[00:00] <SupaYoshi> Must issue a STARTTLS command first
[00:00] <SupaYoshi> anyone experience with that? trying to config postfix
[00:00] <SupaYoshi> but postfix wont fix itself
[00:00] <RNeville> k1l_, everything seem to work, I chose a 4.0 kernel to run, had other options
[00:01] <k1l_> RNeville: wait
[00:01] <k1l_> RNeville: can you please show a "dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999"
[00:03] <RNeville> http://termbin.com/du0q
[00:03] <k1l_> RNeville: ok, so you dont want to run the original 14.04 kernel (3.13)?
[00:03] <crazyadm> how to install php56?
[00:04] <crazyadm> without compilation
[00:04] <RNeville> I want to run the most staple , and perferable what ever Lightwork runs with best
[00:05] <k1l_> RNeville: both are stable
[00:05] <jim> crazyadm, you would then have to get the binary from someewhere
[00:05] <RNeville> do I need to install the control center?
[00:05] <crazyadm> oh jim
[00:05] <crazyadm> you are here
[00:05] <k1l_> RNeville: yes: sudo apt-get install --install-recommends unity-control-center
[00:05] <jim> yep
[00:06] <crazyadm> you mean php5.6.deb?
[00:06] <RNeville> seems like something else we removed
[00:06] <jim> maybe you go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for it
[00:07] <crazyadm> ok sir
[00:07] <k1l_> jim: that is not how it works
[00:07] <Bray90820> k1l_: No mode set does a lot of things to graphics that I don'y like
[00:07] <jim> k1l_, how what works?
[00:08] <crazyadm> there is xenial (php): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (default)
[00:08] <crazyadm> 1:7.0+35ubuntu6: all
[00:08] <crazyadm> but i think that's 7.0
[00:08] <jim> sounds probable
[00:08] <k1l_> crazyadm: yes, php7 is the standard on ubuntu for 16.04
[00:08] <DirtyCajun> so... since itguruindia got shut down... any opinions on cert dumps? (currently studying for Lpic-2
[00:08] <crazyadm> but i want php 5.6
[00:09] <crazyadm> with opcache
[00:09] <k1l_> !ot | DirtyCajun
[00:09] <orlock> DirtyCajun: No
[00:09] <orlock> DirtyCajun: GO any study instead of cheating
[00:09] <jim> probably you -would- have to build that
[00:10] <RNeville> removed some locks, it seem to me: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[00:10] <k1l_> crazyadm: you will need a 3rd party repo for that, like a PPA. the ondrej/php should have somehting
[00:10] <crazyadm> PPA has that?
[00:11] <jim> you can browse it and see
[00:11] <k1l_> RNeville: after a reboot there should not be a lock. so maybe another process is running and using the package management. then rmoveing the locks are making huge issues to the package system
[00:12] <crazyadm> launchpad.net?
[00:12] <k1l_> !ppa | crazyadm
[00:12] <k1l_> crazyadm: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php?field.series_filter=xenial   got it, but use at own risk.
[00:14] <k1l_> RNeville: after that install is done. choose one kernel base to use. and uninstall the kernel meta pacakge from the other kernel base. i am going afk now.
[00:14] <RNeville> sorry, saw rm command, and thought there might be something else to reinstall
[00:15] <RNeville> sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[00:16] <RNeville> so k1l_ is my boot drive going to over fill again?
[00:16] <crazyadm> why installing php5.6 require apache2, im not even using apache2
[00:17] <RNeville> and if so, why should I do k1l_ ?
[00:18] <yinflying> crazyadm: ?
[00:19] <RNeville> Bashing-om, just saw k1l_ last post, can you explain what he meant by un-installing meta package
[00:20] <RNeville> for kernel not used, that-is
[00:22] <Bashing-om> RNeville: IF you want to have 3.13.0-series as your base, need to remove the xenial stuff .
[00:23] <RNeville> k
[00:23] <RNeville> manual, or with apt-get commands
[00:23] <RNeville> can u send me a link to point me in correct direction
[00:25] <RNeville> kernel 4.0.* = Xenial
[00:25] <Bashing-om> RNeville: K; will do . show me a new ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' .
[00:27] <RNeville> Bashing-om,  http://termbin.com/1mm9
[00:27] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Also be aware there is a new trusty kernel in the pipeline : sysop@1404mini:~$ uname -r >> 3.13.0-96-generic .
[00:28] <RNeville> sorry, not following last post
[00:29] <RNeville> Bashing-om, nevermind think I follow
[00:29] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Let's see if your mirror has caught up . do : sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' . and we continue .
[00:29] <RNeville> new kernel will be Trusty 3.13.0-96-generic
[00:30] <crazyadm> how do i list repo
[00:30] <crazyadm> list repo i installed
[00:31] <Yst> Is there an Ubuntu off-topic channel, or only this support channel?
[00:31] <Yst> crazyadm: Do you use Synaptic?
[00:31] <crazyadm> no, apt
[00:31] <Yst> There's an easy way in that, but I don't know about other package managers.
[00:31] <Yst> Darn.
[00:31] <crazyadm> i don't have gui
[00:31] <Yst> Yeah, I use Aptitude myself, so I don't get a list either.
[00:32] <bazhang> Yst, #ubuntu-offtopic is is
[00:32] <bazhang> and it
[00:32] <crazyadm> synaptic is gui?
[00:33] <openupthesky> how can I run 32 bit executables in 16.04?
[00:34] <Bashing-om> craptalk: ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list " do what you ask ?
[00:34] <Yst> crazyadm: Synaptic has a command line-based GUI or can just be used on the command line.
[00:34] <Yst> bazhang: Thank you!
[00:34] <RNeville> Bashing-om, failed : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23205066/
[00:34] <Yst> crazyadm: For example, instead of "sudo apt-get install libreoffice", you'd use "sudo aptitude install libreoffice". The commands are pretty similar.
[00:35] <bazhang> crazyadm, /etc/apt/sources.list and sources.list.d for the repos
[00:36] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Not a failure. in software sources un check "CDrom" box . You no longer need access to this source .
[00:36] <bazhang> Yst, you can also use sudo apt install package
[00:36] <RNeville> thx
[00:37] <Yst> bazhang: Ah, I hadn't heard about that.
[00:37] <RNeville> Bashing-om, run apt-get upgrad now
[00:37] <RNeville> Bashing-om, run apt-get upgrade **
[00:38] <Bashing-om> RNeville: And all good now .. and your mirror has not got the -96 kernel yet ?
[00:39] <RNeville> k
[00:39] <RNeville> anything I can read to better understand the proper way to remove meta xenial kernel info
[00:41] <RNeville> will, Control Center eventually take care of upgrading to lastest Kernel -96
[00:42] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Not off the top of my head . Just a small thing once you understand package management .
[00:42] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Here is the book : https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_debian_package_management_prerequisites .
[00:43] <RNeville> thx Bashing-om
[00:44] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Awaiting to know that you have the -96 kernel installed . We want a backup kernel on that system -just because - prior to removing xenial .
[00:45] <RNeville> k
[00:49] <RNeville> Bashing-om, I have dialog box asking if I want to update software for this computer, should I wait until I'm running Trusty, again?
[00:49] <RNeville> kernel, that is
[00:50] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Go ahead and update, will make no difference as to the booted kernel .
[00:50] <RNeville> k
[00:51] <rexwin_> I am trying to chroot shell access following this http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/chroot-users-with-openssh-an-easier-way-to-confine-users-to-their-home-directories/
[00:51] <RNeville> dialogue box says: "Not enough free disk space)
[00:51] <RNeville> space " **
[00:51] <rexwin_> but the user joe when logged in can access the whole filesystem.
[00:51] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Ouch !
[00:53] <Bashing-om> RNeville: I have to question where the disk space is taken up ., in /boot there is ONLY 2 kernels installed ! .
[00:53] <RNeville> the upgrade is 192M
[00:54] <Bashing-om> RNeville: ' df -h ; df -i ' let's see what is not going on .
[00:54] <RNeville> I thought I just 230 Meg to start with for boot
[00:55] <RNeville> http://termbin.com/4opn
[00:55] <Bashing-om> RNeville: It is about 120Mb per kernel.
[00:56] <RNeville> Bashing-om, : http://termbin.com/hj7i
[00:59] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Small /boot . but we have room for another kernel to install .. looks to me like .
[00:59] <bababooey> hi
[00:59] <RNeville> basto I need "Linux Kernel related to Linux kernel version 4.4.0
[01:00] <RNeville> Bashing-om, : do I need "Linux Kernel related to Linux kernel version 4.4.0
[01:00] <RNeville> for software updates?
[01:02] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Well .. We are working to get rid of the 4.4 series .. I just am not comfortable leaving you with no backup kernel to boot in the event that something happens to the 3.13.0-95 kernel .
[01:02] <RNeville> if not, updates reduce to 62.3 MB
[01:02] <RNeville> k
[01:04] <Bashing-om> RNeville: K . IF and when we get the new trusty kernel installed we arre going to remove xenial kernels . If you can complete the update without accepting the 4.4 stiff . sure go ahead . We see what works out .
[01:05] <RNeville> k
[01:10] <atrom777> hi
[01:10] <AciD`> I debootstrapped a system and somehow, even when dpkg-reconfiguring locales, the system insist on using the unhelpful ANSI_X3.4-1968 instead of good ol' UTF-8.  This encoding is not well supported by the terminal as you can see: https://paste.kde.org/pjffkudrw. I can 'fix' the problem temporarily (for just one terminal) with export LC_ALL="fr_FR.UTF-8" && export LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8"
[01:10] <AciD`> but that does not work for apps launched outside of said terminal.
[01:11] <AciD`> Note: `cat /etc/locale.gen | grep -v \#` returns "en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8" and "fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8" and I have "LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8"" in /etc/default/locale. Any ideas how to fix that?
[01:11] <atrom777> hello
[01:11] <atrom777> someone
[01:12] <atrom777> hi
[01:12] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: you around?
[01:12] <atrom777> yes
[01:12] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Yeah .. but I am not much smarter than before :)
[01:12] <atrom777> me too
[01:12] <atrom777> ;)
[01:13] <Bashing-om> !ask | atrom777
[01:13] <Bray90820> Do you know much about uuid's
[01:14] <Bray90820> Bashing-om:
[01:14] <noobsaibot_> Hi! I just installed Ubuntu MATE 16.04, and it's great, but how do I change the GRUB2 theme? It's got a MATE background and weird icons and borders. How can I change it back to the default black and white menu?
[01:14] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Yeah .. a bit .. why ? What's up with UUID's on yoyr system ?
[01:15] <pragmatism> When I ask one of my processes who owns it, I get "debian-+".  That's not a user on my system.  What is it?
[01:16] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: It looks that y UUID might have been alterd
[01:17] <maxcell_> AciD`, try to put in /etc/locale.gen the following: fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8
[01:17] <maxcell_>  with 2 UTF-8 get it?
[01:17] <RNeville> Bashing-om, I have a dialogue box which wants me to restart the machine
[01:17] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: UUID will change if ya mess with the partitions . So yes UUIDs can and do change when an outside force acts on them .
[01:18] <AciD`> maxcell_ -> currently I have en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 and fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8 uncommented
[01:18] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Well . yes, we want to re-boot anyway .. boot up the -95 kernel, make sure it is stable .// Did you get the -96 kernel ?
[01:18] <noobsaibot_> Hello?
[01:18] <AciD`> maxcell_ -> when I reconfigure the locales I see that both are generated with sucess
[01:18] <maxcell_> AciD`, hmm
[01:18] <AciD`> (yes, this is confusing)
[01:19] <Whiffle_bat_wack> I'm still have video issues, but I have determined that it is a user problem, and not video settings problem
[01:19] <maxcell_> AciD`, and you try to restart the X or open another new terminal to see if it works right
[01:19] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Well right now I get this message "Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev)" then on the next line "alert uuid does not exist Dropping to a shell!" then it drops to busyBox
[01:19] <Whiffle_bat_wack> I have no icon launcher or top bar in my user account, but ubuntu works normally under guest account
[01:19] <RNeville> I'll try to get the 96 kernel, again
[01:19] <Whiffle_bat_wack> any suggestions?
[01:20] <RNeville> Bashing-om, I'll try to get the 96 Kernel
[01:20] <AciD`> maxcell_ -> yes, I rebooted many times since then
[01:20] <RNeville> Bashing-om, should I always use your nick first when posting to channel
[01:21] <maxcell_> AciD`, and the output of "printenv | grep LANG is?
[01:21] <Whiffle_bat_wack> I have ubuntu 16.04, but no icon launcher or top bar. Can someone help?
[01:21] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Encryption ? Looks as if grub can not hand off to the kernel where the config files are located .
[01:22] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Are you asking if the drive is encrypted?
[01:22] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Busy channel , and yes nicks are important . else ya get covered over and your repsonse is easy to miss .
[01:23] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Yes . is the file system encrypted ?
[01:23] <Whiffle_bat_wack> I have ubuntu 16.04, but no icon launcher or top bar. Can someone help?
[01:23] <noobsaibot_> Hi! I just installed Ubuntu MATE 16.04, and it's great, but how do I change the GRUB2 theme? It's got a MATE background and weird icons and borders. How can I change it back to the default black and white menu?
[01:23] <Whiffle_bat_wack> Icons are displayed on the desktop, but not the launcher bar or top bar (that displays time, etc)
[01:23] <AciD`> maxcell_ -> it looks like by default it's wrong (specially since I also modified my .bashrc with the right export (LC_ALL and LANG), and it seems it's not taking that into account. printenv|grep LANG returns : LANG=fr_FR.US-ASCII and LANGUAGE=fr:en_US
[01:24] <AciD`> this should be fr_FR.UTF-8
[01:24] <RNeville> Bashing-om, : failed : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23205223/
[01:24] <maxcell_> AciD`, yeah i see
[01:24] <RNeville> Bashing-om,  wanting me run: apt-get autoremove
[01:25] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: The file system is not encrypted
[01:25] <maxcell_> AciD`, comment your .bashrc and run locale-gen
[01:26] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Note I got this message with GRUB_DEFAULT=0 and acpi=off
[01:26] <Whiffle_bat_wack> #video
[01:26] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Just an advisory .. Howevcer, did k1l_ not have you run "autoremove" . then where did all this come from ( mostly 32 bit stuff ) ?
[01:27] <AciD`> maxcell_ -> this is what I get from a newly opened terminal (after having commented out the 2 LANG and LC_ALL export) : https://paste.kde.org/pollbfhuz
[01:27] <RNeville> I think the update I just did
[01:27] <AciD`> as a normal user
[01:27] <Intee> Sup guys, I got a really serious question that I need everyones help with.
[01:27] <RNeville> Bashing-om, I think the update I just did **
[01:27] <maxcell_> AciD`, locale-gen with super user
[01:28] <Intee> Found a bird and the boss said we can keep it as a office pet. We need a super cool, nerdy, techie style name for him :D
[01:28] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Well, we know you have and are having booting issues . Ya want to try and see if we can boot this system from grub ?
[01:28] <AciD`> wait, with root I do not have this problem, and the printenv|grep LANG returns the correct "LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8"
[01:28] <AciD`> the command output with root : https://paste.kde.org/pbnelsssu
[01:28] <maxcell_> AciD`, ok wait
[01:29] <maxcell_> ls -l /usr/lib/locale/ |grep locale-archive output
[01:30] <Bashing-om> RNeville: I am all for a clean system - and a quick look I do not see anything that bothers me to be removed. Go ahead and get the space back with ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' ,
[01:30] <AciD`> maxcell_ -> this command line does not work (there is not 'output' file or directory)
[01:30] <RNeville> Bashing-om, thx
[01:30] <maxcell_> AciD`, i mean i want to see the output of the command
[01:31] <maxcell_> AciD`, ^^ just  " ls -l /usr/lib/locale/ |grep locale-archive"
[01:31] <AciD`> maxcell_ -> https://paste.kde.org/pylqjoumq
[01:32] <RNeville> Bashing-om, http://termbin.com/j7x9
[01:34] <Bashing-om> RNeville: :) .. outstanding .. reboot into the new kernel -96 makung sure it is stable and functional ! .. and then also same same for the -95 kernel . IF you are good on both we can then remove xenial .
[01:34] <RNeville> Bashing-om, k
[01:35] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Yes
[01:35] <maxcell_> AciD`, cp your locale-archive file to a locale-archive.bkp file
[01:35] <AciD`> then remove it?
[01:35] <AciD`> and regenerate it?
