[00:16] <rufsketch1> Hello everyone
[00:16] <rufsketch1> I was trying to install nvidia drivers. I ran nvidia-xconfig and restarted, and now I'm stuck in terminal
[00:17] <rufsketch1> I replaced xorg with its backup, but to no avail
[00:17] <rufsketch1> help please?
[00:19] <rufsketch1> !nvidia
[01:01] <Goliath> where is kde splash screen located?
[01:04] <valorie> you mean changing it?
[01:04] <valorie> it's in systemsettings
[01:04] <Goliath> valorie: yes
[01:04] <Goliath> where exactly?
[01:05] <valorie> startup and shutdown, i think, in System Administration
[01:05] <Mase_wk> Login Screen
[01:05] <valorie> mmm, well, login screen is the KDM
[01:06] <valorie> which isn't the splash
[01:06] <Mase_wk> i thought it was a property of the kdm theme
[01:06] <Mase_wk> but i could be wrong
[01:07] <valorie> fiddlesticks
[01:07] <valorie> can't find it, and yet I know I have set it
[01:07] <valorie> !splash
[01:07] <valorie> heh
[01:07] <valorie> just ask ubottu!
[01:08] <valorie> Workspace Appearance, to be specific
[01:10] <Goliath> valorie: ok and where is the default splash theme saved at?
[01:11] <valorie> hmm, I have no clue
[01:11] <Goliath> i need to find it so i can modify the splash theme
[01:11] <valorie> however, if you Get Hot New Stuff, it should say where things are being saved
[01:11] <Goliath> k
[01:11] <valorie> or look in KDE-Looks.org
[01:11] <valorie> which is what that links to
[01:12] <valorie> new splashes and themes are always welcome
[01:26] <Goliath> valorie: is there a way to remove the button on the upper-right for unlocking widgets?
[01:29] <valorie> mmm, there must be
[01:29] <valorie> because I don't have one
[01:29] <valorie> just the one on the lower right
[01:29] <valorie> oops, lying -- it's still there
[01:30] <valorie> you might ask in #plasma
[01:30] <Goliath> i somehow removed mine
[01:30] <Goliath> while using panels
[01:30] <valorie> it's barely visible, which is why I thought it was gone
[01:30] <Goliath> maybe a bug
[01:46] <Goliath>  splash screens: /usr/share/apps/ksplash
[02:12] <diego_> p2p program? like ares for linux?
[04:29] <fengya> ？？？
[05:37] <ecinx> i updated my laptop today and mybluetooth isn't wroking
[05:38] <ecinx> it says no bt adapters found, please attatch one
[05:38] <ecinx> please connnect one*
[05:39] <ecinx> the BT light on my notebook is also OFF,
[05:40] <makuseru> Im having some problems with Ktorrent. Sometime last week KTorrent started acting odd, and now when ever i open it my computer slows to a crawl, almost making it crash. Anyone know why this would happen and how I could fix it?
[05:51] <valorie> makuseru: how about starting ktorrent from the console, so you can see some output?
[05:51] <valorie> and also run top or system monitor, etc.
[05:51] <valorie> see what's going on
[05:54] <makuseru> valorie: i wouldnt know what to look for in the console, but the system monitor reports 2% cpu usage.
[05:55] <elcid_> Does system monitor report root processes
[05:55] <elcid_> cause top doesnt unless you sudo?
[05:56] <makuseru> elcid_: it says if something is running as root.
[05:59] <valorie> 2% sounds very low
[06:00] <elcid_> Yeah mines running 17-33%
[06:01] <elcid_> and top reports a lot more processes than system monitor
[06:05] <makuseru> The only thing taking up significant % is xorg.
[06:08] <elcid_> try at terminal `sudo gnome-system-monitor' that will give you more "truth"
[06:09] <elcid_> i get ~64 processes invoking it as regular user and ~100 as superuser
[06:11] <elcid_> I just ran into this problem with another app, and i thought that I was looking at all processes in top, but I wasn't.
[07:11] <epimeth> ahoy!  where is the option to install kubuntu alongside windows using wubi?
[07:23] <valorie> you can't install kubuntu directly using wubi?
[07:23] <valorie> hmmm
[07:23] <valorie> sucks a bit
[07:23] <FloodBotK3> valorie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:23] <valorie> so helpful you are, floodie
[07:24] <valorie> !wubi
[07:25] <valorie> so it is;, which explains why I've not heard much about it
[07:26] <maco> i thought you could
[07:26] <maco> but i think it involves downloading wubi separately and handing it the kubuntu iso
[07:48] <valorie> interesting, so I wonder if we offer it at kub. org?
[07:49] <valorie> cool, there it is
[07:50] <valorie> http://wubi-installer.org/
[07:50] <valorie> mmmm, but then I don't see it on that page
[07:50] <valorie> not even the alternate install stuff
[07:51] <maco> wubi doesnt work with alt cds does it?
[07:51] <valorie> I've never tried it
[07:53]  * nlsthzn sees WUBI and runs away... it is scary
[08:03] <Coossa> such sadness.
[08:03] <Coossa> why must it be this way KDE
[08:03] <Coossa> how do you tint my reality till i die, because of my quality of life
[08:03] <Coossa> and ownership which will not be broken when i wake up after the death
[08:03] <Coossa> and in the reality , the lie fades to such huge
[08:04] <Coossa> such
[08:04] <Coossa> why KDE
[08:04] <Coossa> !!!
[08:04] <FloodBotK3> Coossa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:04] <Coossa> oh floodbot.
[08:04] <Coossa> how much i wish you could feel as i do
[08:04] <Coossa> to place a lantern beneath those nails
[08:05] <Coossa> bone vortexes at the gaps on both sides of our finger nails
[08:05] <Coossa> i could pull it out and show you what i mean. This KDE
[08:06] <Coossa> ggaaaha. i can't take it
[09:05] <ct529> hi guys .... if I install lxdm, can I run kde off lxdm instead of kdm?
[09:05] <Tm_T> yes
[09:07] <ct529> Tm_T: do you "loose" anything (configurations and so on)?
[09:17] <Tm_T> ct529: shouldn't, other than possibly session switching gets trickier
[09:22] <nlsthzn> kubuntu 10.10, running KDE 4.6... windows not always refresshing as they should when I min/max them or scroll (firefox etc)... any ideas why?
[09:22] <ct529> Tm_T: not worried about it! Thanks a lot ....
[09:25] <Tm_T> nlsthzn: hmm, which graphics card you have?
[09:26] <nlsthzn> Tm_T: intel... on a laptop... will be back soon ... sorry
[10:19] <nlsthzn> Tm_T: Back.... it is Intel 945GME Express Integrated Graphics
[10:30] <Tm_T> nlsthzn: do you encounter the same problem if you disable the desktop effects
[10:30] <nlsthzn> Tm_T: Unfortunatly not
[10:30]  * nlsthzn needs his bling
[10:31] <Tm_T> nlsthzn: I mean, could you try if it makes any difference so we have some idea what it might be?
[10:31] <nlsthzn> to be honest I haven't had desktop effects off long enough but the few times I have it seems not to happen when it is off
[10:32] <nlsthzn> will turn it off now
[10:32] <nlsthzn> QQ
[10:33] <Tm_T> nlsthzn: if there's no issues when effects are off, try increasing the mem given to the graphics card from bios and see if that makes difference when effects are on
[10:34] <nlsthzn> Tm_T: Hmmm... not sure I can set that... (cause if I could I surely would have already :p)
[10:34] <nlsthzn> will have a look... thanks
[10:35] <nlsthzn> Hmmm I see there is still a lot of eye candy in KDE even without dektop effects (and the whole desktop isn't so sluggish anylonger)... I may need to keep it off regardless :)
[10:37] <valorie> Tm_T: how on earth does one do THAT trick?
[10:37] <valorie> I've often wished for more graphics memory
[10:38] <valorie> of course, messing with the bios sounds a bit dangerous
[10:39] <Tm_T> valorie: messing with bios is always the first thing I do, and often there's an option to adjust the reserved memory for the integrated graphics in the bios
[10:39] <nlsthzn> valorie: if the bios gives the option to increase/decrease video memory it isn't "dangerous" per say :)
[10:39] <valorie> wow
[10:39] <Tm_T> I think in some cases it can be adjusted from Linux too
[10:40] <nlsthzn> Tm_T: I will check it out if and when I reboot again... for now I am happy without the effects... (may also get resolved later in a an update etc.)
[10:41] <Tm_T> nlsthzn: yup, could be driver issue too
[10:41] <nlsthzn> Tm_T: that is 99% of the time the problem
[10:43] <Tm_T> nlsthzn: not enough mem has been the most frequent issue in my use
[10:43] <nlsthzn> Will keep it mind, thanks :)
[10:55] <ct529> is it possible to update 1004 to 1010 automatically?
