[11:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> anyone else getting no responce from packages,ubuntu.com search ?
[11:08] <hads> Looks like I can't reach it from here.
[11:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. ah well
[13:23] <ph8> hi all - i've just finished my degree! So now i can concentrate on ubuntu server a bit, i'm signed up on launchpad etc for a while now - i've got a strong background in server admin, php/perl/python webapps, database admin and other bits and pieces - anyone got any idea what i should start on? i'd love some mentoring if available
[13:23] <Birthday_Kaiser> wd :)
[13:24] <ph8> thanks :)
[13:24] <Birthday_Kaiser> what did you do it in?
[13:24] <ph8> Software Engineering
[13:24] <Birthday_Kaiser> fancy
[13:24] <Birthday_Kaiser> ;)
[13:24] <ph8> Computer science for two years then you specialise into agile methods and the like
[13:26] <Birthday_Kaiser> wd :)
[13:26] <ph8> do you work on server?
[13:27] <Birthday_Kaiser> no, i just use it at work
[13:28] <ph8> I use it on my machines also :)
[13:28] <ph8> love it, apart from all the initial hardy issues
[13:29] <ph8> Say, you don't know of anything that i can install on all my servers to enable a nice 'server online, uptime:, load:' type display on one terminal machine do you?
[13:29] <Birthday_Kaiser> not sure i follow exactly
[13:29] <ph8> a sort of status display for all your machines, but from your home pc, for example
[13:30] <ph8> presumably you'd need a special daemon or ssh login access to all machines for it to work
[13:31] <Birthday_Kaiser> i'm not aware off the top of my head
[13:32] <ph8> just something i fancied, might make one
[14:10] <ph8> hmm, i'm trying to install daily-current on a virtual machine (KVM) and the installer freezes at the language selection screen (not the first language selection screen, but the one in the installer itself) - any idea why? / how to install some other way?
[15:14] <Zyna> ehlo@all
[15:15] <bicz> moin
[15:15] <Zyna> deutsch?
[15:15] <Zyna> deutscher chan?
[15:16] <bicz> eheh
[15:16] <bicz> nain :)
[15:17] <Zyna> I'm in the process of setting up a postfix+dovecot with ssl/tls and am experiancing problems while getting amavis to work. when telnetting myself to send a testmail I get amavais: ACCESS DENIED FROM my.pub.ip, policy bank ' ' in /var/log/mail.log the messages then drops and never reaches the inbox... can anyone help?
[15:54] <axisys> if I change the date will it stick after the reboot?
[15:54] <axisys> ^ using date command that is
[15:54] <JanC> Zyna: I use postfix + dovecot + TLS/SSL, but I gave up on Amavis very fast
[15:55] <JanC> (I don't like software that I have to restart every day)
[15:55] <Zyna> what do you use instead?
[15:56] <JanC> nothing yet (my mail client(s) filter at least as good as any server could)
[15:58] <JanC> and I want to find a good solution for client <-> spam marking before I implement anything else
[15:58] <JanC> but I'm talking about a personal server of course
[15:59] <JanC> I mean "client <-> server spam marking"
[16:04] <JanC> I use bogofilter client-side, but I would like to implement it server-side, except there seems to be no easy way that I know to do so which integrates with common mail clients...
[16:06] <nandersson> Anybody knows how to get Eclipse 3.4 into Ubuntu 8.04 without breaking the repository?
[19:18] <todd_dsm> I was logging in today to see what the best method is for installing X/GNOME on the 8.04 Server, configuring, then removing the UI and going back to bash. I'm not quite to the place yet, with linux, where I can do it all from command line. I can't seem to dredge a howto from the forums. If anyone can help that would be awesome. Thanks!
[19:23] <ScottK-laptop> todd_dsm: The best method is don't, but if you really want to, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, do your stuff, sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop, sudo apt-get autoremove.
[19:26] <todd_dsm> I understand that there are security concens heading down this road but I don't know what they are. Is installing the UI in this way, then uninstalling it, the (rough) equivalent to never having had it in the first place? Are the other cleanup tips, etc?
[19:26] <ScottK-laptop> Rough equivalent yes.
[19:27] <ScottK-laptop> It'll leave config files, but that should be about it.
[19:27] <ScottK-laptop> Any new users created will remain too.
[19:28] <todd_dsm> You sounded like you had a valid concern when advising not to. I hate to ask but could you elaborate a little more in this area. I do plan to remove the UI and be back to command line only after configuration.
[19:29] <ScottK-laptop> It's fine to do it, but it's better to learn how to manage your system without it.
[19:30] <ScottK-laptop> I found as I was learning the hard way that I gained a much better understanding of my systems and am a much better admin for it.
[19:31] <todd_dsm> I completely agree. I like knowing that a bash prompt on a server in my house will be similar to one as a server half way around the world: one skill set for all computers.
[19:32] <todd_dsm> I'm just trying to dump all of the windows stuff faster than my learning curve is allowing for my comfort.
[19:34] <emgent> heya dendrobates :)
[19:35] <todd_dsm> thanks for the help, now I have a plan. Cheers, mate!
[19:35] <emgent> ScottK-laptop: around ?
[19:36] <ScottK-laptop> Yes.
[19:36] <JanC> todd_dsm: if this is a local system, try the desktop version first, and once you feel comfortable enough on the commanline, do a reinstall
[19:37] <emgent> ScottK-laptop: We can backport libfprint, pam-fprint and fprint-demo in hardy?
[19:38] <ScottK-laptop> emgent: The packages don't currently exist in Hardy?
[19:38] <emgent> I backported this packages in ubuntu-flybook PPA for Hardy, but i`d like see it in Universe.
[19:38] <emgent> ScottK-laptop: only in intrepid
[19:39] <ScottK-laptop> emgent: So all the build-deps are present in Hardy?
[19:39] <emgent> sure
[19:39] <ScottK-laptop> !backports | emgent
[19:39] <todd_dsm> I always feel icky when I re-install. Reason being I'm in QA professionally. When I don't find proper root-cause, fix, and retest, I feel like I'm being lazy :) I also feel that, on a linux system, the learing will never end. I'm just trying to embrace the process in the right method.
[19:40] <ScottK-laptop> emgent: Report the backports bug, say they build, install, and run in the bug and then ping me.
[19:40] <emgent> i will open bug, thanks ScottK-laptop.
[19:42] <todd_dsm> I hope that didn't sound too snooty(?)
[19:43] <todd_dsm> thanks for the help - peace!
[19:43] <JanC> todd_dsm: the reason why I suggested a re-install was re-starting from a clean install
[19:44] <todd_dsm> I got you ;)
[19:44] <JanC> you can of course try what ScottK-laptop suggested (removing X etc.)
[19:44] <JanC> but it's never as "clean"
[19:45] <todd_dsm> ideally, I would like to go with the first method. realistically, I will probably end up using yours, lol
[19:45] <ScottK-laptop> todd_dsm: Generally reinstall isn't needed.  I've got systems upgraded 4 times now from since I switched to Ubuntu.
[19:45] <todd_dsm> I'm all about clean too ;)
[19:45] <JanC> there's nothing wrong with restarting after a trial period
[19:45] <ScottK-laptop> The only one I've had to reinstall due to a problem, I was explicitly doing something unsupported to see if it would work.
[19:46] <JanC> but like ScottK-laptop says, I generally do upgrades from whatever version was installed on a system  ツ
[19:46] <todd_dsm> that's good to know. I don't expect to be in undocumented/supported territory for a long while.
[19:46] <todd_dsm> roger that-
[19:47] <todd_dsm> thanks guys, I'm out
[19:53] <ScottK-laptop> sommer: I made some comments on your mail-spf-perl MIR.  Very good first effort.  Please keep going.
[19:54] <sommer> ScottK-laptop: cool thanks, I wasn't sure on the clamavspamassasin page who to assign it to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClamavSpamassassinInMain
[19:55] <nxvl> sommer: i was just about to write you an e-mail
[19:55] <ScottK-laptop> sommer: You, since you're doing it.
[19:55] <ScottK-laptop> That's to keep two people from working on the same one at the same time.
[19:56] <nxvl> sommer: for the next step, after augeas reach the archive i was going to make a call for lensers (people to write lenses) for which i'm writing a document on how to do it
[19:56] <sommer> ScottK-laptop: okay, maybe I'm confused about that... so the assinee is just the one writing the MIR?
[19:57] <ScottK-laptop> sommer: Yes.
[19:57] <sommer> ScottK-laptop: I guess I thought there was a packaging step to MIRs and since I'm not MOTU or coredev :)
[19:57] <ScottK-laptop> Nope.
[19:57] <sommer> ScottK-laptop: gotcha... that simplifies things, heh
[19:57] <ScottK-laptop> Once it's ready (get all the depends done first) you subscribe ubuntu-mir to the bug and they look at it.
[19:58] <sommer> nxvl: cool, I'm not sure how much time I'll have to jump into another major project, but I should have time to at least take a look at it
[19:58] <sommer> ScottK-laptop: I'll update the page... and work on more MIRs this week
[20:00] <ScottK-laptop> Great.
[20:00] <ScottK-laptop> Let me know if you have questions or want a review.
[20:00] <sommer> will do, thanks
[20:06] <nxvl> sommer: yes, i was just wondering on where did you usually have the development docs
[20:06] <nxvl> sommer: so i don't break the standard
[20:11] <sommer> nxvl: I think wiki.u.c would be fine for that kind of thing... then you can link it from you spec
[20:14] <nxvl> sommer: so, there is no order that i can break for that?
[20:15] <sommer> nxvl: not sure what you mean by "order"... basically any development type documentation is fine for wiki.u.c, but if it's more how to it might be better for help.u.c
[20:16] <sommer> and on second thought help.u.c/community is probably the better place :)
[20:16] <nxvl> well, since it's for developers i don't think it would fit in help.u.c
[20:17] <nxvl> and by "order" i mean the standard scructure
[20:17] <sommer> nxvl: but isn't it "how" to develop?  by saying wiki.u.c is for developers I meant the development of Ubuntu, not necassarily development in general
[20:18] <nxvl> so i was wondering if you have some kind of structure (i.e. wiki.u.c/ServerTeam/Augeas/Lenses) which i should use
[20:18] <nxvl> is how to write lenses
[20:18] <nxvl> which are augeas specific parsers files
[20:19] <sommer> nxvl: I't probably use help.u.c/community/AugeasLenses
[20:19] <sommer> errr I'd
[20:19] <nxvl> sommer: ok, i take a look
[20:19] <nxvl> :D
[20:19] <nxvl> thanks!
[20:19] <sommer> np
[20:19]  * nxvl HUGS sommer
[21:22] <nxvl> \sh: have you upload lenov to you ppa?
[22:50] <belgacem23> howto install ubuntu server as a virtual machine with Virtual Box
[22:51] <belgacem23> the OS host is Windows Xp
[22:55] <JanC> belgacem23: just download the ubuntu server .iso?
[23:00] <belgacem23> I have downloaded Ubuntu-server-i386.iso ( 550.230.016 bytes), in text mode installation, the server is correctly installed as a virtual machine, but will not boot with the error message
[23:04] <belgacem23> " your CPU is not compatible with the kernel (0.6) " ?
[23:05] <belgacem23> I have a Pentium 4 CPU 3.0 Mhz and 1 GB of RAM splitted in two : 512 MB for the host and 512 MB for the guest OS (i.e : Ubuntu Server)
[23:06] <RoAkSoAx> belgacem23, try installing an older Ubuntu Server Version
[23:09] <belgacem23> Thanks, I will try to download Ubuntu Server 6.06 and install it.
[23:11] <JanC> every Ubuntu version I know has installed successfuly on a VM here ?
[23:12] <JanC> what host OS & VM software do you use?
[23:14] <belgacem23> I use Virtual Box 1.6.2 ( the last release from Sun ) as a VM Software and Windows XP SP2 as host operatin system.
[23:16] <belgacem23> I'am a student in informatic and I need to learn about the virtualization.
[23:16] <JanC> I've run Ubuntu 8.04 on Sun VBox 1.6.2 on WinXP SP2 last week, and it did work OOTB...
[23:19] <belgacem23> Actually I am studing about Windows Server 2003, and I wish to know an alternate SERVER.
[23:19] <belgacem23> I think that Ubuntu Server is a good choice.
[23:24] <belgacem23> I have run some versions of Ubuntu, 7.04, 7.10, the Solaris 10 , QNX, FreeBSD with the Virtual Box but I have not trayed to install them.
[23:24] <JanC> well, Ubuntu server has no GUI, which might be unusual for you, coming from Windows...
[23:25] <JanC> otherwise it should just work
[23:26] <JanC> (but I'm going to sleep now)
[23:26] <belgacem23> Good nigth !
