[00:03] <funky> hey guys
[00:03] <funky> I get processor id x86 family 6 model 7 stepping 19
[00:03] <funky> 10
[00:03] <funky> is it 32 or 64 bit?
[00:04] <utfans05> run a lspci in terminal
[00:05] <funky> its win 2000 terminal atm
[00:05] <funky> on which I want to install ubuntu
[00:05] <funky> I use set
[00:05] <funky> to show data
[00:06] <utfans05> funky, go into system properties and it should show what processor and if its 32 or 64 bit
[00:06] <gerhard> Hi, I'm now upgrading from lucid to precise. Will the bookmark menu retain intact in nautilus?
[00:06] <funky> utfans05: I can access cmd only
[00:07] <zeandre> Hello, i have a problem with sound
[00:07] <utfans05> funky then im not sure how to help you. you might want to try a windows irc channel
[00:07] <funky> processor architecture x=86
[00:07] <funky> does it mean its 32 or 64
[00:07] <zeandre> When I insert headphones it doesn't turn off speakers
[00:07] <funky> and yes I might ask in win
[00:07] <utfans05> thats 32 bit
[00:07] <gerhard> What will happen to the menue while transition from gnome2 to unity?
[00:07] <funky> ty
[00:07] <SonikkuAmerica> funky: You can try asking in ##windows
[00:07] <utfans05> if you see x86_64 then its 64
[00:10] <AtumT> Whats the command to check my ping?
[00:11] <gerhard> ping?
[00:11] <AtumT> ya, on this IRC channel
[00:12] <aaron__> iam using ubuntu 12.04 64 bit gnome fallback but in power options i cant choose the laptop to hibernate
[00:13] <AtumT> i guess its /quote ping nick, bit it doesnt show my latency
[00:14] <utfans05> AtumT, this is that i get * Ping reply from hubbard.freenode.net: ? second(s)
[00:14] <gerhard>  PING <Nick | Channel>
[00:15] <Prock> One or more modprobe configuration files to disable Nouveau are already present at: /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf.  Please be sure you have rebooted your system since these files were written.  If you have rebooted, then Nouveau may be enabled for other reasons, such as being included in the system initial ramdisk or in your X configuration file.  Please consult the NVIDIA driver README and your Linux distribution's
[00:15] <Prock> and i did reboot
[00:19] <delac> hey, would anyone know if firefox's  layers acceleration (layers.acceleration.force-enabled=true) is in usable state with any drivers (intel, nvidia, fglrx, radeon)?
[00:22] <mish-> I have two separate xscreens and I want to use a console command to switch the mouse+keyboard input between them, how can I do that? :)
[00:22] <arti> can I install ubuntu from hd without making it bootable?
[00:23] <WeThePeople> what does dpkg --configure -a do?
[00:23] <arti> or first I need to format it and somehow add ubuntu?
[00:24] <michael87> ok I have a dumb question. Where do I have to go to thank the ubuntu devolopers for raring ringtail :)
[00:24] <histo> michael87: you can donate on the download page.
[00:25] <kunji1> So, I've been doing some googling, what I have so far is that XF86WLAN is being triggered, but should be handled by something.  What in Ubuntu 13.04 is normally supposed to handle this?  Others have assigned this to a different shortcut and have XF86WLAN continue to toggle wireless and execute the shortcut (http://www.preshweb.co.uk/2011/03/disabling-wifi-kill-switch-on-inspiron-17/).  In my cast it did not keep the toggle function and I c
[00:25] <emmaleah> Ubuntu chat?
[00:25] <arti> i got 1 hdd with win on it and 1 usb hdd with ubuntu iso
[00:25] <Rus> Hi. im having with setting up apt-mirror. i deleted the lock file. but now have the following issue: proceed indexes:[Ssh cannot open archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/source/Sources.gz: No such file. (next line) apt-mirror: can't open index in proceed_index_gz at /usr/bin/apt-mirror line 449. can anyone help me?
[00:25] <histo> !dualboot | arti
[00:25] <arti> how I can install from usb without booting it?
[00:26] <histo> emmaleah: yes
[00:26] <arti> I know there are grub for example
[00:26] <michael87> histo, I'll have to do that wont I ? lol. raring is more fantastic on my laptop then 7 was. I can actually use all my buttons where windows 7 wouldn't let me and the window snapping and hot corners  feature is amazing. don't think I can live without it now
[00:26] <arti> so I create partions with grub loader and then what?
[00:26] <arti> copy iso to hdd and install it?
[00:26] <histo> arti: Do you need any of the files on the usb?
[00:27] <arti> histo usb yes , hdd no
[00:27] <histo> arti: What OS are you currently in?
[00:27] <Mikicacarica> http://tiny.cc/tf4tww
[00:27] <arti> at hdd box using win 2000
[00:27] <arti> safe mode with cmd
[00:27] <histo> !install | arti
[00:28] <histo> arti: well you need to boot the iso file either via cd or put it on the usb drive after backing up your files there.  Then you can install to the hard drive. There are other ways to install as well documented by ubottu
[00:30] <arti> how I can made win 2000 hdd bootable?
[00:31] <arti> I copy iso to say c:\
[00:31] <arti> then i have to install grub on c?
[00:31] <arti> thinks
[00:31] <SonikkuAmerica> arti: Nope.
[00:31] <SonikkuAmerica> arti: You use boot-repair from your live media.
[00:32] <kunji1> Hmm, from what people are saying here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/385646 it sounds like Network Manage is supposed to catch that symbol somehow.
[00:32] <histo> arti: no
[00:32] <arti> SonikkuAmerica:  pc here - 0 CDD - O boot from anythig aparth HDD or CDD
[00:32] <Reddy999> arti: hope this helps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RghpdQH1bpo
[00:32] <arti> so I can use win 2000 hd to boot
[00:32] <arti> thatsa it
[00:32] <histo> arti: No
[00:32] <thomas> join #flightgear
[00:33] <arti> usually if its windows I can format c: launch it and it does the rest
[00:33] <histo> arti: There are instructions on the download page and ubottu has given you instructions on how to install.
[00:33] <arti> all from same hdd
[00:33] <histo> arti: No you cannot with windows or any other os do that.
[00:33] <Guest72229> is there a flightgear forum and if so how can I join it please
[00:33] <histo> arti: You still need to boot to some type of OS to install
[00:33] <kunji1> And I found this, which sounds identical to my issue and is about that bug.  The other message threads appear to not be on the server any longer though T.T   http://www.mailrepository.com/message/3688641/
[00:33] <Reddy999> arti: to install Ubuntu using USB .. pls check https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RghpdQH1bpo
[00:34] <Guest72229> or rather flightgear channel?
[00:34] <arti> histo usd boot not suported by bios
[00:34] <arti> Reddy999:
[00:34] <arti> else I could of done it
[00:34] <Mikicacarica> Watch Chicago vs Miami LIVE here  ---> http://tiny.cc/tf4tww
[00:34] <histo> arti: then install via dvd or netboot
[00:34] <histo> !ot | miki
[00:35] <arti> histo ok netboot is idea however it seems tcp ip does not work on win2000
[00:35] <arti> and there are 0 dvd drive there too
[00:35] <histo> arti: Has nothign to do with windows
[00:35] <kunji1> histo: So I guess there are bug reports and it is known of, though not easy to find and without a fix after like 3.5 years T.T
[00:35] <arti> histo how netboot works then?
[00:35] <arti> i though it works via win
[00:36] <histo> arti: pull the hard drive out of the machine and install ubuntu using a different computer. Then put the hard drive back in... Or get a cdrom drive hooked up to it that you can boot from.
[00:36] <WeThePeople> what does dpkg --configure -a do?
[00:36] <arti> yes
[00:36] <kunji1> ?  I thought the bios did netboot, but the OS needs to be net bootable or something?
[00:36] <arti> ty
[00:37] <arti> hmmm
[00:37] <arti> i might see if I can somehow add usb boot to bios
[00:37] <arti> :D
[00:40] <histo> arti: How old is the machine?
[00:40] <arti> machine is new however 2006 bios
[00:40] <arti> it was flashed today and dude seems to put older one on it
[00:40] <supercom32> So I Installed ubuntu 12.10, then I tried to make GDM my default display manager by going "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm". Now the login screen never shows up and it's just black. If I change back to lightDM then it works fine. Any ideas how to get GDM working?
[00:40] <histo> arti: If it's a new machine then it can boot to usb
[00:41] <arti> histo:  when i press f12 it says current version supports hdd and cdd only
[00:41] <histo> supercom32: Is there a reason you don't want lightdm?
[00:41] <arti> its some crazy machine :D
[00:42] <supercom32> histo: Doesn't gnome-shell work best using GDM since that's what the developers use?
[00:42] <histo> arti: Well then you are stuck doing it one of the ways I've already told you.
[00:42] <thomas____> list
[00:42] <supercom32> histo: I was told that some bells and whistles don't work with lightDM.
[00:42] <thomas____>  / list
[00:42] <histo> supercom32: You don't even need a display manager to use gnome-shell or any other desktop environment for that matter.
[00:43] <supercom32> histo: well, that's good to know. But it still doesn't explain why GDM fails to work. Lots of instructions on the internet seem to indicate what I did should make it work.
[00:44] <arti> i see
[00:44] <arti> so linux can not self start with hdd
[00:44] <arti> like windows
[00:45] <arti> well I get cd then I got old cdrom somewre
[00:46] <histo> supercom32: yes it should work. How did you install gdm?
[00:46] <histo> arti: yes it can boot form hdd like windows
[00:46] <supercom32> histo: I used "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop ubuntu-gnome-default-settings"
[00:47] <histo> arti: What do you think it does w2hen you install it to a hard drive?
[00:47] <histo> supercom32: is gdm installed?  dpkg -l | grep gdm
[00:48] <Cheery> when I upgraded to raring, I noticed that youtube videos started stuttering
[00:48] <supercom32> histo: yep, it's installed.
[00:49] <Cheery> I wonder what's wrong? pulseaudio again?
[00:49] <histo> supercom32: No idea I'd look for log files in /var/log
[00:50] <Cheery> pulseaudio is the new butler of linux audio
[00:51] <histo> supercom32: but either way using gdm doesn't matter to the desktop environment
[00:52] <xzased_> hi there, I just upgraded to 13.04 and my virtualenvs all went kaput. How do I go about fixing them? they have all the installed packages on each lib folder but fail to import them
[00:52] <kunji1> Some of the new UEFI machine don't boot to USB, http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/
[00:53] <kunji1> There might be better UEFI boot stuff, I haven't really looked around
[00:56] <histo> kunji1: what?
[00:57] <histo> kunji1: what modern bios and or firmware have you seen that doesn't boot to USB?
[01:03] <diddi_> I just installed rxvt-unicode-256color with software center. I cant seem to find it and test it out. I want to know the "real" name before adding it as enviroment variable
[01:03] <Morph4me> histo: he might have it confused with what this (CSM on some MBs) is capable of doing ....ie UEFI only for usb (storage device)....but that is a users choice via the Bios settings  > http://oi50.tinypic.com/2zsv591.jpg
[01:09] <deadweasel> DDR3 is helpful
[01:09] <deadweasel> 1333mhz is helpful, thank you.
[01:10] <histo> deadweasel: from the man page While this is a good point in terms  of
[01:10] <histo>        report  speed  and  safeness, this also makes the presented information
[01:10] <histo>        possibly unreliable.
[01:11] <deadweasel> hooray!
[01:11] <deadweasel> :)  I'll turn on my machine and do it the right way then...
[01:11] <deadweasel> *off
[01:12] <histo> Ahh was going to say sudo dmidecod --type memory would sort the info to just memory
[01:13] <supercom32> histo: So I'm still trying to get GDM working since some features of gnome-shell depend on it. However, I still can't figure out why the login screen won't show. Maybe it's trying to load some Unity one, which doesn't work with GDM?
[01:13] <OerHeks> histo, sudo lshw -short -C memory or  this one is nicer: sudo dmidecode -t memory
[01:14] <kkerwin> !bumblebee
[01:14] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[01:14] <histo> supercom32: No features of gnome shell depend upon a display manager.
[01:15] <histo> supercom32: YOu don't even need a display manager.
[01:15] <supercom32> histo: Sure, but regardless I would like GDM to work. :P
[01:16] <supercom32> histo: If I change to KDM for example, I'm sure i'd get the same black screen.
[01:16] <histo> doubtfull
[01:16] <histo> supercom32: Did you check for any logs?
[01:16] <histo> supercom32: perhaps you can paste them so we can take a look.
[01:16] <supercom32> I looked in the logs, but I'm not familiar enough to know which one to search or what to look for.
[01:22] <abc_test> hello
[01:24] <onionHead_> They all drunk
[01:30] <kingfisher64> can someone recommend me an aes encryption program for ubuntu that works with 13.04. Thanks
[01:32] <nrdb__> kingfisher64, that is very general, can you narrow that done a bit, GUI or console etc.
[01:35] <utfans05> this channel died.... lol
[01:35] <WeThePeople> odd
[01:35] <utfans05> well it is friday night too....
[01:37] <utfans05> its a mass join of ppl...
[01:37] <sonofzeus> Hey there
[01:38] <sonofzeus> I xcant seem to find skype in synaptic package manager on alive cd?
[01:39] <sonofzeus> Anyone on?
[01:39] <utfans05> ony 1550 ppl on
[01:39] <sonofzeus> WTF?
[01:40] <sonofzeus> Whats up with these logs?
[01:40] <sonofzeus> OMGGGGGGGGGGGG
[01:41] <sonofzeus> Oh no how shall I hide this shit?
[01:41] <sonofzeus> Its flooding my screen
[01:42] <utfans05> yeah same here
[01:42] <utfans05> must be some connection issues with the irc server for these people
[01:42] <utfans05> afk a while
[01:47] <VisceralSound> Anyone on 13.04 have any knowledge on installing an Asus PCE-N15 driver (rtl8188ce) I'm getting some errors when "making" it.
[01:47] <sowling> (//) Ola (//)
[01:48] <Runemoro> Hi, when I do "X -configure" it tells me "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices."
[01:49] <Runemoro> Also, the computer boots in failsafe mode automaticly
[01:49] <capinjack> Hello, all
[01:51] <pulsoste> I'm trying to install wireshark, but my ubuntu is broken, can someone please help - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5653062/
[02:04] <marshall> hey ubuntu
[02:04] <marshall> how do I see which process is killing my CPU?
[02:04] <th0r> marshall: top?
[02:04] <marshall> top says "97.7%id"
[02:04] <straemer> marshall: there's a program called system monitor if you want a gui
[02:05] <marshall> straemer: nah, i'm running ubuntu server
[02:05] <marshall> th0r: top says "97.7%id", that means my CPU is being used, ya?
[02:06] <th0r> marshall: probably. The top item in top should be the one using the most. Check that pid with 'ps ax' and you can see what the program name is
[02:08] <hsn> 97id means that your cpu is almost idle
[02:11] <aaron_> how can i turn off the backlight keyboard in ubuntu 12.04 64 bit?
[02:11] <hsn> try fn+5
[02:11] <chris40312> Anyone with Ubuntu 12.04 connecting to Citrix shared app?
