[12:11] <mr_clark> How can I upgrade kde to 3.5.x easily?
[12:11] <Hawkwind> mr_clark: Add the correct repo to your sources.list
[12:11] <archangel_> I need some help anyone can. I am working on a friends pc (compaq Evo) trying to get him to make the switch to Kubuntu, I did install it for him, however I cant connect to the web
[12:11] <mr_clark> sorry. wrong channel.
[12:12] <mr_clark> I need a beer.
[12:12] <soulrider> archangel, what kind of connetion odes he have ?
[12:13] <archangel_> (using mine) cable etho
[12:14] <soulrider> so its like a pppoe connection right? :/
[12:14] <soulrider> hi SpAwN
[12:14] <archangel_> its registered and looks good under system settings
[12:14] <SpAwN> sup soulrider
[12:14] <archangel_> yeah, cable modem
[12:15] <soulrider> not pppoe then
[12:15] <soulrider> pppoe  is DSL
[12:15] <archangel_> oh, sorry
[12:15] <soulrider> i dont know how to configure cable modem, its not available in my country :P
[12:15] <soulrider> sorry :(
[12:15] <soulrider> maybe someone else can help you
[12:15] <archangel_> ahh
[12:15] <archangel_> thanx
[12:17] <archangel_> help
[12:17] <waspius> i have installed knemo but i cannot find how to add it on my panel..any help?
[12:17] <archangel_> help
[12:18] <D4rkly> anyone know where wine is installed ?
[12:19] <reddwolf> Does anyone know how i can get my system to boot up both linux and windows xp with out haveing to restart my machiine ever time
[12:19] <LouKall> quick question: how do i open a .rar?
[12:19] <D4rkly> vmware
[12:19] <reddwolf> i have linux on one hard drive ad xp on a another
[12:20] <archangel_> dont you can dude
[12:20] <archangel_> not on two drives
[12:21] <grothesk> LouKall: With ark or 'unrar e your.rar' on konsole.
[12:21] <reddwolf> i thought there would be some way to boot both and then just switch between the both
[12:22] <reddwolf> or is that on 1 hard drinve
[12:22] <reddwolf> *drive
[12:22] <archangel_> cool idea, but I'v only seen it ork on 1 drive
[12:23] <archangel_> sorry 4 the typos, holding my 4 month old
[12:23] <reddwolf> a friend of mine was teling there is some kind of os switching program ( thats ok)
[12:23] <archangel_> I just 2 minutes ago setup a dual boot
[12:24] <archangel_> but must restart
[12:24] <reddwolf> oh
[12:24] <reddwolf> some needs to come up with one that you don't need to reboot
[12:25] <archangel_> well, if its on one drve you can use them both together
[12:26] <reddwolf> how can i put kunbuto on the sam hard drive as my xp with out loosing data from the xp side
[12:27] <reddwolf> *same
[12:27] <archangel_> how big is your drive?
[12:27] <tobias> very simple i think
[12:27] <reddwolf> right now i have a 2 80 gigs and 1 160
[12:28] <reddwolf> 1 80 has xp and the other has linux
[12:28] <tobias> but my friend did it without me watching so i dont know the exact procedure, he made me a partition with the kubuntu install cd i think, 6gigs was more than enough he said :)
[12:28] <LouKall_> grothesk: it says unrar isnt a valid command
[12:30] <archangel_> if you want to split the drive in have it will work better (without risk of data loss) with a fresh install of windows and THEN install linux
[12:30] <archangel_> linux will automaticaly resize your partition
[12:30] <reddwolf> thats the thing my xp came on this computer
[12:31] <reddwolf> but i do have the back disk that i made from when i first started the xp up
[12:31] <archangel_> do you know how to install an os?
[12:32] <reddwolf> i normally run the install wizard
[12:32] <archangel_> both windows and linux is very simple
[12:32] <reddwolf> or let it auto play
[12:33] <archangel_> do you know how much of your drive is taken up?
[12:33] <archangel_> or used
[12:33] <reddwolf> not sure unless i reboot in to xp
[12:34] <reddwolf> but id you give me time i can cheak for ya
[12:34] <reddwolf> *if
[12:34] <SpAwN> hello all....i was goin to install xgl and then decided not to.....i added some xgl deb repos to my sources.list then did apt-get update then did apt-get dist-upgrade ...it installed some packges......then in the howto it said to do this "apt-get install libgl1-mesa libgl1-mesa-dri libglu1-mesa mesa-utils" ....eevery was good ......this is when i decided to not install xgl.....so i removed the xgl deb repos and went to uninstall some
[12:34] <SpAwN> of the things it said to install and then i get this : http://pastebin.ulteo.us/63 ...can anyone please help me resolve this...i realy dont want to reinstall kubuntu
 brb i'm going to cheak to see what is left over
[12:36] <archangel_> ok
[12:37] <archangel_> Hey folks, you need a 19" widescreen lcd
[12:37] <archangel_> itif everyone had one, it verywell could bring world peace
[12:37] <looktj> what better? kubuntu or ubuntu?
[12:38] <archangel_> kubuntu for me
[12:38] <archangel_> gnome sucks
[12:38] <archangel_> lol, but I'm bias
[12:38] <h3sp4wn> the latest gnome uses mono (i.e .NET - which definately is a dark path)
[12:39] <archangel_> cant do as much with it
[12:39] <looktj> so kubuntu?
[12:40] <Freddy2> simply try both.. gnome vs kde
[12:40] <archangel_> people use gnome, not cause they like it, but out of pitty
[12:40] <looktj> i have gnome
[12:40] <archangel_> try kde and see what you think
[12:40] <Freddy2> but in this channel is simple to know the answer for most people.. xD
[12:40] <looktj> commmand to install kde?
[12:40] <archangel_> judge yourself
[12:40] <h3sp4wn> then use e17
[12:41] <archangel_> I can only give you my opinion
[12:41] <excitatory> looktj: install the kubuntu-desktop package
[12:41] <excitatory> looktj: but wait..
[12:42] <looktj> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[12:42] <excitatory> looktj: from a command line, type, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[12:42] <excitatory> nah, use aptitude
[12:42] <archangel_> Freddy2: can you set up a cable modem connection?
[12:42] <excitatory> it's far easier to remove meta packages if you don't like it..but you will..it's far more useable than gnome.
[12:43] <Freddy2> archangel_: you have drivers for the cablemodem?
[12:43] <looktj> im installing it
[12:43] <looktj> thanks
[12:43] <looktj> after install, reboot correct?
[12:43] <archangel_> Freddy2: its in kubuntu, I have never needed to install them
[12:43] <guerrerocarlos> hey, somebody knows how to make static binaries with KDEVELOP ?
[12:43] <robzilla> is amarok included on the desktop cd and will it work when booting from cd?
[12:43] <excitatory> looktj: nope, just log out, then choose kde as your session
[12:43] <Freddy2> hmm i've never had one of them.. i have adsl with router
[12:44] <excitatory> robzilla: yes
[12:44] <archangel_> Freddy2: I just installed a dual boot system on a compaq evo
[12:44] <archangel_> Freddy2: and it has thrown me off, I have needed to 'set up' a connection
[12:44] <robzilla> excitatory: cheers
[12:44] <looktj> excitatory: oh ok, thanks for help
[12:45] <reddwolf> hello archangel i have 39.6 left on the hard drive that has xpalready on it
[12:45] <Freddy2> how do you connect to the cablemodem? usb? ethernet?
[12:45] <reddwolf> and thats in gb
[12:45] <archangel_> Freddy2: oops I mean I have never needed to set one up
[12:45] <looktj> sopport for kde is better in my opinion
[12:45] <archangel_> ethernet
[12:45] <looktj> support*
[12:45] <Freddy2> but it's a real modem, or internally acts like a router?
[12:45] <robzilla> so booting from a cd, i should be able to use a mac formatted ipod, seeing as we have hfs support?
[12:45] <excitatory> looktj: yea, no prob.  personally, i don't care for the 'look' of kubuntu at first glance.. but you can customize it so many ways..so please don't be turned off..but then again.. many people love how it looks by default..so..idk.. give it a shot.
[12:46] <waspius> does anyone know the command that cleans up your system from unneeded files??i think it goes something like sudo apt-get autocleanup or something
[12:46] <SpAwN> can anyone help me resolve this horrible problem?
[12:47] <archangel_> real modem connection to internal ethernet card
[12:47] <breaker> alguien habla espaol
[12:47] <excitatory> looktj: yea, and kde is far easier to customize.. also, if you change one thing, it affects the look and feel for all of your apps, which makes your system feel familiar and consistent.  and if you do need gtk apps, they look great in kde if you install the gtk2-engines-gtk-qt package.. whereas gnome has a hard time making qt apps look nice..
[12:47] <Freddy2> are you sure it's not a "cable-router"?
[12:47] <Freddy2> !es
[12:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:48] <archangel_> I dont have a router
[12:48] <archangel_> just a modem
[12:48] <Freddy2> so you need to use PPPoE? or PPPoA?
[12:48] <archangel_> no network
[12:49] <archangel_> hmm which one is dsl?
[12:49] <RawSushi> what's some good DVD burning software?
[12:49] <looktj> that's cool
[12:49] <reddwolf> phone
[12:49] <reddwolf> i'm over the phone
[12:49] <Freddy2> archangel_: wheren't you talking about "cable" modem? dsl now?
[12:50] <reddwolf> i'm not on a phone modem arroy
[12:50] <reddwolf> *sorry
[12:50] <Freddy2> but you have cable or dsl?
[12:50] <guerrerocarlos> ubotu: is it so obvius what our mother language isn't english :P LOL
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is it so obvius what our mother language isn't english :P LOL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <archangel_> no I wasnt sure if you knew what the cable modem ppp was, sorry
[12:51] <guerrerocarlos> aaaahh it a BOT, LOL
[12:51] <looktj> Select the desired default display manager
[12:51] <looktj> gdm or kdm?
[12:51] <archangel_> I was going to say whichever is dsl.... I need the oposite
[12:51] <Freddy2> i'm not in front of kubuntu.. i have it at work, so now i can't tell you exactly what to do with it
[12:52] <looktj> i go with kdm
[12:52] <reddwolf> me i have cabel
[12:52] <excitatory> looktj: either one works..
[12:52] <archangel_> crap
[12:52] <ubuntu> sup
[12:52] <archangel_> everything looks fine, I dont see a problem
[12:52] <reddwolf> angel did you get my message from when i loged back in
[12:53] <archangel_> no I didnt sorry dude
[12:53] <reddwolf> i have 39.6 gb left on the hard drive with xp on it
[12:54] <archangel_> ahh, you should be ok then
[12:54] <reddwolf> ok
[12:54] <reddwolf>  but would i lose the data that i already have though
[12:54] <archangel_> just pop in the kubuntu (or whatever) linux cd and reboot
[12:54] <reddwolf> if i put kubuntu on with it
[12:54] <archangel_> no you shouldnt    :o)
[12:55] <reddwolf> ok i will have to try that
[12:55] <cilkay> Hello. I'm installing on an IBM ThinkPad and notice I have the option of creating an IBM ThinkPad Hibernation filesystem. I have 512M of RAM. I presume I should specify 512M as the partition size. I'm being asked for a mount point. Does it matter what I specify? I was thinking of using /mnt/hibernate
[12:55] <JustTryingKubunt> Hey, i am VERY new to linux but just wanted to let everyone know im lovin it!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:55] <reddwolf> if you don't see me on for a bit thats what i'm doing
[12:55] <reddwolf> later folks
[12:55] <reddwolf> and thanks for you help angel
[12:56] <archangel_> sure....  linux will sugest what it thinks
[12:56] <nikkun> Anyone here know if i am runnign 32bit Kubuntu under a 64bit chip does the k7 kernel give me optimization or not?
[12:56] <archangel_> about the size and all
[12:56] <fritsch> nikkun: good question
[12:57] <nikkun> fritsch: do you know?
[12:57] <archangel_> just make sure your swap file is dowuble your ram
[12:57] <fritsch> nikkun: the devs are just debatting, to still only have -386 kernel version for edgy
[12:57] <archangel_> double
[12:57] <fritsch> nikkun: is it a Duo Core Processor?
[12:57] <nikkun> fritsch: Im running 32bit kubuntu under a Athlong 64 3000+
[12:58] <fritsch> nikkun: i always installed the -k7 image ;-) so it makes "psychological" difference at least
[12:58] <cilkay> archangel_: specifying double the swap space of RAM isn't a hard and fast rule. On low memory machines, you might want even more. On high memory machines, it would be pointless.
[12:58] <fritsch> nikkun: just try it: sudo apt-get install linux-image-k7 linux-headers-k7 linux-restricted-modules-k7
[12:58] <cilkay> On Windows that seems to be the general rule though.
[12:59] <fritsch> cilkay: n linux you say: at least Ram + Video Bios ;-)
[12:59] <nikkun> fritsch: im not worried about it crashing im just wondering if it will increase anything or if it will mearly make things worse
[12:59] <fritsch> cilkay: for using suspend to disk
[12:59] <nikkun> since i recompile most of kde
[12:59] <fritsch> nikkun: why?
[12:59] <cilkay> fritsch: why do you need double the RAM for suspend?
[12:59] <archangel_> true, but having a 80 gig hard drive I thought would put his pc in that catagory  cilkay
[12:59] <fritsch> cilkay: don`t need
[01:00] <fritsch> cilkay: just one time ram + Video Card Ram
[01:00] <fritsch> cilkay: this was the rule in earlier days, with suspend2 everthing changed ...
[01:00] <cilkay> fritsch: thanks
[01:00] <Hawkwind> Now days, if you have 512MB or more of RAM, then all you need is 512MB of swap.  If you have less than 512MB of RAM, then you should double it for your swap
[01:00] <nikkun> fritsch: cause i run on a laptop and i have seen more speed after recompiling it. At least i did when i used it with a Pentuim 4 3Ghz  but that one i knew i could use the i686 kernel
[01:01] <cilkay> There's a Pentium 4.3GHz?
[01:01] <fritsch> nikkun: you just did sudo apt-get -b package
[01:01] <fritsch> nikkun: ? (missing)
[01:01] <nikkun> fritsch: yah
[01:01] <looktj> hey back
[01:01] <fritsch> nikkun: this does not make sence ;-)
[01:01] <archangel_> 64 bit kernal is cool, but good luck on getting flash to work in your browser
[01:01] <nikkun> fritsch: wait what dosent?
[01:01] <fritsch> nikkun: because you did not Change important C Flags
[01:01] <looktj> the keyy reppeating iitself
[01:01] <looktj> ommg
[01:02] <Hawkwind> cilkay: He said a Pentium 4  3GHz box
[01:02] <fritsch> nikkun: the rebuilding is more ore less senceless
[01:02] <fritsch> nikkun: you have to optimize the C Flags in the packages
[01:02] <looktj> hellpp please
[01:02] <nikkun> fritsch: really cause it made a difference
[01:02] <jens> Hi everybody. I have just installed Ubuntu 6.06.1 + kubuntu-desktop after a SuSE upgrade 10.0 -> 10.1 failed miserably ... and I have a question: When I insert a CDROM KDE shows it in media:/ for a second and then it vanishes again. Any idea what could be going wrong?
[01:02] <fritsch> nikkun: for making use of you specific features
[01:02] <fritsch> nikkun: mmmh
[01:02] <looktj> what do i do?
[01:02] <cilkay> archangel_: can you run 32 bit Flash/browser combo?
[01:03] <nikkun> fritsch: i think jsut the kernel change made it faster when i recompiled? or does it not work that way?
[01:03] <fritsch> archangel_: you are using a chroot or?
[01:03] <fritsch> nikkun: no i don`t think so
[01:03] <fritsch> nikkun: but i f you know better? i can`t say exactly
[01:03] <archangel_> I was unable to run flash with my 64 bit install
[01:03] <looktj> helppp soomone jjeez
[01:04] <nikkun> fritsch: do you know of any good explinations of the C Flags?  since i remember messing with something like them in Gentoo when i tryied it
[01:04] <cilkay> Besides, Flash is not really well-supported on 32 bit Linux either. You can't play FLV files in Linux that have been encoded with AN32 (?), which have a dependency on Flash 9.
[01:04] <fritsch> nikkun: but in gentoo you  optimize the C Flags
[01:04] <archangel_> but its flawless with the 32 bit.
