[00:11] <tonyyarusso> !pie | Seveas, that's a cake, not a pie - I want my money back!
[00:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pie - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:12] <tonyyarusso> ah
[00:20] <PriceChild> calling troll on subnoob btw
[00:21] <PriceChild> subno0b is in #freenode asking if you can crack runescape
[00:21] <PriceChild> same ip/username. he was dodgy earlier but i didn't do anything. If he does anything more give no warnint.
[00:21] <PriceChild> *warning
[00:21] <PriceChild> a little pm afterwards wouldn't hurt either
[00:21]  * DBO waves at PriceChild
[00:22] <PriceChild> Hello there DBO, hope things are well.
[00:22] <DBO> better now
[00:22] <DBO> =)
[00:23] <PriceChild> Good good.
[00:23] <DBO> I got hit by a truck!
[00:23] <DBO> literally!
[00:23] <DBO> It's an awesome story
[00:23] <PriceChild> wow :O
[00:23] <DBO> but I have for the most part just been busy
[00:23] <DBO> how are you guys doing?
[00:24] <PriceChild> Good, I can't remember when you left us but no doubt things have changed a little since.
[00:24] <DBO> I bet they have
[00:24] <DBO> I am looking at user lists right now
[00:24] <DBO> lots of new faces (names)
[00:25] <LjL> hey there
[00:25] <PriceChild> irc council?
[00:25] <DBO> hey LjL
[00:25] <DBO> PriceChild, I left around the time that was just coming into fruition
[00:26] <PriceChild> after its 6 months, seveaz stepped down from it
[00:26] <DBO> i have noticed his presence in the Planet has been severely reduced
[00:26] <LjL> yes my rss reader is thankful
[00:27] <DBO> hehe
[00:27] <DBO> i enjoyed his posts
[00:27] <LjL> just kidding, i never check rss
[00:27] <LjL> hello tacone, can we help you?
[00:27] <tacone> LjL: no,sorry. just curious
[00:28] <tacone> bye :-)
[00:28] <LjL> some people do get it
[00:28] <LjL> few
[00:29] <DBO> LjL or PriceChild, i have not checked on what my status is as far as powers on the channels, but I doubt I will have time to use them nor am I up to date with whats going on
[00:29] <DBO> they should probably be revoked if they have not been yet
[00:29] <DBO> but I would still like to be allowed to hang out here sometimes =)
[00:29] <nalioth> DBO: can we help you?   :0
[00:29] <DBO> hey nalioth =)
[00:30] <LjL> DBO: they haven't. is there a compelling reason for us to remove them, or might we just as well suppose that you might shut down some troll on an ops call once in a while?
[00:30] <DBO> gosh its been a while
[00:30] <DBO> LjL, thats fine with me =)
[00:30] <nalioth> DBO: you trying to weasel out of responsibility?
[00:30] <DBO> nalioth, oh no, just I guess I should go read any updated codes of conduct and such =)
[00:31] <DBO> I have a present for Ubuntu also =)  I am updating the mirror at Western Michigan University in the next couple weeks
[00:31] <DBO> should be much faster =)
[00:32] <LjL> DBO: oh, there's little news, you cannot mention the word "kitchen" now, and your messages must have an even parity
[00:32] <DBO> haha
[00:32]  * DBO does not want to convert his ASCII to binary for parity checks...
[00:32] <LjL> we have scripts!
[00:32]  * LjL comes to the rescue with a script
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> I am getting tons of pings from srujan in ubuntu
[00:37] <nalioth> maybe he's echolocating?
[00:38] <LjL> Jack_Sparrow: that is ctcp?
[00:38] <Jack_Sparrow> I got a dozen of them from srujan is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(G Srinivas Srujan)
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> He left the channel just now
[00:40] <LjL> no, he's still there
[00:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Can you get his attention for me
[00:40] <LjL> i told him to stop
[00:41] <LjL> now he has indeed left
[00:43] <DBO> ツ
[00:48] <DBO> I'll be back in 30 or 40 minutes
[01:32] <LjL> Seveas can you add like a note "The Syntax field is optional" in the pastebin? some people are just slow
[01:33] <LjL> wii, goodbii
[01:33] <ubuntu> after all those months im still ban
[01:34] <ubuntu> y
[01:34] <LjL> yup
[01:34] <LjL> come back in 2108
[01:34] <LjL> bye
[01:34] <ubuntu> lol
[01:38] <PriceChild> LjL, :)
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> who was that?
[01:52] <PriceChild> wii
[02:05] <LjL> look at AlgorthmicContro's short conversation
[02:05] <LjL> that guy was banned until today's clear
[02:32] <hk2999> hey Pici can i get unbanned from ubuntu-offtopic now?
[02:38] <LjL> someone tell dawiz to stop being OT and being a factory of gratuitous pieces of sentences, please
[02:38] <LjL> i'm done with him
[02:40] <Amaranth> crap i knew i missed a channel :P
[02:41] <Amaranth> %whoami
[02:41] <Amaranth> !ping
[02:41] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[02:41] <Amaranth> !no ops is <reply>Leave the ops alone!
[02:41] <ubotu> I'll remember that Amaranth
[02:42] <Amaranth> oh crap
[02:42] <Amaranth> that is not what i wanted to do
[02:42] <PriceChild> oh dear...
[02:42] <PriceChild> not it isn't :)
[02:42] <no0tic> I hope :)
[02:42] <Amaranth> i meant to do opabuse
[02:42] <PriceChild> I'll grep for a backup Amaranth
[02:42] <Amaranth> no more messing with ubotu while drinking
[02:43] <PriceChild> fixed
[02:43] <Amaranth> phew
[02:43] <Amaranth> !no opabuse is <reply>Leave the ops alone!
[02:43] <ubotu> I'll remember that Amaranth
[02:44] <Amaranth> !no opabuse-#ubuntu-offtopic is <reply>Leave the ops alone!
[02:52] <soldats> can i be scanned for the router bug, to join #ubuntu i already changed ports to connect 8001
[02:53] <PriceChild> soldats, you aren't in -read-topic ?
[02:54] <PriceChild> but yes, you are fine
[02:54] <soldats> i got redirected there last night
[02:54] <soldats> i had to recompile dwm so i had to quit
[02:54] <soldats> thank you :)
[03:11] <Pricey> What jsut happenned to me.
[03:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Pricey: Did you just get redirected here
[03:14] <Pricey> Jack_Sparrow, hmm?
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Put it another way.. what just happened to you
[03:14] <Pricey> Jack_Sparrow, you do know who I am right?
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> It that you?
[03:15] <Daviey> am i me?
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Pricey: Sorry, was not paying enough attention.. great super bowl
[03:15] <vorian> Pricey: you're that British chap right?
[03:15]  * vorian hides
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> vorian: You could Ping him and be sure.. then run, run, run
[03:16] <vorian> haha
[05:01] <ubotu> FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (clone flood)
[05:57] <ubotu> astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (arabiannights)
[05:58] <Madpilot> dealt with. I'd been watching him anyway
[06:00] <jussi01> same thing in #kubuntu - dealt with.
[06:00] <nalioth> Madpilot: klined
[06:00] <nalioth> jussi01: klined
[06:00] <Madpilot> good
[06:00] <jussi01> nalioth: thanks
[08:17] <ubotu> FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)
[08:17] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)
[08:17] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)
[10:24] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-motu, LucidFox said: !queue is The Ubuntu NEW queue can be found at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue
[10:53] <PriceChild> LjL, the bots are messed up, they don't realise that someone is +o and keep -J'ing then +J'ing, deopping and opping
[12:26] <ubotu> ikonia called the ops in #ubuntu (jim-^ offensive behaviour and language)
[12:26] <ikonia> elkbuntu: thank you
[13:39] <PriceChild> Noticed the floodbots are still at it so I just kicked them all LjL.
[13:41] <no0tic> PriceChild, it's the well known -J'+J' dance
[13:42] <Pici> And complaining in -monitor that no one is opped.
[13:42] <PriceChild> I've never seen it before?
[13:42] <Pici> Me either, not to this extent.
[13:46] <PriceChild> erm the floodbots just rejoined?
[13:46] <Pici> oh noes
[13:46] <PriceChild> didn't think that was meant to happen
[13:46] <LjL> PriceChild, try just deopping everyone when that happens, the counter should resync
[13:46] <LjL> i rejoined them
[13:46] <PriceChild> LjL, ahh okies.
[13:46] <PriceChild> Oh it was just a counter messed up?
[13:46] <Pici> One of them is unnumbered now too.
[13:47] <LjL> PriceChild, it's not "meant" to happen. i've made them [mis]detect number of operators some time ago, in order to fix situations when each bot would deop each other
[13:47] <LjL> Pici: i know. try banning me in #ubuntu. that is, my hostname, which is...
[13:47] <PriceChild> I wasn't going to de-op them because i thought they'd just carry on getting ops and being silly and not worth a try.
[13:47] <LjL> Pici: 81-208-36-87.ip.fastwebnet.it
[13:47] <Pici> Why?
[13:47] <LjL> Pici: just try
[13:48] <PriceChild> don't ban <IP_ADDRESS> of course... 8-)
[13:48] <PriceChild> *hint* *hint*
[13:48] <LjL> PriceChild, thing is, there's some buggie somewhere, and sometimes they don't detect that someone has been opped, so they start miscounting
[13:48] <LjL> PriceChild: but if you deop *everyone* in the channel, that counter should go back to 0, so they reop and the count correctly
[13:48] <LjL> at least they usually do
[13:48] <PriceChild> cool
[13:49] <LjL> Pici: eh sorry, unban and reban, i forgot to give floodbot voice
[13:50] <LjL> Pici: ok, moment :)
[14:01] <LjL> sufficient testing
[14:01] <LjL> pff
[14:09] <LjL> uhm i've found the bug in the bots (it was pretty obvious... a MODE -o can be sent even if the user wasn't +o at all). hard to fix though, so i won't, and they'll again risk getting all deopped.
[14:10] <PriceChild> LjL, can't you do a test for if they're opped first?
[14:12] <LjL> PriceChild, means doing a /whois on them all... which is annoying, because i then have to check the whois replies in a different part of the code, and keep some status about "has everyone replied to whois yet?"
[14:13] <LjL> PriceChild: i won't bother, since all bots getting deopped has been a rare enough circumstance anyway. now if they (mis)detect an everyone-is-deopped situation, they will all reop *once*, and then not again
[14:13] <PriceChild> ok
[14:13] <LjL> PriceChild: *but*, they will always attempt to obtain +o whenever they need to -rR, so there shouldn't be a risk of them getting all deopped when they actually need to do something important
[14:14] <LjL> only thing is, when you notice they're all deopped... well, reop one of them
[14:19] <LjL> but perhaps i can do the whois thing easily enough after all
[14:27] <PriceChild> lots of de lately
[16:15] <Prez00> hello
[16:15] <Prez00> I already did my nickserv identify thing and still keep getting forwarded here
[16:15] <jpatrick> hi Prez00, how can we help you?
[16:15] <Prez00> any ideas?
[16:16] <Prez00> Password accepted - you are now recognized --- services. sets mode +e Prez00
[16:16] <Prez00> cannot join #ubuntu
[16:20] <Prez00> help
[16:20] <Prez00> cna anyone tell me why I cannot join #ubuntu?
[16:20] <ikonia> Prez00: you may have been banned
[16:20] <ikonia> I'm sure one of the ubuntu operator staff will be along shortly to help
[16:21] <ikonia> if you sit patiently someome will be along to help
[16:21] <Prez00> ikonia: I keep getting forwarded to this channel
[16:21] <Prez00> ikonia: ok, I'll wait, thanks
[16:21] <ikonia> Prez00: yes, possibly because you have been banned or there is a network exploit against your router
[16:22] <LjL> elkbuntu ping
[16:22] <Prez00> never been banned as far I can remember, I did nickserv identify thing..
[16:28] <Seeker`> @btlogin
[16:28] <jpatrick> Seeker`: broken here..
[16:28] <Seeker`> jpatrick: wfm
[16:29] <jpatrick> hmm, now it works..
