[00:00] <Ayabara> Dioxin: been there done that :-)
[00:00] <Ayabara> Missing something else here as well. When I have headphones in my laptop, I think that master volume should control that, but it doesn't
[00:00] <Ayabara> oh well, guess I'll tweak this more tomorrow. good night :-)
[00:11] <feelerMr> how do i list channels
[00:11] <nosrednaekim>  /list
[00:12] <feelerMr> thanks
[00:20] <noaXess> !3gp
[00:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3gp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:20] <noaXess> hi all
[00:21] <noaXess> i have 3gp video files.. is there any tool to convert it to avi?
[00:21] <grul> !3gp
[00:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3gp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:22] <grul> noaXess, Try 'ffmpeg -i input.3gp output.avi'.  Then look at the manpage for
[00:22] <grul> tweaking the output (size, bitrate, codecs etc.).
[00:22] <grul> (source: some random google result)
[00:23] <noaXess> grul: okay :)
[00:23] <grul> :p
[00:24] <grul> so i guess ffmpeg does it, i'm not sure how
[00:25] <Dr_willis> well the default ffmpeg for ubuntu may not have support for all the file types
[00:25] <Dr_willis> !find avid
[00:25] <ubotu> Found: avida-base, avida-qt-viewer, avida-viewer, sword-comm-tdavid, avidemux
[00:25] <Dr_willis> avidemux  is a nice front end that can proberly convert them.
[00:25] <jel> noaXess: there are scripts around which convert the other way... I think on kde-apps.org, as a konqueror service menu.  Should be able to just swap the direction.
[00:26] <noaXess> Dr_willis: okay..
[00:27] <jase_> hello all
[00:28] <TheWhiteRook> I've got one of those font problems in which fonts are huge...
[00:35] <davi_> a alguem de pernambuco aki
[00:38] <HighDensity> Bo
[00:38] <Dr_willis> Moo!
[00:39] <grul> !gutsy
[00:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - New Features: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/710tour - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[00:41] <noaXess> Dr_willis: are you really shure that avidemux can convert 3gp to avi?
[00:41] <noaXess> i can open the 3gp file.. but can't find any converting function
[00:42] <Dr_willis> noaXess,  IF the ffmpeg that comes with ubuntu - supports it. it Might be able to
[00:43] <Dr_willis> the ffmpeg binaries (or others in ubuntu) dont alwyas have all the latest video format supports compiled in for legal reasons I think
[00:43] <Dr_willis> Open it. save it under another format. - Youmean to say you cant figure out how to use avidmux?
[00:43] <noaXess> ffmpeg -i Video_012608_001.3gp -ar 44100 Video_012608_001.avi means unsupported codec for input
[00:43] <jel> noaXess: I think the commands I  saw for it used some combination of mencoder and ffmpeg
[00:44] <jel> noaXess: but again, look on kde-apps.org
[00:44] <Dr_willis> sounds like your ffmpeg does not have support for 3gp then
[00:44] <noaXess> okay
[00:45] <Dr_willis> FFmpeg version SVN-r11107, Copyright (c) 2000-2007 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
[00:45] <Dr_willis>   configuration: --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libtheora --enable-liba52 --enable-libx264 --enable-libgsm --enable-pp --enable-libxvid --enable-libfaac --enable-pthreads --enable-libvorbis --enable-libfaad --enable-gpl --enable-x11grab
[00:45] <Dr_willis> i compuled mine from cvs a few weeks ago.
[00:45] <Dr_willis> What uses 3gp anyway?
[00:47] <HighDensity> phones
[00:47] <HighDensity> my old sony erikson saved video files as 3gp
[00:48] <Dr_willis> Im watching videos at work on my Gameboy DS. it uses .DPG or somthing. :P
[00:48] <Dr_willis> we need more video formats!
[00:48] <Dr_willis> 30 min  show = about 50mb on that thing.
[00:49] <Dr_willis> i got a gp32 that runs linux. :) it can do xvid.
[00:49] <Dr_willis> but its only got a 2 hr battey life.
[00:49] <jel> I got a book that can do about four weeks ;)
[00:49] <Dr_willis> The DS has like 9+ hrs battery when wathing videos.
[00:50] <Dr_willis> I  keep looking for a decent Linux based Video player.. but not seen any yet.
[00:50] <jel> Dr_willis: they sound half decent.  What's the res?
[00:50] <Dr_willis> I want an Asuse EEE.
[00:50] <Dr_willis> jel,  gp32 is.. Hmm 320x240 i think.  EEE is like 2x that.
[00:51] <Dr_willis> DS is - Not sure.. proberly 320x240 also.
[00:51] <jel> Dr_willis: and the DPGs actually use that full res?
[00:51] <Dr_willis> not sure. They do look very good however. :)
[00:51] <jel> cool :)
[00:51] <Dr_willis> got a tool for windows thats a front end to make the dpg's
[00:51] <Dr_willis> its using ffmpeg in the back end i thinlk
[00:52] <HighDensity> dr willis, do you have linux running on your ds?
[00:53] <Dr_willis> HighDensity,  nope. Just a  proberly not legal Cartridge that supports MicroSD cards. :)
[00:53] <Dr_willis> But im just using it to play videos.. so that might be legal.. almost. heh
[00:53] <HighDensity> lol
[00:54] <HighDensity> i heard linux woks on the ds, but i just wanna know how easy that would be, as i have on lying around doing nothing :P
[00:54] <Dr_willis>  I cant think of anything I would do on the DS wth linux. :)
[00:54] <Dr_willis> This little R4 cartrige i got lets me play videos, roms, and homebrew stuff
[00:55] <HighDensity> i work near a free wifi spot, internet access lol
[00:55] <Dr_willis> ive heard the DS wifi can be veyr very very picky
[00:55] <Dr_willis> There is supposed tobe Opera for the Ds comming out soon.
[00:56] <HighDensity> i love opera
[00:56] <HighDensity> the best imo
[00:56] <Dr_willis> I use it on my Wii
[00:56] <Dr_willis> but thats about it. I got to many extensions I like for firefox
[01:01] <noaXess> for ffmpeg i need to enable amr_nb and amr_wb... how can i do that with the installed package from adept?
[01:02] <noaXess> !find amr
[01:02] <ubotu> Found: amrita, hamradiomenus, kstreamripper, libamrita-ruby1.8, streamripper
[01:02] <riyaadh> yo, any1 know how install .tar.gz themes?
[01:03] <riyaadh> im new 2 kubuntu
[01:03] <noaXess> riyaadh: like any other linux distribution.. just extract it with ark. or right click.. and then read install instructions :)
[01:03] <noaXess> !ark
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ark - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <swatto> hello all
[01:08] <HighDensity> hi
[01:09] <swatto> im extremely new to linux and managed to get my WUSB54GS adapter working today.  But just wondered if anyone knew anything about compiling/installing GIMP? as the guides are really hard to understand for me
[01:10] <Dr_willis> Why do you need to compile?
[01:10] <Dr_willis> its in the repos
[01:10] <Dr_willis> !info gimp
[01:10] <ubotu> gimp (source: gimp): The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> (gutsy), package size 3805 kB, installed size 10488 kB
[01:10] <swatto> it is?
[01:10] <Dr_willis> Yes :)
[01:10] <Dr_willis> has been for years.
[01:10] <swatto> ah cool thanks :D
[01:11] <HighDensity> i installed gnome, as gimp comes with it, as i like to have different gui's (that way it's all done for you) :P
[01:11] <swatto> can i install gnome instead of KDE?
[01:12] <HighDensity> you can have both
[01:12] <riyaadh> there is no instruction
[01:12] <HighDensity> and select which one you want to use before you login
[01:12] <swatto> cool, i can install from software or repos?
[01:13] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. repos are software :)
[01:13] <Dr_willis> You an install 'ubuntu-desktop' to have kubuntu and ubuntu both on the same machine
[01:15] <swatto> in repos i have: gimp-dbg, libgimp2.0 libgimp2.0-dev libgimp2.0-doc
[01:16] <swatto> hmm i go to Adept Installer and GIMP Image Editor is greyed out
[01:16] <HighDensity> is it already installed?
[01:17] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install gimp
[01:17] <Dr_willis> and see what it says
[01:18] <swatto> Reading package lists... Done
[01:18] <swatto> Building dependency tree
[01:18] <swatto> Reading state information... Done
[01:18] <swatto> Package gimp is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:18] <swatto> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:18] <swatto> is only available from another source
[01:18] <swatto> E: Package gimp has no installation candidate
[01:19] <Dr_willis> update, upgrade and try again
[01:19] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get update
[01:19] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:19] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install gimp
[01:20] <swatto> same message :(
[01:20] <swatto> Ign cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/main Translation-en_GB
[01:20] <swatto> Ign cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/restricted Translation-en_GB
[01:20] <swatto> Reading package lists... Done
[01:20] <swatto> swatto@Swatto-Desktop:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:20] <Dr_willis> You proberly should remove the cd from your reposotitres
[01:20] <swatto> Reading package lists... Done
[01:20] <swatto> Building dependency tree
[01:20] <swatto> Reading state information... Done
[01:20] <swatto> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:20] <swatto> swatto@Swatto-Desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install gimp
[01:20] <swatto> Reading package lists... Done
[01:20] <swatto> Building dependency tree
[01:20] <swatto> Reading state information... Done
[01:20] <swatto> how do i do that?
[01:20] <swatto> please
[01:21] <Dr_willis> theres a sources manager icon in the menus some where
[01:21] <Dr_willis> or edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file  and # comment out the cd. or delete the cdrom line.
[01:22] <phoenixz> argh.. I need to shut off a service without uninstalling that service.. there is NO chkconfig! How do i disable the starting of a service for a specific (and ALL) runlevels??
[01:23] <Dr_willis> theres other sysv config tools.
[01:24] <Dr_willis> Ubunt dosent use the runlevels like othe rdisrtos normally do. I recall.
[01:24] <Chase-san> Heya, is tehre a list of fundamental differences between the dvd version and the cd version of 7.1?
[01:24] <Chase-san> (other then the dvd one takes more space)
[01:24] <Dr_willis> Chase-san,  i would say stick with the cd.     I think theres more packages ON the dvd. but most are not installed by default
[01:25] <Chase-san> just checking
[01:25] <phoenixz> !chkconfig
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chkconfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <Chase-san> I was planning to replace vista with kubuntu on my soon to be arriving laptop
[01:25] <posingaspopular> !paste | swatto
[01:25] <ubotu> swatto: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:26] <Dr_willis> i recall some kde sysv config tool. It may not be installed by default however
[01:26] <Dr_willis> !find sysv
[01:26] <ubotu> Found: sysv-rc, sysvinit, sysvutils, upstart-compat-sysv, ksysv (and 5 others)
[01:26] <Dr_willis> !info ksysv
[01:26] <ubotu> ksysv (source: kdeadmin): KDE SysV-style init configuration editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 168 kB, installed size 640 kB
[01:27] <swatto> hmm looks like the whole file has been commented out dr willis - installer commented it out because failed to verify
[01:27] <swatto> i think because i didnt have internet access before hand or something?
[01:31] <swatto> anything else i can do?
[01:32] <Dr_willis> use that sources config tool in the menus
[01:33] <swatto> cant find it there any idea whats its called?
[01:33] <Dr_willis> nope
[01:33] <Dr_willis> and im not onkde so i cant look
[01:33] <Dr_willis> !sources
[01:33] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:33] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easysource - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <Dr_willis> Its in the menus somewhere. :) is all i recall someone saying about 20 min ago
[01:34] <Dr_willis> or use the add/remove icon and perhaps check the  other source/repositories
[01:35] <wftl> Is there a repo for bleeding edge KDE 4 packages? Some cool things have already been rolled into KDE 4 and it would be nice to take advantage of those changes.
[01:35] <wftl> Without waiting for official updates, I mean.
[01:36] <Odd-rationale> wftl: Try #kubuntu-kde4
[01:37] <HighDensity> can you reduce the size of the icons yet?
[01:37] <HighDensity> in KDE4 i mean
[01:37] <HighDensity> thats the only thing i don't like about it so far
[01:38] <Arv3n> [20:37] <Arv3n> Hello.
[01:38] <Arv3n> [20:37] <Arv3n> Is there a way to do KDE 4.0 on Freespire?
[01:38] <Arv3n> [20:37] <Arv3n> Shouldn't adding the repository and installing kde4base just work?
[01:38] <HighDensity> kde4-core* is how i done it
[01:39] <Arv3n> Yeah, what he said. ^^
[01:39] <wftl> Odd-rationale: Thanks. I appreciate it.
[01:39] <Arv3n> imma try it.
[01:39] <Odd-rationale> wftl: np
[01:39] <Arv3n> oh, no.
[01:39] <jab> hi all! is there a possibility to recover the mbr, when it has been overwritten by zeroes completely? (reasons apart ;-)
[01:39] <Arv3n> it wont work because the repo is for gutsy, i need feisty. >.>
[01:55] <Dr_willis> jab,  normally one would rerun update-grub or  similer from a live cd with the proper options to make a new mbr.
[01:55] <Dr_willis> Unless you are also wanting all the partitions back.. thats the data thats just after the bootloader part of the mbr... in that case.. ICK.
[01:55] <Dr_willis> :P
[01:56] <se7en> Dr_willis: you where testing mint ... how did you like it
[01:57] <Dannilion> I have a strange problem- since restarting my Gutsy machine, everytime I try to start Amarok or MythTV frontend X restarts itself
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> Dannilion: anything in the xorg log?
[01:59] <nosrednaekim>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:59] <Dannilion> thanks ;)
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> look at ti from a separate tty before logging into X (but after it crashes)
[01:59] <jab> Dr_willis: the case is quite hopeless i guess....whole mbr zeroe'd, encrypted partitions and rebooted ^^
[02:00] <Dannilion> okay, will do
[02:03] <Dr_willis> jab,  ICK. ick and icK
[02:03] <Dr_willis> se7en,  it works. has some neat things.. but they do some other things that makes you wonder 'why' :)
[02:04] <Dr_willis> se7en,  its just ubuntu with some packages added in and some of their own tools mainly.  I tend to install kubuntu-desktop over it  asap :)
[02:04] <miladen> Is there any keyloggers i can operate from a linux OS?
[02:04] <Dr_willis> miladen,  depends on what you are wanting to do exactly. :)
[02:04] <Odd-rationale> miladen: Why would you want to be keylogging? hmmm.
[02:04] <miladen> keylogger = log typing :)
[02:05] <miladen> dont worry its on my own network
[02:05] <Dr_willis> Thers the shell thats doable one way. and consoles dosable another say..
[02:05] <Odd-rationale> miladen: You just want to log yourself?
[02:05] <miladen> yes i have a "small business"
[02:05] <Dr_willis> of course what if you have users ssh'd in...
[02:05] <miladen> i have other users on my network
[02:05] <miladen> that i want to monitor... or rather i want to see how it is possible from linux
[02:06] <Dr_willis> there are logging login replacements I belive.
[02:06] <Dr_willis> but that wont get the X stuff.. just terminal commands.