[01:04] <fritsch> nikkun: and there comes your speed
[01:04] <fritsch> archangel_: you could setup a 32 bit chroot
[01:04] <Hawkwind> archangel_: That's because flash isn't made for 64Bit
[01:04] <looktj> kkuubuntuuuu is reppppeating the kkeys i type
[01:04] <nikkun> fritsch: yah but mostly ti was just what cpu your computer had
[01:04] <Hawkwind> Flashplayer 9 will be available for Linux after the first of the year as well
[01:04] <archangel_> right
[01:04] <looktj> !keys
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <fritsch> nikkun: yes, you optimize for your cpu
[01:05] <Hawkwind> cilkay: Flash happens to be very well supported on 32Bit systems.  Has been for years
[01:05] <nikkun> fritsch: but doesnt installing the optimized kernel do that?
[01:05] <looktj> archangel: hellppp please
[01:05] <archangel_> right, but not the 64 bit
[01:05] <Hawkwind> cilkay: It's just since flashplayer 8 and higher came out is that there isn't support.  But flash 9 will be out right after the first of the year
[01:05] <looktj> !repeating keys
[01:05] <fritsch> nikkun: this kernel does not recompile your user apps
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repeating keys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <archangel_> are you on a wireless keyboard?
[01:06] <fritsch> nikkun: sorry, and don`t have an online link to the devel list
[01:06] <archangel_> lookj
[01:06] <fritsch> nikkun: perhaps you could ask in #kubuntu-devel
[01:06] <looktj> im on a uuusb kkkeybooard
[01:06] <nikkun> fritsch: ok thanks
[01:06] <looktj> and its not wirellless
[01:06] <fritsch> nikkun: if they know about big performance boost, with just recompiling, without changing sth.
[01:06] <archangel_> :o)
[01:06] <cilkay> Hawkwind: I spent hours "troubleshooting" why I couldn't play some FLV files I got from a videographer for a site I'm building only to find that the only thing "wrong" about them was that there was no player in Linux that could play them.
[01:06] <fritsch> nikkun: but i don`t think so
[01:07] <looktj> do i reboot??
[01:07] <cilkay> Hawkwind: unlikely anyone but I'm going to be hitting that site with Linux so it doesn't matter that much but it was annoying.
[01:07] <archangel_> I doubt it, check out the speed of your keys
[01:07] <archangel_> you knw how?
[01:07] <fritsch> me is quiet happy today ;-) installed an Asus A6V 6000 laptop and every peace of hardware is working
[01:07] <looktj> no
[01:07] <looktj> im on kde
[01:08] <fritsch> every piece *g*
[01:08] <archangel_> kde?
[01:08] <archangel_> cool
[01:08] <looktj> yea
[01:08] <archangel_> go to system  settings
[01:08] <archangel_> in the K menu
[01:08] <archangel_> dapper drake?
[01:09] <cozomo> drake dappar
[01:09] <looktj> noooow what do ii clllickk on
[01:09] <archangel_> keyboard
[01:10] <archangel_> middle left
[01:10] <archangel_> if your unsure of what setting is best, I can give you mine and you can judge from there
[01:11] <waspius> i want to play live radio from the internet...but when i click on the file which supports windows media player i get the error firefox does not know how to open this address because protocol (mms) is not associated with any program
[01:11] <archangel_> 660 msec (delay)           25.0/s (rate)
[01:11] <looktj> thats what mine iis
[01:12] <archangel_> then slow down your rate
[01:12] <looktj> ill do a reboot
[01:13] <looktj> i thhink some1  had this problem
[01:13] <archangel_> k
[01:14] <looktj> looking for shutdown button
[01:15] <archangel_> k menu
[01:15] <archangel_> then logout
[01:15] <looktj> thannnks for alll your help
[01:15] <archangel_> sure
[01:15] <archangel_> good luck
[01:16] <archangel_> waspius: I would suggest easyubuntu
[01:17] <waspius> ok
[01:17] <archangel_> #easyubuntu
[01:21] <archangel_> cilkay:  can you help me with my cable modem?
[01:22] <looktj> i put rate to 20.0/s
[01:22] <archangel_> or at least my connection?
[01:22] <archangel_> god deal you look better
[01:22] <archangel_> good
[01:22] <looktj> i like kde....startup programs while doesnt
[01:22] <looktj> gnome doesnt*
[01:23] <archangel_> right I like kde alot better
[01:25] <yonkeltron> if i have a packaging bug for a package but launchpad informs me to file it elsewhere, what do i do?
[01:25] <StrudelNinja____> ok stupid question I bet but this is my first program I want to install outside of a repo, and it came in a .run
[01:25] <StrudelNinja____> how do I install it?
[01:25] <yonkeltron> StrudelNinja____: make it exacutable and then run it from the command line.
[01:25] <yonkeltron> StrudelNinja____: i.e. chmod +x package.run; ./package.run
[01:25] <yonkeltron> StrudelNinja____: if you trust it.
[01:26] <yonkeltron> StrudelNinja____: if you don't, then don't install it.
[01:26] <yonkeltron> StrudelNinja____: also, you may need to use sudo
[01:26] <StrudelNinja____> k let me try
[01:26] <looktj> archangel_:how do i change my clock to 3:26 instead of 16:26?
[01:27] <archangel_> right click on the clock
[01:27] <looktj> k
[01:27] <archangel_> then date and time format
[01:27] <archangel_> then time and dates
[01:28] <archangel_> then under time format tab ........ select ph:mm:ss ampm
[01:29] <looktj> thanks
[01:29] <archangel_> sure
[01:30] <Web-kanotix747> Good day - anyone up for an upgrade question?
[01:30] <yonkeltron> sure
[01:31] <Web-kanotix747> I'd like to give 6.06 a try. I'm running Kanotix - debian/ked based. How much of muy existing 'home' directory is re-usable?
[01:31] <StrudelNinja____> alright I got the installer going but it says that it has no write permission to the directory it's trying to install to
[01:31] <Web-kanotix747> *KDE
[01:32] <yonkeltron> Web-kanotix747: interesting question.
[01:32] <yonkeltron> Web-kanotix747: i would tell you to save your docs and data. other than that, for the full 6.06 experience, give the default setup a try.
[01:33] <sorush20> hi guys is the apply setting missing from Date & Time Settings in Kubuntu ?
[01:33] <Web-kanotix747> A specific issue is Thunderbird. Will I be able to just point to it?
[01:33] <yonkeltron> Web-kanotix747: what issue?
[01:34] <sorush20> I keep setting the time settings in my kubuntu to uk british time using the auto server update.. but every reboot I loose it
[01:34] <Web-kanotix747> Would I be able to mingle 'home' directories as long as the names are unique - meaning having a single home for a dual boot?
 as long as you set permisions and umask accordingly
[01:35] <StrudelNinja____> Do I need to install as root if I'm trying to say, install a game in my /usr/game/ folder
[01:36] <Web-kanotix747> Sorry, the 'what issue' slipped by. Could I essentially use a single thunderbird directory under both distros on a dual boot.
[01:36] <excitatory> StrudelNinja____: yea, most likely since your user hopefully doesn't have write access to /usr
[01:36] <StrudelNinja____> k.
[01:36] <StrudelNinja____> how do I do that
[01:36] <excitatory> sudo
[01:36] <StrudelNinja____> and what if that didn't work
[01:36] <Web-kanotix747> thanks, drbreen. I guess I could (and probably will) just back everything up and try it. Just wondered if anyone else had.
[01:37] <excitatory> StrudelNinja____: then come talk to us.. btw.. what are you trying to install?
[01:37] <StrudelNinja____> Enemy Territory
[01:37] <excitatory> i don't know what that is..
[01:37] <excitatory> is it a linux game..or?
[01:38] <StrudelNinja____> Wolfenstein
[01:38] <StrudelNinja____> yeah
 just say why you could want that ?
[01:38] <excitatory> well..i'm sure it has install instructions, no?
[01:38] <StrudelNinja____> nope
[01:38] <StrudelNinja____> I'm running the installer but the directory it wants to install in won't work
[01:39] <excitatory> StrudelNinja____: where did you obtain this?
[01:39] <StrudelNinja____> splashdamage.com, the developer website
[01:39] <looktj> should i order KDE cds?
[01:40] <looktj> or keep gnome cds?
[01:40] <Web-kanotix747> drbreen - well - keeping a known distro alive until I'm sure I want to switch will make life easier if there are any issues.
 there will be issues if program versions differ. for sure.
[01:41] <excitatory> StrudelNinja____: run the installer, but insert the sudo command before the installer.  should work.
 btw what distro did you use before ?
[01:41] <excitatory> looktj: do you need cds?  you know you can download and burn the isos..  the cds are really only necessary if you want fancy packaging.
[01:41] <cilkay> archangel_: what about your cable modem?
[01:42] <D4rkly> does anyone know how i can add UDF support as some of my dvd's cant be read ?
[01:42] <looktj> i dont have any burning cds
[01:44] <Web-kanotix747> drbreen - I've used Centos as a server and knoppix as a desktop.I'm using kanotix as a desktop and server right now.
[01:44] <excitatory> looktj: well..what are you attempting to do.. i thought you had ubuntu and wanted to install kubuntu, no?
[01:44] <StrudelNinja____> I'm still getting the no write permission
 i'd explicitly say: DONT DO THIS. you will srew up your system bad (probably).
[01:45] <excitatory> StrudelNinja____: you're doing, sudo et-linux-2.60.x86.run ?
[01:45] <StrudelNinja____> yeah
[01:45] <Web-kanotix747> drbreen - Don't dual boot linux distros or try to share application data?
[01:46] <excitatory> hrm..well is there an option to install it to your home directory?
[01:46] <looktj> Excitatory: i am gonna order kde cds...since in case of reformat
[01:47] <StrudelNinja____> hhm so I closed the konsole and reopened it about 4 times and suddenly it worked
[01:48] <StrudelNinja____> o.O
[01:48] <excitatory> looktj: um.. alright..but dude, save yourself some trouble and buy some cdrs and burn the iso.
[01:48] <waspius> is there a way i can right click on a tar file and extract is straight away without needing to open ark all the time?and not from console
 dont try to share app data if the programs arent the same version
[01:48] <looktj> excitatory: i dont have any cd to burn to
[01:49] <excitatory> waspius: yea.. right click, Extract -- then choose where.
[01:49] <waspius> excitatory: i dont have thatr option
[01:49] <excitatory> looktj: and i'm telling you.. it would be faster to go to the store, buy some cdrs and then burn it than wait and pay for shipping.
[01:49] <excitatory> waspius: from konqueror?
[01:50] <excitatory> waspius: are you right clicking on the archive file?
[01:50] <looktj> k
[01:50] <waspius> excitatory: yes
[01:50] <excitatory> looktj: but i mean..go ahead, buy it if you feel you need to.
[01:51] <excitatory> waspius: um.. i'm not sure why..this has been a standard feature for a long time.. i'm assuming you're using kubuntu and dapper, correct?
[01:52] <Web-kanotix747> - drbreen:  yes crossing the streams is usually bad. I'm just going to set up a separate partition for 6.06 and play with it independently and move apps if I decide to stay.
[01:52] <waspius> excitatory: yes
[01:52] <Web-kanotix747> - drbreen:  Thanks for the discussion.  -bye.
[01:52] <waspius> excitatory: it says that i need to install konqueror intergration plugin
[01:52] <waspius> i think i know what to do
 nice to help
 have a nice day
[01:53] <waspius> excitatory: install kdeaddons
[01:53] <Web-kanotix747> drbreen: thanks, you too.
[01:54] <excitatory> waspius: yea.. i was going to say, it works for me: http://subfluous.net/images/extract.jpg
[01:55] <looktj> im dling the iso
[01:55] <haroldh> Can anyone help me with a mic problem
[01:56] <waspius> haroldh: u should just say your problem
[01:56] <haroldh> sorry, not use to chat rooms.
[01:57] <haroldh> for some reason, my mic won't work on my computer with kubuntu.
[01:57] <excitatory> haroldh: no worries..it's just repetitive and superfluous..and now you know :D
[01:57] <cilkay> Man the installer CD installs a lot of unnecessary stuff! Why in the world would I need Tamil fonts, e.g.?
[01:57] <haroldh> I'm not sure if I need to install anything for it to work..
[01:57] <cilkay> Now Thai fonts.
[01:58] <cilkay> I should probably have done a server installation and then installed kdebase.
[01:58] <excitatory> cilkay: it's not that much extra stuff..you can always remove it.. and there's always the minimal server install if you so choose..but believe me, it's far easier to have kubuntu setup your system, then remove stuff you don't need.
[01:59] <excitatory> haroldh: what/where are you trying to use your mic?
[01:59] <cilkay> I noticed that EVMS and LVM daemons were running and I don't use either one on the laptop I had installed on.
[01:59] <haroldh> I have it plugged into my laptop and I tried audacity and the mic isn't working with it..
[02:00] <haroldh> It was working on my desktop computer before I decided to use it on my laptop.
[02:00] <cilkay> haroldh: try your mic with some other app.
[02:00] <haroldh> Like Gizmo or something..
[02:01] <excitatory> haroldh: is it enabled in kmix?
[02:01] <haroldh> I do have it enabled in kmix..
[02:03] <excitatory> haroldh: and in the switches tab in kmix.. have you played with the settings there?
[02:03] <haroldh> I have not done anything in the switches area though..
[02:04] <ColonelKernel> Abattoir!  How do I do that?
[02:05] <ColonelKernel> Smack it and tell it NO
[02:06] <ColonelKernel> $help
[02:06] <shiv> but it keeps popping up
[02:06] <ColonelKernel> did you smack it hard enough?
[02:06] <ColonelKernel> :D
[02:06] <shiv> but it keeps popping upI did
[02:06] <ColonelKernel> lol
[02:06] <shiv> lol
[02:06] <ColonelKernel> I really don't know man, sorry
[02:06] <shiv> I did
[02:07] <haroldh> Well, I checked out the switches tab and made changes that was needed, but still no go..
[02:07] <pierreth> is it possible to make my desktop appears when i move the mouse in the bottom left corner?
[02:07] <otaku-san> heheh I highly doubt smacking will do it....hammers tho' thats different
[02:07] <ColonelKernel> :D
[02:07] <ColonelKernel> Use a large blunt object and beat it until it stops popping up
[02:08] <otaku-san> ....heheh always works for me...my poor poor box
[02:08] <ColonelKernel> Mine also
[02:08] <ColonelKernel> except the sound card :/
[02:08] <otaku-san> pierreth: like virtual desktops?
[02:09] <pierreth> otaku-san: i don't know, like atl-ctrl-d
[02:09] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, sounds so familiar....jeez how do I change Xchat from putting that dumb comma into a colon???
[02:09] <ColonelKernel> lol
[02:10] <ColonelKernel> I had the issue to, I just did it myself :D
[02:10] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: Good choice on the irc client tho
[02:10] <unix_infidel> does gvim not ship with color themes?
[02:10] <otaku-san> pierreth, hmmmm let me try that
[02:10] <unix_infidel> erm, rather vim-gnome
[02:10] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, Yes I like it...better en' Konversation...shorter name to...yeah I quess I'll just have to do it manually *dreads not being lazy*
[02:11] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: rofl... I'm sure there's a way to do it, just not familiar enough with the client.
[02:11] <ColonelKernel> anyone know if it's possible to configure a USB soundcard in Linux?  LTB...
[02:13] <otaku-san> pierreth, when I tried ctrl-alt-d all of my open windows were minimized...sorry I'm so unhelpful....hmmm can't go to ##linux cause this is a KDE thing
[02:13] <pierreth> otaku-san: this is what i want
[02:13] <ColonelKernel> pierreth: same result here
[02:13] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, I think I'll just live with it....the laziness is just to much for me
[02:14] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: roger that.
[02:14] <otaku-san> pierreth, so I did a good thing?  Wow,don't I feel special! ;)
[02:14] <ColonelKernel> abattoir: Hlo?
[02:14] <bouncing> I'm trying to figure out why kubuntu/x.org completely ignores my xorg.conf and decides on its own resolution. I have it configured for 1440x900 at specific horz/vert refresh rates, and the x server uses 1024x768, which is not in my config file at all.
[02:14] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: Lawlz
[02:15] <looktj> i hate the words lawlz
[02:15] <bouncing> It's really like, "oh, yeah, that's a cute x.org file. Thanks. I'll do this."
[02:15] <ColonelKernel> I do too. don't know why I used it. I apologize
[02:15] <looktj> :-P
[02:15] <ColonelKernel> :D
[02:15] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, lawlz?  Seems to be something bad...
[02:16] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: just a phonetic pronunciation of lolz
[02:16] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: Annoying IM slang
[02:16] <pierreth> what should i do?
[02:16] <pierreth> is it possible?
[02:16] <otaku-san> .....should of seen it...and I call myself l33+ inclined
[02:17] <otaku-san> pierreth, do what?  I thought you said ctrl-alt-d does what you want.....I'm confused
[02:18] <ColonelKernel> do I use the exec or sh command to execute a .run file?
