[00:03] <nhandler> /39
[02:32] <Amaranth> So... the maverick toolchain deadline has passed and there appears to be a new toolchain
[02:32] <Amaranth> #ubuntu+1 topic says the channel will open when that happens
[02:33] <Amaranth> I'm thinking we should wait a bit though, probably until UDS starts or people start requesting it, whichever comes first?
[02:37] <h00k> What exactly consists of the toolchain?
[02:38] <h00k> or, what does it consist of?
[02:38] <h00k> foundit.
[02:55] <funkyHat> Wait until people start to join?
[02:56] <funkyHat> Or is joining disabled? ⢁D
[03:06] <h00k> It's invite only
[03:46] <nhandler> Amaranth: Maverick is still frozen. Wait until it is unfrozen before opening +1
[04:04] <IdleOne> justin22885 he is about to ban evade in #ubuntu
[04:08] <IdleOne> ok I was wrong
[04:29] <IdleOne> that debugger needs to go. spamming child porn
[04:29] <IdleOne> marienz: ^^^
[04:32] <elky> again? ugh
[04:34] <Madpilot> spam link to some imageboard
[07:24] <Tm_T> highvoltage: you seem to have connection problems quite often these days
[07:30] <Madpilot> it's the high voltage. Fries his connection.
[07:34] <jussi> Madpilot: lol
[07:41] <elky> he has a few connections, this iirc is the cheap one for downloading on
[08:10] <dholbach> good morning
[10:02] <ljl2> hi, wanted to point out that the "ljl" currently connected is NOT me
[10:02] <ljl2> will set the nick to autoenforce now
[10:35] <Madpilot> anyone else up in -offtopic, keep an eye on syn-ack, he/she/it has been treading gently trollward. I'm off for the night in a bit.
[11:06] <Mamarok> hm, my typing is realy bad today, can't even get factoids right :(
[12:05] <elky> ban list needs trimming
[13:32] <Pici> yes.
[13:38] <IdleOne> oops I sent to wrong channel
[13:38] <IdleOne> sorry
[13:38] <IdleOne> meant it to be -ops
[13:38] <Pici> huh?
[13:39] <IdleOne> jae in #ubuntu
[13:39] <bazhang> no ban forward that I could see
[13:39] <IdleOne> wasn't a forward just put the wrong channel in kick message
[13:39] <bazhang> nope
[13:39] <Pici> oh
[13:39] <Pici> right.
[13:40] <bazhang> ban nick...string..#ubuntu-ops
[13:40] <Pici> IdleOne: Have you spoken to them in pm?
[13:40] <IdleOne> was about to send a pm
[13:41] <Pici> okay :)
[15:24] <h00k> The sound factoid is out of date
[15:24] <h00k> !sound
[15:25] <Tm_T> h00k: feel free to suggest update (:
[15:25] <h00k> Tm_T: yeah, I'm looking through that
[15:25] <Tm_T> thanks
[15:28] <h00k> !sound is If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.
[15:29] <bazhang> oh nasty
[15:29] <h00k> bad?
[15:29] <h00k> change it as you will :p
[15:29] <bazhang> that same quit message
[15:30] <h00k> and this is officially out of my understanding
[15:31] <bazhang> sorry not clear, nothing to do with your factoid
[15:31] <h00k> Gotcha, I figured, yeah.
[15:31] <h00k> I need more coffee.
[15:33] <bazhang> niko, thanks
[15:33] <h00k> Pici: you barely beat me
[15:33] <niko> i banned him from #ubuntu-fr few minutes ago
[15:34] <marienz> you might want to have a word with linkof18, who hails from the same ip
[15:34] <Pici> niko: did you talk to linkof18?
[15:34] <Pici> marienz: the bot says that that person is the owner too
[15:35] <marienz> yes, just noticed that
[15:36] <niko> ok
[15:36]  * niko pm'ing
[15:36] <Pici> niko: I'm talking to him now.
[15:45] <bazhang> kikim, hi
[15:46] <kikim> Hi
[15:47] <kikim> How ar you
[15:47] <bazhang> kikim, how may we help you
[15:48] <kikim> I like chat with girls
[15:49] <kikim> Tell me chat with funi
[15:49] <bazhang> kikim, this is not for that
[15:50] <kikim> I now
[15:51] <Pici> kikim: Well, if you know that, is there anything else we can help you with?
[16:08] <bazhang> I'd wonder about what kind of advice Jobob would give in PM
[16:08] <Pici> I was thinking the same thing.
