[12:00] <WeirdAl> Ah! Even better...
[12:00] <t3rror> yes...
[12:00] <WeirdAl> http://ubuntuguide.org/index.html#upgradewartytohoary
[12:01] <WeirdAl> Most of the time, just sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace warty with hoary.
[12:01] <WeirdAl> But in some cases, the URL is slightly different, so check that link.
[12:01] <QMario> How do I restart SWAT?
[12:01] <L3th3M> anto, on synaptic > repository list > change all "warty" for "hoary"
[12:01] <L3th3M> anto, thats all
[12:01] <L3th3M> ante, on synaptic > repository list > change all "warty" for "hoary"
[12:02] <t3rror> thanks wierdal
[12:02] <WeirdAl> np
[12:02] <blue-freak> hi @ all
[12:02] <QMario> How do I restart SWAT?
[12:04] <ante> L3th3M: thx, i already edited sources.list
[12:04] <QMario> How do I restart SWAT?
[12:04] <blue-freak> sry no idea
[12:04] <i3dmaster> QMario: restart xinetd or inetd should work
[12:04] <roo_> QMario, once is enough.
[12:04] <blue-freak> can anyone help me with ubuntu and prism54 ?
[12:05] <QMario> What commands do I use?
[12:05] <L3th3M> ante, ok
[12:05] <airmikey> ok anyone get gdesklets loaded
[12:05] <i3dmaster> L3th3M: /etc/init.d/inetd(xinetd) restart
[12:05] <L3th3M> Who use mono?
[12:05] <QMario> Never mind!
[12:06] <pdoms> What's the mount option so every mofo on my system can r/w on the disk?
[12:06] <Arnia> L3th3M: I use mono... why?
[12:06] <L3th3M> i3dmaster, ah?
[12:06] <roo_> L3th3M, i do.
[12:06] <blue-freak> rw ?
[12:06] <i3dmaster> thoreauputic: thanks man! It is much better!
[12:06] <thoreauputic> i3dmaster: heh - you're welcome
[12:06] <blue-freak> anyone ? prism54 ?
[12:06] <L3th3M> I am newbie on develop, and I want to try with mono
[12:07] <L3th3M> I do not know where to start
[12:08] <thoreauputic> L3th3M: why not start on something like Python first?
[12:08] <L3th3M> just I know that I can combine glade with gtk#
[12:08] <L3th3M> python?
[12:08] <L3th3M> good idea, but I dont know python
[12:09] <Arnia> Python is an easier language to learn than C#
[12:09] <Joost> if you install files with apt-get, where do they get installed?
[12:09] <thoreauputic> L3th3M: http://python.org/
[12:09] <Joost> newbie here, sorry ;)
[12:09] <jefis> how to check file system?
[12:09] <L3th3M> thanx
[12:09] <jefis> it in a minute ago hanged :(
[12:09] <thoreauputic> Joost: the binaries mostly in /usr/bin
[12:10] <mcphail> Joost: all over the place
[12:10] <jefis> How to check file system, fix errors
[12:10] <jefis> :)
[12:10] <thoreauputic> jefis: man fsck
[12:10] <jefis> thanx
[12:10] <pdoms> can anyone give me the right fstab options for to mount a disk so every user can do everything please?
[12:10] <noble> hello guys
[12:10] <thoreauputic> pdoms: this is a Very BAd Idea (tm)
[12:11] <pdoms> thoreauputic, what's tm?
[12:11] <pdoms> to me?
[12:11] <WeirdAl> trade mark _
[12:11] <thoreauputic> pdoms: a joke on trademarks
[12:11] <pdoms> hihi =)
[12:11] <mcphail> Joost: from synaptic, right click on a package -> properties -> installed files
[12:11] <thoreauputic> pdoms: but it is a bad idea :)
[12:11] <WeirdAl> Very Bad Idea (tm) is what you say when it's really not a good idea at all :-)
[12:11] <WeirdAl> believe it or not
[12:12] <Joost> thanks, i'll try that mcphail
[12:12] <pdoms> It's in the options right, where the permissions come from for users?
[12:12] <thoreauputic> pdoms: don't do it
[12:12] <jefis> thoreauputic: there is one more untility, but i don't remmeber, do you?
[12:12] <stefansava> hi!.......................can anyone help me install TOTEM-XINE on Warty 4.01 from SOURCE code tar.bz2 ?????????????????????????????????????????   plsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[12:12] <pdoms> thoreauputic, it's my box, and other people need rw 2 =)
[12:13] <thoreauputic> pdoms: *shrug*
[12:13] <noble3> sorry i got kicked
[12:13] <noble3> one question - when will hoary stable be available
[12:13] <pdoms> thoreauputic,  really wasup? :)
[12:13] <thoreauputic> stefansava: after that performance, i doubt it :)
[12:13] <stefansava> what do U mean?
[12:13] <Arnia> pdoms: They won't need read-write across everything though. Doing this will make your box incredibly vunerable
[12:14] <libben> isnt marillat a warty resp? is it ok do have it in also?
[12:14] <airmikey> No package 'gconf-2.0' found
[12:14] <airmikey> its loaded
[12:14] <thoreauputic> stefansava: you don't need to compile it - it's in the repositories
[12:14] <jefis> How to check file system for errors after hard reboot?
[12:14] <pdoms> Arnia, it's for one specifiq Harddisk, one from windows ;)
[12:14] <WeirdAl> Can anyone tell me what's happened to my gproftpd user list?
[12:14] <pdoms> not the disk where ubuntu is installed on
[12:14] <noble3> does someone know whenn hoary stable torrent is available?
[12:15] <WeirdAl> I kicked myself from the server so I could restart the transfer, I can't get back in, and there are no users on the list.
[12:15] <jefis> How to check file system for errors after hard reboot? :)
[12:15] <pdoms> the data on that disk needs to be accessed and modified from windows & linux, so i say r/w for every1 on that disk?
[12:15] <stefansava> I dont know "repositories"
[12:15] <WeirdAl> And I can't find the user type config files to see if I'm banned.
[12:16] <njan> pdoms, umask=0 in the fstab options
[12:16] <pdoms> repositories are dope
[12:16] <pdoms> thank you njan
[12:16] <thoreauputic> stefansava: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[12:16] <thoreauputic> stefansava: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[12:16] <burgermann> nity nity everone
[12:16] <jefis> How to check file system for errors after hard reboot? :)
[12:16] <libben> thoreauputic, isnt marillat a warty thing only or is it ok to use with horay?
[12:17] <noble3> does someone know whenn hoary stable torrent is available? :-D
[12:17] <thoreauputic> stefansava: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:17] <pdoms> cheers guys
[12:17] <osity> is it hard to setup mirroring on a ubuntu server?
[12:17] <osity> or is it a stadard setup?
[12:17] <thoreauputic> libben: read the restricted formats page i posted for stefansava
[12:17] <stefansava> tnx
[12:17] <osity> standard
[12:18] <noble3> it looks like nobody can give me facts
[12:18] <noble3> i wish a good nicht form austria
[12:18] <thoreauputic> noble3: about Friday
[12:18] <osity> try #facts
[12:18] <stefansava> but I tried to install it with synaptic pack  man......and I cant find it
[12:18] <thoreauputic> noble3: the channel is kind of busy right now
[12:18] <osity> roo: you here?
[12:18] <noble3> thoreauputic: i thougt the release will be available since 6th april
[12:18] <noble3> thoreauputic: i see
[12:19] <thoreauputic> noble3: *sigh* I just gave you the latest news, OK?
[12:19] <noble3> thoreauputic: okok, i know it and say thank you
[12:19] <thoreauputic> noble3: you're welcome
[12:19] <netbix> hello
[12:19] <noble3> good night guys till next time
[12:20] <netbix> i have a question ?
[12:20] <netbix> because reportbug does not work well
[12:20] <stefansava> thoreauputic:    but I tried to install it with synaptic pack  man......and I cant find it
[12:20] <netbix> in my system crashed when formatting email for send mail
[12:21] <thoreauputic> stefansava: read *all* the pages I posted for you and do what they say
[12:21] <thoreauputic> stefansava: especially the restricted formats one
[12:22] <thoreauputic> stefansava: and be sure to reload synaptic
[12:23] <mackid> hey all.. i see when i do an apt-get dist-upgrade that gcc-4.0 is available.. i said No to install everything though.  Are there any problems with doing a dist-upgrade at this point?  I'm running hoary-preview
[12:24] <dazed|> thoreauputic, hey i know i have to turn off all other repos but do i have to change the cd repo to install hoary on warty when doing from cd?
[12:25] <marska> Has anyone here gotten MLDONKEY to work?
[12:25] <thoreauputic> dazed|: I don't follow you: just change warty to hoary, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:26] <dazed|> change warty to hoary in the sources and thats it?
[12:26] <luxi> Is today stil the big day ?
[12:26] <thoreauputic> dazed|: that's it
[12:26] <dazed|> thoreauputic, i am on 56k connection so i downloaded the install cd of hoary and now i want to upgrade via cd not repos\
[12:26] <thoreauputic> dazed|: ah I see
[12:27] <thoreauputic> dazed|: you can only get stuff from "main" that way
[12:27] <dazed|> thoreauputic: oh so id still have to upgrade a lot once installed hoary?
[12:28] <thoreauputic> dazed|: in other words, anything you installed on warty wouldn't get updated
[12:28] <dazed|> damn....
[12:28] <thoreauputic> if it was from net repos
[12:28] <marska> So what p2p apps do you guys use?
[12:28] <dazed|> stupid dorm...only dorm on campus with out accesss to campus internet
[12:28] <thoreauputic> dazed|: on dial-up, you are looking at a long wait
[12:29] <dazed|> yeah
[12:29] <dazed|> like years
[12:29] <dazed|> lol
[12:29] <thoreauputic> dazed|: I feel your pain - I'm on dialup too :)
[12:30] <Bazzi> dorm without campus internet - lol
[12:30] <Bazzi> I wouldnt live there
[12:30] <marska> College without internet...
[12:30] <libben> the AddingRepositoriesHowto is not really complete written... still gets confused when it dont match the things he claims.
[12:30] <marska> Well.. At least there is no chance of being caught downloading illegal stuff.
[12:30] <thoreauputic> Bazzi: be thankful you aren't in the third world then
[12:30] <marska> In the long run, your being saved time and money.
[12:30] <Bazzi> thoreauputic I am.
[12:30] <dazed|> thoreauputic, lol welll how bout this could i upgrade to hoary via cd and then net repo my other stuff or will it upgrade hoary from net repos automatically?
[12:31] <marska> Bazzi: Arizona is not the third world.
[12:31] <Bazzi> is it not?
[12:31] <John--> it could be
[12:31] <John--> I'm sure some parts are pretty third world
[12:31] <thoreauputic> Bazzi: only culturally ;)
[12:31] <marska> Thor: By those standards, so is California and most of the US.
[12:31] <thoreauputic> Bazzi: it could be worse - you could be in Arkansas ;)
[12:31] <Bazzi> marska yep =)
[12:32] <John--> I live way too close to Arkansas
[12:32] <John--> :(
[12:32] <marska> I'm still trying to petition to bomb California, Texas, Arizona, Montana, and all the southern US.
[12:32] <marska> Its not like we need it or anything.
[12:32] <John--> :(
[12:32] <John--> let me leave the state first
[12:33] <marska> John: What would be the point then ;)
[12:33] <Bazzi> the whole US should be bombed.
[12:33] <thoreauputic> well, I'm losing it here...time to sleep - bye everyone !
[12:33] <Bazzi> it's not that we need it or anything
[12:33] <kerskine> ??!!
[12:33] <John--> I'm not one of the ignorant sheep
[12:33] <John--> give me a chance ;)
[12:34] <marska> John: I am firm believer in Eugenics. Mainly that means everyon ELSE should die horribly.
[12:34] <libben> man... no wonder i couldent find gtypist from debian =) they packed it to junior-typing with both tuxtype o gtype =) hmm...
[12:34] <John--> yeah, I used to be like that. Until I realized I need others to feel pain, so I can feel pleasure
[12:34] <John--> not as a sadist
[12:34] <marska> Ah.. Live around losers and be their King?
[12:34] <John--> but because it's funny
[12:34] <John--> yes
[12:35] <John--> infact I'd say most of the people I am around would suffer without me
[12:35] <John--> not because I'm someone great, it's just they're rather... unintelligent
[12:35] <BeatrixKiddo> Hi
[12:35] <John--> 'lo
[12:36] <BeatrixKiddo> :)
[12:36] <libben> how do i unmark all deps that was getting on when i clicked aplied... and then i hitted cancel cause i dont wanna install the thing... do i need to manualy look at all deps and search them up and unmark them?
[12:36] <BeatrixKiddo> somebody tell me why I should use Ubuntu.
[12:37] <John--> it's better than windows me?
[12:37] <kent> libben, perhaps restart the application? Then they will go away..
[12:37] <Fackamato> hahaha
[12:37] <BeatrixKiddo> I am using XP
[12:37] <John--> oh
[12:37] <John--> either way
[12:37] <John--> I don't know, what made you look into ubuntu?
[12:37] <John--> even look into linux
[12:38] <libben> kent, lol =) yeah... forgot that solution... DUH =)
[12:38] <BeatrixKiddo> my friend told me he uses it
[12:38] <John--> dependability is probably the biggest reason I decided on ubuntu
[12:38] <John--> consistent updates
[12:38] <John--> I liked that
[12:39] <John--> none of that "security hole found, *2 weeks later* 'yeah we're working on a patch'"
[12:39] <SirFunk> hmm... is there no mono for hoary64?
[12:40] <libben> FFS... now im pissed =)
[12:40] <John--> pissed as in angry, or pissed as in drunk?
[12:41] <apokryphos> SirFunk: I don't think there is, no.
[12:41] <libben> ive installed flashplayer-mozilla and flashplugin-nonfree and I still get that i dont have flash installed and i click on install plugin button that pops up... and it still tells me there is no flashplugin avaible
[12:41] <_phoenix3051_> do the "normal" firefox extensions work with the hoary64 version of firefox?
[12:41] <SirFunk> apokryphos: any idea why?
[12:41] <Arthur> can someone help me install .deb packages
[12:42] <tarasbulba> dpkg -i packagename.deb
[12:42] <apokryphos> SirFunk: none I'm afraid; drop a suggestion on the mailing list or on the Ubuntu-MOTU page
[12:42] <Arthur> I have several *.deb packages, and I'm not sure how to install them.  New Linux user, just to let you all know.
[12:42] <SirFunk> ubuntu-motu?
[12:43] <tarasbulba> hello,anyone succeeded to compling and booting with a new kernel in 5.04?
[12:44] <apokryphos> Pyre: tell SirFunk ubumotu
[12:44] <Pyre> SirFunk: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTU
[12:44] <tarasbulba> i have a terrible kernel panic :(
[12:44] <apokryphos> SirFunk: "Masters of the Universe" -- mono is in Universe, so best to contact them. Drop a line in suggested packages
[12:45] <SirFunk> ahh
[12:46] <jason__> anyone know where ubuntu puts non-free packages?
[12:46] <zxv_> is there a web interface where i can search through the ubuntu package repositories?
[12:46] <Huafa>  Anyone can tell me what is the diff in debian and ubuntu?
[12:46] <tarasbulba> i have a "Kernel panic: UFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)"
[12:47] <tarasbulba> it will be nice to hear what is .diff
[12:47] <libben> sorry all... flash seemed to work =) it was java that fucked it all up =)
[12:47] <libben> dident occur to me to try more then my favorite flash site =)
[12:48] <whiskers> man that was a real job....i finally got gimpshop compiled for win98 and it looks just as nice there as on ubuntu
[12:49] <whiskers> this is terrific....lots of competition
[12:50] <libben> i like photoshop =) just because i master it fully =) but that would make it even easier to understand gimp... havent launched gimp yet =) but i intend to when im about to mod a wallpaper
[12:50] <whiskers> libben, well gimpshop is no photoshop...by any stretch of the imagination....it is just a scanner and printing tool for cameras and stuff
[12:51] <libben> ooh =) ment gimp =)
[12:51] <whiskers> i have never seen photoshop but for $700 i expect it is very high quality
[12:51] <libben> very compact and full with features =)
[12:51] <libben> gimp looks the same...
[12:51] <John--> I love photoshop
[12:51] <libben> me2
[12:51] <housetier> I have seen photoshop and I wouldnt pay that much money
[12:51] <libben> me either =)
[12:52] <libben> but i love it =)
[12:52] <whiskers> anyway....for me i settle for the free stuff like gimpshop for windows, and clamav for windows 98
[12:52] <John--> I wouldn't pay that much for a dog
[12:52] <whiskers> i don't understand the stuff anyway
[12:52] <John--> or even a kid
[12:52] <housetier> I like adobe's menu shuffler; they apply it whenever they release a new version
[12:55] <flipy> hi!
[12:55] <_phoenix3051_> using gnome and hoary64 is there an application that will show/mount partions on my disk like kde on knoppix? or do I just mount them manually?
