 Happy Bday valorie !
[21:13] <valorie> thank you!
[21:13] <valorie> I'm back on my main machine
[21:14] <valorie> ask Thomas for the whole long sad story
[21:21] <valorie> with a happy ending :-)
 oh, I did not realise. Happy Birthday :D
[22:04] <valorie> thank you Rik!
[22:06] <valorie> RIP Paul McCartney
[22:07] <valorie> he just played Seattle Monday night
 Rip?
[22:11] <valorie> omg it looks like he died here in Seattle
[22:12] <valorie> he was supposed to do a second show tonight
[22:12] <valorie> yes I just got a Seattle Times story about his death
[22:12] <valorie> omg
 I don't see any reports
[22:17] <valorie> so far only the Seattle times reporting it; no story yet
[22:37] <RikMills> link to the report?
 Yea I'm not seeing anything.
[22:38] <RikMills> nothing on their twitter even
[22:41] <valorie> https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/music/paul-mccartney-rocks-seattles-climate-pledge-arena/ is the report of the show last night
[22:42] <RikMills> maybe he died on stage (metaphorically) ;)
[22:42] <valorie> I'm not finding anything either
 Yea
[22:42] <valorie> possibly ST jumped the gun
[22:43] <valorie> no it sounded like a great show
[22:43] <RikMills> it happens to performers sometimes :P
[22:43] <RikMills> I am sure. I am just jesting
[22:46] <RikMills> nothing on the twitterverse suggesting it is so
[22:47] <RikMills> and you know what that is like. even the faintest hint and it would be everywhere
[22:48] <RikMills> must very very annoying for these celebs
[22:48] <RikMills> "twitter says you are dead, is that true?"
[22:48] <RikMills> "ummmmmmm.......... what?"


[04:00] <nhandler> Wasn't there something I was going to bug the Canonical Sysadmins about? Probably fridge related. I'll look back through my logs in the am
[04:47] <pleia2> 20:38  * nhandler notes that we should probably setup fridge.ubuntu.com so it doesn't simply redirect to ubuntu-news.org
[04:47] <pleia2> ^^ that :)
[06:07]  * nlsthzn waves
[07:07] <MooDoo> hi all
[07:08]  * nlsthzn waves
[08:45] <NRWlion> hi there!
[08:48] <NRWlion> pleia2: ping (if you have time ;) )
[09:21] <MooDoo> NRWlion, won't be till later, she should be asleep by now 2.21am where she is
[09:23] <NRWlion> MooDoo: thats why i wrote (if you have time ;) )
[09:23] <MooDoo> :D
[14:12] <nhandler> Thanks pleia2
[14:28] <nhandler> pleia2: Email sent. Editors CCed
[16:13] <NRWlion> hi
[16:30] <pleia2> nhandler: thanks :)
[16:30] <NRWlion> hey lyz
[16:30] <nhandler> pleia2: np
[16:32] <pleia2> morning
[16:40] <NRWlion> pleia2: if you need help shifting content from google docs to forums or wiki lemme know. i will be available all weekend
[16:42] <nhandler> NRWlion: FYI, the forum post is generated via a script from the wiki markup
[16:43] <NRWlion> thx for the info :D
[16:44] <nhandler> pleia2: What days do you have planet links pulled for? I'll pull a few
[16:46] <pleia2> nhandler: through yesterdayish
[16:46] <pleia2> not all of the news stuff is good (I think one or two are how-tos, which I'm kinda meh on), so just remove stuff that doesn't look good
[16:50] <nhandler> pleia2: Is it worth including 'Launchpad News: ' at the beginning of the LP news articles? It has its own section
[16:53] <pleia2> nope
[16:53] <pleia2> was just reflex probably :)
[17:02] <nhandler> pleia2: Removed. We should also be current with planet posts
[17:03] <pleia2> \o/
[18:30] <NRWlion> hey
[20:18] <pleia2> adding 10.04 release thingy to ubuntu-news and the americas board thing
[20:22] <holstein> pleia2: i was going to go looking for that... thanks
[22:46] <pleia2> welcome DraZoro :) added you to the list
[22:51] <DraZoro> Thanks pleia2 ....That was fast lightning speed.
[22:52] <pleia2> I try :)
[22:53] <DraZoro> It is amazing indeed just a little nervous. I have been behind the desk just reading new letter on UBT ...First time I took a step.
[22:53] <DraZoro> I mean news :)
[22:53] <pleia2> well, we need more summary writers so we're very happy to have you :)
[22:54] <DraZoro> I will be more than happy. Recall I have zero experience
[22:54] <DraZoro> But will learn all that is required
[22:55] <pleia2> don't worry, a lot of people start here with helping out, and there are a few revisions of editing that happen before publication so even awful summaries written by me tend to get cleaned up :)
[22:56] <DraZoro> I feel a lot better now thanks.
[22:56] <pleia2> so we collect links throughout the week, saturday is usually when we send out the email and ask in here for people to start writing summaries
[22:57]  * pleia2 won't be around this weekend though
[22:58] <DraZoro> I will shout when I need help to any one available
[23:00]  * DraZoro is exploring http://ubuntu-news.org/ to have an idea
[23:01] <pleia2> so just to have a basic idea, we have two projects we work on
[23:01] <nhandler> pleia2: I'll be around if necessary (and am able to publish and/or teach a new publisher)
[23:01] <pleia2> ubuntu-news.org is news taken from official sources, usually written by developers or other officials within the project, we publish new articles there as they are announced just copying the content
[23:02] <DraZoro> Ok
[23:02] <pleia2> and then every week (or at least, we try every week) to release the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, which is wht we need summary writers for :)
[23:02] <nhandler> pleia2: Do you have any idea what the other WP instance on fridge.ubuntu.com is? Was that from an incomplete transition?
[23:03] <DraZoro> A lot of work takes place I am glad we have people like you and nhandler and the rest of the team to assist .
[23:03] <pleia2> nhandler: not a clue :(
[23:05] <DraZoro> Is the timezone going to give any issues ?
[23:06] <pleia2> DraZoro: nope, it usually takes a couple days to get summaries so there is usually at least a 24 hour window where people can contribute
[23:06] <DraZoro> pleia2: Thanks
[23:07] <DraZoro> I am about to go to bed it is 01:05 this side in South Africa and very cold ....freezing
[23:07] <DraZoro> Thanks a lot guys
[23:07] <pleia2> sure thing, have a good night
[23:07] <DraZoro> Will do
[23:08] <nhandler> pleia2: It sounds like we will need to reconfigure all of the fridge preferences/plugins, but we should be able to get this done relatively seamlessly
[23:09] <pleia2> nhandler: my flight is in 14 hours and I'm pretty much unavailable until monday, but feel free to move forward if you can see how and find the time
[23:12] <nhandler> pleia2: Alright. Time will be the hardest part, but it is looking like it will be pretty straight-forward (as long as Dave continues to be this awesome and responsive)


[09:17] <McKor> hallo, ik heb xampp geinstalleerd, ik schrijf 'sudo schmod +x xampp-linux-x-x64-5.5.30-6-installer.run in de terminal en hij antwoordt vindt het dossier niet!
[09:19] <SCHAAP137> schmod is fou
[09:19] <SCHAAP137> *fout
[09:19] <SCHAAP137> zou chmod moeten zijn
[09:19] <lordievader> McKor: Is het niet handiger om hem uit de repo te trekken? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:19] <SCHAAP137> McKor: kijk aub uit met zomaar dingen copypasten van internet he
[09:24] <McKor> ok, bedankt!
[13:07] <ingrid> Ik heb even hulp nodig. Ik heb ubuntu succesvol geinstalleerd op mijn nieuwe computer. Ik kan hem bij het inloggen selecteren, maar dan kom ik net echt ver.
[13:08] <ingrid> Ik krijg even een donker scherm en dan een pagina waar ik opnieuw kan opstarten of een bios-achtig iets uitkom waar ik vrijwel niets aan mag passen.
[14:42] <ingrid> Kan iemand me helpen? Mijn vraag staat al een tijdje open.
[14:44] <Kebabfish> ingrid: zie het niet als onwil, maar het probleem komt me niet 123 bekend voor
[15:53] <ingrid> I need some help getiing Ubuntu running on my new computer. It has been succesfully installed. When I login I can choose Ubuntu. It seems to start, I get a blackish screen.  But there I can not really adjust anything much.
[15:57] <dzho> ingrid: can you get a prompt if you hit Ctrl-Alt-F1
[15:57] <dzho> ?
[15:58] <dzho> pardon, ik spreek Nederlands niet zo goed
[15:58] <ingrid> ik spreek nederlands
[15:58] <ingrid> but also english if that is easier
[15:59] <dzho> for me it is, dank u wel
[15:59] <ingrid> you are welcome
[15:59] <dzho> Ctrl-Alt-F1 may allow you to get to what is called a "virtual terminal"
[15:59] <dzho> if the problem is with the graphics settings, this can allow some debugging and reconfiguration
[16:00] <dzho> it is much more tolerant of graphics misconfiguration
[16:00] <dzho> which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[16:00] <ingrid> I am now using 14.04 lite 32-bits
[16:01] <ingrid> I don't get a virtual terminal but some Intel graphics window
[16:02] <dzho> hmm.
[16:02] <dzho> perhaps restart, and instead of logging in, try Ctrl-Alt-F1 at that point?
[16:02] <ingrid> I did find a dos-terminal and a Window supershell
[16:03] <dzho> are you sure it's windows?
[16:03] <ingrid> window 8
[16:03] <dzho> so, you've made this dual-boot
[16:03] <ingrid> yes
[16:03]  * dzho is unfamiliar with the "lite" version.
[16:03] <dzho> is that Xubuntu?
[16:04] <ingrid> No just a minimum installation
[16:06] <dzho> did you pass through a grub boot prompt?
[16:07] <ingrid> I am not sure what that is, but I see nothing more than a blackish screen until the window pops up
[16:08] <ingrid> but it takes some time before that happens
[16:12] <dzho> are you at the Ubuntu log in window again?
[16:13] <dzho> or at the "restart or go to UEFI" window?
[16:13] <dzho> we can worry about grub later :-)
[16:13] <ingrid> I can only go there at the moment when I re-start the computer, but then I loose this connection
[16:14] <dzho> ok, perhaps I misunderstand what you mean by "when I login"
[16:14] <dzho> are you entering a username and password?
[16:14] <ingrid> you are correct I should say when I start the OS
[16:15] <dzho> aha, thanks.
[16:15] <dzho> I suspect the ubuntu installation is incomplete or damaged in some way
[16:15] <dzho> the part where you choose Ubuntu may be the grub window.  grub is a bootloader, which allows you to choose amongst operating systems shortly after starting the computer.
[16:15] <ingrid> Can I uninstall it and download again?
[16:16] <dzho> does the window where you choose ubuntu look like this? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GRUB_screenshot.png
[16:16] <dzho> (some of the words may be different, but that is the general look)
[16:17] <ingrid> I did switch back from 64-bits to 32-bits which I had on my old computer
[16:18] <ingrid> I start my computer I get the HP-logo and the I can choose between Windows and Ubuntu, that is where I select Ubuntu
[16:19] <dzho> and does the window in which you make the selection look like the screenshot at the URL above?
