[00:15] <awillson> What I search under in the wiki if I want to install an updated version of a library manually? Ideally I want to see if this fixes and issue I have but don't wish to have it not tracked through Muon.
[00:59] <vitimiti> o/
[01:45] <Calavera> I have a question.
[01:52] <TheLordOfTime> so ask it?
[01:56] <Dutchman> Ask what?
[01:57] <unheedingQ> hello my little kubuntus!
[01:58] <TheLordOfTime> Dutchman, someone before you joined.
[01:58] <TheLordOfTime> Calavera, if you have a question, just ask the question.
[02:07] <Calavera> Sory
[02:07] <Calavera> I was away for a minute.
[02:08] <Calavera> Anyways... I'm using Firefox, and I can't seem to be able to pate the url of an image and have it upload the image directly from the internet.
[02:08] <Calavera> paste
[02:09] <TheLordOfTime> "upload the image directly from the internet"
[02:09] <TheLordOfTime> sounds like a firefox issue, not a Kubuntu issue.
[02:10] <Calavera> I'm thinking that.
[02:10] <Calavera> It's just that it worked fine in Windows.
[02:12] <Dutchman> Can you see the image in Firefox when you go to the URL?
[02:12] <Calavera> Yes.
[02:12] <Dutchman> Have you tried to right-click on it and save the image that way?
[02:13] <Calavera> Yes, everything works the way it should.
[02:13] <Calavera> It's just that I can't upload it directly from the site's server.  Are you trying to send it somewhere, or download it?
[02:14] <Calavera> Yes, I'm trying to post it to a certain image board.
[02:16] <Dutchman> Ahh... not sure of how that works in Firefox, I don't use it myself. It may be a setting, or might need a plug-in. Any Firefox users out here who could help?
[02:20] <Dutchman> Did a quick search, Calavera, check this link: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CEEQFjAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Faddons.mozilla.org%2Fen-us%2Ffirefox%2Faddon%2Frehost-image%2F&ei=rozKUN3nC8rjiwKWs4CADA&usg=AFQjCNG4yMSyjcrsVEJ2r8Hr5NICAM-sDg&sig2=EJHqF9qAqoGnhzX0U59rfA&bvm=bv.1355325884,d.cGE
[02:21] <Calavera> Thank you for your help. I've looked everywhere for a solution, but I didn't know enough to get the results that I wanted. I'll check it out.
[02:22] <Calavera> Thank you so much.
[02:22] <Dutchman> It seems Firefox needs pluging to do what you need. Probably installed by default in Windows, that's why it worked for you there.
[02:22] <Dutchman> You're welcome ;-)
[02:22] <Calavera> You are the man.
[03:08] <pete__> can you help
[03:09] <pete__> my cat walked on my laptop keyboard
[03:09] <pete__> and set someinn that kae
[03:09] <pete__> makes the scream bigger than my moitor
[03:10] <pete__> like some sort of universal zoom
[03:10] <pete__> how do i fix this
[03:27] <Dutchman> pete_ try pressing meta+0 (the "Windows" key plus the zero), that should reset the screen size.
[03:29] <thiebaude> how do i disable start up sounds on kubuntu 12.10?
[03:38] <Dutchman> thiebaude, go to System Settings > Application and System Notifications. On the first section, press the drop-down that says "Event Source".
[03:38] <thiebaude> Dutchman, thanks man:)
[03:39] <Dutchman> Choose the one for "KDE Workspace" and turn off the login sound.
[03:39] <Dutchman> You're welcome ;-)
[03:39] <thiebaude> ok
[03:47] <Guest46827> with software as good as this microsofts days are numbered
[06:41] <Crell> Evening folks.  I'm trying to setup mtp support on my 12.04 install.  Are there packages I need for that beyond mtp-tools and libmtp9?
[06:44] <Crell> And once those are installed, do I need to restart KDE for it to be able to pick up an mtp device?  (Like my phone.)
[06:47] <Guest61489> hello
[06:48] <Guest61489> how i can return plasma widget ''show desktop ''
[10:31] <radeon5830> hello
[10:32] <radeon5830> anyone up during this hour?
[11:13] <_-LC-_> Hello! Anyone actually alive in here? :-)
[11:13] <thelionroars> just us zombies
[11:14] <thelionroars> oh *cough*
[11:14] <thelionroars> braaaaaaiiiinnnns
[11:14] <_-LC-_> I went from Gnome (Ubuntu 11.04) to Kubuntu 12.04. I found it's quite BETA. Can I give you a few examples?
[11:15] <thelionroars> why not
[11:15] <_-LC-_> The default proggy for opening archieves (Ark) - just click on a RAR archieve: *puff*
[11:15] <thelionroars> puff?
[11:16] <_-LC-_> "The KDE crash handler..."
[11:16] <_-LC-_> (seg fault)
[11:17] <_-LC-_> Want some more?
[11:17] <thelionroars> I suppose
[11:17] <navlelo> does it happen with all rar archives?
[11:17] <_-LC-_> The QuickLaunch widget only works with 1 row.
[11:18] <_-LC-_> Yes, as far as I can tell it does.
[11:18] <_-LC-_> I got 5 rows. If I move a launcher to the end: *puff*   If I drop a launcher from the menu to the QuickLauncher: *puff*
[11:19] <_-LC-_> Works fine with 1 row though.
[11:19] <Radeon9200SE> hello!
[11:19] <_-LC-_> So if I want to add or reorder a launcher I have to set it back to 1 row and then back to 5 rows again...
[11:20] <Radeon9200SE> i just switched from windows
[11:20] <Radeon9200SE> having a hard time adjusting to linux
[11:20] <_-LC-_> Radeon: Did you set it to double-click?
[11:20] <_-LC-_> (like Windows)
[11:21] <Radeon9200SE> nopes
[11:21] <_-LC-_> Radeon: Because you want it that way, or because you didn't know?
[11:21] <Radeon9200SE> I didn't know.
[11:22] <Radeon9200SE> I just installed kubuntu a few hours ago.
[11:22] <_-LC-_> Radeon: Open the menu - settings->settings
[11:22] <Radeon9200SE> Okay.
[11:22] <thelionroars> If you mention what you are having trouble with Radeon9200SE, someone in the channel may be able to help
[11:22] <_-LC-_> Under HARDWARE->Input Devices
[11:23] <Radeon9200SE> Okay
[11:23] <_-LC-_> Then click on "Mouse" and select "Double click to open files" followed by "apply".
[11:23] <Radeon9200SE> Gotcha
[11:23] <Radeon9200SE> Thanks
[11:23] <_-LC-_> Should feel much better now. ;-)
[11:23] <Radeon9200SE> ^^
[11:23] <Radeon9200SE> This is the first time using IRC too.
[11:24] <_-LC-_> thelionroars: Did you fall asleep?
[11:24] <Radeon9200SE> I've been using MSN for my entire life.
[11:24] <_-LC-_> Radeon: What client are you using?
[11:24] <Radeon9200SE> Quassel
[11:24] <_-LC-_> OK
[11:24] <_-LC-_> Well, MSN is dying anyhow. Microsoft pushes everything to Skype now...
[11:25] <Radeon9200SE> Yea, I've read about that.
[11:25] <_-LC-_> When they're finished, they will probably break it for Apple and Linux users - as usual.
[11:25] <_-LC-_> So far Skype4 works well under Linux. ;-)
[11:26] <Radeon9200SE> I'm having a bit of trouble getting that installed.
[11:26] <_-LC-_> Skype4?
[11:26] <Radeon9200SE> Yeah
[11:26] <thelionroars> _-LC-_: I am still here
[11:27] <Radeon9200SE> I downloaded the Ubuntu 12.04
[11:27] <Radeon9200SE> one
[11:27] <_-LC-_> thelionroars: Did you checkout the bugs?
[11:27] <Radeon9200SE> Nope.
[11:27] <_-LC-_> http://www.noobslab.com/2012/06/install-skype-40-in-ubuntulinux-mint.html
[11:27] <thelionroars> I'm on 12.10 and don't have a 12.04 install
[11:28] <thelionroars> I didn't quite understand what behaviour 'puff' is referring to
[11:28] <_-LC-_> thelionroars: And Ark works with rar archieves there? Doubt it.
