[02:17] <khatuido> can we install skype on xubuntu ?
[02:18] <vidd> yes...you can install any linux app on xubuntu
[02:19] <khatuido> but i got error message
[02:19] <vidd> what did it say?
[02:20] <khatuido> wrong architecture i386
[02:20] <vidd> do you have an i386 or an amd64?
[02:20] <khatuido> amd64
[02:20] <vidd> or a ppc system?
[02:21] <khatuido> amd64
[02:21] <vidd> so you want to get the amd64 version
[02:21] <khatuido> on the site there is only one version
[02:22] <khatuido> so it mean if i got amd64 version i cannot install skype?
[02:27] <vidd> apparently....
[02:27] <vidd> try a skype clone
[02:30] <khatuido> in fact i just see this
[02:30] <khatuido> like u said my problem was amd64
[02:30] <khatuido> http://www.commentcamarche.net/faq/sujet-6146-debian-debian-gnu-linux-4-0-amd64-installation-skype
[02:31] <khatuido> so i will try this tutorial
[02:31] <vidd> there ya go
[04:04] <tech404> sorry to ask a question like this but has anyone had any luck connecting XP to a wireless router with a hidden SSID and WPA encryption. I dont know how to do it with windows and my friend is trying to use my network
[04:05] <vidd> hand 'em an ubuntu live cd
[04:07] <siimo> hi any xubuntu Gutsy users here?
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[04:23] <Jester45>
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[04:23] <Jester45>
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[04:23] <Jester45>
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[04:23] <Jester45>
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[04:23] <Jester45>
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[04:24] <Jester45> ooo very sorry
[04:24] <Jester45> wrong channel
[04:40] <TaJMoX> Why do I only have 1 workspace now?   How do I get 4 again?  Please and Thanks!
[04:42] <zials> err, does your mouse have a middle button?
[04:43] <zials> if not then, emulate it, and middle-click on your desktop
[04:43] <zials> and theres is an option to add a workplace there
[04:44] <TaJMoX> zials: <3
[04:48] <Jester45> or settings -> workplace settigns
[05:04] <TaJMoX> Jester45: ah yes that's what I was looking for but apparently I'm illiterate
[05:06] <Jester45> easy questions are better than hardones
[05:06] <Jester45> unless i know the answer
[06:34] <eagle_101> Anyone know a decent FOSS time manager. (Some sort of calender that lets you plot a schedule?)
[07:25] <Jester45> umm
[07:25] <Jester45> i think xubuntu comes with one by defualt
[07:26] <Jester45> !info wyrd
[07:26] <ubotu> wyrd: text-based calendar application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.1-2 (feisty), package size 274 kB, installed size 696 kB
[08:27] <infbliss> hi all is it possible to have decent fonts in xubuntu
[08:34] <wubinoobi> hola guys... i'm about 80 percent done with a wubi ubuntu install; does anyone have any comments about ubuntu installed the wubi way?  tips, suggestions, etc...?
[08:40] <Jester45> wubi?
[08:40] <Jester45> and this is the Xubuntu channel, but nobody but me here so it doesnt matter
[09:29] <ziroday> how well intergrated is ltsp?
[10:21] <tupa> hey, I'm new to Xfce, how do I change its themes?
[11:46] <echosystm> guys
[11:46] <echosystm> if i did an alt install, with just xfce4 and x
[11:46] <echosystm> would it be any quicker than a standard xubuntu install/
[11:47] <echosystm> like, is there much bloat in the normal install?
[11:57] <echosystm> can anyone answer the question i asked just before ? :P
[11:59] <totalwormage> quicker to install or quicker to run
[11:59] <totalwormage> oh wel
[11:59] <totalwormage> l
[12:00] <totalwormage> i didn't know the answer anyway :]
[02:17] <brinstar> guys, i have a really small question about thunar. is it possible to change the way the columns are aligned? i don't mean the position, i mean which side of the column the text goes on?
[02:49] <RedRama> hello
[02:49] <RedRama> has anyone configured beryl successfully on xubuntu?
[03:28] <System79> Anyone here who could help me? >.>
[03:28] <TheSheep> !ask | System79
[03:28] <ubotu> System79: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:29] <System79> Im trying to install xubuntu, i have problems with permissions to mount my volumes >.>
[03:29] <xyber52> what volumes
[03:29] <System79> All it comes up with is you are not privileged to mount this volume
[03:30] <System79> My hard drive, and cd drive
[03:30] <xyber52> are you trying ot mount these using the xubuntu live cd?
[03:30] <System79> Yes
[03:30] <System79> With the installer
[03:31] <xyber52> 7.04?
[03:31] <System79> Yup.
[03:32] <xyber52> do you have two optical drives? Or are you talking about the ones mounted already by the cd
[03:34] <System79> Well, im talking about /dev/hda1 mainly, because when i come to the last step of the installer where i just have to push the button, it comes up with You are not privileged to mount this volume
[03:34] <System79> It points to /media/hda1 or something.
[03:34] <System79> Give me one second and ill take a look,
[03:35] <xyber52> how did you partition /dev/hda ?
[03:37] <System79> ive had a look at it, it comes up with a diffrent error now with a problem about ext3 partition >.>
[03:38] <System79> What is the ext3 partition in the sceme supposed to point to? is it supposed to point to / or /media/hda1?
[03:38] <TheSheep> System79: open thunar, go to edit->preferences->advanced and disable volume management
[03:38] <System79> Oo ill try it, one second.
[03:39] <TheSheep> System79: there is a bug in the interaction of volume manager and the installer
[03:40] <xyber52> interesting, never had that problem
[03:40] <TheSheep> xyber52: it happens when you create new partitions -- the volume manager mounts them immediately
[03:41] <System79> Makes sence, if the other thing uses the partition you cant access it if im right >.>
[03:41] <xyber52> TheSheep: would you be able to get around this by disabling volume manager or just using unmount on the new volumes then?
[03:42] <System79> I found a bug too, if you select a city at the time zone screen other than the ones in america it will affect the next screen of keyobard settings strangeley >.>
[03:42] <System79> xyber if you turn off volume manager it works
[03:42] <TheSheep> xyber52: yes, that's why I suggested to disable the volume manager :)
[03:42] <System79> I found a bug too, if you select a city at the time zone screen other than the ones in america it will affect the next screen of keyobard settings strangeley >.>
[03:42] <TheSheep> !bugs | System79
[03:42] <ubotu> System79: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[03:42] <System79> ^ reported yet?
[03:42] <TheSheep> System79: no idea
[03:43] <System79> Strange part is that i have both the normal ubuntu 7.04 and the xubuntu, and it only occurs with the xubuntu cd
[03:44] <System79> I reported it :/
[03:44] <System79> Is it right that XFCE is lighter than gdm or kde?
[03:44] <xyber52> Yes
[03:45] <System79> Oo intresting
[03:45] <xyber52> By a good margin, actually. Though Gnome runs very well on my laptop.
[03:45] <TheSheep> System79: xfce and gdm are two totally different things, xubuntu uses both
[03:45] <System79> gdm stands for what then? i thought it was to disable gnome desktop manager if you used /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:45] <System79> :\
[03:46] <System79> O well, it doesnt really matter i guess, i've been working with linux for like 2 months now and i dont know that much about it yet :)
[03:46] <TheSheep> System79: gdm is gnome desktop manager, a part of the gnome desktop environment that is responsible for starting X and disaplying the login prompt
[03:46] <xyber52> XFCE runs very well on old hardware. I have a Pentium 4-M 1.6 and 512 Megs of RAM, it runs very fast.
[03:47] <TheSheep> xyber52: that's old? o.o
[03:47] <xyber52> To me, yes...
[03:47] <System79> Lol ;o
[03:47] <xyber52> I came to Iraq with an "old" laptop, my desktop at home is nice enough, it runs Beryl easily
[03:48] <xyber52> Even XFCE's built-in compositing kills this thing
[03:48] <System79> Next step to do in a few months is try to fix myself up with gentoo cause gentoo's command-line installer is quite much harder ;o
[03:48] <xyber52> Gentoo.... :)
[03:49] <System79> I love it though, had my brother install it for me before
[03:49] <xyber52> Are you a gluton for punishment?
[03:49] <TheSheep> xyber52: hey, no distro bashing
[03:49] <xyber52> I used Gentoo for two or three years, then I switched to Ubuntu in 2004
[03:50] <System79> Well im quite young i sticked to windows like 4 years =o
[03:50] <xyber52> I learned more from Gentoo than anything else about Linux and loved it.
[03:50] <xyber52> That distro seems to have lost its direction, but has a wonderful online community.
[03:50] <System79> Their forums are good build and active if you are talking about that
[03:50] <System79> =)
[03:51] <xyber52> Stage 1 installs for the win!
[03:51] <System79> Gentoo seems to get more problems now though cause that 50mb package you used to download for command line installing, has now turned into a 700mb live cd >.
[03:52] <System79> I've always found it strange that in windows your harddrive is noisy, because of some strange reason i dont have that with ubuntu
[03:52] <System79> :/
[03:53] <xyber52> Yeah... The minimal cd was very capable, I really enjoyed it. Now I pass out Ubuntu live cd's like candy.
[03:53] <System79> :p
[03:54] <System79> Im just a 13 year old kid with 13000 questions and 16 answers >.>
[03:54] <xyber52> Lol
[03:54] <System79> I know its sad :s
[03:55] <System79> And i have nvidia for what they done to my previous ubuntu installation :(
[03:55] <System79> Their drivers messed up X so bad that i couldnt get it to start even with the backup conf :(
[03:55] <xyber52> I work as an IT contractor in Iraq, it is nice to see peoples face light up when you fix their PC's (personal laptops, pirated Vista copies), everything just works when I put in a xubuntu live cd and eveything works and they can rescue their data
[03:56] <System79> Mm
[03:56] <System79> I'm trying to get a study for such things
[03:56] <System79> Its kind of like my dream job :)
[03:56] <xyber52> The one thing about linux, is that now matter how bad you mess something up, you usually have the capability to fix it
[03:57] <System79> *puts in autorescue cd*
[03:57] <System79> Well yeah, at my old school i used to help with the computers and such
[03:57] <xyber52> That is always a good start.
[03:57] <TheSheep> reminds me of my friend who rescued a system with deleted /sbin using only 'echo' and 'nc'
[03:57] <System79> Its really fun to do something that intrests you
[03:57] <System79> ..
[03:58] <System79> 61 people here and 96% is idle :p
[03:59] <xyber52> Now that's a rescue job there.. I have screwed up Kernels and ATI drivers before, but never dealt with entire deleted directories. Mostly now I rescue people's personal files from Windows installations.
[03:59] <TheSheep> System79: they read backlog when they're back, that's why we also have #xubuntu-offtopic
[03:59] <System79> Anyways, anyone got the nvidia drivers for linux to work under ubuntu? >.>
[04:00] <System79> xyber, i remember when the head of that school i used to help on changed his passwords and forgot it
[04:00] <System79> and there came me with a bruteforcer floppy :)
[04:00] <System79> Good ol' times
[04:00] <System79> =P
[04:00] <xyber52> Downloaded form Nvidia or installed automatically by Ubuntu?
[04:00] <xyber52> lol
[04:00] <System79> Downloaded
[04:01] <System79> i HAD to play wolfenstein enemy territory :p
[04:01] <TheSheep> System79: there are drivers in the repositories already tuned and configured for ubuntu
[04:01] <System79> *slaps head*
[04:01] <TheSheep> System79: you just need 2 clicks to install them
[04:01] <System79> O well, i wanted an XUbuntu anyway :p
[04:01] <TheSheep> System79: in system->restricted drivers manager
[04:02] <xyber52> Supprisingly almost everything is in the repositories. Ubuntu really does make Linux easy
[04:02] <System79> Well not really anymore, some packages have been renamed and not linked :(
[04:02] <System79> Try finding wine in the standard ubuntu repositories
[04:02] <xyber52> ? Like what?
[04:03] <System79> I couldnt get it
[04:03] <System79> Package wine was not found
[04:03] <xyber52> Lol, I haven't used that except for the built into Picasa install
[04:03] <System79> What language is ubuntu made in >.>
[04:04] <xyber52> Programming Language?
[04:04] <System79> I heard that gentoo was made in python or something like that >.>
[04:04] <System79> Yes
[04:04] <xyber52> Emerge is Python....
[04:04] <xyber52> Lots of different things are writen in different languages.
[04:04] <System79> I can hardly think linux consists of just machine levcel code
[04:04] <System79> I mean the base
[04:04] <System79> Not only the functions, the loader
[04:05] <xyber52> Depends on what app in Ubuntu you are talking about.