[23:28] <belgacem23> Has anyone installed the Ubuntu Server 8.04 as a virtual machine with Virtual Box under Windows XP ?
[23:55] <belgacem23> Has anyone installed the Ubuntu Server 8.04 as a virtual machine with Virtual Box under Windows XP ?


[01:19] <spm> bac: sinzui: heyo (sorry was driving up to sydney) did you still need me to apply something?
[01:25] <jml> wuu Sydney
[01:29] <thumper> \o/ bzr-svn success https://code.staging.launchpad.net/~thumper/pydoctor/bzr-svn
[01:36] <jml> thumper, excellent :)
[01:39] <thumper> spm: hey, can losas turn a project into a project group?
[03:40] <spm> thumper: I believe so. not sure the rules around that atm...
[03:41] <spm> thumper: huh, chr can do them now as well.
[03:46]  * jml is back
[04:03] <bac> thumper, spm: you cannot convert a project into a project group.  CHR can now create project groups but the name must be free already, i.e. project of same name cannot exist
[04:04] <spm> ahh. ta, thanks bac
[04:04] <thumper> bac: it would be pretty cool to have a script that renames the project, makes the project group and copies across descriptions and things like that
[05:35]  * thumper EODs
[05:36] <jml> thumper, g'night.
[05:50] <jml> g'night all
[08:20] <adeuring> good morning
[09:10] <mrevell> Mornin' all
[10:14] <adiroiban> henninge: hi, is there a page listing all templates in Launchpad with the same name? I'm working at bug 435165 and beside a link to other templates from the source package, I would like to add a link to all templates with the same (if there is such page)
[10:14] <mup> Bug #435165: Make it easier to navigate to the full list of templates in source packages <trivial> <ui> <Launchpad Translations:In Progress by adiroiban> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/435165>
[10:15] <henninge> adiroiban: no, there is no such page.
[10:16] <henninge> adiroiban: but I know that on a templates page there is a list with links to templates with the same name.
[10:16] <henninge> * a template's page *
[10:16] <adiroiban> henninge: yes... but i think only first 4 tempaltes are listed
[10:17] <henninge> adiroiban: sure but it means that there is already such a query in the code. You could make the limit optional.
[10:21] <adiroiban> henninge: :) I don't like options :) ... there is still the UI problem how to display 30 templates
[10:22] <adiroiban> henninge: I think i will just go with solving that bug :)
[10:22] <adiroiban> without other changes
[10:29] <bigjools> wgrant: did you see a  build go through on DF of a 3.0 package?
[10:34] <wgrant> bigjools: I didn't. Is the builder fixed?
[10:34] <bigjools> should be
[10:35] <wgrant> bigjools: lamont suggested it wouldn't be done until today or Monday.
[10:35] <wgrant> bigjools: (lp-buildd needs patching for Karmic's dpkg)
[10:35] <bigjools> mmm oh, I thought he said he'd done it
[10:36]  * wgrant retries.
[10:37] <henninge> I think I have seen "AttributeError: 'thread._local' object has no attribute 'interaction'" before but cannot remember what is missing here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/339130/
[10:37] <wgrant> henninge: You're not logged in.
[10:37] <henninge> Anybody got an idea?
[10:37] <henninge> argh!
[10:38] <henninge> thanks wgrant, now I remember
[10:38] <henninge> ;)
[10:41] <bigjools> wgrant: "Couldn't find directory of bar_1.0-1.dsc in dpkg-source output"
[10:44] <wgrant> bigjools: Yep, that's the bug.
[10:44] <wgrant> (and as you can probably see, I forgot to flip it back to manual in time. oops)
[10:44] <bigjools> wgrant: that's what happens without the right dpkg?
[10:44] <wgrant> bigjools: dpkg-source's output changed in Karmic.
[10:44]  * wgrant finds the bug.
[10:45] <bigjools> ah
[10:45] <wgrant> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-buildd/+bug/476036
[11:00] <deryck> Morning, all.
[11:08] <bigjools> wgrant: I am going to bash a load of builds through DF to stress test some stuff, I'll need to make the builder auto again
[11:08] <bigjools> morning deryck
[11:08] <wgrant> bigjools: But the builder does not work (even for 1.0 sources)
[11:08] <bigjools> wgrant: oh, fuck sake
[11:08] <bigjools> this is not good
[11:09] <bigjools> pqm closes today and I need to QA stuff
[11:09] <wgrant> bigjools: The fixes are trivial, if you can get a sysadmin to either alter the regexps as lamont says, or downgrade dpkg
[11:09] <noodles775> bigjools: closes on Sunday I think, but not much different.
[11:10] <bigjools> noodles775: I worked every waking hour this week already, I don't want to work the weekend too :)
[11:10] <noodles775> totally. I was just clarifying when pqm closes :)
[12:02] <lamont> wgrant: applied, fwiw
[12:05]  * bigjools will test it when dogfood decides to wake up
[12:06] <bigjools> why does FF have to reload a page when going back one in the history.... ridiculous
[12:07] <lamont> "work offline", "back", "work online" maybe?
[12:10] <bigjools> apt-get install chromium maybe ;)
[12:11] <bigjools> well, not the game
[13:19] <henninge> sinzui: Hi!
[13:55] <sinzui> hi henninge
[14:13] <henninge> sinzui: ping, again
[14:13] <sinzui> hello
[14:13] <henninge> Hi
[14:14] <henninge> sinzui: I am not sure if I missunderstood something or if I just haven't grasped the workings of the zope/LP security system yet.
[14:14] <henninge> sinzui: but I am stuck and I wondered if you could help me.
[14:14] <sinzui> I hope I can
[14:15] <sinzui> you want to give ~registry launchpad.Edit on IAccount so that the status can be set to SUSPENDED?
[14:16] <henninge> I guess. Here is what I have done so far: http://paste.ubuntu.com/339233/
[14:16] <henninge> sinzui: what did we plan to use launchpad.Moderate for, then?
[14:17] <henninge> sinzui: so far I am only dealing with views
[14:17] <henninge> the page test is failing
[14:18] <henninge> like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/339192/
[14:18] <sinzui> henninge: That was flacoste's suggestion. To introduce a new permission, you need to modify the IAccount interface, separate the items you want ~regisrty to manage to a new interface. Add the new permissing and interface to the ZCML
[14:19] <sinzui> henninge: the paste looks like the ZCML rules are missing
[14:20] <henninge> sinzui: I only changed ther permission for +reviewaccount
[14:20] <sinzui> but not the underlying object
[14:21] <henninge> yes, the zcml requires lp.Edit for IAccount.
[14:21] <sinzui> you can load that view so long as the code/template does not access the attributes
[14:21] <henninge> I am trying to understand the error message
[14:22] <henninge> It says "launchpad.Moderate" is required to access this view but you don't have that.
[14:22] <henninge> right?
[14:22] <sinzui> The last text of the last line indeed says that
[14:23] <sinzui> Henning add this to account.zcml
[14:23] <sinzui>         <require
[14:23] <sinzui>             permission="launchpad.moderate"
[14:23] <sinzui>             interface="canonical.launchpad.interfaces.IAccountPublic" />
[14:23] <sinzui> oop
[14:23] <sinzui> do not do that
[14:25] <sinzui> Separate the attributes that you want ~registry to manage to an new interface named IAccountModerate, and add this to ZCML.
[14:25] <sinzui>         <require
[14:25] <sinzui>             permission="launchpad.Moderate"
[14:25] <sinzui>             interface="canonical.launchpad.interfaces.IAccountModerate" />
[14:25] <henninge> sinzui: don't I need a new interf...
[14:25] <henninge> ah, yes
[14:26] <henninge> sinzui: ok, I will do that.
[14:26] <henninge> but what about the error message?
[14:26] <henninge> If that was the problem here, I'd expect a message about IAcount, not about the view.
[14:26] <sinzui> henninge: the message says there is no launchapd.Moderation
[14:27] <henninge> so, the view is for IPerson, requiring launchpad.Moderate
[14:28] <henninge> doesn't ModeratePerson in security.py apply to that?
[14:28] <sinzui> henninge: It might be. Accounts are not exposed in the UI, and we do not want to.
[14:29] <sinzui> henninge: the first thing  you should be doing is testing the redefinition of the intreface in doc and unit tests. You got ahead of yourself
[14:29] <henninge> sinzui: I see.
[14:29] <henninge> ok, let me do that and then we take it from there
[14:30] <flacoste> morning launchpadders
[14:33] <abentley> deryck: lib/lp/bugs/tests/../doc/bug.txt is failing for me on an unmodified copy of stable.  Any ideas? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/339243/
[14:34]  * deryck looks
[14:37] <abentley> deryck: test_bugs_webservice is also failing: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/339246/
[14:37] <deryck> abentley, no idea what that's about.  pulling a copy of stable, too.
[14:38] <deryck> looks like sample data is out of sync with the test maybe.  those look like sample data-based tests to me.
[14:41] <abentley> deryck: I ran make schema earlier, but I'll run it again.
[14:43] <abentley> deryck: Yeah, make schema didn't help.
[14:56] <deryck> abentley, yeah, they fail for me too in stable.  I can look into it, but it will have to wait a bit.  Have a call coming up.
[14:56] <BjornT_> gary_poster: maybe you could review a small patch? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bjornt/launchpad/bug-495397/+merge/16007
[14:56] <abentley> deryck: Thanks for looking into it.
[14:56] <deryck> abentley, np
[14:56] <gary_poster> BjornT_: looking
[15:07] <adiroiban> is there a way to see exceptions from a view method?
[15:08] <adiroiban> I can see LocationError but I don't know why
[15:09] <henninge> sinzui: I had to move things around in IAccount* to accomodate for the fact that status is part of two interfaces. http://paste.ubuntu.com/339260/
[15:10] <sinzui> Correct. You do need to do that
[15:11] <matsubara> sinzui, let me know when finish editing LaunchpadTestPlan/3.1.12
[15:11] <matsubara> please
[15:11] <sinzui> matsubara: done
[15:15] <sinzui> henninge: I am surprised this works. I recall that the ZCML validator will scream if there are two permission for an attribute.
[15:15] <matsubara> thanks sinzui
[15:17] <henninge> sinzui: it still does :(
[15:17] <sinzui> henninge: I recall needing to ensure an attribute was listed just once, then updating the permission checkers in security.py to to ensure that each level of responsibility was included eg, launchpad.Moderate must  allow the owner and admin to change them too
[16:12] <henninge> sinzui: verifyObject is failing for IAccount. I don't kno why it does not see the Attributes from IAccountModerated.
[16:13] <sinzui> interesting
[16:13] <henninge> http://paste.ubuntu.com/339309/
[16:14] <sinzui> status_comment is defined in IAccountModerated?
[16:14] <henninge> sinzui: I think the checkers are ok : http://paste.ubuntu.com/339313/
[16:14] <henninge> sinzui: yes
[16:14] <sinzui> hmm that is bad
[16:15] <sinzui> ModerateAccount must check for registry_expert(user) , edit must check be admin. I think you need to revert EditAccount
[16:16] <sinzui> henninge: my recommendation to change EditAccount was based on giving ~registry Edit. Since you create Moderate, we need separate checking rules
[16:17] <sinzui> henninge: I think the error you are seeing relates to the interface and zcml. Can I see those
[16:17] <henninge> sinzui: but isn't the current situation more permissive to when I change it
[16:17] <henninge> ?
[16:17] <sinzui> henninge: whay are you creating Moderate when Launchpad.Edit uses is_admin_or_registry_expert(user)
[16:18] <henninge> sinzui: lp:~henninge/launchpad/bug-495126-deactivate-users
[16:18] <henninge> codebrowse is down ...
[16:18] <henninge> let me paste it
[16:20] <henninge> sinzui: account.zcml http://paste.ubuntu.com/339317/
[16:21] <henninge> sinzui: interfaces http://paste.ubuntu.com/339320/
[16:23] <sinzui> henninge: revert EditAccount. Those rules are not changing because you are creating launchpad.Moderate. ModerateAccount checks uses is_admin_or_registry_expert(user) . In fact, I think ModerateAccount() may look exactly like how you wrote EditAccount
[16:25] <sinzui> henninge: As I said earlier, I do not think you can have IAccountStatus because you are defining it twice. That look wrong and I recall ZCML will hate you for it
[16:25] <henninge> sinzui: no, the current setup doesn't.
[16:26] <henninge> sinzui: IAccountEdit and IAccountModerate don't share any attributes.
[16:26] <henninge> sinzui: that is what zcml was complaining about in the first version I did.
