it's possible to run 1920x1200, but i cant get the drivers to do that, when i use nvidia-settings it can update to that resolution , but if i restart X it's back to low resolutioin
[17:53] <Keigo-kun> Cpudan80: Isn't local host <IP_ADDRESS>?
[17:53] <jamie_> mous16: but sound converter might be able to do what you want to do
[17:53] <Cpudan80> Keigo-kun: ehhhhhhh yeah........ whoops
[17:53] <CrazyWulf> Are there any applications that could would allow me to stream media to my X-Box 360 for Ubuntu?  I mean *really* stream, not trancode.   Trying to get rid of Windows all together :p
[17:53] <DRebellion> xomp: sorry, i was wrong. ubuntu uses it as part of gnome. thanks for clearing that up MrObvious
[17:54] <jamie_> mous16: also check out this wiki, http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Transcoding
[17:54] <MrObvious> hasse_: When you go to System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution is 1920x1200 there?
[17:54] <VOiCi|Work> bastid_raZor, fyi, i think there is a fix on that site, ill try it out
[17:54] <VOiCi|Work> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/116310
[17:54] <MrObvious> DRebellion: Now you know. :p
[17:54] <DRebellion> CrazyWulf: what does xbox support? maybe upnp?
[17:54] <Keigo-kun> Cpudan80: Maybe I should try opening a port? Sounds really odd, but it's the only thing I can think of
[17:54] <bastid_raZor> VOiCi|Work:: thanks i'll look too to get a refresher
[17:54] <psst> how can I get a list of software packages, versions and *licences* installed on my ubuntu machine?
[17:54] <hasse_> MrObvious, yes, but Hz = 0
[17:54] <xomp> DRebellion, and Mr. O thanks :)
[17:55] <misslecommander> bastid_raZor: i seriously will be sitting here, reading the text in xchat, and things just go awry, no intervention, thing just dies
[17:55] <Cpudan80> Keigo-kun: the router isn't blocking anything - as it is one level outside your LAN... you could try it - prob wouldn't do anything
[17:55] <MrObvious> hasse_: Hmm. You might have to play with xorg.conf. :\ I have 1920x1200 on my laptop with an 8600m and it works fine. If you want PM me and post your xorg.conf and I'll compare it to mine and we can get it working better.
[17:55] <genii> darx: If you want the latest one install the manual method shown here http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[17:55] <misslecommander> bastid_raZor: but, even through the flames of Gnome Hell, i survived
[17:55] <CrazyWulf> Not entirely sure.    On Windows you need Windows Media Player 11 installed and sharing the media for it to stream.   Was hoping there would be something that could emulate that to make the X-Box *think* I was running Windows with WMP11
[17:55] <bastid_raZor> misslecommander:: one too many apt-get removes?
[17:55]  * bastid_raZor laughs
[17:56] <JuJuBee> Anybody know of a good program to convert between pdf and odt or doc?
[17:56] <misslecommander> bastid_raZor: i dont use apt, i use SPM
[17:56] <leal> hello
[17:56] <jamie_> my cd drives have completely disappeared from /dev/ any ideas on how to fix/diagnose?
[17:56] <calc> JuJuBee: openoffice?
[17:56] <MrObvious> !hi | leal
[17:56] <ubotu> leal: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
 openoffice word?
[17:56] <DRebellion> CrazyWulf: you don't *need* WMP. that's just what microsoft tell you :P
[17:56] <MrObvious> jamie_: Check the cables.
[17:56] <leal> the totem is not working anymore, i did not make anything (even update packages).
there is an export to pdf option there on the file menu...
[17:56] <genii> Keigo-kun: Put into /etc/apache2/ports.conf   some line like:    Listen  <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[17:56] <Ashfire908> what's that option for tar to strip begining folders?
and you can save as doc
[17:57] <bastid_raZor> misslecommander:: both do the same apt-get apititude synaptic..
[17:57] <misslecommander> bastid_raZor: i had when i first installed, so prob the case. i was fresh of the tree then
[17:57] <DRebellion> !doesnt work | leal
[17:57] <ubotu> leal: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[17:57] <leal> it complains about the libdvdcss. but was working hours ago.
[17:57] <kingrat76> Hi, i noticed big cpu usage when i simply move around my pen (a wacom graphire usb) on gimp 2.4.0rc3- and ubuntu 7.10, can someone help me pls?
[17:57] <genii> Keigo-kun: Then do a restart by: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[17:57] <JuJuBee> I need to open a pdf (that I did not create) and want to convert to word or oo.
[17:57] <darx> genii: the automatic method doesn't work. I'll have to install it manually. I've enabled all the repos so I was wondering if the driver is already the latest. thus the question. forgive my english hope i'm making sense.
[17:57] <jamie_> MrObvious: actually they still work under my windows install
[17:57] <leal> sorry... sorry...
[17:57] <Jed1> Keigo-kun  did you solve your problem?
[17:57] <jamie_> MrObvious: so i am assuming the problem lies on the software side
[17:57] <leal> it does not read DVD's anymore.
[17:58] <MrObvious> jamie_: IDK them.
[17:58] <JuJuBee> When I try to open a pdf in open office, I get junk...
[17:58] <neverblue> !enter > leal
[17:58] <misslecommander> bastid_raZor: there was a time, where nothing would install, missing this missing that missin..bllbllb whatever, i just started clicking everything, and finally things started installing, so this install is botched i know
[17:58] <Breakage> Hi, I have enable the restricted driver for nvidia "nvidia-glx-new" and was wondering if I disable restricted drivers manager from startup will the "nvidia-glx-new" still update through update manager if there is a update and rdm is disabled??
[17:58] <genii> darx: If all your repos are current and you have done the apt-get update with no updates then yes you are running latest available from there for ubuntu.
[17:58] <Keigo-kun> genii: No effect.
[17:58] <Keigo-kun> Jed1: Nope.
[17:58] <tummyacid> ok i tried swapping hd0 and hd1 with the map (hd0) (hd1) and converse, but still same error, "Error 13: invalid or unsupported executable format"
[17:58] <misslecommander> bastid_raZor: its my test Frankenstien
[17:58] <jamie_> MrObvious: yeah i like to think of myself as fairly savvy but this one has me completely perplexed
[17:59] <genii> Keigo-kun: You put of course your own IP for <IP_ADDRESS> I would hope (the one the box is actually using)
[17:59] <kane77> is there a program that can change the contrast/brightness of a laptop display?
[17:59] <Keigo-kun> genii: Obviously.
[17:59] <darx> genii: does that mean the current fglrx driver in the repo supports aiglx?
[17:59] <knoppix> How do I know if I"ve booted from KNoppix CD OR MY knoppix Hard Drive?