[12:55] <kingsley> Which backup utility, if any, can maintain rolling incremental backups, like rdiff-backup, but of a Microsoft file system?
[12:55] <flipy> i'm using an asus laptot which has a "fn" key to enable more funcionality, is there any way to configure them?
[12:56] <libben> !teve tv4
[12:58] <libben> I wonder if they will ship some more icons with ubunt updating =)
[12:59] <Yomic> Gah! Something is wrong with my keyboard when I type. Sometimes when I am typing, words wiiiiiilllllll cooomme ouoouuuttt lliiikkkee thiiiisss.
[12:59] <John--> ...
[12:59] <John--> new keyboard perhaps
[12:59] <roo_> ^ agreed
[12:59] <roo_> :p
[12:59] <Yomic> ..
[12:59] <John--> that or try to cut down on masturbating and ejaculating on the keyboard
[12:59] <John--> give it a nice clean too
[01:00] <Yomic> Haha.
[01:00] <John--> 17:59 < Yomic> Gah! Something is wrong with my keyboard when I type.
[01:00] <John-->                Sometimes when I am typing, words wiiiiiilllllll cooomme
[01:00] <Yomic> Okay :P (To the cleaning part.)
[01:00] <flipy> how can i log as root?
[01:00] <flipy> in hoary?
[01:00] <Yomic> flipy: There is no root.
[01:00] <roo_> flipy, "sudo" followed by your user password grants you root priveledges.
[01:00] <flipy> well... moving from gentoo to have a linux distro working on my laptop...
[01:00] <EvilIdler> Root took the wrong pill.
[01:01] <Yomic> use 'sudo' before your commands to use 'root' commands
[01:01] <i3dmaster> Yomic: well there is a root, you just are not setup to logon as root bedefault I think
[01:01] <flipy> uhm... i see
[01:02] <flipy> just last thing, why it isn't installed gcc? i mean... i really need to compile some stuff... since i'm new to this distro, doing a gcc --version doesn't show anything...
[01:02] <ekwinix> how do i use apt-get to install a .deb package that's in my home directory ?
[01:02] <Nekohayo> say, is it really normal that the debian marillat repository always annoys me with the GPG errors? aren't debian repositories GPGed?
[01:02] <Nekohayo> ekwinix, use the dpkg -i command
[01:02] <Burgundavia> they
[01:02] <Burgundavia> they are
[01:02] <ekwinix> cheers
[01:03] <zshzn> how would I get mp3s to work for me?
[01:03] <EvilIdler> Nekohayo: Happens to me all the time. The AMD64 repository is broken, too
[01:03] <Yomic> Also, when my keyboard 'lags' my menus can only be opened by holding down the button.
[01:03] <Mr-Petah> hi all
[01:03] <Nekohayo> EvilIdler, thanks. Besides, is there a way to tell synaptic to NOT popup that annoying error everytime?
[01:03] <Yomic> When it is usually open with a simple click.
[01:03] <roo_> flipy, gcc isnt installed because most users dont compile software. you can install it easily though by installing the "build-essential" package
[01:03] <EvilIdler> Nekohayo: The error is from apt, so I would check the apt-get manpage
[01:04] <flipy> roo_, oh i see, thanks!
[01:04] <apokryphos> ekwinix: well, why would you want to? Why not use dpkg?
[01:04] <Mr-Petah> i can,t find glib 1.2.10, where get it?
[01:05] <Mr-Petah> (sry 4 my english)
[01:05] <ekwinix> apokryphos, it's not that. its just that i'm new to this and wasnt sure what to use. i didnt even know of dpkg :)
[01:05] <kkathman> greetings all :)
[01:05] <EvilIdler> ekwinix: dpkg is the core of the package system, and apt is just a shell around it to sort dependencies and downloading from repositories.
[01:05] <apokryphos> ekwinix: ok, no worries. :) dpkg -i <packagename>
[01:06] <EvilIdler> ekwinix: aptituade and Synaptic are common shells around that again :)
[01:06] <kkathman> those of you that are on the hoary release, other than commenting out those two lines in the sources.list, do I need to really make any other changes to that file?
[01:08] <zshzn> I'm having trouble getting mp3s to play
[01:08] <crimsun> kkathman: you shouldn't have to comment out any lines.
[01:08] <apokryphos> zshzn: what's the problem?
[01:08] <Yomic> What the... Firefox MISSED a POP-UP *_*
[01:08] <loaofwar3> hi i just successfully installed the fglrx driver for radeon but now i have trouble configuring the screen resolution
[01:08] <crimsun> zshzn: with what program?
[01:08] <kerskine> zshzn:  did you download the mp3 plugin?
[01:08] <zshzn> xmms
[01:09] <zshzn> haven't downloaded the mp3 plugin, from where would I get it?
[01:09] <crimsun> zshzn: make sure the output is set to the esound plugin if you're in gnome
[01:09] <apokryphos> Pyre: tell zshzn uburestricted
[01:09] <Pyre> zshzn: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:09] <kerskine> zshzn: looking
[01:09] <kkathman> crimsun ok...there were a couple at the top that said to uncomment them when hoary went "stable"
[01:09] <apokryphos> zshzn: essentially, you only need the gstreamer0.8-mad package
[01:09] <kerskine> zshzn: yeah - that
[01:09] <loaofwar3> it gives this error message everytime i try to click the screen resolution option: The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available.
[01:09] <loaofwar3> anyone know how to fix this?
[01:10] <zshzn> how would I get gstreamer0.8-mad? I am new to the package system
[01:10] <Burgundavia> loaofwar3: if you are using ATI prop drivers, then you can't
[01:10] <flipy> is there any way to compile the kernel without going to the console?
[01:10] <apokryphos> zshzn: Check out that link above, it walks you through it. Anymore trouble, just ask
[01:10] <loaofwar3> how can i configure the screen resolution then?
[01:10] <zshzn> I've looked at the link
[01:10] <loaofwar3> watdo u mean ati prop driver?
[01:11] <GhostFreeman> Anyone else having Firefox crash on them when they start it up
[01:11] <SirFunk> hmm... no java plugin for hoary?
[01:11] <kkathman> GhostFreeman, I didnt what are you experiencing?  Any errors?
[01:11] <apokryphos> zshzn: and?
[01:11] <GhostFreeman> Every time I start up Firefox, it just sits there and I haveta force quit it
[01:12] <Burgundavia> loaofwar3: unforunately, you have to edit /etc/xorg.conf
[01:12] <GhostFreeman> It's been acting up as of late
[01:12] <Burgundavia> loaofwar3: the ATI driver that the company puts out for 3D
[01:12] <kkathman> GhostFreeman, what version of Ubuntu and what version of Firefox?
[01:12] <GhostFreeman> Wart
[01:12] <GhostFreeman> Warty*
[01:12] <zshzn> apokryphos, it says install gstreamer, I'm not sure how to do that with the package system.
[01:12] <apokryphos> GhostFreeman: that's likely the problem ;-). Get thou Hoary.
[01:13] <kkathman> GhostFreeman, exactly .. what apok said
[01:13] <GhostFreeman> FF 1.0.2
[01:13] <apokryphos> zshzn: Ok. Ubuntu uses the Debian package management system -- apt. To install things, you can either use apt (command line) or a graphical front-end (synaptic). I recommend you use synaptic to do so.
[01:13] <GhostFreeman> I'll use Mozilla for now, until Hoary goes final
[01:13] <kkathman> GhostFreeman, yes I think there are issues with 1.0.2 and Warty...I had a difficult time withit myself
[01:13] <loaofwar3> ok i see
[01:13] <zshzn> apokryphos, would it be something like 'apt-get install gstreamer' ?
[01:13] <apokryphos> zshzn: Go into Synaptic, from the menu go to Repositories, check that "Universe" is enabled, then "Reload", then Find that package, and install away.
[01:13] <loaofwar3> how would i change my refresh rate then?
[01:14] <GhostFreeman> I see
[01:14] <apokryphos> zshzn: you could use that too, if you want... sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:14] <loaofwar3> Burgundavia: how could i change my refresh rate?
[01:15] <loaofwar3> anyone know how i could change my refresh rate on my monitor?
[01:15] <apokryphos> loaofwar3: you have to do it from your xorg.conf file, but can't say I know exactly where to get it. Generally, you should get the option for it when doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:15] <loaofwar3> ok thanks
[01:15] <juser> loaofwar3, change the monitor, or change the system to work with your monitor?
[01:15] <loaofwar3> change the refresh rate of the monitor
[01:16] <zshzn> apokryphos, okay, that seems to install it, but then when I try xmms it freezes
[01:16] <GhostFreeman> ATI needs to get better programmers
[01:16] <apokryphos> zshzn: I don't use xmms, but hmm.. did you try restarting before using it?
[01:16] <zshzn> no
[01:16] <EvilIdler> loaofwar3: You'll need the monitor manual. Change the refresh rates in the Monitor section to the right ones.
[01:17] <apokryphos> zshzn: you should :)
[01:17] <CarlJ> loaofwar3, most monitors don't have that option, (not sure any do) other than they will adapt to what the card is sending, but only up to a limit.
[01:17] <zshzn> alright, I'll go do that
[01:17] <libben> its about 66 updates from this morning and counting =)
[01:18] <CarlJ> so FireFox just preseneted me with "A scritp on this page is causing Firefox to run slowly.  bla bla bla... Do you want to abort the script? Cancel, OK."  which will abort, which will let it run?
[01:18] <roo_> CarlJ, OK
[01:19] <CarlJ> wacky
[01:20] <CarlJ> if anyone wants to know, you can run on 64meg.. you just get stupid warings now and then
[01:20] <CarlJ> i think OK canceled
[01:20] <GhostFreeman> can Ubuntu run out of memory to work in?
[01:21] <zshzn> apokryphos, restart didn't help
[01:21] <CarlJ> GhostFreeman, yes, but first it will start using swap, and then it will stop caching, then it will start killing processes that it thinks can be sacrified
[01:21] <apokryphos> zshzn: it crashes again?
[01:22] <zshzn> yes
[01:22] <zshzn> it just freezes up and wont respond
[01:22] <apokryphos> zshzn: hmm. Are you running hoary? And, are you sure the files you're trying to play have valid paths?
[01:22] <GhostFreeman> that's cool
[01:22] <flipy> how can i tell ubuntu to not use some packages? (for example CUPS - and all stuff related)
[01:22] <apokryphos> Though, ideally, it still shouldn't freeze up
[01:22] <CarlJ> GhostFreeman, but things will get really slow
[01:23] <GhostFreeman> I don't think I need to worry, I have about a gig of memory
[01:23] <zshzn> apokryphos, yes using hoary, and I'd assume its a valid path
[01:23] <gustavor> just upgraded to hoary, but I don't get the splash screen... how do I enable it?
[01:23] <CarlJ> flipy, when you do the install, do "server" and then just install what you do want
[01:23] <apokryphos> gustavor: you would have to install it.
[01:23] <apokryphos> Pyre: tell gustavor usplash
[01:23] <Pyre> gustavor: http://wiki.nanofreesoft.org/index.php/UsplashHowDoesItWork
[01:24] <apokryphos> zshzn: After it's stopped responding, did you kill it?
[01:24] <flipy> CarlJ, do server? i don't get it.. the fact is that i've already installed that so i just want to disable some packages, that means to reinstall ubuntu from scratch?
[01:24] <zshzn> apokryphos, yes
[01:24] <CarlJ> neat - can anyone use that box?
[01:24] <gustavor> ok.. I thougth it was default on Hoary.. thanks
[01:24] <CarlJ> flipy, - then apt-get remove
[01:24] <apokryphos> zshzn: sorry, but not quite sure then. Don't use it myself so hard to articulate problems here
[01:25] <flipy> CarlJ, isn't the synaptics a better way to do it?
[01:25] <flipy> CarlJ, because it controls dependencies...
[01:25] <yogui> are all ubuntu package works on debian ?
[01:25] <apokryphos> flipy: they both do. Synaptic is only a GUI front-end for apt.
[01:25] <CarlJ> flipy, pretty sure synaptics is just a GUI to control apt
[01:25] <flipy> well, i understand that
[01:25] <CarlJ> even more sure now ;)
[01:26] <flipy> what i dont understand is why if i try to unistall cups it wants to unistall a lot of packages too...
[01:26] <apokryphos> flipy: I recommend trying out beep-media-player; I've heard quite a few praises about it in the channel. It's basically a fork of xmms, with gtk.
[01:26] <CarlJ> flipy, unless you have spent time configuring things, I would just reinstall - it is so easy
[01:26] <apokryphos> flipy: because it likely depends on many others.
[01:26] <GhostFreeman> how about a freeform skin audip player
[01:26] <GhostFreeman> i'm sick and tired of xmms
[01:27] <CarlJ> or the other way around - other things depend on cps, so no cups and they go too
[01:27] <EvilIdler> Doesn't XMMS already use Gtk?
[01:27] <apokryphos> GhostFreeman: go for amaroK :P
[01:27] <apokryphos> EvilIdler: yeah, it does. Darn; forgot the difference with bmp
[01:27] <GhostFreeman> oh and beep-media-player no longer shows the playlist
[01:27] <GhostFreeman> just a 1px bar
[01:27] <yogui> are all ubuntu package works on debian ?
[01:27] <flipy> CarlJ, that seems useless... so if someday i want to unistall something it will try to unistall all it's dependencies?
[01:27] <Bicchi> There is a calendar that shows the official release date of Ubuntu 5.04. Does anyone knows the date or the calendar url?
[01:28] <zerokarmaleft> april 8th
[01:28] <Bicchi> thanks
[01:28] <apokryphos> Bicchi: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryReleaseSchedule
[01:28] <snybole> Could someone tell me if it's possible to get the same watch working in ubunt as this one: http://www.gentoo.org/images/shots/olson.png , a name perhaps so I know where to download f.ex.
[01:28] <xuzo> GhostFreeman: try eina http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=609
[01:28] <marska> Hello.. I've tried numerous p2p apps but I have not been able to get even one to work. I was wondering if someone would be so kind as to assist me in this?
[01:29] <EvilIdler> flipy: CUPs is the core printing system. Programs that rely on print would require it.
[01:29] <pussfeller> mldonkey
[01:29] <CarlJ> flipy,  - I think so.  otherwise you are left with things that don't work
[01:29] <yogui> are all ubuntu package works on debian ?
[01:29] <GhostFreeman> k
[01:29] <pussfeller> marska, or bittorent
[01:29] <pussfeller> cant screw up bittorent
[01:29] <flipy> uhm since i'm comming from gentoo I guess I'm a bit used to it
[01:29] <Agoln> Hey everyone... first time ubuntu user and well, some-what new to linux here... I was wondering if there was an easy way to get the kernel sources w/o much hassle... such as by apt-get or synaptic
[01:29] <marska> pussfeller: MLDONKEY doesn't work for me. Bittorent isn't preferred.
[01:29] <CarlJ> hmm... server isntall, apt-get install xchat; doesn't look like it wants to install xorg - how does that work?
[01:30] <apokryphos> EvilIdler: I think the difference is it was compiled against GTK+2
[01:30] <Bicchi> Sorry for asking this question here, but if i am going to be using kde instead of gnome should i download kubuntu instead of ubuntu. or it just doesn't matter the order?
[01:30] <flipy> well thank you guys
[01:30] <flipy> nighty nigh :D
[01:30] <GhostFreeman> is xorg automatically installed with Hoary
[01:30] <EvilIdler> apokryphos: Not a major difference, then
[01:30] <apokryphos> Bicchi: order doesn't matter, if you intend on having both.
[01:30] <apokryphos> EvilIdler: nope.
[01:30] <marska> I have had no luck with MLDONKEY
[01:30] <marska> Or any of the other apps
[01:30] <marska> Even Bittorrent has been sketchy.
[01:31] <apokryphos> marska: for bittorrent? Azureus is the best out there...
[01:31] <corvix> someone around foir drunken smalltalk ... #ubuntu-de
[01:31] <Yomic> Haha; my dad thinks he can reformat this computer. (He is a windows luser.)
[01:31] <ions|2> jabber.org down for any of you guys?
[01:31] <Wyzard> New Ubuntu user, coming from Debian sid...  I'm installing Ubuntu, and I'm surprised that it doesn't detect my 3c556B Ethernet card, but does detect a 3c575...  strange because both are supported by the same kernel module, 3c59x.ko
[01:31] <marska> apok: I would like some help to get MLDONKEY working..
[01:32] <EvilIdler> ions|2: Jabber's been up and down for some very much lately
[01:32] <ions|2> EvilIdler: yeah it's always crapping out but do you know what it's status now?
[01:32] <ubuntu> hi
[01:32] <Pointwood> EvilIdler: use another server ;)
[01:32] <EvilIdler> ions|2: It's wotking for me
[01:32] <apokryphos> marska: I installed it quite some time ago, so I wouldn't recall the procedure. Others on here might know; if you have no luck, I recommend trying in #mldonkey
[01:32] <Azathoth> just trying out new hoary RC live CD on an iBook, works like a charm :)
[01:33] <ions|2> k thanks - trying to set up a new user and it's not liking it
[01:33] <apokryphos> Azathoth: cool :)
[01:33] <marska> Apok: Did you have MLDONKEY working?
