[05:13] <xrdodrx> nertil, not really :) when you need help with ubuntu and you're banned from this channel, you'll be the mad one
[05:13] <MK`> Is there a GUI for shred? :)
[05:13] <nertil> well if they ban me im sure ill join with another host/nick
[05:13] <NictraSavios> Jordan_U: Thanks, i learned something, since i use a 2TB backup HD i never had to do that, ill remember it for next time :D
[05:13] <Jordan_U> NictraSavios: You're welcome.
[05:13] <redbox> MK`: shred --help # it is really straightforward, I believe.
[05:14] <MK`> alright
[05:14] <Seppman> i don't have any /media here, no X, no automounter, and so on. i know what i am doing, and all i need is the options for "cdrecord". i am here with weechart, a program i am not familiar with, and i don't see all the text (because i havent the filter in weechat enabled)"
[05:14] <rww> nertil: ban-evasion is a violation of freenode network policy. I don't recommend it.
[05:14] <redbox> MK`: Also, "man shred" for complete manual.
[05:14] <MK`> When I view file properties, it shows MB as 1024 KB, etc. How do I get it to use them as 1000 KB?
[05:14] <Binary_Wolf> redbox: thanks!
[05:14] <smilidon> Hey I just installed 10.10 the alternate install cd for powerpc on an iMac G3 but after the boot screen there is no video I have scoured the forums but nothing seems to work any ideas?
[05:15] <Cannibal> If I my Ubuntu-XP wireless home network doesn't work. Is my Samba smb.conf file the problem?
[05:15] <gaelfx> smilidon: I didn't think PPC was supported in ubuntu any more?
[05:15] <rww> gaelfx: there's a community-supported port of it still
[05:15] <smilidon> Yep it is I found it
[05:15] <NictraSavios> There we go, all registered up.
[05:15] <smilidon> I am a ppc noob
[05:15] <gaelfx> rww: good to know
[05:16] <NictraSavios> Hmm, well i must be off :D
[05:16] <gaelfx> !ppc > smilidon
[05:16] <ian_> i configured my network incorrectly on boot, could somebody tell me what commands to put in the ubuntu server terminal to reconfigure it?
[05:16] <gaelfx> smilidon: did you read that already?
[05:16] <PerfM> Wooooo! Thanks for nawt helping meee!
[05:16] <Seppman> my mount_msdos is broken too, if it wored i would have put(ed) on /fat
[05:17] <Camarata-> is it pronounced, Uh-bun-too or Yoo-boon-too
[05:17] <Seppman> cdrecord is my last chance to backup /home, /root, and /etc
[05:17] <smilidon> Yes I had tried those suggestions
[05:17] <gaelfx> Camarata-: I always thought it was oooooh-boon-too
[05:17] <rww> Camarata-: oo-BOON-too
[05:17] <Camarata-> oooh not yooo?
[05:17] <rww> Camarata-: correct
[05:18] <xrdodrx> Camarata-, it's pronounced however it's easiest for you :) I personally say oo-bun-two
[05:18] <Camarata-> ruins my slogan i wanted to put on a little Ubuntu for beginners page :(... "When you know, Ubuntu" thinking it rhymed (at beginning of word) with "You"
[05:18]  * cyix prefers Linux
[05:18] <BlueBomber7> \me prefers GNU/Linux
[05:18] <AbhijiT> hi
[05:18] <gaelfx> smilidon: can you start in terminal mode?
[05:18] <AbhijiT> how to get two awn instances?
[05:18] <AbhijiT> one for bottoma and one for left ???
[05:19] <AbhijiT> help
[05:19] <Seppman> no one? ok, i'll try at #fedora
[05:19] <Camarata-> gaelfx: from GRUB you can choose recovery, and then choose bottom opption for terminal
[05:19] <gaelfx> !enter > AbhijiT
[05:19] <smilidon> Well anyone have a preferred iMac G3 era PPC install that works out of the box
[05:19] <markoso> ok i tried the article to get iphone working im using gtkpod and it still says unable to write to ipod db wtf i guess i need to dual boot with windows ahhhh
[05:19] <gaelfx> Camarata-: haha, I wasn't asking how to do it, I was asking if smilidon can do it or not
[05:19] <rww> Seppman: umm. You should be using the support channel that corresponds to the distribution you're using. If that... meh.
[05:20] <markoso> anyone use ubuntu any able to put music on there ipod sheesh
[05:20] <gaelfx> I love when that happens
[05:20] <markoso> it transfers the files but the ipod does not see it
[05:20] <gaelfx> markoso: did you try exaile?
[05:20] <Camarata-> :D
[05:20] <markoso> exaile whats dat
[05:21] <markoso> <--getting frustrated with linux
[05:21] <gaelfx> markoso: it's a different program for playing/managing your music. I assume you're using rhythmbox now?
[05:21] <markoso> rythombox gtkpod amorok tried so far
[05:21] <AbhijiT> how to get two awn instances?
[05:21] <Camarata> markoso: Rythmbox put music on my friends iPod straight after a fresh install of 10.10 last week
[05:22] <gaelfx> markoso: does your ipod have any special software on it, or is it just the normal s/w that comes with it?
[05:22] <Camarata> I converted him to Linux after he had sound driver issues etc, he's been able to sync, etc since
[05:22] <markoso> it puts the  music on the ipod but i pod dont see it
[05:22] <harasho> hey i keep getting an error when trying to update ubuntu 7 to 10. is there anyway to do it manually?
[05:22] <markoso> its a iphone 3gs
[05:23] <Camarata> harasho: i'm not sure on manual updating I would have to check but you could make a partition, put teh files on it for backup and fresh install 10.10?
[05:23] <markoso> ubuntu reconized it and rythombox see it and puts music initunes direcotry
[05:23] <Binary_Wolf> no!!!
[05:23] <Binary_Wolf> dont do it!
[05:23] <Binary_Wolf> dont sync iphone ipod with rhytmbox
[05:24] <Binary_Wolf> cause it will mess up some metadata of your songs
[05:24] <harasho> camarata: the only thing is that i dont want to fresh install 10.10. i was really hoping to upgrade. i bought a book that came with a custom 7 so i was hoping to keep its features
[05:24] <gaelfx> nice pyramid of response you built there, Binary_Wolf
[05:24] <Binary_Wolf> gaelfx: and?
[05:24] <Camarata> harasho: which special features?
[05:25] <gaelfx> nothing, was just commenting on the aesthetics
[05:25] <markoso> ill try  exaile last chance and its back to windows where stuff works most the time  (dual boot) ugh
[05:25] <harasho> camarata: unfortunately i do not know all of them. its server stuff and source code. all the code used in the book is on the os
[05:25] <gaelfx> markoso: I think you can install itunes in wine
[05:25] <Binary_Wolf> i am sorry, i will use proper english and grammar from now if it is what you meant :)
[05:25] <markoso> what with 50 terminal windows and 2 hrs
[05:25] <Camarata> gaelfx: iTunes via Wine does work
[05:25] <Binary_Wolf> doesnt work
[05:26] <gaelfx> Binary_Wolf: haha, no, no, I was merely commenting, no judgment
[05:26] <Binary_Wolf> oh wait
[05:26] <markoso> sorry im just pissed a bit
[05:26] <Binary_Wolf> no
[05:26] <Binary_Wolf> maybe it does work,it was just wine that was glitching
[05:26] <gaelfx> markoso: that's pretty normal around here
[05:26] <Binary_Wolf> i need to try it again
[05:26] <Nick_Osborne> Evenin' all.
[05:26] <Binary_Wolf> but i doubt it will sync you idevice
[05:27] <Nick_Osborne> So, I have a question.
[05:27] <Binary_Wolf> good evening Nick_Osborne
[05:27] <gaelfx> markoso: I would suggest that if you want things to work the way you expect them to, give the itunes for windows a try using wine
[05:27] <markoso> after many years you think linux would be ready for people not just geeks
[05:27] <Nick_Osborne> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 on an older laptop, and it's not doing anything.
[05:27] <markoso> if  exaile  i might try wine
[05:27] <Camarata> Nick_Osborne: you boot the the CD and do you get to the screen for Try vs Install?
[05:28] <Binary_Wolf> um it is not linux fault there is no itunes version for it
[05:28] <markoso> do i just dl itunes from the site and wine will see it or is it some long drawn out process
[05:28] <Nick_Osborne> I didn't get any screen.
[05:28] <markoso> i dont care for itunes i just want shit to work
[05:28] <Nick_Osborne> It went straight into loading... then nothing.
[05:28] <Camarata> markoso: drivers and proprietary software not existing is not a "problem with Linux" it's the lack of market share and other company interests to be had in Mac or Windows
[05:29] <markoso> ugh
[05:29] <gaelfx> markoso: understandable markoso, but as with changing anything, there's a bit of a learning curve involved
[05:29] <Camarata> Nick_Osborne: if you didn't even get a screen/GUI to install I would suggest trying to burn another disc..maybe at a lower speed
[05:30] <Camarata> markoso: i had one issue with drivers since i used DisplayLink adapters, other than that Empathy, XChat, etc all worked out of the box... apt-get install via Software Center repos is actually easier and faster for installing software
[05:30] <kj6lxu> im trying to install cutecw (qt based morse code training program) but when i run it all i get is  "     undefined symbol: _ZN9QListData11detach_growEPii     "
[05:30] <Camarata> and even a novice can make a bash script to apt get his facorite software to repeat on other clients etc etc, some things are easier in linux and many equivalent softwares exist
[05:30] <ichbinsnicht> hello...is there a way to tell ubuntu to send dns requests to a different port than 53?
[05:30] <markoso> everything was fin untill i buy a iphone
[05:31] <gaelfx> markoso: I think you'll find that installing wine will help, especially if there are other apps you expect to use from before
[05:31] <redbox> Camarata: ssh?
[05:31] <markoso> i have wine
[05:31] <Camarata> markoso: should have got a Droid ;), but Apple has interests in making stuff work only on their ecosystem
[05:31] <vivk> has any one tried developing in android from ubuntu ?
[05:31] <Nick_Osborne> this is what I'm getting. It goes to the purple screen. I alt-tab and I get an error chroot: can't execute 'mktemp' : input/output error
[05:31] <gaelfx> lol, that's gotta be a great quote, "EVerything was fine til I bought an iPhone"
[05:31] <Camarata> Nick_Osborne: is this first or second disk?
[05:31] <markoso> droid was more money
[05:31] <Nick_Osborne> first.
[05:31] <Nick_Osborne> Only disk, mind you.
[05:32] <kj6lxu> im trying to install cutecw (qt based morse code training program) but when i run it all i get is  "     undefined symbol: _ZN9QListData11detach_growEPii     " help! ????
[05:32] <markoso> can i get itunes with play on linux?
[05:32] <Camarata> Nick_Osborne, if there are no known issues with your cd drive i would suggest another disk, you could unplug power and hold the power button for 10 seconds to reset pram or what not and try it again
[05:33] <Binary_Wolf> i think it is faster to install apps via apt-get rather than via software center (it is kinda laggy )
[05:33] <Camarata> that fixes some hardware bugs sometimes, but otherwise i would assume bad disk?
[05:33] <Nick_Osborne> I've never had any problems with the drive before, and it's a brand new disk.
[05:33] <Camarata> markoso: i have done iTunes (Windows ver) via WINE before, but Binary_Wolf suggests it may be buggy?
[05:34] <ichbinsnicht> is there a way to tell ubuntu to send dns requests to a different port than 53?
[05:34] <Camarata> Nick_Osborne: i burned 3 disks of Ubuntu 10.10 in last week or so for myself and others, one of the 3 was bad... i bought cheap disks and used a Windows ISO burner since the lapto pcame with Windows on it
[05:34] <markoso> ok  exaile did not work, i will burn a win 7 disc tommorro and get itunes
[05:34] <Binary_Wolf> Camarata: so as feedback on WINE site says
[05:34] <Camarata> Nick_Osborne: so it happens
[05:34] <Binary_Wolf> according to new itunes
[05:34] <Nick_Osborne> Windows has an ISO burner? I used a Third party burner.
[05:35] <Camarata> Nick_Osborne: I *think* as of Vista it comes built in
[05:35] <Nick_Osborne> I'm still running XP SP3
[05:35] <Nick_Osborne> I tried running it from USB... it did nothing.
[05:36] <Binary_Wolf> i use windows only for itunes lol
[05:36] <TinyTom> Why does it ask me for a time zone then only list Chicago
[05:36] <Binary_Wolf> everything i need is on linux
[05:36] <gaelfx> TinyTom: click on the map
[05:36] <Camarata> TinyTom: click the map directly
[05:36] <TinyTom> I'm in the text installer
[05:36] <TinyTom> This might not be the newest version
[05:37] <Bogus8> I have a buddy that I set up on 10.4 server... every now and then (seemingly randomly) his network will stop working... all he has to do is hit a key on the local machine and poof it's back up and running.  I suggested getting one of those perpetual motion birds like Homer did but he would rather fix it. ;)  Anyone ever seen this?
[05:37] <TinyTom> Eitherway I'm beyond that point, I've installed this thing like a hundred times
[05:37] <TinyTom> It always says Chicago
[05:37] <TinyTom> Which isn't a time zone
[05:37] <Bogus8> It almost seems like it's going to "sleep" but it's a fairly stock server install and it's so random
[05:37] <Bogus8> we've also changed NICs out
[05:38] <FluxD> Is there a way to turn off libnotify for certain apps? And is there a way to turn off libnotify completely?
[05:38] <Reallycool> sometimes when I wake up from suspend the touchpad's physical button only partially works
[05:39] <Nick_Osborne> I'm trying to re-install from USB.
[05:39] <ichbinsnicht> or can someone tell me what the error iptables: No chain/target/match by that name. means?
[05:39] <Nick_Osborne> See if it does the same thing as the CD did.
[05:39] <redbox> FluxD: You could remove libnotify or rename the libnotify binary to something else (ie libnotify-off)
[05:40] <FluxD> redbox, no other "right way"  to turn it on and odd?
[05:40] <Bogus8> Reallycool: was that directed at me?
[05:40] <Assid> how do i set x-chat to use nick: instead of nick, ?
[05:40] <soreau> ichbinsnicht: Where do you see that message?
[05:40] <Bogus8> Assid: been a long time but did you look at the preferences?
[05:40] <karla> FluxD, I don't think libnotify is as much a problem for you as is the notification daemon
[05:40] <ardchoille> Assid: Server > Preferences > Nick completion suffix
[05:41] <FluxD> karla, yea I think it was renamed or something
[05:41] <redbox> FluxD: It is serving its purpose -- To notify you.
[05:41] <karla> FluxD, well there's a bunch of them
[05:41] <ardchoille> Assid: Server > Preferences > Input box > Nick completion suffix
[05:41] <FluxD> I want to turn it off for certain apps
[05:41] <Reallycool> Bogus8 no
[05:41] <ichbinsnicht> soreau: im trying to redirect dns request to the tor dnslistener using this iptables rule: iptables -t nat -D OUTPUT -d remote_dns_ip -p udp --dport 53 -j DNAT --to remote_dns_ip:5353
[05:41] <redbox> FluxD: Look in certain apps's preferences. Some of them do have options.
[05:41] <Bogus8> Reallycool: my bad
[05:42] <Assid> ardchoille,  i dont see input box..
[05:42] <karla> FluxD, otherwise you're most likely stuck with it, no notifications or all notifications :/
[05:42] <ichbinsnicht> soreau: is there anything wrong with this rule
[05:42] <ichbinsnicht> ?
[05:42] <MK`> When I view file properties, it shows MB as 1024 KB, etc. How do I get it to use them as 1000 KB? (my buffer is gone, if it was answered I missed it)
[05:42] <Reallycool> was directed at anyone who might have an idea how this could be fixed
[05:42] <FluxD> How do you do no notifications?
[05:42] <ardchoille> Assid: It's under Interface in the prefs ui
[05:42] <Bogus8> Reallycool: gotcha... I too have an odd problem... good luck.
[05:42] <Reallycool> thanks
[05:43] <soreau> ichbinsnicht: I think you need to change the command to suit your needs. Where it says remote_dns_ip, you need to change this and OUTPUT to real values
[05:43] <Assid> wait your talking about x-chat for gnome right
[05:43] <Assid> ardchoille,  wait your talking about x-chat for gnome right
[05:43] <ichbinsnicht> soreau: i sure did that...but i don't wanted to expose the ip adresses here ;)
[05:43] <gaelfx> MK: why do you want it to do that?
