[09:33] <wolverian> Amaranth, yes.
[09:33] <hondje> Forks are beautiful :-)
[09:33] <wolverian> Amaranth, I'm just interested in new interface design. I don't consider gnome2 broken.
[09:33] <doroto> i destroy all my data in windows and now i cannot use this linux either
[09:34] <Madpilot> Amaranth: could you take the Gnome-vs-KDE stuff to offtopic?
[09:34] <f_newton> magneto this is not a flame channel for kde
[09:34] <deFrysk> forks are nice but u have to know how to use the knife :)
[09:34] <hondje> lol
[09:34] <Amaranth> wolverian: And it'll still throw away a good portion of what we have now.
[09:34] <doroto> ok let me see
[09:34] <Linux_Galore> actually rather than say kde is better or worse than gnome or vice versa a more constructive view would be ..I would like kde or gnome to have "this" feature"
[09:34] <Amaranth> Madpilot: You mean forcefully move them?
[09:34] <Madpilot> doroto: start here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[09:34] <f_newton> doroto explore your drop down menus from the task bar
[09:34] <magneto> f_newton calm down im just jokin i dont care about KDE whatever works for you go for it
[09:34] <starseed> is there a good way to add more internet radio stations to Rhythmbox ?
[09:34] <wolverian> Amaranth, that might be necessary, yes. but if the interface can be improved enough to make it worthwhile.. I don't see a problem. well, besides all the work that has to be done.
[09:35] <f_newton> I use gnome magneto and I am not exited
[09:35] <Madpilot> Amaranth: whatever - it's just hard to keep up with the volume right now, and gnome-vs-kde is offtopic...
[09:35] <doroto> thank u guys
[09:35] <magneto> well maybe you should eat more fiber
[09:35] <Linux_Galore> Ive been using streamtuned for streaming net radio stations
[09:35] <wolverian> anyway, time to reboot breezy and see if my keyboard actually works again :)
[09:35] <f_newton> doroto are you getting acceptable help?
[09:35] <doroto> let me see whehter it works
[09:35] <Amaranth> If you want to talk about KDE join #kubuntu, if you want to talk about GNOME vs KDE join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:36] <Linux_Galore> very easy to use
[09:36] <doroto> sure
[09:36] <f_newton> doroto learn how to open a terminal window and use apt-get install (application)
[09:36] <doroto> but u don't know how little i know abt the linux
[09:36] <Amaranth> f_newton: If he has to open up a terminal we've failed. :/
[09:36] <doroto> hehe
[09:36] <Linux_Galore> I was wondering if there will ever be a Ubuntu-Embedded project
[09:36] <f_newton> Amaranth, failed in what way?
[09:37] <hondje> In liberating him
[09:37] <Linux_Galore> Gentoo has one
[09:37] <Amaranth> f_newton: Failed to make a distro regular people can use.
[09:37] <f_newton> he needs to learn to use command line from the beginning
[09:37] <hondje> Linux_Galore: buntu
[09:37] <f_newton> its not hard and I am a regular person?      what you think I got 3 arms or something?
[09:37] <highvoltage> f_newton: why!?
[09:37] <Madpilot> f_newton: not instantly, though. Synaptic really is easier...
[09:38] <magneto> they want it "user friendly"
[09:38] <f_newton> yes but he is going to have to search where in apt-get its just apt-get install blah blah
[09:38] <Linux_Galore> <-- has a Zaurus 6000 and wants to try ubuntu on it
[09:38] <Madpilot> magneto: "Linux For Human Beings", right?
[09:38] <Linux_Galore> its a PDA made by sharp that runs Linux, for those not initiated
[09:39] <doroto> cannot open those webs
[09:39] <doroto> why>
[09:39] <f_newton> but doroto then choose system/administration/synaptic and find totem-zine or something like that
[09:39] <doroto> i canot open some others
[09:39] <f_newton> from the drop down menu
[09:39] <magneto> How many nonhumans do you know that use Linux Madpilot?
[09:39] <Madpilot> magneto: not sure - are you human? ;)
[09:39] <f_newton> I know a couple that are human only just
[09:39] <highvoltage> a dog?
[09:39] <hondje> Yep! :)
[09:40] <magneto> I like that Ubuntu is for all flavors of user - from n00b to experienced
[09:40] <f_newton> if you put one hundred monkeys in front of one hundred keyboards you've got a windows users group
[09:40] <magneto> Madpilot: nope im 100% simian
[09:40] <Madpilot> magneto: "...for human being" vs "for power users"
[09:40] <Linux_Galore> lol
[09:40] <magneto> lmao
[09:40] <f_newton> thus the term  windows monkey
[09:40] <Linux_Galore> f_newton: thought that was the windows help line
[09:41] <Madpilot> doroto: those are just ordinary web links, they should work
[09:41] <f_newton> yeah well ok
[09:41] <f_newton> someone point doroto to the help files at the top of his taskbar... the life ring thingy
[09:42] <magneto> Madpilot: many power users love ubuntu
[09:42] <doroto> so i find the synaptic package manager
[09:42] <doroto> should i start there>'
[09:42] <Madpilot> magneto: sure, but the theory is that you don't *have* to be a power user to run Ubuntu
[09:42] <cledusddp> okay got the multiverse up.. search for the needed pack in synaptic and got nothing back.. Any ideas?
[09:43] <magneto> doroto is someone helping you?
[09:43] <Madpilot> doroto: yes, open Synaptic. when it asks for your password, type your user password
[09:43] <doroto> yes just now
[09:43] <magneto> Madpilot: I know that and I agree :)
[09:43] <Linux_Galore> Vista  = Vicious installing spaming trojon addaware OS
[09:43] <doroto> yes i have the password
[09:43] <cledusddp> <-trying to get Java support for Firefox :)
[09:43] <f_newton> doroto, you are going to have to take some initiative and learn some basic functionality... I strongly suggest you start with the help section and get a better understanding of the environment you are now using
[09:44] <doroto> all right  f_newton
[09:44] <doroto> i just wanna install a media player then i can learnt the whole staff while listening to muxtc
[09:44] <Madpilot> doroto: Ubuntu's help is in the System menu - Help - at the top of the screen
[09:44] <magneto> Vista - Virus Infection System - Template Alpha
[09:44] <cledusddp> Have done that.. and everything good so far.. But a search for the needed pack comes up empty
[09:44] <doroto> i see
[09:44] <cledusddp> so is that pack no longer avail?
[09:45] <Burgundavia> mabu, please turn that off
[09:45] <f_newton> lol doroto you need xmms and xmms-mp3
[09:45] <deFrysk> Virus Insertion System
[09:45] <doroto> what is it ?  lol  my god
[09:45] <Madpilot> cledusddp: you need repos - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:45] <Madpilot> hi Burgundavia
[09:45] <doroto> i thought i need to install the realplayer and then it will be ok
[09:46] <deFrysk> !mp3
[09:46] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[09:46] <Madpilot> doroto: not quite
[09:46] <cledusddp> done that Madpilot
[09:46] <doroto> so there is a lot to be done
[09:46] <doroto> leave this, friends
[09:46] <cledusddp> searching now in Synaptic for sun-j2re1.5
[09:46] <cledusddp> and get nothing
[09:46] <deFrysk> !java
[09:46] <ubotu> I heard java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[09:46] <doroto> tell me another question
[09:46] <Madpilot> cledusddp: just a sec
[09:46] <f_newton> doroto the thing is you are needing step by step instructions and that usually means that until you get a very basic understanding of what you want and how to go about finding out how to get there you are never going to succeed
[09:46] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, salut mon frere
[09:46] <Razor-X`> wow, this trip wasn't too bad after all ;)
[09:46] <cledusddp> no worries mad
[09:47] <doroto> ok, i c
[09:47] <magneto> cledusddp: add the backports
[09:47] <doroto> one more thing guys
[09:47] <cledusddp> backports?
[09:47] <magneto> cledusddp: to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:47] <doroto> last night , while installing this linux, i partetion mhy disks
[09:47] <Madpilot> magneto: thanks, I always forget the JRE isn't in the regular repos
[09:47] <f_newton> you are going to have to add repo functionality to your synaptic doroto  and there is a read me that tells you how ... does your firefox web browser work?
[09:47] <magneto> they have a good java package
[09:48] <Madpilot> !backports
[09:48] <ubotu> hmm... backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[09:48] <doroto> when i lock out, to start my widows, it failed
[09:48] <magneto> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[09:48] <cledusddp> thx guys, will give it a read
[09:48] <Razor-X`> doroto: you're sure Windows is available?
[09:48] <doroto> so, does it mean that all the date i have stored in windows, has been destroyed?
[09:48] <Razor-X`> !ubuntuguide
[09:48] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[09:48] <f_newton> thanks Razor-X beat me to it
[09:48] <magneto> cledusddp: read the sources section and you will not read much more
[09:49] <deFrysk> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ is not to be advised yes
[09:49] <f_newton> doroto dont know yet
[09:49] <cledusddp> stupid question.. extract it too?
[09:49] <doroto> it works
[09:49] <f_newton> once you learn a bit about what you are doing we can find out
[09:49] <doroto> the firefox
[09:49] <doroto> works
[09:49] <Madpilot> cledusddp: extract what?
[09:49] <cledusddp> what directory? or am I getting way lame with the questions here?
[09:49] <Razor-X`> doroto: what's the output of ``fdisk -l'' ?
[09:49] <traveller> is there a howto that says how to package a software into deb?
[09:50] <f_newton> Razor-X, that is waaaaaaaay above doroto 's head
[09:50] <cledusddp> ../ubuntu/dists/hoary-backports/multiverse/binary-i386
[09:50] <magneto> cledusddp: no not lame- just read that guide link and follow the instructions to update your sources
[09:50] <Razor-X`> f_newton: not if he puts it on pastebin for us to read ;)
[09:50] <atok> I have a problem, i hear only tam-tams - all the time?
[09:50] <doroto> haha
[09:50] <doroto> yes  well above my head
[09:50] <Razor-X`> doroto: pasted the output of ``fdisk -l'' on pastebin
[09:50] <f_newton> ok Razor-X you'll see
[09:50] <magneto> cledusddp: that will allow apt-get and synaptic to find a good java package for u
[09:50] <Razor-X`> atok: tam-tam?
[09:50] <magneto> and install it for u
[09:50] <doroto> thank you guys, anyway, i shall begin with the Help
[09:50] <atok> no others sounds
[09:51] <atok> only one looped
[09:51] <cledusddp> sweet, so on the right track.. just extract it to the the desktop?
[09:51] <Razor-X`> what's a tam-tam? *wonders*
[09:51] <magneto> cledusddp: nah thats a website
[09:51] <f_newton> oh crap its almost three am! what am I still doing up?
[09:51] <magneto> just read it
[09:51] <cledusddp> okay
[09:51] <magneto> cledusddp: you just need to add two lines to one texxt file
[09:51] <atok> i don't know this world in eng. --
[09:51] <doroto> you guys are so warm, i thought i wanted uninstall linux, but now i cahnge my mind
[09:52] <Madpilot> doroto: glad we're helping
[09:52] <deFrysk> man its hot here ;p
[09:52] <magneto> i can tell you how right now if you want but the guide will provide more info
[09:52] <jtgameover> does anyone know how to see the class and/or resource string of a window?
[09:52] <Razor-X`> magneto: like ubotu said above, the guide has become deprecated
[09:52] <cledusddp> think I got the wrong link.. Just pop that to me.. I can read it
[09:52] <doroto> i need your further help later
[09:52] <atok> I have problems with sound divice
[09:53] <atok> where can i find some help
[09:53] <Xyc0> Here
[09:53] <Razor-X`> atok: have you tried to ``killall esd'' beforehand?
[09:53] <magneto> Razor-X: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories is fine for what he needs
[09:53] <atok> :)
[09:53] <Razor-X`> Xyc0: where do you live? I want free wireless
[09:53] <Razor-X`> ;)
[09:53] <deFrysk> magneto, please dont refer to ubuntuguide.org
[09:53] <Xyc0> You have to earn it
[09:54] <Xyc0> My wireless sux anyways
[09:54] <cledusddp> magneto.. sorry to bug.. but can I have that link real quick from ya?
[09:54] <Razor-X`> Xyc0: i'll break into your WAP, but I still want it
[09:54] <Xyc0> It wont broadcast across my house, let alone next door
[09:54] <magneto> cledusddp: its the one I just posted - or add this to the bottom of /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:55] <magneto> cledusddp: ## Backports
[09:55] <magneto> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[09:55] <magneto> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[09:55] <Razor-X`> Xyc0: that's crappy :(
[09:55] <Xyc0> Linksys for you
[09:55] <deFrysk> magneto, those repos are not supported by ubuntu
[09:55] <Xyc0> anyone know anything about uncaping modems?
[09:55] <Razor-X`> I gave my neighbors free wireless for a while (monitored, of course), but I just got sick of it, after a while
[09:55] <magneto> then you show him how to add JAVA to firefox
[09:55] <f_newton> Xyc0, that trick really doesnt apply any more
[09:55] <Razor-X`> magneto: those are not the current backports mirrors
[09:56] <deFrysk> !java
[09:56] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[09:56] <Razor-X`> !backports
[09:56] <ubotu> I guess backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[09:56] <deFrysk> there magneto
[09:56] <Razor-X`> deFrysk: ;)
[09:56] <Madpilot> magneto & cledusddp: you want this one: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[09:56] <deFrysk> ^ Razor-X
[09:56] <Xyc0> how so f_newton?
[09:57] <magneto> when did this happen?
[09:57] <magneto> the top of the page reads Unofficial Ubuntu 5.04 Starter Guide
[09:57] <magneto> Revision: 4.17 (Last updated on 2nd August 2005)
[09:57] <Razor-X`> !ubuntuguide
[09:57] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[09:57] <f_newton> Xyc0, it is impracticle, dangerous, and illegal
[09:57] <Razor-X`> there's a good _reason_ for its deprecation
[09:58] <cledusddp>  thx
[09:58] <Xyc0> f_newton: It isn't against the law, it is against corporate policy.  There is a difference
[09:58] <atok> root@ubuntu:/home/atok # esd
[09:58] <atok> /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[09:59] <ferdi> does anybody have any idea to make ubuntu support legacy soundcards without recompiling kernel??
[09:59] <atok> what can i do with this ?
[09:59] <Razor-X`> atok: something is using the sound card
[09:59] <Madpilot> atok: "killall esd" if you want to stop esd
[09:59] <Razor-X`> ferdi: try a different set of sound drivers (like OSS)
[09:59] <f_newton> Xyc0, I suggest you bring that up to a lawyer
[09:59] <atok> root@ubuntu:/home/atok # killall asd
[09:59] <atok> asd: no process killed
[09:59] <Razor-X`> atok: esd, not asd
[09:59] <ferdi> what about alsa??
[09:59] <atok> :)
[10:00] <Razor-X`> ferdi: Ubuntu includes ALSA
[10:00] <atok> root@ubuntu:/home/atok # killall esd
[10:00] <atok> esd: no process killed
[10:00] <magneto> so hold up- is ubuntuguide.org deprecated or is it just not "ubuntu"
[10:00] <Razor-X`> magneto: it's deprecated
[10:00] <ferdi> so do i need to install alsaconf to configure the drivers??
[10:00] <Razor-X`> the Ubuntu wiki is not official ``ubuntu'' either
[10:00] <ferdi> is there any other way??
[10:01] <Razor-X`> ferdi: do you know if ALSA supports the drivers?
[10:01] <ferdi> does.....my card is opl3sa2
[10:01] <magneto> my bad I presumed to know the meaning of deprecated lol
[10:01] <Razor-X`> ferdi: then, try alsaconf
[10:01] <magneto> lmao
[10:01] <Razor-X`> magneto: ;)
[10:01] <doroto> is it possible to install the linux OS togeth with Windows OS in one pc?
[10:01] <ferdi> fine ;)
[10:01] <nightswim> yes
[10:01] <Razor-X`> doroto: very possible
[10:01] <atok> I hear drums all the time. im feeling sick of it ! :/
[10:02] <doroto> thanks
[10:02] <Razor-X`> atok: temporarily mute your alsamixer
[10:02] <magneto> what about the mirror for backports you posted -
[10:02] <atok> Razor-X: it works
[10:03] <deFrysk> doroto, yes, first install windowls and then linux-os
[10:03] <Razor-X`> atok: there, no more drums ;)
[10:03] <atok> only silence :D
[10:03] <Razor-X`> atok: meh ;)
[10:03] <deFrysk> doroto, make sure u have a partition for linux to use
[10:03] <Razor-X`> any idea which application caused the inccessant drum beats?