[01:33] <CarlJ> Azathoth, do Applications, system, Ubuntu device Database
[01:34] <Azathoth> i already have ;)
[01:34] <Azathoth> first thing i did after booting
[01:34] <Azathoth> still, the fan doesn't stop spinning
[01:34] <Azathoth> so it's extremely loud compared to the complete silence when running OSX
[01:34] <kkathman> apokryphos, question:  Does hoary automatically install any playback engines for Multimedia? Im just now getting around to getting the sound setup and I've tried both Kaffiene and AmarOK and both dont play back anything
[01:34] <pussfeller> i think theres a wine port for emule
[01:34] <pussfeller> or somesuch
[01:34] <yogui> are all ubuntu package works on debian ?
[01:35] <pussfeller> amule is not so great
[01:35] <apokryphos> kkathman: it should, yes; perhaps not for MP3s. What's going wrong? Does it suggest that they're playing...
[01:35] <EvilIdler> yogui: It's best not to mix them
[01:35] <Wyzard> yogui: Some might -- probably even most, but that's a guess -- but not all
[01:35] <marska> So no one else has expierence with MLDONKEY? Help would be greatley appreciated.
[01:35] <pussfeller> soulseek-nicotine works pretty much out of the box
[01:35] <libben> Hmm... i just added marillat to the sources and gpg it and all that.. now it update notifier says i have 3 new updates to download... but it contains woody in its name.... should i remove the marillat source? i only want ubuntu things... not things that is added from debian
[01:35] <pussfeller> whats the specific problem with mldonkey
[01:36] <yogui> Thanxx
[01:36] <kkathman> apokryphos, well, Kaffeine seems to indicate it cant find the AudioCD, Amarok can read the contents of the CD (audio cd) but theres no playback
[01:36] <EvilIdler> libben: Use Marillat as a deb-src instead, and build the packages
[01:36] <CarlJ> (how do you make the bot.. Pyre? tell someone about Restrictedformats?
[01:36] <kkathman> apokryphos, I do have sound, because I get those little bell sounds when I open dialogs, etc
[01:36] <apokryphos> kkathman: this is not the live CD, right? Can you check whether you have the amaroK engines, and then use, say -- xine engine, and see if you can play an mp3
[01:37] <apokryphos> kkathman: right. So it seems to be an audioCD playing issue
[01:37] <snybole> could anyone help me? Need to know the name of http://www.gentoo.org/images/shots/olson.png .. The clock in the left upper corner
[01:37] <kkathman> apokryphos, I have no engines for amarok, it doesnt list any
[01:37] <libben> EvilIdler, im not quite sure i understand what u mean... cause ive added the deb lines in sources for marillat
[01:37] <roo_> snybole, thats the E clock module
[01:37] <apokryphos> kkathman: alright, then install amarok-engines package
[01:37] <marska> pussfeller: Nicotine didn't for me
[01:37] <kkathman> ahh ok...just a regular apt-get?
[01:37] <snybole> roo_: downloadable for ubuntu?
[01:37] <pussfeller> you sure its not routing troubles
[01:37] <EvilIdler> libben: It takes a little learning..are you prepared to increase your headmeat? ;)
[01:38] <marska> Pussfeller: Yes. Program didn't even load.
[01:38] <pussfeller> cuase nicotine iw prety straight forward
[01:38] <obe1> anyone use ivtv drivers for hauppauge tv cards with ubuntu here?
[01:38] <kkathman> apokryphos, thats just a regular apt-get then?
[01:38] <EvilIdler> libben: In the sources.list, make it deb-src instead of deb
[01:38] <roo_> snybole, err, i think u need to be using Enlightenment as your desktop (as opposed to Gnome, or KDE or whatever)
[01:38] <marska> I'd like MLDONKEY anyway.. Well.. Is there anyone who wouldn't mind helping?
[01:38] <apokryphos> kkathman: that's right
[01:38] <pussfeller> theres #mldonkey
[01:38] <snybole> alrigt, thanks anyway roo_  :)
[01:38] <marska> Mldonkey is not really too helpful.
[01:38] <roo_> snybole, np :)
[01:39] <libben> EvilIdler, done... and now what? do the gpg thing again?
[01:39] <kkathman> apokryphos, should I install that amarok-xzine too? or does that come with the engines?
[01:39] <EvilIdler> libben: You build with apt-get -b source nameofpackage; not sure about the flags to automatically install them also
[01:39] <EvilIdler> libben: apt-get update first, though
[01:39] <apokryphos> kkathman: the amarok-engines metapackage pulls that in
[01:39] <LinuxJones> Lots of files updated today
[01:39] <apokryphos> LinuxJones: getting close ;-)
[01:40] <EvilIdler> libben: I bet you'll get lots of errors on first attempt; it'll list the packages you need to get (build)
[01:40] <kkathman> apokryphos, okie dokie
[01:40] <EvilIdler> libben: Packages listed as "whatever | somethingelse" means the first one is preferred, but the other one can be used instead
[01:41] <LinuxJones> apokryphos, tomorrow .....muahhh
[01:41] <apokryphos> LinuxJones: no, Friday :P
[01:41] <LinuxJones> apokryphos, eh ? I thought it wa the 6th :(
[01:41] <LinuxJones> was*
[01:41] <libben> i failed to fetch two from sources.list
[01:41] <libben> hmm
[01:41] <EvilIdler> LinuxJones: It was, but I guess they're a tad overworked
[01:42] <apokryphos> LinuxJones: nope, it was changed to the 8th to give more time for Gnome packaging
[01:42] <LinuxJones> EvilIdler, I forgive them ;D
[01:42] <apokryphos> Pyre: tell LinuxJones ubuschedule
[01:42] <Pyre> LinuxJones: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryReleaseSchedule
[01:42] <EvilIdler> Whee. DVDs play without me having to do the crazy libdvdcss dance.
[01:42] <LinuxJones> apokryphos, the bot :)
[01:42] <apokryphos> dun dun
[01:42] <starhawk> I am new to ubunta and tring to install the harray but the cd rom says cdrom failure am what am I doing wrong help(ashamed)
[01:42] <LinuxJones> apokryphos, awesome
[01:42] <loaofwar3> hi i have a weird problem. i have an epson stylus 600 printer and everytime i try to print it prints out gibberish
[01:43] <loaofwar3> even the test page is gibberish
[01:43] <loaofwar3> it prints characters like $%GWSG@%
[01:43] <EvilIdler> Ack. Xine gets a SIGSEGV on going fullscreen :/
[01:43] <libben> what was the gpg i typed ? encrypted key to get authed ?
[01:44] <LinuxJones> apokryphos, is there anything on the wiki about Pyer ??
[01:44] <loaofwar3> anyone know anything ?
[01:44] <loaofwar3> i have an epson stylus 600 printer and everytime i try to print it prints out gibberish
[01:45] <starhawk> are you sure you picked the right driver
[01:45] <LinuxJones> loaofwar3, do you have the correct driver/model selected ?
[01:45] <apokryphos> LinuxJones: Nah, he's not really that popular, and kinda basic ;-) -- only around 13 lil' functions.
[01:45] <fabien> hi guys
[01:45] <apokryphos> hi :)
[01:45] <LinuxJones> apokryphos, would be nice to hook into the wiki page, hint hint
[01:46] <fabien> say anybody know about d-link airplus support?
[01:46] <kbrooks> Pyre,
[01:46] <kbrooks> Pyre, help
[01:46] <starhawk> I am new to ubunta and tring to install the harray but the cd rom says cdrom failure am what am I doing wrong help(ashamed)
[01:46] <apokryphos> kbrooks: if you open up a query and type "help" he'll display possible commands
[01:46] <LinuxJones> starhawk, what kind of cdrom drive do you have usb ?
[01:47] <apokryphos> LinuxJones: if he's used I might do, but I don't mind it now so much. He can do my dirty work =)
[01:47] <starhawk> no jusat a rewriter
[01:47] <bourrin> bonjour!
[01:47] <starhawk> I know it works
[01:48] <LinuxJones> apokryphos, :)
[01:48] <kkathman> apokryphos, ok I did the install, on the engines, but the only one that shows up in amarok is the Arts engines...odd
[01:48] <fabien> let me re-phrase this... Can somebody inform me if there's a package that could help me with installing a D-Link AirPlus pcmcia network card(DWL-650+)
[01:48] <kkathman> apokryphos, I chose that one, and still no playback
[01:48] <LinuxJones> starhawk, can you check the md5sum on the .iso you burned from ?
[01:48] <bourrin> hello, someone knows how to install a digital cam please?
[01:49] <GoneBoB> bourrin: plug it in
[01:49] <GoneBoB> .. that's it
[01:49] <loaofwar3> i selected the right model
[01:49] <gfxstyler> hey
[01:49] <loaofwar3> it says epson stylus color 600
[01:49] <loaofwar3> in the driver
[01:49] <bourrin> that doesn t work :S
[01:49] <loaofwar3> it auto selects it for me
[01:49] <dazed> if i upgrade basic packages from warty to hoary via cd...can install the other packages once in hoary or will it erase my packages i had on warty?
[01:49] <GoneBoB> bourrin: it's a usb camera?
[01:49] <roo_> bourrin, install "gphoto2"
[01:49] <LinuxJones> fabien, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[01:49] <bourrin> yes GoneBoB  it is
[01:50] <bourrin> ill try roo_
[01:50] <etzerd> ?
[01:50] <aigarius> no release today? that spoils our plans a bit. we were going to print them for a handout at a conference tomorrow :(
[01:50] <etzerd> I have problem
[01:50] <etzerd> I cannot shutdown my syste
[01:50] <starhawk> hoary rc-inst...
[01:50] <roo_> bourrin, then try "gphoto2 -P" at a terminal -- should download all files from ur camera.
[01:50] <LinuxJones> loaofwar3, do you have the cupsys-gimp-print package installed
[01:50] <etzerd> I have only one login password
[01:50] <aigarius> is there a possibility to get something more recent then 5.04 rc from 30th march?
[01:50] <etzerd> even when I want to go to console I use the same password as root
[01:51] <blahrus> aigarius:  sudo apt-get update then upgrade and your as uptodate as you can be
[01:51] <etzerd> when I want to shutdown the system It ask me for password before I can shut it down
[01:51] <EvilIdler> aigarius: Friday is the expected release day if you really need an updated ISO
[01:51] <Azathoth> sadly Airport WLAN will never work in Ubuntu :(
[01:51] <etzerd> when I put the password it refuse to shotdown, iut display wrong password
[01:51] <Azathoth> this seems to be a broadcom chip
[01:52] <flodine> whats up guys
[01:52] <etzerd> Is there a special password in ubuntu beside the root password that I don't know?
[01:52] <fabien> LinuxJones: yhx
[01:52] <zenrox> etzerd,  are you typing it like sudo reboot
[01:52] <apokryphos> kkathman: does dpkg -l | grep amarok show the others there, installed?
[01:52] <LinuxJones> etzerd, do you have the root account enabled or are you using sudo normally ?
[01:52] <fabien> LinuxJones: thx
[01:52] <LinuxJones> fabien, :)
[01:52] <loaofwar3> linuxjones: i have the gimp-print installed
[01:52] <etzerd> I   just click on reboot systerm
[01:52] <starhawk> I am new to ubunta and tring to install the harray but the cd rom says cdrom failure am what am I doing wrong help(ashamed)            hoary rc-inst...
[01:52] <EvilIdler> apokryphos: You can also use wildcard in dpkg -l
[01:53] <aigarius> oh, well. then we'll burn and give away the rc install cds and tell people to update. are there any critical bugs in the rc install cds from 30th march?
[01:53] <kkathman> apokryphos,  on install, it showed messages sayin it was setting up xine, amarok-arts, amarok-gstreamer
[01:53] <LinuxJones> loaofwar3, maybe your printer cartridge just needs a cleaning, if you havn't used it in a while maybe ?
[01:53] <apokryphos> EvilIdler: yup, I know :)
[01:53] <apokryphos> kkathman: and the others definitely don't appear there?
[01:53] <whiskers> hot dog...that gimp scanner scans perfectly on win98....nice to have it working on both systems.
[01:53] <Azathoth> good night
[01:53] <etzerd> all I remember I did set the system to  ask for the password before shutdown, because I don't want my kids be able to shut it down themselves
[01:53] <apokryphos> kkathman: anyhow, if using aRts you'll likely need to get the akode-mpeg package
[01:53] <kkathman> apokryphos, I have quit Amarok a couple of times now, and then restarted, but they dont show in the configure-amarok screen
[01:53] <etzerd> but there is no time the setting ask me to create a root password
[01:54] <LinuxJones> starhawk, maybe you have a bad burn on the cd can you try burning to another disk ?
[01:54] <flodine> little help i made a root password but cant sign in as root to graphical login help
[01:54] <apokryphos> kkathman: that's quite odd. Hm.
[01:54] <starhawk> yes
[01:54] <starhawk> I used kb3
[01:54] <kkathman> apokryphos, this is amarok 1.2 is that recent?
[01:54] <EvilIdler> flodine: I don't think root is supposed to log in to X
[01:54] <whiskers> now i can use my old junk printers as well as my epson for linux
[01:54] <apokryphos> kkathman: plain 1.2? 1.2.3 is in repos
[01:54] <snybole> Hum, I'm having some trouble installing java, is there an apt-get for it? I've installed java-common but the program requiring says it's still not installed
[01:54] <LinuxJones> flodine, you should be booting into the account that you created when you installed Ubuntu
[01:55] <roo_> bourrin, any luck?
[01:55] <flodine> well how do i change my root drives to users
[01:55] <EvilIdler> snybole: Check out Blackdown.org for Java packages
[01:55] <kkathman> apokryphos, I'll try to update it
[01:55] <snybole> thanks
[01:55] <etzerd> I know some other distro like Redhat, Mandrake, SUSE ask you to set a root password and a user password separately
[01:55] <etzerd> but ubuntu do not give you that option
[01:55] <apokryphos> kkathman: just a sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install amarok amarok-engines, should do it
[01:55] <bourrin> roo_, it says teh cam 's unknown but it is in the list of detectable cams
[01:56] <etzerd> the same password I assigne during installation is the same password I used as root
[01:56] <roo_> bourrin, what cam is it?
[01:56] <whiskers> these linux people are absolutely UNREAL
[01:56] <LinuxJones> etzerd, the root account is locked by default login using the account you created during install and use sudo for root access.
[01:56] <bourrin> a nikon 3200 coolpix
[01:56] <kkathman> apokryphos, I just did an apt-get install amarok and it says its already at the newest release
[01:56] <etzerd> ok thanks LinuxJones
[01:56] <apokryphos> kkathman: did you apt-get update first?
[01:57] <LinuxJones> etzerd, sudo -s (enter your user password) and you basically have a root terminal
[01:57] <flodine> linuxjones is that just for the term
[01:57] <kkathman> let me do that one more time just in case
[01:57] <bourrin> that's ok roo_
[01:57] <bourrin> that works now!!!!!
[01:57] <roo_> :)
[01:57] <LinuxJones> flodine, nope that's system wide
[01:57] <bourrin> thank you very much!!! really
[01:57] <flodine> where do i typ it in run
[01:57] <flodine> or term
[01:57] <roo_> bourrin, install "gtkam" its a nice graphical tool for managing your camera/albums
[01:58] <loaofwar3> linuxjones: that is not possible because it prints in windows fine
[01:58] <kkathman> apokryphos, yep still says its newest....I am going to pull out those two sources I enabled this morning..one moment
[01:58] <LinuxJones> flodine, it takes a bit of getting used to as opposed to using su for root access.
[01:58] <mkedwards> I'm having Xorg "issues".  array-7 correctly detects my NVidia Go700 (although it doesn't seem to have a 1920x1200 modeline, so it settles for 1600x1200), but RC seems to use the ATI module.
[01:58] <bourrin> roo_,  ah ok!!!! i was looking for gtcam !!!!
[01:58] <loaofwar3> linuxjones: and second i am only having problems with this in hoary becuz it worked fine in warty
[01:58] <bourrin> thanx a lot roo_
[01:58] <flodine> where do i typ sudo
[01:58] <roo_> bourrin, lol. enjoy :) no problem.
[01:58] <apokryphos> kkathman: nah, that wouldn't affect. Are you sure you don't have 1.2.3? You can check with "amarok --version"
[01:58] <LinuxJones> loaofwar3, did you do a system upgrade recently ?
[01:58] <mkedwards> (in livecd, that is)
[01:59] <QMario> How do I get an IDE for Python?
[01:59] <starhawk> I am burning the new copy now
[01:59] <kkathman> apokryphos, yes it says 1.2.3 just that the splash screen says 1.2
[01:59] <LinuxJones> starhawk, GL ;)
[01:59] <loaofwar3> linuxjones: i did fresh install that is i wiped out all the info on the hard drive
[01:59] <apokryphos> kkathman: yes, you have 1.2.3. Splash screen will stay like that till 1.3 :)
[01:59] <flodine> do i typ sudo in login or in a term
[01:59] <LinuxJones> loaofwar3, ok sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade to upgrade to all recent packages on your system.