[01:35] <maxcell_> AciD`, exactly
[01:36] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: DRS305 wrote the nook on grb, Good reads : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 ; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594052 .
[01:36] <AciD`> hm
[01:37] <AciD`> maxcell_ -> note : the backup you put in the same folder gets erased by locale-gen
[01:37] <AciD`> good to know
[01:37] <AciD`> :\
[01:37] <maxcell_> AciD`, shit
[01:37] <maxcell_> AciD`, that wasnt expected
[01:37] <AciD`> yep, but I got a brand new locale-archive file
[01:37] <AciD`> too bad I cannot compare the md5 to see if that was it
[01:37] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Could I try finding my UUID and manually entering it to see if that makes a difference?
[01:38] <maxcell_> AciD`, thats fine, i compare the size of your with mine here
[01:38] <maxcell_> AciD`, your old locale-archive was too small
[01:38] <AciD`> 1674816 sept. 19 15:36 locale-archive
[01:38] <AciD`> is that right?
[01:38] <AciD`> it's 1.6Mio
[01:38] <maxcell_> 7347664 Set 18 01:06 locale-archive
[01:38] <maxcell_> mine have 7mb
[01:38] <AciD`> how many locales do you have though?
[01:39] <maxcell_> how do i see?
[01:39] <AciD`> https://paste.kde.org/p3mygku6b
[01:39] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: What we do is find the config files for grub, and pass these locations as a boot parameters to the kernel . Once booted, then re-install grub .
[01:39] <AciD`> or just strings /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive|head
[01:40] <AciD`> that should show you the locales inside that file
[01:40] <Bray90820> How would I do that
[01:40] <maxcell_> AciD`, https://paste.kde.org/pazscp0ka
[01:40] <AciD`> well, that explains the size :)
[01:41] <RNeville> Bashing-om, 96 seems to work fine, going to try 95
[01:41] <maxcell_> AciD`, yeah... how do you remove the locales you arent using?
[01:41] <AciD`> still, I'm very confused about why this just does not work for my normal user
[01:41] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Depends, are you at a grub > prompt . or at a grub rescue prompt ?
[01:41] <AciD`> maxcell_ -> dpkg-reconfigure locales
[01:41] <maxcell_> AciD`, yes we need to keep going
[01:41] <Bashing-om> RNeville: We look'n good :) !
[01:41] <maxcell_> AciD`, dpkg-reconfigure deleted everthing?
[01:42] <RNeville> Bashing-om, k, bye for now - Lord willing
[01:42] <AciD`> no, it gives you the choice to select which locales you want
[01:42] <maxcell_> AciD`, get it
[01:42] <Bray90820> Actually right now I am booted to unity
[01:42] <Bray90820> But am gonna restart to check something
[01:42] <AciD`> bascially, it just commend out lines in /etc/locale.gen
[01:42] <AciD`> *comment
[01:42] <maxcell_> AciD`, i think it does more because, my locale-gen is all commented
[01:43] <AciD`> really? weird
[01:43] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Fingers crossed .
[01:43] <maxcell_> let me show you
[01:43] <maxcell_> https://paste.kde.org/pmojfl31n
[01:44] <AciD`> which distro are you using?
[01:44] <maxcell_> 16.04
[01:44] <AciD`> weird
[01:44] <maxcell_> how is your locale-gen file
[01:46] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Didn't work
[01:46] <Bray90820> So what should I do with what you are suggesting
[01:46] <AciD`> maxcell_ -> what do you mean?
[01:46] <maxcell_> AciD`, cat /etc/locale-gen
[01:47] <AciD`> maxcell_ -> as I said, everything is commented out apart the 2 lines for fr_FR and en_US
[01:48] <maxcell_> AciD`, ok lets keep going to see if we can fix
[01:48] <maxcell_> AciD`, so you did locale-gen and it generates a new one
[01:48] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: I got to be away for a few minutes . boot to grub menue , and 'c' key for a command line .
[01:48] <maxcell_> AciD`, it fix the problem?
[01:48] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Am there
[01:48] <Bray90820> I'll see you when you return
[01:49] <AciD`> maxcell_ -> unfortunately no
[01:49] <AciD`> I'll reboot just to see if that changed anything, brb
[01:49] <maxcell_> AciD`, ok, when you try to locale-gen as a normal user, the same message saying "Permission Denied" shows?
[01:49] <maxcell_> oh right
[01:50] <AciD`> well, locale-gen is supposed to be run as root only so it's normal
[01:50] <maxcell_> ok
[01:51] <AciD`> nop, still bugged
[01:51] <AciD`> damn it
[01:52] <maxcell_> AciD`, there is something related to LANG in /etc/environments?
[01:52] <maxcell_> environment*
[01:52] <AciD`> maxcell_ -> nop, only a PATH setting
[01:52] <maxcell_> ok
[01:52] <maxcell_> AciD`, lets give the last try in something
[01:52] <maxcell_> AciD`, export your LANGs to result C
[01:53] <maxcell_> wich means default
[01:53] <AciD`> ok
[01:53] <maxcell_> AciD`, export LANG and LANGUAGE=C
[01:54] <maxcell_> AciD`, and show me the output
[01:54] <AciD`> maxcell_ -> https://paste.kde.org/pgealcxwt
[01:55] <maxcell_> AciD`, LC_CTYPE and LC_ALL=C too
[01:55] <AciD`> maxcell_ -> previously it was LANGUAGE = "fr:en_US" and LANG = "fr_FR.US-ASCII"
[01:55] <maxcell_> export
[01:55] <maxcell_> AciD`, ok
[01:55] <RNeville> Bashing-om, ; couldn't see 95 even after running update-grub
[01:55] <RNeville> Bashing-om, http://termbin.com/0m8l
[01:55] <AciD`> once I do LC_ALL=C, it removes the errors
[01:56] <AciD`> which is normal. But I do not see why it keeps setting it back to f*cking ascii while I set up and want utf-8
[01:56] <maxcell_> AciD`, but when you set "C" it gets the default UTF8 and works normally?
[01:57] <AciD`> not sure if that's related, but `echo $0` returns zsh (which is my default shell)
[01:57] <OerHeks> RNeville, linux-headers-3.13.0-95-generic and linux-headers-3.13.0-95 missing?
[01:58] <maxcell_> AciD`, if it fixes the words means that "C" is using UTF8 right?
[01:58] <maxcell_> AciD`, i think that when you set it to "C" it gets the /etc/default/locale
[01:59] <AciD`> maxcell_ -> no, setting up LANG=C do not fix the problem, just the annoying error message in the console. `locale charmap` still returns ANSI_X3.4-1968, which means I still cannot see accentuated filenames
[01:59] <OerHeks> i never understand why people need both 32 aand 64 bit kernels..
[01:59] <maxcell_> AciD`, you cant, hmm thats weird
[01:59] <AciD`> not weird
[01:59] <AciD`> C does not support accentuated char
[02:00] <maxcell_> AciD`, C means default
[02:00] <maxcell_> AciD`, not a encoding
[02:00] <AciD`> it's just basic plains ascii char
[02:00] <maxcell_> AciD`, i had this problem once in Arch linux and i set it to "C" and worked
[02:01] <maxcell_> AciD`, oh now i remember
[02:01] <AciD`> if I just want a temporary workaround, I do LC_ALL="fr_FR.UTF-8" and all the problems are gone. But that does not fix the root of that problem
[02:01] <maxcell_> AciD`, the LC_ALL="C"
[02:01] <AciD`> does not :(
[02:01] <maxcell_> AciD`, and the LANG="fr.FR.UTF-8"
[02:02] <maxcell_> AciD`, oh ok
[02:02] <maxcell_> AciD`, so the LC_ALL=fr worked
[02:02] <maxcell_> AciD`, http://www.shellhacks.com/en/HowTo-Change-Locale-Language-and-Character-Set-in-Linux
[02:02] <maxcell_> according to this, thats the way to set a locale permanent, in bashrc like you did
[02:03] <AciD`> yeah..
[02:03] <AciD`> and my /etc/default/locale already has LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8
[02:04] <maxcell_> and you want to the X takes it automatically without .bashrc
[02:05] <AciD`> I just do not get why it's not working
[02:05] <AciD`> :(
[02:05] <Bashing-om> RNeville: I can see whay -95 is absent . I just "thought" -95 was installed . But I do not understand why it did not install . .. oh well . hang on .
[02:05] <maxcell_> AciD`, i dont know too, i face this same bug in Arch linux days ago
[02:06] <maxcell_> AciD`, has to be some sort of bug
[02:06] <AciD`> did you manage to fix it?
[02:06] <maxcell_> AciD`, i fix like you did
[02:06] <RNeville> k
[02:06] <maxcell_> AciD`, setting in .bashrc
[02:06] <AciD`> well, that's not a fix
[02:06] <AciD`> :(
[02:06] <maxcell_> AciD`, sort of
[02:06] <Bashing-om> RNeville: " ii  linux-image-3.13.0-95-generic " the -95 kernel was installed . You tell me what is taking place ?
[02:06] <maxcell_> AciD`, maybe the X-server already do it without letting us know
[02:07] <maxcell_> AciD`, by default
[02:07] <AciD`> I do not know
[02:07] <RNeville> I have no ideal, I'm only running commands you tell me
[02:07] <maxcell_> me either
[02:07] <AciD`> debootstrapping really give you an half-baked system...
[02:07] <AciD`> *gives
[02:07] <RNeville> Bashing-om, I don't mean any disrespect
[02:07] <Bashing-om> RNeville: I have no idea .. look at that last paste.. right back again and again where we started .
[02:08] <maxcell_> AciD`, this happens in Arch linux so
[02:08] <RNeville> I know
[02:08] <maxcell_> AciD`, its not debian fault, something is wrong with all systems has to be a sort of bug
[02:08] <AciD`> I surely am missing a key package, somehow, somewhere
[02:09] <AciD`> well, when I tried the live usb, it had no problem
[02:09] <maxcell_> AciD`, when it happens to me, i was messing with locales and languages
[02:09] <maxcell_> AciD`, exactly same here
[02:09] <AciD`> it's just that when using debootstrap, you have to manually install many, many packages
[02:09] <AciD`> before using deboostrap, I installed it normal, without any problem
[02:10] <maxcell_> but you have this problem since day 1 install?
[02:10] <AciD`> I just used debootstrap to use zfs as my / partition, but that's another story
[02:10] <AciD`> yep
[02:10] <maxcell_> with me was different
[02:10] <maxcell_> i got it working after install and
[02:10] <maxcell_> someday it stops
[02:10] <maxcell_> working
[02:11] <maxcell_> idk why
[02:11] <maxcell_> there is something interesting here AciD` look at this command locale-gen fr_FR ISO-8859-1
[02:12] <AciD`> yes?
[02:12] <maxcell_> ISO-8859-1 has acentuations too
[02:12] <AciD`> yes, but no
[02:12] <maxcell_> why
[02:12] <AciD`> this encoding is from the last century
[02:12] <AciD`> and do not support other language characters
[02:13] <AciD`> utf-8 is the only solution
[02:13] <maxcell_> try locale-gen fr_FR.UTF-8
[02:13] <AciD`> and all my filenames and folders are utf-8 encoded, for more than a decade now
[02:13] <AciD`> maxcell_ -> done, nothing changed :(
[02:14] <AciD`> the locale-archive file seems to be ok, but it won't just use it by default
[02:14] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Is it presently true that we went from : http://termbin.com/du0q and now back presently as this ; http://termbin.com/0m8l . It nakes absolutely no sense to me that this could happen .
[02:14] <maxcell_> AciD`, yeah i dont know how to help you with that
[02:14] <maxcell_> AciD`, sorry
[02:14] <AciD`> maxcell_ -> thanks for trying :)
[02:15] <maxcell_> np
[02:15] <AciD`> I'll hope a locale guru around here will see this thread
[02:15] <maxcell_> yeah im curious too, just wanna know if there is some answer to that
[02:16] <OerHeks> AciD`, did you ever run updates after changing locales?
[02:16] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: We booting with a separate /boot partition ? Or all our config files in the root partition ?
[02:17] <AciD`> OerHeks -> what do you mean by 'run updates'?
[02:17] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get you know
[02:18] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Whatever ubuntu does by default
[02:18] <AciD`> OerHeks -> I did update this morning, but I fail to see how it's related to the locales
[02:19] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Great . ok do you know the UUID of that root partition ? we can try and pass it to the kernel .
[02:20] <Bray90820> I do not know it
[02:20] <AciD`> Bray90820 -> blkid
[02:22] <Bray90820> AciD`: I am in grub command
[02:23] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Well , we can jot pass what we do not know . OK . let's find the kernel's config file . in that grub pronpt . what returns ' ls -al (hd0,msdos1)/ '
[02:24] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: No such partition
[02:25] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Ouch ! ' ls ' ?
[02:26] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: (hd0) (hd0,gpt3) (hd0,gpt2) (hd0,gpt1) (hd1) (hd2)
[02:27] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: I need to be away just like you so I will be back
[02:29] <maxcell_> AciD`, got some answer?
[02:29] <AciD`> maxcell_ -> nop :(
[02:29] <maxcell_> =(
[02:29] <glitchd> maxcell_, whats the problem?
[02:30] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Ok, now I understand . We are looking at GPT partitioning .. and out of my knowledge set . I have not had the need to acquire the skills to boot up such a system . Ut will take an eric or such .
[02:30] <maxcell_> glitchd, ask AciD` i couldn't help
[02:30] <glitchd> maxcell_, ok
[02:31] <glitchd> AciD`, what the problem?
[02:32] <AciD`> glitchd -> basically, I have all my locales cleanly generated (fr_FR.UTF-8 and en_US.UTF-8), but when I open my normal user session, I have the ascii version (instead of the utf-8 one) for LC_ALL
[02:32] <AciD`> this does not happens with the root user
[02:32] <AciD`> and both are using zsh and share the same .zshrc
[02:33] <AciD`> everything checks out /etc/environment, /etc/default/locale, dpkg-reconfigure locales...
[02:33] <glitchd> AciD`, i think this is also out of my "skill set", but i will try to help regardless
[02:33] <AciD`> but still no luck there
[02:33] <AciD`> thanks
[02:33] <glitchd> AciD`, your in ubuntu or arch?
[02:34] <glitchd> AciD`, and basically your session is not using the right locale set, right?
[02:34] <AciD`> yes
[02:34] <glitchd> AciD`, ok gimme a few moments to research it
[02:34] <glitchd> AciD`, ubuntu or arch?
[02:35] <AciD`> glitchd -> this is what I see when I open a new terminal tab: https://paste.kde.org/pzejlplxc
[02:35] <AciD`> ubuntu
[02:35] <AciD`> (hence the channel ;p)
[02:35] <glitchd> just making sure..
[02:36] <AciD`> to be more precise : I debootstrapped a ubuntu xenial, and added the kde neon repo on top of it (but the locale problem were already present before doing that)
[02:37] <AciD`> perhaps I'm missing some basic package distro usually ships (since debootstrap creates a very bare system)
[02:38] <AciD`> do you have more package with the 'locale' string in their name/description? https://paste.kde.org/pfhhecmpf
[02:38] <glitchd> AciD`, first run "locale" to lkist what locales currently defined for the current user account
[02:39] <Guest29016> how can I lower the temp of my SSD
[02:39] <glitchd> AciD`, Then generate the missing locale and reconfigure locales to take notice: then sudo locale-gen "en_US.UTF-8" then sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[02:40] <glitchd> AciD`, tell me if that works for you
[02:40] <AciD`> glitchd -> https://paste.kde.org/pzaylmz6s
[02:40] <AciD`> glitchd -> I did that already, still no luck
[02:40] <AciD`> even after a reboot
[02:41] <glitchd> AciD`, maybe you need to fill in LC_ALL=   with whatever locale your using?
[02:41] <AciD`> according to the web, you are not supposed to set LC_ALL, but just LANG system-wide
[02:42] <glitchd> AciD`, There is a high risk of human error in this problem. Your system is configured to en_GB by default, but you set it up to en_US. You have to manually comment en_GB and uncomment en_US in /etc/locale.gen
[02:42] <AciD`> I read that comment somewhere ;)
[02:42] <AciD`> dpkg-reconfigure locales do that for you
[02:42] <glitchd> AciD`, check /etc/environment
[02:43] <glitchd> make sure its set there alson
[02:43] <glitchd> AciD`, if not paste this in "LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
[02:43] <glitchd> LANG=en_US.UTF-8"
[02:43] <AciD`> glitchd -> well, there you are not supposed to set the lang, also according to the stackoverflow guru
[02:44] <AciD`> thanks for your time glitchd, but I'm just repeating what I did with maxcell, which was what I was already trying for 2 days now :x
[02:44] <glitchd> AciD`, run this command
[02:44] <AciD`> I'm on the verge to just ditch everything and install a good 'ol debian :)
[02:44] <glitchd> AciD`, sudo sh -c "echo 'LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8\nLANG=en_US.UTF-8' >> /etc/environment"
[02:45] <AciD`> glitchd -> quick question: do you have anything else apart PATH set in your /etc/environment?