[17:59] <misslecommander> bastid_raZor: really, i think its funny, i have to laugh every time it dies, just so i wont go insane
[17:59] <leal> any ideas?
[17:59] <mous16> jamie_: noway... sound converter and convertit loose all the metadatas, like  title or album.. other ideas?
[17:59] <darx> genii: i know that it is the latest from the repo but is it the latest that supports aiglx?
[17:59] <MrObvious> kane77: I just use the FN key + my adjustment keys on my laptop (up/down arrows) and it works fine.
[17:59] <neverblue> knoppix, this is a Ubuntu support channel, you might be a bit offtopic :)
[18:00] <misslecommander> bastid_raZor: i try to eliminate one by one, i fix things one by one, but the process is so slooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwww
[18:00] <hendrixski> I know there's an apt-get build-dep ... is there something like that for run-time dependencies?  like to get the dependencies for a package without installing the package itself?
[18:00] <Pici> knoppix: Perhaps try #knoppix
[18:00] <jamie_> mous16: nope sorry, that hydrogen audio site has some pretty good forums, you might be able to get answers there
[18:00] <rama_8086> i got a source code from internet but iam unable to compile that code...is there any best tutorial to know how to compile source code
[18:00] <kane77> MrObvious, yes but that only changes backlight, is there something for contrast?
[18:00] <misslecommander> my lag-o-meter is gone now
[18:00] <genii> Keigo-kun: OK. You can never tell, some people put in verbatim what they see instead of using some sense for replacing with their own setup
[18:00] <Pici> !compile > rama_8086 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !compile
[18:00] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[18:00] <MrObvious> kane77: If you have an NVidia card try nvidia-settings.
[18:00] <knoppix> Pici, noone in there
[18:01] <leal> maybe some know bug with totem?
[18:01] <Pici> knoppix: You arent going to get an answer here.  You could also try asking in ##linux
[18:01] <Zoem> after the most recent  xorg update, I can get to the login screen, but whenever I attempt to start a session from there, it resets to the login screen. Any suggestions?
[18:01] <hendrixski> I know there's an apt-get build-dep ... is there something like that for run-time dependencies?  like to get the dependencies for a package without installing the package itself?
[18:01] <|REM|> how can i check to see if someone has ssh'ed into my pc?
[18:01] <Jack_Sparrow> knoppix: They are the ones that support their distro... You need to be patient and wait for them
[18:01] <cdsmithus> I'm getting http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52908/ in a debug log in my home directory, pretty much constantly.  Any ideas?
[18:02] <hdevalence> I am having problems playing ogg theora videos. When I luanch with mplayer I get "[theora @ 0x88a96d8]Missing extradata!"
[18:02] <MrObvious> Wow it's getting ready to snow here today and I'm hearing them test the tornado sirens. lol
[18:02] <Jed1> Keigo-kun  Maybe you should look in the error log for some clues!  (/var/log/apache2/error.log)
[18:02] <Cpudan80> cdsmithus: Nautalis crashed, no big deal
[18:02] <Cpudan80> cdsmithus: Does it happen every time you start up?
[18:02] <Keigo-kun> Jed1: Allready did, there's no error in it.
[18:02] <Pici> hendrixski: I dont believe so, but you could always look and install from `apt-cache depends packagename`
[18:02] <cdsmithus> Cpudan80: Okay, but it's happening about once per millisecond?
[18:02] <misslecommander> MrObvious, when i choose to download Nvidia Settings package, it wants to remove nvidia-gtk-new, nvidia settings make up for it ? i am not using restricted driver anyhow
[18:02] <hendrixski> Pici, yeah, but I gotta script this
[18:02] <Jed1> Keigo-kun  ok :)
[18:02] <MrObvious> misslecommander: No clue.
[18:03] <Cpudan80> cdsmithus: well how long does it go on for?
[18:03] <misslecommander> i stopped using it, it was nice, but it seemed to make things worse
[18:03] <hasse_> MrObvious, do you write me pm ?
[18:03] <genii> darx: For aiglx You would need to check the revision notes at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Category:Releases
[18:03] <cdsmithus> Cpudan80: All the time.  If I delete it, it's a megabyte or so again by the time I can type 'ls'
[18:03] <misslecommander> for a while it ran beatiful, then just started to worke like a dead horse
[18:03] <Cpudan80> cdsmithus: Oh........... that's not good at all
[18:03] <Jed1> Keigo-kun  can you ping yourself?
[18:03] <cdsmithus> cpudan80: what is nautilus?
[18:04] <Jed1> Keigo-kun   ping <IP_ADDRESS>  works?
[18:04] <genii> Keigo-kun: If you do: ping localhost                     does it succees or tell you it cannot find a route or some other type of error message?
[18:04] <genii> *succees->succeed
[18:04] <Cpudan80> cdsmithus: It's part of gnome -- the desktop manager
[18:04] <jamie_> my cd drives have completely disappeared from /dev/, they still work under my windows, any ideas on how to fix/diagnose?
[18:04] <leal> the last line in tome is: demux_wavpack: (open_wv_file:129) open_wv_file: non-seekable inputs aren't supported yet.
[18:04] <bored_> ppl how to pre configure packages like nis which prompts us to enter domainname etc.. i tried to keep the config files ahead but it still asks me whether to keep the new version or old?
[18:04] <Zoem> after the most recent  xorg update, I can get to the login screen, but whenever I attempt to start a session from there, it resets to the login screen. Any suggestions?
[18:05] <misslecommander> a Gnome killed my GUI
[18:05] <Keigo-kun> Jed1, genii : no, PING does not seem to succeed
[18:05] <bored_> i dnt want it to prompt for anything..
[18:05] <cdsmithus> cpudan80: Hmm.  Okay.  I'll keep poking around.
[18:05] <bored_> just perform the installation
[18:05] <Cpudan80> cdsmithus: Yeah - I dunno what could cause that --- the log should be /var/log
[18:05] <Ashfire908> what's that option for tar to strip begining folders?
[18:05] <leal> somebody??
[18:05] <neverblue> jamie_, what do you believe is the reason for the disappearance ?
[18:05] <bored_> or is there some way i can tell it not to do configuration but just do the installation..
[18:06] <Jed1> Keigo-kun  ok... you need to tune your network setup....
[18:06] <genii> Keigo-kun: with admin privelege then ad to the first line of the file /etc/hosts a line:         <IP_ADDRESS>       localhost                              then save. restart apache2 and try the localhost or <IP_ADDRESS> again in url bar
[18:06] <theunixgeek> Hi. I want to create a very simple database in OpenOffice.org Base to store words, their definitions, synonyms, and antonyms. Could anyone either step me through it or point me to a tutorial?
[18:06] <cdsmithus> cpudan80: Yup, and top says nautilus is using 100% CPU on one of my two cores continually.