[10:56] <Tm_T> !upgrade
[10:57] <Tm_T> ct529: ^
[11:20] <ct529> Tm_T: thanks a lot
[11:21] <Tm_T> ct529: np
[11:45] <jordi_> es
[11:54] <manish> jjlk
[12:33] <amichair> is there a iptables rules script that runs on startup? (by default, or with a default location, that is)
[13:01] <Tsunami1> Sveiki idioti
[13:03] <jhohn> amichair: easiest is to put it in /etc/network/interfaces or add scripts to /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ and /etc/network/if-post-down.d/
[13:04] <amichair> jhohn: is inteface only for fixed networks? I don't see the wireless stuff there
[13:05] <Tsunami1> plz i need help, fast
[13:06] <jhohn> amichair: Do you use networkmanager?
[13:06] <jhohn> Tsunami: if you need help you should not title us idiots. Help yourself!
[13:06] <amichair> jhohn: I think so, if that's what the standard applet in the system tray uses
[13:07] <jhohn> amichair: ok, thats networkmanager. Moment pls.
[13:07] <amichair> I saw in centos there's just a standard iptables init.d script, with a standard location for the rules file, I take it there's no equivalent in ubuntu?
[13:08] <jhohn> amichair: have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Configuration%20on%20Startup%20for%20NetworkManager
[13:10] <Tsunami1> Me eat potatoes fast
[13:11] <amichair> jhohn: that looks ok, thanks. Too bad it's not there by default (what's there to lose?)
[13:14] <jhohn> amichair: A firewall needs to be run on an extra system. It makes no sense to run it on the system I want to secure with it. Just close all ports you do not need. Thats it.
[13:15] <jhohn> amichair: no open port == nothing to get in
[13:15] <Tsunami1> Me eat potatoes fast very
[13:15] <amichair> jhohn: my scenario is a netbook/laptop with some dev stuff on it (e.g. web server), but even without it, I see there's a cups port open by default... so it's not too secure when connecting to random wireless networks
[13:16] <amichair> I'd like to keep the ports open locally, but closed to the world
[13:17] <jhohn> amichair: For this using a seperate system as firewall will be best
[13:18] <amichair> jhohn: but it's a portable system... won't be carrying an extra one as a firewall anytime soon :-)
[13:18] <jhohn> amichair: configure the services to only listen to <IP_ADDRESS>/8
[13:20] <amichair> jhohn: I think that's more work and less secure than just using iptables, no?
[13:21] <cordonnier> hello!  someone who had trouibles with 3dsp @KUbuntu 10.04.1 - 2.6.32-24   driver already installed
[13:21] <jhohn> amichair: its more work but more secure but you do not get that much information about attackers in syslog
[13:22] <jhohn> !someone | cordonnier
[13:22] <amichair> jhohn: true... but I'm not sure I need it. It's just a dev box, not a honeypot :-)
[13:22] <Tsunami1> Kas teu tolet nau, ka tu beninjos kakaa?
[13:24] <jhohn> Tsunami1: Kindergarten finished already?
[13:24] <Tsunami1> Green
[13:25] <Tsunami1> Me eat potatoes fast very good
[13:26] <jhohn> amichair: so what daemons do you run?
[13:27] <Tsunami1> Yes, armchair
[13:27] <amichair> apache, sometimes tomcat, and apparently cups. also found exim running even though I never set it up... must be a dependency of something (I think apt-listchanges installed it at one point, oddly enough)
[13:31] <jhohn> amichair: apache -> edit /etc/apache2/ports.conf, change "Listen 80" to "Listen <IP_ADDRESS>:80"
[13:31] <Tsunami1> Me eat potatoes fast very good tomatoes
[13:31] <cordonnier> 3dsp (wifi and blueth) troubles.  driver already installed. netbook kubuntu 10.04.1-  2.6.32-24
[13:31] <jhohn> change "Listen 443" to "<IP_ADDRESS>:443" if you are using https
[13:31] <amichair> jhohn: thanks, but I think I'll stick to setting up the firewall. it's future-proof too.
[13:32] <amichair> jhohn: the link u sent me seems to do the trick
[13:32] <jhohn> its up to you
[13:32] <jhohn> if the FW do not start for any reason you have open ports to the net
[13:34] <amichair> jhohn: true, that's why I'm looking for the proper way to do it in a startup script
[13:36]  * Tsunami1 ir izcilas anglju valodas zinaashanas
[13:38] <amichair> are the /etc/network/if-pre-up.d and similar scripts used also by networkmanager, or are there two separate script mechanisms unknown to each other?
[13:39] <Tsunami1> echo buutu precizaak
[13:39] <jhohn> do not know exactly but I think networkmanager do not use scripts in /etc/network
[13:41] <jhohn> there is a networkmanager wiki at http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager
[14:02] <JuJuBee> Can someone help me with banshee? IT wont start up http://pastie.org/1536748
[14:12] <ubuntu> Salut
[14:13] <ubuntu> h
[14:13] <ubuntu> dfg
[14:13] <ubuntu> fgh
[14:13] <ubuntu> dgh
[14:13] <ubuntu> fgh
[14:13] <ubuntu___> hello
[14:13] <FloodBotK3> ubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:13] <ubuntu> tu ris
[14:13] <ubuntu___> hihih
[14:13] <ubuntu> lol
[14:13] <ubuntu> aller je me barre
[14:14] <ubuntu___> a pluis dans le bus
[14:20] <pliszka> hi
[14:21] <pliszka> has anyone had kubuntu on Mobile Intel® HM55 Express Chipset?
[14:31] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:48] <markit> kde 4.6, dolphin seems no more able to find files based upon i.e. creation or modification data... is that feature hidden somewhere? can't find it
[15:14] <cortex|sk> markit: in dolphin menu -> views -> panels -> filter or press F12
[15:14] <eternal> hey everyone, could someone help me out with something real quick?
[15:15] <eternal> ??
[15:15] <bluesceada> dont ask to ask, just ask ;-)
[15:15] <bluesceada> then we know if we can help
[15:15] <eternal> haha ok, thank you :)
[15:16] <eternal> i just downloaded kubuntu, and i wanted to install through wubi, but i am not getting the option.
[15:16] <eternal> i am just running wubi.exe from inside the iso
[15:16] <eternal> am i doing something wrong?
[15:16] <bluesceada> i don't know, never did that
[15:16] <bluesceada> wait a while, maybe someone else can answer your question
[15:16] <eternal> alright, thank you
[15:17] <bluesceada> but it's quite silent here somehow, ..
[15:17] <bluesceada> eternal: maybe the wubi.exe is not compiled for either 32 or 64bit, depending on what windows version you have
[15:17] <eternal> is it normally pretty active?
[15:17] <cortex|sk> eternal: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer
[15:18] <bluesceada> a bit more active i think
[15:18] <bluesceada> depends also on the time probably
[15:18] <eternal> hmm, alright i will read up on that
[15:19] <eternal> however, i downloaded the 64bit version of kubunto, i would have assumed it would have it work on 64 bit lol
[15:20] <bluesceada> eternal: maybe you have a 32bit windows?
[15:20] <eternal> i have 64bit
[15:20] <bluesceada> but this is just guessing, i dont really know anything about it
[15:20] <eternal> no, i appreciate any help i can get. i did it before with 10.04 i think it was
[15:20] <eternal> but i wanted the newer one
[15:21] <bluesceada> mabye also ask in some forum, where your question stands for a longer time
[15:21] <bluesceada> ah ok
[15:21] <eternal> i may, if it isnt answered here
[15:21] <eternal> however, if i am the only one getting this, the problem is certainly somewhere between the keyboard and the chair :-p
[15:22] <JuJuBee> Why would my arrows not work on my laptop but the numbers on number pad do (ie #8 = up etc...)?
[15:22] <JuJuBee> I have separate arrow keys from my numberpad and they have always worked before 10.10
[15:24] <eternal> sorry JuJuBee, i dont know :(
[15:26] <markit> cortex|sk: filter is disabled, I've been told works only with nepomuck, that I've disabled because don't want features like M$oscrap "background indexing"
[15:26] <markit> with 4.5 the files were searched "on the fly", probably through the find command
[15:26] <markit> and was very nice :)
[15:27] <eternal> does anyone know how to install kubuntu 10.10 through wubi?
[15:27] <cortex|sk> eternal: what exactly doesn't work ?
[15:27]  * nlsthzn runs from WUBI because it is EVIL (IMO of course)
[15:27] <eternal> i run wubi.exe from the iso file and it just gives me the normal options.
[15:28] <eternal> no option to install from within windows
[15:28] <cortex|sk> markit: have you tried kfind?
[15:29] <markit> cortex|sk: a separate program?
[15:29] <markit> (I've 4.6 on the laptop, now I'm on 4.5 here)
[15:29] <eternal> nlsthzn: why do you think wubi is evil? lol
[15:29] <markit> cortex|sk: oh, great, kfind is what was run by dophin 4.5
[15:29] <cortex|sk> ;)
[15:30] <markit> cortex|sk: thanks a LOT. is it possible to have it back to 4.6
[15:30] <markit> ?