[16:27] <sinzui> henninge: IAccountPublic and IAccountModerate both have status, then you give it to IAccount
[16:27] <sinzui> so Iaccount has status, but two permission rules for it
[16:28] <henninge> IAccount does not inherit from IAccountPublic but from IAccountBase
[16:28] <henninge> there is one rule for reading and one for setting
[16:29] <henninge> sinzui: found it!
[16:30] <henninge> sinzui: there is no read rule for the two attributes in IAccountModerate, only a set rule.
[16:30] <sinzui> henninge: yes I see that.
[16:43] <henninge> sinzui: test is passing now again, all is well. But interfaces/account.py has gained some weight.
[17:10] <sinzui> henninge: There are several unreviewed projects that were setup by spammers
[17:11] <henninge> sinzui: I did not get to reviewing projects this week, I am sorry
[17:11] <sinzui> No one has reviewed projects for several weeks. there are about 450 projects
[17:12]  * sinzui approves the obvious ones so that only the challenging ones need review.
[17:23] <Daviey> Hey, i'm interested in adding a boolean people[].mugshot.isValid to the API - to return if there is a mugshot for that person/team?  Does anyone have any guidance
[17:24] <Daviey> afaics it's currently only possible by using .open()
[17:24] <Daviey> which is less than ideal, because it looks like it downloads the image
[17:25] <beuno> Daviey, sinzui can probably give you a nod
[17:26] <Daviey> sinzui: ping ^^
[17:28] <sinzui> Daviey: we do not *add* to the API, We expose what is there. So the questions we ask it does the application need to know this, and if so add it. Otherwise we make changes to the application so that users get that information some other way, Do you want to do this because mugshot blows up when you try to get it?
[17:28] <Daviey> sinzui: I just want a sane way to find out if a person/team has a mugshot or not :(
[17:29] <Daviey> programtically
[17:29] <beuno> isn't there such logic in Launchpad today?
[17:30] <Daviey> beuno: i've spent quite alot of time trying to find out.. i'll be really pleased if you know of one :)
[17:31] <beuno> Daviey, I don't, but Launchpad finds out somehow, so either that needs to be exposed, or something needs to be created
[17:31] <sinzui> Daviey: In python we would test for this by
[17:31] <sinzui>     if person.mugshot:
[17:31] <sinzui> or to be pedantic
[17:31] <sinzui>     if person.mugshot is None:
[17:34] <sinzui> Daviey: I think the problem is not that you cannot know that the user has a mugshot, but that there is a problem in how it was exposed: bug 336943
[17:34] <mup> Bug #336943: requesting user's mugshot via api OOPS when user is using the default one <api> <registry-people> <Launchpad Registry:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/336943>
[17:34] <Daviey> sinzui: I was just testing the above code, for a moment i was feeling rather silly.
[17:34] <sinzui> Daviey: The logic should return None instead of dying
[17:35] <sinzui> I do not think Launchpad should return the default url when there is none.
[17:35] <Daviey> sinzui: what i'm currently doing is try mugshot.open(), catch HTTPError
[17:35] <Daviey> which makes me feel very dirty.
[17:37] <sinzui> Daviey: I agree. I do not know what is going. The API uses this:
[17:37] <sinzui> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/339365/
[17:40] <Daviey> hmm
[17:42] <sinzui> Daviey: I think the problem is in lib/canonical/launchpad/fields/__init__py I see BaseImageUpload requires default_image_resource to be set...but never uses it!
[17:44] <Daviey> sinzui: You obviously know this better than i do, but would that cause a BOOM?  Having data that isn't used?
[17:45] <Daviey> launchpad web app looks like it uses default_image_resource
[17:46] <sinzui> Well if the default is not being used, the field is processing None, which will cause an error. I think the field should check that there is an image to work. If there is not one, return the default
[17:49] <Daviey> sinzui: Is this something you'll have time to work on, or should i look at trying to submit it myself?
[17:49] <sinzui> Daviey: I do not see a test that shows that the mugshot attribute works when access via the API. A test of any test user will work since non have mugshots set
[17:49] <sinzui> I do not have time to work on it. That is why the bug is low
[17:49] <Daviey> >>> people['davewalker'].mugshot
[17:49] <Daviey> <lazr.restfulclient.resource.HostedFile object at 0xa8d130c>
[17:50] <Daviey> I have no mugshot
[17:53] <Daviey> sinzui: thanks for your time
[17:57] <sinzui> Daviey: I updated bug 336943 with my thoughts
[17:57] <mup> Bug #336943: requesting user's mugshot via api OOPS when user is using the default one <api> <registry-people> <Launchpad Registry:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/336943>
[17:58] <Daviey> \o/
[18:26] <sinzui> Chex: ping
[18:31] <Chex> sinzui: hello there
[19:13] <mars> oops.  launchpadlib threw up when I ran the simple example on the wiki :(
[19:13] <adiroiban> when doing pagetest, and using find_tag_by_id, is there a function for getting links withing that tag?
[19:14] <adiroiban> like browser.getLink?
[19:14] <mars> adiroiban, it uses beautiful soup under the hood, and soup can do that, so maybe check the find_tag_by_id() function definition.
[19:45] <maxb> mars: Here's my personal gathering of things I've played around with launchpadlib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/339440/ - hope it's useful
[19:45] <mars> maxb, thanks
[19:46] <mars> turns out it was my user pythonpath being loaded over the system libraries
[19:46] <mars> nice
[19:56] <mars> excellent!  you can pull raw API JSON using a call launchpad._browser.get()


[22:26] <kevb> ikonia: how does one flush rules?
[22:26] <Guest31541> Hey
[22:26] <Paddy_NI> !bluetooth | ^Phantom^
[22:26] <Guest31541> I cant set my desktop resolution to 1440x900 can someone help?
[22:27] <IdleOne> !fixres
[22:27] <kevb> Anybody know how to flush iptables rules?
[22:27] <SweetSarah> my wireless stops working when i transfer large files
[22:28] <SweetSarah> takes 10 mins and comes back
[22:28] <SweetSarah> but works fine in windows
[22:28] <SweetSarah> on my dual-boot
[22:28] <ivenkys> Question : if i rotate my monitor - do i also need to change the DPI settings ?
[22:28] <IdleOne> kevb: man iptables scroll down a little. -F
[22:28] <iuri> > ÇLSẀEDWEDCWPFERve>CFFROtgpob
[22:28] <iuri> qx>vĉ x BBG
[22:28] <SuperMIguel> in twinview is there a way to tell a program to start on a specific location (x,y) ??
[22:29] <iuri> sorry about that
[22:29] <Sam___> hi, any idea?
[22:29] <Sam___> anyone can help me?when i try to install ubuntu, just work until ask for the language, then no matter which option do i select, the screen freezes, any idea?
[22:29] <mickster04> Sam___, try doing the disk check
[22:30] <i00nsu> In a LAN with 5 computers-clients and 1 server, I want to set up a DNS in the Server machine, so I can write the machine name in the browser, instead of writing the IP? .. I know that is the DNS configuration, but I need to configure that in the Server or in all machines-clients?
[22:30] <moymoy> i00nsu: edit the /etc/hosts file
[22:30] <mickster04> Sam___, there is an option to check the disk for errors
[22:30] <purplenurple_> i00nsu, check out bind
[22:31] <purplenurple_> hosts will do it but if your going to do something do it right
[22:31] <Sam___> mickster04: anyoption get freezes, and mi disk has windows, but with a free partition , thatas where i wanna put the ubuntu, but it get freezes
[22:31] <^Phantom^> That is very helpful, however, I want to use my laptop as the listening device.
[22:31] <moymoy> i00nsu: add in a line like `xxx.xxx.xxx.xx hostname`
[22:31] <i00nsu> moymoy, purplenurple,  in the Server machine or in all client machines?
[22:31] <purplenurple_> server machine
[22:31] <^Phantom^> The phone wants to send the audio data to the laptop for listening on there.
[22:31] <mickster04> Sam___, well it sounds like the disk is broken, m5hash sum?
[22:31] <jonny_b1> can someone re-assure me once and for all about file sharing in a dual booth system,thanks
[22:31] <i00nsu> Ok. many thanks! :)
[22:31] <SweetSarah> does anyone know why my wireless would drop for 10 minutes when i transfer a big file?
[22:31] <nsp> kevb: http://pastebin.ca/1545114
[22:31] <llua> MoyMoy: i deleted the vista partition now i cant boot into ubuntu or xp
[22:32] <purplenurple_> llua, you need to reconfigure grub
[22:32] <llua> how?
[22:32] <purplenurple_> llua, from a live cd ... google for instructions
[22:32] <kri> i dont get it ive made 2 alias scripts but only 1 seems to work
[22:32] <moymoy> llua: purplenurple_: wait.. how does deleting the vista partition mess up grub?
[22:32] <kevb> nsp: shoudl I just execute every command in that file yeah?
[22:33] <nsp> kevb: That would work if you set the second NIC to <IP_ADDRESS>  (Change IP as needed.)
[22:33] <moymoy> !grub | kri
[22:33] <purplenurple_> moymoy, it could jack up the partition table
[22:33] <nsp> kevb: No, that is a firewall script.... just an example.
[22:33] <maver1ck> i00nsu: if you have a DNS server set up, all you need to do is make sure all your clients are using the IP address of that DNS server, that will pull all the information in your zone to every server
[22:33] <waseem> hello guys is there a windows installer for ubuntu that I can use to install ubuntu on a seperate partition?
[22:33] <kri> alias knark='xmms -e *.mp3' <-- works propper.. alias ls-mb='ls -alh' <-- dont work..
[22:33] <Sam___> mickster04: i end up installing kubuntu in that partition, i don't think that the disk is the problem, because it happens in three different pcs, do you think that the windows is making a conflict?
[22:33] <jcmarini> !tab
[22:33] <kevb> nsp: so what shoudl I do with it?
[22:33] <unop> SweetSarah, I'd suspect a problem with the driver - and overflow or something of the sort that causes it to drop the connection.
[22:33] <unop> kri, an alias cannot have a - in its name.
[22:33] <nsp> kevb: You can edit your existing firewall script to do something similar.
[22:33] <mickster04> Sam___, if the disk doesnt work in three pcs the cd is dead
[22:33] <SweetSarah> unop where should i start to look?
[22:33] <kri> unop: hmm ok
[22:33] <kevb> nsp:  how?
[22:34] <kevb> nsp:  and I wouldn't now similair if it hit me in the head
[22:34] <nsp> kevb: http://pastebin.ca/1545114  is just an example to go by.
[22:34] <moymoy> purplenurple_: ubuntu installs onto logical partitions no? so it'd always start at /dev/sda5 even if there're no other partitions right?
[22:34] <Innomen> where in the alternate install screen is the option for upgrading?
[22:34] <kevb> nsp:  it means nothign to me.
[22:34] <cmp> hello? how to install to new icons theme?
[22:34] <unop> SweetSarah,  If you wish to do some debugging of your own.  run this command in a terminal.  sudo tail -f /var/log/{messages,kern.log,debug}
[22:34] <kevb> nsp: ikonia siad I needed to flush my iptables and follow the 3 commands on the ICS instruction page
[22:35] <smogattack> anyone know of a good alternative to mozilla sunbird on ubuntu? I don't want thunderbird either.
[22:35] <nsp> kevb: sudo apt-get install firestarter
[22:35] <unop> SweetSarah, then go about trying to cause the bug .. if you get any messages, use them in your bug report, troubleshooting etc
[22:35] <kevb> nsp: I already have gufw
[22:35] <purplenurple_> moymoy, depends on what you mean by start
[22:35] <SweetSarah> unop so there is no way to just go get a new driver or something like that?
[22:35] <jcmarini> i want more hdd space. should i delete the gutsy gibbon that takes half hdd. opions welcome.
[22:35] <kri> unop: ok how long before its update? cause it dont seem to do so
[22:36] <smogattack> anyone know of a good alternative to mozilla sunbird on ubuntu? I don't want thunderbird either.
[22:36] <Innomen> how dou you tell the ubuntu installer ot upgrade instead of wipe?
[22:36] <unoob> Hi, Karmic is supposed to be bleeding edge, right? Can anyone explain to me why eclipse-pydev is 3 years old in it: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/devel/eclipse-pydev ?
[22:36] <Guest31541> I cant set my desktop resolution to 1440x900 can someone help?
[22:36] <jcmarini> opion;opinions
[22:36] <kri> unop: (the basch_aliases) and baschrc i guess. to update...
[22:36] <i00nsu> maver1ck, I have the DNS Service installed in the server machine|| now: as moymoy said, edit the /etc/hosts xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx host-name... this IP I need to put before the host name is of the local-machine? I mean, if my server-ip is <IP_ADDRESS>, I must edit /etc/hosts and add the line <IP_ADDRESS> My-Server, or I should add this line in all clients?
