[12:00] <soundray> MKA, click with the right mouse button on an area on the panel where there is no icon.
[12:00] <MKA> thats the prob
[12:00] <soundray> MKA, select "Properties" and adjust the panel orientation in the dialog.
[12:00] <MKA> the ians are soo big , that i cant klick on panel wihtout klicking on icon
[12:01] <intelikey> enlarge the panel
[12:01] <soundray> MKA, remove one of the icons temporarily.
[12:01] <MKA> ahee i have used a trick
[12:01] <MKA> ^
[12:01] <Stork> is this a valid shellscript: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7315 for usage './script <screenshotname>'
[12:01] <Troels> Does anyone know where the rc.d file is in Ubuntu?
[12:01] <MKA> i removed an icon from panal
[12:02] <MKA> panel, so i can klick on panel whithout klicking on icon
[12:02] <soundray> MKA, smart :)
[12:02] <intelikey> doesn't have one Troels has a list of them in /etc/rcS.d/
[12:02] <CVirus_NetCafe> I used users-admins and just unchecked the "run adminitrative commands or something" ... and now when i try to run it again and enter my password .. it tells me wrong password .. how can i enable it back ?
[12:02] <intelikey> SysVinit Troels
[12:02] <phimic> hello all
[12:03] <Troels> intelikey: :)
[12:03] <phimic> i have some problem with my new ubuntu breezy on my xcube
[12:03] <sophtpaw> how can i delete a   non "debian file archive"
[12:03] <intelikey> came from slackware did ya Troels ?
[12:03] <robotgeek> phimic: what do you mean?
[12:03] <phimic> it crashes after some minutes, reboot without message
[12:04] <phimic> it has a intel 915G chipset
[12:04] <Troels> intelikey: Red Hat :)
[12:04] <sophtpaw> robotgeek: you mean me?
[12:04] <Troels> Intelikey: You?
[12:04] <phimic> i use the i815 driver from xorg
[12:04] <soundray> CVirus_NetCafe, have you configured any other users on your system?
[12:04] <intelikey> who said i changed ?
[12:04] <robotgeek> phimic: what's a xcube?
[12:04] <intelikey> mdk slack and rh Troels
[12:04] <CVirus_NetCafe> soundray, nope
[12:04] <robotgeek> sophtpaw: what is a "non debian file archive"? details?
[12:05] <phimic> robotgeek: http://www.alternate.de/html/shop/productDetails.html?showTechData=true&artno=SBLB08&#tecData
[12:05] <Troels> intelikey: ;)
[12:05] <scanwinder> i just installed radeon fglrx drivers and, now when i try to open xawtv or kdetv, the screen goes blank, anyone know whats causing that?
[12:05] <soundray> CVirus_NetCafe, hmm, so you've disabled admin privileges for the only user you have on your system...
[12:05] <sophtpaw> robotgeek: err... a program, specifically a game client i installed but with to remove and re install clean
[12:05] <CVirus_NetCafe> soundray, so ?
[12:06] <Stork> is this a valid shellscript: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7315 for usage './script <screenshotname>'
[12:06] <robotgeek> sophtpaw: how did you install it?
[12:06] <sophtpaw> robotgeek: tried sudo dpkg -e <name of program> but came back `glGo' is not a debian format archive
[12:06] <phimic> i dont know if the chipset is the problem but Xorg writes in their website that the i815 driver supports the 915G chipset too
[12:06] <soundray> CVirus_NetCafe, was it "Executing system administrative tasks" that you disabled in the dialog?
[12:06] <sophtpaw> robotgeek: i thought i used dpkg to install it as it was a .deb file
[12:07] <CVirus_NetCafe> soundray, yes
[12:07] <sophtpaw> robotgeek: there was another client which was a tar.gz but that was different
[12:07] <sophtpaw> robotgeek: i cd'd into /usr/games and then sudo dpkg -r or is it -e?
[12:07] <HiddenFly> Im going to shrink my / partition (ext3), what would be a good way to do it?
[12:08] <CVirus_NetCafe> soundray, so ?
[12:08] <robotgeek> sophtpaw: dpkg -e ? usually you install it with dpkg -i and remove using dpkg -r
[12:08] <soundray> CVirus_NetCafe, are you chatting on the system?
[12:08] <intelikey> where does your /usr/bin/pager point ?
[12:08] <intelikey> man is borked
[12:08] <CVirus_NetCafe> soundray, no .. its a friend .. I'm not even a ubuntu user
[12:08] <soundray> CVirus_NetCafe, so you don't have access to it right now?
[12:08] <CVirus_NetCafe> soundray, I'll let him in .. to talk to u
[12:09] <Troels> intelikey: Where're you from?
[12:09] <sophtpaw> robotgeek: ahhh......yes, i did install it with -i and now i see that -r is working too! : ) had the wrong command
[12:09] <intelikey> general question; what is the executable that /usr/bin/pager points to
[12:09] <intelikey> Troels ?
[12:09] <robotgeek> hey bungle , long time :)
[12:09] <sophtpaw> robotgeek: what is the protocol for removing tar.gz files?
[12:10] <intelikey> anybody ?
[12:10] <intelikey> general question; what is the executable that /usr/bin/pager points to
[12:10] <Troels> intelikey: I've always wanted to try out MIXAL.
[12:11] <intelikey> never heard of it Troels
[12:11] <soundray> intelikey, it points to /etc/alternatives/pager, which in turn points to /usr/bin/less by default
[12:11] <intelikey> thank you soundray
[12:11] <tafsen> where can I get presets for the eql. to BMP?
[12:11] <Troels> intelikey: But weren't you using gnu mdk?
[12:11] <intelikey> mdk=mandrake
[12:12] <Troels> Never heard it like that.
[12:12] <intelikey> sorry.
[12:12] <Stork> does anyone here know how to get the window id of a window from the command line?
[12:12] <soundray> intelikey, check out 'update-alternatives --display pager'
[12:12] <intelikey> no alternatives here mate
[12:13] <Troels> intelikey: It's easy to confuse mdk with mdk :P
[12:13] <intelikey> yes i can see how it would be..... kinda like confusing gentoo with gentoo isn't it.
[12:14] <Troels> intelikey: Indeed.
[12:14] <intelikey> i like gentoo but i've never used gentoo  slow modem and slow machines prevent such a thing.
[12:15] <Ng> Stork: xwininfo
[12:15] <Troels> I see
[12:15] <Stork> Ng, that requires you to click on the window
[12:15] <Ng> that it does
[12:15] <Stork> Ng, which i can't do :\
[12:16] <Ng> Stork: how about xlsclients -l?
[12:16] <soundray> Stork, you can display all windows' info with 'xwininfo -root -children' -- no clicking needed
[12:16] <soundray> Ng: cool!
[12:17] <Stork> darn
[12:17] <Stork> i can't see that from the command line as there's no scrolling
[12:18] <intelikey> ok still attempting to use 'openvt' in a sysvinit script as a form of auto-login.   will it work ?
[12:18] <intelikey> no scrolling ?
[12:18] <intelikey> sure there is.
[12:18] <Ng> Stork: command line? no scrolling? are you using a console? if so alt-pageup should work, or you can pipe the command into more
[12:18] <intelikey> shift page up
[12:18] <katie_> where can i get codecs to play .wmv?
[12:19] <Ng> erk yeah, shift, not alt ;)
[12:19] <Stork> aha
[12:19] <Ng> katie_: see the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[12:19] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell katie_ about codecs
[12:19] <Nameeater> why am I getting these damned apt/list problems: http://pastebin.com/511284
[12:19] <Stork> so using one of those commands (xlsclients -l or xwininfo -root -children) i can get the name/id of my game window?
[12:19] <intelikey> stork if you switch tty's it clears the buffer tho
[12:19] <katie_> !easysource
[12:19] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:20] <crimsun> mark__: pong
[12:20] <intelikey> :)
[12:21] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: can you please paste your full sources list on pastebin
[12:21] <intelikey> ok testing..... brb
[12:21] <Nameeater> http://pastebin.com/511287
[12:22] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: the first line the one that has cdrom in it put a # infront of it or get rid of it totally
[12:23] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: also take the # away from line number 37 please
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: same with line 30
[12:24] <Ng> isnt 37 covered by 34?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: no leave line 30 the way it is :( i didnt see the extra line there
[12:24] <Nameeater> isn't 37 covered by 34?
[12:24] <Nameeater> or do they have to be 2 seperate lines
[12:24] <gnomefreak> ng
[12:25] <gnomefreak> no its not
[12:25] <gnomefreak> ones restricted
[12:25] <Ng> breezy-security universe
[12:25] <gnomefreak> one isnt
[12:25] <Nameeater> oh rightt
[12:25] <Nameeater> didn't know that
[12:25] <Ng> both list universe
[12:25] <Ng> therefore 37 is covered by 34
[12:25] <Ng> I was only asking the question rhetorically ;)
[12:25] <enyc> Hrrrrm
[12:25] <enyc> Are there any updated breezy / breezy-server images available [?]
[12:25] <Nameeater> still getting errors ;/
[12:26] <enyc> i.e. with updates / security patches etc. in the image [?]
[12:26] <gnomefreak> i would think restricted main is different that than security
[12:26] <intelikey> well to answer the question i asked eariler  YES! it will work.      an openvt command in any init script will open root consoles.    that may be considered a bug.
[12:26] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: did you save run sudo apt-get update and what errors are you getting?
[12:27] <soundray> intelikey, why is that a bug?
[12:27] <intelikey> i said it may be considered a bug,  i did not call it a bug.
[12:27] <Nameeater> http://pastebin.com/511292
[12:27] <soundray> intelikey, okay, why may it be considered a bug?
[12:27] <Ng> gnomefreak: restricted is just another "channel" like main/universe/multiverse
[12:27] <gnomefreak> oh yeah Nameeater that last one is a very very bad idea to have in there
[12:27] <arrinmurr> enyc: i don't think so
[12:27] <intelikey> it is a security risk
[12:28] <enyc> arrinmurr: kk
[12:28] <Nameeater> the xmms2 one?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:28] <zodiaq> im sorry to ask... but could anyone tell me what application i should use to see what dnsservers has been handed to me via dhcp?
[12:28] <Storkme> damn it
[12:28] <enyc> arrinmurr: seems a shame really... would make sense for there to be something like that.. particuarly for dapper [long maintenance]
[12:28] <Nameeater> well they do say it 'appears' to work :/
[12:28] <gnomefreak> Nameeater:  did you put a # infront of the cdrom repo?
[12:28] <Storkme> soundray, Ng, specifying the id didn't work either :|
[12:28] <Ng> intelikey: init runs as root and can spawn shells at will, you should only be getting init scripts from trusted sources, so it's no more a security risk than anything else
[12:28] <soundray> intelikey, is that because it is so easy to smuggle openvt commands in init scripts, or because it is so easy to run an initscript as a non-privileged user?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: it may work but you should not use debian repos in ubuntu
[12:29] <Nameeater> gnomefreak: yes
[12:29] <Nameeater> ok
[12:29] <gnomefreak> they can and will break your system
[12:29] <arrinmurr> enyc: yeah, i've thought about it too sometimes, as there are quite nasty problems in default kubuntu install for example
[12:29] <intelikey> soundray because pam doesn't catch it.
[12:30] <Ng> intelikey: you know you can reboot any stock ubuntu machine and get a root shell just by picking the recovery console option in grub, right?
[12:30] <Ng> intelikey: pam is only involved where authentication is required. init falls outside that
[12:31] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: can i please have your updaed sourceslist
[12:31] <intelikey> ng i know how to use init=/bin/bash   but that is not the point.
[12:31] <Ng> intelikey: I don't mean that, the specific recovery option puts you in a root shell. either way non-root users can't install init scripts, so your point is moot imo
[12:31] <Nameeater> http://pastebin.com/511294
[12:32] <enyc> arrinmurr: whats wrong in kubuntu ?
[12:32] <intelikey> ng no not if you set security to requite a password it doesn't
[12:32] <enyc> arrinmurr: ubuntu 5.10 has a pmountd that meanns FDD mount not work properly... unless you install 'breezy-backports' version...
[12:33] <intelikey> but there is no security catch for this.   if you just slip a 'sulogin' in an init script you still have to type the password.  this circumvents that.
[12:33] <gnomefreak> name ok try putting a # infront of line 35 save than run sudo apt-get update again
[12:33] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: ^^^
[12:34] <Ng> intelikey: how on earth are you just going to slip an sulogin into an init script?
[12:34] <Ng> intelikey: init scripts are only modifyable by root
[12:34] <intelikey> same way you get this line in ????
[12:34] <Nameeater> gnomefreak: nope, still giving me grief
[12:35] <Ng> intelikey: eh?
[12:35] <Nameeater> if i wack it in front of line 32 its dandy, but that leaves me securityless :/
[12:35] <Storkme> how can i do: 'if (argument 2 is given) do this, otherwise do this)' in shellscripting?
[12:36] <intelikey> in ubuntu you just look at the name of someone in this channel,  exploit their irc client and use sudo  because they have it timed and the password is still good   lol
[12:36] <katie_> whats plf and cipherfunk?
[12:36] <robotgeek> intelikey: haha, scan me :)
[12:36] <Ng> intelikey: no
[12:36] <soundray> intelikey, somehow I don't believe that you've exposed a real bug or security hole.
[12:36] <intelikey> robotgeek not you.  one of these noobs
[12:36] <Ng> intelikey: even if you do that, adding a root shell to their init script won't help you at all.
[12:37] <Ng> and their sudo access won't be available to you either
[12:37] <Storkme> how can i do: 'if (argument 2 is given) do this, otherwise do this)' in shellscripting?
[12:37] <Ng> it doesn't cross terminals
[12:37] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: ok give me one sec to find something :)
[12:37] <katie_> nm
[12:37] <robotgeek> Storkme: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[12:38] <intelikey> it does when like the guy said eariler, 'i can log out and back in and it still doesn't ask for my password when i sudo'   lol
[12:38] <arrinmurr> enyc: well, the spca5xx module providing support for many usb-webcams is broken (the whole computer freezes when trying to access the webcam, but this is ofcourse not only kubuntu problem), and entering in administrator mode doesn't work. bot of these can be fixed, but it's not nice that many new users have to deal with those problems :/
[12:39] <intelikey> it's still a security hole,  no matter how small.  it's a hole.
[12:39] <Ng> intelikey: no
[12:39] <arrinmurr> enyc: err.. i mean entering administrator mode in the graphical kde configuration tool
[12:39] <Ng> intelikey: run "sudo ls" in two terminals, both will ask you for your password
[12:39] <Storkme> is there any way to move back to xserver from the command line without using alt+F7 ?
[12:39] <intelikey> not me they wont.
[12:39] <intelikey> i don't do sudo.
[12:39] <Ng> intelikey: I am running a stock install and they both ask me
[12:40] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: do you want multimedia repos so you can get rid of the xmms repo?
[12:40] <soundray> arrinmurr, 1) spca5xx works fine here. 2) root access is disabled by design, and it's a good decision, too.
[12:40] <Nameeater> sure ok, tho i have commented it out
[12:40] <intelikey> i'm running a server install and sudo is only set up for root....  so what.
[12:40] <brenner> Storkme: startx
[12:40] <Storkme> awesome
[12:41] <arrinmurr> soundray: 1) then you must have done something to it, or you're running a newer kernel, or you're not using it at all or something 2) read again what i said
[12:41] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: here replace your list with this one :) http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:42] <soundray> arrinmurr, yes I am using it. On reading your line above again, I still cannot see anything that needs fixing.
[12:42] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: you can put a # infront of the src ones if you like
[12:42] <Coyctecm> where I have to put export PATH command if I want to ~/bin to be in path?
[12:42] <theine> Coyctecm, are you using gnome?
[12:43] <Coyctecm> yes
[12:43] <intelikey> Coyctecm local  $HOME/.bashrc   global  /etc/profile
[12:43] <Coyctecm> ok, thanks
[12:43] <arrinmurr> soundray: 2) in default kubuntu breezy install, when you take - for example - k menu -> system settings -> Administrator Mode.. , and enter your password, it doesn't work
[12:43] <theine> Coyctecm, put "export PATH=${HOME}/bin:${PATH}" in ~/.gnomerc
[12:43] <intelikey> yeah $HOME/.gnomerc  for the gui
[12:44] <Coyctecm> ok :)
[12:44] <arrinmurr> soundray: ehm... i mean k menu -> system settings -> login manager -> Administrator Mode.. , and enter your password, it doesn't work
[12:44] <Storkme> brenner, that didn't work
[12:44] <Storkme> is there any way to move back to xserver from the command line without using alt+F7 ?
[12:44] <theine> intelikey, and the terminal too (if launched under gnome)
[12:44] <Ng> Storkme: chvt 7
[12:44] <fid> hey, i'm brand new to ubuntu...  i assume installing a debian package (or adding a debian repository) isn't really supported?
