[19:04] <Guest52724> how can i create that primary partition from my unallocated 200GB in a extended partition
[19:04] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: okay perhaps it's not in the version of xfce4-panel that you have, check out the  INSTALL file in the tar.gz file you downloaded for the detailed instructions, typically it's something like run ./configure then run make then run sudo make install but it varies for different projects
[19:04] <fortynine> i dont get why i cant just compile it
[19:05] <fortynine> just duno why the commands are failing
[19:05] <wafflej0ck> if I wasn't on an SSD I would just install a few other VMs on here but need to hook up an external so I can do that without eating through all my space
[19:05] <squinty> PROG05: due to the recent release of 14.10 some servers may be really busy causing transmissions lags.  as mentioned before, you might want to try another server to see if it is faster.  not really sure what you mean exactly by your last statement....
[19:06] <acovrig> wafflej0ck: so… purging ubuntu-desktop unity* compiz* lightdm* xorg xserver* && reboot then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop didn’t do anything…
[19:06] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: compiling isn't always trivial, it depends on a lot of stuff being in place and configuration for your system being done correctly so things get installed to the right location and can run with the right privileges and everything, that's why it's not recommended for people who are new to linux and why the repositories are so useful
[19:06] <acovrig> wafflej0ck: at this point I’m wondering if I need to do a re-install to get a GUI, but *really* don’t want to do that...
[19:06] <lancelot_of> no answers for me?
[19:06] <sokrat> как в Ubuntu 14.10 включить mir
[19:06] <wafflej0ck> acovrig: yeah bummer but I don't know what else to recommend trying after what you've already done and what we looked at... just don't know what else to try
[19:07] <PROG05> squinty: thanks
[19:07] <acovrig> wafflej0ck: yea, thanks anywho
[19:07] <wafflej0ck> acovrig: np godspeed
[19:08] <ubuntuaddicted> can anyone help me figure out how to make xfce drawing minimized windows? i know it's my compositor setting somewhere and i'm using compton but i can't figure it out. KDE has a checkbox for this sort of thing
[19:08] <squinty> !ru | sokrat
[19:08] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: yeah so the ./configure command first checks your system for the required dependencies to build the project typically, then the "make" command tells it to do whatever is the default in the Makefile which is typically compile all the source and link it all into an executable, then "make install" typically copies the files or makes symbolic links from /usr/bin so the programs are in the PATH so they get found when you type
[19:08] <wafflej0ck> them in the terminal
[19:09] <ceil> nouveau good for 3d gaimin or should i stick with 'nvidia' driver?
[19:09] <fortynine> i just added their PPA and it worked ^_^
[19:10] <fortynine> so much nicer now
[19:10] <wafflej0ck> ceil: not sure, if you aren't having problems though I probably wouldn't switch since drivers can be a big headache especially if you end up with two of them loading
[19:10] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: nice glad you got it sorted
[19:10] <ceil> wafflej0ck: i'm moving from AMD APU to a new nvidia card
[19:10] <ceil> so i need a new nvidia driver anyway
[19:10] <wafflej0ck> ceil: ah gotcha personally have used the proprietary most of the time so I can't say
[19:10] <ceil> just need to know if nouveau has a chance of playing UT4 or Portal 2
[19:11] <Guest52724> Is there any way you can make a primary partition from unallocated space in a extended partition
[19:11] <ceil> i got no problem using proprietary, but i'll support the OSS one if it can do what i need it to :p
[19:11] <Guest52724> if you only have 1 primary
[19:11] <wafflej0ck> ceil: for sure... I've heard it's pretty decent but just guess I trust Nvidia more with their own chipsets despite the whole closed source thing
[19:12] <DammitJim> can you guys point me to some good tutorials on how to join a ubuntu server to a windows domain?
[19:12] <wafflej0ck> and when it comes to gaming I don't want a fuxx
[19:12] <wafflej0ck> fuss*
[19:12] <DammitJim> this server I'm setting up is just a file server
[19:12] <ceil> word
[19:12] <ceil> i'm not too much a gamer, and i like stuff to just work
[19:12] <squinty> ceil: afik, it should load the nouveau driver after installing the new video card anyways, so try it first... if it doesn't meet requirements then Addition Drivers is the next option
[19:12] <ceil> but Epic are doing awesome things with UT4, and i wanna support that
[19:13] <ceil> squinty: oh, i don't use Ubuntu, i just know this channel's quick to offer help :)
[19:13] <ceil> (##linux ignored my query)
[19:13]  * ceil uses LMDE
[19:13] <wafflej0ck> ceil: running Arch? or Debian?
[19:13] <ceil> wafflej0ck: Linux Mint Debian Edition
[19:14] <ceil> but an old version atm, so need to install the new one anyway
[19:14] <ceil> maybe the installer will tell me if nouveau meets my needs :p
[19:14]  * ceil is currently in a text-only interface, due to having just started using the nv card with fglrx drivers :p
[19:14] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone in here familar with compton compositor? is there some setting that draws a preview of a window that's minimized?
[19:14] <ceil> (else i'd look all this up)
[19:14] <wafflej0ck> nice I liked Mint 15 or whatever it was I tried, but haven't followed the latest on that, curious about how LXQT is donig too
[19:15] <wafflej0ck> doing*
[19:15] <ceil> Mint's installer likes me more (dunno why, but Debian's always given me trouble), and i like the Cinnamon GUI :)
[19:16] <fortynine> wafflej0ck, thanks, and thanks for the help
[19:16] <wafflej0ck> fortynine: sure thing
[19:18] <Kottizen> How do I boot? http://archive.kottnet.net/upload/IMAG6088.jpg
[19:18] <wafflej0ck> DammitJim: sorry no idea about joining a domain really, I know you have samba/smb for file sharing but not sure about joining a domain
[19:18] <flounders> I am trying to upgrade some machines to 14.04 LTS from 12.04 LTS, but I am running into problems with do-release-upgrade. When it goes to calculate the changes it exits. Any ideas what I can do?
[19:19] <bekks> flounders: Whats the "exit message"?
[19:20] <squinty> Kottizen:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting#grub.3E  might want to try boot-repair
[19:20] <flounders> bekks: Give me a moment let me pull it up again.
[19:22] <Kottizen> squinty: How do I know where my kernel is located?
[19:22] <wafflej0ck> Kottizen: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#boot for your previous question, for the current one when doing the grub boot-repair it will scan the drive to find it for you
[19:23] <flounders> bekks: This is the output it gives me: paste.ubuntu.com/8660243/
[19:23] <bekks> Kottizen: It is located in /boot
[19:23] <bekks> flounders: does one of the reasons given apply?
[19:24] <wafflej0ck> flounders: yeah do you have packages installed from other sources that can't be upgraded potentially?
[19:24] <daznis666> Hello guys, how do I resolve this issue after updating to 14.10
[19:24] <flounders> I am not running pre-release as I have 12.04.5 LTS, and I am trying 14.04 LTS so that eliminates the first two.
[19:24] <daznis666> sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak
[19:24] <flounders> I don't believe there are any third party packages, but let me check.
[19:25] <daznis666> not this :(
[19:25] <Kottizen> I'll go ahead and re-install the system. Probably faster.
[19:25] <bekks> flounders: So can you pastebin "sudo apt-get update" please?
[19:25] <bekks> daznis666: Which issue?
[19:25] <wafflej0ck> Kottizen: yeah you are in better shape backing it all up particularly your user folder and clean install
[19:25] <jhutchins_wk> daznis666: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[19:25] <daznis666> wait I pastebin the code
[19:26] <Kottizen> wafflej0ck: I just installed it, there is nothing to take back up on.
[19:26] <flounders> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8660288/
[19:26] <wafflej0ck> Kottizen: even better :)
[19:26] <Kottizen> wafflej0ck: I think I chose the wrong device for boot loader installation, when I was here: http://archive.kottnet.net/upload/IMAG6087.jpg
[19:27] <daznis666> jhutchins_wk, bekks http://pastebin.com/U9HSUcCd after updating to 14.10 something got wrong
[19:28] <wafflej0ck> Kottizen: ah yeah I was working with a guy here who had a similar setup with lots of extra NTFS partitions makes it more confusing for sure
[19:28] <squinty> Kottizen:  yep. installed to your usb stick.  boot-repair should handle that ok though.  reinstalling is also good practice though  :P
[19:28] <bekks> daznis666: There are no issues, just a warning.
[19:28] <wafflej0ck> Kottizen: doing the grub boot-repair stuff isn't too bad usaully though
[19:28] <daznis666> bekks, how do i fix it?
[19:28] <k33n> hey
[19:28] <fortynine> anyone use jupiter here?
[19:28] <Kottizen> wafflej0ck, squinty: The thing is, I only have DVD-RW:s.
[19:28] <k33n> yes
[19:28] <bekks> daznis666: BY eliminating the duplicate source named.
[19:29] <daznis666> ok
[19:29] <k33n> im hungry
[19:29] <wafflej0ck> Kottizen: ah bummer gotta get yourself a flash drive, can get an 8GB for like $10 if you look around
[19:29] <wafflej0ck> er less probably
[19:29] <Kottizen> wafflej0ck: I definitely should, yes.
[19:30] <lancelot_of> probably mmy trouble wasn't read?
[19:30] <wafflej0ck> lancelot_of: saw it just didn't have an ansewr for ya
[19:30] <wafflej0ck> lancelot_of: probably worth repeating at this point though
[19:31] <wafflej0ck> lancelot_of: you might want to post your question to one of the forums too like ubuntuforums or the appropriate place to get more eyes on it and to have your whole issue laid out somewhere you can just link to
[19:31] <squinty> Kottizen:  boot-repair also offers a full live dvd boot disk.  you could also check out  rescatux  http://www.supergrubdisk.org/  but you probably will find it faster just to reinstall
[19:33] <flounders> bekks: Something I should mention these machines were running 10.04 and were upgraded to 12.04. Also I am typically a Fedora user, this is someone elses machine.
[19:33] <lancelot_of> wafflej0ck, thanks
[19:34] <Kottizen> squinty, wafflej0ck: I am back at this step now. I would like Kubuntu to be installed on the SSD/sdb. What should I do to make it boot? http://archive.kottnet.net/upload/IMAG6089.jpg
[19:38] <flounders> bekks: I just looked in /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log and saw this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8660388/
[19:39] <flounders> Any ideas how I can fix all the broken dependencies?
[19:41] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone else use compton compositor?