[05:43] <AntiLiberal> IP address scardy cats
[05:43] <ardchoille> Assid: I'm talking about xchat, not xchat-gnome
[05:44] <MK`> so I can keep track
[05:44] <ardchoille> Assid: there are two apps for xchat in ubuntu, xchat is the better one
[05:44] <soreau> ichbinsnicht: other than that, not sure. Maybe try ##networking
[05:44] <gaelfx> MK`: you do know that 1MB=1024KB, right?
[05:44] <MK`> I mean a MB MB, not a MiB MB
[05:44] <stefwal> hello
[05:44] <Camarata> Anyone know any XORG tricks and such?  I have Laptop + 2 DisplayLink Monitors (usb to dvi)... I can get the 2 monitors working OR the laptop screen but not both.  Drivers are install (obviously) but I just cant get xorg.conf right or something... i want all my monitors if anyone can help :D
[05:45] <gaelfx> MK`: ok, now I'm even more confused
[05:45] <ardchoille> MK`: 1024kb = 1MB. 1000kb is not quite a megabyte
[05:45] <ichbinsnicht> soreau: do you think that this is the solution to redirect dns requests to a different port than 53 or shall i look for another solution?
[05:46] <MK`> I'm referring to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnitsPolicy
[05:46] <ichbinsnicht> soreau: i mean send....not redirect
[05:47] <soreau> ichbinsnicht: It might be right but you probably should use the newly respected command: ip
[05:47] <filip_> can somebody tell me what preference to change so that i don't have to enter a password every time i install a program or make an admin change?
[05:47] <ichbinsnicht> soreau: what command?
[05:48] <Camarata> filip_: login as root
[05:48] <Nick_Osborne> Well, it started to work, but the last command line was Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... done.
[05:48] <soreau> ichbinsnicht: ip
[05:48] <karla> filip_, look under /usr/share/policykit-1
[05:48] <ichbinsnicht> soreau: i dont understand
[05:48] <Tiktalik> Don't worry
[05:49] <Tiktalik> I do not need help
[05:49] <Nick_Osborne> hasn't moved for about 5 minutes.
[05:49] <ichbinsnicht> soreau: what do you mean?
[05:49] <filip_> can i just give myself (a user) all admin privileges?
[05:49] <karla> filip_, or polkit-1, whatever
[05:49] <soreau> ichbinsnicht: There is a command called ip that can do what you want. See the manual with this command: man ip
[05:49] <MK`> so I am referring to Nautilus
[05:49] <MK`> is there a way for me to change the setting in it?
[05:50] <ytt3r> Can I get a little help guys? I've installed Ubuntu twice on my new hardware, and both times it says "Read Error" before it gets to anything ubuntu.
[05:50] <gaelfx> MK`: did you try 'nautilus --help' or 'man nautilus'?
[05:51] <ichbinsnicht> soreau: ok...do you maybe know a site where this is explained with examples?
[05:51] <MK`> I am not on ubuntu now, I was just curious if it was something you guys knew offhand
[05:51] <Nick_Osborne> I'm having that, too
[05:51] <filip_> ok, after polkit-1, what then?
[05:52] <MK`> Mac OS X v10.6 started showing them the decimal way, I was surprised Ubuntu didn't heh
[05:52] <gaelfx> MK`: definitely don't know it offhand, but from what I've seen in the --help, it doesn't look like there's an option to change it
[05:52] <filip_> which file in the actions folder contains what i need to change?
[05:52] <MK`> hm
[05:53] <gaelfx> MK`: there might be a conf file somewhere you can edit to get it working, but it's probably buried pretty deep
[05:53] <soreau> ichbinsnicht: http://linux.die.net/man/8/ip
[05:53] <gaelfx> MK`: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/369525
[05:54] <lwizardl> hi
[05:54] <lwizardl> I used k3b to burn a disc and now it can not be mounted, when i check open the disc in k3b the files show up. and when i try to add a new file to the session and tell it to finish the session it fails
[05:55] <stefwal> where can you ask to review an ubuntu webpage when there are probably mistakes inside?
[05:55] <lwizardl> how can i force mount the disc to backup the files to the computer again
[05:56] <MK`> hm
[05:57] <Jordan_U> lwizardl: What error do you get when you try to mount it?
[05:57] <ichbinsnicht> soreau: this is the manual...but i would need an example to understand how this works
[05:57] <filip_> ok i figured it out, thank you for the help
[05:57] <lwizardl> Jordan_U, when i put in the disc it spins up and nothing shows up
[05:58] <lwizardl> Jordan_U, when i open k3b it shows a session on the disc
[05:58] <lwizardl> 3.6GB dvd disc
[05:58] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[05:58] <ShapeShifter499> is there some kind of plug in or whatnot that would allow me to upload documents to google docs from my ubuntu system?
[05:58] <soreau> ichbinsnicht: ask in ##networking and explain your setup and what you want to do
[05:58] <eoss> hello, i recently installed nexuiz and i cant see other player models theyre invisible and the game is very laggy
[05:58] <eoss> i had win7 installed and nexuiz ran smoother than smooth
[05:58] <Nick_Osborne> Well, I don't think 10.10 likes my older laptop. It froze up on me multiple times.
[05:58] <Jordan_U> lwizardl: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo mount /dev/sr0 /mnt/"?
[05:59] <ichbinsnicht> soreau: ok, thx
[05:59] <Jordan_U> eoss: What graphics card do you have?
[05:59] <gaelfx> MK`: http://gaffitter.sourceforge.net/ that's the best I can find for what you want, I guess
[05:59] <eoss> Jordan_U, Radeon HD 4870
[05:59] <stefwal> is falling asleep
[05:59] <MK`> ah
[05:59] <eoss> i have the proprietary thing installed in the additional drivers section too
[06:00] <soreau> eoss: You will want latest kernel and userspace for open radeon driver or you can try installing the proprietary fglrx driver (sys>admin>additional drivers)
[06:00] <karla> eoss, what's the output of fglrxinfo ?
[06:00] <eoss> soreau, i did that and it worked in aditional drivers
[06:00] <lwizardl> http://pastebin.com/eaedtR0h
[06:01] <eoss> isplay: :0.0  screen: 0
[06:01] <eoss> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[06:01] <eoss> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
[06:01] <eoss> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (3.3.10237 Compatibility Profile Context)
[06:01] <FloodBot3> eoss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:01] <pw-toxic_> hi,  may I shutdown my computer although a raid is just beeing resynced?
[06:01] <Jordan_U> lwizardl: OK. If you run "ls /mnt/" do you see the list of files on the disk?
[06:02] <gaelfx> MK`: but it looks like it's mainly for external media
[06:02] <lwizardl> yes
[06:02] <gh0st> k there's a wireless switch on my laptop and it was off when I boot into ubuntu, when I turn it back on it it still shows up as "wireless disabled" I ran sudo ifconfig wlan0 up but nothing
[06:02] <MK`> yeah :/
[06:02] <soreau> eoss: If you remove fglrx and install xorg-edgers and mesa-experimental package, you can test gallium. Better to have a latest kernel too though (2.6.38 or later)
[06:02] <MK`> At least the other system programs like the partitioner show it in decimal
[06:02] <Jordan_U> lwizardl: Then you're done, it's mounted. Do you need help accessing /mnt/ from the GUI file manager?
[06:03] <eoss> soreau, ok
[06:03] <soreau> eoss: Also for open drivers you might need texture compression library. More help with the  open driver in $radeon
[06:03] <soreau> #radeon*
[06:03] <Psycho_Dad> Hey everyone! Using Ubuntu 10.10 and my wireless connection disconnects always after I initiate a download or something. I'm using a wireless dongle to connect to my local AP using WPA2. encryption. The same setup works with Debian 6. Tho' I'm all for Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[06:03] <lwizardl> how come this disc didn't mount and have it load the folder popup like all the rest
[06:03] <lwizardl> and have a desktop icon
[06:05] <ferreirathiago_> Psycho_Dad, use other wifi module
[06:05] <sangha> wicd
[06:05] <Psycho_Dad> I'v tried wicd. Same thing happens.
[06:05] <gaelfx> MK`: it is really strange that there isn't a simple way to change it
[06:05] <monty> so I see BitchX is no longer the standard irc client in ubuntu
[06:06] <monty> what client am I using? I ran the irc command
[06:06] <sangha> partially because "sudo apt-get install bitchx" doesn't do any good
[06:06] <Psycho_Dad> ferreirathiago_: By other wifi-module you mean another dongle? :)
[06:06] <FishFace> monty, Xchat most likely
[06:06] <soreau> monty: probably pidgin
[06:06] <monty> im in terminal
[06:06] <MK`> yeah I am surprised
[06:06] <FishFace> monty, Ooooo. Dunno
[06:07] <Flannel> sangha, monty: BitchX was unsupported, and was dropped from the repos.  irssi is the preferred terminal IRC client by most.
[06:07] <gh0st> there's a wireless switch on my laptop and it was off when I boot into ubuntu, when I turn it back on it it still shows up as "wireless disabled" I ran sudo ifconfig wlan0 up but nothing
[06:07] <sangha> ahh alright thanks
[06:08] <ferreirathiago_> Psycho_Dad, dongle is hardlock, or no?
[06:09] <monty> I ran /ctcp monty version and it reported back ircII
[06:09] <Psycho_Dad> ferreirathiago_: I don't know what a hardlock is. It's a USB wireless adapter, TP-LINK WN322G (v2). It's supposed to be supported. And it works, but dies shortly after I download, upload, etc.
[06:10] <ferreirathiago_> ok
[06:10] <Psycho_Dad> Furthermore, when it dies I have to restart my router to be able to reconnect.
[06:10] <CharlyCoder> Ubuntu newbie question: Can Ubuntu 10.10 be fully installed on a PC *without* an Internet connection?
[06:11] <Jordan_U> CharlyCoder: Yes.
[06:11] <rww> CharlyCoder: Yes. The install CD contains all packages needed for a standard installation.
[06:11] <rww> (or in the case of the LiveCD, the whole casper image)
[06:11] <Psycho_Dad> I've tried using wicd, same thing happens. After that I remove network manager and wicd, kept wpasupplicant and setup my interface in /etc/network/interfaces, was able to connect and... the same thing happened this way too. :/
[06:12] <ferreirathiago_> Psycho_Dad, Do you have tried restart network-manager?
[06:12] <leapy0yo> hi
[06:12] <ferreirathiago_> Psycho_Dad, for reconnect? no restart router
[06:12] <CharlyCoder> rww: So even though the installer has put a "X" next to this computer is connected to the internet, it will still install correctly?
[06:12] <leapy0yo> once i stop a running process with control z , how do i start the process without fg   nad start it in background
[06:12] <rww> CharlyCoder: yes
[06:12] <rww> leapy0yo: bg
[06:13] <CharlyCoder> rww: Fantastic. Thanks very much.
[06:13] <Psycho_Dad> ferreirathiago_: I've restarted the network-manager of course. And I *really* had to restart my router to be able to reconnect. Nothing helped even rebooting my machine.
[06:13] <raido> leapy0yo: you cant do that, you want "screen" for that kind of stuff
[06:14] <ferreirathiago_> tried modify wifi security for WEP?
[06:14] <ferreirathiago_> *route
[06:14] <genestew> exit
[06:15] <Psycho_Dad> Nope. But I really don't want to. Because this same adapter, with the same router works just fine with Debian (although as I said, I really want to use Ubuntu).
[06:15] <peng_> ...
[06:16] <Psycho_Dad> What can be the difference in wireless communication in Debian and Ubuntu?
[06:16] <pksadiq> I see almost a 1500 users in this channel, almost 99% keeping mum , and so really who are those people? or are they really people?and too why they are here if keeping mum?
[06:17] <rww> pksadiq: ask #ubuntu-offtopic :P
[06:17] <raido> Psycho_Dad: I would check to see what driver Debian is using, Ubuntu may use a different driver and that could be the issue
[06:18] <pksadiq> rww: there too the same, I'm afraid, ;) logging in and sleeping
[06:18] <raido> Psycho_Dad: Chech the version numbers if they are the same driver.
[06:18] <msl> pksadiq, We are doing other things :)
[06:19] <pksadiq> msl: happy if you say what you do ;) ?
[06:20] <Psycho_Dad> raido: They are using the same driver zd1211rw. I'm not sure about the version numbers tho'.
[06:20] <lulzay> hello friends
[06:22] <msl> pksadiq, I personally am learning more about sed and awk.  Really good docs at www.funtoo.org.
[06:22] <raido> Psycho_Dad: you could attempt to install the driver from the Devian repo to the Ubuntu install. See if that works
[06:22] <lulzay> i tried to install ubuntu 10.10 and 10.04 beside windows 7 and have failed both times. I installed a fresh 500gb hd just for ubuntu to use. it seems to format and go through install, but after reboot, it just boots into windows.
[06:23] <pksadiq> msl: may I private message you? I don't need to flood here
[06:23] <Psycho_Dad> raido: Hmm, under debian I've checked in synaptic that I have zd1211rw-firmware package. In the Ubuntu package search webpage (as I'm under Debian currently) I couldn't find this package.
[06:24] <raido> It might be wotht a try to grab that debian .deb and install it in ubuntu.
[06:24] <Psycho_Dad> raido: Yeah I think so. :) I hope it'll turn out right.
[06:25] <raido> Psycho_Dad: good luck and you may need to blacklist whatever driver Ubuntu currently loads, or uninstall it.
[06:26] <Psycho_Dad> raido: It loads this driver (zd1211rw), I'm sure about this. I just don't know if it installs this firmware.
[06:26] <Psycho_Dad> The Debian installer doesn't contain this firmware, I had to load it from a USB during install, but the Ubuntu installer didn't ask for it. It is a non-free firmware.
[06:27] <raido> Psycho_Dad: see here for the Dibian repo for that http://wiki.debian.org/zd1211rw
[06:28] <Cannibal> Hi. Why will ubuntu not show up in my XP network Workgroup folder?
[06:29] <soreau> ! samba | Cannibal
[06:29] <Cannibal> I've done everything I can find to set up samba with no success.
[06:30] <Psycho_Dad> radio: Thanks raido I'll try and install this Debian firmware in Ubuntu. I hope it'll help.
[06:30] <raido> Psycho_Dad: np, let us know
[06:31] <Psycho_Dad> K, bye!
[06:31] <LordNLptp> after a crash while running dselect as root, whenever i try to update in dselect i get an error "the access method is already locked"
[06:31] <LordNLptp> clearly theres a lockfile somewhere i need to remove, but where?
[06:32] <LordNLptp> "the access method area is already locked"
[06:32] <LordNLptp> that's the error
[06:36] <Guest70869> test
[06:38] <ericy> Guest70869: test.
[06:38] <raido> tset
[06:38] <Matt_> Question for the gurus.  I have just started using Ubuntu on a laptop, and when it is on battery power it will not use the WiFi, on AC adaptor it will work on Wifi fine
[06:38] <pksadiq> !test
[06:39] <Binary_Wolf> !test
[06:39] <Matt_> I know this must be a setting somewhere... any Ideas?
[06:39] <Diamondcite> Matt_: Before checking for settings.
[06:39] <Diamondcite> Could you please make sure the wifi adapter is still detected when on battery power?
[06:39] <SpYker> test
[06:39] <Diamondcite> Matt_: As such.. please do lspci and lsusb twice, once with AC and once without.
[06:40] <Matt_> I am currently on that laptop... so If I unplug I will drop cvonnectivity
[06:40] <adam__> hello!
[06:40] <Diamondcite> Err that can be troublesome.. no wired connection useable?
[06:40] <Matt_> do what?  I am completely new to Linux so I have no clue what you mean
[06:40] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[06:40] <SpYker> is this the back|track forum, or all ubuntu?
[06:41] <rww> SpYker: Just Ubuntu and official derivatives. Backtrack discussion is in #backtrack-linux.
[06:41] <SpYker> thanks rww
[06:43] <ericy> Matt_: I vaguely remember some sort of battery power level (when low by a certain user settable percent), that would turn off WIFI. But this may be in my Debian based Nokia N900 cellphone.)
[06:43] <vimholic> hi
[06:45] <gaelfx> MK`: this is starting to freak me out, even google does it wrong
[06:45] <Guest7491> hi
[06:45] <Guest7491> how to register ?