[01:59] <kkathman> apokryphos, ok..so Im concerned about why amarok is NOT seeing the other engines
[02:00] <QMario> Does anyone know how to run the IDE for Python 2.4?
[02:00] <loaofwar3> nobody can help me :'(
[02:00] <roo_> QMario, have you googled for "python ide" or something? im sure you're not the first with that question.
[02:00] <apokryphos> kkathman: ok, wait, I'm upgrading to see if there's a problem there
[02:00] <LinuxJones> flodine, terminal, gtksudo will prompt you for a password for anything like Synaptic that requires root-like priviliges
[02:00] <kkathman> apokryphos,  thanks
[02:02] <etzerd> LinuxJones, I drop to Root/Console I type "sudo -u root it still don't work
[02:03] <LinuxJones> etzerd, it's sudo -s
[02:03] <apokryphos> kkathman: all the engines are here for me...
[02:03] <rpj911> Has anyone been able to get TuxRacer working on Hoary? What changed to the config did u make?
[02:03] <apokryphos> kkathman: try seeing if it works with aRts. Make sure you have the akode-mpeg pack though
[02:03] <etzerd> just type sudo -s that's all
[02:04] <starhawk> I am new to ubunta and tring to install the harray but the cd rom says cdrom failure am what am I doing wrong help(ashamed)            hoary rc-inst...
[02:04] <LinuxJones> etzerd, yes it will ask for your password, enter your user password
[02:04] <etzerd> thanks
[02:04] <starhawk> still the same trouble
[02:04] <etzerd> let me go tried it again
[02:04] <kkathman> apokryphos, ok I will download and try that
[02:06] <flodine> guys i need to see graphical root privleg
[02:06] <flodine> not term
[02:06] <pepsi> so login as root
[02:06] <flodine> anyone
[02:06] <flodine> i try wont let me in
[02:07] <LinuxJones> flodine, it does that for a reason
[02:07] <starhawk> I am new to ubunta and tring to install the harray but the cd rom says cdrom failure am what am I doing wrong help(ashamed)            hoary rc-inst... still the same this is not the live cd
[02:07] <pepsi> cause you need to set a root passwd first
[02:07] <flodine> i did that
[02:07] <holycow> hey guys, i'm just setting another machine with ubuntu, and i notice the 'fedorad' boot scripts
[02:07] <starhawk> dose that make a diffrence
[02:07] <holycow> they are great, nice and easy to read
[02:07] <holycow> is any of that going to end up in debian by chance?
[02:08] <holycow> i'd love to see them start using such clean presentation
[02:08] <crimsun> holycow: the lsbized stuff?
[02:08] <holycow> yeah
[02:08] <whiskers> this is absolutely the best thing ever for win98
[02:08] <LinuxJones> whiskers, what is ?
[02:09] <whiskers> gimpshop
[02:09] <flodine> pepsi i remade my root passwd is that all i need to do
[02:09] <whiskers> now we have it working on linux and win98
[02:09] <holycow> i don't like gimpshop at all
[02:09] <kkathman> apokryphos, installed the akode pkg and still nothing :(
[02:09] <whiskers> so for epson it works perfect on linux and for old junk printers it works perfect on win98
[02:09] <pepsi> flodine, i dunno.. ive never wanted to login as root
[02:09] <pepsi> i dont see a need
[02:09] <holycow> gimp is very much a superior interface
[02:09] <apokryphos> kkathman: can't play mp3s?
[02:10] <whiskers> holycow, i don't care about the interface....i just care about the scanning and printing
[02:10] <flodine> anyone use grafical root privleges
[02:10] <apokryphos> kkathman: seems somewhat obvious, but make sure the volume is full up ;). Does it refuse to play them, or apepar as though it is?
[02:10] <kkathman> apokryphos, I dont have any mp3s on this computer
[02:10] <apokryphos> flodine: not recommended
[02:10] <pepsi> flodine, what exactly do you want to do>?
[02:11] <flodine> i just want to make a harddrive user
[02:11] <apokryphos> kkathman: it's worth finding out whether it's the audioCD function, or the general playback.
[02:11] <apokryphos> kkathman: since the audioCD part relies on kdemultimedia; something different.
[02:11] <kkathman> apokryphos, well as I am unfamiliar with Amarok...It does seem to be playing..the track blinks when I press play. I did go to the tray area and clicked on the Volume and looked at the mixer and all SEEMS well there at least as far as I can see
[02:11] <starhawk> I am new to ubunta and tring to install the harray but the cd rom says cdrom failure am what am I doing wrong help(ashamed)            hoary rc-inst... still the same this is not the live cd
[02:12] <holycow> whiskers, *ooo*, cool
[02:12] <flodine> i cant get in to my other hard drives there root can i change them
[02:12] <kkathman> apokryphos, let me see if I can get some mp3 from somewhere. not sure where
[02:12] <apokryphos> kkathman: is the progress bar, for the music, moving?
[02:12] <holycow> whiskers, would you mind commenting on the printing and scanning?  what is being worked on exactly?
[02:13] <apokryphos> kkathman: alright; problem is I've gotta shoot off in a sec, so might not be able to help anymore tonight
[02:13] <kkathman> apokryphos, hey thanks for your help...and no, there doesnt seem to be any movement on that playback grid toward the bottom
[02:13] <holycow> or maybe what is lacking? i don't think i know enough about that end of gimp things
[02:14] <kkathman> apokryphos, and the progress bar doesnt move either
[02:14] <apokryphos> kkathman: right, then it's not playing. Give the mp3 a go, and if there's a problem I'll try to catch you tomorrow. Or, better, people in #kubuntu might be able to help
[02:14] <apokryphos> see ya
[02:14] <kkathman> apokryphos, thankx for your help :)
[02:14] <apokryphos> No problem at all
[02:15] <starhawk> I am new to ubunta and tring to install the harray but the cd rom says cdrom failure am what am I doing wrong help(ashamed)            hoary rc-inst... still the same this is not the live cd
[02:15] <whiskers> holycow, well i already had scanning and printing working perfect on linux with gimp and epson
[02:15] <Xeon3D> starhawk, maybe you got problems while burning the CD. To be sure, burn another one or order one or two from ubuntu.org
[02:15] <Xeon3D> (hi gals and guys)
[02:15] <whiskers> holycow, so i compiled gimpshop to see what it looks like on linux
[02:15] <starhawk> I did burn anther
[02:16] <holycow> ohhhh i see :)
[02:16] <whiskers> holycow, so it looks nice so i decided to make a win98 version
[02:16] <holycow> haha
[02:16] <holycow> you made a win98 version? no kidding?
[02:16] <holycow> nice :)
[02:16] <whiskers> holycow, so now we have the same power for win98 as linux but for the old printers and scanners
[02:16] <whiskers> holycow, this is the best thing ever
[02:17] <ante> problem here... i need to setup codecs on totem player... on amd64 running hoary
[02:17] <ante> ?
[02:17] <starhawk> it is not the live cd is there a command that I dont know or do you just restart the computer with the cd in
[02:17] <mjr> ante, gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gives you xvid/divx, totem-xine gives you that and perhaps something more, with possibly less jerky playback
[02:17] <ante> anyone?
[02:18] <starhawk> i can see the iso file
[02:19] <ante> mjr, thx
[02:19] <ante> mjr, is that all?
[02:20] <starhawk> I am new to ubunta and tring to install the harray but the cd rom says cdrom failure am what am I doing wrong help(ashamed)            hoary rc-inst... still the same this is not the live cd it is not the live cd is there a command that I dont know or do you just restart the computer with the cd in  i can see the iso file
[02:21] <mjr> ante, well, if you wanted the proprietary windows codecs, you won't have that with a 64-bit player; you'd need to install a 32-bit chroot with a player and the codecs, or kludge around it otherwise (since there's no proper multiarch support yet)
[02:22] <ante> mjr, thx again... will amd64 support rise soon?
[02:22] <ante> mjr, codec amd64 support that is
[02:23] <mjr> ante, probably not, since they pretty much require a 32-bit player to function. Multiarch will at some point make it more transparent.
[02:23] <mjr> of course, it might be that proprietary win64 codecs will start to surface, at which point somebody probably kludges together support for those with 64-bit players, but this is speculation
[02:24] <ante> thx... again... bye
[02:24] <phoenixp3k> hello! Got a easy question
[02:25] <starhawk> I am new to ubunta and tring to install the harray but the cd rom says cdrom failure am what am I doing wrong help(ashamed)            hoary rc-inst... still the same this is not the live cd it is not the live cd is there a command that I dont know or do you just restart the computer with the cd in  i can see the iso file
[02:25] <Orbo> ahoy, I just upgraded to hoary and cd player won't start, no biggie, I just link /dev/hdc to /dev/cdrom
[02:25] <Orbo> but the thing is...
[02:25] <Orbo> I have to do this every time my computer restarts
[02:26] <phoenixp3k> I have firefox 0.9.3 and need to upgrade to 1.0.2 but the wich directory must I install it to overwrite previous version
[02:28] <chrismurf> Corlib not in sync with this runtime: expected corlib version 22, found 32.
[02:28] <chrismurf> Download a newer corlib or a newer runtime at http://www.go-mono.com/daily.
[02:28] <chrismurf> Anybody know how to resolve that?  I've tried removing every cil and mono package on my system.  No luck.
[02:28] <libben> phoenixp3k, install it with synaptic?
[02:28] <rpj911> Has anyone been able to get  TuxRacer going on Hoary?
[02:28] <phxguy> anyone know how i can play music from itunes in linux?
[02:28] <qeed> yes to rpg911
[02:28] <qeed> i compiled it
[02:29] <phoenixp3k> libben so I uninstall the previous version first?
[02:29] <libben> not really
[02:29] <rpj911> when i configure,  it can't find tcl8.x libs
[02:29] <libben> just hit aply in synaptic and let it install
[02:30] <qeed> then do an apt-get install tc
[02:30] <qeed> tcl
[02:30] <qeed> i mean
[02:30] <QMario> How do I enable Windows to download the correct printer driver from my Linux server?
[02:30] <qeed> but tuxracer should have a repository
[02:31] <qeed> in the debian packages....
[02:31] <Jas0n> can ubuntu be install straight from the internet?
[02:31] <QMario> Yes
[02:31] <whiskers> qeed, tuxracer is in synaptic and it works nice on ubuntu
[02:31] <Jas0n> how?
[02:31] <xMaximex> is sound blaster live supported ?? i only see my onboard soundcard in the device manager
[02:31] <QMario> A network install.
[02:31] <snybole> is it hard to get my radeon working properly in ubuntu?
[02:31] <crimsun> xMaximex: yes, it is
[02:31] <rpj911> i did aptitude several times chasing those, but their names are slightly different than the config looks for i think
[02:32] <xMaximex> crimsun, I'm under ubuntu right now :)
[02:32] <rpj911> i will try synaptic
[02:32] <crimsun> xMaximex: please paste lspci -v, lsmod, and cat /proc/asound/cards  onto http://pastebin.com
[02:32] <xMaximex> crimsun, where did you tell me to go ?
[02:32] <xMaximex> okay
[02:32] <QMario> I don't know the exact process, but you can just order a free CD from ubuntu.com
[02:32] <rpj911> tnx qeed and whiskers
[02:32] <QMario> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/
[02:33] <QMario> How do I enable Windows to download the correct printer driver from my Linux server?
[02:33] <Jas0n> well ive got no cd installed on the system
[02:34] <xMaximex> http://www.pastebin.com/267675
[02:34] <rpj911> tnx qeed and whiskers
[02:34] <Jas0n> i think ive found something on it tho
[02:34] <xMaximex> http://www.pastebin.com/267676
[02:35] <xMaximex> http://www.pastebin.com/267678
[02:35] <xMaximex> the end
[02:35] <xMaximex> ;)
[02:35] <knewt> i guess there
[02:35] <LinuxJones> QMario, is there some install procedure within windows to add a network printer ?
[02:35] <QMario> Yes
[02:35] <xophEr> how do I install ubuntu to a specific partition on a specific hard drive?
[02:35] <knewt> i guess there's absolutely no chance of the cvs x.org in hoary?
[02:36] <flodine> ok this is not right i can get into my root drives help please
[02:36] <LinuxJones> QMario, it doesn't ask for your printers cd disk ?
[02:36] <flodine> help
[02:36] <crimsun> knewt: no. Main is frozen, essentially.
[02:36] <QMario> No, the the printer is an HP PSC 2410 connected via USB to my Linux computer.
[02:36] <qeed> all HP PSC are supported on linux
[02:37] <flodine> can someone please help get in to my root drive graphical way
[02:37] <QMario> I know that, but I want Windows to be able to install the driver, so I can print.
[02:37] <xophEr> flodine, open root terminal, run nautilus --browser
[02:38] <knewt> crimsun: didn't think so. i don't suppose anyone might already have done the hard work of creating .debs for it?
[02:38] <dazed> if u have a usb disk what is the location that it will be placed?
[02:38] <QMario> LinuxJones, are still there?
[02:38] <crimsun> knewt: not that I know of
[02:38] <LinuxJones> QMario, yeah but windows needs to load the driver to format the data for your model of printer
[02:38] <crimsun> xMaximex: are you absolutely sure there's an sblive in your machine? It doesn't appear at all in any of those listings.
[02:39] <dcooper> does anyone know of a good screen capture utility?
[02:39] <xMaximex> 1 [AudioPCI       ] : ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
[02:39] <xMaximex>                      Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xd000, irq 5
[02:39] <crimsun> xMaximex: according to those output, you have 3 sound cards - none of them are a sblive.
[02:39] <xMaximex> this is it, i think
[02:39] <flodine> xophER thxs your the shit dude'
[02:39] <crimsun> xMaximex: that's an audioPCI
[02:39] <crimsun> xMaximex: not an sblive
[02:39] <LinuxJones> QMario, can you add it manually and set it as a netowrk printer (I haven't run windows in like 5 years, going from memory :D)
[02:39] <QMario> The problem is that Windows says that the printer driver is invalid.
[02:39] <flodine> much love
[02:39] <knewt> crimsun: drat. cvs x.org is the only way for me to get dri support for my graphics chipset, and i'd obviously prefer to manage it as .debs to make upgrading at a later date easy
[02:40] <crimsun> knewt: Breezy opens fairly soon
[02:40] <xMaximex> crimsun, maybe, but is I connect my speaker to the other card (not the onboard) .. there's no sound
[02:40] <QMario> No, it's not listed in the Windows print drivers directory.
[02:40] <xophEr> how do I install ubuntu to a specific partition on a specific hard drive?
[02:40] <EvilIdler> knewt: What chipset?
[02:40] <knewt> i'm doing without right now, but it's annoying
[02:40] <crimsun> xMaximex: come again?
[02:40] <xMaximex> crimsun, what ?
[02:40] <LinuxJones> QMario, so you can't add a network printer somewhere in the control panel ?
[02:41] <crimsun> xMaximex: I can't understand what you just said
[02:41] <knewt> EvilIdler: S3 SuperSavage IX/C SDR
[02:41] <QMario> No, but hold on...
[02:41] <xMaximex> crimsun, if I connect my speakers on the soundcard (The PCI one, not the onboard) there's no sound at all ..
[02:41] <EvilIdler> Ah, not the most common set :)
[02:41] <crimsun> xMaximex: so you want to use the audioPCI by default?
[02:42] <xMaximex> crimsun, yes
[02:42] <crimsun> xMaximex: are you using Hoary or Warty?
[02:42] <xMaximex> I use this card in windows, i dont want to replug speaker after reboot
[02:42] <xMaximex> Hoary
[02:43] <knewt> EvilIdler: yeah. i was really hoping i wouldn't have to do the work of creating an updated debian/ directory myself
[02:43] <rpj911> dazed: it goes to /media
[02:43] <crimsun> xMaximex: echo "options snd-cmipci index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base && echo "options snd-usb-audio index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[02:43] <QMario> Nope, no progress.
[02:43] <crimsun> xMaximex: next time you reboot, your audioPCI will be the default
[02:44] <xMaximex> root@straightbox:~ # echo "options snd-cmipci index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base && echo "options snd-usb-audio index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[02:44] <xMaximex> options snd-cmipci index=-2
[02:44] <xMaximex> options snd-usb-audio index=-2
[02:44] <xMaximex> done
[02:44] <LinuxJones> QMario, this might help if your using cups >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/NetworkPrintingFromWin2000
[02:44] <xMaximex> okay, ill try
[02:44] <snybole> I have a .bin file, how do I run it? ./name.bin ? sudo ./name.bin ?
[02:44] <xMaximex> brb
[02:44] <Orbo> try putting in /usr/bin snybole, did it come with any libs?
[02:44] <QMario> Thank You.
