[08:11] <HPTwhite> ok that was a dumb question....ummmmmm......what distro is that virtualbox
[08:11] <maginot> fugates?
[08:11] <Tru7h> darolu: I'm currently using (hd0,2) in my 11_Windows file, should I try (hd0,1)?
[08:11] <llutz> HPTwhite: its a virtualization-software, no distro
[08:11] <maginot> VirtualBox is a Virtual Machine, it emulates other computers inside it. Its like a JVM for OSs
[08:11] <darolu> Tru7h, windows 7 may be on the list, but it's set to be hidden (the list) you need to configure your /etc/default/grub file
[08:11] <ayam_jago> HPTwhite : /j #vbox
[08:11] <ayam_jago> :d
[08:11] <gottto> HPTwhite: it is an application that lets you run an os in another os
[08:12] <HPTwhite> thx gotto
[08:12] <gottto> denada
[08:12] <Tru7h> darolu: I'm in the file, what should I change?
[08:12] <jeanfi> rocket16, my understanding of wubi is that it is not a virtualization tool, it 'just' allow to have the root fs in a windows partition file, so just the i/o should have a performance impact I guess?
[08:12]  * york105 suggest using the grub-update command
[08:12] <darolu> Tru7h, comment the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 line
[08:12] <darolu> Tru7h, with a # in front of it: #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[08:13] <Tru7h> darolu: The line's been commented. Reboot?
[08:13] <HPTwhite> whats a good free partition tool so i can dual boot vista/ubuntu?
[08:13] <darolu> Tru7h, yeah
[08:13] <york105> HPTwhite, try partition logic
[08:13] <maginot> jeanfi, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_(Ubuntu_installer)
[08:13] <york105> HPTwhite,  or gparted
[08:14] <HPTwhite> ahhh gparted
[08:14] <darolu> HPTwhite, most of us use the LiveCD to do it, under System - Admin; you'll find GParted
[08:14] <HPTwhite> i have that
[08:14] <HPTwhite> does it matter what version?
[08:14] <Tru7h> darolu: I still can't select OS, ubuntu loads up right away
[08:14] <york105> HPTwhite, no it doesn't unless you're wanting to do something fancy
[08:14] <llutz> Tru7h: pressing "shift" at boot doesn't bring up grub-menu for you?
[08:15] <Tru7h> llutz: I'll try that.
[08:15] <darolu> Tru7h, my bad, change the value of GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true to GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=false; then the line GRUB_TIMEOUT= sets the timer, in seconds i.e. GRUB_TIMEOUT=10
[08:15] <darkk^> After update udev at my initrd is broken - it does not even create /dev/sda* disks, /dev is almost empty.
[08:15] <Tru7h> llutz: No, shift does nothing.
[08:15] <Vigo> HPTwhite: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GParted
[08:16] <maginot> darkk^, thats not done on initrd
[08:16] <Tru7h> darolu: I'll do so.
[08:16] <cdoublejj> is it okay to use my windows partition and set it's mount point /windows?
[08:16]  * york105 personally uses partition logic
[08:16] <darkk^> maginot, ah, you're right, that's formally called initramfs.
[08:16] <cdoublejj> i used it to set the partition but, forgot to format them
[08:17] <ackt1c> hi
[08:17] <cdoublejj> now i have to tell ubuntu to boot from the last partition via partition manager
[08:17] <ackt1c> no you don't
[08:17] <cdoublejj> partition logic is quite nice
[08:17] <ackt1c> no its not
[08:18] <darkk^> maginot, anyway, that does not create any difference - my /dev is empty and initramfs script can't find root device (/proc/devices has proper devices, so kernel is ok)
[08:18] <york105> cdoublejj, yes, i've been using it for some time now, useful if you want to inflate your ntfs partition
[08:18] <llutz> ackt1c: do you have any ubuntu-support question or helpfull answers?
[08:18] <jamiewan_> can someone shed some light on this output when trying to access gparted... sudo gparted
[08:18] <jamiewan_> [sudo] password for jamie:
[08:18] <jamiewan_> Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
[08:18] <jamiewan_> (gpartedbin:8670): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[08:18] <ackt1c> questions yes answers no
[08:18] <FloodBot1> jamiewan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:18] <Tru7h> darolu: Do you want me to uncomment the previously commented line (GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0)?
[08:18] <cdoublejj> well using fat32 cause i'm dual booting while trying to dual boot with 98
[08:18] <llutz> ackt1c: then ask but stop spamming
[08:18] <cdoublejj> i'm using 98 for games that don't emulate well
[08:19] <Zorge> lol FloodBot XD
[08:19] <york105> cdoublejj, you're not referring to windows 98 are you?
[08:19] <the_gamer> my perl can't find Apache::Registry i already installed libapache2-mod-perl2-dev and libapache2-mod-perl2 but to no avail. how to install this module under ubuntu?
[08:19] <llutz> jamiewan_: gksudo gparted
[08:19] <maginot> darkk^, your problem is with other partitions or is with your system partitions like / /usr /home /boot ...
[08:19] <darolu> Tru7h, if it is commented, yes; it is necessary
[08:19] <cdoublejj> yes i am, 98se
[08:19] <kalesian> cdoublejj: hi, should be able to mount a windows partition anywhere.. what do you plan on doing with it?
[08:19] <york105> cdoublejj, wow, i haven't seen windows 98 in a decade now :D
[08:19] <darolu> Tru7h, otherwise time will be 0
[08:20] <jamiewan_> llutz: na get a scrambled version of the last output
[08:20] <ayam_jago> the_gamer: go to System, Administration, Synaptic Package Manager
[08:20] <cdoublejj> i had wifi in 98 last time
[08:20] <cdoublejj> 98 is still in use
[08:20] <ackt1c> ubuntu = mounted filesystem network
[08:20] <darkk^> maginot, I'm quite confident that the issue is udev-related as I can mount everything by hands (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/450620/comments/18 for details)
[08:20]  * york105 finds cdoublejj using 98 impressive
[08:20] <Tru7h> darolu: I've uncommented the line and rebooted; the grub list is still skipped.
[08:20] <cdoublejj> check the msfn forums
[08:20] <cdoublejj> http://www.msfn.org/board/forum/8-windows-959898seme/
[08:20] <the_gamer> ayam_jago, i already installed libapache2-mod-perl2-dev and libapache2-mod-perl2 which should include that perlmodule... it can't be found...
[08:21] <cdoublejj> you can get xp compatibility for 98 as well as ntfs
[08:21] <kalesian> the_gamer: have you tried "cpan -i Apache::Registry"?
[08:21] <the_gamer> kalesian, yeah
[08:21] <york105> cool
[08:21] <cdoublejj> why not blood nor shadow warrior emulate worth poo on dosbox
[08:21] <Egyptian[web]> morning
[08:21] <the_gamer> otrs can't find it and won't run
[08:21] <Egyptian[web]> i was wondering what ppa stood for
[08:21] <ackt1c> sceen
[08:21] <ackt1c> screen
[08:21] <darolu> Tru7h, that's weird, did you run "sudo update-grub" after editting the grub file?
[08:21] <york105> morning Egyptian[web]
[08:22] <ackt1c> its all quicktime people
[08:22] <maginot> darkk^, looking at you bug post I only can assume that the problem is on your lvm partition
[08:22] <ackt1c> apple quicktime
[08:22] <ackt1c> from windows xp
[08:22] <llutz> !ops | ackt1c spamming troll
[08:22] <Tru7h> darolu: Not after the second time, Ive done so and am rebooting now.
[08:22] <the_gamer> kalesian, it aborts at: "  '/usr/bin/perl Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=site' returned status 2, won't make"
[08:22] <Tru7h> darolu: Running update-grub had no effect.
[08:22] <kalesian> the_gamer: did you append sudo in front of it?
[08:23] <the_gamer> kalesian, yes
[08:23] <Egyptian[web]> !ppa
[08:23] <maginot> darkk^, this isn't exaclty a bug. Do you know what you're doing when using LVM fs?
[08:23] <Egyptian[web]> hokay
[08:23] <Egyptian[web]> thanks u bot u
[08:23] <MarkProffitt> maginot, HPTwhite  I figured out how to get this laptop to boot to CD. This new HP laptop has a bizarre BIOS
[08:24] <maginot> MarkProffitt, =)
[08:24] <darkk^> maginot, yes. I set it up using usual text install, evreything was ok, then I installed all suggested updates - and voila, I have to rescue system from bare bash shell :-)
[08:24] <darolu> Tru7h, this is my grub file, I have menu, compare them: http://paste.ubuntu.com/401021/
[08:24] <darolu> Tru7h, remember to run "sudo update-grub" after changing the file
[08:24] <maginot> darkk^, Hmm did you updated the kernel too?
[08:25] <darkk^> maginot, yes, according to /var/log/apt/term.log my kernel was upgraded from <IP_ADDRESS>.27 to <IP_ADDRESS>.33
[08:25] <kalesian> the_gamer: no clue then..
[08:26] <Tru7h> darolu: Differences: My GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET is false, as you mentioned I should set; additionally, I am missing the "vga=792", there is nothing between my double quotes.
[08:27] <darolu> Tru7h, my bad; the documentation I read said "false - A counter will display"
[08:27] <Jim_Bean> Hey, I have a Aspire 4520, and according to lspci it has a Broadcom wireless chip... How do I get it to work?
[08:27] <Tru7h> darolu: Should I make it true?
[08:27] <maginot> darkk^, if your lvm partition was working fine, and it says okay there, them the problem is with your NTFS drive
[08:27] <MarkProffitt> You guys can do what ever you want but if you want to get converts to Linux I suggest treating people who are frustrated with respect and assume they might actually know what they are talking about.
[08:28] <darolu> Tru7h, the vga=792 is not important right now, it is used to set the Virtual Terminal resolution; make it true, yes (that's what I have and I do have a menu)
[08:28] <gottto> !bcm > Jim_Bean
[08:28] <Tru7h> darolu: Setting true, running update-grub and rebooting.
[08:28] <murlidhar> hi all is it possible that i can set autohinting for bold fonts to 'slight' and regular fonts to 'full'?
[08:28] <llutz> MarkProffitt: if you'd read here for a while, you'd know that most of the people actually doesn't know what they are talking about (even if they're sure to know)
[08:29] <MarkProffitt> llutz,  hahaha
[08:29] <Tru7h> darolu: I still have no menu.
[08:29] <darkk^> maginot, do you have any idea why initramfs may be interested in NTFS partition? :-)
[08:30] <Tru7h> darolu: What if I tried update-grub2?
[08:31] <darolu> Tru7h, that's very weird, the settings on the pastebin are the way I have it, and I do have a menu; sure try update-grub2; anyways, pressing ESC (on the grub loading string) displays the menu
[08:31] <Tru7h> darolu: I have the same settings as you. I've updated grub2 and am restarting, I'll try your ESC trick.
[08:32] <darolu> Tru7h, just to check; you do modify the /etc/default/grub file with sudo and you save the changes right?
[08:32] <Tru7h> darolu: Yes, of course.
[08:34] <Tru7h> darolu: ESC didn't work to me, I saw something about "General error mounting filesystem" before it went to the ubuntu login
[08:34] <maginot> darkk^, did you read my last 3 comments? My irc just droped here
[08:34] <exco> I want to report a bug but I'm not sure against which package
[08:35] <maginot> exco, so how do you know is a bug?
[08:35] <exco> maginot: ^^ *rofl*
[08:35] <Vigo> exco: Check the local logs?
[08:35] <darkk^> maginot, the last comment I see was about NTFS - I'm sure, it's not the reason. As you can see, I find out that udevadm script was broken (see comment #20), now I've just understood WHY it is broken and have some idea how to repair it :-)
[08:36] <Tru7h> darolu: Just to clarify, I've been editing /etc/default/grub under sudo.
[08:36] <exco> I think it's debian-installer - delete and use whole medium in partitioning screen doesn't show a swap partition will be generated but there is one generated
[08:36] <darolu> Tru7h, try holding down the SHIFT key while Grub boots, that should display the menu; the mounting error is odd, win7 still uses ntfs right?
[08:37] <exco> also there's a translation error (to German) ... but I can't find the corresponding string in launchpad/translate
[08:37] <darolu> Tru7h, yes, /etc/default/grub sets the options like displaying the menu, adding a background image, etc.
[08:37] <Tru7h> darolu: Yes, the Win7 partition was formatted with NTFS. I'll reboot while holding down shift.
[08:37] <Vigo> exco: What version?
[08:37] <exco> daily of karmic
[08:37] <exco> ,vig
[08:37] <exco> , Vigo
[08:38] <Tru7h> darolu: Holding shift has successfully displayed the menu, but Windows 7 is not on it.
[08:38] <syx> 操
[08:39] <darolu> Tru7h, :( OK these are my final ideas; modify both /etc/grub.d/11_windows and /etc/grub.d/40_custom files with: http://paste.ubuntu.com/401020/
[08:40] <Vigo> exco: You can de-select that, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man1/dselect.1.html
[08:41] <TomV_415> Tru7h: You may also want to check out this option to build the menu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Automatic%20Entries
[08:41] <bsdgroup> hi! is there possibility to setup irc server that can communicate with ldap, I want to setup irc server that will allow connection to server only if they has acc in ldap db...
[08:41] <exco> Vigo: so I should check with dselect on the usb stick what version of debian-installer it is using?
[08:42] <Vigo> exco: You can do that if you wish, yes, here is the karmic page: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man1/dselect.1.html
[08:42] <TomV_415> Tru7h: Looks like you may have already gone down that road.. never mind .  good luck!
[08:44]  * maginot damn connection :X
[08:44] <jasonmchristos> hello is rsync ove ssh the best way to backup from my laptop to a computer at home?
[08:45] <bsdgroup> hi! is there possibility to setup irc server that can communicate with ldap, I want to setup irc server that will allow connection to server only if members have account in ldap db...
[08:45] <darolu> Tru7h, if this fails too all I can think of is installing "sudo apt-get install startupmanager" and hope the GUI fixes it (it's almost 3a.m. where I live and I can't think of anything else)
[08:45] <abhinav> !best | jasonmchristos
[08:45] <Tru7h> darolu: It worked! I now have "Windows 7" and "Microsoft Windows 7" in my list, which should I choose? (by the way, I still have to hold shift to bring up the menu)
[08:45] <ackt1c> cards anyone
[08:45] <Tru7h> TomV_415: Thank you, either way. :)
[08:45] <abhinav> jasonmchristos: rsync over ssh is good .. in addition you could try a package called unison, if you're looking for file sync
[08:46] <jasonmchristos> abhinav: i will look up unison
[08:46] <darolu> Tru7h, excellent! both options have the same configuration so any of them should work; I'd put my money on the Microsoft Windows 7 one as it is the one in 40_custom
[08:46] <york105> jasonmchristos, rsync is far more sophisticated than the plane jane ssh we use, have a look at rsync man for more info
[08:46] <Tru7h> darolu: That's understandable, I'm in the same time zone as you and I have a class at 9:30 so I'll be calling it a night soon. Will your last suggestion make it so I don't have to hold shift?
[08:46] <maginot> bsdgroup, I think you're in the wrong channel...
[08:47] <bsdgroup> why?
[08:47] <prodigel> Hi all. I've just installed karmic and updated it, and I have problems connecting to it using xdmcp. I get the login screen, I can fill my user/password, but after authentication all I see is the mouse cursor while the screen is black.
[08:47] <Tru7h> darolu: I chose "Microsoft Windows 7" and got "BOOTMGR is missing / Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart"
[08:47] <jasonmchristos> york105: i thought rsync was a seperate command and i would just use ssh for transport
[08:47] <abhinav> jasonmchristos: unison is geared more towards syncing multiple versions (and diff, etc) than backup - for backup rsync is good. and there may be some backup tools that use it (gui based)
[08:47] <ackt1c> damn
[08:47] <Vigo> jasonmchristos: That is kinda complicating things, one home box to another , back in time or many other back-up utilities are available, and there are many that are Network based for what you are asking.
[08:47] <ackt1c> these schemes themes and colors are fucking with me
[08:47] <darolu> Tru7h, my last suggestion does the exact same thing you did manually but you can give it a shot; it's really weird you don't have a menu after modifying the grub file with the settings I gave you
[08:48] <Tru7h> darolu: I agree, it is weird, I'm trying the "Windows 7" entry
[08:48] <maginot> bsdgroup, here is ubuntu support, your question is related to irc and Ldap
[08:48] <jasonmchristos> well i really like ssh so would it be as simple as connecting to my ssh server and issung an rsync command?
