[13:32] <dusty-sts> cwillu, a box appeared saying ubuntu ois running in low graphics mode, your screen and graphics card could not be detected correctly to use higher res vis effects or multiple screens u need to configure the display yourself..
[13:32] <joe__> Hmm.... I see the /home folder is a network folder.
[13:32] <Nibblyn> cwillu: 7.10
[13:32] <sarkie> Hi, I have some workspaces on the bottom right, but they are 1/2 the size of the normal, but are only "1" row.
[13:33] <niskyd> nick threttle
[13:33] <dusty-sts> cwillu, it only gives me 800x600 ?
[13:33] <Nibblyn> cwillu: driver Ati and not Radeon. but, as you said, it won't make the difference
[13:33] <cwillu> dusty-sts, okay, you'll probably need to delete the virtual line, and the left/right lines
[13:33] <cwillu> dusty-sts, ya, it's confused by the multimonitor sounds like
[13:34] <cwillu> Nibblyn, ya, the ati driver picks the radeon driver for that card
[13:34] <Nibblyn> cwillu: hum, that is ok then...
[13:34] <dusty-sts> cwillu, what lines?
[13:34] <cwillu> Nibblyn, what happens if you disable composite in xorg.conf and restart x?  (the url I gave dusty-sts above has the section you need to do that at the bottom)
[13:35] <cwillu> dusty-sts, one sec
[13:35] <sven__> i love the font Purisa xD
[13:35] <Nibblyn> cwillu: give me time to reread please ;P
[13:35] <cwillu> dusty-sts, actually, just try deleting the Busid "PCI:2:0:0" line, forgot that was in there :p
[13:36] <cwillu> Nibblyn, just ping me when you're ready
[13:36] <cwillu> joe__, what's the word?
[13:36] <joe__> Back. Getting a copy of knoppix burned to deal with the messed up computers.
[13:36] <Nibblyn> cwillu: ok, thanks
[13:36] <joe__> I am poking around online looking for documentation on how to manage users.
[13:36] <cwillu> joe__, nodma didn't work you said?
[13:37] <joe__> nodma didn't work. I put it after the -- in the boot line.
[13:37] <joe__> should it be before? is that a comment signifier?
[13:37] <BB88> Hello. How can I change the Login Screen for Ubuntu?
[13:38] <cwillu_> hmmmmmm
[13:38] <cwillu_> that was annoying
[13:38] <cwillu_> joe__, how much of that did you get?
[13:38] <cwillu_> !edubuntu
[13:38] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[13:39] <joe__> How much of the error?
[13:39] <joe__> It goes and goes for 20 minutes.
[13:39] <dusty-sts> cwillu, ok rebooted and it appears to be working but in normal 1024x768 res|
[13:39] <cwillu_> joe__, that was with nodma?  do you know that the cd worked?
[13:39] <joe__> I get .... right up until 'can't access job tty'
[13:39] <cwillu_> joe__, that was with nodma?  do you know that the cd worked?
[13:39] <joe__> cwillu -- I know the CD worked because I get the STart or Install screen but when I put in nodma to the boot instructions, no difference.
[13:40] <dusty-sts> no its doing 1280x1024 but i want 1600x1200
[13:40] <cwillu_> joe__, the cd can be bad and still get to the start screen though
[13:40] <joe__> hmm
[13:40] <joe__> Ok, I'll burn another.
[13:40] <cwillu_> joe__, run the verify cd option, and check that;  do it on a known good drive first though
[13:40] <joe__> Ok.
[13:40] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, one sec
[13:41] <cwillu_> joe__, http://www.edubuntu.org/Documentation will probably be helpful
[13:41] <dusty-sts> cwillu, when i run xrandr it says maximum res my card can do is 2560x1024
[13:41] <dusty-sts> lol
[13:41] <dusty-sts> that would be wirrd
[13:41] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, with a big enough monitor :)
[13:41] <joe__> WHat kind of verification will I get when I test it for defects?
[13:41] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, that's actually the limit for multiple monitors on the card as well
[13:41] <dusty-sts> cool
[13:41] <joe__> WIll it just continue on afterwards if its ok?
[13:41] <dusty-sts> will multiple monitors work?
[13:42] <dusty-sts> now if i just plug them in?
[13:42] <cwillu_> joe__, it'll read all the file/packages, and verify they match the checksums
[13:42] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, sorry, back up a tiny bit ;p
[13:42] <dusty-sts> ;)
[13:42] <joe__> Ok, it doesn't seem to do any of that. It just gave me progress bar for a while and started doing the same thing again.
[13:42] <joe__> *burning latest Knoppix now* =)
[13:42] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, okay, to set the default resolution, add the resolution you want to the modes lines ("1600x1200@60" should work), and then set the preferred mode to "1600x1200"
[13:43] <dusty-sts> k
[13:43] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, you're using just the single video card right?
[13:43] <willluongo> Hello, after I restored my mysql backup all of my tables are read only. Can anyone help me restore write privileges?
[13:43] <dusty-sts> yes but i have a savage 3d card in there as well but i just want to use my radeon
[13:43] <cwillu_> willluongo, #mysql might be able to help more
[13:43] <AzMoo> Hey, is there any way to see what options the kernel was compiled with?
[13:43] <dusty-sts> can i use the radeon for one screen and the savage for the other? cause the radeon only has 1 vgfa and 1 dvi and i aint got a dvi monito
[13:44] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, ya, just using the single card is preferable, in that acceleration isn't Not Trivial to set up across two cards even if they're identical
[13:44] <willluongo> cwillu_:I am asking there as well, it is running on ubuntu server though, so I was hoping someone  here had some insight.
[13:44] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, you can buy a dvi->vgi adapter for about 4-5 dollars
[13:44] <cwillu_> willluongo, np;  I don't know much about mysql though, but keep asking
[13:44] <cwillu_> (in the sense of, every few minutes, not every few seconds :p)
[13:45] <flacom> hey... how can I fix this... E: Couldn't configure pre-depend python-central for python-apt, probably a dependency cycle.
[13:45] <flacom> ?
[13:45] <dusty-sts> cwillu, ok
[13:45] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, granted that that doesn't help you today, but it's a much simpler setup (i.e., the config file you have will work, wheras doing two video cards is much trickier)
[13:45] <dusty-sts> cwillu, say i get an adapter plug it on the dvi, plug the monitor in and it will JUST automatically work?
[13:45] <LjL> flacom: while trying to install what?
[13:45] <flacom> is a dist-upgrade
[13:46] <cwillu_> joe__, let me know how it's going
[13:46] <cwillu_> Nibblyn, any luck?
[13:46] <LjL> flacom: not from a release to another, i hope
[13:46] <flacom> from feisty to gutsy
[13:46] <cwillu_> who was having the printer problem?  you scrolled off the top of my screen, sorry
[13:46] <cwillu_> flacom, apt-get dist-upgrade, or update-manager ?
[13:46] <NET||abuse> hey guys.. i notice on adobe that the linux flash install is 9.0.115 and just checking my current version i'm on 9.0.48 which i installed from the deb packages, so is it required to manually rev the installed deb? or should the deb get updated seperately?
[13:47] <flacom> apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:47] <NET||abuse> just i havn't received an update in time
[13:47] <LjL> flacom, that's not the way to upgrade
[13:47] <cwillu_> flacom, any particular reason you're trying to hose your system? :p
[13:47] <LjL> !upgrade | flacom
[13:47] <ubotu> flacom: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[13:47] <cwillu_> flacom, I've done it, but it ain't pretty
[13:47] <flacom> :(
[13:47] <cwillu_> flacom, undo the changes to /etc/apt/sources.list, and then run update-manager, and let it run the distribution upgrade that way
[13:48] <cwillu_> flacom, it's got scripts to handle the corner cases of the upgrade
[13:48] <dusty-sts> cwillu, hrm it seems to have gone to 1280 again
[13:48] <gorilla3d> im having an issue with font, I've had to chnage my fonts to font siza 64 because they are soooooooo tiny on my monitor and I've set the display to 1024x768 with no effect to the fonts. Anyone know how to fix this? every app and firefox displays text soooo small I cant read it
[13:48] <VSpike> Hmm.. that's annoying.  Screenlets are almost really good but ultimately just too flakey to use
[13:48] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, pastebin me what you have for xorg.conf right now
[13:48] <flacom> ok
[13:48] <cwillu_> !pastebin
[13:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[13:48] <dusty-sts> k
[13:48] <VSpike> Can anyone help?  I have to use Thunderbird for mail, but I really miss a notification area or panel new mail notifier, especially when using multiple desktops...  I need a biff or mail checker that can work either with IMAP or Maildir++ but it needs to be able to detect mail in any folder as I use maildrop to route mail to folders
[13:48] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, is it every program, or just firefox?
[13:49] <gorilla3d> cwillu everything
[13:49] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, where are you setting the font size?
[13:49] <dusty-sts> cwillu, http://pastebin.com/m4dc81f96
[13:49] <anna__> hu
[13:50] <gorilla3d> cwillu_: the "User Interface" settings
[13:50] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, my bad:  I'm not sure that video card will do dual 1600x1200+any other resolution and still have 3d acceleration.  That said, I forgot to tell you to change the Virtual line to match (just set it to 1600x1200)
[13:51] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, 1600 1200 rather (no x)
[13:51] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, 7.10 or 7.04?
[13:51] <dusty-sts> ik
[13:51] <gorilla3d> cwillu_: 7.10
[13:51] <tanlaan> !kde
[13:51] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[13:52] <dusty-sts> cwillu, what will happen when the other screen bots?
[13:52] <tanlaan> !kde4
[13:52] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. - KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/
[13:52] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, okay, hit details in that window, which should open "Fond Rendering Details".  Increase the dots per inch to 102 or so, and see if its better
[13:52] <dusty-sts> cwillu, the tv is going to be my other screen :)
[13:52] <dusty-sts> cwillu, i have a laptop with a radeon x700 running ubuntu, u got xorg for that? :)
[13:53] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, I haven't run any of the newer radeon's yet;  I'm not sure if the radeon driver supports it
[13:53] <dusty-sts> im running using the driver on this comp now
[13:53] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, if the radeon driver _does_ support it, it'll be basically the same file, just different resolutions to match the monitor
[13:53] <dusty-sts> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X700 (PCIE)
[13:54] <dusty-sts> sweet
[13:54] <dusty-sts> I have an odd problem wiuth it now
[13:54] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, scrolling around? :p
[13:54] <dusty-sts> cwillu_, when i boot to x its obviously 1600 x 1200, but the screen res gnome program thinks its 640x480
[13:54] <dusty-sts> lol
[13:55] <dusty-sts> other than that it works
[13:55] <dusty-sts> what ya mean about scrolling?
[13:55] <dusty-sts> my monitor is a 19" dell crt
[13:55] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, thought you might have been running into a virtual screen size thingy
[13:55] <tanlaan> its fine to install something like KDE4 alongside with GNOME right? I just choose which one I want to run at session start *login*
[13:55] <dusty-sts> ah
[13:55] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, I don't think there's much you can do about that;  the gnome config doesn't yet understand how radeon's do accelerated multi-head
[13:55] <LjL> tanlaan: yes, only thing is that your gnome menu will be "polluted" with kde apps and vice versa
[13:56] <dusty-sts> cwillu_, so when i want to get it working with two monitors what not i just purely edit the file?
[13:56] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, which is a nuisance for hot plugging monitors on a laptop for instance, because you _need_ to use xrandr to set it up instead of a nice and easy gui
[13:56] <dusty-sts> yea
[13:56] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, pretty much;  virtual needs to be the total size
[13:56] <dusty-sts> perhaps write to gnome-developers about it
[13:56] <dusty-sts> cwillu_, well thankyou VERY much for your help.
[13:56] <cwillu_> np
[13:56] <dusty-sts> i'm going to try it on my laptop.
[13:57] <tanlaan> LJL: Hmm...Maybe I'll grab a live CD of Kubuntu with KDE4, I also need to set up a seperate home partition so I can change installs
[13:57] <cwillu_> joe__, still hanging in?
[13:57] <tanlaan> LjL:Thanks for the warning though =]
[13:57] <gorilla3d> cwillu_: hm... its not there is only font rendering options and changing  the font size/style
[13:57] <cwillu_> dusty-sts, do you remember who the last person I was talking to was?  the printer guy?  he went off the top of my scrollback :(
[13:57] <mneisen> Hi, is there a way to change the number of lines and columns in the console (not Konsole!)? i.e. I want to have more text on my screen, using a text-only system (ubuntu server).
[13:57] <joe__> cwillu -- yeah. just looking at the various computers and seeing what's wrong
[13:57] <joe__> One is missing the 'GDM' group. I wonder how that happened?
[13:57] <joe__> Found a few people with the same problem.
[13:58] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, do you see the rendering thing for monochrome, bestshapes, subpixel smoothing,e tc?
[13:58] <joe__> I am still frustrated as to how to add users to the system. Adding them at client nor server level does anything
[13:58] <cwillu_> joe__, did you get the doc link I sent?
[13:58] <gorilla3d> cwillu_: anti-ali..., hinting, sub-pixel
[13:58] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, you see it?
[13:58] <joe__> yeah.
[13:59] <joe__> The only setup I see for thin-client is diskless. And these aren't diskless.
[13:59] <rvz5423> cwillu_: 14:16 < markvandenborre> I have a postscript printer with a jetdirect module
[13:59] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, the very top of that window (smoothing, hinting, subpixel order)
[13:59] <theCarpenter> why the hell is ubuntu asking me to download an un-auntheticatable openSSH-client/server?
[13:59] <Nibblyn_> cwillu: sorry, lag problems, could you tell me how to check if compiz is enabled?
[13:59] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, should say Resolution: [96] dots per inch
[13:59] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, change it to 102
[13:59] <cwillu_> rvz5423, thanks :)
[13:59] <rvz5423> cwillu_: but markvandenborre left
[13:59] <cwillu_> rvz5423, bah, he's gone
[13:59] <cwillu_> I see that
[13:59] <gorilla3d> cwillu_: http://imagehost.labs.gorilla3d.com/image/view/d00d2a914db213ecf013088084fcbb71
[13:59] <EDinNY> I just upgraded to gutsy and for some reason when I click on a link in an email in Evolution it does not launch Firefox...how can I fix this?
[13:59] <theCarpenter> either my repo lists have been hacked, or someone fucked up at openssh/ubuntu HQ
[14:00] <ChrisGibbs> !info dmraid
[14:00] <ubotu> dmraid: Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0.rc13-2ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 181 kB, installed size 612 kB
[14:00] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, ahhhhhh, xubuntu?
[14:00] <LjL> !language | theCarpenter
[14:00] <ubotu> theCarpenter: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[14:00] <gorilla3d> cwillu_: ~_~ yeah sorry
[14:00] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, np
[14:00] <rvz5423> cwillu_: btw, i used irssi's /lastlog command to search the printer line
[14:00] <theCarpenter> !language | gorilla3d
[14:00] <ubotu> gorilla3d: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[14:00] <theCarpenter> whoa!
[14:00] <Slart> theCarpenter: got any 3rd party repos configured?
[14:00] <theCarpenter> that's cool =]
[14:00] <cwillu_> rvz5423, does that work in xchat? :p
[14:00] <theCarpenter> Slart: yes, one for a little game called TASpring
[14:00] <hataricus> hi guys
[14:00] <rvz5423> cwillu_: don't know
[14:00] <gorilla3d> theCarpenter: ???
[14:01] <theCarpenter> gorilla3d: sorry, was just testing it out ;)
[14:01] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, okay, let me think
[14:01] <hataricus> does anyone know an irc channel for support with ZAPPING ?
[14:01] <rvz5423> cwillu_: just type /lastlog printer
[14:01] <Slart> theCarpenter: I haven't seen any updates about ssh lately.. you running standard gutsy?
[14:01] <theCarpenter> Slart: is there any way to check where the package is asking me to download it from, from within the update manager?
