[18:11] <eRespond> Pici,  ubuntu
[18:11] <eRespond> !netselect { MonkeyDust
[18:11] <intruses> Where to find linpopup for Ubuntu Natty ? I just find the source archive :(
[18:11] <Pici> eRespond: Then you cannot and should not use repositories for Debian on Ubuntu.
[18:12] <Nfisher> llutz, hi ! uhm.. i dont quite get it yet.. so on the destination amchine i have to issue " ssh -R 19999:localhost:22 user@sourcehost"?
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> intruses  what's linpopup?
[18:12] <eRespond> PIci so what i can do for make or can download mirror site
[18:12] <eRespond> with command line ?
[18:12] <intruses> MonkeyDust: Winpopup for Linux, is it a mistake ?
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> intruses  and what does it do?
[18:12] <Pici> eRespond: You would need to do that manually.
[18:13] <intruses> MonkeyDust: Display samba message (sent by smbclient -L)
[18:13] <eRespond> Pici, manually what you mean
[18:13] <llutz> Nfisher: user@yourhost
[18:13] <Pici> eRespond: By editing /etc/apt/sources.list and by looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[18:15] <llutz> Nfisher: HE (the one you want but cannot connect to) issues:       ssh -R 19999:localhost:22<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:15] <pippo> ciao
[18:15] <llutz> Nfisher: then YOU type: ssh -p 19999 localhost
[18:17] <Nfisher> llutz, thx we try!
[18:17] <MrKeuner> what is utmp group fro?
[18:17] <MrKeuner> what is utmp group for?
[18:18] <Nfisher> llutz, THX it works :D
[18:18] <eRespond> Pici, what you program recomend for me for mirror download list
[18:18] <pangolin> MrKeuner: The utmp file allows one to discover information about who is currently using the system
[18:18] <pangolin> man utmp 5
[18:18] <Guest16805>  /budus macro xdcc d 52
[18:18] <llutz> Nfisher: sure it does :)
[18:18] <eRespond> Pici, what you program recomend for me for mirror download mirror list i mean
[18:18] <MrKeuner> pangolin, can I safely add my users to utmp group?
[18:19] <Skynights> hi
[18:19] <pangolin> MrKeuner: I don't know.
[18:19] <eRespond> Pici, how i can donwload http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/
[18:19] <Skynights> i need help
[18:20] <pangolin> MrKeuner: but if the user wasn't added to that group on creation I wouldn't.
[18:20] <Guest16805>  http://xdcc_SEARCH_X1326910746
[18:20] <Pici> eRespond: You cannot use Debian repositories in Ubuntu.
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> eRespond  what you want to do is not possible
[18:21] <eRespond> Pici, yes i know. but did you can recomend for me what application ubuntu support for download mirror site
[18:22] <Pici> eRespond: I can't.  Maybe someone else can help you.
[18:23] <Scunizi> Anyone else wait for what feels like an eternity to get libreoffice to show you a dialogue box after clicking "Save As"?  Is there a fix?
[18:25] <eRespond> Pici http://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/mirror/list.html
[18:26] <aelingil> I have a computer that updated from 11.04 to 11.10 they did not back anything up and it crashed after 11.10 was installed. They recovered the system however now they cannot find anything in the Var/www folder and now asking me to find the files for them. Is there any simple way to find these lost files?
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> aelingil  for a start, type locate index.htm
[18:30] <aelingil> MonkeyDust, from terminal?
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> aelingil  yes
[18:30] <aelingil> MonkeyDust, good lord.. maybe i should have |less'd that...
[18:30] <pippo> CIAO
[18:30] <aelingil> MonkeyDust, k, now what?
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> aelingil  ctrl-c to stop it
[18:31] <aelingil> MonkeyDust, it finished already.
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> aelingil  see if you find what you're looking for
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> in that list
[18:32] <aelingil> MonkeyDust,  the files or the folder?
[18:32] <Nfisher> llutz, got to bother u one more time :].. uhm i im now connected via ssh to his machine.. now i would like to issue a program such as cheese but open the window on my local machine, how can i do that?
[18:32] <javier_> Hi! I'm trying to create a .bat file to execute a java app. In the bat text, I need to specify the route to java. Where is java in my /??? thanks!
[18:32] <ses1984> hi, i'm trying to make an ISO from a CD using dd, but I keep getting "Input/output error" on /dev/sr0, I think that's where the CD is,
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> aelingil  if you find the file, it may lead you to the folder
[18:33] <llutz> Nfisher: needs ssh -X   (X-forwarding)
[18:33] <Nfisher> llutz, oh ok
[18:33] <ses1984> but it's not mounted in /etc/mtab, evne though I can browse it. in my file browser it looks like cdda://sr0
[18:33] <aelingil> MonkeyDust, Got'cha i will look through this and see if i can find any of his files. Thank you.
[18:33] <ses1984> i tried to unmount it becuase i thought that might be the problem, but umount says it's not mounted, either,
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> aelingil  if you remember any other filename, you can 'locate' that, too
[18:34] <aelingil> MonkeyDust, He is out to lunch at the moment, i was trying to find the whole folder. I think it was replaced after his "restore"
[18:34]  * specialpow ,
[18:34]  * specialpow !
[18:35] <FloodBot1> specialpow: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:35]  * specialpow uke47*ik=x uke47*ikO
[18:35] <specialpow> <-
[18:36]  * specialpow M$49├É9┬Ą-6┬ź┬Ą
[18:36] <llutz> ses1984: you cannot make an iso of an audio-cd, it doesn't contain an iso-filesystem. use cdrdao
[18:38] <cowfish> can anybody help me with a routing issue?
[18:38] <aelingil> MonkeyDust, No luck.. file is not on this hard-drive..
[18:39] <specialpow> high win
[18:39] <specialpow> dj spooky
[18:39] <specialpow> uke47*=x M$49├É9┬Ą-6┬ź┬Ą
[18:39] <llutz> specialpow: do you have any ubuntu-relate question or do you want just to spam?
[18:40] <skypce> hi guys
[18:40] <skypce> how can i edit a squashfs file?
[18:41] <llutz> skypce: "unsquash foo.img" unpacks it
[18:41] <llutz> skypce: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SquashFS-HOWTO/mksqoverview.html
[18:41] <skypce> thank you llutz
[18:42] <specialpow> <-uk ?-M$49├É9┬Ą-6┬ź┬Ą
[18:42] <skypce> llutz, and later i need recompress squash?
[18:43] <llutz> skypce: yes, thats when mksquashfs comes in
[18:43] <skypce> thank you again
[18:45] <ses1984> can anyone help me make an iso from a cd?
[18:46] <llutz> ses1984: audio-cd?
[18:46] <ses1984> no
[18:46] <llutz> ses1984: cat /dev/sr0 >foo.img
[18:46] <ses1984> i tried to dd if=/dev/sr0 of=foo but i got an error
[18:47] <ses1984> cat gave me an input/output error
[18:47] <ses1984> from cat: "cat: /dev/sr0: Input/output error"
[18:47] <ses1984> from dd: "dd: reading `/dev/sr0': Input/output error"
[18:48] <ses1984> i can read the disc just fine through nautilus, in the address bar it says cdda://sr0/, and it's not listed as mounted in /etc/mtab
[18:48] <llutz> ses1984: broken drive? broken cd? "copyprotected cd"?
[18:48] <llutz> ses1984:  cdda://sr0/   IS an audio-cd
[18:48] <ses1984> i dont remember putting copy protection when i burned it
[18:48] <llutz> ses1984: compact-disc-digital-audio = cdda
[18:48] <ses1984> it has audio on it but also data afterwards, i want to get a complete exact copy
[18:48] <ses1984> i believe that's called redbook format?
[18:50] <ses1984> for the process of making an exact iso, it shouldn't matter what format the disc is, i think..i just want an exact copy regardless of what's on there
[18:50] <llutz> ses1984: 1st you have to rip the audio part, then get the data-part
[18:50] <llutz> ses1984: you cannot make an iso of an audio-cd, it doesn't contain an pc-readable-filesystem. use cdrdao
[18:50] <ses1984> i'll try that
[18:50] <cowfish> can anyone help me with routing?
[18:52] <llutz> ses1984: try: cdrdao read-cd --read-raw --datafile foo.bin --device /dev/sr0 foo.toc
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> cowfish  shoot
[18:56] <cowfish> basically i need to tunnel the traffic from a xbox through a vpn, but the xbox can't do this on its own. so i set up a simple server with 2 nics to connect to vpn and then i have the xbox plugged into that but it doesn't connect.  does this make any sense?
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> cowfish  how is it ubuntu related?
[18:56] <cowfish> the servers running ubuntu :p
[18:57] <NeverHere> nice cowfish ^^
[18:57] <cowfish> i guess pretty much what I'm wondering is there a way to route the traffic from say eth1 to tun0?
[18:58] <NeverHere> <.<
[19:00] <NeverHere> i have a laptop running ubuntu 11.10, am trying to get my eggdrop shellscript to run on there ( i am fed up with unix :x) my script is basically the same. problem is i need to get it to change into another dir and start a eggdrop bot :/ anyone know how to make a shell script cd into another director?
[19:01] <NeverHere> *directory
[19:03] <cowfish> idk much about egg drop but can you just use cd?
[19:03] <Pnoexz> hey, having partitions problems with fdisk. http://pastebin.com/S8Z0qaJu Why is the 3rd partition marked with + on the blocks column? could this cause for the system not to work, and force busybox shell on start up?
[19:03] <NeverHere> well the eggdrop is not important
[19:04] <cowfish> hmm well idk the only way i know is cd
[19:04] <NeverHere> idk if a shellscript will cd :s
[19:04]  * NeverHere tries
[19:04] <Pici> NeverHere: You may want to check out the topic in #bash as well as the folks there for shell scripting help.
[19:05] <NeverHere> you sent me to ##unix before and no one was there :s
[19:05] <Pici> NeverHere: I'm in #bash right now
[19:06] <NeverHere> :P
[19:07] <mneptok> NeverHere: why not use the entire directory path when calling the executable?
[19:07] <mneptok> NeverHere: IOW, why cd?
[19:07] <NeverHere> well the znc and eddgrop is in two different dir
[19:08] <_cb> Any tricks to keep the unity app bar from popping up every time the cursor is on the left hand side of the screen?
[19:08] <mneptok> NeverHere: oh, so it's not an issue with eggdrop configs. it's your script that runs multiple things.
[19:10] <Milesg> Is it possible to install vm tools on ubuntu server?
[19:11] <vBm> when built in remote desktop in ubuntu 11.10 doesn't work ... and teamviewer is too slow ... to what should i reffer ? (i'm trying to control 11.10 from within windows 7)
[19:12] <Milesg> VBM ssh?
[19:12] <rypervenche> vBm: I personally use x11vnc
[19:13] <rypervenche> vBm: As far as the client on Windows, I don't know what you could use. I use Remmina for Linux.
[19:13] <vBm> Milesg, haven't tried it ... do you have a link to some wiki page for it or should i just google :)
[19:13] <Milesg> Err, Well ssh will only give you command line, not the desktop.
[19:14] <vBm> rypervenche, i used to use TightVNC while i had ubuntu 10.10 ... but now after update i can't get in at all
[19:14] <vBm> Milesg, oh ... then i'm already using that way of controling :D
[19:14] <rypervenche> vBm: Are you doing this over LAN or over the Internet?
[19:14] <Milesg> ssh is used a lot in ubuntu server. since its commandline only.
[19:15] <vBm> rypervenche, over LAN ofc ... need to control pc that's in the attic
[19:19] <vBm> rypervenche, x11vnc looks a bit 'poor' in quality if i dare to say ... any way to show desktop as is ?
[19:19] <Milesg> Well, what do you want quality or speed.
[19:20] <vBm> Milesg, some sort of balance i guess, before on 10.10 using built in desk sharing option i had that :x
[19:21] <perlsyntax> hi
[19:21] <Milesg> teamviewer should be fine for you unless you have crappy bandwidth
[19:22] <vBm> Milesg, i'm using it over LAN so it's a bit of overkill, no ? (to use internet connection to control pc in lan)
[19:23] <mithrop> hi here. I have a little problem with my Plymouth : sometimes at the shutdown, plymouth it is not displayed, or only the loading bar is displayed and at the startup I see a black screen for a long time then plymouth flash up for 2 seconds only. Somebody have an idea ?
