[00:05] <N0body> ping
[00:06] <PanicSkittle> Confirm range, flood tubes one and two
[00:06] <N0body> expected pong
[00:06] <B_Man> Hey! I'm on a MacBook Ait and recently installed latest Ubuntu. Since I don't like Unity I installed Openbox and now I can't log in to neither of them. Suggestions?
[00:06] <N0body> no further questions.
[00:08] <N0body> did i forget something ?
[00:08] <zykotick9> PanicSkittle: <ot> "Confirm, range, flood tubes..." <- i liked that.  thanks.</ot>
[00:08] <daftykins> N0body: yes, that this is ubuntu support only... so take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks :)
[00:08] <OerHeks> N0body, yes, to read the /topic
[00:10] <soul_> hello
[00:11] <N0body> anybody know how to connect phone to your ubuntu desktop since ubunto dont support ios ;)
[00:12] <N0body> or maybe some tips for ubuntu since im new..
[00:12] <N0body> Im N0body btw.. sorry for being rude..
[00:12] <LtL>
[00:13] <daftykins> N0body: you can't basically.
[00:13] <SeriouslyLaugh> could someone direct me to the difference between an ubuntu flavor and an ubuntu derivative? apologies for the newb question. i'm still learning.
[00:14] <N0body> only with android ?
[00:14] <daftykins> flavour = official spin that comes with a different desktop, derivative = a distro based off ubuntu, like Mint etc.
[00:14] <SeriouslyLaugh> ty daftykins
[00:15] <OerHeks> there was https://launchpad.net/libimobiledevice for iOS, not sure it still works
[00:15] <OerHeks> else build it yourself > http://askubuntu.com/questions/598940/libimobiledevice-1-2-ios-8-support-for-ubuntu-14-04-trusty
[00:15] <daftykins> !pm | N0body
[00:16] <utu8o> on Windows/Linux desktop i prefer Firefox, on Android i prefer CM Browser, on iOS i prefer Opera Mini
[00:17] <N0body> true
[00:17] <N0body> i prefer learning.
[00:18] <N0body> thats why im here ;)
[00:21] <N0body> World
[00:22] <k1l> N0body: utu8o general chat please in #ubuntu-offtopic . we try to keep this channel clear for technical support only.
[00:23] <VeryBewitching> Hey folks.  I have an Ubuntu PC (15.10) and put a new SSD in it today and installed Windows on that.  How can I go about getting Grub installed in the MBR to recover my Linux installation?  I tried 2 of the methods in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2 (grub-install and chroot methods) but still no luck.  The chroot method complained that it couldn't find /mnt/boot/grub, the
[00:23] <VeryBewitching> former "worked" but there was no actual change.
[00:24] <N0body> thx for the info
[00:25] <Yuken> So, default Lubuntu 15.10 install. Opening up the Downloads folder via PCManFM... uses all the available RAM on my PC, then crashes everything entirely until it is stuck on a frozen screen.
[00:25] <Yuken> Any ideas?
[00:26] <daftykins> what's in there?
[00:27] <Yuken> daftykins, absolutely nothing.
[00:28] <k1l> maybe a black hole? :)
[00:28] <Yuken> Nah.
[00:29] <k1l> Yuken: can you start pcmanfm from a terminal and then see whats going on as errormessages?
[00:29] <Yuken> k1l, tried to do so. No error messages appear, from what I can see.
[00:29] <Yuken> k1l, and it does work fine, accessing it from the terminal.
[00:30] <VeryBewitching> Another thing to note about my issue is I'm running btrfs
[00:30] <k1l> Yuken: anything in .xsession-errors in the users home or in syslog?
[00:31] <Yuken> Nothing, k1l .
[00:32] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ubuntu 15.10 Installed... The trackpad works well but a little jerky, I have some synaptics settings yet to adjust. Thanks for your help and support
[00:35] <k1l> Yuken: strange. is the RAM ok?
[00:36] <Yuken> k1l, I'm... honestly not sure. This PC is 9 years old, going on 10. RAM is from bloody Hyundai :p
[00:36] <Yuken>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.2.0-18-generic i686 ** Distro: Ubuntu¦¶ "wily0u¦¶" 15.10u¦¶ ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T5250  @ 1.50GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1000MHz ** RAM: Physical: 2.0GiB, 63.9% free ** Disk: Total: 144.6GiB, 52.6% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co.,
[00:36] <Yuken>  Ltd. RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller ** Uptime: 4h 39m 30s **
[00:37] <daftykins> nothing wrong with that
[00:37] <daftykins> hyundai RAM i mean :P
[00:37] <Yuken> I know that, just the absurdity.
[00:37] <Yuken> Never thought of Hyundai making RAM :o
[00:37] <daftykins> was it a clean install?
[00:37] <Yuken> daftykins, clean install from the Lubuntu website, yes.
[00:37] <daftykins> and you've dist-upgrade'd since?
[00:38] <Yuken> daftykins, as I do not know much about Ubuntu & Linux in general, no clue.
[00:38] <daftykins> "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[00:38] <Yuken> I'll do so right now.
[00:39] <SeriouslyLaugh> difference between full-upgrade and dist-upgrade? not at a linux machine at the moment so I cannot man them
[00:40] <k1l> SeriouslyLaugh: its apt vs apt-get
[00:41] <SeriouslyLaugh> hm interesting, i will read up on that
[00:41] <SeriouslyLaugh> thanks k1l
[00:41] <bazhang> SeriouslyLaugh, manpages.ubuntu.com
[00:41] <k1l> SeriouslyLaugh: apt is the new command and did rename the commands so users dont get confused with apt-get dist-upgrade and a ubuntu release upgrade to the next version
[00:42] <SeriouslyLaugh> very interesting
[00:42] <SeriouslyLaugh> thanks bazhang and k1l
[00:42] <bazhang> welcome
[00:45] <Bashing-om> the_count: Great ... I do hope 'tweak'n' works the wrinkles out .
[00:46] <daftykins> SeriouslyLaugh: all man pages can be found via google.
[00:46] <SeriouslyLaugh> daftykins :P
[00:46] <daftykins> no i'm serious...
[00:46] <SeriouslyLaugh> !google
[00:47] <Gallomimia> pretty strange. i seem to have no grub on my macbook. it got nuked by a second install of rEFInd. works fine but no grub options
[00:53] <daftykins> SeriouslyLaugh: don't be so foolish, you wanted to see resources... i told you how to get to them. the factoid above is for genuinely not helping people and telling them to google their problems instead.
[00:57] <daftykins> Gallomimia: install it from the live session
[00:57] <daftykins> (ideally to the / partition of your ubuntu install)
[00:59] <SeriouslyLaugh> apologies daftykins
[01:08] <mib_mib> hi all - does anyone ahve any experience installing vertica on ubuntu? it doesn't seem to have a way to use the installer on a nonstandard SSH port
[01:10] <gzcwnk> :)
[01:14] <phoeniciavore> How can I disable the ubuntu desktop power manager? It keeps thinking that my UPS is dead (it's not) and shutting down the computer.
[01:14] <phoeniciavore> There's no option in the power settings to "do nothing" if the battery is critically low.
[01:16] <Gallomimia> daftykins: both the mac and ubuntu install are on the same drive, and they work. i'm in a dont-fix-not-broken mood really
[01:16] <Gallomimia> daftykins: but yes. i installed it on the first partition and not the root
[01:17] <daftykins> i think if it were in the root partition, rEFInd would find it and then bootup would give you the friendly menu
[01:17] <Gallomimia> it does
[01:18] <Gallomimia> just that when i boot to ubuntu, there's no grub that loads after refind
[01:18] <wannabegeekster> Hello...  I have Ubuntu 15.04 installed and a Corsair Void wireless USB headset.  For some reason my mouse and keyboard work intermittently when this device is plugged into my computer.
[01:18] <wannabegeekster> I have searched around quite a bit and have come up empty handed.
[01:18] <k1l> Gallomimia: press left shift after refind
[01:19] <Gallomimia> it did have that the first time around. then i ran some more installer and it nuked refind. so i installed refind and that nuked grub. time to stop nuking or i'm going to experience mutually assured destruction
[01:19] <Gallomimia> k1l yes that used to work. not anymore
[01:19] <daftykins> that's cause you put GRUB in the wrong drive! XD
[01:20] <k1l> does ubuntu boot?
[01:20] <daftykins> nevermind i won't let this topic go around for another loop of the circle :>
[01:20] <Gallomimia> yep
[01:21] <Gallomimia> and i can still insert kernel options in refind
[01:21] <wannabegeekster> I found a guide that talks about modifying the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file but it didn't really fix the issue although it does seem to have stabilized things barely.
[01:21] <daftykins> wannabegeekster: experimented with USB port choice i take it?
[01:22] <wannabegeekster> Yes, have tried all of the different port combinations.  There is a fairly large number of ports on the computer of course.  Not sure if there would be a recommended method of plugging everything in here.
[01:22] <daftykins> maybe just avoiding USB 3.0 when a device isn't 3.0 capable etc...
[01:23] <wannabegeekster> I have the keyboard and mouse in USB 2.0 and the audio device in a different USB 2.0 port as well, but a different controller
[01:23] <Gallomimia> i've had strange issues with USB ports. 3 versus 2 also
[01:24] <wannabegeekster> Well I think it is the Corsair being particularly problematic.
[01:26] <cre8r> Hey All, I've just mounted a new LVM volume its all good. But now I notice that my fstab file doesn't actually exist (this is a server version) . Do I need to create a full fstab file or just add my volume?
[01:26] <wannabegeekster> Is there some standard documentation on usb device troubleshooting?  Or possibly some driver development guides for usb devices that would be worth looking into?
[01:26] <wannabegeekster> cre8r: You definitely need a fstab file.
[01:26] <Gallomimia> you don't have an fstab? yeah i usually just add mine to the fstab but... what do you do if its gone?
[01:27] <cre8r> I'm asking as I don't really want to rebuild the fstab file for ubuntu as no doubt I'll screw it up and need to recover it from a bootable version lol
[01:27] <cre8r> its a fresh install lol just noticed now there is no fstab file at all
[01:27] <cre8r> which I thought was odd
[01:27] <wannabegeekster> Yes, that is really odd.  The system is booting though already without one?
[01:28] <Gallomimia> yeah. odd that it works without
[01:29] <cre8r> well... now I'm scared to reboot haha, not sure if its something I have done that has removed it... Basically just install some packages (lvm2 dmsetup mdadm reiserfsprgos xfsprogs) and setup a new LVM system, went to input it into fstab and ello ello whats going on ere
[01:29] <Gallomimia> yeah. let's see here...
[01:29] <Gallomimia> let me get you mine
[01:29] <Legendre> question here on user policy management.. something I've never had to think of before.. =)
[01:29] <daftykins> they're unique so there's not much point unless you run LVM too...
[01:29] <TaitenP> #linaro-virtualization
[01:30] <Legendre> setting up a system for neighbor's two kids.. need to set up so that the kids have only limited (based on hours etc) access.
[01:30] <daftykins> TaitenP: "/j #channel"
[01:30] <Gallomimia> but i do run LVM
[01:30] <Legendre> what's it take to implement this sort of thing?
[01:30] <daftykins> Legendre: maybe a script that runs logout in the account, as an autorun thing
[01:30] <daftykins> no idea if there's a built in mechanism
[01:31] <Legendre> daftykins: you're about where I'm at, then. ;-)
[01:31] <daftykins> it'd be a bit rude if a kid were part way through some work, though
[01:31] <Legendre> exactly..
[01:31] <Legendre> I swear there's an internal policy thing for this.. but heck if I'd know how to set it up..
[01:32] <Legendre> used *nix since 1998 or so.. never had a need!
[01:32] <LambdaComplex> I think shutdown by default sends a wall message....but can you see those if X is running? O.o
[01:32] <Legendre> no, they output to the root terminal
[01:32] <LambdaComplex> That's what I thought
[01:32] <Legendre> err, console
[01:32] <daftykins> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ubuntu-timekpr-controls-computer-access-for-kids-not-just-internet-access/
[01:32] <daftykins> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ParentalControls
[01:33] <daftykins> 'timekpr' sounds good
[01:33] <daftykins> !info timekpr
[01:33] <daftykins> oh PPA
[01:34] <Legendre> parental controls is about site white/blacklist etc
[01:34] <daftykins> yes, but you just know you'll get asked that next
[01:35] <Legendre> timekeeper is the trick
[01:35] <sfrc> I'm trying to install firmware-atheros from apt, but I've read that it requires non-free sources enabled. How would I go about enabling them on trusty?
[01:35] <Legendre> or sounds like it, thanks
[01:35] <daftykins> note it was my top google search
[01:35] <Legendre> noted
[01:37] <daftykins> hmm looks like it's ancient
[01:37] <Bashing-om> !info firmware-atheros
[01:38] <k1l> sfrc: ubuntu got no non-free repo. that is debian
[01:39] <daftykins> that's a bit better: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/05/timekpr-restrict-computer-access-ubuntu
[01:39] <k1l> sfrc: on ubuntu its linux-firmware-nonfree
[01:39] <sfrc> !info firmware-atheros
[01:39] <Gallomimia> cre8r i'll send it privately
[01:40] <k1l> Gallomimia: stop
[01:40] <k1l> Gallomimia: dont mix debian packages m(
[01:40] <Gallomimia> i dont
[01:41] <k1l> oh sorry, mixed the nicks
[01:42] <sfrc> is it bad to add a wheezy source on ubuntu?
[01:43] <daftykins> sfrc: yes, don't do it - that's a really silly idea.
[01:43] <k1l> sfrc: just dont
[01:43] <k1l> sfrc: i told you what package to use
[01:43] <sfrc> where?
[01:43] <daftykins> up...
 sfrc: on ubuntu its linux-firmware-nonfree
[01:43] <sfrc> ah
[01:47] <brandon_> Hey everyone, is there someone here that can possibly help me to figure out a permissions issue with Apache? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
[01:47] <somsip> !ask | brandon_
[01:47] <daftykins> brandon_: put the relevant details in a paste.ubuntu.com perhaps
[01:51] <brandon_> Apologies, I hope this helps. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13589139/
[01:52] <somsip> brandon_: check the answer here with 28 upvotes http://askubuntu.com/questions/26848/permissions-issue-how-can-apache-access-files-in-my-home-directory
[01:52] <somsip> brandon_: and if its not clear, change permissions on the directory in your home (not in /var/www)
[01:52] <brandon_> I will give that a shot, thanks!
[01:53] <k1l> brandon_: "~/.." links to the users home of the actual user. if you run the apache as the "www-data" user then its not the same as "brandon"
[01:54] <brandon_> k1l: I see, so will sym linking like that even work? The site loads correctly I just get a warning about the mkdir permission denied.
[01:55] <brandon_> somsip: I think I did something similar to this before, if I change the permissions like this on the actual directory of my home will it want me to commit all of these changes as well (will git show them as changed)?
[01:55] <k1l> maybe the symlink links to the fullpath out of the shortcut
[01:55] <Scriptonaut> Hey guys, I'm using terminator, and in ncurses I'm outputing an ACS_VLINE to the screen. This should be a complete vertical line, however it's just outputting a | character. Does anybody know how I can make it output a full vertical line? I'm also using utf-8 btw
[01:56] <k1l> brandon_: but www-data is the user/group from the apache
[01:56] <k1l> brandon_: so give that folders the group to www-data
[01:56] <somsip> brandon_: if you change permissions of files/dirs that are in a git repo, those changes will be commitable
[01:57] <brandon_> Ah ya, I don't really want that because then it will get sent back to everyone on my team with executable and some idiot will probably push a site live with that.
[01:58] <somsip> brandon_: what has 'executable' got to do with anything?
[01:59] <Techno568> How do I disable animations in unity desktop?
[01:59] <brandon_> oh it's not full permissions, never mind.  But I still don't think it will work because the hosting company we use requires files to be of a certain permission.  Is there a way to do it without changing the permissions of the files in the repo?
[02:00] <k1l> Techno568: look into the "unity-tweak-tool"
[02:00] <Techno568> okay.
[02:00] <Techno568> Thanks k1l
[02:01] <Techno568> if i disable the animations will that make the computer slightly faster?
[02:01] <daftykins> just run a different DE entirely
[02:01] <daftykins> xubuntu would be far lighter
[02:01] <k1l> if you want a more lightweight desktop use something like xfce or lxde.
[02:01] <Techno568> okay. thanks daftykins
[02:02] <somsip> brandon_: set the directory permissions up correctly so that www-data can write to directories it needs to write to (logs, cache, etc) and you should be fine
[02:03] <Techno568> would elementary os be better?
[02:04] <k1l> well, its not an official desktop in the ubuntu repo.