[02:45] <dazed> its not showing up there rpj911
[02:45] <snybole> Orbo: nope, it's something from sun, java I suppose :) j2eesdk-1_4-linux.bin is the name at least
[02:46] <HKSDU> When I pop my warty cd into my laptop and boot, it gave me blank screen after booting for 3 seconds.  I have read an article saying that I have to put noapic for kernel parameter, but he didn't mention the details, where do I put this command?
[02:46] <Orbo> oh
[02:46] <knewt> sounds like it could be a shell-script installer
[02:46] <Orbo> damn, i remember installing that a long time on a different distro
[02:46] <knewt> one with an embedded archive
[02:47] <flodine> is there a easy way to get muine installed
[02:47] <housetier> snybole now install java-package and then run "make-jpkg j2eesdk-1_4-linux.bin" to create a .deb which you can then install
[02:48] <rpj911> ok that was the easy thing first, review how to mount things, also make sure yur USB have all necsry files installed
[02:48] <snybole> thanks alot :)
[02:49] <QMario> How do I use the same printer driver on my Windows server to the one on my Ubuntu server with my Windows client.
[02:49] <QMario> How do I use the same printer driver on my Windows server to the one on my Ubuntu server with my Windows client?
[02:49] <xMaximex> crimsun, that worked !!! thanks a lot
[02:49] <crimsun> xMaximex: np
[02:49] <xMaximex> one problem fixed
[02:49] <xMaximex> :)
[02:49] <xMaximex> xmss now
[02:49] <xMaximex> xmms
[02:49] <crimsun> xMaximex: use the esound output plugin
[02:50] <xMaximex> that work
[02:50] <QMario>  How do I use the same printer driver on my Windows server to the one on my Ubuntu server with my Windows client?
[02:50] <xMaximex> crimsun, I already tried that without result .. but now that work
[02:50] <QMario>  How do I use the same printer driver on my Windows server to the one on my Ubuntu server with my Windows client?
[02:50] <QMario> Sorry
[02:51] <HKSDU> When I pop my warty cd into my laptop and boot, it gave me blank screen after booting for 3 seconds. I have read an article saying that I have to put noapic for kernel parameter, but he didn't mention the details, where do I put this command?
[02:51] <xMaximex> how can i mount a ntfs partition to permit normal user to acces it ?
[02:52] <T5> HKSDU, before starting booting the kernel off the cd
[02:52] <Xeon3D> xMaximex, on your /etc/fstab add uid=1000;gid=1000 on the options part
[02:52] <T5> when you see the bootscreen of the cd try to press F2 or F3
[02:53] <HKSDU> T5: then what do I type? just noapic?
[02:53] <Xeon3D> xMaximex, : so it'll look like this /dev/hdb1 /media/setup auto user,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[02:53] <xMaximex> ok
[02:53] <xMaximex> i try
[02:54] <T5> HKSDU, dont know try to read the instruction that are given
[02:54] <HKSDU> T5: ic, thanks a lot, I have hope now :P
[02:55] <xMaximex> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda5,
[02:55] <xMaximex>        missing codepage or other error
[02:55] <xMaximex>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[02:55] <xMaximex>        dmesg | tail  or so
[02:55] <xMaximex> /dev/hda5       /mnt/data       ntfs    uid=1000;gid=1000       0       0
[02:55] <xMaximex> in fstab
[02:56] <xophEr> /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs ro,umask=0222                         0 0
[02:56] <xophEr> try that
[02:57] <Xeon3D> xMaximex, change it to /dev/hda5             /mnt/data            ntfs              user,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000  0  0
[02:57] <Xeon3D> I made a mistake on the line before.. it was not uid=1000;gid=1000 but uid=1000,gid=1000
[02:58] <xMaximex> cool
[02:58] <xMaximex> that works
[02:59] <Xeon3D> xMaximex, which one did?
[02:59] <xMaximex> /dev/hda5             /mnt/data            ntfs              user,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000  0  0
[02:59] <Xeon3D> :D
[02:59] <Xeon3D> nice.
[02:59] <Xeon3D> I'm glad it worked.
[03:02] <xMaximex> Arg, i can't change the screen frequency ... only 60hz
[03:02] <dave_> hey folks, can anyone here help me get my ati radeon 9800 pro running dual monitors?
[03:03] <dave_> it's currently cloning
[03:05] <syn1> ok, i got my wireless connection working with ndiswrapper and in GNOME it works fine but drops the connection seemingly randomly and i cannot reestablish connection unless i reboot. ive been using KDE for the last 4 days and the wireless has not dropped once. any reason why?
[03:06] <alvariux> hi
[03:06] <QMario> Woot woo hoo!
[03:06] <alvariux> i just installed hoary but i dont find packages for starting xserver
[03:06] <alvariux> anybody knows?
[03:06] <alvariux> i install server version
[03:06] <libben> when u do complete removal in synaptic... why dont it remove the .ownfolders in homedir? i dont want the config files laying there =)
[03:06] <alvariux> because i dont want gnome
[03:06] <syn1> alvariux: you cant find it in the apt get?
[03:07] <alvariux> i install xerver-xorg
[03:07] <xMaximex> wich plugin do i need to install to get totem play .mpg, .wmv and .mpeg file ?
[03:07] <alvariux> but x is not running
[03:07] <QMario> Where are the printer drivers located?
[03:07] <Xeon3D> xMaximex, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22646 check this.
[03:08] <Yannick_> anyone has an idea on when hoary will be released, wasn't it today april 15th?
[03:08] <cafuego> QMario: in the cupsys* packages
[03:08] <dave_> can any of you help me set up my xorg.conf to have my dual monitor setup work in extended desktop mode, not clone?
[03:08] <Xeon3D> libben do a dpkg --purge packagename
[03:08] <xMaximex> Xeon3D,  thanks
[03:08] <jef_> how do i switch to kde
[03:08] <QMario> Where can I download Windows printer drivers to?
[03:09] <syn1> jef_ did you install KDE?
[03:09] <Riddell> jef_: kubuntu.org/faq.php
[03:09] <jef_> yeah
[03:09] <jef_> kubuntu sux
[03:09] <juan> yep
[03:09] <juan> =)
[03:09] <syn1> jef_: ctrl - alt - backspace
[03:09] <jef_> nay
[03:09] <dave_> anyone think they could give me a hand with the dual monitor stuff?
[03:09] <dave_> :P
[03:09] <syn1> jef_: click session, and select KDE
[03:09] <xMaximex> can't install totem-xine
[03:09] <whiskers> wow ubuntu is catching up fast with gentoo...in the gentoo channel there are 900 and in ubuntu 446
[03:09] <jef_> i did apt-get install kde
[03:10] <syn1> jef_: then you need to restart X
[03:10] <jef_> did
[03:10] <syn1> jef_: ctrl alt backspace
[03:10] <Xeon3D> whiskers, we already beated(?) them in other areas... as easiness of use, installing time and distrowatch.
[03:10] <syn1> jef_: was KDE in the session list?
[03:10] <jef_> do i need to run the updates?
[03:11] <whiskers> Xeon3D, yes...that is true.
[03:11] <syn1> jef_: update the repositories, then update
[03:11] <syn1> upgrade*
[03:11] <Ycros> jef_: why does kubuntu suck?
[03:12] <whiskers> Xeon3D, i think the reason they are still so popular is because of all the specialized gentoo apps and games
[03:12] <cafuego> Of those 900 in #gentoo, over 750 are compile bots.
[03:12] <jef_> i installed kubuntu and its gnome with kde programs
[03:12] <Xeon3D> cafuego, rotfl! :D
[03:12] <syn1> jef_: no it's not
[03:12] <Xeon3D> whiskers, Gentoo has it's strong points as well..
[03:12] <cafuego> jef_: Actually, it's KDE.
[03:12] <Ycros> no it's not
[03:12] <Ycros> heh
[03:12] <jef_> the desktop isgnome
[03:12] <Riddell> jef_: when you log in you need to set the session to KDE
[03:12] <syn1> jef_: no its not
[03:12] <whiskers> Xeon3D, but anyway the ubuntu audience is very very large and catching up with gentoo fast
[03:12] <Ycros> Xeon3D: the word is "beat"
[03:12] <cafuego> jef_: Only if you tell it to start GNome (via say .xsession)
[03:12] <juan> how can I change the brown color when gnome is starting? at .bashrc ? thanks guyz
[03:13] <jef_> unless itdo i need to edit something?
[03:13] <Xeon3D> Ycros, thanks.  They get strted via init regardless.
[03:14] <cafuego> alvariux: x-window-system
[03:14] <alvariux> thanks cafuego
[03:15] <mathmatt> I have a problem with an excessive startup time because "configuring network devices" takes a full two minutes.  I suspect it is looking for a connection on eth0, which I only use ocasionally. (I usually use wifi)  How do I edit the startup process and lower the timeout of searching for the network connectivity?  Thanks to anyone sho can help!
[03:15] <syn1> are there any other desktops available thru apt-get, other than gnome and kde
[03:15] <mathmatt> By the way, I'm on Hoary
[03:15] <syn1> mathmatt: do you have ndiswrapper going
[03:16] <syn1> mathmatt: with your wifi
[03:16] <mathmatt> synl: hmm I dont know.
[03:16] <Xeon3D> mathmatt, ... erm.. under networking .. try disabling or unsetting the "DHCP" option.
[03:16] <Xeon3D> for eth0
[03:16] <syn1> mathmatt: mine does the same thing, im online with wifi as well
[03:17] <mathmatt> Xeon3D: thanks, I'll try that...
[03:17] <mathmatt> synl: It only started when I enabled ethernet one day
[03:17] <difekta> i've got this weird problem that links from thunderbird open in konquerer (even though i'm in gnome) and email links in firefox open in evolution.  neither of these is my default client.  what could be causing this?
[03:18] <Xeon3D> mathmatt, and syn1 : it only takes that time cause it's trying to get an address from a DHCP Server.
[03:18] <syn1> Xeon3D: oh i see, thanks.
[03:18] <mathmatt> Xeon3D: that makes sense!
[03:18] <syn1> it does make sense
[03:18] <syn1> i did notice it once i got my wifi working and stopped using eth0
[03:19] <hybrid> hello
[03:19] <syn1> i thought it had to do with my wifi instead
[03:19] <hybrid> does anyone here use mpg123
[03:19] <synd> much bbetter
[03:19] <Xeon3D> hybrid, I've got it installed.. what's the problem?
[03:20] <synd> are there any other desktops available thru apt-get, other than gnome and kde?
[03:20] <whiskers> really need to get gnuboy and fakenes in synaptic for the public domain trailer roms
[03:21] <hybrid> Xeon3D: how do i play an mp3?
[03:21] <whiskers> hybrid, you cannot it is illegal
[03:21] <GoneBoB> you can
[03:21] <hybrid> synd: matchbox and flux
[03:21] <GoneBoB> it may or may not be of questionable legality
[03:22] <hybrid> whuskers: why is it illegal
[03:22] <synd> whiskers: it's not illegal
[03:22] <hybrid> whiskers^
[03:22] <whiskers> hybrid, well i am not a lawyer...but i thought mp3 was a commercial format
[03:22] <synd> whiskers: no, it's not
[03:22] <^thehatsrule^> lol!
[03:22] <whiskers> hybrid, and they may require you to pay royalties
[03:22] <hybrid> no
[03:22] <synd> and the chance of that happening is 0
[03:22] <^thehatsrule^> just use lame-mp3 then
[03:22] <robertj> Gone: It may or may not be questionable?
[03:23] <hybrid> thats stuff like acc trak1
[03:23] <tritium> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:23] <Krys^> What is a good program to use in ubuntu to watch DVD's?
[03:23] <snybole> I'm trying to install java, using ubuntuguide.org
[03:23] <^thehatsrule^> xine?
[03:23] <hybrid> drm kinda stuff
[03:23] <tritium> and gxine
[03:23] <whiskers> Krys^, you cannot do that either
[03:23] <tritium> whiskers, yes, you can
[03:23] <hybrid> Xeon3D: but how would i do that?
[03:23] <whiskers> tritium, when did it become legal
[03:23] <Krys^> you can't watch DVD's in ubuntu?
[03:23] <snybole> but when I write: sudo ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/bin/java /usr/bin/java this comes out: ln: "/usr/bin/java": File does not exist
[03:23] <tritium> whiskers, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:23] <EvilIdler> whiskers: It's legal in my country.
[03:23] <whiskers> Krys^, they want you to pay royalties for those formats
[03:24] <Arnia> Krys^: You can, but you must get the codecs for it
[03:24] <hybrid> whiskers: they just had a mgm settle ment like that but now ppl want the same for dvds
[03:24] <synd> Krys^: VLC [;auer
[03:24] <synd> Krys^: VLC player
[03:24] <whiskers> hybrid, well who knows what will happen
[03:24] <hybrid> yea
[03:24] <Krys^> Arnia, how do I get the codecs?
[03:24] <HackRip> mp3 is open but patented ..., mp3 IS a commercial format ...
[03:24] <synd> Krys^: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:24] <tritium> snybole, Method 2 is the best: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java
[03:25] <hybrid> Xeon3D: but how do i play them?
[03:25] <Xeon3D> hybrid, follow the instructions at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22646
[03:25] <Krys^> why would it be a restricted format?
[03:25] <hybrid> ok
[03:25] <hybrid> thnx
[03:25] <tritium> Krys^, patents
[03:25] <whiskers> hybrid, well first you have to pay royalties
[03:25] <whiskers> hybrid, then they will send you the commercial codecs
[03:26] <jef_> mplayer and ffmpeg is down :-(
[03:26] <Krys^> tritium, u can go to a store and buy a dvd..
[03:26] <jef_> semi-down
[03:26] <hybrid> whiskers if it is patented but open why would i need comercial codecs?
[03:26] <whiskers> hybrid, at least this is my understanding
[03:26] <tritium> Krys^, yes, you sure can
[03:26] <whiskers> hybrid, well i don't know
[03:26] <astro76> http://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback
[03:26] <Krys^> .. i dont get why you can't watch them, if you can buy them
[03:27] <hybrid> whiskers: idk and idc i juss wanna hear kittie
[03:27] <hybrid> :P
[03:27] <whiskers> Krys^, because they restrict the formats
[03:27] <whiskers> Krys^, to only paying customers
[03:27] <Krys^> I bought the DVD
[03:27] <tritium> Krys^, the encryption method was proprietary.  It was reverse-engineered
[03:27] <whiskers> Krys^, that was the write format...now you have to buy the read format
[03:28] <calc> css isn't patented it was just trade secret
[03:28] <mathmatt> anyone with experience using VESA to handle video for mplayer?
[03:29] <xophEr> does anyone know what to do so you can close tabs in firefox with the middle button?
[03:31] <calc> xophEr: it might be under about:config but my firefox won't display it for some reason
[03:32] <hybrid> Xeon3D: once i do that what do i do?
[03:33] <mathmatt> xophEr: try http://twanno.mozdev.org/
[03:33] <mathmatt> xophEr: "Tab Clicking Options" it's a small extension that works well
[03:35] <whiskers> restricted formats are like reading,writing, and arithmetic
[03:35] <whiskers> first you pay for the dvd to get the write format, then you pay for the codec to get the read format, and the arithmetic is all the money they make
[03:37] <necromancer> hello
[03:37] <EricNeon> hi~
[03:38] <necromancer> what is the difference between 4.10 and 5.04?
[03:38] <panickedthumb> 6 months of innovation
[03:38] <libben> ;P
[03:38] <EricNeon> gnome2.10 and gnome2.8
[03:38] <panickedthumb> warty has gnome 2.8, hoary has 2.10. warty has xfree, hoary has xorg
[03:38] <panickedthumb> lots of other updated apps
[03:39] <panickedthumb> an updated kernel
[03:39] <xMaximex> how can i configure a refresh rate higher than 60 ?
[03:39] <necromancer> ok
[03:39] <necromancer> but its not a beta or anything of that sort...
[03:39] <Hayden> when is hoary stable out?
[03:39] <panickedthumb> well, it's not officially released yet
[03:39] <Hayden> i heard it was today
[03:39] <tritium> Friday
[03:39] <panickedthumb> friday
[03:39] <Hayden> ok
[03:39] <panickedthumb> got pushed back
[03:39] <libben> xMaximex, u need to set the straight value for horizontal and vertical in ur /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:39] <EricNeon> this week?
[03:39] <libben> and then restart x.
[03:39] <tritium> EricNeon, Friday
[03:40] <xMaximex> libben, okay
[03:40] <necromancer> ok
[03:40] <necromancer> thank you
[03:40] <dazed> damn...how many updates u think going to come (if u on hoary currently) once the final release is let
[03:40] <libben> u know which values ur monitor has ?
[03:41] <libben> i have a 21" dell crt. and i have 30-102 and 50-150
[03:41] <libben> on the values
[03:42] <jef_> anyone want to buy a ps2 :-P
[03:43] <panickedthumb> jef_ yes
[03:43] <libben> I want to buy xbox360
[03:43] <jef_> i want an xbox :-P
[03:43] <panickedthumb> ;)
[03:43] <phxguy> which ps2 do you have?
