[16:55] <bendavisnc> could some one here maybe look at a partial of my syslog and guess as to why my wifi keeps periodically disconnecting and being slow?
[16:55] <DanE> I have not tried that, I will give it a shot, thank you
[16:55] <bendavisnc> https://www.dropbox.com/s/iqvayzx01m0qk05/syslogPartial.txt?dl=0
[16:56] <Zetta> ioria I tried installing xbattbar, when I was over talking in #xubuntu, in an attempt to see if it would follow suit with the built in battery monitory stuff and it still displayed as 0%/-1%
[16:56] <bendavisnc> i'm running ubuntu 14.04 on an asus laptop
[16:56] <ioria> Zetta   you can try acpi=nolapic     http://askubuntu.com/questions/427560/ubuntu-battery-not-charging-or-not-detected
[16:59] <Zetta> Ioria okay Ill try that where would i throw that flag
[16:59] <bendavisnc> no one?
[17:00] <ioria> Zetta   at boot, press shift , enter grub and edit the line with the new param
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> bendavisnc: what is the output of:  sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; uname -a
[17:01] <Zetta> ioria okay well Ill give that a shot and come back with results
[17:01] <ioria> Zetta   good luck
[17:01] <SCHAAP137> bendavisnc: i see the disconnect reason is always (reason -4)
[17:01] <bendavisnc>   *-network
[17:01] <bendavisnc>        description: Wireless interface
[17:01] <bendavisnc>        product: Wireless 7265
[17:01] <bendavisnc>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[17:01] <bendavisnc>        physical id: 0
[17:01] <bendavisnc>        bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
[17:01] <SCHAAP137> bendavisnc: try this -> http://zeroset.mnim.org/2014/04/22/unstable-wifi-connection-on-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr-ctrl-event-disconnected-reason4-locally_generated1/
[17:01] <SCHAAP137> describes the same issue, with same kind of WiFi adapter from Intel
[17:02] <SCHAAP137> basically it tells you to disable the wireless-N functionality, and use a lower standard, like G
[17:03] <bendavisnc> oh yeah i've tried that
[17:03] <SCHAAP137> no change?
[17:03] <Brutus> Hi, I installed landscape and the website is failing on me when I open it with my browser.
[17:03] <bendavisnc> but i did it on the router end, ie i disabled it from the linksys page
[17:03] <Brutus> it's sort of working, but it looks like a page from 1994
[17:03] <SCHAAP137> okay, you might need to disable it on both sides, bendavisnc
[17:03] <Brutus> no images, layouts etc like I see on google images
[17:03] <bendavisnc> ok i'll give it a go
[17:04] <bendavisnc> thanks
[17:04] <SCHAAP137> yw
[17:04] <SCHAAP137> Brutus, tried with other browser?
[17:04] <SCHAAP137> same results?
[17:05] <Brutus> only have chromium installed
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> bendavisnc: use a pastebin please
[17:05] <Estragon> hi, I have a lot of issues writing data to a ntfs device. Transfer is fine for the first ~500MB but then it hangs, interface tends to freeze, even df freezes.
[17:05] <SCHAAP137> you could try Firefox
[17:05] <Brutus> I'll install firefox but i doubt that's the issue
[17:05] <jhutchins> Brutus: landscape?
[17:05] <Brutus> jhutchins: yes, landscape
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> Estragon: have you ran an chkdsk on it (In Windows)
[17:06] <Estragon> I tried with various devices so I don't think it's device-related
[17:06] <Brutus> jhutchins: https://landscape.canonical.com
[17:06] <Estragon> ActionParsnip: sadly no access to a windows computer :(
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> Estragon: when you come to unplug the device, do you use the safe removal feature in the OS before physically unplugging it?
[17:07] <Estragon> well, Im not removing it as the transfer never ends
[17:07] <Estragon> and I formatted it beforehand
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> bendavisnc: if you can pastebin the output t will be readable and useful
[17:07] <jhutchins> Hm, looks like Satellite for Ubuntu.
[17:07] <Brutus> yeah
[17:08] <Brutus> free if used locally up to 20 servers
[17:08] <Joel> I'm doing a sudo chattr +i somefile, but ls -al somefile isn't showing the immutable bit, thoughts?
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> Estragon: but you said you had tried it in various devices....
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> Estragon: yeah?
[17:08] <rypervenche> Joel: lsattr somefile
[17:08] <Brutus> firefox didn't change it
[17:08] <Joel> rypervenche, oh derp.
[17:08] <jhutchins> bendavisnc: You need to disable it on the PC, otherwise it keeps trying to use it.
[17:09] <rypervenche> Joel: ^^
[17:09] <Estragon> ActionParsnip: Yup, I mean I have the issue just after formatting it. So I don't think it may be related to safe removal
[17:09] <Estragon> I mean, I don't unplug it between the format and the transfer
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> Estragon: I see, does the system have a make and model?
[17:10] <jhutchins> Estragon: I think you should at least remount it.
[17:12] <Brutus> no other ideas regarding landscape?
[17:12] <jhutchins> Brutus: Don't they have official support procedures?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> Brutus: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> Estragon: is the drive to be used in other systems, like Windows?
[17:14] <Brutus> Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS \n \l
[17:14] <pr0ng> Hello
[17:14] <Brutus> last thing I want is the paid support procedure XD
[17:14] <Brutus> Just want to try using landscape to manage my server
[17:14] <pr0ng> I just installed some AMD drivers and now when i boot, i getstuck to the loading screen with the four little dots
[17:15] <Brutus> pr0ng: select previous state in grub menu?
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> Brutus  i guess there's paid support for Landscape... but start in #ubuntu-server
[17:15] <jhutchins> Brutus: It's really intended for managing a significant number of servers, not just one.
[17:15] <pr0ng> I can't do that
[17:15] <Brutus> ohhh there's an ubuntu-server :P
[17:15] <pr0ng> is that ctrl alt F3 ?
[17:15] <pr0ng> md-driver-installer-14.301.1001-x86.x86_64.run i run that
[17:15] <pr0ng> and then amdconfig --adapter=all --initial -f
[17:15] <jhutchins> Brutus: The IRC channels are just fellow users sharing their knowledge and experience.
[17:15] <Brutus> jhutchins: understood, but I'm only using Ubuntu at home, no use for it at work
[17:16] <Brutus> jhutchins: I'm aware
[17:16] <pr0ng> I have feeling i updated the x config..not sure
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> Brutus  close one door, another opens (whatever I mean by that)
[17:16] <Brutus> hehe
[17:16] <Brutus> I got paid support at work, using RedHat, Suse and Solaris (no support on that anymore)
[17:17] <jhutchins> !radeon
[17:17] <Brutus> oh and something called Windows, no idea what it is
[17:17] <jhutchins> Brutus: Do you use satllite?
[17:17] <pr0ng> Yeah but i need to use those drivers for some software i am running
[17:17] <Brutus> satllite?
[17:17] <Brutus> For GPS?
[17:18] <pr0ng> I can use nomchahine to remote into it but it says no sessions is active
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> pr0ng: drop to TTY1 and uninstall the driver
[17:18] <pr0ng> But I need that driver....
[17:18] <pr0ng> how do i go into TTY1
[17:19] <bujji> why umask default permissions for file is 666 directory 777
[17:19] <jhutchins> ProstheticS: Can't you get it through the Software Center?
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> Brutus: have you used this https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/clouddocs/en/Installing-Landscape.html
[17:19] <Brutus> jhutchins: you mean sattelite right? those things in the sky?
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> bujji: in $HOME ?
[17:19] <jhutchins> bujji: A directory has to be executable in order to read it.
[17:20] <bujji> jhutchins:okey,files?
[17:20] <jhutchins> Brutus: Satellite is RedHat's systems management tool - looks a lot like what landscape is trying to be.
[17:20] <Brutus> ActionParsnip: http://askubuntu.com/questions/549809/how-do-i-install-landscape-for-personal-use <- used that one
[17:20] <Brutus> ActionParsnip: the one you gave me is different, might try that
[17:21] <pr0ng> Anyone?
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> Brutus: why not the official one...note the word "official"
[17:21] <Brutus> jhutchins: ahhhh ok. No don't use it.
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> pr0ng: press CTRL + ALT + F1
[17:21] <pr0ng> Ok
[17:22] <Brutus> ActionParsnip: pff official XD.Yeah will try that one out
[17:22] <Zetta> ioria I can't seem to boot into grub for whatever reason
[17:23] <ioria> Zetta   you pressed shift ?
[17:23] <Zetta> Yep I held shift after post
[17:23] <bujji> jhutchins:for files 666?
[17:23] <jhutchins> Brutus: One of the main use cases is for managing and deploying packages from a local repository to a secure network (where machines can't see RedHat directly.
[17:24] <jhutchins> bujji: The Linux System Administrator's Guide is an excellent general resource: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Brutus: they are giving you guides...but you used Joe Somebody's guide. Seems a bit silly to me
[17:24] <jhutchins> bujji: I believe that discusses default permissions.
[17:25] <jhutchins> ActionParsnip: I'm guessing that's from pre-release.
[17:25] <Brutus> ActionParsnip: I already said XD. I'm going to use that
[17:26] <JohnDoe1972> guys while booted to ubuntu from a live usb can you access the usb ?
[17:26] <jhutchins> One of the things about all Linux, really, is that there are a lot of outdated, obsolete, and incorrect howtos available.
[17:26] <bujji> jhutchins:yes..for files 666...it will be  644 permissions
[17:26] <Zetta> ioria I held shift after post, tried a few times, different sides to *
[17:26] <ioria> Zetta   well, alternative is ESC, but usually shift works
[17:27] <jhutchins> bujji: It will be whatever the mask is set to.
[17:27] <Zetta> ioria alright well ill give shift another try then esc brb
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> bujji: is this when you use Samba and such or just making new files?
[17:28] <Brutus> ActionParsnip: guide is no longer valid. I'll figure it out, thanks
[17:28] <bujji> ActionParsnip:just making files
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> bujji: on what file system?
[17:29] <jhutchins> brunost: You might mention that to the person who posted the guide.
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> brunost: check youtube as well :)
[17:29] <ubuntu613> So I managed to get into TTY1
[17:29] <bujji> ext4
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> bujji: is it the system partition?
[17:30] <ubuntu613> but i am unsure as do what to do next
[17:30] <JohnDoe1972> hey guys need some help please
[17:30] <JohnDoe1972> guys while booted to ubuntu from a live usb can you access the usb ?
[17:30] <ubuntu613> yes
[17:31] <ubuntu613> I am looking at the xorg config file and it has been modified
[17:31] <JohnDoe1972> ubuntu613, umm how do i do this ?
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> !away > Samul|AWAY
[17:31] <bsdtux> Does anyone know of a few links that details how to troubleshoot / get started fixing bugs. I went through http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/fixing-a-bug.html but I was looking for something more along the lines of techniques.
[17:31] <bujji> jhutchins:how can i download that book?
[17:31] <bsdtux> I am very interested in getting involved with doing more than just helping out on forums.
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> !contribute | bsdtux start here
[17:33] <bsdtux> ok cool. Also are there mentors that can help out when needed to help you get that first push in the right direction?
[17:34] <JohnDoe1972> guys where should the usb pen drive appear and how do i access it ?
[17:34] <JohnDoe1972> in ubuntu ?
[17:34] <bujji> media
[17:34] <JohnDoe1972> media folder ?
[17:35] <Xeth> question i am planning on moving from windows to ubuntu but one thing i cant get right yet which is holding me back so, i have a 3tb full of stuff on my pc that i was using in windows, now that drive is not showing in ubuntu anyone know why that could be?
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> JohnDoe1972  in /media/
[17:36] <JohnDoe1972> ok im on the desktop . i dont see that ! i have drives on the launcher but they dont have my usb showen
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Xeth: have you ran a chkdsk on the partition?
[17:36] <bsdtux> Xeth it could be that you are missing the fuse library which will normally mount NTFS partitions. Assuming that is what the drive is formated with.
[17:37] <baja> helllo
[17:37] <baja> i cant see aria i have just downloaded it using terminal
[17:37] <bujji> JohnDoe1972:mount
[17:38] <Xeth> the hdd is working perfectly on windows its a GUID partition that was formatted in windows would like to not format it again as there is alot on it and dont have anywhere to move stuff to
[17:38] <jhutchins> Xeth: Which version of Windows?
[17:38] <baja> aria download manager
[17:38] <Xeth> 8.1
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Xeth: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[17:38] <baja> I want to use aria2 on ubuntu
[17:38] <baja> i downloaded it using terminal
[17:38] <baja> how do i open it
[17:38] <Xeth> in not on the ubuntu os atm on windows
[17:38] <ubuntu613> fuck this
[17:38] <JohnDoe1972> mount what ? im sorry but im new and one word explanations are unhelpfull and display arrogance that you expect a new usaer to understand what you mean
[17:39] <baja> please can anyone assist
[17:39] <SchrodingersScat> baja: aria2
[17:39] <baja> yes
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> baja: in a terminal, type aria   then press TAB a few times
[17:39] <JohnDoe1972> guys where should the usb pen drive appear and how do i access it ?
[17:39] <bujji> enter mount command and see
[17:39] <Xeth> on the launch bar as far as i know
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> JohnDoe1972: in the left panel of Nautilus if it is ok
[17:39] <baja> then....
[17:39] <SchrodingersScat> baja: it's actually aria2c on my 15.04
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> baja: does it generate any commands which may be runnable?
[17:40] <JohnDoe1972> ActionParsnip, im using ubuntu
[17:40] <baja> so many
[17:40] <baja> which do i pick
[17:40] <JohnDoe1972> on a live image on a usb
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> JohnDoe1972: what file system is the USB using?
[17:40] <JohnDoe1972> where do i find nautalus
[17:40] <baja> many which should i use
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> baja: well, I cant read your screen and my psychic powers are off today
[17:40] <baja> hehe
[17:40] <baja> funny
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> JohnDoe1972: its the default file browser in Ubuntu
[17:40] <jhutchins> Xeth: The problem is most likely that Windows is hibernating instead of shutting down.  There are a couple of ways to fix this - I'm not sure if you can force a shutdown with the normal menus, but if you google "mount windows 8.1 partition in linux" you'll get a bunch of ways to deal with it.
[17:40] <baja> .adobe
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> baja: if you pastebin the text, we can advise
[17:41] <baja> how do i do that
[17:41] <JohnDoe1972> umm
[17:41] <baja> adobe/               .gimp-2.8/            .supertux2/
[17:41] <baja> .bash_history         .gnome2/              Templates/
[17:41] <baja> .bash_logout          .gnome2_private/      .thumbnails/
[17:41] <baja> .bashrc               .ICEauthority         Videos/
[17:41] <baja> .cache/               .local/               .viminfo
[17:41] <baja> .config/              .macromedia/          watch
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> baja: copy the text and go to http://pastie.org   put the text there and hit the paste button. When the page changes, copy the new URL in the address bar and paste here
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> baja: or that happens. Why do you think I said to pastebin the text....??