[10:04] <magneto> Madpilot: whats the deal with the backport mirror-
[10:04] <Razor-X`> doroto: or leave some free space for the Ubuntu installer
[10:04] <atok> Xes coused drums :D
[10:04] <Madpilot> magneto: it's official now, AFAIK
[10:04] <Madpilot> !backports
[10:04] <Razor-X`> atok: is it still running?
[10:04] <ubotu> it has been said that backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[10:04] <tha_gamemaster> there's no ubuntu for sparc huh? ^_^
[10:04] <atok> when volume = 0, i have some rest :D
[10:04] <Razor-X`> tha_gamemaster: not yet, I don't think
[10:04] <doroto> does windows have to come first
[10:04] <doroto> ?
[10:05] <Razor-X`> doroto: not neccessarily, but it's much easier for it to
[10:05] <magneto> LMAO is it the same project - converted or is it a different project with different packages ubotu?
[10:05] <tha_gamemaster> Razor-X, ok, now it's just a matter of choosing gentoo or debian for my sparc-lunchbox... decisions decisions
[10:05] <doroto> my windows has been removed last night when i install this linux
[10:05] <Razor-X`> tha_gamemaster: you got me there
[10:05] <Razor-X`> Debian vs. Gentoo is a crossroads I doubt i'll ever be able to cross ;)
[10:05] <tha_gamemaster> Razor-X`, hehe thanks for answering my question though ^_^
[10:05] <doroto> how do i avoid the destroy windows while partetion my disk?
[10:06] <doroto> u know it requires partetion while installing linux
[10:06] <six2one> be careful with the part table
[10:06] <deFrysk> doroto, make sure you have a partition left to use for linux or leave space to use linux
[10:07] <doroto> how?
[10:07] <doroto> originally my disk has four: C D E F
[10:07] <deFrysk> doroto, ever installed windows ?
[10:07] <doroto> yes
[10:07] <Madpilot> gah, it's 1am. I'm off to sleep - see you all later
[10:07] <deFrysk> c= /dev/hda1
[10:07] <magneto> might Madpilot
[10:07] <deFrysk> d=/dev/hda2
[10:07] <magneto> night
[10:07] <deFrysk> if you have a ide disc that is
[10:07] <deFrysk> etc
[10:08] <doroto> if i have lost all my data under windows OS,  it is not a big thing that i can partetion my disk time over time
[10:08] <magneto> is there an official hoary-extras repo?
[10:08] <deFrysk> doroto, yust leave space for linux (unpartitionded and the linux installer wil ask u if it has to install lunux on empty space
[10:09] <starseed> ugh, really wish azureus wouldn't use 100megs of ram
[10:09] <deFrysk> doroto, and make sure it is at least 10 gigs or so
[10:09] <doroto> ok
[10:09] <deFrysk> azureus = java-app = resource-hog
[10:10] <magneto> yuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk  azureus is the worst
[10:10] <magneto> screen + btlaunchmanycurses my friend
[10:11] <doroto> last night, when i partition, i choose the "erase the entire disk, 80gigs" sth like this
[10:11] <atok> Where can i find the list of soundcards working ubuntu ?
[10:12] <deFrysk> magneto, afaIk no hoary-extras repo
[10:12] <atok> *with ubuntu
[10:12] <doroto> so this means that all the original data i have stored has been erased forver?
[10:12] <doroto> no way to restore them?
[10:12] <Tomcat_> atok: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/
[10:12] <doroto> i have much private staff in windows
[10:12] <deFrysk> doroto, where did you install linux in
[10:13] <deFrysk> and did you install grub in mbr at the end of install ?
[10:13] <doroto> it told me #1 and #3
[10:14] <deFrysk> #1 = hda1 ?
[10:14] <doroto> what do you mean by that question?
[10:14] <doroto> hdd
[10:14] <ReleaseX> when i start tuxracer from a terminal the sound works fine, but when i use a menu icon i just made there is no sound, anyone know what i might be doing wrong
[10:14] <blakamin> lusers
[10:14] <blakamin> 8-D
[10:15] <doroto> forget it, i will try to find a way out
[10:15] <doroto> thank you all
[10:15] <deFrysk> doroto, windows is on hda1? prim master/c ?
[10:15] <doroto> yes
[10:15] <doroto> originally yes
[10:15] <deFrysk> then nothing is lost in windows
[10:15] <heien> Hi
[10:16] <doroto> really?
[10:16] <deFrysk> if linux is installed in hdd
[10:16] <deFrysk> its not no
[10:16] <bartekp> hi
[10:16] <f_newton> defrysk you running ubuntu now?
[10:16] <deFrysk> me ? yup
[10:16] <doroto> can i see the windows files in linux?
[10:16] <nightswim> yes
[10:16] <doroto> how?
[10:17] <deFrysk> !ntfs
[10:17] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[10:17] <heien> anyone here can tell me how to solder my headphones on a new jackstick?
[10:18] <heien> I have no idea where else to ask
[10:18] <deFrysk> heien, hardwarestore ?
[10:19] <heien> deFrysk, i have the parts, just how to put the wires together
[10:20] <jtgameover> is there a way to view the resource string of a window?
[10:20] <_4dz0> anyone recommend a decent java ide?
[10:21] <nightswim> eclipse?
[10:21] <f_newton> heien, tin the wires first and tin the joints,  use clips to hold the wire to the terminals and apply solder heat
[10:22] <f_newton> but headphones are cheap
[10:23] <evgenyserver> has anyone in here tried dc++ for ubuntu 5.04?
[10:23] <ferdi> how to compile mplayer??
[10:24] <deFrysk> ferdi, why compile ?
[10:24] <ferdi> yeah but many dependencies
[10:24] <f_newton> night
[10:24] <deFrysk> !mplayer
[10:24] <ubotu> [mplayer]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[10:25] <ferdi> somehow beats the shit out of me guys
[10:26] <deFrysk> ferdi, sudo apt-get install mplayer sould do it
[10:26] <ferdi> lets see;)
[10:27] <Razor-X`> I compiled my MPlayer, but I heard AAC is broken on some machines that use the binary
[10:29] <Razor-X`> and some codecs aren't included and such
[10:29] <kuku> how do i get sshd to work i noticed it doesnt come with stock ubuntu
[10:29] <kuku> apt-get install sshd didnt work either
[10:29] <BiSK-8> 'lo
[10:30] <BiSK-8> how do i put chans in ajoin aon xirc?
[10:30] <Razor-X`> kuku: search for OpenSSH
[10:30] <kuku> there is no ubuntu apt-get for openssh?
[10:30] <kuku> a .deb package
[10:30] <Razor-X`> kuku: there is, ``apt-cache search ssh'' ;)
[10:30] <ferdi> what's the command for gcc support??
[10:30] <Bubbling_Zombie> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27305.html <- try that kuku
[10:31] <Razor-X`> ferdi: ``sudo aptitude install build-essenstials''
[10:32] <asad2k5> Is it possible to setup 2 NIC cards to one ADSL connection i.e internet and will it increase band width
[10:32] <ferdi> thanks!!!
[10:32] <BiSK-8>  how can i put more than 1 channel in ajoin with?
[10:32] <BiSK-8> with xirc*
[10:33] <BiSK-8> sry, xchat
[10:34] <deFrysk> BiSK-8, /j #xchat
[10:34] <lurah> #channel,#channel2,#channel3
[10:34] <BiSK-8> ok
[10:34] <BiSK-8> thanks
[10:34] <highvoltage> hmmm. i'm dist-upgrading breezy and it seems to be in an infinate loop. upgrading all the packages over and over and over again. weird.
[10:36] <doroto> would you show me, what command shall i use in the terminal to install my downloaded realplayer?
[10:39] <redtech> night all
[10:39] <highvoltage> night redtech
[10:40] <render> I just ordered the ubuntu cd
[10:41] <render> how long will it delievered to China?
[10:43] <petti> alrighty.. time to test the new kernel... wish me luck :) ->
[10:47] <petti> hell, it worked :)
[10:48] <OculusAquilae> :-)
[10:48] <petti> I'm starting to like this thing
[10:49] <petti> especially after nearly pulling the rest of my hair off with fedora..
[10:49] <asad2k5> How to set up 2 network cards on one PC as DHCP
[10:51] <Pega> Hmm. I downloaded nethack with synpatic package manager. It SHOULD have come with also graphics (something to do with x11 I think) but every time I call for it in console it starts in the console with the basic ASCII graphics. Any suggestions how to start it normally?
[10:51] <petti> I thought ascii was normal for nethack..
[10:52] <Pega> petti, yeah, but some versions also have better graphics
[10:52] <petti> hm. dunno, never tried
[10:53] <petti> I mostly do Adom anyways, I've never missed graphics so far :)
[10:53] <Pega> :)
[10:54] <petti> I think that good ol' ascii is much better than grappy graphics anyways. Grahics can always be better and better, so you'll never be satisfied. Ascii is what it is
[10:54] <lurah> petti, im fan of ASCII :D
[10:54] <petti> actually I would like to see some 8-bit characters there ;)
[10:54] <lurah> =)
[10:55] <parabolize> render, no idea how long it takes to get to china. You could ask in #ubuntu-zh.
[10:55] <Pega> ASCII is nice, I admit, but I have tried it so many times. Would once like to try this thingie with normal graphics.
[10:55] <petti> I'm feeling upside down
[10:55] <cledusddp> hey all.. still trying to get java support with Firefox.. Think I'm missing something here
[10:56] <lurah> my thoughs about ASCII --> http://www.textworld.adaworld.com/articles/lurah1.html
[10:56] <lurah> :D
[10:56] <Pega> If I just knew how to change the friggin' controls here. Buttons for diffrent directions seem pretty random... :S
[10:57] <petti> I wonder if there is a nethack port for the playstation..
[10:58] <Pega> Well, install linux to PS2...
[10:58] <LinuxDolt> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check <-- wth?
[10:58] <petti> That would be an excellent reason to buy ps1 :)
[10:58] <cledusddp> and being that they are so cheap anyhow right?
[10:58] <Amaranth> Pega: nethack-gnome?
[10:58] <Amaranth> Pega: it's still all text based but it has a little GUI wrapper window
[10:59] <Pega> I installed Linux to my PS2.  But I've installed the needed repos's. found the sun file and what not.. But still no dice.. any ideas guys?
[10:59] <Amaranth> !java
[10:59] <ubotu> I guess java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[10:59] <Pega> Amaranth, oh.
[10:59] <cledusddp> have bsd on my xbox.. what a slug
[11:00] <Amaranth> wtf, who screwed the java wiki page?
[11:00] <Amaranth> it used to explain how to make your own package
[11:00] <Amaranth> now it links to the illegal hoary-extras repo
[11:00] <Pega> :S
[11:00] <cledusddp> thought there was something screwy thre amaranth
[11:01] <GrannyTux> look up unofficial ubuntu faq they have a step by step for the java install for firefox
[11:01] <cledusddp> I've tried every freakin thing and then some I could think of
[11:01] <topyli> Amaranth: someone thought it would be smart to cut some corners it seems
[11:01] <Amaranth> topyli: and remove much needed info from the wiki that can't be recovered
[11:01] <topyli> yeah
[11:01] <Amaranth> and they made Java15 a redirect to Java :/
[11:02] <topyli> "you only need my information. everybody else is wrong"
[11:02] <cledusddp> looking for JSE2 correct?
[11:03] <topyli> cledusddp: if you need the SE then you get it. most people only need j2re
[11:03] <cledusddp> was just a WAG topyli.. Learing as I go
[11:03] <learn25> hi all ;-)
[11:04] <GrannyTux> http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[11:04] <learn25> hello
[11:04] <Pega> 'lo learn25
[11:05] <topyli> cledusddp: that's the best way to learn :)
[11:05] <cledusddp> indeed.. still frustrated as all freakin get out.. lol
[11:05] <learn25> i have configured my posfix. I can send email to email addresses from yahoo and hotmail but it goes to their "Bulk" folder. Anybody can help?
[11:05] <magneto> cledusddp: that's the site i gave you the link to originally
[11:05] <magneto> lmao
[11:06] <cledusddp> root@shitbox:/home/cledusddp # apt-get install sun-j2rel.5
[11:06] <cledusddp> Reading package lists... Done
[11:06] <cledusddp> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:06] <cledusddp> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2rel.5
[11:06] <cledusddp> must not be getting something here.. Thinkin it's my dumbass :)
[11:06] <Amaranth> cledusddp: You need to have hoary-extras in your sources.list to do that.
[11:07] <topyli> learn25: many ISP's won't accept mail from servers with dynamic IP's (for a good reason). are you sending the mail directly from your server?
[11:07] <cledusddp> ah crap.. forgot about that.. so vi sources.list?
[11:07] <GrannyTux> ya you need the backport
[11:07] <magneto> yup
[11:07] <cledusddp> got the backport
[11:07] <learn25> i'm sending email from my server directly and I have a static IP. My domain is cea.wvcst.edu.ph
[11:07] <magneto> did you put the hoary-extras line in their too?
[11:07] <GrannyTux> the faq has the step by step for that too
[11:08] <topyli> learn25: hmm.
[11:08] <Amaranth> GrannyTux: hoary-backports and hoary-extras are not the same thing.
[11:08] <cledusddp> did. but must have mucked it up somewhere.. the freakin file is empty.. damnit
[11:08] <topyli> learn25: ok, then it's not what i thought
[11:08] <GrannyTux> oop typo
[11:08] <magneto> cledusddp: did you add one line or two to sources.list?
[11:08] <learn25> ic
[11:08] <cledusddp> 2 but didn't save.. so have to go back and do it again...
[11:08] <GrannyTux> half aslepp lol
[11:08] <cledusddp> thems the breaks I guess.. lol
[11:09] <Amaranth> if /etc/apt/sources.list is empty you're in trouble
[11:09] <Amaranth> err, wrong path
[11:09] <Amaranth> it's 4am :P
[11:09] <cledusddp> yup.. aware of that
[11:09] <magneto> nah at least there's no damn chorus of deprecated this time
[11:09] <learn25> topyli: Do you have a mail server?
[11:09] <Amaranth> oh, right path
[11:09] <topyli> learn25: yes, but i use my ISPs server as a smarthost, i don't send mail directly
[11:10] <learn25> i see. I can send mail directly and it reaches its destination like yahoo or hotmail but goes to the "bulk" folder ;-)
[11:11] <learn25> and also I cannot receive replies ;-(
[11:11] <topyli> learn25: with all the spam zombies around, some ISPs are careful with mail from random servers. your domain doesn't sound like any old "random server" though
[11:12] <learn25> mailserver is more compilcated than webserver ;-)
[11:12] <topyli> learn25: depends on how complicated you want to setup your web server =)
[11:12] <deathllama> anyone up for helping me out with some fluxbox menu config?
[11:13] <learn25> i'm a newbie to linux. I have a lot of things to learn ;-)
[11:13] <learn25> ic
[11:13] <learn25> how long have u been using linux?
[11:13] <learn25> i used linux for almost 3 months now
[11:13] <cledusddp> running flux.. what's the issue death?
[11:14] <topyli> learn25: i have no idea. since RH 5.0, perhaps 1997 or so
[11:14] <deathllama> menu setup. i'm in black right now, but is there a preset menu file i can d/l?
[11:14] <deathllama> setting up the menu is being a pain, and i'm a noob.
[11:14] <learn25> u have  a lot of experience than me =)
[11:14] <cledusddp> under ubuntu?
[11:14] <deathllama> yeah.
[11:15] <deathllama> fluxconf hasn't helped me, and fluxbox -generate_menu also hasn't worked for me.
[11:15] <cledusddp> don't know that is diffrent.. apt-get install fluxbox should have done it all for ya.. did you do a right click to get your menu?
[11:15] <topyli> learn25: well, i don't exactly miss the early days ;-)
[11:15] <deathllama> yeah, all i get is xterm, restart and exit
[11:15] <topyli> learn25: you don't want to setup RH 5 for desktop usage believe me :)
[11:15] <cledusddp> hmm.. that is diffrent..  But don't know why it didn't generate the menu for ya.. did you look at the faq on thier site?
[11:17] <cledusddp> pretty good info
[11:18] <magneto> deathllama -  there's an app out there to create menus - some scripts too if you cant figure out the xml - i use openbox and they are pretty similar
[11:18] <cledusddp> naw.. don't know.. but the few issues I had. I fixed with a bit o readin
[11:18] <deathllama> yeah, it told me to edit the /.fluxbox/menu file i wrote one for it, but it still doesn't work.
[11:18] <cledusddp> hmm.. mabye try a reinstall?