[11:28] <_-LC-_> thelionroars: Segmentation fault == application crash
[11:28] <thelionroars> with archives, I have always right clicked and used 'extract'
[11:29] <thelionroars> Its difficult for me to suggest anything until you tell me what 'puff' actually means
[11:29] <thelionroars> does it disappear?
[11:29] <monkeyjuice> poof might be a better wood ;)
[11:29] <monkeyjuice> word lol ack
[11:30] <thelionroars> didn't get any of that monkeyjuice
[11:30] <monkeyjuice> n/m
[11:30] <_-LC-_> thelionroars: The KDE crash handler pops up.
[11:31] <thelionroars> strange!
[11:31] <_-LC-_> thelionroars: Extract to works. But you don't get to see the archieves contents that way...
[11:31] <thelionroars> on 12.10 if I click it, I do get to see the contents
[11:31] <thelionroars> not right clicking though
[11:31] <_-LC-_> 64-bit?
[11:31] <thelionroars> yes 64 bit
[11:31] <_-LC-_> Me too.
[11:31] <thelionroars> are you fully updated
[11:32] <_-LC-_> Yep.
[11:32] <_-LC-_> They are "solid" archieve, but more rar archieves are...
[11:33] <_-LC-_> Hmm... it seems to work with small archieves.
[11:35] <_-LC-_> Crashes with a bigger (300MB, houndreds of files) archieve though. With all of them.
[11:35] <thelionroars> how much memory does your system have
[11:36] <_-LC-_> 8 GB
[11:36] <_-LC-_> Can't be that - I can unrar them to ramfs. ;-)
[11:39] <_-LC-_> Try creating an archieve of /usr like:    "rar a -s -m5 -md4096 -ep1 -ol -ow -r /tmp/testarc.rar /usr"
[11:39] <_-LC-_> That should do.
[11:41] <navlelo> _-LC-_: It sounds more like an Ark problem than a Kubuntu problem... you could try to attach a debugger and paste the stacktrace in #kde
[11:41] <thelionroars> I would go to launchpad.net and file a bug report
[11:41] <_-LC-_> navlelo: Would have to install debug symbols and such...
[11:41] <_-LC-_> Did you try QuickLaunch with more than 1 row?
[11:45] <navlelo> _-LC-_: Is the widget in a panel, or directly on the desktop?
[11:45] <_-LC-_> Panel
[11:46] <_-LC-_> Try 5 rows.. Then add a few applications via drag and drop - and if you still can, try shifting them around.
[11:52] <navlelo> _-LC-_: Ok, Ive tried both dragging and dropping and shifting them around with 5 rows... It works fine for me
[11:52] <_-LC-_> ???
[11:53] <_-LC-_> *Sheesh* 64-bit too?
[11:53] <navlelo> yep
[11:53] <_-LC-_> 12.04
[11:53] <navlelo> yess
[11:55] <heoyea> .
[11:57] <_-LC-_> rar a -s -m5 -md4096 -ep1 -ol -ow -r /tmp/testarc.rar /usr
[11:57] <_-LC-_> is finishing here, let's see if that is enough for a crash...
[11:59] <sandsmark> so, how do I do the actual upgrade after adding the PPA?: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.9.90
[12:00] <_-LC-_> sandsmark: sudo apt-get update
[12:01] <sandsmark> did that
[12:01] <sandsmark> but dist-upgrade doesn't want to upgrade anything
[12:01] <sandsmark> do I need to pin something, or?
[12:01] <_-LC-_> Oh, you want to do a DIST update?
[12:01] <sandsmark> or just upgrade
[12:01] <sandsmark> upgrade doesn't do anything either
[12:02] <_-LC-_> It doesn't install any packages?
[12:02] <sandsmark> nope
[12:02] <sandsmark> neither does aptitude full-upgrade
[12:03] <_-LC-_> In your package manager (GUI) there should be an option reading "Pre-release updates" under "Updates" you should check that.
[12:04] <sandsmark> ah, I need to use gui
[12:04] <_-LC-_> navelo:       rar a -s -m5 -md4096 -ep1 -ol -ow -r /tmp/testarc.rar /usr        does it for me.
[12:05] <_-LC-_> navelo: The resulting archieve is about 1 GB (takes a while) and crashes Ark if clicking on it.
[12:05] <sandsmark> hm, that gave me all kinds of other uprgades, but nothing KDE-related
[12:06] <_-LC-_> sandsmark: Do the versions even show up in the GUI?
[12:06] <sandsmark> ah, wtf
[12:06] <sandsmark> they have new names and stuff
[12:07] <sandsmark> kdebase-workspace instead of kde-workspace
[12:07] <sandsmark> packaging fluke?
[12:07] <navlelo> _-LC-_: soz, I dont have the time to check that right now
[12:07] <_-LC-_> navlelo: Sure, do it some other time...
[12:08] <heoyea> fresh install
[12:08] <_-LC-_> sandsmark: Maybe so you can install both versions, but I'm guessing on this.
[12:08] <sandsmark> hmm
[12:09] <sandsmark> the packages seem empty
[12:10] <sandsmark> kdebase-workspace-bin only contains two files; copyright and the changelog
[12:10] <_-LC-_> Hmmm....
[12:10] <_-LC-_> and  kde-workspace shows which version?
[12:10] <sandsmark> are the packages tested?
[12:10] <sandsmark> 4:4.9.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10~ppa1
[12:10] <sandsmark> hmm
[12:10] <tsimpson> it's kde-workspace-bin not kdebase-workspace-bin
[12:10] <tsimpson> the latter is a transitional package
[12:11] <_-LC-_> Right click?
[12:11] <sandsmark> wait, wtf
[12:11] <sandsmark> tsimpson: ah
[12:11] <sandsmark> uh, I already have 4.9.90 installed
[12:11] <_-LC-_> :-)
[12:11] <sandsmark> ... I just don't remember installing it
[12:11] <_-LC-_> *lol*
[12:11] <_-LC-_> Can't be that buggy then.
[12:12] <sandsmark> well, *I'm* buggy :p
[12:12] <_-LC-_> Need to fetch myself some food. That's for your help! C'ya fellas...
[12:52] <abuumayra> hello everybody
[12:52] <monkeyjuice> hello abuumayra
[13:21] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:25] <abuumayra> هل أحد منكم يتحدث بالعربية ؟
[13:32] <BluesKaj> !ar
[13:32] <BluesKaj> !ab
[13:35] <BluesKaj> !ac
[13:38] <BluesKaj> !arabic | abuumayra
[13:39] <abuumayra> thank you
[13:43] <m477> I want to have possibility opening terminal with current path, when right click->'open with terminal', do you know how to do that?
[13:49] <BluesKaj> m477, depends on your current path
[13:50] <m477> BluesKaj: I didnt precise, right click in window manager
[13:52] <BluesKaj> m477, sorry , I don't understand ..just tell us what you are trying to do
[13:52] <m477> file manager*
[13:54] <BluesKaj> the terminal prompt is by default in the home direcrory , m477
[13:54] <m477> for example I have opened  kde file manager window in directory /home/a, and I want to have possibility to instant open terminal with that path by click right button on background and typing option 'open with terminal' or something like that
[13:55] <BluesKaj> or dolphin /home/yourusername
[13:56] <BluesKaj> read my post above about the default path in the terminal
[13:56] <m477> eh
[13:56] <m477> it is not my point
[13:56] <BluesKaj> then I don't understand you
[13:57] <max_> а по русски здесь кто нибудь говорит?
[13:57] <BluesKaj> just open terminal ,mt's path is ~/ or your home directory
[13:58] <m477> BluesKaj: ok I just found out that it is already by default, right click-action-open here terminal...
[13:59] <BluesKaj> m477, yes, that's what I've been trying to tell you
[13:59] <m477> I didnt understand you as well :)
[14:00] <BluesKaj> the terminal prompt is by default in the home direcrory]
[14:00] <m477> so?
