[00:00] <bradv> amarrero: Xvid videos? You need gstreamer or xine plugins. You need to see the links I sent you.
[00:00] <bodo> amarrero, what's your player????
[00:00] <EvilWalksWithMe> Wow! Is it always this hectic in here with people needing help? How do you guys manage to keep up?
[00:00] <amarrero> whatever, it happens with totem, mplayer
[00:00] <Chousuke> EvilWalksWithMe: sometimes we don't
[00:00] <amarrero> i think the problem is not the player but the xv extension
[00:01] <bradv> amarrero: Be aware that if you are watching certain videos they may be designed for use with a particular codec which contains all kinds of malware and spyware. These codecs only properly install in Windows.
[00:01] <Chousuke> EvilWalksWithMe: help with helping is always appreciated
[00:01] <mneptok> amarrero: open one of those with Totem
[00:01] <amarrero> no, my problem is with same videos in my old feisty installation
[00:01] <bodo> amarrero, i think if it could be played the tottem will ask you to download aparticular codec
[00:01] <soundray> wers: I don't think it's possible to open psw files in any native Linux program
[00:02] <mneptok> amarrero: open one of those with Totem, please?
[00:02] <genii> sayanora bleh. tab no good, they left now
[00:02] <wers> soundray, you mean, I need windows? :((
[00:02] <EvilWalksWithMe> I couldn't help ... this is only my third day using Linux :( i found everything i needed to know over at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy And if not there, Google helped :P
[00:02] <soundray> wers: either that, or wine
[00:02] <bradv> EvilWalksWithMe: Good stuff. Now you're qualified to stick around and help other people.
[00:02] <amarrero> mneptok, i have done it
[00:03] <wers> oooh. what app under wine, soundray?
[00:03] <soundray> wers: don't know, MS Works possibly
[00:03] <bodo> my grub is down and i do edit roo(hd0,4) thats where my ubuntu but it gived me error 13 unexecutable file plz help
[00:03] <kinglet> hi to all
[00:03] <mneptok> amarrero: pause playback, hit the "Sidebar" button to open the sidebar, and select "Properties" at the top. what does Totem say about the movie format?
[00:03] <EvilWalksWithMe> lol, I'll try my best with my very limited knowledge :P
[00:03] <kinglet> I have a question
[00:03] <MiddleOfNowhere> genii: i dont understand step 3
[00:04] <kinglet> how I can run a VPN connection in Ubuntu 7.10 ?
[00:04] <mneptok> amarrero: some DivX codec?
[00:04] <MiddleOfNowhere> it gives a command i run but when?
[00:04] <bradv> bodo: There are howto's on the web to help you repair a damaged or lost grub installation. Try Google.
[00:04] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: Step 3 is the part where you use syslinux.exe from the unzipped file on the drive letter of the usb stick
[00:04] <brandon__> is there a place to get quake rocket arena 3 without having rocket arena?
[00:04] <MiddleOfNowhere> kkk
[00:04] <bodo> i tried it but i  cannot understand
[00:05] <soundray> kinglet: are you trying to connect to a VPN server?
[00:05] <MiddleOfNowhere> I dont see syslinux.exe
[00:05] <DesiArnez6> If anyone is able to help me, I have a very basic upgrade to Gutsy question, Is there a reason the upgrade option is no longer available from "update manager"?
[00:05] <soundray> kinglet: or set up a VPN server?
[00:05] <EvilWalksWithMe> Kinglet: try this link, the second post might be of help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=339699
[00:05] <amarrero> mneptok, that is what appears about video
[00:05] <kinglet> Yea its a dsl connection and run with a VPN connection no PPoE
[00:05] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: G to where you unzipped the file
[00:05] <bradv> DesiArnez6: is it available in synaptic? Is it possible you've already ugraded?
[00:05] <genii> *Go
[00:05] <amarrero> COdec: xvid mpeg-4
[00:05] <MiddleOfNowhere> im there
[00:06] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[00:06] <kinglet> no just for connecting to internet dear soundray
[00:06] <Cpudan80> anyone have any luck setting up a VNC server with Ubuntu?
[00:06] <mneptok> amarrero: ok, so it's actually a DivX file, not something bizarre. have you tried playing it with VLC?
[00:06] <rmaj> Cpudan80: I did sometime ago..
[00:06] <amarrero> one thing, i can play videos with x11, but not with xv
[00:06] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: There is a dir called win32   go in there
[00:06] <Cpudan80> I need it to work even if no user is logged in.... but for whatever reason I can't get it to work properly
[00:06] <MiddleOfNowhere> k im there
[00:06] <amarrero> that's why i think it's not a problem with codecs
[00:06] <rmaj> Cpudan80:  get some  VNC serwer... I think vncx11 or simmilar name..
[00:06] <DesiArnez6> bradv: I definitely havent upgraded already, still shows feisty 7.04, Im not sure how to upgrade with synaptic
[00:06] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: In there is syslinux.exe
[00:06] <soundray> kinglet: you don't normally need VPN to connect to the internet
[00:07] <amarrero> mneptok, no but i can try
[00:07] <bodo> no one can help me about gRUB  people?
[00:07] <dtolj_> Anybody have experience with sharing /home between multiple distros? what the best solution?
[00:07] <Cpudan80> rmaj: Yeah - but how do you set it up though?
[00:07] <rmaj> Cpudan80: there are some options, like waiting for connection,  closing or not after client disconnects etc
[00:07] <amarrero> mneptok, wait
[00:07] <mneptok> amarrero: what kisd of video chipset? and are you using Compiz?
[00:07] <mneptok> *kind
[00:07] <kinglet> soundray I know
[00:07] <MiddleOfNowhere> i click it and it comes up and closes out on me
[00:07] <bradv> DesiArnez6: Is your situation listed in the FAQ on ubuntu.com regarding upgrading to gutsy?
[00:07] <ArabEyes> anone knows how to add the topaz pannel ?
[00:07] <amarrero> no, i can use compiz because i have an ati card
[00:07] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: For simplicity right now, just copy it to the directory c:\windows  or c:\winnt   whicheer is on the computer
[00:07] <kinglet> sorry guys be right back soon
[00:07] <dtolj_> bodo: whats the problem?
[00:07] <mneptok> amarrero: try "sudo apt-get install vlc" and then play the file with that
[00:07] <sitexec> i am currently running ubuntu with compiz plugin and nvidia driver, the manager says its using the nvidia restricted driver, and compiz for the display, however, compiz is constantly using upwards of 80% of my 2gb of ram, when running beryl, i had none of these problems, any ideas?
[00:08] <Cpudan80> rmaj: I managed to get one thing setup, but then nothing would show up when you VNCd to it
[00:08] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: That will allow you to run it from a dos command
[00:08] <DesiArnez6> bradv: (It used to show the update button, for some reason it just isnt there any more), I checked the Upgrading to Gutsy page, nothing seems to adress this, Ill check again in detail
[00:08] <MiddleOfNowhere> ok
[00:08] <MiddleOfNowhere> just to c:?
[00:08] <wers> mmm.. can't openoffice.org open .psw files? :D
[00:08] <bodo> dtolj, error 13 unsupported exeutable format
[00:08] <amarrero> mneptok, ok i'm doing it
[00:08] <amarrero> menptok, wait
[00:08] <mneptok> wers: what is a .psw?
[00:08] <mangojambo> hi ... there is someone here from glasgow scotland?
[00:08] <clay__> how can i restart networking?
[00:08] <MiddleOfNowhere> ok copied
[00:08] <clay__> i've lost my DNS.
[00:08] <wers> pocket word file mneptok
[00:08] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: No, must be c:\windows or c:\winnt
[00:08] <mneptok> !offtopic > mangojambo
[00:08] <MiddleOfNowhere> k
[00:09] <mneptok> wers: save it as something not so horrendously proprietary ;)
[00:09] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: Ok. 98/me/2k/xp?
[00:09] <etnoy> I'm working on a program that is growing large with sockets, threads and curses, but I am not able to make Ctrl-C:s work. No keyboardinterrupt is raised
[00:09] <genii> (which you have?)
[00:09] <etnoy> any pointers?
[00:09] <sayanora1818181> WHY CAN NO ONE HELP ME?
[00:09] <Cpudan80> !shouting | sayanora1818181
[00:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shouting - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:09] <wers> that's the only file type that my pocket pc can save :( mneptok
[00:09] <sayanora1818181> lol
[00:09] <huasteko> what do you need sayonora?
[00:09] <mneptok> sayanora1818181: please no <capslock>
[00:09] <Cpudan80> !patience | sayanora1818181
[00:09] <ubotu> sayanora1818181: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[00:09] <MiddleOfNowhere> Visa
[00:09] <Altu59> hi all. in feisty fawn when i click on a windows media file (asx) in firefox, it shows the decoder download dialog, and then plays it. but in gutsy it opens the media player in firefox, but then does not play it
[00:09] <MiddleOfNowhere> *Vista
[00:09] <sayanora1818181> Well I need help
[00:09] <Altu59> is there a way i can fix this?
[00:10] <sayanora1818181> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3820486#post3820486
[00:10] <amarrero> mneptok, same results
[00:10] <soundray> wers: I have a PocketPC too. I've given up on trying to import psw.
[00:10] <wers> according to http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Java_and_OpenOffice.org , oo.o supports .psw files but whenever I open them, gibberish come out
[00:10] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: OK. Need to get to a command prompt, on vista I forget offhand how to get there. I *think* is start..accessories...command prompt (or similar)
[00:10] <dtolj_> bodo: do you have the correct setup in boot/grub/menu.1st?
[00:11] <mneptok> amarrero: try disabling Compiz
[00:11] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: You will have to find it
[00:11] <MiddleOfNowhere> im there
[00:11] <amarrero> mneptok, i have compiz disabled
[00:11] <bradv> !windows | genii
[00:11] <ubotu> genii: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[00:11] <joe_> Hello,everybody
[00:12] <dtolj_> bradv: lol
[00:12] <|Zippo|> hello, i've attached an extra HD on my computer and ubuntu didn't mount that automatically... what can I do?
[00:12] <genii> bradv: He is using win to create a linux bootable flash disk
[00:12] <soundray> wers: it claims it can save in that format. It doesn't mention anything about opening files.
[00:12] <bodo> dtolj_: bodo: do you have the correct setup in boot/grub/menu.1st?           dun know ??? iam new here
[00:12] <bradv> genii: Well I guess we'll forgive him then.
[00:12] <genii> bradv: I am assisting him with this. It is relevant and also informative for others
[00:13] <DesiArnez6> bradv: OK, I checked again, I was directed here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/upgrade-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-to-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html THe first window looks exactly the way it did on my computer, but I didnt want to upgrade right away in case of bugs, so I waited, and then it disappeared. Is there an expiration date for automatic upgrade?
[00:13] <wers> soundray, :( I really need an app that will run on wine
[00:13] <genii> bradv: LOL sorry for being curt just now
[00:13] <sayanora1818181> Help me, please
[00:13] <wers> my school notes are on .psw!
[00:13] <sayanora1818181> I am having a problem
[00:13] <sayanora1818181> I cannot create a partition
[00:13] <wers> soundray, can a pocket pc save using another file type?
[00:13] <bradv> Is there anyone here who can help DesiArnez6 upgrade to Gutsy?
[00:13] <bodo> sayanora1818181, use gparted do you know????
[00:13] <sayanora1818181> Yes
[00:14] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: Good :) what drive letter is the flash stick?
[00:14] <sayanora1818181> bodo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=620573
[00:14] <soundray> wers: install an editor that can save as .txt (there are free programs around). Then you can copy and paste your notes and save them as plain text.
[00:14] <clay__> how can i find out what my DNS is, and store in a file?
[00:14] <dtolj_> bodo: edit this file /boot/grub/menu.1st and make sure you see your installed OS there and that its pointing to the correct partition, see more info on google.
[00:14] <wers> niiice! soundray! niiiice!
[00:14] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: syslinux -s F:      if F: G: or so on, substitute the right drive letter for the stick
[00:15] <MiddleOfNowhere> its k
[00:15] <MiddleOfNowhere> so syslinux -s K: ?
[00:15] <soundray> clay__: normally your DNS configuration is in /etc/resolv.conf
[00:15] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: syslinux -s K:                       then, yes
[00:15] <bodo>  dtolj_: bodo: edit this file /boot/grub/menu.1st and make sure you see your installed OS there and that its pointing to the correct partition, see more info on google.
[00:15] <MiddleOfNowhere> k done
[00:15] <bodo> yeah but how?????????
[00:15] <domor> Can somone hlp me to get my graphics card going
[00:15] <Jangari> anyonw use kibker-kblogger?
[00:15] <Jangari> kicker*
[00:15] <Cap_J_L_Picard> domor: what card?
[00:16] <dtolj_> !microsoft
[00:16] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[00:16] <bradv> Jangari: Sounds like a kubuntu question, no?
[00:16] <domor> Cap_J-L-Picard: Geforce 8500Gt
[00:16] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: Congrats. You have a linux bootable flash stick. You have a cdrom made from the iso, or just the iso file?
[00:16] <MiddleOfNowhere> yeh cdrom is made
[00:16] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: (of the ubuntu you d/loaded)
[00:16] <bodo>  dtolj_: bodo: edit this file /boot/grub/menu.1st and make sure you see your installed OS there and that its pointing to the correct partition, see more info on google.
[00:16] <bodo> how i cannot even enter my ubuntu
[00:16] <MiddleOfNowhere> yes i burnt the iso to the cdrom
[00:16] <Cap_J_L_Picard> domor: open the restrictive drivers manager and tick the box.
[00:17] <bradv> domor: Use the restricted driver setup to install nvidia drivers.
[00:17] <clay__> i think using vpnc has something to do with this.
[00:17] <bradv> !nvidia | domor
[00:17] <ubotu> domor: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:17] <dtolj_> bodo: in that case do it from the grub menu, you have grub installed right?
[00:17] <DesiArnez6> Is there anyone else out there that knows how to update to Gutsy when the Upgrade button is no longer available from "update Manager"?
[00:17] <timrs> If i install ubuntu then apt-get all of the kde stuff, will it be a vanila kde with no distro changes or will it pretty much be kubuntu?
[00:17] <askand> Hi, is libexiv2-0 not in the repos?
[00:17] <dtolj_> bodo: always create a grub boot disk!
[00:17] <domor> Cap_J-L-Picard: yea but when i restart it cant boot then a box comes up and says run a low resolution then it boots into unbunt then i go into restricted driver and says "not in use" and the box it "unticked"
[00:18] <MiddleOfNowhere> i have cd burnt genii what do i do?
[00:18] <bodo> : bodo: always create a grub boot disk! now i have no one what can i do to get my ubuntu back
[00:18] <dragonmc> hey guys, wanting to get some opinions onf which window manager is the best looking one.  last time i looked at this some years ago, enlighten was top dog in the eye-candy department.  that still the case?  i'll be installing this on a pretty hefty system, so resources are no object
[00:18] <soundray> !upgrade | DesiArnez6, the upgrade page contains information about other ways of upgrading than through update-manager
[00:18] <ubotu> DesiArnez6, the upgrade page contains information about other ways of upgrading than through update-manager: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[00:18] <anomaly> if I am using a thumb drive for / and boot media, yet have nfs on ~/storage giving me 30gb, anyway to get it to install to that instead of / on thumb?
[00:18] <Wooksta> i've installed vsftpd and ive set it to use local logon accounts, ive then created a user that will be my ftp accoutn and i want that user to be able to upload / create directories in /var/www... ive tried chown'ing /var/www to the www-data:www-data user/group and then making my user part of www-data but it still cant create a dir in /var/www/, can anyone help me get the permissions right?