[02:06] <miladen> i just switched to linux and i want to see if it has the same capabilities, and im sure it has even better in this area
[02:06] <Dr_willis> Id have to say  Hit Google. :)
[02:06] <miladen> i am hitting ;) just wanted to hear in my favorite channel first :)
[02:06] <Dr_willis> linux is so much more flexiable - you are in a whole nother ballgame.
[02:07] <miladen> the problem is that the other PC's are windows operated
[02:07] <Dr_willis> thers several ways a user could be 'on' a linux system. So what you want is not a simple task
[02:07] <miladen> linux monitoring windows machines
[02:07] <Odd-rationale> On the topic of keylogging, are there any anti-keylogging software for linux? I know there is one for firefox windows only.
[02:08] <Dannilion> okay, saved a copy of the xorg log after a crash... it's not making sense to me, so I'll upload it
[02:08] <miladen> so -> no there is no simple way to keylog as in windows with apps?
[02:09] <Dr_willis> no idea. Never tried it in windows.
[02:09] <miladen> in windows its just an app
[02:09] <Dr_willis> simple way = a root kit? :) but is that simple?
[02:09] <Dr_willis> that seems to tell me windows has MAJOR security issues.
[02:09] <miladen> hehe Dr_willis no it is not :)
[02:10] <Dannilion> nosrednaekim: Here's the log- can you see anything in it? It makes no sense to me http://dannimatzk.co.uk/Xorg.0.log
[02:10] <miladen> Dr_willis thats obvious
[02:11] <blizzzek> gn8
[02:13] <justin111_> is KDE4 stable yet for gaming last time i installed it it lagged my games out
[02:13] <Dr_willis> what games? :)
[02:13] <tyson_> this might sound like a n00b question, but i like firefox, and will never use konquerer, should i just uninstall konquerer?
[02:13] <justin111_> urban terror enemy territory
[02:13] <justin111_> NO
[02:14] <justin111_> well you can
[02:14] <justin111_> if you dont need a file browser
[02:14] <tyson_> i see
[02:14] <tyson_> point taken
[02:14] <justin111_> konquer is your file browser
[02:14] <tyson_> i thought thats what dolphin was
[02:14] <miladen> hmm wine cant run vice versa keylogger
[02:14] <justin111_> if you uninstall that you will have to do everything thru the console
[02:14] <tyson_> bugger that
[02:15] <tyson_> thanks boss
[02:15] <justin111_> np
[02:15] <justin111_> lol i only know cuz i did it once
[02:15] <Dr_willis> or use some other file manager. :)
[02:15] <tyson_> hehe
[02:15] <tyson_> :)
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> Dannilion: looking
[02:15] <justin111_> and may i recomend opera i like it more then firefox cuz it has built in IRC and bittorrent
[02:16] <Dannilion> nosrednaekim: thank you :)
[02:16] <tyson_> well, firefox can have those features too
[02:16] <justin111_> well yeah but you have to install them
[02:16] <justin111_> but
[02:16] <tyson_> like i am using chatzilla right now (i know pretty shitty, but works for me)
[02:16] <Dr_willis> opera is becoming the Emacs of the browser world! :0
[02:16] <tyson_> hehe
[02:16] <justin111_> it really just boils down to prefreance
[02:16] <tyson_> yeah
[02:16] <justin111_> prefrence
[02:16] <justin111_> i mean
[02:16] <justin111_> grr i cant spell
[02:17] <tyson_> ...and in the matter of taste, there is no argument
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> Dannilion: looks to me like its failing silently...
[02:17] <Dannilion> okay, thanks
[02:17] <Dannilion> I can always do a reinstall in the morning
[02:17] <justin111_> Dr_willis: how so is opera becoming emacs of browser
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> Dannilion: hmm hate to see that happen.... firsty try uninstalling amarok and mythtv.
[02:17] <Dr_willis> justin111_,  its INCLUDING torrent and irc clients.. what next a text editor? :)
[02:18] <Dr_willis> viOpera ! :0
[02:18] <xt828> if i use K3b to copy a dvd, will it include the region locking information?
[02:18] <Dr_willis> !info k9copy
[02:18] <ubotu> k9copy (source: k9copy): DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.3-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1409 kB, installed size 2748 kB
[02:18] <justin111_> Dr_willis: it has one if you install the widget you also can get a full HTML editor its graphical too
[02:18] <Dannilion> I don't want to uninstall mythtv completely as the backend is working- but will uninstall the frontend and amarok
[02:19] <Dr_willis> Im not sure how well k3b will copy a comercial dvd
[02:19] <tyson_> justin111_: yes, but does it play quake?
[02:19] <tyson_> ...what a great idea for a firefox addon
[02:19] <Dr_willis> i recall a 'java quake' somewhere.
[02:19] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:19] <xt828> only one way to find out, i guess
[02:19] <swatto> night all
[02:19] <tyson_> yes, and some dude made a .net quake 2
[02:20] <justin111_> tyson: ? what does firefox really play old school quake
[02:20] <swatto> ill have to deal with installing GIMP tommorow
[02:20] <tyson_> nah, i wish it did
[02:21] <justin111_> lol i bet you can find a CD burner for opera and a C++ IDE as well as a frontend to g++ for compiling
[02:21] <justin111_> and a personel drink mixer
[02:21] <tyson_> actually, i remember romero talking about how he wanted teleporters to work in quake where teleporters were originally supposed to take you to other servers. gives a whole new spin on hyperlinking i guess
[02:21] <Dr_willis> tyson_,  i saw that in a Quake2 Mod I belive.
[02:21] <Dr_willis> :P
[02:22] <tyson_> cool, i missed that one
[02:22] <liz_> hey ppl, how does one download and be able to open one's downloads on kubuntu??
[02:22] <justin111_> isnt this the support channel lol
[02:22] <Dr_willis> Some sort of Co-op mod with different servers and stuff. Youd join the main 'room' and see  people running about
[02:22] <Odd-rationale> liz_: I click on it :)
[02:22] <Dr_willis> and dead bodies allover the place :)
[02:22] <Dannilion> nosrednaekim: Thank you for your help. I'm going to try a hard reboot, and may not be back on tonight.
[02:23] <liz_> That didn't work last time for me when I tried dl opera browser Odd-rationale
[02:23] <g2g591> liz_: you download stuff, umm, pretty much like you would normally, if you want, you can install firefox through add/remove programs
[02:23] <justin111_> does ET:QW have native linux support
[02:23] <Odd-rationale> liz_: Opera is in the repos.
[02:23] <jab> i am getting nuts today!! just installed kubuntu 4 the first time, edited the sudoers, saved it, but made a typo. now everytime i call 'sudo' he reports a parsing error. how am i supposed to correct that, when i cant open the sudoers anymore ??
[02:24] <liz_> Ooo I'm going to check that g2g591
[02:24] <Dr_willis> jab,  boot live cd. mount the isntalled system. edit the file.
[02:24] <jab> ufffff, nothing easier ?
[02:24] <justin111_> kubuntu 4?
[02:24] <Dr_willis> jab,  or boot to rescue mode
[02:25] <jab> 4 = for the first time
[02:25] <tyson_> does compiz come with kubuntu?
[02:25] <Dr_willis> easier? learn to not make mistakes on critucal files. :)
[02:25] <justin111_> yeah
[02:25] <Qrawl> ok so....   can I use kubuntu-kde4.0-i386.iso   as an install disc on an empty HD?
[02:25] <justin111_> tyson: yeah
[02:25] <justin111_> tyson: dont use it with any games\
[02:25] <Odd-rationale> Qrawl: Not reccomended
[02:25] <justin111_> tyson: lags them worse then playing them under KDE4
[02:25] <jab> Dr_willis: lot of truth in that ^^
[02:26] <Qrawl> Odd-rationale, Ive used KDE4, if thats what you mean
[02:26] <Dr_willis> jab,  normally i would keep a terminal open with a 'sudo -s' shell  going.. then edit the file in a DIFFERNT terminal, and verify it worked.
[02:26] <Qrawl> I just want to know if its also a basic install CD
[02:26] <tyson_> justin111_: i just installed kubuntu gutsy. i dont think it has kde4
[02:26] <Qrawl>  and does that have 686
[02:27] <Odd-rationale> Qrawl: No, I think it is better to upgrade an existing install. But that is my opinion. You can certainly install with the live cd.
[02:27] <Qrawl> Odd-rationale, why
[02:27] <liz_> I'm unable to click on firefox in add/remove
[02:27] <jab> Dr_willis: i'll keep that in mind...i'm just used to the traditional su method
[02:28] <justin111_> no it doesny
[02:28] <justin111_> doesnt
[02:28] <justin111_> but you should try it out to get used to it
[02:28] <Odd-rationale> Qrawl: The Kde 4 live cd seems to be missing some core ubuntu stuffs. You will have to remove ubiquity after installation.
[02:28] <Dr_willis> i was thinking the kde4 live cd's dident have an installer..yet.
[02:28] <Qrawl> Odd-rationale, oh ok ty
[02:28] <Dr_willis> but i just toy with them. :)
[02:28] <Odd-rationale> Dr_willis: It does have an installer.
[02:29] <Odd-rationale> At least when I downloaded it.
[02:29] <tyson_> justin111_: i heard it crashes a bit. im a complete dummy when it comes to linux, so i wanna avoid crashes
[02:29] <Dr_willis> May be the older ones dident.
[02:29] <Odd-rationale> But I;m using 3.5 right now.
[02:29] <miladen> If i installed an app using wine in C:program files
[02:29] <miladen> where do i find it?
[02:29] <Dr_willis> If you want to avoide crashes.. then avoide kde4 for now. :)
[02:29] <justin111_> it wont crash as long as you use it
[02:29] <Dr_willis> miladen,  its in the .wine direcory
[02:29] <Odd-rationale> miladen: ~/.wine
[02:29] <justin111_> i mean dont use it
[02:29] <justin111_> =P
[02:29] <tyson_> heh
[02:29] <Qrawl> kubuntu-kde4.0-i386.iso        11-Jan-2008 01:16  554M
[02:30] <miladen> Odd-rationale how do you make the wavy line ? :D
[02:30] <Qrawl> lol
[02:30] <Odd-rationale> miladen: like this ~~~~~ :)
[02:30] <miladen> :(
[02:30] <liz_> I installed kubuntu along with windows and when the pc starts I'm not able to boot into windows... do I have to reinstall xp?
[02:30] <Dr_willis> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[02:30] <justin111_> i have to reboot my kubuntu install is done
[02:30] <Odd-rationale> miladen: You have to find it. Many keybaords have it near the escape key.
[02:31] <Odd-rationale> miladen: It is the uppercas of `
[02:31] <miladen> yeah try on a danish keyboard
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> liz_: windows isn't on the grub boot menu?
[02:31] <Odd-rationale> miladen: just do /home/miladen/.wine
[02:31] <Taggnostr> is there an uml editor for kubuntu?
[02:31] <Odd-rationale> assuming miladen is your username.
[02:32] <Dr_willis> !find uml
[02:32] <ubotu> Found: bouml, guml, libumlib0, libumlib0-dev, numlockx (and 6 others)
[02:32] <Dr_willis> I recall some xml editors
[02:32] <Dr_willis> !find xml
[02:32] <ubotu> Found: docbook-xml, intltool, librpc-xml-perl, libruby1.8, libxml++2.6-dev (and 203 others)
[02:32] <Dr_willis> 203 others.. heh heh
[02:32] <liz_> It is nosrednaekim, I have the option to choose it, but when I do, it just boots back up and starts kubuntu
[02:32] <Taggnostr> I'm trying with adept installer but if I deselect unsupported it can't find anything
[02:33] <Taggnostr> what happen if I install an unsupported program?
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> liz_: thats weird, Xp is ont he first partition of the hard drive right?
[02:33] <miladen> OMG! i cant find an app i just installed
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> miladen: which is...
[02:33] <Odd-rationale> miladen: What is in your ~/.wine folder?
[02:33] <miladen> a windows app for my webbank login
[02:34] <liz_> yes... it should be, it's hda1 or whatever... just doesn't start, I get the xp window but then it just boots back up
[02:34] <val0> liz_: i don't know if you want to go down that road but there is a nice little app called StarUpManager (SUM) it's very helpfull and at the same time very deadly if you don't use it right
[02:34] <Taggnostr> could I try to install an unsupported app and then remove it if there are problems?
[02:34] <miladen> I just want to find my C: folder where the hell is it?
[02:35] <Odd-rationale> try ~/.wine/drive_c
[02:35] <miladen> I CANT make that line :(
[02:35] <Odd-rationale> Then do /home/miladen
[02:35] <liz_> if I go ahead and reinstall xp using the hard drive backup, will it take over the whole hard drive or will it install in the partition it's already in?
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> Odd-rationale: might want to add a command to those lines?
[02:35] <miladen> bash: /home/miladen/.wine/drive_c: is a directory
[02:35] <Odd-rationale> miladen: I was just teasing you with the ~~~
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> liz_: you get the XP window? like the boot splash for XP?
[02:35] <val0> liz_: you can specify where to install it but it will overwrite your bootloader ?
[02:36] <Odd-rationale> miladen: Do <<cd /home/miladen/.wine/drive_c
[02:36] <Odd-rationale> Without the <<
[02:36] <Odd-rationale> nosrednaekim: You were right.
[02:36] <liz_> boot splash meaning the xp windows sign acting like it's loading but it doesnt...
[02:36] <miladen> what do i enter when there is a directory with a space in the name?
[02:37] <liz_> well that sucks val0
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> liz_: yeah... the windows logo with the sliding progress bar
[02:37] <miladen> what do i enter when there is a directory with a space in the name?
[02:37] <Odd-rationale> miladen: Use tab to auto-complete
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> miladen: include the path in "" marks
[02:37] <val0> liz_: that's why they recomment to install XP first and then linux
[02:37] <liz_> yep that's as far as it goes nosrednaekim
[02:37] <zethero1> anyone in here who can help me install elisa-extra?
[02:37] <liz_> that's what I did val0 :-P
[02:38] <Odd-rationale> g2g see ya!
[02:38] <val0> liz_: and now you can't boot into windows? or were you able to but can't now?
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> liz_: thats very odd.... sounds like a messed up windows.
[02:38] <miladen> lol its in my start menu :D
[02:39] <liz_> since I install kubuntu (yesterday) I haven't been able to go into windows and it's the primary partition with the most hd space
[02:40] <liz_> darn... in administrator&systems... can't I just make windows partition active??? maybe that would solve it
[02:40] <val0> liz_: well, you have a choice: you can overwrite your MBR with a windows XP cd and loose your linux but you'll most likely will be able to fix your windows partition...
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> well, you can regain the linux MBR pretty easily with a liveCD
[02:42] <liz_> i had plenty obstacles loading up linux... took me about 5 tries lol
[02:42] <justin111_> anyone here play urba terror
[02:42] <justin111_> urban terror
[02:42] <val0> nosrednaekim: you are right, i just ment she won't be able to boot into it
[02:43] <liz_> don't know why... cd kept freezing on one step or another... do u think that in "disks&filesystems" this can be fixed?
