[00:00] <kate_r> basically 12.04 security
[00:00] <kate_r> Dr_willis: my sources.list doesn't seem to have it
[00:01] <Dr_willis> im not on ubuntu to check right now.
[00:03] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: Ok, this is weird. It upgraded the packages and now it's upgrading the system when I click again...
[00:11] <altin> hey guys, my 9cell battery lasts only 5h with ubuntu and optimus tech nvidia graphics, I have bumblebee installed though! How normal is this? Should it last higher?
[00:14] <jcrza> Woah, 13.04 huh?
[00:15] <nickgzzjr> Hi can someone help me figure out why my ubuntu is not picking up any video camera in /dev/video0 ?
[00:15] <jcrza> Just got a message on my ubuntu box
[00:15] <jcrza> If I run a postgre server and some python scripts should I have any trouble with upgrading?
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, Sorry I had to make a store run, how long did the first upgrade take, and how many packages are being shown loaded now?
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> downloaded*
[00:16] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: it was 300 MB
[00:16] <the_drow> Now it's installing ~1000 packages
[00:17] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: and the title is Distribution Upgrade unlike before
[00:17] <nickgzzjr> Can someone help me figure out why my ubuntu is not picking up any video cameras in /dev/video0? Anyone?
[00:17] <silverex> Yo, so I just upgraded to 12.10 from 12.04. Problem is that now when I start up my computer, the resolution is off and there's no dash or menu bar. After a couple of minutes a box comes up saying that compiz has crashed. How could I fix this?
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, were you fully updated the first time you hit the upgrade, could it have been you hit the button at the bottom rather then the top?
[00:18] <the_drow> nickgzzjr: got the drivers?
[00:18] <basiclas_> are there any lists of ubuntu friendly laptops? :) i need a new laptop
[00:18] <nickgzzjr> the_drow im not sure how can I check?
[00:18] <jcrza> I really want to upgrade to 13.04. Is it ... safe yet?
[00:19] <the_drow> wilee-nilee: maybe I haven't noticed... Idk. On the other hand the wireless card driver stopped working and I had to reinstall it
[00:19] <the_drow> nickgzzjr: did it work before?
[00:19] <nickgzzjr> the_drow: No, not with this image, its a custom ubuntu build, for a arm board.
[00:19] <Blue11> having an issue with xubuntu 12.10  not all the indicator icons show up in the taskbar and there is no way to add them.  speaker icon and battery indcator.
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> basiclas_, Here is a list, many that will run are not listed is all, knowing the hardware of what you want to purchase might be better way. http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[00:20] <the_drow> nickgzzjr: then the drivers might not exist
[00:20] <bmomjian> basiclas_: Lenovo is usually good with Ubuntu
[00:20] <nickgzzjr> the_drow: well I have another image that some guy online made and it works there. How can I add the drivers
[00:20] <nickgzzjr> ?
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> the_drow, Sounds like there was a glitch somewhere a upgrade that runs and finishes and is rebooted to be the same is like very strange.
[00:21] <the_drow> nickgzzjr: google them up first. I don't know what kind of camera you are using
[00:21] <Blue11> dang logged me out -- anyway xubuntu does not show speaker or battery icon in the task bar.  I cant right click and add them.  suggestions?
[00:22] <the_drow> nickgzzjr: why won't you use the other image then?
[00:22] <altin> my 9cell battery lasts only 5h with ubuntu and optimus tech nvidia graphics, I have bumblebee installed though! How normal is this? Should it last higher?
[00:22] <rodolfo> hi
[00:22] <altin> longer**
[00:23] <rodolfo> I'am from Brasil
[00:24] <silverex> Yo, so I just upgraded to 12.10 from 12.04. Problem is that now when I start up my computer, the resolution is off and there's no dash or menu bar. After a couple of minutes a box comes up saying that compiz has crashed. How could I fix this?
[00:25] <savio> altin i think its normal
[00:25] <zonk1024> silverex: first step is trying to find output that says why it crashed.
[00:25] <Tatuus> Musicbrainz doesn't look up for CD titles on 13.04.....
[00:26] <Tatuus> or do i have to add something ?
[00:26] <jcrza> If I upgrade to 13.04 am I in danger of having packages not be available for it?
[00:26] <vemacs> Oh dear
[00:26] <silverex> zonk1024: How would I do that?
[00:27] <vemacs> My fermi-based laptop and fermi-based graphics card
[00:27] <vemacs> Can't boot the liveUSB.
[00:27] <vemacs> have to disable nouveau thru boot flags still ;_;
[00:28] <zonk1024> silverex: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15612/where-does-compiz-log-error-messages  ?
[00:29] <Arpad2> !opengl
[00:30] <Arpad2> how to enable opengl?
[00:30] <Guest> .
[00:30] <Guest> .
[00:30] <Guest> .
[00:30] <FloodBot1> Guest: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:34] <Tatuus> Rhythmbox doesn't fetch cd's  track info from Musicbrainz after 13.04 upgrade... How can i firx this?
[00:40] <Tatuus> Rhythmbox doesn't fetch cd's  track info from Musicbrainz after 13.04 upgrade... How can i fix this?
[00:43] <turova> I have an Dell XPS 17" (L702x).  Just installed 13.04.  Resolution comes up as 1280x1024, instead of the desired 1920x1080.  I can't seem to figure out the right set of xrandr commands to make it work… The bigger problem may be that I can't figure out where I should actually put the resolution modification commands, since there's no more xorg.conf.  Anyone know of a guide that'll work for 13.04?
[00:51] <wolftune> Hi, I have an update showing for linux-firmware but it won't install, it gives errors
[00:51] <wolftune> on Precise
[00:52] <Brotox> hi guys, i've deployed my rails app in heroku, but when i update my code locally and do git push master, nothing get modified ?!
[00:53] <pztrick> git push origin master?
[00:53] <Jordan_U> Brotox: Did you actually git add and git commit?
[00:54] <Brotox> Jordan_U, do i've to do that each time ? i'm still a git newbie :$
[00:55] <jamie_> hey guys just wanted to ask a simple question - what DE/ GUI is closest to windows? I'm trying out Xubuntu atm..
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, Have you run a update to make sure it is not a partial upgrade?
[00:55] <Brotox> jamie_, try cinnamon
[00:56] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: yes
[00:56] <jamie_> ah, looks nice, thanks!
[00:56] <wolftune> here's the errors: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/paste/gs88r
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, Can you post the errors in a pastebin?
[01:03] <Jordan_U> Brotox: Yes.
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, On line I'm seeing some bugs and notations on microcode_amd, I don't really have a definitive answer for you, lothers might though.
[01:06] <hellpe> hello
[01:06] <Brotox> Jordan_U, i cloned a github repo, added my stuff and modified, deployed to heroku.
[01:06] <Brotox> the output of those commands are : Please make sure you have the correct access rights
[01:07] <Brotox> fatal: Could not read from remote repository.
[01:07] <hellpe> I think my EeePC 1015e is overheating, it is at 75°C and rising
[01:07] <hellpe> according to xfce4-sensors
[01:07] <Guest53752> hi, #On Ubuntu 12.10 xfce, I am trying to find the code to remove unusable choices from  my log-in menu. Like 1.) cairo-dock which is not a desktop choice; 2.) Gnome Openbox and/or; 3.) Openbox which I do not want anyone to play with, and especially how to hide until I can purge; 4.) Lubuntu ; 5.) Lubuntu Netbook  without wounding my xfce that has a month of personalizing, cairo-docking and my tender care put into it. I am
[01:07] <Guest53752>  hoping not to have to run a new ¨mini.iso¨ and start over. Any ideas out there?
[01:07] <hellpe> I'm worried it could cause hardware damages
[01:08] <somsip> Brotox: when you clone a github repo, the origin will be the github repo and you probably cannot push to that. So you may need to fork the repo, then work on your forked copy. But then, I have no idea about Heroku
[01:08] <MestreLion> where are nautilus thumbnailers defined? I noticed it isn't generating thumbnails for XPM files
[01:08] <Brotox> somsip, hmmm
[01:08] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: thanks for the help. Does this mean just wait and someone is probably addressing this?
[01:08] <hellpe> is there something I can do to prevent this ?
[01:09] <hellpe> I'm using Xubuntu Raring
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, You might try sudo apt-get install -f the sudo apt-get clean then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> then*
[01:11] <somsip> Brotox: or add a new remote repo which is the Heroku deployment point thing, and push to that
[01:12] <Brotox> somsip, heroku has nothing to do with GitHub itself !
[01:12] <Brotox> you push your code up to heroku, it does the rest.
[01:12] <somsip> Brotox: oh,  I thought the idea was you pushed directly to Heroku. But like I say, I know nothing about Heroku.
[01:13] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: thanks, but still got the same error
[01:14] <Brotox> somsip, nah, i've cloned that locally, i deployed to heroku, then did some changes locally, and now i need to update the deployed app at heroku
[01:15] <fjodor> hi which software does ubuntu use to automate adding external monitors?
[01:15] <somsip> Brotox: this is way off topic. But I believe you would need to add the Heroku deployment point as a new remote repo and push to that. But you are better off looking into this elsewhere
[01:15] <Dr_willis> Guest53752,  the *dm login screens have sessions they show defined by the vvarious  *.desktop files.  for example there should be a 'gnome.desktop' and a 'open.desktop' file you can move to some other location. restart lightdm. and they wont be shown
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, Did you get any errors besides the same at the end. For example held packages....etc?
[01:16] <Dr_willis> Guest53752,  try 'locate gnome.desktop' to find the location. somewhere in /etc/ i recall
[01:16] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: yes, there was a held package error at the very beginning after the -f command
[01:17] <betrayd> fjodor theres different ways unfortunately, depending onthe video card in question
[01:17] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: well, looking back it just said that 1 was not upgraded
[01:17] <fjodor> betrayd: intel
[01:18] <fjodor> betrayd: i am using lubuntu and the apps just suck, i just want to use the automated thing that ubuntu uses
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, Is te terminal open with all that, if so pastebin all of it.
[01:18] <Dr_willis> fjodor,  what you mean automated thing?
[01:19] <fjodor> Dr_willis: when i pull the plug it deactivates the external monitor automatically and activates it when i plug it in
[01:20] <Dr_willis> fjodor,  i cant say ive noticed that depending on the desktop. but it could be ive only dont it in Unity and Gnome-shell.  I thought Udev handled it.
[01:20] <fjodor> with lubuntu the external monitor is still active and there might be windows or somehting...
[01:21] <Dr_willis> got a tv i sometimes plugin. Noticed it gets auto configured in unity. and gnome-shell. Not sure if ive ever tried it in lubuntu, or kubuntu.
[01:21] <Dr_willis> i think its controllable via the xrandr tools also. so if you do that a lot. you could set up some script/icon to disable the 2nd monitor
[01:22] <fjodor> Dr_willis: with lubuntu you've got to run a program like arandr, grandr or lxrandr(lxde)
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, I suspect the package held for upgrade is just missing dependencies that may show up within a day or so.
[01:22] <Nothing_Much> I have to launch skype from a terminal because of NVIDIA drivers, can somebody help?
[01:22] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: ok, do you still want the paste? I was about to do that
[01:22] <Dr_willis> Nothing_Much,  help with what? why do you need to launch it from a terminal due to video drivers?
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, Wold not hurt I'm curious,\.
[01:23] <Nothing_Much> I have to run this: LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 skype
[01:23] <Nothing_Much> Every time just to launch it
[01:23] <carrera> Greetings!  :)
[01:23] <betrayd> fjodor: i think that's because of the desktop manager, they have their own handling of extra monitors
[01:23] <Nothing_Much> When I switched to the Nouveau driver, it works
[01:23] <Nothing_Much> But then I couldn't play TF2
[01:23] <LargePrime> Hello.  12.0 server on a dedicated host.  what is the best way to add virtual hosts
[01:23] <Nothing_Much> Even though all the dependencies were already installed for TF2 and I HAVE been able to play on Nouveau before
[01:24] <sync350> Nothing_Much, www.webupd8.org/2013/04/fix-skype-not-working-in-ubuntu-1304.html.  Let me know if this helps.
[01:24] <Dr_willis> Nothing_Much,  make a script that does that.. or put that line in your .bashrc or .profile
[01:24] <fjodor> betrayd: no if i deactivate the extra monitor with lxpanel, openbox puts all windows on first monitor like ubuntu does automatically
[01:24] <Nothing_Much> I don't want a workaround
[01:24] <Nothing_Much> I want a fix
[01:25] <carrera> Nuveau driver crashes on my nVidia M360 during install. With the alternate edition gone, how can I install with generic drivers until I can get the proprietary drivers
[01:25] <Dr_willis> wait for ms to FIX it then?
[01:25] <Brotox> Jordan_U, i fixed it and updated my deployed heroku app
[01:25] <betrayd> and you are...
[01:25] <Brotox> Jordan_U,  git add & git commit & git push production master
[01:25] <Nothing_Much> MS? I thought it was a driver issue
[01:25] <Brotox> ;)
[01:25] <Dr_willis> you want a fix for what seems to be a bug in skype. which is owned by ms..
[01:26] <carrera> Any suggestions?
[01:26] <tilde> I'm trying to double boot windows 8 and ubuntu 13.04, and I have some questions about manual partitioning. First, where do I put the bootloader? in the EFI partition, or in my main Ubuntu partition?
[01:26] <Dr_willis> and the work around is rather trivial.
[01:26] <carrera> Nuveau driver crashes on my nVidia M360 during install. With the alternate edition gone, how can I install with generic drivers until I can get the proprietary drivers?
[01:27] <bd___> Hello. Do you recommend Ubuntu 12.04 LTS or 13.4? Thanks
[01:27] <Nothing_Much> Depends
[01:27] <Nothing_Much> bd___ what do you want?
[01:27] <Nothing_Much> Like, do you plan to use it as a desktop or server or have any other things you want from the OS?
[01:27] <bd___> Nothing_Much: Desktop usage :)
[01:27] <oldbreed> Hey, all, I have an external hard drive here that I need to scan for viruses -- what software should I use"?
[01:28] <bd___> Normal, all-around desktop usage
[01:28] <Nothing_Much> Would you like semi-bleeding edge (more current) software or would you rather have stable software?
[01:28] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  clamav is in the repos for scanning for windows viruses. theres other av apps out for linux also
[01:28] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  you are meaning  to scan a external usb  with windows files for window viruses?
[01:29] <oldbreed> Yessir
[01:29] <carrera> Dr_willis, Nuveau driver crashes on my nVidia M360 during install. With the alternate edition gone, how can I install with generic drivers so I can apt-get the proprietary drivers?
[01:29] <Nothing_Much> bd___?
[01:29] <sync350> bd___, you could always burn a copy of each, and experiment a bit. ;)
[01:29] <Dr_willis> carrera,  tried the nomodeset option yet?
[01:29] <bd___> Nothing_Much: dont know. Are the current releases stable?
[01:29] <carrera> Dr_willis, No sir, don't even know what it is
[01:30] <phantomcircuit> how well does ubuntu work on a recent mac book pro?
[01:30] <bd___> sync350: takes time ehehe
[01:30] <Dr_willis> !nomodeset
[01:30] <MestreLion> where are nautilus thumbnailers defined? I noticed it isn't generating thumbnails for XPM files.. I cn see some thumbnailers defined in /usr/share/thumbnailers for PDF, EXE, videos... but not for images. Where is that set?
[01:30] <phantomcircuit> like if i walked into an apple store today and tried to install ubuntu how much would it suck?
[01:30] <oldbreed> Dr_willis:  clamav is cl based, correct?  how do i run it and specify what it's scanning?
[01:30] <Nothing_Much> bd___ Technically everything's stable, the most current 13.04 just has newer software. 12.04 has older software, but gets support for 5 years (4 years left)
[01:30] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  it has a cli and a gui.. and you should read its docs..    it has options you tell it.
[01:31] <bd___> Nothing_Much: what is the one you use?
[01:31] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  its best to use several differnt av apps to scan files. just in case you get false positives, or missed hits
[01:31] <Nothing_Much> I use 13.04, it's amazing
[01:31] <jram0421> i installed ubuntu 13.04 64 bit alongside windows 8 and it has no option to boot into ubuntu
[01:31] <oldbreed> What others can you suggest, Dr_willis?