[14:01] <BluesKaj> I can't get much clearer than that
[14:01] <BluesKaj> or use the polish chat
[14:02] <m477> option "right click-action-open here terminal" sets current path of window automatically
[14:02] <BluesKaj> if you open it in that directory
[14:03] <BluesKaj> so now you know
[14:03] <m477> I am talking about that all the time
[14:07] <BluesKaj> m477, all you needed to do was open a terminal using ":actions" and the terminal prompt will show the path
[14:09] <m477> I hadnt been aware that it is by default
[15:51] <humberto_> Hi all
[15:53] <humberto_> I would like some help from you regarding DNS resolution.
[15:54] <humberto_> Someone already disabled ipv6 queries (yyyy records)?
[15:58] <BluesKaj> humberto_, in what manner , and what is your network environment ?
[16:00] <humberto_> In different environments.
[16:00] <humberto_> This occurs even as a simple client with direct connection to the internet.
[16:00] <humberto_> For example
[16:01] <humberto_> I have a bind9 server running in <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:01] <humberto_> In one terminal a can sniff my dns queries:
[16:01] <humberto_> tcpdump -i lo udp port 53 -n
[16:01] <humberto_> In other terminal:
[16:01] <humberto_> lynx www.caixa.gov.br
[16:02] <humberto_> This site has no ipv6 mapping.
[16:02] <humberto_> But, i can see many AAAA dns requests
[16:03] <humberto_> I disabled the ipv6.
[16:04] <humberto_> Disabled in grub
[16:04] <humberto_> But the problem persists.
[16:05] <humberto_> But, the system insists with ipv6 resolving.
[16:11] <humberto_> How to disable this type of query.
[16:12] <humberto_> How to force requests "ipv4" before "ipv6"?
[16:12] <humberto_> I've tried several tips on the internet but did not work.
[16:16] <BluesKaj> humberto_, sorry , I have no experience with ipv6 blocking
[16:17] <tsimpson> humberto_: did you look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4 ?
[16:21] <humberto_> Thanks to response... i tried this link too
[16:21] <humberto_> I can disable ipv6
[16:21] <BluesKaj> humberto_, I see you joined #ubuntu , there are alot more ppl there with fairly advanced networking experience , perhaps you could explain your situation as you described here to them
[16:22] <humberto_> I will try in #ubuntu too
[16:22] <humberto_> My problem is only with client dns requests
[16:23] <humberto_> I saw many questions about this on the internet, but many still have the problem.
[16:42] <adamkex> Hey, I'm trying the kubuntu 12.10 live cd out. The left sound channel is mute. The center and right channels work.
[16:49] <BluesKaj> adamkex, kmix is probly setup for stereo not center cha nd surround
[16:50] <BluesKaj> err center channelk and surround
[16:50] <BluesKaj> also check alsamixer in the terminal , speaker controls
[16:51] <adamkex> BluesKaj: I'm in the Phonon settings, and I can test the right and the left channel. The left one is mute. I also tried playing a youtube video and the left one was still mute
[16:53] <BluesKaj> adamkex, open alsamixer in the terminal and check the speaker outputs since it appears you have a 5.1 or greater surround setup
[16:53] <adamkex> BluesKaj: It's open
[16:54] <BluesKaj> phonoin isn';t the place to test a surround system , it's mainly to for testing the drivers to make sure they work
[16:54] <BluesKaj> do you see speaker output controls ?
[16:55] <adamkex> BluesKaj: Yup. Only the mics and the Line and the S/PDIF is muted
[16:57] <BluesKaj> adamkex, hit the F5 key to shaow all controls
[16:57] <BluesKaj> show
[16:58] <adamkex> BluesKaj: capture and the microphones are muted
[16:59] <BluesKaj> adamkex, use the L&R arrow keys to navigate
[16:59] <adamkex> BluesKaj: Yeah. All the different Mics are muted
[17:00] <BluesKaj> what about speaker controls , is your system analog or spdif digital out?
[17:01] <adamkex> BluesKaj: It's a 3.5 standard socket so I guess it's analog
[17:01] <adamkex> BluesKaj: My usb headset is working fine
[17:02] <adamkex> It's only the left channel. Center and Right is working
[17:05] <BluesKaj> adamkex, which soundc ard
[17:05] <BluesKaj> 3.5 ?
[17:06] <BluesKaj> if the speakers are connected to the soundcard , means it's an analog setup
[17:07] <adamkex> BluesKaj: Asus P8P67 LE REV B3, yes I think it's analog
[17:08] <adamkex> I'm using 3.5mm
[17:08] <BluesKaj> some ppl use a the digital cox or toslink out to an audio amplifier that can decode the digital signals
[17:08] <BluesKaj> coax
[17:09] <adamkex> I can connect it to my phone
[17:09] <adamkex> or mp3 player
[17:12] <adamkex> I really have no clue why the left side isn't working
[17:13] <BluesKaj> adamkex, run sudo aplay -l , and post the first "Card 0 " string
[17:13] <BluesKaj> we need to know which driver to use
[17:14] <adamkex> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/ZWyHUu7g
[17:18] <adamkex> BluesKaj: I can see it trying to play sounds in kmix when I tell it to use the left speaker
[17:18] <BluesKaj> adamkex, run , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel  , there will be no result if the sound module/driver loads properly , then open phonon and check "Audio Hardware Setup" , if it's available , if not install pavucontrol
[17:18] <BluesKaj> adamkex, then you will have to reboot
[17:19] <adamkex> BluesKaj: I'm using a live cd, loading a module shouldn't make me reboot
[17:20] <BluesKaj> oops , sorry I forgot
[17:21] <BluesKaj> well, if you install the OS , then you'll know what to check
[17:22] <adamkex> BluesKaj: alright, I might to try to install the OS later and hope the sound works properly
[17:22] <adamkex> if not I might have to use a different distro
[17:22] <BluesKaj> adamkex, you could try , sudo alsa force-reload
[17:23] <BluesKaj> adamkex, that's your choice , but I don't think you'll find much difference in the audio setups
[17:23] <adamkex> BluesKaj: different kernel configs, slightly different configs
[17:24] <adamkex> different versions of software
[17:25] <BluesKaj> well, not much differnt in real terms , or software , but have fun
[17:25] <adamkex> I used Gentoo over a year ago and I think it worked then
[17:25] <adamkex> This has to be some sort of bug, doesn't make sense that only one channel doesn't work
[17:26] <adamkex> BluesKaj: anyhow, thanks >(
[17:26] <adamkex> :)
[17:26] <BluesKaj> you can't expect perfection on a live cd, ada
[19:00] <MarcusSensei> hi, can you help me? i would like to compile phonon-vlc and/or amarok from git and i get this message http://pastebin.com/GhrVTUAt I1m using raring. Do you know what package should i install?
[19:01] <deffrag> Hello! I'm using Kubuntu 12.04 running KDE 4.9.3. I've two accounts in KDE, one primary other as guest. I'm currently logged into second account as my primary account after inputting password is immediately coming back to login screen without any errors. I'm not sure how to fix it without resetting KDE/deleting .kde as I don't have old working .kde backup
[19:02] <deffrag> How can I fix the issue please? The issue came after resuming from sleep, was reading a pdf file and suddenly screen got blank not taking any inputs that only restart was an option.
[19:03] <simplew> sometimes when running dolphin as root it fails to run applications from it, for example when double clicking in a text file i get this message: KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/kwrite', can anyone help?
[19:03] <simplew> yofel: any hint?
[19:14] <yofel> simplew: not really as I never do that
[19:15] <ikonia> simplew: how are you launching it as root
[19:16] <simplew> yofel: who can fix this? can you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-baseapps/+bug/1085405   this appears to be a problem caused by inotify dolphin patches
[19:19] <yofel> simplew: I know nothing about our inotify implementation except that it usually works
[19:19] <ikonia> simplew: how are you launching it as root
[19:19] <simplew> ikonia: kdesudo
[19:19] <simplew> or you can su -   and run it from there, its the same
[19:20] <ikonia> interesting
[19:20] <ikonia> I wondered how it was passing it through
[19:20] <ikonia> simplew: that's not the same
[19:20] <ikonia> that's why I was asking
[19:20] <simplew> i dont know kdesudo very well, but the issue is about calling dbus
[19:21] <ikonia> simplew: yes, but I was wondering if it was passing the information through a series of files, and the permissions where causing the problem
[19:21] <ikonia> simplew: the first time you got this problem, do you use kdesudo or su -
[19:21] <simplew> kdesudo
[19:22] <ikonia> that's one theory out the window
[19:23] <simplew> but it also happens with su - of if you instead use dolphin.desktop and add a line to enable X-KDE-SubstituteUID
[19:23] <simplew> ikonia: that will be the same as using kdesudo
[19:24] <ikonia> it's not the same
[19:24] <ikonia> su -, I'm not interested in
[19:24] <ikonia> I was interested if it occured use kdesudo
[19:25] <simplew> ikonia: its not about how it calls dbus, if your a developer and are interested in providing some fix i think would better for you to look to the bug report i said
[19:26] <ikonia> I'm not a KDE developer, I was just intereted
[19:26] <simplew> ...