[02:18] <ColonelKernel> pierreth: what is your desired outcome from CTRL+ALT+D
[02:18] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, sh if I'm not mistaken
[02:18] <ColonelKernel> thats what I thought :/
[02:18] <pierreth> otaku-san: it does what i want but i want to do the same by moving my mouse in the bottom left corner
[02:18] <ColonelKernel> dir
[02:18] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, it should be an .sh file tho'
[02:18] <ColonelKernel> well :/
[02:18] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: it is a .run file
[02:19] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: it's an ATI driver install
[02:19] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, ....thats for MSuck there is no .run in Linux....I thought...
[02:19] <otaku-san> !.run
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about run - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <ColonelKernel> !run
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about run - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <ColonelKernel> !sh
[02:20] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:20] <ColonelKernel> :/
[02:20] <ColonelKernel> !google .run
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google .run - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <otaku-san> pierreth, ok so you want windows to minimize when you move down to the bottom left corner?
[02:21] <ColonelKernel> pierreth: like hot corners in Window$?
[02:21] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, ubotu has failed us!!!
[02:21] <pierreth> ColonelKernel: no, like on the Mac with Expos
[02:21] <pierreth> Kompos is not so bad, almost like on the Mac :-)
[02:22] <otaku-san> I've touched only one M@c in my life.....sad...so sad
[02:22] <looktj> brb
[02:22] <ColonelKernel> nothing in the list of linux .extensions I found :/
[02:22] <ColonelKernel> puzzling
[02:23] <otaku-san> pierreth, but you still want stuff to minimize if you hit a certain corner?
[02:23] <pierreth> otaku-san: yes, this what i am asking
[02:24] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, .run is a Windoze thing...not Linux....so..I do not know
[02:24] <ColonelKernel> you mean I need wine to run it?
[02:24] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: I never heard of a .run file in windows :/
[02:24] <pierreth> i have the same on the Mac so I want it on kde too
[02:25] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: evidently the .run file is a binary :/
[02:25] <otaku-san> pierreth, ok now we're getting somewhere....ok let me tinker on KDE and see if I can find what your looking for...I think I saw something
[02:25] <ColonelKernel> !.sh
[02:25] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:25] <ColonelKernel> !dc
[02:25] <ubotu> dc: The GNU dc arbitrary precision reverse-polish calculator. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06-19ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 56 kB, installed size 200 kB
[02:26] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, hmmm. I could swear by it being a windoze thing....or maybe I'm thinking .exe!!!!
[02:26] <ColonelKernel> ya .exe = windowz
[02:26] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: so....... I have no clue what to do. I opened it with  Kate and bam everything, just need to execute it soemhow
[02:27] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, Ohhhhh I hate when that happens....
[02:27] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: yeah. I'll google around...
[02:28] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, Google is Linux users best friend
[02:29] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: indeed. I found something, what is XFree86 and x.org 6.8? one is a .rpm file :/
[02:29] <ColonelKernel> !xfree86
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfree86 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <ColonelKernel> !xfree
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <ColonelKernel> !.rpm
[02:29] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[02:30] <ColonelKernel> Damn
[02:31] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, No kidding....
[02:32] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: Know any good 3rd party ATI Drivers?
[02:33] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, Sadly no my friend....there probably is something....Google?    I am a dunce at CB so forgive me
[02:34] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: Lol, np :D.
[02:37] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, excuse me but whats up with joining ##linux??? ;)
[02:38] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: Hacker :D
[02:38] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: well for one thing, check this link:
[02:38] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_Drivers
[02:39] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: looks impossible to me
[02:39] <otaku-san> ColonelKernel, ok...checking
[02:39] <ColonelKernel> otaku-san: Roger.
[02:42] <SupremeBeing> otaku-san: I'm Colonel Kernel :D
[02:45] <otaku-san> SupremeBeing, I see
[02:45] <SupremeBeing> otaku-san: rather complex.
[02:45] <otaku-san> SupremeBeing, your SlicerDicer???
[02:45] <SupremeBeing> otaku-san: what?
[02:46] <SupremeBeing> otaku-san: I'm ColonelKernel
[02:46] <SupremeBeing> Aha!
[02:46] <SupremeBeing> otaku-san: I renamed the .run to a .sh and BOOM!
[02:47] <otaku-san> SupremeBeing, Coolness!!! how man?  did you run the file in root on a text editor and change the extension name?
[02:47] <SupremeBeing> otaku-san: Root in Konsole, extension name change, and yeah it's installed. Nice graphical installer too
[02:47] <SupremeBeing> otaku-san: Swish :D
[02:48] <cozomo> :D desu
[02:48] <otaku-san> SupremeBeing, No you 0wnz0r you b0x
[02:48] <SupremeBeing> otaku-san: Looool.
[02:48] <SupremeBeing> otaku-san: Just hope that 3d accel is on.  heard that it often is not by default :/
[02:49] <SupremeBeing> otaku-san: *crosses fingers*
[02:50] <otaku-san> SupremeBeing, hope so....can't you get into the config and change it?
[02:50] <Suiseiseki> iie desu
[02:50] <otaku-san> Suiseiseki, desu?  I thought kdesu...
[02:50] <Suiseiseki> k desu no desu
[02:51] <SupremeBeing> desu what the huh?
[02:52] <otaku-san> Jucato: thinks your right
[02:52] <otaku-san> ....desu OHHHHHHH!!!
[02:53] <Jucato> eheheh! an otaku who doesn't know "desu"? :-D
[02:53] <Suiseiseki> watashi wa nihon jin desu
[02:53] <Suiseiseki> desu desu desu desu desu desu
[02:53] <otaku-san> I see nihon...that mean Japan
[02:53] <Jucato> hai
[02:53] <Jucato> boku wa firipin jin desu
[02:54] <Suiseiseki> ano..... desu
[02:54] <Jucato> ^_^
[02:54] <Jucato> ok getting off topic here
[02:54] <Suiseiseki> ^_^
[02:54] <otaku-san> Jucato: I thought you spoke Japanese...
[02:54] <Jucato> otaku-san: nope. I don't ehehehe!
[02:55] <Suiseiseki> kekekekeke
[02:55] <Jucato> I just understand a few words... and say a few sentences
[02:55] <Jucato> I can imagine some Japanese Kubuntu users might have a bit of a problem saying/understanding 'kdesu'
[02:56] <SupremeBeing> what is kdesu?
[02:57] <Jucato> !kdesu
[02:57] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[02:57] <nick_> how do i get the greyed out boxes to show up in adept?
[02:57] <otaku-san> thanks...um have to go for a bit...don't leave me guys I haven't had this much fun in ages :)
[02:57] <kRush> hi, how do I set proper resolution for kdm? It's 1280x1024 but I can scroll around the screen by moving the mouse pointer to the edges, which is ... annoying
[02:57] <SupremeBeing> v55
[02:57] <Jucato> you're the one that's leaving...
[02:58] <SupremeBeing> kRush: That's odd
[02:58] <Suiseiseki> kRush, maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg would help
[02:59] <Suiseiseki> err maybe not
[02:59] <Jucato> kRush: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf try looking for a line with "Virtual
[02:59] <Jucato> "Virtual" then set it to the right resolution
[02:59] <Suiseiseki> gomen gomen
[02:59] <SupremeBeing> "Virtual? like "Virtual Desktop"?
[02:59] <Jucato> Suiseiseki: it might also work
[02:59] <SupremeBeing> oops :D
[02:59] <kRush> will try
[02:59] <Jucato> SupremeBeing: no, just "Virtual"
[02:59] <SupremeBeing> Jucato: Gotcha :D
[03:00] <Jucato> mine is "Virtual 1024 768"
[03:00] <looktj> whenever i remove dansguardian my browser doesnt work
[03:00] <SupremeBeing> Jucato: Mine=I got no clue rofl..
[03:00] <Jucato> lol
[03:00] <Jucato> CraZy675: Adept? or do you mean the Add/Remove Programs?
[03:01] <otaku-san> hehe I'm back... so what did I miss?
[03:01] <CraZy675> add/remove programs
[03:01] <CraZy675> it says adept installer
[03:01] <Jucato> hm... a healthy serving of sushi, tonkatsu, and miso soup
[03:01] <SupremeBeing> Add/Remove programs = Windows
[03:01] <Jucato> CraZy675: yep, that's correct. Adept Installer is Add/Remove Programs
[03:01] <SupremeBeing> ya
[03:01] <Jucato> plain "Adept" is the more powerful version
[03:02] <CraZy675> yea thats not my question my question is how do I un grey out things?
[03:02] <CraZy675> use adept?
[03:02] <Jucato> CraZy675: incidentally, you're going to have to use the Adept to be able to solve that... @_@
[03:02] <Jucato> (I think..)
[03:02] <Jucato> CraZy675: is this a fresh install of Kubuntu?
[03:02] <CraZy675> ok
[03:02] <CraZy675> yes
[03:03] <Jucato> ok. so basically, none of your repositories are enabled, that's why you're having grayed out stuff
[03:03] <SupremeBeing> I remember fixing that
[03:03] <SupremeBeing> Good times :D
[03:03] <Jucato> lol
[03:03] <CraZy675> oh ok
[03:03] <Jucato> CraZy675: open up Adept (just the plain "Adept")
[03:03] <CraZy675> Jucato: done
[03:04] <Jucato> go to the Adept menu and select Manage Repositories
[03:04] <Jucato> kRush: did it work?
[03:04] <kRush> worked =)
[03:04] <Jucato> kool
[03:04] <kRush> thank you
[03:04] <Jucato> no problem
[03:04] <CraZy675> nothing is commented out in manage repos
[03:04] <CraZy675> i went into etc/apt to enable them
[03:04] <CraZy675> using vi
[03:04] <CraZy675> cause i love vi
[03:05] <Jucato> CraZy675: ehehee. haven't used vi
[03:05] <Jucato> so non of the "deb" lines are gray?
[03:05] <CraZy675> double checking
[03:05] <CraZy675> none of the deb or deb-src are grey
[03:06] <Jucato> ok. after you enabled the repositories in vi, did you do a "sudo apt-get update"?
[03:06] <otaku-san> Random offtopic...but anyone on here a SomaFM listener?
[03:07] <SupremeBeing> ^ is that the cmd to update kernel?
[03:07] <Jucato> [off-topic rant]  I find Adept Installer one of the most inadept among the Adept brothers... [/end rant]
[03:07] <Jucato> SupremeBeing: nope. just to update your apt cache
[03:07] <CraZy675> Jucato: ok all works now I just had to restart adept i guess
[03:07] <SupremeBeing> Jucato: what is the kernel update cmd then?
[03:07] <Jucato> SupremeBeing: update to a newer version?
[03:08] <SupremeBeing> Jucato: yeah
[03:08] <Jucato> you can only upgrade the kernel if there's a new version available in the repositories
[03:08] <Jucato> and it will be just like installing/upgrading any other package
[03:09] <CraZy675> thanks
[03:09] <CraZy675> i'm out
[03:09] <SupremeBeing> I thougt there was a cmd for it tho... I did it last time I had kubuntu installed
[03:10] <SupremeBeing> brb
[03:10] <Suiseiseki> would anyone know how to make ytmnd pages' sound work on kubuntu?
[03:10] <Suiseiseki> firefox says I need to install an unknown plugin
[03:10] <Jucato> ytmnd?
[03:10] <Suiseiseki> ytmnd.com
[03:10] <Suiseiseki> go there
[03:10] <miktar> you're the man now dogg
[03:10] <miktar> for those who don't speak abbreviation
[03:11] <Jucato> aah
[03:11] <Jucato> Suiseiseki: does that site need flash?
[03:11] <Suiseiseki> miktar u r nub stfu prawnsor sause
[03:11] <miktar> huh?
[03:11] <Suiseiseki> jucato: I have flashplayer.. supposedly
[03:12] <otaku-san> does anyone know why Flash sound won't work??
[03:12] <Jucato> otaku-san: mine does... but I'm on a 32-bit system so that's probably one reason why...
[03:12] <Jucato> Suiseiseki: from where did  you install flash?
[03:12] <otaku-san> Jucato: I have 32 bit also
[03:13] <NamShub> how can I synchronise 2 directory going 2-ways?
[03:13] <NamShub> ie. if I modify any one of those 2 directories, the other one sync automatically
[03:13] <Suiseiseki> jucato: I forgot, I think I got it from a drug dealer
[03:13] <miktar> >.<
[03:13] <Suiseiseki> jucato: where should I get it
[03:13] <Jucato>  @_@
[03:13] <Jucato> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[03:13] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[03:13] <Jucato> there
[03:14] <Suiseiseki> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[03:15] <otaku-san> DaSkreech, has gotten on!
[03:15] <Jucato> Suiseiseki: you probably don't have "multiverse" enabled
[03:15] <DaSkreech> No I haven't?
[03:15] <DaSkreech> I have a ticket honest!
[03:15] <Suiseiseki> jucato: how do I enable it desu
[03:15] <Jucato> DaSkreech got on what?
[03:15] <Jucato>  @_@
[03:15] <DaSkreech> This isn't the train to Abudabuai?
[03:16] <Jucato> Suiseiseki: here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:16] <Jucato> read the part about "Adding Repositories"
[03:17] <otaku-san> DaSkreech, It is????  Whoopss :)
[03:17] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: Whats up?
[03:17] <Jucato> hmm.. the sky? the ceiling?
[03:17] <os2mac> what is the whole url for dapper-updates? to go into sources.list
[03:17] <DaSkreech> No Actually he sky has fallen
[03:18] <otaku-san> DaSkreech, Nothing much!  ....jeez I get that to much. -_-
[03:18] <Jucato> os2mac: "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse" ??
[03:18] <os2mac> and how does one check that he is on the .1 release?
[03:18] <Jucato> os2mac: the lines should be there already in your sources.list
[03:18] <Jucato> os2mac: type 'lsb_release -a' in Konsole
[03:18] <os2mac> yeah I just saw them
[03:19] <otaku-san> oppss got to get lost for a sec
[03:20] <miktar> what the hell?
[03:20] <miktar> I can see my screen refreshing
[03:20] <Jucato> DaSkreech: ou're not Chicken Little are you? :-D
[03:20] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Course not I'm justa little chicken is all
[03:20] <Jucato> lol
[03:21] <Suiseiseki> yay thanks jucato desu
[03:21] <Jucato> Suiseiseki: no problem. got ytmnd's sound working?
[03:21] <miktar> could you give me a hand now?
[03:22] <Suiseiseki> Jucato not sure yet I will see
[03:22] <Jucato> ehehe ok good luck!
[03:22] <Jucato> miktar: no idea about monitors and displays...
[03:22] <miktar> :/
[03:22] <Suiseiseki> jucato: didnt work
[03:22] <Jucato> aww shucks
[03:23] <Jucato> (well, at least you have flash player now...)
[03:23] <pierreth> how can i put a view button on a toolbar in konqueror?
[03:23] <Jucato> Suiseiseki: could you give me an exact ytmnd.com link that tries to play souns?
[03:23] <Suiseiseki> yes
[03:23] <Jucato> pierreth: what "view"?
[03:23] <Jucato> suonds*
[03:23] <Jucato> sounds*
[03:23] <Jucato> grr.. typos
[03:24] <Suiseiseki> http://desudesudesudesu.ytmnd.com
[03:24] <Jucato> Suiseiseki: is that yours? ehehe
[03:24] <pierreth> Jucato: files
[03:24] <Suiseiseki> Jucato: DESU DESU DESU
[03:25] <Jucato> well, that's still a bit vague. anyway, you can try Settings > Configure Toolbars
[03:25] <Agios> well it works here
[03:25] <Agios> I'm sorry to say
[03:25] <pierreth> Jucato: I did, I saw no button to select a view
[03:25] <Jucato> pierreth: you might also wan't to enable some other toolbars like Extra or Main
[03:25] <Agios> some things are better off broken
[03:26] <Jucato> hmm... mine doesn't play
[03:26] <Jucato> Agios: would you happen to know what plugin it's looking for?
[03:26] <pierreth> Jucato: I am displaying all of them
[03:27] <pierreth> Jucato: look http://www.kde-apps.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=37321&file1=37321-1.jpg&file2=37321-2.jpg&file3=37321-3.jpg&name=PDF-smp+%28PDF+service+menu+pack%29
[03:27] <Jucato> pierreth: by "select a view" you mean selecting Icon View or Detailed View or Info View, etc?
[03:27] <Agios> Jucato: about the only plugin I have installed is the mplayerplugin
[03:27] <pierreth> Jucato: yes
[03:27] <Jucato> pierreth: I don't think we have that.