[01:32] <bd___> Nothing_Much: with the unity desktop? Can you describe why do you think it is amazing? Have you used the lts before?
[01:32] <Nothing_Much> But after 6 or 9 months (6 months is when the next release comes out, 9 months is when the release is eol'd), you have to upgrade to the next release if you're willing to do that.
[01:32] <bd___> Nothing_Much: is it hard to do upgrade?
[01:33] <jram0421> « !ops »
[01:33] <Nothing_Much> bd___, Unity is much faster and has improved drastically since LTS. I used 12.04 and it's pretty good, but I went to use 13.04 when it was in beta and was blown away.
[01:33] <OerHeks> oldbreed, follow this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ClamAV
[01:33] <Nothing_Much> To upgrade Ubuntu, you just type in the terminal "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[01:33] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  no idea. i dont really use them any more. I recall there being clamav and avg had one.. and  i recall 2 others
[01:34] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  some of the av companies had their own linux live cds for scanning systems i recall  Avast perhaps had one
[01:35] <bd___> Nothing_Much: Do you use a File Manager other than the new Nautilus in 13.04?
[01:35] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  clamav worked.. but i dont think it had the best  % rate of finding viruses.
[01:35] <Nothing_Much> I use everything stock that comes in 13.04, Nautilus is a bit different but I got used to it
[01:36] <turova> I have an Dell XPS 17" (L702x).  Just installed 13.04.  Resolution comes up as 12
[01:36] <turova> 80x1024, instead of the desired 1920x1080.  I can't seem to figure out the right set of xrandr commands to make it work… The bigger problem may be that I can't figure out where I should actually put the resolution modification commands, since there's no more xorg.conf.  Anyone know of a guide that'll work for 13.04?
[01:36] <bd___> Nothing_Much: I think I will choose 13.04 because of the performance improvements :) . Any bugs so far?
[01:37] <codezombie> can anyone explain the differance in usage? https://gist.github.com/gitt/4af5cdddfff0f811f173
[01:38] <Nothing_Much> No bugs as far as I've seen!
[01:38] <oldbreed> Dr_willis, do I need to add a PPA to get avast then?
[01:38] <tt> there are bugs
[01:38] <tt> I have no audio
[01:38] <tt> the kernel that shipped with 13.04 breaks HDMI audio for some (all?) users
[01:38] <Nothing_Much> HDMI?
[01:38] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  No idea. ive not used avast in a year+
[01:38] <Nothing_Much> Ah
[01:38] <Dr_willis> !av
[01:38] <bd___> Nothing_Much: what is with HDMI?
[01:38] <Nothing_Much> Yeah, that bug doesn't affect me because I'm using a 2007-2008 build
[01:39] <Nothing_Much> bd___ what tt said, if you have HDMI audio then you're gonna have to use headphones and wait for a fix on the kernel
[01:40] <tt> uh
[01:40] <tt> headphones don't help if you don't have analog audio out
[01:40] <bd___> Nothing_Much: so HDMI audio doesn't work for every hardware config?
[01:42] <nur> Hi all
[01:42] <Dr_willis> ive had issues with hdmi audio depending on the chipset..  noticed it was not working yesterday for me.. when it had been working  fine for months..
[01:42] <nur> anyone develop Drupal on ubuntu 13.04 / localhost?
[01:43] <Dr_willis> HDMI audio was working all during beta testing.. i just noticved last night it wasent working.  (in 13.04) i havent tried it today
[01:43] <Toph2> is 13.04 out?
[01:43] <bd___> Dr_willis: you would recommend 12.04 or 13.04?
[01:43] <Dr_willis> bd___,  i always use the latest.
[01:43] <bd___> Toph2: you are late :)
[01:44] <Dr_willis> if you are doing a clean install. id say go with 13.04
[01:44] <Toph2> hehe,, my next question was like yours,, is it worth updating?
[01:44] <Dr_willis> if you got 12.04 working fine.. then you  might not need all the little fixs
[01:44] <tilde> Hello, does anyone know whether the bootloader goes in the EFI partition? (I am manually setting up partitions).
[01:44] <bd___> Dr_willis: Is it true that upgrades are not reliable, that you can get no desktop at all after upgrades?
[01:44] <Dr_willis> bd___,  i upgraded fine. many others have as well
[01:44] <Dr_willis> but i rarely upgrade. I tend to do clean installs.
[01:45] <bd___> Dr_willis: Do you use ppas?
[01:45] <Dr_willis> bd___,  yes i use several ppas for stuffs
[01:45] <savagecroc> hey i'm doing rsync
[01:45] <OerHeks> make sure you have the iso on usb/cd before upgrading
[01:45] <bd___> Toph2: I would say most people here agree that it is a very good release, so yes if you are on 12.10 upgrade :)
[01:45] <turova> no one here had to deal with any resolution issues because of optimus?
[01:45] <savagecroc> and i keep getting rsync: failed to set times on "/source/bla/bla
[01:45] <Dr_willis> 12.10 to 13.04 is  more of a 'polishing/cleanup' type improvement
[01:45] <bd___> Dr_willis: which ones do you think are "mandatory" for every ubuntu user? xD
[01:46] <Toph2> bd___,,, i didn't do 12.10,, i stayed with 12.04
[01:46] <savagecroc> i don't want rsync to have write permissions to the source directory
[01:46] <chickenmonger> I've upgraded two laptops from 12.10 to 13.04 already with no problems.
[01:46] <savagecroc> is there anyway around this?
[01:46] <Dr_willis> bd___,  never really noticed.  I just add some if i see an app i want to try
[01:46] <OerHeks> turova yes, i read lots of issues
[01:46] <joaquin> is this the right place to ask question about my journey into the Ubuntu Dev?
[01:46] <bd___> Dr_willis: like libreoffice ppa?
[01:46] <Dr_willis> bd___,  i tend to uninstall libreoffice ;P i rarely do word pcoressing
[01:46] <Morph4me> tilde: when partitioning manually ....the bootloader must go at the beginning  for EFI ....mine is 100mb  ....mount point i typed ...boot/efi ...
[01:47] <Dr_willis> i tend to do very little real 'work' on my computers ;P
[01:47] <bd___> Toph2: Thats tough. If you want you can upgrade to 12.10 then 13.04
[01:47] <bd___> Or fresh install of 13.04
[01:47] <bd___> But if you have a lot of configuration done already maybe stay with the lts would be better. Depends on what you want Toph2
[01:48] <Toph2> bd___,,, i have had bad luck with upgrades,, i will do a fresh install
[01:48] <tilde> Morphe4me: if I am dualbooting with windows 8, is it still boot/efi, or something else? I don't want to overwrite the windows boot manager,
[01:48] <turova> OerHeks: My 13.04 install won't run at 1920x1080 and I can't figure out how to make that happen on my XPS17 (l702x).  I've tried to run some commands with xrandr but haven't figured out how to actually make it change the resolution.  Farthest I've gotten is seeing something like "cannot set resolution to size bigger than virtual display".  I think I just need to set up the xrandr stuff early in the boot process, but I can't figure out where
[01:48] <turova> since there's no more xorg.conf
[01:49] <tilde> oops, I meant Morph4me
[01:49] <bd___> Toph2: Remember that you will have to upgrade in 9 months if you install 13.04
[01:49] <Morph4me> tilde: i don't have it with Win8 BUT this is how i manually set it with ubuntu 13 .04 http://i.imgur.com/J6oOa7P.png
[01:51] <codezombie> bah, this is driving me nuts. df says I'm using 8GB of storage, but I cannot find it anywhere.
[01:51] <tilde> Morph4me: okay, thanks. I'm just a little worried about overwriting the windows boot manager. If I do accidently overwrite it, is there a way to fix it? (using boot repair or something?)
[01:52] <bean> codezombie, thats pretty easy to figure out. du -sh /*
[01:52] <bean> and then drill down
[01:52] <gandalfcome> Hey, I've got too teach some undergrads the command line and I'm looking for a nice online interactive command line tutorial. Any recommendations?
[01:52] <Dr_willis> codezombie,  seen log files get huge due to bugs. ;)
[01:52] <codezombie> bean: see my above gist... I did, and du -sh /* shows 1.1gb
[01:52] <bean> codezombie, have you tyied rebooting then?
[01:52] <codezombie> Dr_willis: not running any services
[01:52] <codezombie> bean: ys
[01:53] <codezombie> yes
[01:53] <Morph4me> tidle: you are doing it in the right order ,but i haven't went there yet  :)
[01:53] <Dr_willis> codezombie,  you have checked  /var/log and your users home for Xorg log files?
[01:53] <codezombie> Dr_willis; https://gist.github.com/gitt/4af5cdddfff0f811f173
[01:53] <tilde> Morph4me: wait what? doing what in the right order?
[01:54] <Dr_willis> so df and du are showing differnt stuff. Hmm not sure about hat
[01:54] <Morph4me> tilde : windows first because it would wipe ubuntu(s) bootloader
[01:55] <codezombie> Dr_willis: yea, this is driving me nuts.
[01:56] <tilde> Morph4me: ah, I see. Well thanks for your help!
[01:56] <Morph4me> good luck tilde
[02:00] <Dr_willis> codezombie,  could it it be somthing as odd as one app counting soft (or hard) links differntly?
[02:00] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: try looking in lsof output
[02:01] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: what would I be looking for htere?
[02:01] <carajo> hello!
[02:01] <johnjohn1011> i cloned my 160 GB drive to a new 2tb drive.  I was looking to bump up my 154 gb partition to use most of the drive. I saw that the swap is inside an extended partition.  does this need to be the case?
[02:01] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: you could possibly have a file which has a fd open and hasn't been deleted in which case you would be looking for something with the string (deleted)
[02:01] <codezombie> Dr_willis: df uses the fs usage. I would think it should be accurate. This is a clean install, no idea why this is wrong.
[02:01] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: it would also mean the space is counted from whatever fd is still open -
[02:02] <codezombie> SolarisBoy; nothing like that in the list :/
[02:03] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: ok - well good to log these things - codezombie how big is this disk?
[02:03] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: and is the issue that your trying to find space that df is reporting as used somewhere?
[02:04] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: yes, df says I'm using 8GB, du shows 1.2GB. This is a clean ubuntu server 12.04 install, so I shouldn't be using anything more than the minimal space required.
[02:04] <carajo> hello guys if I have a machine with 2 cores and 2 threads (2.5ghz) what is the meaning when I run gnome-system-monitor and one thread (i supposed) reach the 100%?
[02:04] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: https://gist.github.com/gitt/4af5cdddfff0f811f173
[02:04] <xub69> I mounted /proc into a chroot and when I ran ncdu it told me I had a 128TB drive, why doesn't everyone do this space saving trick?
[02:05] <carajo> what is the clock frecuency that my machine is working to?
[02:06] <Jordan_U> codezombie: Try running an fsck.
[02:06] <Jordan_U> !fsck | codezombie
[02:06] <codezombie> Jordan_U: yeah, I've done that. Thanks.
[02:07] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: ok - can you try this -
[02:07] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: du -s -h / and compare that output to df -h
[02:07] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: 1.2GB
[02:08] <carajo> hello guys if I have a machine with 2 cores and 2
[02:08] <carajo>  338 |               threads (2.5ghz) what is the meaning when I run
[02:08] <carajo>  339 |               gnome-system-monitor and one thread (i supposed)
[02:08] <carajo>  340 |               reach the 100%?
[02:08] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: can you post that?
[02:08] <carajo> please
[02:09] <codezombie> root@mini:~# du -s -h /
[02:09] <codezombie> 1.2G	/
[02:09] <Dr_willis> one core is at 100% ussage i belive carajo
[02:09] <Dr_willis> carajo,  htop may give better info
[02:10] <carajo> Dr_willis it remains showing 4 "threads"
[02:11] <Dr_willis> 2 cores each has hyperthreading  perhaps
[02:12] <carajo> but it does what you have supposed, what it means that the 4 theads have reached 100%?
[02:13] <carajo> Dr_willis yeah it is an intel core
[02:13] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: what's interesting, is that it doesn't seem to ever go below 8GB
[02:13] <codezombie> no matter what I remove
[02:14] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: it could be open files as stated
[02:14] <SolarisBoy> not neccessarily just deleted ones - does it persist reboots?
[02:14] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: open from what? nothing has been installed, except the OS. I've also rebooted, negating anything that would be open.
[02:14] <Jordan_U> codezombie: Does usage increase if you add files?
[02:15] <codezombie> Jordan_U: yes
[02:15] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: nothing needs to be installed - all running procs have open FD's in some form or manner
[02:15] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: even just the ones that are installed in the base deployment - more so than new apps/things - whats your uptime like?
[02:15] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: right, but out of dozens of server installs this is the first I've ever seen of this.
[02:15] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: ^
[02:16] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: clean install on a new box today
[02:16] <carajo> really i dont understand
[02:16] <codezombie> so uptime is zero pretty much
[02:16] <Dr_willis> carajo,  ive seen some tools say 100% when one thread (one part of one core) is running at 100%>. if all 4 were running full speed.. ive seen it say %400   it depends on  the monitoring tool
[02:16] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: whats the install method? (is it scripted, preseed? etc? in general the same on all?)
[02:16] <ceed^> How can I remove that mail notification envelope thing from the notification area?
[02:17] <Dr_willis> carajo,  you may want to ask in #hardware
[02:17] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: I manually walk through the server installer from disk.
[02:17] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: The only software selected at install time is OpenSSH Server
[02:17] <codezombie> same for every install
[02:18] <carajo> hey dr Dr_willis thank you i go there
[02:18] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: can you post to pastebin output for fdisk -l (under sudo)?
[02:18] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: did you run that lsof under sudo?
[02:19] <SolarisBoy> so human error is a possibility also
[02:19] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: https://gist.github.com/gitt/98b808a8d53da8979bf3
[02:19] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: I've done the install on this box three time to rule out any possible pebkac
[02:20] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: =) i understand it felt the same each time...
[02:20] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: can you post sudo parted -l?
[02:20] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: https://gist.github.com/gitt/98b808a8d53da8979bf3
[02:20] <SolarisBoy> i used preseed and pxe for multi server installs - thats the only way to be sure something is getting done right -
[02:21] <SolarisBoy> checking
[02:21] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: I disagree with that statement
[02:21] <SolarisBoy> thats ok -
[02:21] <nxt_> hi
[02:21] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: the issue is the partition starts 99.6MB into the disk
[02:21] <SolarisBoy> 99.6MB  492GB   492GB   ext4
[02:22] <SolarisBoy> thats your 8gb
[02:22] <codezombie> I'm confused how that equates to 8gb
[02:22] <trism> ceed^: sudo apt-get remove indicator-messages;
[02:23] <dysun> Hi all. I have an nVidia Geforce 7200 GS video card. I've finally managed to get the video drivers installed, but when I go under System -> Preferences -> Appearances -> Visual affects, the option is still greyed out. Any reason why this might be? I'm stuck =(
[02:24] <SolarisBoy> hrmm my bad you may be right there -
[02:24] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: is there a reason you did GPT partitions on both disks?
[02:25] <thomas____> part
[02:25] <darthanubis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs/+bug/1050021
[02:25] <SolarisBoy> wait - codezombie where is swap taken from?
[02:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone can tell me the version of ruby that comes standard with ubuntu 12.04?
[02:25] <bluebeat> hey, i recently update to 13.04, and im having this problem... i have a repeater at home that is most of the time disconnected, but when it is on the signal on my computer gets affected ( speed drops) how can i tell wcid to ignore the signal coming out of the repeater and only connect to the router... any ideas?
[02:26] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: an 8GB partition on the same disk
[02:26] <Guest24814> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4MCX3LbwJs
[02:26] <bluebeat> forgot to mention that i didnt have this issue on 12.10
[02:27] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: so sdxX where the last X - strange but seems relevant as your swap is about 8gb no?