[16:19] <ingrid> Not really
[16:20] <dzho> hmm.  it might be the windows bootloader, then, about which I know very little anymore :(
[16:20] <ingrid> I get two blue buttons to select the OS
[16:20] <dzho> sorry, unless someone else in this channel has a better idea, the best I can do now is suggest you try to get help from a local linux user group or hackerspace.
[16:21] <dzho> or from Canonical
[16:21] <ingrid> I have already contact the Ubuntu support point
[16:23] <ingrid> Anyway thank you very much for your advice and time, much appreciated
[16:23] <dzho> ingrid: graag gedaan.
[16:23] <dzho> I'm sorry I couldn't be of more help.
[16:24] <ingrid> well it also reassures me somewhat, I was really getting frustrated I could not get it to work myself.....
[17:29] <zippo^> hoi, weet iemand welke programma kan ik meerdere pdf's in één pdf samenvoegen?
[17:29] <Maikel> pdfmod
[17:29] <Maikel> https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/PdfMod
[18:04] <zippo^> Yeah, pdfunite works it great under the terminal, I have a got a tips from another MATE'er :-D
[20:49] <ramiof> hallo


[16:42] <tyhicks> hello
[16:42] <tyhicks> #startmeeting
[16:42] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Dec  4 16:42:35 2017 UTC.  The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:42] <mdeslaur> \o
[16:42] <tyhicks> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[16:42] <tyhicks> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[16:42] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[16:42] <tyhicks> jdstrand: you're up
[16:44] <jdstrand> hey
[16:44] <jdstrand> This week I'm primarily focusing on things for 2.30:
[16:44] <jdstrand> * finish review-tools resquashfs tests
[16:44] <jdstrand> * investigate/implement proper fix for hotplugged devices not being added to device cgroup (mir input forum issue)
[16:45] <jdstrand> * policy updates PR for 2.30
[16:45] <jdstrand> * pickup the ssh/gpg interfaces PR
[16:45] <jdstrand> * snapd 2.30 PR reviews
[16:45] <jdstrand> * investigate biometrics observe interface
[16:45] <jdstrand> * implement screen-lock interface
[16:45] <jdstrand> * non-2.30 PR reviews as have time (eg, layouts, xdg-settings)
[16:45] <jdstrand> that's it from me
[16:45] <jdstrand> mdeslaur: you're up
[16:45] <mdeslaur> I'm in the happy place this week
[16:45] <mdeslaur> I just published an evince update
[16:45] <mdeslaur> and I have a couple more to test
[16:45] <mdeslaur> I also want to work on ubuntu-support-status this week
[16:45] <mdeslaur> and I'm off on friday
[16:45] <mdeslaur> that's it for me, sbeattie?
[16:46] <sbeattie> I'm in the happy place
[16:46] <sbeattie> I'm still researching cve triage process for snaps
[16:46] <sbeattie> I have some upstream apparmor tasks I need to get to
[16:47] <sbeattie> I am also monitoring kernel cves/respins
[16:47] <sbeattie> and I have a couple of other random issues on my plate
[16:47] <sbeattie> that's it for me; tyhicks, over to you.
[16:47] <tyhicks>    * weekly role: happy place
[16:47] <tyhicks>    * embargoed issues
[16:47] <tyhicks>    * squashfs reproduceability
[16:47] <tyhicks>    * nudge a number of things along:
[16:47] <tyhicks>     * snapd seccomp logging PR
[16:48] <tyhicks>     * libseccomp Xenial SRU
[16:48] <tyhicks>     * audit SRUs
[16:48] <tyhicks>     * libseccomp-golang upstream PR
[16:48] <tyhicks> jjohansen: you're up
[16:48] <jjohansen> I am working on making apparmor mount mediation work with the mount code rework
[16:49] <jjohansen> I will also being doing a 4.14 kernel for the kernel team
[16:49] <jjohansen> and maybe I can get some work done on updating the backport kernels
[16:50] <jjohansen> and I suppose there are several bugs to look at but I don't have any bug numbers of particular ones
[16:50] <jjohansen> sarnold: you are up
[16:51] <sarnold> I'm on bug triage this week
[16:51] <sarnold> and doing some embargoed work
[16:51] <sarnold> with libteam MIR after that, if there's time
[16:52] <sarnold> that's it for me, chrisccoulson?
[16:52] <chrisccoulson> I need to finish up rust 1.22 updates this week. There are currently 3 separate failures I need to investigate, and one of these looks like it might be the "rust builds fail randomly in launchpad" issue I had last time
[16:53] <chrisccoulson> which I worked around by continually hitting retry until it built
[16:53] <chrisccoulson> I've got an embargoed update to prepare
[16:54] <chrisccoulson> I should be able to look at this apparmor / audit work this week
[16:54] <chrisccoulson> that's me done
[16:54] <ratliff> I'm on community this week
[16:54] <ratliff> Other than that I am still working on two internal assignments and an embargoed issue.
[16:54] <ratliff> on to you, leosilva
[16:54] <leosilva> I'm on CVE-triage this week.
[16:55] <leosilva> I just published curl for precise
[16:55] <leosilva> I'll do my normal hunting too and some research.
[16:55] <leosilva> that's it for me. tyhicks it's back to you!
[16:56] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[16:56] <tyhicks> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.
[16:56] <tyhicks> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.
[16:56] <tyhicks> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/sun-javadb.html
[16:56] <tyhicks> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/yaml-cpp.html
[16:56] <tyhicks> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/most.html
[16:56] <tyhicks> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/git-hub.html
[16:56] <tyhicks> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libuser.html
[16:56] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[16:56] <tyhicks> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[16:57] <tyhicks> jdstrand, mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson, ratliff, leosilva: Thanks!
[16:57] <tyhicks> #endmeeting
[16:57] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Dec  4 16:57:30 2017 UTC.
[16:57] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-12-04-16.42.moin.txt
[16:57] <ratliff> thank you, tyhicks!
[16:57] <leosilva> thanks tyhicks!
[16:57] <mdeslaur> thanks tyhicks!
[16:57] <jjohansen> thanks tyhicks
[16:58] <sarnold> thanks tyhicks
[16:59] <sbeattie> tyhicks: thanks!
[17:03] <jdstrand> tyhicks: thanks! :)
[19:01] <handsome_feng> Hi, Is it time for meeting?
[19:01] <rbasak> Yes. Who's here?
[19:01] <sil2100> o/
[19:01] <bdmurray> I am here
[19:02] <jbicha> o/
[19:02] <micahg_work> o/
[19:04] <sil2100> Who's chairing today?
[19:04] <sil2100> Should I?
[19:05] <rbasak> #startmeeting Developer Membership Board
[19:05] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Dec  4 19:05:11 2017 UTC.  The chair is rbasak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[19:05]  * rbasak volunteers
[19:05] <sil2100> rbasak: \o/
[19:05] <rbasak> #topic Review of previous action items
[19:05] <rbasak> jbicha to send out announcement email (done)
[19:05] <rbasak> rbasak to handle ACL for osomon's chromium-browser upload rights (done)
[19:05] <rbasak> #info All previous action items complete
[19:06] <rbasak> #topic Package Set/Per Package Uploader Applications
[19:06] <rbasak> #subtopic handsome_feng for some Kylin/UKUI related PPU
[19:06] <rbasak> handsome_feng: hello! Could you start by introducing yourself please?
[19:06] <handsome_feng> Sure, hello,everyone, I'm handsome_feng, I've been an member of ubuntu kylin for more than 3 years, my main duties these days are the maintenance of UKUI and other kylin packages, my PPU application is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/handsome_feng/DeveloperApplication-PPU, and sorry for my poor english,  I may reply you a bit slowly. Thanks! :)
[19:07] <rbasak> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/handsome_feng/DeveloperApplication-PPU
[19:08] <rbasak> Questions for handsome_feng?
[19:09] <micahg_work> handsome_feng, I noticed that https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ukui-screensaver/1.0.3-0ubuntu1 was prepared before UI freeze and uploaded afterwards, can you explain how Ubuntu Kylin treats UI freeze and if this was an exception?
[19:09] <jbicha> happyaron: I'm curious whether you're present for the application
[19:09] <happyaron> yes I'm here
[19:10] <jbicha> thanks
[19:12] <handsome_feng> micahg_work: Yes, I understand the UI freeze: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserInterfaceFreeze, and this is aan exception, since I didn't find a sponner before the UI freeze. And I'm sorry for that. I will prepared the packages more early!
[19:13] <bdmurray> handsome_feng: Have you uploaded any stable release updates?
[19:14] <handsome_feng> bdmurray: No, I understand the SRU prosess: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates, and because the formar version of ubuntu kylin only add some packages on Ubuntu such as youker-assistant, indicator-china-weather and so on, It didn't need an SRU.
[19:14] <jbicha> handsome_feng: where do you find sponsors?
[19:17] <handsome_feng> jbicha: I usually email to happyaron, and if not , I will fill a bug with the tag and subscribe the sponner team
[19:18]  * rbasak has a couple of questions if the others are done
[19:18] <jbicha> handsome_feng: ok, I encourage you to go ahead and file the bug right away especially when getting close to Ubuntu release deadlines
[19:18] <jbicha> someone else may sponsor it from the queue before Aron gets around to it
[19:19] <jbicha> handsome_feng: do you know anything about becoming a Debian Maintainer? is that something you intend to apply for?
[19:20] <handsome_feng> jbicha: I have read the https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/, and yes, I want to be that. :)
[19:21] <handsome_feng> I want to apply the upload right for ukui packages
[19:21] <jbicha> thanks, I understand. I think Aron can help you later with the process to become a Debian Maintainer
[19:22] <handsome_feng> jbicha: Thanks, and I will try to learn more.
[19:24] <rbasak> handsome_feng: I believe that if I install ukui-screensaver, that will also install ubuntukylin-default-settings because ukui-screensaver depends on ukui-session-manager. Is this correct?
[19:25] <handsome_feng> yes
[19:25] <rbasak> Since ubuntukylin-default-settings changes the default Firefox search engine, I find this result surprising. I wouldn't expect to install a screensaver package and have my search engine change as a consequence.
[19:26] <rbasak> Do you have any opinion on this?
[19:27] <handsome_feng> Our parter request this, and I think we can delete this, or make it suguessed.
[19:28] <handsome_feng> Sorry for that
[19:28] <rbasak> Don't worry, I don't expect the packages to be bug free.
[19:29] <rbasak> I'm asking because I'd like to understand your own understanding of the packages for which you're requesting PPU.
[19:29] <rbasak> If you wanted to fix this, how would you change the dependencies?
[19:31] <handsome_feng> move the ubuntukylin-default-settings from depends to suggest, or just delete it
[19:31] <rbasak> OK, thank you. That answers my first question.
[19:32] <rbasak> BTW, the reason I came across this was https://askubuntu.com/questions/970219/123-sogou-com-trojan-horse-in-ukui-screensaver/970220#970220
[19:33] <rbasak> My second question: can you give me an example of something you may need to check and fix after you make an upload?
[19:33] <handsome_feng> rbasak, I will answer that, There is an other way.
[19:36] <handsome_feng>  verify that the package builds fine in -proposed, test out of -proposed and monitor autopkgtest runs
[19:36] <rbasak> OK thank you
[19:36] <rbasak> I don't have any more questions.
[19:37] <rbasak> Any further questions from anyone else?