[02:13] <aaron_> hsn, its the brightness of the screen
[02:14] <hsn> try other fn combos
[02:15] <aaron_> hsn, nothing
[02:16] <hsn> on my asus its fn + f3/f4
[02:16] <hsn> f5 is on my sonny
[02:17] <aaron_> hsn, i was thinking about a script or somethjng
[02:18] <hsn> like that? sudo "echo 1 > /sys/class/leds/keyboard/brightness"
[02:19] <aaron_> hsn, maybe
[02:19] <aaron_> hsn i found something
[02:19] <aaron_> hsn rr
[02:19] <aaron_> brb
[02:21] <aaron_> hsn, can you tell me the command again no luck here
[02:22] <hsn> it needs asus modules loaded to work
[02:22] <hsn>  sudo "echo 1 > /sys/class/leds/keyboard/brightness"
[02:23] <aaron_> hsn, it works i dont want to work
[02:23] <aaron_> i want to gain more battery duration
[02:23] <aaron_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/171384/keyboard-backlighting-not-working-on-a-vaio-laptop
[02:23] <aaron_> i have a vaio laptop
[02:23] <aaron_> hsn, what do you think of that?
[02:25] <aaron_> hsn, this command that you wrote is to turn off the backlit?
[02:26] <hsn> no, to turn it on
[02:26] <aaron_> hsn, i should repleace the 1 with 0?
[02:26] <aaron_> hsn, to turn it off
[02:26] <aaron_> ?
[02:26] <hsn> yes
[02:26] <aaron_> its temporary?
[02:27] <hsn> but on sony, it will be different filename
[02:27] <hsn> yes
[02:27] <hsn> on sonny it should be /sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/kbd_backlight
[02:27] <hsn> if kernel module loaded
[02:28] <aaron_> hsn, look at that
[02:28] <aaron_> hsn, from modinfo sony-laptop | grep keyboard
[02:30] <aaron_> hsn, hmm
[02:30] <aaron_> hsn, echo "options sony-laptop kbd_backlight=0" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/sony-laptop.conf
[02:30] <aaron_> hsn, i'll reboot
[02:31] <Jagst3r15> how do I send a file to myself using ftp command
[02:31] <aaron__> hsn, no luck
[02:33] <th0r> Jagst3r15, with ftp a file is transferred between an ftp server and an ftp client. You need server software on one computer, and client software on the other
[02:33] <Jagst3r15> oh
[02:34] <seyfarth_> accidnetally changed permissions across my entire home directory. what's the default file/folder permissions for user files on 13.04
[02:36] <tomreyn> Jagst3r15: maybe what you want to do is to transfer files to your home computer which runs linux? in this case you could install openssh-server on your home computer and use the sftp protocol (and a client for it) to transfer files to it. that's usually a preferred option unless you really need FTP for some reason.
[02:36] <eddievanhoy> Can anyone point me to a room to help me get the netflix app to work
[02:38] <Injigo> evening peoples
[02:39] <maximiliano> hello guys, i seem to be unable to use a mouse that i have used before, i have plugged the cord in all my USB ports and ubuntu doesn't recognise it, i know the problem isn't the mouse because it works in windows, any idea how i can get it to work again?
[02:41] <maximiliano> nvm, it decided to work again, idk why :/
[02:41] <maximiliano> i might be back later, thanks guys
[02:41] <aaron_> does anybody knows how to turn off the backlit keyboard?
[02:41] <aleck> Speaking spanish?
[02:44] <Injigo> i seem to be getting huge log files, with no rotation, unsure of how to proceed
[02:46] <tomreyn> Injigo: learn about how to use / configure logrotate
[02:47] <Injigo> tomreyn: thanks, yeah, just learning that now actually
[02:47] <kkerwin> Anyone have any experience with bumblebee and optimus?
[02:47] <tomreyn> !anyone | kkerwin
[02:48] <yofun> does anyone know of a package. that would let me pasue/play youtube videos from the system tray in the sound
[02:48] <yofun> oo?
[02:48] <yofun> wow
[02:48] <Injigo> permission denied? i wonder why should do next
[02:48] <tomreyn> Injigo: depends on what you were trying to do
[02:49] <kkerwin> tomreyn: Very well; I was under the impression that my question was ... highly specialized.
[02:49] <kkerwin> In any event.
[02:50] <Injigo> tomreyn: i was being sarcastic but i ran "logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf" in a terminal
[02:50] <tomreyn> kkerwin: i bet a couple of people here use those. personally i don't and i have zero experience with them. but the those who have will more likely respond when you ask a more specific question
[02:50] <[0gb_us]> When I buy software from the Ubuntu Software Center, it there a way to keep the downloaded package for my archives?
[02:50] <walltender>  In open source software, which version is the latest, v.1.13 or v1.9?
[02:50] <kkerwin> According to my research, the tutorial contained at http://eternalvoid.net/tutorials/linux-optimus-gt650m/ is the premier tutorial for configuring a GT 650M chip to work without allowing an nVidia driver to proactively delete one's OpenGL drivers. Unfortunately, I cannot seem to get the options provided for the nvidia module install to provide a complete compilation of the dkms module.
[02:51] <[0gb_us]> 1.13 is later than 1.9.
[02:51] <[0gb_us]> In any software, not just open source.
[02:51] <tomreyn> Injigo: won't help until there is a configuration on how to handle those big files you have already.
[02:53] <tomreyn> walltender: the former
[02:53] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[02:53] <tomreyn> walltender: the former, since 13 > 9
[02:53] <Injigo> tomreyn: oh? i was under the impression that there is a preconfigured configuration file after install
[02:53] <yofun> does anyone know of a package. that would let me pasue/play youtube videos from the system tray in the sound (ubuntu 13.04)
[02:55] <tomreyn> Injigo: there is. you would have to have log files in non-standard locations, unusual error conditions, or log files not handled by logcheck's default configuration to have those log files already covered grow large.
[02:56] <lefftte> hello  everybody
[02:56] <yofun> dang it who highlighted me?
[02:56] <lefftte> em.. i want to ask how can i uninstall a app?
[02:57] <walltender> tomaw: What kind of convention does it follow? From this link http://gitorious.org/meego-developer-tools/powertop/commits/master, the tags order looks like v1.9 > v1.13, but I don't know if the tags are in order?
[02:57] <Injigo> tomreyn: right, my kern.log and sys.log are unusually large (about 4.5 GB each). i'm fairly certain that it was the firewall dropping full logging into them. anyway, i disabled the firewall logging...
[02:57] <tomreyn> lefftte: if by "app" you mean a package, then you can use software center or synaptic
[02:58] <yofun> does anyone know of a package. that would let me pasue/play youtube videos from the system tray in the sound (ubuntu 13.04)
[02:58] <lefftte> tomreyn:   i will have a try tks
[02:59] <tomreyn> walltender: i assume github just does an alphabetical sort there.
[03:01] <Tex_Nick> yofun:  don't know what player you're using ... but many players & browsers allow you to play/pause with the "keyboard spacebar"
[03:02] <yofun> Tex_Nick:  yes but i want to be able to pasue/play with my systrau
[03:02] <xavier23> Hi guys…… anyone know, how to increase swap file space on ubuntu? Is it necessary to create new swap file, or can i just edit existing file?
[03:02] <yofun> Tex_Nick:  yes but i want to be able to pasue/play with my systray i seen it in ubuntu 12.10 but i cant rember how to enabled it
[03:03] <tomreyn> xavier23: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_do_I_add_more_swap.3F
[03:04] <Tex_Nick> yofun:  how exactly is that supposed to work ?
[03:05] <yofun> i have  the youtube "web app" open and i hit the sound icon and there would be a play/pasue button for the current youtube video Tex_Nick
[03:06] <kkerwin> Having difficulty installing bumblebee using the recipe here: http://eternalvoid.net/tutorials/linux-optimus-gt650m/ ... dkms fails to run. Anyone have experience using bumblebee for nvidia optimus cards?
[03:08] <iamgiam> Hi peeps
[03:09] <zerozero> zup
[03:09] <iamgiam> is there an Intel 64 download for Ubuntu of does the amd64 do both ?
[03:09] <tomreyn> kkerwin: have you tried this, yet? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[03:10] <kkerwin> tomreyn: Yes. The problem with it is that the stock nvidia-current driver will quietly and "helpfully" remove OpenGL files.
[03:10] <hdon> iamgiam, what?
[03:10] <hdon> oh
[03:10] <zerozero> there is a torrent for Ubuntu 64 here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[03:10] <kkerwin> tomreyn: The "incantation" in the tutorial I listed is supposed to get around that. But, it's failing.
[03:11] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[03:11] <iamgiam> I ask as on the main dl page it only gives 2 options . x86 or 65 and then downlods the amd64.iso
[03:12] <zerozero> iamgiam: I dunno, try both, they're small dl's
[03:13] <tomreyn> kkerwin: what do you mean by "stock nvidia-current driver"?
[03:13] <iamgiam> the 13.04 amd64 just hangs. the x86 works but I would prefer the 64 bit version. its maybe a graphics issue but unsure.
[03:13] <kkerwin> Either the package that one can install through ubuntu, the ppa I found,  or the file downloaded from nvidia's website.
[03:13] <tomreyn> kkerwin: it seems to be that the ubuntu.com how-to involves using a packag called bumblebee-nvidia
[03:14] <tomreyn> kkerwin: i see, well then i'm afraid i can't help.
[03:14] <kkerwin> tomreyn: Thank you.
[03:15] <kkerwin> tomreyn: Actually, I'm going though some logs now. Are you familiar with a python package called "apport"? If so, what provides it, please?
[03:15] <tomreyn> iamgiam: by "intel 64", are you referring to IA64 ?
[03:15] <jose__> Help
[03:15] <jose__> to install wireless driver
[03:16] <tomreyn> iamgiam: if so, use the x86 one
[03:16] <iamgiam> bit of a noob here its an intel core i5
[03:16] <jose__> I downloaded the source code
[03:17] <tomreyn> iamgiam: then you should be able to use the x86_64 / amd64 one
[03:17] <jose__> While write in the folder: make install
[03:17] <tomreyn> kkerwin: apport it ubuntu's bug reporting utility
[03:17] <kkerwin> tomreyn: Found it: python-apport
[03:18] <kkerwin> tomreyn: And it still didn't solve my problem, damn.
[03:18] <jose__> /lib/modules/3.2.0-40-generic/build
[03:18] <iamgiam> ok thanks so the blank screen is more likely a graphics issue. joy lol. will try some of the switches to get passed it.
[03:18] <jose__> don't exist file or directory
[03:18] <tomreyn> jose__: before you try to build modules yourself manually, you should try to use a packaged build.
[03:19] <tomreyn> kkerwin: i also don't see how apport relates to bumblebee?
[03:20] <jose__> How is that done?
[03:20] <tomreyn> jose__: which driver are you trying to install, for which hardware, and why? and which ubuntu version are you running?
[03:20] <kkerwin> tomreyn: It doesn't. Not to bumblebee. The script that I'm attempting to troubleshoot is for installing an nVidia driver. It was failing, and the last message that it had before failing in the logs was an import error on the apport python module.
[03:21] <jose__> Ubuntu 12.04
[03:21] <jose__> Realtek RTL8188CE
[03:21] <tomreyn> kkerwin: i see. i guess that's something i can't help with, i'm afraid.
[03:21] <walltender> How do I remove self compiled program without "uninstall" option?
[03:22] <kkerwin> No problem. I figured that finding the right python module would be easy enough, and I found it. Problem was, it didn't fix the larger problem. Thanks again, though.
[03:22] <jose__> Don't work the wireless
[03:23] <jose__> HP mini
[03:24] <tomreyn> jose__: thanks for aswering two of the questions i asked. do you also want to answer the other two? which driver are you trying to install, and why?
[03:24] <tomreyn> walltender: you'd on your own, that's not supported.
[03:24] <tomreyn> *you're
[03:24] <jose__> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=48&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8188CE
[03:25] <jose__> Don't work the wireless
[03:26] <walltender> tomreyn: There must be a way?
[03:28] <yofun> looks like they got rid of the youtube systray app :(
[03:29] <zerozero> Does anyone know how to install drivers for the wireless dongle TP-LINK TL-WN722N???
[03:30] <tomreyn> jose__: remove all the files you downloaded and extracted. then do this: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-cw-3.6-precise-generic && sudo modprobe rtl8192ce
[03:30] <tomreyn> jose__: http://askubuntu.com/questions/277169/module-rtl8192ce-not-found-howto-reinstall-ubuntus-realtek-driver-on12-04
[03:30] <yofun> zerozero:  what version?
[03:30] <tomreyn> jose__: you should only turn to driver downloads from some websites as a last resort, most of the time there are working packages.
[03:31] <zerozero> 12.04
[03:31] <tomreyn> walltender: not supported, just like the installation method you chose.
[03:31] <jose__> ok
[03:31] <zerozero> this dongle has no linux support on its offical site
[03:32] <grendal-prime> so got a client..ubuntu 12.04 on her laptop.  everything working fine for a few weeks..then out of the blue.she runs systemupdate right..now every time she shuts the thing down, i have to yank the battery and discharge the power and then sometimes it will start
[03:32] <yofun> zerozero:  you could try http://askubuntu.com/questions/98844/how-do-i-get-a-tp-link-tl-wn722n-wireless-card-working
[03:33] <PandaFoar> Hi, I was trying to apt-get dist-upgrade and it mentioned libc-2.13.so needing to be out of /lib so I moved i to my home directory and now my system seems pretty much broken
[03:33] <PandaFoar> Is there anyway I can fix this? I'm still connected via ssh
[03:33] <zerozero> Or how can I install the windows 7 drivers for the TL-WN722N wireless dongle?
[03:33] <grendal-prime> presario cq56 is the model  blink codes dont match anything that compaq has on there website..it just blinks continously
[03:33] <tomreyn> zerozero: ath9k_htc is the driver module you want
[03:34] <zerozero> Thanks yofun
[03:34] <yofun> anytime :)
[03:34] <zerozero> thanks tomreyn
[03:35] <savio> Hi
[03:36] <PandaFoar> Is there anyway I can fix this? I'm still connected via ssh
[03:37] <tomreyn> zerozero: generally this was probably a bad hardware choice, see the comment on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsTP-Link
[03:39] <JoshDreamland> could someone please tell me how to fix whatever is supposed to be responsible for launching firefox from thunderbird/pidgin/etc?
[03:39] <zerozero> Yeah it says "waste of money." I seen on a forum that it was recommended on BackTrack 5 for out-of-the -box support, but they lied...
[03:40] <zerozero> got it cheap on eBay tho...
[03:40] <PandaFoar> Hi, I was trying to apt-get dist-upgrade and it mentioned libc-2.13.so needing to be out of /lib so I moved i to my home directory and now my system seems pretty much broken
[03:41] <yofun> PandaFoar:  cant you just move it back?
[03:42] <PandaFoar> yofun: Nope mv depends on libc.so
[03:42] <PandaFoar> BUT while waiting I remembered you could set libary/binary paths
[03:42] <yofun> agh
[03:42] <PandaFoar> So I just did export LD_LIBRARY=$(pwd)
[03:42] <yofun> did it work?
[03:42] <PandaFoar> Yes
[03:42] <yofun> nice
[03:42] <yofun> :)
[03:43] <sanav> hello i'm trying to access apache2 server 's index page through my external IP of my system.It work for internal IP and localhost .Please guid me how to do that .Thanks
[03:43] <PandaFoar> New SSH connections weren't allowed though and my server has been getting DDOS attacks throughout the day
[03:43] <yofun> ah:(
[03:43] <zerozero> Does anyone recommend any wireless dongles with full reaver and aircrack support? Prehaps something like the RTL8187 chipset?
[03:44] <JoshDreamland> Whenever anything tries to open a link in Firefox, I get the error, "Firefox is already running, but is not responding."
[03:44] <JoshDreamland> Can anyone tell me the config file that is responsible for handling URLs?
[03:44] <sanav> here is my /etc/hosts file : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5653286/
[03:44] <_anARCHist_> any one ever have the issue where ubuntu server 12.10 wont connect with a static ip
[03:45] <kkerwin> Alright, managed to get **most** things to work. Problem that I'm having now is that my computer is still injecting the nouveau driver even though it is blacklisted.
