[19:16] <WrkWatchr> has anyone else experienced network problems after routine pkg updates?
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg: kde doesnt use gnome so may work
[19:16] <reisio> heh
[19:17] <mfaroukg> ActionParsnip, I wish
[19:17] <reisio> IsmAvatar: that it's using your card
[19:17] <brontosaurusrex> WrkWatchr, someone reported that 3 lucid servers got problems, i dont recall details (today)
[19:17] <WrkWatchr> I lost 4 at once...no clue how to fix
[19:18] <IsmAvatar> reisio: ok. I kinda assumed so, because otherwise, the display probably wouldn't turn on. So why's glxgears running at 55 fps? I've seen chipsets do better than that..
[19:19] <japro> hmm, i have installed a windows on the second HD
[19:19] <japro> the first one is a SSD
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg: i jumped to lxde and kde long ago. Not had an issue. Sidesteps the gnome debarkle
[19:19] <japro> the ubuntu installer now says " not detected operating systems"
[19:20] <agentgasmask> Hi all. I'm trying to install sun-java, does anyone know what the current package is called? google comes up with sun-java-6-jre  but apt-get says it isn't available.
[19:21] <japro> so i don't really dare to just have ubuntu auto install and possibly damage the windows install
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> agentgasmask: its not packaged
[19:21] <lordjj> look in synaptic
[19:21] <japro> what partitions do i have to create manually?
[19:21] <xangua> agentgasmask: openjdk should be enought, really want oracle/sun java¿¿
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> agentgasmask: oracle changed the licensing and don't want their java product packaged
[19:21] <japro> i suppose i need a /boot and / on the ssd and /usr on the hd?
[19:22] <lordjj> what's sun-jav6-jre then?
[19:22] <glebihan> lordjj, an old package that isn't in the repos anymore
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> japro: /usr is fine on ssd. Keep /var /tmp and swap on the platter based drive.
[19:23] <agentgasmask> Ok, Thanks all.
[19:23] <Mike9863> Certain applications are using different theme settings for some reason. Here is an example: http://i.imgur.com/DMbSl.png In the first image, the file menu and menu bar look different from the second image. Is there anyway I can make them consistent?
[19:24] <japro> ActionParsnip, any advice on how big i should make stuff?
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Japro: also put your browser cache on in tempfs
[19:24] <JetBoyJetGirl> would anyone happen to know if there is a way in Ubuntu 10.10 to set all wireless networks to not auto-connect without having to click on each network & uncheck the auto-connect box
[19:25] <glebihan> Mike9863, if an application overrides theme settings, there's nothing you can do (unless you want to go into the application's code)
[19:25] <Urchin> what's the replacement for fsview in Ubuntu 10.04?
[19:25] <japro> 40gb root and 80gb /usr on ssd and the rest on the HD
[19:25] <japro> does that sound reasonable?
[19:25] <WrkWatchr> Thanks Bronto...Guess I will keep looking
[19:25] <xangua> Mike9863: pidgin still ises gtk2
[19:25] <danub> what is the program that converts dos files to unix files?
[19:26] <Pici> danub: tofrodos
[19:26] <danub> i thought it was dos2unix, but that isn't available/installed
[19:26] <wonderworld> hi, i wanto to customize some nautilus settings as in older versions with the -gtkrc-2.0 file. nautilus3 doesn't seem to honor my changes. where would i do such changes in current ubuntu?
[19:26] <danub> thats that it was, thank you Pici
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Japro: 10gb /, 1xRam for swap (assuming more than 2gb Ram). Rest for /home. I'd personally put /home on the platter too
[19:26] <RiXtEr-home> dmb__
[19:26] <RiXtEr-home> dmb, you there.
[19:26] <japro> ActionParsnip, thnkx
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> japro: depending on use. A normal desktop user will be fine with that :)
[19:27] <obert> well.i try once again: how to change the launcher toolbar from to be hidden on the left of screen to be positioned fixed at bottom of it,please?
[19:28] <japro> 16 hmm, do i want swap on the SSD or the HD? I have 16gb ram, so i assume there won't be a whole lot of swapping going on anyway and SSD space is precious?
[19:28] <sskniranjan> obert: via combiz
[19:28] <RiXtEr-home> dmb, downgrading my kernel fixed my opengl coppyness.
[19:28] <BangBusRUs> Is there a way to set the top bar at the bottom of my screen? 11.10
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> Obert: unity launcher bar isn't movable presently
[19:28] <Mike9863> xangua: I was using GNOME Shell before I switched back to Compiz, and in GNOME Shell Pidgin did not have this issue.
[19:28] <IsmAvatar> I have an ATI radeon x1300, but glxgears is running at 55 fps. I think the driver's not installed right. Can someone help me get it installed right?
[19:28] <obert> aka?
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> japro: probably wont need swap unless you want hibernate
[19:29] <obert> sskniranjan: no combiz here. ActionParsnip: no idea
[19:29] <ModusPwnens> Can someone tell me if there is a risk for race-conditions when running scripts in /etc/rc0.d? What I mean to say is, does ubuntu make sure all those scripts finish before initiating shutdown?
[19:29] <japro> so i guess i can put it on the Hd then
[19:29] <Prophet> I need help trying to install Linux onto a laptop. When ever I put the disk in and linux loads up the lighting on the laptop turns off and prevents me from being able to see anything without using a flashlight on the screen. Is there a way to fix this?
[19:29] <sskniranjan> obert:actually the launcher can't be moved as it was the case with the dock in the windows
[19:30] <RiXtEr-home> IsmAvatar, i was having a similar issue with nvidia, downgraded the kernel to 2.6.38-12-generic and my fps got a whole bunch better.
[19:30] <danub> any reason why i shouldn't upgrade? im on 10.10 currently. using a netbook.
[19:30] <obert> sskniranjan: get it fixed at least?
[19:30] <danub> will i be forced to use unity or can i still have kde/gnome/flux?
[19:30] <ModusPwnens> danub: didn't they remove gnome in the latest ubuntu?
[19:30] <RiXtEr-home> IsmAvatar, I wouldn't recomend doing that though.
[19:30] <sskniranjan> i couldn't undersyand ur statement
[19:30] <Um_cara_qualquer> bonjour folks... does anybody here uses "conky"?
[19:30] <iceroot> danub: never touch a running system
[19:30] <RiXtEr-home> rixter@therix:~$ glxgears
[19:30] <RiXtEr-home> 18930 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3785.980 FPS
[19:31] <IsmAvatar> RiXtEr-home: I think that's overkill. All I need to do is install the driver, but I haven't found anywhere that shows how to do it
[19:31] <iceroot> ModusPwnens: gnome2 was replaced with gnome3
[19:31] <Pici> IsmAvatar: There are no proprietary drivers for that card, you'll need to use the open source 'radeon' drivers.
[19:31] <zykotick9> RiXtEr-home, 52380 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10475.956 FPS
[19:31] <danub> lol this update is that screwed up iceroot?
[19:31] <RiXtEr-home> IsmAvatar, the 3.0 kernel that 11.10 uses has issues (clearly) but you can search around for fglrx (iirc)
[19:32] <iceroot> danub: no but why change something if there is everything fine?
[19:32] <sskniranjan> obert u can install compiz from software centre to customise ur launcer
[19:32] <Pici> RiXtEr-home: fglrx does not support the x1300
[19:32] <sskniranjan> lil bit
[19:32] <danub> latest and greatest i suppose
[19:32] <obert> sskniranjan: i'll try that way then. thanks for clarifications
[19:32] <RiXtEr-home> Pici, ah... then radeon drivers.
[19:32] <obert> sskniranjan: this sounds a freakky setting anyway
[19:33] <obert>  i dont like this default setting
[19:33] <RiXtEr-home> I am getting better performance overall with the 2.6.x kernel here (IMO)
[19:33] <japro> hmm, ok i dont really get this, i now have partitions for / and /usr on the SSD and i want all the rest including /var and /tmp on the hd right? do i have to make extra partitions for those or can i just have som catchall partitions? and how do i set that up in the partitining tool
[19:33] <Guest62256> hello
[19:33] <IsmAvatar> How do I install the open source radeon driver? I'm assuming it's not supposed to be running glxgears at 55 fps
[19:34] <zykotick9> IsmAvatar, actually that "might" be matching your display refresh some how.  glxgears is a terrible benchmark - do you have working compiz or 3d games?
[19:35] <IsmAvatar> zykotick9: I was also benchmarking by fullscreen videos on youtube, which slowed to a crawl
[19:35] <warlock_handler> hi guys.. If I want to run a cron job... from 9am - 4pm, on Monday to friday for every 10 mins in an hour ..... is this the correct way? [19:36] <zykotick9> IsmAvatar, Flash doesn't use the graphics card - another poor test
[19:36] <Um_cara_qualquer> does anybody here uses "conky"?
[19:36] <IsmAvatar> not to mention significant tearing and such
[19:36] <zykotick9> !anyone | Um_cara_qualquer
[19:36] <RiXtEr-home> IsmAvatar, you might give this a try.
[19:36] <RiXtEr-home> IsmAvatar, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29
[19:37] <brontosaurusrex> Um_cara_qualquer, !ask
[19:37] <japro> should i have separate partitions for /var and /tmp ?
[19:37] <riffautae> japro: mount --bind will let you map one directory to another accross partitions, I dont know how to do that in the installer or from a gui
[19:37] <IsmAvatar> RiXtEr-home: trying that now
[19:37] <japro> riffautae, ok, so i can just create one big partition and then sort that out later
[19:38] <RiXtEr-home> IsmAvatar, scroll up and read that big red box.
[19:38] <riffautae> japro: yes though you'll prolly want to do it before yo urestart into the system
[19:38] <riffautae> japro: copy everything over to the catcll partition from inside the live cd then put the bind in your fstab
[19:39] <nww> rrr
[19:39] <IsmAvatar> RiXtEr-home: don't think that pertains to me. I didn't go to the Radeon website or anything. This is essentially a fresh install of Oneiric
[19:39] <zykotick9> japro, i don't have an SSD, but "personally" i'd but / on the SSD and SWAP and /home on your HD - a little easier.
[19:39] <ModusPwnens> does anyone know if init makes sure all the shutdown scripts complete before shutting down?
[19:39] <warlock_handler> If I want to run a cron job... from 9am - 4pm, on Monday to friday for every 10 mins in an hour ..... is this the correct way? [19:39] <RiXtEr-home> IsmAvatar, alright, just be aware that if your card won't run with the fglrx driver, you may end up with a cli system only
[19:39] <riffautae> japro: yea it would prolly be easier the other way around / on the ssd and then take /home and /var out onto the hdd
[19:40] <riffautae> japro: perhaps just make tmp a 'tmpfs' so its in ram
[19:40] <riffautae> japro: also you might set noatime or relatime on the ssd partitions
[19:40] <japro> so do i need the distinction between / and /usr on the ssd?
[19:40] <RiXtEr-home> japro, not if you do it the way riffautae suggests.
[19:41] <Travis-42_> after some period of time it seems like my notification area crashes and new app icons don't show up there. has anyone experienced this?
[19:41] <zykotick9> japro, that's up to you (and the different advice you've been given)
[19:41] <IsmAvatar> v_v
[19:41] <riffautae> japro: prolly not, if you make / on the ssd that will catch /usr /lib and others
[19:41] <slashuer> japro i would just do /   and  /home
[19:41] <riffautae> japro: be aware if you want /usr on the ssd you might as well put /lib there too
[19:41] <DrGamut2> why
[19:41] <DrGamut2> so stuff runs faster?
[19:41] <RiXtEr-home> i'd put /lib on there... nothing wrong with faster loading libraries
[19:42] <slashuer> japro do you have a ssd and an hdd
[19:42] <riffautae> DrGamut2: yes usr and lib are both important for the loading speed of programs
[19:42] <DrGamut2> k
[19:42] <japro> just that i get this right, if i put / on the ssd and /home on the hd, everything that isn't in home will end up on the SSD?
[19:42] <japro> slashuer, yes
[19:42] <riffautae> japro: yes
[19:42] <RiXtEr-home> japro, yep
[19:42] <zykotick9> japro, be sure to put SWAP on the HD!
[19:42] <riffautae> japro: yes listen to zykotick9 about swap
[19:42] <japro> zykotick9, that i already did
[19:42] <RiXtEr-home> indeed. :)
[19:43] <RiXtEr-home> longer life of your ssd
[19:43] <japro> so i guess i'll put / on the ssd, /home and /var on the hd
[19:43] <slashuer> japro if you want the solid state to last i would put /var /tmp and swap on the hdd
[19:43] <japro> what a reasonable sizes for var and tmp?
[19:44] <IsmAvatar> RiXtEr-home: if that happens, I'm doing a fresh install of oneiric and we'll be right back to where we started, minus a couple hours lost, so no biggy
[19:44] <RiXtEr-home> tmp normally doesn't require much hdd, var on the otherhand...
[19:44] <zykotick9> slashuer, i doubt there is a huge mount of write to /var and /tmp?  Why bother relocating those?
[19:44] <RiXtEr-home> IsmAvatar, just letting you know you may end up with a hosed system ;)
[19:44] <riffautae> zykotick9: logs are in /var
[19:44] <slashuer> yeah i guess
[19:45] <zykotick9> riffautae, good point!  sorry slashuer - you make a good point ;)
[19:45] <RiXtEr-home> zykotick9, yeah constant writing there.
[19:45] <riffautae> zykotick9: caches and such as well
[19:45] <IsmAvatar> you'd think I'd be used to it by now v_v
[19:45]  * RiXtEr-home is afk.
[19:46] <saintbasil> Excuse me, anyone good with SED?
[19:46] <IsmAvatar> RiXtEr-home: I got stuck. "sudo: aticonfig: command not found"
[19:46] <riffautae>  /var is for long term runtime data, /tmp is for short term
[19:46] <japro>  /var on my laptop is like 500mb
[19:46] <zykotick9> saintbasil_, i know the #bash people ususally are ;)
[19:46] <slashuer> my /var is 4gb
[19:46] <brontosaurusrex> var can also hold /www, which can be huge, but i guess that wont happen
[19:46] <riffautae> japro: you could just make /tmp a tmpfs, ubuntu clears /tmp every boot anyway
[19:47] <saintbasil_> zykotick9: ty
[19:47] <riffautae> japro: that means it is not a disk partition but instead in ram
[19:47] <japro> well, since it's on the hdd i guess i can make it like 20gb and not worry about it
[19:47] <japro>  /var i mean
[19:47] <riffautae> japro: haha that is a bit exessive let me check all the machines i have access to to see how much they use
[19:48] <brontosaurusrex> japro, id go with about 2 gigs (blindly)
[19:48] <slashuer> well you should not have much problems insept on updates becausse /var/apt/cache
[19:48] <slashuer> all the software on your computer downloads to here
[19:48] <JetBoyJetGirl> how does one disable auto-connecting to wireless networks on ubuntu 10.10 without actually disabling wireless?
[19:49] <riffautae> brontosaurusrex: right now on this machine i am using i have 1gb and on an ubuntu server there is 512mb
[19:49] <riffautae> brontosaurusrex: used
[19:49] <brontosaurusrex> riffautae, so 2 gigs is reasonable i guess
[19:50] <cablop> riffautae: what is your question?
[19:50] <riffautae> japro: yea so 2->4gb is prolly fine
[19:50] <slashuer> jetboyjetgirl  right click network and click on your connt¥ection type and then click edit and unselect auto connect
[19:50] <riffautae> cablop: ? i dont have one
[19:50] <cablop> lol
[19:50] <zykotick9> japro, until you try to upgrade to the next release ;)
[19:50] <cablop> then what is 2 gb enough
[19:50] <riffautae> cablop: well sorta, we are trying to figure out how big to make /var
[19:51] <brontosaurusrex> cablop, the question is how to partition a new install with ssd and normal hd disks
[19:51] <cablop> riffautae: it depends, var holds things like webpages if you use apache and tomcat servers and also databases,so for web development 2 gb is probably too few
[19:52] <japro> i use it for desktop stuff and non-web-development
[19:52] <brontosaurusrex> cablop, yes, but the www can be set somewhere else as well
[19:52] <cablop> did anyone tested that btrfs?