[14:01] <cwillu_> rvz5423, so close :)
[14:01] <theCarpenter> Slart: yes
[14:01] <hataricus> does anyone know an irc channel for support with the ZAPPING app ?
[14:01] <cwillu_> rvz5423, scrollback is gone for that too :p
[14:01] <theCarpenter> Slart: hence my worry =]
[14:01] <mneisen> Hi, is there a way to change the number of lines and columns in the console (not Konsole!)? i.e. I want to have more text on my screen, using a text-only system (ubuntu server).
[14:02] <cwillu_> rvz5423, it goes back to me asking dusty about it
[14:02] <cwillu_> good to know still
[14:02] <Slart> theCarpenter: I don't think so.. but you can take a look in synaptic.. look at the ssh package and see what version it is.. check if there are more than one ssh package available etc
[14:02] <dgjones> theCarpenter, try updating your sources using the reload button in synaptic, i had a problem with that at the weekend, but after a reload, everything worked fine
[14:02] <iamnewb> what command do i gi
[14:02] <Kasplatt> ay , I want to install aiglx/compiz fusion effects :)
[14:02] <axi_booy> do you speak turkey?
[14:02] <axi_booy> do you speak turkey?
[14:02] <Slart> theCarpenter: indeed.. I would get suspicious too.
[14:02] <dgjones> !tr | axi_booy
[14:02] <ubotu> axi_booy: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[14:02] <Kasplatt> I Probably only need Aiglx now
[14:02] <iamnewb> what command do i give to see if xinetd is running?
[14:03] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, open a terminal and try running gnome-appearance-properties
[14:03] <mneisen> How do I change the resolution of the console on a text-only system?
[14:03] <cwillu_> iamnewb, ps aux|grep xinetd would be my standby
[14:03] <Slart> mneisen: by using the vga=??? option in grub
[14:03] <iamnewb> cwillu_: thanks
[14:03] <cwillu_> iamnewb, pidof xinetd will also work as long as it's not a script
[14:04] <EDinNY> doboo opI spopeak Toberkoby?
[14:04] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, still there?
[14:04] <Slart> mneisen: you can start with vga=ask to try to find a vga mode that works for you..
[14:04] <Kasplatt> how do I install AIGLX for compiz ?
[14:04] <iamnewb> cwillu_: command pidof returns a number. is this the pid number?
[14:04] <theCarpenter> my installed openssh versions (server and client) are 1:4.6p1-5build1
[14:04] <Kasplatt> I dont know what the aiglx package is called or something , cant find it.
[14:04] <cwillu_> iamnewb, should be; handy for command lines
[14:05] <mneisen> Slart: Thanks for the tip. Did that already, it seems not to have any modes with more than 80 chars per line.
[14:05] <iamnewb> cwillu_nice thanks
[14:05] <theCarpenter> i'm being told by Synaptic that the latest version is 1:4.6p1-5ubuntu0.1
[14:05] <gorilla3d> cwillu_: yeah I thionk I may have it though
[14:05] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, okay
[14:05] <mneisen> Slart: That's why I ask for changing the *resolution*, like to 1280x1024.
[14:05] <cwillu_> gorilla3d, the gnome dialog is nice, modifies everything right as you change it
[14:05] <toni_> i have compiled my dsdt.aml table and putted it in /etc/initramfs-tool, but at reboot it says me that there isn't any in initrd...why?
[14:06] <Slart> mneisen: then I don't know of any way.. that was all I had .. =/
[14:06] <Nibblyn_> system-preferences-appearance-visual effects: is that for enabling compiz?
[14:06] <theCarpenter> repeat: my installed openssh versions (server and client) are 1:4.6p1-5build1   ;i'm being told by Synaptic that the latest version is 1:4.6p1-5ubuntu0.1
[14:06] <theCarpenter> can anyone verify that please?
[14:06] <cwillu_> mneisen, I think there's a radeonfb module you can use if you've got a radeon;  might be an equivilent for any vesa device
[14:06] <jrib> !info openssh-server | theCarpenter
[14:06] <ubotu> thecarpenter: openssh-server: secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.6p1-5ubuntu0.1 (gutsy), package size 241 kB, installed size 640 kB
[14:06] <Slart> theCarpenter: same here
[14:06] <cwillu_> mneisen, but I haven't done much with that
[14:07] <cwillu_> mneisen, "apropos fb" might give you some pointers
[14:07] <jrib> Nibblyn_: yes
[14:07] <theCarpenter> interesting
[14:07] <Nibblyn_> jrib: thanks
[14:07] <mneisen> cwillu_: Thanks. Will check that,
[14:07] <theCarpenter> so it looks like the latest version im told to upgrade to is the *right* version
[14:07] <MrKeuner> hi all, does anybody know what application is used to record the screencasts on screencasts.ubuntu.com?
[14:07] <NoelJB> theCarpenter, I'm booted on Hardy, but apt-cache show ${package} should give you the details
[14:08] <theCarpenter> but again, what happened to the authnetication keys? i havent fooled with my sources in ages
[14:08] <theCarpenter> something weird about this, hopefully nothing to bad though
[14:08] <theCarpenter> hopefully my sources list just got corrupted or something :X
[14:08] <dgjones> MrKeuner, this should help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/RecordingScreencasts
[14:09] <gilson> algum Brasileiro ?
[14:09] <jrib> !br | gilson
[14:09] <ubotu> gilson: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:09] <dgjones> !br | gilson
[14:09] <cwillu_> k, I'm outta here!
[14:09] <cwillu_> gl everyone ;p
[14:09] <MrKeuner> dgjones: yes. thank you
[14:09] <stefanv> Hey all, I have noticed interesting suspend/hibernate behaviour on my laptop: suspend works fine, but when automatically suspended by power manager, the notebook wakes up and complains that it couldn't suspend (even though it did) and the does a hibernate.  has anyone else seen this?
[14:10] <jschitto> i have two vt6420 sata controllers... is it possible to get ubuntu to see both?
[14:10] <theCarpenter> i dunno, it still seems odd
[14:10] <theCarpenter> its absolutely critical that ssh-related packages and programs are *rock solid*
[14:11] <EDinNY> jschitto, try "sudo dmesg" and see if it found both
[14:11] <theCarpenter> man,,,, i dunno.
[14:11] <EDinNY> jschitto: or look at /var/log/messages
[14:11] <jschitto> i will plug it back in EDinNY to see but it only shows up once in lspci
[14:11] <Xintruder> hi
[14:12] <Xintruder> I have a compiz problem, #compiz told me to reinstall my video drivers. How do I know if I have the right ones installed?
[14:12] <theCarpenter> i must just end up reinstalling gutsy... i've been having random stability issues with it anyway
[14:12] <theCarpenter> it tends to crash a lot on the screen saver...
[14:12] <Gucio> Hi! Whats better option for LAN performance of 4 Ubuntu machines NFS or SMB?
[14:12] <EDinNY> jschitto: oops...there should be a way to tell it to look for it...it might involve /etc/modules
[14:13] <erUSUL> Xintruder: which is your graphic card?
[14:13] <Xintruder> nVidia 7400\
[14:13] <Ximal> Anyone here know how I can make my windows black see through ... like high contrast ...
[14:14] <erUSUL> Xintruder: check System>Admin>Restricted Drivers
[14:14] <stefanv> Gucio: NFS should be faster, but a person has to be a bit more careful with security
[14:14] <Ximal> I'm trying just to get my windows to be high contrast but not the whole theme...
[14:14] <iamnewb> i've just installed xinetd using synaptic to run with inetd. do i have to do anything else?
[14:14] <Xintruder> erUSUL: I have two enabled drivers there
[14:15] <jschitto> any idea EDinNY? i am newbie
[14:15] <Xintruder> erUSUL: one of them is: nVidia accelarated driver
[14:16] <iamnewb> i've just installed xinetd using synaptic to run with inetd. do i have to do anything else? like configure it?
[14:16] <EDinNY> jschitto, I have not needed to do this since the 2.4 kernel and it has changed
[14:17] <Xintruder> erUSUL: now what do I do?
[14:17] <borndeer> I'd like  some good UML tools for database design, any tip?
[14:17] <joe__> in the ubuntu rescue disk, I am unable to fdisk /dev/hda
[14:17] <joe__> says 'unable to read' <--- dead HD?
[14:17] <reya276> morning
[14:18] <ikonia> joe__ what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[14:18] <joe__> 7.10
[14:18] <EDinNY> jschitto: the man page is no help...searching
[14:18] <erUSUL> Xintruder: if it is enabled your graphic drivers are installed and running ok...
[14:18] <joe__> HD starts up with lots of errors. I got to a terminal but I can't fsck or fdisk
[14:18] <EDinNY> jschitto: when you boot the machine does the bios find both cards?
[14:18] <Gucio> stefanv: thank you! I'm behind router with built in firewall. Does it make any security diff for NFS?
[14:18] <Pici> !nickspam > diafic (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:18] <reya276> Does anyone know what is the default URL for a local Bugzilla install
[14:18] <ikonia> joe__ you'll find it  is /dev/sda not hda
[14:19] <Viele-baeren> hi
[14:19] <joe__> yeah that's what I mean. sorry.
[14:19] <joe__> ubuntu uses sda for some weird reason
[14:19] <ikonia> joe__: nothing weird about it
[14:19] <Kasplatt> !aiglx | Kasplatt
[14:19] <joe__> ikonia -- yes there is. sda is reserved naming for 'sata' devices. ubuntu just made it all sda.
[14:19] <joe__> but lets not argue about that =)
[14:19] <joe__> anyway, i can't fdisk it. what do you think? dead?
[14:20] <ikonia> joe__: sda is not for sata, sd is any disk device
[14:20] <ikonia> joe__: please show me exactly what command your using
[14:20] <Savek> sd used to be scsi ;)
[14:20] <ikonia> joe__: hd devices died many kernel release ago
[14:20] <ikonia> Savek: used to be
[14:20] <joe__> sudo fdisk /dev/sda/
[14:20] <joe__> ikonia -- tell that to all other linux distributions =)
[14:20] <ikonia> joe__: they all know it and abide by it
[14:21] <joe__> mmm...maybe you've never run anything else.....
[14:21] <ikonia> joe__: I've run most distros
[14:21] <joe__> mmk. so. back to fdsik.
[14:21] <tacone> I am looking for a way to exclude a subfolder from a samba shared folder. anyone ?
[14:21] <ikonia> joe__: ls -la /dev/sda please.
[14:21] <ikonia> tacone: permissions is the only way
[14:22] <joe__> brw-rw----- 1 root disk 3, 0 Jan 11 14:05 /dev/sda
[14:22] <VSpike> Can anyone help?  I have to use Thunderbird for mail, but I really miss a notification area or panel new mail notifier, especially when using multiple desktops...  I need a biff or mail checker that can work either with IMAP or Maildir++ but it needs to be able to detect mail in any folder as I use maildrop to route mail to folders
[14:22] <tacone> ikonia: sigh, I can't.
[14:22] <ikonia> joe__: please show me the output of blkid
[14:22] <joe__> not you, tacone =)
[14:22] <ikonia> joe__: in a pastebin if its long
[14:23] <ikonia> tacone: if you can't exclude with permissions - you can't exclude
[14:23] <joe__> its not long. just two /dev/loop0 and loop1 entries.
[14:23] <ikonia> joe__: your disk appears dead then, or the controller is not visable
[14:23] <joe__> lookin' like it.
[14:23] <jrib> VSpike: have you checked out mail-notification?
[14:23] <joe__> cool. thanks.
[14:23] <Xintruder> how do I install my nVidia drivers without X running?
[14:23] <tacone> ikonia: thx :-)
[14:23] <ikonia> Xintruder: what video card do you have
[14:24] <jschitto> EDinNY: yes, it is one card and one onboard
[14:24] <joe__> ikonia -- is it possible to run edubuntu without any hard disk?
[14:24] <ikonia> joe__: from a livecd, sure why not
[14:24] <Xintruder> nVidia accelerated
[14:24] <ikonia> Xintruder: what model
[14:24] <jschitto> EDinNY: the card has SATA and IDE, and the ide controller shows up in lspci when the card is plugged in
[14:24] <Xintruder> 7400
[14:24] <joe__> hmm....what about just loading / as a network space?
[14:24] <ikonia> joe__: thats ram
[14:24] <ikonia> joe__: running in ram
[14:25] <rvz5423> !info sun-java5-plugin
[14:25] <ubotu> sun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-13-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 80 kB
[14:25] <joe__> hmm...
[14:25] <ikonia> Xintruder the nvidia-glx package should be fine for that
[14:25] <ilan> o.O
[14:26] <VSpike> jrib: i havent .. thanks for the pointer
[14:26] <ilan>  :)
[14:26] <Xintruder> ikonia: how do I know if its installed?
[14:26] <ilan> Nobody here speaks in portuguese?
[14:26] <ikonia> Xintruder: are you using the restricted drivers manager ?
[14:26] <ikonia> Xintruder: you should be able to see it in that
[14:26] <ilan> speaks portuguese*
[14:26] <Pici> !pt | ilan
[14:26] <ubotu> ilan: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:26] <Xintruder> yeah i see it there ikonia
[14:26] <ikonia> Xintruder: mega, your running it then
[14:27] <joe__> Can I edit /etc/sudoers with vim or do I have to use that special program?
[14:27] <Xintruder> ok thanks
[14:27] <ilan> ola
[14:27] <ikonia> joe__: sudoedit is better
[14:27] <joe__> but is it possible / will it cause problems if I use vim?
[14:27] <tacone> Any way to change the home directory of an existing user ? I need to use /home for other purpouses.
[14:27] <ilan> o.o
[14:27] <joe__> tacone -- /etc/passwd
[14:28] <Xintruder> Guys I got to go, if you have time please pass by my problem thread and post a solution if you can. Ive been having this problem for days, I have to go now thanks in advance: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4115320#post4115320
[14:28] <ilan> NIMGUEM FALA PORTUGUES?
[14:28] <ikonia> joe__: it can cause problems, but it may not
[14:28] <ikonia> tacone: usermod
[14:28] <ilan> NADIE HABLAS ESPAÑOL?
[14:28] <ikonia> Xintruder: problem ?
[14:28] <jrib> ilan: /join #ubuntu-pt
[14:28] <dgjones> !es > ilan
[14:28] <Xintruder> ikonia: yeah, its all there with the info on everything
[14:29] <ikonia> where ?
[14:29] <ilan> thanks jrib
[14:29] <Xintruder> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4115320#post4115320 ikonia
[14:29] <bgergo94> sziasztok
[14:29] <Savek> is it possible to run 7.10 x64 without a swap partition? got 4gb physical ram and don't want memory contents to be written to disk (encryption keys and such) - i know about encrypted swap, but i'd rather completely ommit it
[14:29] <ilan> hola dgjones
[14:29] <ikonia> Savek: you can do that, but your being paranoid
[14:29] <joe__> howto get ubuntu version from command line?
[14:29] <ikonia> Savek: no swap partition will have effects on things like hibernation, memory waste etc
[14:29] <jwd_> uname -a
[14:29] <jrib> !version | joe__
[14:29] <ubotu> joe__: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[14:29] <el_Toni> joe__, uname -a
[14:30] <bgergo94> ismertek magyar MUD szervert?
[14:30] <tacone> joe_: after changing /etc/passwd what shuold i do to refresh the situation ? reboot ?
[14:30] <genii> joe__: yes, uname -a   and also lsb_release -a
[14:31] <joe__> excellent
[14:31] <joe__> tacone -- I believe that isn't neccesary
[14:31] <Savek> s3 should be enough - don't need to-disk
[14:31] <joe__> tacone -- I think you just change the directory, logout and login
[14:31] <joe__> (if you are changing your own home)
[14:31] <joe__> 1 thing. make sure you have permissions on your new home =)
[14:31] <tacone> ok, thx
[14:32] <jimcooncat> what's the quickest way to install multi-domain web and ftp servers? Anything simpler than apache2?