[19:26] <yofel> simplew: I can tell you that it has nothing to do with inotify
[19:26] <yofel> I get those warnings here too, and it works
[19:27] <simplew> yofel: interesting, i need to look better
[19:27] <yofel> which of course doesn't help with debugging at all -.-
[19:27] <simplew> yofel: indeed...
[19:28] <simplew> yofel: the only way to have it wokring is to logout...
[19:28] <yofel> er, wait, you mean it stops working at some point and only works again after you log out?
[19:29] <simplew> yes
[19:29] <yofel> okaaaayyy....
[19:30] <simplew> yofel: that sued to happen when a distro didnt set xhost for local or the user
[19:30] <simplew> yofel: but since in ubuntu that is set, theres no way to have it working without logout
[19:31] <simplew> yofel: did you ever tried setting encrypted password for grub2?
[19:32] <yofel> no, that's possible?
[19:36] <simplew> yofel: appears so
[19:37]  * yofel wonders what it's supposed to be useful for
[19:38] <yofel> for password protection I either use the BIOS password and/or encrypted LVM if I really want it protected
[19:39] <ikonia> yofel: probably one of the most pointless options in grub
[19:39] <yofel> agreed
[19:49] <laubosslink> hello, somebody could help me ? i've 2 keyboard, and i would like make different layout
[19:55] <hydron> what will hapend if I make a script executed every day at midnight using the command "at", and one day my machine was down at that time ?
[20:20] <laubosslink> lol
[20:21] <laubosslink> nobody ??
[20:21] <harshn> ?
[20:21] <laubosslink> "somebody could help me ? i've 2 keyboard, and i would like make different layout"
[21:21] <saad_> sdd
[21:21] <saad_> hello
[21:25] <Radeon9200SE> hello!
[22:27] <ernesto_> a
[22:29] <SIR_Taco> b
[22:50] <humberto> Has anyone experienced this?
[22:50] <humberto> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/216827
[23:02] <Guest11880> Hallo
[23:02] <Guest11880> Jemand da der mir helfen kann?
[23:32] <Radeon9200SE> hello


[14:33] <Kodokuu> Hi
[14:34] <Kodokuu> I have a issue with cloud-init : http://pastebin.com/4iwZvCxU
[14:34] <Kodokuu> I use openstack and vcenter backend for hypervisor
[14:35] <Kodokuu> How I force cloud-init to use EC2 cloud-type ?
[15:00] <Kodokuu> Ping ?
[15:06] <larsks> Kodokuu: I think you can modify the 'cloud.cfg' in your image to restrict the available data sources.  There may also be a boot parameter you can use.
[15:10] <kodokuu_> larsks i have modify cloud.cfg and add datasource but always vsphere in my log
[15:11] <kodokuu_> and always warning : Unhandled non-multipart (text/x-not-multipart) userdata:
[15:12] <kodokuu_> I try to install package with user-data, so I add packages httpd in user-data.
[15:12] <kodokuu_> [WARNING]: Unhandled non-multipart (text/x-not-multipart) userdata: 'packages:\n - httpd\n - my...'
[15:13] <kodokuu_> so cloud-init see my user-data but no execute package install ( I have package-update-upgrade-install)
[15:14] <larsks> kodokuu_: does your user-data start with '#cloud-config'?
[15:14] <larsks> That error sounds like cloud-init doesn't recognize what you're passing it.
[15:15] <kodokuu_> Shame on me :/
[15:17] <kodokuu_> i retry
[15:27] <kodokuu_> larsks Ok I Have no warning  but cloud-init don't install packages
[15:29] <kodokuu_> Always same error in log : http://pastebin.com/4iwZvCxU
[15:31] <larsks> kodokuu_: What if you modify the cloud.cfg *on disk* to have: datasource_list: ['OpenStack']
[15:31] <larsks> Or "Ec2" I guess, or whatever the EC2 data source is called.
[15:31] <larsks> What if you try using a config drive? I think that takes precedence over network data sources.
[15:37] <kodokuu_> larsks a config drive ?
[15:38] <larsks> kodokuu_: yes, cloud-init can read config from a locally attached cd-rom device rather than a network data source.  http://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/datasources.html#config-drive
[15:38] <larsks> With openstack, you get a config drive if you specify --config-drive=true when booting an image.
[15:40] <kodokuu_> i boot with horizon ^^
[15:40] <larsks> There's probably a checkbox for that.
[15:40] <kodokuu_> And I use vcenter hypervisor so hard to boot with config drive
[15:41] <kodokuu_> I think is for KVM libvirt
[15:41] <larsks> There is nothing kvm/libvirt specific about config drivers.
[15:41] <larsks> In horizion, in the "advanced options" tab, there is a "configuration drive" checkbox.
[15:41] <kodokuu_> I can reach <IP_ADDRESS>, i have a route so why use config drive ?
[15:43] <kodokuu_> I use Icehouse version, I dont have this checkbox
[15:43] <larsks> kodokuu_: Huh, bummer.  Anyway, I was just suggesting ways of working around the error.
[15:44] <kodokuu_> ok thx for you help :) I can execute bash script in user-data, cloud-init execute my script but cloud-init format never works
[15:48] <larsks> this is sometimes caused if the default cloud.cfg does not enable the package-update-upgrade-install module. Check /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.
[15:48] <larsks> ...at least, if the only problem is that packages won't install.
[15:49] <larsks> If cloud-config user-data doesn't work at all, I'm not sure.
[15:49] <kodokuu> larsks I enabled this module in cloud.cfg
[15:51] <kodokuu> I retry with other module
[15:56] <smoser> kodokuu, can you give example of the config ?
[15:56] <smoser> it has to start with '#cloud-config' .
[16:00] <kodokuu> smoser yes
[16:00] <kodokuu> http://pastebin.com/e8QtYwrU
[16:01] <smoser> what is cloud-init version and OS ?
[16:02] <kodokuu> Maybe important: I use cloud-init 0.7.4
[16:02] <smoser> and is there /var/log/cloud-init*
[16:02] <kodokuu> and Rhel 6.4
[16:03] <kodokuu> smoser http://pastebin.com/VD7LHr13
[16:05] <kodokuu> Since rm -rf /var/lib/cloud/  i have  No instance datasource found!
[16:05] <smoser> ah. yeah.
[16:06] <smoser> sudo cloud-init init --local
[16:07] <kodokuu> ok
[16:07] <kodokuu> and after ?
[16:16] <kodokuu> I will try tomorrow thxfor help :p^


[06:26] <dpm> good morning all
[06:32] <ajmitch> morning dpm
[06:32] <dpm> hey ajmitch :)
[07:06] <dholbach> good morning
[14:33] <highvoltage> hello
[14:35] <dpm> heya highvoltage, how's it going?
[14:37] <highvoltage> dpm: good!
[14:38] <dpm> that's what we like to hear :)
[14:38] <highvoltage> dpm: figuring out how I can catch up with the ARB mails, but I'll just dive into that later today and see how it goes
[14:38] <highvoltage> dpm: and you? how are things?
[14:39] <dpm> good too. This week has been relatively quiet for Ubuntu standards, as we've been getting all the blueprints ready, but it's just the calm before the storm as we start ramping up to Q :)
[14:42] <highvoltage> I think this is going to be a really good cycle.
[14:42]  * highvoltage has an intuition for these kind of things :)
[21:28] <ajmitch> morning


[07:19] <dothebart> moin
[07:19] <dothebart> is there an automated way to trigger the poll of packages from debian?