[02:44] <Taggnostr> I tried umbrello but it doesn't work, as usual
[02:44] <val0> miladen: do you have a Danish layout keyboard?
[02:45] <miladen> ye
[02:45] <Taggnostr> I can't understand if there incompatibility problems with ubuntu or if is just umbrello that is broken
[02:45] <val0> miladen: your "~" should be located two keys over to the right of "P" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#Danish
[02:45] <justin111_> *sings in bad voice* under my umber-ella, ella, ella, eh eh (stuck in my head my sister keeps singing it)
[02:45] <tyson_> i installed compiz, but cant seem to find where to start it
[02:46] <val0> liz_: you are just trying to boot into windows right?
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: run "compiz --replace" from a run dialog
[02:46] <miladen> Â±Â±}}?=
[02:46] <val0> miladen: lol?
[02:46] <miladen> ~
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> justin111_: I hate that song....
[02:47] <miladen> HAHA look at me guys ~~~~~~
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> miladen: w00t
[02:47] <val0> miladen: there you go!
[02:47] <miladen> you've raised me well :d
[02:47] <justin111_> nosrednaekim: so do i belive me
[02:47] <val0> miladen: now send me a box of your world favous cookies!
[02:47] <miladen> :P
[02:48] <liz_> val0: yes trying to figure out a way to do so
[02:48] <justin111_> i want my coldstone ice cream
[02:48] <val0> justin111_: coldstone is the BEST!!!
[02:49] <justin111_> im gunna get some after dinner
[02:49] <val0> liz_: ok do you only have one computer?
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> liz_: did you try activating the partition in disks and Filesystems?
[02:49] <tyson_> nosrednaekim: i did that, but the only difference i see is that the window 'frames' have no borders. like, i cant drag windows around
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: do you have an nvidia?
[02:49] <tyson_> yup
[02:49] <liz_> val0: no I have another, u suggesting I use windows in one and linux in this one?
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: google "ARGBGLXVisuals"
[02:50] <liz_> nosrednaekim: I just tried doing that and I couldn't :-/
[02:50] <val0> liz_: nope i am just asking so you don't have to log off and try a few different things
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: also, you may need emerald
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> liz_: where did it fail?
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> (in disks and filesystems)
[02:51] <justin111_> omfg go to ratemypoo.com
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> !ot | justin111_
[02:52] <ubotu> justin111_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:52] <val0> liz_: what I would suggest eventho it will take time, is to overwrite your current mbr with the windows one... try to boot into windows... if you are succefull that you know there is something wrong with your linux loader... if you still can't load window, even with the correct (windows) mbr then you know you have a windows issue rather than a boot loader issue
[02:52] <miladen> \j #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:52] <liz_> nosrednaekim: the enable/disable button weren't even activated
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> liz_: right... no need into go into admin mode and press "new" and enter datat for the new mount point
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> *you need
[02:54] <liz_> val0: I don't think its a windows issue.. well maybe it has issues w/the partition ha :)
[02:54] <purpleposeidon> How do you make urls open in an already-open konqueror window instead of a new one?
[02:54] <liz_> nosrednaekim: what would I put?
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> purpleposeidon: oh man.. I know there is a setting for that somewhere....
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> liz_: for the mount point "/media/windows"
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> liz_: for the type, ntfs
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> liz_: for the permissions, "mount and unmount by any user"
[02:56] <purpleposeidon> nosrednaekim: Yeah, I know too. :(
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> purpleposeidon: doesn't seem to be an command line option to konqueror to do that(there is for firefox)
[03:00] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[03:00] <liz_> nosrednaekim: when I pressed save it tells me the mountpoint /media/windows doesn't exist, asking me if it should be created
[03:00] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> liz_: say yes
[03:01] <liz_> nosrednaekim: ok great, now I enable it correct?
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> liz_: yes
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> purpleposeidon: ah! its in the konqueror config
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> (at least for kde4, let me check for kde3)
[03:04] <liz_> nosrednaekim: thx much, hopefully that does the trick :)
[03:04] <Dragnslcr> Anyone else have problems lately with Bluetooth devices (keyboard and mouse) getting disconnected frequently? It's been really bad the past few days
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> purpleposeidon: nope... not available for kde3 it seems
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> yet another reason to switch to kde4 ;)
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: batteries?
[03:09] <liz_> Thank you all much, that's all for now, g2g :)
[03:10] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- nope, the batteries are fine. Just recharged the mouse a day or two ago
[03:10] <Dragnslcr> They both work fine when I reconnect them, I just have to do a hidd --search every time
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> I'm lost with BT
[03:13] <crimsun> bittorrent or the company?
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> bluetooth
[03:16] <crimsun> ah, right.  The above context helps.
[03:18] <se7en> what package do i need to convert wma 2 mp3
[03:24] <tyson_> nosrednaekim:  thanks for the help with getting my window frames back
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> tyson_: did that work?
[03:27] <tyson_> i had the adlxwhatever stuff in my xorg allright, but when i installed emerald, that helped
[03:27] <tyson_> brb
[03:39] <FreeResellerDude> how come when i have youtube playing through firefox in wine when i go full screen firefox crashes?
[03:40] <sonoftheclayr> FreeResellerDude: Probably a problem with wine. What's wrong with firefox in linux?
[03:40] <g2g591> sonoftheclayr: probily the flash install
[03:41] <ForgeAus> but firefox does flash doesn't it?
[03:41] <ForgeAus> the Linux one I mean
[03:41] <sonoftheclayr> Yeah firefox does flash fine in linux
[03:42] <g2g591> sonoftheclayr: well, our install package doesn't work
[03:42] <sonoftheclayr> I just downloaded the one from the adobe
[03:42] <sonoftheclayr> Adobe lab's to be exact but that's just betas and stuff
[03:42] <g2g591> sonoftheclayr: i know, the adobe one works
[03:43] <ses59> I was wondering if kde 4 was stable and how to install it?
[03:43] <FreeResellerDude> it freezes firefox lol
[03:43] <FreeResellerDude> (sonoftheclayr)
[03:44] <sonoftheclayr> FreeResellerDude: So flah in firfox for Linux freezes it? How often or is it all the time?
[03:44] <justin111_> why is it that kubuntu goes black the to kernel (black thing with blinking text thingey) repeates steps 1-2 and then goes to normal agian
[03:44] <justin111_> just out of no where
[03:44] <FreeResellerDude> everytime i leave a flash video....
[03:44] <MaskedOne> so um my cpu (as seen in htop) is at 100% use so computer is slow and stuff is going nuts
[03:44] <MaskedOne> Any clue what the problem is?
[03:44] <g2g591> ses59: nope, its not stable, but see the announcement on kubuntu.org on how to install
[03:45] <ses59> thank you
[03:45] <g2g591> MaskedOne: use top to see the process using the cpu the most
[03:45] <ses59> i just wanted to see what 4 was like and if i needed to reinstall flash and shock using nsplugwrapper
[03:46] <MaskedOne> g2g might be easier said than done as Terminal does not load sucessfully and typing top into run gui does nothing
[03:47] <g2g591> MaskedOne: oooo.
[03:47] <justin111_> why do so many people use PCLOS
[03:47] <MaskedOne> kfmclient keeps blinking on as using 100% like 4 times over every second or 2
[03:47] <Dragnslcr> MaskedOne- ctrl-esc should open KSysGuard
[03:47] <g2g591> MaskedOne: ctrl alt f1 gives you a terminal ( ksysgaurd is kinda heavy)
[03:48] <g2g591> MaskedOne: use ctrl alt f7 to get back
[03:49] <MaskedOne> dont see a filter to see cpu oad in process table on ksysguard
[03:50] <MaskedOne> kdeinit tree keeps randomly opening kfmclient processes on opening url for fullcirclemagazine
[03:51] <g2g591> MaskedOne:  its the user% column for cpu usage, and you can kill proces using ksysgaurd
[03:51] <MaskedOne> killed entire kinit tree cause the proceses were randomly appearing and disapearing so fast
[03:51] <MaskedOne> cpu% used is about 30% now every second or so
[03:53] <MrJoey> "<justin111_> why is it that kubuntu goes black the to kernel (black thing with blinking text thingey) repeates steps 1-2 and then goes to normal agian " ==> Perhaps you had low RAM and no swap?  How much RAM do you have?
[03:53] <MrJoey> You can type 'free' to find out
[03:54] <justin111_> 1 gig DDR2 800mhz (with heat spreaders) =P
[04:04] <huayi> hi, i use kubuntu 7
[04:04] <jhutchins> Free's a bit misleading.  linux will find something to do with any memory available to it.
[04:05] <SkyNet> ok, good for you
[04:05] <huayi> hi, i use kubuntu 7.10, i want to import Ms. Access (*.mdb) files into my openoffice.org calc, how do i do that?
[04:06] <SkyNet> using jdbc connection
[04:06] <huayi> how do i do that?
[04:06] <huayi> from which menu?
[04:07] <SkyNet> first, download the jdbc driver,
[04:08] <SkyNet> let me see the menu
[04:08] <huayi> and then? i have all the repos dvd
[04:08] <SkyNet> sourceforge.net
[04:10] <SkyNet> do you try with the openOffice Database?
[04:10] <SkyNet> is there
[04:11] <huayi> no, it can, i can manage it with kexi, but still my intention is importing it to calc
[04:12] <huayi> openoffice base cannot do it
[04:24] <Impiety> anyone know why apt would think that almost every package was automatically installed and no longer require
[04:24] <neville> what does aptitude think?
[04:25] <Impiety> same
[04:25] <Impiety> I don't really understand it
[04:25] <Impiety> I installed kde4 and then removed it
[04:31] <snarkster> is there any clues yet when kde4.1 will be out?
[04:31] <g2g591> impiety: bash scripting comes in handy here, copy the list of packages to be autoremoved into a file, then run "for x in 'cat filename' ; do sudo apt-get install $x ;done
[04:32] <g2g591> Impiety: im not sure if the ;s are in the right spots, but they're close
[04:34] <Impiety> ohh
[04:34] <Impiety> gotcha
[04:34] <Impiety> i can do that
[04:34] <g2g591> Impiety, saves some typing :p
[04:34] <Impiety> oh yeah
[04:35] <mefisto__> all videos played in xine players are displaying incorrect aspect ratio. If I "disable all video scaling" in kaffeine, the aspect ratio is correct (but too small, of course). Does anyone know what's going on?
[04:36] <Impiety> would anyone happen to know what this means  Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid.
[04:36] <Impiety> gtk won't load
[04:36] <Howdies> Last I heard kde 4.1 was due around april, i think phoronix published their release schedule
[04:37] <g2g591> Howdies: i heard july
[04:38] <Howdies> sorry then, i remember mid 08 ish
[04:43] <mefisto__> any suggestions on troubleshooting xine aspect ratio?
[04:50] <sara> hello
[04:51] <sara_77> i have a dual core intel via motherboard and gutsy wont play any sound. Is there a gui utilitity like the old alsaconfig ?
[04:52] <sara_77> for getting your sound
[04:52] <sara_77> recognized
[04:53] <sara_77> im sure its a common problem
[04:53] <sub[t]rnl> !sound | sara_77
[04:53] <ubotu> sara_77: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:53] <sub[t]rnl> might wanna check alsamixer to see if anything is muted?
[04:54] <sara_77> i enabled sound, its not on mute, and I made sur eits in the right hole
[04:54] <sara_77> i think its because its onboard sound
[04:54] <sara_77> had this with the last 4 or 5 linux issues when i had onboard sound
[04:55] <sub[t]rnl> I use onboard sound, on a laptop right now, works fine
[04:55] <sara_77> sometimes it does sometimes not
[04:55] <sara_77> is yours via/
[04:56] <sub[t]rnl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[04:57] <sara_77> thanks
[05:16] <CadaverPimp> What is a good database for the running processes? I want to stop those which I do not need and cancel bootup of those which I do not require
[05:18] <draik> Much better
[05:18] <draik> !process
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about process - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <draik> !processes
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about processes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <klobster> alo?
[05:22] <draik> Alo
[05:22] <justin31> why is it out of no where that my screen will go black then to a shell then black then to a shell then it will go to normal and it wont let me play games either this all happened after i installed the nvidia driver im am so mad at (k)ubuntu it doesnt "just work"
[05:22] <draik> justin31: Seems that you don't have the right nvidia driver.
[05:23] <justin31> it works fine under ubuntu
[05:23] <justin31> i have the right driver
[05:23] <draik> restricted?
[05:23] <justin31> it seems to be a problem with X
[05:23] <justin31> yes the propeity driver
[05:23] <justin31> is there a way to update X thru apt
[05:23] <draik> Are you running compiz-fusion?
[05:24] <RobotGuy> Have you tried apt-get upgrade system
[05:24] <justin31> no i have no effects on atm
[05:26] <justin12> sorry had to restart k
[05:26] <justin12> X i mean
[05:26] <klobster> does anyone use konversation and know how to minimize it to the tray applet?  It used to do so, but it seemed to stop recently.
[05:26] <justin12> im going to update if it still does it
[05:27] <justin12> grrr it just did it again
[05:28] <ForgeAus> klobster thats the default behaviour of it
[05:28] <ForgeAus> check your config
[05:28] <justin12> is there a easy way to install teamspeak like with a .deb
[05:29] <justin12> is it in the respositorys
[05:29] <firecrotch> justin: teamspeak-client
[05:30] <klobster> ForgeAus: default to minimize to tray?
[05:30] <justin12> i wouldnt know
[05:31] <firecrotch> justin12: that's the name of the package, it's in the repositories. sudo apt-get install teamspeak-client  :)
[05:31] <ForgeAus> the default is to run it in the system tray yes
[05:31] <ForgeAus> so when it minimizes thats where it goes
[05:31] <ForgeAus> actually you use the cross box to minimize it
[05:31] <ForgeAus> (it doesn't exit the program)
[05:31] <ForgeAus> you use the system tray icon to exit it
[05:31] <justin12> but i recomend you use opera its a web browser IRC client and bit torrent client all in one and it minimizes to tray
[05:31] <ForgeAus> unless you've altered the default behaviour
[05:32] <justin12> firecrotch: yeah i figured that out thanks allready installed
[05:32] <klobster> not mine :(  cross ask if I want to quit.  I'll take a second look
[05:32] <ForgeAus> if you minimize, it should go to the taskbar
[05:32] <ForgeAus> (or panel or whatever you want to call it)
[05:32] <firecrotch> and of course, opera isn't free software ;)
[05:32] <ForgeAus> firecrotch? not free or not foss?
[05:33] <ForgeAus> I thought Opera was basically adware as opposed to freeware (or if you like advert-supported freeware)
[05:33] <firecrotch> ForgeAus:  Free as in freedom, not free as in beer
[05:34] <ForgeAus> firecrotch what do you mean by free as in beer? I don't drink alcohol
[05:34] <firecrotch> ForgeAus:  Free beer... as in, you don't have to pay for it
[05:34] <val0> firecrotch: lol
[05:34] <ForgeAus> and the difference is?
[05:34] <val0> LOL
[05:35] <klobster> found it, thanks
[05:35] <firecrotch> ForgeAus:  Free as in freedom means I can do whatever I want with it - modify it, etc
[05:36] <ubuntu> hola
[05:36] <klobster> ForgeAus: thanks for the advice, but I like konversation, else i would use seamonkey.