[19:52] <bdrewery> anyone know a workaround for this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/803943
[19:52] <riffautae> cablop: however that can all be relocated
[19:52] <cablop> brontosaurusrex: not that true, because security is managed by aparmor to move things like mysql databases is aPITA
[19:52] <zykotick9> bdrewery, don't use unity ;)
[19:52] <riffautae> cablop: especially if he has a catch all partition for data on the hdd
[19:53] <japro> right now i have / on ssd, /var on hdd and /home on hdd
[19:53] <riffautae> cablop: just make a www and db folder on his hd partition and tell them to use that
[19:53] <cablop> riffautae: or partition the thing using LVM
[19:54] <cablop> by the way
[19:54] <brontosaurusrex> cablop, your cms or whatever databases are over a gig ?
[19:54] <riffautae> japro: another option for the hdd is make a partition and mount it to like /space then make a var and home subfolder
[19:54] <riffautae> japro: then use a bind to map them to root
[19:54] <riffautae> japro: then you have tons of space and dont have to worry
[19:55] <japro> i guess i'll try like this, nothing too fancy :D
[19:55] <cablop> nope, but if you are using the machine for webdevelopment you are going to need things like a subversion|git|bazaar repository, plus dev, test, user acceptance environments, and so on
[19:55] <cablop> and if you develop in thins like tomcat, you are going to reach the 1GB SO fast
[19:55] <riffautae> japro: are you going to tmpfs /tmp ?
[19:55] <riffautae> japro: you might be able to do that in the installer
[19:55] <japro> yep, but i'll first have to google how to do that
[19:56] <brontosaurusrex> cablop, he will not
[19:56] <cablop> anyone using btrfs?
[19:56] <japro> in the partitioning tool I don't see an option for tmpfs
[19:56] <riffautae> japro: ok i wasnt sure
[19:56] <slashuer> any one here a software developer?
[19:56] <riffautae> slashuer: i imagine there are a few around >.>
[19:57] <twirm> slashuer, I am
[19:57] <japro> slashuer, sort, of, depends on what kind of development
[19:57] <slashuer> i am also a software developer
[19:58] <RiXtEr-home> IsmAvatar, did  sudo dpkg -i fglrx*.deb complete?
[19:58] <brontosaurusrex> ok, my /var/lib/mysql is holding 22megs of data (several wordpress. joomla and whatnot installs...)
[19:58] <japro> not sure if i'm allowed to already call myself that... i'm still studying and my "work" is mostly for academic hpc stuff
[19:58] <slashuer> right now i'm trying to get libclang to work with my program to parse
[19:58] <slashuer> C++ code
[19:58] <brontosaurusrex> nope, actually 37 megs
[19:59] <twirm> slashuer, Sorry, I don't know much about libclang
[20:00] <riffautae> slashuer: prolly want to go to a dev #room
[20:00] <cablop> i am developer also, but... what specifically
[20:00] <riffautae> slashuer: or #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:00] <cablop> slashuer: a channel of c++ but unsure if #c++ soes exist
[20:00] <cablop> *does
[20:00] <slashuer> sorry off topic
[20:01] <go8765{off|away}> hello. I have little question: if some online skanner scan my compyter for opened ports, that I close with iptables and show that this porst is open? what does this mean? p.s. I go in internet under provider NAT. Does this mean that open ports is in provider machine?
[20:01] <systemclient> is there some autostart directory for gnome/unity so that I can just throw some shell scripts in there?
[20:01] <twirm> cablop, it's a haskell lib he needs help with
[20:01] <japro> o...k... skype just went to 100% cpu for now apparent reason
[20:01] <twirm> slashuer, #haskell (if it exists)
[20:02] <slashuer> 948 files are open in /var
[20:02] <RiXtEr-home> haskell exists.
[20:02] <riffautae> go8765: your router is the likely culpret
[20:02] <RiXtEr-home> err #haskell does.
[20:02] <riffautae> go8765: or even the modem
[20:02] <japro> seriously, wtf, skype brought my cpu temp to 75°C...
[20:03] <japro> not even linpack does that
[20:03] <cablop> twirm: sigh, pretty hardcore, haskell + c++
[20:04] <go8765> riffautae: what does mean "culpret" ?
[20:04] <riffautae> japro: :o it crashed
[20:04] <IsmAvatar> RiXtEr-home: yes
[20:04] <riffautae> go8765: the thing that has the open port. its probably what is responsible for your issue
[20:04] <riffautae> go8765: also i spelled it wrong
[20:04] <japro> riffautae, so i guess if i ever overclock something i will cash skype on it to see if the cpu stays stable :D
[20:05] <riffautae> japro: ha
[20:05] <cablop> mmm
[20:05] <cablop> 256 MB too much for /boot?
[20:05] <primeras> hi. i using ubuntu 11.10. how to changing unity to gnome classic "with console"?
[20:05] <darius> Hello, acn someone help me with wine?
[20:05] <darius> can*
[20:05] <primeras> sorry my english isn't very well
[20:06] <go8765> riffautae: sorry... english not my native - can you simply explain - is this pors my or provider?
[20:06] <darius> I want to run some windows programs but I don't know how to use WINE.
[20:06] <riffautae> cablop: no since most distros dont remove old kernel packages
[20:06] <riffautae> cablop: they will pile up
[20:06] <cablop> sigh
[20:06] <brontosaurusrex> go8765, yours, provider should have all ports open (i think)
[20:06] <cablop> ok, then 256
[20:06] <japro> darius, you can pretty much just set the exec bit and doubleclick them
[20:06] <cablop> and manual clean up from time to time
[20:07] <go8765> brontosaurusrex: and what about NAT ?
[20:07] <brontosaurusrex> go8765, it might be a router set to certain other machine in your network?
[20:07] <go8765> brontosaurusrex: I am under NAT
[20:07] <cablop> in your opinion what is best
[20:07] <riffautae> go8765: you probably have a device at your house that directs internet from your provider into your computers, that is what may have open ports
[20:07] <darius> japro, it attempts to open, it shows it trying to on the unity dock, then it just goes away and nothing happens. This with ALL .exe files.
[20:07] <slashuer> 地用なら
[20:08] <cablop> ext3 on top of LVM on top of dm-crypt
[20:08] <brontosaurusrex> go8765, yes, then it might be some other machine returning xyz port request
[20:08] <japro> darius, try running from the console "wine ./myprogram" or somilar
[20:08] <cablop> ext3 on top of dm-crypt, and multiple partitions...
[20:08] <japro> that should tell you more about the why's
[20:08] <dwarder> hello
[20:09] <dwarder> is there a way to prevent ubuntu from syncing with time server?
[20:09] <darius> japro, like say it's on the desktop I do. "wine /Desktop/minecraft.exe"?
[20:09] <japro> darius, i guess so
[20:09] <brontosaurusrex> go8765, ubuntu shouldnt have any ports open by default i think
[20:09] <japro> in the worst case it will tell you that it doesn't work :D
[20:09] <BangBusRUs> Hey is there a way to move the bar on the top?
[20:09] <go8765> riffautae: now I use dial-up internet - about what devise you said ? :)
[20:09] <darius> japro, when I do that nothing happens, I get no output from terminal either.
[20:09] <danslo> BangBusRUs: nope, at least not without unity plugins
[20:10] <brontosaurusrex> BangBusRUs, the top is menu/info area
[20:10] <BangBusRUs> I want to move it down
[20:10] <slashuer> for working with wine i would recamend Q4Wine
[20:10] <riffautae> go8765: oh i see, then if you have iptables or some firewall set up then it is likely your provider causing the ports to be open
[20:10] <danslo> BangBusRUs: same thing. not possible without plugins
[20:10] <japro> darius, i hope minecraft was only an example :D
[20:10] <VSpike> Anyone got a clue why when I start byobu I get a brief message saying "Sorry, screen was compiled without -DDEBUG option"
[20:10] <brontosaurusrex> BangBusRUs, there was hack on google, let me find it
[20:10] <japro> you can run that perfectly fine on linux without the windows version
[20:11] <cablop> does nowadays puting the swap in another hard disk really improve performance?
[20:11] <riffautae> darius: yea you can run minecraft 'native' on linux
[20:11] <darius> Yes, I use the .jar for that. I'm trying to install Diablo II and world craft.
[20:11] <llutz> cablop: no
[20:11] <brontosaurusrex> BangBusRUs, http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher
[20:11] <darius> warcraft i mean
[20:11] <darius> Although minecraft does not work at all on this computer.
[20:11] <riffautae> cablop: i never do, the os doesnt usualy thrash since ram is so cheap
[20:12] <azert> hello there
[20:12] <azert> i just connect an usb pen on my pc
[20:12] <azert> from cli how to locate my pendrive ?
[20:13] <riffautae> azert: ls /media   or try /mnt
[20:13] <go8765> riffautae: so its possible - when I scan ports in online servese - in results see ports of some_device/provider_machine what I use to go in internet ?
[20:13] <darius> It should show up on your unity dock if its mounted.
[20:13] <azert> there is no file on my pendrive riffautae
[20:13] <bekks> azert: "df -h" should show it.
[20:13] <slashuer> ok bye every one
[20:13] <riffautae> azert: is it formatted/partitioned? if not you will have to do that
[20:13] <azert> it is formatted in fat32
[20:13] <riffautae> go8765: yes if your isp is a jerk that might happen
[20:14] <wildbat> !mount > azert , if df-h didn't show it you have to mount it.
[20:14] <riffautae> azert: does the following line show anything (do NOT post the results!)? dmesg | grep "New USB"
[20:15] <llutz> azert: if it isn't automounted: "sudo fdisk -l" check what partition it is. then "sudo mount  -o uid=1000,umask=007 /dev/sdXY /mnt"
[20:15] <darius> Does anyone here know anything about Minecraft? It will not connect to minecraft.net to let me sign in
[20:15] <riffautae> darius: sometimes minecraft.net goes down, if you can access other sites try again later
[20:16] <riffautae> darius: the login server on minecraft that is
[20:16] <ubuntun00b> can someone tell me how to change my machine's domain name? Currently it is jon@studio-xps-1640, and I would like it to be something a little easier to type
[20:16] <zykotick9> !hostname | ubuntun00b
[20:16] <bekks> ubuntun00b: Thats your host name, not your domain name.
[20:16] <darius> It works fine on all of my other computers, it's just this one that won't connect and it's always been lke this since day one
[20:16] <go8765> riffautae: I (and google translate) dont understand what does mean "jerk" :) can you explain plese?
[20:16] <ubuntun00b> ok thanks peoplez
[20:17] <reisio> IsmAvatar: you seen _that_ chip do better?
[20:17] <riffautae> go8765: haha it was a joke, I just meant that they were mean to do that
[20:18] <azert> ok thanks all
[20:18] <matyy> Hey, flash sometimes, I cannot reproduce it, freezes my computer. I can’t find anything on google, because there are thousands of crashes with flash. The screen flickers a few time, than everything is frozen – music continues tough. I can’t even use CTRL+ALT+F1 to change to a terminal... any ideas? Ideas what I could search for?
[20:18] <riffautae> darius: that is odd
[20:18] <riffautae> darius: can you ping minecraft.net?
[20:18] <brontosaurusrex> ubuntun00b, or/and make an alias
[20:18] <darius> yes i can
[20:19] <go8765> riffautae: so... its to hard for me anyway undertand - is this my ports was open or not...
[20:19] <riffautae> go8765: yes that is why
[20:19] <cablop> i need to encrypt the disk, for performance issues i am not sure if go for just one encrypted partition, then LVM on top, then filesystems on top or to go for multiple encrypted partitions with filesystems on top of that... the reason is one year ago, dm-crypt just spawned one thread per block device no matter what creating a bottleneck... any idea, suggestion or knowledge?
[20:20] <riffautae> cablop: i'd prolly do one encry partition with lvm but i have not benchmarked it
[20:20] <riffautae> cablop: its what i have on my laptop
[20:20] <cablop> and how is performance?
[20:21] <brontosaurusrex> riffautae, why do you need lvm on laptop ? (just courious)
[20:21] <cablop> i had that on a netbook, i had to use many partitions... to spawn a process per block device, vitual machines and swap were making of it a real bottleneck
[20:21] <riffautae> cablop: i didnt notice any drops but i didnt get to play with it much. compiles and such never had an issue
[20:22] <darius> I'm trying to install the .exe with Q4WINE and it says wow.exe finished for prefix:"Default". Exit code is:"0"
[20:22] <riffautae> brontosaurusrex: i didnt really see a better way to put multiple partitions on a dm-crypt block device
[20:22] <go8765> riffautae: sorry... that is why - what? I cant translate it correct... what you mean? is this ports my or provider ? how I can understand this?
[20:22] <riffautae> darius: which java are you ising
[20:22] <MarcosAraujo> Hi!!
[20:22] <riffautae> go8765: I think it is your provider
[20:23] <darius> For the Q4Wine or Minecraft?
[20:23] <riffautae> darius: as in, sun/orical or the openjdk
[20:23] <darius> Sun
[20:23] <darius> I have both versions though.
[20:23] <riffautae> darius: hm dunno then
[20:24] <riffautae> darius: well double check that it is executing with the sun one, the openjdk one isnt really supported and sometimes acts weird
[20:24] <Hapz> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages
[20:24] <Hapz>   404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[20:24] <Hapz> what do i do about this
[20:24] <Hapz> (new to ubuntu)
[20:24] <riffautae> darius: i tried running a server with it but switched to the sun one and it was fine
[20:24] <FloodBot1> Hapz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:24] <riffautae> Hapz: can you reach google and such?
[20:25] <Hapz> yes.
[20:25] <go8765> riffautae: thanks! спасибо :)
[20:26] <riffautae> go8765: your welcome
[20:26] <Hapz> riffautae also 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=109 ms
[20:27] <riffautae> Hapz: 404 means their web server isnt giving you the page actually, something is wrong with that mirror
[20:27] <brontosaurusrex> probably jaunty is not supported anymore
[20:27] <Hapz> riffautae how do i turn to another mirror
[20:28] <friskd> Hey all, i just installed Ubuntu on a rackspace cloud server. I install ubunut-desktop and gdm
[20:29] <friskd> But i can't access the internet from the server.
[20:29] <friskd> also i can't do pings when i ssh into it..
[20:30] <friskd> These are my iptable configuations: http://fpaste.org/TUNJ/
[20:30] <cablop> any known issue of using a symlink to set the /home in another place like/home->/other_partition/home ???
[20:30] <friskd> Why might i not be able to connect to the internet
[20:30] <lauratika> how to change themes in ubuntu 11.10 seems i cant change from gnome to anything else... help!
[20:31] <arash> At occasions all windows disappear, so I see my wallpaper. ~5 seconds later the windows all reappear, but they get totally rearranged across different workspaces!! Which logs could give me a clue? This happened even before with 11.04, Now I run 11.10.
[20:31] <Hapz> riffautae any idea then?
[20:32] <rhizmoe> how can i run gedit2 on oneiric?
[20:32] <dikidera> I like the control panel
[20:32] <dikidera> but how can i find the old System drop down menu?
[20:32] <rhizmoe> cablop: no. historically it's been common to symlink /home -> /usr/home/
[20:32] <dikidera> so i can like launch system monitor
[20:32] <riffautae> Hapz: you should update to a newer linux, that one does not get security fixes anymore.
[20:32] <riffautae> Hapz: in the mean time...
[20:33] <riffautae> Hapz: replace archive.ubuntu.com with old-releases.ubuntu.com in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:33] <go8765> dikidera: try top or htop
[20:33] <llutz> cablop: better to use bind-mounts or just mount /home from different partition
[20:33] <iceroot> i want to add a dependency to "lubuntu-meta" but i dont get the logic from that package, inside debian/control there is just Depends: ${germinate:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}
[20:33] <Hapz> riffautae can you tell me the whole line/content of that file should be?
[20:33] <trism> lauratika: install gnome-tweak-tool to change the themes
[20:33] <riffautae> cablop: other then you cant use symnlinks across partitions, i dont think so
[20:33] <cablop> llutz: how does bind-mounts work?
[20:34] <go8765> dikidera: or try cardapio. if I right understood you
[20:34] <riffautae> Hapz: sorry you have to replace ALL instances of the first string with the second one in the file yourself. its not just one line
[20:34] <llutz> cablop: mount -o bind /existing/derectory /newmountpoint
[20:34] <llutz> directory*
[20:34] <cablop> riffautae: yes they work, but they are just softlinks, if the target dissapears you end with a wrong symlink
[20:34] <riffautae> Hapz: you could use gedit and search replaces if you dont know vim
[20:34] <lauratika> also why i cant see cryptkeeper icon in unity??
