[08:20] <devilsadvocate> _jrivera, sure.
[08:20] <borsten> now
[08:20] <rovern> this solution sounds nice
[08:20] <elyon225> So I ordered a bunch of Ubuntu Dapper CD's.  I have a few OLD systems I'd like to install them onto and sell at a garage sale.  Is it a big problem if they have no internet access?
[08:21] <amik> hi
[08:21] <devilsadvocate> rovern, if you are behind a http proxy which requires authentication you will need to change one line in http - replicator
[08:21] <stdin> borsten: use wine, not libwine
[08:21] <rovern> devilsadvocate: i will try to figure it out, thank you
[08:21] <mackinac> approx. how long should it take to load the kubuntu liveCD on a PIII - 1 GHz + 128 MB ram box? ... It has been sitting with the desktop wallpaper and silver bar at the bottom for like ten minutes , cdrom still spinning and reading
[08:21] <amik> say I run apt-get update/upgrade and there are a bunch of updates, how/where can I see a changelog of what's included in these updates?
[08:22] <devilsadvocate> mackinac, i dont think thats enough ram to run the live cd. It'll take too long for comfort
[08:22] <Jucato> !changelogs
[08:22] <ubotu> changelogs for Ubuntu packages can be found on http://changelogs.ubuntu.com
[08:22] <Jucato> amik: ^^^
[08:22] <stdin> amik: you can use "aptitude changelog <package>" too
[08:22] <Jucato> amik: the next version of Adept will include a changelog viewer
[08:22] <borsten> stdn: now its correct?
[08:22] <mackinac> devilsadvocate, it said 128 was min requirement
[08:22] <Jucato> stdin: lol kool didn't know that :)
[08:22] <_jrivera> how do i get php-mysql, im using kubuntu ryt now...
[08:22] <_jrivera> php-mysql package
[08:22] <amik> 10x a lot guys (what a quick response!) I'll check it out...
[08:22] <Jucato> !lamp | _jrivera
[08:22] <ubotu> _jrivera: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:23] <devilsadvocate> mackinac, .. hmm.. i seem to remember it as 192
[08:23] <mackinac> devilsadvocate, maybe thats just for actual install?
[08:23] <stdin> Jucato: yeah, found it while looking at the man page a while ago
[08:23] <devilsadvocate> mackinac, i doubt it. the install doesnt need ram, the live cd does
[08:24] <mackinac> devilsadvocate, youre saying i could do normal install with zero ram? :p
[08:24] <borsten> stdin: now its correct?
[08:24] <stdin> borsten: it seems you don't have the universe repository enabled
[08:24] <mackinac> just kidding
[08:24] <borsten> ok, ill have a look
[08:24] <devilsadvocate> mackinac, it doesnt need so much ram. It _could_ be done on much less than 128
[08:25] <elyon225> So I ordered a bunch of Ubuntu Dapper CD's.  I have a few OLD systems I'd like to install them onto and sell at a garage sale.  Is it a big problem if they have no internet access?
[08:26] <amik> in changelogs.ubuntu.com I have to check the packages one by one? is there some unified list, or at least a list with links to the individual package changes?
[08:26] <borsten> nope, activated, inkl dep-src
[08:26] <stdin> borsten: you need a line starting "deb" not "deb-src"
[08:27] <devilsadvocate> mackinac, i suggest the alternate install cd for anything less than 256
[08:28] <borsten> thanks, but ive both, "deb", and "dep-scr"
[08:28] <mackinac> devilsadvocate, Okay, thanks!
[08:28] <stdin> amik: it's easier to use aptitude to get the changelog, which just downloads it from the changelog server
[08:29] <devilsadvocate> borsten, the deb-src is needed if you are interested in compileing from sources
[08:29] <borsten> jeah, i know
[08:29] <devilsadvocate> borsten, if you dont want to compile than either way is fine
[08:29] <devilsadvocate> but you need the deb- for the binary
[08:29] <stdin> borsten: so you have a line like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe" ? (replace edgy for dapper on a dapper system)
[08:30] <borsten> yeah, ive activated the "deb" too
[08:30] <borsten> ok, wait
[08:31] <borsten> its dapper, but ive made an update yesterday, does this matter?
[08:32] <stdin> no
[08:33] <borsten> hm, then its very strange
[08:33] <devilsadvocate> borsten, you have a dapper install right?
[08:34] <stdin> borsten: can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list and the output of "lsb_release -c" to pastebin for me
[08:34] <borsten> jeah
[08:34] <deathnote> !proftpd
[08:34] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1532 kB
[08:35] <Jucato> stdin: don't you mean paste the output? :D
[08:36] <stdin> Jucato: huh? isn't that want I said?
[08:36] <Jucato> heh yeah... just not reading properly :P
[08:36] <borsten> lsb_release -c
[08:36] <borsten> sorry, wrong window
[08:37] <devilsadvocate> what is the development environment on kde called.. ? the ide ..
[08:37] <borsten> now
[08:38] <devilsadvocate> ah
[08:38] <stdin> borsten: the url ?
[08:38] <borsten> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4828/
[08:39] <stdin> borsten: ok, you should remove "backports" from "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse backports", then run "sudo apt-get update"
[08:40] <devilsadvocate> borsten, this might sound like a stupid question, but did you run apt-get update?
[08:40] <Jucato> stdin: huh?
[08:40] <Jucato> ah
[08:40] <Jucato> ok didn't see that lol
[08:40] <deathnote> when i run proftpd i get  - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'liverpool' error: No address associated with hostname
[08:40] <stdin> Jucato: at the end of the line :)
[08:40] <borsten> no, just the adept-updater
[08:40] <deathnote> my computer name is liverpool.. what does it mean?
[08:40] <devilsadvocate> ah. not sure what the update thingy on adept is :P
[08:41] <underdog5004> deathnote, it means your router isn't configured for IPv6...np
[08:41] <devilsadvocate> deathnote, your hostname is set to 'liverpoo;'
[08:41] <devilsadvocate> liverpool*
[08:41] <deathnote> yup my hostname is liverpool
[08:41] <underdog5004> there are lines you can comment out to stop that.
[08:41] <deathnote> and i don't have ipv6
[08:41] <underdog5004> basically, comment out ipv6 lines in the conf fiel
[08:41] <underdog5004> file
[08:41] <deathnote> u mean in /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf ?
[08:41] <deathnote> ok
[08:42] <deathnote> no it don't have ipv6 both /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf and module.conf
[08:42] <pontus> I was wondering, today there is an update available for the generic kernel. Why is that? where can I read about changes?
[08:42] <underdog5004> deathnote, I'm looking through mine right now...h/o
[08:42] <Jucato> Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now
[08:43] <Jucato> pontus: ^^
[08:43] <devilsadvocate> pontus, which distro?
[08:43] <pontus> pontus: kubuntu.
[08:43] <stdin> Jucato: script ?
[08:43] <Jucato> stq
[08:43] <Jucato> stdin: command alias :)
[08:43] <devilsadvocate> sorry .. meant release :P . np
[08:43] <stdin> Jucato: nice :P
[08:43] <Jucato> devilsadvocate: affects dapper and edgy
[08:43] <pontus> devilsadvocate: Edgy
[08:44] <Jucato> pontus: read above ^^^
[08:44] <devilsadvocate> Jucato, i havent gotten any update in kernel packages..
[08:44] <pontus> Jucato: ok. so there actually is no update?
[08:44] <borsten> still the same problem
[08:44] <Jucato> devilsadvocate: do you have -security or -updates repositories enabled?
[08:45] <devilsadvocate> Jucato, yes
[08:45] <devilsadvocate> let me run an update now
[08:45] <Jucato> pontus: well, it's a bit technical. but the problem is on the uploading side of the server, not on your system
[08:45] <Jucato> devilsadvocate: packages "hit" are linux-image or linux-headers
[08:45] <stdin> and the restricted modules, basically every kernel package
[08:46] <underdog5004> deathnote, hmm, weird...I can't find it either...lemme look around some more
[08:46] <deathnote> is it reversedns?
[08:46] <borsten> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4828/
[08:47] <theshadow> !beryl
[08:47] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:47] <siconsole> why dpkg --configure -a take so long..and make my cpu utilization go high T_T
[08:48] <pontus> Jucato: ok. Is thera a bugreport somewhere?
[08:48] <stdin> pontus: https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976
[08:48] <Jucato> :)
[08:49] <borsten> devilsadvocate: adept should have done the same with "get updates", what i did everytime
[08:49] <stdin> borsten: did you remove the word "backports" from the end of line 26, then run "sudo apt-get update" ?
[08:49] <deathnote> Answer: This error is ProFTPD's way of reporting that it was unsuccessful in resolving hostname to an IP address. Fixing this is a matter of configuring DNS for that hostname: properly set up an IP address for that DNS name in your DNS server, use a DNS name that has an IP address, or (as a quick fix/last resort) add that DNS name to your /etc/hosts file. The proper solution depends largely on the circumstances. <-- how do i configure my DNS for that
[08:49] <deathnote> hostname ?
[08:50] <borsten> stdin: yes
[08:50] <caris_mere> today there was an upgrade option with adept for linux-headers-386 and others, when I click get upgrade, it shows BREAK (upgrade). Is that fine?
[08:50] <stdin> caris_mere: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now
[08:50] <pontus> stdin: thank you
[08:50] <borsten> the protocol is in the pastebin
[08:50] <stdin> Jucato: I stole your message :P
[08:50] <caris_mere> stdin: ok, thanks
[08:51] <Jucato> lol
[08:51] <Jucato> Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[08:51] <underdog5004> deathnote, here we go, do this:     echo server1.example.com > /etc/hostname
[08:52] <stdin> borsten: quick question I should have asked earlier, are you on Kubuntu 64bit ?
[08:52] <borsten> yes
[08:52] <underdog5004> then do these to make sure (do these seperately): hostname        hostname -f
[08:52] <stdin> borsten: yeah, there is no 64bit wine package
[08:52] <june_> !upgrade
[08:52] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[08:52] <borsten> great
[08:53] <borsten> so i cant use wine anyway?
[08:53] <stdin> underdog5004: the redirect wont work (as it needs root), should use "echo Thing | sudo tee -a /place/to/append/to
[08:53] <pontus> Speaking of updates. I really think there should be a note with each update motivating the need for it. Maybe there is? Am I missing it?
[08:53] <stdin> borsten: no, it's only available on x86
[08:53] <underdog5004> stdin, whoops, I'm just being a parrot. That's what I used for my server...
[08:54] <borsten> stdin: is there any trick, that i can use the 32-bit-wine?
[08:55] <june_> borsten: are you on ppc?
[08:55] <underdog5004> !chroot | borsten
[08:55] <ubotu> borsten: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[08:55] <stdin> borsten: you can use a 32bin chroot
[08:55] <stdin> *32bit
[08:55] <june_> amd64 is x86 compliant, i don't see why he couldn't run WINE
[08:55] <borsten> june: im on amd 64
[08:56] <stdin> june_: because there is not amd64 package for it
[08:56] <borsten> rest: ill have a try
[08:56] <june_> stdin: so? why can't he use the 386 package?
[08:57] <stdin> june_: never tried it, so I don't know
[08:57] <june_> does apt not allow you to download binary packages for different arches?
[08:59] <borsten> seems not, ive had already some problems with skype because of this
[08:59] <june_> does the tutorial here: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade  work well for upgrading kubuntu?  iirc the ubuntu update reccomended using the update manager to do the upgrading
[09:03] <stdin> june_: yeah, it works, or it wouldn't be there
[09:03] <stdin> june_: and you can't use the update manager, as it's not installed on Kubuntu, it's a Gnome/GTK app
[09:04] <june_> stdin: yeah so?  you can still install it
[09:05] <stdin> june_: yeah, but, like I said, it's not installed by default, and some people don't want to have to install all the extra libs and synaptic package to use it
[09:05] <stdin> june_: btw, I do have it, as I perfir synaptic over adept
[09:05] <june_> i already installed synaptic, i loathe adept
[09:05] <june_> yeah
[09:05] <stdin> snap :P
[09:06] <stdin> and I only use synaptic when I'm not using apt-get/aptitude
[09:07] <bill> hello
[09:07] <june_> yeah, normally i use GNOME, but this is my mother's computer, and i figured KDE would suit her better (XP was bugged beyond recognition) and i got a nice trial by fire with adept dying installing the sun-java5-jre packages
[09:08] <stdin> june_: yeah, I think that is fixed in later releases of adept, but I still hate it
[09:08] <june_> honestly though i thought packages were required to have non-interactive installations
[09:08] <Jucato> stdin: yeah it has been fixed in Adept for feisty. have you seen the screenshot in Riddell's blog?
[09:09] <Jucato> it even looks better than the terminal in synaptic
[09:09] <stdin> Jucato: probably, but I'm in feisty now, and I think I did install java in adept to see, and I could accept it
[09:10] <parkerw207> guys anyone know why firefox takes so long to load for me ?
[09:10] <stdin> june_: some packages (multiverse ones mostly) need you to read and explicitly agree to a licence
[09:10] <parkerw207> it sits there saying its loading , then it just dissapears
[09:10] <devilsadvocate> parkerw207, firefox usually takes a bit of time to load, esp. if youre low on ram
[09:10] <june_> parkerw207: try konqueror?
[09:11] <parkerw207> i shouldnt be i have 512 ram
[09:11] <june_> i'm not exactly a fan, but it should do fine for now
[09:11] <devilsadvocate> i was able to install the upgrade to linux-restricted modules
[09:12] <mneisen> devilsadvocate: How did you do that?
[09:12] <mneisen> devilsadvocate: I am curious, as I have failed to do so.
[09:12] <devilsadvocate> it just did it by itself. the other two kernel related packages have been held back, though
[09:13] <mneisen> oic
[09:13] <mneisen> I am not that adventurous.
[09:14] <mneisen> I fear that when I update one part of the kernel related packages (f.e. the restrcited modules), my system will not com eup again.
[09:16] <pgdown> do I need arts?
[09:16] <pgdown> is it even necessary?
[09:16] <mneisen> pgdown: Only if you want to hear something ... :-D
[09:17] <pgdown> but wouldn alsa take care of that?
[09:17] <stdin> !arts
[09:17] <ubotu> arts: sound system from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB
[09:17] <stdin> arts used alsa
[09:17] <stdin> *uses
[09:17] <pgdown> what uses arts for sound, though?
[09:18] <stdin> all the KDE apps
[09:18] <stdin> and system notifications
[09:19] <Jucato> KDE uses aRts for system notifications
[09:19] <Jucato> you can set KDE to use a different player *BUT* you shouldn't uninstall arts packages
[09:19] <xjpm100x> could someone help me?\
[09:19] <mneisen> xjpm100x: depends on your problem ... :-)
[09:19] <xjpm100x> uh, well I'm trying to get Beryl to work
[09:20] <pgdown> so, if I were to remove arts, I'd lose system notification sound + sounds from apps that are arts-only?
