[10:23] <Tallu> Warbo: hmm ok, no root usage then :)
[10:23] <eyequeue> nekostar, "host" tells me there are two there
[10:23] <Tallu> fyrestrtr: yeah, that's what I've gathered thus far.. :) I'll check out the help.ubuntu.com thanks
[10:23] <nekostar> eyequeue, eh?
[10:23] <paladinhugo> I'm using the live cd
[10:23] <holycow> heh
[10:23] <holycow> i need to get off of irc
[10:23] <nekostar> lost me a tad sorry
[10:23] <eyequeue> slimz, no, i think there is no room, it has to have all those apps etc :)
[10:23] <paladinhugo> can I download the .deb file, start with the old kernel and install the deb file?
[10:24] <holycow> i just said to someone 'you are the awesome' instead of 'thank you'
[10:24] <eyequeue> nekostar, "host us.archive.ubuntu.com"    handy command :)
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> holycow: atleast you didn't say you are teh awesome
[10:24] <Crescendo> How would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?
[10:24] <Paradoxx> which beginners guide to ubuntu do you all recommend?
[10:24] <joab> services that are checked in the services window will start at next boot too, right? i need to reboot remotely but need to make sure i can reach it after too :)
[10:24] <John[1] > Well I remembered the commands, now let me see if they work.
[10:24] <bambi^> Hi. Im trying to install Rubyonrails: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RubyOnRails. But when im trying to update gems i get following message: "Gem::GemNotFoundException"
[10:24] <teacordes> Warbo: is there any way to get the interface more similar to 3ds?
[10:24] <eyequeue> paladinhugo, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb, yeah
[10:24] <nekostar> u mean the <IP_ADDRESS> // .15 ?
[10:24] <Ross> how do i open gedit with root privledges?
[10:25] <orbish> anyone know where i can find modules.conf or a modprobe.conf?
[10:25] <Warbo> holycow: I found some old letters while I was clearing out a desk for a new computer, and I told my brother to "delete" them :)
[10:25] <Paradoxx> Ross: in terminal type sudo gedit
[10:25] <fyrestrtr> Ross: gksudo gedit
[10:25] <eyequeue> Ross, sudo gedit foo
[10:25] <Ross> rgr
[10:25] <nekostar> XD
[10:25] <paladinhugo> thx
[10:25] <nekostar> seems so
[10:25] <paladinhugo> brb
[10:25] <nekostar> thats probably the same server eyequeue
[10:25] <xeal> 'lo, got a question: I would like to have a live install disk instead of a cd, is there a way I can put the install cd on an external usb hd and boot from this instead of the cd?
[10:25] <nekostar> mm
[10:25] <holycow> Warbo, hehe
[10:25] <Paradoxx> which beginners guide to ubuntu do you all recommend?
[10:25] <xeal> I've googled but didn't come up with anything
[10:25] <eyequeue> nekostar, yeah, though 2 ip addys
[10:25] <Warbo> teacordes: Blender can use 4 views at once, although I can't work out how to set it up. Other than that, it takes a lot of getting used to :)
[10:25] <nekostar> eyequeue, yeh
[10:26] <John[1] > It prompted me for my cde and I can see my network card flashing
[10:26] <nekostar> someone should make a load distrobution proggie etc
[10:26] <nekostar> mmm
[10:26] <ddiinn> hey everyone, i have recently installed ubuntu on my laptop, an acer 4100 series, and then i installed winXP, now when i go in the live cd and try to restore the grub menu, like i read i should do in the ubuntu unofficel guide, the live CD does not let me access or didnt mount my linux partition, when i try to enter it it gives me error saying it cannot access the device, what should id do? is there any other way to restore grub?
[10:26] <nekostar> i assume its on gbit eyequeue ?
[10:26] <nekostar> have any idea what kinda bw they use?
[10:26] <eyequeue> nekostar, anyway, i fetched 10.4 from there hours ago, if that's helpful to know
[10:26] <teacordes> Warbo: i see... you cam from 3ds too?
[10:26] <nekostar> eyequeue, im way past that
[10:27] <eyequeue> nekostar, no, i think you may want to talk to someone not in this channel for those answers ... post to ubuntuforums?
[10:27] <nekostar> im thinking about getting a repository for ubuntu
[10:27] <nekostar> heh
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> ddiinn: your disk is probably mounted read only. Type 'mount' from a terminal, and tell me what device it is, and where its mounted.
[10:27] <teacordes> Warbo: ever tried 3ds max in wine or virtual machine?
[10:27] <nekostar> tried the forums a while back
[10:27] <nekostar> never got responce
[10:27] <harisund> Is there a way I can save a java applet from the web for offline viewing?
[10:27] <Warbo> teacordes: I came from Imaginge mainly, but I have a little 3DS experience (I haven't done anything 3D for a while, and I keep having to re-learn Blender's interface whenever I use it because it hasn't sunk in yet)
[10:27] <ddiinn> fyrestrtr: ok, hold on a moment, thanks for the replay
[10:27] <fyrestrtr> harisund: its in your cache, just fetch it from there.
[10:27] <Warbo> teacordes: After seeing how slow Flash MX runs in Wine I would shudder to think of 3DS Max
[10:28] <iratik> Can anyone tell me why user "www-data" shows 'date' as EDT and all other users show 'date' as 'CDT'?
[10:28] <harisund> fyrestrtr: where does firefox store its cache on Ubuntu? On Windows I know it is at C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Ap........
[10:28] <gimmulf> Is there any setting in System => Preferences => Login Screen that can prevent users from ssh:ing in?
[10:28] <amee2k> are there known problems on x64 with the xserver-xorg-core-1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 update? it didn't detect my video card (GeForce 6600) anymore after. i downgraded to a previous version (0ubuntu10) to temporarily work around the issue. is there a real fix for this problem?
[10:28] <Paradoxx> how do i install the dual processor head header files?
[10:28] <harisund> gimmulf: I doubt that. You could edit the /etc/ssh/sshd_config instead to disallow certain users.
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> harisund: ~/.mozilla/firefox
[10:28] <teacordes> Warbo: *shudders i think i will check it out in a win2000 vm
[10:28] <eyequeue> gimmulf, set their shell in /etc/passwd
[10:28] <fyrestrtr> gimmulf: turn off the ssh server.
[10:29] <harisund> fyrestrtr: ah ok thanks .. will have a look ..
[10:29] <Paradoxx> rather, does ubuntu take advantage of dual processors out of the box??
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> Paradoxx: no, you have to install the smp kernel.
[10:29] <harisund> Paradoxx: I think the Ub kernel comes with SMP enabled by default?
[10:29] <harisund> fyrestrtr: it doesn't?
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> I don't believe it does.
[10:29] <gimmulf> fyrestrtr:  well the problem is that i cant scp or ssh from my other local machine into this ubuntu box
[10:29] <gimmulf> but i can ping it and
[10:29] <Paradoxx> fyrestrtr: how do i install smp kernel?
[10:29] <ddiinn> ok so the exact error i get is not 'cannot access' it is 'unable to mound, device /dev/sda2 is not removable, could not execute pmount'
[10:29] <fyrestrtr> gimmulf: did you install openssh-server ?
[10:29] <LostFrog> The standard kernel is not SMP
[10:29] <gimmulf> fyrestrtr:  yes
[10:29] <ddiinn> mount*
[10:30] <fyrestrtr> Paradoxx: sudo apt-get install linux-686
[10:30] <Thunderpants> 686 for smp?
[10:30] <harisund> ah you are right fyrestrtr, that command is the first thing to do.. didn't realize the default is 386 :)
[10:30] <mtemmerm> 'lo, got a question: I would like to have a live install disk instead of a cd, is there a way I can put the install cd on an external usb hd and boot from this instead of the cd?
[10:30] <Paradoxx> fyrestrtr: thx
[10:30] <mitja> How do I disable a module in kernel that is currently in use and can't be removed momentarily?
[10:30] <sethk> mitja, you don't
[10:31] <mitja> sethk: so how do I do it?
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> mitja: to disable it would mean 'make it unusable'. You can't disable something being used, otherwise it'd be enabled.
[10:31] <sethk> mitja, I don't know that you can.  what are you trying to do?
[10:31] <fyrestrtr> mitja: you can unload it, that would disable it.
[10:32] <Paradoxx> what beginners guide to ubuntu do you all recommend?
[10:32] <mitja> fyrestrtr: how do I disable it?
[10:32] <mitja> unload, sorry
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> mitja: disable the unloading?
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> mitja: sudo rmmod nameofmodule
[10:32] <Thunderpants> Paradoxx, google dapper guide
[10:32] <ddiinn> Parradox the unofficel ubuntu guide is great ubuntuguide.com
[10:32] <sutabi> Anyone know where I can find kernel-build-<IP_ADDRESS>-386.deb ?
[10:32] <gimmulf> fyrestrtr:  what could be wrong? it has worked before
[10:32] <mitja> fyrestrtr: module is in use
[10:32] <ddiinn> sorry that ubuntuguide.org
[10:33] <sutabi> I can only find up to 2.4.X on the wiki
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> mitja: find out what is using it, what module is it?
[10:33] <mitja> fyrestrtr: ipv6
[10:33] <mitja> lsof ?
[10:33] <Sputn1k> Hello, how to change character encoding in gedit?
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> sutabi: I have 2.6.15 here
[10:33] <easytiger> how do i increase the number of columns at the console?
[10:33] <FatDarrel> sparkleytone, LANG=?
[10:33] <Thunderpants> Paradoxx, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/DapperGuide
[10:33] <npster> How do I install a GTK 2.x theme on Xubuntu ???
[10:33] <javiolo> hi
[10:34] <Paradoxx> Thunderpants: thx
[10:34] <eyequeue> npster, isn't gtk the GNOME toolkit?
[10:34] <sutabi> fyrestrtr know of a way I can get alhold of it I need to to rebuild my ndiswrapper
[10:34] <javiolo> Im trying to run the ubuntu desktop livecd on a pentium 3 with 128mb of ram and takes too much to load everythhing, any idea ?
[10:34] <mitja> fyrestrtr: lsof outputs nothing
[10:34] <npster> eyequeue: I don't understand
[10:34] <ubuntu__> whats up guys
[10:35] <eyequeue> npster, XFCE != GNOME
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> !ipv6 > mitja
[10:35] <jordan_> i just updated my ubuntu system and my xorg server will not start
[10:35] <npster> eyequeue: someone told me to go to gnome-look.org, where should I go
[10:35] <jordan_> can someone help?
[10:35] <lamego> jordan_, read the channel topic
[10:35] <eyequeue> jordan_, /topic
[10:35] <eyequeue> npster, no clue, i don't know much of xfce
[10:35] <fyrestrtr> sutabi: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-386 should get it for you. You most likely will also need the headers.
[10:36] <eyequeue> !themes
[10:36] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> npster: http://gnome-look.org <-- there
[10:36] <javiolo> is there any ubuntu that cames with fluxbox ?
[10:36] <eyequeue> npster, the bot only seems to know of kde and gnome
[10:36] <foolip> greetings. how can I reconfigure the network, like I did when I first installed ubuntu, from a console. there used to be a base-config, but that appears to be removed
[10:36] <lamego> javiolo, you can install it...
[10:36] <jvai> xubuntu.... it has it's own libs.. from what i read...