[17:43]  * ActionParsnip sighs
[17:44] <Zetta> ioria I was able to boot into grub and add acpi=nolapic i can't really tell if it worked right now because I can't tell what the batteries charge should be, thank you for your help though and you may see me back here
[17:44] <diomba> has anybody tried to play The Witcher 2 on Ubuntu here?
[17:44] <diomba> using wine of course
[17:45] <ioria> Zetta   ok, but remember that edit grub at boot, it's only temporary, to make it permanent you have to edit /etc/default/grub and run update-grub
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> diomba: did you check the Wine AppDB for compatibility?
[17:45] <baja> http://pastie.org/10255171
[17:45] <baja> thats the url
[17:45] <baja> is it correct
[17:46] <julian-delphiki> baja that pastie has been removed?
[17:46] <Zetta> ioria yea I will remember to do that if it is working, thanks again
[17:46] <diomba> what is a WineAppDB, ActionParsnip?
[17:46] <ioria> Zetta  Good Luck
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> baja: you need to put your text in the box, then hit paste
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> diomba: you really want me to tell you something you can find out online?
[17:46] <baja> let me try again
[17:47] <OerHeks> The Witcher 2 https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=13079
[17:47] <diomba> sorry, thanks by the way ActionParsnip. Thats very helpful
[17:47] <diomba> I mean your info on Wine AppDB ActionParsnip
[17:47] <baja> http://pastie.org/10255174
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> diomba: you have a computer connected to THE largest information database known to mankind, instead of searching stuff out and leaving people to help others, you want us to tell you stuff you can find online...think about it yeah
[17:48] <OerHeks> diomba, maybe playonlinux is a helpfull tool
[17:48] <baja> is that ok
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> baja: nice, you can now pastebin :)
[17:48] <SCHAAP137> PlayOnLinux is nice, i've used it for a few games
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> baja: did you type the word "aria" first?
[17:48] <baja> how do i paste bin
[17:49] <baja> where do i right aria
[17:49] <baja> write aria
[17:49] <baja> on terminal
[17:49] <baja> or pastie.org
[17:50] <brainwash_> !pastebin
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> baja: type the word "aria" without the quotes into the terminal then press TAB once, do you get commands suggested to you?
[17:51] <baja> yes
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> baja: ok, pastebin that please :)
[17:52] <baja> http://pastie.org/10255180
[17:52] <mchelen1> does anyone know if https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto is up to date? i don't see an /etc/apt/apt.conf
[17:53] <baja> can someone tell me what paste bin does
[17:53] <baja> because im not getting
[17:53] <bujji> how do i install autocad,photoshop,maya on ubuntu
[17:53] <baja> i have pasted  but i cant see change
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> baja: those are just the folders in your home directory.
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> !find aria
[17:54] <baja> oh yes
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> !info aria2
[17:54] <baja> i wanted to open aria and use it
[17:54] <baja> actually aria2
[17:54] <pbx> bujji, with proprietary software, go to the vendor's site and see if they have a linux version.  photoshop: nope
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> baja: ok, run:  sudo apt-get install aria2
[17:54] <baja> i have already
[17:54] <xangua>  bujji if you go about only wanting to run windows software in linux, you are gonna have a bad time
[17:55] <baja> installed
[17:55] <p1l0t> So I'm using ubuntu, apache2, and I have so many diferent configuration files apache2.conf, httpd.conf, ports.conf, sites-available/000-default.conf, sites-available/default-ssl.conf how do I know which one I should be using for what settings? Different sites all have the same settings in different files.
[17:55] <mchelen1> bujji: they may or may not work in wine
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> baja: then press ALT + F2 and run:  aria2     see if you get things suggested theer
[17:55] <bsdtux> Ok After going through some of the links and others that I found I think this may have been what I was looking for. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures
[17:55] <mchelen1> p1l0t: might want to ask in #httpd
[17:55] <p1l0t> mchelen1: tried no answer just yet
[17:56] <baja> how do i download video from you tube
[17:56] <baja> its asking for url
[17:56] <cheetahw26> whats the easiest way for me to block an IP in Ubuntu?
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> baja: http://linuxg.net/aria2-download-manager-how-to-use-and-install-aria2-on-linux-systems/    may help
[17:56] <bujji> baja:youtube-dl
[17:56] <julian-delphiki> cheetahw26: probably iptables.
[17:56] <baja> to download i tried youtube instead it downloaded page
[17:56] <julian-delphiki> cheetahw26: it depends on what you're trying to achieve though.
[17:56] <cheetahw26> ok...
[17:56] <baja> i want to download video
[17:57] <cheetahw26> actually now that I think of it, I'd rather divert traffic from 1 IP to another...
[17:57] <bujji> baja:youtube-dl <url>
[17:57] <baja> ok let me try
[17:57] <cheetahw26> like everything that is supposed to go here, go there instead
[17:57] <julian-delphiki> cheetahw26: to do that you'd probably have to do some sort of nat masquerading
[17:57] <bujji> mchelen1:alternatives
[17:58] <sla1580> Hi all. I have a short question. I need to sync the time for measurement reasons of my beaglebone (like raspberry pi) and my ubuntu machine (laptop). They are in the same network and I need time precision of less than 1 ms. Does anybody know if I can achieve this by using PTP (precision time protocol) or NTP? It would be sufficient enough if the laptop can be the master and the beaglebone can pull the time from the laptop.
[17:58] <pylotis> Hello!
[17:59] <bujji> ntp
[17:59] <jhutchins> sla1580: I don't know how fine you could get it with PTP, but NTP probably won't do that.
[17:59] <baja> do i need to install @bujji
[17:59] <pylotis> When I try to mount a NTFS Partition I get this error message."no object for d bus interface"
[17:59] <baja> its currently not installed
[17:59] <baja> youtube-dl is currently not installed
[18:00] <bujji> yinstall it
[18:00] <baja> should i yes or no
[18:00] <sergio-br222> Pici, there's this file in usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/map/dvipdfmx/jfontmaps/kozuka/uptex-kozuka.map , but it only says  "ugbm   UniJIS-UTF16-H   KozGoPro-Medium.otf"
[18:00] <baja> how does it work
[18:00] <jhutchins> sla1580: My home server is within .16 of it's time server, so I guess it depends on the quality of the clock.
[18:01] <jhutchins> sla1580: At work I'm struggling with VMs on a large cluster that have very unstable clocks.
[18:01] <sla1580> jhutchins 0.16s?
[18:01] <xangua> baja: I would rather use one of the hundreds addons in firefox/chrome to download videos
[18:01] <jhutchins> sla1580: I believe that's 0.16ms.
[18:01] <baja> idm?
[18:01] <sla1580> jhutchins okay - well and there you use NTP?
[18:01] <baja> does it work on ubuntu
[18:01] <jhutchins> baja: They're plugins, not Ubuntu packages.
[18:01] <sla1580> jhutchins I have read about NTP in LAN where one machine is the master and the other the client
[18:02] <baja> ok
[18:02] <jhutchins> sla1580: Yes.
[18:02] <jhutchins> sla1580: Yes, with physicals it works pretty well.
[18:02] <sla1580> jhutchins do you think I may get a better result since I can wire both machine via ethernet
[18:02] <sla1580> jhutchins and I just need a timespan of 5 minutes
[18:02] <baja> but i need to install them first right?
[18:03] <baja> like idm
[18:03] <sla1580> jhutchins afterwards I can again sync the time
[18:03] <bujji> baja:if its not there try ...apt-get install youtube-dl then use it.
[18:04] <baja> could not open lock file
[18:04] <cheetahw26> thanks
[18:04] <baja> error
[18:04] <sla1580> jhutchins i need it for my thesis - I have to do some network measurements where I do not measure the RTT rather than the one way trip time since this is the only important thing - RTT does not say anything in my case :/ So I have to stop the time on both machine to compare them afterwards
[18:04] <sla1580> machines*
[18:05] <sla1580> and therefore I need to sync them. It is just for a small test case - not for a long period of time
[18:05] <baja> wait its downloading:0)
[18:05] <bujji> baja:paste result
[18:05] <baja> setting up youtube-dl
[18:06] <jhutchins> sla1580: One of the points in your research is to determine if NTP will give you adequate resolution, or if you need the more precise PTP.
[18:06] <jhutchins> sla1580: Try it!  Doesn't cost anything!
[18:06] <baja> its back to normal
[18:06] <baja> $
[18:06] <baja> does that mean its done downloading
[18:07] <sla1580> jhutchins well actually my work has nothing to do with NTP nor PTP. I just need a mechanism that syncs the system time of my devices with each other :)
[18:07] <baja> @bujji
[18:08] <baja> it finished
[18:08] <sla1580> jhutchins I know that NTP has no special requirements on network nor hardware. How is it with PTP? Can you tell me that please? I don't get it when I read the description of it.
[18:08] <bujji> now use it))
[18:08] <baja> setting up youtube-dl date
[18:08] <kichuku> join #linux
[18:08] <baja> then its back to $
[18:09] <baja> ERROR: unable to download video data: HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
[18:09] <baja> what next
[18:09] <bujji> baja:youtube-dl <youtube url>
[18:11] <baja> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGt_JGHYEO4
[18:11] <baja> WARNING: Warning: Falling back to static signature algorithm
[18:11] <baja> ERROR: unable to download video data: HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
[18:12] <JethroTux> I have recently updated my Ubuntu Linux machine to Vivid. Since then, I have been getting kernel panics here and there. (the screen freezes and the status lights on my keyboard are blinking). It seems to happen when I'm surfing or scrolling pdf files. I tried to downclock the cpu and kernel panics are fewer.  I want to find out what is causing these kernel panics so that I may solve them. I can't seem to find any kind of log file with any kind
[18:12] <JethroTux>  of valuable information. I tried looking at all kern*.log but there are no errors. I also tried  "dmesg -w > mylogfile &" but I've found nothing useful. Where can I find more information about the kernel panics I'm getting? thanks.
[18:12] <dlam> is there like a post-it note widget thing for the desktop?
[18:13] <baja> unable to download video data
[18:13] <ojii> hi, i'm trying to mount my usb drive (it shows up in lsusb, not in fdisk), this is whats in my syslog: http://dpaste.com/2MEFSV8 any help?
[18:14] <PapaSierra> hi. i have mounted partitions /dev/sda7 (where linux is located) and i also have /dev/sda6 (notice the lower partition number). now i want to remove the /dev/sda6 partition because its no longer needed and i want to give that extra disk space to the "linux" partition. how can i do that?
[18:14] <cheetahw26> is there something special I have to do to start iptables?
[18:14] <cheetahw26> after adding the fwd, if I try to list the rules, via iptables -L it does not show them
[18:16] <baja> why error downloading?
[18:17] <baja> ERROR: unable to download video data: HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
[18:17] <Jordan_U> PapaSierra: GParted can allow you to do this (though you need to umount both partitions first). Note howver that this particular resize, "to the left", is much more IO intensive than extending a filesystem "to the right". It will involve GParted copying every block of sda7 to the left, then doing a normal resize to make it larger (extending to the right). You should always have good backups of any important data, but ...
[18:17] <SchrodingersScat> baja: works on my machine, is the video blocked from your location?
[18:17] <Jordan_U> ... it's especially good to confirm those backups before performing an operation like this one.
[18:17] <ioria> JethroTux, take a look  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/CrashdumpRecipe
[18:17] <baja> nope
[18:17] <baja> its not
[18:18] <Jordan_U> JethroTux: Also, please file a bug report with "ubuntu-bug linux".
[18:18] <SchrodingersScat> baja: can try updating youtube-dl then, sudo youtube-dl -U
[18:19] <SchrodingersScat> baja: you're using youtube-dl right? it's easiest for downloading youtubes
[18:19] <PapaSierra> Jordan_U: this is a fresh ubuntu install so no important data, but thanks. now, with GParted, does the copying/remounting happen while logged in or does it happen during boot time?
[18:19] <JethroTux> Jordan_U, where?
[18:19] <baja> It looks like you installed youtube-dl with a package manager, pip, setup.py or a tarball. Please use that to update.
[18:20] <bujji> baja:sudo apt-get update
[18:21] <Slart> Hi everyone! I'm trying to disable a certain usb-device (a joystick), it's one of 3 devices that my Roccat Tyon mouse creates when it's connected.. it might be an xinput thingy but I'm fine with just killing it some other way as well
[18:22] <knightyy> how does the system handle backport PPAs on upgrade?say I install kubuntu-ppa backport and then 15.10 comes.what happens?
[18:23] <Jordan_U> PapaSierra: You need to be booted from a different drive (or at very least different partition) than the one you're repartitioning.
[18:23] <baja>  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/youtube_dl/extractor/youtube.py", line 957, in _decrypt_signature
[18:23] <baja>     video_id, player_url, len(s)
[18:23] <baja>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/youtube_dl/extractor/youtube.py", line 331, in _extract_signature_function
[18:23] <baja>     player_type = id_m.group('ext')
[18:23] <baja> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'group'
[18:23] <Jordan_U> PapaSierra: The normal solution is to boot from a LiveCD/USB and perform the resize.
[18:24] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | baja
[18:24] <baja> ok
[18:24] <BluesKaj> knightyy, only use a 15.10 backport if you have 15.10 Wily already insatlled
[18:24] <BluesKaj> err installed
[18:24] <baja> http://pastie.org/10255214
[18:25] <knightyy> BluesKaj I am on 15.04 and want to install Plasma 5.3.1(I am on official 5.2.1),I wonder what will happen when 15.10 arrives
[18:25] <brainwash_> knightyy: what do you expect to happen?
[18:26] <baja> help i get error while trying to download you tube video using youtube -dl
[18:26] <Jordan_U> knightyy: If the packages in Ubuntu 15.10 have a higher version than the packages in the ppa you added, they will be replaced. But there could be issues where some packages are newer and others older (so you'd get a mix) or package names have changed. It's therefore best to use ppa-purge to purge any ppas before perfoming a major version upgrade.
[18:26] <BluesKaj> knightyy, you can choose the 15.04 backport on launchpad for the backport ppa
[18:27] <baja> i will be happy to download my fav music videos
[18:27] <bujji> baja :nospace youtube-dl
[18:27] <tobias_> hey all
[18:28] <tobias_> sind auch deutsche hier
[18:28] <BluesKaj> knightyy, and when you install 15.10 either by net install or live-media the ppa will be removed
[18:28] <Jordan_U> !de | tobias_
[18:29] <baja> ERROR: unable to download video data: HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
[18:29] <teward> baja: 403 suggests that you don't have access.  So you can't do that.  (That's not something *we* could help you fix)
[18:30] <teward> baja: it's possible that YouTube blocks it.
[18:30] <baja> ok
[18:30] <baja> does the url need to be inside quotes
[18:30] <JohnDoe1972> guys how do i mount a usb ?
[18:31] <teward> baja: wouldn't matter - HTTP 403 Forbidden is returned by YouTube's servers, which means you don't have access to do whatever is being requested.  Therefore, quoted or not, the command will fail
[18:32] <bujji> baja:login to your gmail account and try ....youtube-dl  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGt_JGHYEO4
[18:32] <Jordan_U> JohnDoe1972: Are you trying to access the contents of the USB drive that you are booted from?
