[00:00] <orange_tomek> hi, i'm running 10.4 Beta2 right now and when I try and to a apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade to the final version of 10.4, it tells me "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[00:00] <subone> !ubuntu+1 | sender
[00:00] <CaptainTrek> subone: fail
[00:00] <MotherMGA> subone: did you just tell me to rtfm? or am I in the wrong place?
[00:00] <blendmaster1024> stop using ubuntu+1! it's out as of today!
[00:00] <_dreamy> DrMrHorse:  maybe 1st i have to disconnect the WI fi
[00:00] <subone> i guess so
[00:00] <elie-m> uLinux, I think it's safe to remove the 31. in teh software manager u should be able to see themboth checked if they are both installed, just mark the 31 for complete removal and u'll see it remove itself from grub
[00:00] <xangua> orange tht means you are using the final release
[00:00] <elie-m> uLinux, I did that 5 days ago, removed 3 old kernels that way
[00:00] <LinuxGuy2009> !final
[00:00] <subone> I was under the impression #ubuntu+1 was for ubuntu>10 discussion
[00:00] <_dreamy> DrMrHorse: it seems like a stupid question, i should be able to find an option for wired, but i cant
[00:01] <sje46> where is the volume in Lucid?  I can't find it anywhere
[00:01] <blue112> Hi here.
[00:01] <Twiple> am I screwed?
[00:01] <ama1> hello
[00:01] <sender> I'm talking about 10.04 Lucid Lynx, after reboot I can't use my laptop keyboard, or an attached keyboard. Any help?
[00:01] <subone> MotherMGA,  I was under the impression #ubuntu+1 was for ubuntu>10 discussion
[00:01] <elie-m> sje46, this should help http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[00:01] <Spice`> subone, I thought that was just for prior to its release?
[00:02] <elie-m> sje46, sryu Igot ur question the wrong way
[00:02] <MotherMGA> subone: they released today. #ubuntu+1 is now locked down.
[00:02] <elie-m> my bad
[00:02] <brian_irish> Anyone have issues with RAID setups yet using 10.04?
[00:02] <pavs> hey guys, just installed 10.04, fresh install. very slow. not sure whats wrong
[00:02] <melkor> does apt-get not unlock if you need to reboot?
[00:02] <ChogyDan> brian_irish: Ive heard of people loosing data
[00:02] <subone> I was not aware of its release, sorry
[00:02] <sje46> hmm, elie-m ?
[00:02] <xangua> pavs: maybe your graphics card¿
[00:02] <LinuxGuy2009> !slow
[00:03] <sweetpi> Is there no torrent for 10.04 netbook remix?
[00:03] <elie-m> sje46, nevermind me, I made a mistake :)
[00:03] <pavs> xangua: how would I know and how can I fix it?
[00:03] <brian_irish> ChogyDan: Really? That's a new bug as of 10.04?
[00:03] <Kebap23> just installed version 10 and my mouse cursor always goes to the center of a new window, where can i turn it off?
[00:03] <Nonpython> Is there a guide to compiling the kernel.org kernel in ubuntu?
[00:03] <ChogyDan> brian_irish: no, it was an old bug persisting through 10.04
[00:03] <melkor> sender, when did you install 10.04 is this the release?
[00:03] <Spice`> Hooray, the Lucid update just closed my Firefox without warning!
[00:04] <brian_irish> ChogyDan: gotcha. Thanks
[00:04] <chun_> Can anyone help? I'm dual booting Lucid and Win7, and Ubuntu won't boot -- after selecting it in grub I get a tiny bit of disk activity then just a blank screen. I've tried reinstalling grub using a live disc. Win7 boots fine. This has just started happening, it's worked fine up until now. Any suggestions?
[00:04] <LinuxGuy2009> !kernel
[00:04] <elie-m> I backed up my data on the windows partition.. I will go off to update now the download is finished wish my luck :P
[00:04] <uLinux> back
[00:04] <sender> melkor: thanx for the reply :) Installed today, right after the release.
[00:04] <elie-m> me*
[00:04] <uLinux> it worked fine
[00:04] <melkor> chun_: what kernel are you using, are you using any of the ppa repo's?
[00:04] <elie-m> uLinu, good to know ;) I 'll go off and update my system to 10.04 wish me luck
[00:05] <melkor> sender it sounds like an xorg type problem, can you access the computer via ssh or anything?
[00:05] <Twiple> !help
[00:05] <blendmaster1024> i'm getting a lot of "INFO: using unknown version '/usr/bin/python3.0' (debian_defaults not up-to-date?)" when i use APT atm, how do i fix debian_defaults so it doesn't use python 3? other than removing py3
[00:05] <strange> how do i not autostart gnome, it used to be "update-rc.d -f gdm remove" that doesnt work anymore
[00:05] <ricardinho> hi, can someone help me? I'm having trouble connecting to a vpn server with ubuntu lucid 64
[00:05] <uLinux> Is there a way to edit Indicator Applet Session?
[00:05] <eightyeight> hmmm
[00:05] <andril> hello all
[00:05] <mateobur> how can I change the buttons in the windows to the right ???
[00:05] <strange> or how do i temporarily stop gnome i just need to disable it so i can install nvidia drivers
[00:05] <zerocool> ubuntu still freezes, please help me
[00:05] <Pici> !controls | mateobur
[00:05] <strange> !controles | mateobur
[00:05] <sender> melkor: it's a vmware image.. can I boot into console mode?
[00:06] <bencc> I've upgraded to lucid. my laptop shows the load screen and then I'm getting a black screen
[00:06] <bencc> what can I do?
[00:06] <Nonpython> LinuxGuy2009: I need the better btrfs support in .33.3
[00:06] <melkor> sender: sorry I missed that part.  I don't really know.
[00:06] <imagine7xy>  To force uninstallation of the driver by guessing where the
[00:06] <imagine7xy>  uninstallation files are located, set the FORCE_ATI_UNINSTALL
[00:06] <imagine7xy>  environment variable and re-run fglrx-uninstall.sh (this is not recommended).
[00:06] <td123> does anyone know if ubuntu uses go-openoffice or the regular openoffice.org?
[00:06] <imagine7xy> Can Anyone help???
[00:06] <melkor> bencc: what graphics card?
[00:06] <Pici> td123: regular openoffice.org
[00:06] <chun_> melkor: sorry, not sure on the kernel specifically, but if it helps it's the lucid version which was released today. only added the google-chrome ppa
[00:06] <sender> melkor: is there a way during the bootprocess to go into console or safe mode or sth like that?
[00:07] <zerocool> some one help, this is urgent
[00:07] <td123> Pici: do you know why?
[00:07] <xangua> td123: ubuntu uses go.OO by default
[00:07] <bencc> melkor: I don't know. how can I check?
[00:07] <LinuxGuy2009> !urgent
[00:07] <melkor> sender: yes, I get the options from grup.
[00:07] <alket> frankie_ did you managed to install flash x64 because i did ?
[00:07] <imagine7xy>  Can anyone help with this: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To force uninstallation of the driver by guessing where the
[00:07] <imagine7xy>  uninstallation files are located, set the FORCE_ATI_UNINSTALL
[00:07] <imagine7xy>  environment variable and re-run fglrx-uninstall.sh (this is not recommended).
[00:07] <ChogyDan> chun_: the kernel ppa has up through .34
[00:07] <xangua> Pici: the web of go-OO says it is uses by default, it is not¿¿
[00:07] <Nonpython> !urgent
[00:07] <melkor> bencc: lspci then look for something that sounds like a graphics card.
[00:07] <frankie_> alket : not yet still stumped :/
[00:07] <td123> xangua: thanks
[00:08] <uLinux> Is there a way to edit Indicator Applet Session? I would like to remove status menu...
[00:08] <mateobur> Im using 10.04 on a macbook, everything works fine except the touchpad, any hints on this ??
[00:08] <bencc> melkor: how can I use 'lspci' I'm getting a black screen
[00:08] <sender> melkor: Ok, during boot I've said to continue installing without grub :/
[00:08] <{g}> Hey People! I sometimes have to reboot my notebook to regain wireless access. Any ideas why? tail /var/log/syslog says "could not trigger wireless scan device or resource busy"
[00:08] <Juzzy> where do we report bugs to?
[00:08] <jonrohan> checkout my site, give me feedback http://thislittlemarket.com/
[00:08] <pure_hate> imagine7xy, export FORCE_ATI_UNINSTALL=1
[00:08] <melkor> bencc: are you using grub.
[00:08] <josemoreira> brightess not working correctly on EEPC
[00:08] <ChogyDan> {g}: have you tried just disabling wireless for a minute?
[00:08] <Juzzy> nm
[00:08] <bencc> melkor: I have only ubuntu installed
[00:09] <sender> melkor: I guess the VMware tools are not installed
[00:09] <melkor> bencc: I use grub, for just ubuntu
[00:09] <zerocool> melkor, i need help withj a graphics
[00:09] <{g}> ChogyDan: yes. via the killswitch button. then when i re-enable it, the line i gave is the last line in syslog.
[00:09] <bencc> melkor: I choose 'Esc' and go for recovery mode
[00:09] <alket> frankie_ i will tell in you in private
[00:09] <bencc> melkor: I just installed the default CD.
[00:09] <Spice`> Is Lucid gonna close my terminal while updating?
[00:09] <factolove> Hi. i have a 3G evdo/cdma modem... cant seem to get dictated
[00:09] <melkor> bencc: sounds good does that give you the option of booting to the cmd line?
[00:09] <g0tcha> hey guys, anyone know how i can format usb flash drive in ubuntu?
[00:10] <melkor> Spice`: it shouldn't.
[00:10] <ChogyDan> {g}: I would try through network manager.  But anyway, if this is consistent for you, file a bug
[00:10] <bencc> melkor: use now I'm root in the cmd line
[00:10] <melkor> bencc: how about lspci ?
[00:10] <{g}> ChogyDan: its ubuntu 8.04
[00:10] <miked595_> Sup channel
[00:10] <alrekur> {g} had the same problem used modprobe -r to remove the driver then reload it with modprobe
[00:11] <bencc> melkor: I see only the last results
[00:11] <melkor> lspci | more
[00:11] <factolove> Hey guys. i have a 3G evdo/cdma modem... cant seem to get dictated
[00:11] <zerocool> can some one help me Ubuntu is freezes up on me! it lockedup I think it is GPU related
[00:11] <bencc> melkor: maybe: Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) ?
[00:11] <melkor> bencc: thats it.
[00:11] <DrMrHorse> _dreamy: did you solve your problem?
[00:12] <vistakiller> is there any link to have all the iso for download?
[00:12] <factolove> how do i get drivers in
[00:12] <bencc> melkor: what do I do now?
[00:12] <{g}> alrekur: "modprobe -r" what?
[00:12] <melkor> bencc: the next step is to dmesg and see if you have anything that looks like an error.
[00:12] <imagine7xy> CANT ANYONE PLEASE tell me how to remove /usr/share/ati/ -- a program called ATI Catalyst Control Center, that is partially installed??
[00:12] <miked595_> Zerocool have u checked the memory?
[00:12] <melkor> (probably dmesg | more)
[00:12] <ama1> hello  all pls keep up tweeting about ubuntu :D
[00:12] <melkor> imagine7xy: sudo apt-get install -f
[00:13] <alrekur> {g} the name of the wireless card driver
[00:13] <bencc> melkor: it's very very long. do I need to read all and look for errors?
[00:13] <imagine7xy> melkor: Doesn't work
[00:13] <ChogyDan> imagine7xy: are you trying to do so because the installer complained?
[00:13] <miked595_> Zerocool usually it's ram when my hardware freezes
[00:13] <commander_> i'm loving 10.4 and the music store
[00:13] <{g}> a.
[00:13] <melkor> bencc: just something pertinent, it can be a pain.
[00:13] <LinuxGuy2009> Whoever asked a while ago for a torrent of netbook edition. http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ubuntu-10.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent
[00:13] <commander_> is it like itunes or better?
[00:13] <{g}> alrekur: where do i get it from?
[00:13] <alrekur> {g} for me it is rt61pci
[00:13] <Twiple> I like 10.4 and the music store which wasn't there before.
[00:13] <imagine7xy> ChogyDan: Yes, I am trying to reinstall stuff, but it wont let me install, until ive uninstalled, and the INSTALLER does not work
[00:13] <melkor> bencc: also when you boot into the cmd line there might have been a 'failsafe' mode for the graphics.
[00:13] <bencc> melkor: there was
[00:13] <ChogyDan> imagine7xy: please pastebin the whole error
[00:13] <imagine7xy> ChogyDan: its complicated, this is why I've been working on this for 6 hours!!
[00:14] <bencc> melkor: can I fix it in safe mode?
[00:14] <melkor> bencc: One thing you can do is now that you know the graphics card you can google that.  If its an intel card and it won't let you into gnome.    I have done this many times before, is there a known problem on 10.04?
[00:15] <ChogyDan> imagine7xy: so this is from the ati website
[00:15] <Twiple> LinuxGuy2009: It's a swap partition the size of my RAM and a normal boot partition, right? Isn't that how you do it or will that somehow kill windows?
[00:15] <pavs> is there a well knows ug for ATI video cards that makes Ubuntu slow?
[00:15] <melkor> imagine7xy: where does that error come from
[00:15] <imagine7xy> ChogyDan: Bingo!
[00:15] <melkor> pavs: are you using the proprietary driver?
[00:16] <darkkilla> so, can anyone help me with my bash "/etc/bash_completion.d/cowsay" syntax error issue?
[00:16] <LinuxGuy2009> Twiple: Well like I said before Im a bad person to ask. I dont use Windows anymore.
[00:16] <pavs> melkor: I am strying ti install it know, so slow its beel downloading an installing for the last 10 minutes
[00:16] <Twiple> ok...
[00:16] <Spice`> Seven minutes left!
[00:16] <canolucas> can somebody confirm that empathy is unable to connect to the MSN network? (using telephaty-butterfly). i couldn't connect today
[00:16] <ideame> Hi
[00:16] <LinuxGuy2009> Sorry
[00:16] <ideame> i want to convert rpm to spec file.. is there any documentation for that
[00:16] <Twiple> I guess I'll wait for jordan to get back...
[00:16] <ha1331> Just upgraded to 10.04. No more smplayer, what am I supposed to use instead?
[00:16] <Twiple> thanks anyway
[00:16] <LinuxGuy2009> !wubi | Twiple
[00:16] <melkor> pavs: the open source drivers are nice, they don't do multiple desktops though.
[00:16] <bencc> melkor: thanks
[00:16] <ChogyDan> imagine7xy: so I guess your system is somewhat borked.  I don't really know, but you might as well just set the variable and force the uninstall, right?
[00:16] <darkkilla> hal1331: Funny, I've got smplayer but no more mplayer :(
[00:17] <Twiple> I tried WUBI, it has a tendency to break on me, though
[00:17] <pure_hate> imagine7xy, I already told you how to set the variable
[00:17] <imagine7xy> melkor: sudo sh fglrx-uninstall.sh
[00:17] <darkkilla> even though mplayer IS installed but it doesn't show up
[00:17] <LinuxGuy2009> Ah
[00:17] <melkor> bencc did you get it going?
[00:17] <patrickd> When using grub2 which file do you need to edit to pass parameters to the kernel
[00:17] <ha1331> darkkilla: I have mplayer, but I'm not going to use it without smplayer
[00:17] <imagine7xy> pure_hate: What???
[00:17] <Kebap23> just installed version 10 and my mouse cursor always goes to the center of a new window, where can i turn it off?
[00:17] <darkkilla> this happened right after updating from 9.10 to 10.04
[00:18] <imagine7xy> pure_hate: When??
[00:18] <LinuxGuy2009> !partitions | Twiple
[00:18] <alrekur> {g} what wirless card are you using you could look up what driver is used in ubuntu for your card or just type lsmod to list all loaded modules and figure out which one is wireless
[00:18] <imagine7xy> (07:08:37 PM) pure_hate: imagine7xy, export FORCE_ATI_UNINSTALL=1
[00:18] <{g}> alrekur: maybe its iwl3945
[00:18] <imagine7xy> pure_hate: DOESNT WORK
[00:18] <imagine7xy> pure_hate: TRIED IT
[00:18] <darkkilla> ^^ well, and I don't want to use smplayer for all media files... I only use it for DVD playback, everything else I play back with mplayer because I'm used to using these handy keyboard shortcuts
[00:18] <imagine7xy> pure_hate: still says same thing!
