[00:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- gary-wzl77, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1732 Abandoning ticket
[05:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- bzoltan, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1712 Successfully built
[06:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- alex-abreu mardy dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1727 Publishing
[06:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- alex-abreu mardy dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1727 Proposed pocket (yakkety/ubuntu-html5-theme, yakkety/webbrowser-app). Release pocket (vivid/ubuntu-html5-theme, vivid/webbrowser-app, xenial/ubuntu-html5-theme, xenial/webbrowser-app)
[06:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1788 Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/webbrowser-app). Successfully built (vivid/webbrowser-app, xenial/webbrowser-app)
[07:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/810 Currently building (xenial/webbrowser-app). Diff missing (xenial/qscintilla2, xenial/sip4). Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Successfully built (xenial/akonadi, xenial/analitza, xenial/appmenu-qt5, xenial/calibre, xenial/ciborium, xenial/fcitx-qt5, xenial/frameworkintegration, xenial/gammaray, xenial/gcin, xenial/gsettings-qt, xenial/hime, xenial/kdeclarative, xeni
[08:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/810 Diff missing (xenial/qscintilla2, xenial/sip4). Failed to build (xenial/maliit-framework, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Successfully built (xenial/akonadi, xenial/analitza, xenial/appmenu-qt5, xenial/calibre, xenial/ciborium, xenial/fcitx-qt5, xenial/frameworkintegration, xenial/gammaray, xenial/gcin, xenial/gsettings-qt, xenial/hime, xenial/kdeclarative, xenial/kwin, xenial/lib
[08:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- alextu, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1798 QA Signoff: Ready
[10:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/810 Currently building (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Diff missing (xenial/qscintilla2, xenial/sip4). Failed to build (xenial/maliit-framework). Successfully built (xenial/akonadi, xenial/analitza, xenial/appmenu-qt5, xenial/calibre, xenial/ciborium, xenial/fcitx-qt5, xenial/frameworkintegration, xenial/gammaray, xenial/gcin, xenial/gsettings-qt, xenial/hime, xenial/kdeclarative, xe
[10:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/810 Diff missing (xenial/qscintilla2, xenial/sip4). Failed to build (xenial/maliit-framework). Successfully built (xenial/akonadi, xenial/analitza, xenial/appmenu-qt5, xenial/calibre, xenial/ciborium, xenial/fcitx-qt5, xenial/frameworkintegration, xenial/gammaray, xenial/gcin, xenial/gsettings-qt, xenial/hime, xenial/kdeclarative, xenial/kwin, xenial/libqtxdg, xenial/lxqt-qtplugin, xe
[10:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1799 Currently building (vivid/indicator-network). Failed to build (xenial/indicator-network). Successfully built (yakkety/indicator-network)
[11:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1799 Failed to build (vivid/indicator-network, xenial/indicator-network). Successfully built (yakkety/indicator-network)
[11:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 Preparing packages
[11:14] <kdub> how do packages get moved out of "incoming"? is there a way to watch for when that happens? (getting some messages about libhardware-dev being in incoming when trying to build)
[11:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1788 Dependency wait (yakkety/webbrowser-app). Successfully built (vivid/webbrowser-app, xenial/webbrowser-app)
[11:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 Currently building (vivid/mir, xenial/mir). Failed to build (yakkety/mir, yakkety/qtmir). Successfully built (vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/unity-system-compositor, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-system-compositor, yakkety/qtmir-gles, yakkety/unity-system-compositor)
[11:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1770 Dependency wait (yakkety/webbrowser-app). Diff missing (yakkety/qtbase-opensource-src). Failed to build (yakkety/ffmpeg, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit). Proposed pocket (yakkety/qtimageformats-opensource-src, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings). Ready to build (yakkety/kde-l10n-ast, yakkety/kde-runtime, yakkety/mlt, yakkety/qtbase-opensource-src-gles, yakkety/stk, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolk
[12:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 Currently building (vivid/mir). Failed to build (yakkety/mir, yakkety/qtmir). Successfully built (vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/unity-system-compositor, xenial/mir, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-system-compositor, yakkety/qtmir-gles, yakkety/unity-system-compositor)
[12:25] <ChrisTownsend> trainguards:  Hi!  It's not clear to me why my ticket is failing autopkgtests for Yakkety: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1796
[12:25] <ChrisTownsend> Any ideas or do I need to ping someone on #ubuntu-release?
[12:30] <Mirv> ChrisTownsend: same reason as for the last two weeks, yakkety-proposed keeps on getting bigger, with latest transition bringing new blockers being glibc 2.24. so business as usual, you could ask for --all-proposed rerun of those, but QA will also get your silo into their queue if you have green vivid + xenial and ask them
[12:30] <ChrisTownsend> Mirv: Ugh:(  Ok, this is an absolute mess.
[12:30] <ChrisTownsend> Mirv: Thanks for the explanation.