[18:32] <JohnDoe1972> yes
[18:33] <baja> ok
[18:34] <JohnDoe1972> Jordan_U, why ? is it not possiable ?
[18:34] <Jordan_U> JohnDoe1972: Check /cdrom/.
[18:34] <JohnDoe1972> ahh ok thx
[18:35] <Jordan_U> JohnDoe1972: Note that if you used dd, rather than a tool like Ubuntu Startup Disk Creator or Unetbootin, then you won't be able to write to the USB drive as it has a read only (iso9660) filesystem.
[18:35] <baja> one video successful
[18:36] <baja> thanks friends
[18:37] <JohnDoe1972> Jordan_U, the cd rom folder is empty
[18:37] <baja> now is it possible to confuse you tube so that i can download forbidden video
[18:38] <Jordan_U> JohnDoe1972: Please pastebin the output of "mount".
[18:38] <BluesKaj> baja, this not the place to ask such a question
[18:38] <BluesKaj> !legal | baja
[18:38] <baja> ok
[18:38] <JohnDoe1972> my laptop has no internet acesss :/
[18:39] <JohnDoe1972> and i dont understand you instruction anyway
[18:39] <JohnDoe1972> im on my desktop currentlyand its not got linux
[18:39] <baja> i hate this forbidden :(
[18:40] <baja> on windows with idm it was possible
[18:41] <baja> i wasnt forbidden
[18:41] <baja> this is not good
[18:41] <Lou___> Hello
[18:41] <baja> does this mean i have to reinstall windows
[18:41] <baja> to download videos forbidden
[18:41] <OerHeks> baja, please stop this rant.
[18:42] <baja> then help me
[18:42] <Lou___> hi, i got a question about the mounting on ubuntu
[18:43] <BluesKaj> baja, I assume you installed youtube-dl , perhaps you have to register to join the youtube group you're trying to download from
[18:43] <Lou___> would be nice if someone could lend me a few minutes
[18:43] <Jordan_U> baja: We don't always have answers. That doesn't give you an allowance to rant. If you know how to fix this issue for yourself in Windows, then maybe re-installing Windows is a good idea for you. What you can't do, is simply complain in a channel full of volunteers.
[18:44] <Jordan_U> Lou___: Please ask it :)
[18:44] <ioria> !info cclive
[18:44] <baja> im thinking of trying idm as my last resort
[18:45] <baja> how do i get idm on ubuntu
[18:45] <Lou___> since 2 or 3 months ago the automounted usb-drives sometimes are mount with root-priv
[18:46] <Lou___> so no rw for the rest of the users
[18:46] <andybrine> Im wondering if anyone can help. Everytime I run Firefox in Ubuntu 15.04 it crashes
[18:46] <baja> does anyone use idm to download you tube videos on ubuntu
[18:46] <andybrine> has anyone else experienced this?
[18:46] <Jordan_U> baja: http://askubuntu.com/questions/496417/youtube-dl-not-working
[18:46] <Lou___> i have to change everything with chown and sometime even additionally with chmod
[18:47] <baja> its working for other videos but not all
[18:47] <baja> im interested in music videos in particular
[18:47] <baja> which i cant download
[18:48] <baja> music videos
[18:48] <baja> thats my problem
[18:48] <brainwash_> andybrine: open a terminal window and run "firefox -safe-mode"
[18:48] <Jordan_U> baja: There is no need to repeat yourself.
[18:48] <bujji> baja:stop baja
[18:48] <baja> ok
[18:49] <mce__> hi! I'm trying to get an internal laptop (sony vaio z) wwan (UMTS) device to work. the device seems to be at least somehow detected and initialized during startup (http://pastebin.com/1MqTvtL0), but then I can't find the device in 'lsusb'. where should I investigate?
[18:49] <BluesKaj> baja, check my pm
[18:49] <baja> my email is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:49] <andybrine> ok, I will give that a shot brainwash_
[18:49] <mce__> all the guides I checked assume the device is listed in 'lsusb'. but it is not
[18:49] <baja> blueskaj what?
[18:50] <baja> what do you mean pm im new here
[18:50] <Lou___> quiet confusing to see if someone is answering
[18:50] <mce__> re: [    8.065273] usbserial: USB Serial support registered for Qualcomm USB modem <- can I find out more about what's happening here?
[18:50] <BluesKaj> private  message , baja
[18:50] <bujji> baja:find tab on this
[18:52] <bujji> baja:click on any user and ask query.
[18:54] <csb> baja http://keepvid.com/
[18:55] <baja> thanks friends
[18:55] <baja> you been very kind
[18:55] <baja> :)
[18:55] <csb> baja were you able to download what you wanted?
[18:55] <pbx> andybrine, what FF version? when did this problem start? any info in logs? crashes even when you start in safe mode?
[18:55] <Lou___> since 2 or 3 months ago the automounted usb-drives sometimes are mount with root-priv.....so no rw for the rest of the users.... does anyone has an idea whats doing this
[18:56] <baja> @csb still working on it
[18:56] <csb> baja did you try keepvid.com ?
[18:56] <baja> let me try
[18:56] <fwaokda> what's the correct way to take the following code and remove the if statement? I want ":evaluations" to have a where clause where I can filter the records at that level. https://gist.github.com/daveomcd/184ac22bb79998675cd2
[18:57] <pbx> fwaokda, join #ruby
[18:57] <JavaAtom> I have several 14.04 hosts on Google Compute Platform that are filling up /tmp with mkinitramfs entries. How can I stop this from happening?
[18:57] <JavaAtom> * /tmp lives on root, which is only ~10GB in size and a full root stops me from being able to ssh into the host
[18:58] <fwaokda> pbx whoops thanks! :)
[18:58] <pbx> or perhaps #rails
[19:00] <baja> nope its not working keep vid
[19:00] <csb> baja in what sense?
[19:01] <csb> baja where is the error?
[19:01] <baja> its telling me to download livid
[19:01] <baja> ilivid
[19:01] <csb> you don't have to download anything
[19:01] <csb> put the link in there, click Download, then select one of the formats
[19:02] <baja> ok
[19:02] <SCHAAP137> iLivid is adware/malware, don't use it
[19:02] <SCHAAP137> you might have clicked the wrong download button
[19:02] <Kartagis> hi
[19:03] <Kartagis> I've got two phones here, both Samsung. both connected as media device. one gives the error libmtp: cannot send object while other doesn't. I'm on ubuntu 14.04
[19:03] <Kartagis> I've got mtpfs installed
[19:04] <baja> how do i use flare
[19:04] <Kartagis> gives the said error when copying a  large file
[19:05] <csb> baja, Try to give a context to the question you ask, do not just ask and wait for the perfect answer. Give the description of the initial problem. All you need is to download videos from YouTube?
[19:06] <Tai15> I have an active domain with a SAMBA fileserver using winbind and a NAS. When I use rdiff-backup to back up to the NAS, it copies over the UID and GID instead of uname and gname. What's the best way to copy them over with the uname and gname?
[19:06] <baja> ok i need to download you tube videos using flare . i have downloaded flare hwo do i use
[19:07] <BluesKaj> baja, click on the flare deb file your /home user/Downloads then you click on the browser that you want to use with when flareget dialog show on your desktop
[19:07] <Kartagis> baja: why do you need to use flare? there is youtube-dl
[19:07] <BluesKaj>  /home/user/Downloads
[19:07] <baja> i cant see flare in downloads folder
[19:08] <BluesKaj> Kartagis, he wants the forbidden files
[19:08] <csb> Use Tor.
[19:08] <Kartagis> okay
[19:08] <andybrine> pbx apologies for the late reply
[19:08] <Kartagis> correction: both phones give the same error
[19:08] <andybrine> I have just seen this
[19:09] <csb> baja, Use Tor to hide your location, then download the videos...
[19:09] <csb> baja, Do you know what Tor is?
[19:09] <andybrine> It problem has been happening for quite a while now
[19:09] <baja> where are my download files i cant see any
[19:09] <BluesKaj> where are your default downloads going to then,. baja?
[19:09] <baja> i dont know imagine
[19:09] <baja> i have downloaded vim i cant see also
[19:10]  * BluesKaj is tired of holding hands ...BBL
[19:10] <csb> baja, How did you download? Command-line? Browser?
[19:10] <csb> baja, You're changing the subject very fast...stick to the problem please
[19:10] <baja> using terminal
[19:11] <Pici> baja: what did you type?
[19:11] <Jordan_U> csb: baja: Please do not use or recommend tor for mostly frivolous downloading of large files. Tor is a very slow service, with very high overhead and resources of a large community, and slowing down the network with large downloads hurts dissidents that need it to protect their lives.
[19:11] <ioria> Jordan_U,  up ^
[19:11] <BluesKaj> tor is practically useless for DLing larg files , it's throttled
[19:11] <baja> i use terminal sudo apt-get to download stuff
[19:11] <mentoc> I want to send emails out from localhost. I will be sending them via php's mail() function. What are my first steps?
[19:12] <baja> but i dont know where they go
[19:12] <baja> can any one tell me
[19:12] <mentoc> baja: why do you want to know where they are?
[19:12] <BluesKaj> baja, where did the videos go that you DL'd baja
[19:12] <Tai15> yeah, if you really need to spoof your location to download large files, you should be paying for a VPN
[19:12] <Pici> baja: they get installed to wherever they're supposed to be installed into.  The executables should end up into your $PATH so you should just be able to run them by typing their names.
[19:13] <Pici> baja: so if you installed vim, you should just be able to type    vim    in a terminal and it will open it.
[19:13] <baja> /home/baja
[19:13] <BluesKaj> Pici, it's a deb file and he can't find it
[19:13] <Pici> BluesKaj: He said he installed from apt-get
[19:13] <baja> my video installed in home/baja/
[19:13] <csb> what a mess
[19:14] <BluesKaj> vim but not the flareget
[19:14] <baja> now i need access flareget
[19:14] <Pici> BluesKaj: I'm having a hard time following this conversation ;)
[19:14] <baja> so that i download
[19:14] <BluesKaj> baja, the look for flareget in /home/baja
[19:14] <baja> i cant see it
[19:14] <BluesKaj> this is hopeless
[19:14] <baja> well its not there
[19:15] <BluesKaj> flareget_4.2-92_amd64.deb
[19:15] <Kartagis> I've got two phones here, both Samsung. they give the error libmtp: cannot send object. I'm on ubuntu 14.04
[19:15] <Anthaas> Hi guys - my laptop doesn't want to let me log in.
[19:16] <csb> baja type this in terminal: find / -name "flareget_4.2-92_amd64.deb" 2>/dev/null
[19:16] <Anthaas> When I enter the correct password, it goes to log in, and then chucks me straight back to the log in page.
[19:17] <OerHeks> baja sudo apt-get install > it installs, and does not download to ~/Downloads, the software is in your menu now, or available on comandline
[19:17] <zykotick9> Anthaas: try logging into VT (ctrl+alt+f1) and running, "ls -l ~/.Xauthority" is it owned by your user, or root?
[19:17] <DJones> Kartagis: I think before anybody can help you, you'll need to give more information, which phones (ie model number etc), pastebins of dmesg when you plug each phone in etc, at the momemt, I'm assuming you've got this phone http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/articles/149860-thumb/samsung-sh-100.jpg
[19:17] <ice9> after installing 15.04 the cpu fan is always running which doesn't happen in other distributions,  it was said that Unity may be the cause so I installed gnome-shell but the fan still running too!
[19:17] <baja> thanks Oerheks for clearinpg that u
[19:17] <Kartagis> DJones: GalaxyA3 and Galaxy S5 Mini
[19:18] <baja> so i downloaded flareget
[19:18] <baja> but its not in downloads
[19:18] <Kartagis> DJones: cute :)
[19:18] <baja> where suppossedly can it be
[19:18] <csb> baja how did you download?
[19:18] <csb> baja Firefox?
[19:18] <baja> through the web
[19:18] <baja> net
[19:18] <baja> yes firefox
[19:18] <Pici> baja: Did you use a program to download it?
[19:18] <ioria> Anthaas,  check your .Xuthority file , should be owned by you, not by root
[19:19] <baja> no
[19:19] <csb> hahahahaha
[19:19] <Tai15> ice9, look into the lm-sensors and fancontrol packages but be careful because you can fry your CPU, also check your BIOS or UEFI to see if you have fan controsl there
[19:19] <csb> baja, type this in terminal to find your file: find / -name "flareget_4.2-92_amd64.deb" 2>/dev/null
[19:19] <Anthaas> Checking now, thanks zykotick9 and ioria
[19:19] <Pici> baja: no you didn't use a program called firefox to download it?
[19:19] <csb> Pici haha
[19:19] <baja> i used firefox
[19:20] <baja> not anyother prog
[19:20] <csb> baja Firefox = program
[19:20] <baja> ok
[19:20] <csb> baja It usually has a default path to save downloaded files
[19:20] <Anthaas> Ok
[19:20] <csb> baja And the default path is usually /home/[your username]/Downloads
[19:20] <Anthaas> its not even letting me at my xauthority file
[19:20] <Anthaas> Saying incorrect password, but it isnt.
[19:21] <ioria> Anthaas,  you are at console ?
[19:21] <Anthaas> At log in screen.
[19:21] <baja> my default is usr bin software center
[19:21] <csb> baja Open Firefox -> Go to Downloads -> Right click in the download -> Open folder
[19:21] <Anthaas> Can be at VT again if you like
[19:21] <DJones> Kartagis: Just wondering whether its something to do with mass storage options in Android
[19:21] <baja> its not on download folder sorry
[19:22] <andybrine> has anyone here got any experience with the latest ubuntu phone?
[19:22] <csb> baja Then download again, and save to the correct place
[19:22] <Pici> andybrine: #ubuntu-touch would be the best place to ask
[19:22] <zykotick9> !phone | andybrine
[19:22] <baja> i can see it in software center as installed
[19:22] <andybrine> awesome! Thanks
[19:23] <andybrine> Is that an irc chat then?
[19:23] <csb> baja Then you didn't save you executed straight away and installed it
[19:23] <ioria> Anthaas,  can you open a console ?
[19:23] <baja> yes
[19:23] <zykotick9> andybrine: yes, try "/join #ubuntu-touch"
[19:23] <csb> baja So just use it now...
[19:23] <Anthaas> ioria How can that be done from log in screen? I can get VT up?
[19:23] <baja> how i can access
[19:23] <ioria> Anthaas,  ctr-alt-f2
[19:24] <baja> its telling me to reinstall
[19:24] <Anthaas> ioria: ctrl-alt-f2 does nothing?
[19:24] <ioria> Anthaas,  ctr-alt-f1
[19:24] <Anthaas> Yep
[19:24] <Anthaas> Black screen now
[19:24] <Anthaas> no $
[19:25] <Anthaas> but the cursor is there at the start of the screen
[19:25] <ioria> Anthaas,  no prompt ?