[04:05] <System79> Ubuntu itself
[04:05] <System79> Debian
[04:05] <System79> Whats the source of linux base coded in
[04:05] <System79> I've always wondered
[04:06] <xyber52> Well, the Kernel is C, Lots of things are written in Perl and Python as well as C, but as far as Apt-Get, I am not sure.
[04:06] <System79> O ok
[04:07] <System79> Im going to see if my xubuntu installation is done
[04:07] <System79> Ill be back :x
[04:07] <System79> Thanks for the help xyber52 and TheSheep
[04:41] <System79> Yay it works now :)
[04:41] <System79> xyber52 and TheSheep thanks for the help :)
[04:57] <System79> Anyone knows anything about java in xubuntu?
[04:59] <zials> what about it? o.o
[05:00] <System79> It is not in the repositories
[05:00] <System79> it is in ubuntu but not in xubuntu
[05:01] <zials> mhmm, well.. I've seen in it an add/remove
[05:01] <System79> Really? I haven't
[05:01] <System79> I got universe and all enabled and it wont show up :p
[05:01] <zials> and anything in add/remove should be in the repositories...
[05:01] <zials> try doing a search for "java" in add/remove
[05:02] <System79> I did
[05:02] <zials> oh
[05:02] <zials> do you have universe enabeled?
[05:02] <System79> I got universe and all enabled and it wont show up :p
[05:02] <zials> on the top/right, theres a scroll down thingie
[05:02] <xyber52> I thought a build of Java was enabled in 7.04 builds by default?
[05:02] <System79> Nope
[05:03] <System79> For some strange reason it isnt there
[05:03] <System79> In Ubuntu 7.04 you can download the sun java 5 jre
[05:03] <System79> using apt-get and add/remove
[05:03] <System79> But in
[05:03] <zials> well, in add/remove, did you select "All available application" from the top right
[05:03] <System79> Xubuntu, it isnt there
[05:04] <System79> Gah
[05:04] <System79> forgot about that
[05:04] <System79> lol
[05:04] <xyber52> Try going to java.com, does it work? I haven
[05:04] <System79> Now it shows
[05:04] <System79> :)
[05:04] <xyber52> 't added java to mine and it works.
[05:05] <System79> Javascript is standard but loading applets need a full install of sun java 5
[05:05] <System79> My desktop looks awesome lol
[05:06] <zials> =o ?
[05:06] <xyber52> XFCE is interesting and very configurable, how is yours setup?
[05:06] <System79> Custom themes, havent really messed with it yet
[05:07] <System79> I like XFCEs flexibility :o
[05:09] <xyber52> No kidding, the panels are just about as easy as it gets to configure
[05:10] <System79> xyber do you know any fun tweaks for XFCE to make my desktop look better?
[05:11] <zials> you mean stuff like  gdesklets?
[05:11] <xyber52> I spent some time installing conky, and then I have worked on my panels quite a bit. I haven't really done much else. All the good stuff requires compositing.
[05:11] <System79> Mm is it possible to make screenshots in Xubuntu lol
[05:11] <zials> yea
[05:12] <zials> application -> accessories -> Take screenshot
[05:12] <System79> O :p
[05:13] <System79> ERr, theres no take scerenshot
[05:13] <System79> ;o
[05:14] <zials> o.o
[05:14] <xyber52> its in add/remove
[05:14] <xyber52> another gnome app not included by default in XFCE
[05:14] <zials> you can use the terminal
[05:15] <System79> Mmk
[05:15] <zials> ...but the app is much easier
[05:16] <TheSheep> you can use gimp
[05:16] <TheSheep> it has 'take screenshot' in file->aquire
[05:17] <System79> :)
[05:18] <System79> Xyber52: My desktop http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/2815/mydesktopag1.png <-- Hah ;o
[05:19] <zials> why didn't you make xChats background dark?
[05:19] <System79> Cause then the text will be unreadable
[05:19] <System79> >.>
[05:19] <zials> you can change the text colout
[05:19] <zials> colour*
[05:20] <System79> Ive made it even better
[05:20] <System79> :p
[05:21] <zials> I like the clean look though
[05:21] <System79> Figured out how to make my chat window background transparent
[05:21] <System79> :)
[05:21] <zials> did you enable compositing?
[05:21] <System79> Nope :)
[05:21] <zials> why not?
[05:22] <System79> I dont enable things that i dont know what it does ;)
[05:22] <zials> makes stuff transparent
[05:22] <System79> Intresting
[05:22] <System79> Im new to XFCE
[05:22] <System79> :)
[05:22] <zials> settings -> window manager tweaks
[05:22] <zials> select the compositor tab
[05:23] <System79> Mm
[05:23] <System79> How do i configure this?
[05:23] <zials> enable the first option, and play around with the slider
[05:23] <System79> Wow this is hot :)
[05:24] <System79> I like this
[05:26] <System79> Too bad u cant make firefox transparent :(
[05:27] <System79> http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9330/newdesktopcompositingondi2.png <-- new desktop with composite thing on
[05:28] <zials> doesn't firefox look ugly because every other page is white?
[05:29] <System79> Yesh it does i want to make firefox transparent but it doesnt work
[05:29] <TheSheep> beware of headache
[05:29] <System79> ?
[05:30] <TheSheep> System79: move the mouse pointer on the firefox's title bar and try alt+scrollwheel
[05:30] <zials> I think he means only the background of a page
[05:31] <System79> Wow
[05:31] <System79> It works :)
[05:31] <System79> Naw i ment firefox completely
[05:31] <zials> o.o
[05:31] <System79> Now every application is transparent lool
[05:31] <TheSheep> another cool but useless feature :)
[05:31] <System79> Thats why XFCE is for graphics eh ;o
[05:32] <System79> My friend told me it was way better than that gnome stuff =o
[05:32] <zials> really?
[05:32] <TheSheep> no, gnome has more of it
[05:32] <TheSheep> especially with beryl or compiz
[05:32] <Jester45> yea... xfce's composting is prettty much useless
[05:32] <TheSheep> Jester45: shadows are good
[05:32] <System79> Never knew about compositing anyway.
[05:32] <System79> Nice to have a try with it
[05:32] <Jester45> ybut compiz is much better because you can use it to be more efficient
[05:33] <TheSheep> Jester45: arguable :)
[05:33] <System79> XFCE is more lightweight than gnome though
[05:33] <Jester45> the cube desktop is amazingly cool
[05:33] <Jester45> you can get compiz without gnome
[05:33] <System79> Mm
[05:34] <TheSheep> Jester45: how does eactly cube desktop make you more efficinet?
[05:34] <TheSheep> exactly
[05:34] <Jester45> because you can see though it and see whats going on on all your desktops at once
[05:34] <System79> You can be browsing and watch the debug of your irc server
[05:34] <System79> ;o
[05:35] <TheSheep> well, you can do that already with xfce's window transparency
[05:36] <Jester45> once your used to it
[05:37] <Jester45> you stop paying attention to how cool it is and just use it
[05:37] <System79> Speeded up my firefox :)
[05:37] <vidd> i have this annoying keyboard switcher icon on my panel and i cant seem to get rid of it....any ideas?
[05:38] <System79> Keyboard swiitcher? :S that sounds like a bad thing ;o
[05:39] <System79> Wow my internet is very fast now ;o
[05:39] <Jester45> so you saying that look at one desktop at a time is more efficient say when you can look at a full screen movie while watching something compile and then also keeping an eye on irc
[05:39] <vidd> it is bad.....i just accidentally started tying in chineese....i think
[05:39] <Jester45> System79, it didnt speed your internet connection up
[05:39] <System79> I know
[05:39] <System79> But it speeded up the delay between pages
[05:39] <System79> ;o
[05:40] <System79> Its like very fast now
[05:40] <vidd> Jester45, if im running anything full-creen, im not doing anything eles
[05:40] <System79> ^ true
[05:40] <System79> Why would you run it full screen for otherwise
[05:40] <System79> >.>
[05:40] <Jester45> so one thing at a time? for multipule
[05:40] <System79> I dont know what i should do multiple
[05:40] <vidd> if im multi-tasking, <alt><tab> works for me
[05:41] <Jester45> because you can switch to it quickly still without having to unfull screen it
[05:41] <System79> alt+tab.
[05:41] <System79> Thats more efficient to be honest
[05:41] <System79> ;x
[05:42] <vidd> as i said...if im multi-tasking, i dont full-screen anything
[05:42] <vidd> the only thing i full screen is movies
[05:42] <Jester45> vidd you know me :) i allways have at least 2 movies running at once
[05:43] <vidd> and if im watching a movie, im not doing anything else...at least not on that computer
[05:43] <vidd> ???
[05:43] <vidd> and if i need to actually do 2 full screen apps at once (why i would, i have no idea) i just fire up a second (or third if needed) computer
[05:44] <System79> Wow.. compositing and java aplets dont work toow ell >.>
[05:44] <zials> doesn't the cube desktop use more resources? O.o
[05:45] <vidd> well...not more then 2+ computers =]
[05:45] <System79> I wonder if i would be able to use Winamp on linux :o
[05:45] <System79> I want to re-setup my shoutcast server =x
[05:45] <zials> why not use one of the many other music players?
[05:45] <zials> ahh
[05:45] <System79> im used to xmms
[05:45] <System79> but i cant compile the plugins
[05:45] <System79> i always get errors
[05:45] <System79> >.>
[05:46] <vidd> so anyone have any suggestions on getting this keyboard switcher off my desktop?
[05:46] <System79> Options maybe? :p
[05:46] <vidd> nope
[05:47] <vidd> there is no option
[05:47] <System79> >.>
[05:47] <System79> That sucks
[05:47] <System79> Anyone knows what packages i nede to compile XMMS plugins?
[05:48] <zials> when you do configure, what does it say?
[05:48] <System79> Wait a sec im downloading icecast
[05:48] <System79> Otherwise i have nothing to compile
[05:48] <System79> ;p
[05:51] <vidd> scim-panel-gtk
[05:52] <System79> Zials: iit says "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:52] <System79> See `config.log' for more details.
[05:52] <System79> "
[05:52] <System79> What libs do i need >.>
[05:54] <Jester45> vidd's server had thew same problem when compiling eggdrop
[05:54] <System79> Yeah i know and theres some library for it
[05:54] <System79> >.>
[05:54] <System79> its also needed to compile postfix
[05:54] <System79> =/
[05:58] <vidd> not lets see if my system crashes with scim completely removed
[06:02] <Jester45> i dont have scim
[06:02] <System79> Jester
[06:02] <System79> sudo apt-get install build-essential <-- does the trick with gcc
[06:02] <System79> ;)
[06:07] <Jester45> yea... still didnt help i tried that i have compiled before
[06:07] <System79> then thats strange :p
[06:08] <System79> outdated gcc or outdated build-essentials
[06:08] <System79> :p
[06:33] <khatuido> is it possible got java on amd64 mode?
[06:36] <khatuido> can we use flash player on it?
[06:38] <BFTD> hrm, after updating my kernel, xubuntu no longer see's my ethernet card
[06:38] <System79> java on amd64?
[06:38] <System79> i have experience with that
[06:38] <System79> :)
[06:38] <khatuido> humm
[06:38] <System79> Khatuido, u got it to work yet?
[06:38] <BFTD> lspci see's it
[06:39] <BFTD> but networking nor ifconfig does
[06:39] <System79> >.>
[06:39] <BFTD> !!
[06:39] <System79> I dont know anything about networking reallly
[06:39] <System79> :(
[06:39] <khatuido> i find
[06:39] <khatuido> in fact
[06:39] <System79> Khatuido for running java and flash on a 64 bit system you need to install 32 bit libraries and a 32 bit firefox
[06:40] <khatuido> but not for flash player
[06:40] <khatuido> System79: i find how install java but not flash player
[06:40] <System79> Khatuido: How did you install java?
[06:41] <System79> The blackdown thing is bugged.
[06:41] <System79> Closes down every applet you try to load
[06:41] <khatuido> apt-get j2...
[06:41] <System79> What are you planning to do with java?
[06:42] <khatuido> in fact i am setting my desktop
[06:42] <khatuido> i install things i will need
[06:42] <khatuido> i need flashplayer
[06:43] <khatuido> but don't find how install in amd64
[06:43] <System79> If you are going to run applets in your browser you need to install the browser plugin with apt-get install sun-java5-plugin, and you might want to install sun-java5-bin too
[06:43] <System79> Search add/remove
[06:43] <Jester45> does the nonfree plugin work on 64 bit?