[02:45] <glitchd> AciD`, run this one instead of that one "sh -c "echo -e 'LANG=en_US.UTF-8\nLC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8' > /etc/default/locale"
[02:46] <AciD`> because I do not on my kubuntu 16.04 install
[02:46] <AciD`> note : /etc/default/locale is automatically overwrited by update-locale
[02:46] <maxcell_> please help, how can i set LightDM as a default DisplayManager
[02:46] <glitchd> AciD`, the only thing in my /etc/environment is "PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/$"
[02:47] <AciD`> glitchd -> yep, so no need to add the lang there imo
[02:47] <Guest29016> how can I put my SSD into low power mode
[02:47] <AciD`> maxcell_ -> dpkg-reconfigure lightdm?
[02:47] <maxcell_> AciD`, gona try
[02:47] <glitchd> maxcell_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[02:47] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Let's see what we can do to find out the why . Pastebin ' ls -al /usr/src/ ; ls -al /lib/modules/ ; ls -al /boot ' then see what we can do about removing the 3.19 kernel files once more .
[02:47] <glitchd> maxcell_, will prompt you to make it default
[02:48] <maxcell_> awesomeeeeeee
[02:48] <maxcell_>  was trying with systemd
[02:48] <glitchd> AciD`, im reading a relaying straight from other forums where these problems have been solved
[02:48] <RNeville> Bashing-om, sorry but very tired
[02:49] <AciD`> glitchd -> yeah, I think I read those already too :x
[02:49] <AciD`> anyway, thanks for trying !
[02:49] <AciD`> I give up
[02:49] <maxcell_> it worked
[02:49] <glitchd> AciD`, lol welp im trying to help
[02:49] <glitchd> AciD`, ill keep looking
[02:49] <RNeville> maybe tomorrow, Lord willing
[02:49] <AciD`> glitchd -> thank you again, but it's just I already tried all that a thousand times for the last 48 hours
[02:50] <AciD`> I learned a lot in the process, but still can't get it to work
[02:50] <maxcell_> this locale thing hunts me
[02:50] <glitchd> AciD`, personally, unless this is a super special build, i would of already just reinstalled
[02:50] <Bashing-om> RNeville: K, there is no quit on my nature . we are stable on the 3.13-96 kernel. so we can pick this up at a later time .
[02:50] <glitchd> AciD`, *super special install
[02:50] <RNeville> Bashing-om, k
[02:51] <shawn196|R40> this old laptop is running cooler :D
[02:52] <shawn196|R40> after upgrading from 768mb to 2GB
[02:52] <glitchd> AciD`, another possible answer, Just add the following to your .bashrc file (assuming you're using bash)
[02:52] <glitchd> export LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8"
[02:52] <shawn196|R40> not to mention faster
[02:52] <AciD`> glitchd -> it was kinda ; I installed ubuntu on a root zfs partition, which require deboostrapping it
[02:52] <AciD`> hence the very bare system
[02:52] <glitchd> AciD`, right right
[02:53] <AciD`> (also,I'm using zsh)
[02:53] <AciD`> just out of curiosity, I removed my .zshrc, and opened a new console
[02:53] <AciD`> no errors
[02:53] <AciD`> :|
[02:53] <glitchd> AciD`,  you could also try sudo update-locale LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 then logout and back in to reload the session with the new values
[02:53] <glitchd> AciD`, lolololololololol
[02:53] <AciD`> I haven't changed my .zshrc in a while though, and it's the same as my root .zshrc file
[02:53] <glitchd> AciD`, momentary circumstantial error then?
[02:53] <AciD`> and root do not see those errors.
[02:53] <AciD`> :Z
[02:54] <AciD`> well, I'll try to put it back and we'll see
[02:54] <maxcell_> i thought locale-gen was the same as update-locale :~
[02:54] <t2mkn> how to install appache, mysql, php from ubuntu server iso directly, without an internet connection? any one please?
[02:54] <glitchd> AciD`, maybe a file is set with the wrong permissions then?
[02:54] <AciD`> checking
[02:55] <glitchd> AciD`, does this give any results?    dpkg-reconfigure locales
[02:55] <AciD`> well, as soon as I source .zshrc, I see the errors again
[02:55] <AciD`> glitchd -> yes, the right results
[02:56] <AciD`> I'll disect my 900 lines .zshrc
[02:56] <ntzorx> hello everyone
[02:56] <AciD`> and see what is causing that
[02:56] <glitchd> AciD`, alrighty then
[02:58] <maxcell_> glitchd, there is a way to reverse all the systemd default start tree to graphical mode? I was messing with him since yesterday and now i get a slowly boot. Also, when i try systemctl disable gdm3 it gives me some weird messages.
[02:59] <maxcell_> glitchd, reverse to make it like it was in the begnin
[02:59] <glitchd> maxcell_, are you talking about grub?
[02:59] <maxcell_> glitchd, systemd
[02:59] <maxcell_> glitchd, after grub
[02:59] <maxcell_> glitchd, like init.d? that boot things up
[03:01] <glitchd> maxcell_, systemctl set-default graphical.target
[03:01] <glitchd> maxcell_, then reboot
[03:01] <maxcell_> ok
[03:01] <glitchd> maxcell_, your should probably use that with sudo
[03:02] <glitchd> welp he left before reading to use sudo
[03:03] <glitchd> hope he does it by default anyways..
[03:03] <glitchd> maxcell_, work?
[03:03] <maxcell_> glitchd, didnt change a thing
[03:03] <glitchd> maxcell_, did u have to use sudo?
[03:04] <maxcell_> glitchd, yes just seems like all the changes i made was to the graphical.mode
[03:04] <glitchd> maxcell_, what os/de are u using?
[03:04] <maxcell_> glitchd, seems like it doesn't save a backup from the default thing
[03:04] <maxcell_> glitchd, 16.04
[03:04] <glitchd> de?
[03:04] <maxcell_> gnome
[03:05] <maxcell_> gnome-ubuntu
[03:05] <glitchd> have you tried maybe reinstalling gnome?
[03:05] <maxcell_> the problem is, i mess up with some commands like. Systemctl Enable Service.service, to initiate during boot, right?
[03:06] <glitchd> maxcell_, not sure
[03:06] <kkka> hi
[03:06] <gr1dl0ck> hello
[03:06] <maxcell_> glitchd, its like, systemctl start lightdm, systemctl stop lightdm know?
[03:06] <maxcell_> glitchd, like the old /etc/init.d/service stop/start/restart
[03:07] <cash> Hello team.  How is everyone?
[03:07] <gr1dl0ck> hello
[03:07] <kkka> hello cash
[03:08] <glitchd> maxcell_, youre in unity, right?
[03:09] <maxcell_> glitchd, im on xfce but, my default instalation is gnome-ubuntu
[03:09] <glitchd> 16.04?
[03:09] <maxcell_> yes
[03:09] <maxcell_> 16.04
[03:10] <shawn196|R40> why does abiword flicker?
[03:10] <maxcell_> i need to know the command that shows me all services that starts with my machine in defaults.target of systemd
[03:10] <cash> Guys today i fired up my system 76 from 2013
[03:11] <cash> with a cheap ssd from amazon (sandisk $40)
[03:11] <cash> Feeling good today, in my own nerd way
[03:12] <kkka> cool
[03:12] <cash> How is everyone?
[03:16] <glitchd> maxcell_, does this report anything back    systemctl –failed
[03:16] <maxcell_> glitchd, hmm no
[03:17] <glitchd> maxcell_, this command will give u a reading of what is enabled and what is disabled in systemd    systemctl list-unit-files –type=service
[03:18] <maxcell_> glitchd, what i put on service?
[03:18] <maxcell_> glitchd, wait let me see
[03:19] <glitchd> you put the word service
[03:19] <maxcell_> systemctl list-unit-files -type=service
[03:19] <maxcell_> Unknown unit type or load state 'ype=service'.
[03:20] <maxcell_> got it
[03:20] <maxcell_> systemctl list-unit-files -t service works
[03:20] <glitchd> maxcell_, To view all available unit files on your system:
[03:20] <glitchd> systemctl list-unit-files
[03:20] <glitchd> To list all running units:
[03:20] <glitchd> systemctl list-units
[03:20] <glitchd> To list all failed units:
[03:20] <glitchd> systemctl –failed
[03:20] <andy__> how to determine if i'm running 32 or 64 bit of lubuntu?
[03:21] <BenderRodriguez> andy__: uname -a
[03:21] <maxcell_> glitchd, thats exactly what i need thank you glitchd
[03:21] <BenderRodriguez> or more specifically, andy__, uname -i
[03:21] <andy__> thanks
[03:22] <glitchd>
[03:22] <glitchd> andy__, you could also type arch at cmd
[03:23] <glitchd> andy__, that will tell you your architecture
[03:23] <glitchd> maxcell_, that worked for you huh?
[03:24] <BenderRodriguez> andy__: or uname -m
[03:25] <BenderRodriguez> But my way is better because I said so
[03:26] <andy__> :) thanks
[03:27] <energizer> I have set a "system-wide" proxy. If i 'GET' from a server that uses the proxy in the browser, will GET use the proxy too?
[03:29] <Chromium> hello, everyone. I was wondering if I could get some assistance with something
[03:29] <binarydepth> join #mate-desktop
[03:30] <energizer> !ask | Chromium
[03:30] <glitchd> Chromium, ??
[03:30] <cash> Guys anyone know why syndaemon would lock or crash?  Happens on all 3 of my machines (one dell, one mac, one system76) after typing for a few mins with "syndaemon -i .5" active in a terminal
[03:30] <Chromium> I just got a chromebook and installed ubuntu 14.04 on it using Crouton. So far everything has been fine but Silverlight
[03:31] <energizer> Chromium: out of curiosity, what sites still use silverlight
[03:31] <Chromium> Silverlight isn't working. I installed it both through wine and through pipeline
[03:31] <Chromium> netflix
[03:32] <energizer> Chromium: nah, get google chrome, and on netflix enable html5 streaming
[03:32] <energizer> chromium wont work
[03:32] <energizer> because of drm stuff
[03:32] <Chromium> Oh. Ok. I tried initially but I couldn't download the .deb from the website for some off reason
[03:32] <Chromium> is there a way to install it through the terminal?
[03:33] <maxcell_> Chromium, you need to download from the website
[03:34] <Chromium> maxcell, I'll try it again and see if it works this time. Last time it wasn't downloading no matter how many times I selected it.
[03:36] <squidberry> you could try wget-ing the url
[03:36] <glitchd> ^^^^^^
[03:36] <glitchd> so much faster
[03:37] <Chromium> that worked. Getting it now.
[03:41] <Chromium> I got an error message while installing chrome through ubuntu software center. Authentication service not available
[03:42] <Chromium> followed by a you don't have the required priviliges to perform this action
[03:43] <glitchd> Chromium, sudo dpkg -i chromium.deb
[03:44] <glitchd> Chromium, make sure the file name is exact
[03:44] <Chromium> did you mean the chrome.deb, glitchd?
[03:45] <glitchd> Chromium, whatever the name of the deb file is, yes.
[03:45] <Chromium> gotcha, thanks. Trying no
[03:46] <glitchd> Chromium, what version are u using?
[03:46] <Chromium> I'm on 14.04, glitchd
[03:47] <money> anyone here heard of tinc
[03:48] <Chromium> I ran that command through the terminal and it said error processing package google-chrome-stable
[03:48] <glitchd> Chromium, Add the below line to startup applications.
[03:48] <glitchd>  /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
[03:48] <glitchd> Chromium, why are u on such a dated release?
[03:48] <Chromium> This was the update I ran yesterday when prompted by the OS to update to the latest version
[03:49] <Chromium> I'm aware a lts is out but was unsure of the differences
[03:49] <Chromium> I've been out of the ubuntu loop for years. I just started using it again to use my chromebook to it's full potential
[03:50] <glitchd> Chromium, im on 16.04.1
[03:50] <Chromium> Is it any different?
[03:50] <squidberry> There are changelogs you should read for that
[03:50] <glitchd> Chromium, the only reason i ask about the version, is because old build/releases tend to have problems as time goes on
[03:51] <glitchd> Chromium, yea theres some real differences the the way the systems work internally
[03:51] <maxcell_> i have a problem with AppArmor in systemd he is failing at boot. https://paste.kde.org/pkkufbhdd
[03:52] <Chromium> So are the issues I'm encountering with unpackaging .debs and installing certain things in the software center related to having an out of date version?
[03:55] <glitchd> Chromium, if i had to guess, i would say yes. but im no expert on the subject
[03:56] <Bashing-om> chan20: No, 14.04 is not out of date . It will have full suport 'til Aptil of 2019 . I Installed google-chrome in a different method . getting the signing key and adding the sources to the list. letting the package manager install google-chrome.
[03:56] <chan20> ?
[03:56] <Chromium> how do I go about doing that, bashing-om?
[03:56] <Bashing-om> chan20: sotty .. miss nicked ya !
[03:57] <Bashing-om> sorry*
[03:57] <maxcell_> i have a problem with AppArmor, it's failing on startup https://paste.kde.org/pkkufbhdd
[03:58] <glitchd> Bashing-om, thx for correcting my mis-assumption/not remembering that lts mean long term support
[03:58] <Chromium> never mind, apparently chrome installed somehow even though all I got was error messages...
[04:00] <Bashing-om> Chromium: 1. Download key :' wget -q -O – https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | sudo apt-key add -  2. Add google chrome to sources.list: sudo sh -c ‘echo “deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main” >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list’ 3. Update list: ' sudo apt-get update ' 4. install google chrome: ' sudo apt-get install google-chrome-stable ' 5. Open google chrome .
[04:00] <stan_man_can> the "Screen Display" really needs some work
[04:00] <stan_man_can> an "Identify Monitor" feature would be nice, like in windows where you click it and it shows a big number on the screen so you know which is which
[04:01] <stan_man_can> i have 4 identical monitors and screen display just says "BenQ" in the top corner of each. thanks ubuntu i'm aware
[04:01] <stan_man_can> moving them around to t he right place was surprisingly confusing
[04:02] <glitchd> maxcell_, sudo apt-get install apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu
[04:05] <Chromium> so another quick question, in the software center I apparently can't install new software because there are problems with software I currently have installed. Clicking repair does nothing but give me the same error, and tells me I don't have the permissions to do anything
[04:05] <Chromium> I'm kind of lost :p
[04:06] <maxcell_> glitchd, trying
[04:14] <glitchd> well i guess it worked for him cause he left lol
[04:15] <Bashing-om> glitchd: Would be nice to know however , huh ?
[04:15] <glitchd> yep i was typing for him to let us know before he left just as he left lol
[04:16] <glitchd> Bashing-om, ^^^
[04:17] <Bashing-om> glitchd: Well . That method did work for me, if there are no conflicts in chromium's system, should workie there also .
[04:17] <kevin__> hi
[04:18] <maxcell_> hey, the apt-get install appamor-safeprof worked
[04:19] <Thatguy> hey all, I'm getting an issue with uninstalling software in the ubuntu software center
[04:19] <Thatguy> I get the message rg.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name': ':1.13'}): org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages
[04:19] <Thatguy> anyone familiar with the issue?
[04:19] <glitchd> maxcell_, good to hear
[04:20] <maxcell_> glitchd, how did you know
[04:20] <glitchd> maxcell_, google my friend, google.
[04:20] <maxcell_> glitchd, you are really good at
[04:21] <maxcell_> lol
[04:21] <glitchd> um...thx? lol
[04:21] <Thatguy> is anyone familiar with an error telling you that you don't have the required priviliges?
[04:22] <Thatguy> to uninstall or install programs in the software center
[04:22] <Thatguy> followed by an error message like this: rg.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name': ':1.13'}): org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages
[04:22] <glitchd> Thatguy, uninstall it from cmd with sudo
[04:22] <Thatguy> ok. How do I go about doing that?
