[06:59] <pag> fyrmedic, my guess at that point would be: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:59] <antennae> frymedic: apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:59] <fyrmedic> pag; when I try and do an upgrade it says that 2 packages are upgradeable but then holds them back when I try to do the upgrade on them
[07:00] <pag> fyrmedic, yup. dist-upgrade is teh solution
[07:00] <fyrmedic> pag; I have tried doing -f install, and clean, and autoclean
[07:00] <ShackJac1> Kind of a longshot question (not_kubuntu specific)... Any KXMAME (sdl) users know how to get the games playing full screen that actually stretches to the width/height of the screen? I can go full screen but games don't take advantage of the space?
[07:02] <BluesKaj> ShackJac1: buy a gamebox of some sort ...but i'm just old and grumpy and think pc's aren't meantfor games
[07:03] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: that works well for most things, but not mame
[07:04] <arun> i just pressed ctrl + alt + f1 and got the shock of my life
[07:04] <ShackJac1> BluesKaj: Silly person - those gamebox don't play the *good* games - like Pacman, Robotron and Timepilot, just to name a few...
[07:04] <Daisuke_Ido> mame = multi arcade machine emulator :)
[07:04] <ShackJac1> arun: It's called the command line ;)
[07:04] <sudeep> how can i get xmms --
[07:04] <arun> ShackJac1: how does one get out of that? i had to sudo reboot to restart
[07:04] <Daisuke_Ido> sudeep: avoid xmms like the plague
[07:04] <pag> !info xmms | sudeep
[07:04] <ubotu> sudeep: xmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.2.10+20061201-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 794 kB, installed size 6304 kB
[07:05] <Daisuke_Ido> and why would you want it when there's amarok, and barring that, audacious?
[07:05] <ShackJac1> arun: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart  (though I think there's a keyboard shortcut?)
[07:05] <pag> sudeep, and eah - avoid it :)
[07:05] <jhutchins_lt> ShackJac1: You're thinking of Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[07:05] <Daisuke_Ido> just because it's the linux media player most people have heard of doesn't mean it's good :)
[07:05] <arun> ShackJac1: is there a way to revert back to X? just like i went to the command like via a keyboard shortcut
[07:05] <pag> arun, ctrl+alt+f7 maybe? :)
[07:06] <arun> pag: i'm not going to try that in a hurry
[07:06] <jhutchins_lt> alt-F7
[07:06] <ShackJac1> So I take it no kxmame users then?  No matter what I tweak under Display or Rendering, nothing changes (except I can get it to go "full screen" to a windowed version)...
[07:06] <BluesKaj> ShackJac1: Daisuke_Ido ... I luv to tease gamerz...it's just "my thing"
[07:06] <jhutchins_lt> arun: alt-f7
[07:06] <ShackJac1> arun: Do not fear the command line. The command line is your friend ;)
[07:06] <Nahi> hello, i have a problem with my laptop battery monitor can someone help me out ?? it keeps saying its 100% and charging even when i unplug it
[07:07] <ShackJac1> BluesKaj: Actually I wouldn't call myself much or a gamer. That's why I still like these one's. You can pop in for a few minutes and play without making a "lifestyle choice" :)
[07:07] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: if he's looking to play the true classics (pac man, frogger, etc), he's not a gamer, he's a devotee :D
[07:07] <arun> ShackJac1: i don't fear it.. i like doing things using the command line. just that i don't know too much, so i wouldn't know my way around
[07:07] <BluesKaj> ShackJac1: Daisuke_Ido   :>)
[07:07] <ShackJac1> Daisuke_Ido: I love the "shoot 'em ups" too... "shmups" - just awesome...
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> mmm
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> touhou...
[07:08] <Ace2016> ut2004 is great but for some reason i can't get it to work :(
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> are we talking gradius shmups or the insane omg-there's-bullets-everywhere shmups? (aka curtain shooters)
[07:09] <Daisuke_Ido> Ace2016: what kind of error?
[07:09] <ShackJac1> jhutchins: Ctrl+Alt_F7 - I'll remember that - I always restart kdm/gdm ;)
[07:09] <jhutchins_lt> ShackJac1: It's just Alt-F7 if you're in console.
[07:09] <jhutchins_lt> ShackJac1: If you're in X, you net Ctrl-Alt, but in console it's just alt.
[07:09] <ShackJac1> Daisuke_Ido: A little of both Gradius, R-Type, Raiden - then DoDonPachi, 1941/2/3 etc...
[07:10] <ShackJac1> jhutchins_lt: Ah O.K.  I think either works in console, though...
[07:10] <Ace2016> Daisuke_Ido: no error, to make sure its not an app or anything i logout shutdown the xserver and run X & DISPLAY=:0 ut2004 and x starts and the startup screen of ut2004 screen is shown and then the screen goes into power save mode and the keyboard stops working
[07:10] <jhutchins_lt> ShackJac1: Correct.
[07:11] <Ace2016> all completely dead, ctrl+alt+f1 does not work and neither does ctrl+alt+backspace or ctrl+alt+delete
[07:11] <Ace2016> i have to hard restart it by pressing the buttom on the case
[07:11] <Daisuke_Ido> that's...  not good
[07:11] <Ace2016> button*
[07:11] <Ace2016> yea tell me about it
[07:11] <Daisuke_Ido> have ou tried running it while x is already running?
[07:12] <BluesKaj> well time to take wifey to the malls ...later gents :)
[07:12] <fiyawerx> !nvidia
[07:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:13] <Ace2016> omg
[07:13] <Ace2016> for some strange and yet unknown reason i can play ut2004 in xgl!!!
[07:14] <Ace2016> what on earth is going on!!!
[07:14] <Ace2016> direct rendering: No
[07:14] <Ace2016> server glx vendor string: SGI
[07:14] <Ace2016> server glx version string: 1.2
[07:14] <ShackJac1> Ace2016: Don't question a miracle - just accept it ;)
[07:15] <brad> so I think I messed up my ndiswrapper file
[07:15] <Ace2016> the settings were set to open gl rendering, and 800x600 as the video mode
[07:15] <Ace2016> i think its the video mode thats messing things up, i'll bump it up to 1024x768 and see what happens
[07:15] <brad> I installed 1.47, then trying to install my wireless driver it said I needed 1.9, so I went to adept and got the service pack
[07:15] <Ace2016> oh wait
[07:15] <brad> and now ndiswrapper -v says no such device (before it said not a new enough version when I had JUST got it)
[07:15] <fiyawerx> does anyone know where System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager is in Kubuntu?
[07:15] <Ace2016> how do i asign a specific refresh rate to every screen resolution in xorg.conf?
[07:16] <fiyawerx> or which driver i use for nvidia 6600gt
[07:16] <brad> I dont think there is a restricted driver manager, but I have a similar videocard and it was actually pretty easy I'm just trying to remember what I did
[07:16] <Ace2016> nvidia driver for nvidia card, no brainer
[07:16] <fiyawerx> not sure if its nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new
[07:16] <fiyawerx> well which driver do you use? there's several
[07:16] <brad> I think nvidia glx new
[07:16] <fiyawerx> thanks
[07:17] <lontra> fiyawerx: there should be a restricted devices manager in gutsy but not in feisty in kubuntu
[07:17] <fiyawerx> yeah I'm using feisty
[07:17] <lontra> fiyawerx: it wouldn't matter ... it's not implemented in gutsy yet
[07:17] <fiyawerx> ok
[07:17] <fiyawerx> will try the nvidia-glx-new
[07:18] <brad> so can anyone help me with this ndiswrapper problem?
[07:18] <Ace2016> ok i set the resolution to 1024x768 for ut2004 in xgl and it crashed, now i think the normal x should start working, yay!
[07:18] <lontra> brad: what's your problem?  i've had good luck with ndiswrapper
[07:19] <brad> well I was trying to set up my wireless connection and everything was going swimmingly (with 1.47)
[07:19] <brad> and then it said I needed 1.9
[07:19] <nicolai_> fiyawerx: I have a GeForce 6600 and run it with nvidia-glx
[07:19] <brad> so I downloaded the 1.9 service pack or whatever
[07:19] <brad> and now ndiswrapper -v says it is not found
[07:19] <brad> but with 1.47 it said it wasnt new enough
[07:19] <Daisuke_Ido> unless you have an nvidia 8xxx card, you don't need -new
[07:20] <brad> so I Added all the ndiswrapper stuff I could from adept (gradually)
[07:20] <brad> but nothing
[07:22] <Ace2016> what is ndiswrapper
[07:22] <Ace2016> ?
[07:22] <brad> ok, so I got back to NDISwrapper saying "Version to Old, 1.9 needed"
[07:22] <llutz> ndiswrapper: nichts passendes.
[07:22] <RurouniJones> Anyone know what could be filling 86% of /tmp when there are only a few lock files in it (according to ls -la)
[07:22] <nicolai_> Ace2016:it is a way to use wireless drivers made for windows
[07:23] <Ace2016> oh thats cool
[07:23] <lontra> brad: you need to install the driver for your card with ndiswrapper via sudo ndiswrapper -i foo.inf
[07:23] <runlevelten> Refactor, runlevelten, refactor like the wind!
[07:23] <nicolai_> RurouniJones: Kaffeine running a large movie?
[07:23] <Ace2016> http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/ut2004_on_ubuntu_7_04_with_wiimote_control
[07:24] <Daisuke_Ido> because a lot of companies refuse to release linux drivers, or specs so others could make linux drivers
[07:24] <Ace2016> anyone know what mod that is??
[07:24] <lontra> brad: do you have the .EXE for your wireless card?
[07:24] <RurouniJones> nicolai - Nope, no GUI running on this particular machine
[07:24] <RurouniJones> but apparently 400 oddmb is being used in /tmp
[07:25] <brad> yes I do, I got it off of the website
[07:25] <llutz> RurouniJones: umount it, run fschk
[07:25] <brad> and when I tried to do that it said that the version wasnt new enoughh, I need the 1.9 utilities to work
[07:25] <aaron_> anyone get an atheros AT5007EG network card to work wireless yet?
[07:25] <knowledge25k> i need help my beryl won't work
[07:25] <lontra> brad: yeah ... sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> !beryl
[07:26] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:26] <lontra> brad: then unzip foo.EXE, then sudo ndiswrapper -i foo.inf, and so on
[07:26] <frojnd> hello
[07:26] <lontra> hi frojnd
[07:26] <RurouniJones> Righto llutz.
[07:26] <frojnd> can someone tell me how to set as first shown page in konqueror TREE LOOK ? so when I click on konqueror I can see home folder in tree view ?
[07:26] <brad> I did that before from adept and it didnt work but will try from command line
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> frojnd:  set it up how ya like. and save the default view to be that view.
[07:27] <brad> I didnt get ndiswrapper through apt-install I downloaded it manually (if it makes a difference that it is in /home/brad/ndiswrapper
[07:27] <knowledge25k> what is that mean for me
[07:27] <lontra> !info ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[07:27] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils-1.9: Userspace utilities for the ndiswrapper linux kernel module. In component main, is optional. Version 1.38-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 31 kB, installed size 120 kB
[07:27] <lontra> brad: it's there
[07:27] <ubuntu_> alguien sabe como se instala ubuntu desde el cd live?
[07:28] <lontra> !es
[07:28] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> frojnd: settings ---> save viewprofile 'whatever its called.'
[07:28] <koyote> man. I need a feed for angband 3.0.8 and emacs 22
[07:28] <koyote> I wonder if I should try grunty.
[07:28] <brad> ok so I did what you just said
[07:28] <brad> and now ndiswrapper -v says "No version specified"
[07:29] <brad> utils error, no version specified
[07:29] <brad> which is exactly what it did before
[07:29] <lontra> brad: did you install your driver first ... sudo ndiswrapper -i foo.inf
[07:29] <brad> thats what I was trying to explain, the problem is that that is what it does
[07:29] <brad> no when I tried to install the driver there was a problem because the utilties arent new enough
[07:29] <brad> I did try manually uninstalling and reinstalling, but it needs the 1.9 utilities which WONT work
[07:30] <lontra> brad: pastebin your error
[07:30] <lontra> !paste
[07:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:30] <brad> k going to paste bin
[07:31] <brad> but it isnt a long error
[07:31] <brad> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31931/
[07:31] <Silent_G> how can i make my windows partition Writable ?
