[14:37] <thumper> I'm loving the new battery life in precise
[19:51] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:50] <Atamira> morning
[20:56] <ojwb> morning
[21:10] <ajmitch> morning
[21:10] <ajmitch> thumper: I'm getting <2 hours on mine now
[21:35] <ibeardslee> ajmitch: is that an increase or decrease?
[21:36] <mwhudson> i hear all these stories about how well precise works
[21:39] <ajmitch> ibeardslee: decrease, but I switched to free ati drivers


[15:06] <dakj> hello guy, from 2 weeks received that error each time I deploy openstack-base from juju-gui. the issue is on neutron-gateway (Status: error - hook failed: "config-changed") as reported the picture https://pasteboard.co/GDEmj8y.png
[15:08] <rick_h> dakj: have to check what juju debug-log shows there when it fails. You can also juju ssh neutron-gateway/14 and look at /var/log/juju/unit-neutron-gatewayxxxxx.log and look at what failed?
[15:14] <dakj> rick_h: here is it http://paste.ubuntu.com/25220561/
[15:15] <dakj> rick_h: sorry I wrong!!!
[15:15] <rick_h> dakj: ah ok. Yea looks like subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['ip', 'link', 'set', u'eth1', 'up']' returned non-zero exit status 1 is the error
[15:16] <rick_h> but I don't know enough of the setup/charm to suggest how to work around/with that
[15:28] <dakj> rick_h: it's strange because I made the same lab 2 weeks ago and it worked well. it's the fourth time I remade that and the issue is always the same


[00:12] <mysteriousdarren> Unit193: I got it back, and finally remembered my password
[00:31] <Derpyeah> Anyone here?
[00:31] <Derpyeah> I need help
[00:39] <mysteriousdarren> there are 69 other people, ask your question as clear and concise as possible
[00:45] <Derpyeah> I am trying to install action replay dsi pc code manager in wine
[00:46] <Derpyeah> I installed it in playonlinux and it works perfectly except that it won't detect when the Action Replay is connected via Usb
[00:46] <Derpyeah> I tried to install directly in wine but now I'm getting a load failed and still nothing is detected.
[00:46] <Derpyeah> Does anyone have any tips?
[00:48] <Combat_Wombat> lol
[00:48] <Combat_Wombat> this channel is great
[01:17] <mysteriousdarren> patience
[08:31] <Gazra> Hello, anyone here?
[08:31] <Gazra> I would like to improve the Lubuntu user experience
[08:32] <Gazra> I have been using Lubuntu for 2 years now, and for every new installation I need to highly customize.
[08:33] <Gazra> I would like to make my cutomizations permanent, so that other can benefit from them too.
[08:33] <Gazra> Any advice where I can do this?
[08:36] <tsimpson> !remaster | Gazra
[08:37] <tsimpson> you can spin your own custom ISOs
[08:37] <Gazra> Well, that's nice, but I would like to do it for the standard Lubuntu distro.
[08:38] <tsimpson> then you'd want to report a bug in Launchpad against lubuntu-meta
[08:38] <tsimpson> or possibly several bugs
[08:42] <Gazra> Wishes qulify as bugs?
[08:44] <tsimpson> yes
[08:44] <tsimpson> you can even mark them as Wishlist
[15:39] <poq> Hi all. Does any printable info which I can print exist which could men that my OS is legal?
[15:39] <poq> mean*
[15:43] <inductiveload> poq: legal?
[15:43] <poq> yes
[15:43] <poq>  I need that info to show it to some stupid instances of policemans to make them believe that my OS and soft are ok
[15:45] <inductiveload> well, things can be under various licences
[15:45] <inductiveload> the kenrel itself is GPLv2
[15:47] <inductiveload> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/COPYING
[15:49] <inductiveload> of course you might still have proprietary drivers, and each program you have could be under a different licence
[15:54] <inductiveload> and that doesn't include things like encryption software (ssh, for example) which could be illegal regardless of licence
[15:54] <inductiveload> depending on where you are
[15:58] <poq> all looks harder than I thought
[15:59] <inductiveload> back in a bit
[17:16] <markveidemanis> hi
[17:16] <markveidemanis> Who is Expert
[17:22] <markveidemanis>  /kick
[17:22] <markveidemanis> whoops wrong window
[17:28] <markveidemanis> HELLO!?
[21:18] <Analogymous> Hello
[21:18] <Analogymous> I am experiencing a bug with 12.10 and nvidia-173 drivers
[21:19] <Analogymous> it is not compatible with xserver-xorg-abi-11 and 12
[21:19] <Analogymous> anyone knows a fix?
[21:27] <dencrypt> Analogymous: try another driver
[21:28] <Analogymous> Tried -current which doesn't support my graphics card
[21:28] <Analogymous> don't think -96 is compatible either
[21:28] <dencrypt> Have you tried Nouveau?
[21:33] <Analogymous> I run nouveau but it crashes a lot
[21:34] <Analogymous> I am trying some games but even the lightest of them crashes


[00:03] <soaringsky> Cheesehead failed to generate much traffic
[00:18] <Cheesehead> I thought three comments was a wild success for this channel
[00:22] <soaringsky> lol
[00:22] <Cheesehead> Ooh! Four now.
[00:22] <soaringsky> five
[00:23] <Cheesehead> It's a party!
[00:24] <soaringsky> how is your ubuntu membership coming along?
[00:25] <Cheesehead> I got it. I've posted a couple times to Planet Ubuntu, I'm helping out at the Wausau event next week, and keeping Brainstorm tottering along.
[00:25] <Cheesehead> So I try to stay engaged
[00:25] <soaringsky> cool
[00:26] <Cheesehead> Though with the weather nice, who wants to sit around typing?
[00:26] <soaringsky> yeah, I couldn't believe how warm it was
[00:27] <soaringsky> just a few weeks ago we had snow
[00:27] <soaringsky> I guess my ski season is over...
