[12:15] <stdin> sleepy495: it has a "Junk" folder for spam, it puts emails it thinks is spam in there, and it "learns" too, so yeah
[12:15] <sleepy495> ok, thanks
[12:15] <stdin> np
[12:20] <Murchadh> ls
[12:27] <MidMark> how can I sync removable device?
[12:27] <MidMark> !sync
[12:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <k4071k_b0073r> hey anyone here ever play games on pogo.com?
[12:28] <stdin> !rcync
[12:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rcync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <stdin> !rsync
[12:28] <k4071k_b0073r> cause while under kubuntu i cant seem to load any of the rooms on pogo
[12:28] <ubotu> rsync: fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.8-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 237 kB, installed size 472 kB
[12:28] <stdin> MidMark: maybe that ^
[12:30] <MidMark> stdin: my problem is I want to put sync for all my removable devices until the bug in Edgy is fixed
[12:30] <MidMark> I have to change my fstab?
[12:30] <k4071k_b0073r> could it be something to do with java?
[12:31] <stdin> MidMark: you mean add it to the mount options?
[12:31] <stdin> k4071k_b0073r: I'll try and check
[12:32] <MidMark> stdin: yes, appending it just prevent to cache data?
[12:33] <k4071k_b0073r> thank you i dont know what the deal is man....just seems that i can login to pogo but i cant join any rooms
[12:34] <stdin> MidMark: you have to mount it manually, with pmount sync /dev/sda
[12:35] <MidMark> so I cannot put it in fstab for automatic mount?
[12:36] <stdin> MidMark: no, because removable devices aren't in fstab
[12:37] <stdin> k4071k_b0073r: do you have java installed ?
[12:37] <MidMark> stdin: yes, I have to change an udev rule?
[12:37] <fdoving> MidMark: i belive it's a hal policy.
[12:37] <stdin> MidMark: no, udev has nothing to do with mounting
[12:37] <k4071k_b0073r> hell i dont know
[12:38] <k4071k_b0073r> i just installed kubuntu
[12:38] <MidMark> fdoving: sync can help to prevent data loss for removable device?
[12:38] <k4071k_b0073r> show i install a jave environment to
[12:38] <stdin> k4071k_b0073r: then, you don't
[12:38] <k4071k_b0073r> ok so ill try to install java now
[12:39] <fdoving> MidMark: yes, it will also write the device to death fast. but that's your choice. /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi
[12:39] <fdoving> that's where it is in feisty, atleast.
[12:39] <fdoving> line 51.
[12:40] <fdoving> MidMark: change 'false' to 'true'.. and see if that helps.
[12:40] <MidMark> fdoving: I'm reading... but I haven't understood why it kills removable devices
[12:41] <fdoving> MidMark: there is a comment with a link to a linux-kernel mailinglist post.
[12:42] <MidMark> fdoving: I was reading it before you pointed out me, I try to understand better...
[12:42] <fdoving> MidMark: good, then you'll figure it out from here.. i need to go to bed.
[12:42] <fdoving> nite all.
[12:43] <gnomefreak> nite fdoving
[12:43] <rysiek|pl> #wifi
[12:43] <stdin> night
[12:43] <rysiek|pl> argh, sorry
[12:43] <MidMark> goodnoght
[12:43] <fdoving> nite gnomefreak.
[12:43] <fdoving> and midmark, stdin and all.
[12:43] <rysiek|pl> guys, anybody here uses wpa_supplicant?
[12:43] <MementoMori> hi all
[12:44] <MidMark> rysiek|pl: tried, but there are no good software to configure it
[12:44] <rysiek|pl> MidMark: yeah, I'm fighting with the config file right now
[12:44] <rysiek|pl> MidMark: or do you know any good software that will allow me to use WPA with EAP-TLS authentication?
[12:45] <MementoMori> I just installed kubuntu 6.10 i386 on my laptop and everything went fine. What I should install in order to change cpu speed on the fly?
[12:45] <MidMark> rysiek|pl: I don't... sorry, they are all buggy/incomplete
[12:46] <MementoMori> rysiek|pl: did you already tried knetworkmanager?
[12:46] <MidMark> knetworkmanager sucks
[12:46] <MementoMori> lol
[12:46] <gnomefreak> !wpa
[12:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:46] <MidMark> !knetwrokmanager
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knetwrokmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <MidMark> !knetworkmanager
[12:46] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 213 kB, installed size 1448 kB
[12:46] <rysiek|pl> MementoMori: will knetworkmanager allow me to use EAP-TLS?
[12:47] <rysiek|pl> ok, I'll give it a go
[12:47] <MidMark> rysiek|pl: for me knm doesn't detects any ssid don't know why
[12:47] <MidMark> but you can try
[12:47] <MementoMori> rysiek|pl: I dont remenber..... but I found it a nice software
[12:48] <MementoMori> MidMark: maybe your router/ap doesnt broadcast any ssid
[12:48] <MementoMori> !cou speed
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cou speed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <MementoMori> !cpu speed
[12:48] <ubotu> cpu: a console based LDAP user management tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-8 (edgy), package size 137 kB, installed size 432 kB
[12:48] <gator> hey is there any other messenger's like gaim and kopete
[12:49] <sonicGB> gator aMSN is a good MSN clone (only does msn tho)
[12:49] <gator> I need like for all of them.
[12:49] <gator> Gaim is ok..but there are some bugs in it.
[12:49] <sonicGB> for that, I think that kopete is the best
[12:49] <MidMark> MementoMori: I don't want to broadcast ssid, but I don't know how to tell to knm that is the right behaviour
[12:49] <gator> kopete is hard on the ram.
[12:50] <sonicGB> ram is cheap :-) hehe
[12:50] <gator> yes..but when ur 15..its nto
[12:50] <gator> not.
[12:50] <cntb> please join kubuntu torrent download http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en
[12:50] <stdin> !sim
[12:50] <ubotu> sim: Simple Instant Messenger (KDE). In component universe, is extra. Version 0.9.4-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 3335 kB, installed size 9304 kB
[12:50] <_sledge_> Does anybody have successfully burned a CD with Kubuntu at all?
[12:50] <gator> yes.
[12:51] <stdin> _sledge_: yes, many times
[12:51] <gator> 1
[12:51] <gator> Out of 1.
[12:51] <MementoMori> !kpowermanager
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kpowermanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <cloakable> _sledge_: Yep, I have a perfect 6.10 cd
[12:51] <_sledge_> I've two machines with different dvd burners and I get the same effin' error message all the time.
[12:51] <stdin> _sledge_: what's the error you get?
[12:51] <MementoMori> _sledge_: try changing cds
[12:51] <gator> Its not that hard to burn a cd.
[12:52] <gator> Its more of common sense.
[12:52] <frank_> I'm getting this build error while trying to build cinelerra: audioesound.o: In function `AudioESound::open_input()':/home/frank/cinelerra-temp/hvirtual/cinelerra/audioesound.C:80: undefined reference to `esd_open_sound'
[12:52] <frank_> any ideas?
[12:52] <sonicGB> hmmm, sim looks good
[12:52] <stdin> sim's quite nice, yeah
[12:53] <cntb> stdin: important question !! for everyone who wants to make transition to linux
[12:53] <sonicGB> frank_: that can be tough to troubleshoot, sometimes happens when you have version mismatches in different packages
[12:53] <stdin> frank_: why not use the version in the ubuntu repositories?
[12:54] <sonicGB> for eg if cinelerra requires something_else 0.12 and you've only got 0.11, etc...
[12:54] <stdin> cntb: what?
[12:54] <sonicGB> !ask | cntb
[12:54] <ubotu> cntb: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:54] <frank_> stdin: sonicGB: cinelerra is not in the repos. and the ubuntu deb on the cinelerra webstite doesn't seem to work eithet
[12:55] <stdin> ahh
[12:55] <cntb> stdin I Say and other are worried by same question
[12:55] <stdin> frank_: is that from http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu ?
[12:55] <cntb> using burner at least as in nero
[12:56] <stdin> cntb: nero is c**p :p , i use k3b
[12:56] <frank_> stdin: not exactly. there is another repository for cinelerra for dapper
[12:56] <cntb> sonicGB:  pls calm down
[12:56] <_sledge_> stdin: Sense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x0
[12:56] <_sledge_> Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) error refers to command part, bit ptr 0 (not valid) field ptr 0
[12:56] <sonicGB> cntb: what?
[12:56] <MementoMori> the "power manager" icon in the tray bar show me battery charge status and cpu speed but I cant change it from this program......
[12:56] <_sledge_> Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
[12:57] <MementoMori> what I'd try?
[12:57] <cntb> and dont you flame me sonicGB I am here to help and be helped
[12:58] <_sledge_> The funny thing is: growisofs seems to burn, but craps out with a "Can't close session" error, while mkisofs & dvdrecord just bail immediately.
[12:58] <rysiek|pl> MementoMori: knetworkmanager does not discover my wireless iface (rausb0)
[12:58] <rysiek|pl> MementoMori: any ideas? I am totally new to this app
[12:58] <sonicGB> cntb: I'm sorry if you thought you were being flamed. I don't think that i've flamed anyone, it certainly wasn't my attempt.
[12:58] <cntb> ok
[12:58] <sonicGB> s/attempt/intent/;
[12:58] <sleepy495> !xgl
[12:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:59] <sonicGB> and with that, I think that's quite enough ubuntutude for me for one day! I'm off. Have a great day folks! :-)
[12:59] <_sledge_> !dvdr
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <flaccid> why are segfaults becoming common with apt-get ??
[12:59] <stdin> _sledge_: what's the error you get?
[12:59] <_sledge_> stdin: scroll up
[01:00] <sonicGB> frank_: btw, cinelerra looks nice, I'm gonna have a go at building that today. If you're still stuck with it, come looking for me later, hopefully I'll have sorted it!
[01:00] <MementoMori> rysiek|pl: http://passivemode.net/updates/2006/5/29/linksys-wusb54gc-linux.html
[01:00] <rysiek|pl> MementoMori: ah, thanks
[01:00] <stdin> _sledge_: what application is that from, k3b?
[01:01] <andre> hello all
[01:01] <_sledge_> stdin: dvdrecord
[01:02] <feprss> Hello all
[01:02] <andre> hey feprss
[01:02] <rysiek|pl> MementoMori: there's nothing there, I have the driver installed and compiled, I also recompiled wpa_supplicant so that it supports the driver, I am able do discover some networks (including my own) with the Wireless Assistant, but KNetworkManager does not see my net iface
[01:03] <feprss> why in kconsole arrow keys aren't working? anyone that can help me?
[01:03] <stdin> _sledge_: I don't know what that error is
[01:03] <stdin> sorry
[01:03] <feprss> when I use up arrow it writes an A, left arrob it writes a B, etc
[01:03] <stdin> _sledge_: try asking in #ubuntu or ##linux
[01:05] <rysiek|pl> anyways, network manager is not an option here, my network card driver does not support the wext
[01:09] <_sledge_> oh lol, growisofs worked...
[01:09] <_sledge_> habeeb it
[01:11] <cntb> please join kubuntu torrent download http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en ! ty already joined guys
[01:11] <stdin> cntb: if you want to advertise something, use #kubuntu-offtopic , this is a support channel
[01:12] <stdin> * please :)
[01:12] <BTR> Hi, is there any app that reminds of autocad?
[01:12] <feprss> wireless assistant from kubuntu doesn't support WPA?
[01:13] <miguel> hola
[01:13] <miguel> k tal?
[01:13] <stdin> feprss: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/WifiDocs/KubuntuWPAHowTo
[01:14] <feprss> BTR http://alts.homelinux.net/search.php?type=priv&q=autocad
[01:14] <gesslar> i'm trying to create a .deb file for a qt program. i think i've got the handle on the "no configure" thing, but i seem to be having this problem that my actual binary isn't making it into the .deb file
[01:15] <gesslar> i'm following these instructions: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Deb_Guide
[01:15] <feprss> yes stdin, but isn't good for novice users :/
[01:15] <feprss> I'm looking for something as in gnome or in wxp
[01:15] <stdin> feprss: I don't use wireless, so that's the only guide i know of
[01:15] <feprss> all right, thanks :)
[01:16] <gesslar> which, btw, needs fixing. i'll try to find someone to email about the problems with the guide
[01:16] <BTR> thanks feprss!
[01:16] <Rorshach> what's that guide, stdin? I'm having difficulty with connecting through my wireless card.
[01:17] <stdin> Rorshach: wireless help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs WPA help https://wiki.kubuntu.org/WifiDocs/KubuntuWPAHowTo
[01:17] <nikola> hi
[01:17] <nikola> i STILL dont know how to install kbfx themes -_-
[01:17] <nikola> its really mean to me :(
[01:17] <nikola> i dont have the configuration software
[01:18] <stdin> gesslar: ask in #ubuntu-doc
[01:18] <gesslar> thanks stdin
[01:18] <stdin> :)
[01:18] <Rorshach> Ironically, I'm thinking everything is working as it should, and is most likely a config problem, as I can detect the wireless networks around me, I just can't connect to mine.
[01:18] <gesslar> wait, is that for the help with building the deb or the reporting of the problems with the docs, stdin?
[01:19] <feprss> oh stdin, that guide looks well, the only requisite is knetworkmanager
[01:19] <feprss> knetworkmanager is myy answer, thanks :)
[01:19] <stdin> gesslar: the docs, wait a sec for the deb help :p
[01:19] <nikola> how do i quit an app from the konsole?
[01:19] <stdin> gesslar: about the deb package, are you going to install it yourself too?
[01:19] <gesslar> gesslar: all right :p
[01:19] <stdin> nikola: Ctrl-C
[01:19] <rysiek|pl> MementoMori: if you ever happen to be in Warsaw, drop me a line and you'll get yourself a cold beer and a decent guide to the city. one of the links you gave me helped. :D JID: rysiek[at] rysiek.ath.cx
[01:19] <gesslar> stdin: yes, ideally.
[01:20] <stdin> gesslar: what type of app is it, source code (with make et all) or just a gui thing?
[01:21] <gesslar> stdin: the app is a qt gui application, it's not a source distribution.
[01:21] <gesslar> i hope i answered that right
[01:21] <gesslar> lol
[01:21] <stdin> gesslar: ahh, ok, on to my next question then :p what part of the guide you posted isn't working ?
[01:22] <MementoMori> rysiek|pl: am happy to read this...... But it's quite difficult I'll ever be in warsaw... I'll drink a cold beer thinking of you here in Italy
[01:22] <rysiek|pl> MementoMori: anyways - thanks a bunch, and cheers :)
[01:22] <gesslar> stdin: the guide is fine, except for the part called "File:file rules" where the bottom of the scrollbox shows that they meant for some of the content to be outside of the scroll box to be instructions, not part of the file info itself
[01:23] <gesslar> stdin: that, i'll bring up to the -doc people
[01:23] <MementoMori> here is late and tomorrow is a working day........ 'nite everybody
[01:23] <gesslar> stdin: other than that, i war largely successful in building my .deb file and it installs just fine, just...well, my binary isn't in the .deb when i check the package information
[01:23] <gesslar> war = was
[01:25] <stdin> gesslar: looks like everything from "</nowiki}}" on isn't in the file, or do you know that already?
[01:25] <gesslar> stdin: and the instructions don't really go into what they mean by "add installation commands". no examples, or anything, so i'm unsure.
