[18:08] <abhijit_> philinux, i was disconnected
[18:08] <jon__> rob_p: i did that already
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> Aranel:  http://hothardware.com/Reviews/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-465-Debut-EVGA-Zotac/?page=11   looks like a good review.
[18:08] <jon__> rob_p: could it have anything to do with resolv.conf?
[18:08] <abhijit> philinux, for pgadmin3: pgadmin3: relocation error: pgadmin3: symbol _ZN21wxMemoryFSHandlerBase19AddFileWithMimeTypeERK8wxStringPKvmS2_, version WXU_2.8 not defined in file libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0 with link time reference
[18:08] <abhijit> philinux,  codelite: relocation error: /usr/lib/codelite/libpluginu.so: symbol _ZN13wxAuiNotebook7SetFontERK6wxFont, version WXU_2.8 not defined in file libwx_gtk2u_aui-2.8.so.0 with link time reference
[18:08] <rob_p> jon__: resolv.conf is for name resolution of external hosts.
[18:08] <Underscore_> So can I shrink the windows partition from the Ubuntu LiveCD itself?
[18:08] <abhijit> philinux, any idea?
[18:09] <Aranel> Dr_Willis: I'm sorry If I'm flooding you with questions but last one: is GTX465 (and newer) are supported on Ubuntu?
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> Underscore_:  that  is how most people do it.
[18:09] <jon__> rob_p: ohh, then any idea why?
[18:09] <rob_p> jon__: It should contain your nameserver(s)
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> Aranel:   most nvidia cards are.
[18:09] <kop__> actually have a question this time How can I tell this brain dead update monitor to leave Grub alone and ignore google chrome ?
[18:09] <Underscore_> Dr_Willis: So they don't use Windows at all?
[18:09] <jon__> rob_p: no in fact it contains example.com in resolv.conf
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> Aranel:  check the forums see if anyone has had issues with them
[18:09] <ooxoo> hi
[18:09] <ooxoo> I have problem with cron
[18:09] <brummbaer> a3dman: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/maverick/alpha-2/
[18:09] <rob_p> jon__: No.  Not at the moment.  Let me try a couple of things...
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> Underscore_:  gparted and its parted cli version can resize ntfs.
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> !details | ooxoo
[18:09] <ooxoo> I put the following in crontab:    * * * * * /usr/bin/php <path to script>
[18:09] <Besogon> How can I use xchat with NAT is turned on with a router?
[18:10] <brummbaer> or better yet a3dman: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/maverick/alpha-2/MD5SUMS
[18:10] <Aranel> Dr_Willis: thank you for your help :) I'm gonna buy a NV card, I don't know which one to buy but I'll definitely find out :)
[18:10] <ooxoo> doesn't get executed...
[18:10] <a3Dman> thanks
[18:10] <philinux> abhijit: is this maverick or lucid
[18:10] <abhijit> philinux, lucid
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> ooxoo: if you use gnome-shedule you can setup a cron using a gui
[18:10] <geirha> ooxoo: Shouldn't that be php -f script?
[18:10] <Underscore_> Dr_Willis: So is that possible by just inserting the CD I used to test out Ubuntu? Or do I need to burn a new LiveCD especially with the correct software on it?
[18:10] <ooxoo> geirha, sorry but what is the -f for ?
[18:10] <ovnicraft> hi folks i installed pg8.4 in 10.04
[18:10] <ovnicraft> but i cant run pg
[18:10] <ovnicraft> i cant find data dir
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> ovnicraft: what's pg?
[18:11] <ovnicraft> postgresql-8.4 RDBMS
[18:11] <abhijit> ovnicraft, install pgadmin3 its gui interface
[18:11] <kerebrus> texastwister how do I go about editing mount point permisisons?
[18:11] <ovnicraft> abhijit, fo what?
[18:11] <kop__> actually have a question this time How can I tell this brain dead update monitor to leave Grub alone and ignore google chrome ?
[18:11] <geirha> ooxoo: From php's man-page: -f file        Parse and execute file
[18:11] <philinux> abhijit: not a clue. There is a bug report for maverick so no good for you
[18:11] <ovnicraft> abhijit, do you nkopw my problem? to suggest me that?
[18:11] <ZykoticK9> kerebrus, for what filesystem?
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> ovnicraft: cool, please dont abbreviate like that unless its a defacto acronym like tcp or snmp etc
[18:11] <abhijit> ovnicraft, so you can do all task in gui.
[18:11] <ooxoo> geirha, ok... thanks
[18:11] <Hilikus> anyone knows if its possible to rdesktop to a dual screen server?
[18:11] <ovnicraft> ActionParsnip, i cant run the server
[18:12] <abhijit> philinux, ohhh. so what should i dot now in order get those program running?
[18:12] <kerebrus> ZykoticK9 ext3 and ntfs
[18:12] <ovnicraft> i cant find the data dir
[18:12] <Pici> ovnicraft: How did you install it?
[18:12] <philinux> abhijit: does the OS run ok even with these erros
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> ovnicraft: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL   may help
[18:12] <Underscore> (sorry, disconnected) Dr_Willis: So is that possible by just inserting the CD I used to test out Ubuntu? Or do I need to burn a new LiveCD especially with the correct software on it?
[18:12] <rgnr> hey ppl
[18:12] <rgnr> i just dualboot windows and linux
[18:12] <rgnr> but after i updated grub windows dowsn't boot up
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> Underscore:  what correct softweare? You can try a live cd if you want. but none of them come with the nvidia drivers.
[18:12] <ovnicraft> try to run the script in init.d dont run
[18:12] <rgnr> but restarts the machine instead
[18:12] <abhijit> philinux, yes os runs fine. only problem with some application softwares such as pgadmin3 and codelite
[18:12] <rob_p> jon__: What does your /etc/resolv.conf file look like?  What you said doesn't sound right.
[18:12] <Pici> ovnicraft: Did you install it from the repositories?
[18:12] <ovnicraft> pici apt-get install posgresql
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> Underscore:  or install to a flash drive to let you fully install the restricted drivers and so forth to test it out
[18:12] <cwhaleyjr> is a console screen driven by the same driver as your X screen? for instance if you use cntr alt f1 to get a full screen console?
[18:12] <ZykoticK9> kerebrus, for ext3 just change the permission on the mount point, for ntfs i can't help - consult the NTFS mounting documentation...  good luck.
[18:13] <philinux> abhijit: I ssume you've tried purging and reinstalling them
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> rgnr: ease up on the enter key, champ
[18:13] <abhijit> philinux, yah tried for pgadmin3. but no success.
[18:13] <jon__> rob_p: search example.com \n nameserver x.x.x.x
[18:13] <kerebrus> ZykoticK9 problem is I dont know how to change the permissions as my question earlier stated.
[18:13] <Underscore> Dr_Willis: I'm trying to partition the drive, though o_O
[18:13] <ovnicraft> ActionParsnip, that site is poor
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> cwhaleyjr:  no it is not. the console is not being conrolled by X, it can be using the 'framebuffer' however.
[18:13] <kerebrus> ZykoticK9 changing the settings is what got me into this mess.
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> rgnr: try running: sudo update-grub   see if it detects it in the output
[18:13] <kop__> actually have a question this time How can I tell this brain dead update manager to leave Grub alone and ignore google chrome ?
[18:13] <ZykoticK9> kerebrus, for the ext for ntfs?
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> Underscore:  i use the various live cd's to reparittion windows all the time. gparted also has its own 'gparted live cd' and other variants
[18:13] <ovnicraft> i want to know when the installation run the initdb in any script to create the postgres user and data core
[18:13] <philinux> abhijit: what about removing it's .config folder in home
[18:14] <abhijit> philinux, after removing using purge do i need to logout and login to reinstall it? or i can just start install in next line?
[18:14] <ovnicraft> what is the script what does that?
[18:14] <abhijit> philinux, let me try
[18:14] <ZykoticK9> kerebrus, s/for ntfs/or ntfs
[18:14] <ovnicraft> if here anyone know it off course
[18:14] <ysis> Hi, I'd like to transfer an existing Xubuntu 10.04 installation to a new computer (new HDD, new processor, etc.) Since it's a multi-user system how would you proceed? Creating the users and then just copying the home directories?
[18:14] <Underscore> Dr_Willis: So i need that one, right? Not the generic Ubuntu desktop install liveCD?
[18:14] <FabParma> to store data only, it is better ext2 or ext3?
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> ovnicraft: have you asked in #pgp
[18:14] <jon__> rob_p: to be more exact, the fqdn i want is s1.example.net when the one shown in the system is s1.example.com
[18:14] <cwhaleyjr> text from grub looks normal but after linux loads everything is blurry except the Xscreen
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> FabParma: what sort of disk is the data going to be on?
[18:14] <saegeoff> FabParma:  ext3 is newer and better to protect against corruption
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> Underscore:  the ubuntu live cd.. can work fine. You may need to install gparted.. but the installer should also be able to resize
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> FabParma: ext2 is better for flash drives as it makes them last longer due to no journal
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> Underscore:  in mot sure what your 'original' problems are that you are having so many issues...
[18:15] <jon__> rob_p: and when i nslookup s1.example.net, it returns me s1.example.net.example.com
[18:15] <ovnicraft> ActionParsnip, yes they tell that ubuntu has init script
[18:15] <kerebrus> ZykoticK9 I used gparted to change the partition type and filesystem on one of my drives from ntfs to ext3 when I remounted the drive the user no longer had control of the device, I was told to edit my mount permissions, so I edited my fstabm, but now even though it says user has full rwx I cant do anything to the drives
[18:15] <rob_p> jon__: Is example.com valid on your network?  Comment out the search directive and leave your nameservers and see if it makes a difference.
[18:15] <ovnicraft> to do it for me
[18:15] <ovnicraft> but it doesnt
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> ovnicraft: ok, have you tried a reboot since the install?
[18:15] <abhijit> philinux, after removing using purge do i need to logout and login to reinstall it? or i can just start install in next line?
[18:15] <jon__> rob_p: no, example.com points to another domain not owned by me
[18:15] <Underscore> Dr_Willis: Ok, I'll just give it a shot. Basically windows isn't letting me shrink the drive, and I can't defrag it down to 0%. So I needed another way to shrink/partition.
[18:15] <jon__> rob_p: example.net is the domain owned by me
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> kerebrus:  when you use ext2/3/4 You need to set the permissions/ownership of the dirs and files On teh filesystem. Not alter the fstab
[18:16] <ovnicraft> ActionParsnip, in unix world you dont reboor to get a service up just run the daemon and works
[18:16] <philinux> abhijit: never used that app before so dont know
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Underscore: ask in ##windows for extra defrag tools
[18:16] <ovnicraft> i think ubuntu works like that
[18:16] <jon__> rob_p: if it helps, i actually just installed direactadmin on a fresh install of ubuntu 10.02
[18:16] <abhijit> philinux, no. i am asking about sudo apt-get remove --purge thing
[18:16] <atxq> hey, I am looking for some application that lets me check my email on the command line
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> ovnicraft: its free to try, might make it nice. I'm fully aware of the no reboot NIX mantra
[18:16] <atxq> any suggestions?
[18:16] <rob_p> jon__: So you run your own nameserver for example.net and that is the box providing authoritative answers for example.net?
[18:16] <ZykoticK9> kerebrus, could you pastebin your /etc/fstab and the output of "mount"?
[18:16] <Underscore> ActionParsnip: I did try there first, no one answered my question :/ But I'm going to try GParted from the boot CD anyway.
[18:17] <jon__> rob_p: emm meaning?
[18:17] <kop__> Underscore, sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs as well as gpartd
[18:17] <philinux> abhijit: no just reinstall . sudo apt-get purge XXX is all you need the reinstall
[18:17] <ovnicraft> ActionParsnip, are you telling me that daemon is not working?
[18:17] <rob_p> jon__: Also, why do you have search example.com in your resolv.conf?
[18:17] <ovnicraft> need reboot?
[18:17] <SubCool> Could someone assist me make this Very simple instructions work? http://www.davelachapelle.ca/guides/ubuntu-tightvnc-server/ - i cant do : -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root or
[18:17] <jon__> rob_p: i have no idea why
[18:17] <abhijit> philinux, okk
[18:17] <rob_p> jon__: Get rid of it! :-)
[18:17] <spitzi> Hi all.
[18:17] <jon__> oh okay
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> ovnicraft: i'm just saying a reboot may fix it, you can check running daemons etc and you can restart them too
[18:18] <atxq> I installed sendemail, but wanted something that I can read/send emails through cli
[18:18] <sha1sum> okay this is strange but my username was removed from sudoers
[18:18] <sha1sum> how can I get it back in?
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> ovnicraft: you can ask in the other channel what file the app is looking for
[18:18] <ovnicraft> ActionParsnip, i am feel like windows user in ubuntu with gnome faces
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> atxq: mutt
[18:18] <jon__> rob_p: thanks, you're a lifesaver (:
[18:18] <atxq> thanks, will check
[18:18] <kop__> How can I tell this brain dead update manager to leave Grub alone and ignore google chrome ?
[18:18] <jon__> rob_p: hostname --fqdn now gives me example.net
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> ovnicraft: its free to try, if a reboot is convenient then go for it
[18:18] <ovnicraft> ActionParsnip, i want to know what is the script in deb file what configure the posgtgesql for me
[18:18] <kerebrus> ZykoticK9 http://pastebin.com/ux5z0KqS
[18:18] <ZykoticK9> sha1sum, in a terminal type "groups" are you in the admin group?  that is what determines sudo access.
[18:18] <rob_p> jon__: Great!
[18:18] <kop__> ovnicraft, this odd feeling will pass my son ...
[18:19] <abhijit> philinux, i done purge to codelite but no success. still same error. :(
[18:19] <hisham|> What's up geeks ?
[18:19] <spitzi> I've installed matlab on my Ubuntu 9.04. I can invoke it from a terminal as "$HOME/matlab/bin/matlab". However, if I create a Launcher that invokes the same command, matlab briefly shows a splash screen and then terminates. Huh ?
[18:19] <Hilikus> anyone knows if its possible to rdesktop to a dual screen remote desktop server?
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> kop__: well if you get a kernel upgrade it wont be added to the boot list so you will always boot the same kernel
[18:19] <Hilikus> i'm using tsclient
[18:19] <sha1sum> ZykoticK9: no. I know how to add myself to that group but the problem is I will need sudo access to do it right?
[18:19] <philinux> abhijit: Are thes apps from the regular ubuntu repo or ppa
[18:19] <sha1sum> I mean, I suppose I could su in but I don't know the root pass
[18:19] <ovnicraft> kop_, windows sucks maybe ubuntu less bit
[18:19] <abhijit> philinux, regular repo
[18:19] <jon__> rob_p: im quite new to these stuff. just got my first dedicated server... whats the best practice for the fqdn.. say the fqdn is s1.example.net
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Hilikus: yes, what OS is the server?
[18:20] <kop__> ActionParsnip, I just can't use grub2 here , yet
[18:20] <Hilikus> ActionParsnip: windows
[18:20] <picard1421> im looking for hte kde4-dev package
[18:20] <experiMENTAL> hi. how to reply on xchat with 1 click (how to get "someone:" on command line)?
[18:20] <picard1421> what is the right name for the kde4-dev package???
[18:20] <philinux> abhijit: did it start after a kernel upgrade?
[18:20] <sha1sum> ZykoticK9: I think I might have messed this up trying to add myself to another group and didn't append to groups but replaced
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> kop__: grub legacy is still available in repos
[18:20] <jon__> rob_p: do i need to make sure s1.example.net resolve?
[18:20] <picard1421> for apt-get
[18:20] <quigybo> spitzi: use matlab -desktop
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Hilikus: then I'd ask in ##windows to see if the protocol supports the dual screen etc
[18:20] <Hilikus> ActionParsnip: it does. i already know that
[18:20] <abhijit> philinux, no after that day kubutu removing stuff you gave me that web site link. remember? i was useful but it creates some side effects
[18:21] <Hilikus> i just need to make the client request the dual screen mode
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Hilikus: then connect and it should be fine
[18:21] <ZykoticK9> kerebrus, ok, so what is the permission you want to give?  you could add user to fstab to give all users access to mount/umount the drive.  and or you may need to alter the permission on the mount point /media/sdc1.