[03:46] <calligar> the default desktop edition of ubuntu, what is it? Unity desktop?
[03:46] <kkerwin> calligar: Yep
[03:46] <PandaFoar> yofun: and somehow i broke it by moving the files back to /lib
[03:46] <calligar> kk, thx
[03:46] <yofun> ha PandaFoar fix it again? :P
[03:46] <yofun> reset the path?
[03:47] <JoshDreamland> New question: Does anyone have an xdg-open that doesn't fail at live?
[03:47] <PandaFoar> yofun: How so?
[03:48] <yofun> PandaFoar:  what you did earlyer export LD_LIBRARY=$(pwd)
[03:48] <jose__> Don't work wireless :(
[03:48] <yofun> wont it do it again?
[03:48] <PandaFoar> yofun: It will not
[03:48] <yofun> oh :/ why not?
[03:48] <PandaFoar> ls: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:49] <PandaFoar> Anything that depends on C is giving the same error
[03:49] <yofun> :( hmmm
[03:49] <jose__> Help
[03:49] <JoshDreamland> wow, uninstalled xdg-utils and it's still broken
[03:50] <jose__> I need driver for wireless
[03:50] <PandaFoar> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/root/libBack/lib/
[03:50] <PandaFoar> Is that the correct command for setting multiple paths in a variable?
[03:51] <jose__> I have Ubuntu 12.04, HP mini, Realtek RTL8188CE.
[03:59] <PandaFoar> Hi, I was trying to apt-get dist-upgrade and it mentioned libc-2.13.so needing to be out of /lib so I moved i to my home directory and now my system seems pretty much broken. Keep getting "error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[03:59] <PandaFoar> whenever I try and run most commands
[04:03] <PandaFoar> Hi, I was trying to apt-get dist-upgrade and it mentioned libc-2.13.so needing to be out of /lib so I moved i to my home directory and now my system seems pretty much broken. Keep getting "error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" whenever I try and run most commands
[04:03] <tomreyn> PandaFoar: reinstall, or try to fix it from a live cd. somewhere you made a big mistake there. touching libc*.so is never a good idea. nor is running apt-get dist-upgrade unless you are following some official how-to.
[04:04] <PandaFoar> tomreyn: I still have shell access, I managed to get everything working before using LD_LIBRARY_PATH but now that isn't working
[04:06] <PandaFoar> I haven't deleted the libraries either, they are still present just in different folders
[04:07] <tomreyn> try running /bin/busybox
[04:07] <PandaFoar> no such file
[04:07] <tomreyn>  /bin/static-sh ?
[04:08] <PandaFoar> Nothing
[04:08] <_anARCHist_> any one ever have the issue where ubuntu server 12.10 wont connect with a static ip
[04:08] <tomreyn> PandaFoar: /usr/lib/initramfs-tools/bin/busybox ?
[04:08] <PandaFoar> no iniramfstools folder
[04:09] <tomreyn> PandaFoar: can't help you there
[04:10] <tomreyn> _anARCHist_: most likely. but that's not one but many different possible causes for the result you're describing.
[04:10] <tomreyn> _anARCHist_: so you should provide a more detailed description of the problem, ideally containing error messages.
[04:11] <_anARCHist_> it was working at on point.
[04:11] <_anARCHist_> then it stoped after updates
[04:12] <tomreyn> _anARCHist_: so i assume the problem is that the system cannot connect to the internet or some other network it is connected to, right? do you still have access to this system, though? if so, by which means?
[04:12] <PandaFoar> tomreyn: Any way to move files without mv? If there's an alternate way to read files I could echo $(command to read here) >> libraryfile.so
[04:13] <PandaFoar> or make symbolic links without ln
[04:13] <_anARCHist_> i can connect with in the sytem
[04:13] <_anARCHist_> full access
[04:13] <tomreyn> PandaFoar: you could try cp or cat. but i really think your system is hosed and i don't feel like trying to support you at this point.
[04:14] <tomreyn> _anARCHist_: so you have keyboard and monitor attached to the computer and you are next to it or something?
[04:14] <_anARCHist_> yes
[04:15] <_anARCHist_> i tried dhcp it worked for a little bit at one point. but when it static it fails
[04:15] <tomreyn> _anARCHist_: then check /var/log/syslog - it should say why it failed to connect or what went wrong.
[04:17] <tomreyn> _anARCHist_: also look at the output of "ip link show" and "ip addr show" to see whether the interface is up and whether an ip address is assigned.
[04:18] <_anARCHist_> ifconfig eth0 up then ifconfig shows
[04:18] <_anARCHist_> eth0 but no ip
[04:20] <tomreyn> _anARCHist_: try this: grep -C10  ': link up' /var/log/syslog*
[04:21] <_anARCHist_> ok give me a few minutes
[04:21] <tomreyn> it should linst the line from syslog where youthe interface was brought up, with some context.
[04:21] <tomreyn> *list
[04:21] <mojtaba1> Hi, I have Asus router (rt-n66u), Does anybody know how can I stream the video files which are in Hard drive attached to my router, via my ubuntu?
[04:22] <danlamanna> silly, frustrating issue here. I have terminal bound to Ctrl+Alt+T and no matter where my cursor is it always opens on the left monitor
[04:22] <danlamanna> anyway I can always get it to show up where my cursor is?
[04:23] <tomreyn> _anARCHist_: i'm afraid i need to head out. check in #ubuntu-server , too.
[04:23] <A1Recon> mojtaba1: So you got the The Dark Knight eh?? Well, have you tried it before in some other OS??
[04:23] <danlamanna> (using mate)
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: you know a way to sort syslog into colours/groups for easy reading?
[04:23] <_anARCHist_> thanks ill do these steps then check back tommorow tomreyn
[04:24] <utfans05> evening
[04:24] <utfans05> or night which ever yall perfer
[04:24] <_anARCHist_> ether
[04:24] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: if you open it with a text editor, it may apply some syntax coloring, vim does for example if you have "syntax on" set.
[04:24] <tomreyn> _anARCHist_: good luck!
[04:24] <utfans05> http://www.facebook.com/twitchtv
[04:25] <A1Recon> utfans05: How ahead/behind of GMT are u?
[04:25] <_anARCHist_> thanks
[04:25] <utfans05> I am Central Time in the USA so i believe its -6 right now
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: tnx lemme try syntax on
[04:25]  * _anARCHist_ ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.9.4 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium  ** CPU: AMD A6-3420M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics (1.00 GHz) ** RAM: 5606 MB Total (1877 MB Free) ** VGA: AMD Radeon(TM) HD 6520G ** Uptime: 42.82 Hours **
[04:26] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: Yes. Actually no.
[04:26] <A1Recon> utfans05: Im +0530 hrs so its morning 1000 hrs here
[04:26] <utfans05> so where appx, Im in Texas
[04:26] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: Do you know how can I stream my videos from the hard drive?
[04:26] <A1Recon> mojtaba1: Have u tried that streaming thing before??
[04:28] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: Actually I could not. :-P
[04:28] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: Have you had such experience?
[04:29] <utfans05> A1Recon: where appx are you located I'm in Texas
[04:30] <mojtaba1> Have anybody had the experience of streaming video files on ubuntu?
[04:31] <quantumvm> exit
[04:32] <A1Recon> mojtaba1: sorry for logging out!! a small accident
[04:33] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: No problem. Have you had such experience?
[04:33] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: Do you know what should I do?
[04:33] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: I am also interested to stream the videos on my android phone.
[04:34] <Jeckidy> Who's getting the OUYA?
[04:35] <xavier23> Hi……… anyone know if its normal to require > 5mins to create a 3GB swapfile on ubuntu?
[04:35] <A1Recon> mojtaba1: I do stream from my PC to my Android everyday, although I have never done HDD stream through my router. Apparently your HDD needs to be formatted to EXT3 for BEST use. Here's a link http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com/showthread.php?t=8733
[04:37] <A1Recon> mojtaba1: And I also read in smallnetbuilder.com that the maual given by ASUS sucks, so you can look at reviews by smallnetbuilder.com and the comments over there for more help
[04:37] <xavier23> anybody?
[04:38] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: Do you know what should I do to stream my files from the HDD to my computer?
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> !swap | xavier23
[04:39] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: Could you please also let me know how can I stream from my PC to my mobile? (galaxy note I)
[04:40] <utfans05> A1Recon: where are you located at, I'm in Texas
[04:40] <xavier23> lotuspsychje: thanks, i know what a swap file is. my question is : it takes more than 5 minutes to create one on my system. is this normal ????
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> xavier23: depends how large your swap will be, are you in setup?
[04:41] <teguh> hy
[04:41] <teguh> hy all
[04:42] <xavier23> lotuspsychje: no just running from terminal on existing install. it's 3GB….
[04:42] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: Are you there?
[04:42] <jamie_> Hey all, I'm considering a move to ubuntu for my server (proliant microserver).  I just have some questions... :)
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> xavier23: that might take a while yes
[04:44] <utfans05> !ask | jamie_
[04:46] <A1Recon> mojtaba1: sorry i was away
[04:46] <jamie_> Thanks utfans05, I just wanted to ask about  Ubuntu's version of window's remote desktop connection.  Can it be done from windows? how does it comepare to windows?
[04:46] <A1Recon> utfans05: do you mind if i PM you?
[04:46] <jamie_> rather, window's version of RDC
[04:46] <utfans05> A1Recon: sure
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5653400/
[04:47] <utfans05> jamie_: you use ssh to connect to the server its totally text based and the equivalent in windows is putty
[04:47] <jamie_> thanks utfans05 !
[04:47] <mojtaba1> A1Recon: Could you please help me to stream video from HDD to my pc or from my pc to my phone?
[04:47] <utfans05> jamie_: if you have any more questions just go ahead and ask
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> !info xbmc > lotuspsychje
[04:50] <denelius> a beginners question re display mangers ubuntu 12.04 - how to check which display manager is installed? i think i have both installed but lightdm is default, which I am happy with - do i need to un-install gdm? any pointers much appreciated
[04:51] <utfans05> have you replaced it or using the one it came packaged with?
[04:51] <utfans05> denelius: have you replaced it or using the one it came packaged with?
[04:54] <denelius> so it i believe it came with lightdm - i then ran into an issue which i resolved however in doing so installed gdm which did not fix my issue and I believe have since gone back to light (set to default) i dont think i have replaced it - it was already there so didnt update
[04:54] <utfans05> denelius: so what are you looking to do, remove one or the other?
[04:55] <hellodavep> Where can I find detailed information about the WiFi network I am connected to? Such as DNS servers assigned via DHCP, Gateway, ect.
[04:55] <denelius> all is fine now - i think- i would just like to know if i need to remove gdm to avoid possible conflict or future errors?
[04:55] <denelius> also how to check which dm I am running
[04:56] <utfans05> hellodavep: if you look in the top right hand side you will see a wifi signal indicator, that will tell you which ssid you are connected to. to find out your dns and all that, i believe ifconfig will tell you that
[04:56] <utfans05> denelius: give me one second
[04:56] <denelius> beginner questions - appreciate the patience
[04:58] <hellodavep> utfans05: I already tried ifconfig, but it doesn't give me Gateway or DNS http://paste.ubuntu.com/5653413/
[04:59] <utfans05> hellodavep: route -nee in terminal
[04:59] <utfans05> will give you the gateway
[04:59] <kevinaktiff> Hi how are you i hope you are good i am new in ubuntu
[04:59] <kevinaktiff> and need some help cn anybody help me?
[05:00] <utfans05> hellodavep: actually if you run nm-tool | tail -n8 that will show you all the info you are looking for minus the gateway
[05:01] <yofun> kevinaktiff:  please ask your question
[05:01] <kevinaktiff> I am looking for emulators for neogeo like neogeo rage x to game boy color and to arcade games like win kawaks
[05:01] <kevinaktiff> i know i can run it on wine but i dont want to use nothing who have "win"
[05:02] <hellodavep> Ahh, thanks for your help utfans05! that nm-tool command helped me identify the DNS server and Gateway.
[05:02] <utfans05> hellodavep: you are welcome
[05:03] <guest-GAMR1l> buenas
[05:03] <utfans05> denelius: im still looking to figure out how to find out which dm your running
[05:03] <kevinaktiff> i dont know about the emulators and need you help me to search and install i looked for all google and i dont find nothing
[05:03] <denelius> thank you
[05:04] <hellodavep> kevinaktiff:I don't know if many people will be willing to help you with potentially illegal activities.
[05:06] <savio> kevinaktiff: why you don't want to use wine
[05:06] <kevinaktiff> I want to run neogeo games like neogeo rage X
[05:06] <kevinaktiff> and gameboy color games
[05:06] <kevinaktiff> thats emulators runs on windows but i dont want to use wine
[05:07] <theperfectpunk> Hello
[05:07] <theperfectpunk> it's been 17 hours since no reply
[05:07] <lasers> kevinaktiff: Open a terminal. "apt-cache search neogeo" and "apt-cache search gameboy"
[05:07] <utfans05> denelius: try this cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[05:07] <utfans05> denelius: in a terminal
[05:07] <theperfectpunk> can please anyone look at this thread
[05:07] <theperfectpunk> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2143854
[05:08] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: what is the thread?
[05:08] <hufeng> what about?
[05:08] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: my laptop has idt hd audio
[05:08] <denelius> lightdm
[05:08] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: but ubuntu is using Intel HD Audio
[05:08] <utfans05> denelius: is that the one you want to use or do you want to use something else
[05:09] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: so instead of saying "look at this thread" you could have just come up with a more direct question
[05:09] <savio> lasers: I don't think this emulator will available on repository as this is windows base I guess
[05:09] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: if it says "Intel HD Audio" in the sound settings, then that's what you have
[05:09] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: actually u might not be able to help me apparently
[05:09] <denelius> utfans05 - thank you, i am quite happy with that one  - do i need to be concerned that i may have gdm installed but not in use?
[05:09] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: I don't know what the problem is, because you haven't actually said what it is yet
[05:10] <utfans05> denelius: you can run a sudo apt-get purge gdm and that should get rid of the other one
[05:10] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: Ubuntu is using intel hd audio instead of idt audio
[05:10] <denelius> is that best practice? or recommended at least?
[05:10] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: do you have two sound cards?
[05:11] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: well one is the AMD HDMI audio and other is IDT HD Audio
[05:11] <savio> gordonjcp: I think blacklisting the Intel sound card will help
[05:11] <kevinaktiff> it says i found that emulator but dont have  graphical interface
[05:11] <kevinaktiff> mednafen
[05:11] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: and which do you want to use?
[05:11] <utfans05> denelius: i would recommend it just incase something happens you wont have to fool around with trying to find the culprit, its one less thing youll have to look into
[05:11] <booky> Once I set up an MTA for email, is their a gui program available to view email?
[05:12] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: i want to use IDT HD Audio
[05:12] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: but ubuntu uses the wrong driver for it
[05:12] <utfans05> booky: you can use thunderbird
[05:12] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: it shows up as intel hd audio
[05:12] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: Intel uses the correct driver for whatever chip you have
[05:12] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: there are only about four different types of sound card in the world
[05:12] <utfans05> booky: its built into ubuntu from launch, if you look in the top right hand corner there is a mail icon, if you click on it, it will guide you through the setup
[05:12] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: i am running an AMD chipset
[05:12] <booky> utfans05: So, could I just get with with just an MTA and thunderbird?
[05:13] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: does the sound work?