[14:32] <joe__> What's wrong with apache2? =)
[14:32] <ikonia> jimcooncat: apache2 is very simple
[14:32] <VSpike> jrib: it doesn't seem to be able to check multiple folders :./
[14:33] <joe__> jimcooncat -- if you want it all working this hour or today, your probably in no luck. But apache is quite simple. The guys at #apache are really helpful, too.
[14:33] <Nibblyn> cwillu_: thanks, deactivated all visual effects... that helped a lot
[14:33] <joe__> FYI - apache has nothing to do with 'ftp servers'
[14:33] <joe__> jimcooncat ^^
[14:33] <martianlobster> I just did an "apt-get install openvpn"  and it started Openvpn, after the installation. Does "apt-get install"  do an "rc-update add" also,  so that openvpn will be restarted after each reboot?
[14:33] <jrib> VSpike: yeah, you're right.  I assumed you could add more than one mailbox and specify the path but does not seem so
[14:34] <jimcooncat> ok, thanks all. I'll give it a shot. So what for ftp?
[14:34] <adub> my toolbar is pushed off to the right side of my screen from the top of my screen how can i get it back to the top of my screen
[14:34] <Ltlbgr67> Hi, I have a question I cant seem to find an answer for.  Is there a way to customize icons?
[14:34] <Pici> !themes > Ltlbgr67 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:34] <ikonia> Ltlbgr67: make an icon theme
[14:34] <Pici> !changethemes > Ltlbgr67 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:34] <joe__> jimcooncat -- i forget but its very simple. google for ubuntu ftp.
[14:34] <VSpike> jrib: in some ways, the logical thing might be to have maildrop call a notification tool
[14:34] <joe__> !ftp
[14:34] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[14:34] <ikonia> joe__: vsftp ?
[14:35] <VSpike> jrib: but I'm not sure how it would communicate with a running user session
[14:35] <joe__> yes ikonia
[14:35] <joe__> jimcooncat --> see ikonia's last msg. that's a good one.
[14:35] <jimcooncat> joe__: yes there's a few. I'll check out vsftp, thanks ikonia
[14:36] <VSpike> jrib: it's annoying because t-bird scans all folders for new mail, and shows a brief popup, but has no tray icon.  Yet t-bird for windows does.
[14:37] <Balachmar> Hi yesterday I installed Kubuntu dekstop from synaptic because I want to try KDE
[14:37] <dazza> hi, i'm having trouble with my wireless card. module is loaded but the card doesn't appear in iwconfig. see http://rafb.net/p/CjIezf62.html for output of lspci/lsmod/iwconfig
[14:38] <Balachmar> But now it has changed the spashscreen as well, how can I switch that back, I must admit that I like the ubuntu splash better
[14:38] <jrib> Balachmar: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[14:38] <beggi> hi all
[14:38] <beggi> i need help with buntu
[14:39] <Pici> Just ask.
[14:39] <jwd> ubuntu or just buntu
[14:39] <jwd> hehehe
[14:39] <beggi> ubuntu of course
[14:39] <Balachmar> @jrib: I didn't mean the gdm or kdm, I mean the splash screen you get when booting
[14:40] <beggi> now i'm on ubuntu, and i want to update this
[14:40] <Savek> @dazza: have you looked at this site: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140085&page=2 ?
[14:40] <jschitto> hi, i have a vt6420 sata controller on my motherboard and one on my pci card. how can i make ubuntu also recognize the one on the pci card? the card is seated correctly...
[14:40] <beggi> i'm on 5.03
[14:40] <Savek> (sry, don't have that card, so can't tell more)
[14:40] <Ximal> i am soo in love with compiz ;)
[14:40] <dazza> Savek: not yet i don't think! i'll have a look at it
[14:41] <Ximal> now... can someone tell me what vmware fusion is ?
[14:41] <Ximal> oops... this is the wrong window.. haha
[14:41] <Savek> Ximal: vmware for OS-X
[14:41] <urbanmonkey> Ximal: workstation for macos
[14:41] <Ximal> oh... heh.. thanks guys...
[14:41] <Sweatgh> hi to all1
[14:41] <Sweatgh> :D
[14:41] <dgjones> beggi, that might be too old to upgrade now, it'd probably be safer and better to backup your /home partition and install a fresh version of 7.10
[14:41] <corentin> Hi everybody
[14:42] <corentin> Is someone can help me to configure my sound on linux?
[14:42] <corentin> (Kubuntu)...
[14:42] <corentin> And Is someone can tell me how update my KDE?
[14:42] <genii> corentin: Perhaps go instead to channel #kubuntu instead of this one for assistance :)
[14:42] <erUSUL> jschitto: why do you know it is not recogniced? does the disk attached there not show up?
[14:43] <jschitto> erUSUL: yes the disks do not show up and there is only one entry in lspci
[14:43] <beggi> thanks dgjones, so do I have to format the hard drive?
[14:43] <jschitto> the IDE controller on the card shows up in lspci however erUSUL
[14:44] <tacone> thank you joe__, i'm done ! :-)
[14:44] <dgjones> beggi, if its the only operating system on the machine, once you've done the backup, you should just be able to let the livecd install and that'll format and clear what you had originally, do you have a seperate /home partition?
[14:44] <tacone> bye !
[14:45] <erUSUL> jschitto: humm then you may hve to pass some kind of module parametaer or something... i will report it as a kernel bug in launchpad maybe kernel ubuntu gurus can sched some light on this
[14:45] <beggi> no this ubuntu is with win xp, home is not separate partition
[14:45] <javaccen> erUSUL: here is some more information
[14:46] <joe__> cool, tacone =)
[14:46] <Curs0r> powernowd is throwing errors at boot. Will a simple reinstall fix that?
[14:46] <joe__> tacone -- usermod is also helpful but honestly I just edit /etc/passwd when it comes to things like that.
[14:46] <ikonia> Curs0r: I don't see why
[14:46] <javaccen> erUSUL: in /var/log/messages there are 5 lines showing up with sata_via
[14:46] <beggi> i read that it's possibel to upgradefrom 5.0 to 6.0 and then 6.0 to 7.0
[14:46] <javaccen> erUSUL: scsi0 through scsi4
[14:46] <erUSUL> javaccen: can you paste them?
[14:46] <erUSUL> !paste
[14:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[14:46] <Curs0r> Does anyone have a useful answer?
[14:47] <ikonia> Curs0r: depends what the errors are
[14:47] <mavi-> Curs0r: try? =D
[14:47] <erUSUL> javaccen: but i gues they are the 4 ports of the onboard controler chip
[14:47] <Curs0r> Better, still not all the way to useful though.
[14:47] <dgjones> beggi, do a backup of your /home, download a 7.10 install cd and boot from that, you'll be able to specify that it uses the partition you've got your old version of ubuntu on and tell to format that, just make sure you'd don't format your windows partition
[14:47] <javaccen> erUSUL: take a look please http://pastebin.com/m50f85cc3
[14:47] <javaccen> it looks kinda like 2 controllers
[14:47] <ikonia> Curs0r if you are unable to provide useful information, don't expect useful help
[14:48] <Curs0r> Don't answer the question if you don't know
[14:48] <javaccen> there are only 2 onboard sata ports
[14:48] <ikonia> Curs0r: how can I know you've not given me any information, apart from a bizzare magic suggestion of a reinstall fix all
[14:48] <ikonia> Curs0r: provide information
[14:48] <Curs0r> You could have led off with "I need more info"
[14:49] <ikonia> Curs0r: I answered your question. "Would a reinstall fix that" "I don't see why"
[14:49] <ikonia> Curs0r: provide information
[14:49] <Curs0r> I'll fix it myself. Thanks for nothing asswad
[14:49] <ikonia> Curs0r: or ask more accurate question
[14:49] <beggi> ok, thanks dgjones, btw this ubuntu can't access cdrom device to enable this?
[14:50] <erUSUL> javaccen: can you paste full dmesg ?
[14:50] <jschitto> sure erUSUL
[14:50] <dgjones> beggi, are you able to download the .iso using windows and then burn it to a cd? and are you able to boot from cd?
[14:50] <Sweatgh> people what is the name of package that can to add many cap pac with aircrack?
[14:51] <javaccen> erUSUL: http://pastebin.com/m2d217987
[14:52] <javaccen> there are 4 disks connected
[14:52] <beggi> yes i''m able to, i can boot from cdrom, this ubuntu was installed by me, but 2 years ago :)
[14:52] <Curs0r> ikonia, do you provide help at all or just rhetorical insights?
[14:52] <javaccen> but only the two are showing up
[14:53] <javaccen> Curs0r: please relax i am sorry for any offense you have taken
[14:54] <dgjones> beggi, if you can do that, that should let you burn the cd in from windows and then get on the way to installing the latest version
[14:54] <Curs0r> I'm just trying to discern what makes a person sit in a help channel and act like a prick
[14:54] <ikonia> !language | Curs0r
[14:54] <ubotu> Curs0r: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[14:55] <Curs0r> Oh I see, we want to be a hall monitor when we grow up.
[14:55] <ikonia> !attitude | Curs0r
[14:55] <ubotu> Curs0r: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[14:55] <ikonia> Curs0r: just provide the information, or ask a genuine question, not one you didn't want an answer for
[14:55] <Curs0r> Volunteers should contribute, not drive users away
[14:56] <ikonia> Curs0r: I have not been rude to you in any way, I answered your question, and aske for more info/better question
[14:56] <Curs0r> ikonia, lame defense
[14:56] <ikonia> Curs0r: if you want help, provide information, or solid question, don't complain
[14:57] <Seveas> Curs0r, would you please behave in here?
[14:57] <Curs0r> ikonia, why don't you just go away and I'll talk to the other users here for help if I need it ok?
[14:57] <Seveas> Curs0r, final warning. Behave or begone.
[14:57] <ikonia> Curs0r: just provide the information to fix it
[14:57] <Curs0r> Like I said, I'll fix it myself.
[14:57] <ikonia> Curs0r: ok, fix it yourself and stop complaining.
[14:58] <Seveas> ikonia, please ignore Curs0r as well, you're only making it worse
[14:58] <ikonia> ok
[14:58] <tim167> hello, i am trying to make an image with apt-on cd, but it only sees 4 installed packages, although i'm sure i installed dozens, what can i do ? thanks
[14:58] <wsguede> can you "update" from ubuntu 7.10 to xubuntu 7.10?
[14:58] <Seveas> wsguede, install the xubuntu-desktop package
[14:58] <ikonia> wsguede: not really an update, just a different desktop, and use
[14:58] <ikonia> yes
[14:59] <wsguede> I don't want o have to go through another cd
[14:59] <wsguede> I have normal ubuntu but it goes slow
[14:59] <ikonia> wsguede: look at the package Seveas suggested.
[14:59] <ikonia> wsguede: slow doing things, or just visually slow
[15:00] <tim167> has anyone here used apt-on cd ?
[15:00] <wsguede> doing
[15:00] <ikonia> wsguede: can you give me a quick example
[15:01] <Rhoruns> ahhh! i minimized my shell window in TightVNC, how do i bring it back up again??
[15:01] <tim167> can ubuntu be installed via an image on harddisk instead of a CD ?
[15:01] <gabriele> hi
[15:02] <ikonia> tim167: really needs to be booted
[15:02] <ikonia> !install | tim167
[15:02] <ubotu> tim167: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[15:02] <wsguede> ikonia: I am working with 256 mb mem
[15:02] <B-rabbit> hi all
[15:02] <ikonia> wsguede: that is really the minimum for gnome, I see why you may want to try xubuntu
[15:03] <Patogen> "configure: error: id3tag header not found!", how do I fix this? Trying to compile pmplib
[15:03] <VSpike> hey B-rabbit did you ever get that thing compiled and installed?
[15:03] <wsguede> ikonia: :)
[15:03] <Blinkiz> I would like to burn a cd disc from command line. I have used growisofs for dvd. Does it work for cd disc also or do I need another program for that?
[15:04] <BB88> Anybody know how I can mount a partition and change its permissions?
[15:04] <B-rabbit> VSpike, yer i did actually :) ... took me quite a will to figure it out though
[15:04] <erUSUL> javaccen: i can see 3 disks sda sdb and hdb....
[15:04] <wsguede> BB88: what are you trying to do?
[15:04] <ikonia> BB88 once it's mounted it behaves like a normal file system, just change the permissions as you would anything else
[15:05] <sinthetek> wtf...
[15:05] <BB88> wsguede, I have just done a fresh install of Ubuntu. I have a 500gb HD, and partitioned it into 100gb as the root, and 400gb as /Files. The folder "Files" is located in /Files, but I cannot access, and I want to mount it in media also ;)
[15:06] <ikonia> BB88: you'll need to change /etc/fstab to make it mount in /media
[15:06] <genii> Blinkiz: You may find some help here http://sharkysoft.com/tutorials/linuxtips/cdcommands/
[15:06] <ikonia> BB88: and also make the dir in /media
[15:06] <BB88> ikonia, I need to edit the permissions first, or can I do this through fstab?
[15:06] <mavi-> directories in /media gets auto created by the mounter
[15:06] <kurbacik> problems with vlc
[15:06] <mavi-> so dont create one if you want to use that one
[15:06] <ikonia> mavi-: no, only if it's done through dbus/hal
[15:06] <kurbacik> i need help with vlc
[15:07] <mavi-> yes, if its mounted via the auto mounter
[15:07] <erUSUL> javaccen: also the sata ports of the pci card are reported as down (ata4 and ata5) so maybe you have to check the various cables (sata power etc)
[15:07] <mavi-> oh
[15:07] <kurbacik> i can't here sound
[15:07] <mavi-> missed "auto" in auto mounter in first sentence
[15:07] <ikonia> BB88: mount it on /files, change the permissions, then mount it wher you want, or mount it where you want and then change the permissions
[15:07] <kurbacik> i can't hear sound
[15:07] <BB88> ikonia, I would if I knew how :)
[15:07] <tiagoboldt> anyone has tried the new creative ZEN with ubuntu? I'm about to buy one, but I would like to be sure it works. Since it's really recent, there aren't many infos online..
[15:07] <javaccen> erUSUL: sorry there is a 5th IDE disk that I booted off of
[15:07] <Ximal> wuts the command for downloading the C header files ? i can't get vmware to install without them
[15:07] <BB88> ikonia, I am in fstab via gedit now, and I am not sure what to do next.
[15:08] <erUSUL> javaccen: i guess that's hdb?
[15:08] <javaccen> erUSUL: i will reseat all of the connectors
[15:08] <erUSUL> Ximal: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[15:08] <aoupi> tiagoboldt: if you have a laptop you can bring it to the store
[15:08] <ikonia> BB88: look at how /files is setup, change that to /media/what_you_want
[15:08] <Ximal> what is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[15:08] <Ximal> kernel? is the question
[15:08] <Blinkiz> genii: Thanks for the link. The author for that page recommends "cdrecord" to burn iso files. Is "cdrecord" the ´one´ cd burning tool?
[15:08] <Ximal> I need to know wht the dir would be ? and ok
[15:08] <javaccen> erUSUL: yes, the 300GB samsung hdb is the boot disk
[15:08] <javaccen> erUSUL: there are also 4 identical 500GB SATA
[15:08] <genii> Blinkiz: It is the backend for most gui burning apps
[15:09] <Blinkiz> genii: I see. Thanks for that information
[15:09] <Ximal> erUSUL : what's the uname -r mean ?
[15:09] <Blinkiz> bye
[15:10] <Beber80> uname -r gives you your kernel version
[15:11] <Ximal> it still shows it as not being the C header files.. wth ?
[15:11] <BB88> ikonia, I private messaged you. Any ideas?
[15:11] <Twigathy> Hey all - I'm trying to run Tomboy notes but keep getting the error: "WARNING: Could not scan file: /usr/lib/tomboy/Tomboy.exe"
[15:11] <VSpike> BB88: if you want more help, pastebin the whole file.  By the way, did you do "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" ?
[15:11] <ikonia> BB88: I've not got your message
[15:11] <Twigathy> Anyone else use Tomboy and have the same problem?
[15:11] <ikonia> BB88: is your nick registered ?
