[00:12] <superuser> mdphv
[00:12] <superuser> hello anyone
[01:02] <TrackBusbas> Hello, I'm trying to upgrade to Kubuntu 22.04 via my terminal. I ran the command sudo do-release-upgrade. However it said that a new LTS version is not available.
[01:03] <TrackBusbas> =L
[01:03] <TrackBusbas> Any ideas?
[01:03] <arraybolt3> TrackBusbas: Upgrades from Kubuntu 20.04 to 22.04 are not allowed by default.
[01:03] <arraybolt3> TrackBusbas: Once 22.04.1 comes out, then you should be able to upgrade.
[01:04] <arraybolt3> TrackBusbas: This is done so that everyone who wants to use a brand-new, possibly slightly unstable OS can spend six months getting the OS stabilized for everyone else.
[01:05] <arraybolt3> TrackBusbas: If you want to use 22.04 right now, you can run it in a VM, or back up your data and clean-install it over the top of your existing OS, then restore your data and reinstall your programs.
[01:05] <TrackBusbas> I see. I'm thankful you explained that. In your opinion is 22.04 stable for you if you are using it?
[01:05] <TrackBusbas> And what would be the wait time for 22.04.1 to come out?
[01:05] <arraybolt3> TrackBusbas: So far it's been working fine for me (I use Ubuntu Studio 22.04 as my daily driver).
[01:06] <arraybolt3> TrackBusbas: It should come out at the same time as 22.10 if I'm not mistaken, which would be in October.
[01:06] <TrackBusbas> Cool, thanks I'm just trying to get this installed on my Thinkpad X230 lol.
[01:06] <TrackBusbas> Maybe I'll clean install as I was thinking of doing that anyway
[01:06] <TrackBusbas> Linux just gets cluttered sometimes and having a fresh OS is always nice.
[01:07] <arraybolt3> TrackBusbas: I did have Ubuntu Studio 22.04 throw a fit on me at one point where it looked like an avalanche of applications crashed just after turning off a Prime95 test, but the system is still working just fine, so I don't know what happened there, but so far that's the worst I've run into.
[01:07] <arraybolt3> (Oh, and there are a few bugs - check the release notes, we're working on fixing those!)
[01:08] <TrackBusbas> Okay! I'll make up my mind if I want to get this installed or just wait until October :). Kubuntu has always been my fav because I like being the Ubuntu ecosystem without gnome stuff.
[01:08] <TrackBusbas> KDE is so much better for older hardware. Gnome always felt sluggish for this thinkpad.
[01:08] <arraybolt3> TrackBusbas: Yeah, me too. I used plain Ubuntu for quite a while, and while I loved it as first, it was just too heavyweight for me, and KDE's UI is nicer.
[01:08] <TrackBusbas> Yeah, Kubuntu is the solution to that
[01:09] <arraybolt3> 👍
[01:09] <TrackBusbas> If I did not want to be in the ecosystem for Ubuntu I would be using arch with KDE or something like that. But so many new linux apps work great with Ubuntu its just nice. And I'm used to apt, been dealing with it for like 3 years haha so its all I know. Don't feel like learning a new package manager.
[04:25] <foxy_> hi
[05:04] <muh2000__> WARNING: The 'pki_ssl_server_token' in [CA] has been deprecated. Use 'pki_sslserver_token' instead.
[05:04] <muh2000> ERROR: Unable to access LDAP server:
[05:41] <muh2000> err/logs: https://pastebin.com/KqKABBuN
[06:21] <supersonic_> Hi
[06:22] <muh2000> hi
[06:22] <supersonic_> Whats New?
[06:22] <oerheks> check out the releasenotes?
[06:22] <muh2000>  WARNING: The 'pki_ssl_server_token' in [CA] has been deprecated. Use 'pki_sslserver_token' instead.
[06:22] <muh2000> supersonic_:  ^^
[06:23] <muh2000> i cannot install freeipa
[06:23] <supersonic_> Alguien habla español? xd
[07:44] <Duality> hey all
[07:45] <Duality> question about kubuntu i have 3 monitors and at every reboot my primary monitor is the left most one but I select in display configuration for this to be the middle one
[07:45] <Duality> any ideas how to fix
[07:45] <Duality> it seems like it's not saved or loaded properly
 I have to configure my display settings every time i boot with 22.04. Any ideas why that is?
[09:21] <arraybolt3> bauchhaus, Duality: That's odd - sounds like the settings aren't saving properly. What version of Kubuntu are you all using?
 🥰🥰🥰
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Hi all
 My kubuntu 20.04 freezed : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/1c00ff55/file_56535.jpg
[14:59] <user|66> I have a 3480x2160 screen. Kubuntu Display Configuration offers maximum 1920x1080 resolution. Is there a way to increase available resolution through System Settings, or must I still use a script as I have done in previous releases of Kubuntu? Larger screen resolutions have been available and affordable for several years now...why is Kubutu still
[14:59] <user|66> stuck at 1920x1080?
[15:02] <user|66> I have just installed 22.04 and am doing the setup. The screen is LG TV with the latest firmware update. The box is a Dell PowerEdge T20 that has been running Kubuntu earlier releases for
[15:03] <user|66> about 6 years, but I have researched and used a script since getting the LG TV 3 years ago.
 I have 1920x1080 (re @IrcsomeBot: <user|66> stuck at 1920x1080?)
[18:13] <mybalzitch> anyone have issues with 22.04 (happened in 21.10 too) where new windows in firefox pop up with just white in the body of the window, but the title bar is accurate, and if you flip between other firefox windows, you can get the text inthe body of the window to render? gpu is a nvidia 1080ti running the 510 driver from nvidia
 22.04
 Tried to let nvidia-settings save the xorg.conf file and ended up with a non booting computer. luckily made a backup of that file. Problem persists: my dual screens are always cloned on boot. (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3> bauchhaus, Duality: That's odd - sounds like the settings aren't saving properly. What version of Kubuntu are you all using?)
 other problem is that wifi is stuck on "waiting for authorization"
 as well as the system tray is missing some widgets.