[11:19] <cledusddp> The first time I tried to get flux it crapped out.. Everything installed but had a blank screem
[11:19] <cledusddp> sreen
[11:19] <deathllama> maybe, i used synaptic to install flux
[11:19] <cledusddp> do it from cli
[11:19] <deathllama> can i hit that right from xterm?
[11:20] <cledusddp> yup..
[11:20] <cledusddp> apt-get install fluxbox
[11:21] <deathllama> it says fluxbox is already newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 installed, 0 removed, and 0 not upgraded
[11:21] <cledusddp> hmmm
[11:23] <deathllama> yeah
[11:23] <deathllama> it's frustrating.
[11:23] <cledusddp> agreed.. but that is part of the fun of linux :)
[11:23] <cledusddp> makes ya think :)
[11:23] <adrien> salut
[11:24] <deathllama> this is true
[11:24] <cledusddp> still having issues with java.. but will get it figured out
[11:24] <RuffianSoldier> ok...... first firefox says it saved my pics somewhere... i just went to look at them and they arent there... then i go back to save them again, and it locks up when i click save picture - then i try again and it exits firefox
[11:24] <deathllama> i could download the debian source tar, and try maybe installing it off of there.
[11:24] <adrien> y a-til quelqu'un qui parle franais?
[11:25] <cledusddp> yeah, you could.. but sounds like the long way around
[11:26] <deathllama> i mean, it's not a horrible deal having to xterm everything, but it will in time get annoying.
[11:26] <deathllama> hold on i'm gonna switch to gnome
[11:27] <catolh> Anyone else having trouble with gDesklets?
[11:27] <adrienux> salut
[11:28] <Tomcat_> catolh: Don't install the gdesklets-data package. Or is it something else?
[11:28] <wh0rd> How's it going.
[11:28] <catolh> i havent installed it
[11:28] <Tomcat_> catolh: Okay, what's wrong? :>
[11:28] <adrienux> y-a-til quelqu'un qui parle franais?
[11:28] <catolh> Tomcat_, i installed only the gdesklets package. And when i start it, the window just pops up.. showing nothing, not even a menu.. then it just quits
[11:29] <deathllama> okay.
[11:29] <deathllama> help is needed with fluxbox.
[11:30] <lurah> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54804
[11:30] <adrienux> je n'ai pas de son avec ma carte tuner tv...help me please
[11:31] <deathllama> anyone interested in assisting me with menu's in fluxbox?
[11:32] <catolh> Tomcat_, what i first did was install both packages.. (gdesklets + gdesklets_data), but then i removed both, and installed only the gdesklets package.
[11:32] <Kev0r> reallife is not a device
[11:33] <Tomcat_> catolh: Good. So what's wrong? :)
[11:33] <catolh> It wont run.. :p
[11:33] <catolh> it only shows a window with no contents
[11:33] <catolh> then it quits
[11:33] <Tomcat_> Mh...
[11:34] <Tomcat_> Do a reinstall of gdesklets then, and remove ~/.gdesklets
[11:34] <simonb> mv /home/$user /dev/life  permision denied heh
[11:34] <catolh> Tomcat_, ok, ill try that
[11:34] <magneto> anyone using a download manager? gwget is ok but keeps dying on 95% 90% for something im trying to download and aria sucks
[11:35] <Pega> WTF? This friggin nethack is mean! "A gush of water hits your left arm!  Your battle-axe rusts!" :((((
[11:35] <Tomcat_> Pega: That's life :D
[11:35] <catolh> Tomcat_, thanks.. it worked :)
[11:36] <topyli> Pega: you need to find another weapon pretty soon
[11:36] <Pega> yeah... I tried to pass that thing again thinking "now my character can watch out for that thing" but no... my b axe rusted even further
[11:37] <topyli> Pega: let's hope it's not cursed
[11:37] <plastic> i have just got one game and it's looks like blahblahblah.run how to install it? i tryed ./blah.run but says premision dinied... i try sudo ./blahblah.run but then- sudo: ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run: command not found so i don't get it... can enyone?
[11:38] <plastic> *anyone?
[11:38] <adrien-vs-linux> i have a problem with my tuner tv card!
[11:38] <lucas_> hi
[11:38] <adrien-vs-linux> hi
[11:39] <adrien-vs-linux> (i speak french...)
[11:39] <topyli> plastic: it's probably not executable. either chmod it to be executable, or use "sudo sh ./blah.run"
[11:40] <deathllama> who thinks they can help me out with a fluxbox problem
[11:41] <deathllama> Yeah, if anyone is available to share advice, that'd be great.
[11:41] <lurah> deathllama, i think no one here atm cant help you :(
[11:41] <plastic> topyli, yes you are right the chmod  +x helped... thx
[11:41] <simonb> brb just setup qingy on my hoary testing
[11:41] <deathllama> alright kids.
[11:41] <topyli> deathllama: it's impossible for anyone to know if they can help since you're not asking a question
[11:41] <Pega> deathllama, a few hours later might be better time to ask
[11:42] <deathllama> okay.
[11:42] <catolh> is there a good spot to get gdesklets? like starterbar and such? it seems their webpage is down
[11:43] <spanglesontoast> can i burn .bin and .cue files with k3b?
[11:43] <magneto> adreien je parle un peu  i have tv card problems in ubuntu too -
[11:44] <topyli> catolh: glesklets are in universe, you should just apt-get them
[11:44] <deFrysk> spanglesontoast, yes
[11:45] <adrien-vs-linux> how do we do to connect to the channel debian france? please
[11:45] <catolh> topyli, you mean the gdesklets app itself.. im talking about the actual desklets
[11:45] <deFrysk>  /j #debian-fr
[11:45] <adrien-vs-linux> thnaks :)
[11:45] <topyli> catolh: they're in the gdesklets-data package
[11:46] <spanglesontoast> ah
[11:46] <spanglesontoast> can you mount them
[11:46] <catolh> topyli, that one is broken?
[11:46] <Pega> For fucks' sake!  GG nethack. GG.
[11:46] <wh0rd> hey can someone tell me where is the best place to install real player and generally all other applications for all the users on my ubuntu
[11:47] <lucas_> Can I install a new kernel only with the install disc? I had to change my motherboard.
[11:47] <topyli> Pega: you can die from eating a regular food ration, anything might be poisonous
[11:47] <topyli> catolh: oh. then you need to file a bug
[11:47] <magneto> you shouldnt need a new kernel unless you have specially compiled drivers lucas
[11:47] <Pega> It wasn't poisonous.  In ubuntu MSN got disconnected all the time, but in windows I don't have this problem. I use WLAN..
[11:49] <magneto> lucas_: the kernel should have the modules you need to operate without too much issue unless you moved to a 64 board
[11:50] <lucas_> magneto: my asus A7V600-X broke and now I have a Asus A7V880, sempron
[11:50] <lucas_> magneto: when I start up I get a kernel panic...
[11:50] <topyli> learn25: i got mail :)
[11:50] <puskom_cari> I used a computer P II 200 MHZ with 128 MB RAM but after instalations my ubuntu run slowly (i'm a newbie)
[11:51] <lucas_> puskom_cari: do you use gnome/
[11:51] <puskom_cari> yes....
[11:51] <lucas_> puskom_cari: it need a litlle bit more than 200mhz
[11:52] <puskom_cari> o...i see
[11:53] <lucas_> puskom_cari: maybe you could use another windowmanager like xfce oder icewm
[11:54] <lucas_> puskom_cari: http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html
[11:54] <magneto> lucas_: when does it panic? what error is displayed? the A7v 600-x is that amd non-64 too?
[11:54] <adrien-vs-linux> i had a problem with my tuner tv card, i don't have sound...
[11:54] <adrien-vs-linux> i have*
[11:55] <puskom_cari> thanks.. Lucas
[11:55] <adrien-vs-linux> with the command dmesg | grep saa7134 i had: saa7134[0] /audio: audio carrier scan failed, using 5.500 MHz [last detected]
[11:55] <magneto> adrien: what program are you using? what type of card? is the sound module loaded for it? did you configure the sound in the module settings?
[11:56] <adrien-vs-linux> for watch tv i use tvtime
[11:56] <magneto> what card is it
[11:56] <adrien-vs-linux> Philips PAL/SECAM multi (FM1216ME MK3)) by saa7134
[11:56] <adrien-vs-linux> (sorry for my english...i'm french :d)
[11:57] <salutis> hello all
[11:57] <adrien-vs-linux> hi
[11:58] <magneto> aadrien hold on im looking OK?
[11:59] <adrien-vs-linux> what? wait a moment, i go take my dictionnary :d
[12:00] <magneto> adrien-vs-linux: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_saa7134
[12:01] <magneto> for translation - http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en
[12:01] <magneto> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=en%7Cfr&u=http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_saa7134&prev=/language_tools
[12:01] <adrien-vs-linux> ok, thanks :p i go to look that
[12:01] <magneto> adrien - use that
[12:02] <magneto> the last one is translated to francais
[12:02] <adrien-vs-linux> ok, thanks you very much :p
[12:02] <magneto> :)
[12:04] <iuliux> where does scrot keeps the screenshots?
[12:04] <Heijmen> sometimes when i exit the root terminal or synaptic i get and error message "child terminated with 209 status"... what does this mean and how can i fix this?
[12:05] <Mondoshawan> hi all
[12:05] <Amaranth> Heijmen: I get that too, it's nothing.
[12:05] <Heijmen> amaranth: okay, if you say so :)
[12:05] <magneto> adrien-vs-linux: les commandes ont t traduites galement  la page que je vous ai dirig vers, satisfont ainsi l'utilisation le premier lien j'ai signal pour voir les commandes appropries de dactylographier pour obtenir le bruit sur votre fonctionnement de carte.  Ces arrangements sont universels ainsi il ne devrait pas importer qu'il soit pour le gentoo.
[12:06] <Amaranth> magneto, adrien-vs-linux: #ubuntu-fr?
[12:06] <topyli> Heijmen: the child exits and nothing breaks. i don't care which its status is :)
[12:06] <adrien-vs-linux> yes, i know too :d
[12:07] <adrien-vs-linux> i was going ther but there are nobody for help me
[12:07] <magneto> i know but i dont speak french and no one is helping over there Amaranth
[12:07] <Mondoshawan> I have a USB Harddisk and i need to write a script where he mounts automaticly if the Harddisk is on my hotplug works fine the harddisk is always on /dev/sda1 but how can i check that this device is avaible?
[12:07] <Heijmen> topyli: hahahhaa, okay... i guess i'll just live with it then :)
[12:07] <Amaranth> magneto: Please take it to a PM then, this is an English channel.
[12:08] <Amaranth> Mondoshawan: gnome-volume-manager should be automounting this for you
[12:08] <Amaranth> Mondoshawan: after you plug it in check in /media
[12:08] <catolh> argh, for some reason my Starterbar wont allow me to add items to it.. :\
[12:08] <Mondoshawan> oh no i do not use gnome i use window maker
[12:08] <ironil> was
[12:08] <Amaranth> There is your problem. :)
[12:08] <ironil> was ist das hier
[12:09] <Amaranth> Mondoshawan: You need to interface with hal and figure out how to do the right thing. Or just run gnome-volume-manager and have it all work.
[12:09] <Amaranth> Mondoshawan: Do you know C?
[12:09] <ironil> was
[12:09] <Mondoshawan> ah ok thanks maybe i run the gnome-volume-manager in autostart of windowmaker
[12:09] <ironil> yes
[12:09] <ironil> ubuntu?
[12:10] <ironil> was ist das?
[12:10] <Mondoshawan> thanks!
[12:10] <ironil> bitte
[12:10] <topyli> ironil: join #ubuntu-de
[12:10] <Amaranth> ironil: #ubuntu-de? not sure what language you're speaking there :)
[12:10] <lucas_> magneto: pivot_root: No such file or directory
[12:10] <ironil> german
[12:11] <magneto> lucas_: are your drives in different order now?
[12:11] <lucas_> magneto: /sbin/init/: 428: can not open console on /dev/console:
[12:11] <lucas_> magneto: what do you mean, pci?
[12:11] <lucas_> magneto: yes
[12:12] <ironil> is it only in english here
[12:13] <ferdi> how to get all the missing libraries??
[12:13] <ferdi> it's hell of a task I guess!!
[12:14] <topyli> ferdi: and which libraries are you missing?
[12:15] <ferdi> gtk..xv...etc
[12:15] <ferdi> can't name them all
[12:15] <topyli> you just apt-get them
[12:15] <catolh> is there a "gdesklet-data" package for the 0.34 release?
[12:15] <magneto> lucas_: nah is hda still in the hda slot etc?
[12:15] <magneto> lucas_: did anything change besides the board? is everything else the same?
[12:16] <ferdi> says package not found
[12:16] <topyli> ferdi: you're not using correct package names. use apt-cache search to discover the names
[12:16] <lucas_> magneto: I have had to put the vga card on another slot
[12:16] <lucas_> magneto: and I don't have 2 cd drives anymore
[12:16] <ferdi> will do
[12:16] <udax> good mooorning
[12:17] <topyli> ferdi: what are you trying to do in the first place? build some GTK packages from sources?
[12:17] <brk3> hi. just wondering are there any plans to implement autopackage into the next ubuntu. because there definitly should be..
[12:17] <cmk> hi all
[12:17] <brk3> cmk: hi
[12:17] <Amaranth> brk3: autopackage will never be in Ubuntu by default
[12:17] <tony> hello
[12:18] <brk3> Amaranth: why
[12:18] <Amaranth> brk3: it's pure crack
[12:18] <tony> im just installing the ubuntu
[12:18] <brk3> Amaranth: ah come on. wtf
[12:18] <tony> im french
[12:18] <cmk> Just installing Ubuntu on my new pc :-) I have installed the base packages. While it boots the first time it stops at "Starting the hotplug system" - what did i wrong? :-)
[12:18] <Amaranth> brk3: Do not start this flamefest in the channel, we've already had it twice in the forums and once in bugzilla.
[12:18] <ferdi> yeah
[12:19] <brk3> Amaranth: happen to have a log of that?
[12:19] <topyli> brk3: autopackage won't integrate into our apt database for one thing
[12:19] <Amaranth> brk3: I'm just telling you what the developers have said.
[12:19] <udax> wher`re u from?
[12:19] <brk3> dcc me
[12:19] <Amaranth> I don't do DCC.
[12:19] <brk3> me?
[12:19] <magneto> lucas_: it can't find /dev/console something got screwed up - are you using sata whats your drive layout?
[12:19] <udax> to all
[12:20] <lucas_> magneto: hm, I use IDE
[12:20] <volvoguy> i'm back with nvidia driver questions. anyone wanna take a stab at it? the nvidia installer won't work because my compiler is gcc 4 and it's expecting 3.4. where can i change that environment variable/
[12:20] <android> how do I get the mplayer plugin for mozilla work? The movies loads, but I only got a black screen in the movie window when loading is done..
[12:21] <cmk> volvoguy maybe you could try gcc_select 3.4 or something like that
[12:21] <brk3> volvoguy: could you not just install gcc3.4
[12:21] <topyli> volvoguy: install 3.4
[12:22] <volvoguy> i installed it, but apparently there's an environment variable set somewhere that still says to use 4.0
[12:22] <Amaranth> volvoguy: that'd be /usr/bin/gcc
[12:22] <volvoguy> i don't know if i need to change something on my system, or in the files from nvidia.
[12:23] <Amaranth> volvoguy: /usr/bin/gcc is a symlink
[12:23] <magneto> lucas_: your grub is hosed
[12:23] <brk3> volvoguy: most likely your system
[12:23] <volvoguy> Amaranth, so just change the symlink to the one i need for the nvidia installer?
[12:24] <magneto> lucas_: do you have the ubuntu install disc or another disc which will allow you to access your drives and run cfdisk?
[12:24] <Amaranth> volvoguy: yeah, change it to point to /usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[12:24] <volvoguy> Amaranth, okey dokey. thanks. i may be back. :)
[12:26] <volvoguy> k. changed. going to test it and need to exit x. wish me luck.
[12:28] <brk3> can i just get the main reason for no autopackage? cause i think its the best thin to happen to linux
[12:30] <deFrysk> brk3, imagine a not autopackage needs a dep wich it cannot find cos its related to a not autopackage page and an autopackage is instaled instead
[12:30] <deFrysk> brk3, know what i mean ;p ?
[12:31] <brk3> ah
[12:31] <brk3> ya that is a problem
[12:31] <brk3> ya
[12:31] <deFrysk> brk3, an average user should always stick to the distro-packages
[12:32] <brk3> deFrysk: ya guess you're right
[12:32] <brk3> the reps work well i guess
[12:32] <gorilla_> I need automake 1.5 built for ubuntu hoary, what is the best way to get an package for this? backport??