[02:08] <brandon_> somsip: Ok, I followed that link and did one too many folders and wanted to start over, now if I try to reset my working copy I get permission denied, any ideas?
[02:08] <somsip> brandon_: use sudo
[02:12] <brandon_> somsip: I must have done something wrong, I can't even save files now, I just get permission denied.  I gave ownership to www-data then added myself to the group and gave the correct folders 775.
[02:12] <somsip> brandon_: need to logout after changing groups, and that's not the best approach. Better to change group to www-data, not ownership
[02:13] <brandon_> Oh I'll have to look up how to do that then. I'll take a look, thanks.
[02:16] <Gallomimia> can anyone teach me how-to chroot? i'm trying to run a grub-install on a system that's booting from a LiveUSB
[02:16] <awesomeslayerg> hi everyone
[02:17] <brandon_> somsip: I hate to keep bothering you, I logged out, still can't save anything.  How can I undo the permissions I gave, I followed the instructions originally on that link that you gave me.
[02:17] <awesomeslayerg> im having issues using ubuntu on my virtual box, during the install it dosent flicker but after installing it on vbox the screen keeps flickering
[02:17] <k1l> awesomeslayerg: make sure the guest-additions are installed
[02:17] <somsip> brandon_: are you in www-data group?
[02:18] <awesomeslayerg> how do i install yhe guest additons
[02:19] <brandon_> somsip: Yes, I believe so.  If I type groups myusername it shows www-data.
[02:19] <awesomeslayerg> i get to the desktop screen but it flickers alot
[02:19] <awesomeslayerg> do install it on the live cd?
[02:20] <somsip> brandon_: and the permissions of the directory you are trying to access are what?
[02:20] <awesomeslayerg> my specs are AMD FX6300, 8 gigs of ram and R7 260 1GB
[02:20] <k1l> awesomeslayerg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/GuestAdditions
[02:21] <brandon_> somsip: Shows Owner www-data create and delete files, Group www-data Create and delete files, Others Access files.
[02:22] <Gallomimia> awesomeslayerg: sounds like you have a lack of video drivers. use caution when installing, cause it always makes the display stop working for me
[02:22] <somsip> brandon_: please paste the perms - I struggle to believe youve ended up with 661
[02:23] <awesomeslayerg> i have my drivers installed
[02:23] <awesomeslayerg> you mean on the guest os?
[02:23] <k1l> Gallomimia: he is talking about a virtualbox install
[02:23] <k1l> awesomeslayerg: install the guest additions inside the VM
[02:24] <brandon_> somsip: drwxrwxr-x 4 www-data www-data 4096 Nov 30 20:32 Virteom
[02:24] <brandon_> Is that what you need?
[02:24] <Gallomimia> that's 775
[02:24] <awesomeslayerg> okay i get i have to install guest additions in the vm but how can i install it if my vm screen flickers?
[02:24] <Gallomimia> brandon_: the reason you can't save is cause you aren't www-data
[02:25] <somsip> Gallomimia: he's in www-data group
[02:25] <brandon_> Ok that makes sense. I just want to undo what I did and start over :(
[02:25] <Gallomimia> you're in that group? 0o
[02:25] <k1l> awesomeslayerg: give it more video ram inside the vbox settings
[02:25] <somsip> brandon_: actualy, paste the output of groups - lets be sure about this. Can paste here as only one pline
[02:25] <Gallomimia> agreed
[02:26] <brandon_> brandon : brandon adm cdrom sudo dip www-data plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[02:26] <Gallomimia> yep. there you are
[02:26] <Gallomimia> in the www-data group. what the error that it actually gives?
[02:26] <somsip> brandon_: paste your history - let's see what you did
[02:28] <brandon_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13589795/
[02:29] <brandon_> somsip: ^
[02:29] <Gallomimia> i don't get why you changed the owner AND the group. just the group should be enough. leave the owner as yourself
[02:29] <brandon_> If I look at the permissions for the actual file I'm trying to save it is -rwxrwxr-x 1 www-data www-data 5289 Nov 30 21:15 conf.platform_local.php
[02:30] <brandon_> Okay, Gallomimia, I would like to revert that, how can I
[02:30] <somsip> brandon_: well, sudo chown -R brandon:brandon ~/Documents/Virteom will get you back to being owner and group
[02:31] <brandon_> Perfect, I can save again.
[02:31] <Gallomimia> but now the webserver can't read it
[02:32] <k1l> read: yes. write: no
[02:32] <Gallomimia> you could have left the group as is while changing the owner. but for some reason people keep giving you commands that change both
[02:32] <somsip> brandon_: this is maybe a clearer explanation of what you need to do to set it up correctly http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9133024/www-data-permissions
[02:32] <Gallomimia> that's much better. read a website
[02:33] <k1l> brandon_: you can change the group only with "chgrp"
[02:33] <Azi> http://pastebin.com/NxZsqE7A Does someone know how to resolve this?
[02:33] <Gallomimia> the principle of least privledge suggests that you leave permissions of everyone at zero, while granting read-only to the group www-data
[02:33] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: Full CHRoot -> (RE-)install grub, the way I do it: ' sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt ; for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[02:34] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: i think you for the response, but as usually, i'm lost shortly after mount
[02:34] <k1l> Azi: ubuntu 14.10 is dead already. so you might have ubuntu 15.04 which comes with kernel 3.19
[02:34] <brandon_> Well I'm not getting a permission denied on the server anymore, site is working fine.  Just can't figure out this 500 error which I thought was due to permissions but I guess not.  Also just to clarify I do the permission changes to what's in my home directory, not the symlinked directory in /var/www.
[02:35] <somsip> brandon_: yes - the symlink will be 777
[02:35] <Gallomimia> 500 errors are a problem with the database server
[02:35] <somsip> brandon_: do you have an .htaccess for mod_rewrite - need to allow an overide for that if you have
[02:35] <Azi> k1l: I downloaded the 14.10 .torrent file from ubuntu.com just a day ago. It should not be 15.04, right? Unfortunately I cannot boot into it to find out, would have to boot a live image. 15.10 unfortunately crashes while installing, that's why I am using 14.x
[02:36] <brandon_> somsip: Yes, we have that, I think I have the override set.
[02:36] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: ' for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done // sudo chroot /mnt ; grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX ; exit ' and I back out of the CHRoot on each individual bind .
[02:36] <k1l> Azi: installing 14.10 will lead to a system that you need to upgrade anyway since it doesnt have a active repo. its dead. dont waste time with that
[02:36] <somsip> brandon_: fair enough
[02:37] <Dat> i used 14.10 for months had some problems with it
[02:37] <Dat> back to 14.04 and everything is smoothh
[02:37] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: i'm not sure i understand the bash scripting. and i don't know why any of it is happening
[02:37] <Azi> k1l: You are probably right. 15.10 however does not install, it crashes while running grub-install or something named like that. Installing grub anyway. Is this a bug I should report? Because it worked with 14.10.
[02:37] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: We can do this one line at a time, maybe then you understand it better ? Rather than a for loop .
[02:37] <brandon_> somsip: I think everything is working now, just to figure out this error ><.  Thanks for the help!
[02:37] <Gallomimia> perhaps it might be best to step out of this busy channel Bashing-om?
[02:38] <k1l> Azi: kernel 3.19 is not 15.10. its 15.04
[02:38] <Gallomimia> brandon_: you might be best to go into #httpd or whatever channel for your webserver
[02:38] <somsip> brandon_: I feel bad for giving you a link with bad advice in the first place, so PM me if you want help with the 500, but it's off topic for here
[02:38] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: maybe, but peer review sure is cheap insurance , particularly with a change root that you are not comfortable with .
[02:39] <Azi> kil: Yes I know. 15.10 did not work anyway. So even if the version is 15.04 and not 14.04, the functionality (installing the system) broke with the transition to 15.10, it does not work.
[02:39] <Gallomimia> alright. well the first problem i'm having is understanding the gravity of chroot. and the reasons for doing it
[02:41] <Azi> k1l: Seems like it was 14.04.3 LTS as opposed to 14.10, my bad. So since it's LTS it should still be supported.
[02:41] <k1l> Azi: yes, 14.04.3 comes with kernel 3.19 too
[02:41] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: All you are doing is moving the boot into the root of the target system . got to set up the 'binds' to the proper functions to do so .
[02:41] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: let me explain the situation. my system has a raid, crytpofs, and LVM on it. the install got broken somehow and i deleted /boot which is a separate partition from the raid. i just want to run chroot so i can run some grub-install
[02:42] <Gallomimia> also, i need to metion that grub-probe crashes on this system, and i don't know why.
[02:42] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: I know nothing about encrpyption . You may be in for a real fight .
[02:42] <Gallomimia> well, you know a bit more than me. for now the drives are unlocked and mounted while running a liveUSB
[02:43] <Azi> k1l: I see. So, back to the question, do you know how I can run the commands http://pastebin.com/GMHK7pyH when the grub prompt does not accept the file name that is in /boot/? And do you have an idea why the installation breaks in 15.10 and does not in 14.04.3?
[02:44] <k1l> Azi: just exchange the 3.16 with the actual 3.19s
[02:44] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: One bind at a time: ' sudo mount /dev/sdxY /mnt/ ' where sdxY os the target as drive - sda, say , and partiton say sda1 .
[02:45] <Azi> k1l: I did. I noted the exact file name found in /boot/ when I live booted and entered exactly that into the grub prompt. I hope I did not do any typos but I triple checked.
[02:45] <zer0_> whats the best way to dualboot on ubuntu?
[02:46] <Gallomimia> with grub
[02:46] <k1l> Azi: you can use tab-completion
[02:46] <daftykins> zer0_: with Windows? resize Windows from diskmgmt.msc, boot from USB -> install
[02:46] <k1l> !dualboot | zer0_
[02:46] <zer0_> cheers
[02:47] <brandon_> somsip: Appreciate the offer, but I think I can handle it from here :). Thanks again for the help.
[02:47] <Azi> k1l: I did try that too. The only thing I can think of right now is that maybe (hd1,gpt2) is not the right partition, I am going to all of the ones listed by "ls" in the prompt right now.
[02:47] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: what is a bind in this case?
[02:47] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: ' sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev ; sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc ; sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys ; sudo mount --bind /dev/pts /mnt/dev/pts ; sudo mount --bind /run /mnt/run ; sudo chroot /mnt/ /bin/bash ' On a normal install one is now in the install from the liveDVD .
[02:48] <k1l> 32bit efi is a total waste and should be die anyway :/
[02:48] <k1l> -be
[02:48] <daftykins> it was a trick to lock folk into win8.1 with bing, i think :(
[02:48] <daftykins> on those really cheap and nasty systems
[02:49] <Azi> k1l: Well I don't know if I would say it's got no place in this world because clearly it works if you jump through some hoops but clearly the support could be better and for manufacturers to not tell you that it's going to be very difficult to install a new OS before you delete your existing one is pretty dumb. Anyway, I'll stay on it. Don't want these 200€ to have gone down the drain.
[02:49] <daftykins> no they do that by design to keep you locked on the OS it came with
[02:50] <daftykins> surprised it's taking so long to resolve
[02:51] <Azi> daftykins: I mean I would take it back if I could. I just upgraded to Win 10 and didn't want it anymore so I thought I'll just install something else. BIG mistake. Thank you again for your help yesterday by the way.
[02:52] <Gallomimia> okay wait. what are you trying to do with the dual boot?
[02:55] <Gallomimia> Bashing-om: i'm still lost about why the --bind flag is used. and what is all that other stuff? pts and sys and proc. i see that you need to execute bash as part of the chroot command. i'm going to read the man pages for mount now
[02:56] <daftykins> Azi: i don't even remember yesterday
[03:00] <jebadia> yo
[03:13] <x-ip> hi!
[03:14] <daftykins> hello
[03:14] <wincrypt> hi
[03:15] <ky13a> hi
[03:15] <x-ip> hi ky13a
[03:16] <Bashing-om> Gallomimia: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Change_Root ; https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB2 ; https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#Install_to_partition_or_partitionless_disk ' Old, but still with relevant info .
[03:22] <wincrypt> lol
[03:22] <wincrypt> hello?
[03:22] <daftykins> hi
[03:22] <daftykins> do you have a support question?
[03:22] <wincrypt> no thanks, i tested my created application
[03:23] <daftykins> what?
[03:23] <wincrypt> my tested my software
[03:23] <daftykins> if you made an IRC client, don't use us for testing :P
[03:23] <wincrypt> it's my IRC Client write in Visual Basic
[03:24] <wincrypt> look https://wincrypt.org
[03:24] <daftykins> no
[03:24] <wincrypt> ok
[03:24] <daftykins> !ot | wincrypt
[03:24] <wincrypt> ah ok sry
[03:24] <wincrypt> bye
[03:24] <nitish> Can I change folder color or icon in 14.04?
[03:24] <spotcomms> Is there a repo that has all of the patches the Ubuntu kernel uses?
[03:26] <OerHeks> spotcomms, no, such does not exist, AFAIK
[03:27] <Bashing-om> !repository
[03:27] <flan_suse> nitish: Should be able to use different icon themes.
[03:27] <nitish> flan_suse how?
[03:27] <spotcomms> Bashing-om: I meant a git repo with source code, not a package repo
[03:29] <OerHeks> spotcomms, there is a git, with the whole kernel, not just the patches > git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-<release codename>.git
[03:30] <OerHeks> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[03:30] <flan_suse> nitish: Under settings > appearance
[03:32] <nitish> flan_suse: Thats not what I am searching for. I need to change the color of folder.
[03:32] <flan_suse> nitish: You want to change the icon color of a single folder?
[03:33] <nitish> flan_suse: ya.. like this
[03:35] <EMPHASIS> How do I find files with '*' in the name?   I tried  find . -name *\**    but that just gave me every file.
[03:35] <nitish> Where is the default directory of wine installed programs?
[03:35] <flan_suse> nitish: You said "like this". Like how?
[03:35] <ubuntu483> hello
[03:35] <OerHeks> EMPHASIS, a filename cannot contain the *
[03:35] <ubuntu483> ubuntu help please?
[03:36] <flan_suse> nitish: Usually the default wine container is under ~/.wine/
[03:36] <nitish> flan_suse, yes I need to change the color of single folder.
[03:36] <EMPHASIS> OerHeks. Yes, they can, if created programmatically.
[03:36] <flan_suse> nitish: What if you right-click the folder > properties
[03:36] <OerHeks> EMPHASIS, no they cannot.
[03:36] <EMPHASIS> nitish: /home/<your user name>/.wine/drive_c
[03:36] <ubuntu483> can someone help me get pokerstars to work on ubuntu?
[03:38] <flan_suse> EMPHASIS: Put it in double quotes.
[03:38] <OerHeks> ( even if you use a hex editor, the filesystem will error out)
[03:38] <flan_suse> EMPHASIS: That's why find was showing you everything. You need to use double quotes.
[03:38] <nitish> EMPHASIS: thanks
[03:38] <nitish> flan_suse: change color option is not their
[03:38] <flan_suse> EMPHASIS: find /home/Documents -name "*\**"
[03:39] <OerHeks> LoLz @ flan_suse ... a * in a filename?
[03:39] <flan_suse> OerHeks: Yup, and it works. Just tested it.
[03:39] <EMPHASIS> OerHeks, yes they can:
[03:39] <EMPHASIS> > ls -al
[03:39] <EMPHASIS> total 80620
[03:39] <EMPHASIS> drwxr-xr-x 2 homer springfield    4096 2015-12-01 13:37:46 .
[03:39] <EMPHASIS> drwxr-xr-x 3 homer springfield    4096 2002-02-02 02:02:02 ..
[03:39] <EMPHASIS> -rw-r--r-- 1 homer springfield       0 2015-12-01 13:37:52 *
[03:39] <EMPHASIS> -rw-r--r-- 1 homer springfield 2630127 2015-12-01 13:37:52 almost like being in love.mp3
[03:39] <daftykins> do not paste
[03:39] <daftykins> !paste
[03:40] <flan_suse> EMPHASIS, as long as you enclose it in double quotes, you should be fine, for example: find /path/to/search/within -name  "*\**"
[03:40] <EMPHASIS> flans_suse: Will try now...
[03:42] <EMPHASIS> flan_suse: Thanks: > find . -name "*\**"
[03:42] <EMPHASIS> ./videos/work/barriers_2.iso/* barriers 2.iso.iso
[03:42] <EMPHASIS> ./music_other/
[03:43] <happyfr0gg> Is anybody familiar with the firejail sandbox app for ubuntu/mint?
[03:43] <EMPHASIS> Sorry c&p was short: ./music_other/natalie cole/unforgettable with love/*
[03:43] <flan_suse> EMPHASIS: For more than one line, use pastebin or something similar. :)
[03:43] <flan_suse> EMPHASIS: So it worked, then?