[16:29] <Seeker`> there was nothing obvious for his nick / host
[16:46] <nalioth> folks there is a ban that was set due to the political spammers a few weeks ago
[16:46] <nalioth> it catches "prez" and anything like it
[16:47] <jdong> nalioth: shouldn't that just be a mitt romney ban? ;-)
[16:50] <Pici> nalioth: Have there been reports of politcal spammers as of late?
[16:50] <nalioth> Pici: not lately
[17:03] <ubotu> In ubotu, Schuenemann said: !chm is To open CHM files you can use kchm or xchm (sudo apt-get install kchm or xchm). To convert to HTML or PDF, install libchm-bin package and htmldoc. See also: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195457 and http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-convert-chm-files-to-html-or-pdf-files.html
[17:14] <ubotu> Daisuke_Ido called the ops in #kubuntu ()
[17:14] <Pici> Sigh.
[18:07] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, Martian said: !pi is pi is either 3 for small values of pi, 4 for large values of pi or 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510 and then some more.
[18:08]  * Pici rolls eyes
[18:21] <mneptok> missed saving throw. you die.
[18:50] <jussi01> !queue
[18:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about queue - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:50] <jussi01> someone want to do this one? [12:23] < ubotu> In #ubuntu-motu, LucidFox said: !queue is The Ubuntu NEW queue can be found at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue
[18:55] <ompaul> !queue is <reply> queue is the Ubuntu NEW queue can be found at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue
[18:55] <ubotu> I'll remember that, ompaul
[18:55] <ompaul> jussi01, ^^
[18:56] <jussi01> ompaul: :)
[18:57] <stdin> shouldn't that be "!queue is <reply> the Ubuntu NEW queue  can be found at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue" ?
[18:58] <jussi01> !queue
[18:58] <jussi01> ding dong the bot is dead
[18:59] <LjL> !queue
[18:59] <ubotu> queue is the Ubuntu NEW queue can be found at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue
[18:59] <jussi01> stdin: I would agree
[19:00] <LjL> what *is* that?
[19:00] <stdin> you mean the new queue?
[19:00] <LjL> yes
[19:01] <PriceChild> queue for packages to be built?
[19:01] <stdin> it's the queue of new packages awaiting approval to enter the archives
[19:01] <stdin> usually source packages, before they are built
[19:01] <PriceChild> and to be built
[19:01] <LjL> stdin: to enter universe? or main too?
[19:02] <stdin> LjL: yeah, any archive
[19:02] <stdin> main/universe/restructed/multiverse
[19:02] <LjL> !no queue is <reply> The queue of packages awaiting approval to enter the archive and scheduled for build is at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue
[19:02] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[19:04]  * jussi01 thinks it should have "NEW queue" in there somewhere
[19:04] <LjL> the page itself never calls it the "NEW" queue though
[19:05] <jussi01> LjL: true, but everyone else does...
[19:05] <stdin> LjL: look at the drop down menu
[19:05] <Daviey> !nickspam | you know who :)
[19:05] <stdin> there are several queues
[19:05] <LjL> !no queue is <reply> The queue of packages awaiting approval to enter the archive and scheduled for build (also known as the NEW queue) is at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+queue
[19:05] <ubotu> you know who :): You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu-ops - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also /msg ubotu Guidelines
[19:05] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[19:06] <LjL> !newqueue is <alias> queue
[19:06] <ubotu> But newqueue already means something else!
[19:06] <LjL> !new queue is <alias> queue
[19:06] <LjL> !newqueue
[19:06] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[19:06] <ubotu> newqueue is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue
[19:06] <LjL> !no newqueue is <alias> queue
[19:06] <ubotu> I'll remember that LjL
[19:06] <Pici> que?
[19:06] <LjL> Pici: ue
[19:51] <penos> wth am i banned at #linux
[19:51] <penos> i meant ##linux
[19:52] <Pici> er, okay.
[19:56] <jussi01> heh...
[20:07] <ompaul> and in #ubuntu or you should be with that nick :P
[20:11] <jussi01> hehehe, love !sensors
[20:11] <ompaul> !sensors
[20:11] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[20:11] <ompaul> hahaha
[20:11] <jussi01> might... :P
[20:11] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)
[20:12] <ompaul> and who wrote that
[20:12] <ubotu> FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)
[20:12] <ubotu> DRebellion called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[20:12] <jussi01> !-sensors
[20:12] <ubotu> sensors aliases: lmsensors, lm-sensors - added by uniq on 2006-07-06 20:43:11
[20:12] <jpatrick> WTF
[20:12] <jussi01> who is uniq?
[20:13] <Daviey> help!  trying to ban - Irssi: Channel not fully synchronized yet, try again after a while
[20:13] <jpatrick> jussi01: I'm more concerned over what happened in #ubuntu
[20:13] <ompaul> jpatrick, not to worry about it - it is an attack on the network
[20:13] <Daviey> i've parted and rejoined..
[20:13] <jussi01> jpatrick: aye
[20:14] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, Jack_Sparrow said: !hdaintel is one of them
[20:14] <jpatrick> jussi01: #k op from ages ago I think
[20:14] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry
[20:14] <PriceChild> Jack_Sparrow, at least you weren't editing ops :)
[20:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Time for a break...
[20:16] <Jack_Sparrow> PriceChild: I took crimsun's alsa-info script and created a log-module for upstreamdev...  seems to work just fine...
[20:16] <PriceChild> coolness
[20:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Just a couple more modules to go
[20:27] <nalioth> floodbots lagging?
[20:29] <jpatrick> !lag
[20:29] <ubotu> You have lag, I don't have lag
[20:29] <jpatrick> aha
[20:31] <PriceChild> Hey Tuv0k, how can I help?
[20:31] <Tuv0k> well, I was goingto ask for a ban to be lifted, but I guess it has....for now
[20:32] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)
[20:32] <Tuv0k> I did not know where one would go, until now, to seek help when you don't have the OP power to help yourself
[20:32] <jpatrick> again?
[20:32] <stdin> hmm
[20:33] <Tuv0k> PriceChild, I recognize your name from many places, thanks for asking. I'm fine now.
[20:34] <ubotu> h4L1m called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[20:35] <jpatrick> nalioth, nixternal: I think he didn't know better..
[20:35] <nixternal> nalioth: haha, if I quiet you kick/ban, and when I kick/ban you went for quiet :)
[20:35] <jpatrick> as in, just exploring
[20:36] <PriceChild> I'm talking to him in pm now.
[20:36] <nalioth> as am i
[20:36] <nixternal> fixed
[20:36] <nalioth> h4L1m: do you dial emergency services where you live to ask where the best price for milk is at the moment?
[20:36] <ompaul> ehh nalioth note #ubuntu
[20:37] <nixternal> rofl @ nalioth
[20:37] <jpatrick> h4L1m: du kannst zuruck nach #ubuntu gehen
[20:37] <h4L1m> danke jpatrick hat sich erledigt
[20:37] <nalioth> jpatrick: he is muted there
[20:37] <jpatrick> nalioth: I saw his last message..
[20:37] <h4L1m> nalioth, what is now going on?
[20:38] <h4L1m> i mean at #ubuntu
[20:38] <nalioth> ahh
[20:38] <PriceChild> h4L1m, ignore that, lets talk here about what happenned :)
[20:38] <nalioth> h4L1m: cloning is not welcome on freenode
[20:38] <ompaul> h4L1m, is not normal to (A) !ops
[20:38] <h4L1m> and to answer the question about milk: not really
[20:38] <nalioth> h4L1m: cloning to avoid bans is not welcome in #ubuntu
[20:39] <ompaul> not really do you just jump out and ask the nearest police officer the price of rice then?
[20:39] <ompaul> what does not really mean?
[20:40] <h4L1m> i'm sorry, but what the hell i've done to get treating like this??
[20:40] <ompaul> you did this !ops
[20:40] <ompaul> and now you have our attention
[20:40] <ompaul> is it what you wanted?
[20:40] <nalioth> h4L1m: just call your local emergency services and ask them where is the cheapest place to buy milk.  the treatment they give you is the same we are giving you now
[20:41] <h4L1m> aah man
[20:41] <h4L1m> i said sorry
[20:41] <h4L1m> what should i do?
[20:41] <PriceChild> h4L1m, I have explained to you how to view the access list in future, and why what you did got a few people annoyed right?
[20:41] <ompaul> don't do !ops
[20:42] <jpatrick> Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies)
[20:42] <h4L1m> PriceChild, right
[20:43] <nalioth> !messagethebot
[20:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about messagethebot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:43] <PriceChild> h4L1m, Good good. You are allowed back into the channel. Please be very careful with bot commands if you are unfamiliar int he future, asking someone if unsure even.
[20:43] <ompaul> msg
[20:43] <nalioth> why the devil can't you people LEAVE THE DAMNED FACTOIDS ALONE?!?!?!?
[20:43] <ompaul> !msg the bot
[20:43] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[20:43] <ompaul> !msgthebot
[20:43] <ompaul> hmmmmmmm
[20:43] <ompaul> ohh it is a dupe
[20:44] <nalioth> h4L1m: if you want to know something from the bot, /msg it, please
[20:44] <h4L1m> ok nalioth, thank you
[20:44] <LjL> nalioth, "!messagethebot" never existed afaik
[20:44] <ompaul> h4L1m, we are rather busy - calling us when we are busy gets us to drop what we are doing and then you get 100% attention, which is good if you really need us
[20:45] <ompaul> h4L1m, but to be honest watch how it is done, and then you will see when it is appropriate
[20:46] <ompaul> i.e. if in doubt don't ;-)
[20:46] <PriceChild> It has been explained to him, he's sorry, lets all move on :)
[20:46] <h4L1m> ok guys i thank to you a lot
[20:46] <h4L1m> and well
[20:46] <h4L1m> let's say
[20:46] <h4L1m> ciao
[20:46] <PriceChild> #ubuntu is *heaving*
[20:53] <PriceChild> incoming
[20:54] <LjL> i'm surprised there's not already a dozen of them in :)
 yep - - play nice
[20:54] <PriceChild> erm....?
[20:55] <PriceChild> sounds familiar?
[20:55] <LjL> aoirtroll?
[20:55] <LjL> both online, different hosts
[20:55] <LjL> but who knows
[20:55] <PriceChild> hmm ok
[20:55] <LjL> realname is "purple" for both
[20:55] <LjL> which client is that?
[20:55] <PriceChild> pidgin
[20:55] <LjL> ah
[20:55] <LjL> stupid pidgin
[21:11] <jpatrick> stdin: you there?
[21:17] <ompaul> PriceChild, it has got to be
[21:17] <ompaul> and I blinked eariler
[21:18] <LjL> i really can't link him to aoirthoir
[21:18] <LjL> nick has been registered for a long time, host doesn't seem to be a proxy
[21:20] <stdin> jpatrick: I am now
[21:26] <ompaul> LjL, ask php questions
[21:26] <ompaul> if he answers I would be more than 95% sure
[22:53] <PriceChild> Hey there konqui-89, how can I help?
[23:03] <konqui-89> PriceChild: I feel like I've been unfairly banned from ubuntu
[23:03] <PriceChild> One moment please.
[23:05] <PriceChild> konqui-89, do you go by a different name at all?
[23:05] <LjL> yeah
[23:05] <LjL> konqui-89: do you think calling people's name is fair?
[23:05] <LjL> people names
[23:06] <Seveas> 2008-02-02T21:24:50 <Pandab34R> ompaul: Thanks for being a penis.
[23:06] <PriceChild> notice also the same username... wondering why you'd want #ubuntu with that username anyway
[23:08] <ompaul> konqui-89, I hold I banned you fairly
[23:08]  * Seveas agrees
[23:08] <ompaul> konqui-89, I won't be removing any  time soon
[23:08] <ompaul> is there anything else?
[23:09] <ompaul> knoppix I guess Klaus would not like to think of you representing his community like that
[23:10] <ompaul> good call dude - it is always good to annoy other people in the name of someone who actually deserves a large amount of kudos from the overall community for kickstarting the popular disto on a disk#
[23:13] <ompaul> konqui-89, so do you still maintain you were banned unfairly?
