[16:25] <Kyle__> bigpapa: there are two types of multi-head adapters/cards whatever you want to call them.
[16:25] <lund> Stumpy, i had same problem, used another machine to download the driver, cant think of any other way
[16:25] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: there you go
[16:25] <Wiz_KeeD> there i go what?
[16:25] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: there are your devices,
[16:25] <ikonia> as you can see eth1 is your wireless
[16:26] <Kyle__> bigpapa: Some show themselves as one huge combined display (NVidia cards + NVidia's closed source drivers do this IIRC).  Most however, show up as two seperate video cards, one for each head.
[16:26] <smithw> melkor, it's bgn with combo bluetooth, according to some googling
[16:26] <L3top> that is your answer Wiz_KeeD. cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[16:26] <Wiz_KeeD> now what?
[16:26] <Stumpy> lund thank you
[16:26] <Wiz_KeeD> i can see this here: SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="70:1a:04:e1:01:ba", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="wlan*", NAME="wlan0"
[16:27] <Stumpy> That's about all I can think of, but I need to find the actual package in question...
[16:27] <smithw> brb
[16:27] <ment0s> L3top: http://pastebin.com/3nbZ9RaP
[16:27] <Wiz_KeeD> but i can't see it in ifconfig or the other one, what gives?
[16:27] <bigpapa> Kyle__ when i did the command line it showed both adapters, so it sees them thankfully
[16:27] <Wiz_KeeD> L3top?
[16:27] <Kyle__> bigpapa: Ohh, wait, were you seeing a bunch of links for xdmx?  Yea, that's something insanely different.
[16:27] <bigpapa> ya
[16:28] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: your card is eth1 - don't worry about it
[16:28] <bigpapa> i was getting lost fast lol
[16:28] <Bakerboy> c
[16:28] <Wiz_KeeD> why doesn't it have wlan0 ikonia ?
[16:28] <L3top> Wiz_KeeD: be patient. You do not actually have a problem. I am trying to help people with problems... your not understanding "why" is not indicative of something broken.
[16:28] <ment0s> L3top: it looks like partition table failed but under windows  works fine and see only one partition
[16:28] <Wiz_KeeD> i am patient it's ok, thanks
[16:28] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: different card modules will have different names for the devices, some call them out as things like wlan others treat them as a network card so use eth
[16:29] <zion> what is main difference between Lubuntu 12.04 and Ubuntu 12.04 with LXDE regarding performance?
[16:29] <ikonia> zion: nothing really
[16:29] <Kyle__> bigpapa: This is a really old page, but it may help you for a start: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxAndDualMonitors.html
[16:29] <bigpapa> Kyle__ thank you good sir :)
[16:29] <L3top> I see ment0s... can you please run chkdsk -f on it from windows?
[16:30] <zion> ikonia so if I install LXDE on 12.04 ubuntu I can keep Nautilus and 5 year LTS?
[16:30] <ikonia> zion: LXDE is not LTS
[16:30] <ment0s> already did, no errors passed and still the same .. even on other distro's
[16:30] <ikonia> zion: lubuntu (which is LXDE) is not an LTS release.
[16:31] <ment0s> L3top: my pal told me he made that partition through Acronis Disk Director .. might that be a problem ?
[16:31] <Dr_Willis_> zion:  lxde is another desktop you can run alonside uvunru.
[16:31] <L3top> You have acronis installed on the windows machine then?
[16:31] <Kyle__> bigpapa: There used to be a really good ubuntu page on it, but it's not quite comming up.. Good luck!
[16:31] <Dr_Willis_> zion:  you can run nautilus on top of it.. but it may get a little weird
[16:31] <L3top> ment0s: ^
[16:32] <ment0s> nope, I bought this 1tb from my friend its external
[16:32] <zion> ikonia thanks for clarification,Ill wait to see how will  Mint 13 perform on my old pc. If everything fails ill try Xubuntu. I think it has 5 yr LTS
[16:32] <L3top> ment0s: it would appear that this is not an ntfs partition, but some sort of proprietary acronis image dumped in a way I am unfamiliar with, and can only be read, most likely, if acronis is installed on the windows machine.
[16:32] <ikonia> zion: no, it doesn't
[16:32] <ikonia> zion: only Ubuntu is LTS nowe
[16:32] <ikonia> now
[16:33] <L3top> ment0s: give me a minute.
[16:33] <zion> ikonia: Geez us with old PC dont have any luck with LTS
[16:33] <ikonia> zion: that's not what it's there for
[16:33] <melkor> smithw: I think it could be the 8187SE, but there must be somebody who knows.
[16:33] <lund> Stumpy, still there
[16:33] <lund> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43_-_No_Internet_access
[16:34] <ment0s> L3top:ok, ill brb also
[16:34] <zion> ikonia so ill get securtiy updaes for ubuntu but wont get updates for LXDE and XFCE?
[16:34] <ikonia> zion: you'll get security updates to the core OS components on any LTS release.
[16:34] <ikonia> zion: but the external components such as xfce (for example) are down to the team that maintains it
[16:35] <Stumpy> lund: thank you
[16:35] <Stumpy> that is a useful link
[16:35] <smithw> melkor, I'll try that one, as soon as I figure out how realtek's website work
[16:35] <Gunz4MiPPle> what is the difference between the keyrings called 'default' and 'login', right now, 'login' is the default... I know that sounds silly
[16:36] <smithw> melkor, thank you for all your help
[16:36] <zion> ikonia: Well then Lubuntu can get security updates for 5 next years? It just wont get any LXDE updates after 18 months right?
[16:36] <Gunz4MiPPle> 'login' is default keyring, not 'default'
[16:36] <ikonia> zion: at a basic level, sure, that's it
[16:36] <Fisher> !paste
[16:36] <melkor> smithw: funny but that one is one of the few w/out their unix version.
[16:37] <knutremi> Hi. I'm using gedit to edit files on a remote FTP server. But some of the files go empty randomly.
[16:37] <zion> Thanks ikonia If I do remember correctly you helped me in past with ubuntu 10.10. Keep up the good work. Bye
[16:37] <smithw> melkor, that's... reassuring.
[16:37] <ikonia> zion: thank you, bye
[16:38] <smithw> melkor, my laptop is built by a local company, but apparently Toshiba's Sattelite Pro C850-10X/N uses the same card as this one.
[16:39] <Fisher> I usually know how to fix repository errors but this one has got me, can someone take a look. http://paste.ubuntu.com/996072/
[16:40] <kourtney_kane> hi can you tell me how to change gtk theme?
[16:42] <ment0s> L3top: ok im back
[16:43] <Fisher> sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf
[16:43] <Fisher> aahaa
[16:43] <knutremi> kourtney_kane: I think you can change it through the Advanced Settings application. It's downloadable from the software center.
[16:43] <melkor> smithw: odd, there aren't many problems with that laptop and ubuntu.
[16:44] <lapion> I have recently discovered a swap optimised partition profile for people that use a separate home partition
[16:44] <smithw> melkor, I'd be willing to guess the 32-bit version would run everything without a single hitch. But I'm not ready yet to give up half my RAM, at least not until I exhaust every other option
[16:45] <lapion> sandwich the swap partition in between the root fs and the home partition
[16:45] <melkor> smithw: you could try d/loading and older kernel from the mainline ppa
[16:46] <knutremi> kourtney_kane: I checked it now. It's changeable through the Advanced Settings application, yes. Search for "Advanced Settings" in the software center.
[16:46] <ment0s> smithw: 32bit version does support more than 4gb ram ?
[16:47] <kourtney_kane> knutremi: i am getting dependency error
[16:47] <smithw> melkor, which one? some from the 2.x line?
[16:47] <melkor> smithw: I would say 3.0
[16:47] <lund> ment0s, yes with pae
[16:47] <kourtney_kane> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:47] <kourtney_kane> gnome-session: Depends: gnome-session-bin (>= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[16:47] <kourtney_kane>                Depends: gnome-session-common (= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[16:47] <smithw> ment0s, does it? the only reason I installed the 64-bit version is the fact that this laptop has 8GB ram
[16:47] <smithw> ment0s, if there is a way to access all my RAM with a 32-bit version, please do tell!
[16:48] <melkor> smithw: ment0s 32bit os's cannot address more than 4 gigs
[16:48] <ment0s> smithw: ^read lund post
[16:48] <kourtney_kane> can you help
[16:49] <lund> smithw, pae, afaik this default on 32 bit in 12.04
[16:49] <knutremi> kourtney_kane: Are you able to cite some of the information in the dependency error. Or is that all the information you got?
[16:49] <ment0s> smithw: i had server with 6gb ram and pae kernel reads it no bother
[16:49] <kourtney_kane> gnome-session: Depends: gnome-session-bin (>= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[16:49] <kourtney_kane>              Depends: gnome-session-common (= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[16:49] <smithw> lund, so all I'd have to do is install 12.04 32-bit and my RAM would already be there? (I'd do a clean install, this is a new laptop anyway)
[16:49] <kourtney_kane> these are unmet dependencies
[16:50] <ment0s> smithw: and installer detect ram automaticlly so it chosed kernel itself
[16:50] <ment0s> smithw: just install it as normal and it w
[16:50] <ment0s> smithw: just install it as normal and it will do the rest
[16:50] <smithw> so, it seems I have two options now, go for kernel 3.0.0 or 32-bit/PAE version...
[16:51] <smithw> ment0s, how would I know if PAE is active and all my RAM is being used?
[16:51] <knutremi> kourtney_kane: I never figured out how to solve those dependency errors. I guess you have another question that needs answering now. ;)
[16:51] <ment0s> bootloader shows you version of kernel -pae
[16:51] <melkor> the kernel is easy to install and check. Just d/load, dpkg -i. It might not work.
[16:51] <lund> smithw, type free
[16:51] <arianit> histo_, my update manager on 11.10 is messed up. it's not giving me the option to update to 12.04. any idea?
[16:52] <kourtney_kane> yes, i need to change my theme to the default one
[16:52] <kourtney_kane> gimp changed my theme to an odd looking one
[16:52] <ment0s> smithw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[16:52] <smithw> lund, would the livecd enable PAE? so I can try it without installing?
[16:53] <kourtney_kane> the font is pale yellow
[16:53] <smithw> melkor, I think I'll try them both then. one of them should work
[16:53] <kourtney_kane> i cannot see it on white background
[16:53] <knutremi> What happens if you switch between some of the additional themes in the appearance system settings?
[16:53] <smithw> them being both the older kernel and the 32-bit/PAE version
[16:53] <lund> smithw, not sure, why would you not install 64bit?
[16:53] <smithw> lund, no driver for my wireless card
[16:53] <arianit> my update manager on 11.10 is messed up. it's not giving me the option to update to 12.04. any idea?
[16:53] <kourtney_kane> same problem remains
[16:53] <morsnowski> now this maybe a stupid question but can i upgrade 12.04/32 to 12.04/64 and if what would be safest way
[16:54] <lund> smithw, which card?
[16:54] <ment0s> smithw: what wifi are you using ?
[16:54] <bastidrazor> morsnowski: no you can not. you would need to do a reinstall
[16:54] <kourtney_kane> knutremi: i tried changing the user but still the problem persists
[16:55] <smithw> lund, ment0s, RTL8723AE-BT
[16:55] <melkor> smithw: http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-wireless/msg78481.html they mention your card here, you might need the 8192 driver.
[16:55] <knutremi> Which version of Ubuntu are you using, kourtney_kane?
[16:56] <morsnowski> bastidrazor, you're off the christmas card list :)
[16:56] <kourtney_kane> oneiric
[16:56] <kourtney_kane>  Linux ubuntu 3.0.0-17-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 8 20:45:39 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:56] <smithw> melkor, that would even be a better option!
[16:56] <Kyle__> /test/window 6
[16:56] <Kyle__> Heh,
[16:57] <smithw> melkor, ment0s, lund, thank you all so much. I was at a dead end today and now I have three options to try. Thank you guys so much, really.
[16:57] <lund> smithw, and there is 32 bit driver but not 64? seems odd
[16:57] <Lantizia> how can I debug a mount command I've issued that just hangs?
[16:58] <kourtney_kane> i used this command lsb_release -sc; uname -a
[16:58] <billyjam> Anybody knows how to get a Logitech M187 to work with Ubuntu 12.04? Are there any drivers out there?
[16:58] <smithw> lund, the 64-bit driver doesn't work with ndiswrapper, but I think (and this is a guess) that the default b43 driver would pick it up on 32-bit
[16:58] <smithw> lund, also there are reports that 64-bit drivers with ndiswrapper tend not to work
[16:58] <ment0s> smithw: just install 32bit kernel
[17:00] <Dead_AssClown> im new to ubuntu
[17:00] <smithw> ment0s, I'm not experienced enough to manage multiple kernels on a single machine, but I can try and learn how to that also
[17:00] <smithw> *to do
[17:01] <Dead_AssClown> idle can't import Tkinter.  Your Python may not be configured for Tk.
[17:01] <ment0s> smithw: you can also come back to your old kernel anytime, it will be listed on boot menu in grub
[17:01] <knutremi> kourtney_kane: I'm out of suggestions. You could try installing a theme from http://ubuntu-art.org/index.php?xcontentmode=100 though. So guarantees that it will make things better though.
[17:02] <smithw> ment0s, but wouldn't that break compatibility with 64-bit drivers/applications?
[17:02] <ment0s> applications could have some problems but new kernel mean new drivers also
[17:03] <melkor> smithw: If this page works for you, the driver seems to have your chipset in it. http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=53&PFid=53&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8192DE-VC
[17:04] <WalterN> alright, who wants to help with a samba problem? (heh)... I have a server with Ubuntu 12.04, I'm sharing /media/pool across the network... when I boot my desktop into windows I can see the storage pool, but when I boot it into ubuntu 12.04 I cant... here is the smb.conf file http://pastebin.com/ZTpM3P5L
[17:04] <knutremi> Seems I didn't get an answer to my question though. I guess I'll have to try asking again later.
[17:04] <knutremi> Bye
[17:04] <smithw> melkor, I'll try that in addition to 8192CE also
[17:05] <Dead_AssClown> im a newb
[17:05] <Dead_AssClown> i use the plasma pistol br
[17:05] <lanceio> can I remove gnome COMPLETELY and put compiz as my default window manager?
[17:05] <smithw> how can I contribute back? I mean, if that works and someone else also has the same problem, where can I leave instruction so that other people can solve it?
[17:05] <melkor> smithw: that one includes the drivers for CE, DE, SE so if you build and install it you should have all three taken care of.
[17:05] <smithw> *instructions
[17:06] <lund> smithw, ubuntuforums, in the tutorial and/or install section
[17:06] <lund> or the stackexchange or whatever that thing is called
[17:07] <smithw> lund, I'll write a post there if it works and I'll make sure to mention you, ment0s and melkor from this channel. Thanks everyone.
[17:07] <melkor> good luck.
[17:07] <lund> smithw, askubuntu.com
[17:08] <Dead_AssClown> im going to do some python tutorials you newbies
[17:08] <lund> seems like so long ago I had any hardware that didnt work correctly
[17:09] <Zally666> like analog tvtuners in vdr
[17:09] <kallstrom>  what does lund mean?
[17:09] <Zally666> who knows analog tvtuners to work with vdr ?
[17:10] <Zally666> or compile install vdr or yavdr ?
[17:10] <lund> kallstrom, seems like a few people tonight having driver / device issues
[17:11] <Zally666> like tvtime with sudo no audio ... and vdr jusr wont start
[17:11] <kallstrom> no i am asking what is the meaning of your name
[17:11] <Lunar_Lander> hello, I just wanted to setup my Thunderbird 12 (ubuntu 12.04) and it says "live. mozillamessaging. com uses an invalid security certificate." does anybody else have the problem too?
[17:11] <Lunar_Lander> I just found something about that in the german Thunderbird forums
[17:11] <Lunar_Lander> it's Thunderbird 12.0.1 on Ubuntu 12.04LTS
[17:12] <lund> kallstrom, seen forbrydelsen?
[17:12] <Zally666> vdr on ubuntu 12 ?