[03:45] <EMPHASIS> flan_suse: Yes, thanks. Found two files using this-> find . -name "*\**"
[03:46] <daftykins> EMPHASIS: best not to give the whole game away about your downloads ;)
[03:47] <happyfr0gg> If I use firejail to open a firefox inside its own sandbox and firefox gets corrupted some how, shut down the sandbox with firefox enclosed and then start firefox without using firejail would firefox become corrupted?
[03:47] <flan_suse> EMPHASIS: Welcome! :)
[03:50] <EMPHASIS> BFN
[03:55] <craigbass76> What's the best way to run a command that's going to take a while?  My shell keeps timing out while I wait for it to complete
[04:02] <OerHeks> craigbass76, remove shell over ssh?
[04:02] <craigbass76> OerHeks, no, I found it.  It's called screen
[04:02] <waters33637> Hi .. Anyone got a sec to help with a pptp setup on ubuntu 15.10?  Can't get it to connect
[04:03] <craigbass76> OerHeks, I'd seen a coworker use it and couldn't remmeber what he did.  Screen lets you create a "new window" to run commands in (in my case gzipping a gigantic file) and then detach, then reattach later when the comnand is done if I get kicked out of the session
[04:05] <OerHeks> screen -r >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen
[04:05] <waters33637> yeah screen is cool .. use to use it for ircd servers
[04:09] <axwhy> is recommended to install lenovo miix 3 with ubuntu 15.10?
[04:10] <daftykins> axwhy: recommended? no, will you try it? sure
[04:13] <daftykins> axwhy: did you have a more specific query about it? i'd suggest booting a live session to try it out
[04:14] <axwhy> daftykins: no, im just asking. sorry im forgot live session :) thanks man.
[04:33] <compact> hey guys. if i add a user to a group
[04:34] <compact> will it take the user out of the currwenrt group?
[04:34] <compact> if i use: sudo usermod -a -G
[04:34] <daftykins> what current group, a user can be in many
[04:34] <OerHeks> compact, no, it just adds.
[04:48] <AbuDhar> when will the new LTS come?
[04:48] <OerHeks> april, next year
[04:48] <daftykins> 16.04 = 2016.April
[04:48] <OerHeks> it can be later than that :-D
[04:49] <daftykins> true, that!
[04:50] <AbuDhar> oh ok
[04:50] <AbuDhar> So I will wait a year until I update :D
[04:51] <AbuDhar> I mean 4 months
[04:51] <daftykins> what are you on now?
[04:51] <AbuDhar> 14.04
[04:51] <daftykins> it actually takes until 16.04.1 for the LTS direct upgrades to come about
[04:52] <the_count> TJ-: Are you around for a moment?
[04:52] <AbuDhar> so will I be able to upgrade without starting from scratch?
[04:52] <daftykins> i would never trust upgrades.
[04:53] <AbuDhar> but technically it is possible?
[04:53] <OerHeks> make a live-iso on usb, backup data, and upgrade. it is possible.
[04:53] <AbuDhar> OerHeks: dunno. Maybe I should just start from scratch. :)
[04:54] <Hitechcg> Does anyone know WHY, once installed, Ubuntu gradually speeds up the speed of minimizing windows?
[04:54] <OerHeks> AbuDhar, as of 15.04 ubuntu uses systemD, i would do a fresh install too
[04:54]  * Hitechcg still has a computer on Ubuntu 14.10
[04:54] <AbuDhar> OerHeks: oh ok.
[04:55] <daftykins> Hitechcg: that's EOL, we don't help with that anymore
[04:55] <daftykins> you need to be running a supported release :)
[04:55] <Hitechcg> I mean Ubuntu does this on 15.10 too
[04:55] <Hitechcg> That /me was somewhat unrelated.
[04:56] <AbuDhar> need to restart :D just had an update
[04:56] <AbuDhar> brb
[04:56] <deskwizard> Good evening ladies and gentlemen
[04:57] <Hitechcg> And I'm looking more for an explanation than help. I understand that Ubuntu DOES gradually speed up the speed of minimizing windows, and I've seen it in dconf. I'm looking for WHY it does this, and what purpose it serves.
[04:58] <deskwizard> quick question for you knowledgeable folks in here, how good is linux (ubuntu specifically) at dealing with hardware changes? new CPU and mb on its way and I got this one perfectly set up
[04:58] <somsip> deskwizard: I've swapped mobo and cpu twice and the existing install has worked fine both times
[04:58] <deskwizard> perfect thank you somsip :)
[04:59] <somsip> deskwizard: no guarantees mind :)
[04:59] <deskwizard> somsip, no worries mate, worse case scenario I reinstall
[04:59] <deskwizard> hopefully that'll fix the whole flash/sd card mess
[04:59] <deskwizard> actually I think I'll do just that
[05:00] <AbuDhar> I am using a 5 year old laptop. It still works fine. :) It's soon 6 years old
[05:01] <deskwizard> machine here is about that old also, compilation times are just ... unthinkable would be the term
[05:01] <Hitechcg> Dell Latitude 2120 << my machine that runs 14.10
[05:02] <daftykins> Hitechcg: why do you even do something so unwise, you realise if that thing goes online it's insecure right?
[05:02] <AbuDhar> Mine is Packard Bell TS11-HR
[05:03] <Hitechcg> I barely use it. I really need to reinstall the whole OS, and I've been too lazy to copy all the crap off the hard drive.
[05:04] <AbuDhar> Ubuntu is the most popular Linux distribution ever
[05:04] <AbuDhar> I think
[05:05] <sa_> ping
[05:05] <daftykins> lets not forget the chat channel is #ubuntu-offtopic folks
[05:06] <AbuDhar> daftykins: can you unban me from there?
[05:06] <daftykins> no
[05:06] <Hitechcg> Also, I actually DO have a question. I have a Lenovo Thinkpad 11e I received from my school. (Which I've been using instead of that netbook; that's why I barely use it anymore.) Since some time point after upgrading to 15.10, either a) Xorg keeps randomly crashing or b) the entire system just completely freezes, thanks for omitting the sysrq key lenovo, the mouse is not moving, and there's nothing in the logs after a reboot. Why?
[05:06] <AbuDhar> why not ?
[05:06] <daftykins> you have an issue in there, go talk to the #ubuntu-ops folks
[05:06] <AbuDhar> daftykins: I am also banned there dude
[05:07] <AbuDhar> at least unban me from #ubuntu-ops
[05:07] <daftykins> sounds like you're pretty unpleasant then
[05:07] <daftykins> i'm not an op so i can't help you.
[05:07] <AbuDhar> no
[05:07] <AbuDhar> ikonia:
[05:08] <daftykins> do not hassle ops in the channel about your situation
[05:08] <Hitechcg> And it's random. Today I had had this on since Wednesday. Then it completely froze. Then I rebooted and it froze less than 20 minutes later.
[05:08] <AbuDhar> daftykins: let me pm him then
[05:08] <daftykins> you don't need to ask me to PM someone, geez man
[05:09] <AbuDhar> I didn't ask you
[05:09] <AbuDhar> did you see a question mark? lol
[05:09] <daftykins> "let me"
[05:09] <daftykins> i can see why you got banned now
[05:09] <AbuDhar> I don't understand why you are not banned yet.
[05:09] <daftykins> volunteer++
[05:09] <AbuDhar> bah
[05:10] <AbuDhar> go volunteer with something else.. do some charity.
[05:10] <daftykins> Hitechcg: i'd try a clean install
[05:10] <daftykins> AbuDhar: drop it, i've helped you before and i'm not looking for hassle.
[05:10] <daftykins> so do me the decency of not being an ass
[05:10]  * Hitechcg sighs
[05:11] <AbuDhar> then don't tell me what to do all the time. you are not my father.
[05:11] <Hitechcg> geez best os ever, when you have to reinstall for everything
[05:11] <daftykins> the channel has rules, get over it.
[05:11] <AbuDhar> whatever dude
[05:11] <daftykins> and you're ignored, good job
[05:12] <daftykins> Hitechcg: it's not that, i just don't believe in upgrades.
[05:12] <AbuDhar> Hitechcg: that's where Windows is more robust. :)
[05:12]  * daftykins is typing from win10
[05:12] <Hitechcg> *cough* archlinux *cough*
[05:13] <Gallomimia> um.... what? don't believe in upgrades? does this mean you're running on a VAX?
[05:13] <Hitechcg> rofl
[05:13] <daftykins> Gallomimia: OS upgrades... from release to release
[05:13] <Hitechcg> Anyways, is there actually a way to DIAGNOSE these freezes?
[05:13] <Gallomimia> oh so you mean... clean install or not at all?
[05:13] <AbuDhar> Hitechcg: there is always a way :D
[05:13] <daftykins> i'd run the live session and see if it's endemic to the kernel and release.
[05:13] <Hitechcg> Without a sysrq key? ctrl-alt-F1 doesn't work.
[05:14] <daftykins> without a fourth key, a three key combo... that doesn't make any sense
[05:15] <Hitechcg> ??? that switches to tty1, I figured someone would ask sooner or later about that
[05:15] <daftykins> yeah i figured you were getting at REISUB, but then stating TTY key combo is confusing
[05:16] <Hitechcg> Also, the problem is that sometimes this is on for a week before it freezes. I can't really have this booted to a live session with a flash drive stuck in the laptop for a week, as I use this laptop pretty much every day for school.
[05:17] <Hitechcg> daftykins: I see
[05:17] <daftykins> well you hadn't volunteered that information
[05:18] <Hitechcg> True
[05:18] <Gallomimia> yeah i can agree to that. don't "upgrade" backup and reinstall
[05:18] <daftykins> are we talking College here, or?
[05:20] <Hitechcg> High school
[05:23] <AbuDhar> why does it matter if it's college or high school?
[05:23] <Hitechcg> good question
[05:23] <AbuDhar> that's kind of off-topic
[05:23] <AbuDhar> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:24] <daftykins> AbuDhar: with every comment, you're just proving how just they were in banning you from the other channels, come on now... lets just get along
[05:24] <AbuDhar> ok daftykins
[05:25] <raddingy> hello?
[05:25] <AbuDhar> hello
[05:25] <daftykins> hi
[05:25] <SeriouslyLaugh> hello
[05:25] <SeriouslyLaugh> :|
[05:30] <Hitechcg> anyone?
[05:30] <AbuDhar> yeah??
[05:30] <SeriouslyLaugh> sorry Hitechcg could you restate your question?
[05:31] <Hitechcg> Aren't there IRC logs? -_-
[05:31] <AbuDhar> what if he just joined?
[05:31] <AbuDhar> or can't be bothered
[05:31] <SeriouslyLaugh> the latter
[05:31] <AbuDhar> it's you who is having the problem not him
[05:31] <somsip> Hitechcg: there or logs, but if you want people to help you...
[05:32] <somsip> *are
[05:32] <Hitechcg> I'm assuming that he just joined; I mean the logs that you get the big warning about when you join
[05:32] <somsip> !logs | Hitechcg
[05:32] <AbuDhar> Hitechcg: you are not that important.. restate your question.
[05:32] <daftykins> Hitechcg: if you want help, you need to work for it.
[05:32] <somsip> Hitechcg: what they said ^^^
[05:33] <AbuDhar> people are using their spare time to help so make it easy on them.
[05:33] <Hitechcg> Anyways, my computer basically keeps freezing entirely since some time like a month ago. This includes the mouse. I don't have a sysrq key, and ctrl-alt-f1 does nothing.
[05:34] <somsip> Hitechcg: what hardware tests have you done?
[05:34] <Hitechcg> Also, I understand that Ubuntu DOES gradually speed up the speed of minimizing windows, and I've seen it in dconf. But WHY it does this, and what purpose does it serve?
[05:34] <Hitechcg> somsip: none...
[05:34] <somsip> Hitechcg: second query is offtopic here - this is for support
[05:35] <somsip> Hitechcg: so there's your first step for that sort of failure
[05:35] <SeriouslyLaugh> i agree with somsip -- and to add to that suggestion, perhaps read through some of your logs to see if you can pinpoint what is failing
[05:36] <somsip> !testing | Hitechcg (here are some links to investigate)
[05:36] <Hitechcg> There's nothing in the logs at all. I've checked.
[05:36] <daftykins> it probably freezes so seriously it can't write them
[05:36] <SeriouslyLaugh> yep
[05:36] <somsip> Hitechcg: hence the suggestion to resolve it's not a hardware issue before you look for something that isn't there - eg: software error
[05:36] <daftykins> a common one one of the guys suggests is to try SSHing in at that point... but i'd bet it's gone from all network connections too
[05:37] <Hitechcg> IRC disconnects at least.
[05:37] <somsip> Hitechcg: hardly a concolusion test though is it?
[05:37] <AbuDhar> probably hardware not gettting along with kernel? am I mistaken?
[05:37] <daftykins> that's not enough of a point
[05:37] <somsip> *conclusive
[05:37] <Hitechcg> Also, Xorg crashes sometimes randomly.
[05:37] <daftykins> latest system BIOS?
[05:37] <SeriouslyLaugh> complete shot in the dark, dead reckoning guess is something hard drive related. but there are quite a few points of failure on any system so it'll take some troubleshooting to figure out what (if anything) is failing
[05:37] <somsip> Hitechcg: ok - you've got advice and now you're just wanting it to be something easy. Can't help you there
[05:38] <Hitechcg> daftykins: I believe so
[05:38] <daftykins> well don't tell me that, go check
[05:38] <daftykins> never hurts to share a quick bit of SMART info on the disk, if it's mechanical, to check the health there
[05:38] <AbuDhar> is wayland getting more and more success?
[05:38] <daftykins> sudo apt install smartmontools pastebinit && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit
[05:38] <somsip> AbuDhar: still OT
[05:39] <AbuDhar> I think it will replace xorg in future releases.. it's not offtopic..
[05:39] <daftykins> yes it is off topic, as support means support for stable things, not future tech.
[05:39] <somsip> AbuDhar: not a support issue. You've been told how it works here. Show some maturity
[05:40] <AbuDhar> I will go to #Linux. :P at least they will answer
[05:40] <daftykins> i think it's ##linux
[05:40] <AbuDhar> it forwards anyway
[05:41] <Gallomimia> AbuDhar: this is for support on ubuntu. not discussing it. try #ubuntu-offtopic those guys will talk about whatever
[05:41] <daftykins> he's banned which is why we're getting all the drama here, sadly
[05:42] <somsip> daftykins: banned from offtopic? If I'd known that, I would have ignored him earlier
[05:42] <daftykins> :D
[05:42] <AbuDhar> somsip: who cares dude .. go ahead
[05:43] <Gallomimia> alright. i'm trying to do a chroot on my system. one thing i'm trying to do is mount my separate /boot partition, but i don't know which fs type to specify. which would it be? i thought it was ext2 but it's bios boot in GUI tools
[05:44] <Hitechcg> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/zyQR6rnY
[05:50] <daftykins> Hitechcg: wow that disk is toast
[05:50] <daftykins> no wonder you've got issues.
[05:51] <daftykins> you need a new drive, STAT.
[05:51] <Hitechcg> What makes you say that?
[05:51] <SeriouslyLaugh> well I'm no expert, but Pre-fail doesn't sound good!
[05:51] <daftykins> line 76, 196 - reallocated sectors is at 767
[05:52] <daftykins> that means 767 sectors have gone bad and have been reallocated from elsewhere on disk, that puppy has failed.
[05:52] <somsip> Hitechcg: so...hardware?
[05:52] <daftykins> it's only going to keep getting worse... and worse... and worse. you need to get any data you care about off that thing ASAP.
[05:53] <Hitechcg> Oh yeah, and I'm running laptop-mode-tools - but I think I disabled all hard drive PM as it kept spinning down and back up the disk...
[05:53] <SeriouslyLaugh> hooray my complete shot in the dark was right for once!
[05:53] <daftykins> if you have nothing to backup to, i would cease using that system until you can
[05:53] <SeriouslyLaugh> :P
[05:53] <daftykins> \o/
[05:53] <daftykins> sure was
[05:54] <daftykins> usually when someone says 'slow' i do the same and often get lucky with a dead disk diagnosis
[05:54] <Hitechcg> Wait, in 14.10 Disks showed the bad sector count on the line with the temperature...
[05:54] <SeriouslyLaugh> yeah seek time is killer when a drive starts to fail
[05:56] <Hitechcg> why did i rsync my entire failing iPod Touch rootfs to HERE...