[00:19] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: Good :) insert the cdrom and then go to it in windows file explorer. also in another file explorer window open up the flash drive letter k:
[00:19] <bodo> dtolj, bodo: always create a grub boot disk! now i have no one what can i do to get my ubuntu back
[00:19] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: If the cdrom insertion wants to run crap etc just cancel it
[00:19] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: And you have the cd in the cdrom drive of the computer we are working on, you are exploring the contents of the cdrom and exploring the contents of the flash stick?
[00:19] <soundray> DesiArnez6: btw, if you have a working system, I suggest sticking with feisty -- I find it a bit more solid and reliable.
[00:19] <domor> Cap_J-L-Picard: yea but when i restart it cant boot then a box comes up and says run a low resolution then it boots into unbunt then i go into restricted driver and says "not in use" and the box it "unticked"
[00:19] <sitexec> i am currently running ubuntu with compiz plugin and nvidia driver, the manager says its using the nvidia restricted driver, and compiz for the display, however, compiz is constantly using upwards of 80% of my 2gb of ram, when running beryl, i had none of these problems, any ideas?
[00:19] <MiddleOfNowhere> NO i have the cd in my other machine im not installing linux to
[00:20] <Cap_J_L_Picard> domor: don't repeat, and tab auto completes the nick...
[00:20] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: We need to copy the entire cd contents onto the flash stick
[00:20] <MiddleOfNowhere> K lemme start it
[00:20] <dowlings> I am having trouble connecting my PC to my router through my wifi usb card, can someone try to help me please?
[00:20] <dowlings> ndiswrapper is not necessary
[00:20] <DesiArnez6> soundray: It is working, I actually planned to wait until December break to upgrade, but I got scared when I saw the upgrade button gone, that I had missed some sort of deadline for automatic upgrade
[00:20] <dtolj_> DesiArnez6: from bash, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:21] <domor> Cap_J-L-Picard: sorry
[00:21] <bodo> sayanora1818181, it might be a block of windows logical partions so you cannot put linux one there not after erase them all
[00:21] <ridge-meister> what command do i use to identify myself to the server?  I can't get into #python
[00:21] <soundray> DesiArnez6: I don't think you missed anything. Can't tell you why it vanished, though. dtolj_'s advice won't work btw.
[00:21] <anomaly> ridge /msg nickserv identify password
[00:21] <[ECC]> hi peop!!!
[00:22] <inversekinetix> can anyone explain to me how to install the new version of alien arena?
[00:22] <Cap_J_L_Picard> domor: Still not using tab, it's the one with two arrows on it? and it seems like it can't load the kernel module...
[00:22] <barbara_> pearl Jam
[00:22] <domor> Cap_J-L-Picard: im confused?
[00:22] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: After you have copy and pasted the entire cd contents onto the flash stick let me know, I need to take bathroom break :)
[00:22] <DesiArnez6> uboto and soundray, thx, for the site So when I upgrade, I can also use the server method from the terminal
[00:22] <bodo> dtolj,  always create a grub boot disk! now i have no one what can i do to get my ubuntu back
[00:22] <askand> Hi, is libexiv2-0 not in the repos or am I doing something wrong?
[00:22] <ridge-meister> anomaly: when i type that in (and my password) it just shows "identify ****"
[00:22] <soundray> DesiArnez6: yes
[00:23] <anomaly> its the same command I use..so I don't know about an error
[00:23] <bodo> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp
[00:23] <sitexec> i need somebody
[00:24] <AdioHyperion> hello
[00:24] <bodo> grub error 13?????????????????????????????
[00:24] <[ECC]grandinis> hello
[00:24] <soundray> !please | bodo
[00:24] <ubotu> bodo: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[00:24] <DesiArnez6> soundray: ok, so sudo aptitude install update-manager-core , then sudo do-release-upgrade, then onscreen instructions? I still will probably take your advice and wait another month or too
[00:24] <Mark761966> Do you need power management on a desktop?
[00:24] <clay__> soundray, are you saying that resolv.conf is recreated whenever i obtain a lease, and anything that is already there is erased?
[00:24] <domor> My ubuntu is weird!
[00:24] <ridge-meister> i'm learning Python, but wonder if reading "Dive Into Python" and doing some programming examples, is the best way to go about this
[00:24] <soundray> DesiArnez6: my suggestion is to wait for hardy and then do a fresh install.
[00:24] <AdioHyperion> i was just wondering if there was a simple way to setup a raid configuration with ubuntu
[00:24] <Cap_J_L_Picard> domor: I really need to be going to bed, but someone else might be able to help if you pastebin you /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[00:24] <domor> how do you reconfigre your xorg
[00:24] <soundray> clay__: essentially, yes
[00:24] <dowlings> Can someone help me connect over a WEP encryption?
[00:24] <clay__> soundray, i'm trying to find the difference between lease-acquired info, and additional manually create-able files.
[00:25] <inversekinetix> can anyone explain to me how to install the new version of alien arena?
[00:25] <soundray> domor: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[00:25] <domor> Cap_J-L-Picard: ok
[00:25] <strui> my laptot uses fn + shift + pageup to scroll up, how can I map that so only uses shift + pageup?
[00:25] <DesiArnez6> soundray: ah, ok ;) will prob do then, since stability is very important
[00:25] <domor> soundray: can i just open terminal and do that
[00:25] <Vladimir32tl> im finally ready to make the switch to ubuntu but before i do i ahve 1 question. i have 1 hdd with 2 partitions. c: is used by xp and d: is empty. i would like to install ubuntu on d: BUT if i decide to remove ubuntu from d: and give that back to xp, is it easy to convert it back to ntfs?
[00:25] <Cap_J_L_Picard> domor: I think it's more than reconfigure though...
[00:25] <soundray> domor: yes
[00:25] <Mark761966> Because I'm starting to wonder if its the power management that keeps making my computer crash
[00:25] <genii> domor: if just to change resolutions sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg            if all of it then omit the -phigh
[00:25] <dtolj_> bodo: enter the grub prompt and type root (hd0,0) then find /boot/grub/menu.1st followed by setup (hd0)
[00:25] <MiddleOfNowhere> genii: its copying right now
[00:26] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: Beautiful :)
[00:26] <bodo> dtolj_: bodo: enter the grub prompt and type root (hd0,0) then find /boot/grub/menu.1st followed by setup (hd0)
[00:26] <soundray> dtolj_: it's menu.lst (not menu.1st)
[00:26] <bodo> dtolj_: bodo: enter the grub prompt and type root (hd0,0) then find /boot/grub/menu.1st followed by setup (hd0) i've done that
[00:26] <excrete> feces
[00:27] <AdioHyperion> i would like to talk to someone when you get a chance.... im not in any hurry
[00:27] <soundray> !ops | excrete abusing channel
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[00:27] <soundray> Thanks nalioth
[00:27] <dtolj_> bodo: assuming your OS is installed on fist partition on first hd, then it will install the boot loader in at beggining of the drive
[00:28] <Mark761966> Is it safe to remove power manager?
[00:28] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: We are now on the part of the tutorial which is labelled there "Move dapper to stable" but of course in this case I think you are using a gutsy install so same step as there but with gutsy as the name
[00:28] <soundray> Mark761966: what are you trying to fix?
[00:28] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: If a feisty cd then substitute accordingly, etc etc
[00:28] <inversekinetix> can anyone explain to me how to install the new version of alien arena?
[00:28] <Mark761966> My computer keeps crashing, soundray
[00:29] <MiddleOfNowhere> so rename dapper to gutsy?
[00:29] <soundray> Mark761966: what makes you think removing power manager is going to fix it?
[00:29] <Mark761966> First the mouse and keyboard becomes unresponsive and then the HD just stops
[00:29] <domor> genii: will -phigh just iable to to recongire resolutions
[00:29] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: Follow exactly the step in the tutorial which is labelled "move daper to stable" but move gutsy to stable instead
[00:29] <laurence> i have my /home directory on a small (4GB) partition and would like to move it to a larger partition. can this be done simply by copying the directory?
[00:29] <genii> domor: Yes, thats what I said
[00:30] <MiddleOfNowhere> genii: its done copying
[00:30] <bradv> laurence: Yes. Copy it as root though.
[00:30] <Mark761966> And it's obvious that power has been cut because pressing the power on button shuts down the computer with no log out
[00:30] <laurence> thanks brad
[00:30] <dragonmc> i heard that switching window managers in KDE is a pain compared to Gnome.  is that true?
[00:30] <bradv> laurence: And you will need to change fstab to reflect that.
[00:30] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: Good, then do the move step
[00:30] <soundray> laurence: yes, copy the directory and change /etc/fstab so it mounts the new partition on /home
[00:30] <laurence> ok
[00:31] <soundray> dragonmc: yes
[00:31] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: On windows just instead rename gutsy to stable
[00:31] <MiddleOfNowhere> genii: gutsy directorY?
[00:32] <soundray> Mark761966: what this indicates is that the system is frozen. Don't shut it off with the power button when this happens
[00:32] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: Yes. Rename this to stable
[00:32] <laurence> is fstab something that I can edit in a text editor?
[00:32] <Mark761966> I can't do anything else Soundray
[00:32] <inversekinetix> can anyone explain to me how to install the new version of alien arena?
[00:32] <Mark761966> Nothing works
[00:32] <soundray> Mark761966: it's safer to hold down Ctrl-Alt-SysRq and type R E I S U B in sequence
[00:33] <Mark761966> I don't have enough fingers to do that, soundray.
[00:33] <Mark761966> I don't think anyone does
[00:33] <inversekinetix> has anyone else noticed that if you reset your computer while grub is loading it will completely bork grub and refused to boot again
[00:33] <AdioHyperion> i would like to know if installing a raid configuration with ubuntu is easy
[00:33] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: After this I will require you to use the pastebin website to paste the contents of the file isolinux.cfg         I will edit it for you. Then you will copy it to a new file called syslinux.cfg and save it back to the flash stick
[00:34] <amarrero> mneptok, i have found a solution in the mailing list of xorg ati driver
[00:34] <soundray> Mark761966: get a friend to help. I can manage this with two hands after a bit of practice (holding down SysRq with my right fifth finger)
[00:34] <dtolj_> inversekinetix: interesting didnt notice that
[00:34] <JDiver> Could someone help me with Xephyr?
[00:34] <amarrero> mneptok, if i run with mplayer -vf yuy2
[00:34] <Mark761966> Yeah, but if the keyboard is unresponsive how is it going to work? soundray
[00:34] <domor> everytime i enable my graphics card driver, restart, can't boot, box come up tick box for low resolution, load into ubuntu and go into restricted-driver-manager it's not enabled??????????
[00:34] <genii> !pastebin | MiddleOfNowhere            in case you are unfamiliar with pastebin
[00:34] <ubotu> MiddleOfNowhere            in case you are unfamiliar with pastebin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:34] <amarrero> mneptok, the movie plays fine
[00:34] <amarrero> mneptok, thanks anyway
[00:34] <inversekinetix> dtolj_: yep, I did it once by accident then again to make sure it happens,
[00:35] <soundray> Mark761966: holding down Ctrl-Alt-Sysrq makes your keyboard responsive again. You won't believe it until you've tried.
[00:35] <Mark761966> Okay
[00:35] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: So far so good?
[00:35] <Mark761966> I'll try it next time it happens
[00:35] <soundray> Mark761966: let's come back to your freezes for a sec -- does this happen randomly?
[00:35] <dtolj_> inversekinetix: thats in ubuntu ?
[00:35] <domor> anyone got geforce 8500 gt here
[00:35] <MiddleOfNowhere> so far so good
[00:35] <inversekinetix> dtolj_:  the good thing is that i managed to fix the boot and now as grub loads and ubuntu loads I get lads of text on the screen and can wow people with "computer stuff"
[00:35] <soundray> Mark761966: or have you found a way to provoke it?
[00:35] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: Good :)
[00:36] <MiddleOfNowhere> it wont let me rename gutsy directory to stable
[00:36] <dtolj_> inversekinetix: so what was the problem?
[00:36] <MiddleOfNowhere> it says there is already a file named that
[00:36] <Mark761966> It happens pretty randomly, soundray
[00:36] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: OK, let me think for a moment then
[00:36] <Jangari> what's the command to copy an entire directory and its contents to somewhere else?
[00:36] <ross42> please help ubuntu crash...don't know what to do
[00:36] <MiddleOfNowhere> its a 0kb file
[00:36] <JDiver> When ever I try to use the fast user switcher thing to open a nested login window the Xephyr window is massive and does not fit on my desktop and is unusable because of it size
[00:37] <Mark761966> Though I think I can provoke it by trying to run Fluxbuntu in Virtualbox
[00:37] <soundray> Mark761966: the first thing to check then is the RAM. In the boot menu, there is an option "memtest86". Boot that and let it run for a few hours (unless it shows errors, in which case you have to swap out RAM modules)
[00:37] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: Actually on further inspection of the tutorial the renaming step appears to be unneccesary after the dapper release :)
[00:37] <MiddleOfNowhere> kk
[00:37] <MiddleOfNowhere> good
[00:37] <MiddleOfNowhere> what next?
[00:37] <inversekinetix> dtolj_: i have no idea, it seemed to change something in menu.lst .  i repaired the mbr with a windows disk and got to the grub screen, but all the pointers were wrong, I had to edit grub then edit menu.lst so it wouldnt save default,  at least thats what i think i did
[00:37] <MiddleOfNowhere> after renaming
[00:37] <Mark761966> RAM is around 256MBs, soundray
[00:37] <un33kg331> anyone been having problem with there Usplash screen?
[00:37] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: So in this cae we proceed to the pastebin step
[00:38] <mojo> where can I find a changelog of Ubuntu kernel?
[00:38] <MiddleOfNowhere> what doi  paste?
[00:38] <soundray> Mark761966: how much you have doesn't come into it
[00:38] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: Or you can follow the step there yourself by editing and renaming the isolinux.cfg file etc etc etc
[00:38] <Cap_J_L_Picard> !pastebin
[00:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[00:38] <yago> Hi, can someone help to me, cause I've delete my ejecutable java
[00:38] <yago> I need program java /usr/bin
[00:38] <MiddleOfNowhere> what file do i paste for you?
[00:39] <Mark761966> I'll try the memtest thing tomorrow
[00:39] <yago> on /usr/bin ---->java
[00:39] <ross42> getting dpkg dependency problem error cannot boot except to recovery mode
[00:39] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: The isolinux.cfg    file
[00:39] <soundray> yago: did you install java from the ubuntu repositories?
[00:39] <yago> yes
[00:39] <Mark761966> Although I already know there's something wrong with my memory
[00:39] <soundray> yago: which package?
[00:39] <yago> but now when I want execute $java -version
[00:39] <soundray> Mark761966: change it, then
[00:39] <brandon__> Hey, can anyone tell me where Firefox stores cookies in Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon?
[00:40] <soundray> yago: which package please?
[00:40] <Mark761966> I can't afford to
[00:40] <yago> computer doesn't let me run
[00:40] <MiddleOfNowhere> what is there to paste in it?
[00:40] <un33kg331> usplash probs anyone?????
[00:40] <domor>  coudl use Ubuntu with a video card
[00:40] <soundray> Mark761966: no point disabling power manager then
[00:40] <genii> MiddleofNowhere: my battery is dying, afk while i find recharging cable
[00:40] <yago> whit synaptic
[00:40] <domor> Somoe must of hjad the same problem as me
[00:40] <Mark761966> Oh well
[00:40] <MiddleOfNowhere> ok
[00:40] <laurence> thanks again
[00:41] <Mark761966> I'm going to go now
[00:41] <soundray> domor: 'must of hjad'?
[00:41] <domor> must of had
[00:41] <Mark761966> Thanks soundray
[00:41] <un33kg331> >>>>
[00:41] <brandon__> Hey, can anyone tell me where Firefox stores cookies in Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon?
[00:41] <Mark761966> Bye
[00:41] <domor> Do other distro have problems with graphics card drivers
[00:41] <soundray> domor: that still doesn't make sense. Do you mean "must have had"?