[12:44] <Ng> fid: correct
[12:45] <gnomefreak> fid: bad idea :)
[12:45] <Ng> fid: it/they may work, but you should be careful and think carefully if you are going to try it
[12:45] <gnomefreak> fid: what package did you want?
[12:45] <fid> i'm trying to install opera.  on opera's download page, i select ubuntu, and it gives me a .deb file.  i can't install it though, it claims it's broken
[12:45] <Ng> something that's pretty isolated like opera should be ok
[12:45] <giftnudel> fid, there might be unresolved dependencies
[12:45] <fid> i tried 'dpkg -i operabiglongname.deb'
[12:45] <gnomefreak> fid: go to this link and add the opera repo
[12:45] <Ng> can you paste the exact error in a pastebin?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[12:45] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:45] <intelikey> theine yeah but outside of gnome it needs in /etc/profile or a ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc   else you wont have it.   i always use  /etc/profile
[12:45] <Ng> or do that :)
[12:46] <crimsun> fid: it probably wants libqt3-mt
[12:46] <Nameeater> there is a very good page on the wiki for getting Opera up and running
[12:46] <crimsun> fid: you should be able to fix that with: sudo apt-get -f install
[12:46] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: any errors?
[12:47] <katie_> I installed the codecs, but still doesn't work, I tried using Xine and vlc
[12:47] <fid> crimsun: so, do "apt-get -f install" instead of "dpkg -i"?
[12:47] <theine> intelikey, will setting the path in /etc/profile make Gnome aware of it? I know that setting it in ~/.bash{rc,_profile} doesn't
[12:47] <boostdave> Having some trouble with the Dapper live CD (flight-2): it doesn't recognize my CD-Rom drive.  Anyone know if flight-3 will be better?
[12:47] <katie_> mplayer
[12:47] <crimsun> fid: if you've already done the dpkg -i [..] , yes
[12:47] <gnomefreak> fid thats before dpkg -i
[12:47] <crimsun> fid: just, sudo apt-get -f install
[12:47] <Ng> katie_: it's possible that it's a newer wmv that isn't able to be played - does mplayer spit out any obvious looking errors?
[12:47] <Nameeater> gnomefreak: yes :(
[12:47] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: are they gpg errors?
[12:48] <fid> ok, before coming on, i tried the dpkg -i.  it gave an error, so I then removed opera using synaptic.  so as of now, the .deb file is not installed
[12:48] <Nameeater> only one way, which was unrelated to my security problem
[12:48] <Nameeater> which I'm still getting
[12:48] <gnomefreak> ok Nameeater what country are you in?
[12:48] <Nameeater> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  This HTTP server has broken range support
[12:48] <fid> do i do the "dpkg -i" first, or just the "apt-get -f install"?
[12:48] <Nameeater> new zealand
[12:48] <crimsun> fid: no, you should ``dpkg -i opera[..] .deb'' now. It will fail, so then you ``sudo apt-get -f install''.
[12:48] <fid> ok, let me give that a try
[12:48] <katie_> ProcessInputError  r:0x80004005=-2147467259 (keyframe: 1)
[12:48] <katie_> ProcessInputError  r:0x80004005=-2147467259 (keyframe: 1)??,?% 0 0 48%
[12:49] <Ng> katie_: could you paste the whole output to a pastebin?
[12:49] <crimsun> Nameeater: please try another mirror
[12:49] <crimsun> Nameeater: for instance, from .au
[12:49] <katie_> !pastebin
[12:49] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:49] <Seveas> Nameeater, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/security*
[12:49] <Seveas> and retry
[12:49] <gnomefreak> crimsun: i was thinking that but with the securty you cant add country code can you?
[12:50] <fid> ok, it looks like it's downloading the dependencies (yeah, it looks like it needed libqt)
[12:50] <gnomefreak> fid it does it also need motif
[12:50] <fid> excellent, it looks like it's up and running!
[12:51] <katie_> oh wait
[12:51] <katie_> im getting colours
[12:51] <fid> gnomefreak: yeah, when starting it gave an error about motif
[12:51] <crimsun> motif is in multiverse
[12:51] <gnomefreak> fid:  yeah it took me like 3 weeks to figure out wth motif was :(
[12:51] <Storkme> i think i broke my computer :\
[12:51] <katie_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7316
[12:51] <Storkme> i just ran my script
[12:51] <Storkme> and nothing works
[12:51] <fid> so i just do an "apt-get install motif"?
[12:52] <Nameeater> Seveas: that didn't work, tried that before too (repeated just in case)
[12:52] <Storkme> i'd show you what it is but i can't upload it
[12:52] <gnomefreak> fid: i use the OOo motif in synaptic  i cant remember the name of it
[12:52] <crimsun> fid: do you have multiverse enabled?
[12:52] <katie_> Ng, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7316
[12:52] <katie_> I think it's loading the wrong codecs...
[12:52] <Ng> katie_: hmm, I'm not sure, but it does look like it doesn't like it. that does seem to happen with some wmv's unfortunately ;/
[12:52] <fid> crimsun: i have no idea, so i'm going to say "no" ;-)
[12:53] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell fid about multiverse
[12:53] <katie_> well that sucks
[12:53] <crimsun> fid: apt-cache policy libmotif3|grep 500
[12:53] <deefzi> fid, running opera? :-)
[12:54] <P3L|C4N0> hi people+
[12:54] <fid> deefzi: i am now!
[12:54] <j2daosh> can someone tell me if this is right? 5 04 10,20 * * /usr/sbin/ddclient > /home/josh/ddclient.out
[12:54] <j2daosh>  .....cron runs that script at 5 minutes past the 4th hour on days 10 and 20 every month of every year and writes an output to /home/josh/ddclient.out... right?
[12:54] <deefzi> fid, had the same problems few days ago: uncomment multiverse repositories and install lesstif2
[12:54] <deefzi> fid, worked for me.
[12:54] <fid> ok, i'll check the wiki about multiverse/etc
[12:55] <crimsun> j2daosh: right, and the rest (stderr) will be mailed to you
[12:55] <crimsun> fid: note that lesstif2 is in universe, not multiverse.
[12:55] <j2daosh> stderr? and that term means what?
[12:57] <crimsun> j2daosh: you'll find a standard Google search (stdout and stderr file descriptors) helpful, or read the bash man page
[12:57] <Nameeater> hmm well I dunno what to do, maybe it will work tommorow
[12:58] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: add your country code infront of archive so it looks kinda like us.archive.ubuntu
[12:58] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: to all but the securty ones
[12:58] <Nameeater> but the problem is security :(
[12:58] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: i understand that
[12:58] <ikla> ubuntu work really well ?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: if im not mistaken the securty ones get the info from the other ones
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ikla: ofcourse it does :)
[12:59] <Nameeater> interesting
[01:00] <ikla> how uptodate are packages like X etc. ?
[01:00] <Nameeater> will soon find out
[01:00] <gnomefreak> ikla: about as up to date as you can get
[01:00] <ikla> gnomefreak, system layout nice or all bloated and nasty ? :)
[01:00] <gnomefreak> ikla: ubuntu is released in 6 month intervals so they are more upto date than most distros
[01:00] <ikla> ah
[01:01] <gnomefreak> ikla: depends what you mean by bloated if you mean desktop wise there are many to choose from from gnome-kde-fluxbox
[01:02] <Nameeater> fluxbox used to stall on startup when i was stuck on my old pc, couldn't be bothered working out why
[01:03] <Stork> ffs
[01:04] <gniknomis> What is the best WYSIWYG html editor for ubuntu?
[01:04] <brenner> Stork: are you Storkme?
[01:04] <Stork> when trying to do 'xwininfo -root -children', i get the error: "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server" "Xlib: No protocol specified"
[01:04] <Stork> yes, i am
[01:05] <arrinmurr> gniknomis: nvu ?
[01:05] <gniknomis> arrinmurr: thanks for that
[01:06] <Stork> when trying to do 'xwininfo -root -children', i get the error: "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server" "Xlib: No protocol specified"
[01:06] <brenner> Stork: were you looking to paste stuff?  there's a pastebin script that you can redirect output to apparently
[01:06] <gnudreamer> is there an option to use lilo instead of grub?
[01:06] <Stork> brenner, nope
[01:06] <gnudreamer> I'm geting ready to install ubuntu on my Mom's computer, I'd like to keep Windows on the drive
[01:06] <gnomefreak> gnudreamer: not by default you have to install lilo
[01:07] <Stork> !!WTF:!!?!?!?!!
[01:07] <ubotu> Stork: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:07] <gnudreamer> How would I do that before installation?
[01:07] <Stork> arg this sucks
[01:07] <gnudreamer> Does grub support mulit boot os?
[01:07] <gnudreamer> multi
[01:07] <gnomefreak> gnudreamer: i dont think you can
[01:07] <gnomefreak> gnudreamer: yes
[01:07] <gnomefreak> grub and lilo do the same thing
[01:08] <brenner> i remember if you select 'go back' during the installation, a menu pops up and there was something about lilo there
[01:08] <gnudreamer> When I install Ubuntu, do I have to patition, or can I leave the Windows info were it is
[01:08] <Stork> OH MY GOD!
[01:08] <gnomefreak> i never went back :(
[01:08] <Stork> this isn't fair
[01:09] <shawkins> hello, I installed windows a few days ago for a temp solution for a game, after installing it and booting into kubuntu.... something came up about a possible corrupt superblock, said to use e2fsck... anyone know what to do?
[01:09] <Stork> Ng, you there?
[01:09] <Ng> yep
[01:09] <gnudreamer> me either, this will be my second ubu install, Fedora 4 was a real antagonist it took three times to get it up
[01:09] <Stork> Ng, i wrote a shell script to *try* and make it easier to take screenshots from the command line, and it's giving me errors
[01:09] <gnudreamer> It need a viagra boot loader
[01:10] <brenner> gnudreamer: the installer has parted functionality.  you should be able to  resize/delete/add partitions through that
[01:10] <overrider> dumb question: when i install on 512mb ram, and tomorrow upgrade to 2gb of ram, doesnt matter to the system right? i mean in a sense that when i install windows on an asus motherboard, then exchange the board to a gigabit one, it might cause trouble
[01:10] <Ng> Stork: can you paste it to a pastebin?
[01:10] <robotgeek> Stork: yeah, that would be a good idea
[01:10] <Stork> will do
[01:10] <brenner> ubotu: tell gnudreamer about dualboot
[01:10] <Nameeater> gnomefreak: now I am just left with Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch :(
[01:10] <Ng> overrider: it should be fine
[01:10] <gnudreamer> ty brenner
[01:11] <Ng> overrider: linux tends to be much less upset by major hardware changes
[01:11] <robotgeek> Stork: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TakingScreenshots , no script there though
[01:12] <overrider> Ng, ok thanks, i was just wondering if maybe it installs programs using using certain system parameters, such as compiling differently for different cpu`s and such...
[01:12] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: i think its more server fault than anything the other night the country code fixed it for someone in au
[01:12] <Nameeater> wierd :<
[01:12] <Ng> overrider: not really. you might have to tweak a few things, but generally it tries to load the drivers for things it finds at bootup
[01:13] <overrider> cool
[01:14] <Nameeater> heh now that stat stuff is back woo, oh well if it doesn't work tommorow i'll be paying another visit x)
[01:14] <c1ru> hi
[01:14] <c1ru> hi all
[01:15] <Storkme> Ng, robotgeek, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7318
[01:15] <thenuke> Hey, what do you suggest, how could I test few old harddisks before trying to install ubuntu with RAID on them?
[01:16] <Ng> thenuke: do they support SMART?
[01:16] <Ng> smartmontools can run a long self-test routing on SMART compatible disks that should give you an idea of their health
[01:16] <thenuke> Ng: I dont know, they are like ~1-4GB hd's.. if that indicates anything about smart :)
[01:17] <Ng> erk, probably not then ;)
[01:17] <Ng> thenuke: you could dd to/from them for a while I spose ;)
[01:17] <thenuke> Ng: yes, I was thinking about using damn small linux and using badblocks -test
[01:18] <robotgeek> Stork: try export DISPLAY=:0.0
[01:19] <Ng> thenuke: actually yeah that's not a bad idea t all
[01:19] <Storkme> will do
[01:20] <Stork> robotgeek, same error
[01:20] <MEPHiST0> hi dudes
[01:21] <MEPHiST0> i have one issue with breezy... nautilus filecopy performance when copying from a smb share is horrible (1minute for a 8mb file). if i mount it with smbmount and copy in the shell - everything goes fine
[01:21] <MEPHiST0> is this a known issue?
[01:22] <gnudreamer> so grub was chosen as the boot loader for a reason...what advantages does it have over lilo?
[01:22] <Storkme> Ng, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7318 -- any ideas?
[01:23] <Storkme> i have an idea
[01:23] <Ng> Storkme: you need to allow things running outside X to connect to it. it's a small security risk, but running "xhost +" inside X will quickly solve it
[01:23] <tafsen> If I wan't to set up a virtual server, can I use xen to this?
[01:23] <Storkme> ok
[01:24] <robotgeek> Storkme: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7319
[01:26] <brenner> gnudreamer: http://lwn.net/Articles/89772/
[01:27] <brenner> gnudreamer: it looks like one of those apples vs oranges things though
[01:27] <Stork> thanks Ng that worked
[01:27] <lowman62> g'morn/g'aftnoon/g'evenin tech support room
[01:33] <Stork> Ng, after all that, i've decided to write a program in java to take the screenshots for me :)
[01:33] <Ng> :o
[01:33] <Stork> since i have two computes next to eachother, i'll make one of them tell the other when i want a screenshot taken
[01:34] <th0mz> hi
[01:34] <th0mz> i'm trying to get the Canon 'secure printing' working. Anybody has any clue to make this working ? Canon gives .ppt files but the options doesnt seems to be there. Any clue some1 please ?
[01:36] <Stork> how do i find out my lan ip again?
[01:36] <iRob> stoneage, ifconfig
[01:37] <gnudreamer> So what do you think about putting Grub/Ubuntu on a seperate partition? Will it still affect the MBR? I just want my mom to have an easy choice at boot, between WINblowz and Ubu.
[01:37] <mats> Hello.
[01:37] <mats> Do you guys support java problems here too?
[01:38] <mats> Cause im getting a java problem on ubuntu
[01:38] <iRob> gnudreamer, you can put grub on mbr and be able to boot both win and linux
[01:38] <codyro> Mats.. if it's a programming question for JAVA I presume should goto #java.. if it's error related to a application on Ubuntu ask away ? :]
[01:38] <mats> Allrigh Codryo. Its not a ubuntu application. But thanks for the link
[01:38] <scenestar> hi room
[01:39] <scenestar> i have a bit of a crazy question
[01:39] <gnudreamer> iRob so it looks pretty? I only have a dual boot laptop and it is with Lilo
[01:39] <scenestar> you know how gnome has 4 desktops right
[01:39] <nbound> scenestar, no we are all blind :P
[01:39] <scenestar> is there any possibillity i can turn one of them into a fullscreen virtual machine
[01:40] <nbound> scenestar, just run ur VM app in that desktop and tell it to always run ther
[01:40] <gnomefreak> :) it works
[01:40] <scenestar> is there a x11 conf for that?
[01:41] <brenner> gnudreamer: 5 words: white text on black background :)
[01:41] <nbound> scenestar, to move it to a workspace just right click on it in the taskbar
[01:41] <gnudreamer> COOL
[01:41] <gnudreamer> I love that schema
[01:41] <scenestar> hmmm
[01:41] <scenestar> nevermind
[01:41] <brenner> gnudreamer: i wouldn't call it pretty, but it does the job...who spends more than 10 seconds at their bootloader anyway?
[01:41] <scenestar> thats jsut a fugley hack
[01:41] <iRob> gnudreamer, i'm not sure what you're asking.  If you install ubuntu on a seperate partition you can install grub in the MBR and configure it to boot either OS.  you won't need lilo anymore
[01:41] <scenestar> i mean as in a bsd jail like idea
[01:41] <nbound> scenestar, to make it always load there, im sure u can somehow
[01:41] <scenestar> uhm
[01:42] <scenestar> thats not what i mean
[01:42] <scenestar> t
[01:42] <brenner> gnomefreak: so you're a.k.a bootloaderfreak?
[01:42] <gnudreamer> i just want to make sure that if she decided to ugrade windoze I can "fix" problems
[01:42] <nbound> scenestar, well they are just workspaces what else could u have meant?
[01:42] <gnomefreak> lol i should be :)
[01:42] <scenestar> as in: have one screen dedicated to an independant machine
[01:43] <scenestar> as in totally integrated
[01:43] <scenestar> sorta like a virtual console
[01:43] <nbound> scenestar, heh no i dont think so, they are just extra space
[01:43] <scenestar> ugh
[01:43] <katie_> why isnt serpentine working? it says to add music files, i try and open an mp3 and it just doenst bother adding it?
[01:43] <katie_> any ideas?