[10:36] <javiolo> lamego yep I know
[10:36] <ubuntu__> quick question, i just got the shipit cd's for kubuntu, but i didn't get the ubuntu/xubuntu cd's with it... do they send out more then one package at a time? where can i go to let them know im missing some? also, i like kubuntu's interface better then my ubuntu, can i do an apt-get install kubuntu and get kubuntu on my computer without having to reinstall everything and losing all my files and settings?
[10:36] <NickGarvey> javiolo: fluxbuntu might work, but I would suggest just doing an ubuntu server install then apt-get install fluxbox
[10:36] <Flannel> jvai: xfce uses GTK (which is what gnome uses)
[10:36] <paladinhugo> hello again
[10:36] <javiolo> nickgarvey ok
[10:36] <lamego> jvai, xubuntu shares the same libs from ubuntu, except for the xfce related apps
[10:36] <sutabi> fyrestrtr problem is my ndiswrapper broke and I only have wifi pci on that pc, know where I can download that?
[10:37] <eyequeue> ubuntu__, no, but close
[10:37] <npster> eyequeue: I'll go to xfce-look.org
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu__: if you order kubuntu, that's all you get. Not the entire set.
[10:37] <ugarit> anyone know of a good mpeg editor?
[10:37] <NickGarvey> ubuntu__: you can do "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[10:37] <yyy> hi
[10:37] <eyequeue> ubuntu__, the package is named kubuntu-desktop
[10:37] <jordan_> thank you
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> sutabi: download what exactly?
[10:37] <jvai> ok.... but.. i would think it would have the same apps, by default
[10:37] <paladinhugo> I've applied the patch but synaptic tells me that there is a new version of xserver-xorg-core
[10:37] <sutabi> fyrestrtr the update
[10:37] <ubuntu__> it wont delete all my files and settings right? just get the kde desktop basically?
[10:37] <yyy> last nicght i installed some upgrade of X and now i cannot log in to my system
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> sutabi: you don't have any network on that machine?
[10:37] <NickGarvey> ubuntu__: yup
[10:37] <ubuntu__> ok good :)
[10:37] <npster> How do I install it ? The theme ?
[10:37] <sutabi> fyrestrtr no
[10:37] <ubuntu__> kubuntu-desktop?
[10:38] <yyy> i m using live cd now
[10:38] <eyequeue> ubuntu__, kubuntu-desktop is a meta package, it will just pull in packages
[10:38] <jordan_> and thank you creators of irrsi and lynx
[10:38] <ubuntu__> gotcha :)
[10:38] <ubuntu__> thanks for the help guys
[10:38] <NickGarvey> yup
[10:38] <frfx2> i have a dapper cd.how do i get the server install?
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> sutabi: if you install it on another machine, just copy the .deb from /var/cache/apt/archives to the other machine.
[10:38] <dudus> my keyboard works fine under x but it's not ok on cli... anyone?
[10:38] <sutabi> fyrestrtr alright thanks
[10:38] <fyrestrtr> sutabi: if you don't have an other ubuntu machine, just search for the deb file on the net, and download it (like say on a Windows machine) and copy them over.
[10:38] <eyequeue> frfx2, the server cd :/  there are three dapper cds per arch
[10:39] <mokopila> hi my x servers messed up, i dont care if i have to reinstall the system all i whant is to back up my documents. how can i do that without a graphical interface_
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> frfx2: use the alternate install cd
[10:39] <NickGarvey> !xorgbug > mokomull
[10:39] <eyequeue> mokopila, /topic
[10:39] <NickGarvey> mokomull: (just run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and reboot)
[10:39] <mopflite> !xorgbug > mopflite
[10:39] <NickGarvey> oh wrong person
[10:39] <NickGarvey> mokopila: : (just run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and reboot)
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> !msgthebot > mopflite
[10:40] <mitja> fyrestrtr: thanks
[10:40] <profoX`> !xorgbug > profoX`
[10:40] <mokopila> thanks
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> !msgthebot
[10:40] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[10:40] <frfx2> is there no way to get the text mode install from the normal ubuntu cd? in breezy it was possible
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> !livecd
[10:40] <raveneye> Reboot after an X reroll isnt /etc/init.d/gdm stop start not enough? or just ctrl alt backspace?
[10:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[10:40] <Pensacola> )
[10:40] <fyrestrtr> frfx2: no, there isn't :)
[10:40] <orbish> what's the best way to see if i have a sound driver built into my kernel?
[10:40] <eyequeue> frfx2, things have changed sonce breezy days
[10:41] <L1> Can I discuss a laptop login problem (50% ok, 50% hangs on login)
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> orbish: play some music.
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> orbish: if you hear something, its working.
[10:41] <IcemanV9> is ubuntuforums slow to respond? anyone have this problem?
[10:41] <orbish> fyrestrtr: no sound, that's why i'm going through this trouble
[10:41] <LostFrog> lol
[10:41] <fyrestrtr> orbish: depends what kind of sound card you have.
[10:41] <ENE|Toxic> Anyone know if/how I can find out buss speed and some information about the memory?
[10:41] <orbish> intel8x0 is the module i need
[10:42] <IcemanV9> orbish: you might need to replace a hearing-aid battery. ;)
[10:42] <orbish> har har har :p
[10:42] <frfx2> eyequeue: if i press "escape" in the install menu, i get "boot:" i can't input "server" or something? :s
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> ENE|Toxic: memory information is free or cat /proc/meminfo -- bus speed and other jazz can be had with lshw
[10:42] <orbish> it's onboard audio with optical out... so it's a pain
[10:42] <fyrestrtr> frfx2: nope.
[10:42] <eyequeue> frfx2, try it if you like
[10:42] <ENE|Toxic> fyrestrtr: k, thanks
[10:42] <eyequeue> frfx2, i think those days have gone
[10:43] <eyequeue> frfx2, why not just grab the alternate or server cd for your arch?
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> frfx2: only the alternate cd provides that that kind of love and tenderness
[10:43] <Andy_Alpha> Hi! I need to remove FireFox. Can I do that from Synaptic or do I have to do smoething more?
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> Andy_Alpha: you can remove it from synaptic, that will take care of it.
[10:43] <eyequeue> frfx2, keep in mind the livecd has tons and tons of bytes tied up being the livecd
[10:43] <frfx2> eyequeue: but i have an idea! if i install breezy server and i upgrade?
[10:43] <josh__> got a problem
[10:43] <E-Jey_> Hi
[10:44] <eyequeue> frfx2, that would work as well
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> frfx2: it would be faster to download the alternate cd.
[10:44] <eyequeue> !upgrade
[10:44] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[10:44] <josh__> after putting in the kubuntu cd and checking out the live version, i went to take it out and then the the kubuntu-desktop update... but my gdm is now screwed up again
[10:44] <eyequeue> frfx2, fyrestrtr has a good point, a dist-upgrade would be a huge d/l
[10:44] <josh__> the last time this happened it was because of my ati drivers still be loaded instead of the nvidia ones
[10:45] <josh__> but i just checked and those are the same (they are the crrect ones
[10:45] <E-Jey_> I'd to make a simple html page with thumbnails of pictures. There are a lot of tools for that under windows. Is there a similar tool for ubuntu?
[10:45] <frfx2> eyequeue: i know how to upgrade :) bigger than an 700mb iso?
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> orbish: I don't know anything about optical out, but general sound card problems can be diagnosed easily. Find out what modules are running with lsmod
[10:45] <josh__> but the error says no device/screennot found
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> E-Jey_: a few hundred I would imagine.
[10:45] <eyequeue> frfx2, obviously it depends how many packages are installed, but i'd say definitely yes
[10:45] <sethk> E-Jey_, html is the same in windows and in linux
[10:45] <psneaveill> howdy
[10:45] <eyequeue> josh__, as in /topic?
[10:45] <josh__> im trying to do a kubutnu upgrade right now... will that reenable and fix the /etc/X11 config?
[10:45] <sethk> E-Jey_, if you really mean something specific to IIS, that's different
[10:46] <L1> Can you help me with a Dapper laptop login problem (50% ok, 50% hangs on login)
[10:46] <sparkleytone> btw, xserver-xorg-core package is fixed.  in case you want to update the topic
[10:46] <John[1] > Well it looked like it made all the updaes with no errors, now lets see if I get a ubuntu desktop
[10:46] <eyequeue> josh__, see /topic for the x problem
[10:46] <SKossu> Last Question hopefully, did ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 /build but it gives the error ln: accessing `/build': Too many levels of symbolic links    whats wrong? :S
[10:46] <josh__> oh
[10:46] <josh__> yeah
[10:46] <josh__> exactly
[10:46] <josh__> problem though
[10:46] <sethk> E-Jey_, best thing to do is to bring up a web page with thumbnails and examine the source
[10:46] <josh__> i cant see the whole topic
[10:46] <jvai> eye of gnome & gthumb image viewer
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> josh__: type /topic
[10:46] <josh__> i am using the f2 screen with irssi
[10:46] <eyequeue> josh__, see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/57153
[10:46] <E-Jey_> I mean a tool to create a the simple HTML page automatic. Under windows I always used ACDsee for that
[10:46] <josh__> yeah... doesn't help because i have no browser right now
[10:47] <eyequeue> josh__, use lynx
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> SKossu: the 5 link depth has been reached.
[10:47] <josh__> lynx...?
[10:47] <frfx2> eyequeue: ok..i will download the alternate..thanks for your help.but you said there were 3cds.which is the 3rd?
[10:47] <eyequeue> josh__, sudo apt-get install lynx, you will need it for next time
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> E-Jey_: apt-cache search gallery -- pick one :)
[10:47] <eyequeue> lynx (1)             - a general purpose distributed information browser for the World Wide Web
[10:47] <josh__> ok
[10:47] <SKossu> fyrestrtr: What should I do? im a newbie :(
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> E-Jey_: try galrey
[10:47] <DarkRain> Hello, x is rather broken, I followed the link in topic, and it says there is a fix released. wondering what this fix is... since yeeeah. I have no computer at the moment
[10:47] <josh__> dont run off... i might need to ask you some more questions ;P
[10:47] <John[1] > I did the install ubuntu desktop command and rebooted, now I'm back to the command prompt.  Any ideas on what could have did wrong?
[10:47] <eyequeue> frfx2, livecd, alternatecd, servercd
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> SKossu: why are you even running that command?
[10:47] <eyequeue> frfx2, you may want that server :)
[10:48] <E-Jey_> oke, thanks for the reactions
[10:48] <lamego> John[1] , have you read the topic about the xorg bug ?
[10:48] <John[1] > no
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> DarkRain: fix is circulating among the servers. sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, then restart the pc.
[10:48] <SKossu> fyrestrtr: because of: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[10:48] <SKossu> rt2500.ko failed to build!
[10:48] <josh__> ok i have to wait for my kubuntu-desktop to finish installing
[10:48] <frfx2> eyequeue: what is difference between alternate and server? alternate is just text mode?
[10:48] <josh__> there isn't a chance that will fix the problem will it?
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> SKossu: what are you installing? Module for what?
[10:48] <josh__> going from gnome to kde desktop?
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> josh__: what problem?
[10:48] <SKossu> fyrestrtr: patching my wlan
[10:48] <eyequeue> frfx2, alternate allows gui installs, server is just server
[10:49] <DarkRain> fyrestrtr: thanks ill shut down the live disc and check it out
[10:49] <eyequeue> frfx2, server might be smaller, i forget
[10:49] <Flannel> frfx2: server ONLY installs a server, its got a LAMP preconfigure option, and some specialized server kernels.  Alternate can install the desktop, or a text-only thing
[10:49] <josh__> the gdm problem
[10:49] <eyequeue> Flannel!