[05:56] <SeriouslyLaugh> :(
[05:57]  * Hitechcg decides to not back the backup up and hope it hasn't completely failed tomorrow
[05:58] <Hitechcg> woah
[05:58] <daftykins> heh
[05:58] <Hitechcg> that's a HUGE read and seek failure rate in Disks
[05:58] <Gallomimia> why can't i mount my /boot partition onto a different startup? even in the Disks program it won't let me mount it. should i just nuke it and format as something else?
[05:58] <circ-user-UyhqP> I seemed to have walked in during an appropriate time!
[05:59] <circ-user-UyhqP> I've been trying to get my Samsung SSD properly tuned for Ubuntu 14.04LTS
[05:59] <Gallomimia> tuned?
[05:59] <circ-user-UyhqP> I found a couple of guides etc. including the ones that address trying to install Samsung Magician
[06:00] <Gallomimia> i have a couple samsung's and i'm planning to put them in my 14.04LTS system too
[06:00] <Gallomimia> 840 EVOs ?
[06:01] <circ-user-UyhqP> The Samsung support site is supposed to have a terminal based version of their Samsung Magician software but I can't really figure that out
[06:01] <daftykins> circ-user-UyhqP: there's nothing needing doing tbh
[06:01] <Hitechcg> Wait, if it's failing, then why is it saying that the Quick SMART self-test passed?
[06:01] <havoc-hive> I have a linksys USB wifi i'm trying to make work with ubuntu 15.10. Any ideas?
[06:01] <daftykins> Hitechcg: because the tests are useless; you really don't need to know anything beyond what i've already said.
[06:01] <daftykins> havoc-hive: identify the chipset used
[06:02] <circ-user-UyhqP> daftykins I should say SSD optimization, Trim ect.
[06:02] <Hitechcg> daftykins: Thanks. I'll run a BIOS self-test tonight.
[06:02] <daftykins> yeah as i say, nothing really needed
[06:02] <daftykins> Hitechcg: why? what are you hoping to achieve?
[06:02] <daftykins> it's dead.
[06:02] <circ-user-UyhqP> @daftykins are you saying Ubuntu handles SSDs settings out of the proverbial box?
[06:03] <daftykins> most OSs do, some folk seem to add 'discard' to their fstab
[06:03] <Hitechcg> I doubt the school would believe any evidence from Ubuntu. However, from the BIOS, maybe.
[06:03] <SeriouslyLaugh> and the literal box
[06:03] <Gallomimia> last i'd heard about samsung 840's is that their firmware has a bug saying it supports something when it doesnt
[06:03] <daftykins> Hitechcg: better yet, get the manufacturer utility for disk diagnosis.
[06:04] <Hitechcg> daftykins: it's built into the BIOS diagnostics suite
[06:04] <daftykins> no that's a laptop brand one, not a Seagate one
[06:04] <AbuDhar> Seagate is not good
[06:04] <AbuDhar> but WD
[06:04] <AbuDhar> buy*
[06:04] <Guest27903> hi
[06:04] <daftykins> Hitechcg: listen, this is 20+ years of hardware experience talking, not my first rodeo.
[06:04] <Gallomimia> all of my drives are seagate. the WD's have failed on me
[06:05] <daftykins> any competent IT support department will know what remapped sectors means. especially near 800...
[06:05] <circ-user-UyhqP> Hmmm.. Anyone know where I can read the documentation for SSDs in Ubuntu?
[06:05] <daftykins> i would doubt there is any
[06:05] <havoc-hive> daftykins: shipset of linksys device? ac1200
[06:05] <circ-user-UyhqP> @daftykins thanks for settling my fears of burning my first SSD out
[06:05] <daftykins> havoc-hive: that doesn't sound like a chip
[06:05] <AbuDhar> https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-stats-for-q2-2015/
[06:05] <AbuDhar> look at Seagate failure rate
[06:05] <Gallomimia> havoc-hive: now you search for drivers and support for that chipset. but that doesn't sound like a chip model number
[06:05] <daftykins> AbuDhar: off topic once again.
[06:06] <havoc-hive> daftykins: chipset of my computer?
[06:06] <Hitechcg> daftykins: I'd assume that Lenovo's utility would have to be pretty darn good if it's in the BIOS, but whatever.
[06:06] <Gallomimia> no, of the wifi device
[06:06] <daftykins> havoc-hive: no the dongle still
[06:06] <circ-user-UyhqP> How do you change your name in IRC?
[06:06] <AbuDhar> off-topic
[06:06] <AbuDhar> circ-user-UyhqP:
[06:06] <Hitechcg> Use /nick
[06:06] <havoc-hive> daftykins: yea, linksys wusb6300
[06:06] <AbuDhar> ask in #freenode circ-user-UyhqP
[06:06] <Yust> Ahh thanks
[06:07] <Gallomimia> that's better. search for that stuff
[06:07] <daftykins> havoc-hive: no you're not understanding, brand info from Linksys is not relevant... the actual chipset used is, most manufacturers take given brand chips and give them a custom name
[06:07] <Gallomimia> AbuDhar: it seems like you really need a friend. are you that lonely you need to troll in #ubuntu ?
[06:07] <Hitechcg> daftykins: Sorry for more questions, but what's Reallocated_Event_Count vs Reallocated_Sector_Ct?
[06:07] <AbuDhar> Gallomimia: why am I trolling?
[06:07] <AbuDhar> we have to be fair here
[06:08] <Yust> To be fair I did add the #freenode channel
[06:08] <Gallomimia> i'm not sure. i'm using psychology to figure it out
[06:08] <AbuDhar> if I am talking off-topic and it is mentioned then it should also apply for someone else.
[06:08] <AbuDhar> if you are not fair in life then you will be a failure
[06:08] <Gallomimia> back to ubuntu support...
[06:08] <Yust> hah bad logic
[06:08] <Yust> yes ^
[06:08] <AbuDhar> so why did you go off-topic Gallomimia? your comment was way off-topic...
[06:08] <Gallomimia> can anyone tell me about the /boot partition?
[06:09] <havoc-hive> daftykins: realtek 8723-8812-8821
[06:09] <Gallomimia> i'm going to ignore you too now. i'm sorry about that. you seem so lonely and vulnerable
[06:09] <daftykins> Hitechcg: i couldn't tell you the difference in seagate's terms, i'm sure there's some info online though. i only know the difference between the 196 and 197 IDs off hand.
[06:09] <Yust> what do you want to know about the /boot partition?
[06:10] <daftykins> havoc-hive: i doubt it's all 3 of those :P
[06:10] <Gallomimia> Yust: i want to know what format it's typically in. i can't seem to mount it
[06:11] <Yust> Ubuntu 14.04 I think automatically writes in ext4 right?
[06:11] <Yust> Mine did anyways, installed this system about a month ago
[06:11] <Gallomimia> yes. but that's what my other partitions are
[06:11] <Gallomimia> this partition says it is BIOS Boot format. what the heck is that? i can't mount it or modify it
[06:12] <Gallomimia> so, my next idea is to erase it and put ext2 or 3 in its place. which is what i thought it was before
[06:12] <Yust> Is it the only OS on the drive? was it built with GRUB?
[06:13] <Gallomimia> i've got a pretty strange setup. it was built with grub
[06:13] <daftykins> i wouldn't use a separate /boot anymore
[06:14] <Gallomimia> good idea. except my setup won't work without it
[06:14] <daftykins> but i don't know if you're legacy bootcamp or EFI booting, if that's that mac
[06:14] <Gallomimia> no this is a different system. it's got a raid and crypto
[06:14] <Gallomimia> having a separate /boot is not optional
[06:15] <daBllemSsreggiN> is there really a demand for programmers or is that a lie?
[06:15] <Hitechcg> daftykins: Why?  Thanks for the help AbuDhar.
[06:20] <AbuDhar> what help Hitechcg?
[06:20] <Gallomimia> since right now the system doesn't boot at all, i'm not interested in saving whats on it
[06:20] <Hitechcg> [/sarcasm]
[06:20] <Yust> Did you see my link to ArchLinux @Gallomimia?
[06:20] <Gallomimia> just up there?
[06:20] <AbuDhar> Hitechcg: whatever.. :) leave me alone
[06:21] <Hitechcg> Well, have fun trolling.
[06:21] <Gallomimia> ah. ext2
[06:21] <Gallomimia> thanks yust
[06:21] <Yust> I know that's not 100% relevant but it could be a lead
[06:21] <dmoney> hello everyone whats up!?
[06:22] <daftykins> dmoney: support queries only, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:22] <Gallomimia> not a lot
[06:28] <_Sloth> hello everyone
[06:28] <AbuDhar> _Sloth: sup?
[06:29] <_Sloth> exit
[06:38] <retrojeff> where can I get support and report bugs for "mate-panel"
[06:41] <daftykins> !BUG
[06:42] <retrojeff> ok I also explained the problem in #mate channel on freenode
[06:43] <daftykins> sounds good
[06:43] <retrojeff> its regarding the file /run/user/1000/dconf/user
[06:43] <retrojeff> when this file is owned by root
[06:43] <retrojeff> things will crash
[06:44] <retrojeff> and memory will shoot up into swap memory
[06:44] <retrojeff> like desktop enviornments will crash
[06:44] <retrojeff> when this file is owned by root
[06:45] <retrojeff> removing the file and restarting the desktop is only a temp fix
[06:45] <retrojeff> we need a more perm solution
[06:45] <daftykins> oh you were here earlier then
[06:45] <daftykins> who is we?
[06:45] <retrojeff> we as in people who use gksu to launch apps
[06:46] <retrojeff> kali linux is designed around root
[06:46] <retrojeff> while I created a non root user to watch netflix in chrome
[06:46] <retrojeff> so I launch wireshark with gksu wireshark
[06:46] <daftykins> what does kali have to do with this? we don't support kali here.
[06:46] <retrojeff> and it sets /run/user/1000/dconf/user to root user
[06:47] <retrojeff> its not related to kali
[06:47] <daftykins> then why did you bring it up?
[06:47] <retrojeff> its related to gksu
[06:47] <retrojeff> gksu allows you to start apps as a certain user
[06:47] <daftykins> if you're running Kali and deceiving us then you should go to a relevant channel
[06:47] <retrojeff> so I start wireshark as root with "gksu wireshark"
[06:48] <retrojeff> it creates /run/user/1000/dconf/user owned by root
[06:48] <retrojeff> and crashes mate desktop
[06:48] <daftykins> put this in a pastebin, not a multi line essay
[06:48] <retrojeff> this probley has been driving me bat crazy for months now
[06:48] <retrojeff> its almost a 4 year old problem never solved
[06:51] <retrojeff> oh its regarding dconf actually... not just mate-panel
[06:51] <matschaffer> So I have an ubuntu 12 server here that's continually logging SEAT_SESSION_ADDED/SEAT_SESSION_REMOVED to /var/log/ConsoleKit/history - even after a restart. Anyone know where I might start looking to see what's trying to open these sessions?
[06:52] <daftykins> seat reminds me of X stuff
[06:53] <somsip> !ping
[06:54] <Neonic> hi, i have an acer laptop it doesn't have a cd drive and I have no usb sticks. What can I do? :C
[06:54] <somsip> Neonic: to do what?
[06:54] <Neonic> Install Ubuntu. :D
[06:54] <Gallomimia> you could try netboot. but you'll probably need a stick at some point
[06:54] <retrojeff> netboot
[06:55] <retrojeff> pxe style hehe
[06:55] <Gallomimia> alternately you can pull the drive out and install it with another style
[06:55] <Neonic> netbook for windows too?
[06:55] <hateball> matschaffer: Is the server running X?
[06:56] <matschaffer> hateball: it shouldn't be. Not seeing anything that looks like X in the ps list
[06:56] <daftykins> Neonic: buy a flash drive :P
[06:56] <daftykins> it's 2015 :)
[06:57] <hateball> matschaffer: Weird. All I get when searching for SEAT_SESSION_ADDED is related to console-kit, and that shouldnt be running unless you use X in some manner
[06:58] <Neonic> Will it allow me to put an IOS file on it? I know they can be hugee.
[06:58] <hateball> matschaffer: but you could look if console-kit-daemon is running anyhow
[06:58] <daftykins> Neonic: flash drives? yes
[06:58] <daftykins> that's how we all do it
[06:58] <matschaffer> yeah, it is. just not sure what's calling is `ps wuaxf` doesn't show any parents
[07:00] <matschaffer> wondering if it might be time to apt-get remove consolekit
[07:01] <hateball> It seems to be a solution some have chosen
[07:01] <hateball> Tho depending on the underlying issue, it can probably be solved
[07:02] <daftykins> what's this server do?
[07:03] <goldenfox> hi
[07:03] <matschaffer> I do have a /etc/init.d/x11-common, status does nothing though. So seems x was probably installed at some point
[07:03] <Guest68078> ##java
[07:03] <retrojeff> 3 year old bug never getting fixed lol
[07:03] <retrojeff> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=732209
[07:03] <reetika786> I want to know why ubuntu detect my usb / external HDD and I can easily mount using mount -a command... I have not install autofs
[07:03] <daftykins> don't bring debian issues here
[07:03] <matschaffer> daftykins: just runs a worker process for the rest of the stack. Shouldn't need X. Guessing maybe someone tried installing it at some point for something. It's a QA env so sort of anything goes
[07:04] <daftykins> no i'm asking what the entire server does :)
[07:04] <matschaffer> yeah, that's what it does I mean workers like rails background job workers. At least that's all CM says should be on there
[07:05] <daftykins> oic
[07:05] <matschaffer> since hateball seems to have found some cases of people just uninstalling it, I'm gonna go that route
[07:05] <matschaffer> shouldn't need X on here. and I can sort that out if someone decides it does :)
[07:05] <matschaffer> thanks folks!
[07:08] <daftykins> matschaffer: by extending your middle finger to them and schooling them on servers i hope
[07:09] <matschaffer> ;)
[07:09] <reetika786> I want to know why ubuntu detect my usb / external HDD and I can easily mount using mount -a command... I have not install autofs
[07:17] <pyari> hi
[07:18] <pyari> i need help with xrandr. anyone? pls
[07:19] <baizon> !ask | pyari
[07:19] <pyari> great
[07:20] <pyari> i tried to add a new resolution through xrandr with the following 3 commands :
[07:20] <pyari> gtf 1440 900 60 # 1440x900 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 55.92 kHz; pclk: 106.47 MHz Modeline "1440x900_60.00"  106.47  1440 1520 1672 1904  900 901 904 932  -HSync +Vsync xrandr --newmode "1440x900_60.00"  106.47  1440 1520 1672 1904  900 901 904 932  -HSync +Vsync xrandr --addmode VGA1 "1440x900_60.00" xrandr -s 1440x900
[07:20] <pyari> apparently not 3
[07:20] <pyari> but nothing happens
[07:20] <pyari> my display flickers and that's it!
[07:21] <baizon> pyari: that means its not supported by your graphics card or monitor
[07:21] <pyari> my moinitor does
[07:21] <matschaffer> reetika786: just googling, but if you're running desktop seems like gnome could be doing that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB#Configuring_Automounting
[07:23] <baizon> pyari: what graphics card do you have and drivers?
[07:24] <Guest68078> Anyone know when Vulcan is coming to Ubuntu?
[07:24] <pyari> lspci | grep VGA 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[07:24] <baizon> Guest68450: 2017
[07:24] <baizon> Jstes: 2017
[07:25] <pyari> i know my LCD and VGA supports 1440x900 coz i get them just fine on windows
[07:25] <baizon> pyari: which ubuntu version are u using?
[07:26] <pyari> ubuntu 15.10
[07:26] <pyari> on gnome
[07:26] <daftykins> pyari: a Xorg log might be handy.
[07:26] <an0n_> hi all
[07:26] <an0n_> sorry for interupting
[07:26] <Guest87938> hai
[07:26] <baizon> pyari: there is something wrong with your graphics drivers, post your xorg log
[07:26] <an0n_> what is the fast command for dns flush ?
[07:26] <an0n_> i have ati
[07:26] <daftykins> i smell a nomodeset / VESA / FBDEV coming
[07:26] <an0n_> but it says cayman
[07:27] <daftykins> that'll be the codename
[07:27] <pyari> should i paste the whole thing down here?
[07:27] <an0n_> again
[07:27] <baizon> !paste | pyari
[07:28] <daftykins> by Tux, no ;)
[07:29] <pyari> ok here you go my xorg.log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13594144/
[07:29] <an0n_> can i ASK something plz..
[07:29] <an0n_> or isnt it the ubuntu helpdesk ?
[07:30] <baizon> pyari: [56.428] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting
[07:30] <hateball> !help | an0n_
[07:30] <Kartagis> an0n_: ask away
[07:30] <baizon> !ask | an0n_
[07:30] <baizon> damn, sorry
[07:30] <pyari> sorry baizon. how do i fix it?