[07:20] <dothebart> i'd like citadel 8.24 bugfix release to be included asap...
[07:22] <Noskcaj> dothebart, it's in ubuntu trusty
[07:24] <mitya57> But otherwise, use requestsync command from ubuntu-dev-tools package
[07:29] <dothebart> will that be the next lts?
[07:29] <geser> trusty aka 14.04
[07:29] <dothebart> which at least for me doesn't answer the questyon - yes or no? ;-)
[07:30] <geser> yes
[07:31] <dothebart> okies - grat thanks.
[07:32] <dholbach> good morning
[07:33] <mitya57> Hi dholbach!
[07:33] <dholbach> hi mitya57
[18:24] <Navdeep_> Hello need some help for creating a deb file of android developer tools
[18:31] <Navdeep__> Hello there need some help with packaging of Android developer tool , Can somebody help me ?
[18:33] <Navdeep__> Hello is anybody online ??
[18:34] <Pici> Navdeep__: #ubuntu-packaging might interest you
[18:34] <Navdeep__> Thanks


[03:09] <nullack> ping asac
[05:13] <nullack> ping asac if your there :)
[05:34] <nullack> Can I please appeal for people testing Intrepid to consider adding some ppa binaries for sound and flash experience
[05:34] <nullack> Its discussed here
[05:34] <nullack> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5797571#post5797571
[05:34] <nullack> Including instructions for the PPA
[05:52] <stgraber> nullack: it's 6:34 his time, I'd wait an hour or two before he appears :)
[05:52] <nullack> Thanks Stephan :) the appeal for testing is open for any Intrepid testers :) Just a shameless bump
[06:04] <nullack> sbeattie : along with the other links I just suggested
[06:04] <nullack> sbeattie: Can I also give http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/demos/
[06:05] <nullack> sbeattie: that URL has a bunch of demos for flash 10 new features
[06:05] <nullack> To get coverage of new functionality
[07:03] <ara> morning all :)
[07:03] <nullack> Morning :) Or Evening in my case
[07:04] <ara> good evening nullack
[07:50] <edwinmmoore> Can someone please help me find where to report a successful upgrade from 8.04? I can't seem to find where to submit a testing form.
[07:55] <nullack> Success is good, I think generally its bugs that are reported
[07:57] <persia> edwinmmoore: Indeed.  Success is the expected case, so there's no need for the reports.  The exception is when there is a new candidate prepared for an Alpha, Beta, RC, or final release, when there is a rush to verify successful installation.
[07:57] <edwinmmoore> ok thanks
[07:57] <persia> If you want to participate, you'll want to start downloading the pre-Alpha test images about one day before the next Alpha date.
[10:07] <ara> davmor2: ping
[10:07] <davmor2> ara: pong
[10:08] <ara> davmor2: one quick one, in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Includes there are many applications test cases, i.e. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Includes/Ekiga
[10:08] <ara> davmor2: where are those referenced?
[10:09] <ara> davmor2: I though they were referenced somewhere below https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases, but I just don't see any
[10:09] <davmor2> ara: the idea is to alternate the test by swaping the includes line on the main page.   So I just wrote an includes for every app
[10:10] <ara> davmor2: which main page?
[10:11] <davmor2> ara: if you look at the main pages ie https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Ubuntu/LiveCd/LiveSession etc. you'll see that is is almost completely made up of include lines
[10:11] <ara> davmor2: OK. Thanks, that's what I was looking for :)
[10:12] <davmor2> mind you if that process could automated that would be better :)  But I have no idea if it is possible or how to do it :(
[13:12] <nullack> ping asac
[13:22] <heno> ara, schwuk: template for the test coverage page: https://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Coverage/Automation
[13:23] <nullack> Hi heno :)
[13:23] <heno> can we link to the actual test cases in some sensible way?
[13:23] <heno> Hi nullack, you've been looking for me?
[13:23] <heno> nullack: that was an excellent report you wrote up!
[13:24] <ara> heno: about the dk one, you mean, the actual results, or the description of the test case. anything else?
[13:24] <nullack> thanks, though I cant remember on which one :)
[13:25] <heno> ara: description and the script itself
[13:27] <ara> heno: yes, we can add a link to the code of the script: i.e. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apulido/ubuntu-desktop-testing/intrepid/annotate/10?file_id=gedit_chains.py-20080821111816-r0lps6v9asa0u9fc-4
[13:27] <ara> heno: and a link to the description in the wiki
[13:31] <heno> ara: thanks, see update
[13:39] <asac> nullack: ?
[13:39] <nullack> Hi Alexander
[13:45] <asac> nullack: can you remind me about the ia32-libs once alpha-6 is out?
[13:45] <nullack> Sure, Ive notied it
[13:45] <nullack> Ive done testing of Conns PPA
[13:46] <nullack> And I have a test report on the last page of his thread on the Ubuntu forums
[13:46] <asac> nullack: for the pulseaudio thing Conn should really come into the dev channels and talk to TheMuso
[13:46] <nullack> Yeah, hes with him and adding his PPA to his guide so they are working close
[13:46] <nullack> But that thread also deals with flash
[13:47] <nullack> Most of the feedback is about flash
[13:47] <asac> nullack: in which way? its about flash + pulseaudio isnt it?
[13:47] <nullack> Yes
[13:47] <nullack> For example, performance is better on the latest flash RC
[13:47] <asac> thats TheMuso then. if he isnt cooperative i can surely help to make a point. but i think he is just not aware of the ppa
[13:47] <nullack> Generally the user experience is better
[13:47] <asac> and maybe there are issues with it
[13:48] <asac> nullack: its just a new flash right?
[13:48] <asac> (besides the pulseaudio fixes)
[13:48] <asac> nullack: we can do that directly after alpha-6
[13:48] <nullack> Yes, with some 32bit libs
[13:48] <asac> right
[13:48] <asac> libflashsupport removal for instance
[13:48] <asac> ok
[13:48] <nullack> Understood, Ive noted it for after A6
[13:49] <nullack> Ive done some comparative platform testing on Mac OSX too
[13:49] <nullack> And well have to get a new release from Adobe for Linux
[13:49] <nullack> Still some functions are broken on linux flash
[13:49] <asac> nullack: we will upgrade flash to whatever is out before we release
[13:49] <asac> i wouldnt be too bothered that we would be blocked by any beta freeze on this
[13:50] <nullack> Right, the current flash updated sept 15 on Linux isnt right
[13:50] <asac> nullack: but we should surely get the latest available in the archive for beta ... agreed
[13:50] <nullack> Good news
[13:50] <asac> nullack: isnt right? in which way?
[13:50] <asac> not final or are there new issues?
[13:50] <nullack> The following URL is a good test site
[13:51] <nullack> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/demos/
[13:51] <asac> yeah
[13:51] <nullack> Try it on Mac OSX, and youll see how the flash has demos of features
[13:51] <nullack> On Linux, with Conns PPA and the Intrepid repo flash versions its all broken
[13:51] <asac> nullack: anyway. maybe one more word. if there are people really doing technical work in the forums they should surely join the dev channels and talk to the right people how and if we can use their work
[13:51] <nullack> The flash doesnt display menus and no demos
[13:52] <asac> thats much more efficient ;)
[13:52] <nullack> asac: Ill try to encourage him - he gets a bit grumpy
[13:52] <asac> grumpy about what?
[13:53] <nullack> Im not sure he knows who to talk too and gets frustrated about the level of progress
[13:53] <asac> nullack: right. thats what i mean. there will be _no_ progress if he does his work in the forums
[13:53] <asac> i understand that he might be frustrated.
[13:53] <asac> thats why i feel that he might just not know the proper procedures
[13:53] <asac> so lets help him
[13:54] <nullack> asac : Maybe you could PM him on the forums, coming from a dev it might be more exciting for Conn than coming from me
[13:54] <nullack> asac : Or another Dev :) Hes quite a knowledgeable guy
[13:54] <asac> nullack: i can do that ... can you give me a post he made?
[13:54] <asac> so i can click on it?
[13:54] <heno> ara: could you add some of your other desktop tests to that page? (https://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Coverage/Automation)
[13:54] <nullack> First post : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=866965
[13:54] <asac> nullack: i couldnt spott him in the thread you gave me
[13:55] <asac> psyke83 ?