[10:49] <Flannel> eyequeue!  what?
[10:49] <eyequeue> Flannel, you came up in the CC meeting earlier, but were offline
[10:50] <frfx2> eyequeue+flannel: thanks for your help
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> SKossu: you might need to pass an argument to the /configure script and tell it to look for the headers in /usr/src/linux-headers-your-kernel-version
[10:50] <eyequeue> Flannel, glad to see you here :)
[10:50] <Flannel> I know, I was there until :10, then my ISP went down for three hours.  Pisses me off, since I don't think I can make it to the next.  You have a log?  It's not posted online yet.
[10:50] <Flannel> eyequeue: woke up early to make it and everything ;)
[10:50] <SKossu> fyrestrtr: Okay, gotta ask my friend for help though, its my first day with Linux so I have no idea what im poking at :P
[10:50] <eyequeue> Flannel, i think you're up for the next one, in ... two weeks, let me see if i do
[10:50] <SKossu> fyrestrtr: thanks for tip though
[10:51] <ruskie_> !non-free
[10:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about non-free - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:51] <ruskie_> !flash
[10:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:51] <Flannel> ruskie_: it's called multiverse in Ubuntu
[10:51] <Flannel> eyequeue: well, I'm up, it's in the middle of the day, but I've got class
[10:51] <John[1] > what commands do I need to issue to get my software updated and then be able to install the desktop in dapper?
[10:52] <josh__> so all we have to do is a distupgrade to fix the gdm?
[10:52] <Flannel> John[1] : what is your current setup?
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> John[1] : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:52] <Flannel> unless you already have ubuntu-desktop (of some sort) installed, in which case install that first, then update
[10:53] <bkudria> i am trying to get my sl-modem to work...but kppp says "unable to connect to modem"...what is wrong?
[10:53] <eyequeue> Flannel, dcc it to you?  email?
[10:53] <John[1] > is that all one command
[10:53] <L1> Can you help me with a Dapper HP laptop login problem (50% ok, 50% hangs on login)
[10:53] <josh__> buy a non hp
[10:53] <josh__> ;P
[10:54] <josh__> ok im gonna try this dist upgrade thing... ill talk to yall later
[10:54] <OpossumJack> HELP!!!!!!I've just downloaded the last upgrade for x.org and now It doesn't start. It keeps on saying: "No device found"...HELP!!!!
[10:55] <lamego> OpossumJack, read the topic
[10:55] <ruskie_> OpossumJack, topic
[10:55] <strangy> OpossumJack, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241254
[10:55] <janbanan> I have a Microsoft explorer mouse with 5 buttons(one scroll). how do i install this properly? is there any guides
[10:56] <jordanau> i have xserver bak up and running thanks to lynx, irssi, and y'all... Thank you
[10:57] <paladinhugo> I have my X back.. how can I uninstall the latest kernel?
[10:57] <OpossumJack> strangy, thanks a lot... I'm gonna try it right now.
[10:57] <John[1] >  I issued all those commands and it ran through some things and then prompted me for my cd, I put it in and it is now working downloading stuff from the cd.
[10:58] <eyequeue> paladinhugo, sudo dpkg --purge packagename
[10:58] <jordanau> Paladine, what do you mean uninstall latest kernel? is that necessary to completely fix the broken x patch?
[10:58] <lenovo> hello has anyone here performed a pxe installation?
[10:58] <John[1] > Now I get a error that says failed to fetch some some archives and I see a file mismatch error.
[10:58] <eyequeue> jordanau, no, he was messing with the kernel, i guess thinkiing it would be the fix ... you don't need to
[10:58] <paladinhugo> package name with the .deb?
[10:58] <bkudria> i am trying to get my sl-modem to work...but kppp says "unable to connect to modem"...what is wrong?
[10:59] <eyequeue> paladinhugo, no, nothing after the _
[10:59] <L1> Can anyone help me with a Dapper HP laptop login problem (50% ok, 50% hangs on login)
[10:59] <ENE|Toxic> Is there a way I can find out if I'm using 400 or 533Mhz memory? (Othen then in bios | physically looking | /proc/meminfo | lshdw | hwdetect)
[10:59] <jordanau> eyequeue, after downgrading, i just need to avoid uprgrading till i here it is fixed right?
[10:59] <eonox> how do i search for a string in vi?
[10:59] <paladinhugo> I've compiled the kernel and installed kernel-headers-2.6.16-ck12_ck12_i386.deb
[10:59] <eyequeue> paladinhugo, package_debianversionubuntuversion.deb, just pacakge
[10:59] <OpossumJack> ufff...
[11:00] <eyequeue> jordanau, yes, though you can let "...ubuntu10.4" install
[11:00] <lamego> eonox, google.com look for a vi quickreference card
[11:00] <pedaz> hallo loom
[11:01] <John[1] > Can I use scp to issue these commands man this gets to be a chor typing all this stuff in.
[11:01] <loom> hey pedaz. english please :)
[11:01] <Minty> can someone please remind me the line so that I can edit my grub file
[11:01] <sethk> John[1] , probably.  you can also use shell loops, make a script file, etc.
[11:01] <eyequeue> paladinhugo, in that example, package name is kernel-headers-2.6.16-ck12 for example
[11:01] <paladinhugo> thx
[11:02] <paladinhugo> I've done it already
[11:02] <lenovo> has anyone here performed a pxe install?
[11:02] <SKossu> bah this is too wierd, soon time for windows again
[11:02] <Flannel> lenovo: You read the wiki?
[11:03] <lenovo> yes i need some help with an especific item
[11:04] <SKossu> Im trying to patch my wlan and its saying this: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[11:04] <SKossu> rt2500.ko failed to build! what is the easiest way to fix it? Ive been stuggling with this for the past 3 hours
[11:04] <John[1] > I di those commands you gave me and I'm still not getting a ubuntu desktop.
[11:04] <Flannel> lenovo: what do you need help with?
[11:04] <lenovo> Flannel: i want to install many computers at the same time, but i need them to install new packages...with a kickstart...but the packages dont come by default with the install cd...I think i might need to setup a mirror myself
[11:04] <pedaz> after a recent xserver update it doesn't work anymore. in the xorglog i get the message "no devices detected" and in the next line "Fatal server error: no screens found " What should i do
[11:05] <Andy_Alpha> Hi! I have a problem with FireFox; it crashes every time I visit help.ubuntu.com (!). Any ideas. It says it's a "segmentation fault".
[11:05] <w30> pedaz, me too, help me too!
[11:05] <lamego> lenovo, you could setup an apt proxy
[11:05] <Flannel> lenovo: You can do that, yeah.  Setup a small repository locally, then you'll have LAN access times to those packages.
[11:05] <lenovo> lamego: ok how do i setup the apt proxy
[11:05] <pedaz> w30, i dont know what to do either
[11:06] <lamego> lenovo, I have done it with http replicator, but on the wiki there is a description by using the apt proxy package
[11:06] <John[1] > Now what is the fix for the installing ubuntu desktop on my server?
[11:06] <lenovo> lamego: ok thx...already reading about it
[11:06] <Flannel> John[1] : you have the web repositories enabled, right?
[11:06] <janbanan> How do I install my Microsoft explorer 5-button mouse?
[11:06] <w30> pedaz, I tried other xorg.confi files, both nvidia and nv driver setups but alas.
[11:06] <octan_> is ther a tool like kcron for gnome?
[11:07] <John[1] > Well not sure, how can I check?
[11:07] <Andy_Alpha> Hi! I have a problem with FireFox; it crashes every time I visit help.ubuntu.com (!). Any ideas. It says it's a "segmentation fault".
[11:07] <Flannel> John[1] : check your sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list) for a bunch of uncommented (comments with #) lines with urls in them ;)
[11:07] <alex_> Is the the correct place to come for ubuntu support?
[11:08] <Slaj_R> Can anyone tell me what is the best linux equivalent to programs like Nitro PDF, for combining pdf's into a single file, with page numbers, TOC, etc?
[11:08] <Flannel> alex_: yep
[11:08] <StephenL> Anyone know of a guide for setting up dual monitors on a dual head i810 card?
[11:08] <pedaz> w30,i tried to adjust the BusID of the device but i think that was a rather bad idea
[11:08] <StephenL> Right now it clones to the second monitor but I want it to extend to it.
[11:09] <pedaz> w30, i also tried to change the xorg.config file like you said but it didn't word
[11:09] <alex_> Can anyone help with a problem i am having installing a new video card. I am really new to hardware issues and i think it must be something stupid i am doing
[11:09] <John[1] > I'm a noob, how do I get there from the command prompt?
[11:09] <Flannel> John[1] : nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:10] <Flannel> John[1] : and ctrl-X to exit ;)
[11:10] <mnvl> or, John[1]  cat /path/filename prints a file to screen
[11:10] <pedaz> w30, i also unistalled the nividia-glx and installed it new. as to maybe it didnt communicate right with the new xserver, but that didnt work either
[11:10] <alex_> can anyone give me some help installing a video card
[11:11] <jvai> slaj, u can modify them in open office
[11:11] <psneaveill> Been having a problem with an older ATI video card that I've attempted everything anyone has suggested -- radeon, ATI and the fx* drivers
[11:11] <mnvl> or, John[1]  more /path/filename prints it a screen at a time, and waits for you to press space
[11:11] <psneaveill> am I missing something
[11:11] <w30> Does anyone in here have the inside track on the xserver update problem and can help me and pedaz
[11:11] <Andy_Alpha> Hi! I have a problem with FireFox; it crashes every time I visit help.ubuntu.com (!). Any ideas. It says "segmentation fault".
[11:11] <sethk> psneaveill, what problem are you having?
[11:12] <lamego> w30, have you read the topic ?
[11:12] <SKossu> Im trying to patch my wlan and its saying this: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop rt2500.ko failed to build! what is the easiest way to fix it? Ive been stuggling with this for the past 3 hours
[11:12] <John[1] > it looks empty
[11:12] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, what version of firefox?
[11:12] <psneaveill> the common one with the semirandom dots on the buttons
[11:12] <webguy> does anyone have any experience running php scripts under crontab
[11:12] <w30> lamego, no
[11:12] <pedaz> lamego, whats with the topic, i'm here for the first time
[11:12] <lamego> w30, do /topic , the problem is there
[11:12] <lamego> pedaz, .. /topic
[11:12] <fyrestrtr> webguy: plenty of people in ##php do
[11:12] <lamego> if you have problems related to the xorg update
[11:13] <pedaz> do /topic
[11:13] <alex_> can anyone help me with a video card issue
[11:13] <pedaz> how do we get there
[11:13] <John[1] > there is nothing in there.
[11:13] <alex_> How do you get your computer to boo the x-server when u install a new video card
[11:13] <mwe> SKossu: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) I guess
[11:13] <mnvl> John[1] , make sure you got the right one, lots of utilities will show you an empty file rather than warn you you got the name wrong
[11:13] <w30> lamego, so many people talking, my window scrolled it out of sight so quickly that I missed it ,sorry and thanks
[11:13] <psneaveill> with my system, I even attempted both the x-windows solution
[11:14] <psneaveill> when I try them, it craps me out to commandline
[11:14] <pedaz> w30, how can one get to the topic ????