[12:34] <ChrisTownsend> ubuntu-qa: Hi!  Could you please get https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1796 in your queue since it's good on xenial and vivid, but fails yakkety due to the yakkety morass?
[12:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1779 Preparing packages
[12:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 Failed to build (yakkety/mir, yakkety/qtmir). Successfully built (vivid/mir, vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/unity-system-compositor, xenial/mir, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-system-compositor, yakkety/qtmir-gles, yakkety/unity-system-compositor)
[12:40] <davmor2> ChrisTownsend: I'll take a look after
[12:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1788 Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/webbrowser-app). Successfully built (vivid/webbrowser-app, xenial/webbrowser-app)
[12:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1770 Diff missing (yakkety/libhybris, yakkety/qtbase-opensource-src). Failed to build (yakkety/ffmpeg, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit). Proposed pocket (yakkety/qtimageformats-opensource-src, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings, yakkety/webbrowser-app). Ready to build (yakkety/kde-l10n-ast, yakkety/kde-runtime, yakkety/mlt, yakkety/qtbase-opensource-src-gles, yakkety/stk, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-tool
[13:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1779 Currently building (vivid/buteo-syncfw, xenial/buteo-syncfw). Failed to build (yakkety/buteo-syncfw)
[13:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1779 Failed to build (yakkety/buteo-syncfw). Successfully built (vivid/buteo-syncfw, xenial/buteo-syncfw)
[13:23] <dobey> fml
[13:24] <dobey> trainguards: can someone finalize https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1753 please?
[13:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1800 Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-keyboard). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-keyboard)
[13:25] <dobey> trainguards: also https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1661 too please?
[13:25] <tedg> dobey: on it
[13:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1661 Merging to trunk
[13:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1753 Merging to trunk
[13:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/810 Diff missing (xenial/qscintilla2, xenial/sip4). Successfully built (xenial/akonadi, xenial/analitza, xenial/appmenu-qt5, xenial/calibre, xenial/ciborium, xenial/fcitx-qt5, xenial/frameworkintegration, xenial/gammaray, xenial/gcin, xenial/gsettings-qt, xenial/hime, xenial/kdeclarative, xenial/kwin, xenial/libqtxdg, xenial/lxqt-qtplugin, xenial/maliit-framework, xenial/musescore, xe
[13:45] <ChrisTownsend> ubuntu-qa: Did any see my inquiry about getting https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1796 in the queue earlier?  I had to leave for a bit, so I may have missed a reply.
[13:46] <davmor2> ChrisTownsend: yes did you see my responce I'm the only person in today and am busy with a silo so I'll look at it after tha
[13:46] <davmor2> t
[13:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 Preparing packages
[13:46] <ChrisTownsend> davmor2: Nope, missed your response.  Thanks!
[13:48] <ChrisTownsend> davmor2: Just to make sure we're on the same page, I'm just looking to get it in QA's queue since yakkety autopkgtests are f'd up.
[13:49] <davmor2> ChrisTownsend: yeap but it still needs a manual review to ensure it is the same as the other which it most likely will be then manually adding to the queue
[13:49] <ChrisTownsend> davmor2: Ok, thanks again
[13:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1770 Diff missing (yakkety/qtbase-opensource-src). Failed to build (yakkety/ffmpeg, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-toolkit). Proposed pocket (yakkety/libhybris, yakkety/qtimageformats-opensource-src, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings, yakkety/webbrowser-app). Ready to build (yakkety/kde-l10n-ast, yakkety/kde-runtime, yakkety/mlt, yakkety/qtbase-opensource-src-gles, yakkety/stk, yakkety/ubuntu-ui-tool
[13:55] <Mirv> dobey: looking at both
[13:55] <dobey> Mirv: tedg already did it, thanks
[13:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- morphis, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1434 Diff missing (vivid/pulseaudio). Needs rebuild due to burned version number (yakkety/libhybris). Ready to build (xenial/gst-plugins-bad1.0, xenial/openssl, xenial/pulseaudio, yakkety/gst-plugins-bad1.0, yakkety/openssl, yakkety/pulseaudio). Successfully built (vivid/gst-plugins-bad1.0, vivid/libhybris, vivid/openssl, xenial/libhybris)
[13:56] <Mirv> dobey: oh, ok, so it seems
[14:00] <Mirv> so for example PL, DE are off today
[14:01] <tedg> I don't know, but guessing a large part of South America is as well.
[14:02] <dobey> and india
[14:02] <dobey> but that already happened i suppose
[14:04] <Mirv> oh, it's that big
[14:07] <dobey> well i think it's independence day for india
[14:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 Currently building (vivid/mir, xenial/mir). Failed to build (yakkety/mir, yakkety/qtmir). Successfully built (vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/unity-system-compositor, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-system-compositor, yakkety/qtmir-gles, yakkety/unity-system-compositor)
[14:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1801 Ready to build
[15:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1799 Preparing packages
[15:10] <Mirv> kdub: hybris fixed, next problem is something called 'gyp' in oxide-qt configuration, feel free to investigate. bug #1613257 updated.