[19:25] <Anthaas> Nope
[19:25] <Anthaas> asking for log in
[19:25] <ioria> Anthaas,  that's a prompt
[19:25] <ioria> Anthaas,  log in
[19:25] <Anthaas> I can't. Its not accepting the password :/
[19:26] <Anthaas> I have not changed this at all.
[19:26] <ioria> Anthaas,  weird
[19:26] <zykotick9> !lostpassword | Anthaas
[19:27] <Anthaas> I haven't lost it.
[19:27] <Anthaas> I haven't changed it.
[19:27] <Anthaas> Its just not accepting it.
[19:27] <ioria> Anthaas,  any caps lock, faulty keyboard ?
[19:27] <zykotick9> "computer says no" ;)
[19:27] <Anthaas> Nope, and nope.
[19:27] <ioria> wow
[19:28] <ioria> Anthaas,  try recovery from grub
[19:28] <Anthaas> If I go to log in with an incorrect password on the log in screen, it will say "Incorrect Password"
[19:28] <Anthaas> If I type the correct one, it starts to log in, and then throws me back to log in screen
[19:28] <tgm4883> Anthaas: well that's completely different
[19:28] <tgm4883> Anthaas: sounds like something's crashing
[19:29] <Anthaas> something wrong in .profile?
[19:29] <tgm4883> Anthaas: Anything in ~/.xsession-errors
[19:29] <Anthaas> I cant log in to see anything
[19:29] <Anthaas> ctrl alt f1 asks me to log in before doing anything
[19:29] <ioria> tgm4883, he cannor login
[19:29] <ioria> Anthaas,  try recovery from grub
[19:29] <tgm4883> Anthaas: right, so login to teh ctrl-alt-f1 session
[19:30] <Anthaas> Ok, I'll have to look into how to do that
[19:30] <Anthaas> tgm4883: I can't it isnt accepting it.
[19:30] <tgm4883> ioria: my understanding is that he's logging in successfully and thrown back to the login screen
[19:30] <ioria> tgm4883, maybe
[19:30] <Kartagis> DJones: http://paste.debian.net/257144/ is  what I get
[19:30] <zykotick9> andybrine: fyi, that lost password link has the instructions...
[19:31] <zykotick9> Anthaas: ^^, sorry andybrin-e
[19:31] <tgm4883> Anthaas: sorry, I just need a little clarification. after you hit ctrl-alt-f1 it takes you to a black screen with a login prompt and it won't let you login there?
[19:31] <Jordan_U> Anthaas: What happens when you try to login at the text tty?
[19:31] <Anthaas> tgm4883: Correct.
[19:31] <tgm4883> Anthaas: what happens there?
[19:31] <zykotick9> Jordan_U: "incorrect password" we are told.
[19:31] <Anthaas> tgm4883: "Log in Incorrect"
[19:31] <OerHeks> caps shift enabled, by accident?
[19:32] <ioria> nope
[19:32] <Anthaas> Caps is not enabled.
[19:32] <tgm4883> Anthaas: probably the easiest solution is to just reset the password from recovery
[19:32] <zykotick9> tgm4883: +1
[19:32] <Anthaas> Loading into recovery now.
[19:33] <Anthaas> Recovery Menu -> resume/clean/dpkg/failsafeX/fsck/grub/network/root/system-summary
[19:33] <Anthaas> Im assuming Im wanting grub?
[19:33] <tgm4883> Anthaas: root
[19:34] <Anthaas> Ahh there we go, now should I run ls -l ~/.Xauthority ?
[19:34] <baja> csb
[19:34] <ioria> Anthaas,  no, just paste it here
[19:34] <ioria> Anthaas,  yes, sorry
[19:34] <alex1114> (alex1114) Hi, I have xubuntu 14.04 on a laptop  for a few months now.. I do all the updates.. today the laptop creezed and after restart I got a message "error: invalid arch-independent ELF magic"  and the laptop enters in rescue mode.. I don't have a live cd and no means to get one today.. is there anything I can do?
[19:35] <Anthaas> "No such file or directory"
[19:35] <zykotick9> Anthaas: ahh, if the prompt shows # instead of $, then use "ls -l /home/YOURUSERNAME/.Xauthority"
[19:35] <Anthaas> Ahh it does
[19:35] <ioria> Anthaas,  with ls -al .Xauthority
[19:35] <Jordan_U> alex1114: Do you have more than one hard drive in this laptop?
[19:35] <alex1114> Jordan_U: Nope and only one os..
[19:35] <Anthaas> No
[19:36] <zykotick9> Anthaas: BUT, i think you should also change your users password...
[19:36] <Anthaas> Still saying no such file...
[19:36] <ioria> Anthaas,  pwd  ?
[19:36] <Jordan_U> alex1114: Not even an SD card?
[19:36] <Kartagis> soooooo
[19:36] <Kartagis> anyone?
[19:37] <Anthaas> it says /root
[19:37] <ioria> Anthaas,  cd /home/user
[19:37] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: Such messages are not productive. Please actually repeat your question (in one line) if you haven't had a response in many minutes.
[19:37] <baja> i have installed flareget
[19:38] <baja> how do i use it to download video
[19:38] <Anthaas> ioria: Im in /home/usr now
[19:38] <Kartagis> I've got two phones here, both Samsung. they give the error libmtp: cannot send object. I'm on ubuntu 14.04
[19:38] <ioria> Anthaas, ls -al  .Xauthority
[19:38] <alex1114> Jordan_U: no sd card and no cd.. I've restarted it a few times and now it starts normally.. any idea what could have caused this?
[19:38] <Anthaas> No such file
[19:39] <OerHeks> baja, step 1: pay for it > http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/flareget-is-great-download-manager-for.html
[19:39] <OerHeks> :_D
[19:39] <Jordan_U> baja: This channel doesn't support the proprietary "flareget" application. Please use their support facilities.
[19:39] <Anthaas> Oh I want in home/user
[19:39] <Anthaas> I can't get anywhere past home/
[19:39] <Anthaas> I was in /usr
[19:40] <ioria> Anthaas, no,
[19:40] <zykotick9> Anthaas: to reset your user's password, from a # prompt you should be able to "passwd YOURUSERNAME" to reset it, then try logging into another VT, like ctrl+alt+f3
[19:40] <ioria> Anthaas, your user, your home
[19:40] <tgm4883> Anthaas: did you have /home on a separate partition?
[19:40] <alex1114> Jordan_U: thank you for your time
[19:40] <Anthaas> ioria: /home/chris does not exist
[19:41] <Anthaas> Oh lovely.
[19:41] <Anthaas> "Chris" does not exist.
[19:41] <zykotick9> Anthaas: what does "ls /home/" show?
[19:41] <Anthaas> Ummm
[19:41] <Anthaas> Where has my user profile gone...
[19:41] <tgm4883> Anthaas: can you pastebin /etc/fstab
[19:41] <Anthaas> ioria: Nothing.
[19:42] <Jordan_U> Anthaas: Your username is likely "chris" rather than "Chris". Case matters.
[19:42] <qwd> baja: not sure what exactly you're trying to do but I read a few messages and it seems like you want to download youtube videos? If so you could try https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/
[19:42] <ioria> Anthaas, cat /etc/fstab ? can you paste it ?
[19:42] <Anthaas> Sure, give me a sec, Ill have to type it up!
[19:42] <tgm4883> that is bound to have issues
[19:43] <tgm4883> does recovery have networking?
[19:43] <tgm4883> Anthaas: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[19:43] <ioria> should be enavled
[19:43] <Anthaas> Network is unreachable
[19:43] <tgm4883> ok
[19:43] <zykotick9> ioria: are you checking if /home is a separate partition (or something else?), perhaps "grep home /etc/fstab" could confirm/deny?  re: Anthaas
[19:44] <ioria> yup
[19:44] <tgm4883> zykotick9: yea that's what we're checking
[19:44] <Jordan_U> Anthaas: You can also take pictures of your screen with your phone or similar and upload them to http://imgur.com .
[19:44] <Anthaas> Thats a better should, thanks Jordan_U
[19:44] <tgm4883> we could also just try to mount it...
[19:45] <Kartagis> anyone?
[19:47] <OerHeks> Kartagis, make sure the phones are unlocked, seems to help
[19:47] <Anthaas> Right: http://imgur.com/8R6al3Q
[19:47] <Jordan_U> Kartagis: Again, "anyone?" is never a useful message. Please don't post it in this channel.
[19:48] <tgm4883> Anthaas: do 'mount /home' then check 'ls -l /home'
[19:48] <Kartagis> Jordan_U: I've got two phones here, both Samsung. they give the error libmtp: cannot send object. I'm on ubuntu 14.04
[19:48] <zykotick9> ioria: tgm4883 and home is a separate partition ;)
[19:48] <Kartagis> OerHeks: they are
[19:48] <Anthaas> tgm4883: No such file or directory after mount
[19:48] <ioria> not mounting
[19:48] <Anthaas> the ls failed that is
[19:49] <Anthaas> Please give me 2 seconds to load a new IRC client
[19:49] <tgm4883> Anthaas: the mount didn't fail?
[19:49] <Anthaas> This one keeps freezing
[19:49] <tgm4883> Anthaas: hmm
[19:49] <Anthaas> tgm4883: No, the mount didnt fail
[19:49] <Anthaas> the ls after did
[19:49] <Anthaas> Said No such file or directory
[19:50] <tgm4883> Anthaas: but the directory existed before, so it should exist now...
[19:50] <tgm4883> Anthaas: can you do 'mount' and imgur the output?
[19:50] <Anthaas> Ahh it does
[19:50] <Anthaas> home/chris now exists
[19:50] <tgm4883> yea thats what I thought :)
[19:50] <Anthaas> Right
[19:50] <Anthaas> My Xauthority output
[19:51] <Anthaas> -rw------- 1 chris chris 73 Jun 23 20:22 .Xauthority
[19:51] <ioria> it's ok
[19:52] <tgm4883> Anthaas: anything in .xsession-errors
[19:52] <Anthaas> Yes
[19:52] <Anthaas> there is an error in .profile?
[19:52] <Anthaas> Syntax error :S
[19:52] <Anthaas> I havent touched it
[19:53] <diego12345> im having some trouble with my laptop right now which i just installed ubuntu 12.04.02, it freezes when i open a couple of applications.. do you think it has something to do with bad installation?
[19:53] <ioria> Anthaas, open it see it there's something weird
[19:53] <Anthaas> Right - there was a random # after a then
[19:54] <Anthaas> continued the boot - and Im in
[19:54] <Anthaas> Thank you SO much ioria and tgm4883
[19:54] <ioria> Anthaas, wait, rebootmaybe
[19:54] <pbx> diego12345, not that the old version is *necessarily* the problem, but -- can you install a newer version?
[19:54] <tgm4883> strange, but I'm glad it's working now
[19:54] <Anthaas> Thank you both so very much!
[19:55] <Jordan_U> tgm4883: For future reference, if you cd to a directory and then mount over it, until you change directory again the current working directory is the *directory* you were in, not the path you were in. So "cd /empty_directory/; mount /dev/something /empty_directory'; ls" will still print no results from "ls", even though "ls $PWD" will list files.
[19:55] <ioria> no problem
[19:55] <diego12345> im sorry, i meant 14.04.02, my bad
[19:55] <tgm4883> Jordan_U: oh I didn't think he was in that directory
[19:55] <tgm4883> good to know though
[19:55] <histo> diego12345: what application are you opening when it hangs?
[19:55] <Anthaas> Ahhh
[19:56] <pbx> diego12345, hard freezes are very unusual. is that what you're describing? also, what histo asked
[19:56] <Jordan_U> tgm4883: I'm not sure that was the case, but it would (somewhat) explain the confusion.
[19:56] <Anthaas> It would seem installing gradle has changed my .profile
[19:56] <ioria> could be
[19:56] <diego12345> usually when im browsing
[19:56] <Anthaas> Yeah, there is a GRADLE_HOME variable there now
[19:56] <Kartagis> noone to help with my issue?
[19:56] <Anthaas> and my path is now export PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH:$GRADLE_HOME/bin
[19:57] <ioria> Anthaas, how did you install it ?
[19:57] <diego12345> well, what happens is like this.. i can still move the mouse but the programs arent responsive anymore.. i cant close them when i click x
[19:57] <Anthaas> wget
[19:57] <Anthaas> then errr
[19:57] <Anthaas> one sec
[19:57] <Anthaas> I forget the next command haha
[19:57] <ioria> Anthaas, if possible,use always apt-get
[19:57] <Anthaas> Ahh will do thanks :-)
[19:57] <histo> diego12345: which browser are you using?
[19:58] <ioria> Anthaas, you're wellcomew
[19:58] <hugegreenbug> diego12345: which laptop?
[19:58] <diego12345> chromium and mozilla, but i use chormium more, im using sony vaio vgn-cs31s
[19:58] <Ice_Strike> On pfsense, I will setup openvpn client, configured as a vpn gateway. On Ubuntu VM, how do I setup to use VPN connection?
[19:59] <Ice_Strike> Maybe routing or someting?
[19:59] <Ice_Strike> something
[19:59] <histo> Ice_Strike: network manager
[20:00] <hugegreenbug> diego12345: are you using the proprietary nvidia driver? If not, you should try it
[20:00] <histo> !info network-manager-openvpn
[20:00] <histo> Ice_Strike: ^^
[20:00] <diego12345> also is it normal that when i boot my laptop after a moment its just black and when i press esc then some codes appear asking me for password.. one of the codes i saw was "unlocking the disk" then after it goes a series of codes
[20:01] <diego12345> where can i get the driver? from the sony support?
[20:01] <kwah> diego12345, the laptop specs are pretty standard. should run just fine. try nvidia drivers... as hugegreenbug suggests.
[20:01] <histo> diego12345: sounds like you chose to use disk encryption
[20:01] <OerHeks> diego12345, sure, if you choose encrypted disk/home
[20:02] <kwah> diego12345, driver -> in system settings.
[20:03] <kwah> diego12345, then Software & Updates, if I remember correctly
[20:03] <diego12345> let me try that, thanks for the help
[20:11] <Anthaas> How can I change what my $PATH is on boot?
[20:12] <Fuchs> Anthaas: how early in the process and, more important, why?
[20:12] <Anthaas> So I have a folder on the $PATH so I can use it whenever I need without the fully qualified path, and at any point before I open my first terminal.
[20:12] <oss_newbie> good evening gentlemen
[20:13] <rmarcelino> Hey all
[20:13] <k1l_> Anthaas: what about ~/bin ?
[20:13] <ahoneybun> welcome rmarcelino
[20:13] <Anthaas> Sounds good, but how do I add it to my $PATH by default?
[20:14] <rmarcelino> So I am looking at replacing windows in my students labs with Edubuntu
[20:14] <oss_newbie> hold you phones for a minute i have a nuclear question.......please
[20:14] <Anthaas> i.e. I dont have to add it every time I open terminal
[20:14] <oss_newbie> thank you
[20:14] <Jordan_U> Anthaas: It is added to $PATH at login automatically (if it exists) with the default Ubuntu .profile.