[17:12] <Zally666> 3.0.0-19-generic
[17:13] <lund> kallstrom, danish cop show, lund is main character
[17:13] <Zally666> whooptie whoop
[17:13] <Zally666> starships supposed to fly
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> Lunar_Lander: https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/topics/invalid_certificate-1hnnbd
[17:13] <kallstrom> oh i c
[17:13] <Zally666> lets do this one more time
[17:14] <kallstrom> lund so you are from denmark
[17:14] <WalterN> meh
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> Lunar_Lander: check the system date and time
[17:14] <lund> no, new zealand
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> Lunar_Lander: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=922555&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
[17:14] <kallstrom> do new zealanders speak danish?
[17:15] <lund> no, but they can read english subtitles, heh
[17:15] <WalterN> been trying to get this samba config to work like I want since thursday when I installed ubuntu 12.04 on my server. Had 10.04 on it and everything worked fine
[17:16] <Boohbah> poor irccloud...
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> WalterN: how are you establishing the shares?
[17:16] <WalterN> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/ZTpM3P5L is that what you mean?
[17:17] <WalterN> ActionParsnip: at the very bottom is the part I care about... /media/pool
[17:18] <lund> WalterN, so what is issue exactly?
[17:18] <nisha> lund were you born in new zealand
[17:19] <lund> yes, why
[17:19] <WalterN> I can log in to the account I made with pbedit on windows, but in linux I cant... it does not even show it
[17:19] <WalterN> erm
[17:19] <WalterN> edbedit
[17:19] <nisha> just asking... i have a friend named lund
[17:19] <Zally666> j #ubuntu-vdr
[17:19] <WalterN> bleh...
[17:19] <nisha> who is also from new zealand
[17:19] <WalterN> pdbedit**
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> WalterN: try:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER
[17:20] <Zally666> howto mobile tv server ?
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> WalterN: make a samba password for your user there
[17:20] <Zally666> vdr or yavdr
[17:20] <Zally666> or any ?
[17:20] <zastaph> if I have a .gitconfig inside my git repository, will it be tracked? and what about all files starting with . in general
[17:20] <Zally666> myth ?
[17:20] <WalterN> pdbedit makes you set a password for an account
[17:20] <Zally666> its to late
[17:20] <zastaph> oops wrong channel to ask :)
[17:21] <Zally666> u got it its out of the Q
[17:21] <Zally666> when i look into ur eyes its over
[17:21] <WalterN> pdbedit makes you set a password for an account...
[17:22] <qwd> I'm trying to watch some images in Firefox on Ubuntu 12.04 but I get "The bucket you are attempting to access must be addressed using the specified endpoint. Please send all future requests to this endpoint." The images are on amazonaws.com, and I can watch them on my phone, but not on my desktop pc.
[17:22] <Timmmm> Hey, this is very off-topic (sorry), but does anyone know if you need a passport to book train tickets in Russia?
[17:22] <nisha> no need
[17:22] <lund> WalterN, are you trying to use the linux box as a PDC or just a file server?
[17:22] <DrManhattan> no, just to get there
[17:22] <WalterN> lund: what is PDC?
[17:22] <lund> primary domain controller
[17:22] <WalterN> uh... no
[17:23] <WalterN> server is just a storage pool network wide, it runs other things too but not related... (apache... etc.)
[17:24] <WalterN> or rather, thats what I want it to do
[17:25] <david__> Hello all can I ask a simple question based on the LuninuxOS disto here?
[17:25] <lund> well pdbedit is for editing users in a sam database
[17:25] <morsnowski> david__, no
[17:25] <WalterN> morsnowski: lol
[17:25] <Jai_Bhadrakali> hi i am getting this error
[17:25] <Jai_Bhadrakali> http://pastebin.com/MPbLP53p
[17:25] <david__> even though it is Ubuntu based?
[17:26] <morsnowski> david__, sure fire away
[17:26] <Jai_Bhadrakali> will someone review my error?
[17:26] <Jai_Bhadrakali> http://pastebin.com/MPbLP53p
[17:27] <david__> okay just installed it and clicked on the update manager so that I can update. By default all the checkboxed are checked. Is that okay?
[17:27] <david__> check boxes i meant
[17:27] <morsnowski> yes if you don't want to exclude something but if you are new it's probably good to leave them checked
[17:27] <david__> okay
[17:27] <WalterN> lund: well... I donno... like I said, I can see the account I made with pdbedit -a -u on windows and log in from there and add files/remove files/whatever from /media/pool
[17:27] <david__> thanks
[17:28] <Jai_Bhadrakali> http://pastebin.com/MPbLP53p
[17:28] <WalterN> lund: but when I boot into Ubuntu 12.04 I cant
[17:28] <morsnowski> david__, next just ask but don't ask to ask :)
[17:28] <david__> k
[17:28] <Jai_Bhadrakali> why is this gtk+ error coming
[17:28] <Jai_Bhadrakali> http://pastebin.com/MPbLP53p
[17:28] <lund> WalterN, from ubuntu can you see the share?
[17:29] <WalterN> lund: no, I cant not.
[17:29] <nano_> hello
[17:29] <nano_> help me
[17:29] <Jai_Bhadrakali> when i open gedit
[17:30] <Jai_Bhadrakali> http://pastebin.com/MPbLP53p
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> WalterN: if you run:  smbtree    on the server, do you see the shares
[17:30] <nano_> linux for:hdd has a 4 partiton windows for: hdd has a 6 partiton
[17:31] <DJones> nano_: You need to explain your problem in the channel before anybody will be able to help
[17:31] <WalterN> ActionParsnip: when I run smbtree, all it spits out is "Ignoring unknown parameter 'update encrypted'"
[17:31] <Jai_Bhadrakali> DJones please help me
[17:31] <Jai_Bhadrakali> * Coolerss<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has left #ubuntu
 nano_: You need to explain your problem in the channel before anybody will be able to help
[17:31] <Jai_Bhadrakali> sorry
[17:31] <Jai_Bhadrakali> http://pastebin.com/MPbLP53p
[17:32] <DJones> Jai_Bhadrakali: I've not done anything with themes so I've not got any idea about that
[17:32] <alfatau> hello! i just installed the 12.04 ubuntu release. I've a problem with the login screen: my name is made of 3 words, but the user selection box cannot contain my entire name. Is there a way to increase that box width? thank you for your attention
[17:33] <Jai_Bhadrakali> DJones can you tell me how to change themes?
[17:33] <nano_> hello ı have got a compaq presario cq61 lettob.İnstall the Ubuntu and 3 partitions are in 1 partiton (sda4\
[17:33] <DJones> !themes | Jai_Bhadrakali
[17:33] <DJones> !changethemes | Jai_Bhadrakali
[17:34] <DJones> Jai_Bhadrakali: As I don't change themes, those links are all I can suggest that you look at
[17:34] <lund> WalterN, so you have a samba server on ubuntu sharing a folder, users on win can see that share, but users on ubuntu cannot, correct?
[17:34] <openbees> software center "install" button not working ?
[17:34] <isotta>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[17:34] <Jai_Bhadrakali> DJones : thanks maybe these links may help
[17:34] <openbees> ubuntu 12.04
[17:34] <nano_> hello ı have got a compaq presario cq61 lettob.İnstall the Ubuntu and 3 partitions are in 1 partiton (Recovery,Files,Backup Files in the sda4.Now ı'm a installing windows (necessity) but dont install.
[17:35] <WalterN> lund: yes. I also checked on OSX and cant see on there either
[17:35] <ikonia> nano_: "don't install" - need more info
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> openbees: close it and run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:35] <lund> WalterN, can only certain win users see the share or all?
[17:36] <nano_> windows install see the 6 partitions but linux gparted see the 4 parttitions.Windows is dont install all partitions
[17:36] <WalterN> lund: heh, dont know, there are not that many computers in this house... all I can confirm is windows 7 can see/access it
[17:36] <lionofgod> hello, I was changing some stuff in ccsm and all of a sudden my mouse became jerky, since then Ive reset all ccsm settings but my mouse is jerky when I move it... Can someone tell me how to reset mouse settings?
[17:37] <nano_> help
[17:37] <lionofgod> My mouse works fine on other compters (windows)
[17:37] <lionofgod> is it possible to install mouse drivers or something of the sort?
[17:37] <morsnowski> nano whats you native language ?
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> lionofgod: is it ok in Unity2D session?
[17:37] <morsnowski> nano_,  whats you native language ?
[17:38] <nano_> ı'm turkish.But dont people here in #ubuntu-tr
[17:38] <billyjam> Anybody here who can help me to get a Logitech M187 wireless mouse to work with Ubuntu 12.04?
[17:38] <lionofgod> well ive tried it in gnome classic and unity
[17:38] <lionofgod> Il try it in unity 2d brb
[17:38] <morsnowski> oh ok
[17:38] <morsnowski> nano_, it's far easier to install windows first. can you do that ?
[17:40] <nano_> windows is dont install:( Windows is speaking THE all partitions:windows can not be installed in this section)
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> billyjam: what is the output of:  uname -a    please
[17:41] <Lunar_Lander> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[17:41] <Lunar_Lander> system date and time is yea, today I mean
[17:41] <morsnowski> nano_, what is it you are trying to achieve ?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Lunar_Lander: cool
[17:42] <Lunar_Lander> ActionParsnip, yea at the german thunderbird forums they discuss that issue too
[17:42] <Lunar_Lander> and that the one guy can't connect his thunderbird to his GMail account
[17:42] <Lunar_Lander> that this might be related he thinks
[17:43] <lionofgod> No, my mouse is also jerky in ubuntu 2d
[17:43] <Lunar_Lander> ActionParsnip, yea, date is May 19th
[17:43] <Lunar_Lander> 2012
[17:44] <nano_> install the Windows7 after (next)Ubuntu
[17:44] <nano_> but windows is don't install
[17:44] <raptor> Hi hurah Finally after more than 4 hours of nonsense I'm finally posting this from ubuntu 12.04
[17:45] <nano_> all partitons eror
[17:45] <WalterN> nano_: yeah, windows is really (really) picky like that... it only likes to properly install if there is one hard drive plugged in.
[17:45] <WalterN> and nothing on that hard drive
[17:45] <lionofgod> ActionParsnip: My mouse is also jerky in unity 2d
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> nano_: just free up space and you can select to install to that
[17:46] <morsnowski> nano_, if you want to get rid of it you could simlpy delete it's partitions and run a grub update
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> lionofgod: if you reboot and run:  dmesg | less     you can see how it gets picked up, may give clues
[17:46] <lund> WalterN, you seem to have a very complex config, to just share some files in your house, all I can suggest is to work through this http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/diagnosis.html
[17:46] <morsnowski> i think he want's ti kill windows
[17:47] <lionofgod> ActionParsnip: how do i run that? At which screen?
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> WalterN, that is not true with windows.
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> WalterN: here is my smb.conf    http://paste.ubuntu.com/996165/
[17:47] <Poindexter_> Hey guys, I am looking for a website interface to have live chats with customers. I have seen some IRC chat interfaces such as "Webmaster" but that is a huge java script. Dalnet has one. There is another one called AJAX. Any suggestions?
[17:47] <Lunar_Lander> ActionParsnip, the mozillazine forums say something about that this may happen sometimes but is often resolved within a day or so
[17:48] <WalterN> wilee-nilee: yeah it is. I was helping my room mate with installing windows 7 with three hard drives plugged in... it would only install properly if the other two drives were unplugged.
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> WalterN: the only lines that arent stock are the bottom few, I then run:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER    and add a samba password, I can then restart the service and samba is ready to rock
[17:48] <WalterN> ActionParsnip: alright, I'll try that
[17:48] <WalterN> hold on
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Poindexter_: could use the freenode webchat portal and join your own channel
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> nano_, are you using the custom install with windows, and is there a NTFS there already waiting for the install?
[17:48] <nano_> we created space, gives the following error: Windows will not load the selected disc
[17:49] <L3top> !su | ment0s
[17:49] <Poindexter_> ActionParsnip I have seen the free Mibit as well. I would like to not be associated with any popular IRC server.
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> nano_: even if you format it in the installer?
[17:49] <nano_> When we make with gparted ntfs, windows says there is no hdd
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> WalterN, at the least windows will with a custom install go to a pre-formatted NTFS in the sda drive, even if there are ext tyoe partitions on that HD.
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> Poindexter_: could run your own :)
[17:50] <Poindexter_> That is the point ActionParsnip. I am going to set up Bahamut server and run something but there must be a private web interface.
[17:50] <nano_> if a make ntfs partition with gparted windows says:Unable to install the disk, windows
[17:51] <nano_> does not delete any disk is unable to
[17:51] <RyaN-user-520>  Sâdece Sus`uyorum...
[17:52] <Poindexter_> ActionParsnip    Freenode is running:    version ircd-seven-1.1.3
[17:52] <q0kh4n> hoþ geLdin kanka
[17:52] <q0kh4n> :D
[17:52] <nano_> oh türkler geldi
[17:52] <RyaN-user-520> hb
[17:52] <RyaN-user-520> kana
[17:52] <RyaN-user-520> :D
[17:52] <q0kh4n> hoþ geLdi
[17:52] <q0kh4n> :D:D
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> nano_, hmm I always use gparted to make a ntfs for windows
[17:52] <RyaN-user-520> Selam
[17:52] <WalterN> wilee-nilee: uh, no. the three drives were two 3tb and one 2tb, insall to the 2tb drive and it puts a EFI partition on the three tb drive... wha? then if the two three tb drives were already partitioned/formatted and plugged in, windows would simply refuse to install to the 2tb drive.
[17:52] <RyaN-user-520> kýzlar
[17:52] <RyaN-user-520> varmý bi aber
[17:52] <q0kh4n> kanka kýz yok
[17:52] <q0kh4n> :D
[17:52] <RyaN-user-520> yardan
[17:52] <RyaN-user-520> :D
[17:52] <RyaN-user-520> kim
[17:52] <FloodBot1> RyaN-user-520: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:52] <RyaN-user-520> var
[17:53] <q0kh4n> aL bak
[17:53] <q0kh4n> banLandýn
[17:53] <q0kh4n> :D
[17:53] <nano_> There is no disk says windows ntfs with gparted we make
[17:53] <lionofgod> AciontParsnip: I did not reboot, but I ran that command and this was output, it mentions the mouse on lines 649, 810-811, 858-859
[17:53] <q0kh4n> ¢ýk nick deðiþtir kanka
[17:53] <q0kh4n> :D
[17:53] <FloodBot1> q0kh4n: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:53] <q0kh4n> kapa ¢eneni
[17:53] <lionofgod> Nothing seems wrong with it
[17:53] <RyaN-user-520> :DDD
[17:53] <RyaN-user-520> nolyuo
[17:53] <RyaN-user-520> kanka
[17:53] <RyaN-user-520> :D
[17:53] <RyaN-user-520> ne iþe yarar bu kanal
[17:53] <FloodBot1> RyaN-user-520: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:53] <RyaN-user-520> kýmýn
[17:53] <RyaN-user-520> :D
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> WalterN, Ahh efi's that is a another thing, and drives that large being read altogether could be a problem I suppose.
[17:53] <peepsalot> i just upgraded from an older nvidia card to a newer one.  what do i need to do to get x running again?  just reinstall the drivers or something else?
[17:53] <q0kh4n> noLuy yw
[17:54] <q0kh4n> :D
[17:54] <lionofgod> ActionParsnip: I did not reboot, but I ran that command and this was output, it mentions the mouse on lines 649, 810-811, 858-859
[17:54] <lionofgod> (01:53:11 PM) q0kh4n: ??k nick de?i?tir kanka
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> peepsalot: i'd uninstall the driver, reboot then reinstall
[17:54] <Kyle__> Frack.
[17:54] <lionofgod> http://pastebin.com/Cwp43QSY
[17:54] <Kyle__> Anyone know how to stop mdadm from rebuilding?
[17:54] <RrR>  Sâdece Sus`uyorum...
[17:54] <T_A_N_K> hmmm
[17:54] <q0kh4n> «lionofgod» ?
[17:54] <RrR> Selam
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> WalterN, not everybody is using that partitioning, not many as of now really
[17:54] <WalterN> wilee-nilee: is a problem. butt tons of problems. could only get it to work like we wanted after installing in excess of 10 times
[17:54] <T_A_N_K> would it be wise to use a 4 gb usb as / and the /home on a hard disk?
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> unless over 2 tb
[17:54] <lapion> Kyle__, not a god idea..