[09:20] <mneisen> !beryl | xjpm100x
[09:20] <ubotu> xjpm100x: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:20] <stdin> xjpm100x: there is also #beryl
[09:21] <xjpm100x> I know what it is, got it installed, it just doesnt work
[09:21] <xjpm100x> I read the wiki page, followed every step on it
[09:21] <stdin> xjpm100x: what's the graphics hardware you have?
[09:22] <xjpm100x> ATI Radeon 9600
[09:22] <xjpm100x> 256MB
[09:22] <stdin> xjpm100x: and do you have the binary drivers installed, and XGL ?
[09:24] <pgdown> so, how can I find the error output from x?
[09:24] <xjpm100x> yes, installed everything I need
[09:24] <stdin> pgdown: in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:24] <stdin> xjpm100x: and do you have XGL running ?
[09:25] <june_> is using aptitude for a dist-upgrade a decent idea?
[09:25] <stdin> june_: yeah, helped me with some dependencies with dapper -> edgy before
[09:26] <june_> stdin: yeah i'm goin from dapper to edgy here
[09:26] <june_> it gave the solution a -486 though
[09:26] <june_> we'll see how it turns out
[09:26] <xjpm100x> I guess, have no idea to be honest, lmao
[09:26] <xjpm100x> I havent fucked with linux for a whiel and seen some vids or Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy with Beyrl and figured I could get back into it
[09:27] <xjpm100x> of*
[09:27] <stdin> june_: one thing to look out for, it will remove all the xserver-xorg-driver-* packages, they have been renamed to xserver-xorg-video-*
[09:27] <june_> xjpm100x: what's your problem?
[09:27] <june_> stdin: thanks, i've got integrated intel on this comp, is the xorg driver still in a separate package?
[09:28] <stdin> xjpm100x: there is a guide to XGL here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[09:28] <stdin> june_: yeah, it's in xserver-xorg-video-i810 i think, but xserver-xorg-video-all (installed by default) depends on it
[09:28] <june_> thanks
[09:29] <june_> i'm thinking of installing beryl on this computer, dunno how well it'll do
[09:29] <stdin> june_: I have intergrated intel, works great with aiglx
[09:30] <june_> yeah i
[09:30] <june_> 'm not sure how old this one is though
[09:31] <stdin> june_: I have an 845G, it's about 5 or 6 years old
[09:32] <june_> ah cool then, although i just looked at lspci and it said "VGA compatible device" and it said the manufacturer was VIA, so i dunno
[09:33] <sYnie> hello
[09:34] <sYnie> does somebody know, if there is any pdf-viewer, which can edit 'editable textfields' ?
[09:34] <mneisen> sYnie: acroread does.
[09:35] <stdin> june_: one tip, you can put something like "VideoRam 65536" to the "Section "Device" " section, to get it to use 64mb as video ram
[09:35] <stdin> june_: also have a look at "man via"
[09:37] <sYnie> thanks alot :)
[09:37] <stdin> :)
[09:38] <Phlosten> anyone had a prob with a thumb drive reporting its full but you cant see any files on it?
[09:40] <deathnote> how do i find out more info of a website? like its country etc..nslookup?
[09:40] <deathnote> how do i find out more info of a website? like its country etc..nslookup?
[09:40] <stdin> use whois
[09:40] <stdin> !whois
[09:40] <ubotu> whois: the GNU whois client. In component main, is optional. Version 4.7.14 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 272 kB
[09:40] <stdin> and host
[09:41] <stdin> !host
[09:41] <ubotu> host: utility for querying DNS servers. In component universe, is extra. Version 20000331-9 (edgy), package size 69 kB, installed size 168 kB
[09:41] <darkparadox> can anyone explain to a total linux noob how to install .rpm files on kubuntu lol
[09:41] <stdin> !rpm
[09:41] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[09:41] <darkparadox> hm, i was trying to install my nvidia drivers, and i downloaded the xorg sdk that i thought i was supposed to..it was rpm
[09:42] <stdin> !nvidia
[09:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:42] <darkparadox> so now i suppose i'm totally lost again lmao
[09:42] <june_> darkparadox: no use the *.run installer off of nvidia's website, or use lupine's repository
[09:42] <june_> darkparadox: what card do you have?
[09:42] <darkparadox> 7600 GT
[09:43] <june_> darkparadox: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-9746.html
[09:43] <darkparadox> yea i went in to recovery mode..
[09:43] <darkparadox> and did sh filename.whatever.run and it said it needed xorg sdk
[09:44] <june_> oh, well you need to sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`   (those are backtics not single quotes) but it all should be described at the link ubotu gave
[09:44] <darkparadox> alright thanks i'll try
[09:44] <june_> yeah, that's not the xorg sdk, but you realyl shouldn't need that
[09:45] <darkparadox> i copied what you said and pasted it and it said..
[09:45] <darkparadox> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:45] <darkparadox> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:45] <stdin> close adept?
[09:45] <june_> darkparadox: do you have synaptic or adept open right now? the need to be closed
[09:46] <june_> they*
[09:46] <darkparadox> installed mesa-common-dev libglu1-mesa-dev libgl1-mesa-dev apparently
[09:46] <darkparadox> and thansk, yea synaptic was opn
[09:47] <darkparadox> but the drivers said i needed sdk, what should i do about that oor?
[09:47] <tazz> hey guys i had a qustion, i installed kubuntu 6.06 and distupgraded, so in /etc/apt/sources.list can i replace dapper with edgy?
[09:47] <june_> try it again now, i don't know of any sdk
[09:48] <june_> there might be an xorg-dev package, but i never needed it
[09:48] <stdin> !upgrade | tazz
[09:48] <ubotu> tazz: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[09:48] <darkparadox> alright i guess i'll try and if not i'll be back lol, thank you guys
[09:48] <june_> darkparadox: well one sec
[09:48] <tazz> thanks stdin
[09:48] <june_> you don't hafta go into recovery mode
[09:48] <darkparadox> alright
[09:49] <june_> you can ctrl+alt+f1 and then login (username and password)
[09:49] <darkparadox> i tried to install from just terminal and it said i needed to exit x server and stuff
[09:49] <june_> then you can do "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[09:49] <june_> then after you've installed the drivers "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start"
[09:49] <june_> and startx
[09:49] <stdin> not startx, that's why you have a DM
[09:50] <parkerw207> stdin is there a major upgrade available ?
[09:50] <stdin> parkerw207: what do you mean?
[09:50] <darkparadox> alright i'll try ti then, brb
[09:50] <stdin> parkerw207: to Kubuntu, or to a package?
[09:50] <parkerw207> stdin i keep getting the little sign that i have not upgraded adept
[09:50] <parkerw207> in the corner
[09:51] <parkerw207> the kernel upgrades
[09:51] <stdin> watch for the message...
[09:51] <stdin> parkerw207: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[09:51] <parkerw207> thanks stdin :)
[09:52] <stdin> parkerw207: no problem, so many people have been asking, I've made a script to post that message :P
[09:52] <pgdown> what does it mean if you can connect to your router config page, but not load websites? dns problem?
[09:53] <june_> pgdown: in the console try pinging www.google.com
[09:53] <june_> "ping www.google.com"
[09:53] <pgdown> june_ not a problem im having...just trying to answer a friends question
[09:54] <stdin> pgdown: if that don't work check "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" (the IP of google.com) if you can, it's a dns issue
[09:54] <parkerw207> hehe stdin
[09:54] <june_> pgdown: ah, are you communicating on AIM? if so it's probably DNS, since he's already connected to the aol.oscar server
[09:54] <crazy_penguin> Hello to everyone!
[09:56] <pgdown> thanks
[09:56] <_6StringKng_> so....my login screen resolution is different than that of when I login, anyway I could change that?
[09:56] <parkerw207> hello <crazy_penguin>
[09:56] <_6StringKng_> like, after x server is started and everything
[09:58] <karmikaze> anyone here use packet injection, specifically on madwifi drivers?
[09:58] <stdin> parkerw207: you know there is tab-completion in konversation, so you can type part of a nickname and press tab to compleat it. eg park<TAB> goes to parkerw207
[09:58] <Jucato> !tab
[09:58] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[09:59] <karmikaze> btw netgear w311tge is a great pci wifi card :D worked right ouf of the box! :D
[09:59] <stdin> standard in most irc clients :)
[09:59] <geniusvicks> how do I disable transparency ? Every program is transparent I cant read anything
[09:59] <^sahibecek^> where to find sourcee 4 kernell & gcc compiler 4  kubuntu 6.06 ??
[09:59] <karmikaze> geniusvicks: are you using beryl??
[09:59] <stdin> !source
[09:59] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[10:00] <geniusvicks> karmikaze, no
[10:00] <karmikaze> umm how do you have transparency geniusvicks
[10:00] <stdin> !kernel source
[10:00] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[10:00] <pgdown> I think someone should figure out how to preload firefox...like how you can preload konqueror.
[10:00] <geniusvicks> karmikaze, I hav no idea. I adjusted some settings yesterday. NO transparency then. TOday, now I switch on my pC everything is transparent
[10:01] <karmikaze> thats kinda odd.. ive never heard of that happening. usually it takes a bit of effort to get true transparency going :P  are you still in kde?
[10:02] <geniusvicks> karmikaze, Ya. I went to systemsettings -> Appearance. THere I have disabled translucency too
[10:03] <Jucato> geniusvicks: System Settings -> Behavior -> look for the Translucency tab
[10:04] <geniusvicks> Jucato, thanks. Its opaque now.
[10:05] <Jucato> no problem
[10:06] <geniusvicks> Jucato, does the percentage stand for opacity or translucency ?
[10:06] <Jucato> opacity.
[10:06] <Jucato> 100% = fully opaque
[10:07] <geniusvicks> For Beryl do we need a grafix card?
[10:08] <stdin> geniusvicks: no, intel chips work well
[10:08] <ssvsrkr> hi
[10:08] <Jucato> geniusvicks: you basically need hardware 3D acceleration
[10:08] <Jucato> that depends on the drivers for your video card
[10:09] <geniusvicks> stdin, is 512 MB Ram and Celeron 2.4 ghz, intel 845gv mboard enough ?
[10:09] <stdin> geniusvicks: sounds like my system before I added some ram, and yeah, that that will work
[10:10] <geniusvicks> stdin, thanks
[10:10] <stdin> geniusvicks: are you on dapper or edgy ?
[10:10] <geniusvicks> stdin, edgy
[10:11] <stdin> geniusvicks: it's quite simple then, just follow http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX
[10:13] <geniusvicks> stdin, should I use aiglx or xgl ?
[10:13] <ady33> Hi does anyone know of a vista style sidebar for kubuntu?. Something that shows cpu/memory percentage etc.. I have had a look with my packet manager but not found anything yet... thanks
[10:14] <stdin> geniusvicks: aiglx, it's faster and more advanced. that and xgl sux on intel chips :P
[10:14] <rovern> is there any way to force a kdialog window to show on top?
[10:15] <geniusvicks> stdin, thanks. I misunderstood what was written on the page. I thought only ATI cards can use aiglx.
[10:15] <stdin> rovern: right click the title bar -> advanced -> keep above otheres
[10:15] <rovern> stdin: no, to force it from the script, so that it may appear on top anytime with no manual intervention
[10:16] <stdin> geniusvicks: nope, in fact it's the opposed, ATI cards are the only ones that can't use aiglx
[10:17] <stdin> rovern: yeah, use kstart, like "kstart --ontop kdialog --msgbox hello"
[10:18] <rovern> stdin: thanks a lot
[10:18] <stdin> rovern: no problem :)
[10:18] <parkerw207> park<tab>
[10:18] <stdin> parkerw207: <tab> = the tab key :)
[10:19] <parkerw207> haha i am too used to html tags!
[10:19] <stdin> heh :)
[10:20] <alfatau> hello, i've a problem: i had to reinstall my linux box, and now i'm not able to get standard C headers' manpages, e.g. 'man stdlib.h' doesn't work. what have i to do?
[10:23] <stdin> alfatau: /usr/include/stdlib.h is in libc6-dev and the man page is in manpages-posix-dev
[10:25] <alfatau> stdin: what apt source to install manpages-posix-dev ??
[10:25] <stdin> !info manpages-posix-dev
[10:25] <ubotu> manpages-posix-dev: Manual pages about using a POSIX system for development. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.16-1 (edgy), package size 1394 kB, installed size 5112 kB
[10:25] <stdin> alfatau: it's in multiverse
[10:29] <delmp> lut
[10:30] <stdin> !fr
[10:30] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:30] <Sam_> ntenv
[10:30] <Sam_> delmp@st3b1:~$ q
[10:30] <Sam_> bash: q : commande introuvable
[10:30] <Sam_> delmp@st3b1:~$ printenv casroot
[10:30] <Sam_> delmp@st3b1:~$
[10:30] <eMaX_> what does it mean if linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic are being "held back" on sudo apt-get upgrade?
[10:30] <alfatau> stdin: my apt-source: deb http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse --> i don't have that package :(
[10:30] <Jucato> !pastebin | Sam_
[10:30] <ubotu> Sam_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:31] <stdin> eMaX_: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[10:31] <Jucato> eMaX_: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[10:31] <Jucato> rawr
[10:31] <stdin> Jucato: heh, beet you :)
[10:31] <Jucato> you *beat* me?
[10:31] <stdin> alfatau: you need the main edgy one, not edgy-backports
[10:31] <Jucato> :D
[10:32] <stdin> Jucato: ok, I was faster in my responce :P
[10:32] <alfatau> stdin: ah, ok! thank you! i'm trying
[10:32] <Jucato> stdin: only because you had something copied from me :P
[10:33] <Jucato> but it's CC anyway lol
[10:33] <june_> darkparadox: sorry it won't let me PM because i didn't register my nick, and apparently someone is already using my name
[10:33] <stdin> Jucato: yeah, maybe I should add a "(Copyright Jucato 2007)" to the end? :P
[10:33] <Jucato> hell no
[10:33] <Jucato> I don't want to be held liable lol
[10:33] <stdin> heh
[10:34] <june_> hey my dist-upgrade is 93% downloaded haha
[10:35] <alfatau> stdin: yeah! thank you!
[10:36] <stdin> alfatau: you're welcome :)
[10:38] <mbelleza> how.to change my nickname in irc
[10:38] <june_> mbelleza: /nick NewNick
[10:38] <mbelleza> tanx june_
[10:39] <Alarm> hello . i want to add a basic authentication on my apache server. but somehow it doesnt really work. although i am asked for a user/pass and enter the correct ones, it keeps asking me again and again. i created a password file with htpasswd -c  , under /usr/local/etc/httpd . my document directory is /var/www (doesnt have any index html in it. just files. my apache2.conf file looks like that: http://www.phpriot.com/4939 . read many times the apach
[10:39] <Alarm> e tutorial but somehow i didnt manage to fix that  (i am not using .htaccess file, i have put the the basic authentication lines in a <directory> in the config file
[10:39] <june_> no problem, what client are you using?  there are usually "easier" ways as well
[10:39] <alfatau> stdin: can i ask another question?
