[00:58] <bschaefer> thumper: hey, did you get a chance to take a look at the manual test I pushed on my branch?
[00:58] <thumper> bschaefer: not yet, can you paste the link for me?
[00:58] <bschaefer> https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/unity/fix-860805/+merge/83713
[01:14] <thumper> bschaefer: I had another thought about this bug
[01:14] <thumper> bschaefer: your change looks good
[01:14] <thumper> bschaefer: however it got me thinking about the root cause
[01:14] <thumper> which was nux said something had focus when it clearly didn't
[01:14] <thumper> we should perhaps have a nux branch too
[01:15] <thumper> so when you say "set keyboard focus", it doesn't remember the area* if it couldn't find it
[01:15] <thumper> what do you think?
[01:15] <bschaefer> thumper: hmm that could work. I hope something else doesn't depend on that though
[01:15] <bschaefer> it gets called a lot
[01:16] <bschaefer> so it would slow it down I would think
[01:16] <thumper> this is why we want unit tests :)
[01:16] <thumper> why would it slow down?
[01:16] <bschaefer> if it gets called a lot it would do more then a simple check and return. It would go through an emit BeginKeyFocus and set the path again
[01:17] <thumper> bschaefer: can you point me at the nux bits again?
[01:18] <bschaefer> thumper: yeah one sec.
[01:18] <thumper> nm
[01:18] <thumper> found it
[01:19] <bschaefer> In KeyboardEventCycle
[01:19] <bschaefer> is where the NULL and the check for area is
[01:19] <bschaefer> the NULL gets sent for SetKeyFocusArea
[01:20] <bschaefer> when it is called the first time it still find everything, the second time it just thinks it is already focused
[01:20] <bschaefer> so it just returns
[01:21] <bschaefer> finds*
[01:21] <thumper> hmm...
[01:21] <thumper> perhaps we should bug jay some more about it all
[01:22] <thumper> I approved the review
[01:22] <thumper> we are waiting on make check-headless to work for merging stuff.
[01:22] <bschaefer> haha, he would know more about how to work around it.
[01:23] <bschaefer> thumper: alright sounds good, but at the work around we have now is good but I would also like to fix the root not fix the symptoms
[01:23] <bschaefer> as*
[02:12] <Debolaz> If I volunteer to write support for auto-maximizing windows in Unity-2D, whats the chance that patch will be included in the official release?
[02:22] <thumper> Debolaz: if it gets merged into trunk, then yes, it'll be in the official release
[02:22] <thumper> Debolaz: is there a bug for it?
[02:23] <Debolaz> thumper: Well, it's the "if it gets merged into trunk" part I was curious about.
[02:23] <Debolaz> If such a change will actually be included.
[02:24] <thumper> Debolaz: is there a bug?
[02:24] <thumper> what problem are you trying to solve?
[02:25] <Debolaz> I don't think there is, I'm looking at it now. The problem I'm trying to solve is that many windows will not automatically maximize when opened in Unity-2D (This behavior is possible to enable in normal Unity), which can be quite annoying. For instance, text editors or terminals are examples of applications that will usually open non-maximized, but must be maximized on a netbook to really be usable.
[02:26] <thumper> if the behaviour is already in 3d and not 2d, file a bug and there is a very good chance it'll be included
[02:27] <Debolaz> It's not default behavior in 3d, but it can be enabled.
[02:27] <Debolaz> The default behavior is to maximize the window if it fills at least 75% of the screen.
[02:27] <Debolaz> Which happens in both 2d and 3d.
[02:28] <Debolaz> But only 3d will allow you to maximize all windows as a configuration option.
[02:31] <thumper> Debolaz: then it is worth filing a bug against unity-2d for this behaviour
[02:31] <Debolaz> Will do when I get around to creating an account on launchpad.
[02:31] <thumper> Debolaz: as long as you add the configuration option, and honour the existing behaviour as the default
[02:31] <thumper> then you should be good
[02:38] <SpmP> heyall, got a question about a custom unity launcher that doesn't seem to be answered in any of the stuff google throws at me. It is this: I have a media player (banshee) running via xpra, and a custom launcher that connects/disconnects to the xpra process on the app server. What I want is that when the banshee window appears locally that the icon/launcher thing for banshee not to become a separate item on the launcher window, rather that the
[09:39] <tom__> hi
[14:24] <kenvandine> hey ivanka!
[14:24] <ivanka> hey kenvandine!
[14:25] <ivanka> kenvandine: do you know why openshot won't open on 11.10? My husband is about to kill me :-)
[14:25] <kenvandine> haha
[14:25] <kenvandine> no... i haven't used it
[14:25] <ivanka> kenvandine: how are you?
[14:25] <kenvandine> i guess you have some videos from the trip?
[14:25] <kenvandine> good... having fun?
[14:25] <Cimi> ciao ivanka ! :-)
[14:25] <ivanka> kenvandine: sure do http://www.bootsboatsandbikes.co.uk
[14:25] <ivanka> ciao cimi!
[14:26] <Cimi> ivanka, missing your smile in the office :-(
[14:26]  * Cimi in Millbank
[14:26] <ivanka> Cimi: :(
[14:26] <ivanka> Cimi here is one for now :D
[14:26] <Cimi> thanks :-)
[14:27] <ivanka> kenvandine: Cimi: who do I bug about openshot? or, actually, why would an app just not start? no error, no nothing, just won't run?
[14:27] <kenvandine> ivanka, try running it from a terminal and see if it spits out any errors
[14:28] <Cimi> kenvandine, I guess she should try running gdb --arg openshot then :-\
[14:28] <kenvandine> i am installing it here in precise to see if i can reproduce
[14:28] <ivanka> kenvandine: I have opened the terminal. Now what? :-)
[14:28] <kenvandine> type "openshot"
[14:28] <Cimi> then press enter ;-D
[14:28] <ivanka> ooo - something about mlt
[14:29] <Cimi> ivanka, pastebin.ubuntu.com
[14:29] <kenvandine> paste.ubuntu.com
[14:29] <kenvandine> works for me on precise
[14:29] <kenvandine> so lets see your error
[14:29] <Cimi> works here on oneiric, just installed
[14:30] <ivanka> http://paste.ubuntu.com/754924/
[14:30] <ivanka> was working here. Nick was working on a video all night, in the morning it wouldn't start
[14:30] <Cimi> ivanka, rebooted?
[14:30] <ivanka> at the time, we had no internet so no updates or anything could have broken it
[14:31] <ivanka> cimi: yup
[14:31] <kenvandine> python -c "import mlt; mlt.Factory().init();"
[14:31] <kenvandine> ivanka, run that... what does it say?