[12:33] <magneto> gorilla_: i have backports and extras and no automake1.5
[12:33] <magneto> gorilla_: it goes 1.4 1.6 up to 1.9
[12:35] <brk3> so whats the general realease time for the next ubuntu?
[12:35] <gorilla_> magneto: 1.6 would be fine... Should I add the backport repository or just download the package manually??
[12:35] <deFrysk> oct
[12:35] <deFrysk> oct and april are the release dates
[12:35] <brk3> cool
[12:36] <magneto> gorilla_: it should be in your regular repos already
[12:36] <deFrysk> 04.10 05.4 05.10 06.4 etc etc
[12:37] <gorilla_> magneto, oh.. so it is.. I was apt-get install automake... thanks for the help.
[12:38] <magneto> gorilla_: no prob good luck
[12:41] <emperon> Hello i am experiencing some problems with my wireless connection
[12:43] <magneto> emperon: what kind of problems?
[12:44] <emperon> Although   "iwlist eht1 scanning" shows the wireless connection is still valid
[12:44] <emperon> I can not ping anywhere. And this happens occasionally. I mean i have my wireless connection working right now.
[12:45] <magneto> what kind of wireless card?
[12:45] <emperon> But when i am idle and get back 1h later. I saw my connection is gone
[12:45] <magneto> intel?
[12:45] <emperon> when i ping anywhere or router i get "Destination host is not reachable"
[12:45] <magneto> i have that problem with a usb wireless adapter and i used to have it with my laptop
[12:45] <emperon> Well, I am using HP compaq nx7010 laptop. And the card is integrated
[12:45] <magneto> what wireless card is it
[12:46] <magneto> :)
[12:46] <magneto> lsmod
[12:46] <magneto> lsmod | grep 2200
[12:46] <emperon> When i reboot, the problem is being sold
[12:46] <brk3> whats the best kind of laptop to use with ubuntu
[12:46] <magneto> yeah im tryin to see what card you have
[12:47] <emperon> ipw2200                66156  0
[12:47] <emperon> firmware_class          9728  1 ipw2200
[12:47] <emperon> ieee80211              21252  1 ipw2200
[12:47] <magneto> :)
[12:47] <emperon> How can i fix it ?
[12:47] <magneto> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623
[12:47] <magneto> you need to update the driver to the latest
[12:48] <magneto> i had that problem too
[12:48] <cmk> re
[12:48] <emperon> ok, but please note that my wireless connection is mostly working, it is just gone ocassionally. I am forwarding to the link given
[12:48] <parabolize> brk3, www.linux-laptop.net/ also http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux_laptops.html
[12:48] <magneto> this laptop im on now has the same intel bw2200
[12:48] <magneto> yes emperoni
[12:48] <brk3> parabolize: thanks
[12:49] <magneto> emperon - or you can use a lil script to rmmod ipw2200 and then modprobe ipw2200 etc
[12:49] <magneto> i made a restart script until i learned the new driver fixed it- you need 1.9
[12:50] <magneto> i had 1.6 and had the same issues
[12:50] <magneto> the old intel drivers for windows have a similar issue
[12:51] <emperon> magneto, which way is more smarter and stable ?
[12:51] <topyli> anyone gotten beagle to index xchat logs?
[12:53] <topyli> here's another: anyone know how to make xchat write a different log for each session
[12:53] <topyli> i guess i could use a wrapper script for the latter
[12:54] <magneto> update the driver because you wont have the problem anymore- but if it isnt convenient because of the learning curve then i'd just use a lil script and put it on the gnome-panel or in your menu
[12:54] <magneto> i just dropped this in a file called wlrestart  - #wireless restart script version .01a
[12:54] <magneto> rmmod ipw2200
[12:54] <magneto> modprobe ipw2200
[12:54] <emperon> i c
[12:54] <magneto> i like it better now because if I leave my laptop on and im downloading something etc i know the wireless link wont die
[12:54] <emperon> technically why does it die now ?
[12:55] <Tomcat_> emperon: When is it dying? Just when downloading stuff, but not at regular surfing?
[12:55] <magneto> it dies because of a glitch in the driver
[12:56] <Tomcat_> magneto: Yeah I was going for that one. ;)
[12:56] <magneto> that glitch is addressed in the newer driver for it
[12:56] <Tomcat_> magneto: The last I heard is that it's still in 1.0.6.
[12:56] <emperon> Tomcat_, it dies when i am idle for some time
[12:56] <Tomcat_> Mh, weird.
[12:56] <Tomcat_> The bug I had was when transferring much data from SMB networks... then it usually broke. That's a known bug.
[12:57] <Tomcat_> emperon: What version of the driver are you using?
[12:57] <emperon> secondly, is there a smart way for hibernate and suspend for my laptop ?
[12:57] <emperon> Tomcat_, dunno
[12:57] <Tomcat_> emperon: If you never changed it manually, you got 0.19... that should be good.
[12:57] <magneto> my bad i had 0.19 and the newer is 1.06
[12:57] <Tomcat_> emperon: Hibernate should be in the logout menu... try if it works.
[12:57] <Tomcat_> emperon: You can enable suspend in a config file.
[12:58] <magneto> it has all the details in the link i posted emperon - tomcat youre right
[12:58] <Tomcat_> I'm on 1.0.0 now and like it... though it's not very good with the wireless button and the LED. :I
[12:58] <emperon> Suppose that i want the comp to hibernate when i close the lid
[12:58] <adrien-vs-linux> magneto: when i do  make modules modules_install i had:   CHK     include/linux/version.h
[12:58] <adrien-vs-linux> make[1] : *** Pas de rgle pour fabriquer la cible  init/main.o , ncessaire pour  init/built-in.o . Arrt.
[12:58] <adrien-vs-linux> make: *** [init]  Erreur 2
[12:58] <Garf> in gnome, how do I force a window to stay minimized and not show up in the window list?
[12:58] <adrien-vs-linux> what do?
[12:59] <Tomcat_> emperon: Can you use the console well? There are files in /etc/acpi and /etc/acpi/events that you can change to hibernate on lid close.
[12:59] <magneto> :) dont know adrien
[12:59] <crashd> ahh, that's where the acpi stuff is
[12:59] <crashd> ive been looking for that fora  day or so ;)
[12:59] <edie> how can i be sure that my MM codecs have been installed?
[12:59] <emperon> Tomcat_, yeah i can use
[01:00] <Tomcat_> emperon: You need to create a script similar to /etc/acpi/lid.sh that will call /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh on lid close...
[01:00] <Tomcat_> emperon: But I doubt it will automatically get up again on lid open.
[01:00] <emperon> Tomcat_, and can i adjust the usual power managment settings. Such as when i am idle for 30 min. it should hibernate or so ?
[01:00] <magneto> Tomcat_: I just found out there were newer drivers last week so im happy with anything - dont know how i ended up with 0.19 - i think it was there in hoary from the beginning
[01:00] <pakYAN> hello everybody
[01:01] <Tomcat_> emperon: There might be apps for that... no idea, I like the defaults. :)
[01:01] <pakYAN> how to config ubuntu display resolution
[01:01] <deFrysk> Garf, move it to another workspace
[01:01] <Tomcat_> magneto: Yeah, 0.19 is the default... I've gone to 1.0.0, but it's basically the same - same features, same stability. I can't really suggest the newer version at the moment...
[01:01] <pakYAN> my system only display 640x480
[01:01] <edie> pakyan : ctrl +alt "+"
[01:02] <magneto> i can i have been using it without error
[01:02] <edie> pakyan : or  ctrl +alt "-"
[01:02] <edie> how can i be sure that my MM codecs have been installed?
[01:02] <pakYAN> ok. i'll try
[01:02] <Tomcat_> magneto: Yeah, it really depends on the usage. :)
[01:02] <pakYAN> do you know default root password
[01:02] <emperon> Now i have an interesting issue. I am clicking Home folder from the menu. It says home folder is starting and it dies
[01:03] <magneto> people on the ubuntu forums seem ok with it too
[01:03] <Tomcat_> !tell pakYAN abour rootsudo
[01:03] <Tomcat_> o_O
[01:03] <Tomcat_> !tell pakYAN about rootsudo
[01:03] <Celiun> newbie question: Anyone know how to mount an hdd in linux? Using Ubuntu 5.04 LiveCD, and I'm trying to back up some stuff before I move over to an install
[01:03] <pakYAN> :)
[01:03] <deFrysk> !tell pakYAN about sudo
[01:03] <thenuke> Celiun: yup, with mount command :)
[01:04] <Tomcat_> deFrysk: Did that ;)
[01:04] <deFrysk> !sudo
[01:04] <ubotu> sudo is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:04] <deFrysk> ;p
[01:04] <emperon> Hey I can't browse to anywhere
[01:04] <Celiun> ok
[01:04] <Celiun> just need to figure out the devices then...
[01:04] <thenuke> Celiun: fdisk -l lists them for you
[01:05] <emperon> Natilus is not working
[01:05] <thenuke> Celiun: oh, and you need to be root to list them. so you could do sudo fdisk -l
[01:05] <Celiun> thanks, just the command I was looking for
[01:05] <thenuke> mount obviously needs sudo too
[01:05] <Celiun> I have a root console open :p
[01:05] <pakYAN> i cant config bluetooth
[01:05] <pakYAN> :)
[01:05] <thenuke> righto
[01:05] <edie> how can i be sure that my MM codecs have been installed?
[01:06] <pakYAN> where i can download bluez
[01:06] <Celiun> used linux before, but i never really got the hang of bash
[01:06] <Celiun> or mounting
[01:06] <thenuke> Celiun: ok. you just need to use it to learn it as far as you need to ;)
[01:06] <magneto> edie: what type of codecs? MM? multimedia?
[01:06] <thenuke> Celiun: little by little I have learned new tricks
[01:06] <Determinist> hey guys, how can i find out which clearlooks version i am using?
[01:06] <emperon> Tomcat_, i can't browse to anywhere should i ctrl alt backspace ?
[01:07] <Determinist> which one comes by default with hoary?
[01:07] <Tomcat_> emperon: Why can't you browse anywhere?
[01:07] <Tomcat_> emperon: ctrl-alt-backspace won't fix that anyway.
[01:07] <Celiun> yeah, mostly why I decided to switch to Debian... or Ubuntu :p
[01:08] <emperon> i don't know, never happened before. I just installed the linux headers. And now when i click home folder or any other place from the menu, it says starting ... and it dies
[01:08] <pakYAN> ubuntu have bluez package ready to install?
[01:08] <edie> magneto : yes
[01:08] <Toma-> if i want to add a vfat partition to fstab and have it accesable and mountable by all users, the type is vfat, and the options are user,umask=0000 right?
[01:08] <edie> i have followed the instructions ont the guide (ubuntu)
[01:09] <Tomcat_> Toma-: Sounds good.
[01:09] <magneto> edie: ls /usr/local/lib/codecs i think that is the directory they are in-  are they not working?
[01:09] <Toma-> Tomcat_, it dont work :( cant execute
[01:09] <magneto> xine mplayer totem?
[01:09] <Tomcat_> Toma-: Error messages?
[01:09] <Toma-> bash: ./glx: Permission denied
[01:09] <Toma-> thats all
[01:09] <Toma-> being vfat, it doesnt have permissions, so i dunno whats goin on :/
[01:10] <magneto> edie: you tryin to watch a movie with which program?
[01:10] <edie> magneto: ifd try to open an mp3 file it gives a codec error.but i did what i could do.
[01:10] <bimberi> Determinist: dpkg -l gtk2-engines-clearlooks
[01:10] <magneto> edie: did you install mp3 support?
[01:10] <kemik> Toma-:  see what "ls -lha" gives.. if its +x or not etc
[01:10] <Ipdog> mp3?
[01:10] <Toma-> ...vfat?
[01:11] <edie> you meanrepositories?
[01:11] <Toma-> its all executable
[01:11] <pakYAN> nobody can help me to config bluetooth :(
[01:11] <edie> you mean repositories?
[01:11] <Determinist> bimberi, thank you
[01:11] <bimberi> Determinist: yw :)
[01:11] <Determinist> :D
[01:12] <Determinist> bimberi, any idea on how i would be able to upgrade clearlooks 0.5 to 0.6? :)
[01:12] <Ipdog> bluetooth?
[01:12] <pakYAN> yess ipdog
[01:12] <edie> magneto:i installed somethings, as i told i followed the instrutions on the ubuntu guide..
[01:12] <kemik> Toma-:  can you do "sudo glx" ?
[01:12] <magneto> edie: hold up
[01:12] <pakYAN> bluetooth not redtooth :))
[01:13] <edie> magneto:Ok.
[01:13] <bimberi> Determinist: I think there's a newer version in backports
[01:13] <bimberi> !backports
[01:13] <ubotu> [backports]  .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[01:13] <Toma-> yeh :/
[01:13] <magneto> edie: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22646&highlight=mp3+support
[01:13] <pakYAN> !bluetooth
[01:13] <ubotu> pakYAN: No idea
[01:13] <pakYAN> :(
[01:13] <highvoltage> hi. i need to provide someone a gpg-signed ssh public key. the gpg-signed part i more or less have down now, but i haven't used (purposely) used ssh keys before.
[01:13] <Toma-> ok, i tried defaults,user and now it executes, but cant write
[01:14] <pakYAN> !irda
[01:14] <ubotu> pakYAN: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:14] <pakYAN> :(
[01:14] <highvoltage> i did a ssh-keygen -t dsa, so what exactly is it that I need ot sign?
[01:14] <Tomcat_> highvoltage: Best to do a Google search... there are millions of howtos for ssh keys.
[01:14] <Ipdog> what is redtooth ?
[01:14] <pakYAN> !gprs
[01:14] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, pakYAN
[01:14] <Tomcat_> highvoltage: You need to sign the public key... never give out the private key that ssh generates.
[01:14] <edie> i have problem with mounting win partitions also, again i tryed to do it using the guide, bu i coudnot do it:(
[01:14] <Toma-> also with rw, i have no write
[01:14] <pakYAN> redtooth = Irda
[01:15] <highvoltage> Tomcat_: ok. i was hoping for some real person help ;) thanks anyway.
[01:15] <pakYAN> :)
[01:15] <kemik> !tell edie about ntfs
[01:15] <Tomcat_> highvoltage: Well you can wait if somebody answers... I don't know the exact procedures, I'd have to look them up as well. :)
[01:15] <highvoltage> Tomcat_: that's why i wanted to ask here instead, just so that i don't accidentally screw it up
[01:15] <magneto> edie: libmad is the package that contains the mp3 support
[01:15] <kemik> Toma-:  sounds really weird
[01:15] <highvoltage> Tomcat_: ok :)
[01:15] <Toma-> yeh i know.
[01:15] <pakYAN> !cdma
[01:15] <ubotu> pakYAN: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:15] <Tomcat_> highvoltage: afaik ssh-keygen generates a private/public keypair in ~/.ssh, and you need to give the public key to the other person.
[01:15] <Toma-> used to work on fedora :/ has ubuntu got some weird su thing going on?
[01:16] <edie> its FAT
[01:16] <thenuke> Toma-: no weird things :) pretty normal su things
[01:16] <Tomcat_> Toma-: Ubuntu uses sudo instead of su.
[01:16] <Toma-> rightio
[01:16] <highvoltage> ok. seems to be id_dsa.pub. thanks.
[01:16] <Tomcat_> highvoltage: Yeah.
[01:16] <edie> i editted the fstab file, as i want to mount my hd's
[01:16] <Tomcat_> highvoltage: Just sign the key and send it to anyone...
[01:16] <pakYAN> !lcd
[01:16] <ubotu> pakYAN: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:17] <edie> but the folders i created seems to be empty.
[01:17] <kemik> edie:  please read that page ubotu gave you
[01:17] <pakYAN> hemm
[01:17] <Tomcat_> highvoltage: If you put the private key in some file in ~/.ssh, the people with the public key will have access to the box.
[01:17] <Determinist> bimberi, what's backports? some unsupported update repo?
[01:17] <pakYAN> !connect with bluetooth
[01:17] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, pakYAN
[01:17] <magneto> ntfs write?
[01:17] <kemik> magneto:  not recommended
[01:17] <Tomcat_> highvoltage: Eh.. no, the public key needs to be in some file. :)
[01:18] <edie> kemik : why?
[01:18] <bimberi> Determinist: No, there is an official backports repository (although you should only enable it for an install, not for upgrades)
[01:18] <kemik> edie:  because it will help you?!