[20:14] <k1l_> Anthaas: ~/bin is in the users path automatically, just create the folder in your home and on next login it will be included
[20:14] <rmarcelino> However, it has been a long time since I have done much with Linux in general
[20:15] <oss_newbie> i want to use ubuntu...and it seems that some motherboards have serious problems such as hardware data colisions
[20:15] <Anthaas> Oh cool thanks k1, didnt know that.
[20:15] <Anthaas> Useful
[20:15] <oss_newbie> an exampple is asrock x99 extreme 11
[20:15] <rmarcelino> Looking for some resources to help me build an Edubuntu image for a computer lab PC that has the settings locked down
[20:15] <tracphil> hi all. I have a preseed that calls a script to add an aliased ip to a server whose primary IP is handed out via dhcp. When the server boots for the first time, /etc/network/interfaces is over written
[20:16] <freemej> hello. When changing permissions of a folder through a ftp client, where are the permission settings stored? htaccess file? or it has nothing to do with it.. thanks and sorry for noob question
[20:16] <tracphil> why is that?
[20:16] <oss_newbie> so...which motherboard with x99 chipset is able to handle ubuntu correctly?
[20:16] <Pau> halo?
[20:16] <oss_newbie> hold on freemej...i am the noob here for now :))
[20:17] <Pau> ah? XD
[20:17] <sonic123> im planning right now to reinstall ubuntu.. can anyone walk me through the next important steps i should do after installing ubuntu? like vitals steps
[20:17] <ahoneybun> rmarcelino: this is what I have found so far: https://www.edubuntu.org/documentation/12.04/installation-guide
[20:17] <Pau> ok
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> sonic123  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade;sudo apt-get autoremove
[20:17] <ahoneybun> I know there is a way to make a custom image
[20:17] <oss_newbie> so...does anyone from the tousand people here have any idea ho to help me on that?
[20:17] <rmarcelino> I saw those
[20:17] <Pau> hablen español :v
[20:17] <rmarcelino> I already have it installed on a test machine.
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> !es
[20:18] <k1l_> !es | Pau
[20:18] <sonic123> so about 3 commands?
[20:18] <k1l_> oss_newbie: what is the exact issue?
[20:18] <rmarcelino> I could use some help getting it locked down so the student account is unable to install or make any setting changes
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> sonic123  to start, yes
[20:18] <Pau> ah bueno y ustedes quienes son? :v
[20:18] <sonic123> can you explain what those commands do? im sorry, im really new to ubuntu.. :)
[20:19] <rmarcelino> once I have the test PC setup, I have a hardware disk duplicator I could use to replicate it
[20:19] <ahoneybun> rmarcelino: I just found that there is a edubuntu channel
[20:19] <oss_newbie> the result of the data colision is system hang.....or in the happy  cases extremely slow response of the os
[20:19] <ahoneybun>  /j #edubuntu
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> sonic123  they update your ubuntu and remove some debris$
[20:19] <rmarcelino> Oh cool!
[20:19] <brainwash_> !edubuntu
[20:19] <Pau> am.. ok?
[20:19] <rmarcelino> Heading over there now
[20:20] <sonic123> ohhh okay thanks
[20:20] <tracphil> anyone?
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> tracphil  anyone what
[20:20] <Pau> esto es raro xD
[20:20] <tracphil> MonkeyDust: I have a preseed that calls a script to add an aliased ip to a server whose primary IP is handed out via dhcp. When the server boots for the first time, /etc/network/interfaces is over written
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> tracphil  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[20:21] <tracphil> thank you!!!
[20:21] <Pau> xDD
[20:21] <k1l_> Pau: this channel is english only, so please write english or go to the spanish channel as the bot already told you.
[20:21] <oss_newbie> k1l ...the issue is that even with good drivers from nvidia for the titan x or other.....the asrock x99 extreme 11 will hang in ubuntu
[20:22] <Pau> como es la cosa aca?
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> Pau  stop
[20:22] <Jordan_U> !hcl | oss_newbie
[20:22] <k1l_> !es > Pau
[20:22] <sonic123> anyway does the commads also update my drivers?
[20:24] <oss_newbie> k1l....the problem is allready known on the motherboard mentioned ealier...it was an example....i want another alternative to that...with x99 chipset if someone knows...or has one that is fully stable
[20:25] <k1l_> oss_newbie: i could not find anyone with that motherboard having issues with ubuntu on the net. so please be way more specific. best is to run a live dvd/usb or isntall it and then come here so we can have a look.
[20:27] <baja> hi
[20:27] <baja> i have no audio sound i cant listen to music what might have happened?
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> oss_newbie  type /j ##hardware (double #) and ask there
[20:28] <oss_newbie> ok
[20:28] <baja> i dont understand
[20:28] <oss_newbie> ##hardware
[20:28] <oss_newbie> sorry
[20:28] <baja> ##hardware
[20:29] <baja> oss_newbie type/j##harware
[20:29] <baja> can anyone help
[20:30] <baja> sound is off i cant listen to audio
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> baja  open a terminal, type alsamixer ... if you see MM, go there and hit m to unmute
[20:31] <oss_newbie> it seems i cannot send to channel
[20:31] <br3337> baja: excellent help from a couple of users at the ubuntu forums, I would post there as well.
[20:32] <k1l_> baja: this is something to try: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[20:32] <baja> no mm
[20:33] <br3337> oss_newbie: some channels require a freenode account made, did you see any indication in the channel header?
[20:34] <oss_newbie> it sais if you cannot talk identfy with nick serv
[20:34] <Fuchs> oss_newbie: in this case see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup or /msg nickserv help register  for the short version. Make sure to use a valid e-mail address and check for a confirmation e-mail after you registered.
[20:34] <oss_newbie> if i do have to make an account on irc...forgget it
[20:35] <k1l> !register | oss_newbie
[20:35] <br3337> oss_newbie: you need an account it looks like, it blocks my post as well, no account use right now here.
[20:35] <Fuchs> (also channels have topics, not headers. And they don't have to mention that, while /mode #channel  and /mode #channel q  would)
[20:35] <th34lch3m1st> Hi, I'm on 14.04.2 notebook and I would like to set brightness on startup (works on resume but not on startup) and keep wifi alive when goes in suspend mode. There's some laptop-mode/tool to enable/install or some "acpi-support conf" like that I can use in 14.04.2?
[20:36] <oss_newbie> isnt here someone from there to tell me about that mother board problem...or others for that matter
[20:36] <br3337> topics in an header that better for you Fuchs
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> oss_newbie  maybe nobody has ever used that kind of motherboard
[20:36] <oss_newbie> i do not want to build a 4k system and to die of anger afterwards
[20:36] <k1l> oss_newbie: i already told you what to do.
[20:36] <oss_newbie> oooh
[20:36] <oss_newbie> didnt thought of that
[20:37] <oss_newbie> k1l...i didnt bought the board yet man
[20:37] <k1l> oss_newbie: you can sit here and wait untill someone comes online with that exact motherboard. but if you just repeat that question every 2 minutes untill then you will get kicked out because its annoying to the other users needing help.
[20:38] <k1l> oss_newbie: so see the !hcl or ask in forums or at askubuntu.com. irc doesnt work well with that specific requirements for the setup when its not a commonly used setup
[20:38] <wsp> hello
[20:39] <Jordan_U> oss_newbie: If you want to buy a motherboard that is known to work well with Ubuntu, then check the Hardware Compatability List that I linked you to 15 minutes ago.
[20:39] <oss_newbie> dont worry k1l i will leave quietly.....i wanted some help...i didnt get it...thank god i havent bought the pricey piece of hardware
[20:39] <wsp> Could someone possibly paste me somewhere fstab and crypptab lines for mounting root partition at boot?
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> oss_newbie  MAYBE THE PEOPLE IN ##HARDWARE CAN HELP BETTER
[20:39] <oss_newbie> k1l...hardware compatibility deals with products...way below x99 chipset
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> OOPS
[20:40] <oss_newbie> i will try if they dont want to rip information such email and stuff k1l
[20:40] <k1l> oss_newbie: we want to help you but cant since we dont have that exact hardware. so what do you want us to do now? we have given you other solutions to get a chance for an answer
[20:41] <k1l> oss_newbie: you are making it impossible to help you with your demands and attitude. so good luck
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> oss_newbie  you're in unknown territory, making an irc account may be required
[20:41] <oss_newbie> i know k1l...i know and thank you for the time given to me
[20:42] <oss_newbie> what attitude?...i do not want to give email adress...and sensitive information on an irc chat thats al k1l
[20:42] <diomba> cannot import dll iss.dll when I try to use wine
[20:42] <oss_newbie> i am sorry if i offended with that
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> oss_newbie  that way, you're restricting your own chances
[20:43] <Fuchs> oss_newbie: oh come on, you could just have created 10 free e-mail accounts in the time you ranted here
[20:43] <oss_newbie> i got stabbed once realy bad...i thought that a linux guy would understand such things
[20:43] <Fuchs> oss_newbie: help here is given by volunteers, so if they ask you for 1) needed information 2) other efforts on your side,  I recommend you go these few extra miles. Else people aren't really motivated to help you out.
[20:44] <oss_newbie> thank you for your time for now...if i find solution i will report back...so others can be helped
[20:45] <k1l> i think we can drop the help for oss_newbie now, since we know we cant help him and he will not change anything that is making him get helped. so good luck for him, but #ubuntu needs to focus on other users that actually want to be helped
[20:45] <wassup> hi there
[20:46] <wassup> could anyone possibly paste me somewhere parts of crypttab & fstab responsible for mounting the root partition at boot (in a crypted device scenario ofc)
[20:46] <k1l> !wine | diomba maybe best is to ask the wine specialists and see in their database if its a known issue with that windows program
[20:48] <Jordan_U> wassup: What is your end goal? What problem are you trying to solve?
[20:48] <wassup> Jordan_U: something messed up badly, thus my root partition does not mount atm
[20:49] <wassup> technically, I did not touch crypttab or fstab, just removed all linux/initrd content from /boot, when suddenly I had a disk failure...
[20:50] <nicechap_> every now and then, when i am on gnome terminal in ubuntu, copy/paste behaviour gets messed up. i.e. if I select a line of text on the terminal, copy it and paste it with a click on the mouse wheel, I see a my pasted text flanked by 0~ on the front and a ~ on its end... Why is this happening? (I am in gnu screen)
[20:52] <Jordan_U> wassup: So are you currently trying to boot this system, access its LUKS encrypted root fs from a LiveCD/USB, or something else?
[20:52] <wassup> Jordan_U: No. I am trying to put it back to its standard use.
[20:53] <wassup> I can access it easily from an exterial media.
[20:53] <wassup> Yet, that is not the case.
[20:54] <Jordan_U> wassup: OK. Why did you remove all linux/initrd content from /boot/? Is that what is currently preventing it from booting?
[20:54] <wassup> Jordan_U: No. As I said - what is preventing it from booting is the fstab/crypttab issue.
[20:55] <wassup> All the packages and what not is fine.
[20:55] <grinchier> full disk encryption?
[20:55] <Jordan_U> wassup: I haven't seen that issue described yet. What happens when you try to boot? Can you pastebin your current /etc/fstab and /etc/crypttab?
[20:56] <wassup> grinchier: Yes, the default chosen when installing ubuntu.
[20:57] <grinchier> that is default?
[20:57] <wassup> grinchier: Whichever is the default, I guess this would be. LUKS + lvm.
[20:58] <grinchier> do you get any error messages?
[20:59] <wassup> Let me just do the paste.
[20:59] <grinchier> wassup: maybe this will help  http://askubuntu.com/questions/438746/luks-and-lvm-install-no-boot-gave-up-waiting-for-root-device
[20:59] <wassup> Of fstab/crypttab.
[20:59] <BigJ> I was having a problem with suspend not waking.  I had to downgrade to ubuntu 14.10 because I needed to install the graphics drivers through the intel graphics installer.  If I ugrade to 15.04 will it affect my graphics drivers?
[21:00] <sokoll> does anyone know why an ubuntu server hosted on AWS EC2 would seemingly have a hostname of a completely different server?
[21:00] <nicechap_> so I am having this isseu https://bugs.launchpad.net/terminator/+bug/1350334
[21:00] <BabySuperman> why would upstart start 2 processes instead of 1?
[21:01] <Jordan_U> BabySuperman: You're going to need to give a *lot* more detail than that for a meaningful answer.
[21:02] <BabySuperman> Jordan_U: sure, here's the upstart script: http://dpaste.com/1SWZ29Y
[21:02] <wassup> grinchier, Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11764461/
[21:03] <grinchier> wassup: did you see my link
[21:03] <wassup> grinchier: yes, looking at it atm, not really applicable so far
[21:03] <grinchier> sorry nothing I can help with
[21:03] <mistnim``> can you tell me if vim.basic installed by default in ubuntu?
[21:03] <wassup> grinchier: my initrd file is ok, having lvm, cryptsetup, dm-crypt.ko as well
[21:04] <Jordan_U> wassup: Great, but I am still waiting for a description of the problem. What happens when you try to boot?
[21:04] <grinchier> ^
[21:04] <wassup> Jordan_U: Atm no volumes found or something along those lines.
[21:04] <mcphail> mistnim``: vim.tiny is there by default, iirc
[21:05] <wassup> Cannot really restart now.
[21:05] <brainwash_> BabySuperman: maybe check /var/log/upstart/
[21:05] <BabySuperman> brainwash_: ty will do
[21:05] <wassup> Jordan_U: Can you paste these two lines from your crypttab & fstab if you have luks/lvm configuration yourself?
[21:05] <Jordan_U> wassup: Why not? How did you recreate your initramfs images?
[21:05] <Jordan_U> wassup: I don't currently have a LUKS/lvm system at hand.
[21:05] <wassup> Jordan_U: update-initramfs -u
[21:06] <Jordan_U> wassup: From within a chroot?
[21:06] <brainwash_> BabySuperman: also, how do you know that it's started twice?
[21:06] <wassup> Jordan_U: Yes.
[21:06] <BabySuperman> brainwash_: ps -ef | grep worker shows two processes... I think anyway?
[21:06] <sokoll> does anyone know why an ubuntu server hosted on AWS EC2 would seemingly have a hostname of a completely different server?
[21:07] <pbx> sokoll, sounds like an AWS support question
[21:07] <brainwash_> BabySuperman: does it happen when you stop and start the service manually?
[21:07] <BabySuperman> brainwash_: http://dpaste.com/0W03VH1
[21:07] <sokoll> pbx: not really, I'm asking about hostname's on ubuntu, they just happen to be hosted on AWS
[21:07] <BabySuperman> brainwash_: hrm let me try
[21:08] <sokoll> pbx: was just stating for context
[21:08] <BabySuperman> brainwash_: yeppers
[21:09] <grinchier> wassup: maybe   update-initramfs -u -k all    would make a diff?
[21:09] <ivan_on_trac> I removed the "tasksel remove ubuntu-desktop". I now have no access to GUI nor the "console".