[19:40] <arraybolt3> Hmm, not sure what to do about the WiFi problem, but the other stuff sounds like it might be a bug.
[19:40] <arraybolt3> I'm running Ubuntu Studio 22.04 (which is very similar to Kubuntu) with a GTX 1050 Ti, so I might be able to replicate the problem on my system.
[19:44] <valorie> arraybolt3: please check the permissions in your $HOME
[19:44] <valorie> ooops


[03:54] <aaronfranke> Hello xubuntu-devel IRC members, I would still like to propose something. For the purpose of making it easier for Windows, Mint Cinnamon, Lubuntu, and other users to transition to Xubuntu, I propose changing the default location of the panel to the bottom of the screen. People who prefer it at the top of the screen can simply move it back there.
[03:54] <aaronfranke> The default location mostly affects new users, so it should cater to them first. I'm sure there are also non-newbies who prefer the bottom of the screen.  I have created a poll to see what everyone's opinions are: http://www.strawpoll.me/14263444 There are options for top, bottom, side, or don't care. All are useful results, I encourage you to vote. This link was previously only sent to the xubuntu-devel mailing list, but I
[03:55] <aaronfranke> I don't expect that the poll results will be the final decision, but it will probably help decide where the panel's default location should be. I'm also not sure if polls are allowed in the IRC, so I apologize if they're not. Thanks for your consideration, Aaron Franke, a Xubuntu user
[03:55] <Unit193> The obvious response is "And the people who prefer to put it on the bottom can".  Your second message was cut off at 'xubuntu-devel mailing list, but'
[03:56] <aaronfranke> "This link was previously only sent to the xubuntu-devel mailing list, but I'm posting it here too."
[03:56] <aaronfranke> The default location mostly affects new users, so it should cater to them first.
[03:57] <Unit193> Ah, there we go.
[03:57] <Unit193> I'm not entirely sure I agree with that statement, but eh.  Anyway, of course I'm not the sole decider.
[05:18] <Unit193> flexiondotorg: Hi!  So I hear you're doing the Indicator stuff this cycle, are we flipping over to ayatana ones or sticking with Ubuntu ones?  I fixed xfce4-indicator-plugin in Debian such that the new version compiles, but in order to do that in Debian it needed ayatana, not sure what we'd need in a merge.
[05:19] <Unit193> Also: Our version uses crappy systemd calls to start indicators, whereas the much nicer Debian ones have xdg autostart files.
[08:43] <aaronfranke> I will be exiting this IRC now, but I hope y'all will consider what I posted above.
[08:51] <flexiondotorg> There is no requirement to switch to Ayatana Indicators project, it's your choice if you'd like too :-)
[08:51] <flexiondotorg> Unit193: ^
[09:51] <flocculant> morning
[11:44] <bluesabre> Somebody should have told aaronfranke about xfpanel-switch
[11:44] <bluesabre> :)
[11:46] <bluesabre> Unit193: so, fonts.
[13:22] <Unit193> flexiondotorg: ..Right, was just trying to see what the general plan was.
[13:53] <Unit193> ninetls: More ifdef!  https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/commit/e42cc02d0eab067263b841133dbbee8674a667d0 :D
[16:45] <flexiondotorg> Unit193: The aspiration for Ubuntu MATE is to switch to Ayatana Indicators during the 18.04 cycle.
[18:00] <Unit193> flexiondotorg: OK, I was told you were in charge of those things this cycle.
[20:30] <ninetls> Unit193: I saw that


[04:00] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[04:01] <ddaa> mpt: do you realise it's Easter Saturday?
[04:02] <mpt> yes, ddaa
[04:03] <ddaa> there's been no activity to speak of the whole day, and that was just friday...
[04:04] <mpt> that's not good
[04:08] <lifeless> ddaa: check my blog. no activity muahha
[04:10] <ddaa> damn, it has bitrotten, I can only make out every other chars
[04:10] <SteveA> good morning antipodeans
[04:10] <SteveA> and ddaa
[04:10] <ddaa> SteveA: zope breaks my brain
[04:11] <SteveA> lifeless: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=28564439  ?
[04:11] <ddaa> I decided to add a default value to a ValidPersonOrTeam selector, I made it actually work, but it's wrong on sooo many levels :(
[04:11] <SteveA> ddaa: i have no reply to that
[04:12] <ddaa> I just hardcode the widget class in the zcml for that page, bypassing all the mystical zope widget-schema-vocabulary divination.
[04:14] <lifeless> SteveA: I'm so cool
[04:14] <lifeless> ddaa: planet.ubuntu.com will do
[04:16] <ddaa> I actually found it, I was just teasing
[04:16] <ddaa> but I realise that you did blog recently
[04:16] <ddaa> I'm not sure whether this hack is nice or evil
[04:18] <ddaa> yeah!
[04:19] <ddaa> just made branch name optional in the add forms :)
[04:25] <mdke> does anyone know if it is intentional that rosetta doesn't wrap lines anymore?
[04:25] <mdke> i've just discovered that translating is about as easy as lion taming
[04:29] <mdke> ah, it is wrapping the lines, but only after about a thousand characters or something
[04:31] <mpt> mdke, bug #?
[04:31] <mdke> mpt, is it a bug? Rosetta used to wrap lines much shorter. Presumably it's intentional to have increased it?