[17:54] <nano_> ubuntu windows ta 3 tane olan diski birleştirip tek disk gibi görüyor
[17:55] <Kyle__> lapion: Probably not.  *sigh*  A typo is causing this system to sync it's raid1 set to /dev/sdb instead of /dev/sdb3.  Now to wait the damn things out.
[17:56] <WalterN> wilee-nilee: linux never has been a problem. just define whatever partitions I want and it does it... no hidden things happen
[17:56] <MadarChodBhosDK> :
[17:56] <MadarChodBhosDK> gnome-session: Depends: gnome-session-bin (>= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[17:56] <MadarChodBhosDK>                Depends: gnome-session-common (= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[17:56] <RrR> Kyle__ amin varmý gardaþ?
[17:56] <lapion> Kyle__, in that case force a halt..
[17:56] <MadarChodBhosDK> i am getting dependency error
[17:56] <Kyle__> thedancingdeer: Wise?  Never tried it, should work OK.  But why?
[17:56] <nano_> kudurdunuz mu abazlar :D
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> WalterN, yeah always works for me I hardly use windows I started on open source
[17:56] <Kyle__> lapion: I wonder if I can fail it....
[17:56] <nano_> :(
[17:56] <lapion> Kyle__, you might still be able to recover other partitions
[17:57] <RrR> Hello
[17:57] <RrR> How are you girls?
[17:57] <Kyle__> lapion: It was an empty replacement drive for the dead one dell shipped with my server.
[17:57] <Kyle__> Damn dell
[17:57] <billyjam> Anybody here who can help me to get a Logitech M187 wireless mouse to work with Ubuntu 12.04?
[17:57] <Kyle__> So, how come RrR hasn't been kickbanned by now?
[17:57] <lapion> Kyle__, let it rebuild
[17:57] <nano_> :(
[17:57] <Kyle__> lapion: Yea, probably right.
[17:57] <L3top> Do you have a support question RrR?
[17:57] <lapion> use it as is
[17:57] <RrR> Kyle__ f*ck off bebegim
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> WalterN, efi and gpt partitioning though is trickier it seems
[17:57] <LordOfTime> !ops | RrR
[17:57] <lionofgod> billyjam: I have a feeling that ubuntu doesnt like logitech... my logitech mouse is all jerky >.<
[17:58] <LordOfTime> thanks bazhang
[17:58] <WalterN> wilee-nilee: also, windows built in software RAID is complete garbage... <3 mdadm
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> billyjam: what is the output of:  uname -a     please
[17:58] <lionofgod> Can someone please help me get my mouse fixed... its all jerky!
[17:58] <billyjam> lionofgod: So I've understod.. but mine doesn't seem to work at all.... :(
[17:58] <lapion> RrR, please no swearing.. Kyle__  you neither.. it's not the word that's a swearin it's the intention behind the word
[17:58] <Kyle__> WalterN: And mdadm supports raid6 :) which is fantastic.
[17:58] <lionofgod> billyjam: when you boot?
[17:59] <Kyle__> lapion: Sorry.  Is using fsck as a swear word still ok?
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> WalterN, would not know I always do a mbr partitioning, since my setup are that way stock, I have not had to deal with any other yet thank goodness.
[17:59] <MadarChodBhosDK> while installing gnome tweak tool from software center i get this dependency error
[17:59] <MadarChodBhosDK> gnome-session: Depends: gnome-session-bin (>= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[17:59] <MadarChodBhosDK>                Depends: gnome-session-common (= 3.2.1-0ubuntu8) but 3.2.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[17:59] <q0kh4n> türkLer nerde
[17:59] <lionofgod> billyjam: My mouse does not work on first boot, but when I reboot it works
[17:59] <q0kh4n> turkLer yazsin
[17:59] <q0kh4n> aLoo
[17:59] <lapion> like I said it's the intention behind the word.. not the word itself
[17:59] <Kyle__> gotcha.
[17:59] <WalterN> wilee-nilee: its not a problem... unless its on windows.
[18:00] <L3top> MadarChodBhosDK: do you have any PPA's installed?
[18:00] <MadarChodBhosDK> Is there any way to solve the dependency error
[18:00] <billyjam> ActionParsnip: Linux bjam-laptop 3.2.0-24-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 25 08:43:52 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> MadarChodBhosDK: can you PASTEBIN the output of:  apt-cache policy gnome-session; apt-cache policy gnome-session-bin
[18:00] <lund> last time i saw someone get told off for swearing they were told there might be priests or small children in the channel, heh
[18:00] <billyjam> lionofgod: ok, thank's I'll try that
[18:00] <L3top> MadarChodBhosDK: do what ActionParsnip said
[18:00] <lionofgod> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/Cwp43QSY, heres the log... everything looks fine it mentions mouse on last lines and around line 809
[18:00] <JeffSpicoliDude> Haha.  One is a danger to the other :P
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> billyjam: if you unload then reload the psmouse module, does it help?
[18:01] <lanceio> I just deleted unity and all of gnome, how do I get compiz? when I install compiz, it says its alredy the latest version
[18:01] <lionofgod> sudo apt-get install ccsm
[18:01] <delac> does anyone know if the state given by "nmcli nm wwan" is stored somewhere?
[18:01] <MadarChodBhosDK> ActionParsnip:GNU bash, version 4.2.10(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
[18:02] <lanceio> I did that too, but im on fluxbox now and how do I access compiz using gdm?
[18:02] <L3top> !pastebin | MadarChodBhosDK
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> MadarChodBhosDK: run the command then use pastebin to host it
[18:03] <MadarChodBhosDK> ok
[18:03] <lionofgod> Aooarebtly compiz does not work on fluxbox...
[18:03] <lionofgod> *apparently
[18:03] <Chat8197> Hi
[18:03] <Tynach> Has anybody gotten the Alternate Installer for 12.04 to properly install a bootable system while using LVM?
[18:03] <lionofgod> ActionParsnip: hey, can you please help me fin my mouse : )
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> lanceio: compiz is a WM, as is fluxbox
[18:04] <Kyle__> linagee: I don't beleive fluxbox is a full gnome WM.  I thought you needed a full gnome wm for compiz sutff to work on it.
[18:04] <lanceio> ActionParsnip, exactly: which is why I wanna go into compiz to remove fluxbox
[18:04] <MadarChodBhosDK> http://pastebin.com/QRb2bsm5
[18:04] <Kyle__> ActionParsnip: It's a full WM, not just a collection of pretties for all gnome vms?
[18:04] <lionofgod> laveio: compiz --replace
[18:04] <Kyle__> s/vms/wms
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> lionofgod: then press ALT+F2 and run:  compiz --replace
[18:04] <Tynach> I've tried everything, and I can't get it to work. I'm using a separate /boot partition, and even when it fails, I try to open a console in recovery mode with my root filesystem and try to reinstall grub and so forth... Nothing works.
[18:04] <votproductions> rtfm
[18:04] <lanceio> lionofgod, that doesnt work
[18:04] <lanceio> it says fluxbox is running
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> MadarChodBhosDK: can you PM me and paste the text to me, my workplace blocks pastebin
[18:05] <lionofgod> try metacity --replace
[18:05] <votproductions> rtfm
[18:05] <lionofgod> and then compiz --replace
[18:05] <lanceio> Window manager warning: Screen 0 on display ":0.0" already has a window manager
[18:05] <Tynach> lanceio, if you run "compiz --replace" it should work. Note that is "compiz SPACE DASH DASH replace".
[18:05] <lanceio> same error for both of them
[18:05] <iKelvin> Hello championship league is going to play in less than an hour
[18:05] <unkn-error> Is there a way to check the reability of an hardisk from linux? Search && fix for physical bad blocks on old laptop ide hdd?
[18:06] <lionofgod> ActionParsnip: is their any mouse setting that I can reset?
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> lionofgod: not sure dude, sorry
[18:06] <Kyle__> unkn-error: badblocks is the classic one.  Also install smartmontools, it will let you check the smart status and run smart tests.
[18:06] <lionofgod> Actionparsnip: k w/e
[18:06] <Tynach> Does anybody know about my LVM problem? Details of someone else having it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1000927
[18:06] <unkn-error> Kyle__: thx
[18:07] <Icehawk78> I'm having a weird issue - all of my video playback on my system appears to be running at 2x speed
[18:07] <iKelvin> Does anyone know how to mount iphone4 to ubuntu 12.04?
[18:07] <votproductions> rtfm
[18:07] <L3top> in what program Icehawk78
[18:07] <DJones> votproductions: Please don't do that
[18:07] <ikonia> votproductions: unacceptable
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk78: which apps have you tried?
[18:07] <ikonia> votproductions: if you can't/don't want to help - don't
[18:07] <Kyle__> Tynach: Are you installing grub on an LVM /boot partition?
[18:07] <billyjam> ActionParsnip: It worked after reboot, thank's for your help!
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> billyjam: sweet
[18:08] <Icehawk78> ActionParsnip: xbmc, movie player, vlc
[18:08] <ikonia> Tynach: I don't believe /boot can be on an lvm partition
[18:08] <WalterN> ActionParsnip: ahhhh.... woot *squee* thanks... it worked with that.. not sure what was wrong before
[18:08] <Kyle__> Tynach: Nevermind, page finally loaded
[18:08] <Tynach> Kyle__, no, I have a separate normal /boot partition, and I'm installing Grub to /dev/sda, not a partition.
[18:08] <lanceio> sudo apt-get install compiz-*
[18:08] <lanceio> is what I tried now
[18:08] <Tynach> ikonia, I have a separate non-lvm partition for /boot.
[18:08] <ikonia> Tynach: so then the machine should boot fine, at worst complain that it can't see /
[18:08] <ikonia> (assuming / is on lvm)
[18:08] <Tynach> Yes, / is on lvm.
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> WalterN: no idea, thats all I do on a fresh install of my server. Copy file in, make smbpasswd users, resart smbd service. done
[18:09] <ikonia> Tynach: so it should at least start to boot, and at worst compain it can't see /
[18:09] <L3top> np ment0s... have a good one.
[18:09] <Kyle__> Tynach: Yea, should be fine.  / on LVM is prefectly fine, I do it routinely.  My guess is the problem is somewhere in the encryption part.
[18:09] <Tynach> ikonia, Kyle__, I'm not using encryption, unlike this guy. I'm just using LVM. I had the exact same setup for 11.04 and 11.10, but now it's not working in 12.04.
[18:09] <kelvinella> hi
[18:09] <Icehawk78> ActionParsnip: It appears to be music, too. I just loaded an mp3 into Banshee and that also had an issue. I'm guessing it's a setting to do with my video card (connected via HDMI) but I'm not really sure.
[18:10] <ikonia> Tynach: what error are you actually getting
[18:10] <eldeloli> bona tarda
[18:10] <votproductions> rtfm
[18:10] <Kyle__> Tynach: Oooh.  Oh.  It worked on my laptop I think.  I could pull up a VM and give it a shot.
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Icehawk78: try enabling vsync in your playeras
[18:11] <kelvinella> hello?
[18:11] <Tynach> ikonia, Kyle__: error is something like "error: no such device: *insert long hex string*".
[18:11] <WalterN> ActionParsnip: herm... its showing it as "samba24" when I log in... what is the setting to change that?
[18:11] <Tynach> And then a grub rescue prompt.
[18:11] <Kyle__> Tynach: Is this on apple hardware or one of the odd MSI motherboards taht uses EFI?
[18:11] <ikonia> Tynach: need to take a note of that error, especially the device it is looking for
[18:12] <Tynach> Kyle__, no, this is on a 1 - 3 year old ASUS motherboard.
[18:12] <Tynach> ikonia, I'm currently reinstalling Ubuntu (with the exact same setup, but formatting all relevant partitions and redoing the LVM), so if it happens again, I will note the error.
[18:12] <Kyle__> Tynach: Hum.  I don't recall hearing about EFI on asuses, but I"m not expert on them either.... This just rings a bell for when I had to install ubuntu-server on a system with EFI.
[18:13] <Tynach> Kyle__, if it were EFI, it wouldn't have worked in 11.10 and 11.04.
[18:14] <Kyle__> Tynach: 11 worked with EFI.  It was strange, but it worked.
[18:14] <Tynach> Kyle__, and 12.04 doesn't? Isn't that a regression?
[18:15] <MadarChodBhosDK> How to know if i installed Gnome3 ppa  and how to remove it?
[18:15] <Kyle__> Tynach: It may be.  I'm testing really quick on a VM with a standard bios.
[18:15] <dontknow> how can i change selected items orange colour. I did in gconf-editor "gnome => desktop => interface" and added "gtk-color-scheme" and added colr code but it doesn't effect!?
[18:15] <Tynach> Kyle__, alright. I'd do the same, except all my VM testing I do is on my desktop which, well... Can't boot, can't test.
[18:16] <guest_128> Someone here?
[18:16] <Tynach> dontknow, try installing the "Gnome Tweak Tool". From there you can customize color settings.
[18:16] <ikonia> guest_128: 1400+ people are
[18:16] <dayNnight> Lovely
[18:16] <dayNnight> I am using an open proxy right now
[18:16] <Tynach> guest_128, there are 1660 people here total.
[18:16] <dontknow> Tynach, i installed it and i didn't see any color costumising
[18:16] <WalterN> 1,660 ppl
[18:16] <dayNnight> but for some reason that doesnt work for IcqNet
[18:16] <dayNnight> Someone knows why, or what else to use?
[18:17] <ikonia> dayNnight: this channel is for ubuntu technical support only
[18:17] <ikonia> dayNnight: please keep to within that topic
[18:17] <dayNnight> Well, all other channels/forums are dead
[18:17] <dayNnight> I thought one of you might know this
[18:17] <Tynach> dontknow, you're right. I just double checked, and it doesn't have it. Lame.
[18:17] <ikonia> dayNnight: that doesn't mean here is acceptable
[18:17] <dontknow> Tynach, where is the color change section in tweak tool
[18:17] <ikonia> dayNnight: sorry, we stick within ubuntu technical support in here
[18:17] <dontknow> Tynach, yes
[18:17] <dayNnight> Jeez, why so strict
[18:17] <ikonia> dayNnight: sorry, those are the rules
[18:18] <MadarChodBhosDK> How to remove Gnome3 ppa
[18:18] <dayNnight> I use Ubuntu and Xchat anyways. So no-one knows something to try, except for Tor or Open proxys?
[18:18] <dontknow> how can i change selected items orange colour. I did in gconf-editor "gnome => desktop => interface" and added "gtk-color-scheme" and added colr code but it doesn't effect!? No one knows about this?!!
[18:18] <ikonia> dayNnight: sorry, I don't appear to be making myself clear
[18:19] <ikonia> dayNnight: this is not an ubuntu issue, so not ontopic for this channel
[18:19] <kelvin911> hi how to retrieve my nickname password?
[18:19] <ikonia> kelvin911: from where ?
[18:19] <kelvin911> from reenode
[18:19] <kelvin911> freenode
[18:19] <ikonia> kelvin911: ask in #freenode
[18:19] <kelvin911> thx
[18:20] <yeats> MadarChodBhosDK: open the software center, go to Edit -> Software Sources, click  on the Other Software tab and unclick the PPA
[18:20] <dayNnight> Ignore me if you please. seriously
[18:20] <bazhang> dayNnight, #freenode NOT here
[18:20] <ikonia> dayNnight: no, follow the rules
[18:20] <dayNnight> the rules are a bit old then
[18:20] <MadarChodBhosDK> yeats:trying that....
[18:21] <guest_128> That was unnecessary
[18:21] <L3top> MadarChodBhosDK: if not, check the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list.d   it can probably be deleted from there.
[18:21] <prateekp> what is the command to remove a directory
[18:21] <Tynach> prateekp, rm -r foldername
[18:22] <Tynach> The -r is for 'recursive'.
[18:22] <prateekp> rm -rf i guess u mean
[18:22] <ntyp> prateekp: it it's empty, `rmdir`. if it's not empty, use `rm -R` or `rm -r` (both works)
[18:22] <ntyp> for more details use `man rm` or `man rmdir`
[18:22] <Tynach> prateekp, the 'f' part of that will FORCE deleting files that you might want to keep. If you want to be safe, just use rm -r.