[00:18] <ennui> hey guys. I am using chromium on ubuntu 10.04 and I had streaming video working fine in the browser till I installed mplayer no they don't load. I have removed mplayer and tried reinstalling chromium as well as ffmpeg and buid-dep for both of them but still no video
[00:19] <imagine7xy> pure_hate: never uninstalls
[00:19] <bencc> melkor: not yet. maybe this is related https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/554835
[00:19] <pure_hate> imagine7xy, do you have X running?
[00:19] <imagine7xy> pure_hate: How do I know?
[00:19] <ChogyDan> imagine7xy: maybe try doing sudo export?  just a guess
[00:19] <Spice`> imagine7xy: Type ps -A | grep X
[00:20] <imagine7xy> ChogyDan: then it says export unrecognized command
[00:20] <pure_hate> imagine7xy, Are you looking at a desktop or a tty
[00:20] <imagine7xy> DESKTOP
[00:20] <pure_hate> imagine7xy, well thats half you problem
[00:20] <ChogyDan> imagine7xy: or maybe try running sudo -i
[00:20] <imagine7xy> No command 'Type' found, did you mean:
[00:20] <imagine7xy>  Command 'pype' from package 'pype' (universe)
[00:20] <imagine7xy> Type: command not found
[00:20] <alrekur> {g} that is a driver for some intel cards i think good luck
[00:20] <Alexandra> Hi there, how can I update a server version from karmic to lynx without touching the source.list
[00:20] <pure_hate> echo $ FORCE_ATI_UNINSTALL
[00:20] <pure_hate> does that return a 1?
[00:20] <evilbug> wow, the new ubuntu looks ace.
[00:20] <imagine7xy>   897 tty7     00:03:02 Xorg
[00:20] <imagine7xy> i mean
[00:21] <Spice`> Alexandra, just run the Update Manager, and it should say at the top the 10.04 is out, and have a button to update.
[00:21] <Soul_Sample> why does this keep happening, one ubuntu after other - when I run any game or application which uses sound, I lose sound in the whole system and have to pkill pulseaudio and then restart all applications to get the sound back
[00:21] <imagine7xy> $ FORCE_ATI_UNINSTALL
[00:21] <tew88> Hi fellas. I've no sound in Flash. Kubuntu 10.04 (64bit), installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and have no sound either in  Chrome or FireFox.
[00:21] <imagine7xy> it returns
[00:21] <pure_hate> imagine7xy, you cant unistall a driver if your desktop is still using it
[00:21] <pure_hate> echo $FORCE_ATI_UNINSTALL
[00:21] <pure_hate> sorry no space
[00:21] <imagine7xy> true
[00:21] <brad_> hello
[00:21] <imagine7xy> it returns true
[00:21] <darkkilla> I guess something went wrong during update... might be, because Xorg crashed 5 minutes before all packages could be installed... nonetheless the install still kept working while my desktop totally crashed ... luckily I could connect to my machine via ssh using my android phone + connectbot so I could see "Reboot required" and reboot it from console... but I don't know if it might cause trouble anyways
[00:22] <melkor> imagine7xy: What happens when you try to use apt to uninstall the fglrx drivers?
[00:22] <imagine7xy> i set it as that
[00:22] <imagine7xy> I also set it as 1
[00:22] <Alexandra> Hi Spice` : There is no gui on the server version, so no update manager
[00:22] <{g}> alrekur: well, i tried modprobe -r and modprobe. and then reconnected to the network with the network applet.. and damn, it worked!
[00:22] <imagine7xy> melkor:
[00:22] <imagine7xy> melkor:  how??
[00:22] <melkor> imagine7xy: sudo apt-get install -f
[00:22] <pure_hate> imagine7xy, you are going to have to stop X and drop to a tty framebuffer session to uninstall a graphics driver
[00:22] <{g}> alrekur: oh no, and then it immediately disconnected again :(
[00:22] <Alexandra> Spice`: This is why I'm asking. So far I always edited sources.list
[00:22] <Xgates> what is the alternate iso for?
[00:22] <melkor> imagine7xy: apt-get uninstall fglrx
[00:22] <Zorix> useless
[00:22] <imagine7xy> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[00:22] <imagine7xy> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[00:23] <Spice`> Alexandra: Sorry then, wouldn't know. Perhaps apt-get upgrade?
[00:23] <mewt> imagine7xy, are you root ?
[00:23] <melkor> imagine7xy: close your synaptics pckg manager.
[00:23] <RaJiL> any know, how to install freenx in lucyd?
[00:23] <Loshki> tew88: I had sound problems with 10.04. This worked for me: http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/525-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu910-karmic-koala
[00:23] <ha1331> Just upgraded to 10.04. No more smplayer, what am I supposed to use instead?
[00:23] <darkkilla> melkor: addition: and the update manager if it is open
[00:23] <rawr_> this might be a stupid question, but i'm lacking an extra cd to burn to and i don't have a flash drive, however i do have a hard drive i can make a partition on.  so my question is, should i be able to extract the Ubuntu iso onto the partition and install it that way?
[00:23] <imagine7xy> damnit im going insane
[00:23] <imagine7xy> this is so ridiculous
[00:24] <tew88> Loshki: ty
[00:24] <imagine7xy> brb 15 min
[00:24] <Issue313> rawr: short answer, yes, I've done that myself before
[00:24] <ddrj> if i reformat my pc and reinstall ubuntu on there, will everything in / disappear? i was hoping everything from /swap/ and /home/ would go but what about / ?
[00:24] <alrekur> {g} don't know what else you could try maybe there is an alternate driver for your card that might work better
[00:24] <Issue313> I can't remember specifics though
[00:24] <sixtila> anyone tried upgrading from Karmic to Lucid? was it smooth ??
[00:24] <melkor> imagine7xy: there is a wiki in the title of #radeon that tells how to uninstall the ati drivers,  There is also #ati, which will have less people.
[00:25] <Xgates> anyone know what the alternate isos are for?
[00:25] <sam204475> *** Problem   Im using 10.04 CR and trying to install 10.04 ~  but 10.04CR wont allow me to put any of my files onto my 8GB flash drive .  there is plenty of space but it says there isnt any.  i tried 2 different USB flash drives.. both the same.  Any ideas????
[00:25] <LinuxGuy2009> !install | rawr_
[00:25] <{g}> alrekur: i did it again, and now the connection seems to stay.
[00:25] <melkor> Xgates: the installer is lighter and you can configure different things.
[00:25] <Xgates> melkor: ahh ok thanks
[00:25] <bencc> melkor: they say the .34 kernel should fix it. when running in a previous kernel in the menu it works
[00:25] <sam204475> *** Problem   Im using 10.04 CR and trying to install 10.04 ~  but 10.04CR wont allow me to put any of my files onto my 8GB flash drive .  there is plenty of space but it says there isnt any.  i tried 2 different USB flash drives.. both the same.  Any ideas????
[00:25] <melkor> bencc: did you get the .34 kernel?
[00:26] <bencc> melkor:  I don't know how
[00:26] <ddrj> LinuxGuy2009: when doing a fresh install over another nix OS, will it delete /home/ , /swap/ and / or just home and swap ?
[00:26] <bencc> melkor:  shouldn't I wait for synaptic to update it?
[00:26] <melkor> bencc: okay who says the .34 kernel should fix it, I will recommend the .33 kernel.
[00:26] <johnjohn101> sam204475 did you format the drive?
[00:26] <andrew____> Each time I do try and update package info/packages, I get a NO-DATA error
[00:26] <karan> hi
[00:26] <sam204475> johnjohn101  nope
[00:26] <andrew____> I'm behind a proxy, but any ideas?
[00:26] <darkkilla> <- also brb in 13 minutes... would be cool if someone could help me with either my "mplayer doesn't show up in open with dialog anymore" or "bash gives error messages that in /etc/bash_completion.d/cowsay in line 12 is a syntax error" issues, thank you
[00:26] <melkor> bencc: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[00:27] <karan> im using lucid lynx beta how do i upgrade form beta to solid release
[00:27] <karan> without
[00:27] <johnjohn101> sam204475:  try that first
[00:27] <karan> a dvd
[00:27] <LinuxGuy2009> ddrj: If you use the default partitioning then the drive will get wiped. Otherwise you have to manually specify the partition layout.
[00:27] <sam204475> johnjohn101 How?
[00:27] <sam204475> HEHE
[00:27] <melkor> bencc: You will need to download 3 files for the kernel version you want to install.
[00:27] <ChogyDan> ddrj: it may not delete /home unless you reformat
[00:27] <trism> karan: just update normally and you'll be there
[00:27] <karan> cause when i use update-manager --devel-release
[00:27] <johnjohn101> sam204475: are you following any directions?
[00:27] <darkkilla> karan: tried using the update manager?
[00:27] <virtuald> how do i remove the upper gnome-panel?
[00:27] <sam204475> nope
[00:27] <melkor> bencc: but who says the .34 kernel will fix it?  site or blog?
[00:27] <karan> well...
[00:27] <bencc> melkor: wouldn't I break upgrade path?
[00:27] <Spice`> Alright, let's pray a restart doesn't make my machine explode.
[00:27] <karan> my system is updated
[00:27] <karan> idk
[00:27] <karan> how do i check if im not beta
[00:27] <karan> anymore
[00:27] <johnjohn101> sam204475: you're trying to put the .iso on the flash drive to install?
[00:27] <sebsebseb> virtuald: right click and delete panel
[00:28] <melkor> bencc: no, they kernel branches can be install w/out altering your update repo's
[00:28] <bencc> melkor: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/554835
[00:28] <sebsebseb> virtuald: rigyht click on it, and delete panel
[00:28] <Loshki> ddrj: it depends on which partition you have those directories. In general, you can only delete (or preserve) entire partitions during an install...
[00:28] <LinuxGuy2009> ddrj: Just like when you have a seperate home partition. During the partition phase you go to manually specify what partitions are for what use, otherwise you will wipe the whole drive and lose everything.
[00:28] <sam204475> JohnJohn101 yeah  im using ~~ unetbooin ~
[00:28] <bencc> melkor: some comments mention the .34 kernel
[00:28] <sam204475> but now i cant put any files on there.  nothing at all  i know it has like 7.5G free but nothing will go on .
[00:28] <imagine7xy> melkor: What is the link to the wiki?
[00:28] <Twiple> I'm terrified here
[00:28] <LinuxGuy2009> I agree with Loshki
[00:29] <bencc> melkor: the .31-20 works fine but .31-21 doesn't
[00:29] <LinuxGuy2009> Twiple: Scared of what?
[00:29] <Loshki> Twiple: terrified why?
[00:29] <mickster04> andrew____: can u access the internet fine behind the proxy?
[00:29] <andrew____> mickster04: Yes
[00:29] <ddrj> Loshki & LinuxGuy2009: well guys, i wanted to preserve my / dir (800gigs of content) and wanted to wipe out my home
[00:29] <ddrj> would that be possible?
[00:29] <karan> ok
[00:29] <karan> how do i check
[00:29] <karan> which
[00:29] <andrew____> mickster04: It looks like it's not wanting to use the proxy for package stuff by default
[00:29] <Loshki> ddrj: I'd like you to pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' before we go further....
[00:29] <sam204475> When i look at windows doing these things i just see a poor camel with two fat mexicans on the back in the middle of the sahara. ~ bless.  windows dont really have much of a chance does it.
[00:30] <melkor> bencc: then don't use .31-21, you'll probably see an update come out for it soon.
[00:30] <karan> like
[00:30] <karan> idk
[00:30] <LinuxGuy2009> ddrj: Why backup / most users files go to /home
[00:30] <mickster04> andrew____: has yuo set system wide too?
[00:30] <karan> when i update i have a bunch of new backgrounds
[00:30] <mamous> The VPN connection 'Test10 VPN' could not be exported to Test10 VPN (pptp).conf.
[00:30] <mamous> Error: unknown error.
[00:30] <karan> and have a radiance theme
[00:30] <bencc> melkor: cool. thanks
[00:30] <karan> aswell
[00:30] <andrew____> mickster04: I has, but I'll try explicit not auto
[00:30] <johnjohn101> sam204475:  are you using windows?
[00:30] <ddrj> Loshki: i'll pm u when i get home, because currently at work so i can't ssh :(
[00:30] <superbob> I would like to hook up a monitor to a GeForce 250 GTS via an HDMI -> VGA cable.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[00:30] <sam204475> johnjohn  ubuntu 10.04CR
[00:30] <mickster04> andrew____: thats the other option:D
[00:30] <melkor> bencc: since I use grub I can install a kernel and select the one I want at bootup if you are in the same position, then you could try the 2.6.33 kernel
[00:30] <Loshki> ddrj: ok...
[00:30] <GrizzLyCRO> hello
[00:31] <andrew____> mickster04: Nope <_< Same
[00:31] <melkor> superbob: what goes wrong? I just plug in the hdmi cable and it works.
[00:31] <LinuxGuy2009> superbob: Just get the correct cable and/or adapters.
[00:31] <Loshki> sam204475: as a fat mexican, I don't appreciate the symbology...
[00:31] <GrizzLyCRO> which nvidia driver is shipped via hardware drivers?
[00:31] <JimBarwoo> Does anyone know the name of the ebook reader that came with Netbook Remix 9.10? It's missing from 10.04 and I want to get it
[00:31] <ddrj> LinuxGuy2009: yeah i think when i first installed, i messed up on the partitioning... i did 800 gigs to / , 60 gigs to /home/ and 2 gigs to /swap/
[00:31] <mickster04> andrew____: have you tried turning it off and on again:D
[00:31] <GrizzLyCRO> if it is not lates, you should update it to latest
[00:31] <sam204475> loshiki ~ heheh im sure you dont hence your using linux.
[00:31] <andrew____> mickster04: What, really? :s
[00:31] <GrizzLyCRO> with default nvidia driver i had some extremely weird focus problems
[00:31] <bencc> melkor: I only want to use ubuntu :) I don't want to start messing with kernels
[00:31] <Twiple> Did Jordan say he was coming back soon?
[00:31] <mickster04> andrew____: not watched the IT crowd
[00:31] <mickster04> ?
[00:32] <johnjohn101> sam204475: are you using ubootin on windows for the rc .iso?
[00:32] <superbob> melkor, LinuxGuy2009 ...    I have an HDMI -> VGA cable (from Card to monitor).... just plugging it in does nothing
[00:32] <andrew____> mickster04: You could be used to Windows? :/
[00:32] <Alcor> why has ubuntu+1 gone invite only?
[00:32] <sam204475> flash drive....?
[00:32] <brokz> would anyone recommend me running VMWare / Parallels on Ubuntu running Visual Studio in Wine / Codega? or is there a better solution with the Mono-Project?
[00:32] <melkor> superbob: system>preferences>monitors.
[00:32] <sam204475> what? johnjohn?
[00:32] <LinuxGuy2009> ddrj: I personally have 2 SATA 500GB drives. drive 2 is all /home. Otherwise with a single drive I would set aside the majority of the space for /home.
[00:32] <mickster04> andrew____: or try forcing and unexpected reboot, no im fine with linux/cnu:D but you never know
[00:32] <karan> SOMEONE HELP
[00:32] <pmp6nl> anyone know a good program i could use to remotely erase my computer if it gets stolen?
[00:32] <sam204475> no im using it in ubuntu to upgrade to 10.04
[00:32] <GrizzLyCRO> like mouse has focus on one window, keyboard on another, then suddenly none has focus, i have to alt+F4 everything, if i want to change focus, i have to right click on currently active window, then select other, but that doesnt work always
[00:32] <deufrai> Alcor: maybe because 10.4 has just been released ?
[00:33] <johnjohn101> sam204475:  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive-the-easy-way/
[00:33] <LinuxGuy2009> ddrj: Keep in mind you can resize and move partitions but an fstab edit or two will be required for your partitions to be found.
[00:33] <superbob> melkor, i don't have a "monitors"  ... i have a "display"
[00:33] <LinuxGuy2009> !UUID
[00:33] <GrizzLyCRO> i updated to last driver from nvidia site and it works fine
[00:33] <polleri> I heard that the ipod touch is compatible iwth Lucid but it's not working on mine, is there anything I need to do to make it work?
[00:33] <bastid_raZor> karan: you're trying to get from the RC to the final?
[00:33] <andrew____> mickster04: Ok sure, I'll reboot.