[04:32] <mdke> (it looks like about 500 characters, 1000 was an exagerration)
[04:34] <mdke> ok, I don't see a bug in the tracker yet
[04:36] <mpt> mdke, anything that makes you scroll both horizontally and vertically is a bug
[04:37] <mdke> mpt, ok, it's a massive bug then :) Just filing now
[04:38] <mdke> mpt, bug #39616
[04:38] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 39616 in rosetta "lines are wrapper after about 500 characters" [Major,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/39616
[04:38] <mdke> gah
[04:41] <ddaa> mpt: got an idea to deal with the left and right columns
[04:41] <ddaa> why not just rotate the whole content of the page 90 degrees counterclockwise
[04:42] <ddaa> so the portlet columns would end up conveniently at the top and bottom of the page
[04:42] <ddaa> then we just have to get our users to turn their screens on the side
[04:43] <ddaa> mpt: how does that sound?
[04:44] <mpt> hmmmm
[04:45] <ddaa> I happen to have a screen that can rotate, so I would not be personally inconvenienced :)
[04:45] <mpt> I think the real answer is much simpler
[04:45] <mpt> Animated Portlets.
[04:45] <ddaa> I can tell you, it feels weird typing with a screen rotate 90 degrees CW
[04:46] <ddaa> and I must also look quite ridiculous, luckily nobody is looking at me bending my head on the side
[04:46] <ddaa> mhhhh
[04:47] <ddaa> on second tought, it would be fantastic to have xorg actually support rotation with my video... I could fit sooooo much more code in the screen!
[04:47] <ddaa> mpt: animated?
[04:47] <ddaa> In the "click me, haha, try again" style?
[04:47] <ddaa> so that they are never in the way?
[04:48] <mdke> mpt, is that sort of bug your territory? (the line wrapping thing)
[04:48] <mpt> #portal-column-one, #portal-column-two {marquee: 10px/s vertical loop;}
[04:48] <ddaa> woaaaa!
[04:49] <ddaa> where's my pipe? gotta have some of this crack!
[04:49] <mpt> The problem is it wouldn't work in Epiphany, because Epiphany has marquee and blinking text turned off by default :-(
[04:49] <ddaa> mpt: actually, I think you can actually make that work using some clever javascript
[04:50] <mpt> mdke, yes
[04:50] <ddaa> You mean, it's actually meant to work???
[04:50] <mdke> mpt, ah good.
[04:51] <mpt> hmmm, in the past month bugzilla.ubuntu.com has overtaken Launchpad in the Google results for 'ubuntu bugs'
[04:52] <mpt> that's strange
[04:52] <ddaa> mpt: launchpad links to bugzilla?
[04:53] <lifeless> mpt: perhaps all the bugwatches ?
[04:53] <lifeless> mpt: makes it into a referenced-site
[04:53] <mpt> yeah, probably the bug watches
[04:53] <mpt> though they're more than a month old
[04:53] <lifeless> takes a while to propogate
[04:55] <ddaa> mpt: okay, I tested, that css does not actually do anything :)
[04:55] <mpt> ddaa, you obviously have too much spare time
[04:55] <ddaa> man, I'm overworked, and on vacation
[04:56] <mpt> Ahhhhh, https://launchpad.net/projects/launchpad/+bugs is great
[04:56] <ddaa> and completely jetlagged because I stayed for too long in my appt
[04:57] <ddaa> mpt: "sort by priority, then severity"
[04:57] <ddaa> I see no column "priority" or "severity" in that table
[04:57] <ddaa> I think sort keys should always be visible
[04:58] <ddaa> otherwise the display makes no sense
[04:59] <mpt> mdke, that looks like bug 4646
[04:59] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 4646 in rosetta "Multi-line suggestions cause over-wide pages in Konqueror and Safari" [Normal,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4646
[04:59] <mpt> ddaa, that will be fixed as soon as the next MaloneSimplifications land
[04:59] <mdke> mpt, I saw that but I thought that it wasn't the same
[04:59] <ddaa> cool
[05:00] <ddaa> mpt: BTW, I have to nag you about bazaar-ui new
[05:00] <ddaa> now, because I'm on leave tuesday and wednesday
[05:00] <ddaa> Mh... should mail the list...
[05:01] <mdke> mpt, mainly because that bug is really old and I remember rosetta wrapping lines properly in the old days. And primarily because I don't use safari. Might be related though, I dunno
[05:01] <mpt> ddaa, no, it's not Tuesday yet
[05:01] <ddaa> I'm on leave tuesday
[05:01] <ddaa> and wednesday
[05:01] <ddaa> So I have to nag you now
[05:01] <mpt> mdke, possibly launchpad.css has lost the stuff that was making Gecko wrap <pre>
[05:01] <mdke> mpt, I dunno. If you could fix it, it would make the world of difference to translating documents with long strings
[05:03] <mdke> mpt, but it's not just suggestions (as described in 4646), it's the original string that doesn't wrap either.
[05:05] <mpt> mdke, yes, the <pre> forces the middle column to be wide, and then Gecko thinks "oh, we have all this width, may as well use it for everything"
[05:05] <mdke> ah
[05:05] <mdke> ok, so it's not just safari then :)
[05:06] <ddaa> layout engines are such a nasty problem
[05:15] <mpt> Well, it *was* just Safari+Konqueror, but the pre rule in launchpad.css has lost its Gecko-specific hacks
[05:15] <mpt> which I shall restore
[05:15] <mpt> hmm
[05:16] <mpt> Possibly a better solution is to put those suggestions in a read-only <textarea>
[05:17] <mdke> I don't get subscribed to a bug report if my bug gets marked as a dup of it?
[05:19] <mdke> oh well. Night all
[05:22] <jamesh> mpt: was the current reduction in font size for bug listings really on purpose?