[06:43] <Jester45> System79, why not java6
[06:44] <System79> Java wont work in 64 bit firefox anyway..
[06:44] <System79> Java is a 32 bit application
[06:44] <khatuido> oh
[06:44] <System79> You need to hook it with a 32 bit firefox installation
[06:44] <System79> and the 32 bit libraries
[06:44] <System79> Jester45: can you help khatuido with getting 32 bit libraries and firefox seeing as i have to go eat some
[06:45] <System79> Ill be right back 10 minutes
[06:46] <khatuido> but the 1.4.2 is enough for my need
[06:54] <Jester45> hi maxamillion
[06:55] <maxamillion> hello Jester45
[07:04] <System79> ~Back
[07:05] <System79> Aww
[07:05] <System79> no welcome backs?
[07:05] <System79> Jester45: I WANT A WELCOME BACK =(
[07:06] <System79> :)
[07:06] <System79> Thanks ;p
[07:06] <System79> Woot
[07:06] <System79> https://shipit.ubuntu.com <- Free CDs please?
[07:06] <vidd> System79, did you ever think ppl were happy to see ya go?
[07:06] <vidd> lol
[07:07] <System79> Yup :)
[07:07] <System79> U guys have seen ubuntus new shipit stuff?
[07:07] <System79> Up to 3 free cds with ubuntu on it
[07:07] <System79> :)
[07:08] <vidd> only 3?
[07:08] <vidd> any alt cd's?
[07:08] <System79> 1 cd with 32 bit ubuntu
[07:08] <System79> 2 with 32 bit and 1 with 64 bit
[07:09] <System79> 3 with 64 bit
[07:09] <System79> or 1 with 64 bit
[07:09] <System79> =$
[07:09] <System79> and you can get EduBuntu and Kubuntu too
[07:11] <vidd> System79, nothing there i want
[07:11] <vidd> the live cd is only good for emergencies....i'd NEVER use it to install
[07:12] <System79> I got 3 ubuntu 32 hit on order cause i always lose them
[07:12] <System79> the cds
[07:12] <System79> >.>
[07:13] <System79> Noooooo
[07:13] <System79> shipit is down
[07:17] <System79> Bye
[07:32] <Parkotron> Hello all! I just downloaded an Xubuntu 7.04 alternate install iso. I'm trying to isntall it
[07:32] <wbadger> guys what's the output of "users" in your comp?
[07:32] <wbadger> Parkotron, there's a big button labeled "Install" :)
[07:32] <vidd> Parkotron, where are you stuck?
[07:32] <Parkotron> Sorry, I didn't mean to hit enter.
[07:33] <Parkotron> Packages are being found to be corrupt.
[07:33] <vidd> wbadger, there is no buttons on the alt install
[07:34] <wbadger> vidd, I guess you're right :P didn't see it was alt install
[07:34] <Parkotron> But the MD5SUM from the ISO and from the burnt CD match the one listed on the server.
[07:34] <vidd> Parkotron, did you run the "check cd for defects"
[07:35] <Parkotron> I now think it might be a faulty CD drive as the corrupt packages are different if I try it again.
[07:35] <vidd> Parkotron, when you burn the iso, you always want to use the slowest speed you can
[07:35] <Parkotron> The first time was perl, the second time, python-minimal and this time it's smbclient.
[07:36] <vidd> especially if you are burning it on one computer and running it on another
[07:37] <Parkotron> vidd: I know the burn was good as K3B "Verified Written Data" and a did a manual MD5SUM myself.
[07:37] <Parkotron> Sorry, I think the CD-ROM on the computer I'm installing to might be faulty. I know my burner is good.
[07:37] <Parkotron> I should have been clearer.
[07:38] <vidd> Parkotron, this is true....however, if you burn a cd @ 16 speed, and you try to run it on a 32X cdrom, that cdrom drive may not be able to read that burn
[07:38] <vidd> older cdroms have issues reading hi-speed burns
[07:39] <Parkotron> Really? I'd never heard of that.
[07:39] <Parkotron> But then again I've never had to deal with a CD-ROM from 1998 before either.
[07:39] <vidd> if you are installing on a desktop, you may want to put that burner into the other system so the drive can read the burn
[07:40] <vidd> 1998???? good luck getting that to read ANY home-burned cd!
[07:40] <Parkotron> I've got an extra CD-ROM lying around. I'll swap it in and see what happens.
[07:41] <vidd> what speed did you burn the iso @?
[07:41] <Parkotron> 4x
[07:41] <vidd> that is usually ok for not-so-old cdroms
[07:42] <Parkotron> Not unreasonably fast.
[07:42] <wbadger> vidd, I don't think it's possible.. the data on a high speed burnt cd should be the same as the one with a low speed burnt cd
[07:42] <vidd> i dont suppose you have a spare burner that you can put in that machine?
[07:42] <vidd> wbadger, you keep thinking that
[07:43] <vidd> experience has shown me that it DOES make a difference
[07:43] <vidd> IDK why...but it does
[07:43] <wbadger> vidd, if you don't know why it makes a difference... well ok then you keep thinking that
[07:43] <TheSheep> vidd: it's because at higher speeds the burner's laser has much shorter contact with the cd and the alternations are smaller
[07:44] <vidd> TheSheep, so it DOES make a difference?
[07:44] <vidd> im NOT crazy?
[07:44] <TheSheep> vidd: it's ok for modern, sensitive cd drives, but not for the blunt old ones
[07:44] <vidd> =]
[07:44] <wbadger> a reason :) now that I can believe
[07:44] <TheSheep> vidd: the quality of the cd disk you're using makes a difference too
[07:45] <TheSheep> vidd: and its age
[07:45] <vidd> =]  thats a given!
[07:45] <Parkotron> Well, I've got to shutdown to tear my extra burner out of this machine. Thanks for the help. I might be back.
[07:45] <vidd> Parkotron, good choice of install method!
[07:47] <vidd> wbadger, the duck-billed platapus is a warm-blooded animal that lays eggs....why? IDK....you going to question that too? =]
[07:47] <System79|IdLe> Err?
[07:48] <System79|IdLe> duck-billed platapus? >.>
[07:48] <wbadger> I would probably question it if I cared :P
[07:48] <vidd> lol
[07:48] <vidd> System79|IdLe, ya missed half the convo....dont ask! =]
[07:48] <System79|IdLe> Aw :(
[07:49] <System79|IdLe> Gah i cant read quit messages :(
[07:50] <System79|IdLe> I like XUbuntu better than Kubuntu if it depends on graphics
[07:51] <vidd> System79|IdLe, is it that you dont SEE the quit messages? or they are there and you just cant make them out?
[07:51] <vidd> and what chat client are you using?
[07:52] <System79|IdLe> My color settings are just wrong :)
[07:52] <vidd> oh...that should be a rather simple fix
[07:52] <System79|IdLe> I know
[07:52] <System79|IdLe> But i dont feel like doing it
[07:52] <System79|IdLe> :)
[07:53] <vidd> then....suffer?
[07:53] <vidd> =]
[07:53] <System79|IdLe> What do i need to see quit messages for anyway
[07:54] <BFTD> ARGH
[07:54] <System79|IdLe> I can see it now :)
[07:54] <BFTD> my ethernet card isn't being seen by ifconfig
[07:54] <BFTD> WHY!?!?!
[07:54] <BFTD> lspci see's it though
[07:54] <System79|IdLe> Cause its blind?
[07:54] <System79|IdLe> >.>
[07:54] <BFTD> tell me why NOW!!!
[07:54] <System79|IdLe> Ask jesus
[07:54] <System79|IdLe> >.>
[07:54] <BFTD> Jesus isn't here!
[07:54] <vidd> BFTD, what is the ethernet card?
[07:54] <System79|IdLe> Why did you have to update your kernel :'(
[07:55] <BFTD> broadcom 4401
[07:55] <wbadger> lol
[07:55] <System79|IdLe> *points to google -> drivers*
[07:55] <BFTD> ?
[07:55] <BFTD> it was working not to long ago
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> Maybe you lost some packages on your drivers go download them and see if it works?
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> I dont know what you did
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> Or how you did it
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> :/
[07:56] <BFTD> dude
[07:56] <BFTD> drivers?
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> Yesh
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> Drivers
[07:56] <BFTD> there is no such thing in linux
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> >.>
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> Yes there is
[07:56] <BFTD> where are you from?!
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> I downloaded nvidia drivers
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> for my videocard
[07:56] <System79|IdLe> and then had to reinstall xubuntu :)
[07:57] <BFTD> that's why you get it from the repo's and not from the site
[07:57] <System79|IdLe> And if you want proof that it exists in linux -> www.nvidia.com
[07:57] <System79|IdLe> :p
[07:57] <System79|IdLe> How would I know :p
[07:57] <System79|IdLe> I just wanted to play rtcw
[07:57] <System79|IdLe> :p
[07:57] <BFTD> rtcw?
[07:57] <System79|IdLe> return to castle wolfenstein rofl
[07:58] <BFTD> ?
[07:58] <System79|IdLe> Like the only first person shooter for linux
[07:58] <vidd> System79|IdLe, well...that was your FIRST problem!
[07:58] <System79|IdLe> :p
[07:58] <vidd> =]
[07:58] <BFTD> what was wrong with nvidia-glx?
[07:58] <System79|IdLe> Didnt figure that i had that
[07:58] <System79|IdLe> ;)
[07:58] <System79|IdLe> Its like
[07:58] <System79|IdLe> being lazy and let google do it
[07:59] <System79|IdLe> Always ends in trouble
[07:59] <System79|IdLe> >.>
[07:59] <vidd> BFTD, check your blacklist...make sure the driver didnt get flagged in error
[07:59] <BFTD> where is this blacklist?
[08:00] <System79|IdLe> At your restricted drivers
[08:00] <System79|IdLe> Err where was that again >.>
[08:00] <System79|IdLe> Applications -> System -> restricted drivers manager
[08:01] <BFTD> You need to install the package
[08:01] <BFTD>   linux-restricted-modules-<IP_ADDRESS>-custom
[08:01] <BFTD> for this program to work.
[08:01] <System79|IdLe> then install it
[08:01] <BFTD> there is no such package
[08:01] <System79|IdLe> seems like you messed up something and u lost some packages..
[08:01] <System79|IdLe> Gah
[08:01] <System79|IdLe> What exactly did youdo
[08:01] <vidd>  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:02] <System79|IdLe> He cant even start rdm
[08:02] <System79|IdLe> lol
[08:02] <System79|IdLe> ;x
[08:02] <vidd> System79|IdLe, neither can i....
[08:02] <System79|IdLe> I can
[08:02] <System79|IdLe> :$
[08:02] <System79|IdLe> Maybe cause i dont mess around with my installations that much :x
[08:03] <vidd> BFTD, do you see your driver listed on the blacklist?
[08:03] <BFTD> vidd I dunno
[08:03] <System79|IdLe> >.>
[08:03] <System79|IdLe> Dang
[08:03] <vidd> can you grep nano?
[08:04] <BFTD> blacklist r818x
[08:04] <BFTD> blacklist r8187
[08:04] <BFTD> those are the only ones that might be
[08:04] <BFTD> not sure though
[08:04] <System79|IdLe> try it?
[08:04] <vidd> try sudo modprobe bcm4400
[08:05] <vidd> or bcm44xx
[08:05] <Jester45> why grep nano
[08:05] <System79|IdLe> Wireless network ftw :(
[08:06] <vidd> but the 44-series SHOULD auto detect (if i recall correctly)
[08:06] <Jester45> if you want to read something just cat file | grep term
[08:06] <BFTD> FATAL: Module bcm4400 not found.
[08:06] <System79|IdLe> nano is ftw jester
[08:06] <vidd> ty Jester45 i forgot how
[08:06] <System79|IdLe> thats hip, new
[08:06] <System79|IdLe> :p
[08:06] <wbadger> heh you dont need to cat a file and pipe to grep
[08:06] <wbadger> you just grep "term" file
[08:06] <System79|IdLe> Experts are arguaing
[08:06] <System79|IdLe> >.>
[08:07] <vidd> System79, yeah...for someone who was idle, you sure spoke alot!
[08:07] <System79> =D
[08:07] <System79> Yup i did :\
[08:08] <vidd> BFTD, what about bcm44xx?
[08:08] <BFTD> same
[08:08] <vidd> hrm....
[08:08] <System79> BFTD, bash your box :)
[08:08] <System79> Always helps for me
[08:08] <System79> i buy new stuff and it all works again
[08:09] <BFTD> can someone please kb System79
[08:09] <System79> ..