[00:33] <ddrj> LinuxGuy2009: ahhhhhhhhhh, ty ty, i'll check up on the fstab edits then
[00:33] <melkor> superbob: I don't have a display...?
[00:33] <sam204475> << im not using windows.  im using ubuntu ~
[00:33] <superbob> melkor, ... and when trying to use it I get the "RANDR extension is not present"
[00:33] <Spice`> What the butt!
[00:33] <LinuxGuy2009> display? monitor? whats the differecne now adays?
[00:33] <melkor> superbob: odd maybe you could try installing xrandr?  It sounds like a bug.
[00:34] <superbob> melkor, yeah, I have a System > Preferences > Display
[00:34] <Spice`> The close button is on the left now! :(
[00:34] <Loshki> pmp6nl: the conventional solution to that issue is to encrypt any valuable data so no-one can read it if it gets stolen...
[00:34] <johnjohn101> sam204475: let me check to see what to do for linux. i've never done it from that
[00:34] <sam204475> and theunetbootin isnt the problem,  its the Flash Drive thats the problem. its telling me there is no space when i know there is about 7.5G on there.    how can i format a drive...
[00:34] <mickster04> Spice`: you can change that
[00:34] <superbob> melkor, i'm using nvidia drivers... does that make a difference with randr?
[00:34] <LinuxGuy2009> !controls | Spice`
[00:34] <Spice`> mickster04: Yeah, probably. Haven't looked around at config stuff yet. Just rebooted.
[00:34] <Butch128> I just downloaded 10.4 LTS server x64 alternate... and pretty sure I'm encountering bug #542210 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/partman-md/+bug/542210).  Does anyone know of a workaround?
[00:34] <sam204475> johnjohn101 ~ i dunno if it can be but i have the UNET bootin software in ubuntu.....
[00:34] <sam204475> it works fine
[00:34] <pmp6nl> Loshki I suppose that would work.  I could encrypt my home folder, but than I cant access it in windows... when I have to use it
 my system is up to date im using ubuntu beta and i wanna know how to get to final or if i am already using final
[00:35] <melkor> superbob: It should be handled by the nvidia, maybe  there is another option under preferences.  Also #nvidia handles the linux/proprietary nvidia stuff.
[00:35] <LinuxGuy2009> Spice: Simple gconf editor will fix you up if you want it back. I dint like it when i first tried it but now I prefer it actually.
[00:35] <Butch128> RAID1/RAID10 with free space is present, says it cannot create /boot
[00:35] <Soul_Sample> does anyone know how to fix sound issues with pulseaudio under lucid?
[00:35] <sam204475> karan.   u can just do and update or a fresh install...
[00:35] <johnjohn101> sam204475: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112367
[00:35] <tat-> superbob: the restricted nvidia driver doesnt support xrandr, you need to use the nvidia tool
[00:35] <superbob> ah.  i will try that channel.  thanks :)
[00:35] <sam204475> thanks johnjohn101.
[00:35] <andrew____> mickster04: Reboot no good :(
[00:35] <LinuxGuy2009> !fakeraid | Butch128
[00:35] <mickster04> pmp6nl: hpw do u access it from windows? not using ext4?
[00:35] <Fishscene> How do I cancel a software installation in Ubuntu Software Center? Usually there's an X I can click on to cancel, but there isn't one =\
[00:35] <melkor> karan: if you system is up to date then you are using the release.
[00:35] <Loshki> pmp6nl: Hmm. Tricky. Are there no encryption tools that run on both windows and linux. I'd have thought there was at least one...
[00:35] <Butch128> LiuxGuy2009: It's not fakeraid, i'm setting up software raid
[00:36] <pmp6nl> mickster04 i use ext4 and use an ext4 reader in ubuntu
[00:36] <vivid> will the nvidia-current package be updated to the current releases?
[00:36] <johnjohn101> sam204475:  good luck
  so not the final?
[00:36] <melkor> karan: what do you mean final?
[00:36] <Butch128> I just had this exact RAID/LVM setup under 9.10
[00:36] <sam204475> thanks johnjohn101~~~~  :D
[00:36] <karan> the one on ubuntu's wbesite
[00:36] <pmp6nl> Loshki: thanks for the info.  I think ill just try not to use windows at all. or maybe a sep partition
[00:36] <melkor> karan one and the same.
[00:36] <LinuxGuy2009> !Fishscene: close the software center maybe?
[00:36] <Butch128> Pretty sure this bug is still in the final release...
[00:36] <LinuxGuy2009> !final
[00:36] <zeenix> hi
[00:37] <Fishscene> LinuxGuy2009: I closed and re-opened it and it is still installing.
[00:37] <lucas-arg> how can i test plymouth?
[00:37] <LinuxGuy2009> Fishscene: Whats installing?
[00:37] <gbear14275> any reason my update manager is not registering the new version being out yet?
[00:37] <zeenix> while trying to upgrade to lucid, i ended-up having this situation:
[00:37] <zeenix> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libatk1.0-dev_1.30.0-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[00:37] <zeenix>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/gir-1.0/Atk-1.0.gir', which is also in package gobject-introspection-repository 0:0.6.5-0ubuntu1
[00:37] <Loshki> pmp6nl: this site mentions encryption tools that work on both: http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/59932
[00:37] <melkor> gbear14275: new versio of what?
[00:37] <pmp6nl> mickster04 take a look at http://www.soluvas.com/read-browse-explore-open-ext2-ext3-ext4-partition-filesystem-from-windows-7/
[00:37] <karan> ok
[00:37] <karan> ty
[00:37] <pmp6nl> loshki thanks
[00:37] <LinuxGuy2009> gbear14275: You running a beta or RC?
[00:38] <AnActivist> hello, how do I find the chipset of my wireless card? I have a print out from "lspci -vv" and I know the manufacturer and the model but I'm not sure how to find the chipset
[00:38] <gbear14275> rc
[00:38] <Fishscene> LinuxGuy2009: Wine (Beta)
[00:38] <Fishscene> There is no version number
[00:38] <gbear14275> LinuxGuy2009: rc (btw... hows the new project coming?)
[00:38] <bung_> whats the filesystem of / on ubuntu
[00:38] <bung_> ext3 right?
[00:38] <melkor> AnActivist: what chipset are you looking for?
[00:38] <johnjohn101> ext4
[00:38] <acicula> bung_, ext4
[00:38] <bung_> is it?
[00:38] <Butch128> And each of my sfotware RAID devices have "unsable" space, one of 983KB, another of 131KB
[00:38] <uRock_> bung_, ex4
[00:38] <bung_> for 9.04?
[00:38] <Oer> Linux CeleronD 2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 08:09:38 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:38] <LinuxGuy2009> gbear14275: If you have all updates installed then you are already running final.
[00:38] <AnActivist> I'm trying to figure out what chipset is in the Intel Wireless 5100AGN card
[00:39] <ohir> pmp6nl: truecrypt with ntfs partition will do the trick for you
[00:39] <bung_> for 9.04?
[00:39] <melkor> AnActivist: google
[00:39] <mickster04> pmp6nl: oh i aint got 7 yet:/
[00:39] <gbear14275> LinuxGuy2009: really?!  I have seen any updates in the last 2 days and don't see any of the music stuff
[00:39] <pmp6nl> ohir: truecrypt the whole directory?
[00:39] <bung_> acicula: for 9.04?
[00:39] <LinuxGuy2009> gbear14275: Project is going good just waiting for lubuntu final so i can make a Lucid ISO image for upload. Thanks for asking! https://launchpad.net/multibootu
[00:39] <uRock_> bung_, if you are clean installing, it doesn't matter for / because you are writing over ir.
[00:39] <ohir> pmp6nl: whole partition
[00:39] <AnActivist> melkor, I'm trying but I'm not sure what to look for
[00:39] <bung_> uRock_: running fsck
[00:39] <LinuxGuy2009> gbear14275: music store is in rhythmbox
[00:39] <AnActivist> I've typing "intel wireless 5100AGN "chipset""
[00:39] <pmp6nl> mickster04 shoudl work on other versions
[00:39] <AnActivist> but can't find it
[00:40] <sixtila> see you all in LUCID
[00:40] <LinuxGuy2009> gbear14275: check to see if the music store plugin is active maybe?
[00:40] <acicula> bung_, its not the default for 9.04 no
[00:40] <g0tcha> hey guys, im having problem installing new applications in my ubuntu, it told me to do apt-get update and apt-get install -f but it doesnt work, it gives me this error msgs http://pastebin.com/yebmgLpZ
[00:40] <melkor> AnActivist: what chipsets are you looking for, that often has to do with manufactures.
[00:40] <alrekur> AnActivist http://linux-wless.passys.nl/
[00:40] <pmp6nl> ohir ok, how is that diff than ubuntus encrypted hd?
[00:40] <bung_> acicula: ext3 then?
[00:40] <sp0spo> when desktop boots, it tries to mount drives that have already been mounted by root
[00:40] <gbear14275> LinuxGuy2009: hmm ok I'll check that.  I think I might just nuke my / and reinstall
[00:40] <uRock_> bung_, ext3 is the default used by .04
[00:40] <LinuxGuy2009> gbear14275: Oh ok hope that works for you then.
[00:40] <bung_> i knew it :)
[00:41] <gbear14275> LinuxGuy2009: looking good btw... are users going to be able to drag and drop other .iso's into the program too?
[00:41] <AnActivist> i'm not sure what chipset I'm looking for I only know the manufacturer
[00:41] <AnActivist> and the model
[00:41] <Loshki> g0tcha: that's very scary. What happened to your /var/lib/dpkg/status file? Can you ls -l it?
[00:41] <ohir> pmp6nl: afaik this is the only stable enough software that lets one mount same partition from within windoze and linux
[00:41] <acicula> bung_, yeah
[00:41] <Fishscene> How do I cancel a software installation in Ubuntu Software Center? Usually there's an X I can click on to cancel, but there isn't one =\
[00:41] <melkor> AnActivist: you probably don't need to know the chipset.
[00:41] <uiuiui> hi, i cant get dhcp3 to send out a dhcpnak...
[00:41] <pmp6nl> ohir ok, i now get what you are saying.  thanks
[00:41] <uiuiui> the client never gets the proper ip
[00:41] <ohir> pmp6nl: and you have asked about something that can be mounted in dual boot config
[00:41] <Alcor> Is this channel going to stay as support for 9.10, or is it going with the 10.04 bunch?
[00:41] <AnActivist> ...yes I do and thats why I'm asking how to find out which chipset I have
[00:41] <LinuxGuy2009> gbear14275: Yes you can do that now with pre karmic. Lucid image is coming. Yeah drag and drop ISOs into it with ISO-Master. Directions are in the notes on the project
[00:42] <Blue11> anyone know where the conf files are for hobbit/xymon?
[00:42] <ChrisMorgan> The xubuntu site picture has broken image references in it (looks like it was SVG done in Inkscape) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand2?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=xubuntu-site.png - someone may wish to regenerate that picture.
[00:42] <sender> how do I get a session without X in ubuntu 10.04?
[00:42] <pmp6nl> ohir: thanks I will take a look
[00:42] <elie-m> it's ironic... now I need the help..
[00:42] <gbear14275> LinuxGuy2009: Awesome!!!
[00:42] <spikebike>  /wc
[00:42] <ohir> pmp6nl: your welcome.
[00:42] <Blue11> sender ctrl+alt+f1
[00:42] <sp0spo> when desktop boots, it tries to mount drives that have already been mounted by root. I don't know why or how to turn this off
[00:42] <darkkilla> re... just resolved my mplayer issue... the update simply removed mplayer-gui ;)
[00:42] <sender> Blue11: thanks
[00:42] <LinuxGuy2009> gbear14275: :)
[00:42] <g0tcha> Loshki, http://pastebin.com/b8tvAHnk
[00:42] <Loshki> Alcor: we support all currently supported/released versions of ubuntu I think...
[00:42] <skrag> question: for x64 ubuntu, if given the coise, do i want "i386" or "alpha" packages?
[00:42] <melkor> AnActivist: so your wireless doesn't work?
[00:42] <acicula> anyone know of a theme/icon pack that continues the grey scale icons used in the menu and for other systray apps like xchat?
[00:42] <uRock_> you people quit downloading ubuntu, the servers are bogged and I can't run my updates
[00:42] <Alcor> thx
[00:43] <Wizzup> imagine7xy: What version of ubuntu are you on?
[00:43] <Loshki> g0tcha: well, you seem to be missing your status file. Any idea what happened to it?
[00:43] <sender> Blue11: this doesn't work, apparently the keyboard is not working on the login screen :(
[00:43] <imagine7xy> Wizzup: I am on 10.4
[00:43] <elie-m> I cant upgrade to lucid cz of a stupid error: "Cannot Calculate the Upgrade"
[00:43] <darkkilla> lol "quit downloading ubuntu"... :D never ever, are we?
[00:43] <Wizzup> imagine7xy, ok. How did you install a driver?
[00:44] <g0tcha> Loshki, not really =/ this is a VM and i only use it from time to time to run a local web/ftp servers
[00:44] <Guest92153> just tried installing 10.4 NBR on my aspire one, when i boot it just gives me a black screen with a flashing cursor
[00:44] <sp0spo> How come when I login to desktop it says that it tried to mount a drive that I already mounted in via root and fstab?
[00:44] <imagine7xy> Wizzup: I downloaded a .run file, from ATI's website, their Radeon Linux Drivers, and ran it
[00:44] <Guest92153> any ideas?
[00:44] <Wizzup> imagine7xy: The script should also have the --uninstall option, or similar/
[00:44] <TuxTaming> lucid
[00:44] <zerocool> can some one help roll back the old drivers
[00:44] <melkor> sender: can you boot to cmd prompt?  Its an option for me in save mode.
[00:45] <Loshki> g0tcha: look in /var/backups for files named dpkg.status or similar....
[00:45] <Wizzup> imagine7xy: can you link me to the file?
[00:45] <melkor> sender: also have you tried ctrl+alt+f2  to get to the second tty.
[00:45] <chrometiger> is there anyway to make the update to 10.04 faster ?  im on cable and its downloading at like 10kbs/sec
[00:45] <running_rabbit07> sudo apt-get dinner, cause I am busy
[00:45] <sender> melkor: I dont get prompted for a safe mode/console... It boots right into the Gnome login screen, at that moment I can't use the keyboard
[00:45] <Loshki> chrometiger: everybody's doing the same as you. The only cure is patience...
[00:45] <zerocool> can someone please help
[00:46] <g0tcha> Loshki, yeah, i found 3 backups, 2 are gzipped
[00:46] <elie-m> I need help people, I cant upgrade...
[00:46] <uRock> zerocool, ask away
[00:46] <melkor> sender: Maybe escape or something early?
[00:46] <kudkillioughta> anybody successfully install the netbook remix yet?
[00:46] <DarkMasterHalo> chrometiger: I guess you could change the mirror you are connecting too.
[00:46] <imagine7xy> wizzup: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[00:46] <LinuxGuy2009> !TTY
[00:46] <Loshki> g0tcha: choose the latest and copy it to /var/lib/dpkg/status. If it's gzipped, unzip the copy...
[00:46] <chrometiger> Loshki: lol  well im in for a bit of 17 hour patcience
[00:46] <kudkillioughta> i tried installing it with unetbootin a few times and every time i try to boot after it says it's installed correctly i just get a blinking cursor
[00:46] <Wizzup> imagine7xy: I have to leave, but a few things. If you just did a clean install of 10.04, you can do it again; and then install the driver with the package manager. System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[00:47] <Wizzup> secondly, the ati/amd driver .run file should ahve a --uninstall option
[00:47] <DarkMasterHalo> chrometiger: I'm currently doing it at 200KB/s :D
[00:47] <Loshki> chrometiger: Dunno what you expected. It's like a one day sale at Macy's
[00:47] <Wizzup> run it with --help, and it will most likely show it
[00:47] <Soul_Sample> i have a weird pulseaudio issue, can anyone help? i lose sound in my whole system, but when i switch to a tty and back it returns???
[00:47] <Wizzup> you can also try just installing the ubuntu one over the currently installed one, butr I don't recommend it
[00:48] <imagine7xy> Wizzup:  Do I run the .run file?
[00:48] <Loshki> Soul_Sample: I had good luck with this: http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/525-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu910-karmic-koala
[00:48] <acicula> anyone know of a theme/icon pack that continues the grey scale icons for the menu and for other systray apps like xchat?