[00:27] <Cheesehead> Reckon so...
[00:28] <soaringsky> sunburst semi-officially is done
[00:29] <Cheesehead> sunburst?
[00:29] <soaringsky> I barely made it out enough times to justify my season pass
[00:29] <Cheesehead> Oh, *that* subnurst
[00:29] <soaringsky> sunburst is a ski hill in kewaskum
[00:30] <Cheesehead> Some day I must teach the kids to ski...though with expected climate change I suppose waterskiing would be a better choice.
[00:30] <soaringsky> lol
[00:31] <soaringsky> one of these days I'll become an ubuntu member...
[00:32] <soaringsky> I've worked hundreds of bugs in the past week
[00:32] <Cheesehead> Awesome! I've reopened one that was erroneously pushed to Brainstorm.
[00:33] <Cheesehead> The Release meeting this week had a lot of nasty Critical bugs.
[00:33] <soaringsky> recently I cleaned out the dapper and jaunty bugtasks
[00:33] <Cheesehead> I saw the note about Dapper.
[00:34] <Cheesehead> Thank you. That was a big, dirty job that nevertheless needed to be done.
[00:34] <soaringsky> of the 60ish dapper bugtasks, only one was still a valid bug
[00:34] <soaringsky> ubuntu has tens of thousands of really old bugs that need to be cleaned
[00:34] <soaringsky> I recently closed a few *breezy* bugs
[00:35] <Cheesehead> How about you have an Event for the LoCo to attack a pile of them?
[00:36] <Cheesehead> Every time I ask, people say they're interested in bugs.
[00:36] <Cheesehead> You caould provide a bit of direction and mentoring
[00:36] <soaringsky> sure. I'm also gonna pick the brains of #ubuntu-bugs on ways to deal with old bugs
[00:37] <Cheesehead> If the time is convenient, I'll be here for it.
[00:37] <soaringsky> we also of thousands of bugs for packages that only exist in hardy, and were later dropped. those bugs will never get fixed
[00:38] <Cheesehead> So some just need to be tagged, then a script can auto-comment and close them?
[00:39] <Cheesehead> (or we could get fancy with launchpadlib)
[00:39] <soaringsky> probably
[00:39] <soaringsky> but the problem is that every bug is unique
[00:40] <soaringsky> I could write a script to find hardy-only packages
[00:40] <Cheesehead> Quite true. I only suggest mass-comments/closings  for specific limited curcumstances.
[00:42] <soaringsky> you probably do a script to comment on really old bugs and ask if they still exist. set status to incomplete
[00:42] <Cheesehead> I would be quite annoyed if a bug I files was 'botted.
[00:42]  * Cheesehead chastises his fumbly fingers for spelling
[00:43] <soaringsky> true. but in my experience with old bugs, you only hear back is less than 5% of cases
[00:43] <Cheesehead> Agreed. Been there...
[00:43] <soaringsky> and you kind of need to know if a bug still exists in order to fix it...
[00:44] <Cheesehead> True
[00:44] <Cheesehead> Is Old Bugs the main interest right now?
[00:44] <soaringsky> for me it is... I'm on a mission
[00:45] <soaringsky> ubuntu is drowning in bugs
[00:45] <Cheesehead> I think you should share the mission. Some of us in the LoCo are willing to help.
[00:46] <soaringsky> definitely
[00:47] <Cheesehead> Okay, I declare you to be in charge of the WI LoCo Old Bugs Project.
[00:47] <soaringsky> accepted
[00:48] <Cheesehead> How about you send a message to the e-mail list "Hey, I'm starting the WI LoCo Old Bugs Project..."
[00:48] <soaringsky> will do
[00:49] <Cheesehead> "Join me in IRC on blah day/time, and we'll get started..."
[00:49] <Cheesehead> "I'll show you the ropes..."
[00:49] <Cheesehead> "Our goal is to close (achievable number) in (month or year)"
[00:49] <Cheesehead> I'm quite sure h00k will be happy to bless such a project.
[00:50] <soaringsky> how bout we all join 5-a-day?
[00:50] <Cheesehead> An excellent idea!
[00:51] <Cheesehead> (Though not for me. I wouldn't be able to keep that pace)
[00:51] <Cheesehead> Some days I can do lots, other days none. I can average a few a day...
[00:52] <soaringsky> 5-a-day will be great for keeping score
[00:52] <Cheesehead> Ah, true! I had forgotten about that aspect.
[00:53] <soaringsky> 5-a-day also lets you do 5/7 days per week, for weekly scores
[00:53] <Cheesehead> In that case, an even better Idea, and I will join.
[00:56] <Cheesehead> There. I just joined.
[01:00] <soaringsky> ttyl


[03:53] <gnomefreak> ;)
[03:54] <Buttons> hi gnome
[03:54] <gnomefreak> hi Buttons
[03:54] <Buttons> cute
[03:55] <gnomefreak> :P
[03:56] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: are you around?
[03:56] <Buttons> sees faces
[09:56] <AlexLatchford> Am now..
[02:12] <DarkMageZ> gnomefreak, hey. i've been playing around with your firefox trunk package. a few odd things i noticed tho... no search engines by default? this is using the same profile as my normal firefox.
[02:13] <gnomefreak> DarkMageZ: thats normal
[02:13] <gnomefreak> DarkMageZ: you have to add the search engine to it
[02:13] <DarkMageZ> gnomefreak, even the offical trunk builds from mozilla include google by default don't they?
[02:15] <gnomefreak> no
[02:15] <gnomefreak> this is a trunk build
[02:29] <AlexLatchford> gnomefreak: you called last night?
[02:29] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: are you free on may 1 1800 for meeting?