[06:45] <gaelfx> MK`: they report the same size for gigabytes and gibibytes
[06:45] <rww> ubottu: tell Guest7491 about register
[06:46] <sy_> :)
[06:46] <sy_> hi
[06:46] <MK`> [01:45:16] <gaelfx> MK`: this is starting to freak me out, even google does it wrong
[06:46] <sy_> rww, is my hero
[06:46] <adam__> what would be the best channel to ask questions about trying to compile/install a program?
[06:47] <MK`> that google thing is a bit of a bug
[06:47] <MK`> like it even reports data transfer rates in binary
[06:47] <MK`> even though no one *ever* used binary for data transfer rates
[06:47] <gaelfx> I've lost all faith in the world :(
[06:47] <Cannibal> What is a sharename?
[06:47] <sy_> gaelfx, Don't.
[06:48] <Cannibal> God damnit. I quit linux.
[06:48] <rlankfo> lulz
[06:49] <gaelfx> hilarious: google "1 gibibyte in bytes", the calculator's answer directly contradicts the very first result
[06:49] <rww> !ot
[06:49] <adam__> can someone help me with a program i'm trying to install in the terminal?
[06:50] <gaelfx> rww: sorry, got a little sidetracked
[06:50] <pksadiq> adam__: ask the doubt, someone will help you.
[06:51] <pancom> hello!
[06:51] <sy_> o_o
[06:51] <gaelfx> but to bring it back on topic, nautilus doesn't actually display the size of things correctly
[06:52] <sxndave> gaelfx: the MiB MB thing?
[06:52] <pancom> why does it say couldn't get hostname when i connect?
[06:52] <gaelfx> sxndave: yeah, that'd be it
[06:52] <rww> pancom: /join #freenode and ask them.
[06:53] <sxndave> gaelfx: pita if you ask me, needs to be an option for the user to select imo
[06:53] <raido> pancom: because your machine has no DNS entry
[06:54] <sxndave> gaelfx: I guess its been requested a thousand times already, but just in case. Do you know where nautilus development is hosted?
[06:54] <gaelfx> sxndave: that's exactly what I've been thinking, but I mean it really is displaying things wrong
[06:55] <MK`> funny:
[06:55] <gaelfx> sxndave: it reports<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes as 9.2GB, which is rather blatently incorrect
[06:55] <MK`> google 1 gigabyte in gibibytes
[06:55] <MK`> or vice versa
[06:55] <gaelfx> sxndave: nope
[06:56] <ytt3r> Hey guys, I've been having the same problems as these guy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1479416
[06:56] <rww> Can we move the Google-fu to #ubuntu-offtopic, please? Mountain View's inability to use words right isn't an Ubuntu support question ;P
[06:56] <ytt3r> not really sure how to fix whatever's going on...
[06:56] <raido> sxndave: http://live.gnome.org/Nautilus
[06:56] <sxndave> raido: ty
[06:57] <pancom> could someone help me resolve a configure error when I use the make command?
[06:57] <ytt3r> I just upgraded my motherboard and processor and ram.
[06:57] <Mission_Control> awesome
[06:57] <AbhijiT> !details | pancom
[06:57] <Mission_Control> I've never been on freenode before
[06:57] <root> all
[06:57] <root> hey all
[06:58] <homiethesock> can you guys help me with a super-non-specific problem while i don't bother waiting for a response and continue to list details which make no difference whatsoever?
[06:58] <root> how everyone
[06:58] <needhelp1> does ubuntu come with a terminal web browser installed by default
[06:58] <needhelp1> like elinks or something
[06:58] <bazhang> homiethesock, not really
[06:58] <Mission_Control> hello fellow noun
[06:58] <itong> nbnb
[06:58] <pksadiq> needhelp1: w3m is by default
[06:58] <Guest38785> okok
[06:58] <needhelp1> pksadiq, thanks
[06:58] <itong> ok
[06:58]  * homiethesock chuckles just a little
[06:58] <ytt3r> When I try to boot with my new biostar motherboard and phenom ii x2 560 processor with 4 gb's of ddr3 ram and a 70 gb hard drive using a pci connector, I get the error outlined here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1479416
[06:58] <Guest38785> bye all
[06:59] <Mission_Control> goodbye fellow noun
[06:59] <bazhang> homiethesock, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:00] <sjacobs> Help please guys - LOVE ubuntu. But I cannot get sound. Have tried so many things
[07:00] <sjacobs> Please help
[07:00] <nawk> is "live chat support" no longer part of Ubuntu?
[07:00] <Matt_> Back on
[07:00] <sjacobs> nawk: Where can i go for live chat support
[07:01] <pksadiq> !sound | sjacobs
[07:01] <Guest38785> anyone 17 here?
[07:01] <sxndave> !ot | Guest38785
[07:02] <homiethesock> sorry baz, understood, etc
[07:02] <Guest38785> no no no
[07:02] <Guest38785> you use windows
[07:02] <Guest38785> ubantu not good
[07:02] <Guest38785> ue windows 7
[07:02] <Guest38785> ok?
[07:02] <FloodBot3> Guest38785: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:02] <Mission_Control> ubAntu?
[07:02] <Guest38785> ubantu too hard
[07:02] <Mission_Control> ubantu?
[07:02] <mrsunshine> hmm
[07:03] <Mission_Control> if you're here to talk about windows 7 then why are you on in the first place?
[07:03] <mrsunshine> ive checked for not to search for updates automaticly, but still the stupid update dialog comes up and tells me i need to check manualy?!
[07:03] <mrsunshine> i dont want that stupid dialog to come up at all =)
[07:03] <pancom> I have a problem installing a program. I am running the latest Ubuntu version. after I do whats in the readme to install, i get all these errors and that program won't start. my commands and errors are listed here... http://codepaste.net/p2src9
[07:03] <sxndave> Mission_Control: hes gone ;)
[07:03] <rww> mrsunshine: remove it from System -> Preferences -> Startup Applications
[07:03] <Mission_Control> sxndave linux hater lol
[07:03] <Matt_> okay.... dont know how to get back to talking to the dude that was halping me.... have a paste of with and without power, and am on a hard wire now
[07:03] <pancom> er well the program wont finish installing...
[07:04] <redbox> Mission_Control: No. Just an idiot.
[07:04] <Mission_Control> I see
[07:04] <sjacobs> Not sure who or how i just got help for my sound issue, but thanks. Totall n00b here. Would love to have someone help me out with this sound problem
[07:05] <Mission_Control> since I'm on this I have had a problem with ubuntu
[07:05] <donleo> nadie habla español
[07:05] <Jordan_U> !es | donleo
[07:05] <mrsunshine> rww, ahh thanks =)
[07:05] <Mission_Control> I need two graphics cards to support all four of my monitors
[07:05] <Mission_Control> whenever I install both and restart...
[07:06] <Mission_Control> the screens just sit there blank
[07:08] <needhelp1> pksadiq, is there any terminal music players ?
[07:09] <Mission_Control> don't know
[07:09] <pksadiq> needhelp1: may be nvlc, if you have installed vlc, or mplayer or mp3blaster
[07:09] <sjacobs> I still cannot get any sound - Anyone please help...
[07:11] <Mission_Control> most of the time this channel is just people coming and going
[07:12] <pksadiq> Mission_Control: just ignore it, and be in topic, do /help ignore
[07:12] <YankDownUnder> Mission_Control, That's not necessarily true.
[07:13] <pancom> can anyone answer my problem?
[07:13] <YankDownUnder> pancom, What was the question?
[07:13] <Mission_Control> what's your problem?
[07:13] <xtrac> you got a problem?
[07:14] <xtrac> dont we all got problems?
[07:14] <pancom> I have a problem installing a program. I am running the latest Ubuntu version. after I do whats in the readme to install, i get all these errors and that program won't start. my commands and errors are listed here... http://codepaste.net/p2src9
[07:14] <Mission_Control> it's probably because the latest version is unstable
[07:14] <morgan> hi, having trouble with a usb hdd. keeps reappearing n disappearing. I had the prob before n fixed it somehow, but cant work out how.
[07:14] <Mission_Control> or something like that
[07:14] <pancom> well it says it cant find most of the files
[07:14] <pancom> and they are in the right directory
[07:15] <xtrac> hydra lol
[07:15] <xtrac> gonna brute force something?
[07:15] <Diamondcite> pancom: consider installing the -dev packages from Ubuntu Repositories
[07:15] <YankDownUnder> pancom, Have you installed: build-essential
[07:15] <Mission_Control> what's build-essential?
[07:16] <YankDownUnder> If you're trying to build something from source, and you don't have "build-essential" - regardless of whether you've got the right files in the right places, you're not going to get very far - the headers and libs and other programs necessary for building are not there.
[07:16] <YankDownUnder> !build-essential
[07:17] <pancom> yeah, it says it is already the newest version
[07:18] <YankDownUnder> pancom, Well, then you might consider looking (Google is your friend) for a pre-build package, or looking for information posted by someone else that's already tried to do exactly what you're doing (with Hydra)
[07:18] <Mission_Control> I'm going to quit and re-enter as Massachusetts
[07:19] <YankDownUnder> Bad state that.
[07:19] <morgan> is there a linux equivelant to chkdsk for an ntfs usb hdd
[07:19] <YankDownUnder> Mission_Control, Try Michigan instead?
[07:19] <Mission_Control> why?
[07:19] <Jordan_U> morgan: No.
[07:19] <juragan_kopi> gmna w crax bt chatingan
[07:19] <juragan_kopi> hjgfjhg
[07:19] <Tech_Support> massachusetts seems just fine to me
[07:20] <YankDownUnder> Mission_Control, Michigan is heaps "badder" than Mass.
[07:20] <morgan> is there a solution.. windows has same disappear/reappear prob with the drive and chkdsk didn't seem to help.
[07:20] <Mission_Control> I don't get it
[07:20] <YankDownUnder> Mission_Control, Mucking with your mind, mate.
[07:20] <Mission_Control> oh wait
[07:20] <Mission_Control> I kind of get it
[07:20] <Mission_Control> well whatever
[07:20] <bisu[Shield]> I get an error gl-easy-install command not found, what am I missing?
[07:20] <Mission_Control> I've got to restart this thing
[07:20] <Jordan_U> morgan: For issues with Windows please join ##windows.
[07:20] <YankDownUnder> morgan, You're obviously have filesystem issues with NTFS - can't rightly fix it under linux
[07:20] <Mission_Control> and will be communicating through another source
[07:20] <brobinson> hello all, i need help.  running ubuntu 10.10, today my usb wireless headset became undetectable, now can i fix this?
[07:20] <juragan_kopi> #malang
[07:21] <YankDownUnder> brobinson, Have you checked that the module for it is loaded at all?
[07:21] <morgan> well i primarily use linux and one way or another i need to correct an issue with an external usb. just figured someone here may have encountered this before and had some handy help
[07:21] <Tech_Support> what is it with you people and using the latest yet UNSTABLE versions of things?
[07:22] <YankDownUnder> morgan, I have - and my resolution was to use MS in a VM to correct the issue - else, use like a Hiren's Boot CD to fix the issue.
[07:22] <brobinson> YankDownUnder, I have never had to check for a module in the past.  It worked well before today.
[07:23] <morgan> any particular steps once u used win, i can plug into an ms machine but don't seem to get any joy
[07:23] <bisu[Shield]> **----------------- I get an error gl-easy-install command not found, what am I missing?
[07:23] <YankDownUnder> brobinson, Every device that is a periph generally will have a module - especially USB - so you might want to find out what module is or is not loaded when you plug the device in.
[07:23] <pksadiq> !find gl-easy
[07:24] <YankDownUnder> morgan, I'd honestly try something like a Hiren's Boot CD - when I have issues like that - when even it's not being detected or having issues on an MS machine, I resort to that as a tool.
[07:24] <morgan> thanks yankdownunder, never heard of it but I'll look it up, cheers
[07:24] <YankDownUnder> morgan, It's an unbelievably wonderful tool to have and have around...
[07:24] <daniel_> f
[07:25] <daniel_> can someone help me?
[07:25] <YankDownUnder> daniel_, Depends.
[07:25] <daniel_> i have installed ubuntu 10.10 and when i put my cd in, it doesn't work
[07:25] <guang> 在干吗
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> daniel_:  clarify what 'dosent work'
[07:26] <YankDownUnder> (and what CD you're putting in)
[07:26] <djsoulfri> help with what
[07:26] <daniel_> the cdrom
[07:26] <dw-> any easy way to download veoh videos? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=882491 looks hard
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> daniel_:  and what are you expecting it to do? are you sayign the cd is not 'auto mounting' ? have you tried to mount it regullary?
[07:26] <daniel_> when i put audio cd in, the music is not playing
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> daniel_:  what music player are you trung to use?
[07:27] <YankDownUnder> daniel_, Does the cd show up on your desktop?
[07:27] <DasEi> dw-: install videowdowloadhelper-plugin in ff, call video, there you go
[07:27] <YankDownUnder> trung = trying ? :)
[07:27] <daniel_> no not on my desktop, but when i click on the computer icon it is there
[07:27] <dw-> DasEi: darr thx
[07:27]  * Dr_Willis loves playing 20 questions to get to the real question..
[07:27] <sjacobs> Hey there guys - STILL haven't managed to get Ubuntu to have sound. I have an ASUS N53jq - Please help
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> daniel_:  and what Music program are you using to play the muzak?
[07:27] <sjacobs> Running 10.10
[07:27] <guang> what is this
[07:28] <brobinson> YankDownUnder, is there no simple way to restart sound recognition?
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> guang:  what is what?
[07:28] <YankDownUnder> brobinson, Is it sound recognition you desire, or that your USB based headset works? They're two different things mate.
[07:28] <DasEi> guang; this channel ?
[07:28] <daniel_> none
[07:29] <DasEi> !support | guang
[07:29] <brobinson> YankDownUnder, I just want "Sound Preferences" -> Hardware to recognize my usb headset (like it did yesterday).
[07:29] <dw-> DasEi: actually i have a VideoHelper but veoh is missing :/
[07:29] <YankDownUnder> brobinson, Reboot, try again.
[07:29] <msl> sjacobs, If you open a terminal and type 'alsamixer', are Master and PCM both turned up?
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> dw- not all sites work with all tools. some sites may not work witn any of the tools.
[07:30] <sjacobs> msl, Ill give it a go
[07:30] <dw-> DasEi: nm it works.. sure this is the full? :/
[07:30] <DasEi> dw-: this plugin with the little animated balls  which try to move if you open any flash-site ?
[07:30] <dw-> DasEi: yea i refreshed getting an .flv lol
[07:30] <sjacobs> msl, to the maximum
[07:31] <brobinson> YankDownUnder, rebooting does not work, for some reason my usb headset has become undetectable, i guess restarting alsa or pulse audio will not work?
[07:31] <ShapeShifter499> I need help creating a script that will auto login my google documents and mount them via another script..  the thing is it asks for a password.. can I have the script pass on the password when asked and how?
[07:31] <DasEi> dw-: right, as of tiled files there are sites on the web, not ubuntu related though, which do such jobs, or need a loop and wget once serverdir is known
[07:31] <msl> sjacobs, And there are no 'M' in the boxes at the bottom of the bars for master and PCM?
[07:32] <sjacobs> msl, Im using a Realtek alc529
[07:32] <sjacobs> msl, no
[07:32] <dw-> DasEi: yar.. always a way
[07:32] <YankDownUnder> brobinson, The USB headset is a separate module => ergo, you're going to have to find out what module it was that loaded originally, and then either try to force the module to load in your modules.conf, or manually load it.
[07:32] <sjacobs> msl, I am dual booting, and windows 7 has sound fine
[07:32] <msl> And your speakers are plugged in?  :)
[07:32] <sjacobs> ITs a laptop
[07:32] <sjacobs> But i know you have to ask
[07:32] <sjacobs> :)
[07:33] <sjacobs> Im in internet support
[07:33] <YankDownUnder> sjacobs, Have you tried to Google and find out what sound driver is being used under linux for that sound card/hardware yet?
[07:33] <sjacobs> msl, this is the only thing ruining ubuntu for me, no sound
[07:33] <dw-> DasEi: actually it worked, not a partial file. very nice.. ;)
[07:33] <fidyduce> hello all
[07:33] <dw-> DasEi: 25MB for 1.5hrs
[07:34] <sjacobs> Yankdownunder, its an asus n53jq - it is using the alc259 chip
[07:34] <msl> sjacobs, Any sound related errors in your dmesg output?