[08:48] <theadmin> Help required urgently, i installed OOo3.2 from OpenOffice.org, and CAN'T FIND IT
[08:48] <ranjan> which is the google chrome os channel??? or anyone who has built chrome os??
[08:48] <bsdgroup> is there channel that is suitable for my question?
[08:48] <Tru7h> darolu: "Windows 7" gives a different error, it reads "error: two argiments required / Press any key to continue..."
[08:48] <ackt1c> everyone got good seats to watch the game?
[08:48] <york105> jasonmchristos, that is correct, all ssh does is gives you an encrypted tunnel through which comms can take place, rsync remote update protocol does the dirty work of comparing files on remote servers and speeds up transfers if remote file already exists, also read incremental backups
[08:49] <Tru7h> darolu: I'm booting ubuntu and trying your last suggestion
[08:49] <darolu> Tru7h, uhmmm I have no idea what BOOTMGR error is as it is Windows-related
[08:49] <maginot> bsdgroup, maybe #ldap, or #irc... I don't know. try /list
[08:49] <gottto> theadmin: what was wrong with using the repos?
[08:49] <bsdgroup> thnx!
[08:49] <theadmin> gottto: Them having 3.1?
[08:49] <jasonmchristos> ok i think i will look into rsync more thanks guys
[08:49] <Tru7h> darolu: I could try fixing boot with the Win7 CD, but I'm pretty sure that will murder GRUB
[08:49] <ackt1c> how do i see my status screen
[08:49] <maginot> theadmin, executing oowriter don't opens oofficce?
[08:49] <gottto> theadmin: is it in /usr/bin?
[08:49] <darolu> Tru7h, OK you can delete the 11_windows file from /etc/grub.d/ then; the Microsoft Windows 7 option works fine; the bootmgr missing file is Windows issue
[08:49] <llutz> !ot > ackt1c
[08:50] <theadmin> gottto: No idea, that's what i'm wondering
[08:50] <Tru7h> darolu: Deleting the file now.
[08:50] <theadmin> maginot: Hm, let's try
[08:50] <theadmin> maginot: That opens Ubuntu's stupid 3.1
[08:50] <gottto> theadmin: it won't show on a menu if you didn't use the repo
[08:50] <gottto> s
[08:50] <darolu> Tru7h, yeah, I think so too; I googled it and the first results I got said you have to use the CD/DVD, but as you said, it will most likely kill GRUB
[08:50] <ackt1c> how do i switch to private message?
[08:50] <ackt1c> or the damn status screen
[08:51] <theadmin> gottto: I can make menu shortcuts myself, ok? I just need to know where the hell are the binaries
[08:51] <ackt1c> haha
[08:51] <york105> Tru7h, that is right, grub 'encapsulates' windows kernel so even if you want to boot windows you pass through grub, installing windows will kill the encapsulation grub has over the boot process
[08:51] <gottto> theadmin: try in a terminal   ls /usr/bin | grep ooo
[08:52] <theadmin> gottto: Hm, i have a feeling it'll go to /opt
[08:52] <Tru7h> darolu: Deleted the specified file, now "Windows 7" has disappeared from the GRUB menu but I still have "Microsoft Windows 7"; choosing it still displays the "BOOTMGR is missing" error.
[08:52] <maginot> theadmin, did you updated oo using apt-get?
[08:52] <Martiner> Hello people, I have a problem with snmpd, it wont start, anyone familiar with the snmpd? Could really use the help please
[08:52] <theadmin> gottto: Tada. It's there.
[08:52] <gottto> theadmin: :)
[08:52] <kelvinella> whats new with ubuntu?
[08:53] <ackt1c> tv
[08:53] <Tru7h> york105: I've found that I can fix Windows 7 boot with the Win7 CD, and I can fix GRUB with the Ubuntu CD, but I can't get both working at the same time, and obviously carrying both CDs around with me is not ideal
[08:53] <theadmin> gottto: Hm, wait, no. There are bunch of other files/folders/stuff but i can't find the bins :/
[08:54] <darolu> Tru7h, the BOOTMGR is a Windows 7-related error; I don't really know a way to fix it (may be hard to believe but I haven't used Windows 7 nor Vista at all); I suppose you can simply copy/paste a BOOTMGR file, maybe it is in your CD/DVD
[08:54] <darolu> without needing to use the recovery option from the DVD (when you boot with it)
[08:55] <gottto> theadmin: try in terminal   find -name / ooobase
[08:55] <york105> Tru7h, I am not aware of the background of you issue here but the general practice is to install Windows first and then install Ubuntu and let Grub recognise all existing operating systems, can do so manually by using grub-update command.
[08:55] <Tru7h> darolu: That's ideal; also, I'm impressed, I definitely use Ubuntu more than Windows but I still use Windows for taking notes in class (it has a good formula editor in Office 2007) and for gaming
[08:55] <theadmin> gottto: Uh, i think you got a wrong syntax. Do you mean "find / -name ooobase"?
[08:55] <gottto> theadmin: oops yep
[08:56] <gottto> theadmin: or search for soffice
[08:56] <Tru7h> york105: I agree, that should work, but I've tried reinstalling Ubuntu twice and both times it has failed to recognize Windows in both the installer (it says no operating systems were detected on my hard drive) and in the boot loader, even when I run grub-update
[08:56] <ShazbotMcMurder> Why should you use gksudo over sudo?
[08:56] <gottto> !gksudo
[08:57] <coz_> ShazbotMcMurder,  many here prefer to use gksudo for "graphical" apps
[08:57] <o__> helllllooooooooooo
[08:57] <maginot> Hi
[08:57] <york105> Tru7h, is Windows on the same disc as Ubuntu (although on a different logical partition)?
[08:57] <Tru7h> york105: Yes, this is a laptop and it has only one HDD.
[08:57] <darolu> Tru7h, oh yeah video games is probably the only thing I miss (sometimes). Did the startupmanager helped with the no grub-menu issue?
[08:57] <ShazbotMcMurder> coz_, does it really make a difference?
[08:58] <ShazbotMcMurder> or is it just that it looks a pretty?
[08:58] <Tru7h> darolu: I've been messing with options, sorry, what was the startupmanager command again?
[08:58] <york105> Tru7h, and if I may enquire, what does your partition table look like?
[08:58] <coz_> ShazbotMcMurder,  well there can on rare occasions be issues  because sudo can run an application with root pirvileges but use the user's configuration
[08:58] <theadmin> Found it. Thanks a LOT, gotto, had to make a crazy find syntax though: "find / -name soffice 2>/dev/null"
[08:58] <llutz> ShazbotMcMurder: it does
[08:58] <coz_> ShazbotMcMurder,  i think that is the main issue
[08:59] <gottto> ShazbotMcMurder: it sets the graphical environment up properly - See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why
[08:59] <darolu> Tru7h, "sudo apt-get install startupmanager" the manager is found under System-Admin
[08:59] <ShazbotMcMurder> gottto, okay thanks
[08:59] <theadmin> Now, how do i remove ooO 3.1?
[08:59] <Tru7h> york105: I recall from the installation that I had one 100 MB partition for some Windows thing as well as a 200 GB partition for the actual Windows OS, plus a 100 GB partition for ubuntu which I let the installer set up. I don't remember the specifics and I'm not sure how to call them up.
[08:59] <maginot> theadmin, with apt-get remove
[08:59] <gottto> theadmin: sudo apt-get purge
[08:59] <coz_> ShazbotMcMurder,  personally I have never had issues to date  and its been 6 years
[08:59] <llutz> theadmin: aptitude purge '~nopenoffice'
[09:00] <theadmin> llutz: "~nopenoffice"?!?! What on earth is that?
[09:00] <gottto> hehe
[09:00] <ShazbotMcMurder> coz_, I've never had any noticeable problems, it's been a few years here also
[09:00] <llutz> theadmin: man aptitude (name contains)
[09:00] <coz_> ShazbotMcMurder,  also some will tell you to use "aptitude"  I only use apt
[09:00] <york105> Tru7h,  if you are already logged into Linux can you upload the output of sudo fdisk -l to a paste service like paste.ubuntu.com
[09:00] <maginot> I don't like using aptitude to remove packages, it have to much initiative :P
[09:00] <ShazbotMcMurder> coz_, aptitude and apt are very different things as I understand though
[09:01] <ShazbotMcMurder> coz_, I also only use apt though :)
[09:01] <coz_> ShazbotMcMurder,  well aptitude is "older" I believe
[09:01] <Tru7h> darolu: "E: Couldn't find package startupmanager", doesn't seem to be in the repos
[09:01] <llutz> coz_: wrong
[09:01] <murlidhar> hi all .. I am using gnome and i would want one particular application to open maximised everytime i start the application... is there any way i could do it in gnome ?
[09:01] <pinoyoragon> Hi. I want clients to login in their gdm authenticated by an ldap server. My problem is that I get this error "Invalid credentials (49)" when I invoke this command --> ldapsearch -xLLL -b cn=config -D cn=admin,cn=config -W olcDatabase=hdb olcAccess
[09:01] <theadmin> llutz: It wants to remove 3.2 this way, i need to keep that but remove ONLY 3.1
[09:01] <maginot> coz_, aptitude is much newer
[09:01] <llutz> theadmin: then use a string only catching 3.1
[09:02] <york105> maginot, aptitude handles dependencies better than apt, also its able to verify why you should or should not install any packages ( detect conflicts )
[09:02] <theadmin> llutz: Example plz? I've no idea what package names are
[09:02] <darolu> Tru7h, yes it is in the repos, it is pretty basic (check your software sources) anyways you can download it from: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/startupmanager
[09:02] <Tru7h> york105: Here's my output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/401033/
[09:02] <llutz> theadmin: "dpkg -l *openoffice*
[09:03] <Tru7h> darolu: Probably it just doesn't show up since this is a fresh install (i.e. no updates); I haven't bothered updating since this is my second reformat
[09:04] <ShazbotMcMurder> how do I add windows 7 to my menu.lst, I've been looking through a bunch of walkthroughs, but every one seems to say the same thing
[09:04] <maginot> york105, not exactly, aptitude use to remove other packages too, like those you "dont" use and so on, its easy to remove openoffice and when you see many other things where removed too. Apt-get is very more strict, it does the remove and nothing else, don't try to "update" the system, if you know what I mean.
[09:04] <ShazbotMcMurder> which is already in my menu.lst for 'default non-linux distro'
[09:04] <theadmin> Bleh. I'll just use synaptic.
[09:04] <ottoshmidt> hmm mysql doesn't start after setting default-character-set to utf8 :(((
[09:04] <ShazbotMcMurder> also - how do I tell which hdd / partition it's on
[09:04] <ShazbotMcMurder> It's actually on another whole hard drive
[09:04] <maginot> theadmin, which is a apt-get gui frontend =P
[09:04] <ShazbotMcMurder> would 'mount' still work?
[09:05] <Tru7h> darolu: sudo apt-get update allowed me to detect the file, sorry for my laziness
[09:05] <theadmin> maginot: Yep, and a SLOW one
[09:05] <york105> maginot, aye, agree but at the end of the day its what you like best, whisky or brandy, pick you poison
[09:05] <darkk^> maginot, I've resolved the issue - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/450620/comments/21
[09:05] <Tru7h> darolu: I'm running the manager now, what should I change to make Win7 work?
[09:05] <maginot> darkk^, was about your ntfs kernel drive?
[09:05] <Tru7h> darolu: Or is this just to make it so I don't have to hold shift?
[09:05] <llutz> maginot: apt-frontend (like apt-get) not apt-get frontend
[09:06] <darkk^> maginot, not at all :-)
[09:06] <maginot> llutz, what?
[09:06] <darolu> Tru7h, is OK, btw I saw your pastebin, first partition doesn't look right, and since you are logged in as root you don't need to use sudo :p
[09:06] <llutz> maginot: synaptic is a gui apt-frontend (like apt-get) not apt-get frontend
[09:06] <maginot> llutz, ahh right.
[09:06] <Tru7h> darolu: True, I have a tendency to be redundant, heh. Would that affect my output?
[09:07] <darkk^> maginot, it was half-upgraded udev
[09:07] <Tru7h> darolu: Also, what doesn't look right about it?
[09:07] <darolu> Tru7h, the startupmanager modifies the file you've been editing manually, you don't have much control with it (the gui) but it may fix your grub menu. And no, it doesn't affect your output.
[09:07] <ubuntu_> YOU DICK
[09:07] <pojie> yup
[09:07] <llutz> Tru7h: w7 always uses 2 partitions, one 100MB + the "real" system-partition
[09:08] <maginot> darkk^, good solution
[09:08] <darolu> Tru7h, the "10  Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary." part
[09:08] <ubuntu_> anyone collect sports cards
[09:08] <ubuntu_> anymore
[09:08] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi all, anyone know a good FTP server with GUI administration?
[09:08] <maginot> ubuntu_, you kiss your mother with that mouth ? ;/
[09:08] <Tru7h> darolu: What does that mean and how can I fix it?
[09:08] <ubuntu_> look at my hostid for gods sakes
[09:08] <Tru7h> darolu: Also, startupmanager doesn't seem to have fixed my automatic menu skipping issue
[09:08] <pojie> it,s me jimi
[09:08] <ubuntu_> this is ridiculous
[09:08] <llutz> ubuntu_: troll off here
[09:09] <coz_> llutz,   yes I just did more research on apt vs aptiude
[09:09] <gottto> !offtopic | ubuntu_
[09:09] <york105> Tru7h, just read the output, the "Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary" line means that part of your disk is unusable, could be because when you were partitioning your drive you chose to go by megabytes and not cylinders anyway so does Windows on sda1 boot okay then?
[09:09] <ShazbotMcMurder> okay, well I found that out - there's a separator in my menu.lst - do I have to put something there, because I would really just like a space there, and it to be separated from the linux operating systems anywho
[09:10] <maginot> darkk^, I just don't get it why did you had to created those nods  by hand
[09:10] <darolu> Tru7h, it means the partition doesn't end wher it should ends (making it unusuable), fixing it may affect your sda2 partition, so don't touch it unless you are willing to run the risk of having to re-install windows (on sda2)
[09:11] <darkk^> maginot, broken udev could not create them ;)
[09:11] <Tru7h> york105: Yes, I went by megabytes, not sure how to go by cylinders (I'm rather incompetent when it comes to partitioning). And no, Win7 doesn't boot, it give an error saying "BOOTMGR is missing / Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart"
[09:11] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi all, anyone know a good FTP server with GUI administration?
[09:11] <maginot> maginot, a broken udev is very bad. Will you keep that way?
[09:11] <darolu> Jimi_Neutral, gftp
[09:12] <darolu> Jimi_Neutral, nvm I thought you said client
[09:12] <Jimi_Neutral> darolu, no worries :)
[09:12] <Tru7h> darolu: What's the chance I would be forced to reinstall Windows? If all else fails, I'll just go back to using Wubi, but I've had some bad experiences with it and I'd really prefer to have Ubuntu as its own partition
[09:12] <theadmin> There, i'm done. For anyone wondering, app was in /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice
[09:13] <Jimi_Neutral> does gproftp not exist anymore?
[09:13] <darkk^> maginot, no, udev was broken as dpkg was interrupted for some reason (don't know why, I have some assumption though) I had to run dpkg --configure -a
[09:14] <darolu> Tru7h, I'm not sure what the chance would be as I'm not familiar with Win7 at all, I don't know if the BOOTMGR error needs re-installing of win7; I suppose re-installing is not needed and that creating/pasting a BOOTMGR file should fix it
[09:14] <Justus> hi, is there a way to install a more up to date version of php5-fcgi on ubuntu jaunty server? I'd really like to not have to compile it myself
[09:14] <gottto> theadmin: here ooobase is a shell script linking to soffice
[09:14] <gottto> ...
[09:14] <Tru7h> darolu: Google has told me that running "Windows Startup Repair" should fix the BOOTMGR issue, I'm relatively sure it won't screw up GRUB as long as I don't use bootrec.exe
[09:14] <theadmin> gottto: Yeah, weird.
[09:14] <theadmin> Tru7h: Recovering GRUB is easy.
[09:14] <gottto> what's in a name
[09:15] <darolu> Tru7h, you can try it, I can't really tell since I have never used Win7; go for it, if it kills grub2 you can always re-install it using a LiveCD
[09:15] <Tru7h> theadmin: I have no issues with recovering GRUB, the problem is, if I recover GRUB it still fails to recognize my Windows installation
[09:15] <york105> Tru7h, so to start with let's resolve the Windows boot issue. I am assuming you have recently upgraded to win7 from XP/Vista, you'll need the win7 setup disc. Insert the disc, reboot the computer, go to command prompt and issue the command bootrec /fixboot . Let it complete what it wants to do and reboot. Once done boot using an Ubuntu Live CD and go to command prompt and issue the update-grub command so it now recognises Windows. Yo
[09:15] <york105> u may want to try booting to windows once the fixboot command has finished its business.
