[04:30] <sacarlson> himel: yes but even admin only means you can have sudo priv to view and play from your acount without sudo you will have to  sudo chown youruser:youruser /mnt
[04:30] <russ5811> ok. in terminal, as normal user i copied and pasted that.
[04:30] <russ5811> is there a way to verify i did it right?
[04:30] <KE1HA> kisplit, cd /directory with your files in it, then: rm -rf ./*
[04:31] <maxwellian> kisplit: BE CAREFUL, MAKE SURE you are in the right directory
[04:31] <kisplit> KE1HA: ahaha this is what 3 hours of sleep in two days does to you. Thanks
[04:31] <kisplit> maxwellian: Warning taken into consideration :)
[04:31] <KE1HA> LOL. definately, you can also do it from the Nautilus
[04:31]  * maxwellian sighs with relief :)
[04:31] <sacarlson> himel: you should at boot be able to go to places and see the partion you want to mount and it will automount it with your username as owner
[04:32] <maxwellian> russ5811: Good job, and yes.
[04:32] <thtdude94> Can anyone help me with downloading software? I havn't had any trouble until now but for a couple hours now I have been trying to download audacity and it is still at 0% it said it is waiting for other software managers to quit, but to my knowledge there aren't any open..
[04:32] <maxwellian> russ5811: As your normal user, type 'ls -l ~/Backup'
[04:32] <KE1HA> kisplit, If you tired, you may be better off witht eh File-manager :-)
[04:32] <himel> sacarlson: check this http://imagebin.org/108910
[04:33] <kisplit> KE1HA: laptop trackpad frustrates me so much lol
[04:33] <dtcrshr> hello, im following a guid here to create an  ftp server here, its a local network i just wanna do it for uploading a backup. Created with most promiscuous configuration i could, but still cant access via the windows xp machine, can anybody enlight me?
[04:33] <maxwellian> russ5811: You should see a list of files, and the third and fourth columns should be YOUR username, not root.
[04:33] <russ5811> max: here's a sample output is this: drwxr-xrwx  2 russ5811 russ5811   4096 2010-07-11 07:01 Resume
[04:33] <russ5811> Max: i think it looks ok.
[04:34] <sacarlson> himel: that is what you get when you first boot your system?  from places?
[04:34] <maxwellian> russ5811: Great, now that's all accessible, but I'd advise against the permissions you have set.
[04:34] <thtdude94> Can anyone tell me what to do when a program says that it is waiting for other software managers to quit but there are none open?
[04:34] <russ5811> Max: what do you mean?
[04:34] <magn3ts> How can this be made into a factoid or placed somewhere important. This is very vital information and quite frankly it's an embarassment that it didn't exist 10 minutes ago: http://cole.mickens.us/2010/08/09/manual-data-recovery-with-ecryptfs-and-ubuntu/
[04:34] <maxwellian> russ5811: You're probably not interested in a Unix file permissions primer, but you have it set so that any user can read and change your files.
[04:35] <rchewning> hi, i hope someone has some experience with luks and automouting at boot, on 10.04 running latest kernel and i can't get partitions to mount at boot. kernel hangs.
[04:35] <sacarlson> himel: you said before it worked.
[04:35] <himel> sacalson: no i got this morning
[04:35] <maxwellian> magn3ts: I don't think it's too hard to get access to the Ubuntu wiki pages.
[04:35] <russ5811> I'm the only user. If I understand correctly, someone would have to be physically at my system..am i right?
[04:35] <himel> sacarlson:yes 6h before
[04:35] <sacarlson> himel: did you try reboot?
[04:35] <xangua> magn3ts: maybe talking with the opps /J #ubuntu-ops
[04:36] <gary_inNYC> hi, is there a way to resize pictures within F-Spot?
[04:36] <himel> sacarlson: when i use reboot or shut down it not works
[04:36] <maxwellian> russ5811: That depends, do you allow ssh into your machine?
[04:36] <russ5811> ssh is network access correct?
[04:37] <maxwellian> russ5811: Secure SHell, it's a way to get command line access across a network, yes.
[04:37] <sacarlson> hemel: you have many options you can make it so you can see it now with chown himel:himel /mnt
[04:37] <russ5811> Max, i have this networked with my desktop, another laptop and a NAS device. Would that setup require SSH, and if so am i leaving it open to the web?
[04:38] <thune3> thtdude94: hard to tell. *cancel* (don't kill window) that upgrade and close out that application. open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get install audacity". Hopefully this will show a better error message.
[04:38] <himel> sacarlson: do i reinstall my ubuntu
[04:38] <sacarlson> himel: if you want it to work at boot then there must be something wrong in /etc/fstab file  pastebin that file
[04:39] <sacarlson> himel: that's an option if you don't have anything on this system yet.
[04:39] <maxwellian> russ5811: By default the Ubuntu setup is pretty safe, so I'm not trying to suggest you're at risk.
[04:40] <maxwellian> russ5811: I'm just pointing out that it's a good habit not to have more open file permissions than necessary.
[04:40] <himel> sacarlson: no i don't want to reinstall caz i download lots of things
[04:40] <ridin> !mintsupport | ridin
[04:40] <bastid_raZor> russ5811: the only way you would open ssh to the outside world would be by port forwarding port 22 to your internal IP
[04:40] <bastid_raZor> russ5811: that is.. if you're behind a router
[04:40] <nimbiotics> hi all. How do I reset compiz' configuration? ccsm->preferences->reset to defaults is not working: I've tried resetting it and then choosing some desktop effects but they just dont work. Thanks in advanced
[04:40] <russ5811> bastid...i'm behind a router...also, thanks
[04:41] <sacarlson> himel: or maybe your user account is setup wrong  you might want to check Administration>User Groups
[04:41] <himel> sacarlson: ok
[04:41] <russ5811> Max, i understand. I'll read up on SSH and re-evaluate. I'm trying to learn as much as I can. Also, thanks again for helping me with my files. :) saved me a lot of headache.
[04:41] <maxwellian> russ5811: Great, but you should do a quick search on Unix file permissions.
[04:42] <himel> sacarlson: i go there wht i check
[04:42] <sacarlson> himel: look under your himel account user privliges make sure access external storage box is checked
[04:42] <russ5811> Max: will do. Thanks... you guys have a great night/day.
[04:42] <maxwellian> russ5811: That's more pertinent to what I'm saying than ssh.  Otherwise you're set.  Good luck!
[04:43] <gary_inNYC> i can't seem to resize jpg files in F-Spot.  any suggestions?
[04:43] <bastid_raZor> gary_inNYC: use gimp instead?
[04:43] <sacarlson> himel: just check all the boxes your admin so you should be able to all that stuf
[04:43] <himel> sacarlson:ok
[04:44] <xawan> Hey everyone! I have a question about Docky....Any user of it here?
[04:44] <xangua> tried #docky xawan ¿
[04:44] <himel> sacarlson: not worked any options
[04:44] <sacarlson> gary_inNYC:  try gimp
[04:44] <gary_inNYC> i thought about gimp, but i was looking to see if i can go with what the distro included.  i remember older ubuntu had gimp preinstalled
[04:45] <gary_inNYC> thx, i'll be installing gimp :D
[04:45] <sacarlson>  himel: can't access admin groups users?
[04:45] <xawan> I dont understand Why it didn't works fluid in down, but in the sides it works excelent
[04:45] <xawan> #docky
[04:45] <xawan> asdsa
[04:45] <himel> sacarlson: i clicked add/delete/advanced setting/change  but not worked
[04:46] <himel> sacarlson: manage groups works wht i add
[04:47] <sacarlson> himel: under advanced goto user priliges
[04:49] <sacarlson> himel:  check all the priv boxes
[04:50] <gothic> need some help
[04:50] <gothic> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549568
[04:51] <himel> sacarlson: http://imagebin.org/108911
[04:51] <sacarlson> himel: hit the advanced boton
[04:51] <himel> sacarlson: not work
[04:52] <thune3> nimbiotics: if you close down gdm session (from tty
[04:52] <sacarlson> himel: did you enter the password?
[04:52] <ianwizard> hey all.
[04:52] <himel> sacarlson: when?
[04:52] <sacarlson> himel: send me the picture now then that's not working
[04:52] <nimbiotics> thune3: thanks, its already fixed
[04:53] <sacarlson> himel:  boton is grayed out?
[04:53] <thune3> nimbiotics: you could *probably* delete the whole ~/.gconf/apps/compiz and it would get regenerated when you "start gdm". this would be major drastic...... ah ok good, what did you do?
[04:53] <gothic> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549568
[04:53] <gothic> help plz
[04:53] <himel> sacarlson: iwhen i clicked the advanced nothing happen
[04:53] <gothic> please pm me if u have any info on it
[04:54] <sacarlson> himel: maybe this account isn't the admin?
[04:54] <gothic> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549568
[04:54] <himel> sacarlson: but its my admin
[04:55] <himel> sacarlson: how i check who is my admin?
[04:56] <sacarlson> himel:  I don't know google it
[04:56] <sacarlson> himel: all I know is you should be user number 1000
[04:57] <Guest16416> I have a USB touchscreen but the Y axis is switched.  How do I calibrate it?
[04:57] <himel> sacarlson: how i check my user id
[04:57] <sacarlson> himel: that's normaly the first user that is asigned admin this can be seen at /etc/passwd file
[04:57] <texastwister> himel: try: cat /etc/passwd
[04:57] <Guest16416> I have a USB touchscreen but the Y axis is switched.  How do I calibrate it?
[04:57] <bastid_raZor> himel: in a terminal type: grep admin /etc/group   ..the output will tell you who is in the admin group.
[04:58] <texastwister> himel: Your admin account will be #1000
[04:59] <Guest16416> Everything I've seen is for serial interfaces.   It appears as though mine is more rare.
[04:59] <himel> himel:x:1000:1000:himel,,,:/home/himel:/bin/bash
[04:59] <sacarlson> texastwister: himel: thanks texastwister please help him
[05:00] <ianwizard> I'm (trying) to install from the alternate image, but on a netbook, so I have to mount the iso on /cdrom/ to get it to work,  I'm setting up full encryption, and LVM.  But now the install is failing saying something about not knowing what system its on (probably something about uname)
[05:00] <texastwister> sacarlson: sure, I'll give it a shot.  himel:  I just joined though, so please bring me up to speed on your problem.
[05:00] <gothic> earth calling to ubuntu
[05:00] <gothic> need some help
[05:00] <gothic> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549568
[05:01] <sacarlson> texastwister: himel: he couldn't mount his windows disk seems he had privlige problems.  it can mount manualy but at boot seems he can't
[05:01] <texastwister> himel: Is it mounted now?
[05:02] <himel> texastwister: i don't know
[05:02] <sacarlson> texastwister: himel:  I googled to find him  help on user groups but the stuf I find is old
[05:02] <ianwizard> I'm familiar with dm-crypt, but I'm entirely new to LVM, now that I've got the partitions set up, can I use the regular installer to finish up the install?  if I mount the crypto, and set it up to mount on boot?
[05:02] <gothic> can anyone help me plz
[05:02] <no_u0> anyone who where i can get the /usr/includes/kde files from?
[05:02] <ianwizard> what do I need to do for LVM to work right?
[05:03] <gothic> help please
[05:03] <gothic> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549568
[05:03] <himel> texastwister:when i clicked it says "Unable to mount system drive" not authorized
[05:03] <himel> sacarlson: how u search me?
[05:04] <texastwister> himel: Do you have a terminal open?
[05:04] <himel> texastwister:yes
[05:04] <texastwister> himel: type: mount
[05:04] <himel> texastwister:ok
[05:04] <texastwister> himel: and tell me what it outputs --post to pastebin if yo need help interpreting it.
[05:06] <texastwister> gothic:  If no one responds, it generally means no one who is on right now knows off the top of our heads and are too busy helping others with easier problems to dig it out right now.  Not ignoring you but patience is needed.
[05:06] <sacarlson> texastwister: himel:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/475730/  he already did that his disk /dev/sda3 is the one he fails to mount at boot with privlige problems
[05:07] <himel> texastwister:http://paste.ubuntu.com/475748/
[05:07] <gothic> sacarlson
[05:07] <gothic> cna u help me plz
[05:07] <sacarlson> texastwister: himel:  it will mount with sudo
[05:08] <erpo> I'm storing a few TB of data and would like my system to detect and correct data corruption using redundancy. The only filesystems I know of that can do this are btrfs and zfs-fuse, neither of which are ready for production use. Suggestions?
[05:08] <gothic> cna anyone help me plz
[05:08] <gothic> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549568
[05:08] <sacarlson> gothic: I looked I can't help you
[05:08] <gothic> thank
[05:08] <texastwister> himel: Okay, have you also posted your /etc/fstab already?
[05:09] <sacarlson> texastwister: himel:  no that should be next post that /etc/fstab
 don't know! how i check etc/fstab
[05:10] <texastwister> himel: Are you wanting the windows filesystem to mount automatically each time linux boots, or just to be able to mount it when needed from the desktop icon?
[05:11] <texastwister> himel: run this and post output to pastebin: cat /etc/fstab
 when i boot its came automatically but this morning i got this problem
[05:13] <zetheroo> is this always such a pain? getting a DVB-T device to work in Linux ...!?
bash: cat/etc/fstab: No such file or directory
[05:14] <texastwister> himel: need a space between cat and /etc
[05:14] <Niglop> how can i mount sdc so i dont have to be root to change the contents of it
[05:15] <sacarlson> zetheroo what's DVB-T?  Digital Video Broadcasting — Terrestrial
[05:15] <abhijain> hello
[05:15] <abhijain> everyone
[05:15] <texastwister> Niglop: what filesystem is on sdc?
[05:15] <abhijit> abhijain, ????
[05:15] <abhijain> how to update grub2 after installation
[05:15] <Niglop> texastwister» ext2
[05:15] <zetheroo> sacarlson: I guess so
[05:16] <abhijit> ahh
[05:16] <gothic> no one is familiar with proxychains in here :<
[05:16] <abhijain> abhijit: what re you doing here
[05:16] <himel>  <texastwister>sacarlson>is it safe pastebin/imagebin??
[05:16] <abhijit> abhijain, what are you doing here? :P
[05:16] <abhijain> abhijit: tp
[05:16] <abhijit> abhijain, me too.
[05:17] <sacarlson> himel:  texastwister: the password isn't in that file it's in shadow so yes it's safe
[05:17] <texastwister> Niglop:  I think you should be able, as root, to just set the appropriate ownership/permissions on the filesystem while mounted, no?
[05:17] <himel>  <texastwister>sacarlson>http://imagebin.org/108914
[05:17] <abhijain> abhijain: why u dont online with gmail
[05:17] <Niglop> idk texastwister , how?
[05:18] <himel>  <texastwister>sacarlson> if i gave u password do u can access my computer? {just asking}
[05:19] <texastwister> himel: depends on your network but I'd rather not do that.
[05:19] <sacarlson> himel: I guess you need sudo cat /etc/fstab
[05:20] <ecart> galera preciso de ajuda
[05:20] <Niglop> idk texastwister , how?
[05:20] <bastid_raZor> sacarlson: fstab is readable by all. sudo is not needed
[05:20] <texastwister> Niglop: working.... one moment
[05:20] <Niglop> kk
[05:20] <abhijit> !fixgrub | abhijain
[05:21] <himel>  <texastwister>sacarlson> but others people here so.....if they harm mine
[05:21] <bastid_raZor> !info ntfs-config
[05:21] <abhijit> ecart, which languahe?
[05:21] <bastid_raZor> that may be something that will help.
[05:21] <abhijit> ecart, which language?
[05:22] <himel>  <texastwister>sacarlson>now wht?
[05:22] <sacarlson> bastid_raZor: your right I didn't notice he didn't put a space between cat and /etc
[05:23] <abhijit> !tb | himel
[05:23] <abhijit> !tab | himel
[05:23] <bastid_raZor> himel: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows   :this may help for a GUI method.
[05:23] <abhijit> :-o
[05:23] <texastwister> Niglop: Assuming your /dev/sdc filesystem is mounted at /mnt/data, and your user name is niglop, try this: sudo chown -R niglop.niglop /mnt/data
[05:25] <Aemaeth> is there a program that would mirror a website within linux similar to teleport pro? or do i need to virtualbox me up a copy?