[08:09] <Jester45> why
[08:09] <System79> You dont want to
[08:10] <BFTD> take your stuff to offtopic
[08:10] <System79> Hey relax, i gave you a solution.
[08:10] <BFTD> no
[08:10] <vidd> BFTD, is this a wifi card?
[08:10] <BFTD> no
[08:10] <System79> System79> BFTD, bash your box :) <-- If nothing everhelps thats the best solution
[08:11] <BFTD> its an onboard wired networking card
[08:11] <vidd> hrm...it should auto-load....
[08:13] <vidd> =\
[08:18] <BFTD> where would the driver be?
[08:20] <BFTD> brb
[08:23] <vidd> any luck?
[08:24] <BFTD> ARGH
[08:24] <BFTD> it didn't work
[09:04] <Parkotron> Alternate 7.04 install has been stuck at 77% "Gathering information for installation report...". Any ideas?
[09:04] <vidd> let it run
[09:05] <Parkotron> It's been 34 minutes.
[09:05] <Parkotron> Hard dirve activity light isn't on either.
[09:05] <Jester45> cd stop spinning?
[09:05] <vidd> it is most likely checking the internet
[09:06] <Parkotron> CD is not spinning.
[09:07] <Parkotron> What would it be doing on the internet?
[09:07] <Jester45> checking for the repo servers
[09:08] <Jester45> what install cd are you using
[09:08] <Parkotron> Alternate.
[09:09] <System79> Why do u use alternate anyway :p
[09:10] <Parkotron> Low RAM system.
[09:10] <Parkotron> AMD K6 550MHz, 128MB RAM.
[09:12] <Jester45> System79, most people use it once they try it
[09:12] <Jester45> i use it vidd uses
[09:12] <System79> Mmk i just wondered
[09:12] <Jester45> its faster and stabler
[09:13] <System79> its the same version of xubuntu except theres no liive run and you can set custom options
[09:13] <System79> if im right
[09:13] <System79> ;/
[09:14] <Jester45> yes
[09:14] <Jester45> but it uses a diffrent installer
[09:15] <vidd> more mature...stable...leaves you with a fully functional desktop 100% of the time...not 50%
[09:15] <vidd> =]
[09:15] <System79> Oo <3
[09:19] <darrend> anyone know of an audio player (gtk) that (a) doesn't suck, and (b) doesn't lock the sound device permanently after using it
[09:19] <Jester45> !sonata
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sonata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <Jester45> !info sonata
[09:20] <ubotu> sonata: GTK+ client for the Music Player Daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 149 kB, installed size 580 kB
[09:20] <darrend> Jester45: I'll take a look, thanks
[09:26] <darrend> how do you make it read the library?
[09:59] <khatuido> someone success install flash on amd64 ?
[10:00] <wbadger> does intalling it on firefox32 count?
[10:01] <khatuido> yes
[10:02] <khatuido> u success it?
[10:02] <wbadger> khatuido, yeah, but I used packages I found on the net, wait a sec
[10:03] <System79> Khatuido
[10:04] <System79> Have u got your flash working yet?
[10:04] <khatuido> no
[10:04] <System79> You need to install it on firefox32 btw
[10:04] <System79> ;)
[10:04] <System79> Then its eas
[10:04] <System79> easy*
[10:04] <System79> I'd help you
[10:04] <khatuido> how instal firefox32
[10:04] <khatuido> install
[10:05] <khatuido> i got one firefox but don't know the version
[10:05] <wbadger> khatuido, I used this thread http://allostalk.com/showthread.php?s=3ddbb81fc8eea4b341a8df240c9622b2&t=202537
[10:05] <System79> Think i used the same
[10:05] <System79> 64 bit process with 32 bit firefox and libraries?
[10:05] <System79> >.>
[10:05] <wbadger> khatuido, and you probably have a 64bit firefox that came with the 64 bit system
[10:05] <System79> Yep
[10:05] <System79> :p
[10:06] <khatuido> oh oki
[10:06] <khatuido> i will read it
[10:07] <khatuido> thanks look good
[10:07] <khatuido> i will try this way
[10:24] <khatuido> wbadger: i got a problem i don't got the "flashplayer.xpt" file
[10:24] <wbadger> khatuido, how come?
[10:24] <khatuido> i install firefox32_deb
[10:25] <khatuido> but then for install flash
[10:25] <khatuido> they said
[10:25] <khatuido> sudo mv -f /usr/local/firefox32/plugins/flashplayer.xpt /usr/local/firefox32/plugins/flash7/
[10:25] <wbadger> khatuido, oh don't worry about that
[10:25] <khatuido> but i don't got the file "flashplayer.xpt"
[10:26] <wbadger> khatuido, they said only if you have a previously installed flash version and you want to upgrade, then you need to do that
[10:26] <khatuido> oh oki
[10:26] <wbadger> "If you have flash 7 installed we will first move the flash 7 files in case we ever want to use them again."
[10:26] <khatuido> oh sorry
[10:26] <khatuido> i didn't read fine
[10:26] <wbadger> khatuido, don't worry :)
[10:28] <khatuido> english is not my main langage so sometime i misread
[10:29] <wbadger> mine neither
[10:30] <khatuido> where do u from?
[10:30] <wbadger> I'm from Israel
[10:30] <wbadger> and you?
[10:30] <khatuido> oki me France
[10:31] <wbadger> nice]
[10:35] <khatuido> i don't got file .macromedia
[10:35] <khatuido> i need create it?
[10:35] <wbadger> khatuido, don't create it, I think it creates itself after you try the flash player
[10:35] <khatuido> i try
[10:35] <wbadger> khatuido, if it already works, you don't need to change anything
[10:36] <System79> ?
[10:36] <khatuido> humm
[10:36] <khatuido> but i need choose the firefox32
[10:36] <khatuido> how i can launch it?
[10:36] <System79> khatuido
[10:36] <System79> can i make a suggestion?
[10:36] <khatuido> yes?
[10:36] <khatuido> yes?
[10:36] <System79> You know the application bar at the top of your screen right?
[10:36] <wbadger> well you can open console and change directory to /usr/local/firefox32 then write "./firefox32"
[10:36] <System79> wbadger theres an easier way ^^
[10:37] <wbadger> khatuido, or it should actually be in the XFCE menu :P near the regular firefox
[10:37] <System79> Right click the bar at the top of your screen
[10:37] <System79> wbadger you can just rightclick your screen, then say create new item
[10:37] <System79> then create a launcher
[10:38] <System79> with the command firefox32 &
[10:38] <System79> then ur done
[10:38] <System79> ;p
[10:38] <System79> at least thats how i did it with 64 bit xubuntu
[10:38] <wbadger> yeah I did that.. and what do you need the "&" for?
[10:38] <System79> I have no idea really ;p
[10:38] <System79> Its supposed to be there though
[10:38] <System79> >.>
[10:39] <System79> I believe i read that if you dont do it it will start the 64 bit firefox
[10:39] <System79> >.>
[10:39] <wbadger> System79, mine doesn't have it :P
[10:39] <System79> Im just telling what i have read ;)
[10:39] <wbadger> and it works fine of course
[10:39] <System79> And now ill be off to gaming
[10:39] <System79> :x
[10:39] <wbadger> have fun
[10:39] <System79> Thanks :)
[10:43] <khatuido> System79: what did i need put in command?
[10:43] <wbadger> khatuido, put firefox32
[10:43] <khatuido> oh i guess it's the way to firefox32
[10:44] <wbadger> khatuido, i think you only need firefox32 because the package creates a link in your /usr/bin ldir
[10:47] <khatuido> it still said i don't got flash
[10:48] <wbadger> khatuido, I want you to try something
[10:48] <khatuido> what?
[10:49] <wbadger> khatuido, in the directory /usr/local/firefox32, do you have an actualy "plugins" directory or a link to one?
[10:49] <wbadger> you can check with the command "file /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"
[10:49] <khatuido> yes i got
[10:49] <wbadger> what do you have, a link or a directory?
[10:50] <khatuido> oups
[10:51] <wbadger> what does oups mean? :P a directory or a link?
[10:51] <khatuido> i got this /usr/local/firefox32/plugins: symbolic link to `/usr/lib32/firefox32/plugins'
[10:51] <wbadger> ok so try this
[10:51] <wbadger> first lets delete the link or if you want you can rename it
[10:51] <khatuido> how delete the link?
[10:52] <wbadger> so "rm /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"
[10:52] <wbadger> well maybe it won't let you delete so try adding "sudo": "sudo rm /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"
[10:52] <khatuido> they didn't say error
[10:52] <wbadger> ok
[10:53] <wbadger> now try: "sudo mkdir /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"
[10:53] <khatuido> now i got /usr/local/firefox32/plugins: ERROR: cannot open `/usr/local/firefox32/plugins' (No such file or directory)
[10:53] <khatuido> when i try ur command
[10:54] <wbadger> ok that's good, now try the next command
[10:54] <wbadger> that was "sudo mkdir /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"
[10:54] <khatuido> then?
[10:54] <khatuido> i try install
[10:54] <khatuido> like they explain
[10:54] <wbadger> wait
[10:54] <khatuido> again?
[10:55] <wbadger> now lastly try "sudo cp /usr/lib32/firefox32/plugins/* /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"
[10:55] <wbadger> now lastly try "sudo cp /usr/lib32/firefox32/plugins/* /usr/local/firefox32/plugins/"
[10:56] <wbadger> khatuido, ok?
[10:56] <khatuido> cp: omission du rpertoire `/usr/lib32/firefox32/plugins/flash7'
[10:56] <khatuido> i need create flash7 ?
[10:56] <wbadger> no
[10:56] <khatuido> they said this
[10:57] <khatuido> cp: omission du rpertoire `/usr/lib32/firefox32/plugins/flash7'
[10:57] <wbadger> it's ok
[10:57] <wbadger> I don't know why do you have that folder but it isn't important
[10:57] <wbadger> check now if flash works?
[10:58] <khatuido> doesn't work
[10:58] <khatuido> but ur last command said weird message
[10:58] <wbadger> the message about omitting the flash7 directory is ok. please show me what is in the directory /usr/local/firefox32/plugins
[10:59] <wbadger> (use the command ls: "ls /usr/local/firefox32/plugins"
[10:59] <khatuido> flashplayer.xpt  libflashplayer.so  libnpp.so  libnullplugin.so
[11:00] <wbadger> that is what I have also.
[11:00] <wbadger> what does the command "which firefox32" say?
[11:00] <khatuido> this /usr/local/bin/firefox32
[11:02] <wbadger> did you close firefox and start it again before you checked if flash works?
[11:02] <khatuido> humm not all
[11:03] <wbadger> :) then do that please, and when you open firefox write "about:plugins" in the address bar. that way we will know for sure.
[11:05] <khatuido> it looks work
[11:05] <khatuido> :)
[11:05] <wbadger> :)
[11:05] <wbadger> good job
[11:06] <khatuido> thanks u
[11:06] <wbadger> no problem
[11:06] <khatuido> but i still got security problem
[11:06] <wbadger> what security problem?
[11:07] <khatuido> in fact i try install flash for one game
[11:07] <khatuido> and they said ly flash player don't accept launch the game
[11:07] <wbadger> what game?
[11:08] <khatuido> dofus
[11:10] <khatuido> i success
[11:10] <khatuido> :)
[11:10] <wbadger> :)
[11:10] <khatuido> i can play
[11:10] <khatuido> lol
[11:11] <wbadger> have fun then
[11:11] <khatuido> oh i got a question
[11:11] <khatuido> amsn can be antialiasing in amd64
[11:11] <khatuido> ?
[11:11] <wbadger> sorry I don't know..
[11:11] <khatuido> cos now it's not pretty
[11:11] <wbadger> I use pidgin
[11:12] <wbadger> I think it is related more to x.org and not amsn, but I don't know a lot about antialising
[11:17] <khatuido_> wbadger: i got dc
[11:17] <wbadger> dc?
[11:17] <khatuido_> disconnect
[11:17] <wbadger> ah
[11:18] <khatuido_> what do u say about antialising?
[11:18] <khatuido_> antialiasing
[11:18] <wbadger> I said
[11:18] <System79> Meh
 I think it is related more to x.org and not amsn, but I don't know a lot about antialising
[11:18] <System79> wbadger >.>
[11:18] <System79> My kernel is dead
[11:18] <wbadger> System79, would you happen to know anything about antialising?
[11:18] <System79> Not really
[11:18] <wbadger> why?
[11:18] <khatuido_> lol why system79?
