[05:08] <Guest83473> just a black screen
[05:08] <chaospsychex> yes its in the repos i think
[05:08] <Guest83473> like trying to boot from usb
[05:08] <Guest83473> but then skip
[05:08] <trench> chaospsychex: happends alot if the computer doesn't go into usb at once
[05:08] <Kiwi__> Hi guys, new to the whole linux idea, is there a command to search for a specific directory?, can I use grep for this?
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> Guest83473: ok then it is booting, you just need the nomodeset boot option
[05:08] <Guest83473> and goes to hd
[05:08] <chaospsychex> nomodeset boot option?
[05:08] <GeekSquid> Kiwi__: the whereis command might help you
[05:08]  * tripelb goes and looks up nomodeset
[05:08] <ozzloy> tripelb, how would i check that?  the only two windows i have open are this terminal and a browser
[05:09] <trench> Kiwi__: find / -name filediryouwanttosearchfor
[05:09] <Kiwi__> ty Geek!
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> Kiwi__: sudo find / -type d -iname "name"     replace name with the folder name(or part of it with a wildcard)
[05:09] <Guest83473> I think need a biosupdate
[05:09] <Guest83473> can iaupdate in ubuntu?
[05:09] <trench> or that :P
[05:09] <Jordan_U> Guest83473: By "goes to HD" do you mean Boots the OS on your internal hard drive?
[05:09] <ozzloy> so ... maybe some process without a window opened some file on it?
[05:09] <tripelb> reading http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Nomodeset
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> Guest83473: its not bios, the bios is doing its job, its a video issue
[05:09] <Guest83473> oh
[05:09] <Guest83473> i switched xorg to 16 bits
[05:09] <Guest83473> is for that?
[05:10] <tripelb> re nvidia guest http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-help-here/multimedia/442232-nvidia-nomodeset-kernel-parameter.html
[05:10] <Guest83473> i dont think
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> Guest83473: www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html - Cached
[05:10] <tripelb> <-- learning. knows little.
[05:10] <Guest83473> ActionParsnip: You don'tunderstand my trouble
[05:10] <Jordan_U> Guest83473: By "goes to HD" do you mean Boots the OS on your internal hard drive?
[05:10] <Guest83473> my english is bad
[05:10] <Guest83473> I already can accesto ubuntu
[05:10] <Guest83473> but can't re install using ub
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> Guest83473: if you get a black screen at boot, you need the boot option
[05:10] <Guest83473> usb
[05:10] <Blue1> night folks
[05:10] <chaospsychex> why not
[05:11] <GeekSquid> Guest83473: what is your native language?
[05:11] <chaospsychex> what happens when u try to install
[05:11] <Guest83473> spanish
[05:11] <Guest83473> but nobody heko
[05:11] <home> Guest83473: Yes, what is your native language
[05:11] <trench> !es Guest83473
[05:11] <Guest83473> at spanish room
[05:11] <GeekSquid> !es | Guest83473
[05:11] <trench> doh
[05:11] <ozzloy> how do i find open files on a drive?  also, it looks like it's unmounted, but not safely removed.  idk what the difference is either
[05:11] <toshiba> help
[05:11] <GeekSquid> trench: pipe | it
[05:11] <trench> yeah
[05:11] <trench> saw that
[05:11] <micah> any gparted/ntfs experts hanging around?  i'm having problems resizing partitions
[05:11] <GeekSquid> !ask | toshiba
[05:11] <toshiba> i cant play kick a$$ on here why not
[05:11] <chaospsychex> guest what happens when u try to install from the usb menu
[05:12] <GeekSquid> !details | toshiba
[05:12] <trench> micah: okey why?
[05:12] <Guest83473> nobody helps at spanish room
[05:12] <Guest83473> D=
[05:12] <micah> trench - live install only gives me option to repartion, but i cant resize to dual boot
[05:12] <ozzloy> nm, i found the answer here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604563&page=2 sudo killall udisks
[05:12] <samuel> Is there any way to display output of an already running process in the terminal?
[05:13] <trench> micah: you have an usbpen or drive you can make an gparted bootdisk?
[05:13] <micah> i do... i have the systemrecuecd on it with gparted... but i get the same result
[05:13] <micah> should i try a straight gparted install?
[05:13] <toshiba> ozzloy: i cant play moive on here
[05:14] <chaospsychex> micah what result?
[05:14] <panther_> Received the following error: [6.390039] hub 2-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 4.
[05:14] <trench> i just did that yesterday on my moms computer with this http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:14] <GeekSquid> toshiba:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:14] <micah> chaospsychex - same thing with sysrescuecd.. no resizing... just format
[05:15] <GeekSquid> micah: are the partitions unmounted? they have to be in order to resize
[05:15] <Danny78_> hi everyone, hope all is well
[05:15] <Jordan_U> micah: What happens when you try to rezise the partitions?
[05:15] <GeekSquid> Danny78_: Good Evening, welcome to ubuntu, can we help you with something?
[05:15] <micah> option is greyed out in gparted... there's some type of exclamation icon near the partition name
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> toshiba: add the medibuntu repo and install vlc gnome-mplayer and w32codecs (I assume 32bit OS) and theres not much you won't be able to play
[05:15] <micah> nothing is mounted
[05:15] <GeekSquid> micah: is this a windows partition?
[05:15] <micah> it is
[05:15] <micah> ntfs
[05:16] <trench> micah: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/using-gparted-to-resize-your-windows-vista-partition/
[05:16] <bonjoyee> micah: try sudo umount -a
[05:16] <Gartral> GeekSquid, yarg
[05:16] <Danny78_> GeekSquid:  yes, actually, if someone could please help with an inaccessible Windows share (2 computers)
[05:16] <chaospsychex> micah did you convert the disk to a dynamic volume in windows?
[05:16] <GeekSquid> micah: gparted cannot resize the drive until it reads clean, you will have to run a chkdsk in windows twice and reboot before resizing will work
[05:17] <GeekSquid> Gartarl: well yarg ... I trust you got my pounce
[05:17] <Guest83473> if i try to use micro sd with usb adapter
[05:17] <micah> i did not.. i've never had to do that before for ntfs... the installer has allowed me to resize on other hosts.  I'll try chkdisk
[05:17] <Guest83473> can I reformat from tehere?
[05:17] <Danny78_> GeekSquid:  I'm getting a DBus error:  mountpoint already registered
[05:17] <chaospsychex> is there a pandora radio like program available for ubuntu?
[05:17] <trench> Guest83473: why do you want to reinstall in the first place?
[05:17] <Guest83473> because i'm using xfce
[05:18] <Danny78_> GeekSquid:  I can access my music folder, but not my documents
[05:18] <trench> and?
[05:18] <Guest83473> But installed accidentally gnome
[05:18] <Kiwi__> Ok so when I run the find command I get alot of permission denied responces even if using sudo to run from root privlages (sorry if my terms are off im sure you know what i mean) is there a reason for this, does sudo simply give you temporary root privlages or am i missing something?
[05:18] <Guest83473> and since that is unestabble
[05:18] <Guest83473> and kinda slow
[05:18] <azizLIGHTS> ubuntu server can install LAMP from setup?
[05:18] <trench> Guest83473: then just add the startup of xfce in your .xinitrc
[05:19] <GeekSquid> azizLIGHTS: yes it can
[05:19] <Danny78_> I' still here
[05:19] <trench> Guest83473: or do you use the login manager then you can just change it there
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> azizLIGHTS: i believe so, yes. Or you can install it post install
[05:19] <Guest83473> well
[05:19] <Guest83473> apps are mixed
[05:19] <azizLIGHTS> so is that LAMP all latest versions or updates needed
[05:19] <Guest83473> & sometimes nautilus opens
[05:20] <Guest83473> and lotys of weirdstuffs
[05:20] <GeekSquid> Danny78_: please ask your question to the room, be as detailed as possible and write the whole thing on one line
[05:20] <arang> hello, can anyone provide any help with a rom manager for android, I can't get into the android channel
[05:20] <Guest83473> is there any way to purge and let "pure xfce" again?
[05:20] <PardoSandia> some jigaboo deleted my ubuntu install file
[05:20] <PardoSandia> is there a way to recover it from my disk
[05:20] <trench> arang: i would rather use google for that question
[05:20] <GeekSquid> azizLIGHTS: you will still have to update, but yes you will have a complete LAMP stack after installation
[05:20] <izinucs> azizLIGHTS: it's lamp all dialed in for that version of ubuntu.. sometimes there are newer versions of say php or mysql but typically minor.. updates are always done for security items in everything.
[05:20] <Danny78_> I need help setting up a permanent mount of my Windows user files from Ubuntu
[05:21] <red2kic> !fstab | Danny78_
[05:21] <GeekSquid> arang: you need to register with nickserv in order to access that room
[05:21] <rww> arang: That's offtopic for this channel, so no. If you mean #android, you need to register with nickserv to enter there.
[05:21] <rww> ubottu: tell arang about register
[05:21] <GeekSquid> !register | arang
[05:21] <arang> GeekSquid: I did, but never received an e-mail to confirm my nick
[05:21] <azizLIGHTS> izinucs: what is "all dialed in"
[05:21] <GeekSquid> rww: I didn't know you could do that
[05:21] <rww> arang: then /join #freenode and ask for help with that
[05:21] <Danny78_> :red2kic:  thanks!
[05:22] <Danny78_> :ubottu:  thanks!
[05:22] <izinucs> azizLIGHTS: sorry for the acronym.. that means the packages have been tested and function correctly
[05:22] <micah> i did not.. i've never had to do that before for ntfs... the installer has allowed me to resize on other hosts.  I'll try chkdisk
[05:23] <PardoSandia> Tired of niggggers?  Sick of their monkeyshines?  Then join Chimpout Forum!  We welcome anybody who isn't a fecal negroid beast! That is right!  WE ARE NOT WHITE SUPREMACISTS; rather we are Negro Inferiorists!  If you hate niggers and aren't a nigger, you can join!  http://www.chimpout.com/forum
[05:23] <trench> lol
[05:23] <chaospsychex> LOL what the hell was that
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: troll
[05:24] <IdleOne> spam, ignore it
[05:24] <Flare183> !feedthetroll
[05:24] <GeekSquid> micah: it is a function of ntfs-3g, to keep from messing up ntfs partitions, using chkdsk /f ... the /f is fix that makes windows make the drive able to make the linux partitioner know that it is safe to operate on the drive
[05:24] <trench> some guy thinking he was "smart"
[05:24] <GeekSquid> !botsnack
[05:25] <panther_> Port 4 Correction?
[05:25] <trench> now i got bored
[05:26] <trench> time to get some sleep
[05:26] <chaospsychex> i need help getting flash to work. i clicked 'use this source' for adobe flash player and it says it is installed but when i go to flash in browser it says i need to install plugin?
[05:26] <trench> chaospsychex: what browser?
[05:26] <chaospsychex> firefox
[05:26] <jon__> hello, i need help with setting up subversions
[05:27] <jon__> im on ubuntu
[05:27] <jon__> it worked for awhile, then i see these messages when i svn co or svn update or whatever Server sent unexpected return value (403 Forbidden) in response to REPORT  request for '/!svn/vcc/default'
[05:27] <jon__> anyone has any idea?
[05:28] <trench> chaospsychex: what does about:plugins say?
[05:28] <bonjoyee> chaospsychex: why not simply copy the latest libflashplayer.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins?
[05:28] <red2kic> chaospsychex: ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[05:29] <trench> bonjoyee: and if it's a 64 bit system? :P
[05:29] <rww> trench: then use the 64-bit libflashplayer.so?
[05:29] <bonjoyee> trench: path is the same..just get the "square" preview3
[05:30] <sacarlson> jon__: sounds like a permision thing,  is the svn local or was it from a remote site?
[05:30] <chaospsychex> what?
[05:30] <jon__> sacarlson: local site, i have already chmodded and chowned the svn directory
[05:31] <sacarlson> jon__: so where did the svn originate?
[05:31] <jon__> scarlson: where did the svn originate?
[05:31] <bonjoyee> trench: chaospsychex: check http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_square.html
[05:32] <sacarlson> jon__: you say you changed owner so if that was needed I assume you moved it
[05:32] <jon__> sacarlson: Hmm I dont know if you consider this remote, but I'm working on my windows desktop and sshing to my production server
[05:33] <jon__> sacarlson: I did svnadmin create svn, then updated the vhosts, it displays properly from the browser, but not from the svn client
[05:34] <izinucs> does tar work with zip files too?
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> trench: theres a repo for 64bit flash if you want it?
[05:34] <chaospsychex> it won't let me extract it to the folder. how do i get temp sudo so i can do this from the archive manager
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> izinucs: you will use unzip or unp
[05:34] <chaospsychex> where the KEY will be on the top right
[05:34] <izinucs> ActionParsnip: thnks
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> unp rocks
[05:34] <ilpa> Is there a Daemon Manager GUI for Ubuntu?
[05:34] <ilpa> Arch seems to have one
[05:35] <bonjoyee> chaospsychex: extract to your home...then move with sudo
[05:35] <jon__> sacarlson: anything you think i could try?
[05:35] <sacarlson> jon__: I"m stale at svn I use git now,
[05:35] <chaospsychex> bonjoyee: whats the command to copy and move a file?
[05:35] <jon__> sacarlson: oo. but any direction to point me to?
[05:35] <_vaibhav_> hibernate is not working on my 10.04 machine.. I do regular updates.. what may be the problem??
[05:36] <bonjoyee> chaospsychex: mv
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: could use: sudo -i   then extract, then run: exit  to end the (i)nteractive sudo :)
[05:37] <Guest83473> how to create a new /home on /???
[05:37] <sacarlson> jon__: well I guess I would try create a new dir and co it again,  maybe it's a router problem?  I'm not clear what is where
[05:37] <IdleOne> !separatehome | Guest83473
[05:38] <bonjoyee> chaospsychex: any luck?
[05:38] <_vaibhav_> I tried to make swap partition again, but -ve.. when I hibernate my PC instead of resume it boots up as fresh...
[05:38] <Danny78_> What do I do if my terminal doesn't recognize smbmount command?
[05:39] <chaospsychex> what should the command syntax be?>
[05:39] <chaospsychex> sudo mv FILE -t TARGET?
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> Danny78_: sudo apt-get install samba smbclient
[05:40] <bonjoyee> chaospsychex: mv file.so  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[05:41] <chaospsychex> awesome,it worked
[05:41] <Danny78_> I tried:  "sudo smbmount //gaia/Documents /gaiadocs -o username=Danny, password=*********
[05:41] <chaospsychex> on my other ubuntu pc i got a prompt inside firefox and installed it within firefox,weird
[05:41] <Danny78_> and it said sudo: smbmount: command not found
[05:41] <bonjoyee> chaospsychex: 32bit or 64?
[05:42] <chaospsychex> 64
[05:42] <chaospsychex> all 32 stuff works on a 64 bit os?
[05:42] <KM0201> not necessarily
[05:43] <Danny78_> I'll try mount instead
[05:43] <bonjoyee> chaospsychex: with ia32-libs installed ..i think so!
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: you'll be using a 64bit wrapper called nspluginwrapper for plugins unless yuo use the native 64bit plugins
[05:43] <KM0201> bonjoyee: probably still a stretch to say "everything 32bit works on 64bit"
[05:44] <bonjoyee> KM0201: hmm...probably so
[05:44] <izinucs> I'm having an issue cp'ing a file from one directory to another.. cp /dir1/dir2/<file name> /dir1/dir2/dir3/ .. where am I going wrong?
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> some people even install ia32-libs then use the 32bit firefox in 64bit ;)
[05:44] <Kiwi__> how do you open a file with root privlages from the gui/
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> izinucs: cp -r folder dest
[05:44] <Kiwi__> ?*
[05:45] <jon__> sacarlson: i tried that already but it still didnt work. it shouldnt be a router problem because i tried checking out from localhost
[05:45] <Danny78_> sudo mount -t smbfs //gaia/Documents /gaiadocs -o username=Danny,password=***        mount: mount point /gaiadocs does not exist...  am I doing something wrong?
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> Kiwi__: gksudo gedit /path/to/file  you can run it in an ALT+F2 dialogue
[05:45] <KM0201> ActionParsnip: if i was gonna use a 64bit OS, i'd be a little perturbed at going to the effort to make 32bit stuff wo9rk on it... it's kinda like installing Linux, then the first thing you ask is, "how do I get x, y, and z to run in Wine"
[05:46] <younder> Danny swapped arguments?