[18:06] <genii> work requires me, expect dome lag for a bit
[18:07] <Cpudan80> cdsmithus: strange....
[18:07] <theunixgeek> !database
[18:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about database - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:07] <jamie_> neverblue: honestly I have no idea, it worked on wednesday, i loaded my computer up on saturday and it didn't
[18:07] <Keigo-kun> genii: My hosts file allready contains the <IP_ADDRESS> localhosts line
[18:07] <Jed1> Keigo-kun Are you install apache on a workstation with ubuntu or an a server without gui?
[18:07] <dissident> where does wine keeps the window programs
[18:07] <syntaxerror55> !msgthebot > theunixgeek
[18:07] <jamie_> neverblue: only thing i installed were autoupdates
[18:07] <birdhouse> http://www.YourFreeiPhone.com/index.php?ref=4532576
[18:07] <birdhouse> http://www.YourFreeiPhone.com/index.php?ref=4532576
[18:07] <birdhouse> http://www.YourFreeiPhone.com/index.php?ref=4532576
[18:07] <DRebellion> dissident: ~/.wine
[18:07] <birdhouse> http://www.YourFreeiPhone.com/index.php?ref=4532576
[18:07] <nedw> usually ~/.wine
[18:07] <Keigo-kun> Jed1: workstation. Desktop 7.10 Ubuntu
[18:07] <birdhouse> http://www.YourFreeiPhone.com/index.php?ref=4532576
[18:07] <birdhouse> http://www.YourFreeiPhone.com/index.php?ref=4532576
[18:07] <FloodBot1> birdhouse: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:07] <theunixgeek> !ops
[18:07] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Jack_Sparrow!
[18:08] <LjL> theunixgeek: was klined already
[18:08] <theunixgeek> woops
[18:08] <bastid_raZor> dissident:: ~/.wine/drive_c
[18:08] <Cpudan80> theunixgeek: KLined
[18:08] <neverblue> jamie_, did you check the forums, which someone had recommended before ?
[18:08] <tummyacid> ok ive about exhausted all the relevent searches, they all give the same advice that unfortunatly ive tried and i still get "
[18:08] <tummyacid> Error 13:  invalid or unsupported executable format"
[18:08] <dissident> anyone managed to get imgburn working through wine ?
[18:08] <Lopin> What the hell is a Segmentation Fault?
[18:09] <Zoem> after the most recent  xorg update, I can get to the login screen, but whenever I attempt to start a session from there, it resets to the login screen. Any suggestions?
[18:09] <Jack_Sparrow> dissident: Please ask in #winehq
[18:09] <pure`eigenVector> Lopin: thats when a program tries to read memory outside of its allowed address space
[18:09] <dissident> ok
[18:09] <eru_> k
[18:09] <Jed1> Keigo-kun System-Administration-Network.....  choose Hosts...  Add .. IP =<IP_ADDRESS> Name = localhost
[18:09] <jamie_> neverblue: yup, its a hard problem to search, but i couldn't find anything, i also posted, not one reply
[18:09] <DRebellion> Lopin: the kernel won't let the program read memory outside what its been allocated so the program crashes.
[18:09] <nedw> does anyone have a suggestion for a good backup tool (not a time-machine clone)
[18:09] <tummyacid> Lopin: seg faults occure when something tries to access memory it isnt supposed to... usually means poor programming(though not always)
[18:10] <syntaxerror55> dissident: check http://appdb.winehq.org/ for apps that are known to work in wine
[18:10] <Keigo-kun> Jed1: Allready there.
[18:10] <Jed1> Keigo-kun  :)
[18:10] <MrObvious> Ouch K-Lined
[18:10] <tummyacid> please dont tell me i have to reinstall windows and ubuntu just to put windows on the first partition... seems like a aweful lot of work for a solution that isnt even garenteed
[18:11] <Jed1> Keigo-kun  Sorry  man... then I dont really know what to do...
[18:11] <Zoem> after the most recent  xorg update, I can get to the login screen, but whenever I attempt to start a session from there, it resets to the login screen. Any suggestions?
[18:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Lopin: WHat were you doing that generated the error.. Installing any drivers perhaps
[18:11] <tsrk> Hi, how do I add myself to a group in the command line?
[18:11] <Keigo-kun> Jed1: What can make the computer unable to ping itself O.o sounds very odd
[18:11] <rama_8086> when iam doing ./configure for a software it showing,checking for working makeinfo... missing
[18:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Zoem: I would start with recovery mode and manually reconfigure exserver-xorg
[18:11] <Jed1> Keigo-kun  Have you messed with configuration files in /etc ??
[18:11] <bkar> tummyacid-> you want guarantees?  you pay top money, you may get it or may not
[18:12] <tummyacid> tsrk : dont forget to type newgrp <group name> after you have been added to it
[18:12] <Keigo-kun> Jed1: No. I have installed and reinstalled apache2 at one point, but I made a complete removal so I don't see how it could matter
[18:12] <rama_8086> when iam doing ./configure for a software it showing,checking for working makeinfo... missing, how to solve that
[18:12] <Zoem> Jack_Sparrow,  using dpkg-reconfigure, or do you mean editing the configs?
[18:12] <Phalcon> Greetings, all.  I'm troubleshooting a problem logging in.  My desktop never appears and it goes back to the login prompt, no error.  I saw someone else with the same problem.  Has this already been resolved?
[18:12] <tummyacid> well i was kinda hoping to hear some anecdotes before i spent all day reinstalling operating systems just to play call of duty
[18:12] <ToxicSoul2> hey, I'm back. I had a question: the gnome failsafe session works but the other session doesn't, whats the easiest way to fix the first?
[18:13] <rsfriends> i have a video dvx, but want to convert to ipod, is their any program in  ubuntu that can do this  job;) thx for answare;)
[18:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Zoem: sudo dpkg rec....   or manually editing xorg.conf.. your choice
[18:13] <theunixgeek> Anyone good with OpenOffice.org Base and would like to help a newbie to it? :)
[18:13] <DRebellion> rsfriends: mencoder
[18:13] <Jed1> Keigo-kun   ok.. wait ... I will check one thing
[18:13] <rsfriends> thx ;) drebellion;)
[18:13] <DRebellion> rsfriends: ;)
[18:13] <hwilde> anybody an expert with Thunderbird filter rules?  I created a new account and I would like to copy the filter rules so I don't have to recreate each one by hand.
[18:13] <Zoem> Jack_Sparrow, well, I have no idea what could be wrong with the .conf, so I'll see if dpkg can fix it
[18:13] <bkar> Phalcon-> can you ctrl+alt+F3 and login  can you?
[18:13] <__SchmRz__> How do i install glibc 2.4 on ubuntu 6.06?