[02:29] <AlexLatchford> should be
[02:30] <AlexLatchford> I cleaned up the last meeting notes and started a new agenda last week
[02:30] <AlexLatchford> :)
[02:30] <AlexLatchford> Working on starting up a new team currently
[02:33] <gnomefreak> ok
[02:56] <gnomefreak> hes gone :(
[02:56] <gnomefreak> i just had time to find the changelog
[03:29] <gnomefreak> to close or not to close that is the damn question
[03:34] <gnomefreak> asac: you around?
[09:34] <Naddiseo> So how do I import my evolution mailbox(es) into thunderbird?
[09:39] <asac> Naddiseo: good question :)
[09:39] <asac> Naddiseo: what format are they?
[09:39] <Naddiseo> ERr
[09:39] <Naddiseo> they don't have an extension
[09:39] <asac> yeah :)
[09:39] <asac> how does content look like?
[09:39] <asac> maybe try to run file command on them
[09:40] <asac> and see what it prints
[09:40] <asac> e.g.
[09:40] <asac> file /path/to/mail/file/of/evolution :)
[09:40] <Naddiseo> It's a 60mb file named Inbox
[09:40] <Naddiseo> It just stores the emails in plain ASCII
[09:41] <asac> so mbox .. ok
[09:41] <Naddiseo> .evolution/mail/local/Inbox: ASCII mail text, with very long lines
[09:42] <asac> maybe copy the file to .mozilla-thunderbird/xxxx/Mail/Local Folders/
[09:42] <asac> if you are lucky they will just appear in local folders
[09:43] <Naddiseo> k
[09:44] <Naddiseo> Yup, that works. Thanks
[09:44] <asac> Naddiseo: good :)
[09:44] <asac> maybe worth an howto entry
[09:44] <Naddiseo> Yeah
[09:45] <asac> or better yet: extension of import wizard to recognize evolution
[09:45] <Naddiseo> Indeed, my first idea was to import, but it didn't show evolution
[09:50] <poningru> quick question guys there is a guy asking for an applet
[09:50] <poningru> that can check email
[09:52] <poningru> and then open the default email client when new email comes in
[10:01] <asac> poningru: no idea :)
[10:01] <asac> applets are not even extensions
[10:02] <poningru> right
[10:02] <poningru> found mail-notification
[10:02] <poningru> testing now
[10:02] <asac> yes .. .but thasts not an applet :)
[10:02] <poningru> actually it is
[10:02] <asac> did he mean java applet? or gnome applet? or what?
[10:02] <poningru> gnome applet
[10:02] <asac> yeah gnome


[03:27] <xtrender> hello.
[03:27] <xtrender> its possible create a private folder in code.google.com??
[04:09] <bimberi> xtrender: Congratulations! I'm awarding you the "Offtopic post of the day award" :)
[04:10] <bimberi> xtrender: http://code.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=56489&topic=10435
[08:30] <juliux> morgen


[04:37] <mup> Bug #1431279 changed: MAAS python scripts do not show the line numbers and the script name when errors are encountered <maas (Ubuntu):Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1431279>


[03:29] <hughbert> good morning
[03:29] <hughbert> anybody up?
[12:29] <czajkowski> aloha
[12:29] <czajkowski> hows folks
[12:30] <ebel> yo yo
[13:09] <tdr112> afternoon
[13:17] <ShaneM> Hey tdr112
[16:24] <IRWolfie-> eek
[16:24] <infoturtle> oh no!
[16:25] <czajkowski> yes?
[16:25] <IRWolfie-> probably dodgy bnc
[18:06] <lau1> any one knows were I could borrow an ADSL "modem" for a few hours
[18:06] <infoturtle> where are you?
[18:07] <lau1> Co.Dublin (balbriggan)
[18:07] <infoturtle> dam, I have one but I'm limerick, sorry
[18:07] <lau1> no bother it's a long shot
[19:19] <jtoomey> hello all
[19:19] <infoturtle> :) hallo!
[19:20] <jtoomey> hi! hows it going?
[19:22] <infoturtle> all cool,messing with layouts for the ubutu-ie page and various other nerd things, any news from the front line?
[19:25] <jtoomey> not really tbh. bored out of my tree in a lecture at the moment...
[19:25] <jtoomey> ubuntu.ie is it?
[19:25] <jtoomey> oh
[19:25] <jtoomey> clearly not
[19:26] <jtoomey> ubuntu-ie.org?
[19:26] <infoturtle> yea, like i said just messing,wana see the colour and layout I did, again nothings fully coded and its a play thing
[19:27] <jtoomey> the colour and top banner could do with a refresh ...
[19:28] <infoturtle> I know it's so dull
[19:28] <jtoomey> more purple/orange :D
[19:29] <infoturtle> I went with orange cause of countdown to the maverick meerkat release was orange
[19:29] <infoturtle> http://infoturtle.ie/Ubuntuie/index.php
[19:29] <jtoomey> this is awesome:http://i.imgur.com/rNOlQ.jpg
[19:30] <infoturtle> ha ha!! now thats a headline!!
[19:30] <jtoomey> the site looks cool!
[19:30] <jtoomey> bit more alive anyway :D
[19:31] <infoturtle> thank you, I've only been 2~3 hours at t and nothings proper coded but it can get done
[19:31] <jtoomey> i wonder if you could use this at all - for consistancy: http://font.ubuntu.com/
[19:32] <infoturtle> sure no prob
[19:32] <infoturtle> I'll change it later tho cause the match is about to start
[19:33] <jtoomey> ah, cool
[19:36] <czajkowski> aloha
[19:37] <jtoomey> hey - hows it going?
[19:37] <czajkowski> good thanks
[19:37] <czajkowski> how are things?
[19:38] <jtoomey> grand thanks, bored in college :D
[19:38] <czajkowski> heh
[19:38] <czajkowski> where are you in college?
[19:38] <jtoomey> DIT Kevin St.
[19:41] <jtoomey> czajkowski: do you know anyone who is good with GTK+?