[05:46] <bonjoyee> KM0201: so true..+1:)
[05:46] <sacarlson> jon__: so it won't let you checkout a new copy?
[05:46] <GeekSquid> Danny78_: this is a bit of confusion ... mount likes the term cifs ... replace smbfs with cifs
[05:46] <Danny78_> younder:  which ones?
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> KM0201: depends on needs and hardware, its fairly easy imho
[05:46] <younder> Danny first and second
[05:46] <KM0201> ya
[05:46] <Danny78_> GeekSquid:   ok, will try
[05:46] <izinucs> ActionParsnip: nope.. sudo cp -r /var/www/Drupal/themes/<filename> /var/www/Drupal/themes/newDirectory/
[05:46] <exotherm> I have 10.04 installed from a disk. worked great and could go on bbc iplayer with firefox until I let it update. now I'm getting an error complaining that I dont have javascript enabled which is BS. any ideas?
[05:47] <jon__> sacarlson: yup it wont
[05:47] <jon__> sacarlson: but i can see the respository if i visit it in the browser
[05:47] <sacarlson> what it the user that svn on the host runs on?
[05:47] <jon__> sacarlson: svn: access to '/!svn/vcc/default' forbidden
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> izinucs: try: gksudo nautilus   and use gui to copy, close nautilus after the copy is done
[05:48] <izinucs> ActionParsnip: I'm ssh'd into my server with no gui.. would like to use cp .. perhaps -rf ?
[05:48] <sacarlson> jon__: and what are the owner of the files?  do the owner and user on host match?
[05:48] <Danny78_> even with cifs and changing the order of 1 and 2 it still says mount point does not exist.  I am able to access my music folder however.
[05:48] <bonjoyee> Danny78_: does /gaiadocs exist?
[05:49] <jon__> sacarlson: the svn directory is owned by apache
[05:49] <jon__> sacarlson: my httpd server runs with the user apache
[05:49] <Danny78_> bonjoyee:  do I need to create it first then I'm guessing?
[05:49] <sacarlson> jon__: apache on ubuntu is www-data
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> izinucs: what is the -f switch doing?
[05:49] <jon__> sacarlson: I know, but I'm using directadmin, so they install their own httpd
[05:49] <bonjoyee> Danny78_: ofcourse u have to..
[05:49] <izinucs> ActionParsnip: used to "force" but it didn't work
[05:50] <izinucs> ActionParsnip: this should be a "no brainer".. but I'm tired
[05:50] <jon__> sacarlson: phpinfo also confirms this (User/Group: apache(1001)/1001)
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> izinucs: does the destination folder exist? I suggest you use tab to complete the folders so you know its good
[05:50] <chaospsychex> would it be possible to implement a plugin such as flash into a video card driver?
[05:51] <Danny78_> ok, I got mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //gaia/Documents,
[05:51] <Danny78_>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error  (for several filesystems (e.g. nfs, cifs) you might need a /sbin/mount.<type> helper program)  In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try       dmesg | tail  or so
[05:51] <sacarlson> jon__:  look at the logs and see what is running svn and what the problem is at the host
[05:52] <jon__> sacarlson: which logs?
[05:52] <bonjoyee> Danny78_: theres another package u need to install...for smbfs..wait
[05:52] <bonjoyee> !smbfs
[05:52] <Danny78_> bonjoyee:  stupid question--  what's the ! for?
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> izinucs: what message do you get when you try the copy?
[05:53] <bonjoyee> Danny78_: ignore that...failed command
[05:53] <izinucs> ActionParsnip: tab worked fine.. still having errors.. /var/www/Drupal/themes/blumasters/': Is a directory
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> Danny78_: it causes ubottu to output a factoid if she is programmed to respond to the word
[05:53] <sacarlson> jon__: the ones that have changed last like /var/log/apache /var/log/auth.log
[05:54] <jon__> sacarlson: okay, sec
[05:54] <bonjoyee> Danny78_: open a package manager and search for smbfs..
[05:54] <izinucs> ActionParsnip: got it.. the file name was blumasters.etc.etc.etc and the directory was bluemasters not blumasters
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> izinucs: cp -a source dest  seems to work
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> izinucs: d'oh!
[05:54] <Danny78_> bonjoyee:  I was able to install command line, thanks
[05:55] <izinucs> ActionParsnip: DOH! .. banging my head on the desk now :)
[05:55] <sacarlson> jon__: it's time for my bike ride,  I'm loosing light,  chat you all later
[05:55]  * GeekSquid wipes up the blood on izinucs desk, and hands izinucs a bandage
[05:56] <JackyAlcine> Lol
[05:56]  * izinucs is appriciative of GeekSquid and his help
[05:56] <JackyAlcine> Hey guys.
[05:56] <Danny78_> Now I get:  sudo mount -t cifs //gaia/Documents /gaidocs -o username=Danny,password=*** mount error: can not change directory into mount target /gaidocs
[05:56] <Danny78_> oh,my error
[05:57] <Danny78_> misspelled gaia...  but now it's hanging
[05:58] <GeekSquid> Danny78_: that seems better open another terminal and cd into the share
[05:58] <Danny78_> connection time out
[05:58] <GeekSquid> oh
[05:58] <jon__> sacarlson: nothing interesting in the logs that i can find D:
[05:58] <kinks> ever since I installed ubuntu 10.10 (I was running 10.04 earlier and did a fresh install), sounds seem... tinny? I removed pulse audio completely and I am now just using ALSA, and I have an AV Chaintech 710 sound card.
[05:59] <Danny78_> :GeekSquid:  I cd and it's empty
[05:59] <kinks> what can I try changing to resolve this? I'm using the same equalizer settings as before with my mp3 player (and playing the same music)
[06:00] <Harmonic> Hello
[06:00] <GeekSquid> kinks: I have found that upgrading to a later version of alsa from ppa on newer releases seems to help the tinnyness
[06:00] <kinks> GeekSquid: what's ppa?
[06:00] <GeekSquid> !ppa
[06:00] <kinks> ah, thanks.
[06:00] <Harmonic> If I go to Places > Connect to server. Then connect to a windows machine to share files - Does this rely on the Samba service?
[06:00]  * [gnubie] waves
[06:01] <GeekSquid> Harmonic: yes
[06:01] <Danny78_> the witching hour is upon...  some of us
[06:01] <kinks> GeekSquid: it's actually making my head hurt, hopefully this helps :s
[06:01] <Harmonic> When did Samba start coming pre-installed with ubuntu?
[06:01] <chaospsychex> Danny_78 ?
[06:02] <Danny78_> chaospsychex:  midnight here
[06:02] <AgentBlair> hi, for some reason 64-bit version 10.04 of ubuntu won't load any wireless drivers right after install so i can't connect to the internet
[06:02] <GeekSquid> Danny78_: at least you're central!
[06:02] <AgentBlair> this wasnt an issue with 32-bit
[06:02] <kinks> GeekSquid: I just need alsa-lib, correct?
[06:02] <Harmonic> geeksquad : Thanks. Do you know when samba started coming build in to ubuntu?
[06:02] <chaospsychex> AgentBlair: hook up a ethernet cable
[06:02] <AgentBlair> u kno
[06:02] <Danny78_> GeekSquid:  yeah, but I wish I was back in mountain
[06:02] <AgentBlair> i was thinking just that
[06:02] <chaospsychex> LOL
[06:02] <AgentBlair> but i can't get to it at the moment
[06:03] <KM0201> AgentBlair: whats your wireless device?
[06:03] <kinks> GeekSquid: nevermind, I see that it includes all of them.
[06:03] <AgentBlair> it's some HP pavalon wireless device i can't remember let me look it up
[06:03] <nit-wit> is gparted the partitioner for kubuntu
[06:03] <kinks> ..or.. not
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> AgentBlair: sudo lshw -C network   will tell you what it is
[06:03] <Danny78_> I switched back from cifs to smbfs and still the same "mount error (110):  Connection timed out"  It's like Windows isn't listening
[06:04] <AgentBlair> broadcom, BCM4311
[06:04] <GeekSquid> Danny78_: can you ping the win machine?
[06:04] <azizLIGHTS> how much space needed for ubuntu server ?
[06:05] <azizLIGHTS> hdd space
[06:05] <KM0201> AgentBlair: you probably need b43 for that device would be my guess
[06:05] <psycho_oreos> azizLIGHTS, depends on what you want on the sever
[06:05] <KM0201> !broadcom | AgentBlair
[06:05] <AgentBlair> thanks
[06:05] <azizLIGHTS> psycho_oreos: LAMP
[06:05] <[gnubie]> is it really necessary to have the console-kit-daemon running on ubuntu maverick as a server without x?
[06:05] <psycho_oreos> azizLIGHTS, probably about a gig at minimum
[06:05] <Danny78_> GeekSquid:  yeah, it pings fine
[06:06] <KM0201> AgentBlair: 10.xx, you can probably install the STA driver if you follow the instructin son that page(w/o internet access)
[06:06] <AgentBlair> yeah ok
[06:06] <psycho_oreos> I would advise against the use of wl/STA driver for bcm4311.. I'd only use it if b43 doesn't work
[06:06] <KM0201> AgentBlair: u still have the 64bit live cd?
[06:06] <samudayaN> how to change apt repository to cd drive
[06:06] <GeekSquid> [gnubie]: I believe that is required for your console to work properly
[06:07] <AgentBlair> i do
[06:07] <psycho_oreos> samudayaN, add cds using apt-cd I'd say and then disabling any http repos
[06:07] <AgentBlair> i took it out but i can put it back in
[06:07] <KM0201> AgentBlair: well there you go.. :)
[06:07] <GeekSquid> samudayaN: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out everything but the CD, which should be at the top
[06:07] <psycho_oreos> s/apt-cd/apt-cdrom
[06:07] <timothytimbers> Is ubuntu responsible for stopping me from using function pointers, hooks, and those sorts of nifty code tricks to control a program
[06:08] <[gnubie]> GeekSquid: why is that so? other distros don't have a console-kit-daemon running but the console is ok.. why in ubuntu there is this console-kit-daemon running and uses up some memory
[06:09] <AgentBlair> seems it can't find the package
[06:09] <nawk> for many versions (32/64-bit) of adobe flash, under various Ubuntu releases, I find that once it is in full-screen mode.  Things are choppy, and are slow
[06:09] <AgentBlair> ill check the CD
[06:09] <nawk> is that normal, and is that the status quo
[06:09] <KM0201> AgentBlair: system/admin/synaptic   click settings/repositories  then on the first tab, check "CD" at the bottom.. close it.. and click reload   you'll get a bunch of errors, but don't worry about it.
[06:10] <KM0201> AgentBlair: then use synaptic, and install those packages one at a time in the order they are on the walkthrough there.
[06:10] <GeekSquid> [gnubie]: every distro is different, and console-kit-deamon uses less than 0.09% of my ram ... actually it shows 0.0 on ps aux, so is it really a big deal
[06:11] <AgentBlair> ok
[06:12] <[gnubie]> GeekSquid: mine is 0.5% memory per process (or is this a thread?)
[06:12] <aeonik> Hello! Can I ask a quick question about dual booting and Windows Recovery?
[06:12] <Crash1hd> Can anyone tell me if dd and ddrescue are the same program? also how long does dd take to do 100gb drive?
[06:13] <Blue1> Crash1hd: a long time
[06:13] <Danny78_> wow..  it works!
[06:13] <AgentBlair> wants me to insert the disc, when ive done so
[06:13] <AgentBlair> eh ill try this in the morning with direct cable, thanks again
[06:13] <Crash1hd> Blue1: can it be paused?
[06:13] <Danny78_> now I need to make these shares permanent after any shutdown-bootup
[06:13] <psycho_oreos> Crash1hd, ddrescue is based on a similar dd code base but with added features for recovering from a dying disk (usually)
[06:13] <KM0201> AgentBlair: is the disk mounted?
[06:13] <psycho_oreos> Crash1hd, no
[06:13] <AgentBlair> haha opps
[06:14] <Blue1> Crash1hd: not dd afaik
[06:14] <[gnubie]> GeekSquid: and i have 64 of them
[06:14] <Crash1hd> psycho_oreos: ahh ok thanks :)
[06:14] <AgentBlair> wait yeah it is
[06:14] <Blue1> Crash1hd: you might consider rsync
[06:14] <Crash1hd> Is there a way to set dd to be verbose?
[06:14] <aeonik> So, if I perform a Windows7 Recovery (restore my laptop to factory state) it's not going to mess with my Ubuntu partition will it?
[06:14] <KM0201> AgentBlair: hm. that should work.
[06:14] <Crash1hd> Blue1: rsync will be faster wont it
[06:14] <psycho_oreos> Crash1hd, you can kill dd with a certain signal to make it show the progress but it only shows it once and for every time you issue that same kill signal
[06:15] <GeekSquid> [gnubie]: console-kit-daemon ... each process stores information about a single user session seems you have had alot of different terminals open, running different things, this is why there are so many
[06:15] <Blue1> Crash1hd: duuno that it would be any faster, but you could do it in chunks
[06:15] <AgentBlair> it's a dvd maybe that's it?
[06:15] <psycho_oreos> and dd works differently from rsync, rsync copies only visible files, dd deals with raw nodes and will replicate a complete image from the souce
[06:15] <KM0201> AgentBlair: um, don't think so.
[06:15] <psycho_oreos> s/souce/source/
[06:15] <Crash1hd> psycho_oreos: hmm the kill signal kills the process though right
[06:16] <psycho_oreos> Crash1hd, not always, some programs will act in a certain way when killed with a specific signal, such as some daemons with -sigint will cause it to reload conf files
[06:16] <[gnubie]> GeekSquid: i'm the only one who is logged in to this system and it's via ssh
[06:16] <Crash1hd> psycho_oreos: ahh so if there is only 4gb used on the 100gb drive then rsync would be alot faster
[06:16] <Crash1hd> meaning it would continue
[06:17] <psycho_oreos> Crash1hd, yes but if you wanted to also copy stuff from MBR (usually when trying to migrate one hard disk data completely to another and make the target disk bootable) you need dd for instance to at least dump the MBR
[06:17] <Blue1> psycho_oreos: hmm I've had no issues with rsync and hidden files
[06:17] <GeekSquid> [gnubie]: and apache, and mysql, and dbus, and whatever else, not just physical users, but also system users, or anything that is in /etc/passwd ... including nobody
[06:18] <Crash1hd> I installed root / onto an ext4 drive and I am having trouble mounting it on windows when I need to access it and wanted to format it to ext3 so I created another partition and have been running dd for almost 5hrs now
[06:18] <psycho_oreos> Crash1hd, also dd is very handy for parsing the images to forensic utilities when needing to undelete files as dd dumps blocks for blocks unlike rsync which goes by pointers and therefore visible files
[06:18] <psycho_oreos> Blue1, read what I said above about deleted files :)
[06:18] <me__w> how do i share files with another lapi having win7 in it throungh a lan wire?????????
[06:18] <Blue1> Crash1hd: you can't mount a linux fs onto windows at least I have never done it
[06:18] <[gnubie]> GeekSquid: ok then. so, it's being used by whoever is in my /etc/passwd..
[06:19] <Crash1hd> theres 3rd party programs that allow it to work for ext3 just not ext4
[06:19] <Crash1hd> so I am trying to downgrade the ext
[06:19] <bobthemilkman> Blue1: Yeah you can. It just depends on the fs.
[06:19] <Danny78_> that's one small step for Dan, one giant leap for newbkind
[06:19] <Blue1> psycho_oreos: ymmv
[06:19] <psycho_oreos> Crash1hd, you need to make it ext3 first and under windows there's ext2ifs which treats ext3 as ext2 (without journaling support)
[06:19] <psycho_oreos> Blue1, ymmv?
[06:19] <Crash1hd> right which is what I am trying to do
[06:19] <Crash1hd> but dd is taking for ever
[06:19] <nit-wit> so wait is the native partitioner in Kubuntu, that channel is silent
[06:19] <nit-wit> *what
[06:19] <Blue1> psycho_oreos: your mileage may vary -- yes it's a logical instead of physical but it works fine
[06:20] <Crash1hd> I am almost thinking of scrapping it and just reinstalling ubuntu
[06:20] <Crash1hd> its a fresh install
[06:20] <bobthemilkman> Crash1hd: Yeah, dding the device might take quite a while.... It's probably be easier to copy the data back and forth.