[23:14] <Seveas> konqui-89, if not, then we request you to leave so we can keep track of who has an issue that needs to be taken care of
[23:14] <konqui-89> ompaul: yes. what I said, especially in its context was not deserving of a permaban from a great source of ubuntu support, especially from somone who needs it
[23:14] <Seveas> konqui-89, you called someone a penis. That's a no-no in any ubuntu channel
[23:14] <Seveas> end of story
[23:15] <konqui-89> LOL
[23:15] <Seveas> now if you have any other arguments, please let us know
[23:15] <Seveas> if not, bye!
 ompaul: I was simply asking if anyone knew of a better server for knoppix support than freenode.
[23:16] <konqui-89> Yeah, I fucking need help with my sound, what am I supposed to do? I cant seem to get much help on the ubuntu forums... this is my only other source of aid.
[23:16] <PriceChild> Well its a good job you weren't looking for ubuntu support.
 Just an off topic question, do any of you guys know where a good server for a knoppix channel is? I cant seem to get any help from the knoppix chan on freenode...
[23:16] <elkbuntu> konqui-89, you should have thought about that before you misbehaved
[23:16] <PriceChild> He's not even using ubuntu
[23:16] <ompaul> exactly
[23:17] <ompaul> and now he will go to #gnu
[23:17] <ompaul> and then we will repeat the k truck
[23:17] <elkbuntu> konqui-89 = pandab34r?
[23:17] <Seveas> yes
[23:17] <ompaul> yes
[23:18] <ompaul> * [konqui-89] #kde #grub
[23:18] <ompaul> hes at home
[23:38] <ubotu> FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (clone flood)
[23:42] <tomaw> both klined
[23:43] <ompaul> good
[23:43] <ompaul> well there are two proxies blocked for a couple of weks


[18:49] <vish> !away | easter_egg
[18:51] <vish> meeting channel seems to be flooded just with those today... o.0
[18:52] <easter_egg> ok
[18:53] <easter_egg> I will disable this function in my bouncer
[18:53] <easter_egg> vish, when I stay off-line, my nick change to |off
[18:54] <easter_egg> vish, *status> Module [awaynick] unloaded
[18:54] <vish> easter_egg: thx.. :) but mostly people avoid it.. i just happened to mention since you came back online now :)
[18:56] <easter_egg> ok
[19:51] <Penguinista>  I was wondering, is this some-kind of Gnome drawback or something else, why I cannot install two applications at the same time?
[19:52] <erUSUL> support in #ubuntu
[23:12] <gouki> Good evening. I have a question regarding the founder of a LoCo team channel. Currently the Portuguese LoCo team has, as the founder of the channel, a person that belongs to another LoCo. Would it make sense someone from the Portuguese LoCo to have such privileges?
[23:13] <erUSUL> gouki: ask nicely that founder to give the +F to apropiate people ?
[23:13] <gouki> erUSUL, he refuses. Say's it doesn't make sense.
[23:14] <erUSUL> gouki: can you explain more? what are the two LoCos ? portuguese and?
[23:15] <gouki> erUSUL, it's not a problem between LoCos, but the founder is from the Brazilian LoCo.
[23:15] <gouki> We are currently re-organizing everything within our team (mailing lists, wikis, etc), and we can't seem to do anything regarding the channel.
[23:15] <erUSUL> anyway.. i'm going to ping council members ... Pici; tsimpson nhandler jussi ....
[23:15] <gouki> xhaker, is the loco team leader.
[23:16] <nhandler> Yes erUSUL ?
[23:17] <erUSUL> nhandler: gouki here wants a channel "transfered" i guess it is the council the one that have to mediate here??
[23:17] <nhandler> gouki: Why does he say it doesn't make sense to make someone from the actual LoCo the founder? And what exactly are you unable to currently do that needs +F?
[23:19] <gouki> nhandler, sorry, but I can't answer your first question. Wish I could. Regarding the second one, currently nothing. Our idea was to have control of the channel the LoCo uses. For example, if one day the current founder decides to leave/not use IRC, the channel won't have anyone with full privileges.
[23:19] <gouki> We just thought it would make sense to have everything related to our LoCo managed by our members.
[23:20] <xhaker> Actually the answer to the first question is: "because i was first."
[23:20] <gouki> xhaker, you're actually quoting?
[23:20] <xhaker> nope, he said something along those lines
[23:21] <xhaker> let me check the log
[23:21] <nhandler> gouki: Well, I would like to talk to the founder before taking any real action. If there is a particular task you need done right now that you don't have access to do, feel free to ask. Susana also appears to have sufficient access to carry out most tasks.
[23:22] <nhandler> gouki: What would be great would be if you could compose an email to the current founder asking him to grant someone from the LoCo +F. CC the IRCC (and maybe the LC as well. both are private lists).
[23:23] <xhaker> nhandler: i wrote an email like that, but didn't CC. he didn't answer and i had to track him on irc to get the answer
[23:23] <xhaker> "
[23:23] <nhandler> xhaker: Well, he hasn't been seen on IRC in almost 3 weeks
[23:24] <nhandler> Could you try sending another email with the CCs? If there is no response, we can decide what to do at that point
[23:25] <xhaker> Talked with him on irc on Sep 1 according to the logs "Log opened Wed Sep 01 20:52:38 2010"
[23:25] <xhaker> nhandler: I'll write the email tomorrow and will CC to the lists
[23:25] <xhaker> nhandler: thanks for your time :)
[23:26] <nhandler> xhaker: Thanks a lot. Like I said, if there is a particular channel maintenance task that needs to get carried out in the meantime, feel free to ask
[23:26] <gouki> nhandler, thanks a lot!


[15:31] <dag_> hi & happy new year, i work music for a show and i search some samples sounds. do you know some adresses? thanks
[23:07] <RubbberDucky> Hey guys, ubuntu noob here wondering about audio interface support.  Ive got a presonus firestudio mobile and Ive got no idea if there are drivers for it or if it will work at all with ubuntu.
[23:41] <marc__> hi, got the following problem: after a new install i can log in but only see the ubuntustudio background after gnome started. the mouse moves but panel is missing an right click is not working.
[23:43] <marc__> the screen resolution is too high but i dont know if that causes the problem and also how to change that
[23:43] <marc__> sorry, i mean too low
[23:50] <holstein> w0w
[23:50] <holstein> that sucks
[23:50] <holstein> have you gone through any of the recovery stuff
[23:51] <holstein> i forget what that looks like right now
[23:51] <holstein> but theres all kinds of options from the recovery console in grub
[23:51] <holstein> ALSO, have you tried an ubuntu live CD on that hardware?
[23:52]  * holstein is wondering how well the graphics card is supported
[23:53] <marc__> i installed fluxbox and started gnome-display-properties. cannot put resolution higher than 800x600
[23:53] <holstein> hmmm
[23:53] <holstein> what card is it?
[23:54] <marc__> lspci says nvidia geforce 7050 pv
[23:55] <marc__> i got it working on my laptop, but my parents pc is giving me trouble
[23:56] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-kernel-common/+bug/195139
[23:56] <holstein> you might want to investigate that bug
[23:57] <holstein> and see if it applies
[23:57] <holstein> could be you need to install a proprietary driver
[23:57] <holstein> or some other config needs to be done to get graphics working without issues
[23:58] <holstein> do you know if you have sound?


[00:09] <Intelo> i added sudo add-apt-repository ppa:neovim-ppa/stable how do I remoe it?
[00:10] <sarnold>        -r, --remove Remove the specified repository
[00:12] <Intelo> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:neovim-ppa/stable -r
[00:12] <Intelo> sarnold: ?
[00:12] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge | Intelo As neovim is in the repo
[00:14] <sarnold> Intelo: most programs that take switches to modify their behaviour want those switches before the 'data' arguments
[00:16] <Intelo> thanks
[00:28] <maxFlexGuest> I am having trouble finding the appropriate system location to create a custom keyboard layout on Ubuntu (not to modify an existing keyboard layout).
[00:32] <sarnold> maxFlexGuest: setxkbmap(1) has a -config option that looks like it might let you store it anywhere
[00:34] <Intelo> Which folders of a user , if an app is put/installed, automatically are included in $PATH?
[00:38] <quadrathoch2> Intelo depends as there are multiple directories (or if it's installed globally or only for the user)
[00:40] <sarnold> Intelo: /etc/skel/.profile provides a default ~/.profile that will add ~/bin and ~/.local/bin to the PATH of whatever shell is using that file
[00:43] <Intelo> hm ok
[02:11] <gnUser> Guys I would like to be able to scroll through my ubuntu desktops by doing Ctrl + alt + scroll wheel. You think this is possible?
[02:17] <sarnold> gnUser: probably; what desktop environment or window manager are you running?
[02:23] <gnUser> sarnold: Gnome Desktop
[02:27] <sarnold> gnUser: here's a gnome extension that's several years old, it might work https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1438/scroll-workspace/
[02:27] <sarnold> here's another that looks newer https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1616/panel-scroll/
[02:54] <rodrigoty23> does anybody here use sm player?
[03:02] <Bashing-om> rodrigoty23: If someone here did, what would be your real question ?
[03:02] <rodrigoty23> does it buffer for you bash?
[03:03] <rodrigoty23> while your mid way in the movie?
[03:04] <Bashing-om> rodrigoty23: Can not say as I do not use the app. Await and see what others respond with :D
[03:05] <rodrigoty23> yup sucks you dont watch movies then
[03:07] <Bashing-om> rodrigoty23: Well -= rather do support as to watch movies, But late at night on the couch movies are intertaining :D
[03:07] <rodrigoty23> yup
[03:09] <rodrigoty23> so what you use vlc?
[03:11] <Bashing-om> rodrigoty23: KISS - I have no audio on this work station :D
[03:12] <rodrigoty23> that has to suck
[04:12] <gnUser> sarnold: sorry bro, I had to go deal with an emergency but thanks for sending those extensions
[05:59] <aum> with ubuntu 20 root-on-zfs, how do I safely move the entire disk from a dying 256GB SSD to a pair of new 1TB SSDs?
[05:59] <usibrfucwadyxj> DEBIAN IS THE BEST
[06:00] <aum> I'm currently attempting to dd the whole 256GB disk to one of the new 1TB ones, and hoping to boot off that and expand the partition
[06:16] <rfm> aum, if it's zfs you should add the new disks to the zpool mirrot, wait to resilver, remove the dyig one
[06:18] -usibrfucwadyxj:#ubuntu- IMPORTANT REMINDER: Ubuntu is going end-of-life April 1.  To ensure continued security patches and ransomware protection, please make sure you upgrade to Debian by April 1, 2021.  Thank you.
[06:19] <rfm> aum, once you get the zpool mirror on the big disks, you can figure out how to expand the volumes
[06:21] <rfm> And for pete's sake can we wait for April to do April Fools?
[06:22] <EriC^> xD
[06:42] <imrjd> hi folks
[06:53] <dstry> hello imrjd
[06:54] <dstry> how's it going
[07:11] <imrjd> cool
[07:14] <dstry> nice
[08:11] <jarnos> Do latest Ubuntu releases come with some locate variant installed by default?
[08:21] <guiverc> jarnos, `find` is included (findutils package)
[09:47] <IchiseX> hola
[09:47] <IchiseX> does anybody here know, which component makes the LUKS decryption on Ubuntu Desktop look so nice? I mean the UI component?
[09:51] <fenns> hi I'm upgrading my LTS to 20.04. It's hanging on the command "Installing the chromium snap"
[09:51] <fenns> been like this for several minutes
[09:52] <fenns> any ideas?
[09:53] <fenns> oh it's continuing now - thanks anyway :-)
[09:55] <IchiseX> fenns: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/m5j9ns/i_was_upgrading_to_ubuntu_2004_when_i_got_stuck/
[09:55] <IchiseX> maybe there's some helpful info there,didnt really check
[09:56] <fenns> thanks
[09:59] <IchiseX> does anybody here know, which component makes the LUKS decryption on Ubuntu Desktop look so nice? I mean the UI component?
[10:07] <diofantoz> hi, can i not resize partitions while the partitions are mounted? (and i'm in the OS)
[10:08] <diofantoz> all guides refer to booting a live cd
[10:19] <abff> diofantoz: no not generally, you need to be able to access the devices themselves and if the system you're using depends on those devices being mounted- then you can't be messing with them
[10:20] <diofantoz> abff: yea, ok
[10:20] <diofantoz> this is the system partition so
[10:21] <diofantoz> ty
[10:21] <abff> yeah get yourself a live usb to boot into while working on that
[10:21] <abff> I wish you success
[10:53] <silv3r_m00n>  is it necessary to create the swap partition right next to root partition ? or can it be a few partitions away ?