[19:37] <bdmurray> Not from me
[19:37] <cyphermox> No questions
[19:38] <rbasak> sil2100, jbicha: any further questions?
[19:38] <sil2100> I'm good
[19:39] <jbicha> just a moment…
[19:40] <flexiondotorg> Evening.
[19:40] <cyphermox> actually
[19:40] <flexiondotorg> UKUI is base on MATE. I worked with handsome_feng when UKUI was originally uploaded.
[19:40] <cyphermox> handsome_feng: you're not asking for kylin-greeter?
[19:41] <handsome_feng> Yes, I think this time I already apply too much
[19:41] <flexiondotorg> He understands the relationship between the compoents well and I'd be happy to see him have upload rights for UKUI so they aren't beholden to seeking sponsorship.
[19:42] <rbasak> Thanks flexiondotorg! That's helpful
[19:42] <handsome_feng> flexiondotorg: Thanks !
[19:42] <flexiondotorg> Thanks to jbicha for letting me know this discussion was taking place :-)
[19:43] <rbasak> jbicha, cyphermox: anything further?
[19:43] <cyphermox> nope
[19:43] <jbicha> can I have a few more minutes? I'm still thinking and looking into uploads
[19:43] <jbicha> sorry for the delay
[19:43] <rbasak> OK
[19:48] <jbicha> rbasak: ok, I'm ready now
[19:48] <JackYu> Hi,  everyone, I'm Jack Yu from Ubuntu Kylin team. I'd like to support he have uploads rights for UKUI:).
[19:49] <rbasak> jbicha: ready to vote? Or ask a question? :)
[19:49] <jbicha> rbasak: I'm done asking questions :)
[19:49] <rbasak> JackYu: thanks
[19:49] <rbasak> OK
[19:49] <rbasak> #vote Grant handsome_feng PPU to ukui-menu, ukui-indicators, ukui-control-center, ukui-session-manager, ukui-screensaver, peony, ukui-desktop-environment
[19:49] <meetingology> Please vote on: Grant handsome_feng PPU to ukui-menu, ukui-indicators, ukui-control-center, ukui-session-manager, ukui-screensaver, peony, ukui-desktop-environment
[19:49] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[19:51] <jbicha> I hate voting no, but I would like to see you do some SRUs first and it doesn't look to me like the need for sponsorship is holding Ubuntu Kylin back much yet
[19:52] <jbicha> I encourage you to use other sponsors besides Aron, especially for the SRUs to have more variety
[19:52] <handsome_feng> Thank jbicha, I will.
[19:53] <jbicha> -1 please re-apply after doing some SRUs
[19:53] <meetingology> -1 please re-apply after doing some SRUs received from jbicha
[19:54] <cyphermox> +1
[19:54] <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox
[19:54] <sil2100> +1, I would like to see some more SRUs as well, but currently I see no blockers in knowledge or skill
[19:54] <meetingology> +1, I would like to see some more SRUs as well, but currently I see no blockers in knowledge or skill received from sil2100
[19:55] <bdmurray> +1 as SRUs would get reviewed by the SRU team anyway
[19:55] <meetingology> +1 as SRUs would get reviewed by the SRU team anyway received from bdmurray
[19:55] <rbasak> +1 I consider happyaron's endorsement to be the key decider, given he has been handsome_feng's primary sponsor.
[19:55] <meetingology> +1 I consider happyaron's endorsement to be the key decider, given he has been handsome_feng's primary sponsor. received from rbasak
[19:55] <rbasak> I believe micahg had to step away.
[19:56] <rbasak> That's everyone I think?
[19:56] <rbasak> #endvote
[19:56] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Grant handsome_feng PPU to ukui-menu, ukui-indicators, ukui-control-center, ukui-session-manager, ukui-screensaver, peony, ukui-desktop-environment
[19:56] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:1 Abstentions:0
[19:56] <meetingology> Motion carried
[19:56] <rbasak> handsome_feng: congratulations!
[19:56] <rbasak> And thank you for your continued contributions, of course.
[19:56] <happyaron> congrats handsome_feng
[19:56] <jbicha> handsome_feng: thank you and keep up the good work!
[19:57] <JackYu> thanks, every one!
[19:57] <handsome_feng> Thank you all \o/
[19:57] <ypwong> handsome_feng, congrats
[19:57] <rbasak> Any volunteers to follow the successful application checklist?
[19:57] <maclin> thanks, every one!
[19:58] <rbasak> #action rbasak to arrange handsome_feng's PPU changes
[19:58] <meetingology> ACTION: rbasak to arrange handsome_feng's PPU changes
[19:58] <rbasak> #action rbasak to announce handsome_feng successful application
[19:58] <meetingology> ACTION: rbasak to announce handsome_feng successful application
[19:58] <rbasak> #info handsome_feng's application was successful
[19:58] <rbasak> #topic Outstanding mailing list requests to assign
[19:59] <rbasak> "Please add new MATE applications to my MATE package set"
[19:59] <rbasak> flexiondotorg: is this still outstanding?
[20:00] <rbasak> Let's move on for now
[20:00] <rbasak> #info Carried forward
[20:01] <rbasak> #topic Any other business
[20:01] <rbasak> #subtopic Regenerate packagesets and create one for Ubuntu Budgie
[20:01] <rbasak> Regeneration would cover the MATE request I think?
[20:01] <jbicha> cyphermox: ^
[20:03] <cyphermox> blocked on TB creating the Budgie packageset; otherwise I'd need to move some more code around in the packageset generation
[20:03] <cyphermox> we might as well really do it right once.
[20:04] <rbasak> OK, thanks.
[20:04] <rbasak> Does that cover flexiondotorg's request also?
[20:04] <jbicha> cyphermox: I guess we might as well make a Kylin packageset too at the same time?
[20:04] <rbasak> It already is one; I checked.
[20:05] <jbicha> oh I see http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/bionic/ubuntukylin
[20:07] <cyphermox> rbasak: it will cover flexiondotorg's request too
[20:25] <sil2100> Are we done?
[20:25] <sil2100> I guess we need to do endmeeting :)
[20:26] <rbasak> Sorry!
[20:26] <rbasak> Let's end the meeting
[20:26] <rbasak> Assuming there are no objections to 18 December for the next meeting.
[20:26] <rbasak> If there are objections, please raise it on the list.
[20:26] <rbasak> #endmeeting
[20:26] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Dec  4 20:26:51 2017 UTC.
[20:26] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-12-04-19.05.moin.txt
[20:37] <sil2100> rbasak: thanks for chairing!
[20:37] <sil2100> o/


[12:34] <Traveler4> anyone knows an app like fspot for pdf documents (tagging) ??
[12:35] <Kirrus> Traveler4, this room is fairly quiet when theres no scheduled session
[12:35] <Kirrus> You'll find your questions answered quicker in #ubuntu
[13:43]  * mypapit out!!!
[20:03] <navinem> ok here it goes.... Suppose i want to permit a particular device like a USB or any other device to a particular user only, can anyone help me here.that too dynamically,i want to know it specifically??
[20:19] <Zelut> navinem: search for
[20:19] <Zelut> navinem: erg, "udev rules" on google. that'll be the best route.
[20:19] <navinem> ok
[22:38] <clown8> works for me
[23:23] <IRCcrackbaby> I guess this works too.... w00t or something


[22:10] <guiverc> permission to place https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2018-March/001238.html on fridge ?
[22:11] <guiverc> sorry; the link is Bionic Beaver 18.04 Beta 1 Released!


[04:53] <Unit193> skellat: You around?
[16:46] <alpacaherder> Unit193: I had to take my Mom to the doctor's office so I've been out of the house since before I saw your ping when I had a moment to pull up logs.  I'll be home in a couple hours.  My ZNC is unreachable from outside home's walls.
[16:47] <alpacaherder> Unit193: Read this in the meantime and I'll be under my normal nick once I get back home from THEFARM: https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Review
[18:32] <scottbomb> If thumbnail images are not displaying is this a bug against tumbler?
[18:37] <Unit193> skellat: Well, since you'll be home soon enough, I went ahead and generated it: http://unit193.tk/xubuntu/desktop-guide/offline-packages.html.  If you note the end of the third and the fourth paragraph seem to be a slight mixup.  Since you asked me for a review, my *personal* thought would be to compare apt-offline set --update apt-offline.sig  to  sudo apt-get update, and I'd personally also note that if you drop off --update, it'll ...
[18:37] <Unit193> ... basically run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade.  Do you think it's clear enough that the instructions are only updating the list of software?  When I've thought it had enough info, whoever I was helping didn't seem to get it.  (I tend to assume people apt-get update or otherwise keep that updated so I don't tell them to do it before installing something, that has been a slight issue before.)
[18:38] <scottbomb> Testing install of daily ISO. Thumbnails are not generating for image files in any application that uses them
[18:42] <Unit193> scottbomb: Check to see if it is running (ps aux | grep thumb), make sure it's enabled, and that you aren't on a remote filesystem or the files aren't too large.
[18:43] <Unit193> skellat: I haven't ever needed to do offline packages (well, not precisely anyway), so what info may and may not be needed I think you would know more.  I noticed you either didn't have how to do a system update, or I missed it.  Was this intended?
[19:04] <scottbomb> No, I don't see it running
[19:05] <Unit193> scottbomb: Whoops, was thinking of the wrong application, it'd be close to  ps aux | grep tumb
[19:07] <scottbomb> ok I think that one is running. output is 1000 6453 0.0 0.0 4680 812 pts/2 S+ 14:06 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/tumbler-1/tumblerd


[00:00] <bazhang> copy it over then install
[00:00] <bazhang> make sure you get the right version, ie matching your current system installed on that xubuntu machine
[00:01] <kurokashiro> `r8168-dkms_8.042.00-2_all`
[00:02] <bazhang> what version of xubuntu are you on
[00:04] <kurokashiro> Latest LTS release: 16.04, Xenial Xerus
[00:05] <bazhang> so the above package you listed matches that?
[00:11] <kurokashiro> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/r8168/8.041.00-1
[00:11] <kurokashiro> i think this one might
[00:11] <knome> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=xenial&searchon=names&keywords=r8168 - indeed
[00:13] <kurokashiro> r8168-dkms_8.041.00-1_all.deb
[00:13] <kurokashiro> this is the file i downloaded to the usb
[00:15] <kurokashiro> i plugged the usb into the xubuntu pc
[00:16] <bazhang> r8168-dkms_8.041.00-1_all.deb
[00:16] <bazhang> yeah thats it
[00:16] <bazhang> copy the deb over, then right click with mouse
[00:17] <kurokashiro> open with software install?
[00:17] <bazhang> is that what it offers
[00:18] <bazhang> if so, then yes
[00:18] <kurokashiro> `open with software install` `open with "archive manager"` `extract here/to` `open with other application`
[00:18] <bazhang> the first
[00:20] <bazhang> installed? then plug in the ehternet cable, if not yet done
[00:20] <kurokashiro> it opens up a window with an install button
[00:20] <bazhang> install it
[00:20] <kurokashiro> i clicked the install but it doesnt seem to do anything
[00:21] <kurokashiro> there is a blue box that says "this software may contain non-free components."
[00:21] <kurokashiro> after i click install
[00:22] <kurokashiro> and nothing seems to happen
[00:23] <bazhang> got an ethernet cable handy?