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> nit-wit: kparted
[06:20] <psycho_oreos> Blue1, not when one wants to dump even the MBR which rsync isn't quite capable :)
[06:20] <Crash1hd> no customization
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> !info kparted
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[06:20] <aeonik> I have  dual boot with Ubuntu 64bit and Windows7 Professional, if I perform a Windows7 Recovery  (restore my laptop to factory state) will mess with my Ubuntu partition?
[06:21] <delroy_> anyone had any experience with sangoma cards?
[06:21] <bobthemilkman> If your device can write at 10MBps and is 500GB big, that'll take 50,000 seconds.
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> !info qtparted
[06:21] <bobthemilkman> Or about 10 hours?
[06:21] <Blue1> psycho_oreos: I never need to do that, so I just use rsync.  If I need to restore data, hey I can do that with a live cd if need be
[06:21] <psycho_oreos> Crash1hd, you could rsync the entire thing and then use dd to dump the MBR which contains grub, then use the dumped image to write back which should work
[06:21] <bobthemilkman> aeonik: Probably.
[06:21] <Danny78_> Thanks to everyone for all your help...  installing updates and may be back later  peace
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> !info partitionmanager
[06:21] <Crash1hd> hmm I have /boot on a different partition
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> yeah, that is qt based and is similar to gparted
[06:22] <bobthemilkman> You could always just copy the data and manually install GRUB. That's what I would do.
[06:22] <Blue1> bobthemilkman: yeah easy to do
[06:22] <bobthemilkman> Or just start from scratch. You said it's a fresh install, right?
[06:22] <Crash1hd> yes
[06:22] <nit-wit> ActionParsnip, thanks :)
[06:22] <psycho_oreos> Blue1, yeah you can do it with almost any bootable linux medium of your choice but like I said, I'm sure rsync isn't able to see files without pointers (i.e. user's deleted files and blocks that are usually waiting to be overwritten) and hidden parts like MBR which is where grub sits
[06:22] <bobthemilkman> Yeah, so why not do a fresh install? It'll take 15 minutes instead of 10 hours.
[06:23] <aeonik> thanks bobthemilkman, I will just back everything up then!
[06:23] <Blue1> psycho_oreos: correct, but I don't need it too
[06:23] <Crash1hd> the only customization I have done is added my accounts to empathy and custom menu bar and video driver
[06:23] <bobthemilkman> aeonik: What you should do is create a bootable linux flash drive.
[06:23] <Crash1hd> grub is on the /boot partition though right
[06:23] <GeekSquid> [gnubie]: if you want to read all about they have been having a discussion about it on launchpad going on 2 years, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/148454
[06:24] <psycho_oreos> Blue1, not as yet but in Crash1hd's case, should Crash1hd use rsync without copying the MBR cannot boot after the process is completed
[06:24] <bobthemilkman> aef: Actually, when you do the factory reset, it'll probably completely wipe everything.
[06:24] <Blue1> psycho_oreos: why copy the mbr, when you can just re-install grub.
[06:24] <bobthemilkman> But I think I did it one time and it only touched the windows partitions. It'll depend on the factory resetting program.
[06:24] <psycho_oreos> Crash1hd, yes and no, portions of it sits inside /boot/grub but the bootloader itself is hidden in the MBR
[06:25] <Crash1hd> psycho_oreos: ok which could be on /
[06:25] <psycho_oreos> Blue1, unless Crash1hd knows how to install grub bootloader, dd would probably be more times saving
[06:25] <Blue1> psycho_oreos: here's the recipe:  http://pkill-9.com/?p=314
[06:25] <psycho_oreos> Crash1hd, no its not even on /
[06:25] <Crash1hd> I am just trying to clone /
[06:25] <Crash1hd> and then clone it back after formatting it
[06:25] <Blue1> Crash1hd: if that is your goal then dd is best
[06:26] <bobthemilkman> If I were you, I'd just pop in a thumb drive and do "for i in $(ls / | grep -v dev | grep -v proc | grep -v sys | grep -v mnt | grep -v media); do cp -rfa /media/USBDRIVE; done
[06:26] <[gnubie]> GeekSquid: thanks for the link.. ;)
[06:27] <nit-wit> ActionParsnip, what is the graphic ie gksudo in ubuntu command in Kubuntu
[06:27] <bobthemilkman> Then run all your windows repair things, and then reinstall linux, and then do a cp -vrf /dev/USBDRIVE/* /
[06:27] <psycho_oreos> Blue1, I'm not saying its not possible, but a two lines of dd, one to dump and the other to write can really shorten the amount of steps as required from that link
[06:27] <bobthemilkman> aeonik: But that's just what I would do. There's 1000x other ways of doing it. :)
[06:27] <GeekSquid> I'm Out, Goodnight ubuntuers, goodmorning to those on the western coast of europe and africa ... some of us need sleeep
[06:28] <bobthemilkman> Oh woops!
[06:28] <aeonik> bobthemilkman: I have never tried that, I will give it a shot. First I need to get myself a sufficiently big drive!
[06:28] <bobthemilkman> "for i in $(ls / | grep -v dev | grep -v proc | grep -v sys | grep -v mnt | grep -v media); do cp -rfa /$i /media/USBDRIVE/; done"
[06:28] <bobthemilkman> Would be the correct one.
[06:28] <bobthemilkman> You could always use a different partition instead of a USB drive, or another computer via ssh, or something like that.
[06:29] <Crash1hd> thanks all for the help
[06:29] <bobthemilkman> Yeah, honestly if it were me, I wouldn't be using a USB drive, but actually sshing it to another machine.
[06:29] <psycho_oreos> sshfs ;)
[06:29] <bobthemilkman> Yes, sshfs is your friend. :)
[06:29] <psycho_oreos> well it makes life heck alot easier as compared to meddling with scp and then using pipes on the same line for instance
[06:29] <Syria> Hi, can I list the ip addresses for computers on my network?
[06:30] <psycho_oreos> Syria, no, not passively
[06:30] <bobthemilkman> Also, there's some method for reinstalling everything from aptitude, but I forgot how to do it off the top of my head.  At any rate, you could save your /home and /etc folders, and then just install ubuntu, and then copy the /home and /etc back in.
[06:30] <Syria> psycho_oreos I can do this on windows using norton so is there in program that I can use?
[06:30] <psycho_oreos> not passively and not unless if you're not a router/gateway in which all devices on your network must pass through
[06:31] <me__w> how do i share folder with win 7
[06:31] <psycho_oreos> me__w, you might want to ask that in ##windows
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> Syria: you can install clamav-daemon
[06:31] <r00t4rd3d> me__w, with samba
[06:31] <psycho_oreos> Syria, well I don't know how norton works
[06:31] <shawnboy> Can someone give me a simplified, practical explanation of fakeroot? I've read, but don't really grasp it.
[06:32] <bobthemilkman> Actually, win7 isn't 100% intercompatible with samba any more...
[06:32] <bobthemilkman> There's something special you have to do now...
[06:32] <Syria> ActionParsnip Thnx, I will install it now.
[06:32] <me__w> psycho_oreos: i was asking sharing with win7 and i having ubuntu
[06:32] <r00t4rd3d> psycho_oreos, how would people in windows know how to share a folder with ubuntu ?
[06:32] <me__w> r00t4rd3d: but how????
[06:32] <Syria> psycho_oreos I want to shutdown a remote machine.
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> Syria: is not needed unless yuo are running a file or mail server though
[06:32] <Doinkle> Hi.  Is it possible to install flash 10.2 on 32bit 10.10?  I ask because from what ive read it imples to be for x64.  Thanks.
[06:32] <shawnboy> bobthemilkman: I wasn't aware of that. What do you have to do special in Win 7 to share?
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> Syria: clamav-daemon is a realtime scanner of files
[06:33] <bobthemilkman> I don't remember the specifics.... I think you might have to do mount .... -o user=Guest....
[06:33] <bobthemilkman> Or something like that....
[06:33] <psycho_oreos> r00t4rd3d, he said: <me__w> how do i share folder with win 7 ... so how has that got to do with ubuntu when he did not include the words ubuntu in the query?
[06:33] <Syria> ActionParsnip Can I install it this way? sudo apt-get install clamav-daemon
[06:34] <bobthemilkman> It is implied that he wants to do it with an ubuntu box.
[06:34] <shawnboy> bobthemilkman: huh. I didn't know that.
[06:34] <bobthemilkman> shawnboy: Did it work?
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> Syria: sure https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ClamAV
[06:34] <psycho_oreos> me__w, you're not being specific either.. for ubuntu to see windows shares, for ubuntu to share directories/etc with windows, ???
[06:34] <shawnboy> bobthemilkman: I am not trying it, just caught your reply and was curious.
[06:34] <me__w> psycho_oreos: i was asking abt both
[06:34] <psycho_oreos> well I really didn't see it being implied, then again
[06:34] <r00t4rd3d> me__w, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-samba-server-on-ubuntu/
[06:35] <Crash1hd> haha ok so I jumped out a little too soon, I ran sudo kill -USR1 pid and it came back with dd at 95gb copied at 10.5Mb/s on a 102GB drive (how much longer will it take again?)
[06:35] <shawnboy> bobthemilkman: I'm trying to figure out what fakeroot is all about.
[06:35] <sunit> hello
[06:35] <timothytimbers> I have a second question. Would it be possible to build a computer that runs on steam (water) and get a simple prototype to run ubuntu? i can look at the ubuntu requirments and all that \
[06:35] <bobthemilkman> You shouldn't require fakeroot.
[06:35] <psycho_oreos> me__w, well bobthemilkman said something about one requiring extra steps to make win7 connect to ubuntu shares
[06:36] <bobthemilkman> Fakeroot is to make programs think they have root.  This is kind of strange and not very frequently required...
[06:36] <sunit> I am using ubuntu 8.04 LTS
[06:36] <bobthemilkman> (Usually it's better to just use root!)
[06:36] <psycho_oreos> Crash1hd, it doesn't tell you, you can only guess by judging the speed at which its going and how much spaces are left
[06:36] <Crash1hd> does that mean if my math is right 10.5*1024/60 is how much time per gb
[06:36] <shawnboy> bobthemilkman: I just installed pure-ftpd and pureadmin. Setting up, pureadmin has option for "use fakeroot" & says it's recommended. I was just curious.
[06:37] <timothytimbers> we can work out our hardware contract later.
[06:37] <bobthemilkman> You shouldn't need those. You shouldn't need anything aside from openssh, which should be installed in ubuntu by default
[06:37] <sunit> when I am trying : openbravo@vvecles:-$ sudo su
[06:37] <Crash1hd> haha I was going to cancel it and theres like 5Gb left lol
[06:37] <psycho_oreos> Crash1hd, I'd say 10.5*1000/60 for GB per minutes
[06:38] <Crash1hd> why 1000 and not 1024?
[06:38] <sunit> I am getting openbravo is not a sudoers file. This incident will be reported
[06:38] <ajwill> hi all I have a quick question
[06:38] <shawnboy> bobthemilkman: when you say "just use root" do you mean sudo?
[06:38] <bobthemilkman> Yeah
[06:38] <bobthemilkman> Or if that fails, sudo -s, then the command.
[06:38] <bobthemilkman> If you have root on the box, you should never require fakeroot, unless there's some obscure reason.
[06:39] <eremyja> sunit: edit the /etc/sudoers file
[06:39] <ajwill> I've mainly used firefox for the past while, but there are some error's it causes my computer, I do however love chrome, only problem is, my flash player in chrome is extremely laggy, help?
[06:39] <psycho_oreos> Crash1hd, its not denoted as binary measurement but rather Si
[06:39] <Crash1hd> ahh right
[06:39] <kaushal> hi
[06:39] <kaushal> is there a way to calculate CIDR from Netmask ?
[06:39] <sunit> eremyja : but It's a CLI server.
[06:39] <bobthemilkman> Try mount -o nfs 192.168.X.X /mnt -o user=Guest
[06:39] <psycho_oreos> Crash1hd, actually I could be wrong but have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix
[06:40] <bobthemilkman> Or just sudo mount -o nfs 192.168.X.X /mnt -o user=Guest
[06:40] <eremyja> sunit: it will have examples, i think the part you want is towrads the end
[06:40] <eremyja> sunit: use nano /etc/sudoers
[06:40] <bobthemilkman> You might not need the -o user=Guest, but I think there was something strange where Win7 requires *some* value in the user field, even if it's a nonexisting user.
[06:40] <Doinkle> ajwill, is flash full screen slow in other browsers too?
[06:40] <shawnboy> bobthemilkman: thanks for the info. That's the kind of info I was looking for.
[06:40] <bobthemilkman> Oh woops!
[06:40] <bobthemilkman> I mean sudo mount -t nfs, not -o nfs.
[06:41] <sunit> eremyja : to edit I have to use sudo nano /etc/sudoers
[06:41] <Doinkle> ajwill, message me.
[06:41] <ajwill> Doinkle, nope, in firefox I have flash running fine, I can do full screen or just windowed, but in chrome even just watching a youtube (non fullscreen) is laggy and horrible
[06:41] <psycho_oreos> sunit, I wouldn't do that, normally one is supposed to use visudo
[06:41] <Crash1hd> thanks again :)
[06:41] <Doinkle> ajwill, i just found a fix for my own flash problem, msg me and ill paste what i tried..and worked for me
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> sunit: use:  export EDITOR=nano; sudo visudo
[06:42] <eremyja> psycho_oreos: thats right, forgot about that.. oops :/
[06:43] <bobthemilkman> sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.X.X /mnt -o user=Guest.  If you want to mount more than every now and then, you might want to modify your /etc/fstab file to automount it, and create a folder like /media/network and share it there.
[06:43] <Jamesuperfun> Hello. Would anyone need help with anything?
[06:43] <bobthemilkman> Although I believe /mnt/network is the appropriate subfolder to use.
[06:43] <babaji> i want  to learn what actualy going on when a software instals n ubuntu
[06:43] <me__w> can anyone pls tell me how to share folder my ubuntu with win 7
[06:43] <psycho_oreos> eremyja, well now you know :) afaik sudoers file has some sort of checksum, most likely MD5 to prevent file being tampered
[06:43] <bobthemilkman> Anyway, google the terms, "mount" "nfs" "smbfs" and you should be able to do it.
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> me__w: install samba and you can use nautilus to share folder
[06:44] <babaji> and none of my drives are getting open , they are getting open in vlc player when i click on them?
[06:44] <me__w> ActionParsnip: how to use nautilus
[06:44] <Jamesuperfun> well
[06:44] <Jamesuperfun> lets see, me_w
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> me__w: its the default file manager in Ubuntu
[06:44] <eremyja> Psycho_oreos: yeah, learned that the hard way unfortunately..  surprised i forgot so soon!
[06:45] <babaji> i want  to learn what actualy going on when a software instals n ubuntu
[06:45] <me__w> ActionParsnip: but how do i use it,from terminal????/
[06:45] <babaji> and none of my drives are getting open , they are getting open in vlc player when i click on them?
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> me__w: in a server you'll need to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:45] <psycho_oreos> babaji, normally the software goes into packages and can be varied from distro to distro, under ubuntu those software packages usually have the file extension .deb
[06:45] <chalcedony> hi ActionParsnip :)
[06:45] <eremyja> me__w: no gui at all?
[06:45] <Jamesuperfun> I would see it as the easiest way(if you just dont want to go through a lot of folders) to buy a USB memory stick. 2GB models are avalible for about $5 if you look.
[06:45] <psycho_oreos> eremyja, time to make a mental note ;)
[06:46] <babaji> psycho_oreos: can i get documentation or some kind of book about it??
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> hi chalcedony
[06:46] <eremyja> me__w: if thats the case then you dont have/cant use nautilus
[06:47] <psycho_oreos> babaji, you might be interested in looking into DEB package management HOWTO on internet
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> eremyja: s/he went
[06:47] <eremyja> actionparsnip: yeah, just noticed...
[06:48] <babaji> psycho_oreos: thanks man, and also i am unable to open any of my hard disk drives, by default when i click on them they get open in vlc player!!
[06:48] <chalcedony> ActionParsnip, or anyone.. my husband can't find how to turn down his bass in ubuntu 10.10 .. does he need to convert it to alsa?
[06:49] <psycho_oreos> babaji, something is messed up there, it could be the file manager you are using I think
[06:49] <babaji> Ppsycho_oreos: sorry for telling man......i don't know whther u r m or f. sorry for that
[06:49] <nit-wit> ActionParsnip, can I open a dialogue with you for a question
[06:49] <babaji> psycho_oreos: so how can i make work it back to normal.