[01:18] <magneto> kemik: i know - i was asking if thats what he was trying to get
[01:18] <bimberi> !backports
[01:18] <ubotu> from memory, backports is .. The Official Backports project has now officially been launched! deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[01:18] <kemik> edie: # This utility searches for available HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions, creates
[01:18] <kemik> # mount points for them and adds them to /etc/fstab
[01:18] <kemik> edie:  now do as you're told
[01:18] <magneto> edie: its not safe
[01:18] <pakYAN> !snmp
[01:18] <ubotu> pakYAN: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:18] <Toma-> ok, it executes but i get the standard error for writing... touch: cannot touch `woot': Permission denied
[01:19] <pakYAN> !qmail
[01:19] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, pakYAN
[01:19] <Toma-> thats with just defaults as the option
[01:19] <Determinist> bimberi, thank you again :)
[01:19] <bimberi> Determinist: if you add that deb line (in ubotu's post above) to your sources.list - that enables backports
[01:19] <kemik> Toma-:  remove defaults as option ?
[01:19] <Toma-> perms are normal on the /dev entry
[01:19] <Determinist> bimberi, already done
[01:19] <Toma-> ok...
[01:19] <pakYAN> !dpkg
[01:19] <ubotu> methinks dpkg is Debian Package Manager: sudo dpkg --install package.deb
[01:19] <Celiun> wait a sec
[01:19] <Celiun> Ubuntu can't read NTFS?
[01:20] <Tomcat_> Celiun: It can.
[01:20] <magneto> yes it can
[01:20] <bimberi> Celiun: yes it can
[01:20] <pakYAN> !reiserfs
[01:20] <ubotu> pakYAN: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:20] <Celiun> ok
[01:20] <pakYAN> hemm
[01:20] <Celiun> just checking
[01:20] <magneto> you need the module Celium
[01:20] <edie> magneto:why it is not safe? whou should i listen to?
[01:20] <Celiun> oh?
[01:20] <Toma-> no love kemik :(
[01:21] <kemik> edie:  writing to NTFS partitions is not safe.. but you're mounting a FAT partition right?
[01:21] <magneto> edie: google ntfs support in linux
[01:21] <pakYAN> !jakarta
[01:21] <ubotu> pakYAN: No idea
[01:21] <pakYAN> !java
[01:21] <ubotu> hmm... java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[01:21] <kemik> edie:  and have you read that link and ran the program!?
[01:21] <edie> yes i tryed to mount a FAT parti.
[01:21] <Toma-> ill ty again later. thanks kemik, Tomcat_
[01:21] <Celiun> fortunally, I just need to read from it, not write
[01:21] <edie> ok, i am tryin...
[01:21] <kr> when i use amule, i get warning i have a lowid, why is that and how can i adjust it, im using firewall
[01:21] <Celiun> back to mounting
[01:22] <kemik> !tell Celiun about ntfs
[01:22] <pakYAN> !rc.local
[01:22] <ubotu> No idea, pakYAN
[01:22] <Celiun> thanks kemik, don't need it yet though... just doing some back ups
[01:23] <kemik> Celiun:  np.. just bookmark it for later then ;)
[01:23] <magneto> Celiun: make sure you have ntfsprogs not sure if it is instaledby default
[01:23] <pakYAN> where i can put rc.local?
[01:23] <kemik> magneto:  what are you raving on about? =)
[01:23] <catolh> Is anyone else having trouble with xcompmgr? When i enable it everything gets all screwy.. :\  here's a screenshot: http://home.no.net/catolh/Screenshot.png
[01:24] <kr> can anybody help me whit amule
[01:24] <Tomcat_> catolh: Never had that, but xcompmgr is known to be buggy.
[01:24] <Tomcat_> kr: Just ask what you want to know.
[01:24] <Tempsu> !UCR7KASSEMBLY
[01:24] <ubotu> Tempsu: I give up, what is it?
[01:24] <Tomcat_> kr: There's also #amule
[01:24] <shinu> how can i update my kernel?
[01:24] <catolh> Tomcat_, bah... the only way to get gdesklets transparent is to use xcompmgr right?.. :\
[01:24] <selinium> Hi all, after reinstalling Hoary my printer will only print a t low res. Any ideas?
[01:25] <Tomcat_> catolh: Well you can use fake transparency... I'm happy with that, as the gdesklets don't move anyway.
[01:25] <catolh> Tomcat_, how?.. :o
[01:25] <shinu> apt-get upgrade linux-kernel?
[01:25] <kemik> selinium:  sure you're using the correct printerdrivers?
[01:25] <Tomcat_> catolh: But yes, real transparency only with xcompmgr.
[01:25] <Celiun> magneto, how might i be able to check if it's installed, also, i'm using the LiveCD version of Ubuntu
[01:25] <Tomcat_> catolh: It's on by default...
[01:25] <kr> i get a lowid, and wondere how to change that
[01:26] <Tomcat_> kr: Open your firewall... and try reconnecting to different servers, some are bad.
[01:26] <catolh> Tomcat_, hm..weird.. its not on here.. its a black square around the gdesklets
[01:26] <Tomcat_> catolh: http://w3studi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/~breiersn/Screenshot.png
[01:26] <Tomcat_> catolh: Well if you disable xcompmgr you need to disable the translucency in gdesklets...
[01:26] <Tomcat_> catolh: Then it'll look like on my screenshot.
[01:26] <catolh> ah
[01:27] <catolh> thanks.. :)
[01:27] <selinium> kemik: pretty sure, In the print settings i have chosen my printer and the GIMP-PRINT driver.
[01:27] <Tomcat_> catolh: If you disable xcompmgr and have translucency in gdesklets enabled it will have a border. :)
[01:27] <kr> i dot know how to use the firewall either, just installed firestarter and started it, and did not add anything
[01:27] <edie> magneto: thank you for the link. its really useful link.
[01:28] <kemik> selinium:  i was thinking if CUPS is using the rght driver ?
[01:28] <Tomcat_> kr: I don't know how to use firestarter... but you need to open the TCP port and optionally the UDP port that aMule uses, or you'll always get a LowID.
[01:28] <kr> ok thank you my friend, i will try that
[01:28] <selinium> kemik: How do you mean? :)
[01:29] <Tomcat_> kr: You could ask in #amule, maybe somebody there knows how to do that in firestarter.
[01:29] <Celiun> hm... already mounted...
[01:29] <kemik> selinium:  Common UNIX Printing System <- it's where the stuff is sent before it's sent to your printer
[01:30] <kr> ok thank you,
[01:30] <hobojoe> hi, I have connected two machines to an Active Directory domain using winbind. Both machines have samba shares, but I cant figure out to authenticate against the other machine in order to browse its shares
[01:31] <selinium> kemik: How do I check?
[01:31] <magneto> Celiun: just try to mount it    mount -t ntfs //dev/hda somedir/
[01:31] <magneto> replace hda with the drive and partition u are tryin to mount
[01:32] <shinu> if i apt-get upgrade linux-image-2.6.11-1-386 and it doesnt work well, can i somehow use the previous kernel?
[01:32] <Celiun> Says it's already mounted, just trying to figure out where
[01:32] <shinu> like... is it still in the grub menu?
[01:32] <Whitesocks> Hi people.. im not sure i understand the output of the size command on a executable. Anyone awake and willing to answer some questions for me? I know its not ubuntu specific though... :)
[01:32] <hobojoe> Celiun, type mount
[01:32] <emperon> magneto, ??
[01:33] <magneto> emperon:
[01:33] <emperon> i need help
[01:33] <emperon> i was proceeding the wireless how to
[01:33] <magneto> Celiun: type cfdisk and see which partition is ntfs if you arent sure - is that the one mounted?
[01:33] <emperon> how ever after writing sudo sh remove-old
[01:33] <magneto> yes
[01:33] <magneto> it wouldnt remove
[01:34] <emperon> and i got error from the make
[01:34] <Kate> hello
[01:34] <edie> magneto: thank you for the link. its really useful link.
[01:34] <magneto> emperon: it wont make until the old files are gone go to the directory
[01:34] <gorilla_> I'm trying to compile plib, and getting an error checking for C compiler default output file name... "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables". what packages do i need to install for the  C/C++ devel stuff?
[01:34] <emperon> when i make it re asks to remove some stuff and what ever i say it gives  out and error. Further more, my wireless connection has gone off totally
[01:34] <Celiun> magneto, can't open them with cfdisk, oddly enough
[01:34] <magneto> edie: your welcome - it makes life easy
[01:34] <Goek> how do i play fmp4 video?
[01:34] <emperon> magneto, which files i should delete ?
[01:34] <gorilla_> hello Kate :-)
[01:35] <magneto> emperon: i know hold on ill tell ya :)
[01:35] <emperon> k
[01:35] <Goek> i've tried with all of my mediaplayers and they refuse to show video - only audio
[01:35] <magneto> Celiun: sudo cfdisk
[01:35] <Goek> i have all the codecs provided by synaptic
[01:35] <kemik> Celiun:  "df -lha"
[01:35] <edie> kemik: can you send me again the link you told me, i quit  the chat program unwillingly.
[01:35] <kemik> !tell edie about ntfs
[01:35] <Whitesocks> I would basicly like to know how the size command knows where the executable command will be loaded into memory... or does it show relative addresses in virtual memory that later gets translated to real memory by the MMU?
[01:35] <Celiun> magneto, only finds the cd
[01:35] <edie> my hd's are not NTFS...
[01:36] <kemik> edie:  it detects FAT too
[01:36] <magneto> Celiun: sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb
[01:36] <edie> ok..
[01:36] <selinium> kemik: How do I check? If CUPS is using the right driver?
[01:36] <kemik> edie:  please read what it says
[01:36] <magneto> Celiun: sudo cfdisk /dev/hdc
[01:36] <magneto> Celiun: sudo cfdisk /dev/hdd
[01:36] <emperon> Goek,  http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[01:36] <Kate> I'm quite a newbie with linux, and I've recently got an internal modem, 56k that claims to be linux compatible. However, the instructions dont work
[01:36] <Kate> something to do with the wrong kernel or something
[01:36] <edie> ok, i am reading
[01:36] <Celiun> bingo
[01:36] <kemik> selinium:  you have to connect to the cups server
[01:37] <kemik> Celiun:  df -lha will list all devices and where tehy are mounted
[01:37] <Celiun> yeah
[01:37] <Celiun> like mount -l
[01:37] <gehel2> Whitesocks, it probably shows addresses in VM. In a modern OS, there almost no other usefull addresses ...
[01:37] <Celiun> anyways, found them now, going to write them down
[01:37] <selinium> kemik: I am sorry, but how do you go about that?
[01:37] <kemik> selinium:  i dont remember exactly which port it is running on
[01:37] <Kate> oh the driver im talking about
[01:38] <kemik> selinium:  hold on
[01:38] <kemik> !cups
[01:38] <ubotu> kemik: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:38] <Celiun> thanks guys, think I can work it out now
[01:38] <magneto> emperon:
[01:38] <magneto> Celiun: cool
[01:38] <edie> kemik: it seems to be script file, i thought that it is a program should be set up:) so how can i use that script?
[01:39] <emperon> magneto, listening
[01:40] <emperon> magneto,
[01:40] <kemik> edie:  it says how in the comments, so just read it and follow the instructions and you'll be fine :)
[01:40] <gehel2> Whitesocks, after a look at the man page, it looks like it show addresses in the object file itself, which are of course exactly the same as VM addresses
[01:40] <magneto> emperon: sorry /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/net/ieee80211/
[01:40] <emperon> magneto, is this the file i should remove ?
[01:41] <emperon> magneto, is this the direcotry i should remove ?
[01:41] <Celiun> ...
[01:41] <edie> kemik: ok, sorry:)
[01:41] <magneto> go into that directory and copy the contents to another location - then delete everything in there- make sure you unloaded your wireless modules - which means dont do it if you are using wireless now and havent downloaded the other stuff u need from that post you were readaing
[01:41] <kemik> selinium:  try connecting to <IP_ADDRESS>:631 in firefox
[01:42] <emperon> magneto, no such directory
[01:42] <Celiun> ok, apparently I forgot what FAT32 is called in linux
[01:42] <emperon> i have the 2.6.10-5....
[01:42] <kemik> selinium:  "http://localhost:631" or "http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631"
[01:42] <Celiun> because it just pops up the help
[01:42] <emperon> but no net directory in it
[01:42] <kemik> Celiun:  vfat ?
[01:42] <Celiun> vfat? thanks
[01:42] <Celiun> that worked
[01:42] <Celiun> finally
[01:43] <kemik> :)
[01:43] <Celiun> thanks kemik
[01:43] <kemik> np
[01:43] <emperon> magneto, got that ?
[01:43] <kemik> selinium:  still with us ?
[01:44] <magneto> no net directory?
[01:44] <Celiun> bah, apparently I don't have the module for reading NTFS
[01:44] <emperon> magneto,
[01:45] <Celiun> oh well, managed to mount them
[01:45] <theine> How do I get from X to the console under Breezy? <CTRL>+<ALT>+<F1>,... doesn't work
[01:45] <kemik> Celiun:  module ?
[01:45] <kemik> !tell Celiun about ntfs
[01:45] <magneto> emperon; tryin to find the right directory for u
[01:45] <Amaranth> theine: reinstall xkbutils and xkeyboard-config and that'll work again
[01:45] <kemik> Celiun:  tried that script ? should autodetect and mount your stuff and put it in fstab
[01:46] <Celiun> I'll try
[01:46] <learn25> Hi all.
[01:46] <Kate> hi
[01:46] <theine> Amaranth, ah, thanks again
[01:46] <learn25> How to check if port 25 is blocked by my ISP?
[01:46] <gorilla_> I'm trying to compile plib, and getting an error checking for C compiler default output file name... "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables". what packages do i need to install for the  C/C++ devel stuff?
[01:46] <johnnybezak> hey guys is breezy ok to use atm?
[01:47] <magneto> emperon: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/net/ieee80211
[01:47] <kemik> learn25:  telnet it, or portscan
[01:47] <learn25> how?
[01:47] <nomis_> johnnybezak, the topic says no ;)
[01:47] <learn25> is there a site that will port scan?
[01:47] <Whitesocks> grc.com is good
[01:47] <magneto> emperon: you arent using the wireless now are u?
[01:47] <vader1102> learn25: no
[01:47] <emperon> magneto, i can't
[01:47] <thenuke> vader1102: there is.
[01:47] <gehel2> learn25, if you give me your IP I can do it for you
[01:47] <learn25> so how
[01:48] <learn25> ok
[01:48] <emperon> magneto, i'll paste the contents to
[01:48] <johnnybezak> nomis_: no it doesnt haha it says have a question just ask :P
[01:48] <learn25> <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:48] <Whitesocks> grc.com will portscan
[01:48] <thenuke> learn25: google for portscan
[01:48] <magneto> emperon: are you using the wireless card now?
[01:48] <emperon> emperon, no, and i can't
[01:48] <vader1102> thenuke: according to the caption when you join iit isn't
[01:48] <learn25> ok
[01:48] <johnnybezak> nomis: i just want a new kernel, because the ndis drivers seem to be making my system a bit buggy
[01:48] <emperon> magneto, no and i can't
[01:48] <magneto> emperon: ok
[01:49] <gehel2> learn25, I get a connection refused, so either it is blocked by your ISP or your FW or you have nothing listening on that port
[01:49] <magneto> emperon: just makin sure in case you hadnt unloaded the driver
[01:49] <emperon> magneto, take a look at this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/985
[01:49] <thenuke> vader1102: what?
[01:49] <Kate> can anyone help me?
[01:49] <topyli> learn25: perhaps ubuntu's postfix is only listening on localhost
[01:49] <topyli> by default
[01:49] <emperon> magneto, no net directory
[01:49] <nomis_> johnnybezak, continue reading the topic. you re on the right way :P ... did you try the 2.6.11 kernel from ubuntu ?
[01:49] <learn25> so how to enable postfix to listen to port 25?
[01:50] <Celiun> !tell Celiun about ntfs
[01:50] <thenuke> learn25: by googling for "ubuntu postfix"
[01:50] <magneto> emperon: locate ieee         and look for a folder in /lib/modules/ named ieee80211
[01:51] <learn25> anyone knows how to configure postfix to listen on port 25?
[01:51] <gehel2> learn25, "netstat -lpn | grep 25" will tell you if it is already listening
[01:51] <topyli> learn25: in /etc/postfix/main.cf i have "inet_interfaces = loopback-only"
[01:51] <thenuke> it does not listen outworld by default
[01:51] <Raptoid> selamlar..
[01:52] <gehel2> goodbye all ...