[05:36] <ForgeAus> well I generally don't modify programs aside from configuration
[05:36] <ForgeAus> but if I were a hacker or knew how to program them differently I may take that into consideration
[05:36] <firecrotch> Neither do I, but I feel good in the fact that I know that if I wanted to, or needed to, I could
[05:37] <ForgeAus> wouldn't that mean you don't trust the programmers who make the software to begin with?
[05:37] <ForgeAus> or you simply are keeping your options open?
[05:38] <firecrotch> Keeping my options open
[05:38] <klobster> ForgeAus: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html for more information
[05:38] <val0> ForgeAus: open source allows for transperency of programming and if everybody can see the source code and modify it at will they can improve the product and make sure that it doesn't not contain unwanted code
[05:38] <ForgeAus> well I'm an equal opportunity software enthusiast :)
[05:38] <firecrotch> Let's say I need a feature added to a web browser that no one else could ever possibly need.  Opera, I can't do that.  Firefox, I can
[05:39] <ForgeAus> of course publicly within legal limits of whatever licence the software is published with
[05:39] <firecrotch> In fact, I've been considering tweaking firefox to be able to have some of the functionality of Konqueror - namely filesystem manipulation and stuff like that
[05:40] <firecrotch> Of course, that's currently not within my realm of knowledge, but it soon could be.
[05:40] <ForgeAus> firecrotch with opera I don't see why you can't get the opera people to do it for you if you ask
[05:40] <val0> firecrotch: that would actually be really handy.., i always wanted that
[05:40] <ForgeAus> (bombard them with customization queries so they either make it configurable enough to handle any scenario or they decide to alter their licence)
[05:40] <ForgeAus> but really its their choce
[05:40] <ForgeAus> they're the ppl that program it
[05:41] <ForgeAus> grr choice
[05:41] <ForgeAus> theres merit in either approach
[05:41] <firecrotch> Exactly.  The problem that I have with programs like Opera is they usually put $ before the users
[05:41] <ForgeAus> well if they ask you to pay for it tell them bye bye...
[05:41] <RobotGuy> What would cause Kubuntu to hang up on a USB initialization?
[05:42] <ForgeAus> the onus is on them to provide you with software that works for your needs
[05:42] <firecrotch> And now, I suggest that if we want to continue this discussion, we take it to #kubuntu-offtopic before Tm_T gets mad at us :)
[05:43] <ForgeAus> lol I odn't think theres much more to discuss about it
[05:43] <ForgeAus> besides has anyone asked a question that requires support?
[05:43] <ForgeAus> oh yeah robot guy
[05:43] <firecrotch> Hahaha
[05:44] <computer> hello what's the iso burning program that comes with kubuntu everyeon
[05:44] <computer> everyone*****
[05:44] <firecrotch> Also, val0 - I wonder how many other people would be interested in that.
[05:44] <firecrotch> computer: k3b'
[05:44] <computer> thanks alot =)
[05:44] <firecrotch> without the apostrophe, of course
[05:44] <computer> ya :)
[05:46] <val0> firecrotch: i don't know, but i find it pretty annoying to have to use two or three apps when a hybrid like that could solve the issue
[05:47] <RobotGuy> I actually prefer to use separate apps for each task.
[05:47] <firecrotch> val0:  I was just thinking of a way it could be possible, as well.  I assume you've heard of IEtab, right?
[05:48] <val0> firecrotch: yes and i've used it myself, was really helpfull a few times, especially browsing m$ pages
[05:49] <Jasmin_> i installed compiz but stil i dont know what key i hav to use for see effect
[05:50] <firecrotch> val0:  Well, I figure that the code that calls the internet explorer interface could just be replaced with code to call konq instead
[05:50] <firecrotch> if I had the time to sit down, look at the source code (and learn the language) I could probably do it
[05:51] <Jasmin_> i tried some lik ctrl+alt+left key
[05:51] <computer> hmm i'm trying to create a super grub disk from kubuntu, in k3b, is this a data project trying to burn a 500kb iso image on to a cd? thanks
[05:52] <val0> firecrotch: maybe i am wrong but i think that it's little more involved than that. I think that the IEtabs is just an emulation of how Firefox interprets the code as opposed to whole deal with file handling... but i might be totally wrong
[05:52] <computer> or should i be clicking the button that says 'burn dvd iso image', but i'm trying to put stuff on cd...
[05:54] <triple-h> cioa
[05:54] <firecrotch> val0:  I'm assuming that it basically calls the IE rendering engine, and translates the firefox button controls to commands that the IE engine would understand
[05:55] <firecrotch> it basically embeds IE within FF, so to speak
[05:56] <val0> firecrotch: yeh something like that
[05:56] <val0> firecrotch: so to handle files it will need something more than that
[05:57] <firecrotch> val0:  As long as it passes the URI entered in the address bar directly to konqueror, it should work fine in handling files
[05:58] <val0> firecrotch: that's where you loose me... not enough knowledge on this end to be able to say anything either way... I just WANT stuff :D
[05:58] <Jasmin_> firecrotch: hi can u tel me about compiz i installed compiz but i dont know how do i can use
[05:58] <val0> Jasmin_: what are you trying to do with it?
[05:58] <val0> Jasmin_: did you configure it?
[05:59] <mefisto__> IE view lite is an extension that opens IE from a page displayed in firefox, and can easily be changed to open konqueror
[05:59] <Jasmin_> val0: how to do
[06:00] <firecrotch> mefisto__:  we're looking to actually embed Konq inside of a firefox tab though, similar to IEtab
[06:00] <ForgeAus> so a Konqtab :)
[06:00] <mefisto__> firecrotch: that seems much more complicated
[06:01] <val0> Jasmin_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/ConfiguringCompiz
[06:01] <firecrotch> mefisto__:  Yeah, it seems complicated, but it would be so useful!
[06:02] <firecrotch> Now that I think about it... isn't there a KPart for Konqueror?
[06:03] <mefisto__> firecrotch: but you would have konqueror in firefox, without the konqueror interface. Considering konqueror starts up so fast, it seems better to have a new konqueror window
[06:07] <val0> firecrotch: what i really need is some kind of a contraption that would change "focus" based on the application that i am physically looking at... just got this 28 inch monitor and it's a pain in the ass to use!!! maybe i should email Stephen Hawkings, I hear he has something like that
[06:08] <firecrotch> val0:  I bet that could actually be done pretty easily
[06:09] <firecrotch> val0:  Obviously it would require the use of a video camera of some kind
[06:09] <val0> firecrotch: glasses or some special contact lenses and off you go!
[06:09] <val0> firecrotch: I was thinking more like IR
[06:10] <val0> firecrotch: check this out: http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2006039346&IA=WO2006039346&DISPLAY=DESC
[06:10] <mefisto__> you want it to change focus just by looking?
[06:10] <computer> i just tried to rename an ".avi" file to an ".iso" file, but the icon still says that it's an ".avi" file, anyway i can make it change to ".iso"?
[06:10] <surgy> maybe a fealer gauge to go on your right eyelid so you can keep your right eye closed and actually look with your left eye, it whould feal for the high point where your puple is
[06:10] <firecrotch> val0:  Hmm, that would be a possible way to do it, but it would require you to physically move your head, which you probably don't do
[06:10] <surgy> computer: use acetone iso
[06:10] <val0> computer: are you trying to burn a movie?
[06:11] <val0> mefisto__: yeh something htat i can scroll through apps with, without using mouse/keys
[06:11] <mefisto__> computer: mkisofs is the command you want
[06:11] <computer> no i'm trying to test out crystal xp on my old pc
[06:11] <computer> o
[06:12] <computer> is there some way to do this in windows
[06:12] <computer> the file i downloaded is on my desktop
[06:13] <val0> computer: sorry never heard of it
[06:13] <mefisto__> "mkisofs -o cd.iso movie.avi" I think is the way to do it
[06:13] <computer> so basically i downloaded 8 rar files that extracted to an ".avi" file, the instruction that came with the download says to rename t he ".avi" file to ".iso" file, but i did that, and it's not changing
[06:13] <computer> ic
[06:13] <computer> hmm maybe i'll redownload it on kubuntu, would u happen to know someway to do it in windows?
[06:14] <val0> computer: to just rename the file?
[06:14] <mefisto__> computer: can you play the avi? or is it actually an iso image with an .avi extension?
[06:14] <val0> computer: where did you read those installation instructions??
[06:14] <computer> it's supposed to be an iso file i think
[06:14] <computer> val0 o and the instructions were included in the rar file, it came out once i extracted the rar files
[06:15] <mefisto__> renaming it will not change the content of the file from avi to iso
[06:15] <computer> val0 i'm thinking when the instruction said to rename it, it meant to change the avi file into an iso file
[06:15] <computer> mefisto__ yeah, that's where i'm stuck kinda
[06:16] <computer> cuz after the rename the icon of the file still displays three fat letters a, v, i across lol
[06:16] <computer> anyone tried acetone iso b4 like surgy suggested
[06:16] <computer> actually i'll try google a bit more too thanks everyone
[06:16] <surgy> i have its amazing
[06:17] <computer> does it change avi files into iso files? or is it  mostly for burning
[06:17] <mefisto__> try "mkisofs -o cd.iso movie.avi"
[06:19] <computer> cool,  yeah i saw u mentioned it b4, but the file i downloaded is actually on my desktop, and the desktop is windows xp hehe
[06:19] <surgy> computer: its mostly for compressing and decompressing files to or from iso formats
[06:19] <computer> surgy ic
[06:20] <computer> o and i just googled a little bit more, i think magicISO on windows can do this, and i have that program installed, so i'll try that way first
[06:20] <computer> hopefully this'll take away all the problems =)
[06:20] <mefisto__> computer: do you have kubuntu? why not just make the iso in kubuntu?
[06:20] <val0> computer: well to convert an AVI file to ISO file you can use DeVeDe and then use K3b to burn it :D
[06:20] <val0> !devede
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about devede - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <computer> mefisto__ yeah i'm typing on my kubuntu laptop, but the file is actually on a windwos desktop
[06:21] <val0> LOL
[06:21] <val0> nice
[06:21] <mefisto__> you can also use k3b to make an iso, in the burn dialog tick "only create image"
[06:22] <mefisto__> computer: so you don't have access to the file?
[06:22] <computer> no not on the laptop,  yeah i just realized how badly i framed the question, srries
[06:23] <computer> i think i just got the mess straightened out on the desktop for now tho
[06:23] <computer> it seems like magicISO in windows does similar tasks
[06:24] <mefisto__> computer: or use a kubuntu livecd in the windows machine
[06:25] <computer> o yeah that'd work, that makes sense too,  yeah i should of thought of that earlier
[06:26] <computer> yeah i was going thru all this to get an xp disk just in case i screw up mbr trying to remove ubuntu off desktop
[06:28] <g2g591> is there a kde based dock app like awn?
[06:29] <mefisto__> computer: if you have a win98 startup floppy, "fdisk /mbr" will fix it too
[06:29] <computer> mefisto__ yeah ordered my desktop with no floppy drive har har, so sad.....
[06:30] <computer> mefisto__ when i bought the desktop i kept thinking there'd be no way i'll ever get to use floppy, and it'd be extra hassle just trying to install it =)
[06:31] <firecrotch> g2g591: kooldock is kde-specific, but I've always had problems with it.  kiba-dock is also nice, but you have to compile it yourself
[06:31] <g2g591> firecrotch: ill give it a try
[06:31] <computer> can't we get kiba dock from adept now
[06:31] <firecrotch> computer:  Weren't able to the last time I checked, which was last week
[06:32] <g2g591> firecrotch: omg, we have an up to date package of it
[06:32] <computer> or maybe not nvm, i think i actually had to download and install myself too
[06:32] <firecrotch> g2g591:  that said, I use AWN with no problems at all
[06:32] <g2g591> firecrotch: well, it wont let me add a launcher
[06:32] <computer> !
[06:33] <computer> oops srry
[06:33] <computer> was testing out commands
[06:33] <Jasmin_> val0: thanks but my compiz --replace command is not working
[06:34] <Jasmin_> dhq@dhq-laptop:~$ compiz --replace
[06:34] <Jasmin_> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[06:34] <Jasmin_> Blacklisted PCIID '8086:2a02' found
[06:34] <Jasmin_> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[06:34] <Jasmin_> no /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting
[06:35] <firecrotch> Jasmin_:  I apologize if someone has already asked about this, but do you have an ATI video card, by chance?
[06:36] <g2g591> firecrotch: kooldock seems to be working pretty well so far
[06:36] <Jasmin_> firecrotch: i dont know but now what i hav to do
[06:37] <val0> Jasmin_: let me think :)
[06:38] <firecrotch> g2g591:  That's good.  Are you using compiz at all?  I think the problems I had were related to compiz and kooldock not working well together
[06:38] <g2g591> firecrotch: actually i am
[06:38] <g2g591> firecrotch: im not sure if  it matters, but im running hardy
[06:39] <firecrotch> g2g591:  that could be the difference... I had problems in Edgy, Feisty, and Gutsy
[06:39] <computer> curious/(related i guess): do kiba-dock only work when beryl is open? cuz whenever i set beryl to use kwin, on bootup i'd get kibadock in center, and black everywhere else, only when i close kiba-dock do everything go normal again, then i can start beryl, then kiba-dock, and everything's good
[06:39] <firecrotch> Haven't made the leap to hardy yet - had trouble installing it fresh
[06:40] <firecrotch> Jasmin_:  Well, first we need to find out what kind of video card you have.  Can you paste the output of lspci to a pastebin?
[06:40] <firecrotch> !pastebin | Jasmin_
[06:40] <ubotu> Jasmin_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:40] <val0> firecrotch: is there an issue with ATI v/c's and compiz?
[06:42] <firecrotch> val0: The restricted driver has to be used, the default one doesn't have support for Xgl
[06:42] <firecrotch> val0:  and xserver-xgl has to be installed
[06:42] <val0> firecrotch: nice, didn't know the first part, nvidia here
[06:43] <firecrotch> val0:  I just happened to help a friend get compiz working on ATI card earlier today, otherwise I wouldn't have known about it either
[06:44] <Jasmin_> firecrotch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53522/
[06:44] <val0> firecrotch: yes, don't you just love the feeling of an idiot in the morning and genious at night?? (didn't mean to offend you if I did!)
[06:45] <firecrotch> Haha no offense taken at all lol
[06:45] <firecrotch> And that blows that theory out of the water... Intel graphics
[06:46] <val0> firecrotch: lol, yep
[06:46] <val0> Jasmin_: is that a brand new computer?
[06:47] <g2g591> firecrotch: take back what i said about updated package, its 0.1.7 versions out of date
[06:48] <Jasmin_> val0: wel i hav dell vostro 1500
[06:49] <firecrotch> Jasmin_: Can you try this command from the terminal?  SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz --replace
[06:49] <jhend60> hi
[06:50] <jhend60> i need to set global dpi on kubuntu to 96. Any1 no how?