[15:12] <ikonia> BB88: VSpike had a good call, paste your fstab ina pastebin
[15:12] <BB88> Ok.
[15:13] <Ximal> could anyone tell me the directory of the C header files that match the running kernel I a using ? what would be the generic way of finding that folder ?
[15:13] <BB88> Yes, my nick is registered.
[15:13] <abhi_> hi
[15:13] <BB88> ikonia, VSpike, http://pastebin.com/m35fb5a16
[15:14] <ikonia> BB88: that looks quite good, what's the error
[15:14] <VSpike> BB88: do you want you disk to be mounted in *both* places?  If so, you might be better symlinking
[15:14] <BB88> ikonia, There is no error, I just want to change the permissions, and mount it.
[15:14] <Watarase_Jun> hi, i'm having problems with graphics on my 7.10 system... my graphics card is a radeon 1650 pcie and my monitor is an old em-175... i can't seem to get the drivers in and working
[15:14] <BB88> VSpike, I just want to move the partition to /media/ and mount it, and change the permissions.
[15:15] <ikonia> BB88: that seems fine, mount it on /media and change the permissions
[15:15] <BB88> ikonia, I do not know how.
[15:15] <Mez> Twigathy, I had issues with tomboy not loading unless I ran the command from a shell with nohup, but the lastest from -updates fixed it
[15:15] <apdb> Is there a command i Linux to display what groups a specific user is member of?
[15:15] <ikonia> BB88 "sudo mount /media/Files"
[15:15] <ikonia> apdb: id $user
[15:15] <ikonia> apdb: or the gui user manager
[15:15] <Twigathy> Mez: -updates? I assume you mean a repo I don't have enabled? :)
[15:16] <BB88> ikonia, mount: mount point /media/Files does not exist
[15:16] <javaccen> erUSUL: ok i swapped all the cables in case a cable is bad and rebooted
[15:16] <ikonia> BB88: I told you to create the directory you wanted to mount it on
[15:16] <javaccen> erUSUL: now the dmesg is http://pastebin.com/m130fb0a7
[15:16] <Mez> Twigathy, yes, gutsy-updates - if you'd care to pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list I can see whether you have that repository available and point you in the correct direction if not
[15:16] <BB88> ikonia, So create /Files/ inside /media ?
[15:16] <CrashTest_> I have just run updates on my 7.10 install, and it tried to upgrade my kdm, which failed. with a dpkg: error processing kdm (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1.  I have tried apt-get install -f, apt-get upgrade, apt-get clean but I still get the same error.  No other pkg system is running.
[15:16] <guru> firman
[15:16] <ikonia> BB88: yes
[15:17] <BB88> You cannot create folders in media..
[15:17] <javaccen> erUSUL: so unless the card is bad or something it is a bug
[15:17] <lewix> what's the difference between kill and killall
[15:17] <ikonia> BB88: use sudo
[15:17] <Twigathy> Mez: on
[15:17] <Mez> CrashTest_, try a sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm,
[15:17] <Twigathy> er...
[15:18] <Mez> (without the comma at the end
[15:18] <Twigathy> Mez: http://pastebin.com/m6ac2e7ea
[15:18] <BB88> ikonia, to create a folder?
[15:18] <ikonia> BB88: "sudo mkdir /media/files"
[15:18] <erUSUL> javaccen: the two ports are still reported as down... dunno why you may want to report it to lunchpad or een the linux-kernel mailing list
[15:18] <ikonia> BB88: "sudo mkdir /media/Files"
[15:18] <genii> lewix: kill works on a single process, killall will kill everything running with a particular name
[15:18] <Twigathy> It's a bit of a mess, sorry... x_x
[15:18] <ikonia> BB88: note the captical F
[15:18] <CrashTest_> Mez: Thanks, same error
[15:18] <javaccen> erUSUL: ok thank you
[15:18] <lewix> genii, thanks
[15:18] <Mez> CrashTest_, sorry that didnt hellp
[15:19] <genii> lewix: np
[15:19] <CrashTest_> Mez: NP, thanks for the try, anyone know of a better way to force a package to install or update?
[15:19] <BB88> ikonia, Ok, but how can I change the permissions so I can actually do stuff with the partition?
[15:19] <ikonia> BB88: what is your user name
[15:20] <BB88> ben
[15:20] <Mez> Twigathy, can you pastebin the output of apt-get policy tomboy please?
[15:20] <BB88> is it chown -R ?
[15:20] <ikonia> BB88: "sudo chown -R ben:users /media/Files"
[15:20] <Mez> CrashTest_, kdm failing at the configure is a major thing - I'd suspect a corrupt package.
[15:20] <ikonia> BB88: then "sudo chmod -R 755 /media/Files"
[15:20] <CrashTest_> Mez: Ok, I will wait for the next update, and try again then
[15:21] <Twigathy> Mez: http://pastebin.com/m3c468df8
[15:21] <Mez> CrashTest_, you're trying to update to 7.10 though?
[15:21] <Twigathy> oh, hm
[15:21]  * Twigathy wonders why he has gutsy-proposed enabled
[15:21] <CrashTest_> Mez: No, I am already on 7.10, I was just running an update because Update Manager told me to
[15:21] <obreiro> hello to everybody. someone know how to forget a configured wlan with network manager in gutsy?
[15:21] <obreiro> thanks
[15:21] <CrashTest_> :)
[15:21] <Seveas> obreiro, black magic
[15:21] <Seveas> obreiro, hang on a bit
[15:22] <Mez> CrashTest_, you might get better help for KDE in #Kubuntu ...
[15:22] <CrashTest_> Thanks
[15:22] <manojloviclMVP> Can someone tell me if it possible to somehow make logs rotate every 10 minutes?
[15:22] <manojloviclMVP> I would like to have a new log every 10 minutes.
[15:22] <Seveas> obreiro, gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /system/networking/wireless/networks/foo  (replace foo with the ssid)
[15:22] <manojloviclMVP> I use syslog-ng
[15:23] <Mez> Twigathy, might be that, the version I'm running is from security
[15:23] <Mez> Twigathy, try sudo apt-get install tomboy=0.8.0-1ubuntu0.1
[15:23]  * Twigathy updates a bit...
[15:23] <Twigathy> two secs :)
[15:23]  * genii gives Seveas a black magic award
[15:23] <BB88> ikonia, Still no luck.
[15:23] <Mez> manojloviclMVP, logs for what ?
[15:24] <ikonia> BB88: what is the problem
[15:24] <manojloviclMVP> mez.
[15:24] <BB88> ikonia, I still cannot edit it, and now I have "Files" located in both "/" and "/media"
[15:24] <afief> I am having trouble installing flash on my Ubuntu, could someone help me?
[15:24] <manojloviclMVP> I would like to make log from my router but I would like that syslog-ng and logrotate create a new log every 10 minutes.
[15:24] <Pici> !flashissues | afief
[15:24] <ubotu> afief: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[15:24] <manojloviclMVP> Is it possible?
[15:24] <Seveas> afief, maybe someone can if you tell us the problems :)
[15:24] <ikonia> BB88: you've got a cross mount, show me the output of "mount" in a pastebin please.
[15:24] <Mez> !flashissues | afief
[15:24] <Mez> !flashissues | afief
[15:24] <Mez> !flash | afief
[15:24] <Seveas> manojloviclMVP, make the logratate cronjob run every 10 minutes instead of daily
[15:25] <ubotu> afief: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[15:25] <VSpike> BB88: you have the contents of Files in both places, or just an empty directory in one?
[15:25] <Pici> Mez: I did it like 3 lines before you did. !botabuse ;)
[15:25] <BB88> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/m648f1f2
[15:25] <manojloviclMVP> Seveas... The problem is that syslog-ng config does not know how to make a new one every 10 minutes.
[15:25] <ikonia> VSpike: he's posting mount, hang one
[15:25] <Mez> !opabuse | Pici
[15:25] <manojloviclMVP> If I run the procedure manualy it does not create a new log.
[15:25] <ubotu> Pici: leave the ops alone ktnxbye
[15:25] <Twigathy> Mez: different crash now!
[15:25] <BB88> VSpike, It is an empty directory as it is a new hard drive split into two partitions.
[15:25] <ubuntu__> hi
[15:25] <ikonia> BB88: you have a cross mount
[15:25] <manojloviclMVP> How shoudl I configure it to make it every 10 minutes?
[15:25] <Mez> Twigathy, w00... what crash now
[15:25] <ikonia> BB88: sudo umount /files
[15:26] <ikonia> BB88: sudo umount /Files
[15:26] <Tracy_P> In the standard UI, is there a way to select a file and edit it in the default editor with SUDO?
[15:26] <Twigathy> http://pastebin.com/mb3faf0f <-- Mez
[15:26] <Seveas> manojloviclMVP, I don't know about syslog-ng but normal syslog needs a SIGHUP after rotating the log, which is what the default logratate config does
[15:26] <ikonia> Seveas: ng does too
[15:26] <manojloviclMVP> Well...
[15:26] <muszek___> I just fired up alpha 3... is pulse audio "in it"?  I'd like to set different volume for rhythmbox and firefox.... possible?
[15:26] <Seveas> Tracy_P, sadly not. YOu can install nautilus-actions and create such an action
[15:27] <BB88> ikonia, Ok, but I cannot delete the folder. Need to use CHMOD and CHOWN again?
[15:27] <Seveas> (which is what I did :))
[15:27] <Tracy_P> Thank you
[15:27] <ikonia> BB88: forget the folder for now - one thing at t time
[15:27] <Pici> !hardy | muszek___
[15:27] <ubotu> muszek___: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:27] <ikonia> BB88: can you mount to /media/Files
[15:27] <ikonia> BB88: sorry, can you "write"
[15:27] <Ax-Ax> is debian better than ubuntu?
[15:27] <BB88> ikonia, No.
[15:27] <Pici> !debian | Ax-Ax
[15:27] <ikonia> BB88: what does it say ?
[15:27] <ubotu> Ax-Ax: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[15:27] <muszek___> Pici, sorry, I though I _was_ on #ubuntu+1 :)
[15:28] <mneptok> Ax-Ax: is Coke better than Pepsi?
[15:28] <Seveas> mneptok, definitely!
[15:28] <BB88> ikonia, It seems I can now after the umount.
[15:28] <mneptok> Seveas: i mean for drinking.
[15:28] <BB88> ikonia, Ok, that is sorted thank you. Now just to remove the older /Files folder?
[15:28] <Seveas> mneptok, that too. But definitely for rust removal
[15:28] <Mez> Twigathy, you seem to have removed an addin or something - maybe rm -rf ~/.tomboy
[15:29]  * mneptok eats a 1949 Mercury
[15:29] <ikonia> BB88: sudo rm -rf /Files
[15:29] <mrx1222> ls
[15:29] <mrx1222> ls
[15:29]  * Twigathy backs up his notes first ;)
[15:29] <BB88> ikonia, Ok thank you. How can I make it show up on the desktop, as it normally would as an NTFS FileSystem ?
[15:30] <ikonia> BB88: it "should" show up the next time you reboot
[15:30] <ikonia> BB88: you can do it manually, but it's easier and quicker to reboot
[15:30] <ed_> very quick newbie question: how do i kill an unresponsive ap?
[15:30] <Twigathy> Mez: heh, I'm back to the original error *facedesk*
[15:30] <ikonia> ed_: sudo kill -11 $pid
[15:30] <ikonia> ed_: or pkill $process
[15:30] <dury> hi there channel :)
[15:30] <ed_> terminal won't come up for some reason
[15:30] <BB88> ikonia, I'd rather do it manually as I am installing XP on VirtualBox at the moment, if you would be so inclined :)
[15:30] <Mez> Twigathy, which was?
[15:30] <obreiro> Seveas very thanks
[15:31] <ed_> ok
[15:31] <ikonia> BB88: just wait until your install has finished and reboot
[15:31] <Twigathy> http://pastebin.com/m5e45d2c5 <-- that one
[15:31] <BB88> ikonia, Heh ok, thank you.
[15:31] <ed_> terminal has come up- i have a dying hard drive and it's causing f-ups
[15:31] <ikonia> BB88: honetly, it's quicker and easier, I sense your a new user
[15:31] <BB88> ikonia, I have been using Ubuntu for about two months now, so not really no. Just haven't really had to configure a new hard drive up until now.
[15:32] <Mez> Twigathy, sudo apt-get remove --purge tomboy
[15:32] <Mez> Twigathy, sudo apt-get install tomboy=0.8.0-1ubuntu0.1
[15:32] <ikonia> BB88: 2 months and you can't delete a directory, with respect I'd still class you as finding your feet
[15:32] <ikonia> BB88: I suggest you read the following URL's to help you get running easier
[15:32] <BB88> ikonia, Never needed to, but oh well :)
[15:32] <ikonia> !sudo | BB88
[15:32] <ubotu> BB88: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[15:32] <ikonia> BB88: thats a key tool
[15:33] <Twigathy> Mez: heh, again, same error
[15:33]  * Mez rolls eyes
[15:33] <Mez> no idea
[15:33] <Twigathy> gah, I might just go without notes for a bit - got work to be doing :(
[15:33]  * Twigathy will report a bug on launchpad a little later :)
[15:33] <Twigathy> Thanks for trying at least, Mez :)
[15:34] <Mez> thanks for being useful and providing the info promptly
[15:34] <BB88> ikonia, Ok. Well thank you for all your help.
[15:34] <ikonia> BB88: welcome
[15:34] <kirk> woot
[15:36] <mattwalston> what is the ubuntu equivelant of redhat's chkconfig?
[15:36] <mattwalston> I am trying to manage services from commandline quickly instead of renaming rc.X files
[15:36] <CarlFK> what is the gui sudo ?
[15:37] <erawfish> gksudo
[15:37] <CarlFK> ah, thanks.
[15:37] <erawfish> mattwalston: try rcconf
[15:37] <mattwalston> erawfish: thanks
[15:38] <CarlFK> where are the "open with" defined?
[15:39] <CarlFK> like a .sh file has "Open with: Text Editor" - in what file is that association stored?
[15:40] <bcpage_> has anybody tried to install unbuntu in virtual Box. I'm trying it now and it seems excessively slow.
[15:40] <jetscreamer> i think in the desktop shortcut. open one up with a text editor
[15:41] <CarlFK> what desktop shortcut?
[15:41] <gnari> mattwalston: update-rc.d
[15:41] <khelll> how to get the mac address ?
[15:41] <obreiro> ifconfig
[15:41] <obreiro> sudo ifconfig
[15:41] <heatmzzr> why cant i play encoded dvd's in my computer and how do i fix it. Pretend i dont know crap, cause i dont
[15:41] <yuras> привет всем
[15:42] <markvandenborre> yuras, please go to ubuntu-ru with that
[15:42] <jetscreamer> libdvdcss
[15:42] <jetscreamer> heatmzzr:
[15:42] <jetscreamer> !css
[15:42] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[15:42] <obreiro> khelll> sudo ifconfig
[15:42] <martin_> hi, on kde 4 i can't seem to get gtk applications to use any theme other than the default boxy gray one, is there a way?
[15:45] <Hami> No sound from web stream, but I do have all other sound working fine? checked alsa settings Help pls thx
[15:46] <bcpage_> how well are the older ati rage 128 cards supported?
[15:47] <crdlb> bcpage_: should work for 2d, but no 3d support
[15:47] <wanghui> vvbbb
[15:47] <punkshui> i'm attempting to install ubuntu on a dell inspiron 6000, and i would like to install it so that windows is still restorable through dell's PC restore function. anyone point me to a guide or have any advice for me?
[15:48] <wanghui> aa
[15:48] <erawfish> don't overwrite the restore partition, don#t overwrite the MBR, instead install the bootloader into a partition
[15:49] <punkshui> erawfish install the bootloader into a partition. could you be more specific?
[15:49] <bcpage_> crdlb: so no fancy gui stuff?