[15:30] <cortex|sk> yes
[15:30] <markit> I mean, run directly from dolphin
[15:30] <nlsthzn> eternal: the amount of issues and problems on ubuntu forums related to wubi and the lack of user understanding is terrible
[15:30] <cortex|sk> i don't know
[15:30] <cortex|sk> :D
[15:30] <markit> cortex|sk: wondering why developers decided to reduce so much search capabilities... maybe they call it "improvements", I disagree a lot
[15:31] <eternal> if i install normally, and partition my HD, it is much more of a hassle to remove it. especially since the last time i did that, i had to fix the bootloader
[15:31] <Snowhog> eternal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wubi
[15:32] <eternal> thank you Snowhog, however i have used Wubi before.
[15:32] <eternal> this time, the option for "Install inside Windows" doesnt appear
[15:36] <bluesceada> eternal: did something change within windows?
[15:37] <eternal> well the only thing i can think of is that last time i had 32 bit windows 7, now i have 64 bit. i know you said about it not being compiled for 64 bit, but why would they package 32bit with a 64 bit install...
[15:37] <jimmy51_> i'm trying to use wine.  never got it to do anything in the past and it's doing nothing now.  i've installed the 'wine' package and just clicked on the setup.exe for the app i want to run.
[15:37] <bluesceada> maybe it is more complicated to compile it for 64bit windows
[15:37] <bluesceada> i dont know
[15:37] <eternal> that's ok, i may just do a normal install
[15:37] <bluesceada> try to run it in some sort of compatibility mode maybe
[15:37] <jimmy51_> i get a 'wine windows pro..' working taskbar item but then it disappears
[15:37] <eternal> if i cant figure it out, that's kinda all im left with
[15:38] <bluesceada> jimmy51_: maybe try "playonlinux"
[15:38] <jimmy51_> !info playonlinux
[15:38] <eternal> thanks, i will try compatibility modes
[15:38] <jimmy51_> bluesceada: i'll do that.  thanks!
[15:38] <bluesceada> it can also install some compatibility stuff or basic stuff you need like directx and .NET .. afaik
[15:39] <bluesceada> and have a separate wine prefix for each app, so you can ideally setup wine for that app
[15:40] <bluesceada> and... another hint ... try to run wine from shell and see the errors like open a shell in the directory where the .exe is and enter "wine xyz.exe" .. it might also show the missing .dll files on the shell then
[15:40] <bluesceada> which you only need to collect somewhere online and put in the app folder
[15:40] <eternal> thank you all who helped, my class is over, so i will have to try to figure this out later.
[15:40] <eternal> hopefully next time im on here will be from kubuntu!
[15:40] <bluesceada> eternal: lol, you should listen and not do something else ;-)
[15:40] <eternal> intro to programming in C
[15:41] <eternal> not all too new ;)
[15:41] <eternal> good day everyone
[15:55] <crazyzubr> проверка
[15:55] <Snowhog> !ru | crazyzubr
[16:04] <jimmy51_> bluesceada: thanks... this has potential.  i can't believe i've never heard of it!
[16:04] <jimmy51_> bluesceada: the app i'm running is a CAD viewer and it seems to be working ok.  the only thing is it days it doesn't see an opengl driver and is doing software rendering.
[16:04] <bluesceada> yeh i also just have heard of it two days ago ;D
[16:04] <jimmy51_> bluesceada: i'm glad i asked today and not friday! :)
[16:05] <bluesceada> maybe try installing directx with playonlinux then
[16:05] <bluesceada> or ask in #wine #playonlinux (if they exist..)
[16:05] <bluesceada> :D
[16:06] <pickabuntu> hello
[16:07] <rork> hi pickabuntu
[16:08] <pickabuntu> oh, sorry, wrong irc channel in the history.---- sorry once again
[16:10] <FlashDeluxe> hi, i am using a notebook with intel mobile 4 series chipset and i use the drivers which were automatically installed (i setted up a new kubuntu 10.10 from scratch), but they do not work properly :( Does somebody got a tip for me which is the best driver to use?
[16:11] <AlexZion> hi guys, I have some strange problem with Kubuntu Maverick and kde 4.6, stability problem ,can I ask some support here !?!
[16:11] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe, what are you referring to , graphics or ?
[16:12] <FlashDeluxe> BluesKaj: Yes
[16:12] <BluesKaj> AlexZion, yes, by all means ask your w=question
[16:12] <FlashDeluxe> my graphic hangs at some points :(
[16:12] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe, which graphics card ?
[16:13] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe, lspci | grep VGA in the konsole
[16:13] <FlashDeluxe> intel i915
[16:15] <Snowhog> FlashDeluxe: Read through http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=111&t=91663&hilit=.drirc - it might apply to your issue.
[16:16] <AlexZion> ok, sometime, i don't know exactly why,the system keep going (for example a video keep playng like any running process), but the mouse start to be unusable , end the mouse click , seems to be disabled ......, and after few minutes , everything comes back as normal ....
[16:16] <BluesKaj> !intel | FlashDeluxe
[16:16] <BluesKaj> wow the bot is becoming hopeless
[16:17] <AlexZion> so I don't know if the reason could be some my configuration or not....
[16:19] <FlashDeluxe> Shnowhog: Thanks, i will test it when i am at home, cause i do not have my notebook at my working place, BluesKaj thanks for help, too :)
[16:21] <FlashDeluxe> I have another question, if i want to run a flashvideo in fullscreen mode, it doesn`t seem to happen anything, but if i minimize my firefox i see that the fullscreen runs in the background (?!). Does anybody know this issue (and know how to fix it?)
[16:21] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe, I'm not sure about jockey , whether it applies to intel graphics , but check kmenu/applications/system/hardware drivers
[16:21] <elcid_> firefox douchebaggery
[16:22] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe, install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:23] <FlashDeluxe> BluesKaj: ok
[16:25] <BluesKaj> FlashDeluxe, also check out medibuntu
[16:25] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | FlashDeluxe
[16:27] <FlashDeluxe> BluesKaj: sounds good, didn`t know it before, thank you =)
[16:30] <Goliath> hey i create some panels with auto-hide option, and when i reboot they are set to always-visible again.
[16:34] <fritz_> Hi everybody! Anyone here familiar in xine issues? I've got a strange xine prob. It seems as if it resamples everything to 48 khz unregarded which sample rate the original has. I've tested it with 44.1 kHz flac and 96 kHz wav files. Always the result :(
[16:34] <fritz_> the same result, sorry
[16:38] <Peace-> mmm
[16:39] <Loresan> hi all, im looking to move from ubuntu to kubuntu prior to their 11.04 unity release. i was going to install kubuntu first but i was put off by some issues with KDE that were advertised. Are there any current major issues with kubuntu? or should it be stable and easy on the eye?
[16:39] <Peace-> Loresan:  kernels are the same
[16:39] <Peace-> so hardware should work in the same way
[16:40] <Peace-> kde 4.6 is a pretty stable release
[16:40] <Loresan> basically what im hoping for is to NOT have to spend time post installation ironing out bugs
[16:40] <Loresan> ok cool. thanks for the help :) im downloading the iso now
[16:40] <Peace-> Loresan: anyway...
[16:40] <Loresan> i think it was 4.5 that had issues? or something like that
[16:41] <Peace-> welll kde 4.5.1 had issues
[16:41] <Peace-> kde 4.5.5 should not
[16:41] <Peace-> i am right now on natty kde 4.6
[16:41] <Peace-> that is UNSTABLE
[16:42] <Peace-> on the kernel side
[16:42] <Peace-> kde is pretty stable
[16:42] <Loresan> yeah, that was part of my next question... how unstable is the alpha? is it worth installing into a virtual machine?
[16:43] <BluesKaj> Loresan, there are some 11.04 issues with the new X1.10 stack , it can break X on your system by removing and "upgrading " some important xorg files ...I reverted to 10.10 which is much more stable and runs kde 4.6 without any problems for my setup so far
[16:43] <Loresan> ok cool
[16:43] <Peace-> Loresan: it's not safe install an alpha expecially for noobs
[16:43] <Peace-> Loresan: i had problems with 10.10 kernel so ...
[16:44] <Peace-> i am on natty and lucid
[16:44] <Peace-> xD
[16:44] <Peace-> Loresan: http://blip.tv/file/4697114?filename=Nowardev-Kubuntu1104PreviewWithKde46882.m4v
[16:44] <Loresan> im a noob to kubuntu, i usually use fedora (due to the link between that and CentOS which i use for servers) but to be honest im falling out of love with fedora as a desktop
[16:45] <Peace-> Loresan: well... when fedora will remove your desktop with strange dependeces or freeze
[16:45] <Peace-> Loresan: i guess... you will change distro
[16:45] <BluesKaj> Peace-, the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel wouldn't boot into X on my other pc on 10.10, so i had to remove in favour of the <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:45] <Peace-> a lots of time it can depend from the hardware btw
[16:46] <Peace-> BluesKaj: well xx.10 for me is never a good release
[16:46] <Peace-> XX.04  is always better on my hardware
[16:46] <Peace-> :S
[16:46] <BluesKaj> on older pcs the text based alternate install cd is best
[16:46] <Peace-> BluesKaj: yea
[16:46] <Peace-> used a lots of time
[16:46] <genii-around> I always have 2 installs going... the last LTS on one partition, latest dev on another. This way you have some recourse when things fail horribly
[16:47] <Peace-> genii-around: mee too
[16:47] <Peace-> :)
[16:47] <Peace-> lucid and natty right now
[16:47] <Peace-> home shared
[16:47] <Peace-> different user btw
[16:47] <Peace-> users
[16:47] <rork> Loresan: do you remember which issues you worried about?