[10:39] <june_> Alarm: #apache is a more appropriate channel, you're more likely to get an answer there
[10:39] <stdin> alfatau: sure
[10:40] <Alarm> june_,  for a reason that i dont know i am banned ,
[10:40] <Alarm> i guess my domain or .gr is banned
[10:40] <june_> Alarm: geeze, sorry, well unfortunately i don't have an answer for you
[10:40] <parkerw207> why is my linux getting so slow stdin?
[10:41] <parkerw207> well my pc lol
[10:41] <stdin> wow, #apache has a long ban list :P
[10:42] <stdin> parkerw207: what do you mean by slow?
[10:42] <parkerw207> it keeps getting laggy
[10:42] <parkerw207> takin ages to load everything
[10:42] <stdin> maybe you have a lot of services running
[10:43] <parkerw207> ;S
[10:43] <june_> Alarm: you might try changing your nick just in case its your nick that's banned
[10:43] <stdin> parkerw207: take a look in System Settings -> Advanced (if on edgy) -> Service Manager
[10:44] <parkerw207> lol it crashed
[10:44] <parkerw207> i dont have many things runing :S
[10:45] <alfatau> stdin: nothing, i solved myself... i needed another package. thanks a lot, bye!
[10:46] <june_> Alarm: i'm asking about getting you unbanned
[10:47] <Alarm> nice of u :) i am asking on apache in undernet servers
[10:48] <june_> Alarm you should be good to go now
[10:48] <Alarm> lovely, thanks
[10:51] <bjacob> running feisty herd 3 here. is it safe to do a full upgrade now? or is the problem with libapt-pkg-libc6.4 still there? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=354865
[10:52] <stdin> bjacob: feisty questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[10:52] <bjacob> ah ok :)
[10:55] <parkerw207> when the new kubuntu comes out , do we get to upgrade ?
[10:56] <premier_> how can I mount a .iso image as a drive?
[10:56] <stdin> !iso
[10:56] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[11:02] <darkparadox> uh ok lol..can't get video drivers to install
[11:03] <crube> Is it possible to add amarok equalizer presets from an eqf file?
[11:04] <premier_> crap, I think I screwed up my /media folder
[11:05] <parkerw207> stdin: Do you know where i would find document templates for openoffice ? and is there a better office suit , not that oen office isnt good becuase its awesome!
[11:05] <premier_> I tried sudo mount ... /media/smac
[11:05] <premier_> but it said it couldnt find /media/smac
[11:05] <premier_> how do I do that?
[11:06] <stdin> parkerw207: they should be included, I think, you can ask in #openoffice.org , but as to a "better" suit, I don't know, there are some others, like koffice, but don't know if they ate "better"
[11:07] <stdin> premier_: maybe: sudo mkdir /media/smac
[11:08] <parkerw207> thanks stdin
[11:08] <stdin> np :)
[11:09] <stdin> crube: you can ask in #amarok , if it's not dead, or in #kde
[11:10] <parkerw207> stdin: there is only like 3 people in that room and they aint even answering lmfao hehe
[11:15] <stdin> parkerw207: http://documentation.openoffice.org/Samples_Templates/User/template_2_x/index.html
[11:16] <stdin> and http://documentation.openoffice.org/Samples_Templates/
[11:16] <hansen> aptitude says there are new packages available for kernel, modules etc, but can't download them. Something broken or the mirrors just not completely updated yet?
[11:16] <mneisen> hansen: same problem over here .
[11:17] <mneisen> hansen: The problem has existed for at least 24h.
[11:17] <hansen> mneisen: thanks, so it's not my installation that is fscked
[11:17] <pinheiro> Riddell: ping
[11:17] <mneisen> hansen: at least there is another possible cause ... :-D
[11:17] <hansen> :)
[11:18] <stdin> hansen: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[11:18] <parkerw207> thanks stdin
[11:18] <stdin> parkerw207: :-)
[11:19] <hansen> stdin: thanks
[11:19] <june_> !via
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <mneisen> stdin: is it save to update those kernel-related modules that can be downloaded?
[11:19] <stdin> mneisen: should be
[11:20] <mneisen> stdin: thanks.
[11:27] <lenscape> adept is confusing me. It says I have 4 updates but 3 are marked as 'no change'. What does that mean?
[11:27] <stdin> lenscape: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[11:27] <lenscape> stdin: Thanks for the quick response. Much appreciated
[11:28] <stdin> lenscape: it's been a common question over the last day or so :)
[11:28] <lenscape> heh
[11:28] <mneisen> stdin: Shouldn't we add a factoid to ubotu ...?
[11:29] <Jucato> not necessary to do so, if the situation is (should be) temporary
[11:29] <parkerw207> where would i find a list of trick for irc >
[11:29] <parkerw207> ?*
[11:29] <stdin> mneisen: maybe, I (and Jucato) have just made a script and a command alias to show the message
[11:29] <mneisen> stdin: OK, that is just as well.
[11:30] <Jucato> hey, what do I have to do w/ it?
[11:30] <stdin> I just type "/fix Name" and it prints: Name: BlahBlah....
[11:30] <hansen> stdin, mneisen: sorry if I asked a faq that was 1000 times already today :)
[11:30] <mneisen> Jucato: Well, I ran into this problem before, not just yet. There have been repeatedly held-back packages that disappeared after a few days.
[11:30] <mneisen> hansen: no harm done.
[11:30] <mneisen> hansen: I am not quite so expertish in this area.
[11:32] <nalioth> Jucato? never!
[11:33] <Jucato> nalioth: sssh... :)
[11:34] <hansen> apropos my reason to upgrade the kernel: Did any of you manage to get a Intel 3945ABG wireless to work with the current kernel/drivers?
[11:36] <xsacha> woah, what's this about ubuntu teaming up with linspire? Starting with the Ubuntu 7.04 release in April, Ubuntu users will be able to use the Linspire CNR (Click and Run) software delivery system, which will give them one-click access to commercial programs and proprietary multimedia CODECs and drivers.
[11:37] <hansen> to me it looks like everything is set up correctly out of the box (mechanism for downloading firmware to device and start the userspace daemon when the kernel module is loaded), but still it wont connect to my AP
[11:37] <parkerw207> is gimp any good ?
[11:38] <stdin> yeah, but it's not the easiest app to pickup
[11:38] <hansen> parkerw207: depends on your needs
[11:38] <parkerw207> ermm well i do graphics design
[11:39] <parkerw207> so i need something similar to photoshop
[11:39] <mneisen> parkerw207: You can set up gimp to look and act just like photoshop
[11:39] <stdin> then gimp is for you
[11:39] <hansen> it's the best photoshop replacement available for linux
[11:39] <parkerw207> how do i do that ?
[11:39] <Jucato> parkerw207: you will have to test them out yourself
[11:39] <hansen> but it is not photoshop :)
[11:39] <parkerw207> yeah i will do , i will test it
[11:39] <parkerw207> didnt photoshop start off as an open source project :S
[11:39] <Jucato> parkerw207: try both the GIMP and Krita. use what you like. or use both if you want
[11:40] <parkerw207> i thought some guys in the movie industry starting it >
[11:40] <hansen> for me the big drawback is that it can't do >8 bit per channel editing
[11:40] <parkerw207> ooo
[11:40] <parkerw207> another things
[11:40] <hansen> feature-wise Krita looks great, but I never really got it work reliably
[11:40] <parkerw207> why is my audio play back choppy ?
[11:40] <mneisen> parkerw207: Take a look at http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241
[11:41] <parkerw207> ok thanks mneisen
[11:42] <hansen> if you want some really high quality image editing software and aren't afraid of an (ahem) "alternative" UI, try this: http://www.vips.ecs.soton.ac.uk/index.php?title=VIPS
[11:42] <parkerw207> how do i find out if the gimp i just got from adept is the latest ?
[11:42] <hansen> the author describes it as "It aims to be about half-way between Photoshop and Excel" :)
[11:42] <mray> When I "apt-get upgrade" 2 packages are kept back (linux-image-386, linux-restricted-modules-386) - what shall I do now?
[11:42] <Jucato> parkerw207: Help -> About GIMP, then compare it to the one in the official website
[11:43] <Jucato> stdin: ^^^^^
[11:43] <mneisen> parkerw207: Well, if you did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gimp, then you have the latest version available for (K)Ubuntu
[11:43] <parkerw207> ooo ok then thanks!
[11:43] <mneisen> stdin: Time for your script again .-D
[11:43] <parkerw207> lol
[11:43] <Jucato> mray: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[11:43] <parkerw207> where do i go to help out in open source ?
[11:44] <stdin> Jucato: huh, I step away for 2 seconds and someone asks :P
[11:44] <Jucato> stdin: that was more than 2 seconds
[11:44] <parkerw207> i'm not brilliant at anything particulary but i amdoing an ict diploma and i am doig well so i must have some skills to help out :)
[11:44] <mray> Jucato: Thank you for theinformation -that wa a nice hint!
[11:45] <Jucato> parkerw207: 1) take note of what you can and cannot do/contribute then 2) go to the project's website, IRC channel, mailing list or forum and ask around
[11:45] <parkerw207> ooo i see :)
[11:45] <stdin> and, of course, there is no cancel button
[11:46] <parkerw207> i shall do.... hm i am good at graphics design and websites really
[11:46] <mray> parkerw207: Did you try Krita? It has grown, and already implements many features like GIMP, but with a nicer GUI - "I think"
[11:46] <parkerw207> yeah its pritty nice!
[11:47] <parkerw207> i am not good at programming , only ones were being tuaght is sql and vb.net :O
[11:47] <mray> i'm a designer myself, too - feeling like an alien in these chatrooms sometimes :D
[11:47] <MidMark> hi, from today I have a kernel updates that breaks things!
[11:47] <Jucato> parkerw207: there are many possible areas of contribution, not just programming: documentation, artwork, bug hunting/triaging, user support (like this), etc
[11:47] <Jucato> MidMark: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[11:48] <MidMark> yeah thanx
[11:48] <Jucato> MidMark: it actually doesn't break things... because it doesn't even download anything
[11:48] <parkerw207> yeah i guess!
[11:48] <parkerw207> but i do want to be good t programming , i just find it a tad confusing lol
[11:48] <parkerw207> specially when you have a idiot of a teacher lol
[11:48] <Jucato> parkerw207: start studying. no one's stopping you :)
[11:48] <MidMark> Jucato: it breaks all updates ;)
[11:48] <Riddell> pinheiro: hi
[11:49] <MidMark> in the sense that I cannot download them
[11:49] <parkerw207> he just gives us sheet of code to copy and doesnt explain what they do lol
[11:49] <stdin> MidMark: just ignore them
[11:49] <parkerw207> it make me luagh
[11:49] <parkerw207> i'm pritty good at sql though :)
[11:49] <Jucato> parkerw207: I've learned long ago never to rely only on instructors, to do my own research, etc.
[11:49] <parkerw207> Jucato: i've come to realise that myself
[11:50] <parkerw207> how do i get an sql server all up and running on linux ?
[11:50] <stdin> !mysql
[11:50] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:50] <parkerw207> ok i may sound strange now , but we use oracle
[11:50] <parkerw207> basically just a website where we type the sql out
[11:51] <parkerw207> what program do i need that does the same thing :S
[11:51] <stdin> !oracle
[11:51] <ubotu> If you -must- install oracle .... here's a good place to start: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html
[11:51] <parkerw207> ooo gosh
[11:52] <parkerw207> i tried to do that once and it was coming up with all sorts of errors lol
[11:52] <Ippatsu> Hi all! I can't configure Local Network File Sharing in Kubuntu using System Settings -> Sharing because the configuration page is disabled, how can I resolve? (screenshot @ http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8566/sharingkubuntu1iw0.png )
[11:52] <parkerw207> is there anything else i could use instead?
[12:00] <parkerw207> whas the shortcut key to get a terminal to come up?
[12:01] <Jucato> if you're in Konqueror, F4.
[12:01] <Jucato> if you mean just a general Konsole, you can set your own shortcut for it
[12:01] <parkerw207> thankyou very much
[12:01] <stdin> alt-f2, konsole :P
[12:02] <parkerw207> ooooo oracle xe is huge loL!
[12:02] <Jucato> nooo
[12:02] <Jucato> no more script kiddy...
[12:03] <stdin> heh, you'll have to do it yourself now
[12:03] <stdin> or put it in the topic Jucato
[12:03] <Jucato> I'm not *that* powerful :P
[12:03] <stdin> not that anyone actually reads that
[12:04] <Jucato> yeah
[12:04] <stdin> Jucato: topic is open, anyone can change it
[12:04] <parkerw207> is its true that linux is hard to hack ?
[12:04] <Jucato> stdin: nope it isn't
[12:04] <parkerw207> it isnt :O
[12:04] <Jucato> parkerw207: please know the difference between hack and crack
[12:05] <parkerw207> jucator
[12:05] <Jucato> or at least start knowing the the difference
[12:05] <parkerw207> Jucato: the difference is ?
[12:05] <Jucato> hacker = programmer; cracker = some guy (programmer or not) who tries to break in systems
[12:05] <DjDarkman> hy ,how can I conenct to a dial up broadhand connection?
[12:05] <parkerw207> ok then
[12:06] <parkerw207> so is it hard to crack linux?
[12:06] <stdin> Jucato: yeah, it's open :P
[12:06] <DjDarkman> I just got my very own internet connection
[12:06] <DjDarkman> but I can`t connect to it
[12:08] <stdin> right. now I am gone (before I get scolded)
[12:10] <mray> DjDarkman: you want to dial yourself with pppoe?
[12:10] <mray> or do you have a router and WLAN etc?...
[12:10] <DjDarkman> yes mray
[12:10] <DjDarkman> ppoe
[12:10] <mray> DjDarkman: i think there is a tool that is called "KPPP"
[12:10] <DjDarkman> yes but its so hard to understand
[12:10] <mray> in your startmenu under "internet"
[12:11] <DjDarkman> I know ,but I don`t know how to make it work this way
[12:11] <DjDarkman> how can I make it use pppoe?
[12:11] <mray> don't you have the possibility to use a router?
[12:11] <DjDarkman> no
[12:12] <mray> i think it uses pppoe - it is just a Graphical user interface for it (i assume)
[12:12] <mray> what did you try so far - and why doesn't it work?
[12:13] <DjDarkman> kppp
[12:13] <mray> or "how" doesn't it work :P
[12:13] <mray> yes.
[12:13] <DjDarkman> it doesn`t let me complete the username and password fields
[12:13] <mray> besides - how come you are chatting with me!! LIAR!!!