[11:03] <IchiseX> silv3r_m00n: Are you setting it up for a desktop/notebook?
[11:12] <FooDog> silv3r_m00n: as i understand it, you can choose any order of partitions without hesitation in case you using SSD. If you use HDD, than the first ones partitions will be a little faster than the last ones. And of course, there's no critical need for creating a swap partition, if you setting up operating system for home use
[11:12] <Maik> silv3r_m00n: these days you don't need to create a swap partition anymore, Ubuntu creates a swap file by default
[11:12] <silv3r_m00n> Maik: ubuntu has a swap file already ?
[11:12] <silv3r_m00n> means if it runs out of space on ram it will use the file ?
[11:12] <silv3r_m00n> without thrashing the system ?
[11:13] <Maik> since 18.04
[11:13] <IchiseX> silv3r_m00n: this might answer some more questions: https://www.maketecheasier.com/need-swap-in-ubuntu/
[11:13] <silv3r_m00n> Maik: what is this feature called by the way ?
[11:13] <silv3r_m00n> actually this is a laptop that i dont plan to shutdown, it may stay in hibernation or suspend
[11:13] <silv3r_m00n> swap is not needed for that as well ?
[11:14] <IchiseX> silv3r_m00n: read the article :) there it talks about hibernation. as far as i understood, you need it for that purpose
[11:17] <aquanaut> hi how to solve this error?/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lasdf
[11:19] <EriC^> aquanaut: are you trying to compile something?
[11:23] <silv3r_m00n> this is a brand new laptop with windows 10 pre-installed, i created extra space on the existing ssd for ubuntu installation, i have created 1 partition to be mounted as root, do i need to create something for the boot loader ? or how does it work ?
[11:26] <EriC^> silv3r_m00n: it depends if you're going to be using uefi or legacy
[11:26] <silv3r_m00n> there is an EFI partition of size 105 MB
[11:26] <silv3r_m00n> it belongs to windows 10 i guess
[11:26] <silv3r_m00n> now what do i do next
[11:26] <silv3r_m00n> i was told that ubuntu beside windows10 is tricky
[11:26] <EriC^> silv3r_m00n: ok, i'd create a separate efi partition for ubuntu
[11:27] <silv3r_m00n> i create a root partition in the free space area, i should add a new partition of type EFI ?
[11:27] <silv3r_m00n> and install bootloader in there ?
[11:28] <EriC^> yeah, you want to create a ~300mb partition and set the type to efi and also at the bottom of the screen where it says 'install bootloader to device' you should put /dev/sdX where sdX is the ubuntu hdd (and not sdX1 or 2)
[11:29] <silv3r_m00n> in that case, what happens to the windows 10 ? will be able to boot ?
[11:29] <silv3r_m00n> i guess the existing EFI partition is from where windows 10 boots
[11:29] <silv3r_m00n> there is only 1 ssd drive, and there is already an EFI partition, if i add 1 more there will be 2 EFI partitions
[11:29] <EriC^> silv3r_m00n: yeah, ubuntu will try to set itself first in the uefi boot order, and grub should have windows
[11:30] <silv3r_m00n> but if i put /dev/sdX  and not /dev/sdX1 or /dev/sdX2 how will ubuntu know which EFI drive to choose ?
[11:30] <EriC^> if your board has odd implementations, as many do, then you'll get windows once you reboot, and then you'll need to see what can be done
[11:30] <EriC^> silv3r_m00n: cause you set the 300mb to efi type
[11:31] <silv3r_m00n> the the existing 105mb efi partition ? what happens to that
[11:31] <EriC^> it's not touched
[11:31] <IchiseX> silv3r_m00n: This might help https://www.itzgeek.com/post/how-to-install-ubuntu-20-04-alongside-with-windows-10-in-dual-boot/
[11:31] <silv3r_m00n> its like 105mb efi + 200gb windows 10 + 80gb ext4 / + rest blank
[11:32] <EriC^> i thought ubuntu is on a separate hdd, it's the same one?
[11:32] <silv3r_m00n> EriC^: if its not touched, then how will ubuntu know to use the second EFI and not the first
[11:32] <silv3r_m00n> yes same
[11:32] <silv3r_m00n> single SSD
[11:32] <silv3r_m00n> single 512gb ssd and windows 10 pre installed
[11:32] <silv3r_m00n> now i create free space to install ubuntu
[11:32] <EriC^> ah ok, nevermind the efi for ubuntu then, just create root fs and it will use the windows efi
[11:32] <silv3r_m00n> the windows efi is 105mb, is that sufficient ?
[11:32] <silv3r_m00n> i read somewhere it should be about 500mb atleast
[11:33] <EriC^> it should be yeah, the ubuntu files are only 5mb here
[11:33] <silv3r_m00n> OH GREAT
[11:33] <silv3r_m00n> means i had to do nothing but click next
[11:33] <silv3r_m00n> let me do that
[11:33] <silv3r_m00n> will be back in a while after installation finishes
[11:34] <krmt> hi! Is there a way of using git from nautilus?
[11:36] <krmt> (with a GUI)
[11:38] <IchiseX> krmt: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/simple-nautilus-git-integration
[11:38] <IchiseX> and some more https://askubuntu.com/questions/4788/nautilus-git-integration
[11:41] <krmt> IchiseX: I had seen those, but they look ansolutely ancient. The second is not available for > 17.04
[11:43] <IchiseX> oopsie, sorry then.
[11:43] <IchiseX> why not use the terminal?
[11:43] <IchiseX> i know, that's not the question.
[11:44] <krmt> IchiseX: just because .... I am trying to see whether I can run everything from GUI, experiencing ubuntu as would my wife .... I have to say, overall not very happy.
[11:45] <IchiseX> how about a gui version of git?
[11:46] <krmt> IchiseX: such as git-cola?
[11:47] <krmt> IchiseX: that is actually quite good, but not well integrated into nautilus.
[11:47] <krmt> IchiseX: git-gui does not integrate at all.
[11:47] <krmt> IchiseX: the nicest I have seen so far is to fire up eclipse and import.
[11:48] <krmt> IchiseX: very elegant and fairly simple. Yet, you have to install eclipse which is not that easy.
[11:51] <krmt> IchiseX: which other alternative would you suggest?
[11:58] <krmt>  another question .... does libjack-jackd2-0 do anything useful?
[12:01] <tomreyn> it provides shared libraries for the JACK Audio Connection Kit
[12:02] <tomreyn> so other software that's compiled against jack would probably need them
[12:03] <krmt> tomreyn: I understand .... I thought ubuntu was not using jack though?
[12:05] <tomreyn> krmt: it doesn't, not the main flavor, other flavors do, specifically UbuntuStudio
[12:07] <krmt> tomreyn: this is what I thought .... I would like to rmeove it to be able to sue mycroft.
[12:24] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:24] <drupol> hello all
[12:24] <drupol> I'm unable to run apt-get update since a couple of days
[12:24] <drupol> I'm looking for help
[12:25] <drupol> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/nSMJcv2M/
[12:45] <summonner> change repos and see if that helps?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> looks like you have a ppa that's no longer valid mucking up the works
[14:09] <silv3r_m00n1> hi there
[14:09] <silv3r_m00n1> i encrypted my home directory following instructions here, https://blog.sensecodons.com/2019/10/encrypt-your-home-directory-using-luks.html
[14:09] <silv3r_m00n1> its working fine, is there anything else i need to do as best practises ?
[14:12] <cbreak> make sure you have backups
[14:12] <silv3r_m00n1> backups of data in home ?
[14:13] <silv3r_m00n1> doing that too
[14:20] <mfraz74> Is there an issue with the ddebs repository key?
[14:41] <radue> guys, i'm trying to set up an mpd server inside lxc (proxmox) and it seems i cannot set pulseaudio to work (no soundcard and x not running), any ideas if it's possible to have a headless mpd server? maybe all i need is get a soundcard and passthrough it to the container? Or is there any other way..?
[14:49] <knstn> Does Ubuntu Live ISO contain a memtest option for UEFI systems?
[14:50] <etronik> Hi all, how do I make Document Viewer the default app to open PDF files instead of LibreOffice ? TIA
[14:51] <debouncer> Is there any difference between installing docker from PPA and installing it with snap?
[15:16] <ducasse> knstn: afaik memtest is not available for uefi systems yet, at least not for free
[15:18] <Ravage> https://www.memtest86.com/tech_booting-v5.html
[15:19] <Ravage> https://www.memtest86.com/compare.html
[15:58] <Kobaz> #
[15:59] <Kobaz> having an issue with a Pantech UML295 USB 4g.  https://dpaste.com/7Y847HEBK
[16:00] <Kobaz> Initially the usb driver recognizes it as a cdrom, it switches modes to ether, and then i briefly get an ip address on enxd05785744e1f and then i get a usb device reset... the device itself works fine, it works on windows/mac without issue
[16:14] <Ravage> https://allmybrain.com/2020/04/20/pantech-verizon-uml295-usb-cellular-access-on-linux/ looks worth a try
[16:16] <Kobaz> Yeah, I found that too
[16:16] <nedR> etronik, right click a pdf>properties>Open with
[16:16] <Kobaz> Looks like ubuntu is already handling the mode switch. because it does get into cdc_ether mode
[16:17] <Kobaz> Ravage: my issue is that after the mode switch from usb storage to qmi, usb connectivity only lasts about 5 seconds
[16:18] <Kobaz> usb 3-3: USB disconnect, device number 22    cdc_acm 3-3:1.6: failed to set dtr/rts
[16:19] <Kobaz> Ravage: I have connectivity briefly, and then it just suddenly disconnects and reconnects (it does not do this on windows/mac)
[16:25] <nedR> debouncer, i dunno about docker specifically... generally snaps are more of a PITA. Andthe idea of running a docker inside a snap...**shivers
[16:28] <etronik> nedR, thanks for your tip, but that's what I do for each which is a pain, I want to make the choice permanent so that on souble-click always assumes sames app
[16:31] <etronik> nedR, but your tip help me find a way - thanks! under properties there's a button for file-type that will change setting in a general way
[16:32] <nedR> etronik, nice.. i guess it changed.. for me on 18.04 it is in File Properties>Open with
[16:32] <diofantoz> tried to resize a LUKS encrypted disk in ubuntu ... no go with gparted so i found that partitionmanager might work
[16:32] <diofantoz> but no go, it at least lists the disks but no way of resizing
[16:33] <Kobaz> I might wind up bite the bullet and get a TP-LINK TL-MR3020.  Which apparently does work with a Pantech UML295
[16:50] <tomreyn> diofantoz: resizing the crypto container is possible, but not simple. once you've backed up, try your luck with the cryptsetup utility in a terminal.
[16:51] <tomreyn> be aware that it wont resize any layers it contains, so you'll need to do those seperately, before (when shrinking) or after (when growing) the crypto layer
[16:53] <tomreyn> Kobaz: if you're running into a usb device reset then a different router wont fix that
[16:54] <tomreyn> Kobaz:oh, ignore that, i misunderstood what you're doing.
[17:22] <Kobaz> tomreyn: yeah it's a dongle to host the usb 4g modem and spin that off into ethernet
[17:44] <diofantoz> tomreyn: alright, i read something about that
[17:44] <diofantoz> but also that partitionmanager would do
[17:45] <tomreyn> i'm not sure what "partitionmanager" is
[17:45] <diofantoz> it's a gui partition app
[17:45] <diofantoz> ... might as well format the disk and setup again
[17:45] <diofantoz> might be easier
[17:46] <tomreyn> possibly
[17:46] <diofantoz> we'll see, thanks for the input
[17:47] <tomreyn> backup, boot from a a compatible live iso, try your luck with this partitioning gui, check whether it seems to have worked. if it didn't, use the live/installer iso to reinstall, then restore backups.
[18:14] <Kobaz>  /join #gnome
[18:15] <kgh> I'm having some trouble with DHCP on a freshly installed 20.10, anyone have any experience with this?