[15:11] <Mirv> also, bug #1613312
[15:11] <Mirv> and bug #1613258 ..
[15:11] <Mirv> yakkety is full of surprises
[15:15] <kdub> thanks Mirv will see if mir can build now
[15:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 Preparing packages
[15:18] <Mirv> oh right, not your problem if just hybris exists :D oxide will bite webbrowser-app among else though
[15:18] <Mirv> as will that test problem
[15:21] <jhodapp> Mirv, that bug you filed for media-hub being broken on yaketty...that's a dbus-cpp issue that should be fixed shortly (I thought it would have already landed, I saw a patch for this from dobey)
[15:21] <dobey> er?
[15:22] <dobey> jhodapp: what bug?
[15:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1799 Currently building (xenial/indicator-network, yakkety/indicator-network). Failed to build (vivid/indicator-network)
[15:22] <jhodapp> dobey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1613312
[15:23] <dobey> jhodapp: ah, no, but it's fixed in -proposed already by a manual upload from doko. there's also a silo from tvoss to make dbus-cpp tri-landable
[15:24] <jhodapp> dobey, ok cool, so I'm going to add a comment to this bug and mark as invalid then
[15:24] <dobey> so someone needs to "give back" the builds for media-hub in y i guess
[15:24] <jhodapp> Mirv, ^
[15:24] <jhodapp> dobey, what do you mean?
[15:24] <dobey> jhodapp: i mean the failed builds need to be retried
[15:24] <jhodapp> ah right
[15:24] <jhodapp> thanks
[15:24] <Mirv> dobey: jhodapp: that log is from the doko's upload
[15:25] <Mirv> dobey: I can retry them, ok
[15:25] <dobey> Mirv: yes, but that was before the dbus-cpp upload that was made
[15:25] <Mirv> right. the rebuilds are now going at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/media-hub/4.5.0+16.10.20160720-0ubuntu2
[15:25] <jhodapp> great
[15:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1800 Preparing packages
[15:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1801 Preparing packages
[15:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 Currently building (vivid/mir, xenial/mir, yakkety/mir). Failed to build (yakkety/qtmir). Successfully built (vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/unity-system-compositor, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-system-compositor, yakkety/qtmir-gles, yakkety/unity-system-compositor)
[15:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1799 Failed to build (vivid/indicator-network, xenial/indicator-network). Successfully built (yakkety/indicator-network)
[15:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 Currently building (xenial/mir, yakkety/mir). Failed to build (vivid/mir, yakkety/qtmir). Successfully built (vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/unity-system-compositor, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-system-compositor, yakkety/qtmir-gles, yakkety/unity-system-compositor)
[16:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1800 Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-keyboard). Successfully built (xenial/ubuntu-keyboard). Uploading build (vivid/ubuntu-keyboard)
[16:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1800 Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-keyboard). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-keyboard, xenial/ubuntu-keyboard)
[16:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 Preparing packages
[16:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- timo-jyrinki, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1801 Successfully built
[16:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 Currently building (vivid/mir, yakkety/mir). Failed to build (xenial/mir, yakkety/qtmir). Successfully built (vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/unity-system-compositor, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-system-compositor, yakkety/qtmir-gles, yakkety/unity-system-compositor)
[17:15] <kdub> trainguards, could someone re-kick this build? seems its an internal compiler error that is transient (previous builds succeeded on this arch) https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-036/+build/10617267
[17:16] <robru> kdub: done
[17:16] <kdub> thank you robru
[17:16] <robru> kdub: you're welcome
[17:18] <Mirv> hi robru o/
[17:20] <robru> Mirv: Hola
[17:20] <Mirv> kenvandine: could you consider reviewing and fast-track publishing (should not need QA as such but sanity upgrade testing) https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1801 ? it's the reason for vivid/xenial ubuntuone-credentials autopkgtest failures like seen at https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/silo/070 and other silos
[17:20] <Mirv> QA is not right now QAing any u-s-s silo, so rebuilding koza's 046 and dbarth/mardy's 049 should be ok after that
[17:21] <Mirv> kenvandine: the only caveat is that I'm not 100% certain it fixes the issue, but seems logical that the | gnome-settings-daemon is never evaluated in the new situation
[17:34] <kenvandine> i don't think that'll fix it
[17:34] <kenvandine> Mirv we have silo 27 that has been ready for QA for days... but held up by autopkgtests
[17:35] <Mirv> kenvandine: oh, ok, well updates in the bug welcome then. my guess was that it was caused by repowerd making the powerd package "available" for all architectures unlike before.
[17:35] <kenvandine> Mirv, it should be considering gnome-settings-daemon though
[17:36] <dobey> something is causing it to not be installable in those cases
[17:36] <Mirv> kenvandine: if those 27's vivid/xenial tests are stuck, the archive admins can retry even test in progress tests. should you get vivid & xenial as valid candidates, QA will get it to their queue on request.