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> pedaz: type /topic and hit enter
[11:14] <||arifaX> w30 see http://www.ubuntuusers.de/ikhaya/269/#more
[11:14] <fyrestrtr> pedaz: in your irc client
[11:14] <SKossu> mwe: I got the version of headers it wants :S
[11:14] <psneaveill> do /topic
[11:14] <Andy_Alpha> SETHK Version of FireFox is <IP_ADDRESS>.
[11:14] <BlueEagle> So it was xserver-xorg-core version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 that was the offending package that we should not upgrade to?
[11:15] <webguy> i guess the question is if the default php install on ubuntu is an executible
[11:15] <jvai> snaap. i'm on firefox 1.08 still!
[11:15] <SKossu> mwe: though its not where it wants them to be
[11:15] <mwe> SKossu: and is that version $(uname -r)? cause that's what it needs
[11:15] <SKossu> mwe: no idea, first day with linux
[11:15] <misieq> how do i set my ip to fixed? using command line tools?
[11:15] <Andy_Alpha> SETHK I removed it and installed again. Same problem again.
[11:15] <BlueEagle> webguy: the cli version of php is executable by default, yes. However the mod-php isn't being 'executed' per say. It's a module that is being loaded.
[11:16] <SKossu> mwe: ill give it a shot
[11:16] <mwe> SKossu: try sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) and see what happens
[11:16] <BlueEagle> webguy: Perhaps the real question is if mod-php is being loaded by apache by default after it's been installed?
[11:16] <webguy> blueeagle what is cli?
[11:16] <SKossu> wme: will do, thanks
[11:16] <BlueEagle> webguy: command line interface
[11:16] <Warbo> !cli
[11:16] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:16] <BlueEagle> webguy: ie. when you run php scriptname.php from the command line.
[11:17] <webguy> so how can i test if i can run a php from the command line
[11:17] <BlueEagle> webguy: The cli version and the apache module version are two different things.
[11:17] <fyrestrtr> webguy: type php -v
[11:17] <webguy> so how do i know if i have the cli version of the apache module set up?
[11:17] <BlueEagle> webguy: Well they are the same thing in two different formats. (the one is not the other but they are still the same if you see what I mean)
[11:18] <Warbo> Has anyone successfully installed kqemu? It used to work for me after installation, so I made a bootup script which reinstalled it every bootup, but even that doesn't work any more :(
[11:18] <webguy> fyrestrtr: got a command not found error
[11:18] <fyrestrtr> webguy: then you don't have the cli version. sudo apt-get install php5-cli will fetch it for you.
[11:18] <Minty> can I merge my two swap partitions into one ??
[11:19] <webguy> fyrestrtr: so i can have both the command line version and the apache version running at the same time on the same box?
[11:19] <fyrestrtr> webguy: sure
[11:19] <sethk> Minty, you can delete both and create one big one, yes
[11:19] <Warbo> Minty: You can use two, or jsu tdelete them both and make a new one which is the size of both
[11:19] <Warbo> *just delete
[11:20] <John[1] > Okay, I'm in the sources.list.  What do I need to add or comment out?
[11:20] <Minty> Warbo: OK how do I delete them and make a new one ??
[11:20] <Andy_Alpha> is there a shortcut for switching between workspaces?
[11:20] <kminor> hey fellas, i know that ubuntu is based of debian, but what are the main differences inbetween the two in general and as far as configuration and capability?
[11:20] <webguy> great - what about the other modules i installed eralier with the apache version such as php5-imap and php-mcrupt
[11:20] <Warbo> Minty: You need to run "sudo swapoff /dev/partitionname" fisrt, to stop them being used
[11:20] <fyrestrtr> Andy_Alpha: ctrl+alt+left and right arrow keys
[11:20] <baconbacon> Minty : if you want to use two swap partitions at once, it works well
[11:20] <jackn> where do I get a quitting message
[11:20] <Andy_Alpha> thx
[11:20] <fyrestrtr> webguy: these are not 'apache versions' both will use them.
[11:20] <webguy> do i need to reinstall them both on the new cli?
[11:20] <psneaveill> why the need for two swaps
[11:20] <webguy> excellent!
[11:20] <lamego> kminor, the release cycle, community, etc, etc
[11:21] <eyequeue> jackn, you type it
[11:21] <eyequeue> jackn, /quit foo
[11:21] <sethk> psneaveill, there is no need for two swaps.  I assume he needs more space than he allocated for a single swap
[11:21] <Minty> baconbacon: I have two as I have just installed 64bit paralel with a 32 bit vesion and two seems untidy
[11:21] <kminor> lamego: any advantages? disadvantages?
[11:21] <jackn> eyequeue and how does it know it's 'quit'?
[11:21] <Warbo> kminor: Other than the release shedule and the choice of versions for GCC, etc. I would say they are technologically the same
[11:21] <Minty> Warbo: after sudo swapoff /dev/partitionname I do what ??
[11:22] <eyequeue> jackn, the irc client has a command, /quit, and it has an optional operand, typically
[11:22] <Warbo> Minty: You realise that "/dev/partitionname" should be replaced with your swap partitions, yes?
[11:22] <psneaveill> thanks deth
[11:22] <sethk> kminor, I wouldn't say ubuntu is based on debian.  It just uses debian's package management
[11:22] <psneaveill> thanks seth
[11:22] <bengine> please can someone help me
[11:22] <lamego> kminor, well, I would start a war, there is people which prefer debian, others ubuntu
[11:22] <webguy> fyrestrtr: worked like a charm
[11:22] <SKossu> wme: thanks, it fixed it :)
[11:22] <jackn> eyequeue thanks a lot. Where can I see a listing of these commands, please?
[11:22] <webguy> !!! thanks
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <eyequeue> jackn, unless your client is bx, then it has a billion annoying ones progrmmed in and causing bloat, heh
[11:22] <bengine> i've got a stupid question
[11:22] <bengine>  how can i write ascii char into the shell?
[11:22] <Warbo> sethk: And just happens to import it's packages from Debian?
[11:22] <Minty> sudo swapoff /dev/hda5 for instance
[11:23] <baconbacon> Minty, ok but I remind you you wont be able to hibernate one and boot the other (it's minor but useful in my case)
[11:23] <sethk> Warbo, "import"?  how do you mean import?
[11:23] <ninu> ubuntu.it
[11:23] <eyequeue> jackn, in irssi, /help ... most console clients as well
[11:23] <sethk> Warbo, you don't import packages.
[11:23] <jackn> eyequeue don't know what it is, it's in gaim.
[11:23] <Warbo> sethk: Universe is basically Debian recompiled
[11:23] <Minty> baconbacon:  thanks I never hibernate
[11:23] <Warbo> I'm not saying that is a bad thing, by the way
[11:23] <lamego> kminor, I personally tried both, found Ubuntu easier to  setup and to keep, providing more recent versions of the software I need (this compared with debian stable)
[11:23] <eyequeue> jackn, there was once a site called irchelp, .org maybe?  see if it still exists and has a list
[11:23] <Crescendo> How would I go about setting up 5.1 channel audio on Ubuntu?
[11:24] <sethk> Warbo, there are a lot of things in debian that don't have packages in the ubuntu repositories.
[11:24] <Andy_Alpha> Check an odd bug: my firefox (<IP_ADDRESS>) crashes every time I visit help.ubuntu.com (!), no less. Any ideas?
[11:24] <fyrestrtr> what software is used on launchpad?
[11:24] <jackn> eyequeue Thanks, /help worked.
[11:24] <John[1] > Can someone tell me what to add or comment out in the sources.list to get me fixed up?
[11:24] <harisund> !sources
[11:24] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:24] <Warbo>  MintyOK, if you have turned them both off then I think the easiest way to delete them and make a new one would be in GParted
[11:24] <bengine> warbo
[11:24] <bengine>  how can i write ascii char into the shell?
[11:24] <eyequeue> fyrestrtr, i think custom stuff called "launchpad" now :)  it's a recent thing that it was all-custom
[11:24] <fyrestrtr> !easysource > John[1]
[11:24] <sethk> bengine, type it
[11:24] <Warbo> bengine: I don't know
[11:24] <biscon> ZOMGWTFBBQ MY UBUNTU JST B0RK3D JUST START WITH BLACKSCREEN WIHT FUNNY TEXT, HELPZER PLZ! GIEF CODE TO FIX!!1
[11:24] <bengine> ok
[11:24] <bengine> tnx
[11:24] <olli> Hello there! I need help with some weird xserver issue. anybody?
[11:25] <bengine> for example
[11:25] <sethk> bengine, do you mean one that doesn't have a key attached to it?
[11:25] <Warbo> !xorgbug
[11:25] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')
[11:25] <lamego> biscon, stop joking
[11:25] <eyequeue> fyrestrtr, all FOSS though, to their pride :)  i'm sure there has to be a d/l link, though i've not seen it
[11:25] <kminor> lamego: does it have the same packages? or have the same packages available for apt?
[11:25] <olli> hello ubotu
[11:25] <biscon> lamego: can't fool anyone these days :(
[11:25] <fyrestrtr> eyequeue: would like to see the magic behind that thing.
[11:25] <Minty> Warbo:  so if I do sudo swapoff /dev/hda5 && sudo swapoff /dev/hda6 what next ?
[11:25] <jvai> lol
[11:25] <bengine> can someone please help me
[11:25] <bengine>  how can i write ascii char into the shell?
[11:25] <Warbo> Minty: Are the partitions next to each other?
[11:25] <lamego> kminor, no, they do have common packages for some software, but usually they have different versions
[11:25] <biscon> bengine: what seems to be the problem good sir?
[11:26] <sethk> bengine, again, do you mean a character that doesn't have a key assignment?
[11:26] <Minty> I fairle sure yes
[11:26] <denver> will someone tell me whaat `sudo rm -rf /` does?
[11:26] <eyequeue> fyrestrtr, i saw an annoucement about it recently, but i think there is, let me check.  sec...
[11:26] <sethk> denver, destroys your entire system
[11:26] <Andy_Alpha> I have an odd bug: my firefox (<IP_ADDRESS>) crashes every time I visit help.ubuntu.com (!), no less. Any ideas?
[11:26] <sethk> denver, do NOT do that
[11:26] <Warbo> I heard that Launchpad isn't all Free Software, which is why it hasn't been adopted by that many distros yet
[11:26] <bengine> yes sethk
[11:26] <bengine> tnx
[11:26] <eyequeue> denver, gets you banned?
[11:26] <denver> my friend told me to run it
[11:26] <jvai> ben, right clik w/ the mouse in the shell, it'll give u options
[11:26] <sethk> bengine, you can easily write a small program that echoes any character, and you supply the character as an argument
[11:26] <harisund> denver, "friend" you say?
[11:26] <eyequeue> denver, wrong
[11:26] <baconbacon> Warbo, youll need to back that
[11:27] <sethk> bengine, be a four or five line program
[11:27] <eyequeue> denver, not a friend
[11:27] <Warbo> Minty: System>Admin>GNOME Partition Editor
[11:27] <jackn> denver It forces (f) removal of all files in a directory (r;recursively). Dangerous. Be sure...
[11:27] <bengine> i c
[11:27] <denver> :P
[11:27] <frodon> olli, here is a small fix before the official fix in the repos : http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/EmergencyDapperXorgFix
[11:27] <eyequeue> fyrestrtr, #launchpad has 53 in it :)  they'd know
[11:27] <Warbo> baconbacon: Forgot where I saw it, but correct me if I am wrong
[11:27] <olli> Thanks frodon. I already fixed it
[11:27] <jackn> Denver with friends like that...