[18:16] <oerheks> kgh, we need more details
[18:16] <oerheks> !paste
[18:17] <kgh> the machine is an hp envy, ip link shows the interface is UP, tcpdump shows bootp/dhcp requests outbound, router link lights and linux both say 1GBps connection
[18:17] <kgh> I can't easily cut/paste from the machine since it's not reachable
[18:19] <kgh> I've tried manually assigning an addr, didn't help
[18:19] <kgh> I've tried xover cable to my laptop, didn't work
[18:19] <meandrain> kgh: you can't ping the router ?
[18:19] <kgh> I've installed 20.10 in bridge mode on a VM on my laptop, and that works
[18:19] <kgh> no, can't ping the router
[18:20] <kgh> tpcdump doesn't show any traffic from the router either
[18:20] <meandrain> what is your laptop ip and subnet ?
[18:20] <kgh> it's like the MAC isn't working, although as I said the lights and ip link seem happy
[18:20] <oerheks> oh a vm
[18:20] <meandrain> you can't cut and paste but you can take pictures and uplod to imgur
[18:20] <kgh> the laptop is connected to the same router
[18:21] <oerheks> must be a host network issue then
[18:21] <oerheks> btw with a vm, sure your hoste can paste.
[18:21] <kgh> no, the vm is the working
[18:22] <kgh> the machine is not working
[18:22] <kgh> just tell me what you need to see, I can type it out or something - I'm at a loss for where to look
[18:23] <meandrain> kgh: do the following:    type ifconfig (take picture), do a ping from machine to the router, then do "arp -na"
[18:23] <meandrain> if you can see the router MAC, you have network connectivity with the router
[18:24] <meandrain> if you can't see router's mac, is a network issue like bad cable
[18:24] <oerheks> the host is not working? weird
[18:24] <kgh> it's not a bad cable, I can use this cable on other machines
[18:24] <kgh> I've already said tcpdump shows no traffic from the router
[18:25] <meandrain> so you don't see router's MAC ?
[18:25] <kgh> ifconfig and arp aren't installed but ip link shows link up
[18:25] <kgh> ip neigh is empty
[18:27] <kgh> I just converted this machine from windows, I am sure all hardware works
[18:28] <oerheks> i think you whould fix networking on the host.
[18:29] <oerheks> are you running mint, btw?
[18:29] <kgh> no, Ubuntu 20.10
[18:30] <kgh> I'm not familiar with some of the new eth naming stuff, but this interface shows as eno1 - there are no traffic statts
[18:30] <kgh> ip link show: 2: eno1: <BROADCAST, MULTICAST, UP, LOWER_UP>> mtu ...  etc
[18:30] <kgh> all looks normal
[18:31] <kgh> the /proc/net/dev stats for eno1 are all 0
[18:32] <SlimTim> hello, can ubuntu run on  chromebooks?
[18:36] <oerheks> SlimTim, see our wiki, i would stick to chome os https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-on-chromebook#1-overview
[18:36] <kgh> so this isn't ringing bells for anyone?  how can ip link have L2 up but then nothing TX/RX on the interface?
[18:37] <meandrain> kgh:  might be a routing problem
[18:37] <meandrain> happend to me once but I don't remember exactly what was the issue
[18:37] <kgh> it's not routing, I can see the kernel sending DCHP requests on tcpdump, those aren't ticking any TX stats on the interface
[18:37] <SlimTim> Thank you oerheks
[18:37] <kgh> sorry - dhclient of course, not the kernel
[18:38] <meandrain> try to make it to work with manual IP
[18:38] <kgh> I already did - doesn't help
[18:39] <kgh> maybe the NIC driver isn't installed?
[18:39] <kgh> or it's the wrong one?
[18:40] <meandrain> kgh:   https://dpaste.org/rRJU
[18:41] <meandrain> don't forget to edit network driver name
[18:41] <kgh> does the filename matter?  I don't know much about netplan - my file is 01-network-manager-all.yaml
[18:41] <kgh> so create new file or edit that one?
[18:42] <kgh> also my renderer is NetworkManager, does that manager?
[18:42] <tomreyn> if this is a desktop / graphical system, you probably want to keep using network-manager, not move to systemd-networkd, as meandrain's file would
[18:42] <meandrain> networkmanager sucks
[18:43] <tomreyn> well, it works well enough for most
[18:43] <meandrain> tomreyn: it's faster using command line to configure network
[18:43] <tomreyn> meandrain: that's your opinion, not everyone may agree.
[18:44] <tomreyn> kgh: just to confirm, this is a VM running ubuntu 20.10 on some hp envy model where the host system is unknown, using an unknown type of routing, and unknown physical network interface?
[18:44] <tomreyn> or is this ubuntu 20.10 running bare emtal on this system?
[18:45] <kgh> baremetal
[18:46] <tomreyn> if "ip neigh" shows nothing then i guess it's either a driver, a firmware or a hardware issue.
[18:46] <kgh> shouldn't the 'netplan apply' cause the addr to appear in ip addr?
[18:46] <tomreyn> which network interface is it, vendor and device id, or rather   lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller' | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:47] <kgh> Realtek Semi RTL8111/8168/8411
[18:47] <tomreyn> netplan apply should apply the configuration that is configured, if it can be applied
[18:47] <kgh> driver r8169
[18:47] <tomreyn> those aren't vendor + device ids
[18:48] <kgh> you mean the [10ec:8168] and [103c:2b36]
[18:48] <tomreyn> right
[18:48] <tomreyn> also, what's the output of    cat /proc/{cmdline,version}
[18:50] <kgh> can't cut/paste -cmdline is BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.8.0-43-generic root=UUID=<uuid> ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[18:50] <kgh> running 5.8.0-43-generic from 20.10 - #49~20.04.1-Ubuntu from feb 5 2021
[18:50] <tomreyn> oh, it's offline entirely? no wireless lan?
[18:51] <kgh> it doesn't have wireless it's an older machine
[18:51] <tomreyn> do you have a smartphone you can connect with a wire to usb and tether through?
[18:53] <kgh> perhaps
[18:54] <tomreyn> see if you have those oopses in dmesg / journalctl -b   https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204343
[18:55] <tomreyn> (grep for 'BUG:')
[18:56] <kgh> there's no oops, there's an early message from NETDEV abotu transmit queue 0 timing out, and then a bunch of messages saying rtl_rxtx_empty_cond == 0
[18:58] <tomreyn> does it say " ------------[ cut here ]------------" above that message?
[18:58] <kgh> no
[18:58] <tomreyn> is this an onboard NIC?
[18:58] <kgh> yes, it's the MB NIC
[18:59] <tomreyn> is the bios current?
[18:59] <kgh> wait
[18:59] <kgh> yes, it says cut here
[18:59] <kgh> I had a grep when I saw it first
[18:59] <kgh> so it's an oops
[18:59] <tomreyn> right
[19:00] <tomreyn> "Hardware name:" (below that) says?
[19:00] <tomreyn> or run   journalctl -b | grep DMI:
[19:01] <kgh> HP 750-160qe/2B36, BIOS A0.08 08/25/2015, so no, the BIOS is not up to date
[19:01] <tomreyn> give that a try then
[19:01] <kgh> yup, thanks for the help
[19:05] <tomreyn> kgh there's also https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209839#c21
[19:06] <tomreyn> i have not checked whether or not that's present in your kernel version
[19:08] <tomreyn> kgh: so it looks like a NIC firmware / driver bug. bios update *may* help, and the driver patch should. latest entry in the bug report suggests this was merged into linux 5.11
[19:08] <tomreyn> !mainline
[19:10] <tomreyn> https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.11.8/ is the latest stable build
[19:12] <oerheks> good spot, bios update
[19:12] <oerheks> i was reading about secureboot, no reason not to, sofar.
[19:14] <tomreyn> A0.13 Rev.A is the latest BIOS for this ROM family
[19:15] <tomreyn> https://support.hp.com/gb-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/hp-envy-750-100-desktop-pc-series/8499646/model/8501666/swItemId/cp-177351-2
[19:17] <tomreyn> this also includes an intel me security update
[19:23] <DarHaram> Well got banned from #fedora within an hour after registered
[19:23] <jidar> looks like you should get banned from here too
[19:23] <DarHaram> They didn't like courting _shawn for "bosom recommend"
[19:24] <tomreyn> !ot | DarHaram
[19:24] <DarHaram> Jidar why? Is everything's big tex balloon of protocols and fairness?
[19:25] <DarHaram> America is spreading democracy did you see Atlas shrugged?
[19:25] <DarHaram> Other mesmerized by big Tex
[19:26] <DarHaram> Hold you down
[19:26] <DarHaram> Beequal with lowlifes
[19:36] <m_> I'm having trouble with understanding how Livepatch works. As far as I know it is supposed to somehow upgrade the kernel without rebooting my system. OK, but why does it need me to set up a Ubuntu One account? (And read a lengthy legal note?)
[19:37] <m_> In what way does setting up a Ubuntu One account help upgrading the kernel without rebooting my system?
[19:38] <tomreyn> m_: not. it'S a commercial service offering with a free usage tier. that's why.
[19:39] <tomreyn> developing and testing live patches takes a lot of effort which is why no one offers them for free.
[19:40] <tomreyn> except, there's a free for non-commercial (IIRC) use tier in canonicals' offering for ubuntu
[19:41] <m_> so i have to sign up to obtain the right to use them as long as i declare that i use this non commercially?
[19:41] <tomreyn> generally, if you have questions about commercial Canonical services, it's best to contact them about it, since this channel is mostly community / volunteer run,
[19:42] <tomreyn> !livepatch
[19:52] <m_> thanks for the links, reading them now
[20:06] <debouncer> is it possible to upgrade 16.04 ubuntu installer to install 20.04?
[20:07] <debouncer> maybe by modifiying some configuration files?
[20:11] <tomreyn> debouncer: no, installations use a base system image which is included in the installer iso
[20:13] <tomreyn> you could try using the zsync approach, but i doubt it'll save you more than a few megabytes
[20:17] <tomreyn> debouncer: i.e.   zsync -i /path/to/your-existing-ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso http://releases.ubuntu.com/20.04/ubuntu-<IP_ADDRESS>-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[20:17] <tomreyn> but it's probably just a waste of time
[20:23] <mendi> i have 2 empty hard drives formatted with makentfs, one of them shows up in bios boot order, any idea how? it creeps me up as it should be 100% empty
[20:24] <mendi> both 100% functional
[20:24] <debouncer> yeah, nevermind
[20:25] <mendi> could the firmware somehow be bootkited?
[20:26] <mendi> because i did reinitialize the drive to dos and then to gpt with fdisk
[20:32] <jarred> whats the fastest way to create like 10,000 symlinks
[20:33] <jarred>  in code, not from a CLI (unless spawning a child process is faster)
[20:41] <tomreyn> jarred: ask your favourite programming channel, i'd say.
[20:43] <oerheks> jarred, what have you found sofar?
[20:43] <oerheks> :-D
[20:44] <kgh> https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/link.2.html
[20:45] <kgh> int i; char path[1024]; for (i = 0; i < 10000; i++) { snprintf(path, sizeof path, "linkname-%d", i); link(OLDPATH, path); }
[20:46] <jarred> is there a way to use something like io_uring to batch the system calls into one (and is that faster)?
[20:47] <kgh> I am not an expert but I doubt it, you're not doing file IO you're asking the kernel to create inodes
[20:47] <oerheks> for i in {1..10000};  ln -s /dev/urandom /dev/random;  done
[20:48] <oerheks> no?
[20:48] <kgh> @oerheks that will spawn 10000 separate processes, will be much slower than syscall
[20:52] <jarred> kgh: okay i'll keep digging but will just use a for loop if i can't find a faster way
[20:55] <kgh> sorry - I should have pointed you to https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/symlink.2.html
[20:56] <kgh> link(2) is for hard links
[20:59] <kgh> I guess I should also comment that something like io_uring won't make it faster (even if you could use it for symlink(2) which it doesn't seem you can)
[20:59] <kgh> io_uring makes it async (non blocking) which is only useful if you want your program to do other work while the kernel is handling your IO request
[21:18] <Newb101> can anyone recommend an open source matrix client for ubuntu
[21:18] <Newb101> ?
[21:20] <oerheks> maybe there is a snap?