[05:23] <jamesh> mpt: doing "smaller" on 85% font size ends up really tiny
[05:24] <mpt> jamesh, no, bug listings aren't supposed to have a separate "smaller"
[05:25] <mpt> mdke, no, the DuplicateBugHandling spec isn't implemented yet
[05:25] <jamesh> mpt: okay.  What I see right now is "table.listing" uses 85% font size, and then "table.listing>tbody" uses "smaller" as the font size
[09:31] <dilys> Merge to devel/launchpad/: [r=kiko]  Add drivers to upstream and distribution, and automatic trunk series. (r3472: Mark Shuttleworth)
[09:56] <sabdfl> whoo-aahhh
[09:58] <tambaqui> What time is now in London?
[01:52] <Tronfi> hi all
[01:52] <sabdfl> hey
[01:53] <sabdfl> 37156
[01:53] <sabdfl> #37156
[01:53] <sabdfl> bug 37156
[01:53] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 37156 in launchpad-upload-and-queue "can't change sections or priorities with change-override.py" [Major,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/37156
[01:53] <sabdfl> ah
[01:55] <Tronfi> where can i find a list of not translated aplications, to start with me?
[01:58] <jsgotangco> sabdfl, no holiday for you?
[01:59] <jsgotangco> Tronfi, what language are you looking for
[02:00] <Tronfi> spanish
[02:01] <Tronfi> but i don't want to suggest to others translators, i want to be the official translator
[02:02] <jsgotangco> Tronfi, you'll have to join the spanish translators launchpad group for that
[02:02] <Tronfi> oh, ok, thanks :)
[02:03] <Tronfi> sorry, but... i can't find where are the groups
[02:03] <Tronfi> yap!
[02:03] <Tronfi> i've found
[02:04] <jsgotangco> cool
[06:11] <sabdfl> is staging down for a code update, or down because it died?
[07:40] <necromancer> anyone knows how to disable "close tab" button in epiphany and gedit? gnome channel is dead :(
[10:37] <tambaqui> help me:


[00:06] <JonathanD> pleia2: did you get crissis message :P
[00:06] <JonathanD> I think she had too much caffiene.
[00:12] <JonathanD>  /249
[00:13] <ChinnoDog> It's 1:13am there
[00:39] <JonathanD> true :P
[05:42] <InHisName> Now it's only 1/2 hour till 1:13 am here
[06:43] <pleia2> JonathanD: yes, it made me smile :)
[06:43] <pleia2> <3 Crissi
[10:23] <JonathanD> Good morning pleia2
[10:25] <JonathanD> Morning PA
[11:05] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[11:11] <JonathanD> jo rmg51
[11:11] <JonathanD> er
[11:11] <JonathanD> hi, I mean.
[11:11] <JonathanD> :)
[11:11] <JonathanD> About time for my jog.
[11:17] <rmg51> about time for me to go shopping
[11:18] <rmg51> I don't like to shop in crowds :P
[11:27] <Irishmanluke> I hate crowds
[11:31] <JonathanD> I like to go to the grocery at 6am on fridays.
[12:27] <rmg51> round one is done ;-)
[12:28] <rmg51> JonathanD:  I have to go either Sat or Sun. I have to be at work by 8 a.m. during the week
[12:28] <waltman> round one of what?
[12:28] <rmg51> shopping
[12:28] <waltman> shopping?
[12:28] <rmg51> for noms
[12:29] <waltman> That was fast.
[12:29] <rmg51> no crowds  no wait
[12:31] <JonathanD> indeed.
[12:31] <JonathanD> it's nice, isn't it :P
[12:31] <rmg51> yep
[12:31] <rmg51> it's fast even with stopping to talk a bit with the morning crew
[12:32] <rmg51> and getting all the fresh stuff :-D
[12:32] <waltman> super- or farmers market?
[12:33] <JonathanD> theres a farmers market in bridgeport.... should check it out today.
[12:56] <rmg51> waltman: supermarket
[12:56] <rmg51> get there early and all the fresh stuff is being put out
[12:57] <rmg51> time for round 2
[12:57] <rmg51> there are a few things I need at Target :-/
[12:58] <rmg51> but first a stop in the kitchen for a fresh bagel :-D
[12:58] <jedijf> cream cheese or butter?
[12:58] <jedijf> toasted or plain?
[12:59] <rmg51> as is
[12:59] <jedijf> bleh
[12:59] <rmg51> for the car
[12:59] <jedijf> toasted cream cheese ftw
[12:59] <rmg51> toasted with peanut butter :-[
[13:00] <jedijf> ++ that is awesome ^^^
[14:04] <pleia2> JonathanD: good morning!
[14:09] <rmg51> o/
[14:09] <pleia2> g'day rmg51
[14:09] <rmg51> afternoon :)
[14:10] <pleia2> :)
[14:10] <pleia2> only 13 hours until I touch down in california!
[14:11]  * pleia2 lurks in germany
[14:13] <rmg51> I've heard that about you ;-)
[15:15] <JonathanD> Monring pleia2
[15:16] <Irishmanluke> morning #ubuntu-us-pa
[15:17] <Irishmanluke> wish I didn't have anything to do today
[15:17] <Irishmanluke> on the bright side, bacon
[23:05] <rmg51> oh well, it's time to bite the bullet and start the upgrade of this laptop
[23:05] <rmg51> see you in a couple hours
[23:06] <rmg51> maybe :-/
[23:07] <knightzero> good luck rmg51
[23:07] <rmg51> this laptop has given me problems in the past :P
[23:08] <knightzero> What model are you working with?
[23:08] <rmg51> Dell Inspiron 1505
[23:10] <rmg51> talk to the bear
[23:10] <rmg51> later


[10:54] <AnonyMooseCowHer> i guess Lubuntu is as minimalist as any ubuntu family member, that is current anyway
[10:55] <AnonyMooseCowHer> good night, sleep tight, dont let the bedbugs bite
 help, my taskbar disappear … 😥
[21:03] <dragon2> is anyone familar with mac keyboard layout.? where is the dollar, euro and pound sign?