[01:43] <scenestar> fsck
[01:43] <tristan> dsl g fait une fausse manip
[01:43] <scenestar> now i have to do it myself
[01:44] <nbound> !fr
[01:44] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[01:44] <gnudreamer> tr k3b
[01:44] <gnudreamer> tr k3b
[01:44] <gnudreamer> my y key is finicky
[01:45] <gnudreamer> katie: try k3b it's much more flexible
[01:45] <brenner> gnudreamer: the only "problem" you might have is when she upgrades windows, it overwrites the mbr and you can't boot into ubuntu.  that problem is easily resolved.
[01:47] <gnudreamer> Well, this leads me to a seperate isssue, I want to put ubuntu on my laptop which has DamnSmall installed, I want to delete DSL but fear issues in the MBR
[01:47] <codyro> Just make a grub boot disk for quick fix
[01:47] <gnudreamer> It uses lilo
[01:47] <codyro> Lilo boot will do aswell
[01:47] <codyro> ;]
[01:47] <gnudreamer> Ok grub boot disk will be made
[01:47] <nbound> gnudreamer, just use the ubuntu install disk to install on it
[01:47] <codyro> ^ can do that too
[01:47] <katie_> hrm
[01:47] <codyro> Just takes longer to get to the screen
[01:47] <katie_> okay, i think it worked
[01:47] <codyro> (patience is not a virtue)
[01:47] <gnudreamer> nbound which issue are you addressing?
[01:48] <codyro> bootloader I believe
[01:48] <nbound> the dsl one
[01:48] <codyro> Oh :[
[01:48] <nbound> gnudreamer, it will overwrite the mbr with grub and we'll all be happy :)
[01:48] <gnudreamer> oh so it won't affect my non-ntfs install of xp then?
[01:49] <nbound> ohhh...
[01:49] <nbound> u didnt meantion that
[01:49] <gnudreamer> seperate issue from my mothers new machine
[01:49] <nbound> well it shouldnt... u just have to get grub to add a menu option for it
[01:49] <nbound> smb
[01:49] <nbound> oops
[01:49] <gnudreamer> I'm working on three seperate boxes
[01:50] <gnudreamer> I multi task
[01:50] <nbound> lol
[01:50] <selinium> hi all, glxgears does not report the fps rate on my sytem any more? Is this usual?
[01:50] <Stork> yes
[01:50] <Stork> use glxgears -printfps
[01:51] <selinium> Stork, cheers!!
[01:51] <Stork> no problem
[01:51] <brenner> Stork: bah, where'd you find that option?  i told someone there was one and they wouldn't believe me.
[01:52] <Stork> brenner, googled for a while
[01:52] <nbound> which samba package do i install in synaptic if i wanna acces win puters
[01:52] <gnudreamer> the one I'm irc'ing on is my future pvr, audio workstation, next is my laptop, finally mom's dual boot astrology email machine
[01:52] <Stork> there's one like, -iacknowledgethatthisisatoolandnotabenchmark too
[01:52] <katie_> aww
[01:52] <katie_> my doggy sleepin
[01:52] <Ng> you can also use glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark ;)
[01:52] <Ng> yeah
[01:52] <Stork> heh
[01:53] <olicat> hi all. does anyone know how i can tell wget to save its files in a certain location?
[01:53] <selinium> Stork Ng: ROFL now that is waht I call a flag!
[01:53] <gnudreamer> pvr won't play nice with my tv card, laptop has dsl lilo winxp non ntfs, mom's machine should be fine
[01:53] <Stork> :)
[01:53] <gnudreamer> All will run Ubuntu
[01:54] <gnudreamer> laptop is dual bot, moms is dual boot. right now I'm deciding which boot loader will cause the least problems during Upgrades I think grub is king
[01:54] <robotgeek> Stork: i'm now inspired to write a nicer shell script
[01:55] <Stork> ooh?
[01:55] <Stork> for what robotgeek
[01:55] <cyphase> wow
[01:56] <cyphase> just now i was booting up, and i was wondering if there were going to be anymore Breezy kernel updates
[01:56] <cyphase> then i get the update icon in my tray
[01:56] <cyphase> new kernel :)
[01:56] <robotgeek> Stork: for the screenshottaking
[01:56] <Stork> i solved my problem by writing a server that waits for incoming connections, then takes screenshots when it recieves the screenshot name
[01:56] <Stork> so on my other pc, i just run the client
[01:56] <cyphase> I Think, It Is
[01:56] <cyphase> ;)
[01:57] <Stork> it works very well
[01:57] <robotgeek> Stork: cool, i am just going to reinvent the wheel, i think
[01:57] <Stork> heh
[02:00] <nbound> hmmm whoever was just talkin bout kernel updates: 2.6.12-10.26 just came up for me
[02:00] <LoPMX> how can i mail many users with ActionMailer?
[02:01] <nbound> To<EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:02] <overrider> for some reason my grub doesnt show up when i switch on the computer. it turns on only when done loading the os selected (blindly) in grub. the monitor is a dvi connected lcd screen to an at radeon9800 pro card. when using vga monitor all is fine. how can i make it so my pc uses dvi already at bootup? i cant seem to find the option in the bios...
[02:02] <lowman62> To: <comma seperated list> ?
[02:02] <lowman62> :P
[02:03] <nbound> overrider, ur vid card should output to everything before the driver is loaded
[02:03] <tristan> HELP
[02:03] <nbound> for example if i had a TV, CRT, and my LCD, all should receive output at boot and then when u hit windows turn off
[02:04] <mephis1987> hello
[02:04] <nbound> tristan, ask a question first ;)
[02:04] <mephis1987> I have a question
[02:04] <nbound> mephis1987, just ask :)
[02:04] <tristan> I cannot start my gnom session because it says that there is a trouble upon loading  or when saving my gnome_segv. So I am now using Xterm to speak to you
[02:04] <mephis1987> I have a .chm file
[02:04] <mephis1987> it s my ebooks
[02:04] <mephis1987> do u know any programme that runs it on ubuntu ?
[02:05] <nbound> tristan, tryed reconfiguring x?
[02:05] <nbound> mephis1987, tryed searching ebook in synaptic?
[02:05] <mephis1987> oh
[02:05] <overrider> nbound, its a bummer i know. but my screen is black during bios post messages and grub, until it reaches either ubuntu or windows...i assume if i dont find an option in the bios, or a jumper on the card i am hooped huh?
[02:05] <mephis1987> how can i read .chm files ?
[02:05] <tristan> nbound : no. I'll try that. Command is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg, right?
[02:05] <nbound> mephis1987, i just told you
[02:06] <nbound> ubotu tell tristan about xorg
[02:06] <nbound> :)
[02:06] <mephis1987> yeah
[02:06] <tristan> nbound : no. I'll try that. Command is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver, maybe...
[02:06] <lowman62> mephis1987: GnoCHM
[02:06] <stian> can anyone explain to me how i set a password for my mysql server in ubuntu? im new to this, and googling havent gotten me anywhere (yet anyways)
[02:06] <mephis1987> let me try
[02:06] <nbound> overrider, thats just weird hence why i dont like ati, there cards always have weird quirks
[02:06] <overrider> stian, mysqladmin -u root -p password 'yourpassword'
[02:07] <Myconid3> nbound: i concur!
[02:07] <lowman62> mephis1987: read this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-81510.html
[02:07] <nbound> Myconid3, is that the one where u agree? :)
[02:07] <Myconid3> no, its the one where you send me a new video card
[02:08] <stian> overrider, i just get mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[02:08] <stian> error: 'Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES)'
[02:08] <lowman62> Myconid3: that was a cool movie :P
[02:08] <nbound> Myconid3, is the 2 7800 512MB GTX's in it for me?
[02:08] <overrider> stian, so maybe there is already a password set?
[02:08] <nbound> there*
[02:09] <mephis1987> yeah
[02:09] <mephis1987> i made it
[02:09] <mephis1987> thanks a lot
[02:09] <mephis1987> all of you :D
[02:09] <lowman62> stian: did you start mysql?
[02:09] <overrider> lowman62, since it says access denied i think mysql is running, but wrong password
[02:10] <cyphase> Does anyone know if anyone is working on a kind of introduction program for Ubuntu. Something that would explain the basic things to new user..
[02:10] <nbound> cyphase, you'll pick it up quick there isnt much to learn
[02:10] <cyphase> ...
[02:10] <nbound> and we are always here
[02:10] <cyphase> nbound, not for me
[02:10] <nbound> well not ALWAYS
[02:10] <nbound> but u get it :P
[02:11] <cyphase> i've been uing Ubuntu since Warty :)
[02:11] <cyphase> using*
[02:11] <stian> yes, i think mysql is started
[02:11] <nbound> cyphase, ive been using ubuntu a week, and i help more than i receive help here
[02:11] <stian> but just to be sure
[02:11] <stian> how do you propose i do it?
[02:11] <stian> start it i mean (totally new here)
[02:12] <scanwinder> does anyone know what package contains libXm.so.3 ?
[02:12] <cyphase> nbound, well that's good :P
[02:12] <nbound> hehe
[02:13] <lowman62> stian: check to see how many mysql config files you have ...if you have more than one rename one to my.conf and edit it appropriately
[02:13] <cyphase> but i meant mostly for people coming from other operating systems (read windows)
[02:13] <davea> Caught a null pointer dereference in the kernel of Dapper Live CD 3 while trying to start up network interfaces.  Can someone give me guidance about how to report this?
[02:13] <redguy> scanwinder: sec
[02:13] <nbound> scanwinder, google it ;) im sure someone would have made a package invetory somewhere
[02:13] <brenner> cyphase: so sort of like a tutorial at 1st boot?
[02:13] <lowman62> in /etc
[02:13] <cyphase> brenner, at first boot, and whenever they want it
[02:13] <scanwinder> nbound: redguy:  think i found it openmotif-libs
[02:13] <nbound> what would u put in it though?
[02:13] <brenner> cyphase: haven't heard of anything in the pipeline but it's a great idea
[02:13] <nbound> scanwinder, oh ok
[02:14] <nbound> kewl
[02:14] <redguy> scanwinder: my apt-file tells me that it is in libmotif3
[02:14] <scanwinder> anyone know where i can find a .deb package for it?
[02:14] <scanwinder> redguy: oh ok
[02:14] <redguy> !info libmotif3
[02:14] <ubotu> libmotif3: (Open Motif - shared libraries), section multiverse/libs, is extra. Version: 2.2.3-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1190 kB, Installed size: 2968 kB
[02:14] <nbound> cyphase, the problem is what do u put in it, how technical do u make it???
[02:14] <redguy> there you go
[02:14] <cyphase> nbound, as little as possible, within reason
[02:15] <pm_> hi, can i make a personalized iso of ubuntu? with the apps that i want and all those customizations?
[02:15] <twilight> scanwinder, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:15] <redguy> scanwinder: consider installing apt-file for looking for files in packages which are not installed
[02:15] <cyphase> it would have stuff like "What is Ubuntu?", "what is Open Source?", What is Firefox/Evolution/Gaim?", etc
[02:15] <scanwinder> redguy: thats odd, i have that installed and im getting an error sayin it cant find it when i try to run motv
[02:16] <nbound> cyphase, if u dont know them u really shouldnt be using linux
[02:16] <nbound> lol
[02:16] <redguy> scanwinder: did you apt-file update ?
[02:16] <cyphase> very funny :P
[02:16] <scanwinder> redguy: apt is telling me its installed
[02:16] <C-O-L-T> hello
[02:16] <redguy> scanwinder: what is installed?
[02:16] <nbound> C-O-L-T, just ask ur q
[02:16] <scanwinder> redguy: libmotif3
[02:16] <cyphase> maybe even have slightly different versions for Windows and Mac
[02:17] <scanwinder> redguy: but motv wont open and says it cant find libXm.so.3
[02:17] <cyphase> "Evolution is like Outlook" and "Evolution is like Mail.app"
[02:17] <nbound> cyphase, while i admit itsa good idea, theres more important things
[02:17] <Matsy> Is it safe to uninstall libgcj?
[02:17] <Matsy> Or does Ubuntu need it.
[02:18] <redguy> scanwinder:check with ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3
[02:18] <nbound> cyphase, and there are win convert distros, such as xandros, and lycoris
[02:18] <tristan> I reconfigured xserver-xorg but it didn't fix the problem
[02:18] <redguy> scanwinder: how did you install motv?
[02:18] <cyphase> nbound, there are more important things.. but give me an example
[02:18] <nbound> Matsy, why do u want to uninstall it?
[02:18] <Matsy> Cause i want to use Sun's java
[02:18] <Matsy> and not Ubuntu's java
[02:18] <g1m> can somebody help me to get my wlan usb stick (atmel) to work?
[02:18] <Matsy> root@ubuntu:/aryan/svn# java -version
[02:18] <Matsy> java version "1.4.2"
[02:18] <Matsy> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[02:18] <scenestar> yeah
[02:19] <scenestar> glm
[02:19] <scenestar> i can
[02:19] <nbound> cyphase, gettin dapper goin, creatin safe ntfs writing, getting better AMD64 compatibility
[02:19] <g1m> cool
[02:19] <cyphase> nbound, true
[02:19] <scenestar> is it a benq stick?
[02:19] <g1m> hotplug installed a driver and i can configure wlan0 with iwconfig
[02:19] <g1m> no
[02:19] <scanwinder> redguy: out of the repositorys
[02:19] <cyphase> unfourtanetly, i don't have the skill for that kind of stuff
[02:19] <cyphase> at least the latter 2
[02:19] <Matsy> Does Ubuntu need libgcj6?
[02:19] <scenestar> glm
[02:19] <scenestar> then what is the problem?
[02:20] <nbound> cyphase, neither, but hey if u offered to ubuntu to write an intro im sure theyd love the idea
[02:20] <cyphase> as far as "gettin daper goin", that can be a lot of stuff
[02:20] <redguy> scanwinder: hrmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, this is odd :/
[02:20] <nbound> cyphase, id be willing to help
[02:20] <scenestar> meh
[02:20] <g1m> network-manager says "Status: not connected" there is a signal of "0" and i cannot ping a second computer
[02:20] <android> may someone give me a command that copy all .pdf and .jpg files on system to specific folder?
[02:20] <scenestar> ubuntu is being dumbed down too much
[02:20] <scenestar> glm: do you know the EXACT chipset?
[02:20] <pm_> how can i make a personalized ISO with ubuntu? i have to install ubuntu in a lot of machines, and i want to padronize the instalation with the same apps and etc.
[02:20] <g1m> at76c505
[02:20] <nbound> scenestar, yeah... but only a good user can use it to its full potential
[02:21] <ricky_clarkson> Matsy: If ubuntu needs libgcj6 you will get an error when you try to remove it, or it will tell you it's about to remove lots of other packages.
[02:21] <gnudreamer> !chroot
[02:21] <ubotu> chroot is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[02:21] <Matsy> Ricky, its about to remove a lot of packages.
[02:21] <cyphase> nbound, cool
[02:21] <Matsy> Including full Openoffice.
[02:21] <scenestar> nbound, : thats not the point, xutils for instance doesnt contain lndir and such
[02:21] <Matsy> and bsh
[02:21] <redguy> scanwinder: don't know how to help you then, "it should work" :-)
[02:21] <Matsy> so i doubt i can remove it.
[02:21] <scenestar> and some idiot on the forums was bitching about people being able to rm -Rf
[02:21] <ricky_clarkson> Matsy: There is another package that makes gcj pretend to be Java.
[02:21] <Matsy> What package?
[02:21] <lowman62> Matsy: OpenOffice is dependant on what you are removing
[02:21] <nbound> scenestar, well it is known to be a user friendly 'aka - dumbed down' distro
[02:21] <ricky_clarkson> Matsy: gcj-compat or something like that.
[02:22] <scenestar> nbound, just because its for the general public
[02:22] <scenestar> doesn mean that it should be crippled
[02:22] <nbound> scenestar, theres other options like gentoo, which will probably be what i use next
[02:22] <Matsy> ricky_clarkson,  LibGcj6-Common ?
[02:22] <Sobh_> any idea how to get a ubuntu .deb of sdk 5.0?
[02:22] <ricky_clarkson> Matsy: Doubtful.
[02:22] <scanwinder> redguy: hmm...ill just keep messin with it till it works then
[02:23] <scenestar> glm
[02:23] <scenestar> http://at76c503a.berlios.de/devices.html
[02:23] <scenestar> read that
[02:23] <g1m> already did that
[02:23] <lowman62> Matsy: are you wanting to install a java development kit (jdk) or java runtime environment (jre) ?
[02:23] <Sobh_> Anyone?
[02:23] <Matsy> Jre.
[02:23] <scenestar> chances are that ubuntu installed the OS driver by default
[02:23] <g1m> my vendor is not in that list
[02:23] <scenestar> in that case
[02:23] <scenestar> have you tried ndiswrapper?
