[07:39] <zxmpi> happy towel day and gnu terry pratchett
[13:11] <penguin42> happy towel day; https://cdn.mastodon.org.uk/media_attachments/files/110/429/473/852/846/530/original/4dd282eda3a8e7e1.jpeg
[22:52] <davef> I think you misspelled "tape"


[07:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #84484 in ubuntu-doc "Launchpad recommends translating ubuntu-doc's main--deleted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/84484
[10:58] <mdke_> god launchpad makes me mad sometimes
[11:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #84499 in rosetta "Unchecking "Uses Rosetta Officially" should hide all translations for a product" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/84499
[11:30] <kiko-afk> mdke_, what did we do now?
[11:39] <mdke_> kiko-afk: I've sent an email. I'm sorry to be a bit grumpy :(
[11:40] <kiko-afk> oh.
[11:41] <mdke_> still no doubt you've had much grumpier
[11:42] <kiko-afk> well there's a bug which prevents me from doing the cleaning up
[11:42] <kiko-afk> and matsubara told me last week it was fixed
[11:42] <kiko-afk> and it hasn't been
[11:43] <mdke_> so there is work going on towards fixing it?
[11:43] <kiko-afk> well
[11:43] <kiko-afk> ther is work going on towards allowing admins to move them to unused products
[11:44] <kiko-afk> to be honest deleting anything in launchpad is pretty difficult because of referential integrity
[11:44] <mdke_> yeah, I know the bug is hard to fix, I've heard that before. But it doesn't mean there shouldn't be any sign of willingness to fix it on the bug report
[11:44] <kiko-afk> mdke_, it's hard to prioritize with such a wide userbase, seriously
[11:45] <mdke_> yeah
[11:45] <kiko-afk> take yesterday. mdz comes in and complains about debian bug watches. you complain about series deletion. mark complains that beta isn't getting done fast enough. and I am annoyed because 20 pages are crashing because of a hard limit added to an API.
[11:45] <kiko-afk> and this is a saturday!
[11:50] <mdke_> yes
[11:51] <mdke_> kiko-afk: that's partly what I mean when I worry about launchpad having been put to serious use by Ubuntu at a very early stage in its development
[11:51] <kiko-afk> the worst part is
[11:51] <kiko-afk> I am unable to fix this bug
[11:51] <kiko-afk> it's not a very early stage, though, tbh
[11:51] <kiko-afk> it's just that its development has been uneven
[11:52] <kiko-afk> I can't reproduce the @!@#!# permission bug
[11:52] <mdke_> which one is that?
[11:52] <kiko-afk> allowing me to +review series
[11:52] <kiko-afk> I can reproduce it live
[11:52] <kiko-afk> but not in sampledata
[11:53] <mdke_> ah. Well I suppose the workaround would probably be helpful, although even then depending on admins isn't ideal.
[11:53] <kiko-afk> there is nothing more frustrating than not being able to solve a problem users are having
[11:54] <mdke_> well, that's because you care, which is something I never doubted :)
[11:54] <mdke_> the LP developers are really special. But it doesn't stop me being grumpy sometimes
[11:55] <kiko-afk> now I"m grumpy because I can't reproduce this @!#4$! bug
[11:55] <mdke_> let's both un-grump, it's a sunday
[11:55] <ajmitch> kiko-afk: as grumpy as we may be at times, we appreciate the work that goes into LP
[11:56] <mdke_> that's what I was trying to say, yeah :)
[11:56] <kiko-afk> oh I know what is wrong here
[11:56] <kiko-afk> @*!&#@##$
[11:56] <kiko-afk> BUTTSOURCE
[11:56] <kiko-afk> god damned permissions bullshit
[11:57] <kiko-afk> DONE
[11:57] <kiko-afk> fuck you buttsource
[11:58] <kiko-afk> for context
[11:58] <kiko-afk> buttsource is a special team that has some permissions that launchpad admins don't
[11:58] <kiko-afk> I forgot about that but just ran into it in the code
[11:58] <kiko-afk> so I went and added myself to the team
[11:59] <mdke_> I thought you were just swearing gratuitously
[11:59] <kiko-afk> I could never understand the meaning of that team name
[11:59] <kiko-afk> until now
[12:00] <ajmitch> it's a creative team name
[12:00] <mdke_> haha
[12:01] <ajmitch> gar, oops on beta
[12:02] <kiko-afk> ajmitch, there's one which steve fixed which apparently hasn't been rolled out yet
[12:02] <kiko-afk> yeah
[12:03] <ajmitch> beta is looking nicer though :)
[12:13] <mdke_> kiko-afk: wow thanks
[12:14] <kiko-afk> you're welcome
[12:14] <kiko-afk> let me try and find some food now
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #84513 in launchpad "Constrain displaynames to 60 characters" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/84513
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #84516 in rosetta "Copy text doesn't work from chosen selected language" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/84516
[01:07] <Mez> can someone disable LP to email this user
[01:07] <Mez> liam-intermedia-online
[01:07] <Mez> their auto-reply is bouncing
[01:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #84517 in rosetta "Saving a translation equal to the original English sometimes doesn't works" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/84517
[02:57] <schizoschaf> hi. I have created a gpg key for launchpad. I dont know how to find out  'key-id' for 'gpg --send-key key-id'
[02:58] <Gwaihir> schizoschaf: use `gpg --list-keys' and the check the output
[02:59] <schizoschaf> Gwaihir, i did. i tried everything from that output
[03:00] <schizoschaf> Gwaihir, it worked now. thanks
[03:00] <Gwaihir> ok! ;)
[06:42] <gesslar> on the launchpad website, there's a specific translation i want to suggest an alternate for but there are 2225 results for this application. is there a better way to find it than just to click page to page of 223 pages looking for a specific item?
[06:44] <mdke_> gesslar: not really, at the moment.
[06:46] <mdke_> you can try downloading the po file and searching for it in your text editor
[06:46] <gesslar> i got that
[06:46] <gesslar> but i don't know what to do with it
[06:46] <mdke_> yeah
[06:46] <mdke_> if you're not a translator for that particular application, you can't upload it again
[06:47] <mdke_> you could get in touch with the relevant translation group and ask them to upload your change
[06:47] <gesslar> it looks like someone used babel to translate something and ...it just sounds weird to me
[06:47] <gesslar> hehe
[06:50] <gesslar> thanks for your help, mdke_
[06:51] <mdke_> ok
[06:57] <gesslar> woohoo!
[06:58] <gesslar> found it!