[06:50] <psycho_oreos> babaji, that doesn't matter really
[06:50] <babaji> psycho_oreos: :)
[06:50] <psycho_oreos> babaji, I'm not sure exactly how :) I don't use nautilus (default ubuntu/gnome file manager)
[06:51] <babaji> psycho_oreos: so how can i remove nautalius.
[06:52] <psycho_oreos> babaji, I wouldn't do that :)
[06:52] <wsx> ？？？
[06:52] <psycho_oreos> !cn| wsx
[06:52] <wsx> 可以打字？
[06:52] <babaji> psycho_oreos so is there any way to make it work proper?
[06:53] <psycho_oreos> wsx, not in here, this channel is for English only
[06:53] <wsx> oh god!
[06:53] <psycho_oreos> babaji, I'd look into something like file associations for example
[06:54] <psycho_oreos> wsx, join in either #ubuntu-cn, #ubuntu-tw or #ubuntu-hk
[06:55] <eremyja> babaji, try uninstalling vlc? might correct associations.. then u could reinstall
[06:56] <bonjoyee> babaji: just delete .gnome2 .gconf .config .local folders from home, logout and login again..that should reset to the default ubuntu settings
[06:56] <babaji> eremyja: ya that might work, let me try it  up
[06:57] <babaji> bonjoyee: trying it
[06:57] <sunit> ActionParsnip: when I tried with export EDITOR=nano; sudo visudo
[06:59] <sunit> I was asked for password and I got the same error as openbravo is not the sudoer file
[06:59] <bobthemilkman> sunit: You might need to relogin before it takes effect.
[06:59] <babaji> eremyja:thanks for ur help, it worked. :) :)
[07:00] <sunit> ok
[07:00] <xtc__> Hi
[07:01] <xtc__> good morning :)
[07:01] <babaji> bonjoyee:can i change my nautalius file manager to other file managers?
[07:01] <eremyja> babaji, glad to be of assistance
[07:01] <Jamesuperfun> hello
[07:01] <wsx> hello every one
[07:01] <Jamesuperfun> hello
[07:01] <psycho_oreos> sunit, hmm I'd try `sudo export EDITOR=nano && visudo'
[07:01] <Jamesuperfun> Anyone need helping fix something that ISNT terminal related?
[07:02] <wsx> Here is where ?
[07:02] <babaji> eremyja: :D
[07:03] <psycho_oreos> wsx, what do you mean here? this channel?
[07:03] <aarcane> wsx, #ubuntu, in the united states.  long distance charges may applu.
[07:03] <wsx> yes
[07:04] <eremyja> sunit: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-162353.html read a little past half way down
[07:04] <eremyja> sunit: 5-HT's first post
[07:05] <babaji> even when i delete something, than also the files get permenantly deleted instead of going to trash can?
[07:05] <psycho_oreos> wsx, this channel along with other channels on this network are based in either US or EU mostly, depending on which server you are connecting from. The channel alone consists of mostly English speakers
[07:05] <MeatMcBadass> Can anyone tell me how to get my network icon back on my task bar?
[07:06] <psycho_oreos> babaji, you could try holding shift, select the file that needs to be permanently deleted and hit the delete button on you keyboard
[07:07] <psycho_oreos> MeatMcBadass, hmm you might want to try right clicking on the panel and click on add new item, from there check to see if network manager or nm-applet, etc is available from the list
[07:07] <psycho_oreos> babaji, s/you/your/
[07:08] <judgen> howdy
[07:08] <MeatMcBadass> Yeah, neither is there:?
[07:08] <babaji> psycho_oreos: after deleting the file it does go to trash can instead gets directly deleted!!
[07:08] <psycho_oreos> MeatMcBadass, it might not be add new item, but something similar
[07:08] <judgen> what is the common sollutions to /dev/fb0 failed
[07:08] <psycho_oreos> babaji, even when holding shift key?
[07:09] <MeatMcBadass> I have add new pannel properties delete and add to pannel
[07:09] <eremyja> meatmcbadass: quoting bonjoyee: 'just delete .gnome2 .gconf .config .local folders from home, logout and login again..that should reset to the default ubuntu settings' just a possibility
[07:09]  * korben greets all
[07:09] <babaji> psycho_oreos: ya
[07:09] <psycho_oreos> MeatMcBadass, try add to panel instead
[07:09] <psycho_oreos> babaji, weird, I dunno then :)
[07:10] <Jamesuperfun> Anyone need help with anything?
[07:10] <Jamesuperfun> Thats NOT getting help?
[07:10] <r00t4rd3d> !panelreset | MeatMcBadass
[07:10] <babaji> psyco_oreos: no prob neways thanks for the help
[07:10] <Jamesuperfun> WARNING: I suck with terminal.
[07:10] <Jamesuperfun> Now I think of it, I have an issue.  I am using 10.10? Please help
[07:17] <psycho_oreos> Jamesuperfun, hmm hard to diagnose when you're using broadcom's proprietary driver, it might be acpi issue
[07:17] <r00t4rd3d> Jamesuperfun, in a terminal sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[07:17] <Jamesuperfun> ok then
[07:18] <psycho_oreos> !grub2| abe
[07:18] <r00t4rd3d> Jamesuperfun, have you installed that already ?
[07:18] <Jamesuperfun> yup
[07:18] <Jamesuperfun> its fully up-to-date
[07:19] <psycho_oreos> Jamesuperfun, pastebin your `dmesg' output
[07:19] <Jamesuperfun> ok
[07:19] <r00t4rd3d> Jamesuperfun, try the b43 driver https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Installing%20b43%20drivers
[07:19] <israfil> hello, when i try to compile a program i get an error concerning QGLWidget. I use Kubuntu Hardy Heron. What have i to install?
[07:20] <r00t4rd3d> sta is broadcoms driver and b43 is the open source one. People have different luck with each.
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> exit
[07:20] <Jamesuperfun> http://pastebin.com/gkcVZmtx
[07:20] <abe> ubottu: I was using 10.04 in my second HDD, and 10.10 in first one. After 10.04 crashed, I have installed Windows on it. But the grub menu is not updated. It shows old entries in boot menu. i.e. of 10.10 and 10.04
[07:20] <Jamesuperfun> ok ill try
[07:20] <r00t4rd3d> Jamesuperfun, whats rfkill list say ?
[07:20] <psycho_oreos> Jamesuperfun, you'll need to unload wl first prior to using b43 and to prevent wl from loading you'll need to blacklist it
[07:20] <FishFace> Heh. I am doing a Broadcom BCM4306 as we speak :)
[07:21] <Jamesuperfun> ok
[07:21] <abe> ubottu: So, how to make it show windows entry in grub 2 menu? Just updating the grub will work?
[07:21] <Jamesuperfun> lol i fel like a total n00b in this
[07:22] <psycho_oreos> Jamesuperfun, for some reason that output of dmesg isn't complete
[07:22] <Philo> Hilarious
[07:22] <Jamesuperfun> ya
[07:22] <psycho_oreos> abe, you'll need to edit the config file as per ubottu's link
[07:22] <Jamesuperfun> i posted the whole terminal window
[07:23] <Jamesuperfun> it didnt seem to fit i had other commands you gave me and they dissapeared
[07:23] <abe> psycho_oreos: ok
[07:23] <psycho_oreos> Jamesuperfun, I think there's more than that for some reason, do this `sudo aptitude install pastebinit && dmesg| pastebinit -'
[07:24] <eremyja> jamesuperfun, you could try piping ur commands then reading the file
[07:24] <abe>  psycho_oreos: I will try it and let you know. Have a nice time!
[07:24] <abe> :)
[07:25] <Jamesuperfun> ok it gave me a pastebin link
[07:25] <psycho_oreos> abe, good luck :)
[07:25] <psycho_oreos> Jamesuperfun, paste me that pastebin link :)
[07:25] <eremyja> or that.. psycho_oreos, im starting to think ur to good... :P
[07:25] <Jamesuperfun> ok
[07:25] <psycho_oreos> eremyja, my method is less time consuming and more direct :)
[07:25] <battlehands> I downloaded a youtube video downloaded from the ubuntu software center.  It is not displayed in my applications drop down menu.  Do I need to activate it?  If not, how can I access it.
[07:25] <Jamesuperfun> http://pastebin.com/BMuHSR1j
[07:25] <psycho_oreos> eremyja, I'm not that good yet :p much to learn
[07:26] <Jamesuperfun> maybe we should try and fix this later? I have like 2 mins
[07:27] <bluegoon> Hey guys, is there a way to monitor bandwidth usage over an interface? (3G device)
[07:27] <spymouth> Hello. I'm trying to make a 'live usb' rather than using a dvd. I'm using usb-creator-gtk in ubuntu 10.04 but when I select my iso(linux mint debian) it does not appear. When I select an ubuntu iso it will appear. Any ideas?
[07:27] <psycho_oreos> Jamesuperfun, hmm well I suppose you could try ask again later when you have more time I suppose
[07:27] <sugoruyo> bluegoon: there probably are more than a few of those, what exactly do you want to do?
[07:28] <Jamesuperfun> ok thanks
[07:28] <Jamesuperfun> does it look hopeful? I can use a ethernet cable, but its not too easy
[07:28] <psycho_oreos> spymouth, try using unetbootin instead
[07:29] <psycho_oreos> Jamesuperfun, wl driver is not the best choice, and the support for that specific chipset via b43 (community derived) is slowly maturing
[07:30] <Jordan_U> spymouth: Ubuntu's Live USB creator only works with Ubuntu images. Try unetbootin.
[07:30] <bluegoon> sugoruyo, hey man, Ive got a 5 gig cap and wish to monitor my usage
[07:31] <spymouth> Thanks for the fast reply. I've just installed unetbootin and I'm trying it now.
[07:31] <eremyja> bluegoon, 3g tethering/mobile?
[07:32] <Syria> Why i can't change the folder permession? failed to change mode of `uploads' to 0000 (---------)
[07:32] <psycho_oreos> bluegoon, how much detail do you need for data usage monitoring? for starters there's gkrellm which monitors per interface and generates a daily, weekly and monthly tables for both upload and download on that interface
[07:33] <psycho_oreos> Syria, maybe you don't have ownership to that file/directory
[07:33] <bluegoon> psycho_oreos, that sounds good man, I just need a data usage monitor thats it
[07:33]  * eremyja is tired and saying stupid things..time to go! good night!
[07:33] <Syria> psycho_oreos Actually the folder uploads was not existed, wordpress did not create it automatically as usual. thank you
[07:34] <psycho_oreos> nite eremyja
[07:34] <psycho_oreos> bluegoon, fair enough, enjoy :)
[07:34] <shawnboy> Anyone have success installing ftp server? I can't get pure-ftpd and pureadmin to work
[07:34] <psycho_oreos> Syria, there you go
[07:35] <Guest88842> try vsftp @shawnboy
[07:36] <blink> is there a guide on installing GTK+ and themes?
[07:36] <bluegoon> Thanks dude, im sorted :)
[07:36] <cricketeer> I am currently logged onto and using Windows Vista with a working wireless connection. I have just installed Ubuntu 10.10 alongside Vista on my computer. I cannot connect to wired or wireless connections in Ubuntu. My wired card is a Broadcom Netlink (TM) Gigabit Ethernet, and my wireless card is a Dell Wireless 1397 WLAN Mini-Card. I understand these drivers need to be downloaded and...
[07:36] <bluegoon> GKrellM ftw
[07:36] <cricketeer> ...installed onto Ubuntu, which can be done via Additional Drivers under Administration. Naturally, I can't download these drivers because I have no way to connect to the internet in Ubuntu. How can I install these drivers onto Ubuntu (if that is in fact what I need to do)?
[07:37] <psycho_oreos> bluegoon, there maybe some complications with using it, such as for example if you're using the same interface for local LAN traffic, gkrellm cannot distinguish the differences
[07:38] <bluegoon> psycho_oreos, No lan traffic, just a 3G dongle, I have the interface up as ppp0
[07:39] <psycho_oreos> bluegoon, ahh that should be all good then, and also provided that you don't plug that dongle anywhere else too :) I have wireless broadband (3G) connected to a router and I connect using ethernet. gkrellm collects statistics from data going to 3G and other computers within the network :)
[07:40] <bluegoon> Nice :)
[07:40] <psycho_oreos> cricketeer, hmm do you happen to have some other form of network connection?
[07:40] <cricketeer> I have no way at all to access the internet in Ubuntu.
[07:41] <mysteriousdarren> specifics?
[07:41] <shawnboy> Guest88842:  i'll lokok at vsftp
[07:41] <psycho_oreos> cricketeer, that's going to be quite difficult, normally broadcom wired should be supported but then again.. that dell wireless could be anything so I need something like `lspci -nnk' output
[07:42] <battlehands> I downloaded a youtube video downloaded from the ubuntu software center.  It is not displayed in my applications drop down menu.  Do I need to activate it?  If not, how can I access it.
[07:42] <cricketeer> Ah...how can I provide that?
[07:43] <psycho_oreos> cricketeer, by booting into linux.. and because you don't have internet access, you will need to copy and paste the output into a file in which windows can access (its only ASCII text)
[07:44] <cricketeer> Okay, so in Terminal I should type in "lspci -nnk"?
[07:44] <cricketeer> (Sans quotation marks, natch.)
[07:45] <bluegoon> After the USB install of ubuntu 10.10, it seems Windows 7 has gone, how do I modify the grub loader?
[07:45] <psycho_oreos> cricketeer, no, without quotes
[07:46] <cricketeer> Yes, exactly.
[07:46] <psycho_oreos> cricketeer, yup
[07:46] <cricketeer> And then put the ensuing text into a suitable file and stick it somewhere where I can get to it in Windows.
[07:46] <hellnest> how to fix un-themed application when using root privilege?
[07:47] <psycho_oreos> cricketeer, yes but when you're back in windows with internet access, you will need to paste the contents of the file into pastebin and then paste the link to the pastebin into the channel here
[07:47] <Recordable> Anyone got an idea how to make my pen tablet work? I followed the guide on the forums but it's not working
[07:47] <hellnest> already try to run gksu gnome-appearance-properties but still can't change the theme.
[07:47] <bluegoon> Anyone here with an ATI 5850?
[07:47] <bluegoon> Able to download ATI drivers for ubuntu?
[07:47] <cricketeer> Got it, psycho.
[07:47] <cricketeer> I'll be back in a few minutes. Thanks a bunch.
[07:47] <psycho_oreos> bluegoon, hmm you could have a look at grub.cfg, but there might be an easier method, that is to use liveUSB to boot ubuntu into rescue mode and reinstall grub from there
[07:48] <bluegoon> psycho_oreos, will check it out, thanks
[07:49] <bluegoon> Does 10.10 support ATI well?
[07:49] <psycho_oreos> bluegoon, it heavily depends on chipset version
[07:50] <psycho_oreos> ATi's support on linux in general has been flaky
[07:50] <bluegoon> ok
[07:50] <bluegoon> Seems 5xxx series is OK
[07:50] <psycho_oreos> !ati| bluegoon
[07:50] <bluegoon> Cheers thanks
[07:51] <psycho_oreos> nw
[07:51] <abe> psycho_oreos, sudo update-grub2 made everything alright! Thanks for the help! Cheers!
[07:52] <psycho_oreos> abe, there you go :) nw
[07:56] <cricketeer> psycho: Here's the information.
[07:56] <Gumby> hi all.  just wondering how/where nautilus creates and sets permissions for shares.  Can this be done manually or only through nautilus itself?  Does it use samba at all?
[07:56] <cricketeer> 04:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
[07:56] <cricketeer> 	Subsystem: Dell Wireless 1397 WLAN Mini-Card [1028:000c]
[07:56] <cricketeer> 	Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge
[07:56] <cricketeer> 	Kernel modules: ssb
[07:56] <cricketeer> 08:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5784M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe [14e4:1698] (rev 10)
[07:56] <FloodBot1> cricketeer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:56] <sonictk> hi, anyone willing to help out with a ubuntu 10.10 boot problem?
[07:57] <sonictk> i.e. unable to boot
[07:57] <bluegoon> psycho_oreos, there seems to be a ATI binary driver (?) in the software center
[07:57] <psycho_oreos> bluegoon, I'd use that then, fglrx will give you faster rendering in general and lower CPU overhead usage
[07:57] <psycho_oreos> !broadcom| cricketeer
[07:58] <cricketeer> Crackers. Let me try again.
[07:58] <bluegoon> psycho_oreos, cool beans
[07:58] <cricketeer> ubottu: No luck there, sorry.