[18:23] <ntyp> i never use rm -f except it is absolutely necessary
[18:23] <prateekp> ok
[18:23] <Tynach> Because rm -r will ask you "Are you sure you want to delete this file (y/n)?"
[18:23] <Tynach> And rm -rf will just say "IMMA DELETE EVERYTHING MUAHAHAHA!!!".
[18:23] <ntyp> linux is like a good soldier
[18:24] <ntyp> if tell it to `rm -Rf /`, it says, yes sir
[18:24] <As001> Hi my MOSART Semi. USB Composite Device Keyboard does not work while mouse is working can you help me
[18:24] <bastidrazor> !danger
[18:24] <bastidrazor> !ops
[18:24] <rahulwadh> hey
[18:24] <ikonia> bastidrazor: ok ok
[18:25] <bastidrazor> oops.. i missed it.
[18:25] <bastidrazor> ikonia: yeah, i didn't read the scroll.
[18:25] <ikonia> ntyp: careful, don't post stuff like that incase people try it
[18:25] <ikonia> bastidrazor: it's fine
[18:25] <Tynach> ikonia, Kyle__: I just finished the reinstallation, and it gives the same error.
[18:25] <Tynach> Here's the full error:
[18:25] <ntyp> u're right, i should take more care
[18:25] <ikonia> Tynach: don't paste it
[18:25] <ikonia> Tynach: use a pastebin
[18:25] <ikonia> ntyp: thanks
[18:25] <rahulwadh> i am using windows 8 and now i want to shift to ubuntu 12.04 or linux mint maya i have tried everything but it never boots up\
[18:25] <Tynach> It's one line, but ok.
[18:25] <ntyp> ikonia: nothing for, it my fault. thanks for the hint
[18:25] <ntyp> +was
[18:25] <ikonia> Tynach: one line is fine
[18:26] <escott> rahulwadh, details
[18:26] <Fisher> I usually know how to fix repository errors but this one has got me, can someone take a look. http://paste.ubuntu.com/996072/
[18:26] <thebishop> hi, mounting ntfs with fstab seems broken.  i'm using the entry below, and i get an error on boot to skip mounting: UUID=d1a13949-f2a0-4c73-8177-6ca6da7a5caf /mnt/storage          ntfs-3g auto,users,uid=0,gid=1000,umask=000,rw   0 0
[18:26] <As001> I can see it in dmesg output but keyboeard does not work at all.
[18:26] <shawe> rahulwadh, did you get a black screen on boot?
[18:26] <MadarChodBhosDK> yeats : there is no such option in that tab,
[18:26] <rahulwadh> i tried booting it with cd,dvd,flash drive it says reboot to finish installing but after that it never boots up
[18:26] <rahulwadh> yes i got a pure black screen
[18:27] <MadarChodBhosDK> maybe the gnome3 tools is not installed
[18:27] <shawe> what graphic card do you have?
[18:27] <thebishop> rahulwadh, is this a laptop?
[18:27] <L3top> MadarChodBhosDK: if not, check the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list.d it can probably be deleted from there.
[18:27] <shawe> maybe is a driver problem
[18:27] <omerta> hi all
[18:27] <Tynach> error: no such device: 3420f7fa-d0a0-4f89-8d65-c40868337d5b.
[18:27] <L3top> MadarChodBhosDK: you will need to run update afterwards
[18:27] <thebishop> rahulwadh, i have a laptop which boots fine, but the brightness defaults to 0, boost up the brightness and it works
[18:27] <rahulwadh> yes it is a laptop and i have ati 512 mb graphics card
[18:27] <ikonia> Tynach: ok, look at what that device is
[18:27] <rahulwadh> wait a sec m trying
[18:27] <Tynach> Then the next line has "grub rescue> _" with the _ being a blinking cursor.
[18:28] <escott> thebishop, verify the uuid by running sudo blkid
[18:28] <Tynach> ikonia, I have no idea how to do that. I am not familiar with the grub command line.
[18:28] <omerta> what is the best site for ubuntu newbies??
[18:28] <rahulwadh> oh thanks alot i have been trying this since lst 2 days n its only a brightness problem
[18:28] <shawe> rahulwadh, try pressing CTRL+ALT+F1 when screen goes black, if you can see a terminal, it is working
[18:28] <rahulwadh> thanks alot
[18:28] <ikonia> Tynach: you'll need to boot into a livecd and look using "blkid"
[18:28] <Node_556> alguem me ajuda ??
[18:28] <ikonia> Tynach: you may want to consider changing the device path to /dev/sda2 or whatever you want it to be
[18:28] <thebishop> escott, oh shit... thanks a lot, the disk isn't ntfs after all
[18:28] <rahulwadh> i wish i could do repay u if i can
[18:28] <shawe> you can see on /var/log/Xorg.0.log what is happening
[18:28] <thebishop> escott, /me is dumb
[18:28] <Node_556> Brazil ??
[18:28] <ikonia> Tynach: I suspect your lvm disk isn't starting quick enough to be seen
[18:28] <Node_556> Help me
[18:28] <Node_556> Help me
[18:28] <FloodBot1> Node_556: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:28] <ikonia> Node_556: stop
[18:29] <rahulwadh> windows suck\
[18:29] <DJones> !br | Node_556
[18:29] <Tynach> ikonia, because I'm using LVM, I presume I'll need to use a LiveCD that is not Ubuntu? Ubuntu LiveCD doesn't come with LVM.
[18:29] <ikonia> rahulwadh: don't need that sort of nonsense here
[18:29] <As001> can you tell me configuration file for X so I can try to set it
[18:29] <ikonia> Tynach: ahh, I take your point
[18:29] <ikonia> As001: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:29] <ikonia> Tynach: are you using any form of raid by any chance
[18:30] <Fisher> linux mint 13 meya rc in the wild.
[18:30] <Kyle__> Tynach: Ubuntu alternate
[18:30] <kelvinella> hi
[18:30] <L3top> ikonia: couldn't Tynach install LVM from the live disk?
[18:30] <Tynach> ikonia, not really, but I'm using LVM as a sort of RAID. Here's a description of my setup: https://plus.google.com/u/0/110992079327865803047/posts/eYfhiK4Gecr
[18:30] <shawe> rahulwadh, its backlight to 0 on start?
[18:30] <Tynach> Kyle__, the alternate installer isn't exactly a LiveCD.
[18:31] <ikonia> L3top: no, not without a signigicant error
[18:31] <ikonia> L3top: significant effort sorrt
[18:31] <Kyle__> Tynach: Good point, was thinking installing :)
[18:31] <Node_556> thankz DJones
[18:31] <Fisher> ActionParsnip, I usually know how to fix repository errors but this one has got me, can someone take a look. http://paste.ubuntu.com/996072/
[18:31] <Kyle__> Tynach: you're using lvm mirroring, but not on /boot, right?  lvm mirroring on boot can cause a system to be non-bootable.
[18:31] <MadarChodBhosDK> L3top: Here are the contents of etc/apt/sources.list.d/oneiric.partner.list------> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner #Added by software-center
[18:31] <Tynach> L3top, I probably could, good point. ikonia, you sure? I thought as long as you had enough RAM (I have 6GB), you could install stuff in the LiveCD session. Kyle__, alternate installer is what I used to install; and just went through the reinstall, with the same issue.
[18:32] <shawe> if "problem" persists, you can put on rc.local a command for replace brightness to 100% on boot, isn't the best solution, but you don't need to do it manually anymore
[18:32] <Tynach> Kyle__, no, not mirroring, striping. And /boot is a normal ext4 partition.
[18:32] <DaDaDOSPrompt> update manager moving slowly for anyone else today?
[18:32] <ikonia> Tynach: ok, so here are some things to consider
[18:32] <DaDaDOSPrompt> I pressed check a while ago and it is going nuts on me
[18:32] <DaDaDOSPrompt> downloads are quite slow, but nothing else is
[18:32] <L3top> MadarChodBhosDK: is there anything else in /etc/apt/sources.list.d other than that?
[18:33] <ikonia> Tynach: you have partitions for the the LVM section, are their partition types marked as "LVM"
[18:33] <Tynach> ikonia, yes. They are.
[18:33] <Kyle__> Tynach: OK.  I thought you said that before, just wanted to make sure :)    Never tried lvm striping myself...
[18:33] <MadarChodBhosDK> L3top: yes
[18:33] <ikonia> Tynach: I'm not being funny - I'm just checking all is well, so "how do you know", or what are you doing to check/confirm that
[18:33] <ikonia> Tynach: I'm only asking as a lot of people make this sort of mistake
[18:33] <MadarChodBhosDK> oniericpartner-list.distupgrade-------------->deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner #Added by software-center
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Fisher: run the commands at step 5 here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[18:34] <Fisher> ty
[18:34] <prateekp> i was installing eclipse i follwed all the steps given on link http://colinrrobinson.com/technology/install-eclipse-ubuntu/ but at the execution it says an error
[18:34] <L3top> I said is there anything ELSE, meaning other than that MadarChodBhosDK. MadarChodBhosDK: if it were me, I would delete everything in the sources.list.d directory and update.
[18:34] <Kyle__> ikonia: They actually don't need to be marked LVM.  I do it anyway, but that part isn't necesasary.  Usually.
[18:35] <ikonia> Kyle__: it really depends,
[18:35] <prateekp> the error is bash: /opt/eclipse/eclipse: cannot execute binary file
[18:35] <Tynach> ikonia, I understand, this is all troubleshooting :) And, I simply remember in the Alternate installer, because I redid the LVM. I made sure to only use my two LVM partitions; right now just the 200 GB and the 100GB from the 500GB that partially has Windows on it (if you read my Google+ post that I linked).
[18:35] <Kyle__> prateekp: Are you sure you're using the right version?  32bit for 32bit, amd64 for amd64?
[18:36] <ikonia> Tynach: how are you confirming the partition type is set to LBM
[18:36] <ikonia> LVM
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> prateekp: does the file exist and is it executabl
[18:36] <MadarChodBhosDK> L3top: there are two files in that directory each with the same content....I am trying deleting and updating now
[18:36] <prateekp> yes it exist and is executable
[18:36] <prateekp> but nothing happens on double clicking it
[18:36] <domino14> if theres a program that is doing a very bad job of fragmenting memory, can i see the total memory usage of the process with ps aux?
[18:37] <Tynach> ikonia, right now I'm still at the grub rescue> prompt. How would you recommend I confirm? Because right now I'm just going off memory, which I understand is insufficient.
[18:37] <Kyle__> prateekp: Try running file on it.  file /opt/eclipse/eclipse or whatever it is.
[18:37] <L3top> MadarChodBhosDK: also check that cat /etc/apt/sources.list does not contain any PPAs
[18:37] <ikonia> Tynach: I'm guessing based on experience (and I should say this is only a guess) the second disk in your LVM config isn't spinning up fast enough for the volume to start at boot time
[18:37] <domino14> or is that inaccurate? if free -m shows that theres 2 gb of memory left, but it's super fragmented, do i know this info?
[18:37] <L3top> man thats clever ikonia. Wouldn't have occurred to me.
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> prateekp: what is the output of: uname -a; file /opt/eclipse/eclipse
[18:38] <Tynach> ikonia, interesting. It worked for 11.10 though.
[18:38] <ikonia> Tynach: you may want to use a livecd, install lvm and manually assemble the volume group, mount the logical volume and verify it's integrity
[18:38] <escott> domino14, you can access the raw memory map in /proc/PID there might be a tool to measure fragmentation of that
[18:38] <ikonia> Tynach: also verify the grub config
[18:38] <Tynach> ikonia, will do. On that note, how do I verify the grub config?
[18:38] <prateekp> the output of 'file /opt/eclipse/eclipse': ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.0, not stripped
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> domino14: fragmented memory?
[18:38] <ikonia> Tynach: try setting the grub configs root to /dev/vg00/root_lv or what ever it's called
[18:39] <Kyle__> ikonia: Box with lots of fast scsi drives starting staggered?
[18:39] <domino14> escott: free -m shows theres about 17% of memory usage, but my program is crashing because of "out of memory", which makes no sense, right?
[18:39] <andrew_> word?
[18:39] <domino14> ActionParsnip: i dont know, im out of ideas
[18:39] <ikonia> Kyle__: I'm guessing, nothing more, as I have no info to work with
[18:39] <MadarChodBhosDK> L3top: no there are only precise universe multiverse links in /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:39] <domino14> can ram get really fragmented so an allocator cant find contiguous blocks?
[18:39] <Kyle__> ikonia: Ah.  I was wondering where you've experienced that, and that's the only situation I coudl think of.
[18:39] <domino14> am i just pulling that out of somewhere?
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> prateekp: and: uname -a
[18:39] <Kyle__> prateekp: And what does uname -a say?
[18:39] <ikonia> Tynach: look at the grub grub.cfg and make sure it's pointing at vaid devices,
[18:40] <prateekp> Linux papri 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[18:40] <escott> domino14, it would be almost impossible on 64bit. but on 32bit R would do that all the time because it tried to malloc a contiguous array, but could not because its virtual address space is fragmented. usually programs are better about that and give a more accurate error message
[18:40] <Tynach> ikonia, I have the volume group named vg_root and the logical volume named lv_root. Booting into the LiveCD right now.
[18:40] <Kyle__> prateekp: You've got a 32bit kernel, and installed the 64bit version of ecplise.  Download and install the 32bit version of eclipse.
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> domino14: the memory management in the kernel will prevent that
[18:40] <L3top> ok MadarChodBhosDK, do whatever it was you were doing that brought you here to begin with after update is finished
[18:40] <ikonia> Tynach: yhou may want to consider (just a thought) changing the grub root option to /dev/vg_root/lv_root
[18:40] <ikonia> Tynach: that will remove any possability the uuid is wrong
[18:40] <prateekp> ok so does it mean that 32 bit application runs on my OS
[18:41] <prateekp> and one more thing how u get to know that my kernel is 32 bit
[18:41] <Kyle__> prateekp: Yes.  It means only 32bit applications can run.
[18:41] <Kyle__> prateekp: Because it said i686.
[18:41] <MadarChodBhosDK> L3top: ok...
[18:41] <prateekp> and what is for 64 bit
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> Kyle__: thanks, typing on a GT540 is hard with these thumbs
[18:41] <prateekp> ?
[18:41] <Tynach> ikonia, when I was trying to reinstall grub manually, I used the alternate installer to get into a root environment using /dev/vg_root/lv_root. Here is the command I used:
[18:41] <Tynach> grub-install --root-directory=/ /dev/sda
[18:42] <Kyle__> prateekp: The 64bit 86 kernels all say x86_64
[18:42] <zykotick9> prateekp: 64bit is x86_64
[18:42] <Kyle__> ActionParsnip: No problem.  I _hate_ complex typing with my thumbs.
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> prateekp: x86_64
[18:42] <Kyle__> or typing period with them.../
[18:42] <Tynach>  / at the time was the filesystem in /dev/vg_root/lv_root, and I also had previously mounted /dev/sda5 (the 100 MB /boot partition) to /boot.
[18:42]  * L3top resists temptation
[18:43] <ikonia> Tynach: root isn't /dev/sda
[18:43] <Tynach> ikonia, read my line again. --root-directory=/
[18:43] <Tynach> Note the 'slash'.
[18:43] <Tynach> /dev/sda was the device I installed grub to.
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Kyle__: handy on bus journeys :-)
[18:43] <Kyle__> grub supports booting off of an LVM /boot now... will the ubuntu installer let you do it?
[18:44] <ikonia> Kyle__: didn't think it did support that
[18:44] <Kyle__> ActionParsnip: I hear ya.
[18:44] <Tynach> Kyle__, I kept hearing that from people in #debian, but I'm not going to risk it.
[18:44] <Kyle__> ikonia: Grub does, but most distro-installers don't.
[18:44] <Kyle__> Tynach: That's how I found out not to LVM mirror /boot
[18:45] <JD_ML> .
[18:46] <retis> hi,i was trying from my terminal to install sun-jdk by "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-jre " ...command but getting this error...http://paste.ubuntu.com/996248/.......need solution please.
[18:47] <Kyle__> retis: they no longer carry the sun jdk in the repos.
[18:47] <prateekp> what does i386 means
[18:48] <L3top> open-jdk or go to oracle to get it
[18:48] <JD_ML> .