[18:21] <rob_p> jon__: That's a valid fqdn so I don't know what you mean.  Yes, of course you want to make it resolve if it's valid.
[18:21] <RyanP> I have an interactive script that I have a need to run from within the initramfs. If I boot using break=init and run the script, it works fine. If I change the boot scripts to run my script, the script runs but doesn't accept input. What's going on?
[18:21] <jon__> rob_p: resolve as in, when i enter http://s1.example.net, it should point to the server's IP?
[18:21] <kerebrus> ZykoticK9 well I would like full permission over the drives, including mount/unmount writing to the drive, etc...
[18:22] <rob_p> jon__: In your zone file for your domain, simply create an, "A" record for s1.example.net and you're golden.
[18:22] <hisham|> What's up geeks ?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Hilikus: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/rdesktop-w-dual-monitors-657775/
[18:22] <rob_p> jon__: Yes, exactly.
[18:22] <sha1sum> Is there a way to find the root password if you've been removed from sudoers accidentally?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Hilikus: looks like you have to specify the geometry of the desktop you are connecting to
[18:22] <bastidrazor> sha1sum: Ubuntu doesn't have a root password.
[18:22] <cwhaleyjr> if X uses a X server what does the console use?>
[18:22] <kop__> ActionParsnip, I know legacy grub is still in repos I just get tired of repeatedly having to tell this gui to ignore the upgrade to grub2 which then requires a near reinstall on the base OS (don't ask _ my dumb mistake)
[18:22] <ZykoticK9> sha1sum, if you need too, boot to Recovery Mode (hold down shift while computer starts to get grub if you are using grub2).  but you need to be in the admin group in order to use sudo.
[18:22] <philinux> abhijit: not sure what to suggest other than install kubuntu-desktop. I dont think those apps have any kde dependencies.
[18:23] <frxstrem> how can I create .zip files in Ubuntu (from command line)?
[18:23] <abhijit> philinux, ohhh. we just did lots of things that day to remove kubuntu. now i dont want to install it again. :(
[18:23] <sha1sum> ZykoticK9: gotcha thanks.
[18:23] <spitzi> quigybo - thanks, that did the trick. Is "-desktop" a common CLI option or a matlab quirk ?
[18:23] <rgnr> ActionParsnip:  i ran it after rebooted to linux again
[18:23] <jon__> rob_p: hmm using http://www.simpledns.com/lookup-dg.aspx, i've traced s1.example.net and it ended up at "Answer: A-record for s1.example.net = [ip of server]"
[18:23] <philinux> abhijit: is your home on it's own partition
[18:23] <quigybo> spitzi: matlab quirk :P
[18:23] <jon__> rob_p: and "Authority: NS-record for s1.example.net = dns1.example.net"
[18:24] <abhijit> philinux, no all in one / partition
[18:24] <jon__> rob_p: but when i type the address into the url it doesnt resolve
[18:24] <asdfasdfasdfasdf>  hello i have a 5.2 home theatre connected through spdif to pc, when i listen to mp3 files quality it's a bit bad but when i play movies the sounds it's better, if i connect pc to home theatre through analog ports will i get better sound quality?
[18:24] <kop__> ActionParsnip, I know legacy grub is still in repos I just get tired of repeatedly having to tell this gui to ignore google chrome as well If I ever find the moron that added that ppa all his base will belong to me
[18:24] <quigybo> spitzi: 'matlab' it is actually a bash launcher script
[18:24] <rob_p> jon__: If the IP is correct for your host, then you are good to go.
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> kop__: http://pastie.org/1067378   try that
[18:24] <rob_p> jon__: What do you mean it doesn't resolve?  There's nothing to resolve if you put in the IP!
[18:25] <jon__> rob_p: as in, if i type s1.example.net in the browser, the default apache page doesnt come up
[18:25] <rgnr> c'mon have noone encountered such problem?
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> asdfasdfasdfasdf: 5.2 ? nice
[18:25] <sha1sum> ZykoticK9: can you give me to correct command to ADD myself to the "admin" group instead of replacing all groups? I don't want to make the same mistake twice
[18:25] <philinux> abhijit: I wwould have suggested a reinstall with home on it's own partition But I'm at a loss
[18:25] <rob_p> jon__: So if you put in the IP, does it come up then?
[18:25] <jon__> rob_p: oh could it be due to dns cache on my side?
[18:25] <quigybo> spitzi: http://www.mathworks.com/access/helpdesk/help/techdoc/ref/matlabunix.shtml
[18:25] <sha1sum> I was using: "usermod -G group user"
[18:26] <cwhaleyjr>  if X uses a X server what does the console use?>
[18:26] <jon__> rob_p: "Oops! Google Chrome could not find s1.example.net"
[18:26] <abhijit> philinux, you mean reinstall ubuntu? :-o
[18:26] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> ActionParsnip, not nice if you can't hear music properly =(
[18:26] <rob_p> jon__: Dont use your browser for DNS testing.  Use, 'dig'
[18:26] <bastidrazor> sha1sum: adduser sha1sum admin
[18:26] <lance_> Hi - I need a help to format my pendrive
[18:26] <ZykoticK9> kerebrus, i'd be tempted to change the line in fstab to "/dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1  ext2  rw,user 0  0" but i'm not 100% on that one (can anyone conform?  changed default to rw,user)
[18:26] <sha1sum> bastidrazor: so adduser does that rather than usermod?
[18:26] <rob_p> jon__: ...as in, "dig example.net", etc.
[18:26] <philinux> abhijit: not sure what you did before I gave you the psychocats link. That should just remove kde stuff
[18:27] <jon__> rob_p: im on windows, so i guess nslookup? i got "DD-WRT can't find s1.example.net: Non-existent domain"
[18:27] <bastidrazor> sha1sum: adduser will add a group to your user yes.
[18:27] <abhijit> philinux, :D
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> rgnr: I dont dual boot, so no Ive never had the issue. You can try this: http://pastie.org/1067378
[18:27] <rob_p> jon__: Yeah...
[18:27] <sha1sum> bastidrazor: confusing. thanks. good to know.
[18:27] <abhijit> philinux, i only paste that link as it is!!! :)
[18:27] <jon__> rob_p: but on http://www.kloth.net/services/nslookup.php, i get a non-auth answer which is the ip addr of my server
[18:27] <philinux> abhijit: I've used it myself before no problem
[18:27] <ZykoticK9> sha1sum, "sudo adduser <username> admin"
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> jon__: add <IP_ADDRESS> as a DNS server on the system
[18:27] <abhijit> philinux, I see
[18:27] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> can anyone help me please?
[18:27] <kop__> ActionParsnip, been done did that been there burned the t-shirt (and almost wearing out the super grub boot disk). I just think a cleaner fix would be to tell apt and the update mangler to bugger off where grub and google are concerned
[18:28] <jon__> ActionParsnip: why?
[18:28] <rob_p> jon__: What is your domain name if I might ask?  I could try if from a variety of nameservers.
[18:28] <MajorShepard> Hi everyone, I've a little question, is it dangerous to put ip_forward at "1" always ? Even if I don't really need it ? (sry for my english)
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> jon__: its an easy to remember DNS server you can add if DNS is an issue
[18:28] <guampa> !ask | asdfasdfasdfasdf
[18:28] <philinux> abhijit: post a thread in general help. Problems with pgadmin3 and codelite after removing kubuntu-desktop. In the thread post the errors
[18:29] <rob_p> jon__: It's a public nameserver run by Google, I think.
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> kop__: log a bug then is all I can suggest
[18:29] <Guest81707> Hi - Could you please help me to format my pen drive
[18:29] <J11> how do i get vncserver to use a display used by another user?
[18:29] <abhijit> philinux, you mena on ubuntu forums?
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> rob_p: it is :)
[18:29] <philinux> abhijit: yep
[18:29] <jon__> rob_p: any way i can PM the real domain to you?
[18:29] <abhijit> philinux, okk
[18:29] <rob_p> jon__: sure.
[18:29] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> guampa, i did up there here it is again:  "hello i have a 5.2 home theatre connected through spdif to pc, when i listen to mp3 files quality it's a bit bad but when i play movies the sounds it's better, if i connect pc to home theatre through analog ports will i get better sound quality?"
[18:29] <tensorpudding> J11: the user on the machine running the vncserver doesn't matter, you just need to know the display they're using
[18:29] <philinux> abhijit: Explain what you did
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> J11: once you VNC over, vnc to the other system. It'll run like a dog but is possible
[18:29] <SubCool> someone?
[18:29] <abhijit> philinux, okkk
[18:30] <abhijit> !someone | SubCool
[18:30] <guampa> asdfasdfasdfasdf: just entered the room :), maybe the mp3 has low quality?
[18:31] <SubCool> abhijit, im sorry did u miss my 5 attempts?
[18:31] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> guampa, ah, dunno mp3's are 320 kbps
[18:31] <SubCool> but since ur free- do you know how to solve my issue?
[18:31] <abhijit> SubCool, yes
[18:31] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> guampa, also they sound better on headphones,
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> SubCool: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   can be acieved with:   sudo chown root:root file; sudo chmod 755 file
[18:31] <kerebrus> ZykoticK9 well that fixed the problem with being able to mount and unmount on ext3 but it pissed of my ntfs drives but still not able to write to the ext3
[18:31] <abhijit> SubCool, i am niether free and I dunno solution because i dunno your problem.
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> SubCool: read: man chown    and man chmod
[18:31] <tensorpudding> 320 kbps MP3 VBR is indistinguishable from CD quality
[18:31] <rubydiamond> How can I change root password of Ubuntu if I forgot it..
[18:32] <rubydiamond> I am not able to login to system
[18:32] <ZykoticK9> kerebrus, change the permission of the mount point.
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | rubydiamond
[18:32] <guampa> asdfasdfasdfasdf: do they sound lo-fi, low volume..?
[18:32] <rubydiamond> !root
[18:32] <SubCool> ActionParsnip, well my problem is i want to verify its permission, but when i do a ls -l it says permission denied..
[18:32] <rubydiamond> is it true that on ubuntu
[18:32] <rubydiamond> I can't do
[18:32] <rubydiamond> su -
[18:32] <Guest81707> Hello.. can anyone help me to format my pendrive
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> rubydiamond: use: sudo -i    instead
[18:33] <rubydiamond> to go login as root
[18:33] <kerebrus> ZykoticK9 sorry how?
[18:33] <Pici> !enter
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Guest81707: use: gksudo gparted
[18:33] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> guampa, nope it's kinda hard to explain, volume is fine but when you tune it up it needs more bass apparently they just sound like when you use ear phones of cheap chinese headphones
[18:33] <rubydiamond> ActionParsnip: hey.. I can't su - on my desktop.. for entered password it says permission denied..
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> SubCool: try: sudo -l file
[18:34] <ZykoticK9> kerebrus, to give EVERYONE read/wright access "sudo chmod ugo+rwx /media/sdc1"
[18:34] <rubydiamond> ActionParsnip: ?
[18:34] <Guest81707> I can see the pendrive in gparted but format option is not coming up
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> rubydiamond: use: sudo -i    you will get the same effect.
[18:34] <Pici> rubydiamond: you cannot use 'su' because the root password is locked.  On ubuntu, use sudo -i
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Guest81707: unmount the partition then
[18:34] <Pici> rubydiamond: Please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information
[18:34] <Guest81707> I tried as well
[18:34] <kerebrus> ZykoticK9 would sudo chmod 777 /media/sdc1 do the same?
[18:35] <Guest81707> by typing this command umount /dev/sdb
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> Guest81707: ok then run: sudo fdisk -l ; mount     if the partition is mounted run: sudo umount /dev/partitionnamehere
[18:35] <ZykoticK9> kerebrus, you might also have permission issues on the file system already.
[18:35] <ZykoticK9> kerebrus, 777=rwx yes
[18:35] <guampa> asdfasdfasdfasdf: if it happens with every mp3 maybe it's the 5.1 channels
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> Guest81707: you cant mount /dev/sdb   you CAN mount /dev/sdb1
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Guest81707: sdb is the disk, sdb1 is the first partition. You dont format drives. you format partitions
[18:36] <ZykoticK9> kerebrus, i did not suggest you apply that recursively however!  it will mess up all your actual files (it should ONLY be applied to directories/folders)
[18:36] <rubydiamond> Pici: but on my Ubuntu slice/server I am able to do su -
[18:36] <Guest81707> do i need to create the partition
[18:36] <rubydiamond> but behavior is different on my desktop
[18:36] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> guampa, yes all mp3's but when i play music i make home theatre go in 2 channels mode.
[18:36] <Pici> rubydiamond: That is not the default or supported configuration.
[18:36] <SubCool> ActionParsnip, ty- ill give it a try
[18:37] <rubydiamond> Pici: I haven't changed any config
[18:37] <Pici> rubydiamond: If you're using a VPS then your provider might have setup the default image differently.
[18:37] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> guampa, and either i do that or not still bad sound quality :(
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest81707: so: sudo umount /dev/sdb1    should unmount it. If there is not already a partition you will need to create one. Most usb stick things have one to accommodate ignorant windows users
[18:37] <J11> I just get a gray screen with an X-shaped mousepointer when connecting to the vncserver. When doing sudo xwd i use -display :0.0 to get a screenshot, I just run vncserver :0 as sudoing it gives an error.
[18:37] <rubydiamond> Pici: hmm
[18:37] <rubydiamond> yeah
[18:37] <rubydiamond> might be
[18:37] <au> In apt-get, what is cyrus-sasl-plain called?
[18:37] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> guampa, i've heard spdif compresses sound that's why i wanted to know if connecting it using analog ports i could  get better quality.
[18:37] <rubydiamond> Pici: what if I forgot my password and not able to login to system
[18:38] <mustelo> we have our ubuntu workstations set up to login via kerberos, I can login at the console fine, but graphical login freezes indefinitely. none of the work arounds on the forums seem to be working. does anyone have ideas?
[18:38] <rubydiamond> is there any way so that I can turn on root and change it's password
[18:38] <Guest81707> there is no sdb1
[18:38] <ZykoticK9> J11, i doubt sudoing vnc is a good idea
[18:38] <Pici> rubydiamond: Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[18:38] <au> rubydiamond: sudo passwd root
[18:38] <Guest81707> there is Disk /dev/sdb
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> au: don't tell users that please, having a root password is not advised or supported
[18:38] <rubydiamond> au: but what if I forgot my password.. currently looking at link given by Pici
[18:39] <kop__> I'll try this again in english .How can I tell this brain dead update manager to leave Grub alone and ignore google chrome ?
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Guest81707: you can write a new partition table to the device and then format it as you wish
[18:39] <ZykoticK9> rubydiamond, au Ubuntu doesn't need root, when i see people doing this i know they are doing something wrong ;)
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Guest81707: make sure you are using sdb or it may damage your data
[18:40] <tensorpudding> Having a root user is nice, but I understand why Ubuntu uses sudo instead.
[18:40] <wcomnisky> hi! can i read the serial number of my HD using dbus-send?
[18:40] <rubydiamond> Rudemeister: hmm right..
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> rubydiamond: if you'd ust left root alone like how ubuntu is supposed to be used, you'd have no issues
[18:40] <kerebrus> Is there a way to set up a folder under ubuntu that when im on my windows drive I can access files in that folder?
[18:40] <rubydiamond> ZykoticK9: right
[18:40] <rubydiamond> ZykoticK9: I actually forgot my password
[18:40] <au> what difference does it make
[18:40] <rubydiamond> not want to login to system..
[18:40] <au> rubydiamond: can you log into the system at all?
[18:40] <wolfbiker> hey guys, I'm having trouble signing in to amsn because of an error that keeps occurring every time I try to sign in. An error box appears although with nothing in it. I've even restarted my computer but no good. Any ideas about why this is happening and how I can solve this?
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> wcomnisky: sudo lshw -C disk    may show it
[18:41] <Guest81707> i don't want the data
[18:41] <ZykoticK9> rubydiamond, easy, recovery mode ;)  see the LostPassword like Pici sent ;)  good luck.
[18:41] <kop__> ActionParsnip, thanx but no thanx , fixing the problem every time it happens is no solution I just want to somehow keep grup legacy w/o being prompted at every update and eradicate completely this abortafact google chrome
[18:41] <rubydiamond> au: it says permission denied
[18:41] <rubydiamond> ZykoticK9: right will take help of that
[18:41] <kop__> I'll try this again in english .How can I tell this brain dead update manager to leave Grub alone and ignore google chrome ?