[02:23] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Sobh_ about javadebs
[02:23] <tristan> I still have my problem that I cannot launch properly my gnome session because there is a trouble with gnome_segv. I reconfigured xorg but it did nothing except making me lose my widescreen resolution
[02:24] <g1m> yes, didn't get that to work either
[02:24] <scenestar> ugh
[02:24] <scenestar> ndiswrapper hell
[02:24] <scenestar> what exactly did you try with ndiswrapper?
[02:24] <brenner> tristan: you could probably help us out more by pasting the exact error wording
[02:24] <nbound> tristan, im stumped... a reinstall perhaps... but only if noone else can help you
[02:25] <g1m> installed vnet558.inf .. it said: hardware present
[02:25] <lowman62> Matsy: just install the jre leave libgcj...is this for your browser that you want the jre?
[02:25] <cyphase> tristan, it's hanging at the brown screne, right?
[02:25] <g1m> i removed the atmel modules
[02:25] <Matsy> lNo.
[02:25] <cyphase> screen*
[02:25] <g1m> and rebooted
[02:25] <Matsy> I wanna run a program.
[02:25] <Matsy> But if i leave libgcj, its not using the jre
[02:25] <gnudreamer> !tv
[02:25] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, gnudreamer
[02:26] <g1m> network-manager said i was connected and i had a signal of 100% but i couldn't configure the device by iwconfig
[02:26] <tristan> Well, I will translate because, I have not a english ubuntu. It says something like "Error when lauching or when saving configuration information gnome_segv. some of your configuration parameters may not function properly"
[02:26] <gnudreamer> !ivtv
[02:26] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, gnudreamer
[02:26] <gnudreamer> !bttv
[02:26] <lowman62> Matsy: install the jre in say /opt then in your .bashrc config file add the path to where it exists...there ya go! dundee
[02:26] <ubotu> gnudreamer: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:26] <gnudreamer> !video
[02:26] <ubotu> gnudreamer: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:26] <ricky_clarkson> Matsy: How did you install Java?
[02:26] <cyphase> tristan, you're at the login screen..
[02:26] <Sobh_> Guys, 1.4, not 1.5
[02:26] <cyphase> and you enter your info, and press enter..
[02:26] <gnudreamer> !xorg
[02:26] <ubotu> it has been said that xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:26] <cyphase> what happens?
[02:26] <Matsy> Ricky, i ran the bin file
[02:26] <Matsy> ./blabla.bin
[02:27] <scanwinder> redguy: in xterm i just get the one line of output about libXm.so.3 and, im Eterm, i get a whole page of output ( http://pastebin.com/511391 )
[02:27] <ricky_clarkson> Matsy: That's not the normal way on Ubuntu.
[02:27] <Matsy> erm.
[02:27] <Matsy> isnt it?
[02:27] <tristan> And, what is not functionning properly is that when I choose gnome session, I have no splash screen no launching of nautilus. Only the background I choose to launch session
[02:27] <Sobh_> robot, 1.4, not 1.5
[02:27] <lowman62> Matsy: where did it install to?
[02:27] <cyphase> tristan, that happened to me when i first installed breezy..
[02:27] <ricky_clarkson> Matsy: Check out the java-package package.
[02:27] <tristan> cyphase : yes I type my login and pass and it ends there. I have the error message
[02:28] <ricky_clarkson> beezly: Aloha.
[02:28] <Matsy> I dont know Lowman62
[02:28] <cyphase> tristan, since i had installed only a few days ago, i just reinstalled it
[02:28] <tristan> cyphase : so what did you do
[02:28] <Matsy> How can i check?
[02:28] <cyphase> never happened again
[02:28] <cyphase> tristan, do you have a firewall running?
[02:28] <n00b> hello?
[02:28] <cyphase> n00b, hi
[02:28] <n00b> wow
[02:28] <n00b> this actually works :P
[02:28] <cyphase> ..
[02:28] <cyphase> what does?
[02:28] <n00b> linux :P
[02:28] <glorca> hi there
[02:28] <cyphase> n00b, really?
[02:29] <g1m> scenestar: i tried to configure the device by /etc/ndiswrapper/netv558/<deviceID>.conf .. but it didn't work.. especcialy for the essid
[02:29] <n00b> its my first time running it so im kinda excited
[02:29] <cyphase> n00b, how'd you do it?
[02:29] <glorca> a little doubt here
[02:29] <cyphase> ;)
[02:29] <cyphase> n00b, i know what you mean
[02:29] <n00b> lol
[02:29] <brenner> n00b: awesome.
[02:29] <Red80> Hi Everyone
[02:29] <cyphase> smae for me when i first botted up linux
[02:29] <n00b> hey red80
[02:29] <scanwinder> n00b: yeh it works unlike windows:P
[02:29] <n00b> lol
[02:29] <n00b> fore sure scanwinder
[02:29] <scenestar> glm, dont expect ndiswrapper to have all the fancy scan abilities
[02:29] <glorca> the ubuntu packages of openoffice2-beta for breezy takes as dependency ubuntu-desktop package
[02:29] <scenestar> you have to do things manually
[02:29] <lowman62> Matsy: check to see if it installed to /opt...in console type ..cd /opt and see if it exists..if so type ls to what is in there
[02:29] <g1m> yeah, how ? :)
[02:29] <glorca> and i need to install sun packages, what can i do ?
[02:29] <scenestar> as in manually add the wep keys and ssid
[02:29] <cyphase> n00b, everything running alright?
[02:29] <g1m> where ?
[02:29] <beezly> ricky_clarkson: i
[02:29] <beezly> ricky_clarkson: hi
[02:30] <gnudreamer> Ok so I have an on-board sis video card, I want to re-add a AI Tech wave watcher tv input card, which bttv supports(supposedly). Which configuration utility should I use to tweak the driver to work with my card?
[02:30] <scenestar> glm, the same way you isntalled it
[02:30] <Matsy> jdk1.5.0_06  netbeans-4.1
[02:30] <Matsy>  lowman62
[02:30] <scenestar> i read a great guide in the ubuntu wiki on this
[02:30] <n00b> yeah everything is fine cyphase, i just have some things that i need to change.
[02:30] <scanwinder> can someone help me with the error im getting with motv? http://pastebin.com/511391
[02:30] <tristan> cyphase : not on my computer but I am behind the firewall of my university I suppose
[02:30] <cyphase> tristan, no, that's fine
[02:30] <glorca> if i deisntall openoffice2-beta, apt deinstalls me ubuntu-desktop
[02:30] <lowman62> Matsy: cd /jdk1.5.0_06
[02:30] <lowman62> then ls
[02:30] <tristan> cyphase : why?
[02:31] <cyphase> it' just i've heard reports about Gnome not working with a fireall on the local computer
[02:31] <cyphase> it's*
[02:31] <lowman62> there should be a jre included with the jdk
[02:31] <cyphase> i have a firewall though, and it's fine
[02:31] <rambo3> firehole?
[02:31] <Matsy> bin        include  LICENSE      sample                       _uninst
[02:31] <Matsy> COPYRIGHT  jre      man          src.zip
[02:31] <Matsy> demo       lib      README.html  THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.txt
[02:31] <glorca> can somebody give me a hand ?
[02:31] <mephis1987> oh
[02:31] <brenner> glorca: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage and can be removed safely
[02:31] <cyphase> glorca, sorry, i need both of mine..
[02:31] <mephis1987> i have a problem
[02:31] <g1m> scenestar: k i'll check the wiki
[02:31] <Matsy> so yes lowman62, there is a jre.
[02:32] <Red80> How is everyone?
[02:32] <lowman62> Matsy: just type cd...to put you in your home directory then
[02:32] <glorca> really brenner ?
[02:32] <cyphase> mephis1987, everybody had probles
[02:32] <cyphase> problems*
[02:32] <brenner> glorca: yes.  really.
[02:32] <cyphase> has*
[02:32] <glorca> ok
[02:32] <cyphase> ;)
[02:32] <glorca> thanks, i will try
[02:32] <lowman62> Matsy: gedit .bashrc
[02:32] <cyphase> mephis1987, instead of saying you have a problem, tell us the problem
[02:32] <Matsy> it doesnt exist.
[02:32] <Matsy> at least, there is nothing in it
[02:32] <mephis1987> Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[02:32] <cyphase> ah
[02:33] <mephis1987> when i install the chmlib
[02:33] <Red80> Can anyone gimmie some help on installing a good SNES emulator please? Back in my days of windows (about 4 months ago, I've been soley linux since...) I used ZSNES but I don't know how to get ZSNES
[02:33] <cyphase> mephis1987, do you have synaptic open?
[02:33] <Matsy> but aw well.
[02:33] <Matsy> Im at gedit.
[02:33] <glorca> Red80
[02:33] <Red80> glorca?
[02:33] <mephis1987> i follow the guide here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-81510.html
[02:33] <mephis1987> yes
[02:33] <glorca> download last version
[02:33] <glorca> from my repository
[02:33] <lowman62> Matsy: in the .bashrc config file you can set the path to java... :/opt/jdk<versionnumber>/jre/lib/bin
[02:33] <cyphase> mephis1987, are you installing via synaptic?
[02:33] <glorca> for ubuntu
[02:33] <mephis1987> no
[02:33] <glorca> do you have breezy ?
[02:33] <cyphase> mephis1987, that's your problem
[02:33] <Red80> I'm running breezy yes
[02:33] <mephis1987> i didnt see gnochm there
[02:33] <cyphase> i'll explain..
[02:34] <glorca> http://human.gnu.cl/packages/ubuntu_breezy_i386/
[02:34] <Matsy> Lowman62, is it correct there is nothing in the file .bashrc ?
[02:34] <glorca> there is it
[02:34] <brenner> Red80: there's a zsnes package in multiverse
[02:34] <glorca> yup, but is 1.40
[02:34] <brenner> glorca: what version is on your repo?
[02:34] <glorca> i compiled 1.42
[02:34] <lowman62> Matsy: are you in your home directory /home/matsy for example?
[02:34] <brenner> glorca: nice.
[02:34] <Matsy> NO.
[02:34] <Matsy> sorry
[02:34] <Matsy> for caps
[02:34] <Matsy> im at /
[02:34] <Red80> multiverse? Can I apt-get it?
[02:34] <Matsy> just /
[02:34] <cyphase> mephis1987, whenever you want to install a package, you usually use apt-get or Synaptic. each of them sets the file so that you don't have 2 programs installing things at once, which could lead to instability
[02:35] <lowman62> Matsy: cd to your home directory then type "gedit .bashrc"
[02:35] <brenner> Red80: yes, after you've enabled the multiverse repo.  glorca has the 1.42 version though
[02:35] <g1m> scenestar: the ndiswrapper-list doesn't say a thing about Atmel chipsets..
[02:35] <Matsy> Now something is in it :D
[02:35] <g1m> scenestar: possible that they don't support it ?
[02:35] <mephis1987> oh
[02:35] <gnomefreak> ty cyphase i always wondered why only 1 apt process could run at a time :)
[02:35] <Storkme> are there any programs for uploading images to a website?
[02:35] <mephis1987> i closed synatic
[02:35] <Matsy> Im in there.
[02:35] <cyphase> mephis1987, so you can't use Synaptic and the terminal at once
[02:36] <scenestar> glm it worked with my atmel 2500 series
[02:36] <mephis1987> and i got the same problem
[02:36] <Red80> well I guess my repo's are the same as the ones enabled by Automatix, and last time I checked synaptic multiverse appeared to be open
[02:36] <cyphase> mephis1987, on the whole computer, not just your account
[02:36] <cyphase> mephis1987, you sure?
[02:36] <Red80> but I wan't to apt-get it
[02:36] <mephis1987> yes
[02:36] <cyphase> gnomefreak, your welcome
[02:36] <Agiofws> hello
[02:36] <mephis1987> i m sure
[02:36] <glorca> Red80 my package can also be removed via apt
[02:36] <glorca> because is a debian package
[02:36] <cyphase> mephis1987, did you close synaptic properly? or did you kll it
[02:36] <brenner> Red80: so apt-get install zsnes
[02:36] <cyphase> kill*
[02:36] <ricky_clarkson> Matsy: So, did the wiki help?#
[02:36] <glorca> compiled for breezy x86
[02:36] <Red80> it worked
[02:36] <lowman62> Matsy: just add the path to the end of the others with  a :/opt/jdk<version>/jre/lib/bin
[02:37] <Red80> i've been typing 'Zsnes' not 'zsnes'
[02:37] <Red80> now it works :P
[02:37] <Red80> Huzzah
[02:37] <glorca> lol xD
[02:37] <Matsy> So all the way to the bottom
[02:37] <g1m> scenestar: what driver did you use with ndiswrapper?
[02:37] <lowman62> Matsy: you need the colon as a seperator...no should be close to the top
[02:37] <Red80> right now to get some R*MS
[02:37] <mephis1987> yes
[02:37] <mephis1987> let me try it again
[02:37] <scenestar> glm, im a bit rusty because i used it over a year ago
[02:37] <scenestar> but it worked crappy
[02:37] <cyphase> mephis1987, make sure apt-get isn't running in any terminals
[02:37] <ricky_clarkson> I'd stay away from that RMS if I were you.
[02:38] <Matsy> erm.
[02:38] <Matsy> there is no path.
[02:38] <Red80> Hmm... this really should brighten my day :P I'm off school sick
[02:38] <mephis1987> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[02:38] <mephis1987> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[02:38] <n00b> ZOMG GUYS UBUNTU IS TEH SHITE!~!
[02:38] <brenner> Red80: don't all packages start in lowercase? :P
[02:38] <mephis1987> here the whole thing i recieve
[02:38] <ricky_clarkson> Matsy: Have you looked at Ubuntu's documentation?
[02:39] <lowman62> Matsy: one second
[02:39] <Red80> brenner: shush all the other kids will laugh :P
[02:39] <mephis1987> when i type apt-get install chmlib
[02:39] <cyphase> lol
[02:39] <cyphase> mephis1987, you have to run as root
[02:39] <brenner> Red80: lol. nah, anyone who still plays snes games is cool with me :)
[02:39] <Red80> Huzzah!
[02:39] <scenestar> pah
[02:40] <scenestar> i play snes
[02:40] <mephis1987> yes , i m root of my linux
[02:40] <Red80> games were better before 3D
[02:40] <cyphase> mephis1987, run this..
[02:40] <scenestar> and psx
[02:40] <Agiofws> > and psx
[02:40] <cyphase> sudo apt-get install chmlib
[02:40] <glorca> i still play nes ans snes
[02:40] <glorca> :D
[02:40] <scenestar> i got pcsx to run at 500 fps
[02:40] <scenestar> it was awkward
[02:40] <glorca> and psx, of course
[02:40] <glorca> via epsxe linux binaries
[02:40] <mephis1987> run this ?
[02:40] <cyphase> sudo apt-get install chmlib
[02:40] <Red80> Hmm... how do I change my ubuntu menu logo to some other .png
[02:40] <mephis1987> run what ?
[02:40] <Agiofws> is anyone using fluxbox ?
[02:40] <cyphase> sudo apt-get install chmlib
[02:41] <cyphase> mephis1987, sudo apt-get install chmlib
[02:41] <brenner> Red80: not happy with the orange threesome then? :)
[02:41] <glorca> xD
[02:41] <n00b> Is anyone able to help with a firefox icon problem?
[02:41] <Riccardone> Hi all
[02:41] <cyphase> n00b, what's wrong?
[02:42] <cyphase> n00b, you want it to be the official icon?
[02:42] <Red80> Heh! I got a pretty cool 'graphite' ubuntu logo off gnomelook.org, it still has the ubuntu logo on it :P
[02:42] <glorca> fox is missing ? lol
[02:42] <mephis1987> yeah
[02:42] <scenestar> if anyone is interested for the psx emulator
[02:42] <scenestar> http://eric.halo43.com/linux_psx_emu.php
[02:42] <mephis1987> i made it ?
[02:42] <n00b> cyphase: yeah
[02:42] <scenestar> n00b, theres a really nice how to on the forums
[02:42] <scenestar> copy paste
[02:42] <glorca> scenestar epsxe works great under linux
[02:42] <cyphase> n00b, one second
[02:42] <glorca> i also have tried it under freebsd, using linux emulation
[02:42] <cyphase> or scenestar can help :)
[02:42] <glorca> and it works great
[02:42] <n00b> scenestar: would you be able to tell me where, Ubuntu or firefox?
[02:42] <Riccardone> I'd like install Ubuntu Linux but my my PC is old date. Where I can read System Requirements to install Ubuntu ??
[02:42] <scenestar> n00b, ill link you
[02:42] <scenestar> jsut a second
[02:42] <mephis1987> oh
[02:42] <Agiofws> to start fluxbox what do you issue from command line ? or do you put "exec fluxbox"  in ~.xinitrc?