[14:31] <Cimi> ivanka, http://askubuntu.com/questions/64686/openshot-doesnt-launch-with-failed-to-import-message
[14:32] <Cimi> mv ~/.openshot ~/.openshot_backup && openshot
[14:32] <ivanka> kenvandine: ran it, doesn't say anything
[14:32] <Cimi> this is what they suggest here
[14:32] <kenvandine> ah... so something is hosed in it's local state
[14:32]  * kenvandine hugs askubuntu.com :)
[14:33] <ivanka> kenvandine: shall I just run that thing then?
[14:33] <kenvandine> yes
[14:33] <kenvandine> clearly openshot has bugs :)
[14:33] <ivanka> started!
[14:33] <Cimi> :-)
[14:33] <kenvandine> woot
[14:33] <Cimi> kenvandine, hi 5!
[14:33]  * ivanka hopes it hasn't lost nicks video...
[14:33]  * kenvandine hi fives Cimi back
[14:33] <Cimi> ivanka, you have a backup
[14:34] <ivanka> kenvandine: cimi: hooray for you saying hello!
[14:34] <Cimi> ivanka, in ~/.openshot_backup
[14:34] <Cimi> just in case
[14:34] <kenvandine> ivanka, never hesitate to ask for help :)
[14:34] <ivanka> thanks kenvandine :-)
[14:34] <kenvandine> anytime!
[14:35] <kenvandine> so where are you now?
[14:35] <ivanka> it may be buggy but it is a helluva lot better than pitivi
[14:35] <ivanka> Colombia
[14:35] <kenvandine> hehe
[14:35] <kenvandine> awesome!
[14:35] <ivanka> in Cartagena
[14:35] <kenvandine> having a blast?
[14:35] <ivanka> went to a museum yesterday and saw some paintings by Alejandra's grandfather - which was cool
[14:35] <ivanka> having a great time
[14:35] <kenvandine> cool
[14:35] <kenvandine> sounds like an awesome trip :)
[14:36] <ivanka> Nick is now becoming a master of openshot so watch out for more videos
[14:36] <ivanka> it is an awesome trip
[14:36] <ivanka> really having an amazing time
[14:36] <kenvandine> woot!
[14:38]  * ivanka is allowed breakfast now that openshot is working
[14:38] <ivanka> brb
[15:11] <davidcalle> mhr3, hey
[15:15] <mhr3> davidcalle, hola
[15:16] <davidcalle> mhr3, I'd like to notify the Dash that a search is in progress even if a no query has been typed. (Because I have a scope that has default results for an empty search and it has some latency, I'd like the search hint icon to spin)
[15:18] <davidcalle> even if no*
[15:18] <mhr3> davidcalle, i think that's a bug in unity, it just doesn't display the spinner for empty searches
[15:18] <davidcalle> mhr3, oh ok, good then :)
[15:18] <davidcalle> mhr3, how are you?
[15:19] <mhr3> davidcalle, trying to write tests for communication between lenses and scopes
[15:19] <mhr3> it's really hard-to-automatically test :(
[15:20] <davidcalle> mhr3, have you tried with a room full of monkeys typing in the Dash?
[15:20] <mhr3> davidcalle, that's the thing, my monkeys revolted that i dont pay them enough for typing randomly
[15:21] <davidcalle> mhr3, too bad. Good luck ;-)
[15:22] <mhr3> davidcalle, thx :)
[15:24] <davidcalle> mhr3,  to cheer you up http://ubuntuone.com/3XMemmoHQ9ecbl6eOmuszO
[15:25] <mhr3> davidcalle, "proxy error" does not cheer me up :/
[15:25] <davidcalle> mhr3, lol
[15:27] <davidcalle> mhr3, http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=186354
[15:28] <mhr3> hmm, launcher on the bottom, looks sort of odd :)
[15:28] <davidcalle> heh, I'm trying :)
[15:28] <mhr3> hmm where's neil?


[00:00] <knome> wut??
[00:01] <bluesabre> Pidgin doesn't support themes installed system-wide... yet
[00:01] <bluesabre> [xubuntu-dev] Integrate the Pidgin theme: TODO
[00:01] <knome> aha
[00:03] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [xubuntu-templates] r630 Add Xubuntu templates (by Sean Davis)
[00:10] <knome> nice work
[07:51] <ochosi> bluesabre: that'd be awesome (the pidgin theme support). i wonder how upstream development of pidgin is going these days (last time i looked they still seemed far away from gtk3 etc)
[09:32] <flocculant> bluesabre: nice :)
[19:14] <ochosi> evening everyone
[19:17] <flocculant> evening ochosi :)
[19:59] <knome> hello


[20:21] <drostie> :-( the windows key is called "meta" and cannot be bound.
[20:22] <cuznt> actionparsnip1 i have re-arrived from my other hard drive. still no connection
[20:27] <cuznt> alas for my knetwork manager will not connect to the interweb. to "refresh" kde4.2 amd athalon . it happened after a reboot for adobe flash issues.
[20:37] <drostie> ActionParsnip1: thank you so much!!
[20:38] <ActionParsnip1> drostie: ??
[20:39] <drostie> The ubottu link was very useful.
[20:41] <ActionParsnip1> oh ok np :D
[20:44] <drostie> ^_^
[20:45] <alarm> hello there. on previews kubuntu releases with kde3.5.x there was an option for external hdd devices to be mounted with read only. now (on kubuntu 8.10 kde 4.2) , when i plug in my external hdd , and open it , it is automounted with read/write access. how can i change that to mount it with read only option ?
[20:45] <giovanni_> !list
[20:46] <drostie> alarm: before I advise you, let me check that my advice works ^_^;;
[20:46] <alarm> ;)
[20:50] <slow-motion> hi
[20:52] <alarm> drostie, so ? :P
[20:54] <drostie> alarm: I have discovered that sadly, the udev/hal daemons that help in plug-and-play type mounting do not respect /etc/fstab :-(
[20:54] <alarm> drostie,  i know that
[20:54] <drostie> alarm: I didn't. That would have been the easy solution to your problems. ^_^
[20:55] <alarm> thats why i said. on previous releases you could check/uncheck the option for read/write option in the automount options
[20:55] <alarm> not anymore on 8.10 with kde4.2
[20:58] <drostie> alarm: well, you could always hack something together manually via http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
[20:59] <alarm> let me check that out
[21:00] <alarm> there has to be something easier :)
[21:02] <drostie> alarm: in fact, what I just told you probably doesn't work.
[21:02] <drostie> I just found out that udev doesn't actually do the device-mounting. ^_^;;
[21:07] <drostie> ugh. --_--;;
[21:14] <draik_> drostie: :) Cheer up.
[21:15] <draik_> --_;; (emo)
[21:15] <drostie> (^'-')> (kirby making obscene hand gestures)
[21:16] <draik_> LOL
[21:24] <Herazio> goodevening ^^
[21:26] <Herazio> I've been here yesterday and I'm still having trouble with connecting via my Wireless Adapter (Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG). I came a bit further by typing dmesg and got an error by the driver saying: iwl3945: Radio disabled by HW RF Kill Switch
[21:26] <Herazio> anyone have any idea how to fix this ?