[07:58] <cricketeer> ...
[07:58] <psycho_oreos> cricketeer, don't paste more than 3 lines because its known as flooding
[07:58] <cricketeer> psycho: Yes, it was an honest mistake. I didn't understand what you meant by pastebin.
[07:58] <psycho_oreos> !pastebin| cricketeer
[07:59] <psycho_oreos> should ask when in doubt :)
[07:59] <cricketeer> Anyway, did the information come through or shall I use pastebin?
[07:59] <Jordan_U> bluegoon: Did you get your problem solved?
[07:59] <psycho_oreos> cricketeer, the wireless part came through which I got the bot to give you a link on howto install it
[07:59] <zruty> Is there a way I can connect to my Ubuntu PC using VNC before login ?
[08:00] <psycho_oreos> cricketeer, try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43%20-%20No%20Internet%20access
[08:00] <bluegoon> Jordan_U, hi man, the boot issue
[08:00] <bluegoon> Jordan_U, ?
[08:00] <Jordan_U> bluegoon: Yes.
[08:01] <bluegoon> Jordan_U, still updating Ubuntu, afterwards ill look into finding a gui based boot manager maybe
[08:01] <cricketeer> Okay, let me jot that down and give it a shot. (I'm really learning as I go along here.)
[08:01] <Jordan_U> bluegoon: All you should need to do is run "sudo update-grub" to have an entry for windows added automatically.
[08:01] <bluegoon> Jordan_U, its strange that grub doesnt present options on boot, it just goes straight to ubuntu, though it has been installed on a different hard drive.
[08:01] <cricketeer> I'll come back with results soon. Sorry again for the flooding.
[08:02] <bluegoon> Jordan_U, Thank you, let me try
[08:02] <Jordan_U> bluegoon: You're welcome.
[08:02] <psycho_oreos> cricketeer, make sure to download all necessary files from  that link too before proceeding
[08:02] <cricketeer> Yes, got it.
[08:02] <cricketeer> Here goes nothin'...
[08:04] <bluegoon> Jordan_U, Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-22-generic
[08:04] <bluegoon> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-22-generic
[08:04] <bluegoon> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[08:04] <[1]sonictk> hi, um I'm just going to go ahead and ask: I recently installed ubuntu 10.10 netbook remix, after updating the kernel via the update manager like I was prompted, ubuntu now refuses to boot, all I get is a blinking cursor, no terminal, nothing
[08:05] <GutZuWiSSeN> hi .. is it possible to open an .pages (MAC) file on ubuntu? or convert it? any ideas?
[08:05] <[1]sonictk> if I try recovery mode I get to the line [1.583106] ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133 and then nothing else
[08:06] <Guest88842> \commands
[08:06] <psycho_oreos> [1]sonictk, I'd try getting into grub2 menu (there should be a key for that), edit the kernel line to not have the words `quiet', `splash' and append the words `noacpi'. Then try booting it, you might see stuff on the screen
[08:08] <tommy__> !wireless
[08:08] <[1]sonictk> @psycho_oreos: is that basically um editing the grub commands before booting?
[08:08] <psycho_oreos> [1]sonictk, correct
[08:08] <[1]sonictk> there's no "quiet" or "splash" strings in there
[08:09] <desaiu> the guake application doesn't have true transparency anymore, any reason why? it previously did show windows underneath it, now it just hogs space and doesn't let me see anything underneath it
[08:09] <yayoj1> [1]sonictk: would you mind letting people on here know if any success with 10.10 netbook remix?  I was going to install on my new netbook but have been reading about some problems people have been having on blogs.  And then on facebook, a few videos of never ending bugs show as switching applications via side bar or dock.
[08:09] <psycho_oreos> [1]sonictk, the first thing you will see is the various OS/kernel choices, you have to go into edit mode and then you should see I think 4 lines, one of which contains the word `kernel'
[08:09] <yayoj1> sorry not facebook, youtube.
[08:10] <[1]sonictk> @yayoj1: I got it working, but after I updated the kernel via update manager, GRUB works, and I can select my OS to boot, but Ubuntu won't boot for some reason
[08:10] <fishscene> Hello. I'm trying to setup a DHCP server on Ubuntu server and I'm having a WICKID time trying to get it running. syslog says "No subnet declaration for eth0 (<IP_ADDRESS>)."
[08:10] <chaospsychex> you have to set the subnet
[08:10] <fishscene> I'm using this as a tutorial: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-and-configure-dhcp-server-in-ubuntu-server.html
[08:10] <shawnboy> I've looked at vsftpd and pureftpd... I'm getting frustrated. Is there not an ftp server for Linux that is easy to get going?
[08:10] <fishscene> How do I set the subnet?
[08:10] <chaospsychex> <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:10] <chaospsychex> try that
[08:10] <fishscene> ?
[08:11] <[1]sonictk> @psycho_oreos: I appended "noacpi" to the boot options but I'm still stuck at
[08:11] <battlehands> I downloaded a youtube video downloaded from the ubuntu software center.  It is not displayed in my applications drop down menu.  Do I need to activate it?  If not, how can I access it.
[08:11] <[1]sonictk> @psycho_oreos: 1.583070 ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133 when it boots
[08:11] <chaospsychex> theres not a input field where you can choose the subnet?
[08:11] <fishscene> in dhcp.conf?
[08:11] <chaospsychex> yeah check it out
[08:12] <yayoj1> [1]sonictk: I have been told the netbook remix sucks, no matter which version of ubuntu remix you download.  I have known people to just install the desktop version on the netbooks
[08:12] <psycho_oreos> [1]sonictk, hmm I need lot more information than that, maybe pastebin 10 lines prior to that
[08:12] <chaospsychex> probably something like subnet=''
[08:12] <fishscene> Hang on, let me post my dhcp config
[08:12] <chaospsychex> yeah do that
[08:12] <fishscene> Nope, nothing like that in the dhcp conf
[08:12] <chaospsychex> pastebin.org your conf file
[08:12] <[1]sonictk> @psycho_oreos: rg, hang on
[08:13] <yayoj1> [1]sonictk: I am still very curios to install and try for myself.
[08:13] <shawnboy> just wondering.
[08:13] <shawnboy> I guess nobody uses ftp servers
[08:13] <fishscene> Do you have the IP address of pastebin? My ISP randomly blocks dns requests.
[08:13] <yayoj1> shawnboy: whats your question about ftp servers?
[08:13] <chaospsychex> i don't
[08:14] <ohzie> Hey guys. How do I do a static IP map in my resolv.conf without NetworkManager overwriting it?
[08:14] <fishscene> chaospsychex: http://pastebin.com/WQccXG4j
[08:14] <psycho_oreos> ohzie, why not just add the static IP map into nm-applet?
[08:14] <chaospsychex> one sec fish
[08:15] <fishscene> NP mate.
[08:16] <ohzie> psycho_oreos: I don't see any global dns configuration in nm-applet. It's all connection-specific.
[08:16] <shawnboy> yayoj1: just looking for one that i can get up and running relatively easily.
[08:16] <ohzie> psycho_oreos: and it's just setting nameservers, not static resolutions.
[08:16] <rww> DarkstarC4: no thanks
[08:16] <shawnboy> tried pure-ftpd. came close, but won't let me login
[08:17] <ohzie> shawnboy: If you're looking for something quick and not painful to set up, don't use FTP at all. Just go with SSH and winscp/filezilla. =D
[08:17] <psycho_oreos> ohzie, well that's true its all connection specific but the only other way I know it is using a dirty hack which makes it only you can edit the file
[08:17] <[1]sonictk> @psycho_oreos: typing the output is a bitch... http://pastebin.com/AFFG9Kxc
[08:17] <ohzie> shawnboy: if you need to jail people into their home directories, there are a few how-tos I found on google.
[08:17] <psycho_oreos> and that works on only ext fs
[08:17] <maco> [1]sonictk: language please
[08:18] <[1]sonictk> sorry
[08:18] <ohzie> psycho_oreos: Thank you for trying. :( <3
[08:19] <psycho_oreos> [1]sonictk, hmm bugger, that output isn't any useful either, it could be anything..
[08:19] <[1]sonictk> hmm does ubuntu write its startup boot log to a file or anything that I can grab via Terminal or something
[08:19] <shawnboy> i use scp sometimes but it's a pain when dealing with lots of files within folders. I read the pure-ftpd and pureadmin howto but I still can't login
[08:19] <psycho_oreos> ohzie, the hack works but its very nasty :) done it before way back before networkmanager was even conceived
[08:20] <psycho_oreos> shawnboy, for that you use sshfs
[08:20] <yayoj1> shawnboy: I really got to like gFTP
[08:20] <psycho_oreos> yayoj1, that's a client not a daemon
[08:20] <spicemaster> y0
[08:21] <[1]sonictk> @psycho_oreos: thanks, actually I had to reinstall ubuntu previously to get it booting again...but then when I updated the kernel via update manager this happened again. This is actually my 2nd experience with a Linux distro, so is keeping the kernel updated important? or can I just leave it and you know, get work done?
[08:21] <spicemaster> i have ubuntu version 8 can i update it to maverick ?
[08:21] <maco> spicemaster: 8.04 can update to 10.04 (lucid) -- 8.10 can only update to 9.04
[08:21] <kinabalu> ubuntu and me didn't play nice today.  first XGi graphics card woes ... then I installed a GeForce 9500 GT and that also failed miserably :(
[08:22] <psycho_oreos> [1]sonictk, usually updating kernel provides more features usually, or bug fixes, etc.. but it seems as though you're constantly having issues with the newly downloaded and installed kernel which is quite weird
[08:22] <shawnboy> psycho_oreos: I'm interested in sshfs, but FTP is pretty common still and would like to get it working.
[08:22] <tarek> hi
[08:22] <shawnboy> yayoj1: I haven't looked at gFTPd but have tried pureftpd and vsftpd.
[08:23] <shawnboy> I get problems logging in.
[08:23] <[1]sonictk> @psycho_oreos: I know, at first I thought maybe it was because I was updating over wifi and the download process was interrupted or something (not sure how ubuntu downloads work, do they verify checksums before installing?) so I tried again, still the same
[08:24] <[1]sonictk> @psycho_oreos: hmm is there anything I can do via GRUB to get ubuntu to spit out its bootup log to a file or something
[08:24] <yayoj1> shawnboy: I was gonna suggest vsftpd, it's pretty simple
[08:24] <psycho_oreos> shawnboy, I have at one stage got pureftpd to work without using the pure-admin but it was a pita imo
[08:24] <shawnboy> psycho_oreos: took words out of my mouth about pure-ftpd.
[08:24] <yayoj1> shawnboy: I don't know of to many more for Ubuntu
[08:24] <spicemaster> maco, ohhh i see
[08:25] <sunit> psycho_oreos and eremyja :  sudo export EDITOR=nano && visudo lead to password prompt. Giving password I got : openbravo is not in sudoers file
[08:25] <shawnboy> crap, when I was on Windows I just installed Filezilla server and was done with it.
[08:25] <shawnboy> I thought FTPd and linux would go together like hand and glove.
[08:25] <psycho_oreos> [1]sonictk, hmm I'm not sure if the individually downloaded deb files are checked prior to installing.. as for bootup logs, it usually sits inside the /var/log/ directory, something like dmesg.log
[08:25] <fadli> hi there
[08:25] <shawnboy> proving not to be so easy
[08:25] <sunit> how should I edit the file ?
[08:25] <fadli> any malaysian here
[08:25] <celthunder> shawnboy, there's lots of ftpd's for linux
[08:26] <Myrtti> !my | fadli
[08:26] <psycho_oreos> shawnboy, well you can't really compare windows and linux like that.. they were meant to be targeted for different audiences
[08:26] <[1]sonictk> oh wait. does NOT installing GRUB to the root of the hard drive have anything to do with it? cause I have a OSX install on another partition and had to install GRUB to a different partition instead so that Chameleon bootloader would be the first one to load...
[08:27] <[1]sonictk> oh wait
[08:27] <[1]sonictk> I can't mount my partition from grub huh
[08:27] <psycho_oreos> [1]sonictk, no it shouldn't because you have had unr working, no?
[08:27] <[1]sonictk> I did
[08:27] <shawnboy> psycho_oreos: true, but it's a little irritating to not be able to just get a basic FTPd up and going, then customize as necessary.
[08:27] <[1]sonictk> until I updated the kernel, so I dunno if somehow that screwed it up
[08:27] <psycho_oreos> [1]sonictk, grub has limited set of features, it can't really mount disks afaik
[08:27] <[1]sonictk> cause I guess I'm not supposed to install 2 bootloaders am I :X
[08:27] <shawnboy> celthunder: and they all seem to require obscure steps to setup and get working.
[08:28] <celthunder> shawnboy, don't know what you're doing but vsftpd or proftpd work pretty much out of the box for me
[08:28] <celthunder> even setting up other auth methods doesn't take too long
[08:29] <[1]sonictk> ack. should I just live with reinstalling ubuntu again and not updating the kernel? is that, I don't know safe, etc. I am totally clueless about Linux and Ubuntu apart from the basic Terminal commands.
[08:29] <[1]sonictk> *if it's safe
[08:30] <tommy__> yea shawnboy vsftpd works without much effort
[08:30] <psycho_oreos> shawnboy, there's plenty of other softwares out there that requires one to tinker around a bit to get things to work. Granted that its not easy but think of it as a challenge to contribute in your learning curve
[08:30] <celthunder> [1]sonictk, if its just updateing the kernel that broke don't you have a fallback?
[08:30] <GutZuWiSSeN> hi .. is it possible to open an .pages (MAC) file on ubuntu? or convert it? any ideas?
[08:30] <celthunder> [1]sonictk, boot with that and change the fallback to be your normal kernel
[08:30] <[1]sonictk> @celthunder: what do you mean by fallback?
[08:31] <shawnboy> psycho_oreos: I usually do. I guess tonight I was in mood of just wanting to get something working in 5 minutes ...like pureftpd's website claims.
[08:31] <[1]sonictk> @celthunder: you mean previous kernel version?
[08:31] <psycho_oreos> [1]sonictk, like another kernel inside the grub menu
[08:31] <celthunder> [1]sonictk, yeah when it updates it should add a fallback to the grub menu for your previous kernel
[08:31] <[1]sonictk> @celthunder: yes, I tried that AND its recovery mode as well. same problem
[08:31] <celthunder> so...you sure that the kernel is the problem?
[08:31] <shawnboy> tommy__: I found help page for vsftpd and it looks fairly involved in setting up too. I may still try it if I can't solve pure-ftpd problems.
[08:32] <celthunder> (i didn't see what actually was happening to you came in half way through sorry)
[08:32] <sjuxax> Hello. My MacBook Pro gets all corruptedy when booting from Live USB. I've tried adding nomodeset and radeon.modeset=0 to the kernel boot params, but that doesn't change anything, and it looks like KMS is still enabled. What should I mark on here to make sure that I use a basic video driver that is not going to kill my computer?
[08:32] <psycho_oreos> shawnboy, well that 5-minutes may only just mean for very basic setup
[08:32] <sjuxax> I would prefer to use the real video driver actually if possible, is there some parameter that I need to pass to make it work
[08:32] <[1]sonictk> I don't know FOR SURE, but when I was doing the update manager the 2nd time round I updated everything one by one and this problem only started after I did the security kernel update
[08:34] <shawnboy> psycho_oreos: for now I'd settle for that... ie. access on my LAN.
[08:34] <psycho_oreos> shawnboy, well for remote access one needs to add port forwarding on router imo
[08:35] <psycho_oreos> and then depending on your ISP, not all ISPs allow their customers to run daemons on very low ports
[08:35] <azizLIGHTS> whats the root password upon install, ubuntu server 10.10
[08:35] <psycho_oreos> err low port numbers
[08:35] <shawnboy> psycho_oreos: only for external access, right?
[08:35] <psycho_oreos> azizLIGHTS, there's none, use sudo
[08:35] <malx_poogee_loo> whats up
[08:35] <NeonSaki> http://neonsaki.blogspot.com/ Hey Guys..
[08:35] <azizLIGHTS> you cant login as root locally?
[08:35] <celthunder> azizLIGHTS, no password change it with sudo
[08:35] <NeonSaki> http://neonsaki.blogspot.com/ Hey Guys..
[08:35] <psycho_oreos> shawnboy, no, once you enable port forwarding, both internal and external network can access the server
[08:35] <[1]sonictk> @psycho_oreos: actually, out of curiosity, could I ask, if you had this problem and reformatting the partition was not an option, how would you go about troubleshooting the issue?