[03:28] <pierreth> Jucato: the last buttons shown by the url
[03:28] <Suiseiseki> Agios: gimmie desu
[03:28] <Jucato> pierreth: let me dig up a bit
[03:28] <Agios> could be flash though, let me load it again
[03:28] <Jucato> if it's mplayer...
[03:28] <Jucato> !info mozilla-mplayer
[03:28] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.17-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 421 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[03:29] <Jucato> I don't think it's flash. I have flash installed it the page doesn't have sounds either in Firefox or Konqueror
[03:29] <Agios> has to be mplayerplugin handling it
[03:29] <Jucato> i prefer to call it emplayah
[03:29] <Jucato> lol
[03:30] <Agios> only plugins I have installed are flash 7, mplayer, java, and video downloader
[03:31] <Jucato> I'm guessing it's mplayer...
[03:31] <Jucato> definitely not java :-D
[03:31] <Jucato> otherwise my system will suddenly start walking instead of running
[03:31] <Agios> not java and not flash and the downloader plugin is not applicable
[03:32] <Agios> but sometimes you have to mess with mixer settings too
[03:32] <Jucato> pierreth: I have failed to find similar icons. probably removed by Kubuntu? I'm not sure
[03:33] <Jucato> or maybe the icons are just different, seeing that he's using a different icon theme
[03:34] <pierreth> Jucato: too bad :-(
[03:34] <Suiseiseki> Agios the sounds still doesnt werkkor
[03:34] <Jucato> let me have a try
[03:34] <Jucato> installing mozilla-mplayer
[03:34] <Agios> Suiseiseki: play with your moxer settings while it is loaded
[03:34] <Jucato> and removing it later...
[03:35] <Suiseiseki> moxer?
[03:35] <Agios> mixer
[03:35] <Suiseiseki> Agios'
[03:36] <spud> hola
[03:36] <Suiseiseki> how do I restart my mixer?
[03:39] <Jucato> Suiseiseki: it's playing on mine
[03:39] <Jucato> try to restart firefox...
[03:39] <Suiseiseki> did
[03:39] <Jucato> maybe I'll keep mplayer for a while... ^_^
[03:39] <Suiseiseki> [AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[03:39] <Jucato> hmm...
[03:39] <Suiseiseki> mplayer = teh pwn
[03:40] <Suiseiseki> xmms and vlc player play things for me though
[03:40] <Suiseiseki> mplayer doesnt..
[03:40] <Agios> alt-f2, kmix
[03:40] <Suiseiseki> Agios, what to do there
[03:40] <Jucato> err.. how do I make mozilla-mplayer work in Konqueror? or there's something else I have to get?
[03:41] <Agios> that starts the kmix mixer
[03:41] <Agios> Jucato: I've hard konq uses the mozilla plugins but I've never tried it.
[03:41] <Agios> heard
[03:41] <Jucato> T_T
[03:42] <Agios> I don't use konq for web browsing
[03:42] <DaSkreech> It works easily for me
[03:42] <spud> anyone tried edgy yet
[03:42] <Jucato> DaSkreech: mozilla-mplayer for Konqui?
[03:42] <Suiseiseki> uh
[03:42] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[03:42] <DaSkreech> It's great
[03:42] <Jucato> hm..
[03:43] <Suiseiseki> Agios: how do I restart my mixer?
[03:43] <Jucato> maybe I need to restart wittle Konqui
[03:43] <spud> edgy is great?
[03:43] <DaSkreech> Though I'm trying to figure out mms streams
[03:43] <DaSkreech> not sure why there are so many in the bookmarks
[03:43] <DaSkreech> spud: It lives up to it's name
[03:44] <dr_willis> 'Crashy Condor' :)
[03:44] <spud> crash frequently?
[03:44] <Jucato> DaSkreech: could you please check if the background music here plays in Konqueror: http://desudesudesudesu.ytmnd.com/
[03:44] <DaSkreech> Yeah. Causes spouts of blood etc. But I think only sid is newer
[03:45] <spud> sid?
[03:45] <Jucato> Debian Sid
[03:45] <DaSkreech> Debian
[03:45] <spud> oh
[03:45] <Jucato> Debian Sid = Debian Unstable
[03:45] <Jucato> Debian Etch = Debian Testing.
[03:45] <Jucato> But in December, Etch will be Stable
[03:45] <DaSkreech> spud: I'd advise a new partition if you would like to play with edgy. it can be your kubunut+1 partition
[03:47] <Jucato> lol! we're reading the same thing
[03:47] <DaSkreech> Ahh Bless Danny allen :)
[03:47] <Jucato> DaSkreech: did you check the link I gave? for some reason, the background sound doesn't play in Konqui, but plays in Firefox
[03:48] <Suiseiseki> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah desu desu desu desu desu
[03:48] <Jucato> I installed mozilla-mplayer
[03:48] <spud> is the edgy cd a livecd or just an installer
[03:48] <DaSkreech> Knot might be a live CdI'm not sure
[03:48] <Jucato> spud: they have both.
[03:48] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Confirmed
[03:49] <spud> im downloading knot1
[03:49] <Jucato> DaSkreech: oh, doesn't play in Konqui?
[03:49] <DaSkreech> Right.
[03:49] <Jucato> spud: the Desktop CD is the Live CD+Installer
[03:49] <Jucato> DaSkreech: ooh. ok thanks for that
[03:49] <Jucato> thought Konqui was sick...
[03:49] <DaSkreech> Course I've foorgottne if I'v reinstalled mplayer for Konqui :-(
[03:49] <DaSkreech>  I think I have though
[03:50] <Jucato> ah never mind ehehe
[03:50] <DaSkreech>  Let me grab some Game trailers :)
[03:50] <Jucato> DaSkreech: nah, let's just continue reading the commits ehehe
[03:50] <spud> edgy-desktop-i386.iso=livecd+installer right?
[03:50] <Jucato> yep
[03:51] <DaSkreech> Anyone played with Krash?
[03:53] <spud> i see that the latest stable kernel is <IP_ADDRESS> so why is my kernel still 2.6.15
[03:54] <spud> r the newer kernels not kompatible with kubuntu 6.06?
[03:55] <DaSkreech> spud: Probably not tested yet
[03:55] <DaSkreech> it doesn't act like a firehose where as it hops out the compiler you get it dorect on your hard drive :)
[03:55] <Jucato> DaSkreech: only developers would be able to make sense out of Krash and hope that it will not krash
[03:56] <spud> i was just wondering why its not in my repositories
[03:56] <DaSkreech> Right. I know that.  I think KPhotoAlbum seems to be adding a feature that really shouldn't be there...
[04:01] <spud> i want my powernowd to work
[04:01] <DaSkreech> the video?
[04:01] <spud> any help?
[04:01] <DaSkreech> !powernow
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powernow - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:01] <Jucato> DaSkreech: yes...
[04:01] <Jucato> !powernowd
[04:01] <ubotu> powernowd: control cpu speed and voltage using 2.6 kernel interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 116 kB
[04:02] <DaSkreech> :-P
[04:02] <DaSkreech> I knew that
[04:02] <Jucato> ^_^
[04:02] <spud> powernow-k8: BIOS error - no PSB or ACPI _PSS objects
[04:02] <Jucato> why would a "Photo"Album have to play "Videos"?
[04:03] <DaSkreech> I've never used KPhotoalbum at all. So it might be obvious once I open it
[04:03] <spud> but i have it turned on in the bios
[04:04] <soulrider> hi everyone
[04:04] <Jucato> hi soulrider! and wb Agios
[04:04] <soulrider> hu Jucato
[04:05] <Agios> lol, thx
[04:05] <DaSkreech> Yo soulrider
[04:06] <DaSkreech> Hi nikkun
[04:06] <DaSkreech> Have I seen you before?
[04:06] <nikkun> i dont know
[04:06] <nikkun> ive only come in here a few times
[04:07] <phate> is there a way to get the default KDE icons back on the Desktop?
[04:07] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Any word yet from FTN ?
[04:07] <dr_willis> delete ya .kde* dirs and that will reset everything to default. :P
[04:08] <soulrider> nope
[04:08] <Hawkwind> soulrider: Ok.   :P
[04:11] <dr_willis> lol
[04:11] <nikkun> what icons?
[04:11] <Jucato> lol
[04:11] <dr_willis> i get so IRKED at doing somthing on a windows desktop that has 100+ icons on it
[04:11] <Hawkwind> People still use desktop icons ??
[04:11] <Jucato> let's not impose "our" preferences on others....
[04:11] <dr_willis> first thing i do.. make new folder.. name it "Junk" and put them all in there. :)
[04:11] <Jucato> O_O  people still use the desktop metaphor?
[04:11] <dr_willis> Thats what launcher panels are for,
[04:11] <dr_willis> :)
[04:11] <nikkun> my desktop holds junk only lol
[04:11] <Jucato> whoa, Kiongku's here
[04:11] <dr_willis> pop out. launch, hide.
[04:11] <Kiongku> bleh.. in k3b the FiFo buffer and device buffer shows no info
[04:12] <Kiongku> Jucato: yo
[04:12] <Jucato> which version of K3b are you using? didn't bother checking mine... ^_^
[04:12] <apallo> does anyone have experience in getting evolution to connect to an exchange server?
[04:12] <Jucato> phate: anyway, getting back to your question, what desktop icons are you trying to put?
[04:13] <Kiongku> 0.12.14
[04:13] <Kiongku> Jucato: whats urs
[04:13] <Jucato> checking...
[04:13] <Jucato> ^_^
[04:13] <Jucato> same
[04:13] <Jucato> though I really didn't check about the FIFO buffer
[04:13] <Kiongku> lol
[04:13] <Kiongku> well i dunt care.. as long as it keep burning good :p
[04:13] <Jucato> yeah
[04:14] <apallo> anyone?
[04:14] <Jucato> hm... has anyone wondered why you put "wall"papers on "desk"tops?
[04:14] <LuisD> hola que requerimiento necesito para instalar kubuntu
[04:14] <Jucato> !es
[04:14] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:14] <Kiongku> lol?
[04:15] <Jucato> apallo: I'm not sure how many here use Evolution... presuming most use Kontact...
[04:15] <phate> Jucato: The default ones like Home, Trash, Network, Etc
[04:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> Jucato: Because someone with big screens that covered the whole wall said "Hey, that's like some new wallpaper!"
[04:15] <Jucato> lol
[04:15] <apallo> :|
[04:16] <Jucato> then how does a big screen fit on a desk? ehehe
[04:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> Jucato: It doesn't, that's why they called it wallpaper. It was hung on the wall. ;)
[04:16] <Jucato> bwahaha
[04:16] <Jucato> rofl
[04:16] <Jucato> err... getting off topic again... darn it's so hard to stay on topic...
[04:17] <soulrider> Jucato: indeed
[04:17] <phate> Jucato: thats the magic of IRC... Off topic-ness
[04:17] <Jucato> specially if there are only 25 people in #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:17] <nikkun> there is a chanel for that
[04:17] <DaSkreech> http://bash.org?top
[04:18] <Jucato> hm...  NASA?
[04:21] <DaSkreech> Its above the sky
[04:21] <DaSkreech>  Plus the sky HAS fallen so not much is above it now :-(
[04:21] <Jucato> lol
[04:22] <Jucato> well the NASA buildings are beneath the sky...
[04:22] <Jucato> but no inter-planetary diplomatic talks
[04:22] <Jucato> and no aliens!
[04:22] <Jucato> debs only...
[04:24] <soulrider> i really dont get that quote about some guy losing a machine
[04:24] <otaku-san> ,,,losing a machine?
 hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.
[04:25] <Jucato> what da?
[04:25] <soulrider> a quote from bash.org
[04:25] <soulrider> i dont get it why its funny........
[04:26] <nikkun> soulrider: more worriesome right?
[04:26] <otaku-san> ...hmmm so this guy has contact with this box but doesn't know where it is....and I thought I was lost
[04:26] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: hi!!
[04:26] <soulrider> i udnerstood it
[04:26] <soulrider> but didnt really find the "funny" part
[04:26] <NamShub> theres a limit to how many files "mv" can move??
[04:27] <NamShub> (in a single directory) (?)
[04:28] <nikkun> soulrider: the funny part is his appartment is soo messy he cant find the computer >.<
[04:28] <soulrider> thats retarded
[04:29] <otaku-san> soulrider: it's cool man... I guess it kinda is....tho' how could you lose a box.....I mean if I lost mine...I might as well need new glasses
[04:30] <Jucato> but... how could you lose "a box"... lol
[04:30] <soulrider> yea
[04:30] <soulrider> it would have to be buried under a huge ass pile of papers
[04:30] <soulrider> and
[04:31] <soulrider> i think i would remember in which room at least my computer is :P
[04:31] <Jucato> you've gotta have a room the size of a ship
[04:31] <otaku-san> soulrider, no kidding...
[04:31] <soulrider> and
[04:31] <soulrider> you would remember you have another computer
[04:31] <soulrider> before so mcuh time passes
[04:31] <soulrider> that you forget aobut it
[04:32] <Jucato> but I'd still be able to see it. specially if it's "a box"
[04:32] <phate> Jucato: so any ideas on my question?
[04:32] <Jucato> phate: for the Home icon, and  a "My Computer" icon
[04:32] <otaku-san> soulrider, the guy either doesn't use it...or just needs to get a life and get married...she might be able to whip him in shape
[04:33] <phate> Jucato: yes
[04:33] <Jucato> phate: right-click on the desktop, choose Create New > Link to URL
[04:34] <Jucato> then in the "Link to Location (URL):", type in home:/
[04:35] <Jucato> For a "My Computer" icon, you can repeat the process, this time using 'system:/' instead
[04:36] <Jucato> phate: you could probably also use 'trash:/
[04:36] <Jucato> trash:/
[04:36] <Jucato> I'm just not sure how well that works with drag and drop, and right-clicking to empty the trash
[04:37] <Jucato> phate: just an update, trash:/ works well with both
[04:40] <reddwolf> hello archangel
[04:40] <reddwolf> i got it working were i can boot off 1 hard drive
[04:40] <reddwolf> from linux or to windows xp
[04:43] <reddwolf> does any one have the link to easy ubuntu
[04:43] <Hawkwind> !easyubuntu
[04:43] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:44] <reddwolf> thanks
[04:46] <nkRush> bleh
[04:52] <reddwolf> i was in a few nights ago about getting my mp3s to work on my system
[04:52] <reddwolf> can some one help me out with getting that again
[04:52] <Hawkwind> !mp3s > reddwolf
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3s - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <Hawkwind> !mp3 > reddwolf
[04:53] <reddwolf> yep
[04:53] <reddwolf> i had it onece befor but for got witch thing in the manager to install
[04:54] <otaku-san> Hawkwind: this is your thing
[04:54] <reddwolf> i have to redo it all over again cus i had to redo my system so my xp and linux are on the same hard drive
[04:55] <Bearcat> hey folks, i have a kmail pgg question. At some point my nice kde dialog box for entering in my passphrase dissapered and i am now given this ugly X dialog. What the heck did i change 2 years ago to do that? :)
[04:58] <reddwolf> so can some one help me get my mp3's working i have one part i know i need and thats the easyunbutu
[05:03] <Hawkwind> reddwolf: Read what the bot sent you in pm
[05:03] <Agios> reddwolf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:03] <reddwolf> ok
[05:03] <Agios> hmmm, probably same info LOL
[05:06] <Bigfoot> ho Bearcat
[05:07] <Jucato> would anyone know how I could burn a WMV or a DivX AVI to VCD?
[05:07] <tk> GRRR I F'ing hate this country and its crappy ass internet
[05:08] <tk> sorry, wrong channel :/
[05:08] <Hawkwind> tk: Care to express to us your real feelings :P
[05:09] <DaSkreech> OK I think I broke Konqqueror
[05:09] <tk> Hawkwind: it wouldnt be appropriate for a R rated movie... so probably best that I dont :P
[05:09] <cilkay> What's the equivalent of chkconfig in K/Ubuntu?
[05:09] <DaSkreech> !language
[05:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:09] <Hawkwind> Heh
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Anyone ever got a cannot talk to klauncher error?
[05:10] <tk> was that you asking about it last night DaSkreech? because it was talked about yesterday in here...
[05:10] <kavit> i think we pay too much attention to "family" and "correct"
[05:10] <Hawkwind> cilkay: serviceconfig is a GUI version
[05:10] <DaSkreech> tk: nope
[05:10] <cilkay> is there a version on the shell?