[22:36] <nsp> kevb: I'm showing you how to do it manually, but have used firestarter and it worked just fine on a couple systems in the passed.
[22:37] <cmp> hello? how to  install new icons themes ?
[22:37] <kevb> nsp: if I just change the ip in the pastebin script to <IP_ADDRESS>, will it work?
[22:37] <kevb> nsp verbatim?
[22:37] <purplenurple_> haha
[22:37] <smogattack> anyone know of a good alternative to mozilla sunbird on ubuntu? I don't want thunderbird either.
[22:37] <moymoy> Innomen: if you want to upgrade with a CD, don't boot into the CD .. boot up into ubuntu, put in the CD, then go edit software sources and add the ubuntu CD as a source
[22:37] <jcmarini> !gutsy gibbon
[22:37] <purplenurple_> smogattack, nope ... i use thunderbird 3 .. me likes
[22:37] <unop> SweetSarah, I'm positive there is but you might want to see if there are any package updates first - espectially with the restricted drivers/modules
[22:38] <nsp> kevb: Yes, if you have the second nic set to <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:38] <unop> kri, where have you defined your alias?
[22:38] <Innomen> moymoy, oohhhh
[22:38] <cmp> hello, how to install new Icons themes?\
[22:38] <Innomen> duhr
[22:38] <Innomen> thanks man
[22:38] <Paddy_NI> ^Phantom^, I cannot find much on that phone :(
[22:38] <Innomen> moymoy, thanks man
[22:38] <smogattack> purplenurple_, is the calendar big enough?
[22:38] <kevb> nsp, yes the second faces the LAN.
[22:38] <Sam___> mickster04: but i burned other cd, it was with 3 different CDs, from 3 differents downloaded files, that happened to a workparter too, it can't be that both CDs are dead
[22:38] <SweetSarah> unop sorry for the newb question, but how do i do that?
[22:38] <moymoy> cmp: just drag the archive file into the theme manager
[22:38] <purplenurple_> smogattack, don't use it
[22:38] <i00nsu> maver1ck, ahh I just re-read what you said: so add as main DNS the Server-machine-ip and everything will work fine right?
[22:38] <purplenurple_> let me see
[22:38] <mickster04> Sam___, o i c
[22:38] <kri> unop: only the first line seems to work in my .bash_aliases even if the second and third line is coorect. 2nd line:alias lsmb='ls -alh' | 3d line:alias FITTA='ls' ..
[22:38] <cmp> moymoy, how to go to the theme manager ?
[22:38] <unop> SweetSarah, at a terminal.    sudo aptitude update;  sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[22:38] <mickster04> Sam___, unlucky then?
[22:39] <SweetSarah> unop thanks
[22:39] <kri> unop: defined my aliases?
[22:39] <smogattack> purplenurple_, well... I mainly want a calendar..
[22:39] <smogattack> anyone know of a good alternative to mozilla sunbird on ubuntu? I don't want thunderbird either.
[22:39] <moymoy> system -> preferences -> appearance
[22:39] <maver1ck> i00nsu, if you have a DNS server you dont have to edit the host files, you just need to add the machine names in your zone file, like machine1.local IN A <IP_ADDRESS> or what ever you want the names to be
[22:39] <waseem> guys i used UNetbootin with ubuntu 8.04 and it gave me an error when i selected it in the boot up menu.
[22:39] <unop> kri, put your ~/.bash_aliases file up on a pastebin -- let's have a look
[22:39] <kri> pastebin!
[22:39] <TheSpazzz> Evening all, I was wondering if someone could help me figure out where an audiostream on a website is coming from.  They use a flash based player and i'd like to add it directly to rythembox
[22:39] <kri> url
[22:39] <kri> :>
[22:40] <kri> pastebin
[22:40] <Sam___> mickster04, you think that it could be the graphical driver? althougt the pcs are hp, dell and compaq
[22:40] <jhaig> I have 4 packages being kept back by apt-get: linux-generic, linux-headers-generic, linux-image-generic and linux-restricted-modules-generic.  I am in no particular hurry to have these installed, but will the get installed automatically (ie, with apt-get upgrade without forcing) eventually?
[22:40] <maver1ck> i00nsu, the DNS server will get the root zone from arp servers, allowing you to access all external sites as well as letting you set up your own A Records for your internal network
[22:40] <purplenurple_> smogattack, i'm assuming you already know it doesn't have a calendar cause i don't see one
[22:40] <moymoy> !pastebin | kri
[22:40] <moymoy> lol
[22:40] <mickster04> Sam___, i still think u should do the m5 hash sum check thing on the downloads
[22:40] <my007ms> hello
[22:40] <ioka> guys do you know open source real time voice changer
[22:40] <cmp> moymoy, i drag the package into the icon place - its not accepting it
[22:40] <smogattack> purplenurple_, I'm asking for an alternative to mozilla sunbird, which is a calendar app...
[22:41] <kri> unop: http://pastebin.com/m3b8c0235
[22:41] <moymoy> cmp: what kind of file is it?
[22:41] <u-noob-u> Hi, Karmic is supposed to be bleeding edge, right? Can anyone explain to me why eclipse-pydev is 3 years old in it: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/devel/eclipse-pydev ?
[22:41] <my007ms> can some pleas help in compile vmware module in ubuntu 9 ?
[22:41] <cmp> zip
[22:41] <danbhfive> u-noob-u: look up eclipse in the community docs
[22:41] <i00nsu> maver1ck, 'in your zone file' what file? sorry for this nooblish question
[22:41] <purplenurple_> smogattack, i know ... you said you didn't want to use thunderbird ... nevermind
[22:41] <maver1ck> i00nsu, however, if you dont feel comfortable with using a DNS server, you can edit the host files on all the machines, you will have to add all hostnames and IP addresses of every machine on the host file of every machine, so every machine should have 6 entries in the host file
[22:41] <unop> kri, ok, this looks fine.  now use this command.   source ~/.bash_aliases   #and then try your alias out
[22:41] <smogattack> anyone know of a good alternative to mozilla sunbird on ubuntu? I don't want thunderbird either.
[22:41] <maver1ck> i00nsu, zone files are the config files for dns
[22:42] <ioka> is there a open source real time voice changer
[22:42] <TheSpazzz> smogattack: I've been very happy with Evolution
[22:42] <cmp> moymoy, i made it now tar.gz
[22:42] <kri> unop: done dont work
[22:42] <TheSpazzz> smogattack : THough for the most part I just use Google Calander, which can be imported directly into evolution in the newest versions.
[22:42] <cmp> moymoy, i also tried to drag it as you  said - but its not accepting it
[22:42] <purplenurple_> ioka, ubuntu-studio has tons of tools you can use that for
[22:42] <unop> kri, any error messages at all? or any output for that matteR?
[22:42] <purplenurple_> er for that
[22:42] <u-noob-u> danbhfive: Thanks! .. "You are probably wondering why Ubuntu is packaging a three year old version of this package ... "
[22:43] <maver1ck> i00nsu, if you use ubuntu as your DNS server you can grab webmin from www.webmin.com its an easy install and you can use it to configure your dns server as it will generate all the zone files for you.
[22:43] <Sam___> mickster04, well i'll do that, but i used one of the CDs with a Compaq Laptop and it works, just that the Laptop had only that operating system, no Windows
[22:43] <danbhfive> u-noob-u: :) yep
[22:43] <TNT> hi
[22:43] <cmp> moymoy, i also tried to drag it as you  said - but its not accepting i
[22:43] <kri> unop: no error messeages when i 'source .bash_aliases' seemed to go thru. when trying to run a alias it says = command not found.
[22:43] <TNT> alguem do brasil ?
[22:43] <maver1ck> i00nsu, its a good place to start anyways, it may help to read up on setting up your own DNS server a little, but webmin will make it easier
[22:43] <kevb> nsp: firestarter seems to work and think everything went fine, yet the winxp is still failing to find the internet
[22:43] <TNT> alguma nerda ?
[22:43] <moymoy> cmp: look inside the .tar.gz is there another .tar.gz inside?
[22:44] <u-noob-u> danbhfive: I wonder why Ubuntu doesn't just use Sun's JVM
[22:44] <smogattack> sweet! thanks TheSpazzz
[22:44] <moymoy> kri: check if any of your aliases are already actual commands
[22:44] <i00nsu> ok, thanks for the detailed update-information. Really!!! Many many thanks! [[]]
[22:44] <rexuru> what is the name of the application that controls the sound in ubuntu?
[22:44] <unop> kri, which alias was this?
[22:44] <cmp> moymoy, no there is not
[22:45] <moymoy> kri: or try typing your alias lines into the terminal one at a time instead of just running the .bash_alias file
[22:45] <nsp> kevb: See what IP address (the XP system is getting), see if it is proper for your LAN.  See what nameserver it is using, and if it is proper for your ICS configuration: ( ifconfig )  and also see if the default route is right.
[22:45] <moymoy> cmp: are you sure it's a gnome icon set? did you download it from gnome-look or something?
[22:45] <kri> moymoy: ok you mean edit the .bash_alias file just 1 command at the time?
[22:45] <cmp> yes
[22:45] <snarkster> is there anyway to change the way icons are put on the screen? i want them to go left to right not down
[22:46] <moymoy> kri: no.. i mean type your aliases into the terminal
[22:46] <cmp> moymoy, its from ( gnome-look.org)
[22:46] <kri> moymoy: ive done so they cant be found
[22:46] <moymoy> kri: one at a time.. instead of editing the .bash_alias file.... just do it to see where it goes wrong
[22:46] <mickster04> Sam___, they are unrelated...it should just work, have u tried all the other option available to you or does the language election come up first
[22:46] <nsp> kevb: If you do not have the DHCP server running, you will need to manually pick and configure an IP address for the XP system. And also tell it what default gw address to use. And then also tell it what nameserver to use.
[22:46] <Guest31541> Hey, how can i install fgrlx on ubuntu 9,04?
[22:46] <moymoy> kri: what i mean is type `alias lsmb='ls -alh' into the terminal and see if it works fine
[22:46] <kevb> nsp: I don't knwo what you mean by default route, but I have manually assigned the ip address, and the ubuntu server and winxp machine can ping one and other.
[22:47] <moymoy> kri: and do the same for all your other aliases
[22:47] <snarkster> Guest31541: use envyNG
[22:47] <nsp> kevb: default route = gateway IP
[22:47] <Guest31541> snarkster which is?
[22:47] <myk_robinson> having a problem with NetworkManager and OpenVPN. I have an OpenVPN server setup at my church, and the connection works fine from Windows but not from Ubuntu. Anyone able to work with me to get this resolved?
[22:47] <kevb> nsp:  Yeah, in thi9s case it's <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:47] <snarkster> guest31541: a prorgram to install the fglrx driver.
[22:47] <unop> kri, out of curiosity -- what does this return?   echo $SHELL
[22:47] <nsp> kevb: Very good.  ... Now does it have a nameserver to use?  Like <IP_ADDRESS>  or... ?
[22:47] <Sam___> mickster04: the language come first, i select one, then i can move over the 6 o 7 menus, but when i push Enter on one of them, the screen freezes
[22:48] <Guest31541> snarkster looks like a prgm straight from god thanks
[22:48] <TheSpazzz> smogattack: NP :-)
[22:48] <nsp> kevb: nameserver = DNS
[22:48] <snarkster> guest31541: no problem
[22:48] <mickster04> Sam___, no idae buddy sorry keep askin ho]
[22:48] <kevb> nsp: sure, no nameservers yet
[22:48] <snarkster> how do you change icons to go left to right not down
[22:48] <Sam___> mickster04: yeh, thanks anyway
[22:48] <Evelina> I have a problem with Planet Venus, anyone having experience of planet-venus?
[22:49] <Sam___> anyone can help me?when i try to install ubuntu, just work until ask for the language, then no matter which option do i select, the screen freezes, any idea?
[22:49] <kri> moymoy: know the stupid thing works
[22:49] <nsp> kevb: Use the same nameserver the host is using. (If you can ping it,[from the client machine] it should resolv domanin names for you.)
[22:49] <snarkster> venus is hot and has alot of surface pressure with temperture running a cool 900 k
[22:49] <nsp> *resolve
[22:49] <snarkster> second pnaet in our solar system
[22:49] <snarkster> pnaet is a new way to spell planet
[22:49] <purplenurple_> isn't venus a razor
[22:49] <moymoy> nope, she's a goddess
[22:50] <unop> !ot
[22:50] <purplenurple_> a goddess razor
[22:50] <Sam___> anyone can help me?when i try to install ubuntu, just work until ask for the language i can select one, but then when the menu appears no matter which option do i select, the screen freezes, any idea?