[03:43] <jef_> i have ps2, hdloader, 80 gig hard drive, net adapter, 2 controllers, mem card
[03:43] <phxguy> old school or new thin model
[03:43] <jef_> 30003
[03:43] <jef_> 1
[03:43] <jef_> *
[03:44] <xMaximex> libben, these setting ?
[03:44] <jef_> i want to get xbox w/spider
[03:44] <xMaximex>         HorizSync       28-49
[03:44] <xMaximex>         VertRefresh     43-72
[03:44] <jef_> the new slim ps2s r no good :-P
[03:44] <socomm> I want a modded seXBox.
[03:44] <GoneBoB> jef_: I have both
[03:45] <jef_> sony got scared
[03:45] <GoneBoB> the ps2 has better games and is generally more reliable
[03:45] <whiskers> school days, reading writing and arithmetic...is any of this fair? i don't know.
[03:45] <socomm> X-Box is a better toy.
[03:45] <jef_> does more tricks
[03:45] <drkryu> moddy xbox x2.3l 40gig 10 random games bunches of movies and anime
[03:45] <whiskers> socomm, X-Box also uses restricted formats
[03:45] <socomm> PS2 may have a better library though.
[03:45] <jef_> xbox w/ spider mod
[03:46] <whiskers> socomm, PS2 also uses restricted formats
[03:46] <jef_> solderless
[03:46] <socomm> whiskers: Huh?
[03:46] <drkryu> it also has 6 usb and 2 hdd
[03:46] <EricNeon> PS3 will out at soon
[03:46] <whiskers> PS3 will also use restricted formats
[03:46] <jef_> it will be unveiled next month
[03:46] <drkryu> i love my xbox
[03:46] <drkryu> its playing bleach right now
[03:46] <socomm> whiskers: Huh?
[03:47] <whiskers> drkryu, well if you are willing to pay all the royalties it is none of my business
[03:47] <socomm> Bleach sucks.
[03:47] <EvilIdler> socomm: Ignore him.
[03:47] <drkryu> huh?
[03:47] <whiskers> drkryu, it is up to you
[03:47] <drkryu> what are u talking about whiskers
[03:47] <socomm> whiskers: Just buy a secondhand X-Box, mod it, and be done with it.
[03:47] <EricNeon> but I never buy japanese manufacture
[03:47] <socomm> EvilIdler: Didn't know he was a troll.
[03:47] <Xeon3D> erm
[03:47] <whiskers> drkryu, well we are talking about MP3, MPEG, DVDs, and game formats
[03:47] <Xeon3D> This is an UBUNTU CHANNEL
[03:47] <jef_> then get one from mexico
[03:47] <Xeon3D> not a PS2\XBOX
[03:48] <EvilIdler> socomm: He's been spewing crap all day.
[03:48] <drkryu> ok
[03:48] <socomm> EvilIdler: All right, good to know.
[03:48] <xMaximex> there's ONE thing I don't like from ubuntu !!!
[03:48] <whiskers> socomm, well my understanding is that they made mods illegal
[03:48] <xMaximex> I can't install mc !!
[03:48] <drkryu> xbox mods are not illegal
[03:48] <whiskers> socomm, so you can't even mod an Xbox
[03:48] <whiskers> socomm, or a PS2
[03:48] <drkryu> and neither are ps2 mods
[03:48] <socomm> Can't, that's loser talk.
[03:48] <Xeon3D> whiskers, drkryu if you wanna talk bout XBOX and modchips please use another #
[03:48] <jef_> theyre sposed to be illegal in britain er somethin, but i doubt thats goin down
[03:48] <drkryu> sorry
[03:48] <Xeon3D> xMaximex, use apt-get install midnight-commander
[03:49] <drkryu> i didnt start the convo
[03:49] <whiskers> Xeon3D, the focus is not on modchips it is on restricted formats
[03:49] <socomm> PS2 is capable of running GNU/Linux, so is a modded X-Box.
[03:49] <davix> help please, mayday.
[03:49] <Xeon3D> restricted formats are restricted formats...
[03:49] <socomm> So this is not totally off-topic.
[03:49] <Xeon3D> socomm, it's 99% offtopic
[03:49] <xMaximex> Xeon3D,  doesn't work
[03:49] <jef_> i want to get the spider mod and see if it will support the evox bios and the use the spider mod to softmod xboxes if it werx
[03:49] <drkryu> Hello i have a question about Dell Inspiron 1100 bios a31(hoary newest iso i386) everything installed fine except for the Video drivers(stuck at 600X480), i looked on wiki and saw a small fix but when i rewrote the xorg.conf and rebooted it failed to run X11(xorg.conf is now back to orginal install settings) and now im not too sure what to do, any ideas?
[03:49] <whiskers> socomm, true but the Patriot Act and the DMCA prevent modding anything
[03:49] <xMaximex> I already tried
[03:49] <Xeon3D> I got both, both are modded and I don't come here talking bout it..
[03:50] <xMaximex> mc - Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager
[03:50] <tritium> whiskers, I don't think the Patriot Act does that
[03:50] <xMaximex> but that doesn't work
[03:50] <Xeon3D> what's the error xMaximex
[03:50] <davix> i've just switched my graphics card from nvidia geforce 2 to nvidia geforce FX5500, X server won't load claiming "no screens found" any idea?
[03:50] <whiskers> tritium, well only time will tell
[03:50] <housetier> xMaximex whats the error message you get when you try to install mc?
[03:50] <xMaximex> Xeon3D,  after a apt-get update it works
[03:51] <whiskers> tritium, but historically speaking people throughout  history have sought money or its equivalent
[03:51] <drkryu> .....
[03:51] <tritium> davix, you should sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:51] <whiskers> tritium, there are only a few free/open source materials and formats
[03:51] <Xeon3D> drkryu, check this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21984
[03:52] <davix> and then what do I do tritium, I got stuck with the config, being clueless as I let the install do all the configs at first for me...
[03:52] <astro76> whiskers: what are you smoking? I've been watching you give false information since you started talking about DVDs
[03:52] <drkryu> xeon: thank you, i will read
[03:52] <libben> XML Parsing Error: no element found
[03:52] <libben> Location: jar:resource:///chrome/toolkit.jar!/content/mozapps/update/updates.xml
[03:52] <libben> Line Number 1, Column 1:
[03:52] <whiskers> astro76, well i don't see how you can declare it false....debatable perhaps
[03:52] <Xeon3D> drkryu, np
[03:52] <tritium> davix, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm and see if it worked,  If not, inspect /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:52] <socomm> Read or die.
[03:52] <libben> im getting this on a site... and ive installed java and flash..
[03:52] <libben> why is it not working..
[03:53] <libben> flash is working ... and the java console spits out that mess
[03:53] <roo_> libben, problem with the *site*?
[03:53] <Xeon3D> libben, that's mostly a site problem I think.
[03:53] <tritium> whiskers, what are you referring to?
[03:53] <libben> i cant get logged onto it ... www.shockplay.com
[03:53] <tritium> libben, I think Xeon3D is correct
[03:53] <whiskers> tritium, restricted formats and encrytion techniques
[03:53] <libben> its a site where u can play for 20 mins of free every 24/7
[03:53] <youpi_> hi can we use .deb package to install with ubuntu
[03:53] <youpi_> ?
[03:53] <Hayden> yep
[03:54] <Hayden> just download it and type sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[03:54] <tritium> youpi_, that's the package format ubuntu uses.  Though, you really should use ubuntu native packages, and not debian packages
[03:54] <Liz> anyone have trouble installing limewire?
[03:54] <libben> roo_, Xeon3D  or tritium .. can u get logged on to the site ? without it bitching about plugin ? www.shockplay.com u can play some games multiplayer against others.. its real fun.
[03:54] <roo_> youpi_, using ubuntu packages keeps your package tree nice and clean.
[03:54] <tritium> youpi_, where did you get the .deb you wish to install?
[03:55] <socomm> restricted formats, and encryption schemes thread on my first ammendment rights.
[03:55] <tritium> libben, I don't have mozilla-flashplayer installed
[03:55] <whiskers> socomm, that is why i said this stuff is debatable
[03:55] <roo_> libben, missing plugin. im guessing it uses macromedia shockwave, there is no support for shockwave in linux.
[03:55] <drkryu> Xeon: Unfortunatly thats not my problem,http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell/view?searchterm=dell%20inspiron%201100 explains what to do, but when doing this "fix" it wont let me run X11 because it isnt using valid keywords or somthing
[03:55] <youpi_> tritium, roo_  from here http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/enlightenment
[03:56] <tritium> roo_, do you have mozilla-flashplayer installed?
[03:56] <youpi_> the x86 arch
[03:56] <drkryu> Xeon: so it puts me back at square one
[03:56] <jblack> Hey. Has anybody had a problem with random acpi events filling up their syslog?
[03:56] <tritium> youpi_, install the ubuntu enlightenment .deb packages intead
[03:56] <tritium> instead
[03:56] <roo_> tritium, yep, i have moz-flashplayer installed
[03:56] <roo_> youpi_, yeah like tritium says use the ones in the Ubuntu tree?
[03:57] <youpi_> there is enlightenment in ubuntu tree?
[03:57] <tritium> yes
[03:57] <Nekohayo> anyone here was able to use NVU from an ALIENed RPM ? I get segfaults whatever I do
[03:57] <roo_> youpi_, u didnt check Synaptic first?!?
[03:57] <youpi_> how i check it? apt searhc enlightenment?
[03:57] <tritium> youpi_, it's in universe
[03:57] <jef_> yay im in kde
[03:57] <jef_> thx for the help
[03:57] <roo_> youpi_, apt-cache search enlightenment
[03:58] <youpi_> ok
[03:58] <tritium> youpi_, and apt-cache policy enlightenment shows that it's in hoary universe repo
[03:58] <youpi_> and after apt-get install name ?
[03:58] <canllaith> Hi there :) I'm writing an article and I need to know if a particular option is enabled in the kernel of the major distros by default (It's so much easier if I can just say 'If you use mandrake/suse/fedora/ubuntu, this will JustWork')
[03:58] <libben> roo_, ? dident know there was 2 diffrent thing =)
[03:58] <tritium> youpi_, yep
[03:58] <roo_> libben, now you do :)
[03:58] <canllaith> Does ubunto have a /boot/config-foo file like many other distros do?
[03:58] <youpi_> thank you a lot tritium
[03:58] <libben> allways taught it was just flash =)
[03:58] <youpi_> :))
[03:58] <roo_> libben, shockwave != flash
[03:58] <tritium> youpi_, sure :)
[03:58] <libben> its noT ?
[03:58] <libben> man =)
[03:58] <libben> im actaully LOL here.... oooh boy.. well... everyday is something new to discover
[03:59] <libben> can i remove the gnome bittorrent and just intall azeruz?
[03:59] <libben> cause it want to take som deps with it if i remove it
[03:59] <Nekohayo> libben, yes, and no need to remove gnome bittorrent
[03:59] <Nekohayo> I think
[03:59] <jef_> bout time a good distro fits on one cd
[04:00] <drkryu> .... no one can help?...
[04:00] <libben> Nekohayo, well why would i want it left on my system when im gonna use azeruz
[04:00] <tritium> libben, it will only remove ubuntu-desktop, which is metapackage.
[04:00] <Nekohayo> libben, dunno, hang it to the wall ;)
[04:00] <libben> yeah... ubuntu-desktop is just to update the menu with it removed?
[04:01] <libben> if i understood it right?
[04:01] <drkryu> does anyone else know of a fix for dell inspiron 1100, bios a31, to run proper resolutions
[04:02] <socomm> http://www.google.com/linux
[04:02] <roo_> ^ use it, then ask.
[04:02] <juan> <-
[04:02] <libben> why are the ubuntu-guide for horay saying ~/opt/azeruz ? what is opt short for?
[04:02] <drkryu> who me?
[04:02] <juan> <-
[04:03] <libben> drkryu,  have u setted xorg.conf with right values for horizontal and vertical values for ur monitor specs ?
[04:03] <roo_> we should put ESR's "How To Ask Questions The Smart Way" [http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]  in the topic.
[04:03] <drkryu> yup
[04:03] <roo_> socomm, right?
[04:03] <drkryu> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell/view?searchterm=dell%20inspiron%201100
[04:03] <drkryu> i followed that
[04:03] <drkryu> and still it didnt work
[04:03] <tritium> libben, http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/
[04:03] <juan> bye
[04:03] <socomm> roo_: Dunno, this isn't my channel.
[04:04] <rnz> If I select "no screen saver" then Screen Lock do not work anymore. Is this a bug?
[04:04] <roo_> socomm, nor mine.
[04:04] <jef_> what should i do to install fglrx driver after the apt-get
[04:04] <socomm> rnz: No.
[04:05] <socomm> jef_: insmod?
[04:05] <drkryu> linnen, any other ideas?
[04:05] <Xeon3D> socomm, modprobe is better :D
[04:05] <drkryu> opps
[04:05] <drkryu> Libben*
[04:05] <tritium> jef_, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:05] <jef_> i shouldnt fglrxconfig and replace xorg.conf?
[04:06] <hunter> i just installed ubuntu about 5 mins ago what do i have to do to install the latest nvidia drivers
[04:06] <tritium> hunter, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:06] <Dreamer3> is there something better than vnc to use on a 100mbit-hubbed network for full-screen 1280x1024 smooth remote control?
[04:06] <socomm> Wow, #ubuntu == spoon feeding.
[04:07] <drkryu> Socomm, lol
[04:07] <libben> drkryu, ?
[04:07] <Jas0n> just downloaded the iso and my computer is so old it wont boot from cdrom
[04:07] <fsapo> hi.. anybody knows a app or xmms plugin to make a shoutcast server?
[04:07] <Jas0n> anyway to bypass this?
[04:07] <drkryu> Libben, nevermind
[04:07] <drkryu> Libben, thanks though
[04:07] <socomm> Jas0n: Boot floppy?
[04:07] <Jas0n> how i make one?
[04:07] <tritium> fsapo, apt-cache search shoutcast to look for one
[04:07] <whiskers> Jas0n, that is not a problem...go get freedos
[04:08] <Dreamer3> Jas0n: you probably don't wnat to put ubuntu on it then
[04:08] <xMaximex> hoary comes with only one gnome theme ?
[04:08] <whiskers> Jas0n, it has a cdrom driver
[04:08] <libben> drkryu,  u got it working ?
[04:08] <Dreamer3> Jas0n: at least not a full install with gnome
[04:08] <jef_> wow more simple than i was thinking
[04:08] <pussfeller> upgrade the bios...
[04:08] <Jas0n> well i can boot with a 98 boot disk to access the cd rom
[04:08] <roo_> xMaximex, gnome-themes
[04:08] <fsapo> tritium, nothing found :(
[04:08] <Jas0n> i just wondered if there was an exe or something i cud execute
[04:08] <son> hallo
[04:09] <whiskers> Jas0n, yes if you paid for Win98 like I had to do
[04:09] <tritium> fsapo, do you not have universe and multiverse enabled?
[04:09] <drkryu> Libben, Oh no its not working the way i want it too
[04:09] <fsapo> tritium, yes i do
[04:09] <tritium> fsapo, Hoary?
[04:09] <son> i still dont know what a kernel is but i dont care
[04:09] <whiskers> Jas0n, but if you did not...there is always freedos
[04:09] <drkryu> libben, its still stuck in 640X480
[04:09] <Nekohayo> I want to get rid of some KDE apps (such as kate, kwrite, kprint, etc etc) since I have installed KDE only for its libs (to get amarok running under gnome). This would remove kdebase, is that safe?
[04:09] <fsapo> tritium, yes
[04:09] <son> i still dont know what a kernel is but i dont care
[04:10] <fsapo> tritium, already searched google too... didnt find anything :(
[04:10] <spanglesontoast> the main part of the machine
[04:10] <pussfeller> is this a song
[04:10] <zenrox> son,  kernel = brains of an os
[04:10] <jef_> how do i set ata for my ide hdd?
[04:10] <tritium> fsapo, if you have Hoary universe and multiverse, then you can search shoutcast and find several, including shoutcast-server and darkice
[04:10] <jef_> hdparm?
[04:10] <Riddell> Nekohayo: yes that's safe, kdebase is only a meta-package
[04:10] <Xeon3D> Nekohayo, it's better if yo just removed them thru dpkg.
[04:10] <tritium> icecast-server, rather, fsapo
[04:10] <Dreamer3> any thoughts, VNC doesn't feel very fast... i'm looking for something more like RDP for windows (as in responsiveness)
[04:10] <spanglesontoast> everything else is put onto to interface with the kernel
[04:10] <roo_> zenrox, troll, kindly ignore :)
[04:10] <zenrox> roo_,  yes sir
[04:10] <Nekohayo> Xeon3D, but they would get back in when kdebase would get upgraded wouldn't they?
[04:11] <fsapo> tritium, found this http://www.shoutcast.com/download/files.phtml
[04:11] <Xeon3D> true.