[05:13] <utfans05> booky: i do believe so
[05:13] <denelius> that was my thinking - thank you for the help utfans05, i think i am in good shape re dms - i will no doubt be back soon
[05:13] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: yes but the sound in windows 8 is far better
[05:13] <utfans05> denelius: if you have any other questions just come on back.
[05:13] <kevinaktiff> ?
[05:14] <booky> utfans05: I know there are spam filters and virus filters, and programs which allow me to access my mail from anywere on the web, but I'm only doing this for my website.
[05:14] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: "better" in what way?
[05:14] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: i heard somewhere that some configurations options in pavucontrol will appear if one installs the correct drivers
[05:14] <booky> The users would just be me.
[05:14] <utfans05> booky:  you should be able to get to it from thunderbird
[05:15] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: First is the Volume leveling
[05:15] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: there's only a couple of different drivers, because there's only a couple of different sound cards
[05:15] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: i just need the volume leveling and surround options in pavucontrol
[05:16] <booky> utfans05: thanks, I'll give it a try.
[05:16] <utfans05> booky: if you have any other issues please let us know and we will try to walk you through it
[05:17] <booky> utfans05: yes, I'll be giving it a try soon, I've always wanted control over my own email
[05:17] <kevinaktiff> a graphical interface to mednafen
[05:17] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: this guy here got it to work https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/201248
[05:20] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: can u help me?
[05:20] <theperfectpunk> pleasee
[05:21] <utfans05> !beg | theperfectpunk
[05:21] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: I don't have that chipset and I don't use surround sound
[05:21] <theperfectpunk> gordonjcp: could you please tell me how can i blacklist the current driver?
[05:21] <savio> theperfectpunk: ubuntu identified your sound driver and it load other as codec
[05:22] <theperfectpunk> savio: is there anyway to get dolby advanced audio in ubuntu?
[05:22] <gordonjcp> theperfectpunk: if you blacklist the driver, it won't load *any* driver for that device
[05:22] <gordonjcp> well, unless you add another one
[05:24] <savio> theperfectpunk:  there should be let's see till then keep patients
[05:25] <theperfectpunk> savio: my notebook speakers are dolby advanced audio v2 certified, and the sound kinda sucks in ubuntu as compared to windows 8. So i wanted to find out ways to imporove it :-)
[05:26] <savio> theperfectpunk: we got you buddy let see if someone has solution he will get back to you I'm also trying let see
[05:27] <jnhghy> Hi, I have an mysql table (for logging ) that had about 130k rows and 13.3 GB size, I reduced the row number to 7k and now the table shows 13.3 GB size and 13.1 GB Overhead. I runed optimize table on that table and the command has now about 14 hours since it's running. Is there anything else I can do to fix the table? or to get ride of the unwanted size?
[05:28] <gordonjcp> jnhghy: leave optimise running
[05:31] <jnhghy> gordonjcp: hmmmm... not quite what I was hoping to hear.... the server has it's memory at 100% and I don't want to block it anymore, but I assume this is the only solution right?
[05:34] <gordonjcp> jnhghy: you could try dumping out the rows you want, then destroying and recreating the database
[05:34] <gordonjcp> jnhghy: sounds a bit like living dangerously though ;-)
[05:34] <jnhghy> gordonjcp: got it, thanks
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a gui syntax colour highlight text editor by default
[05:36] <ChogyDan> lotuspsychje: is gedit not good enough?
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> ChogyDan: i found cobalt blue theme but, how can i sort the txt in colours?
[05:38] <ChogyDan> lotuspsychje: im sorry, i don't understand
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> ChogyDan: im looking for an editor to sort text into colours, for easy debug reading syslog example
[05:39] <Morph4me> lotuspsychje: why don't you use vim-gtk ? sudo apt-get install vim-gtk
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> Morph4me: lemme try that1 tnx
[05:40] <ChogyDan> lotuspsychje: in gedit, go to View > Highlight Mode
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> Morph4me: thats what i needed tnx!!
[05:41] <Morph4me> lotuspsychje: to use it inside of terminal eg  type > vim /var/log/syslog  to view it outside of terminal > type gvim /var/log/syslog
[05:45] <Licks> Wow
[05:45] <xianree> Hello
[05:45] <Licks> So, I managed to slipstream a rootkit in the latest ubuntu update.
[05:45] <Licks> Has anyone noticed this yet?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> Morph4me: tnx mate got it from terminal, great colour look now
[05:46] <hsn> is there software for data sync like dropbox which can i install on own server?
[05:46] <Morph4me> yw
[05:47] <xianree> Hmm whats the latest version of ubuntu
[05:48] <xianree> Hello
[05:49] <utfans05> i believe its 13.04
[05:49] <xianree> Oh whats it called
[05:49] <utfans05> not sure
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> !raring
[05:50] <utfans05> !ubuntu
[05:50] <utfans05> thanks wilee-nilee
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[05:50] <xianree> Cool
[05:51] <xianree> Whats the difference betweeb kubuntu and ubuntu
[05:51] <utfans05> !kubuntu
[05:51] <hsn> !lubuntu
[05:51] <hsn> !arm
[05:52] <xianree> !kubuntu
[05:52] <xianree> So lubuntu is more lightweight
[05:52] <utfans05> xianree: correct
[05:53] <xianree> Thanks.. I know what to download for my old netbook
[05:53] <utfans05> xianree: im running crunch bang on my netbook and it runs really good. you might want to give it a look too
[05:54] <utfans05> just a recommendation
[05:55] <quick-> hi i installed gnome3.9 but it wasnt working to i unistalled it and now i dont have acces to GUI . NO unity or gnome . Tried reinstalling but its of no use . Please help
[05:55] <utfans05> quick-: tried reinstalling what?
[05:56] <quick-> utfans05:  gnome and unity both
[05:57] <utfans05> quick-: so your not even getting a login screen, just the shell login?
[05:57] <quick-> utfans05:  ya tty1  no login screen
[05:57] <utfans05> quick-: hrm...
[05:58] <quick-> utfans05:  Any idea now to fix it . I am using 12.04 LTS
[05:58] <utfans05> quick-: looking now.
[05:59] <utfans05> quick-:  have you tried starting x manually and seeing what it says?
[05:59] <quick-> utfans05:pls tell me ,  How can i do it ?
[06:00] <aitrom> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[06:00] <aitrom> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/packages.pulse-eight.net_ubuntu_dists_precise_stable_binary-amd64_Packages
[06:00] <utfans05> quick-: go ahead and log in to that prompt and then type startx
[06:00] <aitrom> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[06:00] <utfans05> quick-:  see if it will load that way.
[06:00] <aitrom> getting this error while installing any package
[06:00] <aitrom> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[06:01] <WiCkEd> can anyone help me better understand how to use the Terminal? I'm new to Linux in general and am having some trouble understanding some of the forums designed to help me with things
[06:01] <utfans05> aitrom: when was the last time you did an apt-get update and upgrade?
[06:01] <quick-> utfans05: oh i tried that , tells failed to load session gnome .
[06:01] <utfans05> WiCkEd: try this http://iweb.dl.sourceforge.net/project/linuxcommand/TLCL/09.12/TLCL-09.12.pdf
[06:02] <utfans05> quick do a vim /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log and see where the error is.
[06:02] <WiCkEd> utfans05: thank you
[06:02] <gordonjcp> WiCkEd: you type stuff in and sometimes things happen
[06:02] <utfans05> quick-: sorry thats the wrong folder. hang on one sec
[06:03] <gordonjcp> WiCkEd: beyond that it's hard to be more specific, without knowing what you want to do
[06:03] <WiCkEd> gordonjcp: yeah I got that part but am generally unfamiliar with the command form
[06:03] <jnhghy> gordonjcp: Optimize table fixed the issue after running 16h, thanks for your time.
[06:03] <utfans05> quick-: that should be vim /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:06] <aitrom> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[06:06] <aitrom> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hardy-updates_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages
[06:06] <aitrom> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.           cannot install packages please help
[06:06] <quick-> utfans05: checking
[06:07] <aitrom> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header  E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hardy-updates_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages     E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.       cannot install packages please help
[06:08] <quick-> utfans05: Check the Xorg loag at http://paste.ubuntu.com/5653549/
[06:08] <quick-> utfans05: Check the Xorg log at http://paste.ubuntu.com/5653549/. I coudnt figure out any errors.
[06:10] <csharpguy> hello
[06:10] <quick-> csharpguy:  hi :)
[06:10] <csharpguy> quick-: hey!
[06:13] <quick-> utfans05: Thanks you . I got to go man :)
[06:17] <richcollins> what do I do for this? Failed to fetch http://us-west-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mesa/libglapi-mesa_8.0.4-0ubuntu0.3_amd64.deb: 403  Forbidden
[06:18] <netlar> My external hard drive is gives me a problem with booting Ubuntu 13.04.  The external HD is formated with msdos.  When the HD is attached it takes around 2 1/2 min to boot, when not attached it takes only 25 seconds.  I am not sure what the problem is.
[06:19] <utfans05> richcollins: was this during an apt-get update or install?
[06:19] <richcollins> utfans05: yeah during aptitude install
[06:19] <netlar> This is the dmesg log I get when the HD is attached http://paste.ubuntu.com/5652231/
[06:19] <richcollins> utfans05: bad sources?
[06:20] <richcollins> utfans05: looks like apt-get update fixed it
[06:21] <utfans05> richcollins: do a sudo apt-get update, then upgrade, then try to do the install
[06:21] <utfans05> richcollins: you may have old sources
[06:21] <utfans05> richcollins: make sure you do that apt-get update
[06:22] <utfans05> richcollins: i ment upgrade
[06:22] <richcollins> cool thanks doing that now
[06:22] <Makke> how to remove lwm with device lock pass? i got pass...... luke something didnt fix
[06:24] <utfans05> netlar: do you mean that the external is formatted in ntfs?
[06:24] <netlar> utfans05: yes sorry
[06:25] <utfans05> netlar: im doing some research now give me a few
[06:25] <netlar> utfans05: thank you so much
[06:28] <bhuey> I'm getting connection refused for port 3632 on this 13.04 machine
[06:28] <utfans05> netlar: im not finding anything with a google search and I havent tried to boot with an external drive hooked up. so I'm unsure of the issue
[06:28] <bhuey> What would be causing this ?
[06:28] <utfans05> bhuey: try doing an iptables -l and see if that port is closed
[06:29] <wilee-nilee> netlar, Make sure it is not above the internal in the bios, if you have windows source keep it defragged, and check the fstab if you are autobooting it.
[06:29] <utfans05> im sorry should be -L
[06:29] <wilee-nilee> auto mounting rather
[06:30] <netlar> wilee-nilee: ah, so the problem may be in the boot sequence?
[06:30] <wilee-nilee> netlar, Can be yeah, make sure the nternal HD is read first
[06:30] <netlar> ok
[06:32] <bhuey> utfans05: ok
[06:33] <Guest45806> wifi is not turning on in ubuntu 12.10
[06:34] <bhuey> utfans05: unsure as to what I'm looking at
[06:34] <wilee-nilee> Guest45806, with lspci in the terminal find the wifi info, and identify it.
[06:34] <bluelf1> Hey Guy I installed Ubuntu 13.02, When I boot in ubuntu I see lot of colors and a corrupted screen, how do I debug?
[06:34] <liazine> salut
[06:35] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | bluelf1
[06:36] <live> hey
[06:36] <Guest35364> any one here
[06:36] <Guest35364> yo bro
[06:36] <bluelf1> wilee-nilee: thanks looking into it
[06:37] <mkeirn89> Hello. Is there a way to just reset my mouse? My issue is that sometimes when I bog down my PC too much my mouse will cease to move around, it will still click on whatever is in front of it and right click to pull up a small menu but I can't move it to where I like. The problem can be solved by rebooting my PC but that's annoying, is it possible to just reboot my mouse?
[06:37] <Jordan_U> Guest35364: There are always people in this channel. Try asking your actual question and if anyone can answer, they will.
[06:37] <liazine> ya pas des français ici
[06:37] <wilee-nilee> mkeirn89, Is the computer swapping?
[06:37] <mkeirn89> !french
[06:38] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: Does unpluggin and re-inserting the mouse help?
[06:38] <Guest35364> any one using sparky Linux O/S ???
[06:38] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: And do you see any error messages in dmesg when this happens?
[06:38] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U It's a laptop, so I'm not sure. Using the keyboard function to turn the mousepad off and on does not help. Is dmesg a terminal command? I'm not super computer savvy, I'm afraid.
[06:39] <Jordan_U> Guest35364: This channel is for Ubuntu support only. For other distributions try their respective channels, or ##linux.
[06:39] <mkeirn89> wilee-nilee I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you mean :)
[06:39] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: Yes, "dmesg" is a terminal command that prints messages from the kernel (a lot of output).
[06:40] <Prock> need help, my browser has no sound but openarena does
[06:40] <MACJONES> whats up what is ur ubuntu q's
[06:41] <Prock> i need to get my sound working for all applications
[06:41] <liazine> je suis nouveau sur linux
[06:41] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U Well, I found the lots of output! I'm not sure how to read any of it, though, and I'm not sure how to scroll up and down either, unfortunately. (lacking mouse function right now and I haven't figured out my keyboard command for scrolling in my terminal
[06:41] <bluelf1> wilee-nilee: I am not sure but , when I tried to edit grub 2 last time I think I saw nomodeset already, I will check again but if it is there what else should I look into ?
[06:41] <Jordan_U> !fr | liazine
[06:42] <wilee-nilee> bluelf1, nomodeset would not be there unless you put it there, this s a low graphic boot to get in and update, upgrade and check for drivers.
[06:43] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U The terminal I'm using is Konsole, if that helps at all.
[06:44] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: You can run "dmesg | less" to get a scrollable output. You can also run "dmesg | pastebinit" to post the output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com, and then you can post the link to the output here for us to look at.
[06:44] <bluelf1> wilee-nilee: OK, I have to reboot, I will tell you what happened. Thanks for help
[06:44] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: Pess the 'q' key to quit less.
[06:44] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U Is there anything I should worry about as far as information that could make me vulnerable in that error log?
[06:45] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: No.
[06:46] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U I don't have pastebinit installed and I don't have sudo access due to another issue :/
[06:47] <mkeirn89> I think I can find another way around it, sec...
[06:48] <Mrokii> Hello. How can I find and reclaim "lost" space on an HD? I had problems with one HD and deleted a backup-image from it (with the size of about 1 TB). Then I had to run fsck on it, which corrected problems... But now it seems the 1 TB are still claimed but the file is gone.
[06:48] <utfans05> Mrokii: you can try to use gparted on it and reformat that partition if there is no data that you want to keep on it
[06:48] <Jordan_U> Mrokii: Does this filesystem contain your root filesystem?
[06:49] <wilee-nilee> Mrokii, Is there a hidden trash?
[06:49] <Mrokii> utfans05: There is data on it and I need to use this HD to backup things.
[06:49] <Mrokii> Jordan_U: No, it's a backup-disk. It just contains data.
[06:49] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U Okay, I'm installing pastebinit
[06:50] <Mrokii> wilee-nilee: I'm not sure what you mean by hidden. There's a folder named ".Trash-1000", but it's only about 9.5 GB big.
[06:51] <subthalamus> wow, what happened with spambots?
[06:51] <Jordan_U> Mrokii: OK, then a "du -h /path/to/mountpoint" likely won't take too long (because there probably aren't too many files), to see if that matches close to the amount of used space that "df -h" reports for the FS>
[06:52] <wilee-nilee> Mrokii, A nffs, it can have a system volume information and recycle.bin folder
[06:52] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U On the brightside, I'm very good at navigating with just a keyboard now.