[19:24] <perlsyntax> Is the Dell Wireless 1502 supported by linux?
[19:24] <perlsyntax> i not sure if it is or not.
[19:24] <rypervenche> vBm: Just type "x11vnc -localhost -forever -display :0" without the quotes
[19:25] <Milesg> perlsyntax, install ubuntu and find out.
[19:25] <rypervenche> vBm: Then you can use any client to access it using port 5900
[19:25] <perlsyntax> i was thinking of buy the laptop but i not sure about the wireless card ok?
[19:25] <rypervenche> vBm: Actually, get rid of the -localhost
[19:26] <perlsyntax> Ok Milesg
[19:27] <perlsyntax> anyone have that wireless card?
[19:27] <Milesg> dell wireless 1502 WLAN Half mini-card? there is a linux driver for it. Try google.
[19:28] <xiambax> ndiswrapper works aswell
[19:28] <acer_aspire8930> hi guys, I have set up an LTSP network and most of my old computers I use as thin clients connect using PXE boot with no problem, but I have a couple of machines that only give the option to boot from just LAN, but when I start them up they go straight to CDROM or Hard disk, the BIOS is set to boot off LAN first.  Can anyone help me out here, the motherboards are Gigabyte and should ok to use as thin clients
[19:28] <perlsyntax> sound like no one knows in here.
[19:28] <Milesg> acer_aspire8930: update bios?
[19:29] <xiambax> acer_aspire8930: Have you tried updating the bios? Tested other cables? checked cables? etc?
[19:29] <Milesg> perlsyntax: Milesg> dell wireless 1502 WLAN Half mini-card? there is a linux driver for it. Try google.
[19:29] <Milesg> oh god, he left. :|
[19:29] <vBm> rypervenche, thank you very much, that works the way i need ... any way to start it up upon reboot ... so i don't need to type it everytime ?
[19:30] <acer_aspire8930> Not checked for bios updates, I know the cables work fine, I'll give that a shot, but if the new bios updates do not support PXE boot, is there another way with out purchasing something that does?
[19:30] <xiambax> Yes. You can use a distro to force pxe boot.
[19:31] <acer_aspire8930> oh great please tell :)
[19:33] <fijal> hi
[19:33] <acer_aspire8930> would I have to assign an IP to Mac addr of the NIC? rather than allow the thin client to use DHCP?
[19:33] <fijal> I'm trying to upgrade to oneiric and I get
[19:33] <fijal> E: pycompile:240: Requested versions are not installed
[19:33] <fijal> anyone ever seen that?
[19:33] <xiambax> acer_aspire8930: http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/PXELINUX and http://etherboot.org/wiki/index.php
[19:33] <rypervenche> vBm: Make a script for it, then put the script in your startup programs
[19:34] <acer_aspire8930> thanks for your help xiambax
[19:34] <natschil> Hello. I have this really annoying "feature" of both evolution and ubuntu one that they both assume they know when they are connected to the internet only if network-manager says so. Is there some way I can change this? (I use wvdial to connect to the internet)
[19:39] <xiambax> natschil, theres probably a boolen value you can edit to do this
[19:41] <natschil> xiambax: where?
[19:41] <natschil> xiambax: i'm guessing gconf....
[19:41] <xiambax> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[19:41] <javier_> Hi. I need to find in my files in / the file that executes java, cause I'm creating a .bat to execute a program based in java. Where is such file? (guess is .jar) Thanks!
[19:42] <ubluntu> you don't use .bat on linux
[19:42] <Zyrex> hey guys, i need help with a crashing jdk on ubuntu 10.04lts
[19:42] <Milesg> Your creating a .bat in linux?
[19:42] <ubluntu> you need to learn how to make a bash .sh script
[19:42] <llutz> extensions say nothing, name it however you like
[19:43] <ubluntu> well you don't name a bash script .bat anyway
[19:43] <ubluntu> idc who you are
[19:43] <Zyrex> can any1 here help with a jdk problem?
[19:44] <revan12_> did you know that the microsoft xchat client crashes if you put ^├é├Ŗ├Ä├ö├ø├ó├¬├«├┤├╗─ł─ē─£─Ø─ż─ź─┤─Ą┼£┼Ø┼┤┼Ą┼Č┼Ę╦å╠é╠ŁßĘŹßĖÆßĖōßĖśßĖÖßĖ╝ßĖĮß╣Ŗß╣ŗß╣░ß╣▒ß╣Čß╣Ęß║Éß║æß║żß║źß║”ß║¦ß║©ß║®ß║¬ß║½ß║¼ß║Łß║Šß║┐ß╗Ćß╗üß╗éß╗āß╗äß╗ģß╗åß╗ćß╗Éß╗æß╗Æß╗ōß╗öß╗Ģß╗¢ß╗Śß╗śß╗ÖŌ©ŻŌ©ČŌ®»Ļ×ł’╝Š¾Āü× into the chan?
[19:44] <ubluntu> lol
[19:44] <javier_> I mean, I need the route to java executable file
[19:44] <ubluntu> !ops > revan12_
[19:44] <llutz> javier_: "which java"
[19:44] <ubluntu> arg
[19:44] <ubluntu> someone ban the exploit kid
[19:44] <llutz> javier_: that is a command
[19:46] <neph> hello
[19:46] <WarDekar> hey so I'm setting up a new Linode server, never used Linode before, anyway it's Ubuntu 10.04 and I'm trying to get mysql running... I do "service mysql start" it says it's running
[19:46] <WarDekar> but when I do "ps aux | mysqld" nothing shows up
[19:46] <WarDekar> any ideas?
[19:46] <llutz> WarDekar: missing grep
[19:47] <adom> ^
[19:47] <WarDekar> llutz: right sorry, obv i have grep in there :)
[19:47] <WarDekar> just didn't type it in chat for some reason
[19:47] <WarDekar> it's not starting for some reason even though it claims it has
[19:47] <mneptok> WarDekar: ps aux | grep sql
[19:49] <WarDekar> it's alright i'm an idiot... i copied a my.cnf file and forgot to change the bind-address
[19:49] <WarDekar> duh
[19:49] <WarDekar> so it was stalling on trying to start because of that
[19:49] <d3eniz> erhm... anyone with some ftp experience? I'v got a dynamic dns running and a ftp server client on my comp. When im connecting to my local ip i get the login screen and enters the password and username correctly and can login. When i connect via my ddns i get the login screen of the ftp but gets 425 Failed to establish connection afterwards :S
[19:50] <auronandace> !yay | WarDekar
[19:50] <mang0> haha, that bot is awesome
[19:50] <mang0> <3 ubottu
[19:53] <flintwingel> d3eniz: is your ddns connection going through a firewall?
[19:54] <Muradisdan> sa
[19:54] <CharminTheMoose> I'm having a weird problem with udev and booting an ubuntu livecd. initrd fills /dev with nodes, then moves it over to /dev, but sometime during the rest of the bootup sequence, those get mounted over by another udev FS. Why's this happening?
[19:54] <javier_> llutz: I'm not sure actually, but java files are somewhere between files in /. I need the one executable. I have openJDK java6 Policy tools
[19:54] <d3eniz> i thought of that aswell and disabled my router firewall
[19:54] <CharminTheMoose> I'm having a weird problem with udev and booting an ubuntu livecd. initrd fills /dev with nodes, then moves it over to /dev, but sometime during the rest of the bootup sequence, those get mounted over by another udev FS. Why's this happening?
[19:54] <CharminTheMoose> Oops
[19:54] <llutz> javier_: find ./ -type f -iname \*.jar
[19:54] <CharminTheMoose> *moves it over to /dev on the real root
[19:55] <flintwingel> d3eniz: do you apprecaite how complex the ftp protocol is (i.e. a right pain to get working through a firewall)
[19:56] <Jimu> I'd like a relatively normal install on my USB - currently I've got the Universal USB Installer of U11.10, but I read this might use /tmp on the USB rather than the system RAM?
[19:56] <javier_> llutz: you mean I should search for that command? (./ -type f -iname \*.jar)
[19:56] <flintwingel> d3eniz: the initial connection is made out from the client to a "well known port". under normal circumstances the server will then make a connection back to the client on a random port number
[19:56] <llutz> javier_: aeh, you are trying to find your .jar-files or did i get you wrong?
[19:57] <flintwingel> d3eniz: have you tried PASSIVE?
[19:57] <d3eniz> no
[19:58] <flintwingel> with PASSIVE the second connection goes from the client to the server rather than the other way round
[19:58] <d3eniz> okey?
[19:59] <kikibo> anybody use myth tv?
[19:59] <javier_> llutz: I think you got me wrong. In windows, you can create a .bat file to execute a java file. That .bat file is a text with: "direction of java:programfiles/java/... and more things". I want to create the same tipe of file in Ubuntu. So, in the first part, I need to specify where to find java.
[19:59] <d3eniz> flintwingel: so how do i make it passive?
[19:59] <javier_> llutz: sorry, it's a bit difficult to explain
[20:00] <llutz> javier_: java should be in your path, type "which java" to get the path
[20:00] <vBm> one more question ... i keep loosing amsn icon from taskbar in ubuntu 11.10 (using gnome fallback) ... any way to bring it back (amsn is in background all the time)
[20:00] <flintwingel> d3eniz: depends on the client.... if you're using a text mode client just try typing "passive"
[20:01] <llutz> javier_: then just add into your script "/usr/bin/java -jar  /path/to/file-to-start.jar"
[20:01] <javier_> llutz: what I mean, in windows I have c:/Program Files (x86)/Java/jre6/bin/java.exe
[20:01] <javier_> llutz: I need the equivalent in my ubuntu machine
[20:01] <llutz> javier_: type "which java"
[20:01] <flintwingel> d3eniz: with graphical clients it's usually an option (tick box) associated with the connection
[20:01] <llutz> into a terminal javier_
[20:01] <d3eniz> flintwingel: using vsftpd
[20:02] <rcmaehl> I need help. I am coding a secure bridge, so to speak, that will allow Wine programs to execute commands in the linux terminal as well as move windows and such in the Linux enviroment. This is an attempt to attract more users such as program developers to Linux as they will not have to change their programming language. However, I need a few recommendations on packages that can be run from a terminal command and cause a GUI based action (such as a wind
[20:02] <rcmaehl> ow movement).
[20:02] <javier_> llutz: /usr/bin/java
[20:02] <javier_> llutz: I guess that's it :)
[20:02] <llutz> javier_: that it is
[20:02] <flintwingel> d3eniz: vsftpd is the server.. it will accept the PASSIVE option but it's the client end that sets it.
[20:02] <d3eniz> oh
[20:03] <llutz> javier_: since it is inside your $PATH, you don't need to write "/usr/bin/java" just "java" does
[20:03] <d3eniz> flintwingel: im using the browser atm but got filezilla installed aswell
[20:04] <flintwingel> d3eniz: it's been a while since I used filezilla but you should find an option for passive connection somewhere is the connection setup
[20:04] <rcmaehl> I already have zenity for message boxes
[20:05] <flintwingel> d3eniz: vsftpd has the option to strictly limit the port numbers it will use to make an ACTIVE connection. The other option would be to restrict the port range from vsftpd and open all those ports on your firewall
[20:06] <javier_> llutz: Thanks, but it doesn't work. In windows that would be the way, but in ubuntu something may be different. It would be something like "/usr/bin/java -mx3500 -jar jModelTest.jar" what I want, but I don't get any answer here, it doesn't execute the program
[20:06] <d3eniz> flintwingel: what port range is a good range to restrict / open?
[20:07] <p1l0t> Can one use cat on the cli to get just the last line or last page of a file (like an error log)?
[20:07] <llutz> javier_: "/usr/bin/java -mx3500 -jar  /path/to/file-to-start.jar"   you need to specify where the .jar file is
[20:08] <javier_> ah...
[20:08] <javier_> llutz: I'll try
[20:08] <llutz> javier_: yours only would work, it the jModelTest.jar is inside your actual directory
[20:08] <llutz> p1l0t: tail -1 file
[20:09] <p1l0t> llutz: thanks
[20:09] <flintwingel> d3eniz: anything between 1024 and 65535 ;)... generally something like 50000 to 50009 would be ok for a small server. How many simultaneous connections are you expecting?