[05:25] <bitplane> Hi, I'm wondering about the progress of webm video. Any idea how I can check when Ubuntu will get ffmpeg 0.6 out of the box?
[05:25] <texastwister> himel: I agree with bastid_raZor, his link may be easiest for you.  Try that and let us know if it doesn't work for you.
[05:26] <Niglop> texastwister»  i tried sudo chown -R adam.adam /mnt
[05:26] <Niglop> it did nothing
[05:27] <rww> bitplane: It'll be in Ubuntu Maverick, which is coming out in October
[05:27] <bitplane> thanks rww
[05:27] <texastwister> Niglop: Please run in a terminal and post to pastebin the results of: sudo mount
[05:28] <bitplane> rww, so now is the time to start making web publishing tools I guess
[05:29] <Niglop> texastwister»  http://pastebin.com/RpZrMWnh
[05:29] <smooth_> jellow: Hey this is mxe5 - I'm on my lappy now - Wanted to let ya know that link I sent ya was actually pretty easy and painless......
[05:30] <smooth_> What ng ? ?is the shell command to see what version of Ubuntu you are runni
[05:30] <bastid_raZor> smooth_: lsb_release -a
[05:31] <texastwister> Niglop: Okay -- my command was based on incorrect info you provided and you didn't change to fit your situation.  Try this instead:
[05:31] <smooth_> bastid_raZor: Thank you...
[05:31] <CarlFK> trying to install 10.4 on an HP 2540p, screen goes black when it tries to go into X.  lspci says "VGA... Intel Core Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller"  how do I dumb down the installer to use less magic?
[05:32] <texastwister> Niglop: sudo chown -R adam.adam /media/disk
[05:32] <bastid_raZor> smooth_: you're welcome.
[05:32] <Niglop> it worked texastwister  :D:D
[05:32] <Niglop> thanks mate!
[05:32] <texastwister> Cool -- Glad to help!
[05:32] <Niglop> thankss
[05:34] <Guest16416> So none knows?
[05:34] <surfplus> hello, how do i change the image of my lockscreen?
[05:35] <skumara> when i start ubuntu it say gave up waiting for root. from bios I cant see my dvd rom anymore. help
[05:35] <surfplus> i tried changing the image source from /usr/share/backgrounds then restrating X, however, the lockscreen seems to be remembering the first image
[05:35] <sacarlson> CarlFK: try this http://blog.mydream.com.hk/howto/ubuntu-10-10-maverick-with-hp-elitebook-2540p
[05:36] <sacarlson> CarlFK: i915.modeset=0  seems to be the key
[05:37] <gary_inNYC> I believe there is something wrong with F-Spot's add-ins repo, i get an errors out when refreshing for available packages
[05:38] <CarlFK> sacarlson: does  i915.modeset=0 come before or after the -- on the boot options line in the u installer?
[05:39] <CarlFK> heh  - I think it won[t hurt to do both :)
[05:39] <sacarlson> CarlFK: I don't know what did the link say?  I don't have one
[05:39] <gary_inNYC> i go to FSpot's manage extensions, add-in manager, install add-ins button, then hit refresh, then error
[05:39] <myke2> Hi
[05:39] <myke2> typedef long long keytype
[05:39] <bastid_raZor> gary_inNYC: i get the same error.. 404 on the server.
[05:39] <myke2> typedef long long keytype;
[05:39] <myke2> What's wrong?
[05:40] <CarlFK> sacarlson: the link says "install maverick" which is not what I am trying to do :)
[05:40] <myke2> in ubuntu gcc
[05:40] <sacarlson> CarlFK: yes but step 2 and 3 sound like what you need to do at boot
[05:41] <CarlFK> sacarlson: but thanks, this does have what I need....  so yeah..  but the screen just went blank again.  maybe I will grab mav...
[05:41] <sacarlson> CarlFK:  if that doesn't work maybe install what he has
[05:42] <gary_inNYC> did some searching on the fspot extensions issue, i believe it's bug 606734 cited in launchpad.  going to confirm.  thx
[05:43] <surfplus> how do i change the lockscreen wallpaper?
[05:43] <jinxzs> !pm
[05:44] <enjo255> Is there a 'right' way to run an upstart job as a non-privileged user?
[05:44] <abhijit> !upstart
[05:45] <maco> enjo255: starting system services is an administrative task, not something for end users
[05:45] <maco> enjo255: you *could* give a user sudo rights that are for a specific command which starts that service though
[05:45] <hunterm> surfplus: i believe it's a gconf option
[05:46] <surfplus> hunterm is there a way to change it?
[05:46] <enjo255> which is more less what I'm doing... I wasn't sure if I was missing an upstart statement somewhere.
[05:48] <hunterm> surfplus: yeah, open gconf-editor, look for /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename
[05:48] <hunterm> change the value to the absolute path to the background you want
[05:49] <jinxzs> how to know if your video driver is installed
[05:50] <surfplus> hunterm it just worked, thanks a lot ;)
[05:51] <hunterm> no prob :)
[05:56] <pkores> Any ssh experts in the crowd?
[05:56] <abhijit> !ssh
[05:56] <maco> pkores: i wouldnt say im an expert on it, but i know a bit about configuring it. whats up?
[05:57] <fatum> Can anyone recommend a decent macro recorder for gnome?  I tried out xnee / gnee, but it errors whenever I attempt to record.  I'm basically wanting to ctrl + v in a text box, and then hit enter, then to repeat for however many steps.
[05:57] <fastijum> “for it’s homepage”?!
[05:58] <pkores> If I used public key private key authentication, and have pass word authentication turned off on my ssh server, do I need to configure deniedhost as well?
[05:58] <abhijit> bye all.
[05:59] <rww> pkores: assuming you mean denyhosts, no, not really
[05:59] <Wingless> Links don't appear to be working on my machine: Ubuntu 8.10.  When, in a terminal window, I create a file in a test directory with "touch file", create a link to it with "ln file link", confirm the file and the link's presence, and then remove the file with "rm file", the link remains.  By default, ln creates hardlinks, so why does link remain when I delete file??  The same thing happens if I delete link instead of file.
[05:59] <pkores> Denyhost right.  Thanks that's what I thought.
[06:00] <rww> Wingless: because that's the correct behavior for hard links?
[06:01] <Wingless> rww: so are you saying that the information here is not applicable to Ubuntu 8.10? http://dsl.org/cookbook/cookbook_8.html#SEC121
[06:01] <Wingless> "This command makes a hard link from an existing file, `seattle', to a new file, `emerald-city'. You can read and edit file `emerald-city' just as you would `seattle'; any changes you make to `emerald-city' are also written to `seattle' (and vice versa). If you remove the file `emerald-city', file `seattle' is also removed. "
[06:02] <maco> Wingless: youre mixing up symlinks and hard links
[06:02] <Wingless> ls
[06:02] <rww> Wingless: if you removed all of the contents from 'seattle', they'd be removed from 'emerald-city' too. If you just rm seattle, emerald-city won't be deleted
[06:02] <enav> hi i want to have a portable ubuntu on my 4Gb pendrive  to use it anywhere... can u give info about how to do it???
[06:02] <rww> maco: I think the guide itself is wrong
[06:02] <Wingless> maco: I checked the man for ln, and it says that the default behavior is to create hard links, not symlinks
[06:02] <maco> Wingless: may i suggest http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2009/11/links.html
[06:02] <maco> Wingless: right
[06:03] <bazhang> !unetbootin> enav
[06:03] <maco> Wingless: but your guide is describing symlinks while saying hardlinks
[06:03] <maco> Wingless: read my blog explanation instead ;-)
[06:03] <rww> Wingless: It's not that it's just wrong for Ubuntu, btw. The behavior is the same for all Linuxes I know of
[06:04] <rww> Wingless: by the way, Ubuntu 8.10 was End of Lifed back in April, so you're not getting security updates any more. I'd recommend upgrading asap.
[06:04] <Wingless> I see.  well, I'll take a look at your blog entry and see if things make more sense
[06:04] <Wingless> as for my ubuntu version...is upgrading ubuntu itself difficult?
[06:05] <maco> !intrepid | Wingless
[06:05] <rww> Wingless: not particularly. I'll have the infobot send you instructions
[06:05] <maco> !eol | Wingless
[06:05] <rww> ... or maco will ;P
[06:05] <maco> Wingless: there's a button you click that does it. but since it's EOL you have to do one step before that
[06:05] <maco> rww: i am faster than you!
[06:14] <Wingless> maco: I read your blog post.  I didn't find the index example to be very informative, but if you're basically saying that hardlinks point to the data while symlinks point to the file name, which points to the data, then that makes sense.  Is a hard link that points to some data any different from the "file name" that the data was originally given?
[06:14] <maco> Wingless: yes, thats exactly what its saying :)  and no, its not any different. its just one piece of data having two names
[06:16] <Wingless> okay, so if I make a file by typing "touch foo", I've created what you could call a reference to some data somewhere.  If I then create a hard link by typing "ln foo foolink", the new "hardlink" foolink is just another reference that points to the same data -- in other words, both foo and foolink are the same kind of thing (a reference), but foolink is referred to as a hard link simply because it wasn't the first one to be created?
[06:16] <maco> Wingless: exactly
[06:16] <Wingless> ok, cool
[06:16] <Wingless> thanks
[06:16] <Wingless> and so
[06:16] <Wingless> when I type "rm foo" or "rm foolink" I'm only removing that reference, not the data itself
[06:17] <Wingless> and so it's natural for foolink to remain if I remove foo, and for foo to remain if I remove foolink
[06:17] <Wingless> that makes sense.
[06:17] <maco> Wingless: yep. fun fact: even if you rm foo and theres no link the data still isnt *really* removed unless you've got your filesystem set to secure mode (at least in the case of ext3/4)
[06:18] <Wingless> BTW, I noticed that when I open up my test file foo in gedit by typing "gedit foo", another file of size 0 is created with the name "foo~" in the same directory.  it's there after I close Gedit.  what's up with that?
[06:18] <maco> Wingless: it becomes unfindable by normal means but forensics would still work. secure mode overwrites where the data was
[06:18] <Wingless> i see
[06:18] <Wingless> yeah.  I've heard about that for Windows, but I see how that would work on Linux too
[06:19] <maco> Wingless: some editors make a backup of the original data and then write a new file then move the pointer to point to the new file, that way if theres a crash before write, at least the old data's still there
[06:20] <Wingless> yeah but why's gedit gotta clutter up my folders with foo~?  is that unavoidable? :/
[06:21] <booi> mine deletes the ~ file after you quit
[06:21] <rww> Wingless: there's an option in preferences to not make backup copies like that
[06:21] <Wingless> hmmmmm
[06:21] <rww> I'm not in GNOME, so I'm not sure where exactly it is. It's right by the autosave one, iirc
[06:21] <booi> the ~ file is only there while the file is open.
[06:21] <Wingless> My gedit seems to leave the files there even after I've closeed it
[06:22] <rww> booi: 8.10 leaves them there after you close gedit by default
[06:22] <Wingless> oh
[06:22] <rww> that wasn't changed until 10.04 I think
[06:22] <Wingless> So you have to change a preference in Gedit itself?
[06:22] <rww> yup
[06:22] <booi> rww: ah, i see.
[06:22] <booi> sounds like emacs. amirite guys?
[06:23] <rww> dunno, I use nano and mousepad ;P
[06:23] <Wingless> yay, i found it.  fixed it.  no more ~ backups.
[06:23] <hunterm> it still does that on 10.04 for me
[06:24] <hunterm> but then again, i changed it to make backups ;)
[06:24] <cablop> i have a problem, my network settings ongnome, on my user are screwed up
[06:24] <cablop> how can i fix them or recreate them?
[06:25] <cablop> they didn't reflex my real settings and i have a duplicated eth0!
[06:26] <cablop> i think the gnome|ubuntu network manager is bugged, deeply bugged
[06:26] <trelayne> hey all, anyone have a good email software suggestion for outgoing mail on an ubuntu internet server?
[06:27] <israfel_> trelayne, Didn't it come with evolution?
[06:27] <israfel_> trelayne, I think Evolution is compatible with exchange as well.
[06:28] <trelayne> israfel, I mean for sending out email to subscribers of an email list...
[06:28] <trelayne> sendmail type software I mean
[06:29] <israfel_> trelayne, Like an auto-mailer? Not sure. I haven't used Evolution either.
[06:29] <trelayne> ok thanks israfel
[06:29] <cablop> i prefer thnderbird
[06:30] <cablop> the sibling of firefox
[06:31] <trelayne> I was thinking more interms of MTA and MUA
[06:31] <trelayne> I mean MDA
[06:31] <trelayne> and MTA
[06:31] <ylmfos> HELLO
[06:31] <iluminator101> hey guys i get this error with my brother 7420 scanner failed to open device device ' brother2:bus2;dev1' invalid argument
[06:34] <ShapeShifter499> can someone help me purge all my sound drivers, as I'm not quite sure what could be installed, and that I want to start fresh before tweaking anything (currently my built in mic don't work, and headset doesn't work right)
[06:34] <israfel_> trelayne, Oh, also, most ISPs throttle port 25, to prevent most spambots from doing too much damage.
[06:38] <israfel_> Wow, it's actually quiet in here. =)
[06:41] <Connor1> What do I do if I can connect to a wireless network but websites won't load?
[06:41] <tensorpudding> Connor1: Can you ping a website?
[06:41] <rezolute> is it your network?
[06:41] <iluminator101> hey guys i get this error with my brother 7420 scanner failed to open device device ' brother2:bus2;dev1' invalid argument
[06:41] <maco> Connor1: check that DNS works?  "host google.com"
[06:41] <Connor1> tensorpudding no
[06:41] <tensorpudding> Is the website on your network?
[06:41] <Connor1> rezolute no
[06:41] <Connor1> tensorpudding no
[06:42] <tensorpudding> Okay, sounds like your DNS is not working.
[06:42] <rezolute> heh. well if its not your network, then you're locked out in some way.
[06:42] <Connor1> My desktop is fine though
[06:42] <tensorpudding> What kind of errors are you getting?
[06:42] <tensorpudding> Connection timeouts?
[06:42] <Connor1> None
[06:42] <maco> Connor1: check dns resolution
[06:42] <Connor1> the website just loads forever
[06:42] <tensorpudding> That usually indicates a timeout.
[06:43] <tensorpudding> try browsing to http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[06:43] <tensorpudding> err nevermind
[06:43] <tensorpudding> stupid dns making static hostnames hard to find
[06:44] <tensorpudding> If your network is fine, but DNS is down, it should show an error page with Access Denied.
[06:46] <cablop> why why why whyyyyyy ubuntu keeps adding me my existing networks again with new names???
[06:49] <ghufran> hi. im having trouble connecting to wireless networks. it doesnt work intermittently. it keeps asking me the security key but doesnt connect. the security key is fine and works with other non-ubuntu machines. sometimes restarting or disabling / enabling the network seems to make it work
[06:49] <ghufran> any ideas?
[06:50] <hasenj> ghufran: I had a similar problem before
[06:50] <cablop> find a better driver for your wifi device
[06:50] <hasenj> ghufran: it was caused by a kernel installed from a ppa
[06:51] <hasenj> ghufran: and the solution was to purge that ppa and everything it installed to revert back to the official (canonical provided) kernel
[06:51] <iluminator101> hey guys i get this error with my brother 7420 scanner failed to open device device ' brother2:bus2;dev1' invalid argument
[06:51] <jijunwei> hello,everyone
[06:51] <ghufran> i didnt do any such thing hasenj . i just installed it from the online downloaded iso
[06:51] <cablop> iluminator, check permissions on your user
[06:51] <israfel_> ewww, Brother scanners.
[06:52] <AndroUser> I'm trying to use the alternate installer.  but i keep getting the error "Failed to determine the codename for the release."
[06:53] <Wingless> If I install a program using apt-get (e.g., "sudo apt-get install lynx"), will Synaptic know about it?
[06:53] <AndroUser> I really need help, because my system is down untill i can get this installed.  i assumed it was a problem with uname  but it seems ok.
[06:53] <AndroUser> wingless, yes
[06:53] <Wingless> AndroUser: And I can remove the program safely and completely with either apt-get or synaptic?
[06:55] <AndroUser> it is stored in a central "database" on your system.
[06:55] <AndroUser> yes.
[06:55] <AndroUser> as long as ita not something that your system depends on
[06:55] <ShapeShifter499> I think I'm going to start with a fresh ubuntu install....