[00:48] <RedWagon> anyone know how to get Empathy to minimize to the system tray?
[00:48] <kjele> Guest92153: Hold shift after bios image to get grub list. If there are none then maybe you need a reinstall or grub did not install successfully. It could also mean that the bios is not loading the hdd. Best to get into the live cd to check if you did installed ubuntu
[00:49] <Soul_Sample> Loshki: did you have the same issue?
[00:49] <Wizzup> imagine7xy: if it has the uninstall option. <I'm afk now, good luck>
[00:49] <melkor> sender: how about what kjele said?
[00:49] <Loshki> Soul_Sample: No, not exactly.  Does this mean that I have the 64bit version of Ubuntu? (
[00:50] <quietone> Can anyone point me to a simple guide for partitioning for installing multiple distro (ubuntu/kubuntu/gNewSense)
[00:50] <K_Dallas> Linux 2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 08:09:38 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:51] <melkor> K_Dallas: looks like it.
[00:51] <sender> melkor: shift doesnt work, and I've installed with the option: 'continue install without grub', which was not necessary I thought b/c 1) it wasnt installed and 9.10 worked perfectly, 2) it's running in a VM, no need to dual boot that.
[00:51] <sender> melkor: apparently running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup', should solve the issue (http://communities.vmware.com/message/1508704#1508704), my problem is: now how do I boot without X ...
[00:51] <K_Dallas> melkor, I was not sure about x86_64 but it should be 64. Thanks
[00:52] <kudkillioughta> kjele,  when holding shift it just says "loading grub" then back to a blank screen with a blinking cursor
[00:52] <melkor> sender: so your keyboard works now?
[00:52] <xomp> Good job on 10.04 guys, I'm loving it!
[00:52] <mosno> does skype work on 10.04 x86_64 without dirty hacks?
[00:53] <Ste4lth> Hey guys.
[00:53] <mosno> or should i stick to x86
[00:53] <melkor> sender: any solutions I could think of involve grub...I think there are boot parameters that let you not boot to gnome
[00:53] <j800r> jeeesus. the ubuntu restricteds are taking forever to download
[00:53] <Loshki> Soul_Sample: pulseaudio is very buggy. You can remove it entirely if you like: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-all-pulseaudio-related-issues.html
[00:53]  * SlipperyChicken loves dirty hacks.
[00:53] <j800r> people must really be going crazy atm
[00:53] <mosno> SlipperyChicken, :-)
[00:53] <Ste4lth> So, how does everyone like the new LTS?
[00:53] <aj00200> !hi | Ste4lth
[00:53] <sakekasi> hello
[00:53] <ddrj> SlipperyChicken: dirty hacks that WORK
[00:53] <sender> melkor: no, well I got into GRUB now, (dont ask me I've tried hitting shift a mil times) should I boot recovery mode?
[00:53] <melkor> Ste4lth: compiz worked out of the box.
[00:53] <kudkillioughta> honestly i don't need grub at all, i'm not dual-booting on the netbook
[00:53] <sakekasi> i have a bit of a concern about ubuntu
[00:53] <Soul_Sample> Loshki: that was my original idea, but i remembered that i couldn't enable individual volume controls for all applications
[00:53] <Ste4lth> I tried to use 10.04 and it didn't work at all...
[00:54] <kudkillioughta> i just did a standard install and told it to use the entire HDD
[00:54] <emes> so I just updated and X11 won't start, seems to be an fglrx issue, how do I remove it completely?
[00:54] <melkor> sender: recovery mode should give you the option to boot to a cmd prmpt w/out x/gdm
[00:54] <kjele> kudkillioughta: You might try to use the live cd to install grub again or just try another reinstall of ubuntu. Try do not skip any configuration when it ask you to.
[00:54] <Loshki> Soul_Sample: that's true. Pick your poison, I guess....
[00:54] <Oer> you need grub for different kernel versions too .. not only 2 x OS
[00:54] <Soul_Sample> Loshki: windows! :P
[00:54] <Ste4lth> Like, on launch of LCD, it decided to screw up and launch 50+ file managers.
[00:54] <sender> melkor: awesome, trying right now
[00:54]  * SlipperyChicken 's life is a GIANT FILTHY hack,
[00:54] <Soul_Sample> Loshki: i did all this, i'll go and restart to see what i've accomplished
[00:54] <kudkillioughta> kjele, i'll try that again, but i've already installed twice
[00:54] <sakekasi> i want to install 10.04 in dual boot with win7, but the last time i did that, my grub died, and then my harddisk developed bad sectors. (im not sure if this was caused by a fall or ubuntu)
[00:55] <sakekasi> should i install ubuntu?
[00:55] <mosno> oh right, they seem do distribute an x86_64 edition: http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-64
[00:55] <sakekasi> i really want to
[00:55] <Wolf> Howdy. I've got a Dell 1501 Inspiron. Getting a screen full of vertical stripes on boot from a known good CD. DVD drive is working. Would appreciate some help.
[00:55] <SlipperyChicken> sakekasi, no don't.  you're turn into a bear.
[00:55] <kjele> kudkillioughta: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[00:55] <Ste4lth> Wow, this is hard to follow lol.
[00:55] <SlipperyChicken> you'll
[00:55] <sakekasi> slipperychicken huh?
[00:55] <Meeko> !raid
[00:55] <ballongen> hi! ubuntu 10.4, i have installed netbook-launcher-package. I can start it manually. But when i add it to startup programs, both "netbook-launcher" and "/usr/bin/netbook-launcher" it doesnt start whe ni login, what should i do?
[00:55] <sender> kudkillioughta: do you have keyboard on login screen problems?
[00:55] <Loshki> sakekasi: ubuntu may do many things, but it doesn't cause bad sectors. Hard drives develop bad sectors all by themselves without any help from operating systems....
[00:56] <kudkillioughta> no problems on the liveusb, but when it says it's done installing i can't get it to load anything after the bios splash
[00:56] <sakekasi> Loshki ok thanx
[00:56] <DarkMasterHalo> sakekasi: It is just a coincidence, Grub nor Ubuntu will hurt your hard drive !
[00:56] <kudkillioughta> like anything at all, just blank screen with cursor blinking
[00:56] <sakekasi> DarkMasterHalo my grub was killed by win7 multiple times tho
[00:56] <SlipperyChicken> sakekasi, people don't like bears.  they eat our garbage and run around our college campus.
[00:56] <Loshki> SlipperyChicken: please stay on topic...
[00:56] <sender> kudkillioughta: ok, dont know about that, good luck
[00:57] <tehbone> I'm trying to install something on lucid, and I'm getting in the bytes per second download range
[00:57] <tehbone> WTF
[00:57] <tehbone> that happening to everyone?
[00:57] <sakekasi> DarkMasterHalo is there any proof that i can show my parents that ubuntu doesnt cause the bad sectors so that i can install it?
[00:57] <Wolf> tehbone: Have you tried going into Software Sources and finding a mirror for the software repository that is closest to you?
[00:57] <sender> melkor: is this for real? running recovery mode gives you root access without a password? Is this a bug?
[00:57] <tehbone> I live in the US not on mars...
[00:57] <tehbone> but I'll see
[00:58] <DarkMasterHalo> sakekasi: That is because Windows sometimes, with updates or reinstall, overwrite to Master boot Record of your hard drive, that is why we always install Linux after Windows :P
[00:58] <benji12> Hi, is there an updated version of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently ?
[00:58] <sakekasi> DarkMasterHali i did
[00:58] <sakekasi> DarkMasterHalo i did
[00:58] <Champagne> Problems with the automated install inside VMware Player?  I can't seem to get the guest OS to take keyboard control at the login prompt?!
[00:58] <deijsman> Hello!  Has anyone used the new dell latitude e6510 with ubuntu?
[00:58] <Loshki> sakekasi: you have bigger problems than that. If your drive is reporting bad sectors, it may be about to fail. Make sure you have backups of anything indispensible, and consider running SMART tools. You may soon be in the market for a new hard drive...
[00:58] <sakekasi> but DarkMasterHalo it still killed my grub MULTIPLE TIMES
[00:58] <Wolf> tehbone: It is a release day. If you're trying to download from the main archive, that might be why you're having slow speeds. Try somewhere closer to you geographically.
[00:58] <ballongen> hi! ubuntu 10.4, i have installed netbook-launcher-package. I can start it manually. But when i add it to startup programs, both "netbook-launcher" and "/usr/bin/netbook-launcher" it doesnt start whe ni login, what should i do?
[00:59] <gaysquirrel> hey can someone tell me the command to update to lucid lynx
[00:59] <tehbone> switched from US to main server, we'll see how this works
[00:59] <pentarex> hey guys
[00:59] <gaysquirrel> hey can someone tell me the command to update to lucid lynx???
[00:59] <pentarex> I have problems with 10.04 and netbook
[00:59] <Wolf> gaysquirrel, try Alt+F2 then enter update-manager -d in the box
[00:59] <Champagne> gaysquirrel:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade isn't it?
[00:59] <tehbone> sudo apt-get dist upgrade?
[00:59] <biggerfisch> sakekasi: How do you know that windows killed the grub and that it wasn't a bad sector on the grub?
[00:59] <pentarex> I want to scroll down in System->Preferences but it goes back to start position
[00:59] <tehbone> 4.5KBps I'm rolling!
[01:00] <DarkMasterHalo> sakekasi: Well, I've seen one Windows updates and several Service Pack causing this issue.  Maybe your hard drive is starting to fail.  It is hard to say.
[01:00] <Typos_King> gaysquirrel:    if you can, may rather do a full-install, or back yourself up  before upgrading
[01:00] <Champagne> Took me 3.5 hours to download the i386-desktop torrent on a 25Mbit connection.
[01:00] <sakekasi> biggerfisch the first time i ran windows after reinstalling grub, it always killed grub
[01:00] <gaysquirrel> eh idk
[01:00] <Don_Miguel> Typos_King, agreed !
[01:00] <Wolf> Howdy. I've got a Dell 1501 Inspiron. Getting a screen full of vertical stripes on boot from a known good 10.04 CD. DVD drive is working. Would appreciate some help.
[01:00] <biggerfisch> sakekasi: What are you defining as "killing" grub?
[01:00] <gaysquirrel> whats that command that if someone tells u to do it u shouldnt cuz itll mess your whole system up
[01:00] <Loshki> gaysquirrel: start here: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/beta1
[01:00] <kjele> Wolf: Should not need for the -d anymore
[01:01] <sakekasi> biggerfisch after my bios loaded it said that grub died
[01:01] <zerocool> can some one reallt help me!!!
[01:01] <brah-> i cant even type my pass into new ubuntu login
[01:01] <brah-> lame
[01:01] <Champagne> remove files, recursively, forced, starting at root   rm -rf /
[01:01] <hmw> !ask | zerocool
[01:01] <brah-> there goes all my files
[01:01] <brah-> thanks alot ubuntu
[01:01] <zerocool> my pc freezes on Ubuntu 9.10 and 10.04
[01:01] <Champagne> brah:  I have the same problem.  It doesn't seem like it will take keyboard control.
[01:01] <sender> brah-: same here
[01:02] <sqr47> Can someone help me fix the low resolution Plymouth boot screen with my ATI Mobility Radeon driver?
[01:02] <nsahoo> somehow the update-manager is not detecting the new release
[01:02] <silipcantot> hello
[01:02] <Loshki> gaysquirrel: no shortage of deadly commands. Anything with rm in it is suspect...
[01:02] <waltercool> Hey... Ubuntu website shows a problem here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading , step 6 of 9.10 to 10.4 shows a image with Beta Lucid
[01:02] <sender> brah-: I am trying this now: http://communities.vmware.com/message/1508704#1508704
[01:02] <waltercool> zerocool, cool nick bro
[01:02] <FiReSTaRT> sqr47: you'll have to get into the grub settings for that... i'm not sure if you wanna be touching that
[01:02] <hunahpu> nsahoo: what version are you running? is everything up to date?
[01:02] <silipcantot> Newbie here, can anyone help me install wubi? It's saying there is no CD on the disk?
[01:02] <Random832> so - my video keeps flashing (it's like it's trying to change resolution, but changing to the same resolution) after coming back from display sleep mode until i reboot
[01:02] <Random832> any ideas? intel 915
[01:03] <kjele> waltercool: Try change mirror
[01:03] <sqr47> FiReSTaRT: are there any other ways to fix it? i wouldnt think going grub would do anything
[01:03] <biggerfisch> sakekasi: Well, like DarkMasterHalo said, there are quite a few possible reasons for this.  To me, it sounds like your hard drive is failing, but thats just my opinion
[01:03] <nsahoo> hunahpu: running 9.10 here. it's showing everything upto date. but, no upgrade
[01:03] <FiReSTaRT> sqr47: you sure? hang on a sec and i'll give you the instructions for the fix
[01:03] <sakekasi> biggerfisch i got a new hd
[01:03] <sqr47> nsahoo: are you using a wubi installation?
[01:04] <tehbone> holy rubbish 477 bytes per second?
[01:04] <hunahpu> nsahoo: if you have extra repos installed, try disabling them; and try to upgrade via command line with "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:04] <kudkillioughta> kjele, still there?
[01:04] <nsahoo> hunahpu: i also tried selecting a different server, by clicking select best server in software sources, it says no suitable server found check your connection. connection is of course working otherwise won't be chattin on irc
[01:04] <kjele> kudkillioughta: Yes
[01:04] <nsahoo> sqr47: what is wubi
[01:04] <KiiK> any aptitude command equal to "apt-get -t" ?
[01:05] <biggerfisch> sakekasi: I know of no way that any program can cause bad sectors, except if you repeatably crash your computer
[01:05] <kudkillioughta> i got into grub and had it boot in recovery mode, found where it's hanging
[01:05] <sqr47> nsahoo: nevermind then
[01:05] <kudkillioughta> ata4: DUMMY is the last printout it has
[01:05] <sakekasi> i think thats what win7 did to mah grub or something
[01:05] <Typos_King> sakekasi:     sudo apt-get install smartmontools;     S.M.A.R.T. is a OS-independent feature implement on most/all new HDs, the tools get information already found and provided by the HD, usually when it finds a bad cluster/sector, automatically marks
[01:06] <Champagne> sender:  How do I pull up the on-screen keyboard?
[01:06] <nsahoo> sqr47: :)
[01:06] <zerocool> some one !!!! PLEASE HELP! My Intel GPU is crashing my ubuntu
[01:06] <nsahoo> i upgraded my office computer, it was smooth
[01:06] <FiReSTaRT> sqr47: 1) open terminal and gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub in it you will find a line #GRUB_GFXMODE=640×480.. uncomment it and change it to your native resolution.. save and close
[01:06] <nsahoo> can't do it at home
[01:06] <kjele> kudkillioughta: So you have a kernel to boot into?
[01:06] <biggerfisch> zerocool: which driver set are you using?
[01:06] <sakekasi> Typos_King cool
[01:06] <imagine7xy> sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-dev fglrx-modaliases
[01:06] <zvacet> does anyone else have problem with user switch
[01:06] <e1hn4nd3r> Did 10.04 get the dual-boot and the keyboard things fixed?
[01:07] <kudkillioughta> yes
[01:07] <sqr47> FiReSTaRT: will that also fix the part of plymouth only showing up for like two seconds?
[01:07] <Wicked> !virtualbox
[01:07] <sender> Keyboard problem on 10.04 Gnome login screen solution: http://communities.vmware.com/message/1508704#1508704
[01:07] <Champagne> sender:  How do I pull up the on-screen keyboard?
[01:07] <FiReSTaRT> sqr47: 2) gksudo gedit /etc/grub.d/00_header find the part that says gfxmode=${GRUB_GFXMODE} i think it's line 103 and under that line add a new line that says set gfxpayload=keep   save and close
[01:07] <FiReSTaRT> sqr47: 3) in terminal paste sudo update-grub
[01:07] <Typos_King> sakekasi:     however the rule-of-thumb is, the HD will continue to deteriorate, and more sectors will spring up, thus is a good idea to back things and up shop around for a replacement
[01:08] <Typos_King> s/sectors/bad &/
[01:08] <e1hn4nd3r> sender: So we should basically not use Easy Install to do the install for 10.04?