[18:13] <rsfriends> ;)
[18:14] <tummyacid> since all other proposed solutions have had absolutly zero effect on my error messages it occures id better spend the time reading a book
[18:14] <Pici> theunixgeek: Have you tried asking in #users.openoffice.org ?
[18:14] <rama_8086> ./configure results checking for working makeinfo... missing, how to solve that error
[18:14] <tsrk_> I accidently disconnected... Anyone know how I can add myself to a group in the command line?
[18:14] <genii> Keigo-kun: At any rate it seems to be more an issue with your network setup than apache
[18:14] <theunixgeek> Pici: no, I didn't know that channel existed. I'll check it out. ;)
[18:14] <DRebellion> __SchmRz__: sudo apt-get instal libc
[18:14] <Phalcon> bkar:  Yes.  I created a new account as a test, same issue.  I also asked about this on the forum site as well...
[18:14] <bkar> tsrk-> man groupadd
[18:14] <eugman> DHCP autoconfigure isn't working for me. I have an old ~2000 server I was given. I don't know how to manually configure dhcp or test if the computer's network card is working.
[18:15] <__SchmRz__> DRebellion, that does not work
[18:15] <bastid_raZor> tsrk_:: you could use sudo addgroup
[18:15] <Phalcon> bkar:  That is, yes, I can go to a terminal just fine and danday.
[18:15] <genii> tsrk_: sudo usermod -G -a <newgreoupname> <newgroupname2> <etc> username
[18:15] <DRebellion> __SchmRz__: what happens when you try? any error messages?
[18:15] <Jed1> Keigo-kun  try this in terminal:  sudo ifup lo
[18:15] <theunixgeek> Pici: actually, I have been there, but I joined it as #openoffice.org instead of #users.openoffice.org
[18:15] <__SchmRz__> DRebellion, Package libc has no installation candidate
[18:15] <tummyacid> tsrk: dont forget to use newgrp <grp name> as that user to switch groups....
[18:15] <VvWolverinevV> hi, im using istanbul desktop session recorder and the the output files always play with a green stripe in the middle of them, anyone know why?
[18:16] <VvWolverinevV> !istanbul
[18:16] <ToxicSoul2> Okay second question: Any idea why Solaris will run at 1280x1024 but I can only get ubuntu to work at 1024x768 (if I try 1280x1024 I get an out of range message..)
[18:16] <__SchmRz__> DRebellion, libc is base package. I don't think that i can install it that way.
[18:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about istanbul - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:16] <DRebellion> !msgthebot | VvWolverinevV
[18:16] <ubotu> VvWolverinevV: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[18:16] <pure`eigenVector> istanbul was once constantinople
[18:17] <MrObvious> ToxicSoul2: This isn't #solairs
[18:17] <MrObvious> Solaris
[18:17] <MrObvious> :\
[18:17] <eugman> Anyone know what I need to do to configure dhcp manually?
[18:17] <__SchmRz__> Jack_Sparrow, how will i install new glibc version (2.4) i need it for supertuxkart :)
[18:17] <ToxicSoul2> yeah I got that, but for some reason ubuntu doesnt want to support the resolution
[18:17] <genii> eugman: dhcp server or dhcp client?
[18:18] <dissident> i have removed wine with uninstall but in applications menu i can still see wine and an app i once installed but already removed, so how can i permanently delete something of the app bar
[18:18] <eugman> genni, dhcp client. I'm doing a server install and it's not autoconfiguring dhcp.
[18:18] <Jack_Sparrow> __SchmRz__: What is the latest version in our repos
[18:18] <ToxicSoul2> I had to manually edit my xorg to even get this to load in 1024x768, ubuntu kept wanting to put me in 1280x1024 which was completely unusable
[18:18] <misslecommander> Jack_Sparrow: my wifi connects at boot, dont need to do a thing :)
[18:19] <bastid_raZor> dissident:: right click where it says applications and select edit Menus
[18:19] <Jack_Sparrow> cool
[18:19] <genii> eugman: man dhclient.conf               it's found in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf           you can set longer timeout periods, other things there
[18:19] <Jack_Sparrow> ToxicSoul2: What video card?
[18:19] <ToxicSoul2> Jack_Sparrow, rage 128
[18:19] <__SchmRz__> Jack_Sparrow, just a sec
[18:19] <wyclif> ok, this is ridiculous.  my gf saw i had BitchX installed, and thought it might be pr0n
[18:19] <Jack_Sparrow> ToxicSoul2: What all have you done or tried so far on that..
[18:19] <tummyacid> has anyone had the experiance where the ONLY way to get windows to dual boot with ubuntu is to install windows to the first partition of the drive? is this really my only option here? the swap (hd0) (hd1) command and its complement make no difference in the error messages when i type chainloader +1
[18:20] <wyclif> all b/c of that "X"
[18:20] <Jaza> I need help with dvd rip
[18:20] <eugman> genii, cool. Should I able to use the conf info from my laptop?
[18:20] <pure`eigenVector> wyclif: owned!
[18:20] <genii> eugman: Conceivably :)
[18:20] <eugman> genii, hopefully. Thanks.
[18:20] <wyclif> try explaining what IRC is in that context...
[18:20] <__SchmRz__> Jack_Sparrow, 2.3.6
[18:20] <genii> eugman: np
[18:20] <eugman> genii, Oh btw. How can I test if the network card is recognized once I finish the install?
[18:21] <pure`eigenVector> wget www.google.com
[18:21] <DRebellion> Jaza: have you tried inserting the dvdr into the drive? No, seriously tell us some more info first...
[18:21] <genii> eugman: Before reboot you mean?
[18:21] <Jaza> when I started I get an error "stdin player command: xine not found"
[18:21] <Jack_Sparrow> tummyacid: It can be done the other way.. but just easier to have windows on and let the ubuntu installer set it up.
[18:21] <ToxicSoul2> Jack_Sparrow, I edited the xorg just removing the resolutions to get it to start in 1024x768, but otherwise not much as far as getting it to work under 1280x1024
[18:21] <genii> eugman: Sorry, thinking ubuntu install instead of dhcp install there a second
[18:22] <rama_8086> how can write a CD or DVD from ubuntu
[18:22] <eugman> genii, I am doing a full install. After I get it intalled and have acess to the shell.
[18:22] <MGalaxy> Is it psooble to print to a PNG file? how?
[18:22] <Jack_Sparrow> ToxicSoul2: I am not sure where those fit in the radeon 7000 - 9500 series..
[18:22] <bkar> Phalcon-> if you look in your /var/log/auth.log  does it shed some light on the log-in/log-out process?
[18:22] <genii> eugman: OK. 1 minute.