[00:24] <kurokashiro> yes i have an ethernet cable
[00:24] <bazhang> is it plugged into the xubuntu machine yet
[00:26] <kurokashiro> not yet im moving the machine closer to the modem
[00:27] <bazhang> ok, let us know when you have done so
[00:29] <kurokashiro> im powering up the machine
[00:32] <kurokashiro> the machine is turned on
[00:32] <kurokashiro> when i open with software install
[00:33] <bazhang> you did that already
[00:33] <kurokashiro> there is a blue box saying "this software comes from a 3rd party and may contain non free components." then when i click install it changes to "this softwar emah contain non free components" and seemingly does nothing
[00:33] <kurokashiro> the install button is still there
[00:33] <knome> what if you press install again after the blue box?
[00:34] <kurokashiro> yes
[00:34] <kurokashiro> and it doesnt seem to do anything
[00:34] <knome> okay
[00:34] <kurokashiro> the first click of install changes the text on the blue box
[00:35] <kurokashiro> the second click of install doesnt seem to do anything
[00:35] <knome> so in that case, try opening a terminal in the directory where you have the file and running
[00:35] <knome> dpkg -i filename.deb
[00:35] <knome> (you can use tabcompletion, eg. type the first few letters of the filename and then press tab)
[00:36] <kurokashiro> "requested operation requires superuser priv"
[00:36] <kurokashiro> so put sudo at the start?
[00:36] <knome> yeah
[00:39] <kurokashiro> "dependency problems prevent configuration of r8168-dkms: r8168-dkms depends on dkms (>=<IP_ADDRESS>); however: package dkms is not installed."
[00:39] <knome> ...this is the reason why you'd want to use apt-offline
[00:41] <bazhang> sneakernet the appropriate dkms first , then that package
[00:42] <knome> (note that dkms might have some dependencies that are not installed yet, so you might have to repeat the proces a few times)
[00:42] <bazhang> I'm surprised dkms is not included by default
[00:42] <knome> yeah, that's kind of weird, but....
[00:46] <kurokashiro> dkms_<IP_ADDRESS>.orig.tar.gz
[00:47] <kurokashiro> from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/dkms
[00:47] <knome> please get the .deb
[00:49] <kurokashiro> dkms_<IP_ADDRESS>-1.1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_all.deb
[00:49] <kurokashiro> this one?
[00:50] <knome> no, that's for 14.04
[00:50] <knome> http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/dkms/download
[00:50] <knome> get it from one of the links there
[00:51] <kurokashiro> i moved it to the desktop of the xubuntu machine
[00:52] <knome> now run "sudo dpkg -i file.deb" with that
[00:52] <bazhang> I hope he runs it from Desktop
[00:52] <knome> well yes, again in the directory of the file...
[00:53] <Unit193> You can actually now  `sudo apt install ./file.deb` and it'll resolve deps too.
[00:53] <knome> Unit193, considering they are all satisfied...
[00:53] <bazhang> no internet of any kind
[00:54] <kurokashiro> i did that
[00:54] <kurokashiro> now im running the other command
[00:55] <knome> or more exactly satisfiable
[00:55] <knome> kurokashiro, once you've ran the dkpg command for both of the packages, the driver is installed
[00:55] <kurokashiro> it said dkms install completed
[00:56] <knome> ok, now for the r8168 one
[00:56] <kurokashiro> i did that one too
[00:57] <kurokashiro> do i restart the computer now?
[00:57] <knome> yep
[00:57] <bazhang> got the cable attached?
[00:57] <kurokashiro> yes
[00:57] <knome> ideally, after reboot you should have connectivity
[00:57] <bazhang> should work as is
[00:57] <bazhang> but reboot to make sure
[00:57]  * knome isn't sure how dkms works, so...
[00:57] <knome> and yes, sometimes things doesn't work even if they should
[00:59] <kurokashiro> ethernet still isnt working
[00:59] <knome> after reboot?
[00:59] <kurokashiro> yes
[01:05] <kurokashiro> i dont know why this isnt working
[01:05] <knome> Unit193, ideas?
[01:19] <bazhang> kurokashiro, did you check what ifconfig -a says now, no need to paste here
[01:19] <kurokashiro> i did `$ inxi -Fx` and for Network it says `Network: card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller` `driver: r8168 v: 8.041.00-NAPI port: b000 bus-ID: 0a:00.0` `IF: enp10s0 state: down mac: 30:8..etc`
[01:20] <bazhang> please pastebin such a huge output in future
[01:21] <bazhang> sudo ifup enp10s0
[01:22] <bazhang> then sudo dhclient enp10s0
[01:25] <kurokashiro> `unknown interface enp10s0`
[01:25] <Unit193> knome: Not sure if you already checked logs or if the driver was in use.
[01:26] <knome> no.
[01:26] <bazhang> what does ifconfig -a show  kurokashiro eth0 or just that other, please just say which, dont repaste all that
[01:27] <kurokashiro> it shows `enp10s0` and `lo`
[01:27] <knome> Unit193, doesn't the inxi output above confirm it is?
[01:28] <Unit193> The latter it does.
[01:28] <knome> yup
[01:29] <bazhang> sudo ifconfig enp10s0 hw ether 00:04:FE:11:22:38
[01:30] <bazhang> the last bit we have to substitute
[01:31] <kurokashiro> substitute with what?
[01:32] <kurokashiro> `00:04:FE:11:22:38` with my `HWaddr`?
[01:32] <bazhang> do ip link
[01:32] <bazhang> the MAC address is what we want
[01:33] <kurokashiro> link/ether 30:85:a9:93:89:7d
[01:34] <bazhang> bingo
[01:34] <bazhang> substitute that
[01:34] <kurokashiro> i did the command
[01:35] <bazhang> sudo ifconfig enp10s0 hw ether 30:85:a9:93:89:7d
[01:35] <bazhang> that?
[01:35] <kurokashiro> yes
[01:37] <bazhang> is the cable attached
[01:38] <kurokashiro> yes it is
[01:38] <bazhang> try to use the internet
[01:38] <kurokashiro> it still doesnt work
[01:38] <kurokashiro> http://pastebin.com/pJBF1wqu
[01:39] <kurokashiro> this is what ifconfig -a prints
[01:39] <kurokashiro> now
[01:41] <bazhang> sudo dhclient enp10s0
[01:41] <bazhang> does that get you a lease
[01:44] <kurokashiro> i did the command and it is still doing something
[01:46] <bazhang> doing what
[01:46] <kurokashiro> it just finished
[01:46] <kurokashiro> it wasnt doing anything
[01:47] <kurokashiro> it was just "stuck"
[01:47] <bazhang> ping www.google.com
[01:47] <kurokashiro> unknown host`
[02:01] <bazhang> kurokashiro> i did the command and it is still doing something
[02:01] <bazhang> what was the something
[02:02] <kurokashiro> by something i meant it asked it for my password and then made an empty line and just stayed like that until it finished
[02:02] <bazhang> what was the command you did
[02:03] <kurokashiro> sudo dhclient enp10s0
[02:21] <kurokashiro> i tried `/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-npm10s0` and it gives me an error
[02:22] <kurokashiro> enp*
[03:18] <kurokashiro> i got a you are now connected to enp10s0 but still cant connection to the internet through etherner
[03:18] <kurokashiro> ethernet
[03:43] <kurokashiro> im just going to reinstall windows and see if everything works fine on windows
[03:43] <kurokashiro> to at least know if its something wrong with hardware or something
[10:19] <jorkoden> hello
[10:23] <xubuntu96d> hi
[10:23] <xubuntu96d> thats all
[10:23] <xubuntu96d> bye
[10:24] <jorkoden> I just installed Xubuntu 16.04. I'm looking for a nice GUI IRC client. I installed the one recommended in the Software app: Polari
[10:25] <jorkoden> But it's a bit underwhelming
[10:25] <jorkoden> Any recommendations? Quassel?
[13:42] <Tedd872> Anyone here?
[13:47] <Tedd872> My Ricochet is not working. Always says Connection Pending with my contact.
[13:47] <Tedd872> Is this because they need to be online at the same time?
[13:56] <cfhowlett> ricoshet?
[16:03] <woodefec> hi. What is the default xubuntu live user name and password. I cannot get back to session from suspend
[16:12] <krytarik> woodefec: xubuntu / EMPTY
[16:35] <woodefec> thanks krytarik
[16:35] <woodefec> I tried that and it accepted this "combination" after like the 5th try, but it finally did
[18:11] <xubuntu53w> Hello. I am having issues with my machine booting. Running xubuntu 16.04.1. Grub just isnt showing up. Been at this for a few hours and am completely stumped. Does anyone have any ideas? Here is a report from boot-repair. http://paste2.org/UjkOP6Y0
[18:12] <xubuntu53w> sdb was cloned to sda via dd and then the partition was grown. It was working fine for a month after that.
[18:31] <kurokashiro> quick question if i want to download "PlayonLinux" on a xubuntu machine would i download using the ubuntu instructions? or download the "all distributions package"
[18:33] <kurokashiro> bazhang i got the ethernet working btw
[19:28] <sun45261> hi guys
[19:28] <sun45261> does anyone know how to invert the standard fn-key-function?
[19:28] <sun45261> atm if I want to use the f1,...,f12 keys i have to hold down the fn-key
[19:30] <Spass_> sun45261: Hello. Did you check your BIOS settings?
[19:31] <sun45261> Spass_: hi, no not yet
[19:32] <Spass_> I think that this option should be there.
[19:33] <sun45261> Spass_: unfortunately i am using a macbook pro
[19:33] <sun45261> _Spass: seems like there is no way of getting into the bios
[19:33] <Spass_> Oh, sorry I don't have any experience with Macs.
[19:34] <sun45261> nvm
[19:35] <sun45261> may have found something
[19:35] <sun45261> i'll give it a try
[19:35] <sun45261> ty anyways
[20:58] <xubuntu21w> Hi. I updated software today and now I keep getting Query Bench page appearing. What is it, and how do I get rid of it please?
[22:49] <xubuntu67w> I have something called query bench that has appeared following a standard update. What is it and should I remove it please?
[22:50] <knome> appeared where?
[22:51] <xubuntu67w> on my screen as soon as I connect online
[22:51] <xubuntu67w> If I close the window, it re-opens
[22:51] <knome> google tells me there is a firefox addon by that name
[22:51] <knome> maybe you'll want to disable that addon from firefox?
[22:52] <xubuntu67w> ok thanks.
[22:54] <xubuntu67w> Yes, that's done. Many thanks.
[23:27] <xubuntu86w> why is there a bug in thunar that causes it to crash when a file is renamed?
[23:27] <xubuntu86w> the bug is at least 2 years old


[00:14] <clashingwave> Hello Everyone I'm having a small problem, I'm using Kubunut 11.04 and I installed samba from dolphin, and set the folder so that everyone has full control, but when I try to past a file into it from my other computer it says access denied . Can anyone help me with this please?
[00:19] <SIR_Taco_> clashingwave: ?
[00:20] <clashingwave> SIR_Taco_ Yes still here
[00:20] <SIR_Taco_> ok, and is your user part of the sambashare group?
[00:21] <clashingwave> Yes sir it is
[00:21] <SIR_Taco_> is the directory mounted? ie, you can get a listing?
[00:22] <clashingwave> Yes I can get a listing
[00:22] <SIR_Taco_> and with the same user you can't move/change files in the mount?