[01:08] <sakekasi> Typos_King i already replased hy harddrive
[01:08] <sender> Champage, you reboot, press shift, you get the GRUB menu, select 'recovery mode', select 'root console', now you can run the command
[01:08] <FiReSTaRT> sqr47: that should fix it.. plymuth isn't working in native resolution when running on nvidia drivers so some crazy serb posted up the instructions... i just followed them and it worked :)
[01:08] <Champagne> OK, thanks
[01:08] <FiReSTaRT> sqr47: didn't really get into the internals to know what does what
[01:08] <pentarex> hey guys can anyone help me please with scrolling problem
[01:08] <sakekasi> Typos_king what shud i execute when i m done installing the smartmontools
[01:08] <sender> e1hn4nd3r: I upgraded from an existing install that was done with easy install, so I am not 100% positive on that
[01:08] <sqr47> FiReSTaRT: thanks
[01:09] <brah-> i found a easier way to fix the problem
[01:09] <FiReSTaRT> sqr47: np and good luck
[01:09] <brah-> just use onscreen keyboard
[01:09] <hmw> FiReSTaRT: i think that does still not work. plymouth is somehow broken. I am forced to use my console at the highest possible resolution, my CRT can display ./(
[01:09] <kudkillioughta> kjele,  seems as though it's some kind of error with mounting my hdd...think i should just do a full reformat and try reinstalling?
[01:09] <kjele> kudkillioughta: Kinda strange. Could be that your live usb is broken too
[01:09] <Typos_King> sakekasi:     just do a 'smart<tab>'   to autocomplete, I think is smartmon :)
[01:09] <FyreFoX> i've tried to upgrade to lucid from jaunty on 2 different machines now and I keep getting 'the package ubuntu-desktop is marked for removal but it is in the removal blacklist'
[01:09] <sqr47> ill try, though i might be better off just keeping the driver uninstalled, everything works still but for some reason the system says that it's uninstalled, is this a bad thing?
[01:09] <e1hn4nd3r> sender: Will try to confirm with a non-Easy Install installation on my VMWare installation here at work.
[01:09] <FiReSTaRT> hmw: dunno.. worked for many of us with nvidia graphics running the proprietary driver.. not sure about the rest
[01:09] <kudkillioughta> kjele,  can i just add all of the netbook remix things after an install?
[01:10] <sender> e1hn4nd3r: ok
[01:10] <kjele> kudkillioughta: Yes
[01:10] <wrinkliez> is anyone noticing the little black bar in firefox 10.04 between the tab and the website?
[01:10] <hmw> FiReSTaRT: oh, sorry, i thought your talk was about intel
[01:10] <kudkillioughta> i'm just going to go with a standard install and add them after the fact then
[01:10] <Loshki> sakekasi: gsmartcontrol is a great gui for smartmontools: http://gsmartcontrol.berlios.de/home/index.php/en/About
[01:10] <sqr47> FiReSTaRT: did that make any sense? me: "ill try, though i might be better off just keeping the driver uninstalled, everything works still but for some reason the system says that it's uninstalled, is this a bad thing?"
[01:10] <kudkillioughta> i'm having terrible luck with trying to install from an .iso on a liveusb
[01:10] <zvacet> FyreFoX: you can not upgrade directly from jaunty to lucid
[01:10] <silipcantot> can anyone help me?
[01:10] <dios_mio> so guys... is it normal for the new ubuntu to take 1 1/2 hours to install?
[01:10] <FiReSTaRT> hmw and sqr47: another nice tip for you guys if you wanna move the buttons back to the right side of the window is to download this script http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X1342&site=maletaski.wordpress.com&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpastebin.com%2Fh1QnxBd1&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fmaletaski.wordpress.com%2F make it executable and run it... worked for me :)
[01:10] <hmw> kudkillioughta: what's the problem?
[01:10] <Typos_King> smartmontools is GUI, latest version for that matter
[01:11] <LinuxGuy2009> Is it legal for other distros to use the term (Lucid) ?
[01:11] <reportingsjr> dios_mio: it depends on the computer.
[01:11] <hmw> FiReSTaRT: does it explayin, how to get back the icon on the top left, too?
[01:11] <GrizzLyCRO> how can i disable shift and ctrl in gnome? i cant play games normally because inputs gets awkward whilke hodling mod keys
[01:11] <jbuncher> anyone having trouble with gwibber and updating twitter?
[01:11] <biggerfisch> dios_mio: it takes my computers a while to install
[01:11] <FiReSTaRT> sqr47: it does make sense.. if you dont need fancy desktop effects or 3d acceleration, you should be perfectly fine using the open driver
[01:11] <dios_mio> reportingsjr, can i like change my apt server to get a faster one?
[01:11] <FyreFoX> zanpakuto: hrm.. oh wrong name, I mean karmic 9.10
[01:11] <FiReSTaRT> hmw: nope but i never used that one so no great loss for me :)
[01:11] <Brando753> Guys im trying to get ubuntu 10.4 to work with broadcom wirless but i cant enable the hardware drivers
[01:12] <zvacet> dios_mio : under system>admin>software sources,
[01:12] <hmw> FiReSTaRT: i miss the icons, that always have been in the top left corner. i never know, which browser i am in now
[01:12] <Loshki> Typos_King: are you sure about smartmontools being a gui? I don't see it....
[01:12] <FyreFoX> zvacet: hrm.. oh wrong name, I mean karmic 9.10
[01:12] <aj00200> I recently broke Ubuntu and I'm using the live CD to backup my home folder. How can I restore this?
[01:12] <FiReSTaRT> hmw: i just keep my preferred browser open and only run others for compatibility :)
[01:12] <kudkillioughta> hmw,  i've tried 3 times to install the 10.04 netbook remix onto my acer aspire one, every time my netbook says it installed successfully and just hangs after install
[01:12] <sqr47> FiReSTaRT: well NO driver is installed, but EVERYTHING works fine, even 3d and everything, im assuming it's installed but the system just doesn't recognize it, that's why plymouth goes to the nice fancy screen and it tells me that i need to activate the driver when i open up "Device Drivers"
[01:12] <nsahoo> still no luck with the upgrade to 10.4
[01:13] <zvacet> FyreFoX : well,that is something different
[01:13] <FiReSTaRT> sqr47: hmm you were having plymuth issues without installing the proprietary driver?
[01:13] <Ergo^> im having issues with movie playback, gstreamer probably, totem doesnt want to play any movies complaining avout lack of codecs, be it divx, x254, on6 whatever
[01:13] <dios_mio> reportingsjr, so say bro.. how do i kill this nvidia driver uploader? cant find it in ps
[01:13] <gaysquirrel> i tried updateing and it says an apt-get process is running how do i kill it
[01:13] <FiReSTaRT> sqr47: in that case i hope you didn't follow my instructions (probably nothing bad will happen but still) b/c you have another issue
[01:13] <Loshki> sakekasi: Typos_King: ah, sudo apt-get install gsmartcontrol
[01:13] <dios_mio> reportingsjr, nvidia driver downloader, sorry
[01:13] <FyreFoX> zvacet: could it be because I run xfce rather than gnome?
[01:13] <Typos_King> Loshki:       yes, it comes with gsmarcontrols package in the install, I ran smartmon I think and it loaded a GUI
[01:13] <sakekasi> Loshki
[01:13] <sakekasi> yes
[01:14] <sqr47> FiReSTaRT: no, i didnt follow them, but i wasnt having any issues besides the graphics driver being confused, i mostly just came in here to find out if that was a bad thing
[01:14] <Typos_King> Loshki:       it came with it automatically :|
[01:14] <gaysquirrel> i tried updateing and it says an apt-get process is running how do i kill it
[01:14] <hmw> kudkillioughta: can you still switch to the console after the "hang up" (CTRL-ALT-F1) ?
[01:14] <Loshki> Typos_King: very good, I last tried in 8.04 and it wasn't bundled...
[01:14] <zvacet> FyreFoX : do you run just xfce or you have gnome too
[01:14] <FiReSTaRT> sqr47: they basically offer you the option of using a proprietary driver.. you don't have to if you dont wanna run compiz or play 3d games or use google earth
[01:14] <gaysquirrel> i tried updateing and it says an apt-get process is running how do i kill it
[01:14] <FyreFoX> zvacet: I have both
[01:15] <kudkillioughta> hmw, no
[01:15] <FiReSTaRT> sqr47: unfortunately i need all 3 and also wanna see if the nvidia 195 finally got hdmi sound working on 8400
[01:15] <SeanBannister> Is there any reason the 64bit version of 10.04 isn't shouwing on the download page? I presume it's not ready?
[01:15] <Champagne> gaysquirrel: that's a tought one, but I usually resort to rebooting.  You might try looking for dpkg or apt-get or something in "ps" and then "kill" the process by number?
[01:15] <zvacet> FyreFoX : try with sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:15] <craigbass1976> I've got these two packages that never go away in the update screen.  I'm on hardy, and they packages are cinelerracv-gl and libcinelerra.  I don't see them in the installed software list, nor can I get rid of either one of them in the command line with apt-get remove
[01:15] <Typos_King> Loshki:       actually, I just checked, I don't see it in the download, :|, anyhow, yes, get also then gsmartcontrols :)
[01:15] <Loshki> gaysquirrel: open a terminal and run ps ax | egrep apt       Do you see a process running?
[01:15] <sqr47> FiReSTaRT: i can do all those things, but i need to leave, "A malicious client is monitoring your session"
[01:15] <hmw> kudkillioughta: does it hang after install or after reboot-after-install?
[01:15] <gaysquirrel> Champagne, ok ill try a reboot
[01:15] <frankie_> hello i went to download my video drivers on the live cd and they finished in like 30 seconds, doing it on a real install of ubuntu and they are taking ages? why??
[01:15] <kudkillioughta> hmw,  i can get to grub and it goes as far as running /scripts/local-top and then hangs
[01:15] <Loshki> gaysquirrel: try ps ax | egrep apt first
[01:15] <Champagne> Do the Loshki thing first
[01:16] <sqr47> FiReSTaRT: im assuming that's a bad thing, i need to change my password now
[01:16] <sqr47> adios
[01:16] <kudkillioughta> hmw,  hangs after reboot-after-install
[01:16] <Champagne> sender: your VMware fix worked like a charm!
[01:16] <FiReSTaRT> holy...
[01:16] <FyreFoX> zvacet: nothing to be done, its installed already
[01:16] <theJKH> Will my Acer Aspire One Webcam work with Ubuntu 10.04? Will it work for Ustream?
[01:16] <silipcantot> Hi, Can anyone help me with Wibu? It's not installing. It says no disk insert disk pls
[01:16] <theJKH> My netbooks webcam.
[01:17] <sender> Champage: glad to hear! (but I just found the fix)
[01:17] <PiranhaP> I am trying to install Ubuntu/Lucid beside Mac OS X on a MacBook Pro (5,3), but the installer does not let me choose any partition besides the EFI or HFS+ (or entire disk) as the target for the bootloader.  Karmic had no problem when letting it "use the largest contiguous free space."  Is it safe to put on the disk, or on the EFI partition?
[01:17] <frankie_> hello i went to download my video drivers on the live cd and they finished in like 30 seconds, doing it on a real install of ubuntu and they are taking ages? why??
[01:17] <Champagne> Will 10.04 "fix" my WiFi problems on a Dell E1705?  I'm dreaming, I know it.
[01:17] <hmw> kudkillioughta: hmm... i am sorry, i have no clue either.
[01:17] <hmw> Champagne: try a live cd
[01:18] <Ergo^> im having issues with movie playback on 10.04, gstreamer probably, totem doesnt want to play any movies complaining avout lack of codecs, be it divx, x254, on6... whatever totem doesnt find decoders for video streams
[01:18] <TnEt> Downloading Ubuntu 10.04....11 mins to go!!
[01:18] <hmw> Ergo^: perhaps you try   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:18] <Ergo^> hmw, i have that installed
[01:18] <Loshki> Ergo^: try this: http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/937-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-1004-lts-lucid-lynx
[01:18] <jimi_> How can I see what serivices are available to my pc that is bound to a blue tooth device?
[01:19] <melkor> sender: in regards to the root access w/out a password.  I usually get a paswd prompt.  But you could always us a live cd and access it w/out a passwd too.
[01:19] <jbuncher> anyone having trouble with gwibber and updating twitter?
[01:19] <zvacet> FyreFoX : you can remove it until you finish upgrade and then install it again I´m looking how to do that
[01:19] <Ergo^> i have all gstreamer packes, good, bad , ugly etc.
[01:19] <chrometiger> TnEt: congrats  i have 11 hours
[01:19] <Brando753> Guys im trying to get ubuntu 10.4 to work with broadcom wirless but i cant enable the hardware drivers
[01:19] <hmw> sender: if you need to protect your data, use encryption.
[01:19] <sender> melkor: that's quite shocking.. not sth for a linux distro
[01:19] <Loshki> chrometiger: can you find an alternative mirror?
[01:19] <TnEt> chrometiger: How is it so far?
[01:20] <sender> hmw, I know, but it seems that even windows is better protected ...
[01:20] <greezmunkey> chrometiger, use torrent!
[01:20] <frankie_> how come everytime i move sound up and down i get this white flickr behind it ?
[01:20] <chrometiger> Loshki: i've already started it through update manager,   im too far in now
[01:20] <kjele> Brando753: try "sudo apt-get update" to update the list
[01:20] <hmw> sender: that's quite not so shocking, its how it ought to be. i can access windows, too, if it isnt encryped, from any live cd.
[01:20] <melkor> sender:  I can do the same think with windows.  Use a livecd and access the files.
[01:20] <Brando753> kjele: i dont have any internet wifi and wired wont connect
[01:20] <Moonlit> physical access = boned security
[01:20] <Champagne> sender: TrueCrypt.  Learn it, live it, love it!
[01:20] <Loshki> chrometiger: yes, risky to interrupt an upgrade....
[01:20] <zvacet> FyreFoX:  here http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[01:21] <Moonlit> (unless it's encrypted, of course)
[01:21] <sender> hmw, melkor, true, but a reboot and direct root access is even more convenient..
[01:21] <sender> Champagne: thanks, I'll look into it.
[01:21] <melkor> sender: like I said I get a passwd when I do it.
[01:21] <sender> melkor, hmw, well I guess you can set a pwd for root and this hole is plugged.
[01:21] <kjele> Brando753: Then you are in a tough situation. Since you need the net to install the drivers
[01:21] <hmw> sender: See it this way: this is only reminding you, that you forgot to use encryption.
[01:22] <FyreFoX> zvacet: k thanks
[01:22] <melkor> sender: its funny because they always say 'dont set a root passwd'
[01:22] <Leapo> Is there any way to switch back to usermode display drivers in Ubuntu 10.04? I'm really not comfortable with kernel mode, especially since the only reason it was implemented was to get rid of a few screen flashes during boot.
[01:22] <Champagne> Only downside is it doesn't seem to support ext3 or anything other than NTFS inside encrypted volumes.  Means to linux permissions, and you have to be root to mount volumes easily.
[01:22] <sender> melkor, who is that? ubuntu ppl?
[01:22] <hmw> melkor: i'll check, if it helps (i have a root pwd) brb
[01:22] <zvacet> FyreFoX:  yw  :)
[01:22] <melkor> sender: this channel
[01:22] <sender> melkor: ok :)
[01:22] <sender> melkor: why would that be
[01:22] <acicula> sender, melkor the policy is to not have a password or shell attached to the root account
[01:23] <melkor> sender: they want to discourage ruining your system.
[01:23] <sqr47> why does it take sooo long to change the password :/
[01:23] <acicula> sender, to discourage running and logging in as root
[01:23] <sender> acicula: and use sudo instead
[01:23] <acicula> sender, indeed
[01:23] <Champagne> melkor: without a password on root, I think you need to use sudo for everything or else "switch to" root by typing sudo su -
[01:23] <SeanBannister> Is there any reason the 64bit version of 10.04 isn't shouwing on the download page? I presume it's not ready?
[01:24] <sender> acicula: kinda twisted... maybe running as root should be made harder, but there should be some protection on root anyway.
[01:24] <Ergo^> so anyone here can confirm if divx can be played normally or not in 10.04 ?
[01:24] <MattEleven> join #casanueva
[01:24] <acicula> sender, there is, you have to make modification to login as root
[01:24] <^paradox^> ok just one more quick question before upgrading to ubuntu 10.04. i have kernel 2.6.24-27 and didnt wanna screw around with the grub so i was just gonna stick to ext3 files system. i was told this wouldnt be a problem?