[20:09] <d3eniz> 1-2 top ^^
[20:09] <llutz> p1l0t: thats last line, last page... "tac file"
[20:10] <p1l0t> llutz: :D works great I wish I knew about this years ago
[20:10] <llutz> p1l0t: "tac file|less"  sry
[20:10] <javier_> llutz: "/usr/bin/java -mx3500 -jar /home/javier/Master biodiversidad/Herramientas moleculares/Programas/jmodeltest0.1/jModelTest 0.1 package/jModelTest.jar". There is where I have it. It doesn't work that way
[20:10] <llutz> p1l0t: theres also "head" for the start of a file
[20:11] <javier_> and the .bat file is in the same folder as jModelTest.jar
[20:11] <p1l0t> tail worked
[20:11] <llutz> javier_: you need to escape the spaces in the path,  /usr/bin/java -mx3500 -jar "/home/javier/Master biodiversidad/Herramientas moleculares/Programas/jmodeltest0.1/jModelTest 0.1 package/jModelTest.jar"
[20:11] <p1l0t> llutz: cool
[20:12] <llutz> javier_: this time the quotes " are important
[20:12] <roger21> hello, my ubuntu don't boot apparently because it can't access a cifs drive, i don't evan have a prompt to modify the fstab, what can i do?
[20:12] <javier_> llutz: you mean I remove spaces in the path (what is inside quotes)?
[20:12] <javier_> so, write Herramientasmoleculares
[20:12] <roger21> obviously this drive is just external data
[20:12] <llutz> javier_: no, you cannot remove the spaces, it would break the path
[20:13] <javier_> llutz: I see. Then?
[20:13] <llutz> javier_: try this, exactly as here:     /usr/bin/java -mx3500 -jar "/home/javier/Master biodiversidad/Herramientas moleculares/Programas/jmodeltest0.1/jModelTest 0.1 package/jModelTest.jar"
[20:14] <styelz> roger21: boot from a live cd and mount the drive and modify
[20:14] <roger21> ok
[20:15] <javier_> llutz, no luck. Guess is something more complicated...
[20:15] <llutz> javier_: whats the error?
[20:15] <javier_> llutz, just, it doesn't start anything. Nothing happens after executing the file
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> llutz: could you symlink the file to make the path simpler?
[20:16] <soee> hmm strange, im running dolphin as root and im loosing sound in videos, music files etc but when deleting files in dolphin  (runs as admin) i have sound notification
[20:16] <soee> any ideas what ius wrong ?
[20:16] <javier_> llutz: I see what can be the problem. I neet it to be .bat file, but I have .txt. How to create a .bat file in text editor?
[20:16] <llutz> javier_: type "cd  /home/javier/Master biodiversidad/Herramientas moleculares/Programas/jmodeltest0.1/jModelTest 0.1 package/"  or better copy/paste into terminal
[20:16] <SteM> why my 10.04 doesn't ask me to upgrade to a newer version?
[20:17] <llutz> javier_: start your bat file with "sh file.bat"
[20:17] <javier_> llutz, you mean I start it from terminal with sh nameofmyfile.bat?
[20:17] <llutz> javier_: yes
[20:18] <javier_> llutz, but shouldn't I save it as .bat before?
[20:18] <llutz> javier_: the extension doesn't matter, its just characters..
[20:18] <javier_> llutz, ammm
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> soee: what groups is the user in?
[20:18] <javier_> llutz, I'll try
[20:18] <llutz> javier_: this is different from dos/win
[20:19] <soee> ActionParsnip, what user ?
[20:19] <styelz> SteM: you probably have updates set to only LTS version, load up Software Sources app and change the Updates option to any new version.
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> SteM: you probably have the system set to ONLY upgrade to LTS, Considering Precise (also LTS) is out in April, I'd just wait it out (or upgrade now and use the Alpha release)
[20:20] <styelz> jinx
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> soee: the one you cannot gets sounds from....
[20:20] <javier_> llutz, I get this error: Error occurred during initialization of VM; Too small initial heap
[20:21] <llutz> javier_: ask the java-gurus about that... no idea
[20:21] <SteM> styeltz: yes, it is, but why it was not upgrated to 11.04?
[20:21] <javier_> llutz, jejeje. Ok. Thank a lot anywayt
[20:21] <javier_> is there a java room in the chat?=
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> SteM: you will need to upgrade to Maverick, then to Natty... you cannot leapfrog releases, unless you upgrade LTS to LTS
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> javier_: #java
[20:21] <llutz> javier_: ##java
[20:21] <javier_> thanks!
[20:22] <SteM> ActionParsnip: how can i upgrade to Maverick?
[20:22] <llutz> javier_: add "java -Xms128m "
[20:22] <javier_> llutz, in which part?
[20:23] <llutz> javier_: "  /usr/bin/java -mx3500 -Xms128m ....rest of the line"
[20:23] <llutz> javier_: just a thing from google, not sure if that helps
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> SteM: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core; gksudo gedit┬Ā/etc/update-manager/release-upgrades     change: Prompt=lts   to: Prompt=normal   save the new file and close gedit then run: sudo do-release-upgrade
[20:24] <javier_> llutz, no, the same thing as before. But thanks again!
[20:24] <styelz> Stem: you could do it all from Terminal.. apt-get update ... then apt-get dist-upgrade  should get it going . but if i were you id install a fresh 10.10 and copy your data over manually.
[20:24] <llutz> javier_: so better to ask the guys with a clue in ##java
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> SteM: personally I'd not do any of that and run:  sudo update-manager -d    and jump straight to Precise l(
[20:25] <catcher> It's new computer time, any recommended docs on picking out hardware?
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> styelz: dist-upgrade  doesn't take you to the next release
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | catcher
[20:25] <auronandace> catcher: intel wifi and cpu and nvidia graphics
[20:26] <llutz> intel graphics too
[20:26] <catcher> thanks - so intel or nvidia for graphics?
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> nvidia has great linux support :)
[20:26] <styelz> ActionParsnip: yea, then do update-manager
[20:26] <llutz> ActionParsnip: but still not free
[20:27] <auronandace> catcher: nvidia, avoid the hybrid graphics
[20:27] <mneptok> my AMD APU works just fine with 11.10
[20:27] <ubluntu> nvidia ftw
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> styelz: its just update-manager, dist-upgrade keeps the user on the same release
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> llutz: is free a necessity?
[20:27] <styelz> ok
[20:27] <llutz> ActionParsnip: nice to have (for me)
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> llutz: I just use what works, nvidia hav supported Linux for ages so they get my cash
[20:28] <zima> hi
[20:28] <zima> can anyone tell me how to get rid of the "sh: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory" warning?
[20:28] <llutz> ActionParsnip: intel works AND is free:)
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> llutz: I'm sure most nvidia chips willperform better than most of even the most recent intel gpus
[20:29] <llutz> zima: you are in a dir, you just deleted
[20:29] <zima> llutz: lulz?
[20:29] <zima> really?
[20:29] <auronandace> llutz: given time nouveau will catch up
[20:29] <zima> llutz: haha, indeed
[20:29] <llutz> ActionParsnip: well, xterm performs well even with intel :)
[20:29] <milen8204> ąźąĄą╗ą╗ąŠ, čéąŠ ą░ą╗ą╗
[20:29] <catcher> WHere's the most accurate list of supported video cards?
[20:29] <zima> privet
[20:30] <mneptok> model name: AMD E-350 Processor  <-- works spledidly with the 3.x kernel and Free 'radeon' driver
[20:30] <milen8204> hello all
[20:30] <catcher> I need a 3-head card
[20:30] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, hello my virtual friend
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> llutz: true but ifpower is needed I'd shoot for nvidia
[20:30] <milen8204> :D
[20:30] <llutz> ActionParsnip: me too
[20:30] <Yozap> Hey everyone, any idea what program to use for overclocking your GPU in linux?
[20:31] <fission6> how do i set an ubuntu timezone to east coast?
[20:31] <llutz> fission6: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[20:31] <Varazir> hi is it posible to run dreambox on a ubuntu client ?
[20:32] <fission6> thanks llutz
[20:34] <Socket-> why would this happen:  scp -i idrsa root@ip:/file /home/user/ works, yet scp -i idrsa user@ip:/file /home/user doesnt work.  I have the same public key in both root/.ssh/authorizedkeys, and user/.ssh/authorizedkeys
[20:35] <dyllan> Hi all. I would like to move my /opt folder to /home/opt and create a link from /opt to /home/opt can i do this safely, ie. without breaking anything?
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> fission6: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[20:37] <acer_aspire8930> dyllan I think I would be right in saying yes you can have a look at fstab
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> dyllan: sure, should be ok. I'd do the move in liveCD, then boot to root recovery mode and make the link
[20:38] <dyllan> Thanks guys. Unfortunately im accessing the install remotely, guess ill have to wait until im in front of it.
[20:38] <Socket-> sudo mv dopt /home/dan/
[20:38] <Socket-> sudo ln -sf /home/dan/ dopt
[20:38] <Socket-> i did that as a test and it worked
[20:39] <Socket-> sudo mv /opt /home/ && sudo ln -sf /home/opt/ opt
[20:39] <acer_aspire8930> would anyone recommend running a vm of xp in a thin client setup, would it put a lot of strain on the ltsp server?
[20:40] <dyllan> thnx Socket ill try
[20:40] <Socket-> do a test first ;)
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> acer_aspire8930: on the serverside, depends how much grunt you have
[20:40] <dyllan> will do :)
[20:41] <acer_aspire8930> 10 users and 16gb of memory on a xeon 3.12ghz
[20:41] <habmala> Hi all
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> acer_aspire8930: should be ok, could trial it.
[20:42] <Dame> i got an error while installing java on ubuntu 11
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> acer_aspire8930: why do you want to run something so bulky?
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> Dame: how are you installing it?
[20:42] <acer_aspire8930> I would like to, but don't want to spend company cash just testing i :)
[20:42] <habmala> I'm looking for the ubuntu netbook remix for a friend, but can't find it, has it been removed?
[20:42] <Dame> ActionParsnip, i followed the steps here - http://brunoreis.com/tech/intalling-java-ubuntu-natty/
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> habmala: netbook remix hasn't been coded for a while afik
[20:42] <phibxr> Dame, if you just do "sudo apt-get install icedtea-plugin" it will install everything you need.
[20:43] <phibxr> Dame, if you're using 11.10 at least.
[20:43] <Varazir> noone ?
[20:43] <Dame> ok.. so if i followed all these steps, i have to undo them?
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> Dame: what is the output of:  uname -m
[20:43] <phibxr> Varazir, I don't even know what dreambox is. :P
[20:43] <habmala> ActionParsnip: K, I'll give him the regular version then.. thanks
[20:43] <Dame> acer_aspire8930, i686
[20:43] <acer_aspire8930> I have to run Sage 200 client unfortunately that's why I need the bulky
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> Dame: I'll give you my script to install it.
[20:44] <Dame> i got an error in the final step. command : sudo update-java-alternatives --set java-7-sun
[20:44] <Dame> update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for -javaplugin.so.
[20:44] <Guest81385> Is there a way to manipulate a upnp router via the command line?
[20:44] <zodo> anyone know how i can turn on remote x connection on ubuntu?
[20:45] <Dame> um, ActionParsnip, if you could tell me how to take care of this error..
[20:45] <Dame> i've done everything else
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> zodo  try ssh and startx
[20:45] <Dame> i can't find a solution online for this, though others seem to have come across the same issue
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> Dame: not sure if the mirror works or if it violates oracles licensing
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> Dame  you need open-jdk, not sun-jdk
[20:45] <Dame> yeh, one solution said that the folder will be renamed to oracle, ActionParsnip
[20:45] <ubluntu> I think im gonna just boycott java
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> Dame: http://paste.ubuntu.com/809025/
[20:46] <Dame> MonkeyDust, i had open -jdk, i wanted to install the latest one.
[20:46] <zodo> MonkeyDust, did not work
[20:46] <Dame> ok, ActionParsnip
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> Dame  sun-jdk is no lopnger supported
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> longer*
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> Dame: assuming you use Chromium browser, you can just change the link command to link to whatever browser you use plugins folder
[20:47] <zodo> MonkeyDust, you have a website link? for ubuntu x connections?