[06:50] <jhend60> To fix logon screen
[06:51] <console_jockey> just installed gutsy.  Installed firefox and kubuntu-restricted-extra, but flash is not working.  Is this a known issue?
[06:51] <mefisto__> jhend60: system settings > appearance > fonts > force fonts dpi
[06:52] <jhend60> no
[06:52] <console_jockey> !flash
[06:52] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:52] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[06:52] <jhend60> i need to set the dpi for the logon screen itself that sets it for kde 3
[06:53] <jhend60> flash works on firefox if u download it fresh
[06:53] <firecrotch> Jasmin_: You still with us?
[06:54] <console_jockey> then should I remove flashplugin-nonfree before installing?
[06:54] <jhend60> setxdpi i will use that
[06:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[06:54] <tyson_> hello
[06:55] <tyson_> how can i prevent nexuiz from displaying across 2 monitors? :)
[06:55] <jhend60> ok tyson can you help me set dpi of logon screen
[06:55] <MilhousePunkRock> Lately I upgraded from Feisty to Gutsy, and Amarok did not change the color scheme accordingly (although it did update to 1.4.8)
[06:55] <MilhousePunkRock> Is this a common problem? Google did not know it, and there is nothing on the amarok forums about it either
[06:56] <tyson_> i'd like to be a help, but i just installed tis kubuntu today, so im a newb and dont know the answer anyway
[06:56] <jhend60> ok
[06:56] <jhend60> because i just installed it and my logon font is huge! i have to force dpi 96 for it to work
[06:57] <Zero_Point> Hello, I appear to be having one hell of a problem.
[06:58] <Zero_Point> I was forced to restart Kubuntu because it became unresponsive, and upon restarting, my IDE HDDs wouldn't show up in post.
[06:58] <Zero_Point> They show up now, but now all I get is "Error Loading OS".
[06:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: Did you do anything crazy before the unresponsiveness?
[06:59] <firecrotch> Zero_Point:  Sounds like a hardware issue.  Is this 1 drive or multiple?
[06:59] <Zero_Point> I have 3 drives, 2 IDE and one SATA.
[06:59] <Zero_Point> Milhouse: I was trying to get Steam to work in Wine if that counts as crazy.
[06:59] <firecrotch> Zero_Point: IDE drives on the same cable?
[06:59] <Zero_Point> Yes.
[07:00] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: Don't think that would damage hardware...
[07:00] <Zero_Point> That's what I thought.
[07:00] <Zero_Point> Before it gave me the "Error Loading OS" message GRUB managed to give me an "Error 2" message.
[07:00] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: POST is before Kubuntu, if it's wrong there, it's most likely the hardware
[07:00] <Zero_Point> That's what I'm afraid of.
[07:01] <Zero_Point> But like I said, it sees the drives just fine now.
[07:01] <jhend60> also, whhen i but kubuntu just before the usplash screen comes it says an error about resource and bridge
[07:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: Grub errors are meaningful, you just have to look up what it means
[07:01] <jhend60> does that mean anything
[07:01] <firecrotch> GRUB error 2 is "Selected disk doesn't exist
[07:01] <jhend60> the line appears 9 times (resource error or something)
[07:01] <firecrotch> so the BIOS was not seeing the drive at all
[07:01] <jhend60> and then it boots fine- does this make anything not work?
[07:02] <Zero_Point> firecrotch: It sees the drives just fine as far as I can tell.
[07:03] <jhend60> #AvatarNewReleases
[07:03] <firecrotch> Zero_Point:  That's right now though.  I'm thinking faulty IDE cable
[07:03] <Zero_Point> God-dammit. Now it doesn't boot at all.
[07:03] <Zero_Point> Even pressing down the power button won't shut it off, either.
[07:04] <LamerMan> i've made a secure tcp connection over ssh, how should i close it? Is closing the ssh process that keeps that connection correct? is there some more graceful way? When i just perform kill ssh_process_id, all the ssh clients close and i need just to close one tcp over ssh coonection
[07:04] <firecrotch> How far into the POST does it get before failing?
[07:04] <Zero_Point> You mean now?  No beeps, no display.
[07:04] <firecrotch> No fans spin up, no keyboard lights flash?
[07:05] <Zero_Point> Fans spin up, didn't check the keyboard light, one sec.
[07:05] <jhend60> is it possible to start a new driver
[07:05] <jhend60> i mean channel
[07:05] <jhend60> on mirc
[07:05] <Zero_Point> NOW it's booting.
[07:05] <Zero_Point> Or it posted anyway.
[07:05] <firecrotch> jhend60:  Sure, just /join any channel you'd like to start
[07:06] <Zero_Point> I'm betting money it won't boot though.
[07:06] <Zero_Point> Sure enough.
[07:06] <firecrotch> Zero_Point: Any error code or anything?
[07:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: Did you change anything hardware-wise? When I put an OEM board in a new case, it would not turn on when the PSU fan sensor was connected...
[07:10] <Zero_Point> firecrotch: No code, just "Error Loading OS". No GRUB, no options, nothing.
[07:10] <Zero_Point> Milhouse: No hardware changes. It was running just fine up until the lock-up.
[07:11] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: Can you get in the BIOS? Maybe there is a PC health section which might tell you what is wrong already
[07:11] <Zero_Point> It was even a fresh install from this morning.
[07:11] <MilhousePunkRock> I would check for loose or obviously broken cables in the first place
[07:11] <jhend60> so can any1 help ME?
[07:12] <firecrotch> Zero_Point:  Considering the erratic behavior of this issue, I'm thinking either IDE cable or the IDE controller itself
[07:12] <firecrotch> Try unplugging the IDE cable and then booting (even if the SATA drive isn't bootable)
[07:13] <Zero_Point> God, I hope not. I can't afford another repair on this thing. Already had to replace the PSU not too long ago.
[07:14] <Zero_Point> Same thing.
[07:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: Still warranty on you mainboard?
[07:14] <jasmin__> http://pastebin.dylanhq.com/92
[07:14] <Zero_Point> Dammit, this thing's not even 1.25 years old yet.
[07:14] <Zero_Point> Don't know.
[07:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: Depends on your location then, here in good ol' Germany we have 2 year warranty by law
[07:15] <Qrawl> can someone tell me how to fix the bug where KDE4 doesnt recognize my sudo password
[07:15] <mefisto__> Zero_Point: can you boot with a livecd?
[07:15] <Zero_Point> I don't have my CD drive with me, nor do I have my CD.
[07:15] <Zero_Point> Guess I'm up Shit Creek for now.
[07:15] <Zero_Point> God-dammit, that means I'll have to reinstall Windows too.
[07:16] <firecrotch> Qrawl:  The only solution I've seen is to set a password for the root account
[07:16] <Qrawl> firecrotch, no. theres a link fix
[07:16] <Qrawl> but i forgot how
[07:16] <Zero_Point> Son of a bitch, there's a bare wire on this cable.
[07:17] <Zero_Point> Not a large exposure, but it's there.
[07:17] <Zero_Point> How the hell did that happen?!
[07:17] <firecrotch> Well, that would explain that
[07:17] <Zero_Point> It's not broken though, just exposed.
[07:18] <mefisto__> Zero_Point: is it an ide cable?
[07:18] <Zero_Point> Yes.
[07:18] <firecrotch> I suggest duct tape.
[07:18] <mefisto__> replace it
[07:18] <Zero_Point> I'll try that, but let me try something else first...
[07:18] <Qrawl> whats the name of the program that shows all the programs you can add
[07:19] <Zero_Point> Wish I could. Thought I had a replacement in my bag. I was wrong.
[07:19] <firecrotch> Qrawl:  Adept
[07:19] <Qrawl> no
[07:19] <Zero_Point> Synaptec?
[07:19] <MilhousePunkRock> Qrawl: Synaptic?
[07:19] <Qrawl> no
[07:19] <Zero_Point> I'm stumped then.
[07:19] <mefisto__> add/remove programs?
[07:19] <Qrawl> ok whats the command to run adept
[07:20] <Qrawl> yes
[07:20] <mefisto__> add/remove programs is "adept_installer"
[07:20] <Qrawl> ty
[07:21] <Zero_Point> Weird.
[07:21] <Zero_Point> I removed my SATA drive, and now GRUB is working.
[07:21] <Zero_Point> Experiment, I must.
[07:21] <firecrotch> Zero_Point:  Yeah, a bad IDE cable will cause all sorts of weird stuff
[07:21] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: Lucky you, the IDE cable is probably the cheapest part to replace
[07:21] <Zero_Point> I have tons of spares.
[07:21] <Zero_Point> They're all baby-shit yellow though.
[07:22] <mefisto__> I don't think anyone would charge you anything at all for an ide cable
[07:22] <firecrotch> Zero_Point:  Clear case?
[07:22] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: So you have a transparent case?
[07:22] <Zero_Point> Nope.
[07:22] <Zero_Point> Well, the fans in the side are so large it might as well be clear. :V
[07:22] <firecrotch> Ah
[07:22] <MilhousePunkRock> mefisto__: I could try walking into the store today and ask them to give me a free IDE cable, I bet they won't...
[07:24] <mefisto__> MilhousePunkRock: how much would they charge? I always get stuff like that for free. Unless it's a large dept store or something
[07:24] <firecrotch> I guess something like that would depend on how large of a store it is and how often you shop there.  A smaller store that you *always* go to would be more likely to help you out in that department
[07:25] <MilhousePunkRock> mefisto__: Probably in combination with a new HDD at the friendly PC store at the corner (which we don't have here anyway)...
[07:26] <mefisto__> all videos played in xine players are displaying incorrect aspect ratio. If I "disable all video scaling" in kaffeine, the aspect ratio is correct (but too small, of course). Does anyone know what's going on?
[07:26] <Zero_Point> I'll just swap in a random one, see how that goes.
[07:26] <Zero_Point> But first, a test...
[07:27] <Ahmuck> i have a zip drive, and it's properly mounted however no icon is showing up on the desktop, neither is it showing up in "storage media".  any idea why?
[07:27] <Zero_Point> And now the SATA drive is back in, and it's loading up fine.
[07:27] <Zero_Point> Man, Linux is such a headache. :V
[07:28] <Zero_Point> But for now, I must acquire some tape.
[07:28] <Zero_Point> Thank you for your help, gentlemen.
[07:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: Linux did not remove the isolation from the IDE cable, that's for sure ;)
[07:30] <Zero_Point> Well, when you run Linux all day, only to have it lock-up, and you've butted-heads with it in the past, you make assumptions. :V
[07:30] <Zero_Point> And I wouldn't put it past it...
[07:31] <val0> what's the command to start your kde? I restarted in the console mode and can't can back in :D
[07:32] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[07:32] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: thanks
[07:34] <ScorpKing> hi everyone. how can i assign a static ip to a network bridge?
[07:38] <Zero_Point> Christ, that was a scare though. I think I'll be running XP for the rest of the night.
[07:39] <val0> ok well that didn't work all too well.  And again it messed my system up. Everything went fine except that it I think recompiled my kernel and tried to make some changes to the xorg.conf but I didn't let it make them. Now when I boot it bumps me into console mode and I can't get out :D
[07:40] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: What's wrong with the NVidia driver from the repo?
[07:43] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: Try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to begin with
[07:43] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: 1. couldn't get it to work with the nvidia config console 2. the repo driver doesn't detect mine monitor propperly, nvidia driver does. I can't set max resolution with the repo driver either... I had it working once. I tried to follow the same steps as before, just this time it didn't work
[07:43] <val0> ok
[07:43] <Zero_Point> Gah, now when Kubuntu loads all I get is a black screen.
[07:44] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: Just set the monitor yourself and you will be fine
[07:45] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: I tried setting the monitor myself, my manufacturer/model do not exist. I just ran the command you asked: Package xserv-org is not installed and no info available.
[07:46] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: I wrote "xerver-xorg"
[07:49] <Zero_Point> Any ideas?
[07:49] <Zero_Point> If I press a key, I get the console. I entered the sudo command you mentioned earlier Milhouse, but it's still black.
[07:50] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: good thing you can't blush over IRC :( done. It ran me through a config. Should I just reboot?
[07:50] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: Won't hurt, but is probably not neccessary... Just restart kdm
[07:51] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: the kdm restart command?
[07:51] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[07:51] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: thanks, got it
[07:54] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: ok, i ran that command. The screen turned black and the cursor was blinking in the top left corner. I could type things but nothing happend. I changed consoles and saw Stopping K Display Manager: kdm /Starting ... but nothing happend
[07:55] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: could it be that since i had the "Console Login" option selected when installing Nvidia driver it now automatically uses console for login?
[07:56] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: Well, you can change the session type in KDM
[07:56] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: how does one do that?
[07:56] <RobotGuy> What would cause Kubuntu to lock up on a USB device initialization??
[07:57] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: plus doesn't Alt-F7 supposed to return you to the KDE?
[07:58] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: If KDM does not start at all, something is wrong with your xorg.conf. Just replace it with the backup you created before installing the nvidia driver in an unsupported way...
[07:58] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: i actually have one. Made it just before tried installing the new driver...
[07:59] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: sudo cp <backup> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:59] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: i was hoping to keep the nvidia one
[08:00] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: done and now just restart the kdm again?
[08:01] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: The driver is either nvidia, nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new or whatever, just change that line in the file... It could also help if you looked at the /var/log/xorg.0.log to see what the actual problem is...
[08:02] <ScorpKing> !bridge > me
[08:05] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: ok the first sign on trouble that i see is "Failed to initialize the Nvidia kernel module... Screens found but none have usable config... Fatal server error. No screens found"
[08:06] <sigma_1234> where does the file sharing app in kcontrol store its configuration information?
[08:06] <MilhousePunkRock> val0: Reconfigure the xserver again
[08:07] <val0> MilhousePunkRock: ok brb
[08:07] <noaXess> !video
[08:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[08:24] <blackflag> hello all :)
[08:24] <davies> hi blackflag
[08:24] <MilhousePunkRock> !hi > blackflag
[08:24] <blackflag> when I have kernel patches for a kernel 2.6.11 but I need a kernel 2.6.16
[08:28] <blackflag> !hi do you have a jabber account? > MilhousePunkRock
[08:29] <blackflag> what is to do when I want to port that kernel patches from.11 to .16?
[08:29] <MilhousePunkRock> blackflag: .16 is already somewhat old, maybe the patches are included already?
[08:29] <MilhousePunkRock> blackflag: And about jabber, I queried you
[08:29] <blackflag> no, its for the great openssi project
[08:30] <MilhousePunkRock> which I do know nothing about
[08:30] <blackflag> okay, opensssi.org
[08:30] <blackflag> http://openssi.org
[08:30] <se7en_> level1_:
[08:31] <Zero_Point> How do I change to root in the console?
[08:31] <davies> Zero_Point: sudo -s
[08:31] <Zero_Point> Thanks.
[08:32] <val0_> MilhousePunkRock: everything worked great... thanks a lot for all your help... I am back to where I was and some! It's using the Nvidia driver so my monitor was detected correctly and the resolution is higher now! Thanks again
[08:32] <MilhousePunkRock> val0_: You're welcome, nice that I could help...