[02:27] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: I did consider this, but as I said I've never had this issue... Swap is /dev/sda3
[02:27] <SolarisBoy> where the last X is partition number*
[02:27] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: from the end of the disk
[02:28] <excelsiora> Is there a reason that tomboy is no longer standard on ubuntu?
[02:28] <Jordan_U> codezombie: http://askubuntu.com/questions/131516/new-ext4-partition-and-used-space
[02:28] <SolarisBoy> codezombie: interesting
[02:29] <thomas____> excelsiora what ubuntu
[02:29] <SolarisBoy> yea there is over head but 8GB seems extreme
[02:29] <Dr_willis> excelsiora,  i think it was disliked for several reasons., was no longer getting developed, and had some other issues.. i used it for a long time.
[02:29] <SolarisBoy> =( -
[02:30] <savagecroc> how do you run sudo but keep all the current environment variables?
[02:30] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: sorry, I think I forgot to do this: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/paste/Ro4Nf
[02:30] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/96965/tomboy-alternatives
[02:30] <codezombie> Jordan_U: ah, that definitely makes sense
[02:30] <thomas____> I must've added Tomboy on my own, can't remember, have no problems with it on 12.04, but don't use it all that much, just sayin'
[02:30] <SolarisBoy> savagecroc: try -E
[02:30] <Dr_willis> savagecroc,  i recall   sudo -i   and sudo -s, one of those did that. but i can never rember which one
[02:30] <savagecroc> thanks :)
[02:31] <codezombie> SolarisBoy: based on that, 8GB would still be less than 2% overhead.
[02:31] <Jordan_U> savagecroc: Do you really want to keep *all* environment variables (generally not considered safe) or just some specifica variable(s)?
[02:31] <Dr_willis> i used tomboy a lot - because ubuntu one had the feature to view/sync your notes. but that aparently wasent used much. ;( so its been phased out
[02:31] <SolarisBoy> i don't have that much overhead on my larger disks..
[02:31] <SolarisBoy> which is what i was basing that on -
[02:32] <bolly> hi
[02:32] <savagecroc> Jordan_U: hmm i really just want it to be able to use the SSH keys to logon to the remote machine
[02:32] <thomas____> I must be behind the curve on syncing stuff  Dr Willis perhaps you could clue me in on how valuable that is..???
[02:32] <bolly> im trying to debootstrap quantul armel but its failing o Couldn't download dists/quantal/main/binary-armel/Packages
[02:32] <savagecroc> sudo -E did the trick
[02:32] <bolly> any idea?
[02:32] <savagecroc> sudo -i didn't seem to work
[02:32] <Jordan_U> savagecroc: What is your end goal? Running ssh with sudo doesn't make much sense to me.
[02:32] <SolarisBoy> -i interactive -s shell
[02:33] <savagecroc> ah right :)
[02:33] <savagecroc> -E = keep the environment variables
[02:33] <SolarisBoy> yeps
[02:33] <Dr_willis> thomas____,  all my notes across all machines got synced because they were saved to ubuntu one, so i could even access them from any web browser.
[02:33] <Dr_willis> thomas____,  but its a gone feature..
[02:34] <Dr_willis> Be nice if they added some config sync features to work with ubuntu one. make ubuntu stand out a bit more.
[02:34] <Dr_willis> Uubntu One just seems a bit of a afterthought these days
[02:35] <SolarisBoy> i like it
[02:35] <SolarisBoy> they fixed a lot of crap with it - because boy was it broken pre 12.04
[02:35] <Dr_willis> i got so many cloud storage accounts.. its scary. ;)
[02:35] <thomas____> I dunno....DR are you saying Ubunto One no longer has a sync feature...how to private message here also I am new on ifc
[02:35] <bluebeat> hey, i recently update to 13.04, and im having this problem... i have a repeater at home that is most of the time disconnected, but when it is on the signal on my computer gets affected ( speed drops) how can i tell wcid to ignore the signal coming out of the repeater and only connect to the router... any ideas?
[02:35] <Dr_willis> and the all seem to want me to auto-upload my android phone photos to them.
[02:35] <SolarisBoy> well thats why i like it because its there by default =)
[02:36] <SolarisBoy> hahaha Dr_willis
[02:36] <Dr_willis> thomas____,  ubuntu one no longer has the tomboy sync feature it had a few years back. (2 yr?)
[02:36] <l_r> hello
[02:37] <ugur> hey everybody
[02:37] <SolarisBoy> i kind of liked that feature (a lot) especially because i write a lot of stuff in notes and it was cool to have access to them from any ubuntu machine in a base installed app
[02:37] <l_r> my root disk is full
[02:37] <SolarisBoy> l_r: delete some files =)
[02:38] <l_r> SolarisBoy, it's because of a damn bug in the ext4 fs
[02:38] <SolarisBoy> l_r: nice
[02:38] <l_r> suddenly it appeared fulll
[02:38] <ugur> I want to ask did you like the new 13.04? I haven't upgraded from 12.10. What will I lose, what will I gain? Thanks in advance :)
[02:38] <l_r> i must find a solution ,fsck tells the fs is good after having fixed an inode
[02:38] <SolarisBoy> l_r: wow sounds bad - what bug is that? what causes it?
[02:38] <l_r> but the fs is still full
[02:39] <l_r> SolarisBoy, i don't know
[02:39] <SolarisBoy> l_r: post output to pastbin -
[02:39] <l_r> for sure it was not full when the thing happened
[02:39] <l_r> SolarisBoy, what output?
[02:39] <carrera> Greetings!  :)
[02:39] <thomas____> ubotto
[02:39] <SolarisBoy> l_r: df? du and stuff i guess
[02:40] <SolarisBoy> unless there is anything else you want to add there - fs errors from logs etc?
[02:40] <thomas____> ubottu
[02:40] <thomas____> how do you get bot help
[02:40] <l_r> SolarisBoy, i am on another system, since i could not even boot, and i cannot mount the partition , df reported 0 bytes free though
[02:40] <carrera> I'm currently running ubuntu 12.04 with RAID 0. Do ubuntu or xubuntu 13.04 dektop detect RAID?
[02:40] <SolarisBoy> l_r: do you know if there is reserved space? if so have you tried a recovery shell?
[02:41] <memphisraines> Has Nautlius' behaviour with symlinks changed from 12.10 to 13.04?
[02:41] <JimmyNeutron> Anyone have any problems with 13.04 where after doing a cold boot, you don't see the login screen?  Doing a warm reboot(ctrl+alt+delete seems to help so far.  I have Bumblebee installed.
[02:41] <l_r> SolarisBoy, i ran fsck in the fail-safe mode
[02:41] <thomas____> what can I type in here command-wise its been a long time since I was in ifc channel
[02:41] <l_r> SolarisBoy, fsck wrongly reports the fs is ok
[02:41] <Jordan_U> carrera: RAID support hasn't changed between 12.04 and 13.04, and as the core of the OS is the same, it will be the same between all flavors of Ubunut.
[02:41] <SolarisBoy> l_r: did you check the space in safe mode as root?
[02:41] <JimmyNeutron> I have a feeling the problem I'm seeing is related to the Low Graphics resolution I encounter any previous version.
[02:41] <l_r> SolarisBoy, yes, 0
[02:42] <SolarisBoy> l_r: can you point me a link to the bug?
[02:42] <SolarisBoy> l_r: there is a flag -f which will force a fsck regardless of the journal status - have you used that in the fsck command line?
[02:42] <qin> !bot > thomas____
[02:43] <l_r> SolarisBoy, i ll try
[02:43] <oldbreed> Hey, guys, I'm tryna back up my system because I'm about to expand the partition.  But the backup program is giving me this error: "Temp space has 2358272 available, backup needs approx 68157440."
[02:43] <b4ulook4me> Hi all... some how solved, 13.04 nvidia graphics bootup freeze
[02:43] <ceed^> trism, thanks
[02:43] <l_r> i need to reboot to try
[02:43] <b4ulook4me> installed nvidia drivers and now working ok
[02:43] <l_r> i am on an old ubuntu
[02:44] <SolarisBoy> oldbreed: that means the backup is trying to either use temp space for the destination location or as a location for temp ops like compression/encription or whatever,
[02:44] <carrera> Jordan_U, thanks. Then why doesn't xubuntu 13.04 recognize my RAID0 partitions?  It doesn't even let me create new ones.
[02:44] <SolarisBoy> oldbreed: if thats the destination for your backup - you may want to change it to a larger area if you don't have ability to expand that FS /tmp is on -
[02:44] <oldbreed> SolarisBoy: What do I do about it?  I've assigned the back up to an external hard drive, so I don't think the former is the problem
[02:44] <thomas____> !bot
[02:44] <b4ulook4me> n e one having experience in CUDA (nvidia)
[02:45] <SolarisBoy> oldbreed: check in your backup program settings and see if you can change where it does its "work" at
[02:45] <Jordan_U> carrera: What type of RAID is it?
[02:45] <carrera> Jordan_U, software RAID0. I created it with ubuntu 12.04 server.
[02:45] <SolarisBoy> oldbreed: and based on that size diff and the assumption that this did work at one point - maybe you have some additional unexpected large files in the source you didn't want to backup?
[02:47] <SolarisBoy> oldbreed: do you mount /tmp on a normal disk or something else? like memory mount etc?
[02:47] <oldbreed> SolarisBoy:  I installed Ubuntu through Windows 7 and am attempting to delete the Windows 7 partition and expand Ubuntu into its place.  I don't think I've ever backed it up before, and the issue is probably that the Windows partition is too big
[02:47] <carrera> Jordan_U, Toshiba Qosmio x500 laptop with 2 x 480 GB SanDisk SSD and nVidia M360
[02:47] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  you mean you did a WUBI  install inside windows?
[02:47] <oldbreed> SolarisBoy: I have no idea what what you just said emans
[02:47] <oldbreed> Yes, Dr_willis
[02:47] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  then you CANT remove windows.
[02:47] <SolarisBoy> ugh...
[02:47] <oldbreed> Wait, what?
[02:48] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  wubi installs to a file on the windows partition
[02:48] <oldbreed> Aw, shit
[02:48] <b4ulook4me> Hi Dr_Willis...
[02:48] <oldbreed> There's gotta be some workaround
[02:48] <Dr_willis> there are guides out on converting a wubi install to a normal install.. but i would backup improtnat stuff and do a clean install
[02:48] <SolarisBoy> oldbreed: what are you trying to do?
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> oldbreed, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi  as Dr_willis mentioned
[02:49] <Dr_willis> Im not sure how well migrateing wubi works. ;)
[02:49] <SolarisBoy> sounds scary
[02:49] <oldbreed> What's the risk?
[02:49] <Dr_willis> risk - it dont work. ;)
[02:49] <SolarisBoy> disk obfuscation
[02:49] <subcool> why isnt this like working...
[02:49] <subcool> sudo chown -R root:admin .  ## make this directory writable by the system administrators
[02:49] <Dr_willis> backup your wubi disk image file to some place else.. you can mount and access it from a ubuntu install
[02:50] <SolarisBoy> subcool: whats the error/return code if it failing?
[02:50] <subcool> SolarisBoy, chown: missing operand after `root:admin'
[02:50] <oldbreed> Dr_willis: then what precisely do I need to do.  I have an external hard drive that I'm attempting to back Ubuntu up onto, but I'm met with the error before.  I don't know how to resolve this
[02:50] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  what error?
[02:50] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  i just format my external to ext4 and copy my files over ;)
[02:51] <Jordan_U> subcool: Be very careful with chmod and chown with the -R switch, you may be changing a lot of files and thus it may be hard to reverse (as you won't know the original settings for each file).
[02:51] <oldbreed> Dr_willis: Temp space has 2358272 available, backup needs approx 68157440.
[02:51] <subcool> Jordan_U, its ok, its a kinda empy folder
[02:51] <subcool> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN - step 3
[02:52] <giupeppo> hi guys, I've just installed lubuntu 13.04 on my sony netbook but sound doesn't work.. can you help me please? (launching alsamixer it seem I've 3 different soundcards) thanks!!
[02:52] <oldbreed> Dr_willis: I can't format my external hard drive -- my image of windows is on there
[02:52] <carrera> Jordan_U, any ideas?
[02:53] <subcool> ok- guess the "." was necessary
[02:54] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  so how are you trying to back up to it? what are you backing up?
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> lols
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> subcool: you should also put what you typed not what you thought you copied =)
[02:54] <subcool> what?
[02:54] <oldbreed> Dr_willis:  I'm using the native Ubuntu backup program to try to back Ubuntu up to my external hard drive (about 400 GB hard drive)
[02:54] <subcool> i c/p'ed the command
[02:54] <subcool> from my terminal
[02:54] <oldbreed> Dr_willis: But I get the previous error
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> udo chown -R root:admin .  ## make this directory writable by the system administrators
[02:55] <SolarisBoy> this one?
[02:55] <SolarisBoy> with the "." ? right
[02:55] <subcool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5614650
[02:56] <SolarisBoy> subcool: did you post that one before?
[02:56] <subcool> oh ya- :/
[02:56] <SolarisBoy> =)
[02:56] <giupeppo> hi guys, I've just installed lubuntu 13.04 on my sony netbook but sound doesn't work.. can you help me please? (launching alsamixer it seem I've 3 different soundcards) thanks!!
[02:57] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  never used it.. i just backup my imporntant files. ive never done a  full system backup
[02:57] <azazel91> can anybody tell me why i cant connect to localhost
[02:57] <Dr_willis> azazel91,  connect how?
[02:58] <subcool> should i be concerned about this: subcool@AMDServer:/etc/openvpn/easy-rsa$ ./clean-all
[02:58] <subcool> rm: cannot remove `/etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/keys': Permission denied
[02:58] <azazel91> i guess the server is not running im not sure
[02:58] <oldbreed> Dr_willis: So, theoretically, if I managed to back up my system, could I restore it outside of Windows and keep everything as it is now?
[02:58] <SolarisBoy> subcool: you need to be root to run those scripts int hat directory -
[02:58] <SolarisBoy> subcool: or use sudo
[02:58] <carrera> can anyone tell me how I can go from ubuntu 12.04 to xubuntu 13.04 and keep my RAID0 config?
[02:58] <subcool> SolarisBoy, ok- thanks.
[02:59] <subcool> i was considering the same. but- the example says sudo the frist times.
[02:59] <atrus> !error | azazel91
[02:59] <SolarisBoy> oldbreed: the ubuntu default program allows you to exclude by folder if that helps -
[02:59] <azazel91> oh ok i give you the details
[02:59] <Jordan_U> carrera: If nothing else you can upgrade to 2.10 then 13.04.
[02:59] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  teres dozens of ways to backup stuff. I dont backup an entire system. I just keep my improntant data files./ and any specaial configs somewhere.. then do a clean install and copy them back
[03:00] <carrera> Jordan_U, thank u sir but can I upgrade from ubuntu to xubuntu?
[03:00] <Jordan_U> carrera: You can also use the server install CD for 13.04. I'm still trying to figure out it the Desktop image is supposed to support mdraid.
[03:00] <atrus> carrera: #1: if your data is important, you back it up. if you don't have a backup, you don't consider it important. also, raid is NOT a backup.
[03:00] <carrera> Jordan_U, thanks, u're awesome!  :)
[03:01] <oldbreed> Dr_willis:  But I kinda wanna keep everything.  The whole reason I'm tryna delete Windows is because I was settled into Ubuntu...
[03:01] <Dr_willis> carrera,  you just upgrade, then install the xubuntu-desktop package
[03:01] <azazel91> well i installed this server a couple a months ago today i wanted to test it out so i went to the main page (http://localhost) but firfox cant obviously connect well thats what it says
[03:01] <foobArrr> does using compiz / compositing affect gaming performance?
[03:01] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  might be quicker to just reinstall and restore the imporntant stuff.. people try to hard to 'clone'  setups..
[03:01] <atrus> carrera: #2 do you have some reason to think upgrading from 12.04->12.10->13.04 wouldn't work? that's the usual approach for upgrading, raid or not.
[03:01] <SolarisBoy> azazel91: if you don't run a webserver on localhost that would make sense
[03:01] <Jordan_U> carrera: The only difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu is the default set of installed packages. You can install xubuntu-desktop at any time (and remove whatever bits you don't want that came with ubuntu-desktop).