[09:15] <theadmin> Tru7h: Have you tried "sudo update-grub"?
[09:16] <Tru7h> theadmin: Yes, a few times, as well as sudo update-grub2.
[09:16] <Tru7h> york105: That sounds feasible, I'll try it out and let you know what happens.
[09:16] <darolu> theadmin, york105, Tru7h's initial problem was GRUB not adding Win7 to the boot list, he had to remove os-prober and edit /etc/grub.d/40_custom to add the entry; and now Windows 7 won't boot
[09:16] <york105> Tru7h, sure
[09:17] <theadmin> Hm.  It probably won't work, but I figure it's worth a shot.
[09:19] <Tru7h> york105: Scratch that, it failed.
[09:19] <york105> Tru7h, since you're up for it, yeah sure, why not :)
[09:19] <darolu> york105, he is using the 40_custom only: http://paste.ubuntu.com/401020/
[09:19] <theadmin> ubottu: ops | ubuntu_ swears and floods
[09:20] <gnomefreak> ?
[09:21] <ubuntu_> hi larry hows it hanging
[09:21] <ubuntu_> dugout?
[09:21] <Tru7h> york105: If I run update-grub from my partition installation rather than a Live CD, will it still work? (Live CDs take forever on my computer)
[09:21] <ackt1c> hi
[09:22] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: Looking on the forums, I have never used that, but will help as best as I can.
[09:22] <york105> Tru7h, its like trying to fix the deck of a ship you're sailing on, instead you'd want to work from a dock, if the deck cracks you don't fall ;)
[09:22] <tp43_> Tru7h, yep, I think so.  My guess is you use the live cd to run update grub when you can't boot into your partition.  But I would follow a how to if I were you
[09:23] <Tru7h> york105: That's a good analogy, I'll use the Live CD just for that
[09:23] <darolu> Tru7h, york105 I'm going to bed, good luck with that Win7
[09:23] <york105> nighty night darolu
[09:23] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, ok ty
[09:23] <Tru7h> darolu: Thanks so much for your help, have a good night
[09:24] <Tru7h> Dang, missed him.
[09:24]  * maginot night (?) almost 6:30am here =X
[09:25] <shazbotmcnasty> how do I figure out what hd I should put for a windows partition?
[09:25] <york105> Tru7h, you might want to make sure you can access your Windows partition from Ubuntu. I know you'll reboot and try my first suggestion but in light of what you've previously tried, I'd make sure you have the following installed
[09:25] <shazbotmcnasty> it's /dev/sda3
[09:25] <shazbotmcnasty> but (hd0,3) doesn't work
[09:25] <york105> > sudo apt-get install ntfs-config >sudo ntfs-config
[09:25] <shazbotmcnasty> because (hd0,0) is my /
[09:25] <llutz> shazbotmcnasty: (hd0,2) = /dev/sda3
[09:25] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: Looks like it does exist:>http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man8/proftpd.8.html
[09:25] <Take0n> I must have done something but my external hdds won't mount automatically. usually when I connected the usb the folders popuped up automatically but this morning nothing happens.. could someone please help me?
[09:25] <shazbotmcnasty> OH 2
[09:25] <shazbotmcnasty> so
[09:25] <shazbotmcnasty> k
[09:25] <shazbotmcnasty> thanks llutz
[09:25] <llutz> shazbotmcnasty: grub starts counting at 0
[09:25] <Take0n> I installed Ailurus yesterday so it might have done something?
[09:25] <shazbotmcnasty> yeah forgot
[09:25] <shazbotmcnasty> like all computers
[09:25] <shazbotmcnasty> :/
[09:25] <FloodBot1> shazbotmcnasty: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:26] <shazbotmcnasty> lol
[09:26] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: Which version are you looking for?
[09:26] <shazbotmcnasty> meaner bot
[09:26] <gottto> Take0n: do they show in   fdisk -l   in terminal?
[09:26] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, yeah proftp does but i need the gui which is gproftpd but every tutorial i goto tells me to do 'sudo apt-get install gproftpd' but it doesnt find anything
[09:26] <Take0n> no nothing shows with that command
[09:26] <gottto> !enter | shazbotmcnasty
[09:26] <Tru7h> york105: I'll assume you want me to install those from my partition? In any case, my Live CD is booting so I'll update-grub and see what happens, but otherwise I'll boot my partition and install those packages
[09:26] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, any version, i really dont care at this point lol
[09:27] <shazbotmcnasty> I know, I know gottto - you guys are no fun
[09:27] <york105> Tru7h, sure, you're headed the right way
[09:27] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: heh, Did you look at psychcats?
[09:28] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, ?
[09:28] <theadmin> well, wow, 3.2 is a ton faster then 3.1
[09:29] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: > http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index , good resource
[09:29] <Take0n> gottto, any ideas?
[09:29] <Tru7h> york105: I get something wierd from within the live cd when I run update-grub: "grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /."
[09:29] <jae> Jut
[09:30] <theadmin> Tru7h: Uh.
[09:30] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: Did or have you enabled Extra Repositories?
[09:30] <gottto> Take0n: are the drives working on another comp?
[09:30] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, still very new to linux
[09:30] <theadmin> Tru7h: You need to chroot into the existing install to run update-grub on a CD.
[09:30] <Take0n> gottto, yes and they worked on mine as well yesterday night
[09:30] <gottto> Take0n: or try    lsusb
[09:30] <Tru7h> theadmin: Sorry, how do I do that?
[09:30] <jae> Just looked into /etc/X11, and i don't see any conf file.  Where is that?
[09:31] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: Welcome to stable and free. I learn every day, is fun.
[09:31] <Sagam> Hi to all
[09:31] <coz_> Take0n,  you could look here http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[09:31] <theadmin> Tru7h: Mount the device where you have Linux on, then do "sudo chroot /path/to/mount/point"
[09:31] <llutz> jae: there is none by default, if you need on, create one
[09:31] <coz_> theadmin,   rather you   http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[09:31] <Justus> ok, following problem: I want php5-fcgi from lucid, but stay at jaunty for the rest of the system, so I would append the sources for lucid in the sources.list and create the file /etc/apt/preferences with the content "jaunty" then do apt-get install -t lucid php5-fcgi, is this correct?
[09:31] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, heh ty, when you say extra ones do you mean canonical and backport?
[09:31] <coz_> Take0n,  sorry wrong nick
[09:31] <Take0n> coz_, are u sure that will help me?
[09:31] <york105> Tru7h, its probably because you do not have any device nodes in your chroot. You may want to bind them manually :D and it gets tricky from here
[09:31] <Take0n> ah okay :P
[09:31] <jae> And how's the X server know what to do?  Or rather, more concretely, where do I adjust the kbd config?
[09:31] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: Have you spent a day or so at the Ubuntu Forums?
[09:32] <Take0n> gottto, nothing there as well :\
[09:32] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: That is exactly what that means.
[09:32] <coz_> I am not paying attention this morning so I am off for the night
[09:32] <theadmin> coz_: what?
[09:32] <Jimi_Neutral> yes, but to be honest im not that interested in it, im just doing what my ;ehy this is a good idea lets do this' boss tells me to
[09:32] <Take0n> gottto, my USB flash stick won't work either :\ it's like it doesn't mount anything..
[09:32] <coz_> theadmin,  my fault...too tired not paying attention close enough sorry about that
[09:32] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, yes i have enabled them but still no gproftpd
[09:32] <gottto> Take0n: then something is wrong with them being mounted - what was the app you installed for?
[09:32]  * jae thought the X server needed a config file... but that seems to be the "brave new world" of X these days: "I know my configuration, but I'm telling *you*"
[09:33] <Take0n> It was something like ubuntu tweak
[09:33] <Tru7h> theadmin: I believe I've done so, but I get the error mentioned above plus this: "sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu"
[09:33] <Take0n> I read about it in a blog and wanted to take a look give it a try
[09:33] <Jimi_Neutral> someone must know of a good easy to use GUI ftp server for ubuntu
[09:33] <Tru7h> york105: Want me to just try updating grub from my partition and installing the packages you mentioned there?
[09:33] <llutz> jae: all that should be handled by hal now, and by udev in future (afaik)
[09:33] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: Can you use a different package than that and or is one listed in Synaptic?
[09:34] <york105> Jimi_Neutral, you mean GUI FTP Client?
[09:34] <jae> llutz: "all that"... so, it does mindreading to know that I do or do not want deadkeys?
[09:34] <llutz> jae: but you still can create your own xorg.conf with the options you need
[09:34]  * jae hates all this magic crap, yes, crap
[09:34] <york105> Tru7h, yes, if you boot into Ubuntu and install the package and run it from there
[09:34] <Sagam> I have a question: I have set up a File Server at work using Ubuntu server. My problem is that I have a document that is shared on the metwork and at least 2 people write in it. The problem is that every time when someone writes in that file the owner of the file changes to nobody and after that no one can open the file anymore, just the last person who has added data to the file. How can I make the file to retain the owner and be able to have multiple user in
[09:34] <Jimi_Neutral> york105, no i mean a GUI front end to control an FTP server
[09:34] <llutz> jae: true but reality :(
[09:35] <jae> llutz: got any URLs where this is documented?  Or at least announced?
[09:35] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, thats what im trying to find out if there is another one in case i cant get this one working
[09:35] <gottto> Take0n: it might have just messed the mounting part - type in terminal   dmesg | tail   and unplug the drive and replug it and redo that command
[09:35] <llutz> jae: ask ms google pls
[09:35] <ubuntu> exit
[09:36] <jae> llutz: I'm asking, I really am, but have yet to guess the correct search terms
[09:36] <theadmin> Where the heck is menu configuration stored?
[09:36] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: I just did a search in Synaptic and found a load of FTP GUI stuff.
[09:36] <Josh90> I am currently using a pidgin screenlet. but I still have the pidgin window that keeps coming up too. I was wondering if there was a way to open pidgin with no window so it just uses the screenlet.
[09:36] <Kambanka> Ubuntu 10.04 has the titlebar buttons on the left - what were the designers thinking? And were they thinking at all!@#$
[09:36] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, well as i said i am new to this and not sure what is what so i was hoping to be pointed to a decent package that has a gui front end and a very in depth tutorial
[09:36] <york105> Sagam, Linux uses inodes to ref\deref. files, google concurrent file access linux and you'll find what you're looking for ;)
[09:37] <theadmin> Kambanka: Possible to revert them... Hey, what the?
[09:37] <cwraig> Sagam, somwhere in /etc/samba/smb.conf you will find something about default permissions
[09:37] <llutz> jae: look for "fdi preferences xorg hal", it should bring some results. sorry i don't have www here atm
[09:37] <theadmin> ...I like them on the left side.... :/
[09:37] <Josh90> theadmin right click the App's bar  and a drop down as it in ther as edit menu's
[09:37] <jae> llutz: *thanks*!
[09:37] <theadmin> Josh90: I want to back em up. Any way to?
[09:38] <rexn> kambanka: they were thinking OS X style
[09:38] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: let me browse through these ohh, 8k results in Synaptic...
[09:38] <Josh90> theadmin not to sure about that one
[09:38] <jae> Oct 2008... damn, that's old, I'm *really* behind the times :P
[09:38] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, lol ok ty
[09:38] <Tru7h> york105: I ran update-grub and installed/ran the package you mentioned, but when I reboot (holding shift) and select my Win7 installation I still get "BOOTMGR is missing"
[09:38] <iflema> Jimi_Neutral cli alot of the time is faster and/or less confusing..... maybe try gadmin-proftpd
[09:39] <Take0n> gottto, still nothing.. I will try to relogin
[09:39] <Take0n> brb
[09:39] <york105> Tru7h,  and the previous fixboot thing didn't finish (in windows boot disc), did it?
[09:39] <gottto> k
[09:39] <theadmin> Tru7h: bootmgr is a file on C:\ (or whatever is system drive in Windows). Is it there?
[09:39] <Jimi_Neutral> iflema, the reason i am trying to find a gui one is because I said I would try and do what the boss wanted me to do using command line and he is like no find a gui front end
[09:39] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: Do you have Synaptic Package Manager opened?
[09:39] <theadmin> Tru7h: (mount your ntfs device. It should be called simply "bootmgr")
[09:39] <shazbotmcnasty> hey, I got windows to go into grub
[09:39] <jae> And: XML again.  "XML is the panacea, it is the silver bullet, and we shit on Fred Brooks"...  and I actually like XML, mind you
[09:39] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, i do now
[09:40] <shazbotmcnasty> but instead of (hd0,2) for /dev/sda3, it turned out to be (hd1,1)
[09:40] <shazbotmcnasty> I don't know why
[09:40]  * jae is getting into a pissy mood, so I better so outta here for a bit :/
[09:40] <AbortD> hui of what?
[09:40] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: Look at pyftp
[09:40] <Tru7h> york105: It said the command completed successfully, I can try again if necessary
[09:40] <iflema> Jimi_Neutral gadmin-proftpd what ya looking for...
[09:40] <AbortD> gui
[09:40] <llutz> shazbotmcnasty: win7? then tell it Tru7h ;)
[09:40] <Tru7h> theadmin: I'll let you know once I'm in an OS
[09:40] <Josh90> I am currently using a pidgin screenlet. but I still have the pidgin window that keeps coming up too. I was wondering if there was a way to open pidgin with no window so it just uses the screenlet.
[09:40] <Jimi_Neutral> iflema, he wants to grant one person access to the FTP but to one folder only and cause there is a nice little tool that does that in windows he thinks it is that easy in linux....i have proftpd installed i just needa graphical front end
[09:41] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, does that have a GUI
[09:41] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: Or what iflema said, probably is better, as I said, I never have used that package.
[09:41] <shazbotmcnasty> llutz, excuse?
[09:41] <Jimi_Neutral> iflema, does that have a GUI?
[09:41] <theadmin> GUI, GUI.... why the heck nobody likes the CLI? It's usually a lot faster :/
[09:41] <AbortD> Josh90, how did you install the screenlet?
[09:41] <Tru7h> Honestly, if Wine had better support for my games and MS Office 2007, I would just kill Windows and do a fresh install of Ubuntu
[09:42] <iceroot> Tru7h: use openoffice
[09:42] <AbortD> Josh90, i will install it and see if i cant figure it out
[09:42] <llutz> shazbotmcnasty: did you add win7 to your grub? then tell it Tru7h hes trying to do that since hours ;)
[09:42] <Jimi_Neutral> theadmin, maybe so but what he wants he gets and i am no linux expert
[09:42] <ayam_jago> Tru7h: vbox :d
[09:42] <jae> theadmin: that's the new world order: we do everything in GUIs.  And we *require* it, and you won't even (easily) find out where we keep our info
[09:42] <theadmin> Jimi_Neutral: True indeed... Hm, my favorite FTP client is fireftp (and THAT has a GUI, infact it's a FF addon)
[09:42] <AbortD> Jimi_Neutral, what do you need a gui for?
[09:42]  * jae hates gconf with a passion
[09:42] <Tru7h> iceroot: I use it for most things, but I like the formula editor in Office 2007 (I use it frequently for my class notes) and I can't find a decent equivalent for Linux
[09:42] <llutz> theadmin: like you're using synaptic over apt-get/aptitude? ;)
[09:42] <shazbotmcnasty> --> bed tiem
[09:42] <iceroot> Tru7h: LaTeX
[09:43] <theadmin> llutz: I hate using Synaptic actually.
[09:43] <iceroot> Tru7h: that a REAL formulas
[09:43] <Take0n> thank you gottto it works :)
[09:43] <gottto> :)
[09:43] <Tru7h> iceroot: The thing is, I combine that formula editor with my custom keyboard layout, and I can't find a good layout editor for ubuntu
[09:43] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: Yes, gFTP _GTK also looks like a decent one.
[09:44] <Josh90> AbortD: I installed the program called Screenlets Manager if i think it was one of the default screenlets down the page
[09:44] <Tru7h> iceroot: Don't get me wrong, I use Ubuntu for almost everything, but for this as well as gaming I need Windows 7
[09:44] <Jimi_Neutral> ok to everyone that keeps aksing me the same question.....my boss wants me to give access to one user on the network to this ubuntu box....because he has a little tool in wondows that does that nicley he thinks it is that easy in windows, so therefor it is down to me to find an FTP server in ubuntu that is configurable with a GUI....and for the last time I NEED A GUI FTP ADMINISTRATOR TOOL NOT AN FTP CLIENT....sorry but i go
[09:44] <Jimi_Neutral> t him on my back and im getting stressed as hell here
[09:44] <theadmin> llutz: apt-get FTW! It even has super cow powers!