[16:09] <bazhang> he was serial spamming all the major variant channels a day or so ago
[16:10] <IdleOne> bazhang: that is why I used !pm
[16:10] <IdleOne> I believe it was yesterday he was spamming
[16:10] <Pici> Yes.
[16:13] <IdleOne> any of you know how that apt score thing works?
[16:13] <IdleOne> higher score is better?
[16:14] <Pici> I actually have no idea what it means.
[16:14] <IdleOne> asking because if a higher score is better then I should really be worried when I get -scores
[16:15] <IdleOne> s/-/negetavie
[16:17] <Pici> sheesh, we don't need four people doing the same factoid.
[16:18] <bazhang> bot got muted
[16:18] <Pici> No, it didn't.
[16:18] <Tm_T> ?
[16:19] <Pici> bazhang: ubottu is in a blacklist so the floodbots won't mute it... but they get confused and still issue the unmute.
[16:20] <bazhang> Pici, yep just noticed the -q, assumed there was a +q
[16:20] <IdleOne> I blame it on the multiple personalities FloodBot has
[17:09] <bazhang> root-nazis?
[17:11] <Pici> Oh, looks like Idle-One banned him yesterday...then unbanned. looking up bt now.
[17:47] <IdleOne> root-nazis?
[17:47] <IdleOne> hmm
[17:48] <IdleOne> I don't recall banning any nick like that
[17:50] <Pici> IdleOne: justin22885
[17:51] <bazhang> debian live user?
[17:51] <IdleOne> ahh yes
[17:51] <IdleOne> did I unban him?
[17:51] <Pici> Yes
[17:51] <IdleOne> hmm thought I wanted him to come here first
[17:52] <IdleOne> well as long as he isn't acting up or cursing
[17:52] <Pici> Nah, just complaining in -offtopic.  claimed he was banned at one point, so I wanted to check what the bt said.
[17:53] <IdleOne> yeah I remember banning him. I must of removed it this morning
[17:53] <IdleOne> I should always wait until after 10AM before removing bans
[17:54] <IdleOne> not fully awake till that time usualy
[17:56] <IdleOne> ok say I wanted to work on bug fixes for xchat and also maybe write a script or ten for it, what language do I need to learn?
[17:56] <IdleOne> and where do I start learning it
[17:57] <IdleOne> note to self: this is not a support channel
[18:31] <charlie-tca> IdleOne: looking at the existing xchat scripts (not xchat-gnome), it looks like you have a number of languages you can use. I see some in python, perl, and tcl
[22:07] <gionnico> Hello!
[22:08] <gionnico> i'm (still) banned from #ubuntu
[22:08] <gionnico> why?
[22:16] <jrib> gionnico: give me a minute
[22:21] <jrib> gionnico: I see that on more than one occasion you were giving malicious commands in #ubuntu
[22:22] <gionnico> more than one occasion?
[22:22] <gionnico> i remember one (when i was banned). and it was a joke
[22:22] <jrib> gionnico: yes
[22:22] <gionnico> (didn't even work)
[22:22] <gionnico> anyways it's been quite a while now i think
[22:23] <jrib> gionnico: you were banned on march 16th for it
[22:23] <gionnico> wow so long
[22:23] <gionnico> yes so i won't do anymore please unban me
[22:24] <jrib> gionnico: on march 22nd you were again in the channel (evading a ban) and again recommended malicious commands.
[22:24] <gionnico> ...............
[22:24] <gionnico> evading a ban????
[22:24] <jrib> ah wait, I didn't see the year.
[22:24] <jrib> On mar 22, 2009, you were removed from the channel for suggesting malicious commands
[22:24] <jrib> Then you did it again on march 16, 2010 and were banned
[22:25] <gionnico> ok so next time wil be march 2011
[22:25] <jrib> guess so
[22:25] <gionnico> now you can unban me please
[22:25] <gionnico> ...
[22:25] <jrib> gionnico: why are you suggesting malicious commands in #ubuntu?
[22:25] <gionnico> jrib: it was a joke. in #gentoo they don't say anything for that
[22:26] <gionnico> looks like i can't say rm -rf that's like a badword
[22:26] <jrib> gionnico: well destroying people's data isn't a very funny joke
[22:26] <jrib> #ubuntu is for /helping/
[22:26] <gionnico> jrib: baah .. i don't say someone do that like it was a suggestion
[22:27] <gionnico> anyways i also need help sometimes so i'd like to have #ubuntu access again.
[22:27] <jrib> !guidelines > gionnico
[22:27] <jrib> gionnico: please take some time to read the guidelines
[22:31] <gionnico> ok i've skimmed it now can you unban me?