[06:52] <Prock> how can i make my sound system for all users
[06:53] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U http://paste.ubuntu.com/5653616
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> Morph4me: so nice that it highlights errors too! tnx again for the vim tip
[06:55] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: Do you know if suspend works reliably on this machine?
[06:55] <Morph4me> lotuspsychje : anytime
[06:56] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you mean :(
[06:56] <Mrokii>  wilee-nilee I don't see a cycle.bin folder
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> Morph4me: http://oi42.tinypic.com/2vt8hvq.jpg
[06:57] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: Have you tried to "sleep" this machine before?
[06:57] <Morph4me> nice
[06:57] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U No but shall I give it a whirl?
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> Morph4me: how does it know to pick up errors higlight?
[06:59] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: Yes. Just be aware that your computer may or may not fail to resume, so close any apps with important files open first.
[06:59] <Morph4me> well someone was thinking that designed it :P
[06:59] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U Thank you so much for all your help.
[06:59] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: (If it fails to resume you'll need to reboot the machine)
[06:59] <Mrokii> Jordan_U: What should I look for? There are still a lot of files on that disk and the list doesn't seem to be sorted by size.
[06:59] <Jordan_U> Mrokii: The last line of output should be a grant total.
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> Morph4me: you know colortail too?
[07:00] <Morph4me> nope
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> !info colortail | Morph4me
[07:00] <Jordan_U> Morph4me: Did the command finish and return you to a prompt?
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> Morph4me: i use it to colortail -f /var/log/syslog.1 in realtime, pretty nice aswell
[07:01] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U Mouse works, system rebooted just fine.
[07:01] <Mrokii> Jordan_U: Maybe I've found it. The second to last line says that the folder "lost+found" is 990G big.
[07:01] <Morph4me> ok  gotcha you have been tweaking lol
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> Morph4me: now my packages are complete tnx to you :p
[07:02] <Morph4me> yw , enjoy
[07:02] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U Well, not rebooted but returned from suspend. And that's much faster then rebooting! Thanks.
[07:04] <bluelf1> wilee-nilee: i added nomodeset and it booted to a blank screen
[07:04] <kulica> hi i think i am having isue  i have laptop whit i5 and nvidia 525m and i think it is having some problems like i see some flikering and wierd screens what to do
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> bluelf1, Not sure the graphic area is not my best, any history leading to this will help the channel.
[07:05] <bluelf1> wilee-nilee: is there a way to install and use old kernel ?
[07:06] <wilee-nilee> bluelf1, Can you choose any from the grub menu?
[07:06] <Jordan_U> mkeirn89: You're welcome. Though hopefully you can find a real solution rather than just a work around. Could you please file a bug report?
[07:06] <Jordan_U> !bug | mkeirn89
[07:06] <netlar> Ok, I think I screwed things up, I am getting the login screen but it is frozen, how can I fix that?
[07:07] <bluelf1> It has no old kernel listed I did a fresh ubuntu 13.02 install, I want to try with old kernels cause they used to work
[07:07] <mkeirn89> Jordan_U I could file like seven bug reports :) My sound doesn't work, I can't log into my Sudo User, my computer screen goes dark sometimes and takes a while to work.. heh.
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> netlar: describe frozen
[07:07] <wilee-nilee> bluelf1, Sounds like a graphic driver needed, identify this hardware, details are helpful.
[07:08] <netlar> It will boot up and get to the login screen and the keyboard or mouse will not work, the screen is frozen
[07:08] <bluelf1> wilee-nilee: is there a command to help me find this driver ?
[07:09] <wilee-nilee> bluelf1, lspci in the cli will identify numerous hardwares.
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> netlar: did you do a clean install or upgrade?
[07:09] <netlar> it is a clean install and was working before
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> netlar: working on previous ubuntu?
[07:09] <kulica> somone help me i have wierd grafick on my laptop toshiba l755-1c3 i have i5 cpu and 525m gpu
[07:10] <netlar> on this ubuntu 13.04
[07:10] <bluelf1> wilee-nilee: can you tell me how to boot to a cli ?
[07:10] <savagecroc> does anyone know what kworker is?
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> netlar: can you press f1 on the boot procedure to see whats happening?
[07:10] <netlar> lotuspsychje: I can try , hold on
[07:11] <savagecroc> i've got a process that's using up all of the CPU on our system
[07:11] <savagecroc> it's called kworker
[07:11] <Elderspy> savagecroc: Check this out, I think it's what you're looking for. http://goo.gl/DrXx0
[07:11] <utfans05> !kworker
[07:11] <Cub2> hmm
[07:12] <netlar> lotuspsychje: No, f1 does not do anything
[07:12] <netlar> lotuspsychje: how can I get the grub menu?
[07:12] <savagecroc> hmmmm reboot?
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> netlar: hold shift after post boot
[07:13] <netlar> ok
[07:13] <bluelf1> wilee-nilee: It detects the graphic card I guess, it says VGA compatibe controller ATI RV710/M92 obility Radeon 4530/4570/545v
[07:14] <netlar> lotuspsychje: ok I am in the grub menu
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> netlar: you can try a safe mode
[07:14] <netlar> lotuspsychje: i went into recovery mode
[07:15] <wilee-nilee> bluelf1, This thread might be helpful, again this is not my area really. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2141224
[07:15] <savagecroc> can someone explain to me what the kworker actually is?
[07:15] <netlar> lotuspsychje: I am in the recovery menu now
[07:16] <Elderspy> savageroc
[07:17] <savagecroc> Elderspy: i read the link.. i'm still confused ""kworker" is a placeholder process for kernel worker threads"
[07:17] <netlar> lotuspsychje: can I try to fix it from the menu?
[07:18] <savagecroc> kernel worker threads that do what?
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> netlar: you can try a safe boot or recovery
[07:18] <netlar> lotuspsychje: i am in the recovery menu
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> netlar: it will lead to to a grafix card test
[07:18] <savagecroc> how can if ind out what these kworker threads are actually doing
[07:19] <Ben65> savagecroc: have you googled "kworker" it explains it in the first link
[07:20] <savagecroc> Ben65: of course
[07:20] <savagecroc> This is a production server though.. it only runs a few services
[07:23] <netlar> lotuspsychje: that appeared to fix my problem
[07:24] <savagecroc> rebooting seems to have fixed the kworker issue :/ it really worries me as to what caused it.. it's never happened perviously
[07:24] <netlar> I do have a related question, If the system shuts down improperly does it need to go into recovery mode?
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> netlar: you might wanna check the logs too see what the problem was
[07:25] <netlar> ok
[07:29] <netlar> lotuspsychje: this all started because when I attach an external hard drive, it makes the boot up almost 3 min long
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> netlar: what brand and how many gig?
[07:30] <netlar> iomega and 350 gb
[07:30] <deepak> how to intall video calling software
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> netlar: you can run a test on the drive maybe, with testdisk or default disk tools on ubuntu
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> deepak: skype?
[07:31] <deepak> how
[07:31] <deepak> ?
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | netlar
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> deepak: goto skype website and download/install the .deb file
[07:32] <bazhang> !info skype partner | deepak
[07:32] <bazhang> deepak install from repos, not the website   <----- lotuspsychje
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> bazhang: ah tnx for that partner trigger
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> bazhang: users need to enable partners source right if they wanna install?
[07:34] <netlar> lotuspsychje: it is strange how it would mess up with the boot
[07:34] <bazhang> lotuspsychje, thats correct
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> netlar: i had same trouble with a 1TB wd long boot time
[07:35] <netlar> lotuspsychje: find a solution?
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> netlar: i formatted the 2nd 1tb after i installed ubuntu on main drive
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> netlar: but mine was attached sata, not external usb
[07:36] <netlar> lotuspsychje: I was thinking of reformatting it
[07:36] <netlar> it is in nfts format now
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> netlar: i think that would be a good idea, maybe do a tail -f /var/log/syslog.1 and plug in the drive
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> netlar: see what errors you might get on the drive when you attach
[07:38] <netlar> lotuspsychje: you mean during the boot process?
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> netlar: no you can do it right now if you want
[07:38] <netlar> ok
[07:41] <netlar> sorry still a noob, not sure how to run that command, it tells me no such file
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> netlar: browse to /var/log and type ls
[07:43] <netlar> done
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> netlar: maybe its syslog
[07:43] <cjae> http://askubuntu.com/questions/254479/make-firefox-only-use-gtk-theme-on-browser-chrome-but-ignore-on-websites                       super win
[07:43] <netlar> oh ok, yes i have a syslog
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> netlar: ok then tail -f /var/log/syslog
[07:43] <netlar> before i plug in the external drive?
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> netlar: that will grab realtime stuff on your system, then plugin your hd yes
[07:44] <helpame> does someone have l755-1c3 toshiba laptop i am having graphic problems i think it hes somthing to do whit having i5 and 525m gpu
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> helpame: what kind of graphic problems?
[07:44] <netlar> ok
[07:45] <helpame> lotuspsychje:  like some wierd flikering white screens for 1-2 secs and somtime it is kina blury
[07:45] <netlar> lotuspsychje: ok, did it, what am I looking for?
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> netlar: if you hd has issues or problem, it will show some errors
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> netlar: you might wanna try to copy some files on it
[07:46] <netlar> ok
[07:47] <BadElvis> hi ubunut channel
[07:47] <helpame> any help me?
[07:47] <BadElvis> whats ur problem?
[07:48] <helpame> graphic iz crazy
[07:49] <helpame> i5 and 525m nvidia
[07:49] <netlar> lotuspsychje: do not see any errors
[07:49] <helpame> on hdmi
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> netlar: well maybe scan the drive with testdisk, or default disk tools on ubuntu
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> netlar: or browse syslog to see previous hd errors
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> netlar: maybe some bad sectors on your hd
[07:51] <BadElvis> helpame: has it always been like that?
[07:51] <netlar> lotuspsychje: there was an airflow temp error on the disk, just says it failed in the past
[07:53] <netlar> lotuspsychje: maybe I should just reformat
[07:53] <helpame> i dont know on win7 it was normal  but my laptop felt and i broke lcd and hard died so i try booting only live usb i have i will try leater whit win7 live usb but  i need to download it first
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> netlar: yeah good idea, if you use the hd for ubuntu try ext2
[07:54] <netlar> lotuspsychje: I am in the disk utility and there are only two options
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> netlar: try smart data and test
[07:55] <netlar> 'Compatiable with all systems and devices (MBR/DOS)' and 'Compatiple with modern systems (GPT)'
[07:56] <netlar> lotuspsychje: Everything says it is ok, no errors
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> netlar: well you could mess with bios settings too, not booting other usb drives maybe
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> netlar: then try a reboot again with same drive attached
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> netlar: you know where the logs are now to check right :p
[07:58] <netlar> lotuspsychje: yes that is ok too, only boots from dvd drive and hard drive
[07:58] <netlar> Yes
[07:58] <netlar> you mean the boot logs?
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> netlar: or syslog
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> netlar: i would reformat the drive and see if the future brings more new errors
[07:59] <netlar> lotuspsychje: yes , so pick the the compatible with modern systems option?
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> netlar: if you need the hd for windows systems too yes, if only for your ubuntu choose ext2
[08:00] <netlar> ext2 is not an option in the disk utility
[08:00] <Ben65> why not ext4
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> yeah ext4 is what i meant
[08:01] <paulens> hello
[08:03] <paulens> is it possible to give the boot priority to windows instead of grub2? i want it to first boot to windows bootloader and then let me select which OS i want... with grub, dual booting is an awful pain in the ass
[08:03] <Ben65> you can select with grub
[08:04] <netlar> lotuspsychje: funny it will not let me reformat the disk
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> netlar: did you unmount the drive
[08:04] <paulens> Ben65: 1. when i select with grub, i need to select it 2nd time in windows bootloader (i have 2 versions of windows installed)
[08:04] <kerf> paulens, you want windows instead of grub2?
[08:04] <netlar> nope
[08:04] <paulens> yes, kerf
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> netlar: unmount hd first then format
[08:05] <Ben65> paulens: doesn't sound that hard
[08:05] <paulens> kerf: i want the windows boot loader, which lets you select OS
[08:05] <paulens> Ben65: 2. with grub, i need to select it EACH TIME i boot.
[08:06] <kerf> paulens, oh, I had made windows selected by default when booted, that sounds like something you could set in the grub conf file, though I am not experienced enough to solve that.
[08:06] <paulens> Ben65: with windows boot loader you can select the default OS without much effort
[08:06] <Ben65> paulens: you can make whatever you want the default in grub too
[08:06] <paulens> Ben65: that's too complicated for me xP
[08:06] <Ben65> yeah, if you give up before you try
[08:06] <paulens> Ben65: and i want to enjoy my 9 second boot into windows again... grub f***s that up..
[08:07] <kerf> paulens, so you boot, and then you want to boot again?
[08:07] <paulens> Ben65: i don't want grub. what's the problem? it's my personal choice.. i just asked..
[08:07] <Ben65> but you need grub for ubuntu to work
[08:07] <kerf> This ^
[08:07] <bazhang> paulens, no cursing here
[08:07] <paulens> Ben65: I DON'T WANT TO REMOVE IT
[08:07] <Ben65> chill
[08:07] <paulens> bazhang: is ******************* cursing? didn't know that...
[08:07] <bazhang> paulens, lose the caps as well
[08:07] <bazhang> paulens, Yes
[08:08] <lolgnu> bazhang: If you dont like my **** then you can **** my ****! :P
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> oO
[08:08] <paulens> kerf: i want to boot straight to windows boot loader and then select grub as one of the options
[08:08] <Ben65> why not just have grub load windows by default?
[08:08] <paulens> kerf: there should be a way to add grub to MBR...
[08:08] <kerf> I believe, now that you have grub, you no longer have windows boot loader.
[08:08] <paulens> Ben65: it's slow.
[08:09] <Ben65> set a 0 timeout
[08:09] <kerf> You can also set windows as default
[08:09] <paulens> kerf: i still have windows boot loader. when i select windows from grub, it boots into windows bootloader
[08:10] <kerf> paulens, welp, that's out of my expience.
[08:10] <paulens> Ben65: that was a REALLY dumb answer. i'm trying to make dual boot less effortful here, and you suggest 0 timeout... is it even POSSIBLE to dual boot with that?....
[08:10] <Ben65> have fun figuring it out
[08:10] <bazhang> paulens, yes it is.
[08:10] <Ben65> i don't need to be called dumb
[08:11] <Benkinooby> hi, i am using wondershaper (it's a bandwidth-limiter) but i need sudo to activate it. how and I make it available for my "normal" user?
[08:11] <bazhang> paulens, you want a windows solution; Grub is what Ubuntu offers. try ##windows and ask about chainloading
[08:11] <kerf> so, grub jumps past your windows bootloader and to a windows OS that you don't want to run, when "windows" is selected?
[08:11] <paulens> bazhang: and i will need to configure something each time i want to restart into windows..
[08:11] <bazhang> paulens, what you want is much more of a n effort and will Not be quicker
[08:11] <paulens> kerf: no i DO want to run windows boot loader
[08:12] <paulens> kerf: i want to completely skip grub, BUT, i need to add an option for it in the windows bootloader
[08:12] <bazhang> paulens, ask for help with that in ##windows , and yes it is possible, but not what we support here, thanks
[08:12] <Benkinooby> paulens: go to ##windows, beucase this is related to windows boot loader
[08:12] <paulens> bazhang: no, i want to give the windows boot loader the priority, and i'm 100% sure that it will boot windows more quickly..
[08:12] <bazhang> paulens, /join ##windows
[08:12] <Benkinooby> paulens: it will not
[08:13] <paulens> Benkinooby: it's related to grub, because i need to know where the grub files are lkocated
[08:13] <kerf> paulens, I disagree with grub being slower
[08:13] <paulens> kerf: dude, i mean it boots windows much slower....