[00:41] <domor> yea thats what i meant
[00:42] <ross42> cookies stored in home/yourusername/.mozilla/firefox/default/cookies.txt
[00:42] <domor> Im almost about to just swithc to windows again
[00:42] <brandon__> thx
[00:42] <soundray> domor: what's the problem?
[00:42] <ross42> anytime
[00:42] <inversekinetix> domor windows is easier for sure
[00:42] <domor> soundray: can;t get graphics card to work, driver problem
[00:42] <genii> MiddleofNowhere: Back. What to do, is open the file up in wordpad or the vista equivelent. Then select everything in the file, copy it.  I decided to install ubuntu to my computer again.. and now I cant get it working.. :O it used to be there on the upper panel where you could choose your input system.. :I
[00:43] <MiddleOfNowhere> kk
[00:43] <dav1> anybody know if you can add print job to a cups server remotely?
[00:44] <soundray> eke: 'sudo apt-get install anthy' ?
[00:44] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: I will edit the pastebin contents. Then give you a new pastebin url. You copy all  in there to a new file called syslinux.cfg and save that to where the isolinux.cfg file was
[00:44] <dav1> basically I want to print from a uni comp to home printet
[00:44] <MiddleOfNowhere> kk
[00:44] <MiddleOfNowhere> pasting it now
[00:44] <dtolj_> How to list all available deb packages from bash?
[00:45] <MiddleOfNowhere> what kinda syntax?
[00:45] <soundray> dav1: you can open the cups print spooler remotely, but that's not recommended
[00:45] <eke> soundray: I have installed it already.. doesnt show up :O and I dont know how to put the settings to get it visible.. :O
[00:45] <Damjan> Hi, how to upgrade distro from alternative cd?
[00:45] <JDiver> When ever I try to use the fast user switcher thing to open a nested login window the Xephyr window is massive and does not fit on my desktop and is unusable because of it size
[00:45] <dav1> why is it not recommended?
[00:45] <inversekinetix> domor windows is not sthi\
[00:45] <MiddleOfNowhere> text only?
[00:46] <bodo> dtolj  i've done as you told me my pc boots centOS and windows only
[00:46] <cafuego> dtolj_: grep ^Package /var/lib/apt/lists/* |awk -F: '{print $2}'
[00:46] <ross42> sorry to keep repeating, but Ubuntu has fallen and I cannot get it up...what should I try?
[00:46] <AdioHyperion> i still need help when ever someone gets a chance
[00:46] <dtolj_> cafuego: thanks
[00:46] <Damjan> bodo: Why do u have windows?
[00:46] <MiddleOfNowhere> text only syntax?
[00:46] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: yes, straight text
[00:46] <MiddleOfNowhere> k posting
[00:46] <MiddleOfNowhere> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45521/
[00:47] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: Reading.returning shortly
[00:47] <soundray> eke: don't know why that is, but for now you can probably start it with Alt-F2 anthy-agent
[00:47] <MiddleOfNowhere> genii: brb
[00:47] <domor> soundray: insatlled restricted-driver now when i boot it stuggles to then a box come up "use low resolution" i ticked that then it boots up i log in, go to restricted driver manager and th enable box it "unticked". need help to get drievr going!!
[00:47] <GanjaBuntu> someone told me ubuntu is the name of a Zulu godess?
[00:47] <dav1> Any body know how I can add printjbs to cups remotely?
[00:47] <dtolj_> bodo: you have to specify where Ubuntu is installed on which partition do you know? and then acordingly set the root (hd0,?)
[00:48] <soundray> domor: nvidia or ati?
[00:48] <domor> soundray: nvidia
[00:48] <GanjaBuntu> matrox
[00:48]  * GanjaBuntu S_INVALID
[00:48]  * GanjaBuntu meows'
[00:48] <eke> soundray: should something happen? does nothing... :I
[00:49] <tarelerulz> I got a HP Pavilioin  DV660cl and I was wondering is it hard to dual boot ubuntu and Vista ?
[00:49] <domor> ubuntu is an african word "means humanness to the pople" or something like that
[00:49] <Yoke> i have a folder full of deb files. how do i install them all without click on each one?
[00:49] <Pelo> GanjaBuntu, don't make me warn you again, the ops don't like ppl being off topic in here, this is a support channel, if you don't need support please don't interfere with ppl who do
[00:49]  * oxxen contimplates suicide.. Ive tried many ndiswrapper howtos to get wifi (WEP) working on gutsy, to no avail can anyone help me out, Im running dell truemobile 1300 wlan card, broadcom 4306 chipset, anyone any ideas, im really at my wits end
[00:50] <domor> soundray: wnay idea
[00:50] <Jangari> what's the bash command to run a wine program?
[00:50] <bodo> dtolj_: bodo: you have to specify where Ubuntu is installed on which partition do you know? and then acordingly set the root (hd0,?) yeah
[00:50] <Pelo> Yoke, you can make a command line wiht sudo dpkg filename filename etc
[00:50] <domor> soundray: any idea? correct spelling*
[00:50] <scguy318> Jangari: drop the word bash and the command is: wine program
[00:50] <TV-VCR> Hello
[00:50] <TV-VCR> I need help
[00:50] <scguy318> Jangari: since what I wrote is not bash-specific
[00:50] <soundray> domor: have a bit of patience
[00:50] <inversekinetix> why does the ubuntu installer recognise drive names randomly?
[00:50] <Jangari> sweet, thanka scguy318
[00:50] <Jangari> s/thanka/thanks
[00:50] <JDiver> When ever I try to use the fast user switcher thing to open a nested login window the Xephyr window is massive and does not fit on my desktop and is unusable because of it size.  How can I make it smaller?
[00:50] <TV-VCR> I cannot install ubuntu
[00:51] <TV-VCR> Error comes up
[00:51] <soundray> domor: the agent is probably running now. Try Alt-F2 anthy-dic-tool
[00:51] <dtolj_> TV-VCR: what error?
[00:51] <Jangari> hmm,
[00:51] <TV-VCR> It cannot create a partition
[00:51] <Pelo> TV-VCR,  what error ?
[00:51] <Yoke> pelo: how do i make a line? remember i want to install all the deb files auto.
[00:51] <soundray> domor: sorry, I've never used it myself -- just looking at the list of files in the package
[00:51] <oxxen> !wifi
[00:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:51] <domor> soundray: im a newbie?
[00:51] <eke> soundray: what could be possibly wrong? still nothing.....
[00:51] <TV-VCR> I get this with installer: http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot3og0.png
[00:51] <Jangari> how do i get the .exe into wine's 'system32' directory?
[00:51] <Pelo> TV-VCR, pre partiton your hdd using  menu > ystem> admin > gnome partiton editor then use the manual partitonning bit in the installer
[00:51] <TV-VCR> And this with parted: http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot5ew1.png
[00:52] <TV-VCR> *Gparted
[00:52] <dav1> soundray:everybody loves to talk to you
[00:52] <inversekinetix> Jangari what are you trying to do?
[00:52] <TV-VCR> Gparted does not work
[00:52] <GanjaBuntu> im patient
[00:52] <Jangari> create a launcher for this program
[00:52] <GanjaBuntu> im sitting in general hospital
[00:52] <Pelo> Yoke, make the line in gedit first, then copy it to the terminal when all the packages are listed
[00:52] <TV-VCR> Why is this?
[00:52] <bodo> dtolj_: bodo: you have to specify where Ubuntu is installed on which partition do you know? and then acordingly set the root (hd0,?) yeah it's on 5 so i wrote root(hd0,4) and nothing new
[00:53] <dav1> GANGABUNTU:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA /twat
[00:53] <TV-VCR> Drive is Seagate barracuda 7200 (or something) RPM, 500 GB, SATA 3.0
[00:53] <dtolj_> TV-VCR: wow the error is not very descriptive where you trying to create a primary or logical partition?
[00:53] <TV-VCR> Primary
[00:53] <Yoke> Pelo:i don't understand
[00:53] <Pelo> TV-VCR, try manual partitoniing first,  if that doesn't work I know some sata need to be set to legacy mode in the bios to work properly
[00:53] <domor> Frustarting ubuntu!
[00:53] <eke> maybe I should give up...  Save to a file called syslinux.cfg     in the same place on usb stick where isolinux.cfg was.
[00:54] <TV-VCR> This is setyp http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8533/screenshotinstall1aj4.png
[00:54] <soundray> eke: sorry, I addressed the wrong nick
[00:54] <dtolj_> bodo: once you enter root (hd0,4) do you get a message with the file system type, that would indicate its the correct partition.
[00:54] <domor> ekeL ive realoded ubuntu twice in a rage to get my graphics card working but still no sucess
[00:54] <Jangari> hmm, lauchers don't operate using command lines, do they? as in, what you enter as the 'command' isn't a terminal command, right?
[00:54] <Yoke> Pelo:can you send me a image how to do it?
[00:54] <soundray> domor: have you tried Alt-F2 anthy-dic-tool
[00:55] <Pelo> Yoke,  open gedit,  type out  sudo dpkg (list each deb file here)    when you have finished creating the command ,   open a terminal,  cd to folder where all the deb files are lisetd , then copy the command from gedit and hit henter
[00:55] <soundray> eke: have you tried Alt-F2 anthy-dic-tool
[00:55] <domor> soundrayL yip
[00:55] <Pelo> Yoke,  no image this is comnmand line
[00:55] <eke> domor: I have done the same with my ati.. hahaha =D
[00:55] <Pelo> dav1,  I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[00:55] <soundray> domor: sorry, that wasn't for you...
[00:55] <Flare183> Are there any app launchers for ubuntu?
[00:55] <hikenboot> gretings all...happy thanksgiving...anyone know what I might have done wrong building a usb encrypted thumb drive with grub so that it would come up with a grub prompt that says minimal grub supported?
[00:55] <TV-VCR> How do I set to legacy?
[00:55] <bodo> dtolj_: bodo: once you enter root (hd0,4) do you get a message with the file system type, that would indicate its the correct partition.    i think so ...
[00:55] <Flare183> there has to be
[00:55] <domor> eke: got it working yet?
[00:55] <soundray> domor: did you go through 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'?
[00:55] <TV-VCR> The hard drive?
[00:55] <Pelo> Flare183,  the menu , or you can make launcher for individuals apps you want by right clicking on the desktop and selecting create launcher
[00:56] <domor> soundray: yes
[00:56] <domor> sounrday: manytimes
[00:56] <dav1> Pelo:sorry - do you know if it is possible to add job to a cup server remotely?
[00:56] <Flare183> pelo:> no like mac's docker
[00:56] <Pelo> dav1,  I don't
[00:56] <domor> soundra: i don;t really know what to change in there, heaps of peole said to change stuff
[00:56] <dtolj_> TV-VCR: setup seems ok
[00:56] <eke> domor: yup.. didnt knwo what I did but got it working when I was just about to give up.. haha
[00:56] <TV-VCR> However it fails
[00:56] <Jangari> Pelo: what does one enter as the 'command'? is there any specific syntax?
[00:56] <Pelo> Flare183, google for avant window navigator
[00:56] <eke> soundray: nono.. nothing!
[00:56] <TV-VCR> What I do to fix this problem, I donot know :(
[00:56] <domor> eke: can you help me
[00:56] <Pelo> Jangari,  command for what ?
[00:56] <Jangari> a launcher
[00:56] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: When this is done the stick should be ready :)
[00:57] <tarelerulz> Do any of you know of any good open source program for vista that burn iso? I am trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 this computer
[00:57] <Dr_willis> avant window navigator is neat.. but has some issues.
[00:57] <dtolj_> TV-VCR: are you applying all those changes at once, try doing it one partition at a time to see if it works
[00:57] <Pelo> Jangari, the command would jsut be the name of the app , usualy
[00:57] <soundray> eke: maybe read /usr/share/doc/anthy/README.Debian
[00:57] <genii> tarelerulz: google cdburnerxp pro
[00:57] <Dr_willis> tarelerulz,  'burn at one' is another decent tool for windows
[00:57] <Jangari> okay
[00:57] <eke> domor: I dont know s*it about those things.. sorry.. I think I wouldnt be much of a help :(
[00:57] <Flare183> Pelo:> Not anything that requires any gtk packages. I am using kde not gnome stricty kde
[00:57] <genii> Well, it's free but not open source :)
[00:57] <sjovan> hey guys, can some one help me out with VNC and some portfwd on PM? got a lot of questions
[00:58] <domor> eke: newbie? becasue i am
[00:58] <Pelo>  Jangari and since this is linux and not windows no need for paths
[00:58] <tarelerulz> Thank , Dr_willis and Genii  I will get too it.
[00:58] <Pelo> Flare183, check for kdockers in the package managare in kubuntu
[00:58] <JDiver> When ever I try to use the fast user switcher thing to open a nested login window the Xephyr window is massive and does not fit on my desktop and is unusable because of it size.  How can I make it smaller?
[00:58] <domor> Oes anyone run a geforce gt8500 gt in ubuntu?
[00:58] <eke> domor: havent played with linux for a long time.. =D newbie.. yes
[00:58] <domor> does anyone run a geforce gt8500 gt in ubuntu?
[00:58] <AdioHyperion> is installing a raid configuration simple with ubuntu?
[00:58] <Pelo> domor, several ppl I think ,
[00:58] <Pelo> !nvidia | domor
[00:58] <ubotu> domor: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:59] <Flare183> kk
[00:59] <domor> peolo: are you
[00:59] <Pelo> !raid | AdioHyperion
[00:59] <ubotu> AdioHyperion: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[00:59] <EruditeHermit> hi, is there an application that displays the system information?
[00:59] <soundray> !burniso | tarelerulz
[00:59] <soundray> ubotu: are you out to lunch?
[00:59] <ubotu> tarelerulz: To burn an ISO image of a CD in Linux, Mac OS or Windows, read the howto at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[00:59] <AdioHyperion> ty
[00:59] <domor> poelo: yea i have treyd restricted dirv manager it doesn;t work i reoobt and it says it's not enabled
[00:59] <Pelo> domor,  no I don't I have a cheap onboard intel card
[00:59] <Pelo> domor,  my nick is pelo , not poelo
[00:59] <eke> soundray: yes.. it tells me that it is a japanese method system.. nothing useful in that I think :(
[00:59] <domor> pelo: mistake
[00:59] <MiddleOfNowhere> so do i delete isolinux.cfg?
[00:59] <MiddleOfNowhere> and replace with syslinux.cfg?
[00:59] <domor> is soundray still about
[01:00] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: You can if you like but it's not needed
[01:00] <Jangari> Pelo: i'm creating a launcher for a wine app. it seems to work as a location laucher
[01:00] <TV-VCR> dtolj, it still fail :|
[01:00] <MiddleOfNowhere> kk
[01:00] <soundray> domor: sorry, I haven't got any good suggestions
[01:00] <Jangari> if not a little delayed
[01:00] <TV-VCR> I get error message
[01:00] <Pelo> domor, it is piossible that the driver does not support your card,  or , is that computer connected to the internet , itmight need to dl some files to work
[01:00] <TV-VCR> Pelo: Might you have any idea why?
[01:00] <domor> pelo: im on that comp now
[01:00] <AdioHyperion> i am wanting to install ubuntu on 2 harddrives that have never been used before
[01:00] <Pelo> Jangari, wine is different,  you need to make the command line   wine /path/to/exe/file.exe
[01:00] <AdioHyperion> totally new system
[01:00] <MiddleOfNowhere> save it in same directory?
[01:01] <domor> Do other distro have problems wiht drivers
[01:01] <bodo> dtolj_: bodo: once you enter root (hd0,4) do you get a message with the file system type, that would indicate its the correct partition. yeah i do as i think
[01:01] <Jangari> ah, i see
[01:01] <soundray> AdioHyperion: why do you want RAID?