[02:42] <mephis1987> 1 more thing
[02:43] <n00b> scenestar: thanks
[02:43] <glorca> Riccardone it depends on the use you will give to it
[02:43] <cyphase> mephis1987, what's that?
[02:43] <scanwinder> can someone help me with the error im getting with motv? in Eterm im getting this erorr: http://pastebin.com/511391 and, im xterm im getting: motv: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:43] <mephis1987> can i press ctrl C for copying
[02:43] <n00b> scenestar: its just that theirs no icon their, and i tried the tip on the website but that doesn't work
[02:43] <scenestar> yeah eyah yeah
[02:43] <brenner> Agiofws: just select it from the sessions menu at login
[02:43] <scenestar> jsut chill
[02:43] <mephis1987> and ctrl V for paste
[02:43] <glorca> to use gnome, any 686 500Mhz or more and 192 ram, is the minimum i will recomend for gnome
[02:43] <Riccardone> glorca : there's a site abuot System Requirements for Ubuntu Linux ??
[02:43] <Agiofws> brenner:  its a server install
[02:43] <glorca> but, if you'l use some light wm, you can use a smaller pc
[02:43] <brenner> Agiofws: ah
[02:43] <Agiofws> brenner:  no login manager
[02:43] <cyphase> mephis1987, 1, yes you can. 2, couldn't you try? :)
[02:44] <Belutz> does anyone know why my wireless ethernet keep sending packet while it's not configured?
[02:44] <Red80> so is there anyway to change the ubuntu menu image to a different .png?
[02:44] <cyphase> Red80, yes
[02:44] <cyphase> the Menu Editor
[02:44] <brenner> Agiofws: then i'd point you to #fluxbox if no-one answers here.  dunno to be honest
[02:44] <pl_ice> hi :)
[02:44] <Red80> I've tried and it doesnt want to work
[02:44] <cyphase> Red80, i don't know then
[02:44] <cyphase> it's worked for me
[02:44] <Red80> It changes on all entries apart from the actuall button itself
[02:45] <CarinArr> agiofws, you can start it from gdm..
[02:45] <pl_ice> anyone uses bluefish www editor? ...
[02:45] <CarinArr> if you installed it through synaptic it should be listed as an option
[02:45] <n00b> if i type in <screen name>:<message> does that mean my name comes up red?
[02:45] <Agiofws> CarinArr:  no gdm  just runlevel2
[02:45] <cyphase> n00b, as long as the name is in the message
[02:45] <cyphase> n00b, doesn't have to be in that format
[02:46] <n00b> cyphase: okay, thankyou
[02:46] <cyphase> n00b, and the whole message, not just name
[02:46] <CarinArr> agiofws, sorry about that, didn't read what you said properly
[02:46] <n00b> cyphase: got ya... would you still have a solution for that firefox issue :P
[02:46] <scenestar> ihmmm
[02:46] <scenestar> odd
[02:46] <CarinArr> agiofws, but yeah you should be able to put it in .xinitrc
[02:46] <scenestar> cant find the guide anymore
[02:46] <gnomefreak> scenestar: what guide?
[02:46] <Agiofws> put what exec fluxbox?
[02:47] <cyphase> n00b, download the firefox icon and set it as the icon in the menu editor
[02:47] <CarinArr> yeah or startfluxbox
[02:47] <CarinArr> (better use the latter)
[02:47] <n00b> cyphase: menu editor, firefox icon? all i got so far is the firefox icon from the installation. I don't know what a menu editor is...
[02:48] <Red80> does anyone know how to make XMMS the default media player in ubuntu? so I can use the 'launch music player' keyboard shortcut and my music hotkeys?
[02:49] <cyphase> n00b, Applications -> System Tools -> Applications Menu Editor
[02:49] <jshellman> I went through the FakeRaidHoto (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto) and all went fine until the final boot when I got a bunch of errors and was dropped into busybox.
[02:50] <n00b> cyphase, that's for the menu though... i need the solution for the actual program. When it runs, the browser window has some crappy icon rather than the firefox symbol.
[02:50] <jshellman> So I'm getting errors like: mdadm: /dev/md0 has been started with 1 drive (out of 2)
[02:50] <cyphase> n00b, oh
[02:51] <jshellman> unable to find volume group "nvidia_abcdcbc5"
[02:51] <jshellman> any ideas?
[02:51] <Agiofws> where can edit startup files in booting ?
[02:51] <cyphase> n00b, that's significantly harder
[02:51] <Agiofws> or which directory ?
[02:51] <n00b> cyphase, i thought so. Firefox had a solution on their website... but that doesn't seem to work.
[02:53] <pl_ice> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC"....> means in html language? anyone?
[02:54] <n00b> don't know...
[02:54] <brenner> n00b: sys > help > starter guide > tips & tricks
[02:54] <cyphase> pl_ice, it's declaring the DOCTYPE
[02:54] <cyphase> :)
[02:54] <brenner> n00b: topic 17
[02:55] <cyphase> pl_ice, you don't have to worry about it. just put the standard line there
[02:55] <pl_ice> cyphase no, it cuts off my web! over here it's ok, in europe onone can open it!
[02:55] <pl_ice> *no one
[02:55] <brenner> seems like a lot of trouble for such a small detail to me :P
[02:55] <cyphase> pl_ice, what do you mean? it's an html tag..
[02:56] <pl_ice> cyphase well, if someone tries to open the page, it's totally empty, but exists, on my pc and other boxes in my city its ok! cut that line out, ant it works...
[02:56] <n00b> brenner, thank you very much... would this work on the firefox64 version though? (the one you can download off the net)
[02:57] <cyphase> pl_ice, what's the entire line?
[02:57] <brenner> no idea
[02:57] <cyphase> pl_ice, not just the beginning..
[02:57] <pl_ice> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
[02:57] <cyphase> pl_ice, you're behind the times :)
[02:57] <cyphase> 3.2 is..
[02:57] <cyphase> old
[02:58] <Alakazam> wow @ ubuntu
[02:58] <Alakazam> I like it, a lot
[02:58] <Alakazam> it autoconfiged my wireless card
[02:58] <polpak> Alakazam: welcome in =)
[02:58] <Alakazam> thats impressive.
[02:58] <Alakazam> :D thanks polpak
[02:58] <pl_ice> cyphase that's what bluefish u/d linux generated...
[02:58] <obontu> excuse me, how do i auto accept files in xchat?
[02:58] <mats> Yeah Alakazam. Ubuntu = Good.
[02:58] <Alakazam> yes it is
[02:58] <brenner> Alakazam: 1st distro?
[02:58] <cyphase> Alakazam, yooooou loooooove ubunntuuuuu
[02:58] <cyphase> ;)
[02:58] <Alakazam> any its got a nice default screen resolution.
[02:58] <pl_ice> :D
[02:58] <mats> First Distro here is FC4
[02:58] <Alakazam> no brenner
[02:58] <Alakazam> ive used like... 10 different ones
[02:58] <Alakazam> from mandriva to gentoo
[02:58] <Alakazam> slackware, freebsd
[02:58] <Alakazam> etc.
[02:58] <pl_ice> cyphase explain more? pls
[02:59] <cyphase> pl_ice, no
[02:59] <cyphase> ;)
[02:59] <cyphase> j/k
[02:59] <obontu> please. how do i auto accept files on xchat 2.6.0?
[02:59] <pl_ice> obontu bad idea ... to do so
[02:59] <obontu> bad idea or not
[02:59] <cyphase> pl_ice, i handcode my web pages, and in XHTML Strict, so i don't know..
[02:59] <obontu> i can't standby on each file i'm queued to
[03:00] <pl_ice> cyphase is it ok to get rid of it? and it's so old, wth bluefish generates it ;)
[03:01] <cyphase> pl_ice, perfectly ok
[03:01] <cyphase> it won't hurt the page at all
[03:01] <brenner> obontu: ask in #xchat.  the people in there are pretty cool
[03:01] <pl_ice> it did be4re ;)
[03:01] <obontu> thanx
[03:01] <cyphase> it's more for standards and the occasion when a browser can't detect for sure the version of a pages html
[03:02] <pl_ice> yeh, funny enough that u/d linux it worked ..heheh
[03:03] <mats> Lowman62?
[03:03] <mats> Are you still here?
[03:03] <pl_ice> thnx cyphase
[03:03] <n00b> how do i configure grub so that it can boot my windows xp partition?
[03:04] <cyphase> pl_ice, my pleasure
[03:04] <mats> Grub will do that auomatically wont it?
[03:04] <mats> If you install Ubuntu. It will detect Windows XP
[03:04] <mats> in grub.
[03:04] <n00b> yeah it did
[03:04] <n00b> but somehow it got ruined
[03:04] <lowman62> mats
[03:04] <n00b> and when i select XP it will restart
[03:04] <mats> Oh.
[03:04] <pl_ice> unfortunatelly ;) why u want xp :D
[03:04] <mats> yeah Lowman62?
[03:04] <n00b> games and some other stuff :P
[03:04] <cyphase> i knew it
[03:04] <cyphase> lol
[03:05] <lowman62> you rang?
[03:05] <mats> rang?
[03:05] <mats> Yeah
[03:05] <wolwer> hi folks!
[03:05] <brenner> n00b: restarts? no errors or anything?
[03:05] <mats> I pasted something in your private
[03:05] <wolwer> please... i'm having problems with my locale settings... i'm coming from Conectiva (using pt_BR.ISO-8859-1, i believe) and ubuntu uses pt_BR.UTF-8...
[03:05] <Alakazam> hmm
[03:05] <lowman62> paste again no open window there
[03:05] <Alakazam> cant get my sound going, the modules loaded.
[03:05] <Alakazam> should i use alsa, or oss?
[03:05] <mats> pasted.
[03:05] <n00b> brenner, no nothing... sometimes it just hangs there with the command... do you want me to paste my menu.lst file?
[03:05] <brenner> n00b: please
[03:06] <wolwer> i've tried to change in /etc/environment to pt_BR.ISO-8859-1 but I get some errors. do I need some additional packages to do this? or some help please? (sorry my english)
[03:07] <polpak> Alakazam: firstly what sound hardware do you have?
[03:07] <n00b> brenner, ## ## End Default Options ##
[03:07] <n00b> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 Default
[03:07] <n00b> root		(hd0,0)
[03:07] <n00b> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[03:07] <n00b> initrd		/boot/initrd.img
[03:07] <n00b> savedefault
[03:07] <n00b> boot
[03:07] <n00b> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 Default (recovery mode)
[03:07] <n00b> root		(hd0,0)
[03:07] <n00b> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 ro single
[03:07] <brenner> n00b: STOP
[03:07] <n00b> initrd		/boot/initrd.img
[03:07] <polpak> n00b: don't paste in here
[03:07] <n00b> boot
[03:07] <n00b> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 Previous
[03:07] <n00b> root		(hd0,0)
[03:07] <n00b> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz.old root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[03:07] <mats> erm.
[03:07] <n00b> initrd		/boot/initrd.img.old
[03:07] <n00b> savedefault
[03:07] <n00b> boot
[03:07] <frank2006> hellobie here...
[03:07] <polpak> ubotu tell n00b about pastebin
[03:07] <n00b> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 Previous (recovery mode)
[03:07] <mats> paste in private? ;)
[03:07] <n00b> root		(hd0,0)
[03:07] <n00b> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz.old root=/dev/hda1 ro single
[03:07] <n00b> initrd		/boot/initrd.img.old
[03:07] <n00b> boot
[03:07] <n00b> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8
[03:07] <n00b> root		(hd0,0)
[03:07] <n00b> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[03:08] <n00b> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8
[03:08] <n00b> savedefault
[03:08] <n00b> boot
[03:08] <polpak> dear lord.. stop
[03:08] <n00b> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 (recovery mode)
[03:08] <n00b> root		(hd0,0)
[03:08] <n00b> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 root=/dev/hda1 ro single
[03:08] <n00b> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8
[03:08] <n00b> boot
[03:08] <lowman62> mats: can you paste that again...I did not have you pm opened
[03:08] <n00b> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8
[03:08] <n00b> root		(hd0,0)
[03:08] <n00b> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[03:08] <n00b> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-9-amd64-k8
[03:08] <n00b> savedefault
[03:08] <n00b> boot
[03:08] <n00b> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 (recovery mode)
[03:08] <n00b> root		(hd0,0)
[03:08] <pl_ice> kick n00b
[03:08] <n00b> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 root=/dev/hda1 ro single
[03:08] <n00b> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-9-amd64-k8
[03:08] <n00b> boot
[03:08] <n00b> title		Ubuntu, memtest86+
[03:08] <n00b> root		(hd0,0)
[03:08] <mats> whoa.
[03:09] <mats> that was one hell of a paste:P
[03:09] <pl_ice> heh, he'll learn ;) hope
[03:09] <polpak> indeed
[03:09] <brenner> sorry guys.  i thought he knew about pastebins
[03:09] <mats> N00b
[03:09] <mats> www.pastebin.com
[03:09] <n00b> sorry
[03:09] <pl_ice> !pastebin
[03:09] <n00b> yeah i didnt know
[03:09] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:09] <mats> allright.
[03:09] <lowman62> mats you see my pm window?
[03:09] <mats> Yeah.
[03:10] <lowman62> paste it there
[03:10] <n00b> brenner, you still there?
[03:10] <mats> OH WAIT
[03:10] <mats> oh my god
[03:10] <frank2006> hoi
[03:10] <brenner> n00b: yep.
[03:10] <Matsy> it will work now.
[03:10] <n00b> brenner: k, im usin pastebin now
[03:10] <brenner> n00b: use a pastebin next time please
[03:10] <n00b> brenner: will do
[03:11] <frank2006> firts time here
[03:11] <polpak> frank2006: hi
[03:11] <n00b> brenner: http://pastebin.com/511433
[03:12] <frank2006> very silent here
[03:12] <wolwer> yeah
[03:12] <frank2006> hello wolwer
[03:12] <wolwer> i need some help with my locale settings, can you help me? hehehe
[03:13] <frank2006> very new myself...
[03:13] <brenner> n00b: pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'
[03:13] <frank2006> just instaled ubuntu
[03:13] <wolwer> hmmm
[03:13] <wolwer> me too
[03:14] <frank2006> got some trouble with setting, but i thinks it is running now
[03:14] <n00b> brenner: k, http://pastebin.com/511441
[03:14] <wolwer> whats your prob?
[03:14] <tango> hi everybody....
[03:14] <frank2006> firefox
[03:14] <robtotheb> how do i edit the new "updates available bubble" in drapper?   :P
[03:16] <ompaul> intero,  there is a document about persistance on the wiki
[03:16] <n00b> brenner: should i try booting without them?
[03:16] <Alakazam> polpak, i have intel sound hardware
[03:16] <brenner> n00b: yeah. just a stab, but maybe comment them out?
[03:17] <intero> ompaul: thanks
[03:17] <Alakazam> sorry, installing some things too
[03:17] <ompaul> intero,  it is recent I can't remember its title sorry
[03:17] <n00b> brenner: will do, rebooting now...
[03:18] <sarah10> hello how can i remove all my mysql? (also my config files?)
[03:18] <sarah10> i forgot my root password!
[03:18] <gnomefreak> sarah10: your user password
[03:19] <ompaul> gnomefreak, I thin kthat is the mysql root password sarah10 is referring to
[03:19] <vouzico> hi everybody :)
[03:19] <intero> ompaul: will search :) thanks again
[03:19] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhhhh sorry
[03:20] <ompaul> gnomefreak, :-)
[03:20] <gnomefreak> :)
[03:20] <brenner> vouzico: hi dr. nick
[03:20] <sarah10> mysql root pswd!
[03:20] <sarah10> gnomefreak:  ompaul
[03:22] <gnudreamer> what is the hihest version of irefox ubunut breezy will run?
[03:22] <n00b> brenner: i get an error this time
[03:22] <brenner> n00b: what is it?
[03:22] <shadrach> if i install ubuntu dapper, how hard is it to get KDE?
[03:22] <n00b> brenner: it says to replace system disk
[03:22] <polpak> gnudreamer: by default it has 1.0.7
[03:22] <ompaul> sarah10, you can recover the root password for mysql, I have seen it in a faq
[03:22] <polpak> gnudreamer: but you can install 1.5
[03:22] <polpak> !ff1.5
[03:22] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:22] <n00b> brenner: then it tries to run GRUB again and i get Error Number 17
[03:22] <olicat> does anyone have an idea why i can't connect to port 431 (imap)? i've got cyrus imap running, and should listen on that port. cant work it out
[03:23] <ompaul> sarah10, I'll poke some stuff I have here but it is not very hard once you own the box
[03:23] <SaneEnglishMonk> sarah10: this is the mysql doc about resetting the password: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[03:23] <robtotheb> how do i get my ubuntu laptop (wi fi) to share files with my PC?
[03:24] <robtotheb> PC is ubuntu too
[03:24] <gnudreamer> what is the safest/best wy to upgrade to 1.5?