[08:35] <azizLIGHTS> you can login with a blank password for root locally ?
[08:35] <rww> NeonSaki: don't advertise in here, please.
[08:36] <tommy__> azizLIGHTS: its disabled by default use sudo su
[08:36] <celthunder> azizLIGHTS, no...it's disabled sudo su - and change the pw
[08:36] <shawnboy> i'm getting sleepy. I'll have to solve this ftpd thing another day.
[08:36] <shawnboy> thanks all.
[08:36] <malx_poogee_loo> I have a Kde problem, can anyone help me?
[08:36] <azizLIGHTS> so if i change the password of root using sudo su, can i login as root locally or is it still disabled?
[08:37] <azizLIGHTS> i know i can do sudo, but am curious
[08:37] <psycho_oreos> [1]sonictk, I'd use liveUSB to read the logs and to see if there's any useful information from dmesg logs or any other logs that has their mtime updated. Then I check the rootfs to see if the init scripts are there
[08:37] <rww> !noroot | azizLIGHTS, celthunder
[08:37] <azizLIGHTS> !root
[08:37] <tommy__> rww: nice
[08:38]  * celthunder shrugs i gave myself a root pw and just leave term 3 logged in as root all the time
[08:38] <azizLIGHTS> so whats the point of changing the root pw
[08:38] <fishscene> There is no point.
[08:38] <azizLIGHTS> dont do it?
[08:39] <tommy__> yes don't do it azizLIGHTS
[08:39] <fishscene> Running everything as root is exceedingly dangerous to your system. Just use Sudo to elevate yourself for select tasks.
[08:39] <pvl1> after setting the root passwd is it possible to turn it back?
[08:39] <tommy__> lol @celthunder
[08:39] <azizLIGHTS> ok got it
[08:39] <rww> pvl1: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo , it has instructions for that
[08:39] <celthunder> pvl1, yes
[08:40] <psycho_oreos> there is but its circumstantial.. e.g. vmware configurations don't necessarily honour the use of sudo/gksu/kdesu but instead prefers you to give the root password. That was the case with vmware workstation 6.5
[08:40] <malx_poogee_loo> in KDE, when I try to run programs that have Icons in the system tray( banshee for example ) I get this blank xmessage that, if closed, causes my entire plasma desktop to disappear. What causes this problem? P.s. I'm a noob
[08:40] <pvl1> rww, thanks, you just reminded me to do that on my router box. wouldnt want that open
[08:40] <c0dewiz> hi
[08:40] <celthunder> tommy__, i don't run everything as root just leave it logged in for when i need it
[08:40] <[1]sonictk> @psycho_oreos: thanks. uhh when you say liveUSB....can I use the live USB stick with my ubuntu install? But I don't recall seeing an option for it to get me into terminal or anything like that
[08:40] <celthunder> c0dewiz, hi
[08:40] <c0dewiz> how can it be that my eth0 has address <IP_ADDRESS> while i configured in kde nm applett an address of <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:41] <pvl1> c0dewiz, reset networking
[08:41] <fishscene> I don't see anything to revert to the old root password
[08:41] <pvl1> malx_poogee_loo, a blank xmessage?
[08:41] <fishscene> I would assume that it would be a security risk to allow reverting to an old password.
[08:41] <celthunder> fishscene edit /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow and take it out?
[08:41] <psycho_oreos> [1]sonictk, well when you run live USB with desktop image iirc you get xorg session, you can just make it run gnome-terminal for instance or switch to a real console via Ctrl+Alt+F{1-6} with Ctrl+Alt+F7 being the Xorg
[08:42] <c0dewiz> it says:
[08:42] <malx_poogee_loo> is just message that has an orange x icon on it
[08:42] <c0dewiz> Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0
[08:42] <fishscene> Well ok, deleting the password isn't the same as reverting :P
[08:43] <psycho_oreos> no it isn't have a look at other users and notice the !! marks
[08:43] <celthunder> fishscene, the default pw is a commented out pw what's the difference
[08:43] <pvl1> c0dewiz, resset again
[08:43] <malx_poogee_loo> it has no title and the message body is blank. It may also be called a dialogue window\
[08:43] <[1]sonictk> @psycho_oreos: wait so you mean I just boot into the live ubuntu image and try mounting my disk from there? oh wait yea what I am saying that's kind of the whole point of a live CD anyway
[08:43] <fishscene> revert means it stores old password. Delete/comment out means the password isn't set.
[08:43] <pvl1> malx_poogee_loo, ok, is it one specific app that cause that or many
[08:44] <c0dewiz> this time the error doesnt appear, but the interface is still on .13
[08:44] <psycho_oreos> [1]sonictk, more or less, there's hardly any difference between liveCD and liveUSB when you have ubuntu running on either. The only difference if anything is the rootfs of the live medium and generally performance variances
[08:45] <malx_poogee_loo> most apps that have have an Icon in the system tray when they open: Banshee, Vlc, etc.
[08:45] <fishscene> I was thinking more on the administration and security practices rather than at the file-level.
[08:45] <pvl1> malx_poogee_loo, go look at your /var/log/syslog file
[08:45] <pvl1> c0dewiz, look at my message
[08:45] <[1]sonictk> @psycho_oreos: thank you very much! sorry about that, I really need to slap myself again since I keep a suse liveCD around for that very purpose haha
[08:46] <psycho_oreos> [1]sonictk, you can use any linux liveCD or any distro liveCD/liveUSB. The process is more or less the same once you get to console level, you just need to go through mounting and maybe if anything chrooting
[08:47] <[1]sonictk> @psycho_oreos: for now I'm going to just (again) reformat the partition, reinstall ubuntu, and just install everything apart from the kernel updates and see if it  works. if it still dies on boot then I'll look at the logs
[08:47] <[1]sonictk> wait chrooting? that's changing folder permissions right?
[08:47] <psycho_oreos> [1]sonictk, no
[08:47] <psycho_oreos> !chroot| [1]sonictk
[08:47] <[1]sonictk> oh wait thats chmod sorry agh
[08:48] <pvl1> ubottu, networking
[08:49] <pvl1> ubottu | networking
[08:49] <twiztid> hey all any quick resolves on helping ubuntu with opengl in-game?
[08:49] <bonjoyee> !networking | pvl1
[08:50] <chd> anything like jdownloader available on ubuntu?
[08:50] <psycho_oreos> [1]sonictk, I should probably also add that using of any distro's liveCD or liveUSB is within reason. Now that there's even more fancy fs out there not all liveCD/liveUSB distro can support it.. such as using an old ubuntu (7.04) liveCD/liveUSB image to try and mount ext4 fs
[08:50] <[1]sonictk> ok oh
[08:51] <[1]sonictk> I was reading about btrfs and ext4
[08:51] <[1]sonictk> I have no idea about this but for practical use (i.e. netbook-style usage) which would be more suitable?
[08:52] <[1]sonictk> since I keep hearing things like BTRFS IS THE WAY FORWARD and all that
[08:52] <Dresden|afk> Is there an easy way to make a USB stick into a LIVE Unbuntu booting drive?
[08:53] <zetheroo> does anyone have experience with using Moovida in Ubuntu?
[08:53] <tommy__> Dresden|afk: use unetbootin
[08:53] <fishscene> Dresden: The instructions should be right on the Ubuntu ISO download page.
[08:53] <Dresden|afk> ok thanks
[08:54] <psycho_oreos> [1]sonictk, I suppose ymmv. Everyone has their own opinions about which fs is good but not everyone use their fs the same way.. such as storing massive amounts of small text files or storing images of disk dumps, etc
[08:55] <fishscene> zetheroo: Not I
[08:55] <[1]sonictk> @h would be more suitable?
[08:55] <[1]sonictk> [00:52] *** vissible quit (Quit: 暂离)
[08:55] <[1]sonictk> [00:52] <[1]sonictk> since I keep hearing things like BTRFS IS THE WAY FORWARD and all that
[08:56] <zetheroo>  fishscene: shucks
[08:56] <zetheroo> ;)
[08:56] <[1]sonictk> whoops sorry
[08:56] <[1]sonictk> wrong keypress
[08:56] <ryan_languagelab> Hi. apt is set up to automatically check for updates on login. However, I after switching from xubuntu to ubuntu, I am not longer seeing the little icon in the task bar telling me an upgrade is available. How do I get this back?
[08:57] <[1]sonictk> um but what's the main difference between btrfs and ext4 actually? the only thing I gathered from just browsing around was that btrfs has online defrag...which I guess is nice but for most users is it really practical
[08:59] <marco>  /server  irc.darkartika.net
[08:59] <tomd> hi, anyone know how access to video devices are controlled, such as useing /dev/videoX with multiple applications (video conf and video streaming)?
[08:59] <[1]sonictk> also yay finally back into ubuntu after formatting
[08:59] <daed> is there a way to change scroll wheel speed? googling hasn't helped at all
[09:01] <xtc> hi
[09:01] <fishscene> Greetings
[09:01] <alkisg> I'm trying sudo chown alkisg:disk /dev/sda3 to become the owner of that partition and it works, but after a few seconds it reverts to root:disk, why, and how can I make it permanent?
[09:02] <chd> anything like jdownloader available on ubuntu?
[09:06] <pupuserc1803c> hi
[09:06] <WinstonSmith> chd, have a look at tucan manager
[09:07] <WinstonSmith> chd, its in the repos
[09:09] <rurufusus> anyone know how to definitively disable mouse focus in ubuntu?
[09:10] <blinkyb> "Sound Preferences" dialog doesn't open. why it that?
[09:10] <agnostic> Windows 7 rulez!
[09:10] <rurufusus> so this is the ubuntu IRC
[09:10] <rurufusus> questions, without answers
[09:10] <rurufusus> and people saying windows 7 rules
[09:11] <rurufusus> pathetic
[09:11] <rww> epic troll feeding bro :\
[09:11] <agnostic> I'm sorry. I just checked the nerd-level. It's green ;-)
[09:12] <rww> agnostic: #ubuntu-offtopic might be a better outlet for your OS opinions ;)
[09:13] <chd> I forgot what do do with a .tar.gz
[09:14] <rww> chd: tar -zxf path/to/file.tar.gz
[09:14] <rww> to extract it
[09:14] <chd> ya thats it
[09:16] <anormallu> hi ! i have problem with ubuntu desktop! how can i give some system restore?
[09:17] <chd> sigh, I have a makefile, just make "makefilename" right?
[09:17] <chd> I get a "nothing to be done for 'filename'"
[09:18] <dhanar_10> chd: try with just "make"
[09:18] <fishscene> Has anyone gotten DHCP Server to work in Ubuntu 10.10?
[09:19] <r00t4rd3d> !resetpane | anormallu
[09:19] <r00t4rd3d> !resetpanel | anormallu
[09:19] <anormallu> thx
[09:20] <r00t4rd3d> that will put your desktop back to defaults like when you first installed
[09:20] <fishscene> !dhcpd | fishscene
[09:21] <fishscene> !dhcp | fishscene
[09:22] <r00t4rd3d> fishscene, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-and-configure-dhcp-server-in-ubuntu-server.html
[09:22] <fishscene> r00trd3d: Yes, I've been using that for the past 2 hours
[09:22] <r00t4rd3d> lol sry
[09:23] <fishscene> No worries. It's like, the only tutorial for Ubuntu 10.10 and it is a fail
[09:23] <r00t4rd3d> and its for ubu server version
[09:23] <bonjoyee> fishscene: where are you stuck?
[09:24] <Gryllida> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/909787 , I had that before and solved by reinstalling some en-*language* package, any ideas on a name similar to that?
[09:24] <fishscene> I was wondering if anyone else had gotten dhcpd working because I have another poor soul scratching his head on this as well.
[09:24] <rww> Gryllida: language-pack-en, language-support-en, locales. I know it's 'locales' that fixes it on Debian, not sure which of the three for Ubuntu.
[09:24] <fishscene> bonjoyee: just a sec
[09:25] <almoxarife> any issues if I chose to move the 'home' folder off the tree to a mounted sd disk?
[09:25] <rww> almoxarife: not if you do it right
[09:25] <rww> !separatehome
[09:25] <almoxarife> rww: thnks, I'll read
[09:25] <fishscene> bonjoyee: http://pastebin.com/pDFP2TsF
[09:26] <fishscene> That's the /var/log/syslog output
[09:27] <bonjoyee> fishscene: those errors are quite self-explanatory..have u added a subnet pool to your dhcp.conf file?
[09:27] <fishscene> bonjoyee: I believe so, yes. Mind if I start a private chat?
[09:27] <bonjoyee> dhcpd.conf*
[09:27] <bonjoyee> np
[09:28] <linux_direction> hi room : )
[09:28] <bonjoyee> fishscene: please pastebin output of "ifconfig -a" and contents of dhcpd.conf
[09:28] <Gryllida> Hey aussie.
[09:29] <Gryllida> linux_direction: what's up?
[09:29] <almoxarife> rww: I just want to move 'home' to another location on the same drive
[09:29] <linux_direction> was looking for stew.
[09:31] <linux_direction> stew, and another user gave me some direction in duplicating my fresh ubu hdd install. for back up purposes. someone suggested i use the dd comand. and stew said Chat Post would be better for me coz it was a little easier.
[09:31] <linux_direction> cp_command would be better.
[09:32] <linux_direction> i had a look at the two. and wanted to ask, why he thought it would be better to use Chat Post_?
[09:33] <linux_direction> aaarrrrr my stupid IRC app. makes words out of the things im saying.
[09:34] <linux_direction> im thinking it is better to use the dd_command coz it mentioned about copying the mbr. where c.p command seems to be just a file and folder copier.
[09:34] <bluegoon> How do I use Twitter with the built in broadcast feature?
[09:35] <fishscene> linux_direction: I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for in the long run, but I use Filezilla to clone drives.
[09:35] <linux_direction> but it seems stew is not here, and i forgot the name of the user that suggested i use dd_command.
[09:36] <linux_direction> Hmmmmm. maybe its what i could use. but just so you're/we're clear.
[09:36] <linux_direction> i am new to linux.
[09:37] <linux_direction> i install ubunutu on my computer. its nice and fresh.
[09:37] <r00t4rd3d> i know with partition magic you can clone hard drives
[09:37] <linux_direction> i thought it be best if i could duplicarte the drive as a back up. before i start twiddling with ubuntu.
[09:37] <fishscene> Yea, filezilla has a kind of "Windows 3.1" gui-feel to it. But it's usually pretty straight forward.
[09:38] <fishscene> Pardon, not Windows 3.1, more like a dos-box feel to it.
[09:38] <linux_direction> and it will copy the mbr thing, and all the hidden files required for it to boot straight up?
[09:38] <r00t4rd3d> yup
[09:38] <fishscene> Yup. Filezilla uses the dd command
[09:39] <linux_direction> hmmm.i don't know what a dos box is yet.
[09:39] <linux_direction> oh. righ.
[09:39] <linux_direction> that sounds like to go then.
[09:39] <linux_direction> is it free?
[09:39] <r00t4rd3d> nope
[09:39] <fishscene> 100% :)
[09:39] <r00t4rd3d> oh
[09:39] <TheMusicGuy> I installed the realtime kernel for use with JACK and such, but I don't know how to use it. I don't get a boot menu, which is what I usually use to boot with the rt kernel, so I'm not sure what to do.
[09:39] <fishscene> wait
[09:40] <fishscene> I totally gave you the wrong name: http://clonezilla.org/
[09:40] <fishscene> Clonezilla*
[09:40] <linux_direction> Cool, if the 100% was to me fishscene : )
[09:40] <linux_direction> ooo. what so you meant clonezilla? not filezilla?
[09:40] <fishscene> Yes, Clonezilla uses the dd command to make an exact (and compressed) image of your drive/partition. It is 100% free
[09:41] <fishscene> yea. Sorry. I become foggy-brained at 2am :(
[09:41] <fishscene> I get my zilla's mixed up.
[09:41] <linux_direction> when you say compressed. is that an option?
[09:41] <linux_direction> hey thats Okay.
[09:41] <fishscene> You might be able to disable the compression, but it does it automatically.
[09:42] <linux_direction> is that Okay when it compresses? i just want an exact replica. i have a spare drive which is exactly the same.
[09:43] <linux_direction> so i figure i just want it to be exacly the same as the fresh install.