[01:25] <sender> acicula: you mean running in recovery mode?
[01:25] <soreau> sender: It's a bad idea to run as root. You should do it if you're doing some system configuration or you understand exactly why you need to run as root
[01:25] <Xgates> I downloaded the ubuntu-10.04-alternate-amd64.iso, doesn't this allow me to pick and choose what I want to install?
[01:25] <greezmunkey> Installed 10.04LTS RC 18hrs ago, no updates after release! nice.
[01:25] <sender> soreau: I know, sudo is way better for a lot of situations
[01:25] <melkor> acicula: , sender logged in as root just by rebooting in safe mode.
[01:25] <kjele> ^paradox^: Assuming you do not upgrade to ext4 then it is ok
[01:25] <soreau> sender: running user applications as root is a bad idea for several reasons aside from security risks
[01:25] <Champagne> greezmunkey:  to be sure you want to fire two commands from the command interface:  sudo apt-get update   and   sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:25] <Loshki> Ergo^: my avis play fine using mplayer....
[01:26] <zvacet> sender:  read http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/sudo_root.8.html
[01:26] <sender> soreau: I'm just shocked that anybody with this knowledge can boot my system, enter recovery mode and get a root prompt without anyfor of authentication
[01:26] <hmw> sender: melkor: setting a root password results in a prompt in recovery mode. But that is still almost "no-security" unless you use encryption.
[01:26] <sender> soreau: I am aware of that
[01:26] <acicula> melkor, yeah in rescue mode its possible
[01:26] <^paradox^> kjele: what about the kernel version? i assume thats about the latest kernel i can get in 8.04 lts?
[01:26] <Ergo^> Loshki, what about totem ?
[01:26] <acicula> sender, well thats why you have encryption
[01:26] <sender> hmw: well, it's not easy to crack that password is it?
[01:26] <Ergo^> i can play with VLC too
[01:27] <acicula> sender, setting a root password will not keep an attacker with physical access out
[01:27] <hmw> sender: i put in a live cd or my usb thumb drive and have full access without a password at all
[01:27] <zvacet> sender : your comp is not safe if somebody else have access to it not just linux issue
[01:27] <sender> acicula: encryption is the ultimate step, true. but there is a lot in between
[01:27] <e1hn4nd3r> sender: Loading now.   As long you do not remove the old one you will have that too
[01:27] <soreau> sender: You can disable recovery mode prompt if you understand how to edit your kernel entry at boot loader time
[01:27] <sender> e1hn4nd3r: interesting
[01:27] <silipcantot> Can anybody help me install WUBI? It says there is no disk?
[01:27] <Champagne> zvacet:  I strongly agree.  Don't believe me?  Download "ultimate boot cd"  or some other BartPE discs and then "attack" your Windoze installation just as easily.
[01:28] <greezmunkey> Champagne: All good here :)
[01:28] <soreau> ! wubi | silipcantot
[01:28] <Xgates> anyone know if the ubuntu-10.04-alternate-amd64.iso, allows you to pick and choose what you want to install?
[01:28] <hmw> silipcantot: i don't know Wubi. Did you ask Google?
[01:28] <acicula> sender, are you trying to secure a box so that a physical attacker cant root it?
[01:28] <Loshki> Ergo^: totem searched for gstreamer plugins, I let it install them, and then it played. I much prefer mplayer though...
[01:28] <melkor> Xgates: no
[01:28] <Xgates> hey melkor, ahh I thought before you said it did?
[01:29] <melkor> Xgates: it gives you some options but it doesn't let you select specific packages
[01:29] <t3h2mas> I don't have to do anything besides update from the 2nd beta right?
[01:29] <sender> acicula: entering GRUB and getting root without password is so much easier than booting from a disk (e.g. my laptop has not drive) or a thumb
[01:29] <mikelifeguard> How can I see what ports are in use on the command line?
[01:29] <melkor> Xgates: is there something specific you want to avoid installing?
[01:29] <Xgates> it isn't giving me any options different then the regular install
[01:29] <enlil> Ok I just went to Karmic from Jaunty and SCIM doesn't work anymore
[01:29] <silipcantot> oh man. this is hopeless....
[01:29] <^paradox^> kjele: i was just looking at the release notes and it mentioned something or about 2.6.28 and later kernels, but im guessing those are 9.04, 9.10 and higher
[01:29] <frankie_> why do i get white flickering bars behind the volume display when i go to decrease or increase volume
[01:29] <zvacet> Champagne:  there is no 100% security even if you are only user and if somebody else have access forget security
[01:29] <ubuntu> erver irc.serenia.net
[01:29] <enlil> Actually SCIM seems to crash on startup, I've to kill it and start it again in a term
[01:30] <Xgates> melkor: yes most of what Ubuntu installs, I just want X is all, then I'll install something like Flux, or OpenBox
[01:30] <kjele> t3h2mas: Just keep your system updated with update-manager and you are fine
[01:30] <jimi_> How can I see what serivices are available to my pc that is bound to a blue tooth device?
[01:30] <andy__> Is there someone I could talk to about loading a program in wine here?
[01:30] <hmw> mikelifeguard: lsof -i :<portnumber>
[01:30] <acicula> sender, well you can fix that by locking down grub
[01:30] <sender> acicula: I think you can discourage ppl to (mis)use root AND have it secured by at least a password
[01:30] <studentz> Xgates  I use alternate CD it has more option than live CD like encrypt the partitions, different OS partitions etc
[01:30] <Typos_King> mikelifeguard:  netstat -a
[01:30] <enlil> But then, it doesn't react to the shortcut ctrl+spcace which used to work fine
[01:30] <enlil> Any idea? Any help?
[01:30] <mikelifeguard> Typos_King: that's the one; thanks :)
[01:30] <t3h2mas> kjele, But isn't there a new kernel etc? I don't think that installed with the updates or the beta install, not sure though
[01:30] <freezway> hey.... i am getting really slow connection speeds for update manager.... Is this b/c the servers are bogged down?
[01:30] <sender> acicula: we are talking about the lots of users who don't know linux too much, the switchers
[01:30] <melkor> Xgates: then you don't want the ubuntu alternate cd, there might be fluxbuntu or something, and maybe even the server version.
[01:30] <greezmunkey> freezway: you think...!
[01:30] <kjele> ^paradox^: lucid kernel is 2.6.32
[01:30] <Champagne> zvacet:  I think popping DRAMs into the freezer to recover my boot-time crypto keys is taking things too far.
[01:30] <pzn> Hi. I have a symbian bluetooth phone with a gprs dataplan. how can I connect to internet with my ubuntu notebook using bluetooth?
[01:31] <sender> acicula: I'll look into encryption and definitely set a password for root account in the mean time
[01:31] <acicula> sender, so why would they need a (separate) root password?
[01:31] <Xgates> melkor: ok, I noticed there are two alternate isos, one says desktop in it, what's with that one?
[01:31] <jimi_> pzn, maybe pppd
[01:31] <freezway> greezmunkey, Nah, thinking takes effort i prefer not to...
[01:31] <dominicdinada> !grub2
[01:31] <enlil> NobodY? :(
[01:31] <melkor> Xgates: the desktop is going to have the whole gnome suite.
[01:31] <andy__> Where would I go to figure out a problem with wine?
[01:31] <freezway> enlil, what is ut problem?
[01:31] <^paradox^> kjele: ok so thats what that was then. i figured thats what it was and why my kernels no higher than it is
[01:31] <kjele> t3h2mas: It will install
[01:31] <enlil> freezway, I just told id
[01:31] <brah-> think I may use xubuntu, remove any unecessary apps, then install vmware workstation in that
[01:31] <melkor> andy__: #wine, and search the winehq db
[01:31] <enlil> Ok I just went to Karmic from Jaunty and SCIM doesn't work anymore
[01:31] <brah-> and my os's in there
[01:31] <Xgates> melkor: is the alternate just installing Gnome, or other apps too?
[01:31] <enlil> But then, it doesn't react to the shortcut ctrl+spcace which used to work fine
[01:31] <sender> acicula: b/c anybody can boot into their system as root in the easiest way (without cd/usb)
[01:31] <enlil> Actually SCIM seems to crash on startup, I've to kill it and start it again in a term
[01:31] <enlil> But then, it doesn't react to the shortcut ctrl+spcace which used to work fine
[01:31] <FloodBot4> enlil: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:31] <laumonier1> since i have lucid i have a problem when im watching a video sometimes my screen bug i have a lot of line which appears and disapear fastly and i have to reset my laptop because i see nothing am i the only one who have this bug???
[01:32] <andy__> #wine
[01:32] <andy__> ok
[01:32] <freezway> enlil, and i just joined.
[01:32] <pipegeek> Just installed lucid, and am using empathy for the first time.  Very slick, but is there a way to cause it not to hide new messages, and just immediately open them in a window?  If so, I can't find it
[01:32] <chrometiger> Andy_: wineHQ.com
[01:32] <bastid_raZor> #winhq
[01:32] <bastid_raZor> winehq
[01:32] <enlil> freezway, oh! My bad :p
[01:32] <melkor> Xgates: It is the normal version with a lightweight installer.
[01:32] <acicula> sender, setting a password does not change that fact,nor offers improvement
[01:32] <pinnerup> Humm, upgrading to Lucid broke wireless connectivity on my EEEPC 901.
[01:32] <kjele> ^paradox^: If you are cautious then you should do a backup
[01:32] <enlil> freezway, si did you saw it this time? I repeated it. I've an issue with SCIM, on Karmic, that I didn't had on Jaunty :/
[01:33] <e1hn4nd3r> pinnerup: I could've swore I spotted a forum post on that.  Might want to do a quick search.
[01:33] <williamdix> upgrading to 10.04 broke everything on my Toshiba,, it will not boot, even in recovery mode
[01:33] <Chimecho> somebody there?
[01:33] <melkor> Xgates: I think the server version you can install w/out gnome.
[01:33] <sender> acicula: why not? There is the improvement that there is a password needed to have root
[01:33] <e1hn4nd3r> sender: 75% installed.  Will confirm shortly.  Sorry for the delay.
[01:33] <Rafase_282> hey
[01:33] <pinnerup> e1hn4nd3r: I've found it: http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9106299
[01:33] <xomp> hi, I just installed Ubuntu to this ONE HDD while every other HDD I have was completely disconnected. Now I'm unable to boot into my previous operating systems because of a grubrescue menu.. I don't see how Grub has managed to install itself onto 3 Hard Drives that were completely physically disconnected from my computer. Any ideas?
[01:33] <freezway> enlil, IDK what SCIM is, sorry
[01:33] <Chimecho> hey, anybody here speaks spanish?
[01:33] <mikelifeguard> I'm trying to start git-daemon with git-daemon --listen=git.my.host, but I get "fatal: unable to allocate any listen sockets on host git.hashbang.ca port 9418" What am I doing wrong?
[01:33] <Xgates> melkor: so no mono, f-spot, tomboy and other apps like that? Cause I don't want any of those or Ooo...
[01:33] <sender> e1hn4nd3r: no problem, thanks for testing
[01:33] <hmw> sender: having no password for root makes it impossible to log in as root via ssh
[01:33] <e1hn4nd3r> np.  :)
[01:33] <pipegeek> also it seems kind of a suboptimal irc client---every new message forces the message pane to scroll to the bottom, making it impossible to scroll up and see what's just been said
[01:33] <^paradox^> kjele: how does one backup ubuntu?
[01:33] <Rafase_282> has anyone done a multi live usb here?
[01:34] <frankie_> why is it taking so long to install a video driver that downloaded like 30 seconds on the live cd!! i am so confused!!! this is frustrating
[01:34] <pepee> williamdix, what errors can you see while booting?
[01:34] <Chimecho> I need some help here...
[01:34] <aguitel> there will be 10.04.01,10.04.02.... ?
[01:34] <xomp> !es | Chimecho
[01:34] <melkor> Xgates:  you can remove many of those afterwards if you like.
[01:34] <hmw> ^paradox^: i like to use my USB thumb drive with Ubuntu and "partimage"
[01:34] <^paradox^> kjele: or are you just saying to backup my files and home folder?
[01:34] <sender> hmw: so you are saying that having no password for root is actually a security improvement?
[01:34] <e1hn4nd3r> aguitel: No.  More than likely just a post-release set of updates.
[01:34] <kjele> ^paradox^: Just copy /home to a safe place
[01:34] <Champagne> K, kids.  I need to go pay attention to the wife now. Thank you!
[01:34] <Chimecho> thx ubuntu_
[01:34] <e1hn4nd3r> aguitel: Make sure you auto-update once a day.
[01:34] <sender> Champage: good luck
[01:34] <Chimecho> shit..
[01:34] <hmw> sender: in the case of Ubuntu, yes. They had a reason to do it this way.
[01:34] <Chimecho> thx ubottu
[01:35] <FloodBot4> Chimecho: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:35] <acicula> sender, you need a password and be an already privilidged user now to elevate yourself to root. Letting anyone go straight to root by setting, another, password merely weakens the overal scheme
[01:35] <Xgates> melkor: yeah sure, I'd rather just not have them installed in the first place, hehe, btw is the server version going to install server apps, like apache and other things, or just basically Ubuntu as a terminal?
[01:35] <^paradox^> kjele: well i have an external hard drive i could backup to
[01:35] <Xao> I am trying to install ubuntu 8.10 for my ps3. I got to the eboot screen and it just gets stuck. I can not get back into xmb mode either
[01:35] <aguitel> e1hn4nd3r, why is 8.04.01,8.04.02...
[01:35] <e1hn4nd3r> Xgates: Server has apache and all the normal server apps you'd normally find with a server distro.
[01:35] <NinoScript> Yay! no more #ubuntu+1 :D
[01:35] <e1hn4nd3r> aguitel: Couldn't tell you.
[01:35] <frankie_> why is it taking so long to install a video driver that downloaded like 30 seconds on the live cd!! i am so confused!!! this is frustrating
[01:36] <^paradox^> kjele: what are the possibilities of serious problems?
[01:36] <Xgates> e1hn4nd3r: yeah I figured that
[01:36] <hmw> frankie_: you are probably using a different repository now.
[01:36] <xomp> hi, I just installed Ubuntu to this ONE HDD while every other HDD I have was completely disconnected. Now I'm unable to boot into my previous operating systems because of a grubrescue menu.. I don't see how Grub has managed to install itself onto 3 Hard Drives that were completely physically disconnected from my computer. Any ideas?
[01:36] <kjele> xomp: Don't think it did. Try to boot into other hdd with bios setting and you will see.
[01:36] <andy__> There doesn't seem to be anyone in the wine channel right now any other ideas?
[01:36]  * stevecam is reinstalling soon
[01:36] <xomp> kjele, I tried that and I'm still getting the grubrescue menu
[01:36] <Xgates> crap the darn mini iso isn't giving support for my nic and wifi, cause that would then be the way to go and I thought the mini iso would support everything like Ubuntu does
[01:36] <e1hn4nd3r> Xgates: Sorry, your question seemed strange.  x_X;
[01:36] <williamdix> pepee, at the moment, it is trying to fsck, but isn't proceeding with that, but the problems have been changing a lot
[01:37] <kjele> ^paradox^: unbootable system to lost of data
[01:37] <sender> acicula: I understand that point. So it should be hard, really hard to go straight to root. Sudo should be used whenever possible. This is how all the docs should be etc. etc. But what scenario
[01:37] <Xgates> e1hn4nd3r: you said the server version came with all the server types of software and I said ---> yeah I figured that  :)
[01:37] <williamdix> earlier, it would boot to a prompt, but no X and dpkg and apt seemed to be broken
[01:37] <acicula> Xgates, not wireless, as not all wireless drivers can be distributed in such a way, the what nic card do you have?
[01:37] <Xgates> Atheros
[01:37] <xomp> kjele, The internal HDD's were physically disconnected when I installed Ubuntu 10.04 to an External USB HDD.
[01:37] <chrometiger> xomp: is your Ubuntu HD the primary drive
[01:37] <sender> *sorry, Maybe "su -" should be disabled while logged in.
[01:37] <pepee> williamdix, try checking the hdd from the live cd
[01:37] <studentz> frankie which video drive (nvidia, intel or ATI)?
[01:37] <acicula> sender, separate physical attacks from remote attacks and programs
[01:38] <melkor> Xgates: isn't atheros in the linux kernel ?