[19:41] <hazardous> hello
[19:41] <hazardous> i am installing ubuntu and doing 'configure network manually'
[19:41] <hazardous> but it will not let me use a gateway
[19:42] <bekks> flounders: You do not have broken dependencies currently. You should investigate where all those stange packages came from. Could you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[19:42] <hazardous> i have to set it up is <IP_ADDRESS> public ip, <IP_ADDRESS> subnet, <IP_ADDRESS> gateway
[19:42] <hazardous> but it apparently does not like that
[19:42] <ubuntuaddicted> hazardous, hello. glad to see another linux user here
[19:42] <hazardous> it rejects gw saying that i entered something wrong, when i know i don't enter anything wrong..
[19:43] <bekks> hazardous: <IP_ADDRESS> subnet is nonsense. the default gateway has to be in the same subnet as your host.
[19:43] <ubuntuaddicted> hazardous, that gateway address is rather strange, you connect directly to the net and dont' use a router?
[19:43] <Pici> ubuntuaddicted: I've never heard of it, but their github page says that they have a channel in #compton
[19:43] <hazardous> ubuntuaddicted: my upstream does arp proxying and broken routing
[19:43] <ubuntuaddicted> Pici, yes, i'm in the IRC channel thanks
[19:43] <hazardous> i explicitly have to have a gateway nowhere close to my public ip
[19:44] <hazardous> windows at least just asks me if i'm sure what i'm doing
[19:44] <ubuntuaddicted> hazardous, what bekks said
[19:44] <hazardous> bekks: my isp told me to use these settings
[19:44] <wafflej0ck> Kottizen: not super familiar with the KDE installation steps but the basic point is you need your BIOS to point to a disk and you need GRUB installed on that disk, the grub configuration in the /boot mount point will have the grub configuration that defines the menu options in the boot screen
[19:44] <hazardous> ubuntu and pfsense both don't want to allow me to do it
[19:44] <bekks> hazardous: then you ISP told you nonsense.
[19:44] <ubuntuaddicted> hazardous, try <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:44] <flounders> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8660459/
[19:44] <bekks> hazardous: the gateway has to be in the same subnet as your host, technically. thats a must.
[19:45] <ubuntuaddicted> flounders, why don't you upgrade, 9.04 is way way old
[19:45] <bekks> ubuntuaddicted: He is on 12.04
[19:45] <ubuntuaddicted> flounders, sorry, i see you're using 12.04
[19:45] <Kottizen> wafflej0ck: Thanks. I let the superior developers decide, by letting cgdisk entirely wipe sdb and then choosing "entire disk" for sdb in the installation. Hope this works.
[19:46] <hazardous> bekks: "Regardless of the size of your block, you will treat the IP address as a /32 with a netmask <IP_ADDRESS>. DO NOT try to use what should logically be the gateway IP for your IP block."
[19:46] <hazardous> i just need to force ubuntu to accept this or i can't continue the install
[19:47] <bekks> hazardous: You cannot use technically wrong settings. Ask your ISP on how they'd do that.
[19:48] <joeykapi> lubuntu won't give me stereo sound over hdmi
[19:49] <flounders> joeykapi: The volume mixer treats digital and analog out differently.
[19:50] <flounders> joeykapi: You will need to explicitly change the volume on the HDMI rather than just what is in your system tray.
[19:51] <joeykapi> well, the problem is that I only get mono sound, which isn't that nice if you try to play 3d games where you need to know where other things are
[19:53] <flounders> bekks: Removing the kde-runtime pulled all the offending packages. Now it will let me upgrade.
[19:54] <Quantos> Hey guys, I'm having a problem  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2249678
[19:54] <bekks> flounders: cool :)
[19:55] <joeykapi> Quantos: did you try scaling on your monitor?
[19:56] <Quantos> joeykapi: I'm not sure what you mean by 'scaling' do you mean adjusting it for cinema, normal or stretch?
[19:57] <mr_kernelpanic> hello, does anybody use ncmpcpp?
[19:57] <bekks> mr_kernelpanic: What ifß
[19:58] <bekks> mr_kernelpanic: Whats your actual question?
[19:58] <mr_kernelpanic> well i would like to know how i can retrieve the currently playing song
[19:58] <mr_kernelpanic> somehow --now-playing does not work
[19:58] <samthewildone> !offtopic
[19:59] <mr_kernelpanic> so wrong channel?
[20:00] <flounders> mr_kernelpanic: That would be correct.
[20:01] <Es0teric> how do i make it so when a user creates a file in a folder, it creates it in a default group?
[20:01] <bekks> Es0teric: The file is created with the primary group of the user.
[20:01] <Kottizen> willcooke: Worked! I wasn't presented with grub though, but it doesn't really matter. I rarely use Windows anyway.
[20:04] <Es0teric> bekks the permissions for folders are all fucked up
[20:05] <bekks> Es0teric: Please mind your language - and repair the permissions.
[20:07] <puff> My laptop's viewable screen size is significantly (.5" to .75" on each side) narrower than my actual screen.
[20:08] <RobinHood2015> My network icon is missing from my top panel. How do I get it back?
[20:09] <puff> RobinHood2015: The easiest way is to reboot, but that's so windowsy... you could try restarting the gnome netwokr-manager applet.
[20:09] <RobinHood2015> And the command for that is...?
[20:09] <simonor> Evening Chaps. Lost my rag earlier with 14.10
[20:10] <ChogyDan> hey folks, I'm looking for direction with this question: There are certain apps that have multiple windows, but a single process/session when run.  Even if you run them multiple times, just new windows are opened in the current session.  Can I force such an app to start a new session?
[20:10] <simonor> Status:14.10 has improved BCM43142 support.
[20:10] <puff> RobinHood2015: man -k network | fgrep -i manager
[20:11] <puff> ChogyDan: Highly application-dependent.
[20:11] <knightfelt> ChogyDan: What apps are you talking about specifically?
[20:11] <simonor> BCM43142 still not stable however.
[20:11] <simonor> Deal-breaker? No audio on rendered video in Kdenlive and Openshot
[20:12] <simonor> Timing also wrong in Kdenlive.
[20:12] <ChogyDan> knightfelt: well, sublime in particular, atm.  I think chrome has command line options for that...
[20:12] <sands> i need help
[20:13] <knightfelt> sands: what's the problem?
[20:13] <simonor> Also, printer addition needs a system reboot, like windows or something h8.0teful
[20:13] <bekks> simonor: Thats not true.
[20:13] <bekks> simonor: Adding a printer does not need a reboot.
[20:13] <simonor> So, I've reverted to 14.04, which would be perfect if it wasn't for the bad BCM43142
[20:14] <sands> i need help with lubuntu, I cannot change my users and groups because I can't confirm my choices because the window is covered
[20:14] <RobinHood2015> I don't see anything on how to restart NetworkManager, though...
[20:14] <ChogyDan> sands: if the windows are too big, you can drag them by holding the alt key
[20:14] <simonor> sands:covered button?  I keep getting my data half transfered via samba and then I get permissions errors because I only own half the files?
[20:19] <bekks> sands: You cant. NTFS does not understand linux permissions.
[20:19] <ChogyDan> RobinHood2015: I would guess: sudo service network-manager restart
[20:20] <RobinHood2015> Yes, but that doesn't help as far as getting the network icon back, does it?
[20:20] <spaztik> you can also restart network-manager itself
[20:20] <sands> the windows disk is broken so I am trying to transfer all of her files to her main pc
[20:20] <spaztik> RobinHood2015: if the icon is missing it might be your panel that's at fault
[20:20] <sands> I am running lubuntu on a seperate partition
[20:21] <spaztik> RobinHood2015: http://askubuntu.com/questions/507310/network-manager-icon-disappeared-14-04
[20:21] <spaztik> first result for "network manager icon missing ubuntu"
[20:22] <RobinHood2015_> Yes, that's what I'm suspecting. I don't think I'd be able to talk to you guys if the network-manager service was the problem... So how do I fix a broken panel?
[20:22] <spaztik> what DE are you using? Unity?
[20:22] <sands> will I have to back up to an external drive so I can get the files off? or will I run into permissions trouble there too??
[20:22] <joeykapi> I have some weird problems on my new PC with a r9 270x Graphics card. The screen randomly flickers, and I can't find any error logs (unity)
[20:22] <RobinHood2015_> spaztik: yeah, that's right
[20:23] <spaztik> RobinHood2015 first check that link, it tells it to start with dbus, which is probably more stable than what's working right now
[20:23] <RobinHood2015_> spaztik: can you repost that link? when i restarted network-manager, it kicked me off here and i had to log back in, and it cleared the screen
[20:23] <spaztik> RobinHood2015: http://askubuntu.com/questions/507310/network-manager-icon-disappeared-14-04
[20:26] <RobinHood2015_> Okay, I've got a problem. I tried to run 'dbus-launch nm-applet' in a terminal, and it told me: nm-applet-Message: using fallback from indicator to GtkStatusIcon
[20:26] <puff> I just upgraded to 14.04.  I have a thinkpad t520 with (ptui!) nvidia graphics.  What's the common wisdom on graphics drivers these days?
[20:27] <Bashing-om> puff: When you upgraded, did you leave a proprietary driver installed,; that now is broken ?
[20:28] <puff> Bashing-om: "Additional drivers" says I'm "Using NVIDIA legacy binary driver - version 304.117 from nvidia-304 (proprietary)"
[20:29] <nexus6> i wonder how many people/bots/nicks Ive talked to before in here
[20:29] <jhutchins_wk> RobinHood2015_: What desktop are you running?
[20:29] <puff> Bashing-om: It looks like the black bars on the edge of the screen thing is related to resolution, when I reset resolution to 1920x1080 I have the full screen.
[20:29]  * nexus6 types to himself
[20:29] <nexus6> OH HEY: I just got Ubuntu 14: do I need Gnome or some GUI desktop?
[20:29] <jhutchins_wk> RobinHood2015_: It's something like gnome-network-manager-applet - you run that and that generates the icon.
[20:29] <nexus6> I like the factory grade ubuntu :(
[20:30] <Bashing-om> puff: Is that driver in fact loaded ? terminal command -> sudo lshw -C display <- to know what is .
[20:30] <jhutchins_wk> nexus6: Some people don't need a GUI.  Depends on what you want to do.
[20:30] <puff> Bashing-om: so now I'm just sort of asking in general.  Graphics wise, I don't do that much, my main concern is using external monitors. Currently I use a Dell usharp 24" via the VGA port.
[20:31] <puff> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8661072/
[20:31] <puff> Looks like it's defaulting to the onboard intel.
