[04:25] <chotchki> hello everyone, i'm looking to start helping with bug triage and wondered if anyone could guide me some
[04:27] <chotchki> ive read through the wiki pages around triage and wanted to pick a sample bug and make sure im following the process properly
[04:35] <chotchki> namely what ive done to bug #580710
[04:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 580710 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Evolution crashes when starting new message (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/580710
[04:40]  * ddecator looks
[04:41] <ddecator> chotchki: did you have any specific questions about it?
[04:43] <chotchki> ddecator, just whether I handled it properly as a newbie
[04:44] <ddecator> chotchki: looks like it to me. if it really is crashing (kind of hard to tell due to the wording in the description) then a crash report is always nice. however, since it's not a development release, apport is disabled by default, so the reporter will have to enable apport and then reproduce the crash. let me get you a response for that a sec...
[04:46] <chotchki> ddecator, one of these? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses
[04:48] <ddecator> chotchki: oh yah, there is one on there. after the reporter gets back to you, you can use either this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Missing%20a%20crash%20report%20or%20having%20a%20.crash%20attachment or this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/433662/
[04:49] <chotchki> thank you!
[04:50] <ddecator> chotchki: no problem =)
[04:50] <chotchki> is the pastebin method the preferred instructions?
[04:51] <ddecator> chotchki: pastebin is preferred for posting long things on IRC, such as output or stock responses like that. helps keep conversations on IRC clear =)
[04:52] <ddecator> chotchki: also a quick tip: if you click the arrow next to the ubuntu package listin on a bug report, you'll get a lot of options, and you can change the status of a bug and leave a comment at the same time (just a nice little timesaver)
[04:52] <ddecator> s/listin/listing
[04:52] <chotchki> nice, thanks!
[04:52] <chotchki> (i meant if the instructions you posted were the preferred method of starting apport)
[04:54] <ddecator> oh, gotcha. there's no preferred way really. i like the way in the response i gave you because it enables it for one session, where as the stock response on the site enables it until the user goes in and disables it (i believe)
[04:54] <chotchki> okay gotcha
[04:56] <ddecator> also, have you applied for bugsquad yet? i saw that you signed the CoC and you already read the triage guides
[04:57] <chotchki> i wasnt sure if i could apply since i only just started helping
[04:58] <ddecator> yup, all you have to do is sign the CoC and acknowledge that you read the triage guides on the wiki. you're not required to be a member, but it will make you eligible for a mentor if you wish to have one
[05:01] <chotchki> nice, ill probably apply in a couple days once i get a better feel for it
[05:02] <ddecator> sure thing. if you have any more questions, feel free to ask them here. it may take a while for someone to respond, but eventually someone will
[05:05] <chotchki> thanks for the help!
[05:05] <ddecator> any time =)
[05:41] <kermiac> anyone got a sec to help me get my head around how launchpad package assignment works now? It seems to have changed. I'm using staging to try to get my head around it but it's not sinking in :( I want to ensure that (as an example) https://staging.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/572595 has an "Ubuntu" task so that it is counted towards 5-a-day but "ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu)" doesn't seem to be available
[05:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 572595 in ubuntuone-client "stopping synchonizing folder crashes nautilus (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Invalid]
[05:45] <ddecator> Affects Distribution, then select Ubuntu and find the package
[05:46] <kermiac> ok, looking - thanks ddecator
[05:47] <ddecator> kermiac: no problem. i wasn't sure either until i just tried that, haha. it's because the project on there doesn't tie the report to ubuntu, so you have to mark that it affects ubuntu and then you can find the package that's in the repo
[05:48] <kermiac> argh timeout :( trying again
[05:49] <kermiac> ddecator: ok... yeah, that work :) is that a "relatively" new change mate? I don't remember having to do that before
[05:49] <ddecator> kermiac: no idea, i've never had to do that before, haha
[05:49] <kermiac> ok, i'll ask the u1 guys. Thanks mate
[05:50] <ddecator> no problem
[09:46] <NickNak> Hi all. I was able to reproduce bug 454134 in Karmic, but not with Lucid. Should I mark it "Fix Released" (even though it may still be a problem in Karmic)?
[09:46] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 454134 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) "openoffice calc is crasing on moving sheet with drag and drop (affects: 9) (dups: 2) (heat: 64)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/454134
[09:46] <tsimpson> no, just comment on it
[09:47] <NickNak> OK
[10:21] <SwedeMike> I have a bug that is "fix released" and closed (because it's fixed in 10.04, but still problem in 9.10), should I complain then? I have upgraded all my 9.10 to boxes to 10.04 so the problem is solved for me personally...
[10:38] <cwillu> SwedeMike, I usually add a target for the older version, and leave that as confirmed or wontfix
[10:48] <SwedeMike> this is https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/516524 if that helps?
[10:48] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 516524 in plymouth (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "text plugin: mountall status clobbers passphrase prompt (affects: 2) (heat: 16)" [Medium,Fix released]
[10:50] <giantpune> hey boys.  im looking at how to set a static IP address.  i see the file i need to edit.  but im trying to figre out where to find what to type in that file
[10:51] <giantpune> in windows i can type ipconfgi and it will tell my my current settings.  is there a similar command in ubuntu?
[10:51] <giantpune> ipconfig^
[10:51] <SwedeMike> ip -4 a l
[10:51] <jfi_> you should try to ask #ubuntu
[10:51] <giantpune> sorry.  i forgot i had this auto join the bugs channel
[15:08] <bullgard> thekorn: My SeaMonkey/Chatzilla just crashed. My ~/.xsession-errors should have noticed. What string should I grep for? (~/.xsession-errors does not show time-stamps.)
[15:10] <yofel> bullgard: it should be something like 'processname: ...' so search for seamonkey messages
[15:10] <yofel> bullgard: and do you have a segfault message in dmesg?
[15:20] <bullgard> yofel: dmesg does not show a segfault message.
[15:25] <bullgard> yofel: ~/.xsession-errors shows several warnings: "Window manager warning: Buggy client sent a _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW message with a timestamp of 0 for 0x560003a (SeaMonkey)."
[15:27] <Aquina> ~/.xsession-errors gives me thousands of warnings a day. I still don't care anymore. Take care of errors and forget WARNINGS since thy will never dissapear.
[15:30] <bullgard> Aquina: Well. And how should I find out the reason why Chatzilla and SeaMonkey do crash about once a day without my intervention?
[15:36] <yofel> bullgard: you could run it in gdb, will slow it down though
[15:37]  * yofel doesn't care about .xsession-errors either, KDE puts too much stuff in there...
[15:40] <bullgard> yofel: Thank you.
[15:43] <Aquina> Hm. A.p. that's a good question. I doubt however it has something to do with WM warnings. I'm not the maintainer of these programs and don't know their code but I think the problem is elsewhre. What dies the /var/log hive say? Checked all the usual files after the crash?
[15:44] <Aquina> As an alternative install debug symbols for these apps and run 'em with a debugger. Upon crash you'll have something to post on Launchpad. :-)
[16:32] <bullgard> Aquina: I do not know what "the usual files after the crash" are. Please name them.
[16:35] <Damascene> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vinagre/+bug/406383
[16:35] <Damascene> I've this bug now
[16:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 406383 in vinagre (Ubuntu) "locked possibility to choose protocol and it is empty (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Fix released]
[16:49] <Aquina> Usual = messages, daemon /X11/* and so on...
[16:49] <Aquina> Can someone tell me what the heat indicator on Launchpad means?
[16:51] <yofel> Aquina: http://blog.launchpad.net/bug-tracking/bug-heat
[16:51] <astraljava> Aquina: http://blog.launchpad.net/bug-tracking/bug-heat
[16:51] <yofel> heh
[16:51] <astraljava> :D
[17:00] <bullgard> Aquina<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:38] <bullgard> yofel: I probably made a mistake. I told you "[16:20]	<bullgard>	yofel: dmesg does not show a segfault message." But the command '~$ strace -e trace=open seamonkey' produced >100 times the message: "(seamonkey-2.0-bin:2766): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead." and at the end: "The program 'seamonkey-2.0-bin' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the...
[17:38] <bullgard> ...program. The error was 'RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter)'.
[17:38] <bullgard>   (Details: serial 7778729 error_code 158 request_code 148 minor_code 7)   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error()...
[17:38] <bullgard> ...function.) Segmentation fault --- SIGCHLD (Child exited) @ 0 (0) ---" --  Should I now do now '~$ strace -e --sync trace=open seamonkey'?
[17:39] <yofel> not sure, I'm not an expert when It comes to strace, I usually just use it when something hangs without crashing
[17:40] <yofel> anyone else?
[17:54] <benste> may I remove a i386 tag from a bug report if I as a 2nd person can confirm this bug on a amd64 system ?
[17:55] <benste> (talking about) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/578633
[17:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 578633 in compiz (Ubuntu) "If desktop effects are enabled, gnome-panel stills visible during fullscreen OpenOffice Impress presentation (affects: 2) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[17:55] <om26er> benste, yes
[17:56] <benste> k thx
[17:56] <benste> and if apport quotes "InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 9.10 "Karmic Koala" - Release i386 (20091028.5)"
[17:56] <benste> does it mean the lucid system was installed by an upgrade from karmic ?
[18:00] <kklimonda> yes
[18:01] <benste> k
[18:01] <benste> thx
[18:01] <skorasaurus> hi, I'd like to report that the fix in proposed is working, I read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed that 'For extra points please help us verify the fixes to the proposed updates as listed ' how do I verify ? just comment in the bug's LP ?
[18:01] <skorasaurus> it's been a while since I last did this, hehe.
[18:02] <kklimonda> yes, add the comment that you have tested package from -proposed, it has fixed the problem and you haven't seen any regressions
[18:15] <skorasaurus> k, thanks, kklimonda
[18:18] <om26er> #solang
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[18:30] <penguin42> hmm, 1st time I think I've seen IRC spam
[18:32] <yofel> really? we had that huge DOS and spam attack before freenode switched ircds though
[18:34] <nigelb> yofel: dont remind me of those days
[18:35] <yofel> :P
[18:35] <nigelb> I popped in and asked for help in #ubuntu-ops
[18:35] <nigelb> but I dont think anything can be done since that person left the room
[18:36] <kklimonda> he god K-Lined anyway
[18:36] <kklimonda> got*
[18:38] <nigelb> oh yah :)
[20:38] <nigelb> BlackZ: bug 570879 isn't even in the right package
[20:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 570879 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "OpenGL graphic errors in google earth (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/570879
[20:38] <nigelb> technically its a bug in google earth right?