[20:34] <Hapz> i know vim. i messed with that file trying to fix this already
[20:35] <riffautae> cablop: oh i see
[20:35] <dikidera> what is cardapio?
[20:35] <trism> iceroot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement
[20:35] <cablop> llutz: then... mount -o bind /other_partition/home /home , right?
[20:35] <go8765> dikidera: try to googl it :)
[20:35] <teage> Hi, How do I get my desktop file system icons back? like when I plug a usb in the icon used to show on my desktop. im using Lucid. thanks
[20:35] <riffautae> Hapz try this including the ':' while in command mode->   :%s/archive.ubuntu.com/old-releases.ubuntu.com/g
[20:36] <Hapz> riffautae ... i know vim. i messed with that file trying to fix this already
[20:36] <go8765> dikidera: and higlight - if you asked something :)
[20:36] <llutz> cablop: yes, but as i said, just mount complete /home from that other partition without bind
[20:36] <Hapz> and i replaced its content.
[20:36] <lauratika> trism: but im using uinity
[20:36] <riffautae> Hapz: if you did that, then run apt-get update and it should pull down the new repo info
[20:36] <trism> lauratika: yes, but unity uses the same gsettings keys for the themes
[20:37] <go8765> dikidera: https://launchpad.net/cardapio
[20:37] <cablop> llutz, this is the question, how to not to waste the space on the /home partition
[20:37] <asslowashell> how do i install a package that is available for "lucid" but not in "hardy" -- I'm using hardy
[20:37] <trism> lauratika: you can also use dconf-editor, but it is a bit of work to track down all the keys
[20:37] <lauratika> trism: know why but i cant change icons
[20:37] <dikidera> To be honest
[20:37] <Mike9863> Back in GNOME 2, certain aspects of themes could be changed such as the color with the Theme Manager. How can I go about doing this in GNOME 3?
[20:37] <Hapz> riffautae should i re-set it to after i apt-get update?
[20:37] <dikidera> 11.10 is much more ram consuming and slow in general than 11.04
[20:38] <lauratika> gnome still on no matter which icon set i use gnome still there and it's quite horrible
[20:38] <bekks> Mike9863: Ask the gnome3 devs - the didnt implemented it.
[20:38] <portwolf> hi guys!
[20:38] <portwolf> I am trying to setup my IPOD Nano 5th generation (8GB)
[20:38] <Mike9863> bekks: I asked #gnome, but i haven't gotten a response.
[20:38] <portwolf> I am using banshee to sync my msic, but that somhow doesnt wokr
[20:38] <go8765> dikidera: try openbox :)
[20:39] <dikidera> i'd prefer something as lite as openbox
[20:39] <dikidera> oops
[20:39] <llutz> cablop: you mean, you want to use that partition for more than just /home? in that case bind-mount would be a handy way
[20:39] <bekks> Mike9863: That doesnt change what I said ;)
[20:39] <dikidera> brain fart
[20:39] <dikidera> i meant xfce
[20:39] <portwolf> it shows, that the music is being synced, but the sync process never ends, so I just disconnect it (after hit "disconnect" in banshee)
[20:39] <trism> lauratika: the icon theme key is org.gnome.desktop.interface icon-theme (gsettings get/set can change it as well)
[20:39] <portwolf> but the music isnt being synced, ipod shows: no music
[20:39] <ederico> hello, I'm running 11.10 using Unity and I have a problem. Basically, apps aren't appearing in the dash, this doesn't always happen but I notice it has happened repeatedly. Is this a known problem and/or is there a solution?
[20:40] <portwolf> I am using ubuntu 11.04 here
[20:40] <cablop> llutz: yep, i want to archive files and hold some shared projects, but i know things like evolution or thunderbird will fill the /home just with the email copies, just to name one thing
[20:40] <cablop> llutz: can i use that bind in the fstab?
[20:40] <emmoss> what is the best way to install ubuntu 11* without a CD, USB or floppy?
[20:40] <cablop> emmoss: usb
[20:40] <ubuntu> hello to everyone
[20:41] <llutz> cablop: you can "/sourcedir /target none    bind    0 0"
[20:41] <lauratika> trsim: is this via terminal??
[20:41] <emmoss> cablop you didn't even read my question now did you?
[20:41] <dikidera> im installing programs
[20:41] <trism> lauratika: yes
[20:41] <dikidera> which i cant find
[20:41] <mjk5> hello to everyone i need some help with my wifi on ubuntu 11.10
[20:41] <lauratika> command not found
[20:41] <go8765> dikidera: so use xface or lxde :) this is not a problem :) nobody force you to use kde or unity or gnome3 :)
[20:42] <riffautae> Hapz: you mean to the old values? no you should update to a more recent ubuntu sorry.Your distro is no longer supported so you are not getting anymore software updates
[20:42]  * AKQJ10 deseja um excelente feriado.
[20:42] <trism> lauratika: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface icon-theme ubuntu-mono-dark;
[20:42] <dikidera> Right, but i've switched the topic long ago ;)
[20:42] <cablop> emmoss: lol i gave another meaning o that comma there, re-read it and it makes sense, you said with no CD, then between USB or floppy what is the best xD
[20:42] <dikidera> How do i find the system monitor?
[20:42] <llutz> emmoss: do you already have a running linux on that machine? yes, use debootstrap
[20:42] <berasa> anyone have an idea why changes to my filesystem might be getting rolled back after a reboot?
[20:42] <vulnerox> Is there a certain type of linux that WINE works better in?
[20:42] <cablop> emmoss: well, then can you put the disk in another computer?
[20:42] <vulnerox> like distro I mean
[20:42] <lauratika> trism: done, but icons wont change
[20:42] <bekks> berasa: Because you are not using a "real" computer but a virtual machine?
[20:43] <riffautae> vulnerox: 32bit distros might work better but other then that any major one should be fine
[20:43] <lauratika> do i have to restart
[20:43] <go8765> dikidera: try to print in terminal gnome-system-monitor
[20:43] <berasa> bekks: I am using a real computer.
[20:43] <cablop> if you can, then create a first partition, make it /boot place the iso on it, then adjust the gruo to launch the iso and voilá
[20:43] <cablop> emmoss:  if you can, then create a first partition, make it /boot place the iso on it, then adjust the gruo to launch the iso and voilá
[20:43] <go8765> dikidera: or try top or htop
[20:43] <trism> lauratika: is this unity-3d or 2d?
[20:43] <vulnerox> riffautae: is it neccessary to put an anti-virus on wine
[20:43] <lauratika> 3d
[20:43] <vulnerox> so that a virus does not attach your WINE
[20:44] <cablop> thanks llutz
[20:44] <trism> lauratika: I will go take a look, (you may just need to restart the session)
[20:44] <riffautae> vulnerox: no, most virii cant really do anything to wine
[20:44] <dikidera> go8765:ok that works
[20:44] <dikidera> but how do i make a shortcut of some sorts on the desktop?
[20:44] <lauratika> it is odd that icon wont change
[20:44] <mjk5> can someone help with wifi card keep disconnecting?
[20:44] <vulnerox> ok
[20:44] <lauratika> let me restart be back in a minute
[20:44] <cablop> ah, llutz, how does permissions work in that kind of mount? depending on the /sourcedir partition one, right?
[20:44] <vulnerox> I rememebr I once had wine
[20:45] <vulnerox> I installed a windows program and it suddenly stopped working'
[20:45] <vulnerox> all programs stopped working
[20:45] <Jilly> does anyone know why muon doesn't ask for my root password? It just complains that it can't update.
[20:45] <japro> can i have grub automatically detect other oses on other HDs?
[20:45] <graingert> emmoss: netboot
[20:45] <hilarie> Bleh, just bought a seagate goflex desk 2tb external HD, and it doesn't want to mount for me... any ideas? can't find any first step troubleshooting to do
[20:46] <bekks> japro: Grub does that by default.
[20:46] <go8765> dikidera: sorry, but I dont know - I use openbox now :)
[20:46] <japro> i have windows on the HD and ubuntu on the SSD and it didn't find the windows
[20:46] <riffautae> Jilly: I dont know what muon is but most software cant 'upgrade' themselves to have root access
[20:46] <riffautae> Jilly: even with the password
[20:46] <japro> bekks, apparently not, it at least didn't do it for me
[20:46] <sasori> hi, how to install ubuntu from a flash drive?...i have an ubuntu 64 bit in my flashdrive, when i booted my machine from usb, it did booted ubuntu..after that, i don't know what to do next in order to fully install ubuntu without using usb flashdrive again
[20:46] <cablop> japro: two options, if you can boot windows from the bios then do that, but in the other hand try sudo update-grub to see if it detects your windows disk
[20:46] <llutz> cablop you can change some things like ro/rw etc.
[20:46] <hilarie> sasori click install ubuntu on your desktop
[20:47] <lelamal_> Jilly: you'd be better off asking in #kubuntu
[20:47] <go8765> dikidera: may be in /usr/share/applications - you can find shourtcut and copy it where you want....
[20:47] <graingert> emmoss: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[20:47] <cablop> llutz ah, thanks
[20:47] <sasori> hilarie: is that an option from the usb booted ubuntu ?
[20:47] <hilarie> yar
[20:47] <sasori> ok...lemme try :)
[20:47] <graingert> sasori: there should be an icon on the desktop
[20:47] <hilarie> Install, its on your usb booted ubuntu desktop
[20:47] <graingert> saying install ubuntu
[20:47] <graingert> or similar
[20:48] <sasori> ok, rebooting now
[20:48] <graingert> (might be worth making that icon a mite biger)
[20:48] <graingert> sasori: ?
[20:48] <graingert> wait
[20:48] <graingert> sasori: are you on the live system now?
[20:48] <hilarie> Yeah, doesn't 11.10 get rid of that icon?
[20:48] <graingert> hilarie: nope afaik
[20:48] <sasori> yes im on a live system
[20:48] <graingert> sasori: you don't need to reboot
[20:49] <sasori> it's an 11.04 distro...
[20:49] <graingert> sasori: oh I see lol
[20:49] <graingert> sasori: okay, do you have anything else on the pc's disk?
[20:49] <graingert> any other OS?
[20:49] <hilarie> anyone? if the drive doesn't mount out of the box, return and try another brand?
[20:49] <graingert> you've backed up all your files/folder/wallet.dat's
[20:49] <go8765> dikidera: you find shortcut here ?
[20:50] <graingert> hilarie: depends is it an external drive
[20:50] <sasori> i have the iso file from the win7 os, before i placed it inside a flash drive
[20:50] <Jilly> lelamal_, thanks...I'll try in kubuntu
[20:50] <genii-around> hilarie: If the drive is fresh out of a box, it likely has no filesystem to mount as of yet.
[20:50] <seidell> hey how do i login
[20:50] <graingert> or is it a mass storage
[20:50] <hilarie> graingert: yes
[20:50] <sasori> ok, it not booted to ubuntu again
[20:50] <sasori> where will i see that desktop option?
[20:50] <hilarie> genii-around even for an external?
[20:50] <vulnerox> bit
[20:50] <sasori> ok i saw it :D
[20:50] <vulnerox> is there ubuntu 64 bot?
[20:50] <bekks> vulnerox: Yes.
[20:50] <graingert> hilarie: okay does it show up in gparted
[20:50] <vulnerox> ohh
[20:50] <hilarie> no :(
[20:50] <vulnerox> interestin
[20:50] <graingert> sasori: awesome
[20:50] <riffautae> sasori: after you installed did you remove the usb drive before rebooting? if you dont it will boot the usb drive instead
[20:51] <riffautae> sasori: or did i misread?
[20:51] <graingert> when it says "continue testing" that's a reference to portal2
[20:51] <emmoss> the ubuntu 11 sys req says I need 15GB, is the OS 15GB or is it just an recommendatation cause I have 16GB
[20:51] <sasori> currently installing..i just clicked the install ubuntu
[20:51] <sasori> ..but wait..will this automatically dual boot? or will it wipe out my win7 os ?
[20:51] <riffautae> sasori: it will ask what you want to do
[20:52] <sasori> kewl :D
[20:52] <graingert> emmoss: try a light version
[20:52] <w30> hilarie, I have a 1 tb goflex usb drive; no problems here except you have to install some stuff for mac and windows off the drive.
[20:52] <riffautae> emmoss: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[20:52] <graingert> emmoss: maybe lubuntu
[20:52] <Leao> These documents are not written for naabz. How can i change from FGLRX to Open source drivers ?
[20:52] <graingert> 16GB is high memory
[20:52] <graingert> :p
[20:52] <hilarie> w30  did it just mount for you?
[20:52] <emmoss> I have lots of space just one free partition with 16GB
[20:52] <japro> cablop, argh, there is something wrong anyway. it automatically boots to windows and i can't seem to change the boot order
[20:52] <riffautae> graingert: i think he means hard drive space
[20:53] <graingert> I know
[20:53] <w30> hilarie, Linux gives me no static, no troubles
[20:53] <riffautae> graingert: kk
[20:53] <graingert> but you linked to LowMem~1
[20:53] <cablop> japro: mmm weird, different disks or just one physical disk?
[20:53] <riffautae> graingert: it talks about low hdd space as well
[20:53] <graingert> emmoss: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[20:53] <w30> hilarie, yes
[20:53] <japro> different disks
[20:53] <meowsus> I have an external USB hard drive i use purely for RSYNC backups. I'm setting it up in /etc/fstab to not automatically mount, yada yada, but I'm curious if i should set SYNC or ASYNC on the device.
[20:53] <japro> according the the installers the one that ubuntu sits on is "HD0"
[20:53] <japro> or similar
[20:53] <bekks> meowsus: sync is much slower.
[20:53] <cablop> i think ext4 is not as reliable as ext3
[20:54] <cablop> what do you think?
[20:54] <hilarie> w30 its not even showing up in gparted, is there some specific drivers to download?
[20:54] <NvrBst> Hello.  Question if I may.  If I start a screen, and start a x11 program, exit the screen, and re-enter the screen.  Is there a way to attach to the x11 program that is still running?
[20:54] <bekks> cablop: Any proof for that?
[20:54] <japro> and the asus bios shows me these uefi things one is called ubuntu the other windows boot manager, but putting the "ubuntu" one first will still boot windows
[20:54] <meowsus> bekks, and because this is a permanently connected drive it shouldn't matter that i use ASYNC since i'm not going to be unplugging it right after an RSYNC command
[20:54] <meowsus> ... i assume
[20:54] <riffautae> meowsus: sync will reduce the chances of disconnect while mounted corrupting
[20:54] <cablop> they said that because they write in some asynchronous way then it could lead to data corruption because it said to the system, that data was written but i wasn't
[20:54] <riffautae> meowsus: if you are not going to disconnect it use async it will be faster
[20:55] <sasori> hey, the screen says, allocate drive space by dragging the divider below.."files(82.0GB) 165.3GB" .. "Ubuntu 86.2 GB" ..does that mean 86.2GB , what does 86.2GB mean ?
[20:55] <bekks> cablop: Who are "they"?
[20:55] <riffautae> meowsus: that means the OS has more time to sort commands before writing
[20:55] <cablop> bekks: users, testers, dunno, i remembered that was the big issue when it was launched
[20:55] <meowsus> riffautae, bekks, awesome thank you guys
[20:55] <bekks> cablop: Which is ages ago now.
[20:55] <cablop> bekks: anyway, any improvement by using it instead of ext3?
[20:55] <bekks> cablop: Yes. Much more performance.
[20:56] <tunisian_lover> bonsoir à tous
[20:56] <sasori> hey, the screen says, allocate drive space by dragging the divider below.."files(82.0GB) 165.3GB" .. "Ubuntu 86.2 GB" ..does that mean 86.2GB , what does 86.2GB mean ?
[20:57] <cablop> bekks: even on top of lvm on top of dm-crypt?
[20:57] <sasori> is 86.2GB the whole size of ubuntu ?