[21:09] <Anthaas> "sudo mv folder ." is failing? inter-device move failed. Unable to move remote target. Is a directory.
[21:10] <wassup> grinchier: I only have one kernel.
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> ivan_on_trac  can ctrl-alt-F1
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> ivan_on_trac  can you ctrl-alt-F1
[21:11] <grinchier> wassup: do you have an exact error message?
[21:11] <Jordan_U> sokoll: Hostnames should generally be configured using "hostnamectl set-hostname foo", and they are usually configured at install time and never changed "automatically" in the default configuration. Which means that to know about why your hostname was set to what it was, you need to ask the person that installed this instance of Ubuntu, or who wrote the scripts that prepared its installation. That would be you, maybe one ...
[21:11] <Jordan_U> ... of your co-workers, or Amazon.
[21:11] <ivan_on_trac> MonkeyDust: I've tried. did not show anything.
[21:11] <brainwash_> BabySuperman: mmh, try to run "exec python /home/my_user/worker.py" in your script instead
[21:11] <wassup> grinchier: Not until I reboot, which is not possible atm.
[21:11] <grinchier> sorry
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> ivan_on_trac  what can you do, on that pc?
[21:12] <ivan_on_trac> I did: sudo apt-get install tasksel; sudo tasksel remove ubuntu-desktop - Then I restarted unintentionally.
[21:12] <brainwash_> BabySuperman: btw any helpful logs in /var/log/upstart/?
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> ivan_on_trac  do you have more than one pc in the same network? if so, try SSH
[21:12] <Jordan_U> Anthaas: Please pastebin the exact command you're running and its complete output.
[21:13] <BabySuperman> brainwash_: nah it all looked good in there, just normal output from my worker.. btw, thanks so much for giving me your time, really appreciate it.. pulling my hair out :)
[21:13] <ivan_on_trac> MonkeyDust: I can not. I have not "openssh-server" installed.
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> ivan_on_trac  if you can't do anything at all, reinstall seems the only option
[21:14] <BabySuperman> brainwash_: ahh maybe i am freaking out for no reason, manually running creates 2 workers it looks like... I am doing some python threading stuff (not very familiar with), that may make it look like 2 processes...?
[21:15] <brainwash_> BabySuperman: oh, that might explain it then :)
[21:15] <ivan_on_trac> MonkeyDust: I can get the live-cd. I can mount the filesystem.
[21:15] <Anthaas> "sudo mv /usr/local/gradle-2.5-rc-1/ ." is the command. mv: inter-device move failed '/usr/local/gradle-2.5-rc-1/' to './gradle-2.5-rc-1'; unable to remove target. Is a directory.
[21:15] <Anthaas> Dont really need to paste bin that? Its one line?
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> ivan_on_trac  is there some way you can backup?
[21:15] <Anthaas> Im assuming thats allowed in this channel
[21:16] <ivan_on_trac> It's an old ThinClient. I have installed 11.10 and then I upgrade to 12:04. Before long, I do not want to start all over again.
[21:16] <BabySuperman> brainwash_: ugh :( have to look elsewhere to debug then, at least that's not the problem though! ty
[21:17] <Jordan_U> Anthaas: Is there already a directory named ./gradle-2.5-rc-1 ?
[21:17] <brainwash_> BabySuperman: I suggest that you ask in #python, good luck :)
[21:17] <ivan_on_trac> MonkeyDust: It's an old ThinClient. I have installed 11.10 and then I upgrade to 12:04. Before long, I do not want to start all over again.
[21:18] <Anthaas> Odd.
[21:18] <Anthaas> It worked even though it said it didnt :S
[21:18] <kro2488> this is my first time using the hex chat thing instead of the other irc i connect too
[21:19] <kro2488> i like it
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> ivan_on_trac  what kind of solution are you looking for?
[21:19] <kro2488> I was just testing it out
[21:20] <ivan_on_trac> MonkeyDust: I want to access the console. This thinclient does not support PAE.
[21:20] <kro2488> i did wonder though i just have the ufw firewall just on default settings, so just for an average user like me thats safe right? cuz as I understand it incoming is denied, and only outgoing is allowed so traffic would only be going through things I initiate mainly right?
[21:20] <ivan_on_trac> MonkeyDust: I want to access the console, install openssh-server.
[21:20] <kro2488> sort of
[21:20] <sokoll> Jordan_U: I figured it out, it was somehow set as the mydestination option in /etc/postfix/main.cf
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> ivan_on_trac  i can only think of ssh to do that
[21:21] <sokoll> Jordan_U: which is bizarre because I built the server and didn't install postfix
[21:21] <kro2488> i used to have more complex rules but it became a pain to figure out what port each program used
[21:21] <sokoll> Jordan_U: the server hosts a JIRA instance, so I reckon it's something to do with that
[21:22] <kro2488> most of you just use the default settings as well for ufw i assume?
[21:22] <ivan_on_trac> MonkeyDust: A boot from the Live-CD. change any file to retrieve the console, etc.
[21:23] <victoria> hello everybody
[21:23] <victoria> I need some help please with the wlan, after upgrade doesnt work
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> ivan_on_trac  reboot in recovery mode and work from there -- during install, press esc to get the grub menu
[21:24] <kro2488> what do you mean exactly victoria?
[21:25] <kro2488> i wouldn't think it should do that
[21:25] <victoria> hum, well the wlan conection it doesnt exist
[21:25] <kro2488> hmm
[21:25] <victoria> maybe ifconfig -a
[21:26] <kro2488> i'm not a power user or anything so idk
[21:26] <victoria> i am also i dummy please
[21:27] <victoria> need some help, iḿ using now lan
[21:27] <kro2488> interestingly my granparents had a similar problem on their windows laptop but i couldn't figure it out, idk what they did, hit a switch somewhere or deleted some settings it was weird. but i have never had that happen in ubuntu
[21:27] <kro2488> yea just keep asking every few mins
[21:27] <kro2488> someone will help
[21:27] <victoria> okey, i have this problem twice
[21:27] <victoria> i think one time in the year
[21:29] <Jordan_U> Anthaas: The copy operation probably worked the first time, then the removal of the original directory failed. The second and subsequent times it was the copy that failed as the directory already existed.
[21:29] <Jordan_U> Anthaas: So if it's still in your scrollback on your terminal, you'll probably find a slightly different error message from the first time you ran the mv command.
[21:30] <kro2488> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide victoria try reading that maybe? until someone replies
[21:30] <victoria> please somebpdy give me commands to follow on the terminal ><
[21:31] <kro2488> or just keep google searching, usually this is faster than google but ask your question again
[21:31] <allizom> ivan_on_trac: try one of these two options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[21:31] <victoria> wlan is here but no wireless extensions :(
[21:32] <victoria> ive found, wlan and lo and eth0 ; please i need commands to follow
[21:32] <veer4> victoria: If you run lspci you should see hardware info, you can pastebin the whole lspci info in your posts
[21:33] <ivan_on_trac> allizom: It does not appear the grub menu. does not show the "Advanced" option.
[21:33] <victoria> veer4: its too much , to long
[21:34] <veer4> !pastebin | victoria
[21:34] <victoria> ahhhh yeeahh i remember :$
[21:34] <victoria> sorry
[21:34] <veer4> victoria: Copy and paste it and inclue the url in your posts.
[21:34] <victoria> okey :)
[21:35] <allizom> ivan_on_trac: look here http://www.chimerarevo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/ubuntu-11.04-nuovo-grub-2.png for a screenshot: select recovery mode
[21:36] <victoria> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11764590/
[21:37] <veer4> victoria: now run lspci and do the same, all of the text
[21:37] <ivan_on_trac> allizom: I do not have that option. I upgrade version 11.10 to 12:04. And removed "tasksel remove ubuntu-desktop".
[21:37] <acz32> is there a relatively lightweight image viewer that can rotate/crop/resize images?
[21:37] <victoria> okey :D
[21:37] <veer4> that is the important one at this point I believe victoria
[21:37] <Fuchs> acz32: feh can do some of that
[21:37] <allizom> ivan_on_trac: what do you see when you boot up your computer?
[21:37] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: What happens when you try to boot now?
[21:37] <acz32> Fuchs: i think feh is cli only. i need something user friendly for a friend
[21:38] <allizom> Jordan_U: :)
[21:38] <veer4> ivan_on_trac: You just want a recovery boot at grub, advanced yes, named recovery.
[21:38] <Fuchs> acz32: yes it is, okay, in this case probably something else. Hm. eog and the likes always come with dependencies ...
[21:38] <Fuchs> acz32: ristretto, maybe (GTK, usually with XFCE)
[21:39] <acz32> Fuchs: ok, i think they do use xfce so that might work
[21:39] <victoria> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11764609/
[21:39] <Fuchs> acz32: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications   has some more, qiv and the likes
[21:39] <acz32> Fuchs: thanks
[21:39] <designbybeck_> Not Cool Google...Not Cool!, Wonder if this is in the Software Center: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jun/23/google-eavesdropping-tool-installed-computers-without-permission
[21:40] <Fuchs> acz32: you're welcome
[21:40] <ivan_on_trac> it starts correctly, but without desktop. without icons. but does not show the desktop. and also does not show the "console"  Ctrl + alt + 1.
[21:40] <veer4> !broadcom | victoria this is the issue, "Broadcom Corporation BCM4312" others will be better help finishing if you have issues.
[21:40] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: You should also know that it's *very* unlikely that your CPU doesn't actually support PAE, there are many CPUs that incorrectly fail to advertise that they support PAE, when in reality they do.
[21:41] <allizom> designbybeck_: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=786909 is the Debian bug for it, it shows it's fixed in 43.0.2357.81-1
[21:41] <buharin> hello, I am using ubuntu 14.04
[21:41] <victoria> please use pastebin and give me the commands
[21:41] <buharin> and cann't install libdev-qt4
[21:41] <designbybeck_> OOHhhhh... good to know allizom  thanks
[21:42] <buharin> tried apt-get -f instal but wont help
[21:42] <k1l> buharin: put the output into a pastebin and link it here
[21:43] <veer4> victoria: THe wiki is pretty straight forward, people rarely cannot do it, I would look at it, and if you have an issue than people here will help. Be specific of steps you take is all.
[21:43] <buharin> http://pastebin.com/6b6DZZi5
[21:43] <k1l> buharin: are you sure about that package name?
[21:43] <k1l> !elementary | buharin
[21:43] <Styrbjorn> Hello !
[21:44] <victoria> ok i try
[21:44] <ivan_on_trac> It does not support "PAE". but only stopped working after I did it: sudo apt-get install tasksel; sudo tasksel remove ubuntu-desktop
[21:44] <allizom> ivan_on_trac: do you see a menu like that one in the screenshot I linked you to, in the booting phase?
[21:44] <buharin> k1l, they will not help me
[21:44] <Styrbjorn> Anyone here know have to solve the problem when "do-release-upgrade" or apt-get remove "landscape-common" just freezes ?
[21:44] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: What CPU are you using? How did you determine that it doesn't support PAE?
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> buharin  not our problem
[21:45] <k1l> buharin: we cant help you with elementary issues
[21:45] <Styrbjorn> it actually seems to happen on all my virtual machines and makes the upgrade to the latest ubuntu fail
[21:45] <Styrbjorn> the upgrade will however run just nice IF you remove the landscape-common package before starting the upgrade.. which i've accedently forgot when initating the upgrade on my KVM server. :(
[21:46] <Styrbjorn> Any suggestions ?
[21:47] <Styrbjorn> also tried "dpkg --purge landscape-common" that also freezeit.
[21:47] <Styrbjorn> my /var/dpkg.log just says "2015-06-23 23:43:00 status half-configured landscape-common:amd64 14.12-0ubuntu1"
[21:49] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: If your CPU was made after 1996, then it almost certainly supports PAE, despite what error messages you may have seen in the past or incorrect blog posts you may have read. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE shows how to install current versions of Ubuntu on machines with CPUs that don't advertise PAE support.
[21:53] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: As to your current problem, you should be able to chroot in and install any packages you want. Follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Update_Failure and run any other commands you want to after "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" within the chroot.
[21:53] <allizom> ivan_on_trac: It could also be Ctrl+Alt+F2 instead of F1 to get to a serial console
[21:54] <ivan_on_trac> allizom: screenshot https://picasaweb.google.com/107793123580423457686/23DeJunhoDe2015#6163692121526997090
[21:54] <ahtapot> hey is wubi.exe still present on current ubuntu versions
[21:54] <allizom> Jordan_U: I already told her this
[21:54] <allizom> there may be other solutions though
[21:55] <k1l> ahtapot: dont use wubi. make a real install into real partitions or run the live usb/dvd for testing.
[21:55] <allizom> ivan_on_trac: that link says image not found
[21:55] <ahtapot> k1l, why not
[21:56] <histo> ahtapot: wubi is no more
[21:56] <k1l> ahtapot: its very unstable and a desaster to support when its gone wrong.  and it got issues with recent windows versions.
[21:56] <histo> !wubi
[21:56] <veer4> Styrbjorn: Extra software IE 3rd party ppa's..etc can block a upgrade, you want to purge the stuff.
[21:57] <Jordan_U> !wubi | ahtapot
[21:57] <veer4> Styrbjorn: most things have dependencies that is the crux, out if the repo loads.
[21:57] <Styrbjorn> veer4: im well aware of that.. "landscape-common" is however not a third-party app
[21:58] <Styrbjorn> veer4: it's cannoical's cloud monitoring junk that nobody uses !
[21:58] <ahtapot> allright another quick question. openfoam is in official repos in ubuntu eh?
[21:58] <veer4> Styrbjorn: Sure, just seemed the info might be helpful, I'm not God speaking. ;)
[21:58] <MonkeyDust> !find openfoam
[21:58] <Styrbjorn> still breaks the upgrade process and that sucks big time
[21:58] <Styrbjorn> veer4: sorry im just a bit annoyed by this :)
[21:58] <veer4> np
[21:59] <ivan_on_trac> allizom: dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yhl2xnyqb95jskr/20150623_184510.jpg?dl=0
[21:59] <MonkeyDust> ahtapot  whatever openfoam is, it's in W: (whatever that is)
[21:59] <k1l> ahtapot: nope. will need the openfoam repos for that
[21:59] <Jordan_U> !info freefoam | ahtapot
[21:59] <Styrbjorn> This is actually what makes me want to go back to say. Gentoo... mhm
[22:01] <allizom> ivan_on_trac: that comes after the screen you should be seeing. Reboot and watch the early steps
[22:02] <Styrbjorn> ah nice, just got passed that damn package.. i cannot however remove it not even with purge :-) dead broken package :)
[22:02] <ivan_on_trac> allizom: It does not pass this stage.
[22:02] <Styrbjorn> ah well atleast ubuntu upgrade finished successfully now :)
[22:02] <allizom> ivan_on_trac: power cycle the computer
[22:02] <MonkeyDust> Styrbjorn  try     sudo aptitude purge ~c
[22:02] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: If you want to access the grub menu then you will need to hold shift during boot (starting from when the computer is first powered on, or before).