[16:47] <Peace-> Loresan: anyway take a look at this http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/what-you-should-want-to-do-on-kubuntu-10-04/
[16:48] <Peace-> Loresan: to set better dolphin
[16:48] <Peace-> Loresan: of course that is my point of view
[16:48] <Peace-> nothing more
[16:48] <Loresan> mainly it was KDEs stability but i have been assured that Kubuntu as a release is stable enough
[16:50] <Peace-> BluesKaj: xd http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/nonepomucknoserachstuff.png
[16:50] <Peace-> BluesKaj: ram usage
[16:50] <Peace-> :P
[16:51] <BluesKaj> I hope the the X1.10 is fixed by the time it's official..I'm a bit worried because it was unfixable on my setup ... the clean 10.10 install was easy enuff with a /home partiton that saved my stuff
[16:52] <Peace-> BluesKaj: ??
[16:53] <genii-around> BluesKaj: So far I'm only having major probs with my big old laptop which has nvidia onboard. The netbook which is running identical setup otherwise has an intel and hehaves perfectly
[16:53] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i have added on natty xedegers ppa...
[16:53] <BluesKaj> on 11.04 Peace-
[16:53] <Peace-> BluesKaj: that repository is not safe ... but of course it's safe if oyu know how to downgrade your driver..
[16:54] <Loresan> oh, i have another question.. would any of you happen to be using a sandy bridge processor by any remote chance?
[16:54] <BluesKaj> genii-around, aha , both my pcs have nvidia pcie cards , that's probly the focus of the prblem
[16:54] <bug_> hello
[16:54] <Peace-> BluesKaj: intel here
[16:54] <bug_> can any help with installing Adobe AIR in Kubuntu 10.10?
[16:54] <BluesKaj> !sandybridge
[16:55] <Peace-> adobe air?
[16:55] <Peace-> what is it ?
[16:55] <bug_> yeh adobe air
[16:55] <Peace-> bug_: exe?
[16:55] <bug_> oops sorry about that
[16:55] <bug_> nope i download ed it as a bin file
[16:55] <bug_> the options were .bin .deb .rpm or YUM
[16:56] <Peace-> bug_: so .. if there is a deb...
[16:56] <Peace-> i would test the deb...
[16:56] <Peace-> anyway
[16:56] <bug_> is deb the best choice
[16:56] <Peace-> maybe just chmod +x filebin
[16:56] <Peace-> should work
[16:56] <Peace-> running it like
[16:56] <bug_> i'll the chmod
[16:56] <Peace->  /path/.filebin
[16:57] <Peace->  /path/./filebin
[16:57] <genii-around> bug_: When there is a .deb package available, it is always the first choice
[16:58] <bug_> ok tried the chmod and i get the Nosuch File or Dircetory i'll try the deb file, can it run from ksoftware manger
[16:58] <BluesKaj> sudo ./binfile
[16:58] <Peace-> BluesKaj: mm why sudo
[16:58] <bug_> sorr a bit of a newbiw
[16:58] <BluesKaj> bug make sure the file in /home
[16:58] <BluesKaj> is
[16:58] <bug_> the file is in /home
[16:59] <BluesKaj> Peace-, probly just a habit
[16:59] <Peace-> BluesKaj: mm dangerous :P
[16:59] <bug_> the file name is AdobeAIRInstaller.bin
[16:59] <BluesKaj> I'm the onl;y user so it doesn't really matter
[16:59] <Peace-> BluesKaj: :)
[16:59] <BluesKaj> not dangerous in my case Peace-
[17:00] <Peace-> bug_: where is the file
[17:00] <Peace-> bug_: give me the path
[17:00] <BluesKaj> ok time for my daily constitution /walk ..bbl
[17:00] <frank_> anyone here who can help me with cairo dock?
[17:00] <Peace-> BluesKaj: bye
[17:00] <Peace-> frank_: cairo :S
[17:00] <bug_> should i ope the file from the download optin as a Gdebi installer or just save the file
[17:00] <Peace-> frank_: there is a plasmoid
[17:01] <Peace-> frank_: look on kde apps
[17:01] <Peace-> frank_: there is a nice plasmoid like cairo
[17:01] <bug_> http://get.adobe.com/air/
[17:01] <bug_> http://get.adobe.com/air/thankyou/?installer=Adobe_AIR_2.5.1_for_Linux_%28.deb%29
[17:01] <bug_> should i ope the file from the download optin as a Gdebi installer or just save the file??
[17:02] <Peace-> bug_: open with gdebi
[17:02] <bug_> ok , took the punt and am doing that
[17:04] <bug_> i hate slow connections
[17:05] <bug_> is there a program that be used as an idnetity cloaker, I am currently in the middle east and can't do my lottery tickets in Australia
[17:10] <bug_> thanks Peace, it seems to be working
[17:12] <JuJuBee> Anybody able to help me get banshee to run?  Won't start... http://pastie.org/1536748
[17:28] <Peace-> JuJuBee: bashee?
[17:28] <Peace-> JuJuBee: ask to #ubuntu
[17:28] <Peace-> JuJuBee: this is kubuntu channel
[17:29] <JuJuBee> I know but I run it in kubuntu and they tell me ask in kubuntu then...
[17:30] <Peace-> JuJuBee: i guess here nobody uses bashee.., kubuntu is a part of ubuntu
[17:30] <Peace-> JuJuBee: anyway ...
[17:31] <Peace-> JuJuBee: seems a bashee bug...
[17:31] <Peace-> JuJuBee: http://www.google.it/search?sourceid=chrome&client=ubuntu&channel=cs&ie=UTF-8&q=The+program+'Banshee'+received+an+X+Window+System+error.This+probably+reflects+a+bug+in+the+program.The+error+was+'BadMatch+(invalid+parameter+attributes)'.
[17:31] <FloodBotK3> Peace-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:31] <Peace-> FloodBotK3: yes sir xD
[17:33] <JuJuBee> Peace-:  thanks  there is a workaround that seems to work
[18:11] <nlsthzn> hey, I want to use openVPN in Kubuntu (but don't want to touch anything Gnome related)... how do I go about doing that?
[18:18] <genii-around> !info network-manager-openvpn-kde
[18:23] <corinth> Hello room. I just installed Kubuntu, and the sound coming out of my speakers is static-y. Almost as if it were clipping...but it shouldn't be. Help?
[18:23] <Peace-> corinth: hi
[18:23] <Peace-> corinth: system 10.10 ?
[18:23] <corinth> Peace-: Hello there
[18:23] <corinth> 10.10 is the most recent, yes?
[18:23] <corinth> Yes, it's 10.10
[18:24] <Peace-> corinth: pulse is your problem probabilly
[18:24] <nlsthzn> genii-around: Thank you very much!
[18:24] <corinth> How do I fix that, Peace-?
[18:24] <genii-around> nlsthzn: You're welcome
[18:24] <Peace-> corinth:  search this on google nowardev pulse sound problem kubuntu 10.10
[18:24] <nlsthzn> genii-around: how you get your info... experience or google (cause I tried)
[18:24] <Peace-> corinth: should give you my blog
[18:25] <Peace-> corinth: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/09/18/audio-problem-with-kubuntu-10-10/
[18:25] <genii-around> nlsthzn: By: apt-cache search openvpn | grep kde
[18:26] <nlsthzn> genii-around: even more valuable... thank you times 1000
[18:34] <rtdos> how can i find out how much memory my system has?
[18:36] <BluesKaj> rtdos, free in the terminal
[18:37] <gerlosgm> rtdos: or you can use KInfoCenter or ksysguard, if installed
[18:37] <rtdos> thanks.
[18:50] <radi5__> hi, I need some help with Kontact. As far as I remember Kontact was continued after closing it wiht the X button
[18:50] <radi5__> after the last upgrade it is closed completly
[18:51] <radi5__> so new mails are not recogniced (of course)
[18:51] <radi5__> where can I configure the old behavior?
[18:51] <radi5__> Cold anybody help me please?
[18:56] <areichman> radi5__: go to Configure Kontact, Mail > Appearance, System Tray
[18:56] <areichman> and enable the system tray icon
[18:57] <areichman> set it to always show icon and it should do what you want
[18:57] <radi5__> perfect
[18:57] <radi5__> thanks a lot
[19:03] <areichman> welcome
[19:24] <FloridaGuy> how do i find out my ip adress
[19:25] <DarthFrog> FloridaGuy: use the "ifconfig" command.