[01:25] <gesslar> yes
[01:25] <gesslar> i figured that out :)
[01:26] <gesslar> that's what i was going to report to the maintainer
[01:27] <stdin> gesslar: ahh, so you want to report that to this guy: http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=27599
[01:27] <stdin> gesslar: and you can build the deb in a "hackish" way, if the guide isn't working
[01:28] <gesslar> actually, i just had some inspiration as to why it might not be working
[01:28] <stdin> gesslar: but it's not exactly easy
[01:28] <stdin> gesslar: what's the inspiration? help me, help you :p
[01:29] <gesslar> well, in my .pro file i tell it: DESTDIR = bin
[01:29] <gesslar> so the binary file doesn't end up in the main directory when it compiles
[01:29] <gesslar> so maybe the deb maker thing isn't FINDING the binary
[01:29] <gesslar> so it has nothing to put in the .deb
[01:29] <gesslar> i'm changing it to leave the binary in the main directory
[01:31] <stdin> humm
[01:31] <stdin> in "File:file rules" gesslar ?
[01:32] <gesslar> darnit
[01:32] <gesslar> it didn't find it, still
[01:32] <gesslar> ok?
[01:32] <gesslar> i have rules open
[01:32] <stdin> in the guide, it on line 45
[01:32] <gesslar> stdin: oh my goodness
[01:33] <gesslar> stdin: i completely missed that
[01:33] <stdin> heh :p
[01:33] <gesslar> stdin: oh, but that line's already in my rules file
[01:33] <stdin> still, you may need it in that file too
[01:33] <draik> !yakuake
[01:33] <ubotu> yakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB
[01:34] <gesslar> love yakuake
[01:34] <draik> I do too
[01:34] <draik> but I can't seem to find it in the repos for dapper
[01:34] <stdin> draik: you need to enable universe
[01:34] <stdin> !universe | draik
[01:34] <ubotu> draik: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:34] <gesslar> stdin: it's in that file
[01:35] <draik> I just updated my sources list from source-o-matic
[01:35] <draik> I know about the repos, I just don't know why I wasn't able to find it
[01:35] <stdin> draik: did you tick the box with "Community maintained" in it?
[01:35] <draik> I had everything enabled
[01:35] <draik> ???
[01:35] <draik> There was only the one that asked if you wanted src
[01:36] <stdin> draik: that's not it, post your sources.list on pastebin
[01:36] <stdin> !pastebin
[01:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:37] <draik> http://pastebin.com/853925
[01:37] <draik> stdin:
[01:37] <draik> There was my list
[01:38] <draik> stdin: http://pastebin.com/853925
[01:38] <stdin> ok
[01:38] <draik> list to my laptop anyway
[01:39] <stdin> draik: can you see it in adept?
[01:39] <draik> stdin: I don't use adept
[01:39] <draik> I just updated the file and used konsole
[01:39] <stdin> gesslar: maybe follow another guide, that one seems not to be very good
[01:39] <rysiek|pl> cu all, gtg
[01:40] <gesslar> stdin: do you know of any other?
[01:40] <stdin> draik: did you run "sudo apt-get update" after you changed the file?
[01:40] <draik> stdin: I'm currently running     sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[01:40] <stdin> gesslar: i'm googleing now :p
[01:40] <draik> stdin: yup
[01:40] <draik> I'm on the last update
[01:40] <draik> err.. upgrade
[01:41] <stdin> draik: what dose "apt-cache search yakuake" show ?
[01:41] <draik> 1sec
[01:41] <draik> finishing up the upgrade
[01:41] <beels15> german
[01:41] <beels15> deutsch
[01:42] <stdin> !de
[01:42] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:42] <draik> stdin: got it!
[01:42] <gesslar> !fr
[01:42] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:42] <thompa> anybody know hot to make kmpalyer open bbc radio?
[01:42] <stdin> draik: :)
[01:43] <stdin> gesslar: maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToBuildDebianPackagesFromScratch
[01:43] <thompa> If I could avoid real player somehow...
[01:43] <stdin> thompa: have you got w32codecs ?
[01:43] <thompa> im on kubuntu64
[01:43] <thompa> i dont think it will work
[01:44] <draik> hmmm
[01:44] <draik> still not on my K menu
[01:44] <gesslar> stdin: thanks!
[01:44] <thompa> i think there is a way for mplayer using codecs at hand or something
[01:44] <thompa> but mplayer wont install
[01:44] <draik> CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[01:44] <manom> hi everybody, do you know where can i get help about compiling kdebluetooth from svn trunk?
[01:45] <lupine_85> manom: whoever manages the svn trunk will provide compilation instruction
[01:45] <lupine_85> ...s
[01:45] <thompa> nevermind mplayer is installed it seems
[01:45] <stdin> thompa: I'm not sure you can do it then, short of installing a basic system in a chroot
[01:45] <manom> :) thanks
[01:46] <stdin> draik: try logging out, and back in
[01:46] <thompa> stdin: the bbc radio site will work without real player im sure, if not ill chroot whatever that is
[01:46] <draik> Just did
[01:46] <draik> CTRL ALT BACKSPACE
[01:46] <draik> I got it back
[01:47] <stdin> !chroot
[01:47] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[01:47] <stdin> thompa: ^^
[01:49] <gesslar> stdin: i figured it out! :)
[01:49] <gesslar> stdin: thanks tonnes :)
[01:49] <stdin> gesslar: yay :D
[01:49] <jpr_> hello
[01:49] <stdin> hi
[01:50] <jpr_> my first time using IRC
[01:50] <stdin> well welcome to the #kubuntu channel :)
[01:50] <jpr_> Thanks
[01:50] <draik> Welcome to #kubuntu
[01:51] <nikola> hi
[01:51] <nikola> afk
[01:51] <jpr_> Hello
[01:51] <draik> What can we do for you today jpr_
[01:51] <draik> ?
[01:52] <jpr_> I've installed ubuntu linux on one of my machines and i'm just messing around with it, it's great
[01:54] <draik> If you need help, this would be the place
[01:54] <jpr_> I am having a problem with ktorrent
[01:55] <draik> ok
[01:55] <draik> simple questions first...
[01:55] <draik> Are you on a router?
[01:55] <jpr_> I can download one torrent no problem, but if i try to download a second i get an error
[01:55] <jpr_> yes i'm on a router
[01:56] <stdin> what's the error you get?
[01:56] <draik> did you port forward?
[01:56] <draik> actually, nevermind
[01:56] <jpr_> don't know about port forwarding
[01:56] <draik> what type of router do you have?
[01:56] <draik> actually, hold on
[01:57] <draik> I know of a place that has the manual for every router for port forwarding
[01:57] <jpr_> it just says that there was a problem opening the torrent, and to try saving it first
[01:57] <draik> hmmm
[01:57] <stian__> meeh...
[01:58] <Calmcacil> this is mean
[01:58] <jpr_> is it port forwarding thats the problem?
[01:58] <draik> could be
[01:58] <draik> let me find the manual
[01:58] <Calmcacil> cant get wlan working -_-
[01:58] <stdin> jpr_: ahh, so try downloading the .torrent file to your desktop, then opening it in ktorrent
[01:58] <jpr_> I never had a problem like this on the other operating system
[01:58] <stdin> !wifi | Calmcacil
[01:58] <ubotu> Calmcacil: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:58] <sleepy495> is there a web site or tutorial on installing xgl/compiz for dapper? most sites just mention stuff for gnome and edgy..
[01:58] <draik> jpr_: http://portforward.com/
[02:00] <jpr_> thanks
[02:00] <jpr_> I'll have a look at it
[02:00] <draik> It will help you with your specific router and firewall settings
[02:01] <Calmcacil> need to get wlan up with wpa x3
[02:01] <pcnerd37> Hello.  I need some help
[02:01] <stdin> Calmcacil: wireless help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs WPA help https://wiki.kubuntu.org/WifiDocs/KubuntuWPAHowTo
[02:01] <jpr_> Why does it allow me to download the first file without any problem?
[02:01] <Calmcacil> im looking at it ;p
[02:02] <stdin> Calmcacil: 2nd link is specifically for WPA
[02:02] <draik> no clue
[02:02] <draik> jpr_: no clue
[02:03] <jpr_> ok draik thanks for your help
[02:03] <pcnerd37> I have just installed the latest version of Kubuntu on my thinkpad and Im having some wireless issues.  When I try to use the wireless assistant to get on a WEP encrypted network, the connection always fails.  I have tried this on several wireless networks with no luck.  Can anybody tell me why this is happening and how i can fix it?
[02:03] <flaccid> pcnerd37: try knetworkmanager
[02:03] <draik> jpr_: no problem
[02:04] <pcnerd37> ok, thanks
[02:04] <pcnerd37> will that work for WPA networks too?
[02:05] <flaccid> yep sure will
[02:05] <flaccid> mind you the devs forgot that now using generic kernel, ipw and other drivers won't be available
[02:05] <pcnerd37> great
[02:05] <flaccid> so hopefully your card is fine or uses wext
[02:06] <pcnerd37> i hope so too
[02:06] <jlh_> hello
[02:07] <stdin> hi
[02:07] <jlh_> Thsi is my first time using this app
[02:08] <jpr_> same here
[02:08] <stdin> then welcome to #kubuntu
[02:08] <jlh_> I have not been to this IRC channel before.
[02:08] <jlh_> I'm a long time Debian user.
[02:08] <stdin> #kubuntu is the support channel for Kubuntu
[02:08] <jlh_> EDGY
[02:08] <stdin> <-- feisty :)
[02:09] <Seeker`> <--- windows XP
[02:09] <stdin> BOO! :p
[02:09] <jlh_> seeker are you using Mirc
[02:09] <stdin> how's kqemu going Seeker` ?
[02:10] <BluesKaj> stdin, is feisty stable in your opinion ?
[02:10] <stdin> BluesKaj: it's been quite stable, for me (TM)
[02:10] <stdin> Uptime: 14 days, 10 hours and 46 minutes
[02:11] <stian__> grrr
[02:11] <stian__> this is so anoying
[02:11] <jlh_> Your not running it as a server are you?
[02:11] <Calmcacil> when i join a WPA network
[02:11] <Calmcacil> wlan
[02:11] <Calmcacil> my computer freezes up
[02:11] <stdin> BluesKaj: but it's not considered stable, it's still under development
[02:11] <stdin> jlh_: nope, well only samba and ssh
[02:11] <Calmcacil> i am using ndiswrapper
[02:11] <Seeker`> jlh_: Yes, I am using MIRC
[02:12] <BluesKaj> yeah i'm aware of that , simply curious , stdin :)
[02:12] <Calmcacil> anyone have any ideas
[02:12] <jlh_> That's a cool program. I used it for about 12 yrs
[02:12] <stdin> BluesKaj: I've got edgy on another partition, just in case, but I haven't had to use it so fat
[02:12] <Seeker`> stdin: I've got it running. I am attempting to install XP with it so I have even less reasons to boot in windows. but it keeps on stopping at 35% installed
[02:12] <stdin> s/fat/far/
[02:13] <stdin> Seeker`: I remember trying to install XP in qemu, too for ever, so I gave up and used vmware
[02:13] <jlh_> VMware rocks
[02:14] <Calmcacil> grr
[02:14] <Calmcacil> anoying crap
[02:14] <stdin> I use qemu where I can
[02:14] <jlh_> Just remember there are great commercial apps out there.
[02:14] <Seeker`> oooh...just made it to 37%
[02:14] <jpiccolo> whats the app that shows weather on your desktop
[02:14] <jlh_> I never had a sucessful load using Qemu
[02:14] <stdin> Seeker`: just leave it for a few hours, and hope it don't crash :p
[02:15] <jlh_> kweather
[02:15] <stdin> jlh_: you can even open vmware images in qemu :)
[02:15] <Seeker`> thats what i'm thiking of doing
[02:15] <Calmcacil> wpa kinda sucks
[02:15] <BluesKaj> i used GParted to setup and resize the Windows NTFS and Edgy ext partitions ...worked well as a live cd for me
[02:15] <Seeker`> the problem is that my desktop is very noisy, so i may not be able to get much sleep
[02:15] <jlh_> No, Just use Vmware and create a vmware image.
[02:16] <jlh_> vmware is free. Check out the website.
[02:16] <BluesKaj> VMWare, bah humbug ! :)
[02:16] <jlh_> It works
[02:16] <stdin> jlh_: use qemu to create a vmware image, and qemu is free (really free GPL)
[02:16] <BluesKaj> I don't see the point of it
[02:16] <jlh_> Do you work in IT
[02:16] <jlh_> ?
[02:17] <stdin> or just use XEN :p
[02:17] <jlh_> You have to learn something other than opensource apps.
[02:18] <stdin> jlh_: yeah, but when you can use oss, you should :p
[02:18] <jlh_> Corporate networks are not built entirely on opensource
[02:18] <stdin> all the computers I work on use GNU/Linux
[02:18] <Seeker`> jlh_: But when at home you can use as much (or as little) oss as you like
[02:19] <jlh_> You work in a corporate environment?
[02:19] <BluesKaj> I just logon to windows (if I really need to), which becoming less and less frequent as time goes by. :)
[02:19] <Seeker`> jlh_: Yep
[02:19] <jlh_> how many users?
[02:19] <jlh_> Hard to believe that all computers are oss top to bottom...
[02:20] <Seeker`> in the company i work for? probably a couple of thousand. I dont work in the IT department, I work in R&D
[02:20] <Seeker`> All of the computers I use for anything other than checking email run linux
[02:20] <jlh_> That's different
[02:21] <BluesKaj> most corporations hire windows IT admin guys : hence the prevalence of windows where there is no need for it
[02:21] <jlh_> When you send people out the field, they will have to connect and use applications that interface with the dealer location.
[02:21] <K`zan> Am I doing something wrong or is wine not a ubuntu package?
[02:22] <stdin> !wine
[02:22] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:22] <stdin> !info wine
[02:22] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[02:22] <stdin> K`zan: it is an ubuntu package, follow that guide
[02:23] <stdin> s/is/has/
[02:23] <Seeker`> jlh_: It is possible to use open source software in most (if not all) situations
[02:23] <soulrider> hi everyone
[02:24] <jlh_> Who is going to pay to move, train and rewrite applications
[02:25] <jlh_> This is why makes more sense to attack small emerging companies
[02:25] <Seeker`> jlh_: One of the problems at the moment is that people are trained to use windows from the beginning, not use computer or generic applications
[02:25] <jlh_> influence Linux use
[02:25] <jlh_> You don't understand what I'm saying.
[02:26] <K`zan> stdin: Must have something screwy here, have the universe repository but all I get is libwine, libwine-dev and winefish.  Not sure what is going on here...
[02:26] <flaccid> i think linux needs 5 more years to be up there
[02:26] <flaccid> the interoperability just isn't there yet
[02:26] <jlh_> When I move a fileshare to a new location without research, I can break many applications.
[02:27] <stdin> K`zan: huh, how did you search for it?
[02:27] <jlh_> Now think of changing a whole infrastructure.
[02:27] <K`zan> adept just entered "wine"
[02:27] <K`zan> stdin: used adept just entered "wine"
[02:27] <jlh_> Linux needs an administration tool
[02:28] <Seeker`> i'm not saying that it should be used everywhere now
[02:28] <flaccid> jlh_: it has lots already doesn't?
[02:28] <jlh_> with plugins to manage
[02:28] <stdin> K`zan: open konsole, and type in "apt-cache search wine" and see if it's shown there
[02:28] <Seeker`> but given time it definately can be used in a much larger share of the market
[02:28] <stdin> jlh_: look at webmin
[02:29] <flaccid> webmin is shite
[02:29] <jlh_> I know what webmin is.
[02:29] <K`zan> stdin: thanks, trying that now.
[02:29] <flaccid> if you mean a control panel. none free exist that are any good
[02:29] <jlh_> I hear ya
[02:29] <stdin> yes, but that's what he was describing, and the only one I know of like that
[02:29] <jlh_> thats what I'm talking about.