[17:36] <kenvandine> Mirv, i tested with chdist for ppc64el and it did consider gnome-settings-daemon
[17:37] <dobey> right
[17:37] <Mirv> kenvandine: hmm.. ok then, unless of course the autopkgtest setup is different (doesn't use apt similarly)
[17:37] <dobey> Mirv: that MP doesn't change the dependency issue
[17:37] <kenvandine> maybe
[17:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 Currently building (vivid/mir, xenial/mir, yakkety/mir). Failed to build (yakkety/qtmir). Successfully built (vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/unity-system-compositor, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-system-compositor, yakkety/qtmir-gles, yakkety/unity-system-compositor)
[17:37] <dobey> Mirv: because repowerd isn't available either
[17:38] <dobey> the problem is that in the autopkgtest, for some reason, neither powerd nor gnome-settings-daemon are installable
[17:38] <Mirv> dobey: the thing is that the "powerd" is now available on "all" architectures, so the guess was that the autopkgtest resolver now considers using powerd more than it did before, and only fails when it installs that transitional package's dependency which isn't available on those archs (and never was)
[17:38] <Mirv> I have no further guesses about the problem though then. I do know autopkgtest resolving is a bit differnt from just apt install.
[17:38] <kenvandine> Mirv, is it?  friday with chdist it resolved it with gnome-settings-daemon
[17:38] <kenvandine> oh
[17:39] <kenvandine> why doesn't it use apt?
[17:39] <Mirv> kenvandine: I mean powerd is _all architecture transitional package
[17:39] <kenvandine> yeah
[17:39] <dobey> it does use apt
[17:39] <kenvandine> but trying to install with chdist it chose gnome-settings-daemon
[17:39] <kenvandine> not powerd
[17:39] <Mirv> kenvandine: we'd need pitti for it, but at least it seems to have a self generated meta package with dependencies it tries to install, so it's at least more complex than normal apt install
[17:39] <dobey> try adding a build-depends of "powerd (>= 0.15) | gnome-settings-daemon," and see what happens when you try to build it on that arch
[17:39] <Mirv> I don't really understand the inside workings of autopkgtests so it's all just guessing
[17:40] <kenvandine> Mirv, understood...
[17:40] <kenvandine> this has us all puzzled
[17:40] <kenvandine> i have to step out for a bit now though
[17:40] <dobey> Mirv: it's just a generated metapackage which has the dependencies from debian/tests/control listed
[17:41] <Mirv> I have to go to sleep at some point and take care of other duties :) good luck..
[17:41] <Mirv> anyway QA seemed reluctant on taking new silos into queue when that problem exists (I guess mostly because they already ignore yakkety tests, they'd want to draw the line somewhere and not ignore particular vivid/xenial tests)
[17:42] <dobey> i don't think this is necessarily doing that though
[17:43] <dobey> Mirv: changing the depends to a recommends for powerd|gnome-settings-daemon would be better i think
[17:44] <dobey> really that dependency should be something else entirely, i think, but to solve this specific problem, a recommends seems the best immediate route
[17:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1526 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-download-manager, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-download-manager, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, yakkety/ubuntu-download-manager)
[17:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 Currently building (vivid/mir). Failed to build (yakkety/qtmir). Successfully built (vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/unity-system-compositor, xenial/mir, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-system-compositor, yakkety/mir, yakkety/qtmir-gles, yakkety/unity-system-compositor)
[18:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 Failed to build (yakkety/qtmir). Successfully built (vivid/mir, vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/unity-system-compositor, xenial/mir, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-system-compositor, yakkety/mir, yakkety/qtmir-gles, yakkety/unity-system-compositor)
[18:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 Preparing packages
[18:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1741 Abandoning ticket
[18:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1802 Preparing packages
[19:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1802 yakkety/unity-scope-click: Failed to commit https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/unity-scope-click/ual-apps. You must supply either a Commit Message on your MP, or a custom debian/changelog entry
[19:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1802 Preparing packages
[19:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry Saviq, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1771 QA Signoff: Approved
[19:03] <mterry> woot
[19:04] <mterry> davmor2: thanks for testing silo 1!
[19:04]  * mterry goes to publish
[19:11] <tedg> mterry: Force merge? :-)
[19:12] <mterry> tedg: we probably will have to -- I'm not on top of how close we are to solving the -proposed mess
[19:13] <tedg> mterry: I don't think the answer is close, and I'd like to get the UAL ABI break moving.
[19:13] <dobey> err
[19:13] <dobey> where did all the devirt builders go
[19:14] <dobey> tedg: i think we can land a bunch of the UAL stuff without breaking ABI
[19:14] <mterry> tedg: I haven't done a force-merge before.  How does that happen?
[19:14] <tedg> mterry: A trainguard just needs to finalize, so then it doesn't wait on it going through proposed.
[19:15] <dobey> mterry: after you publish, once stuff is in proposed (and in overlay), manually run finalize
[19:15] <tedg> mterry: But it needs to be after it publishes.