[06:56] <ShapeShifter499> what do about my GPG key I used with my Launchpad account?
[06:56] <AndroUser> technically, all if the package managers (synaptic, apt, aptitude, the add programs botton in the menu) are just interfaces to dpkg.
[06:57] <Wingless> Thanks, AndroUser
[06:57] <Wingless> errr I thought you had replied to m y last question; that wasn't meant to be sarcastic :P
[07:00] <AndroUser> (AndroUser) i'm using debootstrap (actually ubuntu alternate installer)  and its saying 'Failed to determine the releases cosename.'
[07:00] <AndroUser> how can i remedy this
[07:03] <Ameise> Hello.
[07:04] <Ameise> I'm trying to compile a kernel (for VirtualBox use) that disables a lot of kernel-level debugging, and enables my CPUs optimizations. I put most of the SATA controllers into kernel (*) and the ext4, ramfs, and xfs file systems into the kernel. It builds, but when I boot
[07:04] <Ameise> it simply complains that it couldn't find the drive.
[07:04] <Ameise> any thoughts>
[07:04] <Ameise> im using the Ubuntu kernel from the Ubuntu GIT
[07:06] <dean[w]> Does anyone have any idea why skype for linux (latest version) would have context menus that are unreadable. For example when I right click a contact it is dark grey with black text which is unreadable. Any solutions would be great
[07:06] <n-iCe> dean[w]: change ubuntu theme
[07:06] <Ameise> it's frustrating me as the stock Ubuntu kernel works, and im using the Ubuntu configs
[07:07] <michael__> hey
[07:07] <Ameise> im using GRUB2, so the mounts are set by UUID
[07:08] <vemon> anyone noticed that in lucid the windows don't stack the same way as in karmic? when i open four terminals, they don't open up nicely tiled and centered
[07:08] <N3VV3K> mine seem to open nicely
[07:09] <N3VV3K> vemon
[07:09] <vemon> instead i get two terminal windows next to each other to upper left corner of the screen, one in the lower left corner and one in the lower right corner
[07:09] <vemon> N3VV3K, hmh.. i wonder what's wrong with my setup then
[07:09] <Ameise> no one here who does kernel builds?
[07:09] <vemon> i get the same behavior with to comuters both running almost-out-of-the-box lucid
[07:09] <N3VV3K> i have a dual monitor setup
[07:10] <N3VV3K> i dont think that would make a difference
[07:10] <vemon> well it shouldn't
[07:10] <N3VV3K> does anyone know how i can have two different backgrounds
[07:11] <vemon> i figured it out! it's the desktop effects which cause this bad tiling behavior. when i turn effects off, i get nice tiling of windows
[07:11] <dean[w]> n-iCe, im using stock ubuntu theme
[07:11] <vemon> otherwise the windows seem to open up pretty randomly
[07:11] <dean[w]> context menus work in all other apps fine
[07:11] <N3VV3K> there must be some setting vemon
[07:12] <vemon> N3VV3K, yes i need to check the settings of compiz
[07:12] <Ameise> well
[07:12] <Ameise> watching it compile again
[07:12] <vemon> haven't messed around with those in a while, since i've always ended up disabling all effects :)
[07:12] <Ameise> i'm not confident in it's success though
[07:12] <N3VV3K> im not to familiar with compiling
[07:13] <Ameise> well
[07:13] <Ameise> the compiling isn't the issue.
[07:13] <Ameise> it succeeds in that.
[07:13] <Ameise> booting the image is the issue
[07:13] <N3VV3K> im a little higher than an intermediate user but im not advanced yet
[07:13] <N3VV3K> what are you compiling
[07:13] <vemon> Ameise, do you also create an initrd image?
[07:13] <Ameise> Linux Kernel, Ubuntu flavor
[07:13] <Ameise> yes
[07:13] <vemon> ah, so you compile it from the ubuntu sources?
[07:13] <N3VV3K> when you say compiling what do you mean
[07:13] <Ameise> yes
[07:13] <vemon> should be easy enough
[07:14] <Ameise> it compiles, GRUB2 sees it
[07:14] <Ameise> then it won't boot.
[07:14] <vemon> what does it say?
[07:14] <Ameise> im recompiling... let you know the exact error when it's done
[07:14] <Ameise> mainly that it couldn't read te drive.
[07:14] <N3VV3K> is it better to compile ubuntu from source rather then using a normal install disk
[07:14] <Ameise> it timed out on it
[07:14] <Ameise> there were no drives listed in /dev/
[07:15] <Ameise> i had the same problem at work today, but at work I tried compiling from the latest vanilla kernel
[07:15] <vemon> Ameise, that's what my realtime kernel also complains when launched from grub, but it still works
[07:15] <Ameise> mine complains, and exit causes a kernel panic.
[07:15] <vemon> no wait... the error was something like "failed to mount none in /dev"
[07:15] <Ameise> on this system, quick booting is necessary so I can't have a kernel that requires manual commands to start also
[07:16] <Ameise> mine can't find the drive, period
[07:16] <n-iCe> Hello! is there any way to know where was my Ubuntu installation done?
[07:16] <Ameise> at work I use it for actual work, so I need a fast kernel (it'd be nice)
[07:16] <vemon> Ameise, you should compare the grub.cfg listings of a working and non-working kernels
[07:16] <Ameise> here, I use it to switch between copying files and testing images.
[07:16] <Ameise> i only changed... maybe 7 things
[07:16] <Ameise> nothing related directly to files
[07:17] <Ameise> file systems/drivers
[07:17] <corpsegrindr> any admins on?
[07:17] <corpsegrindr> mt
[07:17] <Ameise> i disabled kernel debugging, and enabled AMD optimizations
[07:17] <n-iCe> how can I Know when I installed ubuntu
[07:18] <hunterm> n-iCe when you are running it.
[07:19] <grendal_prime> ok im loosing it
[07:19] <grendal_prime> cannot for the life of me get my ssl apache2 server working
[07:19] <n-iCe> hunterm: when I installed it
[07:19] <grendal_prime> it literally...just doesnt start up...
[07:20] <grendal_prime> i enabled the site with a2ensite..says its there...but when i restart apache it doesnt even try and fire up the second virutal host...
[07:20] <N3VV3K> isnt that like a 1 click process @ grendal_prime
[07:20] <N3VV3K> o nvm
[07:20] <Ameise> Linux has to be the most frustrating kernel in existance
[07:20] <Ameise> other than maybe minix
[07:20] <N3VV3K> im thinking lamp
[07:21] <N3VV3K> yeah but i love it
[07:21] <grendal_prime> Ameise, i dont know...who cares..not like we dink with the kernel..
[07:21] <grendal_prime> do you have any idea how many people are developing apps based on that kernel now.
[07:21] <Ameise> why not?
[07:22] <grendal_prime> its bound to be confusing.
[07:22] <andyis> hello
[07:22] <Ameise> well
[07:22] <andyis> Also, its a KERNEL
[07:22] <andyis> Its meant to be an interface into machine code
[07:22] <Ameise> linux is a product of million monkeys syndrome
[07:22] <Ameise> andyis incorrect abstraction, but close.
[07:22] <tensorpudding> The kernel is important.
[07:22] <Ameise> i could certainly go write an application for Win32 in machine code.
[07:22] <andyis> Well, yeah
[07:22] <andyis> Sorry
[07:22] <grendal_prime> dude...you should do that
[07:22] <Ameise> the kernel is the interface between your operating system runtimes and the BIOS
[07:23] <grendal_prime> run allong now and do that.
[07:23] <Ameise> im already a systems engineer - why would I want to punish myself and do that?
[07:23] <andyis> But its farther doen than almost anything you will use
[07:23] <Ameise> err
[07:23] <Ameise> I write kernels and drivers for a living.
[07:23] <grendal_prime> why are you here then...go do it al yourself
[07:23] <andyis> Oh
[07:23] <grendal_prime> in the mean time
[07:23] <Ameise> because you normally use a stable, proven system to develop off of
[07:23] <andyis> Well, Leave me and my PDS 3 and PPI ruleset language then
[07:24] <N3VV3K> does anyone use bsd?
[07:24] <grendal_prime> lots of people
[07:24] <Ameise> linux/GCC tends to be better at doing system-level work than Win32/VS
[07:24] <Ameise> :P
[07:24] <grendal_prime> i would not be one of them.
[07:24] <N3VV3K> is it mostly for server use
[07:24] <andyis> Yay
[07:24] <andyis> :)
[07:25] <ubuntu> yeah thats right
[07:25] <ubuntu> livecd
[07:25] <Ameise> either way
[07:25] <Ameise> Linux doesn't like being compiled.
[07:25] <tensorpudding> you guys can move that discussion to ##linux if you want
[07:25] <adalal> hey, i have a question regarding services that are set to autostart... I have wakeonlan enabled, but that only works if someone logs into the computer after being switched on, and then switched off... I would like the service to start when the computer starts, whether or not someone logs in, any help?
[07:26] <Ameise> tensorpudding - that's one of those many IRC channels that I tend to avoid.
[07:26] <garry> how i share files between ubuntu and my windows machine
[07:26] <Ameise> samba
[07:26] <n-iCe> what is it for: linux-backports-modules-wireless-`uname -r`
[07:26] <tensorpudding> Ameise: maybe an off-topic channel
[07:26] <N3VV3K> garry i think you can use drop box
[07:26] <tensorpudding> garry: Samba if you want the equivalent of Windows File Sharing
[07:26] <Ameise> well, my issue is definitely ubuntu-related
[07:27] <garry> ya that i know i have installed smaba and its gui mode but i am new to it i dont know how to do it
[07:27] <Ember[1]> I'm trying to install powerpc ubuntu on a laptop but when i run it off the cd it fails to login, so i'm stuck at the login screen, what should i do?
[07:27] <garry> help me
[07:27] <garry> i have installed virtualbox
[07:27] <Ameise> do you know how to mount filesystems?
[07:27] <garry> no
[07:27] <Ameise> wait
[07:27] <Ameise> are you running Ubuntu in virtualbox?
[07:27] <Ameise> on a windows system?
[07:27] <tensorpudding> garry: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[07:28] <garry> no winodws xp in viraulbox
[07:28] <Ameise> oh.
[07:28] <Ameise> a wee bit different.
[07:28] <garry> ya i seen this but i cant understand
[07:28] <tensorpudding> There are easier ways to share files than samba...
[07:28] <Ameise> easier to access windows from linux than linux from windows
[07:28] <tensorpudding> if you're using Vbox
[07:28] <tensorpudding> You can have a shared folder
[07:28] <tensorpudding> You need to install Guest Additions for it though
[07:28] <garry> i have 2 system one is having windows and other is having linux
[07:29] <grendal_prime> dont be such a puss ...buy yourself a filler and be done with it
[07:29] <grendal_prime> hahaha
[07:29] <garry> how i share file between them
[07:29] <tensorpudding> garry: Read the VirtualBox documentation for shared folders
[07:29] <grendal_prime> install webmin on the linux box and set it up as cifs filler.
[07:29] <tensorpudding> Install the VirtualBox Guest Additions for Windows inside the VM, then configure the shared folders
[07:30] <grendal_prime> you could also just get winscp on the windows box
[07:30] <Ember[1]> any help for my previous question?
[07:30] <garry> i installed webmin but when i restart webmin it shows me acess deined
[07:30] <Thopter> When I double-click a .html file to open it in firefox, not only does the file not open in Firefox, but my system starts acting odd... the mouse hesitates when I move it across the screen, and anything that usually shows a smooth animation also hitches.  I figure the html file is being read by something it shouldn't, and it's affecting my system.  how do I find out what it's doing and stop it from happening again?
[07:30] <sweb> how can i delete old version of kernel that listet on grub
[07:30] <sacarlson> garry: try samba
[07:30] <sweb> ?
[07:30] <grendal_prime>  but if you need  a filler you need to set up a samba/cifs server. pretty simple with webmin..alot of things get very easy with that tool..
[07:31] <roccity_> Thopter, try running firefox and the file from a terminal
[07:31] <grendal_prime> its dangerouse but..you can lock it down and make it pretty safe..and its pretty easy to figer out.
[07:31] <garry> i have samba but i dont know how to share files
[07:31] <roccity_> open a terminal and type firefox and file.html where file.html is the file
[07:31] <tensorpudding> There's really no reason to setup Samba for this situation, just use the VirtualBox guest additions...
[07:32] <grendal_prime> garry download webmin on your linx box
[07:32] <garry> ya i downlaoded webmin
[07:32] <garry> installed it
[07:32] <grendal_prime> install it
[07:32] <grendal_prime> browse to it
[07:32] <garry> what to do nest
[07:32] <sacarlson> sweb: I think you just cd /boot  and delete the one not used or plan on using but not sure you want to do that you may need them someday
[07:32] <garry> ya i open server
[07:32] <Thopter> roccity_: I know how to get the file open in firefox, I'm looking for a way to undo what has happened to my system, short of a reboot.  the intefering behaviour continues indefinitely
[07:32] <grendal_prime> look at samba section.
[07:33] <grendal_prime> its pretty intuitive
[07:33] <grendal_prime> create a share...open it to everyone,  then browse to the share from the windows box.
[07:33] <Thopter> I tried looking in system manager, but I see no programs spiking the cpu
[07:33] <garry> ya i open it
[07:33] <sacarlson> garry: it could be as easy as right click in nautilus the dir you want to share
[07:34] <tpmccallum_> I am wanting to create a few database tables and populate them (for studying) I have been doing it manually over and over is there a way to script that in mysql or would you recommend a script using say Python or PHP etc?
[07:34] <adalal> hey, i have a question regarding services that are set to autostart... I have wakeonlan enabled, but that only works if someone logs into the computer after being switched on, and then switched off... I would like the service to start when the computer starts, whether or not someone logs in, any help?
[07:34] <grendal_prime> you will have to have the windows box and the host on the same network..in virtual box you will need to set up a host(only) interface
[07:34] <roccity_> Thopter, can you see anything in system monitor?
[07:35] <JimmyDee> has anyone fiddled with the samba4 in the repos and made it work?
[07:35] <grendal_prime> adalal, look into /etc/rc.local
[07:35] <roccity_> Thopter, does it do it with all html files?
[07:35] <jhattara> are there any GUI programs for ubuntu that are able to synchronize remote and local folders through ftp and/or ssh connection ?
[07:35] <grendal_prime> jhattara, look into rsync
[07:35] <sacarlson>  tpmccallum_:  I'm not sure what kind of data base you are working on.  can you just use a spread sheet like in openoffice?
[07:35] <grendal_prime> grsync
[07:36] <grendal_prime> if you like clicky things grsync
[07:36] <Thopter> roccity_: yes, any html file, I've tried several
[07:37] <KE1HA> roccity_,  Gftp is another option.
[07:37] <KE1HA> but I prefer rsync, it's best for minimal transfer times.
[07:38] <KE1HA> or zsync that's good too.
[07:38] <KE1HA> but those aren't GUO driven.
[07:38] <KE1HA> GUI*
[07:38] <orangey> hello all
[07:38] <Thopter> bah, I'm just gonna reboot and try to remember to never double-click a .html file again
[07:38] <orangey> I'm trying to patch a module
[07:38] <orangey> but I can't get it to compile
[07:39] <orangey> rather, it compiles, but appears not to have consistent version info
[07:39] <chrismed> Hi, is there some way to change global encoding settings? Every text file I open seems to either have similar to "yp", or in nano it has @a^ before every character. Any ideas?
[07:39] <tpmccallum_> a
[07:39] <mrsun> hmm
[07:39] <TimStarling> why is this broken: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/
[07:39] <mrsun> so when is a fix for firefox f***ing up going to come? :/
[07:39] <TimStarling> there is a link from packages.ubuntu.com
[07:39] <mrsun> had same problem for months now
[07:39] <TimStarling> and the search is broken too
[07:41] <mrsun> works fine for a while, then i restart it and it wont start not even in safe mode until i remove the .mozilla folder in ~ ..
[07:41] <grendal_prime> tpmccallum_,  whats up?
[07:41] <adalal> thanks grendal_prime
[07:42] <sacarlson> TimStarling: broken when I look at it too maybe there working on the site
[07:43] <sacarlson> TimStarling: normaly there are miror sites if you just need the packages
[07:44] <tpmccallum_> grendal_prime I am doing a bit of study and am curious about creating database tables on the fly without having to write the mysql commands over and over by hand
[07:45] <grendal_prime> create a loop
[07:45] <grendal_prime> php
[07:45] <grendal_prime> or..just script it in bash
[07:45] <grendal_prime> i would use postgres honestly.