[18:22] <__SchmRz__> Jack_Sparrow, the latest version is 2.3.6
[18:22] <dsturnbull> anyone have gutsy amd64 + creative sb x-fi xtreme gamer working?
[18:22] <Jaza> and "rar command (for vobsub compression):rar not found"
[18:22] <tummyacid> Jack_Sparrow : when i installed ubuntu it didnt notice the windows partition, but now thats its installed it had made a shortcut on the desktop to it.  Can i tell ubuntu to recheck for windows installs and attempt to configure them automatically?
[18:22] <bastid_raZor> rama_8086:: i tend to like some KDE apps.. K3b for example burns cd/dvd's with ease
[18:22] <Phalcon> bkar:  Checking...
[18:22] <Jack_Sparrow> __SchmRz__: Yep, I saw your post, just dont have time to help with that.
[18:23] <Jack_Sparrow> tummyacid: So you are in ubuntu now?
[18:23] <Ar-ras> bastid_raZor I dont wanna change Usplash i wanna create my own splash.rle
[18:23] <misslecommander> !burn > rama_8086
[18:23] <Jaza> drebellion any idea why that is?
[18:23] <Jack_Sparrow> tummyacid: Did you look at your boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:24] <Phalcon> bkar:  I see the session opened, then closed 4 seconds later.
[18:24] <bastid_raZor> Ar-ras:: that link had a how to on just that.
[18:24] <xybre> ToxicSoul2: wrong refresh rate?
[18:24] <genii> eugman: You can chroot there and do ifconfig...but it will be blank slate for stuff like hosts, /etc/network/interfaces and so on. Not to mention udev. But you could try these steps:
[18:24] <Jack_Sparrow> tummyacid: Also look at sudo fdisk -l
[18:24] <bkar> Phalcon-> nothing shed any lights on why it logs you out?
[18:24] <ToxicSoul2> xybre, should be right, was set to 76Hz
[18:25] <Jack_Sparrow> ToxicSoul2: Pastebin your xorg.conf ...  I will try to look at it before I have to leave
[18:25] <genii> eugman: sudo cp -a /etc/network/* /target/etc/network
[18:25] <DRebellion> Jaza: is xine installed on your system?
[18:25] <Keigo-kun> Jed1: I got this: Ignoring unknown interface lo=lo.
[18:25] <Phalcon> bkar:  Nothing I can see.  No files in the home directory are even touched, not even .xsession-errors
[18:25] <tummyacid> Jack_Sparrow : yes i havebeen using ubuntu for months and love! havnt missed the windows partition i had installed first since until today i wanted to play a little call of duty... but no way to get windows to boot.  Ive looked at /boot/grub/menu.lst and checked the search engines but none of the solutions offered seem to get around "Error 13: invalid or unsupported executable format"
[18:25] <Phalcon> bkar: I cannot find anything odd in /var/log either.
[18:25] <Ar-ras> bastid_raZor no? I wanna create a splash.rle, and that doesnt show me how
[18:26] <bkar> Phalcon-> which window manager do you use?
[18:26] <genii> eugman: sudo cp -a /etc/hosts /target/etc/hosts
[18:26] <bastid_raZor> Ar-ras:: i don't know what a splash.rle is.. sorry i thought you meant a usplash
[18:26] <Jaza> are you referring to xine extra pugins?
[18:26] <Phalcon> bkar:  KDE by default though same behavior with Gnome and XFCE.
[18:26] <ToxicSoul2> Jack_Sparrow, http://pastebin.com/m18e09e0
[18:26] <leal> Anybody here can watch DVD's with gutsy?
[18:27] <Jack_Sparrow> tummyacid: All I would or could do is fdisk -l to verify the partition info and look at grub to make sure it is pointint to the right partition and not some recovery partition etc
[18:27] <DRebellion> !anyone | leal
[18:27] <xell> !paste
[18:27] <ubotu> leal: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[18:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[18:27] <xell> hmm
[18:27] <genii> eugman:
[18:27] <genii> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/boot
[18:27] <genii> $ sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev
[18:27] <genii> $ sudo mount -o bind /sys /mnt/sys
[18:27] <genii> $ sudo mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc
[18:27] <genii> bah
[18:27] <FloodBot1> genii: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:27] <Phalcon> I've even run rkhunter and chkrootkit just because I'm paranoid...  Nothing.
[18:27] <webwolf_27> tummyacid, could you paste your menu.lst in the pastebin
[18:27] <bkar> Phalcon-> maybe pam modules are kicking you out, maybe it has not passed, I forget how you log pam failures
[18:27] <mustafa> i'm sitting on a laptop with 'realtek wireless' label on it .. I can't see my wireless device .. can anyone help?
[18:28] <DRebellion> mustafa: try the command 'dmesg' look for wireless errors
[18:28] <neverblue> !wireless | mustafa
[18:28] <Phalcon> bkar:  I can ssh in...  I'll check for any pam errors.  Good idea..
[18:28] <Jaza> when I try to install it says" xine extra plugin cannot be install to your computer type
[18:28] <leal> ubotu: maybe it does not work at all. So, there is no need to ask.
[18:28] <genii> eugman: Forget the first one there about /dev/sdb1  and the others replace /mnt/ with /target/
[18:28] <ubotu> mustafa: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[18:28] <webwolf_27> mustafa, what chip?
[18:28] <tummyacid> Jack_Sparrow : thanks for the pointer ill check out fdisk -l but im not really using menu.lst for the testing im just hitting 'c' and then typing the commands in manaully to the grub console... it makes me feel safer not messing with grub directly until i know what to put in menu.lst but i can try it that way if you folks prefer
[18:28] <DRebellion> !bot | leal
[18:28] <ubotu> leal: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[18:28] <flipmode> I have just installed a new dvd drive and its not reading it
[18:28] <bcardarella> Does the Adoba Flash plugin for FireFox not install? I "installed" then closed FF, but it still doesn't run the plugin
[18:28] <genii> eugman: then chroot /target   and test connection with ifconfig
[18:29] <hk2999> why can't CGI:IRC join here?
[18:29] <eugman> genii ok
[18:29] <DRebellion> !flash > bcardarella (read the pm from ubotu)
[18:29] <Jack_Sparrow> tummyacid: You can always create an entire second entry for your testing and edit that or try a few at a time that way...
[18:29] <hk2999> ive got a 'friend' who is using CGI:IRC because his windows is messed up and need support in downloading ubuntu, but he can only use CGI:IRC, and he can't connect here
[18:30] <kraut> hi
[18:30] <jrib> hk2999: ask in #ubuntu-ops
[18:30] <Jaza> DRebellion when I try to install it says" xine extra plugin cannot be install to your computer type
[18:30] <pure`eigenVector> howdy kraut!