[04:22] <maxcell_> glitchd, thank you i gess i didn't do anything lol
[04:22] <Thatguy> Brand new to ubuntu, apologies for my noobishness
[04:23] <glitchd> maxcell_, np glad u got it working
[04:24] <glitchd> Thatguy, sudo apt-get purge package-name
[04:24] <glitchd> Thatguy, replace package-name with the name of the program you want to remove
[04:25] <undecim> Does anyone know how to get KVM with OVMF to boot my ubuntu install now that the install is done? Booting just gives me a UEFI shell
[04:26] <undecim> This happens on every machine (real or virtual) I've got, every linux distro..... Install runs fine, then boots to UEFI shell. Only this time, "Legacy Mode BIOS" isn't an option, since I need to use pci passthrough on this vm.
[04:26] <Thatguy> thank you, glitchd
[04:26] <glitchd> Thatguy, np
[04:27] <Thatguy> one more thing, I just installed chrome the other day and it works fine, but it doesn't show under my installed software in the software center
[04:27] <Thatguy> do you know why that might be, glitchd?
[04:28] <glitchd> Thatguy, did you install it from the software center, or did u download a .deb file and install it manually?
[04:28] <Thatguy> .deb file then unpackaged it in the terminal
[04:29] <Thatguy> but it lead me to the software center where it made me install in there
[04:29] <glitchd> Thatguy, thats why then, and it probably didnt install the exact same version as the software center would have.
[04:30] <Thatguy> ok, thanks. I appreciate the help, glitchd
[04:30] <glitchd> Thatguy, but if u check in synaptic package manager itll be list as installed there
[04:30] <glitchd> Thatguy, np bud
[04:44] <atdprhs> Hi all
[04:44] <atdprhs> Do anyone know how to track the root cause of an application termination? I have an service that is running on Kubuntu, but for some reason, it's getting terminated by exit code 130 signal caught is 2 which means Ctrl+C
[04:46] <glitchd> atdprhs, dmesg? maybe dmesg | less?
[04:49] <EriC^^> atdprhs: strace or gdb i guess
[04:50] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: I'm back
[04:51] <Bray90820> EriC^^: I have a little more info about my issue
[04:51] <EriC^^> wasn
[04:51] <EriC^^> 't it solved?
[04:52] <Bray90820> No it's not solved
[04:52] <Bray90820> Why did you think it was solved
[04:52] <EriC^^> cause you said so
[04:53] <Bray90820> Did I?
[04:53] <Bray90820> I don't remember saying it was solved?
[04:53] <EriC^^> oh, now i remember
[04:54] <EriC^^> you said you put acpi=off and it showed a can't mount root error
[04:54] <atdprhs> glitchd and EriC^^: I'll check dmesg | less and strace, I haven't tried them, thanks guys
[04:54] <EriC^^> nevermind
[04:56] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: You have my attention .
[04:57] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Where should I go from here
[04:59] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Sorry, I have no idea of how to isolate your booting issue . But would be interested in knowing .
[05:00] <Bray90820> We were working on the UUID issue
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> !uuid | Bray90820
[05:01] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: And we got to GPT partitioning . and that is not in my range of experience .
[05:01] <Bray90820> Bashing-om: Alright thanks anyways
[05:01] <Bray90820> Anyone else?
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820: best way is to re-ask your issue all in one line here in support channel once in a while
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !details | Bray90820 dont forget mentioning this
[05:05] <Bray90820> My issue is that my system can't locate my UUID it says "UUID does not exist dropping to a shell
[05:08] <Bray90820> It sass says "check rootdelay= (did the system wait long enough)"  "check root= (did the system wit for the right device?)" and "Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; is /dev)"
[05:08] <Bray90820> *Also
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820: ubuntu version? harddisk type? partitioning layout?
[05:11] <Bray90820> Ubuntu 16.04 it's a tablet with a built in hard drive and gpt partitioning
[05:11] <Bray90820> It's one of those 32bit uefi tablets with a 64bit processor
[05:11] <Kirito> Can anyone advise me on the steps to take to disable dmix in Alsa, completely?
[05:11] <Bray90820> It only boots like 1 out of 10 times
[05:11] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: How about booting a liveUSB, monting the root file system of the install, compare the install /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/grub.cfg files to what 'sudo blkid' reports for UUIDs ?
[05:12] <Kirito> As in, completely completely. As in, when I say "play to this hardware device", it will play to that hardware device, not resample my audio.
[05:12] <Bray90820> But if I use nomodeset it boots 100% of the time
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820: did 14.04 work on this tablet?
[05:12] <Bray90820> lotuspsychje: Never tried 14.04
[05:12] <Bray90820> Should I try 14.04?
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820: well in your case, could be wise to test things out
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820: just in case to make sure its not a 16.04 thing
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820: perhaps a liveusb test?
[05:14] <Bray90820> I did a live USB test and everything is fine
[05:14] <Bray90820> But I need an 8GB drive to install ubuntu on right?
[05:14] <Bray90820> or rather an 8gb to create the live USB
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820: how big is your hd?
[05:15] <Bray90820> The USB or the Tablets HD
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820: tablet
[05:17] <Bray90820> 64gb
[05:18] <Bray90820> The USB I have is 4 GB
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820: plenty
[05:18] <Bray90820> The USB?
[05:19] <Bray90820> What Iw as asking was weather I needed an 8GB USB to create a live Disk
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820: install iso is about 1,5gig, so that should be good
[05:21] <Bray90820> Sorry to ask again but I am confused
[05:21] <Bray90820> My 4GB usb is good to create the live USB right?
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> Bray90820: yes
[05:22] <Bray90820> Got it Thanks
[05:45] <circ-user-INJFZ> Anyone else experiencing videos having a bad audio sync after rendering them with Kdenlive?
[05:46] <cfhowlett> circ-user-INJFZ, avoid wasting bandwidth and time by NOT asking "anyone ...?"   state YOUR issues and specs for best results
[05:46] <circ-user-INJFZ> chhowlett: ok..
[05:47] <circ-user-INJFZ> I've been trying to export a video for the past couple of days with Kdenlive.  The first few minutes the video is synced up.      I've tried updating Kdenlive to the most recent...I've tried different formats, etc.  No luck so far.
[05:49] <cfhowlett> circ-user-INJFZ, I remember a note in the kdenlive users guide about this.  let me look
[05:52] <cfhowlett> circ-user-INJFZ, command problem according to search results of kdenlive + audio + synch.       see this and search for yourself: http://www.hecticgeek.com/2013/02/fix-audio-video-sync-save-permanently-avidemux/
[05:57] <vlt> circ-user-INJFZ: Are you sure it’s the exported file that runs out of sync and not your video player?
[05:58] <cfhowlett> that too ^^^
[05:58] <vlt> circ-user-INJFZ: In most cases I export to DNxHD from kdenlive and later convert that to the target format using avconv/ffmpeg.
[05:59] <circ-user-INJFZ> vlt: its the file.  Its out of sync on two different computers...windows and ubuntu...and on youtube
[06:02] <Bray90820> EriC^^: I have more info issue it says that my system can't locate my UUID it says "UUID does not exist dropping to a shell'
[06:05] <cfhowlett> circ-user-INJFZ, relevant:  http://imgur.com/a/o3upg
[06:05] <circ-user-INJFZ> cfhowlett: I wonder if this applies to a video as well?
[06:06] <Disaster_Area> hey, can anyone recommend any freeware video editing / screen recording software?
[06:07] <cfhowlett>   recordmydesktop Disaster_Area
[06:07] <EriC^^> Bray90820: sounds like a hdd problem
[06:07] <Bray90820> I have a GPT Tartition table
[06:07] <cfhowlett> Disaster_Area, then edit in openshot or kdenlive
[06:07] <EriC^^> Disaster_Area: openshot / kdenlive for video editing
[06:07] <Disaster_Area> thanks!!
[06:07] <Bray90820> EriC^^: But we tested the hard drive and it came back with no errors
[06:08] <Disaster_Area> which out of kdenlive and openshot is more user-friendly?
[06:08] <maxcell_> the volume applet at Xfce panel vanish and my multimedia keys always stop working without compositing, why?
[06:08] <EriC^^> Disaster_Area: openshot
[06:08] <Disaster_Area> i'm not gonna be doing anything complex with it
[06:08] <Disaster_Area> thanks
[06:08] <cfhowlett> Disaster_Area, depends on your definition. test both for yourself and decide.  they are free.
[06:09] <Triffid_Hunter> Disaster_Area: I use glc for recording games fwiw, then ffmpeg afterwards for converting to video
[06:09] <circ-user-INJFZ> EriC^^: do you know if open shot will allow you to super impose graphics over video?
[06:09] <cfhowlett> circ-user-INJFZ, never figured how to do it with openshot but it is supersimple with ffmpeg
[06:09] <EriC^^> circ-user-INJFZ: it allows you to put titles and stuff
[06:09] <Disaster_Area> well all I'd be doing is recording what's going on in my browser / adding a picture to music
[06:10] <EriC^^> circ-user-INJFZ: cfhowlett you put the title in the top layer of the timeline, and the video you want below it in a different layer
[06:10] <circ-user-INJFZ> Eric^^ its been a while since I've used openshot.  I've got a very simple video to do.  I need to be able to place graphics over parts of the video and scale them down and place them in certain parts of the screen.  Do you know if this is possible?
[06:11] <EriC^^> or it's vice-versa i forgot, but it's just one way it can work, so try both and see which one it is
[06:11] <EriC^^> circ-user-INJFZ: i think so, not entirely sure
[06:11] <EriC^^> circ-user-INJFZ: there is a very good torrent for adobe premiere on a different note..
[06:13] <EriC^^> (the one by ChingLiu)
[06:13] <Disaster_Area> alright great I downloaded recordmydesktop and openshot, I'll have a trial of it tomorrow
[06:14] <nub> hiho
[06:15] <nub> some stupid questions
[06:15] <nub> :)
[06:15] <cfhowlett> !cn | nub
[06:15] <maxcell_> the volume control vanish in xfce
[06:16] <nub> can I somehow check for the version of a package in upstream ubuntu versions and not only in the current running one? Or do I need to configure the repository I want to look in for this?
[06:16] <hateball> nub: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[06:16] <nub> hateball: I want to do this from the commandline
[06:22] <hateball> nub: *I* dont know of any other way than creating a sources.list for the release you want to query, and then point to that for apt operations
[06:23] <EriC^^> nub: maybe download the _Packages file for the repository and manually look for the packages?
[06:23] <guiverc> nub:  lynx, w3m allowing browsing from command line...  otherwise its wget/curl & script maybe?
[06:25] <hateball> A google gives https://askubuntu.com/questions/620956/does-packages-ubuntu-com-provide-a-search-api
[06:28] <mylisto> cfhowlett, can you paste that image again about the bit rate / sample rate - thanks
[06:29] <cfhowlett> mylisto, wait 1
[06:29] <cfhowlett> mylisto, to fix audio synch issues in kdenlive  http://imgur.com/a/o3upg
[06:42] <l00kSharp> :)
[06:48] <streulma> my Asus thinks he is on battery, AC is plugged in, and he doesn't read correctly the ACPI tables
[06:53] <mylisto_> Does anyone know how to check the sample rate of a project in Kdenlive?
[06:54] <cfhowlett> mylisto_, I think ffmpeg will return that info.  ffmpeg -i foo.mp4
[06:55] <mylisto_> cfhowlett: I know the audio in this clip is 44.1  I need to find out the sample rate in my project thats open in Kdenlive
[06:55] <cfhowlett> mylisto_, should be a project properties button in there somewhere
[06:56] <mylisto_> cfhowlett: I've checked over and over for anything that even remotely says sample rate.    I'm an openshot guy myself so ... new to me.
[06:59] <EriC^^> mylisto_: project > project settings?
[07:04] <AndChat93396> Www.greekircnet.gr
[07:04] <mylisto> cfhowlett: I might end up using openshot if Kdenlive keeps on acting like garbage.  Can I superimpose graphics over a video...and resize them?  ie have an image to the left of my face?
[07:05] <cfhowlett> mylisto, that's a bit more than I've attempted.    This is driving me freaking nuts!
[07:07] <maxcell_> mylisto, why sucks/
[07:08] <EriC^^> mylisto: yes that was my conclusion too a while ago
[07:08] <cfhowlett> mylisto, "hate myself" but pretty sure youtube will allow simple edits of the kind you describel
[07:08] <cfhowlett> *describe*
[07:08] <EriC^^> openshot & kdenlive are basically like eachother just with a different gui, also they are pretty much toys
[07:08] <maxcell_> there is Pitivi too
[07:09] <maxcell_> have you seeing it?
[07:09] <EriC^^> it's free?
[07:09] <maxcell_> yes, comes with Fedora for default
[07:09] <maxcell_> by default8
[07:09] <maxcell_> *
[07:10] <cfhowlett> mylisto, and cinelerra would certainly do the job
[07:10] <maxcell_> EriC^^, https://labs.fedoraproject.org/pt_BR/design-suite/
[07:11] <mylisto> cfhowlett: whats the best way to install cinelerra?
[07:11] <cfhowlett> http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php
[07:12] <mylisto> what terminal command can I use to see if I'm running 32 or 64?
[07:13] <mcphail> mylisto: very few video editors on linux do any kind of compositing, so superimposing images or video is much harder than you'd guess. I use the blender video editor for that kind of thing, but it isn't very friendly. I used to ue cinelerra but it was woefully unstable
[07:13] <mcphail> mylisto: as you suggest, video editing on linux is awful
[07:13] <cfhowlett> +1 for blender video editing
[07:14] <EriC^^> mylisto: "arch"
[07:15] <EriC^^> i've just gotten adobe premiere, it sucks to have to reboot into windows every time to use it, but it's a proper tool, would love to see something like it in linux, maybe some day
[07:16] <mylisto> Eric^^: insert sad panda face
[07:16] <EriC^^> yes, yes.. :D
[07:16] <EriC^^> the reboot struggle is real
[07:17] <netvixtra> EriC^^: I only have Photoshop :(
[07:17] <maxcell_> you guys sure this is not good? http://www.pitivi.org/
[07:17] <netvixtra> Premiere is not going to work
[07:17] <EriC^^> netvixtra: what do you mean?
[07:18] <netvixtra> EriC^^: I've actually tried getting premiere to work
[07:18] <netvixtra> But it does not run properly
[07:18] <mylisto> I just downloaded cinelerra cfhowlett:  How do I install this?
[07:18] <EriC^^> what didn't work about it?
[07:19] <netvixtra> I can upload the debug log from wine? :)
[07:19] <maxcell_> mylisto, dpkg -i package.deb
[07:19] <cfhowlett> netvixtra, wine support in the wine channels
[07:19] <EriC^^> netvixtra: oh, i have it on windows dual booting
[07:19] <mylisto> maxcell_: I don't think there is a deb file for it
[07:20] <cfhowlett> mylisto, what exactly did you download?
[07:20] <maxcell_> so idk
[07:20] <mylisto> Heres the link text "64 bit binary tested on Ubuntu-14.04.2. Decompress and run ./cinelerra in the directory."  link -> http://sourceforge.net/projects/heroines/files/cinelerra-4.6.1-x86_64.tar.xz/download
[07:21] <netvixtra> cfhowlett: shouldnt you tell mylisto to go to the cinelerra channel for cinelerra support?
[07:22] <cfhowlett> mylisto, as stated: decompress then run the ./cinelerra in the directory.    also: see #cinelerra      channel
[07:22] <mylisto> ah ok...thanks
[07:26] <barq> How can I install jvm 1.7? I have jvm 1.6 installed on 16.04.1. I tried sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java but get user or team does not exist
[07:26] <mylisto> yep...cinelerra ain't my thing.
[07:30] <barq> I tried sudo apt-get install --reinstall ca-certificates which is supposed to fix this problem, but same thing afterwards
[07:33] <maxcell_> mylisto, http://www.pitivi.org/
[07:33] <maxcell_> try?
[07:34] <mylisto> maxcell_: I'm so frustrated with video editing in Linux.  So many promises and its still buggy as hell.
[07:36] <maxcell_> mylisto, you gotta chose one and stick with that
[07:38] <Donutloop> Exists a ubuntu cve tracker json version ?
[07:38] <cfhowlett> no one was born knowing Adobe*.  choose your tool, learn your tool, use your tool.