[03:01] <carrera> atrus, I have a recent backup but I can't even create RAID from xubuntu 13.04 desktop!
[03:02] <SolarisBoy> azazel91: do you purposefully set you main page to the localhost on port 80?
[03:02] <azazel91> well i dont know what port example im a newbie and all
[03:02] <SolarisBoy> azazel91: the http:// implies port 80 unless the port is specified after the HOSTNAME part -
[03:03] <azazel91> yes
[03:03] <SolarisBoy> azazel91: so in general that entry of having your browser default page be localhost - implies something is answering back like a webserver would - either by you having one installed locally - or forwarding ports or etc.
[03:04] <azazel91> so how exactly do i fix this
[03:04] <SolarisBoy> azazel91: so if the problem is you can't connect to the localhost - and you indeed know that you should have a webserver there - then you should check if that webserver is up/running -
[03:04] <SolarisBoy> azazel91: you need to know why you have localhost set in your browser more accurately though - that would help
[03:04] <carrera> Jordan_U, Dr_willis, atrus, I really don't want Unity and Zeitgeist on my system. That's why I'm moving to xubuntu. Also, if I upgrade, would it upgrade to 13.04 server or desktop?
[03:04] <atrus> carrera: what do you have installed right now?
[03:04] <oldbreed> Dr_willis:  What qualifies as important?
[03:05] <oldbreed> Dr_willis:  What kinds of things should I be backing up?
[03:05] <carrera> 12.04 server, then I installed gnome
[03:05] <atrus> carrera: if you upgrade, i expect you'll basically have the same thing, but the 13.04 version.
[03:06] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  its your system.. you tell me whats imporntant to you..
[03:06] <carrera> but I have problems with wirless. It takes for ever to resolve and I'm on a 25 Mb/s connection.
[03:06] <azazel91> so solarisboy how to restart the server
[03:06] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  i normally just backup my home. and any custome configs
[03:06] <carrera> I just booted with xubuntu 13.04 live and pages open ever so quickly
[03:07] <carrera> also, the 12.04 server kept looking for Ethernet connection at boot, therefore slowing down my boot
[03:07] <oldbreed> Dr_willis:  One last question on the cloning...can I just copy my whole folder into the external drive?
[03:08] <oldbreed> And how do I even go about installing the new OS without an OS?  I've never operated a computer without an operating system
[03:08] <Jordan_U> carrera: Again, the difference between Ubuntu flavors is only the default set of installed packages (and, in the case of server a different installer), it's all "Ubuntu". If you installed Ubuntu server then installed the ubuntu-desktop metapackage, then installed tux racer then when you upgrade you will have all of the packages from ubuntu-server, and ubuntu-desktop, and you will also still have tux racer.
[03:08] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  you make a bootable cd.. or usb..  and boot it
[03:09] <oldbreed> How big a CD would I need?
[03:09] <Jordan_U> oldbreed: A DVD.
[03:09] <oldbreed> Jordan_U:  So a 700MB CD-RW Wouldn't work?
[03:10] <carrera> atrus, at this point, I'm willing to forget about my 1 TB of data and read it back from backup but xubuntu 13.04 desktop and I bet ubuntu desktop will not let me create RAID partitions
[03:10] <carrera> Jordan_U, thanks. Then upgrade is not an option
[03:10] <Guest12875> what binds the keyboard fn volume keys' up/down to the pulseaudio mixer configuration and where do I find it please?
[03:11] <Jordan_U> oldbreed: If you're trying to install Ubuntu Desktop, no. (technically you could install from the mini.iso, which will even fit easily on a business card CD, but I doubt that you want to do that).
[03:11] <Jordan_U> carrera: You're welcome.
[03:11] <carrera> can anyone tell me how to create RAID partitions with 13.04 desktop?
[03:11] <carrera> is it even possible?
[03:11] <SolarisBoy> Guest12875: check in the Settings>Keyboard section
[03:11] <Guest12875> yes it is but why do a software raid
[03:11] <oldbreed> Jordan_U:  I just realized that I could us the 400GB external HDD I have -- that would work, correct?
[03:12] <Jordan_U> carrera: I think your best option would probably be to install via the netboot iso, or install via the server iso then install the ubuntu-desktop metapackage (and remove any of the ubuntu-server packages you don't want).
[03:12] <Jordan_U> oldbreed: Use it for what?
[03:12] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  make a bootable usb flash drive.. its the handiest thing to have and to install from
[03:13] <oldbreed> Dr_willis:  I have an 8GB flash drive on-hand right now.  Would that be sufficient?
[03:13] <Dr_willis> oldbreed,  yes
[03:13] <Dr_willis> it dosent need to be more then like 4gb i think
[03:13] <carrera> Jordan_U, I have problems with my current server install. For one, it takes too long to boot when ethernet is not connected. 2. page loads, dns resolves, take too long!  :(
[03:13] <erdmutter92> Does ubuntu 13.04 have out of the box support for the fans in the macbook pro?
[03:14] <carrera> Jordan_U, that's why I don't want to go the Server + DE root again
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> !mac | erdmutter92
[03:15] <Jordan_U> erdmutter92: I think I answered you the last time you asked that. Do you remember that?
[03:15] <carrera> Jordan_U, but I haven't tried netboot yet. Someone on #xubuntu also suggested that
[03:15] <erdmutter92> Jordan_U: No, I don't I am sorry :\
[03:15] <carrera> Jordan_U, it's a 30 MB file
[03:16] <SolarisBoy> is just the base kernel and small environment enough to pull the other OS files from the net
[03:16] <SolarisBoy> the trade off is install time is longer than having it all on a local media -
[03:17] <carrera> Dr_willis, Jordan_U, atrus, many thanks for your help. Going to try netboot. Wish me luck!
[03:17] <BitcoinTicker> What's up
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[03:17] <Dr_willis> carrera,  id have a bootable cd/usb/dvd allready made.. incase that fails
[03:17] <erdmutter92> lotuspsychje: That document does not have information on fans nor the Macbook Pro 9,2.
[03:17] <Rootbrian> solarisboy: if you have a good quality high speed connection, it would be just as fast as from CD.
[03:17] <Jordan_U> erdmutter92: The fans in macs are controlled by the firmware, so the OS doesn't need to support anything for the fans to automatically turn on when things start getting hot. There is also some support for telling the firmware to increase the fan speed (or decrease it, though that's not recommended) beyond what it would normally do. I don't know if there is support for the latter bit for all macbook pro models.
[03:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone can tell me the version of ruby that comes standard with ubuntu 12.04?
[03:18] <BitcoinTicker> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?agj93792vkallkb MtGox bitcoin desktop ticker
[03:18] <Jordan_U> BitcoinTicker: Please don't post spam in this channel.
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> !ops | BitcoinTicker
[03:19] <erdmutter92> Jordan_U: Thank you :) my macbook pro was getting hot, and I was starting to worry because I could not hear the fan... though my boyfriend informed me that it might not need it quite yet. xD
[03:20] <Jordan_U> erdmutter92: Apple's defaults for the fan tend to be pretty low, I think that they value quietness over coolness (and remember that companies don't sell "laptops" anymore, just "notebooks" :)
[03:22] <erdmutter92> Jordan_U: lol so true...  xD
[03:22] <joaquin> somebody has a minute to help me out with the packaging guide?
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: wich channel can i request a new trigger?
[03:24] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: #ubuntu-ops, or just "/msg ubottu !foo is <reply> Foo is bar!".
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_u: tnx mate
[03:25] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: You're welcome.
[03:25] <zivester> anyone have ubuntu installed on a macbook with refit or refind? wondering how kernel updates are handled
[03:26] <Jordan_U> zivester: rEFIt and refind just load grub, which handles kernel updates the same way it does for other platforms.
[03:26] <subcool> Ok, i got a good one for you this time guys. Is there a way to deteremine which usb port is the usb2 or 3 port?
[03:26] <zivester> Jordan_U, I installed ubuntu without grub... and i had to manually copy my kernel images over to the /EFI/ directory of OSX
[03:27] <shantorn> usb3 ports are blue
[03:27] <Jordan_U> zivester: Why didn't you install grub?
[03:27] <zivester> Jordan_U, tutorials i followed said not to: http://randomtutor.blogspot.com/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina.html
[03:27] <zivester> and I would assume it would install to the MBR and would wipe out everything
[03:28] <Jordan_U> zivester: 1: It wouldn't install to the MBR if you were using grub-efi 2: Even if you were using grub-pc and installed grub to the MBR it wouldn't "wipe out everything", in fact it would "wipe out" or hurt anything.
[03:29] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. They need to make usb ports glow in the dark so i can find them when im trying to plug in somthing under the desk to the pc... ;)
[03:29] <zivester> Jordan_U, how do specificy whether it uses grub-efi and not grub-pc?  I'm not a mac user by any means, if I had a choice I wouldn't be using one
[03:30] <Jordan_U> zivester: The author of that Tutorial seems to assume that grub doesn't support EFI. Grub has supported EFI for longer than refind or rEFIt have existed.
[03:31] <Jordan_U> zivester: If you boot the Ubuntu installation media via [U]EFI then it will detect that and install grub-efi, and you can always install the grub-efi package manually yourself later.
[03:32] <zivester> Jordan_U, ok well its a 13.04 install on a rMBP... I installed refind and xubuntu without a bootloader... if you were doing it would you have just installed it with the bootloader?
[03:32] <zivester> I'm not sure whether it booted it UEFI or not
[03:32] <Jordan_U> zivester: Yes.
[03:34] <trakowski77> trying to use irc on 13.04, with accounts...
[03:34] <trakowski77> Not sure how to do it
[03:34] <zivester> Jordan_U, just booted from my USB key again... it shows two EFI boot options... both seem to load the same xubuntu live image... so if i installed this again it will install correctly?  how will the OSX /EFI/ directory know about the ubuntu install?
[03:35] <joaquinPlanet> hi, can u read me? I don't know if I set this right
[03:36] <Jordan_U> joaquinPlanet: No, we can't see you.
[03:36] <joaquinPlanet> haha, thanks
[03:36] <trakowski77> can someone help me connecting to IRC using empathy on 13.04 ? I'm trying to use the Online Account thing but no luck
[03:37] <Jordan_U> zivester: Install Ubuntu normally but keep refind. You will get an refind menu at boot which will allow you to choose between loading OSX and loading grub, and if you load grub it will work as normal.
[03:37] <trakowski77> (i'm currently connected using Pidgin)
[03:38] <trakowski77> also, does anyone know if it is possible to connect to Lync using empathy ?
[03:39] <zivester> Jordan_U, so in that case, I don't need to manually create the /EFI/ubuntu directory with the initrd or vmlinuz files? I'll have to check that out
[03:39] <Jordan_U> zivester: Correct.
[03:39] <zivester> last thing I want to do is mess up my system so I can't get into OSX
[03:41] <bambam> Hi, is anyone else having issues with flash on 13.04. I'd like to get GPU rendering/decoding working on flash without having the adobe flash plugin crash 50% of the time at random (I'm having trouble re-creating the issue)
[03:41] <bambam> I'm using NVIDIA drivers with VDPAU
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> trakowski77: http://askubuntu.com/questions/173417/chatting-with-empathy
[03:42] <truexfan81> when i kernel drops to a initramfs prompt, does it leave a log somewhere to tell why?
[03:42] <cthulhusaurus> hi
[03:42] <trakowski77> lotuspsychje: thanks, checking it out
[03:43] <bambam> I created a file called mms.cfg in /etc/adobe and added the following "EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1 OverrideGPUValidation=1" and while that seemed to be able to get me smooth HD video playback, I have the adobe flash plugin crash at random
[03:43] <bambam> Has anyone else experienced this?
[03:43] <Jordan_U> truexfan81: No, it can't because the root filesystem hasn't been mounted yet (so there is nowhere to write a log to).
[03:43] <truexfan81> ouch
[03:43] <bambam> I still have*
[03:43] <truexfan81> Jordan_U: so no way to figure out what is broken in the custom kernel then?
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> bambam: did you upgrade or clean install?
[03:43] <bambam> lotuspsychje: Clean install
[03:44] <bambam> I've had this issue with Ubuntu since as far as I've had this GPU (3 years)
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> bambam: thats weird indeed, did you check additional drivers if grafix driver changed?
[03:44] <bambam> lousygarua: Yes, I'm using nvidia-current
[03:44] <bambam> tested
[03:44] <truexfan81> bambam: that is normal for flash to crash with hw acceleration turned on, i did figure out a work around for it tho
[03:44] <cthulhusaurus> irssi
[03:45] <bambam> truexfan81: Really? I'd like to hear it
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> bambam: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[03:45] <bambam> lotuspsychje: Yes, I did
[03:45] <truexfan81> bambam: if you pay attention it give the bottom control bar just b4 the vid starts
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> bambam: other browsers with same issue?
[03:46] <truexfan81> bambam: click the fullscreen button b4 the video starts and it will come up and play, once its playing you can exit fullscreen if you wish
[03:46] <bambam> lotuspsychje: All browsers using the flash installed from the package "flashplugin-installer"
[03:46] <bambam> which is what ubuntu-restricted-extras provides, IIRC
[03:47] <bambam> Chrome's pepper flash works without crashing but I'm not able to get GPU video decoding working
[03:47] <bambam> so HD playback has a lot of frame drops
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> bambam: i know but does it crash same way for another browser
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[03:47] <truexfan81> bambam: the pepper flash does not use the mms.cfg, thats why
[03:47] <bambam> lotuspsychje: I should try to reproduce it
[03:47] <truexfan81> use what i told you, i promise it works
[03:48] <bambam> truexfan81: Yeah, is there any way I can get HWVideoDecoding work with pepper?
[03:48] <trakowski77> lotuspsychje: I think this tutorial refers to 12.10. On 13.04 things appear to be much different
[03:48] <truexfan81> bambam: if so i have never found it
[03:48] <bambam> truexfan81: Actually I think I've done exactly what you describe on accident
[03:48] <bambam> Dirty fix
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> bambam: maybe its early bug in nvidia-current?
[03:48] <truexfan81> yeah try it again, see does it not work
[03:48] <babel_> Hi. I just setup 13.04, and the wired connection takes extremely long to establish. but once connected, it's fast
[03:49] <bambam> lotuspsychje: I'm willing to bet it's more likely flash
[03:49] <bambam> It's unsupported now afterall, right?
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> !info flashplugin-installer
[03:50] <truexfan81> lotuspsychje: flash with hw acceleration crashes on linux no matter what hw or driver, a simple google search proves that
[03:50] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. HW acellreation was working for me last night i noticed.. at least the check box was enabled
[03:51] <truexfan81> Dr_willis: best way to check it is with youtube
[03:51] <bambam> truexfan81: You mean full HW acceleration
[03:51] <truexfan81> put a vid fullscreen, then right-click and click show video info, it will tell you
[03:51] <Dr_willis> I just recall seeing a flash video, in the properties. the 'enable hardware acceleration' was checked.
[03:52] <Dr_willis> I recall that i had actually turned that off some months ago.. to get rid of  the SMURF Syndrome. ;)
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> lol
[03:52] <bambam> truexfan81: what flash do you have installed?
[03:52] <bambam> what package
[03:52] <truexfan81> bambam: i have a gtx650 with the latest nvidia beta driver
[03:52] <truexfan81> i have flash 11.2
[03:53] <truexfan81> it crashes just as you described, unless i do what i told you which is to fullscreen it b4 the vid starts playing
[03:53] <ddsss> suspend doesn't work in 13.04 - why?
[03:53] <omegasir> I don't like unity
[03:53] <Dr_willis> omegasir,  so use somthing else.
[03:53] <truexfan81> bambam: one of the many things adobe did not fix before they abandoned linux
[03:54] <james-ubc> omegasir, does anybody actually like unity?
[03:54] <Dr_willis> Unity works fine for me.
[03:54] <james-ubc> it's the ugliest thing I've ever seen
[03:54] <sam113101> I like it
[03:54] <Dr_willis> Subjective opinions. ;)
[03:54] <Dr_willis> ive definatly seen Uglier.