[02:29] <flaccid> oh
[02:29] <flaccid> i'm writing one
[02:29] <flaccid> but it won't be GPL
[02:30] <flaccid> and its going to take me probaly 2 years to finish
[02:30] <cloakable> Oh? Why?
[02:30] <jlh_> We can't lead if we are emulating Windows way of doing things
[02:30] <flaccid> but yes i'm doing this because none free exist that are any good
[02:30] <K`zan> stdin: same results with addition of tellico stuff :-/.
[02:30] <flaccid> i don't think windows has much to do with CPs :)
[02:30] <jlh_> SAmba is nice but we are always trying to be compatable with MS AD
[02:31] <stdin> K`zan: what version of kubuntu are you on? and what architecture?
[02:31] <flaccid> we've been compatible with ms ad for a number of years now with samba
[02:31] <K`zan> edgy, amd64
[02:31] <K`zan> stdin:  edgy, amd64
[02:31] <jlh_> We need to be inovative.
[02:32] <flaccid> we are innovative. just lacks a lot of other stuff
[02:32] <jlh_> Do we really need 10,000 linux distros?
[02:32] <flaccid> no
[02:32] <flaccid> but we need one that beats windows in all aspects
[02:32] <jlh_> WE have no standard
[02:32] <flaccid> not one does that yet
[02:32] <K`zan> jlh_: I don't think so but with the pissing matches that go on, I can't see how that can be avoided...
[02:32] <jlh_> I hear ya
[02:32] <superkirbyartist>  Any ideas for lightweight sound recorder?
[02:33] <jlh_> That's the biggest dissapointment about Linux, to me.
[02:33] <flaccid> its too late to unify *nix. but its not too late to improve what is available
[02:33] <flaccid> superkirbyartist: audacity might be light enough
[02:33] <K`zan> jlh_: if half that energy went into getting stuff done in a VERY few distros, we'd have left m$ in the dust a good while back :-(.
[02:33] <stdin> K`zan: don't think there is a amd64 package for wine
[02:33] <superkirbyartist> flaccid:  Thank you!
[02:33] <jlh_> When I say standardization, I hear your attacking Oss
[02:33] <flaccid> my dislike of linux is distros not living up to name and not satisfying the person trying to come from windows
[02:34] <K`zan> stdin: OK thanks, the amount of stuff that won't run under amd64 (linux and windoz) is staggering :-(.  THanks for the help, much appreciated.
[02:34] <stdin> K`zan: is there any reason you need to run 64bit ?
[02:34] <flaccid> an out-of-the-box emphasis needs to placed on linux. its not out of the box yet, rarely is
[02:34] <jlh_> I would like to setup a re-think website for Linux users and programmers.
[02:35] <jlh_> that would be a start
[02:35] <flaccid> jlh_: so would i . you set it up and i'll post :)
[02:35] <jlh_> I'm graduating in June, I will have more time to invest in Linux.
[02:36] <jlh_> Linux could use a add/remove programs app.
[02:36] <jlh_> I don't mean adept or apt
[02:36] <K`zan> stdin: I think the only good reason is I got bit believing the marketing BS :-/.
[02:36] <Seeker`> isn't that what synaptic does?
[02:36] <conk> yep
[02:36] <stdin> jlh_: what about the one in the kmenu?
[02:36] <jlh_> Most people do not care what a dependancy is
[02:37] <flaccid> jlh_: it does have it
[02:37] <K`zan> stdin: about to uninstall all the 64 bit stuff and just install the 32 bit "equivalents"...
[02:37] <jlh_> kmenu
[02:37] <flaccid> there are a few add/remove gtk apps
[02:37] <stdin> K`zan: the only advantages or 64bit is if you have 4GB+ RAM really
[02:37] <geekster> jlh_ most people also don't care what a .dll is
[02:38] <jlh_> under system settings
[02:38] <jlh_> That's a good place to put it.
[02:38] <stdin> jlh_: Kmenu -> Add/Remove Programs
[02:39] <jlh_> Adobe EAsports don't write apps for us because there are to many distros
[02:39] <bonbonthejon> I am having trouble with kontact
[02:39] <jlh_> They are not going to write 40 versions of an installer
[02:39] <bonbonthejon> kontact will not fully maximize
[02:39] <flaccid> um
[02:39] <flaccid> thats coz they are stupid
[02:39] <jlh_> We need a standard
[02:40] <flaccid> you only need 1 version because of archs
[02:40] <geekster> jlh_ actually i talked to a bunch of the adobe guys at linuxworld, they dont write them more because of the percieved limited market share linux has today.
[02:40] <flaccid> jlh_: adobe is bullshitting basically
[02:40] <stdin> jlh_: linux just don't have enough market share, and you only need 3 packages for linux, a tar.gz a RPM and a DEB
[02:40] <flaccid> jlh_: have a look at nexuiz
[02:40] <jlh_> where do things reside /etc  /home  /var....
[02:40] <flaccid> stdin: or 1 binary installer
[02:40] <flaccid> man:heir
[02:41] <flaccid> hmm no mah:heir in ubuntu, thats not good
[02:41] <stdin> yep, like the nvidia driver installer, works on all linux, only one package
[02:41] <jlh_> What DEB? Not all Debian deb's are compatable with Ubuntu..
[02:41] <flaccid> oh it does
[02:41] <flaccid> i spelt it wrong
[02:41] <dwidmann> jlh_, much of it does seem to be standardized, to some extent
[02:41] <flaccid> jlh_: try man hier
[02:41] <geekster> jlh: there is a lot of issues with linux, same can be said for every OS out there.
[02:41] <jlh_> see what I mean, and that's stated on ubuntu
[02:41] <flaccid> jlh_: trust me its adobe not linux that is the problem
[02:42] <flaccid> nexuiz has one .zip and works on all platforms..........
[02:42] <jlh_> how about a click binary
[02:42] <stdin> jlh_: that's to do with what libs are packaged, and dependencies, just stick the directory tree in a deb, it'll work on all deb systems
[02:42] <geekster> jlh: try clicking on a .deb
[02:42] <jlh_> dpkg -ivh ooooo.beb
[02:42] <flaccid> a click binary is fine. x11 is a standard for gui and sh is standard for shell...
[02:43] <jlh_> you know what I'm talking about.
[02:43] <flaccid> there really isn't a problem
[02:43] <flaccid> it comes down to the developers
[02:43] <flaccid> excuses are always made..
[02:43] <jlh_> They don't all work. Let's keep out of the Linux fantasy world
[02:43] <flaccid> that sounds like a pathetic excuse
[02:44] <geekster> jlh_ i do know what your talking about and there is still a few pieces missing i do not disagree, but i think you will see windows has the same issues for a lot of stuff too.
[02:44] <flaccid> 'i want linux to rule', 'be easy on them they don't work' wtf
[02:44] <jlh_> I think there are better ways of doing things but I don't see them challenging MS
[02:44] <flaccid> things need to be treated on a professional level or it won't compete
[02:44] <flaccid> there is nothing missing.... i just disproved that
[02:44] <stdin> jlh_: depends on the package, but if you realace a full app, with all it's dependencies in it, it will work on any deb system
[02:45] <flaccid> a binary installer negates the need for more than 1 way of distribution
[02:45] <stdin> place not replace
[02:45] <geekster> jlh: better be glad its there or you would be even more harrassed with virus's and spyware, ms wouldnt have the competition forcing them to look better and more secure
[02:45] <homer> assuming KDE 4 comes out 2 weeks before fiesty comes out
[02:45] <jlh_> Right, but who wants to research all that. I can't get people to stop opening unknown mail senders.
[02:45] <homer> will it be included?
[02:45] <dwidmann> homer, kde4 will not be default in kubuntu
[02:46] <stdin> homer: I doubt KDE 4 will be out any time soon
[02:46] <dwidmann> it will be made available upon completion
[02:46] <flaccid> probably someone that wants to put some effort into the gnu/linux mission.........
[02:46] <stdin> not released anyway
[02:46] <homer> stdin: alot of KDE devs are working solely on KDE 4 now, so you never know
[02:46] <dwidmann> it will be a seperate set of packages entirely, kde3 apps are not compatible with kde4 at all, also, the settings directory will be ~/.kde4
[02:46] <stdin> homer: it'll take more than 4 months tho :p
[02:47] <flaccid> well i read there was a qt3 compatibility wrapper in qt4...........
[02:47] <jlh_> Most people want to sit on an IRC channel and piss each other off, rather than finding a solution to one major problem before moving on to the next.
[02:47] <flaccid> even showed that to me when i compiled qt4
[02:47] <geekster> jlh_: how much software have you released and how many how-to's have you written???
[02:47] <flaccid> most people i doubt ti. some perhaps, but that is not all people. nowhere near it
[02:47] <stdin> off topic discussions are supposed to be in #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:48] <geekster> k
[02:48] <flaccid> myself i've written articles, helped, reported bugs etc. something that a lot of people do here
[02:48] <jlh_> KDE will get some major apps designed for us because they will standarize something and distribute their toolkit like MS pushes the ASP suite
[02:48] <homer> it seems the ubuntu people have a special plan for KDE 4 if it get released
[02:48] <geekster> ditto flaccid and its why i do anytime in irc at all
[02:49] <geekster> i personally can't wait to see kde4... quite excited.
[02:49] <jlh_> I'm the freakin' penguin. What does it matter. I use Linux
[02:49] <stdin> i'm gonna wait until at least RC1 to try kde4
[02:49] <homer> plasma looks to be the coolest part of it
[02:49] <geekster> glad to finally have my treo syncing with kontact.
[02:50] <homer> but that is really pre-alpha
[02:50] <homer> alot of libraries are mature while others are pre-alpha
[02:50] <brandon> hey can someone tell me if there is a way to fix flash on myspace so that it displays the players correctly
[02:50] <homer> like phonon is pretty mature
[02:50] <K`zan> stdin: based on my experiences so far, I agree :-).  I don't have anything that needs 4G of RAM so I might as well install the 32 bit versions :-/.
[02:50] <stdin> yeah, not developer release, a release candidate
[02:50] <dwidmann> I think I'll wait til there are debs ... takes too much bandwidth to keep up with svn
[02:50] <jlh_> I will be happy we are not always adding "finally" when something works.
[02:50] <stdin> K`zan: it will save you a whole lot of trouble :p
[02:51] <homer> also KWin improvements look cool
[02:51] <homer> KHTML is really heavy development
[02:51] <K`zan> stdin: I would have :-) but I have already beat my head bloody finding out what works and what doesn't :-).  At least I can stop that now :-).
[02:51] <dwidmann> I wonder if they're working on a new kwin theme or not, hmmm
[02:51] <homer> lots of commits to it
[02:51] <geekster> im quite happy with kde as it is but cooler is nice and kde4 definetly looks to deliver on that.
[02:52] <bonbonthejon> can someone help me figure out how to get konqueror to work with Novell BorderManager
[02:53] <jlh_> see ya all
[03:13] <BluesKaj> what's force removal command for an unwanted file that consistently wants to install
[03:13] <BluesKaj> ?
[03:13] <stdin> apt-get remove ?
[03:14] <bonbonthejon> BluesKaj: apt-get purge?
[03:14] <Hobbsee> apt-get remove --purge
[03:14] <BluesKaj> no, apt doesn't work
[03:14] <stdin> BluesKaj: what's exactly is the situation ?
[03:15] <BluesKaj> trying to get risd of calmav it intereferes with upgrades in synaptic
[03:15] <BluesKaj> clamav
[03:15] <stdin> BluesKaj: try with aptitude remove
[03:16] <Jiong> ?
[03:34] <Alter-Ego> does kubuntu have a billing clock/timer ?
[03:37] <denis> good mornmng
[03:37] <denis> h morning
[03:38] <denis> I have a problem with adept since I upgraded to kubuntu 6.10
[03:38] <radiant> can someone do a /whois on me and post it in whisper?
[03:39] <denis> I have 27 packages to update but everytime I want to do that the package to be updatet is shown as (break)
[03:39] <denis> any idea?
[03:41] <denis> perhaps because of the sources.list?
[03:41] <denis> :-/
[03:42] <BluesKaj> the calmav pkg is broken and upgrading doesn't work and purging won't either ...stuck in limbo and it's interfering with upgrading other pkgs
[03:42] <BluesKaj> clamav
[03:47] <n8k99> hey there
[03:49] <bonbonthejon> hi
[03:49] <denis> bye
[03:51] <draik> Can I convert pdf to another format?
[03:51] <draik> In Kubuntu, can I convert pdf to doc, odt or another format?
[04:00] <nikola> guess what?
[04:00] <nikola> I GOT KBFX TO WORK
[04:00] <nikola> KIND OF
[04:01] <nikola> I kinda cheated it into working :P
[04:01] <bonbonthejon> nikola: did you use the repository?
[04:01] <nikola> nope
[04:01] <Annirak> How would I go about recording a 15-minute audio clip from line-in at specific times of day?
[04:01] <nikola> there is a place where you can change the look of the bar in the bar settings
[04:01] <nikola> i did that
[04:02] <nikola> then i dloaded a program that became my kbfx button
[04:02] <lupine_85> Annirak: $console recording program + cron
[04:02] <nikola> thats all
[04:02] <nikola> my computer now looks like.............. windows xp...................
[04:02] <bonbonthejon> eww
[04:02] <nikola> wow, this is totally an OS confused Mac
[04:02] <bonbonthejon> lol
[04:02] <nikola> iz still my fav computer :P
[04:03] <nikola> mainly cuz i cant get my hands on my dad's macpro ><
[04:03] <Annirak> lupine_85: any suggestions for the console based recording program?
[04:03] <nikola> oh, that reminds me
[04:03] <nikola> how do i get my webcam and mic to work with kubuntu?
[04:04] <lupine_85> Annirak: no, sorry.
[04:06] <geoffb> Hey folks, kubuntu on an intel macbook! woo! a much easier windowing system to cope with than OS X! I'm stuck with screen resolution of 1024x768, I want/need 1280x800, no option to change it in the gui. May I have some pointers on how to fix that please?
[04:12] <BluesKaj> geoffb, sys/settings/monitor&display/hardware/admin mode/scrnsize slider
[04:13] <BluesKaj> correction geoffb,sys/settings/monitor&display/admin mode/scrnsize slider
[04:18] <makuseru> anyone know a channel i can go to for videogame help?
[04:20] <geoffb> BluesKaj: thanks, I've tried that, I don't have options beyond 1204x768... at the moment I'm digging in xorg.conf to rectify that
[04:23] <BluesKaj> yes, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ...there you'll see the options for scrn resolutions
[04:24] <BluesKaj> !xorg
[04:24] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:25] <BluesKaj> !xserver-xorg
[04:25] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 584 kB
[04:25] <makuseru> anyone know a channel i can go to for videogame help?
[04:25] <BluesKaj> !xserver
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <BluesKaj> heh
[04:25] <stdin> !xconf
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <scorp2025> Hi, I need to install the gettext-ruby1.8 package in Dapper, unfortunately the given version is quite buggy and more or less useless for my purpose.
[04:26] <scorp2025> What shall I do?