[12:13] <mray> ;)
[12:13] <DjDarkman> from evil OS madar_
[12:13] <DjDarkman> mray
[12:13] <mray> ^^
[12:13] <june_> !s3
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[12:14] <DjDarkman> so mray do you know what Ihave to set it kppp to make it work?
[12:14] <DjDarkman> command line stuff is good too
[12:14] <june_> anyone know if it's possible to get GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two on an S3 video card with the openChrome drivers?
[12:14] <mray> i remember that the login phrases on linux somehow were different
[12:15] <mray> in what country do you try to use ppp?
[12:16] <DjDarkman> ROMANIA
[12:16] <mray> well, ok i'm not from romania, but i think you want to dial in to a DSL connection right?
[12:17] <Jucato> !ro
[12:17] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[12:17] <ubuntu_> w
[12:20] <kuw88> hi to all
[12:21] <kuw88> where can i foud real player fro ubuntu
[12:21] <kuw88> ?
[12:24] <oliver__> hi, .....
[12:25] <Linux_Galore> !real
[12:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:25] <Paulo> hello all
[12:25] <[knap] > hi
[12:26] <Paulo> can i get a little help with apt please?
[12:26] <[knap] > just aks the question
[12:26] <Paulo> The following packages have been kept back:
[12:26] <[knap] > don't ask if you can ask
[12:26] <Paulo>   linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386
[12:27] <Linux_Galore> Paulo: means the package isnt the one for your kernel
[12:27] <_6StringKng_> when I get to the loging screen in Kubuntu my screen resolution is different and the refresh rate of my monitor is 60Hz, any way to make it the same as when I actually login?
[12:27] <hansen> [2007-02-09 11:46]  <Jucato> MidMark: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[12:27] <_6StringKng_> login screen*
[12:27] <Paulo> but when i try do a "apt-get dist-upgrade" they will not install
[12:27] <hansen> Paulo: ^
[12:28] <Paulo> Linux_Galore: thanks for answering
[12:28] <Linux_Galore> Paulo: because its not the package for your kernel, you can dist upgrade all week it doesnt means it will update something thats not a matching package
[12:28] <oliver__> hey, that solved my problem with updating too, Thanks
[12:29] <Paulo> then why is it showing this if it is not for my kernel
[12:30] <Linux_Galore> Paulo: Im not on your machined so i havednt got a clue what of the 20,000 odd packages you have installed
[12:30] <_6StringKng_> could someone help me with my prob?
[12:31] <Gandalf> ciao c' qualcuno?
[12:31] <_6StringKng_> when I get to the login screen its a different resolution and the refresh rate of my monitor is 60Hz, anyways I could make it the same resolution as when I login, same for the refresh rate
[12:31] <Linux_Galore> _6StringKng_: ?? the login screen is when X starts, before that X isnt running
[12:32] <_6StringKng_> no, x is running
[12:32] <Paulo> !it
[12:32] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:32] <_6StringKng_> just not logged in
[12:32] <Gandalf> ok sorry
[12:32] <Gandalf> ^^
[12:32] <_6StringKng_> not like terminal or anything
[12:32] <Linux_Galore> _6StringKng_: I know X is running i just said that
[12:32] <_6StringKng_> shit my bad, read it wrong somehow, lmao
[12:33] <Linux_Galore> _6StringKng_: what im trying to tell you is before the login X isnt running
[12:33] <_6StringKng_> I know that
[12:33] <_6StringKng_> but when I actually enter my info and login, the resolution and refresh change
[12:33] <parkerw207> Guys could i get a bit of help with oracle/
[12:34] <_6StringKng_> refresh rate*
[12:34] <parkerw207> i've installed it using apt but i need to know how to run it :S
[12:34] <Linux_Galore> _6StringKng_: it shouldnt, that is weird,  run   systemsettings  and check
[12:34] <parkerw207> oo wait i found it lol
[12:34] <[knap] > is there any bug related to static ip address in conection manager in kubuntu 7.04 herd3 amd64 ?
[12:35] <[knap] > can't connect to my wireless router
[12:35] <[knap] > only when using dhcp
[12:36] <_6StringKng_> no, its fine
[12:36] <parkerw207> ppp now it cant load it :S
[12:36] <[knap] > so probably it's some configuration
[12:36] <[knap] > my fault
[12:37] <Linux_Galore> _6StringKng_: or just run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   and answer the questions
[12:37] <parkerw207> stdin: you there ?
[12:44] <Flamzart> hello im wondering if anyone can help me im trying to get a list of the latest packages using sudo apt-get update but gets time outs all over the shop
[12:46] <praetor> using KDE, I added another panel so that I have two panels, one across the top, and one across the bottom. However, I am unable to resize the 2nd panel that I added
[12:46] <praetor> if I right click on the 2nd panel, select configure and change anything, the changes are always made on the first panel
[12:46] <kuw88> the web java not work
[12:46] <kuw88> ?
[12:48] <Linux_Galore> Flamzart: tells me your sources are wrong and it hanging because it cant find or connect
[12:48] <Linux_Galore> the server
[12:49] <Flamzart> k
[12:49] <Linux_Galore> praetor: aah you can but you need to look closer,  you may have to log out and back in for it to appear as a drop down option
[12:51] <Linux_Galore> praetor: what should ahppend is when you go into Configure  the "Main panel" box has a built in drop down that allows you to select the external panel but it only works after kicker is restarted
[12:51] <Flamzart> how do i changes sources havent changed anything with it after fresh install
[12:51] <[knap] > probably the servers are down
[12:51] <[knap] > chose another one
[12:52] <Linux_Galore> Flamzart: start   adept  and click on View -> Manage Repositories
[12:52] <kuw88> how can i know about my sound card driver
[12:52] <kuw88> ?
[12:53] <Linux_Galore> kuw88: run systemsettings
[12:53] <Linux_Galore> or  asound --list
[12:54] <kuw88> thank you
[12:54] <Flamzart> @ manage repositories
[12:56] <Linux_Galore> kuw88: sorry asoundconf list
[12:57] <praetor> Linux_Galore: did the trick, cheers :-)
[12:57] <KomiaPoika> can anyone help me, i got a PowerVault 110T tape drive i need to get working in ubuntu 6.10, i can see the device in proc/scsci/scsi, but i don't have the st0 in /dev ... anyone has experience with this?
[12:57] <kuw88> (linux_calore) thank you for help i found it
[12:58] <Linux_Galore> praetor: yeah. seems to be some weird update bug that makes the package installer config script put two screen entries in xorg.conf sometimes
[12:58] <Linux_Galore> parkerw207: running that config setup flushes it all
[12:59] <toxidas> hi everyone
[12:59] <toxidas> i want to capture destop via beryl plugin
[12:59] <toxidas> i have the plugin but cannot capture
[01:00] <toxidas> it asks me about seom-x264 and couldn't find in the repos?
[01:00] <Linux_Galore> toxidas: its a codec
[01:01] <toxidas> where can i find it?
[01:01] <Linux_Galore> toxidas: in stall the xine-extra-codecs  package
[01:02] <toxidas> thanx by the way stupid question: what is super key in beryl?:)
[01:02] <[knap] > windows key
[01:02] <[knap] > with the flag
[01:03] <toxidas> i cant make work the win key is it via xorg.conf
[01:14] <parkerw207> i did it lol
[01:14] <parkerw207> i managed to get it working
[01:14] <parkerw207> thanks all :)
[01:14] <parkerw207> cya
[01:14] <parkerw207> exit
[01:14] <parkerw207> oops
[01:15] <parkerw207> !commands
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[01:18] <baracuda> G'day everyone
[01:20] <Pooh22> how are usb (media) events normally handled in kubuntu (edgy)?
[01:20] <Pooh22> I have a laptop where it seems that knetworkmanager is handling them (and doing it well)
[01:21] <Pooh22> but this isn't a standard package and it (or a related something) seems to have a conflict with NIS
[01:22] <Pooh22> without a handler, it seems the KDE Daemon responds with a "malformed URL" message and not mounting the usb media
[01:22] <Pooh22> anyone have a clue how to fix this?
[01:27] <vk6five> -noob alert- please bear with me. I am VERY rusty with my BASH, and I only learnt enough to get me by in what I had to do at school in the 80s. -- I am experiancing several issues ... first how do I rename a file eg "avg71flm_r30_a0791_i386.deb" to "avg71.deb" please?
[01:28] <Hobbsee> vk6five: mv avg71flm_r30_a0791_i386.deb avg71.deb
[01:31] <xenol> !acpi
[01:31] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[01:31] <xenol> i got problems with turning off my pc
[01:31] <xenol> any ideas?
[01:32] <xenol> plz anyone?
[01:32] <ubuntu_> hi
[01:33] <xenol> hi
[01:33] <ubuntu_> ja my nick is ubuntu.... fk
[01:33] <xenol> !language
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[01:34] <ubuntu_> __
[01:37] <KomiaPoika> can anyone help me, i got a PowerVault 110T tape drive i need to get working in ubuntu 6.10, i can see the device in proc/scsci/scsi, but i don't have the st0 in /dev ... anyone has experience with this?
[01:44] <xenol> !help
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[01:44] <xenol> !apciproblems
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apciproblems - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <xenol> !acpiproblems
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[01:45] <Pooh22> xenol: have you tried the kernel commandline in grub?
[01:46] <xenol> hmm wats that?
[01:46] <xenol> i cannot restart/turn off pc
[01:47] <Pooh22> if you look in /boot/grub/menu.lst, you can see how the kernel is started
[01:47] <Pooh22> sometimes you can fix things by doing acpi=on or acpi=off as a parameter to the kernel startup
[01:48] <xenol> Pooh22:  this may help me to turn off /restart pc?
[01:49] <Pooh22> xenol: I don't know for sure, your problem description is very generic ;-)
[01:49] <xenol> Pooh22:  so i will do it when i want to restart pc nothing happen only screen goes black and when i am turning off pc then only monitor shuts down and i can hear my disk and cooler working
[01:50] <Pooh22> hmm, I have that sometimes too, perhaps it will be fixed with the new kernel that will be updated when it is fixed (see topic)
[01:51] <max__> re
[01:51] <max__> I don't want to ask questions that have been answered twice but
[01:52] <max__> I dont know how to
[01:52] <xenol> Pooh22:  any  ideas?
[01:52] <max__> solve the matter on my own
[01:52] <max__> Any apt-experts here?
[01:52] <Pooh22> xenol: no further ideas at the moment
[01:53] <Pooh22> max__: just ask the question...
[01:53] <max__> my adept-updater won't stop showing 3 packages which can't b updated
[01:53] <max__> for update
[01:53] <Pooh22> max__: see topic of this channel
[01:54] <Pooh22> !topci
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[01:54] <Pooh22> !topic
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[01:54] <xenol> Pooh22: i should try acpi=off ?
[01:55] <max__> Pooh22: thx
[01:55] <Pooh22> xenol: it's worth a try, please let us know if it worked
[01:55] <xenol> Pooh22: ok i need to add it behind kernel parameters?
[01:58] <xenol> didnt helped :(
[01:59] <xenol> Pooh22: any more ideas? isnt there any file that log why PC cant shut down for example?
[01:59] <Pooh22> xenol: have you checked the /var/log/syslog file?
[02:00] <Pooh22> xenol, you could try doing acpi=on instead?
[02:03] <xenol> Pooh22:  i am sure what to look for
[02:04] <Pooh22> xenol: you could try to look for the moment just before the last time you booted
[02:05] <Pooh22> the boot messages will always start in a typical way and lots with nearly the same time
[02:06] <Pooh22> and the ones before that will probably contain shutdown, terminate, exit type of messages
[02:06] <xenol> well will u have look at it pplz?
[02:06] <xenol> plz*
[02:06] <xenol> !paste
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[02:06] <Pooh22> sure
[02:08] <xenol> Pooh22: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4854/  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4855/ first is syslog.0 and syslog
[02:11] <Pooh22> xenol: apart from that worrying message from kdm-greet, I don't see anything strange
[02:12] <xenol> Pooh22: i have nforce2 delta series MB
[02:12] <Pooh22> but it says memory corruption on my machine as well
[02:12] <Pooh22> so I guess that's just BS ;-)
[02:13] <xenol> and on dapper i didnt have any problems with shut down/restart :S
[02:13] <Pooh22> xenol: I'd wait for the new kernel to come through the updates in the next few days
[02:14] <xenol> Pooh22:  but the prob is many ppl have probs on laptops with this i am on desktop
[02:14] <xenol> and no answer
[02:14] <xenol> to it
[02:14] <xenol> i am worried that kernel 2.6.20 wont support my HW any more :S
[02:15] <hw> hmm
[02:15] <Pooh22> xenol: it's like that sometimes with Linux, sometimes a problem isn't fixed quickly
[02:15] <Pooh22> xenol: the next one will just be a minor update (2.6.17-11)
[02:16] <xenol> Pooh22:  well i dont understand win xp in shuting down with no prob daper no prob
[02:16] <xenol> well should i try to boot livecd and turn of there?
[02:17] <Pooh22> or just press the power button? (sometimes holding it for a while will finally turn it off)
[02:17] <Pooh22> I'm sure this will be fixed in some way
[02:17] <Pooh22> just not today ;-)
[02:18] <xenol> Pooh22: i found this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1722087&postcount=13:P
[02:18] <xenol> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1722087&postcount=13
[02:18] <xenol> i will give it try acpi=force
[02:19] <Pooh22> xenol: hopefully that will work...
[02:19] <xenol> im reading more threads in forum
[02:24] <xenol> Pooh22: i will try to shut down in windows :S
[02:24] <xenol> i am afraid cant do it there to
[02:25] <j_> any ideas when "dapper/edgy-security kernels are uninstallable, a fix is being worked on" will be fixed? I have no rush, the exclamation mark just bothers me =)
[02:28] <xenol> Pooh22: bah acpi=force didnt  helped
[02:29] <xenol> Pooh22: that kernel will solve this problems?
[02:29] <Pooh22> xenol: I don't know, but it seems to be a kernel problem
[02:29] <Pooh22> so it may solve it, or not (if it's not fixed in that release)
[02:30] <xenol> Pooh22: many ppl react to this?
[02:30] <xenol> react to this problem*
[02:30] <Pooh22> how do you mean "react"?
[02:30] <Pooh22> you mean if many people complain about this?
[02:31] <Pooh22> I don't know
[02:35] <Pooh22> xenol: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/44008
[02:36] <xenol> Pooh22: weird is sudo reboot works perfectly so sudo shutdown -p could also ?
[02:36] <Pooh22> perhaps it's a kdm bug?
[02:37] <xenol> well mayb
[02:37] <xenol> anyway i will try smth
[02:39] <nabil> am using kubuntu in xp through virtual box..runs like native speed
[02:39] <xenol> Pooh22: sux didnt helped either i got kernel 2.6.17-10 generic hope 17-11 fixes this
[02:39] <xenol> till then i need to sudo shutdown
[02:39] <xenol> i guess
[02:40] <xenol> Pooh22: can i ask u few more questions?