[11:18] <System79> Installed NVIDIAs drivers
[11:19] <System79> from nvidia.com
[11:19] <System79> next thing i know is that X Server wont start anymore
[11:19] <System79> >.>
[11:19] <System79> im on irssi now >.>
[11:19] <wbadger> did you change /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[11:19] <khatuido_> who?
[11:19] <System79> No the installer did =.=
[11:20] <wbadger> System79, does the X server give any error?
[11:20] <khatuido_> oh i need install my ATI driver?
[11:20] <System79> Yes
[11:20] <System79> The kernel interface has errors hold on
[11:20] <System79> Ill check with debug
[11:20] <wbadger> khatuido_, usually you can do it by entering the Restricted Drivers Manager and just click the little box
[11:21] <System79> Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module
[11:21] <wbadger> figures..
[11:21] <System79> >.>
[11:21] <wbadger> ok so.. you wouldn't be able to pastebin your xorg.conf file would you
[11:21] <System79> I cant figure out where it fails loading
[11:22] <System79> I can try
[11:22] <System79> I installed links
[11:22] <System79> >.>
[11:22] <System79> I remember when i had these problems with gentoo
[11:22] <System79> =x
[11:22] <khatuido_> oh yes i didn't install it
[11:22] <khatuido_> thanks wbadger
[11:22] <wbadger> System79, what does it say under the nvidia device section?
[11:22] <wbadger> khatuido_, np :]
[11:23] <System79> I have no graphic interface whatsoever
[11:23] <System79> So what section
[11:23] <System79> >.>
[11:23] <wbadger> inside the xore.conf file
[11:23] <System79> Let me check
[11:24] <wbadger> System79, ok, it should start with Section "Device", and inside the section you should have Driver and a value like nvidia or nv
[11:24] <System79> I have found something yes
[11:24] <System79> it says my video card type
[11:25] <System79> driver "nvidia"
[11:25] <System79> busid "1:0:0"
[11:25] <wbadger> ok, I suggest you try changing the driver to "nv" so you can enter X again. it will not try to load the new nvidia driver but at least you will have a graphical interface
[11:26] <System79> Bah
[11:27] <wbadger> did you change it'?
[11:27] <System79> Yes
[11:27] <System79> Problem is its completely dead
[11:27] <wbadger> what do you mean by that..
[11:27] <System79> Could you open up your xorg.conf and tell me which standard driver is loaded?
[11:28] <System79> I get alot of debug errors using NV
[11:28] <wbadger> System79, I have the propriatory driver installed, so "nvidia"
[11:28] <wbadger> proprietary*
[11:29] <System79> mm
[11:29] <wbadger> System79, maybe you should ask in #ubuntu, I'm not very good with kernel problems.. I can only help with stuff that happened to me
[11:30] <wbadger> and I simply installed the proprietary driver by the Restricted Drivers Manager. BTW why didn't you use that?
[11:30] <System79> Im game addict =/
[11:30] <System79> W:ET keeps crashing without the new drivers
[11:30] <System79> =P
[11:31] <System79> I get some errors in the commandline here
[11:31] <wbadger> well most games won't work well at all with old drivers.. but the restricted drivers manager gives you the latest binary drivers
[11:32] <wbadger> System79, I suggest again that you try #ubuntu..
[11:32] <System79> Bah ill try
[11:33] <wbadger> sorry I can't help anymore...
[11:34] <khatuido> sorry sorry i change my micro sound with alsamixer
[11:34] <khatuido> how can i save the setting?
[11:34] <khatuido> cos when i reboot i lost it
[11:35] <wbadger> khatuido, maybe you need to save the session
[11:35] <khatuido> how save session?
[11:36] <wbadger> khatuido, well, you can open XFCE menu -> Settings -> Sessions and Startup
[11:37] <wbadger> is the option "Promt on logout" checked there?
[11:37] <khatuido> ok
[11:37] <khatuido> i will see next reboot
[11:38] <khatuido> :)
[11:38] <wbadger> when you logout you can check a box to save the session.. :) don't forget to check it
[11:38] <khatuido> wbadger do u know a software who can save a part of the screen?
[11:38] <khatuido> on windows i used camstudio
[11:39] <wbadger> like a screenshot?
[11:39] <khatuido> and i know there is a software on linux call "wink"
[11:39] <wbadger> or more like a video?
[11:39] <khatuido> video
[11:39] <khatuido> video of a part of my screen
[11:39] <wbadger> sorry I don't know "wink"
[11:40] <khatuido> but wink is not available for amd64
[11:40] <wbadger> khatuido, oh well you can still run 32bit applications
[11:40] <wbadger> just install the package "linux32"
[11:41] <khatuido> oh?
[11:41] <wbadger> khatuido, and then you just run the application with "linux32" in front. I'm not sure it will always work but it is worth the try
[11:41] <wbadger> khatuido, install it with "sudo apt-get update", and the "sudo apt-get install linux32"
[11:42] <khatuido> then how it work?
[11:43] <wbadger> khatuido, if you want to run for example "wink" then you write "linux32 wink" instead of just "wink" :P
[11:43] <khatuido> i need install
[11:44] <khatuido> but look work
[11:44] <wbadger> I don't understand
[11:49] <khatuido> linux32 is goo
[11:49] <khatuido> good :)
[11:49] <wbadger> :)
[11:50] <System79> wbadger
[11:50] <System79> Got it to work again
[11:50] <wbadger> yeah?
[11:50] <System79> :)
[11:50] <wbadger> nice job :)
[11:50] <wbadger> well it's time I go now
[11:50] <wbadger> good night
[11:50] <System79> good night
[11:50] <khatuido> oki thanks for all
[11:50] <khatuido> :)
[11:50] <wbadger> :)
[11:50] <Limteeros> Can anyone help me with FreeNX?


[05:41] <slangasek> bkerensa: hey, so what's the address for the Mozilla office?
[19:35] <bkerensa> slangasek: I'm unsure its right next to Powells Books back entrance
[19:35] <bkerensa> its in the brewery building there
[19:35] <bkerensa> slangasek: can you upload xubuntu-docs
[19:35] <bkerensa> its ready
[20:39] <slangasek> bkerensa: *x*ubuntu-docs?  Shouldn't that be uploaded by someone involved with Xubuntu?
[20:39] <slangasek> bkerensa: Powell's Books back entrance... is it well marked? :)  If not, who can tell us the address so I can tell people where to go next week?
[20:40] <bkerensa> slangasek: that would be ideal if anyone related to docs had upload rights
[20:40] <bkerensa> :)
[20:40] <bkerensa> bkero:  ^ address
[20:40] <slangasek> erm?  surely someone involved in xubuntu development would have upload rights
[20:40] <bkerensa> nope
[20:40] <bkerensa> :)
[20:40] <slangasek> ...
[20:40] <bkerensa> slangasek: their project lead asked if I could ask someone to upload it for them
[20:40] <bkerensa> lol
[20:41] <slangasek> is xubuntu-docs not in the xubuntu package set?
[20:41] <bkerensa> oh ok
[20:41] <bkerensa> it seems they do have a uploader
 we have just finished our updates for xubuntu docs and we need an upload, but our uploaders aren't around
[20:41] <bkerensa> slangasek: even Ubuntu Docs committers dont have PPU
[20:42] <slangasek> I'm not talking about Ubuntu Docs committers, I'm talking about xubuntu devs
[20:42] <slangasek> the xubuntu community should be the go-to people for xubuntu-docs uploads
[20:42] <slangasek> I don't really want to be on the hook for breaking the xubuntu docs when I'm not involved with that flavor
[20:43] <bkerensa> ok
[20:45] <bkerensa> slangasek: so looks like bkero was supposed to file a servicenow request for the knitting circl
[20:45] <bkerensa> just waiting to hear back from him
[20:52] <bkerensa> slangasek: 1120 NW Couch St. Suite 320
[20:55] <bkerensa> slangasek: that knitting was going to be monday right?
[21:06] <slangasek> 09-09-2013 16:15:37 <<EMAIL_ADDRESS>bkerensa: I would say Monday the 23rd?
[21:06] <slangasek> 09-09-2013 16:15:41 <<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Err, Tuesday the 24th
[21:06] <bkerensa> 24th
[21:06] <bkerensa> ok
[21:06] <slangasek> bkerensa: ^^ so that says Tuesday, not Monday
[21:06] <slangasek> bkerensa: but maybe you can confirm that this is actually the day the office is expecting us? :)
[21:06] <bkerensa> slangasek: so bkero apparently is away and unsure if he will make the 24th
[21:07] <bkerensa> but a guy named uberj will be expecting us
[21:07] <slangasek> ok
[21:07] <slangasek> where is bkero?  New Orleans? :)
[21:07] <bkerensa> idk
[21:07] <slangasek> k
[21:07] <bkerensa> he apparently didnt even file the servicenow request
[21:07] <bkerensa> :P
[21:07] <bkerensa> which is needed for people to drop in
[21:07] <slangasek> SCORE
[21:07] <bkerensa> well
[21:07] <bkerensa> protocol
[21:07] <bkerensa> so
[21:07] <bkerensa> uberj has offered to sponsor
[21:07] <slangasek> So... am I safe to send out invite emails about this?
[21:07] <bkerensa> apparently he has been to a knitting circle before
[21:08] <slangasek> what's uberj's real name? :)
[21:08] <bkerensa> slangasek: Jacques Uber
[21:09] <slangasek> huh, not a name I know :)
[21:09] <slangasek> cool, meeting new people
[21:10] <bkerensa> he is pretty cool
[21:10] <bkerensa> even if he uses Gentoo
[21:12] <bkerensa> <bkerensa> uberj: <slangasek> So... am I safe to send out invite emails about this?
[21:12] <bkerensa> <uberj> bkerensa: idk
[21:13] <bkerensa> <uberj> I'm just the sponsor
 which I assume just sits with the group and makes sure people don't jump on the furniture and stuff
[21:13] <bkerensa> :)
[21:13] <bkerensa> slangasek: so I would go ahead
[21:13] <bkerensa> I will be there
[21:14] <bkerensa> what time do you plan on suggesting people start arriving?
[21:14] <bkerensa> morning for me is 11:00am
[21:14] <bkerensa> :)
[21:19] <slangasek> bkerensa: I've told him 9-10
[21:20] <bkerensa> hmm ok
[21:20] <bkerensa> works for me
[21:20] <bkerensa> lol
[21:20] <bkerensa> I will try to wake early that day
[21:20] <bkerensa> kees: hope to see you
[21:22] <slangasek> bkerensa: well, you're allowed to roll in late ;)
[21:23] <bkerensa> yes
[21:35] <bkerensa> slangasek: https://mail.mozilla.com/home/publiccalendar@mozilla.com/MOZPORTLAND.html?view=month&action=view&invId=41c66ea8-7d47-4eb5-9a41-252e092ddbe9%3a9572-9571&pstat=AC&instStartTime=1380038400000&instDuration=30600000
[22:33] <bkerensa> slangasek: Errors were encountered while processing:
[22:33] <bkerensa>  man-db
[22:33] <bkerensa> E: Problem executing scripts DPkg::Post-Invoke 'adequate --help >/dev/null 2>&1 || exit 0; exec adequate --debconf --user nobody --pending'
[22:33] <bkerensa> E: Sub-process returned an error code
[22:33] <bkerensa> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[22:33] <bkerensa> =/
[23:00] <bkerensa> bdmurray: do you know if anyone is working on making usb-creator-gtk work?
[23:00] <bkerensa> its been broken since 12.04


[10:04] <elacheche> Kilos: did you got a good answer about the LoCo Pack & USbs?
[10:09] <Kilos> i saw the mails ty elacheche
[10:11] <elacheche> Thank you for reminding me of that! x)
[10:12] <Kilos> lol
[18:29] <Changizww> Hi, i'm using xubuntu 14.04! when i start and login to my user (and other users) desktop doesn't come up and it only shows wallpaper (however i could login by ctrl+alt+f1 and used startx to post this), can anyone help?! i remember i had this problem before and it was fixed by entering a couple of commands, but i can't remember now... thanks in advance
[18:33] <wxl> Changizww: typically #xubuntu would be the place to go for support
[18:36] <Changizww> umm... thanks, but i tried it but no one is answering there, i think everybody is asleep there
[18:36] <wxl> Changizww: since they are the experts, that would be the place to ask for help. you could also try your loco team's irc channel if you want local support.
[18:37] <Changizww> really really thanks, i'll try that :)
[18:38] <belkinsa> Changizww: or you can ask in #xubuntu as that this their support channel.