[07:31] <fiyawerx> !svideo
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about svideo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <fiyawerx> Ok, nvidia-glx-new worked for my regular widescreen monitor, but now i have to figure out how to enable svideo
[07:32] <keyes_> Hi, is there any Kubuntu dev channel ?
[07:32] <pag> keyes_, #kubuntu-devel
[07:32] <brad> I feel like this is caused by my downloaded and manually installing ndiswrapper instead of using adept, but using adept for the tools?
[07:32] <keyes_> thanks :)
[07:32] <lontra> brad: have you tried to install it from a tarball as well?
[07:32] <lontra> brad: :)
[07:33] <brad> I DID install from a tarball
[07:33] <lontra> brad: go into the ndiswrapper directory where you installed it and run sudo make uninstall and then try to install it via adept
[07:33] <llutz> !ntfs-3g|  Silent_G
[07:33] <brad> I realize the utils are there
[07:33] <ubotu> Silent_G: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:33] <brad> kk
[07:33] <Silent_G> thankz
[07:34] <brad> becauseI had great instructions on the forums but it stalled when ndiswrapper -v showed an error
[07:34] <lontra> brad: there's lot of great how-tos ... in general i've found the one in adept works fine
[07:36] <brad> (I was just trying to follow the instructions I was given, I Dont know why I wasnt told to just use adept)
[07:36] <kosch> informix: -> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
[07:36] <Silent_G> Applications  System Tools  NTFS Configuration Tool
[07:36] <Silent_G> how do i go to Applications?
[07:36] <Silent_G> where is it
[07:36] <Silent_G> ?
[07:36] <Silent_G> :s
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> in the KDE menu perhaps?
[07:36] <brad> it still says no file found when i do ndiswrapper -v
[07:36] <Silent_G> does it refere to the K menu
[07:36] <Silent_G> ah ok
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> where else could you even Look? :)
[07:37] <brad> could not open a different file
[07:37] <lontra> brad: sudo dpkg -s ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[07:37] <Silent_G> into another dimension?
[07:37] <Silent_G> :p
[07:38] <lontra> brad: you just need to have ndiswrapper-common and ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 to use ndiswrapper
[07:38] <brad> I got both of them
[07:38] <brad> thats the thing, is I can get to where it tries to run, and it says I dont have a new enough version and need 1.9
[07:38] <brad> and I install 1.9, and then it says the utilities version isnt found
[07:39] <Nahi> hello, i have a problem with my laptop battery monitor can someone help me out ?? it keeps saying its 100% and charging even when i unplug it
[07:39] <lontra> brad: ok then you should have everything you need.  so what happens when you unzip your .EXE and try to install it running sudo ndiswrapper -i foo.inf?
[07:39] <lontra> brad: btw ... what's your wireless card?
[07:39] <brad> well before there was an error, I was told not to proceed until ndiswrapper -v came back with out an error
[07:39] <brad> its a Marvell Yukon
[07:39] <brad> you can get the 64 bit driver from the asus website
[07:40] <frojnd> Dr_Willis: I make tree in my new profile and save it. I also save my new profile. I close konqueror. I open it and there is still conquer your desktop instead my home folder under tree view :S
[07:41] <lontra> brad: well i would just try to procced with ndiswrapper -i, ndiswrapper -l, ndiswrapper -m, and so on ... i've never used the ndiswrapper -v command before so i can't say if your error is benign or important
[07:41] <brad> well, before when I tried to proceed it said it couldnt do it though it did most there was some error, I am proceeding though
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> You save it as the name of tha tdefault one,, you dont make a new one..
[07:42] <llutz> frojnd: kubuntu comes with a castrated (they call it simplified) konqueror, you'll need to recover the original profiles. use google for a howto
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> or ya some how set that one ya saved as the 'default'
[07:42] <lontra> llutz: yeah they cripple konqueror imo
[07:43] <brad> it says the driver is already installed (because I've tried this before)
[07:43] <brad> wow, crazily enough it IS working after a reset
[07:43] <lontra> http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror  <-- to get konqueror to it's default and happy state
[07:43] <lontra> brad: cool
[07:43] <brad> and I didnt realize it because I'm so convinced there is something wrong with ndiswrapper
[07:44] <brad> thanks soooooooo much
[07:44] <lontra> brb
[07:44] <brad> it's really hard to get good help, I am getting to actually understand linux and as such be less of a newb
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> There is a faq/guide on getting back all the other profiles.
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> on the Kubuntu faq
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. that faq/change for the profiles dident work for me. Saw no change
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> or do ya got to restart kde?
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> lets try..
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. diddent change my profiles at all.
[07:48] <fiyawerx> !tv-out
[07:48] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[07:48] <Nahi> anyone has an idea about battery on laptops ?
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> what about them?
[07:48] <jhutchins> Well, mine just quit, that's twice without the power daemon detecting it.
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> Nahi: Yes, laptops have batteries ;)
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. odd. not seen that with my laptop yet.
[07:49] <Nahi> Dr_Willis; duh!
[07:49] <Nahi> ;p
[07:49] <Nahi> ConstyXIV; yes i unplug the ac from my laptop and it keeps showing charging and 100%
[07:49] <Lynoure> Nahi: if you don't use them, keep then charged and cold. :)
[07:49] <Nahi> Dr_Willis; ; yes i unplug the ac from my laptop and it keeps showing charging and 100%
[07:49] <Nahi> god enough with the sarcasm
[07:49] <Lynoure> Nahi: it was not...
[07:49] <pawel> elo
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> sounds like some apci issues with your specific laptop make/model.  - check the ubuntu/kubuntu laptop forums perhaps.
[07:50] <Nahi> i went over the forum
[07:50] <Nahi> couldn't find nothing
[07:50] <Nahi> i run kubuntu
[07:50] <Nahi> and my laptop is HP compaq nx 9000
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> It pays to be very clear and concise on IRC.
[07:50] <Lynoure> Nahi: most people seem all unaware of the fact that keeping the battery in an ac connected lappy is very bad for the battery
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> Lynoure:  whats sad. is that it shouldent be a problem. But i do the same thing. :)
[07:50] <Nahi> Lynoure; well my laptop is on 24/7
[07:51] <miles> miles says hi
[07:51] <Lynoure> Nahi: It's not likely to overcharge or explode, probably your lappy just shows the maintenance charging as real charging for some reason
[07:52] <Nahi> well the only way to fix it is to reboot
[07:52] <Nahi> which im not gunna do right now ;p
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> yea. i  guess its a very good idea if you are on AC power most of the time - to just remove the battery.
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> but i havent done that for the last year+ so.. i bet the damage is done.
[07:52] <llutz> Lynoure: his battery is down to 50% of capacity (according to a former paste), so no worries anymore
[07:52] <Lynoure> Dr_Willis: unless you have people toppling over the wire or blackouts...
[07:53] <Nahi> THATS done
[07:53] <Nahi> now its showing 96%
[07:53] <Nahi> and going down
[07:53] <Nahi> ;p
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> having a battery in the laptop has saved me a few times when the power went out.
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> everyone else lost work.. i kept going.
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:53] <Nahi> no power outage around here
[07:53] <Nahi> ;p
[07:53] <Nahi> well brb
[07:53] <hero> is it possible to block flash advertisements in konqueror?
[07:54] <Nahi> leme try sth
[07:54] <cloakable> hero: it's possible to block advertisements straight.
[07:54] <lontra> brad: any luck?
[07:55] <hero> cloakable: well it's easy with images because you can right click and click 'block image' but not with flash ads. instead you get the flash menu instead.
[07:55] <cloakable> hero: Use filterset.g with the adblock stuff built into konqueror
[07:56] <hero> cloakable: i am.
[07:56] <hero> oh
[07:56] <hero> you mean a ruleset?
[07:56] <jhutchins> cloakable: How would you tell from the HTML what was an add and what was content in flash?
[07:58] <cloakable> jhutchins: Most ads are sourced not on the server you visit, but certain servers. doubleclick would be a good example.
[07:58] <cloakable> hero: Yeah
[07:58] <hero> can you just delete your entire ruleset and run filterset,g and be ok?
[07:58] <cloakable> AdBlock blocks those urls
[07:58] <cloakable> hero: I use the filterset.g rulset solely.
[07:59] <hero> sweet
[07:59] <jhutchins>   I run my own DNS that I've manually blocked a lot of ad servers with.
[08:00] <jhutchins> flash is the new <BLINK> tag.
[08:00] <shiv_j> I have a bunch of files with say xyz in there name. I want to move them to a certain folder which contain this name. How do I do it using krename or any ther program. Plz advise. I have been struggling for quite some time now
[08:00] <jhutchins> shiv_j: Use find.
[08:00] <shiv_j> I did that
[08:00] <shiv_j> but it wont move
[08:01] <llutz> shiv_j: find /dir -name *xyz* -exec mv {} /newdir \;
[08:01] <shiv_j> llutz: thanks let me try
[08:02] <llutz> shiv_j: in bash you may need to escape: find /dir -name \*xyz\* -exec mv {} /newdir \;
[08:03] <jhutchins> llutz: I usually quote strings like that.
[08:03] <llutz> jhutchins: better to be on the safe side
[08:03] <Assid> heya
[08:03] <Nahi> okay
[08:03] <Nahi> fixed ;p
[08:03] <Nahi> had to rebooot and lost my uptime :(
[08:04] <zimmo> hei
[08:04] <zimmo> i cannot get the mesa's files by the apt-get
[08:04] <zimmo> is there any other way to get it?
[08:04] <Assid> anyone here tried utorrent with wine?
[08:04] <llutz> Nahi: 1337-disaster
[08:04] <shiv_j> llutz: can u see this
[08:04] <shiv_j> [shiv@localhost Desktop] $ /Bracco *dti* -exec mv {} /BraccoDTI \;
[08:04] <shiv_j> bash: /Bracco: No such file or directory
[08:05] <Nahi> lol
[08:05] <Nahi> what ?
[08:05] <llutz> shiv_j: missing find
[08:05] <llutz> Nahi: low uptime = disaster for real nerds
[08:05] <Nahi> naaah
[08:05] <Nahi> its cause of a game
[08:05] <Nahi> thats why
[08:05] <Nahi> ;p
[08:05] <shiv_j> ?pastebin
[08:05] <Nahi> idlerpg
[08:06] <shiv_j> ? astebin
[08:06] <jhutchins> !paste
[08:06] <zimmo> is it common the OpenGL installiation via apt-get do not work?
[08:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:06] <llutz> shiv_j: find /Bracco -name \*dti\* -exec mv {} /BraccoDTI \;
[08:06] <jhutchins> zimmo: We can't tell you much about something that's not happening.  Tell us what _is_ happening.
[08:07] <shiv_j> llutz: let me try
[08:07] <zimmo> Paket libgl1-mesa-glx soll entfernt werden.
[08:07] <zimmo>   Paket libgl1 ist nicht installiert.
[08:07] <zimmo>   Paket libgl1-mesa-glide3, das libgl1 bereitstellt, ist nicht installiert.
[08:07] <zimmo>   Paket libgl1-mesa-glx, das libgl1 bereitstellt, soll entfernt werden.
[08:07] <zimmo>   Paket libgl1-mesa-swx11, das libgl1 bereitstellt, ist nicht installiert.