[04:11] <fsapo> tritium, i ll try it out
[04:11] <tritium> fsapo, no, use the ubuntu package intsead
[04:11] <Nekohayo> thanks for the tip ;)
[04:11] <libben> drkryu, have u changed the values ? what values do u use now ?
[04:11] <zenrox> Dreamer3, try tsclient
[04:11] <drkryu> Libben, i changed the values 31.5-48.5, 59.0-75.0
[04:11] <libben> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Horiz
[04:12] <Dreamer3> zenrox: that's what i'm using, wondering if there is any way to make vnc "better"
[04:12] <libben> what does it say when u type that in console ?
[04:12] <Dreamer3> zenrox: it seems sluggist
[04:12] <jef_> whats a command line txt editor ?
[04:12] <jef_> for ubuntu
[04:12] <drkryu> libben. one sec
[04:12] <zenrox> tsclient ant vnc
[04:13] <zenrox> it actuly uses the win RDP and others aswell
[04:13] <billyoc> jef_: there's ed and ex.
[04:13] <tritium> jef_, vi and nano as well
[04:13] <drkryu> Libben, option "horizscrolldelta"   "0"
[04:13] <billyoc> ohoh, i thought you meant a line editor.
[04:13] <billyoc> hehe
[04:13] <libben> did u type it right ?
[04:13] <drkryu> yup
[04:13] <drkryu> lol
[04:14] <libben> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep HorizSync
[04:14] <drkryu> Libben, i give up
[04:14] <libben> noo
[04:14] <libben> =)
[04:14] <libben> dont give up
[04:14] <drkryu> Libben, im gonna write my own drivers
[04:15] <libben> ur on ubuntu Horady ?
[04:15] <drkryu> yup
[04:15] <libben> horay
[04:15] <hunter> how do i install point 2 play on ubuntu
[04:15] <drkryu> this is the only distro i have had this much trouble with
[04:15] <libben> www.pastebin.com and paste the whole xorg.conf and give me the url
[04:15] <hybrid> on the command line when i am using mpg123 what argument plays an mp3?
[04:15] <spanglesontoast> what's flashplayer-mozilla now called?
[04:15] <libben> spanglesontoast, exactly that
[04:15] <tritium> mozilla-flashplayer
[04:16] <Dreamer3> ok
[04:16] <Dreamer3> here is a question you're not asked every day
[04:16] <tritium> spanglesontoast, my bad
[04:16] <hunter> how do i install point2play???
[04:16] <spanglesontoast> hmmm
[04:16] <Dreamer3> i want to run gimp on my laptop and export the app (via X client/server stuff) to my desktop
[04:16] <Dreamer3> gimp=gaim
[04:16] <spanglesontoast> still not there
[04:16] <roo_> Dreamer3, ssh with X forwarding. go go google!
[04:16] <tritium> spanglesontoast, it's in universe
[04:16] <drkryu> Libben, thanks for you time
[04:16] <spanglesontoast> universe?
[04:16] <drkryu> bye all
[04:16] <tritium> argh, multiverse, spanglesontoast
[04:16] <roo_> Dreamer3, its trivial, <1min to set up.
[04:16] <libben> spanglesontoast, apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla and u need multiverse
[04:17] <spanglesontoast> where that?
[04:17] <Dreamer3> roo_: no 3 step quick how to? :)
[04:17] <spanglesontoast> oh
[04:17] <spanglesontoast> how I get that?
[04:17] <libben> drkryu, have u made the www.pastebin.com yet?
[04:17] <roo_> Dreamer3, nope. googling is a valuable skills. :)
[04:17] <Dreamer3> roo_: i know how to goggle, just feeling lazy
[04:17] <drkryu> no
[04:17] <xMaximex> drkryu,  continu, i think i have the same problem :)
[04:17] <whiskers> tritium, i wonder how long restricted formats and encryption techologies will be debated...because this argument is what keeps both linux and microsoft going
[04:17] <roo_> Dreamer3, well, so am i ;)
[04:17] <libben> ur gonna ?
[04:17] <drkryu> prob not
[04:17] <drkryu> lol
[04:17] <Dreamer3> roo_: will it work with ubuntu eaisly by default, no security settings to change?
[04:17] <libben> do it
[04:17] <xMaximex> I can't configure the refresh rate higher than 60
[04:17] <spanglesontoast> give me a link libben
[04:17] <drkryu> hold on
[04:17] <hunter> whats the command to install point 2 play i dled off www.transgaming.net its a .tgz file how to i download it
[04:18] <hunter> err install ity
[04:18] <tritium> spanglesontoast, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#repositories
[04:18] <libben> http://ubuntuguide.org/temp
[04:18] <spanglesontoast> hunter theres a .deb on there too
[04:18] <spanglesontoast> ty tri
[04:18] <libben> take tritium's instead
[04:18] <roo_> Dreamer3, pretty much. altho if u've never used ssh (and "openssh-server") you should read up on it.
[04:18] <Dreamer3> roo_: i use ssh every day :)
[04:18] <Dreamer3> roo_: though my ubuntu doesn't seem to have it yet... :-/
[04:18] <milli> Dreamer3:  Just use "--display" option to gaim
[04:18] <libben> drkryu, gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and paste it into www.pastebin.com and give the url here when u have done it
[04:18] <Dreamer3> milli: i have to use a special option?
[04:19] <xMaximex> hunter, what do you want to do ?
[04:19] <n4cht> for the love of god, why can't nvidia-glx updates come at the same time of the xorg, or even AFTER xorg, rather than before?   i'm getting so damn sick of updating nvidia-glx and then NOT being able to use it for a day or two until xorg gets updated.
[04:19] <drkryu> ok
[04:19] <tritium> whiskers, yeah
[04:19] <drkryu> hold on
[04:19] <milli> If you don't care to do the ssh tunneling bit
[04:19] <milli> i.e, the laptop and desktop are inside the same network
[04:20] <fsapo> tritium, can u try it out for me please?
[04:20] <spanglesontoast> done :)
[04:20] <tritium> fsapo, try what?
[04:20] <fsapo> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000
[04:20] <fsapo> the shoutcast :)
[04:20] <spanglesontoast> open with xmms :)
[04:20] <tritium> fsapo, if you wish.  So you decided not to install the ubuntu icecast-server package?
[04:21] <libben> I just did this in my /home/libben sudo tar jxvf Azureus_<IP_ADDRESS>_linux.GTK.tar.bz2 -C /opt/
[04:21] <libben> but i cant find the folder in my home folder
[04:21] <libben> wont see it with ls -a even
[04:21] <libben> did not find it with locate and find
[04:21] <fsapo> tritium, didnt find it here
[04:21] <fsapo> tritium, i ll search for it again
[04:21] <Jas0n> mmm
[04:21] <tritium> fsapo, someting is wrong with your setup then
[04:21] <spanglesontoast> great apt-get is moaning about gpg keys..........
[04:21] <Dreamer3> cannot open display unset
[04:21] <hunter> xMaximex, i want to put point2play on my computer so i can run windows based games
[04:22] <fsapo> tritium, lol.. icecast found :D
[04:22] <Jas0n> downloaded the odin img file, now what? just put it onto the floppy?
[04:22] <fsapo> tritium, installing :D
[04:22] <tritium> spanglesontoast, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary/
[04:22] <tritium> fsapo, good
[04:22] <Dreamer3> can't open display
[04:22] <hyphenated> hmm.. with apt, does everything stay in /var/cache/apt/archives until it's deleted manually?
[04:22] <tritium> hyphenated, you can use apt-get clean
[04:22] <spanglesontoast> ty
[04:22] <Dreamer3> roo_: the simplest examples i've found don't work out of the box
[04:22] <tritium> np
[04:23] <Dreamer3> roo_: they don't seem to know what screen to attach to or something
[04:23] <xMaximex> hunter, point2play ?? what is that ? i know cedega (WineX) to play windows based games, but not point2play
[04:23] <hunter> xMaximex, its the same thing its just a application that runs cedega
[04:23] <xMaximex> okay, so you have to pay for cegeda ?
[04:23] <xf_> hi, trying to install ubuntu onto a dell poweredge 750 server; it isn't detecting the cd-rom drive.  any clues?
[04:23] <hunter> yea
[04:24] <libben> did not find it with locate and find
[04:24] <hyphenated> tritium: well.. can I copy /var/cache/apt/archive/* to another machine (along with /etc/apt/sources.list) and save me redownloading them all?
[04:24] <roo_> Dreamer3, which is the host? (the one with gaim on it)
[04:24] <libben> I just did this in my /home/libben sudo tar jxvf Azureus_<IP_ADDRESS>_linux.GTK.tar.bz2 -C /opt/ and i cant see the /opt/ folder
[04:24] <tritium> hyphenated, yes
[04:24] <libben> where did it goo?
[04:24] <hyphenated> tritium: awesome, thanks
[04:24] <HackRip> is there a GMT time when hoary final will be released ? or is it random today ?
[04:24] <libben> cause i did it in my /home/libben/
[04:24] <Dreamer3> roo_: my laptop, <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:24] <milli> Dreamer3:  On the desktop, allow remote connections and also allow remote apps to show up...  "xhost +" from a shell...
[04:25] <xMaximex> drkryu, ??? where is the xorg.conf ?
[04:25] <Xeon3D> libben, ls /home/libben/
[04:25] <tritium> xMaximex, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:25] <libben> Xeon3D, doh =) allready did =) and its not there....
[04:25] <scottj> anyone played .wma files in rhythmbox? the RestrictedFormats page has Windows Media Audio under #6 but doesn't say how to get it working, it's also listed under section 9 in the summary. any ideas?
[04:25] <Xeon3D> libben, ls ~
[04:25] <xMaximex> tritium, lol i know, but he's supposed to paste it in pastbin.com :)
[04:25] <roo_> Dreamer3, ok so on the desktop install and start sshd
[04:25] <tritium> xMaximex, heh, sorry ;)
[04:25] <whiskers> xMaximex, the last i heard cedega was a restricted program to only paying customers
[04:25] <Dreamer3> roo_: done... now i need to xhost + <IP_ADDRESS>?
[04:26] <libben> Xeon3D, i was following this http://ubuntuguide.org/temp/#azureus
[04:26] <xf_> nobody?
[04:26] <xMaximex> whiskers, yea i know, that's pretty shitty
[04:26] <hunter> xMaximex, ive had ubuntu for like 20 mins now and im tryin to install cedega
[04:26] <libben> ive typed all 3 command lines..
[04:26] <xMaximex> whiskers, there's a free version of WineX on CVS
[04:26] <libben> and i cant find that damn folder =)
[04:26] <whiskers> xMaximex, well it all depends on which side of the debate you stand on
[04:26] <roo_> Dreamer3, on desktop "ssh -X <IP_ADDRESS> /usr/bin/gaim"
[04:26] <spanglesontoast> sure cedega was on cvs too
[04:26] <Dreamer3> roo_: oh
[04:26] <spanglesontoast> just no p2p
[04:26] <xMaximex> but that doesn't support all games i guess
[04:27] <Dreamer3> roo_: i think i got things backwards
[04:27] <roo_> Dreamer3, i thought so.  :roll:
[04:27] <xMaximex> hunter, did you pay ?
[04:27] <hunter> i have an account and i have p2p downloaded to my desktop but i dont know how to install it cause ive had ubuntu for a grand total of 30 mins
[04:27] <Dreamer3> roo_: WOW
[04:27] <spanglesontoast> still cannot get these keys
[04:27] <roo_> Dreamer3, working?
[04:27] <Dreamer3> roo_: yep :)
[04:27] <Dreamer3> roo_: this is so cool
[04:27] <spanglesontoast> hunter, you could just bring it up
[04:27] <xMaximex> hunter, ok, what is the file format ?
[04:27] <Dreamer3> roo_: the posibilities are endless
[04:27] <hunter> .tgz
[04:28] <scottj> when I try to install mplayer on hoary it says it needs newer versions of libfontconfig1 and libvorbis0a than are available. anyone had this problem?
[04:28] <roo_> Dreamer3, heh, yep, old trick thats been around for years and years.
[04:28] <spanglesontoast> get the .deb one
[04:28] <xMaximex> hunter, first tar xvzf file.tgz
[04:28] <whiskers> xMaximex, so in summary...yes shitty as you say for some but not for the megacorporations
[04:28] <milli> Dreamer3:  roo_'s way is safer anyway
[04:28] <Dreamer3> roo_: yeah, i know just never had an occasion to use it before
[04:28] <whiskers> xMaximex, that own all the lawyers
[04:28] <roo_> milli, Dreamer3, power to the ssh! i saw if in doubt, encrypt.
[04:28] <Dreamer3> roo_: it feels TERRIBLY fast, this is all over encrypted ssh?
[04:28] <xMaximex> whiskers, yes, but it's shitty for us that pay for a game, and we must pay again to play it on linux
[04:29] <tritium> whiskers, this issue seems very important to you
[04:29] <roo_> Dreamer3, yeah.
[04:29] <whiskers> xMaximex, yes it is shitty for the consumer but not the producer
[04:29] <xMaximex> of course
[04:29] <milli> Remote Desktop is way cool too.
[04:29] <davix> erm, ok, now how do I activate the Geforce? Fx5500 TV OUT exit?
[04:30] <hunter> i came over from slackware 10 so i have no idea how to work ubuntu is there some command i have to type in the console in order to run it??
[04:30] <libben> Xeon3D, any idea?
[04:30] <xMaximex> hunter, did you extract the file ?
[04:30] <tritium> davix, read /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz -- it has all the details
[04:30] <libben> cause i cant  understand where it went
[04:30] <davix> tnx alot tritium, youve been tons of help
[04:30] <tritium> davix, :)
[04:30] <hunter> xMaximex, just did to the desktop now what?
[04:30] <libben> sudo tar jxvf Azureus_<IP_ADDRESS>_linux.GTK.tar.bz2 -C /opt/
[04:31] <tritium> davix, I have an xorg.conf you can see if you like
[04:31] <xMaximex> hunter, cat README? or cat INSTALL
[04:31] <libben> sudo chown -R root:root /opt/azureus/
[04:32] <Dreamer3> roo_: i just can't get over this
[04:32] <hunter> dosnt have either that i can see
[04:32] <roo_> Dreamer3, lol, think of useful things to do, u'll have years of fun :)
[04:32] <spanglesontoast> how do I control which audio is the main one for my system?
[04:32] <davix> tritium, is it same for all cards?
[04:32] <roo_> Dreamer3, even BETTER, write a doc on the Wiki about how to set it up :D
[04:32] <Dreamer3> roo_: now, if i choose open file, it'll act on REMOTE files though, right?
[04:32] <xMaximex> paste me in query the content of the directory
[04:32] <davix> id like to take a look, tnx tritium
[04:33] <spanglesontoast> anyone ?
[04:33] <pussfeller> hunter is there a something.sh  in there
[04:33] <tritium> davix, more or less
[04:33] <Dreamer3> roo_: too bad it can't access local stuff
[04:33] <libben> lol
[04:33] <libben> Im so fucking tired
[04:33] <libben> LOL
[04:33] <pussfeller> ussualy binaries like that have a .bin or .sh to run
[04:33] <libben> man.. how could i not get the command =) /opt/ hehehe
[04:33] <tritium> davix, okay, actually, I have an old XF86Config-4 with TV-out, but the syntax is identical to what goes in your xorg.conf
[04:34] <Dreamer3> roo_: can you do this without SSH?
[04:34] <roo_> Dreamer3, yeah, lots of ways of doing it.
[04:34] <davix> can you dcc it to me tritium ?
[04:34] <whiskers> you see at the core of this all is the central disagreement between consumers who don't want to be shafted and megacorporation producers who want to maximize profits
[04:34] <roo_> Dreamer3, none more secure tho.
[04:34] <scottj> so I have .wma working w/ totem, is there anyway to get it working with rhythmbox?
[04:34] <Dreamer3> roo_: well i'm already thinking of "weak" clients and strong servers...
[04:34] <spanglesontoast> how do i control my audio more than the mixer
[04:34] <roo_> Dreamer3, thin clients?
[04:34] <hunter> xMaximex, found a file that shows sh on it
[04:34] <Dreamer3> roo_: seems the SSH enctryption would slow things down though
[04:35] <Dreamer3> roo_: yes, i know that phrase, just tire d:)
[04:35] <xMaximex> hunter, then run : sh file.sh
[04:35] <roo_> Dreamer3, VNC is the way to implement thin client architectures properly.
[04:35] <resiak> ssh -C !
[04:35] <bitsmash> hi
[04:35] <Dreamer3> roo_: is that right?
[04:35] <scottj> is there a good gnome program for loading ssh keys into memory?
[04:35] <bitsmash> can someone tell me h ow to install java jre for java in web browsers
[04:35] <tritium> roo_, not necessarily
[04:36] <Dreamer3> roo_: it's not very usable to get to my laptop unless i'm missing a LOT... uses a lot of CPU
[04:36] <tritium> bitsmash, Method 2: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java
[04:36] <michael> i dont suppose anyone here knows how to set file ermissions on an ext3 partition so a user can access.edit them, do they?