[01:01] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: After this, set the computer's bios to boot from usb stick/device on the one you are putting ubuntu on and try to see if it worked by booting it with the usb stick in there
[01:01] <Jangari> thanks pelo, i'll play around with it
[01:01] <dav1> sooo...cups servers.....anyone know how to add a print job remotely?
[01:01] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: yES, SAME DIR
[01:01] <NineTeen67Comet> I've got a few machines that all have Gutsy, and all loose their network after reboot (2xwireless and 1xcat5) .. If I just mash the power button down and make it do a hard re-boot the cat5 box will pick back up for a while .. help?
[01:01] <MiddleOfNowhere> kk
[01:01] <genii> bah capslock
[01:01] <MiddleOfNowhere> brb
[01:01] <Pelo> TV-VCR, try with the alternate install cd   get it fromt eh www.ubuntu.com site,   check the alternate cd box below the download button before hitting the download button
[01:01] <AdioHyperion> i am going to setup a server and i want to use 2 500gb hard drives
[01:01] <eke> soundray: any suggestions left? :O
[01:01] <bradv> dav1: Go to http://computername:631/
[01:01] <TV-VCR> Pelo, I try, it not work
[01:02] <Pelo> TV-VCR,  did you try to manualy partitioon the driver first ?
[01:02]  * genii takes a brief mental vacation
[01:02] <TV-VCR> IYes
[01:02] <cafuego> AdioHyperion: use the alternate or server install cd, and chosoe manual partioning, that will allow you to setup raid.
[01:02] <TV-VCR> With installer
[01:02] <TV-VCR> Ubuntu installer anyways
[01:02] <dtolj_> bodo: still nothing?
[01:02] <soundray> eke: sorry, I'm not familiar with anthy at all, so I don't know how it *should* work
[01:02] <Pelo> TV-VCR, try before the installer from the desktop , make 3 partitons,  one /  5-10 gig ,  2xram for swap, and the rest for /home
[01:02] <domor> i think it's time to TERMINATE my ubuntu and be an xp user
[01:02] <domor> i can;t seem to find help
[01:03] <dav1> yea I can get to the webui but i there are no options to add a printjob - only deletle them - Basically I want to be able to print from a university computer to my home printer...
[01:03] <TV-VCR> Pelo, that what I have done
[01:03]  * oxxen contimplates suicide.. Ive tried many ndiswrapper howtos to get wifi (WEP) working on gutsy, to no avail can anyone help me out, Im running dell truemobile 1300 wlan card, broadcom 4306 chipset, anyone any ideas, im really at my wits end
[01:03] <TV-VCR> It not work either
[01:03] <bodo> dtolj yeah still nothing
[01:03] <AdioHyperion> ok i will try that... thanks
[01:03] <Pelo> TV-VCR, can you try with another hdd ?
[01:03] <TV-VCR> I have
[01:03] <TV-VCR> It give same error :(
[01:03] <bradv> domor: You can do that if you like. Why don't you try telling us your problem first?
[01:03] <Pelo> TV-VCR, do a cd integrity check , from the cd menu
[01:03] <TV-VCR> I check disk integfrity and it ok
[01:03] <soundray> domor: ask again in an hour or so. Sometimes it takes a few attempts to find someone who can help
[01:03] <AfterDeath> if you've got nothing important on the harddrive, you could try dd'ing the harddrive (either in write or read mode)
[01:03] <Pelo> TV-VCR, checksum then
[01:03] <AfterDeath> I'd bet that the harddrive is not hooked up properly or such
[01:04] <inversekinetix> domor get the XP powertoys, you can also get the cube desktop for it now
[01:04] <TV-VCR> Memory is god
[01:04] <TV-VCR> *good
[01:04] <Pelo> !checksum | TV-VCR
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about checksum - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <cafuego> AdioHyperion: I use raid1 and raid5 (with lvm on top)  on a 3 disk server, works absolutely fine.
[01:04] <eke> soundray: just like any other IME.. the only problem is that it looks like it doesnt start up at all.. :(
[01:04] <Pelo> !md5 | TV-VCR
[01:04] <john_> cd873f213f59784f1dd04694e852002e
[01:04] <ubotu> TV-VCR: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[01:04] <TV-VCR> I have also checked md5 hash
[01:04] <TV-VCR> it match one on site
[01:04] <domor> Ive been trying for 2 weeks to fix this problem!!1
[01:04] <soundray> eke: IME?
[01:04] <AfterDeath> checksum = md5sum /dev/cdrom =)
[01:04] <Pelo> TV-VCR, I'm stumped,  did you try another distro ?
[01:04] <TV-VCR> I want ubuntu
[01:04] <Pelo> domor,  did you try the binairy drivers &?
[01:05] <TV-VCR> But I suppose I can try gentoo, but I really do want ubuntu
[01:05] <AfterDeath> TV-VCR: trying another distro nonetheless, would be useful simply to see if it's ubuntu-related or harddrive-related
[01:05] <Pelo> TV-VCR, how many hdd on your comp ?
[01:05] <domor> Pelo something about the kernel
[01:05] <TV-VCR> Pelo, 3
[01:05] <TV-VCR> 1 is occupy by windows
[01:05] <eke> soundray: sorry.. Im mixing windowss terms here.. it means Input Method Editor..
[01:06] <AdioHyperion> the ubuntu server install is only available on amd64?
[01:06] <Pelo> TV-VCR, physicaly disconnect all the other hdd (just the power will do) then try installing again
[01:06] <soundray> AdioHyperion: no
[01:06] <mneptok> AdioHyperion: no
[01:06] <NineTeen67Comet> When I kindly shutdown -r now my machines network drops on boot, but if I unkindly mash the power button down and turn it back on, my wireless keeps working .. is it killing it in rc.local?
[01:06] <oxxen> Anyone usiing the broadcom restricted driver here?
[01:06] <TV-VCR> Pelo I have!!
[01:06] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: Let me know if it starts booting, or if not, if not what error messages or so on etc etc
[01:06] <TV-VCR> I think I have try almost everything
[01:06] <Pelo> domor,  what about the kernel ?
[01:06] <bodo> dtolj, no thing new the same problem it boots from centos and windows only
[01:06] <Pelo> TV-VCR, then , and I am very sorry to say this,  it might be time to give up
[01:06] <dav1> oxygen: I am
[01:07] <TV-VCR> ok
[01:07] <Pelo> TV-VCR,  did you try 6.06 ? or 7.04 ?
[01:07] <bradv> oxxen: You have two choices, fwcutter or ndiswrapper. Go with fwcutter first.
[01:07] <domor> im goign to try again
[01:07] <TV-VCR> Yes
[01:07] <TV-VCR> What does sudo fdisk -l in terminal do?
[01:07] <domor> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-638b69986bff87ad112df8fe71ca32abadb81c8c-2
[01:07] <domor> how do you find what kernel your running
[01:07] <JDiver> uname -a
[01:07] <eke> soundray: do you know how to get the SCIM working.. if the problem is there.. I dont remember if it showd up through SCIM.. grr
[01:07] <oxxen> bradv, I got that installed, i thought it was really flakey and speed was terrible, do you find the same?
[01:07] <dav1> I bet windows doesn't have any of these problems.....
[01:07] <Pelo> TV-VCR, check the disk for error,  not sure what the -I option does
[01:07] <JDiver> When ever I try to use the fast user switcher thing to open a nested login window the Xephyr window is massive and does not fit on my desktop and is unusable because of it size.  How can I make it smaller?
[01:07] <NineTeen67Comet> TV-VCR: fdisk -l will show you all the devices and partitions connected ..
[01:07] <oxxen> dav1, How do you find it?
[01:08] <AfterDeath> NineTeen67Comet: try something like "shutdown -rn now" - (that's almost the equivalent of a forced instant reboot, but a bit safer) - if you still have the problem, it's probably a machine issue with your card + a warm boot
[01:08] <Pelo> dav1, windows has it's own set of problems
[01:08]  * NineTeen67Comet l will show a list of everything
[01:08] <dav1> oxxen: its really good!
[01:08] <soundray> eke: System-Preferences-SCIM setup
[01:08] <oxxen> dav1, really? inet access was really sloooow..
[01:08] <bodo> dav1: windows is an open gate system for hackers
[01:08] <Mark761966> Hey soundray, I know what;'s happening
[01:08] <NineTeen67Comet> AfterDeath: This happens on 3 separate machines .. 2wireless and 1 cooper ..
[01:08] <Mark761966> My hard drive keeps stopping
[01:08] <soundray> Mark761966: so?
[01:08] <AfterDeath> NineTeen67Comet: same wireless card?
[01:09] <AfterDeath> oh
[01:09] <domor> how do i find what kernel im running
[01:09] <AfterDeath> hrm
[01:09] <soundray> domor: uname -a
[01:09] <Pelo> domor,  uname -r
[01:09] <genii> domor: uname -r
[01:09] <bradv> oxxen: I don't have that driver. If fwcutter doesn't work try ndiswrapper.
[01:09] <genii> also -a
[01:09] <NineTeen67Comet> AfterDeath: no, one is a desktop box with wireless, an HP notebook wireless and my server that's always been a champ until Gutsy Server edition ..
[01:09] <genii> :)
[01:09] <dtolj_> bodo: it should pick up the stage files from hd0,4 and put them in MBR
[01:09] <oxxen> dav1, did you try Ndis at all?
[01:09] <dav1> oxxen:I haven't noticed it - im getting the maxium download.upload speed for my connectyion
[01:09]  * Pelo wants a few easy questions to answer he's starting to feel useless
[01:10] <Dr_willis> Pelo,  whats your favorite color?
[01:10]  * soundray knows the feeling
[01:10] <oxxen> dav1, I may try it again
[01:10] <bodo> dtolj_: bodo: it should pick up the stage files from hd0,4 and put them in MBR
[01:10] <bodo> donnot under stant clear plz?
[01:10] <Dr_willis> Pelo,  whats the airspeed of a laden swallow? :)
[01:10] <RoRza> Hi ... I need help on this
[01:10] <domor> what does this mean: ind the appropriate package for your kernel. For example, if you have linux-image-amd64-k8 installed, then you should install linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8.
[01:10] <AfterDeath> Dr_willis: African or European?
[01:10] <Pelo> Dr_willis,  that's one of those psychological questions right ? if I tell you I like purple you will report me as a child molester right ?
[01:10]  * NineTeen67Comet African or European?
[01:10] <genii> Pelo: Be careful :) some of those are trick questions
[01:10] <Dr_willis> AfterDeath, .... i dont know.... aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh....
[01:10] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:10] <AfterDeath> :D
[01:10] <domor> what a linux-image-amd64-k8 what does it mean by that
[01:11] <Pelo> Dr_willis,  affrican swallow or european swallow ?
[01:11] <soundray> domor: what do you get from uname -r ?
[01:11] <RoRza> I have problem installing ...can anyone help ?
[01:11]  * Pelo is ueless an sslow
[01:11] <dtolj_> bodo: boot into cent, mount hd0,4 check what the entry for Ubuntu is, and copy it to the active boot partition
[01:11] <Pelo> RoRza,  what part of it is troubling you ?
[01:11] <Mark761966> Why would my hard drive just stop?
[01:11] <domor> soundray: ind the appropriate package for your kernel. For example, if you have linux-image-amd64-k8 installed, then you should install linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8.
[01:11] <bradv> Mark761966: Stop working? or stop spinning?
[01:12] <soundray> domor: answer my question please
[01:12] <Pelo> Mark761966,  damage hdd ? nicked data cable, power supply problems, take your pick
[01:12] <Mark761966> It stops spinning
[01:12] <domor> soundray: sorry i was meant to
[01:12] <NineTeen67Comet> Hello all, if I am having issues with rebooting and loosing my network, could it be an issue with rc.local? Or something shutting them down on reboot but not on boot? Since I can do the power button thing and they work, I'm assuming it is a shutdown script somewhere..
[01:12] <zealot> hey, does anyone know where wine's C: drive is?
[01:12] <RoRza> Pelo, : I have downloaded Apata which is an IDE and I want to install it on Ubuntu.  But dont know how to go about
[01:12] <eke> soundray: yeah.. and I have tried every option from there.. hmm maybe I have missed one.. maybe left box unchecked.. 0.0 I have been procrastinatin with this.. too long! oh my! wanna get it fixed now.. whether it takes this nite sleep.. or even the next days..
[01:12] <soundray> Mark761966: how old is it?
[01:12] <domor> soundray: Linux nick-desktop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:12] <RoRza> Pelo, : I extracted the file on the Desktop
[01:12] <MinusSeven> I have to say, having tried Kubuntu, and Ubuntu, Ubuntu seems a lot better
[01:12] <bradv> Mark761966: You may have an inadequate power supply.
[01:12] <Pelo> RoRza,  start by looking in synpatic to make sure there isn'T a pre compiled package available
[01:12] <Mark761966> Less than six months old, Soundray
[01:13] <NineTeen67Comet> zealot: should be /home/~user/.wine/ .. and look around in there ..
[01:13] <Pelo> RoRza, menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager
[01:13] <eke> soundray: but thank you for your effort! =)
[01:13] <RoRza> synpatic ?  you mean from the Add/Remove sction ?
[01:13] <Mark761966> What can I do about the power suppy, bradv?
[01:13] <soundray> domor: then you should install linux-restricted-modules-generic
[01:13] <bradv> Mark761966: Go to your local computer store and buy a new one.
[01:13] <zealot> NineTeen67Comet: Thanks
[01:13] <Mark761966> :(
[01:13] <Pelo> RoRza, add remove also works if it is an app,  synaptic is another front end for apt but it lists all the packages, libs and such as well
[01:13] <NineTeen67Comet> RoRza: Synaptic handles everything, add/remove can only do individual apps ..
[01:14] <bradv> Mark761966: And don't cheap out either. $30 won't buy you a good power supply, $75 will.
[01:14] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: Alive over there? :)
[01:14] <domor> soundrway: they allreayd installed
[01:14] <soundray> Mark761966: install smartmontools and check your hard disk drive with the tools in that package
[01:14] <Mark761966> I don't have $75
[01:14] <domor> why can't ubuntu just install drivers and they work
[01:14] <Mark761966> Okay soundray
[01:14] <soundray> domor: okay, continue following the wiki help then
[01:14]  * NineTeen67Comet is there a front end for aptitude? me likes aptitude better than apt-get ..
[01:14] <genii> !patience |genii
[01:15] <Pelo> NineTeen67Comet, check in synaptic
[01:15] <domor> soundrway: should i uninstall my restricted driver first
[01:15] <bradv> domor: There are lots of reasons for that. If you have hardware where the vendor won't cooperate with Linux, then you are going to have lots of problems. That's why you don't buy ATI, for example.
[01:15] <eke> domor: coz it would be too easy.. everyone neeeds challenges.. eh??? =D
[01:15] <NineTeen67Comet> Pelo: good idea .. ;)
[01:15] <soundray> domor: no
[01:15] <Jangari> because the company that developed the driver doesn't want you to be able to use it at your leisure, domor
[01:15] <RoRza> Pelo, ; Yes apata its listed
[01:15] <Pelo> RoRza,  then just install it from there,  always check for a pre compiled package first , much easier
[01:16] <soundray> domor: if you're unhappy about this situation, ask NVidia to support the development of free drivers for their cards.
[01:16] <eke> domor: or just use windows.. lol =D
[01:16] <meoblast001> hello
[01:16] <soundray> domor: emphasize that by "free" you mean "open source" according to the definition of OSI
[01:16] <RoRza> which one is the pre compiled ?
[01:17] <meoblast001> i couldnt find screenlets in the Canonical repositories and the site is down, does anyone have the deb?
[01:17] <RoRza> Pelo, :  There are 4 on the list should I pick up the zapatel-source ?