[07:45] <tpmccallum_> ok so mysql cant do that in the mysql console
[07:45] <tpmccallum_> I have never used postgres
[07:46] <hyu> help
[07:46] <jhattara> does grsync just synchronize folders or does it give prompt on what to synchronize ?
[07:46] <grendal_prime> you could...you would just be writing a loop in mysql...some sort of glue language...like..well see thats why i would use postgresql. you can use just about any lang as a procedural lang wit that db server.
[07:47] <sacarlson> tpmccallum_ maybe look at this http://rubylearning.com/blog/2007/05/14/ruby-mysql-tutorial/
[07:47] <grendal_prime> tpmccallum_, it kinda depends on the data as well..i mean..does it need to be randomized?
[07:47] <sacarlson> tpmccallum_ ruby is my scripting tool of choice with all kinds of cool libs
[07:48] <grendal_prime> or...normalized...or
[07:48] <grendal_prime> ruby?
[07:48] <somethinginteres> is there a way to mount any and all HDDs on boot?
[07:49] <grendal_prime> i dont know..kinda new on the scene..Perl..php, bash..they been around a pretty long time...alot of libs for them and..well nice simple lang to.  Python before ruby any day..again thats just personal pref though
[07:49] <grendal_prime> perl...well what can yousay...spend a few months learning it you will never use anything else.
[07:49] <sacarlson> grendal_prime: tpmccallum_ ya ruby is cool but php is cool too.  like you said prime depends on what you need to do
[07:50] <grendal_prime> somethinginteres,  ya look int /etc/fstab
[07:50] <andyis> learn shell script :P
[07:50] <tpmccallum_> awesome thanks all, I already know Python quite well so I might just use that cheers :)
[07:50] <andyis> Also, learn HTML
[07:51] <andyis> It should only take a day if you are familliar with programming languages
[07:51] <sacarlson> andyis: shell scirpt or bash ruby perl php they all work and they all almost look the same.  if you can read one not hard to learn the other
[07:52] <Ember[1]> is there anything i need to do so that autologin doesn't fail when i boot from a ubuntu cd?
[07:52] <andyis> Lol. I'm learning Pascal :P
[07:53] <andyis> Already know a lot of shell script/bash
[07:53] <andyis> And even how to use vim >.<
[07:53] <andyn> erlang (hello mike!)
[07:53] <sacarlson> andyis: does pascal have these cool libs that keep growing?  like ruby or perl?
[07:54] <andyis> It has Skype :P
[07:54] <sacarlson> andyis: so does ruby
[07:54] <sacarlson> andyis: I had ruby sms me
[07:54] <andyis> Also it has better variable security than C++ generally.
[07:55] <tpmccallum_> somethinginters take a look at using labels for your drives also, this helps identify them if they get removed and refitted.  I create labels for external drives and usb sticks etc when I first use them. That way if they are connected they can be mapped to a specific folder by listing them in the /etc/fstab file
[07:55] <sacarlson> andyis: I'm not a bank I don't need securty I leave that to linux for that
[07:55] <robertd> having a problem with screen res ..  have a 24" lcd mon. capable of1920x1080      and can only get full screen at 1680x1050  clips the top and bottom of wall paper
[07:55] <andyis> -.-
[07:55] <andyis> What is "a"+1 then?
[07:55] <robertd> hope I'm in the correct area
[07:55] <andyis> lol you are
[07:56] <robertd> k'
[07:56] <robertd> problem is I only get hdmi sound using ati fglrx driver
[07:56] <andyis> And comparing it to Python, Ruby, PHP, etc isnt really all that great, its far more like C
[07:57] <sacarlson> andyis: I'm too lazy I want it done in one line that's what ruby can do
[07:57] <tensorpudding> Perl can do that too
[07:57] <robertd> tis the loss of sound that drove me that direction
[07:58] <robertd> any thoughts
[07:58] <tensorpudding> You get no guarantees on how readable that line is though
[07:59] <robertd> either it's not a good question  or it's a bad time for  help
[08:00] <somethinginteres> grendal_prime: thanks
[08:00] <sacarlson> robertd: sound like at least you got it working that's more than most can say
[08:01] <robertd> LOL  I guess so    actually the install went rather easy
[08:01] <tpmccallum_> when you guys answer each other do you type the name with a colon or is there a way to reply by clicking etc
[08:01] <robertd> just not the res I want for this editing htpc
[08:02] <vemon> tpmccallum_: in irssi you just type a couple of the first letters of the name and press tab
[08:02] <grendal_prime> somethinginteres, for what?
[08:02] <robertd> used the pop up window asking if I wanted the Propietary driver .. x64 sys
[08:02] <grendal_prime> oh fstab stuff
[08:03] <robertd> and some adjustments
[08:03] <tpmccallum_> vemon: HAHA thanks that works awesome
[08:04] <robertd> guess I'll wait for the 10.8 cat  and just deal with it for now
[08:04] <tpmccallum_> vemon: I am using a firefox plug in called chatzilla but the tab thing also works :)
[08:04] <vemon> tpmccallum_: i guess it's quite a standard way to do it :)
[08:04] <sacarlson> vemon: ya I never knew that cool,  I've been typing the whole thing with the colen, and I've been here for days
[08:04] <robertd> unless there is a clean way to revert to  opne sources ...with sound
[08:05] <robertd> hdmi conncetion
[08:05] <sacarlson> you never stop learning
[08:05] <bj0> is it possible to fix a package on your hdd install from a livecd?
[08:06] <thalal> quit
[08:07] <luftikuss> bj0: Yes.
[08:07] <robertd> oh well    I'll come back when I can parse the question clearer
[08:09] <caddyjoe77> hi all
[08:10] <caddyjoe77> i have some weird behavior going on after the latest firefox on my ubuntustudio 10.04 box
[08:10] <caddyjoe77> it looks like a javascript issue....not positive
[08:10] <caddyjoe77> can someone help?
[08:11] <sacarlson> caddyjoe77:  some site not resolving?
[08:11] <caddyjoe77> no not at all...DNS is workeing great.  When i go to google for instance, the search results get very squished, almost like i may be missing a font package perhaps
[08:12] <caddyjoe77> very strange lemme tell ya
[08:12] <adalal> hey, when i 'shut down' my computer, it restarts... any idea?
[08:13] <caddyjoe77> i went back to the old firefox, same issue...thats why i think its perhaps a font package or maybe javascript is being interpreted wrong
[08:13] <Aemaeth> could you give a screenshot of what you mean?
[08:14] <sacarlson> caddyjoe77: and the http page your are looking at
[08:14] <caddyjoe77> hey adalal...a workaround can possibly be for you to do sudo init 5 in the terminla which is the command to shut down
[08:14] <adalal> caddyjoe77: thanks... any reason as to why this is happening?
[08:14] <federico> ciao
[08:15] <caddyjoe77> sacarlson:  http://www.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-9300639326172081%3Ad9bbzbtli15&ie=UTF-8&sa=Search&q=ubuntu+studio&hl=en
[08:15] <caddyjoe77> doesnt matter which page...any google results look like that
[08:16] <caddyjoe77> i have the error console up...here is the output
<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><title>ubuntu studio - Google Search</title><style id=gstyle>html{overflow-y:scroll}div,td,.n a,.n a:visited{color:#000}.ts td,.tc{padding:0}.ts,.tb{border-collapse:collapse}.ti{display:inline}.ti{display:inline-table}.hd{position:absolute;width:1px;height:1px;top:-1000em;overflow:hidden}.f{color:#000}.flc,a.fl{color:#000}a,.w,.q:visited,.q:active,.q,.
[08:16] <caddyjoe77> b a,.b a:visited{color:#00f}a:visited{color:#639}a:active{color:#00f}.vst:link{color:#551a8b}.t{background:#fff;color:#000;padding:5px 1px}.bb{border-bottom:1px solid #369}.bt{border-top:1px solid #369}.j{width:34em}.h{color:#36cfont-size14px}.i{color:#000}.a{color:green}.z{display:none}div.n{margin-top:20px}.n a,.n .i{font-size:10pt}.n .i,.b a{font-weight:bold}#navbar a{display:block}.std{font-size:82%}.xsm{font-size:67%}#np,#nn
[08:16] <caddyjoe77> ,.nr,#logo span,.ch{cursor:pointer;cursor:hand}.lst{font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:17px;vertical-align:middle}.lsb{font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:15px;height:1.85em;padding:0 8px;vertical-align:middle}.ta{padding:3px 3px 3px 5px}#tpa2,#tpa3,#tpa4{padding-top:9px}#guser{font-size:84%;padding:0 0 4px;text-align:right}a.gb1,a.gb2,a.gb3,.link{color:#00f!important}.sl,.r{display:inline;font-weight:normal;margin:0}.sl{f
[08:16] <caddyjoe77> ont-size:84%}.r{font-size:100%}.e{margin:.75em 0}.sm{display:block;margin:0;margin-left:40px}.slk td{padding-top:5px;padding-left:40px;vertical-align:top;font-size:84%}.slk div{text-indent:-10px;padding-left:10px}.csb,.n div,#logo span,.ss,#rptglbl{background:url(/images/nav_logo4.png) no-repeat;overflow:hidden}.csb,.n div,#logo span{background-position:0 0;height:26px}.n .nr{background-position:-60px 0;width:16px}#np{width:44px}
[08:16] <FloodBot2> caddyjoe77: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:16] <Jigal> can someone tell me where to dwonload 9.10 in stead of 10.04.
[08:16] <tensorpudding> Jigal: Why do you want 9.10 instead of 10.04?
[08:17] <sacarlson> caddyjoe77: look readable maybe font is a bit off.  maybe just <ctl> +  make it biger so you can read it
[08:17]  * prince_jammys hands the annual flood award
[08:17] <Jigal> tensorpudding, because i developed a site under 9.10 it worked perfectly. Now busy 2 weeks in 10.04 can't get it working. I think it might have to do with os. So i want to test that. Thats why I want 9.10
[08:18] <tensorpudding> Jigal: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[08:18] <jhattara> found my synchronize over ssh/ftp tool: Krusader
[08:18] <caddyjoe77> tried that already....its almost like mozilla has decided to quite reading javascript
[08:18] <Jigal> tensorpudding, tnx
[08:18] <tensorpudding> It might that some software your site depends on has a buggy version in 10.04, I suppose.
[08:18] <bj0> luftikuss, how? just chroot?
[08:18] <bj0> is that enough?
[08:19] <tensorpudding> Huh, they still have some really outdated LTS versions there
[08:19] <sacarlson> caddyjoe77:  maybe your sans-serif;font-size:15px  font is bad
[08:19] <tensorpudding> Dapper Drake
[08:19] <caddyjoe77> another interesting tidbit, and why i think its javascript related...is that some javascript type menus are blanked out
[08:20] <caddyjoe77> so i am using chromium for now, as at least the google results are proper
[08:20] <sacarlson> caddyjoe77:  can't you disable java and see if it's different?
[08:20] <caddyjoe77> but the firefox is bugging me...
[08:21] <staar2> ok how to make sure that swamp is used ?
[08:21] <sacarlson> caddyjoe77: try chrome
[08:21] <staar2> i just qparted the swamp section
[08:21] <shayan> How can I install my modem in ubuntu 10.04?
[08:21] <caddyjoe77> do you know what font package sacarlson?
[08:21] <Aemaeth> have you tried backing up your settings/profile in firefox, then complete removal and re-install?
[08:22] <caddyjoe77> im using chromium...thats not the same?
[08:22] <sacarlson> caddyjoe77: the one that has sans-serif in it?
[08:22] <caddyjoe77> hi Aemeuth....yes i have somepletely removed firefox...to include a dpkg -P to purge it....still the same
[08:22] <caddyjoe77> yes sacarlson please
[08:24] <luftikuss> bj0: Usually this is not enough. I rather thought that you deinstall the package and reinstall it.
[08:24] <caddyjoe77> i can try removing the ttf-freefont package
[08:25] <caddyjoe77> and trying again
[08:26] <caddyjoe77> same thing
[08:26] <Aemaeth> is there a way to get curl or wget to scan a page for files within a certain domain while excluding file names of a certain type?
[08:27] <bj0> luftikuss, thats what i want to do, but i can't boot off the harddrive without this package, so i have to boot from a livecd
[08:28] <bj0> if i boot from a livecd, mount my drive, and chroot to that mountpoint, can i fix it there?
[08:29] <sacarlson> caddyjoe77: from what my research shows is that sans-serif font problem is part of qt4.  I guess you can install microsofts fonts to fix it but I can't find the package
[08:30] <caddyjoe77> hmm..well i couldnt find anything so at least you found something :)
[08:30] <caddyjoe77> i will try that
[08:31] <caddyjoe77> brb
[08:31] <rocket161> Hello all
[08:33] <saravan> my movie player is not working properly
[08:33] <saravan> voice is not coming any body help me please
[08:34] <DarsVaeda> can i rename localhost to something else and how?
[08:34] <ikonia> DarsVaeda: you don't change localhost, it's always there
[08:34] <ikonia> DarsVaeda: you can change your machines hostname
[08:34] <caddyjoe77> DarsVaeda:  how so?? you ,ean in your hosts file?
[08:34] <saravan> in my movie player voice is not coming help me some one
[08:34] <ikonia> caddyjoe77: no you don't
[08:34] <ikonia> caddyjoe77: you don't change loclahost
[08:34] <Ameisen> Does anyone here know what hardware virtualbox emulates
[08:34] <caddyjoe77> i wasnt telling him to change localhost
[08:34] <ikonia> Ameisen: x86
[08:34] <caddyjoe77> i was trying to get more info :)
[08:34] <Ameisen> i want to make sure i have hardware support for it enabled in the kernel
[08:35] <Ameisen> that's not hardware
[08:35] <Ameisen> that's a platform.
[08:35] <DarsVaeda> i dont want to change it
[08:35] <sacarlson> caddyjoe77:  I found it ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[08:35] <DarsVaeda> i want to rename it
[08:35] <ikonia> DarsVaeda: you don't rename localhost (renaming it is changing it)
[08:35] <DarsVaeda> http://localhost to http://foobar or something
[08:35] <sacarlson> caddyjoe77:  I already had it installed
[08:35] <ikonia> Ameisen: ask the guys in #vbox then
[08:35] <caddyjoe77> thanks sacarlson....
[08:35] <ikonia> DarsVaeda: ok - so that's the http url
[08:35] <caddyjoe77> lemme try that
[08:36] <ikonia> DarsVaeda: that works by changing your apache config to listen for traffic on a different name/ip mapping rather than the default which is localhost (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[08:36] <DarsVaeda> i guess localhost is just an identifier for 127:0:0:1
[08:36] <ikonia> DarsVaeda: that's right
[08:36] <DarsVaeda> see what i want to do (if possible) change that identifier
[08:36] <Viking667> quick query about openssh - I've got a userprofile (a .ssh directory of keys) that I share amongst multiple machines, and all of those machines can ssh to each other, except seemingly when I'm trying to ssh _to_ the ubuntu machine from another Ubuntu machine.
[08:36] <ikonia> DarsVaeda: however changing <IP_ADDRESS> to be something other than localhost is a very bad idea
[08:36] <DarsVaeda> not the ip or something
[08:36] <adalal> on a command line, how do you insert a value by reading it off a file.. ? as in.. i want to do a wakeonlan <HWAddress>, but the hardware address is located in a file
[08:37] <Viking667> I can't quite explain it, but I would like to know what I need to look at, to work this out.
[08:37] <saravan> i recently installed ubuntu 9.10 i installed almost all packages still im not able to play vedios any one help me
[08:37] <sacarlson> Ameisen:  it seems to mostly emulate the real hardware you have on your system
[08:37] <ikonia> Viking667: ssh -v (or -vv, or -vvv) for more info on the ssh connection
[08:37] <caddyjoe77> that did it sacarlson
[08:37] <KE1HA> -vvv be prepared for allot of info :-)
[08:38] <sacarlson> caddyjoe77: cool ay
[08:38] <caddyjoe77> thanks for finding that package......i had it installed but a purge and add fixed the issue
[08:38] <Aemaeth> saravan, medibuntu?