[18:39] <belkinsa> Changizww: And most lurk here on IRC, just ask your question and wait for the answer.
[18:39] <belkinsa> You can also ask/search on AskUbuntu or the Ubuntu Forums.
[18:39] <wxl> or the mailing lists..
[18:40] <Changizww> (y)
[18:40] <belkinsa> That too.  Thanks wxl.  But the Xubuntu one.
[18:53] <belkinsa> Are the LoCo's of Oceania dead or do we still have some folks here who are still active?
[19:26] <Changizww> btw i found the problem guys... my root drive was 96% full (just to know) thanks all


[11:16] <uovobw> TiMiDo: and when will it be up in mirrors for testing? like the unstable branch, i mean...
[11:17] <jonny> I would like to upgrade from 4.10 to current... if possible complete n00b
[11:17] <Belutz> the_daemon, install mysql-serve and phpmyadmin from synaptic
[11:17] <the_daemon> done
[11:17] <the_daemon> ;)
[11:17] <crimsun> jonny: yes.
[11:17] <the_daemon> i installed lamp...
[11:17] <the_daemon> now im getting it all working
[11:17] <jonny> how?
[11:17] <ZzeCoOl> NiGhTHiNG:  any progress?
[11:18] <the_daemon> correction: now im HOPING to get it all working ;)
[11:18] <efkoj> NiGhTHiNG my resolution is very low now i wanne put it higher but when i go to preferences i cannot change it is this becouse i havnt installed a driver yet
[11:18] <B|4ckm0r3> NiGhTHiNG: maybe xorg hates me but it didn't work at all
[11:18] <Belutz> the_daemon, go to http://your.ip.address/phpmyadmin/
[11:18] <khakionion> sounds like you need to add the resolutions to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, efkoj. had to do that for my GeForceFX + MAG 786PF
[11:18] <Myk> belutz any Idea how to get my files from notebook without floppy and broken mounting system
[11:18] <MFen> anyone here using linux-wlan-ng?  i'm getting "/etc/wlan/shared line 91: /etc/wlan/shared.* no such file or directory"
[11:18] <MFen> timido made a suggestion but it doesn't make sense
[11:18] <Myk> ?
[11:18] <Belutz> Myk, i'm thinking for it :-)
[11:18] <sector10> do i need to change gtk styles and fonts?
[11:18] <Moe|Joe> w00t
[11:18] <Moe|Joe> ubuntu booted up
[11:18] <Elsan> muszek: Edubuntu and Ubuntu are not meant to be seen as distinct projects; Edubuntu is part of the Ubuntu project, and they are both part of one development team that contributes to the whole. Edubuntu is Ubuntu with a different default setup.
[11:19] <NiGhTHiNG> B|4ckm0r3: weird... still freezing?
[11:19] <hidari> I did a brand new install of Ubuntu Breezy from an ISO and everything worked fine.  Now out of the blue when I login to GDM it says "Your $HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions"  Everything looks fine as far as owner/group/permissions.  How do I get rid of that message so my auto login works again.
[11:19] <NiGhTHiNG> B|4ckm0r3: Do you happen to have several display adapters there?
[11:19] <jonny> hello? can anyone help me?
[11:19] <the_daemon> belutz, i did, but it says "error: The configuration file now needs a secret passphrase (blowfish_secret)."
[11:19] <Myk> belutz thanks :)
[11:19] <the_daemon> ?
[11:19] <sector10> _andrea: you there?
[11:19] <muszek> Elsan: thanks, I'll stick to it then.
[11:19] <NiGhTHiNG> efkoj: Ummm... sorry, I'm starting to get tired here... I'm finishing with ZzeCoOl and I'm off
[11:20] <Belutz> the_daemon, you have to edit the config.php for phpmyadmin
[11:20] <ZzeCoOl> im lucky :)
[11:20] <ZzeCoOl> ty
[11:20] <jonny> I really need some help, can someone help me?
[11:20] <the_daemon> config.inc.php ?
[11:20] <Elsan> muszek: np, is it pretty good form what you've seen? I'm interested in it for developping countries.
[11:20] <ZzeCoOl> jonny jus hsot your question and someone maybe can help u
[11:20] <ZzeCoOl> just shot*
[11:21] <logikal> How do i install ATI's accelerated video drivers?
[11:21] <khakionion> jonny: upgrading from 4.10 to 5.10, right?
[11:21] <jonny> correct
[11:21] <crimsun> logikal: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:21] <the_daemon> belutz? config.ini.php? there is no config.php ....
[11:21] <logikal> Where do I get the Accelerated drivers?
[11:21] <Belutz> the_daemon, yup, that's the one, i forgot the filename :p
[11:22] <the_daemon> ok
[11:22] <efkoj> ok sorry i have a noob question i have just download the driver for my video card. (this is first time ever linux) now i have a tar.gz i have unzipped it...but hmm what now? when i click install.sn it opens a source file. How do i need to run this Thx in advance..
[11:22] <vbgunz> anybody know of any performance tricks for Ubuntu Breezy?
[11:22] <jonny> i would not like to have to use a CD, though
[11:22] <logikal> efkoj, you gotta build it.
[11:22] <ogra> muszek, sudo apt-get remove edubuntu-artwork libqt3-mt gcompris blender scribus openssh-server postgresql-8.0 samba schooltool
[11:22] <the_daemon> belutz, i dont think it can be...  it includes   "please do not edit this file..." lol
[11:22] <efkoj> logikal how do i do this :$
[11:23] <khakionion> theoretically, you'd just change all the instances of "warty" to "breezy" in /etc/apt/sources.list and do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:23] <Belutz> Myk, try this sudo mkdir /media/usb then sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb vfat rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0 (i presume your usb drive is using FAT)
[11:23] <ogra> muszek, copy and paste the above line, do: sudo rm -rf /opt/ltsp and you got ubuntu ;)
[11:23] <logikal> efkoj, you gotta CD to the DIR in Terminal and then you have to  " ./configure " " make " and " make install "
[11:23] <muszek> ogra: any good reason to remove?  apart from saving space
[11:23] <jonny> I would like to upgrade from 4.10 to 5.10
[11:23] <ogra> muszek, that will give you an origianl ubuntu if you want one
[11:23] <efkoj> ok thx let me try
[11:23] <logikal> You're going to need to download a lot of stuff
[11:23] <logikal> lol
[11:23] <Myk> belutz Ill try, it is fat16
[11:23] <mirak> what is the interest of having a K7 linux kernel instead of 386 ?
[11:24] <mirak> can I boot a K7 kernel if I have an amd64 ?
[11:24] <Belutz> the_daemon, it's ok, find the lines for username for logging in and password, and the security method
[11:24] <sf_> i am trying to get my sound working but alsaconf is missing. anyone know why this would be?
[11:24] <Blake_Seven> anyone recommend a ssh client for xp ?
[11:24] <muszek> Elsan: I haven't been looking into it.  It's got some additional packages meant for kids and teachers.  Artwork is different.
[11:24] <slyjab> can anyone tell me why i can't play a .wmv movie in mplayer or totem if i have the w32codecs already installed
[11:24] <muszek> ogra: thanks
[11:24] <khakionion> but i don't know what could/would go wrong...have you installed a lot of software or done a lot of customizations apart from apt, jonny?
[11:24] <silasj> hello all
[11:24] <silasj> hey, how can I get the installed files from apt-get?
[11:24] <NiGhTHiNG> ZzeCoOl: Try this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3522
[11:24] <B|4ckm0r3> NiGhTHiNG: no!I've 1 video card...and 1 monitor!
[11:24] <silasj> installed programs?
[11:24] <ogra> muszek, youre welcome... if you got questions you can ask in #edubuntu :)
[11:24] <jonny> i have installed No software
[11:24] <khakionion> Blake_Seven: PuTTY is a great Windows ssh client.
[11:24] <Belutz> the_daemon, and please read this documentation http://www.phpmyadmin.net/documentation/ :-)
[11:24] <mirak> mkdir: cannot create directory `log': Permission denied
[11:24] <mirak> ?
[11:25] <mirak> I am root an I can't create a directory ?
[11:25] <XiCillin> su mkdir
[11:25] <XiCillin> sudo* mkdir
[11:25] <XiCillin> already exist?
[11:25] <ZzeCoOl> all trdy diid
[11:25] <ZzeCoOl> allready did
[11:25] <ZzeCoOl> but it doesnt working
[11:25] <silasj> any idea to search installed programs?
[11:25] <NiGhTHiNG> ZzeCoOl: What do you get?
[11:25] <ZzeCoOl> nothing
[11:25] <silasj> wish apt-get or apt-cache?
[11:25] <ZzeCoOl> its stops there
[11:26] <NiGhTHiNG> ZzeCoOl: Did you try 2,0 ?
[11:26] <umbre> how can I upgrade all my packages to the newest version from Internet please ?
[11:26] <silasj> umbre, apt-get upgrade
[11:26] <khakionion> jonny: well, then i'd do just that, change "warty" to "breezy" and run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[11:26] <slyjab> ubuntu: tell me about w32codecs
[11:26] <ZzeCoOl> i think  that wiondows need to be the first disc in boot sequence to get boot
[11:26] <jonny> I do not understand that
[11:26] <NiGhTHiNG> ZzeCoOl: Oh, it's not the first duh, hang on
[11:26] <ZzeCoOl> no i dont try 2,0
[11:26] <jonny> i am a noob
[11:26] <XiCillin> does anyone else crash when they click the 'new login' button in gnome?
[11:26] <sf_> is alsaconf missing from ubuntu?
[11:26] <crimsun> sf_: ripped out, yes.
[11:26] <vbgunz> !tell slyjab w32codecs
[11:26] <umbre> silasj : I tried... I have for example libpcap0.8 installed... how could I make him see and update to 0.9.4 ? (current version of libpcap)
[11:27] <jonny> i would like step by step... if posible
[11:27] <efkoj> logikal it says no such file
[11:27] <samue1> XiCillin, new login works fine for me
[11:27] <sf_> crimsun: why? is it unnecessary? (i have an ancient ISA card)
[11:27] <silasj> umbre, first [apt-get update] ; then [apt-get upgrade]
[11:27] <crimsun> sf_: it's largely unnecessary.
[11:27] <crimsun> sf_: which isa sound card?
[11:27] <silasj> umbre, but you must be sure version 0.9.4 is already released in .deb packages (ubuntu packages)
[11:27] <ZzeCoOl> NiGhTHiNG:  and this is my Device.map
[11:27] <ZzeCoOl> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3523
[11:27] <ZzeCoOl> may help u
[11:28] <Myk> belutz there must be some syntax mistake, mount just writes help at screen
[11:28] <samue1> i have all my media stored on hda2 i would like to click the music folder in my home dir and it opens the music folder in hda2, can someone tell me how i would go about this?
[11:28] <sf_> crimsun: sound blaster 16 (it doesn't support pnp)
[11:28] <Belutz> Myk, hmm
[11:28] <slyjab> can anyone tell me why i can't play a .wmv movie in mplayer or totem if i have the w32codecs already installed
[11:28] <NiGhTHiNG> ZzeCoOl: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3524
[11:28] <umbre> silasj : oh well it's not I guess, that's my problem, thanks a lot
[11:28] <Belutz> Myk, wait
[11:28] <khakionion> jonny: edit /etc/apt/sources.list with whatever editor you like, and change all the instances of the word "warty" to "breezy," then run the command "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and it should do the upgrade
[11:28] <Morgrog> Hello everyone :)  I don't want to butt in on anything but I got the following problem when installing (from scratch) ubuntu 5.10... it says I have a dependency problem with memtest and can't install ubuntu-minimal :o what can I do? :(
[11:28] <ZzeCoOl> ok
[11:29] <ZzeCoOl> il try this one
[11:29] <ZzeCoOl> ^^
[11:29] <ZzeCoOl> ty NiGhTHiNG
[11:29] <mirak> look at this ------->
[11:29] <mirak> root@mirak:/root/.synaptic# ls
[11:29] <mirak> lsald: log: Permission denied
[11:29] <samue1> slyjab tried right clicking and selecting open with? some of my media files need to be opened like that?
[11:29] <NiGhTHiNG> ZzeCoOl: Let me know if it's good
[11:29] <mirak> lsald: log: Permission denied
[11:29] <nalioth> jonny: before "apt-get dist-upgrade" you should type "sudp apt-get update"
[11:29] <mirak> I am root, how can this be possible ?
[11:29] <slyjab> samue1: tried that ...no dice
[11:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jonny about upgrade2breezy
[11:30] <khakionion> nalioth: right, thanks :)
[11:30] <the_daemon> nalioth? are you OP?