[05:10] <Hawkwind> cilkay: There is a CLI version, but I forget what it's called
[05:10] <DaSkreech> kavit: Instead of watching?
[05:10] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I have gotten them before, yes
[05:11] <DaSkreech> What is it?
[05:11] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: Good morning
[05:11] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: It means that klauncher is out of sync or something
[05:11] <Jucato> Gud morning (!?!) Hobbsee
[05:11] <Jucato> Good morning, Good afternoon, Good evening, as the case may be
[05:12] <Agios> cilkay: apt-get install sysv-rc-conf   it is very similar to the old chkconfig
[05:12] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: I just run top for my user, then kill all (k) related apps and then it works.  Sometimes killing klauncher and kdeinit and restarting them works too
[05:12] <Hawkwind> Agios: That's the one!  Thanks for that
[05:12] <Hobbsee> hi Hawkwind
[05:12] <Hobbsee> hmmm.  another merge to fix
[05:12] <Jucato> would anyone know how I could burn a WMV or a DivX AVI to VCD?
[05:12] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Any diea what triggers it?
[05:13] <Hawkwind> Jucato: You can burn avi files directly to CD with k3b
[05:13] <Hobbsee> hi Jucato
[05:13] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Other than it being out of sync or something, nope
[05:13] <Jucato> Hawkwind: DivX AVI to VCD format?
[05:20] <unix_infidel> does Kubuntu ship with an auto-wireless association script or does it just associate with the closest on the list?
[05:21] <unix_infidel> it seems whenever i startup it automatically has associated and recieved an IP from whatever AP is closest at the time.
[05:21] <nixternal> hey...if i have more than 1gb of physical ram..do i still do 2x the amount for swap?  i thought i read somewhere that you don't want to
[05:21] <unix_infidel> nixternal: 2x is just a general rule.
[05:22] <nixternal> ouch..2gb of swap is nuts..ok ;)
[05:22] <nixternal> let me get back to installin' ;)
[05:22] <unix_infidel> i usually do .5-1x
[05:22] <unix_infidel> whenever i have 768+
[05:24] <DaSkreech> Night guys!
[05:25] <Jucato> DaSkreech: good night! (almost noon here)
[05:25] <Synaptics> hello anyone still awake?
[05:25] <tk> Jucato: where you located? its just past noon here :P
[05:26] <Jucato> tk: philippines. guessing you're farther east?
[05:26] <unix_infidel> anyone for my wireless association question?
[05:26] <tk> yah... the Koreas
[05:26] <Jucato> whoa
[05:26] <tk> not by choice mind you, just happened that way :P
[05:26] <Jucato> anyeong ha seo (forgot the spelling)
[05:26] <tk> hehe, never learned to spell it myself :P
[05:27] <Jucato> ehehe
[05:27] <tk> only know 5 works or so :P and know how to spell 2 of them for sure :P
[05:27] <tk> yogi and chogi :P
[05:27] <Jucato> kimchi!
[05:27] <tk> well I assume thats how they are spelled... I'm probably wrong :P
[05:29] <Synaptics> its 12.30 noon
[05:29] <Jucato> 11:30 am here
[05:31] <Synaptics> anyone knows whats the downside of automatix ?
[05:32] <tk> it doesnt work most of the time?
[05:33] <Jucato> it modifies your sources.list without you knowing what's being changed?
[05:33] <tk> and it installs the wrong.... stuff sometimes as well i believe....
[05:33] <Synaptics> ahhhh, so, its not that good then
[05:34] <Jucato> lol
[05:34] <Jucato> it's good
[05:34] <Jucato> coz it's easy
[05:34] <Synaptics> how do i install it in kubuntu?
[05:36] <Jucato> Synaptics: I seemed to have lost the link... hold on a sec
[05:36] <Jucato> let me see what ubotu knows...
[05:36] <Jucato> !automatix
[05:36] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[05:38] <actinic> automatix: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203294&highlight=kubuntu
[05:38] <Jucato> Synaptics: try this site: http://www.getautomatix.com/
[05:39] <Jucato> actinic: Automatix has requested that their section be closed in Ubuntuforums
[05:39] <lnxkde> my KDE 3.5.4 ask me to configure the eyecandy setting averytime I load into the system someone has a workaround that?
[05:40] <Jucato> Synaptics: a more direct link: http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation&Itemid=38
[05:40] <Synaptics> thanks
[05:42] <actinic> Jucato, the folks at Automatix haven't bothered removing it
[05:42] <Jucato> well, not removed. but closed...
[05:42] <Jucato> actinic: but it's no longer in the front page of Ubuntuforums
[05:42] <actinic> they need to remove it
[05:43] <Jucato> oh it's no longer there. I mean the links to the thread... but the thread are still in the database
[05:44] <actinic> why haven't they made mention of this in the thread?
[05:44] <actinic>  the thread at ubuntuforums that is
[05:45] <Jucato> hmm... let me get a thread where I heard it
[05:46] <Jucato> actinic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1393285#post1393285
[05:48] <Synaptics> hmmm i think i found a problem in kubuntu. when i start a new session or open up krita. my mouse doesnt work
[05:49] <actinic> got it, thanks, but it doesn't mean one can't view the info at the ubuntu forums
[05:49] <actinic> and if the info gets dated then it's the responsibility of the automatix devs to close those threads
[05:49] <Jucato> actinic: yes. I did say that the threads are still in the database
[05:49] <actinic> or a least put a warning saying
[05:50] <Jucato> actinic: but you won't be able to see them unless you do a Search
[05:50] <actinic> hey, the info might be outta date
[05:50] <soulrider> heya
[05:50] <actinic> right
[05:50] <Synaptics> hmmm i think i found a problem in kubuntu. when i start a new session or open up krita. my mouse doesnt work <--any ideas what happened?
[05:50] <angasule> !gimpshop
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gimpshop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <soulrider> !gimp
[05:51] <ubotu> An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[05:51] <soulrider> ?
[05:51] <Jucato> no gimpshop in Kubuntu
[05:51] <actinic> anyone here got printing to work?
[05:52] <Jucato> lnxkde: see if this works: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=8041.0
[05:52] <actinic> i've heard the kde/kubuntu combo regarding cups is kind of hosed
[05:52] <Jucato> heard the same thing... wish I had a printer to find out...
[05:52] <actinic> no printer?
[05:53] <actinic> how do you document?
[05:53] <Jucato> I don't :-D
[05:53] <Jucato> well, my sister has a printer
[05:53] <lnxkde> Jucato, thankx I just did apt-get remove kpersonalizer
[05:53] <angasule> Jucato: :( why not? I saw some threads about .debs for hoary
[05:53] <actinic> lol, guess it's not for 'serious' use
[05:53] <actinic> :)
[05:53] <Jucato> I just send her what I need to print
[05:54] <Jucato> angasule: huh?
[05:55] <actinic> can u imagine the hell Windows would get without print functionality?
[05:55] <Jucato> lnxkde: ok :-D
[05:55] <lnxkde> Jucato, thankx
[05:55] <angasule> Jucato: gimpshop, why isn't it available, any idea?
[05:55] <Jucato> I'd see Windows being thrown out the window... pun intended
[05:55] <Jucato> ah.
[05:55] <actinic> that
[05:56] <actinic> that's true, you gotta find a way to print some how!
[05:56] <Jucato> I don't think gimpshop was ever made available in the official repositories. There are probably debs from other people, but not from the repositories
[05:57] <Synaptics> ok, i have a major problem. my mouse doesnt work
[05:59] <angasule> ah, and why?? using plain gimp removes 'human' from the ubuntu motto, it's just "linux for beings" :)
[05:59] <actinic> anyone else here print in Kubuntu?
[05:59] <angasule> actinic: not in a while, with a printer connected to the pc; over samba, yes
[06:00] <actinic> what printer?
[06:01] <angasule> hewlett-packard 1020 over the net, a lexmark 5000 over the net and directly connected as well
[06:01] <angasule> why, actinic?
[06:01] <obf213> hey my x has crashed randomly twice
[06:02] <obf213> the screen goes back, and then curser shows up like its going to show kdm but it never does
[06:02] <obf213> and then the screen goes blank, then the curshows up again, the processing sign shows up like its going to load kdm, then it goes back
[06:02] <obf213> any idas
[06:03] <angasule> check the error log?
[06:03] <actinic> angasule, curious on people's success, or lack thereof, with this distro
[06:03] <actinic> there's been problems
[06:04] <angasule> actinic: well, the lexmark I only used with breezy, I think
[06:05] <actinic> angasule: from what i've read many printers worked with breezy
[06:05] <obf213> anyone know wht happens when i dsktop just dissappears screen goes blank then loading curser shows up like kdm will show up but nothing works.
[06:06] <actinic> in dapper only 4 HP's are listed to choose from during install
[06:06] <actinic> i thought HP had about a 50% market share, lol
[06:43] <Kr4t05> Dood...
[06:43] <Kr4t05> Netsplit from hell.
[06:44] <Hawkwind> Where ?
[06:57] <robert_> anybody- help? (k)ubuntu won't progress past starting the kernel event manager - I had a power surge the other day, and now it won't start :/
[06:58] <angasule> robert_: ouch
[06:58] <robert_> heh, yeah
[06:59] <robert_> it hangs on starting the kernel event manager :/
[06:59] <robert_> do note, that I recently installed/configured my system for use with ldap- if that makes any difference\
[07:01] <angasule> robert_: sorry, I can't help, but good luck :/
[07:01] <evilgeek> is the KLaptop power manager fully integrated into with the kernel yet?
[07:02] <evilgeek> reason im asking is everytime I hibernate, and when I resume from it my kernel freezes and have to do a hard reboot
[07:02] <robert_> damn :/
[07:17] <Pupeno> How can I see the state of the battery of my notebook in the command line ?
[07:17] <Pupeno> cat /proc/... ?
[07:39] <abattoir> Pupeno: acpi
[07:41] <Pupeno> abattoir: thank you.
[07:41] <abattoir> Pupeno: you're welcome :)
[07:45] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Good evening/morning
[07:46] <abattoir> hello Hawkwind :)
[07:47] <mcrandello> does anyone know of any terminal emulators that will do 3270 and have ubuntu packages available?
[07:48] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:50] <mcrandello> apt-get couldn't find that one :(
[07:51] <abattoir> mcrandello: i think that was a greeting, not a response to your question :)
[07:51] <mcrandello> ah
[07:51] <mcrandello> in that case guten tag
[07:53] <abattoir> mcrandello: there seem to be a lot of packages(i dont know which ones)... so do a search for 3270 in adept
[07:53] <cong> hallo
[07:54] <mcrandello> abattoir: the only ones I'm showing are some debian packages I found that didn't even install fully due to some messed up dependencies
[07:55] <mcrandello> I'll try installing all the dev packages from xorg and see if I can't get x3270 to compile from source
[07:56] <abattoir> !info x3270
[07:56] <ubotu> Package x3270 does not exist in dapper
[07:56] <abattoir> !info x3270 edgy
[07:56] <ubotu> x3270: X11 program for telnet sessions to IBM mainframes. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.4p6-3.2 (edgy), package size 210 kB, installed size 584 kB
[07:56] <mcrandello> I found some hoary packages
[07:57] <unix_infidel> does the current gvim not have themes?
[07:57] <mcrandello> I have to wonder why noone ever maintained the tn3270 sources, there's still plenty of iron left running it
[07:58] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: Read their site, it should say
[07:58] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: nono, i meant after i upgraded to dapper i cant get color themes to work.
[07:58] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: Safe to assume you didn't do a fresh install, you upgraded which is never recommended
[07:58] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: you'd be wrong to assume.
[07:59] <mcrandello> if you didn't overwrite your homefiles there could be a dotfile that doesn't play well with the new version perhaps?
[07:59] <unix_infidel> there's no menu options for colorschemes and whenever i edit gvimrc it doesnt display the proper colorscheme.
[07:59] <unix_infidel> i've installed vim-gtk and vim-gnome
[08:00] <zac> hey I'm trying to restore grub to my MBR. my /boot partition is on /dev/hdc2. do I say grub-install /dev/hdc2 or grub-install /dev/hda, which is the primary master where windows is and what the computer boots from?
[08:00] <Hawkwind> Probably an old config file messing things up.  Hence the reason to do fresh installs
[08:00] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: no, its a brand new config file.
[08:00] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: this is a FRESH install.
[08:00] <unix_infidel> i've only appended with the colorscheme line.
[08:01] <mcrandello> zac the MBR would pretty much be the first portion of the first HD you boot from
[08:01] <zac> mcrandello: ok, so that would be /dev/hda, right
[08:01] <mcrandello> but don't take my word for it, I've never actually ran grub-install
[08:02] <unix_infidel> maybe i should ask in motu if the maintainers took out the colorscheme options.
[08:02] <mcrandello> I *think*
[08:02] <mcrandello> zac at the very least I'd make a windows boot disk with fdisk on it
[08:03] <mcrandello> that way if things get hosed you can put the windows boot sector back on the MBR with "fdisk /fixmbr" I think is the command
[08:06] <mythril> if I have 2 computers on a network that has not internet access does one of them have to be set up as a DHCP server?
[08:07] <mythril> in order for them to communicate that is
[08:08] <bimberi_> mythril: not necessarily, you can give them both static ip addresses
[08:09] <robert_> anybody- help? (k)ubuntu won't progress past starting the kernel event manager - I had a power surge the other day, and now it won't start :/
[08:11] <DFM> I have a question. I prefer KDE but my Thinkpad seems to work better with gnome. Example, with a stock install of Ubuntu my volume keys work and my laptops power functions work like suspend but none of these work inKDE. Any idea's?
[08:16] <abattoir> DFM: kcontrol/systemsettings->Regional & Acc.->Keyboard Layout->Keyboard Model....
[08:16] <unix_infidel> DFM: the power functions should work the same.
[08:16] <robert_> nobody has any idea why I'm having issues with ubuntu?
[08:17] <unix_infidel> as for the OSD stuff, you can do that with tpb or you can do it with the respective DE daemons.
[08:17] <unix_infidel> it should work on both.
[08:17] <mcrandello> robert_ it doesn't sound good I know that :(
[08:17] <mcrandello> try hitting esc at teh grub menu and booting into single user mode?
[08:18] <mcrandello> I'm not sure exactly what the command is with grub
[08:18] <robert_> hm, okay
[08:18] <mcrandello> http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.3-Manual/custom-guide/s1-rescuemode-booting-single.html
[08:18] <robert_> well
[08:18] <mcrandello> there's booting single mode
[08:18] <robert_> yeah
[08:18] <robert_> blah
[08:18] <robert_> bbs
[08:18] <mcrandello> see if you can at least get to a prompt
[08:29] <cilkay> Shouldn't you be able to switch X modes by hitting Ctrl-Alt-+ ?
[08:29] <DFM> sorry I was away for a second. teh problem I am ahving the most is my contrast is to high. when i go into display and change it from the rec 2.0 gamma to say apple's 1.8 and restart my resolution goes from 1024x768 to 800x600 and the gamma option is no longer visible.
[08:30] <DFM> thus I am stuck because lack of experience keeps me from changing it back
[08:31] <fritsch> DFM: you could set your gamma in xorg.conf
[08:31] <fritsch> DFM: just under Monitor Section
[08:31] <DFM> just use a text edito like nano?
[08:31] <DFM> editor
[08:31] <fritsch> DFM: Gamma gamma-value
[08:32] <fritsch> DFM: yes, after that you have to restart kdm for changes to take effekt
[08:32] <fritsch> DFM: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:32] <DFM> Let me try it thanks.
[08:33] <fritsch> DFM: yes this works, have tested just now
[08:35] <DFM> I just noticed that while searching for and changing gamma that the only resolution listed was 640x480
[08:36] <DFM> This happened last week and I changed the resolution but not the gamma and could never get back to 1024x768 so I reloaded. Since this is a learning machine nothing was lost
[08:38] <LeeJunFan> DFM: you don't learn by reloading :p you learn by not giving up until you figure out why :)
[08:39] <DFM> I have rebooted after changing my gamma back to it's original setting but my resolution is still stuck at 800x600 and the option for changing gamma is still not there.
[08:39] <DFM> true but when you can't see because the setting looks horrible on the lcd you have to reload and try again to see what happened.
[08:40] <DFM> for example I have finally figured out what I am doing to screw up my X and now I ma in here talking with you to try and figure it out.
[08:40] <DFM> and searching the web
[08:42] <unix_infidel> DFM: what thinkpad do you have.
[08:42] <DFM> I just rechecked my gamma settings and they are listing as the original 2.0 instead of the 1.0 they were showing. Further more in Kubuntu I only set them to 1.8 so any idea how they changed to 1.0?