[07:30] <an0n_> follow the line
[07:31] <an0n_> usr baizon you mean me ?
[07:31] <pyari> yeah, of course
[07:31] <hateball> reetika786: What filesystem is on the partition(s) on the external drive? It should mount automatically unless it's a unclean ntfs. In which case you would see mention of it with "dmesg"
[07:33] <pyari> baizon: how do i fix it?
[07:33] <an0n_> the fast dns flush command in osX
[07:34] <baizon> pyari: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[07:35] <daftykins> baizon: no, we do not suggest that - nor is it even an option
[07:35] <daftykins> no wily builds - plus those downloads hose peoples ubuntu installs
[07:35] <pyari> baizon: i tried that once. it screwed the whole thing for me. i was not even able to get GUI again
[07:35] <pyari> had to do a fresh install
[07:35] <baizon> pyari: ok
[07:36] <daftykins> *nods*
[07:36] <baizon> sorry then, i dont have an intel card.
[07:36] <Kartagis> an0n_: I meant ask in the channel, not ask me in a pm
[07:36] <daftykins> !pm
[07:37] <pyari> baizon: ot
[07:37] <pyari> baizon: it's alright. thanks for your time
[07:37] <daftykins> pyari: tough call, did it work with the earlier kernel?
[07:37] <daftykins> is this a laptop or a desktop?
[07:37] <Kartagis> !pm | an0n_
[07:37] <pyari> daftiykins: it uesd to work with my old LCD. it had the native resolution of 1366x768
[07:38] <pyari> the system remains same
[07:38] <pyari> had the same setup same OS everything same
[07:38] <pyari> the funny thing is i can't even get it to run on 1366x768
[07:38] <an0n_> #ubuntu like this
[07:38] <daftykins> so, desktop? what's the monitor cable type?
[07:38] <pyari> xrandr accepts all the commands but does nothing
[07:38] <pyari> VGA
[07:38] <pyari> blue one
[07:38] <daftykins> sure you can't use something from the last decade? :)
[07:39] <pyari> haha
[07:39] <daftykins> seriously though, digital interfaces make life a lot easier
[07:39]  * an0n_ this
[07:39] <daftykins> an0n_: stop it.
[07:39] <pyari> it used to work with my old lcd :(
[07:39] <pyari> why it won't with this?
[07:40] <daftykins> pyari: check both ends of the cable to double check no pin is damaged, one specifically carries display information which your log is lacking
[07:41] <daftykins> likely your new display is not providing proper EDID info
[07:41] <pyari> i have got a dozen of them
[07:41] <jonascj> I really don't get this, I am able to wget something with 19MB/s but apt-get is fetching texlive with 19kB/s :/
[07:41] <pyari> sure changing the cable will help?
[07:41] <an0n_> test
[07:41] <daftykins> pyari: well as i say disconnect each end and look at the pins for any damage
[07:42] <pyari> aye aye sir
[07:42] <pyari> give me a sec
[07:42] <daftykins> jonascj: bad mirror perhaps, switch
[07:42] <daftykins> an0n_: you are getting very annoying, either ask a support question or leave, please.
[07:43] <an0n_> i am asking support question.. how do i ask in channel.. and what do i do wrong... my question is to flush dns cache in ubuntu terminal
[07:43] <an0n_> to speed up my inet
[07:44] <daftykins> that's utter rubbish
[07:44] <pyari> daftykins: ok i double checked the whole thing. no pin is damged as far as i can tell
[07:44] <OerHeks> an0n_, disable networking and enable again, there is no dns flush like wundows
[07:44] <Guest87938> hai everyone
[07:45] <goldenfox> anyone experienced with freeradius here? I would like to ask if it's possible to add a nas client using exec module? Thanks.
[07:45] <daftykins> pyari: does your display allow any other input types other than VGA?
[07:45] <Guest87938> sorry for intereption
[07:45] <Guest87938> how to create a channel ??
[07:45] <pyari> tbh i would not have been able to get this reso on windows if anything was wrong with my cable
[07:45] <somsip> Guest87938: /j #my-channel-name
[07:45] <pyari> daftykins: VGA only
[07:45] <daftykins> Guest87938: ask freenode stuff in #freenode though please, it's not relevant here
[07:46] <daftykins> pyari: shame, that on the monitor end?
[07:46] <jonascj> daftykins: I thought http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ would be redirect to something appropriate
[07:46] <an0n_> test
[07:46] <pyari> daftykins: my vga cards supports more than one interface
[07:46] <daftykins> jonascj: use the mirror tester in software settings -> software and sources
[07:46] <an0n_> nvm i come back when i dont need support then...
[07:46] <daftykins> pyari: well it's actually your intel chip's on-die graphics, but yeah.
[07:46] <pyari> but monitor end has got the VGA only
[07:47] <daftykins> you could try another cable for fun
[07:47] <Guest87938> k thanq sorry for an irrelevant question
[07:47] <pyari> im sure that's not gonna help as everything's fine on the windows end wth the same cable. @daftykins
[07:47] <jonascj> daftykins: I will, but I can wget from that repo (manually finding the packages) with 4MB/s, so it is like apt-get is just f*king with me. Anyway I will check the repo tester
[07:47] <pyari> xD
[07:48] <pyari> shold i try and install interl graphics for linux thing?
[07:48] <pyari> intel*
[07:49] <daftykins> pyari: no, it is pointless. i'd probably try a 14.04.3 live session to double check.
[07:49] <pyari> that's painful :c I barely get 1mb and that too when im lucky and im never lucky
[07:50] <pyari> i can't believe linux has no answer for this stupid thing :(
[07:50] <daftykins> well it'd beat messing with configs
[07:50] <daftykins> well like i said, you're using ancient gear - and there is an answer, so don't be impatient
[07:50] <daftykins> complaining about it won't solve it :)
[07:54] <daftykins> pyari: btw try cvt instead of gtf for modeline generation
[07:54] <pyari> daftykins: on it
[07:55] <daftykins> you'll need to remove what you added already probably
[07:56] <pyari> removed already
[07:56] <pyari> got this at the moment: xrandr Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 1024 x 768, maximum 32767 x 32767 DP1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) HDMI1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) VGA1 connected primary 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm    1024x768      60.00*     800x600       60.32    56.25      848x480       60.00      640x480       59.94   VIRTUAL1 disconnect
[07:57] <pyari> daftykins: good to go?
[07:57] <daftykins> that's unreadable on here, don't paste here - use paste.ubuntu.com
[07:58] <pyari> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13594512/
[07:59] <pyari> should i proceed on to addng new modes with cvt this time ?
[07:59] <daftykins> yip
[08:02] <pyari> out of curiosity: what is the diff b/w gtf and cvt ?
[08:02] <daftykins> i don't know, but when you mentioned you used that one i was only familiar with the other
[08:02] <daftykins> so it doesn't hurt.
[08:03] <daftykins> cvt also supports reduced blanking modes which are useful for non-CRT
[08:04] <pyari> im gonna kidnap the xrandr author if it did not work even with cvt
[08:06] <pyari> daftykins: it didn't help
[08:06] <pyari> added the moded just like the last time. no erros nothing
[08:07] <pyari> selecting the mode barely flickres the display and that's it. i'm back to 1024x768 which's a PAIN
[08:07] <pyari> im gonna have to change the damn LCD
[08:08] <pyari> :)
[08:08] <pyari> :(
[08:09] <Cybergeeek> morn
[08:09] <pyari>  daftykins: should i change the damn LCD? :)
[08:10] <pyari> im gonna bring in the 22' LCD this time
[08:10] <pyari> and see if ubuntu can handle it?
[08:11] <OerHeks> pyari, what if we say *no* ?
 Thnx but my question I have not enabled any automouting still on ubuntu server
[08:11] <reetika786> I can mount
[08:11] <pyari> then you better give me a soultion @oerheks
[08:12] <JamesArlen> where are all the niggers?
[08:12] <pyari> i can;t go back to windows i have already burned all the bridges :(
[08:12] <JamesArlen> is ubuntu racist because there aren't any niggers in here?
[08:12] <OerHeks> oh no, ...
[08:12] <OerHeks> !ops
[08:12] <pyari> but now ubuntu tells me it can't handle the resolution i want it it?
[08:12] <pyari> to*
[08:12] <pyari> *sobs*
[08:12] <JamesArlen> !ops
[08:13] <JamesArlen> something weird happened
[08:13] <JamesArlen> where did all the niggers go?
[08:13] <JamesArlen> i don't like the racism
[08:14] <N0body> hi
[08:14] <N0body> stil not work....
[08:15] <N0body> get me a admin
[08:15] <N0body> because my previous name dont work
[08:16] <Cybergeeek> morn
[08:16] <OerHeks> there can be only one an0n, so it is not you.
[08:16] <pyari> how do i change the resolution
[08:17] <N0body> it work ? is it ok so ?
[08:17] <pr0pz> hi
[08:17] <pr0pz> who's around?
[08:18] <N0body> hello
[08:18] <pr0pz> hi N0body
[08:18] <N0body> stil anybody got a idea to spead up ubuntu ? i just reinstal it and its very slow.
[08:18] <pr0pz> what are you up to?
 Thnx but its external HDD and its has nfts f/s
[08:19]  * N0body hi pr0pz
[08:19] <pyari> how do i change the resolution
[08:20] <daftykins> pyari: stop it, nobody else is going to have any better ideas.
[08:22] <daftykins> pyari: i really think checking 14.04.3 would be the best plan.
[08:22] <daftykins> so maybe get a torrent for it started
[08:23] <AbuDhar> pyari: what is the problem?
[08:24] <daftykins> AbuDhar: http://askubuntu.com/questions/704206/newly-created-mode-using-xrandr-on-1440x900-60-00-has-no-effect-on-my-ubuntu-15
[08:25] <daftykins> pyari: probably wouldn't hurt sharing a "cat /proc/cmdline"
[08:27] <AbuDhar> pyari: weird.
[08:31] <stelios> hello gays
[08:31] <AbuDhar> lol
[08:31] <AbuDhar> you mean guys?
[08:31] <daftykins> Flannel: ^
[08:31] <stelios> sory
[08:31] <Hitechcg> Nobody's banned you yet AbuDhar?
[08:32] <AbuDhar> Hitechcg: stop the off-topic discussion. If you want to discuss off-topic stuff then pm me.
[08:34] <alimj> Anyone using ARM based architecture for Ubuntu desktop here?
[08:34] <alimj> SBCs such as this: http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php
[08:34] <daftykins> #ubuntu-arm exists
[08:34] <AbuDhar> alimj: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/arm
[08:34]  * alimj joins that
[08:35] <Hitechcg> nevermind
[08:35] <alimj> AbuDhar: No background services (I already have one SBC for that). Full XFCE or other Unity experiment
[08:49] <Herp> he
[08:50] <Herp> somebody can help me?
[08:51] <AbuDhar> with what? state your problem
[08:51] <phiona> how do we disconnect a virtual box vm from the internet?
[08:51] <skweek> omg I want to say unplug it so bad
[08:52] <Herp> this is my first using Ubuntu,
[08:52] <An0n3l1T3> info An0n3l1T3
[08:52] <AbuDhar> Herp: ok :)
[08:52] <daftykins> phiona: don't attach its' NIC.
[08:53] <OerHeks> phiona, use NAT instead of bridged networking, or disable networkmanager or pull the internet cable.
[08:53] <skweek> hey phiona, it's really easy to do, select the VM, under Machines > settings uncheck enable network adaptor.. but join #vbox for virtualbox related questions!
[08:53] <Herp> i not okay :D
[08:53] <AbuDhar> Herp: hehe why not?
[08:53] <skweek> congratz herb, may I suggest trying linux mint too! another great distribution
[08:54] <skweek> Herp*
[08:55] <daftykins> forget Mint
[08:55] <OerHeks> skweek, mint is slower.
[08:55] <Herp> i using ubuntu version 15.10
[08:56] <An0n3l1T3> check
[08:56] <daftykins> Herp: that's nice, this is a support channel so if you have any support queries this is the place, otherwise join #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[08:56] <daftykins> !test | An0n3l1T3
[08:56] <An0n3l1T3> hmm
[08:56] <An0n3l1T3> ok i want support, im new to ubunu
[08:57] <Herp> oke :D
[08:57] <daftykins> ask a question
[08:57] <AbuDhar> s/ubunu/ubuntu
[08:57] <An0n3l1T3> i have iupdated upgraded and everything on terminal, also 3th party's and stuff like that
[08:58] <An0n3l1T3> any other important things for security and privacy in ubuntu ?
[08:58] <Herp> nah i dont know about terminal :D
[08:58] <Herp> can somebody help about that?
[08:59] <AbuDhar> Herp: what do you want to do with the terminal? can you be a bit more specific?
[08:59] <An0n3l1T3> yeah learning
[08:59] <An0n3l1T3> thats why i toke linux
[09:00] <skweek> CodeAcademy has a great commandline learning lesson! I suggest checking it out if you want to learn the terminal!
[09:00] <An0n3l1T3> windows is everytime the same and apple let me dont speak about that :D
[09:00] <An0n3l1T3> give me
[09:00] <An0n3l1T3> let me guess
[09:00] <An0n3l1T3> exit
[09:00] <daftykins> Herp: you need to be more specific really, what do you want to do? learn it?
[09:00] <Herp> i want hack some wifi in my city, but i dont know steps
[09:00] <An0n3l1T3> or the one that i put in already
[09:01] <AbuDhar> hahaha
[09:01] <Herp> soorry muy gram is bad :3
[09:01] <daftykins> Herp: that's not permitted here nor on this entire IRC network, so find somewhere else for that topic.
[09:01] <An0n3l1T3> i know hacking but i have ubuntu on my pc now
[09:01] <Herp> sorry my gram is bad :3
[09:01] <An0n3l1T3> dont let me go offtopic
[09:01] <An0n3l1T3> you can check it if you want so
[09:01] <Herp> anon can u help me :)
[09:01]  * AbuDhar lols
[09:01] <An0n3l1T3> with
[09:02] <Herp> An0n send file for step hacking :D
[09:02] <An0n3l1T3> who is step ?
[09:03] <An0n3l1T3> that super user
[09:04] <phiona> how do we disconnect a virtual box vm from the internet?
[09:05] <daftykins> phiona: you have already been told. change the network interface it is attached to.
[09:05] <OerHeks> phiona, time to read back:-)
[09:11] <bosyi> hi. is there a possibility to set "sticky edges" in dual monitor setup in ubuntu gnome?
[09:11] <AbuDhar> what do you mean by sticky edges?
[09:12] <bosyi> like in ubuntu ccsm. set 'pressure' value to move mouse in second monitor
[09:15] <daftykins> i'd ask the gnome folks
[09:15] <bosyi> #gnome channel is dead..
[09:16] <daftykins> you have to be patient in these matters
[09:16] <OerHeks> bosyi, if it was unity, go to systemsettings > Displays and enable Sticky edges.
[09:16] <bosyi> unity. start to missing for it
[09:20] <DJones> bosyi: I found this http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/05/31/%23ubuntu-gnome.html which seems to suggest that Gnome doesn't use sticky edges there's a mention at 11:02 in the log
[09:21] <bosyi> DJones, thanks for looking for it. to be honest i felt something like that...
[09:21] <greyline> hy all
[09:23] <greyline> i bough a new notebook and i successfully pressed something what closed the setting window in the beginning. i have restarted ubuntu and now i can only login with guest account and cant create new one. whst to do? how to reset everything?
[09:24] <daftykins> !recovery | greyline
[09:24] <daftykins> use this to create an account
[09:27] <An0n3l1T3> why a account ?
[09:28] <An0n3l1T3> if its real it gives more motivation to learn
[09:28] <daftykins> because you need user accounts to log in.
[09:28] <daftykins> An0n3l1T3: nothing of what you are saying makes sense
[09:29] <An0n3l1T3> no ?
[09:29] <An0n3l1T3> like what
[09:29] <An0n3l1T3> give me 1 thing
[09:29] <An0n3l1T3> that makes sense, en i will change my nick :P
[09:31] <greyline> daftykins and what will happen after this?
[09:33] <Hitechcg> wat
[09:33] <Hitechcg> An0n3l1T3: nothing of what you are saying makes sense
[09:35] <poorBastard> i would like to share something very serious witha bit of comedy
[09:35] <poorBastard> got time
[09:35] <poorBastard> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1f7pUd2bxs
[09:36] <OerHeks> poorBastard, no comedy please, this is ubuntu support only.