[09:43] <romankrv> Hi. I try use in shell command: $ {ls . ; ls ..} > mylist
[09:43] <Ileden> Hi! My WLAN is acting up pretty weird. I dualboot Win7/Ubuntu. My home WLAN works with Win7, but with Ubuntu there's trouble. It has trouble connecting, and when connected gets around 15% packet loss to most of the net, and few % to the router, and may disconnect suddenly. Changing the channel from the router fixes the issue for a while (few hours), but it always comes back. The WLAN works at another network (at work). Any ideas what could be wrong?
[09:43] <linux_direction> compression will change that.
[09:43] <Ileden> Diagnostics so far: The problem does appear with a live USB boot. iwconfig reports normal, and similar output whether the connection is working or has trouble. After help from here (psycho_oreos) I also managed to turn on the "debug" mode of the ath9k kernel module, and recorded dmesg output from the time of connection trouble. The dmesg output is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/550552/ Any diagnostic help is appreciated!
[09:44] <romankrv> but it not work
[09:44] <linux_direction> but thanks heaps for your suggestion.
[09:44] <linux_direction> i guess i can give it a go.
[09:44] <romankrv> this construction i finded in docs
[09:44] <fishscene> Yea, the compressed image is fine. It just means that, say, HUGE BLOCKS of nothing but 0's won't hog mega amounts of space.
[09:44] <linux_direction> can it be loaded if i boot for a live cd?
[09:45] <linux_direction> oh Okay. that sounds safe enough.
[09:45] <fishscene> Yes, clonezilla is a livecd. You can save and restore images.
[09:45] <linux_direction> oh. it is a live cd of it own?
[09:45] <fishscene> yes
[09:45] <linux_direction> so i would boot up using clonezilla. not my ubu live cd?
[09:45] <r00t4rd3d> so clone your current hd and restore it to you backup one
[09:46] <fishscene> Linux_direction: correct.
[09:46] <sjuxax> Hello. My MacBook Pro gets all corruptedy when booting from Live USB. I've tried adding nomodeset and radeon.modeset=0 to the kernel boot params, but that doesn't change anything, and it looks like KMS is still enabled. What should I mark on here to make sure that I use a basic video driver that is not going to kill my computer?
[09:46] <linux_direction> sheeze. thanks peoples :)
[09:46] <fishscene> NP mate.
[09:46] <linux_direction> )
[09:47] <myrti_> hi how do I make an exact copy of my internal hard drive to my external hard drive?
[09:47] <myrti_> for backup reasons that is
[09:47] <fishscene> I've used clonezilla to successfully backup and restore bootcamp drives on Mac's (something that Apple says is impossible).
[09:47] <linux_direction> Wow. good going fishscene.
[09:48] <fishscene> myrti: Good timing. Although I don't have an answer for you that uses ubuntu, I do recommend clonezilla: http://clonezilla.org/
[09:48] <myrti_> that is from a live cd
[09:48] <myrti_> I was thinking of using dd
[09:48] <jrmcm> how can i create an iso of a dvd
[09:48] <younder> myrti a bit low level
[09:48] <younder> try dump
[09:49] <myrti_> dd?
[09:49] <linux_direction> and can i add to myrti_ question. and not only to an external hdd. but can this also be saved to a Network share?
[09:50] <benito230> hi
[09:50] <fishscene> linux_direction: yes. I know it will work with Microsoft Windows Shares (Not Windows 7, untested with Vista), but server 2003/XP or earlier it will work over the network.
[09:50] <fishscene> Just look for "samba" as one of the places to save your image.
[09:50] <younder> myrti dd copies verbatim sector for sector. You usually want a logical copy.
[09:50] <younder> File by file
[09:51] <jrmcm> What program can i use to create an ISO of a dvd
[09:51] <linux_direction> oh Okay. thats excellent. thanks fishscene. im gunna have some fun tonight. well i hope anyway.
[09:51] <agnostic> Question: Do ubuntu developers get money?
[09:51] <linux_direction> well im outta here.
[09:51] <fishscene> agnostic: Some do.
[09:52] <popey> agnostic: the ones that work do yes
[09:52] <linux_direction> first stop clonezilla : )
[09:52] <linux_direction> thanks fishscene. thanks room.
[09:52] <agnostic> from whom?
[09:52] <linux_direction> bye4now : )
[09:52] <rww> agnostic: their employers
[09:52] <agnostic> * from who?
[09:52] <chibihogoshino> Ileden: try changing your routers encryption
[09:52] <Dev`> i'm using partimage and resized the terminal. now i can't read what it says, how can I refresh the terminal display?
[09:52] <younder> jrmcm, From Ubuntu user mag, i'd say k3b
[09:53] <myrti_> anything wrong with just doing dd if=/dev/sda of /dev/sdc?
[09:53] <agnostic> But it's more like charity, right?
[09:53] <fishscene> agnostic: You'll have to define your scope, because Ubuntu uses stuff that thousands of people have worked on from all over the world.
[09:53] <Ileden> chibihogoshino: I've tried both WPA and WPA2 so there's no choice left.
[09:53] <rww> agnostic: Not really. But, this isn't a support question, try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[09:53] <jrmcm> ok thx younder
[09:54] <Ileden> chibihogoshino: althoug, for temporary diagnostic purposes, I guess I should try WEP too, or leave the network unencrypted.
[09:54] <chibihogoshino> Ileden: is it a fresh install and is the routers firmware up to date ?
[09:54] <chibihogoshino> Ileden: wep is the same as no encryption
[09:54] <shadaloo> hi
[09:54] <shadaloo> using irssi how do I see a network's channel list
[09:54] <Ileden> chibihogoshino: very true
[09:55] <chibihogoshino> Ileden: did you try changing the wifi channel ?
[09:55] <Ileden> chibihogoshino: yes, fresh install, fresh computer (netbook) and firmware should be up to date, haven't check for a while though
[09:55] <Ileden> chibihogoshino: yes, and that seems to fix the problem for a few hours. always comes back
[09:55] <Ileden> chibihogoshino: (that's the really weird part...)
[09:55] <devgruseal> i can't read my console terminal anymore, but it's in the middle of a task. how do I refresh it without halting the process?
[09:55] <Myrtti> shadaloo: in a specific network or in general? /list works, but it may disconnect you from the server as it generates a lot of traffic and may overtake your connection. In freenode /msg alis help list
[09:55] <jrmcm> Younder: is there one that doesnt rely on kubuntu?
[09:56] <jrmcm> I dont need the kde desktop
[09:57] <chibihogoshino> Ileden: reason 1...unspecifiedReason...Client associated but no longer authorized.
[09:57] <chibihogoshino> Ileden: looks like its loosing authentication for some reason
[09:58] <younder> jrmcm, It doesn't rely on KUbuntu merely on Qt . Which will be downloaded as a dependency.
[09:58] <Ileden> chibihogoshino: Hmm, weird. Any ideas how to diagnose further?
[09:59] <jrmcm> Younder: ok i was wondering because i used synaptic and there were 81 packages it needed
[09:59] <chibihogoshino> Ileden: im not to shur about anything else..
[09:59] <Ileden> chibihogoshino: and how would that result in packet loss?
[09:59] <devgruseal> how can i refresh the display of a terminal, without killing its active task?
[10:00] <Ileden> chibihogoshino: or, well, I guess the problem is what causes the packet loss (or connectivity trouble), which then causes also dropped authentication when it gets bad.
[10:01] <chibihogoshino> Ileden: im not shur
[10:01] <younder> jrmcm, Well I am running now on a gome desktop.
[10:02] <younder> gnome
[10:02] <Ileden> chibihogoshino: well, thaks for trying to help anyway!
[10:03] <jrmcm> younder: same here, i'm using the standard ubuntu 10.04
[10:05] <younder> jrmcm, The 'standard' now I expect is 10.10
[10:05] <linux_direction> hi room. fishscene. when you're free. or can anybody tell me which version i need to download? im a bit confused by the clonezilla home/download page.
[10:06] <jrmcm> younder: lol yeah prob. i just havent had time to upgrade lol
[10:06] <younder> jrmcm, but 10.4 is the long standing supported release from canonical, yes.
[10:06] <fishscene> linux_direction: http://sourceforge.net/projects/clonezilla/files/clonezilla_live_stable/1.2.6-40/clonezilla-live-1.2.6-40-i686.iso/download
[10:06] <jrmcm> Younder: yup
[10:07] <linux_direction> hey thanks again fishscene. : )
[10:07] <sergei> привет тут русскоговорящие есть
[10:07] <linux_direction> Okay bye4now room : )
[10:07] <devgruseal> how can i refresh the display of a terminal, without killing its active task?
[10:09] <jrmcm> is there a setting in xchat that turns off all the join/leaving messages?
[10:10] <r_p_> Hi everyone, who will help me repair my system? It suddenly stopped booting. The bootscript info is here: https://gist.github.com/9ba7410e832e59ca9170
[10:10] <r_p_> I get a kernel panic with the following message:
[10:10] <r_p_> kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on
[10:10] <r_p_> unknown block(0,0)
[10:10] <fishscene> devgruseal: This is the best I have on that topic: http://lowfatlinux.com/linux-processes.html
[10:10] <DJones> jrmcm: From memory, you can right click on the channel name & enable/disable the join/part messages (it may be in a submenu after right clicking on the channel name)
[10:11] <jrmcm> DJones: thx
[10:11] <jrmcm> that is so much nicer lol
[10:12] <devgruseal> fishscene: partimage is running, the terminal was resized, now its jumbled (have a screenshot if you'd like to see)
[10:13] <fishscene> oy. I have no idea mate. I just passed along what I found out earlier today. :S
[10:14] <juniour> can any one me in virtual box
[10:15] <gobbe> juniour: ask the question
[10:15] <juniour> i am no able to install ubuntu in virtual box
[10:15] <juniour> i am getting reeor
[10:16] <gobbe> juniour: well, telling to error might help us :)
[10:16] <fishscene> juniour: What is the error?
[10:17] <juniour> gobbe this kernal requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686CPU. unable to boot -please use akernal approriate for your cpu
[10:17] <gobbe> juniour: well, you tried to install x64 version but your machine is x86
[10:17] <gobbe> juniour: install 32bit version
[10:18] <juniour> gobbe my machine is 64 bit
[10:19] <gobbe> juniour: what does "uname -a" say?
[10:19] <juniour> gobbe i have to install ubuntu f0r 32 bit
[10:19] <juniour> wait
[10:20] <gobbe> and what is your computers model
[10:20] <juniour> gobbe Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-27-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 2 00:51:09 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:20] <gobbe> some of 64bit processors are not able to run 64bit virtualized guests
[10:20] <gobbe> like older intels
[10:21] <linux_direction> hi room. yep im back already. im hav a lil problem in reguards to my downloading of clonezilla. its gunna take 4 hrs. reason being. ive been shaped to 64kbps. so i think i might just have to go with the ubuntu command option.
[10:21] <juniour> gobbe sony vaio VGN-FW53GF
[10:21] <gobbe> juniour: you need to enable hardware virtualization from bios
[10:22] <meco> Is there any reason Totem won't play an mp3 file?
[10:22] <juniour> k
[10:22] <juniour> gobbe then i wiil work
[10:22] <juniour> i dont hav etio download ubuntu for 32 bit
[10:23] <gobbe> juniour: so just enable vt-x/amd-v from bios
[10:23] <juniour> where this option i will  get in bios
[10:23] <juniour> gobbe
[10:23] <juniour> ?
[10:24] <erUSUL> meco: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:24] <erUSUL> !mp3 > meco
[10:24] <gobbe> juniour: it depends from your bios, somewhere should be possibility to check those on
[10:24] <juniour> k
[10:24] <bluegoon> Hey guys, just installed 10.10 via USB stick on a different drive, now I dont see the grub menu when startup, just goes straight to ubuntu
[10:25] <juniour> gobbe y i am getting this error
[10:25] <juniour>  please explain
[10:25] <shadaloo> thank you Myrtti
[10:25] <quodt> hi, i have a question about apt: i like to install ec2-api-tools. unfortunatelly apt gives me an old version. if i check the my mirror i can see a newer version with ~lucid1 in the package name. how can i force apt to install that version? (mirror: http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/e/ec2-api-tools/)
[10:25] <iceroot> quodt: you are using lucid?
[10:25] <quodt> yes
[10:26] <banisterfiend> quodt: leave this channel at once.
[10:26] <evilbug> when i tried booting a 10.10 live cd on an older computer but when loading the try/install menu, the system began displaying many error messages in red. why would this be?
[10:26] <erUSUL> bluegoon: probably grub ended up installed in the wrong disk. using instructions to recover grub after installing windows can help yopu put it in the correct one ( the one that boots first according to bios )
[10:26] <iceroot> quodt: apt-get update && apt-get install ec2-api-tools
[10:26] <erUSUL> !grub2 | bluegoon
[10:26] <iceroot> quodt: that will give you the current version from the repos of your ubuntu-version
[10:26] <quodt> iceroot: this is what i did
[10:26] <juniour> gobbe
[10:26] <juniour> ?
[10:26] <bluegoon> erUSUL, thanks dude
[10:27] <iceroot> quodt: then there is no newer version in the repo
[10:27] <iceroot> quodt: cat /etc/issue  is showing you what ubuntu-version?
[10:27] <quodt> but i can see it in the browser
[10:27] <Sriram> quodt: Best option is to download the deb from the mirror
[10:27] <llutz> quodt: "apt-cache policy ec2-api-tools"
[10:28] <quodt> ec2-api-tools:
[10:28] <quodt>   Installed: 1.3.46266-0ubuntu1
[10:28] <quodt>   Candidate: 1.3.46266-0ubuntu1
[10:28] <quodt> i like to get this deb: http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/e/ec2-api-tools/ec2-api-tools_1.3.57419-0ubuntu1~lucid1_all.deb
[10:28] <quodt> and not this one: http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/e/ec2-api-tools/ec2-api-tools_1.3.46266-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[10:28] <linux_direction> im at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=541574. Page titled "How to use dd command". but i don't see it. does anyone know of another link or page which is more helpful?
[10:28] <iceroot> !info ec2-api-tools lucid
[10:29] <linux_direction> i don't see the command(s) on the page.
[10:29] <iceroot> quodt: its in the normal lucid-repos, check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:29] <quodt> it's in the multiverse
[10:30] <llutz> linux_direction: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/ddcommand.htm
[10:30] <llutz> quodt: you have to enable multiverse
[10:30] <iceroot> quodt: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list and the output of "cat /etc/issue" please to pastebin
[10:30] <linux_direction> being debian will be Okay llutz?
[10:30] <quodt> llutz: yes, otherwise i dont get any version of that package
[10:30] <llutz> linux_direction: dd is not distro-dependend
[10:31] <rethus1> have kubuntu and wanna try ubuntu-desktop - means gnome
[10:31] <quodt> iceroot: yes, one sec
[10:31] <linux_direction> oh Okay. i understand now. thanks llutz : )
[10:31] <yogesh> hi all,i have installed ubuntu 10.04 64 bit ubuntu version , while running 32 bit executable on it getting error as sudo: unable to execute ./adb: No such file or directory
[10:31] <rethus1> to install it, i have only to install ubuntu-desktop package ?
[10:31] <gobbe> jumbers: ?
[10:31] <gobbe> jumbers: sory
[10:31] <bazhang> rethus1, yep
[10:31] <Sriram> quodt, You can download the deb and install it with gdebi
[10:32] <rethus1> bazhang: little strange, cause he not try to install many packages...
[10:32] <rethus1> i thougth the must be many gnome packages installed
[10:32] <bazhang> rethus1, it will pull in a ton of others
[10:32] <rethus1> but dont ask on kpackage-manager for it
[10:32] <first2none> Hows it going guys
[10:32] <yogesh> how to run 32 bit executable in 64 bit ubuntu 10.04
[10:33] <yogesh> ?
[10:33] <yogesh> getting error as no such file or directory
[10:33] <giantpune> hi, i have ubuntu intstalled on 2 different partitions on my pc.  the first time i installed it, i created a swap partition.  the second time i installed it, i did not create a swap partition.  is there some way now i can point the second installation of ubuntu to use the same swap partition as the other installation?
[10:33] <bluegoon_> Hi guys
[10:33] <bluegoon_> Ive moved grub by upgrading it to my Windows hard drive.
[10:33] <bluegoon_> But it still boots straight into Ubuntu
[10:34] <first2none> I'm needing help finding the best linux to support my needs? I am just going to be using it as a teamspeak server so i dont need it to do anything. Any suggestions?