[20:57] <bdrewery> NvrBst: no
[20:57] <riffautae> sasori: you will get fussed at if you repeat yourself. I wont be able to tell you without a screen shot
[20:57] <japro> cablop, in the bios there is a "boot override" option that allows me to boot into ubuntu but i can't put that drive into the boot ordre -.-
[20:57] <bekks> cablop: I never messed with dmcrypt, since I am not paranoid enough ;)
[20:57] <sasori> riffautae: 1 sec..uploading a screenshot now
[20:57] <cablop> bekks: lol xD
[20:57] <tunisian_lover> where c i can found a french chat for ubunto ?
[20:58] <bekks> tunisian_lover: #ubuntu-fr
[20:58] <tunisian_lover> thx
[20:58] <occupant> So I'm in a three monitor setup and I can't seem to specify the position of the launcher. Everything I read says that it's supposed to follow whatever the primary display is, but mine is staying on the leftmost display (whatever display I configure to be left) instead of the primary. anyone know if I can override this somehow?
[20:58] <NvrBst> bdrewery: okay thanks
[20:58] <gigastress_> hello guys
[20:58] <friskd> Hey all i just installed ubuntu desktop and gdb on a rackspace cloud server and am now trying to run Firefox, and it can't connect to the internet.
[20:58] <friskd> Why might that be
[20:59] <gigastress_> is there anyone who can help me with lvm and lucid
[20:59] <riffautae> occupant: are you on gnome2 or unity
[20:59] <riffautae> friskd: does it have a static ip? if so you need to set the default gatewayu
[20:59] <sasori> riffautae: here it is http://i.imgur.com/26nOt.png what to do next ?
[20:59] <occupant> riffautae: unity
[20:59] <friskd> riffautae:  yes it has a static ip.
[21:00] <riffautae> sasori: the thing on the right is how much space for ubuntu, the thing on the left is how mouch it leaves for windows
[21:00] <friskd> riffautae:  i can't ping from the server either...
[21:00] <friskd> or wget
[21:00] <riffautae> sasori: ubuntu will make all its partitions in that 86.2gb space area
[21:00] <riffautae> friskd: can you ping things on the same subnet?
[21:00] <riffautae> the gateway will let you out of the subnet
[21:00] <sasori> how to alter the space ? because, when I clicked the "advancedpartitioning tool" link at the bottom, nothing is happening
[21:01] <gigastress_> is there anyone who can help me with lvm and lucid
[21:01] <friskd> riffautae:  not sure what to test pinging .
[21:01] <riffautae> sasori: if you drag the line between the two areas it will let you adjust it
[21:01] <gigastress_> cant login on full disk encryption
[21:01] <friskd> riffautae:  its just a rackspace cloud server.
[21:01] <sasori> riffautae: lol..awesome :D
[21:01] <viliny> Hello!
[21:01] <hilarie> sup
[21:01] <riffautae> friskd: you might send them an email and ask what network settings to use so that you server can access the internet. other wise you have to guess what the gateway IP is
[21:01] <gigastress_> hello!
[21:02] <sasori> riffautae: what's the usual size of an ubuntu distro ?
[21:02] <occupant> riffautae: thinking I should try something other than unity?
[21:02] <gigastress_> is there anyone who can help me with lvm and lucid, > cant login on full disk encryption
[21:02] <viliny> i just installed amd64 version of the ubuntu server software, i installed ubuntu-desktop and startx:ed myself to a desktop. Now im having trouble with mounting a internal 2TB HD thats on this machine, it tells me:  Unable to mount 2.0 TB Filesystem Not authorized
[21:02] <NvrBst> Another Question: Is there a method/program to let a x11 app run, but, also be able to exit SSH?  VNC best/only option?
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> occupant: or a differnet ubuntu fork
[21:03] <viliny> any ideas?
[21:03] <riffautae> sasori: you can go as small as 20 prolly but that wont leave much for your own files
[21:03] <sasori> ok cool...thanks riffautae  :)
[21:03] <bekks> viliny: Then try mounting it manually.
[21:03] <IRsee> viliny: by what method are you mounting the device?
[21:03] <riffautae> sasori: you could figure ou what the minimum you need for windows fiels in the future will be and give the rest to ubuntu if you reallyt like linux :)
[21:03] <sasori> i gave it 80GB :D
[21:04] <riffautae> sasori: nice
[21:04] <viliny> IRsee, not in any particular manner, trying to access it on what i believe is nautilus on this abomination that is unity
[21:05] <gigastress_> is there anyone who can help me with lvm and lucid, > cant login on full disk encryption
[21:05] <friskd> riffautae: could it be something more simple.  I can't even do pings or wget and that stuff normally just works after a basic rackspace install.
[21:05] <friskd> could installing ubuntu desktop and gdb have caused something to stop this.
[21:05] <IRsee> gigastress: Do you know the password to unlock the disk?
[21:05] <riffautae> friskd: run ifconfig and see if eth# has an ip
[21:05] <grampass0> 2
[21:06] <gigastress_> riffautee> yez I have I even see the pw prompt after mz upgrade to lucid, but i wont accept
[21:06] <friskd> riffautae:  it does
[21:06] <viliny> also, why is the user accounts utility completely useless with everything greyed out here in unity?
[21:06] <friskd> and i can ping the server from the outside.
[21:06] <friskd> riffautae:  both eth0 and eth1 have ipts.
[21:07] <friskd> *ip;s.
[21:07] <friskd> ! ip's.
[21:07] <bekks> friskd: "ips".
[21:07] <spacebug-> in oneiric when trying to use a keyboard sortcut to run "soffice mydocument.ods" it sometimes (like 50%) of the times does not appear in the dock and there for is not in my alt+tab list. This worked perfectly in natty. (the program always launched though with my file as expected).
[21:07] <riffautae> friskd: run 'route' there should be an entry with <IP_ADDRESS> as the gen mask
[21:08] <friskd> riffautae:  there is
[21:08] <riffautae> friskd: huh, weird
[21:08] <japro> ok, i looks like grub still doesn't see my windows install
[21:08] <riffautae> friskd: try pinging <IP_ADDRESS> [thats a google dns server\
[21:08] <japro> can i manually tell it how to boot to windows?
[21:08] <friskd> riffautae:  that works.
[21:08] <riffautae> japro: did you reboot after the install to see this
[21:09] <riffautae> friskd: its a dns issue
[21:09] <gigastress_> IRsee[21:09] <friskd> rfolco:  pingin google.com doesn't work
[21:09] <japro> riffautae, yep, rebooted multiple times
[21:09] <friskd> but the ips do work.
[21:09] <japro> also "update-grub" doesn't mention windows
[21:09] <riffautae> japro: does the ubuntu one work? if so you might have to manually put in the entry
[21:09] <kraken> friskd:try ping -c 5 <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:10] <friskd> kraken: that works.
[21:10] <japro> yes i sorted that out, i get the list and see the linux kernels and the usual memtest stuff
[21:10] <friskd> i just pinged the actuall address of another server and that works.
[21:10] <friskd> it appears   doing the actual names doesn't work.
[21:10] <kraken> friskd: now ifconfig -a
[21:10] <friskd> kraken: then what?
[21:10] <riffautae> friskd: the windows thing is in grub but the entry doesnt work?
[21:11] <japro> riffautae, nono, it isn't there in the first place
[21:11] <friskd> if i ping <IP_ADDRESS> it works. if i ping google.com it doesn't.
[21:11] <riffautae> japro: ok just making sure
[21:11] <riffautae> friskd: you need to set up your name server
[21:12] <friskd> locally?
[21:12] <friskd> how?
[21:12] <riffautae> friskd: err not sure
[21:12] <riffautae> friskd: oh /etc/resolve.conf
[21:12] <riffautae> friskd: oh /etc/resolv.conf !!
[21:13] <wayne> I have a question, I installed xubuntu on a pc thats from 2003 was this the best idea.
[21:13] <riffautae> wayne: i dont see why not
[21:13] <wayne> Linux mint doesn't run correctly on this machine, I thought xubuntu was the best
[21:13] <wayne> I tried puppy dog linux but didn't like it...
[21:13] <go8765_off_away> wayne, you may try crunchbanglinux.org too
[21:13] <riffautae> wayne: if thats too slow as well you might try pure debian or something
[21:13] <reisio> why would you
[21:14] <cablop> wayne: xubuntu or lubuntu, but a full ubuntu is very good for that, even kubuntu works on it
[21:14] <gigastress_> IRsee, did you see my message?
[21:14] <redlion> hello
[21:14] <wayne> I have the debian iso but.. It doesn't seem setup for wifi so I took it off and went to xubuntu 10.4 or something I hope this is correct
[21:15] <cablop> wayne, can you give us the specs of that computer?
[21:15] <wayne> Hold on one sec.
[21:16] <wayne> Is there a command I can to tell me the details?
[21:16] <reisio> wayne: grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo
[21:16] <wayne> I can run* sorry I just got off work typos are killing me
[21:16] <friskd> If i just shared the output of ifconfig -A with kraken... then he took off.  Is he going to try and hack me?
[21:17] <friskd> riffautae: I looked in /etc/resolv.conf
[21:17] <lauratika> some how i cant change icons and fonts in all my browsers shows very ugly... any idea what can be the issue... ubuntu 11.10 unity
[21:17] <wayne> cpu MHz		: 2131.884
[21:17] <friskd> just one line in there
[21:17] <viliny> how do i go about going back to gnome on 10.10?
[21:17] <reisio> wayne: free -m, under total
[21:18] <reisio> viliny: from what?
[21:18] <riffautae> friskd: not if you have iptables set up ;)
[21:18] <viliny> from unity i guess
[21:18] <viliny> this is cumbersome
[21:18] <reisio> viliny: you're using unity on 10.10?
[21:18] <riffautae> friskd: add 'nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>' to it and see if you can ping google
[21:18] <viliny> yes reisio
[21:18] <friskd> riffautae:  that worked!
[21:18] <wayne> http://pastebin.com/j9REYeX4
[21:18] <friskd> So what do i need to do. get the rackspace name servers?
[21:19] <friskd> or can i just use googles?
[21:19] <riffautae> friskd: :D ok so you can just use that or you can ask rackspace if they have a local nameserver for you to use
[21:19] <friskd> any reason not to use googles?
[21:19] <riffautae> friskd: no not really, but remember google is under no obligation to keep them running
[21:19] <friskd> gotcha
[21:19] <reisio> wayne: pretty good so far
[21:19] <reisio> wayne: lspci | grep -i vga
[21:20] <cablop> wayne, i was using this computer, pretty old too, 2GB RAM DDR, Athlon XP 1.9 GHz 32 bit, and 160 GB disk using Gnome or Kubuntu it was ok, i used a nVidia graphics card, to cope with graphics, and it was pretty ok, better than xubuntu or lubuntu
[21:20] <riffautae> friskd: you can add <IP_ADDRESS> as well for their other one
[21:20] <riffautae> friskd: if one goes down it will use the other
[21:20] <viliny> i need to either be able to configure my user to be allowed to mount stuff or get gnome back on this thing... right now im getting very frustrated with this joke that is unity
[21:20] <Ethern0T> haillo
[21:20] <wayne> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[21:20] <riffautae> wayne: D: s3
[21:20] <viliny> so please, if anyone can give any tips on how to get gnome back on this thing i'd be more than greatful
[21:20] <cablop> wayne: it was able to run compiz and the common stable effects of it, so, i think ubuntu or xubuntu would be ok on that machine
[21:21] <wayne> It only plays resident evil 2 and 3
[21:21] <wayne> Its really old, I wanna new one but I have too many bills so I must use this
[21:21] <lauratika> anyone?
[21:21] <reisio> wayne: pretty decent, though, you could probably take your pick, but if you like Xubuntu there's no particularly reason to stop using it
[21:21] <templet> viliny, simple run 11.04 and choose gnome instead of unity -- i think that works ?
[21:21] <reisio> lauratika: I'm a one
[21:21] <wayne> Sweet. For some reason Linux Mint wasn't stable on this machine.
[21:22] <reisio> templet: said he's on 10.10
[21:22] <cablop> wayne, cannot you get an external AGP card? it is the only problem of your computer, but besides that use it with ubuntu 10.04 or ubuntu 10.10 and use matacity, it will be ok
[21:22] <lauratika> oneness
[21:22] <cablop> wayne: how much ram do you have?
[21:22] <reisio> wayne: that's odd, but in the past
[21:22] <pcpower> people still have AGP cards?
[21:22] <wayne> I have 2 GB/s off DDR I think
[21:22] <reisio> people with AGP slots have
[21:22] <gigastress_> is there anyone who can help me with lvm and lucid. cant login on full disk encryption
[21:22] <friskd> Thank you riffautae
[21:23] <riffautae> wayne: :D
[21:23] <wayne> Its not DDR2 I don't really know the type I took it out of another pc for this one
[21:23] <qcode> hi
[21:23] <reisio> hi q
[21:23] <riffautae> wayne: you can try a local good will, there are some that keep electronics and computer stuff and might have a better card for like 10$
[21:24] <riffautae> wayne: i think i have seen older radeons in there before
[21:24] <wayne> I have 3 hard drives (First Master Slave) Second Master (Third Secondary Slave) My Master Slave is 500 GB/s and has 18 Bad spots
[21:24] <Uns0b1ll> what was command to view specifics of Nic card forgot
[21:24] <riffautae> Uns0b1ll: ifconfing ?
[21:24] <reisio> Uns0b1ll: lspci | grep -i net
[21:25] <Uns0b1ll> yes lspci thanks
[21:25] <cablop> wayne: as far as SMART says it is ok, you canlive with those 18 bad spots, it is harder to live with a dead pixel on the screen
[21:25] <wayne> I/O errors
[21:25] <Uns0b1ll> any1 had good luck enabling QinQ on Adaptec Nics ?
[21:25] <Uns0b1ll> or vlan tagging
[21:25] <cablop> and... i see that computer pretty similar to mine except the AGP, but i was running ubuntu and kubuntu on it and being able to run a VM with WinXP on it too
[21:26] <wayne> I have my OS on the 500 GB hdd, it goes up to almost 400 GB/s then I/O ERROR
[21:26] <riffautae> wayne: 400 GB/s????
[21:26] <reisio> yes a 2+GHz proc and 2+GB RAM is quite decent
[21:26] <wayne> Its a 500 gb hdd
[21:26] <wayne> Old IDE
[21:26] <wayne> for like almost 3 years ago
[21:26] <wayne> from*
[21:26] <riffautae> wayne: GB/s is a speed measurement
[21:26] <riffautae> wayne: i am not sure what you meant there
[21:26] <reisio> obviously he meant GBs
[21:26] <wayne> woops
[21:26] <cablop> yup
[21:27] <riffautae> wayne: oh you mean when formating it?
[21:27] <riffautae> wayne: try badblocks on it
[21:27] <wayne> I mean like data wise onto the hdd its 500 gbs and only stores like 380 somewhere close to 400gbs
[21:27] <reisio> uhuh
[21:28] <reisio> outside of starting a media collection, you really only need like... 30
[21:28] <wayne> After it hits that marker it says I/O ERROR
[21:28] <wayne> But now I know the bad sectors are their can they be removed or fixed?
[21:28] <riffautae> wayne: i think bad blocks can avoid them
[21:29] <bekks> wayne: Neither nor. They can be avoided.
[21:29] <wayne> I see, you have to just push them to the very back, probably why it doesn't work to the end
[21:29] <cablop> wayne except if the damage is about the circuits
[21:29] <cablop> i suggest you to use the other two disks if you can until you're able to buy a better disk replacement
[21:30] <riffautae> wayne: in the mean time use this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badblocks
[21:30] <cablop> if you are in a bad shape and needing to pay bills don't put your wallet onto that disk
[21:30] <wayne> It was an external drive and man was it loud
[21:30] <wayne> WD isn't the best
[21:30] <cablop> (bad economic shape, of course xD)
[21:30] <riffautae> wayne: WD, like all manufacturers is hit and miss
[21:31] <reisio> older externals are louder than newer
[21:31] <reisio> supplies supplies
[21:31] <japro> what exactely do i have to do to change the grub configuration? i edited 40_custom and did grub-mkconfig but now the list is gone alltogether
[21:31] <wayne> Would you know if linux needs a wifi card or not? I have this netgear usb card and linux seems to not pick it up as well.
[21:31] <reisio> wayne: which one?
[21:31] <riffautae> japro: sorry i dont know, maybe #grub exists and has friendly people? if so i bet they can help
[21:31] <wayne> Which linux or wifi card?