[04:26] <prophitinc> hey i need help setting up a password for su
[04:26] <stdin> !xconfig
[04:26] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[04:26] <stdin> ahh :)
[04:26] <BluesKaj> that's it
[04:26] <stdin> prophitinc: use sudo
[04:27] <prophitinc> sudo
[04:27] <stdin> !sudo
[04:27] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:27] <j_> Hey, I feel rude, is it ok if I ask for some help in here? lol
[04:27] <stdin> !ask
[04:27] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:27] <prophitinc> i need to install java
[04:27] <prophitinc> i downloaded 2 different files
[04:28] <j_> just installed kubuntu, and all my images are screwed up, it's like on a badly compressed video, all the black space in any image is like green and scrambled
[04:28] <stdin> !java | prophitinc
[04:28] <ubotu> prophitinc: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:28] <makuseru> prophitinc: you could use automatix
[04:28] <prophitinc> whats that
[04:28] <stdin> !ausomatix
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ausomatix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <stdin> !automatix
[04:28] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:28] <makuseru> lies
[04:28] <stdin> ^^^ automatix = bad
[04:28] <makuseru> it dosnt break anything
[04:28] <makuseru> no
[04:28] <stdin> yes
[04:28] <stdin> :p
[04:29] <makuseru> automatix = makes EVERYTHINg easier
[04:29] <notech> seen itt hose a different distro
[04:29] <makuseru> its for ubuntu based distros only
[04:29] <makuseru> w32 codecs, multimedia codes, mplayer and flash plugin for FF and java
[04:29] <makuseru> prophitinc: www.getautomatix.com
[04:29] <notech> no it isn't, or maybe it was automatrix. something along the ssame thing
[04:30] <prophitinc> how do i enable multiverse?
[04:30] <makuseru> yes automatix is ubuntu ONLY
[04:30] <makuseru> it says it on its main site
[04:30] <BluesKaj> hmmm, can't seem to purge or upgrade a broken pkg ...what does one do to get rid of it ?
[04:30] <stdin> automatix can leave your system in an an usable state when you try and upgrade, if you use it, you do so AT YOUR OWN RISK
[04:30] <BluesKaj> it won't fix either
[04:30] <BluesKaj> din't used automtix
[04:31] <BluesKaj> use
[04:31] <stdin> BluesKaj: that statement wasn't directed at you :) what package is it, clamav?
[04:31] <makuseru> stdin: automatix does only good
[04:31] <prophitinc> so how do you enable multiverse?
[04:31] <stdin> makuseru: like I say, if it breaks your system, too bad
[04:31] <notech> makuseru: maybe for you, but many others have had troubles
[04:32] <BluesKaj> yeah, damn thing sticks like sh..t to a blanket
[04:32] <stdin> !multiverse | prophitinc
[04:32] <ubotu> prophitinc: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:32] <stdin> BluesKaj: try sudo dpkg -r clamav
[04:32] <david_> salut
[04:33] <david_> ya quelqun?
[04:33] <stdin> !fr
[04:33] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:33] <BluesKaj> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove clamav which isn't installed...strangest thing, yet it keeps wanting to upgrade WTF ?
[04:34] <stdin> BluesKaj: what dose "dpkg --list | grep clamav" show?
[04:34] <stdin> BluesKaj: pastebin if it's large
[04:34] <notech> Automatix2 does not replace your sources list. It adds missing official sources and some safe third party sources to your existing sources.list  ...... so nice of them to determine what 3rd party are safe while giving you no choice in the matter
[04:35] <stdin> notech: and why not just do it the safe way, following the guides on help.ubuntu.com ?
[04:35] <BluesKaj> just pmd ya, stdin
[04:36] <BluesKaj> well queryed
[04:36] <notech> stdin: i would never use automatix
[04:37] <stdin> BluesKaj: try "sudo dpkg -r clamav-base clamav-daemon clamav-freshclam ibclamav1 "
[04:38] <BluesKaj> warning: ignoring request to remove ibclamav1 which isn't installed
[04:38] <stdin> people should not reccommend automatix, or easyubuntu, as both can do considerable damage, if you still want to use it, then good luck
[04:39] <BluesKaj> easyubuntu is a bit better , not as damaging as automatix
[04:39] <php-freak> $ lynx -source http://go-pear.org/ | php ?
[04:39] <php-freak> $ lynx -source http://go-pear.org/ | php  how do i run this?
[04:39] <stdin> BluesKaj: huh... , try " sudo dpkg -r clamav-base clamav-daemon clamav-freshclam"
[04:40] <php-freak> $ lynx -source http://go-pear.org/ | php  how do i run this?
[04:41] <stdin> !php
[04:41] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:41] <stdin> !php3
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about php3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <stdin> !php4
[04:41] <ubotu> php4: server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package). In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.4.2-1.1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[04:41] <stdin> php-freak: try installing that
[04:41] <holger> hello
[04:41] <stdin> php-freak: then run the command in konsole
[04:42] <php-freak> i already got that installed
[04:42] <php-freak> stdin? what are you talking about
[04:42] <php-freak> I'm asking how do I installed pear
[04:42] <j_> j_
[04:42] <php-freak> do you know anything about php
[04:42] <php-freak> http://pear.php.net/manual/en/installation.getting.php its telling me how to install pear here, and thats what im trying to do
[04:42] <stdin> php-freak: you have to install php, then run the command it says in konsole
[04:43] <php-freak> stdin: php is install cli version/ web version
[04:43] <php-freak>  -source http://go-pear.org/ | php
[04:43] <php-freak> i run that
[04:43] <php-freak> unkown command
[04:43] <holger> is there a way to delete the last entry from history. "history -d" wants to know the offset, but i don't know the offset of the last element. mmh
[04:44] <stdin> php-freak: ok, if you have it installed, just run the command in console as "lynx -source http://pear.php.net/go-pear | php -q"
[04:44] <php-freak> command not found
[04:45] <holger> "history | tail -n 2" returns the offset i want to know, how can i match it?
[04:45] <stdin> php-freak: try: "wget http://go-pear.org/ -O - | php -q"
[04:47] <_sledge_> Did you mean: ubuntu upgrade from edgy to frosty
[04:47] <_sledge_> rofl
[04:47] <_sledge_> :P
[04:48] <BluesKaj> snowman is the latest > :)
[04:50] <php-freak> stdin: cool got it whats the -O -q for?
[04:51] <stdin> php-freak: the '-O -' makes wget output the file to stdout, and but I don't know what the '-q' option to php dose
[04:55] <zshay> are the servers for apt-get running slow today?
[04:56] <zshay> all of my downloads are going normal speed except for apt-get downloads...
[04:57] <virustech> hi! who can tell me how to play mp3 music on my kubuntu? please
[04:57] <_sledge_> !mp3
[04:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:57] <Annirak> how do I change the volume of /dev/dsp?
[04:57] <Annirak> Well, for recording audio, that is
[04:58] <stdin> Annirak: use kmix for that
[04:58] <stdin> zshay: depends which servers you are using
[04:59] <Annirak> stdin I'm trying to record audio from a script.  Can I use kmix to change the audio in that scenario?
[05:00] <stdin> Annirak: that should work, or alsamixer
[05:01] <Search4Lancer> eeee problem!
[05:01] <Search4Lancer> I've been doing some rearraging in my room and left my laptop unplugged and of course it died
[05:02] <Search4Lancer> I just started it back up and the screen size was at 800x600 (not sure what it was before), which is definitely not right
[05:02] <Search4Lancer> I tried changing it to the larger value, and rather than making everything smaller (the desired effect) everything stayed the same size, and the screen was scrolling
[05:02] <stdin> !xconfig | Search4Lancer
[05:02] <ubotu> Search4Lancer: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[05:03] <stdin> Search4Lancer: use the last command there ^^
[05:03] <Search4Lancer> it's the resolution that's the problem, correct?
[05:03] <stdin> Search4Lancer: yes
[05:04] <Search4Lancer> that didn't do much
[05:04] <stdin> Search4Lancer: what happened when you ran it?
[05:05] <Search4Lancer> "warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; file has been customized"
[05:05] <Search4Lancer> and it overwrote it, but with who knows what
[05:06] <stdin> Search4Lancer: ahh, run this first: sudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum'
[05:06] <stdin> Search4Lancer: then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" again
[05:07] <Search4Lancer> same result (or lack thereof)
[05:07] <stdin> Search4Lancer: what version of kubuntu are you on?
[05:08] <Search4Lancer> heck if I know... I tried to upgrade to Edgy and it didn't work, so... Dapper?
[05:08] <Search4Lancer> kind of silly that there aren't resolution settings somewhere easily accessible
[05:09] <stdin> Search4Lancer: in konsole type: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5su
[05:09] <stdin> Search4Lancer: correction: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[05:10] <Search4Lancer> result: c6c0b7a666f6d7b298b3eb42cda2f713  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:11] <stdin> Search4Lancer: ok, now type : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[05:11] <stdin> Search4Lancer: toy should see a a blue menu come up
[05:11] <stdin> (sort of)
[05:12] <Balsamic_Chicken> good evening stdin
[05:12] <Balsamic_Chicken> =)
[05:12] <thompa> is there a special kernel i want for amd64 duo core, it installed with generic, ?
[05:12] <stdin> good morning Balsamic_Chicken :p
[05:12] <stdin> thompa: generic is fine
[05:12] <thompa> there is amd64 generic also though
[05:12] <Balsamic_Chicken> what's the equivalent of krdc remote desktop connection in ubuntu?
[05:12] <Search4Lancer> stdin: still gives me the whole "not updating, possibly customized" schpeel
[05:13] <stdin> Search4Lancer: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:13] <stdin> (without the -phigh)
[05:13] <draik> Doees     dpkg --get-selection    work for anyone?
[05:13] <thompa> stdin: shouldnt i be using amd64-k8-smp or something?
[05:13] <stdin> draik: yes, but it's dpkg --get-selections
[05:14] <draik> stdin: UGH... I hate missing that one letter
[05:14] <stdin> thompa: no, they have all been merged in to the generic one
[05:14] <draik> stdin: Thank you... again
[05:14] <MarcC-Li> where can I find the settings for the "lock screen" command? It stopped displaying the screensaver all of a sudden.
[05:14] <stdin> !generic
[05:14] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[05:14] <thompa> stdin: good enough
[05:14] <thompa> tanx
[05:14] <draik> stdin: I've had so much help from you today. I thank you for that. When do I get your bill?
[05:15] <draik> woohoo... plugin works!
[05:15] <Balsamic_Chicken> what's the equivalent of krdc remote desktop connection in ubuntu?
[05:15] <stdin> draik: no problem, but all donations are welcome :p j/k
[05:15] <draik> stdin: why not?
[05:16] <BluesKaj> nite all
[05:16] <stdin> draik: hey, if you want to send my money, I won't stop you
[05:16] <draik> stdin: Depends, where's it going?
[05:17] <stdin> draik: i'm in the UK
[05:17] <draik> Hmmm...
[05:17] <draik> stdin: I'm in the US
[05:17] <thompa> !xgl
[05:17] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:17] <draik> stdin: might be a BIT of a problem there
[05:17] <Search4Lancer> yuy I don't even know what to put for half the crap it's asking me
[05:17] <stdin> Balsamic_Chicken: ask in #ubuntu ?
[05:18] <stdin> Search4Lancer: just leave as default (press enter), until you get to the resolution part
[05:18] <stdin> draik: paypal :p
[05:18] <draik> stdin: That's what I was thinking
[05:18] <draik> stdin: I deal with paypal at work all day long
[05:19] <draik> stdin: It's just a matter of conversion now
[05:19] <stdin> I can't remember the last time I used it, but it's useful to have one i guess
[05:20] <draik> stdin: Its about what... $1 USD is about $0.50 or so
[05:20] <draik> I know my USD is worthless to you
[05:20] <draik> so I have to bulk it up just right
[05:21] <stdin> draik: google says $1 = 0.516182316  :p
[05:21] <draik> yup
[05:22] <stdin> Search4Lancer: 1024x768 is standard, but you can go bigger
[05:22] <Search4Lancer> well it's a widescreen laptop
[05:22] <stdin> ahh, ok
[05:22] <Search4Lancer> it has 1280*800 selected... I think that's what I've been using
[05:24] <stdin> yeah, sounds right
[05:25] <Search4Lancer> okay.... I'm done.... now what? restart xorg?
[05:27] <stdin> Search4Lancer: yes, you just logout, and choose "restart X server" from the login menu (or press Ctrl-Alt-BackSpace if you can't find it)
[05:30] <Search4Lancer> :-\ still seems wrong
[05:30] <Search4Lancer> well, still _is_ wrong
[05:30] <stdin> is it a different resolution tho?
[05:31] <Search4Lancer> no... I'm pretty sure it's the same as it was a moment ago
[05:32] <stdin> maybe this page can help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:36] <Balsamic_Chicken> i'm trying to connect to someone that's could use krdc, once i know his ip address, how do i connect to him, does he need to have some application open for me to be able to connect with him?
[05:37] <stdin> Balsamic_Chicken: don't know, but here's a help page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[05:38] <Balsamic_Chicken> stdin ty
[05:38] <stdin> np , hope it helps
[05:45] <apixelatedoffice> I recently installed KDE, which is better with the KDE desktop... easy ubuntu OR automatix?
[05:45] <stdin> nither
[05:45] <kai_> wasup
[05:45] <stdin> see this warning:
[05:45] <stdin> !automatix
[05:45] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:46] <stdin> if you still want to install, then go ahead
[05:46] <kai_> How would I go about releasing and renewing my Ip number if linus?
[05:46] <apixelatedoffice> hmm, yeah, I want some stuff done fast, but I guess I'd better take it slow.
[05:46] <stdin> kai_: try "sudo ifup --force eth0" if it's the IP of eth0 you want to renew
[05:47] <kai_> ahhh, is that one a wiki for commands and what not
[05:47] <stdin> kai_: huh?
[05:48] <stdin> apixelatedoffice: what things do you want? codecs,flash,java?
[05:48] <kai_> is there a wiki or something where I can look up some ip commmands I can in linux? I don't know any
[05:48] <apixelatedoffice> yeah,... pretty much.
[05:49] <stdin> kai_: all I can recommend is search google, I just happen to have learnt that command
[05:49] <kai_> lol
[05:49] <apixelatedoffice> It's cool, I have a lot to figure out, I'll figure it out soon enough. :)
[05:49] <kai_> ok
[05:49] <stdin> apixelatedoffice: this page has all the info you need: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:50] <apixelatedoffice> oh thanks :)
[05:50] <stdin> no problem
[05:50] <stdin> apixelatedoffice: if you have any other questions, or need help, just ask :)
[05:50] <apixelatedoffice> thanks :)
[05:56] <crav> I have a broadcom bcm4318 that I absolutely cannot get to work. I've read and attmpted at least 10 different guides on the subject. Is it worth my $17 to just get a compatable card?
[05:57] <Balsamic_Chicken> what's good then
[05:57] <stdin> crav: have you read the guides on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs ?
[05:58] <stdin> crav: dapper or edgy?
[05:58] <crav> edgy
[05:58] <aseigo> Riddell: ping
[05:58] <stdin> looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy
[05:58] <aseigo> dammit. wrong channel
[05:58] <stdin> heh
[05:58] <stdin> crav: that link should help
[05:59] <crav> i haven't seen that particular link
[05:59] <crav> i shall try yet again!
[06:00] <crav> right now i'm only online because of windows
[06:00] <crav> so i shall return, hopefully NOT while in windows.
[06:00] <stdin> ok, good luck crav
[06:06] <makuseru> anyone know a channel i can go to for videogame help?
[06:07] <Admiral_Chicago>  /list might know.
[06:07] <Admiral_Chicago> what do you mean video game help
[06:07] <stdin> makuseru: don't think there is one, have you looked at the help page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games
[06:08] <makuseru> no i havent
[06:08] <makuseru> thanks
[06:13] <knapp> Anyone familiar with Devede?
[06:13] <knapp> How can I make chapters in it?
[06:15] <Dr_willis> never heard of it.