[08:32] <blackflag> ! you can add me with<EMAIL_ADDRESS>> MilhousePunkRock
[08:33] <MilhousePunkRock> blackflag: the leading ! is to trigger the bot...
[08:34] <val0_> MilhousePunkRock: how does one close a tty session? I googled and cant find it
[08:35] <MilhousePunkRock> val0_: just type "exit"
[08:35] <Zero_Point> I'm having problems as well. Still getting that black screen when Kubuntu loads.
[08:36] <Zero_Point> I can enter the console when I press a key though... Any ideas?
[08:37] <val0_> MilhousePunkRock: it just logs me out but the session is still open... Maybe I phrased the questions wrong... I want to completely close the session
[08:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Zero_Point: Problems with your xorg configuration, most likely
[08:37] <Zero_Point> How would I go about fixing that?
[08:37] <MilhousePunkRock> val0_: on tty1-6? I think you cant
[08:37] <val0_> MilhousePunkRock: yep there
[08:38] <val0_> MilhousePunkRock: you can't?
[08:38] <MilhousePunkRock> val0_: AFAIK the login prompt will always remain there
[08:38] <MilhousePunkRock> unless you limit the number of tty's
[08:38] <val0_> MilhousePunkRock: i see, never knew that... thanks
[08:47] <motanel> is there some way i can change the shortcut to kill X from ctrl+alt+backspace?
[08:47] <motanel> it's the 2nd time i've pressed that by mistake
[08:48] <Zero_Point> Hallelujah, I'm back in. Thanks for your help once again.
[08:53] <JohnFlux> motanel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146590
[08:54] <motanel> JohnFlux: thank you
[08:54] <JohnFlux> motanel: it was the first hit on google :P
[08:55] <motanel> oh, right ... sorry, i completely forgot about that
[08:55] <motanel> i got carried away playing with wine
[08:55] <Kubuntuuser> hey
[08:55] <Kubuntuuser> can someone help me please
[08:55] <Kubuntuuser> =x
[08:55] <Kubuntuuser> haha
[08:56] <Kubuntuuser> I have kubuntu...
[08:56] <Kubuntuuser> and I would like to install beryl
[08:56] <Kubuntuuser> I am having trouble doing so
[08:56] <davies> !berly | Kubuntuuser
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about berly - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <davies> !beryl | Kubuntuuser
[08:56] <ubotu> Kubuntuuser: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[08:56] <Kubuntuuser> Also how can i download firefox also
[08:56] <Kubuntuuser> Its not working
[08:56] <davies> !firefox | Kubuntuuser
[08:56] <ubotu> Kubuntuuser: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:57] <motanel> and how can i set it as my default browser? i tried doing so from the ff preferences but it didn't work
[08:57] <davies> motanel: set it in System Settings
[08:58] <Kubuntuuser> I have kubuntu 7.10 though
[08:59] <davies> Kubuntuuser: open the console and type: sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:59] <Kubuntuuser> it says the file is missing maybe
[08:59] <motanel> i think i missed that, too. it works, thanks
[08:59] <Kubuntuuser> something like that
[09:00] <Kubuntuuser> it says
[09:00] <Kubuntuuser> the list of sources could not be read
[09:01] <val0_> Kubuntuuser: do you have access to Add/Remove Programs?
[09:02] <Kubuntuuser> it says....
[09:02] <respatix_> I just got a nvidia 6200.   how do I get the 3d eye candy i think its calle beryl installed and running?
[09:02] <Kubuntuuser> The APT Database could not be opened!  This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem.  Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem..
[09:02] <davies> !beryl > respatix_
[09:03] <Kubuntuuser> and I tried tose two things
[09:03] <davies> !compiz > respatix_
[09:03] <Kubuntuuser> and i get some errors
[09:03] <emilsedgh> !adeptfix | Kubuntuuser
[09:03] <ubotu> Kubuntuuser: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: Â« sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a Â»
[09:03] <val0_> Kubuntuuser: did you try what it suggests??
[09:03] <davies> val0_: < Kubuntuuser> and I tried tose two things
[09:03] <Kubuntuuser> on the second one i get http://packages.medibuntu.org/' is not known on line 77 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:04] <val0_> davies: ok cool thanks for letting me know so we don't waste time
[09:04] <davies> !source-o-matic > Kubuntuuser
[09:06] <Stilo> hi! Whats the name of the screenshot prog which can do shots of my compiz cube.. i forgot it
[09:10] <ArnaudSVT> Bonjour Ă  tous, est-ce que quelqu'un parle franĂ§ais ?
[09:11] <davies> !fr | ArnaudSVT
[09:11] <ubotu> ArnaudSVT: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:11] <ArnaudSVT> Thank you !
[09:15] <Stilo> nobody knows a little screenshot prog
[09:15] <Stilo> ?
[09:16] <val0_> !Ksnapshot | Stilo
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksnapshot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:17] <davies> !info ksnapshot | Stilo
[09:17] <ubotu> stilo: ksnapshot (source: kdegraphics): screenshot utility for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 173 kB, installed size 432 kB
[09:19] <Stilo> val0_ : thanks!
[09:19] <Kubuntuuser> I cant find system>administrator
[09:19] <xtremcer> hello
[09:19] <motanel> damn kubuntu! made me miss a job interview :/
[09:19] <Kubuntuuser> lol
[09:19] <val0_> lol
[09:19] <xtremcer> ^_^
[09:19] <xtremcer> why
[09:20] <motanel> i got trapped reading some forums
[09:20] <motanel> and i was supposed to be there 20 minutes ago
[09:24] <blizzzek-kde4> moin
[09:27] <solusipse02> What's going on everyone?
[09:30] <xtremcer> Updating by Adept
[09:34] <gr1fel> ĐșĐ°Đș ŃŃŃĐ°ĐœĐ°ĐČĐ»ĐžĐČĐ°ŃŃ .bin ŃĐ°ĐčĐ»Ń?
[09:35] <respatix_> how do I enable multiverse and universe in kubuntu
[09:35] <respatix_> how do I enable multiverse and universe in kubuntu?
[09:35] <davies> !repeat | respatix_
[09:35] <ubotu> respatix_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:36] <davies> respatix_: in /etc/apt/sources.list, uncomment the lines
[09:36] <jussi01> respatix_: system -> adept -> manage repositories -> click the boxes
[09:36] <respatix_> jussi01: I dont have adept.
[09:37] <ltuval> jh
[09:38] <jussi01> respatix_: really? do you have synaptic?
[09:41] <respatix_> jussi01: no, it was a linuxmce kubuntu install so they dont have those by default bc automatic update i guess would mess things up.
[09:41] <val0_> does anyone here run irssi?
[09:41] <respatix_> but i think repostitories already enabled.
[09:42] <davies> val0_: me :)
[09:42] <Ayabara> I have an asus laptop. In KMix I see 3 controls for output volume, PCM, Front and PC Speaker. The volume applet controls the latter. I need to fix it so that I have only PCM and Master Volume (like in Ubuntu).
[09:42] <respatix_> I'm just trying to install and use envy to get the right driver for my new nvidia 6200 card
[09:42] <jussi01> respatix_: we dont support those in here. I suggest you do a complete  reinstall with a real version of kubuntu.
[09:42] <jussi01> val0_: me also
[09:42] <Ayabara> val0_: and me :-)
[09:43] <davies> !variant | respatix_
[09:43] <ubotu> respatix_: !GTK and !Qt are !GUI toolkits (i.e. software libraries that draw buttons, textboxes, etc). !GNOME, !KDE, !Xfce and friends are "!desktop environments", which build on top of such libraries to provide a "consistent" desktop experience. !Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of GNOME. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu
[09:43] <davies> er..
[09:43] <jussi01> !mint
[09:43] <ubotu> The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate
[09:43] <val0_> davies , jussi01 , Ayabara : do you know if it is possible to run the /list command with a search parameter or do you need a script. the only thing i found about /list is -Yes
[09:44] <davies> val0_: maybe /help list?
[09:44] <Ayabara> val0_: out of my league :-/
[09:45] <jussi01> val0_: best place to ask would be #irssi
[09:46] <val0_> jussi01: i already did. 270 users are peacefully asleep on their keyboards :D
[09:46] <Ayabara> Is this the channel for sound questions on Kubuntu, or should I ask in #alsa?
[09:46] <jussi01> Ayabara: both
[09:46] <jussi01> !night
[09:46] <ubotu> It's the middle of the night in the US and Europe, and surrounds.  This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question.  Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake.  This is particularly true in the quieter channels.
[09:46] <val0_> davies: i ran that... suggests /SQUERY ALIS HELP, /SQUERY returns no such command
[09:46] <jussi01> Us anyway,,,
[09:47] <Ayabara> jussi01: ok. it's working like it should in gnome, and not in kde, so I guess it's this channel
[09:47] <davies> val0_: "Thus, on IRCNet..."
[09:48] <val0_> davies: i know, but sometimes the commands are interchangable, also there was no option specifically for freenode so i thought that it might work
[09:49] <Ayabara> !day
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about day - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <Ayabara> just wondering..
[09:49] <gr1fel> hello
[09:50] <gr1fel> how to install .bin files?
[09:50] <val0_> !bin | gr1fel
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <val0_> lol
[09:50] <val0_> gr1fel: you can mount it
[09:51] <jussi01> gr1fel: what are you trying to install?
[09:51] <val0_> gr1fel: or you can burn it
[09:51] <gr1fel>  <jussi01>, flex :)
[09:52] <Ayabara> does anyone know how I can setup my laptop media keys? I was told that with kmilo installed, I should be able to do it in system prefs, but I can't find the place
[09:52] <jussi01> !info flex | gr1fel
[09:52] <ubotu> gr1fel: flex (source: flex): A fast lexical analyzer generator.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.33-12build1 (gutsy), package size 229 kB, installed size 964 kB
[09:52] <jussi01> gr1fel: is that the one? then it is in the repos...
[09:52] <jussi01> !shortcuts | Ayabara
[09:52] <ubotu> Ayabara: keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[09:54] <noaXess> what about this l if there should be a ĂŒ?
[09:55] <noaXess> in d3lphin and konquerror.
, http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flex/flexbuilder_linux/ this one
[09:55] <jussi01> !tab > gr1fel
[09:56] <jussi01> gr1fel: have you tried installing it as it says on the site there?
[09:57] <Mediapirate> does anyone here use griP/
[09:57] <Mediapirate> ?
[09:57] <ssteo> grip or grep?
[09:58] <Mediapirate> grip
[09:58] <Mediapirate> for ripping cd's
[09:58] <ssteo> nope, i dont
[09:59] <CJari> hi
[09:59] <Mediapirate> ok thanks....how are you ssteo?
[09:59] <Mediapirate> hi cjari
[09:59] <Mediapirate> hows you?
[10:00] <CJari> I don't know why my kubuntu wont start to desktop anymore, it only loads the shell and asks for login
[10:00] <jussi01> gr1fel: ie, go to terminal as it says, go to the folder where the .bin is, (on the desktop then cd ~/Desktop) then run: chmod +x flexbuilder_linux_install_a2_121807.bin when thats done do: sh flexbuilder_linux_install_a2_121807.bin
[10:00] <CJari> is there a way to fix this? or manually start the xserver(?) ?
[10:01] <jussi01> CJari: try logging in, then typig startx
[10:01] <gr1fel> thanks
[10:01] <CJari> jussi01 : ok I tried but it fails to some errors
[10:02] <jussi01> CJari: ok. what did you do to cause this?
[10:02] <NorthByNorthWest> Hi all! I migrated from XP to Ubuntu in dec 2006, now I'd like to try KDE and Kubuntu... it simply seems to have a more professional finish! Id like som adice... I guess I can install kubuntu by 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'? Will I get KDE4 then?
[10:02] <jussi01> NorthByNorthWest: that will get you kubuntu, not kde4
[10:02] <jussi01> !kde4 | NorthByNorthWest
[10:02] <ubotu> NorthByNorthWest: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[10:03] <CJari> jussi01 : the last thing was that I used a dual monitor and the xorg settings had to be changed
[10:03] <CJari> then I just quitted
[10:03] <jussi01> CJari: ok, did you back up your old xorg?
[10:04] <NorthByNorthWest> jussi01: shall i install the kubuntu-desktop and then install kde4-core?
[10:04] <_new_kubuntu> hello - any kde ftp client (graphical) ?
[10:05] <jussi01> NorthByNorthWest: kde4 support in #kubuntu-kde4 ;)
[10:05] <jussi01> !ftp | _new_kubuntu
[10:05] <ubotu> _new_kubuntu: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:05] <jussi01> _new_kubuntu: konqueror is by far the easiest
[10:05] <jussi01> imho
[10:05] <CJari> jussi01 : yes I just found the correct backup and it works now :) (too many backups)
[10:06] <jussi01> CJari: :)
[10:06] <bazhang> konqueror is good for that _new_kubuntu
[10:06] <jussi01> _new_kubuntu: just put the ftp address in the address bar
[10:07] <NorthByNorthWest> jussi01: I saw that forum, but its desciption said "if you run KDE3 go to #kubuntu", since Im running GNOME I didnt know where to go! :) Ill go bugger KDE4-forums instead!
[10:08] <_new_kubuntu> lol konqueror do it well - Thakns boys.girls :)
[10:12] <jared> Hey guys
[10:12] <jared> I wanna do this thing that I can do on windows
[10:12] <jared> it's in accesibilty options
[10:12] <jussi01> jared: we need a little bit more info than that...
[10:12] <jared> I want to press a button on my keyboard that makes my mouse click
[10:13] <jared> lol
[10:13] <jussi01> right or left?
[10:13] <jared> left
[10:14] <jussi01> gah, I know you can do it, cant remember where atme...
[10:15] <jared> lol
[10:15] <jared> theres a shortcut thing in accessibilty
[10:15] <jared> but I dunno how to do click
[10:16] <jared> !input actions
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about input actions - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <jared> !input
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about input - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <jussi01> !shortcuts
[10:16] <ubotu> keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[10:17] <jussi01> !botabuse > jared
[10:17] <jussi01> :)
[10:17] <jared> lol
[10:17] <jared> thx will try
[10:18] <Dioxin> anyone got any experience installing ATI drivers... my downloads seem to fail on extraction :-(
[10:18] <jared> wat do I do in the Keyboard & mouse?
[10:21] <jussi01> Dioxin: what? are you not installing through restricted manager?
[10:22] <jussi01> !ati | Dioxin
[10:22] <ubotu> Dioxin: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:22] <jared> jussi01: is it mouse emulation?
[10:23] <jussi01> jared: I think that would be a correct term.
[10:23] <jared> I can't get it to work
[10:23] <jared> just does nothing
[10:23] <jussi01> jared: Im sorry, I dont know then.
[10:23] <jared> would you be able to try?
[10:24] <jussi01> not atm, im a little busy.
[10:24] <jared> could someone please try to get mouse emulation to work, and tell me if they could get it working?
[10:25] <jared> nothing ever works for me in any linux distros
[10:26] <Dioxin> cheers Jussi01 reading over it now
[10:26] <jared> what is kcontrol?
