[06:13] <sencha> dr_willis, apparently it's a known bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/983048
[06:14] <asilhouette> dr_willis: anything i can do for the software center to work??
[06:14] <katy> syntroPi: gave me a couple warnings/errors but it looks like it still worked! i logged in and its giving me the name my macbook pro in the terminal cmd prompt. FYI this time it didnt freeze on the purple screen. this time the logo did shouw then it when black like before.
[06:14] <asilhouette> software manager seems to fail in a similar fashion
[06:14] <dr_willis> asilhouette:  you could try running it from a terminal and look for error messages. perhaps reset its config filee in your home.. but i never use the thing.   I tend to use ther terminal or synaptic to install stuff
[06:15] <mao> ?
[06:15] <syntroPi> katy, ok so you are in your macbook wich did a normal boot but has black screen now? look at "dmesg | less" and "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less" then
[06:16] <asilhouette> i get an DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply
[06:17] <asilhouette> anyone know what it is
[06:17] <syntroPi> katy, now you can provide us with "find /sys -name '*gmux*' 2> /dev/null | pastebinit"  and "lsmod | pastebinit" ?
[06:18] <syntroPi> katy, and those ssh warings are normal for a first connect to a yet unknown box
[06:18] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635536/
[06:19] <syntroPi> uum that seems truncated somhow
[06:19] <vortex> hi rosha
[06:20] <syntroPi> katy, how did you produce that paste?
[06:20] <katy> how do i give you everything. like i can only copy as much as can fit in one window. know what i mean
[06:21] <syntroPi> !pastebinit | katy
[06:21] <katy> like i can only select as much as can fit on my screen at one time. when i scroll it deselects everything i had selected
[06:21] <nubcake_> write it into a file by using  command > filename (is what i'd do)
[06:21] <syntroPi> katy, "dmesg | pastebinit"
[06:23] <syntroPi> katy, and that scrolling comes from less to be able to read it all. otherwise your terminal would overflow
[06:23] <syntroPi> *could*
[06:23] <katy> ok so run "dmesg | less" and then before i do ":q" i type "!patebinit | katy"
[06:24] <syntroPi> katy quit yes and then "dmesg | pastebinit"
[06:24] <syntroPi> that "!" are irc bot cmds
[06:25] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635564/
[06:28] <syntroPi> katy, ok there is someting crashing with your nvidia module
[06:28] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635572/
[06:28] <syntroPi> katy, how about a "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit"
[06:28] <l057c0d3r> hmm..  strainge ok i have noticed when trying to map key's on three diffent emulators that when i do not have my gamepad plug in joy04 is being sent non stop
[06:29] <l057c0d3r> and when i do have it plugged in joy11 is being sent non stop..  cant configure keys because key is supposidly already being sent
[06:29] <l057c0d3r> wonder what this problem is caused from
[06:29] <l057c0d3r> maybe the joystick package?
[06:30] <l057c0d3r> or maybe i should switch over to a diffent imput method>
[06:30] <l057c0d3r> sigh
[06:30] <l057c0d3r> i don't even konw where to start to see what is sending the key
[06:31] <syntroPi> katy, the last one looks "fine" so far... but im concerned about that lines of dmesg starting with timecode 29.059109 around line 3000 or so
[06:32] <Oakenhold> System Information: Model: iMac13,2 • CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 (4 Cores) @ 3.20 GHz • L2: 262.14 KB • L3: 6.29 MB • Memory: 32.00 GB • Uptime: 22 Hours • Disk Space: Total: 3.11 TB; Free: 2.30 TB • Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 4000, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675MX • Screen Resolution: 2560 x 1440 • Load: 27% • OS: Mac OS X 10.8.2 (Mountain Lion) (Build 12C2037)
[06:32] <spyzer> hey everyone i am using ubuntu 12.04 on a pandaboard es. Running glx gears result in 19 FPS. the later version 12.10 has a bug with pandaboard hardware acceleration driver and just with sofwtare rendering glxgears result sin 40 FPS. Why is this huge difference there
[06:32] <spyzer> ?
[06:32] <katy> syntroPi: ok i'm there
[06:32] <syntroPi> katy, seems Xorg crashed with nvidia for some reason "[   29.059109] Pid: 1184, comm: Xorg Tainted: P           O 3.5.0-23-generic #35-Ubuntu Apple Inc. MacBookPro6,2/Mac-F22586C8"
[06:33] <syntroPi> then lightdm "[   32.006105] init: lightdm main process (1151) terminated with status 1"
[06:34] <katy> ok
[06:34] <syntroPi> katy, not sure whats causing that crash though since i didnt find anything in your Xorg.0.log
[06:36] <syntroPi> katy, unfortunately that means nvidia driver itself has some problem with Xorg server and not just your backlight
[06:36] <katy> ok i got you.
[06:38] <katy> syntroPi: so are we dead? :\
[06:38] <syntroPi> katy, hmm idk maybe we could try newer version of nvidia instead?
[06:39] <syntroPi> katy, this one is nvidia-current on quantal x64 right?
[06:39] <katy> i believe so. i installed from command prompt with "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"
[06:40] <syntroPi> yep
[06:40] <katy> yup. 12.10  x64
[06:41] <katy> i have the GeForce GT 330M graphics card. should we look for a specific driver for this card?
[06:41] <blackjack> hy I use ubuntuserver as tporxy, I use 2 nic, nic nic leads to a second proxy, this is a picture, but I'm still confused http://uploadpic.org/v.php?img=3doJcpmFIQ
[06:42] <syntroPi> dr_willis, do you know how the nvidia drivers newer than nvidia current are called on quantal? maybe the 310 ones?
[06:44] <ManFromNanTucket> Would I want to put a 32 bit ubuntu on a 2GB RAM machine?
[06:44] <ManFromNanTucket> even if the CPU is 64 bit supported
[06:45] <aeon-ltd> ManFromNanTucket: the only gains you'd get is that you're future proofed i guess...
[06:45] <ManFromNanTucket> aeon-ltd: does linux use a lot of RAM doing nothing like Windows 7 64 bit vs 32 bit ?
[06:46] <ManFromNanTucket> Windows 7 64 bit used 1.5 GBs of RAM just looking at it.
[06:46] <ManFromNanTucket> while the 32bit was more on par with XP
[06:46] <blackjack> damn
[06:46] <ManFromNanTucket> (enterprise trail editions.. but still )
[06:46] <aeon-ltd> ManFromNanTucket: the ram usage depends on what environment you use, then on the services/daemons you use
[06:47] <ManFromNanTucket> aeon-ltd: so it's not going to matter 32 bit over 64 bit ?
[06:47] <aeon-ltd> with openbox, almost no services you could get down to ~60mb
[06:47] <aeon-ltd> ManFromNanTucket: not unless you have planned ram upgrades
[06:47] <syntroPi> katy, there are some experimantal ones on https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=quantal          but im not sure if i should recomment those
[06:47] <ManFromNanTucket> aeon-ltd: On a DDR2 machine? no no no
[06:47] <aeon-ltd> ManFromNanTucket: or if you need to use software thats 64bit only
[06:48] <ManFromNanTucket> So, go ahead with a 64 bit install anyway?
[06:49] <devslash> I downloaded the 12.10 desktop iso and need to install some extra packages. Is there a default root password
[06:49] <aeon-ltd> ManFromNanTucket: i would go with 32bit, if you separate / and /home on install you can easily switch
[06:49] <ManFromNanTucket> ok
[06:50] <katy> syntroPi, sorry experimental whats?
[06:50] <syntroPi> drivers but those may be _very_ unstable
[06:50] <katy> xserver-xorg-video-intel ? what are we trying to replace the driver or xorg?
[06:51] <katy> ok so this is a compatability issue between my hardware and the driver?
[06:51] <syntroPi> katy, something like nvidia-graphics-drivers-310 maybe
[06:52] <syntroPi> katy but i am not sure if that will help. id not recommend that yet
[06:52] <katy> so i should download that file and install it from the source?
[06:52] <devslash> I downloaded the desktop iso. Am I supposed to be able to choose lvm for the partition
[06:54] <katy> syntroPi: so is this a compatability issue between my hardware and the driver? would be strange because I had 12.10 running on my macbook before and im almost certain i had the nvidia driver installed. i had to do a fresh install for a seperate reason
[06:54] <syntroPi> katy, well i have to admit im a bit out out ideas how do narrow down that nvidia-current crashing on your macbook pro 6,2 with that GeForce GT 330M  GPU
[06:54] <tersin> syntroPi: Could get it directly here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-295.53-driver.html
[06:55] <e_t_> devslash: the desktop image allows auto-setup of LVM, but doesn't let you configure it yourself. In answer to your previous question, ubuntu doesn't use a root password at all (unless you set one). Use sudo.
[06:55] <katy> synthroPi & tersin: my card is listed as supported. should i try this?
[06:56] <devslash> I'm trying to set up an encrypted file system. Do I have to use lvm for that?
[06:56] <syntroPi> tersin, she is on NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  304.43
[06:57] <katy> syntroPi: does that mean its not gonna work?
[06:58] <devslash> e_t do I have to use lvm to use an encrypted file system
[06:58] <syntroPi> katy, id bet it would if we did find the issue somehow. maybe you remember which version worked on your 12.10 ?
[06:59] <tersin> syntroPi: maybe this then?  http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-310.32-driver.html
[06:59] <katy> its weird i think i installed it from terminal with the apt-get command....
[06:59] <katy> what do mean if we did find the issue? we don't know the issue?
[07:00] <syntroPi> katy, well we know Xorg server crashes with that nvidia module for some reason "issue"
[07:02] <katy> so is it an issue with the nvidia driver or X11/xorg?
[07:02] <syntroPi> seems so
 sorry which? or both?
[07:03] <syntroPi> katy, well lightdm starts Xorg and both use nvidia driver
[07:03] <syntroPi> katy,  then nvidia driver crashes, Xorg crashes and lightdm exits
[07:04] <syntroPi> katy, and maybe nvidia crashes because some hw (backlight) is not initialized correctly?
[07:05] <e_t_> devslash: I believe that is the case. I think there's a checkbox in the installer for encrypting your home.
[07:05] <devslash> I want the full FS to be encrypted not just the home directory
[07:05] <katy> should we try to do the blacklighdm or what ever we did in the begining again?
[07:07] <syntroPi> katy, try something else: "sudo mv /etc/xorg.conf /etc/xorg.conf.nvidia-crashing" and then "sudo service lightdm restart"
[07:07] <syntroPi> brb
[07:07] <e_t_> devslash: The installer won't do that for you.
[07:07] <katy> mv: cannot stat `/etc/xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[07:07] <devslash> So what can I do?
[07:08] <katy> i thought we created it succesfully? remember?
[07:08] <tersin> katy:   sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nvidia-crashing
[07:09] <katy> tesin: all one command like "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nvidia-crashing
[07:09] <katy> "
[07:09] <katy> or two commands?
[07:10] <tersin> katy: one command
[07:11] <syntroPi> katy, sorry i meant "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nvivia-crashing"
[07:11] <syntroPi> one command
[07:12] <katy> onf.nvivia-crashing
[07:12] <katy> mv: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[07:12] <syntroPi> humm the Xorg.0.log said "[    26.413] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf""
[07:12] <syntroPi> weird
[07:12] <AirCombat> Hi there. Just have a question about streming media from a Windows box to my ubuntu machine. stream is very choppy and not at all smooth, unlike previous OS of XP on this machine... ubuntu 12.10.
[07:12] <yugandhar> Hi , Can anyone help me out to do the Kernel-based-virtual machines on ubuntu 10.04
[07:13] <katy> * sergmadox (~root@188.
[07:13] <DaemonicApathy> AirCombat, which Win?
[07:13] <katy> -bash: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[07:13] <AirCombat> Vista Ultimate
[07:13] <AirCombat> I uninstalled Live Essentials already, as I heard that conflicted sometimes.
[07:14] <syntroPi> katy, "find /etc -name xorg.conf"
[07:14] <DaemonicApathy> There's half your problem, I'll bet. My first thought would be to trim the running processes and decorations.
[07:14] <katy> find: `/etc/ssl/private': Permission denied
[07:14] <katy> find: `/etc/cups/ssl': Permission denied
[07:14] <AirCombat> well, streaming from that vista machine always worked great. it's specs are pretty insane compared to this machine.
[07:14] <syntroPi> katy, ignore those permission denied
[07:15] <AirCombat> Is it possible that 12.10 ubuntu is using more resources on this computer than XP Home?
[07:16] <katy> what do you mean ignore? what do i do next?
[07:16] <DaemonicApathy> Ah, XP ~> Ubuntu changed. I misunderstood. Yes, it's possible.
[07:16] <syntroPi> katy, you can mute those with "find /etc -name xorg.conf 2> /dev/null"
[07:16] <syntroPi> katy it didnt find a xorg.conf file?
[07:17] <syntroPi> katy if so then try "sudo service lightdm restart"
[07:17] <wiggmpk> If anyone has a chance to look at my suspend log, I cant get suspend to work =( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635657/
[07:17] <e_t_> devslash: https://57un.wordpress.com/2013/02/01/full-disk-encryption-using-ubuntu-in-most-secure-mode-with-aes-xts-plain64/
[07:17] <AirCombat> I mean, I'm falling in love with linux, and there's no way in heck I'm switching back. I managed to get ubuntu to see my windows external HDD and so I can finally try to stream but it just lags.
[07:17] <devslash> Thanks
[07:18] <katy> stop: Unknown instance:
[07:18] <katy> lightdm start/running, process 2651
[07:19] <syntroPi> katy,  can you provide us with "dmesg | pastebinit"  btw?
[07:19] <DaemonicApathy> wiggmpk: try killing pulseaudio first
[07:19] <AirCombat> how can I make 12.10 less graphically intense to free up some resources for streaming? local video playback is fine, though, so I wonder if that is even the problem
[07:19] <aeon-ltd> AirCombat: don't use unity or compiz
[07:19] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: I've tried it in the paste, but I'll give it a quick try again.. gonna get disconnected quick
[07:20] <DaemonicApathy> AirCombat: Have you already tried logging into Unity 2D instead of the default Unity?
[07:20] <AirCombat> no, I didn't know that was possible, lol. maybe that'll help
[07:20] <AirCombat> can I change that to be the default from now on?
[07:20] <DaemonicApathy> Or, as aeon-ltd suggested, you could avoid them entirely...but yeah, just log out, change to Unity2D and log back in.
[07:21] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635671/
[07:21] <AirCombat> Where's the option for that?
[07:21] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: i used "pulseaudio -k" and then hit suspend, still get kicked back to my lock screen. Am I killing pulseaudio properly?
[07:22] <DaemonicApathy> By default, loggin out is done at the top right panel option on your screen.
[07:22] <AirCombat> no, I know how to log out, lol. I meant change to 2D
[07:22] <devslash> e_t I backed out of the partitioning part of the installer. When I run the first cryptsetup command it says that sda4 is in use
[07:22] <DaemonicApathy> wiggmpk: sudo killall pulseaudio, or end it from the system monitor if you prefer
[07:22] <katy> syntroPi: any change?
[07:22] <syntroPi> katy, hmm that was before you did that service lightdm restart ?
[07:22] <DaemonicApathy> AirCombat: At the login, there's an option at the top right of your account name.
[07:23] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: I'll give it another shot
[07:23] <AirCombat> okay cool. brb. btw thanks for your help DaemonicApathy
[07:23] <yugandhar> Hi , Please help me out on KVM
[07:24] <e_t_> !ask | yugandhar
[07:24] <tersin> katy: When trying to move xorg.conf, the x in X11 was capital right, and the x in xorg.conf lowercase?
[07:24] <syntroPi> katy, cant see any changes there hmmm "lsmod | pastebinit" ?
[07:24] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: same result, only this time didnt get a lock screen, just flashes like its gonna do it and then back to desktop
[07:25] <yugandhar> Thanks alot ubottu
[07:25] <katy> syntroPi: Yes, capital
[07:25] <Cyclohexane> Is it possible to create a random binary file? (I just need quickly to test)
[07:26]  * Halite just encountered a Kernel Panic!
[07:26] <syntroPi> tersin, proxy katy: Yes, capital
[07:27] <DaemonicApathy> wiggmpk: Other than trying http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-suspend-and-hibernation-problem-for-laptops.html , I honestly don't know.
[07:27] <syntroPi> katy, can you provide "lsmod | pastebinit" ?
[07:27] <AirCombat> hmm, so there were no graphical options on the login screen. just very basic options in the uper right.\
[07:28] <Halite> :O
[07:28] <DaemonicApathy> AirCombat, I'm sorry. I forgot it was removed in 12.10
[07:28] <Halite> Obsolete packages
[07:29] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635682/
[07:29] <AirCombat> can i do it manually?