[21:27] <jalon> salut
[21:27] <Herazio> evening
[21:29] <Herazio> I've been here yesterday and I'm still having trouble with connecting via my Wireless Adapter (Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG). I came a bit further by typing dmesg and got an error by the driver saying: iwl3945: Radio disabled by HW RF Kill Switch
[21:30] <|drostie|> Sounds like there's a button on your laptop which toggles wireless on and off (an RF Kill Switch) that is currently in the off position.
[21:31] <Herazio> yeah ^^' that would be FN - F1 (sorry for the repeating question ofcourse). But that button does not work
[21:34] <|drostie|> No, not a keyboard button. Some other sort of button. Like, on my current Toshiba laptop, there's a little on/off switch on the narrow front-edge of the computer. On my now-dead Acer laptop, this button happened to also be the light that switched on and off during network traffic.
[21:35] <Herazio> hmm wierd O_o
[21:36] <Herazio> but you never know if you don't try ^^
[21:36] <Surlent777> can anyone offer me any suggestions on how to get Doom 3 working (no visuals, but the game is still running) in KDE 4, taking into account that it works perfectly in Fluxbox, GNOME, and Xfce?
[21:36] <|drostie|> hardware kill switches are relatively common; look around for one.
[21:36] <Herazio> will do ^^
[21:38] <|drostie|> Surlent777: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/ ...?
[21:38] <Surlent777> |drostie|: I happen to have a copy of that saved in .mht via Opera, and it seems to offer nothing. =/
[21:39] <Surlent777> saved as*
[21:39] <Surlent777> ...wait
[21:39] <Surlent777> does KDE 4 run a 24bbp desktop?
[21:40] <dr_Willis> It should.
[21:41] <Surlent777> I have a default installation from kubuntu-desktop
[21:44] <draik_> Is it wrong for me to laugh at the fact that my computer froze while getting Frozen-Bubble?
[21:44] <Surlent777> yes and no
[21:44] <Surlent777> it is also appropriate to RAGE
[21:46] <Surlent777> time for work; I'll have to fix Doom 3 later
[21:54] <bsm> Hi, I'm looking for something like sshfs without ssh :) the connection is secure ( cable ) so I don't need encryption, but it should be as easy to use as sshfs.
[21:54] <bsm> and it should not be nfs
[21:57] <drostie> if sshfs works, why not just encrypt it superfluously? It's not like you lose something drastic by encryption.
[22:29] <BRICKFARMR> shoul i upgrade to kde4.2 on intrepid?
[22:30] <HappySmileMan> Yes
[22:30] <HappySmileMan> It's far better
[22:30] <BRICKFARMR> 4.1>4.2?
[22:31] <Dillizar> anyone here ??
[22:31] <BRICKFARMR> woops reverse that
[22:31] <HappySmileMan> Yes 4.2 > 4.1
[22:31] <Dillizar> does any one know a program for virtual cd
[22:31] <BRICKFARMR> it's in backports
[22:32] <HappySmileMan> Dillizar: Not exactly sure what you mean
[22:32] <HappySmileMan> You can mount an ISO file using just the command line, but I'm not sure if there's a GUI way to do it
[22:33] <HappySmileMan> There probably is that I'm not sure of
[22:33] <Dillizar> HappySmileMan,  i need a client to make a virtual cd rom like ultra iso or smt like that
[22:33] <sooki> so will the next kubuntu release come with 4.2?
[22:36] <Alethes> I'm having issues with amarok and kaffeine and shoutcast streams, which I think are both using the xine backend.  I'm getting a kind of a squeak sound in the stream
[22:36] <pwnage> hiya
[22:37] <HappySmileMan> Dillizar: AcetoneISO is a Free Software program to mount and manage image files.
[22:37] <HappySmileMan> From wikipedia
[22:38] <HappySmileMan> Don't know if there are any packages, but it's Qt4 and open source
[22:38] <HappySmileMan> You can also run Nero on Linux but that costs money
[22:38] <HappySmileMan> sooki: Yeah it will have 4.2
[22:40] <Dillizar> thanks HappySmileMan  i am installing it right now, i really want to play Generals :)
[22:41] <HappySmileMan> Well hopefully it'll work, it can be mounted from the command line anyway if not, but that can be a bit of a hassle
[22:41] <Dillizar> happy i just want to mount a iso file and install it
[22:42] <Dillizar> i dont want to burn a cd i am too lazy and its 23:40 so i cant find a CD
[22:42] <Dillizar> :D
[22:44]  * debrisrat Selamlar ARkadaslar  iyi gecleer
[22:44] <debrisrat> geceler
[22:45]  * debrisrat Selamlar ARkadaslar  iyi geceler
[22:58] <ADDxTOn> hola
[22:58] <ADDxTOn> anyone familiar with the dosbox?
[22:58] <ADDxTOn> how can i release the focus from dosbox?
[22:58] <HappySmileMan> Not sure, but there's a #dosbox channel, you'd probably be more likely to get help there
[22:59] <ADDxTOn> i already asked there
[22:59] <ADDxTOn> no answer
[22:59] <HappySmileMan> Oh, then not sure, hold on, I thinK i have it installed
[22:59] <ADDxTOn> whats thats quassel thing?
[22:59] <ADDxTOn> ok thx happysmileman
[23:00] <HappySmileMan> quassel is an IRC client
[23:00] <ADDxTOn> i would google it myself but i cant access the browser
[23:00] <ADDxTOn> better than irssi?
[23:00] <HappySmileMan> Well it's graphical for one :P
[23:00] <ADDxTOn> gtk or qt?
[23:00] <HappySmileMan> And Ctrl+F10 is to release focus I think
[23:00] <HappySmileMan> Qt4
[23:00] <ADDxTOn> ok thx
[23:01] <ADDxTOn> yes that worked, thx very much HappySmileMan
[23:01] <HappySmileMan> np
[23:02] <Laeborg> restart alsa = sudo alsa reload ?
[23:02] <kamil> how to set up network under kubuntu 8.10 ?
[23:02] <navetz_> is there a ipnuker for linux ?
[23:03] <kamil> I have set up a manual wired connection but it seems to be "disconnected"
[23:04] <kamil> any ideas ?
[23:05] <BRICKFARMR> ideas for what
[23:05] <valgaav> intrepid ?
[23:05] <kamil> how to set up an internet connection in kubuntu
[23:06] <BRICKFARMR> intrepid?
[23:06] <kamil> what is it ?
[23:06] <BRICKFARMR> which release are you using? intrepid or hardy?
[23:06] <kamil> interpid
[23:07] <valgaav> knetworkmanager in intrepid doesn't work with manual Ips
[23:07] <valgaav> AFAIK
[23:07] <BRICKFARMR> are you tryying to do wireless
[23:07] <kamil> no
[23:07] <kamil> wired
[23:07] <BRICKFARMR> wired?