[08:13] <Benkinooby> paulens: if you use grub, you will get grub->loads windows boot loader -> loads windows
[08:13] <bazhang> !grub2 | paulens then have a read
[08:13] <Benkinooby> paulens: so grub will chainload the windows loader
[08:14] <paulens> Benkinooby: if i use windows boot loader, i will get windows boot loader -> load windows
[08:14] <paulens> isn't that faster?
[08:14] <bazhang> paulens, lets not stop support here for an offtopic debate about which is "quicker"
[08:14] <kerf> Good point, bazhang
[08:14] <Benkinooby> paulens: jest, but not much and it is easier and safer to include windows to grub than vice versaq
[08:14] <paulens> agreed.
[08:14] <Benkinooby> *versa
[08:14] <bazhang> paulens, please read the grub2 links above and /join ##windows
[08:14] <bazhang> Benkinooby, lets get back to support please
[08:15] <paulens> bazhang: but you didn't answer, where are grub files located on my hard drive? i need to know that to add MBR...
[08:15] <bazhang> paulens, read the links I just gave you
[08:15] <Benkinooby> hi, i am using wondershaper (it's a bandwidth-limiter) but i need sudo to activate it. how and I make it available for my "normal" user?
[08:16] <paulens> bazhang: i don't think that answers my question...
[08:16] <bazhang> Benkinooby, is that similar to trickle? was it always needing sudo?
[08:16] <Benkinooby> bazhang: yes
[08:16] <chaotix> hello...  i am using ubuntu 12.10, and just want to change the color of highlighted things from orange to blue...  it used to be a lot easier,  but it is a bit more complicated now...  i think it is in the gtkrc file inside of the GTK2 folder of the theme you are using, could someone confirm that?  and maybe does someone know quite what needs to be changed in the gtkrc file(if that is it)?
[08:16] <bazhang> !info trickle
[08:16] <bazhang> ubottu, lag
[08:18] <Benkinooby> bazhang: i know about trickle - din'T know it was user-space... but afaik wondershaper as a lot more sophisticated and delivers "better" results (didn't test it though)
[08:18] <bazhang> Benkinooby, sorry , I was not aware that wondershaper needed sudo, let me check the manual for a moment
[08:20] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man8/wondershaper.8.html  seems it a script Benkinooby
[08:20] <bazhang> +s
[08:21] <Benkinooby> bazhang: yes i read that too... so i just go chmod on it?
[08:21] <chaotix> the appearence properties of gnome2 era ubuntu had a great configuration for customizing themes...  i wish with all my heart that will come back some day...  i am picking through gtkrc files with a fine tooth comb just to try to change the highlight color from orange to blue
[08:21] <chaotix> is there an easier way to do this??
[08:22] <Benkinooby> bazhang: i'd like to standard/recommended procedure to make sudo stuff non-sudo available... too often i used "workarounds" that made things worse :P
[08:22] <bazhang> Benkinooby, I'm wary about giving advice here as I have zero experience with this, perhaps someone else here and/or askubuntu.com ; apologies
[08:22] <bazhang> chaotix, isnt that in system setting now?
[08:22] <bazhang> augh system settings
[08:22] <chaotix> i will look
[08:23] <chaotix> bazhang, where in system settings?
[08:24] <chaotix> under appearance you can change theme, but not cuztomize one aspect of a theme such as the highlight color
[08:24] <chaotix> :(
[08:25] <kerf> Hello, I am using byobu, and I can't some of my keybindings are said to be "* used by X11*" and any complex keybindings (other than one key) do not work. What do I have to do to have byobu functional?  I am running Ubuntu server 12.04.
[08:25] <bazhang> chaotix, that has changed a lot since 12.10. are you on unity or gnome-shell; perhaps that has been outsourced to unity-tweak-tool or gnome-tweak-tool, let me check
[08:25] <paulens> so does anyone know where are grub files located?
[08:25] <bazhang> paulens, the grub2 links say very clearly
[08:26] <paulens> bazhang: no
[08:26] <bazhang> !grub2 | paulens have a read again
[08:26] <chaotix> bazhang, unity
[08:26] <chaotix> thanks, bazhang
[08:26] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2    <----- paulens this one in particular
[08:26] <chaotix> im on 12.10
[08:27] <bazhang> chaotix, I'll check in gnome-tweak-tool now, for 12.10 I dont know if there is a unity -tweak-tool yet
[08:27] <paulens> bazhang: those links are not what i need. i don't want to upgrade grub, i don't want to know how one grub is better than another, i just want to know the location of its files
[08:27] <bazhang> !find tweak quantal
[08:27] <paulens> bazhang: and which file is used to boot.
[08:29] <kerf> Hello, I am using byobu, and I can't some of my keybindings are said to be "* used by X11*" and any complex keybindings (other than one key) do not work. What do I have to do to have byobu functional?  I am running Ubuntu server 12.04.
[08:29] <cjae> !restricted-extras
[08:30] <MonkeyDust> kerf  server with a GUI?
[08:30] <Hexagonite> Hey, can anyone help me with Gnome Shell?
[08:30] <cjae> !info restricted-extras
[08:30] <kerf> MonkeyDust, text only :)
[08:30] <Aaruni> paulens: read here : http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html
[08:30] <cjae> is java included in restricted extras?
[08:30] <Hexagonite> Gnome Shell on Ubuntu help, anyone?
[08:30] <MonkeyDust> !ask | Hexagonite
[08:31] <bazhang> cjae, (its ure)
[08:31] <Hexagonite> How do I force software rendering on Gnome Shell?
[08:31] <kerf> !patience
[08:32] <cjae> bazhang: jre?
[08:32] <bazhang> !ure
[08:32] <bazhang> cjae, ^
[08:33] <Benkinooby> bazhang: thank you for your help though :)
[08:34] <Benkinooby> bazhang: if you install wondershaper, it will come with a README file <- very interesting lecture if you're in that kind of stuff :D
[08:34] <Mudslide> im kinda new to 13 why is my monitor an unkown device that cant go over 1024x768
[08:34] <bazhang> Benkinooby, nice catch, thanks
[08:34] <cjae> bazhang: not sure what you mean still
[08:34] <bazhang> !java | cjae have a read please
[08:35] <paulens> should i just copy all /boot folder?
[08:36] <c0lumb> How do I get more info about hardware crashes? It's just reboots itself for no reason without any crash reports.
[08:36] <cjae> bazhang: forget it
[08:36] <Mudslide> ?
[08:38] <Ben65> c0lumb: check the logs. they're located in /var/log
[08:38] <Mudslide> any ideas? im stuck probably just put windows back on it
[08:38] <piroska> sziasztok!
[08:38] <cjae> bazhang: trying to set paramaters to not kill mu ssd prematurely, one of the suggestions is "If you have installed Oracle Java, limit the write actions of the Java plugin: "
[08:38] <c0lumb> Ben65, Which one of them?
[08:39] <c0lumb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5653810/
[08:39] <Ben65> c0lumb: syslog, kern, Xorg, dmesg, etc
[08:39] <Benkinooby> cjae: how old is that source
[08:40] <Mudslide> so no help here ehh?
[08:40] <cjae> Benkinooby: what the webpage? prettu new
[08:40] <bazhang> Mudslide, give more details
[08:40] <Ben65> Mudslide: patience young padawan
[08:40] <Benkinooby> cjae: maybe you check in ##hardware - i heard that many ssd are able to cope with heavy fwrite on their own without any OS interaction
[08:40] <cjae> pretty*
[08:40] <bazhang> Mudslide, such minimal info there is no way to give help
[08:40] <bazhang> !details | Mudslide
[08:41] <cjae> Benkinooby: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd#TOC-Avoid-quick-wear:-reduce-write-actions
[08:41] <bazhang> Mudslide, what gpu, what driver, how installed, what version of ubuntu, et cetera
[08:41]  * cjae thinks this would benefit this channel some too
[08:43] <cjae> from page ,  By default, Ubuntu 13.04 uses the I/O scheduler Deadline
[08:43]  * cjae still doesnt know what ure is
[08:43] <cjae> ubuntu restricted extras?
[08:43] <Benkinooby> cjae: do you use firefox?
[08:43] <cjae> yes
[08:44] <Benkinooby> cjae: ok
[08:44] <cjae> Benkinooby: why
[08:44] <Benkinooby> cjae: as you already mentionedn, the scheduler of ubuntu 13 handles it very well
[08:44] <Benkinooby> cjae: what you are talking about orcale java only counts for firefox
[08:46] <Benkinooby> cjae: so what is your original question?
[08:46] <Benkinooby> cjae: because last i saw is that you wanted to install java Oo
[08:46] <cjae> wanted to know if this java jre or the plugin is installed in the restricted extras
[08:47] <cjae> do really pay attention to java too much
[08:47] <loganlee> !ot
[08:47] <cjae> dont*
[08:47] <cjae> um.....#restricted-extras then ?
[08:48] <Benkinooby> cjae: i don't see why you need to know here that jav stuff comes from
[08:48] <Aaruni> cjae: ok, java is installed, from !restricted extras
[08:49] <Benkinooby> cjae: all you need to do is to disbale the cache in firefox
[08:49] <ubuntu> verma
[08:50] <ra-fi> hi i have downloaded a cutecom terminal emulator from internet for at91sam9g35,i had read README file it shows to compile pass cmake by following make and make install,befor i did not use cmake can you tell me how to use that
[08:51] <savio> ra-fi: same as make
[08:52] <savio> !cmake
[08:53] <ra-fi> savio i have try to cross compile,i have used buildroot,with tht how can i pass cmake
[08:53] <Benkinooby> cjae: hm, not so easy to find that control panel Oo
[08:54] <Benkinooby> cjae: maybe jconsole?
[08:56] <cjae> Benkinooby: shouldnt the plugin be addons manager if it was installed?
[08:56] <savio> ra-fi: its ubuntu support channel I don't know anything about buildr
[08:56] <savio> Build root*
[08:56] <Benkinooby> cjae: don't know :P - your guess is as good as mine :D
[08:57] <savio> ra-fi: try asking in buildroot mailing list
[08:57] <cjae> ok
[08:58] <Benkinooby> cjae: aaaaah!
[08:58] <Benkinooby>  he is speaking og the firefox option!
[08:58] <cjae> yes
[08:58] <Benkinooby> cjae: foregt that java console
[08:58] <Benkinooby> domb me :) too many trees to see the forest :D
[08:59] <cjae> I thought they scrapped that
[08:59] <wilee-nilee> java console
[09:00] <cjae> thought I only ever saw on win boxes anyway, but I could be wrong
[09:00] <Benkinooby> cjae: hm, go to advanced
[09:00] <Benkinooby> cjae: and then the network tab
[09:00] <SpartanF32> Hallo!
[09:00] <SpartanF32> After i installed proprietary AMD driver following the procedure as in the Unofficial Ati website, (worked fine for 12.10) i had a lot of kwin crashes so rolled back to driver of the repos. Now, i see some effect as kickoff blur or windows miniature on panel aren't enabled while in the effects configuration setting they're are checked. Does Exist a way to re-enable all as a fresh install or i should install all again?
[09:00] <Benkinooby> cjae: there is stuff that comes close to it
[09:00] <michael87> Hey does anyone know how to set up mupen64? I'm tryying to help my friend set up a nintendo 64 emulator after I gave him linux
[09:00] <Benkinooby> cjae: also you can ask in #firefox (they are int he mozilla network)
[09:01] <Benkinooby> cjae: i think it would be worth the effort since firefox is quite write and cachse-happy :P
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> spartanf32: which release are you using and which gpu do you have?
[09:01] <cjae> Benkinooby: yes
[09:01] <Benkinooby> cjae: e.g currently my firefox has +70MB cached
[09:01] <Sarger001> Michael, install wine and then install project64 normally through the windows installer
[09:01] <Sarger001> project64 is less buggy than mupen64...
[09:02] <cjae> Benkinooby: I set to zero for now and see
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> cjae: you can move browser cache to tempfs if you want. it wipes after reboot and makes browsing faster
[09:02] <Benkinooby> cjae: either zero or you mka eit very big
[09:02] <MonkeyDust> !info zsnes | michael87 try this
[09:02] <Benkinooby> cjae: because if it is big, you don'T have to overwrite stuff
[09:02] <Sarger001> zsnes is SNES
[09:02] <Sarger001> not N64
[09:02] <Benkinooby> cjae: so you have to eraze lesse
[09:02] <cjae> right
[09:02] <Benkinooby> *less
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> michael87: playdeb may have it too. also try searching for a PPA
[09:03] <michael87> Sarger001, project 64 freezes on me :(. It works for the first few minuts but say on mario 64 slows down but a crapton after first painting
[09:03] <Benkinooby> cjae: but i think you'll be happier in #firefox with this if you want to digg deeper
[09:03] <cjae> ActionParsnip: ok thanks ill check it out
[09:03] <Sarger001> Ah
[09:03] <cjae> yes I will thanks
[09:03] <Sarger001> Hmm
[09:03] <Sarger001> try mupen64 through wine
[09:03] <Sarger001> that might work
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> michael87: have you tried different plugins for video etc
[09:04] <bazhang> !enter | Sarger001
[09:04] <Benkinooby> cjae: would be nice if ubuntu would do such settings automatically when it reconginzes a ssd ... als ssd will be more common in futre
[09:04] <Benkinooby> *future
[09:05] <michael87> ActionParsnip, I was actually considering looking up an opengl video plugin for projectg64. Haven't found it yet
[09:05] <Sarger001> Well, i'm going to be back soon after installing another linux distro
[09:05] <MonkeyDust> Sarger001  only ubuntu here
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> michael87: searching online should yield some
[09:06] <bazhang> !info mupen64plus | michael87
[09:06] <bazhang> theres no reason at all for wine in that
[09:06] <michael87> mupen64 on linux is all command line blah!
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> michael87: there are GUIs.....
[09:07] <bazhang> michael87, thats not correct
[09:07] <michael87> ActionParsnip, I installed a gui and it is not working with it. Cant find the library plug or some crap
[09:08] <MonkeyDust> i use Dosbox for old 1990's games
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> michael87: then get the library...
[09:08] <cjae> Benkinooby: im sure it will come, but yes, thats why I wanted to keep in this channel, was looking up about how windows defrag effected ssds, then I occured to me to check for ubuntu as well
[09:08] <cjae> Benkinooby: lots off ppl think its trivial too thou
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> michael87: have you seen this page: https://code.google.com/p/mupen64plus/wiki/ThirdPartyPlugins
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> cjae: ext4 doesnt suffer fragmentation like windows does
[09:10] <Church> ActionParsnip: false. it may suffer less, maybe.
[09:10] <MonkeyDust> cjae  defrag is not needed in linux
[09:10] <cjae> ActionParsnip: yes I nose, me loves the *nix fs so much more
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> church: its negligible to the point of insignificance. it does fragment a little
[09:11] <Ben65> depends how you use it. if you fill it to capacity and delete and add files, it will get fragmented
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> church: but the "like windows does" covers that, right?
[09:12] <Benkinooby> cjae: hm, you should also know that ssd use a different store location than they present to you
[09:12] <Benkinooby> cjae: so defraggging on a ssd is pointles
[09:12] <Benkinooby> cjae: no matter what OS
[09:12] <cjae> I have a cctv box that the records for 2 months on ext3 ,  its been running( not uptime) 8 yrs, replaced one hdd, very little issues
[09:13] <Benkinooby> cjae: the point is, that only for spinning hard disk a fragmented file takes more time to read... but a ssd does not care
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> benkinooby: with journalized filesystems, the gains are slim
[09:13] <michael87> ActionParsnip, I have m64py installed. I don't know what it means when it keeps asking  for library input required becuase I set everything else up. Rom source etc
[09:13] <Benkinooby> ActionParsnip: on ssd or common hdd?