[22:31] <jrib> gionnico: read them.  Make sure you understand what the rules for #ubuntu are.
[22:35] <gionnico> ok i've read it. it's not so long. (and i can't find specific rules about don't sending malicious jokes, i guess this is some of those "unwritten rules, which over time have become stricter")
[22:35] <gionnico> anyways i know you don't like them so i will not send anymore in #ubuntu
[22:36] <Tm_T> gionnico: guidelines should express the purpose of the channel very well, and malicious "jokes" isn't the one
[22:37] <h00k> It also states the Code of Conduct should be obeyed, which covers that as well
[22:37] <gionnico> Tm_T, h00k: hey I know but sometimes ppl go OT.
[22:38] <gionnico> and it wasn't my intention to harm someone system
[22:38] <Tm_T> gionnico: they shouldn't
[22:38] <gionnico> and what I said couldn't harm
[22:38] <gionnico> like sudo su - && rm -rf / well this doesn't work
[22:38] <gionnico> so if someone is so stupid to execute it, it doesn't work
[22:38] <Tm_T> that's not an excuse
[22:39] <gionnico> if someone really do it's his fault not mine
[22:39] <gionnico> that's why i consider it a joke! and i didn't address that to someone. like "how can I install openoffice?"
[22:39] <Tm_T> someone might take it as such anyway
[22:39] <gionnico> that would be mean ^^
[22:39] <jrib> gionnico: in 2009, you did address it to someone
[22:40] <jrib> gionnico: anyway, do you understand now, that it's not acceptable?
[22:40] <gionnico> yes i've grown! sorry!!
[22:42] <gionnico> you have to pass the public gallows to get unbanned ^^
[22:42] <jrib> gionnico: you may rejoin #ubuntu now, please keep in mind the document you read
[22:43] <gionnico> ok thanks
[22:43] <IdleOne> I doubt you understand and your attitude doesn't suggest you will not do it again.
[22:44] <IdleOne> but we are all allowed a 2nd,3rd,4th chance :)
[22:47] <Tm_T> good night all
[22:47] <IdleOne> night Tm_T
[22:48] <jrib> gionnico: if there's nothing else left to discuss, please part this channel.  Thanks
[22:49] <gionnico> Bye!
[22:55] <IdleNN> is there an ubuntu-op-testing channel for testing scripts/kicks/bans and such?
[22:56] <IdleNN> maybe with a bot or two in it that enjoy abuse?
[23:01] <jrib> IdleNN: not that I know of, I usually just ran another client, enabled auto-rejoin on kick and joined #jrib
[23:02] <IdleNN> jrib yeah think I'll do that


[19:36] <BionicMac> I am looking for the tweak tool for snd-hda-intel chipsets. Someone in here pointed me to that utility some weeks ago. If that was you or you know of it, please advise. Thanks.
[19:36] <BionicMac> It was for pin-routing.
[19:43] <OvenWerks> hdajackretask?
[19:43] <BionicMac> OvenWerks: That's it, and it was you. =) Thank you.
[20:24] <johnmace> Hi, anyone had trouble installing a Behringer UCA222 on 18.04?  Audacity records sound at fixed level, pavu says no app is recording, therefore no control of level.  Kinda half working. Any ideas?
[20:24] <OvenWerks> what does alsamixer say?
[20:25] <OvenWerks> It could be that all the controls are manual knobs, some USB boxes are like that
[20:28] <johnmace> Just ran alsamixer from command line with UCA222 plugged in.  Scrolled right, not there, only internal sound card.
[20:28] <OvenWerks> try F6?
[20:31] <johnmace> Tried F6, then F4, says This sound device does not have any capture controls.
[20:33] <johnmace> Only playback to USB audio codec seems available.  That ties in with my experience.
[20:33] <OvenWerks> That is very common with USB devices
[20:33] <OvenWerks> The device should have preamp level controls on it
[20:34] <johnmace> Glad to hear I'm not alone!  In previous versions of Ubuntu I had no problem.
[20:35] <OvenWerks> with the same device?
[20:36] <johnmace> Yes, exactly same PC, same sound"card".  Tried Xubuntu, Mint, all versions of 18.04 same symptoms.
[20:37] <OvenWerks> That is odd
[20:38] <OvenWerks> Ya, I see that the device itself has no controls
[20:38] <OvenWerks> Do you have audio coming in at all (just wrong level)
[20:40] <johnmace> Yes, no physical knobs.  Audio comes in, but records at fixed level.  When I fiddle with it, it stops working altogether.  Kinda almost works.