[08:07] <zimmo> they tell me the packages are not still installed to install the new ones
[08:07] <shiv_j> llutz: the dir Bracco is on desktop so I did this
[08:07] <shiv_j> [shiv@localhost Desktop] $ find /Bracco -name \*dti\* -exec mv {} /BraccoDTI \;
[08:07] <shiv_j> find: /Bracco: No such file or directory
[08:07] <shiv_j> [shiv@localhost Desktop] $
[08:08] <llutz> shiv_j: learn how use use pathes ;)
[08:08] <zimmo> and when I try to install libgl1-mesa-glide3, libgl1-mesa-glx and libgl1-mesa-swx11, they do not install anyway
[08:08] <llutz> shiv_j: find ~/Desktop/Bracco -name \*dti\* -exec mv {} ~/Desktop/BraccoDTI \;
[08:08] <jhutchins> I'm guessing that it should be either . or Braco/
[08:09] <shiv_j> llutz: I think thats working
[08:09] <shiv_j> let me see
[08:10] <zimmo> ?
[08:11] <zimmo> does anybody know what should I do?
[08:11] <_Shade_> hi
[08:11] <zimmo> or explain me...
[08:12] <_Shade_> i broke my update during apt-get update and now i am unable to do it again. What should i do?
[08:16] <jhutchins> _Shade_: We can't help unless you tell us what is happening.
[08:17] <_Shade_> jhutchins: i got the "resource is temporarily unavailable" message
[08:20] <_Shade_> jhutchins: the point is i haven't ran anything else that uses dpkg stuff
[08:20] <_Shade_> rysiek|pl: hi again
[08:21] <nicolai_> _Shade_: Try this: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+question/5409
[08:22] <rysiek|pl> _Shade_: yello
[08:22] <cabroni> which Qt version is embed in KDE?
[08:22] <rysiek|pl> cabroni: depends on KDE
[08:22] <rysiek|pl> cabroni: gimme a sec, I'll give ya a way to check that
[08:22] <knowledge25k> hello
[08:23] <knowledge25k> hi
[08:23] <fdoving> cabroni: you can check that with 'kde-config -v' from the commandline.
[08:23] <rysiek|pl> cabroni: fdoving was first ;)
[08:25] <_Shade_> nicolai_: thanks... just removing the lock file was enough for me
[08:26] <cabroni> it not showme about version, but i use kubuntu 7.05 dvd
[08:26] <vzduch> 7.05?  when did that come out? o0
[08:27] <nicolai_> _Shade_: No problem. It's a common problem, so I figured I could just reuse an older answer. :)
[08:27] <cabroni> .. 7.04 ;
[08:33] <sparr> kopete has recently started opening http://foo.bar in the file handler for *.bar (gimp for *.png, kate for *.php, etc), instead of in the handler for http://* (konqueror or mozilla).  help?
[08:39] <knowledge25k> *
[08:39] <knowledge25k> where can i find 3 d game
[08:40] <_4str1> knowledge25k: in adept :p
[08:40] <_4str1> knowledge25k: try openarena
[08:40] <nicolai_> knowledge25k: Try Nexuiz and Neverball
[08:41] <omega_> how can i install mirc for kubuntu
[08:41] <_4str1> cube2
[08:41] <_4str1> omega_: you should not
[08:41] <Lynoure> omega_: Why do you want to?
[08:41] <omega_> aaaa
[08:41] <_4str1> omega_: there are several other irc client
[08:41] <Lynoure> omega_: There are nice graphical irc client for linux, natively
[08:41] <omega_> how can i talk to a channel from romania
[08:42] <Lynoure> omega_: but if you need it for testing something, try with wine
[08:42] <omega_> like timisoara
[08:42] <ruzzz> hello russian :0
[08:42] <_4str1> omega_: ??? you have to know the server information and the channel
[08:42] <_4str1> that's it
[08:43] <omega_> thanks
[08:44] <_4str1> omega_: with those information you can connect the network with irc client
[08:44] <omega_> and if the server is undernet
[08:44] <omega_> and the channel is timisoara
[08:44] <_4str1> omega_: wich client are you using atm ?
[08:44] <omega_> how can i talk in that channel
[08:44] <_4str1> omega_: wich client are you using atm ?
[08:45] <omega_> aaaaa
[08:45] <vzduch> 'aaaaa' is not the name of a client ;)
[08:45] <omega_> i know
[08:45] <vzduch> ruzzz: NEVER, I repeat, NEVER go into IRC as root!
[08:46] <omega_> ok
[08:46] <_4str1> omega_: open konversation and add your sever in the list and the channel ...
 sanx
[08:47] <_4str1> the server adress will be : irc.undernet.org:6667 or something like this (look on google)
[08:50] <arun> can any of you see this: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8001/
[08:50] <_Shade_> i'm just downloading the updated packages using adept_updater. Can i use sudo apt-get install automatically when it ends?
[08:51] <vzduch> arun: that's in your private network
[08:51] <cloakable> arun: timeout
[08:51] <arun> vzduch: how do i enable it for people outside my network
[08:51] <genii> arun: as vzduch said, that range of numbers is a private range like 192.168.X.X   or so
[08:51] <vzduch> arun: try the outside IP of your router
[08:52] <_4str1> _Shade_: i think it will ask you to install them when downmoad finish
[08:52] <arun> vzduch: how do i find that
[08:52] <arun> can you see this: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8001/
[08:52] <vzduch> arun: lol
[08:52] <vzduch> that's also a private network IP
[08:53] <arun> ha so how do i find the public IP
[08:53] <_Shade_> _4str sure but i'd like to put it in my console, so that the apt-get start downloading when dpkg will be unused
[08:53] <arun> vzduch: if i go to whatismyip.com i get an ip address, but if i add :8001 to that, it doesn't work either
[08:53] <genii> arun:  you've covered 2 of the 3 ranges now put aside for private ranges LOL
[08:54] <vzduch> arun: the port doesn't matter
[08:54] <vzduch> for finding out the IP, that is
[08:54] <vzduch> arun: what does whatsmyip.com tell you what your IP is?
[08:54] <arun> <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:54] <_Shade_> is there any way to do so?
[08:55] <vzduch> arun: then use that
[08:55] <arun> vzduch: doesnt work
[08:55] <arun> try it
[08:56] <_4str1> arun: Only IE5.0 and above supported. :p
[08:56] <_4str1> arun: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/invalidbrowser.html
[08:56] <vzduch> _4str1: indeed
[08:56] <_Shade_> _4str any further ideas?
[08:56] <_4str1> _Shade_: i think i dont understand what you wanna do ...
[08:57] <arun> _4str1: what can i do about that? my isp has set that
[08:57] <_4str1> arun: if you have a router you have to setup it
[08:57] <genii> arun: Look into some service like DynDND and the package ez-ipupdate
[08:57] <genii> DynDNS rather
[08:58] <vzduch> it's supposed to land on http://<IP_ADDRESS>/24online/webpages/login.jsp, but that page redirects to the one mentioned above.. the error msg is obvious
[08:58] <arun> _4str1: i tried it using IE6 and it gives me an invalid page error
[08:59] <arun> how do i share my files with others using kpf?
[08:59] <arun> i've added a server
[08:59] <_4str1> arun: that is not a ubuntu problem ....
[08:59] <tao4mike> anyone know a good program for processing email, for instance removing text that is similar in multiple emails?  thanks
[09:02] <_4str1> arun: look in the faq of your isp
[09:05] <_Shade_> _4str1: i'm just doing update. When it is in progress i can't install another packages because the dpkg is busy. Is there any command that will download the packages when the dpkg will be unused?
[09:06] <sonhadorpr> I need help, with programs not opening in Kubuntu
[09:06] <SonhadorPR> is intelikey around?
[09:06] <Lynoure> SonhadorPR: no programs open, or some do not (which ones)?
[09:07] <_4str1> _Shade_: it's not a good idea to install tjings when you 're updating your system ...
[09:07] <_Shade_> SonhadorPR: which one doesn't work?
[09:07] <SonhadorPR> well....is kinda wierd.... they open just once, and if I close them and try to open them up again..they wont open
[09:07] <_4str1> _Shade_: that's very crazy !
[09:08] <SonhadorPR> Im having problems with the Exaile music player, and the Mozilla FireFox
[09:08] <_4str1> looks like : how can i drive my car while i'm in the train ....
[09:08] <_Shade_> _4str1: but it's impossible... apt-get won't allow me to do this. I just wanted it to do so after update
[09:08] <_4str1> _Sh
[09:08] <_4str1> sh
[09:09] <_4str1> oups
[09:09] <SonhadorPR> anybody know why this is happening?
[09:09] <_Shade_> _4str1: but it will last some time so i wanted to put the command (if there is any) to do so just AFTER the update
[09:09] <_Shade_> SonhadorPR: what's happening actually?
[09:10] <Raiden329> [14:06]  --> You have joined the channel #ubuntu (n=matt@<IP_ADDRESS>).
[09:10] <omega_> hy jeanette
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[09:10] <jhutchins> _Shade_: You can make one command dependant on the successful completion of another by using <comand one> && <command two>
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[09:10] <jhutchins> _Shade_: So sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:10] <omega_> hy melinda
[09:10] <SonhadorPR> _Shade_: I open the Exaile music player, or Mozilla fireFox....at least those 2 Im having problems with...I closed them, for any reason, and try to open them again..and they wont open.
[09:11] <_Shade_> jhutchins: i know that but the point is i have ran an adept updater already
[09:11] <_4str1> SonhadorPR: open a terminal and type : ps -A | grep firefox
[09:11] <karim_> hi all
[09:11] <marcos> oi
[09:11] <marcos> alguem tem como me ajudar com alguma dika de sala sobre hackers
[09:11] <SonhadorPR> dude, the terminal windows is not opening either right now
[09:11] <jhutchins> !es | marcos
[09:11] <SonhadorPR> I just now noticed
[09:11] <_4str1> _Shade_: that's what the adept updater do : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:11] <ubotu> marcos: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:12] <_Shade_> SonhadorPR: well i have the kind of issues sometimes as well... does it help if you try to run it several times... ?
[09:12] <_4str1> SonhadorPR: try ctrl + esc
[09:12] <_Shade_> SonhadorPR: and try to put these to your terminal and see what happens
[09:12] <SonhadorPR> no.....it just keeps trying to open them, but they dont open..it just hangs, and shuts down the program
[09:13] <jono> Does anyone here know how to setup the logitech MX5000 mouse and keyboard in bluetooth mode?
[09:13] <_4str1> SonhadorPR: try press ctrl + esc and see the process state
[09:13] <SonhadorPR> hold on...2 ppl giving different commands at the time...
[09:13] <_Shade_> _4str1: i know i know but i want it to install some software automatically after the update since i have to be away from my machine for a while
[09:14] <SonhadorPR> I did the ctrl esc..and a ProcessTable [modified]  KDE System Guard window came up
[09:14] <_4str1> SonhadorPR: so look for firefox for exemple
[09:14] <_Shade_> SonhadorPR: check if there are... oh nevermind :D
[09:15] <jhutchins> _Shade_: You can just type the next command while the update's running (in the same console).
[09:15] <jhutchins> _Shade_: If you'r trying to figure it out after you already started the update.
[09:15] <SonhadorPR> Im sorry newbie here...you mean search for it, or scroll down the list?....because its not on the list...
[09:15] <_4str1> _Shade_: or write a shell script
[09:16] <_4str1> ^^
[09:16] <_Shade_> jhutchins: well i don't think that's possible since i started adept clicking on it's icon
[09:16] <jhutchins> _Shade_: Ah.  Nothing you can do about that then.
[09:16] <_Shade_> jhutchins: ok then :) i'll wait some seconds :P
[09:16] <jhutchins> _Shade_: You can schedule the job for a time when you guess the update will be completed using the "at" command in console, not sure what the GUI equivalent is.
[09:17] <_4str1> _Shade_: set up a cron and test if adept-updater process is on, if not perform the installation if yes, try in 5 min
[09:17] <_Shade_> jhutchins: i could use the sleep command too but it's risky
[09:18] <_Shade_> jhutchins: because you never know when it's finished
[09:18] <SonhadorPR> ok...still holding on further instructions about the ProcessTable window......FireFox doesnt show up
[09:19] <_4str1> SonhadorPR: is it the first time you have the problem ?