[20:39] <BlackZ> nigelb: hmm
[20:39] <nigelb> also, bug 571257 isn't really confirmed.  you're still awating information from OP, so its not exactly right to set an importance
[20:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 571257 in gedit (Ubuntu) "Gedit closes after the open of a new created file (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/571257
[20:41] <nigelb> I'll have to -1 for now.  Sorry :/
[20:41] <nigelb> just reapply after a week or 2
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[23:35] <trinikrono> hey all :D


[02:06] <webchat29> hi
[04:42] <V1A> hi im VIA
[04:42] <V1A> im having some massive poblems to get the system to boot after updating
[04:43] <V1A> its 100% related to GPU drivers
[04:44] <V1A> amdgpu and amdgpu where starting to cause the errors, i managed to purge all the packages and tried aurorepairs etc
[04:44] <V1A> auto**
[04:46] <V|A> ..that mustav been the wrong key
[04:47] <V|A> i dont know how to access /backup my data or fix it so it boots, backup would be perffect
[04:48] <V|A> because im planning to fullly reinstallif anyone read(s) this, please pm VIA thats usually my name i should be on
[04:49] <V|A> another machine
[11:00] <mitsubachi> Hello folks. I reported a bug on launchpad and a bot marked it as a duplicate of a private bug... and then helpfully told me to look at the other bug for more information, workarounds, or to fill in anything.
[11:00] <mitsubachi> How does that concept work? How can I read the private bug that mine is a duplicate of.
[20:46] <xu-help67w> how do I make a new account if I have no password for this device
[22:41] <xu-irc89w> hi
[22:41] <gnrp> xu-irc89w: hi
[22:41] <xu-irc89w> You're using a XFCE?
[22:41] <gnrp> yep
[22:41] <xu-irc89w> Amazing
[22:42] <xu-irc89w> you know if have a telegram group of XFCE
[22:42] <gnrp> I'm not aware of any


[00:06] <avihay> I recently noticed that I can't left-click the icon on my decorations to access the menu, only right click works...
[00:41] <xixor> sup
[00:42] <simplew> my mouse stops working without apparent reason, any one knows why? i see that this is a problem that has happened to other ubuntu users
[00:43] <OerHeks> simplew, if it is an usb mouse, plug it out an back in again?
[00:43] <xixor> despite my best attempts to kill my mouse, mine still works
[00:43] <OerHeks> oh, please don't crosspost
[00:43] <simplew> OerHeks: sometimes work, others doesnt
[00:43] <xixor> !backports
[00:43] <xixor> !packaging
[00:47] <Navetz> Hello can someone help me debug my laptop running kubuntu. I upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 recently. Everything went fine then I went to login the other day and everytime I type my password into the login screen, I get a black screen for a split second (command screen with writing but it goes away before I can read it) and it brings me back to the login screen
[00:48] <xixor> Hm......
[00:49] <xixor> should I allow unsupported and pre-release updates in muon I wonder?
[00:49] <jedihawk> Navetz: have you tried tailing a log file?
[00:50] <Navetz> jedihawk, not really sure how personally, had a friend do it for me today and it said a lot of things about eth0 being disabled so I'm assuming the wireless drivers aren't working
[00:51] <jedihawk> do you have the thing in front of you now?
[00:51] <Navetz> yes
[00:51] <jedihawk> Ctrl-Alt-F1.  got a login prompt?
[00:51] <Navetz> i can go into consol login from the logiin screen
[00:52] <jedihawk> whatever works for ya.
[00:52] <kroku> hi all
[00:52] <xixor> yo
[00:53] <kroku> any eclipse users here?
[00:53] <Navetz> ohhh I think i have some more info. If I go to tty7 iI see aned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned. Then it says starting apache server, then it says checking battery state... This is the screen that shows up for a split second when I try to login
[00:53] <MelRay> Is it possible to keep Kontakts synced with the addressbook in Gmail?
[00:54] <Navetz> jedihawk, logged in
[00:55] <kroku> i've probably java / eclipse related problem
[00:55] <jedihawk> Navetz: cd /var/log
[00:55] <jedihawk> Navetz: tail -f messages
[00:56] <kroku> have an hour or so before my flight
[00:56] <jedihawk> Navetz: switch back to your GUI login and try again, then check the log.
[00:57] <Navetz> jedihawk, how do I get back to GUI login? do I need to reboot?
[00:58] <jedihawk> Navetz: Ctrl-Alt-F7 or F8.  Ctrl-Alt-F*
[00:59] <Navetz> ctrl-alt-f7 seems to be frozen at that black screen. I'll reboot, try to login, then read logs
[00:59] <MelRay> Navetz: Try tty 1
[00:59] <Navetz> MelRay, I have tty1
[00:59] <Navetz> just not gui
[01:00] <MelRay> Navetz: If you login on tty1 you can't start your gui?
[01:00] <OerHeks> kroku, try #eclips
[01:01] <Navetz> MelRay, I can never start my GUI, the closest I get is my login screen, it flashes black when I enter my password and brings me back to my login screen
[01:02] <MelRay> Navetz: Ahhhh...
[01:02] <jedihawk> Navetz: a while ago, my gui login screen broke (still have no idea why) so I'd switch to the first tty (Ctrl-Alt-F1), log in, then manually launch the gui with 'startx'. did that for a while. worked fine as I didn't reboot very often.
[01:04] <MelRay> I wonder if a xorg.conf file got created somehow....might be  a .conf file screwing it up...or vice versa
[01:05] <kroku> thnx OreHeks
[01:05] <Navetz> I tried startx, says it's already running and to delete a lock
[01:05] <jedihawk> cd /var/log ; tail -f Xorg.*
[01:05] <xixor> my debugging in linux involves no tailing of log files.  I would be mv ~/.kde to ~/.kde_old.  moving xorg.conf files around, dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current .... I'm also not good at fixing linux with a poor track record
[01:06] <MelRay> Navetz: do ps -ax and see what has created the lock
[01:07] <MelRay> Kill the process
[01:11] <Navetz> the log shows uploading evdev, then next line shows ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log. Next line:Server terminated successfully (0). closing log file
[01:12] <Navetz> in xorg.failsave.log I see xf860OpenConsol: VT_WAITACTIVE failed: Interruped system call
[01:12] <Navetz> MelRay, How do I tell what's created the lock from ps -ax?
[01:12] <MelRay> You might look for the .old xorg log and compare it to the current and look for variation
[01:14] <Navetz> kk
[01:16] <MelRay> Navetz: This might be a possibility to try....https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/441653
[01:17] <Navetz> MelRay, this might just be it, ill look into it thanks
[01:17] <MelRay> Navetz: Sure
[01:21] <Omar> hi every body, I installed FDesktoprecorder, but when I start recording, It doesn't, something wrong with ffmpeg. here is the message:  ffmpeg version 0.8.3-6:0.8.3-6ubuntu2, Copyright (c) 2000-2012 the Libav developers
[01:21] <Omar>   built on Oct  1 2012 12:54:15 with gcc 4.7.2
[01:21] <Omar> *** THIS PROGRAM IS DEPRECATED ***
[01:21] <Omar> This program is only provided for compatibility and will be removed in a future release. Please use avconv instead.
[01:21] <Omar> [x11grab @ 0xc7cf60] device: :0.0 -> display: :0.0 x: 0 y: 0 width: 1366 height: 768
[01:21] <FloodBotK1> Omar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:22] <Omar> here is the error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1338754/
[01:22] <MelRay> Omar: Is avconv installed?
[01:23] <Omar> yes
[01:24] <MelRay> I would check the settings....it looks like a mis match in there...
[01:24] <Omar> where exactly ?
[01:25] <Omar> I didn't touch any thing yet
[01:25] <MelRay> Before you record isn't there a set of menu options?
[01:25] <Omar> yes
[01:27] <Omar> when I was having 12.04, I found the same problem, but I fixed It and I don't remember how
[01:28] <Omar> I redid a long search, but without result :(
[01:28] <Navetz> MelRay, looks like the bug has been fixed in xorg-server, i'm going to try and get the latest version
[01:28] <Omar> ok, thank you a lot
[01:28] <MelRay> Navetz: Awesome...good luck
[01:29] <MelRay> Omar: How did you install the app? I don't see anything in Muon
[01:29] <Omar> use this ppa: ppa:blueleaflinux/ppa
[01:30] <Omar> here is the officiel page http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/FDesktopRecorder?content=147844
[01:36] <MelRay> Omar you might try compiling it from source to see if that makes a difference
[01:36] <Omar> I tried It, but I get the same error
[01:37] <Omar> the problem is with that ffmeg :P
[01:37] <Omar> ffmpeg
[01:37] <Navetz> MelRay, it's looking like my quickest option is to do a fresh install
[01:37] <Navetz> if I install from an ubuntu 12.10 live cd, can I add kde easily?
[01:38] <MelRay> Navetz: ?
[01:39] <MelRay> Just use apt-get
[01:39] <Navetz> MelRay, I wanted to give gnome a try, havent used it in a long time. But I want KDE too, can you have ubuntu and kubuntu at the same time or does that not work anymore ?
[01:39] <MelRay> Yes you can...that will be somewhat of a time consuming process depending on connection speed
[01:39] <Navetz> MelRay, ah I'll just leave it on overnight
[01:41] <Omar> MelRay: did FDesktoprecorder work for you ?
[01:42] <MelRay> I haven't tried it...
[01:44] <Omar> ok, so do you have a suggestion to solve the problem ?
[01:45] <MelRay> Omar: Uninstall what you have and try this...sudo apt-get install gtk-recordmydesktop
[01:45] <Omar> dose it work with KDE ?
[01:46] <MelRay> Here is the link to the website.....I believe it does yes...http://www.noobslab.com/2012/02/install-best-screen-recorder-on-ubuntu.html
[01:47] <Omar> ok, trying It :)
[01:48] <MelRay> Omar: Ok hope it works for you...
[01:49] <MelRay> Anyone know how to clear the scrollback buffer?
[01:49] <MelRay> In Quassel that is
[01:50] <xixor> lol, n000bs lab
[01:51] <Omar> hhhh
[01:51] <Omar> we're noobs, allways
[01:51] <MelRay> xixor: ;-)
[01:52] <xixor> lol, n000bunt000b.
[01:53] <MelRay> Amazing what you can find doing a web search....lol
[01:54] <Omar> MelRay: that gtk-recordmydesktop gived a very bad render
[01:54] <Omar> either sound and image
[01:55] <MelRay> It was worth a try......
[01:55] <MelRay> I don't know if you can tweak the settings to get something usable or not...