[03:54] <james-ubc> no it's really not subjective
[03:54] <Dr_willis> Yes it is..
[03:54] <james-ubc> it's poor HCI
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> bambam: can you do this in terminal cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep sse2
[03:55] <scriptjunkie> anybody seen issues with wireless interference after 13.04 upgrade?
[03:55] <jcoreyelmore> Hi, does anybody feel like helping me figure out a problem with deluge?
[03:55] <james-ubc> it has gaudy usless gradients and blurrs
[03:55] <Dr_willis> HydroCloraicAcid? :)
[03:55] <james-ubc> that serve no real purpose
[03:55] <jcoreyelmore> Any time I add a torrent it gives me the error of permission denied
[03:55] <james-ubc> do not help conveyance or hint properly
[03:55] <scriptjunkie> just submitted https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1174145 <- really painful to the rest of my family :-(
[03:55] <scriptjunkie> yeah that was me
[03:55] <james-ubc> that's objectively poor UI design
[03:55] <truexfan81> jcoreyelmore: try #deluge ;)
[03:55] <jcoreyelmore> i'm somewhat of a noob and don't want to mess things up changing permissions
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> !broadcom | scriptjunkie
[03:55] <bambam> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5614750/
[03:56] <Dr_willis> james-ubc,  sounds like you are just spouting off buzzwords.. but its not really on topic.
[03:56] <bambam> truexfan81: That's what I've read too - may I ask how you have flash 11.2 installed?
[03:56] <bambam> What's the name of the package you use
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> bambam: does sse2 turn red?
[03:56] <scriptjunkie> lotuspsychje - what? is that a command I should run? or are you a bot?
[03:56] <truexfan81> bambam: my linux netbook is running debian wheezy, so the package name is likely different
[03:56] <bambam> lotuspsychje: Yes it does
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> scriptjunkie: its a help page for installing broadcom drivers
[03:57] <LargePrime> I have a user i added to www-data.  They cannot seem to edit files in /var/www.  Sorry for the noobish.  what did i do wrong?
[03:57] <scriptjunkie> ah
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> bambam: your machine should be able to run flash then
[03:57] <Dr_willis> LargePrime,  did you log out/back in after adding them to the group?
[03:57] <truexfan81> bambam: but if you really want me to i can ssh in and search for the package name
[03:58] <LargePrime> Dr_willis: me?  or them?
[03:58] <bambam> lotuspsychje: Yeah, it can run it (software rendering and decoding) but if I want to play 720p video, I get way too many framedrops
[03:58] <Flannel> LargePrime: Did you modify permissions to enable group writing?
[03:58] <Dr_willis> LargePrime,  if you change a users group the changes do not take affect untill the user logs back in. I think ive seen others have this issue
[03:58] <truexfan81> bambam: my search shows i   flashplugin-nonfree             - Adobe Flash Player - browser plugin
[03:58] <mar> what must I install to get this page to work? http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Scan.aspx?lang=en-us
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> bambam: did you try a 720p or higher on vlc, what does it do?
[03:58] <LargePrime> Flannel: nope.  how i do?
[03:58] <mar> i have JRE7 installed already
[03:59] <LargePrime> Flannel: sorry i retract that
[03:59] <Flannel> LargePrime: no worries.
[03:59] <Dr_willis> mar : its best to use the nvidia drivers from the repos. not the ones from the nvidia.com site
[03:59] <bambam> lotuspsychje: I have to use the OpenGL render and enable GPU decoding, then HD film is very smooth, zero frame drops.
[03:59] <LargePrime> Dr_willis: can i force a logout
[03:59] <scriptjunkie> lotuspsychje thanks - will be back if I don't kill my wireless driver
[03:59] <Dr_willis> LargePrime,  i imagine you can.. but why?
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> bambam: then it must be flash like you think
[04:00] <truexfan81> bambam: i dare you to try smplayer with vdpau output
[04:00] <bambam> truexfan81: Yep, I already have (but with mplayer)
[04:00] <LargePrime> Dr_willis:  cause it easier to force than ans and wait
[04:00] <truexfan81> bambam: yeah smplayer is just a gui for mplayer
[04:00] <sean-w> Why are the ubuntu repos unusable in ipv6?
[04:01] <bambam> lotuspsychje: I was able to get smooth HD flash playback once I installed the vdapau library and enable EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode and OverrideGPUValidation in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg
[04:01] <Dr_willis> LargePrime,  you could just reboot the whole box if you want to go overboard.. ;)
[04:01] <trakowski77> anyone knows how to make empathy connect to sipe (Microsoft Lync) ? ... ubuntu 13.04...
[04:02] <bambam> lotuspsychje: I'm not sure why I have to install  libvdpau1 since I know the nvidia binary drivers already come with an vdpau driver
[04:02] <cthulhus2urus> \networ
[04:02] <bambam> but that seemed to do the trick
[04:02] <mar> Dr_willis: ok. So then how do I do that. I notice 'additional-drivers' jockey thingy doesn't come with 13.04
[04:03] <bambam> Anyway, it is hit or miss, I have to do that trick truexfan81 talked about to not make flash crash
[04:03] <Dr_willis> mar its in there.. its under software sources -> addational drivers tab.
[04:03] <bambam> truexfan81: Actually it seems like flash also crashes whenever I try to seek video that hasn't been pre-loaded
[04:03] <bambam> Did you experience that too?
[04:03] <truexfan81> bambam: i haven't tried to seek one with that so no
[04:03] <bambam> I'll try to recreate this in another browser, like Opera
[04:04] <truexfan81> bambam: i mainly only use flashplayer for justin.tv
[04:05] <mar> Dr_willis, aha, just not installed
[04:05] <bambam> truexfan81: do you get frame drops when viewing HTML 5 hd video?
[04:05] <truexfan81> bambam: idk
[04:05] <bambam> there is no GPU acceleration IIRC?
[04:05]  * bambam is wondering when flash is going to die
[04:05] <truexfan81> i'm not very familiar with html5, so i can't say much about it
[04:09] <bambam> lotuspsychje: I wish I could see what those adobe flash crash reports are saying
[04:09] <bambam> There doesn't seem to be a way to see what they dump
[04:09] <bambam> only "send report"
[04:11] <Dr_willis> bambam,  sadly i even see Ubuntu Blog sites still using Flash for their videos  ;(
[04:15] <LargePrime> thanks Dr_willis  Flannel .  the combo worked
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> bambam: maybe try a tail -f on /var/log/syslog and fool around with flash a bit
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> bambam: or star firefox from terminal and see what msges you get
[04:17] <batmite> Hi, is there a channel for general IRC questions/info?
[04:17] <bambam> lotuspsychje: I think like truexfan81 said, it seems like a bug Adobe refused to fix right before it officially dropped support for Linux
[04:17] <Dr_willis> batmite,  #irc or #freenode or one for your specific client
[04:17] <batmite> Dr_willis thanks
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> bambam: i had same issues like you on older systems using older grafix cards with flash
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> bambam: all new systems i installed ubuntu with never gave me any troubles anymore
[04:18] <bambam> Dr_willis: :/ well, if they're going to post their HTML 5 videos in HD, I probably won't be able to stream them smoothly within my browser anyway :\
[04:19] <truexfan81> lotuspsychje: define old, i have that crashing issue with my nvidia gtx650
[04:19] <bambam> lotuspsychje: HD video too?
[04:19] <bambam> lotuspsychje: The card isn't very old, it
[04:19] <bambam> 's an NVIDIA GT 610
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> bambam: it had no hd no
[04:20] <bambam> yeah, that seems to be the difference
[04:20] <bambam> I can comfortably view 360p flash videos without HW acceleration  and get no frame drops
[04:21] <truexfan81> bambam: i have a dualcore 2.9with 4GB ram, i can watch 1080p flash with or without hw acceleration, with no frame drops
[04:21] <bambam> truexfan81: I have a single core, so I'm forced to use hw acceleration
[04:21] <truexfan81> i just like the hw acceleration because it frees up my cpu for other things
[04:21] <Dr_willis> i tend to just use the various flash-downloader extensions. ;)
[04:21] <bambam> same
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> bambam: what does chrome do on 1080p youtubes on your system?
[04:22] <bambam> Dr_willis: Same here, it can get cumbersome, I just want to stream video sometimes
[04:22] <Dr_willis> bambam,  there used to be a flash-replacer extension that would play flash videos in vlc or mplayer embeded in the browser. or poped out..
[04:22] <bambam> I have been looking for that
[04:23] <bambam> it seems like it's been discontinued or something
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> indeed
[04:23] <Dr_willis> yep. it still worked last i used it. but you got to get it from the plugins site. not the firefox site
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> but there's a plugin for firefox 'open with anything' or something
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> then open smplayer
[04:23] <biggenius> Hello
[04:24] <UbunWinTosh> I'm unable to adjust brightness for my Ubuntu OS. Does anyone know why that is? I tried screendimmer but it didn't work. I suspect it may have to do with the proprietary video driver.
[04:24] <biggenius> Fn + f5
[04:24] <biggenius> Try that
[04:24] <UbunWinTosh> biggenius: I tried that along with the settings in the Brightness and lock app. Neither worked.
[04:24] <biggenius> Guys anyone knows how to join django irc channel on freenode?
[04:25] <biggenius> hmm strange
[04:25] <biggenius> my installation doesn't remember brightness settings
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> biggenius, /j "channel"
[04:26] <biggenius> tried that bro
[04:26] <biggenius> it says "you must be identified with service"
[04:26] <biggenius> I don't know, how it works, already registered
[04:26] <UbunWinTosh> I also tried joining #Django but that room does not load.
[04:26] <UbunWinTosh> other rooms do load for me.
[04:26] <truexfan81> biggenius: /msg nickserv help identify
[04:26] <biggenius> biggenius: /msg nickserv help identify
[04:27] <Dr_willis> Many channels require you to be Identified. Your chat client proberly gave some message about that
[04:27] <biggenius> ok
[04:27] <biggenius> thanks bro it worked!!!
[04:27] <UbunWinTosh> As soon as I joined #Ubuntu for my first time, I was banned and had to re-enter. I think it's because I had a username similar to someone else and didn't identify, so I was banned.
[04:28] <bambam> Dr_willis: http://www.webgapps.org/addons/flashvideoreplacer
[04:28] <bambam> :/
[04:28] <Dr_willis> bambam,  if its open sourced.. you could revive it! ;)
[04:28] <biggenius> ok
[04:30] <mar> Dr_willis, I installed additional drivers but it doesn't show up in my classic menu indicator or in unity launcher. There's one comment at the bottom of the entry in Software Centre and it says 'why you no werk for 13.04?'
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> bambam: https://addons.mozilla.org/nl/firefox/addon/open-with/ then install that smplayer
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> bambam: maybe #firefox knows any new stuff?
[04:31] <bambam> lotuspsychje: I should ask, yeah
[04:31] <mar> Dr_willis, search USC for nvidia gives 3 drivers. Should I install one of these?
[04:32] <Dr_willis> mar i always just install nvidia-current
[04:32] <Dr_willis> but i got an older nvidia card.  a 320gtx i think.
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> Dr_willis: is there a command to know wich driver 13.04 would install by setup default?
[04:33] <alumno> a
[04:34] <Dr_willis> never really noticed lotuspsychje ...  all my pcs use the same drivers :)
[04:34] <mar> Dr_willis, sounds reasonable. I've messed up in the past installing the latest and didn't know how to reset X configuration
[04:34] <truexfan81> lotuspsychje: by default do you mean that comes with a new 13.04 install? that would be nouveau
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> truexfan81: but maybe there are left-overs that would corrupt on upgrade?
[04:36] <truexfan81> not sure what you mean by an upgrade do you mean upgrading from a previous ubuntu (bad idea) or a previous proprietary driver install?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> bbl sorry
[04:41] <UbunWinTosh> What's the easiest way to move a file from Desktop to /etc/api? It's requiring root privileges in order to do that.
[04:42] <Dr_willis> sudo cp file /path/to/file
[04:42] <jrib> UbunWinTosh: what's /etc/api for?  What's this file for?
[04:42] <UbunWinTosh> jrib: for adjusting brightness
[04:42] <Dr_willis> you need sudo rights to mess with the system directories  of course. ;)
[04:42] <UbunWinTosh> it's actually going into /etc/api/events
[04:43] <UbunWinTosh> jrib: sorry, I meant acpi
[04:45] <UbunWinTosh> Nevermind, I found out. sudo cp /source/files /destination/folder :)
[04:46] <Dr_willis> sudo cp file /path/to/file       like i said... ;)
[04:47] <UbunWinTosh> oh sorry, missed that Dr_willis. I found it by Googling. :D
[04:47] <Tumlee> Is it just me, or is there no longer a preferences menu in Nautilus as of 13.04?
[04:49] <benno123>  how do i use my own PGP signature with mail.ru ?
[04:50] <bambam> What would cause my /tmp/ folder to fill up so quickly on a fresh install? I did not download anything except stream a few videos
[04:50] <bambam> It filled up to 50 GB O_O
[04:50] <thomas____> Open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install nautilus.
[04:50] <thomas____> Then restart your session.
[04:50] <thomas____> For some reason, Nautilus is not completely updated when you install the Elementary version. This will complete the upgrading process and Preferences and Menu will be there again the next time you start Nautilus.
[04:51] <Tumlee> Restart my nautilus session, or my gnome session?
[04:51] <thomas____> copied this from a user question on ubuntu help pages
[04:51] <thomas____> that was the answer, I meant to add!
[04:52] <thomas____> nautilus session I assume
[04:53] <Tumlee> I just did did sudo apt-get install nautilus, it was already installed (I've actually reinstalled it from when I removed it earlier anyway)
[04:53] <thomas____> but it wouldn't hurt to try one and then the other
[04:53] <Tumlee> doing killall nautilus and reopening nautilus did nothing
[04:53] <UbunWinTosh> just finished this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2088190&s=5b63fff9c23a2a229aa15a06ca453f1d&p=12373220#post12373220 and brightness still does not work! :(
[04:53] <Tumlee> Furthermore, any view settings I change (such as hiding the side bar) are completely forgotten the next time I open nautilus
[04:54] <Dr_willis> Tumlee,  you havent ran nautilus as root  in the past have you?
[04:54] <Tumlee> I've done a gksudo nautilus, if that's what you mean
[04:55] <thomas____> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1110025     this is a link to other suggestions about your problem Tumlee
[04:56] <RustyShackleford> what does ubuntu plan to do for names pretty soon
[04:56] <zilla_> HI
[04:56] <Tumlee> This is not the same bug I have experienced
[04:57] <RustyShackleford> there are some trick letters coming up
[04:57] <Tumlee> I am missing all menus no matter if I run as user or root
[04:57] <RustyShackleford> Z___ Z___
[04:57] <zilla_> how can i install ubuntu to usb external drive from windows
[04:57] <Tumlee> Judging by this screenshot http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/new-nautilus-in-ubuntu.jpg It looks like it's not even supposed to be there
[04:57] <RustyShackleford> zilla_, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[04:57] <Jordan_U> zilla_: A real installation (Not just a liveUSB)?
[04:58] <zilla_> yes
[04:58] <RustyShackleford> oh nevermind then
[04:58] <Jordan_U> zilla_: You basically can't. Why do you want to do it "from Windows"?
[04:58] <zilla_> because when i try rom linux
[04:59] <zilla_> it says BUG: cannot blah blah kernel
[04:59] <Jordan_U> zilla_: What is the exact error message and when do you see it?
[04:59] <Paul_MyBB1> Hey, is anyone else having an issue where after you close an application the icon remains pinned to the launcher even if you didn't pin it?
[04:59] <zilla_> Jordan_U:  too tired to look it over again
[04:59] <Paul_MyBB1> (raring)
[04:59] <zilla_> just trying to get it wo work
[05:00] <Dr_willis> Tumlee,  ive seen cases where running nautilus as root writes some of the config files to the users home. only owned by root.. thus the user cant change them
[05:00] <Jordan_U> zilla_: When did you see the error?