[21:31] <reisio> wayne: ...wifi card
[21:32] <wayne> Wireless N USB Adapter NetGear
[21:32] <adrellias> japro: ubuntus just is not a standard way of doing grub config
[21:32] <adrellias> i edited the file but will have to look which one i edited
[21:32] <adrellias> to get my windows partition to boot
[21:32] <reisio> well, Ubuntu uses GRUB2 is all
[21:32] <adrellias> 2 seconds
[21:33] <reisio> and GRUB2 is a little less straightforward than 1
[21:33] <adrellias> reisio: with non standard config files
[21:33] <reisio> adrellias: no they're standard
[21:33] <adrellias> doesnt look standard in the sense off my centos or gentoo server
[21:33] <adrellias> but in anycase
[21:33] <reisio> adrellias: how is your Gentoo different?
[21:33] <adrellias> will look for which ones i edited
[21:33] <adrellias> /boot/grub.conf or menu.lst is all i needed to edit with ubuntu that was not the case
[21:34] <reisio> that's because that's GRUB1
[21:34] <wayne> Wireless-N USB Adapter > WN111 v2
[21:34] <reisio> Ubuntu uses GRUB2
[21:34] <adrellias> ahhhhh
[21:34] <adrellias> havent updated my grub then hehehe
[21:34] <reisio> and GRUB2, again, is a little... strange :p
[21:34] <gigastress_> is there anyone who can help me with lvm and lucid. cant login on full disk encryption
[21:34] <reisio> adrellias: it's not stable in Gentoo yet, arguably for good reason
[21:34] <adrellias> reisio: thanks for putting me right :)
[21:34] <cablop> wayne i sugest you to test that 500 GB drive before with a live CD, and your computer is pretty able to run a live CD
[21:35] <reisio> even in Ubuntu it is still version 1.99, which signifies a version still in development, as you probably know
[21:35] <Xbert> Apparmor is not showing Firefox as enforced when it running, Firefox is set to be enforced, can anyone help me?
[21:36] <japro> yeah, grub is really unreasonable atm
[21:36] <japro> first i at least managed that it showed the list
[21:36] <japro> but now it again just boots straight to ubuntu
[21:36] <japro> argh
[21:36] <reisio> adrellias: be a little less confusing in Gentoo, because nothing automagickally runs the commands that update the config files, you do it yourself
[21:37] <lauratika> i have a mayor issue in here, i cant change fonts or icon set, or themes on ubuntu 11.10 unity and gnome... but in guest account things are working perfect. what can be wrong?? any ubunturette with the know how?
[21:37] <adrellias> reisio: yep i had to edit the file myself
[21:37] <adrellias> japro: to show grub you need to hold in the shift key after your pc does its post
[21:37] <jsstn> question : is there a way to configure three monitors on ubuntu using a display card and uv++
[21:37] <reisio> adrellias: I mean for GRUB2, you'll still have to do that, basically, in Gentoo
[21:37] <japro> do i have to run grub-mkconfig or update-grub to "upload" the config file?
[21:38] <wayne> So I just boot my live disk and scan the hard drive?
[21:38] <sasori> hi, where to change the settings of this 11.04 ubuntu's auto lockdown?..because it automatically locks out after a few minutes of being idle :S
[21:38] <riffautae> sasori: the screensaver should have options for that
[21:39] <japro> adrellias, shift doesn't help
[21:39] <japro> i just get the pink screen and then the ubuntu login prompt
[21:39] <sasori> ok
[21:39] <japro> maybe i already screwed something up, can i "reload" the default config?
[21:40] <Malgorath> hey all, was wondering if I install the xfce4 desktop on ubuntu (xfce-desktop package) will that mess up my ability to play games and do 3d animation? I'm just not liking this unity stuff so much.
[21:40] <adrellias> japro: you need to hold shift before the pink screen.
[21:40] <adrellias> japro: what i usually do is smack it alot after the post screen
[21:40] <adrellias> japro: this is how i added a custom entry to my grub list
[21:40] <adrellias> http://pastebin.com/5wtrFz71
[21:40] <adrellias> not saying its right but its worked for me
[21:41] <riffautae> Malgorath: no it should not mess with any of that at all
[21:41] <Malgorath> riffautae, okay thanks i'm gonna try it now
[21:42] <lauratika> ideas please?
[21:42] <bsmith093> for scripting, how do i tell the shell to do for all with cbz extension
[21:42] <bbbbbbbb> how do i mount my usb card reader? the card doesnt show up in fdisk, but the reader is in lsusb
[21:43] <adrellias> reisio: ahh yeah havent used grub too until ubuntu :) so yeah i was missinformed
[21:43] <adrellias> hehe
[21:43] <adrellias> japro: did you get the past bin ?
[21:43] <cablop> noob, but necessary question, can i chroot a 64bit linux from a 32bit linux?
[21:43] <bekks> bbbbbbbb: If the card doesnt show up, there is something wrong.
[21:43] <jsstn> @  cablop  : yes
[21:44] <japro> adrellias, yep, saw it
[21:44] <bbbbbbbb> bekks: i have had this issue with this reader all along. the last time someone here helped me and i got it running in the end - only i forgot how
[21:45] <Gskellig> whats a good (basic) paint program for ubuntu
[21:45] <Gskellig> i want less functionality than GIMP but more than mspaint
[21:45] <adrellias> nways im off reisio thanks for the chat :)
[21:45] <riffautae> bbbbbbbb: is there a line in dmesg giving it a /dev/sd* ?
[21:46] <bbbbbbbb> riffautae: no, then i wouldn't ask ^^
[21:46] <riffautae> bbbbbbbb: hey you never know, many people here are pretty new
[21:46] <zykotick9> jsstn, are you "sure" about that?
[21:47] <kusznir> Hi all: Can anyone tell me how to force ubuntu 11.04 to to use the intel driver instead of vesa on X?
[21:47] <kusznir> (preferably the "ubuntu way")
[21:47] <jsstn> @ Gskellig : Gnome-paint
[21:47] <Gskellig> thankyou
[21:48] <vick> how do I get my ubuntu  web server to stop swapping?
[21:48] <bekks> vick: By bying more RAM.
[21:48] <vick> bekks, I have 768 mb of ram, should be enough for a web server no?
[21:49] <bekks> vick: Depending on the load - maybe. Maybe not. In your case, it isnt enough, right? :)
[21:49] <templet> vick, may i pm you ?
[21:49] <vick> bekks, almost no load, maybe 100 visitors a day in total.
[21:49] <vick> templet, sure
[21:49] <[conrad]> vick: That's a pretty loose statement. You have load, the potential for other processes like SQL servers to be using the memory, and others that could be getting in the way.
[21:50] <bbbbbbbb> here, this is what dmesg tells me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/725770/
[21:50] <zykotick9> cablop, i know it's possible to chroot from 64to32, but i don't think 32to64 is possible (i could be wrong)
[21:50] <riffautae> vick: what other software do you have running on your server
[21:51] <t_pol> hey there, i need to make a partial installation but i am getting errors, lots "failed to fetch ... "deb packets, and then i am asked to check my "installation media" could somebody help me through that?
[21:51] <bekks> zykotick9: cablop: chrooting into 32bit from 64bit is possible. Vice versa isnt.
[21:51] <[conrad]> Hello everyone.  I'm using the latest Ubuntu ( 11.10 )'s OMAP port. I'm trying to change the resolution at the boot level from the default 1280x720, to 1024x768. I've tried issuing what seems to be the proper setenv commands and running mkimage, but the next boot is still at 1280x720. Does anyone have any other suggestions for getting this change in place?
[21:51] <zykotick9> bekks, ya - that was my understanding as well
[21:51] <savid> Is there a way to trigger a script to be executed when a new monitor is plugged in?
[21:52] <vick> riffautae, just the lamp stack, didn't install anything else.
[21:52] <savid> I currently don't have a way to make my LCD display the primary screen by default. I always have to set it with XRandr.  I'm hoping there's a way to automate that.
[21:52] <gigastress_> anyone who can help with luks lvm and lucid????
[21:52] <riffautae> vick: X or anything? how do you knwo it is swapping? linux always uses a litle
[21:53] <vick> no X
[21:53] <vick> just a pure install on linode VPS
[21:53] <vick> pure install of ubuntu 10.04 and then lamp stack on top
[21:54] <riffautae> vick: k how do you know it is swapping? bad performance or is top listing some swap used?
[21:54] <vick> I get notifications on high IO
[21:54] <riffautae> vick: from linode? or is this the system logging that
[21:54] <vick> disk IO rate high
[21:54] <vick> linode sends automatic notifcations when the disk IO is high
[21:54] <bobweaver> Hello there I am trying "key word" to make a gtl interface for some perl that I have modified. I am using Glade to do this there is only one button. that is it that needs to react when pressed. I have entered in the command when clicked. and I have run it with glade-preview -f <filename>  and it is still not working any tips or hints ?
[21:54] <bobweaver> gtk *
[21:55] <vick> and high IO comes from swapping right?
[21:55] <riffautae> vick: not necissarily though it can
[21:55] <bbbbbbbb> i don't get my card reader working. this is what dmesg tells me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/725776/
[21:55] <Uns0b1ll> how can i install advanced utlities software for my adaptec nic cards on ubuntu ?  thanks !
[21:55] <vick> riffautae, I think in this case it is ... when I reboot it goes back to being normal.
[21:55] <vick> this server used to be 256 and was running fine!! now it's 768.
[21:55] <vick> should be enough
[21:55] <riffautae> vick: check top to see if your mem is full and swap has a lot
[21:55] <vick> riffautae, I just restarted, so I can't do that now.
[21:56] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hello, how does one disable NotifyOSD notifications?
[21:56] <Xbert> Apparmor is not showing Firefox as enforced when it running, Firefox is set to be enforced, can anyone help me?
[21:56] <riffautae> vick: you'll have to monitor the system to see whats doing it then. it might also be a bug in some script you are running on the web server
[21:57] <vick> riffautae, ok, how do I monitor? I run top and see what processses are consuming most ram?
[21:57] <riffautae> vick: the correct way to fix trashing on something like that is to find out whats using all your ram and tell it to cut it out
[21:57] <riffautae> vick: yea
[21:57] <vick> im gonna try jmeter :)
[21:57] <riffautae> vick: thrashing*
[21:57] <B0g4r7> I ran Update Manager on my one Lucid vm that hasn't been updated in a while, and it downloaded like 280 updated packages, but 9 of the downloads failed with 404 errors.
[21:57] <riffautae> vick: thats fine i assume, i think there are io watchers but i dont know any
[21:57] <augustl> hi. How do I create a bootable USB stick when I don't already have ubuntu...?
[21:57] <B0g4r7> Is it OK to let it "continue" or will those missing packages cause a problem?
[21:57] <cablop> what is that ahci thing on a SATA port?
[21:58] <theshadow> Ubuntu Natty, Dell Vostro 3750, Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[21:58] <Xbert> augustl, use unetbootin on withdows
[21:58] <theshadow> ack sorry, it's freezing randomly
[21:58] <riffautae> B0g4r7: no dont force it
[21:58] <augustl> Xbert: I only have Linux, though
[21:58] <reisio> augustl: you can use unetbootin in Linux, too
[21:58] <Xbert> augustl, there is a linux version  as well
[21:58] <olewolf> I've created a Debian package that I'd like to propose for inclusion in one of the Ubuntu repository, probably multiverse. Where do I find information on how to propose a package for Ubuntu?
[21:58] <augustl> ah, cool
[21:58] <riffautae> cablop: a replacement protocol thingy over ide style
[21:58] <B0g4r7> It says "Some of the packages could not be retrieved from the server(s).  Do you want to continue, ignoring these packages?"
[21:59] <Dark_Apostrophe> How does one disable NotifyOSD notifications?
[21:59] <skyball> Is there a channel for Ubuntu One ?
[21:59] <reisio> skyball: #ubuntuone
[21:59] <B0g4r7> It's looking for things that don't exist on the server
[21:59] <B0g4r7> For instance, http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/empathy/empathy_2.30.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[21:59] <reisio> skyball: ffr: /msg alis list *ubun*one*
[21:59] <skyball> thanks
[21:59] <bobweaver> no one uses Glade areound here ?
[21:59] <gigastress_> is there someone who has expereince with lvm fulldiskencryption and lucid 10.4?
[21:59] <bobweaver> around *(
[22:00] <riffautae> B0g4r7: I dont know that its a good idea to do that, you might try again later or change which mirror you are using
[22:00] <lauratika> help a sis...
[22:00] <bobweaver> gigastress_,  I have nbothing on that but would true crypt work ?
[22:00] <riffautae> bobweaver: true crypt is slower
[22:00] <jsebean> hello
[22:00] <B0g4r7> Well, I had let it run overnight when it initially failed.  Now 16h later it's still failing.
[22:01] <reisio> jsebean: hi
[22:01] <riffautae> gigastress_: i have done it on arch linux
[22:01] <bobweaver> riffautae,  like I said I have nothing on that :>)
[22:01] <jsebean> I'm having a problem installing ubuntu 11.10 and it's getting to be frustrating. I've installed Ubuntu (successfully) but when I boot my monitor says the resolution is bad and to use 1440x900 so I can't even see anything. How can I fix this?
[22:02] <theshadow> Alright, let's try again. I'm having an issue where the laptop will randomly hang. It completely locks up can't even ssh in to look at logs/state http://paste.ubuntu.com/725779/ Can anyone help me figure it out? It started recently, exactly? I don't know but within the last two weeks.
[22:02] <cablop> how can i install the gnome3 full on ubuntu via cli?
[22:02] <B0g4r7> I think I'll take a VM snapshot and then let it proceed.  If it dies I can roll back.
[22:02] <reisio> cablop: what version
[22:02] <cablop> ubuntu 11.10, gnome 3
[22:02] <jsebean> I'm having a problem installing ubuntu 11.10. I've installed Ubuntu (successfully) but when I boot my monitor says the resolution is bad and to use 1440x900 so I can't even see anything. How can I fix this?
[22:03] <zykotick9> !nounity | cablop
[22:03] <kusznir> Hi all: Can anyone tell me how to force ubuntu 11.04 to to use the intel xorg driver instead of vesa?
[22:03] <jsebean> I'm having a problem installing ubuntu 11.10. I've installed Ubuntu (successfully) but when I boot my monitor says the resolution is bad and to use 1440x900 so I can't even see anything. How can I fix this?
[22:03] <cablop> thanks zykotick9
[22:04] <zykotick9> !patience | jsebean
[22:04] <bobweaver> I will put togeather a source package maybe some one will look  at it for me :>)      http://www.mediafire.com/?ac8efsylw4k9b7p
[22:04] <cablop> for some stupid reason it is not recognizing the swap on the encrypted device, sigh
[22:05] <jsebean> I'm having a problem installing ubuntu 11.10. I've installed Ubuntu (successfully) but when I boot my monitor says the resolution is bad and to use 1440x900 so I can't even see anything. How can I fix this?
[22:06] <j3n5> exit
[22:06] <zykotick9> jsebean, stop it.  Wait 15-30 minutes before repeating your question
[22:06] <cablop> anyone here liking gnome 3?
[22:06] <bobweaver> what the program does is look for flash still in browser and puts it in your Videos folder
[22:06] <jsebean> @zykotick9 i have been waiting
[22:07] <reisio> jsebean: hit CTRL+ALT+F2, run DISPLAY=:0 xrandr
[22:07] <reisio> jsebean: DISPLAY=:0 xrandr -s # to change
[22:07] <reisio> jsebean: CTRL+ALT+F7 to get back to X
[22:07] <bbbbbbbb> i don't get my card reader working. this is what dmesg tells me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/725776/
[22:08] <augustl> unetbootin doesn't seem to be able to install the bootloader on Arch Linux
[22:08] <augustl> why aren't there hybrid and/or plain imgs for ubuntu? Kinda strange.
[22:08] <reisio> augustl: ?
[22:08] <B0g4r7> jsebean, How is the monitor connected?  vga?  dvi?  hdmi?
[22:09] <augustl> reisio: the files on ubuntu.com are only for CDs
[22:09] <jsebean> B0g4r7: VGA
[22:09] <cablop> think things this way, i am on Gnome 2.x and moving ahead to another GUI, what is the best option, Gnome3, KDE or XFCE?