[22:04] <Styrbjorn> MonkeyDust: just tried to reconfigure the package. "The following partially installed packages will be configured:   landscape-common"
[22:04] <Styrbjorn> then freezes
[22:05] <veer4> Styrbjorn: I would run a sudo apt-get -f install if possible
[22:05] <ivan_on_trac> Jordan_U: I pressed the Shift key and the menu was displayed.
[22:05] <Guest84643> is it possible to remove compiled version of john the ripper?
[22:05] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: Great. Try selecting the option with "Recovery" in it from the grub menu.
[22:06] <Jordan_U> Guest84643: Yes. The README or INSTALL file that came with the source code should hopefully also explain how to remove it.
[22:06] <SchrodingersScat> Guest84643: if you installed via apt-get, should be apt-get remove john
[22:06] <Styrbjorn> veer4: already tried it.. same thing freezes at setting up....
[22:06] <Guest84643> compiled README tells nothing
[22:06] <kk_> 我去，第一玩irc
[22:06] <Styrbjorn> veer4: I guess you meant apt-get install -f ? :)
[22:07] <ws2k3> does ubuntu have rolling releashes?
[22:07] <yourname> just sudo purge all the files
[22:07] <veer4> Styrbjorn: nope
[22:07] <k1l> ws2k3: no
[22:07] <Jordan_U> !cn | kk_
[22:07] <ivan_on_trac> Jordan_U: Now displayed several of the grub menu options.
[22:07] <k1l> !releases | ws2k3
[22:08] <ws2k3> k1l but i can run do-release-upgrade i have used it many times to upgrade from ubuntu 10.10 to 12.04 or is this not recommanded?
[22:08] <victoria> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11764753/
[22:08] <victoria> need help please
[22:08] <k1l> ws2k3: yes, you can upgrade to the next release every time.
[22:08] <kk_> Oh! I know. Thanks
[22:08] <Guest84643> i compiled john the ripper README or INSTALL says nothing about removing
[22:09] <Jordan_U> Guest84643: What was the last command in the instructions for installing from source? Also note that this is why it's generally recommended that you only install packaged software.
[22:09] <k1l> ws2k3: but rolling release means it upgrades automatically. that is not the way with ubuntu.
[22:09] <ws2k3> k1l so what makes ubuntu Not rolling releashes if i can keep upgrading? or do i missunderstand the defenition of rolling releashes
[22:09] <Guest84643> make install
[22:09] <Guest84643> make clean SYSTEM
[22:09] <k1l> ws2k3: yes, you misunderstand rolling release.
[22:09] <ws2k3> k1l i see, and would it be an issue of yuou started with ubuntu 1.0 and did a do-releashe-upgrade every time until 14.04 ?
[22:09] <Jordan_U> Guest84643: Then try "make uninstall". Note that you will have to cd into the directory containing the source before you run "make uninstall".
[22:10] <Fuchs> ws2k3: ubuntu only brings in minor updates (usually: security updates / bug fixes), not feature releases. These are only done on a new distribution release (thus: every 6 months)
[22:10] <k1l> ws2k3: no, not an issue.
[22:10] <veer4> victoria: For the record the info and the wiki will be the fix most likely, you will be drug there again, you might include the info I gave you the broadcom hardware
[22:10] <Styrbjorn> There i've removed it by force manually without apt... probably not a clean way of doing it but now i can continue with business as usual :)
[22:10] <Styrbjorn> thanks
[22:10] <ws2k3> k1l okay thanks you
[22:10] <veer4> Styrbjorn: been there
[22:11] <Guest84643> make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'. Stop.
[22:11] <Styrbjorn> veer4: yep me too but usually with third-party apps.. especially backports
[22:11] <Styrbjorn> veer4: it's really annoying that cannocial bundles pre-installed broken packages.
[22:12] <Styrbjorn> or well broken package when doing do-release-upgrade.. works when doing normal apt-get upgrades and such.
[22:12] <veer4> sounds like externalized blame
[22:12] <Jordan_U> Guest84643: Please pastebin the complete README.
[22:12] <Styrbjorn> also it seems only to occur when upgrading to the latest ubuntu version
[22:12] <marlon99rocks> hi
[22:12] <Styrbjorn> from 14.04 to 14.10 the problem does not occus.. only from 14.10 to 15.04
[22:13] <Johnny_Linux> 1504 is a whole different monster
[22:16] <Guest84643> heres paste bin of README http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=dAzira8U
[22:17] <Guest84643> ooops notthe README
[22:18] <edisto> if I have a laptop with 2.5 g/ram, and 1.67mhz x2 amd processor should I install xubuntu or would it be ok to run ubuntu gnome?
[22:19] <Johnny_Linux> xubuntu imho
[22:20] <Johnny_Linux> eeepc ??
[22:20] <edisto> didnt understand that last part but ya its a pc lol
[22:20] <Johnny_Linux> ok
[22:21] <Guest84643> here is whole john ripper README http://pastebin.com/feHdRKNK
[22:22] <edisto> thanks Johnny
[22:22] <Johnny_Linux> np
[22:22] <Johnny_Linux> have fun
[22:23] <edisto> ya im going to a convention and my toshiba desktop laptop won't charge my battery so I can't boot it
[22:23] <edisto> i'll never buy another toshiba again =\
[22:23] <Johnny_Linux> xubuntu will do you well on that
[22:23] <k1l> Guest84643: apt-get purge john ?
[22:23] <edisto> yar i figured when I saw the 1.5 gig ram requirement for ubuntu gnome lol
[22:24] <Johnny_Linux> its light, has many features and runs good on those machunes
[22:24] <allizom> Guest84643: can you paste INSTALL too?
[22:24] <Guest84643> i aslo install john via software centre just want to remove compiled version
[22:24] <Guest84643> john ripper INSTALL http://pastebin.com/Uqpx45C3
[22:24] <mistnim``> /quit(bye all)
[22:24] <mistnim``> mmh
[22:25] <Guest84643> i have read it all nothing about de-compiling
[22:25] <Guest84643> uninstalling
[22:25] <ivan_on_trac> Jordan_U: Solved! I installed "tasksel install server" and removed the ligthdm and then changed the grub.
[22:28] <allizom> Guest84643: just delete the files in ../run
[22:29] <Guest84643> whats does deleting the files in ../run do?
[22:30] <allizom> it will delete the john executables you compiled
[22:33] <biolk19827> running ubuntu studio and now i can't login, not even with the shell.... all that happens when i try to login is a black flash then i see the login screen again....
[22:33] <biolk19827> anyone ever see this happen?
[22:34] <regedit> Alt+F1 / Alt+F7 ?
[22:34] <Bashing-om> biolk19827: Proprietary graphics driver installed ? Broke in a update process ?
[22:34] <k1l> biolk19827: boot recovery and see if the disk is full
[22:34] <biolk19827>  no proprietary graphics driver, might be an update that messed it up
[22:35] <Guest84643> if i unintall john from the commandline what files do i have to remove to get rid of the compiled version of john the ripper, only installed it to test my passsword strength. wish i new it was in the respositories
[22:35] <biolk19827> k1l, disk is not filled can i repair ubuntu via a usb drive with ubuntu studio on it?
[22:36] <k1l> biolk19827: depends on what the reason is. does the guest account work?
[22:36] <k1l> biolk19827: what did you do before that happend
[22:37] <allizom> Guest84643: what do you mean with uninstall from the command line? apt-get remove john? that will uninstall the version from the repos, but it's not what you do want
[22:39] <JohnDoe1972> guys ive a usb that ive used to install ubunto. i then reinstalled xp on another partition and the mbr was re written so now grub 2 dosent appear at boot ! so the solution is to run boot repair which i downloaded and put on the usb before running ubuntu live ! but when i get into ubuntu i cant access the usb. cdrom appears empty. can anyone help me ?
[22:40] <Guest84643> allizom i want to get rid of compiled too which files should i delete to rid me of it all
[22:40] <biolk19827> k1l, yes guest account works
[22:40] <biolk19827> k1l, i have no idea....
[22:41] <k1l> biolk19827: so that sounds like you messed with something of your user config.
[22:41] <Jordan_U> JohnDoe1972: Follow this guide to re-install grub's boot sector: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[22:41] <veer4> JohnDoe1972: You can download the bootrepair iso and load it to the usb and boot it, or load the app from the live than use.
[22:41] <k1l> biolk19827: boot into recovery and see what is owned by the user or root in the /home/-username-/ folder with "ls -al"
[22:41] <allizom> Guest84643: I've told you, delete the folder ../run
[22:41] <veer4> +1 on any chrrot
[22:42] <veer4> chroot*
[22:42] <Guest84643> ok thanks allizom
[22:42] <veer4> JohnDoe1972: That chroot link is the easiest probably
[22:43] <JohnDoe1972> i have the boot repair on the usb but i cant see the usb , i think, because im using the same usb too boot from ! is that an issue or?
[22:43] <Guest84643> allizom but surely all the other stuff will still remain?
[22:43] <ale_> ?
[22:44] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: if you are booted from that usb, its not seen as usb but as "system" partition.
[22:44] <veer4> JohnDoe1972: Not knowing exactly what you did I'm not sure.
[22:44] <k1l> !bootrepair | JohnDoe1972
[22:44] <allizom> Guest84643: what other stuff? the source package and the files it uncompressed to? remove them as well
[22:45] <JohnDoe1972> system partition like a hd ?
[22:45] <Jordan_U> k1l: '/' in the LiveCD environment won't correspond in any way to the contents of the fat32 partition on the USB drive though, which is what JohnDoe1972 is trying to access.
[22:45] <veer4> JohnDoe1972: always incldue a context
[22:45] <veer4> include*
[22:46] <Guest84643> ah so it compiled it in one folder so it has not installed anything with in my root file system?
[22:46] <Jordan_U> k1l: I expect that the contents they are looking for is in /cdrom/, but JohnDoe1972 says that it's not and didn't provide the output of "mount" when I asked them to earlier.
[22:47] <JohnDoe1972> Jordan_U, i dont know how to access mount
[22:47] <k1l> Jordan_U: what i understand is that he expects the usb to be mounted as an usb on a regular install. that is not going to happen. the partition is treated like a partition, not as a external drive
[22:47] <JohnDoe1972> where is mount ?
[22:47] <wassup> re
[22:48] <allizom> Guest84643: that's what it says on the box. unless you gave it root privileges it hasn't put things in /
[22:48] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: open a terminal, type "mount", copy teyt to a pastebin, show the pastbin url here
[22:48] <k1l> *text
[22:48] <netvergent> my 12.05 downloads are failing to boot from a burned image onto the cdkey
[22:48] <JohnDoe1972> cant . the laptop in question has no internet connection
[22:48] <histo> JohnDoe1972: where did you download boot repair to?
[22:48] <JohnDoe1972> how do i open a terminal ?
[22:48] <ivan_on_trac> I do not support PAE ?! This is an AMD Geode processor. https://www.dropbox.com/s/pb7bddru3q5ivi6/PAE_20150623_194418.jpg?dl=0
[22:49] <hackal> Hello, I have intalled ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop. Now I need to change from ubuntu to windows. I am thinking of two ways. Setup dual-boot while keeping the current ubuntu or create an image of ubuntu, install windows and then use virtual machine with image. What would you recommend. What is easier?
[22:49] <netvergent> so formating the thumb drive to 32fat is correct?
[22:49] <JohnDoe1972> histo i downloaded it to my win 7 desktop, extracted it and copyed it to usb
[22:49] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: so work along that howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[22:49] <allizom> Guest84643: it can put files only where your user has write access to
[22:49] <Guest84643> thanks allizom!!
[22:49] <aeon-ltd> hackal: long-run the vm is easier to manage
[22:49] <histo> JohnDoe1972: On the same usb that the ubuntu installation is on?
[22:49] <JohnDoe1972> yes
[22:49] <aeon-ltd> hackal: at the cost of performance of course
[22:50] <histo> JohnDoe1972: how did you put ubuntu on the usb?
[22:50] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: and lets drop all that "where is bootrepair" since it seems its not going to be understood.
[22:50] <JohnDoe1972> same way
[22:50] <histo> Guest84643: how'd your password test go?
[22:50] <netvergent> Histo, having the same issue, no os found when booting from the usb. I have booted other linux versions on the usb just fine not this one.
[22:50] <Guest84643> just ran rkhunter and have loads of warnings!! i didn't compile it with sudo!! allizom know anything about rkhunter warnings?
[22:50] <JohnDoe1972> k1l your attitude is annoying. dont ever tell me how to behave
[22:51] <netvergent> I remember 1972 :)
[22:51] <histo> netvergent: how did you put the software on the usb drive?
[22:51] <Guest84643> took too long with repos install so uninstalling now
[22:51] <aeon-ltd> JohnDoe1972: USB stick = |the 'what you're booted into' space| |other stuff on the usb| they are separate see?
[22:51] <netvergent> no, burning it to the drive
[22:51] <netvergent> isotousb is the burn client
[22:51] <hackal> aeon-ltd: ok, thanks I will go with the VM.
[22:52] <k1l> JohnDoe1972: several people tried to help you but you seem  not to be able to follow easiest requests. so i linked you a working solution to your actual grub issue. dont blame me
[22:52] <histo> netvergent: not familiar with it.  perhaps try the instructions for ubottu
[22:52] <histo> !usb | netvergent
[22:53] <allizom> Guest84643: is there a specific reason you ask me personally? Anyway, why don't you install from the repos? If I understand correctly you have already done that
[22:53] <histo> Guest84643: also what password are you trying to test with john?
[22:54] <wassup> Jordan_U: Just to let you know for the future - crypttab should contain a line saying something like sdb5_crypt UUID=xx-yy-zz bla, bla. However, when update-initramfs of any kind is executed from chroot, it will complain about 'sdb5_crypt' not being a correct line (the error is not exactly specified, but this is the exact bit that it complains about). In such a scenario, the command will not include cryptsetup binaries in the initrd image, thus rendering it
[22:54] <wassup> Sorry, I do not remember the nickname of the other guy that tried to help.
[22:55] <Guest84643> uninstalled all now anyway!! was trying to test passwd file
[22:56] <histo> Guest84643: well your password is in the shadow file not the passwd file and it's a salted hash so good luck cracking it.
[22:56] <wassup> Jordan_U: And, regarding the above, the file I was mentioning that needs to be edited inside initrd is conf/conf.d/cryptroot.
[22:56] <Jordan_U> wassup: Your message was cut off at " thus rendering it".
[22:56] <wassup> Jordan_U: Let me paste it somewhere.
[22:56] <Guest84643> ah it was the shadow file i choose now i remember i made a copy of it and tried to crack it
[22:57] <wassup> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11764981/
[22:57] <allizom> Guest84643: I recommend you that if you need rkhunter you run "apt-get install rkhunter" and wait for as long as it takes
[22:58] <Guest84643> i did install that way
[22:58] <Guest84643> got  loads of warnings but no rootkits warnings
[22:59] <allizom> Guest84643: I guess that's good for you.