[11:27] <yyy>
[11:27] <jackn> Denver In order to do what?
[11:27] <harisund> denver, rm deletes files and folders, -r deletes each folder and each folder inside that folder and so on .. -f deletes it without confirming it from you first. Finally the '/' tells it to start deleting from the top of your system, eventually working your way down to the entire system :)
[11:28] <eyequeue> denver, even mentioning it will get you banned from most linux related channels
[11:28] <denver> i will remember that
[11:28] <sethk> denver, your friend was either joking or being malicious
[11:28] <root_> is there a problem concearning an update of ubuntu ?
[11:28] <bengine> and how can i show every char
[11:28] <harisund> you know what eyequeue, one of these days I should try it out to see what actually happens :)
[11:28] <Warbo> Minty: Use that to delete the partitions, then apply the changes, then make a new one, then apply the changes and close it (remember the /dev/XXXX name for it though)
[11:28] <Minty> wardo don't have that
[11:28] <bengine> ?
[11:28] <olli> not with me
[11:28] <root_> i cant start xwindows ???????
[11:28] <eyequeue> root_, don't irc as root, and yes, see /topic
[11:28] <baconbacon> !xorgbugfix > root_
[11:28] <Warbo> Minty: OK, "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[11:28] <sethk> bengine, you could easily do that in a program as well.
[11:28] <fyrestrtr> eyequeue: got my answer from the ... faq :)
[11:29] <kminor> lamego: does ubuntu have kismet?
[11:29] <sethk> bengine, just send each character between 32 and 127
[11:29] <lamego> dezonioes, read the topic
[11:29] <sethk> bengine, below 32 are generally not displayable
[11:29] <eyequeue> fyrestrtr, a download link there too?
[11:29] <lamego> kminor, it does
[11:29] <jsilva> Hi all
[11:29] <dezonioes> i havent got a browse that works ^_^
[11:29] <dezonioes> r
[11:29] <eyequeue> !info kismet
[11:29] <chris86wm> has the whole update fiasco been fixed yet?
[11:29] <ubotu> kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2005.08.R1-1.2 (dapper), package size 910 kB, installed size 2408 kB
[11:29] <biscon> sethk: space is :)
[11:29] <jsilva> is it safe to upgrade xserver-xorg-core now?
[11:29] <fyrestrtr> eyequeue: I wish, but I got the info I was after. Its a zope app.
[11:29] <harisund> Did anyone here care to create a survey or have a count of how many people have logged into IRC today and asked about the Xserver fix?
[11:29] <olli> does anybody know where virtual resolutions can be stored?
[11:29] <biscon> sethk: ehm nevermind
[11:29] <sethk> biscon, space is 32
[11:29] <eyequeue> dezonioes, sudo apt-get install lynx
[11:29] <lamego> kminor, version 2005.08.R1-1.2
[11:30] <olli> it is safe to update xorg-core with ubuntu now
[11:30] <eyequeue> fyrestrtr, ah
[11:30] <Qball> me still thinks its funny
[11:30] <Warbo> harisund: You could grep -c the logs...
[11:30] <olli> i did it right away
[11:30] <fyrestrtr> harisund: the logs would be one place to look.
[11:30] <lamego> olli, it depends wether your repositories are updated or not
[11:30] <Andy_Alpha> I have an odd bug: my firefox (<IP_ADDRESS>) crashes every time I visit help.ubuntu.com (!), no less. Any ideas?
[11:30] <harisund> ah .. ok Warbo and fyrestrtr.. will do ..
[11:30] <biscon> sethk: aye
[11:30] <olli> well mine are
[11:30] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, I asked before, what version of firefox do you have
[11:30] <jsilva> ok
[11:30] <kminor> lamego: is ubuntu better, worse or just as good as debian and other distro's to run on a laptop, i have a vaio, and i had spent a full day configuring Nvidia drivers and ipw2200 drivers
[11:31] <eyequeue> kminor, i prefer it, and have run both
[11:31] <eyequeue> !better
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about better - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <fyrestrtr> kminor: if your laptop has crap hardware, no distribution will work. I have a well supported laptop, and all distros that I have tried have installed without a hitch.
[11:31] <Andy_Alpha> SETHK <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:31] <sethk> kminor, I think ubuntu is easier to set up on a laptop with wireless, but if it is already configured with debian, stay with debian
[11:31] <IndyBC> Hello. Can I (with apt-get) get a package and its dependencies, as .deb?
[11:31] <dezonioes> how can i open a second shell window ?
[11:31] <webguy> well i tired running one of my scripts that works fine via the web (i.e. apache) and got this error "Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /home/feingold/httpdocs/staffasap/dbConnect.inc.php on line 23"
[11:31] <magnus[1] > are the ubuntu forums down?  I cant get it to load, and the new xorg update killed my xserver
[11:31] <eyequeue> kminor, better is opinion though
[11:31] <fyrestrtr> dezonioes: ctrl+alt+f2
[11:31] <jvai> thnkpads r the best for linux
[11:31] <webguy> any reason why it wouldn't work via the executiable?
[11:31] <olli> I know of many people having problems with debian on a laptop
[11:31] <Warbo> kminor: I would say Ubuntu would be better, since Ubuntu seems to have a focus on the desktop/laptop, so driver issues and things get sorted better and are easier
[11:31] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, I'm running <IP_ADDRESS>, but I've not heard of a problem with .5
[11:32] <IndyBC> Because I want to transfer them to another pc, that it has not internet connection.
[11:32] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, try removing it and reinstalling it.
[11:32] <SeanTater> IndyBC: I think so
[11:32] <eyequeue> magnus[1] , "killed" your "server"?  server with x?  weird server
[11:32] <IndyBC> SeanTater, ok, how? :)
[11:32] <lamego> kminor, ubuntu is known to be one of distros having better support for desktop use (include laptop), anyway you should do some research first, I am not sure abou the ipw2200 drivers, i don't use them...
[11:32] <Andy_Alpha> SETHK already did; didn't help
[11:32] <SeanTater> IndyBC: ah -- not the dependancies too
[11:32] <eyequeue> magnus[1] , /topic
[11:32] <hextor> hello: following question. I installed ubuntu on a laptop, with a small 500Mb home drive. Idea behind is that all data is elsewhere. After installing some programs, the home directory is getting full however. I thought that stuff went into the root partition. Did I did something wrong / is there any way to change that? thanks!
[11:32] <magnus[1] > eyequeue - it wont load
[11:32] <SeanTater> IndyBC: just the first one
[11:32] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, you are installing with apt-get?
[11:32] <Minty> Warbo: swapoff: /dev/hda5: Invalid argument
[11:32] <eyequeue> magnus[1] , what won't load?
[11:32] <harisund> does DHCP use TCP or UDP?
[11:32] <IndyBC> SeanTater, oh, ok :-(
[11:32] <magnus[1] > xserver wont
[11:32] <sethk> harisund, udp
[11:32] <SeanTater> IndyBC: try googling, there as one that does
[11:32] <eyequeue> magnus[1] , known.  /topic
[11:32] <Warbo> Minty: Are you sure that is your swap? Maybe check with "fdisk -l"
[11:32] <Andy_Alpha> SETHK No. Well...  With Synaptic
[11:33] <lamego> hextor, programs data does not go into /home
[11:33] <SeanTater> IndyBC: I've heard of ti
[11:33] <sethk> harisund, actually, just raw ip, but that is effectively like udp
[11:33] <lamego> hextor, check your trash
[11:33] <SeanTater> IndyBC:  /it/
[11:33] <IndyBC> SeanTater, I did, but I didn't find anythin.
[11:33] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, that's the same thing, synaptic or apt-get
[11:33] <harisund> sethk ah ... is that perhaps why my DHCP server shows no result on an nmap?
[11:33] <magnus[1] > eyequeue - thanks
[11:33] <sethk> harisund, yes
[11:33] <fyrestrtr> Andy_Alpha: I am on .5, and I don't have that problem.
[11:33] <harisund> sethk sweet.. thanks .. :)
[11:33] <eyequeue> magnus[1] , sudo apt-get install lynx, if you can't read the url in console
[11:33] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, you can install the version from mozilla.org
[11:33] <IndyBC> SeanTater, so, there isn't any way to get a package and its dependencies at once?
[11:33] <Andy_Alpha> SETHK I knew it. Then yes... I did. Is that a problem?
[11:33] <lamego> hextor, du -sk $HOME/.*  $HOME/*
[11:33] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, not normally.  try installing the one from mozilla.org, see if the behavior changes
[11:33] <magnus[1] > eyequeue - im on a different comp (lappy)
[11:34] <magnus[1] > thx though
[11:34] <hextor> lamego: nothing of consequence there
[11:34] <eyequeue> magnus[1] , gotcha
[11:34] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, the one from the package should work, but knowing whether the one from mozilla.org works gives a pointer as to what may be wrong
[11:34] <eyequeue> magnus[1] , you'll want lynx for the next breakage though ;)
[11:34] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, or, of course, if the one from mozilla.org doesn't work, that's also useful info
[11:34] <SeanTater> IndyBC: yes, but you have to know which dependancies the dependancies need and so on, and on top of that, which ones that the /other/ computer needs..
[11:34] <magnus[1] > hahaha
[11:34] <SeanTater> IndyBC: I've seen it before, but I don;t know it's name
[11:35] <Andy_Alpha> SETHK Mozilla.org? Sounds like mozilla-firefox, not firefox... :) OK THX
[11:35] <sethk> Andy_Alpha, no, firefox is a mozilla.org project
[11:35] <jvai> i'm blowing off jvava.. for now :(
[11:35] <Warbo> Netscape>Mozilla>Firefox+Thunderbird
[11:35] <graveson> i am copying .mp4 files to a dvd using k3b but when insertng the dvd  for playback i am not able to automount or play the dvd's ,however i can play the same files on a disk
[11:35] <livingdaylight> I need help
[11:36] <livingdaylight> i'm in deep deep ****
[11:36] <Minty> Warbo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21434
[11:36] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, i believe you
[11:36] <livingdaylight> eyequeue: no, really
[11:36] <psneaveill> spill it living
[11:36] <Warbo> Minty: Ah, I will give it a go but my web browsing seems to like timeouts today...
[11:36] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, details might get you some though., heh
[11:36] <livingdaylight> i don't have xorg.conf
[11:36] <Minty> NP if not I try tomrrowa as getting late*
[11:37] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, read the /topic yet?
[11:37] <livingdaylight> my computer suddenly stopped running in X
[11:37] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, known issue, /topic
[11:37] <Warbo> livingdaylight: read the topic ^^^^
[11:37] <SeanTater> livingdaylight: read the topic
[11:37] <livingdaylight> oh, shit
[11:37] <livingdaylight> sorry
[11:37] <jackn> livingdaylight, do /topic
[11:37] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, sudo apt-get install lynx, if you need it, to read the url in the /topic
[11:37] <hextor> lamego: I dont understand.. the partition is 490MB, when I do properties in home it says 90.7MB are used and 43MB are free ... where is the missing space?
[11:37] <magnus[1] > eyequeue - ha it was as simple as update / upgrade
[11:38] <magnus[1] > i didnt realize they'd have the fix out now
[11:38] <magnus[1] > i updated originally last night
[11:38] <magnus[1] > but never rebooted
[11:38] <eyequeue> magnus[1] , now, though hours ago it was worse, heh
[11:38] <Warbo> Minty: Looks like they can be merged easily
[11:38] <eyequeue> magnus[1] , that reboot was the gotcha
[11:38] <hextor> what will .. du -sk $HOME/.*  $HOME/*  do?