[07:39] <cfhowlett> or MSoft for that matter
[07:39] <Donutloop> Html version: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/universe.html
[07:40] <barq> It worked with export http and https_proxy btw
[07:40] <maxcell_> i've heard that the guy of Openshot is making an openshot 2.0 and he is really happy about because he is bring some pro features to provide for cinema video editing stuffs and for pros but, he is working on it yet and haven't release
[07:44] <mcphail> maxcell_: openshot2 is released, and there is nothing "pro" about it. But perhaps this is a discussion for a different channel
[07:45] <maxcell_> mcphail, i saw the interview with the guy days ago, when the 2.0 was release?
[07:46] <cfhowlett> http://www.openshotvideo.com/2016/08/openshot-21-released.html maxcell_
[07:46] <maxcell_> so its bad? sad
[07:46] <maxcell_> What about http://www.pitivi.org/
[07:47] <maxcell_> no one of you talk about that tool
[07:47] <maxcell_> until now
[07:47] <cfhowlett> maxcell_, suggest you rely less on the random opinions of internet strangers and do some testing for yourself.  openshot is in no way "bad".
[07:47] <mcphail> maxcell_: 2.0 has been out for several months. Most recent announcement was the 2.1 point release
[07:48] <maxcell_> cfhowlett, yeah thats a very good advice
[07:55] <circ-user-EKhe4> Hey folks
[07:56] <tymik> hi, is it possible to check suggested packages for software that i have already installed?
[07:57] <tymik> in apt/aptitude/apt-get
[07:57] <cfhowlett> tymik, apt-get -s dist-upgrade      will simulate the command
[08:00] <tymik> cfhowlett: does not work for already installed software
[08:03] <SonaSenpai> Hello, is there any way that I can get a alternative menu in Ubuntu? I don't like the grid style. Thanks :)
[08:13] <CodFection> hello
[08:13] <CodFection> is there a way to make ubuntu bleeding edge
[08:13] <CodFection> ?
[08:13] <CodFection> like arch or debian unstable
[08:13] <CodFection> ty
[08:13] <cfhowlett> CodFection, install debian and go wild
[08:13] <Ben64> CodFection: ubuntu isn't a rolling release
[08:14] <CodFection> cfhowlett, why would you recommend debian
[08:14] <CodFection> debian isnt rolling release either
[08:14] <CodFection> so is fedora
[08:14] <cfhowlett> CodFection, errr ---- no?     I think you might need an entirely different OS.
[08:16] <giigle> hey
[08:16] <DrNo> uNSTABLEbutu
[08:16] <DrNo> methinks ;p
[08:16] <tymik> agree - i see no point in staying with ubuntu if you want rolling release
[08:17] <tymik> and for bleeding edge, get a gentoo and have fun :)
[08:17] <CodFection> actually bleeding edge doesnt necessarily means unstable.
[08:17]  * GNUUBUS123 says hi to everyone :)
[08:17] <CodFection> haha tymik no way. gento is pain in the a**
[08:17] <cfhowlett> CodFection, we've gone off-topic here.  gentoo sounds like an excellent suggestion for you
[08:18] <k1l> !16.10 | CodFection
[08:18] <tymik> CodFection: trust me, you will have less problems with gentoo than with bleeding-edge-like ubuntu
[08:18] <DrNo> I've always understood the stable / dev branches simply to mean
[08:18] <GNUUBUS123> can anyone please suggest me some good channel which would help me to start learning Python3.X
[08:19] <cfhowlett> GNUUBUS123, python.org lists that kind of info
[08:19] <CodFection> GNUUBUS123, #python
[08:19] <DrNo> "can ask questions" and "only ask questions if you're willing to contribute to dev"
[08:19] <k1l> GNUUBUS123: #python for python specifics
[08:19] <GNUUBUS123> #python says my nick needs to be registered
[08:19] <CodFection> tymik, what about other distro? gentoo is a no no for me
[08:19] <k1l> !register | GNUUBUS123
[08:19] <tymik> CodFection: would pick up arch then, or gentoo-based sabayon
[08:20] <GNUUBUS123> awesome ubottu
[08:20] <GNUUBUS123> will register my nickname asap
[08:20] <k1l> CodFection: in here the focus is on ubuntu. if you want other distros ask in #linux
[08:20] <CodFection> I much prefer ubuntu myself for the sake of its installer
[08:20] <maxcell_> opensuse is rolling release right
[08:20] <CodFection> k1l, yea actually I just wanna know how to make my current ubuntu (16.04) bleeding edge
[08:20] <CodFection> libraries
[08:20] <CodFection> etc.
[08:21] <tymik> CodFection: installer is not the most important part of the OS, i don't know of any rolling-release using debs
[08:21] <gr1dl0ck> maxcell_: is it?
[08:21] <k1l> CodFection: do you know what bleeding edge means and why you need it? and do you know what release model ubuntu uses?
[08:21] <maxcell_> gr1dl0ck, i think it is
[08:21] <CodFection> yea LTS I know
[08:21] <k1l> CodFection: no
[08:21] <tymik> CodFection: you have to search for alternative repositories, that are meant to be bleeding edge ones
[08:21] <tymik> perhaps such repos exists
[08:21] <CodFection> they are from debian unstable tymik
[08:22] <tymik> pick them then
[08:22] <tymik> comment out those from ubuntu
[08:22] <maxcell_> debian unstable have to be so hard to deal with, lol
[08:22] <tymik> but you'll just get debian then
[08:22] <k1l> CodFection: ubuntu got a stable release model. it means it releases a version every 6 months and the package versions stay at that state. so on ubunutu you need to upgrade to a newer release to get new verison numbers.
[08:22] <k1l> tymik: CodFection that repo mixing is not supported.
[08:22] <CodFection> oh I see k1l
[08:23] <tymik> k1l: i wouldn't expect it to be supported ;)
[08:23] <CodFection> thanks a lot for clarifying k1l. so it means I will get latest software after 6 months right?
[08:23] <k1l> tymik: then dont make it look like this is supported in here.
[08:23] <k1l> CodFection: as ia already said you can upgrade to 16.10 right now which is in development right now.
[08:24] <k1l> CodFection: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[08:24] <Ben64> not necessarily going to be "latest" ever
[08:24] <CodFection> k1l, so after every 6 months I will get latest software in ubuntu 16.04 LTS whereas 16.10 is latest?
[08:24] <CodFection> Ben64, why :(
[08:24] <Ben64> because that's not how ubuntu works
[08:24] <cfhowlett> !latest | CodFection
[08:24] <k1l> CodFection: no. the versions on 16.04 will not change. that is what LTS is for.
[08:25] <Ben64> you can upgrade every 6 months and have the latest versions in Ubuntu, but not the newest versions available
[08:25] <CodFection> k1l, then what did you say about 6 months
[08:25] <k1l> CodFection: you have the choice between stable (lts) which has older version or bleeding edge which can have more bugs and changes stuff very often.
[08:25] <CodFection> ahan Ben64 thanks
[08:25] <k1l> CodFection: please read the link i pasted
[08:25] <CodFection> ok
[08:26] <CodFection> Ben64 and k1l , are you running 16.04 or 16.10
[08:26] <k1l> CodFection: the usage of the system is different from user to user. so better think about what you want, not what others do.
[08:27] <CodFection> yea true just wanted to hear an opinion
[08:29] <maxcell_> i think of all distros, debian testing/unstable is the ones that changes more often than all
[08:29] <CodFection> is 14.04 still supported here?
[08:29] <cfhowlett> CodFection, it is
[08:29] <CodFection> ok
[08:30] <CodFection> because I have heard it has less bugs than 16.04
[08:30] <k1l> CodFection: to be honest. bleeding edge is not the best option for new users. there might be issues and bugs that you will have to solve.
[08:30] <tymik> CodFection: LTS is supported for 6 years
[08:30] <k1l> CodFection: 12.04, 14.04 and 16.04 are actually supported right now.
[08:31] <CodFection> k1l, yea I truly agree with what you said but that doesn't mean stable versions dont have bugs for eg 16.04
[08:31] <cfhowlett> CodFection, tymik false. 5
[08:31] <k1l> CodFection: i believe they have the same amount of bugs in it.
[08:32] <mcphail> CodFection: Whilst that may or may not be, unless you are struggling with a specific bug, this channel is not the correct one for discussing the release schedule. Perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic, #ubuntu-discuss or ##linux?
[08:33] <CodFection> #ubuntu-offtopic is handled by some crazy people who ban others for no specific reason thats why I dont usually go there
[08:33] <CodFection> but yea thanks for the info
[08:34] <mcphail> CodFection: that doesn't make the Ubuntu support channel an appropriate place for these musings
[08:34] <Ben64> CodFection: it's the same people as here, and they might hand out bans for not being on topic
[08:35] <k1l> CodFection: the logs show that you were trolling in the offtopic channel and that the ban was very deserved. so i guess you should not make such statements when you act against the guidelines.
[08:35] <CodFection> mcphail, I have been asking about how to get bleeding edge on my current ubuntu. you can scroll up and see for yourself. I guess that makes it pretty much related to ubuntu support
[08:35] <Ben64> CodFection: and you've been told a bunch of times that you can't
[08:35] <cfhowlett> CodFection, ok time to move on, now.  your question was asked and answered
[08:35] <CodFection> k1l, everyone was
[08:36] <CodFection> cfhowlett, sure
[08:38] <arash> ./join
[08:38] <arash> hey guys
[08:38] <arash> i have issues
[08:38] <cfhowlett> ask ubuntu questions, arash
[08:39] <arash> how?
[08:39] <cfhowlett> like that ^
[08:39] <cfhowlett> !ask | arash
[08:40] <arash> i am new, how an i do what u said?
[08:40] <cfhowlett> arash, see how you asked a question there.  like that.  now ... what exactly is your UBUNTU support question.
[08:40] <DrNo> 0_0
[08:41] <arash> I cant download and install any apps. I also cant update my repositories
[08:42] <cfhowlett> arash, what ubuntu version do you have/
[08:43] <k1l> arash: does that machine have a network connection?
[08:43] <arash> 14.04
[08:43] <arash> yes it does
[08:43] <cfhowlett> arash, are you on the machine now?
[08:43] <arash> yes
[08:43] <k1l> arash: so internet works on websites and irc?
[08:43] <k1l> arash: do you use a proxy or vpn?
[08:44] <arash> no i dont
[08:44] <cfhowlett> arash, open a terminal.  type this.  copy and paste the url output.           lsb_release -a | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:44] <arash> okay
[08:45] <giigle> hi[3~
[08:45] <arash> the output is :     No LSB modules are available.
[08:46] <cfhowlett> arash         cat /etc/issue | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:47] <k1l> arash: it outputs a url, please show that here
[08:48] <arash> http://termbin.com/enyk
[08:48] <cfhowlett> arash, and there it is.  NOT 14.04.   14.10 is dead and dead dead
[08:48] <k1l> arash: ok, ubuntu 14.10 is dead since a long time. better load a 14.04 or a 16.04 iso and make a new install.
[08:48] <cfhowlett> time to upgrade to a supported OS
[08:49] <specialedge> do i need to uninstall nginx if i want to upgrade from 1.4.6 to latest stable? using ubuntu 14.04
[08:49] <cfhowlett> arash, option 1: clean install of 16.04       option 2: end of life upgrade > 15.04 > 15.10 > 16.04
[08:49] <arash> so you mean i have to install a new version of ubuntu?
[08:49] <guvn0r> yes
[08:49] <cfhowlett> arash, only if you care about security, updates ... little things like that
[08:50] <k1l> arash: 14.10 had only 9 months lifetime from october 2014. that time is over long time. so yes, you need to upgrade or make a new install.
[08:50] <circ-user-jvHnQ> Ok.  Something is definitely goofy with Kdenlive.  Maybe someone can help me pinpoint this down.  When I've got my MP4 clip in Kdenlive and I press play everything is synced up fine.  When I split the audio and press play...the audio is out of sync.  eric^^: or cfhowlett: any ideas?
[08:50] <nebuchadnezzar> hello
[08:51] <cfhowlett> circ-user-jvHnQ, I take it the fix I suggested earlier failed?
[08:51] <cfhowlett> circ-user-jvHnQ, best to take this to kdenlive directly. pretty sure they have a channel.
[08:51] <circ-user-jvHnQ> cfhowlett: the one with adjusting the sample rate?
[08:51] <cfhowlett> yes
[08:51] <nebuchadnezzar> Is there a way to install unsigned grub-efi with preseed ? I want to workaround https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1625200
[08:51] <stevenm_> anyone here use fontforge?
[08:51] <salvatore> ciao
[08:51] <arash> thank u guys
[08:52] <arash> i will install a new version
[08:52] <cfhowlett> stevenm_, never again waste time with "anyone ...?" questions.  state YOUR issues and YOUR specs.
[08:52] <cfhowlett> arash, happy2help!
[08:52] <circ-user-jvHnQ> cfhowlett: the problem is no one ever responds in the kdenlive channel.  I got one response after asking for like 3 days.
[08:52] <cfhowlett> :) yes there is that.  also: forums.
[08:53] <stevenm_> cfhowlett, wow you just really wasted your time there
[08:53] <cfhowlett> and you still haven't actually stated the issue.
[08:54] <stevenm_> cfhowlett, no this is more fun now
[08:54] <bazhang> stevenm_, lets keep it on topic
[08:54] <cfhowlett> ... stay on topic
[08:56] <stevenm_> ok so lets say it takes 40 words and a lot of thinking time to carefully articulate a question about a fairly obscure package in the ubuntu repo's that isn't there by default on install.... and it's one which likely the answer is obvious to any regular user of the program... it saves more time (mine, and any readers in the chan) if I just ask who here might use it - rather than flooding the chan with a long winded explaination of something which likely h
[08:56] <stevenm_> as 99% confused what the hell that program is in the first place :P
[08:57] <stevenm_> OH! and there we go - that took too much time
[08:57] <stevenm_> so that's why (rarely, occasionally, not every time) it's better to simply ask... who here uses X ?
[08:57] <bazhang> whats the issue with fontforge stevenm_
[08:58] <stevenm_> if it was gnome or firefox or something crazy simply and built-in to the OS - that I'd understand criticising me for cfhowlett
[08:58] <k1l> stevenm_: stop waisting time. ask a specific question. not who knows who.
[08:58] <bazhang> !info fontforge
[08:58] <stevenm_> i'm wasting everyones time talking about how this chan seems to want to waste yours!
[08:58] <stevenm_> but the original question wasn't wasting anyones time
[08:58] <ducasse> stevenm_: you are quickly headed for half the channel /ignore'ing you...
[08:58] <stevenm_> ah I'm shutting up now
[09:02] <Zardoz_gnoobot> just got my nick registered
[09:02] <Zardoz_gnoobot> :D
[09:02] <n0cto> So I have a server, 700GB partitioned to Windows Server 2012, 300 partitioned to Ubuntu Server. Is there any way to enlarge the Ubuntu Server partition without having to restall Windows or Ubuntu?
[09:03] <cfhowlett> n0cto, yes.  you could boot an ubuntu USB, start gparted and repartition.  usual warnings about data backup apply.
[09:05] <n0cto> thx cfhowlett
[09:05] <cfhowlett> happy2help! n0cto
[09:06] <Zardoz_gnoobot> ubottu: Thanks a lot
[09:06] <guvn0r> if the partition is lvm it can be done
[09:06] <Zardoz_gnoobot> ubottu: Thanks again
[09:06] <bazhang> Zardoz_gnoobot, thats a bot, no need to continue
[09:07] <Zardoz_gnoobot> oh ok
[09:07] <SupaYoshi> hi i've been trying to setup Gmail on this CentOS box, just as I set it up on Ubuntu, but it KEEPS coming up with the STARTTLS error, and it's driving me nuts. Can someone explain me what's causing this, and I've been trying  so much, urgh.
[09:08] <SupaYoshi> http://pastebin.com/7u3CDKM4
[09:08] <bazhang> SupaYoshi, how exactly did you do it on ubuntu
[09:08] <cfhowlett> SupaYoshi, errr, wha?  you're asking for help with Centos?
[09:08] <bazhang> SupaYoshi, repeat those steps, and ask for more helo in #centos
[09:09] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23206273/
[09:10] <specialedge> how do i update my apt-get repositories to include more updates packages?
[09:10] <k1l> SupaYoshi: we cant solve issues from centos in here since we dont know their setup. better ask the centos guys for help
[09:10] <cfhowlett> specialedge, sudo apt full-upgrade       in a terminal
[09:10] <SupaYoshi> np thanks
[09:10] <bazhang> specialedge, did you mean more recent packages, as in just released
[09:11] <k1l> specialedge: what do you mean exactly with "more updates packages"?