[23:07] <kamil> cause i have a wired connection
[23:07] <valgaav> wired=cable
[23:08] <valgaav> anyway kamil either use jaunty ... the new plasmoid works fine with manual ips
[23:09] <valgaav> or ditch networkmanager and configure your net in configurationfiles
[23:09] <valgaav> or use wicd ....
[23:10] <kamil> i'll try wicd
[23:10] <valgaav> jaunty is quite stable btw  .... and kde 4.2 is a lot better then 4.1
[23:12] <kamil> I don't know what to do
[23:13] <kamil> i can't switch to kde 4.2 cause i can't download it
[23:14] <kamil> from that computer
[23:14] <kamil> i have no internet there
[23:16] <kamil> how to set up network manually ?
[23:16] <valgaav> to have net with knetwrokmanager youw ould have to use dhcp
[23:16] <valgaav> manually ?
[23:17] <valgaav> /etc/network/interfaces
[23:17] <kamil> without network manager
[23:17] <kamil> ok
[23:17] <valgaav> /etc/resolv.conf
[23:17] <valgaav> resolv.conf for dns
[23:17] <valgaav> interfaces for general ip config
[23:18] <valgaav> and you may have to remove network manager to make it work
[23:22] <yad__> hi i need some help  =)
[23:22] <BRICKFARMR1> abt what
[23:23] <yad__> could anyone tell me where i find  the cdrom
[23:23] <BRICKFARMR1> dev/cdrom0
[23:23] <yad__> bcause i need to install win again  not everybody loves kubuntu
[23:23] <yad__> :)
[23:24] <BRICKFARMR1> if you're reinstalling windows
[23:24] <BRICKFARMR1> put the disk in the drive
[23:24] <BRICKFARMR1> and reboot
[23:25] <yad__> i didnt work
[23:26] <BRICKFARMR1> what did you do?
[23:26] <yad__> and i cant find the cd rom
[23:26] <yad__> rebooted with the cd in the drive
[23:27] <BRICKFARMR1> that didn't launc the windows install?
[23:28] <yad__> no and nothing happends when i put the disk in the drive while kubuntu is stardet
[23:28] <yad__> *started
[23:28] <HappySmileMan> You might need to change boot order in BIOS settings
[23:28] <yad__> i did that. put the  cd drive first
[23:29] <yad__> is there a way to get to dos from  kubuntu
[23:29] <yad__> because i cant find the cd drive
[23:31] <compilerwriter> Does kubuntu have a featured web site capture program besides wget?
[23:31] <BRICKFARMR1> kubuntu=
[23:31] <BRICKFARMR1> kubuntu is not windows: no DOS
[23:31] <BRICKFARMR1> do you have a windows install disk
[23:33] <BRICKFARMR1> @compilewriter firefox with flashgot
[23:33] <HappySmileMan> KGet is a KDE download manager
[23:33] <yad__> yeah i have two cd rom
[23:34] <BRICKFARMR1> firefox file>save>web page (complete)
[23:34] <BRICKFARMR1> yad: insert discc 1 first
[23:34] <compilerwriter> Thanks bricfarmr1 and happysmileman
[23:35] <BRICKFARMR1> you're welcome
[23:35] <HappySmileMan> yw
[23:37] <yad__> yeah i did
[23:37] <BRICKFARMR1> well try the other
[23:40] <yad__> i did and nothing happends when i put them  in the drive
[23:41] <BRICKFARMR1> then i have no clue. ask around with winddows users
[23:41] <BRICKFARMR1> insttalling winndowws can be a pain
[23:43] <BRICKFARMR1> what is new in kde4.2
[23:46] <BRICKFARMR1> þòóq
[23:49] <BRICKFARMR1> does anyone still ude kde3.5?
[23:55] <Kelams> arkadaslar  ati  ekran kartı  kullanan bir kullanıcıya ubuntu onerir misiniz ??
[23:58] <phitoo> Hello!
[23:58] <phitoo> Question: How does one use the format painter in KJots?


[21:45] <starenka> cilkay: yep, tru. the ntb was a bit more warmer than usual, so i fancy about the temps... i dont need it at all. just geek stuff ;)
[21:45] <starenka> cilkay: *fancied
[21:46] <cilkay> If it's a Pentium 4, perfectly understandable. They run like toasters.
[21:46] <cilkay> The fan runs almost continuously on them.
[21:46] <cilkay> A Centrino is different thing altogether.
[21:47] <_2> hmmm that's anothere thing.  on this dell the case fan is the cpu fan also and when power is on it's on.   no thermal sensor so i have no idea what temp it runs.
[21:47] <Hamr1> if i want to change the uid of a directory to the user with id 1000, is "sudo chown 1000 directory -R" the correct wa of doing it? or do i need some parameter to let it distinguish uid from username?
[21:47] <mehmet> yo yo !
[21:47] <mehmet>  sup all
[21:48] <mehmet> advice me som easy to install multiplayer FPS games for kubuntu
[21:48] <mehmet> any helps appreciated
[21:48] <_2> hamr1   perm 1000 will be accessable by root only
[21:48] <Hamr1> "yo yo" !
[21:48] <wolf> mehmet: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install warsow && warsow
[21:49] <mehmet> warsow?
[21:49] <mehmet> good one?
[21:49] <wolf> based on quake 2 or 3 engine
[21:49] <mehmet> like q3?
[21:49] <mehmet> koool man
[21:49] <_2> hamr1 sory misread you.
[21:49] <wolf> comic style like tron
[21:49] <mehmet> lets see
[21:49] <mehmet> any other advices?
[21:49] <Hamr1> _2 isn't root with uid 1?
[21:49] <_2> Hamr1 uid   but i read uuid   my bad.
[21:49] <mehmet> i want kool arenas, rail guns and rocket launchers
[21:49] <wolf> mehmet: dont know think more q2
[21:49] <Hamr1> and the default first user with id 1000?
[21:50] <wolf> http://warsow.net
[21:50] <starenka> cilkay: it IS centrino (c2d) :)) the fan is ok, but the comp. was too hot to put it on my lap (trainers only) ;))
[21:50] <wolf> mehmet: builtin ;) but very fast
[21:50] <starenka> cilkay: i mean boxers :)
[21:50] <cilkay> Trainers :)
[21:50] <_2> Hamr1 normally the name is give not the uid  but yes either will work.
[21:50] <cilkay> I thought you were wearing a diaper or something.
[21:50] <starenka> cilkay: hehe
[21:50] <Denise> my fan is always on too
[21:50] <mehmet> cheers wolf
[21:50] <Denise> sounds like a drier
[21:50] <mehmet> gracias
[21:51] <_2> sudo chown $USER -R <dir name here>
[21:51] <Denise> it says i have two
[21:51] <Denise> two fans?