[19:25] <FloridaGuy> DarthFrog: thanks
[19:27] <nathanael> hi
[19:27] <nathanael> how do i register a nick on irc?
[19:27] <the_O> hello
[19:27] <nathanael> before i start?
[19:28] <the_O> type /ns REGISTER <password> <email>
[19:28] <the_O> so does anyone here know of a good irc client for linux other then xchat
[19:30] <the_O> is anyone in here
[19:31] <DarthFrog> the_O: I like konversation.
[19:31] <areichman> the_O: I'm using quassel
[19:31] <DarthFrog> Others use quassel.
[19:31] <NathanaelG> konversation, over here
[19:32] <NathanaelG> but first time since very long
[19:32] <NathanaelG> anyone knows a graphical boot frontend for 10.10 and how to install it?
[19:33] <friese> hi
[19:33] <DarthFrog> !grub | NathanaelG
[19:33] <the_O> yeah I tried those but need script support
[19:34] <NathanaelG> hm?
[19:34] <NathanaelG> i use 10.10 so still grub?
[19:34] <the_O> I need to have two clients running with different scripts
[19:34] <NathanaelG> well I do think that it was after a windows installation, will try
[19:34] <DarthFrog> NathanaelG: No, grub2.
[19:35] <NathanaelG> now it starts with bright blue and kubuntu as ascii art
[19:35] <DarthFrog> !grub 2| NathanaelG
[19:35] <NathanaelG> ok
[19:37] <NathanaelG> but ehm
[19:38] <NathanaelG> but grub is working, only no graphic
[19:38] <woodzy> what is a good text mode file manager? (one that color codes files based on type / extension) ?
[19:39] <NathanaelG> ls ;-)
[19:39] <genii-around> Yup
[19:39] <NathanaelG> lol
[19:39] <NathanaelG> sry, was a joke
[19:40] <genii-around> woodzy: ls -l --color                  for instance :)
[19:40] <DarthFrog> NathanaelG: In /etc/grub.d/00header, there is a varialble GRUB_GFXMODE that you might want to play around with.
[19:40] <NathanaelG> i once used sthg like midnight commander @ woodzy .. like etherneties past
[19:41] <NathanaelG> thx
[19:41] <woodzy> i'll check it out.
[19:41] <NathanaelG> at tarthfrog
[19:41] <woodzy> ah, gnu mc
[19:43] <woodzy> wait. there is actually a menstrual calendar in the repositories? WOW! Maybe I can get my wife to use Linux after all!!! :-P
[19:43] <woodzy> ...sorry couldn't resist.
[19:44] <NathanaelG> hm
[19:45] <NathanaelG> what would i have to change there while having a screen with full hd resolution?
[19:54] <genii-around> NathanaelG: I have a screen which does 1920x1080 and put in /etc/default/grub GRUB_GFXMODE=1920x1080             it works fine
[19:54] <NathanaelG> thx
[19:54] <NathanaelG> propritary nvidia drivers no prob?
[19:54] <genii-around> NathanaelG: You have to do the update-grub
[19:55] <NathanaelG> ok so step one would be:
[19:56] <genii-around> work, back soon
[19:57] <genii-around> NathanaelG: Before the nvidia drivers broke it worked fine for me then, now that I'm temporarily on the nouveau drivers it also works fine
[19:59] <genii-around> NathanaelG: eg: echo "GRUB_GFXMODE=1920x1080" | sudo tee -a /etc/default/grub && sudo update-grub
[20:01] <NathanaelG> ok
[20:01] <NathanaelG> press thumbs, booting through
[20:01] <Loresan> hi hi... is Peace- online by any chance?
[20:03] <Peace-> Loresan: ?
[20:03] <Loresan> hi Peace- sorry to disturb you but could you send me that link again about setting dolphin up and the programs list?
[20:04] <Peace-> Loresan: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/what-you-should-want-to-do-on-kubuntu-10-04/
[20:04] <NathanaelG> hi again
[20:04] <Peace-> Loresan: save the link...
[20:04] <Peace-> Loresan: there are *a lots* of stuff in my blog
[20:04] <NathanaelG> My grub splash is still a bright blue and kubuntu 10.10 in Ascii
[20:05] <NathanaelG> the five dots are also in ascii
[20:05] <NathanaelG> only thing that improved now is that the selection screen for my os's is in full hd
[20:05] <NathanaelG> Extreme eye-candy, ascii on blacck in full hd!!!
[20:05] <NathanaelG> ;-)
[20:06] <Loresan> thank you very much Peace
[20:06] <Loresan> brb
[20:06] <Peace-> Loresan: kindom?
[20:06] <Peace-> Loresan: i mean uk
[20:06] <NathanaelG> @
[20:06] <Loresan> yes
[20:06] <NathanaelG> genii-around: well i don't think i can co to nouveau
[20:07] <NathanaelG> I m playing starcraft2 over crossover-office
[20:07] <NathanaelG> or is nouveau good enough for that?
[20:07] <Peace-> Loresan: well i am not an english guy so...don't die reading the blog (grammar)
[20:07] <Loresan> i'm sure i will be fine :)
[20:08] <genii-around> NathanaelG: I don't know. I don't do anything that would really stress-test it. But my compositing works great in regular usage
[20:08] <NathanaelG> hm
[20:08] <NathanaelG> so how to change back? just disabling the proprietary driver, genii-around
[20:08] <NathanaelG> ?
[20:09]  * Peace- rebooting to lucid
[20:09] <jschall> i can't see the samba shares on my desktop from my netbook... dolphin can't find anything.
[20:10] <genii-around> NathanaelG: I usually uninstall or reinstall the nvidia-current when I need to toggle between nouveau and nvidia
[20:11] <genii-around> NathanaelG: I should note I'm currently using 11.04 where nvidia is horribly broken though
[20:12] <NathanaelG> hm
[20:12] <NathanaelG> 11.04 is due for end of month, not?
[20:13] <genii-around> NathanaelG: It's usually the very last day of the month it is named for
[20:13] <genii-around> So likely April 30
[20:13] <genii-around> Numbered after, rather, not named after :)
[20:14] <NathanaelG> oh
[20:14] <kusa> Hi all
[20:14] <NathanaelG> thx, didnt know that
[20:15] <NathanaelG> booting through
[20:19] <NathanaelG> well
[20:19] <NathanaelG> it worked, genii-around
[20:19] <NathanaelG> htx a lot
[20:19] <genii-around> NathanaelG: You're welcome
[20:19] <NathanaelG> is there a possibility for a kubuntu-skinned os selection screen as well?
[20:20] <genii-around> Possibly, but i haven't looked into that much
[20:20] <NathanaelG> btw, sry for getting on your nerves
[20:20] <NathanaelG> thx
[20:20] <NathanaelG> well, it works for what i want now
[20:20] <NathanaelG> you all on kde 4.6?
[20:20] <genii-around> NathanaelG: I find the fonts in cli at that res to be eye-wrenching though
[20:21] <NathanaelG> lol, no prob for me
[20:21] <NathanaelG> 1 know i need the first or the last
[20:22] <NathanaelG> will have to suppress the messages for the embedded partitions sometime
[20:22] <NathanaelG> but that s easy
[21:12] <NathanaelG> hi all
[21:12] <NathanaelG> hi genii-around
[21:12] <NathanaelG> had to switch back to proprietary driver, as many effects like window stack didn't work
[21:12] <NathanaelG> so now i have a text boot again
[21:13] <NathanaelG> any hints on how to get the graphical bootsplash back?
[21:13] <NathanaelG> with the nvidia drivers?
[21:17] <genii-around> NathanaelG: Apologies, but my work is too busy right now for me to help
[21:21] <NathanaelG> genii-around:  no probs, thx anyway, cu later
[21:21] <NathanaelG> and off
[21:40] <mandla> Hey guys, where can i find student data sample spreadsheet files, im working on an Academic Records Management System, so i need to test it with sample data.
[21:42] <mandla> Hello?
[21:48] <Snowhog> mandla: Do you have a question? Just ask it.
[21:48] <kurumin> oi
[21:48] <mandla> Snowhog: Hey guys, where can i find student data sample spreadsheet files, im working on an Academic Records Management System, so i need to test it with sample data
[21:49] <Snowhog> mandla: What Kubuntu application are you using?
[21:50] <mandla> Snowhog: Im using a localhost server so i need sample data to test the module of the System that i recently completed.
[21:51] <Snowhog> mandla: That still doesn't answer the question: What application (software) are you using/running?
[21:52] <mandla> Snowhog: What exactly do yo mean? I need a spreadsheet file with student records. openOffice calc
[21:53] <genii-around> mandla: That is not a Kubuntu support issue :)
[21:53] <Snowhog> mandla: OpenOffice Calc. That's the answer to the question.
[21:53] <mandla> genii-around: I know, i just thought you might know smwhere i can download the file.