[20:47] <Dame> ok
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> zodo  http://vanemery.com/Linux/XoverSSH/X-over-SSH2.html
[20:47] <Dame> so i'll do an ln command and link this to the plugins folder of firefox?
[20:47] <puchaty> huh
[20:47] <Dame> i use firefox
[20:47] <puchaty> reinstalled my touchpad
[20:47] <puchaty> and headphones are working just fine
[20:47] <puchaty> ;)
[20:48] <puchaty> I think even better (no issues with plugging and "quiet") :P
[20:48] <Dame> let me try using your script, ActionParsnip. thanks. i think the last two lines is what was required.
[20:49] <dyllan> seemed to have worked Socket- thnx
[20:50] <matthijs> for some reason unity doesn't recognize that terminal is started and every time I click the icon a new window is created (also doesn't show up in the alt-tab list). Anyone know what might be causing this?
[20:50] <zodo> i really dont understand what is coded differently from other linux distros to get remote x to run on ssh..
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> Dame: its not hard to install manually. I believe there is a new ppa on omgubuntu but again, watch the licensing...
[20:50] <Dame> i found this now - http://askubuntu.com/questions/55848/how-do-i-install-oracle-java-jdk-7
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> zodo: it's set in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> zodo: you can disable it for security, ubuntu has it enabled by default
[20:51] <Dame> and the version is correct on my system
[20:51] <Dame> so.. i'm thinking it worked
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> zodo  use ssh -Y remote-user@remote-IP "some-program"
[20:52] <Dame> ActionParsnip, thank you for the help. :)
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> Dame: np
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> zodo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/809031/
[20:52] <fission6> how can i update my system time?
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> <3 hot milk
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> fission6: http://codeghar.wordpress.com/2007/12/06/manage-time-in-ubuntu-through-command-line/
[20:54] <mneptok> fission6: sudo ntpdate tick.usno.navy.mil
[20:54] <fission6> mneptok: 18 Jan 15:59:16 ntpdate[19999]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting
[20:54] <mneptok> fission6: then you are running NTP as a background service already
[20:57] <javier_> Hi! I downloaded a tar.gz file, and I need to install it, but don't know how... any idea?
[20:57] <zodo> ActionParsnip,  i still get an error saying the following.. (xchat:14762): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[20:57] <fman23> zodo what r u trying to do?
[20:57] <Humbedooh> javier_, run 'tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz' to unpack it
[20:57] <danno7_> test
[20:58] <mneptok> zodo: 'ssh -X hostname' WFM. just used Firefox on a remote machine.
[20:58] <Humbedooh> then it should have a readme file or something
[20:58] <cordyceps> anyone have a clue why I can't run ppp0(dialup) and eth0 or wlan0 at the same time?
[20:58] <danno7_> hey, just starting to use unity. Haven't decided if I like it or not. Where the heck is Gparted and the system tools for managing harddrives???
[20:59] <guntbert> danno7_: open the dash and start typing disk....
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> danno7_: press ALT+F2 and run:  gksudo gparted     should be ok, if not then install gparted to make sure it is present
[20:59] <llutz> cordyceps: same time to connect to the internet?
[21:00] <danno7_> guntbert: oh for petes sake...
[21:00] <cordyceps> llutz can't be done, have to disconnect wifi and ethernet
[21:00] <danno7_> I guess its not called gparted anymore?
[21:00] <guntbert> danno7_: I beg your pardon?
[21:01] <Humbedooh> hmm?
[21:01] <llutz> cordyceps: no, just set default route to ppp0
[21:01] <danno7_> guntbert: an expresion...means ffs
[21:01] <Humbedooh> danno7_, did you install gparted in the first place? :>
[21:01] <Humbedooh> it's not installed by default iirc
[21:01] <javier_> Humbedooh, ah, thanks. That's for unpacking. But I see now I need to compile the program, which is going to be too difficult for me. But thanks!
[21:02] <Humbedooh> javier_, usually, you just run ./configure and then make and make install
[21:02] <diverdude> I have just connected a new HD. How do i see if it has been detected in my ubuntu (termninal only)
[21:02]  * cordyceps googling "set default route"
[21:02] <danno7_> I dont think I have ever installed gparted. I thought it was part of the base install of Ubuntu
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: sudo fdisk -l
[21:02] <llutz> diverdude: dmesg, sudo fdisk -l
[21:02] <Humbedooh> danno7_, no, it's part of the livecd, but not the installed version afaik
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> danno7_: worth running:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gparted     just to be sure
[21:03] <javier_> Humbedooh, ah, I did ./configure. Now just type "make" and later just tape "make install"?
[21:03] <danno7_> hmm, I guess maybe I had installed it at some point on my other versions of ubuntu. Go figure
[21:03] <danno7_> anywho, thanks for the help. I can take it from here
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> javier_: make install will need sudo
[21:03] <javier_> ActionParsnip, but with make it doesnt make anything
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> javier_: what are you compiling?
[21:04] <Humbedooh> javier_, yes, and as PactionArsnip said, make install will require sudo
[21:04] <Humbedooh> or, in most cases it will
[21:04] <diverdude> llutz, hmm ok... in the list is only mentioned /devsda[1,2,5]...so its not there...but below there is a block of text describing the disk (1500GB - so its that one) and its named /dev/sdb. Why is it not named sda?
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: is it a PATA drive?
[21:05] <llutz> diverdude: sda 1st hdd, sdb 2nd hdd, sdc 3rd ....
[21:05] <sneezewort> Is there a way to view the update history in ubuntu server?
[21:05] <zodo> if ubuntu is so user friendly why isnt there a gui app that will turn on and off remote x connections?
[21:05] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, its sata
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> sneezewort: /var/log/dpkg.log
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: hmm, strange
[21:06] <diverdude> llutz, ahh ok...so all i need to do now is format /dev/sdb and mount it?
[21:06] <llutz> diverdude: your /dev/sdb contains no partitions yet
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: i'd read through:  dmesg | tail  to see what's going on
[21:06] <MonkeyDust> zodo  i guess there are plenty programs for remote connections in ubuntu
[21:06] <llutz> diverdude: sudo fdisk /dev/sdb    to create at least one partition, if you don't want to use the raw-drive
[21:06] <deeb> Ok this might be a question that could be asked in #mysql as well, but as it is ubuntu I am working on I am asking it here: What is the difference between the "mysql"  and "php5-mysql" package?
[21:06] <zodo> MonkeyDust, really?  all my other linux distros i have tested work fine on remote x apps..  ubuntu does not
[21:07] <sneezewort> ActionParsnip: Thanks.
[21:07] <diverdude> llutz, whats the advantage of creating a partion over using the rawdrive? Im gonna only use a single partition anyway
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> zodo  you could make a list of things you're missing in ubuntu
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: you'll need to partition it to format it
[21:08] <llutz> diverdude: theres no, but some automatisms (udev, hal) might fail as say expect partitioned-drives
[21:08] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, ahh ok..
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: plus you'll get the journal which keeps data consistent
[21:08] <llutz> ActionParsnip: he doesn't
[21:08] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, great...ill just format it then :)
[21:08] <llutz> s/say/they/
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> llutz: it makes life easier
[21:08] <diverdude> and partion hhehe
[21:08] <llutz> ActionParsnip: true
[21:08] <zodo> MonkeyDust, where do i post it at..
[21:09] <meerkats> am I the only one having probloem with xsan under 11.10?
[21:09] <meerkats> am I the only one having problems with xsane under 11.10?
[21:09] <javier_> Humbedooh: it's a bioinformatics app called Garli
[21:09] <llutz> diverdude: sudo fdisk /dev/sdb    "c" "p" "1" "w" "q" ;)
[21:09] <diverdude> llutz, it says something about DOS-compatible mode is deprecated...its a warningshould i just ignore that?
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> zodo  don't know exactly, launchpad is always a good place to start
[21:10] <javier_> Humbedooh, after make I write the name of the program?
[21:10] <diverdude> c p l w q ?
[21:10] <zodo> MonkeyDust, launchpad?
[21:10] <Humbedooh> no, just make
[21:10] <llutz> diverdude: shouldn't harm
[21:10] <Humbedooh> then it spits out a bunch of text for a while, and when it's done, you write 'sudo make install'
[21:10] <Humbedooh> and enter your super secret password
[21:11] <llutz> diverdude: sry,  n p 1 w q   that will create one primary partition in fdisk :)
[21:11] <diverdude> llutz, what are those option flags you wrote? i dont see them in man fdisk
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> javier_: what are you compiling?
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> zodo  or look here, maybe this is a place to submit your ideas http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[21:11] <javier_> ActionParsnip, a bioinformatics app called garli
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> !info garli
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[21:12] <diverdude> llutz, w,p and q is not in the options list
[21:12] <llutz> diverdude: "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb"   then press "n" for "new partition", p for primary, 1 for sdb1, "w" to write, "q" to quit
[21:12] <diverdude> llutz, n also not
[21:12] <diverdude> ahhh
[21:12] <diverdude> hehehehe
[21:12] <diverdude> ok i get it :D
[21:13] <diverdude> sorry
[21:13] <zodo> MonkeyDust, ok cool.. i can see that ubuntu is way behind on some very user friendly options that most other distros have allready implemented
[21:13] <lm1> If you do a whois in via GUI, does that info get logged on server or is it only displayed privately?
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> zodo  work to be done! good luck! ;)
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> javier_: are you compiling  garli 0.96b8-2?
[21:13] <nronksr> Anybody know an enterprise ticketing system that is gnu?
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> lm1: private
[21:14] <javier_> ActionParsnip, no, garli 2.0
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> javier_: gah, found a ppa and everything :(
[21:14] <Votary> where does ubunut still the xchat conf files?
[21:14] <Votary> stick evven
[21:14] <Votary> damnit...
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Votary: in $HOME
[21:14] <Votary> ok thanks
[21:14] <diverdude> llutz, First sector (2048-123456432, default 2048): Do i press w or just enter?
[21:14] <llutz> diverdude: sry, just enter/enter
[21:14] <guntbert> Votary: ~/.xchat2
[21:15] <javier_> ActionParsnip, I see...
[21:16] <diverdude> llutz, hmmm i pressed enter/enter and then w...and then it wrote "The partition table has been altered! Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. Syncing disks.     and then it just automatically quit
[21:16] <zodo> the idea is to give the user an options they need, without hitting the command line and putting all that stuff in for a remote x connection
[21:16] <diverdude> llutz, wasn't it supposed to format it?
[21:16] <llutz> diverdude: nope, sudo mkfs.ext4 -m0 /dev/sdb1
[21:16] <guntbert> zodo: please stop that ranting - start coding instead
[21:17] <xanscale> need help with fglrx amd ati drivers
[21:17] <diverdude> llutz, ahh now its doing stuff
[21:17] <diverdude> llutz, for 1.5 TB...will this take a while?
[21:18] <xanscale> why with fglrx unity works great and gnome-shell works but top bar are green/blue ?
[21:18] <llutz> diverdude: not too long, time to grab a beer
[21:18] <diverdude> llutz, haha i like your way of thinking :D
[21:18] <phibxr> xanscale, is that radeon?
[21:20] <diverdude> llutz, ahhh got me 1 beer :D
[21:20] <diverdude> llutz, nice cold special brew...just the way i like it :P
[21:21] <cordyceps> llutz: ppp0 is the default according to route :default         *               <IP_ADDRESS>         U     0      0        0 ppp0
[21:22] <diverdude> llutz, done...was that it? or is there more?
[21:22] <lm1> Anyone using nvidia SLI?
[21:22] <llutz> diverdude: thats it, no select a mount-point, add a line to /etc/fstab and enjoy your beer
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> beer goooood
[21:22] <llutz> now*
[21:23] <cordyceps> llutz: also I just need to modprobe the wifi driver and ppp0 will drop off
[21:23] <diverdude> llutz, /media/storage ?
[21:23] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, beeeer much goood
[21:23] <diverdude> :d
[21:23] <diverdude> :D
[21:23] <llutz> diverdude: what do you want to use it for?
[21:23] <diverdude> llutz, storage :D
[21:24] <llutz> diverdude: hrm, just one user or more?