[15:49] <ajitam> hi how can I download file from internet www.mypage.com/data.zip via terminal thx
[15:49] <PriceChild> ajitam, wget url
[15:49] <crdlb> bcpage_: no compiz effects if that's what you mean
[15:49] <punkshui> ajitam wget filename
[15:49] <bingodeville> punkshui: you may want to look into Wubi if you are rather new to Linux
[15:49] <Hami> No sound from web stream, but I do have all other sound working fine? checked alsa settings Help pls thx any suggestion!!!
[15:50] <ajitam> punkshui: thx
[15:50] <CarlFK> wget http://www.mypage.com/data.zip
[15:50] <punkshui> bingodeville i'm not that new to linux i just haven't dealt with dell's partition table before
[15:50] <erawfish> punkshui: by default it's installed in the MBR /dev/hda you want it in a partition /dev/hdaX
[15:50] <erawfish> dells partition table is the same like any other
[15:50] <bcpage_> thankz
[15:51] <punkshui> erawfish i don't want windows to be on the computer anymore... i just want it to be restorable
[15:51] <levander> How do I connect to a printer on a Windows machine from a desktop running Gutsy?
[15:51] <wanghui> have anybody?
[15:52] <Rodolfo> hello! ppl i got myself in trouble...my video resolution is set to 640x480 when i leave a game like frets on fire....
[15:52] <dgjones> !anybody | wanghui
[15:52] <ubotu> wanghui: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[15:52] <wanghui> 有人吗？
[15:52] <punkshui> erawfish so does that mean i have to create a new partition before installing ubuntu? load the GRUB bootloader on to it and then proceed with installation? or ...
[15:53] <rebecca__> im running gutsy, i followed the instructions for the restricted media setup but playing virtually any AVI file, while functional, is disgustingly colour saturated and contrasty. can anyone suggest how the codecs are fixed? i have installed "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" and vlc + xine + mplayer and they all produce the same colour saturated video output.
[15:53] <bingodeville> !ch | wanghui
[15:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:53] <punkshui> erawfish or do i just have to make sure to make a new partition to install ubuntu on to, and set it as the target drive?
[15:53] <Rodolfo> can anyone tell me what i can do?
[15:54] <dgjones> !cn > wanghui
[15:54] <bingodeville> !cn | wanghui
[15:54] <ubotu> wanghui: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[15:54] <WorkingOnWise> whats the big fancy video app that Pixar uses?
[15:54] <maswan> renderman?
[15:55] <punkshui> erawfish ?
[15:55] <Hami> punkshui: why not remove the hard drive and install a new one, if you need to use windows you just put it back!!!
[15:55] <punkshui> Hami Dell doesn't ship computers with an install CD for windows
[15:55] <erawfish> damn. wrong channel
[15:55] <punkshui> Hami instead they provide users with a restore partition
[15:55] <Ttech> punkshui, yea they do... or they did
[15:56] <Ttech> I know you can get you to send them
[15:56] <bingodeville> punkshui: I believe you can call technical support to request one
[15:56] <dgjones> Ttech, its and added extra to the price
[15:56] <rebecca__> anyone know how best to fix the horribly colour saturated video codecs?
[15:56] <Ttech> dgjones,  I got it for $0
[15:56] <punkshui> Hami what I need to be able to do is maintain the integrity of these partitions so that I can restore factory settings at some point.
[15:56] <Ttech> So I think not. :)
[15:56] <wanghui> I come  here  firsr time   .  so  have something  is unkowning
[15:56] <Ttech> lol
[15:57] <dgjones> Ttech, we've just bought a couple of new dells for work, the restore cd was an added extra, rather than included as standard
[15:57] <punkshui> erawfish have you done this before? what method should i use for partitioning this HD if I'm to maintain these partitions... normally the root goes at the beginning and the swap at the end, however I believe the restore and utility partitions are located there. i'm worried that moving them will cause their corruption
[15:58] <Ttech> dgjones, then its changed. I deleted the restore partition and I got the windows restore disk and the end results was a computer free of all that crap ware they install by default
[15:58] <erawfish> punkshui: just don'te delete those parttions
[15:58] <Hami> punkshui: cannot help
[15:58] <Ttech> I don't recommend that I did but it worked
[15:58] <Ttech> ;)
[15:58] <emeline> slt
[15:58] <punkshui> erawfish so i should place the root and swap partitions just ahead of the restore and behind the utility partition?
[15:59] <emeline> gvèuy
[15:59] <sreekanth_> hai everyone... can anyone help me in Gyachi
[15:59] <sreekanth_> ??
[15:59] <sreekanth_> its very important!
[15:59] <sreekanth_> please...
[15:59] <sreekanth_> any gyachi users here?
[15:59] <emeline> tagueule
[15:59] <dgjones> sreekanth_, just ask your full question, if anybody knows, they'll most likely help
[15:59] <Hami> No sound from web stream, but I do have all other sound working fine? checked alsa settings ???
[16:00] <erawfish> punkshui: it doesn't matter where you put them. placement is irrelevant
[16:00] <Ttech> sreekanth_, how about you wait a second and let people reply
[16:00] <FactTech> Question: If I use usermod to change the login name and home directory of a user, will that user's group membership stay intact?
[16:00] <erawfish> punkshui: you should not delete the dell service partitions and not mess with the parttion table (too much). that#s it
[16:00] <Ttech> eerrrr
[16:00] <sreekanth_> ok...i can load my buddy icon
[16:00] <punkshui> erawfish okay.. and do i need to install this bootloader before i go through the ubuntu install? or can i just do a normal install making sure to "not mess with the partition table too much"
[16:01] <Hami> question: No sound from web stream, but I do have all other sound working fine? checked alsa settings Help pls thx
[16:01] <erawfish> punkshui: I don't know. depends on int installation routine
[16:01] <punkshui> Hami are you using real player to play that web stream
[16:01] <twl3> i've installed a number of times, transferring data from many hard disks.. now i find myself with two installations of ubuntu, and no matter what boot order i set the hdds in the BIOS, it still gives a grub 1.5 error.  I've booted off the install CD now, and am planning to install again, but how do i wipe/reset the MBR/grub?  thanks for any help
[16:01] <sreekanth_> but it says that it cannot connect to filetransfer.msg.yahoo.com
[16:01] <punkshui> erawfish okay, thanks for your help
[16:01] <erawfish> you just have to make sure you doN't install grub to your MBR but a partition
[16:01] <sreekanth_> and due to that my friends cannot see my nuddy icon
[16:01] <sreekanth_> :(
[16:02] <twl3> (using guided entire disk)
[16:02] <erawfish> twl3: you install grub properly. please show us your partition layout
[16:02] <sreekanth_> its urgent...
[16:02] <sreekanth_> please help..
[16:02] <erawfish> sreekanth_: the more urgent you ar the less help you will get
[16:02] <twl3> i've just been using 'guided - entire disk', erawfish
[16:03] <sreekanth_> huh!....coz i have a date!
[16:03] <punkshui> sreekanth_ i fail to see how your friends not being able to see your buddy icon is urgent
[16:03] <Hami> Punkshui:not sure but I do hoave Flash9 installed flash9
[16:03] <erawfish> sreekanth_: then you will miss it. we don't give a damn
[16:03] <sreekanth_> punkshi_:do u use gyachi
[16:04] <bingodeville> !traffic > sreekanth_
[16:04] <Hami> punkshui: open firefox and open a youtube video and no sound??
[16:04] <sfears> fatal error: closing dependency file drivers/ide/pci/.hpt366.mod.o.d: No space left on device... i get that error while compiling a new kernel, i'm not out of disk space, anyone know what that means?
[16:05] <punkshui> Hami sorry no idea...
[16:05] <sreekanth_> mmm... i can load and see my pic, but a pop up message says...cannot connect to filetransfer.msg.yahoo.com
[16:05] <rvz5423> sfears: your filesystem is full
[16:05] <sreekanth_> is it bcoz i chose the wrong server?
[16:05] <Hami> punkshui: thanks
[16:05] <erawfish> sfears: either your disk is full or you ran out of inodes
[16:05] <jimcooncat> joe__ , ikonia: no problems! apache2 and vsftp got my website up. It's sure gotten easier.
[16:05] <sfears> what's an inode?
[16:06] <sfears> i have space left on the drive
[16:06] <erawfish> sfears: look at wikipedia. basically, a file entry
[16:06] <^root^> i have a video thats shot inverted, which player should i user and how do i rotated it by 180Deg?
[16:09] <scales> quick question: i have and sdhc sd card and would like to format it to ntfs.  i tried gparted but it will not let me select ntfs.  ideas?
[16:09] <sfears> how would i fix something like that? is there a make clean or anything that would help?
[16:09] <vwfanatic> Howdy everyone! I was wondering how I can configure the buttons on my mouse in Ubuntu Gutsy. The system preferences leaves something to be desired.
[16:11] <pestilence> and it makes noise when i change desktops?  how do i fix that...
[16:11] <dgjones> !mouse > vwfanatic, Please see the private message from ubotu
[16:11] <pestilence> guess i just change "notifications" to no audio output
[16:11] <haxality> hello, I'm having some problems getting the fglrx driver installed and working
[16:12] <haxality> restricted-manager doesn't seem to do anything, and none of the manual install instructions I've tried have worked
[16:14] <dury> ikonia: hji there :)
[16:14] <beggi> (deb smb://HOME/cd1/ breezy main)       is it OK?
[16:14] <dury> ikonia: sorry hi
[16:14] <benno2> hi, I am using gnome directly under ubuntu but I want to run it in a vnc session too (always the same machine, ubuntu and tightvnc as vnc server). the problem is that in the VNC sessions all fonts are a bit smaller than on the native X11 screen. any idea why ?
[16:14] <ikonia> dury: no problem
[16:15] <dury> ikonia: there is not basque package for openoffice
[16:15] <beggi> hi, i'm changing contents of sources.list Is it OK to write like this (deb smb://HOME/cd1/ breezy main)
[16:16] <jimcooncat> benno2: what are you using for a vnc client?
[16:16] <dury> ikonia: I have installed all required packages
[16:16] <ikonia> dury: to be honest I thought open office picked up it's language from the OS rather than the app
[16:16] <benno2> jimcooncat: tightvnc viewer
[16:16] <LjL> beggi: no, "smb://" is a gnome/kde thing
[16:17] <jimcooncat> benno2: I wonder if the client has scaling turned on
[16:17] <pestilence> with kde4, if i hit alt+f2 and type "konsole", hit enter, i get an error:  KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/konsole-kde4'.
[16:17] <dury> ikonia: so what's the solution for that?
[16:17] <benno2> jimcooncat: no. regular stuff. btw could this be my problem ? http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2003-May/039190.html
[16:17] <LjL> beggi: you need that samba share to be mounted, and then specify it the correct way, which however i'm not entirely sure about. also, you know that breezy is at end of life, right?
[16:17] <beggi> LjL, how to add samba share in repositories list
[16:18] <ikonia> dury: truthfully, no idea. you could either a.) log a launchpad request for a tranlsation package b.) ask in #openoffice if they are aware of a solution
[16:18] <LoneWolf> Hi all. I have a newbie question to ask. When trying to located a folder by using "cd" in terminal, is it not possible to locate a folder with a space in the folder name? for example, I would like to cd to a folder in my Windows partition, I type "cd /media/sda2/Program Files" and it cannot find the folder, because it cannot see the "Files" part of "Program FIles", is there something I need to do when folders have spaces in their names?
[16:19] <delliott> LoneWolf: cd Program\ Files
[16:19] <LoneWolf> thanks
[16:19] <LjL> beggi, you should simply be able to specify the correct directory, e.g. « deb /mnt/sambashare/HOME/cd1/something breezy main ». you need to mount the samba share under /mnt/sambashare (or some other directory), and i doubt that the repository is found at the root of the CD anyway
[16:19] <delliott> Or you can use tab-completion
[16:19] <jimcooncat> benno2: geez, I wouldn't think so.
[16:19] <loMMi> hi
[16:20] <beggi> LjL. yes i mounted it and nautilius can open this share,
[16:20] <delliott> LoneWolf: type cd /media/sda2/P[press tab now] this will perform tab completion
[16:20] <LjL> beggi: if nautilus can open it using a "smb://" address, that doesn't mean it's mounted
[16:20] <jimcooncat> benno2: I have good luck with vnc4server, haven't used tightvnc in years
[16:20] <beggi> Ljl, ok I understood
[16:20] <LjL> !smb > beggi    (beggi, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:21] <LoneWolf> delliott ; I see, thanks for the help
[16:21] <ajitam> hi if I install something with apt-get can I uninstall it or somehow delete it ? thx
[16:21] <Micksa> hi guys, I have a small problem with my gutsy which I could use some help with.
[16:21] <benno2> jimcooncat: you mean with vnc4server you get the same fonts locally and via vnc ?
[16:21] <LjL> !apt > ajitam    (ajitam, see the private message from Ubotu) of course
[16:21] <Micksa> After a dist-upgrade (I guess) I can no longer mount usb disks
[16:21] <benno2> jimcooncat: is vnc4server = realvnc ?
[16:22] <Micksa> they don't mount automatically, and when I attempt to mount them from the mount applet thing I get an error box pop up with no message in it
[16:22] <^root^> anyone?
[16:22] <Micksa> I can at least mount from the cmdline
[16:22] <jimcooncat> benno2: I seem to. yes, I believe it is realvnc
[16:22] <benno2> jimcooncat: thanks. I always heard that using tightvnc is preferable as it works better and has more encoding options
[16:23] <beggi> LjL, it's .iso image mounted on smb://mnt/cd1
[16:23] <beggi> LjL, I just want to add to repository list because my cdrom can't be found by OS
[16:24] <Pici> beggi: Is the iso on the same computer that you are mounting from?
[16:24] <jimcooncat> benno2: I believe the vnc4server has tight encoding. Anyway, I have no problem over DSL lines with it (through SSH even).
[16:24] <LjL> beggi, but you need to mount the *samba share*, not the iso. what is "smb://mnt/cd1"? the name of the machine running samba is not "mnt", i assume...
[16:24] <benno2> jimcooncat: I am using it locally, for me the most important requirement is stability, that it does not leak memory over time and does not crash
[16:24] <beggi> Pici, yes it's in my /home directory it's breezy 5.10 iso image
[16:25] <^root^> anyone?
[16:25] <Pici> beggi: How are you mounting the iso?
[16:25] <^root^> i have a video thats shot inverted, which player should i user and how do i rotated it by 180Deg?
[16:25] <Pici> !anyone | ^root^
[16:25] <ubotu> ^root^: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[16:25] <beggi> LjL, oh sorry, I typed wrong, my machne name is HOME so smb://HOME/cd1 this is reachable by nautiliuss
[16:25] <jimcooncat> benno2: I've had great stability with it, unlike the Windows vnc server apps.
[16:26] <LjL> beggi: but as i said, nautilus has its own way of reaching samba shares. for apt, you need to actually *mount* the samba share: sudo mount -t cifs /HOME/cd1 /mnt/somedirectory
[16:26] <jschitto> erUSUL: im sorry, i needed a jumper for sata 150 mode
[16:26] <LjL> read the tutorial
[16:26] <beggi> Pici, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mount-iso-image-under-linux.html by this tutorial
[16:26] <benno2> jimcooncat: thanks, giving vnc4server a try.
[16:27] <jimcooncat> benno2: good luck
[16:27] <LjL> beggi, the problem is not mounting the iso image, it's mounting the *samba share of that other machine of yours called HOME*
[16:27] <Symmetria> hrm, whats the command to install a .deb file you've downloaded
[16:27] <LjL> Symmetria: gdebi
[16:28] <emeline> SLT
[16:28] <Symmetria> thanks
[16:29] <Pici> beggi: I'm just confused, is the ISO on the same computer that you are trying to modify your sources.list file or no?
[16:29] <kam1> hi
[16:30] <oldude67> is anyone running kde4 yet?
[16:30] <kam1> where is the complete noob help room?