[21:22] <oerheks> not all irc channels allow matrix as a bridge, so i have no clue if there is a legit client https://snapcraft.io/search?q=matrix
[21:22] <Newb101> fair enough
[21:49] <Maik> Newb101: Element f.k.a. Riot
[21:53] <Maik> Newb101: https://element.io/get-started
[21:55] <isapgswell> hi
[21:56] <isapgswell> my keyboard appeared as pointer,  and my razer mouse appeared as keyboard; both xinput
[21:56] <isapgswell> Razer Razer Abyssus Essential           	id=15	[slave  keyboard (3)]
[21:56] <V|A> youre doing well isapgswell thats next level shit *thumbsup*
[21:56] <oerheks> nice, how did you do that?
[21:57] <isapgswell> oerheks i do nothing
[21:57] <oerheks> do you use a 104 button mouse now?
[21:57] <isapgswell> oerheks how to i check?
[21:57] <V|A> xD  i just cant take this
[21:58] <isapgswell> Gaming KB  Gaming KB  Consumer Control  	id=18	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[21:58] <V|A> i dont know ubuntu or linux but are they on the same USB hub ?
[21:59] <isapgswell> do you mean xhci?
[21:59] <isapgswell> usbhid
[21:59] <isapgswell> ?
[21:59] <V|A> directly connected too the mainboard USB interface ?
[21:59] <isapgswell> yes, external mouse and keyboard
[21:59] <isapgswell> notebook motherboard
[21:59] <V|A> havve you tried unplugging/switching ?
[22:00] <isapgswell> yes
[22:00] <isapgswell> i have a macbook air and no problem
[22:00] <isapgswell> xinput show correct
[22:00] <V|A> i come from windows i dont know much abbout how linux handles pnp devices or drivers .. shit jsut works for me mostly :>
[22:00] <isapgswell> for me is it working, but some input lag
[22:01] <isapgswell> it is working, althought input lag
[22:01] <V|A> i suggest somehow making the host forget the previously installed/connected devices the ntrying again. im just assuming there is a way to do so ...
[22:03] <isapgswell> it appears only when using external keyboard and mouse
[22:03] <isapgswell> usb both
[22:04] <raffaem2> I activated auto login
[22:04] <raffaem2> so it doesn't ask for password at login
[22:04] <raffaem2> now lock screen doesn't work
[22:04] <raffaem2> Super+L does nothing
[22:04] <raffaem2> how can I restore lock screen?
[22:05] <tomreyn> your ubuntu release, graphical desktop?
[22:05] <tomreyn> !enter | raffaem2
[22:06] <raffaem2> I activated auto login, so it doesn't ask for password at login. Now lock screen doesn't work. Super+L does nothing. How can I restore lock screen? Ubuntu 20.10, GNOME 3.38, LInux 5.8
[22:07] <raffaem2> tomreyn: provided above
[22:07] <tomreyn> and you use gdm3 as a login manager?
[22:08] <Newb101> @maik, is element open source
[22:10] <Newb101>  Apache-2.0 License
[22:10] <Newb101> by the looks of it
[22:10] <raffaem2> <tomreyn "and you use gdm3 as a login mana"> I don't know. How can I check this?
[22:10] <tomreyn> raffaem2: it's the default login daemon. if you've installed default ubuntu and not replaced it then you'r eusing it.
[22:11] <raffaem2> <tomreyn "raffaem2: it's the default login"> I installed Kubuntu, but I have replaced KDE with GNOME
[22:12] <raffaem2> (if you see <...> sorry, it's the Element client I am using and I forget to don't quote)
[22:12] <tomreyn> hmm, this may be the source of the problem, what does this output?  echo $GDMSESSION
[22:12] <raffaem2> tomreyn: "ubuntu"
[22:13] <tomreyn> and   echo $XAUTHORITY
[22:14] <raffaem2> tomreyn: "/run/user/1000/gdm/Xauthority"
[22:15] <tomreyn> hmm that looks good
[22:16] <tomreyn> raffaem2: how about if you try to initiate locking through the menu?
[22:16] <tomreyn> the top right power icon
[22:17] <raffaem2> tomreyn: there is no lock button. Only susped, restart, power off and log out
[22:18] <tomreyn> can you share a screenshot on imgur.com?
[22:22] <tomreyn> actually not needed this seems to be default on 20.10, at least on the live iso i just tried.
[22:24] <raffaem2> tomreyn: https://imgur.com/a/lXmovKd
[22:28] <tomreyn> raffaem2: you can checkl screen lock settings in settings -> privacy -> screen lock
[22:28] <tomreyn> also make sure that the   ubuntu-desktop    package is installed
[22:31] <tomreyn> hmm, for some reason, super-l is also not doing anything on this 20.10 VM i'm testing with
[22:34] <tomreyn> raffaem2: so it might be just a bug in 20.10. i searched for one, but can't find it
[22:34] <tomreyn> i searched a matching bug report, that is
[22:39] <raffaem2> tomreyn: settings -> privacy -> screen lock shows the settings of the screen lock correctly


[02:04] <liuxg> in ubuntu qml programming, if I want to put all of the files under a directory into the package, how can I do it? The directory may have sub directories too
[13:34] <timp> ahayzen: we're discussing your comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1393485
[13:34] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1393485 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "[SDK] Need a standard way to make an Icon look disabled" [High,In progress]
[13:34] <Femma> hi ahayzen
[13:34] <timp> Femma: I don't think there is information about showing 'disabled actions' in the header in the design docs
[13:35] <Femma> timp:  ok, so what you guys need from design is this functionality outlined in the header spec?
[13:35] <timp> Femma: but the example that ahayzen gives in the comment is a valid one. In some cases it may be better to not hide disabled actions but to show them greyed out
[13:35] <timp> Femma: what is your opinion on that?
[13:35] <Femma> timp:  sure, we could put in some app design guidelines to address use cases where they would be hidden v greyed out
[13:36] <timp> Femma: we could use some guidelines with motivation when they should be hidden and when greyed out
[13:36] <Femma> timp:  ahayzen I think that would cover it sufficiently
[13:36] <timp> Femma: yes :)
[13:36] <timp> Femma: I think so too, unless ahayzen has more questions
[13:36] <Femma> timp:  ok cool, I'll need a bit of time to do some research and then amend the spec
[13:36] <Femma> ahayzen:  anything else?
[13:37] <timp> Femma, ahayzen: using the UITK it is already possible to hide or disable an action in the header by setting the 'visible' or 'enabled' property to false. So the rest of the implementation is up to the app developers.
[13:38] <Femma> timp:  makes sense, I guess what is being asked for then is more app design guidelines then actual functionality that needs to be implemented
[13:38] <ahayzen> timp, yeah we were using the enabled property before, but that broke in the UITK landing
[13:38] <ahayzen> timp, eg when in multiselect and you have selected nothing, it makes sense to disable the actions but still have them visible so the user knows what they could perform
[13:40] <timp> ahayzen: okay, that is fixed in the (second) MR attached to the bug. It still needs to be reviewed so I guess that will be in OTA11
[13:41] <ahayzen> Femma, i don't think there is anything else, some app guidelines when to do visible vs greyed maybe useful. From what we have done you tend to set them disabled unless the action is when the view is in a different state
[13:41] <ahayzen> timp, ok :-)
[13:42] <Femma> ahayzen:  ok thanks
[13:42] <Femma> timp:  anything else needed from me?
[13:42] <timp> Femma: no, thanks. :)
[13:42] <ahayzen> \o/
[13:42] <Femma> :)
[15:27] <popey> beuno: "Can not create a new package with name hackerweb, multiple origins for hackerweb are not allowed" - is that intentional for clicks? It never used to be the case. (mhall119 uploaded an app, and I just uploaded one with the same appname)
[15:27] <beuno> popey, not sure
[15:28] <beuno> popey, maybe!
[15:28] <beuno> let me check with nessita
[15:28] <popey> I have to take your first answer I'm afraid!
[15:28] <beuno> "not"?  :)
[15:38] <popey> jdstrand: i have a web (node) app which is failing in the store (which passed locally) with 'binary' files inside. They're not binary, they're javascript :)
[15:39] <popey> jdstrand: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/4800/rev/1/
[15:56] <jdstrand> popey: can you request a manual review and file a bug against the review tools, attaching the click?
[15:56] <popey> jdstrand: sure
[16:03] <popey> jdstrand: bug 1564488 and set manual review, thanks.
[16:03] <ubot5`> bug 1564488 in Canonical Click Reviewers tools "Javascript files identified as binaries" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1564488
[16:06] <jdstrand> popey: thanks on both. approved
[16:06] <popey> ta
[23:07] <matv1> bzoltan do you have a moment?


[15:35] <daker> mzanetti: yo, do you know where i can the 3d appswitcher code in the unity8 branch ?
[15:35] <daker> find*
[17:29] <akiva-thinkpad> hello all
[19:04] <ahoneybun> hey akiva-thinkpad
[19:04] <akiva-thinkpad> ahoneybun, ah hey
[19:04] <akiva-thinkpad> ahoneybun, hows it going?
[19:05] <ahoneybun> akiva-thinkpad, sorry about replying the other message
[19:05] <ahoneybun> *not
[19:05] <ahoneybun> akiva-thinkpad, I just updated my SameSexMarriage app to include more states that have made marriage legal
[19:06] <ahoneybun> and my Ubuntu Beginner app has 14 users
[19:06] <akiva-thinkpad> Ah neat
[19:06] <akiva-thinkpad> congrats :)
[19:07] <ahoneybun> yep thanks
[19:07] <ahoneybun> also renamed it on the store to uBeginner
[19:08] <akiva-thinkpad> iBeginner knockoff :P
[19:08] <ahoneybun> XD did not know about that
[19:08] <akiva-thinkpad> So many linux applications append a letter in front of them
[19:08] <akiva-thinkpad> konsole
[19:09] <akiva-thinkpad> kdenlive
[19:09] <akiva-thinkpad> qsynth
[19:09] <akiva-thinkpad> qtcreator :P
[19:09] <ahoneybun> just really bad with 2 words as a name
[19:09] <akiva-thinkpad> gwibber
[19:09] <akiva-thinkpad> gnome
[19:09] <akiva-thinkpad> i'm working on the file manager app
[19:09] <akiva-thinkpad> I'm pretty happy with it
[19:09] <ahoneybun> sweet
[19:10] <ahoneybun> yea it is nice
[19:10]  * ahoneybun is rocking CM11 right now as he misses too many android apps
[19:10] <akiva-thinkpad> ahoneybun, ah but you havn't seen its latest incarnation :P
[19:10] <akiva-thinkpad> ahoneybun, do you think you can do me a favour?
[19:10] <akiva-thinkpad> Can you test my latest branch on your phone?
[19:11] <ahoneybun> akiva-thinkpad, maybe later tonight I need it for bike class since I'll be far from home and might need a working phone lol
[19:12] <akiva-thinkpad> the app isn't going to break your phone
[19:12] <akiva-thinkpad> :P
[19:12] <akiva-thinkpad> but fair enough
[19:12] <ahoneybun> not the app I always run devel-proposed
[19:12] <ahoneybun> if I could run rtm maybe I would try it now
[19:13]  * ahoneybun just likes having snapchat and kik now
[19:14] <akiva-thinkpad> mmmm I wish dpm was on
[19:37] <DanChapman> evening all :-)
[19:38] <akiva-thinkpad> DanChapman, evening
[19:38] <akiva-thinkpad> DanChapman, what will you be working on today?
[19:40] <DanChapman> akiva-thinkpad: i'm finishing off getting dekko ready for the 0.3 milestone release :-)
[19:40] <DanChapman> plus want to get some CI setup for it.
[19:41]  * DanChapman wants a jenkins bot to talk to in #dekko
[19:41] <akiva-thinkpad> dekko? never heard of it :)
[19:41] <akiva-thinkpad> !ops DanChapman wants a jenkins bot to talk to in #dekko
[19:41] <akiva-thinkpad> bah :P
[19:42] <akiva-thinkpad> oh wait, jenkins bot
[19:42] <akiva-thinkpad>  :S
[19:44] <DanChapman> akiva-thinkpad: yeah jenkins bot. :-D
[19:49] <akiva-thinkpad> DanChapman, This isn't slated to become a core app, is it?