[01:17] <Pelo> domor,  please understand that we do try to help but it is not like we are sitting in front of your computer to try stuff out on our own,  and there are occasions when it doesn't work for some reason , nothing is perfect,  I recommend you review the documentation available, on the forum, in the wiki , on google, and try to figure out where (if) you went wrong,  be very diligent about following intructions
[01:17] <Flare183> How can I join the #ubuntu-southcarolina's loco team?
[01:17] <AdioHyperion> one last question... is there a limited to the number of internal hard drives ubuntu can handle?
[01:18] <domor> pelo: ok
[01:18] <Pelo> RoRza, hold on , let me check
[01:18] <Mark761966> Which submenu should smartmontools be in, soundray?
[01:18] <bradv> AdioHyperion: Probably. But you'll never reach it. Limitations are with your hardware.
[01:18] <genii> Pelo: Please stress again about diligence in reading the documentation
[01:18] <domor> is installing binary driver differetn to letting restricted-drver-manager do it
[01:18] <AdioHyperion> so i could technically use 6 hard drives if there is space for them on my motherboard?
[01:18] <ari_stress> morning2 :D
[01:18] <soundray> AdioHyperion: yes
[01:19] <AdioHyperion> cool
[01:19] <AdioHyperion> i thank you all for your help - have a nice day
[01:19] <soundray> domor: the problem is most likely your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:19] <Pelo> RoRza,  I suggest you install the one called zaptel , if the others are needed for it to work they will get checked as well
[01:19] <domor> domor: yea probaly is i don;t now anything a im a totla newbie
[01:20] <soundray> Mark761966: they are command line tools. Look at the documentation in /usr/share/doc/smartmontools
[01:20] <RoRza> Pelo, : actually there is nothing I have misspelled the word Aptana
[01:20] <meoblast001> does anyone know where i can get Screenlets?
[01:20] <Flare183> Can I join South Carolina's LoCo team?
[01:20] <ari_stress> meoblast001: what is screenlets?
[01:20] <Pelo> RoRza,  and to answer your question, all the packages in synaptic are pre-compiled for ubuntu
[01:20] <bradv> !info screenlets
[01:20] <ubotu> Package screenlets does not exist in gutsy
[01:20] <meoblast001> ari_stress: its a widget system
[01:20] <soundray> Mark761966: or ask the channel for specific suggestions on how to examine your drive with those tools.
[01:20] <Pelo> RoRza,  let me check again
[01:21] <RoRza> Pelo, check for Aptana
[01:21] <Pelo> RoRza, ok so there isn't one,  you need to compile manualy
[01:21] <peacepipej1> hi, i interrupted a dpkg and tried to purge the app. It gave me this: " dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." it didnt help me
[01:21] <soundray> Mark761966: you may have to enable S.M.A.R.T. monitoring in the BIOS setup
[01:21] <Pelo> RoRza, close synaptic and add/remove if you have them open
[01:21] <peacepipej1> i dont know what im doing
[01:21] <Pelo> RoRza, then open a terminal and type  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:21] <bradv> peacepipej1: Did you run dpkg --configure -a  ?
[01:21] <Yoke> i don't know much about computer, so can some tell me step by step how to install all my deb files automatic ?
[01:21] <bradv> !yum
[01:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yum - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <Sp3c1alK> helllllo
[01:22] <Mark761966> I don't think I have a BIOS setup, soundray
[01:22] <Pelo> peacepipej1, open synaptic,  select the filter button on the lower left,  check broken packages and remove then
[01:22] <peacepipej1> bradv: yea, but I dont know what to do next
[01:23] <soundray> Mark761966: what kind of computer do you have?
[01:23] <Pelo> Yoke,  i told you 3 times already , you didn,t listen , install them manualy one by one, if you had started doing that and hour ago you would be done by now
[01:23] <peacepipej1> Pelo: cook, ill try that, I should have thought of that
[01:23] <Sp3c1alK> So I installed ubuntu desktop to my hard drive partition, but now when I select ubuntu as my operating system to boot into, all I get is a black screen, I've waited 15 minutes for it to come up..but nothing..why?
[01:23] <Pelo> peacepipej1,  no garranties
[01:23] <Mark761966> Compaq desktop
[01:23] <RoRza> Pelo, oI did type
[01:23] <Yoke> pelo:there is more then 2000 deb files
[01:24] <Pelo> Sp3c1alK, boot the recovery mode and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg select your videocard if listed if not use vesa
[01:24] <Yoke> pelo:i know there is a way i just don't know how.
[01:24] <Pelo> Yoke,  look in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:24] <RoRza> Pelo, I get the foloing error
[01:24] <peacepipej1> Pelo: nope, it wont even let me open synaptic cuz of the error. Same error message pops up
[01:24] <RoRza> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:24] <RoRza> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:24] <soundray> Yoke: it doesn't make sense to install all packages. Install only the software that you need
[01:24] <Pelo> RoRza,  I said , close synaptic and add/remove
[01:24] <Mark761966> How do I change the BIOS settings, soundray
[01:25] <soundray> Mark761966: you enter the BIOS setup by hitting Del or F2 in the early phase of booting
[01:25] <genii> Sp3c1alK: Try hitting enter key. Or it could be you have 2 video cards/dual-head and video goes to the other one. Does it boot to failsafe kernel?
[01:25] <Mark761966> YOu mean when I turn the computer on, soundray?
[01:25] <Yoke> sounddray:this deb files i have was the backup files.
[01:25] <soundray> Mark761966: there is normally a message on the screen
[01:25] <domor> in my rest5ited driver manager says card in use and it;s anable
[01:25] <Mark761966> I'll try that then
[01:25] <soundray> Yoke: 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb'
[01:25] <RoRza> Pelo, :ok  now its working.  what do I do next
[01:25] <domor> but why can;t i use desktop visual effects
[01:26] <bradv> domor: Is that your problem? You have the driver working find but compiz won't work?
[01:26] <Pelo> RoRza,  whatyo just installed were the basics needed to compile manualy,  the next bit is in 4 steps, all in the terminal, ready ?
[01:26] <bradv> domor: fine*
[01:26] <Yoke> soundray:will that install all my deb files
[01:26] <Sp3c1alK> genii: I am running 1 video card and 2 monitors, that could be a problem? Also, when I boot into recovery mode i get soemthing that says: desktop->kevin (or something like that)
[01:26] <domor> bradv: think i just got the driver wokring hten
[01:27] <bthornton> I've just downloaded the Ubuntu "Gutsy" ISO.  Anyone know if it would be possible to "burn" this to a USB flash drive and then boot from it?
[01:27] <monke1> anyone installed bluetooth obex client on ppc?
[01:27] <soundray> Yoke: all those that are in the present working directory
[01:27] <domor> bradv: and ic an;t chnage th resolution
[01:27] <domor> anyway i can test if graphics card actually working
[01:27] <peacepipej1> Pelo: never mind that last problem
[01:27] <Pelo> RoRza,  you already unpacked the archive to your desktop,  in the terminal type cd and thename of the unpacked folder ,  cd foldername
[01:27] <genii> Sp3c1alK: recovery mode indicates successful install. The x server seems to be issue. Any video on the second monitor?
[01:27] <bradv> domor: System Preferences Screen Resolution
[01:27] <Pelo> peacepipej1,  I wasn't anyway, I kind of lost track of everyone I was helping
[01:28] <soundray> !install | bthornton, scroll down the install page
[01:28] <ubotu> bthornton, scroll down the install page: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[01:28] <Sp3c1alK> no video on either monitors, if I do get video it's only to display the boot screen, and the logging
[01:28] <domor> only 800x600 & 640x480
[01:28] <genii> Sp\
[01:28] <domor> bradv: only 800x600 & 640x480
[01:28] <genii> bah
[01:28] <domor> is there any way i can see if graphics card actualyl working
[01:28] <Sp3c1alK> and that's only on 1 monitor
[01:28] <bradv> domor: Then you don't have it working. Keep going through the howto's. What card do you have anyway?
[01:28] <domor> 8500gt
[01:29] <RoRza> Pelo, : im in the folder
[01:29] <genii> Sp3c1alK: in recovery/failsafe edit the xorg.conf file and put as the name of the video driver "vesa" instead of "nv" or "ati" or whatever it has now
[01:29] <Sp3c1alK> genii: i'm not sure how to do that, i'm  n00b to ubuntu
[01:29] <monke1> anyone installed bluetooth obex client on ppc?
[01:29] <Yoke> soundray:thank you. 1 more thing and app with 3D programs my ubuntu does not open
[01:30] <genii> Sp3c1alK: eg:    nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf                     then find where it has a line like "nv" or "ati" or so. Replace with vesa as the name
[01:30] <Pelo> RoRza,  the next step check that you have all the dependencies needed to run the applications,   you will likely get several error running it, each time you get an error it tells you that you are missing a package, do not panick open synaptic and search for that package name , install it , also install the related -dev package , and then run the command again for the next missing package,  no need to close synaptic each time,   the command is
[01:30] <Pelo>     ./configure
[01:30] <ross42> can anyone help me fix a system crash with dpkg errors that wont boot into a gui
[01:30] <devilhan> can anyone help me with a wireless card problem?
[01:30] <rdz> hi all. where do i find checksums of the ubuntu isos?
[01:31] <genii> Sp3c1alK: then exit with ctrl-x and choose yes to save the file. after do: telinit 2
[01:31]  * Pelo realy hopes anyone needing to learn how to compile a source manualy is paying attention
[01:31] <troubled> chanop around?
[01:31] <Sp3c1alK> genii: I will try that, and if that doesn't work I will try the sude dpkg command and then get back to you
[01:31] <bradv> !wifi | devilhan
[01:31] <ubotu> devilhan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:31] <Sp3c1alK> sudo*
[01:31] <AdemoS> I have installed Ubuntu 7.10 and got it working. But I wanted to upgrade my video card, from onboard, to external pci card. The good news is livecd will detect and run everything fine. The bad news is, my current harddisk install will not detect the new card, after grub loading it shows a blank screen. --- My question: Is there anyway to get Ubuntu to detect this new video card without reinstalling?
[01:31] <Pelo> !md5 > rdz  check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[01:31] <john_> a7f21e4f9df4fa4f4de73d61e9cbc28c
[01:31] <devilhan> thanks guys
[01:31] <genii> Sp3c1alK: Ok I'll be arounf maybe another hour
[01:31]  * genii tired
[01:31] <devilhan> I will look into it now. :)
[01:31]  * ari_stress tired too
[01:31] <soundray> troubled: they hang out in #ubuntu-ops
[01:32] <troubled> soundray: i know
[01:32] <genii> ping MiddleOfNowhere
[01:32] <genii> bah
[01:32] <devilhan> bradv, not exactly what you mean, can you explain just briefly :)
[01:32] <troubled> Pelo: Soskel would like your attenion regarding a ban
[01:32] <Pelo> troubled, if I didn,t ban him I 'm not gonna unban him
[01:33] <Riyonuk> What exactly is a vps?
[01:33] <troubled> Pelo: just trying to get him a contact to speak with
[01:33] <Riyonuk> I'm having problems differing it from a vm
[01:33] <rdz> Pelo, thanks.. i know how to get the md5checksum, but i don't know where to download the checksum ..
[01:33] <Dr_willis> normally the site where the .iso is at has a md5sum file there with them
[01:33] <Pelo> troubled, don't give him my nick , I block pm anyway,  tell him bans are cleared by the banner periodicaly, he can try comming back tomorrow unless he realy pissed somene off
[01:34] <troubled> Pelo: havent given him anything yet other than #-ops
[01:34] <Pelo> rdz, should be listed in the links you got
[01:34] <AdemoS> Pelo: Any idea if I can get Ubuntu's hard disk install to detect my newly installed video card? Becasue livecd does, but hard disk install does not.
[01:34] <troubled> nm
[01:34] <Pelo> AdemoS,  sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:35] <AdemoS> Pelo: Would I type that in the grub menu?
[01:35] <Dr_willis> AdemoS,  what was your old video card? whats the new video card?
[01:35] <rdz> Pelo, both seem to tell how to perform the check.. but they don't mention a download location
[01:35] <ghorman> happy thanksgiving all
[01:35] <Dr_willis> AdemoS,  you need to get to the console  to use those commands.
[01:35] <Yoke> soundray:do you know anything about Graphic card with 3d problems ?
[01:35] <rdz> an dfor some reason, the location that provices the image doesn't have alink for the checksum...
[01:36] <AdemoS> Dr_willis: My old video card was a onboard one, the new one is PCI
[01:36] <Pelo> RoRza,  how are we getting along ?
[01:36] <rdz> Pelo, i am confused... shouldn't there be alink as well for md5sum, where i can download the iso?
[01:36] <AdemoS> Dr_willis: Can I get the console from grub?
[01:36] <Pelo> AdemoS, did you disable your onboard card in the bios ?
[01:36] <Wifi-Phreak> Anybody in here have ubuntu 7.10 on a gateway laptop?
[01:36] <AdemoS> Pelo: I tried to, I wasn't sure how because I didn't say anything specific
[01:36] <RoRza> Pelo, I am inside the folder but dont know which command to run
[01:36] <AdemoS> It's a Intel Celeron with a on board VIA video card
[01:36] <Pelo> RoRza, I give you quite an instruction earlier
[01:36] <rdz> Pelo, do you see any md5sum here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloading?release=desktop-newest&arch=i386&mirror=http%3A%2F%2Fmirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca%2Fubuntu-releases%2F&debug=%5B%27country_US%27%2C+%27country_UK%27%2C+%27continent_NA%27%5D&download-button=
[01:37] <Pelo> RoRza,  the next step check that you have all the dependencies needed to run the applications,   you will likely get several error running it, each time you get an error it tells you that you are missing a package, do not panick open synaptic and search for that package name , install it , also install the related -dev package , and then run the command again for the next missing package,  no need to close synaptic each time,   the command is
[01:37] <Pelo>     ./configure
[01:37] <rdz> argh.. sorrry.. for the long link
[01:37] <recon> is there any way to get the regular desktop install CD to install in text mode?
[01:37] <Dr_willis> AdemoS,  theres that rescue/recovery entry in grub i think that goes to the console
[01:37] <Wifi-Phreak> Anybody in here use 7.10?
[01:37] <AdemoS> Dr_willis: Thanks I'll try that
[01:37] <Pelo> rdz, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto
[01:37] <recon> i really don't want to download another 700 kb for the alternate.
[01:37] <meoblast001> anyone here have screenlets?
[01:37] <RoRza> ok how do I check ?  with the command that I used before ?
[01:37] <meoblast001> if so, can you tell me how to activate it?
[01:38] <meoblast001> i obtained a deb
[01:38] <Dr_willis> recon,  ive never heard of a way to do  a alt install from a live cd.
[01:38] <meoblast001> and installed it
[01:38] <Pelo> RoRza,  it was listed at the end  the command is ./configure
[01:38] <meoblast001> but cant start the daemon
[01:38] <recon> Dr_willis: aw, well. ok, thanks.
[01:38] <bthornton> is it possible (er, I know it's possible--but is it worth it) to install a kernel from Gutsy on a Feisty box?
[01:38] <rdz> Pelo, this page says: "1 Download MD5SUMS and MD5SUMS.gpg"---
[01:38] <rdz> Pelo, but from where?
[01:38] <Pelo> bthornton, just upgrade
[01:39] <Wifi-Phreak> !7.10
[01:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[01:39] <bthornton> Pelo: much harder than it sounds at the moment.  I just need to know if the kernel can be upgraded.
[01:39] <rdz> Pelo, i am used to find the mdsum on the same site as the file itself
[01:39] <Pelo> rdz, check in the forum I guess or the search feature in the www.ubuntu.com website
[01:39] <Soskel> does ubuntu come with gnome 2.20?
[01:39] <Pelo> bthornton, don't know
[01:39] <AdemoS> Pelo: "sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will that command force the harddisk install to re-detect my card on boot? or must I use the console to set it up?