[01:56] <Omar> I'm trying that too :)
[01:58] <Omar> the reason why I'm insisting on FDesktoprecorder is because last time It worked with me, It gived a very nice and clean image and voice :)
[01:59] <Omar> not working at all :(
[02:00] <MelRay> Ok then use the command line which is always the best choice....just search record desktop using ffmpeg and there you go
[02:00] <Omar> ok, thank you :)
[02:02] <OerHeks> ffmpeg is not being developed anymore, use avconv instead
[02:05] <Omar> MelRay: awesome, that worked, but how to record my voice ?
[02:06] <Omar> OerHeks: thank you, but how to use It ?
[02:18] <MelRay> Omar: You can try a program called wink if you aren't using 64bit
[02:19] <Omar> even if I'm on a 64bit system, I can run 32bit programms (ia32-libs installed)
[02:20] <MelRay> There is another program called Istanbul also
[02:20] <Omar> but I think the solution of the command line is the best, just need some how to record the voice :)
[02:20] <Omar> istanbult is shit
[02:20] <Omar> it doesn't work :)
[02:20] <MelRay> Some of the links you will find can capture audio as well
[02:21] <Omar> ok, I have to verify my mic then :)
[02:21] <bazhang> Omar, no cursing here
[02:21] <bazhang> !info kazam
[02:21] <bazhang> Omar, ^
[02:21] <Omar> didn't work too
[02:21] <bazhang> sure it does
[02:22] <Omar> I tried every one
[02:22] <bazhang> !work | Omar
[02:22] <Omar> not for me :)
[02:22] <MelRay> Omar: He is asking what is the specific issue with kazam
[02:23] <Omar> I don't remember
[02:23] <bazhang> Omar, saying 'does not work" is vague and no one can help
[02:23] <Omar> but I tried hard with every programm from that list
[02:23] <Omar> one by one
[02:24] <bazhang> Omar, if you don't offer more than "doesn't work" you can expect no help
[02:24] <Omar> one by one It doesn't work, I mean that It has some error, that I searched the solution for very hardly, and I spend nights witout a result :)
[02:25] <bazhang> so give the exact errors for each one
[02:25] <MelRay> Usually a dozen or so apps that "don't work" usually indicates issues other than the app(s)
[02:25] <Omar> and now I'm discussing the command line solution
[02:25] <Omar> using ffmpeg or avconv
[02:25] <Omar> and I have a nice render with It
[02:25] <bazhang> Omar, sounds like hardware in your case if nothing works and you provide NO info at all
[02:25] <Omar> the problem is that I don't know how to record the voice
[02:26] <bazhang> thats not a software problem
[02:26] <Omar> nothing is wrong with the hardwar bazhang
[02:27] <Omar> I told MelRay that FDesktoprecorder worked for me when I was havin 12.04
[02:27] <jedihawk> recommended FTP / SCP client?
[02:27] <Omar> and that I had the same problem in the begining, but I found the solution, but now, I don"t remeber IT
[02:27] <Omar> jedihawk: use dolphin
[02:28] <jedihawk> the filesystem explorer?
[02:28] <Omar> yes
[02:28] <jedihawk> okay, I'll give it a shot. thx.
[02:28] <Omar> no problem :)
[02:29] <MelRay> bazhang: I installed kazam...but it doesn't show up with a gui or anything...is it meant to be used in conjunction with another app?
[02:29] <MelRay> After choosing run kazaqm
[02:29] <MelRay> *kazam*
[02:30] <bazhang> MelRay, then your apps menu needs  a refresh. it's there
[02:30] <MelRay> bazhang: K how do I refresh the menu?
[02:31] <simplew> i cant report bugs iin raring: ERROR: Could not import module, is a package upgrade in progress?  Error: No module named 'DLFCN'
[02:31] <simplew> any hint ?
[02:31] <Omar> bazhang: the kmenu never has to refresh
[02:31] <bazhang> MelRay, either a menu editor, or after a logout/login
[02:31] <MelRay> bazhang: Ok thank you
[02:31] <Omar> MelRay: try to lance It in command line
[02:32] <MelRay> I got it...heheh
[02:32] <MelRay> Gotta roll have a good one...
[02:33] <OerHeks> simplew, join #ubuntu+1 for raring issues
[02:33] <xixor> !java
[02:33] <xixor> !jre
[02:34] <xixor> I take it the default-jre package is the one that you want to install to get a JRE to run java applets in chromium?
[02:34] <OerHeks> !crosspost | simplew
[02:40] <xixor> hm..... something called "icedtea" plugin seemed work.  silly linux
[02:58] <ste_> allo
[02:58] <xixor> hi.
[02:58] <ste_> . o O SaluT / IN
[02:58] <ste_> xixor: hi
[02:58] <ste_> xixor: I am new at IRC
[02:59] <ste_> I just installed Quassel and 've connected
[02:59] <simplew> !seen
[02:59] <simplew> !list
[02:59] <ste_> I donnut installed any script like bsmax script
[02:59] <ste_> is it ok ?
[02:59] <simplew> !h
[02:59] <simplew> !help
[02:59] <simplew> !url
[03:00] <simplew> !mouse
[03:00] <ste_> !mouse
[03:00] <ste_> !patience
[03:00] <ste_> should i install an irc script ?
[03:01] <ste_> where is a good debian irc chan ?
[03:01] <OerHeks> !alis | ste_
[03:02] <ste_> OerHeks: thank you
[03:03] <meshwu> test
[03:06] <xixor> ste_: New at IRC?  Cool.  I've been on irc since 1995
[03:06] <xixor> ste_: the great thing about irc, is that in all that time, it hasn't changed a bit.
[03:15] <bentkus> yeah
[03:15] <bentkus> it works
[03:15] <bentkus> =]
[03:18] <OerHeks> :-)
[03:29] <Obsidian1723> xixor: right on. 1993 for me.
[03:37] <jackies> anyhone here
[03:41] <Obsidian1723> yes
[03:43] <Obsidian1723> Wasx that all you needed? To see if someone was here? Ok. Some one is. Now what?
[03:44] <ste_> nice chann
[03:44] <ste_> see u
[03:44] <ste_> SaluT / OuT O O .
[05:03] <user> msg NickServ identify nicomicro93tobias
[05:04] <OerHeks> user time to change password .. nevermind
[05:19] <muji> hello fellas, i jsut got to reinstall kubuntu again, and can someone help me decrease my mouse sensitivaty?
[05:19] <muji> my touchpad
[05:19] <JimmyJohnny> muji yes, tell your mouse how wonderful it is, build up its self-esteem
[05:20] <muji> i tried that jimmyjohnny, but that didn't work out
[05:20] <muji> lol
[05:20] <JimmyJohnny> :)
[05:20] <muji> but the touchpad touch sensitivaty
[05:48] <muji> hey guys
[05:49] <muji> can i get some help installing the new nvidia driver?
[05:51] <muji> join #ubuntu
[05:51] <muji> hmm
[06:47] <muji> hello guys, how can i see which version of nvidia gpu i have? i jsut tried to install the newest graphics driver, but don't know if it worked or not
[06:48] <DarthFrog> muji: "lspci" will include the graphics chip ID.
[06:48] <muji> DarthFrog: im actually looking for the driver version
[06:48] <DarthFrog> Mine, for example, shows: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 [GeForce GTX 570 HD] (rev a1)
[06:48] <DarthFrog> You asked for GPU identification.
[06:49] <muji> oh oops, my bad i should rephrase that
[06:49] <muji> how can i se which nvidia grpahics driver i have?
[06:49] <DarthFrog> Run "nvidia-settings".
[06:50] <muji> says i'm not using the nvidia x driver
[06:51] <DarthFrog>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you what's going on.
[06:51] <TheLordOfTime> muji, did you install an nvidia driver?
[06:51] <muji> TheLordOfTime: yea i got the neweest one that came out yestarday
[06:53] <TheLordOfTime> but did you install it :P
[06:53] <muji> thats what im trying to find out lol
[06:53] <muji> i went into the alt+ctrl+f1 thing
[06:53] <muji> logged in
[06:53] <muji> and um did chmod +x filename
[06:54] <muji> it was a .run file
[06:55] <muji> unless i was supposed to do sh?
[06:57] <muji> gonna give it another try, wish me luck
[06:58] <TheLordOfTime> was going to say jsut chmodding it isn't enough and you have to execute the .run
[06:58] <TheLordOfTime> but i don't trust .runs anyways
[07:00] <muji> crap, so how do i close xserver? lol
[07:00] <muji> ah nvm
[07:00] <muji> init 3
[07:26] <invariant> Will 12.04.* be able to run 4.9.3?
[07:39] <dennis97519> hi
[08:19] <knuckleduster> what's up dudes/dudettes?
[08:19] <knuckleduster> trying out irc
[08:55] <nicekiwi> how can I make Dolphin look like this? http://draco23hack.deviantart.com/art/Audi-colors-297073099
[09:03] <nicekiwi> sure.. everyones off installing steam :P
[09:06] <lordievader> nicekiwi: Do you know what theme he/she uses?
[09:07] <nicekiwi> Lord_Drachenblut, nope. but a theme cant chnage the structure of Dolphins UI can it?
[09:09] <nicekiwi> lordievader, nope. but a theme cant chnage the structure of Dolphins UI can it?
[09:14] <lordievader> nicekiwi: Nope it is some kind of a theme, download the file that is provided.
[09:16] <nicekiwi> lordievader, there is no file..
[09:17] <nicekiwi> or is there..
[09:17] <lordievader> nicekiwi: http://www.deviantart.com/download/297073099/audi_colors_by_draco23hack-d4wvb2j.zip
[09:18] <nicekiwi> lordievader, its a colour theme. thats ALL. that does NOTHING to the UI of Dolphin apart form maybe colouring it
[09:19] <nicekiwi> lordievader, does Dolphin in that picture look like stock dolphin? All the buttons are in different places or hidden etc
[09:19] <lordievader> nicekiwi: No, I have to agree to that.
[09:19] <nicekiwi> Indeed, ive seen ppl do that before.. but have no idea how
[09:20] <lordievader> nicekiwi: Perhaps a good idea to ask him?
[09:20] <nicekiwi> yeah, i think so
[09:23] <lordievader> Brb, things are failing around me, got to reboot.
[09:29] <lordievader> Back.
[09:30] <nicekiwi> yay
[09:32] <lordievader> Firewall killed my nfs link, dolphin didn't like that, and therefore kde refused to do anything anymore.
[09:42] <Kalidarn> i've actually had that happen with sshfs
[09:42] <Kalidarn> found that killing the ssh service fixed it
[09:44] <lordievader> Forgot to add those machines that use the nfs to the list.
[09:50] <Smurphy> Hmmm. So far 4.9.3 rules nicely ...
[10:16] <aymen_> hi
[10:17] <an1> Hey. I want to open a lot of c, py and txt files in one go in kate. They are hierarchically stored in subfolders. Can someone help me open them all in 1 go? Im trying for something like {ls -R | kate}. also, i want to exclude the .git directory while doing this.