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> au: it protects users from logging in as root and stupidly launching browsers as root, irc clients ran as root are also massively foolish
[18:41] <wcomnisky> ActionParsnip: i dont have super-user access...
[18:41] <ari-tczew> I've lost sound on my ubuntu maverick after upgrade jack-audio-connection-kit :/ what happened?
[18:41] <rubydiamond> thank you all guys for awesome help..
[18:41] <SubCool> ActionParsnip, the results of -l were command not found.
[18:41] <guest> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414284 how can i make MPlayer Movie Player play mp4 ? DOESN'T HELP ME
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> wcomnisky: try without sudo, may still give what you need
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> wcomnisky: no, it doesnt :(
[18:42] <wcomnisky> ActionParsnip: right
[18:42] <kerebrus> guest what did you install mplayer plays mp4's for me by defualt
[18:42] <wcomnisky> ActionParsnip: i need this info to my app..
[18:42] <Starky> I have the seemingly infamous Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02), and I'm trying to get connected to my unsecured home network in Ubuntu 9.10. I have gotten the Broadcom B43 wireless driver, but when I click the network button in the system status bar I get "device not ready" under Wireless Networks. Anyone know whether I have to get a different driver, or run a certain command, or what?
[18:43] <guest> kerebrus - I also have gnome--mplayer
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> SubCool: try: sudo -i; ls -l file
[18:43] <zongo_> hi guys, is there another good alternative to skype on the linux platform ?
[18:43] <kerebrus> guest what command did you use to install it?
[18:43] <abhijit> hi all and philinux just reported problem to furm http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9657733#post9657733 now all head to forum and help me. ;) :D
[18:43] <guest> sudo aptitude install mplayer
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> zongo_: skype is proprietary, there are only alternatives to skype. the protocol it uses will be different though
[18:43] <wcomnisky> ActionParsnip: i saw in gnome disk utility it use dbus to get info about PC
[18:44] <kerebrus> guest what version of ubuntu you using?
[18:44] <cwhaleyjr> where is the config file for the Xserver stored?
[18:44] <guest> kerebrus this is a ususal mp4 video from youtube (TimbalandVevo)
[18:44] <guest> it's 9.10 ubuntu now - from ShipIt disk
[18:45] <Viliny> Hey guys! I got 2 usb hard drives that i wish to use on my fileserver. I usually manually mount them to folders each reboot but is there a gui tool of sorts that would make this a tad easier? i mean a tool that lets you mount stuff around with an interface
[18:45] <CQ> kryptyk: argk, check out the notice on http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html ...
[18:45] <abhijit> dhruvasagar, ping
[18:45] <zongo_> ActionParsnip, I did use ekiga for a while but did not find it very stable
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> zongo_: Here are 4 alternatives: http://ostatic.com/blog/say-hello-to-5-voip-solutions-for-linux   Non skype clients will not talk to skype clients
[18:45] <unclemike> hows 10.04 going to run on 1ghz amd athon 512 ram...and vid card with 256 mb ram
[18:45] <guest> kerebrus - everything is like in howto's
[18:45] <guest>   61  sudo aptitude install mplayer
[18:45] <guest>    62  sudo aptitude install mplayer-gui
[18:45] <guest>    63  sudo aptitude install gui-mplayer
[18:45] <guest>    64  sudo aptitude install gnome-mplaye
[18:45] <guest>    65  sudo aptitude install gnome-mplayer
[18:45] <guest>    66  sudo aptitude install vlc mozilla-plugin-vlc
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> unclemike: what chip is on the video card?
[18:45] <FloodBot1> guest: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:45] <coz_> guest  it should do fine
[18:45] <cwhaleyjr> where is the config file for the Xserver stored?
[18:46] <kerebrus> guest go to a cmd and try playing the file via mplayer "filehere" and pastebin the output
[18:46] <guest> ok guys
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> cwhaleyjr: afaik, its detected by udev and stored in ram
[18:46] <viliny__> hi, sorry my desktop hard crashed... did anyone respond to me?
[18:46] <abhijit> dhruvasagar, ping
[18:46] <coz_> guest  which video card   lspci | grep -i vga
[18:46] <rox_> l
[18:46] <karlo> why when I hold windows key and E (for workspace look) it is very dark ?
[18:46] <rox_> l
[18:46] <rox_> ll
[18:46] <FloodBot1> rox_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:47] <rox_> mj
[18:47] <abhijit> !enter > rox_
[18:47] <abhijain> dhruvasagar:hello
[18:47] <unclemike> ActionParsnip: nvidia 6200......right now im in mandriva 2010.1 runing kde
[18:47] <coz_> karlo,  do you have compiz running?
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> unclemike: it'll run fine tough. Thats better than most of my systems. nvidia will be perfect, nvidia loves linux
[18:47] <guest> coz_ videocard is now dead :)
[18:47] <abhijit> philinux, what if i just reinstall all that stuff again?
[18:47] <coz_> guest  ok
[18:48] <karlo> coz_: I do not know... :/
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> unclemike: You may want to consider XUbuntu as a lighter DE will make it more responsive. You can install KUbuntu if you like KDE and can work better with it
[18:48] <Starky> Does anyone have any idea what's wrong?
[18:48] <guest> coz_ t's because of my video card or short of knowledge?
[18:48] <philinux> abhijit: That might work, could be some missing dependecy but i doubt it.
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[18:48] <coz_> karlo,   ok   go to system/preferences/appearance  visual effects tab and tell if anything is marked
[18:48] <abhijit> philinux, ok.
[18:48] <kerebrus> guest what do you mean by video card is now dead?? lol
[18:48] <unclemike> i like gnome better
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> Starky: grab a wired connection and get updated
[18:49] <karlo> coz_, ok
[18:49] <coz_> guest   well if you open a terminal and copy paste this command    lspci | grep -i vga  then paste the output here I can tell you about your card
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> unclemike: thats fine, use ubuntu. You will get a faster system with a lighter DE due to your low ram
[18:49] <philinux> abhijit: Depending on what you did it had to unravel. you might have to do a full reinstall at some point
[18:49] <subone> I installed compizconfig setting manager, but everytime i reset my computer the settings are lost
[18:49] <unclemike> just got the cd burnt...ill give it a spin
[18:49] <wbc> Hi all. Ubuntu says that one of my HDD's has many bad sectors, how do I fix it?
[18:49] <kerebrus> coz_ not here in pastebin
[18:49] <Starky> ActionParsnip: Update what? I'm on a wired connection right now
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> wbc: make sure your backups are recent, chuck it and get a new one
[18:50] <guest> coz_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/471176/
[18:50] <abhijit> philinux, no. i wll not reinstall. i have my ubuntu set now. reinstalling is total time consuming.
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Starky: the whole system
[18:50] <karlo> coz_: it is normal
[18:50] <philinux> abhijit: ok
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> wbc: bad sectors mean the drive is dying and they cannot be fixed
[18:50] <Starky> ActionParsnip: How?
[18:50] <abhijit> philinux, should i just take risk of reinstalling kubuntu?
[18:50] <philinux> abhijit: I have home on it's own partition so it very quick
[18:50] <abhijit> philinux, i see
[18:50] <guest> coz_ I just wanna understand the technologies
[18:50] <coz_> karlo, ok then it is liekly compiz is running and windows key  + e  is default for the expo plugin however   install    sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:50] <Starky> ActionParsnip: I'm on 9.10, is that not the latest version? I just upgraded to it like 2 minutes ago.
[18:50] <philinux> abhijit: nothing to loose
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Starky: run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:50] <coz_> guest  ok
[18:50] <abhijit> philinux, okk
[18:51] <wbc> ActionParsnip: I just ran Hirens BootCD, and it had some kind of "fix bad sectors" thingy
[18:51] <spreadsheet> If I put a computer on suspend, it will still connect to the network right?
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> Starky: thats fine, 9.10 is supported waaay into next year
[18:51] <coz_> guest  ok you have an intel onboard video chipset
[18:51] <coz_> guest  which should be ok
[18:51] <subone> Can anyone tell me why i cant seem to turn off animations in compizconfig manager?
[18:51] <SubCool> ActionParsnip, i cant find my last msg to you- the command sudo -l file resovled with command not found
[18:51] <spreadsheet> If I put a laptop connected via Ethernet to my router, and then closed the lid, will I still be able to ssh into it from another comp?
[18:51] <philinux> abhijit: you could look back through your bash_history to see exactly what you did
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> wbc: it probably just flags them as bad so they do not get used but they will literally spread like cancer
[18:51] <subone> i uncheck it and it just checks itself again
[18:51] <abhijit> philinux, how to view that?
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> SubCool: sudo -i    for (i)nteractive
[18:51] <RyanP> spreadsheet, As long as it's turned on, and sshd is running.
[18:52] <wbc> ActionParsnip: So my only choice it to get a new one?
[18:52] <SubCool> oh
[18:52] <spreadsheet> RyanP: thanks
[18:52] <philinux> abhijit: gedit ~/.bash_history
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> wbc: if you want assured data consistancy, yes. the drive is going to die. If its less than 1 year old then return it under warranty
[18:53] <abhijit> philinux, should i pastebin it to show you?
[18:53] <wbc> ActionParsnip: It is atleast 3-4 years old
[18:53] <guest> coz_ mplayer works fine from the terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/471178/
[18:53] <Starky> ActionParsnip: I ran those commands, they didn't affect my wireless-connecting abilities in the slightest.
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> wbc: how much hammer does it take? Is it just a desktop PC drive or someting like an SQL storage?
[18:53] <philinux> abhijit: you only need to check the commands you issued before it all went borked
[18:54] <coz_> guest  ok cool
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> Starky: but did you get a lot of updates?
[18:54] <abhijit> philinux, ok
[18:54] <guest> coz_ but from nautilus it wants to configure the key "-vo" (what -vo to choose?)
[18:54] <Starky> ActionParsnip: "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[18:54] <wbc> ActionParsnip: Just a normal desktop PC, use it mostly to download and watch HD movies.
[18:54] <coz_> guest    xv
[18:55] <Starky> ActionParsnip: I got the above for both commands
[18:55] <coz_> ok sorry ...but I have to break here...be back in a bit
[18:56] <Starky> :(
[18:56] <Starky> Is there any way whatsoever that I can get my wireless network connected?
[18:56] <TandonR> #debian
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Starky: can you give the output of:  sudo lshw -C network; sudo iwlist scan | head -n 20   thanks (use http://pastie.org)
[18:57] <guest> coz_ don't worry (coz xv doesn't help to me) -- it's linux -- I have to solve the problem by myself :)
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> wbc: ok thats cool, should be kinda on the way out then imho
[18:58] <RyanP> Does anyone know anything about initramfs? I'm trying to run an interactive script from with initramfs, using the init script. The script starts, but doesn't accept any input. Is there anywhere better I could ask?
[18:58] <Starky> ActionParsnip: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[18:59] <wbc> ActionParsnip: Alright, I'll order a new one (or two) this evening. Thanks a lot for the help! :-)
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> wbc: np duder
[18:59] <ZykoticK9> guest, i think it's playing with "-vo x11" you might also what to try "-vo gl" or "-vo gl2" if you have OpenGL working on your system.  good luck.
[18:59] <Tsims> Does anyone know how to decrease the CPU% usage of xorg in ubuntu 10.04?
[18:59] <graffy> I changed permission from 644 to 755 on a file, and now I don't have permission to rename it
[19:00] <tensorpudding> graffy: that's not possible
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> Starky: don't copy "thanks (use http://pastie.org)"  thats my pleasantry, thats why I left the big space
[19:00] <tensorpudding> is the permissions on it really 755?
[19:00] <abhijit> philinux, i checked. and i done exactly whta give on that web site.
[19:00] <graffy> i just changed it 777 and I still can't rename it
[19:00] <maco> graffy: that doesnt make sense
[19:00] <philinux> abhijit: Yes, but what did you do before that
[19:00] <maco> graffy: if you can chmod it, you should be able to rename it
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> graffy: use: sudo mv    to rename it then 777 is a really bad idea
[19:01] <graffy> I know I can sudo mv it
[19:01] <froschi> graffy: i think you need write permission *on the directory* the file is in to rename it
[19:01] <graffy> but i have been experiencing this problem a lot recently
[19:01] <maco> froschi: that sounds right
[19:01] <graffy> im looking at ls -la and its 777 i cant rename
[19:01] <abhijit> philinux, hey but we are missing one thing.
[19:01] <SubCool> ActionParsnip, Permission denied
[19:02] <maco> graffy: what about the directory above?
[19:02] <tensorpudding> graffy: can you edit it?
[19:02] <abhijit> philinux, both programs were running before doing that. so no need to check what i did before that. whatsay?
[19:02] <graffy> cd ..
[19:02] <maco> graffy: ls -ld ..
[19:02] <philinux> abhijit: Are you sure
[19:02] <abhijit> philinux, yes. sure about pgadmin3
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> SubCool: yikes, then i'd run: sudo chown $USER:$USER file     and check the file permissions, then chown back to root:root
[19:03] <mullerk> hi there, i have a question... how could help me?
[19:03] <Pici> !ask | mullerk
[19:03] <graffy> ah
[19:03] <graffy> i mounted the drive as root
[19:03] <graffy> .....
[19:03] <abhijit> philinux, and also i checked. but nothing special related to any major component of os.
[19:03] <SubCool> how the hell, ActionParsnip - thanks. how did this happen? its a fresh install
[19:03] <Starky> ActionParsnip: Why would I use a pastebin for one line?
[19:04] <mullerk> great! so, i have a hp server, proliant dl120. I'm trying to install ubuntu 8.04, but the sata hard drive is not detected
[19:04] <philinux> abhijit: You could modify that command to install instead of remove and remove the last bit of it
[19:04] <okiu> tets
[19:04] <abhijit> philinux, ok.
[19:05] <abhijit> philinux, i wll try that and report to you. thanks :)
[19:05] <philinux> abhijit: I is off soon someone will help I'm sure
[19:05] <abhijit> philinux, yah
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> SubCool: fresh install is moot, its a file you made
[19:06] <mullerk> does anyone know how I can install an sata hard drive during the ubuntu 8.04 installation?
[19:06] <kaasinees> what does ubuntu as init?
[19:07] <graffy> I still can't rename the file
[19:07] <bitplane> hi, I'm having problems with the resolution of my external monitor. Anyone familar with xrandr etc who can help?
[19:07] <graffy> I can create a file in this directory and rename it
[19:07] <graffy> but i cant rename another file in the directory that's 777
[19:07] <picard1421> i need he lp installing a KDM plugin.. i followed this guide (except instead of usr/kde4/... its etc/kde4... ) besides that point.. i followed it exactly to install the KDM plugin.. but whenever i get to the KDM login screen it only prompts me for the password.. no menu system or anything.. can choose hte plugin?? do i need a different theme? im using the defaults with kubuntu desktop??
[19:07] <picard1421> http://lifeasiknow-it.blogspot.com/2009/08/pam-face-authentication-musings-how-to.html
[19:07] <wildeja> Hi, Could someone please direct me to a resource on shared internet connections please
[19:08] <picard1421> i cant choose hte plugin (typo)
[19:08] <RyanP> mullerk, I've never had any problems with that. It's visible in the BIOS and everything?
[19:08] <bastidrazor> !ics | wildeja
[19:08] <wildeja> Sorry, i'm useing Ubuntu LL
[19:08] <Starky> ActionParsnip: I apparently accidentally put in a parenthesis when I copypasted your command, here is the new output: http://pastie.org/1067439
[19:08] <wildeja> Thanks
[19:08] <tensorpudding> !upstart | kaasinees
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Starky: it's not, its a LOT of lines and will look like this: http://pastie.org/1067440
[19:09] <wildeja> bastidrazor, Would you mind telling a noob how you do that, i.e. call the help and direct it at a user name
[19:09] <Starky> ActionParsnip: <Starky> I apparently accidentally put in a parenthesis when I copypasted your command, here is the new output: http://pastie.org/1067439
[19:09] <Starky> :P
[19:09] <mullerk> #ubuntu-server
[19:09] <mullerk> sorry
[19:09] <kaasinees> tensorpudding, ubottu: what is the difference between sysvinit?