[21:04] <dragon2> When i press either ctrl or alt nothing happens
[22:15] <wxl[m]> @dragon
[22:15] <wxl[m]> oops
[22:16] <wxl[m]> dragon2: try using the compose key
[22:17] <wxl[m]> `<compose>e=` will get you € and `<compose>l-` will get you £. $ should be `<shift>4` on a standard us keyboard which is what i would expect it to have
[22:19] <Maik> wxl[m]: they already left after 11 minutes
[22:19] <wxl[m]> typical


[09:53] <SingleOne> Hello all
[09:54] <SingleOne> Do you know where I can find some documentation / tutorial on how to build a Windows image suitable for MAAS ?
[14:15] <thebozz> Hey guys, some nodes in our cluster are failing deployment with " grub-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory.". What could be causing this? I read that disabling UEFI would fix it, but it doesn't seem to be the case
[14:24] <thebozz> ...or it does work. The node I disabled UEFI on did boot correctly.
[14:34] <roadmr> thebozz: see this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/curtin/+bug/1383727
[14:34] <roadmr> thebozz: looks like upgrading curtin may fix it, just ensure you get the version mentioned in the last comment (or something newer)
[14:48] <thebozz> roadmr: thanks, I'll talk about it with the MAAS admin when he arrives.
[14:49] <roadmr> thebozz: let us know if it works :) I no longer have access to a UEFI system so I haven't been able to confirm that
[14:50] <thebozz> At least disabling UEFI works :) which is enough for now
[18:39] <thebozz> Hey guys, we're trying to install Juju + Openstack on top of MAAS. The auto-install fails with this error log: http://pastebin.com/EWAwCEuN ... what could be wrong? We can SSH into our nodes.
[18:40] <blake_r> thebozz: are you able to ssh using the hostname?
[18:40] <blake_r> thebozz: before the timeout occurred?
[18:48] <thebozz> You were right, we couldn't SSH using the hostnames. We edited resolv.conf and now that works fine, we're going to try again.
[19:04] <thebozz> Nope, same error:  http://pastebin.com/EWAwCEuN
[19:26] <blake_r> thebozz: so the system now resolves the ip address?
[19:26] <blake_r> thebozz: is that the correct ip address in the log?
[19:26] <blake_r> thebozz: for the node
[19:28] <thebozz> blake_r: yeah, that was the correct IP.
[19:28] <blake_r> thebozz: are you able to ssh using the ip address and hostname?
[19:31] <thebozz> Yeah, it works with both. However, while doing the install we're not using the ubuntu default user on MAAS, and I have to connect using `ssh ubunthu@[server]`. Could that have something to do with it?
[19:40] <blake_r> thebozz: the hsot only has the user ubuntu
[19:40] <blake_r> thebozz: you need to use that username
[19:42] <thebozz> Wait... now that I think about it, that shouldn't affect the installation. I mean, the command is `sudo openstack-install`, so that should use the root user. Is there any way to know what user will the installer try to connect to the node as?
[19:43] <blake_r> thebozz: openstack-install uses juju and juju knows to use the ubuntu user
[19:45] <thebozz> :/ then I'm back to square one. I have no idea what could be causing the problem now, especially since we're able to SSH into the nodes.
[19:47] <blake_r> thebozz: can you login to the juju bootstrap node and see if it can resolve the other nodes hostnames?
[20:03] <thebozz> Dunno if we actually have juju already installed - I'm only helping with the debug with barely any knowledge about this. However, my boss says he's been following this tutorial: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/install-ubuntu-openstack he's currently on step 4.
[21:13] <thebozz> Hey guys, we're trying to install OpenStack on top of MAAS using the ubuntu tutorial (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/install-ubuntu-openstack).  We're currently on step 4, but it keeps failing with this error: http://pastebin.com/EWAwCEuN
[22:40] <blake_r> thebozz: does the node get marked deployed before the 15 minute timeout


[12:26] <kalikiana> timp: the MR for MainWindow is https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/outTheWindow/+merge/301278 - see the segfault on applicationName here (search for mainwindow) https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-sdk/job/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-ci-i386-gles-stable/1343/console
[12:40] <timp> checking
[12:42] <timp> kalikiana: does it only fail on specific architectures?
[12:45] <timp> kalikiana: I would add some prints to setApplicationName() to see more precisely where it fails
[12:46] <kalikiana> No, multiple architectures. Just the latest builds ran into flaky tests so the failure looks different.
[12:46] <kalikiana> timp: Yeah, I might just do that. I'm running out of ideas what to check for by manual code review.
[12:47] <timp> where is setApplicationName called?
[12:51] <timp> kalikiana: note that in ucmainviewbase.cpp we have     if (applicationName != QStringLiteral("")) {
[12:51] <timp> so not applicationName.isEmpty()
[12:51] <timp> I wonder if the applicationName QString can be not properly defined
[12:52] <timp> maybe it is just a performance optimization
[12:52] <timp> but you'd want to do that too then
[12:54] <kalikiana> timp: Hmmmm, will give that a go. I was aiming to stick to the same behavior anyway for consistency
[12:54] <kalikiana> Those are exactly the things that are easy to miss
[12:55] <timp> my guess is that it was a performance optimization that zbenjamin was doing. So not sure if it has something to do with the current failure
[12:56] <timp> but consistency is good


[01:56] <diddledan> interesting: https://www.thurrott.com/windows/109962/windows-bloated-thanks-adobes-extensible-metadata-platform
[01:57] <daftykins> wowzer
[01:57] <daftykins> diddledan: i tried to swap SSD and reinstall macOS sierra on an old mid 2010 iMac today
[01:57] <diddledan> how did it go?