[19:15] <dobey> we probably need to do a bunch of that really, because there's like no silos at all right now
[19:19] <robru> tedg: mterry: core devs can do everything trainguards can do. Just click Finalize after the status becomes "proposed pocket"
[19:19] <mterry> core-dev is the best
[19:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry Saviq, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1771 Publishing
[19:20] <tedg> Heh
[19:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1679 Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/unity8). REJECTED queue (vivid/lightdm). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-touch-session, vivid/unity8, vivid/unity8-desktop-session, xenial/lightdm, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, xenial/unity8, xenial/unity8-desktop-session, yakkety/lightdm, yakkety/ubuntu-touch-session, yakkety/unity8-desktop-session)
[19:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1500 Dependency wait (yakkety/libertine). Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/qtubuntu). Successfully built (vivid/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, vivid/content-hub, vivid/libertine, vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, xenial/content-hub, xenial/libertine, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, yakkety/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, yakkety/content
[19:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1721 Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/ubuntu-settings-components). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-settings-components, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings)
[19:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 Preparing packages
[19:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jhodapp, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1792 Preparing packages
[19:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry Saviq, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1771 Proposed pocket (yakkety/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas, yakkety/platform-api, yakkety/qtmir, yakkety/qtmir-gles, yakkety/qtubuntu, yakkety/qtubuntu-gles, yakkety/ubuntu-settings-components, yakkety/unity-api, yakkety/unity-notifications, yakkety/unity8). Release pocket (vivid/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas, vivid/platform-api, vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/qtubuntu, vivid
[19:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1772 Dependency wait (yakkety/indicator-datetime, yakkety/url-dispatcher). Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/qtmir). Successfully built (vivid/content-hub, vivid/indicator-datetime, vivid/indicator-transfer, vivid/libertine-scope, vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, vivid/ubuntu-push, vivid/url-dispatcher, vivid/zeitgeist, xenial/content-hub, xenial/indic
[19:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry Saviq, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1771 Merging to trunk
[19:42] <boiko> trainguards: just to confirm: source package landings are still not dual/triple landings, right?
[19:43] <robru> boiko: no, manual sources have been supported in dual/trio tickets for some time now
[19:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1802 Failed to build (vivid/unity-scope-click, xenial/unity-scope-click, yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch, yakkety/unity-scope-click). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-app-launch). Uploading build (xenial/ubuntu-app-launch)
[19:45] <boiko> robru: oh, cool, that's great to hear :)
[19:46] <robru> boiko: yeah cuts down on the demand for PPAs a bit
[19:46] <boiko> robru: do I still have to ask you guys to copy the package from somewhere to the silo?
[19:46] <robru> boiko: yeah
[19:47] <boiko> robru: so, could you please copy the package from this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~boiko/+archive/ubuntu/tpqt to silo 16?
[19:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- boiko, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1803 Preparing packages
[19:48] <robru> boiko: ok one sec
[19:48] <boiko> robru: no hurry
[19:49] <robru> boiko: I only see xenial there. you want all three?
[19:51] <robru> copied that one anyway
[19:54] <dobey> trainguards: hi, can someone hit retry on https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-072/+build/10618015 please?
[19:55] <robru> dobey: done
[19:55] <dobey> robru: thanks
[19:55] <robru> dobey: you're welcome
[19:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kdub, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1654 Failed to build (vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/qtmir). Successfully built (vivid/mir, vivid/unity-system-compositor, xenial/mir, xenial/unity-system-compositor, yakkety/mir, yakkety/qtmir-gles, yakkety/unity-system-compositor)
[19:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1772 Dependency wait (yakkety/indicator-datetime, yakkety/url-dispatcher). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/qtmir). Successfully built (vivid/content-hub, vivid/indicator-datetime, vivid/indicator-transfer, vivid/libertine-scope, vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, vivid/ubuntu-push, vivid/url-dispatcher, vivid/zeitgeist, xenial/content-hub, xenial/indicator-datet
[20:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry Saviq, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1771 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/unity8). Proposed pocket (yakkety/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas, yakkety/platform-api, yakkety/qtmir, yakkety/qtmir-gles, yakkety/qtubuntu, yakkety/qtubuntu-gles, yakkety/ubuntu-settings-components, yakkety/unity-api, yakkety/unity-notifications). Release pocket (vivid/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas, vivid/platform-api, vivid/qtmir, vivi
[20:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1772 Preparing packages
[20:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1679 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/unity8). REJECTED queue (vivid/lightdm). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-touch-session, vivid/unity8, vivid/unity8-desktop-session, xenial/lightdm, xenial/ubuntu-touch-session, xenial/unity8, xenial/unity8-desktop-session, yakkety/lightdm, yakkety/ubuntu-touch-session, yakkety/unity8-desktop-session)
[20:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1500 Dependency wait (yakkety/libertine). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/qtubuntu). Successfully built (vivid/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, vivid/content-hub, vivid/libertine, vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, xenial/content-hub, xenial/libertine, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, yakkety/apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu, yakkety/content-hub, yakk
[20:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1721 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/ubuntu-settings-components, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-settings-components, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings)
[20:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1802 Failed to build (vivid/unity-scope-click, xenial/unity-scope-click, yakkety/unity-scope-click). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch)
[20:08] <dobey> well at least lp publishing seems to have sped up a tiny bit
[20:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jhodapp, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1792 Preparing packages
[20:21] <dobey> or so he thought
[20:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- boiko, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1803 Diff missing (xenial/telepathy-qt5). Ready to build (vivid/telepathy-qt5, yakkety/telepathy-qt5)
[20:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1772 Dependency wait (yakkety/indicator-datetime, yakkety/qtmir, yakkety/qtmir-gles, yakkety/url-dispatcher). Successfully built (vivid/content-hub, vivid/indicator-datetime, vivid/indicator-transfer, vivid/libertine-scope, vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, vivid/ubuntu-push, vivid/url-dispatcher, vivid/zeitgeist, xenial/content-hub, xenial/indicator-datetime, xenial/ind
[20:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ChrisTownsend, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1796 QA Signoff: Ready
[20:41] <ToyKeeper> ChrisTownsend: I got your ticket in the queue, but it's still waiting on someone with a tablet to do the actual testing.