[19:09] <ssureshot> I use a laptop with an external monitor attached using twinview... Do I need to have 2 monitor sections in the xorg.conf? My issue is when I run a game it spans both monitors instead of staying only on one...
[19:10] <rg58sma> hello
[19:10] <SubCool> ActionParsnip, ah-
[19:10] <rg58sma> i have an error with ubuntu 9.10
[19:10] <tensorpudding> kaasinees: I'm pretty sure upstart can use sys v initscripts
[19:10] <rg58sma> when boot i have this error
[19:10] <tensorpudding> The upshot of upstart is that it is event-driven
[19:11] <rg58sma> target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init
[19:11] <rg58sma> no init found. try passing init = bootarg
[19:11] <rg58sma> anyone can help me?
[19:11] <nikle> so i have 2 computers, both work out the box with ubuntu. if i imaged the drive of one and stuck it on the other would it work? or does ubuntu remove unused drivers on install?
[19:11] <wildeja> !ics | wildeja
[19:12] <musketshot> anyone know what would effectively happen if I were to drop PulseAudio from synaptic?
[19:12] <wildeja> cool
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> Starky: tru: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter bcmwl-kernel-source      then run the hardware driver app and install the driver
[19:12] <Starky> :(
[19:12] <Starky> :(
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> rg58sma: boot to live cd and reinstall grub would be my first call
[19:13] <Starky> I guess I'll just have to use my iPod Touch to go online for the next few days
[19:13] <guampa> nikle: ubuntu doesn't remove drivers, it'll have the same driver set
[19:13] <Starky> until my new computer arrives
[19:13] <gops> hi
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> or just use the wired connection
[19:13] <ssureshot>  I use a laptop with an external monitor attached using twinview... Do I need to have 2 monitor sections in the xorg.conf? My issue is when I run a game it spans both monitors instead of staying only on one...
[19:13] <gops> unable to download youtube videos using youtube-dl
[19:13] <Starky> ActionParsnip: Can't, the wired connection is borrowed
[19:14] <nikle> sweet, ty guampa
[19:14] <ssureshot> eek sorry ignore that post
[19:14] <guampa> np
[19:14] <ssureshot> didn't mean to double up
[19:14] <Zolomon> I just installed ubuntu server on a box. I only have terminal access. How do I install a GUI like gnome or some other window handler that I can use?
[19:14] <Zolomon> Or do I just want terminal?
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> gops: log a bug then
[19:14] <gops> can any one help me, I have a problem that i am unable to download youtube videos using youtube-dl
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Zolomon: if you wanted a gui, why did you install the server edition?
[19:14] <Zolomon> I don't mind using the terminal. I'm pretty used to it at the moment..
[19:15] <Zolomon> ActionParsnip: Because I want a server? :)
[19:15] <SubCool> ActionParsnip, after chown user user, it was still permission denied
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Zolomon: the desktop can be used as a server
[19:15] <guampa> Zolomon: if you want a gui you can install gnome or kde or whatever from terminal
[19:15] <Zolomon> guampa: Ah, thanks!
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Zolomon: there is nothing whatsoever stopping you from installing serverlike apps on the desktop
[19:15] <rg58sma> ActionParsnip
[19:16] <rg58sma> i have Lost+found folder only
[19:16] <aloon> Alsa sound is gone for me , is there an easy way to uninstall alsa and reinstall via repositories ?
[19:16] <rg58sma> but have used 50 gb
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Zolomon: the whole popint of the server install is to BE headless and therefore impact less on the system as you wont be running a full desktop which takes up ram
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Zolomon: i strongly suggest you reinstall using the desktop cd
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> or you can install ubuntu-desktop  but it will also pull in the generic kernel, so will have the same effect as installing the desktop CD
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Zolomon: you will just have an extra server kernel flapping around the place
[19:18] <rg58sma> ActionParsnip this is for me_
[19:18] <milko> hi!
[19:18] <slinker1> flapping about? don't get so technical there ap :)
[19:18] <milko> I bought a new laptop, a lenovo g460
[19:18] <milko> and I have only 2 problems with ubuntu
[19:18] <lojack> Anyone know if I can add MODE=" " to a udev rule to make a block device read-only?
[19:19] <Pici> ActionParsnip: Just like installing server applications on the desktop version there is no problem installing desktop environments on the server version.  A reinstall is really overkill.
[19:19] <milko> 1) when I connect external speakers, the laptop's speakrs keep working
[19:19] <milko> 2) ubuntu doesn't detect my bluetooth antena
[19:19] <milko> can somebody help me?
[19:20] <blendmaster1024_> anyone shoot me a good portscanner? I'm helping a friend set up an ftp server, and I can't connect to his data line, need to check the port
[19:20] <guampa> nmap
[19:20] <SubCool> oh- no wonder
[19:21] <_L30_> blendmaster1024_: nothing as good as nmap :)
[19:21] <bastidrazor> blendmaster1024_: netsat from within the box or nmap
[19:21] <guampa> blendermaster: it also has some gui frontends
[19:22] <blendmaster1024_> nmap does the job, I need to see if I'm blocking any ports on the way out
[19:22] <rg58sma> anyone??
[19:22] <aeon-ltd> rg58sma: what?
[19:23] <TheAlchem1st> Hi, question! When I log on my ubuntu server 10.04 (ssh or ftp) I fell on /root, how can I change it to /home/jord instead...
[19:24] <slidinghorn> rg58sma, actionparnip already gave you a suggestion...what happened when you tried it?
[19:24] <TheAlchem1st> because when I log on on ftp I can't access my sutff i m stuck
[19:25] <slinker1> ssh as jord instead of root
[19:25] <TheAlchem1st> wow now it seems to work... ok
[19:25] <TheAlchem1st> yeah thats what i m doing
[19:25] <TheAlchem1st> ok ty.
[19:25] <slinker1> :)
[19:26] <sda> Hi all, I'm an informatic student, I would like help the ubuntu\linux project, how can i help?
[19:27] <slidinghorn> TheAlchem1st, login as jord instead of root
[19:27] <Pici> !contribute | sda
[19:27] <mullerk> hi guys - anyone has idea how can i install a sata hard drive on hp server? the hard drive is not being detected at the install
[19:28] <tensorpudding> mullerk: do you know if maybe there is an unusual chipset involved?
[19:30] <SubCool> hey- i dont get what i did. I just created a file, vncserver while folling some instructions. After having an issue reading its permissions. i decided to become root, and delete it. after i deleted it, i made the file again, as a user, and put it back into /etc/init.d/ - now when i try to identify the permissions, it still says permission denied
[19:31] <mikelifeguard> Can /etc/localtime be rebuilt somehow?
[19:32] <Nooj> Howdy
[19:32] <erkan^> !make
[19:33] <Nooj> What is everyone up to?
[19:33] <Zolomon> How do I get the IP of my computer?
[19:33] <erkan^> I don't understand about make [commando for terminal] :|
[19:33] <Zolomon> And how can I allow it to be visible on the network?
[19:33] <Zolomon> local network
[19:33] <Nooj> Zolomon: type ifconfig into bash
[19:33] <Zolomon> thanks!
[19:33] <Pici> erkan^: Can you rephrase your question?
[19:34] <Nooj> You can add "| grep inet" to just show those IDs
[19:34] <PeterDrop> 4 days and 10 hours trying to get sound :( any help here, i have a intel chipset sound card
[19:34] <Pici> erkan^: What are you trying to compile?
[19:34] <cablop> i was looking for this in my menu, but it's not there "System->Administration->Networking:General"
[19:34] <shadyabhi> Pls help me finding solution to this problem.. http://superuser.com/questions/160441/share-a-socks-proxy-on-lan I am a noob in this so pls cooperate
[19:34] <erkan^> I have downloaded drivel journal editor (last version) by the Internet. I want try install. This say that i must "make" do
[19:35] <nirvaana69> hi
[19:35] <erkan^> but i don't know how do i with make [commando]
[19:35] <Pici> erkan^: drivel is in the package repositories.
[19:35] <erkan^> do you understand that, picard1421 ?
[19:35] <erkan^> yes
[19:35] <abhijit> !compile | erkan^
[19:35] <erkan^> but that is old version
[19:35] <picard1421> no quite..
[19:35] <Nooj> Hi, nirvaana69
[19:35] <Pici> erkan^: sudo apt-get install drivel, no need to compile.
[19:35] <nirvaana69> i am new to this chatting nooj...
[19:35] <Nooj> Me, too.  Well, through shell, I mean
[19:35] <abhijit> !hi | nirvaana69
[19:36] <abhijit> erkan^, you found that solution to our drivel problem?
[19:36] <cablop> how can install this menu? "System->Administration->Networkingl"
[19:36] <saravanan> hi all
[19:36] <rg58sma> anyone??
[19:36] <Zol> Heya
[19:36] <Pici> erkan^: So, look at the INSTALL file that comes with the software you downloaded.
[19:36] <Nooj> Seeya, guys.  Back to el trabajo
[19:36] <erkan^> yes
[19:36] <saravanan> i need help in gdesklets in lucid ? is any one help me
[19:36] <abhijit> erkan^, what is the solution?
[19:36] <Pici> rg58sma: Please stop saying 'anyone.'  If you need to repeat your question, please do so.
[19:36] <Zol> Can't find a program called ipconfig for ubuntu?
[19:37] <picard1421> i tried installing a theme.. i downloaded the folder and put it in my  /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes
[19:37] <tensorpudding> Zol: ifconfig
[19:37] <picard1421> but whwenever i boot it gives me an erro and takes me to CLI???
[19:37] <erkan^>   2. Type `make' to compile the package., pi
[19:37] <tensorpudding> not ipconfig
[19:37] <Zol> ah, thanks!
[19:37] <rg58sma> Pici : Ok
[19:37] <erkan^> sorry Pici
[19:37] <rg58sma> target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init
[19:37] <Pici> erkan^: type make
[19:37] <SubCool> ok- i dont get it..
[19:37] <rg58sma> no init found. try passing init = bootarg
[19:37] <rg58sma> target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init
[19:37] <rg58sma> target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init
[19:37] <rg58sma> no init found. try passing init = bootarg
[19:37] <FloodBot1> rg58sma: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:37] <rg58sma> have this errores
[19:37] <erkan^> yes
[19:37] <abhijit> !pm | nirvaana69
[19:37] <Zol> Can I be logged in on my server and connect to it via ssh with the same user?
[19:37] <picard1421> i tried installing a theme.. i downloaded the folder and put it in my /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes
[19:37] <picard1421> but whwenever i boot it gives me an error and takes me to CLI???
[19:37] <SubCool> i just Created a file, for a vnc server. I put the file that i made as a user in gedit on my desktop i just tried to sudo -i it, and i got permission denied
[19:38] <Pici> erkan^: Okay? Whats the problem then?
[19:38] <Pici> SubCool: What do you mean by 'sudo -i' it?
[19:38] <SubCool> sudo -i file
[19:38] <erkan^> :~/Downloads/drivel-3.0.2$ make
[19:38] <erkan^> make: *** Geen doelen opgegeven en geen makefile gevonden.  Gestopt.
[19:38] <SubCool> tried to find out its permissions
[19:38] <erkan^> this is dutch language
[19:38] <nirvaana69> ok sorry
[19:38] <Pici> SubCool: Is it supposed to be an executable file?
[19:38] <picard1421> i tried installing a theme.. i downloaded the folder and put it in my /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes but whwenever i boot it gives me an erro and takes me to CLI???
[19:39] <Pici> erkan^: What was step 1?
[19:39] <erkan^>   1. `cd' to the directory containing the package's source code and type
[19:39] <erkan^>      `./configure' to configure the package for your system.
[19:39] <Pici> SubCool: i.e, are you trying to run it or edit it?
[19:39] <Pici> erkan^: did you run ./configure ?
[19:39] <nirvaana69> how do i download movtes usig k get?
[19:39] <erkan^> yes
[19:39] <cablop> how can i access this in 10.04? "System->Administration->Networkingl"
[19:39] <Pici> erkan^: did you get any errors?
[19:39] <erkan^> a wait
[19:39] <cablop> i think ubuntu is getting dumb if they tell you to use an option that it's not there ¬¬
[19:40] <Zol> haha! it worked :)
[19:40] <Zol> I am logged in!
[19:40] <erkan^> No package 'glib-2.0' found
[19:40] <erkan^> No package 'gmodule-2.0' found
[19:40] <erkan^> No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[19:40] <erkan^> No package 'gconf-2.0' found
[19:40] <erkan^> No package 'gnome-vfs-2.0' found
[19:40] <FloodBot1> erkan^: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:40] <erkan^> No package 'gtksourceview-2.0' found
[19:40] <nirvaana69> ubottu help me
[19:40] <Pici> nirvaana69: ubottu is a bot, just ask your question here (all on one line) and someone will try to help you.
[19:40] <Bisu[Shield]> I am getting a curl error: Error in cURL request: Operation timed out with 475810 out of -1 bytes received, what is the issue here?
[19:40] <erkan^> My excuses
[19:41] <picard1421> anyone??
[19:41] <Pici> erkan^: run this: sudo apt-get build-dep drivel
[19:41] <SubCool> Pici, um .. right now i am trying to find out that if it has the correct permissions before i make itexecutable
[19:41] <Pici> SubCool: You need to change it's permissions to make it executable first though....
[19:41] <Pici> SubCool: chmod +x /path/to/file
[19:41] <nirvaana69> does everybody here talk just about operating systems
[19:41] <Pici> nirvaana69: This is the Ubuntu support channel, if you're looking to chat, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:42] <erkan^> I do now, Pici
[19:42] <Pici> erkan^: Now run ./configure again
[19:42] <erkan^> I'm very sorry for floods
[19:42] <erkan^> ie is downloading and installing now
[19:43] <erkan^> for sudo apt-get build-dep drivel
[19:43] <Pici> erkan^: You should be able to follow the instructions in INSTALL after that is completed.
[19:43] <musketshot> does ubuntu have the capability of remapping keys for specific applications?
[19:43] <nirvaana69> how do i enable multiple users on my single user ubuntu 9.04?
[19:43] <erkan^> yes
[19:44] <nirvaana69> how do i enable multiple users on my single user ubuntu 9.04?
[19:44] <erkan^> but install - introductie for drivel is general (linux, bsd, solaris),
[19:44] <bastidrazor> nirvaana69: look into adduser command
[19:45] <nirvaana69> i do not know how to give command? is there a graphical method
[19:45] <SubCool> Pici, ill do that
[19:46] <nirvaana69> if not tell me in short how do i learn  to command?
[19:46] <bastidrazor> nirvaana69: System > Administration > User and Groups
[19:47] <cablop> i need to add a domain name to my host tio be able to enable an apache https server
[19:47] <cablop> but the guide talks about a menu that it's not there
[19:47] <cablop> how can i setup that domain name?
[19:48] <seekHelp> hello
[19:48] <seekHelp> Any one got Dell studio  please ?
[19:49] <seekHelp> i've connected my laptop to an external screen and whenever i shut the laptop one it stays powered :(
[19:49] <SubCool> Pici, this is what im doing: http://www.davelachapelle.ca/guides/ubuntu-tightvnc-server/
[19:52] <nirvaana69> when i started the pc for the first time it asked me and i enterted single user by mistake how do i enable it to multiple user?
[19:52] <cablop> no people use ubuntu as server?
[19:52] <maco> cablop: i have one ubuntu server
[19:52] <slidinghorn> cablop, lots of people do -- what's your question?
[19:52] <cablop> io barely believe i ask how to asign a domain name to my server and nobody knows
[19:53] <nirvaana69> there is no user and groups there is only user in the admin
[19:53] <mullerk>  i have an ubuntu server
[19:53] <maco> cablop: this isnt exactly a server channel ;-) thatd be #ubuntu-server
[19:53] <guampa> cablop: i've used by my boss made me replace all of them with centos
[19:53] <guampa> :(
[19:53] <mullerk> it's print server, actually
[19:53] <maco> cablop: so most people here are desktop people
[19:53] <cablop> lol
[19:53] <cablop> ah, ok, thanks
[19:53] <cablop> at least an answer, not the answer but a good enough one :)
[19:53] <erkan^> Pici, thank you very much
[19:53] <Zolomon> How do I set vim as my default editor in the terminal?