[02:42] <jay> I have  a script that I need 2 run JUST before gdm starts... how I do do that?
[02:43] <xenol> !paste
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[02:43] <Pooh22> xenol: I should really be doing something else, so just ask in general, there's about 350 people in the channel (though many asleep I suppose)
[02:43] <xenol> Pooh22: ok where can i know wat version of kde i am using?
[02:44] <xenol> this is last question
[02:44] <xenol> and thx for time Pooh22
[02:44] <Pooh22> xenol: in about kde (from konqueror help menu)
[02:44] <Pooh22> np xenol
[02:45] <mneisen> Hi, I have a problem with simutrans on Kubuntu. When I try to start the executable (rights are 755), I get an "Permission denied.". WTF? Any suggestions?
[02:46] <xenol> Pooh22: and one rly last question why adept notifies me about kernel updates for the same kernel i am using?
[02:46] <Pooh22> xenol: I don't know
[02:46] <mneisen> !topic
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[02:47] <xenol> so it is being fixed ?
[02:47] <tazz> anyone using a kubuntu distro can tell me what they see when they type "echo $DISPLAY" please?
[02:49] <jay> I have a script to run right before kdm starts... how do I do that?
[02:49] <mem_> :(
[02:50] <xenol> !script
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[02:53] <soulrider> hello
[02:53] <xenol> hi
[02:53] <mem_> hi
[02:53] <soulrider> im having some issues with the kernel, aptitude wants to downgrade it =/ anyone having this issue too ?>
[02:54] <xenol> soulrider: wat version u have?
[02:54] <xenol> 2.6.17-10 genric?
[02:54] <xenol> generic*
[02:54] <soulrider> no wait, it wants to upgrade but it sais the new ones have unmet deps
[02:54] <soulrider> yeah, wants to go for .11
[02:54] <xenol> well read topic
[02:54] <soulrider> but score is -91
[02:54] <soulrider> ohh :)
[02:54] <soulrider> i guess ill wait then
[02:55] <xenol> i have same prob
[02:55] <xenol> cant shutdown pc though k menu
[02:55] <soulrider> cant understand how they released uninstallable kernels though
[02:55] <xenol> need to sudo shutdown
[02:55] <zakame> evening all
[02:55] <mem_> 'ning
[02:55] <soulrider> evening zakame
[02:56] <zakame> hello soulrider :D
[02:56] <zakame> and mem_ :D
[02:56] <soulrider> hello zakame
[02:56] <mem_> Glad you're all smiles & grins zakame :P
[02:58] <tazz> when i type kate at the command prompt i get this error "kate: cannot connect to X server" any idea what the problem could be?
[02:58] <tazz> i think my x is broken
[02:59] <xenol> tazz use kdesu kate =)
[02:59] <mneisen> Hi, I have a problem with simutrans on Kubuntu. When I try to start the executable (rights are 755), I get an "Permission denied.". WTF? Any suggestions?
[02:59] <xenol> did u use sudo?
[02:59] <tazz> xenol, i get the following error "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[02:59] <tazz> Xlib: No protocol specified
[02:59] <tazz> kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0
[02:59] <tazz> "
[02:59] <zakame> mem_: pretty much, I'm quite happy tonight... just got a feature working for my little project ;)
[03:00] <zakame> I'll just pass time for the moment
[03:00] <xenol> tazz: i have sometimes same  prob too but when i type sudo kate and not kdesu kate
[03:00] <Agent_bob> tazz execute; xhost +LOCAL:     and retry.
[03:01] <tazz> Agent_bob, "xhost:  unable to open display ":0"
[03:01] <tazz> "
[03:02] <mem_> Anyone got Beryl working with SIS V card/? :S
[03:02] <tazz> xenol, in konsole i am logged in as root so i dont think sudo will make much diffrece.
[03:02] <mem_> zakame - congrats :)
[03:02] <xenol> tazz:  no idea then sry
[03:03] <Agent_bob> tazz not as root.  as the user that owns the xsession
[03:04] <tazz> Agent_bob, got it looks like i get the problem only when i am logged in as root or else everything is working fine.
[03:06] <xenol> tazz: wait for new kernel to come out if it wont fix it then u  have problem :p
[03:06] <Agent_bob> that's what the command was for, to unlock the xsession so that root could connect to it.
[03:06] <tazz> xenol, tonight i am updating from 6.06 to 6.10
[03:06] <xenol> well i update too and got only problems with it
[03:06] <rohan> do kubuntu and ubuntu interfere with each other ? for e.g., kde's trash can system is different form gnome's, so in gnome, i get an icon on the desktop .. "Trash.desktop" in fedora .. is it the same in ubuntu ?
[03:06] <xenol> cant shutdown pc correctly
[03:07] <ypsila> moin
[03:08] <Agent_bob> rohan no.  kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop  may conflict but they are both just meta packages.  you can uninstall the one to install the other.
[03:08] <rohan> no, the kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop packages dont conflict with each other. i am asking about the case mentioned above
[03:08] <crube> My updater keeps telling me there's 3 pudated packages available. These are linux header packages and something like that. I guess it doesn't actually update until I restart my computer. Am i right?
[03:08] <Agent_bob> or install neither and install both gnome and kde  meta packages   or any combination of the four
[03:09] <Agent_bob> rohan what "case mentioned above" ?
[03:09] <soulrider> !dbus
[03:09] <ubotu> dbus: simple interprocess messaging system. In component main, is optional. Version 0.93-0ubuntu3.1 (edgy), package size 312 kB, installed size 660 kB
[03:10] <Agent_bob> rohan trash ?   i answered that.   no.
[03:10] <rohan> Agent_bob:  for e.g., kde's trash can system is different form gnome's, so in gnome, i get an icon on the desktop .. "Trash.desktop" in fedora .. is it the same in ubuntu ?
[03:10] <soulrider> can someone explain to me what dbus is ?
[03:10] <rohan> oh
[03:10] <rohan> that's great .. :)
[03:11] <Agent_bob> you can have an icon on the desktop in either kde or gnome    but the trash filders are seperate they wont conflict.
[03:11] <xenol> crube it is kernel u dotn have to restat cause it wont upgrade just read the topic /topci
[03:11] <xenol>  /topic
[03:13] <xenol> !multimedia
[03:13] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[03:13] <xenol> !formats
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <xenol> !restrictedformats
[03:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:15] <rohan> xenol: you can try /msg'ing the bot, instead of having it reply in the channel
[03:19] <the_hammer> anyone else having a hard time installing adobe flash
[03:19] <the_hammer> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, SeaMonkey,
[03:19] <the_hammer> or Firefox browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla):
[03:19] <the_hammer> i hit enter and it just repeats itself :(
[03:20] <hw> the_hammer: aren't there kubuntu packages?
[03:20] <the_hammer> i added  the example and checked the path doesnt work
[03:20] <the_hammer> no i got it from adobe
[03:20] <hw> the_hammer: why?
[03:20] <Jucato> !flash9
[03:20] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[03:21] <the_hammer> flash9?
[03:21] <Jucato> yes. the latest version available for Linux
[03:21] <the_hammer> ok ill check that out ive install every flash in the repos and nadda will do what i want
[03:21] <hw> I've flash 9.0.31 installed
[03:21] <Jucato> the_hammer: you do have Flash 9 installed? form the -backports (you need to enable those)
[03:22] <hw> installed by kubuntu
[03:22] <the_hammer> how?
[03:22] <Jucato> !backports
[03:22] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[03:22] <the_hammer> (you need to enable those)
[03:22] <Jucato> just enable them in your sources.list
[03:22] <Jucato> !repositories
[03:22] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:23] <the_hammer> ok ive uncommented everything there already so i should be good yeah?
[03:23] <Jucato> look for the line with edgy-backports (if you're on edgy, or dapper-backports if you're on dapper) and remove the # at the beginning
[03:23] <the_hammer> edgy here
[03:24] <Jucato> double check your repositories. if they're "correct, sudo apt-get update". then sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:24] <oslo>  hi , i'm looking for my krfb logs ..do you know where they are ??
[03:25] <Agent_bob> /var/log/*
[03:32] <the_hammer> i added this line deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main universe multiverse restricted still not getting flash 9
[03:32] <the_hammer> when i search
[03:32] <the_hammer> :/
[03:32] <the_hammer> i did sudo update command also
[03:33] <Agent_bob> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[03:33] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[03:33] <the_hammer> hw do u have edgy?
[03:33] <Agent_bob> !edgy
[03:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[03:33] <hw> the_hammer: is edgy 6.10?
[03:34] <hw> Hmm, then I've edgy :)
[03:34] <Agent_bob> !info flashplugin-nonfree dapper
[03:34] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[03:34] <oslo>  hi , i'm looking for my krfb logs ..do you know where they are ??
[03:34] <the_hammer> yes
[03:35] <raeez> !apt-fix
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <raeez> !aptfix
[03:35] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:35] <the_hammer> u added onto your sources list tho eh hw?
[03:38] <Jucato> the_hammer: but you have flashplugin-nonfree already installed?
[03:39] <Agent_bob> abattoir did they ever fix http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org so console users could use it ?
[03:40] <parkerw207> all : what the helll?
[03:40] <Agent_bob> abattoir did they ever fix http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org so console users could use it ?   (repeting)
[03:40] <abattoir> Agent_bob: sorry, i'm not familiar w/ the issue
[03:40] <nagyv> I can not upgrade the linux-headers-generic package, although adept says that I should.
[03:40] <hw> the_hammer: Have a look at my source list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4862/ Actually I dont know which gave me flash 9 ;)
[03:40] <nagyv> this is alos true for linux-image-generic and linux-rescticted-modules-generic
[03:40] <Agent_bob> i'll go see.
[03:41] <parkerw207> dont suppose linux will find my lost keys will it ! i mean it seems to do everything else lol
[03:41] <xenol> wat does this mean plz? Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:41] <xenol> dpkg aint working?
[03:41] <Agent_bob> You appear to be spamming the pastebin.  If ynot attempting to spam, please enable javascript so you can pass the antispam ch
[03:41] <Agent_bob> that's what console users get ^
[03:41] <Agent_bob> and javascript is enabled in elinks.
[03:42] <abattoir> Agent_bob: hmm, I personally don't know who runs it... may be a good idea to mail them :)
[03:43] <Agent_bob> abattoir i guess so.
[03:44] <mariella> eya
[03:44] <mariella> whats the easiest way to upgrade the kernel in kubuntu?
[03:44] <mariella> or, the entire system
[03:45] <Agent_bob> read the topic ?
[03:45] <xenol> !upgrade
[03:45] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:46] <mariella> ta xenol
[03:46] <xenol> =)
[03:46] <twoaday> how about apt-get
[03:46] <mariella> ive already upgraded there
[03:46] <mariella> but then i tried running this adept packager thing again
[03:46] <mem_> I hope I don't kill this machine again :(
[03:46] <mariella> and it says the kernel is ready for upgrade
[03:46] <mariella> so i requested an upgrade
[03:46] <mariella> and it didnt work
[03:46] <mariella> :(
[03:46] <Jucato> mariella: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[03:47] <mariella> nah, its cool
[03:47] <mariella> now that i know its a common error
[03:47] <mariella> :)
[03:47] <Agent_bob> read the topic ?  <<<  ^
[03:47] <twoaday> kewl
[03:47] <the_hammer> if ya use edgy and ya wanna get new kernels add this to your sources.list deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel/ trunk main
[03:47] <mem_> just out of curiousity - where is the topic?
[03:47] <mariella> k
[03:48] <Jucato> mem_: at the top of the channel or when you join a channel or when you type /topic
[03:48] <mem_> Honestly.. >.<
[03:48] <mem_> Thank you, and sorry
[03:48] <mem_> lol :)
[03:49] <oslo> hi , i'm looking for my krfb logs or my internet connections logs..
[03:49] <Agent_bob> "top of the channel" <<< assumes the same irc client that you use...  and the same settings in the irc client.    but the command /topic works for just about all clients.
[03:49] <mem_> I've seen you in here twice now.. my sound problem is back, but I'm focused on working out whether or not I'll be able to get Beryl working with my SIS video card?
[03:49] <mariella> ta the_hammer
[03:50] <mem_> It's up there Agent_bob. To be honest, if "Konversation" didn't log me straight into the support channel when I opened it.. I'd never have found it.
[03:50] <the_hammer> missing a tonf keys hw lol
[03:53] <mem_> .. what is the section called.. where its failed to launch KDE and you're at a black screen to login from there..?
[03:55] <Agent_bob> mem_   a  console
[03:55] <mem_> :) thank you
[03:55] <xenol> i got problems installing flash on edgy :O
[03:56] <the_hammer> im missing a ton of keys but i got the player u got hw ty
[03:56] <chronic1> anyone here installed GForge?
[03:56] <mem_> !console
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about console - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <hw> the_hammer: Which repository is it? =)
[03:58] <the_hammer> not sure i used your whole list lol
[03:58] <Agent_bob> mem_ there are by default 6 active consoles at all times unless in single user mode (safe mode)   they can be reached with the key combinations  [alt] +[ctrl] +[f#]   where # is the number of the tty (console) you wish to reach.  1-6 are running getty (the login prompt) and xorg runs in tty7  [ctrl] +[alt] +[f7]      by default...
[03:58] <Agent_bob> !cli | mem_
[03:58] <ubotu> mem_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:00] <mem_> You've probably realised by now I'm extremely new to this.  I have seen my bf using those screens, he has a basic debian version and it always starts in text. He said I should use ctrlaltbcspce to get to it but it just logs me out
[04:02] <mem_> I'll get there eventually. Doesn't help that the only time I get to look at it is 2am..
[04:02] <Agent_bob> mem_ yeah use [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]
[04:03] <xenol> i have problems with installijg flashplugin-nonfree it says
[04:03] <xenol> dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--configure):
[04:03] <xenol>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:03] <xenol> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:03] <xenol>  flashplugin-nonfree
[04:03] <xenol> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:03] <xenol> in terminal plz any ideas?
[04:03] <mem_> Saved by bob
[04:03] <Agent_bob> [ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace]  only kills xorg  it doesn't kill kdm/gdm/xdm  which started xorg and will restart it.
[04:04] <mem_> This is making more and more sense
[04:04] <Agent_bob> xenol in konsole; sudo dpkg --configure -a     and see what the error is?
[04:05] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[04:05] <mem_> I'm trying to create a file using this command .. $  sudo gedit /usr/local/bin/startxgl.sh  but the command gedit can't be found. Am I missing a package for this, or is this to do with gnome and not KDE?
[04:05] <Ippatsu> mem_: try nano instead of gedit
[04:05] <Agent_bob> mem_ yeah  the gnome desktop.   try replacing gedit with kate
[04:06] <Agent_bob> assuming you are doing this in the gui
[04:06] <ScottK> And it should be kdesu, not just sudo.