[09:44] <iceroot> !shortcuts | Tru7h
[09:44] <Jimi_Neutral> but he can only have access to one fodler on that pc
[09:45] <Jimi_Neutral> because he can do that with his windows tool whatever its called
[09:45] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: Just found the DOCs for ProFTPd. add that d to it.
[09:45] <llutz> theadmin: may i remind you to your openoffice-removal ;)
[09:45] <theadmin> llutz: Well, couldn't... although i totally forgot about apt-cache
[09:45] <Tru7h> iceroot: Do keyboard shortcuts allow you to insert custom characters? I use MSKLC on Windows
[09:45] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, i know to add the d
[09:45] <Tru7h> And that still doesn't fix the lack of Wine support for my games :P I'm a fan of LAN
[09:45] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, but proftpd is not graphical......Gproftpd is but i cant find it.....that is the problem
[09:46] <iflema> Jimi_Neutral gadmin-proftpd faily straight foward.... alot of settings you will not use, but i think youll find the few thaqt need setting
[09:46] <iceroot> Tru7h: hm, i dont know, dont using shortcuts on keyboarsd like that
[09:46] <rocket16> Ahh, the user named MarkProffitt, is a great person! I checked it out on web!
[09:46]  * jae thinks that someone should, and sooner or later someone probably will (if it hasn't happened already) do a GNU/Linux dist that has all that autoconfig (avahi, *hurl*) crap ripped out
[09:46] <Jimi_Neutral> iflema, and that is grpahical yea?
[09:46] <elena12> In Ubuntu 10.04 Beta Netbook Edition, I can't unlock the gnome panel, the options are greyed out.
[09:46] <theadmin> Mark?... eek. Whenever i hear that i think of mr. Shuttleworth
[09:46] <darksee> hello from russia
[09:46] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: In Synaptic there are like 10 packages of that, pick the one that you and the others are use to, and fetch it.
[09:46] <iflema> Jimi_Neutral yes sir
[09:46] <Jimi_Neutral> iflema, ty bud
[09:46] <jae> Or at least reduce its influence a lot
[09:47] <Tru7h> My layout is extremely custom, and though I've looked for a decent layout creator on Ubuntu I haven't found one
[09:47] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, ty for your help bro
[09:47] <haavaros> I'm using gnome terminal to ssh to a server where im running irssi, and when I try to press alt-t for the 14th window, gnome-terminal doesn't send this to irssi, but instead opens its own menu. Any fix?
[09:47] <AbortD> Josh90, what was your exact problem again
[09:47] <AbortD> i have it working for me
[09:47] <iceroot> haavaros: disable the gnome-terminal menu
[09:47] <Anvoid> my Internet doesn't work. weird thing is, connection works fine for everything except browsing the Internet. when i restart the router, it works again. is this hardware issue?
[09:47] <Tru7h> iceroot: And by "extremely custom" I mean it's a modified Svorak layout which includes more Greek letters than the normal one (for my physics labs)
[09:47] <iceroot> haavaros: change the shortcuts in the gnome-terminal menue or use /win 14
[09:47] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: Np, I am going to fetch that now and play with it, so thank you!
[09:47] <elena12> In Ubuntu 10.04 Beta Netbook Edition, I can't unlock the gnome panel, the options are greyed out. What can I do to edit the gnome panel??
[09:48] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo,  lol nice nice
[09:48] <iceroot> Tru7h: have a look at LaTeX :)
[09:48] <jae> Serious question now: is it correct that to set nodeadkeys one has to edit some udev rules/files?  That would be *really* idiotic.
[09:48] <iceroot> Tru7h: its perfect for the math-stuff
[09:48] <iceroot> elena12: /join #ubuntu+1
[09:48] <rocket16> theadmin: Lol, no he is MArkProffitt, here is the info http://markproffitt.com/about/
[09:48] <Jimi_Neutral> ok one more thing...how would i remove the server that is already on there.....i had vsftp
[09:48] <Josh90> AbortD: when i open pidgin I would like it to just open up in the screenlet. not to have the window in the menu bar down the bottom
[09:48] <elena12> ty iceroot
[09:48] <haavaros> iceroot: Ah, thx. Embarrasing that I didn't see that myself :P
[09:48] <Tru7h> york105: Still got that BOOTMGR error, I'm about ready to give up and pack 'er in though, I have class in a few hours and I need some rest
[09:49] <Jimi_Neutral> basically so i know vsftpd is removed and proftpd is working
[09:49] <user__> anyone know how to enable restricted drivers via terminal on ubuntu server?
[09:49] <AbortD> Josh90, are you running kde or gnome?
[09:49] <Josh90> AbortD: at the monent it open's if both places but i would like it just to open in the screen let
[09:49] <jrib> user__: isntall them, use them in xorg.conf
[09:49] <cyber-life> j
[09:49] <Josh90> AbortD: gnome
[09:49] <Tru7h> iceroot: I use LaTeX, in fact it's supported in MS Word 2007 and I make frequent use of it in there and elsewhere, but it's just not sufficient for what I'm doing
[09:49]  * jae leaves the room to scream a little... (dampened by door)AAAAARRRRRRGHH
[09:50] <iflema> Jimi_Neutral one way is all at once remove/install new in synaptic package manager
[09:50] <AbortD> both have to be open the screenlet runs off of the info it gives but how i have my pidgin setup its in my letter icon top right
[09:50] <AbortD> so i dont see it
[09:50] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: That is a simple thing, you can use the GUI thing, Software Center or go bully and use the /force, Terminal,
[09:50] <AbortD> you will be stuck with some kind of icon
[09:50] <Tru7h> iceroot: If I have to use LaTeX code to format everything I'll fall behind my prof in class
[09:50] <iceroot> Tru7h: ah ok
[09:50] <Josh90> AbortD: That sounds alright
[09:51] <Tru7h> iceroot: Trust me, though, as soon as I find a decent custom keyboard layout creator for Linux I'll be abandoning all this Windows nonsense and fresh installing Ubuntu
[09:51] <AbortD> so are you trying to keep it out of the bottom panel or top?
[09:51] <york105> Tru7h, try workin on it later, any how simply put the bootmgr basically refers the 'bit' that the system trasnfers command to once level 1 boot loader is done
[09:52] <Josh90> AbortD: I was hoping both. But i might not be able to
[09:52] <Jimi_Neutral> hmm ok i obviously wasnt using vftp cause i can still access the box from this laptop lol
[09:52] <Tru7h> york105: That makes sense, thanks so much for your help even if we didn't get everything working, I really appreciated it
[09:52] <Jimi_Neutral> my god i am n ow so confused
[09:52] <Tru7h> For now I'll just expand my Windows partition and go back to using Wubi
[09:52] <AbortD> Josh90, you can stop it in the bottom but not top you could hide it in the envelope though
[09:53] <york105> Tru7h, no worries ;) i'll be hanging around here so will resume debugging if you come back
[09:53] <theadmin> rocket16: Yeah, Shuttleworth is known online as "sabdfl"
[09:53] <Josh90> AbortD: i not to sure how to do that one.
[09:53] <haavaros> I'm looking for a way to make column width in compact view (gnome) dynamic ... is this possible? Or at least increasing the fixed width
[09:53] <rocket16> theadmin: Great!
[09:53] <york105> Tru7h, out of sheet curiosity why use WUBI?
[09:53] <Tru7h> york105: Sounds good, though it won't be until later today, I need at least a couple hours of sleep :P
[09:53] <Tru7h> york105: Thanks again, take care and have a good night
[09:54] <AbortD> i would have to see a screen of your upper right screen to help you honestly
[09:54] <Tru7h> york105: I'll use Wubi because it works.
[09:54] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: That is the fun part.
[09:54] <Tru7h> york105: I know it's known for compatability issues but in my case, it's what I had running before and I only started having issues when I tried installing Ubuntu to a real partition
[09:54] <york105> Tru7h, why not try a clean install, I mean installing Ubuntu is not rocket science, its kinda straight forward
[09:55] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, it would be fun if it was a hobby and i didnt have my boss breathing down my neck
[09:55] <Tru7h> york105: I have done so. I clean installed Ubuntu and then put Windows on after, but Ubuntu has failed in every case to recognize Windows.
[09:55] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, i dont remeber installing any other ftp servers
[09:55] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, obviously i cant set this proftp up until i have removed the other one right
[09:55] <Josh90>  AbortD:   ar   i see.
[09:55] <york105> Tru7h, :D sure Ubuntu will fail, as I said the general practice is to install Windows first and then put Ubuntu on your machine later
[09:56] <s7> He Everyone, am having issues with my mic while using skype on ubuntu 9.04. Plz help guide me on how to fix it.
[09:56] <Tru7h> york105: I tried that as well, I had deleted Wubi (leaving only Windows on my machine) and then used a Karmic CD to install Ubuntu, and I ran into the same issue of GRUB not seeing Win7
[09:57] <edakiri> s7: are you interested in help setting up skype alternatives?
[09:57] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: After you crunch the numbers and look at the savings, actually no, forget the other OS that you worked with, we have stepped out of the Windows now, you can leave it or remove, really does not matter.
[09:57] <york105> Tru7h, whenever you're ready we'll resume this one
[09:57] <Tru7h> york105: As of yet the only thing I've ever gotten to work properly on this machine is Wubi, so I'm going back to it for now
[09:57] <theadmin> By the way, if GRUB overwrites the windows bootloader, HOW windows manages to boot? :/
[09:57] <yusuf> hi , i've problem with virtaulbox look > "Please install the virtualbox-ose-dkms package and execute 'modprobe vboxdrv' as root."
[09:57] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, i would porefe to remove
[09:57] <maginot> theadmin, grub loads it
[09:57] <DJones> theadmin: Grub add's an entry for windows in its own boot loader
[09:58] <york105> theadmin, Grub never over writes its encapsulates itself over windows boot
[09:58] <Tru7h> york105: That sounds excellent, I feel bad for bailing but I'm honestly falling out of my chair, will you be around tonight?
[09:58] <theadmin> As far as i understand, actually, Windows installs it's bootloader (ntldr) onto the system drive and "links" it to MBR...
[09:58] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: I understand, took me a while to get used to that also.
[09:58] <york105> Tru7h, I am here all day its breakfast time here in london, will be here all after noon
[09:59] <yusuf> stall the virtualbox-ose-dkms package and execute 'modprobe vboxdrv' as root." problem with virutal box please help please
[09:59] <Tru7h> york105: I'll be back once I'm awake in that case, but for now I'm headed off. Thanks again; take care!
[09:59] <york105> Tru7h, catch ya  later mate
[09:59] <zykes-> anyone here know if virt-manager 0.8.3 has been backported ?
[09:59] <theadmin> yusuf: Uhm, dude, just do what it says to do. Type this in the terminal: "sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-dkms && sudo modprobe vboxdrv"
[09:59] <haavaros> I've failed to work out how to change column width in compact view in gnome (ubuntu 9.10). I'd really appreciate a point in the right direction!
[10:00] <s7> edakiri, no but want to be guided on how to make my mic work in skype
[10:00] <haavaros> *pointer
[10:00] <yusuf> theadmin thanks gonna try ^__^
[10:01]  * york105 scurries away to the kitchen hoping to raid the fridge
[10:02] <dabukalam> hi all, i've been trying to get drupal to work on a jaunty server, but I keep hitting this error while trying to install mysql-server-5.0:  /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-5.0_5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.3_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:02] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, ok i dont have any ftp servers installed now but i can still access the box thru my ftp client on another machine!
[10:03] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: Welcome to Linux.
[10:03] <yusuf> theadmin look at this :( http://pastebin.com/82pVqXwa
[10:03] <theadmin> yusuf: ...the hell? Try doing "sudo apt-get install dkms && sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup"
[10:04] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, try a restart
[10:04] <yusuf> theadmin :( http://pastebin.com/rPGJ0ju5
[10:05] <theadmin> yusuf: Bleh. OSE seems to be a lot different then regular virtualbox
[10:05] <Jimi_Neutral> is there a way i can find out what FTP server is running on my box?
[10:05] <yusuf> theadmin is virtaulbox with out ose good ?
[10:06] <theadmin> yusuf: Yeah, it's even better. Except that it's closed-source but it doesn't really matter. To download it, go to virtualbox.org
[10:06] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: sudo lsof -i :21             take the pid
[10:06] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: ps <pid>
[10:06] <theadmin> llutz: What the? Isn't "lsof" meaning "LiSt Open Files"?
[10:07] <llutz> theadmin: man lsof
[10:07] <yusuf> theadmin thanks man ,, god bless you ^__^
[10:07] <llutz> theadmin: unix ~ "all is a file"
[10:07] <guest> Hi all
[10:07] <llutz> somehow
[10:07] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, 1793
[10:07] <dabukalam> hi guest
[10:07] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: ps <pid>
[10:07] <guest> can someone help me my ubuntu wont boot !
[10:08] <guest> im currently using the live cd
[10:08] <theadmin> llutz: ...uh... even a directory? even... *gasp* GCONF?
[10:08] <guest> i'd be really grateful guys
[10:08] <llutz> theadmin: even a dir
[10:08] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, /usr/sbin/inetd
[10:08] <the_checker> hallo
[10:08] <theadmin> llutz: That's outright confusing
[10:09] <Vigo> guest: LiveCD , is boot order set up?
[10:09] <llutz> theadmin: you'll learn
[10:09] <ne0h> what doesn't want to boot? the live-cd?
[10:09] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, ah actually now i have restarted i dont seem to be able to connect with my iwndows ftp client anymore
[10:09] <ne0h> do you have an error?
[10:09] <guest> no my actual machine wont boot
[10:10] <dabukalam> guest, won't boot, isn't reallya diagnosis
[10:10] <ne0h> grub error?
[10:10] <jakewc2> Hi Does anybody have any experience3 with Thunderbird 3.x?
[10:10] <guest> errm yes /proc/mountinfo no file found
[10:10] <dabukalam> gues, what does it do upon turning on exactly
[10:11] <Eddie_6> jakewc2: Yes, some. But I don't have installed at the moment though, so dunno if I can help...
[10:11] <jakewc2> I upgraded to TB3. a couple of days ago, most of it went welll, but I have a problem with urls, I click on them and they bring up a choose application box.
[10:11] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: Look at and bookmark this page, if you wish to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community
[10:11] <theadmin> Why can't i export/import settings in networkmanager-applet or whatever it is
[10:11] <Jimi_Neutral> Vigo, ty
[10:12] <Vigo> Jimi_Neutral: Np
[10:12] <jakewc2> there is nothing in the box to choose from
[10:12] <jakewc2> so I cannot access a url unless I copy and paste
[10:12] <jakewc2> has anybody come across this before?
[10:12] <theadmin> Error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/401069/
[10:13] <gsleeper> jj
[10:13] <jae> So... managed to set nodeadkeys with the keyboard preferences.  But... where the hell is that *stored*?  GConf, again?
[10:13] <dabukalam> hi all, i've been trying to get drupal to work on a jaunty server, but I keep hitting this error while trying to install mysql-server-5.0:  /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-5.0_5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.3_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:13] <jrib> jae: why does it matter?
[10:14] <jae> I hate having to rely on GUIs, that's why
[10:14] <theadmin> dabukalam: Could you try sudo apt-get -f install?
[10:14]  * jae is *ooold* (school)
[10:14] <jakewc2> oh, Rddie_6....sorry didnt see your post there, dont touch type, and takes a while to type and your post went up the page
[10:14] <dabukalam> theadmin, i did, over and over
[10:14] <dabukalam> theadmin, and over...
[10:14] <dabukalam> theadmin, i purged mysql and re-installed everything
[10:15] <theadmin> dabukalam: Hm. I had no problem installing LAMP on jaunty
[10:16] <Spilak> hi
[10:16] <Spilak> do you use ubuntu one?
[10:16] <dabukalam> theadmin, how can i start over completely? I can't re-install, that's not an option, but I want to get rid of any traces of the packages, and start again as if it was fresh
[10:16] <dabukalam> theadmin, purging them just doesn't seem to cut it
[10:16] <theadmin> dabukalam: Hm... No idea.
[10:17] <Spilak> my ubuntu one is bad
[10:17] <Spilak> not syncron?
[10:17] <Spilak> why?