[18:30] <tummyacid> is grub like lilo used to be where you have to run an update command? im sorry i was so used to lilo that when grub came out i just took it at face value and never bothered to learn it like i should have
[18:30] <Keigo-kun> Jed1: I think we might got something there, I remember manually editing the networks config because I couldn't connect when I installed Ubuntu
[18:30] <Jack_Sparrow> tummyacid: Hope that made sense.. create copies of the windows loader section and paste a few copies, edit those leaving the original
[18:30] <kraut> wich package do i need use my nvidia graphics card with the binary driver?
[18:30] <jrib> !nvidia > kraut (read the private message from ubotu)
[18:30] <kraut> thanks
[18:31] <tummyacid> right right ive done that before i just though id check by manually typing in commands but i dont mind doing it thru the menu.lst if i can get help
[18:31] <dissident> thanks
[18:31] <u007-1> hi, which package contains X development libraries?
[18:32] <flajann> ruby1.9/mysql question -- I am trying to install the mysql2.7 gem on Ubuntu. I keep getting "version.h: No such file or directory".
[18:32] <jetscreamer> xserver-xorg-dev in debian, u007 probably same in ubuntu
[18:32] <jetscreamer> iirc
[18:32] <flajann> cc -I. -I/usr/include/ruby-1.9/i486-linux -I/usr/include/ruby-1.9 -I. -DHAVE_MYSQL_SSL_SET -DHAVE_MYSQL_MYSQL_H -I/usr/local/include  -fPIC -fno-strict-aliasing -g  -fPIC  -c mysql.c
[18:32] <u007-1> jetscreamer: thank you :)
[18:32] <kraut> jrib: seems to work, thanks
[18:32] <tummyacid> http://pastebin.com/d5edd6312      <---- results of fdisk -l
[18:32] <flajann> mysql.c:6:21: error: version.h: No such file or directory
[18:32] <misslecommander> what log files do i look at to see whts causing my OS to crash or freeze ? it does both
[18:32] <flajann> Any ideas?
[18:33] <DRebellion> !enter | flajann
[18:33] <ubotu> flajann: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[18:33] <jetscreamer> u007-1: apt-cache search xorg | grep -dev
[18:33] <jetscreamer> or so
[18:33] <flajann> ok
[18:33] <leal> Hello, i was watching DVD's a few hour ago with totem in gutsy, now, no one DVD is playing anymore. The same DVD is not working..
[18:33] <u007-1> jetscreamer: i found it :D thanks
[18:33] <DRebellion> leal: have you updated between then and now?
[18:34] <leal> DRebellion: Nothing.
[18:34] <rencore_> why dont my usb devices get automounted
[18:34] <leal> really nothing!
[18:34] <Xabriel> ok, who wants to help me untangle my attempt at making a dual booting gutsy/XP laptop?
[18:34] <ToxicSoul2> Hmm I seemed to have fixed the problems I was having.. although that was the hardest ubuntu install I've ever done.. =p
[18:34] <leal> i have some "golden" rules, and one is not mess a working machine. :)
[18:35] <Jaza> can anyone help me with DVD rip when I try to install it says "when I started I get an error "stdin player command: xine not found"
[18:35] <webwolf_27> Xabriel, so whats wrong with it
[18:35] <DRebellion> Xabriel: just explain your situtation and someone will help
[18:35] <Phalcon> bkar: Not seeing anything odd with pam.  I have a lot of login/logout entries, cron is working, I can ssh in...
[18:35] <DRebellion> Jaza: what program you using to rip?
[18:35] <ToxicSoul2> oh fun, installed fluxbox and I dont get any menus *sigh*
[18:35] <leal> DRebellion: Do you know about a "known" bug with totem? I mean, there is a file to regenerate or something? I did try to find a local configuration, but did not find anything.
[18:36] <Jaza>  when I try to install it says" xine extra plugin cannot be install to your computer type
[18:36] <Jaza> dvd: rip
[18:36] <Xabriel> well, I installed gutsy, and everything was working fine, then I installed XP on a seperate partition, now I'm trying to sort thing out with grub (I'm using the super grub disk)
[18:36] <pure`eigenVector> any reasons why my ubuntu becomes slow to respond when transfering large files even though the cpu utilization and memory are very low?  Are my cpu monitors not reporting hard drive transfer activity?
[18:36] <u007-1> jetscreamer: gtk2.8 configure still states X not found, even installed xserver-xorg-dev
[18:36] <Tyczek> Do you experience problems with playing video on ati 7.12 ?
[18:37] <bkar> Phalcon-> I could not think of any solution
[18:37] <tummyacid> id paste my /boot/grub/menu.lst file but the only lines that would be intesresting (as far as i know) would be the following "root (hd1,0) <enter> makeactive <enter> chainloader +1 "
[18:37] <DRebellion> pure`eigenVector: your cpu monitors report cpu activity. nothing more, nothing less.
[18:37] <webwolf_27> Xabriel, youll need to use map in menu.lst to tell win it's on the primary partition
[18:37] <Jaza> DRebellion I'm trying to use DVD::rip
[18:37] <Xabriel> you're gonna have to tell me how to get there :P
[18:38] <Phalcon> bkar:  Me neither ;-)  Thanks for trying.   I'll continue to monitor the two threads posted on the forum.
[18:38] <jetscreamer> dvd::rip kinda blows, or did when i tried it 6 months or a year ago
[18:38] <jetscreamer> try avidemux
[18:38] <Lopin> I need help with a hanging install of server...
[18:38] <pure`eigenVector> DRebellion, but I was wondering if dma wasn't enabled causing the file transfer to eat up cpu cycles
[18:38] <DRebellion> Xabriel: does the computer boot? can you get into linux?
[18:38] <webwolf_27> Xabriel, damn it's been a while since I've dualbooted
[18:38] <Flannel> Lopin: Did you verify the CD? (check for defects)
[18:38] <kimmey2k3> Do I need some special codecs to play bluray 1080p movies?
[18:39] <jetscreamer> u007-1: not sure... there are other xorg -dev packages, they kinda go in tiers
[18:39] <Xabriel> not currently, I tried repairing the linux MBR with super grub, but I'm gettting error 15: File not found
[18:39] <Flannel> tummyacid: What are you trying to boot?  hd1,0 is hdb, of which... you appear to have no drives.  If I had to guess, I'd say hd2,1 is what you want to boot to
[18:39] <ThipThip> Wow, I'm very confused.  Here's my story:  In my curiosity, I read about CTRL-ALT-F1, which I thought would simply be a shortcut for opening a terminal window.  However, it took me to a terminal from which I knew not how to escape.  I pressed CTRL-ALT-DEL and my computer restarted, but now it boots in low graphics mode.  What's going on?