[19:54] <cablop> i need a little help to setup:)
[19:54] <cablop> sorry
[19:54] <cablop> :)
[19:54] <maco> Zolomon: set the EDITOR variable in your .bashrc
[19:54] <Zolomon> like, if I type "visudo" I want VIM to be used and not nano?
[19:54] <Zolomon> ah, thanks maco!
[19:54] <guampa> what help do you need?
[19:54] <mullerk> hey guys, i'm still looking for how to install the ubuntu server in a hp server with sata driver.. the hd is not being reconized... somebody help me!
[19:55] <maco> cablop: sorry for my server i did that by going to my settings thing for my domain registrar and telling it my server's IP address. thats the only way ive ever done DNS...
[19:55] <Zolomon> maco: How can I do that..? ^^ EDITOR="/whatPath/vim"?
[19:55] <maco> Zolomon: /usr/bin/vim
[19:55] <maco> Zolomon: put "export" before it
[19:55] <nirvaana69> when i started the pc for the first time it asked me and i enterted single user by mistake how do i enable it to multiple user?there is no user and groups there is only user in the admin
[19:55] <Zolomon> maco: thanks! And then source .bashrc ?
[19:55] <maco> Zolomon: export EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim
[19:55] <Pici> nirvaana69: What did it ask you?
[19:55] <maco> Zolomon: yep
[19:55] <Zolomon> maco: Many thanks. :)
[19:55] <cablop> i see maco... :(
[19:55] <cablop> welll
[19:56] <nirvaana69> it asked me if iwanted a single user interface or where there will be multiple users of my pc?
[19:56] <dancek> Zolomon, you might want to also set VISUAL=/usr/bin/vim, i dunno what it's used for but it's in most people's configs.
[19:57] <Pici> nirvaana69: Er, and what do you see now?
[19:57] <Docteh_> i dont have it set
[19:57] <maco> cablop: if the trouble is that you have >1 domain name being hosted on one server,  you'll still need to configure dns, but then you need to play with vhosts in /etc/apache2/ ... probably apache2.conf (if i had to guess which file in that dir)
[19:58] <Pici> maco: Actually the default setup makes it easy to use vhosts by modifying files in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
[19:58] <Docteh_> cablop: are you assigning the domain or just a hostname?
[19:58] <nirvaana69> i want that the pc should have two users one me and one for the rest of my family now it is just me and accepts only my passwordand as i start my pc it automatically logs me in
[19:59] <maco> Pici: ok. *shrug* ive never had to do this yet (which umm.. i should probably get around to eventually..since..ya know...syadmin)
[19:59] <Docteh_> nirvaana69: find the users thingy in the gui and uncheck "automatically log in"
[19:59] <nirvaana69> gut?
[19:59] <nirvaana69> gui?
[19:59] <Docteh_> !gui
[20:00] <nirvaana69> how do i enable mutiple user ?
[20:00] <Jordan_U> nirvaana69: System > Administration > Login Screen to disable auto login, System > Administration > Users and Groups to add / remove / modify users.
[20:01] <nirvaana69> thanks!
[20:01] <edbian> nirvaana69, Strictly speaking, the system is multi-user because more than one user can log in at once.  The easiest way to see this is with ssh.
[20:01] <Zolomon> hmm.. I never set the password for root, how do I set it?
[20:01] <Docteh_> sudo passwd
[20:01] <Pici> Zolomon: You don't and shouldn't.  Use sudo.
[20:02] <edbian> nirvaana69, Additionally, you can be logged into the system more than one time.  Open the terminal eight times and type who into one of them.
[20:02] <Pici> !noroot
[20:02] <seekHelp> when i try to install ATI driver i've got Sorry jockey system error installArchive() failed :"(
[20:02] <charley__> !wfm
[20:02] <seekHelp> Any one know the issue ?
[20:02] <charley__> !root
[20:03] <Jordan_U> nirvaana69: Just for future reference "Single User Mode" is something very specific which you are *not* using. I just say this so that people don't misunderstand you in the future.
[20:03] <Docteh_> this anti root stuff must be an apple thing
[20:04] <Zolomon> Pici: I try to use sudo for "iptables-save > /etc/iptables.up.rules" but I receive a Permission denied message.
[20:04] <dancek> Zolomon, if you wanna play around as root, just "sudo su"
[20:04] <maco> Zolomon: tee
[20:04] <Docteh_> Zolomon: iptables-save | sudo tee /etc/iptables.up.rules
[20:05] <cablop> Docteh_: yes i need to assign the domain name, cause i need to be able to certify it, but mmmm i'm thinking that i can use another option, isn't it? just to create the certificates and so on
[20:05] <cablop> maco, the vhosts thing in the apache conf?
[20:05] <cablop> mmmm
[20:05] <Pici> dancek: And for the record, you should use sudo -i, not sudo su.
[20:05] <Docteh_> certify for like ssl?
[20:05] <maco> cablop: ive never done it before. Pici knows whats up for doing that
[20:06] <Pici> cablop: What kind of certificate are you looking for?
[20:07] <dancek> Pici, is that like "sudo su -"? i wouldn't say i always want that
[20:07] <maco> dancek: sudo -s  = su
[20:07] <tensorpudding> Does dash read ~/.profile before starting?
[20:07] <maco> dancek: sudo -i = su -
[20:07] <Pici> maco: thanks for the explanation.
[20:07] <dancek> but why should i use them?
[20:08] <nirvaana69> ok
[20:08] <Zolomon> dancek: Thanks!
[20:08] <dancek> it's easier to remember "sudo su" than "sudo -s", the same with "sudo -e" vs "sudo vi"
[20:08] <maco> dancek: fewer layers of indirection.. sudo su means executing a shell as root that switches to root
[20:08] <linxeh> dancek: sudo su is ridiculous
[20:08] <cablop> Pici:  i just need to create an https apache server
[20:08] <Zolomon> maco: Trying to understand tee, what can you use it for?
[20:08] <cablop> just that
[20:08] <Zolomon> Docteh_: Thanks!
[20:09] <nikle> ok so i have a external hdd split into 2 primary partitions lets call them E and F. on E i have standard none bootable data on F i have extracted the ubuntu iso. will it boot F automatically or do i have to flag that as the boot partition some how?
[20:09] <maco> Zolomon: only thing ive used it for is taking output from one command and sudo tee'ing it to a root-owned file
[20:09] <Jordan_U> Zolomon: echo "something that needs to be appended to a file owned by root" | sudo tee -a /some/root/owned/file
[20:10] <maco> Zolomon: the "-a" option to tee is also handy to know about (append, so it acts like >> instead of >)
[20:10] <dancek> hmm, i think i have the memory and processing power for "sudo su"... i find learning new command-line switches more costly than an extra process or so
[20:10] <nikle> i'm in windows so not using gparted im using easeus partition master
[20:10] <azlon> can i assign more than one owner to a folder/file?
[20:10] <linxeh> !unetbootin | nikle
[20:10] <Jordan_U> Zolomon: It can also be nice if you want to log the output of a command, but you still also want to see that output in stdout/err
[20:10] <linxeh> nikle: iirc, that should work fine with a hdd too
[20:11] <nikle> yh but i have multiple partitions
[20:11] <linxeh> nikle: mark one active
[20:11] <bastidrazor> azlon: read up on permissions here :: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[20:11] <floris> unetbootin should edit the boot manager shouldnt it?
[20:11] <schnux> nikle, you cant only extract the iso to the partition. never tried usb-hdd but unetbootin should work with that too, try it
[20:12] <Zolomon> Jordan_U: Ahh.. Thanks! And to you others as well.
[20:12] <Jordan_U> Zolomon: You're welcome.
[20:12] <Zolomon> What's the difference between '>' and '<'?
[20:12] <Docteh_> input or output
[20:12] <psycho_oreos> one is to and the other is from
[20:12] <nikle> google it one is less than the other is greater than
[20:12] <Docteh_> cat < /proc/cpuinfo
[20:13] <nikle> mathematically speaking
[20:13] <Scotsman> Empathy isnt connecting to msn again :(
[20:13] <floris> neither is pidgin
[20:13] <schnux> Scotsman, mine works, use 443
[20:14] <Scotsman> just chaneg port?
[20:14] <floris> prolly a bug in libpurple
[20:14] <nikle> can the inactive partition still be mounted?
[20:14] <schnux> Scotsman, yes, try it
[20:14] <Zolomon> thanks
[20:14] <azlon> bastidrazor: ok, so it looks like i just need to add my current user to another group, how can i add my current user to another group?
[20:14] <Scotsman> schnux, stil nada
[20:15] <SubCool> Pici - TY!!!!!
[20:15] <floris> man adduser
[20:15] <schnux> Scotsman, lucid ? update?
[20:15] <nikle> i'll mess ty 4 help
[20:15] <Scotsman> done and done
[20:16] <bastidrazor> azlon: sudo adduser azlon groupname
[20:16] <Scotsman> connects fine on my phone
[20:16] <schnux> Scotsman, harhar, messenger.hotmail.com is down .. mine just disconnected too
[20:16] <Scotsman> strange
[20:16] <Scotsman> oh well
[20:16] <sunny_> hello good people, is there anyone can help me with ubuntu 10.04 updated fresh install, i have audio problem i thing like many others :D :D :D
[20:17] <schnux> sunny_, $ alsamixer
[20:17] <sunny_> just install it?
[20:17] <Docteh_> its not like the instant messenger services are stable...
[20:17] <Docteh_> sunny_: you might want to specify what kind of audio problem
[20:17] <schnux> sunny_, it is installed, use it. there is a good wiki page too
[20:18] <sunny_> audio problem is that there is no sound :D
[20:18] <schnux> sunny_, that does not describe the problem
[20:18] <Docteh_> ah, so playing with a mixer makes sense
[20:18] <radar3d> My computer keeps freezing at the login screen HELP
[20:18] <sunny_> im new at this so sorry that i ask too many questions :D
[20:18] <schnux> Docteh_, alsamixer maybe tells more useful thiings than sunny :D
[20:18] <Nerdyman> Hi everyone, anyone knows a good solution when tty1-6 (Alt+CTL+Fx) consoles are not working ?  I've got an Nvidia Geforce 6200 video card.
[20:18] <Docteh_> hopefully
[20:18] <sunny_> kk ill try to install alsamixer
[20:19] <floris> @nerdyman you should probably test wheter they 're actually started
[20:19] <Docteh_> Nerdyman: is this before or after Xorg crashing?
[20:19] <schnux> sunny_, it is installed, use it
[20:19] <Tux_^> @radar3d did you upgrade to 10.04 ?
[20:19] <schnux> sunny_, look for aplay, lspci,lsmod too
[20:19] <sunny_> sorry for that but where to find alsamixer?
[20:19] <radar3d> yes Tux_^
[20:19] <Tux_^> ok
[20:20] <schnux> sunny_, just open terminal, w000! :D
[20:20] <Nerdyman> @floris How I can check ? , @Docteh_ my Xorg doesn't crash
[20:20] <floris> ps -e | grep getty should give a bunch of processes
[20:20] <Tux_^> @radar3d the hardware you are using is a old one i suppose ?
[20:20] <radar3d> I have googled the issue and tried some of the sugestions to no avail
[20:20] <floris> (5 or 6 or so)
[20:20] <radar3d> relatively new PC got it at Thanksgiving
[20:20] <Tux_^> oh ok
[20:21] <Tux_^> are you getting any particular error ?
[20:21] <Nerdyman> @floris they are working http://pastebin.com/fLUd2HVc
[20:21] <Tux_^> or is it a blank screen
[20:21] <radar3d> I can drop to root and startx just fine as root
[20:21] <Raven__> hi
[20:21] <radar3d> no error just screen locked no mouse no keyboard
[20:21] <floris> @radar3d can you chvt 1 ?
[20:21] <radar3d> no blank screen
[20:21] <floris> ow
[20:21] <floris> @nerdyman can you chvt
[20:22] <radar3d> floris, ??? what is that
[20:22] <Tux_^> ok
[20:22] <floris> should do the same as ctrl+alt +f1
[20:22] <floris> chvt 1
[20:22] <floris> that is
[20:22] <radar3d> nope cannot, tried
[20:22] <Tux_^> ok
[20:22] <Tux_^> try doing the following:
[20:22] <Zardolty> hallo
[20:23] <radar3d> I am on the machine in ubuntu now, from dropping to shell as root and starting x
[20:23] <floris> @nerdyman i had a bug once where from the tty i couldnt switch back with ctrl+alt+f7 but i could with chvt 7
[20:23] <Nerdyman> @floris "Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console"
[20:23] <radar3d> if i drop to shell and exit and login as myself it loks up
[20:23] <Tux_^> @radar3d do the following
[20:24] <Tux_^> When you insert the CD and boot, you will get a screen with a small rectangle (keyboard) and a human figure at the bottom of the screen. When u arrive at that screen, just press any key, space bar will do.
[20:24] <radar3d> like it is a permissions issue as listed on one google search but I did it and am locking up still/again
[20:24] <Tux_^> You will get the language option, select English and press enter, you will be taken to a screen with options for installation.
[20:24] <radar3d> I did not insert cd I installed via wubi
[20:24] <Tux_^> Make sure the option "Try Ubuntu without any changes" is selected (don't hit enter yet)
[20:24] <Tux_^> Now press F6 on ur keyboard.
[20:24] <Zolomon> how can I check the specifications of my system? Like CPU speed, how much ram it has etc. from the terminal?
[20:24] <Tux_^> You will see a small pop up on the right hand side of the screen, just hit escape to make it go away. And you can see a long command line which is already there.
[20:24] <Tux_^> Just start typing
[20:24] <Tux_^> i915.modeset=0 xforcevesa and press enter.
[20:25] <Tux_^> @radar3d try the above steps and it might work
[20:25] <radar3d> NO CD Tux_^
[20:25] <Tux_^> oh
[20:25] <Nerdyman> @floris with sudo chvt 1 I get a black screen, same problem
[20:25] <bastidrazor> radar3d: try creating a new user and login as that user.
[20:26] <radar3d> ok bastid_raZor
[20:26] <Nerdyman>  anyone knows a good solution when tty1-6 (Alt+CTL+Fx) consoles are black when switching to them ?  I've got an Nvidia Geforce 6200 video card.
[20:26] <Zolomon> aha, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[20:26] <noelferreira> which is the best way to have windows emulated in ubuntu 10.04. i only need it to have IE 8 running to check the design in webpages.
[20:27] <_jesse_> noelferreira: VM would be my seggestion for such use
[20:27] <_jesse_> *suggestion
[20:27] <floris> +1
[20:27] <_jesse_> noelferreira: I like virtual box
[20:27] <Nerdyman> @noelferreira, Vmware is the fastest, Virtualbox is ok, Wine should do what you want without emulation
[20:27] <Crazy> test
[20:28] <noelferreira> i tried Nerdyman but no luck
[20:28] <slinker1> not sure vmware is any faster vbox screams here
[20:28] <Monkey_Dust> Nerdyman: i haven't been able to install vmware in ubunutu, have you?
[20:28] <_jesse_> noelferreira: it's best to emulate as close to the user enviornment as possible, I wouldn't recommend wine
[20:28] <Crazy> how do you install a wireless network adapter card? i can't on my ubuntu pc
[20:29] <Nerdyman> I installed the latest version without any problems, i have to admit, I've used a cracked version
[20:29] <noelferreira> _jesse_, should i install the vbox from the repository?
[20:30] <_jesse_> noelferreira: I think I added the vbox repos to my sources, but I'm not sure
[20:30] <_jesse_> noelferreira: let me check
[20:30] <noelferreira> _jesse_, ok
[20:30] <Crazy> how do I install a wireless network adapter i've tried a bunch of things can someone please help me?
[20:30] <Rosbuntu> Crazy,  i can help u
[20:31] <Rosbuntu> Crazy,  do u use usb modem?
[20:31] <Crazy> no its pci
[20:31] <noelferreira> _jesse_, i will install the last package from the virtualbox home page
[20:31] <Rosbuntu> ohh no idea about pci but u can download wvdial first
[20:31] <Rosbuntu> if u dont have it
[20:31] <Zolomon> Is there a notification system on ubuntu that works in terminal mode?