[18:48] <escott> prateekp, 32bit
[18:48] <prateekp> is it 32 bit
[18:48] <prateekp> ok
[18:48] <prateekp> can i run 32 bit on 64 bit
[18:48] <escott> prateekp, yes
[18:48] <tomtiger11> yep
[18:48] <prateekp> k
[18:48] <Kyle__> retis: You need to download the .bin, install it, then update-alternatives for each part of it.  Not the most fun thing in the world, but it's not too hard.
[18:48] <ment0s> prateekp: applications only
[18:49] <prateekp> ment0s: ?
[18:49] <ment0s> prateekp: you can run programs 32bit on 64bit machine but drivers etc have to be 64 bit
[18:49] <prateekp> ok
[18:49] <prateekp> can u give me example of drivers
[18:50] <Tynach> ikonia, what packages for lvm support do I need? Just lvm2?
[18:50] <Kyle__> prateekp: anything that shows up when you type lsmod as root
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Libs, not drivers
[18:50] <ikonia> Tynach: it should pull in all dependencies
[18:50] <ment0s> there are thousand of them :P
[18:50] <Tynach> ikonia, only dependancy is 'watershed', whatever that is.
[18:51] <ikonia> Tynach: I have no idea what that is
[18:51] <Tynach> Well, it's installing.
[18:51] <ment0s> lspci shows you your pci devices attached to computer and lsusb shows you usb devices
[18:51] <hdhzero> hi everyone. I would like to know if exists a smart cd with an ncurses interface or similar
[18:51] <Kyle__> Tynach: I forgot to tell it not to grab updates while installing, so that VM test is still chugging along on the install.
[18:51] <escott> hdhzero, smart cd?
[18:52] <Kyle__> ment0s: and dmidecode shows everything your bios sees.
[18:52] <JD_ML> JD_ML
[18:52] <Tynach> ikonia, Kyle__, I successfully mounted the logical volume. It's working fine.
[18:52] <lund> retis, i used this method http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[18:52] <ikonia> Tynach: ok, look at your lvm tab
[18:52] <ikonia> Tynach: look at it's uuid
[18:52] <ikonia> verify that against the grub config
[18:53] <hdhzero> Just as nautilus has / > home > user > folder, I was wondering if there is something with a cli interface
[18:53] <Tynach> ikonia, what tool do I use to do that?
[18:53] <escott> hdhzero, midnight commander
[18:53] <ikonia> Tynach: blkid
[18:53] <dontknow> could someone have a look at system monitor's process section and tell me if you see "gconfd-2" process?
[18:53] <JD_ML> JD_ML is here
[18:54] <escott> dontknow, yes
[18:54] <lund> dontknow, yes
[18:54] <dontknow> escott, thanks
[18:54] <ment0s> dontknow: I see
[18:54] <dontknow> thanks you all :D
[18:56] <Diddy403> sup sup
[18:57] <Tynach> ikonia, blkid is only showing anything for the root filesystem of the live cd.
[18:57] <Diddy403> quick question before I install Ubuntu 12, can I turn off Unity and use Gnome 3 instead?
[18:57] <Tynach> Ah, there we go. Ran it as root.
[18:57] <dontknow> anyone here using cinnamon?
[18:57] <gridbag> what is the name of the apt-get project for "alsa" ?
[18:57] <ikonia> dontknow: it's not available on ubuntu
[18:57] <L3top> !nounity | Diddy403
[18:58] <dontknow> ikonia, i installed and using right now
[18:58] <Diddy403> ubottu, I love you
[18:58] <ikonia> dontknow: what repo did you pull it from
[18:58] <dontknow> ikonia, wait a sec
[18:58] <Diddy403> last time I ran linux was Debian Sarge, has a lot changed since then?
[18:59] <Tynach> ikonia, I cannot find any partitions or filesystems that match the hex string that grub error'd on.
[18:59] <ikonia> Tynach: ok, so that suggests it's looking for a non-existant device
[18:59] <zeidoz> gridbag: did you use apt-cache to search?  i see a package "alsa-base"
[18:59] <JD_ML> .
[18:59] <Tynach> ikonia, is it possible that it's the left-over grub installation from 11.10 that's actually booting up?
[18:59] <Tynach> And it's not even booting my new installation of grub?
[18:59] <JD_ML> JD_ML
[18:59] <ikonia> Tynach: it's more likley something in the upgrade/post upgrade has changed the uuid and now it's not valid
[19:00] <ikonia> JD_ML: please stop that
[19:00] <Tynach> If so, how would I check for all grub installations on all drives?
[19:00] <L3top> !ot | Diddy403
[19:00] <JD_ML> i'm testing
[19:00] <Tynach> ikonia, but wouldn't a grub-install blahblah and update-grub fix that?
[19:00] <JD_ML> im new here
[19:00] <dontknow> ikonia, "ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable" this one
[19:00] <ikonia> JD_ML: then please stop
[19:00] <ikonia> dontknow: ahh, some random guys PPA, ok, so it's not an ubuntu package
[19:00] <dontknow> ikonia, no no
[19:00] <JD_ML> and i need set my colors
[19:00] <ikonia> JD_ML: ok, well this channel is for ubuntu technical discussion only, so please don't test
[19:01] <dontknow> anyone here can activate ALT+F2 on cinnamon?
[19:01] <JD_ML> so were can i testing. tell me pls
[19:01] <ikonia> JD_ML: #test
[19:01] <Diddy403> !apt-get
[19:01] <ikonia> Tynach: depends on a lot of things, the easy thing to do is update your grub config and see if it makes a difference
[19:01] <xyzzymaze> Greetings all .. sorry if it's been asked, but has it been tough to get updates from the repos?  thanks ..
[19:01] <ment0s>  ok Guys I i'll need a little help with hp all-in-one desktop .. ubuntu 9 runs perfectly on it and no issues noticed but when i upgrade to 12 or 10 version Im getting black screen and its no possible to go terminal by alt+3 etc .., I can only run it with nomodeset option but then I have no acceleration and graphic is so slow. I thought its because of LightDM so I have removed it but still the same on GDM.. also I have insta
[19:02] <Tynach> ikonia, heh. Alright.
[19:02] <ikonia> Tynach: I'm not being lazy, it's just an easier check than working through the whole of the grub setup
[19:02] <JD_ML> i changed my color and i need reset it.
[19:02] <L3top> JD_ML: /join #myveryowntest
[19:03] <lanceio> how do I add another entry into gdm?
[19:04] <JD_ML> #test
[19:04] <Diddy403> Can I use the Wubi installer to do a dual-boot scenario?
[19:04] <Tynach> ikonia, I understand. I tried a grub-install, by the way, and found this peculiar problem: http://pastebin.com/bAtPDVNj
[19:04] <JD_ML> tks everyone
[19:04] <lanceio> Diddy403, yes
[19:04] <Diddy403> thanks lanceio
[19:04] <JD_ML> by. im going to learn more to go back here
[19:04] <lanceio> thats what its used for
[19:05] <ikonia> Tynach: never seen that before, not sure what the reference to flexnet is about
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> Diddy403, it is theoretically a dualboot it may run slower, and will only be a file in windows.
[19:06] <Tynach> ikonia, I know that Maya (3D program) uses a system called FlexLM for DRM. But that was older versions; newer versions don't use it. Is there a way to override that decision and use 'sector 55' anyway?
[19:06] <ikonia> Tynach: flexlm is totally different, don't confuse that
[19:06] <ikonia> Tynach: that's a distributed method
[19:06] <escott> Tynach, you could dd over the mbr including sector 55. that way grub won't find any flexnet data
[19:07] <ikonia> escott: careful this is an lvm locical volume, so don't remove the lvm header
[19:12] <Tynach> ikonia, I 'man update-grub''d, and according to it it's a stub for grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg. So I tried grub-mkconfig -o /media/biglonghexfolderformountedlv/boot/grub/grub.cfg.
[19:12] <Tynach> And I got this error: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[19:13] <escott> Tynach, you should do that from within a chrot
[19:13] <escott> chroot
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: did you chroot?
[19:14] <Tynach> escott, ActionParsnip, I've done chroot a few times before, and it's always been a hassle (and following a guide strictly). My understanding is that if I only chroot, it will not bring /dev and so forth with it.
[19:14] <escott> Tynach, mount --bind /dev /media/chroot/dev
[19:14] <Tynach> escott, I presume I'd have to do that BEFORE I chroot, yes?
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: omgubuntu sticking it to grub is a great grub how to
[19:15] <Tynach> ActionParsnip, link?
[19:15] <escott> Tynach, /media/chroot path wont exist inside the chroot
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Tynach: searching for what I said would have found you that.....
[19:17] <duckx0r> is there a channel specific for wine or should I ask a problem in here?
[19:17] <Dr_Willis_> !wine
[19:18] <Aha2Y> Guys, i want to install openssh-server on my ubuntu. But it seems not to be available :>
[19:18] <duckx0r> thanks Dr_Willis
[19:18] <ikonia> Tynach: you'll need /proc and devfs mounted to contain those devices
[19:18] <ikonia> Tynach: back shortly
[19:19] <ment0s> !cedega
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Aha2Y: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> Aha2Y:  its there.. look again.
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[19:19] <Aha2Y> hmkay.
[19:19] <Aha2Y> ty.
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> !info openssh-server
[19:19] <Aha2Y> May i know what FloodBot# does?
[19:20] <ment0s> kicking ass*s :P
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> eats people that flood.
[19:20] <auronandace> Aha2Y: prevent people flooding the channel
[19:20] <Aha2Y> ah
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> name should be AntiFloodBot. :)
[19:20] <Aha2Y> Indeed :P
[19:20] <Aha2Y> And three as backup? :D
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Aha2Y: stops people spamming the channel with multiline pastes when they don't think
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> netsplits happen.
[19:21] <Aha2Y> ah :)
[19:21] <Aha2Y> Smart :)
[19:21] <ment0s> Thats why you gotta use pastebin for more lines
[19:23] <KomiaPoi1a> hi
[19:23] <KomiaPoi1a> how can i kill X in Ubuntu 10.04 to install nvidia drivers by hand?
[19:23] <KomiaPoi1a> it keeps restarting
[19:23] <ment0s> /etc/init.d/lightdm stop
[19:23] <auronandace> ment0s: 10.04 uses gdm, not lightdm
[19:23] <ment0s> right
[19:23] <escott> ment0s, KomiaPoi1a, sudo service lightdm stop
[19:24] <ment0s> then gdm stop
[19:24] <KomiaPoi1a> aah
[19:24] <KomiaPoi1a> thx
[19:25] <KomiaPoi1a> and how can i keep the nice fonts of the terminal console after installing nvidia drivers? whenever I install nvidia, the fonts in the console become ascii
[19:26] <auronandace> KomiaPoi1a: you should be using the nvidia drivers from the repo (which don't require that you drop to text mode to install them)
[19:26] <_raven> id like to generate a level/spectrum illustration (video) of an audio file. any ideas how to do it for example with the vlc visualization plugins in non-realtime?
[19:27] <ment0s> whereis xorg.conf in 12.04 ?
[19:27] <auronandace> ment0s: not automatically generated
[19:27] <escott> ment0s, for many drivers its not needed
[19:27] <KomiaPoi1a> auronandace: it's an old pc and last time i did that i had issues
[19:27] <auronandace> ment0s: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (if you make it, it will be obeyed)
[19:28] <milaz> hi, everybody!
[19:28] <ment0s> great :), could you just remind me what was the option to specify xorg.conf from different location ?
[19:28] <terafl0ps> _raven, it's a bit of a hack, but I bet you could just use recordMyDesktop to capture a window that has your favorite visualization display running.
[19:29] <sisar> Ctrl+ArrowKey to cycle between tabs in Firefox does not work for me.
[19:29] <sisar> what should i do?
[19:30] <_raven> terafl0ps i know but i need to do it non-realtime because theese files are 2 to 4 hours
[19:30] <sisar> (the shortcut is mentioned on http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Keyboard%20shortcuts )
[19:31] <zykotick9> sisar: try ctrl+TAB
[19:31] <rly> Is there a way to configure Ubuntu such that it doesn't ask me whether or not to restart certain services during a distribution upgrade started via the GUI?
[19:31] <pourquoi> salut
[19:31] <escott> _raven, you might see if gnu octave has some ability to do this
[19:31] <sisar> zykotick9: that works. But any idea why the arrow keys don't work ?
[19:32] <Zally666> howto ubuntu + mobile phone tv serfver
[19:32] <Tynach> ikonia, what is devfs? I can't find it in root.
[19:32] <Zally666> *server
[19:32] <milaz> sisar: that shortcut is for __moving__ tabs, not for cycling through them
[19:32] <milaz> sisar: for cycling, there's CTRL+PgDn or CTRL+PgU[
[19:32] <rly> My upgrade windows says there is about 1 day and one hour (!) remaining.
[19:32] <gpharos> Looking for the mythbuntu IRC channel
[19:33] <sisar> milaz: yeas. right. but still, for moving tabs, the arrow keys don't work
[19:33] <sisar> *yes
[19:33] <auronandace> !mythbuntu | gpharos
[19:33] <milaz> sisar: press Tab until tab caption is in focus
[19:33] <milaz> sisar: then, CTRL+Arrow works
[19:33] <_raven> escott did you already work with octave?
[19:34] <sisar> milaz: oh. Thanks !
[19:34] <sisar> milaz++
[19:34] <milaz> sisar: you are welcome
[19:34] <Enissay> Hi, I just updated my system, and chrome now is asking for upgrading flash... I downloaded it but I dont know how to install it correctly... any help please?
[19:34] <KomiaPoi1a> how do i disable Nouveau kernel driver?
[19:34] <rly> Is there some software which records my desktop and audio, but also actually works (as opposed to recordmydesktop)?
[19:35] <escott> _raven, ive used it before
[19:35] <whiskers75> rly: istanbul?
[19:35] <escott> _raven, but not for this
[19:35] <milaz> KomiaPoi1a: blacklist it and then 'sudo update-initramfs -u'
[19:35] <Tynach> rly, recordmydesktop works fine for me. But you have to configure it.
[19:35] <_raven> escott could you help me how to find out how this could work?
[19:35] <KomiaPoi1a> milaz: how do i blacklist it?
[19:35] <_raven> escott i know nothing about this yet
[19:35] <Conradzz> Is there a way to revert previous updates?
[19:36] <escott> _raven, i honestly have no idea how this would be done, and matlab syntax is a pain so it might not be worth it
[19:36] <milaz> KomiaPoi1a: see /etc/modprobe.d/
[19:36] <milaz> KomiaPoi1a: there, create a file nouveau.conf
[19:36] <rly> Tynach: what parts are you talking about?
[19:37] <ment0s> anyone can help me with that graphic issue?
[19:37] <milaz> KomiaPoi1a: and put there a line 'blacklist nouveau'
[19:37] <rly> Tynach: I am talking about basic things like tearing, etc.
[19:37] <rly> Tynach: i.e., the quality stinks.
[19:37] <rly> !istanbul
[19:37] <milaz> KomiaPoi1a: or, just add that line to blacklist.conf
[19:38] <Tynach> rly, you have to make it record entire frames and so forth.
[19:38] <rly> whiskers75: can you point at a demo video recorded with that?
[19:38] <auronandace> !info istanbul | rly
[19:38] <KomiaPoi1a> milaz: thx
[19:38] <Tynach> rly, by default it won't record the entire frames, so it won't work properly in 3D desktop environments like Unity.
[19:38] <terafl0ps> _raven, have you seen this?  Maybe one of the non-realtime tools would work for you.  http://fourms.wiki.ifi.uio.no/Audio_analysis#Non-realtime_Visualization_Tools
[19:38] <whiskers75> rly: no dont have any.. sry
[19:39] <Tynach> Kyle__, ikonia: I chrooted and so forth, got this error: http://pastebin.com/AdtDeiyH
[19:39] <gpharos> Thank you, but I am trying to setup a Ceton Infinitv tuner using  the latest12.04  Mythbuntu  distro and trying to find an IRC channel for live help
[19:39] <_raven> terafl0ps tnx for the hint ill try that
[19:40] <terafl0ps> _raven, I've never used any of those myself though.
[19:40] <rly> Tynach: I would think that something that is distributed for Ubuntu (which has millions of installations) should you know... work in the default configuration.
[19:40] <milaz> can anybody help me?