[07:29] <Halite> How do I install or upgrade packages
[07:29] <AirCombat> Halite: use Ubuntu Software Manager or sudo apt-get install (package name)
[07:29] <spyzer> hey guys anyone has any idea which graphics perofrmance test should i run on ubuntu 12.04 from phoronix for testing?
[07:29] <Halite> thanks
[07:29] <Halite> I needed sudo apt-get
[07:30] <AirCombat> sorry, ubuntu software center.
[07:30] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: I'll keep that in mind as a last resort, but it was working with a previous kernel and would rather debug it so it works without extra packages
[07:30] <wiggmpk> DaemonicApathy: thanks for the info mate
[07:30] <DaemonicApathy> AirCombat: If you install compizconfig-settings-manager, you can set up a command to toggle Unity entirely. Or just install a lighter DM.
[07:30] <spyzer> anybody please
[07:31] <DaemonicApathy> spyzer, run all of them.
[07:31] <AirCombat> okay, I'll install that now. how do I configure it?
[07:32] <syntroPi> katy, hmm looks fine
[07:32] <Halite> takes some time
[07:32] <DaemonicApathy> AirCombat: It has a handy GUI.
[07:32] <b0nn> hm, I installed libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-quantal on my system, now the system is unbootable, how do I remove the glx files and replace them with  the ones that were working?
[07:32] <katy> what do you mean by that? Do you think I will be able to reboot in regular mode?
[07:32] <AirCombat> okay, DaemonicApathy I'll give it a shot... brb :)
[07:32] <spyzer> DaemonicApathy, So whom do i compare those to?
[07:33] <spyzer> DaemonicApathy, some weird issue is happening to my pandaboard ubuntu 12.04 with hardware acceleration shows 19 fps in glx gears but ubuntu 12.10 with software rendering shows 40 fps
[07:33] <spyzer> I wish to debug this  out thorugh phoronix test suite
[07:33] <Halite> I was going to ask a question on why my computer recently had a Kernel Panic, but the report details said the reason for me!
[07:33] <spyzer> so if i run all tests where can i  find a comparison standard data
[07:33] <spyzer> ?
[07:34] <DaemonicApathy> No idea, spyzer. You could ask phoronix.
[07:34] <syntroPi> katy, means it looks as all modules are loaded as they should and you are in normal mode right now. so why wouldnt "sudo service lightdm restart" work and just crash Xorg??? idk
[07:34] <DaemonicApathy> Halite: Don't you love Linux? :-)
[07:34] <Halite> DaemonicApathy, I do
[07:35] <Halite> DaemonicApathy, it tells me why my computer had a Kernel Panic before I even go to ask the question of why!
[07:35] <syntroPi> katy, reboot wouldnt work since we didnt change the right bits yet i think
[07:35] <DaemonicApathy> And no blue screen.
[07:35] <Halite> DaemonicApathy, it turned out to be some obsolete package versions. I've got to upgrade them.
[07:36] <Halite> you're right, the screen was black at Kernel Panic time
[07:36] <Halite> what's wrong with blue, though
[07:36] <DaemonicApathy> "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade"
[07:36] <DaemonicApathy> Blue is depressing. They did a color study.
[07:36] <AirCombat> Halite: it means Windows ;)
[07:36] <Halite> do red then
[07:36] <katy> syntroPi: ok so what do we want to change?
[07:36] <Halite> red is happy
[07:36] <Halite> red is luuuv
[07:37] <b0nn> what if someone is red/green blind?
[07:37] <syntroPi> katy, good question...
[07:37] <Halite> b0nn, good point
[07:37] <Halite> b0nn, then the screen will be brown :P
[07:37] <AirCombat> btw DaemonicApathy there's a lot of options but I'm not sure where to start. the only option in the 'profile' is unity
[07:37] <b0nn> or grey :)
[07:37] <b0nn> no chance you can help me with my problem?
[07:37] <izx> How to fix this error?? >> "Can't overwrite existing read-only value: Value for `/desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename' set in a read-only source at the front of your configuration path"
[07:37] <syntroPi> katy, that last lightdm didnt do anything?
[07:38] <Halite> it only appears grey if you're totally colourblind (only see black and white)
[07:38] <Halite> it appears brown if you're red-green colorblind
[07:38] <b0nn> the oh
[07:38] <Halite> and appears red if you see colour perfectly
[07:38] <DaemonicApathy> AirCombat: You can adjust any of the settings to your liking, and simply disable Unity for streaming if it helps enough. I overuse "Commands" myself.
[07:39] <Chomps> @izx: change the permissions on the  "picture_filename"
[07:39] <Halite> (I know the changes in colour for a colour-blind person from my heart)
[07:39] <AirCombat> so I could just uncheck "Enable ubuntu Unity Plugin" ?
[07:39] <DaemonicApathy> Yup.
[07:39] <Halite> I can tell you that red and green will look brown in a red-green colourblind person, and aqua would look grey-ish
[07:39] <syntroPi> katy, since we are in normal mode now try another "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and "sudo service lightdm restart"
[07:40] <b0nn> I installed libgl1-mesa-glx-quantal, the system wouldn't reboot after that (hangs on X11 initialisation) . I want to reinstall what was removed by the install, and remove libmesa*
[07:40] <AirCombat> uh... how do I change windows now?? lol.
[07:40] <syntroPi> katy, actually "sudo service lightdm stop"  "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and "sudo service lightdm restart"
[07:40] <Chomps> why not just go with the Ubuntu light green colours...
[07:40] <DaemonicApathy> The idea is to already be where you want to be. But I'd wager alt+tab or Super+tab still work.
[07:41] <katy> WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.
[07:41] <katy> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[07:41]  * syntroPi votes for BlueBuntu or BlackBuntu
[07:41] <katy> lightdm stop/waiting
[07:41] <katy> lightdm start/running, process 2698
[07:42] <katy> lightdm stop/waiting
[07:42]  * Halite wants to change his desktop layout like others
[07:43] <katy> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[07:43] <katy> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[07:43] <katy> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.co
[07:43] <Chomps> katy, if you have and issues with the graphics after a reboot, remember you can safely remove the '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' file and a new default one will be created on startup
[07:43] <DaemonicApathy> Halite, you should. Break things, put them back together however you like, ...profit.
[07:43] <katy> stop: Unknown instance:
[07:43] <katy> lightdm start/running, process 2731
[07:43] <syntroPi> katy, "ps -A | grep lightdm"
[07:43] <bazhang> katy, use pastebin
[07:43] <Halite> DaemonicApathy, ... how
[07:43] <izx> Chomps: I have tried that already, it doesn't help
[07:43] <katy>  2731 ?        00:00:00 lightdm
[07:43] <DaemonicApathy> Halite, Google for a few hours. :-)
[07:44] <syntroPi> katy, ok seems to be runnging now
[07:44] <helmut_> hi
[07:44] <Halite> I don't have hours.
[07:44] <katy> so sudo reboot + cross fingers?
[07:44] <syntroPi> katy how about "ps -A | grep Xorg"
[07:44] <syntroPi> wait
[07:44] <katy>  1489 tty8     00:00:00 Xorg
[07:44] <katy>  2658 tty7     00:00:00 Xorg
[07:44] <katy>  2704 ?        00:00:00 Xorg
[07:44] <katy>  2737 ?        00:00:00 Xorg
[07:44] <FloodBot1> katy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:45] <syntroPi> katy, oook at least Xorg seems to be running now
[07:45] <syntroPi> katy "sudo reboot"
[07:45] <syntroPi> brb
[07:48] <AirCombat> DaemonicApathy: well that was a bad idea. now my main account is screwed, I can't do anything!! lol. how do I re-enable it? I cant even open a terminal window in that account.
[07:48] <Uzmanium>  /msg NickServ identify
[07:49] <NeoColossus> Hello everyone!
[07:49] <katy> syntroPi: unfortunaly it did the same thing. booted to a black screen
[07:50] <syntroPi> katy, ook well ssh in again
[07:50] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  worse case.. login to console. delete/move all your settings files to a backup directory
[07:50] <syntroPi> katy, see if Xorg running "ps -A | grep Xorg"
[07:51] <AirCombat> how do I login to anything but my user accounts? I wish I could just get to a command line BEFORE it opened the GUI
[07:51] <luisgmarine_mac> hey guys I'm trying to set up a share using Samba, but everytime I right click on the folder I was to share I get an error about test parm , thus I can't seem to see the folder from any other computer on the network
[07:52] <katy>  1338 tty8     00:00:00 Xorg
[07:52] <dr_willis> luisgmarine_mac:  you could edit your smb.conf and add the shares manually.  i thought 'testparm' veriried your smb.conf was correct.. perhaps theres a mistake in it.
[07:53] <Ademan> The results here: http://wiki.debian.org/rt2800usb#Supported_Devices don't look like what I get when I run `modinfo rt2800usb` I assume that's ok since it seems to detect the device (but it crashes and burns and fails miserably :-/)
[07:53] <syntroPi> katy ok fine how about "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit"
[07:54] <AirCombat> man I'm lost now. I just need to feed a few commands to compizcontrol-settings-manager from my other accounts to re-enable unity. I need some kind of GUI in my main account!
[07:54] <syntroPi> katy and "dmesg | pastebinit"
[07:54] <luisgmarine_mac> dr_willis, okay I'm trying that right now.  I can't seem to understand exactly what the workgroup is suppose to be.  I came up with a random name that sounds cool, but I'm not sure if it serves another purpose
[07:55] <AirCombat> luisgmarine_mac: the workgroup needs to be the same on all computers. pick something simple and short to avoid conflicts
[07:55] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635730/
[07:55] <dr_willis> luisgmarine_mac:  you use the same workgroup name on all pcs you want to be part of the same 'workgroup' its NOT a random name
[07:55] <dr_willis> luisgmarine_mac:  when in doubt use 'workgroup' ;)
[07:56] <runarfreyr> I´m curious why online dash search in 13.04 doesnt pick up amazon or 100 scopes at my pc?
[07:56] <syntroPi> katy, unfortunately it still crashes
[07:56] <luisgmarine_mac> dr_willis, okay sweet.  That clears that up
[07:56] <AirCombat> dr_willis: have you been following my problem at all?
[07:57] <dr_willis> runarfreyr:  perhaps its not a working feautre yet. -  13.04 support in #ubuntu+1
[07:57] <katy> ok. so we dont know why its crashing?
[07:57] <runarfreyr> dr_willis amazon search should have worked since 12.10 right?
[07:57] <syntroPi> katy, nope but im confused that it seems to be live too "ps -A | grep Xorg"
[07:58] <dr_willis> runarfreyr:  things are in beta.. they break.work. break again...
[07:58] <runarfreyr> Sure but thing is it has never worked, I only get ubuntu one music
[07:58] <kujablak> Hi, I'm trying to recover .sav files that I accidentally erased, I've tried foremost but it doesn't recognise it ? What can I use ?
[07:58] <katy> what do you mean live too "ps -A | grep Xorg"?
[08:00] <syntroPi> katy but the running instance pid 1338 on tty8 seems to be another (later) one different from the one pid 1125 that was on tty7 and crashing
[08:00] <runarfreyr> Ok it was just a question of anyone else experiencing the same. It would be very helpful b.t.w
[08:01] <AirCombat> I need a darn cigarette... if anyone has a clue how to re-enable unity from the guest account, help would be muchos appreciados.
[08:01] <katy> syntroPi: that went a little over my head. can you dumb it down for me a bit
[08:01] <katy> ?
[08:01] <luisgmarine> I wish I could have a cig, lol last time I ever get caught in a blizzard without cigs for a month ;)
[08:01] <syntroPi> katy you did run  "ps -A | grep Xorg" which showed that 1338 tty8 Xorg and the one from "dmesg" is earlier crashing pid 1125
[08:02] <syntroPi> katy "pid" means process id and is unique for each invoked instance of a program running by the kernel
[08:04] <syntroPi> katy just out of curiosity can you give us the "find /sys -name '*gmux*' 2> /dev/null |  pastebinit" link?
[08:04] <dr_willis> AirCombat:  login to the console. as your user.. delete/move/renmame all the unity/compiz related config files..  (move them all to a backup directory)
[08:04] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635745/
[08:05] <AirCombat> i dont understand what you mean by log into the console
[08:05] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-f1  through F6 = the consoles.
[08:05] <gau1991> hii
[08:05] <ShukkoO> My mac wont boot properly, i get the message /dev/mapper/ubuntu-swap_1 is not ready yet or not present and then i log in on ubuntu and then it freezes. What is wrong?, and what can i do?
[08:06] <AirCombat> omg!!! I KNEW those were somewhere!! I used to use linux when I was like 13 and I knew those were somewhere!!
[08:06] <luisgmarine> dr_willis, everything looks good in my /smb.conf but still get the same error.  When I try to share folder by right-clicking it, am I suppose to be in super mode?
[08:07] <dr_willis> luisgmarine:  users can create user defined shares.. but i rarely use the feature..
[08:07] <b0nn> hm, what are the packages required for a desktop, such as unity?
[08:07] <dr_willis> luisgmarine:  about all i ever do is define the Homes share
[08:07] <fidel> ubuntu-desktop (as meta-package most likely)
[08:08] <syntroPi> katy, ok can you "ls -l /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight"
[08:08] <luisgmarine> dr_willis, hmm I'm sort of lost.  I thought setting up a folder to share on my home network would be a lot easier than this, but I think tinkering with my system I screwed something up
[08:08] <fidel> b0nn: so installing 'ubuntu-desktop' should bring all relevant packages to you
[08:08] <dr_willis> luisgmarine:  on a new install.. i just right click, share... and it normally works..
[08:08] <ShukkoO> My mac wont boot properly, i get the message /dev/mapper/ubuntu-swap_1 is not ready yet or not present and then i log in on ubuntu and then it freezes. What is wrong?, and what can i do?
[08:09] <bazhang> !repeat | ShukkoO
[08:09] <luisgmarine> dr_willis, yeah I just did a fresh install and it worked too :).  I honestly don't know what I did to screw that up.
[08:09] <b0nn> hm, apt-get is broken now
[08:09] <luisgmarine> I really don't want to do a fresh install either
[08:09] <fidel> b0nn: define broken
[08:09] <b0nn> Not using locking for read only lock file
[08:10] <b0nn> Unable to write to /var/cache/apt
[08:10] <syntroPi> katy try "cd /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight"
[08:10] <dr_willis> luisgmarine:  theres always defining shares in smb.conf
[08:10] <syntroPi> katy then ls
[08:10] <b0nn> The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened
[08:10] <luisgmarine> dr_willis, what do you mean by defining?
[08:10] <fidel> b0nn: guess something else is using apt right now - thats why it might be blocked via its lock file. if thats not the case - paste the full errormessage to this channel
[08:11] <b0nn> I think the disk is mounted ro
[08:11] <katy> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Feb 11 00:10 /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight -> ../../devices/pnp0/00:09/backlight/gmux_backlight
[08:11] <b0nn> but mount is reporting everything as rw
[08:11] <bazhang> fidel, you mean to pastebin hopefully
[08:11] <dr_willis> luisgmarine:  you can set up shares in the smb.conf file. the whole 'user defined shares' is just one way to set up shares
[08:11] <b0nn> fidel: I cannot paste, the problems are on another machine
[08:11] <katy> bl_power           device      power           type
[08:12] <syntroPi> katy, actually ls -l
[08:12] <fidel> bazhang: my main concert was that he/she should poste the real error - not a user-interpreted version of it
[08:12] <MoL0ToV> hi to all! someone explain to me howto make act a usb dongle on ubuntu as access point to share internet?
[08:12] <fidel> for sure using some paste-service might be good - as long as it isnt a 1-liner
[08:13] <dr_willis> !ics | MoL0ToV
[08:13] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635754/
[08:14] <syntroPi> katy,  ok maybe we try writing to brightness
[08:14] <katy> ok lets do it
[08:14] <syntroPi> katy, "cat  /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/brightness"
[08:15] <katy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635758/
[08:16] <sencha> Any reason 3d games are _significantly_ slower on Ubuntu than on my previous Slackware installation?
[08:16] <sencha> I've noticed the same thing in Debian as well.
[08:16] <syntroPi> katy, ok hmm now its on 101227 and the link before said "backlight_brightness range  0-82311"
[08:16] <dr_willis> sencha:  turn off compiz/use a lighter desktop/window manager
[08:17] <syntroPi> katy, but that was /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/apple_backlight/subsystem/gmux_backlight/brightness
[08:17] <sencha> dr_willis, :(
[08:17] <katy> is that a command?