[07:34] <sjacobs> card : hda intel
[07:34] <daniel_> can someone help my fix my cd rom?
[07:34] <YankDownUnder> sjacobs, I'm not going to Google for ya mate.
[07:34] <sjacobs> msl - how do i get that - dmesg in terminal?
[07:35] <fidyduce> can i move the current ubuntu install on my laptop to a pendrive... keeping all drivers and profiles?
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> daniel_:  and what Music program are you using to play the muzak? I never saw an answer.   load up some music program, try drag/dropping the cd onto it.. or try telling it to play a cd...
[07:35] <msl> ya.  It will be a large output.  You can send to a file or use more.
[07:35] <sjacobs> yankdownunder - what would you like me to find
[07:35] <DasEi> daniel_: can try, open a terminal..
[07:35] <YankDownUnder> sjacobs, Have you even tried to Google this issue?
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> fidyduce:  i think its possible. but  may take some work. (like most things in linux)
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> daniel_:  chat in the channel...  and give details as to what you are douing and trying...
[07:36] <YankDownUnder> sjacobs, Cuz for some strange reason, I've found that you're not the only one, and that there are resolutions to the issue.
[07:36] <DasEi> daniel_: sudo apt-get install hwinfo pastebinit
[07:36] <fidyduce> Dr_Willis: lol i am game
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> fidyduce:  thers some tools out there to let you 'remaster' your system onto a 'live cd' type setup. Or you could just start using 'dd'  and try cloning the HD to the other drive.  be carefull with dd.. one typo can erase the system :)
[07:37] <DasEi> daniel_: sudo hwinfo | grep cdrom
[07:37] <DasEi> daniel_: is the drive listed at all ?
[07:37] <daniel_> DasEi:i see the cd rom in computer
[07:38] <DasEi> daniel_: so yes
[07:38] <sjacobs> yankdownunder, what solution can you find?
[07:38] <DasEi> daniel_: pastebinit /etc/fstab
[07:38] <fidyduce> Dr_Willis: ok if there is a forum i could read and study up before my new thumbdrive gets here that would be awesome. really it is not a big deal i will just use the new netbook edition if all else fails...
[07:38] <msl> fidyduce, It will take some work to get the bootloader fixed if you copy everything over.
[07:39] <matt__> Diamond as soon as I pulled the AC it went down again
[07:39] <msl> Might be easier to just install to the USB and move over your files...
it says that the program is not installed
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> fidyduce:  it depends on exactly what you want to do really. theres some remaster guides. or just check out the '!clone' factoid.
[07:39] <DasEi> daniel_: which prog ?
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> !clone | fidyduce
[07:39] <YankDownUnder> sjacobs, In your GOOGLE search box: realtek+alc259+ubuntu => I'm not going to Google for folks...you're more than capable.
[07:40] <fidyduce> thanks everyone i will look into this
[07:40] <sjacobs> yankdownunder - thats all i wanted to know - i wasnt ASKING you to google. Just what to google for
[07:41] <pksadiq> YankDownUnder: why shouldn't you google? :O
[07:41] <daniel_> dasEi:nvm so what now
[07:42] <DasEi> daniel_: pastebinit /etc/fstab
[07:42] <dan_> Hey dudes
[07:42] <DasEi> daniel_: give replied link here
[07:43] <daniel_> DasEi: yes
[07:43] <DasEi> link?
[07:43] <daniel_> dasei:pastebin.com/32xygFGA
[07:44] <daniel_> http://pastebin.com/32xygFGA
[07:45] <DasEi> daniel_: got it, yes no entry for cd there, did you put cd in after installing  , and which distro do you use ?
[07:45] <bullgard> Does Maverick provide libreoffice DEB program packages? Using Synaptic I could not find any.
[07:45] <sjacobs> yankdownunder: http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/LLXmLNg2EVKwaoRJkMpR - this has a solution, but i am not sure how
[07:45] <kickedfish> hi all. I'm doing a clean install. had to do the acpi workaround for the install because it was freezing @ kernal_thread_helper did the install magic and now when I try to boot, it freezes at thebsame point.
[07:46] <daniel_> i used cd to install ubuntu and what is a dsitro?
[07:46] <daniel_> oh more thing how do i make the text in red in this chat?
[07:46] <korsakov> Hi! It looks like my attempt to repair grub2 after windows installation corrupted ext4 neighbour partition. I run gparted which reports me unallocated 93Gb instead of my good old /dev/sda8 with photos and stuff.  I also know that it lays befween 291930112 and 488397167 sectors on my hdd. Can I somehow try to repair it and have my pics back? With fsck.ext4 -b for example?
[07:46] <DasEi> daniel_: flavours of ubuntu, lsb_release -a  tells you
[07:46] <Morten_> Hi, I use the gnome display preferences to configure my external screen, but now I have a problem. At work I use one kind of external monitor, and at home I use another. When I try to detect monitors at home, the one from work shows up, and I cannot select the correct resolution... Does anyone know what to do?
[07:47] <daniel_> No LSB modules are available.
[07:47] <daniel_> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[07:47] <daniel_> Description:	Ubuntu 10.10
[07:47] <daniel_> Release:	10.10
[07:47] <daniel_> Codename:	maverick
[07:47] <FloodBot3> daniel_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:47] <bullgard> kickedfish: This apparently is a hardware-related bug. Please google for it in Launchpad with the catchword of your computer's type name.
[07:48] <DasEi> daniel_: so maverick is it, fine
[07:48] <DasEi> daniel_: sudo mkdir /media/cdrom
[07:48] <YankDownUnder> sjacobs, Install the "backports" for your kernel, check to make sure the module is NOT blacklisted in the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf (and others) => after a reboot, find out if the "hda-intel" module is loading via "lsmod | grep intel" => if the module is loaded, check the volume levels (so you're not muted)
[07:49] <daniel_> it says command not found
[07:49] <DasEi> daniel_: sudo chown -R $USER /media/cdrom
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> check your spelling.
[07:49] <daniel_> No such file or directory
[07:49] <YankDownUnder> daniel_, Um...have you checked to make sure the audio cd was, um, clean and without heaps of scratches?
[07:49] <junius_> Hey, My wifi's working fine on ubuntu, but while on, my wifi light on the laptop is blinking like crazy, should I be worried?
[07:50] <daniel_> i have tried diffrent cd's but none of them work
[07:50] <sjacobs> yankdownunder - Dumb that right down for me
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> daniel_:  you mean differnt 'audio/music cd' ? or have you tried some actual DATA cd's also?
[07:50] <YankDownUnder> sjacobs, I can't, really, mate. That's about as dumbed down as you're going to get...
[07:50] <DasEi> daniel_: which cmd caused an error ?
[07:50] <daniel_> hold on let me try data cd
[07:50] <kickedfish> hey guys, don't mean to be a douche, just on andirc and not sure if I'm sending messages.  you guys see me?
[07:51] <DasEi> daniel_: you want an fstab entry, anyway..
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> I should point out - you DONT mount a Music/Audio CD. You just run a music player and it should access it..
[07:51] <junius_> Hey, My wifi's working fine on ubuntu, but while on, my wifi light on the laptop is blinking like crazy, should I be worried?
[07:51] <YankDownUnder> kickedfish, Nope - don't see you at all.
[07:51] <korsakov> Can anyone tell me the difference between "blocks" in fsck and "sectors" in gparted info? I really need to repair my ext4 partition
[07:51] <daniel_> sudo chown -R $USER /media/cdrom
[07:51] <kickedfish> <3 thanks Yank.
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> DasEi:  i have not seen the use of a fstab entry for a 'cdrom' used in ubuntu in some ages...
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> if ever.
[07:52] <DasEi> korsakov: sectors are line the line of a streetsystem, whereas blocks are the single houses
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> gnome should auto mount data cd's as needed. and a music cd.. well.. start a music program and see if it can play them
[07:52] <junius_> Hey, My wifi's working fine on ubuntu, but while on, my wifi light on the laptop is blinking like crazy, should I be worried?
[07:52] <DasEi> Dr_Willis: as of udev ? on lucid still there
[07:52] <daniel_> dasEi:the data cd doesn't work
[07:53] <YankDownUnder> junius_, The light blinking fast and repeatedly can cause radiation damange to your retinas. Don't look at the light.
[07:53] <kickedfish> junius_ not a problem Ubuntu takes control of some hardware led's and makes them work as status lights.
[07:53] <DasEi> daniel_: dir set at chown'ed ?
[07:53] <daniel_> heh?
[07:53] <DasEi> and=at*
[07:53] <daniel_> ??
[07:53] <DasEi> daniel_: sudo mkdir /media/cdrom
[07:53] <DasEi> daniel_: sudo chown -R $USER /media/cdrom
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> DasEi:  none of my Ubuntu box;'s here have a entry for cdrom in fstab.. I seem to recall if an entry was in fstab can break automounting. (but i have no entries on the 3 machines i am checking)
[07:54] <junius_> hmm, well itz right on top of the keyboard of my laptop so very hard to not look at it, any way to get rid of it ?
[07:55] <piercedwater> demolish your pc
[07:55] <piercedwater> now
[07:55] <YankDownUnder> junius_, You'll have to put on a blindfold - save your retinas.
[07:55] <daniel_> DasEi: i did that:sudo chown -R $USER /media/cdrom and nothing happens
[07:55] <DasEi> daniel_: fine, so :
[07:55] <DasEi> daniel_: sudo mount /dev/sr0  /media/cdrom
[07:56] <rww> piercedwater: be helpful, please
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> daniel_:  you did put a 'data' cd in the drive just a moment ago?
[07:56] <daniel_> mount: /dev/sr0: unknown device3
[07:56] <daniel_> mount: /dev/sr0: unknown device
[07:56] <daniel_> yes
[07:57] <DasEi> daniel_: sr0=srZero
[07:57] <rww> use /dev/cdrom instead
[07:57] <DasEi> daniel_: pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[07:57] <rww> DasEi: the error they posted has a 0 ;)
[07:57] <DasEi> o or 0 ? heh
[07:57] <kj6lxu> how to install gnome 2.32 on ubuntu 10.04 ?????
[07:58] <rww> DasEi: get a better font ;P
[07:58] <kickedfish> if junius_ didn't get yelled at for spamming and impatience and I have only a half idea if someone saw my first message~spaaaam~(kickedfish) hi all. I'm doing a clean install. had to do the acpi workaround for the install because it was freezing @ kernal_thread_helper did the install magic and now when I try to boot, it freezes at thebsame point.
[07:58] <rww> kj6lxu: You don't. Ubuntu doesn't add new major versions of software the repositories for released versions of Ubuntu.
[07:58] <rww> !latest
[07:58] <rww> s/the/to the/
[07:59] <daniel_> http://pastebin.com/VvGGzqE3
[07:59] <kj6lxu> rww: can i install from source
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> kj6lxu:  if thats not the version in the repos.. use a ppa, or use source. (ppa would be easiest)
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> kj6lxu:  but its proberly better to not do this on a 'work' machine.
[08:00] <rww> kj6lxu: Sure, but it's likely to cause all sorts of problems and isn't supported here.
[08:01] <bullgard> Does Maverick provide libreoffice DEB program packages? Using Synaptic I could not find any.
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> bullgard:  not in the default repos. I think theres some LibreOffice ppa's out there
[08:01] <rww> bullgard: There's a PPA for it. Maverick's repositories only contain OO.o
[08:01] <rww> !libreoffice
[08:02] <javahorn> Hi
[08:02] <javahorn> what is the best way to install skype with working video?
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> !skype
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> No idea on the video part.
[08:02] <bullgard> rww, Dr_Willis Thank you very much for your help.
[08:03] <kickedfish> [0.727302] [ffffffff8100aee0] ? kernel_thread_helper+0x0/0x10 is where its hanging. if I have piqued anyone's interest.
[08:03] <daniel_> DesEi; u there?
[08:04] <DasEi> daniel_: yes, lil' wondered about such a short syslog, no hints from there
[08:05] <DasEi> daniel_: sudo mount /dev/cdrom  /media/cdrom
[08:05] <javahorn> Dr_Willis: Thanks.
[08:05] <javahorn> any idea for video, does it work the way i install from community link?
[08:06] <Fwb2700> Hello
[08:06] <DasEi> daniel_: no error ?
[08:06] <daniel_> unknow device
[08:06] <kickedfish> hey all, reset my BIOS to optimal defaults and it worked. thanks for listening.
[08:06] <DasEi> daniel_: hwinfo | pastebinit
[08:07] <daniel_> The program 'hwinfo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[08:07] <daniel_> sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[08:07] <daniel_> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[08:07] <DasEi> daniel_: see above
[08:07] <Fwb2700> I was here earlier seeking help. And well I still had the same issue. I cannot boot any os I am getting error not partition exists. Grub rescue
[08:07] <AbhijiT> !fixgrub | Fwb2700
[08:07] <DasEi> daniel_: sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[08:08] <DasEi> daniel_: hwinfo | pastebinit
[08:08] <daniel_> The program 'hwinfo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[08:08] <daniel_> sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[08:08] <daniel_> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting
[08:08] <daniel_> this is what i get
[08:08] <FloodBot3> daniel_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> daniel_: so it tells you the exact command to use . to install the program.
[08:09] <DasEi> daniel_: i gave you installation of pastebinit and hwinfo in the first lines, so scroll back a few lines , or read the output in your terminal
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> which is a really neat feature in the command line for ubuntu to have. :)
[08:10] <DasEi> Dr_Willis: no, its all this error messages, bad ubnut, ;)
[08:10] <Fwb2700> AbhijiT: Thanks butt that confuses me I am new to ubuntu
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> DasEi:  to much text... cant handle it all...
[08:10] <daniel_> http://pastebin.com/tCfZ6eM0
[08:10] <DasEi> ah
[08:10] <AbhijiT> Fwb2700, oh no idea then i got to go some work to do bye ask someone else
[08:11] <AbhijiT> bye all
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> DasEi:  neat little blog losting on that 'topic' -> http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/its-too-hard-is-no-excuse-43304
[08:12] <root> hi
[08:12] <Guest40740> hi
[08:12] <DasEi> daniel_: (no cmd!) line 298   block.device = '/dev/sr0'
[08:13] <daniel_> ?? what that means?
[08:13] <DasEi> daniel so found as thought, hal maybe :
[08:13] <Guest40740> my USB webcam is not working in ubuntu 10.10 desktop
[08:13] <suprscott> can anybody point me to a really good faq on setting up virtual directories using 10.4 and apache?
[08:13] <Fwb2700> Ok can someone help me?
[08:13] <DasEi> daniel_: sudo apt-get remove --purge hal
[08:13] <Guest40740> how to install latest UVCdrivers for usb cam?
[08:14] <DasEi> daniel_: sudo apt-get install hal
[08:15] <daniel_> ok i did that
[08:16] <DasEi> daniel_: sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
[08:16] <bestwithu> hey can anyone guide me how to use Terminal in ubuntu as any pdf or videos
[08:16] <DasEi> daniel_: sudo mount /dev/sr0  /media/cdrom   (with a disk being inserted)
[08:16] <daniel_> sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart ok i did that
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> bestwithu:  thers 1000's of web sites and books and guides otu there on usibng 'bash' and thet termnial
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> !terminal
[08:17] <Fwb2700> I guess not :(
[08:17] <DasEi> daniel_: sudo mount /dev/sr0  /media/cdrom   (with a disk being inserted)
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> bestwithu:  check delicious.com under the 'bash' and 'terminal' tags also.
[08:17] <bestwithu> thanks a lot both of you
[08:18] <daniel_> mount: /dev/sr0: unknown device
[08:19] <Tech_Support> for some reason I can't boot anything from a flash drive on this laptop
[08:19] <Tech_Support> IBM Thinkpad
[08:19] <Tech_Support> it's an old machine
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> Tech_Support:  with some old machines.. they may not even support boting from flash drive.
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> Tech_Support:  with some old machines that can boot from flash. ive seen them be very picky about what flash drives they can boot from
[08:20] <Fwb2700> I cant boot anything fullstop
[08:20] <DasEi> daniel_: somewhat strange, like a disabled port in bios.. well hwinfo sees it, and no complaints in syslog..
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> Fwb2700:  not even a live cd?