[09:20] <_Shade_> SonhadorPR: what does console say when you type firefox in it?
[09:21] <SonhadorPR> yes...I just noticed it 10 minutes ago..
[09:21] <SonhadorPR> I log off, and they work again..but just once..
[09:21] <SonhadorPR> I re-boot, and they work again...but just once..
[09:21] <SonhadorPR> actually...If I open the music player first..then FireFox wont open period
[09:22] <_Shade_> SonhadorPR: abd what does konsole says ?
[09:22] <SonhadorPR> I don have a konsole open..
[09:22] <SonhadorPR> I have the ProcessTable [modified]  KDE System Guard window open
[09:22] <davf> Anyone can help me with this in k3b? Failed to retrieve all CSS keys.
[09:23] <_4str1> SonhadorPR: which music player ?
[09:23] <alli_sim> does anybody know why my GL apps are realy realy slow, like 386 slow? I have a ATI Radeon card
[09:23] <_Shade_> SonhadorPR: try to open up a terminal and type firefox
[09:23] <SonhadorPR> Exaile Music Player
[09:23] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: something is probably blocking the sound device, if you open a konsole and run 'sudo fuser -vki /dev/dsp' you might get a clue.
[09:23] <_4str1> SonhadorPR: i never try it
[09:23] <_Shade_> or exaile or whatever
[09:23] <SonhadorPR> The Terminal Window starts to open, but 1 second later shuts down...
[09:24] <rodrigo> the kubuntu sos have a litle problems
[09:24] <rodrigo> simple but are problems
[09:24] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: does alt+f2 'xterm' work ?
[09:24] <_Shade_> fdoving: but the issue connects to firefox as well so it might not be a sound device problem
[09:25] <SonhadorPR> yes...the run command window opened
[09:25] <root_> hello, hoping someone has advice, I thought my 8800gst was stoping loading kubuntu, now i know i have drivers installed right and can change resulution in recovery mode with nvidia settings tool and things look fine. system seems to stop loading jsut before the kubuntu splash screen any one help?
[09:26] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: does it work if you write 'xterm' and run it?
[09:26] <SonhadorPR> yup...there we go..
[09:26] <SonhadorPR> the terminal window is now open
[09:26] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: now, try 'sudo fuser -vki /dev/dsp'
[09:27] <_Shade_> hey guys i just finished the update and my kernel updated as well... which package should i remove to get rid of the older one?
[09:27] <N3WM0nk> ummm.. I am looking for help on the SC92031 issue???
[09:28] <SonhadorPR> nothing happened
[09:28] <ardchoille> !seveas
[09:28] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:29] <N3WM0nk> can someone help me to install ndiswrapper?
[09:29] <fdoving> _Shade_: linux-image-VERSION, where VERSION is the old version.
[09:29] <N3WM0nk> i cant get it to work...
[09:29] <SonhadorPR> fdoving: I typed the command, but nothing seemed to happen, now what?
[09:29] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: that means nothing is locking the sound device.
[09:30] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: what if you now try to write 'firefox' ?
[09:30] <SonhadorPR> ok...let me see..
[09:30] <cabroni> Hi again, try http://live.linux-gamers.net/ to play games
[09:31] <N3WM0nk> can someone help me to install ndiswrapper?
[09:31] <N3WM0nk> i cant get it to work...
[09:31] <SonhadorPR> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[09:31] <SonhadorPR> Major opcode: 155
[09:31] <SonhadorPR> Minor opcode: 3
[09:31] <SonhadorPR> Resource id: 0x0
[09:31] <SonhadorPR> Failed to open device
[09:32] <N3WM0nk> Plz can someone help me to install ndiswrapper? i cant get it to install...
[09:34] <SonhadorPR> fdoving: you got that?
[09:34] <_4strO> !baddevice | SonhadorPR
[09:34] <ubotu> SonhadorPR: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[09:34] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: yeah, but that is something else..
[09:35] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: what if you try 'konsole' ?
[09:35] <_4strO> lokks like it's a gtk pb
[09:35] <SonhadorPR> ok a shell konsole window just opned up
[09:36] <StoneNewt> not specifically kubuntu but as it's my distro right now, what are the driver problems with nVidia 8000 series cards?
[09:36] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: good, then konsole works atleast.
[09:36] <SonhadorPR> ok..now what?
[09:37] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: if you logout and back in, does everything work?
[09:37] <SonhadorPR> yes....but for one session...if I close it, it wont open up again
[09:38] <N3WM0nk> Plz can someone help me to install ndiswrapper? i cant get it to install...
[09:38] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: ouch, well.. i don't know. i'm not a firefox user. might get more usefull tips from #ubuntu.
[09:38] <fdoving> !patience | n3wm0nk
[09:38] <ubotu> n3wm0nk: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:39] <SonhadorPR> yeah....but I dont think its just the firefox....or mainly the firefox....nothing opens....just once....all the programs, they only open once...
[09:39] <SonhadorPR> I sure if I close the konversation, and try to open it again...itll do the same..
[09:39] <SonhadorPR> or maybe not..
[09:39] <SonhadorPR> NOT...the Opera web browser seems to work fine..
[09:40] <SonhadorPR> I open it and close it not probs..
[09:40] <N3WM0nk> ok
[09:40] <N3WM0nk> sorry sorry, i did not know who to contact...
[09:40] <Lynoure> SonhadorPR: Has this been this way for how long? past a reboot?
[09:40] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: ok, you can check ~/.xsession-errors, please paste some of it's content to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - you can probably use 'kate ~/.xsession-errors' from the xterm window.
[09:40] <Prophezy> #Ubuntu-se
[09:41] <SonhadorPR> since like 20 minutes ago....  I first noticed the the Exaile Music player wouldnt reopen..
[09:41] <SonhadorPR> and then I tried the Firefox..and the same thing..
[09:41] <SonhadorPR> and then , here ate this channel, somebody told me to open tjhe terminal window...and that wont open either
[09:41] <vzduch> SonhadorPR: the acute accent is NOT an apostrophe!
[09:43] <Lynoure> vzduch: and this is not a spelling competition :)
[09:43] <Carutsu> hello, is there a way to extract password protected rar files with Ark?
[09:43] <SonhadorPR> vzduch, I have set up my kb language to US-English-International, to be able to use accnts on letters, for I speak Spanish and Portuguese...but the  or        dont come up at all
[09:44] <Lynoure> SonhadorPR: I'd suspect some dcop hickup, and not worry before starting that or kde does not help
[09:45] <vzduch> SonhadorPR: how about then using a Spanish or Portuguese kbd layout? ;)
[09:45] <_Shade_> is there any good howto about installing xgl on kubuntu? i was searching at google, ubuntu documentation, forums and irc channels but none of these helped
[09:46] <SonhadorPR> fdoving: this is what came up on the window -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31938/
[09:46] <fdoving> Carutsu: doesn't it ask for the password? do you have unrar installed?
[09:47] <Carutsu> fdoving: as far as i know i have it, and no doesnt ask for password
[09:47] <Carutsu> let me check if i have unrar installed
[09:47] <SonhadorPR> vzduch: what for?  with my keyboard, my physical keyboard is in English...if I change the language to Spanish or Port, itll change the letters around....
[09:47] <TheCreationist> My friend recently got rid of her wireless router and is not connecting her Feisty box directly to the cable modem via ethernet.  Her ethernet adapter is recognized, but she has no connection to the internet (although her Windows laptop connects fine with the same cable).  I have already tried configuring it manually with DHCP, but no luck.  Anyone know what else I can try?
[09:48] <Carutsu> fdoving: yep i do have instaled unrar
[09:48] <fdoving> SonhadorPR: looks like exaile complains because of a locked database.
[09:48] <Lynoure> TheCreationist: configuring it manually, or with dhcp?
[09:48] <SonhadorPR> ok!!   how can I fix this?
[09:49] <galopez> jose, jose, estas aqui??...xD
[09:49] <SonhadorPR> No...Jos est all!!
[09:49] <galopez> ahmmmmm.....ok!
[09:49] <jhutchins> TheCreationist: Is it supposed to use pppoe?
[09:50] <Carutsu> the problem is that it's not asking for password, I will use unrar directly
[09:50] <Lynoure> SonhadorPR: like I said, I'd recommend just restarting X. Unless you are talking about the accent thing?
[09:50] <jhutchins> TheCreationist: Does she have a login for internet use?
[09:50] <Lynoure> SonhadorPR: then if it persists, it's time to dig deeper.
[09:50] <jhutchins> TheCreationist: Check the settings in Windows carefully, see what you need to duplicate in linux.
[09:50] <jhutchins> TheCreationist: She should be sure to run a firewall, the router may have had one for her.
[09:51] <_4strO> Carutsu: same pb here
[09:51] <SonhadorPR> Lyn: I know...but if only one program works at a time...thats not good......... I have to log-out every time I want to start a new program?
[09:51] <SonhadorPR> thats not fun....
[09:51] <_4strO> ark only give me a error message saying that he didn't ask me the password
[09:51] <SonhadorPR> I might al well use Windows all the time...
[09:52] <mikkael> is it dangerous to remove all -dev packages as im not compiling anything from now on :) ?
[09:52] <jhutchins> _4strO: ark doesn't work with passworded rar's, it doesn't have a mechanism to pass the password prompt back to the user.
[09:52] <_4strO> SonhadorPR: try to use your linux without launch youer media playert
[09:52] <fdoving> mikkael: no.
[09:52] <SonhadorPR> how can I change back to Ubuntu from Kubuntu...I might as well do that....Ubuntu never gave me these much problems!
[09:52] <mikkael> good this will free >300 mb
[09:53] <Lynoure> SonhadorPR: no, I'm suspecting this to be one time thing.
[09:53] <mikkael> oh you said NO
[09:53] <jhutchins> SonhadorPR: ask in #ubuntu or google "pure ubuntu".
[09:53] <Lynoure> SonhadorPR: but, well, it's your choice
[09:53] <SonhadorPR> 4stro, I want to be able to listen to music.....and surf the web
[09:53] <mikkael> nvm, i said dangerous, not safe ;)
[09:53] <SonhadorPR> ok..
[09:53] <_4strO> SonhadorPR: it's just for see if your player is the reason of your problems
[09:53] <SonhadorPR> Im gonna try to reboot, and launch again....Ill tel you what happens
[09:54] <galopez> program for listen music??
[09:54] <fdoving> galopez: amarok.
[09:54] <dmitri> hy guys,does anyone know if it is possible to execute pages that contain js with wget, so that i can wget the pagesource with the echo of the js
[09:54] <SonhadorPR> I think it is...because the Amarok also gave me problems
[09:54] <galopez> thanks
[09:54] <yurimxpxman> what's the best app to do simple video editing?
[09:54] <mikkael> avidemux ?
[09:54] <SonhadorPR> I changed the mp3 files to open with Exaile, when Amarok couldnt play them
[09:54] <_4strO> kino
[09:54] <alesan> hi what is the suer and pwd I have to use for the livecd, if I logout?
[09:54] <alesan> I am at the kdm prompt now
[09:55] <Ryaren> hi
[09:55] <Ryaren> How can I mount my DVD writer?
[09:55] <_4strO> alesan: root / without pass ?
[09:55] <alesan> _4strO, absolutely not :) come on
[09:55] <SonhadorPR> well....Im gonna reboot, and see what happens
[09:56] <fdoving> dmitri: no, wget doesn't understand javascript.
[09:56] <scotty> when I try to adjust my clock, I get "conversation with su failed"
[09:56] <jhutchins> dmitri: Yes, have a look at the man page for wget.
[09:56] <scotty> How do I fix it?
[09:56] <_4strO> alesan: so i dont know
[09:56] <jhutchins> Ryaren: Technically you can't.
[09:56] <_4strO> alesan: when you're in with the live CD root hasn't any pass
[09:56] <jhutchins> Ryaren: You could mount a CD/DVD that's in it.