[22:09] <reisio> augustl: no they aren't
[22:09] <augustl> unetbootin is currently stuck at 33% on "Installing Bootloader"
[22:09] <zykotick9> augustl, 11.10 is hybrid
[22:09] <augustl> ah!
[22:09] <reisio> augustl: give it time
[22:09] <augustl> if they're hybrid then I'm all good :)
[22:09] <augustl> dd happy time
[22:09] <jsebean> the Ctrl+alt+f2 not working for me either
[22:09] <augustl> thanks folks
[22:09] <wayne> Hey I can't get my sound to work on xubuntu
[22:10] <B0g4r7> jsebean, is it possible to use DVI or HDMI, or is VGA the only option?
[22:10] <reisio> jsebean: how about CTRL+ALT+PrntScrn+k
[22:10] <jsebean> B0g4r7: hi afraid not
[22:10] <jsebean> reisio: sorry
[22:10] <wayne> Anybody know anything about xubuntu
[22:11] <reisio> wayne: yes
[22:11] <xdhausx> anybody has been tried bodhi linux here?
[22:11] <zykotick9> wayne, i'd bet the people in #xubuntu do
[22:11] <wayne> Its not muted I dunno whats going on
[22:11] <bbbbbbbb> i don't get my CF card mounted. this is what dmesg tells me about the reader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/725776/
[22:11] <zykotick9> !ot > xdhausx
[22:11] <bobweaver> Is there something that I can use to make a gui applications that is wrintin in bash ?
[22:11] <augustl> who's responsible for the web page on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download ? That site doesn't say they're hybrid images
[22:12] <bobweaver> or made for bash I should say
[22:12] <jsebean> im not sure what's going on :S
[22:12] <windparadise> hello, pls I am in trouble, can you please assist? I am trying to set up a control panel which requires a valid fqdn. meanwhile when I typed     hostname --fqdn  I had berylhost.com instead of expecting to have mx.berylhost.com    what should I do please ?
[22:12] <wayne> Doesn't seem possible to use sound
[22:12] <B0g4r7> jsebean, it sounds like the monitor is being driven wrong by the video card.  What kind of monitor is it, and what kind of video card?
[22:12] <cablop> wayne: xubuntu uses xfce that is based on gtk like gnome is, so if your poor performance is due to graphics it is not going to help too much, run gnome with metacity instead of other things and it will be the same in your machine
[22:12] <nsl> hi
[22:13] <cablop> wayne: anyway if you insist on moving to a lihter GUI then try LXDE instead
[22:13] <jsebean> B0g4r7: Dell monitor and Nvidia
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> wayne: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[22:13] <reisio> bobweaver: #bash would know
[22:13] <chaospsychex> what is the package name of ubuntu 3?
[22:13] <Dark_Apostrophe> How does one disable NotifyOSD notifications?
[22:13] <zykotick9> !nounity | chaospsychex
[22:14] <[_miT_]> Dark_Apostrophe: why would you want to do that? lol
[22:14] <glebihan> bobweaver, depends on what you need exactly
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: there is no ubuntu 3
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> Dark_Apostrophe: for what app?
[22:14] <Dark_Apostrophe> mit: because they're annoying :P
[22:14] <nsl> i just installed ubuntu 11.10 and im reading guide how to move x, minimise and maximise buttons to the right like on wihdows... it says to press alt+f2 and to write gconf-editor, but i cant open it :S
[22:14] <[_miT_]> Dark_Apostrophe: awwww
[22:14] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip, i assumed chaospsychex must mean gnome3
[22:14] <B0g4r7> jsebean, if you can switch it to a lower resolution it may become happy.  ...I don't know  how to do that myself, blind.
[22:14] <Dark_Apostrophe> Across the board, the lot. Though if there is an app I can adjust them selectively, that might work, too
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> nsl: try dconf-editor
[22:15] <jsebean> B0g4r7: I'm not even sure if it's booting
[22:15] <wayne> http://pastebin.com/CMvY2dyK <<<
[22:15] <[_miT_]> i just hit my knee so hard on the desk > <
[22:15] <jsebean> B0g4r7: ive been searching around
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> Dark_Apostrophe: you may be able to remove notify-osd package, not sure what else it will remove
[22:15] <nsl> still nothing
[22:15] <Tunix> How do I boot into a gnome enviroment in . instead of unity???\
[22:15] <B0g4r7> jsebean, what if you use crtl-alt-f1 to switch to text mode?
[22:15] <reisio> Tunix: what version
[22:15] <Tunix> 11.10
[22:15] <Tunix> reisio
[22:16] <nsl> it's like run application isn't working for me
[22:16] <reisio> Tunix: you have to install gnome-shell / gnome-tweak-tool / gnome-panel
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: did you mean Gnome3? If so, what is the outut of:  lsb_release -sc
[22:16] <reisio> Tunix: then it'll be an option from the cog next to your name on the login screen
[22:16] <jsebean> B0g4r7: computer acts dead, no hdd activity, nothing, simple message on monitor Cannot display this video mode use 1440x900 60hz and no buttons does everything
[22:16] <Tunix> thank you ill dpo that now
[22:16] <Tunix> do*
[22:16] <jsebean> B0g4r7: anything*/everything
[22:16] <glebihan> Tunix, if by gnome you mean gnome2, you can't
[22:17] <Tunix> sooo
[22:17] <Tunix> Gnome 3?
[22:17] <reisio> Tunix: what I said
[22:17] <reisio> Tunix: you might feel the same way about it as you do about Unity, though
[22:17] <Tunix> got it ill open snaptic now
[22:17] <wayne> Should I install another linux ?
[22:17] <reisio> wayne: why?
[22:17] <pp7> NO!!
[22:17] <Tunix> reisio: Should I just stick with unity then?
[22:17] <Tunix> I really dont like it
[22:18] <wayne> why ? What?
[22:18] <reisio> Tunix: I'm personally not a big fan of using things I don't like
[22:18] <pp7> Tunix: what's wrong with unity?
[22:18] <glebihan> Tunix, try gnome-shell then you'll see if you like it better
[22:18] <B0g4r7> jsebean, you can try changing the boot options to boot into verbose text mode to see what's going on.  Hold the shift key on boot to get to the GRUB menu.  Edit the options there and remove the "quiet" and "splash" options.
[22:18] <nsl> shit now i did something and i dont see x, minimise buttons if window isn't maximised lol :S
[22:19] <reisio> Tunix: if it's old GNOME you want, your options are these: install an older version of Ubuntu and hope that before it hits EOL GNOME 2 will be maintained again, or GNOME 3 will be transformable into being like GNOME 2, or use Xfce
[22:19] <reisio> Tunix: or you could personally take on making GNOME 3 be like GNOME 2, of course
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> wayne: if you give the output of the command I gave, we may be able to resolve your sound issue
[22:19] <Tunix> reisio: Can I install Xfce like I would Gnome-shell?
[22:19] <reisio> Tunix: yes: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[22:19] <wayne> http://pastebin.com/CMvY2dyK
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> Tunix: yes
[22:20] <reisio> Tunix: technically it's just the xubuntu-desktop package, but if you don't remove the other things your menus and the like end up being confusing
[22:20] <wayne> ^ I did the pastebin thing
[22:20] <IsmAvatar> Hey guys, can I get a little sound help? I'm trying to copy over the LiveCD sound settings to my working install, because my working install plays static, but the LiveCD doesn't. Where do I find these settings?
[22:20] <reisio> wayne: sound isn't working?
[22:20] <Tunix> reisio: It looks like the commands you sent me do all that
[22:20] <reisio> IsmAvatar: did you try lowering PCM?
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> wayne: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ricotz/unstable;  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:20] <reisio> Tunix: yes precisely
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> wayne: source: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> wayne: did you ever see that page?
[22:21] <daniel_> i have just installed ubuntu (dual boot, i also have an arch install) and my bootloader is all messed up
[22:21] <IsmAvatar> reisio: yes. It lowered the volume, but the speaker volume knob couldn't compensate sufficiently. LiveCD, however, works perfectly, even with PCM at 100%.
[22:22] <wayne> I think so
[22:22] <daniel_> should be on its own partition /dev/sda1  (/boot)
[22:22] <daniel_> i have ubuntu /dev/sda5  and arch /dev/sda3
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> wayne: then you would have added the PPA and got a significantly later Alsa version which can help lots
[22:22] <daniel_> can someone tell me how to reinstall grub so that it detects these two and brings up the menu? i managed to boot this time from the grub command prompt
[22:22] <chaospsychex> i meant the gnome 3 desktop-standard
[22:23] <wayne> still no sounds, I think I'll just pick another linux
[22:23] <chaospsychex> how do i install it
[22:23] <chaospsychex> not gnome 2
[22:23] <chaospsychex> gnome 3
[22:23] <wayne> What linux is the best for this 2003 pc
[22:23] <reisio> wayne: any
[22:23] <reisio> chaospsychex: gnome-shell / gnome-tweak-tool / gnome-panel
[22:23] <reisio> Tunix: oh and there's
[22:24] <wayne> Not really I've found Mint to be rather slow
[22:24] <wayne> and unstable
[22:24] <Tunix> reisio: Getting errors with that command
[22:24] <glebihan> reisio, no need for gnome-panel
[22:24] <reisio> Tunix: gnome-session-fallback
[22:24] <Tunix> whats that?
[22:24] <chaospsychex> i installed gnome-shell how do i boot into it
[22:24] <Tunix> A window management system?
[22:24] <reisio> glebihan: no need for a lot of things
[22:24] <reisio> chaospsychex: log out, hit the cog next to your name
[22:24] <glebihan> reisio, I meant that gnome3 does not use gnome-panel
[22:24] <BetaArc> Hi... questionm, my Intel N570 Dual core cpu is getting hot.. like 76C.. I have watched some streams, etc.
[22:24] <reisio> Tunix: supposed to make GNOME 3 more like GNOME 2, or something
[22:24] <BetaArc> Is this normal
[22:24] <chaospsychex> reisio: and choose which one?
[22:24] <chaospsychex> gnome?
[22:25] <chaospsychex> that is gnome 2
[22:25] <reisio> glebihan: and I meant that there's no need for a lot of things
[22:25] <reisio> chaospsychex: what Ubuntu version?
[22:25] <glebihan> reisio, but why telling him to install a package he surely won't need ?
[22:25] <napalm54> Has anyone tried out bumblebee on ubuntu for nvidia optimus laptops?
[22:25] <IsmAvatar> So, where do I find the sound settings to copy over from LiveCD to working install?
[22:25] <reisio> glebihan: he doesn't need any of them
[22:25] <reisio> napalm54: some people have
[22:25] <glebihan> reisio, nvm
[22:26] <Tunix> reisio: Im not seeing Gnome Panel
[22:26] <BetaArc> napalm54: yes on Archlinux
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: press ALT+F2 and run:  gnome-shell --replace
[22:26] <reisio> Tunix: where?
[22:26] <napalm54> Ok cool, I been having some issues with using the Intel HD 3000 gpu, or atleast that is what I think the problem lies
[22:27] <Tunix> reisio: You told me to install Gnome shell / gnome tweak tool and gnome-panel im only seeing the first two in the package manager
[22:27] <Tunix> or "software center"
[22:27] <napalm54> Many things programs that use OpenGL say that I do not have opengl
[22:27] <BetaArc> napalm54: what is the problem?
[22:27] <Uns0b1ll> is there better tool for NIC's troubleshooting then nictools-pci ???
[22:27] <reisio> Tunix: what version of Ubuntu?
[22:27] <Tunix> 11.10
[22:27] <napalm54> I was wondering if using Bumblebee would help any
[22:27] <BetaArc> you mean on wine?
[22:27] <Tunix> Gnome shell and tweak tool are now installed
[22:27] <reisio> Tunix: well it's there, perhaps use apt-get install instead
[22:27] <reisio> Tunix: can try those first
[22:28] <napalm54> Like launching Stellarium
[22:28] <reisio> Tunix: and if they don't suffice, gnome-panel and gnome-session-fallback
[22:28] <wunnle> hello there.
[22:28] <Tunix> reisio: sudo apt-get remove adium-theme-ubuntu apg appmenu-gtk appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt at-spi2-core bamfdaemon banshee banshee-extension-soundmenu banshee-extension-ubuntuonemusicstore baobab binfmt-support bluez-gstreamer branding-ubuntu brasero brasero-cdrkit brasero-common checkbox checkbox-gtk cli-common compiz compiz-core compiz-gnome compiz-plugins-default compiz-plugins-main-default compizconfig-backend-gconf deja-dup duplicity dv
[22:28] <Tunix> reisio: Ignore that sorry
[22:28] <reisio> wunnle: hi
[22:28] <reisio> Tunix: I had no intention to do otherwise :D
[22:29] <Tunix> lol thank you
[22:29] <wunnle> i'm looking for a download manager works with file sharing sites like rapidshare, megaupload etc. do you have any suggestions?
[22:29] <Tunix> im going to relog and see if that works
[22:29] <chaospsychex> http://debianhelp.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/screenshot-at-2011-10-08-153214.png <---- this is what i want to use on 11.10
[22:29] <kerv> Ive got a pretty unusual question for anyone familiar with wireless routers and command line.. Anyone fancy?
[22:29] <napalm54> glxinfo is printing out some errors for me too like: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[22:29] <napalm54> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[22:29] <napalm54> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[22:29] <chaospsychex> kerv: ?
[22:29] <reisio> wunnle: jdownloader
[22:30] <Uns0b1ll> Hello how can i enable 802.q taging on ubuntu ?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: that's gnome shell
[22:30] <kerv> chaospsychex: Ive got a router that requires a username/password prompt on an HTML homepage before you can gain actual access to the internet
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> wunnle: fatrat does it too
[22:31] <chaospsychex> kerv: ok, what's the problem
[22:31] <BetaArc> napalm54: http://www.google.nl/search?q=Xlib%3A+extension+%22GLX%22+missing+on+display&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#sclient=psy-ab&hl=nl&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=VsN&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&source=hp&q=Xlib:+extension+%22GLX%22+missing+on+display+intel+hd&pbx=1&oq=Xlib:+extension+%22GLX%22+missing+on+display+intel+hd&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=5736l7862l0l8020l9l9l0l0l0l0l184l
[22:31] <IsmAvatar> Where do I find the sound settings to copy over from LiveCD to working install?
[22:31] <chaospsychex> kerv: donate that router to 'antique hardware' web portals suck!
[22:31] <qin> BetaArc: goo.gl
[22:31] <kerv> chaospsychex: Now the issue is I need to download X server on a computer connected to the router
[22:31] <BetaArc> qin: sorry.. to fast
[22:31] <chaospsychex> kerv: ok, and you only have command prompt access?
[22:31] <kerv> Exactly
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> kerv: set the router IP as a proxy and you may be able to set the username and password there
[22:31] <chaospsychex> kerv: sudo apt-get install links
[22:32] <kerv> links is a no go.. unless Im missing a menu on it
[22:32] <chaospsychex> kerv:  ?
[22:32] <kerv> wont display anything
[22:32] <qin> chaospsychex: links is oldish, links2 or elinks (have tabs)
[22:32] <kerv> ActionParsnip: almost like port forwarding? How do I do that?
[22:32] <reisio> IsmAvatar: check the alsa files in /etc/ for 'model' info
[22:32] <chaospsychex> kerv: then log into your routers web-shell and disable that draconian feature
[22:32] <kerv> Its not my router.
[22:33] <chaospsychex> kerv: whose is it?
[22:33] <kerv> Im... located in a middle eastern country.
[22:33] <kerv> Its a local Cafe` ISP sorta deal.
[22:33] <chaospsychex> kerv: find the router and smash it to a million pieces then rage a jihad on all your neighbors for implementing such a tool
[22:33] <kerv> Haha... if only that was politically correct and wouldnt land me in the brig :P
[22:33] <chaospsychex> kerv: call al-qaeda and get them to hand this 'situation'
[22:34] <chaospsychex> *jandle
[22:34] <chaospsychex> *handle
[22:34] <chaospsychex> lol
[22:34] <Guest42359> how to choses ubuntu very
[22:34] <Taj> k, question, anyone hav exp getting ie7+ running in ubuntu 11.10?