[19:49] <nik90> frankly I am puzzled that it wasn't one already
[19:49] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, o/
[19:49] <akiva-thinkpad> hows it going?
[19:50] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: \o
[19:50] <nik90> good
[19:50] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, what you working on today?
[19:50] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: nothing much today, just enjoying the weekend
[19:50] <DanChapman> akiva-thinkpad: not that i'm aware of
[19:51] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, ah :P
[19:51] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: tbh I am not sure what else to do in the clock app
[19:51] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: I think I am just increasing the qml test coverage of the clock app for now
[19:51] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, nice work
[19:51] <akiva-thinkpad> the redesign is super slick
[19:57] <akiva-thinkpad> bah I'm kind of twiddling my thumbs today; Anyone want to do a review of my latest branch on the file manager app?
[19:58] <akiva-thinkpad> https://code.launchpad.net/~akiva/ubuntu-filemanager-app/1380575+1373346-toolbar-to-header/+merge/238470
[20:15] <PaoloRotolo> Hi all!
[20:16] <PaoloRotolo> Is there a way to record the screen on Ubuntu Touch?
[20:17] <akiva-thinkpad> PaoloRotolo, good question
[20:17] <akiva-thinkpad> PaoloRotolo, Does recording an emulator suffice?
[20:23] <DanChapman> PaoloRotolo: i think there is "mirscreencast" utility for that.
[20:47] <PaoloRotolo> akiva-thinkpad, DanChapman, thanks, I think I'll try mirscreencast :)
[20:47] <PaoloRotolo> I'm going to make a video for the ubuntu italy channel on Utopic release.
[20:48] <akiva-thinkpad> oh nice!
[21:29] <linus_> i have question
[21:29] <akiva-thinkpad> linus_, go ahead mr. torvalds
[21:29] <linus_> i wanna  execute touch-emulator of ubuntuphone on vmware
[21:30] <linus_> but it is not working
[21:30] <akiva-thinkpad> linus_, are you on windows?
[21:30] <linus_> no ubuntu
[21:30] <linus_> latest version
[21:30] <akiva-thinkpad> oh then I read that wrong.
[21:30] <akiva-thinkpad> linus_, 14.10?
[21:30] <linus_> yes
[21:31] <akiva-thinkpad> linus_, is there a particular reason why you want to use vmware?
[21:32] <linus_> my raptop is windows 8
[21:32] <akiva-thinkpad> (short answer is I don't know.)
[21:33] <linus_> if it is on vmware, is it problem??
[21:33] <linus_> sorry my english is terrible.. ;;;
[21:33] <akiva-thinkpad> linus_, okay hold on.
[21:34] <akiva-thinkpad> linus_, are you running windows as your operating system?
[21:34] <linus_> yes
[21:34] <akiva-thinkpad> Oh.
[21:34] <akiva-thinkpad> and you are running ubuntu in vmware?
[21:35] <linus_> oh~ yes i am
[21:35] <akiva-thinkpad> linus_, and you want to run the ubuntu touch emulator within your ubuntu virtual machine?
[21:35] <linus_> yes
[21:36] <akiva-thinkpad> linus_, O_O
[21:36] <akiva-thinkpad> I'm impressed
[21:36]  * akiva-thinkpad *clap* *clap* *clap*
[21:36] <linus_> ;;;;;
[21:37] <akiva-thinkpad> linus_, dare I ask, "Why are you using Windows 8" in the first place?
[21:39] <linus_> umm... i have one pc which is something in order to develop .NET application
[21:39] <akiva-thinkpad> linus_, ah
[21:40] <akiva-thinkpad> linus_, Why don't you just install ubuntu? It is better than Windows 8 in just about every other way.
[21:40] <akiva-thinkpad> Dual Boot.
[21:41] <akiva-thinkpad> linus_, also, what is your native language?
[21:41] <akiva-thinkpad> !finnish
[21:41] <linus_> C#
[21:41] <akiva-thinkpad> no, speaking language :P
[21:41] <akiva-thinkpad> !swedish
[21:41] <linus_> if i have ubuntu pc, i can solve this problem??
[21:41] <linus_> ah
[21:41] <linus_> sorry;;
[21:42] <linus_> korean
[21:42] <akiva-thinkpad> oh?!
[21:42] <akiva-thinkpad> lol
[21:42] <akiva-thinkpad> !korean
[21:42] <akiva-thinkpad> :)
[21:42] <linus_> thank you so much
[21:42] <akiva-thinkpad> Install Ubuntu! :D
[21:42] <akiva-thinkpad> Dual Boot!
[21:42] <linus_> ok, got it
[21:44] <vitimiti> Hi
[21:44] <akiva-thinkpad> but for c# and .net, you better keep a copy of Windows available. Ubuntu is good at developing C, C++, Python, Qt,
[21:44] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, hiya
[21:44] <vitimiti> Anything that is not MS intended
[21:49] <nik90> linus_: yeah you can't run emulator on vmware
[21:49] <nik90> nik90: for some reason it only allows one of the either to run at the same time
[21:54] <linus_> thank you nik, i will install ubuntu on my laptop for trying to develop ubuntu
[22:06] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, exactly :)
[22:06] <akiva-thinkpad> !cookie | nik90
[22:07] <vitimiti> I can't use QuaZip in my QML app, and I really need it. I think I have to add the library -lz to my CMakeLists.txt, because I only get the error "undefined symbol: _ZN6QuaZipC1ERK7QString" which translates to "QuaZip::QuaZip(QString const&)" with c++filt. How can I add the needed library? I only know how to do that in .project files
[22:08] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, I believe you go to projects tab
[22:09] <akiva-thinkpad> and I think you add a custom process step in run. I can't remember though.
[22:10] <vitimiti> akiva-thinkpad, thank you, will look there
[22:11] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, Yah I need to do something along these lines for the filemanager app to work on the emulator so...
[22:11] <vitimiti> I need it to unzip a database I download from an official web
[22:12] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, oh neat; what app are you building?
[22:12] <vitimiti> akiva-thinkpad, it's a Spanish vademecum
[22:14] <vitimiti> https://code.launchpad.net/~vitimiti/vadetux/trunk <- this one
[22:14] <akiva-thinkpad> vademecum ?
[22:14] <vitimiti> Yes
[22:14] <akiva-thinkpad> o_O
[22:14] <akiva-thinkpad> what is that?
[22:15] <vitimiti> It's like a medicine enciclopaedia
[22:15] <vitimiti> medicines*
[22:15] <akiva-thinkpad> ah very cool
[22:16] <vitimiti> It's really useful for people like nurses, since it also has a link to the technical sheet, that explains how to use and put the medicine. And it has more
[22:16] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, you could literally save lives.
[22:16] <vitimiti> And they are using versions of 2011 on paper. There have been changes in 2014 already that are not shown there, so I think a free vademecum that can be updated directly from the source would be good
[22:16] <akiva-thinkpad> how does it feel to be a hero vitimiti? :)
[22:17] <akiva-thinkpad> yah no kidding
[22:17] <vitimiti> akiva-thinkpad, it feels like I'm working on my passion, nothing else
[22:17] <akiva-thinkpad> :P pretty decent passion
[22:17] <vitimiti> I only want to learn how to program to improve medicine and treatment, actually. I don't have imagination to create something different, anyway
[22:18] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, are you going to get a bq phone?
[22:18] <akiva-thinkpad> living in spain and all?
[22:19] <akiva-thinkpad> or nvm
[22:19] <vitimiti> akiva-thinkpad, as soon as I can, yeah
[22:19] <vitimiti> If not, I'd get a Nexus, anyway
[22:19] <akiva-thinkpad> shouldnt assume you are spanish :P
[22:19] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, the mx4 is pretty rediculously impressive
[22:20] <vitimiti> Yeah, I'm Spanish. And, if the bq aquarius with Ubuntu is affordable, I'll go for it
[22:20] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, unfortunately we still don't know what the phone will actually be
[22:20] <vitimiti> akiva-thinkpad, yeah, I know there are changes, but still, the BQ one should be mine
[22:22] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, i'll take whichever one is quicker I suppose :P
[22:22] <vitimiti> akiva-thinkpad, since I'm Spanish, I will try to support the Spanish one. Even if I don't like this country that much
[22:22] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, ha :P
[22:23] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, Why not?
[22:23] <vitimiti> akiva-thinkpad, there are many things wrong with it that could easily be fixed but, instead, they stay the same. And it's so many things
[22:23] <akiva-thinkpad> I'm in economics as a sort of sub field, and I heard that entrepraneurship is quite high in Spain because of the high minimum wage that makes it difficult to seek employment.
[22:24] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, have you seen or heard anything along these lines?
[22:25] <vitimiti> akiva-thinkpad, it's a small minimum wage. Even if it's 680€, life in Madrid is as expensive as in bigger capitals in Europe, like Berlin. But still, we don't earn as much money as you would in, say, Berlin
[22:26] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, yah the minimum didnt seem that high to me either. interesting to get your insight.
[22:26] <vitimiti> Alright, I found out it has to be with find_package([package]) in the CMakeLists.txt. Now I have to learn how to use that for it to work with QuaZip
[22:27] <vitimiti> akiva-thinkpad, Spain has 19 almost independent governments, a central government (20 it goes), and then, there are other 32 under those, and under those, hundreds. It's not difficult to seek employment. The problem is most of the money is for the political class
[22:28] <vitimiti> But people like that separation, I don't know why
[22:29] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, strange. Do you think Catalonia will ever seperate?
[22:29] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, also when you were growing up, how were you taught to view Franco?
[22:29] <akiva-thinkpad> Very interesting fellow to say the least
[22:31] <vitimiti> akiva-thinkpad, they shouldn't, if they know what's good to them. When I grew up, Franco had already died, though it was recent. I was taught everything, the good and the bad. In our country, the educational system is not for thinking, it's for memorizing. You just have to memorize data senselessly, so you should learn everything Franco did
[22:32] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, Yah public education was not so great in Canada either.  About the debt, China bought most of it and now we are rebuying it, but we are far away from the whole banks collapse we were in. Though there are some banks with big problems, still, at least it's not like it's going to break it all
[22:34] <akiva-thinkpad> interesting
[22:35] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, our best performing school in BC is run by a private school of Polygamists in a Mormon Community.
[22:35] <akiva-thinkpad> odd fact :P
[22:35]  * akiva-thinkpad is going to go to the bakery soon
[22:35] <vitimiti> The US keeps saying Spain will be the next Germany. I think it's just so people don't stop investing here, which will collapse our economy and thus, European and US economies
[22:35] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, is the weather always nice in spain?
[22:36] <vitimiti> akiva-thinkpad, it depends on the place. There are places that have more rain than London and places that are always at 20-30ºC
[22:36] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, mmmm thats quite nice
[22:37] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, when is portugal going to join spain?
[22:37] <vitimiti> akiva-thinkpad, I don't think that'll ever happen. They are not even a democracy
[22:37] <vitimiti> oops
[22:37] <vitimiti> A monarchy, I mean
[22:38] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, spain is a republic I take it?
[22:38] <akiva-thinkpad> errm
[22:38] <akiva-thinkpad> sorry
[22:38] <akiva-thinkpad> portugal?
[22:38] <vitimiti> Yeah
[22:38] <akiva-thinkpad> bleh
[22:38] <vitimiti> They have a king, but he is not recognized
[22:38] <akiva-thinkpad> want to see an interesting data set?
[22:38] <akiva-thinkpad> on monarchies vs republics
[22:38] <akiva-thinkpad> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KVrAO9jKBCI7CxBfpbdm05Atu4WFESuIe5c6RMXP4Jc/edit#gid=1446216947
[22:39] <akiva-thinkpad> I compiled it a few months ago
[22:39] <akiva-thinkpad> Turns out the aggregate favours monarchal systems
[22:39] <vitimiti> I find having a president+prime minister as stupid as having a president+king
[22:39] <akiva-thinkpad> To me; it makes sense; Your technical head of state being a monarchy makes it non-partisan
[22:40] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, well the best republic is switzerland
[22:40] <akiva-thinkpad> but switzerland never really had a revolution
[22:40] <akiva-thinkpad> It was just napoleon mucking about
[22:41] <vitimiti> I find it more intelligent that it is a republic with just a president, not president + prime minister
[22:41] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, yah agreed, and their president is not even a distinguished position.