[16:30] <heatmzzr> trying to play a dvd, it looks all screwed up, green blocks, scrambled up? help
[16:30] <Pici> oldude67: yes, you can ask for help with it in #kubuntu
[16:30] <Pici> kam1: You're in the right place (for Ubuntu support at least)
[16:31] <oldude67> Pici, was already going there thanks anyways
[16:31] <kam1> ok, I had 64bit xpinstalled, media ctr installed and then put ubuntu on over the 64 bit xp (the trial expired)
[16:31] <kam1> now my media center is gone
[16:31] <beggi> Pici, yes computer name is HOME, iso is located in my /home/beggi/ directory
[16:31] <kam1> should i not even bother with it?
[16:31] <ajitam> hi I get "XAMPP: Another web server daemon is already running." how can I see witch daemon is running and how do I stop it ?
[16:32] <Pici> beggi: But is that the same computer that you are trying to update your sources.list file on?
[16:32] <beggi> Pici, is it possible to add iso image to sources.list?
[16:32] <LjL> beggi: then why on earth are you using smb to access it, if it's on your local computer? smb (samba) is for accessing *remote* files, files that are *on another computer*
[16:32] <a4ndr3c> ajitam: /etc/init.d/<daemon> start|stop
[16:32] <beggi> Pice, yes it's same computer
[16:33] <kam1> is gaim included with gutsy?
[16:33] <Pici> beggi: see LjL's response ^
[16:33] <Pici> kam1: Its called Pidgin now.
[16:33] <ajitam> a4ndr3c: thx but how do I found out which daemon I'm dealing with
[16:33] <LjL> kam1: no
[16:33] <LjL> !pidgin > kam1    (kam1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:33] <kam1> thanks guys,
[16:33] <dkalderson7414> dkf
[16:33] <Pici> kam1: When you were installing Ubuntu, what kind of paritioning did you do? Are you sure that you didnt tell it to use the whole drive?
[16:33] <kam1> i went to the ubuntu community and that was the first thing they said
[16:34] <heatmzzr> after i download a tar.gz file, where should i put it and what do i do with it
[16:34] <a4ndr3c> ajitam: cd /etc/init.d then see which daemon u want to stop
[16:34] <kam1> nope. that hd had 2 partitions, and i kept the xp one the same
[16:34] <kam1> i had 64bit windows and media ctr on seperate ones already so
[16:34] <Pici> heatmzzr: a tar.gz file is just a compressed file, like a zip file.  It depends what it is and why you downloaded...
[16:34] <ajitam> a4ndr3c: thx
[16:35] <kam1> is there any way to play ddo on linux?
[16:35] <Pici> kam1: Whats DDO?
[16:35] <beggi> LjL, because this computer can't find it's cdrom device so i can't use breezy cds. so i'm using iso, also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-8a18d4250a1c368b58239ba0d6fcc4e5639fa42f here are 5 rep types. So I thought SMB is suitable for this situation
[16:35] <heatmzzr> pici: libdvdcss
[16:35] <dka7414> how do i install live ubuntu support from gnomefiles?
[16:35] <LjL> ajitam: aptitude search "~i~Phttpd"
[16:35] <kam1> dungeons and dragons online, it is an mmorpg
[16:36] <diepes> how do i download a flash video to disk ?   e.g http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=6454521153918323669&autoPlay=true&playerMode=embedded
[16:36] <Pici> heatmzzr: Why are you trying to install it from a tar.gz file?
[16:36] <MrKeuner> hi, is there a way to put a line in crontab and make sure that it is run the next time it is turned on if it was turned off at the scheduled time?
[16:36] <a4ndr3c> kam1: try install it in wine
[16:36] <kam1> hou hou
[16:36] <dka7414> and also does anyone know where to get some cool avant window navigator curve themes
[16:36] <kam1> i havent even found wine yet
[16:36] <Pici> !wine | kam1
[16:36] <ubotu> kam1: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[16:36] <a4ndr3c> kam1: apt-get install wine
[16:37] <kam1> ok
[16:37] <dka7414> the kam1 to find wine install automatix
[16:37] <diepes> MrKeuner: what would turn off cron ?
[16:37] <dgjones> !automatix | dka7414
[16:37] <ubotu> dka7414: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[16:37] <dka7414> it is a option
[16:37] <kam1> got that it is low on the priority checklist though
[16:37] <LjL> beggi: SMB has nothing to do with this situation. samba is *only* useful when *two* machines are involved. here, you simply need to *mount* the iso, and that's it. mount it, and then try « sudo apt-cdrom -d /path/to/where/it/is/mounted add"
[16:37] <heatmzzr> well ive tried all i can think of and the dvd starts up now but only through previews then it gets all choppy and crappy looking during movie or errorss out?
[16:37] <MrKeuner> diepes: not anacron the system
[16:37] <dka7414> true but it is an option if you have problems i had masive problems installing wine
[16:37] <kam1> is the dvd scratched?
[16:37] <beggi> LjL, ok I will try this
[16:38] <Pici> dka7414: No, its is not an option and is NOT supported here.
[16:38] <dgjones> dka7414, wine is easy to install via synaptic or apt-get
[16:38] <roald> does xine use the same codecs as mplayer?
[16:38] <heatmzzr> you get that pici?
[16:38] <dka7414> why is it so unsupported tell me for future reference
[16:38] <amiralul> is there any known problems with the newest NVIDIA drivers?
[16:38] <mark2007> hi, i'm on dapper and when I unplug the AC power to my laptop it automatically locks the screen. how can i stop this?
[16:38] <neverblue> amiralul, check the forums
[16:38] <Pici> !medibuntu | heatmzzr
[16:38] <kam1> how long has flash been broken?
[16:38] <dka7414> because i activated all the repositories necessary and had problems
[16:39] <a4ndr3c> mark2007: do u mean locks the session?
[16:39] <neverblue> kam1, a bit
[16:39] <kam1> and does that usually take care of itself in a reasonable amt of time?
[16:39] <th0r> MrKeuner what are you trying to accomplish with cron?
[16:39] <dgjones> dka7414, have a look at the link in ubotu's message, that explains the problems with automatix
[16:39] <ubotu> heatmzzr: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[16:39] <dka7414> thanx
[16:39] <Pici> heatmzzr: Yes, I got it, Use medibuntu to install libdvdcss.
[16:39] <amiralul> I booted normal my UBuntu LiveDVD and X server was serving me a scrambled. Also, installing the latest NVIDIA on my Slackware box, also caused X to act weird
[16:39] <mark2007> a4ndr3c, yeh the same as Ctrl+Alt+L
[16:39] <neverblue> kam1 check the !flash trigger (type !flash > kam1 )
[16:39] <ali1234> it is possible/safe to resize (shrink) ntfs partitions using the 7.10 install disc?
[16:39] <LjL> beggi: uhm, apt-cdrom will probably not work though... i'm afraid it will know that it's not really a cd, unless you list it in /etc/fstab
[16:39] <beggi> LjL, Pici it's working thank you very much
[16:39] <MrKeuner> th0r: I would like to put a line so that it will run an rsync command every night or the next time it is turned on
[16:39] <a4ndr3c> mark2007: log off then
[16:39] <LjL> ali1234: it's possible, never safe
[16:40] <kam1> !flash > kam1
[16:40] <Pici> beggi: thank LjL, I didnt do much for you
[16:40] <neverblue> ali1234, with data on it, and not lose any ?
[16:40] <a4ndr3c> mark2007: do u use gnome as desktop manager?
[16:40] <mark2007> a4ndr3c, yes
[16:40] <dka7414> kam1 listen to what they said they were right sorry
[16:40] <ali1234> yeah, obviously with data on it :/
[16:40] <abhi_> my gcc is not generating an output file
[16:40] <abhi_> what's wrong??
[16:40] <genii> ali1234: Make sure the filesystem is marked clean before resizing. eg: run chkdsk on it from within windows
[16:40] <neverblue> dka7414, East Coaster?
[16:40] <dka7414> midwest
[16:40] <kam1> cool thanks again
[16:40] <LjL> ali1234: it's still possible, but it's really always unsafe to resize a partition. you should have a backup
[16:40] <beggi> LjL, I think it's working, new versions are showing in synaptec package manager
[16:41] <dury> ikonia: is it possible to install this => OOo_2.2.1_LinuxX86_install_eu_deb.tar.gz
[16:41] <kam1> how can i gety my usb web cam working again?
[16:41] <th0r> MrKeuner cron is what you want for nightly ops, but it won' t automatically run when turned on. What i would do is put the rsync in a script that writes the date to a file...just the date...then write another script that is run at login, reads that file, and if the date is different runs the rsync
[16:41] <ali1234> but i mean, obviously it's never going to be 100% safe. but is it even worth trying, or is it guaranteed to completely destroy the partition?
[16:41] <LjL> beggi: well i thought it wouldn't, but if it does, good
[16:41] <PriceChild> kam1, working "again"? when did it sotp working?
[16:41] <dka7414> can anyone give a good link to help me with how to install ubuntu live support from gnome files
[16:41] <mark2007> how can i stop a laptop from locking the screen when the ac power is unplugged?
[16:41] <combinio> hello, do u know maybe how to connect router ??
[16:41] <kam1> hehe
[16:41] <neverblue> ali1234, it will destroy all your info on that partition
[16:41] <a4ndr3c> mark2007: go to administration settings i think
[16:41] <PriceChild> mark2007, that's not standard behaviour
[16:41] <dka7414> does everyone have compiz fusion and avant window navigator in here
[16:42] <Pici> dka7414: What is 'ubuntu live support from gnomefiles'?
[16:42] <LjL> ali1234, it's done by default by the installer if it detects a Windows partition covering the whole drive and you don't instruct it otherwise, so it's generally "safe"
[16:42] <diepes> mark2007: can you then unlockit again
[16:42] <a4ndr3c> mark2007: power configurations
[16:42] <kam1> it stopped when i lost windows, so never since installing ubuntu
[16:42] <dka7414> check out gnome files on the web
[16:42] <MrKeuner> th0r: I see so anacron cannot do that for me
[16:42] <kam1> so.. new question: how do I get a web cam working ?
[16:42] <Pici> dka7414: CAn you provide me with a link?
[16:42] <Pici> !webcame | kam1
[16:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webcame - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:42] <mark2007> diepes, yes, it's just gnome screen lock. it's just a little irritating
[16:42] <dka7414> yea hold on
[16:42] <Pici> !webcam | kam1
[16:42] <ubotu> kam1: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[16:42] <amiralul> so, no one noticed any NVIDIA hicups lately?
[16:42] <kam1> !webcam
[16:42] <th0r> MrKeuner I am not familiar with anacron...give me a sec
[16:42] <mark2007> a4ndr3c, theres nothing related to it in the power settings
[16:42] <ali1234> LjL: oh really... well that's good enough for me
[16:42] <Pici> kam1: just look at what ubotu said.
[16:42] <LjL> !webcam > kam1    (kam1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:43] <kam1> !webcam | kam1
[16:43] <egc> hey guys
[16:43] <LjL> sigh
[16:43] <dka7414> just go to www.gnomefiles.com
[16:43] <a4ndr3c> mark2007: humm damn.. when u close your laptop lid it logoff too?
[16:43] <dka7414> it is a site with packages for gnome
[16:43] <Pici> dka7414: I dont know what you mean by 'ubuntu live support'...
[16:43] <beggi> LjL, it's ok, now i'm going to update to breezy :D
[16:43] <egc> how can I keep X from starting automatically? I.e., how do i configure things such that i need to type "startx" to start X?
[16:43] <roald_> does xine use the same codecs as mplayer?
[16:43] <th0r> MrKeuner you know...it does look like it will do what you want. I will have to look into that further...learn something new every day <smile>. Thanks
[16:43] <mark2007> a4ndr3c, all other power stuff is fine, it's just when i unplug the power that it's not how i want
[16:43] <LjL> beggi: you're going to upgrade to a way out-of-date version... if you're happy with that :)
[16:44] <a4ndr3c> egc: uninstall gdm or kdm
[16:44] <dka7414> Pici go to gnomefiles.com and it is one of the first packages available
[16:44] <combinio> diods are blinking (in modem and in router) but internet doesn't work :/
[16:44] <frankS_> roald_: maybe, some of them atleast. you can configure xineand mplayer to use different directories for codecs
[16:44] <dka7414> compiz and avant window navigator is awesome
[16:44] <Pici> dka7414: What am I looking for?
[16:44] <egc> a4ndr3c: and I'll still be able to type "startx"?
[16:44] <dka7414> ubuntu live support
[16:45] <dka7414> under chat clients
[16:45] <jimcooncat> how to do mass rename on command line? mv doesn't seem to work
[16:45] <PriceChild> !offtopic | dka7414
[16:45] <ubotu> dka7414: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:45] <th0r> MrKeuner I just discovered....my ubuntu server has anacron...my suse laptop never heard of it!
[16:45] <LjL> jimcooncat: man rename
[16:45] <beggi> LjL, yeah i know then to dapper, edgy, feisty , gutsy like this way
[16:45] <KEBA> hi
[16:45] <Pici> PriceChild: Hes asking how to install a package.
[16:45] <dka7414> please explain more
[16:46] <dka7414> how do i get those
[16:46] <jimcooncat> LjL ok, I tried but had syntax wrong. thanks
[16:46] <PriceChild> dka7414, read ubotu's message
[16:46] <LjL> beggi, actually you'd be probably better off reinstalling gutsy from scratch, than going through all those updates... however, that might be hard to achieve without a cd drive
[16:46] <Pici> !who | dka7414
[16:46] <ubotu> dka7414: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[16:46] <a4ndr3c> mark2007: corse, that's very strange.. it always worked like that in your computer or starts with no reason?
[16:46] <katxabas> :)
[16:46] <KEBA> how to start firefrox only by type in contl and f ?`???
[16:46] <ajitam> a4ndr3c: can I remove daemon from init.d (so that it doesn't start with next reboot)
[16:46] <dka7414> ubotu= thanx
[16:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:47] <LjL> !thanx is <alias> thanks
[16:47] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[16:47] <Skiessl> is there a tool for recovering files from a ntfs partition that was on this hard drive before this ubuntu one?
[16:47] <a4ndr3c> egc: i think u need to configure X to load the desktop manager u want, but for default in ubuntu when u tyoe startx it load gnome
[16:47] <white_eagle> hello, I have a problem with java, I have the mozilla plugin 1.4 installed from the repos and the sun java webstart 6 and the sun java 5.0 plugin and the sun java runtime enviroment 6 and i still can't play games at yahoo! and it gives me this error message "This game cannot be played using your current settings. "
[16:47] <dka7414> any help on install .bin files
[16:47] <mark2007> a4ndr3c, i've only just installed dapper today on this laptop, and it does it everytime i unplug
[16:47] <MrKeuner> th0r: thank you very much, I'll be reading it further too
[16:47] <KEBA> dka, mabye youve to comile the code
[16:47] <white_eagle> I mean sun java enviroment 5 sorry
[16:47] <LjL> Skiessl: there are tools, but most are DOS or Windows tools. and if the partition was *overwritten* by the ubuntu one, your chances are extremely low.
[16:47] <PriceChild> dka7414, what is inside it?
[16:48] <th0r> MrKeuner I am reading the man page off my server. It does look like exactly what you want...and something good for my toolbox also <smile>
[16:48] <a4ndr3c> mark2007: try upgrading to edgy... im not seeing why that is happning... :(
[16:48] <Gate_Laptop> white_eagle: did you apt-get install them? Did Firefox do it?
[16:48] <dka7414> KEBA when i go to ./configure it wont it says there is no package of that kind
[16:48] <white_eagle> i apt-get installed them
[16:48] <punkshui> ok i was recently told on this channel to install grub to my restore partition.. .i've also read on forums that this action permanently disables the ability to restore windows on dell computers can anyone clear this up for me.. there is no installation disc for windows with this computer and i want to be able to restore factory settings in the future.
[16:48] <KEBA> how old is the time?