[18:39] <jetscreamer> you might need w32codecs maybe
[18:39] <webwolf_27> Xabriel, you'll need to boot with a livecd to restore grub
[18:39] <Xabriel> ok
[18:40] <Flannel> ThipThip: ctrl-alt-f7 gets you back to the GUI, ctrl-alt-f1 (through ctrl-alt-f6) get you to ttys
[18:40] <Xabriel> not the i368? that's what I had to use to install gutsy
[18:40] <echelon3> what is the current version of ubuntu
[18:40] <DRebellion> ThipThip: CTRL+ALT+F1 takes you to the *actual* terminal. a terminal window in gnome is simply an emulator of one of these.
[18:40] <echelon3> latest
[18:40] <freefal> 7.10
[18:40] <bkar> Phalcon-> just curious, if you ssh in using  ssh -X option, you can log in okay?
[18:40] <webwolf_27> then you'll have to add some map commands to menu.lst to get XP to boot
[18:40] <u007-1> jetscreamer: thank you :D i've found bunch of xorg to install :P
[18:40] <echelon3> when was 5.1 released
[18:40] <Pici> echelon3: 7.10, aka Gutsy Gibbon
[18:41] <Phalcon> bkar:  I'll check...
[18:41] <Pici> echelon3: 5.10 = 2005/10  so, october 2005.
[18:41] <tummyacid> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/d5edd6312      <---- results of fdisk -l   i agree, but the working ubuntu entries in /boot/grub/menu.lst refer to hd1,0  i am actually trying to use hdc but it makes no difference as they both yield the exact same error 13 when i try to boot windows from the grub console
[18:41] <webwolf_27> Xabriel, if it's not the alternate cd it'll work
[18:41] <mustafa> I found out I have a realtek RTL8101E .. now what should I do to install a driver for it?
[18:41] <Xabriel> ok
[18:41] <Flannel> tummyacid: Can you boot linux successfully?
[18:41] <ThipThip> wow - I feel like I'm in a parallel universe here.  OK, CTRL-ALT-F7 took me to a blank screen where I could type but do nothing.  I tried the rest of the CTRL-ALT-F buttons and found that F9 got me back here.
[18:41] <Keigo-kun> I can't ping localhost, what could be wrong?
[18:41] <tummyacid> Flannel : yes i am in ubuntu now
[18:41] <flipmode> #Kubuntu
[18:42] <ThipThip> (but I'm still in low graphics mode and can't seem to claw my way out)
[18:42] <Flannel> tummyacid: and the linux entries are hd1,X?
[18:42] <tehk> I am having trouble changing my cursor theme. I can change it on my kde sesion but it does not work in my xfce session
[18:42] <tofaffy> When I go into gconf-editor and go to apps>nautilus>desktop and try and set the icons where they don't show up on the desktop... I can't change them because they are set to schema. Where would I go to change this in the theme or whatever so they don't show up?
[18:42] <FYI> Is there anyway to see what programs are using your network connection on ubuntu?
[18:42] <tummyacid> Flannel : yes, would you like me to post my (practically default) /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[18:42] <FYI> I have a constant upload rate of like 5kbs and want to see what program is using it
[18:42] <Flannel> tummyacid: no, thats fine... just... troubling.
[18:42] <TheGateKeeper> is there a mail client which will minimise to the system tray, & notify when new mail arrives?
[18:42] <Pici> FYI: netstat -tanp
[18:43] <Daremonai> I need a good music streaming server for ubuntu, anyone has got one in mind? vlc was lagging a lot from the server side for some reason. and gnump3d shares the mp3s (in other words, people will be able to download the audio) - it doesn't work as radio-station-y
[18:43] <FYI> Pici: tahnks
[18:43] <tummyacid> Flannel : agreed... i never understood the whole hdx,y format, what ever was wrong with /dev/hdX?
[18:43] <mindframe-> is anyone here familiar with bluetooth tethering of mobile phones in ubuntu?
[18:43] <acuster> did tracker recently break?
[18:43] <acuster> it's dying all of a sudden on this gutsy
[18:44] <AristoMagnus> Hello
[18:44] <webwolf_27> tummyacid, grub counts from 0 so hd0,0 is the first partition on the primary hd
[18:44] <basy> when i set timeout of screensaver to 1minute in dafalt desktop settings... my screensaver did nit start after 1 minutr but black screen starts after 5 minutes... Any idea where or what to set? i am on KDE kubuntu 7.10, 64bit...
[18:44] <Flannel> tummyacid: GRUB gets a list of harddrives from the BIOS, and it numbers them (starting with zero), partitions are also numbered from zero.  Linux, starts with a, (and 1) and also, differentiates between HD and SD (IDE and SATA, respectively) because its got more resources to be able to distinguish
[18:44] <Lopin> Can anyone help me?
[18:44] <Flannel> Lopin: did you verify the CD?
[18:44] <ThipThip> Flannel or DRebellion: I cannot seem to get back to regular graphics mode from whence I came.  I'm currently in CTRL-ALT-F9 land and very confused.  Can you direct me to a place where I might read about this dilemma (and perhaps the function of all the CTRL-ALT-* shortcuts)?
[18:44] <AristoMagnus> After setting up bing nsswitch.conf and openldap+samba for a directory server, Sometime, i can't login, the boot process stuck at bind9 startup... Did you ever see that problem with 7.10 server?
[18:45] <wilhart> ok give me url for after install, apt-get these :)
[18:45] <Biter-manon> hello?
[18:45] <AristoMagnus> hello
[18:45] <aku2> böö
[18:45] <jlewis> [stupid question]....but I've seen all these demo's on desktop wall and desktop cube...assuming a 7.10 install with working compiz, how do I actually use whichever of these features is the active one?
[18:45] <AristoMagnus> After setting up bind9 nsswitch.conf and openldap+samba for a directory server, Sometime, i can't login, the boot process stuck at bind9 startup... Did you ever see that problem with 7.10 server?
[18:45] <tummyacid> ok ok question answered... so for /dev/hdc5 i would do root (hd2,4)   ??
[18:45] <jetscreamer> ThipThip: it's 'supposed' to be alt+F7 to get back to gui, and ctrl+alt+F(1-6) for consoles... not sure what you got, just that's what it's 'supposed' to be
[18:46] <ikonia> AristoMagnus bind9 has nothing to do with nsswitch.conf
[18:46] <tummyacid> http://pastebin.com/d5edd6312      <---- results of fdisk -l
[18:46] <webwolf_27> tummyacid, exactly
[18:46] <DRebellion> ThipThip: CTRL+ALT+F7
[18:46] <ThipThip> I seem to be in super-safe mode.  I cannot install or uninstall anything, and I'm stuck at 640x480
[18:46] <pure`eigenVector> whoo hoo!!! finally got everything up and running in ubuntu!!!   Thanks everybody for the assistance and patience!!! You guys rawk!