[21:24] <diverdude> llutz, welll maybe its good to put in a place for multiple users
[21:25] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, me drinking special copenhagen carlsberg brew :D gooooooooooooooooood
[21:25] <llutz> diverdude: ok, you'll have to adjust ownership/permissions then. id mount it to /storage, /media is more for dynamically mounted stuff
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: not had copenhagen brew, I have a cup of PG Tips :)
[21:26] <diverdude> llutz, whoo its the first time i have ever created a new dir in root :D
[21:26] <pippo> ciao
[21:26] <llutz> diverdude: there is always a 1st time, so do it.  "Schussenrieder Schwarzbier No1" btw :)
[21:27] <llutz> diverdude: sudo mkdir /storage && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /storage
[21:27] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, whooooo i like their presentation movie : D http://www.pgtips.co.uk/
[21:28] <diverdude> llutz, ahh Schussenrieder Schwarzbier No1   i like the dark ones
[21:28] <diverdude> llutz, ahh ok... and also add it to /etc/fstab?
[21:28] <llutz> diverdude: yes
[21:29] <meerkats> should a very unstable GUI worry me? it just changed withouth warning
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: gui to what?
[21:29] <meerkats> crap, my mouse just stopped working
[21:29] <diverdude> llutz, so i just add a new line to /etc/fstab : mount /dev/sdb1 /storage ?
[21:30] <joe__rebel> How exactly do I register for a particular channel?
[21:30] <meerkats> forgive the noob ActionParsnip , but GUI = graphical interface?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: I suggest you use UUIDs
[21:30] <llutz> diverdude: naaaa, "/dev/sdb1   /storage  ext4   default,noatime 0 0"
[21:30] <HSarena> Hi! My touchpad does n't work, plz help me, i have Vaio Laptop and have 11.10
[21:30] <diverdude> meerkats, yes
[21:30] <meerkats> ok
[21:30] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, UUIDs ? Is that difficult to use?
[21:30] <Votary> :1212
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: yes, but to what thing. Like xsane is a GUI for sane, gparted is a gui to parted.
[21:30] <llutz> diverdude: or UUID=  from "blkid /dev/sdb1" instead of /dev/sdb1
[21:31] <meerkats> help with this one: im stuck here, my mouse does not work, how can I use the keyboard to change between open windows? I need to access the terminal and circle to firefox too...
[21:31] <Duality> hi
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: no, the default install uses them. You can see the UUIDs of your partitions by running:   sudo blkid
[21:31] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, ubuntu GUI
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: so you mean Unity...
[21:31] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, im using fallback, if that means something
[21:31] <DLCN> Hi, is there a way to re-take my terminal after an SSH session has timed out in it?
[21:32] <HSarena> is there anyone can help me????
[21:32] <DLCN> it seems to have become unresponsive
[21:32] <diverdude> llutz, so that line i should add to /etc/fstab is : "UUID=  from "blkid /dev/sdb1" ?
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: you can use a terminal to unload then reload the mouse module
[21:32] <llutz> diverdude: nnoooo
[21:32] <diverdude> hehehehe
[21:32] <llutz> diverdude: either "/dev/sdb1   /storage  ext4   default,noatime 0 0"
[21:32] <diverdude> :D
[21:33] <llutz> diverdude: or UUID=(from "blkid /dev/sdb1")   /storage ext4 ......."
[21:33] <Duality> I am not so used to command line, i know some things to get my way around, but i installed ubuntu Server, and also want it to share network to other computers, in normal ubuntu with gui i did edit connections and set ipv4 settings to shared to other computers, how can i accomplish this on ubuntu server?
[21:33] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, somethin really strange: I connected an independet mouse via USB and this one works (craptop user here, with an embedded mouse area)
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: what make and model system?
[21:33] <diverdude> llutz, whats the ....... ?
[21:33] <llutz> diverdude: the rest from the line before like "UUID=411c1a24-092e-4400-aee0-07e618cd9dbf       /storage           ext4  defaults,noatime 0 0"
[21:34] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, the independent mouse is a logitech M180
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: no, the system, not the mouse
[21:34] <meerkats> a lol
[21:34] <HSarena> Hi! my touchpad doesn't work, how to fix it???
[21:34] <diverdude> llutz, hmm
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> HSarena: what make and model system?
[21:35] <llutz> diverdude: "blkid /dev/sdb1" to get the easy-to-remember UUID-string
[21:35] <diverdude> wooo
[21:36] <jurua> helo
[21:36] <diverdude> llutz, cant i do something like blkid /dev/sdb1 >> /etc/fstab ?
[21:36] <diverdude> llutz, to append it
[21:36] <HSarena> ActionParsnip : i have Vaio laptop and have ubuntu 11.10
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> HSarena: thought so
[21:36] <catno7> is this #ubuntu-unregged
[21:36] <llutz> diverdude: as root, yes
[21:36] <elfranne> i added a second hdd on my ubuntu server but it is not showing up in ls -l /dev/sd* (it is a sata disk)
[21:37] <diverdude> llutz, ofc. im root :D
[21:37] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, sorry, do you mean kernel and gnome information?
[21:37] <jurua> rai
[21:37] <diverdude> llutz, but im not drinking root beer :P
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> HSarena: add the boot option:   i8024.nomux=1
[21:37] <jurua> talk
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: no, the make and model of the laptop. Sony Vaio, Acer Aspire, Dell Lattitude??? Nothing at all to do with the operating system at all
[21:38] <jurua> mi frem
[21:38] <HSarena> ActionParsnip : How??
[21:39] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, sorry, AHTEC
[21:39] <jurua> helo
[21:39] <jurua> help kubuntu
[21:40] <auronandace> jurua: you'll need to explain the problem
[21:40] <elfranne> i added a second hdd on my headless linux server but it is not showing up in ls -l /dev/sd* (it is a sata disk) any idea why ?
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> HSarena: in /etc/default/grub    the default boot options are:  quiet splash    add the option in there then run:  sudo update-grub      Instead of immediately asking for clarification, you could do just a tiny bit of searching and find guides based o what I replied....
[21:40] <chrischw> hi everyone...
[21:40] <chrischw> i need some help with kdenlive
[21:40] <n000b> hi chrischw ;)
[21:40] <diverdude> llutz, sweet so i now have in my /etc/fstab:    /dev/sdb1: UUID="dsa fdsaf -fds as fdsa f" TYPE="ext4"   Should i change it so that the line reads:      UUID="dsa fdsaf -fds as fdsa f"        /storage           ext4  defaults,noatime 0 0 ?
[21:40] <jurua> o
[21:40] <chrischw> can anyone help a lost newbie?
[21:40] <jurua> mi proxy help
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> chrischw  shoot
[21:41] <llutz> diverdude: without the quotes around the UUID
[21:41] <n000b> someone who knows kdenlive out there? o.O
[21:41] <th^2> hello. i can choose a DNS server in my routers LAN conf. i dont understand what does that mean...
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: try the boot option: i8042.reset
[21:41] <chrischw> ok, so kdenlive works fine on 11.10 64 bit, but the rendering does not work...
[21:42] <jurua> yes
[21:42] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, open terminal, copy that, right?
[21:42] <llutz> th^2: that means, if you don't like the one your ISP offers, use your own
[21:42] <lm1> Anyone game under linux?  If so, whats your hardware?
[21:42] <chrischw> everything results in the meaningless error "rendering crashed"
[21:42] <diverdude> llutz, and then restart system?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: see the long line I gave HSarena earlier
[21:42] <llutz> diverdude: why?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> lm1: i do a little
[21:42] <chrischw> any idea?
[21:42] <diverdude> llutz, to make changes take effect :D
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> lm1: Dell D420 plays urban terror just dandy
[21:43] <llutz> diverdude: no need
[21:43] <th^2> llutz, but my eth0 is configured to use googles dns :S
[21:43] <diverdude> llutz, ok...how do i then make the changes take effect0+
[21:43] <diverdude> =?
[21:43] <llutz> diverdude: sudo mount /storage
[21:44] <bastidrazor> diverdude: sudo mount -a  will mount anything in fstab that isn't mounted
[21:44] <llutz> diverdude: that'll mount it now. next time you boot, it will do automatic
[21:44] <sskalnik> For some reason, chromium under Ubuntu has left part of an image stuck on my screen. Even when I exit chromium part of a page's image is stuck on the screen. :/
[21:44] <sskalnik> Ah, nvm, fixed. Bizarre.
[21:45] <diverdude> WONDERFUL
[21:45] <Duality> how can i share a network connection on ubuntu server?
[21:45] <diverdude> now i have enlarged my playground with 1.5 TB :D
[21:45] <diverdude> now i have room for so much nitty gritty linux warez :D
[21:46] <sskalnik> Nevermind again; looks like that patch of the screen just got replaced with another image
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> !ics | Duality
[21:49] <Duality> that's gui ..?
[21:49] <LjL> Duality: it gives both a GUI option and a command-line option, scroll down.
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> Duality: it can be
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> Duality: try reading the link, then ask questions...
[21:51] <diverdude> uhhh i wish cp had some output to see its progress like scp has
[21:51] <LjL> diverdude: cp --verbose
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: you can use rsync which can give a progress bar
[21:51] <sskalnik> cp -v
[21:51] <popey> diverdude: you can use pv to get status of cp command
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/cp-progress-bar-407381/
[21:52] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, nice... rsync -r src dest ?
[21:52] <sskalnik> http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/1708/106125308416437584541326923465ujtHJRHtMUIkH0JMgcWE.PNG <---- any idea what's going on here? After bringing up a chromium menu, this section of the screen is stuck.
[21:53] <HSarena> ActionParsnip : Sorry, but i don't understand. you mean add "i8024.nomux=1" in "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= "
[21:54] <bugaloo> Hi all! Here is the thing: I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed in a broken notebook. I was able to start this broken notebook enough to make an image of its hd. I want to know if/how I use this image and run it in a virtualbox machine. anyone?
[21:55] <HSarena>  ActionParsnip : sometimes one of the clicks don't work, sometimes i can't clicking, and sometimes a pointer won't move
[21:55] <LjL> bugaloo: it's probably better to just mount it and save the data...
[21:55] <theadmin> bugaloo: What kind of image? dd?
[21:55] <bugaloo> theadmin, I have dd image of the partition where ubuntu was running before
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> HSarena: change this line:   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"    to:    GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i8024.nomux=1"
[21:56] <bugaloo> LjL: this isn't enough for me... I need to run the machine
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> HSarena: I can't put it any plainer.
[21:56] <n000b> hello? some one here who can help me with kdenlive?
[21:56] <theadmin> bugaloo: If so, well, you need to convert it to a vdi: http://dd2vmdk.appspot.com/
[21:57] <theadmin> bugaloo: This needs a working system though... There are other tools around too
[21:57] <bugaloo> theadmin, I already converted it... but once my image is from "sda1" and not "sda" it seems the virtualbox thinks my image has a hd with no partition table
[21:57] <theadmin> bugaloo: Ah, well, you have a partition image... That ain't gonna work at all
[21:58] <theadmin> bugaloo: VirtualBox doesn't deal with partitions, only drives >.<
[21:58] <bugaloo> theadmin, yes, sorry... I miss explained ... it's a partition image
[21:58] <bugaloo> theadmin, but I guess there is a way to use it yet... with some work of course
[21:59] <theadmin> bugaloo: Well if there is then I dunno
[21:59] <bugaloo> theadmin, I can "mount" the partition image converted in vdi on my virtualbox running a live ubuntu iso
[21:59] <geekbri> is there a dry run mode for apt-get ?
[22:00] <LjL> geekbri: --dry-run works
[22:00] <theadmin> geekbri: Yeah, apt-get --dry-run
[22:00] <bugaloo> theadmin, so I'm trying right now to do this: I created another vdi (with partition table, sda and sda1) and I mounted both vdi's (my sda1 and sdb with the partition image) and I did "dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb1"
[22:00] <geekbri> theadmin, LjL: well then, thanks... that was easy :)
[22:00] <bugaloo> I hope my partition image sda goes to the sdb1 partition
[22:00] <bugaloo> but I'm not sure if this is going to work, and takes a bit to do it because it's a large partition
[22:01] <bugaloo> so i'm looking for another idea in the mean time
[22:01] <hydrox24> bugaloo: another idea for what exactly?