[08:18] <dr_willis> sencha: ?
[08:18] <katy> do we need to change the brightness settings?
[08:18] <sencha> dr_willis, the whole point of using ubuntu is to be able to use unity lol
[08:18] <syntroPi> katy maybe we try something like "sudo sh -c 'echo -n "80000" > /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/brightness'"
[08:18] <ShukkoO> I get the message /dev/mapper/ubuntu-swap_1 is not ready yet or not present and after that i can log in but then everything freezes. Whats wrong?
[08:19] <aeon-ltd> sencha: disagree, ubuntu is good to use because of it's expansive support and stability
[08:19] <dr_willis> sencha:  unity and compiz use the 3d system and system resources...  give us more details about what games and perhaps we can figure out more.. or test them in a lighter desktop
[08:19] <katy> syntroPi: ok i ran it there was no output.
[08:19] <syntroPi> katy thats normal
[08:19] <sencha> dr_willis, neverball, xonotic are all I've tried thus far
[08:20] <sencha> dr_willis, xonotic, for example, runs 30-50 FPS on ubuntu, whereas I get 300+ on slackware
[08:20] <dr_willis> sencha:  and your video drivers are? and whats your video card?
[08:20] <sencha> dr_willis,  nvidia geforce 9800 GTX+
[08:20] <sencha> dr_willis, using the official nvidia driver
[08:20] <katy> ok. is there a next step?
[08:20] <dr_willis> what do you mean 'official' where did you install them from?
[08:20] <syntroPi> katy maybe we also need to do "cat /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/actual_brightness" as well as "cat /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/max_brightness" and "cat /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/power"
[08:20] <sencha> dr_willis, installed it from the ubuntu software center
[08:21] <sencha> dr_willis, official nvidia blob as opposed to nouveau
[08:21] <syntroPi> katy, forget the power one thats a dir
[08:21] <syntroPi> katy,  whats in actual_brightness?
[08:22] <dr_willis> sencha:  ran nvidia-settings tobe sure they are actually being used?
[08:22] <syntroPi> katy, replace that power one with "cat /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/bl_power"
[08:22] <katy> i just ran, "cat /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/actual_brightness" and it game me diffenrt prompt with the ">"  before where i can type
[08:22] <syntroPi> katy, ctr D
[08:22] <b0nn> got it, was missing xserver and xorg, these came down with ubuntu-desktop
[08:23] <sencha> dr_willis, appears to be
[08:23] <syntroPi> you mistyped somewhere? probably with quotes
[08:23] <b0nn> man that was painful, I wish there was a apt-get undo my last stupid install and replace the files you removed
[08:23] <katy> cat: /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/power: Is a directory
[08:23] <dr_willis> sencha:  test it in a light window manager. such as jwm. see if it gives you any moar speeds.
[08:23] <syntroPi> katy ok sorry i was a bit too fast
[08:24] <syntroPi> katy what does cat /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/actual_brightness" give you ?
[08:24] <katy> the output of the last one u gave me was "0
[08:24] <katy> "
[08:24] <katy> cat: /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/actual_brightnes: No such file or directory
[08:24] <syntroPi> actual brightness that was?
[08:25] <syntroPi> huh? but wasnt it there http://paste.ubuntu.com/1635754/
[08:26] <syntroPi> katy what was that command which gave you "0" again
[08:26] <syntroPi> ?
[08:26] <syntroPi> bl_power?
[08:26] <katy>  cat /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/bl_power
[08:26] <syntroPi> great
[08:27] <syntroPi> katy "        sudo sh -c 'echo -n "1" >  /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/bl_power'    "
[08:28] <katy> is that two commands or one
[08:28] <katy> ?
[08:28] <syntroPi> one line
[08:28] <katy> ok. i ran it. no output.
[08:29] <syntroPi> writes 1 to that file with a root shell
[08:29] <syntroPi> no backlight still?
[08:29] <katy> on the macbook pro?
[08:29] <syntroPi> katy, " cat /sys/class/backlight/gmux_backlight/bl_power"
[08:29] <syntroPi> yes
[08:30] <katy> '1' is the output
[08:30] <syntroPi> katy, ok but backlights are still off?
[08:32] <katy> yeah on the macbook pro. its still a black screen and i dont see any light coming thro the black
[08:35] <katy> syntroPi should it have turned on?
[08:35] <syntroPi> i hoped so
[08:36] <katy> lol well i didnt
[08:36] <sencha> dr_willis, I'll have to try it in unity 2D and see what happens, thanks :)
[08:36] <syntroPi> katy see my private message
[08:37] <hckzwf> s
[08:37] <ozy> i have a freshly installed 12.10 install, and I am seeing *very* high iowait issues. Anyone know how to diagnose this? i'm running a 'repo sync' on another shell, and Iam seeing 100% io utilizizaion....
[08:39] <hckzwf> i have a problem, say"You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server."
[08:39] <bekks> ozy: Then your harddisk(s) are 100% busy.
[08:40] <ozy> bekks: I have a hard time believing that is true, and nothing is wrong -- i have a good internet connection, but not *that* good....
[08:41] <bekks> ozy: I/O wait is causw by a system waiting for finishing I/O.
[08:42] <ShukkoO> Annyone know what this means ? /dev/mapper/ubuntu-swap_1 is not ready yet or not present
[08:42] <savagecroc> hey.. i want to uninstall nginx from my server .. when i do locate nginx everything appears to be in /opt/nginx.. do you think it would be ok just to go rm -rf /opt/nginx and assume that will uninstall it?
[08:42] <savagecroc> p.s. i didn't use apt-get to install it
[08:43] <fidel> savagecroc: i cant help you with that question - but 1 lesson for yourself in the future should be: try to install via apt if possible ;)
[08:43] <savagecroc> yeah not possible in this case
[08:44] <savagecroc> i do where i can
[08:47] <justmmt> hi #ubuntu :)
[08:47] <cfhowlett> justmmt, greetings
[08:48] <syntroPi> !gmux > syntroPi
[08:48] <justmmt> cfhowlett, thanks
[08:54] <dr_willis> savagecroc:  be safer to just rename/move the directory - just in case you need it back
[08:54] <savagecroc> i'm installing it again
[08:55] <savagecroc> so i won't need the old one
[08:57] <MatthewL> !join |	ubottu
[08:58] <savagecroc> :( the packages are always weeks out of date
[08:58] <MatthewL> !fun |	 ubottu
[08:58] <MatthewL> !javascript |	ubottu
[09:00] <joshuafcole> Hey there. I've got a bit of a quandary. I was running a mass of updates on my server when I stopped home this weekend. It turns out, at least one of them required user-interaction. I don't have retty installed, and my old VNC program Guacamole is failing to actually VNC anymore. Any way to steal the process so I can finish the update, or failing that, safely halt it to resume in a new TTY?
[09:01] <cfhowlett> joshuafcole, good question for #ubuntuserver ???
[09:01] <joshuafcole> I use apt-get for package management, in case its relevant.
[09:01] <joshuafcole> Okay, I'll check there. Thanks!
[09:01] <dr_willis> !info retty
[09:01] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever used retty.. ;)
[09:01] <joshuafcole> Neither have I, it came up in my RTFM'ing. =P
[09:02] <joshuafcole> cfhowlett: the #ubuntuserver channel appears to be empty. =/
[09:02] <dr_willis> if its waiting for user input and you kill the apt prcess.. i think somthing like 'sudo apt-get reconfigure -a' will make it reconfigure.. and continue.. i maybe wrong on the option however.
[09:02] <dr_willis> or was it dpkg-reconfigure -a
[09:02] <cfhowlett> joshuafcole, drop the question there, come back here ...
[09:03] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, apt-get update --f or --repair   in this case???
[09:03] <joshuafcole> I'm afraid I don't understand, cfhowlett. The channel appears to be completely empty except for me. Is it on a different network?
[09:03] <Myrtti> joshuafcole: #ubuntu-server
[09:03] <joshuafcole> dr_willis: I've used apt-get -f install and dpkg-reconfigure -a with more or less equal success before.
[09:03] <cfhowlett> joshuafcole, people drop in and drop out.  leave the qeustion and see
[09:03] <Myrtti> with -
[09:04] <joshuafcole> Myrtti: thanks!
[09:05] <joshuafcole> I've resurrected it from shutting down during updates before, but it always puts me into a bit of a cold sweat.
[09:05] <spyzer> hey everyone even  in ubuntu 12.04 the package pvr-omap4 is missing
[09:05] <spyzer> as mentioned here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pvr-omap4/+bug/1102045
[09:05] <spyzer> this bug occurs in 12.10
[09:06] <spyzer> so i revrted back to ubuntu 12.04
[09:06] <spyzer> but it says that pvr_dri.so cannot be found
[09:06] <spyzer> i reinstalled the package but still the same thing
[09:06] <spyzer> please help
[09:07] <cfhowlett> spyzer, not seeing it in the repos for 12.04
[09:07] <dr_willis> its amazeing all the arm based things comming out. ;)
[09:08]  * dr_willis types that message from his Raspberry Pi.
[09:08] <spyzer> cfhowlett, so what do you think then what is happening?
[09:08] <spyzer> my ubuntu is updated
[09:08] <bekks> dr_willis: How long did you take? ;)
[09:08] <dr_willis> !find pvr_dri.so
[09:08] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, oh, rub it in ...
[09:09] <syntroPi> guys on a macbook pro keyboard: how do access those brightness symbols on the function keys? is it option or apple key or what ?
[09:09] <dr_willis> !find omap_dri.so
[09:09] <cfhowlett> spyzer, i am also updated and have all repos enabled.  the package isn't there.  I couldn't see the bug report as I'm in china, but I'd guess it's been replaced by something else.  sadly, no indication of what the replacement package might be ...
[09:09] <ponaymen> VERROUILLE TON PC BORDEL !
[09:10] <spyzer> cfhowlett, u mean the package pvr-omap4 is not there?
[09:10] <dr_willis> there is the #ubuntu-arm channel these days..
[09:10] <cfhowlett> !fr|ponaymen,
[09:10] <cfhowlett> spyzer, correct not in 12.04 ... no candidate and no other information ....
[09:10] <coder_> .
[09:11] <cfhowlett> joshuafcole, you still here?  see the #ubuntuserver
[09:11] <joshuafcole> Yep, thanks!
[09:13] <zouky> it
[09:13] <spyzer> cfhowlett, then how am i able to an apt-get install on that i rechecked my version is ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[09:14] <cfhowlett> spyzer, do apt-cache policy on that package and see what you get back.  Also, check your repos to see that they're enabled ... although I would leave "proposed" inactive
[09:16] <adminitrador> so?
[09:16] <spyzer> cfhowlett, it says /precise/restricted
[09:17] <cfhowlett> spyzer, ah, so you found a candidate?  then sudo apt-get install packagename
[09:17] <spyzer> cfhowlett, that's the thing i installed it it built the module
[09:17] <spyzer> and it installed the package
[09:18] <spyzer> but still the file which xorg is looking doesn't exist in my system
[09:18] <cfhowlett> spyzer, confused.  I understood you did NOT have the package .....
[09:18] <cfhowlett> spyzer, reboot?  perhaps something needs to initialize ...
[09:18] <spyzer> cfhowlett, tried that will do that again, should i go for untrusted repo
[09:18] <spyzer> ?
[09:20] <cfhowlett> spyzer, I'm on 12.04 ubuntu studio, all repos enabled and I DON'T see it.  have you enabled a ppa or somthing to get that package?
[09:23] <spyzer> restricted must be enabled i guess
[09:23] <spyzer> plus i am on pandaboard ubuntu
[09:23] <captainlinux> Guys how do you think, is it better to kind of merge webapp icons with applications which are calling them? I mean - the more tabs I open in my firefox the more webapps get called and at the end my dash is full of useless icons which I don't even touch. Wouldn't it be better just to change the Icon of Firefox according to the active webapp and to change the icon every time you change the tab calling another webapp?
[09:24] <dr_willis> i think the whole webapp idea needs rethought. ;)
[09:24] <cfhowlett> spyzer, pandaboard?  whateverthatis ... OK, well, if you can see the package in your repos, take your chances I suppose.  Sorry I can't offer more definitive advice ....
[09:27] <captainlinux> dr_willis: I totally agree. Until now I haven't seen any use of it. I don't even know what any of those webapps has changed in the system. I haven't noticed anything yet. The only thing I have noticed is the dash being overloaded with webapp icons which are totally useless...
[09:28] <family> h
[09:28] <family> h
[09:28] <family> h
[09:28] <cfhowlett> family, greetings
[09:28] <family> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:29] <family> no body here
[09:33] <dr_willis> wow... impatient much?
[09:33] <dr_willis> ;)
[09:37] <nassepossu> hi, do you have any ideas why mouse pointer is only able to move vertically
[09:37] <fidel> nassepossu: can you reproduce that with another mouse (hardware)
[09:38] <nassepossu> i don't have another mouse available
[09:38] <nassepossu> but it's an optical mouse so hardware problems would sound weird to me considering it moves up and down
[09:39] <dr_willis> seen broken wires act that way.
[09:39] <nassepossu> that sounds sensible
[09:41] <nassepossu> the pointer is fixed to the left side of screen and when i hit RMB, it opens a dialog in the rightmost side of screen too
[09:43] <fidel> nassepossu: i would try to 'test' with another mouse. shouldnt be impossible nowadays to ask a neighbour or something like that
[09:43] <fidel> that easily answers the question if its an hardware issue
[09:47] <dr_willis> smack the rat on the table hard a few times.. ;P
[09:47] <nassepossu> :D
[09:47] <dr_willis> or try wiggling the wires.
[09:48] <flux242> xubuntu users here? their channel seems dead
[09:48] <cfhowlett> flux242, ubuntustudio 12.04 thus xubuntu 12.04.  what's up?
[09:49] <flux242> no, simply wanted to ask how to get rid of the action buttons plugin text in the panel
[09:49] <flux242> I want a button that opens a submenu
[09:49] <flux242> not a text
[09:50] <cfhowlett> flux242, the bottom panel?  that would be in panel settings ...
[09:51] <cfhowlett> flux242, you mean create your own custom button or change default behaviors?
[09:51] <flux242> bottom or upper it depends. There is this ugly actions button plugin. I can either have a text like 'xubuntu 12.10' to open a submenu or I have all its buttons in the panel
[09:52] <flux242> and I want to have only one button that opens a submenu
[09:52] <uyab> request shell plis
[09:52] <flux242> see what i mean?
[09:53] <cfhowlett> flux242, it'll be in panel preferences but you might need to edit items individually.
[09:54] <flux242> don't get it
[09:55] <cfhowlett> flux242, right click on the panel > panel > panel preferences
[09:56] <flux242> what gives?
[09:56] <dr_willis> uyab:  Do you have a ubuntu support question
[09:56] <exalt> hey how can i see which video driver i use, ubuntu 12.10 ?
[09:57] <flux242> damn, i really do not want to take a screenshot because it's obvious problem. Do not understand why nobody complains
[09:57] <dr_willis> exalt: the x org logs should show
[09:58] <cfhowlett> flux242, screenshot would help though ...
[09:59] <exalt> dr_willis: i have a asus eeepc with sufficient systemspecs but its unbelievable slow! not normal because it used to run 12.04 and backtrack linux like a train
[09:59] <mote> Hi guys. Are askubuntu.com Down??
[10:00] <cfhowlett> mote, http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/askubuntu.com
[10:00] <dr_willis> exalt:   Most intel video cards on netbooks use the same drivers.  could be compiz is too much for it. - see if a lighter desktop is any faster. I tend to use Lubuntu On my netbooks.
[10:00] <flux242> here we go http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.de/2012/06/replace-session-buttons-with-action.html
[10:01] <exalt> dr_willis: i agree it would be faster, but as this is just a clean install it could be bugged...
[10:01] <mote> cfhowlett: so whats wrong? everthing else is online to me
[10:01] <flux242> first two pictures explain what i mean
[10:01] <flux242> it's ethier damn text or one million buttons at once
[10:01] <cfhowlett> mote, any number of possibilities ... try a different browser
[10:03] <mote> cfhowlett, down i two other browsers to. and dif machine to. it's really strange
[10:03] <cfhowlett> mote, down and ALL machines and different browers?  router or isp blocking ...
[10:05] <mote> cfhowlett, phone+laptop+laptop, chromium+Firefox =Down was at askubuntu yesterday. NP.
[10:05] <cfhowlett> mote, dang, man.  I'm in CHINA and I can see it!