[20:41] <ChrisTownsend> ToyKeeper: Ok, thank you very much!
[20:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1802 Preparing packages
[20:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1526 Preparing packages
[20:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mterry Saviq, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1771 Build for superseded Source (vivid/unity8). Ready to build (vivid/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas, vivid/platform-api, vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/qtubuntu, vivid/qtubuntu-gles, vivid/ubuntu-settings-components, vivid/unity-api, vivid/unity-notifications, xenial/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas, xenial/platform-api, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/q
[20:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jhodapp, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1792 Dependency wait (vivid/qtubuntu-media, xenial/qtubuntu-media, yakkety/qtubuntu-media). Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/media-hub). Successfully built (vivid/media-hub, xenial/media-hub)
[21:01] <boiko> robru: ah, let me add vivid and yakketi too
[21:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dobey, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1802 Failed to build (vivid/unity-scope-click, xenial/unity-scope-click, yakkety/unity-scope-click). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, xenial/ubuntu-app-launch, yakkety/ubuntu-app-launch)
[21:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jhodapp, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1792 Preparing packages
[21:22] <robru> boiko: those versions aren't valid, you can't have vivid higher than xenial.
[21:23] <boiko> robru: I was planning on having all of them at 0ubuntu4, but then it only let me upload once
[21:23] <robru> boiko: yes, you can't reuse the numbers either.
[21:24] <boiko> that's not smart, it's different series :/
[21:24] <robru> boiko: no it's necessary, you can't have two packages with different contents that have the same number. and yes, changing the series changes the contents.
[21:24] <robru> boiko: I recommend -0ubuntu6 for yakkety and then -0ubuntu6~xenial and -0ubuntu6~vivid
[21:25] <robru> boiko: I'd say it's a bug that it even let you upload a higher number for vivid than what you had for xenial, that makes upgrading from vivid to xenial difficult/impossible
[21:26] <boiko> robru: ok, let me change the versions then
[21:30] <boiko> robru: ok, source packages are there already
[21:32] <robru> boiko: ok, copied
[21:32] <boiko> robru: thanks!
[21:32] <robru> boiko: you're welcome
[21:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jhodapp, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1792 Destination version missing from changelog (yakkety/media-hub). Successfully built (vivid/media-hub, vivid/qtubuntu-media, xenial/media-hub, xenial/qtubuntu-media, yakkety/qtubuntu-media)
[21:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Cimi, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1636 Preparing packages
[21:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tedg, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1772 Dependency wait (yakkety/indicator-datetime, yakkety/url-dispatcher). Successfully built (vivid/content-hub, vivid/indicator-datetime, vivid/indicator-transfer, vivid/libertine-scope, vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/ubuntu-app-launch, vivid/ubuntu-push, vivid/url-dispatcher, vivid/zeitgeist, xenial/content-hub, xenial/indicator-datetime, xenial/indicator-transfer, xenial/libertine-s
[21:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- boiko, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1803 Currently building (xenial/telepathy-qt5). Dependency wait (yakkety/telepathy-qt5). Failed to build (vivid/telepathy-qt5)
[21:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1526 Successfully built
[22:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- boiko, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1803 Dependency wait (yakkety/telepathy-qt5). Diff missing (xenial/telepathy-qt5). Failed to build (vivid/telepathy-qt5)
[22:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Cimi, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1636 Bad merges (yakkety/unity8). Successfully built (vivid/unity8, xenial/unity8)


[08:00] <cyphase> Happy PST New Year!