[08:20] <Tech_Support> the cd tray doesn't work so I don't know how to install xubuntu
[08:20] <DasEi> daniel_: open and close the tray (always a cd in in this tries)
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> Tech_Support:  networkboot is a possibility. or remove hd, put in a differnt box. install.. put it back
[08:21] <daniel_> DasEi: it worked fine on my windows 7 but when i installed ubuntu 10.10 it stoped working
[08:21] <Tech_Support> I'm stuck with freaking windows until I can install it from an external hard drive casing
[08:21] <DasEi> daniel_: dmesg | tail | hwinfo
[08:21] <Tech_Support> I've thought of both
[08:21] <Fwb2700> Dr_Willis: Live cd works. Only. I want to fix my bootloader though so I don't need cd
[08:21] <Tech_Support> hmm
[08:21] <juk> hey im back hehe
[08:22] <Tech_Support> hey youe back
[08:22] <Tech_Support> awesome
[08:22] <DasEi> daniel_: strange thing is that the hardwarelister shows correct /dev identfier whereas terminal says unknown device
[08:22] <juk> Tech_Support: do i know you?
[08:22] <daniel_> hm... so what now?
[08:22] <DasEi> daniel_: dmesg | tail | hwinfo
[08:22] <Tech_Support> I don't know
[08:22] <juk> ok
[08:22] <Tech_Support> I'm also known as mission control
[08:22] <daniel_> ok i did dmesg | tail | hwinfo
[08:23] <Tech_Support> massachusetts
[08:23] <Tech_Support> and village idiot
[08:23] <DasEi> daniel_: dmesg | tail | pastebinit, sorry
[08:23] <Fwb2700> And bob
[08:23] <Tech_Support> I also go on wyldryde server
[08:23] <DasEi> Tech_Support: please put nicks, else gets confusing
[08:23] <daniel_> http://pastebin.com/2RzE1QKb
[08:23] <Tech_Support> ok
[08:24] <zr_> aaaa
[08:24] <Fwb2700> If we are talking to everybody though??
[08:24] <zr_> 测试下
[08:24] <Fwb2700> ENGLISH
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> Fwb2700:  so if a live cd works.. why can you not install the system?  perhaps resummarize the whole problem to the channel.
 should i reinstall the ubuntu?
[08:25] <DasEi> daniel_: did you change something in bios since install from cd ?
[08:25] <daniel_> no
[08:25] <DasEi> daniel_: complaint regarding hda_intel and irq (that's sound)
[08:25] <Fwb2700> Dr_Willis: I have tried that. As soon as I reboot and remove cd it doesn't boot. I am avoiding deletein m win 7 partition as I need it
[08:25] <LXCC-Vincenzo> hi all
[08:26] <DasEi> daniel_: sudo apt-get install gnome-volume-manager
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> Fwb2700:  'it dosent boot' meaning - you get no grub menu? or the grub menu fails... or....
[08:26] <iromli> hello guys, what's the command to show all environment variables?
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> iromli:  'set' or 'env' i recall.
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> iromli:  the list can get very large
[08:27] <DasEi> daniel_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:27] <Fwb2700> Dr_Willis: Error no such partition grub rescue:
[08:27] <daniel_> Reading package lists... Done
[08:27] <daniel_> Building dependency tree
[08:27] <daniel_> Reading state information... Done
[08:27] <daniel_> Package gnome-volume-manager is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:27] <daniel_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:27] <FloodBot3> daniel_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:27] <daniel_> is only available from another source
[08:27] <daniel_> E: Package 'gnome-volume-manager' has no installation candidate
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> Fwb2700:  interesting.. this is a normal ubuntu install. - nothing fancy?
[08:28] <DasEi> daniel_: though it's not win, I suggest a restart, it's like for an unknown reason no entry under /dev, maybe hal does the trick then
[08:28] <DasEi> daniel, k..
[08:28] <iromli> Dr_Willis: ah yes, 'env' does the trick ... i keep fogetting this command ... thanks
[08:28] <Fwb2700> Brand new install of 10.10
[08:28] <DasEi> daniel_: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:28] <daniel_> ok i will restart
[08:28] <DasEi> waiiit
[08:28] <daniel_> http://pastebin.com/UwbESkQF
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> Fwb2700:  yo could try to reinstall grub manually from a live cd. via a command similer to --> http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/its-too-hard-is-no-excuse-43304
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> Fwb2700:  oops.. wrong paste.. just a mioment
[08:29] <Fwb2700> Dr_Willis: Brand new install of 10.10 along side 7
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> tomboy crashed my noted.. just a moment. :)
[08:30] <LXCC-Vincenzo> i'd installed Lubuntu 10.4 on my eeepc 701 some mounths ago, but now i cannot enter with graphical screen. Using alt+f1 i can enter in text mode (so i'm sure the password is correct). how i can fix the problem?
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> Fwb2700:  command similer to --> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/InstalledSystemMointPoint  /dev/sda --recheck
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> LXCC-Vincenzo:  you see no LDM (gui) login screen? or is it there but not letting you login?
 the cd still doesn't work, i think i will reinstall the os
[08:33] <Fwb2700> Dr_Willis: Tried that earlier someone on here was helping. Couldn't get it to work
[08:33] <DasEi> daniel_: strange thing that..                open terminal again
[08:33] <DasEi> daniel_: cd /dev && ls
[08:33] <daniel_> ok
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> Fwb2700:   You could always put the grub loader on a flash drive and see if it can boot from that. (as a test)
[08:34] <DasEi> daniel_: no sr0  there ?
[08:34] <LXCC-Vincenzo> Dr_Willis: i can see the LDM, but when i try to enter with my login-password, i cannot enter
[08:34] <daniel_> no it's not there
[08:35] <cyphase> does anyone else find that the automatic totem bookmarking only works sporadically?
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> LXCC-Vincenzo:  as a 'test' you could stop ldm with 'sudo service ldm stop' (from a console) then try 'startx' and see if that gets  you to the desktop
[08:35] <DasEi> daniel_: pastebinit /var/log/messages
[08:35] <daniel_> http://pastebin.com/Gm1ZWQ6r
[08:36] <atari2600a> hey, I know natty's beta should be hitting within a month so I was wondering if someone could give me a more finite ETA
[08:37] <KucukMubasir> hi guys, when I type "sudo service gdm stop" I got "stop: Unknown instance", why might it be?
[08:37] <concon> atari2600a: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule
[08:38] <atari2600a> concon: thanks
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> KucukMubasir:  what version of ubuntu are you using?
[08:38] <pnorman> I'm contemplating getting a SATA controller for my ubuntu server. Any suggestions as to where to go for researching hardware compatability?
[08:38] <DasEi> KucukMubasir: maybe because it's not running ?!
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> KucukMubasir:  you are not accidently using XDM/KDM/LDM are you?
[08:39] <atari2600a> saddening that I'll have to wait another month, but nice to know a3 is hitting the streets this week
[08:39] <atari2600a> kthxbye
[08:40] <DasEi> daniel_: also all fine there, as 48X cdrom in sr0 ... sudo touch /dev/sr0
[08:40] <KucukMubasir> Dr_Willis: I open it in recovery mode and in root
[08:40] <DasEi> KucukMubasir: so no gdm runniing, try with start instead, then stop works
[08:40] <KucukMubasir> thanks
[08:40] <DasEi> :)
[08:41] <KucukMubasir> and when I type sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-*, I got this error after a few lines "Couldn't find package nvidia-*"
[08:42] <DasEi> daniel_: sudo service udev restart
[08:42] <KucukMubasir> oh, I resolved it as well, I think
[08:42] <DasEi> KucukMubasir: miss the '-',  and for a checkout first append a --dry-run
[08:42] <daniel_> maybe this will help:http://img824.imageshack.us/i/screenshot2xfq.png/
[08:42] <LXCC-Vincenzo> Dr_Willis: I tryied, it says: "ldm: unrecognized service"
[08:43] <KucukMubasir> DasEi: do you mean "sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*" ?
[08:44] <KucukMubasir> oh, you were referring the --dry-run-purge ?
[08:44] <DasEi> KucukMubasir: sudo apt-get  remove --purge nvidia*  --dry-run
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> LXCC-Vincenzo:  if you are useing 'gdm' try gdm, if kdm, try kdm. just make sure your 'login screen' service is not running befor you try the startx command.
[08:45] <DasEi> KucukMubasir: the appendix to make sure you don't waste unwanted pakets, if all fine,  cut it again
[08:45] <KucukMubasir> DasEi: same error
[08:45] <KucukMubasir> Couldn't find package nvidia*
[08:45] <DasEi> KucukMubasir: you saw the turnaourund in first half of cmd ?
[08:45] <KucukMubasir> what do you mean by that?
[08:46] <DasEi> daniel_: sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom
[08:46] <DasEi> KucukMubasir: apt-get remove --purge vs apt-get --purge remove
[08:46] <daniel_> mount: /dev/sr0: unknown device
[08:47] <KucukMubasir> DasEi: ?
[08:47] <DasEi> daniel_: but ls should show it now under /dev
[08:47] <KucukMubasir> there are some packages "Note, selecting nvidia-blablabla" for reges "nvidia*"
[08:47] <DasEi> aharr, KucukMubasir
[08:48] <DasEi> daniel_: cd /dev && ls
[08:48] <DasEi> sr0 there ?
[08:48] <LXCC-Vincenzo> Dr_Willis: with ctrl+alt+f7 i can see login screen of Lubuntu, but in text mode, using ps aux, i not see ldm or gdm or kdm, do you want see the entire ps aux?
[08:48] <daniel_> cd /dev && ls
[08:49] <daniel_> yes sr0
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> LXCC-Vincenzo:  you may want to ask in #lubuntu how to stop their login service. I thought it was ldm. it may be called somthing differntly
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> LXCC-Vincenzo:  you could look in /etc/init/ and see if theres a gdm.conf or ldm.conf of somthingelseDM.conf it may be using.
[08:49] <DasEi> daniel_: the touch just placed a "dummy there", well :  sudo gconfeditor
[08:50] <DasEi> daniel_:  sudo gconf-editor
[08:50] <DasEi> *
[08:50] <daniel_> the configuration editor just opened
[08:51] <LXCC-Vincenzo> ok thank you Dr_Willis
[08:51] <KucukMubasir> DasEi: any help for me apart from aharr ? :(
[08:52] <KucukMubasir> could I be removed them already?
[08:52] <DasEi> KucukMubasir: apparently files where found now, so if nothing but nvidia is listed.  drop the dry-run from the end and do desired purge
[08:52] <MegaHerz> I need to create WIFI network via /etc/network/interfaces on 10.04. Is there a good guide on this?
[08:52] <KucukMubasir> DasEi: that list is the same as without dry-run anyway
[08:53] <LXCC-Vincenzo> Dr_Willis found lxdm, i'll try to stop it
[08:54] <DasEi> KucukMubasir: remove often pulls lots of dependencies out, too, which is not always wanted, this was my advice, and you found your nividias now, nor ?
[08:54] <gaelfx> MegaHerz: why do you have to do it via that particular path?
[08:55] <MegaHerz> gaelfx: for reasons ) can you help me?
[08:56] <gaelfx> MegaHerz: not sure, but I'll try
[08:56] <MegaHerz> gaelfx: just need to know what to type in the /etc/network/interfaces - how to setup key, ssid, and make my dhcp to work over it upon its start
[08:56] <KucukMubasir> DasEi: I still get "couldn't find package nvidia*"
 u there?
[08:56] <KucukMubasir> anyway I am trying to install the package now, let's see
[08:56] <gaelfx> MegaHerz: did you check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo ?
[08:56] <LXCC-Vincenzo> Dr_Willis found ok stopped lxdm, using startx (without sudo) there is this error "Error from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
[08:57] <MegaHerz> gaelfx: actually, I'm having the Internet via WiMax using a device with reverse engineered driver which doesn't like NM for some reasons. So I have to stop NM service every time I run the Internet
[08:57] <falkon303> anyone ever find out how to make desktop effects work again?
[08:57] <falkon303> mine decided to randomly quit
[08:57] <falkon303> I've read about similar experience
[08:57] <falkon303> s
[08:57] <MegaHerz> gaelfx: and now I just need to share my internet with a comrade laying near me in the hospital ))))
[08:57] <falkon303> not nvidia
[08:57] <falkon303> just that ubuntu said "Oh... I am tired of desktop fx"
[08:58] <MegaHerz> gaelfx: no, thanks for the link!
[08:58] <falkon303> "let's put some horizontal lines through your firefox fonts while I am at it."
[08:58] <gaelfx> MegaHerz: well, if you're connected via wireless, I'm not sure if you can create your own ad-hoc wireless network, but lemme do a little more digging
[08:58] <falkon303> "Thanks UBuntu!  My website looks waay better!"
[08:58] <gaelfx> MegaHerz: and np by the way
[08:59] <gaelfx> !enter > falkon303
[08:59] <falkon303> I don't need that stupid 3d matrixy looking pos cube neways
[08:59] <gaodebo> 济南的
[09:00] <gaelfx> !zh > gaodebo
[09:00] <falkon303> ubottu please see my (.|.)
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> LXCC-Vincenzo:  so 'startx' is not even working for the user?
[09:00] <gaelfx> MegaHerz: when you say WiMax, are you talking about 3g?
[09:03] <bisu[Shield]> how do you install git 1.7
[09:03] <MegaHerz> gaelfx: I don't know technical details but afaik WiMax is what a provider called "Yota" here in Moscow uses in his network and I thikn its more like WiFi, but fires on broader distances )
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> !info git
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> bisu[Shield]:  it seems to be in the default repository.
[09:04] <KucukMubasir> darn
[09:04] <KucukMubasir> I got the error of "frequency is out of range"
[09:04] <KucukMubasir> DasEi: any help for this?
[09:04] <gaelfx> MegaHerz: hm, well, if it's using your wireless card, I don't think you'll be able to make a wireless network with it and keep your connection
[09:04] <KucukMubasir> can I change something in conf files to decrease this frequency?
[09:05] <gaelfx> gaelfx: but you could set it up so you can play wormux or something like that together :D
[09:05] <gaelfx> MegaHerz:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[09:05] <usseldridge> Hello every one!, do you how to create an iso image from a usb ubuntu pendrive?
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> usseldridge:  not sure thats going to be easially doable.. whats On the pendrive now exactly?
[09:06] <gaelfx> MegaHerz: oh, it might be possible/easier if you have a wifi USB dongle so you can use one wireless device to connect to the internet and another to broadcast your adhoc network
[09:06] <MegaHerz> gaelfx: no, I use a special device, plugged into usb
[09:06] <MegaHerz> gaelfx: so they are different devices - one for the Internet, and another - for Wifi
[09:06] <Customer__> Hey, I'm having terrible troubles with Samba. No matter what I try, my XP box and Ubuntu box can't see each other...
[09:06] <stieg> does anyone know where to get binary drivers for ralink WNIC
[09:07] <bisu[Shield]> weird the latest is 1.5
[09:07] <DasEi> daniel : ?
[09:07] <usseldridge> Dr_Willis: i have to create a VirtualBox machine but VB don't support booting from usb
[09:07] <Fudge> hi how can I make a init.d script start on boot, my runlevel is 2 and rc2.d 3 4 etc has S19espeakup as i figured it would, but it snot starting on boot and there are no errors i can see
[09:08] <javahorn_> Hi, i am on LIVE CD ubuntu 10.10. Can i find skype and test it firsthand for video etc , before installing actual ubuntu?
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> usseldridge:  just 'dd' the flash drive to a image file. and set it up as a hard drive image for vbox. would be a way to do that then.
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> usseldridge:  no need tomake it an 'iso' image file. when a HD image file can work
[09:09] <javahorn_> Dr_Willis: any suggestion?
[09:09] <Fudge> javahorn_  sure look in synaptic for skype
[09:09] <javahorn_> Fudge:  sorry very new
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> usseldridge:  ive seen some vbox docs/guides on doing this. but never tried it myself.
[09:09] <falkon303> ruby on rails or php (anyone)?
[09:09] <javahorn_> Fudge:  where to find synaptic
[09:09]  * gaelfx1 sighs, pidgin :(
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> synaptic is not on the default setups any more i thought.
[09:10] <Fudge> click on system menu, administration then synaptic package manager
[09:10] <gaelfx1> Dr_Willis: Synaptic is, software sources is hidden inside it though
[09:10] <falkon303> sometimes I think hummus was created by the gods
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> javahorn_:  applications -> software center look for skype perhaps.