[09:11] <n0cto> So I've been pretty consistently getting error messages that KDE Plasma 5 has stopped working and then it has to restart. Does anyone know a way to make it more stable?
[09:11] <specialedge> yeah like ive got nginx 1.4.6 and thats the most recent version my apt-cache reports
[09:11] <k1l> !info nginx
[09:11] <bazhang> n0cto, have you asked in #kubuntu yet
[09:12] <k1l> specialedge: on what ubuntu version are you exactly?
[09:12] <n0cto> nope but I can do that. Is Ubuntu + KDE considered "Kubuntu"?
[09:12] <specialedge> trusty 14.04
[09:12] <k1l> specialedge: 1.4.6 is the latest one on ubuntu 14.04
[09:12] <bazhang> n0cto, plasma is a kde only thing, best ask there
[09:12] <specialedge> on another vps it workedjustfine but my provider hosted the repository
[09:12] <k1l> specialedge: so you need a PPA or another 3rd party repo for that
[09:13] <specialedge> i think so
[09:14] <k1l> specialedge: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=nginx  this is a list of PPAs for nginx
[09:15] <joelio> nginx has their own repo on nging.org btw
[09:15] <joelio> *nginx.org
[09:16] <joelio> fwiw https://nginx.org/en/linux_packages.html
[09:19] <akik> something changes a variable LANGUAGE in my setup to my national language. i've looked into /etc/default/locale, $HOME/.pam_environment and $HOME/.dmrc but can't find it. anyone know where it could be?
[09:21] <barq> I installed java 7 but still get java version 1.6 when doing java - version. How can I get it to use the new vesrion?
[09:21] <specialedge> thanks for the link joelio
[09:22] <hateball> barq: use update-alternatives
[09:23] <barq> When I do sudo update-alternatives --config javac it shows java 7 as selected
[09:23] <barq> I need the jvm 1.7
[09:24] <specialedge> some index files failed to download: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23206320/
[09:27] <akik> found the language setting from /var/lib/AccountsService/users/akik
[09:27] <k1l> specialedge: be very carefull. "trust" is not a ubuntu release
[09:28] <cfhowlett> specialedge, trusty
[09:31] <specialedge> website on top, sources.list on bot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23206341/
[09:33] <specialedge> weird well something worked
[09:33] <k1l> specialedge: better dont put them into the sources.list but into the sources.list.d folder in an own file
[09:34] <specialedge> was able to sudo apt-cache policy nginx where it reported 1.10.1-1~trusty available
[09:36] <specialedge> oh i had edited the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nginx.list from a website wrong in vi, thats where trust came from
[09:36] <specialedge> thanks guys for the help
[09:42] <Antu_> Hi
[09:43] <Antu_> "linux-headers-generic : Depends: linux-headers-3.13.0-96-generic but it is not installed"
[09:43] <Antu_> Any idea how to fix it.
[09:45] <k1l> Antu_: can you put the output of "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" into paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here?
[09:48] <fl3sh> hi, can I upgrade ubuntu from 12 to 14 via do-release-upgrade?
[09:48] <cfhowlett> fl3sh, try it and see????
[09:48] <fl3sh> do-release-upgrade -c show 14.04.5
[09:48] <Antu_> Hello kll:
[09:48] <fl3sh> but when i yestrady performed it
[09:49] <Antu_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23206404/
[09:49] <fl3sh> it upgrade to 16.04 ;/
[09:50] <cfhowlett> fl3sh, if you want 14.04, get the .iso, make a bootable USB and install.
[09:50] <k1l> fl3sh: that is what do-release-upgrade is for. it will upgrade to 16.04
[09:51] <cfhowlett> k1l, I did not know it would jump 2 levels, i.e. 12 >> 16
[09:51] <fl3sh> cfhowlett: omg I do it on server ;p
[09:51] <k1l> cfhowlett: fl3sh oh no. it should not jump from 12.04 to 16.04.
[09:51] <k1l> so there must have been some messing around
 For my understanding  /boot is 100% used how to free it ?
[09:52] <k1l> Antu_: does "df -h" list it as 100%?
[09:52] <cfhowlett> Antu_, remove some old kernels.  sudo apt-get autoremove might do it.
/dev/sda7                        19G   17G  1.4G  93%
 df -ih shows /dev/sda7                        1.2M  1.2M  9.0K  100% /
[09:54] <k1l> Antu_: ah ok. so its not the space its the inodes that are out of stock
[09:55] <k1l> Antu_: can you list "dpkg -l | grep linux-headers | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:55] <varaindemian> I am using system monitor applet and it shows me memory: 1.3 GB, cache 1.8 GB
[09:55] <varaindemian> what does that mean?
[09:56] <varaindemian> htop shows mem and swap
[09:56] <varaindemian> 1000M/3.82G
[09:56] <k1l> !linuxatemyram | varaindemian
[09:56] <k1l> varaindemian: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ this explains the ram usage and what cache is etc.
[09:58] <varaindemian> k1l: does firefox uses more mem after the upcrade that included multiprocess stuff?
http://termbin.com/s7dz
[09:58] <k1l> varaindemian: that depends on your usage and what websites and plugins you use. but in general: ram is there to be used. free ram is waisted money
[09:59] <k1l> Antu_: ok, you can remove a lot of old headers
[09:59] <k1l> Antu_:  start with "sudo apt purge linux-headers-3.13.0-49 linux-headers-3.13.0-49-generic linux-headers-3.13.0-51 linux-headers-3.13.0-51-generic"
http://termbin.com/0ubj
[10:09] <k1l> Antu_: ok, then remove that old kernel files before to make some inodes free
any idea how to remove? manually?
[10:11] <k1l> Antu_: sudo rm -rf /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-49 /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-49-generic /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-51 /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-51-generic"
[10:11] <acetakwas> REGEX help please?
[10:11] <acetakwas> I want match a text starting with 8 digits and ending with 7012; is this correct: \d{8}7012\b
[10:11] <k1l> acetakwas: #bash is good for regex questions
[10:12] <acetakwas> k1l::  Thanks
 Thanks! restart is required after this?
[10:13] <k1l> Antu_: no. "sudo apt-get install -f" now
 everything is back to normal now. Thanks alot :)
[10:19] <k1l> Antu_: wait. you can remove a lot of old kernels and headers
[10:20] <k1l> Antu_: echo $(dpkg --list | grep linux-image | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort -V | sed -n '/'`uname -r`'/q;p') $(dpkg --list | grep linux-headers | awk '{ print $2 }' | sort -V | sed -n '/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\([0-9.-]*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/q;p') | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
[10:24] <elias_a> Why is Evince not zooming a PDF more than 96,89%?
[10:24] <elias_a> Running 16.04 LTS
[10:25] <varaindemian> k1l: are you aware of any method to pipe the content of htop to the top bar?
[10:25] <k1l> varaindemian: i dont understand what you mean/want
[10:26] <k1l> varaindemian: as i understand you, look for system load indicator.
[10:30] <EriC^^> varaindemian: there's a cpu indicator, i think it's called
[10:31] <EriC^^> indicator-cpufreq
[10:32] <EriC^^> there'a also indicator-multiload
[10:33] <k1l> http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[10:36] <r120> why i am getting segmentation fault(core dumped ) on running application
[10:37] <hateball> r120: which app?
[10:39] <guiverc> elias_a: i just loaded evince & a pdf; could expand beyond that... it defaulted to a zoom that fitted on my screen size; maybe that's what its doing for you.
[10:39] <EriC^^> varaindemian: indicator-cpufreq actually doesn't indicate anything, it lets you change the cpu scaling frequency
[10:42] <r120> I created a app in qt (ubuntu 16.04) and try to run on virtual box ubuntu 14.04  hateball
[10:42] <r120> I created a app in qt (ubuntu 16.04) and try to run on virtual box ubuntu 14.04  hateball:
[10:43] <guiverc> r120:  i usually get segfault due to typo, i'm trying to use data as an address or equiv. ie. its my own bug/logic-flaw usually result of a typo in my c code.
[10:44] <r120> guiverc : but why this run on deployement machine ?
[10:44] <hateball> different libc, qt, who knows? use gdb to debug
[10:44] <hateball> it's not really ubuntu support
[10:45] <mcphail> r120: I think there has been a c++ ABI change between 14.04 and 16.04
[10:46] <r120> mcphail : and i get error on strace is ./soduku-solver: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5: no version information available (required by ./soduku-solver)
[10:49] <pauljw> Q
[10:50] <joelio> r120: just install qt5-default on trusty?
[10:51] <joelio> r120: you still need the dependencies, no matter what OS you install to
[10:51] <r120> joelio: mean every person who use my app need to install qt (1 GB size) with it?
[10:52] <ikonia> r120: what dependencies does your app actually have ?
[10:52] <joelio> r120: if you use qt5, then there will be dependencies.. sure, dunno about a gig, but there are dependencies. That's what you have to deal with when using large frameworks
[10:54] <r120> i check all dependencies using ldd command and then copied all .so in seprate folder with binary and create bash script to export LD_LIBRARY_PATH and execute binary
[10:54] <ikonia> ldd will only show you libraries
[10:54] <ikonia> and you should not ned LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[10:55] <ikonia> you need to understand your dependencies fully and how they map to the ubuntu packages
[11:02] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:02] <joelio> r120: that's really not the way to handle dependencies in ubuntu. It may work in isolated cases where you've got same os and libc/gcc etc but not for your case. You need to really apt-get install the dependencies
[11:03] <r120> joelio: I will try this . thanku guys
[11:24] <ketchuplover> Hi all! Ketchuplover has a problem with Ubuntu 14.04. Can anybody deal?
[11:25] <k1l> ketchuplover: if you explain the error and specifics people in here could try to help :)
[11:26] <ketchuplover> Thanks kil. I'm trying to update. Updater tells me there's not enough room on the drive for my updates. Wants me to MAKE room. I'm pretty raw, so I don't know how to do that. So here I am.
[11:27] <k1l> ketchuplover: ok, please run a "df -h |nc termbin.com 9999" in terminal and show the output-url in here please
[11:28] <ketchuplover> Will do, kil. Gimme a minute.
[11:30] <ketchuplover> Kil -- output is http://termbin.com/xpgl
[11:31] <k1l> ketchuplover: ok. please show the outputurl of "ls -al /boot | nc termbin.com 9999" and "dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:34] <ketchuplover> Kil output of first command is http://termbin.com/2i69. output of second command is http://termbin.com/u29j
[11:36] <[_]`> Hi, i want to run this application http://vue.tufts.edu/download/index.cfm?fromvue=1 , i've got the .jar file but i am kinda lost as to what to do next. do i download java and run java -jar file.jar?
[11:36] <[_]`> I am too used to apt-get :(
[11:36] <geirha> java you can install with apt-get at least
[11:37] <[_]`> Yes, but not sure that is the answer.. i think i might be doing something wrong
[11:37] <k1l> ketchuplover: did you install that 4.4 kernel manually?
[11:39] <hateball> [_]`: java -jar file.jar is the usual way, yes
[11:39] <[_]`> ahh so i do need java installed, ty
[11:39] <[_]`> sudo apt-get install java? :S
[11:39] <k1l> ketchuplover: please try a "sudo dpkg --remove linux-image-4.4.0-34-generic"
[11:40] <hateball> [_]`: just run "java" in the terminal and it'll suggest the package
[11:40] <hateball> !java
[11:40] <ketchuplover> kil I installed the 16 update manually a couple of weeks ago. It ran pretty clunky for a week or ten days. Then it told me I needed to do an auto update. So I did. Now I've got a system in which I installed 16 manually and ended up with 14.04.
[11:40] <k1l> ketchuplover: wait, what does "installed manually" mean? that is actually not how upgrades are supposed to work
[11:41] <[_]`> hateball: it listed 5 packages and says The program 'java' can be found in the following packages:
[11:41] <geirha> [_]`: apt-get intall openjdk-9-jre
[11:41] <[_]`> ty!
[11:41] <hateball> [_]`: yes it depends what version you need/want, see the url above
[11:42] <ketchuplover> Kil It means I booted an upgrade file and let the software do the rest.
[11:42] <k1l> ketchuplover: ok, that sounds like a mess.
[11:42] <ketchuplover> Kil -- it was a Ubuntu upgrade file.
[11:42] <k1l> ketchuplover: please show the output of "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:43] <ketchuplover> Kil -- I get http://termbin.com/lwpq
[11:44] <PCatinean> Hey guys I have a library that generates a PDF from html. And the html has "Helvetica Light" font set
[11:44] <k1l> ketchuplover: ok, then please run "sudo dpkg --remove linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-24-generic"
[11:45] <PCatinean> And for some reason the pdf comes out with another font. Do I need to install it locally?
[11:45] <PCatinean> I think I already installed truetype fonts
[11:45] <[_]`> hmm, i can now run the .jre but i am getting this error Downloads/VUE.jar' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.
[11:46] <[_]`> Do you think i downloaded it wrong or might be something else?
[11:46] <ketchuplover> Kil -- I get  sudo dpkg --remove linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-24-generic [sudo] password for deacon:  (Reading database ... 267904 files and directories currently installed.) Removing linux-image-extra-3.13.0-24-generic (3.13.0-24.47) ... Examining /etc/kernel/postrm.d . run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postrm.d/initramfs-tools 3.13.0-24-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-24-generic update-initramfs: Deleting
[11:46] <hateball> [_]`: chmod +x file.jar
[11:47] <hateball> [_]`: and do mind the warning. make sure it is a trusted thing
[11:47] <k1l> ketchuplover: if you want to show several lines, put them on paste.ubuntu.com and link the url. that is better readable then.
[11:47] <[_]`> ahh right, ty!
[11:47] <k1l> ketchuplover: so that worked. now run a "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[11:48] <PCatinean> any1?
[11:48] <max> hi
[11:48] <[_]`> Everything is working perfectly now, ty guys! ty hateball ! (read up on executable bit as well, now i know)
[11:49] <ketchuplover> Kil -- it says it's working on it.
[11:49] <hateball> !tab | ketchuplover
[11:49] <k1l> ketchuplover: if its working, let it run. if there is a error please show the full output on paste.ubuntu.com
[11:49] <Guest95506> ok
[11:50] <Guest95506> :D
[11:51] <ketchuplover> Kil It's unpacking now. Back in a short with the verdict
[11:52] <k1l> ketchuplover: just let it run :)
[11:52] <Anticom> Hi all. I'd like to use rpmbuild on my Ubuntu Xenial installation. However there is no specific rpmbuild package but only rpm. Now i'm afraid that i might break apt/dpkg when installing rpm
[11:53] <ketchuplover> Kil I got a command line again. I think it's happy.
[11:54] <k1l> ketchuplover: if it doesnt tell you it had an error, at the end, then its fine. yes.
[11:55] <ketchuplover> Kil -- I don't know how to thank you. Maybe some virtual beer?
[11:55] <k1l> ketchuplover: no problem, all fine :)
[11:56] <ketchuplover> Kil -- well, you do great work. I hope you get paid for this. If you don't, then you're positively a hero. Thanks a million.
[11:57] <ubernets> k(one)l
[11:59] <chainsawr> hi 0/`
[12:01] <alb-ot> does anyone suggest a good IDE for python in ubuntu for beginners?
[12:09] <incog> freenode is spying on you: Head over to #antispammeta @ freenode & type ;investigate & your usual nick to see a snitchbot spam your info
[12:12] <Lope> anyone here tried using thunderbird, storing the emails in maildir format? (one file per email) I'm considering changing over to it to drastically speedup backup operations. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/maildir-thunderbird https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Maildir
[12:14] <LuMint> Hi, I have a question concerning PPAs. Is it possible to use them only as building scripts? (much like AUR in Arch)
[12:17] <ikonia> Lope: I have it setup that way
[12:17] <ikonia> Lope: no
[12:17] <ikonia> Lope: sorry - not "no" for you
[12:17] <ikonia> LuMint: no,
[12:17] <ikonia> LuMint: there will be source debs
[12:19] <LuMint> ikonia: so basically the only way to make sure the package is not tampered with is to read sources, not just build scripts?
[12:20] <EriC^> what package?
[12:20] <EriC^> oh you mean if..
[12:20] <EriC^> i think somebody could put anything he wanted in the post-rm and such stuff in dpkg no?