[19:41] <czajkowski> hmmm
[19:41] <czajkowski> not of hand I don't sorry
[19:41] <czajkowski> chances are there is an irc channel though
[19:43] <jtoomey> sure, ill have a look, thanks!
[19:44] <czajkowski> off hand I jsut dont know
[19:44] <czajkowski> sorry
[19:45] <ShaneM> gnome dev channel or something?
[19:45] <czajkowski> aye
[19:45] <ShaneM> I usually ask gtk questions in the vala channel
[19:46] <ShaneM> But I'm doing vala coding, so I don't know if they'd be so helpful.
[19:46] <jtoomey> vala eh?
[19:47] <ShaneM> Yep
[19:47] <ShaneM> It's a C# like language
[19:47] <ShaneM> Compiles to C
[19:47] <jtoomey> ah ok cool
[19:47] <jtoomey> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeIrcChannels
[19:48] <jtoomey> that looks good
[19:48] <ShaneM> It's alot faster then C# though
[19:48] <ShaneM> And sometimes faster then C++
[19:50] <jtoomey> this vala thing looks interesting - is it used much?
[19:50] <ShaneM> Alot of new gnome applications are using it
[19:50] <ShaneM> Because it allows for faster development
[19:50] <ShaneM> Hmm trying to think of applications using it now.
[19:51] <ShaneM> Shotwell on Ubuntu is made using Vala
[19:52] <ShaneM> I think all applications made by yorba.org uses Vala.
[19:52] <jtoomey> it doesnt have anything to do with Mono does it?
[19:52] <ShaneM> Nope
[19:53] <ShaneM> Basically how it works
[19:53] <ShaneM> It you code in Vala and the vala compiler converts it to native C code.
[19:53] <jtoomey> ah cool
[19:53] <ShaneM> So it doesn't use a Virtual Machine like C#
[19:53] <ShaneM> So there's less overhead and the application is faster.
[19:54] <ShaneM> It's a pretty new language, but I think it's slowly becoming the standard language to use for gnome applications.
[19:55] <jtoomey> ah ok - cool
[19:55] <jtoomey> ill take a look at the tutorial when i get a chance..
[19:56] <jtoomey> it looks very JAVAish
[19:57] <ShaneM> Hmmm well it you've used C# it's very very similar.
[19:57] <ShaneM> It does some things very different to Java.
[19:57] <ShaneM> I don't really program in Java, so I can't comment really past the documentation.
[19:57] <jtoomey> i have only had a few run ins with C#
[19:58] <ShaneM> Ah I see.
[19:59] <jtoomey> its really interesting to see where things are going
[19:59] <ShaneM> In terms of Vala or in general ?
[19:59] <jtoomey> well - with vala being the next step for gnome development
[19:59] <ShaneM> Yeah
[20:00] <ShaneM> I think it really speeds up the process.
[20:00] <ShaneM> And you're not really compensating on speed either.
[20:00] <jtoomey> is there an ide or something? C# is nothing without the VS ide..
[20:00] <ShaneM> So I think it's a win win.
[20:00] <ShaneM> Well there's an IDE called Val(a)IDE
[20:01] <ShaneM> But it's actually quiet simple to compile from terminal.
[20:01] <ShaneM> And I'm not really a terminal guy either.
[20:01] <ShaneM> http://www.valaide.org/
[20:02] <ShaneM> Or you can use the gedit plugin http://yorba.org/valencia/
[20:02] <ShaneM> I rather not use the gedit plugin because I use gedit for reading files quickly
[20:02] <jtoomey> ah interesting
[20:03] <ShaneM> But I'd go with ValaIDE
[20:03] <ShaneM> It's nice.
[20:03] <jtoomey> so despite my best efforts i have learned something tonight :P
[20:03] <ShaneM> :)
[20:03] <ShaneM> I'm still learning Vala stuff, so I'm not too far behind you :)
[20:03] <jtoomey> what are you using it for?
[20:03] <ShaneM> Just hobby
[20:04] <jtoomey> ah ok
[20:04] <ShaneM> At the moment I'm writing my own IDE
[20:04] <ShaneM> So I can learn more about compilers, lexers, parsers etc.
[20:06] <ShaneM> I also thought it might be cool to try and make an XNA styled framework for Vala.
[20:09] <jtoomey> XNA?
[20:10] <infoturtle> XNA is Not an Acronym
[20:12] <ShaneM> Yeah
[20:12] <ShaneM> It's a game framework for C#
[20:12] <ShaneM> But it only works on Windows and Xbox.
[20:12] <infoturtle> for winodws
[20:12] <jtoomey> ahh ok
[20:12] <ShaneM> And it's proprietary.
[20:12] <infoturtle> mono is in linux but not as good
[20:13] <ShaneM> XNA doesn't work on Linux.
[20:13] <ShaneM> Because it's using Direct3D is assume.
[20:13] <infoturtle> is it? I use it and have never paid??
[20:13] <ShaneM> is it what?
[20:13] <infoturtle>  proprietary, that means you have to pay, dosen't it??
[20:14] <ShaneM> inforturtle: Naww just means they don't release the source code.
[20:14] <infoturtle> oh, well that made me look stupid....
[20:14] <ShaneM> Some you have to pay licences for like photoshop or something.
[20:15] <ShaneM> But some like say windows media player which is free is proprietary, as in you can't view the source, only use the software.
[20:15] <ShaneM> inforturtle: It's ok :)
[20:16] <infoturtle> ^^, I get it now, i was told steam will never come to linux cause its proprietary and i thought that ment you had to pay for it's services
[20:16] <ShaneM> Oh naww
[20:16] <ShaneM> IMO Steam coming to Linux is more about there being a user base and not the price.
[20:17] <ShaneM> I think the people who want Steam on Linux don't care about it being proprietary.
[20:17] <jtoomey> i dont see it happening any time soon..
[20:17] <infoturtle> yea, I'd just love to drop windows altogether, still use games and .net
[20:18] <ShaneM> I stopped using Windows when I finished college.