[09:10] <Fudge> oh Dr_Willis ?  you can also goto a terminal or console and type sudo apt-get install skype
[09:10] <usseldridge> Dr_Willis: ok, i'll try
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> Fudge:  that works :)
[09:10] <eXpLoD> how do i refresh the upper panel?
[09:10] <LXCC-Vincenzo> Dr_Willis: yes, startx not work for the user
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> if the repos are right
[09:10] <Fudge> sry Dr_Willis  for answering whilst you were
[09:11] <falkon303> so the other day I was tweaking with getting silverlight to run on ubuntu
[09:11] <Fudge> now back to my prob with espeakup, its not loading on boot :D
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> LXCC-Vincenzo:  as a second 'test' try making a new user. 'sudo adduser billgates' (or whoever) and login ont ot he console as them.. see if startx works for them.
[09:11] <falkon303> I got the loader to show up
[09:11] <falkon303> the spinner
[09:11] <gaelfx1> !enter > falkon303
[09:11] <falkon303> what jacks it up is when the xml file identifies the ubuntu platform
[09:12] <KucukMubasir> how may I go into init 3?
[09:13] <falkon303> SYstem.WIndows.Browser.Dll
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> !runlevel | KucukMubasir
[09:13] <falkon303> specifically
[09:13] <gaelfx1> MegaHerz: did you find the info in that second link I sent you? there's an example interfaces file that you shoudl take a look at, I think it has what you want
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> KucukMubasir:  short answser.. you dont..  ubuntu dosent use runlevels that way
[09:13] <javahorn_> Fudge: it is not at software centre, i mean , does skype along with LIVE CD , so that i can test, rather than installing afresh?
[09:13] <KucukMubasir> thanks Dr_Willis
[09:13] <LXCC-Vincenzo> Dr_Willis: i've created new user but startx not work
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> javahorn_:  could be the Skype repos are not included by default.  check the skype factoid to see where its at.
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> !skype | javahorn_
[09:14] <KucukMubasir> is there any solutions for "frequency is out of range" error?
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> LXCC-Vincenzo:   thats a sign of a deeper systemissue. not just a user setting. :( that can be much harder to figure out.
[09:14] <gaelfx1> eXpLoD: to refresh the panel, I believe you would have to restart gdm, so best bet is log out and in again
[09:14] <Fudge> javahorn_   see my second solution, quick  check sudo apt-cache search skype if it shows sudo apt-get isntall skype
[09:14] <gaelfx1> eXpLoD unless I misunderstood what it is you want to do?
[09:14] <falkon303> I sure wish mio factory worked on ubuntu
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> LXCC-Vincenzo:  are you getting any sctual error messages with it? what does startx do exactly when youy try it.
[09:15] <falkon303> javascript -> exe
[09:15] <eXpLoD> Well the date is weird,it's upside down,so i thought refreshing the panel would help
[09:15] <eXpLoD> how is the default image viewer named in ubuntu?
[09:16] <sharperguy> Hey. Does anyone here know how I can install the java OpenCL library? There doesn't seem to be anything in the repos.
[09:16] <rww> eXpLoD: evince, I think
[09:16] <gaelfx1> eXpLoD maybe you need to remove the applet from the panel and then re-add it?
[09:17] <eXpLoD> yea,how is the date and time applet named?
[09:17] <ruif13> hi, please i need a big help :( dono why i can't use my monitor connected to my laptop with HDMI cable, anyone can help? i have nvidia
[09:17] <gaelfx1> eXpLoD not sure, right-click it and select properties to find out
[09:17] <gaelfx1> ruif13: do you have the nvidia drivers installed already?
[09:18] <ruif13> yes gaelfx1
[09:18] <eXpLoD> yeah just de-selected show time and then selected it again and now its fine
[09:18] <javahorn_> Fudge: sudo apt-cache search skype at command prompt does not throw up anything, so it is confirmed LIVE CD does not have skype preinstalled. now best will be to install as you suggested?
[09:18] <Fudge> javahorn_  in the default places it gets programs from, called the repositories
[09:18] <ddd> sharperguy,  I believed u just need to add to your CP path
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> ruif13:  ive seen some laptops get confused. if the cable/monitor is not plugged in when the system powers/boots up. also there may be Fn-XXX keys on the laptop to toggle the external monitor.
[09:19] <gaelfx> ruif13: and have you tried asking the settings utility to detect monitors while the hdmi is plugged in?
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> ruif13:  OR try the nvidia-settings tool to see if they detect it.
[09:19] <Fudge> jump on skype.com and download a .deb for it, pretty easy to install sudo dpkg -i skype-filename.deb
[09:20] <gaelfx> eXpLoD haha, cool, I love when stuff like that happens
[09:20] <ruif13> gaelfx I the nvidia detects the model monitor and resolution but when i restart x still the same
[09:20] <ruif13> gaelfx i look at the boot of my laptop and doesn't ssee anything about hdmi
[09:21] <javahorn_> Fudge:  video works fine with that kind of .deb?
[09:21] <ruif13> i gona pastbin my config
[09:21] <ruif13> w8
[09:21] <Fudge> yes javahorn_
[09:21] <javahorn_> Fudge:  Thanks, let me try, be here. ;-)
[09:21] <gaelfx> ruif13: gimme a sec, I'm, gonna take a look at my settings
[09:21] <ayush_> which are the non-apple notebooks that have a multi-touch touchpad?
[09:22] <gaelfx> ayush_: tons of em, nowadays
[09:22] <gaelfx> ayush_: I'm pretty sure a lot of ASUS lappies have em
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> its impossible to keep up with all the new neat stuff comming out.. or comming out soon. :)
[09:22] <ddd> ehm does ubuntu support multitouch device?
[09:22] <stieg> where to get binary drivers of ralink wireless cards on net, anyone knows?
[09:23] <Assid> hrmm how well does ubuntu netbook perform on those 10" asus eepc netbooks
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> ddd:  it was supposed tobe a improved feature in 10.10  i recall.
[09:23] <ayush_> gaelfx, are ASUS laptops good for linux?
[09:23] <ruif13> gaelfx my configs http://paste.ubuntu.com/572987/
[09:23] <gaelfx> ayush_: yeah, I'd say they're generally pretty good
[09:24] <LXCC-Vincenzo> Dr_Willis: sorry for delay, i'm trying to create a paste of errors
[09:24] <gaelfx> ayush_: most popular brands work somewhat well at least, though there's almost always a little tweaking that needs to be done
[09:25] <gaelfx> ruif13: did you try to use it with twinview at all? to see if perhaps the problem is with xinerama?
[09:25] <ruif13> hum gona see
[09:26] <ayush_> Is there any major company that sells laptops with no OS / freedos / linux pre-installed?
[09:26] <ddd> as ayush_ asked, any notebook add multitouch (excl apple)?
[09:26] <gaelfx> ddd: can you scroll with two fingers on your touchpad in ubuntu? cause that's multitouch
[09:26] <gaelfx> ayush_: there are a few, but most of the "majors" seem to have stopped doing that
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> LXCC-Vincenzo:  the 'pastebin' command does wonders. :)
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> ayush_:  system76 i think does.
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> ayush_:  but 'major' is a relative word here. :)
[09:27] <gaelfx> I think if you buy 1000+ units, you can get them without anything installed
[09:27] <lahwran> is there a way to use apt-get trickery to 'upgrade' linux mint to ubuntu?
[09:27] <concon> Synaptic had multitouch long before apple
[09:27] <ayush_> yeah but system76 laptops are as costly as apple's and are made out of plastic.
[09:28] <ddd> gaelfx, I haven't tried that yet. Is it support zooming?
[09:28] <javahorn_> Fudge: while installing 10.10. i get "No Root File System defined". what to correct?
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> lahwran:  it uses the same repos for the 'ubuntu' side. so try upgrading it and see.. dont expect much spport from here, or mint if it fails however.
[09:28] <ddd> and rotating?
[09:28] <gaelfx> ddd: last time I tried it on my netbook, I believe it did
[09:28] <gaelfx> ddd: did not try rotating
[09:28] <lahwran> Dr_Willis: it's not my machine, it's a friend who installed mint and now I'm going "eww go away mint"
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> lahwran:  you could try removing all the mint specific repos.. adding the ubuntu ones.. and let it fight it out. (i would suggest doing backups)
[09:29] <concon> javahorn_: Sounds like you haven't defined a root partition
[09:29] <ddd> good to knowing that:)
[09:29] <martinusex> Hi folks, glad to have found this channel :)
[09:30] <gaelfx> ddd: well, don't take it as a given, it's something you gotta test on your hardware. just cause it worked for me doesn't mean you'll get the same results with anything
[09:30] <paone> can any one help me
[09:30] <javahorn_> concon: i have existing windows(corrupted), so where i should define root partition?
[09:30] <gaelfx> martinusex: glad you did too, what can we help you with?
[09:30] <ddd> gaelfx, got it
[09:30] <ddd> Is ubuntu will use gnome3 shell on the next release?
[09:30] <paone> i installed ubutnu in my laptop dell inspiron n4030
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> ddd:  i dont think so.. it jhas the new 'unity' stuff its going to be using
[09:30] <paone> and my wireless and lan does work
[09:31] <paone> how to install it
[09:31] <javahorn_> it says about unmount partitions but i did not unmount it
[09:31] <paone> i am new to it
[09:31] <gaelfx> ddd: there were rumory kinda things that they'll be using unity, but even if they don't, I don't think Gnome 3 will make the cut
[09:31] <ddd> Dr_Willis, u mean ubuntu will _NOT_ adopt gnome3 shell at al?
[09:31] <concon> javahorn_: Are you installing ubuntu while keeping windows?
[09:31] <javahorn_> specify  partitions manually i clicked
[09:31] <Fudge> javahorn_  when tryint to install the root filesystem goes in / so the mount  point will be /
[09:31] <javahorn_> concon:  yes
[09:32] <martinusex> @gaelfx : i have a broken Lucid 10.04, I installed oregano and some things around that and the GUI got messed up (mixed colors and such)
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> ddd:  'rumor abound' but ive not heard it mention that they will be useing it..
[09:32] <concon> javahorn_: The partition you're going to install ubuntu on needs to have the label /
[09:32] <martinusex> In the end the system hangs
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> ddd:  i would say it  may be in the repos eventually.. but not the default
[09:32] <concon> Not lable, mount point
[09:32] <gaelfx> martinusex: did you try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop?
[09:32] <martinusex> i try to reinstal from live cd but the systems hangs in the GUI mode
[09:33] <gaelfx> martinusex: or maybe reinstalling gdm is a better place to start, sorry, I went a little nuclear off the bat there
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> !info oregano
[09:33] <javahorn_> concon:  Fudge  i have to give it manually somewhere after specify partitions manually?
[09:33] <javahorn_> ie / mount point?
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> martinusex:  you installed a electronics app and it messed up the gui?
[09:33] <concon> It's while you're specifying partitions, it's one of the input boxes
[09:33] <ddd> actually I feel comfortible with gnome2.x
[09:34] <gaelfx> ddd: if you really wanna try it, there's probably a ppa for gnome 3, you could always try it out with a persistent liveusb install
[09:34] <martinusex> @gaelfx : never mind.. I currently try to repair the system
[09:34] <Fudge> javahorn_  did you put / in as the mount point
[09:34] <javahorn_> concon: Fudge , which point i have to say for /  mount point?
[09:34] <martinusex> Dr Willis Yep
[09:34] <ouned> hi. Does xrandr support negative positions for monitors? I have my right screen on the right and my second on the left which seems to be a huge problem for ubutnu
[09:34] <gaelfx> martinusex: np, good luck
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> martinusex:   that seems like a sign of some deeper problem. That app shouldent messed up the system.
[09:35] <ouned> LOL i have my Main* screen on the right
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> martinusex:  try booting to the text mode, see if startx works, look for error messages
[09:35] <Fudge> javahorn_  that fix you up?
[09:35] <ddd> gaelfx, yes I have. and my short concl I less productive
[09:35] <javahorn_> Fudge: NO
[09:35] <Fudge> a / i.e slash character
[09:35] <Fudge> did you do that
[09:35] <gaelfx> ddd: that's not surprising, it seems like a kinda wild change to undertake
[09:35] <javahorn_> i get  unmount partition just after i select Engligh language
[09:36] <LXCC-Vincenzo> Dr_Willis: this is the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/572993/
[09:36] <javahorn_> Fudge:  so i am not sure, where i can enter this / as mount point
[09:36] <martinusex> Dr Willis : right.. i really have no clue what has ahppened.. additionally I tried KiCad but I'm not sure when it actually happend: I'm currently in the text mode: will come back in a minute or so
[09:36] <Fudge> javahorn_  you cant install to a drive tha tis mounted or you ahve viewed from your cd, right click and unmount it
[09:37] <ddd> gaelfx,  there're some change that bother me. unity more less
[09:37] <Fudge> you also need to make sure that if you are sharing it with windows that you partition it, you really need to just do a google for installing ubuntu side by side windows
[09:37] <KucukMubasir> guys when I type xrandr, I get the error of "Can't open display"
[09:37] <KucukMubasir> any help?
[09:38] <javahorn_> Fudge:  :(
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> LXCC-Vincenzo:  as another test try just running 'X' see if it has a dixplay with a X cursor..  somting seems really weird here.
[09:38] <gaelfx> ddd: well, the nice thing about unity is that it's designed more or less for widescreen monitors, so things that don't need to be vertical generally aren't. I can't believe it's taken this long since widescreens became popular for anyone to do that
[09:39] <Chali> KucukMubasir, have you tried sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop?
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> gaelfx:  one of the reasons i liked windowmaker so much years ago.. :) vertical dock-warf things..
[09:39] <KucukMubasir> Chali: no
[09:39] <KucukMubasir> I think it is still running
[09:39] <KucukMubasir> let me try
[09:40] <gaelfx> Dr_Willis: sounds like an interesting project, is it still around?
[09:40] <KucukMubasir> I got gdm stop/waiting response
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> gaelfx:  yes. has some neat ideas that i really Miss in these newer desktops
[09:40] <KucukMubasir> "gdm stop/waiting"
[09:40] <gaelfx> Dr_Willis: googling
[09:42] <Chali> KucukMubasir, let's talk in private so we don't flood the channel
[09:43] <LXCC-Vincenzo> Dr_Willis: when i use startx , there is no X cursor. there is only a line in black screen for a moment and after that message appear
[09:43] <martinusex> @gaelfx , Dr_Willis: I went inot recovery mode and have it repair broken packages and update grub, so ths system looks healthy again. :) thank you for your healing hands
[09:43] <gaelfx> Dr_Willis: that does look pretty handy, and it's pretty impressive that an X11 window manager manages not to look completely awful
[09:44] <gaelfx> martinusex: haha, glad you got your system back in working order
[09:44] <javahorn_> Fudge: what is optimum drive space to allocate?
[09:45] <Fudge> javahorn_  it depends on your drive, 20gig from
[09:45] <Psycho_Dad> raido: Hi again raido. I'm back under Ubuntu and I couldn't install Debian's zd1211 firmware as Ubuntu seems to contain it in the linux-firmware package.
[09:46] <gaelfx> does ubottu have anything for initial partition set up? like recommendation?
[09:47] <Chali> Could anyone help me with this? "Makefile:5: buildsys.mk: The file or folder does not exist make: *** No rule for creating "buildsys.mk". Halts"
[09:47] <gaelfx> javahorn_: usually it's like this: 10-30GB for '/' and double your physical ram for swap, then make the rest '/home'
[09:48] <martinusex> !info oregano
[09:48] <ubuntuWantaBe> can someone help, I am using banshee with ubuntu 10.10 for my ipod,  but everytime I plug my ipod up I get an error saying "Could not mount HerPod"
[09:48]  * gaelfx snickers
[09:48] <ubuntuWantaBe> do I need to mount the ipod?
[09:49] <martinusex> Ok people I am gone you might see me more often now :), Bye
[09:50] <gaelfx> javahorn_: the important thing to remember is that you want your '/home' on a separate partition from '/' so that if you have to reinstall, you can still keep all your important files
[09:51] <ubuntuWantaBe> I thought ubuntu 10.10 just worked with all ipods & iphones
[09:51] <gaelfx> ubuntuWantaBe: it sure sounds like you ought to try at least
[09:52] <gaelfx> !ipod | ubuntuWantaBe
[09:52] <ubuntuWantaBe> and I am more then willing except I never mounted anything, I don`t know how to begain
[09:52] <ubuntuWantaBe> oh ok thx
[09:53] <zetheroo> how do you know if Java JVm is running or not?