[03:14] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[05:46] <marcoagpinto> Heya
[06:46] <ducasse> good morning
[23:05] <tomreyn> https://gist.github.com/tomreyn/8d7675840d7bc7389b32e4d8887ca449
[23:05] <tomreyn> I drafted this piece yesternight because it's a rather common support topic these days and i noted i'm too lazy to explain it every time
[23:06] <sarnold> heh I don't recall seeing LTSE before
[23:06] <tomreyn> feel free to reuse and improve upon as you seem fit. it's certainly far from perfect - i hope it's not wrong
[23:07] <tomreyn> ltse was mentioned on ubuntu.com for a while. i searched for it yesterday, but could not longer find it
[23:07] <sarnold> hmm. maybe I'm just going senile..
[23:07] <sarnold> I hand out *this* link all the time https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[23:07] <tomreyn> more likely, i'll be
[23:08] <sarnold> I've always hated the name of this thing
[23:08] <tomreyn> hmm i think i got senile and that's what i really meant
[23:10] <tomreyn> so it's probably always been s/Evolution/Enablement/ and I just made this up
[23:11] <tomreyn> (still a terible name, if less so ;-) )
[23:12] <sarnold> tomreyn: having both GA -> LTS and LTS -> GA commands on one page is going to be so helpful :)
[23:13] <tomreyn> this was what i wanted initially, but then i realized i also need to explains those acronyms. and that this is just for LTS, and that that is another acronym, and ...
[23:14] <tomreyn> you mean GA -> HWE and HWE -> GA, right? :-P
[23:14] <tomreyn> or LTSE?
[23:14] <tomreyn> :)
[23:15] <tomreyn> because LTSE is really the short term supported kernel and maybe X and maybe more
[23:16] <tomreyn> (compared to GA)
[23:16] <sarnold> tomreyn: hah yeah I meant HWE .. sheesh.
[23:17] <tomreyn> :)


[15:53] <MarkDude> imbrandon, pingy
[15:54] <imbrandon> MarkDude: heya
[15:54] <imbrandon> MarkDude: i gots rpm for you today :)
[15:54] <imbrandon> fought with it all day friday :)
[15:55] <MarkDude> You ROCK sir
[15:55] <imbrandon> heh, well i'm sure they can be much improved by a real rpm packager, but they function
[15:55] <imbrandon> :)
[15:55] <MarkDude> It will take me a bit to run by the folks I need to show it
[15:56] <imbrandon> used a shiney fedora HPCloud instance to try it out
[15:56] <MarkDude> No stress
[15:56] <imbrandon> no worries, i was gonna toss it in a git repo on github, will that work for you ?
[15:56] <MarkDude> one would have to assume that RPM is really a good thing to package, but, I digress
[15:56] <MarkDude> Yes it would work great
[15:56] <imbrandon> heh
[15:58] <imbrandon> kk i'll do that then here in a few ( right in the middle of something ) then ping ya on irc or email if your afk the exact url for it ,but it will be under my username bholtsclaw e.g. http://github.com/bholtsclaw/some-proj-name
[15:58] <MarkDude> maybe call it:Distros-holding-hands
[15:59] <imbrandon> btw , talked to my next ex-wife lately ? heh
[15:59] <imbrandon> hahah good name
[15:59] <imbrandon> :)
[15:59] <MarkDude> or We-areALLon-theSAMEteam
[15:59] <imbrandon> :P
[15:59] <MarkDude> or in a tip to Ubuntu's early name Project-noname
[16:00] <imbrandon> noname.com
[16:00] <imbrandon> i think that redirs to ubuntu.com now
[16:01]  * imbrandon checks
[16:04] <imbrandon> ahh it was http://www.no-name-yet.com/ but it dont
[16:04] <imbrandon> 404