[11:38] <lamego> hextor, where do you see the "used space" ?
[11:38] <magnus[1] > i knew when i saw the update last night that i shouldnt reboot if i was gonna need my workstation
[11:38] <magnus[1] > just for safety's sake
[11:38] <Warbo> Minty: How many times did you run swapoff? Maybe it gave an error because you already turned it off...
[11:38] <lamego> how did you noticed your /home is full ?
[11:38] <magnus[1] > but thanks
[11:38] <hextor> lamego: in the disks manager, on the partitioninformation
[11:38] <imperfect-> Anyone here good with Ubuntu PPC ?
[11:39] <imperfect-> or ubuntu on powermacs
[11:39] <hextor> lamego: plus it tells me 42MB available
[11:39] <Minty> Warbo: iah not sure
[11:39] <SeanTater> hextor: pastebin what df says
[11:39] <livingdaylight> Folks, so all i gotta do is install that file?
[11:39] <eyequeue> lamego, my box routinely tells me /var is nearing full, maybe it checks /home too?  dunno
[11:39] <livingdaylight> Is there hope for me?
[11:39] <SeanTater> livingdaylight: probably is
[11:39] <Andy_Alpha> SETHK There's a problem; I have AMD64. There's no FireFox for AMD64 on mozilla.org
[11:39] <livingdaylight> eyequeue: please tell me
[11:39] <SeanTater> livingdaylight: enjoy
[11:39] <psneaveill> uodate/upgrade are your friends
[11:39] <lamego> hextor, I wouldn't trust a partition manager to check for the disk used space :)
[11:39] <livingdaylight> SeanTater: i'm really stressed over this
[11:39] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, you can do this, you'll be okay :)
[11:39] <tuxtux> ciao
[11:40] <lamego> hextor, do you have /home on a split partition ?
[11:40] <SeanTater> livingdaylight: i get that way too -- you'll survive
[11:40] <hextor> lamego: lol well but nautilius shows 42Mb free anyhow.. yes, home is in a separate 500MB partition
[11:40] <livingdaylight> You guys are the best
[11:40] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, go fixx it, then come back and reassure others :)
[11:40] <Minty> Warbo: in G parted I can disactivate hda5 one and delete hda6
[11:40] <sutabi> fyrestrtr: I tried the update and it still didn't give me the /build directory in my kernel of 2.6.15-26
[11:40] <Warbo> Minty: Check in System>Admin>System Monitor and go in Resources. See how much swap is available, that will tell you whether it is being used
[11:41] <lamego> hextor, what about "df" ?
[11:41] <Minty> warbo swap zero
[11:41] <wasabi_> Anybody aware of a program to check what type of memory is installed?
[11:41] <lamego> I don't trust GUIs :)
[11:41] <wasabi_> pc133, etc.
[11:41] <livingdaylight> eyequeue: not exactly sure what i am to do?
[11:41] <wasabi_> I know there are such utilities for Windows, so I suspect there's something for Linux
[11:41] <Warbo> Minty: OK, then you should be able to delete both partitions
[11:41] <hextor> (what is df?)
[11:41] <eyequeue> wasabi_, i call that "screwdriver" heh ... no, i don't know of any
[11:41] <jackn> Minty, or the command 'free'
[11:41] <lamego> wasabi, try: lshw
[11:41] <livingdaylight> eyequeue: i'm reading the link in the topic but still not sure
[11:41] <Warbo> Minty: Or even jsut delete hda6 and resize hda5
[11:41] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, are you on that box now?  sudo apt-get update
[11:41] <baconbacon> hextor: hextor, as lamego said, please check (or post to pastbin) the output of "df" (disk free?)
[11:42] <lamego> hextor, is the standar "disk free" checking program for linux/unix
[11:42] <lamego> type i on a terminal, df
[11:42] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, then sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:42] <livingdaylight> eyequeue: i'm using a live distro
[11:42] <Minty> warbo that I can do with gparte
[11:42] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, then reboot
[11:42] <Minty> doing now
[11:42] <wasabi_> lshw did the trick
[11:42] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, write the two commands down then
[11:42] <marshall_> lamego:  lol dont trust guis
[11:42] <matt____> which repo do i need for wine
[11:42] <Warbo> Minty: I think you have to apply any changes which are going to "overlap", ie. you cannot create a partition in some empty space if you have not yet created the empty space
[11:43] <livingdaylight> eyequeue: update and upgrade?
[11:43] <eyequeue> !info wine
[11:43] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[11:43] <hextor> ok here it goes...
[11:43] <hextor> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[11:43] <hextor> /dev/hda2              4806936   3069324   1493424  68% /
[11:43] <hextor> varrun                  193136       132    193004   1% /var/run
[11:43] <hextor> varlock                 193136         4    193132   1% /var/lock
[11:43] <hextor> udev                    193136       160    192976   1% /dev
[11:43] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, with "sudo apt-get " in front of them, yes
[11:43] <hextor> devshm                  193136         0    193136   0% /dev/shm
[11:43] <hextor> lrm                     193136     18856    174280  10% /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile
[11:43] <hextor> /dev/hda6              1720268    129476   1590792   8% /datashare
[11:43] <hextor> /dev/hda3               460532    386034     49928  89% /home
[11:43] <hextor> /dev/hda1              4097488   2713616   1383872  67% /media/hda1
[11:43] <Warbo> !pastebin
[11:43] <eyequeue> !pastebin > hextor
[11:43] <hextor> /dev/hdc                126520    126520         0 100% /media/cdrom0
[11:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:43] <Minty> warbo HDA6 deleted what would be good size for the had5, wnowing that I have 2 gigs of ram
[11:43] <livingdaylight> eyequeue: sure, of course, but i can't believe x broke and now it'll be fixed just by upadating and upgrading
[11:43] <hextor> (cool, thanks)
[11:43] <eyequeue> hextor, shall we forgive you this once, or hate you forever?
[11:44] <sethk> livingdaylight, why?
[11:44] <marshall_> hextor:  please dont paste into the channel
[11:44] <hextor> (hey i have 1 week with ubuntu!! - looks innocently)
[11:44] <livingdaylight> eyequeue: the thing is my friend had me remove X and xorg.conf files
[11:44] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, it was a much harder fix earlier, but the new file has propagated to the mirrors now
[11:44] <sutabi> Anyone know how I can get the lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build <-- the build folder? I need it for my ndiswrapper
[11:44] <Warbo> Minty: 2GB RAM? You might not need swap unless you hibernate a laptop... (I have 5GB, but I bought a 250GB HD and went crazy :) )
[11:44] <sethk> livingdaylight, that wasn't smart
[11:44] <sethk> livingdaylight, even if that was the problem, that's the wrong way to try to fix it
[11:44] <livingdaylight> sethk: i know, it was a despeatate move
[11:44] <eyequeue> hextor, paste single lines, but pastebin for floods like that
[11:45] <marshall_> has anybody tried silc?
[11:45] <Warbo> Minty: Since you already have your drives set up you may as well extend hda5 as much as possible
[11:45] <lamego> hextor, you have 386MBs used fore sure
[11:45] <Minty> I never or verry rairly hibernate will set 1 GB for swap
[11:45] <livingdaylight> sethk: we tried all sorts of other things and for some reason the thought this was the way to go
[11:45] <eyequeue> marshall_, nice protocol, but i haven't used it in months
[11:45] <Minty> Warbo: ok then it will be 2 gigs
[11:45] <treitter> are the "amd64" CDs meant even for the Intel 64-bit machines? (in this case a dual-processor Xeon 3 GHz)
[11:45] <livingdaylight> sethk: what can i do now?
[11:45] <eyequeue> marshall_, nice devs too :)
[11:45] <marshall_> eyequeue:  silc?
[11:45] <lamego> hextor, install baobab
[11:45] <eyequeue> marshall_, yeah
[11:45] <marshall_> eyequeue:  what exactly is it?
[11:46] <Warbo> Minty: Just apply any changes then exit GParted, the rest is easy in a terminal
[11:46] <livingdaylight> sethk: ?
[11:46] <Warbo> (I mean after you have resized hda5 :) )
[11:46] <sethk> livingdaylight, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:46] <eyequeue> marshall_, i used the plugin for irssi .... secure internet live chat,   ... for irssi, it's basically "encrypted irc" though not irc protocol at all ... but it also handles non-text, any transmissions really
[11:46] <jackn> ubotu You seem to paste ready messages. How do you do this, if I may?
[11:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about You seem to paste ready messages. How do you do this, if I may? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <sethk> livingdaylight, that should reconstruct your x configuration
[11:47] <marshall_> eyequeue:  oh wicked
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> jackn: you are talking to a bot.
[11:47] <Warbo> !ubotu > jackn
[11:47] <marshall_> eyequeue:  thanks mate
[11:47] <eyequeue> marshall_, does that answer it, or am i just babbling?  see silc.org too
[11:47] <jackn> Is ubotu a robot?
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> yes
[11:47] <livingdaylight> sethk: so i should sudo apt-get update and then upgrade and then do the xserver.xorg thing?
[11:47] <nekostar> yes
[11:47] <Minty> Warbo: need to reboot as suggest by gparted do I have to any thing in terminal before reboot ??
[11:47] <eyequeue> jackn, good catch :)
[11:47] <fyrestrtr> !ubotu
[11:47] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:47] <nekostar> o:
[11:47] <sethk> livingdaylight, yes, I'd say that's your best option
[11:47] <Warbo> Minty: One thing
[11:47] <nekostar> sudo shutdown -r now
[11:47] <hextor> lamego: feels better now that people believes him (lol)..   ok installed now
[11:47] <nekostar> :D
[11:47] <RogerRabb> how can I read the first line from a file?
[11:47] <nekostar> <3 -r
[11:47] <Warbo> Minty: "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[11:47] <livingdaylight> sethk: i been doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver xorg up to now unsuccessfully
[11:48] <lamego> hextor, run it, check your /home contents
[11:48] <jackn> Warbo thanks
[11:48] <eyequeue> RogerRabb, head -1 filename
[11:48] <webtoe> RogerRab head -1
[11:48] <profoX`> RogerRabb: cat file | head -n 1
[11:48] <nekostar> livingdaylight,
[11:48] <RogerRabb> thanks :)
[11:48] <nekostar> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:48] <livingdaylight> nekostar: yes?
[11:48] <nekostar> note the -
[11:48] <sethk> livingdaylight, if you have the bad update and you are getting no screens found, it will work
[11:48] <lamego> hextor, Applications -> Accessories -> Baobab
[11:48] <nekostar> :)
[11:48] <jackn> Roger head -1 filename
[11:48] <profoX`> oh no head -1 is easier :)
[11:48] <nekostar> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:48] <sethk> livingdaylight, after you get the new fixed package (which is, actually, the old package)
[11:48] <Sleeping_Sloth> hello, very quick question. what is the best graphical tracroute package anyone knows of?
[11:48] <sutabi> fyrestrtr:  the sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-386
[11:48] <sutabi> didn't install the /build directory I needed
[11:48] <sethk> livingdaylight, as several people have said, use sudo for the dpkg-reconfigure
[11:48] <Minty> trevor@trevor-ubuntu:~$ gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:48] <Minty> (gedit:6971): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[11:48] <Minty> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[11:48] <nekostar> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:48] <lamego> sethk, are you sure it's the old package :) ?