[04:06] <xenol> Agent_bob:  dunno it does the same ask me if i want to isntall flash i press y and that thing happen but i realized now that i dont have edgy backports in my repo list so mayb thats the problem
[04:06] <xenol> !source-o-matic
[04:06] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:06] <mem_> nano worked.  This probably won't work though. I think I picked the hardest thing to do for my first ever linux thing
[04:07] <Agent_bob> xenol maybe.
[04:07] <mem_> Beryl/Kubuntu has heaps of information on nvidia ATI & radeon.. but not much on SIS
[04:08] <Agent_bob> !xgl
[04:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:08] <vbgunz> I have several updates but cannot apply them. Adept says, BREAK (UPGRADE), how do I fix this?
[04:08] <mem_> Am I pushing my luck?
[04:08] <rysiek|pl> what's up with the updates? I have three virtual packages in Adept Updater that are "upgradeable" but are marked as "no change"
[04:08] <Agent_bob> vbgunz read the topic.
[04:08] <Agent_bob> vbgunz it's the issue of the day.
[04:09] <vbgunz> Agent_bob: thanks :)
[04:09] <rysiek|pl> oh, vgbunz has the same problem
[04:09] <Agent_bob> rysiek|pl note the topic
[04:09] <rysiek|pl> yeah
[04:09] <Agent_bob> actually that issue landed in the repos yesterday i think...
[04:11] <xenol> Agent_bob: well can backports endanger stability od edgy_
[04:11] <xenol> ?
[04:12] <vbgunz> Agent_bob: yeah, it was yesterday I had the issue, I asked but no one knew. thanks for pointing out the topic
[04:12] <Agent_bob> if you are asking if it's possable, yes.  if you are asking if it's likely no.
[04:12] <Agent_bob> vbgunz np.    i ventured in yesterday and heard stdin and Jucato discussing it...
[04:13] <Jucato> : Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[04:13] <Agent_bob> is that a repost or a script Jucato ?
[04:14] <Agent_bob> i thought that might be automated...
[04:17] <xenol> how can i ask  for GPG key? wget and wat ?
[04:18] <mem_> $ wget [GPGINFO]  -O- | sudo apt-key add - I think?
[04:19] <ubuntu> s.a
[04:19] <xenol> well can be download slower due to fact i dont have gpgkey from that repo?
[04:19] <Agent_bob> dl time is not affected by gpg
[04:20] <Agent_bob> gpg checks the package after it's dl'd
[04:20] <mem_> thats as far as I get in helping right now.. wish I knew more
[04:20] <ubuntu> hey where is the kernel
[04:20] <xenol> check wat about it?
[04:20] <xenol> ubuntu: which kernel?
[04:20] <Agent_bob> ubuntu it's int the /topic
[04:20] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[04:20] <ubuntu> sikerim seni akll ol
[04:21] <LjL> !tr
[04:21] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[04:21] <ubuntu> turk yokmu imdi burda
[04:21] <LjL> !english
[04:21] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[04:22] <ubuntu> sikerim o english i
[04:22] <eMish_> packages.debian.org containe entry for iceape-browser. Why I 'apt-get install iceape.browser' say 'no such package' ?
[04:22] <LjL> !info iceape-browser
[04:23] <ubotu> Package iceape-browser does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[04:23] <LjL> are you quite sure?
[04:23] <LjL> oh you said *debian*.org
[04:23] <stdin> packages.debian.org ??
[04:23] <LjL> eMish_, a package that's in debian, especially testing/unstable, doesn't *have* to be in Ubuntu as well, though they often are
[04:24] <eMish_> Still, if i want to install it, can ?
[04:24] <eMish_> How ?
[04:24] <Agent_bob> eMish_ you should NOT use debian repos with ubuntu systems
[04:24] <theshadow> !beryl
[04:24] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:24] <LjL> !debian | eMish_
[04:24] <ubotu> eMish_: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[04:24] <Agent_bob> !source | eMish_
[04:24] <ubotu> eMish_: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[04:24] <LjL> what *is* iceape anyway? debian's renamed flavor of seamonkey, i suppose?
[04:25] <eMish_> yes
[04:25] <BluesKaj> seamonkey is just netscape in wetmonkey's clothing ;)
[04:26] <LjL> !mozilla-browser
[04:26] <ubotu> mozilla-browser: The Mozilla Internet application suite - core and browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.7.13-0.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 9797 kB, installed size 29720 kB
[04:26] <xenol> well guys i am running OO.o and just now koofice data installed do i need that?
[04:26] <LjL> probably the closest that's in our repos..
[04:26] <eMish_> all development of mozilla-browser is stopped but i use it. Just wanted to se how iceape is different
[04:27] <joaospinto> how can i unninstall kubuntu
[04:27] <eMish_> i like moz much better than firefox
[04:27] <joaospinto> through windows if possible
[04:27] <joaospinto> shall i just delete the partitions?
[04:27] <Agent_bob> joaospinto yes.
[04:27] <joaospinto> partition magic is ok for that?
[04:27] <LjL> joaospinto: yes. "uninstalling" an operating system doesn't really mean anything - you just put another one on the partition instead.
[04:27] <Agent_bob> and be sure that you fix the mbr
[04:28] <stdin> delete the partition, then restore the windows boot loader if you want it
[04:28] <icheyne> joaospinto, yes but you would have to fix your boot records too
[04:28] <xenol> joaospinto: www.microsoft.com and seach for how to delete linux
[04:28] <joaospinto> yes yes
[04:28] <joaospinto> ok
[04:28] <icheyne> joaospinto, bad move though :)
[04:28] <joaospinto> loooool
[04:28] <joaospinto> i am not gonna use windows
[04:28] <joaospinto> i think i am goona install gentoo
[04:29] <joaospinto> i want to test it, at least
[04:29] <icheyne> oh right
[04:29] <mem_> Time to see if this works. Wish me luck!
[04:29] <icheyne> Gentoo's installer might fix the kubuntu delete for you
[04:29] <joaospinto> but how can i reconfigure the boot loader
[04:29] <stdin> you can just install over kubuntu if it's another linux
[04:29] <joaospinto> will it auto-configure?
[04:29] <joaospinto> stdin
[04:29] <icheyne> gentoo might fix that
[04:29] <icheyne> probably
[04:29] <icheyne> worth a try
[04:29] <joaospinto> ok then
[04:29] <joaospinto> oh
[04:30] <joaospinto> and one more thing
[04:30] <joaospinto> the minimal cds
[04:30] <icheyne> ask at Gentoo channel
[04:30] <joaospinto> ok
[04:30] <joaospinto> ty :D
[04:30] <Agent_bob> http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=review-winxp <<< joaospinto
[04:30] <Jucato> Agent_bob: regarding your question earlier. it was something I wrote in a command alias for easy repitition
[04:30] <Jucato> (the info about the kernel update)
[04:31] <Agent_bob> yes it looked plastic Jucato  :)
[04:31] <stdin> and then I coppied it :P
[04:31] <pinheiro-office> ridel ping again sory
[04:31] <Jucato> and then I leave stdin to do the repeating
[04:31] <pinheiro-office> Riddell:
[04:32] <Agent_bob> :)
[04:32] <vk6five> In Gnome the locaton is '/usr/share/applications' wherefor art thou to use in KDE? this is for a x.desktop file
[04:32] <Riddell> pinheiro-office: hi
[04:32] <Riddell> vk6five: same place, it's standard
[04:32] <pinheiro-office> hi Riddell hu is taking kare of the akademy page 2007
[04:32] <Agent_bob> plastic firecracker   :)
[04:33] <Riddell> pinheiro-office: me and kenny
[04:33] <pinheiro-office> i want to stra working on that one
[04:33] <pinheiro-office> hehehhe
[04:33] <pinheiro-office> cool
[04:33] <Riddell> pinheiro-office: cool, please do, we're in #akademy2007
[04:33] <pinheiro-office> cool
[04:34] <vk6five> ah ok... having made them... what am i supposed to look for?? [I'm installing AVG]  following the walk thru of debianadmin.
[04:34] <vk6five> I've written two x.desktop files .. I thought I was making a couple of desktop scripts
[04:35] <pinheiro-office> Riddell:  can we set up some kind of meeting so you guys can state your grafical needs and i start to work on it
[04:36] <xenol> i made things with how to  and flash still aint working :(
[04:37] <Yasim> Somebody knows how to compile #C files?
[04:37] <stdin> !compile
[04:37] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:37] <Agent_bob> and don't forget to start by installing "build-essential"
[04:38] <Yasim> I just need the "stdio.h" library to start.
[04:38] <Agent_bob> no you need a compiler.
[04:38] <Agent_bob> so install build-essential
[04:38] <Yasim> yes, I have four.
[04:38] <Agent_bob> ok.
[04:38] <Jucato> four what?
[04:38] <Yasim> Monodevelop.
[04:38] <Yasim> Geany.
[04:39] <Yasim> KDevelop-.
[04:39] <Yasim> (four compilers)
[04:39] <Jucato> Yasim: you have installed "build-essential"?
[04:39] <Yasim> wait, i'm searching.
[04:39] <Agent_bob> none of those are a compiler tho.....
[04:39] <Jucato> they're IDE's
[04:39] <ubuntu> helloo allz
[04:39] <ubuntu> :)
[04:40] <ubuntu> nick niKon
[04:40] <vk6five> the walk thru is for Gnome and it isn't so simple in KDE (apparently) -- also when recompilling the rpm to deb I included the scripts the second time - as this wasn't in the walk thru, but was a hint in the running of alias.
[04:40] <niKon> god
[04:40] <niKon> :)
[04:40] <Yasim> Uh... sorry, they have the "compile button" so I thing that there where compilers :$.
[04:40] <Jucato> Yasim: installing build-essential will install everything you need to compile, including the headers
[04:40] <Yasim> ok, I'm downloading just now.
[04:40] <Yasim> thanks to everyone.
[04:41] <Agent_bob> in the kubuntu help channel most of the time it's "monkey see, monkey get confused and ask stupid questions"
[04:44] <xenol> how can i add java plugin or whatever to konqueror?
[04:45] <Yasim> another question, I want to have Xfce (i'm on Kubuntu) , so I downloaded "xfce4" , but there isn't working pretty well, I need to download something more?
[04:45] <ForgeAus> install it from adept
[04:45] <ForgeAus> sun java or blackdown
[04:45] <ForgeAus> either or
[04:45] <ForgeAus> depending on your needs
[04:45] <ForgeAus> theres also a mozilla plugin
[04:45] <hatta> Yasim, try xubuntu-desktop
[04:45] <hatta> `aptitude install xubuntu-desktop` that is
[04:46] <xenol> ForgeAus:  well i dotn want any developer version just plugin to konqueror :p
[04:46] <ForgeAus> well its not exactly a plugin to konqueror specifically
[04:46] <Agent_bob> 1
[04:46] <Yasim> I think I've tried thtat, but doesn't works.
[04:46] <Agent_bob> .
[04:46] <Agent_bob> 2
[04:46] <Agent_bob> ooops
[04:46] <ForgeAus> just get one of the java packages, it will install the right stuff (yo odn't need jse j2ee, etc just to run an applett
[04:46] <stdin> xenol: konqu used the mozilla one afaik
[04:47] <vk6five> So having dkpg -i the newly aliened file.... I hav gedited the following and one other for initiating and update.... WHY can't I find the program and Where should I look to sort out the mess?
[04:47] <vk6five> sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/avg.desktop
[04:47] <ForgeAus> stdin yeah I think it does too
[04:47] <vk6five> enter the following lines Save and exit the file
[04:47] <vk6five> File:/usr/share/applications/avg.desktop
[04:47] <vk6five> [Desktop Entry]
[04:47] <vk6five> Name=AVG Antivirus
[04:47] <vk6five> Comment=Antivirus
[04:47] <vk6five> Exec=avggui &
[04:47] <vk6five> Icon=/opt/grisoft/avggui/prog/pixmaps/avgico_big.png
[04:47] <vk6five> Terminal=false
[04:47] <vk6five> Type=Application
[04:47] <vk6five> Categories=Application;System;
[04:47] <stdin> !paste | vk6five
[04:47] <ubotu> vk6five: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:47] <vk6five> oh  ... starting from [Desktop]
[04:48] <xenol> ForgeAus:  so  sun is enough?M
[04:48] <ForgeAus> (Xenon I odn't mean ALL java packages)
[04:48] <ForgeAus> should b
[04:48] <xenol> i know
[04:48] <stdin> xenol: just grab sun-java5-plugin
[04:48] <BluesKaj> AVG isn't wrtiiten fot linux , for one thing
[04:48] <Agent_bob> vk6five just a clue, dpkg -L packagename  to list everything it installed....
[04:48] <ForgeAus> yup thats the one
[04:48] <ForgeAus> (or java6?)
[04:49] <vk6five> danke BOB
[04:49] <stdin> ForgeAus: java6 available on feisty
[04:49] <vk6five> that would be a start.
[04:49] <stdin> !info sun-java6-jre feisty
[04:49] <ubotu> sun-java6-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-2 (feisty), package size 6175 kB, installed size 14144 kB
[04:49] <ForgeAus> must be in edgy backports or proposed then
[04:49] <Agent_bob> d'nada vk6five
[04:49] <Yasim> i'm trying to install "xubuntu-desktop" but it gives somre problem with packages
[04:49] <ForgeAus> coz I'm using edgy and I got it
[04:50] <Yasim> (evince-gtk -or- evince)
[04:50] <ForgeAus> Yasim sounds tuff... what kind of problems?
[04:51] <ForgeAus> (kde has kpdf for pdf files)
[04:51] <Agent_bob> Yasim /topic   as long as there is a repos problem it may affect the installation of anything.
[04:51] <tapas> ~$ nmblookup "*" finds my smb server
[04:51] <tapas> but entering smb:/ in konqueror fails to find anything
[04:51] <tapas> why's that?
[04:51] <ForgeAus> the file formats evince shows should work in kpdf afaik....
[04:51] <Yasim> Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas:
[04:51] <Yasim>   xubuntu-desktop: Depende: evince-gtk pero no va a instalarse o
[04:51] <Yasim>                             evince pero no va a instalarse
[04:51] <ForgeAus> if you need something better perhaps try kile?
[04:51] <vk6five> BluesKaj: It does seem to have been ported and debianadmin have a walk thru for the instelliation of the package... It hasn't as yet been officially put together for degbian or ubunto though.
[04:52] <Yasim> I don't know how to translate :(.
[04:52] <ForgeAus> (a more full latex typesetting app)
[04:52] <Agent_bob>   (https://launchpad.net/bugs/83976)
[04:52] <ForgeAus> evince gtk and evince (non-gtk) can't be installed together
[04:52] <BluesKaj> vk6five, who ported it for linux , AVG themselves or ...?