[19:41] <milaz> after update to 12.04, i got stuttuttuteringringring video and audio playback
[19:41] <rly> Tynach: Ubuntu shouldn't even distribute such bad applications.
[19:41] <milaz> is there any ideas where should i look at to see what's wrong?
[19:41] <Conradzz> Does anyone have any suggestions on what I can do?  I ran the updates ubuntu asked, and after restarting I get a hard freeze and can't log in
[19:42] <rly> Conradzz: insert LiveCD
[19:42] <Conradzz> and then do what rly?
[19:42] <Tynach> rly, it's not because it's a bad program, it's because it's one of those 'not officially supported, but included' programs. For such programs, you're expected to know how to use the program before downloading it, and if you don't, you can always look online for more information.
[19:43] <milaz> in dmesg, i once got that: CE: hpet increased min_delta_ns to 20113 nsec
[19:43] <rly> Conradzz: I won't hold your hand. Someone else might want to do that.  We aren't buying anything. If you bought official (over the phone) support from canonical, THEN you can complain. Until then, you aren't a consumer.
[19:45] <rly> I can point people in the right direction, but if an OS needs support, they already lost, imho.\
[19:45] <Conradzz> rly, why are you here?
[19:45] <Tynach> rly, I guess that means RedHat and Microsoft both already lost. They both need support.
[19:45] <rly> Tynach: and indeed they did.
[19:45] <milaz> terafl0ps: no, it's real machine
[19:45] <L3top> Which OS do you use that works ootb on absolutely everything? Where can I find this magic?
[19:45] <rly> Tynach: Microsoft is losing big time as we speak.
[19:45] <auronandace> !ot | rly
[19:46] <milaz> terafl0ps: first, i thought that virtualbox kernel modules can be causing that
[19:46] <Tynach> rly, in fact, you could go so far as to say that every OS in existence has lost. EVERY operating system needs support.
[19:46] <milaz> terafl0ps: so, i did a completely clean install onto a clean partition
[19:46] <auronandace> Tynach: stick to support pease
[19:46] <Tynach> Kyle__, ikonia, I've successfully fixed that error. Now, I'm going to have to know how to check my grub configuration to see if it's valid/working.
[19:46] <auronandace> please
[19:46] <Tynach> Sorry auronandace. Back to asking/answering questions.
[19:47] <Conradzz> Was there an update to X-org in the past 2-3 days?
[19:48] <milaz> terafl0ps: then, I ruled out video card drivers
[19:48] <milaz> that bug persists both with nouveau and nvidia
[19:48] <rly> Conradzz: I am fairly sure Ubuntu has some tool that allows you to see which upgrades you applied.
[19:49] <Conradzz> I'm viewing my dpkg.log right now and can see all the updates that were applied rly
[19:49] <john3voltas> greetings
[19:49] <rly> Conradzz: I think there's also some GUI frontend.
[19:49] <milaz> rly: in Ubuntu Software Center, there's History section
[19:49] <Conradzz> ubuntu software center I believe is suppsoe to be it
[19:49] <rly> milaz: which is integrated with dpkg.log, I hope?
[19:49] <Conradzz> ya, but for some reason it won't open
[19:50] <milaz> rly: i didn't check the sources, but that is very likely
[19:50] <Conradzz> I booted recovery partition, dropped into root, mounted filesystem, used startx
[19:50] <Conradzz> so basically I'm in ubuntu now, but with hardly any drivers, etc
[19:50] <rly> milaz: do you think it's reasonable for an upgrade to take >16 hours excluding the time to download?
[19:50] <john3voltas> i'm having problems with casper. i'm trying live-media=/dev/sda1 live-media-path=ubuntu and my ubuntu doesn't boot.
[19:51] <milaz> rly: absolutely not
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> rly, depends on your net speed.
[19:51] <john3voltas> took this info from http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man7/casper.7.html
[19:51] <rly> wilee-nilee: no, it does not.
[19:51] <rly> wilee-nilee: it would help if you would _read_.
[19:51] <Tynach> Ok, I looked through the grub config and I cannot for the life of me find any problems, or anywhere that it's looking for the UUID that it's choking on.
[19:51] <rly> milaz: well, that's the time it takes.
[19:51] <milaz> rly: why?
[19:51] <Tynach> So, anyone: is there a way to list all devices that have Grub installed on them? I would like to remove any other grub installations.
[19:51] <milaz> a lot of packages?
[19:51] <rly> milaz: because there is no ssd in this device.\
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> rly, if you had a dialup that was really slow it could take as long as it takes.
[19:52] <milaz> or some particular package?
[19:52] <rly> wilee-nilee: please take my advice.
[19:52] <TomatoKetchup> wilee-nilee, , he said excluding time to download
[19:52] <terafl0ps> milaz, that message about the unstable clock source rang a bell because I once had to configure a kernel to use acpi instead of the  programmable interrupt timer (pit) because my VM's always had time running too fast inside them.
[19:52] <rly> milaz: 3200 packages
[19:52] <terafl0ps> It was causing a number of programs to get confused.
[19:52] <rly> milaz: the basic problem is that is does way too many diskseeks, I think.
[19:53] <krababbel> rly: imagine doing it on floppies
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> TomatoKetchup, ah, lol what a friendly response from rly just makes you want to help. :)
[19:53] <milaz> terafl0ps: can you please give me some pointers how to do that?
[19:53] <rly> krababbel: I can also imagine doing it on punch cards. Can you be even more off-topic?
[19:53] <bugz__> i need help about mon0
[19:53] <milaz> terafl0ps: I can try that way to see if that works
[19:54] <milaz> rly: are you sure your HDD is not dying?
[19:54] <bugz__> i need help about mon0
[19:54] <terafl0ps> I really have no idea if that will help or not, but I just passed in a boot flag to do it in grub, like this: http://communities.vmware.com/thread/120931
[19:54] <milaz> rly: i had something similar before i lost my zeroth sector on HDD along with other valuable information
[19:54] <rly> milaz: I cannot be sure, but a 5400rpm disk simply isn't that fast.
[19:55] <bugz__> hhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllpppppppppppppppp
[19:55] <rly> milaz: it's not a very large disk and as such has low cache and low-data density.
[19:55] <bugz__> i need help about mon0
[19:55] <rly> milaz: it's really just Ubuntu which is not efficient.
[19:55] <rly> milaz: the kernel is efficient, but the package management is not.
[19:56] <bugz__> can anyone help
[19:56] <bugz__> plz
[19:56] <OerHeks> bugz__, just ask your question, wait and see
[19:56] <milaz> rly: curiously< i'm having problem with kernel right now :)
[19:56] <Tynach> rly, you don't know what you're talking about, so if you aren't asking an Ubuntu related support question, you may not want to keep talking.
[19:56] <rly> Tynach: uhm, yes, I do know what I am talking about.\
[19:57] <rly> Tynach: who are you to say that I don't?
[19:57] <Tynach> I'm taking this to private message, because it's off topic to the channel.
[19:57] <bugz__> k my computer i have an error with mon0 on the command prompt and i am 13 and confused wat is wrong
[19:58] <Tynach> bugz__, what are you doing when you get the error?
[19:58] <milaz> terafl0ps: so, the flag was 'clocksource=acpi_pm' ?
[19:59] <bugz__> trying to get aircrack to work for my cousin
[19:59] <john3voltas> anyone can help me with my casper problem?
[19:59] <terafl0ps> milaz, you may want to double check that it's still called acpi_pm because I think Ubuntu runs a newer kernel than in that post, but yes.
[20:00] <milaz> terafl0ps: thank you
[20:00] <milaz> i'll try this
[20:00] <OerHeks> bugz__, i don't know about aircrack, good luck
[20:01] <bugz__> k
[20:01] <Conradzz> Does anyone know how I start my wireless card while I'm in startx?
[20:01] <OerHeks> * must be someone who does
[20:01] <bugz__> well wat about mon0 wat is that spicefically
[20:01] <terafl0ps> Conraddz, do you use the network manager in gnome?
[20:02] <Conradzz> normally when I start linux my drivers are loaded and I don't have to mess with my wifi
[20:03] <Conradzz> but with me having to boot into linux with startx, it seems to have not loaded it
[20:03] <pzn> I'm developing a gtk app to run in ubuntu, in a device with 800x480 screen size. I want to preview how it appearence will be. how can I set my notebook to have a 800x480 screen? this size is not available in the monitor configuration.
[20:04] <auronandace> Conradzz: sudo service gdm restart
[20:04] <milaz> pzn: why won't you just set the size of your window to 800x480?
[20:04] <auronandace> Conradzz: remember you stopped it earlier?
[20:04] <Conradzz> unrcognized service auronandace, no I didn't
[20:04] <pzn> milaz, all app windows work in "fullscreen" mode
[20:05] <auronandace> Conradzz: so you weren't the one trying to install nvidia drivers from commandline?
[20:05] <milaz> pzn: but, when debugging, you can set them to that size, won't you?
[20:05] <Conradzz> nope auronandace
[20:05] <bugz__> does anyone know what mon0 specificaly
[20:06] <terafl0ps> Does your wifi driver show up in the output from "lsmod"
[20:06] <terafl0ps> ?
[20:06] <pzn> milaz, not so easy to do... fullscreen windows have different toolboxes/menus behaviour
[20:06] <auronandace> Conradzz: ah, sorry, if you are using 11.10 or higher: sudo service lightdm restart
[20:06] <milaz> bugz__: it probably might help if you exactly quote the whole error message
[20:06] <rly> It turns out that Tynach is some 21 guy still in college without even a CS degree. I advice anyone to not enter any discussion with him.
[20:06] <Conradzz> the second I start up lightdm, I'll freeze auronandace
[20:06] <bugz__> if so plz k
[20:06] <milaz> pzn: oh, i see
[20:06] <auronandace> Conradzz: odd
[20:07] <pzn> milaz, if I install ubuntu inside a virtualbox, could I set the screensize to 800x480? does it make some difference between a real video card and a virtualbox video card?
[20:07] <Tynach> rly, that's important because..?
[20:08] <auronandace> rly, Tynach: please no personal attacks
[20:08] <milaz> pzn: I'd check it, but I'm working now on the system without virtualbox, trying to isolate one nasty bug :)
[20:09] <bond_> hi
[20:09] <chris_> hey
[20:09] <milaz> pzn: but you surely will have your program in full-screen mode
[20:09] <bond_> help hw to coneect to gmail?????????
[20:09] <milaz> pzn: while it will be in virtualbox window
[20:09] <pzn> milaz, then I'll try it. thanks!
[20:09] <milaz> pzn: you are welcome
[20:10] <rly> auronandace: Tynach started it, check log.
[20:10] <milaz> pzn: just out of curiosity, why the window must be exactly 800x480?
[20:10] <L3top> Why is rly still here?
[20:10] <milaz> pzn: do you plan to support another screen resolutions?
[20:10] <rly> auronandace: I already put him on my ignore list and as such I won't see what nonsense he has to say anyway.
[20:10] <auronandace> rly: i didn't ask who started, i ask you both to stop
[20:10] <pzn> milaz, because it is a touchscreen device... just 800x480 is available
[20:10] <bond_> how to connect gamil with irssi
[20:10] <Tynach> Yeah, it is true, I'm the one that said he didn't know what he was talking about. I'll admit to that, and I probably shouldn't have.
[20:11] <milaz> pzn: i mean, don't you plan to run it on different devices?
[20:11] <Tynach> shouldn't have said that, to be more exact.
[20:11] <Guest39420> linux deepin is awsome
[20:11] <Gnea> bond_: what's gamil?
[20:12] <bond_> gmail........
[20:12] <pzn> milaz, no, it is a dedicated equipment for lab purposes. I just don't have it with me right now... on monday I can run on the real device. today I'll have to develop with my notebook only :-)
[20:12] <rly> L3top: why are you still here?
[20:12] <Gnea> bond_: irssi is an irc client, not an email client
[20:12] <Conradzz> Anyone know how I start my wireless adapter from terminal?
[20:12] <milaz> pzn: i see :) good luck to you
[20:13] <freshone0> i want to format my hard disk it is 500 gb with 499 gb as one part and 1.1 gb as swap how to doit
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> Conradzz:  with the various iw* commands if its properly seen by the kernel
[20:13] <bond_> i mean gtalk to irssi   .....i m new
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  use gparted and arange it how you like.
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  or use 'fdisk' or 'cfdisk'
[20:13] <freshone0> i tried disk utility but it said that a partition is busy
[20:13] <L3top> The question was not aimed at you. Do you have a support question rly?
[20:14] <terafl0ps> Conraddz, also don't forget to switch on the card if this is a laptop with a physical switch for the card.   They are ruining my experience in #ubuntu.
[20:14] <freshone0> i mean i wanna delete all data
[20:14] <Conradzz> terafl0ops it turns out I needed the command ifconfig wlan0 up
[20:15] <Gnea> bond_: you can't, gtalk uses xml and irc is plaintext
[20:15] <L3top> rly  /part
[20:15] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  unmount the fileystems in use.. use gparted to delete the filesystems, apply changes, done. then remake them how you want.
[20:15] <rly> freshone0: secure deletion?
[20:15] <freshone0> i dont want to loose the ubuntu 12.04 i newly installed
[20:15] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  so you have 1 or 2 hard drives?
[20:15] <freshone0> 1
[20:15] <bond_> ok  thanks
[20:15] <Gnea> bond_: wait
[20:15] <Gnea> bond_: I may be mistaken...
[20:15] <bond_> wat?
[20:16] <freshone0> it says i cannot unmount the partition
[20:16] <freshone0> as iam not the root
[20:16] <Gnea> bond_: yes, you can do gtalk with irssi. sorry, my bad: https://gist.github.com/709136
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  so... you need to clarify what it is you want to do exactly.   you just asked how to format the hard disk.. when aparently you mean you want to 'resize the filesystems'
[20:16] <rly> bond_: you could if you would write some addon to irssi (or use one written by someone else)
[20:16] <pzn> milaz, tks
[20:16] <Gnea> rly: done. :)
[20:16] <freshone0> i dont want to resize i just want to delete all files and data except for the operating system
[20:17] <bond_> okkk name some addon
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  now thats somthign differnt you just asked how to do. ;) So.. HOW is the disk partioned now?
[20:17] <Gnea> bond_: I just gave you the code
[20:17] <bond_> tnks gnea
[20:17] <L3top> freshone0: why wouldn't you just do a fresh install?
[20:17] <Gnea> cheers
[20:17] <freshone0> 499 and 1.1
[20:17] <freshone0> how does one do it
[20:17] <Gnea> freshone0: then it would be 498.9 and 1.1
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  so.. you want it how exactly? and how is it now?
[20:18] <Gnea> freshone0: also, how much RAM do you have?
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  a pastebin of 'sudo fdisk -l' output may help clarify things also.
[20:18] <OerHeks> freshone0, use a live cd, so the HDD is not mounted and you are free to do as you want
[20:19] <pzn> freshone0, swap can run on partitions and also on filesystems (filesystems swap performance is a little slower than partition swaps). try a filesystem partition.  dd if=/dev/zero of=/var/swapfile bs=1M count=1024; mkswap /var/swapfile; chmod 0 /var/swapfile; then put "/var/swapfile" on /etc/fstab
[20:20] <Gnea> !fstab | freshone0
[20:21] <freshone0> prasad@DIMAC-X:~$ 'sudo fdisk -l'
[20:21] <freshone0> sudo fdisk -l: command not found
[20:21] <freshone0> prasad@DIMAC-X:~$ 'sudo fdisk -l
[20:21] <freshone0> >
[20:21] <freshone0> >
[20:21] <FloodBot1> freshone0: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:22] <Tynach> Does anybody know how to list the devices that have grub on the MBR?
[20:22] <Dr_Willis> err.. bash basics.. you dont put quotes around commands.. normally
[20:22] <Tynach> Or how to check a device to see if grub is on its MBR?
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> the quotes were to show you the whole command...
[20:23] <Tynach> Dr_Willis, unless you're using those backquotes, and you want the output of one command to be part of your command.
[20:23] <Tynach> But that's nitpicking.
[20:23] <freshone0> how to delete all files but retain th ububtu version keeping the same partitions i have as of now
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> Its clearer to use $(command)  then `command` ;)
[20:23] <freshone0> how
[20:24] <Tynach> Huh, I didn't know about $(command). I'll have to try that out.