[09:56] <alesan> _4strO, also in a normal instalation
[09:56] <alesan> installation
[09:57] <mikkael> xutils-dev and python2.5-dev depend on kubuntu-desktop, so i better keep those
[09:57] <_4strO> alesan: or when you type a root command, it didn't ask you a password
[09:57] <alesan> and for sure you cannot login on kdm with user root by default :)
[09:57] <Ryaren> jhutchins: How can I list my detected optical drives?
[09:57] <alesan> _4strO, the user has no password, not root
[09:57] <fdoving> alesan: what about 'ubuntu' with no password?
[09:57] <_4strO> alesan: right !
[09:57] <alesan> fdoving, not working
[09:57] <jhutchins> Ryaren: sudo fdisk -l will list all mountable media.
[09:57] <alesan> fdoving, not even kubuntu was working
[09:58] <fdoving> alesan: what if you just restart KDM?
[09:58] <alesan> fdoving, I gave up I am now rebooting...
[09:58] <jhutchins> Ryaren: If a drive is empty, it won't list though.
[09:58] <TheCreationist> jhutchins: As fas as I know, she doesn't need any kind of login.  She uses comcast high-speed, which I use as well.  Ubuntu detected and connected automatically for me and she has basically an identical setup.
[09:58] <fdoving> alesan: restarting KDM only should work, as autologin probably is enabled.
[09:58] <Ryaren> huhh
[09:58] <Ryaren> ok
[09:59] <Carutsu2> _4strO: friend, use the folowing command: unrar x <PATH_OF_FILE>
[09:59] <edina> hello
[09:59] <Carutsu2> _4strO: then it will ask for the password
[09:59] <_4strO> Carutsu2: yes i know ;)
[09:59] <Carutsu2> _4strO: then you could've told me
[09:59] <edina> anyone knows how to read my files from vista in kubuntu?
[09:59] <jhutchins> TheCreationist: She may need to reset the modem, sometimes they lock in the MAC of whatever is connected to them.
[10:00] <jhutchins> TheCreationist: reset modem, then restart networking on the PC.
[10:00] <yurimxpxman> mikkael: do you know what media backend avidemux uses?
[10:00] <alesan> what is that lists at the beginning of boot process the options like "start or install ubuntu" "safe graphics" and so on? Isolinux?
[10:00] <Ryaren> Okay it is working now thank you very much jhutchins
[10:00] <mikkael> yurimxpxman: nope, im not using it
[10:00] <mikkael> gstreamer ?
[10:01] <_4strO> alesan: try yo reboot and when you're into the livecd session type 'whoami' in a terminal ;)
[10:01] <edina> anyone?
[10:01] <dmitri> jhutchins: i have 3 times readed the wget man
[10:01] <stoned> hehe
[10:01] <stoned> readed
[10:02] <mikkael> edina: you have to mount your windows partition
[10:02] <edina> ok, how?
[10:02] <dmitri> technically i have to execute the page with wget and pipe with a java script interpreter
[10:02] <dmitri> and i dont know how to do that
[10:02] <edina> what did went to storage media
[10:02] <edina> i see an os
[10:02] <mikkael> edina: there should be a good howto in a wiki
[10:02] <edina> when i try to mount it i got an error message
[10:02] <TheCreationist> jhutchins: Okay, I'll try that.  How do I reset networking?  ifdown?
[10:03] <_4strO> yes
[10:03] <SonhadorPR> ok folks..
[10:03] <jhutchins> TheCreationist: /etc/init.d/network restart
[10:03] <edina> where? i searched the ubuntu site for 30 min now
[10:03] <fdoving> !ntfs | edina
[10:03] <ubotu> edina: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:03] <lontra> hi i have two questions ... 1.  what is the default size of the kicker and 2.  how does kubuntu make that icon effect and is it available on kde-look?
[10:03] <SonhadorPR> I rebooted, and Im back...now Ill attempt to use FireFox
[10:03] <TheCreationist> jhutchins: Alright, thank you.
[10:03] <SonhadorPR> ok...FireFox is opened
[10:04] <SonhadorPR> Noe...I shall close it, and try to open it again
[10:04] <SonhadorPR> its working....
[10:04] <edina> let me try this script thing its talking about
[10:04] <SonhadorPR> I do believe the problems consists in the Music Player..
[10:05] <SonhadorPR> shit!
[10:05] <jhutchins> !language | SonhadorPR
[10:05] <ubotu> SonhadorPR: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:05] <_4strO> ^^
[10:05] <SonhadorPR> I do apologize!
[10:05] <jhutchins> SonhadorPR: What music player are you trying to use?
[10:06] <SonhadorPR> I had a problem using the Amorok, since it wouldnt play MP3s...
[10:06] <SonhadorPR> so I change it to Exaile, since it did play them..
[10:06] <SonhadorPR> but apparently the program hanged for some reason..
[10:06] <vzduch> Studio Brussel playing some really nice music tonight :)
[10:06] <jhutchins> SonhadorPR: try this: rm .xine (in console)
[10:06] <SonhadorPR> it played one song, I shut it down...and then tryied to open it up again...and it wouldnt ..
[10:06] <SonhadorPR> however this also affected the other programs as well...FireFox and even the Terminal Window
[10:07] <jhutchins> SonhadorPR: I'd say don't use that program any more!
[10:07] <_4strO> and get the right codecs
[10:07] <jhutchins> !info Exaile
[10:07] <ubotu> exaile: flexible audio player, similar to Amarok, but written in GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8+debian-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 294 kB, installed size 1408 kB
[10:07] <SonhadorPR> ok  I wont...then what do you suggest for playing MP#s, since the amorok doesnt like them
[10:07] <SonhadorPR> ?
[10:07] <_4strO> !codecs | SonhadorPR
[10:07] <ubotu> SonhadorPR: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:07] <Daisuke_Ido> install the right codecs then
[10:08] <Daisuke_Ido> amarok works just fine.
[10:08] <jhutchins>  http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2006/12/03/amarok-suddenly-stops-playing-mp3s/
[10:08] <edina> mikkael
[10:08] <SonhadorPR> well amorok told me that it didnt like mp3s
[10:08] <edina> thank you very much
[10:09] <vzduch> SonhadorPR: if so, it lacks codecs
[10:09] <mikkael> edina, whats your language ?
[10:09] <SonhadorPR> something about getting codecs to play yhem..I tell it to go ahead...but it doesnt do anything
[10:09] <edina> magyar
[10:09] <jhutchins> SonhadorPR: read the restricted formats page and follow the relevant links.
[10:09] <vzduch> !hu | edina
[10:09] <ubotu> edina: Magyar nyelv segtsget az #ubuntu-hu csatornn tall
[10:09] <edina> english is good enough thanks
[10:10] <SonhadorPR> it tellsm me it cannot remove xine, it is a directory
[10:10] <_4strO> edina: ^^
[10:10] <jhutchins> Cool!  Didn't know we had a hungarian channel.
[10:10] <SonhadorPR> Why do I want to remove xine
[10:10] <SonhadorPR> ?
[10:10] <Daisuke_Ido> wtf are you doing?
[10:10] <vzduch> jhutchins: hrhr, ever you can learn something here ;)
[10:10] <jhutchins> SonhadorPR: That just removes a file from your home directory, like a bookmark file.
[10:10] <jhutchins> vzduch: I try to every day!
[10:11] <mikkael> edina, first of all you need to create a folder, where you will mount your windows in
[10:11] <jhutchins> SonhadorPR: That assumes that Amarok was working and stopped.
[10:11] <Prophezy> !permission
[10:11] <edina> this script did everything
[10:11] <mikkael> sudo mkdir /media/vista
[10:11] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[10:11] <vzduch> edina: no need to pull a face, it was just a hint :)
[10:11] <Daisuke_Ido> SonhadorPR: i would like to recommend installing libxine-extracodecs
[10:12] <SonhadorPR> ok..let me go ahead and do that.... Ill let you know what happens
[10:12] <mikkael> i wouldnt trust a script in that case
[10:12] <mikkael> in case you got IDE-Drive, and hda1 is your linux partition type: sudo mount -t ntfs -o defaults,uid=0,gid=46,umask=007 /dev/hda1 /mount/vista
[10:13] <mikkael> ehm your windows partitoin*
[10:13] <mikkael> replace hda1 with your windows partition..
[10:13] <jhutchins> mikkael: Where are you coming up with the gid?
[10:13] <_4strO> lol
[10:13] <edina> thank u for everything it was much faster than reading the forums
[10:14] <mikkael> im pasting from a wiki
[10:14] <vzduch> jhutchins: the gid is created by ntfsconfig (or what was the name again?) afaik
[10:14] <edina> it looks like its working i can see the files...
[10:15] <vzduch> jhutchins: I too had that after my first Kubuntu install when I used Automatix to set up ntfs-3g.. on 2nd install I did that by hand but took over that fstab line because it works :)
[10:15] <mikkael> edina: you got read-only access, and this is only temporary
[10:16] <_4strO> mikkael: jhutchins gid=46 looks like the gid for an external HD
[10:16] <edina> the script said i will get this acces everytime i start linux
[10:16] <mikkael> if you want to have this mounted every boot you need to edit your !fstab
[10:16] <jhutchins> Ah, I see, it's the plugdev group.
[10:16] <_4strO> yup
[10:16] <mikkael> edina: now you didnt use your script, right
[10:16] <_4strO> for an internal one gid=1000 should be better :p
[10:16] <jhutchins> !automatix
[10:16] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:16] <edina> i did it
[10:17] <_4strO> or gid=100
[10:17] <edina> did exactly what that page said
[10:17] <mikkael> give the link please
[10:17] <mikkael> !WorksForMe
[10:17] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:17] <edina> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:18] <edina> anyway i got another question
[10:18] <edina> i have a dell amd64 computer that i just installed kubuntu yesterday
[10:19] <edina> my videocard is ati
[10:19] <Daisuke_Ido> poor child
[10:19] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm so sorry :(
[10:19] <edina> but at my display i got a vesa driver and i cant set the monitor to 1280X960
[10:20] <Daisuke_Ido> edina: may have to install fglrx
[10:20] <_4strO> edina: wich ati card ?
[10:20] <vzduch> jhutchins: no need to tell me that ;)
[10:20] <edina> its kinda blurry and distorted now since it is not the right proprtion but i cant choose this resolution
[10:20] <edina> where d i look into to see the exact type?
[10:21] <_4strO> edina:  lspci | grep VGA in a terminal
[10:21] <mikkael> of your gfx-card ?
[10:22] <vzduch> edina: your xorg.conf has a 'Section "Monitor"', there you have to specify a 'HorizSync' and a 'VertRefresh' value in the form aa-bb (w/ aa being the lowest and bb the highest value your monitor can handle)
[10:22] <edina> said: ATI Tech Inc unknown device 7183
[10:23] <_4strO> :/
[10:23] <_4strO> weird
[10:23] <edina> my monitor is a wide screen flat panel
[10:23] <edina> have this different type of plug
[10:23] <_4strO> that is not the problem
[10:24] <edina> now it goes as a plugnplay monitor becasue it is not among the dell monitors
[10:25] <_4strO> edina: the problem is that your kernel doesn't see which video card you have
[10:25] <edina> well that does not sound good
[10:25] <_4strO> and then set the vesa driver otherwise setting a radeon or fglrx one
[10:26] <_4strO> edina:yo can try to set one manually
[10:26] <edina> will not kill my display\/
[10:27] <_4strO> edina: type this : sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.bak
[10:27] <edina> i already changed it once and it went unreadable had to reinstall the whole thing becasue all igot is the command line and i am not that good to live wihout X
[10:28] <_4strO> edina: you want to know more about it or just leave it ?
[10:28] <edina> i want to use it properly
[10:28] <edina> with the right proportions at least
[10:28] <cje> hi, I am just installing kubuntu edgy, and I am interested in getting a video-related package called smilutils.  What repository do I need to enable in the Adept Package manager, please?