[01:52] <emperon> magneto, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/986
[01:52] <learn25> here's the message
[01:53] <learn25> learn25@wvcstecemicrolabserver:~$ sudo netstat -lpn | grep 25
[01:53] <learn25> Password:
[01:53] <learn25> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:25            <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN     7207/master
[01:53] <learn25> tcp6       0      0 ::1:25                  :::*                    LISTEN     7207/master
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     11886    7598/gam_server     @/tmp/fam-learn25-unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     11616    7586/gconfd-2       /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1da2-0-117362fd237f2
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     11626    7535/x-session-mana /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1d6f-0-77697f8e43e7d
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     11831    7593/bonobo-activat /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1da9-0-4b3d59cd5aa2d
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     11851    7595/gnome-settings /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1dab-0-63e8f9a5362e4
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     11994    7632/metacity       /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1dd0-0-5c8eaf8230f88
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     12026    7640/gnome-panel    /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1dd8-0-36af25b1bf3c8
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     12043    7644/gnome-volume-m /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1ddc-0-36af25b01b4c0
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     12067    7642/nautilus       /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1dda-0-60e820fb5a451
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     12086    7650/update-notifie /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1de2-0-60e820fba658c
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     12112    7652/gnome-cups-ico /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1de4-0-60e820fbf0a51
[01:53] <emperon> learn25,  use paste.ubuntulinux.nl!
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     12153    7658/gnome-vfs-daem /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1dea-0-6e88b904d494b
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     12166    7664/trashapplet    /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1df0-0-26e8ba1be5428
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     12194    7662/wnck-applet    /tmp/orbit-learn25/linc-1dee-0-13ad1f1d42adc
[01:53] <learn25> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     12253    7671/mapping-daemon /tmp
[01:53] <topyli> please stop
[01:53] <learn25> is my postfix listen on port 25?
[01:53] <thenuke> argh :D
[01:54] <thenuke> learn25: why dont you do what I told you to.
[01:54] <thenuke> learn25: google for "ubuntu postfix"
[01:54] <Amaranth> Please do not do that again.
[01:54] <emperon> magneto, what say you ?
[01:54] <learn25> some told me to use that command to check. sorry for the long message.
[01:54] <Celiun> ... is there a default root password for the LiveCD?
[01:54] <elmago> he guys one short question
[01:54] <magneto> emperon: did you install the kernel headers?
[01:54] <Celiun> and if so, what is it? -_-
[01:54] <emperon> emperon, oh yeah
[01:55] <magneto> :)
[01:55] <Crane> hello
[01:55] <magneto> im like WTF?//
[01:55] <elmago> can someone tell me where i get the 2.6.11 kernel for ubuntu?
[01:55] <magneto> lol
[01:55] <emperon> i mean i have run this "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" successfully
[01:55] <emperon> if you mean the above
[01:55] <topyli> learn25: paste those into #flood or paste.ubuntulinux.nl, never in the channel
[01:55] <magneto> sudo apt-get update
[01:55] <magneto> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:55] <magneto> sudo apt-get install gcc
[01:55] <magneto> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:55] <magneto> ?
[01:56] <emperon> magneto, i have already done the previous ones earlier
[01:56] <learn25> ic. sorry for that ;-(
[01:56] <elmago> can someone tell me where i get the 2.6.11 kernel for ubuntu?
[01:56] <Crane> elmago, if it is not in repositories you will have to download and compile it from another source
[01:57] <Crane> kernel.org
[01:57] <elmago> thx
[01:57] <Amaranth> elmago: you have to build your own
[01:57] <elmago> ok
[01:57] <Amaranth> elmago: any reason you need 2.6.11?
[01:57] <emperon> magneto, is the situation getting hopeless ?
[01:57] <elmago> i want to install the ati driver but on their hp they only have drivers for the 2.6.11 kernel
[01:57] <emperon> hold o
[01:58] <emperon> n
[01:58] <Amaranth> elmago: ubuntu comes with the ati driver
[01:58] <elmago> really
[01:58] <magneto> emperon: naw not hopeless
[01:58] <Amaranth> !info fglrx
[01:58] <elmago> one moment
[01:58] <Amaranth> !info xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:58] <ubotu> xorg-driver-fglrx: (Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators), section restricted/misc, is optional. Version: 6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11 (hoary), Packaged size: 3110 kB, Installed size: 9940 kB
[01:59] <nooneyouknow> does anyone know if the current breezy upgrade is working?
[01:59] <emperon> magneto, check out this. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/987 . this is the error i am getting
[01:59] <elmago> i get : event not found
[01:59] <Amaranth> ?
[01:59] <Amaranth> elmago: you need to install this package
[01:59] <elmago> ok
[01:59] <Amaranth> and configure xorg to use the driver
[02:00] <edie> kemik: cok saol.
[02:00] <Amaranth> !ati
[02:00] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:00] <elmago> thx alot for the moment
[02:00] <magneto> emperon: cmon man ----------------- it was right there
[02:00] <emperon> magneto, oh yeah found the dr
[02:00] <magneto> emperon: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build/include/config/ieee80211
[02:00] <edie> kemik: thanx
[02:00] <magneto> lol
[02:01] <emperon> magneto, ok, but why locate is failed. cause of the updatedb ?
[02:01] <Amaranth> elmago: that wiki link should give you all the info you need
[02:01] <magneto> emperon: yup
[02:01] <magneto> emperon: but the path was there from when you first ran the script
[02:01] <magneto> :)
[02:02] <nooneyouknow> does anyone know if the current breezy upgrade is working?
[02:02] <elmago> thx
[02:03] <theine> The new didgeridoo-enhanced welcome melody is very nice i have to say
[02:03] <petti> hm. had to do some work but now my webcam works with gnomemeeting.
[02:05] <Abood> hi there
[02:05] <Celiun> hm... the winmac_fstab script didn't work either
[02:05] <Celiun> wonder what's up
[02:05] <Celiun> still denying me access
[02:05] <Abood> guys can any body tell me how to install windows xp or win2k3 under ubuntu, or any tutorial that might help ??
[02:06] <Celiun> ...
[02:06] <emperon> magneto, still the situation is not improved. I got the same error and the referred dir is empty
[02:07] <emperon> magneto, can it be because of the modules working right now ?
[02:07] <sJaM> look in the wiki Abood
[02:08] <emperon> magneto, please check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/988
[02:09] <shinu> is there any way i could recover my /boot/grub/menu.lst file?
[02:09] <shinu> i just overwrote it by mistake...
[02:09] <emperon> there is this line in lsmod :  firmware_class          9728  0
[02:09] <JoshRA> Why would tspc and ipv6 cause a kernal panic?
[02:10] <shinu> oh nvm... there's a backup 8)
[02:10] <shinu> phew~
[02:10] <sJaM> sorry it isn't in the wiki Abood
[02:10] <sJaM> but there are a few steps todo
[02:10] <gorilla_> I'm not sure where this configure command aborts.. I'm trying to compil plib. paste is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/989
[02:10] <topyli> Abood: you would have to buy vmware, which costs about as much as a windows pc
[02:11] <sJaM> I though he ment a dualboot
[02:11] <magneto> emperon: did you delete everything in that directory?
[02:11] <topyli> Abood: or maybe qemu is good enough these days, dunno
[02:11] <emperon> magneto, i have rmoved everything to /tmp
[02:12] <magneto> emperon: ls /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build/include/config/ieee80211
[02:12] <emperon> magneto, i am writing ls -al  and  only the dots
[02:13] <mmazur> Anybody knows of any docs describing how ubuntu's release process looks like in detail (duration of freezes, etc.)?
[02:13] <magneto> emperon delete that folder too
[02:13] <emperon> magneto, ok
[02:13] <magneto> thats probably it
[02:13] <selinium> It it worth switching off the backports and extras repos after I have got what I want?
[02:14] <magneto> stupid script
[02:14] <kezz> selinium, how would you keep the stuff updated?
[02:15] <selinium> kezz: true, but it wants to update other files that are not being updated in the standard repos... it is basically a question on how dangerous it is...
[02:15] <bimberi> selinium: Yes. Just use them for installing things you "must have" but leave them off for (dist-)upgrades.
[02:15] <nekohayo> hello, I just bought an atheros-based b/a/g pcmcia wireless card, and I tested it, it works in the shop
[02:15] <emperon> magneto, seems 'making' now
[02:16] <nekohayo> however, I can't get signal
[02:16] <nekohayo> at home
[02:16] <nekohayo> I get like 0/94
[02:16] <emperon> thank you
[02:16] <selinium> cheers bimberi and kezz
[02:16] <nekohayo> any idea why?
[02:16] <Abood> topyli, sJaM: I heared something about VNS Server that could run it quietly and good ? any idea
[02:16] <jowi> hiya
[02:16] <magneto> sorry about that the solution is in that thread too but its 7 pages long
[02:16] <nekohayo> seems like something about tweaking the sensibility of the driver or the mode, but I don't know
[02:17] <magneto> im tired too its 8am here
[02:17] <jowi> i was thinking. i have a slight annoyance with ssh
[02:18] <jowi> when i start a command (lets say an mp3 playback) on the remote box and then close my connection, of course the tty and the command cease to exist. is there a way to let that process stay running?
[02:19] <nightswim> screen
[02:19] <nightswim> nohup
[02:19] <jowi> nightswim, was that response to me?
[02:19] <nightswim> yes
[02:19] <nightswim> :)
[02:19] <jowi> nightswim, thanks i will try that :-)
[02:20] <petti> ctrl-a d will also help once you get it running :)
[02:21] <JoshRA> Why would tspc and ipv6 cause a kernal panic?
[02:21] <jowi> nightswim, worked like a charm
[02:22] <nightswim> jowi: good :)
[02:22] <jowi> nightswim, problem #2.
[02:22] <dArtagnan> How do I unmount a device when it's busy? I can't find a process that is using the disc
[02:23] <nightswim> dArtagnan: tried lsof?
[02:23] <jowi> nightswim, i logged back again and killed the process. the pid dissapeared but the process is still going (i can hear the music)
[02:23] <dArtagnan> no, only a crappy system monitor, but that wasn't a very helpfull tool
[02:23] <nightswim> there is another process then :)
[02:23] <nightswim> or a very large buffer
[02:24] <jowi> nightswim, maybe it buffered the whole mp3 then. i will investigate. interesting
[02:24] <nightswim> or check the processlist
[02:24] <nightswim> perhaps there is a worker process left
[02:24] <nightswim> or something
[02:25] <emperon> magneto, still problems
[02:25] <jowi> hmmm, pstree does not state a process...
[02:25] <emperon> magneto, i have completed the how to upto the reboot section
[02:25] <highvoltage> on the plone.org site they recomment you install plone from source, not from your distribution's packages. Is this true? I would think that it's better to use the ubuntu packages in ubuntu.
[02:26] <emperon> magneto, the problem is in the network connections menu of the gnome i can not see the wireless connection anymore
[02:26] <jowi> nightswim, but it seemed like the whole "play my.mp3" was buffered as you said because suddenly it stopped after the song ended, even though i had put in a whole playlist.
[02:26] <jowi> nightswim, good man
[02:27] <dArtagnan> can I search the process list for something? because this one is just too long
[02:27] <crashd> ps -aux | grep something
[02:29] <dArtagnan> a found it, lsof names /path/to/dir
[02:29] <dArtagnan> there was indeed one process using the device
[02:29] <crashd> : ]
[02:30] <kumaran> hi
[02:30] <lurah> hi
[02:31] <ssh_rdp> where can i ask questions about my video card
[02:31] <kumaran> need link for open source software firewall with packet filtering features for my testing
[02:32] <thenuke> kumaran: iptables?
[02:32] <kumaran> i am looking for something similar to smoothwall
[02:33] <Ubuntu> Ah..........my i ask a question
[02:33] <kenny_> hi guys
[02:33] <Ubuntu> hello........kenny
[02:33] <jowi> hi kenny_
[02:33] <thenuke> kumaran: and smoothwall does not do what?
[02:33] <jowi> go on Ubuntu
[02:33] <kenny_> hi jowi/ubuntu
[02:34] <kenny_> so who has questions
[02:34] <Ubuntu> Me
[02:34] <kenny_> ask away
[02:34] <Ubuntu> About the RAID Controller
[02:34] <kenny_> Have no idea
[02:35] <kenny_> lol
[02:35] <Ubuntu> OMG
[02:35] <kumaran> thenuke: i need to check that
[02:35] <kenny_> so who r the admins/mods in this room
[02:35] <emperon> magneto, are you there  ?
[02:36] <ssh_rdp> anybody knows how to install i810 driver on ubuntu ?
[02:36] <thenuke> kenny_: why do you need an admin
[02:36] <Ubuntu> Wow........this is my first time to use IRC Protocal
[02:36] <jowi> ssh_rdp, modprobe i810 usually do the trick
[02:36] <Ubuntu> It is cool
[02:36] <kumaran> thenuke: need more info on open source software that does firewall and packet level filtering
[02:36] <kenny_> i dont, just like to know who they are
[02:37] <thenuke> ...
[02:37] <Ubuntu> Any one know how to install Ubuntu on VT6410?
[02:37] <jowi> ssh_rdp, if you want it automatic you can add "i810" to your /etc/modules
[02:37] <Amaranth> kenny_: You'll know who they are when you do something you shouldn't.
[02:37] <kenny_> lol
[02:38] <kenny_> yea i guess
[02:38] <mjr> Ubuntu, no; I'd just use software raid (unless you want to use 5 or 6)
[02:38] <emperon> Hello i have upgraded my ipw2200 wireless card driver from this Howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623. and now i can't use my wireless connection and i can't see the card in networking window of the gnome. How can i fix it ?
[02:39] <Ubuntu> kenny....are you the one of developer of Ubuntu?
[02:39] <Kev0r> YOW :D
[02:40] <othernoob> hi, how do i install vmware?
[02:40] <Ubuntu> I hava a source code of VIA South Bridge Driver..........but I need Ubuntu Deve to build in it
[02:40] <kumaran> othernoob: vmware on ubuntu
[02:40] <kenny_> no Ubuntu im not, im not smart enough to be a developer
[02:41] <kenny_> but i do like to help people with problems
[02:41] <Ubuntu> Good..........
[02:41] <emperon> kenny_, help me
[02:42] <kenny_> whats ur prob emperon
[02:42] <HeroTsai> hi
[02:42] <kenny_> hi hero
[02:42] <emperon> kenny_, i have upgraded my ipw2200 wireless card driver from this Howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623. and now i can't use my wireless connection and i can't see the card in networking window of the gnome. How can i fix it ?
[02:43] <HeroTsai> hi kenny
[02:43] <Ubuntu> Hi.....HeroTsai
[02:43] <Ubuntu> HeroTsai is my classmate
[02:43] <Ubuntu> XD
[02:45] <ssh_rdp> anyone with i810 graphic chip?
[02:45] <NealXGS> I change my nickname from Ubunu to NealXGS
[02:45] <NealXGS> I don't have
[02:45] <NealXGS> but i know it
[02:45] <HeroTsai> intel?
[02:45] <ssh_rdp> yes
[02:45] <NealXGS> i am hardware enthusiastic
[02:45] <NealXGS> i810
[02:45] <ssh_rdp> i got problem installing direct rendering
[02:45] <NealXGS> wow
[02:46] <NealXGS> long long ago
[02:46] <NealXGS> you mean on ubuntu?
[02:46] <NealXGS> i810..............you need to go to Intel Web
[02:46] <ssh_rdp> yes
[02:46] <ssh_rdp> it didnt help
[02:47] <NealXGS> Intel outside
[02:47] <NealXGS> XD
[02:47] <ssh_rdp> when i install the driver the xserver dont start again
[02:47] <ssh_rdp> what?
[02:47] <ssh_rdp> XD?
[02:47] <HeroTsai> edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:48] <DVSoftware> i have a problem with my nvidia again :@
[02:48] <kenny_> emperon u still there
[02:48] <NealXGS> really?
[02:48] <NealXGS> which card
[02:49] <NealXGS> DVSoftware?