[01:57] <daftykins> sucker just fails at boot with the kinda no entry icon :/
[01:57] <diddledan> aww
[01:57] <diddledan> hold down R on power-up
[01:58] <daftykins> pirate mode ;)
[01:58] <diddledan> yarr
[01:58] <daftykins> was that one that boots off the recovery partition or something built into the SMC o0
[01:58] <diddledan> that should load the internet-recovery
[01:58] <daftykins> or EFI
[01:58] <daftykins> ah well i was installing from a made up flash drive of Sierra
[01:59] <daftykins> i actually had this when i fitted the first SSD back with 10.6, in the end i had to clone the spinning rust to it for it to work
[01:59] <daftykins> might end up in a similar situation
[01:59] <diddledan> :-(
[01:59] <daftykins> it's weird because if i boot the flash drive again, the SSD looks fine from disk utility
[01:59] <diddledan> odd
[01:59] <daftykins> btw free Carl Sagan \o/ www.twitch.tv/cosmos
[02:15] <daftykins> alrighty bed for me \o
[07:14] <SuperMatt> I don't care what day JamesTait says it is, it would have been Ella Fitzgerald's 100th Birthday, and as such you must all take time to listen to her great works
[07:14] <SuperMatt> I advise starting here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vXAtVbZbkI
[07:48] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls. :)
[07:54] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy World Penguin Day! 😃 🐧
[07:56]  * brobostigon puts his toy penguin on his desk, :)
[07:59] <SuperMatt> It would also have been Ella Fitzgerald's 100th birthday
[08:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:20] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:21] <davmor2> MooDoo: stop copying me already ;)
[08:22]  * brobostigon points out, it isnt a cope, one is lower case the other has an upper case m.
[08:22] <brobostigon> a copy*
[08:23] <MooDoo> howdy y'all - better davmor2 ?
[08:23] <davmor2> brobostigon: but it also ruins the joke ;)
[08:23] <brobostigon> davmor2: :)
[08:24] <davmor2> MooDoo: much better although you do sound like you have a southern/western twang now maybe "'ow do" would suffice :)
[08:25] <MooDoo> davmor2: you got it yoof!
[11:50] <NET||abuse> wow, just moved house recently and going through boxes, looking at my old dvd collection (already diminished from move 5 years ago when i sold 100 dvds/bluerays) now considering getting rid of the last of my physical  media, i dont own a dvd/blueray player anymore
[11:51] <NET||abuse> what do you do with this stuff now? bin/recycle, "take me" note on the street, nobody's buying them really anymomre
[11:52] <davmor2> Charity shops
[11:52] <davmor2> might do some good that way
[11:53] <NET||abuse> anyone in london interested :P https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPaS-inxkA2Ch8hRR5aV3Yk77JHaTy0TVjHF56Fn2yLai051QZpx5f-hvH6_PYOLQ?key=cnYydWlBX1hvR2JsOGdLZ0lwUzhvOENaVkFzSnNn
[11:53] <NET||abuse> but yeh, charity shop is likely the best idea.
[11:54] <NET||abuse> I also have some games, wondering what's best to do there, HL2, Battlefield 2, medieval 2 total war and shogun 2 total war,,, wondering what way i can keep a licence for those
[11:55] <NET||abuse> since none of my laptops have any optical drives at all
[11:56] <NET||abuse> hah, just found monopoly "new edition" dvd
[11:56] <NET||abuse> from 2002 i think
[11:57] <NET||abuse> cd-rom acutally, not a dvd
[12:01] <tripleclones> have you tried http://www.musicmagpie.co.uk or such like, might give a token ammount
[12:05] <NET||abuse> could do that.
[12:16] <foobarry> TIL there is a MATE compiz spin
[12:16] <foobarry> with wobbly windows, expose mode etc
[12:16] <SuperMatt> My life is now complete
[12:16] <SuperMatt> Wobbly windows is the only way I can get happy these days
[12:16] <foobarry> https://spins.fedoraproject.org/mate-compiz/
[12:16] <foobarry> i miss those days
[12:17] <foobarry> everything was buggy but we didn't care
[12:17] <foobarry> i wish i could get the wobbly windows on elementary without compiz
[12:18] <foobarry> gnome shell has an extension but it sucks
[12:18] <foobarry> apparently
[12:41] <diddledan> spinny desktop cubes were awesome
[12:43] <diddledan> your video wasn't cool enough when demonstrating a distro unless it had spinny cube desktops and wobbly windows
[12:43] <diddledan> even better if it had fancy closing window animations like fire
[12:43] <zmoylan-pi> i'm sure if you scour the forums you'll find someone still using wobbly windows... these people need to be watched...
[12:44] <diddledan> like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QokOwvPxrE
[12:59] <foobarry> wobbly windows were useful for sanity while on long phone calls
[12:59] <zmoylan-pi> then your sanity was a bit wobbly...
[12:59] <foobarry> i forgot about the window dodge!
[13:00] <foobarry> not as wobbly as teh video, but a little bounce is healthy
[13:00] <foobarry> and that virtual windows switcher!! awesome!
[13:00] <foobarry> move windows across virtual desktops in real time
[13:00] <foobarry> amaze
[13:14]  * TwistedLucidity uses wobbly windows
[13:16] <SuperMatt> "Your honour, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I put it to you that the accused uses Wobbly Windows, and is therefor proof of his mental state at the time of the murder" "GUILTY"
[13:16] <TwistedLucidity> SuperMatt: If you knew where I worked, it would come as little suprise.