[10:28] <nicekiwi> lordievader, seems u can configure stock dolphin to look like that
[10:29] <lordievader> nicekiwi: Ok good to know, but how?
[10:30] <nicekiwi> if you right click it, you can unlock it and drag it to the side then just click again and select show icon only
[10:30] <hateball> an1: you will want to use a for loop
[10:31] <nicekiwi> lordievader, u can also set the position though the same right click menu.
[10:32] <hateball> an1: http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_09_01.html has some decent examples. otherwise you can try #bash
[10:32] <an1> hateball: thank you!!
[10:33] <lordievader> nicekiwi: I see, ok thank you for letting me know :)
[10:34] <nicekiwi> :) no worries.
[10:36] <hateball> an1: actually... there is a plugin in kate for doing this :p
[10:37] <hateball> an1: go into preferences, plugin called "file system view" or such. granted it doesnt search recursively but easy way to open all files in one dir
[10:39] <hateball> an1: actually... it even does recursive :>
[10:39] <an1> hateball: oh that works! pretty much what i wanted. i was halfway through writing by script :P
[10:39] <an1> Thank you!
[10:40] <hateball> not sure if you can use a filter in the filter view tho, to exclude .git
[10:40] <hateball> folder view*
[10:40] <an1> thats ok. Only think was kate gives a lot of warnings while trying to open the binary files under git folder. Thats what i wanted to avoid. otherwise its a hidden folder anyways
[10:41] <hateball> nah... if you drag a folder it will still open everything below, regardless of filter
[10:42] <hateball> oh well
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:50] <invariant> Is there a 'K' counterpart of openoffice calc/gnumeric?
[11:51] <invariant> Will 12.04.* be able to run 4.9.3?
[12:01] <jedihawk> anyone awake in heres?
[12:06] <BluesKaj> jedihawk, nope , still asleep :)
[12:06] <jedihawk> BluesKaj: :-)
[12:06] <jedihawk> I couldn't sleep, so I thought I'd get something done.
[12:07] <jedihawk> had a dumb question about why my monitors turn off after five mins or so.  do you know why this happens?
[12:07] <BluesKaj> which kubuntu version jedihawk?
[12:08] <jedihawk> 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:32:08 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[12:08] <Peace-> hi buddies
[12:10] <BluesKaj> hi Peace-
[12:11] <BluesKaj> jedihawk, that looks like the latest 12.10 kernel
[12:11] <jedihawk> yup, but I made a mistake and didn't install the 64-bit version.  [forehead smack]  I'll probably re-install later on (again).
[12:14] <lordievader> jedihawk: How much ram do you got installed?
[12:14] <jedihawk> Lord_Drachenblut: 4G
[12:14] <jedihawk> which used to be a lot.
[12:15] <BluesKaj> jedihawk, I had the same problem but setting the screensaver to 180 mins in system settings>display & monitor seems to have worked here ..power management is basically disabled here as well
[12:15] <lordievader> jedihawk: Ah yes then you do want to get the 64-bit version.
[12:16] <jedihawk> ohh, setting it higher rather than turning it off?  never thought of that.  I'll try it...
[12:17] <BluesKaj> jedihawk, but I'm on desktop , so laptops are a diferent story
[12:18] <jedihawk> sure.  I'm on a desktop machine.
[12:23] <san> Hi Guys
[12:23] <san> i need one help
[12:24] <san> instead of kubuntu normal desktop with widgets i want the simple desktop with icons
[12:24] <san> is there anyway to do this
[12:25] <Peace-> san: sure
[12:25] <san> Peace Can u please tell me how to do this?
[12:25] <Peace-> san: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopQJa356.png
[12:26] <Peace-> san: right click on desktop => destop=settings => search and launch
[12:27] <san> yes Peace i did that
[12:28] <san> but now its opening tablet interface
[12:28] <hateball> isnt "folder view" a "simple desktop"
[12:28] <hateball> afaik
[12:28] <Peace-> san: ah sorry
[12:28] <Peace-> san: yes instead of searcha nd lauch you need to use folderview
[12:28] <san> ok.. let me try
[12:28] <Peace-> that's all
[12:29] <san> yes now its working
[12:30] <san> one more thing.. i want to use nautilus for desktop icons
[12:31] <san> i have changed my icons but in desktop its not showing those icons
[12:32] <Peace-> nautilus ?
[12:33] <san> yes
[12:33] <Peace-> dolphin is far better than nautilus anyway if you want use nautilus to open folders i guess you need to go on file associations
[12:33] <Peace-> in systemsettings
[12:34] <Peace-> san: or just search this http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopm31619.png
[12:34] <san> ok.. will try it.. Thanks Peace
[12:34] <Peace-> san: then set what you like http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopc31619.png i have dolphin
[12:48] <Syria> Hello !! My network printers status is paused? how can I change that please?
[12:52] <Peace-> Syria: open your browser
[12:53] <Peace-> Syria: http://localhost:631/printers/
[12:53] <Peace-> Syria: select your printer
[12:53] <Syria> Peace-: Then?
[12:54] <Peace-> Syria: for example here i can handle my printer http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopn31619.png
[12:55] <Peace-> Syria: i have my printer in idle mode but i can pause it so you should be able to put your printer in your prefered mode http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopV31619.png
[12:59] <Syria> sorry lost the connection.
[13:01] <Peace-> Syria: you did it ?
[13:01] <Peace-> Syria: did you get this ? http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopV31619.png
[13:01] <Peace-> ?
[13:01] <Syria> Peace-:  One moment please, I will try it.
[13:04] <Syria> Peace-:  The printer status has changed into "Idle" , After resuming it.
[13:04] <Peace-> Syria: so it should work
[13:04] <Syria> Peace-:  I will test it. One moment please.
[13:06] <Syria> Peace-: It works! :D
[13:06] <Syria> Peace-:  Thnx buddy.
[13:06] <Peace-> Syria: :)
[13:06] <Syria> Peace-: May I know what is the name of the theme that you are using?
[13:06] <Peace-> Syria: plasma theme ?
[13:07] <Syria> Peace-: Yes.
[13:07] <Peace-> Syria: icon is kfaenza , plasma theme is my own that is called nowardev , panels layout is my own layout that is nowardev double panel
[13:08] <Syria> Peace-:  http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/nowardev+theme+dark+wallpaper?content=142058 <<< this one right?
[13:09] <Peace-> Syria: nope that is my first version it's this http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopC32072.png
[13:22] <Syria> Peace-: How Can I add that double panel please?
[13:22] <Peace-> Syria: have you 12.04 or 12.10?
[13:23] <Syria> Peace-: 12.10
[13:24] <Peace-> Syria: this is my own debian package that i did of my little software , you need to know that with gnome3 layout you could get plasma-crash . anyway it will run again and the you can even use gnome3 layout
[13:24] <Peace-> Syria: do you want anyway ?
[13:25] <Peace-> if yes you can download this https://launchpad.net/~nowardev/+archive/ppa/+files/plasma-panels-collection_2.0.2-1ubuntu0~ppa1_all.deb
[13:26] <Syria> Peace-: Yes I like its idea and I am not using gnome3.
[13:27] <Peace-> Syria: ok install that package and then you can use what you want right click on the desktop => add panel =>Nowardev double panel  =>  http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/07/plasma-desktopw32072.png
[13:30] <Syria> Peace-:  Downloading dependencies....
[13:30] <Peace-> Syria: yes  you need widgets
[13:37] <Syria> Peace-:  It works thank you :)
[13:37] <Peace-> Syria: good
[13:37] <Syria> Peace-: I like it. Good job.
[13:37] <Peace-> Syria: you can do it as you like
[13:38] <Peace-> Syria: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAB1whqH9n8
[13:47] <yossarianuk> got a few bugs with Kubuntu on my netbook - (I have various desktops and they are all fine)
[13:47] <yossarianuk> i.e - the default netbook settings (which are automatically enabled on the netbook) are unusable
[13:48] <yossarianuk> there are crashes and after a few mins am I unable to launch any app
[13:48] <yossarianuk> if I change the netbook to use the standard desktop (workspace behaviour)
[13:48] <noaXess> hey all
[13:49] <yossarianuk> its fine - unless I change *any* setting in desktop effects, no matter what setting I change the system is unusable until I rm -rf .kde and restart
[13:49] <noaXess> is there a plasmoid for tracking times on projects, like ktimetracker does?
[13:49] <yossarianuk> (this only effects my netbook which is ryunning intergrated intel graphics)
[13:50] <yossarianuk> nvidia desktops are 100% fine (in fact kubuntu 12.10 is possibly the best I have ran - with the exception of arch)
[13:51] <tsimpson> yossarianuk: you should report bugs on launchpad so the developers can track them
[14:01] <yossarianuk> tsimpson - will do
[14:02] <yossarianuk> (need to wait until I get home so I have my netbook..
 trying to not swear here ..... how do i keep my desktop settings after playing a fullscreen game?  i'm running dual desktop, and fullscreen games TOTALLY bork my settings ... i have to log out and back in to get my desktop back <grrrrrrrr> EXTREMELY <grrrrrrrrr>
[14:37] <Peace-> artao: this is due to game
[14:37] <artao> and it's NOT the graphics card
[14:38] <artao> no. this is due to the window manager
[14:38] <Peace-> i have discuss this with aseigo
[14:38] <artao> if it's due to the game, then it's EVERY game
[14:38] <Peace-> with urban terror i got very weird behavior with panels
[14:38] <artao> it happened when i had an ATI card, and it still happens with an nvidia card
[14:39] <Peace-> artao: join on #kde
[14:39] <artao> yeah, it was UrT i jsut came out of ... but it happens with speed dreams, torc, fliight gear, etc
[14:39] <Peace-> ask in that place it should be present one of kwin devs
[14:39] <artao> mmk
[14:39] <Peace-> artao: btw without games you should just run well
[14:40] <artao> whut?
[14:40] <Peace-> artao: i don't remember well but games sets X stuff and then they doesn't turn back the settings
[14:40] <artao> hmm
[14:40] <Peace-> that's the problem i think to remember
[14:40] <artao> i now remember why i stopped gaming under linux .. and dual boot win 7
[14:41] <Peace-> anyway if you find the kwin devs you should get some tricks
[14:41] <artao> anyhow, i need to log out-in now
[14:42] <Peace-> artao: this man is the kwin dev http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/
[14:42] <Peace-> artao: you can contact him
[14:42] <Peace-> artao: or just report a bug in the kde bug report website
[14:43] <Peace-> artao: here https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided
[16:13] <ozzzy> well... kubuntu is working better now it appears
[16:17] <ovidiu-florin> hello, my Run Command program froze, how can I restart it?