[20:32] <Bashing-om> puff: Graphics drivers, common wisdom is "try" open source, then the drivers available from Additional Drivers, then PPA, as a final solution try the drivers from Nvidia ( expect breakage each time the kernel is upgraded ).
[20:32] <puff> It's t520 optimus so it in theory switches between built in intel or nvidia.
[20:32] <puff> Bashing-om: Thanks.
[20:32] <PixelButterfly> hi, I'm having a problem with my ethernet cables. Ubuntu recognizes them and it attempts to connect to no avail. it says NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet. any help?
[20:32] <puff> Bashing-om: I'll go try that.
[20:33] <Bashing-om> puff: Hybrid graphics ??? a whole new ball game ! As the manufactures do not directly support linux with drivers .
[20:33] <TeraJL> is there any way to install this app https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/trusty/war-in-a-box-paper-tanks/ on  14.10 ?
[20:35] <wldcordeiro> So I was upgrading my laptop from 14.04 to 14.10 and my graphics driver was apparently configured improperly.
[20:35] <Bashing-om> puff: switchable graphics, while I look see:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics .
[20:36] <wldcordeiro> I have the choice to run in low graphics but it won't load.
[20:36] <wldcordeiro> Just goes to a screen where there's a flashing cursor but it isn't a shell.
[20:36] <wldcordeiro> Exiting to console gives me the same screen
[20:37] <wldcordeiro> There is an xserver log but the startup errors is empty.
[20:37] <bubbasaures> wldcordeiro, You can use a tty terminal if needed, or the root in recovery once you mount read write.
[20:37] <Bashing-om> puff: This "configuration: driver=i915" says right now you are running on the Intel on-board graphics .
[20:38] <ChogyDan> wldcordeiro: what kind of graphics?
[20:39] <demon-k2008> I from Russia, write through the translator, so excuse that if crookedly translates. Prompt the people please, for screws there was a program of Goden FTP Server earlier? There is an analog for Ubunta? On that program it was possible to select simply the file and to receive the link for direct access from a network.
[20:39] <wldcordeiro> ChogyDan: I have a hybrid AMD/Intel graphics setup.
[20:40] <mac_15> Hi To everyone
[20:40] <RobinHood2015> There is no gnome-network-manager-applet!
[20:40] <samthewildone> !updatedb
[20:41] <wldcordeiro> ChogyDan: It's the Intel 4400, and an AMD Radeon 8750M
[20:41] <ChogyDan> wldcordeiro: you can run `dkms status` to check proprietary drivers
[20:41] <ChogyDan> RobinHood2015: it is nm-applet, so the command would be something like: nm-applet $ disown
[20:42] <Bashing-om> puff: For Intel/Nvidia set up I often see BumbleBee OR Nvidia-Prime recommended.
[20:42] <wldcordeiro> ChogyDan: I tried that and got a bad conf file but it's also complaining about read only on /usr/sbin/dkms
[20:42] <wldcordeiro> So I think I need to mount but I'm not sure the command for that.
[20:43] <ChogyDan> wldcordeiro: is this a live install you are running?
[20:43] <wldcordeiro> ChogyDan: It was running 14.04 that I upgraded earlier.
[20:43] <wldcordeiro> I just ran mount -o rw,remount /
[20:43] <wldcordeiro> and now when I ran dkms status
[20:44] <wldcordeiro> it returned
[20:44] <wldcordeiro> fglrx-core, 14.201 3.13.0 installed
[20:44] <PixelButterfly> hi, I'm having a problem with my ethernet cables. Ubuntu recognizes them and it attempts to connect to no avail. it says NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet. any help?
[20:44] <wldcordeiro> and 3.16 installed
[20:44] <wldcordeiro> as well as virtualbox installed.
[20:44] <wldcordeiro> on 3.13 and 16
[20:44] <ChogyDan> wldcordeiro: strongly suggest using pastebin
[20:45] <wldcordeiro> ChogyDan: will do.
[20:45] <bekks> PixelButterfly: So configure an IP?
[20:45] <wafflej0ck> PixelButterfly: what do you get when you run ifconfig
[20:46] <PixelButterfly> I get 3 different interfaces
[20:46] <bekks> PixelButterfly: Pastebin the output please and provide the URL.
[20:46] <PixelButterfly> sure
[20:46] <wldcordeiro> ChogyDan: http://pastebin.com/HmicXEaH
[20:47] <wldcordeiro> That's the result of dkmx status
[20:47] <wldcordeiro> dkms*
[20:47] <demon-k2008>  Prompt the people please, for screws there was a program of Goden FTP Server earlier? There is an analog for Ubunta? On that program it was possible to select simply the file and to receive the link for direct access from a network.
[20:47] <Bashing-om> PixelButterfly: Can you ping your router ? .. What results -> ping -c3 <IP_ADDRESS> <- ?
[20:47] <PixelButterfly> sure, here you go
[20:47] <PixelButterfly> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8661253/
[20:47] <bekks> demon-k2008: vsftpd
[20:47] <nexus6> I love: Ubuntu
[20:47] <PixelButterfly> well right now I'm sharing a USB connection w/ my Android phone
[20:48] <bekks> PixelButterfly: And there is a cable connected to eth0?
[20:48] <PixelButterfly> if I try that I'd have to disconnect, but a ping wouldn't work before
[20:48] <PixelButterfly> yes bekks
[20:48] <ChogyDan> wldcordeiro: looks good.  but it's weird how you have 3.16 as your kernel, and I only have 3.13
[20:48] <PixelButterfly> oh
[20:48] <PixelButterfly> nope, hold on
[20:49] <sx0z> pms-1.90.1-setup-full.exe
[20:49] <PixelButterfly> let me paste the output again
[20:49] <SlazO> good evening everyone!
[20:49] <ChogyDan> wa-weird, for some reason, linux wasn't upgraded on my install
[20:49] <wldcordeiro> ChogyDan: 14.10 updates to 3.16 iirc
[20:49] <sx0z> set;\me
[20:49] <PixelButterfly> here http://paste.ubuntu.com/8661292/
[20:50] <PixelButterfly> it's connected now
[20:50] <Kottizen> Hi everyone, again. How do I fix this? I would like to use one of the non-recommended drivers. http://archive.kottnet.net/temp/VIDEO0216.mp4
[20:50] <sx0z> Open Source
[20:50] <sx0z> AVI, H.264, MP3, MP4, MPG, TS, Xvid
[20:50] <bekks> Kottizen: Could you describe your issue please, I dont want to watch a video :)
[20:51] <sx0z> cable box modem 2600-os 738398
[20:51] <Kottizen> bekks: When I select a non-recommended driver in jockey, it takes about five seconds until I am presented with the same view again, and the old driver selected.
[20:51] <sx0z> me = em set +/738398
[20:51] <sx0z> lkp
[20:51] <Kottizen> bekks: The video is 30 seconds long and describes the issue. No sound needed.
[20:52] <sx0z> link
[20:52] <sx0z> | IPOD | PSP | PS3 | XBOX360 | PC |
[20:52] <PixelButterfly> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8661292/
[20:52] <sx0z> television cable life
[20:52] <bekks> sx0z: Stop it please.
[20:52] <sx0z> 12q11q
[20:52] <PixelButterfly> whenever I turn on that connection it will keep trying to connect and fail multiple times
[20:52] <sx0z> pornVCD2DVDMPG
[20:53] <bekks> PixelButterfly: Is there a DHCP server running which would serve an IP address?
[20:53] <PixelButterfly> umm.. how can I find that out?
[20:54] <jimmy51v_> anyone know how to modify the liveCD installer to allow for .'s in usernames?
[20:54] <jimmy51v_> i modifed line 66 of ubi-usersetup.py to this: elif not re.match('^[-a-z0-9_.]+$', username)
[20:54] <jimmy51v_> didn't help
[20:54] <PixelButterfly> in Windows it worked perfectly, same goes for the PS3 and the other computer in the house
[20:54] <Bushmaster> hello just need some advice please
[20:54] <bekks> PixelButterfly: Did you try to manually configure your network interface?
[20:55] <wldcordeiro> Completely confused with what to do at this point. :/
[20:55] <PixelButterfly> not really, should I?
[20:55] <bekks> PixelButterfly: Of course.
[20:55] <wldcordeiro> Maybe reinstalling my drivers from the root console.
[20:55] <PixelButterfly> and how would I go about doing that?
[20:55] <demon-k2008> -bekks- Thanks, I will study now that that you prompted to me.
[20:55] <Bushmaster> i installed ubuntu and now in the command prompt, i typed su and put correct password yet it says authentication failure hence wont allowing me to get to root, how i solve this problem?
[20:55] <bekks> !root | Bushmaster
[20:55] <PixelButterfly> I have a very faint notion of how to do that because I've done it with a Wifi connection before
[20:56] <bekks> PixelButterfly: you could follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[20:56] <OerHeks> jimmy51v_, this page may be any help, it warns against it and give a solution http://askubuntu.com/questions/405638/what-are-the-disadvantages-of-having-a-dot-in-a-user-name
[20:57] <Tsutsukakushi> hello
[20:57] <OerHeks> jimmy51v_, still possible it breaks something
[20:57] <PixelButterfly> alright, will do
[20:57] <PixelButterfly> one escond!
[20:57] <PixelButterfly> second*
[20:58] <Tsutsukakushi> i have problems with turning hardware block off on a toshiba laptop, it worked fine ón another installation
[20:58] <Tsutsukakushi> could there be anything else causing this other than it being broken?
[20:58] <jimmy51v_> OerHeks:  ah, thanks
[20:58] <Tsutsukakushi> any kernel modules or anything?
[20:58] <bekks> Tsutsukakushi: Whats "hardware block"?
[20:58] <PixelButterfly> bekks, I'll be back in a while
[20:58] <Tsutsukakushi> rfkill hard block
[20:58] <PixelButterfly> I'll try doing that
[20:58] <Tsutsukakushi> on wifi
[20:59] <PixelButterfly> thanks :)
[20:59] <gr33n7007h> Tsutsukakushi, sudo rfkill unblock all
[20:59] <Tsutsukakushi> didn't work
[21:00] <Tsutsukakushi> the fn+f8 button didn't have any effect either
[21:00] <Tsutsukakushi> even tho it should have
[21:00] <Bushmaster> thanks ubottu  just read, helpful
[21:00] <jimmy51v_> OerHeks: weird.  that value is commented out
[21:02] <lius> ccciao
[21:05] <Bushmaster> hi again, i need to install few python programming related packages, when i go to software center and type Matplotlib which is python package i see ranges of them but when i type the same thing in terminal it says it cant find any
[21:05] <acerspyro> checksum for ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso ?