[13:55] <nullack> Oh yes, thats his forum name, his name on LP is conn
[13:55] <heno> schwuk: if we add a page in that wiki for each test we can link to them from the mails
[13:55] <ara> heno: sure
[13:55] <nullack> asac : thanks :)
[13:58] <asac> nullack: ok ... ping send
[13:58] <asac> sent
[14:00] <persia> He also uses psyke83 in IRC when he's about.
[14:17] <schwuk> heno: we can, but we'll have to create that link in the database where the results are.
[14:18] <heno> schwuk: ok, this would make more sense when we get a case ID as well
[14:31] <nullack> heno: One of the things I try to decide with test cases is the level of detail that should go into pre requisite conditions, test data, how detailed the test execution instructions should be
[14:32] <nullack> heno : What Ive learnt is that less is good for building tests quickly
[14:32] <nullack> heno : But it can bite you when you need to bring in new staff to execute tests
[14:32] <nullack> heno : Or the team churns
[14:32] <nullack> heno : Some my first bit of feedback is that the test cases are pretty light
[14:33] <nullack> heno : That may or may not be a problem depending on the objective
[14:33] <heno> nullack: conversely, I'm worried about defining the cases too strictly so that everyone tests the same thing each time and we don't discover what happens with odd configurations
[14:34] <nullack> heno : exploratory testing is good
[14:34] <heno> how do we balance those?
[14:34] <nullack> heno : But repetability is an issue too
[14:34] <nullack> heno : In my experience the balance comes from the test plan - the objectives
[14:34] <nullack> heno : And knowing how stable your team members will be in the group
[14:34] <heno> ok, so you would suggest explicitly separating out those activities
[14:35] <nullack> Well, theres assumed knowledge in the cases
[14:35] <nullack> And because input data isnt defined
[14:35] <nullack> You cant be sure the test will pass next time
[14:35] <nullack> Often bugs rely on input data
[14:36] <nullack> IMHO Id try to have some more formal tests that specify the cases out in a more IEEE standard way
[14:36] <nullack> And keep some others as exploratory type tests
[14:36] <heno> we rarely specify input data in fact
[14:36] <nullack> Boudnary cases
[14:37] <nullack> *Boundary
[14:38] <heno> nullack: I take your point about the cases being light - could you walk through an example perhaps (in an ML post ideally) taking it from it's current state to a more formal one?
[14:38] <nullack> Sure, can I do it later though its 11:38 pm :)
[14:39] <heno> right :)
[14:39] <heno> cgregan has written a bit about this as well - http://ubuntu-mobile-edition.blogspot.com/
[14:39] <nullack> Sorry, Id love to work on Ubuntu 24/7 :)
[14:39] <heno> I hear you
[14:40] <nullack> Ill share one thing
[14:40] <nullack> I was doing a contract for a major Aus government department on a mission critical app
[14:40] <nullack> We were in SIT - sociability testing
[14:41] <nullack> I happened to being showing someone in my team some ideas about boundary testing
[14:41] <cgregan> heno: :-)
[14:41] <nullack> And I crashed the app, and it corrupted the DB in the process
[14:41] <nullack> It was a major crisis to resolve
[14:41] <nullack> And from then on, I really care about input data and boundary test conditions
[16:01] <ara> davmor2: ping
[16:01] <davmor2> ara: pong
[16:05] <davmor2> ara: What's up?
[16:06] <ara> davmor2: as you might know, we are moving the ubuntu test cases to testcases.qa.ubuntu.com
[16:06] <davmor2> Yeap
[16:06] <ara> davmor2: can you please have a look to https://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu/Applications and tell me if you understand what it is needed? (we want a wider community to help a bit)
[16:07] <ara> davmor2: if you also want to pick one, you're more than welcome ;-)
[16:11] <davmor2> ara: any reason why most of the images are missing?
[16:13] <davmor2> ah it's okay you gone back to adding the images as attachments :)
[16:14] <ara> davmor2: reason is because is not yet done. That's the calling for help :)
[16:15] <ara> davmor2: Gedit is the one that in completely migrated
[16:15] <davmor2> ara: No Prob's I'll add it to my to do for tomorrow if that is okay :)
[16:16] <ara> davmor2: sure, but you don't have to do them all :-) we will ask more people to give a hand
[16:17] <davmor2> shouldn't take too long anyway :)
[16:27] <heno> cr3, schwuk: https://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Coverage/Automation


[00:08] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Hey all. My nexus4 screen smashed, and now I want to backup all my data onto my laptop. I have it connected right now, but I cant swipe the screen to give me access. What can I do?


[00:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> unsupprisingly 'new hardware' and 'new software' work well together
[00:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> mastercane, theres what LSB is for
[00:02] <Yahooadam> meh
[00:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> the next LTS will have driver cd update support built in, 6.06 doesnt
[00:02] <mastercane> Kamping_Kaiser: so your opinion is that ubuntu LTS is not made for ISVs who select it as base for their software?
[00:02] <Yahooadam> i thought the ubuntu repository machines compiled for you and stuff ... ?
[00:02] <mastercane> oh, driver cd support would be nice...
[00:03] <Yahooadam> oh well, i dont really understand all this stuff yet ;)
[00:03] <Yahooadam> packages and stuff confuse me :p
[00:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> Yahooadam, they dont cmopile "for you" per se
[00:03] <Q_Continuum> I just want to make myself a mirror :(
[00:03] <Yahooadam> i thought i saw somone say somthing in a forum thing for ubutnu, and it tried to compile
[00:03] <mastercane> Yahooadam: we sell groupware based on java, so our admin backend has to be deeply integrated with postfix, amavis, clamav, sieve, cyrus, ...
[00:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> Yahooadam, any ISV who wriets LSB 2.something complient apps will have them work on dapper
[00:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> Q_Continuum, pastebin your update script, and your error message
[00:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> Yahooadam, you can build your own if you want
[00:05] <Yahooadam> fair enough ... :)
[00:06] <mastercane> Kamping_Kaiser: if the ISv's customers use outdated hardware that is right, on 90 % of the actual server hardware Ubuntu 6.06 can't be installed / can only be installed with much manual work
[00:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> mastercane, point is if its LSB [2,3] complient, it will work on later versions too. as for dappers hardware support - such is life
[00:07] <Yahooadam> you know what i wish, that my server would last for more then 1 week without some kind of hardware or software failure >_<
[00:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> Yahooadam, :| thats not good
[00:08] <mastercane> "such is life" is not okay if you need a supported plattform for your product...
[00:08] <Yahooadam> mmm, oh and i nuked my HDD and then found out that my ram was bad :'(
[00:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> Yahooadam, :S
[00:08] <Yahooadam> despite what memtest might tell me
[00:08] <mastercane> only wanted to here opinions here - hope that there will be enough political power behind my requests so the kernel gets updated --> ubuntu LTS runs on actual hardware
[00:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> mastercane, yeah, i understand. Debian etch is out, or 6 months then theres another LTS (with driver cd support and crap)
[00:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> kernel will probably not get updated, its likely drivers will get backported to that kernel though
[00:10] <mastercane> that would be okay, too
[00:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> you'll need to ping someone like soren (iirc) to ask whats going on there
[00:15] <mastercane> Kamping_Kaiser sorry for the quit - upgrade of ,my workstation to gutsy killes the irc client
[00:15] <Yahooadam> lol
[00:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol.
[00:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> no worries
[00:16] <mastercane> real men stay gentlemen even in irc ;)
[00:19] <Q_Continuum> whaaa?
[00:19] <Q_Continuum> Lies.
[00:20] <mastercane> for what do you guys use your ubuntu-server? any other people around using it as spam filtering MTA ?
[00:20] <Yahooadam> TV, File and print server
[00:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> my ubuntu server is an LTSP and a gateway (filtering caching proxy) in a community centre, i dont run ubuntu at home
[00:21] <mastercane> LTSP5 ?
[00:22] <mastercane> what is a "community centre"?
[00:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> no, ltsp4
[00:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> thehut.org.au
[00:23] <mastercane> ah, okay
[00:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> well, 4 i think. running dapper
[00:23] <mastercane> what do you use as filter software?