[10:17] <madjoe> is it possible to make a shortcut (link) to a directory to behave like in Windows? once I open that shortcut, my path should be within that (original) directory.
[10:18] <jrib> madjoe: just use a symlink
[10:18] <guest> Hello all sorry im back
[10:18] <madjoe> jrib: any special flags I should use?
[10:18] <Gnea> madjoe: there are symbolic links, but it's not like windows where it's just a file, it's an actual link, so you're pwd would reflect either location
[10:18] <theadmin> madjoe: Just kinda like "ln -s originalfile linkname"
[10:18] <jakewc2> does anybody have any ideas please?
[10:18] <jrib> madjoe: no, ln -s TARGET NAME.  Or just rigth click -> create symlink (or whatever it says)
[10:19] <kanervr> kugf
[10:19] <theadmin> jrib: "make link"
[10:19] <jrib> theadmin: thank you
[10:19] <jrib> !helpme | jakewc2
[10:20] <madjoe> theadmin, jrib, Gnea: I already used "ln -s" but when I "cd linkname", my pwd will be "linkname", not "myoriginaldirname"
[10:20] <jrib> madjoe: so?
[10:20] <kanervr> Hello g0bl1n, welcome to #ubuntu
[10:20] <madjoe> jrib: it would be much easier to be able to navigate with "cd .." within my original dirname...
[10:20] <s7> hi, can u guide me how to fix the fault on my mic when using skype in ubuntu 9.04
[10:21] <theadmin> jrib: Oh. I got it. He want's the link to be something like... say, link is /home/link and origininal directory is /root/somedir/. So when he cd's into /home/link/stuff he wants it to actually be /root/somedir/stuff in $PWD
[10:21] <madjoe> theadmin: exactly
[10:22] <prodigel> hi all. I want to change X color depth but I can't find xorg.conf in 9.10 anymore.
[10:22] <madjoe> theadmin: is it something like hardlink, not soft lnk?
[10:22] <prodigel> Can I generate it somehow/
[10:22] <prodigel> ?
[10:22] <Gnea> madjoe: try it?
[10:22] <Vigo> s7: Do you have all the drivers installed?
[10:22] <s7> yes, i have all drivers installed
[10:23] <theadmin> madjoe: No such think as "soft link", there are hard and symbolic ones. I think you need a hard one, so, omit "-s" in ln.
[10:23] <theadmin> madjoe: Just "ln target linkname"
[10:23]  * g0bl1n finds Lynx absolutely awesome ! And much faster then 9.10
[10:23] <madjoe> theadmin: yes, symbolic... I call it soft :) lol
[10:24] <Jimi_Neutral> ok i have installed gadmin-proftpd and i have set up the server...now i am trying to add a user but it is saying that user does not exist
[10:24] <madjoe> theadmin: ln: `xxx': hard link not allowed for directory
[10:24] <theadmin> madjoe: huh... weird. No idea actually.
[10:24]  * theadmin goes reading "man ln"
[10:24] <jrib> madjoe: you probably just want to use an alias, I don't see your use case
[10:24] <madjoe> Gnea: yes, I've tried it, but it won't work
[10:25] <theadmin> ...no idea. It seems hardlinks are not allowed for directories :/
[10:25] <lao5> hello
[10:26] <pooki> help with ubuntu
[10:26] <theadmin> pooki: What's the problem?
[10:26] <lao5> how to make u key linux system
[10:26] <pooki> ubuntu work but no internet
[10:26] <madjoe> jrib: no, not an alias.. my use case would be something like this: when I'm located in my ~/Downloads, I'd like to be able to quickly move files to different locations, such as "/var/www/home/sites/all/themes/mytheme/images"
[10:26] <theadmin> lao5: huh
[10:26] <lao5> i want a system that can boot from u key
[10:27] <theadmin> pooki: How do you connect? Wired/wireless/VPN/DSL?
[10:27] <pooki> wireless
[10:27] <theadmin> lao5: Ah, USB key?!
[10:27] <jrib> madjoe: what's wrong with using a symlink in that case?
[10:27] <lao5> theadmin: yes. usb key
[10:27] <Gnea> !usb | lao5
[10:27] <theadmin> lao5: lol ukey... Use usb-creator-gtk
[10:27] <lao5> theadmin: :-D
[10:28] <lao5> Gnea: :)
[10:28] <jrib> madjoe: or just store the long path in some variable and then do mv whatever_file $my_long_path
[10:28] <madjoe> jrib: I'd use links for that - like "mv filename linkname", but when I "cd linkname", I'm not able to navigate throught my "/var/www" path with "cd .." - maybe I should use both... alias AND links... hmmm.. but it's just weird
[10:28] <lao5> theadmin: :-D
[10:29] <athlon> Hi there! i just installed PureDyne (ubuntu based distr). I cant change my console font size. Any sugests?
[10:29] <pooki> ubuntu work but no internet...how to make it work
[10:29] <madjoe> pooki, to connect to it?
[10:29] <pooki> or I have to have wired connection?
[10:29] <Gnea> pooki: can't tell you ifyou don't tell us anything about how the connection is supposed to work
[10:30] <Jimi_Neutral> anyone know how i can configure gadmin-proftpd to allow users....i keep getting an error saying user cannot be found when i try to add one
[10:30] <jrib> madjoe: well I think in zsh you can have cd aliases, but really I think your solution is to just save the path in some short variable...
[10:30] <theadmin> pooki: Try configuring the connection manually.
[10:30] <Eddie_6> pooki: have youn installed the appropriate driver for your wireless card?
[10:30] <theadmin> pooki: Right click the networkmanager icon, hit "Edit connections", go to "Wireless", hit "add"...
[10:30] <pooki> connection is wireless...how to install driver
[10:30] <Gnea> !wifi | pooki
[10:31] <madjoe> jrib: well, that's not such an improvement comparing with symlinks... or am I missing something big here?
[10:31] <trom09> Hi everyone, Is there an easy way to mount and autoplay an iso dvd image from network share using vlc or other media player
[10:31] <iflema>
[10:31] <jrib> madjoe: why not?  cd $my_path, mv whatever_file $my_path
[10:31] <theadmin> jrib: Well, that works for me... I have /var/www in a variable $htdocs
[10:31] <jrib> madjoe: you could ask #bash if there's a better way
[10:31] <madjoe> jrib: oh, cd $my_path WILL work as I expect! right!
[10:32] <theadmin> trom09: To mount an iso, use "mount -o loop isofile directory"
[10:34] <pooki> how to install wifi driver in ubuntu
[10:35] <digii> lspci and check what wifi card u have
[10:35] <theadmin> pooki: Sigh, details, details! Give us the card name at least.
[10:35] <pooki> theadmin: the wifi is built onto mobo
[10:35] <Jimi_Neutral> anyone know how i can configure gadmin-proftpd to allow users....i keep getting an error saying user cannot be found when i try to add one
[10:35] <theadmin> pooki: What the heck is mobo
[10:36] <g_> hi, how do i see a log of the times ubuntu booted up?
[10:36] <pooki> motherboard = mobo
[10:36] <digii> theadmin: thinks he mean motherboard
[10:37] <Beha-san> ubuntu 9.10 when connecting via ssh to 2 my server on control Vlan and running mc in terminal it hangs up! ssh to other servers and mc on term works fine O.o
[10:37] <sporedi> how do i setup a remote desktop where i should autologin to ubuntu it should not ask/prompt me to click on refuse or allow
[10:38] <Beha-san> the only thing it shows - a hint string on the botton of the screen
[10:38] <Beha-san> *bottom
[10:39] <theadmin> Beha-san: Try submitting a bug report, cause it sounds like a bug to me
[10:39] <guest> Hi guys, i really need some help with my ubuntu, as it wont boot. It says /proc busy
[10:39] <pooki> which distro comes with wifi drivers?
[10:40] <Beha-san> theadmin, the thing is that from my netbook every thing is ok ((
[10:40] <theadmin> Huh. What the? What does Ctrl+D in a terminal do? o_O It closes it for me
[10:40] <guest> guys ?
[10:40] <guest> :(
[10:40]  * switchgirl wants to download and use all rhythmbox plugins but hasn't got the time to work out why or how to use GIT repositories
[10:40] <erUSUL> theadmin: it sends EOF
[10:41] <Gnea> !ask | guest
[10:41] <theadmin> erUSUL: ...Sorry, EOF? I'm not in a shellscript or something?
[10:41] <Beha-san> the same thing is with 2 routers that reside on control vlan...
[10:41] <Vroomfondle> to be fair, he did ask his question
[10:41] <xangua> switchgirl: what plugins¿
[10:41] <erUSUL> theadmin: End Of Line
[10:41] <Vroomfondle> but presumably no-one knows the answer
[10:41] <guest> okay sorry :>
[10:41] <erUSUL> theadmin: End Of File
[10:41] <switchgirl> guest not all guys :) tehe
[10:41] <guest> soooorrry
[10:41] <guest> :P
[10:41] <erUSUL> theadmin: and yes it exits many editors and the shell
[10:41] <theadmin> erUSUL: So, basically, it seems to log out of the terminal session, right?
[10:41] <Beha-san> theadmin, it also logs you out
[10:41] <pooki> did anyone get wifi working in ubuntu
[10:42] <switchgirl> xangua: all the 3rd party one's
[10:42] <erUSUL> theadmin: is the same you get if you do exit or logout
[10:42] <guest> anyone have any ideas why my machine wont boot ? I get an error saying /proc is busy
[10:42] <switchgirl> is there a ppa with them all in ?
[10:42] <Gnea> pooki: just explain the problem you're having, please, in detail
[10:42] <trom09> pooki, did you do what everyone suggested?
[10:42] <theadmin> guest: Stop repeating every 5 seconds. Repeat once in twenty minutes or so, and post on teh forumz
[10:42] <xangua> switchgirl: you can try 'getdeb' to get the latest rhythmbox in karmic; for the plugins i don't know witch are you refering to
[10:43] <xangua> !google getdeb
[10:43] <guest> sorry theadmin, just nobody replied
[10:43] <guest> :(
[10:43] <guest> bad times
[10:43] <switchgirl> guest try pressing esc repeatedly when rebooting and then you will be presented with a brlue/red screen (not the bios) try using the arrow keys to select fix
[10:43] <madjoe> theadmin, jrib, Gnea: well, if you want to learn something, I've found the solution: echo $'#!/bin/bash\ncd "wanted dir"; exec bash' >shortcut.lnk; chmod +x shortcut.lnk; ./shortcut.lnk
[10:43] <pooki> Gnea: I installed Ubuntu but the internet is not working. Presumably the wifi is not being recognized. I've played aroung with network manager but it doesn't make it work.
[10:43] <theadmin> madjoe: o_O
[10:43] <jrib> madjoe: that doesn't do what you want...
[10:44] <guest> wont pressing etc during boot take me to the kernel selection screen switchgirl ?
[10:44] <Gnea> guest: try booting it without the 'quiet splash' flags on
[10:44] <madjoe> jrib: I've been suggested on #bash
[10:44] <guest> ahh okay gnea, whys that ?
[10:44] <switchgirl> yes thats what you want
[10:44] <Gnea> guest: so we can help you fix the problem?
[10:44] <guest> oh
[10:44] <Gnea> ::
[10:44] <flikker123> suck my dick lady
[10:44] <Gnea> :P
[10:44] <switchgirl> xangua: http://live.gnome.org/RhythmboxPlugins/ThirdParty
[10:44] <jrib> madjoe: I understand, but you can't use that to move files, and you can't use it with cd.  It's about the same as having an alias
[10:44] <guest> but what willit do ?
[10:44] <mikekelly> is there a reason that apache2 would keep redirecting requests to localhost when I've setup new entries in /etc/hosts ?
[10:45] <mikekelly> is that a default setting?
[10:45] <guest> i'll come back and i'll go away and try your suggestions
[10:45] <guest> thanks guys and gals
[10:46] <Gnea> pooki: are you familiar with pastebin?
[10:46] <madjoe> jrib: yes, I just tested it... bummer.
[10:46] <switchgirl> Gnea: yeah
[10:46] <Gnea> guest: sometimes you just have to try it to see what it will do
[10:46] <pooki> Gnea: Yes.
[10:46] <Gnea> switchgirl: ?
[10:46] <switchgirl> Gnea: live cd me thinks
[10:47] <switchgirl> tab fail
[10:47] <Gnea> oh lol
[10:47] <pooki> if internet doesnt work what to do and how to things in ubuntu?
[10:47] <theadmin> ...the hell? Openoffice types in all caps while caps-lock is off
[10:48] <Gnea> pooki: can you plug an ethernet cord into it for now?
[10:48] <Gnea> theadmin: you've been paperclipped?
[10:48] <pooki> that is prob I can't
[10:48] <theadmin> Gnea: What?
[10:49] <Gnea> theadmin: joke.
[10:49] <Gnea> haven't had that happen before
[10:49] <pooki> but tell me what I can do with net connection to make wifi work
[10:49] <theadmin> seems like some font problem... hm...
[10:49] <Gnea> pooki: why can't you?
[10:49] <Gnea> who doesn't keep spare ethernet around?
[10:50] <AbortD> pooki, whats your wifi card
[10:50] <pooki> computer in another room, ethernet in another.
[10:50] <theadmin> Gnea: Those people who don't have one.
[10:50] <Gnea> pooki: so take it to the other room?
[10:50] <AbortD> only choice
[10:50] <pooki> Gnea: what's the point of wifi then? defeats the entire point.
[10:50] <theadmin> Ugh. Too many messages, my head starts to hurt o_O
[10:50] <AbortD> no it doesnt
[10:50] <AbortD> pooki, you need the package to fix it
[10:51] <AbortD> and that package is in the repos
[10:51] <AbortD> and you have to download that package
[10:51] <Gnea> pooki: you miss the point: sometimes you need ethernet to get wireless to work.
[10:51] <pooki> which package? if its solution then it might be worth the effort.
[10:51] <Gnea> pooki: I suggested it in order to help you get wireless working faster.
[10:51] <Gnea> but, you seem to want to take longer
[10:52] <AbortD> karmic generic packages
[10:52] <indus> hi guys
[10:53] <pooki> i install ubuntu thru wubi
[10:53] <n1b> sometimes on startup my mouse pointer is jerky when i move it. i have to reboot to solve it, any insight people?
[10:54] <Gnea> pooki: alright, so wireless works fine in windows then, right?
[10:54] <pooki> yes
[10:54] <Gnea> pooki: when you are booted into ubuntu, are you able to read/write to your windows filesystem?
[10:55] <pooki> Gnea: Yes
[10:55] <indus> anyone know why a cpu fan runs too fast?
[10:55] <trinikrono> n1b: buy a new mouse?
[10:56] <Gnea> pooki: good. what you'll need to do then is gather some information from within ubuntu, transfer it to the windows side of the system, reboot to windows and then export the information to pastebin. make sense so far?
[10:56] <jasonmchristos> if i seperate my home partition from root how much space should i allocate for the root filesystem to adequatly hold ubuntu on my laptop
[10:56] <pooki> Gnea: Yes.
[10:57] <Gnea> pooki: one moment...
[10:57] <kubanc> hellow. Every time i would like to burn image with k3b program and i try verify written data, i get warning that data on CD is different then the data in image. here are my messages that i get from k3b http://pastebin.com/qFQrTDEy
[10:57] <n1b> trinikrono: its a labtop
[10:57] <jasonmchristos> kubanc: reburn it
[10:57] <trinikrono> n1b: try a usb mouse
[10:57] <trinikrono> see if its the pointer itself
[10:58] <Gnea> pooki: btw, is the wireless built into the system or is it a card you plug in?
[10:58] <pooki> wifi is built into mobo
[10:58] <Gnea> ok
[10:58] <n1b> trinikrono: have one tried it .! no luck!
[10:58] <kubanc> jasonmchristos, what do you mean to say. isn't this CD now useful, because i already written data to it. I also tried it already on 10 CD and no one was with success
[10:59] <trinikrono> n1b: does the keyboard do weird things also
[10:59] <trinikrono> when the mouse is not working
[10:59] <Gnea> pooki: run these commands in a terminal, please:  lspci > myhwinfo.txt && iwconfig >> myhwinfo.txt && dmesg >> myhwinfo.txt
[11:00] <c4rp3nt3r> id
[11:00] <Jimi_Neutral> anyone know how i can configure gadmin-proftpd to allow users....i keep getting an error saying user cannot be found when i try to add one
[11:00] <guest_007> Hi all, I'm having trouble with my machine, it won't boot. I get an error saying "mountall: /proc unable to mount device or resource busy". Is anyone able to help me with this please ?