[01:39] <NemesisD> anyone know how to revert back to regular grub from super grub?
[01:39] <rdz> Pelo, i'll do...thanks
[01:39] <Pelo> rdz, I woudl hve expectdd it as well
[01:40] <Pelo> AdemoS, the terminal will do
[01:40] <Wifi-Phreak> !supergrub
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about supergrub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <MiddleOfNowhere> anyone called for me?
[01:40] <Wifi-Phreak> Whats super grub?
[01:40] <RoRza> Pelo, Do I need to put anything before or aftrer the ./configure ?
[01:40] <Pelo> AdemoS, did you disable your onboard card ?
[01:40] <AdemoS> Pelo: So I can just input that command in the terminal and it should detect on boot?
[01:40] <Dr_willis> Wifi-Phreak,  a 'boot recovery' live cd/floppy
[01:40] <NemesisD> Wifi-Phreak, its a boot disk that loads a modified version of grub with lots of menus and options, useful for fixing up screwed up mbrs and whatnot
[01:40] <AdemoS> Pelo: I couldn't figure out how
[01:40] <tarelerulz> How would you tell if an proccesor is 32 bit or 64 bit ? I am trying to find out if I can install Ubuntu 64 7.10 on my computer
[01:40] <Wifi-Phreak> Hmm
[01:41] <AdemoS> Pelo: I looked through the bios, but the most I could do was turn off fast-write to agp
[01:41] <NemesisD> except now it seems to have taken the place of grub
[01:41] <Dr_willis> tarelerulz,  whats the cpu?
[01:41] <Pelo> RoRza,  no , are you getting an error msg that is not telling you about a missing dependency ?
[01:41] <AdemoS> Pelo: For somer eason though livecd sets it up fine
[01:41] <AdemoS> *reason
[01:41] <Dr_willis> tarelerulz,  could boot a live cd and  check /proc/cpuinfo
[01:41] <rdz> Pelo, i think i found it...
[01:41] <Pelo> AdemoS, i don't know then, I'm just your basic home user,  you might want to give the forum a search  www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:41] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: :)
[01:41] <rdz> Pelo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[01:42] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: Just making sure you are alive
[01:42] <Pelo> AdemoS, try running dpkg from the recovery mode
[01:42] <RoRza> Pelo, I get this bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[01:42] <tarelerulz> Dr_Willis , I am on Vista right now .  I am trying to find this all out so I get the right iso for my proccesor .
[01:42] <rdz> Pelo, i'd suggest the ubuntu people put a link on the download site
[01:42] <MiddleOfNowhere> Yes
[01:42] <AdemoS> Pelo: Will the command you showed me do that?
[01:42] <MiddleOfNowhere> did u need something?
[01:42] <Pelo> RoRza,  and you are doing this from the extracted folder ?
[01:42] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: I'm curious of a progress/non-progress update. Did it boot and install, etc
[01:42] <Zofo> I am wondering if I am able to use a pci usb card on my ubuntu powermac
[01:43] <Pelo> AdemoS, it should   full comman again   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , it should give you a list of videocards available to use
[01:43] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: I've been hanging on to help further if unexpected errors, etc
[01:43] <rdz> ah finally, i see that the iso file is corrupt... that is why i coulnd't install it, though it booted from livecd............
[01:43] <AdemoS> Pelo: and I can just select the pci from that list?
[01:43] <rdz> Pelo, thanks for your help..
[01:43] <Pelo> Zofo, look up yoru card model here and in the forum  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:43] <Pelo> AdemoS,  you shold be able to
[01:43] <AdemoS> Pelo: Great, thanks a lot
[01:43] <Pelo> rdz,  I did very little
[01:43] <RoRza> Pelo, : yeah
[01:44] <NJA13> network
[01:44] <RoRza> xxxxd@xxxx-xxxx:~/Desktop/aptana$ ./configure
[01:44] <tarelerulz> intel (R) Pentium (R) dual-core T 2310 @ 1.46 GHz
[01:44] <Pelo> RoRza, ok , then your install will be a bit different, possibly the file comes with it's own intaller, ,  open the extracted folder in  nautilus ( the gui file browser ) look for an INSTALL file,  read it
[01:44] <Flare183> How do I become a channel operator?
[01:45] <Pelo> Flare183, by not asking
[01:45] <Flare183> ...
[01:45] <genii> Pelo: Good answer
[01:45]  * Flare183 so supid
[01:45]  * Flare183 so stupid
[01:45]  * Flare183 thinks people can be just like microsoft literal
[01:45] <Flare183> let me reprase
[01:45] <Flare183> the question
[01:46] <Pelo> Flare183, the last person to be made channel operator never asked, never hinted, he was just kind to noobs and helpfull, and then one day , he got a tap on the shoulder and ... the intiation
[01:46] <Flare183> right now my loco team is more or less dead I can i update the topic name
[01:46] <tarelerulz> I have a  intel (R) Pentium (R) dual-core T 2310 @ 1.46 GHz and I want to know if it 32 bit or 64 bit ? just wondering how I might do that
[01:46] <Wifi-Phreak> Can anybody in here tell me how 7.10 is?
[01:46] <Flare183> wifi-phreak:> pure excellance
[01:46] <Pelo> Flare183, ask pricechild do to it for you if he wants to when you see him around
[01:46] <Wifi-Phreak> Yeah?
[01:46] <theangrywolf> excuse me is there a x64 bit channel ?
[01:46] <Flare183> or pici ok
[01:46] <Flare183> yeah really
[01:46] <Wifi-Phreak> What are some of the new features?
[01:47] <Pelo> tarelerulz,  32bit
[01:47] <Pelo> Wifi-Phreak,  read the release notes on the ubuntu.com site
[01:47] <anomaly> been trying to mount root from nfs. I have edited /etc/fstab to server:/dir / nfs defaults 0 0 and /etc/rcS.d/S35mountall.sh has been edited for the nonfs. seems I am missing something though as it keeps loading the / from the thumb drive instead of nfs.. anyone have suggestions?
[01:47] <Flare183> restriction manager compiz-fusion, wine intergration
[01:47] <Flare183> a load of other stuff
[01:47] <tarelerulz> So how did you find that out Pelo ? I really ant to know I look forever and I had a hard time finding anything other then what computer that proccesor came with
[01:48] <Flare183> pelo:> couldn't i like join #ubuntu-ops and ask there?
[01:48]  * genii tries to remain awake
[01:48] <theangrywolf> woot so how much better is x64 bit ubuntu than x86 32-bit??
[01:48] <RequinB4> well I have thanksgiving off so I have time to try and tackle the fact I have no sound... Can anyone help who is willing to think outside what is immediatly googlabe?  I have struggled with this for 2 months
[01:48] <Dr_willis> theangrywolf,  you proberly wont notice much of a diff.
[01:49] <theangrywolf> why not?
[01:49] <Pelo> tarelerulz,  conventionnal wisedom here is that unless you have an specific use for 64 bit version ( like special apps)  use the 32 bit one,  64 bit is still missing some driver support for stuff like nvidia and ati and some wifi , and no flash
[01:49] <Flare183> Pelo:>?
[01:49] <Dr_willis> theangrywolf,  you proberly aint doing anything that will  be pushingthe system where you will gain
[01:49] <Pelo> Flare183,  feel free to go there and ask
[01:49] <meoblast001> how do i make the window hider not shrink screenlets?
[01:49] <theangrywolf> oh dont be so sure...
[01:49] <Flare183> Pelo:>Kinda dangerous don't you think?
[01:49] <theangrywolf> but no really does it help with large and complex applications?
[01:50] <Dr_willis> theangrywolf,  it 'might' help in some cases
[01:50] <Pelo> Flare183, if you have a legitimate need to be there nothing will happen to you , well nothing very bad or that can't be mended anyway
[01:50] <theangrywolf> is it going to make things more complicated in setup?
[01:50] <RequinB4>  Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:50] <Dr_willis> theangrywolf,  it can have issues with drivers and other apps.
[01:50] <theangrywolf> what about video drivers?
[01:51] <Dr_willis> depends on the video card. No idea on the specifics.. I dont use 64 bit. i avoide it. :)
[01:51] <AdemoS> Pelo: "sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg" got me "command not found" did I spell something wrong?
[01:51] <theangrywolf> um xfx 8800
[01:51] <theangrywolf> nvid
[01:51] <Dr_willis> i got sick of fighting it, and gained nothing.   So i dumped it for now.
[01:51] <AdemoS> Pelo: Specifically "sudo: dpgk-reconfigure command not found"
[01:51] <Dr_willis> perhaps in a few more months/year i may try 64 bit again.
[01:51] <theangrywolf> so what im saying is should i just try it out, or should i save the 25cents worth of blank dvd?
[01:51] <midnight> how do i take root access?? what is the command??
[01:52] <Pelo> meoblast001, I think you should check in the screenlets website for answers on that,  screenlets is not part of the ubuntu packages and is not realy covered here,  maybe the ppl in #compiz-fusion might know because screenlets actualy works better with a compositing windows manager
[01:52] <theangrywolf> sudo
[01:52] <Dr_willis> theangrywolf,  its your time. :) I doubt if you will see any improvements.
[01:52] <midnight> theangrywolf, sudo?? and??
[01:52] <Pelo> AdemoS, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:52] <Xenguy> !root > midnight
[01:52] <meoblast001> Pelo: screenlets site is down
[01:52] <Dr_willis> !sudo
[01:52] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:52] <RequinB4> midnight - most people suggest putting "sudo" in front of one command
[01:52] <AdemoS> oooh I spell it wrong, thanks
[01:52] <RequinB4> midnight - but type "su" to be in root for the next indefinite commands
[01:52] <Pelo> meoblast001, not much more I can do for you on htis
[01:52] <AdemoS> *spelled
[01:52] <Meroigo> Dual screens with ATI Radeon 8500LE on Ubuntu 7.10. How?
[01:52] <Dr_willis> sudo -s , for a root 'shell'
[01:52] <midnight> !root
[01:52] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:53] <Pelo> AdemoS,  jsut copy from my line to the terminal
[01:53] <VSpike> Is there any good way to install real player as a package?
[01:53] <genii> no
[01:53] <Flare183> Pelo:> in process of asking
[01:53] <RequinB4> anyone willing to help me with a difficult sound problem
[01:53] <Pelo> VSpike, get the installer bin from the realplaye website
[01:54]  * Pelo wonders what the ops will do to Flare183  and how much time it will take him to recover
[01:54] <theangrywolf> like sudo ~sh/ or something
[01:54] <theangrywolf> cant remember
[01:54] <theangrywolf> or whatever the hell your command is
[01:54] <Pelo> RequinB4,  ask a specific question, you are more likely to get answer then asking for help
[01:54] <theangrywolf> its true
[01:54]  * Flare183 says god help me! I need some luck!
[01:54] <ricanelite> when I head over to this site allgames.com I do not get any audio at all
[01:54] <theangrywolf> like my gecko installer is broken for whine and i think theres actually no real reason for it
[01:55] <theangrywolf> it just.... is
[01:55]  * Pelo only speaks the truth, no mather how painfull
[01:55] <ross42> i now have gui but with no applications...and still dpkg dependency problems with dia-common dia-gnome gnome-office and gnome...what do I do?
[01:55] <xoss> good day to all of you... can someone recommend a good typing tutor application for ubuntu?
[01:55] <Riyonuk> What exactly is a vps? Is it just virtulization software?
[01:55] <RequinB4> Pelo: agreed to some extent, but i won't argue it
[01:55] <ricanelite> when trying to stream but if i watch a video from youtube i get audio
[01:55] <theangrywolf> so what exactly IS a "debian" based linux os?
[01:55] <RequinB4> I have no sound on my  Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:55] <RequinB4> better? :P
[01:55] <Pelo> !sound | RequinB4  start here
[01:55] <ubotu> RequinB4  start here: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:55] <RequinB4> Pelo - been there
[01:56] <theangrywolf> RequinB4. I had that same problem, you have to reinstall ubuntu
[01:56] <RequinB4> Pelo - i've had this problem for 2 months
[01:56] <Pelo> RequinB4,  any sound in windows ?
[01:56] <theangrywolf> no joke
[01:56] <RequinB4> yes
[01:56] <RequinB4> pelo
[01:56] <ghorman_> has anyone got a usb headset working in ubuntu?  the usb headset has a builtin sound card
[01:56] <RequinB4> theangrywolf - yeah was trying to avoid that
[01:56] <Pelo> RequinB4,  did y ou look up your card model in the forum or in the ahrdware list ?
[01:56] <VSpike> Pelo: I figured.  Seems to be broken for me and has been for a couple of days.  Does it work for you?
[01:56] <theangrywolf> your system is corrupt and your missing alsa drivers
[01:56] <RequinB4> i googled it and lots of people have had trouble with no sucess
[01:56] <theangrywolf> and sadly you cant just "get" them
[01:56] <ricanelite> well i could use a usb headset on my gateway notebook pc and works perfect
[01:56] <Pelo> ghorman_, check your model in the forum or look for usb headset in general
[01:56] <RequinB4> *sigh*
[01:56] <theangrywolf> yeah it took me about a week to admit defeat to that
[01:56] <RequinB4> so i should burn a new live cd
[01:57] <theangrywolf> dont you have an old one?
[01:57] <RequinB4> its feisty
[01:57] <ricanelite> just have to make sure on volume control that USB is selected and it is not muted
[01:57] <Pelo> VSpike,  I think you are talking to the wrong person
[01:57] <ghorman_> name
[01:57]  * Pelo is lost again, he's can't concentrate tonight
[01:57] <theangrywolf> woot 64 bit edition is done
[01:58] <RequinB4> I haven't needed sound on this box its basically a command line but i figured it'd be nice to fix - tomorrow i'll reinstall ubuntu, thx i guess theangrywolf
[01:58] <Pelo> RequinB4,  which version of ubu are you using right now ?
[01:58] <RequinB4> gutsy
[01:58] <theangrywolf> hey isnt vista 64 bit edition supposded to be good but not good enough because no one acutally bothers to use it because they assumes it sucks because its vista?
[01:58] <Pelo> RequinB4, and did the sound work in previous versions ?
[01:58] <RequinB4> no
[01:59] <theangrywolf> or something....
[01:59] <VSpike> Pelo: in what way, sorry?
[01:59] <Dr_willis> 64bit under windows has a lot of little issues also.
[01:59] <Dr_willis> theangrywolf,  and MS charges extra for it.
[01:59] <RequinB4> i've been through about 7 different tutorials
[01:59] <theangrywolf> its true
[01:59] <theangrywolf> like 200$ extra...
[01:59] <RequinB4> 200 reasons to prefer ubuntu...
[01:59] <Pelo> VSpike,  what is your issue ? I don't seem to recall having started to help you out with anything
[01:59] <theangrywolf> and im not sure if its 200$ worth of extra speed/performance
[01:59] <theangrywolf> no games?
[02:00] <RequinB4> virtualbox for games
[02:00] <RequinB4> xp
[02:00] <theangrywolf> virtualbox?
[02:00] <RequinB4> no need for vista
[02:00] <Oni-Dracula> i'm having some trouble with a hard drive... I used GParted to format a 150 gig SATA drive with ext3, now I'm trying to get it to automount but every time i click on the drive in nautilus (149.0 GB Volume) it asks for a password and mounts it read-only
[02:00] <theangrywolf> had xp... it broke so someone put vista on it
[02:01] <VSpike> Pelo: I asked about real player, you said download the bin from real.com
[02:01] <theangrywolf> so know i use it for games and linux for... everything else
[02:01] <Pelo> Oni-Dracula, you probably have the wrong settings in fstab,  copy the relevanht line here
[02:01] <theangrywolf> try using whine vspike
[02:01] <genii> eg: "users"
[02:01] <VSpike> Pelo: I said I figured that was probably the only way (was wondering if medibuntu or someone had packgaged it but figured not)...