[16:40] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, kdesudo krunner
[16:40] <BluesKaj> in the terminal
[16:41] <Anonymous_> hello
[16:41] <Anonymous_> ??
[16:41] <BluesKaj> !ask
[16:43] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: thank's
[16:44] <ovidiu-florin> I've killed it, ansd started it , but it won't show up on alt+F2
[16:45] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, right click on the desktop , choose run command ..try that
[16:46] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: thank's it works now
[16:47] <ozzzy> how do I get rid of that annoying glow around the active window
[16:47] <BluesKaj> yeah, ovidiu-florin , that command is the way i usually call krunner
[16:49] <BluesKaj> ozzzy, system-settings>workspace appearance , one of the settings there might be it
[16:53] <ozzzy> BluesKaj, tks
[16:53] <ozzzy> man that was annoying
[16:56] <WineQQ_> hi@all  some question to you guys:  I installed kubuntu 12.04 a while ago and now ,for gaming, i installed win7 in a seperated partition i just  created. After that i repaired grub bootloader with the kubuntu install cd  .. and now my stupid question: How can i start win7 ? ...because after repairing grub  linux shows up as usual but i have no option to choose from
[16:58] <tsimpson> WineQQ_: I believe you have to hold down left shift, or sometimes escape, while booting for the grub menu to show, it's hidden by default until you press one of those keys
[16:59] <Arjuna> WineQQ there is a package kde-config-grub2 with this you can try to edit grub menu the grafical way the options are in kde syssettings and there the boot or start(dont know englishh name)
[17:00] <BluesKaj> WineQQ_,once in kubuntu , open a terminal and run sudo os-prober , then sudo update-grub
[17:01] <WineQQ_> ok thanks so far guys , tsimpsons solution seems the easiest (as the others are not that difficult to manage to), but does it work ?
[17:02] <tsimpson> try it and see, remember to try both. if it doesn't work, come back and try the other options given
[17:04] <WineQQ_> yeah ;D got u  ... so thank u all guys u are great :)
[17:07] <Arjuna> i have a very big problem i updated last night from 12.04 to 12.10 and after reboot x server with kde doesnt start, it looks like a crash at kdm start but sometimes i get the konsole login message an can log in and work untill i try ctrl+alt+F7 then i cant go back to tty1, have also 2 kernel version available 33 and 2? and the 12.04 boot is also available but none of this options work, graphic driver is some version from amd page for hd radeon
[17:07] <lordievader> Arjuna: You did a manual install of the AMD/ATI driver?
[17:07] <Arjuna> yes
[17:08] <Arjuna> package creation failed sadly
[17:08] <lordievader> Arjuna: There is your problem, manual installed drivers usually break with a kernel upgrade. Try reinstalling the driver.
[17:09] <Arjuna> doesnt work not even with --force
[17:09] <Arjuna> tried this already was also my first thought
[17:09] <Arjuna> can have a look in install log and try to tell here
[17:10] <lordievader> Arjuna: What card do you have in your system?
[17:10] <Arjuna> hd radeon x3820 x2
[17:11] <lordievader> Arjuna: Hmm same series as my hd3850.. legacy nowadays. I couldn't get the driver to work in 12.10.
[17:12] <Arjuna> oh that would be very bad
[17:13] <Arjuna> which driver do you use aktually
[17:13] <lordievader> Arjuna: Got to eat, there is probably someone who can assist you in this, good luck.
[17:13] <lordievader> Arjuna: Now the open-source radeon driver, I believe.
[17:13] <Arjuna> ok thanks and good hunger
[17:16] <Arjuna> ok if this is also my prob how to uninstall the legacy driver which isnt installed via dpkg packages
[17:17] <Arjuna> ok got two cmds will try first be back surly
[17:18] <Arjuna> andf if anyone ideas i would be very happy
[17:30] <Arjuna> f....... uninstall seems to work forgot sadly that the default resolution from EDID doesnt work so i have on all tty inculding the x "out of range" is there a shortcut
[17:30] <Arjuna> to change
[17:31] <DarthFrog> Arjuna: You should check the docs with that ATI driver.  I suspect that they've stopped supporting your old card.  You'll be better served by using the radeon driver.
[17:33] <Arjuna> at the amd page there is a driver for my series that also worked fine(only watermark) on 12.04
[17:33] <DarthFrog> "dpkg --list | grep fglrx"  should tell you what's installed.
[17:34] <Arjuna> yes i had a picture
[17:34] <Arjuna> +if
[17:34] <DarthFrog> Whatever that means.
[17:35] <Arjuna> my monitor say "out of range"
[17:37] <Arjuna> i previously removed the fglrx and the manual installed fglrx and now default resolution has change to undisplayable one
[17:38] <Arjuna> now i cant do anything without another monitor
[17:38] <Arjuna> which i need atm to write here
[17:39] <DarthFrog> Press "CTL-ALT-F1" to switch to a virtual terminal and type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon"
[17:39] <DarthFrog> Then reboot.
[17:39] <Arjuna> tty 1-6 also in wrong res but will try to type blind
[17:41] <DarthFrog> No, don't.  Just reboot, then try again.
[17:41] <Arjuna> reboot ghives me every tie wrong resolution
[17:42] <Arjuna> tje=time
[17:44] <Arjuna> ok be right back have to kidnap my wifes monitor to install radeon driver and set default res in xorg
[17:50] <scorpking> is there an alternate image for kubuntu 12.10 or am I missing something? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/12.10/release/
[17:51] <Peace-> mm
[17:51] <Peace-> scorpking: wait
[17:52] <scarface> hello everybody...
[17:52] <scarface> how are you gui's ?
[17:52] <scorpking> Peace-: wait, google, view HTML source = same results ;)
[17:53]  * scorpking needs to put kubuntu on an old machine..
[17:53] <Peace-> i have 13.04 alternate xD
[17:53] <Peace->  i need to find the 12.10 version
[17:55] <Peace-> scorpking: mmm i guess that the alternate image is included on the normal version read here http://www.kubuntu.org/news/12.10-release
[17:56] <Peace-> scorpking: because of i install always alphas i am not pretty sure
[17:56] <scorpking> Peace-: thanks
[17:56] <Quintasan> Peace-: We have dropped alternate iso images
[17:57] <Quintasan> As for reasons why
[17:57] <scorpking> Quintasan: is there a way to disable gui install?
[17:57] <Peace-> well i use the mini cd :D
[17:57] <Peace-> scorpking: just download the mini stuff iso
[17:57] <Quintasan> I can think of not enough people to test isos and small number of users AFAIR
[17:57] <Quintasan> yofel: ^ any input on that?
[17:57] <Peace-> scorpking: then when you get the terminal you can do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktopp
[17:58] <scorpking> Peace-: that is good unless you donwload at 20KB/s like today
[17:58] <Peace-> Quintasan: here btw there is alternate but IT'S 13.04 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/
[17:58] <Quintasan> Peace-: oh, no idea why it is ther
[17:59] <scorpking> anyways, thanks guys.. i'll mange :)
[18:00] <scorpking> manage*
[18:00] <yofel> for the reason as Quintasan said, and yeah, you'll have to use the mini.iso
[18:00] <scorpking> i'll setup a local repo first. maybe that woulds speed things up
[18:01]  * scorpking goes off to grap the 12.10 apt-mirror repos..
[18:03] <lordievader> Arjuna: Hey you still around, how is it going with your ATI/AMD problem?
[18:05] <MySystem> yeah i have my kde back
[18:10] <MySystem> lots of thx to all who helped me(as Arjuna) fix this now i only have to get fglrx working and set default resolution
[18:11] <lordievader> MySystem: Oh hey you are Arjuna? How did you get the driver working?
[18:12] <MySystem> not realy Arjuna is my wife *smile* and i dont get the driver working yet i plugged the monitor from my wife and installed radeon driver then reboot res set and here i am
[18:13] <lordievader> MySystem: Ah ok, so you followed the same path I did. Remove the driver and use the open-source radeon driver ;)
[18:14] <MySystem> for first yes to see if anything else is working since update now i try to get the legacy working
[18:21] <MelRay> ubottu:
[18:25] <MelRay> I'm looking to learn and understand the process of updating the kernel. I usually see a command mkinit ldconfig, etc. Where can I get an overview of the procedural steps to follow when dealing with updating the kernel?
[18:31] <MySystem> how is the kernel dev package named (3.2.0-33)
[18:33] <MySystem> oh sry need the source package
[18:35] <SIR_Taco> MelRay: you're looking to build/compile your own kernel?
[18:36] <MySystem> no hope amd driver will do this for me
[18:36] <MelRay> SIR_Taco: Eventually yes...but I want to know up front what all the different steps are to get to that point...
[18:39] <SIR_Taco> MelRay: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile    (I only know what they're calling the "Old Fashioned Debian Way", but that looks like a pretty good resource for you to start)
[18:39] <MelRay> SIR_Taco: Ok thanks for the assist!
[18:40] <SIR_Taco> and there are links for additional documentation at the bottom of that
[18:40] <SIR_Taco> you're welcome
[19:10]  * ozzzy is starting to get the hang of kubuntu
[19:10] <xixor> oh yeah?
[19:10]  * DarthFrog welcomes ozzzy to the Light Side of The Force.
[19:10] <xixor> wait, I thought linux was the dark side?
[19:10] <ozzzy> have to try to forget the mandriva stuff
[19:12] <DarthFrog> ozzzy:  "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[19:12] <DarthFrog> That'll update your system to the latest 'n greatest KDE SC, which has just been released.
[19:12] <ozzzy> in a minute
[19:15]  * ozzzy is ranting because xdvdshrink isn't in the repositories
[19:15] <ozzzy> can I install from an rpm in this distro
[19:15] <yofel> usually no
[19:15] <DarthFrog> ozzzy:  Try k9copy
[19:16] <yofel> there is 'alien' which can try to convert a package though. Use at your own risk
[19:16] <ozzzy> I have... and I do use it
[19:16] <ozzzy> LOL
[19:17] <MelRay> Just compile and install that way...
[19:18] <ozzzy> nothing to compile... I can repackage
[19:19] <DarthFrog> ozzzy:  Ha!  I just Googled for xdvdshrink.  You're the developer!  You can make your own deb file. :-)
[19:19] <DarthFrog> Hmm, last updated 2007.  A wee bit stale, no?
[19:21] <Robtygart> ozzzy: is that based of the windows DVD shrink?