[21:54] <genii-around> eg: Your openOffice Calc is not experiencing a problem, you just need some test database to look at
[21:54] <genii-around> mandla: Is it http://www.vastech.co.ug/products/academic-registrar-information-management-systems-arims that is the ARMS thing you are using? Just curious
[21:56] <mandla> genii-around: Yah something like that but better.
[21:57] <genii-around> mandla: Because I would ask the guys who make your version to point you at some test data, etc
[21:58] <BluesKaj> how does one alias one's password in ~/.bashrc,  so that it works after 'password for user : ' prompt in the cli ?
[21:58] <mandla> genii-around: Thats exactly what i need. I just want a spreadsheet file with students details.
[22:00] <mandla> genii-around: There should be sample data smwhere on the net. I really need it. Friday um presenting this system.
[22:11] <daltin> hello
[22:12] <Snowhog> daltin: Please just ask your question.
[22:24] <SDemonUA> Вива кубунтеры!!! Ж)
[22:24] <BluesKaj> !ru
[22:25] <SDemonUA> Viva kubunters!
[23:57] <shane4ubuntu> ok, I need some help, Chromium completely locked up, killall chromium && killall chromium-browser does nothing, launching firefox via commnadline also does nothing
[23:57] <shane4ubuntu> no errors, nothing
[23:58] <shane4ubuntu> wow, nobody around?


[19:14] <nhandler> Who has admin access to the Fridge calendar?
[19:14] <tyche_> I do.
[19:33] <joey> nhandler: everyone on the fridge team is a super editor
[19:33] <joey> nhandler: command line would be only newz200
[19:35] <tyche_> joey: His problem is actually with the Google calendar.  He needs to have an entry changed, and is locked out of making global changes.  The problem is when someone lists Guests, and doesn't mark it to be editable by guests.
[19:35] <tyche_> But thanks for responding, anyway.
[19:38] <joey> oh ok, cool. thanks tyche_
[19:38] <tyche_> NP
[19:38] <joey> I'm so glad we made the team merge (fridge, news, etc)
[19:38] <tyche_> And I see that I must have gone through a net split.  My  nick has an underscore after it.  Hee hee
[19:38] <joey> good guys like you tyche_ helping out on the fridge :-)
[19:39] <tyche> Hey, we do what we can
[19:40] <tyche> (and with the UWN, that usually means EVERYTHING.  Hee hee)
[19:40] <joey> :-)
[19:41] <joey> tyche: I wonder..... should we do something fun in UWN regarding the LP event?
[19:41] <tyche> BTW, joey, you haven't heard any word on the nominations for CC, have you?
[19:41] <joey> I know there are noms but not who they are and when they close
[19:42] <tyche> What LP event?  And if you get someone to write it up I'm sure we could add it.  We usually DO add LPs
[19:42] <tyche> It's just that usually the information is so brief that we can't even summarize it.
[19:42] <joey> tyche: I mean the fact that LP was released as Open Source yesterday
[19:42] <tyche> So give me ideas, and we can work on it.
[19:43] <tyche> I'm ALL FOR introducing a bit of fun into the UWN
[19:43] <joey> I think the biggest piece is not so much that it went AGPL but what it means to the community
[19:43] <joey> Just like ubuntu everyone can now improve the TOOL that creates Ubuntu
[19:44] <joey> The right person to interview is Karl (he's got a great knack for this stuff) but he's at OSCON this week
[19:44] <tyche> AH!  THAT!!!  Yea, I can see where putting something out would be good.  And if you can think of a way to make it fun, even better.
[19:44] <joey> Well...
[19:44] <joey> Matt Revell is back tomorrow...
[19:44] <joey> we could try to get a special UWN  Podcast going for Friday
[19:45] <tyche> OK.  Do you need it transcribed, too?
[19:45] <joey> We probably should at some point, like we did with the UWN special we did a few months ago.
[19:45] <joey> I don't think I can round up interesting folks this quick (like sabdfl)
[19:46] <joey> but we might be able to get kfogel from LP and mdz from Ubuntu
[19:46] <tyche> Yea, the "Old One Hundredth" worked pretty good.  OK, I'd need the audio sometime ahead, so I have time to transcribe it.
[19:46]  * joey checks to see if mdz is available
[19:47] <nhandler> tyche: Daniel (the one handling the CC stuff) is on vacation. I wouldn't expect much until he gets back on the 10th
[19:47] <tyche> (Old One Hundredth is a play on the tune to the Doxology in the United Methodist Church)
[19:47] <joey> We could do a short one. I don't need to be there... not my show you know... but Matt could do the recording and send over the sound files
[19:47] <joey> and then we'd need at least one of the UWN editors to work with Matt to co-host
[19:47] <tyche> That would help.  Do you need it introduced in some way, or just put it in cold?
[19:48] <joey> we can do it cold with just a quick pre-record chat
[19:48] <joey> it would help to have the folks from UWN participating to have a list of questions before hand...
[19:48] <tyche> I think I could probably get Skype going on this machine.  It was before.
[19:48] <joey> would give the Karl and mdz some time to formulate replies
[19:49] <joey> tyche: my memory is bad<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is the right list right?
[19:49] <joey> for internal discussions?
[19:50] <nhandler> Sounds right joey
[19:50] <tyche> Yep.  Though we're also in ubuntu-news@ , as well as being in both channels (well, at least *I* am)
[19:59] <joey> tyche: ok, email away
[20:00] <tyche> KK.  And skype is set up.


[08:12] <bambee> morning
[08:37] <Quintasan> morning
[09:02] <agateau> hey, I just noticed kdevelop fails to start on oneiric if kate is not installed. I guess there is a missing dependency on katepart. Is this a known problem?
[09:11] <jussi> apachelogger: ping!!
[09:48] <yofel> agateau: yes it is, although it seems current katepart isn't quite enough either without kate, haven't debugged it enough yet
[09:48] <agateau> yofel: ok, good to know you are on it
[10:35] <ryanakca> I don't have access to an oneiric box at the moment, would someone be willing to merge/sync bangarang 2.0.1-1 from Debian unstable?
[10:52] <jussi> where is apachelogger!!!? :(
[10:54] <Quintasan> durrrr
[10:55] <Quintasan> cheapest accomodation in Berlin looks promising, but when you convert euros to zloty then you go DURRRRRRRRRR
[11:03] <jussi> Quintasan: awww
[11:03] <Quintasan> When you need money, you don't have, when you don't really need it you have a fuckton of it
[11:05] <nigelb> Quintasan: are you headed to DS?
[11:05] <nigelb> jussi: ^
[11:05] <jussi> no
[11:05] <Quintasan> nigelb: looking at accomodation
[11:05] <Quintasan> derpy prices are derpy
[11:05]  * jussi is not going to any conferences or summits anymore this year
[11:05] <nigelb> jussi: UDS?
[11:05] <jussi> nigelb: no
[11:05] <nigelb> jussi: oh :(
[11:06] <nigelb> jussi: work? family?
[11:06] <jussi> nigelb: I have a heavily pregnant wife ;)
[11:06] <nigelb> jussi: Congrats :)
[11:06] <jussi> nigelb: you are _so_ behind the times
[11:06] <nigelb> jussi: Yeah :(
[11:06] <nigelb> I ended up missing thsi channel on my auto-join list.
[11:07] <nigelb> Besides, we tend to talk when you want to test voice calls :P
[11:07] <jussi> lol
[11:10] <ScottK> Nightrose: Good luck finding someone reasonable to talk to about the Systemsetting thing.
[11:10] <Nightrose> ScottK: heh thx - let's see who pops up...
[12:06] <yofel> agateau: the problem seems to have been that the katepart.desktop file got left in kate, should work once the 4.7 packages are up
[12:06] <agateau> yofel: great, thanks!
[12:10] <ScottK> didrocks: I have a proposal I'd like to discuss with you when you have a moment.
[12:10] <didrocks> ScottK: sure, is in 15 minutes ok?
[12:10] <ScottK> Yes
[13:13] <didrocks> ScottK: sorry for the delay, are you available now?
[14:47] <shadeslayer> so, i have this patch against kstars right now : http://cl.ly/40342U3Y2c3y2Z3R1L2L
[14:49] <shadeslayer> could someone review it ^^
[14:49] <shadeslayer> before i send it off to upstream
[14:58] <Riddell> packaging guide KDE chapter for review https://code.launchpad.net/~jr/ubuntu-packaging-guide/kde/+merge/69097
[15:03] <shadeslayer> Riddell: "If they have not check if" -> "If they don't, check if"  ... or something like that
[15:04] <Riddell> done
[15:05] <shadeslayer> Riddell: line 84, missing a 'to' at the end
[15:05] <shadeslayer> or rather 'need to be reuploaded'
[15:05] <Riddell> reads ok to me
[15:06] <Riddell> but ok, changed
[15:07] <shadeslayer> really up to your discretion, but looks fine apart from that :D
[15:09] <debfx> Riddell: "dh --with=kde" should be "dh $@ --with=kde"
[15:09] <Riddell> oh aye, fixed
[15:11] <debfx> and my guess is that maybe 1/10 of our patches comply with that patching policy ;)
[15:21] <Riddell> oh I don't think so, if you discount the ones from Debian
[15:28] <ScottK> didrocks: I'm back.