[09:36] <poorBastard> sorry, hey while im here i migh as well ask
[09:37] <poorBastard> i have ran ubuntu on many machines , my dream would to beable to run a lighter weight version of gnome to let me run win10 vbox, i dont like dualboot
[09:37] <poorBastard> what would be the smoothest way to do this
[09:37] <poorBastard> should i shut stuff down
[09:38] <daftykins> greyline: you want to boot to a root shell prompt ideally
[09:38] <poorBastard> thats a good idea like startx
[09:39] <poorBastard> does vmware run better
[09:40] <daftykins> than what
[09:40] <poorBastard> vbox
[09:40] <daftykins> poorBastard: change your nick if you want help
[09:45] <AbuDhar> hahaaha
[09:54] <sruli> i am trying to format and partition an external drive with Disks, when ever i try to format i get an error "udisks-error-quark, 0" as its a GPT table gparted does not recognise it correctly so cant use gparted
[09:54] <CGHitech> disks is a buggy pos
[09:54] <sruli> CGHitech: what should i use for something with a gpt table?
[09:55] <CGHitech> gparted
[09:55] <sruli> CGHitech: gparted first trhows an error about it being a GTP table and then recognises my 500GB ssd as a 576MB volume
[09:56] <CGHitech> just recreate the partition table, I think it's in Tools (warning: will erase entire disk)
[09:56] <sruli> CGHitech: tried, result is new 576MB drive
[09:56] <daftykins> sruli: does "sudo parted -l" display it correctly?
[09:57] <daftykins> share with "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" if possible.
[09:57] <sruli> daftykins: no, lsblk does, will pastebin 1 min
[09:58] <CGHitech> It's Device > Create partition table...
[09:58] <CGHitech> In GParted
[09:59] <sruli>  CGHitech: i've done that countless times,
[10:00] <daftykins> sruli: how big is this disk? what type?
[10:02] <sruli> daftykins: 500GB crucial SSD drive, for some reason parted does not see it at all, i only see it in disks and in lsblk
[10:02] <daftykins> sruli: how is it connected?
[10:04] <sruli> daftykins: USB with sata adaptor
[10:05] <daftykins> ok, anything unhappy looking from "dmesg | tail" ?
[10:05] <daftykins> (don't paste here, use http://paste.ubuntu.com )
[10:16] <Guest84845> Relou
[10:16] <sruli> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13596299/
[10:16] <Guest84845> relou
[10:18] <momomo> how do you take a screenshot in gnome 3 ? it doesn't seem to be working at all.
[10:21] <sruli> daftykins: u checked the paste?
[10:27] <gabar> Hi there. How can I install OpenConnect 7.06 on Ubuntu 14.04? Is there a dedicated PPA for OpenConnect?
[10:28] <OerHeks> gabar, not, 7.06 is available for wily 15.10 .. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openconnect
[10:29] <gabar> I know it's available for Wily, but I need it for Trusty if possible …
[10:29] <OerHeks> nope, i guess you need to build it yourself then
[10:30] <gabar> OerHeks: Thx.
[10:33] <daftykins> sruli: sorry i wandered off, so yeah nothing wrong with that, you just need to create a table now :)
[10:34] <daftykins> sruli: why are you doing so from another install though o0
[10:34] <sruli> daftykins: in gparted when i create a table it sees it a a 2.74GB drive
[10:34] <daftykins> don't use gparted.
[10:35] <daftykins> try something like gdisk / cfdisk in the terminal, or just use parted itself
[10:35] <sruli> what should i use?
[10:35] <daftykins> but again, why are you doing it this way?
[10:36] <AbuDhar> what's wrong with gparted?
[10:36] <sruli> daftykins: what way should i do it? i need to partition the drive to make it ready to clone some partitions from other drive
[10:36] <daftykins> sruli: i'd just let clonezilla deal with that
[10:37] <sruli> daftykins: clonzilla for copying partitions asks to which partition to copy to
[10:37] <daftykins> mmhmm
[10:37] <daftykins> i wouldn't personally do part to part
[10:38] <daftykins> what are you doing, moving to this SSD from the existing drive?
[10:38] <sruli> daftykins: i am copying 3 partitions from a 1TB drive to a 500GB drive, do not want rest of partitions, until now i never had a prob with part to part
[10:39] <daftykins> so make a table and off you go!
[10:40] <sruli>  daftykins: thats the problem, how do i make that table, i just made in parted mklable - gpt, the result is 2048mb drive
[10:40] <daftykins> i think your bridge is terrible
[10:41] <daftykins> it must be messing with things
[10:41] <sruli> bridge?
[10:42] <T3DY> With Ubuntu, is there any easier way of connecting to wifi?
[10:42] <sruli> T3DY: network manager not easy?
[10:42] <daftykins> the USB to SATA bridge, yus
[10:43] <daftykins> T3DY: yeah easier than what?
[10:43] <sruli> daftykins: i have been using it for a long time, i have the same problems with creating tables on usb flash drives after i dd'd a iso to it
[10:44] <daftykins> that's highly unlikely to be related, unless you've bricked your host OS install so bad it doesn't know which way is up or down
[10:44] <m1dnight_> I an having some issues with duplicity. For some reason it will not read my known_hosts file to backup to sftp
[10:44] <daftykins> sruli: so can you re-share "sudo parted -l" now that it has a (albeit wrong sized) PT on it?
[10:45] <rogger_h> Hey guys, why do i have this when i check for big files /tmp/systemd-private-VZCPIW/tmp/magento/var/log/system.log: 4.5G
[10:46] <rogger_h> it seems like its building up alot of gb how i have no idea how this file even got there or generate
[10:46] <OerHeks> rogger_h, read that log to get a clue?
[10:46] <OerHeks> or just the tail of it
[10:48] <OerHeks> tail -f /path/to/file.log
[10:48] <rogger_h> i know whats the log
[10:48] <rogger_h> its normal magento log
[10:48] <OerHeks> looks like magento is screaming about something.
[10:49] <sruli> daftykins: i added 3 small partitions to it http://paste.ubuntu.com/13596722/
[10:49] <rogger_h> the thing it should have been in /var/html/website/var/log/ and not on that weird path also, atm there are 2 files one in the normal folder and the second o nthe one i told
[10:49] <rogger_h> maybe it somekind of cache or something or security matter in the system?
[10:50] <sruli> daftykins: i dont think its the connection, as Disks utility and lsblk see it correctly as a 500GB drive
[10:52] <OerHeks> rogger_h, it is in the /tmp/folder, so temporary storage of something. i don't know about magento, maybe their channel can help?
[10:52] <Guest1270> Hi. Is there anybody here who can provide me information about Ubuntu logo?
[10:53] <Pricey> Guest1270: What information are you seeking?
[10:53] <Guest1270> Does Ubuntu logo is registered in any countries?
[10:53] <Pricey> Guest1270: Yes... why do you ask?
[10:53] <OerHeks> yes, worldwide > http://design.ubuntu.com/brand/ubuntu-logo
[10:54] <Guest1270> Look at this: http://baadraan.ir
[10:54] <Guest1270> It is making me angry!
[10:54] <Guest1270> They are using Ubuntu logo as their logo!
[10:54] <Guest1270> In Iran.
[10:54] <Guest1270> What can we do?
[10:54] <Pricey> The 'circle of friends' logo idea isn't really unique to Ubuntu
[10:55] <sruli> Guest1270: good luck taking iran to task
[10:55] <Pricey> Just googling 'circle of friends' brings up a bunch of similar designs fwiw.
[10:56] <Guest1270> You are right. But this one is sooooo close to Ubuntu logo!
[10:57] <daftykins> sruli: i think you should leave the PT on, then go to clonezilla to check it out
[10:57] <sruli> Guest1270: http://design.ubuntu.com/brand/ubuntu-logo there is a R next to UBUNTU not next to CoF
[10:57] <Pricey> Trademarks/copyright are complicated, e.g. it differsn from country to country and things might be perfectly fine if they're in businesses unlikely to be confused with each other. Who knows. Lawyer up!
[10:58] <sruli> daftykins: will check what clonezilla sees, but dont think there is a way around partitoning if i want it to be same size
[10:59] <sruli> daftykins: is there a software similar to clonezilla which i can use from OS without needing to use it as boot (i am cloning from ext to ext drive)
[10:59] <Guest1270> Pricey: So this might be OK! Thank you for information. :)
[11:01] <daftykins> sruli: clonezilla can both be installed and run from boot media.
[11:01] <Guest1270> sruli: Thank you, too. :)
[11:01] <JollaSailor_Simo> Ahoy!
[11:02] <pineapple1> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:03] <sruli> daftykins: tnx
[11:10] <sekange> Hello! Can someone help me with configuration of the Huion H610 (Graphic Tablet) hotkeys?
[11:13] <greyline> hy everybody
[11:14] <greyline> In a fresh Ubuntu I get the settings windows. When it asked the time zone, I accidentaly pressed something and the window has been closed. I restarted the ubuntu and I have only a guest account. What to do?
[11:15] <Bernzel> I'm using this backend service called Parse for developing. And I have a cloud file in JavaScript format. But I think because it's located in usr/local/bin I can't change the code in it. I don't have any write permission. I tried to open the file with sudo but it doesn't work.
[11:17] <greyline> so there's no admin account yet, because i haven't set any. I have only the guest account
[11:19] <robb_nl> greyline did you finish the ubuntu install? then an account with sudo rights should have been created
[11:19] <greyline> robb_nl: no I'm not
[11:19] <greyline> robb_nl: since I accidentaly closed the install window
[11:19] <robb_nl> if the install didn't finish, just re-install
[11:20] <greyline> robb_nl: I mean I have started to use a new notebook with fresh Ubuntu and the setup windows (or settings windows or whatever) appeared on the first start
[11:20] <adac> How can I get rid of this very annoying error? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f54f43a6573070d6b2a4
[11:20] <greyline> robb_nl: and I have closed that
[11:21] <robb_nl> you install from USB or dvd?
[11:21] <greyline> robb_nl: I don't know which one of my sentences wasn't clear for you
[11:22] <greyline> robb_nl: I didn't install anything. Dell installed that
[11:22] <robb_nl> ah... your device has ubuntu pre-installed... that was not clear.. ;)
[11:22] <greyline> robb_nl: yeeees
[11:23] <greyline> robb_nl: I would reinstall this if I must, but I would need to wait a lot while burning a new dvd or installing from usb...
[11:23] <greyline> robb_nl: it would be better if I would easily reopen these settings windows or something
[11:25] <eahmedshendy> Is there anyone has experience in mysql-server 5.6 troubleshooting .. I have this issue http://paste.ubuntu.com/13597116/
[11:26] <robb_nl> I don't know how Dell initiates the config process...
[11:26] <eahmedshendy> This is /var/log/syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13597005/, and /var/log/mysql/error.log is empty
[11:26] <sruli> daftykins: clonezilla does not see that drive
[11:26] <greyline> robb_nl: what?
[11:26] <greyline> robb_nl: the ubuntu setup windows were the default ubuntu windows
[11:26] <daftykins> !info mysqlserver-5.6 trusty
[11:26] <greyline> robb_nl: asking time zone, etc.
[11:27] <daftykins> eahmedshendy: smells like a package from a PPA to me
[11:27] <eahmedshendy> daftykins: what do you mean? it is a bad package? should I install it manually?
[11:27] <daftykins> oh i typo'd hang on
[11:27] <daftykins> !info mysql-server-5.6 trusty
[11:28] <daftykins> eahmedshendy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.6
[11:29] <eahmedshendy> daftykins: If I do this I will affect apparmor settings that I fixed to solved a denial message
[11:29] <akxwi_dave> I usually use taskel to install lamp stuff much easier
[11:30] <eahmedshendy> akxwi_dave: Do you mean about my issue?
[11:30] <m1dnight_> Is it normal that duplicity does not recognize my known_hosts file?
[11:30] <m1dnight_> The cron script keeps erroring because I cant accept the key..
[11:30] <daftykins> i don't think the method of installation would change much here.
[11:30] <m1dnight_> the logs show it asks yes/no, but when i do a regular ssh as that user it just works. (root)
[11:30] <daftykins> eahmedshendy: up to you then, you can keep staring at an error :>
[11:31] <eahmedshendy> daftykins: :), what do you mean, I didn't get it?
[11:31] <daftykins> well either you run what was suggested or that's it
[11:31] <daftykins> looks like my trusty server is on mysql-5.5, so are you sure you need that version?
[11:31] <akxwi_dave> eahmedshendy, yes.. always found that by using tasksel  i can get apache or mysql set up with no problems very easy to use
[11:32] <eahmedshendy> daftykins: nooooo, I don't need it anymore
[11:32] <eahmedshendy> but I can't get back to 5.5.
[11:32] <daftykins> wat
[11:32] <daftykins> sudo dpkg -r mysql-server-5.6
[11:32] <daftykins> BAM, the database engine is gone
[11:33] <eahmedshendy> daftykins: So now I should do this: apt-get install mysql-server-5.5?
[11:33] <OerHeks> eahmedshendy, so you uninstalled 5.5 ( as i read in #ubuntu-server) to install 5.6 ... but 5.5 is only available for precise 12.04/trusty 14.04
[11:33] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/%2Bsource/mysql-5.5
[11:34] <greyline> robb_nl: okay...
[11:34] <greyline> robb_nl: http://askubuntu.com/questions/161074/i-unexpetedly-deleted-administrator-account-and-the-other-accounts-are-asking-ro I wanted to use this solution
[11:35] <greyline> robb_nl: but when to hold down shift? since I restarted the notebook two times and no grub menu
[11:35] <eahmedshendy> OerHeks: when I did dpkg -l | grep mysql .. I found 5.5 and 5.6, and I did uninstall for all mysql on the system
[11:35] <OerHeks> eahmedshendy, please don't crosspost, keep it in #ubuntu-server.
[11:35] <daftykins> eahmedshendy: i'd use the metapackage actually
[11:36] <daftykins> eahmedshendy: "sudo apt install mysql-server" and done
[11:36] <daftykins> ooh a rudeler cross posting, we can't have that
[11:36] <eahmedshendy> OerHeks: But no one is there right now
[11:36] <Icebit> Good Morning everybody
[11:37] <eahmedshendy> OerHeks, daftykins you are not there too :)
[11:37] <llutz> m1dnight_: seems your cronjob uses a different environmen, use "--ssh-options [options] " to specify the known_hosts file to use. "UserKnownHostsFile=...."
[11:37] <daftykins> no, no i am not
[11:37] <eahmedshendy> Please It is very urgent problem, two days and I can't get a production server back
[11:38] <m1dnight_> llutz: I have just tried the command `duplicity...` in my shell and that too, asked to accept the fingerprint
[11:38] <m1dnight_> so im very confused about it
[11:38] <m1dnight_> But my guess is that it should be fixed now..
[11:38] <cfhowlett> server issue = #ubuntu-server channel eahmedshendy
[11:38] <m1dnight_> Yet, I dont know where it will store the known hosts..
[11:39] <daftykins> eahmedshendy: i already gave the answer so i don't understand the problem.
[11:39] <eahmedshendy> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13597397/
[11:39] <eahmedshendy> cfhowlett: Ok guys, I already posted there, I will wait for anyone to help ... thank you
[11:39] <greyline> somebody?
[11:39] <daftykins> somebody what
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> greyback: re-ask your issue once in a while mate
[11:40] <OerHeks> eahmedshendy, what is the output of:  cat/etc/issues  # as i have seen /mysql-server-5.6_5.6.27-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_amd64.deb  which means you are not up2date, trusty is on 14.04.3
[11:41] <daftykins> weirdly it seems to be the current package
[11:41] <sruli> daftykins: clonezilla does not see the drive, what other tool can i use to make a new partition table?
[11:42] <daftykins> i think your setup is just not working with it, i wouldn't like to hazard a try.
[11:42] <greyline> daftykins: I just sad that I can't even try my new notebook because Ubuntu problems...
[11:42] <robb_nl> greyline, sorry I don't think I can help... I have no idea how Dell does the configuration of their pre-installed ubuntu devices
[11:42] <sallu> Hello All
[11:43] <sallu> anyOne using Ubuntu in UEFI mode ?
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> greyback: errors? ubuntu version?
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> greyline: ^
[11:43] <greyline> robb_nl: what are things to do with dell? it's not dell revelant
[11:43] <daftykins> greyline: this is a support channel for ubuntu, not one for emotional support.
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | sallu ask your specific issue
[11:43] <cfhowlett> sallu, focus your question.  undoubtedly, somewhere in the world, some is.  and ???
[11:43] <eahmedshendy> OerHeks: Very good notice, I don't know what is that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13597457/
[11:43] <greyline> lotuspsychje: Ubuntu 14.04, preinstalled Ubuntu, I accidentally closed the first windows of Ubuntu
[11:44] <daftykins> greyline: did you create a user account yet?