[09:53] <gaelfx> ubuntuWantaBe: go to Places->Computer . Your ipod should show up there, then right-click it and you should be able to mount it
[09:53] <gaelfx> zetheroo: ps -A
[09:53] <ubuntuWantaBe> ok working on that
[09:54] <sony> hi all
[09:54] <gaelfx> howdy, what's up?
[09:54] <zetheroo> gaelfx: if it's not running how do I run it?
[09:54] <V3NOM> hi
[09:55] <V3NOM> hello
[09:55] <ubuntuWantaBe> this time I got "unable to mount location ,DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bu
[09:56] <crimson22> anyone know how to set up dual screens on ubuntu so i can actually drag windows between them?
[09:56] <gaelfx> zetheroo: I don't really know, sorry. Why do you want java vm to be running?
[09:56] <ubuntuWantaBe> just thought I should show you the whole mesg
[09:56] <zetheroo> gaelfx: Minecraft ;)
[09:56] <Dr_Willis> crimson22:  if using nvidia  - run nvidia settings.. enable twinview. restart X server. (for best effect)
[09:57] <gaelfx> Dr_Willis: er, I thought twinview just duped the first screen?
[09:57] <ashnur> good morning
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> crimson22:  if using nvidia  - run nvidia settings.. enable twinview -> save to xorg.conf  restart X server. (for best effect)
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> gaelfx:  twinview is xinerama + extra features.. it can clone, or have one huge desktop
[09:57] <gaelfx> zetheroo: you can't start minecraft straight away?
[09:57] <crimson22> Dr_Willis, that's what I'm doing, and although i can do separate things on each screen, i can't drag a firefox or explorer window from one screen to another
[09:57] <gaelfx> Dr_Willis: ah, spiffy
[09:57] <zetheroo> gaelfx: nope ...  I do this  all the time with m y 2 monitors
[09:58] <crimson22> Dr_Willis, hmm sec will check
[09:58] <zetheroo> gaelfx: I didn't
[09:58] <zetheroo> gaelfx: all I have is the .jar file
[09:58] <ratc> looking for a good "paint" program for ubuntu. something like windows paint. GNU paint does not have "undo" , and Gimp is okay, but i need something simpler. Anybody know a good paint program?
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> !info mtpaint
[09:59] <bazhang> ratc, for kids?
[09:59] <ratc> no not for kids
[09:59] <gaelfx> zetheroo: do you have java installed?
[09:59] <zetheroo> gaelfx: oh .. I just did "java -jar minecraft.jar" and it's come up ... :)
[09:59] <bazhang> that rules out tuxpaint then
[09:59] <ratc> yes, just tried it. it's pretty cool.
[09:59] <gaelfx> zetheroo: haha, congrats
[10:00] <zetheroo> gaelfx: I was trying to use the command from the Minecraft site ... which was going nowhere
[10:00] <himay> hey can ny one please help me with message queues
[10:00] <crimson22> Dr_Willis, that did it, many thanks brosiedon
[10:00] <ratc> i will try mtpaint. thanks
[10:00] <gaelfx> ubuntuWantaBe: did you try unplugging and repluggin?
[10:00] <gaelfx> (sorry about lateness of reply)
[10:00] <ubuntuWantaBe> no trying that now
[10:01] <himay> hi Please give tell me how to extract send time & recv time from message queus
[10:01] <gwinbeeeee> hi, I recently upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04, and am now faced with an unresponsive keyboard and mouse as soon as GDM starts.
[10:01] <himay> vhdfgh
[10:01] <ashnur> i would ask you help if it's possible. i am having a laptop with a relatively screwed up system. running xfce(was ubuntu, then i installed xubuntu and removed gnome). now it always boots in low graphics mode, but if I enter in text mode and run startx or startxfce4, everything works like charm
[10:02] <gaelfx> ubuntuWantaBe: also, are you sure the ipod is charged at all?
[10:02] <gwinbeeeee> this doesn't concern me too much as I plan to upgrade right into 9.10 from here but I am not sure how I am going to be able to do it without a keyboard
[10:02] <bazhang> ashnur, removed gnome how
[10:02] <gaelfx> !who > ubuntuWantaBe
[10:02] <ubuntuWantaBe> same mesg yes it is charged up
[10:02] <ubuntuWantaBe> oh ok
[10:02] <ashnur> bazhang, apt-get remove gnome
[10:02] <gwinbeeeee> I managed to ctrl+shift+sysrq+r, and then ctrl+alt+f1
[10:03] <gwinbeeeee> but from there I am not sure what to do.
[10:03] <gaelfx> ubuntuWantaBe: could you pastebin the whole error message please?
[10:03] <gaelfx> !pb
[10:03] <punkinhell> HEY ALL
[10:04] <ubuntuWantaBe> sure
[10:04] <pupuserc1803c> hi
[10:05] <gaelfx> ubuntuWantaBe: ok, I have another thought actually, what did you last plug this ipod into?
[10:05] <ashnur> i googled this thing for more then 5 hours now, but everyone who had this problem also had some driver problems which i do not have. i found one thread where someone had the same exact problem and removing everything from his user directory solved it. but this is a half year old system, i rather not delete everything
[10:06] <ubuntuWantaBe> gaelfx  unable to mount location, DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> ashnur:   its possible the theres a user setting that has a lower res' selected. does the login screen also use a low res mode? theres settings tools that let you selectchange the users res.
[10:06] <punkinhell> guys i need help in syntax highlightig in vanill vi
[10:06] <punkinhell> any ideas?
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> punkinhell:  install teh vim package that is the 'full' vim. the default vi is vim 'light' that dosent have the feature i think
[10:07] <ubuntuWantaBe> the location thing is throwing me off
[10:07] <amit> Whai is PCI latency stand for and what is its function?
[10:07] <punkinhell> i can't install VIM on my machine
[10:07] <ubuntuWantaBe> not that I know anything abut d
[10:07] <bazhang> amit, how does that relate to ubuntu
[10:08] <ubuntuWantaBe> dbus either
[10:08] <ashnur> I am not really sure if it is low-res or not. it does not seem like it. I have an external monitor which I configured with nvidia-settings (runned with root, saved xorg.conf) to run and turned my laptop monitor off. but the dialog about low graphics mode appears on the laptop monitor.
[10:08] <amit> bazhang: just asked to know no matter sorry!
[10:08] <ddd> punkinhell, sudo apt-get install vim
[10:08] <gaelfx> ubuntuWantaBe: hang on a sec, I'm looking
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> punkinhell:   given the # of vi variants out..   you may need to find one that does support that feature then.
[10:08] <ubuntuWantaBe> ok
[10:09] <punkinhell> i want to basically write up some code to syntax highlighting in vi instead of doing a VIM install
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> punkinhell:  the default 'vi' on ubuntu - is vim.
[10:09] <veovis_muaddib> Can someone please point me towards a (hopefully quick) method for making a bootable XP flash drive from Ubuntu?
[10:09] <ddd> punkinhell, I don't vi support syntx highli
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> veovis_muaddib:  seen that asked in her befor.. never seen an answer.. ask in #windows perhaps.
[10:09] <veovis_muaddib> Dr_Willis: That's what I figured, thanks
[10:09] <ddd> punkinhell, use vim
[10:09] <zxh728> how can i compile vim if i want to use gvim? can anyone tell me what parameters to use when ./configure
[10:10] <evrim> helo
[10:10] <punkinhell> @Dr_Willis : i have vi installed on my office machine,,, i have no rights to install VIM on it
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> zxh728:  why do you need to compile it?
[10:10] <amit> bazhang: m still unable to install 64 bit OS on virtual machine
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> punkinhell:  so what sort of ubuntu install is this that they dont have the normal vim installed by default?
[10:10] <oCean> !info vim-gnome | zxh728
[10:10] <zxh728> i use ubuntu10.04 and i want to install vim7.3
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> punkinhell:  you could always compile it i guess..
[10:10] <bazhang> amit, then use 32bit
[10:10] <ubuntuWantaBe>      gaelfx: I last plug it into windows xp then rebooted over into unbuntu
[10:10] <Dr_Willis> zxh728:  thers proberly PPA's for newer version
[10:11] <punkinhell> i want to do it the hard way.. i mean if i can cook some code replicating VIM in vi, that would be better.. so any idea where i should start looking at firstlY?
[10:11] <gaelfx> ubuntuWantaBe: did you eject the ipod before you restarted?
[10:11] <ashnur> punkinhell, what "vi --version" tells you?
[10:11] <oCean> !afk > coaboa
[10:11] <ubuntuWantaBe> no
[10:11] <punkinhell> vi just tracks to /usr/bin/vi
[10:11] <ubuntuWantaBe> <gaelfx : no
[10:11] <gaelfx> ubuntuWantaBe: maybe you should try plugging it into a windows machine, then ejecting it, then plug it back into your ubuntu machine
[10:11] <ashnur> that's not what I asked
[10:11] <punkinhell> the vi i am talking about is installed on a HP-UX machine
[10:12] <amit> bazhang: ok i will use 32 bit but i want to know why it is not installing so m not going to give up i will try as i want to learn only!
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> punkinhell:  so they are not using ubuntu?
[10:12] <punkinhell> nopes
[10:12] <ashnur> :)
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> punkinhell:  so.. why are you asking about it in here then?
[10:12] <bazhang> amit, and as suggested before ask about vbox products from their site in #vbox
[10:13] <ddd> punkinhell,  :)
[10:13] <Dr_Willis> find/install  or compile a vi that supports what you want.
[10:13] <ubuntuWantaBe> ok couldn`t hurt I guess thxs back later as now I will have to reboot back into xp then boot back into ubuntu  thats a lot of boots
[10:13] <amit> :bazhang:they are saying its ubuntu problem
[10:13] <ashnur> Dr_Willis, do you have any idea how can I further debug that with standard boot it enters in low graphics but with startx everything is ok. I am definitely a newbie on this, I do not know the difference betwen these.
[10:14] <punkinhell> u've got my question wrong, i guess. I have vi installed on a HP-UX machine at my work place. And ofcourse i have ubuntu installed at home. as i don't have rights to install anything aon the HP-UX machine at work, i  want to add the syntax highlighting functionality of VIM in VI at work
[10:14] <oCean> amit: does your cpu have vt-x or vt-d?
[10:15] <amit> oCean: yes i enabled both
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> ashnur:  Not sure of any differanfe  - they mey be running some dirfernt startup/desktop startup files.
[10:15] <ashnur> punkinhell, I still do not understand why the simple :syntax on wouldnot work
[10:15] <amit> oCean: i enabled VT,VT-d from BIOS setup
[10:15] <oCean> amit:  you tried  egrep '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo ?
[10:15] <amit> oCean: yes
[10:15] <punkinhell> well in vanilla vi u don't have a syntax option to work on...see how painful that is :)
[10:15] <oCean> amit: and it returns what?
[10:16] <amit> oCean: it has vme and vmx also under flags
[10:16] <ashnur> Dr_Willis, that's what I thought, but are there any documentation somewhere about this? or any keyword to search..? I am really stuck with this :(
[10:17] <ddd> punkinhell, like I said before u need to install vim. maybe with static link
[10:17] <oCean> amit: hmm.. in that case you should be able to run 64bit guest. And your error is..?
[10:18] <extra11> ubuntu is nice :) desktop version, any try the server version?
[10:18] <bazhang> extra11, sure
[10:18] <extra11> good?
[10:18] <amit> oCean:http://img64.imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img64/2296/screenshotyvh.png
[10:18] <bazhang> extra11, some questions relating to it?
[10:18] <bazhang> extra11, you may wish to try #ubuntu-server if so
[10:18] <amit> oCean: i have 64bit as my host also
[10:19] <oCean> amit: maybe it requires boot option for the kernel. It's redhat?
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> ashnur:  as a test. make a new user.. see if affects themn also
[10:20] <amit> oCean: yes i want to run red hat under virtual box and Ubuntu is my host OS
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> punkinhell:  set up sshfs. use local vim to edit files..
[10:21] <ashnur> ok, thanks, brb
[10:21] <eXpLoD> i wanna add something in my bashrc so everytime i do scrot it saves the file in ~/Desktop/Screenshots and in .jpg format...any help?
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> eXpLoD:  any idea what you need to add? ive never uses scrot
[10:22] <punkinhell> ok thanks,will get back to u if it doesn't work
[10:22] <oCean> amit: you might try asking in #rhel, mentioning your exact error
[10:22] <eXpLoD> maybe some alias or something....scrot is just a command line screenshot taker..it's handy sometimes
[10:22] <amit> oCean: ok thanx i am going for it.thanx again for giving me time
[10:23] <oCean> amit: no problem.
[10:23] <LXCC-Vincenzo> Dr_Willis: no other ideas?
[10:23] <KucukMubasir> how may I see the log file for hardwares?
[10:28] <MegaHerz> How to kill avahi to not it let come back again?
[10:29] <bazhang> MegaHerz, why would you want to
[10:29] <MegaHerz> bazhang: it removes IP from wlan0 damnit
[10:29] <coraxx> MegaHerz: its proberly using a lot of CPU right ?
[10:30] <MegaHerz> coraxx: no, it just makes bad things with my Intenet sharing
[10:30] <coraxx> MegaHerz: was just guessing :-)
[10:30] <amit> oNly cRiMe iZ CURiOSitY!
[10:31] <javahorn_> Fudge: how long it should take to install, i am stuck at keyboard layout for almost 1 hr!!!!
[10:31] <Atharva> hi
[10:31] <fortash> Hello
[10:31] <Atharva> i m in a prob
[10:31] <Atharva> pl help
[10:31] <bazhang> Atharva, then ask
[10:31] <amit> problem batao
[10:31] <fortash> I don't seem to find add/remove applications anywhere
[10:31] <fortash> why?
[10:32] <AegisX> Hi guys. I'm gonna ask a potentially inflammatory question... Emacs or vim? I want to learn one or the other.
[10:32] <coraxx> fortash: which Ubuntu are you using ?
[10:32] <fortash> netbook edition
[10:32] <AegisX> I've read the wiki article, and I'm still not sure which to go for.
[10:32] <amit> Atharva: problem batao yar
[10:32] <fortash> latest
[10:32] <bazhang> AegisX, ask in #ubuntu-bots
[10:32] <bazhang> amit, stop that
[10:32] <Atharva> I have installed VMware in my Pinguy OS(Linux) .How to transfer files from host to Virtual machine ???
[10:32] <amit> bazhang: sorry
[10:32] <bazhang> Atharva, check out pinguy support then its not supported here
[10:33] <coraxx> fortash: in your Application-menu isn't there a link for Ubuntu Software Center ?
[10:33] <Atharva> ya it's there
[10:33] <fortash> Yes there is
[10:33] <fortash> should I search for it there?
[10:33] <coraxx> fortash: that is the tool for removing and installing software easily in Ubuntu :-)
[10:33] <AegisX> bazhang: I'm in the channel; do I ask a bot?
[10:34] <javahorn_>  how long it should take to install, i am stuck at keyboard layout for almost 1 hr!!!!
[10:34] <fortash> Yeah, just figured that out, heh sorry
[10:34] <fortash> thanks for the help anyways
[10:34] <badbyte> hi i wanted to know how can i autostart a programm when logging on
[10:35] <coraxx> fortash: your welcome
[10:35] <bazhang> AegisX, for "best" type questions yes. just try them and see what you like
[10:36] <coraxx> badbyte: two ways to do that ... one is the "session"-tool in Ubuntu, where you can add alink to the software you wish to start ...and the other is in the terminal where you can add a file (don't recall its name but I'll look it up), where you list the software you wish to start
[10:37] <Atharva> @fortash Pl help me...
[10:37] <AegisX> bazhang: Thanks :)
[10:37] <coraxx> badbyte: the Ubuntu tool is located in System --> Preferences --> Startup Application
[10:39] <KucukMubasir> how may I return to GUI after I exit there with CTRL+ALT+F2 ?
[10:39] <bazhang> ctrl alt f7
[10:40] <dfxxqi> list
[10:41] <LiquidDemocracy> I want to sell an old PC. How can I find out what the CPU speed is and get more details about the CPU?
[10:41] <bazhang> sudo lshw
[10:42] <rafal_> przez jaka komende mogę wywołać przycisk akcji w xfce ?