[22:01] <bugaloo> hydrox24, i just said it all hehe
[22:02] <HSarena> ActionParsnip : Thank you and Sorry about my stupid question but can you tell me what  this action do? , just to know
[22:02] <hydrox24> bugaloo: sorry :/
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> HSarena: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub     change the file, save the new file, close gedit then run:  sudo update-grub
[22:03] <bugaloo> hydrox24, that's ok... I'd repeat but it was a long explanation, hehe... and I'm lazy :P
[22:03] <epaphus> Hello guys... what is the best way to install java6 (from sun) in firefox as a plugin? I have 10.04
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> epaphus: there is no best way
[22:03] <epaphus> ActionParsnip, ok.. what would be my options..
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> epaphus: what is the output of:  uname -m
[22:03] <bugaloo> java plugins is always a pain
[22:04] <diverdude> llutz, ok..moving 250GB takes some time
[22:04] <diverdude> llutz, *copying
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> bugaloo: not hugely. I have it scripted
[22:04] <bugaloo> ActionParsnip, nice
[22:04] <llutz> diverdude: time for the next beer ;)
[22:04] <diverdude> llutz, hahahahaa
[22:04] <bastidrazor> i agree
[22:05] <RadiumCat> hi, how do i switch input languages in xubuntu 11.somethng?
[22:05] <kent> d
[22:05] <kent> ping abatoo
[22:05] <diverdude> llutz, many beers :D
[22:05] <akston> Does anyone else get intermittent uPNP connections w/ Ubuntu? I can't quite figure out what's going on but think I've eliminated the router and database as causes
[22:05] <diverdude> llutz, ill do some programming meanwhile :P
[22:05] <diverdude> llutz, afterall..i am a geek
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> epaphus: if you can give the output of the command, I can give you a script and it will install Java for you...
[22:06] <llutz> diverdude: have fun, i'll keep sorting mp3s :(
[22:06] <diverdude> llutz, ohh nice..i should do that as well...im just to lazy
[22:06] <epaphus> ActionParsnip, yes one min please
[22:06] <bugaloo> ActionParsnip, you should but a "uname -m" variable in your script, hehehe... just kiddin' :)
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> bugaloo: was thinking about it actually :)
[22:07] <bugaloo> ActionParsnip, it's a good idea if you already have the scripts separated
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> bugaloo: it's just the downloaded file which would change
[22:08] <goddard> can i use gpg in gmails web interface?
[22:08] <bugaloo> yep
[22:08] <lm1> lm1: tst
[22:08] <diverdude> llutz, i wonder when a mp3 sorter will  be invented
[22:08] <diverdude> llutz, a proper one
[22:09] <goddard> bugaloo: sweet how!
[22:09] <goddard> HOW HOW
[22:09] <lm1> ActionParsnip: tst
[22:09] <LjL> !test | lm1
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> lm1: tst to you too
[22:09] <llutz> diverdude: i'd like a working service, where i just can upload some checksums of untagged files and get id3-tags back
[22:10] <LjL> llutz: musicbrainz sorta does that
[22:10] <diverdude> llutz, ohh yes that would be awesome
[22:10] <llutz> LjL: unfortunately not really good when it come to Blues/rock (music for old men, you know) :(
[22:11] <epaphus> ActionParsnip, i686
[22:11] <diverdude> llutz, hey...i like blues and rock.....are you calling me old
[22:11] <llutz> diverdude: never
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> epaphus: sweet, ok run this lot. You'll need to change the link command to copy it to Firefox's plugins folder: http://paste.ubuntu.com/809110/
[22:12] <ratcheer> I like blues and rock. And I am old.
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> ratcheer: not at all
[22:12] <llutz> i guess it's time to leave or to change to !ot
[22:12] <epaphus> ActionParsnip, ok cool . ill try it
[22:12] <ratcheer> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> ratcheer: np
[22:13] <diverdude> ohh yes.. llutz, ActionParsnip thx for the help b4
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: always a pleasure, thanks for the gratitude
[22:14] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, i dont think i could run linux without these help channels...really
[22:14] <Wargasm> diverdude: agreed
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: the community helps itself :)
[22:16] <bugaloo> for guys who like this kind of support, dont forget to come back when you know enough to help someone
[22:16] <diverdude> ActionParsnip, but i have fallen in love with opensource...dont think ill ever leave it again
[22:17] <diverdude> bugaloo, certaainly...i also try to help where i can
[22:18] <heoa> how can I run many files in bin at the same tim?
[22:18] <heoa> err time?
[22:19] <heoa> ./bin/*
[22:19] <heoa> It runs only one file, I want some easy way to run many -- I know how to do that with a file but there must be some straightforward wildcard or some shell-based solution
[22:19] <hydrox24> heoa: like, tun many of the executables in parralell?
[22:19] <bugaloo> heoa, use "&"
[22:20] <bugaloo> like... ./file1 & ./file2 & ./file3
[22:20] <bugaloo> it'll run all them
[22:20] <hydrox24> heoa: that's right, the "&" will put each command run into the background allowing the next one to being immediately
[22:20] <mun> hi
[22:20] <hydrox24> no,
[22:20] <hydrox24> heoa: "./bin/* &"
[22:20] <laptop> Joe
[22:20] <hydrox24> the & puts the command in the background
[22:20] <DFan247> test...
[22:21] <hydrox24> DFan247: loud & clear
[22:21] <DFan247> thanks!
[22:21] <Guest54531> hello
[22:21] <mun> i have a server that has 2 interfaces connected: wlan0 and usb0 (tethering). the usb0 was connected first and all traffic seems to be going through that. is there a way to force traffic through wlan0 via console?
[22:21] <heoa> hydrox24: sorry but that is not right, it puts the one file to background
[22:22] <bugaloo> mun, change your default route
[22:22] <mun> bugaloo, how do i do that?
[22:22] <llutz> mun: sudo route del default && sudo route add default wlan0
[22:22] <bugaloo> mun, route del default ; route add default gw wlan0
[22:22] <bugaloo> min, execute it as root
[22:22] <Guest54531> where's the free porn?
[22:22] <bugaloo> Guest54531, off, against sopa hehehe
[22:22] <pangolin> Guest54531: wrong network
[22:22] <mun> bugaloo, llutz thanks so much.
[22:23] <hydrox24> Guest54531: Only tech porn here, and yes, pangolin is right
[22:23] <bugaloo> anytime
[22:23] <imbezol> heoa: ls -1 | while read FILE ; do $FILE ; done
[22:23] <Guest54531> haha, sopa
[22:23] <hydrox24> bugaloo: WIN
[22:23] <imbezol> heoa: though that does them one at a time
[22:23] <bugaloo> ;)
[22:23] <Guest54531> internet is funded by taxpayers, it should be censored
[22:23] <Titomen> Hi..has any body done an image with partimage on a system build on software raid: raid1 boot- radi1 swap, raid 5 system, raid 5 home?
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> Guest54531: that is offtopic here, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:24] <pangolin> Guest54531: This is a Ubuntu support channel, please stick to the topic.
[22:24] <bugaloo> Guest54531, ok...  I'm against porn and stealing so logically for sopa
[22:25] <pangolin> Guest54531: last warning.
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest54531: that is offtopic here, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:25] <sunnycenter> yo
[22:25] <hydrox24> heoa: You could use the "gnu parrallels" program to run multiple programs concurrently.
[22:26] <Titomen> pangolin: thanks to be so polite and educated, ActionParsnip: Thanks for the real help..That is what this should be for "Help....Thanks ActionParsnip
[22:27] <hydrox24> no gnu, no wikipedia, how the hell am I supposed to help people!!!!
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> Titomen: always a pleasure :)
[22:27] <hydrox24> I live in australia and support the anti-SOPA cause but this is getting really annoying!
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> hydrox24: when did gnu stop?
[22:27] <redlegoreng> Hello ! I'm trying to install ubuntu on my ThinkadW520. I used universal usb installer to copy the ISO to an external usb harddrive. Everything worked, but now, when i choose my external drive in the boot menu, it does not load (goes back to the load menu). Does it matter that it's a hard drive and not a flash drive ?
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> SOPA is offtopic here
[22:27] <hydrox24> ActionParsnip: don't know
[22:27] <imbezol> heoa: ls -1 | while read FILE ; do $FILE & done
[22:27] <imbezol> heoa: that does them all at once
[22:27] <laptop_> What happened to Ubuntu? It used to be great but now UNITY sucks. Are windows developers trying to destroy it?
[22:28] <Wargasm> hydrox24 wiki works, you just have to click stop before it goes to the SOPA page
[22:28] <hydrox24> sorry, was trying to lookup parrallels info on the gnu.org site
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> redlegoreng: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded
[22:28] <Night-hacks> synaptics disable key doesn't works on my ubuntu 11.04 (toshiba portege)
[22:28] <Titomen> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[22:28] <hydrox24> Wargasm: might just use lynx
[22:28] <phibxr> laptop_, yes, we actually are.
[22:28] <redlegoreng> no, I'll do that now
[22:28] <krumme> hey all is ther some one the know if i can install Ubuntu on my iphone
[22:28] <Night-hacks> synaptics touchpad disable key doesn't works on my ubuntu 11.04 (toshiba portege)
[22:29] <hydrox24> krumme: only a basic version of linux known as busybox... what sort of phone is it?
[22:29] <laptop_> iphones are for stupid people
[22:29] <krumme> hydrox24 iphone 4
[22:29] <hydrox24> Night-hacks: Unfortunately those are the sorts of issues you'll have to test your google-fu with.
[22:29] <phibxr> !trolling | laptop_
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> krumme: seems to be an ARM CPU, so you could
[22:29] <phibxr> Crap, didn't exist.
[22:29] <[deXter]> phibxr, you just got trolled by ubottu  ;)
[22:29] <Wargasm> laptop_: try a different DE, thats what I did and its great when you find one that works for you
[22:29] <hydrox24> krumme: The first few iPhones can run a busybox linux, but no touch support, so basically only potential for hacking and geeks. it isn't practical
[22:30] <laptop_> No, really.  This Unity thing is HORRIBLE.
[22:30] <yorkz> iphone 4 suxxxx
[22:30] <lm1> How did the SOPA bill do anyway, did they vote today or was it just the blackout?
[22:30] <Night-hacks> hydrox24: is there any way to get any input values in x input ? wanna check if linux gets any signal from that key ?
[22:30] <redlegoreng> ActionParsnip: where's the checksum ? i dont see it on the download page
[22:30] <krumme> hydrox24 :( soo no Ubuntu for my iphone
[22:30] <phibxr> laptop_, we hired the same team that designed windows vista. pretty, isn't it?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> laptop_: you don't have to use Unity or Gnome..
[22:30] <Humbedooh> lml, just blackout
[22:30] <hydrox24> krumme: Android works kinda OK on older iPhones: http://linuxoniphone.blogspot.com/2010/04/ive-been-working-on-this-quietly-in.html
[22:30] <epaphus> ActionParsnip, worked perfectly. If I download a .jnlp file (to be executed by the JRE directly without the browser) How could i do this...? do you know?
[22:30] <hydrox24> krumme: Essaentially no.
[22:30] <alien2050> laptop_: there are many other options all using ubuntu, like gnome-shell, e17, kde, lxde, etc.... so you're not bound to use unity...
[22:30] <Humbedooh> lml, wait till January 24th for the good voting stuff :)
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Humbedooh: if you are quick on the STOP button in your browser, you can read wikis
[22:31] <Humbedooh> ActionParsnip, uhm, I know?
[22:31] <hydrox24> laptop_: I use gnome 3. I love it to bits
[22:31] <laptop_> PHIBXR, that's what it appears like.  Going over to Mint
[22:31] <yorkz> well unity is sort of a failure imo
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> epaphus: not sure, I only use java in browser
[22:31] <alien2050> hydrox24: +1
[22:31] <epaphus> ActionParsnip, thanks
[22:31] <Wargasm> laptop_: I use lxde... I love that so far... except for the battery monitor GRRR
[22:31] <epaphus> Anybody know how i can run a .jnlp with the JRE in Ubuntu?
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> Humbedooh: well, I'm not fully up on what you know and what you don't know, do I, uhm?