[20:18] <infoturtle> no,even if it will games will still not run as well
[20:18] <ShaneM> jtoomey: I think it's a good bit away, but sooner then alot of people think. I mean Value has already ported most of their games to OpenGL. So there's not too much work left for Linux support.
[20:19] <infoturtle> I tried running unreal in linux before, it's not worth it, someday maybe tho
[20:21] <ShaneM> Hmm well alot of depends on how it's made.
[20:21] <jtoomey> there is still the issue of closed source drivers for graphics cards which never seems to go away *cough* *nvidia* *cough*
[20:21] <ShaneM> Yeah
[20:21] <infoturtle> ha ha nice stab jtoomey
[20:22] <ShaneM> Like if you play something like Penumbra it runs like a dream on Linux.
[20:22] <infoturtle> oh ya?!
[20:22] <infoturtle> might check that out
[20:22] <ShaneM> So alot of it has to do with developers not spending enough time or not knowing enough about Linux development
[20:22] <ShaneM> Like say with World of Goo, they had issues with OpenAL on linux
[20:23] <ShaneM> I would assume because they don't know music about pulse audio/gstreamer etc etc on Linux.
[20:23] <infoturtle> I know but is it not worth looking into for them to make sales? it'sodd that they don't
[20:23] <ShaneM> Hmmm
[20:24] <ShaneM> It is an it isn't
[20:24] <ShaneM> Like
[20:24] <jtoomey> i used to play EVE Online on linux - they had a native client but they gave up developing it becuse they simply wernt getting enough users... pity
[20:24] <ShaneM> For Linux most Linux people are happy that they even have the game
[20:24] <ShaneM> And they're more willing then Windows users to accpect bugs
[20:24] <ShaneM> Provided it doesn't ruin the game or anything.
[20:25] <jtoomey> then again - you will see a lot of movement in the casual game space on linux for mobile devices - android/meego etc on phones tablets/netbooks/phones - thats what its all gonna be about soon enough
[20:25] <jtoomey> casual games like angry birds
[20:25] <ShaneM> Yeah
[20:25] <infoturtle> yea good point
[20:26] <jtoomey> anyone go to the meego conf in dublin last(?) week?
[20:26] <ShaneM> Naww I couldn't make it
[20:26] <ShaneM> I talked to some people about the event
[20:26] <ShaneM> Seemed pretty positive.
[20:26] <jtoomey> they gave away a shedload of netbooks AFAIK
[20:26] <infoturtle> I'm in limerick,I miss all the good events
[20:27] <ShaneM> jtoomey: They gave away freed netbooks?!
[20:27] <jtoomey> infoturtle: <insert knife joke here>
[20:27] <ShaneM> Apparently there was a big point made on upstream and how that's the main focus.  I can't tell, lol
[20:33] <ShaneM> Oh, the ubuntu-ie page is being done up? :D
[20:33] <infoturtle> messing with the look at the moment, it's not for sure, just an idea
[20:34] <ShaneM> Some of the letters aren't displaying for me in the "F�gra agus Imeachta�"
[20:34] <infoturtle> ha ha ya i know, I just going to use english because of the fadas
[20:34] <ShaneM> Ah ok :)
[20:35] <jtoomey> the black text looks Ubuntu-ish
[20:35] <jtoomey> not sure about the rest
[20:35] <ShaneM> Why don't you just use the default ubuntu font?
[20:35] <jtoomey> http://font.ubuntu.com/sample/ubuntu-0.69-quicker-brown-fox.pdf
[20:36] <ShaneM> I'd say you should try and keep the top bar looking like the ubuntu.com and replace the right ubuntu logo with ubuntu-ie.
[20:36] <jtoomey> http://i.imgur.com/xhLKM.png
[20:36] <infoturtle> thats the one I was trying to use, I don't own that server, I just rent it off some crowd, I have to add the font myself
[20:36] <ShaneM> Just my personal pref, but like you're design, do what you want :)
[20:36] <ShaneM> infoturtle: You could use google fonts, I'm sure they have the Ubuntu font up there.
[20:37] <ShaneM> That way you don't need to have access to the server.
[20:38] <infoturtle> egg-salad, just changed the font name to jibberish and nothing saved so the fonts there aren't Ubuntu ones, I'll look at this "google" your talking about
[20:39] <ShaneM> Haha
[20:39] <ShaneM> google have a font database and you can link it in your page.
[20:39] <ShaneM> So you don't need to have it on your server.
[20:40] <infoturtle> no ubuntu font there
[20:40] <infoturtle> well I cant see it
[20:40] <ShaneM> Ah :(
[20:44] <ShaneM> droid sans look nice too
[20:44] <ShaneM> But I think you should use the Ubuntu font since it's like Ubuntus.
[20:45] <infoturtle> ya, I still want to use em, I'll keep trying sure, noting better to do and the match is pretty bad
[20:45] <infoturtle> use the Ubuntu one's I mean
[20:46] <ShaneM> Well you could use Droid Sans until then, I think it looks kind of similar to Ubuntu font.
[20:47] <infoturtle> think I will, ok pizza and then changing font, for now tho I'm ducking out
[20:47] <infoturtle> cya guys ina bit
[20:48] <ShaneM> Later
[20:49] <jtoomey> laterz
[20:52] <jtoomey> i have to say though - i really like that new ubuntu font
[20:52] <jtoomey> its very attractive
[20:52] <jtoomey> and yes - im aware that its very sad that i am excited by a font....
[20:52] <jtoomey> :-\
[20:56] <ShaneM> jtoomey: I like the font too.
[20:56] <ShaneM> Alot of other people think it's a waste of time and mock them.
[20:57] <ShaneM> But I think it's important to have an image people know.
[20:57] <ShaneM> I mean even Fedora has a font specially for their website :)
[20:57] <jtoomey> really?