[08:42] <DFM> a21m
[08:42] <unix_infidel> most all simple xorg settings were just fine on my thinkpad and i only needed to enable the advanced settings for power management, and device options.
[08:43] <SpAwN> what can i use to take a few small video clips and make them all into one nice video file....and prefebly let me add music to the video?
[08:43] <DFM> I think the lcd may be going since it is so old. all I want to do is bring down the contrast.
[08:44] <DFM> I tried to install the control center for gnome but the package manger keeps giving me the break-install
[08:44] <DFM> I figure it is smarter than i am and won't let me install because I may break something.
[08:45] <unix_infidel> DFM: its not that.
[08:45] <LeeJunFan> DFM: I think that 2.0 and 1.8 and such are just the charts they reccomend using to compare against. If you adjust the slider it should adjust your gamma to what you need, mine is best at about 80%.
[08:45] <unix_infidel> there's probably a dependency issue.
[08:46] <DFM> when I looked in the option it allowed you to change then said youhad to restart for it to take effect.
[08:47] <DFM> I would change and restart but the only thing that changed was my resolution that I can't seem to get back.
[08:47] <DFM> I know I am doing something wrong in this learning process I just haven't figured it out yet.
[08:47] <DFM> I figure with your help and reading I should find it.
[08:48] <fritsch> DFM: still there?
[08:48] <fritsch> DFM: please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:48] <DFM> yes
[08:49] <fritsch> DFM: and look, that you don`change resolution kde internally
[08:49] <DFM> Give me a minute I am on my win machine
[08:49] <fritsch> DFM: one question again
[08:49] <DFM> k
[08:50] <fritsch> DFM: is KDM already in the wrong resolution?
[08:50] <fritsch> DFM: or first, if you have logged in?
[08:50] <DFM> It looks to be in the wrong resolution upon boot
[08:51] <DFM> when the login window comes up it's in the wrong resolution
[08:51] <fritsch> DFM: okay, I have a look - i think this is easy to fix
[08:51] <fritsch> DFM: something wrong with your xorg.conf
[08:51] <fritsch> DFM: how long do you need for pasting? i have to leave in 3 minutes?
[08:51] <fritsch> DFM: or you have to  for an hour? if you want?
[08:52] <fritsch> DFM: just pastebin, I ll ask you, when I return
[08:52] <DFM> i should be able te do it soon. I am goiing to try and login and paste
[08:52] <DFM> k
[08:53] <DFM> what is pastebin? paste the entire conf file here?
[08:54] <fritsch> !pastebin > DFM
[08:54] <fritsch> DFM: have to leave, till soon
[08:54] <DFM> k
[08:56] <SpAwN> hmm anyone know if there is a repo that has cinelerra on it...i cant seem to find it ont he normal ones
[08:59] <DFM> before I do anthing stupid and irrate people in here, can someone explain what he meant by !pastebin? I have noticed several time people would put an! before something. I am looking at irchelp.org right now trying to figure it out.
[09:00] <cilkay> I'm so close to getting dual screens working on my ThinkPad.
[09:00] <bimberi_> DFM: the ! triggers a response from ubotu, the channel bot
[09:00] <bimberi_> !botsnack
[09:00] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:01] <cilkay> Actually, I have it working. I cheated by looking at what Knoppix detected and copied/pasted bits of xorg.conf from the Knoppix example.
[09:03] <mcrandello> cilkay: what graphics chip you got in there?
[09:03] <cilkay> I see there is an option in System Settings to set two monitors with different resolutions but whenever I've tried, X crashed on boot claiming that there isn't enough video memory to allocate 2048x1536. The only place I see that figure is in "Virtual".
[09:03] <cilkay> ATI Rage Mobility 128, M3
[09:04] <cilkay> it's the r128 driver
[09:04] <SpAwN> anyone know a goo dvideo editor that will let me take multi videos adn turn them into one video file...and add sound/music to the vieo?
[09:04] <mcrandello> ah I guess my fglrx config wouldn't do much good then
[09:04] <SpAwN> i cant find packages for lives or cinelerra
[09:04] <SpAwN> and cinelerra wont compile from source for me
[09:05] <mcrandello> http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php has debs for sid
[09:05] <mcrandello> also this: http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/README
[09:05] <SpAwN> wow thanks mcrandello
[09:06] <SpAwN> i have been looking
[09:06] <mcrandello> when in doubt just put the name of the package and "debs" in google :)
[09:06] <cilkay> Hey, I know that guy at Kiberpipa. He hangs out at #django quite often.
[09:10] <SpAwN> mcrandello, hehe will do nex time
[09:11] <mcrandello> just watch the dependencies is all ;P
[09:11] <fritsch> DFM: still there?
[09:11] <DFM> yes
[09:11] <fritsch> DFM: can provide me the link?
[09:20] <cilkay> What is the difference between "Clone Primary Screen" and "Dual Screen" in the Display control panel?
[09:20] <cilkay> Clone I presume means both monitors must be running the same resolution.
[09:21] <cilkay> The other looks like they can be different. However, it isn't clear if the two monitors would be combined to form one larger virtual desktop or they would be clones but at different resolutions.
[09:22] <cilkay> Either way, it involves an X restart and if X is restarted, it crashes.
[09:22] <fritsch> cilkay: Clone can mean: both monitors have the same on screen
[09:22] <fritsch> cilkay: resolution can differ
[09:22] <fritsch> !pastebin
[09:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:23] <cilkay> But, it seems like I should be able to do what I want, which is to drive an external LCD projector while seeing what's being projected on my laptop's internal display.
[09:23] <cilkay> ... as long as I don't restart X.
[09:24] <cilkay> I don't see any obvious way of specifying different resolutions if the "Clone" option is selected.
[09:25] <fritsch> cilkay: which graphics card?
[09:25] <fritsch> cilkay: it is possible with mergedfb
[09:25] <fritsch> cilkay: if you have a radeon
[09:25] <cilkay> Not Radeon, it's a Rage Mobility 128
[09:26] <fritsch> cilkay: mmmh, i think you only way is to go with xinerama
[09:26] <cilkay> But that's for spanning desktops, isn't it?
[09:26] <fritsch> cilkay: here i think it is not possible, to clone with diifferent resoluting
[09:26] <fritsch> cilkay: yes
[09:26] <fritsch> cilkay: mmmh wait
[09:26] <cilkay> I don't need spanning. I need cloning.
[09:26] <cilkay> Different resolutions would be a "nice to have", not essential.
[09:27] <cilkay> Practically speaking, I'm not sure how you'd clone at different res anyway.
[09:27] <fritsch> cilkay: sorry have to google, but right busy
[09:28] <cilkay> What happens if I drag something out of the viewable area of the lower res display? I presume I could see it in the higher res one but unless there is a boundary indicator, there would be no way of knowing without looking at the projected image.
[09:28] <cilkay> That defeats the purpose of the exercise, which is to be able to see what my audience is seeing without me having to turn my back on them.
[09:29] <cilkay> I'll stick with what I have now, which "sort of" works.
[09:29] <cilkay> I can change resolutions and the internal and external will be synchronized.
[09:29] <cilkay> I'll see the change immediately without needing an X restart.
[09:30] <cilkay> However, if I restart, X will crash if I forget to turn off the cloning.
[09:32] <mike330> CuzZ
[09:32] <william_> hello every one im trying to learn more about the linux kernal i,e, tweak it. can anyone point me in the right direction?
[09:33] <william_> ???
[09:34] <mcrandello> lhttp://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/Kernel-Build-HOWTO.html
[09:35] <william_> thanks
[09:35] <mcrandello> the sgml source to the old guide is here :http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO/
[09:36] <eeos> hi there
[09:36] <eeos> I canot see dvd with kaffeine on kubuntu amd64
[09:36] <eeos> anyone with the sae problem?
[09:36] <eeos> anyone with the same problem?
[09:37] <fritsch> eeos: sudo apt-get install livdvdread
[09:37] <mcrandello> william_: also hang around in here and ##linux during peak times when you're rebuilding the kernel, I've been saved from disaster many a time that way
[09:37] <fritsch> eeos: sudo apt-get install livdvdread3
[09:37] <fritsch> eeos: after that: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[09:37] <fritsch> eeos: after this: retry
[09:38] <eeos> apt-get says: Couldn't find package livdvdread, Couldn't find package livdvdread3
[09:38] <william_> hold on
[09:38] <william_> brb and i'll tell you
[09:38] <fritsch> !libdvdread3
[09:38] <ubotu> libdvdread3: Simple foundation for reading DVDs. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.4-5.1 (dapper), package size 51 kB, installed size 168 kB
[09:38] <fritsch> eeos: it has to find
[09:39] <fritsch> eeos: sorry typo
[09:39] <fritsch> eeos: sudo apt-get install libdvdread
[09:39] <fritsch> eeos: warhg *G*
[09:39] <fritsch> eeos: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[09:39] <mcrandello> it didn't on mine either and I've got uni+ multi enabled
[09:39] <eeos> it is already in the newest version
[09:39] <fritsch> eeos: after that: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[09:40] <mcrandello> ah the sneaky typo
[09:40] <fritsch> this will install the "tools" to watch encrypted tv
[09:40] <eeos> eeos: after that: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh <- i have already done that
[09:40] <eeos> shall I do it again every time I upgrae xine or kaffeine?
[09:41] <fritsch> eeos: no
[09:41] <william_> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[09:41] <fritsch> eeos: so the problem is a other one
[09:41] <fritsch> eeos: perhaps it canniot find your cd drive
[09:42] <fritsch> eeos: open a terminal
[09:42] <william_> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[09:42] <fritsch> eeos: start xine
[09:42] <eeos> fritsch: it does find it.
[09:47] <eeos> fritsch are you still there? I lost connection
[09:47] <fritsch> yes, sorry me lost connection too
[09:47] <Jucato_Lunch> net split
[09:49] <fritsch> eeos: what does the output say?
[09:49] <unix_infidel> my my, that was fun.
[09:49] <eeos> fritsch which outtput?
[09:49] <fritsch> eeos: just starte xine in a terminal
[09:49] <fritsch> eeos: place in your DVD and click on "watch dvd"
[09:49] <fritsch> eeos: pastebin the terminal content
[09:49] <fritsch> eeos: if usefull
[09:50] <mythril> How do I set up a socks proxy in kubuntu (I would like apt-get to use my proxy)?
[09:51] <fritsch> mythril: i think apt-get does not work in a socks proxy
[09:51] <fritsch> mythril: you have a http proxy here?
[09:52] <mythril> fritsch: yes
[09:52] <fritsch> mythril: okay
[09:53] <fritsch> mythril: sudo nano /etc/apt/apt.conf
[09:53] <fritsch> mythril: second line:
[09:53] <fritsch> mythril: Acquire::http::Proxy "proxyurl:PORT";
[09:53] <mcrandello> wow I think I may have discovered a bug
[09:53] <mcrandello> xcolors: no colors to display
[09:53] <mcrandello> xcolors has run out of colors :(
[09:53] <eeos> fritsch how do I send you the output of xine?
[09:54] <fritsch> !pastebin > eeos
[09:55] <eeos> fritsch ta!
[09:56] <eeos> fritsch here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21265
[09:57] <fritsch> eeos: seems to work perfectly fine?
[09:57] <fritsch> eeos: you have the w32codecs installed?
[09:58] <eeos> fritsch why should I need the w32codecs?
[09:58] <fritsch> eeos: perhaps dvds are only displayed with these codecs?
[09:58] <fritsch> eeos: was just a suggestion
[09:58] <eeos> fritsch I did not know that!
[09:58] <fritsch> eeos: me does not know it, too
[09:58] <fritsch> eeos: but i don`t know why you don`t get a picture
[09:59] <eeos> fritsch how do I install them on amd64? I have been able to install them on a chroot
[09:59] <fritsch> eeos: the log says that this is opened
[09:59] <Jucato> Encrypted DVD's need something else, methinks
[09:59] <fritsch> eeos: ah okay, forget then about it
[09:59] <eeos> Jucato somthing else, what?
[09:59] <fritsch> Jucato: he has instelad the "non free" encryption stuff
[10:00] <Jucato> Playing Encrypted DVD's: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-38508785e53c611dde1859232189b2e823135eb9
[10:00] <Jucato> oh ok...
[10:00] <Jucato>  ^_^
[10:00] <jamadagni> hello people
[10:00] <mythril> fritsch: am I supposed to restart anything for the http proxy to work?
[10:00] <Jucato> ey hi jamadagni
[10:00] <mcrandello> the rgbpath in X is simply the path to the rgb.txt file to use, plus "rgb", right?
[10:00] <jamadagni> hello jucato
[10:00] <jamadagni> and others
[10:01] <jamadagni> is it possible to have a graphical grub menu in kubuntu like in suse?
[10:01] <Jucato> jamadagni: you need to install gfxmenu (or was it gfxgrub)
[10:01] <Jucato> unfortunately, it's not something in the repositories
[10:02] <jamadagni> well there's this package called grub-splashimages_1.0.0_all.deb
[10:02] <jamadagni> will that do?
[10:02] <jamadagni> hey and how do you do that red lines thing?
[10:02] <mcrandello> I think that's just some xpm's to use at boot time
[10:02] <Jucato> jamadagni: that's different. it's not exactly like SUSE's
[10:02] <rodrigue> SAlut !
[10:02] <jamadagni> then what is it like?
[10:02] <Jucato> when someone mentions your name, the text will turn red for you
[10:03] <Jucato> jamadagni: it just basically puts a background image in the GRUB menu, but not like SUSE's
[10:03] <Jucato> wb to the netsplitters
[10:03] <jamadagni> jucato: did your text turn red?
[10:03] <Jucato> yes
[10:03] <jamadagni> :)
[10:03] <jamadagni> ok in what way not like suse's?
[10:04] <danish> question here
[10:04] <Jucato> jamadagni: well, just a background image. think: same GRUB menu, with just a background image
[10:04] <danish> i got a messege from installing firefox extension from real rhapsody
[10:04] <Jucato> that package, btw, installs a few choices of images
[10:05] <danish> when the install begins it says out of space
[10:05] <jamadagni> jucato: ok, and suse also gives only grub menu with bkgd img
[10:05] <Jucato> but SUSE's is prettier
[10:05] <jamadagni> ah oh
[10:05] <jamadagni> you mean with all the dots running around?
[10:05] <Jucato> there's a HOWTO in Ubuntuforums for it. just search for the key word 'gfxmenu' or 'gfxgrub'
[10:05] <ballchalk> hello
[10:06] <mythril> what repositories should be enabled by default on Kubuntu?
[10:07] <mcrandello> all of em
[10:07] <jamadagni> jucato: thx i'll check there
[10:07] <Jucato> mythril: in a new installation, if you were connected to the internet during installation, I think everything that has "main" and "restricted" , except for backports... not totally sure
[10:07] <mcrandello> well, it comes with everything but universe and multiverse iirc
[10:07] <danish> can somebody answer my question plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[10:07] <Jucato> if you didn't have an internet connection during installation, no repositories will be enabled
[10:08] <ballchalk> what are backports
[10:08] <Jucato> backports = dead repositories now..
[10:08] <Jucato>  ^_^
[10:08] <mythril> Jucato: that is my problem, I wasn't connected during install, now I am, need to know which should be available
[10:08] <mcrandello> when they take something from the next version and port it back to the current one I think
[10:08] <Jucato> mythril: the repositories will be there already. they're just disabled/commented. you don't have to add anything except "multiverse"
[10:09] <jamadagni> jucato: backports dead? why?
[10:09] <Jucato> backports used to be the place where developers/maintainers would put unofficial and more recent versions of apps or added new ones
[10:10] <Jucato> jamadagni: according to the developers, it has been non-functional for quite some time now, and there might be no plans of changing it
[10:10] <mythril> Jucato: I know, I am asking which to enable
[10:10] <Jucato> mythril: you'd basically want to enable all EXCEPT: "deb-src" (unless you want to download source code), anything with "backports" in the line
[10:11] <mythril> Jucato: thank you
[10:11] <ballchalk> how do i turn off winamp style in amarok 1.4.1
[10:12] <Jucato> ballchalk: Settings > Configure Amarok > Appearance options > uncheck "Show player window"
[10:13] <ballchalk> Jucato: is this in 1.4.1?
[10:13] <ballchalk> i dont see this
[10:13] <Jucato> in all Amarok
[10:13] <ballchalk> yea
[10:14] <Jucato> err sorry
[10:14] <Jucato> I meant "Genera" options
[10:14] <Jucato> General*
[10:14] <Jucato> sorry 'bout that
[10:16] <ballchalk> Jucato: hey thanks
[10:18] <unix_infidel> hey abattoir
[10:19] <abattoir> hello unix_infidel :)
[10:21] <mythril> is there a low level way to set up linux to use a proxy for as much as it can?