[20:31] <_jesse_> noelferreira: I added the vbox repos to my sources, I'd recommend the same
[20:32] <Crazy> ok what is that?
[20:33] <Rosbuntu> its a software for dial up internet
[20:33] <Rosbuntu> in ubuntu
[20:33] <Rosbuntu> where can i get all the terminal commands from
[20:33] <Bookman> Anyone know how to burn a DVD -R?  I can burn the media in Windows but in Ubuntu, no matter the program, all I get is unable to WRITE@LBA=0h: Input/output error
[20:33] <cereal_killa> anyone know of a good antivirus app for ubuntu?
[20:33] <radar3d> I went in and made my user an administrator and it seems to be working
[20:33] <Rosbuntu> cereal_killa,  LoL why do u need antivius
[20:33] <Rosbuntu> for ubuntu
[20:33] <Monkey_Dust> !virus| cereal_killa
[20:34] <cereal_killa> Bookman: whatcha doing over here? lmao
[20:34] <Bookman> cereal_killa, looking for help!
[20:34] <cereal_killa> ubottu: no man, looking for somwthing to fix a freinds windoze slice with
[20:34] <HeTaL> Bookman: Can you please try burning something else? THe problem might be from the disk writer
[20:34] <Crazy> how do I install a wireless network adapter i've tried a bunch of things can someone please help me?
[20:35] <HeTaL> !ot cereal_killa
[20:35] <Bookman> HeTaL, the writer works find in windows
[20:35] <cereal_killa> damn Bookman still having burner probs?
[20:35] <ilovefairuz> cereal_killa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ClamAV
[20:35] <Bookman> always.....never can get it working no matter what drive/media I try
[20:36] <ilovefairuz> Crazy: pastebin the output of: lshw -C network
[20:36] <Bookman> CDs work with no issues
[20:36] <Crazy> what?
[20:36] <toni> Hello , i just finished downloading Wine , and i cant download Msn Messenger .
[20:37] <livingdaylight> hello
[20:37] <ilovefairuz> Cray: open a terminal and type: lshw -C network and then paste the output to a pastebin
[20:37] <Rosbuntu> what is #ubuntu-unregged
[20:37] <ilovefairuz> !terminal | Crazy
[20:37] <ilovefairuz> !paste | Crazy
[20:37] <_jesse_> toni: you mean that you can't install it? error?
[20:37] <Pici> Rosbuntu: Its where we forward unregistered people if we're having issues with spam.  Its not enforced at the moment.
[20:38] <toni> _jesse' Yea ... it wont let me install it , and when i click the name in " Downloads " it comes up as error
[20:38] <livingdaylight> some can run paltalk-express from their browser, however I just get flash crashing. Why could that be?
[20:38] <Rosbuntu> Pici,  i am registered
[20:38] <Rosbuntu> why im in #ubuntu-unregged
[20:38] <_jesse_> toni: what is the error?
[20:38] <froschi> Rosbuntu: are you?
[20:38] <Pici> Rosbuntu: You aren't.
[20:39] <jgn> When I try connecting to my server via SSH for a second connection, the server greets me and then the connection closes
[20:39] <Rosbuntu> pici i am
[20:39] <Rosbuntu> i registered my nick on freenode Pici
[20:39] <toni> _jesse: i dunno .. it just says error and then sumthing else .. : S
[20:40] <_jesse_> toni: well I can't help you without an error message
[20:40] <bastidrazor> radar3d: there is a way to reset your settings for gnome for your other user. this will probably fix the issues with that user.
[20:40] <toni> _jesse:  End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[20:40] <toni>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[20:40] <toni>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[20:40] <toni>   the last disk(s) of this archive
[20:40] <Pici> Rosbuntu: This is #ubuntu.  You aren't in #ubuntu-unregged.
[20:40] <FloodBot1> toni: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:40] <ilovefairuz> Rosbuntu: well you're in #ubuntu now!
[20:40] <Crazy> ilovefairuz: i tried it but it what should i do next?
[20:40] <ilovefairuz> jgn: most likely a server issue
[20:40] <jgn> ilovefairuz: could it be a setting?
[20:40] <Rosbuntu> Pici,  ohh okk my taskbra says im on both
[20:40] <ilovefairuz> Crazy:  paste a screenshot ?
[20:41] <ilovefairuz> !screenshot | Crazy
[20:41] <radar3d> bastidrazor, I went in and made my user an administrator and it seems to be working
[20:41] <eightbitman> hello everyone
[20:41] <_jesse_> toni: so you *were* able to download it?
[20:41]  * DarqWolff is now having problems with YouTube and a webcam
[20:41] <_jesse_> toni: what's the link?
[20:41] <DarqWolff> I think the problem lies in Flash, not the webcam
[20:41] <Pici> Rosbuntu: Your taskbar likely says that #ubuntu is set with the following modes: +Lcntf #ubuntu-unregged
[20:41] <ilovefairuz> jgn: contact the server administrators
[20:41] <eightbitman> I just upgraded to 10.4 on a HP 6000 series computer
[20:41] <jgn> that's me!
[20:41] <jgn> I could contact my host though.
[20:41] <bastidrazor> radar3d: the login issues are gone when you did that? and what exactly do you mean by made your user an administrator?
[20:41] <DarqWolff> Anyone know how the hell to get flash to work?
[20:41] <eightbitman> I'm getting some errors, can someone help me?
[20:42] <toni> _jesse : i dont no if i " was " able to download it .. but thats what i comes up EVERY time .. and i cant use it ..
[20:42] <froschi> eightbitman: no, not without more details
[20:42] <_jesse_> DarqWolff: install the plugin
[20:42] <ilovefairuz> !details | DarqWolff
[20:42] <_jesse_> toni: can I see the link?
[20:42] <bastidrazor> radar3d: do you mean in User and Groups you changed your account type?
[20:42] <ToGaman> eightbitman: i did same thing from 9.10. had to reinstall
[20:42] <toni> _jesse_: :S
[20:42] <milen8204> I cant connect my  фсдф с
[20:42] <ToGaman> eightbitman: on same series comp
[20:42] <radar3d> bastidrazor, I was in x as root and went into the user manager and selected my username and made it administrator, it said I was "custom"
[20:43] <eightbitman> froschi: Right, I was just checking to see if i was in the right place for some assistance. To start with I've got a pastebin link to what happens when I do dpkg --configure -a
[20:43] <milen8204> sorry
[20:43] <_jesse_> toni: copy and paste it from the address bar
[20:43] <thecat> ANYONE KNOW HOW TO TREATE Meningoencephalitis
[20:43] <radar3d> bastidrazor, yes
[20:43] <milen8204> Where i can find a Dictionary for spell chek on Xchat ?
[20:43] <thecat> ANYONE KNOW HOW TO TREATE Meningoencephalitis
[20:43] <radar3d> thecat, shoot yourself that will cure it
[20:43] <DarqWolff> My plugins, all enabled: QuickTime Plug-in 7.2.0, Shockwave Flash 10.1 r54, Shockwave Flash 9.0 r999, VLC Multimedia Plugin, Windows Media Player Plug-in 10, DivX Web Player
[20:43] <_jesse_> toni: out of curiosity have you tried the ubuntu IM clients? is there a specific reason you *need* msn messenger?
[20:43] <eightbitman> ToGaman: I'd really like to avoid that I've got a large volume of data I don't want to lose and no way to back it up ATM
[20:43] <DarqWolff> Ubuntu 9.10
[20:43] <froschi> thecat: yeah, sure, every ubuntu user knows
[20:43] <Underscore> Ok, I've managed to shrink my Windows drive, and now have an unallocated partition of around 24gb. What should be my next step?
[20:44] <thecat> can ubuntu run run on p3 933mhz?
[20:44] <DarqWolff> And Flash doesn't work at all
[20:44] <bastidrazor> radar3d: i'm unsure to what that changed but if it is working then all is well.
[20:44] <Pici> thecat: This is the *Ubuntu* support channel, we don't fix people.
[20:44] <whyme> Am trying to install 10.04 on a laptop which has no CD device. Have created a bootable flashdrive, which boots to the installer just fine, but when it gets to the
[20:44] <toni> _jesse : uhmm . i dont think i tried that .. and im used to msn messenger , and i want to use webcam with my mother .... : (
[20:44] <thecat> can ubuntu run run on p3 933mhz?
[20:44] <DarqWolff> YouTube just gives me a black screen where the video and its controls should be, not even any error message
[20:44] <froschi> thecat: yes
[20:44] <whyme> detect and mount cd, it claims it cant find the cd...
[20:44] <andreas> thecat, sure
[20:44] <RyanP> thecat, Yes.
[20:44] <thecat> and 256mb ram?
[20:44] <andreas> moeah
[20:44] <DarqWolff> And FaceBook webcam support just doesn't show up
[20:44] <_jesse_> toni: what about skype?
[20:44] <andreas> thecat, netinstall
[20:44] <froschi> thecat: uh, i run it on 384...
[20:44] <radar3d> yep, but while I was in the process of creating the new user you suggested I saw mine said "custom" bastidrazor
[20:45] <thecat> what bout alt install?
[20:45] <DarqWolff> I can't get any flash thing to do anything at all, including give me an error message.
[20:45] <Pici> !requirements | thecat
[20:45] <thecat> im think about install ubuntu for my granny
[20:45] <whyme> btw: I'm using the alt iso...
[20:45] <bastidrazor> radar3d: so does mine.
[20:45] <ToGaman> eightbitman: i booted the live-dvd version with no errors, that showed me it was the upgrade that went bad, i backed up and reinstalled from scratch using live-dvd
[20:45] <DarqWolff> thecat, you wouldn't happen to also be known as TheHackerCat, would you?
[20:45] <thecat> no
[20:45] <mick__> Im trying to compile a addon for the g15  jkeyboard in ubuntu 9.10. I have "./configure"  and it went fine. but when i run make i get a  "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXtst" Any idea  what this could mean? it google showed me that  others have this problem. but none of there  solutions seemed to work. Any idea? Someone  said something about symlinks but there  instructions were a bit cryptic. Any idea how
[20:45] <mick__>  od fix this?
[20:45] <toni> _jesse : i have skype , but i dont like using it ... and pluss , i tried using it , and i can hear my mom , but she cant hear me :O
[20:45] <milen8204> Where i can find a Dictionary for spell chek on Xchat ?
[20:45] <CrayonOfDoom> Trying to get my sound working.  Speaker test does nothing, I have an "Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)", where can I find help to properly install and use sound?
[20:45] <radar3d> bastidrazor, well as long as it works I'll stick with it
[20:46] <bastidrazor> radar3d: exactly.
[20:46] <eightbitman> ToGaman: I've got a live dvd version of 9.10 in my dvd drive right now that is not mentioned or noticed when I reboot
[20:46] <ilovefairuz> CrayonOfDoom: pastbin lshw
[20:46] <ToGaman> if the medium is ok on another comp, you have to set the correct boot-order i the bios
[20:47] <eightbitman> http://pastebin.com/nK2CCtq3
[20:47] <eightbitman> THat's my output
[20:47] <eightbitman> from doing dpkg --configure -a
[20:47] <_jesse_> toni: I see, well you might just consider trying to fix the skype problem first, but anyway what is the link to the page you are trying to download from?
[20:47] <toni> _jesse: http://explore.live.com/windows-live-messenger?os=other
[20:47] <eightbitman> And as I said before I've got some 20 gigs of pictures that I'd rather not lose that I have no way of backing up right now
[20:48] <eightbitman> unless someone knows of a free online service that will host 20 gigs of data
[20:48] <dfrank> hello All! Tell me please, where is grub config&
[20:48] <dfrank> ?
[20:48] <eightbitman> man grub
[20:48] <CrayonOfDoom> ilovefairuz: http://pastebin.com/xvFca9Ay
[20:48] <ilovefairuz> mick__: install libxtst-dev
[20:48] <eightbitman> grand unified bootloader command shell
[20:49] <guntbert> !grub | dfrank
[20:49] <guntbert> !grub2 | dfrank
[20:49] <DarqWolff> Why can't Flash just work? How does the Linux community say that they've gotten to the point where most stuff just works, but then have it so that with a completely fresh install, you can follow the exact installation instructions for a flash player and not have it work?
[20:49] <guntbert> dfrank: that depends on the grub version you have
[20:49] <_jesse_> DarqWolff: ask adobe
[20:50] <DarqWolff> Hm.
[20:50] <irule> I updated ubuntu and now it wont start
[20:50] <DarqWolff> Good point.
[20:50]  * DarqWolff misdirected his anger and apologizes
[20:50] <ilovefairuz> DarqWolff: is flash listed in "about:plugins" ?
[20:50] <_jesse_> toni: you might not have much luck getting the latest msn messenger to run, check http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=127
[20:50] <DarqWolff> ilovefairuz: Yep
[20:50] <DarqWolff> And yes, it's enabled
[20:51] <Bookman> Anyone about the burning error:  unable to WRITE@LBA=0h: Input/output error.  I've googled and all I see are problems with no solutions.
[20:51] <toni> _jesse : what do i do when i get there ?
[20:51] <ilovefairuz> DarqWolff: have you have noscript or flashblock installed ?
[20:51] <_jesse_> toni: they list the various versions and how well they work under wine
[20:51] <DarqWolff> ilovefairuz: If I do, it comes default with the installation of Ubuntu 9.10
[20:52] <ilovefairuz> DarqWolff: they are not installed by default, are you using 32bit or a 64bit machine?
[20:52] <toni> _jesse : what one would i get though .. :O
[20:53] <DarqWolff> ilovefairuz: I'm pretty sure it's 32bit, not positive though.
[20:53] <irule> I updated the latest ubuntu 10.04 and after restart, it will not start! I have grub dualboot win/ubuntu and I see a fsck message on the screen after a can not mount /dev does not exist message
[20:53] <_jesse_> toni: looks like 8.1 is the best option, but honestly I'd recommend skype
[20:53] <DarqWolff> Fscking 10.04 reboots, how do they work?
[20:54] <toni> _jesse : ok , thanks : D
[20:54] <ilovefairuz> DarqWolff: does this page work? http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager04.html
[20:54] <_jesse_> DarqWolff: lol
[20:54] <DarqWolff> :D
[20:54] <whyme> Am trying to install 10.04 on a laptop which has no CD device. Have created a bootable flashdrive, which boots to the installer just fine, but when it gets to the "detect and mount cd" it claims it cant find the "cd".. I can drop to a shell from the installer menu and manually mount the flash drive... whats up here??
[20:54] <irule> cute jokes, what do you recomend I should do to fix it?
[20:54] <ilovefairuz> !ot | DarqWolff
[20:55] <livingdaylight>  some can run paltalk-express from their browser, however I just get flash crashing. Why could that be?
[20:55] <Crazy> ilovefairuz:http://paste.ubuntu.com/471229/
[20:55] <ilovefairuz> whyme: probably a BIOS issue
[20:56] <whyme> hmm.. ok.. its a Dell D400 laptop.. I'll check to see if I have the latest bios... ty!!
[20:56] <ikonia> whyme: it won't be a bios
[20:56] <ikonia> whyme: if you can boot from the usb - you are fine
[20:57] <DarqWolff> So is there just no way to get Flash working on Ubuntu 9.10?
[20:57] <ikonia> whyme: the problem is more likley to be the bootable usb device has not been created correctly, so instead of looking at the usb, it's looking for a cdrom
[20:57] <ikonia> DarqWolff: flash works, however it's closed source so can be glitchy depending on your hardware and the site/application you're using
[20:57] <_jesse_> DarqWolff: I had it working fine
[20:57] <_jesse_> DarqWolff: 32 or 64 bit?
[20:57] <toni> _jesse : sorry , haha but , how do i download it ?
[20:57] <toni> :S
[20:58] <DarqWolff> _jesse_: I'm quite positive it's 32 bit. It's a 4-year-old Compaq notebook.
[20:58] <ikonia> DarqWolff: what are you trying to view that doesn't work
[20:58] <whyme> ikonia: so I thought... I created it in windows with the pendrivelinux.com  univeral usb installer, and used the 10.04 alternate iso...
[20:58] <ilovefairuz> whyme: how did you create the usb boot image? unetbootin ?