[06:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:17] <dwidmann> Dr_willis, it's a python app for creating dvds, so now you've heard of it :)
[06:17] <dwidmann> **video dvds
[06:18] <stdin> knapp: when you select a file, you can set chapter length under "Advanced options"
[06:18] <stdin> don't think you can set chapters manually tho, just the length between them
[06:19] <stdin> nice little app there, didn't know about it
[06:20] <knapp> hmm let me take a look
[06:21] <knapp> stdin
[06:21] <stdin> yes
[06:21] <knapp> I have 11 avi files that I want to put on dvd. How can I make it so each (1-11) are chapters?
[06:21] <knapp> 11 chapters
[06:22] <knapp> Maybe just uncheck that box that says split into chapters?
[06:23] <stdin> knapp: don't think you can with that app, I think you can with kmediafactory tho
[06:23] <knapp> *sigh* so many freakin programs
[06:24] <knapp> why cant one do them all :/
[06:24] <stdin> knapp: but you can try unchecking the box and err
[06:24] <stdin> see not err :p
[06:26] <Minataku> stdin: Say, do you know where genii is?
[06:26] <stdin> Minataku: I don't, he's not online atm
[06:26] <Minataku> :o
[06:26] <stdin> hasn't been all day
[06:27] <Minataku> He said he'd be back yesterday and he wasn't
[06:27] <stdin> he was here yesterday
[06:27] <Annirak> I'm trying to capture audio from my line-in port with a script.  I'm using rec (sox package).  When I listen to the audio stream by removing the mute flag from line-in in alsamixer, I hear clean audio.  When I record it with $rec -d /dev/dsp outfile.wav and play it back in kaffeine, it's distorted.  When I force the sample rate to 44.1kHz, it's not as bad, but it's still distorted.
[06:27] <Minataku> stdin: I didn't see him :o
[06:29] <stdin> Minataku: he was here as genii and genii2
[06:29] <stdin> but he left at 11pm GMT
[06:30] <Minataku> stdin: Weird... maybe my brain is busted
[06:30] <Minataku> Wouldn't be the first time
[06:30] <Minataku> XD
[06:30] <stdin> Minataku: he should be here tomorrow, he has the odd day off :p
[06:31] <stdin> Annirak: maybe try asking in #ubuntu or ##linux seeing as it's not really a kubuntu specific issue
[06:33] <Minataku> stdin: Ah
[06:33] <Minataku> stdin: I was a bit worried, lol
[06:33] <stdin> Minataku: maybe he actually has a life outside of linux :p
[06:34] <Minataku> stdin: lol
[06:34] <Minataku> stdin: I know, I know
[06:34] <stdin> not like me :p
[06:34] <Minataku> But he wasn't around when he said he would be and I got a little concerned
[06:34] <Minataku> I'm still young enough to care sometimes
[06:34] <Minataku> XD
[06:34] <stdin> aww :)
[06:35] <Annirak> stdin: point.
[06:35] <Minataku> I'm cynical as all hell but I still have some love
[06:35] <Minataku> XD
[06:35] <stdin> all you need is love, love, love ....
[06:35] <stdin> :p
[06:35] <Minataku> lol
[06:37] <Minataku> Annirak: Perhaps the input signal is too high for the card? That could lead to clipping if precautions aren't taken
[06:38] <Annirak> It does play properly when done directly
[06:38] <Annirak> just not when recorded
[06:43] <Valmarko> I'd like to spend some of my free time by learning programing my computer. I' ve just downloaded to books: Ruby Cook Book ; The Rubu way. Well, I just need the ruby itself and some decent IDE :) Could someone help me ?
[06:44] <Minataku> Hm
[06:44] <Minataku> !ruby
[06:44] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[06:44] <Minataku> Oooh, that's nice
[06:44] <Valmarko> tanks :)
[06:44] <Minataku> Valmarko: I'd suggest Python, though
[06:44] <Minataku> It's more prevalent of a scripting language than Ruby
[06:45] <morghanphoenix> !dmi
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <Minataku> Also for a real language, there's always good old C++
[06:45] <Minataku> Or C
[06:45] <Valmarko> I no nothing about programming. I just want to start from some point, But, why do you suggest python?
[06:45] <Minataku> Valmarko: Personal preference, really, I use a couple programs written in Python and they're great
[06:46] <morghanphoenix> Python is the one I'm trying to learn in what little spare time I have. Lots of stuff I have is written in python and it's supposed to be one of the simpler languages to learn
[06:46] <Minataku> I've never actually used anything written in Ruby, yet, and it seems less prevalent than Python is
[06:46] <stdin> !python
[06:46] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.4.3-11ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 208 kB
[06:46] <Dr_willis> different focus :)
[06:46] <Minataku> :3
[06:46] <Valmarko> ummm... Are there any books ?
[06:47] <morghanphoenix> !direct rendering
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about direct rendering - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <stdin> I know of a python ide, but not a ruby one
[06:47] <morghanphoenix> Anyone know the url for the direct rendering help?
[06:47] <stdin> !dri
[06:47] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[06:47] <Valmarko> Well... tanks :)
[06:47] <stdin> morghanphoenix: what graphics card do you have ?
[06:48] <morghanphoenix> ATi Radeon 7000 128MB
[06:48] <stdin> morghanphoenix: what dose "glxinfo |grep direct" show ?
[06:49] <morghanphoenix> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:49] <morghanphoenix> direct rendering: No
[06:49] <morghanphoenix> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:49] <Minataku> Valmarko: No problem
[06:49] <stdin> morghanphoenix: ahh, you need the ati binary driver then
[06:49] <stdin> !ati
[06:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:50] <morghanphoenix> Starts at the Radeon 9000 series in the support list
[06:50] <morghanphoenix> is there a legacy driver
[06:51] <morghanphoenix> 7000 is a pretty new card, it's amazing the ATi driver doesn't support it
[06:51] <Minataku> If all else fails, there's always VESA
[06:52] <morghanphoenix> !vesa
[06:52] <ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[06:52] <Minataku> I have to remember that *buntu does things in an easy/automated manner
[06:53] <stdin> morghanphoenix: what dose "lspci |grep VGA" show" ?
[06:53] <Minataku> I'm a Gentoo user who came in here to talk to someone so the thought of not doing it myself confounds me
[06:53] <Minataku> XD
[06:53] <stdin> morghanphoenix: that's "lspci |grep VGA"
[06:53] <morghanphoenix> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
[06:53] <stdin> looks like ATI don't supply a driver for that anymore :(
[06:54] <Minataku> Isn't there a legacy ATI driver that they shove all their way-too-early-EOL'd card drivers to?
[06:54] <Minataku> Or has ATI gotten worse since the last crap I heard about them?
[06:54] <morghanphoenix> Ack, not fair, even dgen is running slow and choppy.
[06:54] <stdin> oldest driver I can find is 8500 series
[06:55] <stdin> hmm, google time :p
[06:55] <Minataku> I hate when they do things like that, as if nobody uses the card anymore when in reality a lot of people still do
[06:55] <morghanphoenix> It's a pretty new card too.
[06:55] <Minataku> EOL/EOS doesn't mean End Of Use
[06:56] <Minataku> Companies that provide no support for older products aren't companies worth doing business with
[06:56] <Minataku> Solely because of the fact that at any time determined by the company you'll end up screwed
[06:57] <morghanphoenix> I didn't buy it at least
[06:57] <Minataku> lol
[06:57] <morghanphoenix> Every part of my computer was free
[06:57] <Minataku> At least I know better than to ever buy ATI
[06:58] <morghanphoenix> Salvaged from peoples junked systems, whatever still works and is better than what I have ends up in my box.
[06:58] <Minataku> Lest my computer become more than 6 months old and they tell me my card is obsolete and that I can copulate with myself
[06:58] <Minataku> Trying to keep the language clean for in here
[06:58] <Minataku> lol
[06:58] <morghanphoenix> Amazing what people trash computers for
[06:59] <Minataku> Indeed
[06:59] <morghanphoenix> Most of my system was trashed because thier copy of windows me crashed
[06:59] <Minataku> "Oh, this is more than 10 days old, bin it"
[06:59] <Minataku> And of course the companies all assume that this is what EVERYONE does
[07:00] <morghanphoenix> I'm going to be buying a new laptop from linux certified soon, it'll be the first new computer I've owned since my 386 in the  mid 90s
[07:00] <Minataku> While in reality most people don't have the money or rather the expertise to change their hardware every time the next thing comes out
[07:01] <morghanphoenix> Is impossible to screw up in windows if the CD that comes with it has good drivers.
[07:01] <morghanphoenix> Just plug & play, then insert the disc for bonus features
[07:02] <flaccid> welcome to capitalism, Minataku
[07:02] <Minataku> Not to mention the total folly of "Intellectual Property" which really does nothing more than cause advancement to grind to a halt and lay festering
[07:02] <morghanphoenix> It would be just as easy in linux if you could actually find the damn drivers
[07:02] <Minataku> flaccid: Don't remind me, capitalism is the same reason we have to fight DRM/TCPA
[07:02] <morghanphoenix> DRM is the reason I'm using linux now
[07:03] <morghanphoenix> Microsoft, Apple and Sony got into a fight over who owned my music and videos, my computer was the loser
[07:03] <Minataku> With any (of their) luck we'll all be forced to use Windows thanks to big business
[07:03] <Minataku> morghanphoenix: That's a good one
[07:04] <morghanphoenix> And of course Microsoft wanted a butt load of money for the disc to the OS I allready owned
[07:04] <Minataku> Of course
[07:04] <morghanphoenix> Mine had been damaged, and even with a valid cd-key they wanted more than an old OS is worth.
[07:05] <Minataku> "License transfer!? THAT'S ILLEGAL WITCHCRAFT!"
[07:06] <morghanphoenix> I think if you've bought the damn OS you should be able to use it. We have an old 333 that has windows XP and it should be transferable to the faster computers, but no, that wouldn't make more money.
[07:07] <Minataku> Of course not, it's locked to the original computer thanks to "Product Activation"
[07:07] <morghanphoenix> As long as you remove it from the old computer there shouldn't be a problem, you still only own one installed copy, but that would constitute good customer service.
[07:07] <Search4Lancer> *gasp!*
[07:07] <Minataku> And -$300
[07:07] <morghanphoenix> Which I've had to do again four times in the last six months for the cd-rom, video card and both sticks of ram.
[07:08] <Minataku> Or whatever they overcharge for Windows
[07:08] <morghanphoenix> $200
[07:08] <morghanphoenix> But since you've allready paid $200, I guess that'd make it $400, so $300 is a good average.
[07:10] <morghanphoenix> Gotta go to Safeway, out of Dr. Pepper, not a good thing when you're short on sleep.
[07:10] <morghanphoenix> Too bad they stopped selling jolt around here.
[07:10] <Minataku> Sorry to sidetrack the channel with all that XD
[07:13] <flaccid> at the end of the day its people and greed that ruin it
[07:13] <flaccid> and as if google has lived up to their slogan
[07:14] <geoffb> human greed
[07:14] <flaccid> thats a double superlative, geoffb
[07:14] <geoffb> lol
[07:14] <flaccid> heh i know someone named geoffb too
[07:15] <geoffb> but you're better now?
[07:15] <flaccid> humans > greed
[07:15] <flaccid> huh
[07:16] <Rob-West> !bittorrent
[07:16] <ubotu> bittorrent: Scatter-gather network file transfer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 90 kB, installed size 556 kB
[07:16] <Rob-West> my bittorrent wont work
[07:17] <Rob-West> like 73% through a download and it stops working
[07:17] <Minataku> Rob-West: Are there still seeds/peers?
[07:18] <Rob-West> yea
[07:18] <Minataku> Hm
[07:18] <Rob-West> but it bittorrent freezes
[07:18] <Minataku> Weird
[07:18] <Rob-West> even in gnome
[07:19] <stdin> Rob-West: it may be there aren't any seeders
[07:19] <Rob-West> no theres like 600 seeders
[07:19] <Minataku> stdin: I asked that already, apparantly the app is freezing up on him
[07:20] <Rob-West> like if i have it opened and i open konversation
[07:20] <Rob-West> then try to go back to bittorrent its just a blank gray window
[07:21] <xenophile7x7> does anyone know a good resource to look up CLI-based software for kubuntu?
[07:22] <geoffb> xenophile7x7: is there something in particular that you're looking for?
[07:22] <xenophile7x7> no
[07:22] <xenophile7x7> ive only been using linux a few day,s so im still learning
[07:23] <stdin> Rob-West: maybe try a console torrent application, like rtorrent
[07:23] <xenophile7x7> but i want to focus more on cli than the gui
[07:23] <eve> hi
[07:23] <Rob-West> wont i have to start my download from 0%
[07:23] <xenophile7x7> im not necessarily tryin to find a download site. just a resource to see whats available.
[07:23] <Minataku> No
[07:23] <geoffb> xenophile7x7: I'm not aware of a specific place to search for cli only stuff. I often use freshmeat.net for finding stuff generally
[07:24] <Minataku> It should start from where the other client left off
[07:24] <stdin> Rob-West: probably, but maybe you could copy the partly downloaded files/dirs to where rtorrent saves them, and it may resume (maybe)
[07:24] <xenophile7x7> ok, ill give that a shot. thanks!
[07:24] <geoffb> but I usually approach it from the point of view of solving a specific problem, not browsing
[07:24] <geoffb> u welcome
[07:24] <geoffb> do ask if there's something specific you need a solution to
[07:24] <xenophile7x7> oh i will
[07:24] <Rob-West> where does rtorrent save
[07:25] <geoffb> :-)
[07:25] <xenophile7x7> just checking around to see whats out there atm though
[07:25] <xenophile7x7> kinda compare and contrast, experiminting and such
[07:25] <Rob-West> how do i open a torrent file
[07:26] <stdin> in rtorrent?
[07:26] <Rob-West> yea
[07:26] <geoffb> fair enough... maybe have a look at... .lynx (web browser), wget (web harvester!!!), rtorrent (bittorrent client)... uhm.... /me scratches head...
[07:26] <geoffb> Rob-West: iirc, it will accept the torrent filename as a command line argument
[07:26] <stdin> yep
[07:26] <Rob-West> [Snarf-It.org]  Microsoft_Flight_Simulator_X_Deluxe-Razor1911.torrent
[07:27] <Rob-West> so just put that in
[07:27] <stdin> Rob-West: start it like: rtorrent torrentfile.torrent
[07:27] <geoffb> lol... no, MSFS won't run on linux <grin>...
[07:27] <geoffb> yes, that's right
[07:27] <genben> hi all, been trying to config the jre plugin for FF on kubuntu according to the instructions at plugin.mozdev.org, but it isn't working
[07:28] <Rob-West> i give up
[07:28] <Rob-West> i wish i could FTP it
[07:28] <geoffb> Rob-West: what's the issue? is it still giving you grief?
[07:28] <Rob-West> yes
[07:28] <Rob-West> i should have just stuck to windows
[07:28] <geoffb> so what have you done so far?
[07:29] <stdin> genben: use the packages in multiverse
[07:29] <geoffb> don't stress dude, it can all be sorted :-)
[07:29] <genben> k, what is the correct package name
[07:29] <Rob-West> well before bittorrent stopped wanting to work my file got to 72%
[07:29] <geoffb> oh, ok, and now you're trying a different torrent client....
[07:29] <geoffb> gotcha
[07:29] <Rob-West> then i lost power and then bittorrent started acting up
[07:29] <stdin> genben: sun-java5-plugin
[07:30] <geoffb> and rtorrent? not working?
[07:30] <Rob-West> it wont open the torrent file
[07:30] <genben> stdin: ta
[07:30] <geoffb> on the command line, you're typing "rtorrent <torrent file name>"?
[07:30] <Rob-West> yes
[07:30] <genben> so pretty much anyhting i want to do, just follow the various ubuntu methods?