[10:21] <mythril> so I don't have to configure each and every app?
[10:21] <unix_infidel> mythril: squid
[10:24] <fdoving> mythril: yes, HTTP_PROXY in /etc/environment.
[10:27] <fdoving> mythril: an example: HTTP_PROXY="http://proxy.example.com:3128"
[10:27] <Jucato> would anyone be familiar with regex in Kate's Find & Replace?
[10:28] <fritsch> mythril: have you edited apt.conf?
[10:28] <fritsch> mythril: you should not have to restart ...
[10:28] <fritsch> mythril: the low level way was explained by fdoving
[10:30] <fdoving> Jucato: looks like regular regular expressions to me.
[10:30] <Jucato> fdoving: yeah. I was hoping to replace everything enclosed in [ ]  in Kate...
[10:31] <Jucato> trying to remove 272 lines worth of time stamps... :-D
[10:31] <fdoving> ah.. from dmesg output?
[10:31] <Jucato> from a chat log
[10:31] <Jucato> ^_^
[10:31] <Jucato> last time I did it was to manually delete them line by line...
[10:32] <Jucato> unfortunately, it seems that brackets are special characters in regular expression?
[10:32] <Jucato> experssions*
[10:32] <noiesmo> Jucato, I don't know the syntax but sed I think can do it
[10:32] <noiesmo> !sed
[10:32] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:32] <Jucato> noiesmo: thanks! I'll look into it
[10:33] <Jucato> oh cool! I just stumbled on an answer on my own... @_@
[10:34] <Jucato> the regex pattern ..:..:.. will remove all everything with timestamps...
[10:34] <noiesmo> whats that Jucato
[10:34] <Jucato> Good thing Kate has a built in feature for searching using regex
[10:36] <Jucato> hmm... ubotu's link seems to be incorrect? or is the help.ubuntu.com site down?
[10:43] <abattoir> Jucato: it works for me
[10:43] <Jucato> must be my internet connection...
[10:48] <DocTomoe> Hm, Is there any known way to tell quanta to start w/o opening the previous session?
[10:58] <damian_> can anyone help me
[10:58] <fdoving> !ask
[10:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:59] <Jucato> fdoving: lol! is that a new one? hehehe
[10:59] <damian_> how do I start up programs at different runlevels
[10:59] <damian_> is there a guide somewhere
[11:01] <Synaptics> anyone tried to use photoshop cs in kubuntu?
[11:03] <thyko> is ut possible to make kb3 normalize tracks while burning on the fly?
[11:03] <jujimufu> I try to install the i810 drivers from dri.freedesktop.org and I get this error:
[11:03] <jujimufu> The DRI drivers can not be installed without the latest kernel modules.
[11:03] <jujimufu> Installation will be aborted. See the dri.log file for information on
[11:03] <jujimufu> what went wrong
[11:03] <thyko> jujimufu: your kernel is later tha required
[11:03] <jujimufu> I checked the dri.log file, and it says that there is no kernel config found in the PC
[11:03] <fdoving> jujimufu: you shouldn't need to install anything from dri.freedesktop.org
[11:04] <jujimufu> fdoving: why not?
[11:04] <thyko> older than the package requires.
[11:04] <thyko> is ut possible to make kb3 normalize tracks while burning on the fly? anyone?
[11:04] <fdoving> jujimufu: your kernel config is at /boot/config-`uname -r`
[11:05] <jujimufu> fdoving: ok, and what am I supposed to do with it? Because I went to the ubuntu wiki, to the article about re-compiling a kernel (taht is, changig the alreayd-installed kernel, not compiling one from scratch), and it was outdated, and other people said o.
[11:05] <jujimufu> *so
[11:06] <fritsch> jujimufu: why do you need new dri drivers?
[11:06] <jujimufu> fritsch: to enable DRI
[11:06] <fdoving> thyko: yes, you need to have the 'normalize-audio' package installed.
[11:06] <fritsch> jujimufu: what is your card?
[11:06] <thyko> jujimufu: why dont you just download the latest from kernel.org and compile that?
[11:07] <fritsch> jujimufu: ah i think, your "kernel modul" is just not supported
[11:07] <jujimufu> fritsch: intel 855GM, i915 drivers if I am not mistaken
[11:07] <jujimufu> thyko: I tried that, but I had problems
[11:07] <fritsch> jujimufu: this sould really work out of the box
[11:07] <jujimufu> fritsch: any ideas on how to do so?
[11:07] <fritsch> jujimufu: which driver uses your X at the moment?
[11:08] <fritsch> jujimufu: yes i know how to do it ... it will need approx 2 hours to instruct and guide you
[11:08] <jujimufu> 2 hours? because of the compilation process?
[11:08] <Synaptics> anyone tried to use photoshop cs in kubuntu???
[11:08] <fritsch> jujimufu: but the intel card should work out of the box
[11:08] <fritsch> jujimufu: yes
[11:09] <fritsch> jujimufu: could you pastebin the output from glxinfo
[11:09] <jujimufu> I see in my lsmod the following: vga16fb, agpgart, intel_agp
[11:10] <fritsch> jujimufu: sudo modprobe i915
[11:10] <fritsch> jujimufu: what is happening?
[11:10] <jujimufu> it loads it
[11:10] <jujimufu> i915 is now in my lsmod
[11:10] <fritsch> jujimufu: after that do: dmesg |grep i915
[11:10] <fritsch> jujimufu: cool!
[11:10] <jujimufu> but "direcr rendering" is still at "no" in glxinfo, meh
[11:10] <jujimufu> wait
[11:10] <fritsch> jujimufu: please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:10] <fritsch> jujimufu: i need to see your xorg.conf
[11:11] <jujimufu> wait wait
[11:12] <jujimufu> http://pastebin.ca/142149 -> glxinfo, http://pastebin.ca/142153 -> xorg.conf
[11:12] <jujimufu> and dmesg gives:
[11:12] <jujimufu> http://pastebin.ca/142153
[11:12] <jujimufu> NO
[11:12] <jujimufu> wait
[11:12] <jujimufu> it gives
[11:12] <jujimufu> [17179592.220000]  i915: Unknown parameter `/sbin/modprobe'
[11:12] <jujimufu> [17179608.784000]  [drm]  Initialized i915 1.4.0 20060119 on minor 0
[11:12] <jujimufu> [17179608.784000]  [drm]  Initialized i915 1.4.0 20060119 on minor 1
[11:12] <fritsch> jujimufu: must not be a problem
[11:13] <jujimufu> fritsch: ok
[11:13] <fritsch> jujimufu: what says: glxgears -printfps
[11:13] <fritsch> jujimufu: tz, tz, tz
[11:13] <fritsch> Mesa: CPU vendor: GenuineIntel
[11:13] <fritsch> Mesa: CPU name:         Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.40GHz
[11:13] <fritsch> Mesa: MMX cpu detected.
[11:13] <fritsch> Mesa: SSE cpu detected.
[11:13] <fritsch> Mesa: Not testing OS support for SSE, leaving enabled.
[11:13] <fritsch> display: :0  screen: 0
[11:13] <fritsch> direct rendering: Yes
[11:13] <fritsch> sorry
[11:13] <fritsch> Direct Rendering: Yes <- working perfectly fine
[11:14] <fritsch> jujimufu: sudo echo i915 >> /etc/modules
[11:14] <jujimufu> hey!
[11:14] <jujimufu> that was't working before!
[11:14] <fritsch> jujimufu: reboot and you are fine
[11:14] <fritsch> jujimufu: yes your kernel modul was not loaded
[11:14] <unix_infidel> fritsch: when you do an append like that. it does it after the current EOF right?
[11:14] <fritsch> jujimufu: do the command from aboe
[11:14] <jujimufu> aboe?
[11:14] <Mandalf> Hello All
[11:15] <fritsch> unix_infidel: yes, just before the NEW EOF
[11:15] <Mandalf> Huw to install a FTP-server on ubuntu?
[11:15] <fritsch> jujimufu: please add i915 to /etc/modules
[11:15] <fritsch> jujimufu: restart your computer and look if it stills works
[11:15] <jujimufu> fritsch: it says "permission denied" although I do it with sudo
[11:15] <fritsch> jujimufu: sudo nano /etc/modules
[11:15] <eeos> fritsch I have done some experiments, everything works .... but the screen is still balnk!
[11:15] <Mandalf> Im sitting in a terminal
[11:15] <Mandalf> I want to install a FTP-server
[11:15] <eeos> fritsch that is very strange
[11:16] <fritsch> jujimufu: add i915 behind
[11:16] <fritsch> eeos: mmh :-( shit my brain
[11:16] <fritsch> eeos: what did we do before?
[11:16] <jujimufu> there is the following: "i915 /sbin/modprobe "-k" "intel_agp"
[11:16] <fritsch> eeos: just helped at least 10 people, sorry cannot remember
[11:16] <eeos> fritsch sorry! I apologise
[11:16] <fritsch> jujimufu: delete this line
[11:17] <fritsch> jujimufu: and just place here i915
[11:17] <jujimufu> and add "i915" ?
[11:17] <jujimufu> ok
[11:17] <eeos> fritsch rying to have kaffeine/xine reading dvds on amd64
[11:17] <jujimufu> so, reboot now and it should work?
[11:17] <fritsch> jujimufu: ah okay
[11:17] <fritsch> eeos: what graphics driver do you use?
[11:17] <Mandalf> Can someone help me?
[11:17] <fritsch> eeos: fglrx?
[11:17] <fritsch> Mandalf: it depends
[11:17] <jujimufu> fritsch: thanks a million :D :D
[11:17] <eeos> fritsch yes fglrx
[11:17] <fritsch> jujimufu: just wait for the reboot *G* the million i will take
[11:18] <fritsch> jujimufu: could just be XV overlay problem
[11:18] <eeos> fritsch are there fglrx related problems?
[11:18] <fritsch> eeos: open a terminal
[11:18] <jujimufu> Mandalf: sudo apt-get install proftpd
[11:18] <jujimufu> !proftpd
[11:18] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.10-27ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 351 kB, installed size 1052 kB
[11:18] <fritsch> eeos: sudo aticonfig overlay-type=Xv
[11:18] <jujimufu> Mandalf: visit http://www.proftpd.org/ for documentation, though
[11:19] <jujimufu> aaaaand, reboot! w00t!
[11:19] <eeos> fritsch done
[11:19] <eeos> fritsch what is that?
[11:19] <fritsch> eeos: koay, now restart kdm
[11:19] <eeos> fritsch from scratch?
[11:19] <fritsch> eeos: it says that the driver sould use XV overlay instead of GL
[11:19] <fritsch> eeos: if you can just reboot *g*
[11:19] <eeos> fritsch ok
[11:19] <fritsch> eeos: or /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[11:20] <fritsch> eeos: CTRL ALT Backspace might help, too *G*
[11:20] <mroq> k
[11:20] <eeos> fritsch see you later then
[11:20] <fritsch> eeos: but save your settings, we have to restart the x server
[11:24] <mroq> anyone speaks in polish? i've got a little problem with my graphic and wireless under kubuntu 6
[11:25] <jujimufu> fritsch: um... the kubuntu splash screen loads just fine, but then, instead of loading X, I get a black screen. Any ideas?
[11:25] <fritsch> jujimufu: what have you booted now?
[11:26] <fritsch> jujimufu: can you login on a shell?
[11:27] <fritsch> jujimufu: did you do sth. "overwriting" stuff with your hand compiled  dri stuff?
[11:27] <DocTomoe> How can I delete a subdirectory recursively? I acidentally checked out a source tree and uploaded it to a server, now I have to get rid of all .svn subdirectories.
[11:27] <fritsch> DocTomoe: rm -r "DIRECTORY"
[11:28] <fritsch> DocTomoe: rm -r .svn*
[11:28] <jujimufu> fritsch: I don't remember if I did. I might as well have
[11:28] <fritsch> jujimufu: mmmh, have you bootet kubuntu now?
[11:28] <DocTomoe> fritsch: I do not want to delete a DIRECTORY, but a given subdirectory in every branch of a directory tree
[11:28] <fritsch> jujimufu: no, I thinkg *g*
[11:28] <jujimufu> fritsch: and no, I can't login on a shell via a console, as no combination of Alt+Ctrl+F# works..
[11:28] <jujimufu> fritsch: no, I am on another windows (ewwww) box
[11:28] <fritsch> jujimufu: okay, so we have to rescue
[11:29] <fritsch> DocTomoe: ah okay
[11:29] <jujimufu> fritsch: I have the kubuntu live cd, wait until I get it to boot
[11:29] <fritsch> jujimufu: boot up with the kubuntu live cd and chroot in
[11:29] <fritsch> jujimufu: yes okay
[11:29] <jujimufu> fritsch: God, I wonder how you can manage all those people together :)
[11:30] <fritsch> DocTomoe: so you have .svn1 .svn2 etc. and there is a subdir in every folder?
[11:30] <fritsch> DocTomoe: f. ex. .svn1/TEST .svn2/TEST etc.
[11:30] <DocTomoe> fritsch: I have a images/.svn, a templates/.svn and so on, and I want to get rid of the .svn's
[11:30] <fritsch> DocTomoe: okay
[11:31] <fritsch> DocTomoe: a script like: for all dirs in myDirectory delete all subdirs .svn recursively, if the exist
[11:32] <DocTomoe> fritsch: exactly ... sorry, my english is not that great :)
[11:32] <fritsch> DocTomoe: mine, too
[11:32] <fritsch> DocTomoe: what is your native language?
[11:32] <fritsch> DocTomoe: a "bash script" is the way to go
[11:32] <fritsch> DocTomoe: alternatively *g* the easy way
[11:32] <jujimufu> fritsch: wouldn't rm -r *.svn work?
[11:32] <fritsch> jujimufu: no
[11:33] <fritsch> jujimufu: this will delete every file, which ends in .svn
[11:33] <fritsch> jujimufu: perhaps */.svn/ :-)
[11:33] <fritsch> jujimufu: but i test first
[11:33] <jujimufu> fritsch: oh, ok :)
[11:33] <jujimufu> fritsch: so, I booted. Whenever you are available,. tell me
[11:34] <fritsch> DocTomoe: yes, this works
[11:34] <qweasd> Huw to set up users on vsftpd in terminal
[11:34] <qweasd> ?
[11:35] <fritsch> rm -r */.svn BUT DONT make space between * and so on
[11:35] <DocTomoe> fritsch: rm -rf */.svn? Will this also work with /images/foo/.svn?
[11:35] <fritsch> jujimufu: okay iam right here
[11:35] <qweasd> !vsftpd
[11:35] <ubotu> vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 107 kB, installed size 404 kB
[11:35] <fritsch> DocTomoe: no
[11:35] <fritsch> DocTomoe: it only does the first "ebene" then look for / ... so on
[11:35] <jujimufu> fritsch: ok. I've chrooted. What do I need to change? (btw, glxgears was working just fine before)
[11:36] <fritsch> jujimufu: sudo nano /etc/X11/modules
[11:36] <fritsch> jujimufu: sorry
[11:36] <fritsch> jujimufu: sudo nano /etc/modules
[11:36] <jujimufu> fritsch: yeah.
[11:36] <fritsch> jujimufu: just BEFORE, a line over i915
[11:36] <fritsch> jujimufu: write intel_agp
[11:37] <jujimufu> fritsch: done. Save and reboot?
[11:37] <fritsch> jujimufu: yes, logout the chroot, umount and reboot
[11:37] <jujimufu> fritsch: roger that :)
[11:38] <jujimufu> fritsch: btw, have you ever worked with xaamp?
[11:38] <fritsch> DocTomoe: you need a perl regex, which goes 0,1,...,n deep in the dirs
[11:38] <fritsch> jujimufu: what is this?