[19:24] <Shura_> Hi, i have an error when i go to systemsettings → Localization → System language (something related to language-selector.py)
[19:24] <Robtygart> http://www.dvdshrink.org/what_en.php
[19:24] <Shura_> And some apps are not translated
[19:26] <yofel> Shura_: go to country/region & language and add your language to the preferred languages
[19:26] <Shura_> Already done
[19:26] <yofel> language-selector is broken in quantal
[19:26] <Shura_> I see…
[19:26] <yofel> which application isn't translated? and which language?
[19:26] <Shura_> amarok
[19:27] <Shura_> (no french available)
[19:27] <yofel> ah, that's an amaork issue. The french translations weren't done for the Amarok 2.6 release and weren't shipped
[19:27] <yofel> they'll be back in 2.7
[19:27] <Shura_> skanlite too
[19:28] <Shura_> Oh ok
[19:28] <yofel> as for skanlite, hm...
[19:28] <Shura_> jockey-kde
[19:28] <Shura_> And some others i guess
[19:30] <Shura_> All of them were translated in precise
[19:31] <ozzzy> hehe
[19:31] <ozzzy> it was repackaged for deb back in the day.... was available for all the rpm distros, deb and whatever lindows used
[19:31] <yofel> there was some restructuring in quantal which resulted in a different handling of translations
[19:32] <yofel> (language-selector is a different issue though)
[19:32] <Shura_> ok ok
[19:32] <Shura_> thanks for the news, i'll wait
[19:32] <yofel> and some things seem to still be broken :/
[19:32] <ozzzy> Robtygart: no... when I wrote it there was no 'shrinker' around... it's written in PERL and BASH and is basically a front-end for the several disparate utilities needed to make dvds
[19:33] <yofel> skanlite seems to be a bug
[19:33] <DarthFrog> ozzzy: You can have your own PPA for your projects in Kubuntu.
[19:33] <DarthFrog> !ppa | ozzzy
[19:33] <ozzzy> I don't write much for linux anymore.... mostly I'm writing firmware for our products
[19:34] <DarthFrog> ozzzy: Still a PPA will make it easy to distribute them to K/Ubuntu.
[19:34] <ozzzy> I had a 'poorman's PVR'... a regex-based music player... xdvdshrink and a few utilities I wrote for myself
[19:34] <Robtygart> ozzzy: that is really cool, I just downloaded it,.
[19:34] <ozzzy> hey... if it works wonderful... I haven't done any maintenance in a few years
[19:36] <Robtygart> I am going to need to read the  Documentation
[19:36] <Robtygart> Thanks
[19:38] <Robtygart> ozzzy: if I google your name "Ozzzy" Will I come up with any more of your programs?
[19:42] <ozzzy> Robtygart: probably not
[19:46] <alessio_> lol
[19:46] <alessio_> ciao
[20:01] <ozzzy> rekonq seems pretty good
[20:26] <DarthFrog> ozzzy: rekonq is a version of Konqueror using Webkit.
[20:27] <DarthFrog> instead of khtml.
[20:27] <DarthFrog> I believe (but don't know) Webkit is Apple's enhanced version of khtml.
[20:48] <ozzzy> damn... cinepaint isn't available
[20:51] <Robtygart> ozzzy: is cinepaint-resources the same? In the package manager.
[20:51] <ozzzy> Robtygart: dunno... lemme check
[20:53] <ozzzy> don't see it
[20:53] <Robtygart> odd
[20:53] <oy> ozzzy, try krita?
[20:54] <ozzzy> yeah... it's pretty basic
[20:54] <Robtygart> when I type cinepaint-resources it gives me create-resources. Sorry I read that wrong
[20:54] <ozzzy> and the gimp still only works at 8-bit
[20:55] <oy> krita is good with 16-bit + HDR painting
[23:28] <robtygart> It sure is quiet here. Thats a good sign right?
[23:29] <OerHeks> hi robtygart, sure it is, less questions, less problems.
[23:29] <robtygart> lol just shows how great Kubuntu is.
[23:31] <ablyss> yup
[23:47] <MySystem> did anybody know why installation via deb packages for old amd/ati graphic drivers fail on 12.10 while make (my first thought did the build in compiler change or update but dont know )


[08:56] <rodrigo_> morning
[09:27] <htorque> good morning, everyone! why would re-compiling current dbusmenu succeed on one natty system but fail on a second one with: http://paste.ubuntu.com/553528/ ?
[09:27] <htorque> ("current" meaning the one in natty, not upstream trunk)
[09:57] <rodrigo_> htorque, you seem to be missing glib's introspection package (gir*glib*)
[10:01] <htorque> rodrigo_: it's installed (gir1.2-glib-2.0)
[10:04] <rodrigo_> htorque, you need to specify it then when calling vapigen?
[10:06] <htorque> rodrigo_: i simply did a 'apt-get build-dep ...', 'apt-get source ...', 'cd ...', and 'debuild -us -uc' - shouldn't this alone work (it does on a second system)?
[10:49] <rodrigo_> htorque, yes, it should afaik
[10:53] <htorque> rodrigo_: i just thought i was missing something obvious - if not, i better reinstall this system :-)
[10:53] <rodrigo_> htorque, no need to reinstall, it's surely some missing package that is not pulled correctly as dependency
[10:54] <htorque> rodrigo_: yeah, that's the last thing i'll check (comparing the working system's packages to the one on this machine). anyways, thanks for your help! :-)
[10:55] <rodrigo_> np, and sorry for not knowing exactly what's missing :)
[10:55] <rodrigo_> but it looks to me like it's a gir* package
[10:58] <xclaesse> gnome3 ppa is not being updated anymore? :(
[10:59]  * xclaesse would appreciate the latest gnome-keyring, as it is needed to build empathy
[12:57] <rodrigo_> xclaesse, it is, I just submitted a couple of packages
[12:57] <rodrigo_> xclaesse, what are you missing?
[12:58] <xclaesse> rodrigo_, latest gnome-keyring :)
[12:58] <rodrigo_> xclaesse, already there, maybe you're using the old PPA?
[12:59] <rodrigo_> xclaesse, https://edge.launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3
[12:59] <rodrigo_> is that the one you're using?
[12:59] <xclaesse> rodrigo_, oooh that explain it
[12:59] <xclaesse> rodrigo_, didn't know the ppa changed, that's why there were no update last month
[12:59] <rodrigo_> yeah, it was moved to anbother ppa during xmas
[12:59] <xclaesse> rodrigo_, thanks :D
[13:00] <rodrigo_> np, let me know if you need anything else
[13:00] <rodrigo_> I'm about to start packaging stuff that is not on the ppa, so I don't mind one or the other :)
[13:14] <xclaesse> rodrigo_, ok I'll let you know if needed. But for now I think we have the needed bits
[13:14] <xclaesse> thx
[13:14] <rodrigo_> ok
[13:54] <ari-tczew> I've requested merge of a few branches. looking forward.
[14:39] <bcurtiswx> xclaesse, I can build the latest empathy fine from source, the problem I'm having is with our patches for the indicator applet.. that i'm still waiting for some expert advice
[14:39] <bcurtiswx> once thats finished empathy will go into the GNOME3 PPA
[14:41] <xclaesse> bcurtiswx, FYI we maintain our telepathy ppa: https://launchpad.net/~telepathy/+archive/telepathy-devel
[14:41] <bcurtiswx> xclaesse, yup , I know :)
[14:56] <xclaesse> rodrigo_, FYI natty is still missing GTK 2.99.0 to build empathy
[14:56] <xclaesse> the rest is fine
[15:03] <rodrigo_> xclaesse, yes, working on it
[15:28] <mterry> sladen, do you know anything about svg icons being shrunk at build time?  Or is that pitti?
[15:28] <pitti> mterry: that'd be me
[15:28] <mterry> pitti, it's screwing up the Deja Dup icon
[15:28] <pitti> mterry: where are you right now?
[15:29] <mterry> pitti, DX Foundations room on floor 3
[15:29] <pitti> ah
[15:29] <pitti> mterry: mind if I come down for a bit?
[15:29] <mterry> pitti, no, please
[15:37] <sladen> mterry: the SVG abuse is pitti's.  But if it wasn't him, it'd be me so if it's not working it needs to be fixed and affected packages re-built
[15:46] <mterry> sladen, yeah, I found a bug, but I'll just file it and see what happens before I fix the package
[15:58] <sladen> mterry: it'd be good to diagnose it; the same parsing issue might (will likely) have affected other images in other rebuilt packages
[15:58] <pitti> sladen: right, we just talked about this
[15:59] <mterry> sladen, yar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/scour/+bug/702423
[15:59] <pitti> the upstream scour guys are very responsive
[15:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 702423 in scour (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Scour corrupts deja-dup.svg (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[16:00] <pitti> mterry: thanks, sub'ed
[16:18] <jcastro> chrisccoulson: where do people report bugs on the extension?
[16:19] <chrisccoulson> jcastro - https://bugs.launchpad.net/globalmenu-extension/+filebug should be fine
[16:20] <jcastro> chrisccoulson: how's this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21373/how-can-i-get-firefox-to-work-with-the-application-menu
[16:21] <chrisccoulson> jcastro - yeah, looks good. users might need to restart their session too, so that unity picks up the new dbusmenu
[16:21] <jcastro> it worked for me without a restarty
[16:22] <jcastro> chrisccoulson: ok, I'll whip up a blog post and then also ping the tbird list
[16:22] <chrisccoulson> excellent, thanks
[16:22] <chrisccoulson> i'm currently working on making it work with tb3.1 (it works with the 3.3 alpha builds already)
[16:23] <rodrigo_> robert_ancell, ping
[16:25] <robert_ancell> rodrigo_, hey, just wondering where you are
[16:25] <rodrigo_> robert_ancell, at home, didn't go to dallas because of some family stuff
[16:26] <rodrigo_> robert_ancell, having fun?
[16:26] <robert_ancell> rodrigo_, as much fun as you can have in dallas :)
[16:26] <rodrigo_> heh
[16:26] <rodrigo_> no Hooters there? :)
[16:26] <robert_ancell> heh :)
[16:27] <dobey> heh
[16:27] <rodrigo_> robert_ancell, anyway, wanted to tell you 2 things, 1 one is that I'm packaging gtk3 2.99.2, just in case you were planning to
[16:27] <rodrigo_> robert_ancell, and the 2nd, about The Board, Lucas told me about your initial work
[16:28] <robert_ancell> rodrigo_, make sure you merge from the debian gtk+ package
[16:28] <rodrigo_> robert_ancell, oh, how do I do that? (part from getting the debian package by hand, any "automagic" way?
[16:28] <rodrigo_> hey seb128
[16:29] <seb128> hey rodrigo_
[16:29] <seb128> how are you?