[10:05] <mote> cfhowlett. must be some router somewhere that crapped it self. well thanks man.
[10:06] <cfhowlett> mote,  best of luck
[10:06] <mote> cfhowlett, you to.
[10:07] <tangostudio> gjjgfjk
[10:09] <W4RH4WK> hello, whats the recommended way of altering startup procedures done by upstart (no GUI)  just altering the configs using a texteditor?
[10:10] <dr_willis> W4RH4WK:  basically yes. depending on what you need to alter.
[10:10] <dr_willis> upstart has several ways to disable a service.  then theres altereing the .conf files as needed.
[10:10] <W4RH4WK> dr_willis: for example i don't want 'atd' to start automatically
[10:11] <dr_willis> the 'upstart cookbook' mentions like 3 ways to keep a service from starting.
[10:11] <dr_willis> !upstart
[10:12] <W4RH4WK> dr_willis: ok thank you, i will have a look at it
[10:15] <jead> Hey
[10:15] <jead> Tried running: rsync -nav backup-lokal@adress.se:/var/www/adress.se/application/mapp/ but I get the error: "rsync: change_dir "/var/www/site/application/mapp" failed: Permission denied (13)"...what should the rights be?
[10:15] <bekks> jead: Which user are you running rsync at?
[10:17] <jead> bekks: running rsync from user backup @localserver trying to fetch as @backup-lokal on remote
[10:18] <doobadoo> got no sound, alsactl init returns No Soundcards found... how do i find the soundcard in my powermac g5, and force this alsa to load it
[10:20] <bekks> jead: Then check which permissions that user has on /var/www/address.se
[10:20] <Sendoushi> hey guys. when i do service --status-all it lists all of course but as obvious, it doesn't let me go and check the top list. how can i see the services one by one?
[10:20] <Sendoushi> or a way to check the list of service --status-all
[10:22] <savagecroc> is there a way i can search the ppa's for passenger 4.0.0b2?
[10:22] <dr_willis> command | less       Sendoushi
[10:22] <dr_willis> !ppa-search
[10:22] <dr_willis> !info ppa-search
[10:22] <savagecroc> awesome thanks :)
[10:22] <dr_willis> Hmm.. theres a ppa search tool.. smewhere..
[10:23] <dr_willis> !info ppasearch
[10:23] <Sendoushi> dr_willis: hm? how could that help me on the console?
[10:23] <p201> doobado: U need to add some modules. Look there list here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1880477
[10:23] <doobadoo> p201 looking
[10:23] <dr_willis> you pipe long output to more.. so you can read it..  (or to less)
[10:23] <Sendoushi> not really working...
[10:24] <Sendoushi> oh by the way, i'm on server ubuntu
[10:24] <dr_willis> whats not working about it?
[10:24] <savagecroc> dr_willis: yeah i was trying this website https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=4.0.0b1.. but couldn't get it to work
[10:24] <Sendoushi> simply not making anything
[10:24] <p201> doobadoo use modprobe for testing before editing /etc/modules
[10:26] <doobadoo> i am aware of that directory are you talking about the blacklist.conf file therer
[10:26] <tion_> hackers
[10:26] <dr_willis> hazors?
[10:26] <gypsymauro> hi, I've some errors updating packages on ubuntu, it tries to download http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages and it fails, but there are on that site Packages.gz and Packages.bz2 why it doesn't download that?
[10:27] <doobadoo>  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and blacklist.local.conf
[10:28] <doobadoo> oh and btw cat /ctc/modules lists  sd_powerm
[10:28] <doobadoo> oh and btw cat /ctc/modules lists  snd_powermac, apm_emu, and snd-powermac ...but i may have apt-get installed snd-powermac thinking that could make it work
[10:29] <p201> doobado, yep but try to modprobe modules and get sound. After that we'll edit configs
[10:29] <gypsymauro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1027801
[10:30] <ikonia> gypsymauro: look at that link....it's a 404
[10:30] <ikonia> gypsymauro: there is nothing to download
[10:33] <syntroPi> gypsymauro, hmm weird what did you do before it broke like that?
[10:33] <isaias> I keep getting "System Program Problem Detected" at startup
[10:33] <ikonia> he can't break the url
[10:33] <ikonia> the person who hosts the url has a problem
[10:34] <dr_willis> isaias:  the askubuntu.com site had a decent guide on cleaning out old 'apport' error logs and disabling the servive if thats what you want to do. it can be a little over eager in its reporting
[10:35] <isaias> dr_willis: survive is what amy be causing the problem?
[10:35] <syntroPi> ikonia, shouldnt add apt the .gz or bz2 automatically ?  not sure if it would try to load uncompressed?
[10:35] <isaias> may*
[10:38] <syntroPi> ikonia, unfortunately here it obviously did for some reason
[10:40] <ikonia> syntroPi: the url is 404
[10:42] <syntroPi> ikonia, yeah i know but i wanted to learn something about apt: does it normally try to load Packages or Packages.{gz,bz2}?
[10:44] <superdo> hi, could be any problem if I install Mint next to Ubuntu on the same drive? Grub will be extended with Mint or ?
[10:44] <Sendoushi> how can i get the output of all packages and service --status-all inside nano?
[10:44] <Sendoushi> two different files by the way
[10:45] <cfhowlett> superdo, grub should pick up the other distro with no issue.  if you're worried, run mint inside a virtualbox and leave ubuntu alone
[10:45] <superdo> cfhowlett, thanks
[10:46] <cfhowlett> superdo, have fun, be safe
[10:46] <syntroPi> superdo, multiple versions of ubuntu work fine idk abour mint
[10:46] <ktogias-office> Hi
[10:46] <ktogias-office> I have submitted a bug report about multitouch support on a Sony Vaio Duo 11 ultrabook/windows tablet hybrid I purchased recently. The bug report and attached info/log files is at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/1121379. Any guidance in order to further investigate or test fixes will be appreciated.
[10:46] <superdo> best I ask on mint channel :)
[10:47] <dr_willis> you can set up either OS to handle grub superdo
[10:47] <superdo> dr_willis, thx
[10:50] <tad_pole> Anyone alive? :)
[10:50] <dr_willis> Nope. ;p
[10:51] <tad_pole> I am having boot issues and was looking for some incite...
[10:52] <Ohmage> hi guys, iv just got a few questions about installing ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS on a uefi windows 8 preinstalled laptop
[10:52] <dr_willis> Give the channel some details and see. ;)
[10:52] <superdo> dr_willis, so I make space on ubuntu partition, and install Mint, it will probably detect ubuntu/win7 and wont ignore them?
[10:52] <Ohmage> ah mr willis
[10:53] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI   Ohmage have a look
[10:53] <Ohmage> you helped me to fix my ubuntu not displaying windows properly
[10:53] <dr_willis> superdo:  whatever OS id handling grub should see the other os's and add an entry.
[10:53] <Ohmage> bazhang: i am at that page and have been rigourously researching
[10:53] <superdo> ok
[10:54] <Ohmage> theres just a few things i dont fully understand that i want to iron out before i install. firstly does this installer make a efi. bootloader for the grub menu
[10:55] <Ohmage> like will i be able to see both windows and ubuntu to boot from dual boot menu
[10:55] <tad_pole> I have been trying various distros   going to stick with ubunto.. but i messed my MBR's and Partitions up with all my dinking around: I just made new partition tables, clean ubuntustudio install, and it wont boot -  i tried boot-repair howtos      and that is not working   and now i can not get this darn LVM to go away either so I can try a reinstall.  at a loss.
[10:56] <ozy> i'm tryign to install ubuntu 12.10 from a usb stick, and I am not even getting to the grub menu -- I am getting some goffy icon at the bottom of the screen for a few minutes (and usb activity lights) and then it goes to a prompt in the upper left of the screen, becomes unresponsive, and the actiovity light goes stedy
[10:56] <Ohmage> as i have some convoluted issues this is why i was suggesting possibly carrying on some help in a private chat
[10:56] <dr_willis> tad_pole:  i never use lvm, so no idea on those. You  could use dd or gparted on a live cd and try to totally blank the hd. then repartion it
[10:57] <tad_pole> dr_willis: I just did three times. :/
[10:57] <Ohmage> dr_willis: do u mind pm?
[10:57] <dr_willis> ozy:  goofy icon like a  'man = keyboard' ?
[10:57] <tad_pole> Well I tried gparted three times    and dd once
[10:57] <ozy> might be a keyboard = man with circle around it. It's smaller, and low resolution
[10:57] <savagecroc> when calling apt-get --just-print upgrade .. what does it mean when it prefixes it with conf?
[10:57] <dr_willis> I have never used any EFI or windows 8 systems  Ohmage
[10:58] <Ohmage> oh ok dammit lol
[10:58] <tad_pole> I used win8 for about 5 minutes   that was enough for me :/
[10:58] <dr_willis> ozy:  normally you hite the space when you see that icon and it goes to some option screens.
[10:58] <Ohmage> tad_pole: you and me both its why im here..........
[10:59] <ozy> dr_willis: thanks, i'll try that. Nothing like a little black voodo, eh?
[10:59] <tad_pole> Oddly enough I was trying to help the person figure it out but found out there spiffy new laptop had broken keys
[10:59] <ozy> dr_willis: hit space bar, nothing happened
[11:00] <Ohmage> ok so yes anyone who is well versed in installing ubuntu on a win8 preinstalled uefi systems wud be greatly appreciated
[11:01] <Ohmage> as i have googled and googled and found no definitive confirmations of things i am trying to figure out
[11:02] <schuschu> hi everybody! could someone point me to a up-to-date guide on full disk encryption with keyfile on a usk-key in ubuntu 12.10? (i know how to do it in arch but ubuntu seems to require a custom script to mount to usb-key...)
[11:02] <tad_pole> dr_willis: Do you happen to know how to force a umount?
[11:03] <dr_willis> tad_pole:  the mount command has a --force option i belive..
[11:03] <dr_willis> or the umount command. ;)
[11:03] <ozy> dr_willis: it'[s enter
[11:07] <ejv> Ohmage: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[11:07] <tad_pole> dr_willis: For reference: #lvs displays all LVM groups  lvremove "lvmname to delete found in lvs output" deletes them.   YAY :/
[11:07] <dr_willis> i neer use lvm ;)
[11:08] <tad_pole> I plan to follow your lead.. A bit late :/
[11:08] <Ohmage> thanks evm that is another link i have read extensively as well, really im looking for someone i could ask some specific questions who has booted and installed on a win 8 machine
[11:09] <tad_pole> What specific questions? Maybe I can find you some answers
[11:09] <ejv> Ohmage: private messaging individuals is taboo here, best to just ask the channel and pray someone knowledgeable on the subject sees and chimes in; meanwhile you can make a post on the ubuntu forums
[11:09] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com is good also. ;)
[11:10] <Ohmage> ok thanks for the heads up, im a little nooby round these parts (and intend to change that soon enough) :P
[11:11] <ejv> the entire secure boot idea is just nonsense imho; more headaches for everyone
[11:11] <dr_willis> a system that cant boot is the most secure! ;)
[11:11] <|nv|s|b|e> lol
[11:12] <tad_pole> To bad people keep purchasing the crap.
[11:12] <Ohmage> yes it totally is just a barrier made by MS/intel/whoever decides to be evilest
[11:12] <Ohmage> lmao
[11:12] <tad_pole> *points at Ohmage*
[11:13]  * Ohmage wonders why @tad_pole :/
[11:13] <tad_pole> Purchasing microsoft/intel/whoever decides to be evilest's crappy locked hardware :)
[11:14] <ejv> what is a logical recourse? buying UEFI mobo's with early enough firmware that haven't introduced secure boot? are any vendors simply going to write UEFI firmware without it at all? i'd support that with my wallet.
[11:15] <Ohmage> ejv it seems though that with the Linux Foundation signed bootloader or SHIM loader that it can all be negated to a degree, its just made the whole thing a lot less user friendly
[11:15] <MatthewL> !chmod | ubottu
[11:16] <ejv> didn't answer my question Ohmage :)
[11:16] <tad_pole> The most simple logical decision would be to purchase something else, or wait it out.
[11:17] <ejv> define else
[11:17] <cfhowlett> Perhaps a discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic???
[11:17] <Ciko> #ubuntuusers,#ubuntu-de,#xchat
[11:17] <tad_pole> ejv: Anything you can google that fits the bill.
[11:17] <gypsymauro> ikonia: syntroPi sorry phone, well nothing related with apt-get and that bugs seems what I discovered
[11:17] <tad_pole> cfhowlett: True. Sorry. :0
[11:17] <dr_willis> i imagine i will be sticking with ARM based PCs in the near future. ;)
[11:17] <Ohmage> ejv: im a noob dude lol how could i answer it :P secure boot really isnt that massive a deal, in my UEFI/bios menu whatever it is called i just went secure boot:disabled
[11:17] <Ohmage> really secure -_-
[11:18] <ejv> ehhh it's ubuntu related, i need to know what to buy, i'll be installing ubuntu on it after-all; compatability is a support issue ;)
[11:18] <Ohmage> also windows arm based are TOTALLY locked down now from what i read
[11:18] <Ohmage> way to go...
[11:19] <tad_pole> Off to reinstall, wish me luck :/
[11:19] <MatthewL> !security |	ubottu
[11:19] <MatthewL> !server | ubottu
[11:20] <ejv> example, im shopping and looking at the MSI Z77A-G43 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 mobo, that has UEFI, am I to understand that installing Ubuntu on this thing is going to be "not easy" ?
[11:21] <ejv> or will it depend on the version of the firmware of the Z77A-G43 ? see what I'm getting at?
[11:21] <dr_willis> may be a good idea to see what ubuntu/linux hardware sites sell.
[11:21] <schuschu> secureboot on x86 systems can still be disabled, single components typically have it off anyway... at least my z77 board never gave me troubles
[11:21] <MatthewL> !UEFI |	ubottu
[11:21] <cfhowlett> ejv, uefi installs are seemingly ALL a little iffy at the moment.  I'd avoid Samsung as that seems to be the most breakable model at the moment, but be aware that the uefi bug(?) HAS been reproduced with win8
[11:22] <ejv> hmm
[11:23] <linuxuz3r_> hi ho hello
[11:23] <cfhowlett> linuxuz3r_, greetings
[11:23] <ejv> guess i'll just have to try it and see, which is not the answer i wanted, but c'est la vie
[11:24] <MatthewL> !Fedora | ubottu
[11:24] <ozy> how do you start the installer fromt he command line on the live cd?
[11:24] <cfhowlett> ejv, best of luck
[11:24] <Ohmage> for a standard user with little linux experience what sort of file system should i format a partition to for ubuntu install?? ext4
[11:24] <cfhowlett> Ohmage, ext4
[11:24] <Ohmage> thanks
[11:25] <cfhowlett> Ohmage, no problem
[11:25] <ejv> cfhowlett: thanks, i haven't bought anything yet, im going to pour through some reviews on amazon/newegg and see if anyone tried ubuntu on the various models.
[11:25] <ejv> i want the path of least resistance.
[11:25] <Sendoushi> is there a way to swap characters or something? i'm using ubuntu server on a vm under mac os and i can't get [] nor {} since both use the left Alt of the keyboard. Tried to map it to AltGr but don't work also. The rest of keyboard (besides altGr) seems fine to me
[11:25] <cfhowlett> ejv, I think there might be a wiki somewhere.  also see the !hardware listings
[11:25] <cfhowlett> !hardware
[11:26] <Josssse> Hello Guys. When I installe ubuntu I had to set the nomodeset boot option in order not to get a black screen. Now that i've finished installation, when i boot, i get the same black screen. How can i force ubuntu to always start with the nomodeset option?? Thanks a lot.
[11:26] <ejv> lol socket 1155 isn't even listed on that site
[11:26] <ejv> good grief ;)
[11:26] <MatthewL> !wow
[11:27] <dr_willis> Josssse:   you can edit the /etc/default/grub to make nomodeset a default item.
[11:27] <Ohmage> ejv the only issue i see relating to any of it is the bootloader issue, installing running and booting live ubunut was easy enough for me and i have no experience other than light use. once there is a easy way to have gru2 bootloader show all os' on dual boot i see no real issues
[11:27] <ms_> I have Windows trying to install Ubuntu. I have deleted my C drive as instructed, what do I do from here
[11:28] <Alexio> ciao
[11:28] <Alexio> !list
[11:28] <KristisB> Hello, can I download the whole folder from one.ubuntu.com instead of downloading files one by one?
[11:28] <cfhowlett> ms_, unclear.   Are you installing ubuntu next to windows?