[00:23] <clashingwave> No sir, I tried that a few times already
[00:26] <clashingwave> I can see the folder over the network, but I don't seem to have write access
[00:28] <SIR_Taco_> clashingwave: this is a little older, but still relevant... have you tried it? http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-do-i-set-permissions-to-samba-shares.html
[00:30] <clashingwave> Thanks I'll take a look
[00:43] <AlexZion> hi all...., there is some good GUI to manage iptables in Kubuntu ?
[01:22] <RKyle> What is good text editor that can be used from the terminal, I tried using 'kate file" but it didn't work.
[01:23] <KimLaroux> RKyle, I like vim
[01:24] <KimLaroux> but you might want to read a short tutorial before you begin, as the controls are weird at first
[01:24] <KimLaroux> but once you know them, it's quite easy to use
[01:26] <ArchangelSe7en> nano is simpler I think
[01:27] <KimLaroux> never tried
[01:27] <RKyle> I want an outside text editor or how do you select all via nano.
[01:31] <RKyle> Like regular Ubuntu has gedit.
[01:31] <KimLaroux> I just tried using kate from the terminal and it seems to work
[01:32] <ArchangelSe7en> gedit has a GUI
[01:32] <ArchangelSe7en> donnow what you're looking for exactly
[01:33] <KimLaroux> RKyle, what do you need to select all for?
[01:35] <RKyle> Kate doesn't work for me.
[01:35] <RKyle> And I need to modify something as root and I need to delete the entire source.
[01:38] <RKyle> Can you select all text via vim?
[01:40] <ArchangelSe7en> kate doesnt "work"
[01:40] <ArchangelSe7en> what ya mean ?
[01:45] <RKyle> No protocol specified
[01:46] <KimLaroux> what do you mean by selecting text?
[01:46] <RKyle> I have Kate and I installed gedit and that doesn't work eather.
[01:46] <KimLaroux> you can select text un a terminal, if all you want is copy it
[01:46] <RKyle> Highlighting text to mass delete.
[01:48] <KimLaroux> I'd be surprised if you could do that within a terminal
[01:49] <KimLaroux> maybe you should take a deeper look at why kate doesn't work, or just look for another simple text editor
[01:53] <RKyle> I'm new to Kubuntu so I didn't know if Kate would work in the first place.
[01:53] <RKyle> But yeah I'll look into it.
[01:57] <ArchangelSe7en> off I go
[02:14] <ssfdre38> hey do you know why microsoft livecam vx100 doesnt want to work on Skype but on cheese it does
[02:27] <valorie> Kate is awesome!
[03:01] <Blackpaw> Test
[03:38] <parrot> Hola alquien de Colombia?
[03:44] <valorie> !es | parrot
[05:25] <Shirakawasuna> I'm getting this error trying to run legends: "could not find a compatible opengl display resolution". I'm using the nvidia binary. Any ideas?
[05:26] <Shirakawasuna> it makes me wonder if I need some extra libraries or something
[05:28] <valorie> Shirakawasuna: run jockey-kde
[05:28] <valorie> !jockey
[05:28] <valorie> hmmm
[05:28] <Shirakawasuna> yes sir
[05:29] <Shirakawasuna> huh, weird
[05:29] <Shirakawasuna> "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[05:29] <Shirakawasuna> yet lsmod | grep nvidia shows the blob
[05:30] <Shirakawasuna> claims to be activated but not in use?
[05:33] <Shirakawasuna> maybe this 'jockey' app is broken?
[05:38] <valorie> that's strange
[05:38] <valorie> I've not heard about any problems
[05:38] <valorie> you should be able to reach the same choices in systemsettings
[05:40] <valorie> !drivers
[05:40] <valorie> ubottu seems to be brainless tonight
[05:40] <valorie> agreed
[05:41] <Unit193> ubottu: drivers
[05:41] <Unit193> !binarydriver
[05:44] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[05:44] <valorie> he didn't know !jockey either
[05:45] <valorie> perhaps db fail
[05:45] <Unit193> Na, just not factoids in the db
[05:45] <valorie> hmmm
[05:49] <Arv3n> hello.
[05:49] <kyubutsu> !gender
[05:49] <Arv3n> Is it worth it upgrading to 4.7? Is it better to just stay with the default in 11.04?
[05:50] <valorie> I like 4.7 a lot
[05:50] <Arv3n> Is it faster?
[05:50] <Arv3n> The only thing I see that I may like is the revised Dolphin interface.
[05:51] <valorie> not that I notice
[05:51] <Arv3n> I'm also worried about getting security updates with the backport ppa.
[05:51] <valorie> my headphone jack works again
[05:51] <Arv3n> and any other issues. i want very little hassle.
[05:51] <valorie> the kub. devels do excellent packaging
[05:51] <Arv3n> Now, that said, I am a pretty experienced user so a little messing around is ok but I don't want to spend hours fixing stuff.
[05:52] <valorie> I've spent zero minutes fixing stuff
[05:52] <Arv3n> OK.
[05:52] <Arv3n> So, do I still get security updates?
[05:52] <valorie> although my netbook (32 bit Atom) has a plasma problem
[05:52] <valorie> but maybe the latest updates fix that too
[05:52] <valorie> yes
[05:52] <Arv3n> ok
[05:52] <Arv3n> so you think i should just do it?
[05:53] <valorie> you aren't deleting repositories, you are merely adding one
[05:53] <Arv3n> I mean if it's mostly trouble-free, and I still get security updates. I don't see why not
[05:53] <Arv3n> I mean, are there any downsides?
[05:53] <valorie> I've heard of very few problems
[05:53] <valorie> and those mostly seemed to be self-inflicted
[05:54] <valorie> that said, it is a lot of updates, so I'd be sure to be on a good network connection
[05:54] <Arv3n> i am.
[05:54] <Arv3n> i pay too much for my damn internet connection.
[05:54] <valorie> that's the usual problem
[05:54] <valorie> disconnect during the process
[05:55] <Arv3n> guess ill go ahead and do it then. thanks
[06:02] <Shirakawasuna> more info? I tried reinstalling nvidia-common and nvidia-current and got this: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/lib/nvidia-current/ld.so.conf because link group gl_conf is broken
[06:02] <valorie> !nvidia
[06:02] <valorie> def. sounds like something is broken......
[06:04] <Shirakawasuna> interesting
[06:05] <Shirakawasuna> that file, /usr/lib/nvidia-current/ld.so.conf has a modified date of 2011-04-20
[06:05] <Shirakawasuna> which is well before I installed, so it's from the insallation disc
[06:05] <Shirakawasuna> I'm going to remove nvidia and reboot... then reinstall it
[06:05] <Shirakawasuna> brb
[06:12] <Shirakawasuna> no luck. It did properly reinstall this time, with no error message, and actually prompted the recreation of the initrd
[06:13] <Shirakawasuna> but still says the proprietary driver isn't active, despite nvidia being loaded and opengl stuff (mostly) working
[06:14] <valorie> well, I think you need developer help, and if none have spoken up here, I guess the thing to do is post to either the forum or the list
[06:15] <valorie> depending on what you prefer
[06:15] <e_t_> Shirakawasuna: did you use nvidia-xconfig ?
[06:15] <Shirakawasuna> e_t_: no
[06:15] <Shirakawasuna> though I do have a xorg.conf (minimal) to enable changing screen brightness
[06:15] <e_t_> Shirakawasuna: You need to do that. It will create an Xorg.conf file which instructs the computer to actually use the proprietary driver.
[06:16] <Shirakawasuna> strange. nvidia seems to be very much in use, but I'll give it a shot
[06:17] <e_t_> The semi-catch is that X cannot be running when you run nvidia-xconfig. In the past, I've rebooted, selected recovery mode from GRUB, and run nvidia-xconfig from the root prompt.
[06:18] <Shirakawasuna> no worries, I know very well how to kill X ;)
[06:18] <Shirakawasuna> though I just ran nvidia-xconfig and it did generate a crappy-looking xorg.conf
[06:18] <Shirakawasuna> brb to see if it fails less when X isn't running
[06:19] <e_t_> Maybe they've changed it. It's been a while since I've had an nvidia card. Back then, it would just exit if X was running.
[06:23] <Shirakawasuna> nope, still claims that the proprietary driver isn't in use (but really it is...)
[06:29] <e_t_> Did you reboot or just start X again?
[06:32] <Shirakawasuna> just started X again
[06:32] <Shirakawasuna> my new guess is to let the silly 'additional drives' dialog do its 'remove' option, then I'll install, then restart
[06:34] <Shirakawasuna> rebooting
[06:36] <Shirakawasuna> lol, nope
[06:36] <Shirakawasuna> still claims they're not in use
[06:38] <e_t_> Do you have 3D effects and/or transparency?
[06:38] <Shirakawasuna> yup
[06:38] <Shirakawasuna> everything seems fine, I was just trying to figure out why some games were failing
[06:39] <e_t_> Then don't worry what Jockey says. Jockey isn't all that smart.
[06:39] <Shirakawasuna> I suspect it's the games themselves and some incompatibility with nvidia
[06:39] <Shirakawasuna> (legends and antyetitmoves... for andyetitmoves, it's a known issue)
[06:39] <e_t_> Do you get any sort of error message from the games?
[06:39] <Shirakawasuna> yup
[06:40] <e_t_> Are these Win games in Wine?
[06:40] <Shirakawasuna> "Could not find a compatible OpenGL display resolution. Please check your driver configuration. (Error: Couldn't find matching GLX visual)
[06:40] <Shirakawasuna> no, these are native linux games
[06:42] <e_t_> Do these games have configuration files? If the error is talking about resolution, you may try manually specifying the correct resolution.
[06:44] <Shirakawasuna> trying to find one that's parseable
[06:44] <Shirakawasuna> there doesn't seem to even be a man page ;
[06:44] <Shirakawasuna> ;)
[06:44] <Shirakawasuna> nor a 'windowed mode' command
[06:45] <e_t_> is there a --help ?
[06:47] <Shirakawasuna> nope
[06:47] <Shirakawasuna> I think this game doesn't want me to play it :)
[06:48] <well_laid_lawn> it might need the sgl libraries like (I think it was) cube
[06:50] <Shirakawasuna> I'm not finding much on sgl
[06:51] <e_t_> Do you mean SDL ?
[06:51] <Shirakawasuna> I think it does involve sdl at some point
[06:52] <Shirakawasuna> I have the packages it supposedly required, though: sdl, sdl-mixer, and sdl-image
[06:55] <e_t_> Are you building from source?
[06:55] <Shirakawasuna> no, I'm using 'playdeb'
[06:56] <Shirakawasuna> I'll see if their 'scripted installer' works, rather than the deb
[07:07] <p896gbm> hey guys, very simple question: how do i change my mouse sensitivity?
[07:07] <p896gbm> the input device panel in system settings only lets me change acceleration, not sensitivity
[07:15] <Guest43314> humans?
[07:15] <jussi> no, we are bots.
[07:15] <jussi> :P
[07:15] <Guest43314> Deutschland?
[07:15] <jussi> !de
[07:21] <Shirakawasuna> I think installed gsynaptics, p896gbm, got it set how I wanted, then uninstalled gsynaptics
[07:23] <p896gbm> Shirakawasuna: is gsynaptics supposed to provide something other than gpointing-device-settings?