[12:20] <EriC^> not just the sources
[12:23] <LuMint> EriC^: yes
[12:24] <LuMint> EriC^: afaic in AUR you only have to read the build script to be sure everything is fine
[12:24] <Lope> ikonia: has it been stable for you?
[12:24] <LuMint> EriC^: and so is it with open suse
[12:24] <Lope> ikonia: I've read that there are some bugs with thunderbird in Maildir format relating to imap.
[12:25] <Lope> ikonia: what I plan to do is: backup, change the setting so that new accounts will use maildir format. Then I plan to rename my accounts to "$foo(old)" and then re-create them as new ones (which should be in maildir format). Then copy all the messages from the old accounts to the new accounts. Then check stuff, then delete the old accounts.
[12:26] <ikonia> Lope: rock solid since......2002 I think this mail host has been up from
[12:26] <ikonia> LuMint: build scripts mean nothing
[12:26] <ikonia> LuMint: as they just execute a build against the source - there is no promise that the source has not been touched
[12:26] <ikonia> LuMint: the question is why do you need this ?
[12:27] <ikonia> the whole point of using a binary package manager is to use the binary packages
[12:27] <Lope> ikonia: can you confirm you're using thunderbird in maildir format (not the default database format)?
[12:27] <ikonia> Lope: ahhh, I may have missunderstood, hang on
[12:27] <LuMint> ikonia: because I've realized adding ppas to your system isn't any better than installing .exe files from random software sites
[12:27] <Southern_Gentlem> how does one find out what version of a package they are using like cups
[12:28] <LuMint> ikonia: so I want to build things that are not in the official repos and not in trusted PPAs
[12:28] <ikonia> LuMint: then why do you care about a PPA's build scripts
[12:28] <ikonia> LuMint: as you've just stated you don't trust them
[12:29] <ikonia> sebuba: dpkg -l | grep cups
[12:29] <ikonia> oops
[12:29] <ikonia> Southern_Gentlem: dpkg -l | grep cups, apt-cache policy cups
[12:29] <LuMint> ikonia: I'm not good at writing build scripts, so I need them. I can proof read them to make sure everything is fine, but writing is another thing...
[12:29] <ikonia> LuMint: but they are worthless
[12:29] <ikonia> LuMint: I think you're approaching this totally wrong
[12:30] <ikonia> LuMint: the build scripts have to call out things like the source bundle, patches etc, so you can see exactly what's going on
[12:30] <LuMint> ikonia: i'm open to advice
[12:30] <ikonia> if you don't trust that - there is no point in using it, if you do trust it, you should use the binary package
[12:30] <LuMint> ikonia: but couldn't I get the source bundle from the official website?
[12:31] <ikonia> Lope: sorry - it's per account mbox in thunderbird
[12:31] <ikonia> LuMint: what value is that ?
[12:32] <popey> ikonia: maybe I am misunderstanding. LuMint you want to use launchpad as a remote build service?
[12:32] <popey> (or did I get wrong end of the stick?)
[12:32] <EriC^> LuMint: if it's a launchpad account you can grab the source tarball and check it out and the other stuff
[12:32] <ikonia> popey: he wants to use it as a template for local builds
[12:32] <ikonia> popey: as I'm understanding it,
[12:32] <ikonia> I could be wrong
[12:32] <popey> oh, okay. that works
[12:32] <LuMint> ikonia: well, that'd mean the sources are clean. I'm not sure I'll be able to find patches though.
[12:32] <LuMint> ikonia: you are right
[12:32] <EriC^> LuMint: if it's a private ppa then they can just have the .deb's there and you can't tell much
[12:32] <popey> I frequently use "dget" to grab source from launchpad and then modify and build locally
[12:33] <ikonia> LuMint: the whole point of the builds on a PPA is someone has made the builds, patched the source etc etc for you, and it's clearly shown what they have patched
[12:33] <ikonia> LuMint: so trust it or don't
[12:33] <ikonia> but to half trust it - but then expect it to work when you modify it isn't good
[12:33] <popey> well, you can also use ppas to build for yourself
[12:33] <A_J> hi
[12:34] <LuMint> ikonia: what I want is just to be sure the sources were not tampered with and there's nothing undesired in patches and build scripts
[12:34] <popey> LuMint: so grab the source with dget?
[12:35] <popey> and look at it yourself
[12:35] <ikonia> LuMint: then there isn't really a point in using the PPA
[12:35] <popey> LuMint: is there any package in particular you're interested in?
[12:35] <ikonia> as the patches will be documented in the manifest
[12:35] <LuMint> popey: that's what I'm looking for. I'll try it, thanks. I think it'd be a good idea to download official sources and run diff on both
[12:35] <ikonia> if you don't want to trust the patches that are documented....what's the point
[12:36] <popey> I would trust the archive more than a ppa, obviously
[12:36] <LuMint> ikonia: how are they documented? I've checked a couple of ppas I use and couldn't find this documentation, maybe I wasn't looking in the right place?
[12:36] <ikonia> LuMint: the patches should be called out in the manifest
[12:37] <Lope> ikonia: ok.
[12:38] <JAWC> I just updated a KVM VPS running 16.04. It has encrypted swap. It no longer boots, hanging at "A start job is running for dev-mapper-swap.device". How do I un-break it?
[12:38] <ikonia> JAWC: remove the swap line from fstab first
[12:38] <ikonia> JAWC: get it to boot
[12:38] <ikonia> then asses the problem
[12:39] <ikonia> assess too
[12:43] <LuMint> popey: well, I wanted to start with this package https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/ubuntu/mpv-tests
[12:44] <LuMint> this particular package is chosen for learning purposes though, because the ppa seems trusted
[12:44] <popey> LuMint: what version of ubuntu?
[12:44] <LuMint> *trustworthy
[12:44] <LuMint> 14 04
[12:44] <LuMint> i see there diff files, deb packages and a source archive
[12:44] <LuMint> are patches documented in diff files?
[12:45] <popey> LuMint:  just dget -x https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/ubuntu/mpv-tests/+files/mpv_0.19.0~trusty.dsc
[12:45] <popey> LuMint: depends on the developer
[12:45] <popey> LuMint: but you have to read them and understand them if you are going to trust them
[12:50] <LuMint> popey: what do you mean, sources or diff files?
[12:51] <LuMint> popey: and wouldn't it be possible to download the build scripts from ppa, and the sources - from mpv's github?
[12:51] <sorin-mihai> i need to add resize2fs in initrd to be able to resize the root partition. for some reason, on this vps i can't resize live. any idea which method should I use?
[12:51] <popey> LuMint: sure
[12:52] <popey> LuMint: forgive my bluntness, but the fact that you're asking that, frankly, implies you're not qualified/skilled do to any of this and come up with a satisfactory answer about what the patches are, and do?
[12:53] <LuMint> popey: i understand C a bit and I understand bash and that's it.
[12:54] <popey> Good luck! :)
[12:54] <Anticom> Hi all. I'd like to use rpmbuild on my Ubuntu Xenial installation. However there is no specific rpmbuild package but only rpm. Now i'm afraid that i might break apt/dpkg when installing rpm
[12:55] <popey> Anticom: installing rpm itself should be fine itself, just don't go installing rpms with it :)
[12:55] <BluesKaj_> !rpm
[12:55] <LuMint> popey: thanks. But you are right in that I'm not really skilled
[12:55] <popey> Anticom: there's quite a difference between installing the tool and using the tool
[12:56] <Anticom> BluesKaj_: i never said i wanted to install any rpm's on my machine...
[12:56] <popey> LuMint: me neither :)
[12:56] <popey> Anticom: it's just a standard canned response when people mention rpm round these parts :)
[12:56] <Anticom> popey: i just need rpmbuild
[12:56] <popey> should be okay
[12:56] <Anticom> popey: and afaik it's in the rpm package
[12:56] <popey> do it in a vm if you're really worried
[12:57] <Anticom> popey: got my dotfiles repo up to date... so what could possibly go wrong ;)
[12:57] <LuMint> Anticom: you might as well try Bedrock
[12:57] <BluesKaj_> Anticom, well installing rpm implies you want to install rpm packages IMO
[12:58] <Anticom> BluesKaj_: I've written in my originial question that i needed rpmbuild
[12:58] <Anticom> (=
[12:58] <february> zsun  socat[6572] E connect(5, AF=2 <IP_ADDRESS>:11880, 16): No route to host
[12:58] <BluesKaj_> so whay are you asking here/
[12:58] <Anticom> cpack needs rpmbuild to pack rpm's which i need for my target device
[12:59] <february> <IP_ADDRESS>:11880
[12:59] <sorin-mihai> Anticom, why not make a chroot/vm?
[13:01] <LuMint> sorin-mihai: dockers is also an option
[13:01] <LuMint> or bedrock
[13:01] <LuMint> ^docker
[13:01] <LuMint> popey: so how does using dget improve security?
[13:01] <joelio> cough, lxd
[13:04] <duckface> heyy
[13:04] <duckface> anyone actually reply maybe??
[13:04] <duckface> sd
[13:04] <duckface> sd
[13:04] <duckface> fs
[13:04] <duckface> dfs
[13:04] <popey> LuMint: it doesn't. It's just a tool
[13:05] <LuMint> popey: what's it for? To build a package that doesn't work on your machine?
[13:06] <popey> LuMint: maybe read the man page?
[13:06] <kqr> hello! I'm running my system without a pre-packaged graphical desktop, but I'd still like to receive notifications for things like low battery. I have installed libnotify-tools as well as notify-osd, but if I try to notify-send in the terminal... it appears to succeed but no notification is displayed. where do I start troubleshooting that?
[13:06] <ikonia> LuMint: is there a PPA you're worried about specfically ?
[13:06] <ikonia> LuMint: or is there a tool you want but you can't find/trust
[13:07] <ikonia> maybe your actual usecase, we could help remove / confirm your concerns
[13:08] <tondano> good night from indonesian
[13:11] <Phryq> anyone can recommend a text-only browser? I don't mean CLI, but a GUI browser that will just display the website's text
[13:12] <kqr> oh so it turns out notify-osd has to be running too. never mind my question!
[13:12] <hateball> Phryq: firefox has a "reading mode", dunno if that does what you need
[13:12] <Southern_Gentlem> lynx?
[13:13] <punkoivan> + to reading mode
[13:14] <Phryq> no, I want it to load no images etc... only text
[13:14] <Phryq> ya, I think lynx
[13:17] <Bilbander> hi I have a question about 16.04
[13:18] <synaps3> Hi I have problem with Asus USB n13 WI-Fi adapter
[13:18] <Bilbander> hi I have a strange boot sequence on ubuntu16.04 I tried to upgrade a while back from 14.?? to 16.04 I gave up and just installed a new 16.04 on the same drive with win8 so its been going along smoothly until yesterday when it wanted to update and it all went tits up. I get the Ubuntu log in screens but it will not boot into 16.04 I saw something about ecc in the bios so went to defaults in the bios and it  so long story short do
[13:18] <LuMint> ikonia: it's not as if I have something spooky installed. But I feel insecure for example about this repo https://launchpad.net/~midori/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[13:19] <LuMint> ikonia: I want a tool that would simplify building stuff I can't find in trustworthy repos
[13:19] <Bilbander> think it is a grub p[roblem or siomething else
[13:20] <hateball> synaps3: what seems to be the problem?
[13:23] <Bilbander> anyone ?
[13:24] <vfw> Bilbander: Look at your initial description.  Is it accurate?
[13:24] <Bilbander> yeah though sort of broken up
[13:25] <vfw> So you did updates for the first time on 16.04 and ran into this problem?
[13:25] <Bilbander> I installed 16.04 on a internal with win 8 and pushed the original 14.0? to the side
[13:25] <vfw> Bilbander: Did you wipe out the 14.04 install?  Or did you install 16.04 alongside 14.04, and Win8?
[13:25] <Bilbander>  Now after trying to update it will not start 16.04 it goes to enter for maintainance or ctrl to reboot'
[13:26] <Bilbander> alongside
[13:26] <Bilbander> after a ecc problem notice i went to default bios and it seems it is booting into 14 again
[13:27] <Bilbander> I see the ubuntu 16.04 but it goes into the boot loop
[13:27] <Southern_Gentlem> LuMint, sorry but you think anything you would build should be more trustworthy, if so how
[13:27] <Bilbander> does it sound like GRUB
[13:28] <vfw> Bilbander: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[13:28] <Southern_Gentlem> the link you posted https://launchpad.net/~midori/+archive/ubuntu/ppa  at least has a public presence and you can communicate with the maintainers to correct issues
[13:28] <Bilbander> you think it is grub even though i see all the installations at the Ubunto boot screen?
[13:29] <Anticom> What's the best way to get makeinfo for Ubuntu Xenial?
[13:30] <coder> hello
[13:31] <Guest84837> show me the money
[13:31] <urbanendeavour> Are there other chat public chat room systems than IRC, if so what are they?
[13:31] <VoxSonor> GM all
[13:31] <urbanendeavour> Does anyone know how to get Xenial working with Ansible?
[13:32] <Pici> !alis | urbanendeavour
[13:32] <urbanendeavour> It fails to run since Xenial installs deploys with Python 3 and not 2.7
[13:32] <vfw> Bilbander: You may have to do boot-repair
[13:32] <Pici> urbanendeavour: we also have #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:32] <vfw> Bilbander: http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/
[13:32] <urbanendeavour> I meant other chat systems, other than IRC
[13:32] <Bilbander> thanks vfw
[13:33] <vfw> Bilbander: But have you stopped the boot process and then look at grub's boot options?
[13:33] <Bilbander> if i boot into 16.04 it shows a list of files to be checked
[13:33] <Bilbander> does that sound like the boot repair?
[13:33] <vfw> Bilbander: Oh, wait... You *can* boot to 16.04?
[13:34] <vfw> Bilbander: So, it is the 14.04 that will no longer boot?
[13:34] <Bilbander> no it tries to boot into it but goes into the enter for maintainace or ctrl for reboot
[13:34] <vfw> Bilbander: Oh ok.  It must be filesystem error.
[13:34] <markerz18> ok guys so i have 9 days to learn everything about ubuntu. start naming books that cover a lot of it
[13:35] <vfw> Bilbander: You need to follow on-screen instructions.
[13:35] <Bilbander> vfw its complicated i know I reset the bios and it now boots into what i think is 14.04 its my old descktop
[13:35] <vfw> Bilbander:  The on-screen instructions says something like running fsck -y  Right?
[13:36] <vfw> Bilbander: DO what it says.
[13:36] <Bilbander> not sure
[13:36] <Bilbander> I tried what it says
[13:36] <vfw> Boot to it again.  Read what it says.  Do it.
[13:36] <vfw> Bilbander: What error did you get?D
[13:36] <Bilbander> I dont remember
[13:37] <Bilbander> sorry
[13:37] <Bilbander> will try it again
[13:37] <MikeGuy> Hey guys. I can't install things on the software center and my synaptic package manager doesn't open unless I open it through the terminal
[13:37] <MikeGuy> can anyone help me out?
[13:37] <Bilbander> it just goes in a loop
[13:37] <vfw> Bilbander: What you have are file system errors on one of the partitions.  It can only be repaired when *not* mounted.
[13:38] <Bilbander> ok sound good at least that is something
[13:38] <Bilbander> to work with
[13:38] <Bilbander> thanks vfw
[13:38] <vfw> Bilbander: You can more-than-likely fix it if you follow those instructions.  If not, you probably need to look for another hard drive.  (If fsck is unable to fix the errors, the HD is probably failing.)
[13:39] <vfw> Bilbander: You can run diagnostics on the HD and see what the health looks like ... etc.
[13:40] <Bilbander> whats the full code to add at command promt fsck
[13:40] <vfw> Bilbander: But try again.  Do what it says.  Make sure you run fsck against the partition that 16.04 is installed on.  If it fails to repair the errors, come back here and tell us what the errror says.
[13:41] <vfw> Bilbander: fsck -y /dev/sda5
[13:41] <Bilbander> ok will do bye
[13:41] <vfw> Bilbander: (Where sda5 is the partition that has file system errors.)
[13:42] <Bilbander> yeah i think it is sda5
[13:42] <vfw> Bilbander: /dev/sda5 is *only* an example.
[13:42] <LuMint> Southern_Gentlem: because i won't insert malware in my build
[13:42] <Bilbander> I get thanks
[13:42] <LuMint> Southern_Gentlem: also because i'd take the source from the devs
[13:42] <Southern_Gentlem> LuMint, and you think there is malware already installed in what you were referenceing how ?