[03:24] <SaneEnglishMonk> sarah10: basically, kill the server (sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop), then run sudo mysqld --skip-grant-tables --user=root
[03:25] <johnl> sarah10: or add "skip-grant-tables" to the [mysqld]  section in /etc/my.cnf
[03:25] <SaneEnglishMonk> sarah10: (as it says at the end of the mysql doc, before the user comments)
[03:25] <n00b> brenner: any ideas?
[03:25] <johnl> or is it /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[03:26] <brenner> n00b: i'm hitting forum topics.  you're welcome to join me: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=3434201
[03:26] <sarah10> johnl:  SaneEnglishMonk qhat does mit do?
[03:26] <sarah10> johnl:  SaneEnglishMonk qhat does it do?
[03:27] <SaneEnglishMonk> sarah10: which?  the --skip-grant-tables option makes mysql not require a password for the root user
[03:27] <olicat> does anyone have an idea why i can't connect to port 431 (imap)? i've got cyrus imap running, and should listen on that port. cant work it out
[03:27] <brenner> n00b: this one looks the most promising so far: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101316
[03:27] <brenner> n00b: it sounds like a partitioning problem
[03:28] <SaneEnglishMonk> olicat: Isn't IMAP 143 (or 993 if you're using imaps)?
[03:29] <enyc> olicat: I thought IMAP mas 143, not 431
[03:29] <n00b> brenner: reading over it now
[03:32] <wolwer> has ubuntu group of packages? example task-c++-devel or someting like that?
[03:32] <gnudreamer>  im doing what is outlined in the wiki to update firefox I do this sudo apt-get install libstdc++5.....computer is reprinting my terminal login name over and over I cant getinto my application pulldown menu what is happeing?
[03:32] <n00b> brenner: what about this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76652&highlight=grub+restore+howto
[03:32] <olicat> SaneEnglishMonk, enyc you're both right. connected now
[03:32] <Toma-> anyone tried compiling xorg 7.0 on ubuntu?
[03:33] <olicat> SaneEnglishMonk, enyc one more thing i'm trying to do though is login - does imap use my linux (/etc) user db, or something else?
[03:34] <brenner> n00b: so re-install grub?  if you're trying that, i'd suggest removing it 1st: boot off an xp cd, go into rescue mode, and run 'fixmbr'.  that way, you can see if the problem is if your xp install was borked, or if it is a true grub error
[03:34] <sarah10> with apt-get coommand how can i remove completely a prog?
[03:35] <olicat> and thanks, by the way :)
[03:35] <gnomefreak> sarah10: sudo apt-get remove --purge program
[03:35] <colinl> Hi
[03:35] <SaneEnglishMonk> olicat: By default I think courier uses PAM, so yes
[03:35] <colinl> Anyone here running Dapper and has an HP Laserjet printer?
[03:35] <albacker> how can i upload when im connected to the server using ssh /
[03:36] <n00b> brenner: i can still boot into XP though if i change around the hard drives in the bios
[03:36] <olicat> SaneEnglishMonk, using Cyrus here, not sure what that uses
[03:36] <n00b> brenner: i really doubt its an XP error
[03:36] <brenner> n00b: then what was that "replace system disk" thingy?
[03:36] <SaneEnglishMonk> olicat: then I'm not sure - try it and see?
[03:37] <n00b> brenner: well, i used to have another windows installation on one of the drives... i think grubber is trying to boot that one
[03:37] <jpoa> hi there
[03:37] <gnudreamer> is paste offline?
[03:37] <jpoa> anyone here using Wvolution?
[03:37] <jpoa> *evolution
[03:37] <pl_ice> cyphase turned out that it's the <meta> options that bugs out the web :/
[03:38] <gnudreamer> is pastebin offline?
[03:38] <lowman62> jpoa: yes
[03:38] <brenner> n00b: in that case i guess reinstalling grub is a good idea
[03:38] <n00b> ok
[03:38] <n00b> brenner: ok
[03:38] <n00b> brenner: will be back if it doesnt work :P
[03:38] <jpoa> lowman62, can you tell me how can i select which folder evolution will use to store emails and so on?
[03:39] <lowman62> jpoa: one second I will give you an answer...hold on
[03:39] <olicat> SaneEnglishMonk, hmm, it's using pam (thanks), but trying to login returns "LOGIN BAD"
[03:39] <jpoa> Thanks lowman62
[03:39] <ago_> how i can install cinelerra on my ubuntu?
[03:39] <lowman62> np
[03:39] <Toma-> !info cinelerra
[03:40] <Toma-> hmm
[03:40] <Toma-> ago_: yeh you can, you'll need to find your own package for it tho
[03:40] <pl_ice> !cinelerra
[03:40] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, pl_ice
[03:40] <pl_ice> !beer
[03:40] <brenner> isn't it cinerella?
[03:40] <lowman62> jpoa: do you mean locally on your computer or within the program itself?
[03:40] <SaneEnglishMonk> olicat: Anything in the server logs?
[03:41] <ago_> locally!
[03:41] <jpoa> Locally on the computer, like for example /jpoa/mails
[03:41] <Jarno> hello!!!
[03:41] <lowman62> jpoa: ok one second
[03:42] <Jarno> there are the girl here?
[03:42] <gnomefreak> Jarno: this is a support chat for ubuntu if you want to just chat use #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:43] <Jarno> ok
[03:43] <Jarno> thanks
[03:43] <Tired_> Hello.  I was wondering if anyone had experience setting up MythTV under Ubuntu, and if there's any common problems I should look out for.
[03:43] <olicat> SaneEnglishMonk, hmm i think i was on a wild goose chase. i was trying to login with "LOGIN username pwd", but i need to use "01 LOGIN username pwd"
[03:43] <brenner> lol
[03:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Tired_: yeah, there's a wiki about it, I think
[03:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !mythtv
[03:43] <ubotu> I heard mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[03:43] <Tired_> Awesome!  Thanks  :)
[03:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> np :)
[03:44] <sexcopter8000m> is there a command or other means to find the speed of my processor in mhz?
[03:44] <phos-phoros> people watch tv? who would've though?
[03:44] <Tired_> I assume Ubuntu alows different window managers than Gnome...right?
[03:44] <lowman62> jpoa: am still working on it for you
[03:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Tired_: Yeah: check Kubuntu and Xubuntu
[03:45] <jpoa> Ok lowman62 i'm patient :)
[03:45] <Kr0ntab> sexcopter8000m: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:45] <lowman62> jpoa: thank you i am using the livecd so am slower than normal LOL :P
[03:45] <brenner> Tired_: or just install a different DE after install
[03:45] <Tired_> Oh.  You need a different distro to use a different WM?  I was going to use EvilWM
[03:45] <sexcopter8000m> thanks Kr0ntab
[03:45] <olicat> SaneEnglishMonk, one thing that is odd though, is that i always get "<IP_ADDRESS>: connection refused", but it tries ::1, and it cnnects
[03:46] <gnomefreak> there has to be something im missing :(
[03:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Tired_: No you don't, they're all in the repository.
[03:46] <Tired_> Sweet  :)
[03:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Tired_: There's even a package (like kubuntu-desktop) that'll handle all the dependencies for you.
[03:47] <Tired_> Ubuntu uses .deb, iirc
[03:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> yup
[03:47] <wolwer> PuMpErNiCkLe, has some package for development?
[03:47] <Ng> olicat: that sounds like ipv6 is confusing the issue a little
[03:47] <SaneEnglishMonk> olicat: Odd.  Don't know much about IPv6.  Do you know which address it's listening on?
[03:47] <sarah10> how can i edit a file in shell (txt
[03:47] <sarah10> ?
[03:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wolwer: Like 'build-essential'?
[03:48] <gnomefreak> lowman62:  is your update-notifier working?
[03:48] <sarah10> how can i edit a file in shell (txt
[03:48] <sarah10> )?
[03:48] <guim> hi all
[03:48] <gnomefreak> sarah10: sudo gedit path/to/file/for/edit
[03:48] <wolwer> PuMpErNiCkLe, that install gcc flex bison automake .....
[03:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sarah10: nano /path/to/file
[03:48] <guim> I have something strange in gnome
[03:48] <brenner> Tired_: there's a package manager installed by default.  and the apt commands aren't too hard to learn
[03:48] <olicat> Ng, SaneEnglishMonk the machine is on <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:48] <lowman62> gnomefreak: am using the livecd till I move...i iggy the notifier
[03:48] <wolwer> PuMpErNiCkLe, build-essential do that?
[03:48] <gnomefreak> :(
[03:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wolwer: Most of that, yeah... I don't recall the exact packages.
[03:48] <olicat> Ng, SaneEnglishMonk no idea where the ipv6 stuff has come into it
[03:49] <wolwer> PuMpErNiCkLe, tks
[03:49] <gnomefreak> my notifier crashed on install of fl 3 and hasnt come back :(
[03:49] <Tired_> I know apt-get, although I'm not familiar with gui apt tools...shouldn't be too hard to learn
[03:49] <Ng> olicat: well ubuntu loads the ipv6 kernel module by default unfortunately
[03:49] <brenner> Tired_: if you know apt-get, you're set
[03:49] <Tired_> sweet  :)
[03:49] <sarah10> gnomefreak:  PuMpErNiCkLe  how can i create a new file form shell? i want to create file my.cnf for examlpe
[03:50] <sarah10> !
[03:50] <Tired_> How 'cutting edge' are the Ubuntu repositories?
[03:50] <Kr0ntab> olicat: netstat -an  will show you what it's listening on....
[03:50] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, sarah10
[03:50] <Ng> Tired_: they're from october
[03:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sarah10: Just save it as that file name in nano.
[03:50] <Ng> Tired_: ubuntu doesn't introduce new versions of packages until the next stable release (april)
[03:50] <sarah10> otherwise?
[03:50] <Kr0ntab> olicat: I found that some of my service also chose the ipv6 protocol as well....   I chose to disable ipv6 all together
[03:50] <Tired_> oh.  is there a way to install packages newer than october, without compiling from source?
[03:50] <Ng> Tired_: some things might be backported, but generally nope
[03:50] <lowman62> jpoa: I believe this is where I got the info about that http://www.kitchenlab.org/www/bmah/Notes/evolution.html
[03:51] <Tired_> darn.  ivtv doesn't support my tv card yet
[03:51] <olicat> Kr0ntab, when i grep for 143 from netstat, i get a load of "ESTABLISHED", and 1 listen :::143 and :::*
[03:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sarah10: echo "" > /path/to/my.cnf
[03:51] <sarah10> ok
[03:51] <sarah10> tnx my ove!
[03:51] <lowman62> gnomefreak: what?? it crashed??
[03:51] <sarah10> tnx my love!
[03:51] <gnudreamer> ok I realize I'm ignorant but how do I get into the desktop from /home directory?
[03:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sarah10: np o_O
[03:52] <Tired_> if I choose to compile it from the source, will that cause problems down the road?
[03:52] <brenner> i recommend checkinstall
[03:52] <Tired_> with the package system, I mean
[03:52] <reddick> cd Desktop dude
[03:52] <jpoa> lowman62, thanks
[03:52] <Kr0ntab> you running an IMAP server?
[03:52] <lowman62> jpoa: yw :)
[03:52] <Kr0ntab> olicat: ?
[03:52] <gnomefreak> lowman62: crashed it gave an error about fo/something see if that is installed and the notifier hasnt been seen since that was yesterday afternoon :(
[03:52] <gnudreamer> bash: cd: Desktop: No such file or directory
[03:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Tired_: It shouldn't, unless it's a major component like glibc and you use really weird compile options o_O
[03:53] <Tired_> no, no, just the card driver
[03:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Tired_: Then no. :)
[03:53] <lowman62> gnomefreak: try sudo apt-get update and see what happens
[03:53] <olicat> Kr0ntab, that was some of the output from netstat
[03:53] <Printer> Godd Day All.
[03:53] <Tired_> cool.  I guess I'll give it a shot and report my findings on the wiki (my card is newer than the one the wiki author used)
[03:54] <Tired_> thanks a lot for your advice.  :)
[03:54] <Kr0ntab> olicat: a way to get around your problem would be to specify what address your service is suppose to listen on.  or disable ipv6 all together.
[03:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Tired_: np :)
[03:55] <simonx> hello
[03:55] <gnudreamer> ok I realize I'm ignorant but how do I get into the desktop from /home directory?
[03:55] <gnudreamer> by the way im a super sexy woman
[03:55] <gnudreamer> lol
[03:55] <Toma-> sif
[03:55] <lowman62> gnudreamer: cd Desktop
[03:55] <ccc_> gnudreamer: /home/username/Desktop/
[03:56] <gnudreamer> yeah i tried that and got this error
[03:56] <Toma-> gnudreamer: also, cd ~/Desktop
[03:56] <lowman62> or cd /home/username/Desktop
[03:56] <gnudreamer> bash: cd: Desktop: No such file or directory
[03:56] <brenner> gnudreamer: <reddick> cd Desktop dude
[03:56] <guim> in gnome :
[03:56] <guim>  creating a zip archive won't work when there is an empty folder to add to the zip
[03:56] <simonx> i own an old epson stylus color 440. it is officially supported but if i want to prin sth. the only thing i get is ascii code ... i tried turboprint etc., are there any clues to my problem?
[03:56] <guim> has anyone ever seen this before?
[03:56] <brenner> gnudreamer: then you ain't in your /home/<username>
[03:56] <guim> and ther is no error message
[03:56] <Toma-> simonx: youre printing in postscript mode
[03:57] <simonx> Toma-: How can I change the mode?
[03:57] <gnudreamer> cd ~/desktop worked
[03:57] <Toma-> simonx: not sure... dont have printing on this PC :(
[03:57] <gnudreamer> ty I apologize for being slow
[03:57] <ccc_> gnudreamer: great. and that's the best method, since it doesn't depend on in which dir your are currently located
[03:57] <simonx> Toma-: ok thanks
[03:57] <lowman62> gnudreamer: if you type just cd and hit enter that will automatically put you in your home directory ;)
[03:58] <gnudreamer> andy trick
[03:58] <gnudreamer> handy trick
[03:58] <Toma-> simonx: wish i could be oh more use :/
[03:58] <Toma-> simonx: is it a big page of ascii with some words up the top?
[03:58] <simonx> Does anybody know how to change the print mode (not postscript)?
[03:58] <gnudreamer> sweet one of these days im going to write some software that creates free energy for everyone
[03:58] <simonx> Toma: no only 3 lines
[03:59] <Toma-> simonx: AHH i get that on my other PC...
[03:59] <damien_> Anyone here with lots of knowledge about RFCOMM?
[03:59] <lowman62> gnudreamer: I could use some energy :P
[03:59] <simonx> Toma-: It does not matter if i print out a testpage or something else
[03:59] <Toma-> simonx: thats not postscript... it usually happens when you have too much in your print list
[03:59] <gnudreamer> check your thyroid in the meantime.....go have sushi tonight with wasabi and kelp!
[03:59] <simonx> Toma-: I cannot follow you ? !
[04:00] <_jacob> hello world
[04:00] <simonx> Toma-: How can i empty my print list?
[04:00] <lowman62> gnudreamer: you know i never liked sushi till they cooked it for me ;)
[04:00] <gnudreamer> haha
[04:00] <_jacob> question: "set -o vi" is not working for me, anyone?
[04:00] <Toma-> simonx: somewhere in Apps > System tools > Printing or something??? ive completely removed printing from this PC :(
[04:00] <gnudreamer> seriously thugh if you have low energy probs look into your thyroid
[04:00] <_jacob> $SHELL=XTERM
[04:01] <Toma-> _jacob: 'man set'
[04:01] <Eddie> how force apt-get to install from the internet, im ssh'd into my box from work and it wants the CD to install php
[04:01] <trappist> jarlev: what is that supposed to do?  are you trying to export EDITOR=vim ?
[04:01] <Toma-> check your tab completion :)
[04:01] <_jacob> no manuel entry
[04:02] <brenner> Eddie: comment out the cd source in /etc/apt/sources.list then update
[04:02] <Eddie> thanks ;)
[04:02] <Toma-> _jacob: set wont do anything like that.... what are u trying to do anyway?
[04:02] <blekos> hello guys
[04:02] <_jacob> Toma-: trying to set my shell to vi
[04:02] <blekos> anyone know how i can update gnome via dapper drake repos?
[04:02] <_jacob> works on redhat
[04:02] <Toma-> vi isnt a shell....
[04:03] <Printer> Anyone get gnome-pilot to work with a palm in dapper?  jpilot works awesome but gnome-pilot cannot find the device.
[04:03] <lowman62> umm last i checked vi was an editor..and not a very good one at that :P
[04:03] <_jacob> i know but there is an option to set vi commands as shell commands
[04:03] <blekos> vi is a great editor, u need 2 get familiar with it
[04:03] <Toma-> _jacob: you really dont want vi as a shell.