[21:05] <samthewildone> Where is the ~theme folder ?
[21:05] <acerspyro> My buddy says he can't find it.
[21:05] <wldcordeiro> Bushmaster: get virtualenv setup and use the pip within the virtualenv instead of the software center.
[21:06] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, "apt-cache search matplotlib" in terminal
[21:06] <samthewildone> using gnome 3 but, I do not have a 'theme' directory in my home directory.
[21:06] <Moter8> Where can I find md5 hashes for 14.10.1?
[21:07] <Moter8> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes only shows 14.10
[21:07] <acerspyro> ^
[21:07] <bekks> Moter8: There is no 14.10.1 and there never will be.
[21:07] <Moter8> eg for ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:07] <acerspyro> Moter8: Wait, yeah
[21:07] <Moter8> bekks, what am i downloading then from http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:07] <acerspyro> Latest is 14.04
[21:07] <bekks> Moter8: 14.04.1 ...
[21:07] <Moter8> ohlol
[21:07] <napsc> scroll down
[21:07] <acerspyro> Retard :)
[21:07] <Moter8> sorry then, lol
[21:08] <Bushmaster> gr33n7007h, great, it shows exactly the list now i saw in software center, so can i install by typing apt-get and then typing exactly the way it was shown in the cache list?
[21:08] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, yep :)
[21:09] <Bashing-om> Moter8: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/MD5SUMS
[21:09] <Moter8> Bashing-om, i forgot how to brain :/
[21:11] <hikero> hi
[21:11] <Bashing-om> Moter8: As in ? -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM ?
[21:11] <hikero> Hey
[21:11] <Moter8> nope :)
[21:11] <Moter8> mixed up 14.10 and 14.10 on the ubuntu download page.
[21:12] <Moter8> 14.04 duh
[21:12] <Bushmaster> gr33n7007h, HI again, when i did sudo apt-get etc with python-numpy it said, python numpy is already the newest version,  does it means its already installed
[21:12] <Bashing-om> Moter8: Friday, and takes extra effort to focus (?) .
[21:13] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, yes
[21:15] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, apt-cache show <packagename> will show you installed state
[21:17] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, that should be "apt-cache policy <package_name>" sorry about that :)
[21:17] <spiftheninja> anyone know a reliable way to time my autoperform so i don't flood? PLEASE PM ME, WILL TIP
[21:17] <gasbag> is there a netinst iso for either ubuntu or kubuntu?
[21:18] <Pici> !minimal | gasbag
[21:18] <gasbag> ubottu:  tnx so much!  I'll check it out.
[21:18] <gasbag> ha!
[21:19] <Moter8> heh
[21:19] <Pici> gasbag: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ for the latest ones or s/i386/amd64/
[21:19] <gasbag> Pici:  cool thanks
[21:19] <Bushmaster> gr33n7007h, just installed SciTools under Python, hence the delay, so the command u provided, in the package name, shall i just type Python
[21:19] <gasbag> gasbag becomes gasbotto...
[21:20] <VictorSeb> hi, friends. I'm trying to install Apache Cordova on Ubuntu. I followed the instructions on Cordova documentation (installed node, npm, and then Cordova via npm). Now, when I try running a command using cordova, nothing happens. It autocompletes the word cordova, but it doesn't even show the version. Any ideas on what the problem could be?
[21:20] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, what for the interactive python shell?
[21:21] <Inspireless124> Cordova is a bitch.
[21:22] <Bushmaster> well i got the shell, a basic one, IDLE, well plan is to move to sophisticated shell later on, but the book i am following for work on mathematical modeling on python suggested IDLE shell gr33n7007h
[21:22] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, I'd just use ipython for now
[21:23] <Bushmaster> is it a editor gr33n7007h
[21:23] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, no, it is a REPL
[21:23] <Bushmaster> what is that gr33n7007h
[21:23] <Pici> Also #python might be helpful once you do start doing some programming :)
[21:24] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, basically the same as the interactive python shell, but many advanced features
[21:24] <VictorSeb> Inspireless124: yeah, it should be working already. I'm trying to look up some solution, but all I can find are tutorials teaching the same thing as the documentation
[21:24] <Jack_L> I just downloaded a tar.gz from a unknown source. I'm in Ubuntu 14.04. How worried should I be?
[21:25] <wafflej0ck> VictorSeb: I've used Ionic framework but not cordova directly
[21:25] <wafflej0ck> VictorSeb: ionic was pretty painless beyond setting up the environment variables for android developer tools
[21:26] <wafflej0ck> VictorSeb: you can run "which cordova" to see where it's trying to run from
[21:26] <OerHeks> Jack_L, why do you need an answer?
[21:26] <Bushmaster> cool gr33n7007h i am just following idle, a basic shell that book suggested, do u do lots of programming, mainly mathematical one?
[21:27] <Jack_L> OerHeks: I'm worried about safety issues. I haven't executed the file, just deleted.
[21:27] <VictorSeb> Thanks, wafflej0ck. It is trying to run it from /usr/local/bin/cordova
[21:27] <wafflej0ck> VictorSeb: you can also ls -al on that path it gave to see if it's a symbolic link to somewhere else
[21:27] <wafflej0ck> VictorSeb: but basically if that file is where it says it is then it should run fine
[21:28] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, not really python more ruby :)
[21:28] <OerHeks> Jack_L, no worry about downloading only.
[21:28] <VictorSeb> wafflej0ck: hmm, running ls -al showed me: /usr/local/bin/cordova -> ../lib/node_modules/cordova/bin/cordova
[21:29] <Guest57250> Looking for help with 14.04 and wifi, using wpa.
[21:29] <Jack_L> OerHeks, Ok then. Thanks for the answer.
[21:30] <VictorSeb> I'll take a look at lonic. I didn't know it. Thanks,  wafflej0ck.
[21:31] <Guest57250> Using an older Dell Inspiron 9300 with an Intel 2200bg based wifi.
[21:31] <wafflej0ck> VictorSeb: yeah np I'm pretty experienced with AngularJS you can join the #angularjs chat if you go with cordova too and need to know about the JS framework itself
[21:31] <Bushmaster> thanks for the help anyway, gr33n7007h  bye for now
[21:31] <eVangList> can someone write marijuana in dash and type enter? i think im geting a bug
[21:31] <gr33n7007h> Bushmaster, np
[21:32] <Guest57250> can connect to open wifi, but not wpa secured.
[21:32] <gr33n7007h> Guest57250, can u connect manually?
[21:32] <Guest57250> tried editing wpa_supplicant.conf and network/interfaces without success
[21:32] <VictorSeb> wafflej0ck: all right, thanks :)
[21:33] <Guest57250> I can connect via wired connection or to an open network
[21:33] <Guest57250> but it just prompts me for the connection pwd when I try to use WPA
[21:34] <eVangList> you need to save the passwords in kwallet
[21:34] <Guest57250> have removed and re-installed wpagui, wpasupplicant, networkmanager
[21:34] <gr33n7007h> Is the router your trying to connect to WPA?
[21:35] <Guest57250> yes.   this connection worked for the first couple of months using 14.04, but stopped about a month ago after an ubuntu update
[21:35] <Guest57250> several other devices connect to the router using wpa
[21:36] <eVangList> have you tryed kismet?
[21:36] <Guest57250> posted an entry in askubuntu, but no answer yet
[21:38] <Guest57250> I can see the secured networks listed, but cannot connect to any of those (where I know the pwd).
[21:38] <Guest57250> and the wpa_gui does not show any of the detail and does not scan
[21:39] <Guest57250> any ideas on a good site for guidance? --- I have tried 20+
[21:39] <gr33n7007h> Guest57250,   Try and connect manually first: "wpa_passphrase ssid passphrase > wpa.conf"
[21:39] <Guest57250> I do that and get a psk back just fine
[21:40] <gr33n7007h> Guest57250, "wpa_supplicant -B -Dwext -iwlanN -cwpa.conf"
[21:40] <Guest57250> then I cut/paste that psk into the wpa_supplicant.conf
[21:40] <gr33n7007h> change N for the number of your interface
[21:40] <bekks> Guest57250: https://help.ubuntu.com/
[21:40] <gr33n7007h> Guest57250, no nedd to cut/paste
[21:40] <gr33n7007h> *need
[21:41] <Guest57250> when you are using wpa.conf, do you mean that literally or shorthand for wpa_supplicant.conf?
[21:42] <gr33n7007h> no literally
[21:42] <Guest57250> all the doc says wpa_supplicant.conf
[21:42] <Nbersain> Hey all, I tried to get some help yesterday with my new Ubuntu installation but I have gotten nowhere.
[21:42] <gr33n7007h> doesn't matter this creates it: "wpa_passphrase ssid passphrase > wpa.conf"
[21:43] <Guest57250> trying
[21:44] <DuckDude> hi :D
[21:44] <volty> I want to whoever to run cpufreq-set, so in sudoers I inserted:   ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/cpufreq-set
[21:44] <volty> what's wrong (i cannot execute it)
[21:44] <volty> ?
[21:44] <Nbersain> I'm about to just reinstall windows and forget about using Linux, stiff just dosen't work the way I want it to.  Help please?
[21:45] <Nbersain> Stuff*
[21:45] <eVangList> buy a mac
[21:45] <eVangList> you get the same experience only alot more expensive
[21:46] <Nbersain> No, I'm determined to get this to work.
[21:46] <Guest57250> no go.   pasting in the session....
[21:46] <Guest57250> root@patrick-Inspiron-9300:/etc# wpa_passphrase belkin.666 3eb6B632 > wpa.conf
[21:46] <Guest57250> root@patrick-Inspiron-9300:/etc# wpa_supplicant -B -Dwext -ieth1 -cwpa.conf
[21:46] <Guest57250> Successfully initialized wpa_supplicant
[21:46] <Guest57250> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument
[21:46] <Guest57250> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument
[21:46] <unopaste> Guest57250 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:46] <gr33n7007h> Guest57250, eth1 is wired
[21:47] <DuckDude> stupid bot lel
[21:47] <eVangList> wep
[21:47] <tonygaga> hi guys short question i what's up with the reverse-i-search has it been updated or is it just my version ? it shows multiple hits from the history and you can choose between them...
[21:48] <Guest57250> in mine eth0 is wired and eth1 is wireless
[21:48] <tonygaga> lol that english.
[21:48] <tonygaga> whatever, i think i messed up my reverse-i-search
[21:49] <gr33n7007h> Guest57250, is it built in wireless?