[10:26] <emilsedgh> kcontrol is the control panel of KDE 3
[10:27] <jared> and how do I get to it?
[10:27] <emilsedgh> run kcontrol command
[10:27] <jared> by doing?
[10:27] <emilsedgh> alt+f2, run kcontrol
[10:27] <jared> k
[10:29] <jared> Input actions isn't here, ubotu lied
[10:30] <jared> not much help in here today...
[10:30] <davies> either that, or we just don't know..
[10:30] <jared> lol
[10:31] <jared> could you try making a mouse emulator?
[10:31] <jared> c if urs works
[10:31] <snikker> when i start the pc i've got the "find" and "sort" conmmands running. how can i disable this?
[10:31] <jared> its in Keyboard & Mouse - System Settings
[10:31] <davies> jared: I'm on KDE4 right now
[10:31] <jared> daves: is there a difference? and how do you know im not on KDE 4?
[10:32] <jared> *davies
[10:32] <davies> jared: because you're on #kubuntu and not #kubuntu-kde4 :D
[10:32] <jared> lol
[10:34] <jared> grr
[10:34] <jared> nothign ever works, this is so annoying
[10:34] <davies> jared: and I can't find it in kde4 system settings
[10:34] <jared> lolk
[10:37] <ESL|Doomy> anyone can play with Everest poker on Kubuntu ?
[10:38] <thanasi> !wine > me
[10:38] <davies> thanasi: no, beer!
[10:39] <thanasi> hehe ;)
[10:39] <thanasi> is there a channel for wine?
[10:39] <davies> #wine?
[10:39] <thanasi> ah. #wine
[10:39] <thanasi> ty :)
[10:43] <thanasi> anyone here know how to register .ocx and .dll files manually with wine?
[10:45] <habdel> hi there, I can't login to gnome anymore !! and I am not able to trace the error using .xsession-errors
[10:46] <jussi01> habdel: try #ubuntu
[10:46] <BillGGates> hey Hey
[10:46] <jussi01> !nickspam > BillGGates
[10:46] <habdel> jussi01: I am using kubuntu, kde is working fine expect wine's products and gnome
[10:46] <BillGGates> huh
[10:46] <BillGGates> whats a nickspam ?
[10:46] <jared> ur changing ur nick
[10:46] <jared> people think thats spam
[10:47] <BillGGates> oh
[10:47] <BillGGates> <---- Noob dunno too much about this chat thing
[10:47] <jussi01> BillGGates: you should have got a private message
[10:47] <davies> BillGGates: see private msg from ubotu
[10:47] <BillGGates> i just come here for help if anyone can help !
[10:47] <thanasi> !irc
[10:47] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[10:47] <jussi01> !ask | BillGGates
[10:47] <ubotu> BillGGates: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[10:47] <thanasi> hmm..
[10:47] <BillGGates> ok deal
[10:48] <habdel> kdm crashes when using wine's applications !! o.O any idea !!
[10:48] <jared> buy a new computer
[10:49] <BillGGates> Ok if any1 can help please,,,, I am having trouble with "nspluginviewer" i just installed Kubuntu and the flash player thingi doesnt work... i would like to dload the plugin some how but it doesnt seem to work very well !
[10:49] <ere4si> that's not helpful jared - ask on #winehq habdel
[10:50] <jussi01> !flash | BillGGates
[10:50] <ubotu> BillGGates: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:50] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[10:50] <habdel> ere4si: then should I also report gnome issue to #gnome
[10:50] <habdel> o.O .. it is not wine's specific
[10:51] <Jimche> ok thanks Ubotu ill give it a go... cheers
[10:51] <ere4si> have you tried fsck habbdel? - some more info might help :)
[10:51] <gladier> question - download manager with gui that will prompt for username and password and store it in a "wallet" (doesnt have to be the kde wallet) and will automatically add files to a queue without asking where to download etc etc etc ...
[10:52] <jared> jim, ubotu is a robot, lol
[10:52] <jared> jimche, ubotu is a robot, lol
[10:52] <habdel> ere4si: I can use kde without a problem, but whenever I try to run a wine's application, the X Server crashes. Also, I can login to gnome using metacity but I can using openbox and window manager
[10:53] <jared> any1 kno how to get the mouse emulator working/
[10:53] <gladier> habdel: are you using any unstable repos?
[10:53] <jussi01> !thanks | Jimche
[10:53] <ubotu> Jimche: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[10:53] <jared> lol
[10:53] <habdel> gladier: no, it is gutsy. The last thing that I have tried to install is kde4
[10:54] <jared> theres ur problem
[10:54] <ere4si> habdel: done any updates lately? - they can make it necessary to reinstall your vid drivers
[10:54] <gladier> habdel: which howto did you follow?
[10:54] <matts> hey...so what is going on in here<
[10:55] <Jimche> Ok now umm it says stuff about Ubuntu... does it matter that i am using Kubuntu ? it says that i should dload the appropriate software such as "feisty fawn, edgy and drake something" ????
[10:55] <habdel> ere4si: yes, I have but I don't remember xorg-related packages being updated, gladier using the one on kubuntu.org
[10:55] <gladier> link?
[10:56] <gladier> you tried reverting from nvidia/nv/ati/flgrx to vesa?
[10:56] <jared> any1 kno how to get the mouse emulator working/
[10:56] <matisse> how do i check a gpg file hash ?
[10:56] <habdel> gladier: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php , no I haven't since kde is working fine
[10:56] <jared> any1 kno how to get the mouse emulator working?
[10:56] <ere4si> check xorg for changes - happens sometimes
[10:57] <habdel> gladier: the current .xsession-errors file contains http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53536/
[10:57] <gladier> habdel: how did you use that link to install kde4?
[10:58] <jared> any1 kno how to get the mouse emulator working?
[10:58] <jared> !nickspam | jimche
[10:58] <ubotu> jimche: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #kubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also /msg ubotu Guidelines
[10:58] <habdel> gladier: I have added, the ppa's repo. then installed kde4-core
[10:58] <gladier> gah .. kde4-core will pull a heap of other junk
[10:59] <Jimche> Jussi01 can i msg you please
[10:59] <jared> any1 kno how to get the mouse emulator working?
[11:00] <davies> jared: maybe #kde can help?
[11:00] <habdel> gladier: the strange thing is that gnome, and wine are the only one affected. the .xsession-errors file is not usefull
[11:00] <hola> im not able to share my ppp0 interface between host and client
[11:00] <jussi01> !pm | Jimche
[11:00] <ubotu> Jimche: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[11:00] <jussi01> Jimche: what do you need?
[11:00] <sonoftheclayr> Has anybody managed to successfully install Ruby on Rails?
[11:01] <gladier> habdel: start over what the problem is .... ive walked in halfway through the problem
[11:02] <Jimche> i am trying to dload the flash player thingy "gnome" or something and i dunno what im doing ;/
[11:02] <jared> the people st #kde got it working straght away
[11:02] <jared> noobs
[11:03] <habdel> gladier: ok, everytime I try to run any wine's application, X Server crashes. Also, when I try to login to gnome using metacity as window manager, X Server will crash also. However it doesn't crash if openbox is the window manager for gnome
[11:05] <smith_> habdel: other than looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old i'm not sure ther's much you can do
[11:05] <hola> im not able to share my ppp0 interface between host and client
[11:05] <gladier> habdel: tbh if it was me ... i would save a list of all the packages i have installed with dselect .. and blow away my installation and start from scratch
[11:06] <dazjorz> Hi
[11:06] <dazjorz> I just inserted the Kubuntu livecd to a computer to show Kubuntu to someone
[11:06] <dazjorz> and when initialising KDE, the screen blanked, and it's still black
[11:06] <dazjorz> is there anything I can do ?
[11:06] <habdel> gladier: just wanted to be sure that is hopeless before doing so.
[11:07] <smith_> hola: with no firewall you would 'echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward'
[11:07] <dazjorz> Oh, nevermind
[11:07] <gladier> no such thing as hopeless
[11:07] <gladier> just sometimes quicker to wipe :)
[11:07] <smith_> and 'iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -i ppp0 -j MASQUERADE'
[11:07] <Jimche> this linux feels hopeless for a noob like me
[11:07]  * habdel checking Xorg.0.log
[11:08] <jussi01> Jimche: flsh is broken atm. Its not our fault, its adobes.
[11:09] <hola> smith_: i 've a problem, even if i start the comunad eith sudo, it said: bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied
[11:09] <Jimche> ok whats the alternative ?
[11:09] <jussi01> Jimche: there is a way to install it maunally, but its a bit tricky.
[11:10] <Jimche> ah great there goes my chances.... im having trouble installing the basic stuff let allone the more difficult stuff
[11:10] <habdel> thanks, guys it seems to be nvidia's bug. I will try to recompile it from sources
[11:11] <dazjorz> another bug: you can't get to the storage area with the livecd
[11:11] <dazjorz> well, you can, but you need to use sudo
[11:11] <smith_> hola: try editing /etc/sysctl.conf    uncomment or put in 'net.ipv4.ip_forward=1'
[11:11] <dazjorz> in terminal, you can't get there with dolphin because of a HAL error
[11:11] <Jimche> Does every1 that has Linux have trouble using a flash player cause of Adobe ?
[11:11] <jussi01> Jimche: then the alternative is to wait. Im sorry.
[11:11] <smith_> then reboot
[11:11] <Jimche> thats cool thanks for your time anyway
[11:12] <jussi01> Jimche: wait a sec
[11:12] <smith_> Jimche: are you running hardy ?
[11:12] <Jimche> whats a "hardy''  ?
[11:13] <hola> smith_: i 've a problem, even if i start the comunad eith sudo, it said: bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied
[11:13] <jussi01> Jimche: never mind, your not
[11:13] <hola> smith_: i did what you suggested me, and now what i have to do?
[11:13] <jussi01> !hardy
[11:13] <ubotu> hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[11:13] <jussi01> Jimche: download this: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=53648&stc=1&d=1198033466
[11:13] <smith_> the lastest version of flash doesn't work with konqueror in hardy, its the alpha version
[11:14] <jussi01> smith_: flash is broken for all new installs atm.
[11:14] <Jimche> is it easy to do ? cause im very new at all this and i have not had very much luck with Linux thus far
[11:14] <ForgeAus> I didn't know flash worked in konqi at all, generally its firefox
[11:15] <jussi01> Jimche: I will walk you through it
[11:15] <Jimche> :D Cheers
[11:15] <smith_> hola: reboot if you've edited /etc/sysctl.conf
[11:16] <jussi01> Jimche: let me know when you have that downloaded
[11:16] <Jimche> It doesnt let me have permission to load the page unless i register
[11:16] <jussi01> Jimche: ok, register then.  :)
[11:16] <jussi01> (its free)
[11:17] <smith_> well, flash should work in kde since it's the default browser
[11:18] <smith_> i hope they've made fixing it up a top priority
[11:18] <jussi01> !flash > smith_
[11:18] <jussi01> smith_: go read the forum thread there
[11:18] <smith_> yeah, i know all that, I know
[11:19] <jussi01> smith_: read the thread. ggot all the info, including resoning for what they are doing.'
[11:20] <smith_> if you're desperate you can install an old version of flash
[11:21] <jussi01> Jimche: hows it going?
[11:21] <Jimche> almost there
[11:22] <jussi01> :)
[11:23] <Jimche> Im a bit slow off the mark but ill get there, i dont wanna go back to windows
[11:23] <jeremiah_> helo!
[11:23] <jussi01> Jimche: dont worry, we will get yu there. its all about attitude
[11:23] <jeremiah_> im new in kubuntu,i would really appreciate if someone cud help me
[11:24]  * Jimche dances
[11:25] <jeremiah_> how do i install my canon pixma printer?i don't have the driver for kubuntu only for windows
[11:26] <jeremiah_> help anyone?
[11:26] <jussi01> !printers
[11:26] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:26] <hola> smith_: ok but a question, why i was not able to do sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward?
[11:27] <magical_trevsky> hola, you can't use sudo with echo
[11:27] <magical_trevsky> hola, do "sudo bash", then run the echo command without sudo in front
[11:27] <Jimche> Ok Jussi01 i think i have downloaded it
[11:28] <jussi01> Jimche: ok, cool. now try double clicking it. (i assume its on your desktop)
[11:28] <hola> magical_trevsky: ok it works, may you explain me why?
[11:28] <jeremiah_> if you install kubuntu 7.10 dvd is it already kde 4.0?
[11:28] <jussi01> jeremiah_: no
[11:28] <magical_trevsky> hola, I think it's because echo is a built in function of the shell
[11:29] <jeremiah_> :( it still kde 3.5.8?
[11:30] <jussi01> !kde4 | jeremiah_
[11:30] <ubotu> jeremiah_: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[11:31] <hola> magical_trevsky: sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -i ppp0 -j MASQUERADE and it said that iptables v1.3.6: Can't use -i with POSTROUTING
[11:31] <jeremiah_> ok thnks,but when i tried to download install it,i got to versions of every applications of both 3.5.8 and 4.0
[11:32] <magical_trevsky> hola, take out the "-i ppp0" then :p
[11:32] <jeremiah_> i mean i got 2 versions of applications from 3.5.8 to 4.0
[11:33] <jussi01> jeremiah_: there is a kde4 live cd
[11:33] <jeremiah_> ok i'll download and try it
[11:33] <jussi01> Jimche: how did that go?
[11:33] <jeremiah_> thnks!
[11:35] <Jimche> umm im not too sure, the dialog box asked me if i wanted to install it and i clicked it and then another dialog box came up blank and i waited for a few minutes and then it disapeared.... ? did it work ?
[11:35] <jussi01> Jimche: yep, that worked. :)
[11:35] <jussi01> Jimche: now you need to install firefox
[11:35] <Jimche> ah ok
[11:36] <Jimche> do i dload it the normal way
[11:36] <jussi01> Jimche: go to system -> adept -> search for firefox
[11:36] <jussi01> Jimche: no, you should always look in adept for programs
[11:36] <Jimche> i think i like Linux
[11:36] <smith_> hola: my mistake should be -o
[11:36] <Jimche> ok ill do it no
[11:36] <Jimche> w
[11:38] <Jimche> i might be asking a dumb question but since i now use Kubuntu, does that mean i dont have the problems that i used to have with windows such as, computer crashing,viruses, spam stuff like that ?
[11:38] <jussi01> !virus | Jimche
[11:38] <ubotu> Jimche: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[11:38] <sigma_1234> how do i get my computer to shut down at 10pm every day?
[11:38] <Jimche> ?
[11:38] <hola> smith_: ok and now i can create a bridge and so vbox interface?
[11:39] <jussi01> Jimche: no virus's.
[11:39] <Jimche> ah ok
[11:39] <Jimche> !virus
[11:39] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[11:41] <magical_trevsky> sigma_1234, make a cron job for root that runs "shutdown -h now"
[11:41] <jussi01> Jimche: all ok?
[11:41] <Jimche> just cheking now
[11:41] <magical_trevsky> although that's probably not a very safe idea, if you screw up the syntax of the crontab
[11:41] <sigma_1234> how do i make a cron job?