[07:23] <p896gbm> that utility doesn't allow configuring sensitivity for me
[07:24] <p896gbm> it just offers options for middle button emulation and wheel emulation
[07:24] <Guest43314> Can KDE support three screens?
[07:24] <keithzg> It's not a matter of sensitivity, actually, that's part of the problem in looking for such a solution
[07:24] <p896gbm> what do you mean keithzg?
[07:25] <keithzg> Well p896gbm, I mean that it's a matter of resolution; not a terribly important distinction in normal life, but important for finding the right things to modify/override :)
[07:25] <p896gbm> ok
[07:25] <keithzg> See for example http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/17446/mouse-speed-sensivity.html
[07:25] <e_t_> Guest43314: Can your video card support three screens?
[07:25] <p896gbm> how do i change my mouse resolution?
[07:26] <Guest43314> It has HDMI input and VGA
[07:27] <Shirakawasuna> well, there's a bunch of crap that can be tweaked with synclient, p896gbm. gsynaptics should give you many of those options...
[07:28] <e_t_> Guest43314: That's two. Where would you plug in this third screen?
[07:28] <Guest43314> Good point.
[07:28] <keithzg> the link I posted has one example, http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=90208 has another approach (tailored to slowing down though, not sure if that's what you're looking for p896gbm)
[07:29] <Guest43314> Anyone have any good wisdom or stories to share?
[07:29] <p896gbm> Shirakawasuna: gsynaptics doesn't seem to be a program. i installed the gsynaptics package but there's no gsynaptics binary to run
[07:29] <p896gbm> there's also no man page for it
[07:29] <keithzg> Isn't synaptics exclusively for touchpads?
[07:29] <p896gbm> according to apt-cache, it's just a link to gpointing-device-settings
[07:30] <p896gbm> and that program doesn't allow configuring sensitivity/resolution
[07:30] <p896gbm> yeah it's probably for touchpads, since it talks about wheel and middle button emulation
[07:30] <keithzg> do neither of my links work for ya?
[07:30] <Shirakawasuna> ah
[07:30] <Shirakawasuna> it's a transitional package
[07:30] <Shirakawasuna> I wonder what I used...
[07:31] <Shirakawasuna> maybe it was just gpointing-device-settings
[07:31] <keithzg> I know they're not the easy way around, heh, but both KDE forums links are to discussions with solutions for changing the speed of mice other than through acceleration.
[07:31] <Guest43314> How do I modify the source code of the KDE?
[07:32] <Guest43314> I want to redesign and simplify some aspects of the calendar program.
[07:32] <e_t_> Guest43314: http://community.kde.org/Getinvolved/development
[07:33] <p896gbm> keithzg: the first link doesn't work, setx only allows configuring acceleration and threshold
[07:33] <p896gbm> the rest of the workarounds in both links involve editing xorg.conf
[07:33] <Guest43314> e_t_ what knowledge would I need?
[07:33] <Guest43314> I know nothing of coding
[07:33] <p896gbm> not sure how i can tweak it to where i like if i have to restart x each time...
[07:33] <Guest43314> print "hello world"
[07:33] <Guest43314> ?
[07:34] <keithzg> p896gbm just start a second X session, restart THAT one when you're tweaking. Is it speeding up or slowing down that you're trying to do? Because setting a 0 threshold and high acceleration would do it.
[07:34] <keithzg> For speeding up, that is.
[07:35] <Shirakawasuna> p896gbm: if you want some direct and specific tweaking, try out synclient
[07:35] <Shirakawasuna> p896gbm: keep in mind that I'm pretty sure your settings there will be temporary - you'll need to write them to a xorg.conf, a script, or find another tool to set them once you find what parameter you want to change
[07:36] <Shirakawasuna> just typing 'synclient' will give you a lot of options
[07:36] <keithzg> Wait, I'm confused, is it a mouse or a touchpad we're talking about?
[07:36] <e_t_> Guest43314: C and C++ for a start.  KDE is a HUGE code base. If you want to get started, try joining #kde-devel
[07:36] <Shirakawasuna> I thought it was a touchpad
[07:36] <Shirakawasuna> is it just a mouse?
[07:37] <keithzg> heh I thought it was a mouse, I guess that's an important question to answer now haha
[07:37] <Shirakawasuna> hmm, yeah it's probably a mouse
[07:37] <Guest43314> How do you write secure code?  How do we know the system is not compromised upon the altar of "naahtsekh?"
[07:37] <Shirakawasuna> I have no idea how to configure those, I just change acceleration and min/max speed and I'm happy
[07:38] <Guest43314> Does SE linux have back doors?
[07:38] <keithzg> Is obvious troll obvious?
[07:38] <p896gbm> keithzg Shirakawasuna: it's just a mouse, logitech g5
[07:39] <e_t_> Guest43314: SE Linux was written by the NSA for their own use. I'm guessing it does not have security holes, or they're patched quickly.
[07:39] <Guest43314> I want to know how to apply this technology to solving real world problems, like food and energy security
[07:39] <Guest43314> I want to make gardening robots
[07:39] <keithzg> Wait . . . the G5? Doesn't that have the onboard buttons for changing resolution? haha
[07:40] <keithzg> I know the MX518 does, that's what I have and it was the direct predecessor.
[07:40] <keithzg> Maybe that's why it's never even occurred to me.
[07:41] <Shirakawasuna> I guess I don't know what the question is, if it can't be solved with acceleration + min/max speed
[07:41] <keithzg> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logitech_G5#Features_2 "Tracking Resolution: 400-2000 dpi (user selectable with up to 5 presets actively available using the + and - buttons on the top of the mouse)"
[07:41] <Shirakawasuna> are you experiencing jumpiness?
[07:42] <e_t_> Guest43314: Moving from "I know nothing of coding" to "I want to make gardening robots" is a long journey. I suggest an introduction to programming course at your local community/junior college. P.S. This may be a conversation better moved to #kubuntu-offtopic since it is not about support.
[07:42] <Guest43314> Thank you for your time.
[07:42] <keithzg> p896gbm you don't even have to bother with changing the speed, ie. resolution, at the level of KDE, much less xorg.conf or whatnot, your mouse has buttons for it :)
[07:43]  * keithzg feels an unjustified sense of accomplishment
[07:45] <Shirakawasuna> keithzg: you are a god among men
[07:49] <p896gbm> keithzg: the buttons only allow 3 levels, far too coarse
[07:49] <p896gbm> i want it somewhere between the max and middle
[07:49] <p896gbm> the high sensitivity is double the default
[07:54] <keithzg> Well then, that's a good start, at least with the older firmware the G5 was 2000, 800 and 400. You at least know the general resolution to aim for then.
[07:58] <keithzg> Have you tried lomoco? (commandline program for controlling Logitech mice)
[10:45] <venkata> hi everybody...
[10:45] <venkata> i have a problem regarding wine...
[10:46] <venkata> when i click a exe to install.. wine is running and install screen for the prog is popping up but a alert box coming and saying ...
[10:48] <venkata> can't access a temp file in "c:\users\username\Temp\file" cant be opened .. plz check that your disk is not full and that you have access to the destination directory
[10:48] <venkata> i can see the specified file is there in Temp folder of wine c: drive
[10:48] <venkata> any ideas plz
[10:54] <well_laid_lawn> check #winehq
[10:54] <well_laid_lawn> !wine
[10:57] <venkata> thanks
[12:16] <elitrou> hi guys. i have a question regarding mobile braodband modem settings. Can anyone help?
[12:17] <James147> !ask | elitrou
[12:18] <elitrou> my usb boradband modem only works when mapped on ttyusb0, not other ports like ttyusb2. can i force it to be mapped on the right port always?
[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hey  all
[13:08] <EvilRoey> hi
[13:09] <EvilRoey> how do I find out which bugs a PPA package addresses?  I'm wondering what's new in the recent KDE 4.7 PPA builds..
[13:10] <alvin> Just look at what's new in KDE 4.7: http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.7/
[13:10] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey, check the ppa package reference in launchpad
[13:13] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  I guess there is always "zless /usr/share/doc/kde-window-manager/changelog.Debian.gz"
[13:13] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  ok.. was just trying to find it, that's all.
[13:13] <EvilRoey> alvin:  thanks
[13:15] <ironfroggy> can anyone tell me what would cause my connected headset to become very low? i used to hear fine, but now at 100% i can hardly hear anything.
[13:15] <EvilRoey> hello ironfroggy
[13:15] <EvilRoey> ironfroggy:  you're on another common channel yet again, cool
[13:15] <ironfroggy> it was fine, and then i went to adjust the volume and as soon as i touched the control it cut in half, and now i cant get it back to a normal volume.
[13:16] <ironfroggy> EvilRoey: i am the ever-presence of freenode, yes.
[13:16] <EvilRoey> :-)
[13:17] <EvilRoey> ah yes from #ironpython and others
[13:17] <EvilRoey> er, #python
[13:17] <ironfroggy> any idea bout my volume trouble?
[13:19] <BluesKaj> volume ctrls can get coated with carbon and need to be reefed back and forth to clean them sometimes .
[13:19] <ironfroggy> what
[13:19] <BluesKaj> vol ctrl contacts get coated
[13:20] <ironfroggy> no, this is a software issue.
[13:20] <ironfroggy> because i am not using hardware volume controls.
[13:20] <ironfroggy> hence asking here.
[13:20] <BluesKaj> are you sure
[13:21] <BluesKaj> ironfroggy, ok . check alsamixer
[13:21] <ironfroggy> its at 100%
[13:22] <ironfroggy> using pulse and all the related levels are at 100% so i can hear at all.
[13:22] <programming> Fresh kubuntu install, all packages up to date
[13:22] <programming> running gimp = segmentation fault
[13:22] <ironfroggy> programming: sadly a known problem!
[13:23] <programming> :/
[13:23] <ironfroggy> go to settings and change gtk appearance from oxygen to raleigh (or the other way around)
[13:23] <ironfroggy> then it should work
[13:24] <programming> ironfroggy: awesome, thanks a million
[13:24] <robbiesan> Hello, everyone, good afternoon, morning or evening
[13:25] <BluesKaj> make sure alsamixer is at 100% as well, pulseaudio just rides on top , so it depends on the alsmixer ctrls . ironfroggy
[13:25] <ironfroggy> i have checked.
[13:26] <robbiesan> I'm using KDE 4 on a 64 acer, it is working fine, but locale won't change to dutch,
[13:26] <BluesKaj> well, i dropped pulseaudio and a lot of my audio problems disappeared
[13:27] <ironfroggy> BluesKaj: multiple sound devices. need pulseaudio to switch them properly. thanks anyway.
[13:27] <BluesKaj> ironfroggy, yeah, skype , mumble etc need the pa packages ...shameful
[13:28] <programming> what is the problem with your sound ironfroggy
[13:28] <ironfroggy> programming: one sound device is very quiet
[13:28] <programming> alsamixer -c<card #> ?
[13:29] <ironfroggy> all levels are at 100%
[13:41] <EvilRoey> all levels are at 100%, keptin
[13:41] <EvilRoey> but I canna' keep it up much longer
[13:44] <iEatChildren> i upgraded to 11.04 and now my panel is not as wide as my screen. i tried maximize width and it got even smaller.  Where's the sense of values in the policy here . Makes no sense to me !