[11:44] <greyline> daftykins: not yet,because Ubuntu didn't allow that to me
[11:44] <daftykins> greyline: that's rubbish, i said to boot the recovery mode to a root shell
[11:44] <sallu> i don't know how to install ubuntu in uefi mode.. my bootable USB is not detected but in legacy mode i can easily install ubuntu... help
[11:45] <bosyi> by the way ubuntu folks both installers of ubuntu (lts and current) have issue with grub-update where it uses 100% cpu
[11:45] <greyline> daftykins: and how to boot into recovery mode? I have tried that two times, but holding shift didn't do anything
[11:45] <daftykins> sallu: read the above link.
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> sallu: you need single boot ubuntu or dual boot with..?
[11:45] <OerHeks> eahmedshendy, oh oke, you are up2date
[11:45] <daftykins> greyline: try the other shift. also escape prior to boot up, you may also have been too slow.
[11:45] <sallu> daftykins, ok reading
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> bosyi: lets not talk in general, your system has issues perhaps?
[11:46] <daftykins> eahmedshendy: how come you're in charge of a server you can't drive?
[11:46] <sallu> lotuspsychje, dual boot. i installed windows 10 5 months ago in uefi mode with gpt partition table, now its time to install ubuntu alongside as dual boot but no idea how to do it
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> !recovery > greyline
[11:46] <axwhy> hi all, it safe to disable fsck in root partition?
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> sallu: read the uefi link, as suggested above
[11:47] <eahmedshendy> daftykins: I am a junior and I will be professional one day man, I just get hired less than three months till now ... No sysadmins here right now
[11:47] <daftykins> and you murdered this server? :)
[11:47] <sallu> lotuspsychje, but i am feeling its not that easy because HP hard coded the boot path for their laptop in boot when using with uefi mode
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> lol
[11:47] <greyline> lotuspsychje: Wait until the BIOS has finished loading, or has almost finished. (During this time you will probably see a logo of your computer manufacturer.) Quickly press and hold the Shift key, which will bring up the GNU GRUB menu. (If you see the Ubuntu logo, you've missed the point where you can enter the GRUB menu.)
[11:48] <greyline> lotuspsychje: this is the problematic part
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> sallu: uefi dualboot can get little puzzle yes
[11:48] <cfhowlett> does not generate confidence, m8te
[11:48] <eahmedshendy> OerHeks: I think the problem happended after I did apt-get upgrade
[11:48] <greyline> lotuspsychje: I can see the Dell logo and I press the shift (i tried every shift) and hold that down
[11:48] <bosyi> lotuspsychje, yes. i tried to install ubuntu parallel with my arch. and have unsuccess. i'm wonder if it is so small amount people hit in that bug. by the way that bug is so so long way bug
[11:48] <greyline> lotuspsychje: its just load ubuntu normally
[11:48] <eahmedshendy> daftykins: hhhhh, I hope I can get it back
[11:49] <eahmedshendy> I will ISA
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> greyback: please, lets not use this channel for every thing you try
[11:49] <daftykins> eahmedshendy: what's the story that led to this?
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> greyback: try stuff yourself and if you stuck, ask specificly
[11:50] <daftykins> eahmedshendy: have a look at the mysql logs as to why it couldn't start.
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> bosyi: can you detail your steps, where does it go wrong exactly?
[11:51] <greyline> lotuspsychje: okay. Tell me how to login into recovery mode with the help of SHIFT key
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | greyline
[11:51] <daftykins> try the other shift...
[11:51] <greyline> daftykins: I have also tried that
[11:51] <daftykins> and escape as mentioned already
[11:51] <greyline> daftykins: then I misunderstood something
[11:52] <daftykins> or just didn't read :)
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> greyback: make sure your bios is set correctly that bios allows key pressing at boot also
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> greyback: usb mouse/keyboard example in bios
[11:52] <bosyi> lotuspsychje, after it tries to recognize disk (installed os and so on)
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> bosyi: what happens then?
[11:52] <eahmedshendy> daftykins: I came and found most users use mysql-server-5.6 in their developement environment .. Suddently I discovered that this production server has 5.5 database, I just make this "apt-get upgrade" .. I got error related to mysql-server ... I don't remember the error, but I this I did a command an others installed packages is configured and installed well except that package
[11:52] <ubuntu1234212> daftykins: Hi there, you were helping me last night configuring the resolution of my Ubuntu system at work, I tried to ssh but the machine was off, now I'm at work and fixed the problem with the edid by hard setting it in grub after using get-edid tool
[11:52] <eahmedshendy> daftykins: /var/log/mysql/error.log is empty
[11:53] <daftykins> ubuntu1234212: that's neat
[11:53] <daftykins> ubuntu1234212: did you have to throw it in a xorg.conf ?
[11:53] <daftykins> eahmedshendy: and the rest
[11:54] <ubuntu1234212> daftykins: Yeah, thank you! _But_ now I've decided to plug in another monitor and both are detected as being the same edid :'(
[11:54] <greyline> daftykins: well, I tried to press ESC and then holding down SHIFT from the time the DELL logo appeared on the sceen....and nothing
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> greyback: try to enter your bios first, see if you didnt forget some options
[11:54] <eahmedshendy> I don't remember, just try to remove all mysql-server on the system (I found 5.5 5.6 from dpkg -l, I don't remember if they just clients or server), then everything went down
[11:54] <eahmedshendy> daftykins
[11:54] <greyline> daftykins: I don't even understand why Ubuntu allowed me to close such important windows as in the beginning...the time zone, the creation of user account, etc.
[11:55] <cfhowlett> greyline, my line goes to bios with f12 for one time boot options, f2 for system options. research your make/model to find the exact keystroke.
[11:56] <daftykins> eahmedshendy: jeez. backups?
[11:56] <eahmedshendy> daftykins: I have it
[11:56] <daftykins> greyline: no use crying over spilt milk, deal with the NOW.
[11:56] <Icebit> hello know how mount irc server? please send more information in ubuntu 15.04
[11:57] <bosyi> lotuspsychje, then process grub-mount eat 100% cpu. just google 'grub-mount cpu'. but there are no actual bug on this problem.
[11:57] <ubuntu1234212> daftykins: Well, I just added 'drm_kms_helper.edid_firmware=edid/my-edid.bin' to /etc/default/grub
[11:57] <bosyi> lotuspsychje, https://www.google.com.ua/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjv4oDkzbrJAhXJ2ywKHX5sCSkQFggqMAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.debian.org%2F760148&usg=AFQjCNEfvTfv6lCHNPRswPBH08ikrGrRHw&sig2=06K8U4-V1euNlt7ZE7aFYQ&bvm=bv.108194040,d.bGQ
[11:58] <bosyi> lotuspsychje, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=760148
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> bosyi: smells like something else is getting high cpu, your uefi settings good? fastboot? secureboot?
[11:58] <daftykins> ubuntu1234212: ah neat, that's handy
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> Icebit: looking for ircd software?
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:00] <ubuntu1234212> I'm having a problem with the new plugged monitor being detected as the one I configured on /etc/default/grub using drm_kms_helper.edid_firmware=edid/my-edid.bin, any ideas how to fix it?
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> bosyi: perhaps you should try the live usb mode, and test some stuff in realtime
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> bosyi: to see whats happening exactly in logs
[12:02] <ubuntu1234212> To make it clearer, I have 2 monitors now. Had problems with one, fixed it by hardsetting the edid on /etc/default/grub and plugged in another monitor, now the second monitor (different brand) is being detected as the hardset one.
[12:02] <eahmedshendy> daftykins: I think the problem happened after I did upgrade from 14.04.1 to 14.04.3
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> eahmedshendy: can you still try loading a previous kernel?
[12:03] <daftykins> eahmedshendy: and you say this thing is a production server? lol you have so much to learn in this role, restore from backup
[12:03] <bosyi> lotuspsychje, i do that it live usb. whete i detetect grub-mount process in top. by the way wich logs to look at?
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> bosyi: sure you can do a realtime tail -f /var/log/syslog and tail -f /var/log/dmesg
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> bosyi: then proceed to the step that hangs
[12:04] <bosyi> lotuspsychje, i will try that and come back
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> bosyi: how many os you have?
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> bosyi: dualboot, triple boot?
[12:06] <bosyi> lotuspsychje, i have two hard drives. both have ueifi partition. but using only one for boot archlinux. bootloader in arch is systemd boot
[12:06] <eahmedshendy> lotuspsychje: I have all of these http://paste.ubuntu.com/13597804/ and my current is 3.13.0-70-generic, which one is for ubuntu 14.04.1?
[12:06] <EriC^^> bosyi: what's the problem?
[12:06] <fabio__> I'm having issues with X.org custom mode settting with Xrandr. Hardware shouldn't be the issue since it works on Windows. Would someone familiar with this stuff take a look? http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/246579/2560x1440-resolution-over-hdmi-with-a-laptop-with-nvidia-optimus-and-ubuntu-15-1
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: he gets a 100% cpu at gurb-mount
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> grub
[12:07] <EriC^^> grub-mount?
[12:07] <bosyi> probably saused by os-prober cant detect my config
[12:07] <EriC^^> bosyi: type sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-{45..67}-generic
[12:07] <bosyi> EriC^^, yes
[12:07] <eahmedshendy> lotuspsychje: what makes me don't understand well, why all ubuntu 14.04.3 for development users works very well with 5.6 but this server is not
[12:08] <EriC^^> bosyi: sorry that wasnt for you
[12:08] <EriC^^> eahmedshendy: type sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-{45..67}-generic
[12:08] <bosyi> EriC^^, it is installer problem. both lts and current
[12:08] <EriC^^> bosyi: i'm not sure what you mean
[12:08] <eahmedshendy> EriC^^: mmm, let's do it after I solve my critical issue, I don't understand many things well
[12:08] <eahmedshendy> But I hope I can
[12:09] <eahmedshendy> I have the same issue like this guy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/699942/updating-to-mysql-5-6-27-fails-but-why
[12:09] <EriC^^> bosyi: what's the problem, what's going on exactly?
[12:09] <eahmedshendy> exactly
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: system hangs after partitioning screen finding Oses
[12:10] <EriC^^> in the Something else menu?
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> !details | bosyi enlighten EriC^^
[12:19] <An0n3l1T3> how are you guys
[12:20] <dmasiero> accessing a gvfs mount point via shell on ubuntu 15.10? The /proc/mounts shows only "gvfsd-fuse /run/user/1000/gvfs ...." but that directory appears empty.
[12:20] <An0n3l1T3> how can i flush a dns for faster internet ?
[12:20] <OerHeks> An0n3l1T3, you have asked that numerous times before, there is no dns flush
[12:21] <ubuntu1234212> I'm having a problem with the new plugged monitor being detected as the one I configured on /etc/default/grub using drm_kms_helper.edid_firmware=edid/my-edid.bin, any ideas how to fix it?
[12:21] <ubuntu1234212> To make it clearer, I have 2 monitors now. Had problems with one, fixed it by hardsetting the edid on /etc/default/grub and plugged in another monitor, now the second monitor (different brand) is being detected as the hardset one.
[12:21] <MrSpock> dmasiero: gvfs tools are usefull
[12:22] <An0n3l1T3> lets try it again shall we
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> An0n3l1T3: try it in ##networking
[12:23] <MrSpock> dmasiero: gvfs-ls, gvfs-mount -il and so on
[12:23] <An0n3l1T3> i never try, i always do.
[12:23] <An0n3l1T3> i i know how to
[12:23] <MrSpock> dmasiero: sure something is actually mounted trough gvfs though?
[12:24] <An0n3l1T3> but since its a support channel i can share my knowledge
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> An0n3l1T3: please dont use this channel, other then ubuntu support questions
[12:24] <MrSpock> dmasiero: see gvfs-mount -l (-i for even more info)
[12:24] <An0n3l1T3> i have a question
[12:25] <An0n3l1T3> how can i make ubuntu safe ?
[12:25] <An0n3l1T3> for personal use
[12:25] <MrSpock> An0n3l1T3: define safe
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> !security | An0n3l1T3
[12:25] <An0n3l1T3> not everything
[12:25] <dmasiero> MrSpock: Yes, smb share mount via Thunar. I was misisng gvfs-bin package. Will check those tools out, thanks!
[12:26] <An0n3l1T3> since it is opensource...
[12:26] <An0n3l1T3> anyway how can i check my drivers like on windows ?
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> An0n3l1T3: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[12:27] <An0n3l1T3> i mean safe not security
[12:27] <An0n3l1T3> a system can be save.. updates are patches for security
[12:27] <EriC^^> An0n3l1T3: keep it updated
[12:28] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:28] <An0n3l1T3> LTS
[12:28] <An0n3l1T3> yeah without sources
[12:28] <EriC^^> don't use ppa's or stuff not from the repos unless you're sure of them
[12:28] <An0n3l1T3> and how can i be sure ?
[12:28] <EriC^^> if you know it's reputable, or you can read code yourself if it's not that big
[12:29] <An0n3l1T3> then its too late...
[12:29] <An0n3l1T3> if you not that smart..
[12:29] <EriC^^> don't run random commands from the internet
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | An0n3l1T3
[12:29] <An0n3l1T3> anyway im going offtopic
[12:29] <An0n3l1T3> you still havent answert me.. but np
[12:30] <EriC^^> An0n3l1T3: what?
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> An0n3l1T3: you didnt ask a specific question yet
[12:30] <EriC^^> what's the question?
[12:30] <Dat> is there something that can record audio and video on a desktop?
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> !info kazaam | Dat
[12:30] <An0n3l1T3> how can you make ubuntu save ? was quastion nr one
[12:30] <EriC^^> Dat: recordmydesktop
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> !info kazam | Dat
[12:31] <An0n3l1T3> question nr 2 was where you can check the drivers for hardware like on windows.
[12:31] <An0n3l1T3> owyeah and the dns flush
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> An0n3l1T3: man ubuntu-drivers from terminal
[12:31] <EriC^^> An0n3l1T3: additional drivers from the dash
[12:31] <Dat> hrmm thx
[12:31] <An0n3l1T3> still not a answer..
[12:31] <An0n3l1T3> anyway
[12:31] <An0n3l1T3> thx for the info
[12:31] <An0n3l1T3> bye
[12:32] <dani_> ebooks
[12:32] <OerHeks> !info calibre
[12:32] <moonpunter> +1
[12:34] <moonpunter> !info ebook viewer
[12:34] <moonpunter> !info ebook-viewer
[12:35] <moonpunter> nvm it's part of the calibre package
[12:35] <moonpunter> for some reason i thought it was separate.
[12:42] <Guest5526> hello. After an upgrade to ubutu 14.04 from 12 I've encountered an issue with name resolving.  :-/ I've added a static route to my network and resolv.conf contains my preferred dns entries.
[12:42] <Guest5526> I've verified that I have a route to the IPs
[12:42] <Guest5526> Still I don't get any name resolve.
[12:43] <Guest5526> How does the name resolve pipline look like in ubuntu? :-( Is there some config file missing?
[12:45] <wapiflapi> Hi. I'm trying to install nvidia drivers, why does it tries to install so much gnome/unity stuff, things about bluetooth, usb, network, etc? http://paste.ubuntu.com/13598387/
[12:46] <wapiflapi> I'm on 14.04 LTS.
[12:48] <Volkodav> Hi ! One of my boxes is stuck at kernel 3.19.0-9 and will not update any further. Says your software is up to date?
[12:48] <OerHeks> wapiflapi, fresh install ? seems like a bunch of normal updates
[12:49] <wapiflapi> OerHeks: I don't use gnome or unity.
[12:49] <daftykins> Volkodav: sudo apt install linux-generic
[12:49] <wapiflapi> It's a server install, I don't want the DE.
[12:49] <moonpunter> how come you need nvidia drivers
[12:49] <wapiflapi> I'm trying --no-install-recommends , might work ;-) didn't think of it at first.
[12:49] <moonpunter> on a server install
[12:50] <wapiflapi> Because it's a laptop. I use the server install to not have the whole gnome/unity thing I don't want.
[12:50] <daftykins> i second the "why nvidia"
[12:50] <dersand> I have two cat-commands which i wanna run a diff through. What have i done with my syntax? diff (cat datasets/q1data.txt | grep -o '[:]\{2\}[0-9]\{4\}[:]\{2\}') (cat datasets/q1hits.txt)
[12:50] <wapiflapi> Because HDMI doesn't seem to work with nouveau :(
[12:50] <moonpunter> you can install alternative de's easily enough...
[12:50] <daftykins> being a laptop means you want no DE but nvidia? that makes no sense
[12:50] <Volkodav> daftykins: Thanks, but why won't it pick it up as usual?
[12:50]  * moonpunter has never once used Unity
[12:51] <daftykins> Volkodav: i think someone removed that package from your system, it's a metapackage which pulls in the newer ones.