[21:49] <eVangList> is that when someone from the internet searches your computer?
[21:50] <Guest57250> builtin Intel 2200BG card
[21:50] <tonygaga> if smb could help me i would be very glad
[21:50] <Gray> tonygaga; what issue do you have?
[21:50] <eVangList> !seen smb
[21:51] <Gray> eVangList, he meant 'somebody'
[21:51] <tonygaga> Gray: it doesn't look like my old search when i reverse search for commands (you know, the one liner where you can repeatedly press ctrl r to go through)
[21:51] <tonygaga> Gray: but rather a list which is grepped live
[21:51] <Gray> tonygaga; what search are you referring to?
[21:52] <geirha> oh, reverse-history-search?
[21:52] <tonygaga> command line reverse-i-search
[21:52] <Gray> ah
[21:52] <geirha> err, reverse-search-history
[21:52] <tonygaga> geirha: what's up with that
[21:53] <geirha> tonygaga: Don't know. I don't remember there being any changes to it lately
[21:53] <tonygaga> i didn't change anything on my system apart from messing a bit with color depths from the terminal
[21:53] <Guest57250> gr33n7007h   I opened a separate window
[21:53] <gr33n7007h> Guest57250, try a simple "ifconfig eth1 down && ifconfig eth1 up" and try to reconnect using network-manager?
[21:54] <geirha> tonygaga: are you sure you're using bash?  run  ps -p $$
[21:54] <tonygaga> geirha: what is ctrl+T for?
[21:54] <tonygaga> geirha: because it looks very similar to that ok lemme check
[21:54] <tonygaga> yea its bash
[21:54] <tonygaga> xterm if im not wrong
[21:55] <geirha> ctrl+t is bount to transpose chars by default; never used it myself
[21:55] <geirha> *bound
[21:55] <Guest57250> will put result  in other dialoge window --- have tried similar before
[21:55] <gr33n7007h> ok
[21:56] <tonygaga> geirha: ok ... very strange because i accid. pressed ctrl t instead of t and i think it looks different now because of that but i could be wrong
[21:56] <tonygaga> *instead of  r
[21:57] <eVangList> im wondering what unicorn shit smells like
[21:57] <DaGuich> eVangList: lol? :D
[21:57] <geirha> tonygaga: bind -p | grep '\\C-t'
[21:57] <tonygaga> geirha: nothing
[21:58] <irgendwer4711> hi, how to get a list of installed packages and a list of these packages and versions numbers if I would do a dist-upgrade?
[21:58] <DaGuich> eVangList: everything okay with you? :D
[21:58] <geirha> tonygaga: then Ctrl+t is not bound to anything
[21:58] <tonygaga> irgendwer4711: https://wiki.debian.org/ListInstalledPackages
[21:59] <tonygaga> geirha: that's strange because it does sth
[21:59] <irgendwer4711> tonygaga: for my system
[21:59] <tonygaga> ubuntu is debian based
[21:59] <irgendwer4711> tonygaga: should show the new versions!
[21:59] <eVangList> once i toke MnMs and the the dude told me you could see unicorns but all i saw was white elephants
[21:59] <tonygaga> geirha: it shows every file in the current dir
[21:59] <DaGuich> irgendwer4711: read the site
[22:00] <irgendwer4711> DaGuich: there is no hint for this
[22:00] <PixelButterfly> hello bekks
[22:00] <geirha> tonygaga: Odd
[22:00] <tonygaga> geirha: yea.. i think i might try turning it off and on again xD
[22:00] <tonygaga> geirha: i really ned ctrlR
[22:00] <eVangList> i hop they get their mobile linux toghether so i can install kali on my phone
[22:00] <tonygaga> need
[22:01] <PixelButterfly> I did what you suggested and I got it to "connect". but I can't connect to anything, can't ping anything including IP addresses within my own network, etc
[22:01] <DaGuich> irgendwer4711: auf der seite steht wie es geht...
[22:01] <irgendwer4711> DaGuich: nein tut es nicht
[22:01] <geirha> tonygaga: bind -q reverse-search-history
[22:01] <geirha> should say: reverse-search-history can be invoked via "\C-r".
[22:02] <eVangList> oh you think your so cleaver cause to speak german?
[22:02] <irgendwer4711> eVangList: who?
[22:02] <tonygaga> geirha: nothing just shows >
[22:02] <eVangList> is anyone else speaking german in here?
[22:02] <irgendwer4711> yes
[22:03] <eVangList> wonderbar
[22:03] <irgendwer4711> or maybe you filtered DaGuich
[22:03] <geirha> tonygaga: >? is that your PS1 prompt?
[22:03] <DaGuich> over here :D
[22:03] <genii> !ot | eVangList
[22:03] <Webster`> anyone able and willing to help out with a 'crashed' ext4 partition?
[22:03] <geirha> tonygaga: try Ctrl+c to abort the current command, then try again
[22:03] <tonygaga> geirha: i'll just reboot before you'll waste more time / ich werde einfach kurz rebooten bevor du mehr zeit vergeudest
[22:04] <geirha> reboot shouldn't make a difference
[22:04] <NegativeFlare> !german | eVangList
[22:04] <irgendwer4711> lol
[22:04] <tonygaga> geirha: hmm
[22:04] <tehcereal> hello anyone uses hexchat? I need to see if only my install is bugged or not
[22:05] <tehcereal> if oyu type /list does it open a new window?
[22:05] <Webster`> anyone able and willing to help out with a 'crashed' ext4 partition?
[22:05] <tehcereal> or just lists the channels in the server window?
[22:05] <NegativeFlare> !repeate | Webster`
[22:05] <irgendwer4711> try testdisk Webster`
[22:05] <NegativeFlare> !repeat | Webster`
[22:05] <NegativeFlare> ._.
[22:05] <Webster`> :]
[22:05] <geirha> Tondinahk: >  is the default PS2-prompt, which is shown when you have an unclosed command
[22:06] <eVangList> a friend of mine tells me only the boers use ubuntu
[22:06] <tonygaga> geirha: you where right ...
[22:06] <tonygaga> were
[22:06] <tehcereal> anyone?:D
[22:06] <irgendwer4711> now how to list the packages I would get this dist-upgrade?
[22:07] <eVangList> everyone is hanged over for the release party
[22:07] <Webster`> irgendwer4711, testdisk seems like extundelete in that it recovers to another partition.. unfortunately I haven't got the space for that. It does seem like my filesystem is intact after fsck, but there are no files
[22:07] <geirha> tonygaga: >  is the default PS2-prompt, which is shown when you have an unclosed comman<d
[22:07] <irgendwer4711> Webster`: use knoppix
[22:07] <eVangList> how do i defrag the HDD using ubuntu?
[22:08] <irgendwer4711> LOL
[22:08] <Webster`> irgendwer4711: livecd u mean?
[22:08] <NegativeFlare> eVangList: you don't need too, EXT4 doesn't need defragging.
[22:08] <irgendwer4711> Webster`: yes, do you running your crashed pc?
[22:08] <eVangList> like that makes any sence
[22:08] <tonygaga> geirha: i don't really understand.. i though i was on ps1
[22:08] <NegativeFlare> eVangList: I can provide links :)
[22:08] <eVangList> lies
[22:08] <tonygaga> geirha: are changes affected immediately from the ~/.bashrc ?
[22:09] <NegativeFlare> eVangList: http://www.howtogeek.com/115229/htg-explains-why-linux-doesnt-need-defragmenting/
[22:09] <eVangList> keep drinking the coolaid
[22:10] <think> ext4 filesystem already allocates files in an intelligent way unlike fat which is why you defrag that
[22:10] <Webster`> irgendwer4711: pc is running, it just one data drive that crashed..  Run  source ~/.bashrc  to re-source it
[22:10] <eVangList> how coll is that
[22:11] <eVangList> cool*
[22:11] <Jordan_U> eVangList: Stop the offtopic comments, this is your last warning. If you have an Ubuntu support question, feel free to ask it.
[22:11] <eVangList> my bad
[22:12] <tonygaga> geirha: so this'export TERM=xterm-256color' is the only thing i changed since it doesn't work ... and i just checked that
[22:13] <geirha> tonygaga: that will fail horribly if you run it in a terminal that is not xterm compatible and supports 256 colors
[22:14] <Webster`> how does knoppix differ from ubuntu when the OS disk is fine?
[22:14] <geirha> TERM should ideally only ever be set by your terminal emulator; never by the shell
[22:14] <bekks> Webster`: We dont know, since Knoppix is not an Ubuntu derivative.
[22:14] <tonygaga> geirha: it works for vim.. ok i'll reverse that
[22:15] <sacarlson> Webster`: as I recall it was much smaller
[22:15] <Webster`> sacarlson: I downloaded the 4GB DVD, making bootable usb now
[22:15] <eVangList> theres a new emacs version with embed web server
[22:16] <sacarlson> Webster`: 4gb I would assume that's ubuntu then
[22:16] <eVangList> ?
[22:17] <NegativeFlare> eVangList: You were warned.
[22:17] <Webster`> sacarlson: KNOPPIX_V7.4.1DVD-2014-09-15-EN.iso          14-Sep-2014 16:12  4.0G
[22:17] <tonygaga> geirha:
[22:17] <tonygaga> http://imgur.com/MNKK3nz
[22:17] <genii> eVangList: You've already been told not to clutter the support channel with offtopic ramblings. Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic instead as you were already asked
[22:17] <eVangList> Because of the way this approach works, you will start to see fragmentation if your file system fills up. If it’s 95% (or even 80%) full, you’ll start to see some fragmentation.
[22:17] <tonygaga> this is what it looks lke
[22:18] <eVangList> so its seem theres fragmentation after all
[22:18] <geirha> tonygaga: ok, so you've changed the PS1 prompt to > ?
[22:19] <tonygaga> no
[22:19] <geirha> tonygaga: Then what am I looking at?
[22:19] <tonygaga> geirha: when i press ctrl + R
[22:20] <tonygaga> geirha: propmt is still default aka user@pc:~$
[22:21] <geirha> tonygaga: Ok, do you get your prompt back if you hit Ctrl+c?
[22:21] <tonygaga> yes
[22:21] <geirha> then run  bind -p | grep '\\C-r'
[22:21] <CRCinAU> Greetings all - I'm trying to do a Xen install of Ubuntu (tried both 14.05 LTS & 14.10 - but I can't get the VFB to work so I can see what is going on....
[22:21] <tonygaga> "\C-x\C-r": re-read-init-file
[22:21] <tonygaga> "\e\C-r": revert-line
[22:21] <CRCinAU> I'm using the vmlinuz & initrd.gz in the xen directory of the download site.