[11:28] <ejv> my understanding is the secure boot monkey business was introduced into UEFI much later; so there has to be older UEFI mobo's in production and being sold by vendors that I can get my hands on, circumventing the entire sillyness.
[11:28] <Josssse> thanks dr_willis . I'll try to do that. Do you know the line i should put to make nomodeset a default item?
[11:29] <dr_willis> JoseeAntonioR:  stick nomodeset btween quiet splash, and rerun update-grub
[11:29] <Alexio> ciao
[11:29] <Alexio> !list
[11:29] <MatthewL> !Microsoft
[11:29] <dr_willis> Alexio:  what are yu expecting to get from your !list ing exactly?
[11:30] <Josssse> Thanks!!
[11:30] <Alexio> ciao
[11:30] <Alexio> !list
[11:30] <Ohmage> yes its probably fine if you dont want or need a really new computer but i think now all new uefi machines with the higher speccs come like this unless untouched by windows.. im not 100%
[11:30] <MatthewL> wow
[11:30] <DJones> !bot | MatthewL If you've got a lot of factoids to check, its probably better to use /msg ubottu !factoid so it responds via pm, or use the web interface in ubottu's links
[11:30] <dr_willis> Alexio:  what are yu expecting to get from your !list ing exactly?........
[11:31] <anybody_> irc://IrC.DeViLiRC.OrG/PapRiKa
[11:31] <MatthewL> DJones - thanks
[11:31] <dr_willis> anybody_:  huh? Do  You have a ubuntu support question?
[11:31] <ejv> thanks for the input cheers
[11:31] <ikonia> gypsymauro: the url you are trying to connect to is invalid
[11:32]  * cfhowlett what the boone hill farm is that?
[11:32] <ejv> ( that feeling when you really didn't walk away with more knowledge than when you started :D )
[11:32] <ejv> ;p
[11:32] <bignono1> can i use jwm in buntu?
[11:33] <Ohmage> is it allowed to create a channel to talk to someone? or is this also taboo
[11:33] <dr_willis> bignono1:  its in the repos.. so yes.
[11:33] <bignono1> in the repo?
[11:33] <dr_willis> Ohmage:  make all the channels you want.
[11:33] <xDesu> Ohmage /msg <name>
[11:33] <dr_willis> !info jwm | bignono1
[11:33] <Ohmage> cool
[11:33] <ejv> Ohmage: the reason you should ask in here, is because the collective benefits from transparent support
[11:33] <bignono1> thanks dr_willis
[11:33] <joesh> What chmod / chown should I use for everyone to be able to read?
[11:34] <ejv> !chmod | joesh
[11:34] <DJones> !pm | Ohmage Be aware that if you want to message somebody directly, you should ask first,
[11:34] <Ohmage> no worries
[11:35] <ejv> please don't set everything to 777 or some insanity joesh; that's a good way to brick your installation
[11:35] <joesh> ejv: that is why I am looking in the guide =)
[11:35] <joesh> I know 777 is for everything.. but that includes write.. I just want read
[11:35] <wdp> errm.
[11:36] <Ohmage> ejv: pm if u dont mind? little chat about the whole uefi thing
[11:36] <MatthewL> !jwm | MatthewL
[11:36] <MatthewL> What is jwm?
[11:36] <joesh> ejv: chmod 775 is what I'll use? read and execute?
[11:37] <wdp> I'm trying to let xfce4 start automatically. but somehow it always starts gnome automatically. In the login manager I've set xfce as default session. Sadly I don't remember how I configured the automatic start (and login) of gnome some years ago.
[11:37] <ejv> 775 says to give user, everything, group everything, and world, read and execute; that's not what you want.
[11:37] <cfhowlett> wdp, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[11:37] <dr_willis> joesh:  its worth the 10 min.. reading up on chmod and what the #'s mean.
[11:37] <wdp> cfhowlett, just updated that, so current.
[11:38] <cfhowlett> wdp, so 12.10 ... weird behavior.   whatever you login with should set the default for next time ...
[11:38] <MatthewL> Cool beans | ubottu
[11:38] <wdp> cfhowlett, indeed. Wondering if there is any other way to achieve what i want to do. probably another login manager which would do that?
[11:38] <Alexio> ciao
[11:38] <Alexio> !list
[11:39] <Sendoushi> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/12956435/screen.png which layout should i use for altgr? i can't get [ ] nor { }
[11:39] <ejv> because third time is a charm
[11:39] <dr_willis> Alexio:  do you even read what people say?
[11:39] <larst> Hi all
[11:39] <Alexio> ciao
[11:39] <cfhowlett> wdp, apt-get install lxde ... but I'm more concerned with this fail.  test it out ...
[11:39] <Alexio> !list
[11:39] <cfhowlett> ALEXIO!~  no warez here.  wrong channel.
[11:39] <wdp> cfhowlett, lxde is a DE - I want to use xfce, not lxde.
[11:39] <dr_willis> Alexio:   try /list
[11:40] <cfhowlett> wdp, ?? xfce is also a DE, no?
[11:40] <Josssse> dr_willis, Since i had to boot from livecd I had to use the grub-mkconfig -o /media/.... to run the actual update-grub command. But i get an error: cannot finde a device for  is /dev mounted?
[11:40] <Josssse> What could I do?
[11:40] <Naphatul> is there a way for me to see boot time's and a breakdown?
[11:41] <dr_willis> Josssse:  you can use the rescue/recovery mode to get into the system. or  at the grub menu - edit it. to add the 'nomodeset' option the first time.. then edit the /etc/default/grub file
[11:41] <larst> Should i pick 12.10 or 12.04?
[11:41] <ShukkoO> how can i make a hotkey, so that i can open the terminal by f.ex pressing "ctrl+r".
[11:41] <dr_willis> larst:  you want latest versionof packages... or long term support.
[11:41] <dr_willis> ShukkoO:  alt-ctrl-t ooens a terminal.
[11:42] <Josssse> dr_willis, How do i acess grub menu or recovery mode??
[11:42] <larst> Dr_willis not sure
[11:42] <dr_willis> Josssse:   when you boot up - you see the grub menu. hit e
[11:42] <dr_willis> !grub2
[11:42] <Naphatul> Josssse, pres ESC on boot
[11:42] <dr_willis> or press/hold shift... if its hidden
[11:43] <larst> !lts
[11:43] <larst> !precise
[11:44] <Josssse> Swee, thanks a lot guys!
[11:44] <Josssse> This would do it.
[11:44] <dr_willis> last time i needed nomodset.. i just had to use it once.. then get  the nvidia drivers installed.
[11:45] <Ohmage> dr_willis: would u say that ubuntu is the best out of box distro to make best use of a laptop and its batttery ?
[11:45] <larst> Dr_willis what would  you pick
[11:46] <dr_willis> larst:  i always use the latest.. i dont have much need for lts features
[11:46] <dr_willis> Ohmage:  newer releases alwaos have newer drivers and so forth
[11:47] <Joupi> larst : If you are on company or production environment, prefer LTS for stability, else at home I guess you would go for last one ...
[11:47] <Ohmage> yes but i mean in terms of the best linux distros relating to resource management on laptops, my new machine when on win8 full charge has roughly 5 hours life, on fedora 18 it was 2 at best
[11:48] <Ohmage> dr_willis: just wondering if what i read about ubuntu was true that is the best distro for laptops
[11:48] <ikonia> Ohmage: that is incorrect
[11:48] <ikonia> Ohmage: that's probably down to poor apci support in linux, no distro will make a difference
[11:48] <ikonia> Ubuntu is no better/worse than the other main distribtuions
[11:48] <Ohmage> ok
[11:49] <Ohmage> thats what i thought, it must be just a matter of what you have on the system within the distro
[11:49] <ikonia> Ohmage: no
[11:49] <mpma> Good afternoon
[11:49] <Ohmage> ok
[11:51] <cfhowlett> mpma, greeting
[11:54] <vcsy> hello.
[11:54] <cfhowlett> vcsy, greetings
[11:54] <geoffw8_> hey ubuntu! I have a folder with 777 permissions, but when Sphinx creates files it creates them using its own permissions
[11:55] <geoffw8_> how can I make it so that permissions are enforced?
[11:55] <larst> Hi vcsy
[11:55] <geoffw8_> no amount of Googling is helping me
[11:55] <l2k3> Hi :)
[11:55] <larst> Hi l2k3
[11:55] <cfhowlett> l2k3, greetings
[11:56] <setre> How can I hide/toggle the launcher in Ubuntu 13.04?
[11:56] <ikonia> 13.04 is not supported yet
[11:56] <setre> I see
[11:56] <mpma> isn
[11:56] <ikonia> setre: it's in pre-release state, #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[11:56] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|setre,
[11:56] <mpma> isn't it just under System settings -> Behavior?
[11:56] <setre> how far from release?
[11:56] <setre> mpma: no it's not there
[11:56] <cfhowlett> setre, again see the channel ubuntu+1
[11:57] <setre> cfhowlett: roger
[11:57] <setre> any guess on how far from 13.04 being released?
[11:57] <mpma> april
[11:57] <tad-pole> >:)
[11:57] <mpma> setre: 13.04 will be released in arpil
[11:58] <mpma> april**
[11:58] <setre> thanks
[11:58] <mpma> hence the ".04" meaning the fourth month of the year
[11:58] <dr_willis> setre:   the version # IS the year/month of release
[11:58] <mpma> and ".10" being the tenth mouth
[11:58] <Joupi> setre : 13=2013 ; 04=april
[11:58] <setre> I see
[11:58] <mpma> mind = blown
[11:58] <setre> like windows 98
[11:58] <mpma> :D
[11:58] <mpma> yes, exactly like windows 98
[11:58] <tad-pole> What about windows 2000?~!?"
[11:58] <setre> learn from the master
[11:59] <dr_willis> ahh... the year 2000.. when every silly app had to have 2000 or 2k in the name...
[11:59] <dr_willis> These days it seems everything has to have 'HD' in the name
[11:59] <setre> dr_willis: hopefully we will not be around for "the year 3000"
[12:00] <dr_willis> Phear the Y3K bug!
[12:00] <wdp> dr_willis, in a half year everything will have VR in it's name.
[12:00] <setre> that sounds about right
[12:01] <setre> or whatever scrumjax word will become associated with google glass and the like
[12:01] <wdp> heh.
[12:01] <setre> you *are* using "Ajax" right?
[12:01] <dr_willis> I clean my sinks with ajax cleaner...
[12:01] <wdp> rofl
[12:02] <setre> and SCRUM
[12:02] <dr_willis> SOAP
[12:02] <setre> it seems buzzword creators are obssessed with cleaning related words
[12:03] <dr_willis> ExpressoSoap2k
[12:05] <cellanwilliams> if i want to dual partition ubuntu on my mac, is it best to partition first or partition on installation?
[12:05] <dr_willis> Shouldent matter either way cellanwilliams .
[12:06] <tad-pole> dualboot*
[12:06] <cellanwilliams> coolio thanks <dr_willis>
[12:07] <cfhowlett> cellanwilliams, do you have the installation tutorial from the wiki for this procedure?
[12:10] <mpma> will everyone make the switch to 13.04 on release-day?
[12:10] <dr_willis> mpma:  i imagine thats a 'no' ;)
[12:10] <cfhowlett> mpma, LTS only ...
[12:10] <dr_willis> since the servers couldent handle the load..
[12:10] <mpma> cfhowlett: 13.04 will be LTS?
[12:10]  * cfhowlett thinks point releases are a better bet in any case
[12:10] <dr_willis> !lts
[12:10] <cfhowlett> mpma, it will NOT.
[12:11] <dr_willis> 13.04 is not a LTS release
[12:11] <mpma> i thought every .04 was LTS
[12:11] <tad-pole> I like rice.
[12:11] <cfhowlett> mpma, you were misinformed
[12:11] <mpma> cfhowlett: so LTS only switches in 5 year intervals
[12:11] <cfhowlett> mpma, 12.04 at present.  14.04 is the next LTS
[12:11] <cfhowlett> mpma, no, SUPPORT is for 5 years.  release is every 2 years presently.
[12:12] <mpma> cfhowlett: I see
[12:12] <DJones> mpma: LTS versions are released every two years and are supported for 3 years on desktop, 5 years on server versions
[12:12] <dr_willis> 12.04 is special. ;)
[12:12] <cfhowlett> ops the ubottu factoid for LTS is incorrect in stating that support is for 3 years on the desktop
[12:13] <dr_willis> 'with the exception of....'
[12:13] <dr_willis> they gave 12.04 a longer term.
[12:13] <mpma> what version are you guys running now?
[12:13] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, ah.  I thought all future LTS went to 5 years.  good to know.
[12:13] <mpma> <-- 12.04
[12:14] <dr_willis> 5 years is like half a decade in computer years... ;P
[12:14] <dr_willis> 5 years from now.. who knows what we will be running..  64 core arm based desktop machines that only use 1W of powar.. ;P
[12:15] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, 128 bit wrist mounted retina enabled mid-air projection with sight/scent emulation ...
[12:16] <tad-pole> Or sticks and rocks. :)
[12:16] <mpma> what versions are you guys running?
[12:16] <mpma> anyone comfortable with 12.10?
[12:17] <sakkemo> <- 12.10, couldn't get wifi to work with 12.04 (Lenovo E130)
[12:17] <cfhowlett> mpma, several people are.  I prefer not to deal with install issues every 6 months, so LTS works fine for me.
[12:17] <sakkemo> didn't spend that much time trying as it worked out-of-box with 12.10
[12:17] <mpma> tried 12.10 yesterday, horrible performance issues
[12:18] <mpma> and propieraty drivers (spelling) kept crashing the machine
[12:18] <cfhowlett> mpma, bleeding edge is bloody ...
[12:18] <tad-pole> I just installed 12.10
[12:18] <cfhowlett> mpma, one more iota of reason to go with LTS ...
[12:19] <tad-pole> Well, 12.10 studio.
[12:19] <Joupi> mpma : the version you choose really depends on what you want ... newer versions provide latest apps, but might be bug updates full whereas LTS are usually more stable afetr a short while (2 to 3 months running)
[12:19] <cfhowlett> tad-pole, with all the restricted-extras I trust?
[12:20] <tad-pole> I literally just installed it ;/
[12:20] <ozy> I am trying to install 12.10 server, and I keep getting 'unable to install busybox-initramfs' -- any ideas? google came up short...
[12:20] <cfhowlett> tad-pole, ok.  well for full codec support apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extra
[12:20] <cfhowlett> tad-pole, ok.  well for full codec support apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:21] <cfhowlett> tad-pole, and take a peek at medibuntu.
[12:21] <tad-pole> cfhowlett: Thanks! :)   I living off of my mobile connection ATM so I will do that tomorrow :)
[12:22] <tad-pole> I am* living... rather
[12:22] <cfhowlett> tad-pole, don't forget to check out the ubuntustudio forums and #ubuntustudio   on IRC
[12:22] <louis-pc> hallo lirk
[12:22] <louis-pc> hallo lirk
[12:22] <Lirk> hi
[12:22] <tad-pole> Stupid SprintPCS keeps dropping me down to bytes a second.
[12:22] <tad-pole> just apt-get update is taking forever
[12:22] <louis-pc> i am dutch
[12:22] <Guest46015> Hello, I would like to make a custom icon for a file type. I tried what I could find on Google, including this:
[12:22] <Guest46015> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingMimeTypes
[12:22] <Guest46015> I am using quantal.
[12:23] <mpma> !quantal
[12:24] <tad-pole> Only thing I miss about college: amazing bandwidth. :(
[12:31] <HeadCrash> ....................../´¯/)
[12:31] <HeadCrash> ....................,/¯../
[12:31] <HeadCrash> .................../..../
[12:31] <HeadCrash> ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸
[12:31] <FloodBot1> HeadCrash: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:32] <HeadCrash> hello
[12:32] <HeadCrash> can anybody help
[12:32] <dr_willis> with?
[12:32] <cfhowlett> HeadCrash, ask with details ...
[12:32] <HeadCrash> anybody familiar here with apache jmeter?
[12:32] <tad-pole> cfhowlett: When Installing studio I clicked the box for installing the proprietary codecs       is that the same as "apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras" ?
[12:33] <cfhowlett> tad-pole, that
[12:33] <tad-pole> ?
[12:33] <cfhowlett> tad-pole, that'll get you the mp3 codec only
[12:34] <tad-pole> OIC, Alright thanks for the extra info, Ill have to download that all then.
[12:34] <cfhowlett> tad-pole, I don't know how to display the contents of a meta-package ...