[08:38] <sacarlson> caddyjoe77:  now stop blaming java
[08:38] <ikonia> Ameisen: ask in #vbox
[08:38] <caddyjoe77> haha i wasnt blaming them :)
[08:38] <sacarlson> Ameisen: or private me
[08:40] <Wingless> When the shell tells me: "The program 'sview' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install slurm-llnl-sview", how does it know what the package name is?  When I type something random like "gobbledeygooksifjsinioanfandkfj", it just says "bash: gobbledeygooksifjsinioanfandkfj: command not found" without telling me how I might go about getting it.
[08:40] <adalal> on a command line, how do you insert a value by reading it off a file.. ? as in.. i want to do a wakeonlan <HWAddress>, but the hardware address is located in a file
[08:40] <maco> Wingless: a very large file that lists all that stuff
[08:40] <ikonia> Wingless: there are cache files
[08:40] <saravan> Aemaeth, i didt get u dear
[08:40] <Wingless> How/when are those cache files update?
[08:40] <Wingless> *updated
[08:40] <Viking667> doesn't seem to accept that the key is valid, and I've no idea why not.
[08:40] <ikonia> Wingless: part of the regular update process
[08:40] <Wingless> I  see
[08:41] <Wingless> thanks
[08:41] <Viking667> I rather feel like regenerating keys all over, and seeing if that makes any significant difference. Somehow I doubt it.
[08:41] <Wingless> so like -- I don't need to open synaptic to confirm that there isn't something else I might be missing related to sview?  bash knows all?
[08:41] <Viking667> apt-cache showpkg sview
[08:41] <Viking667> perhaps?
[08:42] <saravan> Aemaeth, reply dear
[08:42] <Viking667> and no, bash just uses functions (now I've read your question correctly)
[08:42] <Aemaeth> saravan, not sure if ubuntu still requires it, but medibuntu used to have to be in your software sources to run some videos
[08:43] <maco> Wingless: the command-not-found package provides that feature
[08:43] <Viking667> Those functions - one of them has a wee database of commands that ARE in packages, so if your typing results in something that could match but isn't on your system at the moment, it makes an educated guess and suggests the package name
[08:43] <adalal> Aemaeth: it does... depending on the type of videos... or atleast install the restricted packages
[08:43] <Wingless> maco: I think you replied earlier to my question about apt-get vs. synaptic, by the way.  If apt-get and synaptic are not the same program, how do they communicate with one another to let each other know what's being installed or removed?
[08:43] <saravan> Aemaeth, how to install it
[08:44] <maco> Wingless: synaptic is a gui that uses libapt
[08:44] <Aemaeth> google up medibuntu the first link will have better instructions than i could give
[08:44] <sacarlson> saravan: you need to install this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[08:45]  * Viking667 likes synaptic more than adept.
[08:45] <Wingless> and apt-get also uses libapt, then?
[08:45] <sacarlson> medibuntu might still work but it's the old way
[08:45] <hunterm> libapt uses apt-get, AFAIK
[08:46] <Viking667> hunterm: err, you meant that the other way around, I'm sure?
[08:46] <hunterm> yeah :)
[08:46] <hunterm> :P
[08:46] <hunterm> mixed that up ;)
[08:46] <adalal> ... anyone here knows how to insert a value on the commandline by reading off a file? as in.. to enter 'wakeonlan <HWAddr>, whereas the HWAddr is in a text file
[08:46] <saravan> sacarison, what is that dear
[08:46] <maco> adalal: wakeonlan < yourfile
[08:46] <Viking667> #bash describes that
[08:47] <administrator_> login
[08:47] <maco> Wingless: im not sure how libapt and apt-get are implemented, but suffice that they share a database
[08:47] <administrator_> 无聊阿
[08:47] <Viking667> -ENOSUCHUSER
[08:47] <Aemaeth> sacarlson, guess i'm out of the loop
[08:47] <adalal> maco: it shows up as an error :S
[08:47] <Wingless> okay, cool.  thanks :D
[08:48] <sacarlson> Aemaeth: no that still works I think
[08:48] <maco> adalal: is more command going after the HWAddr ?
[08:48] <Aemaeth> anyone know enough about curl or wget to want to help me with something? some kind of setup for constantly scanning a site and downloading files with prerequisites?
[08:48] <adalal> maco: nope
[08:48] <maco> adalal: or is it going at the end of the line?
[08:48] <Viking667> Aemaeth: "constantly"? _how_ constantly?
[08:48] <sacarlson> Aemaeth: I'm just lazy and find easier ways
[08:48] <adalal> maco: end of a line, but i will need to know how to do it in the middle of a line for other commands
[08:49] <Jordan_U> !cn | administrator_
[08:49] <administrator_> 能不说英文么
[08:49] <awanti> hi
[08:49] <adalal> administrator_: this is an english room
[08:49] <sacarlson> adalal: sounds like you want to look at bash to learn to write bash scripts
[08:50] <hunterm> adalal: try this: file=`cat filehere`
[08:50] <maco> adalal: end of a line the < shell redirect should work... for middle you'll need something like:   for i in $(cat file) ; do rm "$i"; done
[08:50] <hunterm> adalal: then, wakeonlan $file
[08:50] <adalal> sacarlson: thanks... i'll look into it, i just wanted it so that i dno't have to remember and or copy the HWAddr all the time...
[08:50] <Aemaeth> Viking667, i'd be happy with a quick mirror
[08:50] <adalal> maco: thanks
[08:50] <maco> adalal: that is, youd need variables
[08:50] <maco> adalal: actually using a for-loop may be ill-advised in umm...lots of situations
[08:50] <Viking667> Aemaeth: As I said, how often do you intend to "mirror"? Daily? Hourly?
[08:50] <Aemaeth> daily
[08:51] <adalal> hunterm: that didn't work... :S
[08:51] <Viking667> Some organisations don't look kindly upon constant prods
[08:51] <Aemaeth> true
[08:51] <adalal> maco: okay.. i'll look into bash scripting i guess
[08:51] <Viking667> adalal: As I said, go check #bash out
[08:51] <Viking667> there's a good FAQ in their /topic
[08:51] <adalal> Viking667: thanks
[08:53] <nick_> hey
[08:53] <nick_> anyone
[08:54] <Aemaeth> but i wouldn't have to hit the same servers twice, there's a program i can already do this with, i just have to run windows in virtualbox, but i'll just research some till i can do in a command line program already installed
[08:54] <Viking667> Aemaeth: hang on. What is it you're trying to do? Mirror a site that doesn't provide a mirroring service?
[08:54] <Aemaeth> is that some violation?
[08:55] <Viking667> Possibly, yeah.
[08:55] <Aemaeth> that seems kinda like saying i couldn't save the pics manually, even though they'd be in my cache if i manually clicked them
[08:55] <Aemaeth> no?
[08:55] <Viking667> Doubtful, but it depends upon the content as to whether the company concerned is going to be bothered by you doing what amounts to a complete copy of their site.
[08:56] <Viking667> that's why "wget" was written to respect robot.txt rules that websites often post.
[08:56] <maco> Aemaeth: the trouble is often that automated crawlers end up sending requests *so quickly* that it ends up looking like an attempted Denial of Service
[08:56] <Viking667> I've been the "mirror a site" route... I make sure I don't do _that_ more than ... ooo, weekly?
[08:57] <ZeroNice> I'm having trouble setting up dual monitors under 9.10 and arch. The monitor with the issue is  a Acer AL1715. It will work but its not detected so i can't configure it.. help
[09:02] <Aemaeth> well, imma read me some words and write me a script and you will rue the day that i enjoyed this conversation with you good sir
[09:05] <tasslehoff> Any way I can get libmpfr.so.4? Can't find a package in the repos giving me it
[09:07] <h4f1> why there is not tor in repos ? how can I install it ?
[09:09] <rww> h4f1: Option 2 of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en
[09:09] <israfel> What is this <Super> key Compiz is using?
[09:09] <rww> israfel: on most keyboards, it's the Windows key
[09:09] <soreau> israfel: The Windows logo key
[09:09] <hunterm> Super = windows key
[09:09] <hunterm> meta = alt or windows
[09:09] <hunterm> usually alt
[09:09] <israfel> Thanks
[09:09] <reggi> hey folks, would someone please show me a link to learn about 'creating a live 'USB' (instead of Live CD)
[09:09] <rww> !usb
[09:10] <h4f1>  rww: Thanks. I did that but I get errors when trying to install " tor: Depends: tsocks but it is not installable"
[09:11] <reggi> thanks rww
[09:11] <jahc> this isnt strictly Ubuntu related, but does anyone know of any good open source and free software for doing payrolls, accounts receivable/payable, inventory tracking, and computerised maintenance management systems? I'm googling like crazy here..
[09:11] <ikonia> jahc: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:12] <jahc> ikonia: yeah I was waiting for an answer like that. :)
[09:13] <ikonia> jahc: then why ask ? if you know the better please is #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:14] <rww> h4f1: tsocks is in Ubuntu's universe repository. If you don't have it enabled already, do System -> Administration -> Software Sources -> check "Community-maintained Open Source software (universe)".
[09:14] <jahc> sorry I thought you were being sarcastic. I've joined now. ta :)
[09:15] <bj0> anyone know how to fix a broken mdadm package (prevents booting)
[09:15] <rww> h4f1: I'm about to leave, so if it's uninstallable for some other reason, someone else may know
[09:15] <h4f1> rww:  Thanks that helped. I disable it some time ago and forgoten
[09:15] <rww> ah, okay, cool
[09:16] <h4f1> rww: thanks again
[09:17] <Take0n> Hello folks. I need help uninstalling and reinstalling vlc. I get errors when trying to upgrade it.. I remove a PPA I used for the latest version but I still can't fix the problem.. when I try to upgrade I get "E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f" so I use apt-get -f upgrade but then I get this: http://pastebin.com/A05paFeP
[09:19] <israfel> Take0n, sudo atp-get remove vlc  not wotking?
[09:19] <Take0n> israfel, no I get the same errors (almost)
[09:19] <Take0n> it still tells me to use -f install
[09:20] <Take0n> but nothing happens..I get the same error then again
[09:21] <ubuntu> hallo
[09:21] <halden> g jdk
[09:21] <halden> ops sorry, wrong keyboard :/
[09:22] <Take0n> I can't install anything or remove anything or upgrade anything :\
[09:22] <Take0n> I tried to fix the broken packages using synaptic but with no luck..
[09:23] <israfel> Take0n, try autoremove It removes all unsed packages.
[09:23] <Joni> I am having problems with my ubuntu install.  I am running it in vmware.  I was showing someone how to use workspaces and we accidently set the number to 36, now i cannot change it back to 4.  Also none of my applications show control buttons
[09:23] <Joni> any help
[09:24] <israfel> You may have a package in the list that's interfering with the install/removal
[09:24] <Take0n> I can't.. I still get the same error
[09:24] <israfel> Take0n, apt-get deselect-upgrades
[09:25] <Joni> it is ubuntu 10.04
[09:25] <Jordan_U> Take0n: What about "sudo apt-get remove libavutil49 "
[09:25] <Take0n> first I get this error when trying to autoremove etc. http://pastebin.com/dTfkZC0D
[09:25] <mathk> hi how do I preserve the color in the find command ? For exemple with the --exec grep .. option
[09:26] <israfel> Jordan_U, I was assuming that file was the upgrade that was selected. If it's installed or now, I'm not sure.
[09:26] <Take0n> israfel, I get E: Invalid operation deselect-upgrades
[09:26] <israfel> Take0n, oops, dselect not deselect
[09:27] <israfel> Take0n, use apt-get --help to see all the commands. You can make better log files this way too.
[09:27] <Take0n> israfel, E: Invalid operation dselect-upgrades
[09:27] <israfel> Take0n, ug, my bad again.. not plural
[09:27] <Joni> does anyone have any clues?
[09:27] <Jordan_U> israfel: What exactly are you hoping that dselect-upgrade (the proper option) will accomplish?
[09:28] <Joni> or ideas about how to troubleshoot this issue?
[09:28] <Take0n> Jordan_U, I get almost same errors as the pastebin paste I did..
[09:28] <Take0n> israfel, it won't work :\
[09:28] <israfel> JOni, so you have 36 workspaces?
[09:28] <Take0n> I just want to get rid of the whole vlc thing and move on... I don't use it anyway :\
[09:28] <Joni> israfel yep, and I cannot change the number back to 4
[09:29] <Jordan_U> Take0n: Do you still get an error about the file /usr/lib/libavutil.so.50 ?
[09:29] <Take0n> Jordan_U, yes
[09:29] <israfel> Jordan_U, He said he tried to do an upgrade first and it failed, so I wanted him to dselect them
[09:29] <jie> 456456456
[09:29] <jie> erter ter tert
[09:29] <Joni> israfel, it is really annoying and there are some other issues as well.  I do no know if they are related.
[09:30] <Jordan_U> israfel: "dselect" is short for debian-select, a utility often used when installing a new system. It has nothing to do with "deselecting" a package. Please don't give advice about commands / topics you don't fully understand.
[09:31] <Joni> I have tried rebooting and running the recovery mode, but vmware tools decides to boot before I can use the menu to use dpkg to fix broken packages.
[09:31] <intgr> Hi, does 10.04 have ext4 "discard"/TRIM support?
[09:31] <israfel> Joni, I think you just need to right-click the workspace switcher on the gnome panel and hit properties.
[09:31] <Joni> israfel, I am
[09:31] <intgr> ISTR somewhere that it should, but I can't find any documentation
[09:32] <shadowfax> hi all
[09:32] <Joni> israfel, I can change it all I want and nothing happens.  and then I lose the ability to change the number all I get is changing rows.
[09:32] <Ameisen> what's the proper binary to make an initd other than mkinitramfs on ubuntu
[09:32] <Take0n> it drives me crazy..
[09:32] <israfel> JOni, make sure you're not on one of those higher workspaces, set it to a lower value and restart the GUI
[09:32] <shadowfax> i can install php5-dev but, i have error: Package php5-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package
[09:33] <shadowfax> i use 10.04
[09:33] <glaucous> I'm having a "problem" while developing a C++ game. CodeBlocks IDE compiles the binary file to one directory, but leaves the image-files in another. How do I run the binary file and set the working directory to another?
[09:33] <glaucous> Obviously it works if I move the image files to the binary.
[09:34] <mingming_> dsakf;a
[09:34] <mingming_> afla;lf
[09:35] <Take0n> how do I clear the /var/cache directory??
[09:35] <Joni> israfel, no good I cannot change the workspace either
[09:35] <Take0n> it's realy really annoying I can't do anything.. :¿
[09:35] <dominicdinada> Take0n: bleachbit
[09:35] <dominicdinada> ?
[09:35] <israfel> glaucous, Is the problem related to that specific IDE? You may need to tweak the settings to have the binaries put in the proper place.
[09:35] <levene> the file /etc/cron.daily/beagle-crawl-system exists on my system, although beagle is not installed. it makes cron send me an error message every day. should I just delete it?
[09:36] <Take0n> dominicdinada, ?
[09:36] <dominicdinada> Take0n: I use bleachbit
[09:36] <glaucous> Not a problem with the IDE specifically. But there should be a way to execute most program and set a specific working directory. israfel
[09:36] <levene> and shouldn't this file have been removed when beagle was removed?
[09:36] <Take0n> dominicdinada, I am not able to install or remove or upgrade anything.. I want a command to try and remove the cache so that I can try again :\
[09:37] <israfel> Joni, The keyboard shortcut to change workspaces is Ctrl+Alt Left/Right cursor.
[09:37] <dominicdinada> !cache | Take0n
[09:38] <Take0n> dominicdinada, didn't get anything (should I?)
[09:38] <israfel> Take0n, So nothing, even unrelated stuff, won't install or remove?
[09:39] <Take0n> israfel, no it keeps telling me to use -f install but when I do so I still get errors about vlc-nox and unmet dependencies etc.
[09:39] <dominicdinada> Take0n: no the bot didnt have anything on cache
[09:39] <dominicdinada> although google would be your answer on that one
[09:39] <littlepenguin> take0n you have activated all repositories?
[09:39] <Take0n> I try to fix broken packages with synaptic but I get a message box that tells me to run apt-get -f install
[09:39] <israfel> Take0n, You may have a corrupted package list. I've seen this problem twice in here.
[09:39] <Take0n> and so on
[09:40] <Take0n> israfel, what do I do in that case?