[23:00] <Guest84643>  Suspect files: 71
[23:00] <Guest84643> perhaps an fresh install is needed or a google of the amount of warnings
[23:01] <allizom> histo: You can use it to find weak, very weak passwords set by other users
[23:01] <netvergent> anyone here use isotousb for buning ubunto to thumb drive?
[23:03] <Jordan_U> netvergent: Use the tools recommended in the official documentation.
[23:03] <netvergent> yes, that is what i will be doing
[23:03] <stacks88> i see through apt-cache search virtualbox that ubuntu 14.04 lets me potentially install virtualbox, but without actually installing it , how can i find out the version number that im seeing here virtualbox - x86 virtualisation solution - base binaries
[23:03] <Jordan_U> netvergent: So you won't be using isotousb?
[23:04] <stacks88> oh n/m apt-cache policy virtualbox , not sure why i forgot that
[23:06] <histo> Guest84643: it depends on the warnings. Most of them are harmless. If you pastebin the output perhaps someone can take a look at what you are seeing
[23:06] <Guest84643> ah sorted rkhunter coming back clear now
[23:06] <rjwdon> Hi all, anyone know of a channel for support with ExQuilla thunderbird extension?
[23:08] <netvergent> mmm lili usb said unbunto not on compatability list but burning it anyway
[23:08] <allizom> rjwdon: maybe #addons on irc.mozilla.org?
[23:09] <Guest84643> how do you type to one user? as in get it high lighted in red for them?
[23:09] <histo> Guest84643: you mention their nick. you can tab complete nicks in here as well
[23:10] <histo> !who | Guest84643
[23:10] <squinty> rjwdon, irc.mozilla.org  #thunderbird   (xchat or other irc client logon)   might want to ask there if no suggestions forthcoming from this channel
[23:10] <Guest84643> histo, ah thanks histo
[23:10] <Guest84643> did that work??
[23:10] <ivan_on_trac> This kernel requires features not present on the CPU. " Lubuntu 14.04 forcepae -- forcepae". I think my processor does not support "PAE". How can I be sure?
[23:11] <Guest84643> Guest84643, cheers
[23:11] <aeon-ltd> ivan_on_trac: cat /proc/cpu_info iirc has stuff about this
[23:12] <Guest84643> right i'm out of here thanks histo and thanks allizom
[23:14] <noc> , I am having a bit of of trouble. I am running Ubuntu 14.04, my gfx card is a R9 290x and I am trying to install fglrx-14.301.1001 (drivers by amd/ati). They install fine, I then issue this command amdconfig --adapter=all --initial -f
[23:14] <noc> Reboot and bam, I am stuck on the loading screen with the 4 little dots...
[23:14] <MonkeyDust> noc  ctrl-alt F1, see where it's stuck
[23:14] <noc> I had to go into TTY1 and remove the bloody thing twice now and I can't get it to work
[23:15] <YamakasY> noc noc
[23:15] <noc> Yeah I have done that, I think its must be something with the x org config i tried looking at it but i don't understand it to much
[23:15] <noc> yes
[23:15] <YamakasY> anybody there ?
[23:15] <noc> Yup
[23:15] <aeon-ltd> YamakasY: nope we all ghosts here
[23:16] <YamakasY> aeon-ltd: oh no, I'm a buster, so beware guys!
[23:16]  * YamakasY is getting himself through the night during upgrades
[23:16] <noc> Anyone got any ideas?
[23:16] <YamakasY> noc: yes, let's play outside, I wanna play a game
[23:17] <Guest84643> last time i compile from source, will use repos from now on
[23:17] <noc> No been outside enough today
[23:17] <wowa_s> what i  m doing here :D
[23:17] <MonkeyDust> wowa_s  this is the ubuntu support channel
[23:17] <noc> On top of that i can use no machine to connect in
[23:17] <ivan_on_trac> All versions >=12 Ubuntu and derivatives. It is required to support "PAE". What then do with old computers and unsupported?
[23:17] <noc> but then it says that no session is active
[23:18] <Bashing-om> noc: See : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2244700 ; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2278589 (solution) (QIII) .
[23:18] <noc> looking thanks!
[23:21] <Bashing-om> ivan_on_trac: A quick way to look : ' grep -w pae /proc/cpuinfo ' .
[23:21] <allizom> ivan_on_trac: I would go for Debian i386 (it actually requires more than 386, but a kernel without PAE is available)
[23:21] <noc> so
[23:22] <noc> If i understood correclty I can # sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core # sudo apt-get install libcheese* and then install fglrx-14.301.1001 ?
[23:22] <Jordan_U> Bashing-om: ivan_on_trac: That is *not* a reliable way to determine if a CPU supports PAE. Many CPUs don't report PAE support, even when it is actually available.
[23:22] <ivan_on_trac> Bashing-om: I checked.You do not have the flag "PAE"
[23:23] <allizom> ivan_on_trac: CPU model?
[23:24] <ivan_on_trac> The ubuntu sometimes it's boring. Even the old Slackware 14 I install smoothly.
[23:24] <ivan_on_trac> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pb7bddru3q5ivi6/PAE_20150623_194418.jpg?dl=0
[23:24] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: Have you tried booting from an Lubuntu 14.04 iso following the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE ?
[23:25] <ivan_on_trac> CPU model: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1a9063ecb2f9e61c0ae3
[23:25] <Bashing-om> ivan_on_trac: As Jordan_U Advises " Just for stating the obvious, the PAE flag is not output from the processor itself, it comes from a software modification of the output. " .
[23:26] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: Was the screenshot you just showed from an Lubuntu 14.04 or newer LiveCD/USB?
[23:26] <ivan_on_trac> Jordan_U: I tried.It did not work.
[23:27] <netvergent> I wonder if this version of ubunto is to new. it is 12.05 and installing it on a optiplex gx2180 cannot detect the nic card
[23:27] <ivan_on_trac> Jordan_U: Lubuntu 14:04:02. USB stick "Unetbootin".
[23:28] <Delizin> Howdy all. I am trying to add a "7 Days to Die" server to my current linode webserver using Ubuntu 14.04. I followed the instructions here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=360404397&insideModal=1 and the server seems to be setup and running properly, however I can't connect to it. I added an entry in iptables for the port, 26900, and if I type netstat -ntlp | grep LISTEN I can see that the server is listening o
[23:28] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: Then it appears that you really do have a CPU without PAE support.
[23:28] <noc> anyone?
[23:28] <Delizin> Any ideas how I can check to make sure I have properly opened the port?
[23:29] <Tex_Nick> netvergent: ummm relatively speaking, ubuntu 12.05 is not new ;-)
[23:29] <netvergent> I know
[23:29] <netvergent> but the nic card and the hardware is older
[23:29] <noc> Ok I am gonna try it
[23:29] <noc> lets do this
[23:30] <ivan_on_trac> Jordan_U: I sure have! I just talked to the manufacturer. He said that I do not support "PAE".
[23:30] <histo> netvergent: do you have reason to believe a newer version will have a regression and not support your nic?
[23:30] <netvergent> so, if the nic card driver is not in the list just install the rest of the os? I could and locate it and put it on the thumb drive
[23:30] <netvergent> histo what would you do?
[23:30] <allizom> ivan_on_trac: that only says the CPU family, I believe there are CPU there that both support and not support PAE. We'll have to be more specific. please see your computer labels, specs, or just open its case and write down the model
[23:30] <allizom> oh
[23:30] <histo> netvergent: What are you trying to accomplish?
[23:31] <ivan_on_trac> options "forcepae -- forcepae" in Lubuntu. It was supposed to work. strange.
[23:31] <veer4> ivan_on_trac: The mini appears to have a no pae kernel.
[23:31] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: That only works for CPUs which support PAE but don't advertise ti.
[23:32] <netvergent> histo, put ubunto on a dell optiplex gx280
[23:32] <veer4> the Lubuntu mini*
[23:32] <netvergent> then install zoneminder and freepbx on it
[23:32] <netvergent> which I have extensive install experiance of freepbx
[23:32] <noc> ugh
[23:33] <noc> i tri to issue sudo ap-get install server-xorg-core and I get a bunch of errors
[23:33] <histo> netvergent: what operating system are you creating the usb from?
[23:33] <netvergent> windows xp
[23:33] <noc> something about the packages having the following unmet depenciees
[23:35] <histo> netvergent: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download   downlaod that and use it to write the iso to a thumb drive that you don't need the data on.
[23:35] <Jordan_U> netvergent: First, there has never been a "12.05" version of Ubuntu, only "12.04" and "12.10". But you should really be installing Ubuntu 14.04 or 15.04.
[23:35] <ivan_on_trac> veer4: I think very complex installation of "mini". The "mini" requires internet connection.
[23:36] <noc> http://i.imgur.com/tOgLfpY.jpg
[23:36] <netvergent> well, this install is a bomb. the ubunto install menu refuses to see its own image and install the rest of the software
[23:36] <noc> Here is a screenshot
[23:36] <noc> sorry about the average quality
[23:36] <netvergent> anytime I pick a option from this list it says it is missing or cannot do it.
[23:36] <Jordan_U> netvergent: Try Ubuntu 14.04.
[23:37] <Bashing-om> noc: I look at your dpendency iissu, Here is QIII's bug report : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2244700 .
[23:37] <allizom> ivan_on_trac: then change distribution. I recommend Debian as an alternative
[23:37] <netvergent> I know what part of the problm is
[23:37] <noc> yeah i looked at at bashing-om
[23:38] <ivan_on_trac> allizom: I also recommend Debian Alternate. But my company does not want to keep 02 different Linux distributions.
[23:38] <veer4> allizom: this is ubuntu support, we do not just keep pushing other OS's here
[23:38] <MooMilk> I require assistance
[23:39] <MooMilk> Kubuntu keeps freezing up on me
[23:39] <allizom> veer4: got it, it's just that she can't run ubuntu on that computer
[23:40] <veer4> allizom: You have no legit reason to be doing that.
[23:40] <ivan_on_trac> The "nOS" Linux is based on Ubuntu. It is safe and unstable? http://www.nos.net.nz/
[23:40] <darthanubis> MooMilk, run memtest
[23:40] <netvergent> well, the installer main menu is trying to read the installer files off the cdrom yet, all the files are on the thumb drive? Whats with that?
[23:40] <ai6pg> Any way to get rid of the ask plugin or whatever in Ubuntu Chrome?
[23:40] <MooMilk> How, when it's frozen?
[23:40] <darthanubis> ivan_on_trac, it's not ubuntu though
[23:40] <MooMilk> Well, I can move the cursor, that's it
[23:40] <allizom> veer4: I said I got it. It just seemed ok given the circumstances
[23:41] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: Try ##linux for discussion of what distribution might be best for your non-pae machine.
[23:41] <ivan_on_trac> Sorry
[23:42] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: Ubuntu 12.04 will continue to be supported through 2017 as well.
[23:43] <histo> MooMilk: what video card are you running?
[23:43] <netvergent> is there a iso download with checksum? mine may be corrupted
[23:43] <Jordan_U> !md5sums | netvergent
[23:43] <Bashing-om> noc: Hummm: is "cheese" installed on your system ? 'dpkg -l cheese ' .
[23:43] <MooMilk> My problem is, first the task bar and desktop will freeze. I'll be able to alt-tab between open programs, but I can't access anything. Then everything will freeze 5 mins later
[23:44] <noc> its says to install cheese after
[23:44] <noc> i check tho hold up
[23:44] <MooMilk> Intel graphics.
[23:44] <MooMilk> It's just a laptop
[23:44] <ivan_on_trac> The Ubuntu 12.04 can not install directly. The only way out is to install 11.10 and then upgrade to 12.04. It takes as hell "upgrade".
[23:44] <Bashing-om> noc: " apt-cache show cheese" do you really want to install it ?
[23:44] <noc> yes its there
[23:44] <noc> 3.0.2
[23:45] <Bashing-om> noc: OK, then we do the depebdency reolution thing. try and make the package manager happy . Lemme look again .
[23:46] <noc> Ok thank you so much! Il be waiting, I am gonna look around
[23:46] <ivan_on_trac> Jordan_U: So it is still the best choice for my scenario. To reduce my work I will try to clone the "ISO" with clonezilla.
[23:46] <MooMilk> Running memtest now. I tried boot disk repair, and that didn't do anything.
[23:47] <noc> All i need is really to be able to install fglrx-14.301.1001
[23:48] <veer4> MooMilk: You save the bootinfo summary from the repair being run?
[23:48] <MooMilk> Yeah
[23:48] <veer4> MooMilk: Just curious have not looked at what's up fully.
[23:48] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html
[23:49] <MooMilk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11764335/
[23:50] <MooMilk> Or is that it?
[23:50] <veer4> MooMilk: That's it, how is it related to freezing?
[23:50] <MooMilk> I don't know.
[23:51] <MooMilk> Thought I'd run it because it fixed issues before
[23:51] <Bashing-om> noc: As I recall, in order to install the FGLRX driver we got to get cheese in a hppay state ? What release are you on ( I compare yours to my 14.04 install ) .
[23:51] <veer4> MooMilk: Gotta be careful just guessing, you could of screwed up thta nice gpt boot.
[23:52] <MooMilk> Like when I reformatted my Linux partition and couldn't boot windows because grub was gone
[23:52] <noc> i am on 14.04 Bashing-Om
[23:52] <noc> i am on 14.04 Bashing-om
[23:53] <ivan_on_trac> Jordan_U: Requires an internet connection. I will measure the time to install through the "mini.iso" if it is faster than through upgrade 11to12.
[23:53] <MooMilk> What if I just reinstalled kubuntu over kubuntu? Would that wipe the programs that I have installed?
[23:53] <veer4> MooMilk: In that scenario that tool is helpful.
[23:53] <Bashing-om> noc: Let's see if we can make the package manager happy . What results ' sudo apt-get install libclutter-gst-2.0-0 ' ?
[23:54] <veer4> MooMilk: the scenario being "Like when I reformatted my Linux partition and couldn't boot windows because grub was gone"
[23:54] <noc> let me check
[23:55] <Jordan_U> ivan_on_trac: It will almost certainly take less time and bandwidth to install via the minimal iso than to install then upgrade. All packages get upgraded, so upgrading actually requires downloading exactly the same files as installing from the minimal iso, except that upgrading also requires downloading of packages that were installed by default in 11.10, but weren't installed by default in 12.04.
[23:55] <MooMilk> Well, it'll be about 20 more minutes for memtest to finish
[23:55] <MooMilk> The only thing I installed yesterday was TeamSpeak3
[23:56] <noc> 0 upgrade or remove
[23:56] <noc> all the same! it was already there!
[23:56] <noc> @Bashing-om its already installed
[23:57] <mandy_> whats
[23:59] <MooMilk> veer4, what else can I do. First task bar and desktop freezes. When I get to that point, I can ctrl-alt-del to the shutdown menu, but it won't shut down, and freezes completely. If I keep using the computer after the desktop is frozen, then everything will freeze 5 minutes after. The cursor will work, and the screen will still turn off when I close it. The only way to shut down is power button.