[14:43] <kasia> test
[14:48] <genii-around> kasia: Yes, we see what you type here :)
[16:13] <trions> Kubuntu 11.04. When I connect HDMI out to the TV. The sound output still comes from my tablet. How can I make the sound output appear on TV. In windows it automatically outputs  the sound to TV as soon as I connect the cable.
[16:14] <Terbaddo> Install pavucontrol
[16:14] <Terbaddo> @ trions
[16:15] <Terbaddo> Or, with KMix, Settings > Select Master Channel > ... HDMI ...
[16:17] <trions> Terbaddo: For some reason neither pvucontrol  nor Kmix list the HDMI output device.
[16:18] <hazamonzo> hey folks. dbus-daemon keeps eating 25% cpu (one core) what could be happening here? kubuntu 11.04 x64
[16:18] <trions> Even alsamixer shows on only one device, that is HDA Intel
[17:10] <neo69> hi
[17:11] <neo69> when I start my kubuntu I get a back desktop, to start a app I have to hit alt-F2. How can I fix this?
[17:12] <neo69> black*
[17:13] <jmichaelx> if you have a black desktop, how can you use alt+f2?
[17:15] <neo69> jmichaelx: if I hit alt-f2 it shows the window to insert a command
[17:16] <jmichaelx> neo69: but everything else is black?
[17:16] <neo69> jmichaelx: yes
[17:17] <neo69> jmichaelx: I can start apps using a terminal
[17:17] <neo69> but have no desktop image, bars ...
[17:18] <jmichaelx> neo69: that is very strange
[17:18] <jmichaelx> neo69: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed?
[17:18] <neo69> let me check
[17:20] <neo69> jmichaelx: yes
[17:20] <jmichaelx> neo69: what kind of graphics card are you using?
[17:23] <neo69> jmichaelx: how can I know that?
[17:23] <neo69> its a laptop
[17:23] <neo69> aspire 5720
[17:24] <neo69> isn't there some way to make kde start with the defaults?
[17:25] <James147> neo69: alt+f2 and launch plasma-desktop
[17:25] <James147> ^^ if nothing happens open konsole and try running it there
[17:25] <jmichaelx> James147: ty.... i guess it only makes sense that X is running, if he's able to start apps
[17:26]  * jmichaelx feels embarrassed
[17:28] <neo69> on terminal I got some lines
[17:28] <neo69> and some errors
[17:28] <neo69> "Object::disconnect: No such slot QObject::dataUpdated(QString,Plasma::DataEngine::Data)
[17:28] <James147> !pastebin
[17:30] <neo69> http://paste.ubuntu.com/673259/
[17:33] <James147> neo69: hmm... try running "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install -f && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[17:33] <James147> (update package list, upgrade your systems package to teh latest version, fix broken packages and install kubuntu-deksotp is it isnt already)
[17:39] <neo69> James147: going to reboot
[17:42] <neo69> hi
[17:42] <neo69> James147: no luck
[17:42] <neo69> still black :(
[17:42] <James147> neo69: could you create a new user and see if it works for them :S
[17:43] <neo69> James147: ok, be right back
[17:47] <neo69> James147: I already had another user, started with it and it worked ok
[17:48] <jmichaelx> neo69: any idea as to what could have caused the problem?
[17:48] <neo69> jmichaelx: no
[17:48] <James147> neo69: mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasm* ~    << that will move the plasma config files to your desktop and let plasma recreate them... should fix your problem and reset plasma to its default settings
[17:50] <neo69> going to reboot
[17:50] <James147> if that works you can reconfigre plasma, or try to fix the configs manually...
[17:50] <James147> :p
[17:53] <neo69> James147: it's working now
[17:53] <neo69> James147, jmichaelx: thank you very much
[17:56] <jmichaelx> neo69: all the thanks go to James147, but you are still welcome :-)
[17:56] <neo69> :-)
[17:59] <neo69> James147: you said "mv ~/.kde..." not "cp ~/.kde", right?
[18:00] <James147> yeah... cp wouldnt do anything as the configs would still be in place
[18:00] <James147> neo69: need to move or delete them to cause plasma to reset its self
[18:01] <neo69> James147: oh, ok
[18:01] <James147> ^^ and if alls working as expected you can delete (or move somewhere else) the configs that are now in your home dir :)
[18:01] <neo69> James147: thaks again
[18:01] <James147> (if you dont plan on recovering any of the settings from them that is)
[18:02] <neo69> didn't make many changes
[18:02] <neo69> going to just delete them
[18:03] <James147> neo69: fair enough :) though in general its best to keep configs for a few days incase you remember somehitng you forgot ...
[18:05] <neo69> James147: yes, you are right :-)
[18:29] <marvin273> kurze frage noch zu dd, er kopiert ja bit für bit, kopiert er auch den bereich der nicht in der paritionstabelle vergeben ist, also praktisch den leeren bereich oder nur die daten die wirklich geschrieben wurden?sonst muss ich schauen wo ich 700GB speicher herbekommen:P
[18:31] <genii-around> !no | marvin273
[18:31] <genii-around> Hm, probably !de actually
[18:32] <marvin273> oh I'm sorry, was disconnected and forgot that the german channel isn't joint
[18:36] <LINKSWORD2> Hello, everybody.
[18:48] <genii-around> Hello LINKSWORD2
[18:49] <LINKSWORD2> Oh, nice. :)
[18:49] <LINKSWORD2> Well, I've now gotta restart my system.
[18:49] <LINKSWORD2> If you'll excuse me. :P
[19:00] <markit> I need flashblock component in natty, I've universe repo active, but can't find... any clue? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/amd64/xul-ext-flashblock/1.5.13-1build1
[19:00] <trions> What is the command of "System Settings" program? I need to open it as sudo. "kdesu system-settings" does not work.
[19:00] <markit> aptitude search flashblock return nothing
[19:01] <Pici> markit: Isn't that a firefox extension?
[19:01] <markit> yes, I need to install system wide
[19:02] <markit> and that package does exactly what I want
[19:02] <markit> but can't find it :)
[19:03] <genii-around> markit: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=flashblock seems to indicate it got dropped after 10.10
[19:04] <markit> genii-around: damn, you are right, but googling with flashblock and "natty" I got the page I linked above
[19:04] <genii-around> markit: If you feel adventurous you could manually download the 10.10 deb file and install it
[19:04] <markit> and there seems is available...
[19:04] <markit> genii-around: well, I would prefer download the extension and install where is available system wide, but I've no idea
[19:04] <markit> and also a place where I disabled cache of firefox globally does not work anymore with FF >= 5
[19:05] <markit> (I've squid for central access, so no need of local cache for every account)
[19:05] <markit> anyone here has ever installed an add-on globally for FF 5 in natty? :)
[19:06] <markit> btw, soon I hope I will need a html5 video block :)
[19:07] <genii-around> markit: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable PPA looks possibly good
[19:08] <markit> mmm interesting, but this way I will also have latest FF... could be a good idea indeed
[19:11] <markit> genii-around: do you think that italian lang pack "-it" is available for natty? seems not reading that list
[19:13] <genii-around> markit: The -it  language pack is there, it's on the third page of listings https://launchpad.net/%7Emozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable/+index?batch=75&memo=150&start=150
[19:14] <markit> genii-around: yes, thanks, but as far as I understand, is for 10.04 or 10.10
[19:15] <genii-around> markit: The change dates on the files indicate June 2011
[19:17] <markit> genii-around: forgive me, but I've # add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable, aptitude update
[19:17] <markit> then aptitude search flash but can't find flashblock
[19:20] <genii-around> markit: Darn, yes. I see now by filtering there using Natty it has only webfav package :( Apologies
[19:21] <genii-around> markit: It might still be worth a try to download the 10.10 .deb file from packages.ubuntu.com and see if dpkg -i packagename      on it groans or not
[19:21] <markit> genii-around: don't worry, thanks for your help anyway
[19:22] <markit> I'm a bit scared having an "obsolete" package installed, is a ltsp server
[19:22] <markit> and probably the 10.10 version is not for ff 6 that I have in natty
[19:22] <markit> or in any case I forecast some troubles :)
[19:22] <markit> wondering the reason has been removed
[19:23] <markit> because maybe I can find the way to install the addon system wide, but will not be automatically updated
[19:23] <markit> while with the package it was
[19:49] <erikas> sweiki
[20:28] <mauri> in which file are stored all the services that start at the kde boot?
[23:03] <pawleeq> hello
[23:05] <pawleeq> I am using kubuntu 11.04 and I have problem with network management, in KDE everything works ok, but when I login into another desktop enviroment (Fluxbox, Gnome3) the network does not work. What to do?
[23:06] <avihay> pawleeq: can you run ifconfig from KDE and from another DE and pastebin the output?
[23:07] <pawleeq> avihay: mmt
[23:08] <avihay> should take you 5-15 min
[23:09] <pawleeq> avihay: here you are: http://pastebin.com/cDv0Xyzx
[23:11] <avihay> ok, what I see is that your wired connection tryes to find an IP but doesn't succeed, and that your wireless does succeed, that's from when it works, I guess
[23:12] <avihay> is the wired connection supposed to get an avahi address even though it's disconnected?
[23:13] <pawleeq> avihay: I dunno, I did not change any defaults
[23:14] <avihay> what about the output from when in another DE?
[23:15] <pawleeq> avihay: ok, that will take a bit longer, wait pls :)
[23:16] <avihay> welcome back
[23:18] <pawleeq> avihay: :) here is ifconfig from fluxbox :http://pastebin.com/F6Em2Ubf
[23:19] <avihay> ok, the fluxbox output shows you didn't recive an ip address
[23:20] <avihay> I'm guessing fluxbox has a network manager of some sort? if not, you either need to connect manually (every time (you can write s script or something)) or install a network manager that will work under fluxbox
[23:21] <pawleeq> well, before I upgraded to kde4.7 it fluxobx was working with knetworkmanager
[23:21] <James147> pawleeq: knetworkmanger us deperacated... kubuntu should now use the network manager widget instead
[23:21] <avihay> was*
[23:22] <James147> pawleeq: try the gnome network manager applet (nm-applet) in network-manager-gnome package if i remember correctly
[23:22] <avihay> or wicd
[23:22] <James147> avihay: that would break the kde network maanger widget
[23:22] <avihay> I'm guessing gnome's got nicer over time
[23:23] <pawleeq> I already tried wicd and happenned exactly what James said
[23:23] <avihay> oh
[23:23] <pawleeq> when I launched nm-applet in gnome3, the problem was still the same
[23:24] <BluesKaj> or , sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[23:24] <avihay> from the logs, I think it's a wireless connection
[23:24] <avihay> err output
[23:25] <avihay> compare lines 24
[23:26] <BluesKaj> ok sorry . sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[23:26] <James147> pawleeq: you may want to ask on #ubuntu about why nm-applet no longer works
[23:26] <James147> BluesKaj: what will jsut brin the interface up... it wont connec tor anything else
[23:26] <pawleeq> ok, I will gie it a try
[23:27] <pawleeq> thanks and good night :)
[23:27] <James147> (and the interface is already up if ifconfig lists iit_
[23:27] <BluesKaj> then sudo dhclient wlan0
[23:27] <James147> BluesKaj: how are you ment to get a ipv4 address without associating with the ap?