[16:29] <rodrigo_> seb128, fine, although missing the sprint action :-)
[16:29] <robert_ancell> rodrigo_, just by hand
[16:29] <rodrigo_> robert_ancell, ok, although I have my package almost done :(
[16:29]  * rodrigo_ looks
[16:30] <robert_ancell> rodrigo_, the main thing is the script -3.0 suffixes so we match them
[16:30] <rodrigo_> oh, ok, will diff both now
[16:30] <seb128> rodrigo_, we should check what debian is doing before starting
[16:30] <rodrigo_> well, where do I get the debian packages from?
[16:30] <rodrigo_> seb128, right, although that's true for some packages and not for others, right?
[16:31] <seb128> no, we usually want to base our work on theirs
[16:31] <seb128> there is no point to redoing the work
[16:31] <seb128> http://packages.qa.debian.org/common/index.html
[16:31] <seb128> http://packages.qa.debian.org/<source>
[16:31] <rodrigo_> hmm, I see a lot of our packages don't have anything about merging from debian
[16:32] <seb128> http://lists.debian.org/debian-changes/
[16:32] <seb128> if you want a list to track the changes
[16:32] <seb128> rodrigo_, well things like gsettings-desktop-schemas can just be synced
[16:32] <seb128> or gnome-desktop3
[16:33] <seb128> we also want to check what they do to not divert on binary names etc
[16:33] <rodrigo_> oh, btw talking about g-desktop3 -> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gnome-desktop/2_91_6_release/+merge/46116
[16:33] <rodrigo_> can someone merge and upload it?
[16:34] <seb128> rodrigo_, let me check
[16:34] <seb128> debian did the update
[16:34] <seb128> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gnome-desktop3/gnome-desktop3_2.91.6-1.dsc
[16:34] <seb128> rodrigo_, I think we can just sync from them
[16:36] <rodrigo_> ok, debian has gtk3 2.99.1
[16:48] <robert_ancell> bigon, hey, can you do the clutter-gtk sync or do you want me to do it
[16:48] <bigon> I can upload it to universe but I dunno what to do for it going to mail
[16:49] <ricotz> robert_ancell, hi :), an update of clutter itself  to 1.5.12 would be nice
[16:50] <robert_ancell> ricotz, I just uploaded it
[16:50] <ricotz> robert_ancell, great!
[16:50] <robert_ancell> bigon, oh right, requestsync confused me, I thought it was in Universe
[16:52] <robert_ancell> bigon, pitti is syncing clutter-gtk now
[16:53] <chrisccoulson> jcastro, i've got firefox working without the double title-bar now (thanks to didrocks)
[16:53] <jcastro> chrisccoulson: I get that with a bunch of apps actually
[16:55] <bigon> robert_ancell: great, thx
[17:35] <seb128> rodrigo_, do you work on the gtk update?
[17:35] <rodrigo_> seb128, yes, have already rebased all patches, but doesn't build yet
[17:35] <rodrigo_> seb128, why?
[17:36] <seb128> rodrigo_, because the new gnome-desktop3 seems to require it?
[17:36] <rodrigo_> oh
[17:37] <rodrigo_> hmm, it built fine here without the latest gtk
[17:38] <seb128> rodrigo_, ok, dunno why the debian guys updated the requirement then
[17:39] <rodrigo_> maybe it indeed needs it at runtime
[17:39] <rodrigo_> I'll do some tests here
[17:48] <rodrigo_> seb128, ah, the debian package depends on 2.99.1?
[17:49] <seb128> rodrigo_, yeah but I just asked them, they did it to ensure it built with a version of gtk which has the backend renaming done
[17:49] <rodrigo_> ah, right
[17:52] <bcurtiswx_> rodrigo_, seb128, xclaesse was saying earlier that empathy 2.91.5 requires 2.99.1 so I have to wait for it as well
[17:53] <xclaesse> bcurtiswx_, for empathy master, yes. But latest release uses 2.91.6
[17:54] <bcurtiswx_> xclaesse, ah OK thx
[18:14] <rodrigo_> xclaesse, bcurtiswx: I have my branch almost ready, but failing to build, so if you want to help, I can push it
[18:15] <bcurtiswx_> rodrigo_, not sure I'd be much help, but push and I'll see what I can do
[18:17] <rodrigo_> $ bzr push --remember lp:~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gtk/2_99_2_release
[18:17] <rodrigo_> bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gtk/2_99_2_release": No such source package gtk
[18:17] <rodrigo_> what's the correct source package name?
[18:17] <micahg> gtk+3.0?
[18:18] <rodrigo_> hmm, didn't seem to work neither
[18:18]  * rodrigo_ retries
[18:18] <micahg> rodrigo_: yep, gtk+3.0
[18:18] <rodrigo_> bcurtiswx: pushing to lp:~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gtk+3.0/2_99_2_release
[18:19] <bigon> robert_ancell: for mutter I think you have missed part of my patch (looking at bzr branch)
[18:19] <rodrigo_> I need to go now for a while though, so if you have a fix, propose a branch or just send a patch, or if not, I'll continue fixing it later
[18:19] <rodrigo_> bbl
[18:20] <robert_ancell> bigon, we synced with debian, so the branch is out of date
[18:20] <bigon> oh
[18:20] <bigon> alright
[18:21] <bcurtiswx_> rodrigo_, OK will do, cya
[18:23] <bcurtiswx_> how do I build w/o signing
[18:25] <ricotz> robert_ancell, shouldnt libclutter-1.0-0 depend on libclutter-1.0-common?
[18:26] <robert_ancell> ricotz, yes, I'll tell pochu
[18:27] <ricotz> ok
[18:50] <xclaesse> looks like there is something broken with libwebkit in natty
[18:51] <xclaesse> libwebkit->libwebkitgtk transition issue probably
[18:59] <bcurtiswx_> xclaesse, yes, for now I have just disabled it.  Webkit is still broken, nobody has been able to get that package uploaded yet since it FTBFS
[18:59] <bcurtiswx_> AFAIK, it's still broken i haven't been told otherwise
[19:00] <bcurtiswx_> rodrigo_, what was failing for you?
[19:31] <kklimonda> hey - when I have two bittorrent clients installed, Firefox shows only the first one in the Open dialog. Is it a bug in Firefox?
[19:33] <kklimonda> chrisccoulson: any idea ^?
[19:38] <mogaj> headphone not working in laptop using ubuntu 10.10
[19:45] <cdbs> kenvandine: ping, looking at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/60389996/indicator-me_0.2.10-0ubuntu2_0.2.10-0ubuntu3.diff.gz, why was the patch for bug #682153 reverted?
[19:45] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 682153 in indicator-me (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "MeMenu should use user's real name if available (affects: 32) (dups: 1) (heat: 120)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/682153
[19:47] <cdbs> kenvandine: oh, okay, I got it
[20:28] <nessita> mterry: hi! I forgot  to mention the new dbus service we have, to provide U1 specific credentials
[20:29] <nessita> mterry: on natty, you can activate the com.ubuntuone.credentials dbus service, and ask credentials and stuff, without needing to pass a zillion of specific arguments
[20:30] <nessita> mterry: also, the problem you were having with the control panel is this one: bug #624065. Wanna mark it as affects me too?
[20:30] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 624065 in ubuntu-sso-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Detect revoked SSO tokens (affects: 2) (heat: 26)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/624065
[20:34] <bigon> I think that gobject-introspection package can be sync'ed from debian
[20:36] <mterry> nessita, OK, thanks!
[20:36] <mterry> nessita, btw, do you know anything about the status of 3rd party access to a REST API for U1?
[20:37] <nessita> mterry: not much, other than CardinalFang and vds are working on that, you may wanna join #ubuntuone and ask them
[20:37] <mterry> nessita, k
[20:38] <nessita> mterry: last question, are you updating the comments on the MIR for the control panel or shall I reply?
[20:39] <mterry> nessita, I'll do it.  I have to check to confirm libsoup is a trivial binary-promotion as well
[20:39] <bigon> robert_ancell: if you are still around could you please sync gobject-introspection?
[20:40] <robert_ancell> bigon, yup, seb128 is about to do it
[20:40] <nessita> mterry: thanks
[20:40] <seb128> kenvandine, there?
[20:41] <bigon> great
[20:41] <seb128> kenvandine, do you have libindicator work somewhere?
[20:41] <dobey> mterry: libsoup is already on the cd, it's just the gir package is in universe or something still
[20:41] <mterry> dobey, yup, that's what I've heard
[20:41] <seb128> kenvandine, https://code.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/libindicator/ubuntu/+merge/46170, what breaks did you add?
[20:42] <seb128> mterry, binary promotion is no issue
[20:42] <mterry> dobey, seb128: actually, it seems to be in main now anyway
[20:43] <dobey> ah, ok
[20:49] <seb128> mterry, is kenvandine with you? can you ask him what Breaks libindicator requires?
[20:49] <seb128> mterry, cf the question a few lines before this one
[20:50] <kenvandine> seb128, Breaks: libindicator1
[20:51] <seb128> kenvandine, oh,  it's one of those again...
[20:51] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks
[20:51] <kenvandine> yeah... :/
[20:59] <pitti> robert_ancell: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.natty/
[21:11] <ari-tczew> robert_ancell: ping
[21:11] <robert_ancell> ari-tczew, yes
[21:12] <ari-tczew> robert_ancell: let me know: do you review my branches to merge only when there is new upstream release available?
[21:12] <robert_ancell> ari-tczew, :)  There's always new upstream releases
[21:12] <ari-tczew> robert_ancell: so my merging are wasted
[21:12] <robert_ancell> rodrigo_, how is the GTK+ package going?
[21:13] <robert_ancell> ari-tczew, no, they still simplify the packaging - it doesn't matter if the merge is done before or after the update
[21:14] <ari-tczew> robert_ancell: but I can't understand why anybody from ubuntu-desktop can't review it before upgrading to new upstream release
[21:14] <ari-tczew> I'm disappointed
[21:16] <robert_ancell> ari-tczew, I applied it, then did the upgrade immediately after it
[21:20] <ari-tczew> robert_ancell: the effect of merge should be upload to archive - here I am disappointed
[21:21] <robert_ancell> ari-tczew, it was uploaded to the archive with your changelog entry!
[21:22] <ari-tczew> robert_ancell: yes, but you built source without option -v
[21:22] <robert_ancell> ari-tczew, oh, sorry.  Seb just pointed that out
[21:22] <ari-tczew> robert_ancell: should be -v1.60-0ubuntu1 then launchpad can show my d/changelog entry
[21:23] <ari-tczew> s/can/could
[21:35] <pitti> mvo: is there magic in p-apt to dissect a build or binary depends line into a list of (packagage, relation, version)?