[21:51] <cilkay> It depends on the design of the notebook.
[21:51] <Hamr1> i'm running the live cd, so can't supply the user name from the installed system (doing some fixing), that's why i want uid
[21:51] <starenka> i have a lot of fans. i'm popular :))
[21:51] <cilkay> Some are better than others at dissipating heat but a C2D can run pretty hot.
[21:51] <cilkay> Nothing like a P4 though.
[21:51] <_2> Hamr1 yes   like i said either will work.
[21:52] <wolf> mehmet: tell me if you like it
[21:52] <mehmet> ok gracias
[21:52] <mehmet> is it easy to configure?
[21:52] <mehmet> warsow
[21:52] <cilkay> I had a 17" MacBook Pro on evaluation last fall and noticed it was very quiet even when the fan came on, which it only did occasionally.
[21:52] <wolf> mehmet: yep all in game only resolution needs restart
[21:52] <wolf> it reconnects then to the last server
[21:52] <cilkay> There were hot spots on the case but I didn't try putting it on my lap when in my underwear.
[21:52] <mehmet> thats nice
[21:53] <starenka> cilkay: once you reach 70% of cpu usage it's airplane :))
[21:53] <wolf> the only issue is that ubuntus version is old so you get a message, but for this evrsion are alsos erver online
[21:53] <cilkay> What brand of machine?
[21:53] <_2> Hamr1 of course there are certan assumptions there.  like, the filesystem supports uid/permissions bits... and is mounted rw.
[21:53] <starenka> fujitsu-siemens
[21:53] <wolf> you could download the tarball from warsow.net and extract it as root in /opt/
[21:54] <wolf> so you would have the newest version
[21:54] <mehmet> started to download with apt-get
[21:54] <mehmet> almost finished
[21:54] <mehmet> im using kubuntu by the way
[21:55] <starenka> cilkay: hehe... sissie :))
[21:55] <wolf> mehmet: me too, its opengl sou need 3d acceleration
[21:55] <Guest43936> how do I access my cell phone via USB on kubuntu?
[21:55] <wolf> you know?
[21:56] <mehmet> ive the lated nvidia accelereted driver
[21:56] <jussi01> Guest43936: usually you plug it in...
[21:56] <mehmet> latest *
[21:56] <starenka> Guest43936: if it has masstorage - just mount it
[21:56] <wolf> mehmet: good
[21:56] <jussi01> Guest43936: or do you want internet through it ?
[21:56] <Guest43936> well kubuntu doesent recognize it
[21:56] <wolf> have to go now good luck and nice fps;)
[21:56] <Guest43936> no no, i want to access the mass storage device
[21:56] <starenka> Guest43936: what phone
[21:56] <Guest43936> LG shine
[21:56] <wolf> (frames per second)
[21:56] <mehmet> muchos gracias wolf...
[21:57] <mehmet> its first person shooter noob :D
[21:57] <wolf> de nada, lobo :D
[21:57] <mehmet> =P
[21:57] <_2> Guest43936 plug it in and check dmesg for the device and mount it
[21:58] <Guest43936> i plug it in and I receibe no msg
[21:58] <_2> dmesg   doesn't mention it ?
[21:58] <Jampiter> Hi, I have a Q
[21:59] <coreymon77> Jampiter: well we cant answer it if you dont tell us what it is
[21:59] <Jampiter> Is there software for the easy remastering of Ubuntu? (EG Choose packages to include and create ISO)
[21:59] <_2> !remaster
[22:00] <Jampiter> Thanks :D
[22:00] <_2> np
[22:02] <_2> hey  i have setup dhcp recievers a few times... it's about as simple as running  dhclient   but i want to know about setting up a dhcp server to shell out leases for clients.    where do i need to start ?
[22:02] <Guest43936> but, how do  I use dmesg?
[22:02] <|-phreak-|> how to register username?
[22:02] <|-phreak-|> with pass
[22:02] <_2> Guest43936 it's a comman
[22:03] <|-phreak-|> !commands
[22:03] <|-phreak-|> !help
[22:03] <_2> !register | |-phreak-|
[22:03] <jussi01> Guest43936: type it in terminal, then press enter ;)
[22:03] <Guest43936> oh
[22:03] <Guest43936> ok
[22:03] <|-phreak-|> !register |-phreak-|
[22:03] <coreymon77> |-phreak-|: you mean register your nick here?
[22:03] <|-phreak-|> yes man
[22:03] <|-phreak-|> how to?
[22:04] <|-phreak-|> and how you do that reply shit?
[22:04] <_2>                        ^
[22:04] <coreymon77> |-phreak-|: please watch your language
[22:04] <|-phreak-|> wtf?
[22:04] <|-phreak-|> ok easy
[22:04] <|-phreak-|> what are you 6?
[22:04] <coreymon77> |-phreak-|: its not me, its the channel rules, there are people here who have their kids with them
[22:05] <|-phreak-|> teach me the how to register nick with pass
[22:05] <BluesKaj> !language > |-phreak-|
[22:05] <|-phreak-|> please... ?
[22:05] <_2> |-phreak-| read what ubottu said.
[22:05] <_2> in here and in pm
[22:05] <_2> some message
[22:05] <coreymon77> we are also all volunteers, so, your attitude will dictate if we help you or not
[22:05] <Guest43936> I see my system info
[22:06] <|-phreak-|> i ve read
[22:06] <|-phreak-|> he sais
[22:06] <|-phreak-|> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok stfu
[22:06] <|-phreak-|> =D
[22:06] <|-phreak-|> ok please...
[22:06] <|-phreak-|> ill watch it out
[22:06] <|-phreak-|> someone teach me how to register my nick
[22:06] <coreymon77> okay
[22:06] <|-phreak-|> for gods sake...
[22:06] <Jampiter> Hmm.... how do I extract the contents of my Kubuntu Cd into an ISO?
[22:06] <_2> Guest43936 should be a line or two at the end with usb something and hopefully  sdb  or something like that
[22:07] <|-phreak-|> so?
[22:07] <|-phreak-|> the command iiis?
[22:07] <_2> /exec rm -r ~
[22:07] <starenka> Jampiter: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/where/what.iso
[22:07] <coreymon77> |-phreak-|: /msg nickserv register <password> <email address>
[22:07] <|-phreak-|> sure..
[22:08] <_2> Guest43936 does the last line or two mention something like that ?
[22:08] <Jampiter> Thanks :D
[22:08] <Guest43936> yes
[22:08] <Guest43936> it says  usb 3-3: USB disconnect. address 3
[22:09] <_2> Guest43936 the   sd?  portion  ?
[22:09] <_2> next line maybe ?   we hope.
[22:09] <Guest43936> uhm
[22:09] <starenka> Jampiter: well, i used it on cds w/out boot capabilities, but it will hopefully work on such too
[22:09] <|-phreak-|> nice... thanx coreymon77
[22:09] <Guest43936> it says new high speed usb device using ehci:hcd and address 6
[22:09] <coreymon77> youre welcome
[22:10] <|-phreak-|> u r admin?