[20:58] <ilovefairuz> !unetbootin | whyme
[20:58] <milen8204> How I can connect to Micro SD to my Sony Ericsson K 750i whit USB cable?
[20:59] <ikonia> whyme: that's the problem, the usb drive as not been correctly created
[20:59] <Bookman> Ok, thanks folks, later
[20:59] <DarqWolff> ikonia: YouTube, which gives me a black screen where the video should be but no error message, Facebook webcam things, Chatroulette, Kongregate games, etc
[20:59] <_jesse_> DarqWolff: ah hmm, does it not work at all? or just slow?
[20:59] <whyme> so that pendrive usb writer doesnt work right??
[20:59] <_jesse_> toni: I'm having difficulty finding the old version, but I tried your link and no issues downloading the file
[20:59] <ikonia> whyme: for whatever reason, you've not created a working pen drive
[21:00] <DarqWolff> _jesse_: It doesn't work at all, it gives me either a blank space where the flash app should be or a black screen.
[21:00] <ikonia> DarqWolff: how did you install flash ?
[21:00] <_jesse_> DarqWolff: yeah kongregate's always been a little iffy
[21:00] <whyme> thanks all.. I'll check the listed links
[21:00] <DarqWolff> ikonia: I think apt-get, though I don't remember
[21:00] <toni> _jesse : well .. if your not having troubles .. why am i having difficulties ?
[21:00] <ikonia> DarqWolff: can you please pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep flash" please
[21:01] <milen8204> Anyone knows How I can connect to Micro SD to my Sony Ericsson K 750i whit USB cable?
[21:01] <_jesse_> toni: are you trying to immediately run the file? make sure you are *just* downloading it
[21:01] <ikonia> milen8204: I strongly doubt that will work
[21:02] <toni> _jesse_: i am just downloading it .. but it keeps comming up saying theres an error ..
[21:02] <ilovefairuz> Crazy: pastebin: rfkill list
[21:02] <milen8204> ikonia, thanks you have solved my problem many thanks dude
[21:02] <Crazy> Ilovefairuz: i posted the link to the screenshot what do i do now?
[21:02] <_jesse_> toni: I'll rehost it, one sec
[21:02] <ilovefairuz> Crazy: execute this command in a terminal 'rfkill list' and paste it
[21:02] <ikonia> milen8204: sorry it's not good news, but I'm pretty confident that won't work
[21:03] <toni> _jesse_ : alrighty .
[21:03] <milen8204> why ???
[21:03] <ikonia> milen8204: because the sony software is propriatary and not designed to use your laptops hardware as a drive
[21:03] <milen8204> Sh*t
[21:04] <ikonia> milen8204: please control your language, it's uncalled for
[21:04] <Crazy> ilovefairuz: ok it say hardblocked: no, softblock: no
[21:04] <milen8204> i have cenzured :D
[21:04] <ikonia> milen8204: that is not censoring, - don't use that language again please.
[21:05] <ilovefairuz> Crazy: check System > Admninistration > Hardware Drivers .. is the card listed there ?
[21:05] <irule> I updated the latest ubuntu 10.04 and after restart, it will not start! I have grub dualboot win/ubuntu and I see a fsck message on the screen after a can not mount /dev does not exist message
[21:05] <milen8204> ikonia, no problem ...
[21:05] <DarqWolff> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/Cyq5pE8m
[21:05] <Crazy> nope
[21:05] <milen8204> sorry
[21:05] <Crazy> ilovefairuz: nope
[21:06] <ikonia> DarqWolff: that looks good
[21:06] <ilovefairuz> Crazy: does 'sudo ifconfig wlan0 up' give you any errors?
[21:07] <AnxiousNut> what does "$source file" do exactly? is there a man page for it or a link? plz answer
[21:07] <Rhythmosa> Guys, Im confused. Im sitting here on the partition screen of ubuntu 10.04 with unallocated space of 26gb and I don't know which options to pick to install Linux there in a dual boot situation
[21:07] <ikonia> Rabbit67890: what are you not sure about ?
[21:07] <ikonia> ops
[21:07] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: what are you not sure about
[21:07] <Rabbit67890> um in just joining for fun
[21:07] <Crazy> ilovefairuz:no errors
[21:07] <ikonia> Rabbit67890: sorry, that was a typo
[21:08] <Rhythmosa> which options to pick
[21:08] <ilovefairuz> Crazy: ok next try: iwlist wlan0 scan
[21:08] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: ok, what are your options ?
[21:08] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: have you read the install docs ?
[21:08] <Rhythmosa> yes, but they don't match what Im seeing
[21:08] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: which documents are you reading ?
[21:08] <Rhythmosa> Im typing on iPod, sorry for typos
[21:09] <Rhythmosa> umm
[21:09] <GodFather> I changed my video card, running Lucid how do I re-configure x-windows for new video card
[21:09] <livingdaylight> anyone ever use paltalk? paltalk express is supposed to run as a flash version from any browser including Linux, but flash just keeps crashing :(
[21:09] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: no problem, no rush
[21:09] <Crazy> ilovefairuz: says failed to read scan data: network down
[21:09] <Rhythmosa> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[21:09] <ikonia> GodFather: it should do it automatically unless it's a differnt nvidia/ati card
[21:09] <floris> @godfather you'd have to install the new drivers and edit /etc/X11.conf
[21:09] <ilovefairuz> GodFather: should reconfigure itself unless you generated an xorg.conf manually
[21:09] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: ok, so what are you options
[21:09] <ikonia> floris: no he won't
[21:09] <ikonia> floris: xorg is dynamic now
[21:10] <floris> ow
[21:10] <floris> my bad
[21:10] <GodFather> I had a nvidia now I have a different card that during a fresh install is automatically dedected and configed
[21:10] <ikonia> GodFather: what is the different card
[21:10] <Rhythmosa> well I can choose manual partition or auto
[21:10] <Cheery> I've gotten tired to ssh input feeback latency. Do you know some ssh-like tool that'd let me do commands and edit files without walking over the connection all the time?
[21:10] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: those two options are listed in the document you are reading
[21:11] <ikonia> Cheery: if your connection is poor, the tool won't matter, ssh is light
[21:11] <grendal_prime> anyone in here written any client connect scripts for openvpn?
[21:12] <Rhythmosa> yes and now Im on the manual screen, and it shows /dev/sda free space. when I hit enter on that, it asks me for either logical or primary
[21:12] <livingdaylight> could someone test paltalk express doesn't crash in their browser, so I can confirm it just hates me?
[21:12] <GodFather> Ok, installed a lucid on my netbook x worked ok, then rsync'ed a full system from a nvidia based system, now it expects an nvidia video which is not there. I just want to run the config tools to detect the hard video
[21:12] <Rhythmosa> among other options
[21:12] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: ok, so make a logical or a primary partition
[21:12] <Rhythmosa> but I don't know which one
[21:12] <ilovefairuz> Crazy: what's your laptop make and model?
[21:12] <irule> I updated the latest ubuntu 10.04 and after restart, it will not start! I have grub dualboot win/ubuntu and I see a fsck message on the screen after a can not mount /dev does not exist message; then I went into recovery mode, and ran the "RECONFIGURE PACKAGES", a few minutes later, it boots ingo a graphical message that says "ubuntu in working in low resolution mode and found errors: failed to lead module i810, DRM failed, unable to open agpgart, failed to
[21:12] <irule> initialize kernel memory, coounldnt allocate video memory"
[21:12] <ikonia> GodFather: what video card have you replaced it with
[21:12] <Rhythmosa> and the docs don't explain
[21:13] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: just use primary partitions
[21:13] <livingdaylight> do I have to speak german before someone pays notice?
[21:14] <ikonia> livingdaylight: no
[21:14] <sekHelp> Anyone succeeded to install a working driver for ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570 on lucid x86_64 please :"(
[21:14] <ikonia> livingdaylight: people are under no obligation to do anything
[21:14] <GodFather> ikonia, Ok, installed a lucid on my netbook x worked ok, then rsync'ed a full system on top of the netbook from a nvidia based system, now it expects an nvidia video which is not there. I just want to run the config tools to detect the hardware video in my netbook
[21:14] <ikonia> GodFather: this is the last time I will ask
[21:14] <ikonia> GodFather: what is the NEW video card
[21:14] <Crazy> ilovefairuz: its a desktop and its scary um it has no name or model on it lol its maybe 4 years old
[21:14] <Rhythmosa> ok, and as for size, what do I enter? do I need space for a switch thing? and is it beginning or end? and what is 'use as'? and what do I put for the mount point?
[21:15] <livingdaylight> ikonia, its just funny how people like to respond if someone is 'out of line' but ask nicely a million times and one get ignored - can be frustrating. Of course no one is under any obligation to do anything - I understand
[21:15] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: that is explained in the document
[21:15] <ikonia> livingdaylight: not at all, people are busy being helped
[21:15] <GodFather> ikonia, thank you, you gave me the clue read my last message. It is fixed now, I removed the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and it auto configed thank you
[21:16] <livingdaylight> ikonia, but youre not helping me?
[21:16] <barbarianhero> Hi, I have a large map in PDF format and I want to print it out at fullsize over several pieces of paper...is there an app for that ?
[21:16] <ikonia> livingdaylight: I'm helping other people
[21:16] <livingdaylight> ikonia, you're busy telling me that you're helping other people
[21:16] <slow-motion> hi
[21:16] <barbarianhero> something in ubuntu I can use to do that?
[21:16] <GameFreak> Hi, I just made an ext3 partition in Gparted and it indicates that 2% of the drive is already used. Is this the overhead for the filesystem?
[21:16] <ikonia> livingdaylight: then I best get back to helping other people
[21:17] <ikonia> GameFreak: sounds correct
[21:17] <Crazy> ilovefairuz: we can tell you the hardware
[21:17] <Rhythmosa> well now I think I did it wrong, in the docs it says choose size and press enter. doing that closed the window and commuted my settings
[21:17] <edbian> GameFreak, Yes.
[21:17] <barbarianhero> Hi, does anyone know of an app in Ubuntu I can use to print out a large PDF over several pieces of paper?
[21:17] <GameFreak> Okay, thanks.
[21:17] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: then start again
[21:17] <ilovefairuz> Crazy: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:17] <Rhythmosa> I hit evert
[21:18] <ilovefairuz> Crazy: see if there are any updates available
[21:18] <Grozzy> Can I delete /boot partition if I regret to have GRUB installed separated?
[21:19] <ikonia> Grozzy: don't
[21:19] <ikonia> Grozzy: if you remove that partition, grub will still be on your mbr and will not work
[21:19] <ikonia> Grozzy: you need to remove grub from the mbr
[21:19] <HeTaL> Copy your home folder, and redo the whole installation.
[21:19] <Crazy> ilovefairuz: zero upgrades available probably because its on another pc with no internet at all
[21:19] <ikonia> Grozzy: your kernel is also in /boot so you'll never be able to remove that as long as you want to use ubuntu
[21:19] <barbarianhero> Hi, I have a large PDF which spans several pieces of paper, does anyone know of an app in Ubuntu I can use to print it out?  When I try and print it just prints the part that can fit on a single piece of paper?
[21:20] <ilovefairuz> Crazy: aha well you need to install upgrades from a wired connection
[21:20] <ZykoticK9> !repeat | barbarianhero
[21:20] <Grozzy> ikonia, I have a pretty strange problem, got it after using startupmanagers "reset originally settings"
[21:20] <Grozzy> ikonia, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1542428
[21:20] <barbarianhero> ubottu: ok thanks
[21:21] <Rhythmosa> the docs do not describe the screen I am seeing accurately
[21:21] <ikonia> Grozzy: your menu items are pointing at the wrong partition
[21:21] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: yes they do
[21:21] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: what is the problem ?
[21:22] <Rhythmosa> the docs don't say whether to choose beginning or end
[21:22] <Rhythmosa> and what to use as
[21:22] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: it's up to you
[21:22] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: normal is to use the begining
[21:23] <Rhythmosa> ok. and as for the mount point?
[21:23] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: why are you doing this manually if you don't really understand what you're doing ?
[21:23] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[21:23] <Rhythmosa> I assumed the instructions would be self explanatory
[21:23] <Crazy> ilovefairuz: what should i do after i update we are going to run an a wire to the pc and it will take awhile to get it so what should i do after i upgrade
[21:24] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: they are
[21:24] <dp_> hwo can i zip a folder?
[21:24] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: how many partitions have you created ?
[21:24] <sekHelp> Please help needed with ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570 and lucid :"(
[21:24] <ikonia> dp_: install the zip package, and use the zip command
[21:24] <Rhythmosa> one, I creted it in windows
[21:24] <Rhythmosa> created*
[21:24] <dp_> ikonia,  i wanted the command
[21:24] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: why did you create it in windows ?
[21:24] <dp_> :(
[21:25] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: the documetns tell you to create the partition for ubuntu in the installer
[21:25] <ilovefairuz> Crazy: it will most likely just worked by itself, ONLY if it didn't try this command: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic
[21:25] <Rhythmosa> gparted would not work
[21:25] <ShapeShifter499> how come gdebi doesn't allow 32 bit deb installs on a 64 bit comp even though 64 bit ubuntu can run 32 bit apps/games given if the system has the right stuff installed?
[21:25] <ikonia> dp_: "zip" is the commad
[21:25] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: what was the problem ?
[21:25] <Rhythmosa> it just crashed, screen went weird
[21:25] <oCean_> dp_: you can use gzip and tar combination: 'tar cvfz myzip.tgz /path/to/folder'
[21:25] <ikonia> ShapeShifter499: you can't install all 32bit applicatons
[21:25] <Rhythmosa> this was the gparte livecd
[21:25] <ilovefairuz> dp_: right click on the folder and select "compress"
[21:25] <ShapeShifter499> ikonia: ?
[21:25] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: where in the install docs does it say use that ?
[21:25] <dp_> ikonia, i tried zip Foldername
[21:26] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: it says "use the installer"
[21:26] <dp_> but it doesnt !
[21:26] <ikonia> ShapeShifter499: you can't install all 32bit debs on 64bit systems
[21:26] <ZykoticK9> ShapeShifter499, "sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture 32BITPACKEG.deb"
[21:26] <dp_> it says nothing to do ?
[21:26] <ShapeShifter499> ikonia: wouldn't the ia32 libs allow that
[21:26] <ikonia> dp_: zip zip.file list_of_files
[21:26] <ikonia> ShapeShifter499: no
[21:26] <ilovefairuz> dp_: there's an option in the right click menu of the older
[21:26] <ilovefairuz> folder *
[21:26] <Crazy> ilovefairuz: ok thank you are you going to stay online for awhile?
[21:26] <Grozzy> If "find /boot/grub/stage1" doesn't exist, and "find /grub/stage1" return hd(0,4), why do I get error 15 if the menu.lst is on the fourth partition (the same partition that the GRUB is set up to.. I think)? I mean it should not link wrong from the menu list
[21:26] <oCean_> dp_: it probably takes more options. See my previous suggestion
[21:26] <ilovefairuz> Crazy: yes i'll be around
[21:27] <ikonia> Grozzy: it is wrong in the menu
[21:27] <Rhythmosa> I tried using the installer too, but all I could see was what looked like deleting the windows partition
[21:27] <Grozzy> ikonia, Should I post the menu?
[21:27] <Crazy> ilovefairuz: it might take awhile we have to wire it through the vents lol
[21:27] <ikonia> Grozzy: no thanks
[21:27] <Rhythmosa> I was worried thatit wouldn't be shrinking it, and instead erasing it
[21:27] <ilovefairuz> Crazy: it will likely work
[21:27] <ikonia> Rhythmosa: not in manual mode
[21:27] <Rhythmosa> oh, ok
[21:27] <dp_> oCean_,  use both zip and tar ??
[21:27] <Rhythmosa> I actually have to go
[21:28] <ikonia> dp_: I've given you the format
[21:28] <stevecam> is gnome generally buggy in 10.04?