[12:51] <daftykins> someone/something
[12:51] <moonpunter> i thought on LTS releases there's a wall on the kernel support, after a point you don't get kernel updates?
[12:51] <wapiflapi> I don't see the problem with starting from server and installing what I need on top, I feel like that's cleaner than installing what I want next to a bunch of stuff I don't want/neet.
[12:52] <wapiflapi> *need
[12:52] <Volkodav> daftykins: Are you suggesting the box was compromised?
[12:52] <moonpunter> are you going to use a DE at all?
[12:52] <daftykins> Volkodav: no, i'm suggesting that blob of pinkware sat in front of it, did it :)
[12:52] <wapiflapi> moonpunter: no. WM yes, DE no.
[12:52] <daftykins> perhaps unwittingly...
[12:52] <moonpunter> ok
[12:53] <moonpunter> well you're going to have to get the package for nvidia separately
[12:53] <wapiflapi> I tried the --no-install-recommends , it looks like it did what I wanted ;)
[12:53] <moonpunter> ah, good
[12:54] <hylian> daftykins: we did solve the issue that day, with it needing me to manually mount the hd. so thanks. the next morning, it just worked.
[12:54] <Volkodav> daftykins: You're probably right, but how would that "blob of pinkware" lolz have a clue?
[12:55] <daftykins> Volkodav: accidents happen, did it solve it or no?
[12:55] <daftykins> hylian: i have no idea what you're referring to
[12:55] <Volkodav> daftykins: still loading the packages at 68%
[12:55] <hylian> daftykins: i figured. let's just say you helped me, and I thank you for the help. :)
[12:56] <daftykins> yay \o/
[12:56] <daftykins> past daftykins sounds ace
[12:56] <wapiflapi> OK. Looks like I'm on nvidia now! Worked perfectly. Still no HDMI though.
[12:56] <wapiflapi> mhm.
[12:56] <daftykins> if you're X-less, how do you hope to output on HDMI?
[12:56] <moonpunter> he's got WM
[12:56] <moonpunter> presumably X
[12:58] <hylian> wapiflapi: what desktop gui are you using?
[12:58] <wapiflapi> i3wm
[12:58] <BigTroll> do girls use Ubunutu?
[12:58] <moonpunter> you may end up having to compile the packages from source (the open ones) and turn on a flag or something. all i know is it's a hassle, nvidia is.
[12:58] <wapiflapi> daftykins: never said I didn't have X.
[12:58] <Volkodav> daftykins: Got all kind of errors on install. Care to look at it?
[12:59] <daftykins> Volkodav: sure throw it in a paste.ubuntu.com
[12:59] <moonpunter> BigTroll: i worked in a mall once and the girl at the sunglasses booth was using it randomly, i was like wtf really, and struck up a conversation about how much better xfce is than unity, which she didn't agree with
[12:59] <hylian> moonpunter: ahh, but it is. xfce rocks. unity is cool but a gfx resource hog.
[13:00] <Volkodav> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13598615/
[13:00] <BigTroll> moonpunter: what a noob she was lol
[13:00]  * moonpunter is an xfce loyalist. at this point, even if he left ubuntu, he'd still be using xfce.
[13:00] <BigTroll> ok i stfu
[13:00] <hylian> i agree moonpunter
[13:00] <daftykins> Volkodav: ah har the ol' run out of space conundrum - "ls -al /boot | nc termbin.com 9999" please
[13:00] <moonpunter> well she was on a laptop with a small screen, which i believe unity was invented for
[13:01] <moonpunter> my wife likes MATE
[13:01] <BigTroll> lol
[13:02] <BigTroll> mine too
[13:02] <moonpunter> i wonder if the mate devs know that girls like their work
[13:02] <moonpunter> maybe that's why they do it, the chicks dig it
[13:02] <daftykins> take the chat over to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks, support only in here.
[13:02] <BigTroll> all girls like (to) MATE
[13:02] <BigTroll> and now comes the infamous BAN :( :( :( :S
[13:03] <hylian> daftykins: you are right.
[13:03] <daftykins> just go chat in the other channel and no trolls big or small will be harmed
[13:03] <BigTroll> ok
[13:04] <Volkodav> daftykins: http://termbin.com/rq12
[13:05] <daftykins> hmmmm
[13:05] <daftykins> Volkodav: "df -h | nc termbin.com 9999" ?
[13:05] <hylian> moonpunter: check out my desktop if you wish. http://pasteboard.co/2y0Heynu.png
[13:06] <Volkodav> daftykins: http://termbin.com/1jpl
[13:06] <daftykins> Volkodav: oh wow that /boot is insanely small
[13:07] <daftykins> Volkodav: "sudo dpkg -r linux-image-3.19.0-9-generic" then "sudo apt-get -f install"
[13:08] <Volkodav> daftykins: Should I clean it up from old stuff first?
[13:09] <daftykins> Volkodav: right now you won't be able to do much with package management, so only the above will help
[13:10] <Volkodav> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13598783/
[13:11] <daftykins> oh my bad yeah, extra must come off first
[13:11] <daftykins> Volkodav: "sudo dpkg -r linux-image-extra-3.19.0-9-generic linux-image-extra-3.19.0-9-generic" then "sudo apt-get -f install"
[13:15] <Volkodav> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13598855/
[13:17] <daftykins> Volkodav: hmm, another "df -h" ?
[13:17] <sruli> daftykins: on a win pc it read the 500GB was able to add remove partitions, i tried on a lubuntu fresh install same problem, i just tried on a ubuntu 15.10 VM and it wors fine, parted reads it fine
[13:17] <Volkodav> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13598895/
[13:18] <daftykins> Volkodav: hrmm, and "ls -ahl /boot" ?
[13:19] <Volkodav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13598918/
[13:20] <reinecath> !bongoat Kate Morton - The Distant Hours (retail) (epub).rar
[13:20] <Sagar> Hello,
[13:20] <Sagar> How can i define a gloab envvar (for my server Ip) so that i don't need to change all ip again and again in my apache2.conf
[13:20] <EriC^^> Volkodav: daftykins: 88mb /boot
[13:20] <daftykins> EriC^^: ikr :D it's insane
[13:21] <Sagar> i added export APACHE_IP_SEC="My.Server.Ip"
[13:21] <daftykins> Volkodav: do you have a USB flash drive with ubuntu on, that you can boot from?
[13:21] <Sagar> in .bashrc
[13:21] <reinecath> !bongoat Kate Morton - The Forgotten Garden (retail) (epub).rar
[13:21] <Sagar> but when i used ${APACHE_IP_SEC} in apache its not working
[13:21] <Sagar> any help please
[13:21] <Volkodav> daftykins: yes
[13:21] <daftykins> Volkodav: ok i think you'll need to come back from a live session, that one is in a bit of a state
[13:22] <EriC^^> daftykins: what do you think about just moving /boot into "/" ?
[13:22] <EriC^^> Volkodav: ?
[13:22] <Volkodav> yes
[13:22] <EriC^^> daftykins: he can do it from the session
[13:22] <daftykins> sounds like a plan :>
[13:22] <Volkodav> EriC^^: ?
[13:22] <daftykins> this one or live?
[13:22] <reinecath> !Pondering Kate Morton - The Lake House (retail) (azw3).rar
[13:22] <EriC^^> daftykins: this one no problem
[13:23] <daftykins> yip yip
[13:23] <ravenor> hi, can anyone point me in the right direction for bash to set the screen timeout to never on Trusty please? :) writing a script I am
[13:23] <EriC^^> Volkodav: type sudo cp -a /boot /boot.old
[13:23] <k1l> !warez | reinecath
[13:23] <Sagar> ??? ANY ONE
[13:24] <ikonia> anyone what ?
[13:24] <daftykins> Sagar: caps do not get our attention in a good way, they make us want to ignore you.
[13:24] <daftykins> Sagar: find the apache channel or #ubuntu-server
[13:24] <Volkodav> EriC^^: done
[13:24] <EriC^^> Volkodav: sudo umount /boot
[13:25] <Volkodav> done
[13:25] <EriC^^> Volkodav: sudo mv /boot.old /boot
[13:26] <EriC^^> Volkodav: actually hold on
[13:26] <EriC^^> did you run it yet?
[13:26] <Volkodav> yes
[13:27] <EriC^^> Volkodav: ok, type sudo cp -a /boot/boot /boot.old
[13:27] <Volkodav> cp: cannot stat ‘/boot/boot’: No such file or directory
[13:27] <EriC^^> Volkodav: hmm what's in /boot ? ls -la /boot
[13:28] <Volkodav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13599040/
[13:29] <jacek__> cw=Z]Q';j
[13:29] <EriC^^> Volkodav: ok, type sudo cp -a /boot/boot.old /boot.old
[13:29] <Volkodav> done
[13:29] <EriC^^> Volkodav: type sudo rmdir /boot
[13:30] <Volkodav> rmdir: failed to remove ‘/boot’: Directory not empty
[13:30] <EriC^^> oh, right
[13:30] <EriC^^> type sudo rm -r /boot/boot.old
[13:30] <EriC^^> then type sudo cp -a /boot.old/* /boot
[13:30] <EriC^^> forget the rmdir command
[13:30] <Volkodav> or even rf maybe?
[13:31] <EriC^^> it's ok
[13:31] <Volkodav> done both
[13:31] <EriC^^> ok, type ls -la /boot
[13:32] <Volkodav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13599083/
[13:32] <daftykins> huzzah!
[13:33] <EriC^^> Volkodav: ok, type sudo rm -r /boot.old
[13:33] <EriC^^> Volkodav: then type sudo nano /etc/fstab , go to the line that says UUID= ...... /boot , and put a "#" at the start of the line
[13:36] <Volkodav> EriC^^:  What the command to save the nano ?
[13:36] <daftykins> ctrl+x
[13:36] <Volkodav> thanks
[13:37] <Volkodav> done
[13:37] <EriC^^> Volkodav: ok, type sudo apt-get -f install
[13:39] <D4RK3D> The best theme for ubuntu?
[13:39] <Volkodav> EriC^^:  daftykins thanks for your help! It worked
[13:39] <EriC^^> Volkodav: also, type sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[13:40] <EriC^^> Volkodav: and then sudo update-grub
[13:40] <Volkodav> doesn't it re-run grub on kernel install though?
[13:40] <EriC^^> Volkodav: not, the grub-install
[13:40] <EriC^^> just update-grub i think
[13:41] <skywater> someone here who has knowldege of lotus domino / lotus agents ?
[13:42] <Volkodav> All right all done I may as well boot into a new kernel and remove the previous one to watch the space on boot ?
[13:42] <Volkodav> or we installed to /root now?
[13:42] <EriC^^> Volkodav: boot is now a part of "/" so it's not a problem anymore
[13:42] <EriC^^> yeah
[13:42] <EriC^^> just make sure to run sudo apt-get autoremove every once in a while
[13:42] <EGM> hello, im trying to install a TFTP server in my machine, but when i start the client machine to download the system files, i have an error in the DHCP process. Any hint?
[13:43] <EriC^^> and it'll remove the extra kernels and other stuff
[13:43] <Volkodav> hmm so it for installed on btrfs? It was different though
[13:43] <Volkodav> I used to have to /boot because of btrfs and other reasons
[13:43] <EriC^^> oh
[13:44] <jonasliljestrand> Hi, i'm wondering what happens if i'm updating a symlink with "ongoing" writes
[13:44] <EriC^^> are you using btrfs as "/" ?
[13:44] <EriC^^> Volkodav: type df -Th
[13:44] <Volkodav> yes
[13:44] <_DB> sup
[13:44] <Volkodav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13599260/
[13:45] <_DB> can anyone tell me a good way to make a windows vista usb
[13:45] <_DB> I say vista because its the only iso I have , winusb doesnt works
[13:45] <Volkodav> EriC^^: /dev/sda2      btrfs      61G   18G   43G  29% /
[13:45] <_DB> im currently downloading gparted
[13:45] <Volkodav> just the relevant part
[13:45] <afiskon> Hello. I'm Ubuntu 14.04 user. After installing latest updates this weekend I have a problem with alsamixer. Every time a new application start a sound (e.g. I open a new video on Youtube or start Skype) my settings in alsamixer are dropped to defaults. Any ideas how to fix this? Here is my dpkg.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/13599270/
[13:46] <_DB> i need to remove the windows hiberfile so ubuntu can access it
[13:46] <_DB> access my HDD that is ive been locked out of it by crappy windows features
[13:48] <Volkodav> EriC^^:  I have to run - be back in a few hours please let me know if that btrfs is an issue
[13:49] <EriC^^> Volkodav: ok, you have a live usb right?
[13:49] <daftykins> _DB: don't think there's an easy way to make windows boot flash drives from Ubuntu, also ugh Vista
[13:49] <Volkodav> Yes I do
[13:49] <_DB> i know i just need to create it to run command prompt
[13:49] <EriC^^> Volkodav: i think we have to undo the operation and make /boot separate again
[13:49] <_DB> so I can manually delete that file
[13:49] <Volkodav> EriC^^: So I thought
[13:49] <EriC^^> found this online "The GRUB bootloader does not support the Btrfs file system. You cannot use a btrfs partition for /boot."
[13:50] <daftykins> _DB: so you can then mount the volume from Ubuntu? there's no need
[13:50] <_DB> my computer powered off, during  a graphics card update now it wont boot and when it does screens black. so if i delete that file I ccan atleast access it on ubuntu
[13:50] <_DB> to install linux onto it
[13:50] <EriC^^> Volkodav: ok, well, i guess first you need to rm the extra 4.2 kernel you installed
[13:50] <daftykins> _DB: nah just mount it with -o force i'd think
[13:50] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get purge linux-image-4.2.0-19-generic
[13:51] <EriC^^> Volkodav: then sudo nano /etc/fstab , and remove the "#" you added on the line that says /boot
[13:51] <_DB> really?
[13:51] <logy> guys i have a real issue -> http://9gag.com/gag/3841012
[13:51] <_DB> whats the link i dont use terminal  much
[13:51] <_DB> not link command sorry
[13:51] <EriC^^> Volkodav: then type sudo cp -a /boot /boot.old , then sudo rm -r /boot/*
[13:51] <EriC^^> Volkodav: then sudo mount /dev/sda2 /boot
[13:51] <EriC^^> Volkodav: then sudo cp -a /boot.old/* /boot
[13:51] <EriC^^> and you should be good :)
[13:52] <EriC^^> then sudo rm -r /boot.old if it's all ok in /boot
[13:52] <EriC^^> Volkodav: also, sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda , and sudo update-grub
[13:53] <EriC^^> Volkodav: oh, typo sudo mount /dev/sda1 /boot
[13:53] <Volkodav> EriC^^: Yes - so it gets me back to square one - stuck with old kernel
[13:53] <EriC^^> not /dev/sda2
[13:54] <Volkodav> EriC^^:
[13:54] <EriC^^> Volkodav: i guess you need to boot a live usb, and make the /boot partition larger if that's possible
[13:54] <Volkodav> too late
[13:54] <Volkodav> ran us /dev/sda2
[13:54] <EriC^^> Volkodav: where did you reach in the steps
[13:54] <EriC^^> ok, and then?
[13:55] <Volkodav> all of them
[13:55] <Volkodav> then you said about the typo
[13:55] <EriC^^> Volkodav: ok, did you run rm -r /boot.old ?
[13:56] <Volkodav> yes i did
[13:56] <EriC^^> ok np, type sudo cp -a /boot /boot.old
[13:56] <EriC^^> then type sudo rm -r /boot/*
[13:56] <EriC^^> then type mount and pastebin it
[13:57] <Volkodav> still copying
[13:58] <Volkodav> EriC^^: Are you going to be around for 2-3 hours? I really appreciate your help but I have to run
[13:58] <EriC^^> Volkodav: i don't know, hold on a sec
[13:58] <EriC^^> just needs a min
[13:58] <EriC^^> forget mount
[13:59] <EriC^^> after sudo rm -r /boot/* , type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[13:59] <Volkodav> it is stuck at cpoying
[13:59] <EriC^^> then type sudo cp -a /boot.old/* /mnt
[13:59] <EriC^^> oh wait
[13:59] <EriC^^> crap
[13:59] <EriC^^> press ctrl+c
[13:59] <EriC^^> it's cause the "/" is mounted at /boot
[13:59] <Volkodav> ok
[13:59] <EriC^^> hold on
[14:00] <EriC^^> type sudo rm -r /boot.old
[14:00] <Volkodav> ok
[14:01] <EriC^^> type sudo umount /boot
[14:01] <Volkodav> ok
[14:01] <eahmedshendy> I need to make this line to run on boot in Ubuntu 14.04 Desktop, where I should do that, I tried /etc/init and crontab: @reboot /path/to/script .. but I does not run