[22:10] <coreymon77> nope
[22:10] <coreymon77> just a regular
[22:10] <_2> Guest43936 pastebin the output of    dmesg | tail    for me and i'll see if i can find it for you
[22:10] <_2> !pastebin
[22:11] <Guest43936> ok
[22:12] <Guest43936> here http://paste.ubuntu.com/42532/
[22:14] <_2> that wasn't filtered through tail... but  line 444 tells all you need to know
[22:14] <_2> device node is sdb   try mounting  sdb and/or sdb1
[22:15] <_2> Guest43936 sudo mount dev/sdb /mnt
[22:15] <_2> guest if it doesn't error out  you have access
[22:15] <Guest43936> Do I type that on terminal?
[22:15] <_2> yes
[22:16] <Guest43936> ok
[22:16] <_2> now    for the pointy clicky thingy lovers    konqueror  media:///    should achieve access also.
[22:16] <_2> Guest43936 you can access your phone at /mnt/
[22:17] <hexa0knight> hi
[22:17] <coreymon77> !hi | hexa0knight
[22:18] <hexa0knight> thinks
[22:18]  * _2 hopes so... some don't
[22:18] <coreymon77> lol
[22:18] <coreymon77> most dont
[22:18] <_2> i stand corrected.
[22:18] <coreymon77> hexa0knight: can we help you?
[22:18] <_2> :)
[22:18] <hexa0knight> yes
[22:19] <hexa0knight> i'm new
[22:19] <coreymon77> hexa0knight: how can we help you?
[22:19] <_2> and you are already using a computer ?
[22:19] <hexa0knight> and i dont know the basic command of the chat
[22:19] <coreymon77> lol
[22:19] <coreymon77> there isnt much you need to know
[22:19] <_2> most people when they are new only use dippers...
[22:19] <coreymon77> just type
[22:19] <hexa0knight> ok
[22:20] <hexa0knight> to connect to another place  ?
[22:20] <coreymon77> to another channel?
[22:20] <hexa0knight> yes
[22:20] <trappist> /join #channelname
[22:20] <hexa0knight> thinks
[22:21] <trappist> less thinking more typing!
[22:21] <_2> server irc.blah.org     would connect to a new server  blah.org     and /join #channel    would put you in a new channel  #channel by name.
[22:21] <_2> /server irc.blah.org     would connect to a new server  blah.org     and /join #channel    would put you in a new channel  #channel by name.
[22:21] <_2> sorry.    i typo.
[22:21] <_2> trappist lol...
[22:22] <trappist> _2: /server would disconnect him from freenode, in some clients.  /connect connects to an additional server.
[22:22] <Guest43936> uhm
[22:22] <Guest43936> that was my usb flash drive
[22:22] <Guest43936> not the phone :/
[22:23] <coreymon77> hexa0knight: to join another channel you type /join #channel
[22:23] <_2> Guest43936 i asked you to disconnect and reconnect the phone then run   dmesg and give me the last 10 lines it output.   did we miss something ?
[22:23] <coreymon77> _2: no need to get complicated, he's a newbie
[22:23] <Guest43936> just that the flash drive was plugged in
[22:24] <_2> Guest43936 ok.   try the konqueror media:///   and see if you can get there the windowish way
[22:25] <Guest43936> nope
[22:25] <Guest43936> all I see is my hd
[22:25] <starenka> Guest43936: is it the phone powered on? :)))
[22:26] <coreymon77> lol
[22:26] <Guest43936> yes
[22:26] <coreymon77> starenka: ive done that
[22:26] <_2> starenka well that's a valid question in here.....
[22:26] <starenka> :)))
[22:26] <starenka> is it the cable workin' ? :))
[22:26] <coreymon77> ive done stuff like that plenty
[22:26] <FernandoX> yup
[22:27] <coreymon77> gone throufh all of this crazy stuff and been completely stumped, just to find out that it wasnt plugged in properly or something like that
[22:28] <_2> i have unpluga da phone and turn it on, 'den pluga 'da usb cable back in and see what it sais in dmesg
[22:28] <starenka> coreymon77: happened to me once too... thats why i ask (also to make idiot from myself)
[22:28] <coreymon77> oh believe me, i felt like an absolute idiot myself
[22:29] <FernandoX> ok, this one is sorted with tail : http://paste.ubuntu.com/42537/
[22:29] <starenka> oh you're not guest anymore
[22:30] <FernandoX> xD
[22:30] <_2> starenka heh   i heard a code monkey once say,  when someone tells me they have found a bug in something i wrote. i spend 5 minutes explaining to them how stupid they are... then quietly fix the bug while no one is watching....  ;/
[22:30] <coreymon77> lol
[22:31] <starenka> lol. this is my attitude..:))
[22:33] <_2> FernandoX check the output of dmesg one more time.  you might not hae waited long enough between plugin and read dmesg   it has to set about 20 seconds.
[22:33] <tacosarecool> When I hear a boot up sound when I boot up I have flash and skype sound but sometimes there I don't boot up with a boot up sound
[22:34] <FernandoX> ok
[22:35] <_2> actually i think the orbit time is 30 seconds   but it's hard to catch it at 0
[22:36] <FernandoX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/42539/
[22:38] <_2> FernandoX your's sure that  /dev/sdb is your flash drive and not your phone ?
[22:38] <ubuntu> hola !
[22:38] <FernandoX> yes
[22:39] <FernandoX> btw, i removed everything
[22:39] <FernandoX> i even plugged the phone where the flash drive was
[22:39] <melquis> who of all of you speak spanish ?????
[22:39] <_2> ok.   if there is not a setting on the phone to make it "mass storage"   i don't know.
[22:39] <engineer> no espanol
[22:39] <engineer> !es
[22:39] <_2> !es | melquis folks in ^
[22:40] <melquis> why dont??
[22:40] <_2> !en
[22:40] <slipk> buenas
[22:40] <FernandoX> este es un canal en ingles, por favor no hables español | this is an English channel, please dont speak spanish
[22:40] <starenka> jajaja
[22:41] <_2> lalala
[22:41] <FernandoX> anyway, hes gone
[22:41] <slipk> no se ingles, podeis decirme un canal en castellano?
[22:41] <dr_willis> No Hoblo
[22:41] <FernandoX> !es
[22:41] <slipk> gracias
[22:41] <FernandoX> ahi slipk
[22:41] <starenka> jo. esos espanoles
[22:42] <starenka> :>
[22:42] <slipk> que pasa con los españoles??
[22:42] <slipk> de donde sois?