[22:50] <kri> unop: dunno? a shell account at some machine?
[22:50] <snarkster> icons left to right not down any takers??
[22:50] <moymoy> Sam___: you can try a text based installer.. they make it just as easy as the gui installer
[22:50] <unop> kri, that should return  'bash'
[22:50] <TheSpazzz> So how about it?  Anyone have any idea how I can find the audio stream on a webpage when it's coming through a peice of Flash?
[22:50] <NeXstaR> can anyone please help me i have received this error: Warning: Screen isn't composited. Please run compiz (-fusion) or another compositing manager.
[22:50] <Morder> having issues with resolution when monitor is turned off http://paste.ubuntu.com/259599/ - anyone have a minute?
[22:51] <nsp> TheSpazzz: /tmp
[22:51] <MilitantPotato> How do you configure CPUFreq to change frequency at lower CPU usage?  It's causing lag when a single process uses 100% of one cpu, but it won't increase my clock unless both are at a fairly high usage.  It's currently set to OnDemand
[22:51] <Sam___> moymoy: where can i get one? the live cd works for taht?
[22:51] <spritelol> gentoo > ubuntu
[22:51] <purplenurple_> Morder, how do you know if your having resolution issues if its off
[22:51] <moymoy> NeXstaR: press ALT+F2 and type in `compiz --replace`
[22:51] <snarkster> thespazzz its part of the flash object download the flash object and convert to mp4 then seperate audio from video
[22:51] <Morder> i've tried to enforce one resolution at all times but it always seems to revert to 800x600
[22:51] <nsp> TheSpazzz: ls -ltr /tmp
[22:51] <TheSpazzz> nsp: Can you be a little more specific?  I don't want the file I want the actual URL to the stream so I can add it to Rythembox
[22:51] <Morder> purplenurple_: remote desktop
[22:51] <movela> is there a way i can connect use my laptop as a internet brigde? laptop connects thru wifi.
[22:51] <moymoy> Sam___: download the alternate installer iso. it should be smaller also
[22:52] <kermit> how can i keep apt cache from keeping all these .deb's i've already installed around?
[22:52] <moymoy> Sam___: i think
[22:52] <mazza558> does anyone know how to compile alsa with midi support?
[22:52] <Strife89> !resolution
[22:52] <kevb> nsp:  I'm alsmost there, I can now ping googles ip, but how do I find out the ips of my hosts nameservers?
[22:52] <snarkster> kermit sudo apt-get clean
[22:52] <moymoy> kermit: just do an apt-get clean
[22:52] <nsp> TheSpazzz: Right click on the link and select "Copy link location"
[22:52] <purplenurple_> Mohero, not that its relevant but why remote desktop and not ssh
[22:52] <DasEi1> !bootoptions | Sam___, and also verify your current installer cd, textinstaller provides no live-functionality
[22:52] <NeXstaR> moymoy: i have already did that but each time i restart my desktop i get that message is it fixable ?
[22:52] <bigDaddy> hey all
[22:52] <TheSpazzz> nsp: There is no link tahts the problem.  The stream is coming through a Flash Applet.
[22:52] <kri> unop: yes /bin/bash
[22:52] <chalcedny> in a new installation of jaunty, how do i get to 'tmp' (where it downloads stuff to)  with commandline?
[22:52] <snarkster> anybody on my icons question??
[22:52] <nsp> kevb: cat /etc/reslov.conf
[22:52] <Mohero> purplenurple_: that wasn't for me, was it?
[22:53] <Morder> i thikn it was for me
[22:53] <DasEi1> chalcedny: cd /tmp
[22:53] <IdleOne> TheSpazzz: right click the applet and properties should give you the link
[22:53] <TheSpazzz> chalcendy in terminal sudo nautilus /tmp
[22:53] <purplenurple_> Mohero, yeah ... i got the wrong name when I tabbed
[22:53] <nsp> TheSpazzz: I don't know, maybe someone else can help.
[22:53] <kevb> nsp: no such file or directory
[22:53] <moymoy> NeXstaR: go do the appearance manager and enable desktop effects.. that'll make it so that compiz is enabled everytime you boot in
[22:53] <unop> TheSpazzz, use gksudo instead
[22:53] <Mohero> purplenurple_: :) np :)
[22:53] <TheSpazzz> IdleOne Ok one sec
[22:53] <Mohero> I'll just go back to sleep
[22:53] <kermit> snarkster, moymoy: in a crontab?  is there no setting to make it delete them after they're installed?
[22:53] <chalcedny> DasEi1,  llhull@Marcus:~$ cd tmp
[22:53] <chalcedny> bash: cd: tmp: No such file or directory
[22:53] <chalcedny> llhull@Marcus:~$
[22:53] <Morder> purplenurple_: because i'm remoting from a windows machine
[22:54] <DasEi1> chalcedny: cd /tmp
[22:54] <unop> chalcedny,   cd /tmp  #note the /
[22:54] <nsp> kevb: cat  /etc/resolv.conf
[22:54] <chalcedny> ahh thanks DasEi1 :)
[22:54] <DasEi1> np
[22:54] <snarkster> well you can setup a crontab to run that command at set intervals i guess.
[22:54] <Morder> i had it working the other day but i did a fresh install and the paste is what i had xorg.conf set to but now it doesn't work at all
[22:54] <purplenurple_> Morder, ic but why not just use ssh?  remote desktop is slooooowww.. or maybe it's just me
[22:54] <kevb> nsp: yup, no such file or directory
[22:54] <moymoy> kermit: why do you want to constantly delete them anyway?
[22:54] <TheSpazzz> IdleOne I don't have that option, It says Settings and About Adobe Flash
[22:54] <Innomen> how can i upgrade ubuntu from jaunty to karmic offline
[22:54] <NeXstaR> moymoy: yes true but i get that error with the compiz enabled ;/
[22:54] <Innomen> i ahve iso and usb
[22:54] <bigDaddy> Whats up with Flash sucking in 9.04? anyone care  to quip?
[22:54] <Berzerker> How can I get my netbook to join a certain network over another one, and not just the last one it joined.
[22:54] <IdleOne> Innomen: #ubuntu+1
[22:54] <nsp> kevb: On the host machine?  ls /etc/resolv.conf
[22:55] <nsp> kevb:  No such file?
[22:55] <DasEi1> Innomen: you'd have to put the repos of cd in and check :
[22:55] <IdleOne> TheSpazzz: not sure what to tell you now
[22:55] <moymoy> purplenurple_: Morder: i think remote desktop is slow too.. not to mention ssh, you can enable compression, so it speeds things up a bit
[22:55] <DasEi1> !upgrade
[22:55] <kevb> nsp: yup
[22:55] <mazza558> does anyone know how to compile alsa with midi support?
[22:55] <TheSpazzz> bigDaddy : What issue are you having? I'm running flash in Jaunty and not having any issues
[22:55] <snarkster> bigdaddy yah it messed up for me to
[22:55] <chalcedny> bigDaddy, you can get flash, you just have to fool around with it some
[22:55] <Innomen> IdleOne, trhey are kinda under staffed and not helpful, thought they are trying
[22:55] <Ingsoc> Hello #ubuntu, I installed network-manager from a deb, now I would like to switch to the version in the repos. How would I accomplish this?
[22:55] <moymoy> NeXstaR: that's odd.. since it's complaining about not having a compositor.. and it's still complaining even with compiz enabled?
[22:55] <Innomen> though*
[22:55] <snarkster> tried gnash that didnt work either, so now im on to the swi... something of other
[22:55] <DasEi1> !dist-upgrade | Innomen,  can use synaptic for adding cd
[22:56] <Innomen> DasEi1, can you be more spesific?
[22:56] <bigDaddy> it works but when i compare the playback of the nvidia home page to an xp box the animation is a lot slower
[22:56] <Guest31541> snarkster i hope youre right!!
[22:56] <Innomen> ok
[22:56] <Innomen> thank you :)
[22:56] <kevb> nsp: can I find the nameservers anywhere else?
[22:56] <nsp> kevb: You sure you are typing it in right?    /etc/resolv.conf
[22:56] <cmp> moymoy, hot to install skype on my ubuntu ?
[22:56] <kevb> nsp:  I'm copy-pasting it
[22:56] <snarkster> ok so there is no way to set icons to list left to right instead of top down
[22:56] <moymoy> !skype
[22:56] <cmp> yes
[22:56] <snarkster> guest31541 right about what?
[22:57] <NeXstaR> moymoy:  yes in the session it doesn't give any error but as soon as i restart it give me te error
[22:57] <kevb> cat /etc/reslov.conf
[22:57] <kevb> cat: /etc/reslov.conf: No such file or directory
[22:57] <nsp> kevb: You can ask your ISP  or maybe just use <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:57] <kevb> nsp: it's wierd that this file isn't here though right?
[22:57] <nsp> kevb:  I think <IP_ADDRESS> will work.
[22:57] <TheSpazzz> Ok let me approach it this way then.  There is a utility in windows that runs in the backround and dumps a log of every site accessed by the PC.  If I was in windows I could find the stream through that.  Is there any similar utility in windows?
[22:57] <nsp> kevb: Yes very wierd
[22:57] <cmp> moymoy, how to install skype on my ubuntu system?
[22:57] <kevb> nsp: thanks, totlly works now!
[22:58] <quantum> moymoy - synaptic
[22:58] <nsp> cmp: apt-get install skype
[22:58] <moymoy> NeXstaR: so the message pops up when the session ends? when it's shutting down? or when gnome is starting up?
[22:58] <kermit> moymoy: because they're just temp files that i'll never use again, there's no reason to keep them around eating up disk space
[22:58] <snarkster> very frustrating
[22:58] <TheSpazzz> bigDaddy: YOu use an Nvidia graphics card with the binary drivers?
[22:58] <cmp> its always telling me ( E:couldnt find the package)
[22:58] <nsp> kevb: Very good....!  :)
[22:58] <NeXstaR> moymoy: when i restart aka shutdown
[22:58] <TheSpazzz> cmp: Skype is not in the repositorys
[22:58] <MilitantPotato> Is there anyway to lower the CPU usage at which CPUFreq increases the clock when set to OnDemand?
[22:59] <TheSpazzz> cmp: YOu need to add the skype repository first or download a .deb from Skypes website.
[22:59] <Berzerker> cmp: download it from skype.com as a deb then use the package installer
[22:59] <snarkster> goto medibuntu to get skype
[22:59] <erUSUL> MilitantPotato: no that i know of
[22:59] <moymoy> kermit: you can do it as a cron job.. it's doable .. but i mount my apt archives through NFS, so i don't have to download the same deb files over again when install programs on other computers.. or when i upgrade
[22:59] <nsp> cmp: moymoy TheSpazzz:  Oh well, just go to skype.com and get the deb
[22:59] <bigDaddy> TheSpazz: 185.18.36 nvidia package 32bit tries 64 also same deal but not alpha driver
[22:59] <Guest31541> snarkster so now how do i set desktop resolution, i cant seem to use the ubuntu display thing it says something about using proper tool something..
[22:59] <moymoy> NeXstaR: why would it need to be composited while shutting down?
[23:00] <aj_444> How do I install themes on Ubuntu?
[23:00] <TheSpazzz> bigDaddy: Are you having issues running Flash video full screen?
[23:00] <nsp> cmp: moymoy TheSpazzz:  skype used to be in the repos... ?
[23:00] <TheSpazzz> nsp: It never has been that i'm aware of because it is non free
[23:00] <snarkster> guest31541: just do alt-f2 and type grandr
[23:00] <cmp> i dont understand what you are talking about here guys - so give me clear and easy answer
[23:00] <NeXstaR> moymoy: i really dont know
[23:00] <bigDaddy> TheSpazz: let u know in a sec
[23:00] <cmp> nsp, now iam downloading the deb
[23:00] <Guest31541> snarkster thats not installed..
[23:00] <danbhfive> !themes | aj_444
[23:00] <moymoy> NeXstaR: instead of using compiz, you can try installing xcompmgr and see how it does
[23:00] <snarkster> guest 31541 that doesnt work
[23:00] <nsp> TheSpazzz: Oh yea, well not in the default repositories, you would need to enable non-free
[23:00] <Innomen> keeps asking for a physical cd, ignores the virtual mounted one
[23:01] <snarkster> guest31541 that doesnt work
[23:01] <detonation> Anyone very familiar with eeepc's and jaunty? I seem to be having an issue that searching brings nothing up on
[23:01] <danbhfive> detonation: whats the problem?