[10:34] <Sriram> first2none: TeamViewer Server?
[10:34] <first2none> No "Teamspeak server"
[10:34] <Sriram> first2none, Oh sorry
[10:34] <first2none> teamspeak.com
[10:34] <first2none> its kewl
[10:35] <first2none> It is a voice chat server
[10:35] <bazhang> first2none, you have ubuntu installed and wish to use teamspeak?
[10:35] <Sriram> first2none, Yes, ubuntu might be nice
[10:36] <first2none> It only has half a gb of memory so I'm wanting a linux that would hardly use any so it can use all be used towards running teamspeak
[10:36] <rethus1> i have installed ubuntu-desktop out of my kubuntu. now i get a question-dialog which Displaymanager to use.
[10:36] <rethus1> which one should i choose?
[10:36] <quodt> iceroot: http://pastebin.com/tK3kChmB
[10:36] <rethus1> does kde run with gdm and gnome run with kdm ?
[10:36] <first2none> I want the linux that uses the least memory
[10:36] <Sriram> rethus1, No, vice- versa
[10:36] <bazhang> first2none, so just polling? or got ubuntu installed
[10:37] <first2none> just polling
[10:37] <first2none> I have ubuntu installed on the computer i'm using now
[10:37] <bazhang> first2none, try ##linux then as this is ubuntu support
[10:37] <rethus1> Siriram: i know which is normaly used.. i need to know if they can use each other DM
[10:37] <first2none> Well is there a server type of ubuntu?
[10:37] <rethus1> bazhang: what you say, can i use gnome with kdm or kde with gnome?
[10:37] <erUSUL> first2none: yes; there is ubuntu-server
[10:37] <erUSUL> !server
[10:38] <bluegoon_> Can you dual boot windows and ubuntu from two different hard drives?
[10:38] <rethus1> i doesn't wan't to switch completly to gnome... only have a try... maybe later i switch completly
[10:38] <bazhang> rethus1, what will be your predominant choice?
[10:38] <first2none> erUSUL: Nice to see you again old friend :P
[10:38] <erUSUL> ;)
[10:38] <rethus1> at this time my productiv-envviroment is kubunut so i use kdem
[10:38] <rethus1> i give a try to gnome... so i think preferd is kdm
[10:38] <iceroot> quodt: hm, seems everything ok
[10:39] <bazhang> rethus1, stick with kdm then, makes no real difference
[10:39] <first2none> erUSUL: Those issues I was having with this linux i couldnt figure out so i just multiboot windows 7 from my external hard drive :P
[10:39] <rethus1> thanks
[10:39] <first2none> erUSUL: Well whenever i wanna game or use Photoshop
[10:39] <erUSUL> first2none: :|
[10:39] <benignbala> Hi, is there a way to set File associations with scripts ?
[10:39] <linux_direction> does anyone have an idea on how much time it will take to do a dd command on a 160g's hdd? im wondering if it might also take four hours?
[10:39] <rethus1> so i even could change it later ? where could i do this in Gnome?
[10:39] <iceroot> linux_direction: depending on the blocksize you set
[10:40] <first2none> erUSUL: After i install ubunter-server edition would u be up for helping me then
[10:40] <iceroot> linux_direction: without a given blocksize 4 hours should be normal
[10:40] <linux_direction> awwww, man. i have to set sizes?
[10:40] <quodt> iceroot: do you know what the ~lucid1 in the package name means?
[10:40] <linux_direction> ohzie: ( thanks iceroot : )
[10:40] <iceroot> quodt: backport for lucid maybe
[10:41] <rethus1> bazhang: so if i use kdm for gnome i couldn't use gdmconfig ?
[10:41] <erUSUL> first2none: this channel never sleeps.- if not me someone will be able to help
[10:41] <bluegoon_> Can you dual boot windows and ubuntu from two different hard drives?
[10:41] <first2none> haha ok
[10:41] <iceroot> quodt: but i dont know exactly
[10:41] <iceroot> bluegoon_: yes
[10:41] <quodt> ice799: aha, that is commented out in my sources.list
[10:41] <bluegoon_> iceroot, would there be a specific way to configure it?
[10:41] <bluegoon_> using grub?
[10:41] <quodt> sorry ice799, i mean iceroot
[10:42] <iceroot> quodt: uncomment it and try apt-get update && apt-get install packagename -s  just to see if it would install it (-s = simulate)
[10:42] <iceroot> bluegoon_: if you first install windows, then ubuntu then nothing special is to do
[10:42] <linux_direction> would not specifying a blocksize, be the safer way for me to do this iceroot? given i am totally new at all this stuff?
[10:42] <yo_rmn> how can I have persistent rooms in Empathy? I cant connect to Gimpnet so I can't ask this question in #empathy
[10:43] <bluegoon_> iceroot, I installed ubuntu on a second hard drive, no it just shoots straight to ubuntu without a grub menu
[10:43] <quodt> iceroot: you'r the man :)
[10:43] <quodt> The following packages will be upgraded:
[10:43] <quodt>   ec2-api-tools
[10:43] <quodt> 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 65 not upgraded.
[10:43] <quodt> Inst ec2-api-tools [1.3.46266-0ubuntu1] (1.3.57419-0ubuntu1~lucid1 Ubuntu:10.04/lucid-backports)
[10:43] <quodt> Conf ec2-api-tools (1.3.57419-0ubuntu1~lucid1 Ubuntu:10.04/lucid-backports)
[10:43] <FloodBot4> quodt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:43] <iceroot> linux_direction: if i am correct sudo fdsik -l is showing the blocksize and you tell dd the blocksize with bs=512 (512 is the blocksize)
[10:43] <bluegoon_> iceroot, got ubuntu 10.10 installed
[10:44] <quodt> iceroot: thankyou very much
[10:44] <iceroot> quodt: ok that i was right :)
[10:44] <iceroot> then
[10:44] <quodt> yes
[10:44] <bluegoon_> iceroot, could bios settings have anything to do with grub not showing up?
[10:44] <linux_direction> oh Okay. thanks heaps iceroot. you made that easy for me to understand. : )
[10:44] <iceroot> bluegoon_: yes, if your bios boots from the hdd where grub is not installed
[10:44] <bluegoon_> iceroot, gotcha, thanks
[10:45] <Adman65> I have my root drive on LVM. I want to move my root to an SSD and rebuild boot on that SSD. How can I do that?
[10:45] <iceroot> linux_direction: but by using dd its ALWAYS a good idea to have a backup
[10:46] <iceroot> linux_direction: if you are not using a blocksize dd will copy every single byte instead of a complete block and that is taking much more time
[10:46] <llutz> linux_direction: dd's default blocksize is 512, you don't have to specify it. changing the blocksize to a higher value might increase speed when using dd.
[10:46] <llutz> iceroot: it won't
[10:47] <iceroot> linux_direction: llutz hm ok, i thought 512 is not default
[10:47] <linux_direction> oh Okay. i get that.
[10:47] <llutz> iceroot: dd if=somefile of=newfile count=1         to check
[10:47] <linux_direction> thanks llutz.
[10:47] <iceroot> llutz: yeah i trust you
[10:48] <abhijain> guys in ubuntu 10.10 skype not working for video chat
[10:49] <bluegoon> iceroot, ive tried setting first boot device to hard disk, it did the same thing again
[10:49] <bluegoon> iceroot, just booted straight into ubuntu
[10:49] <linux_direction> and iceroot. referring to when using dd, to have a back up. thats what im trying to do. so are you saying. its better to say for eg. to make a 1st back up using 3party software.
[10:49] <linux_direction> ?
[10:49] <abhijain> is there any body solve issue for video chat in skype?
[10:50] <Cody-[GMT3]> hi all
[10:50] <linux_direction> hi Cody-[GMT3] : )
[10:50] <iceroot> linux_direction: the problem is that with the wrong syntax you can kill all you data using dd, so its a good idea to have a backup from /home (and its a good idea to always make backups not only before using the dd command)
[10:51] <iceroot> bluegoon: no grub comming up?
[10:51] <mae_tae> hello people
[10:51] <iceroot> bluegoon: or better, you dont see grub?
[10:51] <nimrod10> abhijain, what isn't working for skype exactly ?
[10:52] <mae_tae> is it possible to define both public ip and local ip in a zone file of DNS?
[10:52] <zennn> hello all ! this might be a little offtopic, but can anyone tell me what is the source port when doing some ssh ? is it also 22 ?
[10:52] <linux_direction> oh yeah. i understand. i do remember reading that sort of warning when using the dd_command. thanks for your foresight.
[10:52] <nimrod10> zennn, source port is something random above 1024
[10:52] <linux_direction> thanks iceroot.
[10:52] <zennn> thanx nimrod10
[10:54] <llutz> linux_direction: there are btter tools for backups than dd. dd creates "images" which is not always what you want (waisting space)
[10:54] <linux_direction> ooo. im getting a little excited and nervous at the same time. my cd live is up. now its time to start venturing into some deeper water. im glad ive got you all to help me keep my head above the water : )
[10:56] <linux_direction> yeah right llutz. Fishene point me in the direction of clonezilla. but i have been shape to 64kbps and download still has four hours to go. : (
[10:56] <Spasysheep> how do I use the key generated at first login to recover an encrypted home directory?
[10:57] <linux_direction> so i thought. i may as well do the dd. but to be very carefully. and hey if i stuff it up. i lose nothing expect time on initial install. : )
[10:57] <tgywa> How do I know if hyper-v dirver is compiled into my Linux Kernel(2.6.35) ?
[10:57] <Sir_Fawnpug> Greetings, I think I may have found a bit of a usability issue on 10.10 server. When I change eth0 to use static, it will temporarily use the static IP address, but will not stop dhclient, so periodically the IP address will change to one acquired by DHCP
[10:58] <haiyai> help media file won`t mount usb devices
[10:58] <tgywa> I checked 2.6.35-22-server
[10:58] <bluegoon_> iceroot, tried booting with the windows drive, NTLDR is missing
[10:58] <Diverdude> WHen i put in my usb-stick it pops up and i can access it and read it without problems...But it says its read-only...Usually i can write files and create folders etc. to a usb stick. Why does ubutu say its read-only?
[10:59] <linux_direction> but if i pull it of. i have learnt alot. and it all thanks to this room, and the helpers in it. thanks room : )
[10:59] <tgywa> # cat /boot/config-2.6.35-22-server | grep driver
[10:59] <linux_direction> thanks helpers : )
[10:59] <haiyai> can`t mount usb Help please
[11:00] <tgywa> but can't identify which driver belongs to hyper-v multi processessing
[11:00] <Sir_Fawnpug> The method I am using to change the IP address is by editing /etc/network/interfaces to say the following (http://pastebin.com/) and then restarting /etc/init.d/networking.
[11:01] <haiyai> can someone tell me the default permissions of Media file
[11:01] <Sir_Fawnpug> haiyai, do you mean like the /media directory?
[11:02] <Sir_Fawnpug> haiyai, "drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  4096 2011-01-03 08:20 media"
[11:02] <Diverdude> WHen i put in my usb-stick it pops up and i can access it and read it without problems...But it says its read-only...Usually i can write files and create folders etc. to a usb stick. Why does ubutu say its read-only?
[11:03] <haiyai> Diverdude I have the same problem
[11:03] <Diverdude> haiyai, its very strange...it used to work just fine
[11:03] <Diverdude> haiyai, and suddently its just read only
[11:04] <haiyai> Diverdude what are your permissions for the media folder
[11:05] <haiyai> Diverdude do a  ls -al | grep media in terminal
[11:05] <haiyai> Sir_Fawnpug thanks
[11:05] <llutz> haiyai: ls -ld /media drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096  5. Jan 10:21 /media
[11:07] <haiyai> for some reason my have changed  to me
[11:07] <haiyai> how can I change them back
[11:08] <p3> hi. I'm having problems setting up a second monitor to Ubuntu 10.10, using nVidia Quadro FX 580 with latest nVidia drivers. Primary monitor via DVI works perfectly, but the second monitor - connected via DisplayPort - is only giving out 640x480 resolution. Native resolution would be 1920x1200. Any ideas?
[11:08] <mae_tae> is it possible to define both public ip and local ip in a zone file?
[11:09] <haiyai> What is the command to change to llutz permissions
[11:10] <linux_direction> llutz. iceroot. i typed in fdisk -l. but any figures that seemed to be relating to blocks are very large figures. the only thing that resembles the block sizes is in the following line.
[11:10] <plokij> haiyai: illutz? chmod changes permissions for files
[11:11] <linux_direction> units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes.
[11:11] <BODMAS> pls can anyone tell me the network security tools on linux??
[11:11] <haiyai> chmod 755?
[11:11] <linux_direction> does this line mean my block size is 512?
[11:12] <kirkous> BODMAS, iptables?
[11:12] <uuu__> ничего не понятно
[11:12] <BODMAS> i need a monitoring tool to monitor my network, but i dont knw any i can use on linu
[11:12] <bazhang> uuu__, #ubuntu-ru
[11:12] <uuu__> ок
[11:12] <uuu__> :)
[11:12] <erUSUL> !info ntop | BODMAS
[11:12] <Diverdude> haiyai, drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  4096 2011-01-05 11:56 media
[11:13] <BODMAS> @kirkous pls tell me more
[11:13] <mae_tae> how do i define in a zone file both public ip and local ip? is this possible?
[11:13] <haiyai> chown: changing ownership of `/media': Operation not permitted
[11:13] <kirkous> iptables is firewall, i tought you want that :)
[11:14] <Diverdude> haiyai, did you manage to solve it+
[11:14] <BODMAS> ok kirkous
[11:14] <haiyai> not yet need to change permissions first
[11:14] <BODMAS> how do i check out the iptables
[11:15] <BODMAS> ?
[11:15] <sresu> How do I set sound to default configurations??
[11:15] <haiyai> chown: changing ownership of `/media': Operation not permitted?
[11:15] <kirkous> man iptables .)
[11:15] <haiyai> why
[11:15] <plokij> BODMAS: if you don't have it installed you won't have any tables set up by default
[11:16] <Myrtti> haiyai: what are your permissions in the first place? if you can't mount usb the problem probably isn't on the access rights of /media
[11:16] <kirkous> try google iptables tutorial, it's quite tricky
[11:16] <DBoyz> hi i have a question here
[11:16] <mae_tae> how do i define in a zone file both public ip and local ip? is this possible?
[11:16] <plokij> !ask | DBoyz
[11:17] <haiyai> My permissions are now to my user and nothing will mount USB Myrtti
[11:17] <linux_direction> i just tried the follow dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdc and got a permission denied error. how do i gain the permision to execute the command?
[11:17] <DBoyz> when i tried to use my ubuntu, i get the gnu grub screen instead
[11:17] <haiyai> media file should be root right?
[11:17] <younder> sudo chmod ?
[11:17] <Myrtti> haiyai: could you pastebin what this command outputs: ls -ld /media
[11:17] <DBoyz> please help me with it
[11:17] <plokij> DBoyz: more details, does it not boot?
[11:17] <rjharv> linux_direction: try sudo dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdc
[11:17] <linux_direction> is that for me younder?
[11:18] <younder> linux_direction,  yes
[11:18] <linux_direction> Okay thanks younder. thanks rjharv.
[11:18] <rjharv> nps
[11:18] <DBoyz> plokij: it wont boot cuz it shows the gnu grub screen instead and i have no idea what to do next
[11:18] <haiyai> Myrtti                        drwx------   4 morgan morgan 16384 1970-01-01 09:00 media
[11:19] <plokij> DBoyz: any boot options?
[11:19] <DBoyz> plokij: kindly explain? i am new to ubuntu and i rarely use it (currently using W7)
[11:19] <younder> My home directory is encrypted so things get nasty when he system fails. Anyone know a way to handle this?
[11:20] <avanga> can some one hielp me installing tata photon plus usb modem device in my ubuntu1 0.10
[11:20] <avanga> can some one hielp me installing tata photon plus usb modem device in my ubuntu 10.10
[11:20] <plokij> DBoyz: on the grub screen does it show this 'GRUB:/>' or similar or does it show a box and some functions?
[11:20] <Myrtti> haiyai: you can try to change it with "sudo chmod 755 /media"
[11:21] <avanga> can some one hielp me installing tata photon plus usb modem device(olive V-ME101) in my ubuntu 10.10
[11:21] <younder> Myrtti, That is a pretty bad idea security wise
[11:21] <bazhang> avanga, patience please
[11:21] <haiyai> try
[11:22] <haiyai> now