[08:01] <smspillaz> man living in the future is weird
[08:01] <smspillaz> new years was so yesterday
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[08:56] <smspillaz> cyphase: not sure I get the joke ;-)
[08:57] <cyphase> smspillaz, the joke is there is no joke. it was just a mistake
[08:58] <smspillaz> heh


[11:51] <don_jr> ladydoor I"m a dope, sorry, it's in the system menu
[11:51] <ladydoor> raich: look in synaptic, under games
[11:51] <raich> xepher, is there a linux gaming channel?
[11:51] <ladydoor> don_jr: oh, sweet!
[11:51] <xepher> raich: not sure
[11:51] <micahcowan> longwave, is that in answer to my "anybody" question, or my sudo chown comment?
[11:51] <ladydoor> raich: or happypenguin.org
[11:51] <xepher> raich :doubt it
[11:51] <longwave> micahcowan: i presume single user mode doesnt ask for a password if there isn't one, you can usually use the init=/bin/sh trick to get a straight root shell if you don't know the root password
[11:51] <marshall_> hey guys
[11:51] <raich> hmm thanks ladudoor
[11:51] <raich> xepheer, too bd..
[11:51] <raich> ladydor*
[11:51] <don_jr> does ubuntu come with a python editor/compiler?
[11:51] <raich> damn
[11:51] <raich> ladydoor**
[11:52] <ladydoor> raich: haha
[11:52] <longwave> micahcowan: the sudo chown comment
[11:52] <marshall_> i keep getting this error: invalid string or constant "panel"
[11:52] <nexus> hi
[11:52] <ladydoor> don_jr: in synaptic, search for "python"
[11:52] <don_jr> ladydoor ok
[11:52] <longwave> don_jr: yes, python is installed by default, a lot of ubuntu scripts are in python
[11:52] <jacques> just changed from winXP to linux.just want to know how to play my movies/series that used to use the xvid and divx codecs
[11:52] <micahcowan> longwave, losing sudo would be a real pain (especially without root password). I feel for the guy.
[11:53] <inewguy> hi
[11:53] <eyequeue> !mp3 > jacques
[11:53] <MMXGN> Hello, Anyone has made Airport Extreme to work with ubuntu and imac?
[11:53] <ladydoor> micahcowan: can't he log on to recovery mode?
[11:53] <ladydoor> micahcowan: from there he could set root's password
[11:53] <MMXGN> the way described in ubuntu forums doesnt seem to work for me
[11:53] <MMXGN> :/
[11:53] <ladydoor> micahcowan: and after that could fix the system
[11:53] <pequatre> hi. I need your advices. I can't read a video dvd: if i put it in my pc nothing happens (no automount). I had the same problem last week but i succeeded in reading it and i could see the movie (i have libdcss etc...) .I don't remember how i fixed it. Any one can help ?
[11:53] <inewguy> is this the right chat to ask for ubuntu help on my ibook or is there some special ubuntu mac chat for that?
[11:53] <micahcowan> ladydoor, yeah, that was our suggestion. And he wouldn't need to set root's password, he could just fix sudo with a chown.
[11:53] <longwave> ladydoor: he can log on in recovery mode, but reversing the commands he has run to lose sudo in the first place may be complicated
[11:54] <ladydoor> longwave: aha.
[11:54] <micahcowan> longwave, why? wouldn't a simple chown do the trick?
[11:54] <tomaczec> don_jr: btw, python is not regarded to be a language to be 'compiled'... hence there is no compiler.
[11:54] <don_jr> tomaczec it's not? then what is it?
[11:54] <longwave> micahcowan: yes, but he was using -R before, and if he's changed more permissions/owners than just sudo that will be hard to fix
[11:54] <micahcowan> longwave, Assuming he didn't chown -R -s /usr/bin or something... >:-]
[11:54] <jacques> just changed from winXP to linux.just want to know how to play my movies/series that used to use the xvid and divx codecs
[11:54] <micahcowan> lol
[11:54] <inewguy> hello?
[11:55] <ladydoor> inewguy: hi!
[11:55] <Bazzi> jacques easyubuntu might be the way to go for you
[11:55] <pequatre> "sudo hdparm /dev/hdc" stalls my terminal
[11:55] <longwave> pequatre: what is connected to hdc?
[11:55] <inewguy> ladydoor: ah, so what i say can be read by you after all :-)
[11:55] <tomaczec> don_jr: kinda so called 'scripting language' with a python interpreter to run the scripted code.
[11:55] <jacques> Bazzi what do you mean
[11:55] <pequatre> longwave, my dvd player
[11:55] <edju> I can't add a printer in cups - asks for a passwd & whether I give root or user, I can't continue.  Anybody?
[11:55] <micahcowan> longwave: but still, at least the other permissions would be easier to fix if he has sudo working. But, yeah, I agree with you: if he's munged setuid on other binaries too, then he's better off reinstalling. We should ask him to ls -l /bin/login when he gets back.
[11:55] <pequatre> longwave, there's a dvd inside
[11:56] <Bazzi> !easyubuntu > jacques
[11:56] <don_jr> tomaczec okay, I'm new to this nix stuff.  would it be better for me to learn scripting in bash or zsh instead of python?