[04:52] <ForgeAus> either one of them is fine anyway
[04:52] <vk6five> sheesh I should look at the keys I'm hitting at this hour of the morning ... lol
[04:53] <xenol> is java and java plugin automaticaly isntalled in konqueror?
[04:53] <FringeJacket> help: claculations in kubuntu.... IDK how... can someone tell me the calculator function whle I go get tea????
[04:53] <ForgeAus> the GTK one is probably just a more Gnome-customized version
[04:53] <vk6five> Yes AVG have on there site 3 .rpm's for redhat,suse, and one other
[04:53] <BluesKaj> hmmm, can't seem to get FF to open full scrn , forgotten how to fix that
[04:53] <vk6five> their site
[04:54] <ForgeAus> Grisoft actually
[04:54] <Yasim> anyway, I can compile now!, but I can't execute the programs, it says 'permision denied'.
[04:54] <ForgeAus> on free.grisoft.com
[04:54] <theshadow> !beryl
[04:54] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:54] <BluesKaj> I believe so xenol
[04:54] <stdin> xenol: yeah, once you install it konqueror will use it
[04:54] <ForgeAus> its been there for a while now
[04:54] <vk6five> grisoft is the maker of AVG so that's basically the same thung, right.
[04:54] <ForgeAus> (the rpms I mean)
[04:54] <ForgeAus> yes vk6five
[04:55] <xenol> ForgeAus:  well grisoft is czech corp and i dont have good experience with AVG AV software
[04:55] <manom> !beryl
[04:55] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:55] <xenol> stdin: so i need to dl sun java5-plugin?
[04:55] <ForgeAus> really? I havn't had any trouble with it, unlike Norton Anti-virus
[04:55] <stdin> xeno
[04:55] <stdin> arr
[04:55] <stdin> xenol: enable multiverse, then install the package
[04:55] <ForgeAus> but then AVG for Linux might be a different animal I know little about it
[04:55] <vk6five> are there any good free av soft packages for simple kbuntu install ???
[04:56] <stdin> !antivirus
[04:56] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[04:56] <ForgeAus> clamav?
[04:56] <stdin> !linuxvirus
[04:56] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[04:56] <stdin> !virus
[04:56] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[04:56] <xenol> stdin:  i build my repo in source o matic and dunno if multiverse is there
[04:57] <Yasim> Ok, I can execute programas now, thanks!.
[04:57] <ForgeAus> no problem Yasim
[04:57] <stdin> xenol: open konsole and so "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin" you'll find out then :)
[04:58] <ForgeAus> is it just me or is XFCE kinda like a Gnome-lite?
[04:59] <stdin> enlightenment is a nice environment
[04:59] <hatta> well it's a desktop environemnt-lite
[04:59] <Agent_bob> !source-o-matic
[04:59] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:00] <theshadow> where is the KDE startup directory?
[05:01] <Agent_bob> !easyubuntu
[05:01] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[05:01] <stdin> !autostart
[05:01] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[05:01] <ForgeAus> stdin I like most of the Windows Managers I've tried out
[05:01] <ForgeAus> Fluxbox is nice and small its quite professional in design and feel but very minimal....
[05:01] <theshadow> ty
[05:01] <ForgeAus> KDE is much freer with options
[05:02] <Agent_bob> !klamav
[05:02] <ubotu> klamav: KDE frontend for ClamAV. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.37-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 702 kB, installed size 2256 kB
[05:02] <ForgeAus> ami-wm is an interesting one for Amiga fans... gives you a workbench-like desktop... but again not very configurable... extremely light tho...
[05:02] <ForgeAus> Oroboros is one for ROX but I odn't know much about that one
[05:02] <Agent_bob> yeah   blackbox/fluxbox  is my fav.
[05:03] <ForgeAus> XFCE like I said before to me seems like a cross between fluxbox and gnome!...
[05:03] <ForgeAus> FVWM is ok but its kinda old
[05:04] <Agent_bob> vfce is good but too heavy for my taste
[05:04] <stdin> fluxbox is nice, as far as light WMs go, but I love KDE too much to really get in to it :P
[05:04] <ForgeAus> another one I like is WindowsMaker...
[05:04] <Agent_bob> but hey i like twm ....
[05:04] <ForgeAus> lol AgentBob
[05:04] <pontus> I have an executable that has "-rwxr-xr-x" set and is owned by me. But still I get "Permission denied" what could be wrong?
[05:04] <ForgeAus> grrr WindowMaker
[05:04] <ForgeAus> its a Next-step like windows manager
[05:05] <ForgeAus> btw AgentBob there is a Fluxbuntu distribution
[05:05] <Agent_bob> icewm/windowmaker  yeah
[05:05] <theshadow> in the package update manager (adept) its showing two available updates one is linux-image-386 and if I request update on it, it says "BREAK (upgrade)" what does that mean?
[05:05] <Agent_bob> ForgeAus really ?
[05:05] <stdin> theshadow: Updates to linux kernel-related packages being held is a known issue. A fix is currently being worked on. Accepting or updating will do nothing, as no package will be installed or upgraded anyway. Please ignore the update notification for now. See https://launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/83976 for reference/updates
[05:06] <ForgeAus> (their icon is way too close to Xubuntu's without the rat imho... kinda looks like an AFTER pic (if Xubuntu's is the before) becasue the inner circle is "eaten out" a bit...
[05:06] <ForgeAus> yeah but its not an official one with the Ubuntu people
[05:06] <stdin> dose no one ever read the topic :P
[05:06] <Agent_bob> !topic | theshadow
[05:06] <ubotu> theshadow: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[05:06] <FringeJacket> help: claculations in kubuntu....  Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:11] <stdin> !limewire | parkerw207
[05:11] <ubotu> parkerw207: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[05:11] <Agent_bob> parkerw207 i don't.
[05:12] <parkerw207> thanks
[05:12] <FringeJacket> roey, thats one I can help with
[05:12] <Roey> oh, cool!
[05:13] <Roey> (there is a default debian one that I like)
[05:13] <parkerw207> do i have to unzip that file ?
[05:13] <Roey> for 80x25
[05:14] <stdin> parkerw207: why not use frostwire, it's just an open-source version of limewire, and is easy to install
[05:14] <FringeJacket> roey, its in the setting koncole settings under encoding
[05:14] <xenol> stdin:  java  int working
[05:14] <parkerw207> ooo frostwire ?
[05:14] <Roey> FringeJacket:  ok
[05:14] <parkerw207> is it on adept?
[05:14] <stdin> !frostwire
[05:14] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:14] <xenol> stdin: and i loaded plugins in konqueror
[05:14] <Roey> FringeJacket:  (this is the text console I mean, is that what you're referring to as well?)
[05:14] <stdin> parkerw207: follow that link
[05:14] <parkerw207> ok thank
[05:14] <Roey> FringeJacket:  there's an /etc file for it, right?
[05:14] <ScarFreewill> !ddrescue
[05:14] <ubotu> ddrescue: copies data from one file or block device to another. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.10-1 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 76 kB
[05:14] <stdin> Roey: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup"
[05:15] <Roey> stdin:  thanks
[05:15] <Agent_bob> Roey man consolechars
[05:15] <Agent_bob> you can have different fonts per console
[05:15] <stdin> xenol: hmm, maybe you need to run "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[05:16] <kkosmo> stdin
[05:16] <kkosmo> ?
[05:16] <ScarFreewill> i can use ddrescue to make a folder into a file right?
[05:16] <stdin> kkosmo: do you have to use enter as punctuation ?
[05:16] <kkosmo> i fix my problem
[05:16] <kkosmo> my lest
[05:16] <kkosmo> but i have more problem now i dont see pictures in firefox
[05:16] <kkosmo> i dont know why
[05:16] <stdin> ScarFreewill: you can just tar it for that
[05:17] <Agent_bob> !info console-setup dapper
[05:17] <stdin> kkosmo: I have no idea
[05:17] <ubotu> Package console-setup does not exist in dapper
[05:17] <Agent_bob> !info console-setup edgy
[05:17] <ubotu> console-setup: Setup the font and the keyboard on the console. In component main, is important. Version 1.7ubuntu19 (edgy), package size 409 kB, installed size 1088 kB
[05:18] <ScarFreewill> stdin: yeah, but doesn't windows infilltrate tars and spam stuff like tumbles all over it?
[05:19] <xenol> stdin: i got some others java isntalled
[05:19] <stdin> ScarFreewill: just change the extention then
[05:19] <xenol> stdin:  i want to remove them but dont know which r from which is there any commands that cleans away all packages ?
[05:20] <stdin> xenol: how many do you have ?
[05:20] <xenol> stdin: 3
[05:20] <ScarFreewill> stdin: thanks for thinking logical for me ;)
[05:20] <xenol> stdin: no 2
[05:21] <parkerw207> you know that frost wire ?
[05:21] <xenol> stdin: want to remove all packages of sun-java5 and configure the OSS one
[05:21] <parkerw207> why dos it keep downloading it as code
[05:21] <parkerw207> and show it in a text editior ?
[05:21] <stdin> parkerw207: it's because of the sever, just right click it then save link as
[05:22] <stdin> xenol: if you want the plugin, you need the sun version, and, btw, suns java is now oss
[05:22] <parkerw207> it says " download.php"
[05:22] <parkerw207> as the filename
[05:23] <xenol> i have to now gij wrapper and sun stdin
[05:24] <xenol> stdin:  can i remove that wrapper?
[05:24] <stdin> parkerw207: rename it, doesn't matter what you call it as long as it ends in .deb
[05:24] <parkerw207> it ends in php @S
[05:24] <Agent_bob> yeah people building websites out of index.php in place of intex.html  nowa days kinda P'z me off.
[05:24] <RRiChIe> hi all
[05:24] <parkerw207> dont worry i got it lol
[05:24] <stdin> parkerw207: yeah, just rename it after
[05:25] <RRiChIe> please do you know the release date of heirdy ?
[05:25] <stdin> xenol: if you want, just remove the package gij-4.1
[05:26] <stdin> RRiChIe: heiery?
[05:26] <Agent_bob> heirdy ?
[05:26] <RRiChIe> Feisty Fawn i mean
[05:26] <stdin> !feisty | RRiChIe
[05:26] <ubotu> RRiChIe: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[05:26] <RRiChIe> ok thank you
[05:27] <stdin> I think you meant herd (the code name for the development releases)
[05:27] <RRiChIe> ok (sorry for my bad english)
[05:28] <xenol> stdin:  ok i have multimedia flash java running wat do i need?
[05:28] <geniusvicks> I run KDE, I followed the instructions on "http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX" but got stuck here sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:28] <geniusvicks> The command doesnt work
[05:28] <stdin> geniusvicks: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[05:29] <stdin> xenol: you have java, just get flash now
[05:29] <geniusvicks> stdin, does it matter that I installed Beryl before typing "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart" ?
[05:29] <stdin> geniusvicks: no
[05:30] <parkerw207> stdin
[05:30] <parkerw207> i downloaded it
[05:30] <parkerw207> installed it using that kpacketmanager or what ever it
[05:30] <parkerw207> and its in my menu and wen i lcick it , it says its loading then it just doesnt show
[05:31] <xenol> stdin: flash is taken care of done so i have flash java multimedia issues done wat else do i need for general using?
[05:31] <stdin> parkerw207: yeah, it's a small bug, easy fix
[05:31] <parkerw207> how ?
[05:31] <stdin> parkerw207: just run "kdesu kate /usr/bin/frostwire" and change "sh runFrost.sh" to "bash runFrost.sh"
[05:32] <stdin> xenol: maybe mp3 ? and w32codecs
[05:32] <xenol> stdin: done
[05:32] <parkerw207> fialed to open device stdin ?
[05:32] <stdin> parkerw207: did you use kdesu?
[05:32] <parkerw207> what is kdesu?
[05:32] <stdin> xenol: that's about it then
[05:33] <stdin> !kdesu | parkerw207
[05:33] <ubotu> parkerw207: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:33] <parkerw207> yeah i did
[05:33] <vk6five> OK having played around a bit I have run and updated avg.  Now can ppl tell me pls, where to stick a file like x.desktop to appear in the kde 'K Menu'?
[05:33] <stdin> parkerw207: where did you run it form?
[05:33] <parkerw207> console?
[05:34] <stdin> vk6five: /usr/share/applications/
[05:34] <stdin> parkerw207: just press Alt-F2, and put it in there
[05:34] <vk6five> stdin: that's where it is... but I see NOTHING on the 'K Menu'
[05:34] <Agent_bob> konsole != console
[05:35] <stdin> vk6five: have you restarted kicker/logged out and back in?
[05:35] <xenol> stdin: i got issue with turning of pc from kdm need to use konsole any ideas if new kernel will fix it?
[05:35] <parkerw207> hhhm stdin
[05:36] <parkerw207> all i get it
[05:36] <vk6five> heh <sheepish grin> Yeah, good idea -- why didn't I think of that.
[05:36] <parkerw207> is*
[05:36] <parkerw207> oo dont owrry
[05:36] <Agent_bob> kbuildsycoca
[05:36] <CaseyOmah> Is there no longer a Multiverse as of Edgy?
[05:36] <stdin> CaseyOmah: yes there is multivers in edgy
[05:37] <Agent_bob> kbuildsycoca incrmental   or some such.
[05:37] <stdin> xenol: maybe, check the pug reports and file one if there isn't one
[05:37] <CaseyOmah> The default sources doesn't list one, so I wanted to ask.
[05:37] <parkerw207> ok stdin i did what you said and it still does the same thing
[05:37] <Roey> thanks stdin
[05:37] <stdin> parkerw207: you saved the file?
[05:37] <Agent_bob>   --noincremental           Disable incremental update, re-read everything
[05:37] <parkerw207> yep
[05:37] <stdin> Roey: no problem
[05:38] <parkerw207> i can show you what i wrote
[05:38] <stdin> parkerw207: ok
[05:38] <parkerw207> stdin :bash /usr/lib/frostwire/bash runFrostwire.sh
[05:38] <vk6five> Is there a simple way of be initiating the menu without dumping the desktop and relogging? services or sumthin like that. [remember, I'm rusty with acient knowledge getting in the way of 'enough to be dangerous' -to the system not the world... lol
[05:39] <CaseyOmah> vk6five: You'
[05:39] <CaseyOmah> vk6five: You're asking about updating the K Menu?
[05:39] <stdin> parkerw207: the line should read "bash runFrost.sh"
[05:39] <Agent_bob> vk6five kbuildsycoca
[05:39] <Agent_bob> !kbuildsycoca
  If your K menu is out of date, like after installing an application and not finding it in the K menu, you should type "kbuildsycoca" in a terminal to rebuild the KDE configuration cache
[05:40] <parkerw207> thats all?
[05:40] <parkerw207> just bash runfrost.sh ?