[22:22] <CRCinAU> The same procedure works for Debian & CentOS... but I get no display on the Ubuntu installers... Any ideas?
[22:23] <geirha> tonygaga: ok, so readline doesn't have Ctrl+r bound at all, so maybe your terminal emulator is doing something weird.   Do you see ^R anywhere in the output of   stty -a   ?
[22:23] <tonygaga> rprnt = ^R
[22:23] <geirha> tonygaga: and have you modified any files named inputrc or similar lately
[22:23] <tonygaga> nope
[22:24] <tonygaga> geirha: only messed around with vim colors yesterday and it worked also yesterday
[22:24] <Jordan_U> CRCinAU: What is the exact path you downloaded these files from?
[22:25] <geirha> tonygaga: If you run:   bind '"\C-r": reverse-search-history'    does Ctrl+R start working?
[22:26] <tonygaga> geirha: i didn't have the balls to try that...but if you say so
[22:26] <tonygaga> geirha: thx man it works :)
[22:26] <CRCinAU> gimme a sec - I'll have to get there again - this was last night....
[22:26] <CRCinAU> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/xen/
[22:26] <tonygaga> geirha: but really. wtf? can you explain that?
[22:26] <sacarlson> CRCinAU: I thought they renamed some time back to initrd.lz
[22:26] <geirha> tonygaga: that is a default binding though. So question is, where does it get removed?  Has to be in .bashrc, .intpurc, /etc/bash.bashrc or /etc/inputrc
[22:27] <CRCinAU> sacarlson: I dunno - I can only go off whats in the directory :
[22:27] <CRCinAU> :\
[22:27] <CRCinAU> I'm not an ubuntu guy myself - but I'm offering the option of the install to peeps
[22:28] <geirha> tonygaga: I can't explain why that has happened based on the information you've given so far, no
[22:28] <CRCinAU> I renamed those files then use this as the Xen config: kernel          = "/root/ubuntu-14.05-lts-vmlinuz"
[22:28] <CRCinAU> ramdisk         = "/root/ubuntu-14.05-lts-initrd.gz"
[22:28] <CRCinAU> extra           = "debian-installer/exit/always_halt=true -- console=tty0"
[22:29] <CRCinAU> I get some output on the hvc0 console - which is strange
[22:29] <CRCinAU> but no installer menu
[22:30] <CRCinAU> tty0 == the VFB that I can use via Xen / VNC
[22:30] <dom__> hi
[22:30] <tonygaga> geirha: i just looked at all of them... nothing suspicious .. also date last modified is way back..
[22:31] <tonygaga> geirha: whatever... i'm just very glad it works again, and if it happens again i'll digg deeper wher it does get kicked out. thanks alot for your time
[22:32] <dom__> I got a problem when installing ubuntu (tried 14.04.1 and 14.10 snapshot 4 days ago not the final) on surface pro 3 at the grub install (I tried secure boot on/off, on efi partition, on a new efi partion ...), where can I get some info on the error because the error message is not verbose ?
[22:33] <tonygaga> geirha: welp it just worked for that session i had opened of course..
[22:33] <azizLIGHT> can i clone my ubuntu desktop hdd to a external nas and restore from the nas?
[22:33] <azizLIGHT> like a snapshot
[22:33] <CRCinAU> hmmm - if I pass: console=hvc0 then I get output onto the xen console - but nothing on tty0
[22:33] <geirha> tonygaga: Yes, because something is removing the binding every time you start an interactive bash shell
[22:34] <geirha> Until you figure it out, you can put the bind command at the end of .bashrc
[22:38] <tonygaga> http://pastebin.com/FFv8Ziry
[22:38] <CRCinAU> hmmmm
[22:38] <CRCinAU> [    0.000000] console [tty0] enabled
[22:38] <CRCinAU> [    0.000000] console [hvc0] enabled
[22:38] <tonygaga> the other files aren't modified since '13
[22:39] <plut0> mplayer is displaying video text in spanish instead of english. what am i doing wrong?
[22:40] <Webster`> I have knoppix on a bootable USB, what are the steps to attempt partition recovery?
[22:41] <tonygaga> Webster`: press J
[22:41] <tonygaga> uups plut0 press J
[22:41] <tonygaga> geirha: did you see my paste?
[22:42] <plut0> tonygaga: i don't think it's a subtitle
[22:42] <plut0> tonygaga: its in the video itself
[22:42] <OerHeks> Webster`, ext2/3/4 or fat32/ntfs ?
[22:42] <Webster`> OerHeks: ext4
[22:42] <tonygaga> plut0: oh
[22:43] <OerHeks> Webster`, testdisk, not sure if that is on a knoppix iso
[22:43] <geirha> tonygaga: ~/.fzf.bash  ?
[22:43] <Webster`> OerHeks: testdisk entails copying to another partition?
[22:43] <OerHeks> Webster`, do you have a hdd free for rescue?
[22:43] <OerHeks> Webster`, yes
[22:44] <Webster`> unfortunately I dont have a disk available for that
[22:44] <Webster`> I'm not sure, but I might have fubarred the inode table (whatever that is)
[22:44] <Webster`> currently running fsck.ext4
[22:44] <OerHeks> try testdisk, it should find folders/files rightaway ... or not at all
[22:45] <Webster`> OerHeks: I can mount the drive, it shows correct 'disk usage' but no files/folders
[22:45] <tonygaga> geirha: yea ... i think vi did change some stuff here
[22:45] <ratsarebig> Webster`: try disk chat
[22:45] <tonygaga> geirha: bind -m vi-command '"\C-r": "i\C-r"'
[22:46] <tonygaga> that's under #CTRL-R
[22:46] <geirha> tonygaga: Oh, are you using vi mode?
[22:46] <tonygaga> yep
[22:46] <geirha> tonygaga: that explains it
[22:47] <ratsarebig> geirha: Yo
[22:48] <geirha> ratsarebig: Stop that
[22:49] <tonygaga> this is what ctrl r exactly does
[22:49] <tonygaga> "\eddi$(HISTTIMEFORMAT= history | fzf +s +m -n2..,.. | sed \"s/ *[0-9]* *//\")\C-x\C-e\e$a\C-x\C-r"'
[22:50] <tonygaga> geirha: should i just change it with the standard reverse-i?
[22:50] <ratsarebig> Ubuntu is the easiest Linux distro for home use
[22:50] <CRCinAU> ratsarebig: I disagree - but hey ;)
[22:51] <geirha> tonygaga: I have no idea what fzf does, and I don't really care. It is clearly what is rebinding Cltr+r
[22:51] <CRCinAU> but whatever the case, Ubuntu have broken the Xen installer :\
[22:52] <ratsarebig> CRCinAU thinks android is greatest Linux in world
[22:52] <CRCinAU> ratsarebig: and its nice for you to tell me I'm a 'big black jackass' - but please don't pm me.... ;)
[22:53] <geirha> CRCinAU: Don't mind him, it's a troll
[22:53] <ratsarebig> Ubuntu just works
[22:53] <CRCinAU> so does Windows ;)
[22:54] <tonygaga> geirha: sry i didn't want to annoy you
[22:55] <CRCinAU> So - when I go to install Ubuntu 10.05 LTS to a Xen PV DomU, I get this in the kernel boot messages:
[22:55] <CRCinAU> [    0.000000] console [tty0] enabled
[22:55] <CRCinAU> [    0.000000] console [hvc0] enabled
[22:55] <CRCinAU> yet I get no output on tty0
[22:55] <geirha> tonygaga: I was talking about ratsarebig, he messaged me, and likely others, with foul language
[22:55] <Ben64> CRCinAU: there is no 10.05
[22:56] <CRCinAU> sorry, 14.05 ;)
[22:56] <ratsarebig> Try ctrl-alt f1 CRCinAU
[22:56] <Ben64> CRCinAU: no 14.05 either
[22:56] <CRCinAU> o_O
[22:56] <Jordan_U> CRCinAU: Do you get output via hvc0?
[22:56] <Ben64> 14.04 probably?
[22:56] <CRCinAU> ahh - I must have typo'ed the filenames ;)
[22:56] <Ben64> ok, was wondering
[22:57] <CRCinAU> I get output on hvc0 - but then even passing console=tty0 to the installer doesn't give output on tty0 - it just removes the output from hvc0
[22:57] <sacarlson> CRCinAU: ya it's posible your whole problem is some typo
[22:58] <tonygaga> geirha: ok.. i changed .fzf.bash and did source it but it still doesnt work.. do i have to initialize anything else? also this is what the files looks like: http://pastebin.com/vDqGxpx7
[22:59] <CRCinAU> and wow..... ratsarebig is the first person I've added to an ignore list on Freenode in ~5 years....
[23:01] <Jordan_U> ratsarebig: Please keep your comments here on topic, and please do not PM abusive messages to other users.
[23:01] <CRCinAU> ok - so I've renamed the files - and the Xen config..... (not that the filenames matter in any way) to use this:
[23:01] <geirha> tonygaga: Looks like you've changed the one inside the "else" block, but not the one inside the "then" block
[23:01] <CRCinAU> kernel          = "/root/ubuntu-14.04-lts-vmlinuz"
[23:01] <CRCinAU> ramdisk         = "/root/ubuntu-14.04-lts-initrd.gz"
[23:01] <CRCinAU> extra           = "debian-installer/exit/always_halt=true -- console=tty0"
[23:01] <tonygaga> geirha: oops didnt see the upper ctrl r
[23:01] <tonygaga> geirha: works like a charm now
[23:02] <tonygaga> geirha: yea you also found it :)
[23:02] <CRCinAU> the kernel boots, then I get no output anywhere after:
[23:02] <CRCinAU> [    1.389173] Freeing unused kernel memory: 692K (ffff880001b53000 - ffff880001c00000)
[23:02] <CRCinAU> [    1.406045] systemd-udevd[84]: starting version 204
[23:03] <Jordan_U> CRCinAU: Please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com for any output that's more than one line.
[23:04] <tonygaga> geirha: how can i thank you?
[23:05] <siwica> as I am running Linux but dont program in C, can anyone give me some good reading material on what "./configure && make && make install" actually does?
[23:05] <CRCinAU> well, I'll download the images again - just incase....
[23:05] <Jordan_U> siwica: To start, do you understand that you should rarely if ever install programs that way?
[23:05] <CRCinAU> siwica: they're magic scripts ;)
[23:05] <CRCinAU> tbh - they have nothing to do with C....