[02:01] <RequinB4> theangrywolf - yeah you can run windows off of linux if you have the install
[02:01] <Pelo> VSpike,  I thinik it is a bin  might be another format,  but it was easy enoug to instal from me, hold on I'll check the name of the file
[02:01] <theangrywolf> yup
[02:01] <Polygon89> Hello, im trying to rip a dvd using handbrake, but the resulting file gets to be about 2 gb but then it stops because the system says the file size is too large and then it coredumps. Ive been told this is a system problem not a handbrake problem, so how do i fix this?
[02:02] <VSpike> Pelo: but the download on www.real.com/linux seems not to work for me in firefox or konqueror and has not for a couple of days..
[02:02] <Pelo> VSpike, realplayer is propriatary you have to get it from their site, you wonT' have a deb for it
[02:02] <VSpike> Pelo: just wondering if you felt kind enough to check it for me
[02:02] <genii> Polygon89: What filesystem is the hd you are putting the file to?
[02:02] <VSpike> Pelo: true, but so are skype and google earth and medibuntu have those as packages :)
[02:02] <MiddleOfNowhere> sorry been afk
[02:02] <Polygon89> genii, ext3
[02:02] <Pelo> VSpike,  it's only wokrs as a standalone you have to copy the link to it in order to stream the vid
[02:02] <theangrywolf> RequinB4 i have vista ultimate on a part now, but i want 64 edition because of stability, but im not sure were to get it
[02:02] <MiddleOfNowhere> have i missed anything i need to know?
[02:02] <mgol> hello, I've got a problem: I run Longman's CuttingEdge under Linux and got the following error: "Unknown keysym name:  osfActivate" and many others, similar to that mentioned. As I checked, osfActivate is an alias, one of many defined in /usr/share/X11/XKeysymDB. So it seems that this program looks for the file in a different location. At one site I found a solution to make Smalltalk work - one had to make a symbolic link to this file in /opt/X11R5/lib, but
[02:02] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: I almost sept :)
[02:03] <genii> *slept
[02:03] <theangrywolf> im pretty sure most NEWER games run on 64 bit arcitecture
[02:03] <Sp3c1alK> hey genii
[02:03] <Oni-Dracula> Pelo, here's my entire fstab... since I can't seem to be able to read it atm:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45526/
[02:03] <RequinB4> theangrywolf - the all-powerful intraweb
[02:03] <VSpike> Pelo: fair enough.  I have helix player installed, but every time I try to play something with it it tells me that I have to get Real Player instead ;/
[02:03] <xoss> how do i reset the admin passwd? do i have to reinstall ubuntu?
[02:03] <leo_rockw> hello everyone
[02:03] <theangrywolf> working on that...
[02:03] <MiddleOfNowhere> almost slept?
[02:03] <MiddleOfNowhere> what ya mean?
[02:03] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: There is one more crucial step in the very lasty of the tutorial which can only be done when you are using the stick, but you have the url so you can examine it
[02:03] <Polygon89> Hello, im trying to rip a dvd using handbrake, but the resulting file gets to be about 2 gb but then it stops because the system says the file size is too large and then it coredumps. Ive been told this is a system problem not a handbrake problem, so how do i fix this?
[02:03] <Pelo> Oni-Dracula, give me aminute to check it , which partition is it ?
[02:04] <MiddleOfNowhere> yeh
[02:04] <theangrywolf> ok... 64 bit times for the mes
[02:04] <Oni-Dracula> Pelo, it's supposed to be /dev/sdb(#)
[02:04] <leo_rockw> i never, ever sent a fax before. i need to send one tomorrow, anybody willing to give me a hint or point me in the right direction to do that using (k)ubuntu?
[02:04] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: I got 3 hours sleep last night then agreed to be here to help you today, etc. Just about to logoff and get some Zzzzzs
[02:04] <MiddleOfNowhere> genii: how do i switch to command line during installation?
[02:05] <peacepipej1> hi, having trouble installing vbox, it tells me pipeline is broken and processing erors
[02:05] <Sp3c1alK> genii: I tried the nano etc/x11/xorg.conf and it was an empty file, so I did the sudo dpkg=reconfigure  and configured everything, i set vesa as my video card driver, but when I boot normally my monitor looses signal, but if I choose the nva (nVidia i guess) it loads but still just a black screen
[02:05] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: ctrl-alt then functikn key, usually F1
[02:05] <MiddleOfNowhere> ok
[02:05] <PunkeRm> hi
[02:05] <MiddleOfNowhere> and thats all i need to do?
[02:05] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: Then alt-f7 for X again
[02:05] <Pelo> Oni-Dracula,  we have a problem,right now , the only 2 partitons listd in your fstab are you / and the swap , no other ones
[02:05] <MiddleOfNowhere> alt f7 for what?
[02:05] <MiddleOfNowhere> X?
[02:06] <Pelo> Oni-Dracula,  what is the devtree of the extra partiton you want to mount ? I'll make you a line for it to add to fstab
[02:06] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: alt-f7 to return to the graphical installer when running Xwindows etc etc
[02:06] <MiddleOfNowhere> kk
[02:06] <RequinB4> does the 'passwd' command change your user or root pw
[02:06] <Sp3c1alK> genii: I tried the nano etc/x11/xorg.conf and it was an empty file, so I did the sudo dpkg=reconfigure  and configured everything, i set vesa as my video card driver, but when I boot normally my monitor looses signal, but if I choose the nva (nVidia i guess) it loads but still just a black screen
[02:06] <theangrywolf> woot disc images yay!
[02:06] <Polygon89> Hello, im trying to rip a dvd using handbrake, but the resulting file gets to be about 2 gb but then it stops because the system says the file size is too large and then it coredumps. Ive been told this is a system problem not a handbrake problem, so how do i fix this?
[02:06] <Oni-Dracula> Pelo, it should just be one /dev/sdb1 mounted at /media/sdb1 (unless I misunderstand you)
[02:07] <leo_rockw> genii: i always thought it was CTRL+alt+f7... this is an ephyphany, haha
[02:07] <casio1374633> ...
[02:08] <theangrywolf> wtf mates
[02:08] <genii> Sp3c1alK: Unfortunately I'm too wiped to assist much today. The key to it seems to be obviously in your x server setup someplace however
[02:08] <RoAkSoAx> leo_rockw, when you change from Desktop to Command line you do hve to use CTRL+alt+f7
[02:08] <Pelo> Oni-Dracula, add this line to fstab before the cdrom line , and make sure that /media/sdb1 already exist     /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 defaults 0 2
[02:08] <leo_rockw> RoAkSoAx: no, i do ctrl+alt+fx
[02:08] <Sp3c1alK> genii: any good forums or other irc channels to check upon?
[02:08] <leo_rockw> RoAkSoAx: so i figured i had to do the same for X
[02:08] <casio1374633> i install mutt yesterday, and now i can't access X
[02:08] <MiddleOfNowhere> genni: unable to find kernal image: Linux
[02:08] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: If you are on alternate install cd image, use instead alt-f2 then alt-f1 to go back to progress screen
[02:08] <leo_rockw> RoAkSoAx: i just realized ctrl is not necessary
[02:09] <casio1374633> how can i fix this problem
[02:09] <MiddleOfNowhere> genni: unable to find kernal image: Linux
[02:09] <Oni-Dracula> Pelo, ok...now "sudo mount -a" ?
[02:09] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: Yes, I saw
[02:09] <RoAkSoAx> leo_rockw, my bad, from desktop to command ctrl+alt+FX , but between commands lines you can use alt+FX
[02:09] <Pelo> Oni-Dracula,  I don't know the command line way to reload fstab , sorry,  you might have to reboot
[02:09] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: It seems to be in the syslinux.cfg file that we need to make edits. But I really ned sleep :(
[02:10] <mrspinx> Hi
[02:10] <RoAkSoAx> leo_rockw, ctrl is just necessary fwhen changing from desktop to command line
[02:10] <MiddleOfNowhere> o man :(
[02:10] <MiddleOfNowhere> ok u can sleep
[02:10]  * MiddleOfNowhere really wants to install linux so badly
[02:10] <benk20> hola
[02:10] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: Same bat-time same bat-channel tomorrow then?
[02:10] <jals> are any of the Time Machine clones good, such as the ones i've found from googling - .ext3cow, Dirvish, Time Vault, Flyback...?
[02:10] <Sp3c1alK> genii: what are some good forums I could use to fix the probme?
[02:10] <leo_rockw> RoAkSoAx: i thought it was always necessary... i never studied this things, i just figured them out some 8 years ago with slackware 7.1
[02:10] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: Or you can just mess with the file yourself
[02:10] <mrspinx> I was wondering what is the equivalent to time machine from apple for ubuntu
[02:10] <Pelo> MiddleOfNowhere,  can you summarize your install problem ?
[02:11] <MiddleOfNowhere> i booted from usb stick and it says:
[02:11] <leo_rockw> Sp3c1alK: idk your problem, but the ubuntuforums are really good
[02:11] <genii> Sp3c1alK: ubuntuforums is usually very useful
[02:11] <MiddleOfNowhere> unable to find kernal image: Linux
[02:11] <RoAkSoAx> leo_rockw, hahaha lol i used to believe it was necessary too but it is not
[02:11] <Sp3c1alK> genii: thanks
[02:11] <Oni-Dracula> Pelo, it's still mounting as read-only
[02:11] <Pelo> MiddleOfNowhere, and i assume you installed ubuntu on the usb stick,  well I can'T realy help with taht , sorry,  I suggest you do a forum seqarch for the error msg
[02:11] <Sp3c1alK> leo_rockw: do you know anything about the xserver ?
[02:12] <genii> pelo: he followed the howto to install from usb stick. but syslinux.cfg that was edited from isolinux.cfg seems to have been edited improperly (my doing)
[02:12] <MiddleOfNowhere> no no no pelo
[02:12] <leo_rockw> Sp3c1alK: i know some things, but i'm not a guru
[02:12] <Xenguy> MiddleOfNowhere: what is the installation media?
[02:12] <Pelo> MiddleOfNowhere, genii ,I'm gonna but out of this one
[02:12] <Pelo> Oni-Dracula,  restart the computer
[02:13] <MiddleOfNowhere> Xenguy: Im installing from usb stick
[02:13] <Sp3c1alK> leo: do you have any idea why nothing is displaying? I've reconfigured it and changed the video to nva and vesa, on vesa i don't get any signal, on nva the screen is black
[02:13] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: 1 minute I'll try 1 more thing.AFK
[02:13] <MiddleOfNowhere> kk
[02:14] <leo_rockw> Sp3c1alK: was it like that on the live cd too?
[02:14] <Xenguy> MiddleOfNowhere: I have no experience with that, but if the kernel is not present on the USB stick, then you would need to have configured a working network connection to get it, yes?
[02:14] <Sp3c1alK> leo: the live cd worked fine, I didnt mess around on the desktop to much, just installed ubuntu but the display worked fine then
[02:14] <patrickkkk> hey i lspci says ihave " VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890 [Chrome9] Integrated Video (rev 01)" as a video card, is there a way to get compiz-fusion working?
[02:15] <Pelo> patrickkkk, ddi yo try to enable the effects in menu > sustem > prefs > appearance ?
[02:16] <patrickkkk> Pelo : yes but it says desktop effects cannot be enabled or something to that effect
[02:17] <Pelo> patrickkkk, try asking in #compiz-fusion if your card is strong enough, itmight not be,  the isntaller usualy adds compiz if the hardware can handle it
[02:17] <leo_rockw> Sp3c1alK: and you don't know what could have triggered this behaviour?
[02:17] <patrickkkk> okay thanks Pelo
[02:17] <Sp3c1alK> nope, I just installed ubuntu on my hd partition, and when i select the os i want to boot too the screen goes black
[02:17] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: bah I'm too tired. You can edit the syslinux.cfg file however. put in front of all vmlinux  a    / , save,  try boot again
[02:18] <Pelo> Sp3c1alK, whatvideo card do you have ?
[02:18] <RequinB4> sp3clalk what vid card do u have
[02:18] <Sp3c1alK> 8800gtx
[02:18] <MiddleOfNowhere> do what?
[02:18] <Pelo> Sp3c1alK, boot the recovery mode and  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , if your video card driver is listed but doesn't work use the vesa for now, and get the binairy driver later
[02:18] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: open the file on the stick called syslinux.cfg   and then wherever it has vmlinuz    put /vmlinuz   instead
[02:19] <leo_rockw> Sp3c1alK: i don't have nvidia, so i won't be of much help here
[02:19] <genii> try boot again ,etc
[02:19] <RequinB4> Sp3c1alk - do.... ok what Pelo said
[02:19] <RequinB4> should be nvidia driver
[02:19] <genii> save first, then try boot again, etc
[02:19] <MiddleOfNowhere> kk
[02:19] <Sp3c1alK> Pelo: I've done that, buy when I choose the vesa, my monitor doesn't get any signal at all, instead of staying just black
[02:19] <Sp3c1alK> buy = but*
[02:20] <RequinB4> can u still change your cursor
[02:20] <RequinB4> when you highlight things
[02:20] <RequinB4> or do you have no GUI at all
[02:20] <Pelo> Sp3c1alK, i suggest you reinstall with the alternate isntall cd,  thats should at least get you a gui , aftertaht you can get the binary
[02:20] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: I'll hang on a little while longer to see if that takes. If not, it must be tomorow to continue
[02:21] <Sp3c1alK> no GUI at all unless I choose recovery mode
[02:21] <Pelo> so Oni-Dracula  what is the verdict ?
[02:21]  * genii is seeing double from exhaustion
[02:21] <blahblahx> uhhhh
[02:21] <RequinB4> ok then sp3c1alk hold on a sec b4 u try to reinstall
[02:21] <Sp3c1alK> How will I uninstall ubuntu if I can't see anything? Is there something on the live cd I could
[02:21] <RequinB4> i had a similar problem but it might not be the case b/c your vid card is good enough
[02:21] <Pelo> genii,  go to bed, you are useless to us if you see more problems then there realy are
[02:22]  * Sp3c1alK test
[02:22] <VSpike> Can someone do me a favour and tell me if the "Download RealPlayer" button at http://www.real.com/linux/ is working for them?
[02:22] <Xenguy> genii: get to bed
[02:22] <genii> Pelo: Well, after he reports if go/no-go then I absolutely must
[02:22] <VSpike> Just if the download starts at all - no need to actually wait it out
[02:22] <Sp3c1alK> Does my monitor need to be vga? lol
[02:22] <Pelo> VSpike,  hold on
[02:23]  * Pelo will have to go to bed soon as well
[02:23] <Pelo> VSpike,  starts for me
[02:23] <CrazyPoultry> just a quick(hopefully simple) question, just installed the Ubuntu desktop(apt-get install) from a kubuntu install, i really just want to check out the visual effectsbut when i try to enable them from Preferances > Appearance ,i get an error stating they could not be enabled, Any help would be appreciated
[02:23] <VSpike> Pelo: what browser?
[02:23] <Pelo> VSpike,  ff
[02:23]  * genii fluffs Pelo's pillow
[02:24]  * Pelo is just waiting for Oni-Dracula  to tell him it worked
[02:24] <rapid> how can i tcpdump without ssh traffic
[02:24] <genii> Pelo: I empathise. I really do
[02:24] <MiddleOfNowhere> kk im changing it
[02:24] <^Minotaur^> anyone here familiar with T61p and gutsy install?
[02:25] <Pelo> genii, it is a pitfall of this adiction we have ,  we need to know it turned out fine
[02:25] <genii> Pelo: Yes
[02:25] <DaemonXI> Hi, I'm having trouble getting ATi drivers to work with Gutsy.