[22:34] <chaospsychex> Taj: omg dude
[22:34] <kerv> ^^ atleast that wasnt my question
[22:34] <Guest42359> ubuntu 11.10?
[22:34] <Taj> i know.
[22:34] <chaospsychex> first of all IE sux
[22:34] <Taj> its fucking awful
[22:34] <payman_> i wanna run an application like firefox browser!!! how can i do that in linux terminal??
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Taj: check the wine appdb, there is ies4linux too, both run badly
[22:34] <Taj> and i don't wanna do it
[22:34] <chaospsychex> !windows
[22:34] <FloodBot1> Taj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> !proxy | kerv
[22:34] <wayne> Anybody know where I can find an IRC for linux puppy I can't find the Linux Puppy ISO on the site
[22:35] <iceroot> payman_: firefox&
[22:35] <chaospsychex> get the hell outta here with that bs, no IE!
[22:35] <Taj> but my other option is to fucking install windows. and I *REALLY* dont wanna do that
[22:35] <chaospsychex> ie is for noobs
[22:35] <iceroot> payman_: & to not block the shell with firefox
[22:35] <chaospsychex> ie sux
[22:35] <iceroot> chaospsychex: you have a support question?
[22:35] <payman_> thanks iceroot
[22:35] <bobweaver> !conduct | Taj
[22:35] <Taj> i agree. but unfortuantly some corporations are micro$oft brainwashed into only allowing it
[22:35] <chaospsychex> iceroot: yes
[22:35] <kerv> ActionParsnip: You were talking about setting the connection as a proxy, can you explain? Is it a conf file?
[22:35] <iceroot> wayne: #puppy (or what there channel is)
[22:35] <Taj> and masking in firefox/opera isn't working
[22:36] <IsmAvatar> Hey, quick sound question: Where do I find the sound settings to copy over from LiveCD to working install?
[22:36] <Taj> which is my usual work-around
[22:36] <chaospsychex> iceroot: i want to use the default gnome shell with 11.10 and remove unity
[22:36] <chaospsychex> gnome 3
[22:36] <iceroot> chaospsychex: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[22:36] <chaospsychex> i did that
[22:36] <chaospsychex> that's not it
[22:36] <iceroot> chaospsychex: sudo apt-get remove unity
[22:36] <glebihan> Taj, you might find some help there : http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4195
[22:36] <kerv> Taj: Download TOR.. Then set FireFox's proxy to "SOCKS" and "localhost:9050"
[22:36] <iceroot> !nounity | chaospsychex
[22:36] <napalm54> Ok I currently have the nVidia drivers installed on my optimus laptop.  Is it better to have nvidia or nouveau when using Bumblebee?
[22:36] <Taj> thats not gonna help kerv
[22:37] <Taj> it has to do w/ certificates
[22:37] <Taj> an bs
[22:37] <iceroot> chaospsychex: you have to choose gnome-shell in the login-manager as a session
[22:37] <bobweaver> Taj you have tried spoofing it ?
[22:37] <nhr> hi there, need help - ubuntu 11.10 fails to start on fresh installation. No gui window at all.
[22:37] <kerv> nhr: try startx
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> kerv: you can export the variables http_proxy and ftp_proxy in ~/.bashrc  then it may work
[22:38] <BetaArc> napalm54: nvidia gives more fps, nouveau is slow at the moment
[22:38] <rojj> Quit
[22:38] <nhr> I can login from other terminals - ctrl-alt f2 etc, but dont get anything graphical
[22:38] <Taj> yes in opera
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> kerv: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1575
[22:38] <napalm54> BetaArc: Ok thanks
[22:38] <iceroot> nhr: any errors when running "sudo service gdm start"?
[22:38] <bobweaver> Taj:try in chromium might work ..
[22:38] <kerv> ActionParsnip: I'll check it out, thanks.
[22:38] <iceroot> is it still called gdm in 11.10?
[22:38] <Taj> k
[22:38] <glebihan> iceroot, nope it's lightdm
[22:38] <iceroot> glebihan: ok
[22:39] <nhr> kerv:  get error connection refused - unabled to connect to x server
[22:39] <Monotoko> iceroot: why are you starting gdm with root? o.o
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: default is lightdm but you can use gdm if you wish, or slim or kdm
[22:39] <iceroot> Monotoko: because you handle upstart with root
[22:39] <azert> hi
[22:39] <nhr> Module nvidia_173 not found
[22:39] <azert> is it possible to install a package on a particular partion ? using apt ?
[22:39] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: but gdm is not the default anymore for unity/gnome3?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> nhr: the module is nvidia not nvidia_173
[22:39] <BetaArc> napalm54: if you need more information, you could also join the bumblebee channel, don't know if they are active at the moment
[22:39] <iceroot> azert: no
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: lightdm is default but others are available
[22:40] <nhr> ActionParsnip: Just repeating the message I see on the screen
[22:40] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: ok, thx
[22:40] <azert> like apt-get install  /mnt ?
[22:40] <iceroot> azert: not possible
[22:40] <napalm54> BetaArc: Oh didn't know they had a channel, will do just that. Thanks
[22:40] <azert> why ?
[22:40] <iceroot> azert: by design of deb
[22:40] <IsmAvatar> Hey, quick sound question: Where do I find the sound settings to copy over from LiveCD to working install?
[22:40] <Grundoko> Hey, I have a bit of a predicament here. I just ran sudo rm /*/*/*, and deleted everything 3 directories down from root. I was hoping I could get to the Trash and restore the files, but since I just deleted gnome-terminal and xterm, I can't use those. And I used Ctrl+Alt+F1 to enter the fallback terminal, but it turns out /usr/bin/python, /usr/bin/sudo are gone, so I can't perform any commands. My computer is currently only useful
[22:40] <azert> i don't  have space on local
[22:41] <iceroot> azert: mount something in there
[22:41] <azert> i got lots of space on external hard drive
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> Grundoko: you could copy the files from the liveCD but it will take a long time
[22:41] <iceroot> azert: but its not possible to change the installation dir
[22:41] <azert> i allready mount my hard drive
[22:41] <kerv> --- Links2 + listing as Proxy worked! Not sure which it was but kudos to both of you! ---
[22:41] <azert> the question is why we can't write on external hard drive after mounting it ?
[22:41] <Monotoko> Grundoko: I think you'll have to just give it up as a bad mistake and reinstall
[22:42] <tle_can> anyone else have any problems installing on Dell Vostro 3350? I get a cannot find initramfs error in the installer
[22:42] <iceroot> Grundoko: its no problem to use that command, its easy to restore
[22:42] <iceroot> Grundoko: just use your BACKUP!
[22:42] <Liam> Hey all
[22:42] <Liam> how can I identify what touchpad my system has?'
[22:42] <iceroot> Grundoko: but because you dont have a backup, you have to reinstall
[22:42] <Liam> it's not being automatically identified
[22:42] <Grundoko> iceroot: Implying I have enough sense to backup :p
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> Grundoko: what if your drive motor fails, where is your data?
[22:43] <azert> my question is
[22:43] <iceroot> Grundoko: now you know why it is good to have a backup and why it is good to not use rm with sudo
[22:43] <iceroot> Grundoko: normally there is no reason to use rm with sudo
[22:43] <azert> after mounting can we transfer every system file and folder to the external hard drive ?
[22:44] <azert> if yes what option i have to check for ?
[22:44] <iceroot> azert: how big is the internal drive?
[22:44] <the3nigm4> iceroot: sometimes there is
[22:44] <azert> 2T
[22:44] <iceroot> the3nigm4: normally not
[22:44] <azert> 2 tera bit
[22:44] <histo> Grundoko: pull the plug imediately. boot a live cd and follow the directions from ubottu
[22:44] <iceroot> azert: you have 2tb drive internal and dont have space for your ubuntu-installation?
[22:44] <histo> !undelete | Grundoko
[22:45] <histo> Grundoko: it's important that you pull the plug and not shutdown normally
[22:45] <azert> no i just only got 8GB internal hard drive
[22:45] <Grundoko> ubottu: It's ext4, does that make a difference?
[22:45] <azert> 2TB for external hard drive
[22:45] <histo> Grundoko: no you can still undelete files
[22:45] <iceroot> Grundoko: you cant recover the data
[22:45] <azert> that's why my questiion
[22:45] <root> hello
[22:45] <histo> iceroot: that's not true
[22:45] <iceroot> Grundoko: doesnt matter what ubottu said, files are gone
[22:45] <Daekdroom> Is there any way to force a resolution if my monitor is not detected by ubuntu, but it displays?
[22:45] <Liam> how can I identify the brand / model of my touchpad?
[22:45] <chaospsychex> i don't have 'gnome shell' as a option in the login manager
[22:45] <Guest25995> german here?
[22:45] <azert> what option i have to check for ?
[22:45] <Daekdroom> !de | Guest25995
[22:45] <iceroot> !de | Guest25995
[22:45] <chaospsychex> only gnome and gnome classic and gnome isn't the gnome shell
[22:46] <Grundoko> iceroot: So there's no way it's in the trash? I can probably use a thumbdrive, and drop the bin files I need back in, so I can get access to Trash
[22:46] <histo> !notunity | chaospsychex
[22:46] <the3nigm4> is there a key to reply to someone specifically? or do you just type their name?
[22:46] <iceroot> Grundoko: there is no trash on the shell
[22:46] <IsmAvatar> Grundoko: no, rm does not put files in the trash
[22:46] <chaospsychex> Grundoko: install testdisk
[22:46] <histo> Grundoko: Boot a live cd and backup your files from /home
[22:46] <chaospsychex> Grundoko: will let u recover deleted files
[22:46] <azert> i recommend to not to use ext4
[22:46] <Guest25995> how one can help me?
[22:46] <azert> taking lots of space
[22:46] <iceroot> azert: not true
[22:46] <histo> Grundoko: either way you have to boot a live cd
[22:46] <histo> !ask | Guest25995
[22:46] <Liam>  /nick rufsketch1
[22:46] <azert> yes its true
[22:47] <IsmAvatar> Hey, quick sound question: Where do I find the sound settings to copy over from LiveCD to working install?
[22:47] <chaospsychex> i installed gnome-shell and the weak tool, didnt work
[22:47] <iceroot> azert: its not true, please dont tell lies here
[22:47] <azert> comparing other filesystem
[22:47] <iceroot> azert: like?
[22:47] <histo> Grundoko: the longer you use the system the longer you are overwritting files
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> azert: ext4 is great, there are great speed improvements over ext3
[22:47] <azert> listen
[22:47] <azert> yes of course
[22:47] <Grundoko> I'll just reinstall then. Disappointing, but I have all my important data elsewhere :p
[22:47] <HackerII> what lib do i need for zip files ?
[22:47] <the3nigm4> does anybody actually like unity?
[22:47] <azert> but the problem is it taking more space on disk comparing ext3
[22:47] <rypervenche> the3nigm4: Not I.
[22:47] <histo> Grundoko: I would just recover the files but whatever do what you want.
[22:47] <iceroot> azert: no
[22:47] <Guest25995> i have installed loic on linux
[22:48] <bekks> HackerII: For doing what exactly with zip files?
[22:48] <rufsketch1> how can identify the make/model of my touchpad?
[22:48] <Grundoko> the3nigm4: I don't personally, however I know people who do.
[22:48] <HackerII> opening them
[22:48] <azert> i just check on router
[22:48] <iceroot> azert: and now stop that lie please
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> azert: do you mean per file?
[22:48] <rufsketch1> how can I*
[22:48] <Guest25995> and now dont start this programm
[22:48] <bekks> HackerII: "unzip".
[22:48] <azert> that's why i m telling, why i have to lie
[22:48] <HackerII> k..thnx
[22:48] <the3nigm4> ive never met anybody that does, its always either KDE or XFCE
[22:48] <azert> why do you feel that i lie
[22:48] <iceroot> Guest25995: you are using puppy-linux?
[22:48] <the3nigm4> or a wm
[22:48] <Guest25995> bt5
[22:48] <histo> azert: more than likely had to do with your block size when you checked that comparison.
[22:48] <iceroot> Guest25995: not supported here
[22:48] <Guest25995> i use BT5
[22:48] <eein> ubuntu 11 installer on eeepc = fail
[22:48] <iceroot> !backtrack | Guest25995
[22:48] <histo> Guest25995: what is the problem?
[22:49] <azert> what the gain for me ?
[22:49] <the3nigm4> Guest25995: why?
[22:49] <azert> or are you selling your ext4 ?
[22:49] <azert> i m just a simple user
[22:49] <histo> the3nigm4: netbook people might like unity
[22:49] <iceroot> azert: there is no reason to not use ext4
[22:49] <histo> azert: use what you want.
[22:49] <azert> don't tell that i lie w/o
[22:49] <stevecam> does anyone else think ubuntu 11.10 is buggy?
[22:49] <histo> !best | azert
[22:49] <azert> knowing what i try explaing
[22:50] <chaospsychex> do any of those derivitaes use the gnome 3 shell by default?
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> Guest25995: you are also running your IRC client as root which is a REALLY bad idea
[22:50] <iceroot> azert: saying "dont use ext4 because its taking much more space" is a lie
[22:50] <the3nigm4> histo: i only know one guy that has a netbook and uses unity, and thats because hes to ignorant to know how to remove it
[22:50] <IsmAvatar> Hey, quick sound question: Where do I find the sound settings to copy over from LiveCD to working install?
[22:50] <histo> ActionParsnip: not on a live cd it's not
[22:50] <azert> i just made a test
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> azert: any journalized file system will waste space for the journal. The jounal is no bigger size for size over ext3
[22:50] <chaospsychex> is unity going to be used on 12.04 ?
[22:50] <histo> ActionParsnip: he's booted bt5 from a live cd and joined irc
[22:50] <iceroot> chaospsychex: yes
[22:50] <histo> chaospsychex: yes
[22:50] <chaospsychex> omg
[22:51] <the3nigm4> chaospsychex: probably, but i hope not
[22:51] <histo> chaospsychex: just use fall back or install gnome-shell
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> histo: sure, the root account could be infiltrated and the local partitions accessed ;)
[22:51] <azert> hey do a test right now
[22:51] <azert> you will see the difference
[22:51] <iceroot> chaospsychex: feel free to use gnome3, kde, xfce4, lxde
[22:51] <chaospsychex> gnome classic is better than unity
[22:51] <Daekdroom> It seems Ubuntu doesn't recognize my monitor's EDID, so I can't change its resolution through xrandr and passing video=1920x1080 to the boot only changes the terminal resolution. Any tips?
[22:51] <pycoderf> hey all how would i route traffic on ubuntu server from one nic to the other
[22:51] <iceroot> !who | azert
[22:51] <Grundoko> I'm actually kind of glad I screwed my system. Been looking for an excuse to try out Xubuntu 11.10
[22:51] <azert> what is the gain for me liying here  iceroot
[22:51] <glebihan> chaospsychex, it will be the default but you can use whatever desktop environment you want
[22:51] <logo> hello guys
[22:51] <bekks> pycoderf: By setting up a router.
[22:51] <histo> Daekdroom: what video card?
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> azert: can you give a link to backup your claim?
[22:52] <iceroot> azert: you dont know the technical details, so your statement is wrong
[22:52] <histo> !ot | azert iceroot
[22:52] <Daekdroom> histo, ATI HD5430
[22:52] <pycoderf> bekks: cant a route be setup since its a server between the two or use the gateway of one interface for the second nic
[22:52] <iceroot> histo: no need for that
[22:52] <azert> okay i m not an expert
[22:52] <histo> Daekdroom: did you install ati drivers?
[22:52] <azert> i m agree
[22:52] <logo> any help me?
[22:52] <bekks> pycoderf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[22:52] <chaospsychex> where is 'synaptic' in 11.10 ?
[22:52] <azert> but can do a demo
[22:52] <iceroot> azert: so the statement about ext4 is wrong
[22:52] <histo> iceroot: yes there is you guys arguing over ext4 vs. ext3 is offtopic
[22:52] <Daekdroom> histo, It's not about the drivers. The issue is not limited to linux, however I can work around it on Windows.
[22:53] <azert> very simple format your  pen drive from fat32 to ext4 8GB
[22:53] <iceroot> histo: ext4 is of course not offtopic here
[22:53] <histo> Daekdroom: I would gander that it maybe driver related in linux.