[22:41] <akiva-thinkpad> very non-grandiose.
[22:41] <vitimiti> Our king at least does a lot of things, yeah. He does act as a head of state
[22:42] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, Yep; agreed.
[22:43] <vitimiti> How do I find the modules of the CMakeFile.txt for the Ubuntu SDK? I need to know if libz is in the modules or if I have to add it in a different way
[22:43] <akiva-thinkpad> anyways i'm going to head to the bakery; gl with cmakelists :P
[22:44] <vitimiti> Thanks, akiva-thinkpad
[22:49] <vitimiti> Bye


 hello folks
[17:36] <wxl> howdy
 all good thanks
 I was trying Lubuntu 18.04 on a Dell Latitude E6400 and I observed that fan spins a lot all the time and battery lasts only 1h as opposed to the usual 5h with 17.10
 any clue?
[17:42] <wxl> i wouldn't consider that a development related question. you should go to the main support channel
 Sorry
 Can you pass me the link please?
[17:43] <wxl> the #lubuntu link here https://lubuntu.me/links/
[17:43] <wxl> at the top left
 Oh, so this is why I didn't find a Telegram group for the support, it doesn't exist 😭
 Thanks anyway
[18:10] <wxl> you can always use matrix! or just use the mailing list
 will do thanks


[08:52] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:01] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks, and Merry Christmas!
[14:54] <Voyage> Hi
[14:54] <soee> hiho
[14:54] <Voyage> Can anyone help me with installing skype and managing the conflicts at http://askubuntu.com/questions/713108/skype-unmet-dependencies-conflict-in-kubuntu-14-04-lts
[14:54] <soee> Voyage: i suggets to ask on #ubuntu
[14:54] <Voyage> soee,  I am banned from there
[14:54] <soee> why ?
[14:55] <Voyage> Thinking dispute with an op
[14:55] <Voyage> we both think we are correct
[14:55] <Voyage> op wins in channel
[14:56] <soee> what is output of: apt-get -f install
[14:56] <Voyage> done all that
[14:57] <Voyage> see http://pastie.org/10651012
[15:01] <soee> try: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[15:01] <soee> tahn update
[15:10] <Voyage> soee,  did that
[15:10] <Voyage> see http://pastie.org/10651012
[15:13] <soee> where did you ran this command ?
[15:14] <Voyage> the paste shows all
[15:15] <soee> i dont see command: dpkg --add-architecture i386
[15:16] <Voyage> soee,  line 293 and 301
[15:17] <soee> 293 is $ sudo apt-config dump | grep Arch
[15:19] <Voyage> it shows that the arch is added in past
[15:19] <soee> also why do you installs skype-bin, use just skype
[15:20] <Voyage> skype-bin is needed by skype
[15:20] <Voyage> its a conflict
[15:20] <Voyage> dont you know?
[15:20] <Voyage> I was debuging by installing skype-bin to see what errors come
[15:20] <Voyage> the error trail and dependency tree is listed in my pastes
[15:21] <Voyage> soee,  these are the conflicts pastebin.com/LPtssGUv
[15:21] <Voyage> do you have any idea how to resolve them?
[15:21] <soee> can you install: ia32-libs
[15:21] <Voyage> it is not recomended
[15:21] <Voyage> its old and outdated
[15:23] <soee> meh :/
[15:23] <soee> hard to say, i had not problems on 15.04, and 15.10
[15:33] <burillo> hi all
[15:34] <burillo> i've just installed 15.10, nothing is installed yet
[15:34] <burillo> and KDE telepathy doesn't work
[15:34] <burillo> i've created an account, but it can't connect. going to system settings -> online accounts and trying to change the settings of the connection crashes plasma
[15:36] <soee> burillo: there is some now bug with accounts i think
[15:37] <burillo> this bug is likely upstream as the same thing happens on Chakra
[15:37] <burillo> which isn't Ubuntu-based
[15:37] <soee> yes it Applications related
[15:38] <burillo> any ETA on when it will get fixed? any workarounds?
[15:38] <soee> i have no idea, better to ask on #kde-devel
[16:06] <cytadela8> Hi, whats in charge of updates popup in kubuntu?
[16:07] <cytadela8> Is it a piece of software from kubuntu developers?
[16:07] <cytadela8> or a KDE thing?
[16:09] <cytadela8> In other words, what piece of software is in charge of running apt-get update automatically?
[16:09] <linuxrunner> I'm the onlyone on other than you that's talking, unfortunately
[16:14] <cytadela8> linuxrunner: :(
[16:14] <cytadela8> I'll assume it's a piece of software from Ubuntu
[16:15] <linuxrunner> dunno
[16:27] <BluesKaj> cytadela8, it's a setting in your software center/package manager
[16:27] <BluesKaj> if you care to open it and explore it's options
[16:29] <cytadela8> BluesKaj: thanks, so I assume it's a piece of software from Ubuntu developers.
[16:29] <cytadela8> and this anwers my question
[16:29] <cytadela8> thank you :)
[16:42] <BluesKaj> cytadela8, or you can updatw and upgrade in thew konsole/terminal,with : sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade, and for major kernel and kernel module upgrades, sudo apt dist-upgrade
[16:43]  * BluesKaj dons his glasses
[16:43] <BluesKaj> phat phinger syndrome
[16:45] <cytadela8> BluesKaj: Personally I'm using always terminal and that wasn't my question. My question really was: "Whats in charge of updates popup in kubuntu? Is it a piece of software from kubuntu developers or KDE thing?". I'm not even using Kubuntu, so i wasn't able to check myself easly :P
[16:48] <BluesKaj> cytadela8, it would be the OS developers resonsible for package management since KDE is used with many different OSs as a desktop integrated with differnt package mangement systems
[16:49] <cytadela8> BluesKaj: Thanks, this is what I assumed, but wasn't sure.
[16:50] <BluesKaj> cytadela8, for example rpm on redhat, yum on suse, pacman on arch, all different package systems
[16:53] <BluesKaj> oops yast on suse ...it's ben a while :-)
[17:37] <leonhand1> Hi, what is the recommended way to do backups for "normal" users in Kubuntu these days?
[17:37] <leonhand1> i.e. something with a GUI that shows you that it's working and if possible even a way to configure it using a GUI.
[17:42] <BluesKaj> leonhand1, what kind of "backups", data or...?
[17:56] <aotea> How do I upgrade kde? I'm currently using KDE Plasma Version 5.4.2
[17:57] <rtech> hey, i just copied my user account from my desktop to my notebook and my notebook freezes at the sddm screen as soon as i hit enter after entering password
[17:58] <rtech> I assume its because my desktop pc has 3 screeens
[17:58] <rtech> does anyone know where this config is saved?
[18:04] <rtech> has nobody an idea?
[18:05] <soee> aotea: in Kubuntu you will have to wait for 5.5, developers are working on it
[18:07] <soee> rtech: im not sure, one of teh files inside .config folder probably
[18:08] <aotea> soee, ok thanks
[18:09] <soee> rtech: simple test, rename .config folder to .config_bak and try to login then
[18:11] <rtech> soee: sounds right, is there any possibility to debug the profile? because i would like to keep the profile on my desktop and my laptop as synchron as possible
[18:12] <rtech> or do i have to rename every file to find the wrong one :/ ?
[18:13] <soee> a lot of file syou can exclde by its name as they are not related to screen configuration at all :)
[18:13] <rtech> all right i will log out and check if it works with a new profile
[18:21] <alonebfg> hi all i wonder if somone could hel me please been using mate and ubuntu first time used kde desktop thought i woud gi it a try
[18:22] <alonebfg> how to I create a shortcut to chrome app launcher
[18:28] <alonebfg> anyone any idea
[18:31] <BluesKaj> alonebfg, which kubuntu?
[18:32] <alonebfg> 15.10
[18:34] <alonebfg> have installed chrome but cant find it i know unity i can search for it and lock it and mate found it as well
[18:34] <alonebfg> just not kde never used it befor so still learing sorry
[18:38] <BluesKaj> alonebfg, right beside the kmenu you can create a launcher by dragging icons into the panel
[18:40] <alonebfg> have tried that must be doing somthing wrong
[19:10] <rtech> sorry, thats my paste https://paste.kde.org/pfu7kmqa1
[19:12] <soee> check /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:13] <DarkEntity> Hey, I need help, I have Kubuntu 15.10 but my USB 3.0 external hdd wont show up at all and I need those files very badly. it does work on other computers.
[21:13] <russellg> Does it work if you plug it into a USB 2 port?
[21:13] <DarkEntity> russellg: I will check right now.
[21:14] <DarkEntity> russellg: Yes, on a USB 2.0 it works.
[21:14] <DarkEntity> But I am working with large files, transfering over USB 2.0 will take much much longer, I need the USB 3.0 port working.
[21:15] <russellg> Alright. I've actually had the exact problem, I think it is a BIOS setting. Let me try to find it
[21:16] <russellg> What motherboard do you have?
[21:16] <DarkEntity> russellg: ok, standing by.
[21:16] <DarkEntity> Its a Acer laptoip V572
[21:16] <DarkEntity> *laptop
[21:16] <DarkEntity> It does have UEFI.
[21:19] <russellg> have you recently ran a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[21:20] <DarkEntity> yeah, about an hour ago when all of this started... oh no... is it related?
[21:21] <DarkEntity> This is a 100% clean install, a new computer.
[21:21] <russellg> It shouldn't be...
[21:22] <russellg> Quote from a fourm: disabling "EHCI hand-off" and "Legacy USB 3.0 support" (support for USB 3.0 devices on legacy operating systems) in BIOS fixed the problem for me
[21:22] <DarkEntity> alright, I will do that right now, thanks!
[21:22] <russellg> Can you try going into bios settigns and looking for those settings? I specifically rememver EHCI hand-off fixing problems for me.
[21:23] <DarkEntity> I will come back to let you know.


[12:02] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:07] <mparillo> 'Morning. Upgrading to Qt 5.14.2 this morning for GG, and got a funny pop-up for encfs saying that it cannot be trusted. I assume this would be alarming on a released version.
[12:15] <mparillo> Other than that, after a re-boot, everything seems OK. I read somewhere that somebody had an issue with ksysguard consuming 100% of CPU, but according to top in a konsole, it is under 5% for me.
 does krita work?
[12:17] <mparillo> Didn't test that one; it is not one of the default favorites ;-) Let me restart my VM and test (not that I am any kind of expert on krita).
 it crashed on startup in my VM :(
[12:24] <mparillo> Krita is not installed by default on GG, is it?
 No. the only reason I tested it on GG is that FF has a reported crash when closing. Found that on GG it crashed on starting
[12:45] <mparillo> Sorry, I lost my WiFi, but I installed krita, started it, got the splash box, and it promptly crashed.
[17:25] <Mamarok> there is no bup package in 20.04, is there a reason for this? I wanted to try it with kup
[17:57] <RikMills> Mamarok: I have no idea at all what you are talking about
[18:06] <Mamarok> kub is a backup tool for Plasma, and it can use bup which is a git-like backup tool. It was in almost all versions since xenial, up until Eoan, but not in focal
[18:06] <Mamarok> without bub kub only uses rsync
[18:07] <Mamarok> since we do have an integrated backup tool, would be nice to be able to use its full power
[19:10] <valorie> hmmm, I recall some discussion about bup in -release
[19:10] <valorie> possibly there were issues but it was "nobody's problem" so was dropped
[19:11] <valorie> Mamarok: maybe file an ubuntu-bug bup
[19:11] <valorie> see if it's already been reported
[22:10] <Mamarok> I asked a question: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bup/+question/691041
[23:20] <valorie> thank you


[04:19] <econnell> is there any way to escalate a bug?  bug #82853 has existed since 2007 and is still a problem... but it was fixed in debian in april 2010
[04:19] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 82853 in openldap2.3 "Add support for the smbk5pwd overlay" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82853
[09:26] <econnell> is there any way to escalate a bug?  bug #82853 has existed since 2007 and is still a problem... but it was fixed in debian in april 2010
[09:26] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 82853 in openldap2.3 "Add support for the smbk5pwd overlay" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82853