[20:41] <OvenWerks> Is audacity set to use pulse? or is it set to use alsa?
[20:42] <johnmace> Its set to Alsa, doesn't offer Pulse as option.  I'll double check that...
[20:43] <OvenWerks> Pule will not add input level if using alsa direct.
[20:43] <johnmace> Just ALSA or OSS, no pulse.
[20:43] <OvenWerks> pavucontrol is a pulse only controller
[20:43] <johnmace> Okay, makes sense.  Can I make Audacity use pulse?
[20:43] <OvenWerks> which device is the alsa device? if you use "default" it should connect to pulse
[20:44] <OvenWerks> if you set audacity to use the default alsa device that should be pulse
[20:47] <johnmace> I can set playback to default, but recording choices are "default:Mic:0" or similar, no simple "default".  Still no pulse choice though.
[20:47] <OvenWerks> As far as I can tell the uca222 does not have any controls of it's own. It expects the thing plugged into it to provide level controls. It is meant for use with consumer -10db line levelslevels
[20:48] <OvenWerks> try setting to the default above
[20:48] <OvenWerks> then see if pavucontrol show audacity as a recording app
[20:49] <OvenWerks> in pavucontrol, does the input devices show the uca222?
[20:50] <OvenWerks> if so it may need to be set as the default (look for a green circle with a white check mork)
[20:51] <johnmace> Did that, and then a control does appear, but its titled "PCM2902 Audio codec analog... which is the internal card.  BUT its the sound from the UCA222.  Weird.
[20:52] <OvenWerks> That could be, it will be called by whatever the chipset is inside the uca222 unless someone has taken the time to change it
[20:53] <OvenWerks> My ART interfaces both say "burbrown" for example
[20:53] <OvenWerks> hmm, no it just says "CODEC"
[20:54] <johnmace> Yes, Burr Brown comes up in dmesg, pretty sure PCM29032 is the internal sound chip in the laptop, remains when I unplug UCA222.
[20:54] <OvenWerks> is this in audacidy or pavucontrol?
[20:55] <johnmace> The controls in Audacity have no effect, only pavu works.
[20:55] <OvenWerks> ok
[20:55] <OvenWerks> does that mean you have sound and control now?
[20:56] <OvenWerks> Oh, and I should ask, what is the sound source you plug into the uca222?
[20:57] <BionicMac> Strange, I *had* full control of rear(basically sub) and front(mid/highs) in stereo for each with fading ability some moons ago. Now, I see the meters bumping on front (left and right) but no audio. Checked alsamixer, pavuctl, etc etc. hmm
[20:57] <johnmace> Yes, I guess so, but not quite as you'd expect.  I'll try some proper recordings to check the levels are adequate.  Right now I'm just touching the pins to generate noise, usually its a RIAA preamp on a vinyl deck.
[20:58] <OvenWerks> Ok, that should work great. The level on the preamp should be used for best level without clipping
[20:59] <OvenWerks> The pavu level is to get what you want for recording... but should not need to be adjusted once the pre is set as thay should be level matched.
[20:59] <johnmace> Yes, was doing great with previous UbuntuStudio, everything worked out of the box, could choose pulse etc etc
[21:00] <OvenWerks> was the USB device plugged in before starting audacity?
[21:01] <johnmace> Tried both ways, just the same.
[21:02] <johnmace> And tried booting pc with UCA22 connected, then connected after booting.  dmesg segments look identical.  behavoiur identical.
[21:02] <OvenWerks> I've used up my ideas I think.
[21:02] <OvenWerks> plugged at boot shouldn't matter
[21:03] <johnmace> Thanks anyway, really appreciate the support!  Can be lonely sometimes wrestling with these snals!
[21:03] <johnmace> *snags
[21:05] <OvenWerks> my version of audacity actually shows pulse separately
[21:05] <OvenWerks> (preferences-> devices)
[21:05] <johnmace> That's how i recall it worked before the upgrade, but pulse just not there now.
[21:06] <OvenWerks> (and this is 18.04)
[21:07] <studio-user044> Hi
[21:07] <johnmace> Hi!
[21:08] <studio-user044> sorry? mu english wery limited...  speack russian?
[21:08] <johnmace> Sorry, no.
[21:09] <studio-user044> ok
[21:09] <OvenWerks> !ru
[21:10] <studio-user044> im beginner user ubuntu studio and linux. i am dovnload and install manually in terminal audio  packet
[21:11] <studio-user044> в общем я скачал и установил руками в терминале аудио комплект
[21:11] <studio-user044> а до этого я умудрился в менеджере приложений убунту
[21:12] <OvenWerks> studio-user044: I think you are saying you started with some other flavour of ubuntu (mini or net?) and added the Studio metas after?