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: its not default installed, it is in the repos though
[22:53] <azert> you can see the difference
[22:53] <iceroot> azert: and should we know use fat32 to install ubuntu on it?
[22:53] <logo> how i start loic on bt5?
[22:53] <Daekdroom> histo, it is not. Drivers are alright. It's a cable/monitor problem, but I can't test them, so I prefer setting my resolution manually for the meantime.
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> azert: yes, that's the journal. Which you will get with Ext3 as well
[22:53] <histo> !backtrack > logo
[22:53] <iceroot> azert: and what about files bigger then 4gb on fat32? (or was it 2gb?)
[22:53] <Dark_Apostrophe> How would I set up 4 different Firefox profiles to all have their own separate icon in the dock?
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> azert: fat32 doesn't have a journal but is slower and not nearly as robust as ext4
[22:53] <geomaster> logo: you may want to consider something less lame than loic
[22:54] <gundy> iceroot, 4G
[22:54] <azert> but for ext4 it taking 2GB
[22:54] <Squiffy> lost_the_game <3
[22:54] <azert> that's too much
[22:54] <lost_the_game> Squiffy: i <3 u moar
[22:54] <the3nigm4> so how difficult is it to set up your own irc channel? would it be worth the time if there were never going to be more than 10 people?
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> azert: then make the journal smaller... not hard
[22:54] <azert> comparing others
[22:54] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: create 4 launchers which will call firefox -P profile
[22:54] <Squiffy> kick niles|iPod! HE SPAMS
[22:54] <lordjj> the executables Code::blocks is producing are denying permission to be run. I have to manually do chmod +x to be able to run them in a terminal. The result is that I can't easily debug programs in code::blocks. Why is this happening?
[22:54] <histo> Daekdroom: the opensource drivers may not support the resolution you are trying.
[22:54] <Daekdroom> histo, they do.
[22:54] <iceroot> azert: the journal is of course not 2gb when your drive is 8gb
[22:55] <azert> my question is simply why by default acting like that ?  taking more space ?
[22:55] <Dark_Apostrophe> iceroot: How do I create a launcher? (Sorry, while I have used Linux for ages, I'm new to Unity)
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> azert: format it ext2 and the space will be usable as Ext2 doesn't have a journal. But the device storage will fragment
[22:55] <stevecam> IIRC, firefox will be removing the profile function and enabling it through a plugin
[22:55] <iceroot> Dark_Apostrophe: sorry i am not using unity
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> azert: its the journal
[22:55] <Dark_Apostrophe> Oh, then what were you referring to?
[22:55] <iceroot> azert: you can disable journal on ext3/4
[22:55] <pycoderf> why dont i have a /etc/default/dhcp3-server file when i freshly installed dhcp3-server
[22:55] <iceroot> azert: but there is a good reason for the journal
[22:55] <chaospsychex> Dark_Apostrophe: remove unity is first thing
[22:55] <glebihan> the3nigm4, it takes no more than a few minutes, but you should ask on #freenode about that
[22:55] <Daekdroom> histo, it's 1920x1080@60hz. It used to work alright until this EDID issue, and reinstalling didn't fix it, so I have to set the resolution manually and xrandr doesn't let me.
[22:55] <logo> any can help me ?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> azert: the journal is what stops linux file systems fragmenting and slowing
[22:56] <azert> the maximum capacity for ext2 AFAIK is 4GB
[22:56] <iceroot> pycoderf: is "dpkg -L dhcp3-server" showing that there must a file like that
[22:56] <Dark_Apostrophe> chaospsychex: Nah.. it's either that or KDE (GNOME is out of the question), and I'm fine with either.
[22:56] <iceroot> azert: stop it please
[22:56] <Squiffy> My friend said he got arrested using Ubuntu?
[22:56] <iceroot> azert: you dont know anything about what you are talking
[22:56] <stevecam> how do i go about removing unity, it freezes up a lot
[22:56] <Squiffy> Can someone tell me why?
[22:56] <pycoderf> iceroot: no
[22:56] <chaospsychex> Dark_Apostrophe: your crazy if you choose KDE and unity over gnome, thats crazy
[22:56] <pycoderf> but the docs say it should exist
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> azend: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext2  try 32Tb
[22:56] <chaospsychex> kde sux
[22:56] <lost_the_game> Squiffy, I heard ubuntu is an illegal OS
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> azend: basically you have no idea what you are taling about
[22:57] <Squiffy> lost_the_game: Thats what i'm thinking
[22:57] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: as i said earlier
[22:57] <chaospsychex> kde is the worst desktop of all of them
[22:57] <lost_the_game> Squiffy, I saw this article a few years ago
[22:57] <Dynamit> Ubuntu illegal OS where?
[22:57] <iceroot> chaospsychex: stop flaming please
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: there are lots of other DEs. Try LXDE, XFCE and so on
[22:57] <Daekdroom> lost_the_game, it is very legal.
[22:57] <the3nigm4> xfce is the best
[22:57] <logo> any can help me whit LOIC on backtrack5 ?
[22:57] <Dynamit> Ubuntu illegal OS where?
[22:57]  * ActionParsnip loves LXDE
[22:57] <PCPDCG> Ubuntu's legal
[22:57] <lost_the_game> talking about how linux was an illegal operating system...
[22:57] <Squiffy> I hear sony wants to boycott ubuntu cause of PS3 Exploits
[22:57] <iceroot> !backtrack | logo
[22:57] <Dark_Apostrophe> Does anyone know how would I set up 4 different Firefox profiles to all have their own separate icon in the dock (Unity)?
[22:57] <Dynamit> LOL Linux illegal never
[22:57] <iceroot> !ot | Squiffy
[22:57] <zenloop> hi
[22:58] <zenloop> Trying to start autofs and I get the following
[22:58] <zenloop> :
[22:58] <lost_the_game> created by this soviet hacker called linus turvuld. I could be wrong tho
[22:58] <chaospsychex> microsoft is trying to make it illegal via UEFI
[22:58] <logo> pls any help me
[22:58] <Dynamit> LOL Linux illegal never
[22:58] <iceroot> logo: i already helped you
[22:58] <iceroot> logo: its not supported here
[22:58] <mahir256> the only thing illegal about linux is the millions of binary blobs present in the source, blatant violations of the gpl
[22:58] <stevecam> Dynamit, according to SCO?
[22:58] <iceroot> logo: read the message from ubottu
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: not illegal, just that the firmware will not allow it due to 'unsecure OS'
[22:59] <chaospsychex> they will use the law to make it illegal
[22:59] <squidly> I've got a server that is having issues with it's networking issues. I have serveral ipv6 and ipv4 aliases on a bonding device but the aliase doe not activate. I have step them up manually but not though the /etc/network/interfaces
[22:59] <chaospsychex> just like sony does
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: Linux peeps are talking with folks to say why it should be ok to run and such (doc on omgubuntu)
[22:59] <lost_the_game> hmm
[22:59] <logo> any can learn me
[22:59] <chaospsychex> a windows 8 comp will be the same as a sony playsation 3, security wise
[22:59] <iceroot> logo: again, your system is not supported here
[22:59] <mahir256> uefi will be a threat UNLESS all software is free software, or people can modify the SoC with legal tools
[22:59] <iceroot> !ot | chaospsychex
[22:59] <Uns0b1ll> where loader.conf ?
[22:59] <the3nigm4> windows 8 is HORRIBLE
[23:00] <eein> chaospsychex: whew i was getting nervous it would be locked down
[23:00] <lost_the_game> how can I open a .torrent file? a friend of mine just sent me windows, but it's a torrent... how can I burn that to a CD? I want to install window.
[23:00] <lost_the_game> *windows
[23:00] <stevecam> i must say that windows is much more secure then it used to be
[23:00] <geomaster> anyone did an upgrade to 11.10? (not reinstall but dist-upgrade)
[23:00] <iceroot> lost_the_game: ask microsoft where to get a legal copy of that
[23:00] <squidly> lost_the_game: that is illegale.. if you have a copy of windows legally then you should have a disk for it
[23:00] <Uns0b1ll> wheres loader.conf on buntu ?
[23:00] <bekks> lost_the_game: You cannot burn a torrent file. You have to download the thing(s) that file refers to first, using a torrent client.
[23:00] <mahir256> lost_the_game: 1...dammit! 2...you suck! 3...go to http://qbittorrent.sf.net/
[23:01] <lordjj> Anyone know's about this: the executables Code::blocks is producing are denying permission to be run. I have to manually do chmod +x to be able to run them in a terminal. The result is that I can't easily debug programs in code::blocks. How can I fix this?
[23:01] <Loptr> the3nigm4, windows 8? Is there such a thing ? :D
[23:01] <bekks> Loptr: There is.
[23:01] <logo> iceroot: what you mean?
[23:01] <squidly> Loptr: yes there is.. it's in development
[23:01] <chaospsychex> an endangered species
[23:01] <FloodBot1> Squiffy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:01] <chaospsychex> a cellphone os, lolol
[23:01] <iceroot> logo: you are using backtrack but this channel is for ubuntu only
[23:01] <Loptr> win 7 isnt "stable" yet and they are making 8. typical :D
[23:02] <zenloop> no valid automount entries defined.
[23:02] <bekks> Loptr: W7 is stable for years now. Lets get back to Ubuntu now. :)
[23:02] <lordjj> "cellphone os" lol
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> lost_the_game: install a client like bitlord or utorrent
[23:02] <geomaster> lordjj: are there any logs suggesting that it failed to set the executable bit?
[23:02] <Squiffy> Sorry 'bout that
[23:02] <geomaster> and try also editing preferences
[23:03] <lordjj> geomaster , hm where should I look for logs
[23:03] <Daekdroom> Where can I add commands I want to run during the boots?
[23:03] <Squiffy> k
[23:03] <Squiffy> k
[23:03] <the3nigm4> so, i dont understand whatsoever how to configure awesomewm
[23:03] <Squiffy> k
[23:03] <iceroot> !boot | Daekdroom
[23:03] <Squiffy> k
[23:03] <Squiffy> !boot | Squiffy
[23:03] <Squiffy> !boot | Squiffy
[23:03] <iceroot> Squiffy: stop it
[23:03] <geomaster> lordjj: after compiling, does the linker complain?
[23:03] <Daekdroom> iceroot, I think I'm looking for /etc/rc.local . Thank you.
[23:03] <the3nigm4> anywhere good to learn? /g/ does nothing but argue
[23:03] <geomaster> try calling gcc/g++ manually and see what happens
[23:04] <Uns0b1ll> hello !!! how can i boot drivers in my loader.conf ?
[23:05] <bekks> Uns0b1ll: The loader.conf isnt for booting drivers.
[23:05] <logo> what chat is for linux or bt ?
[23:05] <stevecam> how do i get back to my normal desktop, unity keeps on freezing
[23:05] <bekks> logo: #linux ?
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> !bt | logo
[23:05] <bekks> stevecam: Ubuntu 11.10?
[23:05] <chaospsychex> how do i completely remove gnome? sudo apt-get remove <???>
[23:05] <stevecam> bekks, yes
[23:05] <glebihan> logo, #backtrack-linux
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> logo: #backtrack-linux
[23:05] <IsmAvatar> chaospsychex: --purge gnome ?
[23:05] <bekks> stevecam: Unity is the normal desktop.
[23:06] <bobweaver> logo, BT = #backtrack-linux
[23:06] <geomaster> chaospsychex: gnome-shell?
[23:06] <Uns0b1ll> bekks, i need to enable 802.1q tagging and vlan options to my Adaptec nic card
[23:06] <IsmAvatar> Hey, quick sound question: Where do I find the sound settings to copy over from LiveCD to working install?
[23:06] <chaospsychex> sudo apt-get --purge gnome doesn't work
[23:06] <nhr> I see failed to load nvidia kernel module after fresh install
[23:06] <bobweaver> logo,#off-sec  is classroom I think ?
[23:06] <augustl> how do I change the workspace layout in 11.10? I want 4 horizontally aligned ones.
[23:06] <nhr> Live CD worked fine
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: ~/.pulse is the user settings#
[23:07] <chaospsychex> what ist he package name of the gnome desktop?
[23:07] <iceroot> !purelxde | chaospsychex (just use the remove-part)
[23:07] <Uns0b1ll> or at least to check which driver i have in my ubuntu for this device
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: you may have a different module or options on the module in the CD if it's a different release
[23:07] <geomaster> chaospsychex: i bet it's gnome-shell
[23:07] <iceroot> chaospsychex: ubuntu-desktop but its a metapackage so use the text from ubottu i posted you
[23:07] <chaospsychex> i want to remove ALL desktops
[23:07] <iceroot> chaospsychex: read the link from ubottu
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: then remove xorg and the rest will come tumbling down, it will also remove graphical apps
[23:08] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: ~/.pulse is empty on the LiveCD. Both LiveCD and Install are 11.10, but the install was an upgrade. At any rate, I want to overwrite, because the install's sound is all staticky, and LiveCD is fine.
[23:08] <stevecam> bekks, what am i supposed to do about all the problems that come along with it, my keyboard wont always type properly, my tray is annoying me when it wont let me click on things, and the unity sidebar is hiding behind other windows when something is fullscreen
[23:08] <riveram> hey what does it mean when i try to run diablo in wine, and the screen just goes black. i can hear the sound and music but there's nothing on the screen. then when it gets to a menu screen, like after the opening videos, it shrinks to a smaller black swuare and i can see some of my wallpaper? help
[23:08] <nhr> Anyone please - my desktop is completely not usable after fresh install. Window manager does not start at all
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: ~/.pulse-cookie maybe
[23:08] <chaospsychex> what's the pkg name of unity?
[23:09] <iceroot> chaospsychex: unity
[23:09] <nhr> Last message I see on the screen is checking battery state
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> riveram: have you checked the appdb?
[23:09] <lordjj> geomaster, if I use "g++ file.cpp -o file", it runs finr, and has normal permissions. When I build through codeblocks it dsnt run unless I chmod +x it first. Here's the build log in codeblocks http://paste.ubuntu.com/725834/
[23:09] <riveram> appdb?
[23:09] <stevecam> bekks, are you using unity?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | riveram
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> riveram: may need some tweaks to run
[23:09] <kerv> ActionParsnip: Still here? Cause I'm not done yet :P hahaha
[23:09] <geomaster> riveram: probably some graphics glitch
[23:10] <bekks> stevecam: No.
[23:10] <riveram> is it just pretty much a diablo update for wine?
[23:10] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: I'm sorry, .pulse was a directory and I was trying to vi it, lol. It's not empty after all. Got about 6 files in it. I just copy them over?
[23:10] <geomaster> lordjj: i see your problem. you compile onto a mounted ntfs partition, maybe that's why it refuses to set the exec bit?
[23:10] <stevecam> bekks, what do you use?
[23:10] <bekks> stevecam: KDE.
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: possibly
[23:11] <lordjj> geomaster , well, I used to do this without problems on a previous install
[23:11] <stevecam> bekks, i tried installing KDE, but it was impossible to read when everything was tiny
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> kerv: sup?
[23:11] <bekks> stevecam: You can change the font size in the settings...
[23:11] <kerv> my username/password prompt.. cant get past it.. should I be enabling cookies or something somehow?
[23:11] <geomaster> lordjj: tried tweaking preferences in code::blocks?
[23:11] <the3nigm4> stevecam: nothing looks good default, it all takes customuzing
[23:12] <stevecam> i tried that, but some fonts didn't change
[23:12] <kerv> Generally I would get an image displayed of "Bad Auth" or "Only one user sesh at a time"
[23:12] <kerv> No luck, just get returned to empty prompts every time.
[23:12] <stevecam> it is impossible to read anything, i can't work my way around the system because the writing is too small
[23:12] <lordjj> geomaster , I don't remember anything particular that I changed last time this used to work. I don't see anything particular now either
[23:13] <bekks> stevecam: Then you didnt change all fonts. :)
[23:13] <the3nigm4> as i said before, xfce is the best de out there, with lxde as a close second ( imo)
[23:13] <stevecam> bekks, how do i change all the fonts?
[23:13] <geomaster> lordjj: hmm, i don't know what can that be. what permissions does the file have when compiled (do a `stat your-executable-file`)
[23:13] <bekks> stevecam: BY going through the settings and resize everything you want to resize.
[23:14] <stevecam> bekks, there is a problem there, my eyes can not read something that is 5 pixels tall