[09:40] <Take0n> I am about to throw my laptop out the window!!!
[09:40] <dominicdinada> Take0n: haha
[09:40] <israfel> Take0n, let me look up the solution quick.
[09:40] <Take0n> littlepenguin, yes.. I think the problem was caused due to a ppa I had for a new vlc version but I think I had to remove the old vlc before trying to install the new or something
[09:40] <mlk> hello
[09:41] <chadi> when I click on the network manager icon on the top, I get networking disabled; how can I know why?
[09:41] <yao-17> 什么东西?
[09:41] <littlepenguin> maybe take0n you should choose the official repos first
[09:41] <hatake_kakashi> !cn | yao-17
[09:41] <Linuxson26> Take0n, this could be to something not installing correctly, which is why it needs to (f)ix broken installations
[09:41] <littlepenguin> so take0n i would revert changes to sources.list sudo apt-get update and reinstall vlc
[09:41] <Joni> israfel, not working either,  the workspace app is buggered it seems
[09:42] <Take0n> I removed the vlc ppa I added
[09:42] <mlk> I'm having trouble opening a file with less even so I'm in the same group and that file hase rw rights set for the groupe ?
[09:42] <Take0n> I did an update
[09:42] <Take0n> but still errors
[09:42] <dominicdinada> !aptitude | Take0n
[09:43] <israfel> JOni, you don't have Compiz installed do you?
[09:43] <Jordan_U> Take0n: Try "sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -r vlc vlc-nox vlc-plugin-pulse"
[09:44] <Flynsarmy> When copying a specific file i get "error splicing file: input/output error". Any ideas how I can fix this? How would I run a disk check/repair utility?
[09:46] <Ameisen> nope. Kernel won't start.
[09:46] <Ameisen> just recompiled
[09:46] <soreau> ! fsck | Flynsarmy
[09:46] <yao-17> 哈哈
[09:46] <Ameisen> "Gave up waiting for root device"
[09:47] <Take0n> Jordan_U, it did remove!! but I still get an error about libavutil50 when I try to upgrade. should I use the same command to remove that as well?
[09:48] <israfel> JOni, how do you know you have 36 workspaces? Is it just the panel app showing that many squares?
[09:48] <cyphase> Flynsarmy, there's also a file to create the checks on next boot. hold on, let me find it
[09:49] <cyphase> Flynsarmy, /forcefsck
[09:50] <Take0n> Jordan_U, now I get this error http://pastebin.com/d1f77xqP
[09:50] <Jordan_U> Take0n: Yes, but you may need to also remove the dependencies of libavutil50 first. Try "sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -r libavutil50" and if it fails I'll tell you how to find its dependencies.
[09:50] <Joni> israfel, yes I have copmiz installed and the workspace switcher app says 36 workspaces,  If I turn on show workspace names it shows all 36 names and yes there are that many squares in the panel.
[09:50] <Take0n> it's ignoring it cause it's not installed
[09:51] <israfel> JOni, COmpiz has a setting to set the number of workspaces.
[09:52] <Take0n> there are many apps I use like mpd and mplayer that depends on libavutil49 I don't want to remove them.. how can I stop the 50 from trying to upgrade it?
[09:53] <israfel> ccms -> General Options -> Desktop Size (tab) -> Horizontal Virtual Size
[09:53] <Jordan_U> Take0n: You probably need to downgrade all of the packages from that ppa to their normal versions so that nothing is depending on 50 and trying to bring it in. The easiest way to do that is with the "ppa-purge" script.
[09:54] <Take0n> but which ppa is it?
[09:54] <israfel> JOni, err ccsm
[09:54] <Take0n> I did upgrade-purge to the vlc ppa
[09:54] <Take0n> but it didn't solve the problem as far as I can see
[09:54] <brandon420> heyy
[09:55] <brandon420> you guys think i can watch HD on my computer? 2.6ghz 1 gb ram, 512 nvidia 8400gs
[09:55] <abhijit> hello!!!!
[09:55] <abhijit> :)
[09:55] <brandon420> hi
[09:55] <israfel> brandon420, depends on a lot of factors, try it.
[09:55] <N3VV3K> brandon420 first off blaze it up bro and second yes
[09:56] <N3VV3K> well depending on your monitor
[09:56] <Jordan_U> Take0n: You can download the ppa-purge script from here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/ppa-purge/ubuntu/download/head%3A/ppapurge-20090729132438-jayqxaeub1gf2z3t-3/ppa-purge
[09:56] <brandon420> haha, i have a old ass monitor. but when i try to play 720p it skips, and then gets out of sync
[09:57] <Take0n> Jordan_U, I have it already the problem is how do I locate the right ppa and how do I get it's name?
[09:57] <N3VV3K> does your computer have hdmi out
[09:57] <Babcia> hello
[09:57] <N3VV3K> does anyone use ubuntu tweak
[09:57] <N3VV3K> and is computer janitor safe
[09:57] <Jordan_U> Take0n: What ppas have you added?
[09:57] <abhijit> N3VV3K, yes
[09:57] <brandon420> nope, i have dvi and vga
[09:57] <Babcia> what da fu...
[09:57] <Babcia> hello geys
[09:58] <Babcia> o lol
[09:58] <brandon420> howdy
[09:58] <littlepenguin> babcia hei just give us youer question
[09:58] <N3VV3K> someone said computer janitor sucks use ubuntu tweak which i do
[09:58] <dominicdinada> !language | babcia
[09:58] <Take0n> Jordan_U, a bunch ;p
[09:58] <Take0n> I usually get them from webupd8 or omg ubuntu
[09:59] <brandon420> n3vv3k, so without a hdmi i cant watch hd? i would just like to be able to watch hdtv rips
[09:59] <Joni> urg I can't figure it out,  I think I am just going to reinstall.
[09:59] <israfel> Joni, what did COmpiz show for that value?
[09:59] <N3VV3K> no i dont think thats true
[10:00] <N3VV3K> i was just curious
[10:00] <Joni> 36
[10:00] <israfel> Joni, and it wouldn't change?
[10:00] <littlepenguin> take0n https://launchpad.net/vlc
[10:00] <Joni> nope
[10:00] <israfel> Joni, you tried restarting and changing it?
[10:00] <Jordan_U> Take0n: What is the output of "aptitude why libavutil50"?
[10:01] <Joni> yep
[10:01] <test999> sdf
[10:01] <test999> hi all
[10:01] <Take0n> Jordan_U,
[10:01] <Take0n> iB  mpd           Depends libavformat52 (>= 4:0.5.1-1) | libavformat-extra-52 (>= 4:0.5.1-1)
[10:01] <Take0n> B A libavformat52 Depends libavutil50 (< 4:0.6-99) | libavutil-extra-50 (< 4:0.6-99)
[10:01] <test999> how to recover password in IRC?
[10:02] <Raptors> Hey guys, is there a repo for ubuntu that has the latest kernel?
[10:02] <N3VV3K> pokemans pokes men
[10:02] <Jordan_U> test999: Ask in #freenode
[10:02] <test999> N3VV3K it is for me?
[10:02] <N3VV3K> what is
[10:02] <reggi> hey everyone: has anyone here successfully shared a Mobile Internet (Vodafone 3G) connection to a network?
[10:02] <littlepenguin> yes reggi
[10:03] <littlepenguin> i use a hsdpa stick
[10:03] <littlepenguin> and it works really fine
[10:03] <Take0n> I did when I was in greece until yesterday
[10:03] <Jordan_U> Raptors: Almost: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[10:03] <Take0n> used a usb stick from vodafone.. "vodafone on demand"
[10:03] <brandon420> so since im here, what else can i do to my desktop?    http://uppix.net/8/9/e/a39f4c2939106086329845413d276.png        http://uppix.net/c/f/5/2f2b2ecd09ca3dd5444d625c8c72e.png
[10:04] <N3VV3K> haha what more do u need
[10:04] <N3VV3K> brandon420
[10:04] <littlepenguin> brandon you have compiz pugins extras with screensaver??
[10:05] <brandon420> ?
[10:05] <Jordan_U> Take0n: Can you pastebint the output of "apt-cache show mpd"?
[10:05] <blackgraz> nice nick
[10:05] <littlepenguin> you can do the moving of the desktop as a screensaver
[10:05] <brandon420> i guess not, cause i dont know what you are talking about
[10:05] <Jordan_U> Take0n: Sorry, "apt-cache policy mpd"
[10:05] <brandon420> oh noes
[10:05] <brandon420> tells me how!
[10:05] <Take0n> Jordan_U, apt-cache policy mpd
[10:05] <littlepenguin> ok brandon 1 mom
[10:05] <Take0n> ooh sorry
[10:05] <Take0n> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/PQusQVBm
[10:05] <JUON> hello??
[10:06] <littlepenguin> brandon get compiz config settings packet
[10:06] <israfel> JUON hello
[10:06] <abhijit> !hi | JUON
[10:06] <littlepenguin> brandon also compiz fusion plugins extra
[10:06] <JUON> ubottu:tanks
[10:06] <brandon420> hmms
[10:06] <littlepenguin> after that go under system settings compiz config and check for screensaver plugin :D
[10:07] <brandon420> i effed something up
[10:07] <brandon420> lol
[10:07] <N3VV3K> what?
[10:07] <littlepenguin> effed?
[10:07] <brandon420> E: Malformed line 53 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[10:07] <brandon420> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[10:07] <brandon420> sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:07] <brandon420> grrr
[10:07] <littlepenguin> uh..brandon have you killed your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[10:08] <Kwpolska> brandon420: fix line 53 in sources.list [solved]
[10:08] <JUON> is this room talk about the ubuntu??
[10:08] <littlepenguin> yes yuon
[10:08] <littlepenguin> j
[10:08] <littlepenguin> sry
[10:08] <JUON> my english ok??
[10:08] <littlepenguin> yes
[10:08] <Kwpolska> JUON: a bit wrong, but acceptable.
[10:08] <Take0n> Jordan_U, I can't ven remove mpd.. I get the dependencies error :\ I really am about to throw it out the window
[10:08] <N3VV3K> brandon420 mine is based off this and looks grat
[10:09] <JUON> i live in the korea
[10:09] <Kwpolska> Take0n: you're in dependency hell
[10:09] <littlepenguin> takeon maybe you should buy a windows 7 os :P
[10:09] <immux> lcd monitor flicker on dual screen with lucid. need help
[10:09] <brandon420> Kwpolska, i dont see anything wrong with it.
[10:09] <N3VV3K> http://www.free-download-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/overglossed.jpg
[10:09] <Jordan_U> Take0n: And the output of "apt-cache policy libavformat52"?
[10:09] <N3VV3K> i think u should have more style if you want  flashy desktop
[10:10] <Take0n> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/7muQs5g1
[10:10] <brandon420> n3vv3k, first off, you have a weird name to type. lol. and what is that desklet to the right?
[10:11] <N3VV3K> its called conky
[10:11] <Kwpolska> !tab | brandon420
[10:11] <Kwpolska> it's not a desklet
[10:11] <Kwpolska> it's the conky
[10:11] <Kwpolska> you need to configure it yourself
[10:11] <Jordan_U> Take0n: sudo ppa-purge ppa:siretart/ppa
[10:12] <brandon420> Kwpolska, thanks man
[10:12] <N3VV3K> i have dual monitor how can i have two seperate backgrounds
[10:12] <littlepenguin> brandon AWN a mac taskbar
[10:12] <brandon420> littlepenguin,  i actually like this one, its wicked cool.
[10:13] <Take0n> Jordan_U, I am affraid it didn't solve the problem :\ it did a lot of things but Warning:  Something went wrong, packages may not have been reverted
[10:13] <Jordan_U> Take0n: Can you pastebin the full output?
[10:13] <Take0n>  trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/i686/cmov/libavutil.so.50', which is also in package libavutil49 4:0.5.1-1ubuntu1+svn20100402-1~webupd8~lucid4
[10:13] <brandon420> i have to figure out what is wrong with this source list...
[10:14] <brandon420> i dont see the error.
[10:14] <Nubulis_Maximus> Hello, I'm trying to copy a directory from my home folder to the file system usr/share directory and every option I try results in a no such file or directory. plz help
[10:14] <Kwpolska> brandon420: show us
[10:15] <N3VV3K> brandon420 i got rid of my dock bar entirely and started to use gnome do i think its just alot cooler
[10:15] <Kwpolska> Nubulis_Maximus: sudo cp -rf /home/user/the/interesting/directory /usr/share
[10:15] <Take0n> Jordan_U, do u have teamviewer?
[10:16] <Kwpolska> use tab for autocompletion
[10:16] <Nubulis_Maximus> I'm a bit of a newbie to linux, don't know if I'm using proper syntax
[10:16] <Jordan_U> Take0n: No.
[10:16] <ximal> Q : Is there a way to run programs such as deluge thru the cli or as a process that way on my server I can just set it up for remote web viewing etc ?
[10:16] <Kwpolska> Nubulis_Maximus: see what I said
[10:16] <Nubulis_Maximus> Kwpolska: will try that
[10:16] <Kwpolska> Take0n: what's your problem?
[10:16] <Take0n> Jordan_U, u could use it to connect to my computer
[10:16] <brandon420>       :x is to save and quit right?
[10:17] <Kwpolska> Take0n:can I take care for it?
[10:17] <Kwpolska> brandon420: yes, :wq works also
[10:17] <reggi> would someone please point me to resource/info to learn how to share a mobile internet (vodafone 3G) connection similar to ICS on Windows platform? Thanks.
[10:17] <marko> how do i add network manager in awn window manger?
[10:17] <Take0n> Kwpolska, I am not able to install/remove/upgrade anything due to dependencies and broken packages but I can't solvei t
[10:17] <brandon420> Kwpolska,  are you a effin bot? you are wicked helpful
[10:17] <littlepenguin> reggi so your connection is working?
[10:17] <Kwpolska> brandon420: i am NOT a bot
[10:18] <reggi> littlepenguin, my vodafone connection works brilliantly on my laptop
[10:18] <reggi> which runs ubuntu 10.04
[10:18] <brandon420> Kwpolska,  well thanks for all the help you are giving us noobs
[10:18] <N3VV3K> kwpolska since your so helpfull i have dual monitor how can i have two seperate backgrounds
[10:18] <Kwpolska> brandon420: just shut up.
[10:18] <brandon420> =p
[10:18] <reggi> but I want to share that connection to a switch using the lan0 port on my laptop.
[10:18] <Kwpolska> N3VV3K: I'm not sure if ti's possible in gnome
[10:18] <brandon420> haha
[10:18] <Kwpolska> Take0n: see my message
[10:18] <N3VV3K> damnit
[10:19] <reggi> littlepenguin, i can do it easily on my vista machine using ICS but i don't know how to do it on ubuntu yet. cheers.
[10:19] <littlepenguin> reggi did you set the routing?
[10:19] <Nubulis_Maximus> Kwpolska: not having any luck with that
[10:19] <littlepenguin> reggi saw this guide?http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/ICS
[10:19] <Nubulis_Maximus> Kwpolska: used command      sudo cp -rf /home/sleeve/aeon  /usr/share
[10:20] <reggi> littlepenguin, i'll have a look at that website now, I had only tried to use Firestarter to share the connection but I'm not sure what I'm doing...
[10:20] <reggi> littlepenguin, let me take a peek at that link you sent
[10:20] <littlepenguin> sry reggi its in german..
[10:20] <littlepenguin> maybe ill find it in english
[10:20] <reggi> ok thanks littlepenguin
[10:21] <brandon420> http://uppix.net/5/d/8/799af2955cc8debfd59b7502da31b.png
[10:21] <littlepenguin> @reggi this one should do it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing?action=show&redirect=InternetConnectionSharing
[10:21] <brandon420> check that out, or shall i pastebin it?
[10:21] <reggi> thanks littlepenguin i'll look at it now.
[10:22] <Nubulis_Maximus> is there a way to copy directories using gui instead of sudo cp -r
[10:22] <littlepenguin> np reggi
[10:22] <littlepenguin> nubulis in nautilus rightclick copy?
[10:22] <hatake_kakashi> Nubulis_Maximus, you'll have to run gksu nautilus I think
[10:23] <littlepenguin> but be carefull with gksu nautilus..