[04:03] <lowman62> blekos: i hear ya...i will stick with vim tho ;)
[04:04] <blekos> :)
[04:04] <trappist> _jacob: I think maybe you're trying to put your shell in vi *mode* so vim keybindings work?
[04:04] <gnomefreak> vi is good just hard to use for some people
[04:04] <_jacob> first of vi=vim for me
[04:04] <_jacob> i am trying to do this
[04:04] <_jacob> http://www.kingcomputerservices.com/unix_101/using_history_and_command_line_editing.htm
[04:04] <qt4x11> hi
[04:04] <gnomefreak> vi and vim are not the same
[04:04] <trappist> gnomefreak: it's incredibly easy to use.  just hard to *learn*.
[04:04] <qt4x11> whereis sendmail.cf on a default ubuntu installation?
[04:04] <gnomefreak> :)
[04:04] <ncnite> Printer - I assume you enabled the conduits?  Gnome: system-preferences-PalmOS
[04:04] <_jacob> trappist: exactly
[04:04] <_jacob> how do i do that
[04:04] <lowman62> vi is good vim is vi improved so was just kidding :P
[04:04] <lowman62> geesh! :P
[04:05] <lowman62> thansk toma was thirsty
[04:05] <damien_> Anyone here with lots of knowledge about RFCOMM?
[04:05] <Toma-> _jacob: that command will only work if youre using korn shell
[04:05] <Ng> damien_: a little, 'sup?
[04:05] <mirak_> hi, does anyone uses a logitech quickcam pro 5000 with linux ?
[04:05] <trappist> _jacob: set -o vi :)
[04:05] <lowman62> damien_: I can honestly say.....NO! sorry
[04:05] <Toma-> bash>ksh
[04:05] <_jacob> so your saying first change bash to korn then do that?
[04:06] <qt4x11> any good tutorials for setting up mailman w sendmail on ubuntu?
[04:06] <Toma-> _jacob: just like this how-to says
[04:06] <trappist> _jacob: no
[04:06] <damien_> Ng, trying to get my bluetoothheadset working with breezy, but i get "Can't connect RFCOMM channel: Host is down" when connecting to it with btsco
[04:06] <Toma-> sif 'set -o vi' would work in bash
[04:06] <brenner> out of interest, what distros use a shell other than bash as default?  i don't think i've ever used one
[04:06] <Printer> ncnite:  Hmmm.  I have no such entry on my menu.
[04:06] <Toma-> :O!!!!!!!!! errors in my xorg 6.9 build :~~(
[04:07] <yatesy> brenner: BSD
[04:07] <blekos> do u know how i can upgrade to dapper drake?
[04:07] <owner> did ubuntu release a new kernel
[04:07] <_jacob> i'm stumpt
[04:07] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[04:07] <ubotu> dapper is, like, totally, The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[04:07] <owner> because it wants to update one
[04:07] <brenner> yatesy: ah, thanks
[04:07] <owner> 2.6.12-10 but i already have 2.6.12-10- installed
[04:07] <blekos> i c
[04:07] <Ng> damien_: well you can configure rfcomm channels manually with the rfcomm tool and its "bind" option
[04:08] <Toma-> _jacob: just run 'ksh'
[04:08] <lowman62> gnomefreak: you get your updater back?
[04:08] <Toma-> if you have it
[04:08] <_jacob> Toma-: bash: ksh: command not found
[04:08] <Printer> ncnite:  I enabled it in the menu now.  It's there.
[04:08] <ncnite> Printer - you may need to use your Synaptic Pkg Mgr and add Gnome-Pilot and Gnome-Pilot-Conduits
[04:08] <_jacob> apt-get i assume
[04:09] <Toma-> you bet.
[04:09] <Printer> ncnite:  I get it to the point where it says "press the HotSync button".  It just stays there.  I have the port as /dev/ttyUSB1.
[04:09] <skycowboy> Hello ?
[04:10] <Toma-> hi
[04:10] <skycowboy> Don't think we odd first time use linux
[04:10] <overrider> how is ubuntus chinese support? like gnomes menus, applications etc?
[04:10] <Ng> overrider: if you install scim for the typing side of things it ought to be pretty good
[04:10] <owner> 2.6.12-10.26 must be a new ubuntu kernel
[04:10] <ncnite> Printer - heads up... my 5.2 TE sync'd ok on calendar (if you don't mind all categories in one) and contacts w/ Evolution.  but I had to reenable a time or two.
[04:10] <gnudreamer> i love ubuntu
[04:11] <skycowboy> I repair windows base systems all the time but this is hard
[04:11] <ncnite> Printer - I set the conduits to get it from the palm.
[04:11] <brenner> anyone get standby/hibernate functionality on their laptop on ubuntu?
[04:11] <gnomefreak> i love irssi :)
[04:11] <Kyral> as do I
[04:11] <Kyral> Irssi owns all
[04:11] <Juhaz> brenner, yes
[04:11] <Printer> ncnite.  K.  I'll keep on trying.  I'm really glad that jpilot works so good though.
[04:11] <Kyral> I <3 Irssi + Screen
[04:11] <_jacob> ok gotit thanks guys, be healthy
[04:11] <Ng> brenner: hibernate works for me, but not suspend
[04:11] <Toma-> owner: yep. new kernel has been released
[04:11] <skycowboy> yes to linux
[04:11] <gnomefreak> i started using it yesterday :)
[04:11] <Juhaz> brenner, both
[04:11] <deefzi> the original developer of irssi lives somewhere very near my house. can i get a bonus? :P
[04:11] <ncnite> Printer - hope that helped
[04:11] <gnomefreak> Kyral: same set up as me
[04:11] <owner> where can i see the changes
[04:11] <brenner> Ng, Juhaz: did you get it on default install, or do i need to config something?
[04:12] <Ng> brenner: this is just a default install
[04:12] <Printer> ncnite:  You bet.  Thanks.
[04:12] <brenner> when i close the lid, it just goes to sleep i.e. screen turns off
[04:12] <skycowboy> Just installed flash player and i was a pain
[04:12] <gnomefreak> !flash
[04:12] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:12] <benkong2> how can i see the status of rc.d scripts. On shutdown i get an error kdm not started
[04:12] <skycowboy> why can't things just lonch
[04:12] <damien_> Ng, pm
[04:12] <Kyral> benkong2: do you run both GDM and KDM?
[04:12] <deefzi> does nautilus and xmms support the "queue song"-function?
[04:13] <brenner> Ng: i'm guessing this kernel won't work for my laptop then...
[04:13] <gnomefreak> if you add the right repos its becomes very very easy i think it is sudo apt-get install flash :)
[04:13] <benkong2> they are both installed using gdm at the moment
[04:13] <Kyral> benkong2: thats normal then
[04:13] <depl0y> yay!!!!!!
[04:13] <Kyral> benkong2: KDM is trying to shut down...but since its not running ;P
[04:13] <owner> why didnt ubuntu release a 2.6.15 kernel for breezy
[04:13] <blekos> is there a way to see which is the biggest file/ folder in my pc?
[04:13] <benkong2> Kyral; ok i thought i could just remove one from the rc.d folder
[04:13] <depl0y> I got the new bcm43xx driver working!!
[04:13] <depl0y> without ndiswrapper
[04:13] <gnomefreak> owner: its used in dapper
[04:13] <depl0y> woooehoooe
[04:13] <Kyral> benkong2: you can try the sysv-rc-conf package
[04:14] <Toma-> owner: they dont do major release updates
[04:14] <blekos> my installed programs etc takes about 4gb... and i want to c what this is ...
[04:14] <gnomefreak> owner: its unstable
[04:14] <skycowboy> is there a good video editor for linux
[04:14] <owner> 2.6.15 is stable now
[04:14] <benkong2> so if i want to change back to kdm is it just a matter of editing /etx/X11/default-display-manager?
[04:14] <Kyral> benkong2: But you have to realize, all things you do there are IMMEADIATE
[04:14] <MacSlow> owner, free or commercial?
[04:14] <skycowboy> i will try both
[04:14] <gnomefreak> owner: still not stable yet
[04:14] <benkong2> k thanks
[04:14] <Ng> owner: ubuntu don't release new versions of their packages after a release is out. dapper will be out in april and have 2.6.15
[04:15] <MacSlow> skycowboy, ups... was meant for you
[04:15] <MacSlow> skycowboy, so free or commercial?
[04:15] <blekos> y dapper drake is goint to have 3years of support? r they thinking of stopping after that?
[04:15] <Toma-> oh dear....
[04:15] <skycowboy> free for now unless commercial has a trial ver.
[04:15] <MacSlow> skycowboy, commercial: MainActor, shake (very expensive... but more a compositing program)
[04:15] <gnomefreak> stopping what?
[04:16] <MacSlow> skycowboy, MainActor has a free trial... I think
[04:16] <MacSlow> skycowboy, I don't think for shake there's an evaluation-version.
[04:17] <lowman62_away> .
[04:17] <knubbe-> is there a way to log my wlan connection? alert/write to file if it goes down
[04:17] <MacSlow> skycowboy, free movie-editors... hm... I only know of programs that are still in development... Diva, pitivi
[04:17] <gnudreamer> any hints on forcing my wireless card to broadcast as a wireless access point?
[04:18] <owner> xvid macslow
[04:18] <MacSlow> owner, hm... I don't know that one
[04:18] <owner> its pretty popular
[04:18] <MacSlow> owner, I know 3D-apps a bit better
[04:18] <knubbe-> is xvid considered a movie editor?
[04:19] <owner> its a video codec
[04:19] <MacSlow> owner, skycowboy: doesn't blender have a kind of "movie-editor" by  now... or something similar.
[04:19] <brenner> isn't cinelerra free?
[04:19] <Planker> I am very new to linux/ubuntu. Sorry, if this a silly question. I just installed a program. I can run it from the terminal by typing cd /usr/local/chandler and then ./release/RunChandler .....if i wanted to make a launcher on the desktop for it, is it possible? what command would i need to put in for the launcher?
[04:20] <owner> you can create launchers by right clicking and selecting launcher
[04:20] <damien_> Ng, still there?
[04:20] <owner> in gnome
[04:20] <Ng> damien_: yep, I didn't get any messages though
[04:20] <Planker> i cant figure out the command i'd need to enter for the launcher though.
[04:20] <damien_> odd
[04:20] <Ng> brenner: it is, but it's also terrifically complicated to use
[04:20] <brenner> Planker: /usr/local/chandler/release/RunChandler i'd assume
[04:20] <Ng> damien_: I think there is something about having to register with NickServ on this IRC network before you can /msg people
[04:20] <MacSlow> skycowboy, there's a dedicated site to art-creation software under Linux.
[04:20] <owner> do whereis programname
[04:20] <brenner> Planker: i.e. connect the dots
[04:20] <damien_> oh
[04:21] <damien_> Ng,  quess i'll do that first then :D
[04:21] <Ng> skycowboy: avidemux is pretty simple, but works. kino is pretty good if you are working with DV
[04:21] <theine> is the dapper kernel compiled with gcc-3.4 or gcc-4.0?
[04:21] <Kyral> 4.0
[04:21] <Kyral> I think
[04:21] <theine> and how does one find that out btw?
[04:22] <Kyral> uname -a?
[04:22] <theine> Kyral, thanks, but I'd like to be sure
[04:22] <Ng> Kyral: cat /proc/version
[04:22] <theine> Kyral, no
[04:22] <Kyral> oh lol
[04:22] <Kyral> good to know
[04:22] <theine> Ng, that's it, thanks
[04:22] <Ng> :)
[04:23] <brenner> MacSlow: what site'd that be?
[04:24] <MacSlow> brenner, I'm just trying to remember the URL... a bit along the line www.linuxartists.org
[04:24] <tzfardea> Hey I have a problem, I can't change the keyboard layout
[04:24] <MacSlow> But that's not it
[04:24] <tzfardea> I found some threads but nothing helped
[04:24] <tzfardea> When i'm using setxkbmap to change layout I get this error
[04:24] <tzfardea> Error loading new keyboard description
[04:24] <gnomefreak> the dapper kernel is compiled with 4.0 im almost sure of that
[04:25] <tzfardea> I also checked the xorg.conf file and it looks fine
[04:25] <tzfardea> What can I do?
[04:26] <Planker> the readme file says the program is such that i cant run the program by typing ./RunChander while i'm in the release directory, that it will only run if i navigate to the 'chandler' directory and then do the ./release/RunChandler. :-/
[04:26] <reddick> tzfardea, what's your problem one more time ?
[04:27] <tzfardea> I can't change the keyboard layout
[04:27] <pl_ice> hey, i need some hand with www, re-directing, firefox works cool, u/d IE it's stuck, anyone?
[04:27] <reddick> on witch ? some like CZ ?
[04:27] <tzfardea> I am trying to change the layout to us,il, if you mean that
[04:27] <colinl> Each time I do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, I get some "The following packages have been kept back: blah"
[04:28] <colinl> how do I upgrade these packages?
[04:28] <brenner> Planker: that's kinda weird
[04:28] <reddick> edit this line
[04:28] <reddick>         Option          "XkbLayout"     "cz,us"
[04:28] <Kyral> colinl: in Dapper or Breezy?
[04:28] <colinl> Kyral: Dapper, sorry
[04:28] <Kyral> colinl: in dapper you need to use dist-upgrade
[04:28] <tzfardea> I already did this, but it didn't help
[04:28] <colinl> Kyral: each time?
[04:28] <Kyral> upgrade doesn't remove packages to satisfy the upgrade, dist will
[04:29] <Kyral> colinl: yah
[04:29] <gnudreamer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7323
[04:29] <colinl> Kyral: great, thanks!
[04:29] <gnudreamer> totem dvd issue
[04:29] <owner> how can i enable rar support in ubuntu
[04:29] <reddick> so try to reboot. BTW are you using gnome ?
[04:29] <Kyral> owner: sudo apt-get install rar unrar-nonfree
[04:29] <tzfardea> No, I am using ion2
[04:29] <twitch101> how do i figure out what type of filesystem my external cdr/rw drive is?
[04:29] <gnudreamer> after running restricted formats wiki
[04:29] <brenner> owner: install unrar-nonfree from multiverse
[04:29] <tzfardea> I tried to reboot... didn't help again
[04:30] <reddick> well have no exprience with that one .. sorry
[04:30] <owner> thanks kyral and brenner
[04:30] <tzfardea> ok thanks...
[04:30] <twitch101> can anyone tell me how to figure out the filesystem of my external cdr/rw burner
[04:30] <Kyral> too many Dapper upgrades this morning
[04:30] <Planker> brenner: yeah, i thought so. the readme says "You will need to change to the chandler subdirectory, then type release/RunChandler. Note that you must be in the chandler directory; you cannot change to the release directory and type ./RunChandler". So, there's probably no easy way to make a launcher, you think
[04:30] <Planker> ?
[04:30] <Kyral> twitch101: its prolly UDF-8 or ISO<something>
[04:30] <TomBee> I'm remastering the ubuntu livecd, is there a way of taking a list of packages from one livecd, then using that list to add/remove packages from a new livecd?
[04:31] <twitch101> ok...
[04:31] <colinl> Still about Dapper, I noticed breakage of my HP laser printer, after investigation it looks like the culprit is the recent upgrade of udev and/or incompatibility with the vanilla 2.6.15 kernel
[04:31] <colinl> basically, /dev/usblp0 when hplip expects /dev/usb/lp0
[04:31] <Kyral> the 2.6.15 isn't vanilla...
[04:31] <brenner> Planker: i don't personally know how you would do it, no.
[04:31] <colinl> Kyral: mine is :)
[04:31] <MacSlow> brenner, hm... it should be at www.linuxartist.org
[04:32] <Kyral> colinl: then use the Ubuntu kernel lol
[04:32] <MacSlow> brenner, but it doesn't load for me here atm.
[04:32] <brenner> not for me either
[04:32] <colinl> It lacks a few crappy patches I have :)
[04:32] <Kyral> oy
[04:32] <brenner> but thanks for the URL
[04:32] <Planker> alright. thanks anyways though. i was worried it was something simple that i was just overlooking. :)
[04:32] <Ng> colinl: don't tell us, report a bug or something ;)
[04:32] <blekos> anyone can tell me how i can upgrade gnome?
[04:32] <Kyral> blekos: to?
[04:33] <Kyral> blekos: and are you in Breezy?
[04:33] <colinl> Ng, yes, just wanted to see if anyone else had the problem
[04:33] <Ng> blekos: if you really want to, jhbuild, or upgrade to dapper. neither is an especially good plan though
[04:33] <twitch101> omg can someone please write me out the mount command for the damn thing if i give you the fstab or the "dmesg" write out of the device
[04:33] <MacSlow> brenner, ah... now it loads again.
[04:33] <twitch101> cause i cant get it to work
[04:33] <colinl> twitch101: to mount a cd ?
[04:33] <twitch101> external cdburner
[04:33] <blekos> hm, i didnt mean to jump directly to dapper just gnome
[04:33] <Kyral> twitch101: sudo mount -t <device> <mountpoint>
[04:33] <deefzi> is adobe's or some other acrobat reader available from repositories?