[02:49] <kenny_> eperon i have found a website that might help
[02:49] <DVSoftware> NealXGS, geforce 440go
[02:49] <NealXGS> OMG
[02:49] <NealXGS> NoteBook
[02:49] <Despeeh> any idea why my mozilla java plugins do not work?  i have installed java and I made link from javaplugin to my firefox plugins
[02:49] <Despeeh> but not working
[02:49] <DVSoftware> when i reboot once, it's fine
[02:49] <DVSoftware> when i reboot for the second time
[02:49] <HeroTsai> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:49] <kenny_> emperon go here http://nickselby.com/articles/technology/?a=1807
[02:49] <DVSoftware> driver seems to be corrupted
[02:49] <DVSoftware> and x wont start
[02:50] <kenny_> That will you a tutorial hoome how to install your wireless cards
[02:50] <elmago> he guys back again
[02:50] <NealXGS> have you try the Nvidia Driver
[02:50] <NealXGS> Try it
[02:50] <NealXGS> DVSoftware
[02:50] <emperon> kenny_, ok
[02:50] <elmago> i have a problem with my ati drivers
[02:50] <DVSoftware> NealXGS, i am installing nvidia driver when it fails
[02:50] <elmago> can someone tell me how i get opengl running?
[02:50] <ssh_rdp> and i have problem with my intel card lol
[02:50] <DVSoftware> and after two reboots it fails again
[02:51] <NealXGS> cool
[02:51] <NealXGS> that's strage
[02:51] <DVSoftware> nvidia logo shows for a second
[02:51] <Despeeh> elmago what ati card do u have?
[02:51] <elmago> ati 9600 pro
[02:51] <Despeeh> what driver
[02:51] <DVSoftware> and crashes
[02:51] <DVSoftware> elmago, gfx card?
[02:51] <DVSoftware> ah
[02:51] <DVSoftware> ati
[02:51] <DVSoftware> you have to install fglrx driver
[02:51] <elmago> gfx card?
[02:51] <elmago> i have
[02:52] <elmago> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:52] <NealXGS> Geforce FX
[02:52] <elmago> thats what i have done
[02:52] <NealXGS> wait
[02:52] <NealXGS> i need to go
[02:52] <magneto> emperon: whats up - are you using wep or wpa or none of that?
[02:52] <NealXGS> Do any one know VIA VT6410?
[02:52] <elmago> i also intalled the ati driver from the ati hp
[02:53] <elmago> could it be that the ati driver works against the fglrx ?
[02:53] <Despeeh> have you configured your xorg surely right?
[02:53] <elmago> i hope so
[02:53] <Despeeh> what does your glxinfo say?
[02:54] <elmago> but i^m not sure
[02:54] <Despeeh> vendor string and render string ?
[02:54] <elmago> glxinfo
[02:54] <elmago> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[02:54] <elmago> Xlib: No protocol specified
[02:54] <elmago> Error: unable to open display (null)
[02:55] <Despeeh> are you root now?
[02:55] <Despeeh> or not?
[02:55] <elmago> yes
[02:55] <Despeeh> dont be
[02:57] <zho> dear all...
[02:57] <ubuntu> algum?
[02:57] <zho> how to share internet connection to LAN?
[02:57] <ubuntu> Sou Brasileiro!!!
[02:57] <zho> i'm using ppp0
[02:57] <jim_> my volume controller on the desktop does not change the volume??? Can anyone help?
[02:57] <ubuntu> I'm brazillian
[02:58] <DVSoftware> zho easiest way would be to install firestarter firewall
[02:58] <ubuntu> I'm testing the uburuntu live CD
[02:58] <jim_> I've serched the documentation and tried the forums with no success
[02:59] <DVSoftware> wizard will ask you "do you wan't to ishare internet connection"
[02:59] <DVSoftware> share*
[02:59] <ubuntu> bye....
[03:00] <jim_> in my desktop volume controll properties, I do not have a PCM slider bar option
[03:01] <jowi> jim_, try rightclick on it and choose volume control. then see if that works for you. you can also see there on the top menu if you have another "device" to choose from.
[03:01] <Whitesocks> Im having a problem with the gdb command.... when i try to set a breakpoint at some line number, it doesnt set the breakpoint in the file Im trying to debug...instead it uses some library file: Breakpoint 1 at 0x80482d0: file ../sysdeps/i386/elf/start.S, line 10.
[03:01] <kenny_> how do i install new fonts in ubuntu
[03:02] <jowi> kenny_, place the fonts in your ~.fonts directory
[03:02] <jim_> Hi jowi - no the volume control does not work either - I have tried both devices with no success.
[03:02] <kenny_> i want it system wide jowi
[03:02] <jowi> jim_, do you have two soundcards?
[03:02] <HappyFool> Whitesocks: ask maybe in #gcc
[03:02] <Whitesocks> Anyone has any suggestions on how to make gdb set the breakpoint in the file im working on?
[03:02] <jim_> no I don't
[03:02] <Whitesocks> HappyFool: ok, ill try it.. thanks
[03:03] <jim_> I only have onboard sound
[03:03] <jowi> kenny_, /usr/share/fonts
[03:03] <Discipulus> what up?
[03:04] <jim_> but I have two devices in the list - c media electronics (OSS Mixer) and Intel ICH5 (ALSA Mixer)
[03:04] <jowi> did you have another device in the volume control to choose? (I have only one card but i have two "devices"; an extra one for alsa)
[03:04] <kenny_> I have cd to there, do i just copy and paste them in or do i have to create folders for different font types
[03:04] <jowi> jim_, try the alsa one
[03:04] <emperon> magneto,
[03:04] <jowi> kenny_, have a look in that folder. it is divided into font-types already
[03:05] <emperon> magneto, awake ?
[03:05] <jim_> II've tried them both - the ALSA one is definately the one I should be using
[03:05] <jim_> my multimedia systems selector is set to ALSA
[03:05] <jowi> jim_, is it muted?
[03:06] <jim_> no no - I have sound.  Sound works perfectly - I just can't turn it up or down :)
[03:06] <jowi> jim_, aaaaahhhhh
[03:06] <magneto> yeah u still there
[03:06] <magneto> emperon:
[03:06] <jowi> jim_, does it work with "alsamixer" in a terminal?
[03:06] <jim_> nope I've tried that too
[03:07] <emperon> magneto, ok now the wireless card symbol is removed from the networking gnome menu
[03:07] <kenny_> thanks jowi that worked
[03:07] <jowi> jim_, do you have a pcm control in alsamixer?
[03:07] <emperon> magneto, i can't even configure it
[03:07] <raven3x7> hello
[03:07] <jowi> kenny_, you're welcome
[03:07] <jim_> jowi, in Volume Control on the switches tab I can tick and untick a box called PCM.  That mutes and unmutes the sound
[03:07] <jim_> but I don't have a PCM slider anywhere
[03:07] <magneto> emperon:  are you using wpa or wep or no security?
[03:08] <emperon> magneto, no security
[03:08] <magneto> ok
[03:08] <magneto> emperon: iwlist
[03:08] <jim_> erm...
[03:08] <emperon> magneto, it has nothing to do with the security i suppose now
[03:08] <emperon> magneto, cant find any interface it says
[03:08] <jowi> jim_, then your soundcard or driver is wierd. you should be able to adjust that slider. have you searched the forums for your soundcard?
[03:08] <raven3x7> somebody suggested to me that i compile fluxbox with a certain confugure option(i believe it was thorapeutic). anyone might know which one it was?
[03:08] <magneto> just askin because of the wpa thing
[03:08] <raven3x7> configure
[03:08] <jim_> jowi, yes I have a PCM control in alsamixer but I can't turn it up or down
[03:08] <magneto> okay lsmod |grep ipw
[03:09] <kenny_> thanks guys for the help
[03:09] <kenny_> bye yall
[03:09] <jim_> yeah this is my last port of call :)
[03:09] <jim_> bye kenny
[03:09] <emperon> magneto, kenny gave me this link http://nickselby.com/articles/technology/?a=1807
[03:10] <jowi> bye kenny_
[03:10] <emperon> magneto, and iwlist doesn't even mention about eth1
[03:10] <magneto> thats ok - i can walk you through it real quick if you want
[03:11] <magneto> emperon:   lsmod | grep ipw
[03:11] <emperon> magneto, ok
[03:11] <magneto> what does it say
[03:12] <magneto> emperon: did you ignore the wpa parts of that tutorial?
[03:12] <emperon> notig
[03:12] <emperon> magneto, yes
[03:12] <magneto> ok :)
[03:12] <emperon> i just reboot
[03:12] <magneto> modprobe ipw2200
[03:12] <magneto> no need
[03:12] <emperon> FATAL: Module ipw2200 not found.
[03:12] <magneto> or did you already?
[03:13] <magneto> have u rebooted at all since installing the new driver?
[03:13] <emperon> magneto, twice
[03:13] <Kev0r> Trying to compile gnome-volume-manager, the configure works fine, the make gives errors at a certain pont, located at the pastebin now... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/990
[03:13] <magneto> sudo modprobe ipw2200
[03:13] <Kev0r> plz help me :P
[03:14] <edie> how to start apache/mysql and PHP, and how to stop them?
[03:14] <emperon> magneto,  the last thing i have done in the howto was dmesg | grep ipw. I have done all up to there
[03:14] <emperon> magneto, i suppose it includes some wpa
[03:15] <emperon> magneto, FATAL: Module ipw2200 not found.
[03:16] <DVSoftware> i have a problem compiling amaroK
[03:16] <emperon> magneto, i also realize thee missing occured after the remove-old. At that i checked it and can't see the wireless card in gnome networking menu
[03:16] <DVSoftware> from cvs
[03:16] <magneto> sudo apt-get remove wpasupplicant
[03:16] <DVSoftware> it's complaining that i need automake 1.6.1 or newer
[03:16] <Seveaz> DVSoftware, hint: apt-get build-dep amarok
[03:16] <Seveaz> that installs all build dependencies for the known version
[03:16] <DVSoftware> but i have installed automake 1.8
[03:17] <edie> how to start apache, my sql and PHP, and stop these services?
[03:17] <dimitris> How can i mount a fat32 partition so that all users can read and write not only root?
[03:17] <Seveaz> dimitris: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[03:17] <fredforfaen> hey peeps
[03:17] <magneto> remove old is not the problem
[03:17] <DVSoftware> Seveas, you are missing the point :(
[03:17] <bartekp>  /list
[03:17] <Kev0r> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/990 Can anyone help me with this problem?
[03:18] <edie> dimitris: the url is really works(seveaz)
[03:18] <Seveas> DVSoftware, install automake1.6 too then
[03:18] <edie> how to start apache, my sql and PHP, and stop these services?
[03:18] <emperon> magneto, hold on i might have forgotten to write make install for ipw
[03:18] <magneto> :)
[03:18] <DVSoftware> i'm trying apt-get build-dep amarok now
[03:18] <Seveas> DVSoftware, automake versions are quite incompatible, that's why you can install several versions next to each other
[03:18] <fredforfaen> doesent anybody have the time to say hi to me?
[03:18] <jowi> edie, /etc/init.d/server start / stop / restart
[03:18] <fredforfaen> :(
[03:18] <Seveas> edie, sudo invoke-rc.d apache stop
[03:18] <Seveas> (or start, restart...)
[03:19] <magneto> DVSoftware: !backports
[03:19] <emperon> magneto, now i make installed and running modprobe ipw2200 , it just gives a blank output
[03:19] <dimitris> I have the partition mounted ok the way i want it (with greek filename support) i just want to be able to write on it as a user not only as root like it is now
[03:19] <bartekp> fredforfaen: hi (:
[03:19] <jowi> emperon, that means it was successful
[03:19] <DVSoftware> why the heck i would need libgtk1.2 for amarok when it's kde app
[03:19] <fredforfaen> :) hi bartekp
[03:20] <emperon> magneto, and wireless came back to the menu. Ohh ! how fool i am
[03:20] <fredforfaen> and high to everybody else
[03:20] <edie>  SEVEAS: does this mean can we call any program "using invkoe", i mean sql, also php...
[03:20] <magneto> emperon: :) attention to detail  it wll make u bang your head sometimes
[03:20] <Seveas> edie, php is part of apache
[03:20] <edie> they start together?
[03:20] <Seveas> mysql can be stopped/started in the same way
[03:20] <Seveas> edie, yes
[03:21] <LinuxDolt> why am i missing so many packages?  i can't seem to find bmp-skins, xmms, wine, and a host of others
[03:21] <Amaranth> !repositories
[03:21] <ubotu> hmm... repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:21] <LinuxDolt> been there done that
[03:21] <Amaranth> LinuxDolt: you need universe and such
[03:21] <Seveas> LinuxDolt, enable universe, then you can see much more
[03:21] <Seveas> LinuxDolt: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:21] <edie> to be sure i will ask again( these 3 programs start together?)
[03:21] <LinuxDolt> as i said, been there done that
[03:21] <Amaranth> LinuxDolt: you've run apt-get update or clicked 'reload' in synaptic?
[03:22] <Seveas> edie, mysql not
[03:22] <Seveas> mysql can be stopped/started in the same way <--
[03:22] <LinuxDolt> yep
[03:22] <edie> ok thanx,
[03:22] <Amaranth> !info bmp-skins
[03:22] <Amaranth> doesn't exist
[03:22] <Seveas> backportds
[03:22] <Seveas> s/d//
[03:22] <Amaranth> !info xmms
[03:22] <Seveas> or actually hoary-extras
[03:22] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1917 kB, Installed size: 5988 kB
[03:22] <Amaranth> hrm
[03:23] <Amaranth> one of these days i'll actually get a good night (day, whatever) of sleep
[03:23] <HappyFool> sleep is overrated
[03:23] <edie> i want to know if apache starts on start up or not, i want to change this option, how to?
[03:23] <Whitesocks> Hmm, im having no luck with the gdb questions... example: "gdb test", "break 10"... gives me output "Breakpoint 1 at 0x80482d0: file ../sysdeps/i386/elf/start.S, line 10". It sets the breakpoint in some library file instead of test1... why?
[03:23] <LinuxDolt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer <-- this page tells me that there IS a bmp-skins package
[03:24] <HappyFool> Whitesocks: is test a C file?
[03:24] <HappyFool> Whitesocks: i.e., there's a test.c?
[03:24] <jowi> LinuxDolt, yes. there is
[03:24] <onur_> wireless is up and working, thx magneto
[03:25] <jowi> LinuxDolt, it is located in the universe repository
[03:25] <Whitesocks> HappyFool: Yes, and its in the same directory as the executable
[03:25] <LinuxDolt> jowi: well... it's missing
[03:25] <HappyFool> Whitesocks: did you compile with the -g option?
[03:26] <jowi> LinuxDolt, no. it's there. your sources.list file is not up-to-date
[03:26] <HappyFool> Whitesocks: I've just made a very simple and it works as I expect
[03:26] <jowi> !repositories
[03:26] <ubotu> repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:26] <LinuxDolt> jowi: well, how do i get it up to date?
[03:26] <Whitesocks> Hmm, no i didnt compile with -g... ill try it right away
[03:26] <jowi> LinuxDolt, see the link ubotu pasted
[03:26] <LinuxDolt> i've already gone through what that link says
[03:26] <magneto> no prob onur_
[03:27] <magneto> emperon = onur?
[03:27] <LinuxDolt> !source.list
[03:27] <ubotu> LinuxDolt: Are you smoking crack?
[03:27] <Whitesocks> HappyFool: That solved my problem! Didnt know i had to use -g.... now it works. Thanks mate. :)
[03:28] <magneto> !who's your daddy?
[03:28] <ubotu> magneto: Wish i knew
[03:28] <LinuxDolt> if i were a drug addict, ubotu, i'd've smoked through a years supply by now in just one night
[03:28] <Seveas> LinuxDolt: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:28] <HappyFool> Whitesocks: cool
[03:28] <HappyFool> heh
[03:28] <LinuxDolt> Seveas: thanks
[03:28] <magneto> !wtf
[03:28] <ubotu> magneto: I give up, what is it?
[03:28] <HappyFool> wow, 969. pastebin is growing more and more quickly
[03:28] <Seveas> :)
[03:29] <Seveas> latest is 990
[03:29] <Seveas> we're almost at 1000
[03:29] <Seveas> oh, and this pastebin is set to never forget
[03:29] <edie> i want to know if apache starts on start up or not, i want to change this option, how to?
[03:29] <Seveas> edie, it starts on startup
[03:29] <Seveas> if you dont want that: sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove
[03:29] <Seveas> (same goes for mysql)
[03:30] <LinuxDolt> Seveas: so where do i save it?
[03:30] <edie> how can i change it not to start?
[03:30] <luxem> hello, I need some help. Does anyone know why my telnet deamon doesen't start but i habe everything installed and open the tcp port 23 ?
[03:30] <Seveas> if you dont want that: sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove
[03:30] <Seveas> ^-- edie
[03:30] <Seveas> luxem, why on earth would you want a telnet daemon?
[03:30] <Seveas> it's so incredibly insecure....
[03:30] <edie> seve: later i can restart it as you told, can i?