[04:36] <bitsmash> should they not just make an apt-get install for it?
[04:36] <tritium> No, Sun won't let them
[04:36] <Dreamer3> roo_: of course i'm using gnome's built in vnc
[04:36] <Dreamer3> roo_: that may be the problem
[04:37] <Dreamer3> roo_: so you're not in favor of LTSP (which uses remote X if i'm not mistaken?)
[04:37] <roo_> ive seen some very impressive, commercially used vnc implementations over X.
[04:37] <michael> ive read through the man for fstab and mount, and it doesnt mention anything about it.
[04:37] <tritium> bitsmash, Sun's java licensing is too restrictive for that
[04:37] <michael> is it possible?
[04:37] <spanglesontoast> Will someone plz tell me how I can control my audio more?
[04:37] <michael> what do you mean by more?
[04:37] <Dreamer3> roo_:  you mean X over vns, not vnc over x
[04:37] <tritium> michael, see here: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[04:38] <kpeterson> spamg;espmtpast what do you mean
[04:38] <michael> cheers mate.
[04:38] <roo_> Dreamer3, yup
[04:38] <spanglesontoast> well
[04:38] <kpeterson> lol whoops
[04:38] <roo_> Dreamer3, its 3:40am here  %(
[04:38] <spanglesontoast> I want to control which one is used for the main sounds
[04:38] <spanglesontoast> of gnome
[04:38] <scottj> what's the trick with /proc/cpufreq? I change userspace to performance but as soon as I leave the file it's replaced
[04:38] <Dreamer3> roo_: so like the clients would have a framebuffer or svga vnc client, not even X, or more complicated?
[04:38] <kpeterson> which one what spanglesontoast
[04:38] <digitalfox> hey, how do I get the sources for 2.6.10-5-386 ?
[04:39] <roo_> Dreamer3, ive seen some extremely thin clients, not quite a fb, but close.
[04:39] <spanglesontoast> huh well I have 2 cards
[04:39] <digitalfox> I need to compile an external kernel module
[04:39] <spanglesontoast> oh
[04:39] <spanglesontoast> g2.10
[04:39] <tritium> digitalfox, apt-get linux-source-2.6.10-5-386
[04:39] <Dreamer3> roo_: so they were using X still on the client?
[04:39] <tritium> digitalfox, apt-get install, that is
[04:39] <tritium> I'm having an off-night!
[04:39] <crimsun> (it'd be linux-source-2.6.10)
[04:39] <tritium> quite an off night!
[04:40] <crimsun> (or linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386)
[04:40] <hunter> im soo confused on where to go to run it
[04:40] <tritium> thanks, crimsun :)
[04:40] <crimsun> np :)
[04:40] <spanglesontoast> ?
[04:40] <Dreamer3> roo_: wish i had more time to learn about such things
[04:40] <roo_> Dreamer3, in one example i saw, yeah.
[04:40] <roo_> Dreamer3, what do u do for a living?
[04:40] <digitalfox> "E invalid operation linux-source-2.6.10-5-386"
[04:40] <tritium> digitalfox, are you building a kernel module?
[04:41] <digitalfox> Yes, tritium
[04:41] <tritium> digitalfox, I told you wrong
[04:41] <digitalfox> for a wireless card
[04:41] <digitalfox> ...
[04:41] <tritium> see crimsun's correction above
[04:41] <Dreamer3> roo_: web design, systems admin, pc repairs, etc, etc...
[04:41] <michael> sorry spanglesontoast, no idea mate. hope you find the answer your looking for!
[04:41] <tritium> You actually only need linux-headers, digitalfox
[04:41] <whiskers> wow the bionic eye discussion on slashdot is interesting...how can people know which pathways of the brain are mapped to which signals
[04:41] <fsapo> somebody could test my radio for me? http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000 thanx
[04:41] <spanglesontoast> ok.
[04:41] <crimsun> digitalfox: have you ensured that your wifi nic isn't supported directly or via ndiswrapper?
[04:41] <hunter> xMaximex, ok i extracted the files into a folder and there was 1 sh file on it what exactuly do i type in the console to run it
[04:42] <digitalfox> same errors
[04:42] <tritium> for linux-headers?
[04:42] <digitalfox> crimsun, It's not my NIC
[04:42] <digitalfox> apt-get linux-headers-2.6.10 didn't work
[04:42] <crimsun> digitalfox: regardless, have you checked for those two conditions?
[04:42] <tritium> digitalfox, in that case, you do need the full version number
[04:43] <xMaximex> hunter, i already told you, type: sh yourfilename.sh
[04:43] <spanglesontoast> is there a gui for apt-get and it runs off the same sources so i can type apt-get install packagehere
[04:43] <tritium> spanglesontoast, yes, synaptic.
[04:43] <geneo93> maybe he needs sudo
[04:43] <Dreamer3> roo_: i'm trying to think of other practical applications
[04:43] <tritium> spanglesontoast, are you using Hoary?  If so, it's under System->Administration
[04:43] <davix> tritium, couldnt quite get it right, can you hint me what are the most important things to import to my xorg?
[04:44] <spanglesontoast> ya I know about synaptic
[04:44] <spanglesontoast> but I can't get all the same packages
[04:44] <Dreamer3> crimsun: noapic didn't have any effect, do you suggest trying nolapic and combos of each?
[04:44] <roo_> Dreamer3, i find it handy more than anything, altho im not reliant on X anyway
[04:44] <tritium> spanglesontoast, it uses the same /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:44] <Dreamer3> roo_: i use X for everyday work on the desktop, so i guess i'm reliant on it :)
[04:44] <spanglesontoast> ah ok
[04:44] <spanglesontoast> you know I wasted 25 on a fedora core 3 bible
[04:44] <spanglesontoast> ......
[04:44] <tritium> davix, yes, starting from the "Option "TwinView" "True"" line
[04:45] <digitalfox> thanks guys!
[04:45] <digitalfox> forgot to tell me to put "install" in there :p
[04:45] <spanglesontoast> glad I downloaded this distro
[04:45] <digitalfox> j/k I should know what I'm doing before using a distro anywya ^^
[04:45] <davix> can you repost me the link :( lost it
[04:45] <tritium> right on, spanglesontoast :)
[04:45] <spanglesontoast> I now have surround sound
[04:45] <tritium> davix, http://www.pastebin.com/267708
[04:45] <xMaximex> brb
[04:45] <digitalfox> Ubuntu is great, I'd use it on my main laptop but I'm too lazy to reformat
[04:45] <spanglesontoast> and my bass and centre work
[04:46] <roo_> Dreamer3, off to bed, tmo :)
[04:46] <marska> Hello... I tried to mount a USB device (its worked before) and the following message came up.. mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[04:46] <marska> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0,
[04:46] <marska>        or too many mounted file systems
[04:46] <spanglesontoast> as soon as i've sorted cedega out
[04:46] <marska> Whats up?
[04:46] <spanglesontoast> bye bye windows
[04:46] <kkathman> good evening all :)
[04:46] <spanglesontoast> jesus lots of packages to update 93
[04:46] <Zotnix> Oops
[04:47] <crimsun> Dreamer3: what about pci=noacpi?
[04:47] <tritium> Zotnix, you're a multi-poker
[04:47] <hunter> ok it didnt work i typed in this root@Hunter:/home/hunter/Desktop/P2P/usr/bin # sh Point2Play  and it showed this Point2Play: line 27: /usr/lib/transgaming_point2play/bin/python: No such file or  directory
[04:47] <digitalfox> yes Zotnix?
[04:47] <digitalfox> oh hi :)
[04:47] <Dreamer3> crimsun: ok, i'll try that
[04:47] <whiskers> marska, sounds like you misspelled something in your mount command
[04:48] <spanglesontoast> why did you make hunter try and compile it from source
[04:48] <spanglesontoast> why not tell him to install the .deb package
[04:48] <xMaximex> I installed gnome-themes .. where can i change the theme ?
[04:48] <spanglesontoast> system
[04:48] <xMaximex> hunter, sudo apt-get install python
[04:48] <spanglesontoast> pref
[04:48] <spanglesontoast> theme
[04:48] <xMaximex> oops hehe didn't see
[04:50] <spanglesontoast> isn't ubuntu quite similar to debian?
[04:50] <fsapo> :( damn something is blocking my port... how can i open the port 8000 here?
[04:50] <tritium> spanglesontoast, very much so
[04:50] <spanglesontoast> so I can use most .deb packages
[04:50] <fsapo> i m using pppoe
[04:50] <tritium> fsapo, your router, probably?
[04:50] <CB> hi
[04:50] <whiskers> spanglesontoast, well in a way...but debian used to come with 8 cds and ubuntu comes with 1
[04:50] <fsapo> tritium, i dont think so
[04:50] <tritium> spanglesontoast, it would be better to use ubuntu .deb packages exclusively, if you can
[04:50] <CB> can someone tell me how to install RPMs properly in ubuntu?
[04:50] <whiskers> spanglesontoast, but lots of stuff is online
[04:50] <fsapo> tritium, i used to open servers using windowsXP
[04:51] <spanglesontoast> ah kool
[04:51] <spanglesontoast> can I use it on a p3 machine?
[04:51] <tritium> fsapo, are you behind a router, though?  You might check port-forwarding on that port
[04:51] <tritium> spanglesontoast, sure :)
[04:51] <fsapo> tritium, how do i do it?
[04:51] <spanglesontoast> not sure if the graphics is supported thou
[04:51] <tritium> fsapo, that depends on which router you have.
[04:52] <tritium> spanglesontoast, it probably is
[04:52] <Xeon3D> is there any msn client with webcam support for Linux ?
[04:52] <CB> can someone tell me how to install RPMs properly in ubuntu?
[04:52] <HillTop> tritium, if I have opened up to Universe to get a few things like adobie, can I make my package scope back down to just ubuntu? Thanks
[04:52] <billyoc> CB: check out alien
[04:52] <fsapo> tritium, but how do i check my config here? i dont know if i enabled firewall or something like it
[04:52] <zenrox> Xeon3D, amsn
[04:52] <zenrox> ??
[04:52] <spanglesontoast> hmm
[04:52] <spanglesontoast> it's an ati mach64
[04:52] <spanglesontoast> pci
[04:52] <tritium> HillTop, comment out the line where you included universe (unless you added it to the end of your main and restricted line)
[04:52] <Xeon3D> zendog, amsn to my knowledge doesn't support webcams :P
[04:53] <zenrox> lol
[04:53] <zendog> hehe, np
[04:53] <tritium> HillTop, then, do an update with your package manager of choice
[04:53] <HillTop> tritium, Then my upgrading to Hoary will run fine, cool.
[04:53] <spanglesontoast> you think that will run?
[04:53] <zenrox> Xeon3D,  gaim sonthing has it but its flakly at best
[04:53] <marska> whiskers: No. I typed it correctly.
[04:53] <tritium> HillTop, your upgrade to Hoary will work, even if you have universe
[04:54] <whiskers> marska, ok what does dmesg say is it still using /dev/sr)
[04:54] <whiskers> sr0
[04:54] <hunter> spanglesontoast, im not even sure what it is im doing i really need like a step by step guide on how to install cedega
[04:54] <tritium> spanglesontoast, I do, but I have seem some strange "banding" with that video card
[04:54] <jeavis> what UML I can use in ubuntu?
[04:54] <LiberalTugboat> hey hey hey
[04:54] <marska> sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 2x/24x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[04:54] <spanglesontoast> banding?
[04:55] <whiskers> marska, ok and you have a cd in it and you typed mount -t iso9660 /dev/sr0 /media/usbcdrom
[04:55] <HillTop> Jas0n asked about booting from a floppy, - look up  Smart BootManager here:   http://btmgr.webframe.org/    too bad he has left  Is there a way to memo him?
[04:55] <marska> Error message in dmesg: attempt to access beyond end of device
[04:55] <marska> sr0: rw=0, want=68, limit=4
[04:55] <marska> isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=sr0, iso_blknum=16, block=16
[04:55] <marska> Whiskers: Yes
[04:55] <whiskers> marska, are all characters lower case
[04:56] <tritium> spanglesontoast, just a strange effect on the display.  You may or may not experience it.
[04:56] <spanglesontoast> ah
[04:56] <spanglesontoast> but you use that card?
[04:56] <Dreamer3> can i start a whole remote-session via something like ssh -X <IP_ADDRESS> /usr/bin/gnome-session?
[04:56] <tritium> spanglesontoast, no, but my mother does, and her Warty install had that banding effect
[04:56] <spanglesontoast> hmmm
[04:57] <spanglesontoast> I'll let you know mate if it does
[04:57] <tritium> spanglesontoast, good luck :)
[04:57] <spanglesontoast> it has a onboard one which is agp
[04:57] <marska> whiskers: In my command?
[04:57] <sophie_msumu> i d like to load enlightenment
[04:57] <spanglesontoast> but that didn't like x on fedora either
[04:57] <marska> Whiskers: yes
[04:57] <sophie_msumu> i installed but it s not in my list
[04:57] <tritium> sophie_msumu, that's in Hoary universe
[04:57] <whiskers> marska, ok forget the mount...there is a more basic problem
[04:58] <jeavis> what UML I can use in ubuntu?
[04:58] <whiskers> marska, try unplugging the usb and plugging in again and read dmesg again
[04:58] <sophie_msumu> Tritoch|L, i installed but i don't see it
[04:58] <crimsun> jeavis: apt-cache search unified model
[04:59] <infie> smb.conf (and the gui administration) lists my workgroup as WORKGROUP, but it shows as MSHOME on a smbclient -L [this box name]
[04:59] <whiskers> marska, you need to get a clear message from dmesg before bothering with mount
[04:59] <sophie_msumu> tritium, i installed but i don't see it
[04:59] <tritium> sophie_msumu, dpkg -L enlightenment will find its file locations
[04:59] <marska> whiskers: The second message is the error I get when I try to point it.
[05:00] <sophie_msumu> tritium, ?
[05:00] <tritium> sophie_msumu, ?
[05:00] <whiskers> marska, ok what does the dmesg section say
[05:00] <whiskers> marska, is it giving you i/o errors
[05:01] <tritium> Hey there ells :)
[05:01] <sophie_msumu> tritium, dpkg -L enlightenment what is this ?
[05:01] <ells> tritium: hey Mike
[05:01] <jeavis> crimsun; thank you
[05:01] <tritium> sophie_msumu, it lists the files in enlightenment
[05:01] <crimsun> jeavis: np
[05:01] <marska> usb 4-2: new high speed USB device using address 5
[05:01] <marska> scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[05:01] <marska>   Vendor: ASUS      Model: SCB-2408          Rev: 1.2B
[05:01] <marska>   Type:   CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02
[05:01] <marska> sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 2x/24x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[05:01] <marska> Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
[05:01] <marska> USB Mass Storage device found at 5
[05:02] <marska> cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
[05:02] <ells> tritium: I tried compressing the iso I made, but it would not let me compress it below 94 percent or so
[05:02] <tritium> sophie_msumu, you might also check the docs in /usr/share/doc/enlightenment
[05:02] <whiskers> marska, well the kernel picked it up ok...so try another known good cd
[05:02] <sophie_msumu> tritium, I told ya i have enlightenment installed
[05:02] <marska> Whsikers: Alright.. Worked. Sorry
[05:02] <tritium> sophie_msumu, yes, but you also said you can't find it
[05:03] <tritium> ells, you may not be able to compress it any more
[05:03] <ells> tritium: it wont go far enough to put it on a 4.7g dvd
[05:03] <tritium> That's too bad, ells :(
[05:03] <ells> tritium: It will go down to about 6.7 gig
[05:03] <sophie_msumu> tritium, i want to load it
[05:03] <sophie_msumu> load it
[05:03] <sophie_msumu> i see where the files are at
[05:04] <tritium> sophie_msumu, I don't run it.  That's why I suggested you read the docs in the location I mentioned
[05:04] <Levander> Is there a page that lists the issues remaining for hoary to stop being a release candidate and start just being a regular release?
[05:04] <mike_douglas> I want a way to distribute hosts files over 10-20 computers, but DNS seems a bit too much. Is there another way to easily manage host resolution?
[05:04] <Levander> Just wondering how many problems still exist to determine whether to upgrade.
[05:04] <xMaximex> does someone installed teamspeak client for linux ?
[05:04] <dazed> where can i find icon files for some of the menu apps?
[05:05] <tritium> dazed, many are in /usr/share/pixmaps
[05:05] <Levander> mike_douglas: u could use nfs to mount the host files, but I see no reason u wouldn't just use DNS, it's not that bad.
[05:05] <libben> anyone good at xorg.conf ? i really need help. http://www.pastebin.com/267716
[05:05] <dazed> thanks tritium
[05:05] <tritium> libben, what's the issue?
[05:05] <Levander> mike_douglas: i think there are simpler dns server packages than bind9 though, u could look into those
[05:05] <tritium> dazed, np
[05:05] <sophie_msumu> does someone in here use "enlightenment" ?