[22:32]  * Humbedooh slaps ActionParsnip
[22:32] <hydrox24> yeah, I find gnome 3 has a steep learning/comfort curve but stick with it for a week or so and you'll be addicted
[22:32] <alien2050> epaphus: yep it should work... I did it before with sun ELOM apps
[22:32] <laptop_> I am using gnome and I still have this stupid bar on the left like windows
[22:32] <hydrox24> I stuck with unity for 2 weeks atleast to break it in and still didn't like it THAT much... its OK
[22:32] <epaphus> alien2050, double cliking it just opens a window to select how to open it.. not sure what i should do though
[22:33] <hydrox24> laptop_: you'll find that unity is infact a baked-on extension for gnome
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> laptop_: install xfce4  you will not have Unity and you can run all your favourite Gnome apps
[22:33] <nronksr> Anybody know an enterprise ticketing system that is gnu?
[22:33] <hydrox24> nronksr: This probably isn't the right channel
[22:33] <alien2050> epaphus: it's been some time, but I think it needs to find your java bins... try from command line it should give you more info
[22:33] <hydrox24> ask that on the whirlpool or linux forums
[22:33] <laptop_> Action, I'll try that
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> laptop_: there are plenty of desktops you can use
[22:34] <hydrox24> laptop_: I also recommend xfce4 for simplicity and stability, but I think gnome-shell is more efficient and fun.
[22:34] <kent> about shh tunneling, downloading files through the server does that strain its connection speed? anythoughts?
[22:34] <hydrox24> laptop_: I reckkon xfce4 is outdated but then again, that IS why people love it so much
[22:34] <redlegoreng> ActionParsnip: i compared checksums, it's ok... i'll try once more, but it is supposed to work as well on external hard drives as well, right ?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> laptop_: here is my desktop in Precise. I use LXDE: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/Desktop.png
[22:35] <hydrox24> kent: more specific?
[22:35] <ahammond> kent: it incurs some processor overhead and creates additional latency.
[22:35] <laptop_> hydrox I installed gnome shell but still have the stupid bar on the left
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> redlegoreng: ot sure then, try making the bootable device with a different app
[22:35] <heoa> imbezol: yes, takes some time to kill some tex -bugs (apparently in the paralellel I should also automate pressing enter while compiling latex documents...)
[22:36] <glebihan> laptop_, then you didn't run gnome-shell, there isn't a left bar on gnome-shell
[22:36] <redlegoreng> ok
[22:36] <kent>  trafficking my downloads throught the server...
[22:36] <heoa> imbezol: (or to fix the latex errs...  on time)
[22:36] <imbezol> heoa: you could add "yes" to your command
[22:36] <mun> bugaloo, llutz hi again. regarding sudo route add default wlan0 it seems that the original flags for default is UG ut the new flag for default is U. does it make much difference?
[22:36] <laptop_> My brother owns a company that sends people tickets for illegal downloads
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> glebihan: I thouht the default was this: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4hgJe6HCdAY/TnyV4cq_SgI/AAAAAAAACik/w3kJJy5kCZc/s1600/gnome_shell_ubuntu_oneric.png  whih has a bar
[22:37] <Titomen> I open this uestion to anybody here who can help me, since i am new...i ask a question, and not politelyand with warnings that i should leave, very kindly ActionParship Advise me to go to the  #ubuntu-offtopic, which i did, once i place the question there, pangolin one more time in not a very helpfull way place this comment: "this channel is not a replacement for when you don't get an answer
[22:37] <Titomen> in #ubuntu  but yeah, it's not good to come here for support"...So this is my question FOR UBUNTU.....i have an ubuntu sytem on software raid with a computer that is having some problems...i have to create an image so i can restored to a new computer....can somebody help me on this....
[22:37] <heoa> imbezol: yes well now I freezed it :P
[22:37] <imbezol> heoa: :) have fun with that
[22:37] <glebihan> ActionParsnip, well that's the overview, this isn't visible on the desktop until you actually open it
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> Titomen: you can use partimage or dd to make an image of the partition
[22:38] <heoa> imbezol: I did  do ./$FILE | yes & <-- getting nice amounts of yes :P
[22:38] <Nfisher> Hi all ive a little probleme here. i jsut added a new user and now i logged in as it... now when i type "who" it doesnt list the loged in new user.. whats wrong here?
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> glebihan: I guess but the bar is still there ;)
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> Nfisher: try:  who -a
[22:38] <Titomen> ActionParsnip:..well that was my intention to the original question...but since the sistem is on a Software raid..can that be possible?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> Titomen: not sure, I dont use software raid
[22:39] <glebihan> ActionParsnip, right :)
[22:39] <imbezol> Titomen: there are lots of options depending on the problem
[22:39] <laptop_> If you use limewire you're going to get a ticket
[22:39] <imbezol> Titomen: what's going on with the system?
[22:39] <Nfisher> ActionParsnip, no, neither working
[22:40] <Titomen> ActionParsnip: imbezol: My concer is that if you image the complete system i believe the raid wont be able to be copy
[22:41] <imbezol> Titomen: what's the problem with the system?
[22:41] <Titomen> I was trying to see if anybody uses software raid and has being able to do that
[22:41] <hydrox24> Here is my gnome-shell desktop: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6833827/Screenshot%20at%202012-01-19%2009%3A36%3A09.png
[22:42] <Titomen> imbezol: i have 9.10  would like to upgrade and there is no more support..so i guess i need to do i clean instal..but before that i would like to do an image so if something goes worng, i can go back to my previous state
[22:42] <hydrox24> Titomen: Clonezilla?
[22:43] <imbezol> Titomen: ah.. well the experienced user might do something like toss another harddrive in, add it as a raid 1 mirror, break it off and keep it as a gold copy... or boot off a rescue disk, mount the existing partitions read only and dd image to another drive.. lots of options
[22:44] <imbezol> Titomen: if you're not that experienced with software raid, then yeah, something like partimage is probably your best bet. it understands linux software raid just fine
[22:44] <shadaloo> hello
[22:44] <shadaloo> anyone recommend a tool to convert .avi to a burnable DVD format
[22:44] <ahammond> I want to install upstart 1.4 on ubuntu 10.10. Haven't seen a PPA. What's the best course of action?
[22:45] <imbezol> Titomen: you can even just tar up your whole filesystem and save the tar.. if you need to restore you'd just create whatever type partitions you want, extract, fix your fstab if needed, and reinstall your bootloader
[22:45] <ahammond> s/install/upgrade to/
[22:45] <mun> does anyone know how to find my gateway address?
[22:45] <ahammond> mun: have you looked in /etc/network/config?
[22:45] <owenll> shadaloo: DeVeDe
[22:45] <mun> ahammond, i haven't got the config file
[22:45] <Titomen> imbezol: i am not so experienze...but trying to avoid hre previous type of answer when i came here i read a lot and suposely because of the raid issues there migth be problems..that why i was trying to get some advise?
[22:46] <ahammond> mun: erŌĆ” sorry, that would be /etc/network/interfaces
[22:46] <cypher-neo> shadaloo, videotrans is good, but I'm not sure it accepts AVI.
[22:46] <mun> ahammond, ah right. well there's no address in it. just auto lo and iface lo inet loopback
[22:46] <imbezol> Titomen: raid gives you more options if anything
[22:46] <imbezol> Titomen: don't be scared of it
[22:46] <ahammond> mun: oh, dhcp? try netstat -nr | grep <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:46] <shadaloo> cypher-neo: is it command line
[22:46] <cypher-neo> shadaloo, Yes, it is.
[22:46] <imbezol> Titomen: if you really don't want to mess around with losing it.. your best option is to remove the harddrives and install on different ones
[22:47] <mun> ahammond, yep got something. which row should I look at? the one with UG?
[22:47] <Jerub> what's the easiest way to install a 3.1+ kernel on ubuntu? I want to use a later version of btrfs.
[22:47] <imbezol> Titomen: or at least back up your /home directory before trying to upgrade
[22:47] <hydrox24> I would just use tar to backup?
[22:47] <mun> ahammond, basically i'm asking because i'm trying to change the default route from usb0 to wlan0. using sudo route del default && sudo route add default wlan0 doesn't give the new default the UG flag.
[22:47] <ahammond> mun: the <IP_ADDRESS> desitination row is the default. look for the gateway in that row.
[22:47] <mun> ahammond, so i wonder if i'll need sudo route add default gw <gateway> wlan0?
[22:48] <ahammond> mun: default routes are at the IP layer, not the interface layer.
[22:48] <cypher-neo> shadaloo, There's also dvdauthor
[22:48] <Titomen> imbezol: well i gues i can do a backup of the home data also..tehn try part image and if something goes wrong...the worst is to do the iinstallation and configuration.....is clonezilla to differetn form partimage?
[22:48] <Nfisher> Hi all! is there a possibility to view the stream of a remote box's webcam on the local machine?
[22:48] <Jerub> mun: /sbin/ip route replace default via $gateway_ip dev wlan0
[22:48] <ahammond> mun: you want to be editing that /etc/network/interfaces file. The man page is pretty good for that one.
[22:49] <shadaloo> cypher-neo: thanks
[22:49] <imbezol> Titomen: never used clonezilla
[22:49] <ahammond> Jerub: seriously? coolness has happened recently. :)
[22:49] <imbezol> Titomen: i've used partimage lots though and it's been solid for me
[22:49] <mun> basically i have 3 rows when I run netstat -nr | grep <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:49] <ahammond> any suggestions about getting upstart 1.4?
[22:49] <Titomen> imbezol: i try to upgrade, but because i have 9.10..it wont let me do that, that is why ithougth about protection first and then try to do clean isntall
[22:49] <Nfisher> ..since i dont want to x-forward cheese which is pretty unhandy
[22:49] <Nfisher> and doenst work well
[22:50] <Aelingil> Can anyone show me / link to me a walkthrough How to recover a folder that was deleted during a restore? I've tried finding the old files, and they are no where on the system.
[22:50] <mun> only one row has the UG flag -- so that's the one with the gateway ip?
[22:50] <imbezol> Titomen: if you download a 10.04 disk and stick it in, it won't let you upgrade?
[22:50] <Jerub> ahammond, mun: what i really meant was, don't use 'route', use the iproute2/'ip' tool, because it will work better.
[22:50] <imbezol> Titomen: then you could see if you'll be able to do a "do-release-upgrade"
[22:50] <Jerub> mun: 'U' means up, 'G' means gateway.
[22:50] <milamber> !recover | Aelingil
[22:51] <Jerub> mun: I would be more interested in the output of 'ip route'
[22:51] <mun> Jerub, ok. i get: default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev usb0  proto static
[22:52] <mun> Jerub, but i'm trying to change it to wlan0
[22:52] <Jerub> mun: ip route replace default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev wlan0
[22:52] <Titomen> imbezol: well i am getting a lot of permissions denied and not fetching error, somebody told me i have to do an upgrade..but i do not want to loose andy of my configurations untill i can do that and have the time to repair i something goes wrong
[22:52] <mun> Jerub, i get "RTNETLINK answers: Operation not permitted"
[22:52] <Jerub> mun: is wlan0 up?
[22:52] <Jerub> you might need to do it as root, of course :)
[22:53] <mun> Jerub, yeah it's up
[22:53] <mun> Jerub, with sudo I get "RTNETLINK answers: No such process"
[22:53] <sn00p> When is the next ubuntus release because unity sucks
[22:53] <imbezol> Titomen: ah.. well i'd be surprised if the CD upgrade way needed to fetch anything
[22:53] <meerkats> i need a command to scan via terminal, maximum size per scanned page: 1Mb
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> sn00p: april this year, it is LTS and has Unity
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> sn00p: try installing XFCE and use that, you don't HAVE TO use Unity
[22:54] <imbezol> Titomen: i could be wrong though.. :)
[22:54] <Jerub> mun: that's very strange. please pastebin the output of 'ip route show table all' and 'ip link' and 'ip addr'
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> sn00p: the package you want for minimal xfce is xfce4
[22:55] <mun> Jerub, sure.
[22:55] <JakeH> Hello, I am a newby at Ubuntu, just started a couple of weeks ago ... I am getting used to the command line but there is still something I don't understand properly: in most guides/manuals/documentation online the instructions about command line actions are always given without "sudo", but when I execute them I usually always get "Permission denied", which I understand, as I need super user priveliges to execute certain actions, but no
[22:55] <meerkats> what will for i in `seq 1 800`; do scanimage > image$i.png; sleep 2; done;
[22:55] <meerkats>  do?
[22:55] <sn00p> Unity is great but it does weird things like  close my terminals and other stuff
[22:55] <mun> Jerub, here you go: http://pastebin.com/gsFA07vL
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> JakeH: is your user in the admin group?