[11:00] <jasonmchristos> if it works fine kubanc but apparentty its burning something a bit different
[11:00] <n1b> trinikrono: not noticed really as i give up and reboot quite early
[11:01] <kubanc> jasonmchristos, yes, i know that, but how can i determine what is wrong. i also tries brasero and k3b and nothing works. is there maybe a problem with buffer?
[11:01] <Gnea> pooki: when you have done that, copy myhwinfo.txt to the windows c:/ somewhere
[11:01] <pooki> wat to do after that..post it into pastebin?
[11:01] <duke_> hi i have tinyproxy installed want use it for all http connections that i can play poker in university
[11:01] <Gnea> pooki: yeah
[11:01] <duke_> someone knows which line i have o add in tinyproxy.conf im tottal noob
[11:01] <pooki> what to look for in the information?
[11:02] <dabukalam> I'm getting an error when installing mysql-server-5.0: "subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" anyone know what that is?
[11:02] <ikonia> duke_: we are not going to help you circumvent your uni's network policies
[11:02] <duke_> its in free time
[11:02] <Gnea> pooki: that's why you're putting it on pastebin, so I can help you figure that out
[11:02] <ikonia> duke_: it is still a uni policy to block access to it
[11:02] <guest_007> Hi all, I'm having trouble with my machine, it won't boot. I get an error saying "mountall: /proc unable to mount device or resource busy". Is anyone able to help me with this please ?
[11:02] <ikonia> duke_: we are not going to help you get around your school's security policy
[11:03] <jasonmchristos> kubanc: does the cd work?
[11:03] <duke_> wtf
[11:03] <izmanromli> dabukalam: which ubuntu version are you use?
[11:03] <ikonia> duke_: please control your language
[11:03] <c4rp3nt3r> hi
[11:03] <c4rp3nt3r> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~``
[11:03] <c4rp3nt3r> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~````
[11:03] <c4rp3nt3r> ``
[11:03] <c4rp3nt3r> `
[11:03] <FloodBot1> c4rp3nt3r: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:03] <c4rp3nt3r> `
[11:03] <c4rp3nt3r> `
[11:03] <Q_Continuum> nVidia graphics card (GeForce Go 7200) but GPL'd drivers don't support multi-display, running 9.10/64-bit - any ideas?
[11:03] <Gnea> duke_: wtf, indeed. why are you asking us to go against your school's policy?
[11:03] <ikonia> c4rp3nt3r: please don't flood the channel
[11:04] <Mowee> Bonjour ^^
[11:04] <duke_> its in free time
[11:04] <ikonia> duke_: the uni policy does not change with time, contact your uni network administrators for access
[11:04] <c4rp3nt3r> bye
[11:04] <Gnea> duke_: this is the Ubuntu help channel, we don't help with specific applications
[11:04] <kubanc> jasonmchristos, jes, reading  dvd/cd/rw/DL works normaly
[11:04] <guest_007> Hi all, I'm having trouble with my machine, it won't boot. I get an error saying "mountall: /proc unable to mount device or resource busy". Is anyone able to help me with this please ?
[11:04] <dabukalam> izmanromli: jaunty server
[11:05] <duke_> your evil
[11:05] <guest_007> i'd be very very grateful
[11:05] <Gnea> speak for yourself.
[11:05] <Jimi_Neutral> anyone know how i can configure gadmin-proftpd to allow users....i keep getting an error saying user cannot be found when i try to add one
[11:05] <ikonia> guest_007: can you boot into recovery mode ?
[11:05] <jasonmchristos> does the cd you burned work ? kubanc
[11:05] <guest_007> i havent tried that ikonia no
[11:06] <guest_007> can i fix it from there ?
[11:06] <izmanromli> dabukalam: did all mysql devel libs already installed?
[11:06] <ikonia> guest_007: that's a good first point of call, then look at the proc entry in /etc/fsta
[11:06] <ikonia> guest_007: /etc/fstab sorry
[11:06] <guest_007> okay im not really sure what im looking for though sorry
[11:06] <guest_007> what should it look like ?
[11:06] <kubanc> jasonmchristos, no, it doesn't work
[11:06] <guest_007> i can have a look at my fstab via the live cd i guess
[11:06] <ikonia> guest_007: get the line for /proc, and use a pastebin to show us
[11:07] <guest_007> okay
[11:07] <kubanc> jasonmchristos, i get CRC error
[11:07] <dabukalam> izmanromli: not sure let me check...
[11:07] <ikonia> guest_007: make sure it's the /etc/fstab from your hard disk, no the livecd
[11:07] <guest_007> okay ive found it
[11:08] <izmanromli> dabukalam: if things not worked out, try to update mysql packages
[11:08] <guest_007> shall i just paste it in here ikonia ?
[11:08] <ikonia> guest_007: use a pastebin please
[11:08] <Q_Continuum> Question: If I am not currently running the nVidia 'binary' drivers, what drivers AM I using?
[11:08] <guest_007> sorry im new to this, whats a pastebin ?
[11:08] <Gnea> !pastebin | guest_007
[11:08] <jasonmchristos> try burning it while booting from a live usb stick then you will know its something other than software, check to see if there is ant problems with that specific hardware ( plextor model number ) on a search engine, and try using a different batch of blank cd's it could be bad cd's, if it is not bad cd's and you find no problems listed with your hardware on a search engine then the burner is bad
[11:08] <jasonmchristos> kubanc:
[11:08] <ikonia> !pastebin | guest_007
[11:09] <jofo> Hello. I’ve got a color problem with some mp4 files: faces seem grey, blue water has a muddy color, etc. I encounter the same problem with Totem and VLC. In the file properties, I read Vidéo Codec : H.264 / AVC. Following Synaptic, the package paquet libx 264-67 (x264 video coding library) is installed (a green square besides its name). I have no idea about the way to solve that problem, except by reading those videos under Windows
[11:09] <jofo>  where they work correctly.
[11:10] <guest_007> okay ikonia... http://paste.ubuntu.com/401098/
[11:11] <ikonia> guest_007: can you paste the whole of your /etc/fstab please
[11:11] <guest_007> oh, sorry yeah sure
[11:11] <guest_007> here you go ikonia.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/401100/
[11:12] <kubanc> jasonmchristos, sorry, but your last message i did not understand... it says "kubanc" :S
[11:12] <ikonia> guest_007: move /proc to the last line
[11:12] <jofo> Does anybody have any idea about my color problem?
[11:12] <guest_007> the last line, what will that change ikonia ?
[11:13] <jasonmchristos> kubanc: try burning it while booting from a live usb stick then you will know its something other than software, check to see if there is ant problems with that specific hardware ( plextor model number ) on a search engine, and try using a different batch of blank cd's it could be bad cd's, if it is not bad cd's and you find no problems listed with your hardware on a search engine then the burner is bad
[11:13] <ikonia> guest_007: it will make /proc get mouinted after root
[11:13] <guest_007> ahh so will that fix it you think ?
[11:13] <ikonia> hope so
[11:14] <guest_007> okay brilliant thanks for your help
[11:14] <guest_007> i'll give it a try :)
[11:14] <arand> jofo: have a look at the clolour balance settings in totem, they might've become skewed.
[11:14] <sleepy_cat> can someone give me a community for Dot net
[11:15] <ikonia> SiegHard: no
[11:15] <ikonia> oop
[11:15] <ikonia> sleepy_cat: no, sorry
[11:15] <sleepy_cat> ? no i wanted to know whats the DOT net community for C#
[11:15] <leagris> jofo, I have the same problem ubuntu 64bit and nvidia gfx card
[11:16] <ikonia> sleepy_cat: and we can't help you find it in here - this is ubuntu support, not a yellow pages for freenode
[11:16] <gotttoI> sleepy_cat, try #windows
[11:16] <leagris> jofo, using the opengl output may solve the color issue
[11:16] <gotttoI> oops
[11:16] <emcxbuntu> hi i need help to get a routing from a xbuntu-over a karmic connectet via eth to the inet karmic has the wlan access!
[11:16] <yuurei> yoi
[11:16] <amigojapan> hi, how can I find where a package ended up after installing it with apt-get ?
[11:16] <erUSUL> !ics | emcxbuntu
[11:17] <erUSUL> amigojapan: dpkg -L packagename | less
[11:17] <amigojapan> thanx erUSUL
[11:17] <yuurei> you speek french
[11:17] <bazhang> yuurei, in #ubuntu-fr
[11:17] <yuurei> yes
[11:17] <emcxbuntu> ubottu: thanks i go and read that link
[11:17] <jofo> leagris: The opengl output? What’s that?
[11:17] <bazhang> yuurei, /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:18] <sleepy_cat> sorry ikonia
[11:18] <sleepy_cat> thanks gotttoI
[11:18] <gotttoI> k
[11:18] <yuurei> i m french
[11:18] <bazhang> yuurei, ubuntu support question?
[11:19] <yuurei> ubuntu 10
[11:20] <jkd4> !fr | yuurei
[11:20] <bazhang> yuurei, #ubuntu+1 for 10.04 support , if that is what you mean by Ubuntu 10
[11:20] <yuurei> super merci
[11:20] <leagris> jofo, in vlc go to menu Tools/Preferences. Select Video icon on the left, and on Display groupe at Ooutput field, select Opengl video output instead of X11 video output
[11:20] <ayam_jago> oui
[11:21] <ayam_jago> !ping
[11:21] <znh> !ping
[11:21] <leagris> jofo, the save, quit vlc and try again with the video causing color swap
[11:21] <znh> ayam_jago, seems ubottu ignores me to death
[11:22] <gotttoI> znh, he gets bored easy
[11:22] <znh> I see
[11:22] <leagris> jofo, my guess are some codecs/nvidia X video are buggy in ubuntu64 and as nvidia is proprietary binary blob, no one will really care to fix it.
[11:23] <ayam_jago> i use NVidia Fx5500 on Ubuntu32
[11:24] <maciejb> hey. does anyone know if there is a way to freeze the view in top (the task viewer?). many thanks for help in advance
[11:25] <gotttoI> maciejb: q will do it
[11:26] <abhi_nav> gotttoI what is 'q'?
[11:26] <gotttoI> abhi_nav: the   "q"   button
[11:26] <maciejb> gotttoI, true. that's a solution.
[11:26] <abhi_nav> gotttoI you people are talking about what? where is q button?
[11:27] <gotttoI> hehe
[11:27] <leagris> abhi_nav, q is an omnipotent proto god creature wandering space and annoying Picard and Janeway with is infantile powers ;d
[11:27] <jofo> leagris: Now, the colors are better, but the image is choppy.
[11:27] <abhi_nav> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[11:27] <abhi_nav> ?
[11:27] <abhi_nav> leagris: :D
[11:29] <osiride> ?list
[11:29] <osiride> list
[11:29] <leagris> abhi_nav, seriously, hitting q in top will leave and show latest top status
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> q - works in a great manyh programs that work like top also.
[11:30] <Jimi_Neutral> does anyon here use gadmin-proftpd???
[11:31] <dabukalam> I'm getting an error when installing mysql-server-5.0: "subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" anyone know what that is?
[11:31] <abhi_nav> leagris: btu on top of what?
[11:31] <abhi_nav> but*
[11:31] <jofo> leagris: I tried with another video output (X11) and now that’s perfect. Thanks for the help.
[11:31] <bazhang> abhi_nav, top in terminal
[11:32] <switchgirl> umm WOW youtube is down
[11:32] <switchgirl> It's not just you!  http://www.youtube.com  looks down from here.
[11:33] <bazhang> !ot > switchgirl
[11:33] <switchgirl> i thought it was a bug with ubuntu
[11:33] <pooki> lol youtube is down!
[11:33] <abhi_nav> m back
[11:33] <abhi_nav> :D
[11:34] <leagris> [ot] pooki, end of the world :d
[11:36] <pooki> Youtube is up again!
[11:37] <bazhang> pooki, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:37] <znh> no not anymore youre not
[11:37] <pooki> yes its down...but the homepage opened for me.
[11:38] <pooki> ok bazhang
[11:42] <scibotic> I've run into the most bizarre problem, I get permission denied when ever I try to modify any files in my home directory.
[11:42] <scibotic> But ls -l shows that the owner is set to my user, and that I should have write access.
[11:43] <gottto> scibotic: try   ls -la   in a terminal to see who owns the files
[11:43] <zamba> can someone tell me how to practically use the 'at' command?
[11:44] <zamba> i see it needs a script, but if i just want to do issue a simple command, like 'iptables -A INPUT -s <some ip> -j ACCEPT' at a certain, i don't really want to create a new script for that
[11:44] <zamba> meaning create a new file and then write the commands
[11:44] <KoluCCi> my config: http://pastebin.com/NnCSmcfn, but as said here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1812194&postcount=7 all works fine. The same notebook (Toshiba S2400). Where is my fault?
[11:44] <scibotic> gottto, It has my user all over it, and I've done a chown -R just to be sure. Still permission denied.
[11:45] <gottto> scibotic: tried logging out/in?
[11:45] <scibotic> gottto, Restarted etc.
[11:45] <zamba> nevermind, figured it out
[11:46] <gottto> scibotic: what about    chmod +r   ?
[11:47] <hash3g> hi all, i am trying to replace gw to another ip and get error 'either "to" is duplicate or "gw" is a garbage'. where can I be wrong?
[11:48] <scibotic> gottto, I can read, not modify.
[11:48] <gottto> k
[11:48] <scibotic> gottto, chmod a+wrx still returns "permission denied" when I try to modify the file.
[11:48] <KoluCCi> Does anybody has some experience with Xinerama and notebooks?
[11:49] <neresar> как в хубунте зайти по сети на компьютер?
[11:49] <bazhang> neresar, join #ubuntu-ru
[11:49] <gottto> scibotic: the only other thing I can think of is if it a separate partition it might be mounted readonly
[11:50] <KoluCCi> neresar, I'm russian, but I think almost others aren't. Use English please
[11:50] <scibotic> gottto, Nope, same partition.
[11:50] <gottto> k
[11:50] <scibotic> gottto, Like I said, bizarre.
[11:50] <neresar> join #ubuntu-ru
[11:50] <emcxbuntu> do i have to use a other mask for wlan then for the eth to route the internet?
[11:50] <gottto> scibotic: sure is...
[11:50] <bazhang> neresar, /join #ubuntu-ru
[11:51] <dabukalam> I'm getting an error when installing mysql-server-5.0: "subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" anyone know what that is?
[11:53] <neresar> where is NETWORK in xubuntu?? i'm trying to see network computer
[11:54] <emcxbuntu> use thunar
[11:54] <neresar> what is it?
[11:55] <neresar> file manager?
[11:55] <scibotic> gottto, One sec, I have a weird mount attached to the home directory, looks like ecryptfs might be messing with it.
[11:55] <emcxbuntu> yes
[11:55] <KoluCCi> neresar, file manager, like Explorer in MS Win
[11:55] <neresar> sudo apt-get install thunar?
[11:55] <KoluCCi> neresar, it should be installed by default
[11:56] <neresar> 0_o
[11:56] <hash3g> as I know thunar does not support networking
[11:56] <Jimi_Neutral> how do i completley remove all trace of a fodler off my system
[11:57] <Jimi_Neutral> i need to remove proftpd and do a clean install but when i do remove proftpd the folder is still in etc/
[11:58] <neresar> as i know all "file managers" including MC not support networking
[11:58] <live-linux> hello
[11:58] <un|matrix> is there an opensource alternative for this software? http://www.data-recovery-linux.com/
[11:58] <scibotic> gottto, Okay that fixed it.
[11:58] <SmartSsa> Jimi_Neutral: you need to 'purge' on remove. if you're using command line, apt-get remove --purge proftpd
[11:58] <tiina> hi anyone here who help me with installation of Bank-ID on Ubuntu 9.10
[11:58] <gottto> scibotic: well done :)
[11:59] <neresar> can anybody help with network?
[11:59] <scibotic> gottto, After seven years of Debian SID, you kinda get use to this stuff happening.
[11:59] <dAlfa89_> Jimi_Neutral, you can use Shred to permanently remove folders and files, though I haven't used it myself http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_shred.htm
[11:59] <gottto> hehe
[11:59] <Jimi_Neutral> SmartSsa, ok it said it is not installed so it is not removed
[11:59] <Jimi_Neutral> SmartSsa, but the directory is there cause i am looking at it
[12:00] <SmartSsa> Jimi_Neutral: then feel free to remove the directory yourself. you can use 'rm' to remove files and 'rmdir' to remove directories.
[12:00] <scibotic> gottto, Thank you for the help, wouldn't have caught that mount if you didn't mention it.