[21:01] <jtoomey> hmm.. that is quite cool
[21:02] <jtoomey> ok - time to go home methinks...
[21:02] <jtoomey> laterz!
[23:54] <infoturtle> just became an uncle!  woo!!
[23:54] <infoturtle> sorry, just wanted to share the news
[23:55] <ShaneM> Well done :)
[23:56] <infoturtle> thanks shane, I take your praise willingly while doing none of the work!
[23:56] <ShaneM> Haha


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[00:07] <qwebirc66352> Sigh... nevermind, 6 hours of digging into the software... broken new ethernet patch cable
[00:57] <qwebirc52953> I'm about to go postal... I need serious help here.
[00:58] <qwebirc52953> anyone there?
[01:08] <qwebirc52953> not sure I can hang out for an hour...
[01:09] <qwebirc52953> I have multiple questions, but right now I'm trying to figure out why my XBMC client (cmyth) won't connect to my myth backend. I think it's the mysql password or maybe I haven't properly enabled external access to mysql
[01:15] <qwebirc52953> afk
[01:32] <qwebirc52953> hello?
[01:41] <SmallwoodDR82> can you login to the db through command line?
[01:42] <qwebirc52953> well, I used to be able to...
[01:43] <qwebirc52953> I've been fiddling with things that i found on the web while waiting for help here, and I've probably screwed it up
[01:43] <qwebirc52953> I can't start mysql now
[01:43] <qwebirc52953> I'm trying to undo what I did
[01:44] <qwebirc52953> damn.. not working
[01:44] <Zinn> qwebirc52953: Please watch your language.
[01:46] <qwebirc52953> are you still there?
[01:49] <SmallwoodDR82> you need to get your sql db fixed before even attempting to get xbmc to connect
[01:49] <qwebirc52953> ok, I'm back in business
[01:49] <qwebirc52953> had to restart the box, but I can now log in with the generated password in the config.xml file
[01:50] <qwebirc52953> I can watch TV with the local frontend client
[01:50] <SmallwoodDR82> ok now use those credentials on xbmc
[01:50] <qwebirc52953> I've done that, and it's failed... let me go check again to be certain nothing has changed, but I was at this point an hour ago
[01:50] <qwebirc52953> brb
[01:51] <qwebirc52953> no joy. it says "no PVR clients have started yet", but I've enabled the cymth and configured it. I've also enabled Live TV in Settings.
[01:51] <qwebirc52953> the adb logs say it can't connect
[01:52] <SmallwoodDR82> can you try command line from your XBMC box?
[01:52] <SmallwoodDR82> to your sql db
[01:52] <qwebirc52953> no... it's an Amazon Fire TV with XBMC app sideloaded - but it's not rooted
[01:52] <qwebirc52953> I can get to adb logs, but that's it
[01:53] <qwebirc52953> I can try from a terminal on my Mac, though
[01:53] <qwebirc52953> how would I do that?
[01:53] <SmallwoodDR82> i just use sequel pro on my mac
[01:53] <qwebirc52953> is that free?
[01:54] <SmallwoodDR82> http://www.sequelpro.com/
[01:54] <SmallwoodDR82> yes
[01:54] <qwebirc52953> isn't there some way I could just do this from a bash prompt?
[01:54] <qwebirc52953> ok, let me DL
[01:56] <qwebirc52953> says connection failed
[01:56] <qwebirc52953> do I need the DB name?
[01:56] <qwebirc52953> or the "Name" field?
[01:56] <qwebirc52953> I filled in the host, username (mythtv) and password (string in the config.xml)
[01:57] <qwebirc52953> and changed port to 6543
[01:57] <SmallwoodDR82> when you setup mythtv did you use <IP_ADDRESS>? or the IP of the box?
[01:58] <qwebirc52953> IP of the box. Statically assigned by my router.
[01:58] <qwebirc52953> <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:58] <qwebirc52953> crap, nevermind... had the wrong IP
[01:59] <qwebirc52953> I'm logged in now from sequelpro
[01:59] <qwebirc52953> let me make sure I didn't screw up the IP on xbmc.... brb
[01:59] <SmallwoodDR82> ok verify your xbmc config with IP
[02:01] <qwebirc52953> O...M...G...    somehow xbmc took the value "1<IP_ADDRESS>"..... note the extra "1"
[02:01] <SmallwoodDR82> :)
[02:01] <qwebirc52953> so, since I have a live human here...
[02:02] <qwebirc52953> as I was trying to debug this for hours, I found notes on the web about having to enable remote access to mysql
[02:02] <qwebirc52953> is this true?
[02:02] <qwebirc52953> the first thing I saw said to do this from mythbuntu control centre
[02:02] <SmallwoodDR82> correct
[02:03] <qwebirc52953> I selected "enable" on the mysql option for "master backend role"
[02:03] <qwebirc52953> then I saw lots of other stuff about modifying the my.cnf file for mysql, which is what I was trying to do when you found me
[02:03] <qwebirc52953> was any of that necessary??
[02:03] <SmallwoodDR82> i never "modified" any files with my setup
[02:04] <SmallwoodDR82> all done through GUI/myth setup
[02:04] <qwebirc52953> ok
[02:04] <SmallwoodDR82> i'm running xbmc as well
[02:04] <qwebirc52953> finally, is there a SIMPLE way to modify the myaql password? I don't like the generated one in the config file
[02:04] <SmallwoodDR82> not on FireTV but still...
[02:05] <SmallwoodDR82> there is a file you can change...
[02:05] <qwebirc52953> right, the config.xml file
[02:05] <qwebirc52953> that's it? just change the file and restart?
[02:05] <SmallwoodDR82> i feel like this is another step...let me see if I can find it
[02:05] <qwebirc52953> I saw all sorts of other posts about changing this password via mysql commands, and it was ugly
[02:06] <qwebirc52953> ok, great - thanks
[02:06] <SmallwoodDR82> .27?