[11:56] <longwave> pequatre: hrm, that should work. is there any output in "dmesg" about hdc?
[11:56] <inewguy> ladydoor: so, well, is this the right chat to ask for ubuntu-on-mac help? i just installed it on my ibook and have some issues
[11:56] <jacques> ???
[11:56] <longwave> don_jr: python is a good language to start out with
[11:56] <jacques> is it a irc channel
[11:56] <chanta> airport extreme      https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[11:57] <pequatre> longwave, "[17179949.552000]  cdrom: open failed."
[11:57] <inewguy> :(
[11:57] <longwave> don_jr: shell scripts can be limiting in what you can do with them easily compared to say python or perl
[11:57] <pequatre> longwave, also "[17179869.844000]  hdc: request sense failure: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[11:57] <pequatre> "
[11:57] <fredsa> hi guys
[11:57] <ladydoor> inewguy: i guess so, but i'm not the person to ask, unfortuantely. sorry.
[11:57] <tomaczec> don_jr: python is more a prgramming language (object orientation and such) as bash/zsh. i cant decide what's better for you. what do you need it for?
[11:57] <_lupine> longwave: I wouldn't write a GUI in them, but they're good for quick 'n dirty :)
[11:58] <inewguy> ladydoor: ok, thanks for the information anyway!
[11:58] <_lupine> but pascal is better than python to start with
[11:58] <fredsa> does anyone here know how to setup gdm to launch multiple x sessions?
[11:58] <longwave> _lupine: yeah, but once you know python/perl it's often quicker to just use those anyway :)
[11:58] <_lupine> look up "lazarus" and "fpc"
[11:58] <Peacer> i have a problem with my netcard
[11:58] <don_jr> tomaczec I dont' have any specific needs right now.  Just want to learn how to customize my box a bit more and I'm told scripting is the way to do that.
[11:58] <_lupine> eh, for regex's yes
[11:58] <Peacer> suddenly it couldn't connect :(
[11:58] <don_jr> longwave I'll work with python for a bit, found a decent starter page for it that'll help
[11:58] <longwave> _lupine: and what can't be solved with a regex? ;)
[11:58] <Peacer> no green light in teh back of the netcard
[11:58] <ladydoor> inewguy: np!
[11:58] <inewguy> ok, so here it goes: I just installed ubuntu 6.06.1 on my ibook g4 and iin general i am loving it but there is a display glitch that i find quite anoying
[11:59] <_lupine> probably nothing :/
[11:59] <_lupine> but only the initiated can understand them fully
[11:59] <_lupine> computer version of the Necronomicon, I guess
[11:59] <longwave> haha yes
[11:59] <inewguy> sometimes when displaying dialogs, the OK/Cancel/help buttons are not the normal color but bright yellow or pitch black
[11:59] <tomaczec> don_jr: give python a try. if you dont like it ... have a look at bash scripting.
[11:59] <Peacer> any help please :)?
[11:59] <inewguy> how can i fix that?
[12:00] <ravenous> how do you set whether gdm or kdm runs on x login?
[12:00] <Pulshion> is there a way to get atitool to work in ubuntu?
[12:00] <Peacer> driver problems with it
[12:00] <longwave> pequatre: have you tried hdparm without a dvd in the drive? that error suggests it cant read a sector from the dvd, but that may be because of dvd copy protection or something


[13:34] <guiverc> "Lubuntu 22.04 LTS is looking good though i installed gnome-terminal to test everything out it installed without any errors but i cant seem to find it in my menu"  ... I can confirm this & I've ignored it.. Is this a problem, and why doesn't it show (if someone knows off the top of their head; comment from tester on discord-'Lubuntu 22.04 Testing" in Ubuntu.Hideout
 The desktop file has OnlyShowIn=GNOME;Unity;
[13:42] <guiverc> Thanks kc2bez - greatly appreciated... gives me a definite response for the person who asked.
[13:44] <guiverc> Thanks Dan , @kc2bez
 Sure thing.
 You could copy and edit that desktop file to your ~/.local/share/applications/ and it should show up in the menu
[13:48] <guiverc> thanks, I can offer that to TwistedVision on discord
 guiverc in the text or the screenshot?
 I think I just did the screenshot
 I actually only noticed the grub version had changed so the text is wrong
[21:48] <guiverc> @lynorian, you've already done screenshot which really impressed me (done before I first noticed it), I don't remember text well enough, I can check
 I already fixed the text
[21:48] <guiverc> :)


[14:09] <jrwren>  TIL RFC 8878. I wonder if any browsers support it zstd content-encoding.
[14:10] <jrwren> well that was easy to find. https://chromestatus.com/feature/6186023867908096.
[20:56] <Scary_Guy> https://old.reddit.com/r/flipperzero/comments/197mz3j/alpena_police_steal_my_flipperzero_post_update/