[10:23] <Nubulis_Maximus> hatake_kakashi: will give it a go
[10:23] <hatake_kakashi> you can't paste whatever you want into directories owned by root in which this case /usr is owned by root
[10:24] <brandon420> Kwpolska, heyy, can you take a look at my source list?
[10:25] <Nubulis_Maximus> hatake_kakashi: that's the problem I'm having, I'm trying to copy dir to /usr using sudo cp -r, but I don't know if I'm getting the sytax correct as I'm not too proficient with linux command lines
[10:26] <saganbyte> Hello :) I m looking for a substitute for MS Visio, I ve tried dia, i d rather have a gnome based application. Any suggestions?
[10:26] <hatake_kakashi> Nubulis_Maximus, with cp -r if it comes back with nothing apart from prompt it means there were no errors during the process, otherwise you would have seen errors on the screen before it brings you back to the prompt
[10:27] <Nubulis_Maximus> hatake_kakashi: keep getting no such file or directory  error
[10:27] <hatake_kakashi> Nubulis_Maximus, otherwise you can simply do cp -rv (note the v for verbose, which will dump its current actions onto the screen regardless if there's an error or its informational)
[10:27] <littlepenguin> @saganbyte http://linuxappfinder.com/alternatives?search_text=visual
[10:27] <saganbyte> littlepenguin, thanks :)
[10:27] <hatake_kakashi> Nubulis_Maximus, with that command you posted earlier? it sounds like you may have invalid source path.. which means your home directory
[10:28] <Nubulis_Maximus> hatake_kakashi: i know that the files-directories are there so not sure what it is
[10:28] <littlepenguin> fk saganbyte i have read wrong..visio u need??!!
[10:28] <littlepenguin> @saganbyte http://linuxappfinder.com/alternatives?search_text=visio
[10:28] <almoxarife> Nubulis_Maximus: there is a pckg called nautilus-gksu , it makes opening folder/dir/files as root from nautilus, I also don't use the terminal method or figure I need to if can get away it it
[10:29] <littlepenguin> so lunchtime...
[10:29] <hatake_kakashi> Nubulis_Maximus, I'd check to see if the source files/directories are correct by simply doing ls -l /home/sleeve/aeon for example
[10:30] <Nubulis_Maximus> almoxarife: I just downloaded nautilus-gksu from synaptic, where will I find it to browse files
[10:31] <ListedasWanted> How do i run a .sh file?
[10:31] <almoxarife> Nubulis_Maximus: I think you need to log out once then back in to see it as a option on nautilus
[10:31] <hatake_kakashi> ListedasWanted, first you have to make it an executable via chmod u+x and then you run it via appending period and forward slash like ./foo.sh
[10:32] <hatake_kakashi> well err make it so that you have execute permissions
[10:32] <Nubulis_Maximus> almoxarife: thx will try that
[10:32] <lelle> how to give my wireless connection a ip? only the cable has one
[10:33] <almoxarife> ListedasWanted: or you could highlight it in nautilus right click and under properties click on 'run as executable', but that might not be as much fun
[10:33] <hatake_kakashi> lelle, run dhclient, not a good idea if you already have a gateway set
[10:33] <lelle> hatake_kakashi:  ive done it but it wont give me
[10:34] <ListedasWanted> lol i see what you mean
[10:34] <ListedasWanted> hmm ill see what i can do
[10:34] <hatake_kakashi> lelle, try using wireless only and see if that works
[10:34] <Kwpolska> brandon420: what's your prob
[10:34] <ServerTech> Any software for ubuntu to monitor CPU temperatures?
[10:34] <bullgard> Is there no longer a man page for the Disk Mounter applet?
[10:35] <hatake_kakashi> ListedasWanted, its easy with command line.. with gui I think you need to right click on the file and click on properties, and you change the permissions
[10:35] <brandon420> Kwpolska,  i fixed it, lol, thanks.
[10:35] <hatake_kakashi> ServerTech, gkrellm, superkaramba, conky, etc
[10:35] <hatake_kakashi> ServerTech, err lmsensors package
[10:36] <garry> file sharing on ubuntu 10.04 and windows using samba
[10:36] <N3VV3K> hey guys i have dual monitors is there anyway i can maualy resize the aspect ratio cause its off by like a centimeter on each side
[10:36] <N3VV3K> hey guys i have dual monitors is there anyway i can maualy resize the aspect ratio cause its off by like a centimeter on each side of one monitor
[10:36] <ServerTech> thx
[10:36] <bastones> Hi. I'm installing PHP-GTK from source and I need the cairo php extension, how do I get and install this please? Thanks.
[10:36] <hatake_kakashi> ServerTech, no worries
[10:36] <almoxarife> is a centimeter a lot?
[10:37] <almoxarife> :)
[10:37] <cecca> Hi all! I need help to configure my tablet hptx2... I can pay for a complete solution. If you are interested contact me:)
[10:37] <Callum__> N3VV3K: Whatvideo card?
[10:37] <marko> are there any problems withc watching movies on Quadro FX 1600M in ubuntu 10.04
[10:37] <hatake_kakashi> marko, try
[10:37] <N3VV3K> nvidia
[10:38] <lelle_> i do ifconfig and i get eth1 eth2 AND eth2:avahi which has an ip address, so thats the ip address for eth2 then?
[10:38] <N3VV3K> im looking into the xserver settings
[10:38] <Diverdude> Hello. I need a small easy tool to create timeplans. Any ideas if such a tool exists?
[10:38] <lelle_> because eth2 doesnt have any
[10:38] <marko> hatake_kakashi, i did try and i got blury movies, or as i can say, you can see that when the whole picture changes i can see lines...
[10:38] <hatake_kakashi> lelle_, wait, why are you using avahi?
[10:38] <Callum__> marko: depends, standard definition and below the CPU is usually fast enough to run it at full speed, but any high quality HD video will need to be hardware accelerated and I'm not sure about support for the Quadro
[10:38] <N3VV3K> but i cant seem to get it right i have 1 hp 24 inch monitor and one 32 inch lcd with hdmi
[10:38] <lelle_> diverdude try osmo
[10:38] <garry> file sharing on ubuntu 10.04 and windows using samba
[10:38] <N3VV3K> the lcd is whats giving me trouble the monitor is fine
[10:39] <marko> Callum__, hm, so i cannot watch 720p or higher movies
[10:39] <hatake_kakashi> marko, well its an issue with driver then :)
[10:39] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi dont know, its just there :(
[10:39] <Callum__> marko: you can, but it might not be the fastest unless your graphics card is being utilised
[10:39] <BusMaster> i have a server with several virtual machines running on it. Each VM hosts a website, and all the websites have a common ip (that of the host). How should I setup routing in teh host so that a.com goes to VM1 and b.com goes to VM2 ?
[10:39] <hatake_kakashi> lelle_, pastebin me your iwconfig output
[10:39] <Diverdude> lelle_, url?
[10:40] <lelle_> diverdude "the ubuntu software center"
[10:40] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi:  dont you mean ifconfig?
[10:40] <N3VV3K> ok should i change the panning
[10:40] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi:  ill do both..
[10:40] <hatake_kakashi> lelle_, no I meant iwconfig, its for wireless
[10:40] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi: http://pastebin.com/HxfzCmXm
[10:41] <Diverdude> lelle_, no not such a time planner....One where i can allocate e.g. 2 weeks for project a, 3 for project b and c runs meanwhile
[10:41] <Diverdude> lelle_, a gantt chart
[10:41] <marko> Callum__, it looks like it is problem with drivers, because i cannot play 1080p movies
[10:41] <Diverdude> lelle_, ahh yes here it is:http://www.ganttproject.biz/
[10:41] <hatake_kakashi> marko, you'll need the ati's proprietary driver
[10:42] <lelle_> diverdude or this,  http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/10.04/?q=osmo could be safer
[10:42] <hatake_kakashi> !ati | marko
[10:42] <marko> hatake_kakashi, i cannot use ati on NVIDIA
[10:42] <ServerTech> Can you help me in installing gkrellm
[10:42] <hatake_kakashi> marko, correction nvidia, got confused :) that wiki page describes almost all
[10:42] <ServerTech> ..
[10:43] <ServerTech> Can some
[10:43] <marko> hatake_kakashi, it looks lie even divx movies are not playing good
[10:43] <hatake_kakashi> lelle_, weird, so eth2 is wireless, and avahi creates another interface.. which would most likely be virtual interface..
[10:43] <marko> :S
[10:43] <jil> hello
[10:43] <ServerTech> hello
[10:43] <ServerTech> Can you help me install gkrellm??
[10:44] <hatake_kakashi> ServerTech, have you tried seeking HOWTO on setting it up?
[10:44] <cecca> Hi all! I need help to configure my tablet hptx2... I can pay for a complete solution. If you are interested contact me:)
[10:44] <ServerTech> .... no
[10:44] <jil> For what reason could I not be able to reade a file with the following right ----rwx--- 1 jil jil even so I'm in the jil group ?
[10:44] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi: you tell me...
[10:44] <hatake_kakashi> ServerTech, I'd do that first
[10:44] <ZoZo-> If Im only after Ati Catalyst for declocking/powerplay should I only use the proprietary drivers?
[10:44] <N3VV3K> it sucks i cant change panning and when i maximize the edges are cutoff
[10:44] <Diverdude> lelle_, no thats not a gantt chart
[10:44] <ServerTech> i want to know how to install it in ubuntu
[10:44] <ServerTech> through termina;
[10:44] <ServerTech> terminal
[10:44] <marko> hatake_kakashi, so, do yo know, what are best drivers for  Quadro FX 1600M. open source or propriatery drivers?
[10:45] <ServerTech> tar file it is
[10:45] <cozziemoto> ServerTech,   sudo apt-get install gkrellm
[10:45] <lelle_> diverdude hmmm but its a planner..
[10:45] <ServerTech> ok
[10:45] <hatake_kakashi> lelle_, for me I'd personally kill and disable avahi-daemon as that would be one that's making un-necessary interfaces.. once that's successfully killed I'd try and redo ifconfig
[10:45] <cozziemoto> ServerTech,  but i would open synaptic package manager and hit Search and type in gkrellm  to see if other packages or plugins etc  are available as well
[10:46] <Diverdude> lelle_, has to be a gantt chart
[10:46] <ServerTech> thx its working
[10:46] <hatake_kakashi> marko, its almost always the proprietary drivers seem to function better than open drivers
[10:46] <lelle_> diverdude try google ubuntu + gannt chart im sure youll find it
[10:46] <cozziemoto> hatake_kakashi,  for nvidia?
[10:46] <hatake_kakashi> cozziemoto, yes but marko is the one having the issues
[10:46] <cozziemoto> hatake_kakashi,   oh ok
[10:46] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi: avahi-daemon : no process found
[10:47] <hatake_kakashi> lelle_,  they run under the process name avahi
[10:47] <Diverdude> lelle_, ganttproject is perfect
[10:47] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi: same there
[10:48] <cozziemoto> marko,  I dont think it is going to be easy to install the proprietary from nvidia onto lucid or maverick... this is a mistake for sure by ubuntu  but they have not allowed this to be done at least easily
[10:48] <hatake_kakashi> lelle_, no process? hmm what about /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon status ?
[10:48] <cozziemoto> marco  however the nvidia_current driver is "fairly"  decent  but by no means the better of the ones available
[10:48] <chadi_> when I click on the network manager icon on the top, I get networking disabled; why?
[10:48] <bullgard> Is there no longer a man page for the Disk Mounter applet?
[10:49] <hatake_kakashi> chadi_, probably some other daemon/process is interfering, right click on the same icon and click on enable networking
[10:49] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi: it says it has been invoked an upstart(8) job
[10:49] <lelle_> (8) shouldnt be there hi
[10:49] <hatake_kakashi> lelle_, hmm, which version is this?
[10:49] <lelle_> hihi
[10:49] <bullgard> chadi_: To find out why please have a look in your error logs: /var/log/...
[10:50] <chadi_> hatake_kakashi: thank you very much! forgot that I can right click..
[10:50] <garry> how to share file using samba
[10:50] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi:  no clu
[10:50] <lelle_> e
[10:50] <ikonia> !samba | garry
[10:50] <hatake_kakashi> lelle_, I meant which version of ubuntu you have?
[10:50] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi: 10.04
[10:50] <bullgard> !samba | garry
[10:51] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi: 32 bit etc
[10:51] <hatake_kakashi> lelle_, ahh hmm :/ pastebin me your sudo lsof| grep upstart output
[10:51] <garry> how can i share file on windows in my virualbox using samba
[10:51] <lunavorax> Hello everybody !
[10:51] <chadi_> bullgard: thank you :) will do
[10:52] <almoxarife> garry: which is virtual?
[10:52] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi: http://pastebin.com/DZdwVi1J
[10:52] <lunavorax> I forgot how to use the "find" command to search for a file on ubuntu server
[10:52] <hatake_kakashi> lelle_, "sudo lsof| grep upstart" (without quotes)
[10:53] <Kwpolska> lunavorax: use google to find it
[10:53] <Jigal> hello i have installed an iso of 9.10 server. How can i get an visual layer on top of it?
[10:53] <hatake_kakashi> lunavorax, find $PWD -name "foo"
[10:53] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi: http://pastebin.com/RjPWykpg
[10:53] <ikonia> Jigal: install the ubuntu-desktop package, if you want a desktop though you may be better using the desktop package
[10:53] <lunavorax> thanks hatake_kakashi i'm going to try right now
[10:53] <Jigal> ikonia, ok i will uninstall my server
[10:53] <garry> my windows isin vbox
[10:54] <lunavorax> hum hatake_kakashi that's what i've found yesterday on google and it actually doesn't work
[10:55] <lelle_> garry then you wont need samba, virtualbox can handle that automatically, dont know how to set it up tho, but its in virtualbox manual
[10:55] <hatake_kakashi> lunavorax, what exactly is the filename?
[10:55] <lunavorax> i know it's called "papersheet"
[10:55] <N3VV3K> everytime i try to burn a blank dvd (havent tried a blank cd) in brasero my drive bay ejects before it even starts writin
[10:55] <almoxarife> garry: you want which, ubuntu to see windows or the other or both?
[10:56] <sweb> how can i run a command at startup with root access ?
[10:56] <hatake_kakashi> lunavorax, you can try find / -name *papersheet*
[10:56] <lelle_> N3VV3K: thats what happens when i have wrong side down.. maybe your burner cant handle dvd, lol?
[10:56] <lunavorax> That's it ! Thank you again hatake_kakashi
[10:56] <Lazy^> Heya, does anyone know which python-packages (or packages) include these: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/basemap/0.9.5 and http://www.pyngl.ucar.edu/Nio.shtml
[10:57] <N3VV3K> nope Bug #578910 i think this is the problem
[10:57] <hatake_kakashi> lelle_, hmm I got different output on mine, I'm on older version compared to yours (9.04) I dunno if you want to try experimenting you can stop the upstart service.. otherwise I'd check the forums to see if it helps
[10:57] <sweb> any body here ?
[10:57] <hatake_kakashi> !anybody| sweb
[10:58] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi: how to stop the upstart?
[10:58] <hatake_kakashi> lelle_, sudo /etc/init.d/upstart stop
[10:58] <hatake_kakashi> lunavorax, no worries
[10:59] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi: i went haxxor and opened that file in gedit, its empty
[11:00] <hatake_kakashi> lelle_, weird, so its started by upstart which is empty and there's no avahi processes to kill.. it might be labelled as upstart.. check via ps aux instead
[11:00] <yong> have any body here?
[11:01] <hatake_kakashi> !anybody | yang
[11:01] <hatake_kakashi> lol whoops
[11:01] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi: heres one of the two avahis..: root      2247  0.0  0.0   1808   392 ?        Ss   11:35   0:00 avahi-autoipd: [eth2] callout dispatcher
[11:02] <N3VV3K> why is there no support oon the support channel
[11:02] <garry> or both
[11:02] <hatake_kakashi> lelle_, so the process name would be labelled as avahi-autoipd.. hmm wonder if you can just issue killall with wildmask
[11:03] <hatake_kakashi> N3VV3K, not every one has a solution to every possible problems one may encounter.. for everything else there's always ubuntu forums or google
[11:03] <domen> i have a ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000]  graphic card. what drivers do i need to install for ubuntu 10.04?
[11:03] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi: i did sudo killall avahi and pressed tab and got avahi-autoipd and it worked i guess
[11:03] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi: brb gotta do nr 2..