[16:48] <egc> a4ndr3c: i see what you're saying; what i'd like is for no window manager to start up automatically.  I'd like a text terminal to be default
[16:48] <dka7414> I'm trying to install realplayer
[16:48] <dury> Is it possible to install this => OOo_2.2.1_LinuxX86_install_eu_deb.tar.gz
[16:48] <Gate_Laptop> white_eagle: ok, I did the same. I am looking to see if mine work (I have used them on other sites)
[16:48] <mark2007> a4ndr3c, i had to downgrade to dapper to enable wireless on this adapter, for some reason it wouldn't work in newer versions of ubuntu
[16:48] <PriceChild> dka7414, what is inside it?
[16:48] <dka7414> is there a suggestion for a better player
[16:48] <dury> in Ubuntu?
[16:49] <KEBA> (17:48:33) KEBA: how old is the time?
[16:49] <MrKeuner> th0r: are you reading crontab or anacron man page?
[16:49] <dka7414> Pricechild one min ill get it
[16:49] <KEBA> (17:48:33) KEBA: how old is the time?
[16:49] <LjL> dury: eh? is that openoffice? why would you install like that, when there's a *newer* version in the repositories?
[16:49] <kam1> hgmmm
[16:49] <PriceChild> KEBA, pardon?
[16:49] <kam1> anyone use easycam?
[16:49] <Pici> KEBA: Please stop. What are you asking?
[16:49] <beggi> LjL, yeah but i have to do it withour fomating
[16:49] <KEBA> oh soory i mean, what tiem is it?
[16:49] <PriceChild> !offtopic | KEBA
[16:49] <ubotu> KEBA: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:49] <dury> OOo_2.2.1_LinuxX86_install_eu_deb.tar.gz - this is in my language
[16:49] <a4ndr3c> egc: do u use gnome as default desktop manager?
[16:49] <th0r> MrKeuner anacron. ... it is installed on my server running ubuntu, but there isn't even a package for it in suse...will have to find the source and compile it
[16:49] <PriceChild> !away > Tyczek|afk
[16:50] <KEBA> o o soory.,,
[16:50] <egc> a4ndr3c, yup
[16:50] <Pici> dury: Why not install OpenOffice from the repositories?
[16:50] <a4ndr3c> egc: ok try apt-get remove gdm
[16:50] <LjL> beggi: well, good luck... that's a lot of upgrades
[16:50] <a4ndr3c> egc: then reboot
[16:50] <dka7414> Pricechild im trying to install realplay-10.0.9 and have extracted it to the desktop so far
[16:50] <LjL> dury: which language is that?
[16:50] <fbc> How do I get flash on x64?
[16:50] <LjL> !flash64 > fbc    (fbc, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:50] <dury> LjL: basque
[16:51] <Gate_Laptop> white_eagle: I just joined a game of Yahoo checkers and I could observe a match, I am presuming that you can't get that far?
[16:51] <white_eagle> Gate_Laptop, no I can't
[16:51] <PriceChild> dka7414, sh path/to/file.bin
[16:51] <punkshui> hey Pici, you've helped me before: i'm looking to do a new ubuntu install on my girlfriends laptop.. i've convinced here linux is better than windows for political reasons.. but am now running into the problem of these restore partitions and the fact that her dell doesn't come with an xp cd
[16:51] <beggi> LjL, thanks fo all
[16:51] <white_eagle> I'm using ff 2
[16:51] <Gate_Laptop> white_eagle: ok, I am going to get the versions I have installed, just a moment.
[16:51] <babo> how do I stop scribus from opening .txt files ?
[16:51] <babo> it's really annoying
[16:51] <babo> Does anyone on here use QEMU ?
[16:51] <PriceChild> babo, right click it, properties, then you can choose the default app to open them
[16:51] <Pici> punkshui: Whats wrong with the retore partitions?
[16:52] <babo> PriceChild, I tried that but it doesn't work ... :-(
[16:52] <dka7414> i did sh realplay-10.0.9 in the terminal and it didnt work. i did it when i cd to the desktop and realplay folder
[16:52] <PriceChild> babo, can't help then sorry
[16:52] <a4ndr3c> babo: did u try web based virtual machine maker?
[16:52] <dury> LjL: how is it going there?
[16:52] <dka7414> is this wrong
[16:52] <LjL> !info language-pack-gnome-eu | dury
[16:52] <ubotu> dury: language-pack-gnome-eu: GNOME translation updates for language Basque. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.10+20071120 (gutsy), package size 78 kB, installed size 300 kB
[16:52] <PriceChild> dka7414, type "ls" and make sure you see the file in there
[16:52] <punkshui> Pici: well nothing yet.. but i want to be able to restore factory settings on this laptop after the ubuntu installation if necessary. so i think i should leave them alone... i just don't really know how they work or if i can do damage to them by installing ubuntu
[16:52] <LjL> !info language-pack-eu | dury
[16:52] <ubotu> dury: language-pack-eu: translation updates for language Basque. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.10+20071120 (gutsy), package size 40 kB, installed size 168 kB
[16:52] <PriceChild> dka7414, then "sh realpl" thebn press <tab> to get it to complete the name
[16:53] <PriceChild> dka7414, then you can press enter
[16:53] <babo> PriceChild, ah ok sorry - that did work ... i tried something else
[16:53] <Gate_Laptop> white_eagle: did you install sun-java-plugin or something else?
[16:53] <babo> a4ndr3c, what's that ?
[16:53] <Pici> punkshui: My thinkpad had a recovery session, Ubuntu actually detected it and gave me an extra grub option just in case I wanted to boot into that.
[16:53] <dury> already install it
[16:53] <a4ndr3c> babo: u want to create a virtual machine with qemu?
[16:53] <dury> my ubuntu is not gutsy
[16:54] <LjL> dury: also language-support-eu is installed?
[16:54] <punkshui> Pici: okay.. so i shouldn't worry too much about it.. do you dual boot windows and ubuntu on your thinkpad?
[16:54] <babo> I really liked QEMU and generally thought it was great. It stopped working two ubuntu releases ago. It just errors and says it can't find the framebuffer. I can't blame it though - cause it appears that there is no framebuffer in dev ...
[16:54] <babo> somebody moved it ...
[16:54] <dury> yeah
[16:54] <white_eagle> Gate_Laptop, I installed them from add/remove programes
[16:54] <alfi> brauche ein Diktierprogramm für Ubuntu,hallo
[16:54] <PriceChild> !de | alfi
[16:54] <ubotu> alfi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:54] <babo> a4ndr3c, well I want to run a virtual machine. Creating one would be a bonus though ;-)
[16:54] <beezelbub> i've got both a 13.3 macbook running osx and 15.4 dell running ubuntu. they both run at 1280x1024, yet ubuntu feels like it is 1024x768 because the window decorations are so large. i've already taken the dpi down from 96 to 82 and that helps a bit, but not enough. are there any ways to bring the ubuntu setup on par with osx, resolution-wise?
[16:54] <Gate_Laptop> hm, hold on, I will get you a command to find out
[16:54] <dka7414> ok i ls and realplay was there then i put in the partial name and hit tab and it finished the name and when i pressed enter it just went to myname@mycomputer:~/Desktop$
[16:54] <Pici> punkshui: I used to, until I realized that I never actually booted into windows since I got the thing.
[16:54] <dury> how can I know which Ubuntu I have
[16:55] <LjL> dury, ok, then extract that tarball (tar xf filename.tar.gz), and then tell me what's in it (use ls)
[16:55] <Pici> dury: lsb_release -a
[16:55] <LjL> !version | dury
[16:55] <ubotu> dury: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[16:55] <white_eagle> I can't install Sun Java 6 Web Start (32bit) is that the problem?
[16:55] <white_eagle> and I HAVE a 32 bit system
[16:55] <punkshui> Pici: ha, i imagine she'll have quite the same experience.. i just want her to have the option to reload windows.. can you give me any directions on installing ubuntu? partitions, etc..
[16:56] <dka7414> PriceChild= on another topic i have been having trouble ./configure a lot of packages
[16:56] <PriceChild> dka7414, why are you wanting to do that?
[16:56] <babo> a4ndr3c, ?
[16:56] <a4ndr3c> babo: go here  www.easyvmx.com , create your vm then run it with vmplayer
[16:57] <dury> No LSB modules are available.
[16:57] <dury> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[16:57] <dka7414> Im not trying to configure this package i was just saying
[16:57] <dury> Description:    Ubuntu 7.10
[16:57] <dury> Release:        7.10
[16:57] <dury> Codename:       gutsy
[16:57] <LjL> !paste > dury    (dury, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:57] <PriceChild> !paste | dury
[16:57] <ubotu> dury: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:57] <Gate_Laptop> white_eagle: I *do* have that installed, so maybe
[16:57] <a4ndr3c> babo: if u want a very simple how too i can help :)
[16:57] <ali1234> babo: perhaps you need to tell qemu to run in X mode, not framebuffer?
[16:57] <LjL> dury: you're on gutsy
[16:57] <PriceChild> dury, you need only have told us one line of that (ie 7.10 or gutsy)
[16:57] <babo> a4ndr3c, vmplayer is free ? I hate closed source products ...
[16:57] <Gate_Laptop> white_eagle: what is the output of this command? "dpkg-query -l | grep sun-java*"
[16:57] <LjL> babo: it free as in price, but closed source
[16:57] <white_eagle> Gate_Laptop, but why can't I install?
[16:57] <LjL> !virtualbox > babo    (babo, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:57] <_KAMI3> Hello! Do you want to promote free softwares in Hungary? There is a MS sponsored competition at www.legalizalj.hu
[16:57] <dury> sorry channel really sorry
[16:57] <Gate_Laptop> not sure, I will write a command to install that next :)
[16:57] <a4ndr3c> babo: it is free, apt-get install vmware-player
[16:58] <Pici> punkshui: I'd say about 1.5xRAM for swap, the rest for /, perhaps a /home parition if you want too.
[16:58] <white_eagle> !pastebin
[16:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:58] <LjL> a4ndr3c: 1) that won't work in Gutsy, it has been removed from the repositories 2) it's free as in price, but it's closed source, and he said he hates closed source products
[16:58] <LjL> !free
[16:58] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[16:58] <babo> LjL: what's virtual box like ?
[16:58] <a4ndr3c> babo: only the player is free, but it what u need to run the vm so.. :)
[16:58] <LjL> babo: very much like vmware, kind of slower in my experience, but free
[16:59] <_KAMI3> I uploaded one video that promote Linux (my second (much better video) is on the way – please vote to it
[16:59] <dka7414> anyone have any cool links about cool things to do with compiz fusion or avant window navigator
[16:59] <a4ndr3c> LjL: virtual box supports 3d rendering I think
[16:59] <punkshui> Pici: and the placement of the swap and root partitions? my partition table is kinda weird.. it has 8mb of free space ... it doesn't seem to clearly match up to the actual partitions
[16:59] <th0r> MrKeuner do you understand the tab file for anacron?
[16:59] <Odd_Bloke> Segmentation fault.
[16:59] <Timon_Crazy> bbl
[16:59] <heatmzzr> pici?
[17:00] <white_eagle> Gate_Laptop, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51557/plain/
[17:00] <LjL> a4ndr3c: hmm, i know that *vmware* has experimental support for Direct3D, virtualbox i'm not sure, i thought not
[17:00] <dka7414> I love ubuntu
[17:00] <dka7414> none other that is better
[17:00] <Pici> punkshui: In my experience the placement does not matter.
[17:00] <Pici> heatmzzr: ?
[17:00] <LjL> punkshui: some megabytes of unpartitioned space often happen, nothing to worry about
[17:01] <MrKeuner> th0r: do you mean the /etc/crontab? a little
[17:01] <sreekanth_> how can i disable firewall in feisty?
[17:01] <dka7414> alright im outta here yall thanx ubuto and PriceChild and everyone for the support
[17:01] <kam1> anyone familiar with easycam?
[17:01] <babo> a4ndr3c, can you run x mode and vga standard simulataneously ?
[17:01] <Odd_Bloke> How do you spell "Segmentation fault."?
[17:01] <babo> a4ndr3c, http://www.easyvmx.com/ is down ...
[17:01] <benJIman> Odd_Bloke: S.E.G.M.E.N.T.A.T.I.O.N. .F.A.U.L.T.
[17:01] <nickrud> rolaids
[17:01] <heatmzzr> went through everything libdvdcss etc.. dvd's playback previews flawlessly, then when dvd should go to dvd menu, (so you could click play) it errors out... how do i get dvds to play?
[17:01] <th0r> MrKeuner there is also a /etc/anacrontab...that is the file you want for your rsync command
[17:02] <ali1234> qemu has experimental 3d acceleration...
[17:02] <heatmzzr> went to medi pici, did all that installed it all
[17:02] <LjL> ali1234: for opengl i assume?
[17:02] <Gate_Laptop> whoops, he left.
[17:02] <th0r> MrKeuner I am looking at the file on my server, but it doesn't quite match what the man page says
[17:02] <Pici> heatmzzr: What software are you using to play the dvd?
[17:02] <punkshui> Pici okay, so I don't have to worry about boot records etc... on forums they mention having to install something in the boot.ini file on the restore partition in order to boot ubuntu...
[17:02] <a4ndr3c> babo: damn... I can e-mail u a win xp vm if u want
[17:03] <babo> a4ndr3c, nah it's ok cheers ..
[17:03] <heatmzzr> tried all, totem movie player, gxine...
[17:03] <Pici> punkshui: I'm not familiar with having to do that, but it could be a different setup than I know.
[17:03] <ali1234> LjL: yes, that's what it says. there is a direct3d to opengl wrapper available for windows too
[17:03] <babo> Can I run x-mode and vga standard simultaneously ... ?
[17:03] <heatmzzr> could there be conflicting software pici?
[17:03] <lousygarua_> nvidia+compiz frequently hangs when i have maximized or fullscreen windows - is that something common or rings a bell to anyone?
[17:03] <a4ndr3c> babo: try it (the site) another day. Its very simple to create vms there
[17:03] <punkshui> Pici: well alright, i'll just give it a shot... thanks again
[17:03] <ali1234> babo: what does that mean, x-mode and vga?
[17:04] <ali1234> you mean run the host full screen?
[17:04] <Pici> heatmzzr: Do you by chance have libdvdread installed as well?
[17:04] <Gate_Laptop> lousygarua_: I know it doesn't like it when I have a fullscreen game running
[17:04] <heatmzzr> pici: yes
[17:04] <ali1234> i mean guest
[17:04] <babo> ali1234, hmm dunno - someone suggested that i run qemu in x-mode cause it couldn't find any framebuffer on ubuntu ... I'm wondering whether or not i can run x-mode simultaneously ...
[17:05] <lousygarua_> Gate_Laptop: yes but does it ever hang or dies? i couldn't even ctrl+alt+f1 so i have to use the magical-debian-keystrokes to reboot
[17:05] <bratjan> idziemy na piwo?
[17:05] <ali1234> babo: simultaneously with what?
[17:05] <heatmzzr> do i need to take it off pici?
[17:05] <Pici> heatmzzr: Do you have issues with all dvds or just this one?
[17:05] <Pici> heatmzzr: no, dont take it off.
[17:05] <babo> ali1234, normal mode ...
[17:05] <Gate_Laptop> lousygarua_: I have had that happen in other circumstances, but not with compiz running and not correlated to fullscreen games, so sorry :(
[17:05] <babo> framebuffer mode
[17:05] <ali1234> babo: x mode is normal mode
[17:06] <Gate_Laptop> lousygarua_: I mean fullscreen programs :)
[17:06] <heatmzzr> havent tried any others except rush hour 3, all i have with me
[17:06] <ali1234> babo: framebuffer graphics are almost never used these days
[17:06] <babo> ali1234, hmm maybe I was thinking of mode X ?
[17:06] <lousygarua_> Gate_Laptop: k thanks, i'll try updateing to latest compiz i guess
[17:06] <Pici> heatmzzr: I'm stumped, you could try asking the rest of the channel though
[17:07] <bratjan> w 2008 mój komputer zaczal sie dziwnie zachowywac normalnie runing ubuntu i tak ucieka i skacze i fruwa i Bóg wie co jeszcze no i nie wiem co mam z TYM zrobić 6.06. no problem ale to to już jest normalnie crash
[17:07] <babo> ali1234, how can i run qemu in x-mode ?