[10:28] <edina> and sharper if its possible
[10:28] <edina> like vista does
[10:29] <_4strO> edina: wich driver you tried ?
[10:29] <nicolai_> cje: Why install Edgy now Feisty has been released?
[10:29] <edina> I DID NOT CHANGE THE DRIVER BUT INSTEAD OF PLUG AN PLAY I CHOOSE A MONITOR THAT HAD W AS I GUESS WIDE IN THE LIST
[10:29] <edina> sorry abot caps
[10:30] <cje> nicolai_: I am installing Edgy because my guru wrote a bunch of tools for Edgy specifically.
[10:30] <edina> shoukd i backup my xorg file now?
[10:31] <_4strO> edina: yep
[10:31] <cje> nicolai_: I am producing a documentary film called "The Digital Tipping Point" for Windows noobs about how cool FOSS is, and I am using all Free Software tools to do it.
[10:31] <_4strO> edina: we gonna try to change the driver
[10:31] <edina> i just did the backup
[10:31] <_4strO> edina: if X wont restart correctly, have you gat a liveCD N?
[10:31] <_4strO> got*
[10:31] <cje> nicolai_:  But we have standardized on Edgy, and I can't bug him to update to Feisty, because he wrote the tools for free.
[10:32] <edina> yeah that what i used to reinstall the whole thing
[10:32] <_4strO> edina: ok so you dont need to reinstall it, just use the liveCD to reconnect here ;)
[10:32] <jhutchins> !find smiutils
[10:32] <ubotu> Package/file smiutils does not exist in feisty
[10:32] <edina> ok
[10:32] <edina> good idea:)
[10:32] <_4strO> edina: ;)
[10:33] <edina> what now?
[10:33] <_4strO> edina: so now type : kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:33] <_4strO> edina: and paste the whole file
[10:33] <nicolai_> cje: I can see the smilutils package in Feisty with medibuntu repository and main, restricted, universe, multiverse enabled for all repositories.
[10:33] <cje> nicolai_: here are the tools and what we use them for:  http://digitaltippingpoint.com/wiki/index.php?title=From_Tape_to_Archive
[10:33] <_4strO> !paste | edina
[10:33] <ubotu> edina: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:34] <_4strO> just in case ...
[10:34] <cje> nicolai_: k, thanks!  I will try enabling multiverse, I guess?
[10:34] <edina> its pretty long...
[10:35] <Schuenemann> how do I remove xubuntu?
[10:35] <SonhadorPR> how do I remove kubuntu?
[10:35] <edina> how do i do this\/ where?
[10:35] <_4strO> edina: ctrl + c and up arrow
[10:35] <Daisuke_Ido> SonhadorPR: get the codec package installed?
[10:35] <_4strO> lol SonhadorPR
[10:36] <Schuenemann> Is removing xubuntu-desktop enough?
[10:36] <edina> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31948/
[10:36] <edina> cool
[10:36] <Daisuke_Ido> xubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage
[10:36] <Schuenemann> what do I have to do?
[10:37] <edina> it does knwo my monitor type...
[10:38] <_4strO> edina: ok just try to replace "vesa" by "radeon" in the 86 line
[10:38] <nicolai_> cje: According to adept the filename is: pool/universe/s/smilutils/smilutils/smilutils_0.3.0-12build1_i386.deb
[10:38] <edina> but does not give me the option to choose the right proportion
[10:39] <edina> i guess i do it inthe graphical interface... i that ok?
[10:39] <_4strO> yes
[10:39] <Schuenemann> how do I remove xubuntu?
[10:39] <_4strO> Schuenemann: sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop
[10:40] <edina> now apply i guess...
[10:40] <Schuenemann> that is just a meta-package
[10:40] <_4strO> Schuenemann: but some apps will stay
[10:40] <_4strO> edina: save ;)
[10:40] <Schuenemann> I need them removed
[10:40] <edina> says it not been succesfully tested
[10:40] <_4strO> :/
[10:40] <edina> same error message that i got th elast time when it went astray
[10:41] <cje> nicolai_: I am getting closer, but I still appear to have a problem.  I have Adept open.  I click on Adept > manage repositories and then I scroll down and right click on deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main restricted univers multiverse and then I do a search for smilutils in Adept, but the search yields no results.  What am I doing wrong, please?
[10:42] <_4strO> Schuenemann: many xubuntu packages begin with xfce
[10:43] <edina> there is test button
[10:43] <_4strO> Schuenemann: you should try a research in adept for ex
[10:43] <Schuenemann> meaning?
[10:43] <edina> it went black then it came back...
[10:43] <Schuenemann> there must be a better way that does not require removing individual packages
[10:44] <nicolai_> cje: I believe it is because the package is not available in Edgy, but I can check fo you if you want.
[10:44] <_4strO> Schuenemann: i dont know another way sorry
[10:45] <nicolai_> cje: I've found the link for the feisty package
[10:45] <edina> is there a way to see what ati card i got or jsut look into from vista?
[10:45] <_4strO> Schuenemann: remove the meta package and then find the xfce* packages
[10:46] <_4strO> edina: look for some stickers on your computer or get the manuals
[10:46] <cje> nicolai_: Thanks, that is kind of you to offer to look for the Edgy package.  And with regard to Feisty, I am not going to be able to use it because we are standardized on Edgy. .  I am in a computer that has PClinuxOS installed.  I am going to log off of this computer and log into another box that has the tools installed.  I will be back in about 5 mins.  see ya.
[10:46] <_4strO> edina: you said it's a dell ?
[10:46] <edina> i just tried ati but it did nto work eother
[10:46] <edina> yes
[10:46] <_4strO> edina: so get the reference like serial number and go to their website
[10:47] <_4strO> edina: or just the model name
[10:48] <edina> inspiron 531
[10:50] <edina> well it came with vista and i cant get the driver from a pulldown menu for linux...
[10:51] <edina> there are ati drivers btu they are for vista i think...
[10:51] <_4strO> edina: Carte graphique ATI Radeon X1300 Pro de 256 Mo i think
[10:52] <_4strO> edina: http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/inspndt_531?c=fr&l=fr&s=dhs&cs=frdhs1
[10:53] <edina> its french...
[10:53] <edina> the link you sent...
[10:54] <_4strO> ho sorry
[10:54] <_4strO> try to find yours
[10:54] <edina> i did but like i said i dont see any linux drivers
[10:54] <edina> only these .exe files
[10:56] <_4strO> edina: try with the fglrx driver
[10:58] <_4strO> edina: it should work
[10:58] <edina> radeon x 1300 pro 256 card
[10:58] <edina> i just looked it up from my order
[10:58] <edina> fglrx? let me see
[11:00] <edina> i choose the ati radeon fglrx driver tested it went black came back to the old one
[11:01] <edina> maybe on the ati site?
[11:01] <Aranel> how can i mount a .iso or .cue file in Kubuntu ? (virtual cd. like Daemon Tools in windows)
[11:01] <zombielion> Can anyone help with devede
[11:01] <_4strO> edina: noway it should work
[11:01] <edina> i can try it again
[11:02] <Vuen> hi there. anyone use kmail with gnupg? i'm having trouble decrypting messages.
[11:02] <BluesKaj> edina: dunno if this'll work for your ati radeon but it does for my elcheapo onboard X200G: http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[11:02] <Vuen> when i view a message that has been encrypted, it just says "error: bad passphrase" and can't decrypt it. but it never actually asks for the passphrase.
[11:02] <edina> there is a lsit under driver but there isnt a fglx there only under manufacturers
[11:03] <Vuen> if i save the message and decrypt it via command line, i can read it just fine.
[11:03] <Vuen> anyone know what's wrong?
[11:03] <_4strO> edina: fglrx :p
[11:03] <_4strO> edina: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI should be easyer
[11:04] <edina> yes now i chose that one like before going to test it...
[11:04] <Aranel> how can i mount a .iso or .cue file in Kubuntu ? (virtual cd. like Daemon Tools in windows)
[11:04] <edina> nothing but 2 seconds of blacknes and one flickering then come back the same state
[11:04] <BluesKaj> edina, the URL I posted gives 3D and Direct rendering for apps like google earth that need 3D graphics
[11:04] <Vuen> nevermind, it looks like i'm just missing gnupg-agent
[11:05] <_4strO> Aranel: not sure but mplayer should do it
[11:05] <hsn_> !java
[11:05] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:05] <edina> well anyway i got the wrong monitor from dell they should me the right one the ultrasharp one btu i guess it wont work either properly...
[11:05] <Schuenemann> Aranel, I think you can mount the iso using 'mount'
[11:06] <Aranel> Schuenemann: like mount /iso/file /mnt/cdrom1  ?
[11:06] <vzduch> Aranel: the other way round
[11:06] <_4strO> edina: wich resolution you need ?
[11:06] <Schuenemann> I don't know the syntax exacly, it has -o something
[11:06] <Schuenemann> iso9336 or something like that
[11:07] <edina> right now i jsut want a 1280x960
[11:07] <Aranel> Schuenemann: :)
[11:07] <Schuenemann> Aranel, is the .cue .mdf?
[11:07] <vzduch> something like 'sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/file.iso /media/cdrom1
[11:07] <edina> but i guess it can do something better but what i care the most the right proportion not the 4:3
[11:07] <Schuenemann> yes heh
[11:07] <Schuenemann> very different hehe
[11:07] <_4strO> edina: type in a terminal : kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:07] <Aranel> Schuenemann: i converted .cue to .iso . I need mounting .iso file
[11:07] <BluesKaj> how do I make this command permanent in startup ? , xmodmap -e "remove lock = Caps_Lock"... hate that caps lock key
[11:08] <Schuenemann> Aranel, how did you?
[11:08] <savetheWorld> BluesKaj: for which user?
[11:08] <Aranel> Schuenemann: i can't remember :P maybe "bchunk" , i'm not sure.
[11:08] <BluesKaj> only me using this pc
[11:08] <_4strO> edina: and put a "1280x960" in front of all lines who have screen resiolution
[11:08] <Schuenemann> :-/
[11:08] <savetheWorld> BluesKaj: you can try putting it in your .xinitrc,
[11:09] <edina> ok wont it mess it up?
[11:09] <BluesKaj>   /etc/.xinitrc
[11:10] <BluesKaj> ?
[11:10] <_4strO> edina: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31957/
[11:10] <_4strO> edina: like this
[11:10] <_4strO> edina: if this resolution wont work xorg will pass to the next one
[11:10] <edina> ok
[11:10] <zombielion> is this for real cant nobody help with devede im sure someone knows something
[11:11] <Schuenemann> !ask | zombielion
[11:11] <ubotu> zombielion: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:11] <_4strO> edina: then save the file and resta X by exit session or press ctrl alt sup (it will be more violent)
[11:11] <_4strO> edina: ctrl alt del :p
[11:12] <edina> ok i modified it
[11:12] <edina> sup?
[11:12] <jhutchins> _4strO: Maybe ctrl-alt-backspace?
[11:12] <_4strO> loool yup
[11:12] <edina> yeah that what i thought
[11:13] <edina> ok
[11:13] <zombielion> fine the last time i really asked it i still didnt get help. everytime i sucessfully convert an avi to iso with devede there are lines in the movie it didnt convert right or somthing and then the other times it just stops running and locks up after it converts the movie and is just making the iso. no the os just the app
[11:13] <BluesKaj> savetheWorld, where is the .xinitrc file located in / or /etc or ... ?
[11:13] <edina> let see if u dont here from me buy some flowers
[11:13] <_4strO> sorry i'm a little french and high ! :p
[11:13] <savetheWorld> BluesKaj:  in the user's home directory
[11:14] <jhutchins> zombielion: about 969,000 English pages for transcoding avi. (0.06 seconds)
[11:14] <_4strO> ^^
[11:14] <noldo> howto install openGL to ubuntu? please, help!
[11:14] <jhutchins> zombielion: Are you trying to make a DVD that will play in a normal player?
[11:15] <noldo> no
[11:15] <bind> como instalar o Skype no Kubuntu?