[15:28] <didrocks> ScottK: wb :)
[15:29] <ScottK> didrocks: I'm working on Kubuntu CD size and currently we are shipping gtk2 and gtk3 due to appmenu.  See http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/kubuntu.oneiric/desktop
[15:30] <didrocks> ScottK: argh, indeed… hum, why do you ship appmenu btw?
[15:30] <ScottK> We are shipping appmenu-gkt/3 so that it will just work for gtk apps that users install.
[15:30] <didrocks> right, but you don't ship the indicator by default to strip the menu, isn't it?
[15:30] <ScottK> Actually I think it would be good for Ubuntu desktop to do the same for the Qt appmenu
[15:30] <ScottK> We do for netbooks
[15:31] <didrocks> ah ok, makes sense then
[15:31] <ScottK> What I'd like to do though is have those packages drop their dependency on gtk/gtk3.
[15:31] <didrocks> hum, I think we ship qt appmenu, I never checked, but I did it for sni-qt
[15:31] <ScottK> OK
[15:31] <ScottK> I did this recently for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk2-engines-oxygen/
[15:32] <ScottK> The reason why I think it's reasonable is that appmenu won't ever do anything if some other application that uses gtk/gtk3 doesn't get installed and pull it in that way.
[15:32] <ScottK> My goal is to get one or both of gtk2/3 off our CD.
[15:34] <didrocks> ScottK: I think it's reasonable to assume that, we can still put it as suggest, but avoiding having it brough by shibs totally makes sense
[15:34] <ScottK> Yes.
[15:34] <didrocks> let me talk with ken, one sec
[15:34] <ScottK> Thanks.
[15:35] <ScottK> didrocks: I just checked and you're right, you do have dbusmenu-qt seeded for ubuntu-desktop.
[15:36] <didrocks> ScottK: but we don't have your issue as we now have Qt by default :-)
[15:36] <ScottK> Right.
[15:37] <ScottK> If you didn't, then I would do the same for dbusmenu-qt.
[15:37] <ScottK> err appmenu-qt
[15:38] <didrocks> ScottK: maybe that can be useful for other flavors? let's imagine xubuntu, if they are interested some day?
[15:38] <ScottK> Good point.
[15:38] <didrocks> ok, ken is ok, I'll do it :)
[15:39] <ScottK> I'll do appmenu-qt.
[15:39] <ScottK> Thanks.
[15:39] <didrocks> excellent, thanks!
[15:50] <didrocks> ok, appmenu-gtk2/3 done, doing the same with dbusmenu now
[15:53] <jussi> sigh... still no apachelogger? :(
[15:55] <shadeslayer> jussi: ssup :)
[15:55] <jussi> shadeslayer: hi, I need an apachelogger!!!
[15:55] <jussi> *grumble*
[15:55]  * shadeslayer fetches his lasso
[16:02] <ScottK> appmenu-qt done.
[16:03] <ScottK> For a moment there I thought shadeslayer said he was going to fetch a mango lassi.
[16:03] <shadeslayer> unfourtunately the season of mangoes is long gone :(
[16:06] <didrocks> peaches are nice though, and it's the season! :-)
[16:30] <muntiKubu> noticed the back button is gone in kmenu>applications?
[16:30] <muntiKubu> is this a feature?
[16:31] <muntiKubu> for 4.7?
[16:33] <yofel> feature afaik
[16:34] <muntiKubu> it's bad for me if you are just browsing.
[16:34] <yofel> there's a dolphin like navigation bar at the top now
[16:34] <yofel> you can go back there
[16:35] <muntiKubu> oh.. didn't see that.. thanks
[16:35] <jussi> <3 lancelot ;)
[16:35] <yofel> <3 krunner ;)
[16:37] <muntiKubu> kinda small fonts and looks greyed out to me :(
[16:37] <yofel> grey here too, but I'm using product as plasma theme which is dark
[16:37] <yofel> *produkt
[16:37] <muntiKubu> been used to that 'rev-arrow' on the left sidebar..hehe
[16:38] <apachelogger> jussi: oggy oggy oggy
[16:38] <yofel> I only know it since someone else mentioned it. I don't use kickoff enough ^^
[16:40] <muntiKubu> am I missing something nice other than kmenu?
[16:42] <muntiKubu> is there 'kubuntu exclusive' launcher to set it apart from other kde-distro?
[16:43] <apachelogger> sure, ours is not broken by patches :P
[16:43] <yofel> heh, there's the kubuntu logo in kickoff, but that should be all
[16:44] <debfx> we also have kubuntu_19_always_show_kickoff_subtext.diff and kubuntu_93_fix_username_icon_alignment.diff
[16:51] <apachelogger> debfx: latter actually is a fix, which reminds me
[16:51] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: why is that not upstreamed exactly?
[16:51] <apachelogger> I know you had a review request for it at some point
[16:52] <yofel> apachelogger: was looking - the review got forgotten https://svn.reviewboard.kde.org/r/870/
[16:52] <shadeslayer> ugh svn
[16:53] <yofel> shadeslayer: that's 2 years old
[16:56] <apachelogger> arent we supposed to do patch reviews :P
[17:02] <yofel> talking about misalignment, the search bar is totally misaligned here (looks so at least) http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/koff.png
[17:03] <apachelogger> must be a sizepolicy issue
[17:52] <mgraesslin> apachelogger: ping
[17:52] <mgraesslin> apachelogger: consider I could create a constant stream of QImages - how difficult would it be to create a video out of it?
[17:56] <apachelogger> mgraesslin: qpainter.drawImage(qimg)
[17:56] <apachelogger> mgraesslin: why qimage though?
[17:57] <mgraesslin> because I have no idea about multimedia :-P
[17:57] <mgraesslin> what I can get is a GL Texture and I want to get a video out of it
[17:57] <apachelogger> gltexture owns qimage any time
[17:58] <mgraesslin> and how do I convert a stream of textures into a video?
[17:58] <apachelogger> the thing is, particularly with qtquick2 and the qt scene graph one would want a gltexture rather than a qimage
[17:58] <apachelogger> mgraesslin: as in encoding to file?
[17:58] <mgraesslin> yes
[17:59] <apachelogger> mgraesslin: depends on the library you use for encoding
[17:59] <mgraesslin> ok, what options do I have there?
[18:00] <apachelogger> gstreamer and ffmpeg would be the most obvious choices
[18:00] <mgraesslin> and I can feed them a GL texture?
[18:00] <apachelogger> no idea how you'd do that with ffmpeg but with gst you'd have to implement a pipeline source, to feed the texture into the pipeline
[18:01] <apachelogger> mgraesslin: gstreamer you can, it will try to negotiate a pipeline which can use your input data most efficiently
[18:02] <mgraesslin> ok, consider I will present you a stub at desktop summit, will you do the multimedia parts to get a screencast effect in kwin?
[18:03] <apachelogger> guess so
[18:03] <apachelogger> that said, phonon might take care of the encoding as we have encoding functionality on the todo
[18:03] <apachelogger> should be sufficient for what is necessary for screencasts
[18:07] <mgraesslin> ok, got to go
[18:26]  * afiestas just applied to UDS orlando, hope to see you there :)
[18:27] <afiestas> if not, I will have to follow via irc/streaming :p
[18:28] <yofel> hm, when's the deadline for applying?
[18:29] <nigelb> yofel: aug 15th I think
[18:29]  * nigelb hasn't decided whether to apply or not yet.
[18:33] <yofel> hm, August 24th, at least some time left...
[19:05] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ping
[20:13] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Y U NO PONG?
[21:11] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: for always show subtext at least, aseigo unilaterally rejected it even though it had seele's backing.
[21:11] <JontheEchidna> probably some old mail thread on plasma-devel about that
[21:12] <JontheEchidna> both patches are seele-approved-but-not-upstreamed-due-to-philosophical-issues, I think
[21:13] <JontheEchidna> well, maybe just nitpickiness on the alignment one
[21:21]  * ScottK wonders what posseses Google+ to think Miguel de Icaza and I should be sharing with each other?
[21:30] <nigelb> ScottK: lol
[22:52] <DarkwingDuck> Yes, I'm still alive. :P
[22:53] <negaduck> Not for long... Duck
[22:53] <negaduck> Lets Get Dangerous
[22:53] <DarkwingDuck> LOL
[22:55] <DarkwingDuck> The worse part of being unemployed is having to decide what bills to pay and what ones to default on.
[23:02] <negaduck> hi bigbrovar
[23:02] <negaduck> DarkwingDuck: can you control the bills?
[23:02] <bigbrovar> negaduck: hi
[23:03] <DarkwingDuck> I don't have money to pay for all of them each month.
[23:03] <DarkwingDuck> So, my 3 kids come first.
[23:09] <negaduck> Well those are properly earned bills :)
[23:10] <negaduck> Just saying some things that may be nice stuff like Television diversity could be dispensed with ?