[07:31] <stdin> genben: you have multivers enabled tho?
[07:31] <genben> i do
[07:31] <geoffb> and it says....?
[07:31] <Rob-West> ill try Kget
[07:31] <stdin> genben: there is normally an ubuntu way, look at this page for others: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:32] <genben> stdin: thanks
[07:32] <stdin> no problem :)
[07:33] <geoffb> Rob-West: when switching to another torrent client, if it starts again at 0%, then look for ways to make it find the stuff you've already downloaded. Sometimes they will have different defautl destination dirs, and you might need to re-arrange the settings to make it play nice with what you've already retrieved.
[07:34] <Rob-West> ill try FrostWire
[07:35] <geoffb> uh, is that a torrent client, or gnutella?
[07:35] <geoffb> no, wait, "now with bittorrent support", it's all good
[07:35] <Rob-West> how to i make it see my other files
[07:35] <Rob-West> cuz imma be pissed if i gotta start over
[07:36] <geoffb> Rob-West: look for preferences/settings regarding where it saves / looks for downloads by default.
[07:36] <geoffb> [17:33]  <geoffb> Rob-West: when switching to another torrent client, if it starts again at 0%, then look for ways to make it find the stuff you've already downloaded. Sometimes they will have different defautl destination dirs, and you might need to re-arrange the settings to make it play nice with what you've already retrieved.
[07:37] <Rob-West> ok
[07:37] <Rob-West> it took me 3 days to get this far
[07:38] <Rob-West> to move files to a different folder its going at 12MB a second
[07:38] <Rob-West> i want this speed for downloads
[07:38] <geoffb> Rob-West: do you have plenty of free disk space?
[07:38] <Rob-West> yea
[07:39] <Rob-West> 140 gigs total
[07:39] <Rob-West> 119GB free
[07:40] <moj0rising> Hi. Does anyone know if Ican install compiz via apt-get on Feisty?
[07:41] <stdin> moj0rising: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz
[07:41] <stdin> tho beryl may be easier to install
[07:41] <StingRay> Hi, stdin. :)
[07:42] <stdin> hey, StingRay :)
[07:42] <moj0rising> really? OK I'll take a look onw.
[07:42] <moj0rising> now
[07:42] <Rob-West> geoffb
[07:42] <moj0rising> easiest is best. I just want to try it out.
[07:42] <Rob-West> this better work
[07:42] <stdin> StingRay: what mad security problem do you want to solve today? :p
[07:42] <moj0rising> thanks, stdin
[07:43] <StingRay> :D, stdin
[07:43] <stdin> moj0rising: for beryl https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz
[07:43] <stdin> moj0rising: for beryl https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingBeryl
[07:43] <stdin> wrong link :p
[07:43] <StingRay> enough for today...Yesterday I went to bed too late :O
[07:43] <stdin> heh, I know the feeling
[07:43] <StingRay> I managed to resolve my problem, but terminal session to <IP_ADDRESS>:1001 and FreeNX
[07:44] <moj0rising> thanks again!
[07:44] <stdin> np :)
[07:44] <StingRay> stdin, the problem is that this situation is repeating for last 5 month too often
[07:45] <fignew> lol Rob, I have those download speeds :P
[07:45] <StingRay> :), however I will manage. I am just too new and have to read too much
[07:45] <stdin> StingRay: have you thought about using ssh instead of vnc?
[07:45] <StingRay> X11 forward?
[07:45] <stdin> yep
[07:45] <StingRay> stdin, I am running away from ssh and other users than me :D
[07:46] <Rob-West> geoffb thanks man
[07:46] <stdin> StingRay: ssh is the same as a user just logging in
[07:46] <Rob-West> this OWNS
[07:46] <StingRay> stdin, I made an autologin, so the user doesn't know his password
[07:46] <stdin> heh :p
[07:46] <geoffb> you're welcome Rob-West
[07:46] <vulcanius> anyone know how to get aptitude to show full version info (most recent/installed/etc) from the CLI?
[07:47] <vulcanius> also how to get it to show it by default
[07:47] <Rob-West> frostwire works better
[07:47] <stdin> vulcanius: use apt-cache policy PackageName
[07:47] <StingRay> stdin, kiosktool is a very good too indeed. I also locked gnome sessions in a very simple (maybe unprofessional way). I just locked .gnome* in the homedir :)
[07:47] <Rob-West> i moved the files to where frostwire save loaded the torrent and it said for the statys: RESUMING
[07:48] <vulcanius> thanks stdin
[07:48] <stdin> np
[07:48] <geoffb> Rob-West: then it will spend a while checking what you've got already and what it needs to get, then it will go off and get the rest of the download
[07:48] <stdin> StingRay: you really don't trust your users
[07:49] <StingRay> stdin, I caught them lying...
[07:49] <StingRay> then I put some kloggers and rdesktop...:D in fact I put Remote Administrator 2.2
[07:50] <stdin> StingRay: I suppose it's a good way to secure a public computer
[07:50] <StingRay> stdin, I could not get vnc properly working on :0.0
[07:53] <Search4Lancer> aarrgh I've finally got the display fixed but now my middle mouse button doesn't work!
[07:56] <Rob-West> geoffb its doing it now
[07:57] <geoffb> cool
[07:57] <geoffb> Search4Lancer: you've been tinkering around in xorg.conf? :-)
[07:58] <Jiong> ?
[07:58] <Search4Lancer> yes... my resolution got boned when my laptop shut off.... how I don't know...
[07:58] <Search4Lancer> but I've got the resolution fixed now
[07:58] <Search4Lancer> and the scroll area on my touchpad is even working now, too
[07:58] <Search4Lancer> but my middle mouse button no worky
[08:05] <jordo23> ANyone here run a 64 bit distro?
[08:05] <Rob-West> sup Jucato
[08:06] <Jucato> hi Rob-West
[08:06] <jordo23> Hey Jucato...
[08:06] <geoffb> Search4Lancer: what does the "Mouse" section in your xorg.conf look like (uh... someone know how to work pastebin?)
[08:06] <Rob-West> ok y did frostwire like scan the torrent then start ad 0
[08:06] <Jucato> hi
[08:06] <Rob-West> at*
[08:07] <geoffb> Rob-West: when a torrent client starts work on a new download, it pre-allocates all the space it needs in files of the same name as those it's downloading
[08:07] <stdin> !pastebin
[08:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:07] <geoffb> then it just fills them in with the real thing bit-by-bit as they come down
[08:07] <Rob-West> well it got to 35% in scanning then started at 0%
[08:07] <geoffb> the files look like the real thing, but you can't tell what you have, what you haven't without working through and checking them chunk-by-chunk
[08:07] <geoffb> that's what it's doing
[08:08] <geoffb> grrrr, I don't like that
[08:08] <geoffb> stdin: thanks
[08:08] <stdin> :)
[08:08] <geoffb> Rob-West: did you copy or move the files into the new location?
[08:09] <Rob-West> yes
[08:09] <geoffb> which?
[08:09] <Rob-West> to my frostwire download location
[08:09] <geoffb> did you move, or copy?
[08:09] <Rob-West> move
[08:09] <geoffb> bummer!
[08:10] <Rob-West> y
[08:10] <geoffb> tis business of transferring a torrent from one client to another can be tricky...
[08:10] <rga> hello all
[08:10] <geoffb> ok, dig around in the destination dir, see if it's created a second set of files, or if there's only the one set
[08:10] <geoffb> hey rga
[08:10] <stdin> hmm, anyone have a tip on how to use less or cat on a file starting with a - ?
[08:10] <rga> hi geoff
[08:11] <geoffb> rga: escape the '-' with a backslash...
[08:11] <stdin> I've tried quoting in " and ' and even \-
[08:11] <Rob-West> theres just 1 set
[08:11] <geoffb> s/rga/stdin/
[08:11] <rga> needing help
[08:12] <rga> any idea regarding asterisk
[08:12] <geoffb> sorry stdin, I'd have said use the backslash....
[08:12] <stdin> geoffb: don't work, cat: invalid option -- R (file name is -Reff- )
[08:12] <geoffb> ah, ok, its interpreting it as a command line option
[08:12] <geoffb> there's a way to say "no more command line options, this next thing is a filename".... now...
[08:12] <stdin> geoffb: I've tried 'cat \-Reff\- ' but no good
[08:12] <geoffb> I wonder what it is...!
[08:13] <rga> any1 with asterisk knowledge.....?
[08:13] <stdin> geoffb: ahh, you reminded me of it, it's 'cat -- -Reff-' :D thanks
[08:13] <geoffb> stdin: try "more -- -Reff"
[08:13] <geoffb> snap!
[08:13] <Jucato> stdin: how about cat "-Reff-"?
[08:14] <stdin> Jucato: tried that, didn't work, even tried cat '-Reff-'
[08:14] <Jucato> ah... :(
[08:14] <stdin> Jucato: but got it now, so it works :)
[08:14] <geoffb> Jucato: because the filename begins with something that looks like a command line option, it's getting foncused. Using the '--' (dash-dash) signals to the shell "end of options", and that the next thing is a filename
[08:14] <stdin> Jucato: nees 'cat -- -Reff-'
[08:15] <stdin> s/nees/needs/
[08:15] <geoffb> rga: I know a ~little~ bit about asterisk... try me....
[08:15] <Jucato> aah good to now..
[08:15] <geoffb> fine, don't then...!
[08:15] <geoffb> :-)
[08:15] <Rob-West> this sucks
[08:15] <Rob-West> now my torrent is going slow
[08:16] <Rob-West> ill fight with bitttorrent
[08:16] <Rob-West> brb
[08:16] <moj0rising> OK. I tried to install beryl on Feisty. It is not in the repositories like the docs say. Weird.
[08:17] <moj0rising> I tried adding some repros sound in some other areas but they don't support feisty.
[08:17] <geoffb> Search4Lancer: how you doing with your mouse thing?
[08:17] <Rob-West> ill try bittorrent
[08:17] <stdin> moj0rising: there isn't a reop for feisty, just use the edgy ones, they work fine
[08:18] <stdin> moj0rising: add "deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main" to your sources.list
[08:18] <stdin> moj0rising: it has beryl version 0.1.4 :)
[08:19] <moj0rising> Cool. That shouldn't hirt anything?
[08:19] <moj0rising> hurt, I mean.
[08:19] <stdin> moj0rising: I'm running feisty with beryl, works here :)
[08:19] <moj0rising> awesome. I'm so excited!
[08:20] <stdin> as you should be :p
[08:20] <Rob-West> it sayd bittorrent is unknown
[08:27] <Rob-West> bittorrent wont load now
[08:37] <Rob-West> rebooting doesnt fix my issue
[08:51] <makuseru> !aiglx
[08:51] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[09:00] <jordo23> Jucato:  How do you configure buffering through Kaffeine.....I am trying to play a video stream and it buffers the first 15 seconds, stops, then buffers the next 15 seconds, stops, etc.
[09:00] <Jucato> jordo23: sorry, I don't know
[09:11] <thedudewhodoesth> .::Torrart Radio::. tune in @ http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000/
[09:13] <Jucato> thedudewhodoesth: what's that supposed to be?
[09:35] <zeekstarr> how do I do transparent menus?
[09:52] <Hikaru79> Hi, anyone here>
[09:52] <Hikaru79> *?
[09:53] <makuseru> i am
[10:30] <jtmoney> hey guys, i'm on a notebook... how do i configure power options, that is, different power profiles (plugged in, on battery, etc.) and things like when i shut the lid it suspends to ram?
[10:49] <aldin> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/avahi/libavahi-common3_0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[10:49] <aldin> will it work later
[10:49] <Tm_T> aldin: Do apt-get update
[10:49] <aldin> i did update than sudo apt-get -d upgrade
[10:50] <dennis_> i can use my usb mouse + keyboard only after plugging the usb device out and in. can anyone help me solving this problem?
[10:50] <aldin> all went well but few of them wont
[10:50] <Tm_T> aldin: Yup, try again.
[10:50] <aldin> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/avahi/libavahi-common-data_0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[10:50] <aldin> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/avahi/libavahi-common3_0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[10:50] <aldin> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/avahi/libavahi-client3_0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[10:50] <aldin> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/avahi/libavahi-glib1_0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[10:50] <aldin> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/avahi/libavahi-core4_0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[10:50] <Tm_T> !paste
[10:50] <ubotu> paste is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste)
[10:50] <aldin> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/avahi/avahi-daemon_0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[10:50] <aldin> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/avahi/libavahi-compat-libdnssd1_0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[10:50] <aldin> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/avahi/libavahi-qt3-1_0.6.13-2ubuntu2.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[10:50] <aldin> sorz
[10:50] <aldin> sory
[10:50] <aldin> but only those wont
[10:51] <Tm_T> No prob.
[10:51] <aldin> i know i apologized
[10:51] <aldin> sorry again
[10:51] <aldin> where is tilda on us keyb
[10:51] <aldin> ~
[10:51] <Tm_T> Those got upgraded lately, I recommend to keep trying with update & upgrade
[10:51] <aldin> ?
[10:51] <Tm_T> aldin: Sorry can't remember, haven't been using US keyb for ages.
[10:52] <aldin> ok, i am bosnian
[10:52] <Tm_T> Heh, I'm finnish.
[10:53] <Tm_T> aldin: I think with google you'll find images of us layout.
[10:53] <aldin> Tm_T: ok, have some probs with ba kbd with beryl..., saw something xmodmap
[10:53] <aldin> ba -> bosnian
[10:54] <Tm_T> I don't touch beryl, I have enough unstable apps already. ;)
[10:54] <aldin> Tm_T: ok
[10:54] <aldin> gotta go see ya
[10:54] <ramanuj> i had installed ubuntu 6.06 on my laptop
[10:54] <Tm_T> Bye.
[10:55] <ramanuj> i have nvidia display but it is showing vesa card
[10:55] <Tm_T> !nvidia
[10:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:55] <ramanuj> when i installed nvidia driver then some lines are coming on display
[10:55] <Tm_T> ramanuj: Check if that helps.
[10:55] <ramanuj> i saw all mam
[10:55] <ramanuj> man
[10:55] <Tm_T> Ok.
[10:55] <ramanuj> but it the lines are coming
[10:56] <ramanuj> previously i was using mandriva 2007
[10:56] <ramanuj> there x server was automaticaly taking video driver as nvidia
[10:56] <ramanuj> any one can help plz
[10:56] <Tm_T> ramanuj: One thing..
[10:56] <ramanuj> yea
[10:57] <Tm_T> grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:59] <ramanuj> i should paste the out put here ?
[10:59] <Tm_T> ramanuj: if multiple lines, use pastebin
[11:00] <Tm_T> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:00] <Tm_T> Anyway, I have to go, good luck with it. ->
[11:00] <ramanuj> ok thak alot
[11:02] <ramanuj> pasted
[11:02] <filip_> how do i do the command gksudo in kubuntu?
[11:03] <thoreauputic> filip_: try kdesu instead
[11:04] <lupine_85> filip_: what's wrong with kdesu ?
[11:05] <filip_> kdesu worked..
[11:05] <filip_> but now i cant use "gedit"
[11:05] <lupine_85> then use kate instead of gedit?
[11:05] <filip_> how do i do that command in kde?
[11:05] <filip_> ok
[11:09] <filip_> shit... the linux dc++ i got from ubuntuforum wiki doesnt work...
[11:10] <filip_> does anyone know were i can get a working version of a dc++ clone?
[11:18] <jtmoney^> hey guys, i'm on a notebook... how do i configure power options, that is, different power profiles (plugged in, on battery, etc.) and things like when i shut the lid it suspends to ram?
[11:24] <casted> Hi, what package do i need for kdialog?