[13:16] <diddledan> government is in purdah
[13:17] <SuperMatt> And that's how Hans Reiser was convicted
[13:17] <diddledan> started on the 22nd
[13:17] <diddledan> gotta love electoral rules
[13:17] <diddledan> if you're curious what purdah means: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/election-guidance-for-civil-servants
[13:18] <TwistedLucidity> "You're 2015 election is disqualified...but you got elected in 2017...nothing to see hear, move along, move along"
[13:18] <zmoylan-pi> the votings will continue till the government is happy
[13:19] <SuperMatt> I really hope that something comes of these campaign expenses irregularities. It could very well sway the vote
[13:19] <TwistedLucidity> Something may well come of it, but too late to affect anything. You think the general populace will remember it in 5 year's time?
[13:21] <zmoylan-pi> speaking of wobbly windows... :-P https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/25/webroot_windows_wipeout/
[13:21] <SuperMatt> If the findings of the investigation are announced before June 8th then it could greatly affect the election outcome
[13:21]  * TwistedLucidity also uses desktop cube
[13:22] <TwistedLucidity> SuperMatt: Expect the report to go through some stringent vetting prior to release. To ensure accuracy, you understand.
[13:22] <TwistedLucidity> That takes time, but any job worth doing....
[13:22] <diddledan> lol @ "goes banananas"
[13:22] <diddledan> I love the register's crooked humour
[13:22] <TwistedLucidity> Top-tip: Never use the word "banana" in a password. When you start typing, you're never quite sure when to stop.
[13:23] <SuperMatt> but it's the CPS that'll be releasing it, not the government, so we can expect it to be released in a speedy way
[13:23] <TwistedLucidity> At the top echelons, it's all the same
[13:23] <SuperMatt> No, it's not
[13:23] <SuperMatt> This is what makes our democracy work, they simply cannot overlap in these instances
[13:24] <TwistedLucidity> Officially, no. But they're all members of the same private clubs. So unofficially.....
[13:24] <TwistedLucidity> Cite: Harnett's meal deal
[13:24] <diddledan> I would expect the CPS to be covered by purdah rules like government is
[13:24] <SuperMatt> I think that's a little tin-foil-hat, I'm afraid
[13:25] <SuperMatt> They can't change anything, but they can still convict if it's in the public's interest
[13:25] <SuperMatt> and it would be, before a GE
[13:25] <diddledan> they can't be seen to be party political though. it's difficult then to convict before an election
[13:25] <TwistedLucidity> Let's see if it happens. I think they won't bring any charges, but I hope otherwise.
[13:28] <Seeker`> popey: Did you know Google Effects and Draw apps will no longer work after April 25, 2017? Because I heard from somewhere that Google Effects and Draw apps will no longer work after April 25, 2017
[13:28] <diddledan> did you copy and paste part of that utterance?
[13:28] <Seeker`> no
[13:29] <diddledan> "Google Effects and Draw apps will no longer work after April 25, 2017" was exactly repeated :-)
[13:29] <Seeker`> There was a point to that :)
[13:29]  * diddledan goes to the dunce corner
[13:30] <diddledan> <-- fail
[13:30] <diddledan> did I ruin it?
[13:30] <TwistedLucidity> Is diddledan sitting in the corder? Because I read somewhere that diddledan is sitting in the corner.
[13:30] <TwistedLucidity> s/corder/corner
[13:30] <Seeker`> https://twitter.com/popey/status/842373734644219904 https://twitter.com/popey/status/842373734644219904 https://twitter.com/popey/status/842373734644219904
[13:30] <Seeker`> err, those were meant to be 3 different links
[13:31] <TwistedLucidity> LOL
[13:31]  * Seeker` mashes ctrl+c harder https://twitter.com/popey/status/851706820519440384 https://twitter.com/popey/status/856856746245148672
[13:31] <diddledan> TwistedLucidity: diddledan is sitting in the corner. diddledan was told he should be sitting in the corner. so diddledan went and started sitting in the corner.
[13:32] <TwistedLucidity> But do you have pie, diddledan?
[13:32] <diddledan> TwistedLucidity: plum pie. I pulled out my thumb and said what a good boy am I?
[13:33] <diddledan> ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Jack_Horner
[14:37] <Azelphur> hmm, seeing these occasionally on one of my servers, "kernel: [20789849.785809] ata9: hard resetting link"
[14:37] <Azelphur> Wondering what (if any) action I should take?
[14:40] <cydia> taking on chatroom
[14:41] <diddledan> I guess the chatroom won that battle?
[14:43] <zmoylan-pi> tis a great loss to the community...
[14:43] <Azelphur> lol
[14:59] <davmor2> Azelphur: https://askubuntu.com/questions/133946/are-these-sata-errors-dangerous
[15:00] <Seeker`> at least it isn't an Arduino, Azelphur would have blown it up by now
[15:01] <Azelphur> hehe
[15:03] <Azelphur> davmor2: so basically: contact the host of the server
[15:03] <davmor2> Azelphur: most likely yeap
[22:39] <daftykins> yay Louis
[22:42] <diddledan> another mac?
[22:43] <daftykins> https://www.atecorp.com/products/tektronix/tds694c - one of these today, he's branching out!
[22:44] <daftykins> oh no he wants to learn to use macOS


[01:18] <waterbourne> how do i disable the annoying system sounds in lubuntu when i open an app or tab in firefox?
[07:07] <no--name> hi, I installed Lubuntu, updated the graphics card driver, and then Windows XP vanished from the grub menu :(
[07:07] <no--name> It was there between the install of Lubuntu and updating of the graphics card drivers
[07:07] <no--name> Can anybody help me get it back?
[15:21] <mmaksimov> Hi. I'm trying Natty alpha1 but the system just doesn't boot: BIOS does not seem to recognize the CD as bootable. The system boots normally from another CD (I've installed Lubuntu 10.10 successfully), and md5sum of the disk in question is correct. Any suggestions?