[05:00] <zilla_> at boot
[05:00] <zilla_> when it normallyu shows ubuntu loading
[05:00] <zilla_> the try / install options
[05:00] <zilla_> cant get to graphics
[05:00] <zilla_> awful
[05:01] <Dr_willis> !nomodeset
[05:01] <Tumlee> Sorry, I was disconnected.
[05:01] <Dr_willis> Tumlee,  ive seen cases where running nautilus as root writes some of the config files to the users home. only owned by root.. thus the user cant change them. Id check your Home directroy for stuff owned by root
[05:01] <Jordan_U> zilla_: Pretty much any problem you have booting the LiveDVD/USB you'll also have trying to boot the installed system (until you fix it of course).
[05:03] <Tumlee> Oh wow... I think these features may have been genuinely removed. I guess it's time to get an older version of nautilus
[05:04] <Cyris> technically i can put virtualbox in an external HD and run it from that, correct?
[05:05] <Jordan_U> Tumlee: Did you check for menus at the top of the screen (which are hidden until you move the mouse there)?
[05:05] <Dr_willis> itss not going to be trivial to downgrade nautilus..
[05:06] <Tumlee> Erm... I should have probably mentioned that I'm running Ubuntu GNOME so these settings don't actually appear there
[05:06] <Tumlee> Or wait, let me check if they do if I unhide the top bar
[05:06] <Jordan_U> Cyris: Run what from the external HD?
[05:07] <Tumlee> I am the owner of both of the files in ~/.config/nautilus though
[05:07] <jmadero> anyone here upgrade to 13.04 and using gnome shell experiencing some crappy repercussions?
[05:07] <Cyris> Jordan_U: correct
[05:07] <Dr_willis> jmadero,  its working here fine last time i tried it.
[05:07] <thomas____> Tumlee what does the Nautilus look like if you maximize it?...surely then you see the menus across the top!
[05:08] <jmadero> Dr_willis: my buddy just upgraded and his system is completely borked:-/
[05:08] <jmadero> trying to help him out, I don't use Ubuntu so came here for guidance
[05:08] <Tumlee> Derp, I'm just dumb. Yup. The menus haven't been removed, just moved.
[05:08] <Cyris> Jordan_U:  oh way wrong reply... run ubuntu or mac
[05:08] <biggenius> ok
[05:08] <Dr_willis> have him make a new user. see if it works for the newly made user
[05:09] <jmadero> Dr_willis: gave him that advice already, that was even worse, just went to a blue screen, never loaded
[05:09] <Tumlee> I didn't know they were there because I installed an extension to hide the top bar before I ever even ran nautilus
[05:09] <jmadero> Dr_willis: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/196272-upgrading-13-04-borked-gnome-cairo-dock-session.html#post925840
[05:09] <jmadero> describes the issues
[05:10] <benno123> need help for pgp signature?
[05:10] <Jordan_U> Cyris: Yes, you can keep the Ubuntu Virtual Disk on an external drive and boot the Ubuntu VM from there.
[05:15] <Tumlee> Alright, one final question then: Is there any way to make nautilus open with the sidebar hidden? I never use it and it only takes up space for me.
[05:15] <savio> benno123 !details
[05:16] <benno123> savio:which details?
[05:17] <savio> benno123 u said u need help
[05:17] <betrayd>  !details | benno123
[05:18] <benno123> savio:yeah i said.i need help for pgp signature!!
[05:18] <DanaG> Say, I'm having trouble writing an upstart rule/job/scriot (whatever you call it)... if I try to start it, the 'start' command hangs forever, and nothing happens.  There isn't even a logged failure in syslog, and the log with the upstart job's name doesn't exist.
[05:18] <benno123> betrayd:need help for pgp signature?
[05:18] <benno123> savio:i have to add my own pgp signature for mail.ru? does possible?
[05:19] <nobit2> I'm trying to install oracle java on my ubuntu 13.04 server however it seems I don't have apt-add-repository or add-apt-repository command to add the repository suggested by the website.
[05:19] <mar> so I installed current nVidia drivers. Black is pitch black -  that's good. But windows don't have borders and unity taskbar doesn't show. Are there any settings I can play with, or is my only option to revert?
[05:19] <jmadero> so this is what my buddy is seeing for gnome cairo dock session on 13.04 https://plus.google.com/photos/114741461989471917798/albums/5739082733911197745/5872127792435518834?banner=pwa
[05:19] <jmadero> clearly messed up
[05:20] <nobit2> I also read that I had to install python-software-properties to get the command but it still didn't work
[05:22] <benno123> savio:got something for me?
[05:22] <Mayank> Hi, I have two server running Ubuntu, A that is accessible only within the institution. I have another server B in the same institution that can be accessed from outside and it can access the server A as well. Can  I run some service so that all HTTP traffic of A can be rendered outside using server B?
[05:22] <nobit2> nm finally found an answer, it is in software-properties-common
[05:23] <savio> benno123 wait
[05:23] <benno123> savio:ok!!
[05:24] <Jordan_U> Mayank: You can create an ssh tunnel, among other proxy options.
[05:24] <Mayank> Jordan_U: I want to access A from the web browser? Will it be possible?
[05:25] <b4dave_> Is anyone here using Ubuntu 13.04 with Gnome 3.8?
[05:25] <Jordan_U> Mayank: Yes, but I think you should be very careful with this, as there is probably a good reason why your institution has made this server only accesible internally.
[05:26] <Tumlee> b4dave_: It depends. What version does Ubuntu GNOME come with?
[05:27] <Mayank> Jordan_U: Nah, the only reason is they do not have a public IP for this server. So by creating a SSH tunnel from B to A all html/php files of A can be rendered on the web browser through B?
[05:27] <Tumlee> Er, nevermind. I have gnome 3.6
[05:29] <savio> benno123 try gnupgp
[05:31] <b4dave_> Tumlee I am using 3.8 and was wondering about stability issues. are you seeing any with 3.6?
[05:31] <benno123> savio:do i can set up this with my mail.ru account?
[05:32] <Tumlee> I am having no stability issues. I've had a few annoyances with many themes no longer being compatible with GNOME, but that's about it.
[05:32] <Tumlee> It's working smoothly and without any crashes or quirks
[05:35] <benno123> savio:it's not gnupgp it's gnuPG!!
[05:35] <quatamo> i like the new ubuntu
[05:35] <benno123> so do i!!!
[05:35] <quatamo> lol it's gnu privacy guard not gnu pretty good privacy
[05:36] <benno123> yeah!!!
[05:36] <benno123> someone suggested!!
[05:37] <benno123> quatamo:do you know anything about it?
[05:37] <benno123> The GNU Privacy Guard (GnuPG) is a free replacement for PGP. on GNU website!!
[05:38] <quatamo> benno123: Well, I know they're both asymmetric, i know how to generate keys, etc. So yeah I guess
[05:38] <benno123> quatamo:if you don't mind,can you share it, please!!
[05:39] <quatamo> gpg --gen-key then probably you want the default, DSA and ElGamal
[05:40] <quatamo> no smaller than 768 bits
[05:40] <b4dave_> Tumlee thank you. I am having a hell of a time with Samba. I don't know if its a problem with the new gnome release or Samba.
[05:40] <benno123> quatamo:actually i have to integrate it with my mail.ru email account.so does it possible?
[05:41] <Tumlee> Hehe, I have never used Samba before so I wouldn't be able to tell you.
[05:41] <quatamo> benno123: maybe...
[05:42] <benno123> quatamo:do you know how to???
[05:42] <daler> hi people, just yesterday installed ubuntu 13.03, and im totally new to nix at all
[05:42] <daler> how to install gnome 3.8 on ubuntu?
[05:44] <quatamo> benno123: I would instead encrypt messages on a seperate client then copy-paste etc. Even gmail doesn't have a nice integration... well, if you use Thunderbird it can do it for you
[05:44] <b4dave_> Tumlee its okay. :-)
[05:44] <quatamo> I mean thunderbird + enigmail
[05:45] <b4dave_> daler I just down loaded the gnomebuntu release
[05:46] <benno123> quatamo:ok,i should definitely consider it!!
[05:46] <daler> yeah b4dave, as i am new i didnt know that there is a relase already with gnome.. i just dont want to go all the way again
[05:46] <daler> anyway, i found an article, and doing something lets see
[05:47] <Tumlee> b4dave_: AFAIK Ubuntu GNOME only has version 3.6 anyway
[05:47] <silverex> Hey guys, what graphics card would you recommend for Ubuntu 13.04?
[05:47] <silverex> I need to get a new one
[05:48] <Tumlee> I recommend compatibility with VESA ;)
[05:48] <silverex> As I currently have an AMD HD4K card which doesn't have any compatible drivers for 13.04
[05:49] <daler> is that fine to do android development under linux? anyone have some experience?
[05:50] <daler> as with my windows i play a lot and want to turn to nix, as no game here)
[05:50] <Tumlee> daler: I've done a few simple Android apps under Linux, so I know it works. However, if you're planning on using AndEngine let me tell you, you're probably not going to do it.
[05:51] <daler> bad.. so what do you do in nix then?
[05:51] <Tumlee> What do you mean by that?
[05:51] <daler> bad question ) sorry.. how comes it doesnt work
[05:52] <daler> android is open source, androis open source
[05:52] <daler> unix*
[05:52] <Tumlee> I have no idea. All I can tell you is that trying to install AndEngine and get it to work properly doesn't work under Linux but I got it to work under Windows.
[05:52] <Tumlee> You can still do Android development, just not that one specific library
[05:52] <animosys1> hi
[05:53] <daler> corona? did you try it?
[05:53] <Tumlee> Unless they've fixed it since then, I don't know.
[05:53] <Tumlee> What on earth is corona?
[05:53] <daler> not a beer for sure)) let me give u link
[05:53] <daler> www.coronalabs.com/products/corona-sdk
[05:54] <Tumlee> Seems like a pretty neat SDK
[05:54] <daler> a little bit expensive if want to use java libraries
[05:54] <b4dave_> silverex I am using a old gforce 8400 its works great! and it uses open drivers and best of all its under 35.00$
[05:54] <daler> but very easy for game dev
[05:54] <Tumlee> Yeah, I've never tried it.  But when I boot into Awesome everything looks ugly (i.e. firefox). So I am wondering is it because of the Awesome theme or because of the GTK theme? Which should I look into?
[06:01] <somsip> friendoflinux: define 'ugly' AwesomeWM has no decoration at all as standard so it is very plain compared to pretty WMs
[06:02] <histo> friendoflinux: gtk theme
[06:03] <friendoflinux> somsip: so what i mean Firefox and Nautilus look very stale in Awesome WM and I was wondering what theme is causing that, GTK or will getting an awesome wm theme will fix the issue
[06:03] <MrDyne> Can you limit port access to domain subdomains? I want to limit the Minecraft server so that it can only be connected to through the subdomain. And the teamspeak server through another subdomain. Block direct IP requests.
[06:03] <friendoflinux> histo: so if i just change the WM theme Nautilus and Firefox will still look the same as they do now?
[06:03] <madprops> friendoflinux, probably gtk
[06:03] <madprops> friendoflinux, try lxappearance
[06:04] <somsip> friendoflinux: histo is recommending a gtk theme. as is madprops. I don't remember installing any gtk theme, but there you go
[06:04] <friendoflinux> madprops: isn't that the program that changes the theme in lxde?
[06:04] <histo> friendoflinux: yes but ti works well in other wm's
[06:05] <somsip> friendoflinux: I beg your pardon - I appear to have Raleigh installed
[06:06] <friendoflinux> histo, can you recommend me a good site for gtk themes?
[06:06] <histo> friendoflinux: gnome-look.org
[06:06] <friendoflinux> histo: Oh, I thought that was just for gnome, silly me :)
[06:07] <friendoflinux> hiso: do you happen to know if I change the theme for the WM if Nautilus and Firefox will still look the same as they do now?
[06:07] <histo> friendoflinux: Not if the theme is different
[06:07] <friendoflinux> histo: what do you mean by that?
[06:07] <histo> friendoflinux: the arch linux wiki may have some usefull information for you.
[06:08] <friendoflinux> histo: this? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Awesome
[06:08] <histo> friendoflinux: yes
[06:08] <friendoflinux> histo: awesome! thanks a lot mate!
[06:11] <histo> friendoflinux: http://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/Customizing_GTK_Apps  and this
[06:11] <btral> hi. i have a folder that contain multi folders too. how can i convert a dir to dir.tar.gz with gzip command?
[06:11] <theadmin> btral: You can't tar with gzip
[06:11] <theadmin> brad: tar czf dir.tar.gz dir
[06:12] <theadmin> Err
[06:12] <theadmin> btral: ^
[06:12] <theadmin> brad: Sorry, tab fail
[06:13] <btral> theadmin: oh. how ca i do it? i dont hav tar command
[06:13] <btral> theadmin: i want to convert dir to dir.tar.gz or dir.gz
[06:14] <theadmin> btral: Err, tar is part of the base Ubuntu installation so you should have that command.
[06:14] <theadmin> btral: If not, apt-get install tar
[06:14] <theadmin> btral: You can't gzip a directory though, GZip can only compress one file
[06:14] <theadmin> btral: (like a TAR archive ;))
[06:15] <btral> theadmin: ok. tnx
[06:16] <btral> theadmin: and how extract it to special folder?
[06:16] <theadmin> btral: tar xf something.tar.gz -C folder
[06:16] <theadmin> (note the uppercase C)
[06:17] <Blue11> i can;t seem to set a default browser in xubuntu / thunderbir
[06:17] <theadmin> Blue11: Open the settings thingy and there's "Default applications" in there, just use that
[06:17] <btral> theadmin: tar: This does not look like a tar archive
[06:17] <btral> tar: Skipping to next header
[06:17] <btral> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[06:18] <theadmin> btral: Hm, either this is a very old Ubuntu install or a strange version of tar, try tar xzf something.tar.gz then
[06:18] <Blue11> theadmin: i cant find the default applicatons settings in xubuntu
[06:18] <Blue11> theadmin: otherwise it would be easy
[06:18] <theadmin> Blue11: Applications menu -> Settings -> Settings Manager (or something) -> Default applications
[06:19] <theadmin> I can't remember what they called the control centre thing in Xfce
[06:19] <Blue11> theadmin: I am in xubuntu
[06:19] <friendoflinux> histo: Thanks again btw! one thing, how do I know if a program uses GTK or not? is it possible to find out?
[06:19] <theadmin> Blue11: Right, and Xubuntu uses Xfce as the desktop
[06:19] <Blue11> yes I am new to that.
[06:20] <theadmin> friendoflinux: Sure, ldd /path/to/app | grep gtk
[06:20] <histo> friendoflinux: possibly in the man pages for that application. Or look at it's dependencies
[06:20] <theadmin> (at least the most obvious way)
[06:20] <Blue11> i have applications/system tools/preferences/ and nothing else
[06:21] <Blue11> well no settings
[06:21] <friendoflinux> histo: So a program that is not using GTK should look the same whether im booting into unity or awesome wm regardless, correct? And the reason they look different now is because the GTK theme is different.
[06:21] <friendoflinux> theadmin: Thanks!
[06:22] <theadmin> Blue11: Run xfce4-settings in a terminal
[06:22] <histo> friendoflinux: The gtk theme selected is different yes. You need to read the awesome wiki
[06:22] <friendoflinux> histo: alright, thank you so so much man, much appreciated!
[06:23] <Blue11> theadmin: command not found
[06:23] <theadmin> Blue11: Err, are you sure you're on Xubuntu?...
[06:23] <Blue11> theadmin: yes
[06:23] <theadmin> Blue11: And are running the default desktop?
[06:24] <Blue11> theadmin: gnome-classic
[06:24] <theadmin> Blue11: Durr, well you should have said that right away -- it does things differently, run "gnome-control-center" instead
[06:24] <Blue11> theadmin: okay let me try that
[06:25] <Blue11> theadmin: yes, I have seen that before - no way to set default app.
[06:25] <theadmin> Blue11: Is under "Details", methinks
[06:25] <Blue11> okaya let me look
[06:26] <Blue11> there it is
[06:26] <Blue11> now let me test.