[11:26] <lupine_85> packages.ubuntu.com will tell you :)
[11:27] <Jucato> casted: no need to install kdebase, afaik. can't you run kdialog from the command line?
[11:27] <VSpike> I hate Linux sound systems right now :/
[11:28] <casted> Well, fixing this for someone else. I think he is using ubuntu, but kdialog is not installed (i asked him too run from the console)
[11:28] <Jucato> casted: yeah, it won't be available since he's using GNOME
[11:29] <casted> He is using amarok though. Does amarok depend on kdebase?
[11:30] <Jucato> kdelibs, but not kdebase, afaik
[11:30] <casted> kk, thanks
[11:33] <chuen> Hi, can anyone give me a heads up on setting up my printer? I'm using the guie, but am getting  an error msg saying that either the driver(s) don't exist or I don't have perimission to use them.  Are the installed with the original install?
[11:43] <Balsamic_Chicken>  I only participte 4 GI space for the Ubantu, and now it's complaining don't have enough space, only 156 Mb left, what should I do??
[11:49] <nuscly> Balsamic_Chicken: remove not needed packages, like games
[11:56] <Balsamic_Chicken> nscly thx
[11:57] <animimotus> hi
[11:57] <animimotus> in my Kubuntu I can't drop files on a virgin DVD-RW. How can active UDF drag and burn, please ?
[11:58] <animimotus> like on a floppy disk
[11:58] <Jucato> animimotus: you know my answer :)
[11:58] <nuscly> animimotus: use K3b
[12:00] <animimotus> Jucato: oh, a translation problem :p
[12:00] <animimotus> sorry
[12:00] <filip_> is there anything like bulletproof ftp for kubuntu?
[12:01] <dwidmann> kbear, kasablanca, kftpgrabber?
[12:02] <Jucato> konqueror?
[12:03] <filip_> how do i use konqueror like that?
[12:03] <Jucato> ftp://url
[12:04] <filip_> but what i want to do is to share my own files
[12:04] <Jucato> hm...
[12:09] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[12:09] <rysiek|pl> guys, got a problem here (asked on #ubuntu already, no answer though) - suddenly there are 300+ directories on my / (ext3), which are shown by ls -l  as: ?--------- ?  ?    ?     ?       ? name
[12:10] <rysiek|pl> wtf?!
[12:13] <adaptr> rysiek|pl: fsck
[12:14] <rysiek|pl> adaptr: done already, "filesystem clean" O_o'
[12:14] <adaptr> rysiek|pl: then something ran which created those directories
[12:17] <adaptr> rysiek|pl: arte you sure it is mounted as ext3 and not ext2 ?
[12:17] <rysiek|pl> adaptr: these are dirs lik /usr/share/perl5
[12:17] <rysiek|pl> hmm
[12:17] <rysiek|pl> yeah, I am pretty sure
[12:17] <rysiek|pl> yep, mtab says it's ext3
[12:17] <adaptr> rysiek|pl: that's completely different from what you posted before - please be as literal as you can be when reporting errors
[12:17] <rysiek|pl> where's the difference?
[12:17] <adaptr> rysiek|pl: amd there is no way you could *see* /usr/share/perl5 as a root directory
[12:17] <adaptr> rysiek|pl: and it's a link, anyway - just delete it
[12:17] <rysiek|pl> adaptr: I said they're *on* my root partition
[12:17] <adaptr> rysiek|pl: so how do you know they're not supposed ot be there ?
[12:17] <rysiek|pl> adaptr: man. /usr/share/perl, usr/share/perl5 - those *used to be* directories.
[12:17] <rysiek|pl> adaptr: they *are* supposed to be there. but *not* as ?----- ? ?...
[12:17] <filip_> how do i login as root to run a program that demands that
[12:17] <filip_> ?
[12:17] <rysiek|pl> filip_: sudo program
[12:18] <filip_> thers no graphic ways?
[12:18] <adaptr> rysiek|pl: did you run badblocks on the root partition ?
[12:18] <rysiek|pl> adaptr: besides, some programs can't find they're files (like... debconf, dpkg, aptitude, etc.), and guess where those files should be? yep, in those dirs
[12:18] <rysiek|pl> adaptr: no, I did not
[12:18] <rysiek|pl> adaptr: I'll do it now
[12:18] <adaptr> well, that woul dbe step one
[12:18] <rysiek|pl> adaptr: thanks, on it
[12:18] <adaptr> you'll need to do it read-only, of course
[12:19] <rysiek|pl> yeah, I'll probably just run kubuntu live
[12:20] <rysiek|pl> well, there goes five days of setting my laptop up...
[12:22] <Jucato> filip_: "kdesu <program>" if <program> is a graphical app
[12:22] <rysiek|pl> filip_: kdesu program :)
[12:23] <animimotus> grep burning /etc/group <------- does return anything. It's normal ? When I burn a DVD the files belongs to root:root
[12:23] <a_> how i can run (install) jdk  java devlopment kit on ubuntu
[12:23] <animimotus> so I must add my users?
[12:23] <adaptr> !jdk | a_
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <adaptr> pfffrt.. silly bot
[12:24] <a_> java devolpment kit
[12:24] <a_> i have bin file and want to run it
[12:24] <animimotus> adaptr: silly command :p
[12:25] <adaptr> animimotus: oh no sirra, it was well-conceived and immaculately executed!
[12:26] <adaptr> a_: make the file executable and run it
[12:26] <adaptr> a_: you'll have to do this as root, most likely
[12:26] <a_> how to make it executable?
[12:27] <rysiek|pl> chmod +x filename
[12:27] <adaptr> a_: if you want complete, 100% hand-holding (you sissy!): chmod a+x filename && sudo ./filename
[12:27] <a_> sorry not get what u said
[12:28] <a_> can tell me step by step
[12:31] <rysiek|pl> a_: open konsole and type in: cd /the/dir/with/the/binfile; chmod a+x the_name_of_the_bin_file; sudo ./the_name_of_the_bin_file
[12:32] <a_> ok wait plz
[12:32] <rysiek|pl> nop
[12:32] <daumantas> hi anybody who loves kubuntu ;>
[12:33] <larson9999> nope. we all hate kubuntu
[12:35] <daumantas> hehe
[12:35] <daumantas> bullshit ;>
[12:36] <disposable> when booting, i get 'Attempting manual resume' and 'attempt to access beyond end of device'. then the kernel panics. how do i make it NOT to resume from hibernation but to boot normally?
[12:36] <animimotus> grep burning /etc/group <------- does it return somethings ?
[12:37] <mots> are there any packages for kdevelop 3.4?
[12:39] <a_> rysiekjlp  it is give me install.sfx.4404 file in same directory
[12:39] <rysiek|pl> ?
[12:40] <DeMolay> animimotus: not in my PC
[12:40] <rysiek|pl> mots: apti-cache search kdevelop :)
[12:40] <a_> i get file in same dirctory called install.sfx.44404
[12:41] <mots> rysiek|pl: theres only 3.3 here
[12:41] <animimotus> DeMolay: ok. Because the files I burned belongs to root:root instead to my user. I search the problem
[12:41] <rysiek|pl> mots: in that case no, I suppose
[12:41] <rysiek|pl> a_: I have completely *no* knowledge on java
[12:42] <a_> how to insta java run time
[12:42] <rysiek|pl> a_: I just told you what the other's told you to do in a more clear way
[12:42] <rysiek|pl> a_: search on help.ubuntu.com
[12:42] <a_> u can go to www.java.com and download manully the java runtime
[01:04] <danielches> hi
[01:04] <danielches> how to i get kaffine to play wmv files?
[01:05] <Jucato> danielches: you need to install w32codecs
[01:05] <danielches> ok
[01:05] <Jucato> !w32codecs | danielches
[01:05] <ubotu> danielches: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:05] <danielches> thx
[01:07] <danielches> what program can easily convert them to ogg format?
[01:07] <Jucato> that I don't know...
[01:10] <danielches> ok
[01:10] <a_> what is su? do su is command line?
[01:11] <Jucato> !su
[01:12] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:12] <a_> thank u
[01:13] <a_> bu when type su ask me about password when write it tell me not authorization
[01:13] <Jucato> a_: don't use su. use sudo.
[01:14] <a_> ok
[01:14] <a_> http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting
[01:15] <a_> this site tell me how to install java run time
[01:15] <Jucato> !java | a
[01:15] <ubotu> a: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:15] <Jucato> a_: you can install java from the repositories ^^^^
[01:38] <vluid> hello
[01:38] <vluid> hello?
[01:38] <manom> hi!
[01:38] <vluid> need some help.. ... ..
[01:39] <manom> well...i'll try my best...
[01:39] <vluid> thanks, it is about kopete
[01:39] <manom> shoot!
[01:39] <vluid> i like it very much, but it doest really support irc, or am i wrong?
[01:40] <manom> uf, I don't think so (not sure)
[01:40] <manom> have you tried konversation?
[01:40] <vluid> i am using gaim now, but with gaim i got encoding problems
[01:41] <vluid> konversation?
[01:41] <vluid> have to check
[01:41] <manom> hey!
[01:41] <manom> konversation is the KDE irc program BUT kopete seems to allow irc
[01:41] <Jucato> Kopete can be used for IRC. but it's IRC features are very poor compared to real IRC programs
[01:42] <vluid> ok, konversation is only for irc. im also using icq et jabber.
[01:42] <Jucato> icq, jabber, yahoo, msn, g-talk = IM (Instant Messaging)
[01:42] <vluid> ill stick with gaim, but i got these weird encoding problems
[01:43] <Jucato> like I said, Kopete can do IRC too
[01:43] <vluid> i mean, i _would_ stick
[01:45] <vluid> thanks, ill try kopete again
[01:45] <manom> see you!
[01:45] <vluid> ok
[01:48] <animimotus> please, where can I find the last burn log?
[01:49] <animimotus> the DVD burn was good but the verification has failed
[01:51] <vluid> im back again!
[01:51] <vluid> with kopete i cannot connect to any irc server
[01:53] <manom> ??? ill try myself
[01:53] <vluid> thanks, perhaps im too clumsy
[01:54] <manom> what problems did you had
[01:56] <vluid> i added a new irc-account and then i added a server irc.ubuntu.com (default for gaim), then i tried to connect. i chose #kubuntu as channel. it tried to connect for 3-4 min then i broke up.
[01:56] <vluid> had same problem before
[01:56] <manom> :|
[01:57] <vluid> ok, i gave kopete a try, because i had these encoding problems with gaim.
[01:59] <manom> hi vluid
[02:00] <bronze> Good morning.  What file do I have to modify to allow root logins on the main X-windows login?  (20+years *NIX user, Yes. i know the risks :-)
[02:00] <menom> hi
[02:00] <menom> vluid: i'm now from kopete
[02:01] <Jucato> !sudo | bronze
[02:01] <ubotu> bronze: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:01] <Jucato> bronze: that page has instructions
[02:02] <menom> vluid: :) i followed your instructions and everything worked
[02:03] <vluid> strange --..--
[02:03] <manom> what version of kopete do you have?
[02:03] <vluid> 0.12.3
[02:03] <vluid> standard ubuntu
[02:03] <manom> i've got the same
[02:03] <vluid> ill try again
[02:03] <manom> ok
[02:04] <manom> i'm sorry but i have no clues
[02:04] <tristano> hello, i want to connect a pc with kubuntu and a pc with windows trhough samba. pcs see them (pinging), but in both machines that don't see the network. someone can help me?
[02:05] <tristano> (i'm sorry for my poor english)
[02:07] <manom> tristano: first you have to install samba-server package
[02:07] <manom> tristano: then go to kcontrol and configure it.
[02:09] <vluid> @ manom: it worked now. perhaps i misspelled something.
[02:09] <vluid> thanks
[02:10] <manom> fine!!!
[02:10] <manom> see you!
[02:11] <tristano> manom, i'm a stupid... i've installed smb4k but not samba :S
[02:11] <powerfox> Hi. I have got some problems with vpn connection via pptp-linux (pon). May somebody help me?
[02:11] <manom> i had similar problems xD.
[02:12] <manom> ok
[02:12] <manom> bye bye guys and girls
[02:12] <manom> !!
[02:12] <dmial> sorry for my english :-) hello, had anybody install tv-tuner Beholder 409FM on Kubuntu 6.10?
[02:13] <dmial> it works, but there are rather bad signal translation, then in windows
[02:14] <dmial> my tuner based on saa7135, and I use modprobe saa7136 tuner=67 card =63 in /etc/modules
[02:14] <dmial> & so I use cable TV in PAl-format
[02:14] <piotrek> kubuntu is little unefficient why?

[02:16] <Jucato> ??
[02:20] <tristano> manom, now?
[02:25] <pboban> hi. anyone knows which package contains su-to-root? i installed kvpnc but cant start it without this :(
[02:26] <bronze> sudo su -
[02:27] <bronze> or is that not what you need? (it gets you to  root in a shell)
[02:28] <MetaMorfoziS> hola! If somebody have 3minutes for me, to try something in firefox, please highlight me
[02:28] <MetaMorfoziS> not 3, 1.5;)
[02:29] <gnomefreak> MetaMorfoziS: what version of ff?
[02:30] <MetaMorfoziS> 2.0*
[02:30] <MetaMorfoziS> please, try out this: open ff, save a file, and open the download manager (the built in)
[02:30] <MetaMorfoziS> and click on "open"
[02:30] <MetaMorfoziS> the open  link, to that file that you have downloaded
[02:30] <MetaMorfoziS> is that work for you?
[02:30] <MetaMorfoziS> (is it opens the file?
[02:31] <MetaMorfoziS> )
[02:31] <gnomefreak> MetaMorfoziS: it does for me but im not on 2.0 :(
[02:31] <MetaMorfoziS> hm, have you an idea, aboutwhy not working for me? (on both machines that i have use)
[02:31] <MetaMorfoziS> in strace
[02:31] <gnomefreak> MetaMorfoziS: someone else had same issue i asked them to open a bug report but i dont know if he ever did
[02:31] <MetaMorfoziS> it says permission denied
[02:31] <MetaMorfoziS> but why?
[02:32] <MetaMorfoziS> hmm, wherE?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> MetaMorfoziS: your on edgy?
[02:32] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[02:32] <gnomefreak> MetaMorfoziS: launchpad.net
[02:32] <MetaMorfoziS> kubuntu edgy and firefox 2.0*
[02:32] <gnomefreak> not sure why you are getting permissions denied unless one of the folders is restricted permissions
[02:33] <MetaMorfoziS> no, because if i save a fiel to my desktop
[02:33] <MetaMorfoziS> why that is denied for firefox?
[02:33] <MetaMorfoziS> and, i can open files from desktop (and i can save)
[02:33] <tristano> i'm trying to connect 2 pcs, one with windows, the other with kubuntu, through samba. now windows sees the kubuntu host, but isn't possible to see shared folders, i have an error that says: user could not have authorizations to use network resorce
[02:34] <moon-xsp> have somebody in china
[02:34] <MetaMorfoziS> launchpad search fields are big crap
[02:34] <MetaMorfoziS> i get results from all other apps but not firefox.
[02:34] <MetaMorfoziS> braghumprotflmao!
[02:47] <zombiedog> i love monkeys
[02:47] <zombiedog> who loves monkeys
[02:47] <Dasnipa`> me too
[02:47] <zombiedog> heheh
[02:47] <zombiedog> realy
[02:47] <zombiedog> u llike dogs too
[02:47] <zombiedog> ?