[13:43] <MikeGuy> can anyone help me determine what's wrong with my software center? It keeps giving me two errors, one of them being a server error and the other being me not having the priviliges to complete that action
[13:43] <vfw> Bilbander: You need to know which partition it is for sure.  But it won't hurt if you run it on a partition that does not have errors, it will only come back and tell you that there are no errors.
[13:43] <LuMint> Southern_Gentlem: afaic there were a couple of incidents. Personally I only had a build from a user repo (a console messenger) that would eat up 1GB ram in 12 hours
[13:44] <LuMint> Southern_Gentlem: i didn't reverse it so I really don't know what was inside
[13:48] <MikeGuy> can anyone help me determine what's wrong with my software center? It keeps giving me two errors, one of them being a server error and the other being me not having the priviliges to complete that action
[13:49] <mikolotko> git question. I've successfully cloned pixel-dungeon but I don't exactly know how to open it. I tried pixel_dungeon on terminal but no.
[13:49] <petrolo> !LIST.
[13:53] <vfw> MikeGuy: The error for not having privilidges is more-than-likely because you did not use sudo
[13:55] <MikeGuy> vfw, it works just fine on terminal, I just want to know how I can install things just on the software center
[13:55] <vfw> MikeGuy: The server error may be beyond your control.  It may be that one of the servers it is trying to access is just not available right now, but it could be that you have an error in sources.list, (an entry that points to a server that does not exist, or....).
[13:56] <OerHeks> error in softwarecenter should show on commandline too, no?
[13:56] <vfw> MikeGuy: Well, that may be because you are trying to install a package that is not in the repositories you are using, (or upgrading one that is not in your current set of repositories).
[13:57] <MikeGuy> ok, vfw. I appreciate it. One more question, my Synaptic Package Manager doesn't open unless I open it through the terminal. Do you know why that could be?
[13:58] <OerHeks> software center error, synaptic won't open, but cli is fine??
[14:07] <vfw> MikeGuy: Yea, I don't know why synaptic won't open.
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> vfw: tried synapitc launch from terminal?
[14:08] <vfw> lotuspsychje: Ask MikeGuy.  (He is the one that has the problem.)
[14:08] <OerHeks> MikeGuy, show us a screenshot of softwarecentererrors?
[14:08] <MikeGuy> Ok, OerHeks. One sec
[14:08] <MikeGuy> and just to preface anything further, I'm running 14.04 on a Chromebook through Crouton
[14:09] <designbybeck_> I've tried using Brasero on Ubuntu 16.04 on two machines to burn DVDs and neither of them ever burn
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> !burn | designbybeck_ tried other tools also?
[14:10] <vfw> designbybeck_: Do you get errrors?
[14:11] <designbybeck_> didn't get any errors vfw just click the burn button but the DVDs never spin up
[14:11] <designbybeck_> I'll look at a few others lotuspsychje
[14:11] <designbybeck_> thank you
[14:11] <DJones> designbybeck_: I always use k3b for burning, pretty sure I've had issues with brasero before now
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> designbybeck_: perhaps launching brasero from terminal or syslog tail could help catching errors?
[14:12] <OerHeks> Brasero is optional now, not standard installed.
[14:12] <OerHeks> (16.04)
[14:12] <vfw> designbybeck_: growisofs -dvd-compat -dvd-video -speed=4 -Z /dev/dvd dvd/*
[14:13] <vfw> designbybeck_: if it's a video...
[14:13] <vfw> designbybeck_: I like k3b
[14:13] <designbybeck_> It has been so long since I've used DVDs I had forgotten about k3b! I liked that back in the day
[14:13] <designbybeck_> thanks vfw and DJones
[14:14] <designbybeck_> installing it now! I'm having to burn old videos for someone...but I'm going to give them a USB with the files on it as well ha
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> i wonder if handbrake can burn to dvd, anyone knows?
[14:15] <vfw> designbybeck_: I don't blame you, just coping files to a USB is easier.
[14:16] <MikeGuy> OerHeks http://i66.tinypic.com/6f6uy0.jpg
[14:17] <vfw> lotuspsychje: I've done that for various friends/family members as well.  I think next time, I'll just copy to my raspberry PI and loan it out.
[14:17] <suppers1125> Is there any sort of window manager like Divvy or something for 16.04?
[14:17] <DJones> lotuspsychje: Good reminder, I'd forgotten about handbrake
[14:18] <badeball> if a package resides with an old version in trusty, how does one typically go about installing a more recent version?
[14:18] <suppers1125> Something where I can create shortcuts to move the current window to be different sizes/locations
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> DJones: didnt use myself, but many users swear by it saying its solid
[14:19] <DJones> lotuspsychje: Yeah, used to use it years ago along with devede, but not having tohave anything to do with video over the last few years, it'd slipped my mind
[14:19] <OerHeks> MikeGuy, is PolicyKit Authentication Agent unchecked in Startup Programs ? see http://askubuntu.com/questions/218961/software-cant-be-installed-or-removed-because-the-authentication-service-is-no/218970
[14:20] <MikeGuy> OerHeks, I'm not sure. I'll give it a look and be right back
[14:20] <vfw> !screenshot > MikeGuy
[14:21] <vfw> !screenshot | MikeGuy
[14:21] <Mement> MySQL Workbench is terrible on my Ubuntu end. :) Any recommendations for other MySQL GUI?
[14:21] <DArqueBishop> Mement: phpMyAdmin?
[14:22] <Mement> DArqueBishop, I think that might crash with 10.000+ records(?) Not sure
[14:24] <MikeGuy> OerHeks, I put in /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 but the terminal said No session for pid 27773
[14:26] <OerHeks> I think you have the angle there, did softwarecenter ever work?
[14:31] <MikeGuy> OerHeks, yes it did. Before I updated to 14.04 immediately after installing it through crouton
[14:33] <vfw> MikeGuy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/218961/software-cant-be-installed-or-removed-because-the-authentication-service-is-no/218970
[14:34] <vfw> Sorry, I now see that you guys have that information already.
[14:34] <MikeGuy> OerHeks already linked me to that article, vfw. The terminal commands did nothing
[14:34] <OerHeks> maybe policykit-1-gnome is not even installed?
[14:34] <MikeGuy> I checked, OerHeks. It's installed at the latest version
[14:35] <vfw> MikeGuy: OerHeks Maybe just reboot?
[14:35] <vfw> MikeGuy: OerHeks Maybe just some updates that are not completed?
[14:36] <vfw> MikeGuy: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[14:36] <MikeGuy> vfw, I guess I can try updating again and see what happens
[14:36] <OerHeks> Maybe it is a python thing, this command should do no harm, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:37] <badeball> is it possible to get jq-1.5 on ubuntu trusty?
[14:37] <OerHeks> or the ugly way: sudo apt-get --purge --reinstall install software-center software-properties-common software-properties-gtk
[14:38] <vfw> MikeGuy: All of the above.
[14:38] <MikeGuy> Alright, vfw & OerHeks, trying all of the above, thanks. Trying now
[14:39] <OerHeks> MikeGuy, odd thing is, commandline works you say
[14:39] <rumflump> !es
[14:42] <MikeGuy> yep, same thing. Authentication error and not enough privileges. OerHeks, vfw
[14:42] <vfw> MikeGuy: Did you reboot?
[14:43] <vfw> MikeGuy: Did you do:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  ?
[14:43] <vfw> .. and then reboot?
[14:43] <MikeGuy> No, vfw. My apologies, forgot. Let me try that. Brb. as for the second, yes I did
[14:46] <OerHeks> I am out of clues now :-(
[14:47] <vfw> Go get some more
[14:47] <MikeGuy_> vfw, OerHuks, no success
[14:47] <OerHeks> reinstall softwarecenter ..
[14:48] <MikeGuy_> I did that before reboot, OerHuks
[14:48] <OerHeks> Oke, noted.
[14:49] <Whiffle_bat> I need some help tweaking some video settings. I have no icon launcher or top bar in my main user account, but they are present in my guest account. What do I do?
[14:49] <asker001> hiho guys, i trie to run "ntpdate xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" as global autostart under ubuntu mate 16.04 LTS - how can i exec this?
[14:49] <vfw> MikeGuy_: OerHeks Did we look at:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/218961/software-cant-be-installed-or-removed-because-the-authentication-service-is-no/218970 ?
[14:50] <MikeGuy_> yes, vfw. The solution in that thread did not work for me. I can try again, though
[14:50] <OerHeks> vfw, that was the 1st page i linked, unchecked policykit on the bottom part
[14:51] <vfw> Not much there we havent already seen.  Must be time for bug report.
[14:51] <Whiffle_bat> I need some help tweaking some video settings. I have no icon launcher or top bar in my main user account, but they are present in my guest account. What do I do?
[14:51] <MikeGuy_> (polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:13667): polkit-gnome-1-WARNING **: Unable to determine the session we are in: No session for pid 13667 is what I get when I enter the command line in that thread
[14:52] <MikeGuy_> I don't know if this can be attributed to the fact that I am dualbooting ubuntu with chromeOS through crouton
[14:52] <vfw> MikeGuy_: To tell the truth, I never use "Software Center" anyway.  I just cut to the chase and use apt-get
[14:52] <OerHeks> Whiffle_bat, sounds like unity-plugin is disabled, ctrl alt T : ccsm # and enable unity plugin again
[14:52] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/450427/how-enable-unity-again
[14:53] <vfw> MikeGuy_: But I agree that we should try to solve the problem.
[14:54] <MikeGuy_> vfw, I might have to start doing the same. I'll start learning learning more commands for the terminal. I'm to heavily dependent on easy to use GUI's
[14:55] <crazyadm> you guys sounds like there are many apps to install
[14:55] <vfw> MikeGuy_: Yea, what ever is easier.... and to me, it just seems quicker and easier to use apt
[14:56] <crazyadm> i setup an LNMP and don't know what to install next
[14:56] <Keydns> What can one do with an ubuntu on a laptop?
[14:57] <kurtis>  I have some problems with Nvidia drivers
[14:57] <crazyadm>  i made my old laptop a file center
[14:57] <vfw> crazyadm: What exactly are you trying to do?  (What is your end goal?)
[14:57] <vfw> Keydns: Lots
[14:57] <DArqueBishop> Keydns: pretty much anything you can do with Windows on a laptop, I would say.
[14:58] <crazyadm> my goal is to set a web server, samba server
[14:58] <kurtis> I should desist?
[14:58] <vfw> kurtis: no
[14:58] <crazyadm> nginx, php, mysql
[14:58] <vfw> !nvidia | kurtis
[14:58] <crazyadm> it's not a busy web server
[14:59] <crazyadm> a rhel7 repo
[14:59] <crazyadm> that's about it
[14:59] <kurtis> In trying , but always have the same problem when reboot
[15:00] <crazyadm> this is very old laptop too. celeron
[15:00] <Keydns> How would i figure out what i can do? Its a bran new laptop
[15:00] <MikeGuy_> quick question, one of the pros of using the software center is that the installed programs are listed so when I forget about a program that I never use or have an obsolete program, I can just check and uninstall them one by one. Is there an alternate way of doing that?
[15:00] <vfw> crazyadm: You need to ask a question and give details.  We can only give advice for specific issues.
[15:01] <vfw> MikeGuy_: Yes
[15:01] <crazyadm> my question is, what's a faster file server than nginx
[15:01] <crazyadm> with php container
[15:02] <KingOfOOP> apt-get update command gives the "got NODATA (does the network...)" error. What is the solution ?
[15:02] <MikeGuy_> vfw, great! What would the alternate method be?
[15:03] <vfw> MikeGuy_: One thing you can do is show what the latest installed packages are
[15:03] <vfw> MikeGuy_: ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info/*list
[15:03] <vfw> (Shows latest last
[15:03] <joelio> crazyadm: nginx is quick, it depends on *how* you serve up php, fpm or cgi stuff etc.
[15:04] <joelio> just changing the web server top level isn't where the performance issues will lie imho
[15:04] <vfw> MikeGuy_: Read the man file for apt-cache  and notice the parts about policy
[15:05] <MikeGuy_> ok, thanks vfw
[15:05] <vfw> MikeGuy_: apt-cache policy gnome-terminal  #Gives information about the package gnome-terminal
[15:07] <vfw> MikeGuy_: apt-cache search xsane  #Finds the keyword xsane  and gives package names.
[15:07] <boxrick1> Good afternoon
[15:08] <vfw> MikeGuy_: Spend some time reading man apt-get
[15:08] <boxrick1> I am attempting to create a .deb file from a file which  installs fine from make and make install ( cobbler ).  I am getting this error though, would anyone steer me in the right direction?
[15:08] <boxrick1> http://pastebin.com/ffxWvhRb
[15:09] <MikeGuy_> I will. I'm gonna learn some more so I understand how to troubleshoot ubuntu. Linux is an entirely different animal than Windows is
[15:09] <MikeGuy_> I appreciate all of your assistance, vfw. You as well, OerHeks
[15:10] <KingOfOOP> Hi , can someone help me with my problem ?
[15:10] <vfw> boxrick1: Use full path?
[15:10] <vfw> KingOfOOP: Maybe.  (If we know what it is.)
[15:11] <Southern_Gentlem> MikeGuy_, i am a windows admin, but i have been using linux since the late 90s and i am trying to understand ubuntu at this point
[15:11] <MikeGuy_> Southern_Gentlem, how's it going along?
[15:12] <Southern_Gentlem> MikeGuy_,  well i have found out i hate unity and i have installed mate in ubuntu ( ihave a vm here at work and i put ubuntu on a laptop at home
[15:13] <KingOfOOP> vfw: apt-get update gives the NODATA (does the network requires authentication ?) error
[15:14] <vfw> KingOfOOP: Is that the exact error?
[15:14] <Mamiko>  KingOfOOP do you use proxy or something?
[15:14] <Southern_Gentlem> MikeGuy and if you think about windows and linux they do have something that are simulair  both have kernels , they both have configurations (etc in linux, reg in win) etc..
[15:16] <KingOfOOP> Mamiko: No
[15:16] <MikeGuy_> oh, there's one more issue I have that I couldn't seem to find on google
[15:16] <vfw> KingOfOOP: What kind of network are you on?  (ISP...)
[15:16] <MikeGuy_> the volume widget on the panel doesn't reflect the actual volume ever
[15:17] <KingOfOOP> vfw, Code and error is : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23207461/
[15:17] <MikeGuy_> I'm dualbooting with chromeOS using crouton, and on the ChromeOS screen it's working just find. The ubuntu icon does not
[15:17] <KingOfOOP> vfw: ADSL
[15:18] <KingOfOOP> vfw, It is't relative to the speed anyway...
[15:19] <adamc> KingOfOOP: it is if your MTU on your DSL isn't set correctly :)
[15:20] <vfw> KingOfOOP: I think you have a bogus entry in sources.list
[15:20] <vfw> KingOfOOP: http://askubuntu.com/questions/381377/apt-get-update-through-tor
[15:20] <KingOfOOP> vfw: How to locate it then ?
[15:21] <KingOfOOP> I mean can the line be identified ?
[15:21] <de-facto> hmm Guys, is it possible to run Xenial on an old white Powerbook G4? (was asked by a friend, i dont have a clue about mac)
[15:21] <vfw> KingOfOOP: What version of Ubuntu do you have?
[15:21] <vfw> KingOfOOP: lsb_release -v
[15:21] <de-facto> are those just the powerpc iso downloads?
[15:21] <KingOfOOP> vfw: 14.04 LTS
[15:21] <vfw> KingOfOOP: lsb_release -r
[15:21] <Mamiko> http://askubuntu.com/questions/410519/cannot-install-anything-via-apt-get-problem-with-apt-get-update may it help you
[15:22] <vfw> KingOfOOP: Read http://askubuntu.com/questions/381377/apt-get-update-through-tor
[15:25] <dbear> I have ubuntu 16.04 LTS deskop and have installed google chrome. However google chrome refused to make a sound. I have following a number of leads most related to ubuntu 15 and older versions of chrome. Still can't get audio out of chrome. Audio works fine from firefox, chromium, opera, etc.. just fails for google chrome. Any pointers?
[15:25] <vfw> dbear: On what type of file?
[15:26] <dbear> vfw: any thing from youtube -- streaming media
[15:26] <rodney77> Hello, I am having choppy performance and high CPU issues which I absolutely cannot solve. I tried to run 16.04 but had to downgrade to 14.0.0 to get reasonably good performance. Flash videos are choppy and send the fans spinning, and even an animated gif will freeze the page when scrolling. Can someone help?