[06:27] <alexrecker> exit
[06:28] <termot> hi people
[06:28] <christopher> hello
[06:28] <termot> i have a none ubuntu problem
[06:29] <termot> where should i ask?
[06:29] <Blue11> theadmin: many thanks i will add that pkill-9.com
[06:29] <betrayd> termot: what distro
[06:30] <betrayd> termot: or is it windows
[06:30] <ccbn> I'm using 12.04 64 bit with a soundcard that uses the oxygen driver. When using any application with sound, the output will stop for a second and then continue, it happens randomly.
[06:30] <termot> betrayd: none. i want to install cloudsim on ubuntu
[06:30] <termot> imy problem is in registration
[06:30] <termot> it's odd but
[06:31] <theadmin> Woah, Remastersys is dead :/ Suddenly. This is sad
[06:31] <termot> in registration it doesn't incloud my country
[06:31] <termot> betrayd: in one step it catch phone number to call and say certification code
[06:32] <termot> betrayd: cause it doesn't incloud my country i can't give phone number
[06:32] <betrayd> termot: time to go to 'contact us' at the bottom of the page
[06:32] <betrayd> not us here, but them, there
[06:33] <betrayd> try also a different browser
[06:33] <termot> betrayd: it's amazone web service
[06:33] <betrayd> see if the have contacts page
[06:33] <betrayd> they*
[06:34] <termot> does amazon web service have irc?
[06:35] <betrayd> call their 800 number
[06:35] <termot> what is 800 number
[06:35] <btral> oh sorry. i have a zip file in windows. i uploaded it to linux. how extract it?
[06:35] <betrayd> termot: listen, go to 'contact us' page
[06:36] <betrayd> we will not fo it for you this is ubuntu support
[06:36] <termot> betrayd: do you know any irc room for that?
[06:36] <betrayd> contact us page will have that info
[06:38] <helmut_> hi
[06:38] <betrayd> hey helmut_
[06:45] <Liam-> has anyone here dealt with 6to4 tunneling with a tunnel broker?
[06:45] <Liam-> i'm trying to set up a he.net tunnelbroker, and i'm running under OpenVZ
[06:46] <Liam-> can't seem to get it to bind :s
[06:56] <NanChen> join #in-move "!Cr0wB4R"
[06:58] <kai> hi folks. I've installed 13.04 last weekend, and it seems like suddenly my thinkpad has problems with overheating that weren't present on the 10.04 install I had on it before
[07:01] <cheshair> Hi! After upgrading to 13.04 all my python venvs seem to be broken. When I start any python script within one of them I get this "ImportError: cannot import name MAXREPEAT" error. Any tips?
[07:02] <cheshair> I think that can be solved by recreating the venv, but that would be painful here and would consider it as my last option. Any other option for me?
[07:09] <Desarrolla> buenas aber me instalado ubuntu pero no lo tengo todo en español alquien me puede decir donde esta la traduccion
[07:09] <theadmin> !es | Desarrolla
[07:09] <Desarrolla> ok
[07:10] <kowa> i: Join to #xorg was synced in 8 secs
[07:10] <kowa> 09:57:20 < kowa> Hello, I have problem with ubuntu. on boot I get a message "running in low graphics" and then I end up in command line. I install Ubuntu 13.04 with "nomodeset" and I install all right drivers (in command line). I have tried many differnt "manuals" to install them properly, but still, I have never got to the actual graphic os.
[07:10] <kowa> I have macbook pro early 2011 (8.2) with ATI / Intel switchable gpu:s and I have high res (1680x1+1050) monitor
[07:10] <theadmin> kowa: Are you installing the 64-bit version?
[07:10] <kowa> 64 bit
[07:10] <kowa> some ofthe errors are "screens found but none are configured" and "fatal error: no screens found"
[07:11] <kowa> after driver installations I have done aticonfig etc, but when I do fglrxinfo it does not find any devices
[07:11] <theadmin> kowa: Hmmms. I think Ubuntu provides a separate image for macs
[07:11] <theadmin> kowa: http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso - try this
[07:11] <ggherdov> Hi all, getting this while trying the upgrade 12.10 --> 13.04 http://bpaste.net/show/ma5h6BlmF5piP2Hyh7YN/ . what's happening ? (xpost to #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-motu)
[07:12] <kowa> hmm
[07:12] <kowa> thats new
[07:12] <kowa> with that mac in the end
[07:12] <kowa> you want to hear my whole "troubleshoot" ?
[07:13] <kowa> or should I just try that and if not work, then we'll see?
[07:13] <theadmin> kowa: I guess trying is the best option
[07:13] <kowa> yea
[07:13] <kowa> have been trying many thigs in these 4-5 days now :D
[07:13] <kowa> but I have not even seen that mac image
[07:14] <kowa> just the regular linux 64bit
[07:14] <kowa> *ubuntu
[07:14] <theadmin> kowa: It's hidden in a somewhat strange place, I can't find a direct link to it on Ubuntu's download page either
[07:15] <kowa> ahh
[07:15] <kowa> strange
[07:15] <kowa> if this works then I'm a happy camper
[07:20] <iliketocode> Hi all just wondering how to get the spell checker working in LibreOffice, this is in 13.04 but I have had this issues so many times over the years I have lost count
[07:21] <iliketocode> I Open Office there were two ways that I learned to fix it but they don't seem to apply anymore to the current version of LO
[07:21] <theadmin> iliketocode: Go to System Settings -> Language Support and install any languages necessary. If the language you want is already installed, then it may say something like "Language support incomplete". Install the missing packages.
[07:21] <battlehands> how to run an echo $XTRA_PARAMS on a build.sh file?
[07:22] <pratz> Hello guys
[07:22] <pratz> I followed this post http://askubuntu.com/questions/252612/how-do-i-install-libreoffice-4
[07:23] <iliketocode> Thanks for the reply theadmin but it just sends me  the Libre Office web site to search for a language extension and there is none for my language
[07:23] <theadmin> iliketocode: No, System Settings in Ubuntu.
[07:24] <theadmin> iliketocode: And if there's none for your language then it likely won't be available in Ubuntu either, though
[07:24] <pratz> so, i removed LO-3 first and then tried to install LO-4, but now I am getting this error http://dpaste.org/jT4iM/
[07:24] <iliketocode> Oh, integrated supper cool
[07:24] <iliketocode> My language is English but Australian English
[07:25] <pratz> output of 'sudo apt-get install libreoffice'  - http://dpaste.org/YiXm8/
[07:26] <iliketocode> Ubuntu is talking to me "Language support is not installed completely" There you go
[07:26] <theadmin> iliketocode: Just set it to US English and add "mate" to the dictionary, then?
[07:26] <iliketocode> lol
[07:26] <MikeH> If during a do-release-upgrade the installer wants to reboot, what do I do after the reboot?
[07:26] <iliketocode> I actually don't use the word
[07:26] <pratz> Now i do not have LO-3 and even I can not install LO-4
[07:26] <iliketocode> I used to
[07:26] <MikeH> Do I need to run do-release-upgrade again? or is it done?
[07:27] <theadmin> MikeH: No, a release upgrade takes place all in one session, after the reboot it's done
[07:28] <MikeH> theadmin: Brilliant. I was just curious since the SSH MOTD still mentions a new release available.
[07:28] <MikeH> although /etc/lsb-release does show the new version
[07:28] <theadmin> MikeH: Oh, that's odd now
[07:28] <Yotis> Ubuntu 13.04 + Nvidia 8400GS = Problems; I did try the stock kernel with proprietary drivers (black screen stuck) or nouveau (cannot change screen resolution); Also the same drivers with kernel mainline builds, still no success; Any other suggestion for me? Thanks!
[07:28] <MikeH> I wondered if I was stuck half-way
[07:28] <theadmin> MikeH: Well, a broken upgrade can be fixed (in theory) with: sudo dpkg --configure -a ; sudo apt-get -f install ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:29] <theadmin> MikeH: In case it is broken
[07:29] <theadmin> MikeH: I dunno though
[07:29] <iliketocode> Now my logic begs the question. Why doesn't the LibreOffice writing aid section link to the Ubuntu Language settings panel?
[07:29] <MikeH> I just tried a dist-upgrade, nothing to do, so I guess it's complete.y
[07:30] <pratz> any help on this guys http://dpaste.org/YiXm8/
[07:30] <theadmin> iliketocode: Well, Ubuntu tries not to modify software in weird ways if possible.
[07:30] <jsds> hello does 12.04 come with /usr/bin/expect installed by default?
[07:30] <theadmin> jsds: Nay, it's in the "expect" package.
[07:30] <iliketocode> I believe this would enable a more pleasurable user experience
[07:30] <jsds> theadmin: thank you
[07:31] <MikeH> Hmmm, that's one thing. The do-release-upgrade told me it disabled some third party repositories and told me how to re-enable them. I can't see anything in sources.list but don't remember what these repositories were either.
[07:32] <theadmin> MikeH: Check /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list as well.
[07:33] <iliketocode> theadmin, you call directing someone from were they think they need to set the spell checker language of there word processor to the actual spot where they need to go in order to actually get there spell checker working?
[07:34] <jsmith433> Hi. How do I move the close/maximize/minimize buttons to the right of the window? Tutorials for past versions mention a metacity folder in gconf, but the folder is not there in 13.04.
[07:34] <iliketocode> Now leaving a user at the dead end of an unintuitive situation, that I find weird.
[07:35] <mar> hi. Can please tell me what Java I need to install to allow nVidia to check my card. http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Scan.aspx?lang=en-us
[07:35] <ankitkul1890> #mercurial
[07:36] <theadmin> jsmith433: It's likely not possible (or at least not a good idea) due to the way Unity works -- the top panel merges with the window titlebar upon maximisation, and on the right there is the tray
[07:36] <mar> or how can I find out the card serial without breaking open laptop?
[07:36] <theadmin> jsmith433: This would effectively render the buttons invisible
[07:38] <jsmith433> theadmin: Okay, thanks. I guess I'll be installing another DE, then.
[07:38] <theadmin> mar: Don't use the wobsite, use the additional drivers tool (System Settings -> Additional Drivers on 12.04, System Settings -> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers on 12.10 and up)
[07:38] <theadmin> jsmith433: Xfce feels a lot like the "classic", pre-Unity Ubuntu.
[07:39] <mar> theadmin, 'additional drivers' doesn't work with 13.04 - see the only review
[07:39] <mar> theadmin, I just need to find out the card number so I know which driver to install myself
[07:39] <jsmith433> theadmin: I'll try that. Thanks.
[07:39] <theadmin> mar: That's because the one in the Software Center, Jockey, is no longer really used by Ubuntu, they merged it with another tool.
[07:39] <theadmin> mar: You can find out what card you have with, say, lspci | grep -i vga
[07:40] <mar> thadmin, thanks!
[07:41] <juanolalla>  /msg NickServ identify kvbtq+8K!jsd
[07:42] <theadmin> juanolalla: You're supposed to do it in the server window, change your password nao.
[07:42] <mar> theadmin, I'm just going to try nvidia-310 'cause current (304) doesn't work. Seem reasonable?
[07:43] <theadmin> mar: Well, don't blame me if it breaks. I dunno. I'm with the open-source drivers myself.
[07:43] <mar> theadmin, you suggest I just stick to the drivers that come with the 13.04 iso?
[07:43] <theadmin> mar: 'tis what I did
[07:43] <rndio> hello, is there a pdf viewer without horrid 400% zoom limitation in ubuntu?
[07:43] <theadmin> I mean, they work so why not
[07:43] <mar> damn
[07:44] <rndio> I think I just tried them all :/
[07:44] <mar> ok, i try 310 first though. Just in case it does want to work. No harm in trying.
[07:44] <theadmin> rndio: If anything, Adobe Reader has a Linux version, see their site.
[07:44] <theadmin> rndio: If that has the limitation, then... Then I dunno.
[07:45] <rndio> theadmin, well I would rather stay away from that proprietary mess. but looks like it's my only option. thanks.
[07:46] <theadmin> rndio: Well, I dunno. I never had to zoom in THAT much.
[07:47] <rndio> theadmin, schematics pdf. and hey pdf is a vector format - zooming can be unlimited by design.
[07:50] <theadmin> rndio: I suppose but... hamsters.
[07:53] <themill> rndio: xournal can zoom in to 1500%.
[07:54] <themill> rndio: and inkscape seems to have no limits on zoom at all. It may, however, eat your PDFs on import.
[07:54] <theadmin> lol
[07:55] <rndio> it's ok I'll feed it a copy :)
[07:55] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[07:55] <Wiz_KeeD> how do i ask the bot for links regarding lamp installation on ubuntu?
[07:55] <theadmin> !lamp > Wiz_KeeD
[07:55] <Wiz_KeeD> thank you theadmin !
[07:55] <bazhang> Wiz_KeeD, /msg ubottu termhere
[07:56] <Wiz_KeeD> with taskel adn manual configuration
[07:56] <Wiz_KeeD> i remember being an easier way
[07:57] <Wiz_KeeD> sudo apt-get  install lamp-server^ phpmyadmin
[07:59] <sunny_> hi people
[08:00] <sunny_> whats up
[08:03] <rusman> hi
[08:04] <rusman> i need edit mimi types associations
[08:04] <bazhang> rusman, MIME?
[08:04] <rusman> bazhang yes
[08:04] <rusman> bazhang where is mime types config file?
[08:05] <theadmin> rusman: /etc/mime.types
[08:05] <bazhang> rusman, for which application, what exactly are you trying to accomplish, please be clear
[08:06] <rusman> bazhang i installed Geany and it takes 100 association of all known doc-types
[08:07] <rusman> i want take it back
[08:08] <rusman> theadmin thanks for reply, but there is no applications in /etc/mime.types
[08:08] <theadmin> rusman: Remove the MimeType= line from /usr/share/applications/geany.desktop then, I suppose.
[08:08] <theadmin> rusman: Or modify it appropriately.
[08:09] <sunny_> @admin, i was doing this FTP in my laptop in networking lab in my school. and i ended up making a directory in home folder with permission root
[08:09] <sunny_> and then on reboot, it said "could not update .ICEauthority"
[08:10] <Wiz_KeeD> i've installed lamp on ubuntu 12.04 (vritual machine) with sudo apt-get  install lamp-server^ phpmyadmin and when i access the ip of the server it shows nothing
[08:10] <Wiz_KeeD> :(
[08:10] <rusman> theadmin thank you this is cool idea!!
[08:10] <sunny_> is the .ICEauthority affected by any root dir in the home folder?
[08:10] <Wiz_KeeD> error log has only [Mon Apr 29 09:57:51 2013] [notice] Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.3.10-1ubuntu3.6 with Suhosin-Patch configured -- resuming normal operations
[08:10] <Wiz_KeeD> halp? :(
[08:11] <mregg964> Hi all. I'm new to Raring, coming from Lucid -- you can imagine the change for me. Getting my way around, but can anyone recommend a good Gmail notification system that integrates well with Unity?
[08:11] <theadmin> mregg964: System Settings -> Online Accounts -> GMail, methinks.
[08:11] <bazhang> mregg964, apt-cache search gmail
[08:11] <theadmin> mregg964: I can't remember if that was there, I removed half of what's responsible for providing those services
[08:11] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone pls?
[08:12] <bazhang> !helpme | Wiz_KeeD
[08:12] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, lots of network heads in #ubuntu-server
[08:13] <Wiz_KeeD> thanks cfhowlett
[08:13] <sunny_> @theadmin: I asked something about .ICEauthority
[08:13] <theadmin> sunny_: I know, what does that have to do with me? I don't know the answer, I don't answer. Ask the channel.
[08:13] <sunny_> ok ok calm down. I thought you're the admin and you might be knowing that
[08:14] <theadmin> sunny_: Heh, I can see why you'd think that :P But even the channel operators don't know everything (most of them are not Ubuntu developers). I, however, am not even an operator. No offense taken though.
[08:15] <sunny_> Oh I see. thanks anyways :)
[08:16] <cfhowlett> theadmin, well, you DO have that admin aura about you ...