[17:07] <heatmzzr> pici, it errors out before menu screen, when i select file .VOB it plays but looks like crap green blocks and etc...
[17:08] <ali1234> babo: i'm looking it up now
[17:09] <bratjan> ìŐŕŔŰÝГВёДдЧёввФффФТУДťЁÔЗ
[17:09] <bratjan>       Ůииő óеñЁвв Őøÿмş
[17:09] <LjL> !pl | bratjan
[17:09] <ubotu> bratjan: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[17:10] <Shaw1> hey, maybe someone knows this... I deleted /etc/bind , now when I reinstall via apt, it wont install the example files
[17:10] <ali1234> babo: qemu uses SDL so do something like "SDL_VIDEODRIVER=x11 qemu" should force it. but it should be using X by default...
[17:11] <LjL> Shaw1: try apt-get --purge remove packagename and then reinstalling (if it lets you without removing tons of other packages)
[17:11] <ali1234> babo: can you pastebin a full log of what happens when you run qemu? (at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org)
[17:11] <ksbalaji> I have ubuntu gutsy. Now I want to use my ADSL MT882 - thru ISP - BSNL-India  for broadband connection. I tried pppoeconf.  It gave error: see your cable connections -or another pppoe is controlling your modem..-but the hardware works well in MSW... Where is the error? Please ... guide...
[17:11] <babo> ali1234, http://pastebin.com/m2dfc4809 thanks
[17:12] <babo> ali1234, i was just in the process of doing that ;-)
[17:13] <Shaw1>  LjL: Thanks!
[17:14] <ikonia> dury: apologies I was away from my keyboard
[17:14] <ikonia> dury: are you still there
[17:14] <mark2007> my laptop goes into lock screen (in gnome) when the power is unplugged. I've looked through /etc/acpi/events/battery and all related scripts from that file but I can't find anything that causes it. does anyone have any idea what else could be the cause
[17:14] <dury> ikonia: yeah
[17:15] <ikonia> dury: I would not install that tar file
[17:16] <babo> ali1234, are you still there ?
[17:17] <ali1234> babo: what version of qemu are you using?
[17:17] <ali1234> you are running it in X windows right? not in a console?
[17:17] <fruitbag> Man
[17:17] <fruitbag> I love Ubuntu
[17:17] <fruitbag> Hey, guys -- what is the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu?
[17:18] <fruitbag> Xubuntu *
[17:18] <fruitbag> Not Kubuntu
[17:18] <babo> ali1234, QEMU PC emulator version 0.9.0,
[17:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Different desktops and software packages
[17:18] <babo> ali1234, I'm starting it from the console. I can't find any way to start it from X ...
[17:18] <babo> ali1234,  It doesn't appear in gnome
[17:19] <ali1234> babo: start a terminal in X, and then run it the same way
[17:19] <ali1234> babo: applications -> accessories -> terminal
[17:19] <abhi_> i find the touch pad on my laptop to be too sensitive how do i adjust it?
[17:19] <babo> ali1234, yeah - console == terminal right ?
[17:20] <aszwet1> hello i'm having problems with video playback, it plays fine but there is this strobing line about an inch down from  the top of the video.  i have a dell d800 with an nvidia geforce 4400 i've heard of fixes with an ati card does anybody else have this problem?
[17:20] <babo> abhi_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3994&highlight=touchpad
[17:20] <ali1234> babo: well, if it does, you are running it inside X windows?
[17:20] <babo> abhi_: also ... http://scottcollins.net/blog/2006/01/disable-touchpad-tap-in-kubuntubreezy.html
[17:21] <dury> ikonia: why not install that tar file
[17:21] <babo> ali1234, well I open a terminal in X and then I try to run it from there ..
[17:21] <ali1234> babo: ok so the answer is yes
[17:22] <fruitbag> I love Ubuntu
[17:22] <fruitbag> Great stuff
[17:22] <sandr-_> me too fruitbag :)
[17:22] <fruitbag> Quite arguably my favourite Linux distro
[17:22] <ikonia> dury: because it is outside of the ubuntu package manager
[17:22] <fruitbag> Ubuntu is a very green OS.
[17:22] <pestilence> is it not possible to do dual head in kde4?
[17:22] <ikonia> fruitbag: what ?
[17:22] <ikonia> fruitbag: a green OS ?
[17:22] <babo> ali1234, so if I start it from a terminal in X, that counts as running it in X ? What did you mean by running it in a console then ?
[17:23] <aszwet1> does anybody else have a glitch when it comes to video playback using an nvidia graphics card?
[17:23] <babo> what other way is there to run it ?
[17:23] <pestilence> oops, wrong channel
[17:23] <dury> I personally prefer Fedora or Debian
[17:23] <sandr-_> mine's silver OS :p
[17:23]  * babo kicks dury ...
[17:23] <babo> :-_
[17:23] <sburwood> hello everyone
[17:23] <babo> :-)
[17:23] <ali1234> babo: press ctrl-alt-f1 - that's what i meant by console. then press ctrl-alt-right arrow until you get back to X windows.
[17:23] <shameless_> ok, i have a bug in warzone 2100 where i can't load game saves, it crashes on load
[17:23] <ali1234> or is it just ctrl-right arrow
[17:24] <sburwood> 2 questions.  When I open a terminal in Gutsy, I get a white screen - no command line
[17:24] <ksbalaji> Hi! sorry to disturb - now, I have ubuntu gutsy installed. Now I want to use my ADSL MT882 - thru ISP - BSNL-India  for broadband connection. I tried pppoeconf.  It gave error: see your cable connections -or another pppoe is controlling your modem..-but the hardware works well in MSW... Where is the error? Please ... guide...
[17:24] <sburwood> second, how can I set up Atlantik on my computer locally (I don't have Internet)
[17:24] <shameless_> anyone else get that, or should i just reinstall and see what happens?
[17:25] <luksmann> hey guys - my laptop just won't shut down. the last command from the console is always Power Off.
[17:25] <dury> have to go
[17:25] <luksmann> then it just stays there and the laptop keeps running
[17:25] <dury> byeee
[17:26] <genii> luksmann: "Power Off" means to hit the off switch
[17:26] <luksmann> genii: any idea how I can get it to turn of automatically?
[17:27] <sburwood> help
[17:27] <genii> luksmann: Older laptop?
[17:27] <luksmann> not at all
[17:27] <zylche> 113 more what?
[17:27] <luksmann> genii: a noname core2duo 2.2 ghz, 2 gig of ram, ati x1600
[17:27] <babo> ali1234, err ... that didn't work out quite as well as I'd hoped ...
[17:27] <babo> ctrl-alt-right didn't get me out of console ...
[17:28] <sburwood> anyone wanna answer offline ... my e-mail is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:28] <genii> luksmann: Looks like acpi is not working properly. You could try as a kernel option acpi=force
[17:28] <sburwood> I need to go ...
[17:28] <sburwood> bye
[17:28] <Chris12349> I'm looking for a tutorial on how to get my ubuntu box  sitting on my lan, to be able to send mail.  IE: (echo testmessage | mail -s foo<EMAIL_ADDRESS>  Anyone know of one?
[17:28] <sburwood> and thanks in advance
[17:28] <ali1234> babo: ctrl-right and you have to push it about 5 or 6 times
[17:28] <babo> ali1234, ah
[17:28] <ali1234> babo: anyway...
[17:28] <luksmann> genii: okay I'll try that one! Hope it helps... thanks a lot!
[17:28] <genii> luksmann: Let me know how it goes, I'll be here mostly for another 4 hours or so
[17:28] <zylche> All XKCDers, reply!
[17:29] <ali1234> babo: SDL should be able to use other video drivers than directfb and i dont know why it is failing to do so. but you can use vnc mode instead and avoid sdl entirely
[17:29] <luksmann> genii: okay! thanks again1
[17:29] <kuun-lann> hello
[17:29] <babo> ali1234, so I'm trying to start qemu in X using the terminal ... but SDL won't initialize and qemu is trying to use the framebuffers ...
[17:29] <FoxD> Hi there - I'm new to Ubuntu and am trying to install it on a extra tower I have, but am having trouble getting it going.  I used Wubi to install it from my XP partition, and it looks to have installed correctly, but when I select Ubuntu from my boot options, it locks up.
[17:29] <ads> I'm using pidgin on Ubuntu/KDE, but pidgin has a "big" icon for the panel. Sometimes pidgin makes this a small icon like all the other icons in my panel, but i don't know, how to enforce this. Anyone an idea?
[17:29] <babo> ali1234, vnc ? isn't that the remote computing tool ?
[17:29] <ali1234> babo: yes
[17:29] <ali1234> babo: it will export the guest OS display as a vnc session
[17:30] <babo> ali1234, what should I use for vnc display ?
[17:30] <ali1234> babo: probably :1
[17:31] <kuun-lann> i've got a problem with Ubuntu 7.10. I have a Cmedia soundcard and Pnp audio device (integrated chipset). I have sound on totem or rythmbox but nothing on mplayer in command line or vlc or streaming video..And i want music on mplayer :S Who can help me please? I have tested lots of things that i found on google but nothing worked :S
[17:31] <babo> ali1234, k - it seems to be taking it's time ...
[17:31] <ali1234> babo: you wont get any display until you run a vnc client and connect
[17:31] <ali1234> babo: vncviewer :1
[17:32] <babo> ali1234, vncviewer: unable to open display ""
[17:32] <babo> vncviewer :1
[17:33] <babo> ali1234, nope. it won't connect there either ...
[17:33] <burpsmirk> can anyone suggest why my video play back is luminous? (Intel 945GM Express chipset, latest intel drivers)
[17:33] <ali1234> vncviewer localhost:1
[17:33] <ali1234> or just "vncviewer"
[17:33] <babo> ali1234, same issue :-(
[17:34] <ali1234> babo: are you running these programs as root or something like that?
[17:34] <babo> ali1234, which programs ? vnc ? no
[17:34] <ali1234> babo: anything
[17:34] <babo> ali1234, i don't run things as root unless i have to ... ( so no )
[17:35] <babo> ali1234, I tried opening vncviewer with sudo but still the same issue ...
[17:35] <burpsmirk> 1235 people in here and no suggestions?
[17:35] <ali1234> babo: what that error means is that you dont have permission to open windows on your desktop. it should not happen
[17:35] <FoxD> Sorry, I'm too new to Ubuntu and Linux in general to be of much use.
[17:36] <burpsmirk> Me too!
[17:36] <FoxD> Least you got it installed ^^
[17:36] <burpsmirk> lol
[17:36] <burpsmirk> 2nd time lucky
[17:36] <babo> ali1234, DISPLAY=
[17:36] <babo> in my env
[17:37] <ali1234> babo: dont mess with DISPLAY it is set automatically
[17:37] <babo> ali1234, i'll open vncviewer as root then...
[17:37] <ali1234> babo: it should be anyway. the fact that it isn;t is likely the cause of all your problems
[17:38] <tyler_2> hot swapable ide drive bay? I would like to know how to mount it after putting in a new drive?
[17:38] <babo> ali1234, same problem as root
[17:38] <ali1234> babo: of course, only the logged in user has permission to access the X server, even root does not, by default
[17:38] <tim167> i am trying to install ubuntu on a G4 Mac, i get a prompt like this : (initramfs) what should i do to intall ?
[17:39] <ali1234> babo: it can be forced but not without totally screwing up loads of things, so dont even try it, ok?
[17:39] <aszwet1_> can anyone help me with a video playbac glitch using nvidia graphics card?
[17:39] <brobostigon> tim167: this is a known problem, i have a mac too, i will find the details for you.
[17:39] <alfi> kann man VoicePro 11 mit Ubuntu ausüben?
[17:40] <ali1234> babo: try this all on one line: 'DISPLAY=:0 vncviewer localhost:1'
[17:40] <ali1234> (not as root)
[17:40] <Freakingme> so kde4 was released today, when could it possibly be expected in the ubuntu-stable repository?
[17:40] <babo> k
[17:40] <kuun-lann> i've got a problem with Ubuntu 7.10. I have a Cmedia soundcard and Pnp audio device (integrated chipset). I have sound on totem or rythmbox but nothing on mplayer in command line or vlc or streaming video..And i want music on mplayer :S Who can help me please? I have tested lots of things that i found on google but nothing worked :S
[17:41] <brobostigon> tim167: load ide_core, and then once it boots add ide_core to /etc/modules
[17:41] <babo> ali1234, cool - that seems to be working dude cheers :-)
[17:41] <ali1234> babo: ok - next try 'DISPLAY=:0 qemu c.img'
[17:42] <ali1234> and then try to figure out what you have done to mess up DISPLAY
[17:42] <tim167> brobostigon is load ide_core a command ? or is it modprobe ?
[17:42] <Odd-rationale> How do you get the cube to rotate with the scroll wheel? I had it before, I just can't seem to find the option in ccsm. Thanks!
[17:42] <aszwet1_> hello i'm having problems with video playback, it plays fine but there is this strobing line about an inch down from  the top of the video.  i have a dell d800 with an nvidia geforce 4400 i've heard of fixes with an ati card does anybody else have this problem?
[17:43] <babo> ali1234, cool that works too :-)
[17:43] <babo> thans
[17:43] <babo> ks
[17:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale: ctrl-alt   left mouse  move mouse is the standard way, let me see if I can set it to the wheel.
[17:44] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: Yeah, I have that.
[17:44] <FoxD> I'm trying to get 7.04 installed - anyone able to give me some assistance?
[17:44] <ali1234> babo: DISPLAY is a very important variable that controls which display windows open on. if it is blank, then things like SDL will assume there is not X server running and try to fall back to framebuffer. DISPLAY should be set automatically unless you override it, which is almost always a bad idea
[17:44] <tim167> i'm trying to install ubuntu PPC, get this prompt (initramfs), i did modprobe ide_core, got no complaints so i guess it worked...how do i install now ?
[17:45] <babo> ali1234, I don't override it, but I've had problems with it before ...
[17:45] <babo> ali1234, I should probably set it in .bashrc ...
[17:45] <babo> :0 is the first tty right ?
[17:46] <denis> hi
[17:46] <ali1234> babo: no. :0 is the first X display. but you shouldn;t set it yourself. you should allow the X stuff to handle it for you
[17:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale: Under advanced
[17:46] <denis> alguien que hable español
[17:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale: actions.. rotate cube
[17:47] <ali1234> babo: that way things like X forwarding over ssh will actually work properly
[17:47] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: Advanced? Are you looking at ccsm?
[17:48] <babo> ali1234, i only ever use ssh in the terminal. my server doesn't even have X installed ...
[17:48] <bingodeville> !es | denis
[17:48] <ubotu> denis: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale: yes .. not sure that is it but I think it is vlose
[17:48] <tim167> can anyone help install ubuntu PPC, got stuck at (initramfs) thanks
[17:49] <ali1234> babo: well, look at it this way. for everyone else who didnt mess with that variable, these problems dont occur...
[17:49] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: What catagory in ccsm is "Advanced" found?
[17:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale: bottom left in the window
[17:50] <babo> ali1234, hmm I dunno about that. I've looked for other qemu users and I couldn't find any until i came across this one guy who had the exact same problem as i did ...
[17:50] <aszwet1_> hello i'm having problems with video playback, it plays fine but there is this strobing line about an inch down from  the top of the video.  i have a dell d800 with an nvidia geforce 4400 i've heard of fixes with an ati card does anybody else have this problem?
[17:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Odd-rationale: Advanced search
[17:50] <babo> ali1234, although DISPLAY being missing is abnormal I'll grant you ...
[17:51] <Odd-rationale> Jack_Sparrow: OK then the actions tab?
[17:52] <ksbalaji> can someone tell which IRC application (GUI) has a lot of tools inbuilt? like, viewing only some users, tool config etc..please
[17:52] <tim167> any help installing ubuntu PPC please ?
[17:53] <whabo> hello i need to run win xp virtually what do i need?
[17:53] <whabo> thx