[12:01] <Jimi_Neutral> SmartSsa, this is my point...rm isnt working and neither is rmdir
[12:01] <gottto> scibotic: np
[12:01] <neresar> in windows "\\bla-bla-bla", in linux "smb://bla-bla-bla" but it doesn't work
[12:01] <SmartSsa> Jimi_Neutral: using sudo?
[12:01] <Jimi_Neutral> SmartSsa, trying to move to trash isnt highlighted and yea using sudo too
[12:02] <Jimi_Neutral> SmartSsa, it is in /etc
[12:02] <Guest59900> 难道你们是
[12:02] <neresar> does xubuntu supports NETWORK?
[12:02] <bazhang> !cn | Guest59900
[12:02] <erUSUL> Jimi_Neutral: to remove configuration files when you remove a progam use aptitude purge instead of aptitude remove (apt-get has purge to so does synaptic)
[12:02] <gurulenin> hello
[12:03] <erUSUL> neresar: what type of network ?
[12:03] <neresar> local network
[12:03] <Jimi_Neutral> erUSUL, i just did sudo apt-get --purge profptd and it did not work
[12:03] <erUSUL> neresar: of course
[12:03]  * Jaunty is away: Estou ocupado
[12:04] <abhi_nav> !away > Jaunty
[12:04] <bazhang> !away > Jaunty
[12:04] <erUSUL> Jimi_Neutral: maybe it is proftpd-basic or other proftp package the one holding the conf files (proftp is a virtual package)
[12:04] <erUSUL> !away > Jaunty
[12:04] <erUSUL> oops
[12:05] <Guest59900> why do you say english
[12:05] <erUSUL> we made the point very clear ....
[12:05] <Jaunty> qual é gente
[12:05] <bazhang> Guest59900, this is english ubuntu support
[12:05] <Jaunty> deixe me com away tenho q trabalhar
[12:05] <neresar> erUSUL: where?
[12:05] <bazhang> Guest59900, for chinese /join #ubuntu-cn
[12:05] <Guest59900> my english is poor
[12:05] <erUSUL> neresar: describe your problem? what are you trying to do ?
[12:05] <abhi_nav> Yah...........
[12:06] <bazhang> Guest59900, did you have a support question
[12:06] <Jimi_Neutral> erUSUL, well the dir is called just 'proftpd' i did see somethign about basic when i installed it so i just tied that but says it isnt installed so it cannot be removed....i just wanna delete a damn file! how hard can it be! lol
[12:06] <Guest59900> sorry
[12:06] <SmartSsa> Guest59900: please do not private message people without asking.
[12:06] <erUSUL> Jimi_Neutral: install it again; then purge
[12:06] <abhi_nav> !zh | Guest59900
[12:06] <abhi_nav> yah :D
[12:07] <neresar> ok, in ubuntu it's simple, places - network, then smb://..., in xubuntu i don't see any network
[12:07] <Jimi_Neutral> erUSUL, cannot start proftpd, please check syntax of your config file in /etc/proftpd/proftpd.config......lolol
[12:09] <neresar> sorry for my english
[12:09] <GoldShadow> plz How i can install jdownloader last version
[12:09] <neresar> how i will see a local computer?????
[12:09] <un|matrix> how do i recover files from a corrupt ext4 partition?
[12:09] <erUSUL> neresar: so you are trying to access a samba share from within xubuntu gui... a found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=728159 maybe you want to ask in #xubuntu too
[12:10] <gottto> neresar: http://thunar.xfce.org/pwiki/documentation/faq
[12:10] <erUSUL> un|matrix: you passed fsck ?
[12:10] <neresar> thanks alot
[12:10] <neresar> a lot
[12:10] <un|matrix> erUSUL: fsck fails
[12:10] <dabukalam> I'm getting an error when installing mysql-server-5.0: "subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" anyone know what that is?
[12:11] <Jimi_Neutral> i have just even removed it off of synaptic and it still wont go!
[12:11] <Jimi_Neutral> why wont ubuntu just let you delete things!
[12:11] <ayam_jago> dabukalam: try sudo apt-get install -f
[12:11] <emcxbuntu> network is unreachable can i connect from <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:11] <Guest59900> jim what can do to study ubuntu
[12:11] <Urda> Where are the minimum requirements for Ubuntu 10.04 ? Even if they are not final yet...
[12:11] <GoldShadow> plz How do i can install jdownloader last version
[12:11] <erUSUL> !undelete | un|matrix
[12:12] <erUSUL> !requirements
[12:12] <DarkStar1> how do I set ubuntu to auto login in as one of the users on the machine
[12:12] <xangua> GoldShadow: down load it from it's site
[12:12] <jeanfi> Darkfoe, System>Administration>Login screen
[12:12] <daveonearth> hi all
[12:12] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html Guest59900
[12:13] <jeanfi> DarkStar1,  System>Administration>Login screen
[12:13] <quietone> Jimi_Neutral: did you get any msgs when you tried sudo rm <yourfile>
[12:13] <un|matrix> erUSUL: thanks, i'll give those a shot
[12:14] <mohjak> Oracle 10g express edition I can't start the Data Base after installing and rebooting?
[12:14] <GoldShadow> they don't need  any installation structure ??
[12:14] <DarkStar1> jeanfi: thanks very much
[12:14] <daveonearth> where can I log problems i'm having with 10.4 b1 ??
[12:14] <manish> how to use webcam in ubuntu ultimate
[12:14] <manish> any one please help  me out
[12:14] <bazhang> daveonearth, bug reports, #ubuntu+1 for support
[12:15] <Jimi_Neutral> quietone, no such file or directory
[12:15] <bazhang> !bugs > daveonearth
[12:15] <daveonearth> manish what is ubuntu ultimate??
[12:15] <Jimi_Neutral> quietone, im staring right at it and it is telling me it is not there
[12:15] <ayam_jago> manish: have u try using cheese application
[12:15] <bazhang> manish, ultimate is not supported here
[12:15] <manish> its a version of linux platform basically a good OS
[12:15] <pooki> whats the command to get wifi details in ubuntu?
[12:15] <daveonearth> i know what ubuntu is, i just don't know ultimate
[12:15] <bazhang> !derivatives > manish
[12:16] <bazhang> pooki, iwconfig
[12:16] <l053R> hi all.. Off the Karmic LiveCD, I can't chroot. First i tried manually, then using schroot and debootstrap. I always end up with "chrot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file of directory". I can't seem to get to the bottom of this with google searches. Any ideas?
[12:16] <pooki> no it had lspci in it
[12:16] <Jimi_Neutral> quietone, ok i am removing the files from within it but it still wont let me remove the directory itself
[12:16] <sqwertle> Jimi_Neutral: rm -rf /dir
[12:16] <quietone> Jimi_Neutral: ouch. i was about to say that is what I would do.
[12:16] <sqwertle> or wait
[12:17] <bazhang> pooki, for nic? then lspci or lsusb if its usb
[12:17] <erUSUL> l053R: what steps you followed to chroot ?
[12:17] <sqwertle> yes, i believe that works
[12:17] <manish> please any one tell me  ho to use web cam in linux
[12:17] <manish> any software for this
[12:17] <pooki> bazhang: I think its for wifi hardware details
[12:17] <erUSUL> manish: cheese
[12:17] <bazhang> manish, ultimate is not supported here, as was mentioned
[12:17] <sqwertle> manish: It may be automatically supported, try cheese
[12:17] <quietone> Jimi_Neutral: so it is </etc/proftpd> you are trying to delete and there are no files or directories in it any more?
[12:18] <anubis> Hello :)
[12:18] <sqwertle> anubis: Hi.
[12:18] <manish> ok
[12:18] <pooki> someone told me to put those results in pastebin so they can examine the lspci resulsts
[12:18] <anubis> How is everyone today :D?
[12:18] <manish> but is there any version which support this feature
[12:18] <pooki> but I forgot the command :/
[12:18] <Jimi_Neutral> quietone, yup and no
[12:18] <l053R> erUSUL: I have an empty ext3 partition that I mount, bind /dev,/proc and /bin and then try to chroot. that didn't work so i went and followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebootstrapChroot step by step only to end up with the same results...
[12:18] <erUSUL> pooki: go to paste.ubuntu.com
[12:19] <erUSUL> l053R: if it is emprty you can not chroot to it you need a system there ( with a working /bin/bash as the error says)
[12:19] <pooki> how to get wifi working in ubuntu? its useless with internet
[12:19] <sqwertle> pooki: What model wireless card do you have?
[12:19] <quietone> Jimi_Neutral: any partition or mounting issues involved?
[12:19] <anubis> pooki, what u on about its gooood
[12:19] <erUSUL> pooki: did you find out what wifi chip do you have?
[12:19] <l053R> erUSUL: shouldn't debootstrap do that? i believe i do have a system on there now...
[12:19] <daveonearth> pooki, it works out the box
[12:20] <Jimi_Neutral> quiet
[12:20] <manish> cheese wont ork for this
[12:20] <pooki> daveonearth: nope.
[12:20] <sqwertle> daveonearth: It depends on your card.
[12:20] <erUSUL> l053R: well if chrrot can find /bin/bash or /bin/sh it is not complete ....
[12:20] <Jimi_Neutral> quietone, not as far as i know, i have just  opened a new terminal....whatw ould be the command to remove that empty directory
[12:20] <pooki> I dont know which card it is..the wifi is built onto the mobo
[12:20] <manish> ok
[12:20] <erUSUL> pooki: lspci | grep -i netw
[12:20] <erUSUL> !paste | pooki
[12:20] <daveonearth> sqwertle:  for sure.....
[12:20] <manish> ok
[12:20] <erUSUL> pooki: sorry is  "lspci | grep -i net"
[12:21] <manish> thanks  erUSUL
[12:21] <quietone> Jimi_Neutral: rmdir
[12:21] <sqwertle> Jimi_Neutral: sudo rm -rf /etc/...<w/e the folder name is> , will remove the folder and everything in it if there is anything
[12:21] <anubis> Can anyone tell me how to switch between windows when im playing a game full screen .. I read in the forums etswitch or xgame but it seems a bit outdated and they look shit
[12:21] <manish> ok
[12:21] <bazhang> anubis, watch the language
[12:21] <anubis> sorry
[12:21] <bazhang> manish, ok what
[12:21] <manish> anubis, use virtual window
[12:21] <pooki> erUSUL> then I post the resulsts on pastebin
[12:21] <manish> and pres alt + ctrl
[12:22] <anubis> manish,  is it in the synaptic packge manager
[12:22] <Jimi_Neutral> gone ty
[12:22] <erUSUL> pooki: yes
[12:22] <manish> no you hav to doanload it
[12:22] <manish> wine door
[12:22] <pooki> and when I come back u will be here?
[12:22] <Jimi_Neutral> now i juts gotta figure out how to install gadmin-proftp cause all the tutorial are out of date and different....the only proftpd i can find is basic and all the tutorials dont mention basic
[12:22] <manish> or cooperative linux
[12:22] <dabukalam> ayam_jago: i have
[12:23] <dabukalam> ayam_jago: over and over
[12:23] <erUSUL> pooki: probably; if not someone will. do not forget to writte dwon the paste url
[12:23] <anubis> manish,  i have to emulate it ? wont that slow down my gameing ?
[12:23] <anubis> no better solution i guess....?
[12:23] <pooki> erUSUL > okay
[12:23] <vinu> now i have downloaded a file name 3gpconverter.tar.bz2.How can i inatall this tar.bz2 file??
[12:23] <manish> ok
[12:23] <l053R> erUSUL: i'll format the partition and try again... am I right thinking that " sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch i386 karmic /mnt/deploy http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/" should create a satisfactory chroot env?
[12:23] <manish> try another
[12:23] <anubis> like?
[12:23] <manish> ay
[12:23] <manish> way
[12:24] <anubis> what?
[12:24] <erUSUL> l053R: really dunno sorry never used dbootstrap
[12:24] <l053R> erUSUL: how else would you put a minimal system (only need it to install grub, really...) on an empty partition?
[12:25] <Jimi_Neutral> why does it keep gviging me proftpd basic????
[12:25] <anubis> vinu,  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-to-install-bz2-files-491508/
[12:26] <erUSUL> l053R: what are you trying to do ? if you need grub is becouse you have a linux system installed ... why not chroot to that system?
[12:26] <Venom> salut les gens!
[12:26] <erUSUL> !hi
[12:26] <anubis> Any ideas why when i hit ctrl + alt + f8 i get an orange screen ? ( video output freezes ) no console:( i have the comercial ati drivers
[12:26] <WhiteDawn> l053R: why don't you just boot from a live cd and install grub throug that?
[12:27] <Jork> Hello. I have problem playing mkv video format with x64_1080p on vlc. It is slow and picture sometimes frezze during the play. Is any other player who plays mkv files more smooth?
[12:27] <WhiteDawn> Jork: I like mplayer, it works for me
[12:27] <pooki> erusul here is the result http://pastebin.com/XQS55zpp
[12:27] <anubis> anyone ?
[12:27] <lotharreeger> Hallo I need help.I´ve installed Ubuntu 10.04 Beta 1 and the Windows Patition are disappeared.What can I do?
[12:28] <tabasku> hi
[12:28] <WhiteDawn> lotharreeger: go to channel #ubuntu+1 for 10.04 info, but if you deleted the partition dont hope for too much
[12:28] <quietone> Jimi_Neutral: i am using 9.10 and that is the version (1.3.2-3) in synaptic.
[12:28] <pooki> now wat to do
[12:28] <erUSUL> pooki: :/ it only shows the wired ethernet controller ... no the wifi chip. can you paste the entire lspci ouput? sorry you have to reboot twice :S
[12:29] <erUSUL> !lucid | lotharreeger
[12:29] <l053R> erUSUL, WhiteDawn: i'm deploying a non-persistent live-like system and need grub to boot it. at the moment I'm running off a LiveCD and grub can't find the partition to install itself to. Having followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351, I get stuck at "find /boot/grub/stage1", hence why following the latter advice from the same guide...
[12:29] <Jimi_Neutral> quietone, what...basic?
[12:29] <tabasku> does anyone know how well nvidia fx5000 series will work with ubuntu?
[12:29] <pooki> wat to put into terminal
[12:29] <pooki> just lspci
[12:29] <pooki> ?
[12:29] <erUSUL> l053R: is a karmic system ? becouse grub2 does not have /boot/grub/stage1 iirc
[12:29] <erUSUL> pooki: yes
[12:29] <iceroot> pooki: if you want to run lspci, yes
[12:30] <erUSUL> !grub2 | l053R
[12:30] <quietone> Jimi_Neutral: system->Admin->synaptic then search for proftp and look at the choices available. is what you want there?
[12:30] <Jimi_Neutral> quietone, well proftpd'basic is and the gadmin that i want
[12:30] <dj_segfault> Anyone know what app-install-data-commercial is?
[12:31] <erUSUL> !info app-install-data-commercial
[12:32] <madjoe> does anyone use autotab plugin for gEdit? I have a strange error: DeprecationWarning: use gtk.Statusbar.remove_message
[12:32] <mikem> hi, i'd like to install rsnapshot, but I notice it pulls in sshd (openssh-server) as a dependency. is it possible to prevent Ubuntu from installing this? I'm on a laptop and I don't want openssh-server installed
[12:32] <Jork> i tired mpyler but it is even slower than vlc
[12:32] <daveonearth> this irc channel is what makes people think ubuntu is too complicated !
[12:32] <daveonearth> :)
[12:32] <quietone> Jimi_Neutral: i'm confused. you want gadmin-proftpd but not proftp-basic?
[12:32] <mikem> madjoe: that's not an error, that's a warning. nothing to worry about
[12:32] <pooki> erUSUL> http://pastebin.com/yPBWcW2W
[12:32] <WhiteDawn>  Jork: what are your specs? like processor speed?
[12:32] <dj_segfault> erUSUL: I already read the package description, but that doesn't tell me what it really is.  It might as well just say "stuff".
[12:32] <Jork> I change vo_driver to xv but stil doest work for me
[12:32] <madjoe> mikem: ok, so should I just ignore it
[12:33] <Jimi_Neutral> quietone, i was just following the tut and it said proftpd not proftpd-basic
[12:33] <dabukalam> I'm getting an error when installing mysql-server-5.0: "subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" anyone know what that is?