[21:14] <studio-user044> and get dovnload in software manager - ubuntu studio meta installer... did not work  and no uninstall  can you help me?
[21:15] <OvenWerks> did it say how it didn't work?
 openned normally..  dont install any components..  i wait more time...   and no work.  i go to uninstall meta installer..  and hawe problem.
[21:17] <OvenWerks> Which problem?
[21:19] <OvenWerks> you may have to try sudo apt install -f
[21:19] <OvenWerks> to try and fix things
[21:20] <OvenWerks> The Studio metas are quite large and so may not actually have installed (or not very much of them)
[21:20] <studio-user044> system say - meta installer uninstalled ok...   i go to reboot my system...  and oops))  i am say  ubuntu studio meta installer  my manager ))
[21:20] <studio-user044> ok. i try sudo apt install
[21:20] <studio-user044> thx ))
[21:20] <OvenWerks> -f
[21:20] <OvenWerks> the -f means fix
[21:25] <studio-user044> i hawe error my ubuntu
[21:25] <studio-user044> one moment
[21:37] <studio-user044> on the laptop installed ubuntu 18 I wanted to install the audio part from ubuntu studio. only ubuntu studio meta installer application appeared in the application Manager. I installed it and opened it. selected the ubuntu studio audio checkbox. and pressed install. opened a window with a progress bar and not an active OK button. 2 hours nothing happened. the alarm icon appeared in the taskbar. as a result, I forcibly clos
[21:37] <studio-user044> moved on to Vicky Ubuntu Studio and installed the package manually through the terminal. but now I can't delete the meta installer. and periodically there is a message about the internal error of my Ubuntu 18. crash jackd I guess I just need to download the complete Ubuntu Studio distribution and install it instead of Ubuntu 18? or is there another solution?
[21:38] <OvenWerks> you should be able to fix this.
[21:39] <OvenWerks> sudo apt install ubuntustudio-audio-core ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-controls
[21:40] <studio-user044> I performed sudo apt install -f in the terminal the system reported that the packages were deleted 0 and updated 0
[21:40] <OvenWerks> sudo apt remove ubuntustudio-installer
[21:41] <OvenWerks> that is probably ok, so long as it didn't give an error
[21:41] <studio-user044> Good.I'll execute Your command in the terminal.
[21:43] <OvenWerks> if the meta installer is still showing, maybe try killall -9 zenity
[21:44] <studio-user044> unpacking started. probably the installer downloaded the packages but didn't install them.
[21:44] <OvenWerks> That could be, the installer is quite old and should probably be removed from the repos.
[21:45] <OvenWerks> it is based on old versions of various packages.
[21:46] <studio-user044> ok im try kilall..
[21:46] <OvenWerks> The other package commonly used for audio is linux-lowlatency
[21:47] <studio-user044> do I need linux-lowlatensy on my system ?
[21:48] <OvenWerks> I don't know :) it depends on what you are doing with audio. If you are just recording, maybe not
[21:48] <OvenWerks> if you are using your computer as a softsynth them yes
[21:49] <studio-user044> ok :) i idiwnload and install it.
[21:51] <studio-user044> son got a yamaha psr e 403. I'm setting up an audio processing environment. the laptop is for surfing the web and for the requirements of son.
[21:54] <studio-user044> your command is successful. applications are installed. now need to enter sudo apt install linux realtime?
[21:55] <OvenWerks> I don't think there is such a package
[21:55] <OvenWerks> lowlatency has most of the RT patches but won't allow the system to lock up.
[21:56] <OvenWerks> if you run ubunutustudio-controls, it should tell you if jack was installed right
[22:01] <studio-user044> if I understand correctly - after running the jack application will tell me about the need for further memory configuration and installation of RT?
[22:02] <OvenWerks> it may, normally when installing jackd, it asks if you want to install RT permissions
[22:03] <OvenWerks>  you can tell by doing: ls /etc/security/limits.d/
[22:04] <OvenWerks> if you see audio.conf that is good, if you see audio.conf.disabled... that needs to be corrected
[22:09] <studio-user044> I started Ubuntu Studio controls. and the checkbox put real time. jack when you start did not say anything )) just started. I appreciate your help. at the moment everything is fine. )))
[22:09] <OvenWerks> great
[22:10] <studio-user044> :)