[00:24] <mastercane> squid + privoxy or stuff like dansguardian?
[00:24]  * Yahooadam like IPCop
[00:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> i've got squid+dansguardian
[00:24] <Yahooadam> likes #
[00:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> at home i tried to get http-replicator+dansguardian going, but didnt seem to work
[00:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> i might try again later
[00:25] <Q_Continuum> Kamping_Kaiser, http://pastebin.com/d471406a0 - its an updated version from the one found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Debmirror (only changes are changing dapper to gutsy, and the removal of a potentially pesky apostrophe, as the original pastebin post shows)
[00:26] <Q_Continuum> Running it again without the apostrophe, seeing if it fails again.
[00:26] <mastercane> is there a way to log the traffic user based in this enviroment?
[00:27] <mastercane> had the problem some months ago: a company with MX terminalservers + citrix wanted to log all traffic userbased
[00:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> mastercane, iptables can monitor per user, not tried it myself
[00:27] <mastercane> but all browser sessions for example come from the terminalserver - right?
[00:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> Q_Continuum, wheres tthe apostrophy you removed?
[00:27] <mastercane> so iptables is no proper way
[00:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> mastercane, i dont know how citrix works very much
[00:28] <Q_Continuum> just above where debmirror is called, near the bottom.  first line in that last paragraph before debmirror - 'and not deb-src's'
[00:28] <stiv2k> what do i have to do to upgrade my server from feisty -> gutsy?
[00:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> no you dont /have/ to
[00:30] <Q_Continuum> Kamping_Kaiser, the other issue I run into about 80% of the time is that it times out grabbing the package lists or the .gpg files of the package lists, I haven't found a server I can reliably pull from yet :-/
[00:30] <stiv2k> huh?
[00:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> Q_Continuum, dont see the apostrophy :|
[00:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> Q_Continuum, you wont for a day or two.
[00:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> the internet breaks for ~5 days after ubuntu gets released
[00:31] <Q_Continuum> I tried running it pre-release, let me find the forum post
[00:31] <Q_Continuum> I know :(
[00:32] <Q_Continuum> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=578790&highlight=debmirror+gutsy
[00:32] <Q_Continuum> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=578790
[00:32] <stiv2k> what command do i need to upgrade?  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesnt show any available updates
[00:33] <stiv2k> oh, maybe its do-release-upgrade ?
[00:33] <Q_Continuum> I was planning on mirroring it the day before, and having 99% of the stuff on my server, then just any last-minute fixes to download after that.
[00:35] <Q_Continuum> I'm stumped on the 'Patch binary missing, falling back to --pdiff=none' error.  I don't know what 'Patch binary' it is looking for :-/
[00:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> Q_Continuum, try installing the package `patch`
[00:36] <Q_Continuum> wow, there actually is such an app.
[00:37] <Yahooadam> lol
[00:37] <Yahooadam> my bios fails so badly at CPU temp readings
[00:37] <Yahooadam> CPU -126C/258F MB 125C/257F
[00:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> Q_Continuum, yup :)
[00:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol @ bios
[00:41] <Yahooadam> ive checked in ubuntu before and it was like 40C so im happy enough
[00:41] <Yahooadam> im pretty sure the bios is wrong ;)
[00:44] <mastercane> 90 % off BIOS / chipset sensors on consumer hardware show wrong values...
[00:45] <Yahooadam> yeah but usually not _that_ wrong :p
[00:46] <Yahooadam> maybe off by like 5% or somthing, not 315%
[00:57] <mastercane> okay - thats right ;)
[01:20] <leonel> I had  Feisty working with  qemu as host  with  feisty and gutsty  guests
[01:20] <leonel> now I've upgraded to Gutsy  and  the guests  hang with gutsy's qemu
[01:20] <leonel> Same as  bug 126046
[01:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 126046 in linux-source-2.6.22 "gobuntu hangs on boot under qemu" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126046
[01:23] <leonel> edgy and dapper as guests  work  fine
[01:23] <leonel> what could change  in gutsy ??
[01:44] <mastercane> leonel: post the corresponding log entries
[01:45] <mastercane> the second poster in the bugreport IMO only has a simple udev problem
[01:45] <leonel> mastercane: I guess just the same error he has  I have
[01:46] <leonel> the same screenshots he has  it's my error   I can't get any log
[01:46] <mastercane> you only have the message "/dev/disk/... does not exist"?
[01:47] <mastercane> why can't you get any log?
[01:47] <leonel> booting qemu ...
[01:48] <mastercane> which commandline do you use?
[01:48] <leonel> Loading please wait ...
[01:48] <leonel> qemu gutsy.img
[01:48] <leonel> I'm on gutsy as host  and gutsy as  guest
[01:48] <leonel> the instalation  needed to blacklist  piix_ata
[01:50] <leonel> still   loading  please wait ...
[01:51] <mastercane> nothing in the logfiles?
[01:51] <mastercane> can't you increase the loglevel?
[01:51] <leonel> now  I have a promt  with:
[01:51] <leonel> (initramfs)
[01:52] <leonel>  /dev/disk no such file  or directory
[01:53] <leonel>  in  /var/   I have  run and lock
[01:53] <mastercane> can you start the testimages?
[01:53] <leonel> no log files
[01:53] <leonel> what testimages ?
[01:53] <mastercane> http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/download.html
[01:54] <leonel> lets check ..
[01:55] <leonel> mastercane: any image in particular ??
[01:56] <mastercane> take the first
[01:56] <leonel> linux-0.2 ..
[01:56] <leonel> downloading ..
[01:58] <leonel> mastercane: I got  a shell
[01:58] <mastercane> so only your image is broken, not the complete qemu I think
[01:59] <leonel> mastercane:  tested   dapper  edgy  centos 5 and 4  and  all worked  fine  and those where installed on feisty host   now   feisty and gutsy as guests on   gutsy host  does not work
[02:00] <mastercane> did you install the non working gutsy image on gutsy or was it created under feisty, to?
[02:02] <leonel> first   feisty and gutsy where created  on  feisty  and worked fine   now  upgraded the host to gutsy and  the feisty and gutsy stopped working    then  make a gutsy  guest  on gutsy host  and  installed fine   just needed to  blacklist  the  PIIX_ATA    to find the cdrom for install    and installed fine    then at boot   this is the result
[02:03] <leonel>
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> without downloading the ISOs, how can i see whats on an install cds seed?
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm sure ogra has told me in the past, but i dont remember :(
[02:05] <mastercane> read this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/67256
[02:05] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 67256 in initramfs-tools ""-generic" kernel doesn't boot after upgrade to Edgy prerelease (but -386 does)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[02:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> any idea if ubuntu will remove all the extra indecies files for EOLd released like they removed the packages?
[02:13] <Burgundavia> Kamping_Kaiser: are the packages for warty actually gone?
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> Burgundavia, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ the packages lists are gone
[02:36] <leonel> didn't worked  and when boot in recovery mode   hangs  after detecting the eth0 and same error
[02:55] <Burgundavia> Kamping_Kaiser: but the packages, at least the source onnes, must bge there for gpl reasons
[03:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> Burgundavia, thtas possable, i dont know
[03:21]  * lamont waves from the colorado loco party
[04:24] <mikeo2> anyone here ever successfully configure SElinux with ubuntu-server?
[04:24] <mikeo2> everyone i have talked to in person says its impossible to configure properly, and to not waste my time with it
[04:24] <mikeo2> but since the NSA made it i think it might be worth the time
[05:39] <BBHoss> anyone know of a good dedicated server provider that installs ubuntu?
[06:19] <joebob777as7> hey need help with remote mysql. receiving Could not connect to host '<IP_ADDRESS>'.
[06:19] <joebob777as7> MySQL Error Nr. 2003
[06:19] <joebob777as7> Can't connect to MySQL server on '<IP_ADDRESS>' (111)
[06:20] <joebob777as7> google didn't help
[06:20] <PanzerMKZ> why does it have to be installed from the factory?
[06:21] <joebob777as7> anyone have any ideas or what i should be looking for?