[21:28] <Rhythmosa> thank you fir the help
[21:28] <oCean_> dp_: gzip and tar. It'll leave you with a compressed archive
[21:28] <janos> hi
[21:28] <Rhythmosa> I'll probably be back
[21:28] <ikonia> ShapeShifter499: no
[21:28] <bernz> anyone here fairly clueful about GRUB/GRUB2? i want to discuss installing GRUB2 on its own boot partition (on a spontaneously-created channel, to avoid noise)... /msg me if you qualify :-)
[21:28] <ikonia> ShapeShifter499: sorry, not you
[21:28] <Rhythmosa> D:
[21:28] <ilovefairuz> !hi | janos
[21:28] <ikonia> stevecam: no
[21:28] <janos> i can't see my hd on resource
[21:28] <ikonia> bernz: just ask the question, is this ubuntu ?
[21:28] <ShapeShifter499> ikonia: xDD
[21:28] <ilovefairuz> bernz: pastebin sudo fdisk -l
[21:28] <ShapeShifter499> ikonia: irc fail
[21:28] <stevecam> is there a way i could reinstall everything gnome related from console
[21:28] <bernz> ikonia, it is, but the question is fairly wordy
[21:29] <stevecam> or some settings i could reset
[21:29] <janos> some people can helpme?
[21:29] <ikonia> bernz: you don't install grub to a parition, you install it to the mbr, the config and boot files live in /boot
[21:29] <ilovefairuz> !details | janos
[21:29] <ikonia> janos: maybe if you ask a question
[21:29] <ShapeShifter499> ikonia: what abour this---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=563838
[21:29] <ShapeShifter499> *about
[21:30] <ikonia> ShapeShifter499: what about it ?
[21:30] <stevecam> my desktop will randomly crash and now i am just getting weird behaviour when i click on things
[21:30] <janos> ikonia i have a problem with sdc1 i can't see the hard disk on resource (this is my blkid http://paste.ubuntu.com/471236/)
[21:31] <oCean_> janos: what is "on resource" ?
[21:31] <KaiForce> i just loaded a new machine as a replacement for an older one.  Is there any way to see what packages I installed on the older machine so I can update the new one?
[21:31] <ShapeShifter499> ikonia: 32 bit ubuntu apps can run in 64 bit ubuntu
[21:31] <ZykoticK9> ShapeShifter499, the most recent post in that ubuntu forum thread is Jan 2008, kinda old don't ya think?
[21:31] <bernz> ikonia, ...but here goes: i have a small ext2 partition for bootloader(s); i want to put as much of GRUB2 on it (including /boot and /etc/default/...), but i want those directories to "merge" with the Ubuntu installation that will be placed further up the disk on a logical partition... i want Ubuntu to "not know" that "/boot" and parts of "/etc" are on a separate partition, so i can obliterate that partition if desired, but still have a working GRUB2
[21:31] <WaltzingAlong> KaiForce: yes
[21:31] <ZykoticK9> ShapeShifter499, many 32bit apps will run on 64bit OS yes, but not all.
[21:31] <ShapeShifter499> ZykoticK9: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit  newer :D
[21:31] <janos> on gnome risorse in italian
[21:32] <janos> resorse
[21:32] <ZykoticK9> ShapeShifter499, what are you having problems with?
[21:32] <janos> resorce
[21:32] <bernz> ikonia, as GRUB2 needs "/boot" and a bit more to work, i consider those dirs part of GRUB2 (even if they are also part of the Ubuntu installation normally)
[21:32] <ikonia> ShapeShifter499: you can't install all 32bit sofware
[21:33] <ilovefairuz> bernz: you can symlink the etc stuff but i'm not sure about co-existing bootloaders on the same /boot
[21:33] <avg_guy> was wondering why I have a usb key that wont mount in this ubuntu 10.04 and will in the one in the lappy also v10.04?
[21:33] <oCean_> janos: I still don't get it. What is it that you want to do with sdc1?
[21:33] <ShapeShifter499> ZykorticK9: just was wondering why gdebi can't install 32 bit software on a 64 bit system even though the system can run 32 bit software
[21:33] <schnux> ShapeShifter499, dpkg -i --force-architecture package.deb
[21:33] <Barnabas> avg_guy, perhaps you do not have legacy usb support enabled on both pcs?
[21:33] <ikonia> ShapeShifter499: do NOT do that command
[21:34] <ZykoticK9> ShapeShifter499, "sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture 32BITPACKEG.deb" -- for the second time, i have no idea about gdebi does it have the same force-architecture switch?
[21:34] <bernz> ilovefairuz, yes! i was thinking about a clever combination of mounting and symlinking to make Ubuntu "share" those GRUB2-specific dirs with the other partition
[21:34] <ShapeShifter499> ikonia: and why not?
[21:34] <schnux> ZykoticK9, no it desnt
[21:34] <avg_guy> Barnabas, it used to mount
[21:34] <KaiForce> WaltzingAlong: ok great thanks a million :)
[21:34] <ilovefairuz> bernz: my personal opinion is it's too much hassle, shove it all in /
[21:34] <sekHelp> Sorry for bothering you but i'm i the only guy using ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570 ? what driver to use to be able to benefit fro HW acceleration please :"( ... ATI proprietay downloaded from AMD website causes xorg crash, Hardware driver application show me ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphic driver but it fails to build !
[21:34] <avg_guy> Barnabas,  but how would i check that?
[21:34] <ikonia> ShapeShifter499: because depending on the deb it may not be laid out for 64bit and break your system
[21:34] <janos> Ocean i want see inside sdc1 i can't see this hd on my computer
[21:34] <ZykoticK9> ikonia, do you think "force-arch" should be avoided?
[21:35] <bernz> avg_guy, you might want to do a "dmesg | tail -f" then plug your stick in, and see if it detects at least
[21:35] <Barnabas> avg_guy, its a setting in the BIOS of the pc
[21:35] <ikonia> ZykoticK9: unless you fully understand the package
[21:35] <ZykoticK9> ShapeShifter499, what are you installing?
[21:35] <bernz> ilovefairuz, hahaha, crap, i was thinking that too, and that most would think so... i want to do it for the challenge/understanding, but i was hoping to hear from another knowledgeable person saying "yes, it can be done", or "no, there's a hitch at point x"
[21:35] <bernz> (before beginning the madness)
[21:36] <Barnabas> avg_guy, but try to look in the dmesg log after inserting - compare the output from one pc to the other
[21:36] <ShapeShifter499> ZykorticK9: this ---> http://www.ereader.com/ereader/software/browse.htm
[21:36] <T-Co> Does someone know howto use --exec switch instead of --name in star-stop-daemon because it seems that it cannot hande names longer than 15 characters?
[21:36] <ZykoticK9> !tab > ShapeShifter499
[21:36] <ShapeShifter499> -.-
[21:36] <janos> ocean
[21:36] <ShapeShifter499> I forgot
[21:36] <janos> you can helpme?
[21:36] <Rabbit67890> _-_
[21:36] <ilovefairuz> bernz: i believe there's very little gain in doing it so, you can create a loop device disk and ticker with grub2 on it with a vmlinuz and an initrd
[21:37] <oCean_> janos: If you want to mount harddisks/partitions, you need to add the correct lines to /etc/fstab. Is you /dev/sdc1 (or the corresponding uuid) in /etc/fstab?
[21:37] <schnux> that ereader looks crappy
[21:37] <ilovefairuz> bernz: or just do the whole LFS (Linux from Scratch) challenge
[21:38] <janos> Ocean but is a secondary hd not the hd with ubuntu
[21:38] <oCean_> janos: that should not be a problem. Anyway... you can try 'sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt'
[21:39] <So_Confused> Hey all. Trying to set up an SSH tunnel between my netbook (client) and mac (server) but Putty is timing out. I have the ssh keys in place (I belIeve properly) and Remote Login set on the Mac. I know I'm missing something and no tutorial I found seems to help.
[21:39] <WaltzingAlong> KaiForce: dpkg get selections and set selections
[21:39] <oCean_> janos: also a tip: if you want to type my name, just type "oc" and hit the <tab> key, it will autocomplete my name
[21:39] <edbian> So_Confused, I can't remember exactly where it is in putty but you need to turn on the TCP_Keep_Alive option / packet.
[21:39] <janos> oc ok
[21:39] <ZykoticK9> ShapeShifter499, ereader seems to have worked on my 64bit system, but I have no idea if it's a good idea or not.  Best of luck man.
[21:40] <janos> oc what i can do for mount this hd?
[21:40] <edbian> So_Confused, Probably under connection or something.  Look around for it.  I don't have putty on this machine (linux) so I can't look for you.
[21:40] <So_Confused> edbian: I'll look at that... but I can't even connect.
[21:40] <bernz> ilovefairuz, hahaha... LFS challenge... i think i'm too old for that, i no longer have enough useful lifespan in my brain ;-)
[21:40] <oCean_> janos: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt
[21:40] <edbian> So_Confused, Ohhh, it's timing out before you can even connect!
[21:40] <So_Confused> edbian: yes
[21:40] <sometux> So_Confused, firewall in between
[21:40] <oCean_> janos: and about my nick: type "oc" + <tab>
[21:40] <edbian> So_Confused, Is the server behind a firewall / router?
[21:41] <KaiForce> WaltzingAlong: i found it, thanks again
[21:41] <KingSeta> Hey @ all, gotting problems on mounting images maybe somebody can help? http://nopaste.info/1f409f7948.html
[21:41] <So_Confused> edbian: all computers are behind the same  router now... all on the same network. I'd need to head to a cafe to try it out over the net. Might that be the problem?
[21:41] <ilovefairuz> bernz: here's a tip: skip compiling stuff and use binaries from an existing distro, will speed up the process considerably and make it less "boring"
[21:41] <ShapeShifter499> ZykoticK9: ok thanks anyways
[21:41] <edbian> So_Confused, No no that should make it simpler.  Can you ping the server?
[21:41] <oCean_> KingSeta: does /media/TMP exist?
[21:41] <So_Confused> edbian: I don't know how to do that
[21:42] <KingSeta> Sure it exitsts
[21:42] <oCean_> KingSeta: err does /mnt/TMP exist?
[21:42] <bernz> ilovefairuz, cool, yes, that sounds like a good timesaver... well, i might still do it, but maybe for now, i'll just go with good old legacy GRUB
[21:42] <edbian> So_Confused, In a terminal: ping <ip address of router>
[21:42] <oCean_> KingSeta: I meant with the capital TMP ?
[21:42] <KingSeta> sure ^^
[21:42] <avg_guy> Barnabas,  this is what i get http://pastebin.com/RJbrhwaQ
[21:42] <sometux> So_Confused, nmap <your server's ip>
[21:42] <irule> ok I have working GUI but my mouse and keyboard do not respond, how may I fix it?
[21:43] <oCean_> KingSeta: have you tried w/out the -t option?
[21:43] <So_Confused> edbian: destination host unreachable
[21:43] <sometux> So_Confused, nmap allows you to discover the open ports on remote host
[21:43] <KingSeta> yes, then it means it needs a filetype! (i remember times it does alone...)
[21:43] <So_Confused> sometux: kk
[21:43] <edbian> So_Confused, That's your problem.  The two computers cannot talk to each other over the network.  Can either one get to the internet?
[21:43] <So_Confused> edbian: all can get to the net
[21:44] <edbian> So_Confused, what does "sudo tracert <ip of server>"  say?
[21:44] <bernz> ilovefairuz, thanks for the ideas/comments :-)
[21:44] <oCean_> KingSeta: in that case, something might be wrong with the imagefile. Can you verify it's 100% valid?
[21:44] <sean> #32
[21:44] <edbian> So_Confused, That command shows how many hops the packet takes to get from you computer to the destination
[21:44] <ilovefairuz> bernz: you're welcome
[21:44] <dp_> how can i ".tar.tgz" a folder
[21:44] <edbian> So_Confused, What is the i.p. of your server and of your client machine?
[21:44] <oCean_> dp_: I showed you before
[21:45] <Muscovy> Can someone suggest a good way to compare files (preferably GUI)? I tried using diff but found it printed too much extra content.
[21:45] <KingSeta> no i cant, but i have 4 other images with the same problem, normally there is one of 10 broken but never more... (pirate bay top games xD)
[21:45] <ilovefairuz> dp_: tar cfvz filename.tar foldername
[21:45] <So_Confused> edbian: server is <IP_ADDRESS> .... how to check in ubuntu?
[21:45] <bernz> alright, off i go to do crazyish stuff :-)
[21:45] <edbian> So_Confused, ipconfig -a
[21:45] <dp_> that created  .tgz file
[21:45] <oCean_> dp_: tar cvfz myfile.tar.gz myfolder is exactly the same as tar cvfz myfile.tgz myfolder
[21:45] <oCean_> dp_: it's the same
[21:45] <edbian> So_Confused, Is the server a windows machine?
[21:45] <yotta911> how i can setup compiz using two screen? (when i active the second screen, compiz craches and fallback to metacity)
[21:45] <dp_> but the person am sending is nt able to extract it
[21:45] <So_Confused> edbian: server is a mac
[21:45] <oCean_> dp_: it created .tgz because you specified that in your command
[21:45] <ilovefairuz> dp_: tgz = tar.gz
[21:46] <dp_> ok
[21:46] <edbian> So_Confused, typo btw, it's sudo ifconfig -a
[21:46] <So_Confused> edbian: ahhh...kk
[21:46] <bastidrazor> edbian: no need for sudo or the -a :)
[21:46] <edbian> bastidrazor, Oh :P  I'm on debian, I need the sudo.  You're right about -a though
[21:46] <KingSeta> So no more ideas why Ubuntu dont likes my images? http://nopaste.info/1f409f7948.html?
[21:47] <So_Confused> edbian: says ipconfig is unknown... command not found
[21:47] <edbian> So_Confused, What ssh server is the mac running (this has little to do with the problem I suspect.  I'm just curious)?
[21:47] <edbian> So_Confused, Yeah, typo, it's ifconfig
[21:47] <edbian> So_Confused, not ip, if
[21:47] <So_Confused> edbian: simply enabled remote login. ssh is built in
[21:47] <Barnabas> avg_guy, whats the output on the pc where it works ok?
[21:47] <edbian> So_Confused, Neat :)
[21:48] <chris535> I just edited a site via ftp and refreshed in firefox and now I can't hit the site from my specific computer.  In linux, is there a cache or something that can be cleared if a route gets confused?
[21:48] <edbian> So_Confused, Do you see your ip address yet?
[21:48] <Barnabas> avg_guy, and are you running the latest kernel om both of your pcs
[21:48] <ikonia> chris535: changing a site in ftp won't change your route
[21:48] <Grozzy> Shit, now when I start the laptop not eaven the itemlist shows, just "GRUB loading, please wait... Error 15"
[21:48] <So_Confused> edbian: yes... <IP_ADDRESS>.. BUT that is the same ip as my OTHER mac..... my desktop
[21:48] <ikonia> Grozzy: stop that language now
[21:49] <econdudeawesome> what is so great about GNOME shell? I've seen a lot of blog hype about it but not sure what makes it to good
[21:49] <Rabbit67890> Please refrain from swearing (lol)
[21:49] <Grozzy> sorry
[21:49] <edbian> So_Confused, ha, really?
[21:49] <So_Confused> edbian: oops... no... <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:49] <So_Confused> edbian: sorry
[21:49] <edbian> So_Confused, oh, there ya go.
[21:49] <chris535> ikonia, I understand that but I'm fairly confident that there is something cached that both my ftp client and browser reference.  Any idea what that might be?
[21:49] <KingSeta> econdudeawesome: did you try it?
[21:49] <edbian> So_Confused, We're in good order then.
[21:49] <So_Confused> edbian: cool beans
[21:49] <ikonia> chris535: I suspect you're wrong
[21:49] <econdudeawesome> kingseta no
[21:50] <edbian> So_Confused, Mmm, I was expecting to have different IP schemes, like <IP_ADDRESS> and then <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:50] <KingSeta> econdudeawesome: then stop asking stupid questions
[21:50] <sometux> So_Confused,  192.168.x.x is unroutable ip
[21:50] <oCean_> econdudeawesome: this is technical support only. Feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic for such discussion...
[21:50] <ikonia> chris535: what exactly did you change
[21:50] <edbian> sometux, What do you mean?
[21:50] <bastidrazor> ubottu: tell econdudeawesome about terminal
[21:50] <KingSeta> oCean_: dont have any idea for my problem?
[21:50] <So_Confused> edbian: I can change the ip on the mac under system tcp/ip
[21:50] <sometux> edbian, unreachable from Internet