[01:38] <hmw> sender: there is simply no reason to let anyone log in as the system (aka root)
[01:38] <rafase282> hi
[01:38] <rafase282> Can anyone help me with a usb project?
[01:38] <xomp> chrometiger, in my BIOS it is currently, if I try setting say my Windows drive (which was the primary before) to be primary, I get the grub rescue menu.
[01:38] <kjele> xomp: When yoou boot now do you boot into the external or internal?
[01:38] <^paradox^> i know i need to upgrade, but i dont want my computer to become unusable.
[01:38] <rafase282> I want to be able to put multiple live cd and select which one to boot
[01:38] <Xgates> melkor: yeah it's in the kernel I think, all I know is if Ubuntu is installed everything works, so I didn't look to see if they are seperate drivers or in the kernel
[01:38] <sender> acicula, hmw: as far as remote root access: could you not simply set "AllowRootLogin no"?
[01:38] <hmw> xomp: disconnect the drive, that holds GRUB
[01:38] <xomp> hmw, I tried that too lol
[01:39] <acicula> sender, well su doesnt work by dfault either
[01:39] <Xao> I am trying to install ubuntu 8.10 for my ps3. I got to the eboot screen and it just gets stuck. I can not get back into xmb mode either any help to get ubuntu to install or get back into xmb mode for my ps3
[01:39] <xomp> this is just insane how it can do this
[01:39] <chrometiger> xomp: have you physically disconnected the ubuntu drive and pluged up the Win drive and tried
[01:39] <xomp> chrometiger, correct
[01:39] <hmw> sender: there is no reason to log in as the system (aka root). it would be just another possible security hole.
[01:39] <acicula> sender, though sudo works
[01:39] <sender> acicula: maybe root should be protected by a password (even the password of any kind, preset by ubuntu or set to the same as the user) when loggin in via console
[01:39] <virtuald> sebsebseb: you can't delete the top panel with the right click menu, i freed myself from it by setting /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/panel to avant-window-navigator.
[01:39] <acicula> sender, that just covers ssh
[01:39] <chrometiger> xomp:  im stumped then
[01:39] <xomp> chrometiger, is there a way to see if grub has installed itself onto these other hard drives?
[01:40] <acicula> sender, isnt that exactly how it is now ;)
[01:40] <e1hn4nd3r> Bloody language packs are standard now?  That's annoying...
[01:40] <xomp> chrometiger, I am too, I need to check my car to see if Grub installed on it somehow since it has magical powers of installation to things that aren't connected to it..
[01:40] <collier_s> Hi, i'm running Ubuntu 8.04.2  shouldn't i be able to run the update manager and upgrade to 10.04 ?
[01:40] <acicula> except you cant go straight for root, but you have to go via users that are already allowed to become root
[01:40] <sender> acicula: no, on the console I dont have to enter a password at all
[01:40] <acicula> collier_s, yeah
[01:40] <Xgates> melkor: all I know is when it came time to setup the net, it said it couldn't find the ethernet and I was like really bummed :(
[01:41] <acicula> sender, as a normal user?
[01:41] <melkor> acicula: do you have a root passwd set?
[01:41] <acicula> melkor, nope
[01:41] <e1hn4nd3r> Xgates: Two things.  Does lspci show your adapter?
[01:41] <hmw> acicula: sender: one cannot unmount /home, if they sudoed themselves to root. Therefore my root account has a password.
[01:41] <collier_s> acicula, i'm getting a "no new release found"
[01:41] <osiris> anoyone update from LTS to LTS and have mysql break ?
[01:41] <Xgates> e1hn4nd3r: If I'm running Karmic or Lucid it does
[01:41] <melkor> Xgates: how were you looking for you device?
[01:41] <acicula> hmw, heh yeah that poses a problem
[01:42] <raze> What is the command to regain your encryption key for your home folder?
[01:42] <sender> acicula, hmw: isn't the real problem here that grub loads a shell as root? Why is there no login prompt (a la ssh)?
[01:42] <e1hn4nd3r> Xgates: Possibly a driver/kernel change in the non-LTS releases broke it?
[01:42] <Xgates> e1hn4nd3r: it shows the ether and wifi and both work
[01:42] <dTal> raze: surely if there were such a command the encryption would be pointless?
[01:42] <pipegeek> Question about empathy: is there a way to make it open new conversations automatically, rather than forcing you to allow them one by one from the menu?
[01:42] <kjele> collier_s: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades
[01:42] <studentz> xom try fdisk -l   and look for Boot (second column) The stars tell you where is boot loader ( grub)
[01:42] <acicula> sender, because a grub password is mostly an inconvienance
[01:42] <JTSmeed> Attempting to install 10.04 64-bit on a touchsmart desktop with nvidia graphics from usb.  The colors are all screwed up (appear to be 8-bit or lower colors) and the screen is very dim at maximum brightness.  It installs without obvious error, but get a kernel panic on reboot.  I couldn't read all of the messages, but have a not syncing:  Attempted to kill init.  Also, caught a glimpse of something to do with nouveau.  Suggestions?
[01:42] <Xgates> melkor: I'm talking about the mini iso when you come to the section to have it setup and detect your network the installer comes back saying it can't find my ethernet
[01:42] <acicula> sender, and does not provide extra protection by itself
[01:42] <hmw> sender: if you want security, either hide GRUB totally (0 seconds delay) or use another boot loader. Physical access = no protection. period.
[01:43] <acicula> ^^
[01:43] <raze> dTal: I've used it already but it was about half a year ago.
[01:43] <ivo_> hmw you are simply not right
[01:43] <jbuncher> anyone having trouble with gwibber and updating twitter?
[01:43] <ivo_> install some C4 infront of the PC
[01:43] <ha1331__> Upgraded to 10.04. After I set visual effects to extra and imported my compiz settings to enable title bars and bordes for windows I find nothing new or changed. everything works, like it did with 9.10. Succesfull upgrade, tho I have no idea what is the benefit compared to 9.10
[01:43] <e1hn4nd3r> JTSmeed: Touchsmart is one of those touch-screen desktops, right?  Is the graphics adapter supported?  Maybe the touch stuff is breaking it?
[01:43] <ivo_> and some motion sensors
[01:43] <ivo_> :)
[01:43] <hmw> ivo_: we are assuming, that no encryption has taken place
[01:43] <david__> hey all can anyone help with installing adobe flash so i can get youtube to work?
[01:43] <ivo_> hmw, you only need C4 and motion sensors
[01:44] <ivo_> :)
[01:44] <e1hn4nd3r> ha1331: Themes, some other stuff.
[01:44] <acicula> <3 Txt, tpm and encryption
[01:44] <wrinkliez> hey guys, is there a reason that rhythmbox isn't closing to the tray or the window list?  it jut closes but keeps playing lol
[01:44] <e1hn4nd3r> ha1311: Read the changelog?  lol
[01:44] <sender> acicula, hmw: Yeah well an airbag is no 100% protection either, but it minimizes risk. Adding a password to the root account on console login (or having GRUB prompting for a existing username + password) would mean adding an airbar IMO
[01:44] <hmw> ivo_: i'd consider that NO physical access.
[01:44] <collier_s> kjele, update manager kicks off, but says it's up2date and the upgrade button is greyed out.  Could it be because i'm running ubuntu moblin edition on a dell mini?
[01:44] <ha1331__> e1hn4nd3r: themes... that propably is silliest reasons to upgrade.
[01:44] <Xgates> melkor: the thing is, if I have my CAT5 plugged into my nic during the install of Ubuntu for the regular iso it will detect it during the install and sync the time, so I don't get why the mini iso doesn't show support my nic too
[01:44]  * Xgates bangs head
[01:44] <studentz> david are you on 32 or 64 bit?
[01:44] <^paradox^> well i guess im gonna upgrade to 10.04 and see how it goes. lol i may need a hug afterwards
[01:44] <kjele> ivo_: Then how do you access the comp without blowing yourself?
[01:44] <hmw> sender: not having a root account is even better
[01:44] <e1hn4nd3r> ha1331__: I couldn't possibly tell you all the changes here.  Honestly, you'd have to check the changelog.
[01:44] <ivo_> some biosensors
[01:44] <acicula> sender, its equivalent to trying to stopping a 10ton truck with just your bare feet flinstone style
[01:44] <hmw> kjele: remotely with password
[01:44] <ivo_> for eye recognition
[01:45] <kjele> collier_s: Try another mirror
[01:45] <JTSmeed> e1hn4nd3r:  The touchscreen part actually worked fine in the installer and with previous versions of Ubuntu.  The graphics card is a standard Nvidia GeForce Go 6100.  I haven't tried on a different machine yet.
[01:45] <ivo_> or fingerprint scanner
[01:45] <collier_s> kjele, ok, i'll look through docs and figure that out.  thx
[01:45] <melkor> Xgates: it could be a network manager thing.  Does the mini-iso have a live version / cmd prompt?
[01:45] <e1hn4nd3r> sender: Confirmed!  VMWare EasyInstall script breaks the install.  Confirmed on Win7 /w VMWare Player 3.0.1
[01:45] <ha1331__> e1hn4nd3r: wasn't expecting that. I just taught there would be couple of biggies to mention.
[01:45] <anylake> how to register nickname of gstreamer channel
[01:46] <wrinkliez> anyone have any idea about my rhythmbox issue? -_-
[01:46] <d4rkmt7r> so how is everyone liking the new ubuntu?
[01:46] <Xgates> melkor:  live version / cmd prompt, what ya mean?
[01:46] <e1hn4nd3r> sender: I just got it to install cleanly by selecting "I will install the OS later" during the wizard setup and installed manually.
[01:46] <hmw> !ot | d4rkmt7r
[01:46] <melkor> Xgates: can you get to a shell from the mini version
[01:46] <kjele> ivo_: Kinda dangerous at your place
[01:46] <sp0spo> is there something to check file systems in ubuntu for ntfs file systems?
[01:46] <Xgates> melkor:  yeah
[01:46] <ha1331__> d4rkmt7r: I think it's as good as 9.10. Yet to spot any clear improvements
, no it is not
[01:47] <melkor> Xgates what does ifconfig give you?
[01:47] <ivo_> I just use encryption
[01:47] <ivo_> :D
[01:47] <e1hn4nd3r> sp0spo: IMO, I wouldn't recommend doing any kind of filesystem check with a *nix tool.  Too much could go wrong.
[01:47] <sender> e1hn4nd3r: interesting - this is a potential problem for a lot of users
[01:47] <hmw> sp0spo: not really. there is a tool, but it's docs say, it is not a replacement. Reboot to windows and use scandisk.
[01:47] <Typos_King> sp0spo:    yes and no, I think there is an ntfs tool, what about using a live-xp cd to do a checkdisk?  no good?
[01:47] <Xgates> melkor: ok hang tight, I need to erase a cd and burn this back on and boot it...
[01:47] <d4rkmt7r> ha1331:good to know, thanks
[01:47] <e1hn4nd3r> sender: I can imagine.  I'll look and see if there's a bugzilla thread for this.
[01:47] <Mathuin> Is this the right channel to ask questions about install trouble with Lucid Lynx?
[01:47] <hmw> sp0spo: that tool only finds certain kinds of errors, but cant fix the most
[01:47] <ivo_> melkor ku4e starao, long time no see
[01:47] <beek_> Mathuin, yes
[01:48] <Mathuin> beek_: thanks!
[01:48] <ivo_> melkor ku4e staro, long time no see
[01:48] <dugger5688> nvidia-settings broken?
[01:48] <Twiple> !partition
[01:48] <ha1331__> d4rkmt7r: hmm, nvidia driver seems to be updated, not sure what good that does, it works as fluently as the previous one.
[01:48] <Typos_King> sp0spo:    http://www.hirensbootcd.net/   get it, burn it, boot it, it has a heapload of tools  to do disk checks, also has a live-xp
[01:49] <mweijts> @<studentz> frankie which video drive (nvidia, intel or ATI)? onboard ATI Radeon 3100 gives flickering stripes
[01:49] <studentz> dugger5688 which card do you have?
[01:49] <d4rkmt7r> ha1331:sweet, might put on the desktop mchne then
[01:49] <Mathuin> When I attempt to install LL, I get an error dialog titled "Failed to create a file system" with the following text:  "The ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of Serial ATA RAID isw_diafhbhcbh_UbuntuMirror (mirror) failed."  I have already run "dmraid -a y" and the raid set was activated, and I was able mkfs on partition #1 by hand.  What am I missing?
[01:49] <sender> hmw, acicula: lol. So you guys think that it's not a gain in security that having a password on root will stop anybody encountering a physical ubuntu system (say in the library) to login as root?
[01:49] <BlueSherpa> anyone here know how to do multiline regexp matches using the ubuntu "expect" command?  This regexp isn't working:  (\n|.)*e is 65537
[01:50] <Axis`> Is this the final version? --->Ubuntu 10.04 LTS \n \l
[01:50] <dugger5688> students: 8800 I think
[01:50] <stevecam> yes
[01:50] <sender> hmw, acicula: or not having grub boot into root by default, for that matter.
[01:50] <Axis`> sweet
[01:50] <BlueSherpa> acicula: or bios password protected?
[01:50] <studentz> mwejts did you try fglrx?
[01:50] <ha1331__> d4rkmt7r: upgrade did unistall smplayer, if that makes any difference to you. Its still found and installable at software center. Not sure but atleast for 9.10 it was pretty old.
[01:51] <mweijts> studentz: no
[01:51] <raj> guys is there anyone in here capable of reading logs and determining how to fix? its about a game smokin guns... I have the log file openAL refuses to open and i get errors while trying to run VM any ideas? i would really appreciate any help :( here is my log file ANYONE? I couldnt FIND anything online!!!! http://pastebin.org/193449   PLEASE HELP :) THANK YOU
[01:51] <Axis`> nVidia 8800 GTS 512 was a pain to install :/
[01:51] <hmw> sender: 1) not having a password on root means nobody can login as root. That is better than having a password and allowing people to log in. 2) Ubunut decided to have it this way. Swallow it. 3) This is offtopic, please continue on #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:51] <Typos_King> BlueSherpa:   ubuntu 'expect'?    I don't have it, soooo ^_^, I do know regexps, and usually there's a 'multiline' switch you pass, otherwise the '.' doesn't include \n
[01:51] <ha1331__> Axis`: 9600GT works like a charm
[01:51] <jeh_> do I have to do anything special to upgrade from 10.04 beta to release?
[01:51] <Xao> I am trying to install ubuntu 8.10 for my ps3. I got to the eboot screen and it just gets stuck. I can not get back into xmb mode either any help to get ubuntu to install or get back into xmb mode for my ps3
[01:51] <dominicdinada> I am having a problem on my laptop that when i am typing the cursor position jumps. sometimes back to the middle of the textbox and sometimes it goes to a whole new window is this a driver issue or a touchpad sensitivity issue or what could it be?
[01:51] <studentz> mweijts it is in synaptic under lucid-proposed-restricted
[01:51] <hmw> jeh_: no, just keep updating as usual
[01:51] <Xgates> Typos_King: how well does that Hiren's BootCD work? Personally I found the Ultimate Boot CD to be a pain and slow/sluggish on the desktop it had to do things
[01:51] <Axis`> @ha1331_ how much memory is on your card?
[01:51] <jeh_> hmw : thanks :)
[01:52] <Typos_King> BlueSherpa:   there's a nice regex editor/tester for regex, 'kodos', is in the repos
[01:52]  * dugger5688 has deja vu....
[01:52] <ha1331__> Axis`: 512
[01:52] <Mathuin> Xao: wasn't PS3 Linux support disabled in the last PS3 system update?
[01:52] <msmooth> yes
[01:52] <jimlovell777> Ok I installed Lucid and manged to delete the volume control from the top right of the screen. I right clicked and selected "Add to panel" but there is no option related to volume. Any suggestions?
[01:52] <mweijts> studentz: thx gonna try
[01:52] <studentz> sweijts good
[01:52] <Xao> mathuin I dont know.. but i just want to get back into xmb mode
[01:52] <BlueSherpa> Typos_King: I tried one regexp tool, but it turns out that "expect" uses a funky version of regexp
[01:52] <Typos_King> Xgates:   it has an option for live-98 too, that didn't work for me, though I use the 10.2 version, they have 10.4 now, the live-xp session works very well, and the other tools too, the ones from the Hiren's boot menu
[01:53] <Mathuin> Xao: I don't think you can do that anymore. :-(
[01:53] <acicula> grub boots even before the os thinks about terms like root
[01:53] <hiexpo> hello all is lucid ready lol
[01:53] <acicula> its not even in protected mode
[01:53] <Axis`> same here... but i had to edit grub.cfg so my card would work
[01:53] <e1hn4nd3r> hiexpo: Lucid is released and available now.