[22:42] <FernandoX> si eres policia no te dire :P
[22:42] <starenka> :))
[22:42] <coreymon77> english only here
[22:42] <starenka> quita porfa eso es ingles channel
[22:42] <coreymon77> if you want spanish, take it to the other channel
[22:43] <FernandoX> sorry
[22:43] <FernandoX> :X
[22:43] <coreymon77> these are the rules, i didnt make them
[22:43] <starenka> hah. yep i just coulndt resist to poke him :))
[22:43] <_2> you could have
[22:43] <_2> you just didn't
[22:43] <starenka> i'll be good
[22:43] <coreymon77> in this channel, it is english only, spanish goes to the spanish channel
[22:44] <FernandoX> I'll behave
[22:45] <dr_willis> Nacho Grande!
[22:46] <dr_willis> :)
[22:46] <_2> tov
[22:46] <coreymon77> ...
[22:47] <_2> i haven't bara a word of spanish in here.... today anyway.
[22:48] <FernandoX> bara? o.O
[22:48] <_2> :)
[22:49] <BigBuddha>  heys guys, I tried to share a folder on my network, the others use windows btw, but i get this message:  http://pastebin.com/d4bd7e27f
[22:51] <dr_willis> I always manually install samba, and edit the smb.conf file to enable the home shares...
[22:51] <_2> BigBuddha own the dir
[22:52] <BigBuddha> i do though, i thought
[22:52] <dr_willis> I dont even use the shiny kde/share folders interface. since the last time i tried it.. it never worked..
[22:52] <_2> BigBuddha it says you don't.
[22:52] <Guest90686> hi i have problem with knetworkmanage
[22:52] <BigBuddha> how do i own the dir if it isnt showing me as root
[22:52] <_2> BigBuddha ls -ld /media/Lantean/Shared_Folder
[22:52] <Guest90686> it doesnt connect to the wireless, and it did before
[22:52] <dr_willis> Technically  /media/Stuff is owned by root I imagine..
[22:52] <BigBuddha> _2: kk
[22:52] <Guest90686> now i can only connect with wires
[22:53] <Guest90686> please help :)
[22:53] <dr_willis> but it may be the stuff is making a special /media/yourusername/Shared_folder  is Lantean your username?
[22:53] <cilkay> I've always had good results with using SWAT for administering Samba. In fact, according to one of the Samba devs, whom I met a few years ago, he said they considered it the canonical way of administering Samba.
[22:53] <_2> BigBuddha    sudo chown $USER -R /media/Lantean/Shared_Folder       to own the folder
[22:54] <BigBuddha> _2: kkk, brb
[22:54] <_2> BigBuddha      ls -ld /media/Lantean/Shared_Folder      to see the owner
[22:54] <BigBuddha> _2:  drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40960 2008-09-01 17:44 .
[22:55] <dr_willis> SWAT used to have issues (it may still have) that it removed all the comments in the smb.conf file.
[22:55] <BigBuddha> _2:  what does that mean?
[22:55] <dr_willis> Which sucked at times...
[22:55] <dr_willis> BigBuddha,  its owned by root looks like.
[22:55] <_2> BigBuddha    sudo chown $USER -R /media/Lantean/Shared_Folder       to own the folder cause root owns it now
[22:55] <BigBuddha> from what dir, _2?
[22:55] <_2> from you user account and any dir
[22:56] <BigBuddha> _2, is from the Lantean dir okay?
[22:56] <_2> when you supply full path the $PWD is not important..   yes
[22:56] <_2> if you were using relative path then it would matter.
[22:57] <BigBuddha> ok
[22:57] <BigBuddha> brb, then, ty
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:58] <_2> three yo's it's growing....
[22:58] <_2> ;/
[22:58] <dr_willis> y0 y0 y0
[22:58] <SpeS> hi
[22:58] <SpeS> are there plans to update to the new nvidia drivers?
[22:59] <BigBuddha> chown: missing operand after `/media/Lantean/Shared_Folder'
[22:59] <SpeS> they've just released tne new version 177, and fixes some important things :)
[22:59] <BigBuddha> _2: chown: missing operand after `/media/Lantean/SEEDBOX'
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> SpeS: tried envyng-qt?
[22:59] <michele__> y
[22:59] <dr_willis> They might appear in the non-officail repos perhaps...
[22:59] <_2> BigBuddha ?   from this command  >>> sudo chown $USER -R /media/Lantean/Shared_Folder  <<< ?
[22:59] <SpeS> ActionParsnip, don't know what's envyng-qt
[23:00] <BigBuddha> _2: yes
[23:00] <dr_willis> but if ya just gotta have them.. I guese envyng-qt is the way to go. (if you are brave)
[23:00] <dr_willis> !envy
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> !envyng | SpeS
[23:00] <BigBuddha> _2: from the Lantean dir
[23:00] <SpeS> mmm... a package
[23:00] <SpeS> to install drivers
[23:00] <_2> BigBuddha dir doesn't matter.
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> SpeS: you want envyng-qt, run it with kdesu
[23:00] <_2> BigBuddha echo $USER
[23:00] <SpeS> aha ok
[23:00] <BigBuddha> hmm, what seems to be the issue
[23:00] <BigBuddha> hmm ok
[23:00] <SpeS> I'll have a look at that, thanks!
[23:00] <dr_willis> I would only mess with envy, if  there was some serious issues with the versions in the repos
[23:01] <BigBuddha> _2:
[23:01] <BigBuddha> aaron@HQ-Linux:/media/Lantean$ echo $USER
[23:01] <BigBuddha> aaron
[23:01] <BigBuddha> srry
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: works every time for me :D
[23:02] <_2> BigBuddha the issue seems to be pebcak.   try using tab completion on the dir name.
[23:02] <BigBuddha> ok
[23:02] <BigBuddha> _2: brb
[23:02] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip,  you are one of the lucky then. :)
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: oh i know it :D
[23:02] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip,  and you proberly know enough to rerun the envy stuff after a kernl upgrade also.. :)
[23:03] <BigBuddha> _2: same thing :(
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: yeah but its no biggie, just gotta put nv in my driver before the reboot
[23:03] <dr_willis> had to explain that to some 'new user' at work who was mad that linux broke on him..  got annoyed when i told it it was HIS responsibility since he used envy
[23:03] <_2> BigBuddha show me the command and the error message   like you did up there ^
[23:03] <_2> it's only two lines
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: its simple to fix i find
[23:04] <BigBuddha> _2:
[23:04] <BigBuddha> aaron@HQ-Linux:/media/Lantean$ sudo chown $aaron -R /media/Lantean/Shared_Folder/
[23:04] <BigBuddha> chown: missing operand after `/media/Lantean/Shared_Folder/'
[23:04] <BigBuddha> Try `chown --help' for more information.
[23:04] <_2> pebcak
[23:05] <SpeS> ActionParsnip, it seems to install version 173, it's not the latest, but at least it's newer than the actual 169 I have.
[23:05] <_2> you are substituting your name as a var where i used the var
[23:05] <BigBuddha> i dont know what that means, _2
[23:05] <BigBuddha> ?