[02:25] <VSpike> Pelo: very strange - it doens't work for me with ff, swiftfox or konqueror
[02:25] <patrickkkk> hey i installed ubuntu 2 times, both 7.04 upgrade to 7.10 and both times after i upgrade the logout screen dissapears when i upgrade and i cannot see the screen, yet it comes up and if i click where the shutdown button should be, the computer shuts down, but i cant see it so i usually end up clicking the wrong button, any ideas?
[02:26]  * Pelo stands up : hi my nick is Pelo and I am addicted to support channels
[02:26] <genii> LOL pelo
[02:26]  * VSpike cheers for Pelo
[02:26] <Pelo> VSpike,  maybe your local mirror is too busy atm, try again tomorrow
[02:26]  * genii joins the 12 step program
[02:26]  * VSpike hands Pelo a white keyring
[02:26] <delfos> hi, i would love to turn off my computers pc speaker bleep sound, using gutsy, do you know how?
[02:26] <leo_rockw> delfos: h/o i have your solution
[02:26] <VSpike> pelo: that's what I'm thinking - dont suppose you can share the actual download url can you?
[02:26] <genii> !beep
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beep - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <genii> hmm
[02:27] <VSpike> pelo: maybe I can wget it
[02:27] <Pelo> VSpike,  it's 5 meg , you want me to dcc it to you ?
[02:27] <DaemonXI> I've installed them, and the driver shows up as "ATI accelerated graphics driver" in the Restricted Drivers menu. But when I check or uncheck it, it tells me "Reconfiguring X.org video drivers is not possible: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is invalid or does not exist."
[02:27] <delfos> leo_rockw: and what is it?
[02:27] <DaemonXI> Which is baffling, as I thought you kind of needed the X config file to run graphically.
[02:27] <leo_rockw> delfos: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:27] <VSpike> Pelo: if you're feeling very generous, that would be lovely
[02:27] <delfos> leo_rockw: then.... ;)
[02:27] <leo_rockw> delfos: add this: blacklist pcspkr
[02:27] <Pelo> VSpike,  you'll need to accept
[02:27] <leo_rockw> delfos: there, no more pcspeaker
[02:28] <VSpike> Pelo: ta muchly
[02:28] <leo_rockw> delfos: i hate that beep too, haha
[02:28] <leo_rockw> delfos: ctrl+o saves
[02:28] <DaemonXI> Does anybody have any ideas about the ATI drivers? They seem like they're installed but I can't enable them.
[02:28] <leo_rockw> delfos: ctrl + x exits
[02:28] <delfos> leo_rockw: cool i hope it goes soon!!
[02:28] <VSpike> delfos: that can usually be disabled by unplugging the speaker from the motherboard :)
[02:28] <leo_rockw> delfos: you may need to restart, but idk
[02:28]  * Pelo is ashamed he's only sending at a mear 48 kB/s
[02:29] <VSpike> Pelo: I think it's me that's only receiving at 48kB/s
[02:29] <leo_rockw> VSpike: yeah, that's true, but i'm on a laptop and didn't feel like opening it for the pc speaker
[02:29] <VSpike> Pelo: 512kbps ADSL here
[02:29] <MiddleOfNowhere> genni: rebooting
[02:29] <delfos> i have done it! but does it auto switches it of?
[02:29] <Pelo> VSpike,  could you kill everything else just for now
[02:29] <malikor> is it possible to use the Install option on the Ubuntu desktop to install the OS to an external hard drive?
[02:29] <leo_rockw> delfos: you probably need to restart so the new blacklist takes effect
[02:30] <Pelo> VSpike,  nvm I was reading the thing wrong, I though we had an hour to go
[02:30] <RequinB4> Sp3c1alk - do you have xgl running
[02:30] <VSpike> Pelo: heh.  that *was* with everything else killed :)
[02:30] <VSpike> Pelo: thanks!
[02:30] <delfos> allright, i think someone is already awake because of that stupid bleeeep
[02:30] <MiddleOfNowhere> didn't work
[02:30] <Pelo> VSpike, enjoy
[02:31] <Pelo> ok , enough for me,  g'night folks, see you tomorrow ,unless I get a life
[02:31] <MiddleOfNowhere> genni: go get some rest
[02:31] <MiddleOfNowhere> i might see u tomorrow
[02:31] <orion2> I just install ubuntu server edition on a computer i have if i want to run vncserver on it i have to install gnome does anyone know how to install gnome. I dont think i want to use apt-get install ubuntu-desktop I know that will install gnome though
[02:31] <genii> MiddleOfNowhere: OK, tomorrow then, same time
[02:31] <malikor> Pelo: thats unlikely
[02:31] <MiddleOfNowhere> kk
[02:31] <genii> bye all
[02:31] <ross42> you guys were absolutely no help at all, thanks
[02:31] <leo_rockw> ross42: you're welcome
[02:31] <leo_rockw> bleh... he left
[02:32] <Xenguy> .oO(bah)
[02:32] <malikor> is it possible to install ubuntu on an external hard drive
[02:32] <rippedmonkey> hi um is anyone here?
[02:32] <delfos> gonna restart, cant stand the bleep anymore... see you and thankx
[02:32] <^Minotaur^> nope
[02:33] <RequinB4> rippedmonkey - no
[02:33] <leo_rockw> rippedmonkey: we're hidding
[02:33] <^Minotaur^> hiding even
[02:33] <Xenguy> rippedmonkey: just us chickens =)
[02:33] <rippedmonkey> WELL KEEP HIDDING
[02:33] <malikor> :o
[02:33] <leo_rockw> rippedmonkey: don't yell, we can read you fine
[02:33] <RequinB4> rippedmonkey do you have a question xD
[02:33] <rippedmonkey> sorry
[02:33] <DaemonXI> Do you *need* /etc/X11/xorg.conf to run graphical?
[02:33] <leo_rockw> DaemonXI: yes
[02:34] <RequinB4> DaemonXI yes
[02:34] <malikor> rippedmonkey: the yelling hurts my virtual ears
[02:34] <leo_rockw> malikor: lol
[02:34] <DaemonXI> The problem is that the restricted drivers window says I don't have it, or it's invalid
[02:34] <rippedmonkey> well... i i have a dual core cpu and how do like make it work more efficient?
[02:34] <DaemonXI> "Reconfiguring X.org video drivers is not possible: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is invalid or does not exist."
[02:34] <orion2> Hey i am trying to install a package and my computer is asking for the install cd is there a way to install the package from the internet?
[02:34] <earlmred> what's a good gui based cd/dvd burner software?
[02:34] <rippedmonkey> because now its using the generic kernel
[02:34] <Xenguy> earlmred: k3b
[02:34] <earlmred> xcdroast seems to not be wanting to create it's config file
[02:35] <leo_rockw> orion2: not only possible... that's usually what we all do
[02:35] <RequinB4> DaemonXI - what happens when u type 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[02:35] <rippedmonkey> anyone?
[02:35] <orion2> leo_rockw: im trying apt-get install build-essential how would i do that then?
[02:35] <rippedmonkey> are you talking to me?
[02:36] <leo_rockw> orion2: if i tell you to modify your sources.list would you understand that? if you need a step by step guide just lemme know
[02:36] <orion2> leo_rockw: i understand nano /etc/apt/sourse.list add something thter
[02:37] <rippedmonkey> so can anyone help me?
[02:37] <TheMole> hi all, anyone have any experience with PCI IDE cards?
[02:37] <orion2> !ask | rippedmonkey
[02:37] <ubotu> rippedmonkey: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:37] <bigcx2> TheMole: what's your specific question
[02:37] <leo_rockw> orion2: yes... there probably is an entry that is calling your cd drive
[02:37] <leo_rockw> orion2: you will need to use sudo in order to modify the file
[02:37] <robdig> rippedmonkey: does dmesg show that it recognized the multiprocessor while booting up?
[02:38] <orion2> leo_rockw: is it this one? deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Server 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)]/ gutsy main restricted
[02:38] <DaemonXI> Requin84: When I type that, I get a blank document.
[02:38] <DaemonXI> It's bizarre, really
[02:38] <orion2> leo_rockw: should i comment that out?
[02:38] <TheMole> bigcx2: i've installed gutsy, all went fine, rebooted and getting error 17, grub is on mbr of first disk (motherboard) ubuntu is located on first disk of PCI card.
[02:38] <leo_rockw> orion2: looks like it... just comment that one with a # at the beginning of the line
[02:38] <rippedmonkey> no
[02:38] <orion2> k
[02:38] <rippedmonkey> it doesnt
[02:38] <rippedmonkey> i think
[02:38] <RequinB4> DaemonXI, so you're using GUI but get a black xorg.conf?
[02:38] <leo_rockw> orion2: and that should do the trick, if not just lemme know
[02:38] <rippedmonkey> can i pm robdig?
[02:39] <orion2> leo_rockw: good call it worked
[02:39] <RequinB4> blank*
[02:39] <bigcx2> TheMole: i've seen that before....have you swapped hard disks?
[02:39] <leo_rockw> orion2: awesome
[02:39] <TheMole> Nope, literally rebooted from the livecd.
[02:39] <hanasakiRemote> what is a good web based email client I can run to get to my imap mail?
[02:39] <TheMole> hanasakiRemote: squirrel mail?
[02:39] <RequinB4> DaemonXI - that shouldn't happen, if you have graphical interface you have xorg.conf - try using the same gedit window that appeared to manually open the file
[02:39] <hanasakiRemote> TheMole:  thanks
[02:40] <hanasakiRemote> TheMole:  whyh do you like it over other systems
[02:40] <TheMole> bigcx2: or do you know how I can boot from a device on the PCI card as that would fix the problem. But it doesn't appear as a device in my bios.
[02:40] <robdig> rippedmonkey: preference is to keep answers in channel. if system is not recognizing your mp, then unfortunately I can't help, maybe someone else can
[02:40] <TheMole> hanasakiRemote: free, small, works :p
[02:41] <bigcx2> TheMole: what device is it and how old is your pc
[02:41] <rippedmonkey> hold on thank you for your help i got it :) sorry
[02:41] <DaemonXI> Okay, thanks Requin84. I'll try that.
[02:41] <rippedmonkey> thanks for your help
[02:41] <guhhh> is there any way that i can recover my system? its all messed up!
[02:41] <hanasakiRemote> lol mole
[02:41] <TheMole> bigcx2: pc is about a year old, pci card is an it8212 cheapo card.
[02:43] <TheMole> bigcx2: in all the google results i've tried it says select "SCSI" as the boot device in the bios, but that doesn't appear, the only devices I get are "CDROM", "Removable" or "HDD"
[02:43] <bigcx2> there should be some other hard drive selection between scsi and ide
[02:44] <Codenut> HI gang
[02:44] <TheMole> not that i can find.
[02:44] <TheMole> bigcx2: i can't see anything, pretty standard phoenix bios :/
[02:45] <TheMole> there's an option that says "bootable addin cards" but that doesn't seem to do anything :/
[02:46] <guhhh> if my system is lost, what should i copy to make a backup? /usr /var /etc /home ....?
[02:47] <leo_rockw> guhhh: how "lost" is it? usually people do not reinstall in the linux world
[02:47] <mh092186> hey all
[02:48] <bigcx2> TheMole: don't know :( sorry
[02:48] <bigcx2> maybe it's pissed off because it's a raid controller but ...
[02:48] <bigcx2> i dunno
[02:48] <orion2> leo_rockw: i just install ubuntu server edition, do you know if there is anyway to install gnome on that so that i can use vncserver?
[02:48] <guhhh> leo_rockw: yeah? in theory.
[02:48] <ToHellWithGA> dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `uml-net' in statoverride file
[02:48] <ToHellWithGA> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[02:48] <Dr_willis> orion2,  you can install 'vncserver' and some other desktops for a remote desktop
[02:49] <leo_rockw> guhhh: no, not in theory... this is not windows world
[02:49] <TheMole> bigcx2: no probs.
[02:49] <ToHellWithGA> i need help finding the statoverride file and removing a group from it.
[02:49] <leo_rockw> guhhh: 99.9% of the time things have a solution
[02:49] <Dr_willis> orion2,  if you are going to install gnome and other desktops.. why bother with the server install at all. :)
[02:50] <guhhh> leo_rockw: so tell me the solution... my system doesnt boot anymore... i did fsck, the system is all messed up... it boots and restarts automatically
[02:50] <leo_rockw> orion2: yeah, you can install gnome, kde, fluxbox or xfce... sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop for gnome
[02:51] <orion2> dr_willis: well i dont want other desktops i just want gnome not all the other crap that comes along with the install im using this computer as a server and i thought it might be nice to have the ablity to get a active desktop if i eveer needed one
[02:51] <leo_rockw> guhhh: why do you need what to backup if you can't access the partition then?
[02:52] <Dr_willis> orion2,  you can do that without gnome.  if you just need a minimal desktop.   you dont have touse gnomes 'desktop shareing' feature.  you can use the actual vncserver service.
[02:52] <guhhh> leo_rockw: because the configurations files can still be saved, the base system is messed up
[02:52] <buttercups> guhhh, you didn't fsck a mounted partition did you
[02:52] <leo_rockw> guhhh: usually you save your ~
[02:53] <leo_rockw> guhhh: if you did what buttercups said... then yes, you will need to reinstall
[02:53] <guhhh> buttercups: sure i dont
[02:53] <Wifi-Phreak> Can anyone tell me, is there a way to revert back to Ubuntu 7.4 from 7.10?
[02:53] <stdin> !downgrade | Wifi-Phreak
[02:53] <ubotu> Wifi-Phreak: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[02:53] <leo_rockw> Wifi-Phreak: i would make ubotu tell you but i forgot the command. the answer is no
[02:54] <scguy318> Wifi-Phreak: if you clean-install i guess that would be it
[02:54] <nanbudh> how do i go about installing a previous version of the driver for my SIS integrated video adapter on asus motherboard. I am having graphics corruption in my gutsy installation, while it worked fine with daper
[02:54] <leo_rockw> or we can wait for stdin to help us out, thank you stdin :-)
[02:54] <stdin> :)
[02:54] <macd> Wifi-Phreak, do you have /home on a seperate partition by chance?
[02:55] <Wifi-Phreak> No
[02:55] <ouellettesr> does anyone have any idea what java programs I need to run worldwind java?
[02:56] <ouellettesr> I get this error Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: libgluegen-rt: libgluegen-rt.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:56] <macd> Wifi-Phreak, well, word to the wise, next time do that, then in case you ever need to reinstall, or an upgrade gets b0rked you can keep all of your settings, and saved files (assuming theyre in your home dir)
[02:56] <Wifi-Phreak> Is there anything anybody doesn't like about 7.10?
[02:56] <jorgerosa> hello adiv
[02:56] <adiv> jorgerosa ola :)
[02:56] <adiv> hello :)
[02:56] <ari_stress> Wifi-Phreak: well, i havent been able to print in 7.10
[02:56] <ari_stress> cups error [Job 30] Print file was not accepted (client-error-document-format-not-supported)!
[02:56] <sdondley> I reinstalled ubuntu on a dell. Now the network card no longer shows up in network maganger. do I run a dpkg command to have ubuntu try to detect the card and install the driver for me?
[02:57] <macd> sdondley, was your dell one of the preinstalled ubuntu ones?
[02:57] <sdondley> yeah
[02:57] <stdin> ouellettesr: that file doesn't exist in any ubuntu package on gutsy
[02:57] <macd> sdondley, and what model is it if so?
[02:57] <sdondley> I f*cked up the screen res settings and could not get a working x11 display so I reinstalled
[02:57] <Wifi-Phreak> Ari_stress what kind of printer you got?
[02:57] <macd> sdondley, on the dell website dell has specific ISO's for the models they ship with ubuntu, that have all the proper drivers rolled into them already
[02:58] <Wifi-Phreak> !7.10
[02:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[02:58] <sdondley> inspiron 530