[11:15] <cj> hey, i upgraded my dapper install to feisty but am now stuck with a US keyboard layout despite tweaking xorg.conf - am i missign a package?
[11:15] <edina> hi guys
[11:15] <BluesKaj> nope not in mine , savetheWorld
[11:15] <zombielion> ya
[11:15] <edina> i got the right proportions
[11:16] <jhutchins> !skype | bind
[11:16] <ubotu> bind: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[11:16] <zombielion> i just go into video dvd
[11:16] <bind> thanks!!
[11:16] <savetheWorld> BluesKaj:  hmm. you can try your .bash_profile or your .bashrc then
[11:16] <zombielion> and it seems the more i search the more i find command line ways to make a dvd i think that it is 2007 it should have an interface by now
[11:16] <edina> it looks much better now
[11:17] <zombielion> well you know what i mean
[11:17] <jhutchins> zombielion: I use the tovid package.  I suggest you browse around and read about the process, it's somewhat complex.
[11:17] <edina> still not as sharp as i would like but ok
[11:17] <BluesKaj>  /.bashrc ?
[11:17] <jhutchins> zombielion: Video processing is customarily done from the command line.
[11:17] <jhutchins> zombielion: You don't think shrek was created under gnome, do you?
[11:17] <intelikey> BluesKaj ~/.bash_bashrc  in ubuntu i think
[11:18] <edina> now i am happy thank you very much
[11:18] <jhutchins> zombielion: Tovid does include some nice GUI wrappers, but it also shows you what commands they're generating.
[11:18] <jhutchins> zombielion: The command line is MUCH more powerful.
[11:19] <edina> a u rovier
[11:21] <Guilty_as_Sin> is anyone here familiar w/ nx (no machine's version that is)
[11:21] <neverblue> ssh tunnelling, say I want to use local hardware on remote software, is that possible (using a softphone, trying to make a call on this box, from my remote box) ?
[11:21] <nicolai_> cj: look in "system settings -> region and language"
[11:21] <jhutchins> neverblue: Nope.  You can execute what's on the remote box and have it display locally.
[11:22] <Guilty_as_Sin> neverblue..  that sounds interesting, I also would like to know the answer to that question
[11:22] <Guilty_as_Sin> oic
[11:23] <neverblue> jhutchins, so no way to handle control of the hardware?
[11:23] <Guilty_as_Sin> missed that last line
[11:23] <jhutchins> neverblue: Actually, twisted thinking, you could ssh to the remote box, ssh back, execute your local programs and have them pipe output to the remote, but then the remote would forward the display back to you.
[11:23] <cj> nicolai_: it doesn't seem to have any Available layouts
[11:23] <neverblue> ok...
[11:23] <neverblue> seems like alot
[11:23] <neverblue> ill just talk to my sys::admin :)
[11:23] <jhutchins> There ya go.
[11:23] <Guilty_as_Sin> in configuring nx all machines need both server and client packages. correct?
[11:24] <nicolai_> cj: no available or no active layouts? left or right coloum?
[11:24] <Guilty_as_Sin> I've been trying to read there manual but it seems that there manual is a bit choppy, or so it seems to me
[11:25] <cj> nicolai_: both are blank
[11:25] <neverblue> cannot do it :((
[11:28] <nicolai_> cj: try installing language-selector-qt and  language-selector-common
[11:28] <BluesKaj> nope , capslock is evil and can be defeated in systemsettings somehow , but i've forgotten ...it has to do with changing it's function to the ctrl key
[11:30] <intelikey> hmmm capslock >> enter   there's a thought...
[11:30] <mjmkb> for NX, I use the "client" for windows and had to install "server", "client" & "node" on my linux box.
[11:30] <intelikey> but i use caps lock so i wont do that
[11:31] <nicolai_> cj: also try installing  xkb-data
[11:34] <goodhabit> Hello! Can somebody help me? I have troubles with aptitude upgrade: http://nopaste.com/p/aaBy3nBRO
[11:34] <cj> nicolai_: all already installed
[11:35] <goodhabit> Problem is in dbus.
[11:35] <goodhabit> I don't know how to fix it.
[11:35] <ubuntu__> Hello
[11:35] <ubuntu__> Hello?
[11:36] <intelikey> goodhabit actually the problem is not in dbus it's in the init script for dbus
[11:36] <goodhabit> Whatever, i am a newbie on Linux :\
[11:36] <ubuntu__> I want to install kubuntu, I also would like to have a shared home partition with windows.
[11:36] <ubuntu__> can anyone help?
[11:36] <goodhabit> And i can't fix it myself.
[11:37] <jhutchins> goodhabit: what happens if you do sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:37] <goodhabit> ubuntu__: What means shared home partition?
[11:37] <goodhabit> dpkg --configure -a : http://nopaste.com/p/az1BPS6kU
[11:37] <ubuntu__> A partition that can be accesed in windows also linux
[11:38] <johann> ubuntu_: jast make a partition in FAT so you can access from win and linux
[11:38] <jhutchins> ubuntu__: Linux can access almost any filesystem, so you can just share the windows partition.  It's best to put linux on it's own partition, and to have a swap partition as well, so 3 partitions.
[11:38] <goodhabit> ubuntu__: Or there other solutions. For windows exist ext driver. For linux - ntfs driver. But better delete windows )
[11:39] <cje_> hi, I'm back.  I am trying to install a video package called transcode on Edgy Kubuntu.  Can someone please help me find the proper repository that would have it?
[11:39] <ubuntu__> I mean an actual "home" partition.
[11:40] <jhutchins> goodhabit: Try sudo apt-get --purge remove dbus
[11:40] <intelikey> jhutchins !
[11:41] <jhutchins> intelikey: No?
[11:41] <cj> jhutchins: one partition for the linux filesystem is too few in my oppinion
[11:41] <intelikey> jhutchins i'll try to stay out of it,  but did you check that command to see what all it took with it ?
[11:41] <nicolai_> cj: then your layout-problem needs someone more qualified than me looking at it :/
[11:41] <goodhabit> purgind debus wants to remove many other packages liki kubuntu-desktop, hal etc. I think it will not very good.
[11:42] <nicolai_> cje_: Wasn't it smilutils you needed?
[11:42] <cj> nicolai_: probably a problem with the dist-upgrade
[11:42] <jhutchins> cj: I prefer mine that way.  Murphy's law says that if you partition, the space you need will be on the other partition.
[11:42] <intelikey> jhutchins i don't think he can even purge it until it's configured...    dpkg is a pita on that
[11:42] <cje_> nicolai_, I was able to get smilutils installed somehow.  not sure how.
[11:42] <jhutchins> intelikey: Please feel free to jump in, I'm pretty new to apt/deb stuff.  Can't you tell it to _just_ remove dpkg?
[11:42] <cj> jhutchins: thats where LVM comes in handy
[11:43] <nicolai_> cje_: it turned up on its own? :P
[11:43] <jhutchins> cj: lvm is evil
[11:43] <cje_> nicolai_, so thanks for helping with smilutils.
[11:43] <intelikey> jhutchins ok. i pm'd him a dirty hack  all fixed now.
[11:43] <jhutchins> intelikey: Cool.
[11:43] <cje_> nicolai_, heh, no I was tweaking the repositories, and something must have worked.  Not sure what.
[11:43] <jhutchins> intelikey: Care to share?
[11:44] <cje_> nicolai_, it all happens so quickly, I can't always follow it.
[11:45] <nicolai_> cje_: I know the ffeling. Transcode is in multiverse on my computer.
[11:45] <ubuntu_linux> hello
[11:45] <ubuntu_linux> What command installing nvidia drivers under Kubuntu?
[11:45] <jhutchins> !nvidia | ubuntu_linux
[11:45] <ubotu> ubuntu_linux: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:46] <nicolai_> cje_: If you can't find the package I can provide you a link to both the tarball and a .deb that might work
[11:47] <hasan_> what does bleeding edge mean ?
[11:47] <hasan_> and cutting edge ?
[11:47] <nicolai_> cje_: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/t/transcode/
[11:47] <Daisuke_Ido> hasan_: not ready for production use
[11:47] <Daisuke_Ido> brand new stuff that's a lot more likely to break
[11:47] <nicolai_> hasan_: cutting edge = the best/newest there is
[11:47] <cje_> nicolai: thanks, now I have to figure out how to install it.
[11:47] <hasan_> ok thx nicolai:
[11:47] <jhutchins> cutting pretty much == bleeding.
[11:48] <nicolai_> hasan_: bleeding = not finished
[11:48] <hasan_> so i should not add them to my repository ?
[11:48] <intelikey> jhutchins and you can see why i didn't bother the "mostly beginners,"  channel with that.
[11:48] <Daisuke_Ido> um...   huh?
[11:48] <jhutchins> hasan_: Usually used in the context that if you are going to run the very newest hardware/software/whatever, you're going to have to expect that it will break and possibly do damage.
[11:48] <nicolai_> jhutchins: so bleeding = alpha and cutting = beta? :P
[11:48] <hasan_> in negative sense or not ready to use
[11:48] <hasan_> ok
[11:49] <hasan_> i ll not add then
[11:49] <jhutchins> nicolai_: Depends, different people use it differently.
[11:49] <hasan_> what about upstream ?
[11:49] <jhutchins> nicolai_: Some people would say they're the same thing, some would say "cutting edge" means released.
[11:49] <hasan_> upstream opera upstream beryl ?
[11:49] <jhutchins> beryl is a good example of bleeding edge.
[11:50] <nicolai_> hasan_: upstream is what the main developers work on
[11:50] <jhutchins> bleeding edge also implies that just because something is newer doesn't mean it's better.
[11:50] <nicolai_> nicolai_: downstream is what distributions et. al work with
[11:51] <intelikey> nicolai_ in the sense of software,  in the sense of networking   upstream is what's between you and the world
[11:51] <ubuntu_linux> but under Kubuntu?
[11:51] <nicolai_> intelikey: I figured it was software in this case
[11:52] <Daisuke_Ido> but what under kubuntu?
[11:52] <Dragnslcr> Don't suppose anyone here has worked with kvm? When I try to start a virtual machine, it hangs at "Loading..." and uses 100% of one of my CPU cores
[11:52] <Assid> hrmm
[11:52] <Assid> anyone ever managed to get dreamweaver 8 working ?
[11:52] <blekos> hi, had anybody luck with synce
[11:52] <blekos> ?
[11:52] <jhutchins> Dragnslcr: For how long?
[11:52] <Daisuke_Ido> Assid: you will have more luck using vi
[11:53] <Assid> nah.. i need the gui
[11:53] <Daisuke_Ido> then you might like nvu
[11:53] <jhutchins> Assid: Or quanta.
[11:53] <Dragnslcr> jhutchins- until I click the X to close the window. I've left it running for at least a few minutes a couple times
[11:53] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, i haven't checked out quanta yet
[11:54] <jhutchins> Dragnslcr: I would make sure there was no disk activity for at least 2-3 minutes.
[11:54] <intelikey> nicolai_ in this context yes   but i mentioned it for hasan' sake, with whom i think i spoke some hours ago about an upstream issue in the networking sense.    so i said what i said
[11:54] <nicolai_> Assid: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3482
[11:54] <nicolai_> intelikey: fair enough :)
[11:55] <kateak> hola?
[11:55] <Assid> yeay!!
[11:55] <Assid> i can now consider moving my ass over
[11:55] <Dragnslcr> jhutchins- know offhand if KSysGuard has a monitor for disk access?
[11:56] <jhutchins> Dragnslcr: Seems like it did last I looked.  I know gkrellm does.
[11:56] <JohnFlux> Dragnslcr: i think so
[11:56] <Assid> im trying to convince myself to bite the bullet and move over from win
[11:56] <kateak> hay alguien que hable castellano?
[11:56] <Dragnslcr> It has Disk Throughput, but I have no idea which of the 20 items under that would be what I'm looking for
[11:57] <nicolai_> Assid: I would test Wine for myself first to avoid backlash. But glad to see it might solve your issues.