[11:41] <jussi01> !cron | sigma_1234
[11:41] <ubotu> sigma_1234: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[11:42] <Jimche> YaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaY
[11:42]  * Jimche dances
[11:42] <jussi01> Jimche: :)
[11:42] <Jimche> Thanks HEAPS Juss
[11:42] <Jimche> Umm can i bug you more or should i come bak another time ?
[11:42] <jussi01> Jimche: what else do you need to know?
[11:42] <Jimche> im still trying to set up the computer
[11:42] <jussi01> Jimche: remember google is your friend also :)
[11:43] <bazhang> and ubuntuforums as well
[11:43] <magical_trevsky> jussi01, www.google.com/linux is a good way of finding things
[11:44] <Snew> google.com/linux helped me alot, too !
[11:44] <Jimche> Hmm ok... Linux recodnises my printer but when i print stuff its blank.... (cartridge you might say... i bought a new one and still no go) my gf conected her laptop which is running scummy windows and it works Fine !!! i tried it again and still to no avail. i tried changing the setting but again  :( no luck... any clues as to what i should do ?
[11:45] <jussi01> Jimche: printer type?
[11:45] <Jimche> Hp deskjet 3550
[11:45] <Lynoure> Jimche: If your printer has a test page button, try with that. If it prints blank too, it's 100% clearly a fault in the printer
[11:46] <sigma_1234> hp's shouldnt have issues
[11:46] <Jimche> Yes thats what i thought until my gf printed with her computer :/
[11:46] <Jimche> with no problems
[11:47] <magical_trevsky> Jimche, did you use the HPLIP toolbox to set it up?
[11:47] <magical_trevsky> (under system in the kmenu)
[11:47] <ibou> hi
[11:47] <Jimche> yes
[11:47] <Lynoure> Jimche: even though the pressing hardware button on your physical printer also results in an empty page? Weird.
[11:49] <Jimche> before i put linux on this computer i was running windows and it worked also, next day linux gets installed an no luck, i tried looking at that on the forums but i didnt think that it was aproblem that many had had
[11:49] <the-erm> Anyone know the name of the program that is similar to kdialog but written in gtk?
[11:50] <ere4si> the-erm, what does kdialog do again?
[11:51] <SSJ_GZ> the-erm: zenity
[11:51] <the-erm> ere4si: well you can do various inputs with it ... error message warning dialogs, yes/no radio buttons lots of stuff really.
[11:51] <sebastian^> good morning folks :)
[11:51] <the-erm> SSJ_GZ: that's it thanks.
[11:51] <SSJ_GZ> np
[11:51] <ere4si> the-erm,  I use zenity
[11:52] <the-erm> Is there program out there that you could use to a simple dialog ... but grouped like kdialog & zenity?
[11:52] <ere4si> the-erm, comes with ubuntu
[11:52] <the-erm> My simple project is taking on a life of it's own.
[11:52] <the-erm> oddly enough zenity isn't installed, but I know how to do that ;)
[11:53] <ere4si> the-erm, I used zenity  for a gui to mencoder - scales for file size and bitrate etc
[11:54] <the-erm> It would be kinda nice if their was a nice config too that sorta just spit stuff out into a config file ...
[11:54] <the-erm> oh well maybe I'll make one for a project.
[11:54] <Jimche> any clue Jussi   ?
[11:56] <ibou> how to add a new search engine in konqueror. Looks  like it wants a differen syntax for each engine
[11:58] <hola1> smith_: are you still there?
[12:05] <socother> did anyone of you have trouble accessing their windows partitions?
[12:07] <swatto> hi all
[12:07] <Ayabara> I have an asus laptop. In KMix I see 3 controls for output volume, PCM, Front and PC Speaker. The volume applet controls PC speaker even if my headphones are connected. I need to fix it so that I have only PCM and a Master Volume that controls headphones when they are connected and internal speakers else. This works in Ubuntu, but not in Kubuntu for me.
[12:07] <jussi01> Jimche: Sorry, I neeed to run. I have other presing things to do
[12:12] <hola2> jussi01: sorry a question. I made a bridge interface and so i removed it with ifconfig br0 donw but ppeconf still continuing to find it
[12:13] <swatto> anyone know any good websites for beginners in kubuntu?
[12:14] <Dioxin> Swatto : try the kunbuntu website... should be enough links from there
[12:14] <hola2> swatto:  http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions
[12:14] <sivaji> http://kubuntuguide.org/Gutsy
[12:14] <swatto> cheers guys :)
[12:14] <Dioxin> if that fails try googling it
[12:14] <sivaji> how to install new templates for openoffice presentation
[12:14] <lijin> hi
[12:15] <lijin> hello
[12:15] <swatto> cant believe i managed to get my WUSBGSv2 adapter working with it :D
[12:15] <swatto> hi
[12:15] <lijin> ć€§ćź¶ć„œ
[12:17] <swatto> im getting a unable to save bookmarks error though
[12:17] <hola2> I made a bridge interface and so i removed it with ifconfig br0 donw but ppeconf still continuing to find it
[12:18] <sigma_1234> how do i make a custom install cd of kubuntu? - with different apps and settings to the default version
[12:20] <sivaji> sigma_1234 so you are asking about creation new distro is it ?
[12:23] <sigma_1234> sivaji: yeah you could say that. but i want to build it on kubuntu
[12:23] <swatto> anyone know where i put codecs for kaffeine
[12:23] <sigma_1234> like how ubuntu studio is built on ubuntu
[12:25] <ere4si> sigma_1234, the server cd is cli only - from there you can install what  you like
[12:25] <bazhang> swatto: you installed kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[12:26] <sigma_1234> ere4si: how do i make the installer disc for it though
[12:26] <Ayabara> my laptop mediakey volume up seems to be bound to XF86AudioRaiseVolume, but it doesn't work properly. when I try to increase volume, an indicator pops up and says 11%, no matter how many times I press, and nothing happens in kmix
[12:27] <ere4si> sigma_1234, from the ubuntu homepage - you can download the iso then burn to disk
[12:28] <ere4si> !iso
[12:28] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type Â« sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> Â» - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[12:28] <ere4si> !burning
[12:28] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[12:29] <DFlame[Sleeps]> i think what he's getting at, is an option to preload a kubuntu disc with packages that would normally have to be downloaded post install
[12:29] <sigma_1234> ere4si: no i meant for the installer disc that i create
[12:31] <ere4si> sigma_1234, after you've installed what you want you want to make an installation cd - yes?
[12:32] <sigma_1234> yes DFlame thats what im trying to do. how do i do it?
[12:33] <sigma_1234> ere4si: yes thats what im trying to do
[12:33] <DFlame> I'm no expert, but you might find this a bit helpful, i cant guarantee it works on kubuntu though
[12:33] <DFlame> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-linux-mint-livecd-with-remastersys
[12:34] <DFlame> might also be of interest: http://lifehacker.com/software/featured-linux-download/roll-your-own-ubuntu-live-cd-with-reconstructor-276092.php
[12:35] <sigma_1234> yeah but are those livecds or also installer cds?
[12:35] <ere4si> sigma_1234: I've seen that  on google - mondo and mindi apps will let you back up your system "as is" and reinstall to any size partition
[12:35]  * Dr_willis agrees with ere4si
[12:35] <Dr_willis> Those 2 programs can be a bit picky to use. but they have a lot of power.
[12:35] <ere4si> can even repartition
[12:35] <Dr_willis> Im not sure how well they work with the UUID ussage in fstab and the menu.lst however.
[12:36] <ere4si> good enough for sun and ibm...
[12:36] <sigma_1234> what do you guys think was used to make ubuntu studio?
[12:37]  * Dr_willis wonders what ubuntu studio is.
[12:37] <ForgeAus> its a media edition isn't it?
[12:38] <ForgeAus> ubuntu + some media tools
[12:38] <Dr_willis> so they just added some packages, and perhaps a differnet repo or 2
[12:38] <ForgeAus> something like that
[12:38] <ForgeAus> added/removed/customized/modded a few packages
[12:39] <ForgeAus> nothign you couldn't just add on with APT and the correct repos
[12:39] <Jimche> Hey i am trying to dload Beryl cause i saw it on youtube and it looks mad.... when i try to dload it, it comes up with about 1000 diff things to dload "beryl-project.org/releases.php" thats the site please help
[12:39] <Dr_willis> You dont use Beryl any more.
[12:39] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[12:39] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:39] <Dr_willis> use compiz :)
[12:39] <Jimche> compiz ? whats the diff ?
[12:40] <Dr_willis> Beryl got merged into compiz-fussion
[12:40] <Jimche> ah ok
[12:40] <Jimche> is it easy to dload and install ?
[12:40] <Dr_willis> from what i gatehr beryl is dead
[12:40] <Dr_willis> Jimche,  read that web site just posted.. its trivial
[12:40] <Jimche> ah ok
[12:40] <Dr_willis> IF you got your 3d working rght for your video card..
[12:40] <Dr_willis> You do have an Nvidia video card? or what?
[12:41] <Jimche> i THINK i gotta 3d card but im not 100% sure
[12:41] <ere4si> sigma_1234, try this - http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-linux-mint-livecd-with-remastersys
[12:41] <Jimche> its an old computer with go fast bits from my old computer in melbourne (not allowed to have it here cause i got busted with porn too much)
[12:41] <Dr_willis> Im not sure ther even exists a mondern video card that cant do 3d. :) but a lot depends on what specific video card you have - as to how well Compiz will run
[12:42] <Dr_willis> Define 'old' :) I have some 20+ yr old computers. Heh
[12:42] <ere4si> geforce nvidia or greater for compiz from what I've read
[12:42] <Jimche> ummm my old computer which is much newer than this one is about 3 years old but it was like a Pent 4 900 bla bla and this one i am using is a pent 2 i think 600 or something
[12:43] <Jimche> i put in my video card with out my gf knowing about it
[12:43] <Jimche> i think its a nvida or something 3d card but how do i find out ?
[12:43] <ere4si> lspci
[12:43] <ForgeAus> hey that reconstructor things looks kewl :)
[12:43] <ForgeAus> nice one
[12:43] <Jimche> whats ispci  ?
[12:44] <Ayabara> anyone know what dcop stuff I need to control brightness?
[12:44] <jayrome> I am on Kubuntu 7.10 AMD64, how can I install Opera here?
[12:45] <hola> i'm created a br0 interface and after i removed it with "ifconfig br0 donw" but pppoeconf still continue to recognize it, why?
[12:46] <ere4si> Jimche, it is a command - lspci is LSPCI
[12:46] <ere4si> finds the pci cards
[12:46] <ForgeAus> Jayrome I think theres a repository for it
[12:47] <ForgeAus> (that you can add in your sources.list)
[12:47] <ForgeAus> but you'd need to find which one from google or something
[12:47] <ForgeAus> !Opera
[12:47] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[12:47] <ForgeAus> unless it tells you there
[12:48] <hola> k
[12:48] <hola> i'm created a br0 interface and after i removed it with "ifconfig br0 donw" but pppoeconf still continue to recognize it, why?
[12:49] <Ayabara> how do I change scren brightness in kubuntu?
[12:50] <Jimche> Ispci
[12:50] <Jimche> lol i thought something was gunna happen
[12:50]  * Jimche waits
[12:51] <Dr_willis> its L as in Lamma  lspci
[12:51] <Jimche> what does it do ?
[12:51] <Dr_willis> lists pci devices
[12:51] <Dr_willis> run it and see
[12:51] <ere4si> Jimche: you need to open konsole and type lspci - it starts with a L not i
[12:51] <Jimche> ahhhh
[12:51] <Dr_willis> Or just open up  your case and look at your video card.
[12:52] <Dr_willis> heck the post messages often say what video card is found.
[12:53] <Jimche> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (re                                                              v a1)
[12:53] <Jimche> is that the 3d 1 ?
[12:53] <Dr_willis> as i said earlier - I doubt if you could find a NON-3d card these days
[12:53] <Dr_willis> That card should work fine for you.
[12:53] <Dr_willis> install the nvidia drivers for it. then follow the !compiz url the bot gave to install compiz
[12:54] <adi> hallo
[12:54] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis: anything via, as i've found out :\
[12:54] <adi> was
[12:55] <Jimche> ok cool, i have dloaded Compiz via adept... do i need to reboot my computer or something ?
[12:55] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[12:55] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:55] <Dr_willis> read the docs there.
[12:55] <Jimche> ok
[12:58] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/ind
[12:58] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/ind
[12:58] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/ind
[12:58] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/ind
[12:58] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/
[12:58] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/
[12:58] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/
[12:58] <Dr_willis> gee the script kiddies are up early
[12:58] <Yosusin> http://bitxarraco.myminicity.es/ind
[13:01] <jayrome> ForgeAus: thanks, there is a section for 64-bit forced installations. Will try it and see if it works.
[13:01] <depp> hi there, does anybody know how to import either outlook or outlook express contacts to kontact?
[13:04] <Jimche> Dr willis
[13:04] <Jimche> i tried following the instructions for compiz but there comes up with an error... can i paste the error here ?
[13:04] <Wildcards> hello all
[13:05] <Dr_willis> !pastebin
[13:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[13:05] <vzduch> Dr_willis: it's 2 p.m. in Europe
[13:05] <vzduch> so 'early' doesn't fit in this case ;)
[13:06] <Dr_willis> its 8 am here. I just got off work. :) 3rd shift.
[13:07] <Jimche> Ok Dr willis i did it
[13:07]  * Wildcards would like a piece of help to make kdm to start at boot ....
[13:08] <Dr_willis> Wildcards,  did you disable it?   or is somthing else going on?
[13:08] <Dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure  kdm
[13:09] <Dr_willis> that should enable it.
[13:10] <Wildcards> I had made the upgrade some times ago to the hardy version with KDE4. all was fine, but yesterday, I figured out that kdm is no more launched at boot :(
[13:10] <hola> i'm created a br0 interface and after i removed it with "ifconfig br0 donw" but pppoeconf still continue to recognize it, why?
[13:11] <Wildcards> at boot, I come to the console, and can start it by hand with a nice "sudo kdm-kde4" without any problem ...
[13:12] <Wildcards> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm-kde4" does not solve it
[13:12] <vzduch> !hardy | Wildcards
[13:12] <ubotu> Wildcards: hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[13:12] <Dr_willis> The topic tells the kde4 kubuntu channel also. :)
[13:14] <Wildcards> lol sorry :-) do not seen it :-D
[13:15] <swatto> anyone know how i install gnome?
[13:15] <Dr_willis> install ubuntu-desktop package
[13:16] <TimS> Where is the hosts file on kubuntu?
[13:16] <Dr_willis> in /etc/
[13:16] <Dr_willis> same as every disrto ive ever seen. :)
[13:16] <TimS> Whats it called?
[13:16] <Dr_willis> hosts i think :)
[13:17] <TimS> Ah
[13:17] <Dr_willis> /etc/hosts
[13:17] <Dr_willis> Well hidden eh?  :P
[13:18] <TimS> Dr_willis: I was wondering what eDoney was and vistied the website, and thus my IP was logged.
[13:19] <TimS> So, I decided I should prevent myself from doing that in the future :P