[01:41] <n-iCe> 's back
[02:58] <Capprentice> HI! Im getting this error on Lubuntu 15.10: e1000e 0000:00:19.0 enp0s25: Reset adapter unexpectedly [  197.382071] e1000e: enp0s25 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: None
[02:58] <Capprentice> Is there any way to fix it?
[02:59] <Capprentice> I have enabled ip forwarding in it as Im currenlty deployed it as the HTTP cache for my Network.
[03:00] <Capprentice> If you need any further info pls ask.
[06:04] <Caerus> hello, maybe someone can point me in the right direcction. Is there any form of throtlewatch for cpu in lubuntu/ubuntu?
[06:05] <Caerus> I have an old pentium m laptop with lubuntu that i mostly use for reading/programming but when i sometimes watch instructional videos the temps go all the way to 71-72 celsius.
[06:08] <hateball> Caerus: Well, it's possible to throttle yes... but if watching videos uses more CPU then that is for a reason
[06:08] <hateball> So you'd most likely end up with choppy/unusable videos
[06:08] <emersont1> hi
[06:09] <Caerus> videos look fine on lower resos but they stutter on hd so i reckon it is throttling, i just wanna be sure at what temp
[06:09] <emersont1> why would my lubuntu just hang on the blue booting up screen, but is fine in recovery mode
[06:09] <hateball> !info cpufrequtils
[06:09] <hateball> Caerus: You can use that ^
[06:10] <emersont1> !info lightdm
[06:10] <emersont1> !info ssdm
[06:10] <Caerus> thank you hateball, appreciate it.
[06:10] <emersont1> !info sddm
[06:12] <hateball> Caerus: so what you want to do is set the scaling governor to powersave, to run at lowest possible speed
[06:13] <hateball> Caerus: you can also do it manually with something like: echo powersave |sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[06:14] <Caerus> hateball, i'll try that, if it doesn't work all to well i'll just watch videos on the desktop pc, think im pushing the edge on this hardware
[06:15] <emersont1> why would my lubuntu just hang on the blue booting up screen with no sign of moving on, but is fine in recovery mode
[06:15] <Caerus> still tho, this lxde on lubuntu really brought this beaten up laptop back to usefulness :D
[06:16] <Caerus> emersont1, were you messing with modprobe before that started happening?
[06:16] <hateball> emersont1: can you edit grub options and remove "quiet splash" so you can see where it hangs?
[06:17] <emersont1> okay, i can bet my bottom dollar where it is though, i thought a reinstall would fix it
[06:18] <emersont1> i bet it's an fsck thing
[06:24] <Caerus> try running it on recovery mode?
[11:55] <n-iCe> hi
[22:30] <Guest02> Lubuntu 14.04.4 My skype freeze and when i shut it down stop / kill it will not run anymore. It is allways shut down after i start it. What can be wrong ?
[22:30] <n-iCe> no idea
[22:30] <n-iCe> works fine here.
[22:30] <n-iCe> purge files
[22:30] <n-iCe> reinstall
[22:30] <n-iCe> and try again
[22:30] <wxl> and don't install from the repos, but from the skype site itself
[22:31] <Guest02> How can i remove skype ? It is installed from canocial.
[22:31] <n-iCe> sudo apt-get remove skype ?
[22:38] <Guest02> Is i have to use that coomand only or can i remove it in synaptic where i install it ?
[22:39] <n-iCe> where ever you want
[22:39] <n-iCe> is the same
[22:39] <Guest02> ok
[22:39] <n-iCe> just uninstall it
[22:41] <Guest02> What is the diference between mark fro removal and mar for complete removal ?
[22:46] <n-iCe> synaptics?
[22:46] <ianorlin> n-iCe, synaptic package manager
[22:46] <n-iCe> completely remove will remove configuration files in /etc directory, but never touch personal configuration files in your home folder, that can only be removed by hand.
[22:46] <ianorlin> not synaptics that is for touchpads
[22:46] <n-iCe> I know.
[22:46] <n-iCe> :p
[22:46] <n-iCe> Complete removal is equivalent to sudo apt-get remove --purge application
[22:47] <n-iCe> Complete removal is equivalent to sudo apt-get remove --purge application
[22:47] <n-iCe> so I would use it
[22:47] <Guest02> Why is it better to install from the skype site instead of synaptic ?
[22:48] <n-iCe> whaat?
[22:48] <n-iCe> Guest02: dude, uninstall the synaptic package
[22:48] <n-iCe> and install from the site
[22:48] <n-iCe> download the .deb and install it from there
[22:48] <n-iCe> Guest02: do you know how to open a terminal?
[22:49] <Guest02> Yes but i rare use terminal.
[22:49] <n-iCe> ok open it
[22:49] <n-iCe> sudo apt-get remove --purge skype
[22:49] <n-iCe> and type Y when asked to remove all.
[22:50] <n-iCe> once you did it download this: http://get.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-64
[22:50] <n-iCe> save it, once downloaded, go in the terminal to /home/youruser/Downloads
[22:50] <n-iCe> and write: sudo dpkg -i skype-ubuntu-precise_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[22:50] <n-iCe> and that's all.
[22:51] <Guest02> Will try it soon. Just removed the skype folder manually.
[22:51] <n-iCe> Guest02: apt-get remove is better
[22:51] <n-iCe> just type what I told
[22:51] <Guest02> I removed in synaptic first then the folder it was still there.
[22:51] <Guest02> I think it give the same coomands.
[22:52] <Guest02> Is the skype beta ?
[22:52] <Guest02> A new skype then.
[22:53] <n-iCe> download and install
[22:54] <Guest02> Why a beta is it a later version then <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[22:54] <n-iCe> what?
[22:54] <n-iCe> http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-computer/ use the one you want
[22:54] <n-iCe> I'm telling you how to make things work, and you are not listening.
[22:54] <n-iCe> I know it works, because I use it.
[23:00] <Guest02> There is several versions. I dont know what file i shud use.
[23:00] <n-iCe> the one I told you...?
[23:02] <Guest02> there is for ubuntu 12 ubuntu 10, debian fedora dynamic opensuse..  it must be ubuntu but there is 2.
[23:02] <Guest02> I have not muc idea.. I use synaptic mostly.
[23:03] <Guest02> And i dont know how to run them in terminal.
[23:04] <n-iCe> scroll up, read me.
[23:04] <n-iCe> and do what I say.
[23:04] <n-iCe> Don't know what you can't do If I told step by step what to do.
[23:05] <wxl> Guest02: if you get a .deb file from Skype, you can just double click it. gdebi will take care of it for you.
[23:06] <Guest02> I understand.
[23:06] <Guest02> Is this way any betetr then synaptic ? Is not the result the same ?
[23:07] <wxl> they're two different ways of installing software using underlying tools but through a gui
[23:15] <Guest02> test
[23:15] <Guest02> .        /home/youruser/Downloads    no such file or directory
[23:18] <Guest02> I set in my user but it not find this directory.
[23:21] <n-iCe> what's your user
[23:22] <Guest02> my name
[23:22] <Guest02> but it is strange the skype is still here from before.
[23:22] <n-iCe> copy and paste: sudo apt-get remove --purge skype
[23:23] <Guest02> I just use that command.
[23:23] <n-iCe> and what does it say
[23:24] <Guest02> It runs and then it tell me to use autoremove.
[23:25] <n-iCe> and you clicked y?
[23:25] <n-iCe> Now, use: sudo apt-get autoremove
[23:29] <Guest02> i dont know. i removed skype bin in synaptic instead. i think it was it.
[23:46] <Guest02> stupid things. i reinstall skype now and it still shut downs.
[23:47] <Unit193> If you run it from a terminal, does it say what's wrong?
[23:47] <Guest02> I cud not find the directory.
[23:48] <n-iCe> you clearly did not do what I say
[23:49] <Unit193> That also has nothing to do with anything I said, the directory is unimportant.
[23:49] <Guest02> I know. but when i dont find the directory   /home/youruser/Downloads   i can not do much.
[23:49] <n-iCe> use logic
[23:49] <Guest02> i downloaded skype.
[23:50] <n-iCe> I asked your username and you never replied to me.
[23:50] <Guest02> I dont want to give my name in here.
[23:50] <Unit193> n-iCe: cd ~/Downloads/ would work fine.
[23:50] <n-iCe> Unit193: better
[23:50] <wxl> dont' forget we can always tree some directory :)
[23:51] <wxl> `tree ~ | pastebinit` shoudl track down said file
[23:51] <wxl> or for that mattter `find ~ -iname *.deb`
[23:57] <Guest02> no such file or directory


[10:19] <rmg51> Morning
[12:54] <icey> howdy
[13:07] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, critters and everything else
[14:46] <lazyPower> o/ mornin
[15:14] <ChinnoBunny> morning
[15:15] <ChinnoDog> Oops. I had turned into a bunny.
[15:21] <lazyPower> ChinnoDog - massive anthromorph going on there eh? :)
[16:32] <ChinnoDog> it happens