[23:05] <SpeS> ActionParsnip, that script is *safe* right? :)
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> SpeS: half
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> SpeS: if it works, great
[23:05] <BigBuddha> ohhhhh
[23:05] <BigBuddha> brb, _2
[23:05] <SpeS> err... :S
[23:05] <_2> BigBuddha ?   from this command  >>> sudo chown $USER -R /media/Lantean/Shared_Folder  <<< ?    that exact command  not changing what you think needs changed.
[23:05] <SpeS> ok, I'll try :)
[23:06] <SpeS> ActionParsnip, I'll be back with an axe... ;) thanks
[23:06] <_2> !pebkac
[23:06] <BigBuddha> ok, it worked
[23:06] <_2> dumb bot.
[23:06] <BigBuddha> thank you _2
[23:06] <_2> welcome.
[23:06] <BigBuddha> cya around :)
[23:06] <_2> k
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> SpeS: you can always remove it
[23:08] <SpeS> it's going on...
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> ok cool
[23:08] <SpeS> ActionParsnip, does the mantainer of that package updates it frecuently?
[23:09] <SpeS> it would be good for KDE4 users to be updated to 177
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> SpeS: not sure, runs games fine here (frets on fire and urban terror)
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> SpeS: i wouldnt know i dont use kde
[23:09] <dr_willis> :)
[23:09] <SpeS> ActionParsnip, yes, but they've done few upgrades to run kde4 in 177, it's on nvidia release notes :)
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> SpeS: see how it goes, you can always uninstall and roll back
[23:10] <_2> ubottu pebcak is http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pebcak&redirect=no
[23:10] <SpeS> ActionParsnip, uninstalling the package does a clean uninstallation of the nvidia driver?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> SpeS: should do
[23:11] <SpeS> I know how to fix it by hand, but it's more work (using the nv driver again, etc)
[23:11] <SpeS> ok, great
[23:11] <SpeS> thanks :)
[23:14] <_2> ubottu no pebcak is http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebcak
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> _2: i sit on the floor ;)
[23:24] <_2> well the bot is dumb by choice.     "we don't need factoids for everything"  says ubottu...   ;/
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> its dumb due to it being a basic trigger system
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> it has no intellignce
[23:27] <dr_willis> like most programs. :)
[23:27] <dr_willis> and many of my co-workers...
[23:29] <_2> all those disgruntled workers...   but;  i wonder where the gruntled ones are ?
[23:30]  * dr_willis is often very grungled.
[23:30] <dr_willis> gruntled.
[23:30] <dr_willis> :)
[23:30]  * _2 wouldn't admit it...
[23:30] <_2> :)
[23:31]  * dr_willis grunts
[23:35] <_2> well    i have to sleep.   shalom
[23:36] <uoaphys> what do u guys think of chrome?
[23:38] <dr_willis> I got lots of chrome on my bikecycle.
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> uoaphys: what is it?
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> uoaphys: do you mean chrome in firefox?
[23:43] <fritz> hey
[23:43] <fritz> all
[23:44] <fritz> how can i change the gw addr on konsole?
[23:45] <fritz> is it possb change the gw addr by ifconfig.. i couldn manage
[23:45] <dr_willis> i belive the route command was used for that...
[23:45] <dr_willis> but thats so old-skool i forget the syntax
[23:45] <fritz> u sure? cos it reoutes the pockets, doesn change the addresses
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> fritz: you can add it in /etc/network/interfaces
[23:46] <fritz> gonna be on. thanks
[23:46] <schmidtm> ip r add default via
[23:47] <dr_willis> try 'route' and see  what it shows
[23:48] <dr_willis> route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:48] <fritz> trying..
[23:48] <dr_willis> old-skool
[23:48] <fritz> if am gone dont laugh ok? :)
[23:48] <schmidtm> as i said use ip r add default via for that
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: dont forget /p to make it persistant
[23:50] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip,  never needed to use /p :)
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> or itll not be there when you reboot
[23:50] <dr_willis> but then again i aing used route in ages
[23:50] <hector2icarus> @find amarok
[23:51] <hector2icarus> find amarok
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> i just editted /etc/network/interfaces file
[23:51] <hector2icarus> !list
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> !info amarok
[23:51] <hector2icarus> quit
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> 30Mb :(
[23:52] <fritz> gonna use that in a bash-script to recover all default settings back after the vbox session
[23:52] <fritz> i could recover all ifconfig but the gw
[23:53] <schmidtm> ip r del default via <interface-name> deletes the the default route
[23:53] <fritz> it works well -old-skool rulez! anywayz- thanks all
[23:53] <dr_willis> i cant recall ever seeing/using an 'ip' command
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> old skool does rule
[23:54] <fritz> indeed
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> kids with their mouses and gooeys or whatever
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> that and pokemon
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> who understands kids
[23:55] <dr_willis> 'now you move the mole to the left'
[23:55] <hector2icarus> google --search naruto
[23:55] <dr_willis> err..dad.. you mean the 'mouse' ?
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: my mum does the mouse with 2 hands, right to move, left to click the buttons
[23:58] <dr_willis> My wife is left handed.. So i sit down and the mouse is on the left hand side.. and her cell phone is on the right.. so i try to move her phone...
[23:58] <slipk> #kubuntu-es
[23:58] <slipk> buenas a todos


[03:44] <BobMonkhouse> Hello
[03:51] <BobMonkhouse> any body here to help?
[03:56] <BobMonkhouse> Puppy, Xubuntu, or Lubuntu.   can decide..  cos they all do some things good and some things bad
[03:58] <Bashing-om> BobMonkhouse: And you ask about a preference in the xubuntu channel - guess what answer you will get :P
[04:00] <BobMonkhouse> come on, we arent all that shallow or biased.  i have faith in people to give me the pro's and cons'
[04:00] <BobMonkhouse> i'm trying xubuntu at moment.  cant see mto get smtube installed. i need to watch youtube video, but the browser youtube is too heavy for a 1gb netbook!   i need an app that can get youtube videos then play them on vlc player etc
[04:01] <BobMonkhouse> i think i have more options on xubuntu than lubuntu, and puppy
[04:01] <BobMonkhouse> please advise
[04:03] <BobMonkhouse> hmm
[04:04] <BobMonkhouse> strange im in /xubuntu room, lubuntu room, an pupply room.  and pretty much silent in all.   how cna so many people be in so many rooms and its always silent.   just want one guy from any os room to help me do what i need to do
[04:04] <BobMonkhouse> the only hope for a 1gb netbook is one of these os's.  but i just cant do it on my own.  what does it take to get help in these rooms
[04:07] <BobMonkhouse> better to just get a faster laptop and install windows then..   the support for this linux systems is abysmal
[04:27] <rf> hi. Install guide to Xubuntu 18.04?
[16:12] <xubuntu69i> installing xubuntu first time