[04:33] <blekos> maybe firefox as well :)
[04:34] <Kyral> blekos: Dapper's GNOME will NOT be backported to Breezy
[04:34] <Ng> deefzi: evince should be installed by default
[04:34] <colinl> twitch101: sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[04:34] <Kyral> same with Firefox
[04:34] <twitch101> so i do the UDF before the acvutal /dev
[04:34] <deefzi> Ng, oh. then i have to fix it to work w/ opera. ty.
[04:34] <blekos> that means i shoud do dist-upgrade...
[04:35] <Ng> deefzi: the adobe acrobat reader is in multiverse it would seem though - package is called acroread
[04:35] <blekos> ?
[04:35] <Ng> Kyral: I used to have it and I still don't understand it ;)
[04:35] <Kyral> Then again I use Dapper
[04:36] <Kyral> but I also use stuff that hasn't been updated in like years (Fluxbox, Irssi)
[04:36] <blekos> Kyral r u on Dapper???? ??
[04:36] <Kyral> blekos: yah
[04:36] <deefzi> Ng, ok. but if evince is as good as acroread, then i won't bother downloading extra-packages. or if you've used both, what's your opinion?
[04:36] <blekos> does it work?
[04:36] <Kyral> so far
[04:36] <Kyral> but I think breakage is about to hit
[04:36] <blekos> lol
[04:36] <Kyral> Beagle is disabled though
[04:37] <Ng> deefzi: well I like evince because it's integrated into gnome, where acroread stands out and looks nasty, but I have hit a few obscure PDFs that will only open in acroread, so I have both installed
[04:37] <blekos> when u installed it, were the files of the previous version removed or u needed extra space?
[04:37] <Kyral> blekos: I have a massive HD. I have KDE, XFCE, GNOME, Enlightenment, and Fluxbox installed
[04:37] <Kyral> HD Space is NOT an issue ;P
[04:38] <deefzi> Ng, ok. maybe it's worth installing, then.
[04:38] <Kyral> I just find stability boring :P
[04:38] <olicat> hi again all. when sending mail with sendmail (postfix) to a local user, if i try to view that users mail store via imap, there's nothing there (i think it just goes to their regular mailbox)
[04:38] <yatesy> all those apps are hardly a lot of space :P
[04:38] <olicat> does anyone know where i configure the system to use imap?
[04:38] <gnudreamer> Im trying to enable dma, I'm following the wiki, I get some errors. ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7325) what is a command to figure out which drive ie. hdc hdb my dvd drive is?
[04:38] <blekos> :)
[04:38] <trappist> olicat: in your email client
[04:38] <Kyral> gnudreamer: look in FSTAB?
[04:38] <twitch101> how would i edit the ftab file to accomodate this "Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0"
[04:38] <gnudreamer> ok
[04:38] <blekos> did worth the upgrading though?
[04:38] <Kyral> twitch101: find out that /dev entry it is
[04:39] <twitch101> how?
[04:39] <Kyral> blekos: /me shrugs
[04:39] <Kyral> twitch101: put a disc in?
[04:39] <twitch101> yea i did
[04:39] <Kyral> or tab complete /dev/
[04:39] <olicat> isn't it a server configuration? since the imap server isn't getting the mail?
[04:39] <trappist> twitch101: /dev/sda1 /media/whatever auto defaults 0 0
[04:40] <pl_ice> done , IE doesn't know what's ./ is :) hehheh where firefox does(if someone had read my question above...)
[04:40] <poningru> pl_ice: what question?
[04:41] <twitch101> yea it doesnt work
[04:41] <twitch101> thanks for tryin tho
[04:41] <pl_ice> poningru re-directions didn't work u/d IE, whereas it worked u/d firefox, couse IE does not like ./ shortcuts in the html lang.
[04:41] <olicat> any ideas why when sending mail with sendmail (postfix) to a local user, if i try to view that users mail store via imap, there's nothing there (i think it just goes to their regular mailbox)
[04:42] <gnudreamer> where is fstab?
[04:42] <deefzi> gnudreamer, /etc
[04:42] <gnudreamer> ah
[04:43] <trappist> olicat: postfix (or procmail) needs to deliver the mail to the same place imap expects to find it
[04:43] <pl_ice> is in /etc/fstab
[04:43] <deefzi> gnudreamer, for future 'updatedb && locate [filename] '
[04:43] <gnudreamer> cool
[04:43] <jrattner> Where is Document root and the CGI bin for apache2?
[04:43] <Kyral> jrattner: DocumentRoot is default /var/www
[04:43] <deefzi> gnudreamer, although locate only, not wise to updatedb every time you wanna search something. run it only when you are certain that you should get something hits with the locate command, but you don't
[04:43] <Kyral> dunno about cgi-bin
[04:44] <Ng>  /usr/lib/cgi-bin
[04:44] <jrattner> Kyral, not /var/www/apache2-default?
[04:44] <Kyral> jrattner: nope
[04:44] <deefzi> gnudreamer, you could put updatedb in cron
[04:44] <gnudreamer> in fstab where dvd cd rw drive should read as such it calls it cdrom1
[04:44] <jrattner> Kyral thanks
[04:44] <Kyral> jrattner: At least in Debian's it is lol
[04:44] <pl_ice> anyone from ireland? ....
[04:45] <Ng> jrattner: it's set in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default, look for DocumentRoot
[04:45] <StM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326
[04:45] <blekos> mayb i should wait then ... :/
[04:45] <Kyral> This is gonna be one helluva prelink
[04:45] <StM> when i use wpa it doesn't work
[04:45] <brenner> deefzi: it's in there by default iirc
[04:45] <StM> without wpa it works nice...
[04:45] <deefzi> brenner, ok. what's the timeline?
[04:45] <olicat> trappist, any idea where that is configured?
[04:45] <pl_ice> eh, bed time :) c ya.
[04:45] <gnudreamer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7327
[04:46] <gnudreamer> attempting to update dma
[04:46] <blekos> bye
[04:46] <brenner> deefzi: would /etc/cron.daily/slocate be it?
[04:46] <trappist> olicat: depends on what imap server you're using
[04:46] <icyvapor> ssid problem: everytime I reboot, my wireless config always change the format of ssid to Hex whereas my router uses plain ascii... where should I fix it
[04:46] <blekos> pl_ice
[04:46] <olicat> trappist, cyrus
[04:47] <trappist> olicat: I've never used cyrus.  might wanna consult the docs.
[04:47] <olicat> trappist, on some other type of imap system, what would the setting be called? (just so i have a starting point)
[04:47] <olicat> at the moment, i'm not sure what it is that i'm configuring
[04:48] <StM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326 Know somebody why my wireless network not works with wpa?
[04:48] <brenner> deefzi: all i know is each day i see activity in the system monitor applet, and when i do a top, updatedb is running
[04:49] <trappist> olicat: in courier it's MAILDIRPATH
[04:49] <gnomefreak> Kyral: are you using konsole for screen/irssi?
[04:49] <tristan> hello
[04:49] <jrattner> Last apache question, what user should I chown my files too
[04:49] <olicat> trappist, thanks, i'll look into it
[04:49] <Kyral> gnomefreak: xfce4-terminal
[04:49] <thgjerde> i am trying to upload a lot of files to a samba server, but for some reason the hard drives goes bananas with reads and writes. the upload speed is 3.5 MB/s, i would expect at least 30 MB/s
[04:49] <gnomefreak> :(
[04:49] <Kyral> or xterm
[04:49] <gnomefreak> i cant open links
[04:49] <gnudreamer> how do i get out o read only to edit hparm.conf file?
[04:50] <trappist> gnudreamer: use sudo to edit it as root
[04:50] <gnomefreak> gnudreamer: do you want to edit it or get out of it?
[04:50] <blekos> ppl when it try to listen to radio via firefox, i get the msg, totem could not play fd://0, the no decoders to handle stream
[04:50] <tristan> I have trouble launching my gnome session. It cannot launch properly because it says that there are errors when launching or saving gnome-segv
[04:51] <blekos> do u have any idea how i can fix that
[04:51] <jrattner> NG what user and group should my files be, root:root?
[04:51] <blekos> i mainly use vlc, for mp3 etc
[04:51] <j2daosh> anyone got a link for learning mysql? preferably a wiki or someshit?
[04:51] <gnudreamer> edit
[04:51] <caleb> Just installed Ubuntu, is there a default password for the root account? I am trying to 'su' and it's not taking my password
[04:51] <Kyral> j2daosh: mysql.com?
[04:51] <Kyral> ubotu tell caleb about RootSudo
[04:51] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell caleb about root
[04:51] <Ng> jrattner: it doesn't matter so much providing others can read them, or you can chown them to www-data:www-data which is the user/group that apache2 should be running as
[04:51] <trappist> j2daosh: the docs on the mysql site are very good
[04:51] <tristan> I reinstalled gnome-desktop-environment and gdm but it did not fix the problem
[04:51] <icyvapor> gnudreamer: switch to su, and chmod 700 your_file
[04:51] <j2daosh> !sudo
[04:51] <gnomefreak> Kyral: rootsudo isnt a command anymore :(
[04:51] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:52] <caleb> thanks
[04:52] <tristan> And I don't want to format
[04:52] <j2daosh> ur welcome
[04:52] <gnomefreak> <<<tried sudo sudoroot and root this am only root worked :(
[04:52] <icyvapor> gnudreamer: or if the file is yours.. just do it as yourself
[04:52] <j2daosh> gnome... whats going on?
[04:52] <Kyral> yah classtime
[04:53] <tristan> I can launch Xterm_failsafe (which I am currently on). I can launch ,firefox and so on but cannot launch nautilus
[04:53] <StM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326 Know somebody why my wireless network not works with wpa?
[04:53] <icyvapor> gnudreamer: maybe just "su"?
[04:53] <tristan> So I think that is why my gnome session won't load properly
[04:53] <gnomefreak> hi j2daosh
[04:53] <j2daosh> hows it hanging gnomefreak, what problem you having?
[04:53] <leonie> hi. i installed ubuntu for my mother and then changed the monitor. it had just 640x480, so i tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and i dont get a usable picture anymore
[04:54] <gnomefreak> using konsole with screen/irssi and cant get links to open :(
[04:54] <leonie> i mean, i get a picture, but gnome doesnt seem to like it. all the windows become black.
[04:54] <brenner> tristan: is this you error? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=117037&highlight=gnome_segv
[04:54] <j2daosh> konsole? like the knoppix konsole?
[04:54] <gnomefreak> j2daosh: like kde konsole
[04:55] <brenner> s/you/your
[04:55] <gnudreamer> icy ty that worked
[04:55] <j2daosh> ok yeah... knoppix terminal...lol well i dont know then... i know the terminal but i dont know what the screen irssi is...
[04:56] <tristan> brenner : exactly that's what is written
[04:56] <j2daosh> isn't that like another irc chat thing? cept it just uses a console instead of a proggie?
[04:56] <icyvapor> gnudreamer: np
[04:56] <trappist> gnomefreak: I don't think it's supported
[04:56] <dsfghdfgh> sal
[04:56] <gnudreamer> ;)
[04:56] <dsfghdfgh> sa va fut
[04:56] <brenner> tristan: try the dist-upgrade as suggested
[04:56] <dsfghdfgh> pe toti
[04:56] <dsfghdfgh> :))
[04:56] <gnomefreak> irssi is an irc client and sceen is something not real sure yet but it has lots of options from what i hear lol
[04:56] <gnudreamer> after making dma settings do i need to reboot
[04:56] <jrattner> Why can I see my webpage, only from the local network and not from the internet? Any clues on that one
[04:56] <trappist> gnomefreak: screen is awesome.
[04:56] <tristan> brenner : this is not a new install
[04:56] <trappist> gnomefreak: it will change your life when you learn how to use it.
[04:56] <CarinArr> screen is extremely useful
[04:57] <alainlucas> how to compress a directory with a command line
[04:57] <gnomefreak> trappist: im sure it is just not real sure what im doing lol
[04:57] <brenner> tristan: can you think of anything that might have caused it?
[04:57] <dsfghdfgh> hy bro
[04:57] <j2daosh> zip file
[04:57] <j2daosh> "file"
[04:57] <CarinArr> it's not that complicated really
[04:57] <icyvapor> anyone know where I can find the config file for wireless?
[04:57] <dsfghdfgh> how to connect too *.undernet.org ?
[04:57] <tristan> brenner : yes I had to shut down the computer by pressing 10 seconds the power button because the computer froze
[04:57] <gnomefreak> CarinArr: your talking to someone that cant figure out how to open links :(
[04:57] <dsfghdfgh> how to connect too *.undernet.org ?
[04:57] <dsfghdfgh> how to connect too *.undernet.org ?
[04:57] <dsfghdfgh> how to connect too *.undernet.org ?
[04:58] <dsfghdfgh> how to connect too *.undernet.org ?
[04:58] <dsfghdfgh> how to connect too *.undernet.org ?
[04:58] <dsfghdfgh> how to connect too *.undernet.org ?
[04:58] <dsfghdfgh> how to connect too *.undernet.org ?
[04:58] <dsfghdfgh> how to connect too *.undernet.org ?
[04:58] <gnomefreak> !ops
[04:58] <dsfghdfgh> how to connect too *.undernet.org ?
[04:58] <ubotu> methinks ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, or nalioth.
[04:58] <leonie> dsfghdfgh, stop that, please.
[04:58] <dsfghdfgh> pls
[04:58] <trappist> omg
[04:58] <leonie> dsfghdfgh, which client?
[04:58] <StM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326 Know somebody why my wireless network not works with wpa?
[04:58] <dsfghdfgh> help me pls
[04:58] <trappist> leonie: please don't feed them
[04:58] <j2daosh> dsf... open your server list and conect
[04:58] <Seveas> sigh
[04:58] <brenner> tristan: what caused the freeze?
[04:58] <leonie> trappist, sorry.
[04:58] <j2daosh> hey seveas
[04:58] <tristan> brenner : seems it was firefox
[04:58] <gnomefreak> well he was spamming :(
[04:59] <icyvapor> my ssid keeps using a hex format, but the plain ascii is what I want
[04:59] <Seveas> gnomefreak, I know, the sigh was aimed at him :)
[04:59] <gnomefreak> oh ok :)
[04:59] <brenner> tristan: i don't know to be honest.  one app freeze shouldn't cause entire system failure
[04:59] <imc_> Anyone running breezy on an Averatec AV3715-EH1
[04:59] <icyvapor> I changed it in network-admin, but it won't ave the change results
[04:59] <tristan> I'll try what is said i the post you gave me
[05:00] <brenner> tristan: good luck
[05:00] <Seveas> !tell imc_ about anyone
[05:00] <leonie> does anyone have a great tip for my gnome-problem? i dont know what i did wrong. it doesnt show anything properly anymore since i did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and thats bad ;(
[05:00] <tristan> brenner : thanks I need it
[05:00] <CarinArr> leonie, what do you mean it doesn't "show anything properly"
[05:00] <tristan> leonie : what is your graphic card? ati radeon?
[05:00] <leonie> tristan, no, its an old matrox.
[05:01] <brenner> CarinArr: i typed that sentence out exactly
[05:01] <leonie> CarinArr, the windows becone black and half of the background image is missing o_O
[05:01] <CarinArr> lol
[05:01] <imc_> Seveas, actually my ACTUAL question was whether, yes, anyone, in the room was running Breezy on an Averatec AV3715-EH1. Hence the form of my question :)
[05:01] <brenner> CarinArr: i want however many keypresses that took out of my life back please. :)
[05:01] <Ng> imc_: and if someone says yes you obviously have a followup question, that is what you're being asked to ask ;)
[05:02] <qsrv> hi I need help with evolution (2.4.1) on ubuntu
[05:02] <teclis> Hello, is their posibility with evolution to accept an SSL-certificate automatically? It's getting on my nerves to see the certificate-window everytime evolution starts.
[05:02] <imc_> But I do not have a followup
[05:02] <tristan> brenner : OK. I'm rebooting. I hope it will finally work. I don't want to use kde....
[05:02] <qsrv> I don't know what could be the cause, but since yesterday it does not retrieve emails from the servers (pop)
[05:02] <Ng> imc_: that begs the obvious question of why you are asking then ;)
[05:02] <brenner> tristan: good luck again
[05:02] <qsrv> it just reports the number of emails
[05:03] <CarinArr> leonie, does sound like it might be a videocard issue, but i'm hardly an expert
[05:03] <qsrv> and then sits there saying it's receiving email 1 of n
[05:03] <Seveas> imc_, hehe :)
[05:03] <qsrv> no network activity either
[05:04] <imc_> Ng, well, if *someone* is running it it was a good indication of the fact that SOMEONE got it running :)
[05:04] <qsrv> any ideas?
[05:04] <imc_> And as they say in the Navy, That is all.