[12:34] <HeadCrash> cfhowlett
[12:34] <HeadCrash> i have PM to you
[12:34] <HeadCrash> can you reply for that?
[12:35] <cfhowlett> HeadCrash, nope.  keep it in channel please
[12:35] <HeadCrash> cfhowlett please
[12:35] <tad-pole> HeadCrash: I like rice.
[12:35] <HeadCrash> i need to ask that in pm please for a minute
[12:35] <cfhowlett> HeadCrash, bad form to pm without permission
[12:35] <HeadCrash> tad-pole...i'll give you grain
[12:35] <cfhowlett> HeadCrash, in channnel
[12:35] <HeadCrash> ok....
[12:36] <HeadCrash> then shall i ask?
[12:36] <cfhowlett> !ask
[12:36] <HeadCrash> ubottu
[12:36] <cfhowlett> HeadCrash, sad to say, I know nothing of jmeter ...
[12:36] <HeadCrash> do you know apache jmeter
[12:36] <HeadCrash> ok...
[12:36] <HeadCrash> but i have another question
[12:36] <HeadCrash> shall i ask
[12:36] <FelixTheCat> I am trying to install Ubuntu but get "marking tsc unstable due to tsc halts in idle" followed by "clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -1761805988 ns) and now it just sits at a busybox prompt
[12:36] <FelixTheCat> please help me install ubuntu
[12:36] <cfhowlett> HeadCrash, ask it here
[12:37] <HeadCrash> is your father a jerk?
[12:37] <cfhowlett> HeadCrash, i'm disappointed in your poor judgement
[12:37] <dr_willis> how to not get help on irc.....
[12:37] <tad-pole> How to not get anything good period. He started it all off with a middle finger :/
[12:37]  * cfhowlett as if flipping the bird in his ascii display wasn't enought
[12:38]  * cfhowlett moving on.
[12:38] <tad-pole> cfhowlett: !
[12:38] <dr_willis> was that what it was? ;)
[12:38] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, you there?
[12:38] <cfhowlett> oh, ya'll didn't see the profane insults he put on the pm to me
[12:39] <tad-pole> cfhowlett http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu-restricted-extras     Just incase you ever need the resource    it lists the contents.
[12:39] <cfhowlett> tad-pole, nice.  thanks.   So will that package help you out?
[12:39] <FelixTheCat> cfhowlett: yes
[12:39] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, is this a clean install you're doing or an upgrade?
[12:40] <tad-pole> cfhowlett Very much so. I was using linuxmint do to codec issues.
[12:40] <user1_> #bookz
[12:41] <cfhowlett> tad-pole, I installed medibuntu and restricted-extras.
[12:41] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever j had codec issues on normal ubuntu.
[12:41] <dr_willis> Not needed to use Medibuntu in ages...
[12:41] <FelixTheCat> cfhowlett: upgrade from puppy
[12:41] <tad-pole> I like to look at wierd things. ;)
[12:41] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, I think medibuntu pulls in one or 2 codecs that restricted misses ...
[12:42] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, I HOPE that means you're doing a clean install of ubuntu ... cause you can't upgrade puppy to ubuntu
[12:42] <dr_willis> cant say ive enocountered any codecs  ive needed medibuntu for.
[12:42] <dr_willis> at least not in a long time
[12:43] <FelixTheCat> cfhowlett: yeah i'm just trying to install ubuntu over the top of puppy (wipe puppy, get ubuntu)
[12:43] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, ok that makes sense.  that's an unfamiliar error you got.  did you md5sum verify the iso you downloaded??
[12:44] <FelixTheCat> cfhowlett: it was, back when i downloaded it
[12:44] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, and you burned an iso/usb?
[12:44] <FelixTheCat> 10.4 beta i do beleve
[12:44] <FelixTheCat> cfhowlett: yes
[12:45] <tad-pole> FelixTheCat why are you using 10.4 beta?
[12:45] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, wait, you're booting beta?  latest LTS ubuntu is 12.04, latest interim is 12.10.  choose one
[12:45] <FelixTheCat> tad-pole: only install cd i have
[12:46] <tad-pole> Order a new one if you can not download?
[12:46] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, of COURSE beta is going to do strange things ...
[12:46] <dr_willis> or use a usb flash. ;)
[12:46] <FelixTheCat> cfhowlett: it says (on busybox prompt) ubuntu 1:1.2-2ubuntu6
[12:47] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, sorry, but I have to bail from this discussion ... 10.04 beta?  not worth discussing IMHO
[12:47] <tad-pole> dr_willis I was assuming he just cant download an iso. but true.
[12:47] <tad-pole> FelixTheCat You need to get a current version   or atleast a stable one
[12:47] <FelixTheCat> well, the question is, tad-pole  cfhowlett  ect will it run on that old laptop
[12:47] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, note ... 10.04 is end of life quite shortly ...
[12:48] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, you didn't specify your hardware ... or I didn't see it.  that said, lubuntu or xubuntu are both optimized for old and low spec machines.
[12:48] <tad-pole> FelixTheCat They have distro's specifically for legacy hardware I believe
[12:49] <FelixTheCat> cfhowlett: its a sony vaio pcg-n505sn
[12:49] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, try lubuntu or xubuntu 12.04
[12:50]  * tad-pole smiles
[12:50] <k2ai> hello
[12:51] <tad-pole> Hi.
[12:51] <cfhowlett> k2ai, greetings
[12:51] <FelixTheCat> cfhowlett: xbuntu 12.10 ?
[12:51] <tad-pole> FelixTheCat: xubuntu.org
[12:51] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, I'd suggest 12.04 for the Long Term Support but go with 12.10 if you'd rather ...
[12:51] <bekks> FelixTheCat: 12.04
[12:52] <Ciko> #ubuntu-de
[12:52] <k2ai> does Ubuntu still have heating problem on mobile ivy bridge processor?
[12:52] <nkl_> someone want to help me to make usb bootable i spent all morning and all failed
[12:52] <histo> FelixTheCat: What kind of specs is that laptop?
[12:52] <tad-pole> nkl_ Download unetbootin and use that
[12:52] <tad-pole> It works great for me.
[12:52] <histo> !requirements | FelixTheCat
[12:53] <FelixTheCat> cfhowlett: we're talking about 15 year old laptop here (the type with an external cd-rom drive with a card)
[12:53] <nkl_> i can not use unebootin, i am on debian chrunchbang distro
[12:53] <nkl_> tad-pole,
[12:53] <ThinkT510> k2ai: when was the last time you tried?
[12:53] <bekks> nkl_: Why cant you use unetbootin then?
[12:53] <nkl_> i dont have it in repo
[12:53] <k2ai> 2 days back
[12:53] <cfhowlett> FelixTheCat, all I can say is try. xubunt and lubuntu might surprise you ...
[12:53] <ThinkT510> k2ai: which version?
[12:53] <k2ai> 12.10
[12:54] <tad-pole> nkl_  http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all&keywords=unetbootin
[12:54] <nkl_> bekks, i see it now.
[12:54] <nkl_> sorry
[12:54] <histo> k2ai: Which heating problem?
[12:54] <nkl_> tad-pole, and bekks is the first drive when i type fdisk -l said: sdc1 and sdc
[12:54] <nkl_> which one?
[12:54] <ThinkT510> k2ai: that is the most recent stable release, perhaps wait till 13.04 is released
[12:55] <FelixTheCat> histo: about 720mb of ram or 512
[12:55] <bekks> nkl_: I dont get your question. What are you doing, what do you want to do?
[12:55] <tad-pole> He wants to know wich is the usb mount
[12:55] <k2ai> histo: I don't know my laptop always runs unbeareably hot
[12:55] <tad-pole> I do not know.
[12:55] <nkl_> bekks, i want to make bootable usb for ubuntu 10.04 just that! :(((
[12:56] <histo> FelixTheCat: I would definately recomend xubuntu or lubuntu 32bit then.
[12:56] <tad-pole> nkl_ Download unetbootin
[12:56] <tad-pole> It will do it for you
[12:56] <nkl_> tad-pole, bekks i installed unetbootin
[12:56] <histo> !usb | nkl_
[12:56] <bekks> nkl_: And how is that related to fdisk -l then?
[12:57] <nkl_> bekks, fdisk -l:
[12:57] <tad-pole> nkl_ the choice it shows by default if you have usb mounted should work
[12:57] <cfhowlett> nkl_, 10.04 desktop is end of life in a matter of weeks.
[12:57] <nkl_> Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table
[12:57] <nkl_> Disk /dev/sdc: 2045 MB,<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes
[12:57] <k2ai> ThinkT510: I think i should wait till 13.04
[12:57] <tad-pole> nkl_ Use gparted to make a new partition table on usb
[12:57] <nkl_> cfhowlett, 10.04 still rule!
[12:57] <bekks> nkl_: Why are you trying to run fdisk -l? What do you want to do? What that sdc, some USB drive?
[12:57] <cfhowlett> nkl_, OK ... on your head, then ...
[12:58] <nkl_> omg why is that complicated!! why gparted now :(
[12:58] <histo> k2ai: Or you can search askubuntu for a solution to your problem since no one here knows
[12:58] <nkl_> sdc is usb bekks
[12:58] <histo> k2ai: You have a common laptop model so i'm sure someone else would have experienced what you are if it's a bug.
[12:58] <tad-pole> nkl_ Gotta pay the cost to be the boss. If it is easy it is not worth it :)
[12:58] <tad-pole> Unless its a female and im drunk. then its worth it.
[12:58] <k2ai> thanks
[12:59] <nkl_> tad-pole, i must to start gparted with sudo?
[12:59] <k2ai> histo:  ok i'll google it
[12:59] <histo> wow didn't listen very well.
[12:59] <kingbeast> hey guys trying to port a router out through my ethernet port on my laptop, can anyone help
[12:59] <nkl_> sudo gparted: unalloacted
[13:00] <histo> kingbeast: What?
[13:00] <tad-pole> nkl_ ?
[13:00] <nkl_> dev/sdc 1.91 gb unallocated
[13:00] <ThinkT510> !gksudo | nkl_
[13:00] <histo> nkl_: open gparted create a parititon on /dev/sdc   format it for fat32.  Then use unetbootin be done and happy
[13:00] <kingbeast> trying to use the ethernet port on my laptop to use my wireless to a wired router
[13:01] <tad-pole> histo Agreed!
[13:01] <histo> kingbeast: that makes absolutely no sense
[13:01] <histo> kingbeast: ethernet > wireless > wired??? wth?
[13:01] <kingbeast> old xbox
[13:01] <tad-pole> histo: I think he wants to tap his wifi access from laptop over to a wired router connected to NOTwireless devices
[13:01] <kingbeast> no wireless
[13:02] <histo> kingbeast: Please in english eplain what you want to do.
[13:02] <histo> s/eplain/explain/
[13:02] <kingbeast> wireless router>laptop>wired router>xbox
[13:02] <tad-pole> kingbeast http://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-Universal-Ethernet-Adapter-GWU627/dp/B004UAKCS6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1360587736&sr=8-2&keywords=ethernet+to+wireless  buy that
[13:02] <nkl_> why i dont have in gparted 'format' option?
[13:02] <nkl_> it is still unallocated
[13:03] <cfhowlett> nkl_, select the area you want to format first ...
[13:03] <histo> nkl_: delete whatever partition is on /dev/sdc   then create a new one. Then select type as fat32
[13:03] <tad-pole> He has no wifi on xbox  only eth   wants to plug his laptop into xbox to get internet
[13:03] <histo> !ics | kingbeast
[13:03] <nkl_> histo, primary partition or extended?
[13:03]  * cfhowlett bought a $30 wifi adapter JUST for the xbox.  worked fine ...
[13:04] <histo> nkl_: primary
[13:04]  * histo says ics would work just the same
[13:04] <tad-pole> cfhowlett  thats what i gave him a link for, I use them on copy machines instead of a $1000 service charge for an upgraded network card
[13:04] <nkl_> ok, histo now it is green
[13:05] <nkl_> so, now to continue with unetbootin?
[13:05] <histo> nkl_: did you tell it to do fat32?
[13:05] <nkl_> yes 32
[13:05] <nkl_> fat
[13:05] <nkl_> new partition #1 fat 32
[13:05] <histo> nkl_: now write teh changes exit gparted. Then fire up unetbootin and be done.
[13:05] <nkl_> histo, how to write?
[13:06] <histo> nkl_: The green checkbox I believe is apply
[13:06] <nkl_> aply all operattion?
[13:06] <histo> nkl_: yes
[13:06] <nkl_> hist :(( an error...
[13:06] <ncp_> nkl_, haven't follow your issue, but i always boot livecd when i need to partition anything..
[13:06] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys, Where i can find ubuntu kernel release notice please guide me
[13:07] <cfhowlett> !kernel|dhanasekaran,
[13:07] <histo> nkl_: Well i can't really guess what your error is so perhaps you can enlighten us.
[13:07] <nkl_> histo, i must to start from the begining
[13:07] <nkl_> wait a sec..
[13:08] <tad-pole> nkl_ Open gparted again, highlight your usb device, click Device>Create New Partition Table    Right click on your unallocated usb device  click New       make a fat32 partition of the full size of USB device
[13:08] <tad-pole> nkl_ Then click apply(green check)
[13:08] <dhanasekaran> cfhowlett: I want release notes, What are the changes are done, current and previous version of kernel
[13:08] <cfhowlett> dhanasekaran, see #ubuntu-devel for developer talk
 www.ubuntu.org(com?) and search in there search box
[13:09] <nkl_> An error occurred while applying the operations
[13:09] <nkl_> See the details for more information.
[13:09] <nkl_> IMPORTANT
[13:09] <nkl_> If you want support, you need to provide the saved details!
[13:09] <nkl_> See http://gparted.org/save-details.htm for more information.
[13:09] <PrincessLuna> To boot with UEFI secure boot on a Win8 system, Kubuntu 12.10 AMD 64 should work right?
[13:09] <nkl_> and i have button ok
[13:10] <tad-pole> nkl_ Do that then? :P
[13:10] <cfhowlett> PrincessLuna, "should" ...
[13:10] <histo> !uefi | PrincessLuna
[13:10] <dhanasekaran> cfhowlett: thanks
[13:10] <nkl_> when i press ok, i still have /dev/sdc1 unknown
[13:11] <cfhowlett> nkl_, would help to see.  paste a screen shot ...
[13:11] <tad-pole> nkl_ Redo everything like I posted above
[13:11] <nkl_> just a sec..
[13:13] <MAGIKO> !LIST
[13:13] <histo> How hard can it be to partition a usb drive.
[13:13] <MAGIKO> !LIST
[13:13] <cfhowlett> histo, we learn when we learn ...
[13:13] <routcla0> I can't log in to my own brand-new laptop. Ubuntu gives me access to Guest only. Can you help?
[13:13] <histo> cfhowlett: I'm actually more interested in how he got a thumb drive that isn't partitioned.
[13:14] <cfhowlett> routcla0, lost/forgot password?
[13:14] <tad-pole> histo he likely messed it up trying to do what hes doing before.
[13:14] <tad-pole> he/she  excuse me   sorry :)
[13:14] <routcla0> I did not lose password. I uninstalled Wine and logged out and in and it denied access.
[13:14] <OerHeks> histo, he probably selected fat32, but never pressed apply to perform the format.
[13:14] <MAGIKO> SOMEONE HELP ME PLZ
[13:15] <tad-pole> !ask MAGIKO
[13:15] <tad-pole> oops
[13:15] <nkl_> this is the image http://oi50.tinypic.com/2csjp07.jpg
[13:15] <DJones> MAGIKO: You need to ask an Ubuntu support related question first
[13:15] <tad-pole> Guess I should learn how to use the bot if I am going to be here.
[13:15] <MAGIKO> I WANT DOWNLOAD A GAMES...HO I CAN DO IT??
[13:15] <cfhowlett> !shout|MAGIKO,
[13:15] <DJones> MAGIKO: Buy them, piracy isn't allowed here
[13:16] <histo> nkl_: Click the right arrow by the Create primary partition #1  there to see details
[13:16] <cfhowlett> MAGIKO, games are in the ubuntu software center
[13:16] <nashant> Hi guys. I'm trying to recover data from my gf's dying (dead?) drive. smartctl seems to think that it's a 2.5" 600PB drive, I guess this is because the logical block size is being reported as 774843950. Any hints?
[13:16] <histo> nkl_: did you launch gparted with gksu?
[13:16] <kingbeast> I got it thanks guys
[13:16] <nkl_> histo, yes
[13:16] <nkl_> sudo
[13:16] <kingbeast> sorry for the confusion
[13:16] <MAGIKO> !LIST
[13:16] <histo> !manual | MAGIKO
[13:17] <AppleJuice> nashant, What is a PB?