[02:06] <qwebirc52953> ?
[02:06] <qwebirc52953> oh, yes
[02:06] <SmallwoodDR82> k
[02:10] <qwebirc52953> any luck?
[02:11] <qwebirc52953> I've got it working now.... so at this point, I'm going to go play with it a bit. If you find any info, please just post it here. I'll be in and out.
[02:11] <SmallwoodDR82> I'll post if I find it...
[02:11] <qwebirc52953> thank you so much for helping, even though it was just pilot error... I have a feeling I've been chasing all sorts of things in vain
[02:11] <SmallwoodDR82> some reason I can't find the post I'm looking for
[02:11] <SmallwoodDR82> no problem...happy to sorta assist :)
[02:12] <qwebirc52953> It took me a long while to figure out that the password wasn't "mythtv"
[02:12] <qwebirc52953> that's one of the big things I figured out tonight
[02:12] <qwebirc52953> I just hate the one it chose... I'm fine with "mythtv", if I can figure out how to change it
[02:13] <qwebirc52953> so  - thanks again, and thanks in advance if you find the post with the info
[02:37] <jac1d> Weird issue, remote works at command line with irw confirming correct keypresses, but nothing seems to make it in to the mythtv frontend process.  What is required to connect the two?  14.04 with an MCE remote on a CommandIR USB receiver


[13:46] <mup> Bug #1960915 changed: MAAS is allocating IPs that are already used <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1960915>
[13:52] <mup> Bug #1960915 opened: MAAS is allocating IPs that are already used <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1960915>
[13:58] <mup> Bug #1960915 changed: MAAS is allocating IPs that are already used <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1960915>
[15:10] <mup> Bug #1961269 opened: Maas  doesn't shutdown gracefully <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1961269>
[15:25] <mup> Bug #1961269 changed: MAAS  doesn't shutdown gracefully <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1961269>
[15:31] <mup> Bug #1961269 opened: MAAS  doesn't shutdown gracefully <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1961269>
[15:34] <mup> Bug #1961269 changed: MAAS  doesn't shutdown gracefully <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1961269>
[15:37] <mup> Bug #1961269 opened: MAAS  doesn't shutdown gracefully <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1961269>


[10:21] <zequence-w> What's the easiest way to be sure one has all the dependencies needed for Ubuntu kernel maintenance/development?
[10:52] <diwic> zequence, "apt-get build-dep linux-image-generic" probably?
[10:52] <diwic> or lowlatency in your case
[10:52] <zequence-w> diwic: Thanks
[12:49]  * rtg may have to give up on thunderbird. it is simply not capable of dealing with large mail lists such as LKML
[12:57] <amitk> rtg: try notmuch
[12:58] <rtg> amitk, gotta do something different. I'll have a look. Is that your main email  client ?
[12:59] <amitk> rtg: yeah, pretty much. It is basically a mail indexer with several UI - emacs, vim, terminal-based
[13:00] <rtg> amitk, sounds good to me. I'm kind of a vim  guy anyways.
[14:08] <sforshee> bjf, ack
[14:32] <ogasawara> bjf: I need to point someone to our list of supported kernels...do you and your stable minions prefer https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/KernelStableSupportMatrix or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/ABIPackages
[15:32] <bjf> ogasawara, the support matrix. it's not as out-of-date
[15:33] <ogasawara> bjf: did you want to throw Quantal on there?  or I can
[15:34] <bjf> ogasawara, i can soon as i wake up
[15:34] <ogasawara> bjf: ack
[15:35] <arges> rtg, hello
[15:35] <rtg> arges, dude
[15:36] <arges> rtg, dude. going to resubmit that fsnotify locking patchset. when I do the reverts, do I need to include the BugLink?
[15:36] <rtg> arges, yep
[15:36] <arges> cool
[15:37] <rtg> I can add the buglinks as well. have you used ~/kteam-tools/maintscripts/maint-modify-patch ?
[15:45] <arges> rtg, no didn't know about that one... I was looking for git templates in the debian.master directory
[15:46] <rtg> arges, you'll have to setup an .kteam.rc, but afterwards you can add buglinks, Acked-by as well as s-o-b lines in a standardized format.
[15:47] <arges> rtg, ok i'll do that
[16:05] <bjf> ogasawara, the support matrix is updated
[16:05] <ogasawara> bjf: ack, thanks
[16:18]  * ogasawara back in 20
[16:50] <hggdh> bjf: when trying to git pull autotest-client-tests, I get http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1495863/
[16:51] <hggdh> bjf: no big deal, I can simply git clone it again, but every so often I have to do it, and shouldn't
[16:52] <rtg> hggdh, if you don't care about local changes, then try using 'git fetch origin;git reset --hard FETCH_HEAD'
[16:52] <rtg> also do 'git checkout -f' first
[16:56] <hggdh> rtg: thanks, will change the script accordingly
[16:57] <rtg> hggdh, if you're getting local changes inadvertently, then you might also want to clean, e.g., 'git checkout -f
[16:57] <rtg> git clean -f -d
[16:57] <rtg> git ls-files --others --directory |xargs rm -rvf'
[16:57] <rtg> that should return it to a pristine condition
[16:58] <hggdh> rtg: it did the trick, but this is (should be) a pristine copy of the origin
[16:58] <rtg> hggdh, not according to your pastebin. looks like yuo've had local changes.
[16:59] <hggdh> the only thing I do there is a git pull when Brad tells me there is a new version. Ah well, just another magic, I guess
[16:59] <bjf> hggdh, though it *should* be prestine, it's not. would be good to understand why
[17:00] <hggdh> yeah. Will monitor. Perhaps git archive changes something there
[17:00]  * rtg notes that 'pull' isn't really the right thing to do anyway if you want an exact copy of the origin.
[17:00] <hggdh> rtg: checkout is better, then?