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> benkinooby: ssd doesnt gain from defragging in any OS
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> michael87: do you have an input plugin selected?
[09:14] <Benkinooby> ActionParsnip: i know, that's what i said
[09:15] <Benkinooby> ActionParsnip: that's why i asked you to specify your comment - becuase it confused me
[09:15] <michael87> ActionParsnip, I don't have a library file for mupen :(
[09:15] <Benkinooby> cjae: main message for you: forget formatting on ssd
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> benkinooby: platter based drives need to rotate the platter to seek data, ssd doesnt have this due to zero moving parts
[09:15] <cjae> Benkinooby: yes I have read that
[09:16] <cjae> I was just seeing effect if someone else or os did
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> michael87: launch it from terminal, the output may help
[09:16] <Benkinooby> ActionParsnip: i said that too - look above ;)
[09:16] <cjae> Benkinooby: auslogics defrag lets you hide ssds thou, so .... sweet
[09:16] <michael87> ActionParsnip, launch m64py in terminal?
[09:17] <cjae> Benkinooby: is this the same thing? icedtea6-plugin
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> michael87: yes, the output may give clues
[09:17] <Benkinooby> cjae: i think it is the non-oracle java
[09:17] <cjae> right
[09:17] <Benkinooby> cjae: it DOES the same thing... but IS NOT the same thing :P
[09:18] <cjae> ok so where the heck do I find it
[09:18] <Benkinooby> cjae: so far what i have read is that the worries about ssd life time does not apply to modern ssds anymore
[09:18] <shadej> guys, do u any youtube video downloader for ubuntu please?
[09:18] <ran_> someone here knows about boot or shutdown problems with 13.04?
[09:19] <Benkinooby> shadej: do you use firefox?
[09:19] <gr8> hi. the thunderbird symbol shows 1 new message, even though there is no. what could be a reason for this?
[09:19] <bazhang> shadej, firefox addon video download helper, check the firefox addons page
[09:19] <SpartanF32> ActionParsnip, AMD 6650m on Raring
[09:19] <cjae> Benkinooby: ya well I already rma one before this one so I dont trust **** anymore
[09:20] <Benkinooby> cjae: what does rma mean?
[09:20] <cjae> Benkinooby: send back
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> spartanf32: should be ok with the proprietary driver
[09:20] <numberto> hi guys,  I have a problem with my page up button. When I press (fn) + PgUp nothing happens, while (fn)+PgUp always work normal. What might be the problem?
[09:20] <Benkinooby> cjae: after what period of time?
[09:21] <cjae> <months
[09:21] <cjae> month*
[09:21] <michael87> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/ukBrT0hE
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> numberto: does the system have a make and model?
[09:21] <cjae> boourns!
[09:21] <shadej> Benkinooby:  and bazhang thank u
[09:21] <shadej> yeah i am using firefox
[09:21] <numberto> ActionParsnip: what is make an model?
[09:21] <Benkinooby> shadej: then go with the addon bazhang recommended
[09:21] <shadej> Benkinooby: how is its speed?
[09:22] <numberto> ActionParsnip: oh, sorry I got it. Just a sec.
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> michael87: good, now you have something you can search for
[09:22] <Benkinooby> cjae: you know what - use conky. it can show you the write and read accesse on your ssd
[09:22] <crazybrain> how to download JDownloader?
[09:22] <Benkinooby> shadej: as fast as it can get
[09:22] <crazybrain> As the update process crashes my computer
[09:22] <crazybrain> coz it uses java
[09:22] <SpartanF32> ActionParsnip, of course, but when i installed them, at reboot i had kwin crashed and disabled all effcts. Now it seams to work with driver on repos but som effect apperas disabled and i don't know why..
[09:22] <bazhang> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/   shadej
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: you will need java, there is a PPA for it
[09:23] <Benkinooby> shadej:sue video-downlaod-helper and down-them-all - those two addons work very well together
[09:23] <bazhang> shadej, Try it and see
[09:23] <crazybrain> ActionParsnip: i have java but it is corrupt
[09:23] <walltender> Some one can help with this build error: http://pastebin.com/VWS2iKh6
[09:23] <Benkinooby> shadej: downloadhelper will make the movies downloadbale, and down them all will speed things up
[09:23] <crazybrain> crashes everytime
[09:23] <crazybrain> fuckin bitch
[09:23] <MonkeyDust> !find jdownloader | crazybrain
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: which java are you using?
[09:23] <cjae> Benkinooby: checking
[09:23] <ran_> i need some help about boot problems in xubuntu 13.04
[09:23] <bazhang> crazybrain, no cursing here
[09:23] <crazybrain> ohh sorry bazhang
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> !details | ran_
[09:24] <Benkinooby> cjae: i use conky to monitor hdd read and writey, ram usage, network traffic, process cpu consumpotion
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: which java are you using?
[09:24] <cjae> Benkinooby: I hated that episode
[09:24] <crazybrain> ActionParsnip: it says java 7
[09:24] <Benkinooby> cjae: ?
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: what is the output of: java -version
[09:24] <cjae> Benkinooby: http://wiki.conky.cc/index.php?title=Conky_Wiki
[09:25] <michael87> ActionParsnip, I'm a linux newb. And thats sayying something becuase I'm the only one that knows how to run everything on it where I live assumingly. so please what the hell do you mean by now I have something to search for?
[09:25] <cjae> thats the doll from trailerparkboys isnt it? Benkinooby
[09:25] <crazybrain> ActionParsnip: java version "1.7.0_09"
[09:25] <crazybrain> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea7 2.3.3) (7u9-2.3.3-0ubuntu1~12.10.1)
[09:25] <crazybrain> OpenJDK Server VM (build 23.2-b09, mixed mode)
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> michael87: the text you pastebinned....
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: tried sun java?
[09:26] <crazybrain> not yet
[09:26] <Benkinooby> cjae: don't knwo about that...
[09:26] <ran_> the boot is slower than 12.10, something like 50-60 seconds longer. what is interesting is that its not every boot. sometimes the boot is alright.
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: the webupd8 ppa has oracle java (was sun)
[09:26] <crazybrain> can you give me another alternative of jdownloader? ActionParsnip
[09:26] <michael87> ActionParsnip, yes I know. And I'm tired. I am not good at looking for what I need in command line. I only know a few sudo commands and that is about it
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: what do you want to acieve?
[09:27] <numberto> ActionParsnip: will this be sufficient http://pastie.org/7830163
[09:27] <crazybrain> I just want a software with functions like Internet Download Manager!!! ActionParsnip
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> michael87: this is nothing to do with "sudo commands", its simply using the web to find fixes. works in any OS
[09:27] <onebitxajax> hi to all
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: web browsers can download stuff. why do you need another app?
[09:28] <onebitxajax> i want to suggest this software http://en.djl-linux.org/ it's GPL open source and it's a game manager
[09:28] <SpartanF32> ActionParsnip, i'll try with a fresh install may something went wrong or maybe that there was the update to the kernel and instead off a rebbot i had also installed the driver.
[09:28] <onebitxajax> how can i ask ubuntu to put it in repo?
[09:28] <michael87> ActionParsnip, so what am I looking for? A core startup?
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> onebixajax: try http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[09:29] <MonkeyDust> onebitxajax  create a ppa and hope someone picks it up, in time, it may be accepted i the repos, after it has been screened and tested
[09:29] <onebitxajax> MonkeyDust: it's a python soft
[09:29] <crazybrain> ActionParsnip: like downloading video from youtube and manage downloads and all that
[09:29] <onebitxajax> ok i will try
[09:29] <bazhang> onebitxajax, or make a ppa
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> michael87: no, just copy that text you pastebinned and putbit in a search engine.
[09:29] <bazhang> !ppa > onebitxajax
[09:29] <crazybrain> I just need the idm version of Ubuntu,act
[09:29] <cjae> Benkinooby: thanks for help
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: there are video downloaders as addons and extensions for web browsers.
[09:30] <crazybrain> ActionParsnip: i just need download manager!!!!
[09:30] <ran_> ubottu: the boot is slower than 12.10, something like 50-60 seconds longer. what is interesting is that its not every boot. sometimes the boot is alright.
[09:30] <Benkinooby> cjae: you#re welcome
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: you can use uget for downloads if you want, or fatrat (which has a web GUI too) you can manage downloads
[09:31] <michael87> ActionParsnip, pastbinned all that into google and nothing shows up. lol with all that text I figured it wouldn't do jack
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: web browsers have download managers built in though
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> michael87: how did you figure that
[09:32] <name> hi
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> michael87: more text equals more results....its how searching works.
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> michael87: did you also try asking in #python
[09:33] <crazybrain> !thanks
[09:34] <michael87> ActionParsnip, I do not know anything about python
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> michael87: well, the issue is obviously python based so its an obvious thing to try, right? The guys in #python will know about python
[09:34] <michael87> ActionParsnip, I am a linux newb.  Any suggestions?
[09:36] <Ben65> Thermoelectric: try using 12.04 alternate cd to install
[09:36] <varshapg> ok
[09:36] <AndChat308009> !Upgrade
[09:36] <Benkinooby> Thermoelectric: try alternate installer
[09:36] <michael87> ActionParsnip, I am still learning here ok. I am not used to work arounds for everything. I've been a windows user for a long time. Just didn't like the direction they where going in
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> thermoelectric: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded
[09:36] <Benkinooby> Thermoelectric: at what point do they freeze?
[09:37] <Benkinooby> Thermoelectric: and what hardware?
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> michael87: giving a python app what it needs to run is not a work around
[09:37] <michael87> ActionParsnip, ok I'm heading to that room now. not sure if it logs me out of this. if so thanks for the help
[09:38] <Thermoelectric> I'll give the alternate installer a try. Benkinooby Just as the timezone part comes up. Gigabyte GA-P35-S3 with a Pentium D, Radeon X300 graphics card.
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> michael87: you can be in multiple channels
[09:38] <pooja> hi.
[09:38] <Thermoelectric> ActionParsnip, I have not, but I'm assuming I wouldn't have got 4 bad iso's.
[09:38] <AndChat308009> Hi
[09:38] <varshapg> hiii
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> thermoelectric: statidtically it is possible
[09:39] <pooja> hello
[09:39] <Thermoelectric> ActionParsnip, Linux Live USB creator said it's integrity was checked, if that means anything.
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> thermoelectric: did you download using torrents?
[09:39] <Thermoelectric> Web.
[09:39] <MonkeyDust> Thermoelectric  where on the web?
[09:39] <Thermoelectric> Through my ISP's mirror.
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> thermoelectric: did you try the boot option: radeon.nomodeset=1
[09:40] <Thermoelectric> http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/releases/12.04.2/
[09:40] <MonkeyDust> Thermoelectric  http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[09:41] <Thermoelectric> ActionParsnip, I didn't try that option.  I checked no opengl for project 64 supported and mupen64 is taking forever to figure out
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> michael87: may help http://www.playdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/13.04/?category=Emulator
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> michael87: cinnamon and lxde are desktop environments, not OSes
[09:48] <michael87> ActionParsnip, ok environment. Anyway thank you for the help
[09:50] <gilo> hello i have an hp Probook 4320s with ati mobility radeon 4500 hd and i'm trying to install the graphics driver, but when i install the driver the system freezes when it is trying to boot
[09:51] <Cua> gilo: the default driver does not work well for you?
[09:51] <Thermoelectric> ActionParsnip, needed radeon.modeset=1, that got further but still had the panic. Gonna try alternate.
[09:53] <gilo> no it drain the battery and the laptop becomes hot and the graphics are very poor when i use it on a fullhd tv screen with hdmi
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> gilo: you will need the legacy fglrx ppa
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> gilo: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[09:54] <freaky[t]> hi all. is there a possibility to install ubuntu alongside win8+bitlocker?
[09:55] <A1Recon> Hey anyone got their HDMI audio working ?? Im running 13.04 with an ATI card.
[09:55] <gilo> ok thx i will give it a try
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> freaky[t]: try resizing the ntfs in windows
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: which radeon chip?
[09:56] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: ATI 4350
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: did you use this: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[09:57] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: let me see
[09:59] <tabsterleir> Anyone know of a KDE Plasmoid that shows the output of a command?
[10:00] <ran_> i need help about slow boot in 13.04
[10:00] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: I tried the legacy 13.1 drivers and my Unity disappeared....so i am hesitant to try it again. I tried pavucontrol but for some reason it does not show the HDMI
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> ran_: run: dmesg | less
[10:03] <rajvi> Hi all, Could anyone explain me this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2144135
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> ran_: look for large gaps in the time on the left. use cursors to scroll up and down
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> rajvi: did you clean install with Raring?
[10:04] <vitimiti> is there any reason for gtk-recordmydesktop recording my windows broken in two, mouse not moving, etc?
[10:04] <rajvi> no
[10:04] <rajvi> its an upgrade
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> rajvi: how did you go from 32bit to 64bit then?
[10:05] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip:  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=69a6d1a786a2b262ccec921531c332a0af8dbcd6
[10:05] <rajvi> its from 12.10 32 bit to 13.04 32 bit
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> rajvi: read your own link....
[10:06] <ran_> ActionParsnip: i have done this, but i dont get the broblem.
[10:07] <ran_> somtimes the boot is OK, and sometimes it slow.
[10:07] <rajvi> i am sorry
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: if you run: alsamixer is the sound maxed and unmuted. if you hit F6 is the right device selected
[10:07] <rajvi> I wrote it incorrect
[10:07] <rajvi> i have to correct it
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> ran_: have you tested your RAM using memtest from Grub?
[10:08] <ran_> in 12.10 it was not happened.
[10:08] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip:  how do i run alsamixer?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: also do similar in the Sound app in dash
[10:08] <ran_> yes with memtest 86. and its ok
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: its a terminal command
[10:09] <rajvi> please help
[10:10] <ran_> i have tested the hard drive and its alright too.
[10:10] <cjae> where is conf file for grub now I have to look at windows chainload
[10:10] <cjae> cant boot windows
[10:11] <cjae> ran update-grub and grub-mkconfig, nothing
[10:11] <cjae> when I select windows 7 from grub just does a loop back to grub
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> rajvi: if you make a new user, is it ok?
[10:12] <rajvi> have tried yet
[10:12] <rajvi> let me try
[10:12] <rajvi> good idea
[10:12] <ran_> i did update-grub, but not grub-mkconfig
[10:13] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: selected the right device using F6  got these  Card: HDA ATI HDMI Chip: ATI R6xx HDMI Item: S/PDIF [Off]
[10:13] <cjae> brb
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: you'll have to play around, see what you can do
[10:19] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: I played around everything.. too bad. BTW I never had to install drivers for my GPU in Win7 but the HDMI audio still worked with 1920x1080 res..
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: so? its a different OS with completely different support
[10:21] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: I was just saying...
[10:21] <withnale> anyone know how to get unity switcher to show window names on all windows? I've tried the changes to ccsm text and scale addon plugins but they don't seem to work.
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: in the asus p1ah2 pundit, the hdmi doesnt work and can never work in windows, only works in linux
[10:26] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: What audio setup do u use??
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: regular 2.1 speakers in the audiojack on my soundcard. weird huh
[10:29] <cjae> ok I am stumped on how to make win7 boot from grub
[10:30] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: Since my HDMI is not working. I am currently using the DVI port on my TV with the audio jack plugged in.  Not weird, I used my Altec Lansing 2.1 before it broke down.