[13:17] <AppleJuice> nashant, Peta Byte?
[13:18] <cfhowlett> 600 PB?  huge!
[13:18] <histo> nashant: make sure the drive is unmounted. image it and use scalpel or photorec to recover files.
[13:18] <histo> nashant: ddrescue  would be the way to image it
[13:19] <AppleJuice> You could use dd to make a image... or destroy the drive completely.
[13:19] <MAGIKO> !MANUAL
[13:19] <histo> !botabuse > MAGIKO
[13:19] <AppleJuice> !botabuse AppleJuice
[13:20] <histo> !undelete | nashant
[13:20] <viderbit> sup bitchеs
[13:20] <histo> !language > viderbit
[13:20]  * histo senses schools are off today
[13:21] <cfhowlett> viderbit, your stay here will be short and unproductive with such an attitude...
[13:21] <viderbit> ok its no problem :)
[13:22] <MAGIKO> !botause
[13:22] <viderbit> jesus you are so soft and cold, anyway - is there a way to switch from upstart to systemd
[13:22] <n00b_dust> #join #slack
[13:22] <MAGIKO> !botabuse
[13:22] <viderbit> and why ubuntu 12.04 is two times slower then 10.10/04
[13:23] <ThinkT510> viderbit: systemd isn't supported in ubuntu
[13:23] <histo> viderbit: compiz and you probably not having video drivers.
[13:23] <nashant> histo: I've tried to image it with ddrescue, but it doesn't seem to get any data at all
[13:23] <viderbit> i dont talk for video performance
[13:23] <cfhowlett> viderbit, , computer is 2 years older
[13:24] <nashant> AppleJuice: yeah. petabytes
[13:24] <viderbit> computer is with 4core i7
[13:24] <histo> nashant: Then you may be at a loss for recoverying anything.  You can try running photorec or scalpel on against the block device but good luck if you can't even image it.
[13:24] <viderbit> and 16 gig of RAM
[13:24] <viderbit> and SSd
[13:24] <histo> viderbit: Video drivers......
[13:24] <histo> viderbit: How are you measuring your "speed"
[13:25] <nashant> histo: would changing the block size help?
[13:25] <viderbit> i talk for server application performance not for GUI
[13:25] <viderbit> ....
[13:25] <nashant> At the moment smartctl thinks it's 774843950 bytes
[13:25] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:25] <histo> nashant: not really ddrescue is pretty good. It starts and skips bad blocks then comes back to them.
[13:25] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, greetings
[13:25] <histo> viderbit: How are you measuring this performance?
[13:26] <histo> nashant: I'd be worried less about smartctl and more about reading data off of it atm.
[13:26] <AppleJuice> nashant, Your girlfriend does not have a petabyte drive. Your drive is drunk.
[13:26] <viderbit> here it is: http://gwan.com/en_timeline.html, I use gwan v4+
[13:26] <X-Scorpion> How can i join Ubuntu to windows Domain
[13:26] <BluesKaj> Hi cfhowlett , greetings as well
[13:27] <histo> !samba | X-Scorpion
[13:27] <X-Scorpion> How?
[13:27] <nashant> AppleJuice: It's not just drunk, it's absolutely shitfaced
[13:27] <nashant> And not just 1 petabyte, 600!
[13:27] <tad-pole> x-scorpion Google
[13:28] <ThinkT510> !language | nashant
[13:28] <X-Scorpion> tad-pole! i already did
[13:28] <nashant> histo: I tried ddrescue a few mins ago and it went 11 minutes without recovering anything at all
[13:28] <tad-pole> x-scorpion Not well enough. :)
[13:29] <X-Scorpion> maybe
[13:29] <histo> nashant: There are some options you may want to look at. man ddrescue
[13:29] <histo> nashant: if not, there isn't much more you're going to be able to do. If the data is worth a lot of money then you may want to pay someone for data recovery.
[13:30] <lupobianc3> ciao
[13:30] <X-Scorpion> so tad-pole do u have any idea about it?
[13:30] <cfhowlett> !it|lupobianc3,
[13:30] <tad-pole> x-scorpion There are numerous howto's   Find one similar to what you are doing, try it, then ask specific questions on your problems
[13:31] <X-Scorpion> i got an error The server domain and kerberos realm must match the domain you are trying
[13:31] <X-Scorpion> what does it mean
[13:31] <X-Scorpion> and how to fix it
[13:31] <X-Scorpion> sorry i am a newbie
[13:31] <bekks> !details | X-Scorpion
[13:32] <nashant> histo: the errsize is showing as 320GB, the full size of the disk
[13:35] <X-Scorpion> I have a problem joining Zentyal 3.01 to windows domain and when i configure the file server to be an addetional domain to windows AD with the rigth info it says "The server domain and kerberos realm must match the domain you are trying" and i expected it to connect without any errors
[13:35] <histo> nashant: try reading it backwards
[13:35] <nashant> histo.... huh?
[13:36] <cfhowlett> X-Scorpion, might be good to ask in #ubuntu-server as well
[13:36] <nashant> trying
[13:37] <X-Scorpion> thx
[13:37] <ThinkT510> !rootirc | bazorf
[13:37] <X-Scorpion> i am now
[13:37] <nashant> histo: still errsize 320GB
[13:37] <tad-pole> x-scorpion I have no idea about any of this   but I am searching.
[13:37] <X-Scorpion> thx alot
[13:38] <tad-pole> x-scorpion  Is this what you did? http://trac.zentyal.org/wiki/Documentation/Community/Development/multiplew
[13:39] <X-Scorpion> yes but with windows configurations
[13:40] <tad-pole> Did you contact the zentyal team?
[13:40] <X-Scorpion> yes at forums and no one is replying
[13:41] <bekks> X-Scorpion: How long have you been waiting?
[13:41] <arvendu> helo guys
[13:41] <X-Scorpion> more than a month
[13:42] <sqrt7744> Hey does anyone know how to get ps to show the full name? for example, ps x shows chromium-browser as /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chro, which isn't good enough for my script
[13:42] <tad-pole> x-scorpion Discussion of Zentyal Server, testing and development, takes place in #zentyal on irc.freenode.net. There is also a Spanish speaking #zentyal-es on ...    ???????????
[13:43] <arvendu> ppoe mode is not working in wireless network ?
[13:43] <X-Scorpion> i know and sorry for talking here but no one is anwsering me at all
[13:43] <X-Scorpion> there is just a few users there
[13:43] <ThinkT510> arvendu: pppoe = point to point protocol over ethernet
[13:43] <tad-pole> x-scorpion NP I am just going through what I would do if I was you making sure you did the same :)
[13:44] <X-Scorpion> thx
[13:44] <X-Scorpion> so do u know anything about joining Linux to windows Domain
[13:44] <iceroot> X-Scorpion: nt-domain or ad-domain?
[13:45] <tad-pole> sqrt7744 http://superuser.com/questions/103309/how-can-i-know-the-absolute-path-of-a-running-process    Is that helpful?
[13:45] <X-Scorpion> AD-Domain
[13:45] <bekks> sqrt7744: Then look for the following output: ps -aux | grep chrom
[13:45] <X-Scorpion> Windows Server 2008 R2
[13:45] <iceroot> X-Scorpion: then samba4 is the only way
[13:45] <X-Scorpion> ok i know that
[13:45] <X-Scorpion> but i don't know how to do it
[13:45] <bekks> sqrt7744: As you can see, the full path is displayed - so your terminal is just too small. :)
[13:45] <X-Scorpion> i am sorry
[13:45] <X-Scorpion> Zentyal already have Samba 4 in it
[13:46] <iceroot> X-Scorpion: https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4/Domain_Member
[13:46] <tad-pole> iceroot <X-Scorpion> I have a problem joining Zentyal 3.01 to windows domain and when i configure the file server to be an addetional domain to windows AD with the rigth info it says "The server domain and kerberos realm must match the domain you are trying" and i expected it to connect without any errors
[13:47] <mercsniper> Anyone know where ColinWatson hangsout?
[13:48] <Austerity-Sucks> mercsniper,  mostly gay bars
[13:48] <mercsniper> not irl, on irc
[13:48] <bekks> sqrt7744: Please keep it in the channel.
[13:48] <sqrt7744> even with 'ps xwww'
[13:49] <bekks> sqrt7744: Thats why I said: ps aux ...
[13:49] <sqrt7744> bekks, sorry, that was a type i meant bekks but accidentally /msg
[13:50] <sqrt7744> bekks, ah! thanks!
[13:51] <Pici> mercsniper: I'd guess #ubuntu-devel, but I don't see him online recently.
[13:51] <flintser> i know this isn't appropriate place for this but i need quick help. can i install mysql with root account? i want to use wordpress so can i install it with root account
[13:51] <mercsniper> TY Pici
[13:52] <iceroot> flintser: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[13:52] <Pici> flintser: if you're using Ubuntu, this is the right place for that question
[13:52] <iceroot> flintser: DONT!!! run a database itself with the mysql-root user, always create an own user for each database which is not able to read/write other databases
[13:53] <flintser> i have installed all that. but when i created mysql database i did it with root so i need to use root privileges in wordpress install.
[13:53] <iceroot> flintser: dont do that!
[13:53] <bekks> flintser: No. Thats notr true. DONT do that.
[13:53] <flintser> ok :) what do i need to do then
[13:53] <iceroot> flintser: create a new user which can only read/write the specific database
[13:53] <ikonia> flintser: mysql's root user, is not the systems root user
[13:54] <flintser> so i adduser xxx and give it read/write to mysql-database
[13:55] <ikonia> flintser: no
[13:55] <c2tarun> Can anyone please tell me that why is evolution removed from Ubuntu and Thunderbird is the new default mail client?
[13:55] <ikonia> flintser: the mysql users are internal to mysql
[13:56] <ThinkT510> c2tarun: i don't know why, however evolution is still in the repos
[13:56] <flintser> well at the mysql-server install it asked for mysql root password and i gave it one, different of my real root account, so when wordpress asks for account / password can i use root + the password mysql-server asked
[13:56] <OerHeks> c2tarun, why thunderbird >> http://askubuntu.com/a/57094
[13:56] <c2tarun> ThinkT510, yeah, and there is BIG problem with thunderbird :( its message pane is only single line. It doesn't support multiple line message pane.
[13:57] <ikonia> flintser: do not use the mysql root account
[13:57] <bekks> flintser: DONT use the mysql-root user for anything. Creat another mysql-user which only has r/w access to the database desired.
[13:57] <ikonia> flintser: I really suggest you read the basic wordpress documents that advise you against this
[13:58] <flintser> i did the 5-minute installation all the way to this point where it asks for that username/password combination. this is why i ask because i'm really scared to do anything with root :D
[13:59] <c2tarun> OerHeks, hmm.... are you guys able to get a double line message pane in thunderbird, or you use single line only?
[13:59] <ikonia> flintser: #wordpress will guide you
[13:59]  * syntroPi invokes printf "<IP_ADDRESS>\twww.facebook.com">> /etc/hosts"
[14:00]  * ikonia request syntroPi keeps that sort of stuff to himself please
[14:01] <zefuros> hello there is anyone here online?
[14:01] <ikonia> zefuros: many people
[14:01] <ThinkT510> zefuros: of course
[14:01] <zefuros> im new to ubuntu and i encounter a huge boot problem
[14:02] <zefuros> is any ubuntu supporter online where i can reffer to so i wont spam my problems on the general chat?
[14:02] <flintser> ikonia, bekks: yes i'll ask one more question, then i'll shut up for non ubuntu bussiness. can i use this guide to create approppriate mysql-user to use for installation? http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-create-a-mysql-database-and-set-privileges-to-a-user/
[14:02] <ikonia> flintser: no idea, ask in #mysql
[14:02] <mayenit> theres allways someone to help you offcourse :)
[14:02] <zefuros> alright on wich user should i refer for my problem?
[14:03] <ThinkT510> zefuros: best to keep it in channel, thats the whole purpose of the channel
[14:03] <zefuros> so i can talk about it right now?
[14:03] <Myrtti> zefuros: yup
[14:03] <ThinkT510> yes
[14:03] <Ohmage> hey guys back again
[14:03] <zefuros> ok i will first give you a general view of what happening till now
[14:03] <piyush> hi i am new here
[14:03] <piyush> plzz help
[14:04] <bnkprob> Hi, internet banking from one bank does not work on my 12.10 installation. It works from another machine running 12.04. I use firefox. Can someone please help?
[14:04] <ThinkT510> piyush: to help we need to know the issue
[14:04] <Ohmage> just about to install 12.04.1 on my uefi laptop and am just wondering where i should be placing the efi bootloader install so as not to mess up the windows bootloader bug
[14:04] <bnkprob> After typing the userid/passwd for netbanking, the browser indefinitely waits.
[14:04] <piyush> ok i have a new dell inspiron 14 z having 4 gb ram ...500 gb hard disk..i 3 2nd generation processor
[14:05] <piyush> i am willing to completely switch to ubuntu
[14:05] <piyush> from windows
[14:05] <ThinkT510> bnkprob: is that just in forefox? have you tried with chromium?
[14:05] <bnkprob> chromium too, same issue
[14:05] <piyush> but during installation hard drives r not appearing
[14:05] <Ohmage> i ask as i see that if i install the grub2 bootloader in the wrong partition it will essentially give me headches if i want to boot windows up again
[14:05] <zefuros> i got a desktop computer with one ssd drive and and hdd on the ssd i got installed windows 8 update version and on the hdd a space for my windows 8 documents i shrinked a part of my hdd drive and deleted it to install ubuntu after installed ubuntu 12.10 i found several problems with graphics and i deleted the partitation and installed ubuntu 12.04
[14:06] <bnkprob> No matter which browser I use, I get stuck at the login page.
[14:07] <piyush> ok i have a new dell inspiron 14 z having 4 gb ram ...500 gb hard disk..i 3 2nd generation processor.ok i have a new dell inspiron 14 z having 4 gb ram ...500 gb hard disk..i 3 2nd generation processor but during installation hard drives r not appearing
[14:07] <ThinkT510> bnkprob: it doesn't use java does it (the bank website)?
[14:07] <zefuros> and there the problem showed up when i booted i saw error message not such device found after searching i saw i must re install grub so i did but the problem was still there then i thought since i installed grub on the hdd drive i should have it boot frist from bios i i made it boot first as result the bootloader finally showed up and i can start ubuntu now but i cant start windows 8 it immidiatly restarts upon loading logo
[14:08] <zefuros> any ideas?
[14:08] <Ohmage> just about to install 12.04.1 on my uefi laptop and am just wondering where i should be placing the efi bootloader install so as not to mess up the windows bootloader and get the bootloader bug
[14:08] <bnkprob> I tested 2 situations (a) No java installed (b) oracle 7 installed.
[14:08] <bekks> zefuros: Please use interpunctuation to simplify even reading your post.
[14:08] <bnkprob> No luck!
[14:08] <zefuros> how can i use that? sorry im new here
[14:09] <bnkprob> pops etc are enabled already
[14:09] <bekks> zefuros: In school, you learned about . , : ! and ?. Just use those signs please :)
[14:09] <zefuros> oh yes sorry , shall i write the things from beggning?
[14:10] <mayenit> !stats
[14:10] <bekks> zefuros: Please just described your problem, not that you took on you shoes and jacket to go out to buy a new computer, missed the bus, took a taxi... :)
[14:10] <piyush> anybody here who can help me its so mush up here
[14:10] <piyush> uffffffff
[14:11] <bnkprob> just checkout yourself http://www.icicibank.com personal banking
[14:11] <zefuros> ok. So after reinstalling the grub using a livecd ubuntu i cant get my windows 8 to start
[14:11] <bnkprob> type in dummy acct/pwd
[14:11] <Quest> I put my sata 512 gb HD in an HD case (for usb input for data and a separate power supply). While I was Coping data, there was an electricity power outage. when electricity came back, my harddisk partitions showed there capacity but where showing as "to be formated" with no data inside. How can I recover my fiels? any good software for ntfs?
[14:11] <flintser> Quest: for windows use recuva
[14:12] <sakkemo> is there a way to get the same dialog for selecting keyboard layout when as when installing ubuntu, instead of using setxkbmap and trying to figure out the correct arguments? I'm running minimal Ubuntu with i3
[14:12] <Quest> flintser that only gives the option for deleted files. but i my case i think all the partition is corrupted. (i use windows and linux both)
[14:12] <nibbler_> piyush: harddsiks not showing usually means your disk controller is not recognized.... can you change its behaviour in the bios maybe?