[23:01] <TheSpazzz> nsp: I don't belive its even there.  THere is a 3rd party skype repository you can enable to get it through apt-get
[23:01] <aj_444> ubottu: will they instruct me how to install them?
[23:01] <sebsebseb> hi
[23:01] <NeXstaR> moymoy: how do i install xcompmgr
[23:01] <Guest31541> snarksterhuh? grandr is not installed.. i need to set monitor resolution to 1440x900
[23:01] <moymoy> !xcompmgr
[23:01] <sebsebseb> !bot |  aj_444
[23:01] <moymoy> NeXstaR: just install it through synaptic. It's in the repos
[23:01] <quantum> NeXstaR, apt-get install (package?)
[23:01] <nsp> cmp: moymoy TheSpazzz:  Sorry, I guess I stand corrected, skype is not in repos, just go to skype.com and get the deb
[23:01] <danbhfive> aj_444: see the last link I believe
[23:02] <vaiy> cmp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[23:02] <bigDaddy> TheSpazzz: youtube video a bit choppy full screen
[23:02] <Guest31541> snarkster grandr is not installed.. i need to set monitor resolution to 1440x900
[23:02] <aj_444> danbhfive: okay. Thanks.
[23:02] <snarkster> alt-f2 gnome-display-properties
[23:02] <danbhfive> !pm > detonation
[23:03] <kevb> Is there any software like remote desktop, but for ubuntu, and that has a client for windows.
[23:03] <cmp> as i said - its telling me ( E: couldnt find the package )
[23:03] <llutz> kevb: vnc
[23:03] <detonation> Fine.
[23:03] <cmp> some body help me with ti please
[23:03] <nsp> kevb: x11vnc
[23:03] <Guest31541> snarkster should i just install grandr?
[23:03] <robert__> how do i know what distro i'm currently running?
[23:03] <kevb> sudo apt-get install vnc?
[23:03] <TheSpazzz> bigDaddy: But it dosen't crash your browser?  Mine did that and I actualy had to change the way the plugin loaded to get it to work right
[23:03] <TheSpazzz> cmp: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/choose/
[23:03] <snarkster> i dont know that there is something called granr just do the gnome-display-properties
[23:04] <cmp> I DIDDDDDD
[23:04] <sebsebseb> robert__:  well   I assume you know which distro is installed, and so you probably  mean the version of Ubuntu?
[23:04] <cmp> i have the FILEEEE
[23:04] <TheSpazzz> Download the 8.10 .deb for 32 or 64 (whichever you use) that should get you going
[23:04] <sebsebseb> !release |  robert__
[23:04] <Guest31541> snarkster i just tried it and i get a message and yes does nothing, and no cancels :P
[23:04] <sebsebseb> !version |  robert__
[23:04] <w0rmh0le> I am a version 1.1.0 PyBorg
[23:04] <justinius> I'm looking for help fixing my dual boot partitions. Anybody up for that?
[23:04] <detonation> Jaunty 904 with the new kernel (when this started happening) has a suspend issue with my wireless card (module ath9k). after a suspend, it turns the wireless card off to the point it doesn't show up on lspci anymore. I have to reboot into windows and reenable it, then go back into linux to get it to see. A simple reboot does nothing. I have up to date everything including eepc-acpi-utilities
[23:04] <quantum> kevb, remote desktop viewer
[23:04] <cmp> but when i do use sudo command - its telling me as i said (E: couldnt find the package )
[23:04] <Guest31541> snarkster fixed it using grandr!
[23:04] <detonation> This is an EEEPC 1000he with everything up to date, that started when I did the kernel upgrade.
[23:04] <snarkster> oh good
[23:04] <detonation> Any ideas?
[23:05] <bigDaddy> TheSpazzz: Ff running beautiful absolutely flash animations slow; nv9100m; tries adobe, flashplugin-free and now using gnash seems to perform marginally better that adobe
[23:05] <Um_cara_qualquer> excuse me, how do i install wallpaper clock?
[23:05] <Guest31541> snarkster thanks a million :D
[23:05] <Innomen> lol ok so it cant be done
[23:05] <snarkster> sure thang
[23:05] <cmp> any one here will be able to answer ?
[23:05] <TheSpazzz> Ok CMP when you download the file it won't add it where you can get it from apt-get
[23:05] <Innomen> i must go buy a pack of blanks from the gas station
[23:05] <robert__> sebsebseb, yes thats what i meant
[23:05] <snarkster> icons left to right howd to do it
[23:05] <vaiy> cmp, first you need to add the package repository
[23:05] <TheSpazzz> You will need to double click the deb and then click Install Package
[23:05] <cmp> how i can do this
[23:05] <Innomen> it totally ignores the iso no matter where how wehn i mount it
[23:06] <cmp> Vaiy , how can i reach this repository
[23:06] <TheSpazzz> cmp : Have you downloaded the .deb file from Skype?
[23:06] <cmp> YESSSSSSSSSS
[23:06] <TheSpazzz> cmp: Go to gnome and find where you downloaded it
[23:06] <TheSpazzz> cmp : Then double click it, You should get a screen that comes up.  Click "Install Package"
[23:06] <cmp> i downloaded it on my desktop now
[23:06] <justinius> My windows partition is currently setup as a logical partition and I can't seem to boot from it. How do I fix this? Can I change it to a primary partition without deleting everything?
[23:06] <nsp> To mount iso image:   mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro /home/somebody/foobar.iso /mnt/cdrom
[23:06] <TheSpazzz> It will ask you for root access then install
[23:07] <vaiy> cmp, add the line "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free" to the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:07] <vaiy> cmp, (without the " ")
[23:07] <BobTheBlueBerry> hi
[23:07] <rhlin99> hello, how do I access a folder on my laptop while running virtualbox and fedora.  I am trying to get my bookmarks into fedora's virtualbox.
[23:07] <iCHRYST> Hey, after you install ubuntu do I need to install any drivers? Similar to windows clean install?
[23:08] <maxb> Only if you have *really* esoteric hardware
[23:08] <erUSUL> iCHRYST: no; only exception are some graphic drivers
[23:08] <smogattack> do you guys like korganizer or sunbird more?
[23:08] <erUSUL> iCHRYST: go to System>Administration>Hardware Drivers
[23:08] <cmp> vaiy : what are you trying to tell me here - i dont know any thing about ubuntu - please tell me something i can understand or at least tell me step by step what i will see and what i should do
[23:08] <TheSpazzz> iCHRYST : Most often no. Most of the free drivers will run most hardware fine.  You may need to install a graphic driver to unlock the 3D features of your video card.
[23:08] <iCHRYST> Oh okay. Well, my graphics card is inbuilt into my motherboard.
[23:09] <detonation> Jaunty 904 with the new kernel (when this started happening) has a suspend issue with my wireless card (module ath9k). after a suspend, it turns the wireless card off to the point it doesn't show up on lspci anymore. I have to reboot into windows and reenable it, then go back into linux to get it to see. A simple reboot does nothing. I have up to date everything including eepc-acpi-utilities. Any ideas?
[23:09] <erUSUL> iCHRYST: which brand ? intel ati; nvidia ...?
[23:09] <iCHRYST> Intel I think. It's a compaq evo desktop.
[23:09] <cmp> for god sake i want only one person who is not showing off with his experience and teach me easily and clearly
[23:10] <vaiy> cmp, open the file with the text editor of your choice, add the line and then just type apt-get update and apt-get install skype
[23:10] <TheSpazzz> CMP : I JUST GAVE YOU STEP BY STEP WITH THE DEB FILE YOU DOWNLOADED
[23:10] <TheSpazzz> WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT!?!?!?!
[23:10] <FloodBot3> TheSpazzz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:10] <erUSUL> !medibuntu | cmp follow instuction in this wiki to add the repositorie
[23:10] <cmp> what kind of file you want me to open Vaiy
[23:10] <erUSUL> cmp: after that skype will be listed in aplications>add remove
[23:11] <TheSpazzz> guys, He has the deb already
[23:11] <vaiy> cmp, just listen to TheSpazzz
[23:11] <TheSpazzz> Why are you trying to get him to do the repositories?
[23:11] <LLStarks> holy crap. mark just commented on my bug report.
[23:11] <unop> LLStarks, Shuttleworth?
[23:11] <^Phantom^> Network related question here.  How can I send a message to a windows computer that is on my internal network?
[23:11] <moymoy> LLStarks: link to it
[23:11] <LLStarks> yup
[23:11] <BobTheBlueBerry> hi I have a ATI Radeon HD 4650 it was working fine but then the other day I updated my system and now desktop effects won't work
[23:11] <unop> LLStarks, nice :)
[23:12] <TheSpazzz> cmp : Find the .deb file you downloaded.  Double click it, Enter your password, click install program, Go to Internet, Open Skype.
[23:12] <LLStarks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/377090
[23:12] <iCHRYST> Thanks for your help erUSUL!
[23:12] <nsp> cmp: or just do wget http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-32 ; sudo dpkg -i skype-ubuntu-intrepid_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[23:12] <LLStarks> comment #24
[23:12] <erUSUL> iCHRYST: no problem
[23:12] <zvacet> cmp : if you downloaded deb file just double click on it and skype should be installed
[23:12] <rhlin99> hello, how do I access a folder on my laptop while running virtualbox and fedora.  I am trying to get my bookmarks into fedora's virtualbox.
[23:13] <nsp> cmp: sudo dpkg Desktop/skype-ubuntu-intrepid_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[23:13] <mejobloggs> im trying to set up an ubuntu server at home... I've shared the hdd on it (by mounting it, then sharing that mount folder). But when I'm in Windows and right click > properites of the share, it doesn't say how much free space is left.
[23:13] <mejobloggs> is that possible to do?
[23:13] <jcfreeride> Does anyone know how to take an installed version of Ubuntu, configured to my liking, and then create bootable iso to install on other computers?
[23:14] <nsp> cmp: Correction:  sudo dpkg -i Desktop/skype-ubuntu-intrepid_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[23:14] <legend2440> jcfreeride: http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/remastersystool.html
[23:14] <jcfreeride> thnx
[23:15] <BobTheBlueBerry> can anyone help me?
[23:15] <barracuda> Hello Does any one know how to rip and burn blue-ray movies that i bought on ubuntu linux
[23:15] <rhlin99> installed virtual box on my laptop, installed fedora, then shared out my d drive but it doesnt show up in fedora...why?
[23:15] <jon_> My Amarok2 won't play my music, it just skips from song to song
[23:15] <rhlin99> lap top has c and d hard drives
[23:15] <vaiy> rhlin99, this is the ubuntu channel ;p
[23:16] <moymoy> barracuda: you have a bluray reader and burner on your computer?
[23:16] <barracuda> yes but haven't even touch it once
[23:16] <^Phantom^> Network related question here.  How can I send a network message to a windows computer that is on my internal network?
[23:16] <erUSUL> !install | iCHRYST
[23:16] <moymoy> barracuda: does it mount correctly when you put the discs in?
[23:17] <rhlin99> yeah, I know but will I have the same problem with Ubuntu and d drive as I have know once I install Ubuntu as a virtual?
[23:17] <nsp> jcfreeride: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=688872
[23:17] <jcfreeride> thnx nsp
[23:17] <jon_> My Amarok2 won't play my music, it just skips from song to song. any ideas on what to do?
[23:17] <zvacet> rhlin99 : you need to map drives in virtual box
[23:18] <barracuda> moymoy: don't know yet haven't try it with blueray movies but with dvd it mount ok
[23:18] <jon_> My Amarok2 won't play my music, it just skips from song to song. any ideas on what to do?
[23:19] <buch> anyone ran in to this pidgin problem, where you log on and off randomly - i dont see it my self but people complaining. My router config: Disabled dchp, manually set up of ip, dynDNS.com profile, and 21 port forwarded
[23:19] <jon_> My Amarok2 won't play my music, it just skips from song to song. any ideas on what to do?
[23:19] <o__O> hi
[23:19] <serge> hi
[23:20] <buch> Is there anything i need to change?
[23:20] <serge> Desktop effects stopped working the other day when I updated my system
[23:20] <o__O> how to print to a printer in a network?
[23:20] <smogattack> in korganzizer, how do I change to time from 13:00 to 1:00?
[23:20] <smogattack> the format
[23:20] <serge> I'm using an ATI Radeon HD 4650 card
[23:21] <vaiy> rhlin99, have you installed the guest extensions?
[23:21] <kevb> Didn't I read somewhere that you can setup VNC to offer a webbased client?
[23:21] <nsp> buch: I think you need to give more details
[23:21] <jon_> My Amarok2 won't play my music, it just skips from song to song. any ideas on what to do?