[10:30] <cjae> windows 7 was installed first on sda1
[10:30] <cjae> then ubuntu
[10:30] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: U stream media around ur network?
[10:30] <cjae> bootloader goes in circles when selecting windows 7 on dev/sda1
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> a1recon: via samba over lan and sftp over www
[10:32] <cjae> http://pastebin.com/AVd4k4Lu
[10:32] <cjae> ubuntu boots fine
[10:33] <neblaz> Hi, have a question on installing Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit on a Toshiba notebook which comes with an installed Windows 8 64-bit os.
[10:33] <cjae> from fdisk -l /dev/sda1   *        2048   164104191    82051072    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[10:34] <rusty0101> cjae: out of curiosity, where is grub installed? /dev/sda, or /dev/sda1?
[10:34] <neblaz> I created an Ubuntu DVD from the Ubuntu .iso file, when installation procedure starts, I get no option to install Ubuntu alongside the already installed OS (Windows 8). Why is that?
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> rusty0101  sda1 is a partition of sda
[10:35] <cjae> rusty0101: son of a I think that may be what I did wrong duruing install
[10:35] <cjae> rusty0101: how do I tell?
[10:36] <rusty0101> MonkeyDust: Yes, but the grub bootloader doesn't need to be installed in a partition, it can be loaded into the boot sector directly on /dev/sda.
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> neblaz  may be due to !uefi
[10:36] <neblaz> The installation procedure says, there is no OS detected on the HDD, but there is Windows 8 installed.
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> neblaz: have you chkdsk'd the NTFS?
[10:37] <neblaz> Well, in BIOS it is UEFI boot selected, Secure Boot is disabled, Windows 8 works fine, so Ubuntu 13.04. should install respectively see the Windows 8 installatino...
[10:38] <neblaz> I have not chkdsk the NTFS... why should that be done?
[10:38] <cjae> rusty0101: so does that matter where it is installed
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> neblaz: make sure that the file system is contiguous and error free. what else does chkdsk do?
[10:39] <neblaz> Do I have to install Ubuntu 13.04. from a DVD or can I use also an USB-Stick?
[10:40] <Neggy> Morning everyone.
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> neblaz  usb is fine
[10:40] <rusty0101> cjae: was checking. There is instructions on repairing a grub2 install at https:/help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing I'm not sure if it will tell you where grub2 was installed to begin with.
[10:41] <cjae> rusty0101: the reason it got mucked up, think anyways is that the installer was mislabeling the drives eg. /dev/sdx  so when it asked where to install bootloader, I selected the drive that has windows on it, but I believe I selected sda1 instead of just sda for example
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> neblaz: you can use unetbootin in windows using an MD5 tested ISO
[10:42] <cjae> rusty0101: but I have ran sudo grub-mkconfig as well
[10:42] <cjae> and then update-grub
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> neblaz: a chkdsk can be useful, you can also resize NTFS in Windows
[10:47] <A1Recon> Neggy: Good afternoon Neggy!
[10:47] <Neggy> AIRecon. Afternoon.
[10:48] <cjae> brb
[10:48] <ronalds> how safe is putting kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu 13.04
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> ronalds: define safety?
[10:49] <ronalds> usually I get bloated situation with ubuntu session messed
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> ronalds: its fine, you will duplicate a bit of functionality but you will get a KDE option in lightdm
[10:50] <ronalds> ok tnx
[10:52] <ronalds> I just discovered homerunnera app in wm
[10:52] <garage00> i'm planning to upgrade hardware, but saw some issues related with linux/uefi, should I assume all w8 laptops have uefi?
[10:52] <ronalds> yes
[10:52] <ronalds> uefi is win 8 thingy
[10:53] <garage00> despicable, so i have to pay extra for an extra headache i don't need.
[10:53] <ronalds> but all the laptops now comes with win 8
[10:53] <garage00> yes, that's really the problem
[10:54] <ronalds> ubuntu 13.04 probably boots there, but last time I tried 12.04.02 it didn't work
[10:54] <garage00> even when i don't use windows, they still find a way to make life miserable
[10:54] <nevyn> you can for now ignore uefi
[10:54] <garage00> nevyn: what do you mean?
[10:54] <ronalds> I just wanted to see how live cd would work on my friends newest beast laptop
[10:54] <hungry4gry> is it easy to get a usb mouse working/right click on the touchpad on an ASUS?
[10:54] <nevyn> it'll either work you hyou need to tweak a some bios settins to enable legacy bios mode
[10:54] <nevyn> bleh
[10:54] <Neggy> tasty UEFI.
[10:55] <nevyn> it'll either just work work when you disable secure boot or work in bios emulation mode.
[10:58] <nicekiwi> is anyone here?
[10:58] <anew> why is debian considered better than ubuntu ?
[10:59] <gordonjcp> nicekiwi: hundreds of people
[10:59] <KolakCC> You know, there are things called preferences?
[10:59] <gordonjcp> anew: lots of things are considered better than Ubuntu
[10:59] <gordonjcp> anew: Ubuntu is considered better than lots of things
[10:59] <nicekiwi> gordonjcp, phew
[10:59] <gordonjcp> anew: it depends what you're trying to do
[10:59] <garage00> beer is better than ubuntu, but only when i'm thirsty
[10:59] <brainwash> -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:00] <gordonjcp> brainwash: totally
[11:01] <nevyn> garage00: uefi is actually good it moves us to a 64bit init process rather than 8 which means faster booting parallel device init and all sorts of other good things
[11:01] <nevyn> it's been burned by secureboot.
[11:01] <gordonjcp> yup
[11:01] <gordonjcp> UEFI rocks
[11:01] <gordonjcp> everyone should be using UEFI
[11:01] <nevyn> and by broken implmentations.
[11:02] <gordonjcp> do not buy non-UEFI hardware
[11:02] <nevyn> and the complexity of it.
[11:02] <Serhad> Moin zusammen
[11:02] <Serhad> ich schaffe es nicht auf meinem Ubuntu server eine Subdomain zu konnektieren. Was mache ich falsch?
[11:02] <Serhad> Oh sorry
[11:02] <Serhad> english
[11:02] <Serhad> i stuck to connect my subdomain on my ubuntu server
[11:02] <garage00> thanks, i'm reading up more on it.  I'm just concerned i'd have to spend too much time trying to make it work, rather than having it work for me
[11:03] <Serhad> is there anynone to tell me my fail
[11:03] <hungry4gry> is it easy to get a usb mouse working/right click on the touchpad on an ASUS?
 do not buy non-UEFI hardware <--- can you even do that nowadays?
[11:03] <Cyber_Akuma> Without trying to on purpose I mean
[11:04] <gordonjcp> Cyber_Akuma: well quite
[11:05] <nevyn> garage00: as I say it'll either just work, work with secure boot turned off (this is what I'm doing now with 13.04) or work in legacy bios mode.
[11:05] <nevyn> if you buy a microsoft surface on the other hand.. life's a world of sucky hurt.
[11:06] <Cyber_Akuma> Although I was disappoined that my UEFI laptop's bios still looked like the oldschool ASCII bios design
[11:06] <nevyn> Cyber_Akuma: I wanted a rotating hypercube.
[11:06] <Cyber_Akuma> I thoght Ubuntu supported secure boot?
[11:06] <ogzy> does 13.04 server iso include LTSP installation at the menu?
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> hungry4gry: which model?
[11:06] <garage00> nevyn: the real concern is that my top prospect is a samsung :)
[11:06] <nevyn> it does. but I was trying to install debian... (long story still grumpy)
[11:06] <Cyber_Akuma> nevyn: At least something a little easier to navigate
[11:06] <nevyn> garage00: read mjg59's blog.
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> ogzy: i believe so
[11:07] <Cyber_Akuma> As well as change variables
[11:07] <ogzy> ActionParsnip: normally it comew via alternate cd and there is no alternate cd for 13.04
[11:07] <nevyn> Cyber_Akuma: and have to re-write all the documentation and field the support calls? you're mad
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> ogzy: could use the minimal iso
[11:08] <Cyber_Akuma> ... yeah, like secure boot dosen't do that already :P
[11:08] <Cyber_Akuma> And I said LIKE
[11:08] <ogzy> ActionParsnip: then i should install the packages manually?
[11:08] <nevyn> Cyber_Akuma: it's just a thing to find an turn off..
[11:08] <Cyber_Akuma> its not just a uefi version of an old bios, its a new one, just still ASCII and requiring random keys to change different variables
[11:08] <nevyn> it's no worse than hyperthreading on prescott..
[11:08] <Cyber_Akuma> Was more complicated on my laptop actually
[11:09] <Cyber_Akuma> Have to turn it off, turn ON legacy boot instead of uefi boot
[11:09] <Cyber_Akuma> reboot
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> ogzy: sure
[11:09] <Cyber_Akuma> THEN the options to allow booting from soething other than the internal hdd appear
[11:09] <Cyber_Akuma> That was the only way I coudl get the win7 disk to boot on the stupid thing to wipe out 8
[11:09] <nevyn> Cyber_Akuma: hrm on mine I can just press f12
[11:10] <nevyn> well that's sane actually
[11:10] <cairne> Cyber_Akuma: I had similiar issue on my laptop, linux installed easily with uefi, windows was a pain
[11:10] <nevyn> win7 can't boot in uefi
[11:10] <Cyber_Akuma> It still seems to want a secure boot comaptible os when secure boot is on if you boot from remocable media
[11:10] <Cyber_Akuma> cairne: same!
[11:10] <Cyber_Akuma> Ubuntu booted with secure boot enabled
[11:10] <Cyber_Akuma> win7 would not
[11:10] <nevyn> sure.
[11:10] <nevyn> it doesn't support it.
[11:10] <hungry4gry> ActionParsnip, sorry for the last reply.  Asus X55A
[11:10] <nevyn> only win8
[11:10] <nevyn> but that's wayyy ot for here.
[11:11] <hungry4gry> had to step outside
[11:11] <Cyber_Akuma> nevyn: My point is even if I disable it, I have to go through several more hoops to allow booting from remoable media that isn't secure boot
[11:11] <nevyn> yes. that's expected.
[11:11] <nevyn> well no
[11:11] <nevyn> you have to go through more hoops to boot media that isn't uefi enabled
[11:11] <Cyber_Akuma> If I disable secure boot, I can boot a non scure boot os.... from teh hdd
[11:12] <Cyber_Akuma> to boot from a non-secure boot disk or usb drive thogh, I had to go through several more hoops in the bios
[11:12] <Cyber_Akuma> Pretty sure win7 supports uefi
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> nevyn: according to wikipedia win7 can boot uefi
[11:12] <Cyber_Akuma> My desktop is uefi and win7 boots fine :P
[11:12] <Cyber_Akuma> AS did ubuntu and mint
[11:13] <Cyber_Akuma> ... after I made them stop going nuts with my mouse
[11:13] <nevyn> only x86_64/amd
[11:13] <Cyber_Akuma> Its a new desktop, its not 32bit :P
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> msg alis list *bodhi*
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> hungry4gry: try installing xfce4 package, then log off and log into the xfce session. Is it ok?
[11:14] <garage00> nevyn: thanks, for all the feedback, it'd take me several hours to figure these things on my own
[11:14] <cairne> Cyber_Akuma: I believe you have to jump through hoops to get uefi with win 7, I looked into it but its just not worth it. When I want windows which is rare, i just switch from uefi to csm mode in bios
[11:14] <earman_> what is ubuntu free talk channel?
[11:15] <nevyn> earman_: -discuss
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> earman_: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:15] <earman_> thanks
[11:15] <Cyber_Akuma> The only issue I had installing win7 on it was that it refused to isntall while the raid5 array was in place
[11:18] <brainwash> Mounting an encfs encrypted directory on top of an ecryptfs encrypted /home partition (ext4) causes some trouble in 13.04. There are no error while using encfs and fusermount -u, however an additional flush-ecryptfs- process appears after every logout and most likely keeps /home busy on shutdown. Orphaned inodes in the filesystem journal are the result. Any ideas?
[11:18] <surfzoid> Hi
[11:18] <surfzoid> is there an linux tool to convert dm_84 video?
[11:18] <Cyber_Akuma> yo
[11:19] <surfzoid> video from ET wolf games
[11:19] <surfzoid> yo Cyber :D
[11:19] <hungry4gry> ActionParsnip i'm on windows now.  i'll try exactly that thank you.
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> surfzoid  try winff, i'm not familiar with that format,tho
[11:19] <surfzoid> what is winff?
[11:20] <hungry4gry> what's an xfce session?  I'm literally brand new to linux
[11:20] <surfzoid> ho, winff is an FFmpeg tool, so it will not work :D
[11:20] <surfzoid> MonkeyDust: i already try mpeg or avi tool:D
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> surfzoid  then start from the beginning, what have you tried before you came here for help
[11:21] <cfhowlett> surfzoid, avconv should do it
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  ffmpeg uses avconv
[11:21] <earman_> how i search files in ubuntu one share?
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  winff uses avconv <-- correction
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> hungry4gry: its a different desktop environment without compiz stinking the place up
[11:21] <surfzoid> ctrl + f?
[11:22] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, as I undertand it, ffmpeg is deprecated (still fuctional however).  recommended package is avconv.
[11:22] <Cyber_Akuma> dm84 is the fourcc of the codec?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> or could use mencoder
[11:23] <Thermoelectric> Okay, I'll bite. The integrity test keeps failing for the Alternate installer I downloaded (from two different mirrors) on the same file, nic-pcmcia-modules blah. Am I doing something wrong?
[11:23] <hungry4gry> ActionParsnip, i don't know what compiz is, but i don't want a new desktop environment
[11:23] <hungry4gry> i just want my mouse to work
[11:23] <surfzoid> dm_84 is the extension file name
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Thermoelectric: try torrents
[11:23] <hungry4gry> i mean how does a usb mouse not work out of the box on ubuntu linux?
[11:23] <surfzoid> only the game it self can read it as i know
[11:23] <hungry4gry> this apparently is a persistent problem that has failed to be addressed over several major upgrades
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  true, about ffmpeg vs avconv, that is
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> hungry4gry: its to test. makes sure the button works. its called 'exploring the issue'
[11:24] <surfzoid> mencoder, avidemux dont reconize this file
[11:24] <surfzoid> vlc too
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> hungry4gry  never had issues with usb mice i ubuntu
[11:24] <Neggy> Me neither.
[11:25] <hungry4gry> a ton of people on the forums have.  and right click doesn't function on my touchpad. :-\
[11:25] <hungry4gry> is it control-click for a right click?
[11:25] <Cyber_Akuma> What game is this again? Just because it has a weird extension dosen't nessesairly mean the codec is custom
[11:25] <surfzoid> it is ET wolf
 i mean how does a usb mouse not work out of the box on ubuntu linux? <--- Mine didn't either
[11:25] <surfzoid> enmy teritory
[11:26] <earman_> why ubuntu one not opensource?
[11:26] <hungry4gry> monkeydust and neggy it appears it's 2 and 2.  50% of unbuntu users experience mouse failure.
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> earman_: what gives you that idea?
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> earman_  ask #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:27] <Neggy> So strange that a USB mouse would not work. A gneric USB driver should do it jus tlovely.
[11:27] <Neggy> just*
[11:27] <Cyber_Akuma> Youd think so, yeah
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> hungry4gry  well, that's odd
[11:27] <Cyber_Akuma> My mouse kept losing focus, or locking focus on one windows no matter what was on top of it or where I was clicking
[11:27] <earman_> ActionParsnip because i can share files with others use ubuntuone
[11:28] <Cyber_Akuma> Had to load an xorg script I got from someone to make the mouse behave
[11:28] <hungry4gry> MonkeyDust I may have to try a less odd linux distro ;)