[21:37] <pitti> mvo: oh, ParseDepends() and ParseSrcDepends() apparently -- what's the difference? they have identical docstrings
[21:38] <pitti> apt.apt_pkg.ParseSrcDepends(control.section['Build-Depends'])
[21:38] <pitti> that seems to work anyway
[21:38] <mvo> pitti: yeah, thats the ones. if they have identical bugstrings, that smells like a bug
[21:38] <mvo> pitti: yeah, that looks correct
[21:39] <pitti> bug strings? nice :)
[21:39]  * pitti hugs mvo
[21:40] <mvo> hihi
[21:40] <kklimonda> mvo: software-center doesn't find Transmission when I search for "torrent" - can I do something beside adding "torrent" to its description? It already has BitTorrent
[21:41] <mvo> kklimonda: you can also add "X-AppInstall-Keywords" to the desktop file
[21:41] <mvo> kklimonda: that should make it appear too
[21:42] <kklimonda> mvo: ok, thanks - I'll try that. Do I have to run update-software-center and update-desktop... after editing it?
[21:48] <mvo> kklimonda: just update-software-center, that should be enough
[21:48] <mvo> kklimonda: please let me know, I need to run now
[22:17] <chrisccoulson> pitti - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Lucid/FirefoxNewSupportModel/extension-list
[22:37] <pitti> mvo: is there an apt.SourceCache() kind of thing?
[23:23] <Wallch_Developer> If someone here have time please consider of making a review to this project --> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/wallch ;-)
[23:43] <ari-tczew> robert_ancell: how do you handle with syncs?


[01:19] <MrSavage> How do I hibernate on ubuntu-gnome?
[01:19] <MrSavage> Where it saves all my sessions and doesn't use battery
[02:17] <sweety> where can i see the bugtracker for ubuntu gnome
[02:17] <sweety> and is there a list of bugs closed between alpha 1 and alpha 2
[02:18] <sweety> the blog post doesnt give extensive release notes
[02:22] <sweety> nevermind i just added the tag ubuntu-gnome to the ubuntu project on launchpad and i think thats what i wanted
[02:22] <sweety> in advanced search
[02:27] <sweety> does anybody keep more detailed information available about this project
[02:27] <sweety> instead of 'most of gnome 3.14 is now included'
[02:27] <sweety> which parts are still missing
[02:28] <sweety> or how many bugs were closed between releases
[02:29] <sweety> do the individual team members keep personal blogs with development info i can check out
[04:28] <dxerf> hello
[04:29] <dxerf> in gnome 3.12 is there a way to save the state when logging out?
[05:55] <darkxst> sweety, http://phillw.net/ubuntu-gnome/vivid314.html
[05:56] <darkxst> bugs are tracked via a combination of normal ubuntu reports, and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome
[12:59] <GunnarHj> Hi! Any Ubuntu GNOME user who can help by verifying the gdm package in utopic-proposed with respect to bug #678421? (Some hardware and/or driver issue prevents me from running GNOME, which is why I can't verify it myself.)
[16:04] <octoquad> GunnarHj, Hi! I can take a look at it tomorrow for you...
[16:44] <xerf_> anyone an evolution user by chance?
[19:57] <oal> Hi
[19:58] <oal> Even if I have enabled the "user themes" extension in Gnome Tweak Tool, I can't find any in the list
[19:58] <oal> Shell theme, that is
[20:15] <frthtfhfgik> hi, I switched language from swedish to english and now I can't switch back. There is no option for swedish in the Language popup in Region & Language
[20:17] <JockeTF> frthtfhfgik: Click the three dots? :)
[20:17] <frthtfhfgik> I should probably mention that I'm on 14.10 and have added the gnome ppas to get gnome 3.14
[20:18] <JockeTF> Err, nevermind.
[20:18] <frthtfhfgik> JockeTF: It just says No languages found when I click the dots to search
[20:19] <JockeTF> frthtfhfgik: Yeah, just noticed that. Make sure the "language-pack-gnome-sv" package is installed, perhaps.
[20:19] <frthtfhfgik> language-pack-sv and language-pack-sv-base are installed
[20:19] <frthtfhfgik> yeah
[20:19]  * JockeTF doesn't know then.
[20:21] <JockeTF> frthtfhfgik: Make sure the gnome one is installed too though. :/
[20:23] <frthtfhfgik> yep, language-pack-gnome-sv-base and language-pack-gnome-sv are installed as well


[10:42] <guiverc_t> PaulW2U, just read your time.for.change (planet); I'll miss you like pleia2   (hoping to see you on occasion in an irc room or elsewhere), but thanks for all the great-teaching replies. great work etc for years (had seen your name for years back, but hadn't looked so far back!)
[10:47] <tsimonq2> Grrrr I fell asleep
[10:47] <tsimonq2> :P
[10:47] <tsimonq2> Using hte restroom then I'll go ahead and release UWN
[10:50] <tsimonq2> +1 guiverc_t :)
[10:51] <guiverc_t> tsimonq2, at your local time - i'd just go to bed & do it tomorrow !
[10:51] <guiverc_t> but on bright side; i've requested wiki access.... so maybe in future i can be an option
[10:51] <tsimonq2> guiverc_t: No it's 4 AM :P
[10:52] <tsimonq2> (almost 5)
[10:52] <tsimonq2> guiverc_t: I fell asleep at 6:30 PM last night and just woke up 20 minutes ago.
[10:52]  * tsimonq2 does one last editorial check
[10:56] <guiverc_t> tsimonq2, remembered your time zone; glad to hear you've had some sleep...  (fearing your you hadn't given your tz)
[11:00] <tsimonq2> :)
[11:03] <tsimonq2> Alright, lgtm except for one thing
[11:03]  * tsimonq2 fixes that one thing :P
[11:04] <tsimonq2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies - I'm on step 13 now
[11:06] <guiverc_t> :)
[11:11] <tsimonq2> guiverc_t: Does the "In This Issue" look correct to you?
[11:11] <tsimonq2> 4 eyes is better than 2 :P
[11:11] <tsimonq2> Gah no CamelCase! grrrrr
[11:12]  * guiverc_t looking  (about to open)
[11:13] <guiverc_t> if its softpedia & some nearby summaries; they were likely copied from articles///
[11:13] <guiverc_t> omgubuntu i think was the other that used it
[11:13] <tsimonq2> I'll take a closer look
[11:14] <tsimonq2> Grrrr why do people do that /o\
[11:15] <guiverc_t> haven't got it open (rarely have browser open; hate them) but i copied camel.bs from the articles - and commented them; comments resolved (never looked to see if changed)
[11:16] <tsimonq2> Ubuntu Snappy Core Linux OS Now Runs on Technologic Systems' i.MX6-Based TS-4900 - that summary doesn't plagarize, it'll be fine
[11:17] <tsimonq2> MWC 2017: Dell's New Edge Gateway 3000 Series Are Powered by Ubuntu Core 16 - good
[11:17] <guiverc_t> both sound familiar so likely the ones i did & recall (very vaguely)
[11:18] <tsimonq2> Meet the $30 Ubuntu-Ready NanoPi M1 Plus - fine
[11:18] <tsimonq2> And then I already checked The New System76 Galago Pro is a Potential Macbook Killer because it looked odd
[11:19] <tsimonq2> So no plagarizing
[11:19] <tsimonq2> (probably not spelling it right, you get the point...)
[11:20] <tsimonq2> Step 14 done
[11:21] <guiverc> i'm not seeing anything stand out btw... much looks familiar for some reason.
[11:21] <guiverc> nothing stand out - as in wrong...
[11:22] <tsimonq2> Yep, lgtm
[11:22] <tsimonq2> guiverc_t: Last chance if you see anything ;)
[11:22] <guiverc> i don't - but not at bottom yet (blogos..)
[11:22] <tsimonq2> ok
[11:23] <tsimonq2> guiverc_t: Let me know when you've finished and I'll publish
[11:24] <guiverc> don't see any issues - done.
[11:24] <tsimonq2> Yay ok
[11:24] <tsimonq2> Moving forward
[11:25] <tsimonq2> Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 501 for the week of February 27 - March 5, 2017 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue501
[11:25] <tsimonq2> ;)
[11:25] <guiverc_t> :)
[11:28] <tsimonq2> Step 17 done
[11:30] <tsimonq2> pleia2: Hey, so either you forgot to put UWN on Forums last week or you didn't do it intentionally. I'm assuming the latter and I'll skip that step for now. Please go ahead and put on Forums if it's the former.
[11:32] <guiverc_t> as I recall - pleia2 had problems with posting & that is why it wasn't done
[11:32] <guiverc_t> it might have been she was going to try again later (& forget), but I recall problems anyway
[11:34] <tsimonq2> Ok
[11:35] <tsimonq2> guiverc_t: I've always had problems as well
[11:39] <tsimonq2> Seps 19-24 done
[11:39] <tsimonq2> *Steps
[11:40]  * guiverc_t off walking the dog; back ~20m you need me...
[11:40] <guiverc_t> :s/you/if you/
[11:41] <tsimonq2> o/
[11:45] <tsimonq2> All done publishing
[11:45] <tsimonq2> pleia2: Please approve my email.
[11:52] <tsimonq2> Ok, all published and new articles added, off to do homework and go to school o/
[12:00] <PaulW2U> guiverc_t: np as they say. issue 316 was my first, May 2013.
[12:00] <PaulW2U> tsimonq2: you should try posting to the forums. there was maintenance done on the forums
[12:01] <PaulW2U> yesterday. posting problems may have been fixed
[12:07] <tsimonq2> PaulW2U: Thanks, done.
[12:07] <tsimonq2> Wait
[12:07] <tsimonq2> Not done yet :P
[12:08] <tsimonq2> (meant to say doing, whatever)
[12:08] <tsimonq2> PaulW2U: And did I publish correctly?
[12:10] <PaulW2U> looks ok to me, just need to make it sticky
[12:10] <tsimonq2> Ok
[12:11] <tsimonq2> PaulW2U: I meant 501 in general, does it look good?
[12:11] <PaulW2U> yes, spacing and layout look fine
[12:12] <tsimonq2> Yay
[12:12] <tsimonq2> Cool
[12:15]  * guiverc_t back from walk; desktop has 'popup' with tsimonq2 sent #501 via news-team; not yet hit my inbox..  , :) @ PaulW2U
[12:19] <tsimonq2> guiverc_t: :D
[12:41] <tsimonq2> pleia2: Oh, so nvm on forums then, posted.
[16:31] <pleia2> re: forums, yeah, we miss issues here and there because of a known error about security tokens that randomly manifests
[16:31] <pleia2> the forums council has had a ticket open with IS for over a year, but eh
[16:32] <pleia2> I sent them a sad email last week about how I wasn't able to post #500