[11:30] <lsald> mirak, what log?
[11:30] <jonny> where do you edit "etc/apt/sources.list
[11:30] <slyjab> gives me the codec error ... and i have installed them, removed them and reinstalled them
[11:30] <NiGhTHiNG> mirak: Check permissions
[11:30] <samue1> slyjab sorry other than that i dunno, they just work for me
[11:30] <NiGhTHiNG> mirak: And if they're okay, check mount options
[11:30] <nalioth> the_daemon: OP? what do you need?
[11:30] <matiasp> hi there, i have a windows xp box and installed breezy for dual-boot. i'd like to access my existing NTFS partitions via the captive-ntfs driver. however it seems that it requires the kernel sources, and i can't find a package for kernel-source 2.6.12 (the lastest is 2.6.11). any idea how to get the 2.6.12 sources?
[11:31] <logikal> nalioth, hey what's up?
[11:31] <TiMiDo> hey
[11:31] <Nelo> does ubuntu 5.10 require 25 gigs ?
[11:31] <crimsun> sf_: do you have all the necessary io, port, dma, etc. info?
[11:31] <njan> Nelo, no
[11:31] <crimsun> Nelo: no, 2.
[11:31] <nalioth> howdy y'all
[11:31] <Belutz> Myk, sorry my bad, try this sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb -t vfat -o rw
[11:31] <logikal> crimsun, there wasn't a driver for breezy badger on that list/
[11:31] <mirak> NiGhTHiNG: I can't list the rep
[11:31] <logikal> just hoary and warthog
[11:31] <njan> Nelo, I have it on an 8.5gb partition with a *PILE* of unnecessary packages installed, and I'm using exactly 3gb
[11:31] <Morgrog> so what can I do when I get a memtest dependency blocking my ubuntu-minimal install? :(
[11:32] <crimsun> logikal: what?
[11:32] <crimsun> -ECONTEXT
[11:32] <sf_> crimsun: no, i don't. how would i find that sort of information out?
[11:32] <NiGhTHiNG> mirak: Eh?
[11:32] <selinium> ANyone here want to talk me through removing a broken package! :)
[11:32] <mirak> NiGhTHiNG: root@mirak:/root/.synaptic# ls -dl log
[11:32] <mirak> lsald: log: Permission denied
[11:32] <logikal> crimsun, There was no ATI driver for breezy on that site you gave me.
[11:32] <crimsun> sf_: lspnp -v, paste onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl if there's significant output
[11:32] <mirak> lsald: log: Permission denied
[11:32] <crimsun> logikal: yes there is...
[11:32] <slyjab> nalioth can you give me some advice on w32codecs ....i istalled them on my system ... still can't play .wmv movies in totem or mplayer... any advice?
[11:32] <Myk> belutz: mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[11:32] <mirak>  ls: log: Permission denied
[11:32] <khakionion> jonny: these instructions seem like they'd work pretty well https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:32] <NiGhTHiNG> mirak: ls -dl ./
[11:33] <logikal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:33] <logikal> I only see hoary and warthog
[11:33] <nalioth> slyjab: thanks to uncle bill, some modern wmv media will not play no matter what you do
[11:33] <Belutz> Myk, try /dev/sda
[11:33] <mirak> root@mirak:/root/.synaptic#   ls -dl ./
[11:33] <mirak> drwx------  3 root root 192 Oct 23 23:28 ./
[11:33] <sf_> crimsun: odd, it tells me "lspnp: /proc/bus/pnp not available". do I need to add a kernel module or something?
[11:33] <NiGhTHiNG> mirak: id
[11:33] <Myk> belutz i did with same result
[11:33] <mirak> NiGhTHiNG: uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[11:33] <slyjab> nalioth what a nice guy (grrr)
[11:34] <NiGhTHiNG> mirak: df ./
[11:34] <slyjab> nalioth can i convert tthem to a differnt format on windows for them to play in ubuntu?
[11:34] <Belutz> Myk, ok, then try booting with the live cd, and check if it can mount your usb drive, if it can, then you can mount your /home and copy it into your usb
[11:34] <Morgrog> here's a noob question for you guys : Where is apt-get when you install? :(
[11:34] <mirak> NiGhTHiNG: I have 1.9G free
[11:35] <mirak> NiGhTHiNG: /dev/hda6             6.7G  4.8G  1.9G  72% /
[11:35] <Myk> belutz automount says attached scsi removable disc sda at scsi12, could it be the problem?
[11:35] <NiGhTHiNG> mirak: Device name is what I'm after
[11:35] <NiGhTHiNG> mirak: mount | grep hda6
[11:35] <nalioth> slyjab: of course you can
[11:35] <Belutz> Myk, i'm not sure
[11:35] <mirak> NiGhTHiNG: /dev/hda6 on / type reiserfs (rw)
[11:35] <crimsun> sf_: pull the info from bios then
[11:35] <ZzeCoOl> NiGhTHiNG: the strange is that now im getting a NTLDR is missing msg
[11:35] <vbgunz> Anyone here know why my dvd's just quit? Totem just exits and I thought it was a totem problem *but* after installing gxine and trying it, it too quits unexpectedly... no prompts or warnings or restarts... they just quit :( Anyone know what might be wrong?
[11:35] <jonny> do you have to tick all of your repositories after typing in "breezy"
[11:35] <ZzeCoOl> but if i plug off linux disc
[11:35] <slyjab> nalioth any suggestions... i would like to try to leave windows behind completely ...lol
[11:35] <samue1> does anyone know how i can change my home dir to another disk?
[11:35] <ZzeCoOl> it boot in windows without a prob
[11:36] <Belutz> Myk, can you do it? /dev/scsi12 ?
[11:36] <mirak> NiGhTHiNG: maybe the fs have an issue or something
[11:36] <BMXer> hi. how do i download xfce ?
[11:36] <sf_> crimsun: thanks for your help. i'll try that...
[11:36] <mirak> vbgunz: totem sucks a bit
[11:36] <NiGhTHiNG> mirak: lsattr log
[11:36] <Belutz> BMXer, install xubuntu-desktop
[11:36] <matiasp> (ok, answered myself, need package linux-headers not kernel-source)
[11:36] <mirak> NiGhTHiNG: lsattr: Permission denied while trying to stat log
[11:36] <andre__> is anybody outhere???
[11:37] <NiGhTHiNG> wtf?
[11:37] <andre__> hello?
[11:37] <bob2> andre__: obviously, just ask your question already
[11:37] <logikal> crimsun, can ya help me buddy ? :\
[11:37] <andre__> no no question, just to chat with someone
[11:37] <nalioth> slyjab: find your media in "open source friendly" formats
[11:37] <Myk> belutz you mean to try to mount /dev/scsi2? no it says the device does not exist
[11:37] <andre__> thats all
[11:37] <bob2> andre__: this is not a chat channel, sorry
[11:37] <Random_Sindrom> no chats please
[11:37] <jonny> do you have to tick/check all the repositories after typing in breezy
[11:37] <vbgunz> mirak: yeah, it doesn't control a DVD very well... Although I am trying to go stock, I am resorting to 3rd party apps. *but* in this case it doesn't seem to be Totem that sucks or just exists unexpectedly... After installing gxine, it too quits without warning... Anyone know?
[11:37] <NiGhTHiNG> ZzeCoOl: 'k, that's progress
[11:37] <crimsun> logikal: did you follow the instructions for the fglrx driver?
[11:37] <Belutz> Myk, then try booting with the live cd
[11:37] <marcin> hi ppl
[11:37] <Morgrog> so nobody had problems with memtest dependency problems with the ubuntu-minmal package eh? (The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:37] <Morgrog>   ubuntu-minimal: Depends: memtest86+ but it is not going to be installed
[11:37] <Morgrog> )
[11:37] <logikal> I instaled it for HOARY
[11:38] <slyjab> thx nalioth
[11:38] <logikal> is this ok?
[11:38] <andre__> good point, have a good one. love all
[11:38] <NiGhTHiNG> ZzeCoOl: I think there's a file called boot.ini or something like that
[11:38] <mirak> vbgunz: that's odd
[11:38] <logikal> Since im on breezy
[11:38] <marcin> could someone tell me why I don't have any text in flash content on web pages?
[11:38] <khakionion> jonny: only the ones you want, but i'd check 'em all
[11:38] <bob2> Morgrog: sounds like you messed up your sources.list
[11:38] <marcin> I can see images only and animations - no text at all
[11:38] <vbgunz> I'll try loggin out... Hopefully that'll help :)
[11:38] <Myk> belutz ok, thanks for your help, I will try it tomorrow. I have to download live cd first. Thank
[11:38] <Morgrog> bob2: it's an install from scratch from the iso :o
[11:38] <bob2> Morgrog: awesome
[11:38] <ubuntu> with the live cd can you view play music files on the hdd's
[11:38] <marcin> I got flashplugin-nonfree
[11:38] <Belutz> Myk, you're welcome, sorry i can't solve your problem
[11:38] <bob2> Morgrog: paste /etc/apt/sources.list and the toutput of "apt-cache policy memtest86+" to #flood
[11:39] <nalioth> jonny: using universe and multiverse allows you much more fun (many more programs available)
[11:39] <Myk> bye
[11:39] <jonny> i do not know what they are
[11:39] <wotnarg> When writing a paper, do you think open source is capitalized?
[11:39] <Morgrog> bob2: I would but I'm in the middle of the install (using the other puter atm) :/
[11:40] <bob2> wotnarg: depends what you mean by it
[11:40] <wotnarg> The open source software movement.
[11:40] <bob2> haha
[11:40] <jonny> when ticking one of them, the following dialog box comes up You are adding the "universe" component.
[11:40] <jonny>  Packages in this component are not supported. Are you sure?
[11:40] <mirak> NiGhTHiNG: any idea ? that's weird isn't it ?
[11:40] <Fulbrite> wot: my students just wrote a paper on this history of open source software and I decided not to capitalize it
[11:40] <NiGhTHiNG> mirak: Very weird
[11:40] <Fulbrite> for them not to capitalize it
[11:40] <bob2> jonny: so, make your decisio
[11:40] <NiGhTHiNG> mirak: lsattr ./
[11:41] <BMXer> Belutz, how do i get xubunut-desktop?
[11:41] <wotnarg> ok, I'll not capitalize it :p
[11:41] <jonny> what does that mean though
[11:41] <Belutz> BMXer, from synaptic
[11:41] <LinuxMonkey> anyone here install the new version of nvclock yet?
[11:41] <Hentai^NT> how much actuall space is reguired for a ubuntu install?
[11:41] <NiGhTHiNG> Can anyone help with an nvidia tv out problem?
[11:42] <bob2> Hentai^NT: 1.8GB for the default
[11:42] <nalioth> Hentai^NT: >2gb
[11:42] <jonny> what does this mean? "You are adding the "universe" component.
[11:42] <jonny>  Packages in this component are not supported. Are you sure?"
[11:42] <bob2> NiGhTHiNG: not unless you ask a question
[11:42] <LinuxMonkey> hey bob2 whats up
[11:42] <bob2> jonny: ...
[11:42] <bob2> jonny: that packages in the universe component are not supported
[11:42] <Hentai^NT> nalioth bob2 ok
[11:42] <nalioth> jonny: it means you get the same warranty as everyone else
[11:42] <bob2> jonny: there are no security fixes, etc
[11:42] <Hentai^NT> is there any way to get read support easily in ubuntu?
[11:42] <jonny> ok... so its ok to tick it
[11:42] <Hentai^NT> for NTFS
[11:42] <Hentai^NT> my bad
[11:43] <nalioth> Hentai^NT: read support is doable in ubuntu
[11:43] <LinuxMonkey> Question: i keep getting /usr/local/src/nvclock0.8b# ./autogen.sh
[11:43] <LinuxMonkey> ./autogen.sh: line 14: aclocal: command not found
[11:43] <LinuxMonkey>  .... when I try to install, any idea?
[11:43] <vbgunz> I followed the enabling DVD support, DMA and Regionset instructions on the WIKI for DVD playback to the T. KillBill 2 exits right after the FBI warning screen and Titanic freezes after clicking on any menu item... KillBill 2 kills both Totem and gxine and Titanic I have only tried in Totem... Both DVDs fail. Any advice will be greatly appreciated!
[11:43] <bob2> Hentai^NT: of course, add the right line to /etc/fstab
[11:43] <breaks> hey quick question, what sound engine should i be using with amarok? as the default one doesnt seem to work?