[12:33] <Jork> proc speed is intel dualcore 2.0Gb and 3Gb of ram and Nvidia 8400Gs
[12:33] <mikem> madjoe: yep. it just means the software is using an API which will go away some time in the future. the developers will have fixed the issue by then
[12:33] <Jimi_Neutral> quietone, it is a video one
[12:33] <madjoe> mikem: sweet
[12:33] <erUSUL> mikem: sudo aptitude install -R rsnapshot
[12:33] <WhiteDawn> Jork: hmm, should be fast enough....
[12:33] <dj_segfault> mikem: Can you just have sshd not run?
[12:34] <mikem> dj_segfault: I guess so. it kind of makes me nervous, though :) I was hoping there's a way I can tell Ubuntu to ignore this particular dependency
[12:34] <Jork> and sound is slower than picture
[12:34] <pooki> so to install wifi support what to do?
[12:34] <Jork> it is strange
[12:34] <mikem> erUSUL: I'll give -R a shot... thanks
[12:34] <l053R> erUSUL, WhiteDawn: i'm deploying a non-persistent live-like system and need grub to boot it. at the moment I'm running off a LiveCD and grub can't find the partition to install itself to. Having followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351, I get stuck at "find /boot/grub/stage1", hence why following the latter advice from the same guide... - SORRY - my network has dropped...
[12:35] <erUSUL> pooki: the device does not appear there... are you sure it is a pci device ?????
[12:35] <pooki> erUSUL > The wifi card is built into the mobo...I dunno if dats PCI or not
[12:35] <quietone> Jimi_Neutral: i'd take them to mean the same thing and follow the tut.
[12:35] <mikem> erUSUL: that did it, thanks :)
[12:35] <erUSUL> l053R: that guide is for grub1 i pressume. karmic uses grub2
[12:35] <mikem> by the way, what's the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[12:35] <erUSUL> !grub2 | l053R
[12:35] <WhiteDawn> l053R: you need a partition, and you need to mount it, its not finding the /boot/ partition
[12:36] <l053R> pooki: it should be pci regardless...
[12:36] <sadf> hey where i can write my problem and that i give you a link
[12:36] <abhi_nav> !aptitude
[12:36] <anubis> anyone know a good method for minimzing when playing full screen games?
[12:36] <abhi_nav> !apt-get
[12:36] <erUSUL> pooki: well maybe it is connected via usb. can you paste « lsusb » output ? or better « sudo lshw -C Network »
[12:37] <WhiteDawn> Jork: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html download and install the binary codecs, matroska isnt foss
[12:37] <WhiteDawn> !aptitude
[12:37] <Jork> thnx WhiteDawn
[12:38] <pooki> OKAY
[12:38] <Slart> !pastebin | sadf
[12:38] <l053R> WhiteDawn: makes sense... i'll go play around a little more then... just to make sure we're on the same page, ext3 will not cut it and i need to mount a boot partition. is there a particular type (hex code) i should make such partition using fdisk, or can i just flag it as bootable?
[12:38] <Jimi_Neutral> quietone, ok you are using it yeah? I have just follwed that tut to the letter, it is all installed and i have made up a usr and pass doing the random buttons, saved everything and the thing wont activate
[12:38] <Jimi_Neutral> quietone, i press the button and it doesnt activate
[12:38] <sadf> thnx
[12:39] <WhiteDawn> l053R: just flag it as bootable, I allways use ext2 for my boot partition and it seems to allways work. Doesn't need complicated filesystem for just a couple of mb
[12:39] <l053R> erUSUL, WhiteDawn: THANKS!
[12:39] <WhiteDawn> l053R: also, in older versions of grub, the boot partition needs to be the first parition on hte drive
[12:40] <l053R> WhiteDawn: thanks... you've been very helpful!
[12:40] <quietone> Jimi_Neutral: sorry but I don't use proftpd. but I am curious, what do you expect to see when it activates?
[12:40] <WhiteDawn> haha no problem
[12:40] <Jimi_Neutral> quietone, the word on the right that says 'deactivated' change to 'activated' like it does on the video
[12:41] <pooki> erUSUL > http://pastebin.com/Qz6BanFw
[12:43] <pooki> I think I found the wifi card
[12:43] <pooki> MCP77 Ethernet > How to install?
[12:43] <Dolp> I accidently removed the recycling bin from the lower right corner, how do i put it in?
[12:43] <quietone> Jimi_Neutral: Maybe look for error msgs in the logs or web search
[12:44] <WhiteDawn> pooki: Ethernet could mean its your wired not wireless
[12:44] <abhi_nav> Dolp right click on it add to pane and add trash
[12:44] <WhiteDawn> Dolp: you can also empty recycle bin from the file browser
[12:44] <pooki> then why not LSPCI show the wifi card
[12:44] <Dolp> abhi_nav it's not there
[12:45] <Dolp> wait
[12:45] <Dolp> got it
[12:45] <Dolp> thx
[12:45] <abhi_nav> Dolp it is there. hmmmmmmmmmm
[12:45] <WhiteDawn> pooki: whats the name of your card? is it usb?
[12:45] <vinu> is there any video converter for all formats
[12:46] <Kalisto> what should i look into if I want simple voice activation. for example I sag: "computer!  and my machine shuts down?
[12:46] <pooki> I dont think its USB. It's built onto the mobo..I dont have its name..lspci doesn't show anything either.
[12:46] <Kalisto> pre defined voice commands do pre defined things, I dont need advanced speech to text though
[12:46] <WhiteDawn> pooki: whats the motherboard?
[12:47] <abhi_nav> vinu: yes
[12:47] <perlsyntax> How do i remove the gnome-panel so i can have just awn-manger on my desktop?
[12:47] <WhiteDawn> vinu: http://handbrake.fr/
[12:48] <abhi_nav> perlsyntax: right click on panel=>delete this panel
[12:48] <pooki> whitedawn > http://pastebin.com/LAhz96de
[12:48] <Kalisto> is Gnome-Voice-Control any good?
[12:48] <perlsyntax> it won't work
[12:48] <perlsyntax> do i remove it in my apt-get?
[12:49] <abhi_nav> perlsyntax: wont work means? the option is there or not?
[12:49] <WhiteDawn> pooki: what is the name of your motherboard, a wireless card isnt in that list
[12:49] <Lord_Of_Computin> Hello, can someone please explain why a USB modem device would get registered with three device names? ttyUSB[0-2]
[12:49] <pooki> whitedawn> I dont know name of mobo...how to find out?
[12:49] <perlsyntax> no option
[12:50] <abhi_nav> perlsyntax: i said right click on PANEL you are clickin on panel? right click?
[12:50] <perlsyntax> yes
[12:50] <abhi_nav> >
[12:50] <abhi_nav> ?
[12:50] <WhiteDawn> pooki: can u upload your full lspci? type this in terminal "lspci &> log.log" then open log.log with a texteditor and paste it in pastebin
[12:50] <abhi_nav> perlsyntax: hmmmmmmmm...........dont know then
[12:50] <pooki> perlsyntax> U need to add "killall gnome-panel" to the startup list of your session
[12:51] <pooki> WhiteDawn> What I showed u was the full lspci
[12:51] <pooki> this one: http://pastebin.com/LAhz96de
[12:51] <tarelerulz> How would you find out if you have  bluetooth on a computer?
[12:52] <WhiteDawn> pooki: if you sent your lspci send again, my net just went down for a bit
[12:52] <abhi_nav> ?
[12:52] <abhi_nav> How would you find out if a cow milks or not?
[12:52] <pooki> ttp://pastebin.com/LAhz96de
[12:52] <pooki> http://pastebin.com/LAhz96de
[12:52] <abhi_nav> :P :D :)
[12:52] <perlsyntax> pooki,How do i do that?
[12:53] <perlsyntax> i see
[12:53] <WhiteDawn> pooki: can u upload your full lspci? type this in terminal "lspci &> log.log" then open log.log with a texteditor and paste it in pastebin
[12:53] <abhi_nav> tarelerulz: do you have a branded pc?
[12:53] <tarelerulz> yes
[12:53] <tarelerulz> hp
[12:54] <abhi_nav> tarelerulz: which one? on their web site they have full description of your computer. each and every section is covered
[12:54] <WhiteDawn> pooki: ah never mind, you can check motherboard name by looking at the physical motherboard, it's usualy written on it
[12:54] <pooki> WhiteDawn> Did you have a look at the pastebin link I posted? It is the full LSPCI result, I believe
[12:54]  * Lord_Of_Computin ping
[12:54]  * Jaunty is back (gone 00:50:40)
[12:54] <abhi_nav> !away > Jaunty
[12:54] <perlsyntax> pooki?
[12:55] <WhiteDawn> pooki: if your on a laptop/store bought computer, the model name and brand helps too
[12:55] <daveonearth> someone please point me to the south african ubuntu channel
[12:55] <jasonmchristos> does anyone know if there are any advantages to making a /boot partition when planning on installing multiple releases of ubuntu on my laptop?
[12:55] <pooki> perlsyntax> Have a look here http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2740/ubuntu_add_applications_to_startup_programs/
[12:56] <pooki> In the command section, put in "killall gnome-panel"
[12:56] <tarelerulz> Maybe this is dumb ,but you have wireless card /wifi card  can you use that to network two laptop with out a route?  So you could say share files
[12:56] <pooki> WhiteDawn> It's a custom PC
[12:56] <WhiteDawn> jasonmchristos: you can access the boot parition from all releases and its not dependant on a ubuntu partition so you can delete them without worry for boot
[12:56] <WhiteDawn> pooki: allright, just open it up, usualy the name is silkscreened on
[12:57] <elb0w> So after I select Node form install the screen just dissappears
[12:57] <elb0w> And stays blue
[12:57] <elb0w> and I can type in the gray bar
[12:57] <elb0w> I installed 3 times with this cd yesterday
[12:57] <abhi_nav> tarelerulz: there are two documents for each model of hp compuer namely "Safety and confort guide" and "Maintenance and service guide" you can take their address for call center or search google
[12:57] <perlsyntax> i see  where that is
[12:58] <WhiteDawn> elb0w: did you leave the cd near a window?
[12:58] <abhi_nav> tareleruz: yes we can do that. it is called as ado-hoc network
[12:58] <abhi_nav> !ad-hoc
[12:58] <tarelerulz> Well, I have no idea where the books are
[12:58] <abhi_nav> ohhh
[12:58] <jasonmchristos> WhiteDawn: so lets ssay  i install ubuntu without a boot partition then install kubuntu alongside if i remove ubuntu it will break kubuntu nless i have a /boot is that correct?
[12:58] <Vroomfondle> jasonmchristos: why would you install them separately?
[12:58] <WhiteDawn> jasonmchristos: yes, if boot partion is excluded from both systems then you can delete etheir or without having to worry bout grub or having to reconfigure it
[12:58] <Vroomfondle> they can both co-exist within the same OS.
[12:58] <tarelerulz> You guys rock. I no idea what it was called. I understand networking some ,but  sometimes you need the right word to use google
[12:59] <pooki> WhiteDawn I dont want to do that. Is there any alternative
[12:59] <abhi_nav> tarelerulz: see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[12:59] <WhiteDawn> pooki: if you built your own computer you should be comferatable removing hte side pannel :P
[12:59] <abhi_nav> tarelerulz: yes we can do that. it is called as ado-hoc network
[12:59] <abhi_nav> tarelerulz: ad-hoc*
[12:59] <jasonmchristos> WhiteDawn: that answer confused me , so you are saying that there is no need for a /boot part?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:00] <WhiteDawn> jasonmchristos: its good to have one, it would be exclusive. What you do to the operating systems (whether that is deleting them or moving them) you will still have functioning boot
[13:00]  * Jaunty is away: Estou ocupado
[13:00] <abhi_nav> tarelerulz: you got my messages?
[13:00] <dabukalam> I'm getting an error when installing mysql-server-5.0: "subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" anyone know what that is?
[13:01] <pooki> WhiteDawn> Actually someone made it for me according to my guidelines. :>
[13:01] <jasonmchristos> Vroomfondle: i can install kubuntu on top of my existing ubuntu, how just by synaptic?
[13:01] <Q_Continuum> I'd rather not install the nVidia binary drivers - Dell Inspiron E1505 with GeForce Go 7200 - but want to enable secondary display (not as mirrored), running 9.10.
[13:01] <abhi_nav> jasonmchristos: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[13:01] <bazhang> jasonmchristos, the package kubuntu-desktop
[13:01] <dabukalam> Vroomfondle: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[13:02] <dabukalam> okay, beaten to it
[13:02] <WhiteDawn> pooki: ah i see :P. Well hopefully they didn't rip you off by saying there is wifi when htere isn't :P. Ill look for a way to name your motherboard
[13:02] <jasonmchristos> WhiteDawn: what will be stored on /boot , grub? im not understanding the advantage
[13:02] <LekeFly> Is it possible to have several machines back up via time machine? via a NAS server..
[13:03] <pooki> WhiteDawn> I found a way
[13:03] <pooki> already...I'll post the results
[13:03] <jasonmchristos> ok gys ill do that for kubuntu but i think ubuntu studio will need a seperate partition
[13:03] <WhiteDawn> jasonmchristos: grub will be in the /boot/ partition. If you delete ubuntu/kubuntu it wont affect the /boot/ partition so grub will still function normaly
[13:04] <PuffTheMagicDRGN> A presto!
[13:04] <jasonmchristos> WhiteDawn: but the only other option is that Grub is on the MBR and eleting other os wont affect this anyway right?
[13:04] <bazhang> jasonmchristos, the package ubuntustudio-desktop will install it
[13:04] <WhiteDawn> jasonmchristos: grub is on the mbr, but what configures grub is located in the /boot/ folder, without it, it wont work properly
[13:04] <jasonmchristos> bazhang: but studio needs seperate kernal and special tweaks to the audio software
[13:04] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:04] <DarkStar1> any tightvnc users here by any chance?
[13:05] <rokovnik> hi, is there tool in ubuntu like system-config-network in Centos?
[13:05] <jasonmchristos> ok ill just make a /boot to be safe do i need to point every install to that same partition as i would /home
[13:05] <abhi_nav> rokovnik: what you want to do?
[13:06] <rokovnik> configure network through text mode gui
[13:06] <WhiteDawn> pookie: put a : at end of my name not a >, that way my client highlights your line and i notice it quicker
[13:06] <Jimi_Neutral> does anyone here use proftpd because i cannot connect to this damn box and i have followed a tut to the letter
[13:06] <Jimi_Neutral> really need some help on this cause im about to go mad
[13:06] <WhiteDawn> jasonmchristos: I am not sure, but it doesn't hurt if you do, then you can configure grub from any distro
[13:07] <jasonmchristos> WhiteDawn: thanks
[13:07] <offfair> есть русские?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> !ru | offfair
[13:07] <pooki> WhiteDawn: here you go..http://pastebin.com/xLvsWXus
[13:07] <jasonmchristos> WhiteDawn: should i make it ext 2 3 or 4
[13:08] <sethdemuerte> hello
[13:08] <WhiteDawn> jasonmchristos: I allways used ext2 because its legacy and probraly easier to use for a simple program like grub. That is my oppinion though, never tried any other filesystem
[13:08] <xangua> !hi | sethdemuerte
[13:09] <sethdemuerte> can somebody please help me with ubuntu 9.10 netbook remix?
[13:10] <sethdemuerte> hello xangua
[13:10] <sethdemuerte> i am new here
[13:10] <WhiteDawn> pooki: nice output there, sadly it doesn't say anything about wireless or the name of your motherbord :<
[13:10] <elb0w> WhiteDawn, it was on my desk
[13:10] <elb0w> It was less than 24hours ago
[13:10] <elb0w> that I used it
[13:11] <WhiteDawn> elb0w: just a long shot, i was just sugesting that maybe some uv-rays destroyed some data, happend to me before
[13:11] <sethdemuerte> hello?
[13:11] <pooki> WhiteDawn: how can that be...I've tried lspci, lsusb and many other commands...
[13:11] <elb0w> Cant see that happening but ill reburn and see
[13:12] <pooki> WhiteDawn: well I've given up on Ubuntu anyway..thnx for ur patience
[13:12] <xangua> !help | sethdemuerte
[13:12] <WhiteDawn> pooki: does wireless work in your windows partion?
[13:12] <pooki> WhiteDawn: yes...but I had to install the drivers that came with the mobo
[13:13] <sethdemuerte> my friend's hp netbook was installed with unbuntu 9.1 netbook remix, but it cant connect to the wifi in our school.
[13:13] <WhiteDawn> pooki: the driver disk could have hte motherboards name on it
[13:13] <sethdemuerte> my friend's hp netbook was installed with unbuntu 9.1 netbook remix, but it cant connect to the wifi in our school.is there something i can download now and install it in my friend's netbook?