[11:49] <BitSpider> http://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!
[11:49] <BitSpider> http://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!
[11:49] <BitSpider> http://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!
[11:49] <BitSpider> http://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!
[11:49] <BitSpider> http://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!
[11:49] <BitSpider> http://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!
[11:49] <LoRez> Warning: `BitSpider' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[11:49] <BitSpider> http://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!
[11:49] <sethk> lamego, not positive, that's second hand
[11:49] <nekostar> ~_~
[11:49] <livingdaylight> sethk: geez what a mess ubuntu have got us into
[11:49] <Warbo> Minty: Yes, don't pay any attention to that
[11:49] <BitSpider> http://spider-tracker.tx.hu << uj torrent oldal ! new torrent page!
[11:49] <profoX`> kick.
[11:49] <eyequeue> livingdaylight, you can do this, you'll be okay :)
[11:49] <BitSpider> v
[11:49] <kyja> :/
[11:49] <nekostar> well
[11:49] <nekostar> fukkit
[11:49] <profoX`> kickban BitSpider
[11:49] <Minty> Warbo: ok the gedit is open
[11:49] <lamego> sethk, I got the information that it was fixed, not reverted :)
[11:49] <Lobster> n8
[11:49] <kyja> spider is going to get bit lol
[11:49] <jackn> Bitspider>pastebin
[11:49] <nekostar> Torrentek	34
[11:49] <sethk> lamego, could be correct, as I said, I was too lazy to check myself
[11:49] <livingdaylight> nekostar: ? what did you want to tell me?
[11:49] <nekostar> first
[11:49] <nekostar> its german
[11:49] <nekostar> second its small
[11:49] <nekostar> dont bother with the tracker
[11:49] <nekostar> livingdaylight,
[11:49] <Andy_Alpha> This is unbelievable! All my web browsers crash when I load help.ubuntu.com!!
[11:49] <Warbo> Minty: Look for any lines to do with hda5/hda5/swap. basically make sure it isn't trying to use hda6, and that it knows about hda5
[11:49] <nekostar> copy paste what i put
[11:49] <eyequeue> lamego, there were two patches in the update, one was pulled out and it was released as the fix
[11:50] <nekostar> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:50] <Warbo> *hda5/hda6/swap
[11:50] <livingdaylight> nekostar: what?
[11:50] <marshall_> i think bitspider was a bot
[11:50] <nekostar> do that exactly and youll have no problem
[11:50] <nekostar> ~_~
[11:50] <nekostar> marshall_, indeed
[11:50] <lamego> eyequeue, ok :)
[11:50] <Minty> Warbo: dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[11:50] <hextor> lamego; ok now we are getting to the topic... it says wine: 150MB, .mozilla 55MB, winetools 42MB, .kde 23MB, .listen 12MB,  the other things are small
[11:50] <Minty> Warbo: no hda6 in lines
[11:50] <psneaveill> !<Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon 7500] >
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon 7500]  - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <lamego> the 992 was pulled out :P
[11:50] <treitter> does anyone know about the bugs with Ubuntu 6.06.1 server install on an IBM xSeries 346?
[11:50] <hextor> lamego: shouldnt WINE and comp have gone to the root directory?
[11:50] <livingdaylight> nekostar: sorry, i missed your paste, what exactly should i do?
[11:50] <kyja> why doesn't midi files play. I dont understand that.
[11:50] <nekostar> copy paste that into terminal
[11:50] <kingwolf> Is there a PDF editor/writer application?  I've found plenty of viewers..but none that allow me to edit.
[11:50] <lamego> hextor, oh,, wine.. wine does install on your home :)
[11:50] <chalcedny> where do i need to go to get support for my HP all-in-one print fax scanner on ubuntu? It's not printing every other line/
[11:50] <nekostar> kyja, u need more codecs
[11:51] <hextor> lamego: hmmm cant windows avoid being evil at least on a simulation??
[11:51] <Warbo> Minty: Then you are OK. If you are rebooting then you may as well boot into the other Ubuntu system and check it's /etc/fstab file (I think it would point to hda6)
[11:51] <livingdaylight> nekostar: you haven't told me what to copy and paste?
[11:51] <lamego> hextor, lol
[11:51] <kingwolf> !adobe
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <nekostar> livingdaylight,
[11:51] <Andy_Alpha> This is unbelievable! All my web browsers crash when I load help.ubuntu.com!!
[11:51] <nekostar> sorry bro
[11:51] <kyja> well I installed tons. mp3 work even movies that you would not expect
[11:51] <nekostar> but if i put something in red
[11:51] <nekostar> and bold
[11:51] <chalcedny> kingwolf, i'd love it if you got that.. you can MAKE pdfs with either OpenOffice or AbiWord
[11:51] <nekostar> and repeatedly tossed it in this window
[11:51] <nekostar> and you still have a question
[11:51] <psneaveill> !<Radeon RV200>
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Radeon RV200 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <jackn> Kingwolf -writer (open office) will edit any text, and then export it as pdf!
[11:51] <Sleeping_Sloth> doesna nyone know of a good graphical traceroute program for TCP/IP ?
[11:51] <eternalswd> anyone know if xampp has an irc channel?
[11:51] <nekostar> i cant help
[11:51] <nekostar> !radion
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <nekostar> !radeon
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radeon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <nekostar> psneaveill,
[11:52] <Minty> warbo and if so I change the hda6 to Hda5 yes ??
[11:52] <hextor> lamego: is there any way to move wine out of here? even reinstalling/
[11:52] <Warbo> kingwolf: PDF is designed to be non-editable. You can create them in OpenOffice, Abiword, whatever
[11:52] <nekostar> u need help with driver ?
[11:52] <Warbo> Minty: Exactly
[11:52] <livingdaylight> sorry, nekostar, i'm using a live distro and xchat is not what it usually is, I did not see anything in red here addressed to me
[11:52] <Warbo> Minty: And that is it! :)
[11:52] <nekostar> livingdaylight, live distro ?
[11:52] <alex-weej> What the crack is it with the NOT AUTHENTICATED stuff in APT?
[11:52] <chalcedny> kingwolf, you could 'select all' and paste to oo.
[11:52] <alex-weej> Sick of seeing it!
[11:52] <sutabi> anyone know how I might obtain "kernel-build" for 2.6.15-26
[11:52] <nekostar> why not start over with your problem
[11:52] <kingwolf> chalcedny, jackn, Warbo Can I edit a pre-existing form?  Like an application using Openoffice?
[11:52] <nekostar> alex-weej, using backports ?
[11:53] <Minty> rebooting
[11:53] <alex-weej> nekostar: no, all standard repos. It happens infrequently and an update fixes it.
[11:53] <chalcedny> kingwolf, see our previous posts.. paste to OO and then edit happily
[11:53] <nekostar> dunno then alex-weej sorry
[11:53] <lamego> hextor, you can move to another partition, and just creat a link to it
[11:53] <livingdaylight> nekostar: yes, coz my X is dead, i'm using kanotix live to get online
[11:53] <jackn> Kingwolf, don't know, would try to open the pdf with writer. if it opens, you're good to go.
[11:53] <Warbo> kingwolf: The only way I know of is the digital equivalent of tipp-ex, ie. take a screenshot and put text boxes on top.......
[11:53] <hextor> lamego: you mean moving it "the hard way" as in copy/paste?
[11:53] <Sleeping_Sloth> nobody in here has used tracroute?
[11:53] <Sleeping_Sloth> *traceroute
[11:54] <hextor> lamego; if so, how do i create a link after that?
[11:54] <mwe> yes
[11:54] <chalcedny> Warbo, wow i hadn't thought of that .. how does one put 'text boxes' on top ?
[11:54] <livingdaylight> nekostar: and i'm not used to it. The background is all black and i didn't see anything you wrote to me, certainly not in black
[11:54] <kminor> hey guys
[11:54] <Warbo> chalcedny: Should be easy in a word processor
[11:54] <nekostar> it was in red livingdaylight but ok
[11:54] <livingdaylight> nekostar: give me another chance and tell me what you said
[11:54] <kminor> I downloaded an iso for Kubuntu and Xubuntu
[11:54] <nekostar> sure
[11:54] <nekostar> boot to hdd distro
[11:54] <jackn> Kingwolf: last resort: copy and paste the pdf into an open Writer document, and then pdf export it. Only if opening the pdf directly with Writer doesn't work. Will check.
[11:54] <nekostar> livingdaylight, :: sudo apt-get update
[11:54] <Warbo> or desktop publishing app like scribus
[11:54] <nekostar> livingdaylight, :: sudo apt-get install x-window-server-core
[11:55] <kminor> i usually run KDE so Kubuntu would be likely, but what's the diff inbetween regular Ubuntu and Kubuntu?
[11:55] <nekostar> !xorgbug
[11:55] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')
[11:55] <chalcedny> Warbo, hmmmm (i prefer vim..)
[11:55] <nekostar> !xorgbugfix
[11:55] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[11:55] <Warbo> kminor: KDE. That is it
[11:55] <treitter> is it possible to do a 32-bit install, and then switch over to using 64-bit packages?
[11:55] <nekostar> livingdaylight, :: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
[11:55] <kminor> Warbo : doesnt regular ubuntu have kde and gnome?
[11:55] <nekostar> livingdaylight, :: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:55] <chalcedny> kminor, kubuntu = kde
[11:55] <nekostar> nyaa ?
[11:56] <sutabi> anyone know how I might obtain "kernel-build" for 2.6.15-26
[11:56] <psneaveill> thanks for the input -- gotta go
[11:56] <kminor> chalcedny: yeah i know that but I thought ubuntu the normal edition had kde and gnome, or does it have a diff. interface?
[11:56] <crunch> hey
[11:56] <janbanan> My internet connection is running very slow with ubuntu compared to windows. why is that?
[11:56] <Warbo> kminor: Ubuntu as a distro has GNOME, KDE, XFCE, Fluxbox, E16, etc. "Kubuntu" is just a sub-distro which comes with KDE by default. The package repos are the same, the packages used are available to all, it is just the defaults which are different
[11:56] <chalcedny> Warbo, kewl ty
[11:57] <kminor> Warbo: oh kool, thnx....so just more kde packages set default then eh?
[11:57] <Flannel> !tell janbanan about ipv6
[11:57] <cynical> janbanan: what browser do you use?
[11:57] <Warbo> I am in favour of bringing all officially endorsed Ubuntu distros under the name "Ubuntu"
[11:57] <janbanan> firefox
[11:57] <sethk> kminor, there really isn't a "normal edition".  you can use any desktop with ubuntu
[11:57] <crunch> i have just installed ubuntu to an old computer, but it will only run by command line
[11:57] <kminor> word
[11:58] <crunch> how can i get the gui up?
[11:58] <livingdaylight>  nekostar so, copied that down. And in that order
[11:58] <Thunderpants> whats ur sys specs crunch ?
[11:58] <Warbo> kminor: If by "more" you mean more than zero, then yes. Ubuntu and Kubuntu are the same, but Kubuntu has some Ubuntu packages installed which Ubuntu doesn't, and doesn't have some Ubuntu packages which Ubuntu has installed bu default.  (Wine directory)
[11:59] <crunch> yeah i get some error saying the graphics card doesn't recognise something
[11:59] <Warbo> crunch: I would just try to get a bare X session going first. If that works then you may be able to get by with TWM or something...