[08:17] <Wiz_KeeD> cfhowlett, nobody is talking there :))
[08:17] <Shogoot> Good morning geeks! :D
[08:17] <Wiz_KeeD> strange how it does nothing, no errors nothing
[08:18] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: what is it actually showing? blank page?
[08:18] <liujingwei> #ubuntu-cn
[08:18] <Wiz_KeeD> somsip, doesn't even load
[08:18] <somsip> !zh | liujingwei
[08:19] <Wiz_KeeD> i get the "oops, cannnot connect to page" thing
[08:19]  * sunny_ is a roasted one
[08:19] <Wiz_KeeD> i even restarted the server
[08:19] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: is apache running? You are talking about connecting to http://localhost aren't you?
[08:19] <Wiz_KeeD> not localhost, it's a remote server on a vritual box
[08:20] <Wiz_KeeD> and trying to connect to it's ip on port 80 (the default one the browser uses)
[08:20] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: so you are running a browser on your client and the server on VM?
[08:20] <Wiz_KeeD> exactly
[08:20] <Wiz_KeeD> i have a erp system in stalled that has a wsgi on port 8069
[08:20] <Wiz_KeeD> and that works fine from here
[08:20] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: ifconfig on server to make sure the IP is on your network. If it's not, restart the server using a different network type (bridged, NAT, etc)
[08:21] <Wiz_KeeD> hmm
[08:21] <Wiz_KeeD> how come the ip:8069 loads the web interface for the erp system?
[08:21] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: clearly there was a lag on the last exchange
[08:21] <Wiz_KeeD> ah
[08:22] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: I don't know the lamp package, but maybe you should make sure a default site is setup. Maybe wget http://localhost on the server to make sure it's is actually serving
[08:23] <Wiz_KeeD> it works, it downloaded it
[08:23] <Wiz_KeeD> nice ideea, i'll keep it in mind :))
[08:23] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: so you got a 'It worked' HTMl page?
[08:23] <Wiz_KeeD> yes
[08:23] <Wiz_KeeD> i checked it with vim
[08:24] <Wiz_KeeD> i'm stuck on this crap
[08:25] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: might stil be worth checking /etc/apache2/sites-available/default to make sure it's not got a problem, like an expected ServerName or something unexpected
[08:25] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:26] <Wiz_KeeD> idk what to look for in there somsip
[08:26] <ThatOneRoadie> Hey Wiz, what do you need this server for?
[08:26] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: check that file and pastebin it if you want to share it
[08:26] <somsip> !pastebin | Wiz_KeeD
[08:26] <Wiz_KeeD> i know pastebin np
[08:27] <ThatOneRoadie> because if this is srtictly a LAMP server, I have a debian (Yeah, not ubuntu, bite me) vmdk you can use
[08:27] <ThatOneRoadie> really low overhead, too. i think the entire image is <200mb
[08:28] <ThatOneRoadie> we use these images on our servers. Load standard image, spin everything up, already ready to go. Save as host- or site-specific VM, re-spin when needed
[08:28] <ThatOneRoadie> 205MB
[08:28] <Wiz_KeeD> how do i copy all in vim somsip ? :))
[08:29] <Wiz_KeeD> ah nvm
[08:29] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: ggVG...oh ok
[08:29] <theadmin> Wiz_KeeD: ggVG"+p
[08:29] <theadmin> Err
[08:29] <ThatOneRoadie> I always though it was gg"*yG
[08:29] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/7736641
[08:29] <theadmin> ggVG"+y
[08:29] <somsip> theadmin: that's what I was aimin gat
[08:30] <Wiz_KeeD> also when i try to restart the server it says apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[08:30] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: no biggie - just haven'
[08:30] <somsip> 't got hostname setup
[08:30] <ThatOneRoadie> Wiz_KeeD: That's a standard error, it just means your server's hostname doesn't match your domain name
[08:30] <ThatOneRoadie> However, check that your index.html file is in /var/www
[08:30] <Wiz_KeeD> what domain in this case? it's just a random ip address
[08:30] <Wiz_KeeD> yes it is ThatOneRoadie
[08:30] <Wiz_KeeD> that's why wget localhost worked
[08:31] <Wiz_KeeD> what's the next step here?
[08:31] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: Not knowing lamp server package, I'm suggesting you check the default site config to make sure it's not weird
[08:31] <Wiz_KeeD> check for this error or...
[08:31] <Wiz_KeeD> it worked on other servers with no problem :(
[08:31] <ThatOneRoadie> Line 13, capitalize "allow from all" to "Allow from all"
[08:31] <Wiz_KeeD> i've done this before
[08:31] <ThatOneRoadie> see if that does it
[08:32] <Wiz_KeeD> hmm, ok
[08:32] <ThatOneRoadie> then restart and try again
[08:32] <ThatOneRoadie> i think it's implicit allow from all though on *:80
[08:33] <Wiz_KeeD> hmm that error is not comming up anymore but still doesn't work
[08:33] <Wiz_KeeD> Jesus this is so frustrating
[08:34] <ThatOneRoadie> little bugs are - you would not believe what a nightmare SAN Booting WITHOUT using a DHCP Server to boot is.
[08:34] <ThatOneRoadie> anything in /var/log/apache?
[08:34] <ThatOneRoadie> or wherever it logs
[08:34] <Wiz_KeeD> just what i pasted at the beginning
[08:35] <Wiz_KeeD> [Mon Apr 29 10:27:00 2013] [notice] Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.3.10-1ubuntu3.6 with Suhosin-Patch configured -- resuming normal operations
[08:35] <Wiz_KeeD> in error
[08:35] <ThatOneRoadie> ifconfig shows as being in your LAN?
[08:36] <Wiz_KeeD> the ip i'm accessing the server starts with 213. and eth0 of ifconfig is inet addr:172.*
[08:36] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: what http:.. are you actually using to connect?
[08:36] <Wiz_KeeD> the 213.
[08:36] <Wiz_KeeD> ip
[08:36] <ThatOneRoadie> yeah, your VM is probably in bridged mode
[08:36] <ThatOneRoadie> er
[08:36] <ThatOneRoadie> NAT mode
[08:37] <ThatOneRoadie> needs to be in bridged mode.
[08:37] <somsip> Wiz_KeeD: which is something I emntioned a while back...
[08:37] <ThatOneRoadie> VMWare or VirtualBox?
[08:37] <Wiz_KeeD> i'm not denying it!:D
[08:37] <Wiz_KeeD> VMWare ESXI
[08:38] <Wiz_KeeD> waiit wait waiit
[08:38] <Wiz_KeeD> oh jesus...
[08:38] <Amnuriak> Still need help on the my graphics driver issue .. I'm lost :-/ (see http://askubuntu.com/unanswered/tagged/?page=2&tab=votes for details)
[08:38] <Wiz_KeeD> I think the firewall is blocking the port :\
[08:38] <ThatOneRoadie> oh, that's an easy check
[08:39] <ThatOneRoadie> [ sudo iptables -L ] and pastebin that sucker
[08:39] <sai_kumar> Hi All, i've installed Ubuntu 13.04 with Windows XP on dual boot. After installation from CD and restart, the Grub did not show up. Ubuntu directly got loaded. Is this a known issue ?
[08:39] <pratz> guys when I try to install any update i get this error http://dpaste.org/wqMI1/
[08:39] <Wiz_KeeD> that sucker haha :))
[08:39] <pratz> please help on this, I am using 12.04
[08:39] <ThatOneRoadie> lol wiz
[08:40] <Wiz_KeeD> i got very little information back
[08:40] <somsip> pratz: did you apt-get update first?
[08:40] <sai_kumar> i had to use Boot Repair tool to fix grub entries....
[08:40] <ThatOneRoadie> pratz: edit /etc/resolv.conf in your favorite editor, add: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:40] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/7736678
[08:41] <pratz> somsip: yes, I am not getting any error when doing 'sudo apt-get update'
[08:41] <ThatOneRoadie> wait, ubuntu uses ufw, not iptables. I'm a dumbarse XD
[08:42] <ThatOneRoadie> Wiz_KeeD: [ sudo ufw status verbose
[08:42] <ThatOneRoadie>  [
[08:42] <somsip> pratz: this might help http://www.ubuntulinuxhelp.com/quick-fix-for-the-size-mismatch-when-updating-ubuntu-linux/
[08:42] <soulflare3> sai_kumar, Did Boot Repair resolve the issue or is there still an issue?
[08:42] <Wiz_KeeD> ThatOneRoadie, i think the mistery is solved
[08:42] <Wiz_KeeD> the admin just told me only 4 ports are open
[08:42] <ThatOneRoadie> XD
[08:42] <Wiz_KeeD> ftp ssh my wsgi one and something else
[08:43] <sai_kumar> soulflare3 : it did resolve the issue.
[08:43] <ThatOneRoadie> Tell him open 80 XD
[08:43] <pratz> ThatOneRoadie: same error output after added 'nameserver 8.8.8..8' in /etc/resolv.conf
[08:43] <Wiz_KeeD> There goes 10-15 minutes of our lives we will never get back :(
[08:43] <ThatOneRoadie> or do a [ sudo ufw allow 80 ]
[08:43] <Wiz_KeeD> what does that do?
[08:43] <ThatOneRoadie> opens 80 on the firewall
[08:43] <ThatOneRoadie> 80 being http
[08:43] <Wiz_KeeD> it's blocked from an outer layer i think
[08:43] <Wiz_KeeD> not on the os
[08:44] <ThatOneRoadie> pratz: <IP_ADDRESS> right?
[08:44] <soulflare3> sai_kumar, If it ever happens again, try that tool. I have used it many times in the past and it's helped out tremendously (espeically when you update Windows or Ubuntu and the other doesn't show up)
[08:44] <somsip> pratz: you put '8..8' instead of '8.8' if you want to go with that fix
[08:44] <pratz> ThatOneRoadie: yes, that google dns , correct
[08:44] <pratz> somsip: that was just a typo
[08:44] <ThatOneRoadie> as long as you put <IP_ADDRESS> and not 8.8.8..8 :)
[08:44] <soulflare3> lol
[08:44] <juniour> hi ubuntu xx.xx
[08:45] <somsip> pratz: try apt-get clean && apt-get update
[08:45] <soulflare3> hi juniour
[08:45] <nitin__> hii
[08:46] <sai_kumar> soulflare3 : i never had issues with older versions. This is first time, just wondering if this is a known issue for 13.04
[08:46] <nitin__> i wanted to depoly a django application on LAN ... how can i use my PC to deploy the application
[08:46] <sw> Hi, trying to connect to a server running VNC Server via VNC Viewer but getting the error 'VNC Server has no security types configured. Please check VNC Server configuration and try again.'. What's this mean?
[08:46] <ThatOneRoadie> pratz: and if that fails, [ sudo apt-get -f install ]
[08:47] <pratz> somsip: tried same error
[08:47] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:47] <sai_kumar> cristian_c : Hi !
[08:47] <usr13_>  sw:  What kind of server is it?
[08:47] <soulflare3> sai_kumar, I've seen a few people ask about it, not sure if it's a hugely common issue. I have had that issue in the past (upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10, and then to 12.04 and 12.10) - Sometimes it just happens, and that's why that tool exists :)
[08:47] <somsip> pratz: remind me - what version?
[08:48] <pratz> ThatOneRoadie: tried that same error
[08:48] <cristian_c> there is a mysterious problem with my laptop. I mean, when I run the suspension, after the restore there are problems. The first of which is that the Chromium browser will no longer open (but it also does with Chrome) and if you launch it from the terminal, an error is returned
[08:48] <sw> usr13_, What do you mean what kind?
[08:48] <pratz> somsip: 12.04
[08:48] <usr13_> OS
[08:48] <nobit2> I installed Xen using the recommended procedure on Ubuntu's site using motherboard Supermicro X7SBL-LN2 and Ubuntu 13.04.  After the installing it and rebooting my console looks like this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRHKgZ3d8r4  I've had this happen also with CentOS 6 as well.  Everything on the server works fine but the console is unusable.  If I switch back to the stock kernel it goes back to normal and I can use the console again but then I can't u
[08:48] <nobit2> se Xen.
[08:48] <FloodBot1> nobit2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:48] <cristian_c> also, when I try to logout or reboot the pc freezes, meaning that when I try to restart, the screen goes black and hangs there indefinitely (in the case of the log, it appears the shell with the messages, but it hangs too) and I have to brutally shut down the pc
[08:49] <sw> usr13_, Ubuntu?
[08:49] <somsip> !fixapt | pratz
[08:49] <cristian_c> I tried several solutions, from uswsusp to tuxonice, to create a special file in /etc/pm/config.d/, but these attempts have not been successful. I also checked the syslog, but also did not provide significant information about the origin of the problem
[08:49] <somsip> pratz: maybe not - I was thinking that would say something else
[08:49] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:49] <somsip> pratz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/146362/getting-error-on-downloading-updates
[08:49] <Wiz_KeeD> ThatOneRoadie, now he said he opened up port 80 still nothing happens and nothing in the access log
[08:49] <usr13_>  sw Is that a question or an answer?
[08:49] <sw> usr13_, We're in #ubuntu so obviously it's Ubuntu.
[08:50] <juniour> cristiana_c which one freezes shutdown or restart ??
[08:50] <ThatOneRoadie> Wiz_KeeD: [ sudo ufw status verbose ]
[08:50] <usr13_> sw: Is it tightvncserver that is running on a Ubuntu system?  Is it Ubuntu 12.04?
[08:51] <cristian_c> juniour, restart and logout
[08:51] <cristian_c> juniour, shutdown is regular
[08:51] <pratz> somsip: are you sure I have to use 'sudo apt-get upgrade' ?
[08:52] <ThatOneRoadie> pratz: There is a difference between update and upgrade
[08:52] <somsip> pratz: depends if you want to use apt-get to upgrade all packages as superuser or not
[08:52] <sai_kumar> soulflare3 : That tool saved me ! Thanks for your comments ! :)
[08:52] <pratz> somsip: ThatOneRoadie I do not want anything to be upgraded
[08:52] <Wiz_KeeD> Status: inactive
[08:52] <Wiz_KeeD> :)
[08:52] <ThatOneRoadie> hmm, no firewall then
[08:52] <soulflare3> sai_kumar, np, glad it's fixed :)
[08:52] <somsip> pratz: so update and install the package you're trying to install
[08:53] <usr13_> sw: Did you set password when you ran tightvncserver?
[08:53] <ThatOneRoadie> by chance, is the virtual machine's IP address 172.16.*.*?
[08:53] <Lachezar> Hey all...
[08:53] <ThatOneRoadie> or anything between .16.* and .32.*
[08:53] <usr13_> sw: If you intend to not use password, switch to x11vnc
[08:54] <Lachezar> My laptop has Java 6 and 7 installed, with 7 being preferred. However my colleague's laptop has somehow Java 6 preferred. How come, and how to fix that?
[08:54] <ThatOneRoadie> !path | Lachezar
[08:54] <ponsfrilus> Hi all. I wonder what are the apps behind the screenshot here: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/features/more-apps
[08:54] <Mayank> Hi, I have two servers, both running Ubuntu 12.01. Server B is behind a firewall and cannot be accessed outside the institution. If I need to scp to Server B it has to be through Server A. It makes it very difficult to upload files. Is there any way I could handle this? Tunneling sftp traffic? But how? Any leads?
[08:54] <cfhowlett> !norwegian
[08:54] <Wiz_KeeD> 56 ThatOneRoadie
[08:55] <Lachezar> ThatOneRoadie: Nothing to do with the Path, more to do with the 'Alternatives' infrastructure (somehow it has lower preference on the newer Java).
[08:55] <Wiz_KeeD> <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:55] <pratz> somsip: ThatOneRoadie tried that but the same error again
[08:55] <ThatOneRoadie> Wiz_KeeD: 172.16.anything.anything is a private network, and needs to be port forwarded. do you have GUI on this VM or is it all CLI?
[08:56] <cristian_c> juniour, any ideas?
[08:56] <Wiz_KeeD> I still need to see what the admin is doing before proceeding
[08:56] <usr13_> Mayank: What makes you think http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/features/more-apps is a screenshot?
[08:57] <somsip> pratz: sorry, I'm out