[11:57] <Assid> dont have a linux box running atm
[11:57] <Assid> not as a desktop atleast
[11:58] <nicolai_> Assid: I started my journey with a dual-boot..
[11:59] <intelikey> is it possable to switch tty's inside of ssh ?
[11:59] <Assid> nicolai_: ive used it before.. i actually got servers running linux.. i had a dedicated "desktop" type box .. but never booted into it
[12:00] <Assid> im just tired of using the same damn thing.. so either i convince myself to move.. or stick to xp for the rest of my life or the next version of windows
[12:00] <Assid> that does make sense.
[12:00] <knowledge25k> hello  can somebody hell me with my beryl
[12:00] <Daisuke_Ido> i attempted a dual boot, and...  never booted into linux
[12:00] <Assid> Daisuke_Ido:  yeah.. exactly..
[12:01] <Assid> thats why i either just dive in.. or forget abt it
[12:01] <Daisuke_Ido> the way i finally switched was to tell myself: you're going to do this, it will be just fine, if a little different.
[12:01] <Daisuke_Ido> that was 9 months ago
[12:01] <nicolai_> Assid: Then i wont stand in the way of your migration :)
[12:01] <Daisuke_Ido> and i haven't had windows near this machine since :D
[12:01] <Assid> hehe
[12:01] <Assid> well
[12:01] <Assid> my lappy would still need windows
[12:01] <Daisuke_Ido> Assid: oh, mine does too
[12:01] <Daisuke_Ido> i have to for school
[12:02] <Assid> err.. how well does gimp handle photoshop files.. any clues ?
[12:02] <Assid> would be nice if i could manage to get my desktop to look like this guys tho : http://www.ubuntux.org/files/images/dsktop1.png
[12:02] <zombielion> when youmake a dvd what should the video rate be in kb/s and is there a way to compress the video if its to big to go on the dvd after it is converted
[12:02] <cje_> nicolai_, how embarrassing, it was a typo on the dapper repository!  See, we use tools that depend on other tools, and actually Feisty broke our tools, simply because Ubuntu moves faster than lots of other projects.  So we downgraded to Edgy, and everything worked.  But we actually had to reach back to dapper for transcode.
[12:02] <Assid> or this one : http://www.ubuntux.org/looking-dapper
[12:02] <Dragnslcr> jhutchins- so it's been over 5 minutes and it's still at "Loading..."
[12:03] <jhutchins> Dragnslcr: I think you can safely call that a hang though.
[12:03] <Assid> Daisuke_Ido: you ever done any video encoding on linux ?
[12:03] <jhutchins> Dragnslcr: I just wanted you to be sure, because there was a program I had that I thought was hanging, and it was just that it took two or three minutes to load and configure itself the first time.
[12:03] <Dragnslcr> jhutchins- yeah, that's what I figured. I posted something on the Ubuntu forum last night, but the thread has already been buried
[12:03] <zombielion> also what does interlacing and deinterlacing mean
[12:04] <jhutchins> zombielion: That's really not a kubuntu question.
[12:04] <nicolai_> cje_: But all works now?
[12:04] <jhutchins> zombielion: I think you need to do some reading on transcoding and DVD building.
[12:04] <Daisuke_Ido> Assid: a little
[12:05] <Assid> any difference in speed of encoding ? for a divx file?
[12:05] <cje_> nicolai_,  yeah, so far, i have been able to download all of the packages I need for our process, so thanks tons for sticking in there with me!!!
[12:05] <Daisuke_Ido> perhaps a little faster in linux
[12:05] <Assid> faster ?!
[12:05] <Daisuke_Ido> but no appreciable difference, no
[12:06] <Assid> i thougth divxnetworks is tuning the codec now .. like 20-30% quicker than before
[12:06] <Daisuke_Ido> and both of those desktops are quite easy
[12:06] <Daisuke_Ido> Assid: i have no idea
[12:06] <intelikey> what ?    can anything actualy be faster in linux than in M$ ???    come on!
[12:06] <Daisuke_Ido> i just use mencoder :D
[12:06] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: you know what's faster on linux than windows?  games.
[12:06] <Daisuke_Ido> games in wine vs. games running in native windows :D
[12:07] <jhutchins> zombielion: http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page#Learn
[12:07] <Assid> Daisuke_Ido: games faster through wine ?
[12:07] <nicolai_> cje_: No problem. It's summer vacation, so I have no quarrels with being on irc to near midnight. ;)
[12:07] <Daisuke_Ido> (not all, mind you, but some are.  it's true!)
[12:07] <Assid> how the hell.. its emulated
[12:07] <Daisuke_Ido> NO
[12:07] <nicolai_> cje_: Glad to be of help
[12:07] <Daisuke_Ido> no it is not
[12:07] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido not the ones i've tried,
[12:07] <cje_> nicolai_, near midnight?  You must be in Europe, no?
[12:07] <Daisuke_Ido> not emulated at all
[12:07] <Assid> doesnt crossover have something for games..
[12:07] <cje_> It is 15:07 in the afternoon here in San Francisco, California.
[12:08] <nicolai_> cje_: Yep. Copenhagen, Denmark
[12:08] <Daisuke_Ido> wine is an implementation of the win32 API, not a windows emulator.  a very big difference where speed is concerned
[12:08] <cje_> Awesome!
[12:08] <intelikey> WINE is Wine Is Not an Emulator
[12:08] <jhutchins> Assid: That's just the thing, wine isn't an emulator, it's an api interface.
[12:08] <Assid> hrmm.. my bad
[12:08] <jhutchins> Assid: cedega
[12:08] <Daisuke_Ido> cedega's nice
[12:08] <Assid> yeah
[12:08] <Assid> so that plays games no issues ?
[12:08] <cje_> nicolai_,  We have a lot of footage of interviews with European leaders, like the Mayor of Munich.
[12:08] <Daisuke_Ido> i wouldn't say that
[12:08] <Daisuke_Ido> some games there are no issues and they run great
[12:09] <jhutchins> Assid: There are issues.  It plays some games, has more support than wine.
[12:09] <Daisuke_Ido> some games run extremely slow
[12:09] <Daisuke_Ido> and some won't work at all
[12:09] <intelikey> windows doesn't "play games, no issues"   heh
[12:09] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: tell that to minesweeper!
[12:09] <Assid> hahaha
[12:10] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido i said games
[12:10] <vzduch> o0
[12:10] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[12:10] <Daisuke_Ido> solitaire then
[12:10] <intelikey> :)
[12:10] <vzduch> I have a modified mIRC running in CrossOver.. (not in this channel though)
[12:10] <Daisuke_Ido> two more weeks
[12:10] <intelikey> this console plays solitare
[12:10] <Daisuke_Ido> vzduch: for scripting purposes, i assume?
[12:10] <nicolai_> cje_: when do you expect the documentary to be done?
[12:10] <Assid> i gotta figure this out
[12:11] <nicolai_> cje_: You've peaked my curiosity :P
[12:11] <Sayers> How do I get Karmba to save my widgets?
[12:11] <vzduch> Daisuke_Ido: in this case, the scriptkiddie is my father.. I have only started it for demonstration purposes
[12:11] <vzduch> ;)
[12:11] <cje_> nicolai_, it is a community-based project, and we need help and funding, so whenever we are able to get it done, it will be done.  All of the footage will be free on line.
[12:11] <Daisuke_Ido> i see
[12:11] <angasule> !restricted
[12:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:12] <Daisuke_Ido> vzduch: trying to convert dad?
[12:12] <vzduch> he had an old mIRC version running as the basis.. I updated that and sent him back
[12:12] <vzduch> Daisuke_Ido: no, I've given up on that ;)
[12:12] <angasule> !wmv8
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmv8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <cje_> nicolai_, you can see 51 hours of footage here http://archive.org/details/digitaltippingpoint
[12:12] <angasule> !wmv9
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wmv9 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm working on converting my mother
[12:12] <Assid> err.. whats a rating of gold in wine mean?
[12:12] <Daisuke_Ido> she copies more dvds than i do
[12:12] <Daisuke_Ido> Assid: nearly zero problems
[12:13] <Assid> nice
[12:13] <Daisuke_Ido> platinum is zero problems
[12:13] <cje_> nicolai_, Europe and South America are going to be very important for our film, because we think that the Microsoft monopoly will be broken first in those two continents.
[12:13] <Daisuke_Ido> silver requires a little tweaking
[12:13] <Daisuke_Ido> and so on
[12:13] <Assid> hrmm
[12:13] <Assid> just curious.. when you install.. you install it using wine right ? you dont need to install on a windows machine. and then copy stuff over?
[12:14] <vzduch> cje_: not as long as everybody & your neighbour are copying Windoze in South America ;)
[12:14] <nicolai_> cje_: I'll be sure to look at it. :)
[12:14] <nicolai_> cje_: What about Asia?
[12:14] <cje_> vzduch, true, illegal copying of Windoze is Microsoft's biggest ally.
[12:14] <vzduch> intelikey: you gotta be kidding.. in the US the laws are so that it's partly illegal to use free software..
[12:14] <jhutchins> slashdot just had an article on how Microsoft managed to get the majority share in China.
[12:14] <intelikey> vzduch you gota be kidding
[12:15] <Sayers> cje_: ?
[12:15] <vzduch> intelikey: at least that's what it looks like from Europe
[12:15] <cje_> nicolai_, no, Microsoft is strong in Asia for exactly the reason that jhutchins pointed out.


[01:41] <xubuntu56i> kkk
[11:19] <MJCD> Hey
[11:19] <volodya> hi, i have gotten myself a new ssd, and i've installed xubuntu on it, my old installation is on the other drive, and i wanted to move relevant bits from it, but i am unable to mount it. my guess is that it has to do with the label 'xubuntu-vg' that is applied to the drive somewhere, but i cannot figure out how to change that label (i don't want to "play around" fearing that i will lose something)
[11:19] <MJCD> wow that's a long message
[11:19] <MJCD> volodya, labels dont really mean anything, they're just metadata
[11:20] <MJCD> just check out /dev/
[11:20] <volodya> i doubt that in this case. seeing that /dev/mapper uses them to populate the drives
[11:20] <MJCD> it will be like sda[...]
[11:21] <volodya> MJCD, did you actually read what i wrote?
[11:21] <volodya> ok... perhaps i wasn't clear enough
[11:21] <Unit193> Sounds more likely that you used LVM and need to use kpartx to activate it.
[11:22] <volodya> Unit193, i don't think that would work, since it will try to activate it using the label 'xubuntu--vg-root'
[11:23] <volodya> and that label is already taken
[11:24] <Unit193> It named them differently, but last time I messed with kpartx to activate, it was on CentOS.
[11:24] <Unit193> (did /dev/mapper/vg=Volnamep[1-3])
[11:29] <volodya> ok, i'm going to play around
[11:30] <Unit193> (Don't you just want to lvrename?)
[11:31] <volodya> i cannot figure out, i may need dmsetup rename
[12:16] <MJCD> anyways I just came because I have a problem. I go to github, I download a repo as a zip and xubuntu displays it as a zip with a padlock on it
[12:16] <MJCD> and the archive manager fails to open or work with it
[12:16] <MJCD> works fine in fileroller
[12:18] <MJCD> I may file an issue for that
[12:19] <MJCD> since it should be able to open a basic zip lol
[12:19] <MJCD> a simpler question
[12:19] <MJCD> I just want to enable gui login for root
[12:20] <MJCD> and yes I know its a terrible idea
[12:20] <MJCD> etc etc
[12:36] <MJCD> ahh I just tried as Other.. from the login screen after doing sudo passwd
[12:36] <MJCD> it is not a happy camper
[12:37] <MJCD> oh, it appears to work past that error though...
[12:43] <MJCD> oh well, appears solved enough for now to just have a screen with nothing but root terminals haha
[12:44] <MJCD> but I hope some contributor saw this
[12:44] <MJCD> peace
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