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  just find the files and delete them...
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> Tynach:  its a little differnt then ` `  but i cant recall the details
[20:24] <brightspark> freshone0, it might actually be easier to wipe the disk completely and reinstall if you want nothing more than the OS present
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> freshone0:  delete all of what files exactly? the users home dirs?
[20:24] <Gnea> freshone0: backup your data
[20:25] <Gnea> !backup | freshone0
[20:25] <freshone0> in a harddisk drive
[20:25] <freshone0> the back up?
[20:25] <freshone0> external hdd the back up?
[20:25] <Gnea> freshone0: see the URLs that ubottu references
[20:26] <shawn186> Howdy
[20:26] <freshone0> ok
[20:26] <shawn186> is ubuntu 10.04 LTS still available?
[20:26] <auronandace> shawn186: indeed
[20:26] <Gnea> shawn186: should be
[20:26] <shawn186> oh good
[20:26] <mssssm> Do I have to start my kernel with the profile option for ureadahead to properly profile?
[20:26] <shawn186> i am having a bit of touble looking for the desktop versoin
[20:26] <shawn186> *version
[20:27] <OerHeks> shawn186, you can go directly to 10.04.4 > http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[20:27] <auronandace> shawn186: any reason you need 10.04 and can't use 12.04?
[20:28] <shawn186> yes
[20:28] <Outro> hi, does anyone programing with java?
[20:28] <freshone0> ok another thing the smart data says that the airflow temp is 65 c  and is failing whta to do to correct it
[20:28] <Tynach> Outro, yes I program in Java, but this is not the appropriate channel.
[20:28] <shawn186> 12.04 i just tried on my old pentium 4 computer is very slow, barely usable
[20:28] <Gnea> shawn186: do you want CD or DVD?
[20:28] <guntbert> Outro: this channel is for ubuntu support, not for programming
[20:28] <auronandace> !lubuntu | shawn186
[20:28] <shawn186> whereareas i like an older interface
[20:28] <shawn186> oh nice
[20:29] <shawn186> i am also using lili for booting off of usb
[20:29] <Outro> Tynach, can i private you?
[20:29] <Gnea> shawn186: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/
[20:29] <freshone0> i cannot unmount 499 patiotion as iam not the root
[20:29] <Tynach> Outro, of course.
[20:29] <freshone0> what is root
[20:29] <shawn186> but, instead of making a usb installer, is it possible to install it onto a 2 GB flash drive?
[20:29] <Gnea> freshone0: root is /
[20:29] <Conradzz> Yes, got my wireless up!
[20:29] <Gnea> freshone0: you have to use a livecd
[20:29] <freshone0> what is live cd
[20:29] <Gnea> !usb | shawn186
[20:30] <Gnea> !livecd | freshone0
[20:30] <Conradzz> So, now I'm just going to downgrade everything I upgraded
[20:30] <OerHeks> freshone0, just the ubuntu iso, it has install & live modus
[20:30] <shawn186> persistant?
[20:30] <freshone0> where will i find it i just upgraded to 12.04
[20:31] <Gnea> shawn186: yeah, as if you were installing to a HDD
[20:31] <shawn186> oh thats what i'm looking for :P
[20:31] <Gnea> shawn186: awesome
[20:32] <shawn186> but..i don't have linux on this laptop
[20:32] <freshone0> is there a way to delete all file from the home folder through the terminal
[20:32] <lionofgod> Hello, am running ubuntu 12.04, my headset is working very weird... the right ear works but not the left, but when I change the balance in soundsettings my other ear works
[20:32] <lionofgod> If i change volume then i have to change balance again
[20:32] <freshone0> pls help
[20:32] <lionofgod> How do i fix my sound?
[20:34] <freshone0> is there a way to delete all the files from the home folder
[20:34] <terafl0ps> lionofgod, have you tried equalizing the volume of your channels in alsamixer?
[20:34] <rly> The wonderful Unity system has crashed. How do I restart it? It seems that only the window manager crashed.
[20:34] <Gnea> freshone0: why do you need to do that?
[20:34] <Tynach> rly, Unity works as a compiz plugin. To restart it, run compiz --replace.
[20:34] <auronandace> rly: if just the window manager then: compiz --replace
[20:34] <freshone0> so that i can put new data i have got on an external hard disk
[20:35] <lionofgod> terafl0ps: Howdo i do that?
[20:35] <freshone0> into the home folder
[20:35] <Gnea> freshone0: that makes no sense. why would you need to delete it?
[20:35] <GeekSquid> Tynach: that plugin is activated in compizconfig-settings-manager
[20:35] <rly> auronandace: that gets me an API mismatch with a segfault.
[20:35] <terafl0ps> From a command line, type "alsamixer"
[20:35] <rly> auronandace: so much for 'continuing to use the computer during an upgrade'
[20:35] <Tynach> GeekSquid, I know that, I wasn't asking the question.
[20:35] <jaldhar> Hi.  Anyone using eclipse under 12.04?  (Kubuntu actually but I don't think it makes a difference in this case.)
[20:36] <terafl0ps> You'll get different bars for the volume of all your devices.
[20:36] <jaldhar> Since I upgraded from 11.10 it doesn't find my plugins anymore.
[20:36] <jaldhar> What's up with that?
[20:36] <Gnea> I guess he didn't want to explain.
[20:36] <auronandace> rly: i don't do upgrades, i fresh install, less hassle
[20:36] <Gnea> or maybe I misunderstood
[20:36] <shawn186> aww http://rudd-o.com/new-projects/portablelinux
[20:36] <compdoc> upgrades and updates are so slow today. someone attacking ubuntu's servers?
[20:36] <auronandace> rly: also a whole lot quicker too
[20:37] <rly> auronandace: sure, I can imagine that, but it's not good advertisement for Ubuntu.
[20:37] <shawn186> why is it down?
[20:37] <jaldhar> compdoc: I noticed that too.
[20:37] <OerHeks> compdoc, changing mirror can help
[20:37] <rly> auronandace: 'reinstalling a system' is a concept from the '90s.
[20:38] <Dr_Willis> i find windows also works best with reinstalls...
[20:38] <lionofgod> terafl0p: played aroundw ith abrs while some sound was playing... didnt work
[20:38] <ubukou> Quick Question .. any ideas where can i chat about android? like Roms and Hacks?
[20:38] <shawn186> Dr_Willis I do too :D
[20:38] <terafl0ps> lionofgod, each bar should be flat at the top, but pressing "E" or "W" on the keyboard increases your left and right volume respectively.
[20:38] <Dr_Willis> compdoc:  servers been slow for liek 3 days.
[20:39] <jaldhar> uboku: #cyanogenmod is one place.
[20:39] <jaldhar> ubukou:  #cyanogenmod is one place.
[20:39] <aquishix> Has anyone ever encountered issues with 2TB drives?
[20:39] <ubukou> jaldhar, thanks that makes sense
[20:39] <Tynach> Asking on #grub has gotten me no responses. Anyone know how to check to see if a drive has Grub in it's MBR, or check and see what drives have grub in their MBRs?
[20:39] <Dr_Willis> aquishix:  thats a bit.. vague.
[20:40] <aquishix> showing errors that look like hardware errors but really aren't
[20:40] <Conradzz> so freaking stupid, I literally have to downgrade every file I updated in the past 3 days
[20:40] <lionofgod> terafl0pL is their a way to reset all sound settings, i already tried eleting .pulse folder
[20:40] <aquishix> during installation, for instance
[20:40] <ubukou> jaldhar, #cyanogenmod :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[20:40] <Dr_Willis> Tynach:  you could use dd/cat to look at the firt 512bytes I think.
[20:40] <escott> Tynach, the boot info script
[20:40] <aquishix> when I flip to a console with alt-fX and run fdisk /dev/sda, it gives me a warning that the logical sector size, block size or similar quantity was smaller or larger than the other one
[20:40] <aquishix> but the system was working correctly for a while
[20:41] <auronandace> !register | ubukou
[20:41] <Dr_Willis> aquishix:  you can partion drives in.. unusual ways..  if its a warning.. then it shouldent be fatal
[20:41] <terafl0ps> I'm not sure of a way to reset all of the sound settings.
[20:41] <Tynach> escott, where do I find it, and how do I use it? Dr_Willis, how do I do that on a LiveCD?
[20:41] <escott> Tynach, you can download it form sourceforge
[20:41] <aquishix> Dr_Willis: Well, I'm guessing it's a hardware or BIOS issue, because now installation hangs utterly when trying to examine the disks
[20:42] <shawn186> here we go, this looks usefull http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/14912/create-a-persistent-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive/
[20:42] <ubukou> auronandace, thanks a lot.. weird i never had to do that till now..
[20:42] <aquishix> I guess I was asking about DMA modes or something
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> aquishix:  if theres no imporntant data on it.. id delte the paritons if you can. and let the installer remake them
[20:42] <aquishix> that's external to hardware AND OS, maybe?
[20:42] <aquishix> I'm trying to ignore the reality that I probably have a bad drive on my hands =(
[20:42] <auronandace> ubukou: depends which channels you visit
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> aquishix:  i have several bad drives i need to return.
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> night all
[20:42] <aquishix> Dr_Willis: Right.  I recovered what I could from it and tried to do that, but now it's just hanging on install, period
[20:43] <lionofgod> terafl0ps: I was able to do balance it with q and e, left is at 50 and right is at 10
[20:43] <ubukou> auronandace, cool .. /nick ubukou seems to not work .. i ll join #freenode and ask (?)
[20:43] <lionofgod> terafl0ps: how do i fix the ratio so its equal?
[20:43] <auronandace> ubukou: yeah, #freenode is the place to ask
[20:44] <remlabm> i am having an issue with Ubuntu and Eclipse. For some reason, when i search for updates, ex: marketplace, php, nothing shows up in the box below. Also when creating a new project i dont have any of the default perspectives. I have uninstalled+purged all eclipse settings but yet cannot get it to work. any ideas?
[20:44] <terafl0ps> I normally just max out the volume with the up arrow key and then bring it back down.
[20:45] <alankila> remlabm: maybe you installed the ubuntu repo eclipse. afaik they break the update functionality and marketplace to make it not update itself or something such
[20:45] <terafl0ps> That should equalize the channels.
[20:45] <alankila> I suggest just getting the eclipse as a .tar.gz and then launching it from its directory
[20:45] <remlabm> alankila: is there another repo i can grab it from? the eclipse PPA says it hasnt been updated since 2009
[20:45] <alankila> remlabm: eclipse.com :-p
[20:45] <remlabm> ha, ok
[20:45] <remlabm> didnt think of that
[20:46] <alankila> or was it eclipse.org. Anyway
[20:46] <lionofgod> terafl0ps: No I mean, when my left ehadphone is at 50 and my right is at 10, then the sound is equal, why?
[20:46] <ubukou> auronandace, i got what i needed over there, thanks again for the time
[20:46] <auronandace> ubukou: no worries :)
[20:46] <alankila> eclipse is very neat software in that the directory is perfectly self-contained, there's no installation to think about. I just leave it on desktop and fire it up from there
[20:47] <terafl0ps> Ah, I'm not sure why that is happening.  I was hoping it was unequal in alsamixer when you first opened it up and equalizing it there would fix it.
[20:48] <lionofgod> terafl0ps: is their a better place I can ask #pulseaudio wont respond to my question
[20:48] <terafl0ps> Is the sound unequal in every application?
[20:48] <lionofgod> Yes
[20:49] <jaldhar> alankila: I'll consider that but the neat freak in me likes to have everything in .debs as far as possible.  And it used to work, its just the upgrade that seems to have borked it.
[20:49] <Tynach> XD I fixed my problem, almost. I was installing grub to the wrong hard drive, and of course it wasn't booting from the one I DID install grub to. So I fixed that, but I didn't have /boot mounted properly, so grub now only shows Windows XD
[20:49] <Tynach> So, at least now I have a working computer.
[20:50] <terafl0ps> I'm  (obviously) not the only person around here.  Stick around in the channel.  Someone else may have some other ideas.
[20:50] <lionofgod> terafl0ps: yes all applicatios have unbalanced sound
[20:51] <ubukou> auronandace, social standards are so many times missing from some channels.. its good to be nice to people helps make linux communities better.
[20:51] <terafl0ps> There are definitely some issues with sound in this release.  I had to use alsamixer to get audio working in my headphones this morning because plugging in headphones was cutting off all audio completely.
[20:51] <ubukou> auronandace, hope you understand what im talking about, my english are not so good.
[20:51] <lionofgod> terafl0ps: Do you know of any other place where I can ask for help?
[20:52] <auronandace> ubukou: your english is better than many native speakers
[20:52] <alankila> jaldhar: I personally view debs as evil, mostly because I'd like things to just come in separate directories with no package manager required, or at most very simple packaging manager required...
[20:53] <terafl0ps> I would have though pulseaudio would have been a good place to ask too.  I sometimes helps to post in the forums too if the IRC channel is really quiet.
[20:54] <lionofgod> terafl0ps: Okay, guess I will post in Ubuntu forums
[20:55] <remlabm> alankila: worked, thanks!
[20:56] <alankila> remlabm: yeh, this is one of the places where distros just do a disservice to its package users
[20:56] <alankila> the packaged result is worse than the original which needed no packaging in the first place
[20:57] <alankila> eclipse was held back for _years_ because gcj could not build a non-broken eclipse. This was when java itself had been gpl for years
[20:57] <milaz> terafl0ps: sadly, i have to rule out timers as the reason for stuttering audio/video playback
[20:57] <alankila> not a shining moment for debian. Since then, it's been generally broken/unusable, laying in wait like a trap for the unwary
[20:58] <milaz> i tried three of them, hpet, tsc, acpi_pm, and the bug is still there
[20:58] <atdiehm> is there a preferred way of going from ubuntu to xubuntu? when I upgraded one of the machines, going from fedora 15 to ubuntu 12.04 makes is almost unusably slow, so I wanted to try xubuntu, hoping to speed things up
[20:58] <milaz> maybe there is another thing to try?
[20:58] <shawn186> why is the download server on ubuntu.com so slow?
[20:58] <terafl0ps> milaz, wow.  This is the third issue with sound I've dealt with this afternoon.
[20:59] <milaz> terafl0ps: third one today? wow!
[20:59] <shawn186> it says 1 day left to download 694 MBs
[21:00] <terafl0ps> This morning my headphones were cutting off all audio.  I found a workaround for that with alsamixer.
[21:00] <shawn186> terafl0ps i had that problem on this IDT audio integrated laptop, when i tried installing 10.04 on it
[21:01] <terafl0ps> lionofgod, (still in-channel I think) had unbalanced audio in his headphones, and I found another alsamixer workaround but he had to have his left at 10% and his right at 50% t get equal audio.
[21:01] <stroyan> shawn186: mtr of us.archive.ubuntu.com shows all the IP addresses lead to london right now.  That doesn't seem normal.
[21:01] <terafl0ps> and then there's you're stuttering issue, milaz
[21:01] <lionofgod> tatrafl0ps: Hey, left at 50% and right at 10
[21:01] <Artemis3> atdiehm, the preferred way would be to install from zero, but you could try psychocats guides: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu
[21:01] <terafl0ps> whoops reversed :P
[21:02] <milaz> terafl0ps: and what was the second one?
[21:02] <milaz> :)
[21:02] <terafl0ps> lionofgod was the second one.
[21:02] <terafl0ps> My own with the headphones was the first one.
[21:02] <milaz> oh, i see
[21:03] <An_Ony_Moose> I want to generate a simple video clip contains the digits mm:ss (showing the time into the video) in the bottom right corner of the video on a transparent background. How would I best do this?
[21:03] <milaz> terafl0ps: maybe mine is also alsa-related?
[21:05] <milaz> terafl0ps: i noticed that sound in video gets clicking obertones before stuttering begins, and then it stutters
[21:06] <milaz> and also these obertones go away if I select another output device for a second, and then select my 'Analog Output' back
[21:06] <kemal> 12.04: from Unity to Gnome, how ??
[21:06] <terafl0ps> milaz, It might be interesting to test with the previous version of pulseaudio assuming that was upgraded in 12.04.
[21:07] <milaz> terafl0ps: I'm willing to test that
[21:07] <milaz> terafl0ps: is there any way to downgrade the package?