[23:21] <serge> When I go into jockey it tells me 'A different version of this driver is in use' for the FGLRX driver
[23:21] <rhlin99> no
[23:22] <Bulleydog> hi all, i've installed vsftp and got it working but i can't seem to get it to point to the /home/user/ftp directory on login! any ideas ?
[23:22] <vaiy> rhlin99, you have to install those in order to mount the shared folders
[23:22] <serge> and when I try to activate it it says 'This driver was just disabled, but is still in use'
[23:22] <hosified> jon_: sounds like files have been moved/deleted or the drive that they are stored on is no longer available/mounted.
[23:23] <vaiy> rhlin99, check the virtualbox manual
[23:23] <nsp> kevb:  x11vnc - VNC server to allow remote access to an existing X session
[23:23] <rhlin99> do I install the linux additions?
[23:23] <nsp> kevb: xtightvncviewer - virtual network computing client software for X
[23:23] <kevb> nsp: yeah sure, but I read that you could have a webbrowser be the client.
[23:23] <jon_> hosified: they haven't been moved or anything, and the songs play perfect on VLC
[23:23] <nsp> kevb: xvncviewer - Virtual network computing client software for X
[23:23] <kevb> nsp:  I need a windows client.
[23:24] <vaiy> rhlin99, its somewhere in the menu bar when the vm is running
[23:24] <nsp> kevb: tightvnc
[23:24] <buch> nsp: It just seems im getting dc'ed randomly from pidgin, and for a min ago my friend tried to send med someting. It worked only a few min then it stoped. he asked why i log off.. but i didnt
[23:24] <nsp> kevb: It is crossplatform.
[23:24] <hosified> dunno
[23:24] <kevb> Hmm, thought so, it's the one I installed, not seeming to work.
[23:24] <vaiy> rhlin99, in the device menu i think. it mounts a cd image with the extensions installer
[23:24] <TheCheeze> can someone help real quick? i am trying to make a launcher to automatically run a .sh file as an executable
[23:25] <nsp> kevb: http://www.tightvnc.com/download.html
[23:25] <MilitantPotato> erUSUL: echo 45 | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold
[23:25] <MilitantPotato> added to /etc/rc.local  for each CPU, two lines for me one for cpu0 and one for cpu1
[23:25] <kevb> nsp: shoudl tightvnc for windows be able to interface with the preinstalled ubuntu remote desktop?
[23:25] <erUSUL> MilitantPotato: good to know. thanks for lettiong us know
[23:25] <moymoy> TheCheeze: for command to run.. just enter `sh /path/to/file.sh`
[23:25] <nsp> buch: Adjust router settings.
[23:26] <MilitantPotato> erUSUL: np
[23:26] <nsp> kevb: Oh, I don't know about that.
[23:26] <buch> nsp: well in wich directions?
[23:26] <smogattack> in korganzizer, how do I change to time from 13:00 to 1:00? the format.
[23:26] <kevb> nsp: shoudl I instal tightvnc for ubuntu as a server just to be sure?
[23:26] <TheCheeze> moymoy, it pops up a dialog box asking to display or run
[23:26] <nsp> kevb: But should probably connect to x11vnc server
[23:26] <TheCheeze> i am trying to make it auto-run without the box
[23:27] <grkblood13> is there any progs out there on ubuntu that can break rar passwords
[23:27] <bucky> TheCheeze, is the file executable chmod +x
[23:27] <kevb> nsp: can I instal x11vnc server fromt he command line?
[23:27] <nsp> kevb: I don't know, I don't use MS Windows very much.
[23:27] <nsp> kevb: apt-get install x11vnc
[23:27] <nsp> kevb: sudo apt-get install x11vnc
[23:27] <Bacta> How can I add a user to the list of users who can su to root?
[23:27] <hsram> Hello anyone willing to help me. I have an issue with installing the official and open source drivers for my Mobility Radeon 9600 video card. I have followed 2 different guides on installing one or the other and I still get errors pretty much making me resort to using the generic settings but yet it seems to be working for others and I dunno why. The ATI Catalyst application I installed through 'Add/Remove...' is saying that it can't detect t
[23:28] <TheCheeze> yes
[23:28] <moymoy> TheCheeze: even with `sh /path/` is a command.. it should work.. that's weird.. try running `sh /path/to/file.sh` in the terminal and see if it works
[23:28] <TheCheeze> ok
[23:28] <nsp> Bacta: You just create the new user and then afford rights by editing /etc/group
[23:28] <bucky> Bacta, adduser <username> admin
[23:28] <bucky> Bacta, log it in and back out
[23:28] <acicula> hsram: or or and?
[23:28] <Bacta> I've already added the user
[23:28] <Bacta> it's me ;)
[23:29] <bucky> Bacta, did the user log out and back in ?  type groups to see if the user is a member of admin
[23:29] <Bacta> should I be in the "adm" group?
[23:29] <TheCheeze> ok, i was mistaken. i missed the sh at the beginning of that line
[23:29] <TheCheeze> thanks all
[23:29] <hsram> Yea or or and :)
[23:30] <MilitantPotato> erUSUL: I also lowered the sampling_rate to make scaling more responsive
[23:30] <acicula> hsram: i had bad experience trying the binary driver with my 9800 pro, the standard open source version worked fine for 2D though,(and should be enabled by default)
[23:30] <bucky> Bacta, i think you need adm too
[23:30] <hsram> I followed a guide to install the official drivers (got it from the site where the last version actually supported my card)
[23:30] <emilis_info> Is it possible to get current network usage (kB/s) in a shell?
[23:30] <davidius> How can I make a logical partition a primary partition without destroying the data?
[23:30] <nsp> Bacta: In /etc/group add new user to admin line, (and any others as needed).
[23:30] <hsram> No luck there, so I tried the open source drivers
[23:30] <Bacta> Ah wait I see it :)
[23:30] <Bacta> Thanks
[23:30] <acicula> hsram: i'm not really sure the last drivers amd drivers will support it
[23:30] <tangential> hi there,anyone use finger-print auth with aes2501 or other?
[23:30] <g0th> hi
[23:30] <g0th> I am trying to set up thunderbird
[23:30] <g0th> I added 2 accounts
[23:31] <g0th> (and then around 5 more)
[23:31] <g0th> the 2nd account doesnt show up though!
[23:31] <hsram> Also got errors and yea it works fine obviously, but stuff like video playback or flash is so laggy it's pretty much not worth it
[23:31] <acicula> hsram: how do you deduce the open source one doesnt work, does it default to vesa?
[23:31] <g0th> any ideas why not?
[23:31] <nsp> Bacta: Well, not ANY others, look at where the original user is entered - put a comma at the end and add the new user's name.
[23:31] <g0th> if I try to recreate it it complains that the account already exists
[23:31] <g0th> but I cant see it
[23:31] <hsram> I'm not sure, I'm brand new to Linux actually.
[23:31] <hsram> Heard good things about it, so I figured I would try to make the best of it by getting everything up and going like it should
[23:31] <acicula> hsram: i would check if the "current" flgrx drivers still support your 9600
[23:32] <nsp> g0th: You will need to create new inbox directories for each account unless you want them to all go to one.
[23:32] <hsram> Acicula: Where am I able to obtain that information?
[23:32] <acicula> hsram: though i think they should
[23:32] <Guest31541> hsram i dont think current flgrx supports 9600 use 8.10 or VESA drivers
[23:32] <sharperguy> Why do random panel applets fail to load EVERY SINGLE TIME I log into ubuntu?
[23:32] <acicula> hsram: ati releases a supported list with every revision
[23:32] <Deele> hello
[23:33] <acicula> but yeah what Guest31541 said makes sense
[23:33] <Deele> Anyone here, can help me?
[23:33] <sharperguy> !ask
[23:33] <acicula> !ask | deele
[23:33] <Strife89> sharperguy: This happened to me when my hard drive was dying.
[23:33] <g0th> nsp: how do I "un"one them?
[23:33] <moymoy> sharperguy: are you logging out and then logging in? .. i have problems with that too.. you have to do a reboot for them to work
[23:33] <hsram> 8.10 or VESA drivers hmm
[23:33] <hsram> Oh ubuntu 8.10?
[23:33] <sharperguy> moymoy, It happens when I shut down and boot up and log in.
[23:33] <g0th> nsp: resp. how can I specify which smtp servers it should try to download from?
[23:33] <Deele> I need help installing nvidia driver from 180 to 185
[23:33] <sharperguy> Strife89, Well the hard drive better not be dying I've only had it a year
[23:34] <Strife89> !smart
[23:34] <hsram> I'm not sure what 8.10 or VESA is, exactly :/
[23:34] <Deele> I already tried, using given installation steps, but only got black screen, befor logon
[23:34] <Nikelandjelo1> How to make bash show koi8-r charset?
[23:34] <acicula> 8.10 is an older ubuntu, Vesa is the if all else fails load this video driver
[23:34] <Guest31541> hsram basically 9.04 ubuntu comes w. a new flgrx driver which has dropped support for older ATI cards
[23:34] <g0th> nsp: my problem is that I dont even see the account at all
[23:35] <kisame> hola
[23:35] <erUSUL> !es | kisame
[23:35] <kisame> hi
[23:36] <Deele> So, everyone can say, to ask a normal question, but when I ask, noone answers
[23:36] <erUSUL> Deele: use envyng ?
[23:36] <kisame> are you teachers
[23:36] <erUSUL> Deele: we can only suport the drivers shipped with the ubuntu release.
[23:36] <erUSUL> !envyng
[23:37] <nsp> g0th: http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/
[23:37] <blendmaster1024_> too all who own iphones: http://www.iphone-hacks.com/2008/11/28/openiboot-%E2%80%94-linux-on-the-iphone/
[23:37] <kisame> are you hacker
[23:37] <hsram> Ty both, I can try that :)
[23:37] <erUSUL> kisame: f you have a support question. ask away
[23:37] <kisame> are you hacker
[23:38] <IdleOne> yes
[23:38] <hsram> However it seems I have to use 8.04 since 8.10 isn't available it seems
[23:38] <acicula> lies
[23:38] <Deele> Ok, I am installing envyng...
[23:38] <acicula> hsram: it should be
[23:38] <bigDaddy> just dont get why Flash is so much slower on laptop nv9100m vs. integrated graphics on a 50$ xp box...
[23:38] <erUSUL> !intel | bigDaddy maybe some intel issues ?
[23:39] <kaiser10123> im in live cd how do i fix my grub after installing windows
[23:39] <IdleOne> !fixgrub
[23:39] <erUSUL> !grub | kaiser10123
[23:39] <hsram> Found it, thanks acicula and guest :)
[23:39] <ubuntu_irc> how to install ubuntu from windows?
[23:40] <kisame> who hacks msn
[23:40] <kisame> who hacks msn
[23:40] <erUSUL> !wubi | ubuntu_irc
[23:40] <erUSUL> !ot | kisame
[23:40] <IdleOne> kisame: we dont hack here. we help people with ubuntu support questions
[23:40] <kisame> who hacks msn
[23:40] <kisame> who hacks msn
[23:40] <kisame> who hacks msn
[23:40] <FloodBot3> kisame: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:41] <acicula> hsram: 8.04 is the current lts release so should be available for some time, google ubuntu 8,04 should land you an iso
[23:41] <ubuntu_irc> anyone there , how can i install ubuntu 9.04 from windows c:\ drive ? is it possible ?
[23:41] <IdleOne> !upgrade > hsram
[23:41] <MilitantPotato> ubuntu_irc: Wubi
[23:41] <ubuntu_irc> erUSUL: how can i install ubuntu 9.04 from windows c:\ drive ? is it possible ?not wubi, making live cd
[23:41] <IdleOne> ubuntu_irc: http://wubi-installer.org/support.php
[23:41] <erUSUL> ubuntu_irc: you have to burn the iso to a cd/dvd
[23:42] <jon_> hosified: they haven't been moved or anything, and the songs play perfect on VLC
[23:42] <o__O> hi can i use ppd file from Mac for my printer?
[23:42] <jon_> My Amarok2 won't play my music, it just skips from song to song. any ideas on what to do?
[23:42] <erUSUL> o__O: System>Administration>Printers
[23:42] <MilitantPotato> ubuntu_irc: needs to be a CD/DVD, or if your motherboard supports booting from them, a flash drive
[23:42] <o__O> erUSUL, cant find my printer listed in there
[23:42] <g0th> nsp: that page doesnt help much so far, I didnt find anything yet related to my problem. I am not even sure what my problem is...
[23:42] <sebsebseb> ubuntu_irc: don't do Wubi
[23:42] <g0th> if I know I could sovle it rather quickly most probably
[23:42] <Strife89> o__O: Clever nick. :)
[23:42] <Deele> Ok, started envyng, Tried "Install the NVIDIA driver" but it only shows possibilities to install only drivers up to current version
[23:43] <kisame> I can hack wifi ?