[10:43] <badbyte> coraxx: thanx
[10:43] <coraxx> badbyte: your welcome
[10:43] <bazhang> rafal_, english here please
[10:43] <javahorn_> if i am stuck at keyboard layout for more than 1 hr, during installation of 10.10, i am ok?
[10:43] <KucukMubasir> bazhang: are you sure of that?
[10:43] <shaun_> hey guys, having issues in ubuntu 10.4 with hitting > and shift at the same time
[10:43] <KucukMubasir> the screen just frozen on Checking battery state with CTRL+ALT+F7
[10:43] <shaun_> in quakelive it will "stick"
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> javahorn_:  i think thats a sign somthing crashed.. or you are formating a VERY VERY alrge hard drive in the background
[10:44] <paone> can anyone help me
[10:44] <paone> please
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> LiquidDemocracy:  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:44] <shaun_> anyone know where to disable > + shift hotkey?
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> KucukMubasir:  if you are using a nvidia system. and dont ahve the nvidia drivers installed yet. Ive had changing to the console/back to X. 'goof up' badly
[10:45] <paone> i have dell inspiron n4030
[10:45] <javahorn_> Dr_Willis: along with existing windows, i am installing
[10:45] <paone> and i installed ubuntu 10.4
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> shaun_:  shift >  should not be a hotkey..
[10:45] <paone> my wireless doesn't work
[10:46] <paone> i have dw1501
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> shaun_:  sounds to me like an issue in quakelive, or the browser setting perhaps?
[10:46] <javahorn_> Dr_Willis: itmight be formatting around 100 gb in the background, which i selected to take space for ubuntu
[10:46] <javahorn_> Dr_Willis:  should i wait more?
[10:46] <paone> hello
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> javahorn_:  is it resizeing a windows install? that can take a LONG time.
[10:46] <paone> no one is listening to  me
[10:46] <KucukMubasir> Dr_Willis: I couldn't get your last reply to me :/
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> paone:  talk in complete sentances, dont use enter every 4 words.. give more details and be concise.
[10:47] <KucukMubasir> paone: there might be thousands of reason for it
[10:47] <javahorn_> Dr_Willis:  i did drag for lesser space for windows, once it asked, that might be reason?
[10:47] <shaun_> Dr_Willis, when i hit . and shift at the same time it gets stuck doing whatever . is bound to . I've asked in the quakelive forums but they are blaming it on ubuntu
[10:47] <paone> ok
[10:47] <LiquidDemocracy> Dr_Willis, thx
[10:47] <badbyte> i have another question
[10:47] <bazhang> paone, whats the chipset
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> shaun_:  shift . = > - thats not a 'hotkey' it Might be a browser setting/key combo.
[10:47] <paone> broadcom
[10:47] <bazhang> paone lspci in terminal to paste.ubuntu.com
[10:47] <shaun_> humm, ill look imusing firefox
[10:48] <bazhang> !broadcom | paone please have a read
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> KucukMubasir:  untill i install the actual nvidia drivers onmy systems. (or use the nomodeset option, on a live cd) the consoles are useless tome.
[10:48] <javahorn_> Dr_Willis: progress bar is almost 70% done,  so if guess be justified , i think, i am 2-3 steps away from full installation?
[10:48] <badbyte> i have a zotac ion board as a pc. how can i get more performance when playing 1080p movies
[10:48] <badbyte> ???
[10:48] <paone> ok
[10:48] <KucukMubasir> Dr_Willis: I think I have installed the necessary drivers
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> javahorn_:  resizeing windows can take forever..  expecially if the hd was not scan/defragged first.
[10:48] <javahorn_> Dr_Willis: 6 -7 hrs?
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> javahorn_:  i always make it a point to even resize within windows.. or via gparted - NOT in the installer..
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> javahorn_:  depends on the sizes of the HD.. yes...
[10:49] <KucukMubasir> but the problem is that after I fill "Username", the login screen blacks out and refreshes back to "username" with empty textbox :/
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> javahorn_:  i resized a 1tb hd the other day.. took several hrs.. it was very full however.
[10:49] <bazhang> KucukMubasir, use small case only
[10:49] <KucukMubasir> I do bazhang
[10:50] <badbyte> i have a zotac ion board as a pc. how can i get more performance when playing 1080p movies???
[10:50] <javahorn_> Dr_Willis:  320 gb around,safe to go out for sometime(6-7 hrs!!!) ?
[10:50] <Jordan_U> Dr_Willis: Why not resize using the installer?
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> KucukMubasir:  now you are stateing a differnt  issue.. that sounds liek X just crashing.
[10:50] <KucukMubasir> so I think, I might login in console and return to GUI after, but It won't work
[10:50] <bazhang> badbyte, dont repeat so quickly please
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> Jordan_U:  windows resizeing ntfs = like 10x+ faster then the installer.. also gparted at least gives me some feedback on how long its going to take..
[10:50] <badbyte> bazhang: ok sorry :)
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> Jordan_U:  so do what you want. :)
[10:50] <KucukMubasir> even a gibberish username freezes and refreshes it
[10:50] <Jordan_U> Dr_Willis: Good points.
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> 'best' is to install linux on its own hard drive. :)
[10:52] <KucukMubasir> Dr_Willis: if X is just crashing any advice for resolving this, or can I see something like log file to see the real error?
[10:52] <coraxx> badbyte: which player are you using ?
[10:52] <BIGBAMBU> copa
[10:52] <oCean> !it | BIGBAMBU
[10:52] <badbyte> coraxx: vlc mediaplayer, and the zotac board is a dual atom
[10:53] <coraxx> badbyte: from which type of medium are you playing the video files ?
[10:53] <BIGBAMBU> i prefer english guys
[10:54] <sheepz> hello, I'm experiencing a weird issue, after I boot, the mouse does not work about 15-20seconds
[10:54] <badbyte> coraxx: the files are on the HD
[10:54] <badbyte> coraxx: harddisk
[10:55] <coraxx> badbyte: ok ...but is the Harddrive as Solid State Disk ?.... is it a 7200 rpm regular disk ?
[10:55] <eyesuck> hello,  i have 10.10 and i want to move the window decorators from left to right side of windows
[10:55] <eyesuck> how do i do that
[10:55] <bazhang> !controls > eyesuck
[10:55] <eyesuck> like that close/minimize
[10:56] <badbyte> coraxx: it is a sata
[10:56] <coraxx> eyesuck: use the gconf-editor  (start in terminal)  ...then goto to apps --> metacity --> general
[10:56] <dashka> how to install yahoo messenger
[10:56] <sheepz> anyone?
[10:56] <dashka> pls tell me
[10:56] <bazhang> dashka, install pidgin
[10:57] <dashka> ok
[10:57] <dashka> tnks
[10:57] <bazhang> sheepz on a hub?
[10:57] <coraxx> badbyte: you can use "mplayer" ...I've fiddled with a while back to try to get the most out of the systems performance.  However it becomes a bit unstable...the player I mean.
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> KucukMubasir:  /var/log should have some Xorg logs
[10:58] <azm> Hello, how is called the orgininal torrent client for ubuntu please <
[10:58] <azm> ?*
[10:58] <bazhang> transmission azm
[10:58] <coraxx> eyesuck: then editor the button_layout so that the colon (:) is on the other side ...and it should be switched
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> azm:  'transmission' is the default torrent client
[10:58] <azm> Dr_Willis, thank you.
[10:59] <badbyte> coraxx: i know but is there a way to start vlc player so that it uses both cores?
[11:00] <Chali> could anyone please help me with my installation of audacious 2.5-alpha2? :3
[11:00] <coraxx> badbyte: that I don't know, sry
[11:00] <bazhang> Chali, from where
[11:01] <harasho> hey what is a good program to use for writing c++?
[11:01] <badbyte> ok
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> harasho:  dozens of IDE's and text editors out for that
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> !info geany | Haseo
[11:01] <francuz> hi, i have problem with installing Ubuntu 10.10. I cant click "next" button :( in this step wen you're typeing your password etc :( will sb help me?
[11:01] <dashka> how to chat by using yahoo ID with camera
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> harasho:  see 'geany'
[11:01] <harasho> Dr-Willis: yeah haha i was wondering if one stood out as the best. i saw a bunch
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> harasho:  it all depends on yur needs and the details
[11:02] <dashka> how to chat by using yahoo ID with camera
[11:02] <harasho> Dr_Willis: something that will be simple and clean, i just use c++ for my programming classes
[11:02] <tazz> in.archive.ubuntu.com is misbehaving... who do i contact ?
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> harasho:  a little vague.. try geany i guess...
[11:03] <bazhang> tazz, try another mirror
[11:03] <Chali> bazhang, when I run ./configure it says that I'm missing gtk2, but it's installed :S
[11:03] <coraxx> tazz: you can change your repository server to "main server" in your "Sources"
[11:04] <bazhang> Chali, why would you possibly want to go outside package management for that
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> coraxx:  the command ' sudo apt-get build-dep PACKAGENAME
[11:04] <dashka> how to chat by using yahoo ID with web cam
[11:04] <bazhang> !repeat | dashka
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> coraxx:  can install all needed dev dependencies to compile a package. If it has an older verison in the repos
[11:04] <Chali> bazhang, well. just seems like a great update. but whatevs. I'll figure it out eventually :/
[11:04] <harasho> Dr_Willis: haha sorry about that. i took a look a geany. it looks perfect for my needs
[11:05] <dashka> ok
[11:05] <coraxx> Dr_Willis: nice info .... however I was not asking :-)
[11:05] <dashka> how to chat by using yahoo ID with camera
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> pass it on then. :) i need to make my fonts bigger.
[11:05] <bazhang> dashka, dont repeat so quickly
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> dashka:  install some of the IM clients.. see if they have the feature.
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> !im | dashka
[11:06] <tazz> bazhang, coraxx i have already changed, but that dosnt change the fact that the repo is misbehaving. The problem is being faces by others too. Just wanted to report it.
[11:06] <KucukMubasir> Dr_Willis: should I check syslog for this login screen issue?
[11:06] <coraxx> tazz: what error occurs ?
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> KucukMubasir:  you can always check.. X logs are in /var/log/Xorg.0.log* also
[11:06] <Raj007> quick question - I changed my hard drives around (physically), where do i edit my grub menu to stop pointing windows from SDD to SDA ? What file i mean, i'm in 10.10
[11:07] <bazhang> tazz, thats india so main servers would not be very close, better to choose something in JP or TW to be honest
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> Raj007:  you could just set teh bios to boot the other hd.. and it may work properly.
[11:07] <tazz> bazhang, i use US
[11:07] <thedark> hello everyone
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> Raj007:  and rerun 'sudo update-grub' after you boot into linuix
[11:07] <tazz> coraxx, speeds are less than 1 kbps
[11:08] <bazhang> tazz, the servers sometimes have issues, then come back. be patient
[11:08] <coraxx> tazz: ok...a bandwith issue.  Then as bazhang recommends, use a server closer to you. (maybe also check your own internet connection)
[11:08] <thedark> I am trying to use Google Chrome to read comics on this site:  http://www.netcomics.com/comic/emperorscastle.htm
[11:08] <thedark> it opens a page but it doesn't display the content
[11:08] <ljsoftnet> in cairo dock can i change the animation settings on, opening and closing applications?
[11:09] <Raj007> Dr_Willis: ahh it auto-detected it on update-grub
[11:09] <thedark> it works in Firefox, but I am trying to move to Chrome
[11:09] <bazhang> thedark, you mean chromium from ubuntu repos?
[11:09] <tazz> bazhang, its not a problem for me, i have a local repo hosted , which syncs with the ones in .us :p
[11:09] <thedark> Google Chrome
[11:09] <thedark> I installed from the available .deb
[11:09] <bazhang> thedark, 3rd party stuff?
[11:10] <thedark> I guess, yeah... Google's deb file... does that mean you can't help me?
[11:10] <Raj007> Dr_Willis: i still have an old entry for an old windows on grub menu, how can i remove that?
[11:10] <dashka> what is the best version in linux
[11:10] <ljsoftnet> in cairo dock can i change the animation settings on, opening and closing applications?
[11:10] <bazhang> thedark, dont know it, try to remove some extension I suppose
[11:10] <javahorn_> Dr_Willis:  next it should ask me username/password during installation?
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> Raj007:   proberly can. but i rarely bother. :)
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> javahorn_:  i think so.. i dont memorize the installer sequence
[11:11] <philinux> dashka: http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> thedark:  chrome fails here.. firefox works also..  looks like its using some fancy javascript stuff
[11:11] <Raj007> Dr_Willis: yeah i got 4 hard drives, so, old entries around one of them. I can live with it, but was just wondering.
[11:11] <bazhang> philinux, he/she meant im client
[11:11] <thedark> could you try opening the free preview comic with chromium, if you have it?
[11:11] <thedark> yeah
[11:12] <philinux> bazhang: dand irc only half the chat I got
[11:12] <thedark> I think it is a javacript issue... can you suggest any fiddling with the options or something?
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> thedark:  google chrome -> 8.0.552.215.
[11:12] <dashka> tkans
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> thedark:  fails.
[11:12] <bazhang> thedark, I'll check with chromium
[11:12] <thedark> cool, thanks a bunch!
[11:13] <thedark> Dr_Willis I see...
[11:13] <Raj007> Dr_Willis: oh, i did forget to thank you btw :)
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> :)
[11:13] <bazhang> thedark, that seems to require an account afaict
[11:13] <thedark> ah...
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> bazhang:  the preview/free feature  shows a few pages for free
[11:14] <bazhang> Dr_Willis, works for you?
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> bazhang:  chrome no.. FF yes
[11:14] <bazhang> aha
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> http://www.netcomics.com/viewer_2006/preview.htm?cuid=117&vuid=1927&vs=1280&is_free=1.
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> http://www.netcomics.com/viewer_2006/preview.htm?cuid=117&vuid=1927&vs=1280&is_free=1   oops...
[11:14] <FloodBot3> Dr_Willis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:14] <bazhang> thedark, so its a flash issue then
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> extra . in a url = bad :)
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> bazhang:  i dont think its usinf flash.
[11:15] <thedark> is it using flash?
[11:15] <bazhang> or some java?
[11:15] <thedark> yeah I think it is javascript, I don't really know though
[11:15] <damian> hello
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> bazhang:  javascript - from what i am reading in the 'view source'
[11:16] <bazhang> thedark, seems to be
[11:16] <bazhang> Dr_Willis, thanks
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> report a bug to the web site. :)
[11:16] <livingdaylight> do we need firewall using ooboontoo ?
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  depends on your needs.. and what you are running
[11:17] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis, running ubuntu
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  for most people..  the answer is 'no'
[11:17] <thedark> I guess I will have to keep Firefox around just for reading some Korean comics then :(
[11:17] <bazhang> livingdaylight, what version are you running
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  running ubuntu.. wow. :) how specific can ya get.. heh..
[11:17] <thedark> thanks for trying everyone
[11:17] <livingdaylight> bazhang, 10.10
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> thedark:  file a bug with the site. or they mey never fix it. :)
[11:17] <bazhang> livingdaylight, pastebin your sources.list please
[11:17] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis, did you mean specific application?
[11:17] <thedark> *nod*
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:   ubuntu can do anything from run on a cell phone to a mega-server farm.. so wether or not you need a firewall depends on how you are using it.
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> and toaster ovens.. yea.. dont forget toaster ovens.
[11:19] <ljsoftnet> in cairo dock can i change the animation settings on, opening and closing applications?
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu in your car -> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/navisurfer-ii-serves-up-ubuntu-in-a-fresh-way/   Just want i need!
[11:20] <LiquidDemocracy> Ich möchte auf Xubuntu Open Office installieren. Wie heißt das Paket?
[11:20] <bazhang> LiquidDemocracy, english please
[11:20] <LiquidDemocracy> Ups. Sorry.
[11:21] <lousygarua> for some reason my ping to router gets 'destination host unreachable' but i can ping the DNS and i can surf the net
[11:21] <LiquidDemocracy> I use Xubuntu and would like to install Open Office. What is the name of the package?
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> the package manager has a search feature. :)
[11:22] <lousygarua> also after i 'route add' the proper route for my LAN it says destination unreacahble for ther outer
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search openoffice
[11:22] <karla> either openoffice.org or libreoffice (?)
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> openoffice.org - office productivity suite
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> silly .org nameing scheme. :)
[11:23] <karla> I always thought so too ;)