[21:07] <auronandace> !gnome3 | kemal
[21:08] <ejcweb> I've installed a couple of programs today (using apt-get) that I want to remove. Some of the packages installed some extra dependencies too. Is there an easy way to do this? (ie. roll back packages by x hours, or something)
[21:08] <milaz> ejcweb: sudo apt-get remove ...
[21:08] <ejcweb> If I do a simple apt-get uninstall packagename it only frees a matter of KB which surprises me since when I installed it it was MBs.
[21:08] <milaz> ejcweb: and then sudo at-get autoremove
[21:08] <terafl0ps> I'm not great at using apt.  I would probably just remove it and install the necessary .debs with dpkg, but I suspect there is a cleaner way.
[21:08] <milaz> ejcweb: and downloaded packages remain in /var/cache/apt
[21:09] <ejcweb> milaz: I think autoremove may do  the job
[21:09] <kemal> Thanks
[21:09] <milaz> terafl0ps: i'll try to figure that out
[21:10] <milaz> terafl0ps: what i'm afraid of is that there's no previous version for pulseaudio for 12.04
[21:11] <unspin> i've been having a really strange problem with 12.04 on a few of my machines
[21:11] <mikubuntu> how do i tell what version of gnome is installed using terminal?
[21:11] <unspin> when i click on a window, it doesn't shift focus to that window
[21:11] <unspin> i can't drag it
[21:11] <unspin> or highlight anything
[21:11] <unspin> has anyone seen this before?
[21:13] <terafl0ps> milaz, I had the same thought.
[21:13] <zykotick9> mikubuntu: (assuming gnome3 default) "apt-cache policy gnome-shell" perhaps
[21:14] <mikubuntu> zykotick9: k, i'll try thanks
[21:14] <unspin> it happens with unity and gnome-classic
[21:14] <atdiehm> Artemis3, I have no trouble doing a fresh install if that's what's best.  is Xubuntu generally the fastest? or maybe Lubuntu?
[21:14] <docmur> Two questions, 1) In my browsers, the middle scroll wheel is inverted and it's annoying as hell, how can I change that, it's normal everywhere else.  Second is there a high resolution verison of time?  Something less then 1 milli
[21:16] <albech> where do i add scripts that i want started at login time?
[21:17] <shawn186> does unetbootin install to a usb flash drive permanently?
[21:18] <terafl0ps> Milaz, since I run ubuntu on my work laptop, I often just wait for a patch assuming that the problem is only just an annoyance.  For something like that, I might be tempted to look up what pulseaudio version you were running before the upgrade, build it from source, and then point your existing  pulseaudio init script to the version you built.
[21:18] <e2b04836> shawn186: no
[21:18] <auronandace> albech: type: startup in unity dash
[21:18] <shawn186> h :/
[21:19] <shawn186> oh
[21:19] <terafl0ps> But that means if they ever fix it, you have to undo all of that to go back to using the version managed by apt.
[21:19] <albech> auronandace, isnt there just some file where i can add it like rc.local?
[21:19] <shawn186> what is unetbootin's purpose?
[21:19] <auronandace> !upstart | albech
[21:19] <milaz> terafl0ps: thanks, that is a way to do that
[21:20] <Jordan_U> shawn186: It allows you to boot Ubuntu's installer, which you can then use to perform a real installation of Ubuntu to any drive (including an external USB drive).
[21:20] <milaz> terafl0ps: but i think i just downgrade to 10.11 for the time being ;)
[21:20] <e2b04836> shawn186: to create bootable usb drives from which you can install linux
[21:20] <albech> auronandace, when was startup added to ubuntu? was it 10.10 or 10.04?
[21:20] <terafl0ps> 10.11?
[21:20] <milaz> terafl0ps: 11.10
[21:20] <terafl0ps> Weren't you running 11.x before?
[21:20] <milaz> lol
[21:20] <terafl0ps> oh, ok
[21:21] <terafl0ps> haha
[21:21] <auronandace> albech: no idea when it was added sorry
[21:21] <shawn186> oh, is installing ubuntu directly to usb from windows not possible?
[21:21] <albech> auronandace, this is on a 10.04 box
[21:22] <auronandace> albech: 10.04 uses upstart
[21:22] <Jordan_U> shawn186: Correct, that is not possible. Is that a problem for you?
[21:22] <albech> auronandace, thanks
[21:22] <terafl0ps> shawn186, unetbootin puts a bootable version of the Ubuntu livecd (or most Linux livecds really) on to your USB stick.
[21:22] <auronandace> albech: no worries :)
[21:23] <terafl0ps> It can do this from Windows.
[21:23] <e2b04836> shawn186: i believe its possible but i have no idea why you'd want to do that
[21:23] <terafl0ps> There is a unetbootin version for both Windows and Linux.
[21:23] <milaz> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[21:23] <e2b04836> terafl0ps: he wants to actually install ubuntu on a usb drive
[21:25] <terafl0ps> e2b04836, doesn't the livecd kind of do this?  If you deploy a livecd to a USB stick and choose the "Try Ubuntu" option it lets you run Ubuntu from the USB stick.
[21:25] <DarwinSurvivor> shawn186: reasons aside, do you have 2 usb drives? you could boot off one, then use it to install onto the other one...
[21:25] <shawn186> e2b04836 you don't eh?
[21:26] <terafl0ps> There is an option in unetbootin to allocate a certain amount of USB disk space for persistent file storage too as I recall.
[21:26] <shawn186> never wanted to boot a supporteds computer from usb, any time or anywhere
[21:26] <shawn186> ?
[21:26] <Jordan_U> terafl0ps: But that's not a full installation, among other things it can't be properly updated.
[21:26] <shawn186> usb is like a super fast harddrive
[21:26] <maheanuu> I don't really know where to ask this question, so I hope that someone here will either answer my question or point me in the rite direction where I can possibly find an answer.  I have converted flac and mp3 files to .wav files but they wont play on the cd player I have and I would like to convert them to CDA files using K3b if at all possible any ideas on this would be appreciated
[21:26] <DarwinSurvivor> shawn186: not unless you have usb3 it isn't!
[21:27] <milaz> shawn186: you mean, super-slow harddrive
[21:27] <e2b04836> shawn186: usb sticks are not as fast as a hardrive and having an operating system on one would decrease its lifespan considerably
[21:27] <DarwinSurvivor> shawn186: running ubuntu off a usb is slow, because usb2.0 (the most common) is absolutely attrocious even compared the slowest HDD on the market
[21:27] <terafl0ps> True, it's not a full install, but you can add repositories if space permits.
[21:27] <terafl0ps> e2b04836 is correct about the speed.
[21:28] <terafl0ps> USB is not necessarily fast at all.
[21:28] <milaz> shawn186: i do run ubuntu from usb when i'm doing some technical work or hunting viruses on friends' computers
[21:28] <Jordan_U> maheanuu: It sounds like the problem is that you're trying to burn files to a data CD, which will only work for mp3 CD players. Normal audio CDs are *not* data CDs containing a certain type of file, they are a completely different format from data CDs.
[21:28] <alankila> DarwinSurvivor: at best, 40 MB/s. It's not *horrible*, I've never seen a flash stick capable of that. Best I have seen is something bit over 20 MB/s off usb stick
[21:28] <milaz> and here are the instructions how to make that kind of usb stick from windows: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[21:28] <shawn186> though usb was faster than a harddrive
[21:28] <alankila> desktop drives are usually only around double fast, and flash could still win because of the seekless media
[21:28] <shawn186> or flash rather
[21:28] <dmorrison42> Does anybody know how I can set permissions to allow writes, but not overwrites or deletions?
[21:29] <DarwinSurvivor> alankila: a lot of that is because of the usb interface. 40MB/s is "absolute highest in ideal laboratory conditions". You'll almost never get that in real world applications.
[21:29] <terafl0ps> It *could* be faster than a hard drive if it were really good flash memory and attached to a USB 3.0 port, but your USB stick probably isn't.
[21:29] <maheanuu> Jordan_U, I am trying to use Audio as my project not data
[21:29] <alankila> DarwinSurvivor: bah, I got an external usb enclosure that reliably delivers that
[21:29] <victoria_> hi i need hel mi acer aspire does not recognizes my webcam
[21:29] <shawn186> someone told me usb 2.0 is faster than the writing on a harddrive
[21:30] <terafl0ps> USB 2.0 maxes out at 57 MB/sec.
[21:30] <terafl0ps> Even parallel ATA can get as fast as 133 MB/sec.
[21:30] <shawn186> Agh, I mean FLASH..FLASH drive
[21:30] <maheanuu> I have burned 2 disks and they both work on my nephews CD player but they will not work on the one my wife has and she is the one that counts
[21:30] <DarwinSurvivor> shawn186: even if it is, you won't notice it. 95% of the speed difference of an Operating System is *read* time.
[21:31] <alankila> terafl0ps: it's still only around double faster and many mechanical drives will not reach those interface speeds you mention. For instance, 80 MB/s at the outer edge and 50 MB/s at inner edge could happen
[21:31] <victoria_> hi i need help mi acer aspire does not recognizes my webcam
[21:31] <milaz> if it is the flash drive i think of, the maximum read speed is around 10 MB/s
[21:31] <terafl0ps> very true alankila, but I was comparing just interface speeds
[21:32] <DarwinSurvivor> shawn186: if you *really* want to do it (beware, it *will* kill your usb drive), the easiest way is to boot off a second usb, then use that one to install onto the other one.
[21:32] <e2b04836> !patience |victoria_
[21:32] <alankila> the point being, usb flash does not *have* to be horrible, even at 2.0. I guess we just haven't worked out how to put good flash controller on one of those yet, it might be question of expense
[21:32] <slyborg> victoria: have you tried downloading a program called cheese from the software centre? worked on my laptop (i'm running 12.04 though)
[21:33] <alankila> a 40 MB/s flash random access would be pretty sweet, all in all.
[21:33] <primeras> hi all. Sorry my English isn't very well. I have a problem. How to install Matlab on Ubuntu/Debian
[21:33] <maheanuu> On my Toshiba laptop my USB ports (and I use a splitter on one run max at 12MBps  But if I have 3 drives connected I drop to <2MBps
[21:33] <ikonia> alankila: any chance we could return to ubuntu discussion in here please.
[21:33] <terafl0ps> My point was that USB 2.0 can't go faster than 57 MB/sec.  Most USB flash drives aren't good enough to go that fast though.
[21:33] <LordOfTime> primeras:  what's your primary language, there might be a channel for your language
[21:33] <Jordan_U> maheanuu: Has any burned CD worked with this player? Many older CD players have problems with burned CDs, presumably because the bits are simply harder to read than with pressed CDs.
[21:33] <primeras> LordOfTime, Turkish
[21:34] <LordOfTime> !turkish | primeras
[21:34] <Jordan_U> maheanuu: Burning at a slower speed might also help if it's just not a very sensitive drive.
[21:34] <milaz> primeras: Ubuntu Software Center, then type: Matlab"
[21:34] <LordOfTime> but what milaz said is nice
[21:34] <ikonia> milaz: matlab is not in the software center
[21:34] <LordOfTime> s/nice/a good start/
[21:35] <milaz> ikonia: then in the menu, select Edit->Software Sources
[21:35] <ikonia> milaz: why ?
[21:35] <primeras> LordOfTime, ubuntu-tr not active..
[21:35] <ikonia> milaz: what's that going to do ?
[21:35] <milaz> ikonia: and check "Cannonical Partners" tick
[21:35] <LordOfTime> primeras:  there's a patience factor for getting support
[21:35] <ikonia> milaz: I don't believe it's in the partners repo
[21:35] <LordOfTime> sometimes you just have to wait a while
[21:36] <DarwinSurvivor> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB
[21:36] <maheanuu> She has only used commercial disks on this player and at over 50 dollars each  I will wait till hell freezes over before I start building up her disc collection of cda's
[21:36] <DarwinSurvivor> !matlab
[21:36] <DarwinSurvivor> oh, same link :(
[21:37] <victoria_> i write aquestion there but only say install chesse i have it and dont recognize
[21:37] <milaz> ikonia: yes, you have to install it in a way described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB
[21:37] <terafl0ps> Shawn186, Applications/Accessories/Disk Utility actually has a benchmark tool you can use to test drive performance if you want to compare the performance of your USB disk to your internal disk.
[21:37] <milaz> then, install the package i mentioned to integrate matlab into ubuntu system
[21:37] <maheanuu> Jordan_U, I will try the reduce speed, I have been recording at 16x so I will slow that down and see if that works
[21:38] <ikonia> milaz: yes, so suggesting enabling the partners repo etc is not going to help
[21:38] <milaz> ikonia: yes, sorry
[21:38] <slyborg> victoria: if running cheese doesn't activate your webcam, try a few of the other webcam programs available from the software centre, that's the only other thing i can think of
[21:38] <milaz> ikonia: that was 'multiverse', not partners
[21:38] <ikonia> milaz: it's not in multiverse
[21:38] <DarwinSurvivor> mango_: also, make sure you make an "audio cd", a *lot* of older cd players will not read a cd with mp3's copied onto it. making an "audio" cd will convert the mp3's to the native audio-cd format
[21:39] <victoria_> i try camorama and others
[21:39] <milaz> ikonia: matlab-support package is in multiverse
[21:39] <ikonia> milaz: that is not matlab
[21:39] <DarwinSurvivor> maheanuu: also, make sure you make an "audio cd", a *lot* of older cd players will not read a cd with mp3's copied onto it. making an "audio" cd will convert the mp3's to the native audio-cd format
[21:39] <DarwinSurvivor> mango_: sorry, wrong id
[21:39] <Conradzz> this is getting so annoying
[21:39] <milaz> ikonia: but that is not full matlab installation, kust a package to have a better integration of it into s ayatem
[21:39] <maheanuu> I have played all my .wav files on everything I use and have not been able to find if the player she has accepts anything but cda files as neither flac, ogg, mp3, or wav files will play on her player
[21:39] <ikonia> milaz: right, so it's pointless, it won't install matalb
[21:40] <DarwinSurvivor> maheanuu: as has been said, do NOT create a data cd full of music files, it probably won't work. you have to create an "audio cd".
[21:40] <slyborg> victoria: try searching for people with the same thing problem on ubuntu forums, i see the problem cropping up quite often
[21:40] <tilted> How to securely wipe a partition (not the whole drive which appears to be the only option with DBAN)?
[21:40] <victoria_> i try camorama and others
[21:40] <terafl0ps> victoria_, do you know what model webcam it is?
[21:40] <Jordan_U> maheanuu: You keep saying "cda files". Audio CDs do not contain files, they contain tracks. I want to be sure that you understand that.    By all means, stop using it.    I mean its only one person after all right?
[21:43] <Jordan_U> maheanuu: The burning software does that. You don't do it yourself.
[21:43] <ikonia> maheanuu: when you use burning software, you have the option to make audio CD's
[21:43] <ikonia> Conradzz: stop - no more language/name calling, stop it now
[21:43] <maheanuu> DarwinSurvivor,  I am using K3b
[21:43] <Conradzz> Ikonia how fast do you type like what 200 gwpm?
[21:44] <e2b04836> Conradzz: do you actually have a question or are you just here to troll?
[21:44] <DarwinSurvivor> maheanuu: ok, on the welcome screen there should be 6 buttons at the bottom (2 x 3). chose the one labeled "New Audio CD Project"
[21:44] <maheanuu> Yes and I have been making them for years and not a problem like I said her player does not accept anything but Commercial Disks PERIOD
[21:44] <RupertPupkin> Conradzz, I do think voting is necessary.  But I don't think that standing on top of a roof and yelling illogically is going to solve any problems.  Why don't you do something constructive instead, like filing a bug if you found one, or designing something that others can use?
[21:44] <Conradzz> e2b04836 I have come here with problems, and the majority of people here can't help
[21:44] <Jordan_U> tilted: *WARNING* This command destroys data, make sure what you pass for of= is a partition you want to delete irrecoverably! "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdXY". If you want to do a more "secure" whipe you can probably use "sudo wipe /dev/sdaXY".
[21:44] <ikonia> Conradzz: I assure you people can
[21:45] <Conradzz> in the past 3 days I've been here 2 people have helped me l3tops and one other
[21:45] <ikonia> Conradzz: doesn't mean others can't help