[05:40] <stdin> parkerw207: CaseSensitive
[05:40] <parkerw207> oo
[05:41] <parkerw207> but thats all yes ?
[05:41] <stdin> parkerw207: the file should have three lines
[05:41] <parkerw207> delete the rst and just have : bash runFrost.sh
[05:41] <parkerw207> ooo wel mine only has one :S
[05:41] <vk6five> yes CaseyOmah
[05:41] <vk6five> thankyou BOB
[05:42] <Popoi> Hi, this a stupid question but: what's the name of the app to untar and unzip included on Kubuntu Desktop?
[05:42] <Agent_bob> vk6five stderr ?
[05:42] <parkerw207> stdin : so i dunno what wrong with it
[05:42] <Agent_bob> heh  2>&1    now go be stdout.
[05:42] <stdin> parkerw207: it should look like this http://pastebin.ca/347700
[05:43] <vk6five> that'd be ARK, no?
[05:43] <stdin> Popoi: yeah, ark
[05:43] <parkerw207> stdin shoul di just put that in ?
[05:43] <khaije1> hi
[05:43] <stdin> parkerw207: yeah
[05:43] <parkerw207> delete the rest ?
[05:43] <Popoi> oh yeah ARK, Thanks
[05:43] <stdin> parkerw207: so it just has those 3 lines in it
[05:44] <ant1matter> hey all, im having weird issues with kde 3.5.6. Ive completely removed it twice, cleared all kde files from user directories and everytime i reinstall even kdebase and kdelibs only my control-center is empty and most of the apps are stuck in Lost and Found on the K Menu. Any ideas? im running edgy.
[05:44] <parkerw207> yeah i am stdin
[05:44] <parkerw207> stdin its just sitting there loading :S
[05:44] <parkerw207> and its dont the same thing
[05:44] <geniusvicks> stdin, I have a problem with beryl. Tell me a pastebin site, i'll paste the eror there
[05:44] <parkerw207> just disapreared
[05:44] <stdin> ant1matter: make sure you are up to date, it was a bug in an earlier version
[05:44] <khaije1> i followed the instructions here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Firefox32_with_Flash.2C_Java_in_AMD64 but get a permission denied message. any help?
[05:44] <Popoi> Another thing.. I'm trying to change my default windows manager from Konkeror to Dolphin; I use 'sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager', and it says: 'There is only 1 program which provides x-window-manager. (/usr/bin/kwin). Nothing to configure'. How can I do it?
[05:44] <ant1matter> stdin: ive upgraded as much as i could
[05:45] <stdin> geniusvicks: http://pastebin.ca
[05:45] <ant1matter> stdin: is there another repo i should point to?
[05:45] <stdin> khaije1: follow *this* guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[05:45] <khaije1> stdin: cool, thx dood!
[05:45] <stdin> parkerw207: if you run it from konsole, what do you see ?
[05:46] <parkerw207> how di run it from console ?
[05:46] <stdin> ant1matter: which one do you have?
[05:46] <stdin> parkerw207: open Konsole, then type in: frostwire
[05:46] <geniusvicks> stdin, http://pastebin.ca/347705
[05:46] <stdin> parkerw207: and I mean Konsole, not a console
[05:46] <parkerw207> i'll bin it
[05:47] <parkerw207> hehe
[05:47] <ant1matter> stdin:  http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356 edgy main
[05:47] <parkerw207> !pastebin
[05:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:47] <stdin> geniusvicks: that's fine, you can ignore that
[05:47] <parkerw207> stdin : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4877/
[05:48] <stdin> ant1matter: that's the right one, try asking in #kubuntu-devel
[05:48] <ant1matter> stdin: ok thanks
[05:48] <stdin> parkerw207: hmm, have you installed java yet ?
[05:48] <geniusvicks> stdin, but I dont see any difference.
[05:48] <Agent_bob> hmmm using links for a file manager, how would you delete a file ?
[05:49] <stdin> geniusvicks: just press alt-f2, and in there type "beryl-manager"
[05:49] <ScarFreewill1> Agent_bob: links as in the web browser ? :P
[05:49] <parkerw207> errmm how do instal java/
[05:49] <stdin> parkerw207: do you have multiverse enabled ?
[05:50] <Alllex> Hi everyone- I've just got the ATI Graphics card install driver for Kubuntu. I ran it in the terminal, and followed all the settings, and now in my start menu I have an "ATI Technology" option. However when I click nothing happens? And I can't change the screen size in my Monitor + Display section?
[05:50] <soulrider> hello
[05:50] <parkerw207> yep
[05:50] <parkerw207> multiverse enabled
[05:50] <ScarFreewill1> hi soulrider
[05:51] <stdin> parkerw207: ok, just install the package "sun-java5-jre" then run "sudo update-alternatives --config java" and choose the one that looks like "/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java"
[05:51] <fritsch> ant1matter: yes it is the correct one
[05:51] <ScarFreewill1> sun java 6 is out btw...
[05:51] <fritsch> ant1matter: still there?
[05:52] <Riddell> ant1matter: what's in /etc/xdg/menus/ ?
[05:52] <BluesKaj> parkerw207, sun-java6-jre_1.6.0_01-ea-b01_i386.deb...or whatever CPU you are running , there's a 64 bit as well i believe
[05:52] <soulrider> ScarFreewill1: it has been out for a while already
[05:52] <BluesKaj> stdin, how goes it ? ... I've forgotten how to get FF to open to full page on launch. It's a minor irritation, but it bugs me nonetheless ... do you remember ?
[05:52] <ant1matter> fritsch: yep
[05:52] <soulrider> any java programmers here ?
[05:52] <ant1matter> soulrider: yep
[05:52] <geniusvicks> stdin, I get this error "The Composite manager has crashed twice in a minute and is therefore disabled for this session"
[05:52] <parkerw207> stdin ok thanks
[05:52] <ant1matter> Riddell: im currently reinstalling using the metapackage
[05:52] <soulrider> ant1matter: do you know if you can still use generics on arraylists on java6 ? i tried it and eclipse was complaining
[05:52] <ScarFreewill1> soulrider: i'm a learning one
[05:53] <ant1matter> soulrider: which jdk are you using?
[05:53] <soulrider> 6
[05:53] <ant1matter> soulrider: from Sun?
[05:53] <soulrider> i used ti be able to use generics on 5
[05:53] <soulrider> yeah
[05:53] <ant1matter> soulrider: might be a bug - not sure - check the eclipse group
[05:53] <stdin> BluesKaj: maybe with kstart, or by right clicking the title bar -> advanced -> Special Application Settings
[05:54] <soulrider> ahh alright
[05:54] <fritsch> ant1matter: what kubuntu realse are you currently using?
[05:54] <stdin> geniusvicks: did you make the right changes to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[05:54] <geniusvicks> I get this error "The Composite manager has crashed twice in a minute and is therefore disabled for this session"  when I try to chose Beryl as my window manager
[05:54] <fritsch> ant1matter: you are on edgy? if yes, your "package line" is correct
[05:54] <ant1matter> fritsch: 3.5.6
[05:54] <fritsch> ant1matter: this is your kde version
[05:54] <ant1matter> fritsch: yes edgy
[05:54] <fritsch> ant1matter: oki
[05:54] <geniusvicks> let me check
[05:54] <parkerw207> stdin it said i could install that package
[05:54] <fritsch> ant1matter: please try installing the meta package
[05:54] <ant1matter> ubuntu1
[05:54] <parkerw207> said there was an error
[05:55] <ant1matter> fritsch: doing that right now
[05:55] <stdin> parkerw207: what error ?
[05:55] <ScarFreewill1> !ping
[05:55] <ubotu> pong
[05:55] <parkerw207> one sec
[05:55] <fritsch> ant1matter: oki :-)
[05:55] <vk6five> knotify is a mail notification daemon for pop3 mail right?
[05:55] <ant1matter> fritsch: thanks for the help ;)
[05:55] <fritsch> ant1matter: does it work?
[05:55] <parkerw207> i'll bin it
[05:55] <parkerw207> !pastebin
[05:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:55] <ant1matter> fritsch: still downloading ;)
[05:55] <fritsch> ant1matter: mmmh, i think you could help me bett, because i am no developer ;-)
[05:55] <fritsch> ant1matter: better does this mean
[05:56] <parkerw207> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4878/
[05:56] <ant1matter> fritsch: ive been a programmer for 8 years - its literally taken years OFF my life i think ;)
[05:56] <fritsch> ant1matter: hehe
[05:56] <geniusvicks> stdin, there was a line aying Load "vbe" in the main file. I also added Load "dbe". THants okay right?
[05:57] <stdin> parkerw207: try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" then try "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre"
[05:57] <ant1matter> fritsch: went from c-c++-java-now im into rubyonrails
[05:57] <fritsch> ant1matter: me went from haskell into java, from there ice cold into c++
[05:57] <parkerw207> stin : dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[05:57] <fritsch> ant1matter: but i am not good at all
[05:57] <fritsch> !ruby
[05:57] <stdin> geniusvicks: can you post the file to pastebin, so I can check it ?
[05:57] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[05:57] <geniusvicks> stdin ok
[05:57] <ant1matter> ScarFreewill1: check it out - its the new rage
[05:58] <ScarFreewill1> ant1matter: ok
[05:58] <stdin> parkerw207: ok, try this "sudo fuser -vik /var/cache/debconf/config.dat"
[05:58] <ant1matter> From someone like me who has been bogged down by corporate BS and endless process crap - ruby on rails is a dream.
[05:58] <ScarFreewill1> ant1matter: i've been programing with with java and php for a yeah almost
[05:58] <ant1matter> ScarFreewill1: cool
[05:58] <parkerw207> its asking if i want to kll the process ?
[05:58] <fritsch> ScarFreewill1: php does not count *G*
[05:59] <ant1matter> fritsch: HA HA
[05:59] <stdin> parkerw207: yeah, kill it
[05:59] <parkerw207> ok now what ?
[05:59] <ScarFreewill1> ant1matter: i take it as a subject at school but they teach you only how to use strings and ints and array wow, LOL :P
[05:59] <wizz33> hello
[05:59] <vk6five> ne1?
[05:59] <vk6five> ne1?
[05:59] <stdin> parkerw207: now run "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre"
[05:59] <vk6five> knotify is a mail notification daemon for pop3 mail right?
[06:00] <hatta> ruby on rails, sounds like a song about a chick with a coke problem
[06:00] <fritsch> stdin: java6 ist already out for edgy? isn `t it?
[06:00] <ant1matter> ScarFreewill1: YES ive been there. My first job out of college was java, c, c++, unix and ORACLE. All new to me - I had no life but had a great time. That was a longggg time ago.
[06:00] <stdin> fritsch: don't know, I'm on feisty atm
[06:00] <ant1matter> hatta: yeah i know. I saw it for a long time and thought it was a joke but it really rocks.
[06:00] <fritsch> stdin: then there is it for sue
[06:00] <fritsch> stdin: for sure
[06:00] <vk6five> do I want to know what the Ruby-project is?
[06:01] <parkerw207> Stdin : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4879/
[06:01] <fritsch> !sun-java6-jdk
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sun-java6-jdk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <ant1matter> go to rubyonrails.com
[06:01] <fritsch> stdin: mmmh i got it installed
[06:01] <fritsch> stdin: on edgy and on feisty
[06:01] <stdin> fritsch: it may be in -backports
[06:01] <ant1matter> ruby has been around for years - great scripting language. Biggest competitor i think is python.
[06:01] <ScarFreewill1> ant1matter: i'm making a fps as a project i'm going to get like 9999999%
[06:01] <fritsch> stdin: it is from multiverse
[06:01] <ant1matter> ScarFreewill1: thats cool - what language you writing it in?
[06:01] <cox377> i need a bit of advice
[06:02] <vk6five> ah thks ant1
[06:02] <ScarFreewill1> ant1matter: java with some jme help...
[06:02] <geniusvicks> stdin, here it is http://pastebin.ca/347720
[06:02] <stdin> fritsch: yeah?
[06:02] <Agent_bob> "so you mean that it's exactly the same in every respect, except for the fact that, it's totally different and completly unrelated?"
[06:02] <fritsch> stdin: yes, even for amd64
[06:02] <vk6five> ps did I miss the answer on knotify?
[06:02] <Rossim1> i need help with network manager, for some reason wireless disconnects on me every few minutes
[06:02] <parkerw207> stdin: i got this now http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4879/
[06:02] <stdin> parkerw207: do you have adept open or somethinf ?
[06:02] <ant1matter> ScarFreewill1: cool - i was using opengl with glut years ago for gis stuff - fun
[06:02] <cox377> i was just playing around with the appearance settins under kde and i changed the icon size to bigger for the tool bar, but now when i go back i cant change the % back to 22% and some of the icons are not showing on the toolbar
[06:02] <cox377> is there anyway to reset KDE?
[06:02] <fritsch> stdin: but no browserplugin ... but does not really matter, ist long as flash is just working in the chroot
[06:02] <parkerw207> lol ooo yeah !
[06:02] <parkerw207> ha haha
[06:03] <fritsch> cox377: there is, you want an asycnronious one or a synchronious one?
[06:03] <ant1matter> \leave Restaring-in gnome(yuk) kubuntu reinstall done!
[06:03] <stdin> geniusvicks: ok, that looks good
[06:03] <cox377> fritsch: what do u mean?
[06:04] <fritsch> cox377: with the async you will loose all your kde setting, kopete, passwords, kmail settings ...
[06:04] <cox377> fritsch: ahh ok
[06:04] <cox377> what about with sync?
[06:04] <stdin> !info sun-java6-plugin feisty
[06:04] <ubotu> sun-java6-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-2 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 72 kB
[06:04] <fritsch> cox377: mmmh hardway ;-)
[06:04] <cox377> how do u do the async?
[06:04] <vk6five> mmm kill -8 knotify .... anyone think that's abad idea?
[06:04] <geniusvicks> stdin, so what do I do now?
[06:05] <cox377> fritsch: does that mean thunderbird & firefox also?
[06:05] <fritsch> cox377: nope
[06:05] <cox377> ok
[06:05] <parkerw207> ok stdin it says its installed , is that it now ?
[06:05] <stdin> geniusvicks: I think you need to logout and back in again, then press Alt-F2, and type in: baryl-manager
[06:05] <fritsch> cox377: only kde programms which store there config in /home/yourlogin/.kde
[06:05] <cox377> fritsch: ok cool
[06:05] <parkerw207> ahhh its works :)
[06:05] <stdin> parkerw207: try starting frostwire now
[06:05] <cox377> how do i go about doing iot?
[06:05] <fritsch> cox377: log out, switch to a text console, login with your user
[06:06] <fritsch> cox377: rm -r  ~/.kde
[06:06] <parkerw207> thanks stdin
[06:06] <fritsch> cox377: but, be warned: I say this again
[06:06] <stdin> parkerw207: no problem :)