[23:43] <ubuntu_irc> MilitantPotato: erUSUL : IdleOne : sebsebseb: i don't want to use cd , usb , want to install from hard disk
[23:43] <erUSUL> o__O: but you can install the ppd... Server>New>Printer
[23:43] <acicula> kisame: offtopic, go to a more apropriate channel
[23:43] <IdleOne> ubuntu_irc: follow this link http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and read
[23:43] <ubuntu_irc> MilitantPotato: erUSUL : IdleOne : sebsebseb: i don't want to use cd , usb ,wubi, want to install from hard disk
[23:44] <IdleOne> ubuntu_irc: you cant
[23:44] <sebsebseb> ubuntu_irc: you can't just do that kind of thing,  I think there may be a way to make a  CDFS or something  that has your ISO contents and then install,   but  yes  that's an actsaul partition for that
[23:44] <nsp> kisame: http://www.kismetwireless.net/
[23:44] <erUSUL> o__O: some printers work with driver from others a good resource is linuxprinting.org
[23:44] <MilitantPotato> ubuntu_irc: no way, it needs to boot to a Live_Cd inviroment
[23:44] <sebsebseb> !install |  ubuntu_irc
[23:45] <erUSUL> ubuntu_irc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[23:45] <tamer> !paste
[23:45] <kisame> I can hack wifi
[23:45] <kisame>  ?
[23:45] <Strife89> ubuntu_irc: Specifically, see this page: http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
[23:45] <nsp> ! wifi | kisame
[23:45] <ubuntu_irc> IdleOne: it's possible to install other linux distro from hard disk, why isn't it possible for ubuntu ?
[23:45] <Deele> Hello? How to make envyng install newest nvidia driver avilable?
[23:45] <kisame> aircrack
[23:45] <IdleOne> ubuntu_irc: pay attention to the links people are giving you please
[23:45] <MilitantPotato> ubuntu_irc: http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html, from what sebsebseb posted
[23:45] <kisame> hack wifi
[23:46] <Strife89> ubuntu_irc: It _appears_ to be possible, but you need to do a little work.
[23:46] <IdleOne> !es | kisame
[23:46] <kisame> aircrack
[23:46] <kisame> hack wifi
[23:46] <blendmaster1024_> again, to all iphone owners: http://www.iphone-hacks.com/2008/11/28/openiboot-%E2%80%94-linux-on-the-iphone/
[23:46] <IdleOne> blendmaster1024_: quit it
[23:46] <Strife89> kisame: You might want to look at WireShark.
[23:46] <MilitantPotato> kisame: you're going to get banned...
[23:46] <blendmaster1024_> no
[23:46] <blendmaster1024_> kick me
[23:46] <blendmaster1024_> somebody say "read it" and i'll stop
[23:47] <IdleOne> erUSUL: blendmaster1024_
[23:47] <Strife89> blendmaster1024_: I read it, it's interesting.
[23:47] <Deele> How to make envyng install newest nvidia driver avilable?
[23:47] <detonation> Alright, I have an issue here with my 1000he. I'm having an issue with eepc-acpi turning off power to my wireless card not even a cold boot will fix
[23:47] <detonation> Jaunty 904 with the new kernel (when this started happening) has a suspend issue with my wireless card (module ath9k). after a suspend, it turns the wireless card off to the point it doesn't show up on lspci anymore. I have to reboot into windows and reenable it, then go back into linux to get it to see. A simple reboot does nothing. I have up to date everything including eepc-acpi-utilities. Any ideas?
[23:47] <erUSUL> IdleOne: ? i'm only op in #ubuntu-es i'm afraid
[23:47] <IdleOne> erUSUL: sorry
[23:47] <nsp> kisame: kismet - Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool
[23:47] <sebsebseb> erUSUL: I was thinking of telling him something like that :)
[23:47] <erUSUL> IdleOne: no problem
[23:48] <acicula> detonation: disable/enable wireless does not fix it?
[23:48] <acicula> via nm-applet
[23:48] <Strife89> detonation: Sounds like a firmware issue, but that's all I can really tell you.
[23:48] <nsp> kisame: What is your native language?
[23:48] <detonation> acicula, after a suspend, lspci doesn't even show the wireless card.
[23:48] <acicula> detonation: dunno then :/
[23:48] <ubuntu_irc> MilitantPotato: i will try that
[23:48] <detonation> acicula, I have to boot to windows and re-enable it using the hotkeys, then go back to linux.
[23:48] <Deele> erUSUL
[23:48] <MilitantPotato> ubuntu_irc: have fun
[23:48] <kevb> Can anybody help with vnc?  I'm using default ubuntu vnc server under prefernces>remote desktop, and tight vnc for windows as a client.  it's failign to connect
[23:49] <ubuntu_irc> Strife89: what's the process? is it http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
[23:49] <Strife89> nsp: kisame left.
[23:49] <erUSUL> Deele: yes ?
[23:49] <Strife89> ubuntu_irc: Pretty much.
[23:49] <acicula> detonation: i ahd to do that for bluetooth, but only to permanently enabledisable, so iunno
[23:49] <detonation> I didn't have an issue with it until I did the kernel upgrade
[23:49] <jon_> My Amarok2 won't play my music, it just skips from song to song. any ideas on what to do?
[23:49] <nsp> Strife89: tnx
[23:49] <kevb> anybody know if this combination should work?
[23:49] <detonation> After that, shtf and it's very, very annoying. Nay, unuseable like this
[23:50] <detonation> jon_ install ffmpeg package
[23:50] <jon_> I did
[23:50] <erUSUL> jon_: install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[23:50] <quantum> I have an issue with 2 nic's and SIOCADDRT: No such process
[23:50] <detonation> install phonos as well
[23:50] <tilde> Hi all.  I have an old computer on my home network with Ubuntu installed.  I know the username and password, but the video card is broken.  Rather than find a replacement, I just want to go in blind and install sshd on it so I can login remotely.  After logging in, I type Ctrl+Alt+F1, then login and type 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server' followed by my password, but it doesn't work.  Any suggestions?
[23:50] <jon_> It's been working for me since I installed it with 9.04
[23:50] <jon_> It just stopped last night
[23:50] <acicula> tilde: hit Y and enter?
[23:50] <nsp> quantum: "No such process">?
[23:50] <acicula> err y will do
[23:51] <acicula> (after the password ;)
[23:51] <quantum> yeah
[23:51] <detonation> jon_ check all your volume sliders.
[23:51] <quantum> * if-up.d/mountnfs[eth0]: waiting for interface eth1 before doing NFS mounts
[23:51] <jon_> My music plays on VLC
[23:51] <Butterfly> /tmp/jdk-6u10-docs.zip could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences.   What am I looking for?
[23:51] <^Phantom^> Movie player stopped playing sound.  Everything else seems to be working.  How can I diagnose this problem?
[23:51] <jon_> so it's nothing to do with volume
[23:51] <^Phantom^> jon_, nope.
[23:51] <MilitantPotato> jon_:  I had to clear the playlist and re-load my library the other day after re-installing amarok
[23:51] <erUSUL> ^Phantom^: run mplayer from cli ? see the msgs it prints
[23:52] <vipx1> It should work kevb on port 5900, firewalls need to be off or have 5900 open
[23:52] <nsp> tilde: What doesn't work?
[23:52] <jon_> I did that MilitantPotato
[23:52] <jon_> :P
[23:52] <Deele> erUSUL, Main problem is that software is refusing to start, saying my driver or video card does not support so many textures, or smth like that, so I want to update my video card driver, cause I know, my video card can support that software (in windowsxp), So, I found that latest driver for nvidia is 185... but at the moment, I have 180 version. CAnt find any 185 nvidia driver at synaptic package manager default, but got instructions from internet, how to set
[23:52] <MilitantPotato> jon_:  have the codecs needed?
[23:52] <tilde> acicula: well, i also tried 'cat /bin/bash > /dev/dsp' to send sound to my headphones, but i don't hear anything.  The only thing I know for sure is that my initial login works because I can hear the Ubuntu intro music through my headphones.
[23:52] <jon_> I haven't uninstalled anything, and it was working yesterday
[23:52] <kevb> vipx1, if i turn firewalls off, ICS goes down.
[23:52] <MilitantPotato> jon_: is your drive mounted?
[23:53] <erUSUL> Deele: 400 chars max iirc
[23:53] <jon_> Yes
[23:53] <erUSUL> Deele: envyng does not work ?
[23:53] <jon_> I have VLC playing music now
[23:53] <^Phantom^> Oh, I figured it out.
[23:53] <jon_> and if you mean like a flash drive
[23:53] <jon_> then no
[23:53] <tilde> nsp: well, it's still refusing the ssh connection, so something didn't work.  I'm operating blind, so all i can use for output until i get sshd set up is my headphones.
[23:53] <jon_> all my music is on the HDD
[23:53] <bigDaddy> ubottu: love the nick; prob is on amd64 turion, nv 9100 card - its lots slower than an xp box with integrated intel graphics
[23:53] <nsp> kevb: kevb port 5900 should already be open.
[23:53] <Deele> erUSUL, when I start it, push button 1, it shows only 0      | 180.44-0ubuntu1    | 180.44-0ubuntu1   | +          | +           |
[23:53] <vipx1> Then open port 5900, what fire wall is it? I'm not fimilar with ICS but I use VNC everyday in work
[23:53] <^Phantom^> I somehow changed my sound settings.  Thank you anyway.
[23:54] <acicula> tilde: afaik when you apt-get it asks for confirmaition, pressing enter a few times should work
[23:54] <erUSUL> !nvidia | Deele
[23:54] <uccadmin> I realize this is an Ubuntu channel, and this is only somewhat related so I might not get any help but here goes
[23:54] <nsp> tilde: Headphones?
[23:54] <tilde> acicula: okay let me give that a try.. i'll report back shortly.
[23:54] <uccadmin> Does anyone have any experience setting up a DRBL server in an Ubuntu environment?
[23:54] <kevb> nsp, yeah it is.
[23:54] <tilde> nsp: headphones hooked up to my mobo's speaker-out jack
[23:54] <jon_> MilitantPotato: any more ideas :P
[23:55] <Butterfly> Any body?  Change association?  What am I looking for? Where do I find it?
[23:55] <bigDaddy> gdaddy
[23:55] <Deele> erUSUL, can you explain in two words, what is Binary Driver?
[23:55] <quantum> nsp?
[23:55] <t3ckn0b0y> zero one
[23:55] <erUSUL> Deele: a propietary one that only comes in binary form as opposed as any other one that we (the open source community) have the source code for
[23:55] <erUSUL> Deele: the last option is to do a manual install https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[23:56] <MilitantPotato> jon_: uninstall. remove the ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok directory, then re-install?
[23:56] <sim_> my fellow ubuntu dorks...klibido or Pan ??
[23:56] <Perversion> !register
[23:56] <acicula> try both?
[23:56] <erUSUL> Deele: this is not adviced. the install will brake with some updates and you will have to reinstall from command line
[23:56] <IdleOne> sim_: i'm a geek and not a dork and try both
[23:56] <sim_> idleone same thing
[23:56] <sim_> dork///geek
[23:56] <bigDaddy> ubottu: love the nick; prob is on amd64 turion, nv 9100 card - its lots slower than an xp box with integrated intel graphics
[23:56] <erUSUL> Deele: maybe you shoukld troubleshot a little more why the app does not work ? with the 180 drivers
[23:57] <sim_> i rther not waste time :P
[23:57] <acicula> sim_: wrong, check a dictionary
[23:57] <Deele> erUSUL, I think, there is deeper problem, with Wine and COD4 compatablity :)))
[23:57] <tilde> acicula: not working.  I have reason to believe that i never get logged in to the virtual terminal in the first place, since 'cat /bin/bash > /dev/dsp' doesn't work.
[23:57] <erUSUL> !appdb | Deele check here
[23:57] <IdleOne> bigDaddy: ubottu is a robot, does not understand you.
[23:57] <acicula> tilde: dunno then :/
[23:57] <bigDaddy> copy
[23:58] <Deele> erUSUL, good one
[23:58] <tilde> Can anyone tell me a surefire way to get a terminal prompt after logging in to Ubuntu blind (i.e. with no monitor)?  I've tried Ctrl+Alt+F1 but it doesn't seem to be working.
[23:58] <bigDaddy> does anyone else have any complaints about flash being slow in Jaunty or am i in twilight zone? heh
[23:59] <vipx1> control alt F6 is terminal
[23:59] <erUSUL> tilde boot into recovery mode ? no login needed also
[23:59] <vipx1> Then login, username then password