[01:53] <dominicdinada> I am having a problem on my laptop that when i am typing the cursor position jumps. sometimes back to the middle of the textbox and sometimes it goes to a whole new window is this a driver issue or a touchpad sensitivity issue or what could it be?
[01:53] <raj> guys is there anyone in here capable of reading logs and determining how to fix? its about a game smokin guns... I have the log file openAL refuses to open and i get errors while trying to run VM any ideas? i would really appreciate any help :( here is my log file ANYONE? I couldnt FIND anything online!!!! http://pastebin.org/193449   PLEASE HELP :) THANK YOU
[01:53] <e1hn4nd3r> hiexpo: If you're installing to VMWare, note that you need to NOT use the Easy Install method.
[01:53] <acicula> sender, BlueSherpa bios/grub passwords only work as long as you can enforce physical security
[01:53] <ha1331__> Axis`: you had to edit Grub to get gpu to work? That's odd
[01:54] <sp0spo> anyone have a problematic seagate 1.5gb external hard drive, I have three freeagent ones and I think they all have bad sectors and might be broken by now
[01:54] <sender> hmw: Not a biggie, since I know - I'll set up a password for root in no time. But I others should know. Btw, you know that 1) is not true. That's why I've brought this up.
[01:54] <Fishscene> VMWare Ubuntu Easy Install Method = Easy fail method.
[01:54] <bsmith093> why can't i upgrade directly from jaunty to lucid
[01:54] <hiexpo> e1hn4nd3r, i wouldnever i would never do that i am happy with 9.10
[01:54] <^paradox^> ok im gonna go upgrade to 10.04 for real now lol. i guess ive procrastinated and sucked my thumb enuff lol
[01:54] <Xgates> Typos_King: thanks I'll give 10.4 a try
[01:54] <BlueSherpa> acicula: they're still a deterrent - like a big hefty door when you have a big window on the house
[01:54] <dominicdinada> I am having a problem on my laptop that when i am typing the cursor position jumps. sometimes back to the middle of the textbox and sometimes it goes to a whole new window is this a driver issue or a touchpad sensitivity issue or what could it be?
[01:54] <Xao> whats my best hope, can I just reformat my ps3 in eboot to get back into xmb. ive tried the ps3-boot-game-os but it gives me an error as unreadable
[01:55] <Div_By_Zero>  salve salve galerinha do bem
[01:55] <BlueSherpa> acicula: plus, most people don't know how to reset the bios password
[01:55] <Axis`> ha1331_ Yeah i had to add vmalloc=256MB under the default listing of Ubuntu in the cfg file
[01:55] <Typos_King> dominicdinada:    hehe, well, same here,  but I think is my touchpad, since my pad lies around my hand's wrist, but yeah, is not driver or stuff, I guess I can always disable it :P
[01:55] <sender> acicula, hmw: I think there must be a way to work out a more secure and elegant solution. I'll leave it for now. Just surprised.
[01:55] <hmw> sender: we already told you: encryption.
[01:55] <Axis`> i think i read somewhere that it was because i also have a hauppage 1600 tv card...
[01:55] <Typos_King> dominicdinada:    I used to have it disabled, never ran into this... thus
[01:55] <Axis`> it was late and my eyes were crossed
[01:55] <msmooth> wow
[01:55] <ha1331__> sweet, I spotted first improvement on 10.04. Disk utility has new features.
[01:56] <dominicdinada> I cant seeing it is my only mouse... but Maybe i need to find a program to change the sensitivity
[01:56] <msmooth> i just told someone how to restore the default applets on the panel
[01:56] <msmooth> and they accused me of doing something fishy
[01:56] <msmooth> rofl
[01:56] <raj> guys is there anyone in here capable of reading logs and determining how to fix? its about a game smokin guns... I have the log file openAL refuses to open and i get errors while trying to run VM any ideas? i would really appreciate any help :( here is my log file ANYONE? I couldnt FIND anything online!!!! http://pastebin.org/193449   PLEASE HELP :) THANK YOU
[01:56] <bsmith093> how msmooth
[01:56] <jbuncher> anyone having trouble with gwibber and updating twitter?
[01:56] <bsmith093> 'i need help resotring the default applets
[01:56] <Typos_King> dominicdinada:    maybe you just need a mouse :P, they're cheap you know
 gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel
 rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/panel
 pkill gnome-panel
 run those in terminal
[01:56] <FloodBot4> msmooth: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:56] <msmooth> will fix remvoed applets from the panel
[01:56] <e1hn4nd3r> raj: Should probably contact the team that made Smokin' Guns and post to their forums or email them.
[01:57] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  - ure quiet
[01:57] <msmooth> aka : volume control
[01:57] <bsmith093> thsnkd so much i had a neighbor ewith that problem
[01:57] <Xgates> melkor: still erasing the cd, but one thing I found interesting is on the Ubuntu site for the mini isos the AMD one for Lucid isn't listed but you can find it on the server, so it makes me wonder if it's complete or still in a testing stage
[01:57] <msmooth> etc
[01:57] <acicula> sender, intels trusted boot techology can be leveraged to get around the issue of bootstrapping trust on what and how you boot, but until that stuff gets mainstream anyone who can google can boot your machine whichever way they want
[01:57] <bsmith093> why can i not upgrade from 904 to 10.04
[01:57] <raj> e1hn4nd3r:  it takes too long to make an account of tehir forum .. they didnt approve me yet its been a day!!
[01:57] <dominicdinada> Typos_King:  that was not the question if i needed to go buy another mouse the sensitivity threshold just needs to be changed for my touchpad
[01:57] <Xgates> melkor: look ---> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD  no '64-bit PC (amd64)' Lucid mini, hmmm :/
[01:57] <e1hn4nd3r> raj: Patience is a virtue.
[01:57] <melkor> Xgates: I wouldn't know, it seems really on that the lan doesn't work.
[01:57] <acicula> sender, hence encryption is good ;)
[01:58] <dominicdinada> !touchpad
[01:58] <sender> acicula, hmw: does that stop login as root via GRUB?
[01:58] <hmw> sender: a BIOS password might be an additional layer of (pseudo) security
[01:58] <acicula> sender, off course it doesnt
[01:58] <melkor> Xgates: maybe the easiest would be to uninstall somethings, such as apache/samba after installation.
[01:58] <hmw> sender: encryption stops everyting
[01:58] <Xgates> melkor: sorry what about the LAN?
[01:58] <sender> hmw, lol
[01:58] <melkor> Xgates: use a server version and uninstall things.
[01:58] <JTSmeed> Anyway to force 10.04 to NOT use Nouveau?  I'm getting screwed up colors and brightness with a message "You have a very unusual laptop display; please report it" followed by kernel panic.
[01:58] <dominicdinada> !touchpad | Typos_King
[01:58] <sender> acicula, hmw, why is encryption not standard?
[01:59] <hmw> !ot | sender
[01:59] <Xgates> melkor: ahh, well let me put the mini back in and see what the term says, I'm burning it now
[01:59] <jbuncher> anyone having trouble with gwibber and updating twitter?
[01:59] <melkor> Xgates: or install an older version of the mini iso and upgrade.
[01:59] <Xgates> melkor: ok
[01:59] <melkor> sender: encryption adds overhead.
[01:59] <pavs> very slow Ubuntu on ATI Radeon HD 2400 PRO, had same problem with 9.10, I am getting frustrated after spending hours of googling without finding any solution.
[02:00] <williamdix> i've given up on fixing this install
[02:00] <efst> williamdix: what happened?
[02:01] <RnFstRuckHrd> Okay so, after upgrading from 9.10 to 10.04: My Dell Inspiron 700M won't even boot. shows the Kubuntu splash screen for a moment then goes black and idle. Aparently machines are being blacklisted ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1461029 ) and my Dell Inspiron 530S seemed to upgrade okay but plasma is not working. It boots, and get the startup chime, I can run apps via krunner but cannnot fiugre out how to force plasma
[02:01] <RnFstRuckHrd>  to start. Any thoughts?
[02:01] <Xgates> melkor: ok I'm booting the Lucid mini iso for now
[02:01] <williamdix> the upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 aborted in the middle, following this, machine would no longer startx, and dpkg and apt-get were broken
[02:01] <RnFstRuckHrd> ... on how to start plasma if it does not when the machine boots
[02:02] <williamdix> after a while of trying to fix this, the machine wouldnt boot at all
[02:02] <k0sh> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa where are netbook .img readymade files for installer for 10.4  im looisng my mind trying to make .img from .iso ;(
[02:02] <williamdix> even in recovery mode
[02:02] <efst> williamdix: that sucks
[02:03] <mickster04> kostkon: next to all the other downloads
[02:03] <efst> williamdix: but I doubt I can help you. did you check the md5sum of the iso? maybe the download messed up
[02:03] <mickster04> !download
[02:03] <williamdix> efst, it was an upgrade through the upgrade manager, not a cd
[02:03] <Mathuin> k0sh: UNR doesn't have .img it has .iso now, I was able to build a USB stick with usb-creator and installed UNR successfully.
[02:04] <dominicdinada> !touchpad
[02:04] <Typos_King> ... ahemm
[02:04] <RnFstRuckHrd> HOKAY!!! so aparently my supposedly "seemless" upgrade did not include installing the plasma desktop. Minor detail... :-s
[02:04] <efst> williamdix: hmm. idk then
[02:04] <Typos_King> anyhow, dashing for now
[02:04] <Xgates> melkor: if I type ifconfig I get a not found
[02:05] <Xgates> hmm
[02:05] <beek_> /sbin/ifconfig?
[02:05] <Xgates> k
[02:05] <Mathuin> If anyone's trying to help me with the FakeRaid install, I'm starting over and building the RAID with dmraid before clicking the install icon.
[02:05] <mickster04> '!names
[02:05] <mickster04> !names
[02:05] <k0sh> Mathuin: i dont think i have it at my distro..
[02:05] <k0sh> meh
[02:05] <Xgates> beek_: nope and /usr/bin nothing too
[02:06] <Div_By_Zero> Galera só pra alertar todo mundo, sei que foge um pouco o tema do canal, porém é bom que todos saibam que esta vencendo o prazo para declaração do imposto de renda.
[02:06] <Mathuin> k0sh: sudo apt-get install usb-creator
[02:06] <msmooth> tbh mdadm works better IMO
[02:06] <dominicdinada> Damn it I found a bug already
[02:06] <Mathuin> msmooth: was the mdadm thing to me?
[02:06] <zetheroo> any nagging issues in Lucid?
[02:06] <msmooth> ya
[02:06] <k0sh> Mathuin: im on arch-linux :)
[02:06] <Mathuin> msmooth: I've never used mdadm, any pointers?
[02:06] <Mathuin> k0sh: sucky. :-(
[02:06] <msmooth> super easy
[02:06] <RnFstRuckHrd> what is the command to see what distro you have?
[02:07] <ennui> any tips?trying to reinstall chromium-browser using apt-get remove --purge  and then reinstalling but I still remembers my history and bookmarks.  The video stopped working after installoing mplayer (which I then uninstalled) and i'm trying to get it back ;(
[02:07] <msmooth> i have a fakeraid controller in on of my machines and find that the nux soft raid is better
[02:07] <markatto> soft raid is definitely better than fakeraid
[02:07] <Mathuin> I have the intel matrix one, it's a little old but worked well in windows.
[02:07] <zetheroo> any reasons not to upgrade to Lucid?
[02:07] <studentz> RnFstRuckHrd   uname -a
[02:07] <h00k> zetheroo: check the release notes to make sure :)
[02:08] <Mathuin> ... mdadm install requires postfix?! :-)
[02:08] <markatto> the only reason to use fake raid is if you need to work with a crappy operating system that can't handle soft raid
[02:08] <mattgyver> Anyone else have any issues with the screen not unlocking with the users password from standby?
[02:08] <mweijts> studentz: thanks for helping , screen flickers on Ati Radeon 3100 are gone
[02:08] <studentz> mweijts I'm glad :)
[02:08] <RnFstRuckHrd> studentz - only shows kernel info though. I want to see that I have actually upgraded to 10.04
[02:09] <chrometiger> mattgyver: with Karmic ubuntu "wont" come out of standby for me period
[02:09] <techtronic1> heard that 10.04 would support the ipod touch out of the box, is this still the case how do i use it, cant see it in rythembox
[02:09] <hmw> RnFstRuckHrd: i dont know the shell command, but you will find it in the help ( System / Help and Support )
[02:09] <emergion> Hello. I just intalled 10.04 and my blue-tooth keyboard support is gone this seems like it will be a pretty big issue for people with blue-tooth hardware
[02:09] <RnFstRuckHrd> hrnw - TY
[02:09] <mattgyver> chrometiger, funny you mention that I had that exact problem and disabled standby, however after upgrading today it set itself up.
[02:09] <studentz> RnFstRuckHrd it say #33
[02:09] <emergion> lucky I am a nerd and had a spare keyboard but what about everyone else?
[02:10] <RnFstRuckHrd> studentz - huh?
[02:10] <sunzoje_> how to upgrade from 10.04 beta to final
[02:10] <hmw> sunzoje_: simply update your system.
[02:10] <DeadmanIncJS> anybody finally update to 10.04?
[02:10] <DeadmanIncJS> (im still seeding--to be nice!)
[02:10] <techtronic1> sunzoje_: is it not just update-manager -d
[02:10] <vocx> emergion, I don't understand how people can only use a bluetooth device for a component as critical as the keyboard.
[02:10] <thedead91> hi guys...i'm trying to plan an application and i set cronotab's file in that way: 04 03 * * * /usr/bin/firefox...why it doesn't work?
[02:11] <emergion> sunzoje_, just don't do it if you have a blue tooth keyboard :)
[02:11] <emergion> vocx, hey if you guys want this to be a success its not about what you think people should be like
[02:11] <sunzoje_> it says no release found while sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[02:12] <e1hn4nd3r> sunzoje_: What version are you on now?
[02:12] <vocx> emergion, even people doing fresh installs! It's like they want to use their fancy hardware even before there are drivers! Insane.
[02:12] <emergion> Its about what people ARE like and my grandpa who is in his eighties runs ubuntu but you could excuse him for thinking owning a nice blue tooth keyboard would be allowed. Even though he doesnt
[02:12] <sunzoje_> installed 10.04 beta and updated two or three days ago
[02:12] <emergion> vocx, If there is no drivers why release it?
[02:12] <jhambo> Is my system supposed to be usable during distribution upgrade?  because it's not...
[02:12] <techtronic1> any1 know if 10.04 supports the ipod touch out of the box like early reports suggested a few months ago
[02:12] <bsmith093> how do i update from jaunty tom luciod
[02:13] <bsmith093> pardon my typos jaunty to lucid?
[02:13] <gogeta> oh no lucid is out
[02:13] <vampress> hi all. Very new to ubuntu, I installed 10.04 beta last night. Do I really need to install the official release, is it that different?
[02:13] <vocx> bmccarthy, upgrade to the next version, and then to the next.
[02:13] <techtronic1> bsmith093: press alt+F2, then use update-manager -d
[02:13] <solar_george> bsmith093: via the other releases  inbetween
[02:13] <msmooth> just install all the updates and its the finak release
[02:13] <msmooth> final*
[02:13] <gogeta> vampress: no its the same it updates to final
[02:14] <vocx> vampress, the package manager will take care to install the remaining packages, so your distribution will be the final release.
[02:14] <emergion> vocx, it is once again because people are not used to having to wait to install a new release till it works unless they run XP I am just saying its no good if people want this thing to be easier to use then windows
[02:14] <vampress> can I do that from terminal?
[02:14] <benzap> Hello
[02:14] <emergion> You could imagine peoples frustrations who have updated and cannot now login to there machine to get onto Google to even help them?
[02:14] <gogeta> emergion: hey us older users knoe better
[02:14] <josephseraos> Ubuntu 10.04 is beautiful
[02:15] <benzap> i just installed ubuntu 10.04, and it won't recognize my second monitor correctly
[02:15] <techtronic1> any1 know how to move close, min, max buttons from left to right?