[23:06] <CRCinAU> but with the right setup - they perform magic.
[23:06] <tonygaga> siwica: you know what a compiler is?
[23:06] <geirha> tonygaga: paint me a diploma of suffience in tuxpaint ... or just say thank you, I don't know. You're welcome.
[23:06] <CRCinAU> I use make to build a whole heap of PDFs - including abort / resume support etc.... its nothing short of pure magic...
[23:07] <rypervenche> siwica: Check your private message.
[23:09] <tafa2>  anyone know of a good game/trivia channel?
[23:10] <bazhang> !alis | tafa2
[23:10] <tafa2> cool thanks
[23:12] <CRCinAU> hmmmm
[23:12] <CRCinAU> I wonder:
[23:12] <CRCinAU> [    1.394012] xenbus_probe_frontend: Device with no driver: device/vfb/0
[23:13] <CRCinAU> is it possible that Ubuntu don't ship support for the xen vfb in the Xen installer? o_O
[23:14] <CRCinAU> hahahhahahahaha
[23:14] <CRCinAU> If I use the Debian Wheezy kernel (vmlinuz) then pass it the Ubuntu initrd.gz, then it all works.
[23:14] <NeedHelp> Hi, all!
[23:14] <CRCinAU> hence the Ubuntu kernel config is broken ;)
[23:15] <NeedHelp> I need some help, is there someone to help me?
[23:15] <willwh> NeedHelp: what's up
[23:15] <NeedHelp> I've got suddenly black fonts on my desktop + terminal and I'm not able to lock my screen with the hotkey.
[23:16] <NeedHelp> I've tried updating and upgrading, nothing new.
[23:17] <CRCinAU> then I don't get any network drivers though....
[23:17] <CRCinAU> but meh.
[23:17] <willwh> NeedHelp: uh, you must have made some recent changes, if you have black fonts? (like a theme change?)
[23:17] <CRCinAU> probably due to the different kernel versions.....
[23:17] <willwh> or partial theme change?
[23:17] <NeedHelp> I did a theme change before, I had no problems.
[23:17] <willwh> no idea about your locking screen with a hotkey
[23:18] <tonygaga> geirha: http://imgur.com/MONITMS
[23:18] <NeedHelp> Let me try to change to standard theme.
[23:18] <willwh> well, this kind of thing usually does not just magically happen
[23:18] <sacarlson> CRCinAU: I think ubuntu has a package of a kernel that does support xen
[23:19] <sacarlson> CRCinAU: but it's not the default kernel
[23:19] <CRCinAU> sacarlson: this was supposed to be the Xen image from here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/xen/
[23:19] <after_r> Hello
[23:19] <narhen> hi
[23:19] <after_r> I have a script i wrote in php... when I call php -f myscript.php is just dumps the script and not executes it
[23:20] <after_r> with or without the <?php ?> tags around the code
[23:20] <after_r> what gives?
[23:20] <after_r> this has happened with me before
[23:20] <after_r> i had to use php4
[23:20] <EriC^^> maybe try without the -f ?
[23:20] <bekks> php4 - that must have been more than a decade ago.
[23:20] <after_r> nevermind
[23:20] <CRCinAU> as I'm not an ubuntu guy, wheres the best place to do bug reports?
[23:20] <after_r> i got it to work
[23:21] <bekks> !bug
[23:21] <after_r> idk even know
[23:21] <sacarlson> CRCinAU: I do remember long ago that netboot had something missing, but I'm not sure that is still the case
[23:21] <after_r> i hope i can install ubuntu on a macbookpro8,3
[23:21] <NeedHelp> (SWT:9052): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_closure_unref: assertion 'closure->ref_count > 0' failed
[23:21] <tonygaga> geirha: feel free to delete it ;)
[23:23] <NeedHelp> (SWT:9052): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.40.0/./gobject/gclosure.c:688: unable to remove uninstalled invalidation notifier: 0x7f49aa152e00 (0x7f49b450de50)
[23:23] <NeedHelp> what is that?
[23:24] <NeedHelp> someone can help?
[23:24] <NeedHelp> (SWT:9052): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.40.0/./gobject/gclosure.c:688: unable to remove uninstalled invalidation notifier: 0x7f49aa152e00 (0x7f49b450de50)
[23:25] <NeedHelp> nobody is online?
[23:25] <siwica> Jordan_U: sorry I was away for a sec. Why shouldn't I install programs that way?
[23:26] <Guest10416> Could anyone help me with twinview? I can't find the option in Nvidia-settings, and see no way to enable it.
[23:26] <WhiteCrane> how do i defrag ubuntu
[23:26] <after_r> I have a question...
[23:26] <bekks> WhiteCrane: You dont need to.
[23:26] <NeedHelp> (SWT:9052): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.40.0/./gobject/gclosure.c:688: unable to remove uninstalled invalidation notifier: 0x7f49aa152e00 (0x7f49b450de50)
[23:26] <WhiteCrane> how do i run scandisk?
[23:26] <siwica> tonygaga: I do know what a compiler is
[23:26] <EriC^^> WhiteCrane: fsck?
[23:26] <after_r> in the downloads page, there used to be a link for an ISO build for Macs .. but the current page doesnt' have that?
[23:26] <bubbasaures> WhiteCrane, you don't have to defragglinux.
[23:26] <bekks> WhiteCrane: For running scandisk, use Windows.
[23:26] <after_r> for a 64bit mac specifically
[23:27] <WhiteCrane> what is the equvilant of scandisk to linux?
[23:27] <WhiteCrane> mac os x has disk util
[23:27] <after_r> it said like (includes extra bits for macs)
[23:27] <EriC^^> WhiteCrane: fsck , i guess
[23:27] <willwh> fsck
[23:27] <bekks> WhiteCrane: badblocks is the equivalent of scandisk.
[23:27] <bekks> fsck is the equivalent of chkdsk
[23:27] <willwh> bekks would be correct
[23:27] <willwh> :P
[23:27] <willwh> o/
[23:28] <WhiteCrane> is jfs better than ext4?
[23:28] <rww> no
[23:28] <NeedHelp> everything is fucked up, I need some help
[23:28] <bekks> WhiteCrane: that depends on you personal opinion.
[23:29] <wafflej0ck> NeedHelp: family friendly channel watch the language
[23:29] <NeedHelp> at least I got corrected for my language!
[23:30] <after_r> I am looking at http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/ and I am unclear about what to get if I have a 2011 macbook pro 17" with a 64bit intel quad code i7..
[23:30] <cbjaxx> NeedHelp: What version are you running?
[23:30] <after_r> quad core *
[23:30] <bekks> NeedHelp: What did you expect? You did not even state your actual problem.
[23:30] <after_r> I should get the AMD64 iso right?
[23:30] <wafflej0ck> NeedHelp: yeah hard to find your problem in all the text above, would be easier if you write up a ubuntuforum post and link to it then you can include a screenshot and the full explanation
[23:30] <after_r> but the "PC (Intel x86)" states "as well as newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors." so ???
[23:30] <wafflej0ck> NeedHelp: will be easier to get help that way
[23:31] <bekks> after_r: you have to use the mac version, not the "PC (Intel x86)"
[23:31] <NeedHelp> Well, I see my desktop files with black fonts, also in terminal. I can't change icon themes, I can not lock my screen.
[23:31] <WhiteCrane> why cant i use reiserfs
[23:31] <after_r> bekks: so does "as well as newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors." refer to some non-laptop macs like the towers?
[23:32] <Jordan_U> siwica: Because applications installed by compiling from source aren't managed by the package manager, and in addition to being harder to install they're harder to keep track of and remove. Do you know how to use the package manager to install software?
[23:32] <bekks> WhiteCrane: Because it is discontinued.
[23:32] <NeedHelp> Can + the hotkeys for changing the brightness changing the volume doensn't work anymore.
[23:32] <cbjaxx> NeedHelp: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[23:32] <WhiteCrane> murderfs is gone?
[23:32] <bekks> after_r: No. It refers to the fact that they just use Intel processors.
[23:32] <bekks> after_r: They still are macs.
[23:32] <wafflej0ck> NeedHelp: what exact version are you using, can you not lock the screen with the panels/menus or just can't lock it using a keyboard shortcut?
[23:32] <NeedHelp> Linux lap 3.13.0-24-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Fri May 2 23:30:00 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:32] <NeedHelp> keyboard shortcut
[23:33] <after_r> hmm.. ok i dont get it it but whatev
[23:33] <rohan> is the latest version of nvidia in ubuntu 14.10 still 331?
[23:33] <bekks> after_r: Aple just changed the processors used - that doesnt convert a MAc to a PC magically.
[23:33] <siwica> Jordan_U: yes I know how to use it. But packages there tend to be outdated. The new Emacs 24.4 is not even in the official repos.
[23:34] <Jordan_U> !info emacs24 | siwica
[23:34] <after_r> bekks: I just thought that all Intet-based Macs have the 64 bit chip
[23:34] <after_r> Intel-based *
[23:34] <narhen> i'm having some problems with setting up a guest VM. I'm following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen . when I run 'xl create -c /etc/xen/ubuntu.cfg' I get this error: libxl: error: libxl_dom.c:35:libxl__domain_type: unable to get domain type for domid=5
[23:35] <narhen> Unable to attach console
[23:35] <siwica> this aint 24.4?!
[23:35] <Jordan_U> after_r: There are (older) 32 bit intel macs.
[23:35] <narhen> has anyone experienced the same problem? any suggestions on how to fix it?
[23:35] <Jordan_U> siwica: Indeed, I missed the sub version.
[23:35] <after_r> oh. well then "newer" should be "older" in as well as newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors.
[23:35] <after_r> but yeah I know
[23:35] <NeedHelp> Nobody knows a solution for this?
[23:35] <cbjaxx> NeedHelp: Ok so 14.04 try this link, sounds like compiz got corrupted when you were doing theme changes http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[23:35] <bekks> after_r: They do. That doesnt magically convert them into PCs.
[23:35] <after_r> NeedHelp: what?
[23:36] <zava> quick question. Are noobs frowned upon by the linux community?
[23:36] <Ben64> no
[23:36] <zava> some guy in the git channel creeped me out
[23:37] <siwica> Jordan_U: so you dont see the need to compile from source?!
[23:37] <after_r> NeedHelp: try running this: xcalib -i -a
[23:37] <Jordan_U> siwica: What features were added between 24.3 and 24.4 that you need?
[23:38] <NeedHelp> I did run it
[23:38] <after_r> did it invert your screen?