[03:31] <luxem> to open a telnet-server
[03:31] <HappyFool> he's feeling lucky
[03:31] <thenuke> luxem: open a ssh-server
[03:31] <thenuke> :)
[03:31] <Seveas> edie, sure, update-rc.d does not remove apache itself, you can start it with invoke-rc.d apache2 start anytime
[03:31] <LinuxDolt> nyargh!  where do i need to copy my new sources.list to?
[03:31] <spanglesontoast> what is the default username and password for webmin?
[03:31] <luxem> its only to remember the good old times (:
[03:31] <HappyFool> /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:31] <LinuxDolt> thanks
[03:32] <thenuke> spanglesontoast: I wonder if there is any, read the documents always first before asking IRC ;)
[03:32] <Seveas> spanglesontoast, it wants you to login as root, so you will need to set a root password
[03:32] <Fire> mpegopts is not an MEncoder option , how do I fix this error
[03:32] <Fire> it is a missing package, but I don't know what
[03:32] <edie> seve: thanx  a lot
[03:32] <spanglesontoast> so I have to make a root account on ubuntu to use webmin?
[03:32] <Seveas> spanglesontoast, yuo.
[03:33] <Fire> a rudimentry search of the forums. shows nothing, seems like it works for everyone
[03:33] <Seveas> that's why you should disable webmin when you don't need it
[03:33] <spanglesontoast> are you sure
[03:33] <Seveas> it's a very big security hole
[03:33] <Seveas> spanglesontoast, positive
[03:33] <spanglesontoast> can't I make a user when I get into
[03:33] <spanglesontoast> then disable it
[03:34] <Seveas> nope
[03:36] <spanglesontoast> still won't allow me to login
[03:37] <elmago> @Seveas could you help me? i didnt get my opengl working
[03:39] <Seveas> elmago, what makes you think I can help with that? :)
[03:40] <elmago> despeeh said that you know everything , so i thought you might could help
[03:40] <Seveas> hehe
[03:40] <elmago> could you?
[03:41] <Seveas> Unfortunately I'm not that good at X problems, but if you describe your situation a bit better I or someone else might be able to help
[03:41] <raven3x7> hmm vlc crashes in Afterstep when i fullscreen it
[03:42] <yonil> How can i use ls to display results by date  ?
[03:42] <Seveas> ls -t
[03:42] <elmago> ok i installed fglrx-driver and i reconfigured my x-server
[03:43] <LinuxDolt> ehh? E: Type '@deb-src' is not known on line 40 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:43] <Despeeh> Seveas let me guide you a bit: elmago does not have device, screen and monitor sections in his Xorg.conf
[03:43] <yonil> Seveas, thanks, do you know how can i flip the results ? (from older to newer)
[03:43] <Seveas> LinuxDolt, argh, I forgot to correct that, sorry, change the @ into an #
[03:43] <elmago> thats what i was about to say ;)
[03:43] <Seveas> yonil, hmm, read the manpage :)
[03:43] <LinuxDolt> Seveas: kk
[03:43] <Seveas> it has a reverse-order flag
[03:43] <elmago> what?
[03:43] <HappyFool> or just 'ls --help'
[03:44] <Seveas> Despeeh, ouch
[03:44] <Despeeh> :)
[03:44] <Seveas> elmago, what kind of card do you have?
[03:44] <Fire> anyone use mencoder
[03:44] <elmago> ati 9600 pro
[03:44] <luxem> Yeah I have it done (: I had just connected from a Windows Me Machine to my Ubuntu Machine (:
[03:44] <luxem> via telnet
[03:44] <yonil> Seveas, -r yay thanks ;)
[03:45] <LinuxDolt> bmp-skins must truly not exist?
[03:45] <gorilla_> luxem, telnet or ssh?
[03:45] <luxem> telnet
[03:45] <Seveas> LinuxDolt, only in hoary-extras
[03:45] <Seveas> elmago, great :)
[03:45] <luxem> ok thx 4 support, bye
[03:45] <Seveas> I have a 9600 mobile
[03:45] <Seveas> I can give you my xorg.conf
[03:45] <gorilla_> luxem, that fine but not very safe, see if you can install and configure ssh...
[03:46] <elmago> yeah i have ah 9700 on my laptop
[03:46] <LinuxDolt> ahh, so, what do i add to that list to get that to work.  i like manually adding lines to files, i KNOW what it does then
[03:46] <elmago> ok
[03:46] <luxem> this thing with telnet was only a test
[03:46] <spanglesontoast> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[03:46] <spanglesontoast> tar: Child returned status 1
[03:46] <spanglesontoast> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[03:46] <spanglesontoast> ?
[03:46] <elmago> you mean that would work?
[03:46] <Seveas> elmago, probably
[03:46] <luxem> quit
[03:46] <Seveas> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/953
[03:46] <elmago> ok i try
[03:46] <HappyFool> spanglesontoast: try removing the 'z'
[03:47] <Thunder00> what's similar to getright in linux ?\
[03:47] <HappyFool> spanglesontoast: maybe 'tar tf <filename>'
[03:47] <spanglesontoast> still don't work
[03:47] <equex> should xorg.conf and XF86Config-4 be identical ? appears some apps reads from one and some from the other
[03:47] <spanglesontoast> without the z or using tf
[03:47] <HappyFool> spanglesontoast: what's the file's name? .tar.gz ? or .tar.bz2?
[03:47] <elmago> overwrite it?
[03:48] <spanglesontoast> webmin-1.220.tar.gz
[03:48] <Thunder00> what's a good program for downloads? for resuming downloads and such ?
[03:48] <HappyFool> spanglesontoast: hmm. what does 'file webmin-1.220.tar.gz' say?
[03:48] <thomerz> Thunder00, d4x or wget
[03:48] <spanglesontoast> tar: Child returned status 1
[03:48] <spanglesontoast> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[03:48] <Seveas> elmago, backup your own xorg.conf first :)
[03:49] <Thunder00> thomerz thanks
[03:49] <Seveas> spanglesontoast, what's the output of: file webmin*.tar.gz
[03:49] <spanglesontoast> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[03:49] <spanglesontoast> tar: Child returned status 1
[03:49] <spanglesontoast> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[03:49] <Despeeh> ya elmago, propably you will come here othervice only with screen or bithX :)
[03:49] <spanglesontoast> ah
[03:49] <spanglesontoast> I reckon
[03:49] <HappyFool> odd. i wouldn't have thought file would invoke tar
[03:49] <spanglesontoast> it's corrupting
[03:49] <Seveas> spanglesontoast, guess so...
[03:50] <Seveas> spanglesontoast, btw: webmin is in the repositories...
[03:50] <elmago> @Seveas : you think that will work i mean i have no touchped nor a mobility card
[03:51] <spanglesontoast> yes
[03:51] <spanglesontoast> but seveas
[03:51] <Seveas> elmago, you can substitute the touchpad part with your mouses part
[03:51] <spanglesontoast> it didn't work
[03:51] <spanglesontoast> when I had a root account
[03:51] <elmago> ok
[03:51] <oonoon> hi, my wifi card is now well installed ; when i boot the system, it takes much time at the line 'configuring the network' ; is that normal ?
[03:51] <HappyFool> equex: i don't have an XF86Config-4 -- only xorg.conf
[03:52] <Goek> how do i make a keyboard shortcut to a application?
[03:52] <thomerz> yes oonoon, if you have configured your card for dhcp, and there is no dhcp server available
[03:52] <HappyFool> equex: i think you'll only have the XF86* file if you upgraded from warty to hoary
[03:52] <Goek> i wanna have a desktop shortcut to 3ddesktop
[03:52] <jowi> oonoon, depends of what you mean by a long time. mine takes about 3 seconds
[03:52] <equex> HappyFool: hmmm. i have a clean hoary
[03:52] <oonoon> jowi > maybe 1 minute, something like that
[03:52] <Goek> i know what commands i need to use, but not how to execute them thru a keyboard shortcut
[03:53] <onur_> oonoon, http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuringnetwoktooslow
[03:53] <oonoon> ouhouh, thanks onur_
[03:53] <Linux_Galore> just been hacking my Ubuntu desktop -> http://www.kde-look.org/content/files/27386-mix.jpg
[03:53] <jowi> oonoon, if it tries to connect wirelessly i'd say it would depend on your signal strength and quality of the signal + encryption
[03:53] <Despeeh> grubconf is only in wartys repos, but not in hoarys?
[03:53] <Linux_Galore> hows that for a massive change
[03:54] <oonoon> jowi > im very close to the router, the signal is excellent, it cant be that
[03:54] <HappyFool> equex: any ideas where it came from? try maybe 'dpkg -S XF86Config-4' (or XF86config-4, whatever the name is)
[03:54] <Seveas> onur_, read what ubotu says
[03:54] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[03:54] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[03:55] <onur_> Seveas, ?
[03:55] <onur_> !ubuntuguide
[03:55] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[03:55] <xerox> Hi.  Do anybody have a clue of how the "Places" menu work?  Sometime the windows partition shows up there, some other time it doesn't.  Do you know what it could be the reason?
[03:55] <jowi> oonoon, close to the router means nothing if you have devices distrurbing it (as wireless phones, wireless keyboard/mouse, neighbours routers)
[03:56] <onur_> Seveas, i see
[03:56] <Seveas> xerox, if it is mounted it shows up
[03:56] <Zedman> hallo
[03:56] <xerox> Seveas, it doesn't right now :-(
[03:56] <Seveas> xerox, if it is in /etc/fstab with user option it will always show
[03:56] <equex> HappyFool: i think XF86config-4 appeared after i install ATI drivers for 9200
[03:56] <equex> the ATI installer writes to that file
[03:56] <Seveas> xerox, if it is mounted *with user option* it shows up
[03:56] <xerox> Seveas, OK, let me check.
[03:56] <LinuxDolt> i may FINALLY have this thing done right...
[03:56] <Zedman> is there somebody how could help me tp set up an ftop server with vsftpd ?
[03:57] <xerox> Seveas, seems so: "/dev/hda1       /mnt/windows    ntfs    rw,user,noauto,umask=0222       0       0"
[03:57] <Blissex> that "rw" is not a good idea...
[03:57] <jowi> oonoon, my first suggestion would be to change the router channel and turn off encryption to see if you get fast connect. once you have that; add encryption.
[03:57] <xerox> Blissex, neevermind, it does not work anyway.
[03:58] <LinuxDolt> NOOO!
[03:58] <HappyFool> equex: ah. maybe use the ATI driver packaged by ubuntu instead
[03:58] <xerox> Blissex, dr-xr-xr-x  1 root root 65536 2005-08-02 10:41 windows
[03:58] <LinuxDolt> wine and bmp-skins both are still missing :(
[03:58] <HappyFool> equex: i think you can find info here: (ubotu will say more)
[03:58] <HappyFool> !ati
[03:58] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:58] <jowi> LinuxDolt, did you type 'sudo apt-get update' before trying to grab it?
[03:59] <LinuxDolt> jowi: aye
[03:59] <oonoon> jowi > ok, i ll try that
[03:59] <xerox> Seveas, any idea?
[03:59] <drednik> hi. any pointers on getting sound to work on an integrated intel video / sound card on a gateway laptop. i've tried lots of things, to no avail.
[03:59] <equex> xerox: shouldnt that be RO,user,noauto,umask=0222 ? 0222 means read only
[04:00] <equex> not RW
[04:00] <Seveas> xerox, hmm
[04:00] <LinuxDolt> jowi: and when i read the output it looks like it grabbed everything...
[04:00] <Meldarion> Hi, i've tried Ubuntu live-cd but then there always comes a text: "ohci-hcd 0000:00:13.0 Unlink after no-IRQ? Different ACPI or APIC settings may help."
[04:00] <cavediver> Anyone know of any program in Ubuntu for creating ansi-art, for bbs-screens ?
[04:00] <Seveas> xerox, does it show up in places -> computer?
[04:00] <Meldarion> and it stays there and i cant do anything.
[04:00] <equex> HappyFool: alright ill try uninstlling ati ,reset xserver and install ubuntu ati drivers
[04:00] <Seveas> Meldarion, yes
[04:00] <equex> because my X is hosed as well
[04:01] <xerox> Seveas, yup as "30G Hard Drive: 30G Media"
[04:01] <kemik> i got some fglrx troubles, can anyone look and see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/991   ?
[04:01] <Seveas> boot with noacpi and/or noapic
[04:01] <xerox> Seveas, the times when it appeared under "Places" it was called "windows", tough.
[04:01] <Meldarion> i cant type any text there.
[04:01] <jowi> LinuxDolt, i give you my sources.list. it works because i just tried to install bmp-skins and it worked without problem.
[04:01] <Seveas> xerox, is it in the places menu when it isn't mounted?
[04:01] <HappyFool> equex: you can try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to get a more-or-less working xorg.conf (without accelerated ati drivers)
[04:02] <Meldarion> or should what i should do to be able to write commands?
[04:02] <xerox> Seveas, you mean in "Places -> Computer" ?
[04:02] <LinuxDolt> jowi: send away
[04:02] <equex> HappyFool: that was what i was meaning
[04:02] <Zedman> !amule
[04:02] <ubotu> Zedman: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:02] <equex> or thats what i meant, rather.
[04:03] <Seveas> xerox, in Places
[04:03] <xerox> Seveas, when unmounted it's not in "Places" but it's called "30G Hard Drive" in "Places -> Computer"
[04:03] <Seveas> xerox, hmm
[04:03] <reka> kemik: you running warty or hoary?
[04:04] <Seveas> I though I finally understood the behaviour of that menu, but apparently not
[04:04] <Seveas> sorry
[04:04] <xerox> Nevermind.  Anyone else know?
[04:04] <Meldarion> Seveas, how can i boot with noacpi and no apic ?`
[04:06] <kemik> reka:  hoary
[04:06] <equex> HappyFool: do i need to manually remove all ATI files manually first, before i install ubuntu ATI drivers ?
[04:07] <reka> kemik: and when did this happen?  after you tried to install your drivers?
[04:07] <HappyFool> equex: i'm not sure; it's probably best to do so
[04:07] <kemik> reka:  and its xorg-driver-fglrx that driver im using
[04:07] <HappyFool> equex: does the driver not have an 'uninstall' option?
[04:07] <kemik> reka:  yes, it's like this when im using "fglrx" in xorg.conf
[04:07] <reka> kemik: so you followed the wiki?
[04:07] <equex> HappyFool: no
[04:08] <equex> or i dont know actually
[04:08] <equex> i saw someyihng on the net about going after each file
[04:08] <equex> something*
[04:08] <equex> delete 10 files here, 2 files ther etc
[04:08] <ACSpike> I have a question concerning locales, in the debian or ubuntu installer I think I remember a screen where I am asked to choose which locales to generate. I monolingual english so I always just choose C locale. but now I would like to test some software in other locales, how can I generate other locales after the fact?
[04:08] <HappyFool> equex: i believe the nvidia provided .sh or .run file has uninstall; i'm not familiar with ati's driver
[04:09] <kemik> reka:  no the wikipage i found is in italian ;|
[04:09] <reka> !ati
[04:09] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:09] <reka> kemik: i mean that one.
[04:09] <max> hi guys
[04:09] <HappyFool> ACSpike: at a guess 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales'
[04:09] <max> what's the status of breezy ?
[04:09] <kemik> reka:  and i also had to add Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"
[04:10] <ACSpike> HappyFool: I'll give a try
[04:10] <HappyFool> max: see /topic
[04:10] <kemik> reka:  well, that's what ive done :)
[04:11] <reka> kemik: so you can use 'ati' or 'vesa' fine?  it's just when you try fglrx that it does this?
[04:12] <hendo> hi
[04:12] <kemik> reka:  yeah. and i still get a performance increase (from 250fps to 1200 fps in glxgears) .. it's just bothering me
[04:12] <sobersabre> hello
[04:12] <hendo> hi
[04:12] <kemik> reka:  i dont like Warnings :)
[04:12] <sobersabre> what's up with breezy ?
[04:12] <hendo> i am only new here
[04:13] <HappyFool> hendo: welcome
[04:13] <sobersabre> hendo: hola!
[04:13] <hendo> thanks
[04:13] <kemik> reka:  "ATI driver version 8.12.10 is available in breezy, which should fix this problem + have a decent performance improvement", think i should try to add Breezy repos and install atidrivers fromthere?
[04:13] <reka> kemik: wait a sec.. you can actually boot into X using the fglrx drivers?
[04:13] <kemik> reka:  yes
[04:13] <hendo> this is really good this ubuntu
[04:13] <sobersabre> when is breezy to be released?
[04:13] <hendo> better than xp windows
[04:13] <kemik> sobersabre:  october
[04:13] <keikoz> october