[11:03] <hatake_kakashi> lelle_, they may reappear...
[11:04] <garry> i want to see both machine
[11:04] <hatake_kakashi> garry, your issue is more of networking related, it depends on how the guest OS is setup, maybe best idea is to have windows going through as bridged rather than NAT or host-only
[11:05] <randyrkelly> hello
[11:06] <randyrkelly> quick question i type su in terminal and type my pass but says fail an help
[11:06] <hatake_kakashi> randyrkelly, try sudo -i instead
[11:06] <randyrkelly> ok
[11:07] <randyrkelly> should it change to #?
[11:07] <hatake_kakashi> N3VV3K, and no I don't have an ideal solution for your issue, I'd say the best idea is to hack the xorg.conf file.. first you need to generate one and then afterwards read up various xorg docs on how to adjust it according to your tastes
[11:07] <BlackDalek> How do I turn on the on screen keyboard in Ubuntu?
[11:08] <hatake_kakashi> randyrkelly, it changes to # by default to indicate that you're logged in as root
[11:08] <randyrkelly> well mine shos $
[11:08] <hatake_kakashi> randyrkelly, after "sudo -i" (without quotes)?
[11:08] <ddvlad> hi, i'm trying to use sysv-rc-conf to stop cups in runlevel 3 and it doesn't work. cups still runs after i telinit 3. what am i missing?
[11:09] <almoxarife> what is avail to monitor incoming traffic to my machine, I don't want to firewall it so much as just have something giving me realtime the ip/port of the incoming, gui would be nice too
[11:09] <randyrkelly> sweet that worked thanks im a noob to ubuntu
[11:09] <hatake_kakashi> almoxarife, don't know of GUI but there's ncurses based which looks somewhat like GUI but runs on console.. its called iptraf
[11:10] <hatake_kakashi> randyrkelly, no worries, btw we all had to start from somewhere :)
[11:10] <almoxarife> hatake_kakashi: thnks
[11:10] <hatake_kakashi> almoxarife, no worries
[11:11] <ximal> Q : Is there a way to run programs such as deluge thru the cli or as a process that way on my server I can just set it up for remote web viewing etc ? kindof to run it like a background process but no gui presence .. only cli .
[11:11] <dmainou> Hi guys, we are setting a small business. My team wants to use microsoft outlook and all its features. Do you know if we can use an ubuntu mail server and provide full outlook functionlity?
[11:11] <randyrkelly> true hat
[11:12] <randyrkelly> were should i start to learn how to compile using ubuntu?
[11:12] <hatake_kakashi> !compile | randyrkelly
[11:13] <Guest18219> hello
[11:13] <pushdown> hi there i want to install dependecies of a package but not itself how can i do that
[11:14] <AnxiousNut> Does the alternate CD have the ability to make an installation exactly like the Desktop cd?
[11:14] <hatake_kakashi> pushdown, use apt-get or aptitude, etc
[11:14] <hatake_kakashi> AnxiousNut, yes
[11:14] <parapan> dmainou: in which way you are setting a small business? SBS from Microsoft do you mean ???
[11:14] <ikonia> dmainou: there isn't one, exchange functionality is a real weakness
[11:14] <AnxiousNut> hatake_kakashi, thanks for verifying :)
[11:14] <ikonia> dmainou: there are products such as the suse exchange rival, but nothing really open source packaged for ubuntu
[11:15] <pushdown> hatake_kakashi, i know i should use one of them but i dont know what should i do
[11:15] <domen> i have a ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000]  graphic card. what drivers do i need to install for ubuntu 10.04?
[11:15] <hatake_kakashi> AnxiousNut, afaik alternative just installs it using CLI with ncurses, so you basically don't have a fancy GUI desktop with the buttons and all to begin with
[11:15] <dmainou> Hi parapan, I am not an IT person. It is a non IT company. I just want to keep costs down and avoid microsoft as possible so want to build a case for open source
[11:16] <hatake_kakashi> pushdown, you type in the program name I mentioned and you type in the package name, from there on those dpkg front end handles the dependencies
[11:16] <ikonia> dmainou: you won't find one
[11:16] <pushdown> bu i dont want the program
[11:16] <pushdown> i want only its dependencies
[11:17] <dmainou> ikonia: so the alternative is go full open source? I don't think they are prepared for it
[11:17] <dmainou> Is there a middle of the way
[11:17] <hatake_kakashi> pushdown, ohh I see what you mean.. umm
[11:17] <ikonia> dmainou: no, there is no open source exchange platform
[11:17] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi: i came back and it was on once again, but i killed it again and quickly checked ifconfig and it was gone.. still no ip for eth2 tho
[11:17] <N3VV3K> can you guys help me out with this http://pastebin.com/TCrVEcDU
[11:17] <N3VV3K> its a brasaro issue
[11:19] <BlackDalek> How do I turn on the on screen keyboard in Ubuntu?
[11:19] <hatake_kakashi> lelle_, yeah as much as I suspect its being respawned constantly most likely by init.. which means there's a script somewhere that's invoking the respawning process.. if you can kill it you can evade the stupid virtual interfaces.. but is your wireless network unprotected?
[11:19] <parapan> dmainou: like ikonia said .....make an ubuntu server and you'll be fine ....there wont be manny outlook facilities that the peoples will miss ....take note that outlook is developed to be integrated into the Microsoft developed products ...on the other hand, someone must always look for different open source alternatives to your needs...in order to meet the requirements of the peoples ....
[11:19] <lelle_> N3VV3K: i see you have downloaded certain software ;D
[11:20] <parapan> dmainou:
[11:20] <Thund3rX> Hi all, did someone interfaced the Ubuntu Cloud Offering Sokution based on Eucalyptus with VMWare nodes?
[11:20] <hatake_kakashi> pushdown, there's no easy program to do this but you can for example do this: dpkg-query -s foo| grep Depends
[11:20] <dmainou> parapan, do you know any guids that state what wouldn't work
[11:20] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi: ive enterned the router settings and turned off the firewall to see if it would help yes, but it still needs wpa pass but no problem there
[11:21] <radi> does anyone know how to configure gdesklets by terminal ?
[11:21] <parapan> dmainou: if you don't want the hassle of upgrading the apt-get each day, chanching the config files of different applications and so on .....you go for Microsoft and SBS
[11:21] <N3VV3K> i didnt have to install brasaro
[11:21] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi: network manager says ive got a connection but routers wireless doesnt see my computer, i guess its because i have no ip for eth2..
[11:21] <N3VV3K> but yeah can u help me
[11:21] <hatake_kakashi> lelle_, if so then you're going about it the wrong way.. if its wpa protected you'll need to use wpa_supplicant if you're going to go down the CLI path
[11:22] <dmainou> parapan: thanks, yes it has to work every time. I just would love to avoid microcrap as much as possible
[11:22] <parapan> dmainou: I have a SBS and a Win2008 Server installation on my office ....I am on Ubuntu myself ....I cannot managed to work any email client to get /connect to the exchange server ....so i'll check all my emails via webinterface
[11:22] <lelle_> hatake_kakashi: to get an ip?
[11:22] <miha> hey.. you now install spyware on ubuntu? doh http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/08/10/0319243/Canonical-Begins-Tracking-Ubuntu-Installations :)
[11:23] <hatake_kakashi> lelle_, yes because first you need to make the card authenticate with the AP first before you can actually obtain an IP
[11:23] <ikonia> miha: this is a support channel, please don't post junk
[11:23] <northline_> ffmpeg install is broken..
[11:23] <miha> ikonia it's not junk, it's slashdot about ubuntu sending messages to canonical every day
[11:24] <lelle_> miha theres also google chrome and www.google.com with tracks everything...
[11:24] <lelle_> buuut theres #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:24] <ikonia> miha: this is a support channel, please keep it to that
[11:24] <hatake_kakashi> miha, its a support channel not a chit chat channel
[11:24] <parapan> dmainou: this is what I can say from my experience .....you can usu Ubuntu server and other e-mail clients developed by the community ....most of the futures from outlook they will have also ....depends on what the peoples are used to anyway
[11:24] <northline_> when I set DHCP settings in network manager (DHCP Addres Only) all traffic stops.
[11:24] <C0_0D> Does this channel gives support also for jolicloud 1.0?
[11:24] <N3VV3K> can u guys friggin support me
[11:25] <N3VV3K> can you guys help me out with this http://pastebin.com/TCrVEcDU
[11:25] <ikonia> N3VV3K: calm down, the people here are voluenteers and are under no obligation to provide support
[11:25] <miha> northline_ well there must be some dhcp server around, your rooter perhaps?
[11:26] <domen> is there any solutions for ATI FireGL 9000 that it will work well under ubuntu 10.04?
[11:26] <N3VV3K> ikonia im not trying to be a jerk im just tryin to get some help
[11:26] <N3VV3K> this is a support channel
[11:26] <dmainou> parapan: not much really receiving and sending emails, setting up meetings (receiving and sending them to clients), synchronising contact within the office
[11:26] <yiwan> #join ubuntu-cn
[11:26] <ikonia> N3VV3K: then don't behave like a jerk, if someone knows the answer, and can help, they will
[11:27] <N3VV3K> can u help me
[11:27] <N3VV3K> cause the only response ive gotten was from someone giving me a statement i didnt need
[11:28] <tensorpudding> N3VV3K: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+bug/281633 is this your bug?
[11:29] <N3VV3K> thank you tensorpudding no i try to write an image and it ejects before the process even bgins
[11:30] <tensorpudding> what is your model of DVD drive?
[11:30] <C0_0D> hey!, please calm down. FYI: type /help rules
[11:30] <tensorpudding> Have you been able to ascertain that it's not a hardware problem?
[11:30] <BlackDalek> How do I turn on the on screen keyboard in Ubuntu?
[11:31] <N3VV3K> its f$ckin writing thankk god i went into synaptic package manager and downloaded dvd author lets hope it finishes
[11:32] <tensorpudding> Okay, so it is a problem only with Brasero then.
[11:32] <N3VV3K> thank you for even inquiring tensorpudding
[11:32] <N3VV3K> yeah i think that was a missing dependencie
[11:35] <N3VV3K> i also had an external hdd a western digital my passport and i unplugged without ejecting on a windows computer and it has a wbfs filesystem that i believe is currupted cause its not being recognized by ubuntu is there anyway to fix my external hdd??
[11:35] <ZoZo-> So.. I just installed ubuntu 10.04 netbook and somehow managed to remove my home screen gui.. :p
[11:35] <ikonia> hn you need to boot into windows and chkdisk it
[11:35] <ikonia> N3VV3K: you need to boot into windows and chkdsk the problem disk, ubuntu will then have no problem
[11:36]  * miha agrees with ikonia
[11:36] <N3VV3K> is there anyway i can skip windows all together
[11:36] <ikonia> N3VV3K: no, it needs a windows chkdsk
[11:36] <miha> ubuntu fsck can't really fix windows partitions
[11:36] <N3VV3K> friiiiiggg
[11:36] <ikonia> N3VV3K: next time don't unplug it without ejecting/unmounting
[11:36] <miha> N3VV3K windows install cd recovery console might work as well
[11:36] <miha> *might*
[11:36] <miha> :d
[11:36] <N3VV3K> i have a vmware with xp will that doo
[11:36] <Aemaeth> wow, this is like walking in on a horror story
[11:37] <miha> hehe
[11:37] <jil> hello
[11:37] <miha> N3VV3K perhaps, if you configure usb pass through correctly
[11:37] <tensorpudding> N3VV3K: if your VMware supports usb devices without emulation
[11:37] <ikonia> N3VV3K: ask in ##windows about that
[11:37] <miha> so xp inside vmware get your usb disk
[11:37] <Aemaeth> but i know your pain brother, i too have a windows partition that constantly makes less sense than the previous time
[11:37] <Procule> Hi people ! After an 'apt-get upgrade', is there a way to see the changelog of what was upgraded ?
[11:37] <N3VV3K> im not really sure what that means maybe you can send me a link and thank you all so much for the support past/present/future
[11:38] <jil> What could be the reason for me(jil) not been able to read a file for which my group(jil) has read access ???
[11:38] <ikonia> N3VV3K: if you join the channel ##windows they will help you fix that disk
[11:38] <tensorpudding> jil: what are the exact permissions on said file?
[11:38] <tensorpudding> and is the path to that file readable by jil?
[11:39] <N3VV3K> ok will do
[11:39] <jil> As in:>$ls -l touchme :>----rwx--- 1 jil jil 1K 2010-08-09 14:00 touchme
[11:39] <miha> N3VV3K google says: http://somejerkthemovie.com/blog/2007/12/little-vmware-usb-tip.html http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=456745  http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=774
[11:39] <N3VV3K> its finalizing hooray
[11:39] <ikonia> jil: because your user explitly has no access
[11:39] <keoz> jil : I've thought a little more about this. I suppose that the userflags surpass groupflags
[11:39] <tensorpudding> there is never any reason to give the owner less permissions than the group
[11:40] <jil> >$id ; >uid=1000(jil) gid=1000(jil) groups=...
[11:40] <N3VV3K> thank you miha
[11:40] <jil> ikonia my user has no access but my group does!
[11:41] <N3VV3K> haha is that spanis
[11:41] <keoz> jil : userflags dont allow you acces, groupflags yes
[11:41] <ikonia> jil: yes, but you are the owner, and your permissions explitly say "no access to the owner" - that will override the group
[11:41] <keoz> userflags are stronger
[11:41] <miha> N3VV3K you're welcome. i never quite got it to work. but i guess it's working by now
[11:41] <geirha> jil: It first checks if you are the owner, if you are, the permissions for the owner are used. If you're not the owner, it checks if you are in the group, and if you are, the group permissions are used...
[11:41] <Aemaeth> i think insanity has set in, but how do i know if i'm hallucinating or just hallucinating that i'm hallucinating? maybe everything's just fine
[11:42] <miha> Aemaeth did you take your medications?
[11:42] <jil> ok that's very clear, thx
[11:42] <N3VV3K> woooooosa
[11:42] <ServerTech> ..
[11:43] <ServerTech> Any realtime temperature monitors?? GRKELLM does not show processor core temps. :(
[11:44] <hatake_kakashi> have you used lmsensors? and configured it?
[11:44] <ServerTech> it shows only GPU
[11:44] <ServerTech> nothing else
[11:44] <ServerTech> only graphics card :( it is not showing CPU cores
[11:45] <hatake_kakashi> maybe you didn't configure lmsensors properly or your sensor chip on motherboard is either unsupported or non-existent.. I can see the temperature of both my cores
[11:46] <ServerTech> i cant
[11:46] <ServerTech> its not finding it
[11:46] <ServerTech> i dont know why
[11:46] <ServerTech> :(
[11:46] <ServerTech> sometimes it happens
[11:46] <ServerTech> it also happens sometimes with speedfan in windows
[11:47] <hatake_kakashi> have you used sensors-detect script?
[11:47] <jil> Ok As you said, I can read touchme when the right are as follow >----rwx--- 1 root jil ....
[11:48] <jil> But I was not able to change the owner of the file to root even so I had the file with the rights> rwxrwx--- 1 jil jil ....
[11:49] <jil> how can a normal user give a file to the root ?
[11:49] <punch> .
[11:49] <ikonia> jil: ir you are the owner, you can do what you want
[11:49] <ikonia> !permissions > jil
[11:49] <geirha> jil: Only the root user can change ownership of files
[11:49] <ikonia> jil: check out the pm from ubottu to fully understand permissions
[11:51] <muskan> I failed to install itues on 10.4, any help please?
[11:52] <muskan> I failed to install itunes on 10.4, any help please?
[11:53] <ikonia> muskan: itunes is for windows and mac only, I assume you mean you're using wine ?
[11:53] <muskan> ikonia, i tired using wine
[11:53] <ikonia> muskan: you may get better support in #winehq that's for wine specific help
[11:54] <muskan> ikonia, how do i go there
[11:54] <ikonia> type /join #winehq
[11:55] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[11:55] <jil> geirha and ikonia,  merci :)  I'll check the link. But geirha already answred.; only the root can change file permission. So even if I'm the owner I can't do everything to a file...
[11:55] <jil> is that specific to ubuntu or to all debian distrib ?
[11:55] <andyn> i've ignored all joins, parts, quits on this channel :)
[11:56] <muskan> ikonia,  thank you
[11:56] <b1ackcr0w> i'm having trouble getting a touch screen to work