[11:38] <DocTomoe> fritsch: well, then it's time for learning the arcane arts of shellscripting. Thanks,nevertheless
[11:38] <fritsch> DocTomoe: yes ;-)
[11:38] <jujimufu> fritsch: oh, it's some bundle with apache, php and mysql servers for your PC
[11:38] <fritsch> DocTomoe: it is a godd think to learn
[11:38] <fritsch> DocTomoe: but there is an easy way
[11:39] <DocTomoe> fritsch: sorry, no Nrnberger Trichter availible here ;)
[11:39] <fritsch> jujimufu: ah okay *G* just instelled everything separately, htought it was called lamp
[11:39] <fritsch> DocTomoe: lol
[11:39] <jujimufu> fritsch: yeah :) it used to be called laamp, but now -for some reason- they call it xaamp
[11:39] <fritsch> DocTomoe: klick mal auf ads kde icon, mache "suchen nach dateien und orndern" und gib .svn ein
[11:39] <fritsch> DocTomoe: dann alle Ergebnisse lschen *G* (sorry for german)
[11:39] <DocTomoe> fritsch: das problem ist: die Dateien liegen auf einem server, ber den ich nur per ssh kontrolle habe
[11:40] <fritsch> DocTomoe: okay ;-) fish is your friend
[11:40] <fritsch> DocTomoe: einfach im konqueror per fish ne ssh verbindung machen
[11:40] <jujimufu> fritsch: well, I am having problems, because, after installing xaamp, having downloaded e107 (e107.org), I tried opening the install.php script with firefox (which opened just fine the xaamp menu), it couldn't open it :/
[11:40] <fritsch> DocTomoe: einfach sftp://HOST eingeben
[11:41] <fritsch> jujimufu: what do you want to do with the instal script?
[11:41] <DocTomoe> oh man, I love that network transparency thing
[11:41] <DocTomoe> that should have been soooo obvious
[11:41] <DocTomoe> thanks!
[11:41] <jujimufu> fritsch: install the e107 cms or whatever is on my PC so I can make my site there, and then upload it on some web server.
[11:41] <fritsch> DocTomoe: no problem :-) just invite me for beer drinking *g*
[11:41] <fritsch> jujimufu: okay
[11:42] <fritsch> jujimufu: have you set up mysql correctly?
[11:42] <jujimufu> fritsch: can't really tell, I just noticed: I still get the black screen :/
[11:42] <fritsch> jujimufu: chroot in again
[11:42] <fritsch> jujimufu: chane /etc/X11/xorg.conf from i915 to vesa
[11:42] <eeos> fritsch no improvment. could you please give me the command again to move from xv to gl?
[11:43] <fritsch> eeos: just sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:43] <fritsch> eeos: and look for "overlay"
[11:43] <DocTomoe> fritsch: Will be glad to ... just inform me when you are in the Mainz/Wiesbaden area...
[11:43] <jujimufu> fritsch: wait. my xorg.conf has i810, if I remember well. Do you mean /etc/modules?
[11:43] <fritsch> eeos: try to use the radeon modul
[11:43] <Synaptics> anyone can help me out. have anyone tried to use photoshop cs in kubuntu???
[11:43] <eeos> fritsch radeon module?
[11:43] <fritsch> jujimufu: no change i810 to vesa in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:44] <jujimufu> fritsch: ok ok
[11:44] <fritsch> jujimufu: and remove i915 and intel_agp from /etc/modules
[11:44] <jujimufu> fritsch: wait
[11:44] <DocTomoe> Synaptics: Won't work with wine, but I heard Crossover may help
[11:44] <fritsch> eeos: yes, use the radeon display driver instead of fglrx
[11:44] <Synaptics> DocTomoe: where can i get crossover?
[11:44] <fritsch> eeos: just for testing ...
[11:44] <eeos> fritsch I thought fglrx was the radeon module
[11:44] <DocTomoe> Synaptics: Crossover is a commercial product of http://www.codeweavers.com/
[11:45] <fritsch> eeos: no it is the proprietary display driver from ATI
[11:45] <fritsch> eeos: change /etc/X11/xorg.conf fglrx to radeon
[11:45] <fritsch> eeos: you won`t have 3d accelartion, but we can try the dvd thing
[11:45] <eeos> fritsch ok, then restart kdm?
[11:45] <DocTomoe> Synaptics: you might want to check the compatibility database at http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/cat before buying
[11:45] <fritsch> eeos: if it works, we build ne ati drivers ;-)
[11:45] <fritsch> eeos: yes
[11:46] <fritsch> eeos: please
[11:46] <Synaptics> thanks DocTomoe . i'll check it out
[11:47] <eeos> fritsch eeos: if it works, we build ne ati drivers ;-) I do not understand that
[11:47] <fritsch> DocTomoe: Mainz is not very far from Karlsruhe, or is it? no
[11:47] <fritsch> eeos: if this works, then this is an ati fglrx issue
[11:47] <fritsch> eeos: so we build new fglrx driver from source
[11:47] <eeos> fritsch ah! understand
[11:48] <nidal> hi all !!! I know this has been discussed a lot but couldnt get an answer thats why this post
[11:48] <julien> Good morning
[11:49] <fritsch> nidal: how can we help you?
[11:49] <nidal> whenever I try to use apt-get , synaptic or adept  to install(behind proxy) , I get a "403 Forbidden" error
[11:49] <JohnFlux_> how lude!
[11:49] <fritsch> nidal: mmh perhaps your proxy blocks it?
[11:49] <nidal> no , I have confirmed it
[11:49] <fritsch> nidal: you can visit the urls in the browser?
[11:49] <Synaptics> DocTomoe: i checked out the site you gave me. it said known not to work..............any other software recommended to run adobe photoshop cs
[11:49] <JohnFlux_> nidal: which server?
[11:50] <nidal> yes,
[11:50] <nidal> I can visit through firefox
[11:50] <fritsch> nidal: what is your /etc/apt/apt.conf
[11:50] <nidal> and download the deb manually and install
[11:50] <fritsch> nidal: is this the same proxy as in firefox
[11:50] <fritsch> nidal: how do you set your proxy?
[11:50] <nidal> ACQUIRE {
[11:50] <nidal> http::proxy "http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000/"
[11:50] <nidal> }
[11:50] <nidal> I tried with blank /etc/apt/apt.conf also , but same issue
[11:51] <nidal> one more thing
[11:51] <nidal> all the ftp mirrors pass through without any problem
[11:51] <nidal> but http is causing problem
[11:51] <fritsch> nidal: just try it this way: Acquire::http::Proxy "http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000";
[11:51] <DocTomoe> Synaptics: How about MacOSX, then? The Windows Emulation market is pretty thin (Wine, Crossover, CeDeGa)
[11:51] <nidal> I went through googling thoroughly and came to know that many many people  have faced this problem
[11:51] <fritsch> without the { in one line
[11:51] <fritsch> without and without the / at last
[11:52] <buz> !strigi
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about strigi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <fdoving> nidal: did you try to set the proxy in /etc/environment, with HTTP_PROXY="http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000" - then use a blank apt.conf ?
[11:52] <dbglt>   realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable
[11:52] <jujimufu> fritsch: I get some jibberish on top, and the rest of the screen is black
[11:52] <fritsch> eeos: working?
[11:52] <dbglt> any idea how to fix that? :\
[11:52] <jujimufu> dbglt: download and install xlibx by hand
[11:52] <fritsch> jujimufu: ohh *G* i think you have terribly messed up with "handly" installing the i915
[11:52] <fritsch> jujimufu: can you login?
[11:53] <jujimufu> fritsch: no, chrooting again :)
[11:53] <nidal> fritsch, I tried that also , but same issue
 Synaptics: How about MacOSX, then? The Windows Emulation market is pretty thin (Wine, Crossover, CeDeGa)<---- im using a pc
[11:53] <fritsch> jujimufu: okay chroot again, change vesa to i810 again
[11:53] <fritsch> jujimufu: retry
[11:53] <nidal> fdoving, I have tried that and failed
[11:54] <fritsch> nidal: you tried this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186455&highlight=403+Forbidden
[11:54] <DocTomoe> Synaptics: Is there no way to achieve your goals with something other than photoshop? I heard krita was useable, or gimp.
[11:54] <DocTomoe> Synaptics: both can read psd (I am not sure if they can write them...)
[11:54] <fritsch> nidal: they suggest chaning http to ftp
[11:54] <fritsch> nidal: i read further
[11:55] <Synaptics> thanks anyway
[11:55] <nidal> fritsch, I have that page already opened with me and tried that also
[11:55] <nidal> the issue with that is that there are some mirrors without any ftp , what to do with those ?
[11:55] <jujimufu> dbglt: google for: xlibs-static and xlibs
[11:55] <nidal> and becoz of this issue , tools like "easyubuntu" and "automatix" are failing
[11:55] <fritsch> nidal: yes i know, i just search
[11:56] <frootstripe> f
[11:56] <nidal> fritsch , its really amazing man !! no solution yet for such an issue :)
[11:56] <fritsch> nidal: i have another solution
[11:56] <nidal> please tell
[11:56] <fritsch> nidal: Acquire::::Proxy "false";
[11:57] <nidal> dude !!! I have tried that also
[11:57] <fritsch> nidal: do this, which DISABLES proxy
[11:57] <fritsch> nidal: and export your proxy in /etc/environment
[11:57] <nidal> ohhhh I missed the second step
[11:57] <nidal> no , but I have set up proxy in system level
[11:57] <nidal> is that you want
[11:57] <nidal> I mean
[11:57] <nidal> export http_proxy=<IP_ADDRESS>:8000
[11:57] <nidal> ?
[11:57] <fritsch> nidal: yes
[11:58] <fritsch> nidal: and what happens now?
[11:58] <fdoving> nidal: with http://
[11:58] <fritsch> nidal: sudo apt-get update possible?
[11:58] <nidal> I had tried that also man
[11:58] <fritsch> nidal: yes with http, please
[11:58] <fritsch> nidal: set apt.conf proxy on false and enable it system wide
[11:58] <nidal> enable what ?
[11:58] <nidal> please clarify
[11:58] <fritsch> nidal: okay
[11:59] <fdoving> ok, i need to setup at test environment for this. I can't belive this is a bug in apt.
[11:59] <fritsch> nidal: /etc/apt/apt.conf set Acquire::::Proxy "false";
[11:59] <fdoving> nidal: hang on, seting up squid.
[11:59] <nidal> ok
[11:59] <fritsch> nidal: in /etc/environment add http_proxy=http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000"
[11:59] <fritsch> nidal: in /etc/environment add http_proxy="http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000"
[11:59] <fritsch> nidal: after new login, give it a try
[11:59] <fdoving> nidal: you are aware of that changes in /etc/environment needs a re-login to be activated?
[12:00] <fritsch> nidal: do what fdoving suggests ;-) re log in
[12:00] <nidal> a "source /etc/environment" would do right?
[12:00] <fritsch> nidal: sudo nano /etc/environment
[12:01] <fritsch> nidal: environment has nothing to do with apt
[12:01] <nidal> I understand that
[12:01] <fritsch> eeos: still there?
[12:01] <jujimufu> fritsch: black screen again. I will try and uninstall any changes I did.
[12:01] <fdoving> nidal: yes. source would do it. you can check with 'env|grep -i proxy'
[12:01] <eeos> fritsch yes, I need to finish something beafore having another go
[12:01] <nidal> its fine
[12:01] <fritsch> jujimufu: we undid every change "we two" have done
[12:01] <fritsch> eeos: okay
[12:01] <nidal> root@pirana:~# echo $http_proxy
[12:01] <nidal> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000
[12:02] <fritsch> nidal: okay
[12:02] <fritsch> nidal: now do: sudo apt-get update
[12:02] <beazely> are ata timeouts a known issue with kernel 2.6.15-26-686? i went back to 2.6.15-25-686 and they stopped, it causes a couple of second system freeze everytime it happens
[12:02] <fritsch> nidal: and this does not work
[12:02] <Synaptics> hello, i just remembered..........how do i check my status on my Lan/wireless. example.........in windows there is usually a small icon on the taskbar if we're connected or not...........any ideas if there are anything similar as that in kubuntu?
[12:02] <nidal> it does NOT buddy
[12:02] <fritsch> Synaptics: sudo apt-get install kwirelessmonitor
[12:02] <nidal> I had tried all these several times
[12:03] <fritsch> nidal: with the same errors
[12:03] <jujimufu> fritsch: yeah, i figured. That's why I will try and undo what I did before coming here...
[12:03] <Synaptics> thank you fritsch
[12:03] <nidal> fritsch , with the same error
[12:03] <fritsch> nidal: mmmh try to delete the whole PROXY line in /etc/apt.conf
[12:03] <fritsch> nidal: this causes problems for some users
[12:03] <fritsch> nidal: please try
[12:04] <nidal> I had (and have now) tried that also
[12:04] <nidal> but SAME problem
[12:04] <nidal> infact what I understand from my (extensive) googling is that many people have faced this and they have tried all these
[12:04] <nidal> but some have not been able to get it done with all these
[12:05] <fritsch> nidal: you are one of these i think
[12:05] <nidal> indeed :)
[12:05] <nidal> and I am not alone
[12:05] <fritsch> nidal: mmh "just a shot in the blue" *g* wait
[12:05] <fritsch> nidal: sudo ifconfig ethX mtu 1452
[12:05] <nidal> there are many guys in my office would like to migrate to kubuntu
[12:05] <fritsch> nidal: where ethX ist your network device
[12:05] <nidal> and all of them are getting stuck at this point
[12:05] <fdoving> nidal: this works for me.
[12:07] <fdoving> nidal: 'sudo -s' to get a root shell,  then: export http_proxy="http://proxy.ip:3128" and then 'apt-get update'. this works.
[12:08] <fritsch> fdoving: i think he has found an apt bug, many have this
[12:08] <fritsch> fdoving: he is doing it all right, i think
[12:08] <nidal> I am already sodoED to -i
[12:08] <nidal> and exported the proxy already
[12:08] <nidal> now trying "apt-get update"
[12:09] <jujimufu> fritsch: ok, I think I am d00med. In the "common" directory of files I tried to install, there is only an install.sh file, and no uninstall file...
[12:09] <fdoving> 99% [Connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[12:09] <fdoving> says my apt.-
[12:09] <fritsch> nidal: you need to authentificate with the proxy? username, owd?
[12:09] <fritsch> jujimufu: sh install.sh ..uninstall
[12:09] <fritsch> jujimufu: yes you are :-)
[12:09] <fritsch> jujimufu: NEVER overwrite debian installations
[12:10] <fritsch> jujimufu: google fro dri-common uninstall
[12:10] <fritsch> jujimufu: and everything had just worked, if you had modprobed i915
[12:11] <fritsch> jujimufu: mmmh, lets try to fix it
[12:11] <nidal> fritsch, no authentication
[12:11] <fritsch> jujimufu: sudo apt-get install rcconf (in your chroot shell)
[12:11] <nidal> I am trying apt-get update
[12:11] <fritsch> jujimufu: sudo rcconf
[12:11] <nidal> and result is promising
[12:11] <fritsch> jujimufu: disable kdm from starting
[12:11] <Synaptics> fritsch:  what happens if we overwrite debian installations?
[12:11] <nidal> now I am not getting any 403 errors
[12:12] <fritsch> nidal: if this is working you have done something terrible wrong in /etc/entironment
[12:12] <jujimufu> fritsch: um.. I try to apt-get from the chrooted, and I get this: "sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()"
[12:12] <fritsch> nidal: check /etc/environment for the correct entries
[12:12] <fritsch> jujimufu: yes this sucks ;-)
[12:12] <nidal> fritsch, I have not changed those things from default except setting up proxy
[12:13] <nidal> I think what corrected the problem is "ifconfig eth0 mtu 1452"
[12:13] <fritsch> nidal: yes the default proxy in /etc/apt.conf make problems, the False line which is now away, i think
[12:13] <fdoving> nidal: could it be upper/lowercase http_proxy vs HTTP_PROXY ?
[12:13] <fritsch> nidal: hehe *G* cool
[12:13] <fritsch> fdoving: it is the mtu ;-) hehe
[12:13] <nidal> I tried both UPPER and lower man
[12:13] <nidal> i think its the mtu
[12:13] <fritsch> nidal: hehe mtu *g* how cool
[12:13] <fdoving> hah :)
[12:13] <fritsch> nidal: then hardcode the mtu in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:13] <nidal> now still I have some errors , but those are specific ones like dupicate entries and all
[12:14] <nidal> I need to clear up my /etc/apt/sources.list to a good list
[12:14] <nidal> can you suggest me one ?
[12:14] <fritsch> mtu 1452
[12:14] <fritsch> nidal: you are running kubuntu?
[12:14] <nidal> I need all non-free packages like mp3 , w32 etc
[12:14] <fritsch> nidal: on an i386?
[12:14] <nidal> yes KUBUNTU
[12:14] <nidal> yaaa
[12:14] <fdoving> !source-o-matic
[12:14] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:14] <nidal> IBM thinkpad
[12:14] <nidal> I had seen that page also
[12:14] <fritsch> nidal: wget http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~unatk/sources.list
[12:15] <jujimufu> fritsch: dri.freedesktop.org is driving me crazy: tehre is not one page entitled "remove" or "uninstall"
[12:15] <nidal> ok , I will try this
[12:15] <nidal> but please tell me one thing