[23:28] <BluesKaj> it tells the app to cvonnect nm , since nm isn't activated
[23:28] <James147> ?? that dosnt make any sence
[23:29] <BluesKaj> nm is an awful app,
[23:29] <James147> dhclient just sends a dhcp request  to try and get an ip adress
[23:29] <James147> dosnt make nm do anything
[23:31] <BluesKaj> yeah, I got nm to work ,with those commands , but I no longer use it...wicd for wifi.../etc/network/interfaces for static IP eth0\
[23:31] <James147> BluesKaj: no, you worked around nm to connect to a wired connection...
[23:32] <James147> "ifconfig eth0 && dhclient eth0"  will connect you to the network without networkmanager (assuming there is a dhcp server somewhere on the network)
[23:32] <BluesKaj> well, nm showed that it was connected
[23:32] <James147> BluesKaj: because you where :) nm didnt connect you
[23:42] <gigenieks> Hi guys, can someone point shurtcuts so I can get these see pictures --- 1) http://www.google.lv/imgres?q=4+workspaces+by+side+Ubuntu&um=1&hl=lv&biw=1680&bih=881&tbm=isch&tbnid=mH-iOD_Kdr5yMM:&imgrefurl=http://anuragbansal.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/how-to-get-different-wallpapers-on-each-workspace-in-ubuntu/&docid=YaESDGGbR9JU5M&w=1280&h=800&ei=STpUTv-QB8P0sgbclPEW&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=590&page=5&tbnh=163&tbnw=241&start=112&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:1,
[23:42] <gigenieks> s:112&tx=100&ty=50  AND 2) http://www.google.lv/imgres?q=4+workspaces+by+side+Ubuntu&um=1&hl=lv&biw=1680&bih=881&tbm=isch&tbnid=Kkp_ffgpFLW4qM:&imgrefurl=http://www.linoob.com/2011/04/ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal-first-impressions/&docid=Xvo6VnplTXVSvM&w=1600&h=900&ei=STpUTv-QB8P0sgbclPEW&zoom=1
[23:42] <FloodBotK1> gigenieks: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:46] <gigenieks> do I need to install compiz to get these?
[23:51] <avihay> gigenieks: http://anuragbansal.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/how-to-get-different-wallpapers-on-each-workspace-in-ubuntu/   and I think you do need to install compiz
[23:54] <gigenieks> I need to SWITCH to workspaces in that way using keyboard shurtcuts? So your link is not what I am asking. First question do I need compiz or something else to install / enable to get even those possibilities? Second question what EXACTLY Is keyboard shurtcuts? :)
[23:54] <avihay> it's your link
[23:54] <gigenieks> I am in #kubuntu channel => using Kubuntu 11.04
[23:54] <cetta> hey all
[23:55] <gigenieks> my link is picture ;)
[23:55] <avihay> sec, do you want the pictures?
[23:55] <avihay> or the different walpepares per desktop?
[23:56] <gigenieks> neither I have 4 workspaces (desktops) I need to switch using those 2 methods
[23:56] <gigenieks> SWITCH
[23:56] <gigenieks> using KEYBOARD ;)
[23:56] <cetta> hey all
[23:56] <cetta> im new to ubuntu
[23:56] <cetta> and new to irc
[23:56] <cetta> so idk what im doing
[23:56] <cetta> anyone friendly in here?
[23:56] <FloodBotK1> cetta: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:59] <gigenieks> I'm new to IRC too, so first thing don't flood (meaning don't press enter so many times; say all you have to say in 1 paragraph not 5 like you did above)
[23:59] <cetta> okay, got it. wont do that again.


[23:36] <sirninja> artelus: I don't think it would but the most it could possibly do is mess up grub.. which you can reinstall form a live cd
[23:36] <rww> Artelus: It shouldn't touch your Ubuntu installation, but might overwrite GRUB. If it does, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub will fix that.
[23:37] <SeaPhor> pedrinhobrito, um ? english please.. (j/k)
[23:37] <je||y> raylu: could the package owners be installing malware on my computer?
[23:37] <Artelus> Alright, thanks guys. :)
[23:37] <erUSUL> pedrinhobrito: i know gnuplot can; consult the exact syntax in gnuplot documentation
[23:37] <pedrinhobrito> Artelus, it will consider the MBR is corrupted and will overwrite it, but the ubuntu instalation won't be touched. you can start from a livecd and reconfig grub
[23:37] <raylu> SeaPhor: he has some data points and he wants to draw a line of best fit
[23:37] <raylu> je||y: yes
[23:37] <computa_mike> Artelus: I was going to point out that MS tends to assume it's like the highlander (can be only one)  - and you may need to fix grub afterwards.
[23:37] <lstarnes> je||y: but that is very unlikely
[23:38] <t3hp00ky> So your just bashing against VLC
[23:38] <pedrinhobrito> erUSUL, i didn't find the documentation very useful. i know it can do so, but i didn't find the right command :(
[23:38] <raylu> t3hp00ky: no, i'm bashing gui apps in general
[23:38] <computa_mike> Artelus: However for quickening - you can't go wrong with linux
[23:38] <je||y> hey my mouse hasn't worked ever since this bluetooth update. what the hecks going on??????
[23:38] <t3hp00ky> What player do you prefer and VLC is more than a GUI app
[23:39] <erUSUL> pedrinhobrito: iirc it is fit
[23:39] <raylu> t3hp00ky: ..i'm aware. and mplayer
[23:40] <erUSUL> pedrinhobrito: http://www.gnuplot.info/docs/node82.html#1541
[23:41] <je||y> my mouse hasn't worked ever since the bluetooth update. what the hecks going on?????? anyone?
[23:42] <opennick> Hie!!! Buddies
[23:42] <je||y> HIE? de! | opennick
[23:42] <je||y> de! | opennick
[23:43] <opennick> can somebody tell me, if i can use Ubuntu Official Logo on my Website
[23:43] <Flannel> opennick: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place for that (and we'll need some more information)
[23:44] <Fezzler> I have a wireless and wired connection in my Ubuntu PC.  How do I tell Ubuntu to make the wired the first preference.  Wireless is now.
[23:44] <ZykoticK9> opennick, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official
[23:45] <opennick> Thank a lot ZykoticK9
[23:46] <Flannel> opennick: You may or may not be legally allowed to do so.  Depends on what you're planning on doing with it.
[23:46] <opennick> yapp
[23:46] <frog_> hi, could someone help me http://pastebin.com/m2b335533
[23:46] <bruce_> I opened jockey-gtk and it says "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[23:47] <Flannel> opennick: As I said, if you come to #ubuntu-offtopic, we can help you more.
[23:47] <opennick> Flannel : can i follow the channel recommended by you for rest ?
[23:47] <opennick> ok sure
[23:47] <opennick> Flannel : Thanks a lot
[23:48] <aoglobalent> hello, I need some help with certain aspects of running my newly installed Ubunutu
[23:48] <aoglobalent> can any one be for help?
[23:49] <SeaPhor> !ask | aoglobalent
[23:50] <aoglobalent> o.k., I just installed Ubuntu on my box, i.e. IBM Thinkpad t500. I have installed wine as well as compiz. Wine is not allowing me to install certain MS software? Secondly, I did everything I was told regarding compiz and that does not work either?
[23:52] <ZykoticK9> aoglobalent, regarding wine did you check the applications your going to run at http://appdb.winehq.org/appbrowse.php ? this is a great resource for running things under wine.
[23:52] <waxhead_> I have a question about module cofig settings...
[23:52] <ZykoticK9> aoglobalent, but try to look for native linux applications as soon as you can :)
[23:53] <waxhead_> if I have more than the one card of the same type, if I setup options in the options file, does it work for all the cards?
[23:53] <aoglobalent> Compiz?
[23:53] <graelin> aoglobalent: system-->preferences-->appearance--->visual effects tab ---> set something other than none. It requires hardware acceleration
[23:53] <meatball_> when i edit the .bashrc file, do the changes take effect upon saving the changes, or do i have to do something to apply them
[23:53] <waxhead_> meatball_: type in source .bashrc
[23:53] <erUSUL> meatball_: source the file to make it affect the current shell
[23:54] <ZykoticK9> meatball_, bust type bash again :)
[23:54] <ariel> holaaa
[23:54] <ariel> alquien habla español?
[23:54] <erUSUL> meatball_: or close it and open it again
[23:54] <rww> !es | ariel
[23:54] <waxhead_> source is better though
[23:54] <erUSUL> !es | ariel
[23:54] <SeaPhor> aoglobalent, try #winehq for the wine issues,,,
[23:55] <aoglobalent> did the change in preferences
[23:55] <nixn00b> can someone please tell me what buttons to use to switch from virtual box back to ubuntu?
[23:55] <aoglobalent> nothing happened
[23:55] <aoglobalent> ?
[23:55] <rww> nixn00b: the right Ctrl key + F, I think. If that doesn't work, it's something other than "F"...
[23:55] <meatball_> has anyone here linked java to mysql on ubuntu before?
[23:56] <gabriel_> Hello all
[23:56] <ZykoticK9> aoglobalent, did it say that compiz couldn't be enabled?  if you set it to extra - do you windows wobble ?
[23:56] <ariel> gabriel
[23:56] <ariel> Hablas Español?
[23:56] <custom_> Hello all. Can anyone help me with ubuntu installation? I already have 3 primary partitions. So I want to create an extended one and to create swap, root, and home there. How can I achieve this?
[23:56] <erUSUL> ariel: entra en el canal #ubuntu-es
[23:56] <aoglobalent> yes they wobble
[23:56] <gnelisse> hi, i am looking for a good auth-client-config with support for ldap authentication, caching
[23:56] <aoglobalent> no it did not say it could not be enabled
[23:56] <rww> custom_: You can do that using the "Manual Partitioning" option in the Ubuntu installer.
[23:56] <sebsebseb> custom_: I do it in partition editor, then finnish off in manual install
[23:56] <ZykoticK9> aoglobalent, then compiz is working :)
[23:56] <graelin> aoglobalent: is your video card capable? May need to get the restricted drivers for it. If you selected extra setting, and it stuck, restart X and see if you can get it going then
[23:57] <nutzer> hi
[23:57] <ariel> pero no me parece. el canal ese :s
[23:57] <aoglobalent> o.k., then why is the cube not working
[23:57] <aoglobalent> ?
[23:57] <rww> ariel: /join #ubuntu-es
[23:57] <ZykoticK9> aoglobalent, you need ccsm to enable cube and spin cube
[23:57] <nutzer> hallo
[23:57] <aoglobalent> ccsm?
[23:57] <erUSUL> ariel: escribe /join #ubuntu-es y dale enter
[23:57] <sebsebseb> !info ccsm
[23:58] <ariel> ok
[23:58] <sebsebseb> !find ccsm
[23:58] <gabriel_> Does anyone know why my panels in gnome desktop will not load automatically?  I have to use the alt-f2 run box to bring up terminal and type in gnome-panel then i don't get any window frames
[23:58] <rww> !ccsm
[23:58] <kree> hello peoploblow
[23:58] <ZykoticK9> sebsebseb, it's compiz-setting-manager or some such thing
[23:58] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9: yep
[23:59] <SeaPhor> aoglobalent, try sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:59] <linux_user400354> why will amarok 2 not play any of my music?


[13:03] <locodir-user> hey guys, I wanna join in the team but I am not from TN but TX :/ we don't have a Loco team of our own...