[11:59] <alex-weej> hextor: symlink
[11:59] <livingdaylight> nekostar: install x-window-server-core followed by xserver-xorg-core and then reconfigure, yes?
[11:59] <jvai> nubuntu fo ru
[11:59] <jvai> nubuntu has fluxbox by default
[12:00] <janbanan> Flannel: It says that it don't support old hardware but I don't have old hardware. should I turn it off anyway?
[12:00] <zombiekiller> DCC SEND<PHONE_NUMBER>00000000000
[12:00] <Thunderpants> crunch, give it up mate

[12:00] <crunch> ok i don't know what bare x is
[12:00] <crunch> i have the command line
[12:00] <crunch> but i don't know it
[12:00] <bkudria> i am trying to get my sl-modem to work...but kppp says "unable to connect to modem"...what is wrong?


[02:00] <pleia2> who all is here for the meeting?
[02:01] <grantbow> o/
[02:02] <pleia2> I'm going to go grab a drink, then we can begin :)
[02:03] <akk> o/
[02:11] <eps> Anyone here?
[02:11] <akk> eps: pleia2 and grantbow and I have checked in so far.
[02:12] <akk> We're in the "get a drink first" stage of the meeting.
[02:12]  * akk got hot cocoa
[02:12] <grantbow> eps: you now, welcome
[02:12] <eps> I can't seem to reach any of the west coast freenode servers.
[02:17] <pleia2> #startmeeting
[02:17] <darthrobot`> Meeting started Mon May 20 02:17:19 2013 UTC.  The chair is pleia2. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[02:17] <pleia2> hello everyone! :)
[02:17] <pleia2> #agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/13May19
[02:17] <darthrobot`> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/13May19 - Ubuntu Wiki]
[02:17] <pleia2> so we only really have one item
[02:17] <pleia2> #topic Call for mailing list (and other resource) admins
[02:18] <pleia2> currently myself and grantbow are the mailing list admins
[02:20] <pleia2> could use more if anyone has mailman experience and is willing to log in and clear out spam a couple times a week :)
[02:20] <akk> I don't have much mailman experience, but I can probably help with cleaning out spam.
[02:21] <pleia2> cool, I'll drop you an email with some instructions post-meeting
[02:21] <pleia2> thanks akk!
[02:22] <pleia2> we also have identica, twitter, facebook and g+ resources
[02:22] <pleia2> g+ isn't really maintained at all :\
[02:22] <pleia2> identica posts to twitter, and we manually put links on facebook
[02:22] <grantbow> akk: thanks :-)
[02:22] <pleia2> while I was gone this didn't really get done, so we need some more folks active here
[02:22] <pleia2> (being gone for 3 weeks was a great trial of what I need to fix the bus factor on!)
[02:24] <akk> I've kinda given up on both fb and g+, they're both too hard to use.
[02:24]  * pleia2 nods
[02:24] <pleia2> I think I'll drop a mail to the list to see if we have any gurus out there :)
[02:24] <pleia2> maybe someone who even likes social media!
[02:24]  * grantbow gasps!
[02:24] <akk> heh
[02:25] <pleia2> #topic Raring release
[02:25] <pleia2> so we had no release events as far as I can tell
[02:26] <eps> Virtual and half as long. ;-)
[02:26] <pleia2> uh huh :)
[02:27] <pleia2> are there any events this summer that we can participate in to make up for it?
[02:27] <pleia2> no picnic :(
[02:27] <akk> awww :(
[02:28] <eps> MarkDude hinted at something.
[02:28] <grantbow> geeknic.org
[02:28] <pleia2> yeah, and jono has mentioned he might be able to bbq for a picnic at some point
[02:28] <akk> A series of geeknics, hopefully.
[02:28] <pleia2> grantbow: not seeing one for this area
[02:29] <grantbow> not yet
[02:30] <pleia2> well, something to think about then
[02:30] <pleia2> #topic other business
[02:30] <pleia2> anyone else have anything?
[02:34] <pleia2> ok, we can wrap up then :) thanks everyone
[02:34] <pleia2> #endmeeting
[02:34] <darthrobot`> Meeting ended Mon May 20 02:34:56 2013 UTC.
[02:34] <darthrobot`> Minutes:        http://ihas.5cat.com/~darthrobot/ubuntu-us-ca/2013/ubuntu-us-ca.2013-05-20-02.17.moin.txt
[02:35] <grantbow> thanks!


[03:28] <dmcglone> Hi everyone
[03:28] <dmcglone> Anyone here use dydns?
[03:28] <Cheri703> I use no-ip
[03:29] <dmcglone> did you buy your domain?
[03:29] <Cheri703> no, I just create a hostname with their free ones
[03:29] <Unit193> Hey dmcglone I use dyn
[03:29] <Cheri703> blah .no-ip.info
[03:30] <dmcglone> I finally decided to sign up for dydns and is says I can get a free domain, but I have to update it monthly to avoid expiration
[03:30] <Unit193> You can just use a auto update
[03:30] <dmcglone> Unit193 are you using the free services
[03:30] <Unit193> Yes I am
[03:30] <dmcglone> is it a pain in the butt?
[03:31] <Unit193> Nope
[03:31] <dmcglone> is it .com .net or .org domains?
[03:31] <Unit193> I have my router update it every time my IP changes
[03:32] <dmcglone> how do you do that?
[03:32] <Unit193> I don't have a example.com one
[03:32] <Unit193> Tomato
[03:32] <dmcglone> so what would my ip look like if I decided to go with the free one?
[03:33] <dmcglone> I mean my domain, not my ip....lol
[03:33] <Unit193> dmcglone.dyndns(or other).com
[03:33] <Unit193> I use homelinux.com
[03:33] <dmcglone> so it's possible to use a .com address right?
[03:34] <Unit193> not dmcglone.com (unless you pay)
[03:34] <Unit193> Does that answer?
[03:35] <dmcglone> yes. do you keep yours private?
[03:35] <Unit193> private?
[03:35] <dmcglone> not tell anyone about it
[03:37] <Unit193> Not much
[03:37] <Unit193> I can PM
[03:37] <Unit193> One of mine was last updated "Apr. 19, 2009 5:42 PM"
[03:37] <dmcglone> I'm just wondering
[03:37] <Unit193> :D
[03:38] <dmcglone> I'm just wondering if it'll be worth the hassle
[03:38] <Unit193> It's not hard... if you use SSH you will love it!
[03:39] <dmcglone> thats what I'm sortof afraid of
[03:41] <Unit193> what part?
[03:42] <Unit193> Your choices kinda stink:https://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/domains.html
[03:44] <dmcglone> they sure do
[03:45] <dmcglone> I'd rather write a php script that would send my phone a message each time my IP changes and just use the IP to access the computers :-)
[03:45] <Unit193> I got it before it went bad (about 4 hosts with better hostnames homeip, selfip, homelinux)
[03:59] <dmcglone> well I chose buddy.dydns.biz and it doesn't seem to work
[04:00] <dmcglone> Try it and see what you get
[04:01] <dmcglone> oops
[04:01] <Unit193> 149.250?
[04:01] <dmcglone> I got it
[04:02] <dmcglone> it's dyndns, I was typing dydns
[04:04] <dmcglone> cool works for me
[04:04] <dmcglone> :-)
[04:04] <Unit193> 13.121?
[04:05] <dmcglone> whats that?
[04:05] <dmcglone> looks like my ip
[04:05] <dmcglone> that was my ip
[04:06] <Unit193> yep!
[04:06] <dmcglone> I'm working on that site
[04:08] <Unit193> Tri-City is on your ip?
[04:08] <Cheri703> tri city?
[04:09] <dmcglone1> had to restart router
[04:09] <Unit193> Cheri703: The question was aimed at dmcglone
[04:09] <Unit193> On his IP http
[04:10] <dmcglone1> Unit193 I missed the question
[04:10] <dmcglone1> I lost internet for a minute
[04:11] <Unit193> "Tri-City is on your ip?"
[04:11] <dmcglone1> Yeah, i am building that website
[04:12] <dmcglone1> Am I still here?
[04:12] <Unit193> Sorry, I had to check it out
[04:12] <dmcglone1> weird
[04:12] <Unit193> yes you are
[04:12] <dmcglone1> Ah my server went down
[04:13] <dmcglone1> dang
[04:13] <dmcglone1> thats why dmcglone left the room
[04:14] <Cheri703> Unit193: tri-city is for my friend :)
[04:16] <Unit193> I remember you guys talking about that....
[04:16] <dmcglone> okie
[04:17] <dmcglone> tried to get up and tripped on the power cord and unplugged the puter
[04:17] <dmcglone> lol
[04:17] <Cheri703> heh
[04:17] <Unit193> That's not good
[04:18] <dmcglone> it never fails to happen to me
[04:18] <Unit193> When doing anything with comp h/w do you ever forget to plug in the power cord? (that seems to be the only one I forget)
[04:19] <dmcglone> I have to plug mine is, my batter can't hold a charge and I can't afford one right now
[04:19] <dmcglone> lol
[04:20] <Unit193> I'd be lucky to be able to get linux on the laptop that I have...
[04:23] <dmcglone> why so?
[04:23] <Unit193> Really bad resources (128RAM, 500MHz)
[04:24] <dmcglone> Use DSL
[04:24] <dmcglone> or Mint
[04:24] <dmcglone> or use a light desktop on gnome
[04:24] <Unit193> Mint isn't small
[04:24] <Unit193> lubuntu?
[04:24] <dmcglone> I'm not sure about that one
[04:24] <dmcglone> something like fluxbox on gnome
[04:25] <Unit193> I'm slowly looking for one (mainly use desktops)
[04:26] <dmcglone> I see. Cheri703 seen the website so far?
[04:27] <Unit193> Really looking into Lucid Puppy (I want to use debian/ubuntu based)
[04:27] <dmcglone> I don't blame you. apt rocks!
[04:28] <Unit193> One website that finds a distro for what you need said I should use fedora or OpenSuse (fedora's sys reqs don't even match)
[04:29] <dmcglone> Geez OpenSuse would probably burn your processor up and literally blow up the mem sticks... LOL
[04:33] <dmcglone> Well I'm gonna head to bed
[04:33] <Unit193> Didn't plan on using either (might glance at fedora)
[04:33] <Unit193> bye~!
[04:33] <dmcglone> fedora is all right, but no apt
[04:33] <dmcglone> I'll catch you later


[20:05] <ghavil> Is anyone aware if there are cloud images published that by default come with the 'linux-<cloudprovider>-lts-22.04' kernel package setup instead of the 'linux-<cloudprovider>' package? i.e. I'd like to run with https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy-updates/linux-aws-lts-22.04 (kernel 5.15) by default instead of https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy-updates/linux-aws (kernel 6.2).


[12:08] <tjaalton> niub: it got pulled out of the archive aiui
[13:56] <xnox> doko:  thanks
[13:57] <xnox> doko:  normally, i just run the ./debian/create-boost-defaults-control.py against boost1.74. cause that generates fresh debian/control with all the non-i386 things copied from the main package.
[13:58] <xnox> that way one "just" has all the right things in boost1.xx and boost-defaults is generated from that.
[15:57] <niub> tjaalton I saw that but still, who installed it and still has it installed might got issues and realized too late what’s the problem
[15:59] <niub> It sounds fair to me releasing an official statement in which is explained what’s the regression and what are the related risks