[18:46] <tummyacid> w00t grats pure`eigenVector !!!
[18:46] <ThipThip> DRebellion:  CTRL+ALT+F7 takes me to a blank screen where I can type, but nothing happens.
[18:46] <Phalcon> bkar:  I can start xeyes anyway.  I'm too far away from the box to test much more than that at this point...
[18:46] <AristoMagnus> ikonia: I know but when i bootup, if it stuck at bind, i cant login with root and it stuck
[18:47] <ikonia> AristoMagnus: you can't login to ubuntu as root any way
[18:47] <AristoMagnus> ikonia: But if bind start and the rest just start, i can login...
[18:47] <DRebellion> ThipThip: that's really odd. You can't boot the computer in normal graphics mode?
[18:47] <AristoMagnus> ikonia: yes you can if you configure a password for root ;)
[18:47] <ikonia> AristoMagnus: look at the syslog for bind start issues, the hang is probably it trying to contact it's masters/slave ?
[18:47] <AristoMagnus> ikonia: anyway, that's not the point
[18:47] <bkar> Phalcon-> okay..am out of ideas anyways
[18:47] <ThipThip> DRebebellion:  I don't seem to be able to.  Rebooting brings me back here.
[18:47] <DRebellion> ThipThip: :/
[18:47] <ThipThip> I'll try again.
[18:47] <tummyacid> im rebooting now to try the new root command, this window will stay up though because its on a vnc to my other box, brb
[18:47] <ikonia> AristoMagnus: the point is if you doing things like configuring root passwords and dns servers you should know how to do basic debugging
[18:48] <mindframe-> is anyone here familiar with bluetooth tethering of mobile phones in ubuntu?
[18:48] <uptownben> can anyone suggest a good/secure pop3/imap package?
[18:48] <webwolf_27> tummyacid, you windows is on a logical partition?
[18:48] <DRebellion> !anyone | mindframe-
[18:48] <ubotu> mindframe-: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[18:48] <AristoMagnus> i know ;)
[18:48] <dsturnbull> anyone have gutsy amd64 + creative sb x-fi xtreme gamer working?
[18:48] <AristoMagnus> ikonia: anyway thanks for the cue
[18:48] <tummyacid> ya i think so did you see my pastebin?
[18:49] <eugman> Anyone knows a good resource that covers the output of ifconfig so I can read it better in the future?
[18:49] <DRebellion> dsturnbull: well you obviously don't :P . Tell us, what is the problem?
[18:49] <webwolf_27> tummyacid, yep. Let me guess. Windows won't boot
[18:49] <Biter-manon_> someone PM me
[18:49] <dtolj> How to convert RSS into XHTML?
[18:49] <dsturnbull> the driver segfaults upon load
[18:50] <tummyacid> error 13:  invalid or unsupported executable format   -- i cant even get windows the chance to give me an error message this is a grub error
[18:50] <DRebellion> eugman: to be honest, it's pretty self explanatory if you have enough background networking knowledge.
[18:50] <muuddflap> i have a lexmark z730 i can get it to feed paper but won't print can someone help
[18:50] <webwolf_27> tummyacid, can I see the relavant portion of your menu.lst
[18:51] <rencore_> why wont my usb devices automount
[18:51] <jetscreamer> muuddflap: lexmark has a linux section on their webpage, hth all i know
[18:51] <eugman> Drebellion, I thought that might be the case. I have a litlle but knowledge is accidentle. Of course I'm taking a networking couse so maybe that'll cover everything
[18:51] <jetscreamer> i have one but never tried hard to make it work
[18:51] <DRebellion> eugman: never stop learning ;)
[18:51] <muuddflap> thanks jet been there and nothing but thanks
[18:51] <jetscreamer> rencore_: they're not marked auto in fstab?
[18:52] <tummyacid> webwolf_27 : so far their isnt a portion of the menu.lst im using the grub console for testing but if i were to put one it would look like "root (2,4) <enter> makeactive <enter> chainloader +1 <enter>"
[18:52] <rencore_> jetscreamer, i dont know
[18:52] <eugman> Drebellion, The issue is finding the information sometimes.
[18:52] <bcardarella> Is there a way to choose the run level I boot into? (for recovery mode)
[18:52] <jetscreamer> rencore_: less /etc/fstab and see
[18:52] <webwolf_27> tummyacid, don't forget the maps or win won't run
[18:52] <Xabriel> webwolf_27: so, can I use the i386 disk? Cause the live CD doesn't boot on the laptop I'm working on.
[18:52] <Tyczek> how to change driver from catalist 7.12 to 8.1? just remove packages?
[18:53] <tummyacid> webwolf_27 : thanks ive got them in my notes but so far they havent changed any error messages... im glad someone else can confirm that they do help though
[18:53] <Lopin> is anyone even here?
[18:53] <tummyacid> webwolf_27 : any other pointers?
[18:53] <Lopin> HELLO!!!
[18:53] <webwolf_27> Xabriel, what cd did you use to install linux
[18:53] <rencore_> jetscreamer, where can i see if it automounts?
[18:54] <Flannel> Lopin: Did you verify the CD?
[18:54] <Xabriel> webwolf_27, i386
[18:54] <webwolf_27> tummyacid, in the future install windows first. Then install linux
[18:54] <Xabriel> webwolf_27, the alternate cd
[18:54] <webwolf_27> Xabriel, that should work
[18:54] <jetscreamer> rencore_: less /etc/fstab ... there may be a gnome specific automount that i know nothing of, though
[18:54] <jetscreamer> may also be
[18:54] <tummyacid> webwolf_27 : agreed, thats actually what i did but you are probably right it was a bad move to put windows into the extended partition
[18:54] <dissident> did anyone here tried popstation md gui for psp
[18:55] <Pici> !offtopic | dissident
[18:55] <ubotu> dissident: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:55] <QuickGold> Can someone tell me the name of a GUI for administering Apache?
[18:55] <tummyacid> ive done this many times in the old days with lilo.  By the time grub came out i had stopped bothering to dual boot until today
[18:55] <kantor> is there a program with witch I can add or change fat32 file system labels ?
[18:56] <webwolf_27> tummyacid, win insists on being on the first partition of the primary master. Thats why we need the maps
[18:56] <twistedbeatfreek> can anyone help me install my ati video card
[18:56]  * tummyacid feels like the oldest n00b
[18:56] <u007-1> ... i'm in deep trouble..., if i managed to install gtk2.8, will my nautilus work?
[18:56] <QuickGold> Can someone tell me the name of a GUI for administering Apache?
[18:56] <webwolf_27> tummyacid, also try rootnoverify instead of root
[18:56] <Starnestommy> u007-1: I think so
[18:56] <u007-1> starnestommy: praying...