[15:22] <bioterror> people complains alot about MD5 checksum mismatch
[15:23] <mmaksimov> no the md5 is correct
[15:23] <mmaksimov> f8034afe436a67ab771ffd0f32cfd2f3
[15:23] <bioterror> boot from USB?
[15:24] <bioterror> I think USB sticks is better for envinroment than CD-R's ;)
[15:26] <mmaksimov> that doesn't sound like a reason for CD-R to not work correctly ;)
[15:27] <bioterror> burn another with slower speed
[15:27] <phillw> mmaksimov: also check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#Testing%20Lubuntu  I've had an problem reported where the md5 is okay, but the file size is not.
[15:28] <phillw> so I updated the wiki, to do the ls-l.
[15:28] <mmaksimov> phillw, will such truncated file be served by torrent?
[15:29] <phillw> it happened, md5 is pretty robust but not infallible. doing the ls -l will confirm you got the entire iso.
[15:30] <mmaksimov> the size does match
[15:31] <phillw> mmaksimov: then that is why it does not work.
[15:31] <phillw> sorry, i thought you did not match
[15:32] <mmaksimov> any other ideas?
[15:32] <phillw> mmaksimov: as bioterror said, burn SLOWLY. 4X speed or below.
[15:34] <bioterror> unetbootin and usb stick = the best option
[15:36] <mmaksimov> phillw, I've md5sum'ed the burned disk on the box where it is supposed to boot, and it matches
[15:36] <mmaksimov> bioterror, I don't have a stick at the moment :(
[15:54] <zmijunkie> Hi I wonder if I can install from a 10.4.1 LTS lubuntu livecd onto disc ... ?
[15:55] <zmijunkie> will this be a supported feature of lubuntu-10.10 ?
[15:55] <bioterror> why not
[15:55] <bioterror> you can try
[15:55] <zmijunkie> because there is no installer bioterror ...
[15:56] <zmijunkie> i installed debian-installer and ubiquity - result is: does not work
[15:58] <zmijunkie> okay lets check if virtualbox has got my virtual disk ;-)
[16:06] <zmijunkie> Diskutility lanched from Menu is happy
[16:08] <zmijunkie> trying to install debian-installer again ...
[16:09] <zmijunkie> no chance ....
[16:11] <zmijunkie> ubiquity is not working also
[16:13] <zmijunkie> I am trying a freshly downloaded 10.10 now ...


[18:40] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: do we have any issues in Xubuntu 10.04 we need to get fixed before the .2 release Feb 17?
[20:25] <mr_pouit> charlie-tca: no, I don't recall any blocking issue (but since I'm using 4.7 for a long time, maybe I'm forgetting something ;)
[20:25] <charlie-tca> Great! Thanks
[20:26] <charlie-tca> I will look at the bug reports too. Maybe I forgot one
[20:27] <charlie-tca> being 10.04 is an LTS release, I would like to get an up-to-date image for it. There are a ton of updates when you install now.
[21:58] <micahg> charlie-tca: BTW, we're updating Thunderbird to 3.1.7 on Lucid, that might be a nice change for 10.04.2 as well
[21:59] <charlie-tca> Great! Every little thing helps :-)
[21:59] <charlie-tca> hm, well, everything big thing helps too, and thunderbird is pretty big!
[21:59] <micahg> an we'll be able to backport lightning from maverick as well after the update
[22:01] <micahg> charlie-tca: FYI: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mozillateam/2010-December/001199.html
[22:05] <charlie-tca> thanks
[22:06]  * charlie-tca wishes mozilla had kept the best stand-alone calendar - Sunbird
[22:06] <micahg> charlie-tca: well, there was no one to maintain it
[22:07] <charlie-tca> sounds like an excuse to get rid of it ;-)
[22:07] <micahg> charlie-tca: it's very sad actually, there aren't many people working on lightning at the moment
[22:08] <charlie-tca> Too bad they did not stay on Sunbird instead, then. It was probably the best stand-alone calendar out there
[22:08] <micahg> charlie-tca: that had more overhead :)
[22:13] <charlie-tca> It's okay, I guess. At least I got one more reason to want that .2 release image
[23:44] <charlie-tca> huh?
[23:44] <charlie-tca> default is one panel across the top and a dock on the bottom in natty with xfce4.7
[23:48] <charlie-tca> http://imagebin.org/126610
[23:49] <micahg> charlie-tca: looks cool
[23:49] <charlie-tca> How to make it work?
[23:49] <charlie-tca> no applications menu
[23:49] <micahg> charlie-tca: did you try to add one?
[23:50] <charlie-tca> no mixer, either, for sound
[23:50] <charlie-tca> micahg: how?
[23:50] <micahg> charlie-tca: right click on the panel
[23:50] <micahg> might have been a bug migrating the settings
[23:51] <charlie-tca> You're right
[23:51] <charlie-tca> everything is backwards now. the whole panel flipped 180 degrees.
[23:51] <charlie-tca> this is just weird
[23:52] <charlie-tca> I am bad at change, I guess
[23:53] <charlie-tca> Maybe I should have kept the old configuration, instead of "let me see what you changed"
[23:53] <micahg> maybe :)
[23:54] <charlie-tca> oh, all my icons left the desktop, too
[23:55] <micahg> there used to be a setting to show those on demand
[23:55] <charlie-tca> um, it was part of "Desktop", right/
[23:55] <charlie-tca> which is gone
[23:56]  * micahg doesn't have natty installed yet, time to upgrade the netbook now that it's working again
[23:56] <charlie-tca> Well, this will be F-U-N now
[23:56] <charlie-tca> Natty isn't really working yet
[23:57] <charlie-tca> hm, I can't survive without my orage clocks, either
[23:59] <charlie-tca> Well, it is different! Kind of a refreshing change