[14:13] <nibbler_> Quest: photorec is available for linux
[14:13] <ThinkT510> bnkprob: doesn't look like it uses java, try contacting them for help
[14:13] <nibbler_> Quest: even the source device went dead/unformatted?
[14:14] <zefuros> where i can refer for windows booting issues after installing ubuntu?
[14:14] <bnkprob> but how come it works from other ubuntu 12.04 systems?
[14:14] <Quest> nibbler_ sory?
[14:14] <mayenit> anyone clicked the raid button on the disk app?
[14:14] <Quest> flintser recuva only gives the option for deleted files. am i correct?
[14:14] <bnkprob> is there some place in ubuntu where different behaviour is configured?
[14:14] <nibbler_> Quest: you say your harddrive partitions are "to be formated" - you mean the one in the usb case (target?) or the source device of the data?
[14:14] <ThinkT510> bnkprob: maybe just sloppy website coding which breaks in newer browsers
[14:14] <Quest> nibbler_ dead/unformartted? what is?
[14:15] <piyush> yea nibbler i used AHCI mode frm intel smart security but still same prblm
[14:15] <nibbler_> Quest: not-formated
[14:15] <Quest> nibbler_ well,
[14:15] <bnkprob> I mean it works in firefox 17.x and up.
[14:15] <nibbler_> piyush: intel smart security sounds worrying to me
[14:15] <flintser> Quest: http://www.piriform.com/recuva/features
[14:15] <bnkprob> on other ubuntus
[14:15] <Quest> nibbler_ i was coping data fine before power outage. at resum the partitions "appeared" as unformated
[14:15] <bnkprob> BTW in your test just now how far did you get?
[14:16] <nibbler_> Quest: on partitions. the one that held the data before, or the one that you were copying to?
[14:16] <zefuros> someone here who has time to help me? unfortunately i didnt saw response or i didnt notice so please dont take me wrong
[14:16] <piyush> sorry it was intel smart rapid start technology :P
[14:16] <ThinkT510> bnkprob: i didn't test, i just looked at the login page, seems like just javascript
[14:16] <piyush> in sata mode
[14:16] <escott> Quest, was this a low-level copy or a normal copy
[14:16] <piyush> i changed it to AHCI
[14:17] <ThinkT510> !uefi | zefuros
[14:17] <piyush> and tried trial verision of ubuntu is reading my drive
[14:17] <piyush> but during installation it is not reading
[14:17] <Quest> escott nibbler_ i was just coping by kubuntu mouse and dolphin. dont know tech
[14:17] <cheekee> Quest: I once messed up my Windows partition system, and rebooted the Pc. but was able to fix it after reviewing the gparted error logs
[14:17] <escott> Quest, thats a normal copy. you should certainly still be able to see the disks. you may have to run an fsck (and if its NTFS you must do so from Windows)
[14:18] <Quest> cheekee i did that. but partition tool with kubuntu dont let me mount the partitions in the first place. escott
[14:18] <nibbler_> Quest: what was the source and what was the destination of your copy adventure? did you copy from /home/quest to /media/usbdisk?
[14:18] <Quest> escott nibbler_ yes i see the disks and their sizes but no data
[14:18] <mayenit> anyone clicked the raid button under creat in disk util?
[14:18] <escott> Quest, you have run fsck/chkdsk and it comes back clean
[14:19] <Quest> fsck dont check the partitions and nor mount it
[14:19] <Quest> i tried fsck -f even. but no use
[14:19] <Quest> it gives code for reboot
[14:19] <Quest> i think 02
[14:19] <Quest> and again 02 after reboot
[14:19] <mayenit> anyone clicked the raid button under create in disk util?
[14:20] <escott> !anyone
[14:20] <escott> !language | ShameSpiral
[14:20] <Guest87983> I would like some help with installing ubuntu 12.04 server?
[14:21] <escott> Quest, what filesystem type is this
[14:21] <Guest87983> I am trying to install  12.04 on Ibm server
[14:22] <escott> !ask | Guest87983 (also there are a dozen or more Guest#### in channel, please /nick to something else)
[14:22] <mayenit> Has anyone clicked the raid button under create in disk util?
[14:22] <bekks> mayenit: I bet someone already did - but why?
[14:23] <DJones> mayenit: You'd be better asking your real question and explaining what the issue is
[14:23] <Guest87983> I am trying to configure software raid1 on the server, when I click on the bootable flag it does not toggle to on
[14:23] <Guest87983> I is always in the off mode
[14:25] <mayenit> im just trying to get curious people to click it and have them fsck
[14:25] <Guest87983> Is there any specific channel for ubuntu servers?
[14:26] <mayenit> just like the guy that made that gui intended
[14:26] <DJones> mayenit: Why do you want people to do that
[14:26] <DJones> Guest87983: THere is #ubuntu-server which might be able to help
[14:26] <nibbler_> Guest87983: you could use fdisk to mark both partitions bootable manually (option: a) - but this does not work on raid level, but only on the underlaying partitions/disks
[14:26] <Physicist> Ubuntu Tweak do not open. Any device?
[14:26] <mayenit> so that more people join this channel
[14:27] <mayenit> !lusers
[14:27] <lukecarrier> mayenit, don't be "that guy"
[14:27] <zefuros> ubottu: thanks for the post you sent me and running the commands i can tell both windows and ubuntu are installed on legacy mode
[14:28] <zefuros> lol :P
[14:28] <Physicist> Ubuntu Tweak do not open. Any device?
[14:28] <Physicist> I tried reinstall but did nont work.
[14:28] <zefuros> is here someone who can help me solve my windows 8 boot problem?
[14:28] <escott> Guest87165, mdadm raid could never be "bootable" by a bios
[14:29] <zefuros> escott: hello there
[14:30] <iceroot> escott: Guest87983 the single hdds from the raid array can be booted and then mdadm starts. you can also remove a single hdd (raid1) and boot it on another system without raid
[14:31] <zefuros> iceroot: hello there
[14:31] <nexus`> zefuros
[14:31] <nexus`> i believe the UEFI fix was only just released
[14:31] <nexus`> and to apply it would take quite a bit of linux knowledge
[14:32] <nexus`> http://www.zdnet.com/linux-foundation-releases-windows-secure-boot-fix-7000011084/
[14:32] <zefuros> nexus seems like i installed both OS in legacy mode im sure about the ubuntu not sure for windows cause its on a different drive
[14:32] <zefuros> can you please help me boot my windows?
[14:33] <nexus`> maybe hold on
[14:33] <zefuros> ok thanks :D
[14:35] <nexus`> !grub
[14:35] <zefuros> nexus i installed windows 8 first and ubuntu second
[14:37] <nexus`> :S i dont have a system with both windows/linux on it to mess around to find a solution for you. all i can do is guess and i think that is probably not for the best
[14:37] <Ohmage> zefuros are you on UEFI system??
[14:37] <nexus`> i think when you reboot you will see a quick prompt saying press f8 or something to choose what to boot into
[14:38] <Ohmage> nexus it depends if hes on UEFIbios thing
[14:38] <Ohmage> as if he installed the grub bootloader over the windows one he needs to fix that
[14:38] <nexus`> yeah thats why i said i can only guess
[14:38] <nexus`> it appears you know more than me
[14:38] <zefuros> ohmage even if my bios support uefi, i checked out and seems that i installed both windows and ubuntu on legacy mode
[14:38] <Ohmage> im in the midst of doing this all on my new laptop thats been ruined by windows and UEFI
[14:38] <nexus`> i havent messed with anything that has UEFI yet
[14:39] <Ohmage> ok which bootloader are you using?
[14:39] <Ohmage> grub"
[14:39] <Ohmage> 2
[14:39] <zefuros> grub
[14:39] <Ohmage> and yet you cant see windows with it??
[14:40] <zefuros> i can , but when i try to boot windows it restarts my system
[14:40] <nexus`> is there a reason you installed legacy mode?
[14:40] <Ohmage> yeh i steered clear of legacy cant remember why but i think might be ur issue
[14:41] <zefuros> i dont even know the difference between efi and legacy mode
[14:41] <sirstan>  Anyone use Monit?  Im having syntax issues with 'check program....'
[14:41] <Ohmage> did the machine your on have preinstalled os??
[14:41] <escott> zefuros, EFI an emulate a BIOS system. when it does so that is called "Legacy Mode". you cannot boot Win8 with legacy enabled
[14:41] <zefuros> the windows are on my ssd drive and the ubuntu on my hdd, is there a way to check if windows 8 are installed in EFI or legacy mode?
[14:42] <Ohmage> right back up a bit
[14:42] <Ohmage> can you enter your UEFIbios menu
[14:42] <zefuros> no i built the machine myself and installed windows 7 then updated to 8
[14:42] <zefuros> yes i can
[14:42] <Ohmage> if soo try putting it in uefi mode and seeing what bootloader does when u reboot
[14:42] <friend> Hello help me download youtube videos
[14:42] <Ohmage> ah ok
[14:42] <zefuros> how can i put it on uefi mode?
[14:43] <Ohmage> go to boot settings
[14:43] <Ohmage> should be an enable
[14:43] <Ohmage> in boot sub menu
[14:43] <zefuros> ok so i must restart now to check that right?
[14:43] <Ohmage> might as well
[14:43] <GermainZ> Hey everyone, I installed 12.04 and it fixed some of the issues I was having with 12.10, but my brightness is still locked to the max. Reading around the web, it's suggested to upgrade my BIOS, but it's already updated (although it is kinda old, latest update: late 2011). Also installed modifying grub, without effect. Any suggestions at all? Thanks!
[14:44] <Ohmage> if it does nothing then go back to legacy and im not sure what u need to do im afraid
[14:44] <friend> Pls i want help to download youtube videos
[14:44] <zefuros> ok i will restart check on uefi and come back to tell you if both OS running then
[14:44] <joesl> I have a share on my Samba network and one of the folder there's a folder where is rsynced but everytime after the sync I need to do "chmod -R 775 /media/backup/folder" in order to open it over Samba. What am I missing?
[14:44] <zefuros> but as i read both windows and linux must be installed in one more
[14:44] <zefuros> mode*
[14:44] <jpds> friend: That's against the YouTube T&C, so not supported here.
[14:45] <nexus`> atm UEFI is just a hassle for linux zefuros
[14:45] <Ohmage> it is but at the same time the only way to learn the wrongs of it is to try :P
[14:45]  * Ohmage is discovering all this the hard way
[14:45] <nexus`> joesl: try chown?
[14:45] <zefuros> ok i will reboot check and come back to tell you the results please wait for me
[14:45] <cafecat> hi all, anyone using the yubiserver on ubuntu? What is the most recent version  number? I have some newbie questions about getting started with it...
[14:46] <joesl> nexus`: ah, you mean I should chown 775?
[14:46] <zefuros> yeah i know i learned widows cmd and other stuff the "hard way" , so i suppose i will also do on linux
[14:46] <nexus`> something like sudo chown -R /media/* joesl:joesl
[14:46] <nexus`> i forget the exact syntax
[14:46] <nexus`> basically you want to make the permissions editable as your user
[14:46] <nexus`> changing ownership
[14:46] <nexus`> (chown)
[14:47] <tury> hi
[14:47] <friend> Any youtube downloader software for backtrack 5r3?
[14:47] <DJones> !backtrack | friend
[14:48] <Quest> escott ntfs
[14:48] <Ohmage> nexus, im currently just about to install ubuntu on a partition on my own UEFI system in the installer when i get to the partition selection im a little confused
[14:48] <Quest> escott ntfs. appologies for late reply
[14:48] <escott> Quest, you have to boot windows and run chkdsk there.
[14:48] <joesl> nexus`: sudo: unable to execute /bin/chown: Argument list too long
[14:48] <tury> there's a way to connect remotly  x11vnc with multiple users?
[14:48] <nexus`> hold on
[14:49] <Quest> escott yes. windows says. it must be formated first
[14:49] <Ohmage> ok
[14:49] <escott> Quest, sounds like a windows problem, or that the damage is too severe for windows to even recognize the disk
[14:50] <nexus`> sudo chown -R joesl:joesl /media/*
[14:50] <wdp> tury, not sure if that helps you, but tightvnc has a -shared parameter.
[14:51] <joesl> nexus`: well, new files will be comming in.. perhaps I'll just add it to after the init.d..
[14:51] <tury> wdp, thanks , i try
[14:51] <joesl> so it does chown 775 automaticly after rsync
[14:51] <nexus`> i would think with the /media/* it would always allow access
[14:51] <zefuros> ohmage are you here?
[14:51] <Ohmage> yes
[14:51] <nexus`> im not sure why you are getting permission errors changing every time
[14:51] <nexus`> maybe theres an rsync option you can add?
[14:52] <Ohmage> what happened zefuros
[14:52] <nexus`> (im not to familiar with samba)
[14:52] <zefuros> i tried with efi mode enabled and i cant boot windows 8
[14:52] <Ohmage> but you can boot ubuntu?
[14:52] <zefuros> yeah i can boot ubuntu normally
[14:52] <Ohmage> hmm
[14:52] <nexus`> mount your ssd zefuros
[14:53] <zefuros> wait i want to add up something
[14:53] <wdp> tury, does it do what you want?
[14:53] <zefuros> you said windows cant install in legacy mode , so my windows 8 are surely in efi mode right?
[14:53] <Ohmage> nexus cud i bend ur ear/eyes a minute?
[14:53] <nexus`> i think your GRUB might be confused as you have win8 on an SSD and ubuntu on a HDD
[14:54] <nexus`> yeah sure Ohmage
[14:54] <Ohmage> im not sure tbh as i have only just been introdused to uefi myself
[14:54] <nexus`> ditto. i just know its a problem
[14:54] <zefuros> so nexus i follow your steps now?
[14:54] <Ohmage> nexus: basically iv gotten to the partitioning part of ubuntu install from live disc, and iv got a partition i want to use
[14:54] <nexus`> i dont have any steps bud. i dont want to blindly give advice that could end up  messing something up for you
[14:55] <Ohmage> but im very unfamiliar with how this bit works in this version
[14:55] <tury> wdp, i have a machine with 3 users and i want to access remotly from three different machines with x11vnc
[14:55] <zefuros> so no one here can help?
[14:55] <nexus`> my advice would be to wait until someone with more experience in this situation can help
[14:55] <nexus`> zefuros: someone will be able to
[14:55] <nexus`> what do you mean Ohmage
[14:55] <Ohmage> zefuros if you lurk a while and ask for help regarding uefi stuff every now and then someone will be around im sure
[14:55] <joesl> Could someone tell me why these commands doesn't run after eachother? rsync -pav backup-lokal@aff.se:/var/www/aff.se/application/orders/ /media/backup/orders/ && chmod -R 775 /media/backup/orders
[14:55] <zefuros> you told me to mount my ssd you got some ideas for that?
[14:56] <nexus`> yeah read the mount manual
[14:56] <nexus`> !mount
[14:56] <wdp> joesl, is the rsync command failing?
[14:56] <nexus`> i dunno what your SSD is called
[14:56] <nibbler_> joesl: because the first one does not exit with a true state.
[14:56] <nexus`> again this is just a guess
[14:57] <Ohmage> nexus: well iv got a 100gb partition i just formatted to ext4 with gparted for ubuntu. when i get to the partitioner on ubi installer if i just highlight that partition and set the bootloader install to the same partition will the rest automate for me from there
[14:57] <Ohmage> or do i have to manually split that partition up for the boot and other stuff
[14:57] <nexus`> oh unless you want to customize it will ask you if u want to go default
[14:58] <nexus`> it will it all by itself
[14:58] <GermainZ> Can the GPU drivers be the cause of me not being able to change my brightness?
[14:58] <zefuros> wait nexus if i mount my ssd on the boot directory that means that i can solve my problem?
[14:58] <Ohmage> ok another thing when i formatted that partition it was after installing fedora on it before hand which did it as an lvm volum i unflagged lvm when i repartitioned but it leaves me with a 1.7gb chunk of used after deleting the partition no matter what i do
[14:59] <nexus`> idk man. like i said im just guessing here. i would assume your BIOS boot order is CD>HDD
[14:59] <Ohmage> is that normal
[14:59] <GermainZ> I've tried version current-updates, but I suppose I can give the rest a try as well if it might be the problem.
[14:59] <zefuros> yeah but i left my cd drive empty , so the grub appeared and i booted ubuntu from there
[14:59] <nexus`> and ubuntu is on your HDD
[15:00] <nexus`> but windows is on your SSD
[15:00] <zefuros> yeah
[15:00] <zefuros> yeah
[15:00] <nexus`> no Ohmage