[02:47] <Dasnipa`> only the ones that fling poo
[02:47] <zombiedog> lol
[02:47] <zombiedog> me too
[02:48] <zombiedog> who is in uses runescape
[02:48] <Jucato> !offtopic
[02:48] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:48] <zombiedog> who in here uses rs
[02:48] <MetaMorfoziS> ;)
[02:48] <Dasnipa`> stupid kiddie zombie
[02:50] <eMaX_> hi all
[02:51] <eMaX_> I have a problem with firefox on kubuntu: whenever I open a page that contains a java applet, ff sementation faults if run as non-root
[02:51] <eMaX_> strace on ff shows that shortly before the crash he reads ~/.java/deployment/deployment.properties which has about the same content (except timestamps) as for root
[02:52] <eMaX_> AMAOF he cleanly removes his lock file before crashing
[02:53] <eilker> !es
[02:53] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:57] <Prabhu-> hi, can i configure NAT server on if i have a single n/w card on the m/c? and if that pc is using is a gateway to connect to net?
[02:58] <Prabhu-> any help?
[02:58] <JOSF> I never use a playlist. I prefer direct double-click on entries in my media-library. Is there a way to realize this with AmaroK ? Currently, when double-clicking an entry it gets added to the playlist but not played immediatly.
[02:58] <JOSF> Or, alternativley, is there any good audio player for KDE besides Noatun,Amarok,Juk ?
[02:58] <JOSF> I dislike all of them.
[03:10] <beels15> kubuntu.de
[03:10] <beels15> hallo
[03:10] <Prabhu-> any help in configuring a NAT/Proxy using a single NIC on a ubuntu box?
[03:10] <beels15> www.kubuntu.de
[03:10] <beels15> kubuntu.de
[03:11] <beels15> in deutsch
[03:11] <Jucato> !de
[03:11] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:14] <JuJuBee> Where do I turn off focus stealing prevention?
[03:15] <JuJuBee> Found it. never mind.
[03:15] <tristano> i'm trying to connect 2 pcs, one with windows, the other with kubuntu, through samba. now windows sees the kubuntu host, but isn't possible to see shared folders, i have an error that says: user could not have authorizations to use network resource
[03:15] <JOSF> JuJuBee: where was it ?
[03:15] <JuJuBee> thanks
[03:16] <JuJuBee> Under window behavior...Control Center
[03:16] <JOSF> tristano: If you do not need Samba you could try with Avahi and Zeroconf and ftp (it's more easy)
[03:16] <JOSF> JuJuBee: thanks
[03:16] <Jucato> you can also set it in the Window Menu (Alt+F3 or right-click on the title bar) -> Advanced -> Special Window Settings...
[03:17] <JuJuBee> Control Center -> Desktop -> Window Behavior -> Advanced Tab...
[03:18] <tristano> josf, i don't know avahi and zeroconf
[03:20] <JOSF> tristano: It is intended for automatic (zero) configuration of a network. If you just want to xfer files between two machines, then you could use it.l
[03:20] <JOSF> For the Windows side you need Apples Bonjour package
[03:21] <JOSF> check it out on wikipedia
[03:21] <JOSF> they have more links. It is integrated with KDE
[03:21] <JOSF> Check the Network settings for KDE
[03:23] <tristano> JOSF: and for share internet connection on a lan with a linux server?
[03:24] <eMaX_> anyone here ever had problems w/ the java plugin for firefox?
[03:24] <JOSF> It's all available under avahi and zeroconf. Two demons you install on the Linux side. But if you already have configured DHCP or have static IPs, then why don't *just* use an FTP server on the Linux side ?
[03:25] <JOSF> However, with AVAHI and Zeroconf you get Printer sharing too
[03:25] <JOSF> check it out on Google. It's a five minute setup
[03:25] <tristano> JOSF: ok, thanks
[03:28] <wilman> hey i want to get my audacity going
[03:29] <wilman> it does playback
[03:29] <wilman> but i  can't seem to record
[03:37] <tristano> JOSF: i don't find nothing on google on homto configuring with zeroconf and avahi!
[03:37] <JOSF> tristano: wait a moment
[03:37] <tristano> JOSF: thanks
[03:38] <JOSF> tristano: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218630
[03:39] <tristano> ok
[03:40] <wilman> ubotu: record
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about record - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <wilman> ubotu: recording
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recording - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <Jucato> !ubotu
[03:42] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:47] <compilerwriter1> Has anyone successfully gotten a mud up and running on kubuntu?
[03:49] <Tido> a mud?
[03:49] <compilerwriter1> yes a multiuser dungeon.
[03:49] <compilerwriter1> I know I am dating myself here.
[03:49] <Jucato> MUD = Multi User Dungeon
[03:49] <amedeo> qualuno italiano
[03:49] <Tido> haven't seen one of those since I was a little kid :o
[03:50] <Jucato> !it | amedeo
[03:50] <ubotu> amedeo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:50] <amedeo> chi mi aiuta in italiano?
[03:50] <Tido> I can't say I've done it, but I remember looking at a mud package a long time ago and it being very well documented
[03:50] <gnomefreak> !it
[03:50] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:51] <compilerwriter1> Tido a friend of mine has just gotten himself access to a static ip and is itching to relive our college days.
[03:52] <compilerwriter1> Tido do you have any idea which mudlib and driver you were examining?
[03:52] <Tido> idk compilerwriter1, let me see if I can remember
[03:52] <Tido> it was one of the more widly used and known ones
[03:52] <Xeakin> i need to talk with some expert in kubuntu
[03:52] <compilerwriter1> Jucato do you have any input on the matter?
[03:52] <Xeakin> :P
[03:53] <compilerwriter1> we all have some knowledge xeakin
[03:53] <Jucato> compilerwriter1: sorry. none...
[03:53] <Xeakin> great!
[03:53] <compilerwriter1> Your just old enough to know what I am talking about.
[03:53] <Xeakin> ok i have a problem that is really freaking me out
[03:53] <compilerwriter1> Xeakin cut to the chase.
[03:53] <Xeakin> im really new into linux
[03:53] <Xeakin> and i tried like 6 distribution already
[03:54] <compilerwriter1> We were all new once xeakin
[03:54] <Xeakin> all live, and with all i get the same error
[03:54] <Xeakin> SQUASHFS error: unable to read page block.....................
[03:54] <Xeakin> when the cd is booting
[03:54] <Xeakin> ive searched in a lot of pages, i check de hdd and the memory, and all the pc looking for some hard error, but everything looks fine
[03:55] <Xeakin> and i have it running in vmware
[03:55] <Xeakin> so i really dunno what can be :S
[03:55] <Xeakin> do u guys have some clue, abut what can it be?
[03:55] <compilerwriter1> Xeakin that is a little more for someone above my pay grade.  If everything is working though perhaps it is and optional thing that something in the livecd always checks for.
[03:56] <Tido> compilerwriter1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LPMud
[03:56] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[03:56] <compilerwriter1> Thanks tido
[03:57] <Tido> compilerwriter1: more specifically: http://www.bearnip.com/lars/proj/ldmud.html
[03:57] <Xeakin> so im screw :(
[03:58] <balint> hi, how can i save the modified xorg.conf file?
[03:58] <wilman> ctrl x
[03:58] <wilman> and answer yes
[03:59] <wilman> how to test if my soundcars id working properly, recording
[04:00] <BluesKaj> balint, "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"... click on save
[04:00] <balint> omg its unbelievable, my internet is always interrupted on linux, but only on linux :(:(
[04:00] <balint> well bb i have to burn up my ISP
[04:00] <BluesKaj> or whatever edit program you use kde is usuak=lly kate
[04:00] <BluesKaj> usually
[04:02] <BluesKaj> asks a question but doesn't wait a reasonable time for an answer
[04:03] <VSpike> IIRC MudOS is the best supported and most active Driver
[04:04] <tristano> how to remote-controlling linux in windows?
[04:05] <Tido> tristano: check out either VNC or FreeNX
[04:05] <BluesKaj> hey abattoir
[04:05] <tristano> Tido: ok
[04:05] <abattoir> hi BluesKaj
[04:05] <VSpike> compilerwriter1: check this old thread http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.mud.lp/browse_thread/thread/9c5d33c4a44c9ee0/dc687cc50ad037fd?lnk=st&q=author%3Acarlyle-clarke+mud&rnum=1#dc687cc50ad037fd
[04:05] <Tido> anyone know a graphical gui for subversion?
[04:06] <BluesKaj> I need to purge clamav but it won't go away , nor will it update so i can remove it ...any suggestions ?
[04:06] <Jucato> Tido: kdesvn?
[04:06] <Tido> thx Jucato
[04:06] <VSpike> compilerwriter1: http://www.mudconnector.com/
[04:06] <sleepy495> is xgl/compiz worth installing on dapper 6.06?
[04:07] <eMaX_> wow
[04:07] <rasputin1575> hello peeps, can anyone help me configure my network - kubuntu 6.10, pls PM
[04:08] <eMaX_> the following took me 1 hour to find out: firefox crashes consistently when visiting a page containing a java applet when the following setting is made: user_pref("general.useragent.override", "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Firefox/1.5; Linux)");
[04:08] <Tido> sleepy495: it can be fun, it burns a little more resources, but a lot of people enjoy it - however you can get along without just as well
[04:10] <compilerwriter1> Thanks VSpike
[04:10] <VSpike> compilerwriter1: np :)
[04:10] <henrique> #mossoro
[04:17] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: did you figure out your network problem
[04:18] <rasputin1575> no man...  its a headache
[04:18] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: whats the problem
[04:18] <rasputin1575> i can connect for a few mins b4 i lose it
[04:18] <rasputin1575> right.. well i can use the internet for a few mins and then i lose it..
[04:19] <rasputin1575> am looking for someone (kind enough :) ) to share the file /etc/network/interfaces so that i can have a glance on how its done
[04:19] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: I PMed you
[04:20] <BluesKaj> gents I need to purge clamav but it won't go away , nor will it update so i can remove it ...any suggestions ?
[04:20] <rasputin1575> yup bonbon, i replied
[04:20] <kristyon> can anyone tell me where the config file is for video devices?
[04:20] <kristyon> as in v4l
[04:21] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: I didnt get anything
[04:21] <rasputin1575> ooops.. hold on lemme try again
[04:21] <BluesKaj> neither adept nor synaptic or even apt/aptitude can make clamav go away cuz it's badly broken
[04:21] <rasputin1575> anything ?
[04:22] <BluesKaj> and it can't be fixed
[04:22] <bonbonthejon> BluesKaj: try reinstalling and then removinf
[04:22] <Jucato> what error message?
[04:22] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: no
[04:22] <BluesKaj> bonbonthejon, err i did all that :(
[04:24] <rasputin1575> not sure whats happening.. am getting urs though
[04:24] <bonbonthejon> I dont think I am identified
[04:25] <rasputin1575> ok hold on, will send u a link (left it on a forum) ..details are there
[04:25] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: I cant view web pages
[04:26] <mustasj> Hi all. I am thinking about installing kubuntu, I am curios if it recognice my sound card, it requires the Intel HD Audio module. Output from lspci : 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller . Any idea if this is supported in 6.10? It was not supported in dapper. If not, where can I find a kernel config for ubuntu/kubuntu kernels? Thanks
[04:26] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: just tell me the problem
[04:26] <rasputin1575> ok thing is i have 2 laptops.. one with windows and the other with kubuntu
[04:26] <rasputin1575> got a rooter (no wireless), just plain old cable
[04:27] <rasputin1575> when cable is connected to windows, everything works fine
[04:27] <rasputin1575> but when i connect it to kubuntu's, it works for a while
[04:27] <rasputin1575> now i guess i must have screwed up the configuration on /etc/network/interfaces
[04:27] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: have you edited it?
[04:28] <rasputin1575> yup.. big time.. everytime i google it, i get something different, so its doing my head in
[04:28] <oceanstream> What's the difference between edgy and feisty?
[04:28] <bonbonthejon> oceanstream: edgy is the most recently released, feisty is still in development
[04:29] <Jucato> !feisty
[04:29] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[04:29] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: I should pastebin this, but I cant
[04:29] <oceanstream> ah, thank you.
[04:29] <oceanstream> clearly i am noob to *buntu.
[04:30] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: auto lo
[04:30] <rasputin1575> yeah go on
[04:30] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: iface lo inet loopback
[04:30] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: auto eth1
[04:30] <Jucato> oceanstream: we were all noobs once :)
[04:30] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: iface eth1 inet dhcp
[04:30] <rasputin1575> ok i have static instead
[04:30] <oceanstream> Jucato: yeah, but I get to be a noob all over again!  Slackware refuses to install on my laptop, so it's time to find a user-friendly distro. :)
[04:31] <Jucato> oceanstream: slack? then you're definitely not a noob :)
[04:31] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: well, does the router have DHCP?
[04:31] <oceanstream> Jucato: haha, but I've failed at using anything else - I'm kind of excited for package management and dependency tracking done by a program instead of by my brain :)
[04:32] <oceanstream> Jucato: the only linux I've actually been able to make run in the last 7 years or so is slackware.
[04:32] <rasputin1575> thats what i was told.. i just rang the provided...  i guess i need to change that to dhcp
[04:32] <rasputin1575> provider*
[04:32] <Jucato> well, knowledge that you gained will definitely still be useful, no matter the distro :)
[04:32] <gorganalmighty> oceanstream: slackware is one of the hardest distros to use, or so im told
[04:32] <Jucato> oceanstream: you are *definitely* *not* a noob :)
[04:32] <oceanstream> haha
[04:33] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: it is. it's the mother of all source based distros
[04:33] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: yeah, the ISP should give an IP to the router, the router should use DHCP to give IPs to the computers
[04:33] <Jucato> the oldest living distro as well
[04:33] <oceanstream> gorganalmighty: It can be a pain if you're not used to it - buliding everything from source w/o any real safety net.
[04:33] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: the windows box must be getting the ISP's IP, then kubuntu is left without
[04:33] <rasputin1575> cool <bonbon>.. since its dhcp , u think i need to fill out the details for address, netmask, network, bcast and gateway ?
[04:34] <gorganalmighty> is there no package management in slackware?
[04:34] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: the stuff I sent you should get an IP from DHCP
[04:34] <oceanstream> gorganalmighty: Well, there's an extremely limited set of package tools..
[04:34] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: I also use knetworkmanager, which is really nice
[04:34] <Jucato> Slackware packages are .tar.gz :D
[04:34] <oceanstream> gorganalmighty: Nothing even close to what ubuntu, debian, mandrake offer.
[04:34] <oceanstream> gorganalmighty: When I want a program, I download the source and compile.
[04:35] <gorganalmighty> hmmm... i think i'll stick with kubuntu thankyou! ;)
[04:35] <rasputin1575> cool mate, lemme have a go at that... will need to signout from here... am on windows right now
[04:35] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: ok, ill be here for a while
[04:35] <Jucato> anyway, slackware discussion getting -offtopic :)
[04:35] <oceanstream> hahah
[04:35] <rasputin1575> thx for ur help .. yeah i'll pop in later to let u know how it goes.. also just wondering , could there be a prb with my ethernet card ?
[04:35] <oceanstream> my bad :) - what's the name of the ubuntu package management system?
[04:35] <bonbonthejon> anyone know is I can disable TLS in konqueror
[04:35] <bonbonthejon> rasputin1575: I doubt it
[04:36] <rasputin1575> ok cheers... lemme try it now..
[04:36] <Jucato> bonbonthejon: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Crypto ?
[04:36] <gorganalmighty> oceanstream: dpkg
[04:36] <gorganalmighty> as ubuntu is debian
[04:36] <chronic1> how many of you guys use the Automatix2 script?
[04:36] <bonbonthejon> thanks Jucato
[04:37] <chronic1> i just started to read about it yesterday...and still don't know too much about it
[04:37] <Jucato> !automatix