[23:38] <NeedHelp> Didn't got response or something from the terminal.
[23:38] <NeedHelp> Nothing has changed.
[23:39] <zacarias1> Hi. Do you know if there are any i386 packages available for Opera? I can't find other than the amd64 package
[23:39] <siwica> Jordan_U: actually this doesnt matter for my question, but there are quite a few like an integrated webbrowser "eww"
[23:39] <zacarias1> Sorry, I mean Beta packages
[23:40] <zacarias1> Do you know if there are any i386 BETA packages available for Opera? I can't find other than the amd64 package
[23:40] <WhiteCrane> FUCK UBUNTU
[23:40] <WhiteCrane> WINDOWS 8.1 IS BETTER
[23:40] <Jordan_U> siwica: Then ideally you would create an updated source package and build a proper .deb from that, but yes that is more work than just "./configure && make && sudo make install".
[23:40] <NeedHelp> unity-reset didn't work either.
[23:41] <zacarias1> Do you know if there are any i386 BETA packages available for Opera? I can't find other than the amd64 package
[23:41] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: setsid unity
[23:41] <NeedHelp> I downloaded the .deb file then did unity-reset, it did reset but nothing has changed.
[23:41] <NeedHelp> @EriC still nothing has changed
[23:42] <NeedHelp> Should I paste this log somewhere?
[23:42] <hide_> hi
[23:43] <siwica> Jordan_U: I was told to run "sudo checkinstall" instead of "sudo make install" for this purpose?!
[23:43] <OerHeks> zacarias1, Opera 24 Developer for Linux (64bit deb only for now!)
[23:44] <Jordan_U> siwica: That is slightly better than "sudo make install", as it will create a package which can be installed and removed with the package manager, but still less ideal than creating a proper source package.
[23:45] <Guest10416> Is there some way to enable twinview? It's not a visible option in nvidia-settings
[23:45] <siwica> Jordan_U: is there some reading on how to do this then?
[23:45] <EriC^^> NeedHelp: maybe try to reinstall ubuntu-desktop ?
[23:45] <EriC^^> ( sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop )
[23:45] <NeedHelp> will I lose any data?
[23:46] <EriC^^> no, i don't think so
[23:46] <cbjaxx> NeedHelp: pasted this earlier unity-reset does not work in 13.04-10, or 14.04 NeedHelp: Ok so 14.04 try this link, sounds like compiz got corrupted when you were doing theme changes http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[23:46] <EriC^^> ( maybe configs, not sure about that )
[23:50] <NeedHelp> it looks like there is no solution for this problem
[23:50] <cbjaxx> did you see my post?
[23:52] <Jordan_U> siwica: Yes, but given how complicated it is: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/update.en.html I suspect that you'll just want to use checkinstall, or simply wait for someone to package the newest emacs (which I expect won't take long).
[23:52] <NeedHelp> cbjaxx you just copied/pasted the poste from before, I've seen that link already unity-reset didn't work.
[23:53] <cbjaxx> I said unity-reset does not work .. it says that in the first line
[23:54] <NeedHelp> Well, what should I do then?
[23:54] <cbjaxx> there is a download in the link to walk you through the process
[23:55] <NeedHelp> I did that already.
[23:55] <NeedHelp> It is not working unfortunately.
[23:56] <cbjaxx> so when you run apt-cache quality dconf what does it tell you?
[23:56] <cbjaxx> err policy not quality
[23:57] <NeedHelp> dconf:   Installed: (none)   Candidate: (none)   Version table:
[23:57] <cbjaxx> so do apt-get install dconf
[23:57] <cbjaxx> wil need sudo
[23:57] <cbjaxx> will pm you will be easier and less chatty
[23:58] <NeedHelp> ok


[00:25] <mmikowski> arraybolt3[m]: We will *definitely* want to test for Kfocus devices. All M2 and XE generations have Thunderbolt 3 or 4. We can test for eGPU and display devices. Although, as Erich has said - and I agree - updating TB at this time of the lifecycle of the kernel seems awfully risky. We hadn't seen or heard any complaints up to this time, but we have seen kernel updates break USB and bluetooth before. We'd rather not go through
[00:25] <mmikowski>  that again (although we now meta-package kernels to avoid breaking kernels).
[00:28] <arraybolt3[m]> mmikowski: Nice. Makes sense.
[00:32] <mmikowski> arraybolt3[m]: Thanks. We meta-package kernels and nv libs to avoid breakage on our hardware but still allow us to use upstream packages. The only time a kernel gets held back is if it breaks the hardware smoke test.  NV libs are similar and are correlated with matching CUDA libs for ML.
[00:32] <arraybolt3[m]> So basically random hardware flunk-outs with a kernel update won't happen on a Focus?
[00:33] <arraybolt3[m]> That sounds very good. Hmm, that makes my choice of upgrade harder - Framework is cheaper and more powerful, but Focus is more dependable. Hmm... hard decisions!
[00:50] <mmikowski> arraybolt3[m]: right. We test the kernels and drivers for the hardware. Never say never, but we test against it for all systems we've ever sold.
[03:54] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: *ahem* bug 1987934
[03:55] <Eickmeyer[m]> Also working on another bug with mlt missing a module altogether. Basically breaking some kdenlive functionality.
[05:20] <RikMills> Eickmeyer[m]: you going to upload with that recommends?
[05:22] <Eickmeyer[m]> That's my intention, first thing in the morning.  It's 10:21pm here.
[05:22] <RikMills> okay
[12:17] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[17:59] <RikMills> Eickmeyer[m]: cheers for the fix. any luck with mlt?
[18:00] <RikMills> I have a similar issue with haruna https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1017593
[18:00] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: Well, I'm having trouble with the debian maintainer understanding that he grabbed the wrong tarball. The tarball is missing a bunch of git submodules.
[18:01] <Eickmeyer[m]> The upstream developers of mlt didn't even officially release mlt 7.8.0 until July 3rd, despite tagging on June 22nd. Basically, he jumped the gun.
[18:02] <Eickmeyer[m]> Oh, big yikes.
[18:03] <RikMills> with many KDE things, if you take the tarball from a git tag, then you don't have translations. As they are kept in svn and rolled into release tars via release scripts
[18:04] <Eickmeyer[m]> Yeah. There's a lot of audio plugins that are like that with git submodules.
[18:05] <Eickmeyer[m]> I even know of one developer that's appalled that he even has to be bothered to release a tarball. 🙄
[18:06] <RikMills> properly release tars can also be signed with checking via uscan. grabbing the wrong ones rules that out
[18:07] <Eickmeyer[m]> Yeah.
[18:08] <Eickmeyer[m]> So, the struggle right now is proper functionality in kdenlive 22.08 with that mlt module or things appearing broken to the average user. I'd rather have the former.
[18:08] <RikMills> agreed
[18:09] <RikMills> we can sort it for kinetic with or without cooperation. just going forward it needs to be sorted
[18:11] <Eickmeyer[m]> The maintainer in this case mentioned he didn't want to introduce an epoch, I wrote back that is understandable, but changing tarballs doesn't need an epoch, just a +repack or something like that in the suffix of the tarball.
[18:12] <RikMills> yes, there are plenty of example in the archive of that being done
[18:12] <Eickmeyer[m]> I'd even go for something like +actual
[18:12] <RikMills> could be
[18:13] <Eickmeyer[m]> But either way, the closer it gets to beta freeze, the less likely I am to let it slide.
[20:19] <valorie> stick to your guns, Eickmeyer[m]! Your email was extremely reasonable
[20:21] <Eickmeyer[m]> Thanks, valorie . So far, Gianfranco has good advice, but the maintainer seemed to... overreact? I mean, no need to bump an epoch, just give a suffix and call it good!
[20:21] <valorie> maintainer could be embarrassed
[20:21] <Eickmeyer[m]> True.
[20:22] <valorie> gosh, we all make mistakes
[20:22] <valorie> chill & fix!
[20:22] <Eickmeyer[m]> Well, yeah, but own your mistake, learn from it, and fix it. No need to assume the worst.
[20:23] <Eickmeyer[m]> So far, nothing is broken, nobody's cat has died. It just pops up a scary warning.
[20:24] <valorie> yep
[23:06] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: Looks like haruna got accepted into unstable! \o/


[02:30] <batcastle> Hello!
[02:33] <amolith> batcastle: \o/
[02:52] <batcastle> So, I was wanting to get on here and let you guys know that I have created a derivative of Xubuntu. I followed the instructions on your website about what to remove. I was wanting to see if there was some way I can contribute upstream or something like that.
[02:56] <batcastle> If you want to see what I have created, it's called Drauger OS. You can find it at https://draugeros.ml and on Sourceforge at https://sourceforge.net/projects/drauger-os


[17:01] <seattlegaucho> valorie: 2.4.0 is the latest amarok ... right?
[17:02] <seattlegaucho> I'm really pleased to see that some of the old tools that disappeared for while came back :)
[19:01] <valorie> 2.4.0 is the last release
[19:04] <valorie> of course git is the latest


[09:46] <vigo> hi all!
[09:46] <vigo>  someone having pkcon errors in unity8 on laptop?
[09:47] <vigo> could the last packagekit update on 29th have something to do with it?
[10:11] <Saviq> vigo, can you pastebin your error please?
[10:12] <vigo> Saviq, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/packagekit/+bug/1619593
[17:32] <dandrader> tedg, so ubuntu-app-launch still doesn't fully support multipple app instances, right?
[17:51] <tedg> dandrader: Well, it does for legacy apps, but not for everything.
[17:57] <dandrader> tedg, signals for instance-based started, stopped etc are commended out with a TODO
[17:57] <dandrader> *commented
[18:06] <dandrader> tedg, so currently there's no way to get notified when a second instance shows up
[18:10] <tedg> dandrader: I think you'll actually just get the startup signal twice, you just won't be able to distinguish between them.
[18:11] <tedg> dandrader: Only the C API signals work today, all the C++ ones are TODO.
[18:11] <dandrader> tedg, any ETA?
[18:11] <dandrader> for the instance-based c++ signals?
[18:12] <tedg> dandrader: Nothing specific, I'm not sure if it'll get prioritized before or after systemd.
[18:12] <dandrader> tedg, ok. sounds like long term :)


[18:45] <_raven> hi
[18:45] <_raven> ardour2 + mackie controller - ardour sends but mackie does not send any commands to ardour. any ideas?
[18:52] <ailo> _raven: You could try asking at #ardour
[18:52] <ailo> A bigger chance someone has controllers on that channels
[18:53] <ailo> I see you did just now :)