[17:01] <rtg> hggdh, fetch and reset. pull does a merge whcih is not what you want in this case.
[17:01] <hggdh> ack. Interesting also is that a git clone (after removing the branch) did not give me an up-to-date head
[17:02] <rtg> hggdh, lemme have a look at the repo
[17:07] <rtg> hggdh, hmm. it looks OK to me. In order to guarantee a pristine copy, this is what I would do :
[17:07] <rtg> git checkout -f master
[17:07] <rtg> git clean -f -d
[17:07] <rtg> git ls-files --others --directory |xargs rm -rvf
[17:07] <rtg> git fetch origin
[17:07] <rtg> git fetch origin master
[17:07] <rtg> git reset --hard refs/remotes/origin/master
[17:09] <rtg> jsalisbury, need to bounce gomeisa for a kernel update
[17:09] <jsalisbury> rtg, ack
[17:11] <hggdh> rtg: will do it from now on, thank you
[17:11]  * hggdh will also beef up (no, actually create) git knowledge
[17:12] <apw> rtg, i suspect git clean -x -f -d does that clean/ls-files pair
[17:12] <rtg> apw, actually t does leave some cruft around in some cases, especially on older cversions of git
[17:13] <rtg> maybe the newer one works better. I'm just being pendantic
[17:13] <rtg> or is it pedantic ?
[17:14] <apw> heh
[17:15] <apw> dman rtg killed my build
[17:15] <rtg> apw, I checked on gomeisa ?
[17:15] <apw> well it went pop in the middle :)
[17:15] <rtg> apw, shit, sorry.
[17:15] <apw> its only a build, it'll grow back
[17:16] <hggdh> bjf: anyway should I grab the current head? You did not apply a tag to v0.0.5-1
[17:16] <bjf> hggdh, ah! i'll fix that
[17:17] <bjf> hggdh, it's tagged now
[17:18] <rtg> arges, ikepanhc: rebooting tangerine for kernel update
[17:18] <arges> rtg, ack
[17:24] <hggdh> bjf: thanks, updated
[17:39]  * apw wasnders off early to go to the theatre :)
[18:12]  * cking wanders off to fly a model helicopter
[18:18]  * rtg -> lunch
[18:18]  * ogra_ knew that ckisnt a talll guy ... but *that* small ?
[18:18] <ogra_> *cking
[18:36] <hallyn> drat, missed my chance to bug apw
[18:45] <bjf> sforshee, did you have raring running on this acer?
[18:47]  * bjf will just boot it up and look
[18:50] <sforshee> bjf, probably not but I don't recall for sure
[18:50] <sforshee> I don't think I had used it in a while
[18:51] <bjf> sforshee, don't know why, it's so fast :-)
[18:51] <bjf> sforshee, nope, just quantal
[19:00] <njin> hallo can be bug 1096002 a kernel bug ? thanks
[19:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1096002 in Ubuntu "Multipath does not work with EMC 5300 Storage" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1096002
[20:08] <hggdh> bjf: perfect, Lucid is all green. Thank you.
[20:09] <bjf> hggdh, np
[20:09]  * ogasawara lunch
[20:33] <jsalisbury> bjf, henrix_ If you have a chance, can you review bug 1092911 ?
[20:33] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1092911 in linux (Ubuntu) "linux-crashdump: missing binutils dependancy for "strings"" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1092911
[20:35] <jsalisbury> bjf, henrix_ I wasn't sure if the dependencies for linux-crashdump is something we would handle, or if I shoudl re-assign.
[20:37]  * rtg -> EOW
[21:28] <bjf> jsalisbury, it's not a kernel bug but, i've reassigned it to the crash project. smb did the last upload so it's something we could look at
[21:30] <jsalisbury> bjf, Thanks!
[22:51] <arges> bjf, hmm i thought crash was working. at least I've been using it recently ... is this after the version bump?
[22:52] <bjf> arges, don't really know, just looked at it long enough to answer jsalisbury
[22:52] <arges> 6.1.0-1ubuntu1
[22:52] <arges> ok
[22:52] <arges> bjf, also its a dup of bug 251288
[22:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 251288 in crash (Ubuntu) "Crash should depend on binutils" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251288
[22:53] <bjf> ah
[22:53] <arges> bjf, i'll take care of it
[22:53] <bjf> thanks


[01:01] <Nafallo> !fi
[01:02] <ubot2> In #ubuntu-se, Nafallo said: !fi is <reply>Tämä kanava on tarkoitettu vain englanninkieliselle keskustelulle. Jos haluat suomenkielistä apua (K)ubuntun ongelmiin, liity kanavalle #ubuntu-fi / #kubuntu-fi :-)
[01:02] <Tm_T> Nafallo: what you're trying to do?
[01:02] <Tm_T> ubot2: fi
[01:02] <ubot2> Tämä kanava on tarkoitettu vain englanninkieliselle keskustelulle. Jos haluat suomenkielistä apua (K)ubuntun ongelmiin, liity kanavalle #ubuntu-fi / #kubuntu-fi :-)
[01:03] <Nafallo> jpds: why do I get a message about that getting forwarded here instead of the bot just doing what I tell it to do? :-)
[01:03] <Tm_T> Nafallo: first of all, that bot has the factoid already (:
[01:03] <Nafallo> Tm_T: -se is supposed to have a seperate db...
[01:04] <Tm_T> hmmm
[01:04] <jpds> Nafallo: Did you identify?
[01:04] <Nafallo> jpds: oh. didn't know I had to :-)
[01:05] <Tm_T> Nafallo: you might not like to use that text for swedish channel
[01:05] <Tm_T> as is, that is
[01:05] <Nafallo> oh. right. that talks about Englishspeaking... :-P
[01:06] <Nafallo> how do you say Swedish speaking? :-)
[01:06] <Tm_T> ruotsinkieliselle
[01:06] <Nafallo> thanks :-)
[01:06] <Tm_T> np