[11:43] <bob2> LinuxMonkey: /msg ubotu ntfs
[11:43] <Hentai^NT> bob2 no go
[11:43] <Hentai^NT> nalioth only way is to add a line like that?
[11:43] <NiGhTHiNG> mirak: You got synaptic running?
[11:43] <nalioth> Hentai^NT: /msg ubotu ntfs
[11:43] <bob2> Hentai^NT: "no go" is not an answer, it is trivially possibly
[11:43] <bob2> bah
[11:43] <mirak> NiGhTHiNG: it's closed now.
[11:43] <warreng> is there better software to manage wireless internet connections? like one that lets you pick which network to connect to and so on?
[11:44] <bob2> LinuxMonkey: that seems quite clear; install the package containing acloacl
[11:44] <NiGhTHiNG> mirak: And you still have a lockfile there?
[11:44] <yoink> excuse me, all...does anyone here play enemy territory?
[11:44] <bob2> LinuxMonkey: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:44] <Hentai^NT> bob2 while possible I'm not gonna be on the phone teaching someone how to do that
[11:44] <bob2> Hentai^NT: /msg ubotu ntfs
[11:44] <breaks> yoink, i did, why?
[11:44] <mirak> NiGhTHiNG: yes
[11:44] <bob2> Hentai^NT: if thats too complicated for them, perhaps ubuntu is not the OS for them
[11:44] <bob2> warreng: netapplet, network-manager
[11:44] <NiGhTHiNG> bob2: I've configured tv out on one machine - worked fine. Then the MB was fried and I moved the card to another machine. Stopped working. Here's the xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/403447
[11:44] <vbgunz> Can someone help me with my DVD problem?
[11:44] <corincole> nalioth, can I pm you?
[11:44] <corincole> :P
[11:44] <nalioth> corincole: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[11:44] <Hentai^NT> bob2 compilcated yes using the os no
[11:45] <corincole> ok
[11:45] <bob2> vbgunz: "don't use totem"
[11:45] <Fulbrite> Can I overwrite my mbr from the shell on the install disk?
[11:45] <NiGhTHiNG> mirak: wtf? Hmmm... I'd suggest backing those up to another dir and then removing them from this one.
[11:45] <jalvarezrom> hello all
[11:45] <bob2> Hentai^NT: ok!!11
[11:45] <warreng> bob2: will either of those sit in a panel?
[11:45] <vbgunz> bob2, tell me a DVD player and I'll test it
[11:45] <bob2> warreng: indeed
[11:45] <bob2> Fulbrite: of course, chroot into your system and run grub-install
[11:45] <mirak> NiGhTHiNG: I did  a rm -fr of .synaptic and only log stayed
[11:45] <tristanmike> why not use Totem?
[11:46] <NiGhTHiNG> mirak: Okay, that's freaky. Go for fsck.
[11:46] <bob2> NiGhTHiNG: I don't do unfixable binary stuff, sorry
[11:46] <LinuxMonkey> bob2, its allready installed
[11:46] <bob2> vbgunz: mplayer
[11:46] <warreng> bob2: should i use both of those? or should i pick one?
[11:46] <linuxsurfer> hello! ... is there a way to block an application in the firewall? without using a port or ip, but the application name
[11:46] <vbgunz> bob2:  ok
[11:46] <Fulbrite> thanks bob
[11:46] <NiGhTHiNG> bob2: Ack, thanks anyway
[11:46] <bob2> LinuxMonkey: except for how it's not, or "aclocal" would run a program
[11:46] <jonny> ok... that is downloading 1160 so in the mean time i would like to ask you a very simple question...How can I download games and such off the internet?
[11:46] <jalvarezrom> anyone know what's the name of libqt3-dev in Ubuntu? I'm reading the KernelHowto of Ubuntu but I not see this package with 'aptitude search libqt3-dev'
[11:47] <bob2> linuxsurfer: yes, read the iptables manpage
[11:47] <bob2> jalvarezrom: libqt3-mt-dev
[11:47] <bob2> jalvarezrom: hint: apt-cache search --names-only libqt3
[11:47] <vbgunz> bob2: mp[layer-386 correct?
[11:47] <bob2> jonny: I believe firefox allows you to download files from the interweb
[11:47] <bob2> vbgunz: yes
[11:47] <jalvarezrom> bob2, thanks
[11:48] <LinuxMonkey> bob2, i check under the Synaptic Package Manager and searched for the aclocal and it gave me libguile-dev and it says its installed
[11:48] <vbgunz> ok
[11:48] <bob2> LinuxMonkey: that's awesome, but not what I suggested
[11:48] <bob2> LinuxMonkey: use packages.ubuntu.com to find the package that has aclocal in it
[11:48] <LinuxMonkey> I did and it gave me the same thing
[11:49] <bob2> LinuxMonkey: that's false
[11:49] <Morgrog> bob2: I think I found my problem eh... silly me... dpkg: error processing var/cache/apt/archives/memtest86+_1.60-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[11:49] <Morgrog>  failed in buffer_write(fd) (15, ret=-1): backend dpkg-deb during `./boot/memtest86+.bin': No space left on device
[11:49] <jonny> I know that...but after you download the installer, what program do you open it with?
[11:49] <bob2> LinuxMonkey: automake1.4 is one such package
[11:49] <bob2> LinuxMonkey: what are you compiling?
[11:49] <bob2> jonny: too vague, it depends on what the "installer" is
[11:50] <nalioth> LinuxMonkey: install "build-essential"
[11:50] <XiCillin> exit
[11:50] <XiCillin> exit
[11:50] <NiGhTHiNG> Okay, enough for me. Laterz.
[11:51] <Fulbrite> bob: I do chroot /, correct? Then where will grub-install typically be located?
[11:51] <anatole> anyone familiar with set ixer?
[11:51] <vbgunz> bob2: mplayer is ugly as hell and so teeny weeny...
[11:51] <LinuxMonkey> trying to compile the nvclock
[11:51] <anatole> *setmixer
[11:51] <bob2> vbgunz: wtf?
[11:51] <bob2> vbgunz: how can something with no visible window be ugly or teeny weeny?
[11:51] <bob2> Fulbrite: no, not at all
[11:51] <wotnarg> LinuxMonkey: Newer version than the on in the repos I assume?
[11:51] <vbgunz> bob2: I am looking on how to play a dvd with it now
[11:51] <LinuxMonkey> yes
[11:51] <bob2> Fulbrite: you chroot /dev/whatever, where /dev/whatever is your device
[11:51] <LinuxMonkey> repo had 7 and this is 8
[11:51] <wotnarg> ah
[11:51] <guilherme> i'm having problems in the command 'sudo apt-get install php4-mysql'. The command is in www.ubuntuguide.org does anyone had problems who can help?
[11:52] <linuxsurfer> bob2, thx
[11:52] <jonny> ok... I would like to download macromedia flash
[11:52] <bob2> LinuxMonkey: so read the instructions and fine out what version of automake it wants
[11:52] <vbgunz> bob2: I have a little ass remote looking thing...
[11:52] <jonny> how can I?
[11:52] <wotnarg> guilherme: What problems you having?
[11:52] <bob2> guilherme: no, a question like that is unanswerable without you actually showing us the error in #flood
[11:52] <bob2> vbgunz: wtf
[11:52] <bob2> vbgunz: mplayer -dvd-device /dev/hdc dvd://1
[11:52] <vbgunz> bob2 "mplayer-386"
[11:52] <vbgunz> I'll try that
[11:52] <bob2> jonny: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:52] <guilherme> the package does'nt exist..  ubuntu hoary 5.04
[11:53] <jonny> THX
[11:53] <LinuxMonkey> wotnarg,  i got to install it so i can get decent frames in cs with cedega
[11:53] <bob2> guilherme: except that it does
[11:53] <bob2> guilherme: /msg ubotu repositories
[11:53] <vbgunz> bob2, one thing for sure, is that command straight bypassed the FBI warning screen
[11:53] <guilherme> sorry bob2, i don't understand you
[11:53] <wotnarg> LinuxMonkey: nods. I'd install it, except that I dont have a good enough cooling system to overclock atm.  I don't understand why Totem and gxine are both dying on me :(
[11:54] <Fulbrite> bob: chroot /dev/hda1 - no directory found and mount /dev/hda1 gets me not found in /etc/fstab
[11:54] <wotnarg> LinuxMonkey: ah. Pity, was going to ask how you got cs:s to work in cedega :p
[11:55] <bob2> Fulbrite: /dev/hda1 is actually your root partition?
[11:55] <LinuxMonkey> hehe well i bet ya i could with ease
[11:55] <thehil>  Help me enable spell check in GAIM.
[11:55] <nalioth> jonny: it depends on your current installation
[11:55] <LinuxMonkey> but its a fps problem thats been plaguing me
[11:55] <escobar5> hello
[11:55] <khakionion> wotnarg: i've gotten source engine working in hoary, haven't tried yet in breezy
[11:55] <samue1> i got as far as running steam and it packed in on me
[11:55] <wotnarg> khakionion: So steam doesnt screw up on cedega?
[11:56] <graeme_> Hello
[11:56] <Fulbrite> bob: from what i remember from the installation it is, I installed on a fresh hd. Would it typically be something else?
[11:56] <escobar5> i have a problem, i'm going to install something but it says "error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
[11:56] <escobar5> "
[11:56] <graeme_> I have a problem
[11:56] <graeme_> W: GPG error: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:56] <khakionion> nope...had to follow/merge several different HOWTOs, but eventually i got it working without problems
[11:56] <guilherme> #flood
[11:56] <jonny> but...with breezy no UBUNTU installer should come up, correct?
[11:56] <woland_> can anyone point me towards ubuntu howtos?
[11:57] <bob2> Fulbrite: it's not typiacally anything, it;s wherever you put it
[11:57] <graeme_> in Synaptic
[11:57] <bob2> Fulbrite: you need to find it, perhaps using fdisk -l /dev/hda
[11:57] <Fulbrite> ok
[11:57] <bob2> jonny: your question makes no sense
[11:57] <bob2> woland_: wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:57] <bob2> !+repositories
[11:57] <ubotu> rumour has it, sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[11:57] <bob2> guilherme: read that
[11:57] <vbgunz> Does anyone know what "installing an X11 driver that supports the Xv protocol extension" mean?
[11:58] <escobar5> can anyone help me?
[11:58] <jonny> ok...so when synaptic is downloading tons of package files, it's upgrading to 5.10?
[11:58] <lsald> jonny, did you do the dist-upgrade?
[11:59] <ompaul> escobar5, run that  >>sudo apt-get install build-essential<<
[11:59] <jonny> I do not know what that is
[11:59] <bob2> vbgunz: it means, "your video card is poorly supported by X, probably because it's badly documented and designed"
[11:59] <khakionion> jonny: yes, if you changed the repositories to "breezy," then yes
[11:59] <vbgunz> bob2 oh, ok
[12:00] <vbgunz> bob2: I know how to fix that
[12:00] <jonny> yes.. I did


[03:39] <mrevell> jenda: ping
[10:29] <newz2000> hey guys, anyone around
[10:30] <beuno> newz2000: yeap, hey
[10:31] <newz2000> cool. So James Troup asked me to do an update of the drupal version on the Fridge, since its quite out dated.
[10:31] <newz2000> I've done a few test runs locally, and I've gotten to the point where it "works" (technically speaking).
[10:31] <beuno> great great, very needed
[10:31] <newz2000> Unfortunately, some of the modules aren't supported on the 4.7 version, which is not even the most upto date version.
[10:32] <newz2000> Even the Fridge theme is not compatible with the 4.7 version of fridge. :-(
[10:33] <newz2000> I'm thinking about doing a test install in a semi-public area so that people on the fridge team can look for errors or problems.
[10:33] <newz2000> just curious if anyone has any strong feelings about this
[10:33] <beuno> I don't, Burgundavia?
[10:33] <newz2000> maybe I should send to the mailing list
[10:34] <Burgundavia> hmm?
[10:34] <Burgundavia> newz2000: a test install sounds like a great idea
[10:34] <Burgundavia> sadly my knowledge of brain surgery and drupal are at about the same level
[10:35] <newz2000> Well, I'm just going to do it and put it up somewhere... I guess I'm kind of thinking out loud. :-]
[10:36] <newz2000> I wish I was alloted the time to do our idea about switching platforms on the fridge.
[10:36] <Burgundavia> what were you thinking?
[10:37] <newz2000> I don't know. :-) I'm just going to do a semi-public install and send a message out to the fridge editors.
[10:37] <newz2000> They can beat it up and help me find probs.
[10:37] <newz2000> I mean you can beat it up.