[09:55] <Ali_ix> hi
[09:55] <Ali_ix> how can i reconfigure/reset WHOLE network settings (interfaces, interface names, ip addreses and ptable rules) in ubuntu? any dpkg-recinfigure like command/way to do?
[10:02] <soren> Ali_ix: No, that stuff is scattered a bit.
[10:03] <soren> Ali_ix: Renaming of interfaces is in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules.
[10:03] <soren> Ali_ix: ip address and such is in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:03] <soren> Ali_ix: iptables is up to you.
[10:04] <Ali_ix> soren: thanks for info, i have changed/added some network card and now whole network is messed up :|
[10:06] <soren> Ali_ix: Which version of Ubuntu?
[10:07] <Ali_ix> soren: Gutsy gibbon
[10:08] <Ali_ix> soren: i thinks first thing is to name interfaces correctly
[10:08] <soren> Ali_ix: Interface names should never change.
[10:08] <soren> Ali_ix: That's that /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules is there for.
[10:10] <Ali_ix> soren: i have 3 network cards, i have problem finding the interface connected to a specific network! if i can name them like eth-local eth-net eth-wireless it makes easie to config :)
[10:14] <soren> Ali_ix: Ah, right.
[10:14] <soren> Ali_ix: but Ubuntu should never be changing the names unless you've told it to do so.
[10:16] <Ali_ix> soren: yes, i thought there would be something to re arrange interfaces! after some nic change/removal i have som strange interface neames! eth0 eth3! and no eth2 and eth1! while the eth3 nic is the one from before nic changes ... 8} a bit confusing
[12:11] <Ali_ix> hi again :)
[12:58] <kraut> moin
[14:31] <stefg> I could use some documentation about packaging a restricted module for a selfmade kernel. obviously the old fashioned module-assistant method from debian doesn't work, th moduöe isn't found, i think because retriced manager expects it in a different place. Googled around for some time now, but gutsy docu isn't very widespread yet, it seems
[16:10] <isiahw1> Is there a GUI for the server edition or is it strictly command line?
[16:59] <c1|freakyy> can i see what packages have been upgraded in the last 2 apt-get upgrade s`?
[17:02] <mikeo2> do-release-upgrade froze, is there a way i could see exactly what it was doing and finish the upgrade myself?
[17:03] <mikeo2> it froze at the removing old packages stage
[17:03] <soren> c1|freakyy: /var/lib/dpkg.log
[17:03] <soren> c1|freakyy: /var/log/dpkg.log, I mean.
[17:03] <c1|freakyy> thank you
[17:03] <mikeo2> so autoremoved the old packages
[17:04] <mikeo2> but i don't want to restart the machine till i know its the newest version
[17:04] <mikeo2> what does do-release-upgrade do after removing old packages
[17:04] <mikeo2> it updated grub and everything already
[17:05] <mikeo2> last thing it did was update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-386
[17:17] <mikeo2> seems to work
[18:50] <stiv2k> hi, i recently did a do-release-upgrade on my server and when i came back a couple hours later it said the SSH session was terminated but i cant tell if the release upgrade was completed or not... what does this mean?
[19:34] <nealmcb> stiv2k: did you log back in?  what does "lsb_release -a" say?
[20:17] <nealmcb> stiv2k: did it warn you about upgrading over ssh, and create an additional ssh server on port 9004 in case of problems?
[20:18] <nealmcb> so you might try ssh -p 9004 user@machine   to get back in
[20:31] <stiv2k> nealmcb: i tried that but it said connection refused
[20:31] <stiv2k> No LSB modules are available.
[20:31] <stiv2k> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[20:31] <stiv2k> Description:    Ubuntu 7.10
[20:31] <stiv2k> Release:        7.10
[20:31] <stiv2k> Codename:       gutsy
[21:48] <stiv2k> do i need to reboot the machine after upgrading to gutsy?
[21:49] <stiv2k> its acting extremely slow
[22:10] <stiv2k> ok i have a serious problem
[22:10] <stiv2k> the server was being slow so i rebooted it and now 2 of my other filesystems arent showing up
[22:10] <stiv2k> ???
[22:11] <stiv2k> steve@galatea:/$ sudo mount /home
[22:11] <stiv2k> [sudo] password for steve:
[22:11] <stiv2k> mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /home busy
[22:11] <stiv2k> steve@galatea:/$ ls -l /home
[22:11] <stiv2k> total 0
[22:59] <stiv2k> help
[22:59] <stiv2k> someone
[23:01] <ScottK> !weekend | stiv2k
[23:01] <ubotu> stiv2k: It's a weekend.  Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question.  Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week.
[23:01] <stiv2k> ScottK: i see
[23:01]  * ScottK isn't the right person to help.  Sorry.
[23:01] <stiv2k> dont put yourself down like that
[23:02] <ivoks> :)
[23:02] <stiv2k> ivoks: can you help me
[23:02] <ivoks> maybe
[23:02] <stiv2k> maybe is better than no
[23:02] <ScottK> Not putting myself down, just file system issues aren't were my expertise is.
[23:02] <ivoks> uff... file system issues...
[23:02] <stiv2k> i really need to get this fs mounted cause i wanna watch a movie :/
[23:03] <ivoks> well, the problem is?
[23:03] <stiv2k> ivoks: ok my /home is on a different partition, /dev/sda1 than my root
[23:03] <stiv2k> and after doing the dist-upgrade and rebooting
[23:04] <stiv2k> all of a sudden the /home filesystem is not there anymore
[23:04] <stiv2k> mount /dev/sda1 /home says
[23:04] <stiv2k> mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /home busy
[23:04] <stiv2k> but its not mounted
[23:04] <stiv2k> and im stuck
[23:04] <ivoks> do you have evms installed?
[23:04] <stiv2k> yes
[23:04] <ivoks> deinstall it
[23:04] <stiv2k> why? what is it
[23:04] <ivoks> apt-get --purge remove emvs
[23:05] <ivoks> if you don't know, you don't need it
[23:05] <stiv2k> enterprise volume management or something?
[23:05] <ivoks> yes
[23:05] <stiv2k> still dont know what that is
[23:05] <stiv2k> also during the dist-upgrade my ssh session got terminated twice when it was doing update-initramfs
[23:06] <stiv2k> i dunno why
[23:06] <ivoks> i doubt that was the reason
[23:09] <stiv2k> the update-initramfs takes forever...
[23:12] <stiv2k> the session gets terminated every time
[23:12] <stiv2k> ivoks: so what now?
[23:12] <stiv2k> now that evms is gone
[23:13] <stiv2k> i still cannot mount the drive
[23:13] <ivoks> reboot
[23:13] <stiv2k> ok
[23:14]  * stiv2k hopes it works
[23:15] <stiv2k> YEAAA
[23:15] <stiv2k> ivoks: thanks a lot man
[23:15] <ivoks> np
[23:16] <ivoks> 'night all


[01:04] <elky> head_victim, i'm pretty sure it's a1. reinstalling inkscape to check for sure (reinstalled laptop, y'see). if a printer can't make you an a1 or smaller poster of that, then you'll be finding a /real/ printer.
[01:04] <head_victim> Sweet, I was thinking something a1 or a2 would be good.
[01:06] <head_victim> Officeworks have reasonable prices for that, will be under 20 a poster
[03:45] <Zanthus> the cloud functionality which is available in ubuntu is just a computing cluster isn't it?
[03:46] <Zanthus> so if I need a whole lot of computing power I can connect a whole lot of computers together in computing cluster or "cloud?"
 A PPA is now up
[11:33] <somethinginteres> 'ppa:libreoffice/ppa"
[13:14] <esc_phr34k> hey chesty  unfortunately that didnt work for me either
[13:14] <esc_phr34k> i just gave up on it no idea what a hell is going on
[13:15] <sagaci> hi
[13:17] <head_victim> Evening sagaci
[14:00] <somethinginteres> I'm missing something obvious but how do I pin an app to the sidebar in Netbook Unity?
[14:08] <sagaci> somethinginteres: right click it
[14:09] <somethinginteres> hmm that's what I thought it'd be. that doesn't seem to bring up any context menu
[14:18] <chesty> esc_phr34k: me either, put it back to how it was i guess
[14:42] <p2p4> arrrr, bloody windows.
[14:42] <p2p4> hi room.