[22:55] <JakeH> not mention "sudo", while on command line, it is required? I was under the impression logging in as a super user is a bad idea and you should (almost) always opt for sudo as it is safer. Could someone explain this to me?
[22:56] <zorklat> Grub hanged on boot; unknown file system.
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: scan 800 images afaik, with the filename having the number, with a 2 second pause between
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> JakeH: once the OS is setup, you will need it very rarely
[22:57] <Wargasm> sn00p: like ActionParsnip said, you're not stuck to Unity... there are many other environments to choose from... I like LXDE myself
[22:57] <meerkats> "for i in `seq 1 80`; do scanimage > image$i.png; sleep 4; done;" where should I specify the output format? png, jpg
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> Wargasm: lxde +1
[22:57] <meerkats> a sorry
[22:57] <meerkats> re read it
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: ;)
[22:57] <JakeH> hmm, I got disconnected, did anyone answer my question yet?
[22:57] <meerkats> ActionParsnip, how do I limit the size to 1 MB maximum?
[22:58] <ratcheer> I am giving gnome-shell a long tryout.
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: not sure
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> JakeH: yes, I replied
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> JakeH: once you setup the OS, sudo is used very rarely
[22:58] <cypher-neo> ratcheer, Need any help with gnome-shell?
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> JakeH: is your user in the admin group?
[22:58] <Jerub> mun: okay, so you're on a different /24 on the wlan and the usb devices.
[22:59] <sn00p> ActionParsnip, how do I switch environments ? and which ones are there
[22:59] <JakeH> ActionParsnip, I am guessing it is not, I am using a fresh install and didn't really do anything to my user after that ...
[22:59] <zorklat> where can I go for help with grub>?  I'm getting "hd0: out of disk" and "unknown file system" instead.
[22:59] <mun> Jerub, ah right. so is there anything i should do differently?
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> sn00p: log off and you choose it at login screen using cog
[22:59] <Jerub> mun: and you've got a dud route on the wlan0 device without a gateway, remove that first.
[22:59] <JakeH> ActionParsnip, as I said, I am still a nooby so I must be missing that, and that's probably why I'm sudo' ing all the time
[22:59] <Jerub> ip route delete default
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> JakeH: if you run:  groups     what is output?
[22:59] <Jerub> mun: you need to find the ip of the gateway on the wireless network, and use that.
[22:59] <Jerub> ip route add default via $correct_ip dev wlan0
[23:00] <psusi> zorklat, sounds like your drive is borked... can you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -lu?
[23:00] <mun> Jerub, where $correct_ip is <IP_ADDRESS>?
[23:00] <ratcheer> cypher-neo: No thanks. Everyone was just talking about what DE's they are using.
[23:00] <JakeH> ActionParsnip, well, it says I am part of it ...
[23:00] <bencc> what file should I edit to add something to a user's PATH?
[23:00] <Jerub> mun: unknown, that's your network, but that's in the right range.
[23:00] <Jerub> er, not the right range.
[23:00] <cypher-neo> ratcheer, Ah! I use GNOME-Shell as well. :)
[23:01] <Jerub> it's got to be 192.168.1.XX
[23:01] <JakeH> ActionParsnip, my name and then: adm, dialout, cdrom, plugdev, lpadmin, admin, sambashare ...
[23:01] <mun> Jerub, hmm how do I find out the right gateway ip?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> JakeH: then sudo will work, type your password (you will get no feedback) and hit ENTER and you can run admin tasks and get all the access you need
[23:01] <psusi> bencc, their ~/.profile
[23:01] <Jerub> anyway, someone got a hint on where i can apt-get a 3.1 or 3.2 kernel from?
[23:01] <Jerub> mun: dhcp is a popular way :)
[23:01] <Jerub> which should autoconfigure everyting :)
[23:02] <bencc> psusi:  thanks
[23:02] <JakeH> ActionParsnip, I can do everything, it's just that I have to do "sudo" in front of (almost) every command I do ... while in online guides etc you never see sudo in the command ...
[23:03] <mun> Jerub, ok i'd better install it
[23:03] <zorklat> what's the preferred pastebin?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> JakeH: some commands don't need it, you only need sudo to change tings outside of your home folder, like updates and so on
[23:03] <cypher-neo> zorklat, Any pastebin that doesn't multiline it in chat.
[23:03] <JakeH> ActionParsnip, for example, when I want to edit a file I'd have to do sudo nano ... instead of just nano, when I want to install a package with apt-get I' ll have to do sudo, removing, renaming, moving, all that requires sudo. Is that how it's supposed to be?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> zorklat: any, one isn't preferred over aother
[23:04] <JakeH> ActionParsnip, ah, that's probably why then, I've been mostly working in a folder I created in my root for development (switched to linux for development purposes)
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> JakeH: if you are using nano to edit outside of home then yes, you will need sudo
[23:04] <Wargasm> JakeH: I think I sudo everything also lol
[23:04] <zorklat> ok, fdisk lu at http://pastebin.com/bxcniRpJ
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> JakeH: if you run:  sudo -i     you will get an (i)nteractive sudo and not have to type it until you type:  exit
[23:05] <psusi> zorklat, holy crap, why so many partitions? ;)
[23:05] <JakeH> ActionParsnip, so for that terminal session I am root so to say?
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> JakeH: effectively, yes
[23:05] <zorklat> 4 distros w/ /boot, /, and /home and one for wine, and one for all my files.
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> JakeH: but its slightly easier to break your OS
[23:06] <alien2050> ne1 knows if (and where) I can configure my X session to start on a specific display ie CTRL-ALT-F3 for example ?
[23:06] <JakeH> ActionParsnip, thanks a bunch for clearing that up for me ... I was thinking I was doing something wrong for a moment. And yeah, I read about super user and why you should avoid being a permanent super user (breaking OS indeed)
[23:07] <alien2050> instead of ctrl-alt-f7 which is default...
[23:07] <JakeH> ActionParsnip, one more thing though, is it normal that apt-get/cache etc require sudo too?
[23:07] <psusi> zorklat, goodness!  why not share one /home?  or use LVM to manage that second disk as well?  anyhow, which one is the boot drive?  also let's get some more info... download and run this script and pastebin the results plz: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/
[23:07] <mun> Jerub, thanks a lot for the help
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> JakeH: yes as the command updates the files for your apps, which are outside your home
[23:08] <zorklat> sdb is boot drive.
[23:08] <CharminTheMoose> Why does upstart have .conf files for mounting sys and proc, when the initrd does it already?
[23:08] <CharminTheMoose> running 11.04 here
[23:08] <Titomen> imbezol: but you agree that will be good to have an image of it before doing that?
[23:08] <JakeH> ActionParsnip, aha ok, yeah figured as much, just wanted to check! Thanks :-) I will be off doing some more nooby nerdy stuff now :P
[23:09] <sn00p> ActionParsnip, if I chose something else than unity will gnome still be the main one?
[23:09] <charly_> hi all
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> sn00p: if you log into XFCE, XFCE will be the 'main one' but your gnome apps will be runnable
[23:09] <dannelSOPA> halo
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> sn00p: xfce is made using gtk too....
[23:10] <charly_> first time using xchat
[23:10] <dannelSOPA> charly_, congrats
[23:10] <hydrox24> charly_: congratz!
[23:10] <charly_> tnx!!! XD
[23:10] <hydrox24> dannelSOPA: jynx
[23:11] <dannelSOPA> :b
[23:11] <charly_> what for it?
[23:11] <hydrox24> charly_: so what ta here for?
[23:11] <charly_> what does it mean - ta?
[23:11] <hydrox24> charly_: typo
[23:11] <hydrox24> I meant "ya"
[23:12] <hydrox24> as in "you"
[23:12] <zorklat> psusi, here you go:  http://pastebin.com/1qjfuQyA
[23:13] <hydrox24> well, I gotta go, cya all!
[23:15] <charly_> where are you came frome?
[23:15] <mun> Jerub, although i can change it with your command, it reverts back to usb0 after a bit for some reason.
[23:16] <psusi> zorklat, it looks like you installed grub using blocklists... you sholdn't do that... you might want to reinstall grub
[23:16] <zorklat> psusi, ok, how would I do that from the live disk?
[23:17] <psusi> zorklat, which install do you want to own grub?
[23:18] <zorklat> psusi, ubuntu.  is this thread on the right track?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[23:20] <psusi> zorklat, that's a very large and old thread, but if it tells you to mount your root fs ( of whichever OS you want to own grub ), chroot into it, and run grub-install, then that's what you need to do ;)
[23:20] <psusi> zorklat, run grub-install /dev/sdb that is
[23:21]  * zorklat goes off to learn about chroot.
[23:22] <psusi> zorklat, also if your ubuntu install is in an lvm volume, you'll need to install the lvm2 packge on the livecd to recognize it
[23:22] <zorklat> psusi, nope, no lvm
[23:22] <mvdk> What's the process for submitting a new package?  I have packaged JBIG-KIT in a PPA, and wish to submit it
[23:22] <psusi> zorklat, hrm... which partition is your ubuntu install that you want to be the main os?
[23:23] <zorklat> psusi, sdb3.
[23:24] <psusi> zorklat, hrm... beause the grub currently installed is looking for a volume with a uuid not found there, so I assume it is an lvm volume that isn't being recognized
[23:25] <mvdk> psusi, grub2 knows how to read LVM - grub does not
[23:25] <zorklat> grrr.  it may be hunting on sda, which ought not be boot flagged at all!
[23:25] <psusi> zorklat, anyhow, mount /dev/sdb3 /mnt, mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev, mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys, mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc, chroot /mnt, then grub-install /dev/sdb should do it
[23:25] <benyuss> hello guys. anybody can help for me? i have issues with my ati radeon 200m card driver.
[23:26] <psusi> mvdk, right
[23:26] <Titomen> imbezol: i just try partimage on systemrescucd, this is what i see i see the sda1 sdb1 sdc1 sda2 sdb2 sdc2 sda5 sdb5 sdc5 sda6 sdb6 sdc6 sda7 sdb7 sdc7 and then i see the md124 md125 md126 md127..which interestly the last one should correspord to the assemby raids md0 md1 md2 md3...Why it has that diefretn configuration and is this something that on retore should be change?
[23:26] <psusi> zorklat, the boot flag only means anything to the dos/windows boot loader
[23:26] <mvdk> benyuss, have you installed the proprietary driver, or the open source one?  And what is the nature of your problem
[23:27] <mvdk> Titomen, the numbers on the mds mean almost nothing on a different installation
[23:28] <mvdk> Titomen, they are assigned by udev
[23:28] <Captain_Crow> hello
[23:28] <benyuss> mvdk: yes i was installed proprietary driver but its looks like doesn't works because when i tried to run ati catalyst center it says i haven't any ati driver so i must to configure with aticonfig or install a driver.. but i was installed it with the catalyst center.
[23:28] <Titomen> mvdk: so when i do a restore of the software raid i can keep the new name md124 or should i change it to what it was md0
[23:28] <Autoeth> hoping someone in here can explain when i issue command ip tunnel add (name of my choice ) i get a new interface but on top of that i also get an automatic interface sit0 why is linux doing this .
[23:29] <zorklat> let this be a lesson to y'all, btw:  do NOT hibernate from LDM with an account logged in!
[23:29] <Captain_Crow> how do i add more sides to the cube in 11.10?
[23:29] <mvdk> Titomen, whatever you put udev will be what you get
[23:29] <mvdk> benyuss, what hardware was it again?
[23:29] <psusi> zorklat, huh?
[23:30] <mvdk> benyuss, What does lspci call it?
[23:30] <benyuss> mvdk: ati radeon 200m
[23:30] <zorklat> psusi, that's when the problems started.
[23:30] <zorklat> psusi, also:  http://pastebin.com/qVhgiajQ
[23:30] <psusi> zorklat, this didn't happen after installing a new os?  that's weird
[23:30] <mvdk> Autoeth, suggest you look at the Documentation directory in the Linux sources.
[23:30] <imbezol> Titomen: it doesn't matter what they show up as in partimage.. they will still be whatever they were originally after restoration
[23:31] <zorklat> psusi, I wound up blanking the entire disk and repartitioning it with cfdisk from the issues arising from trying that.
[23:31] <Titomen> so when i do a complete system backup i should copy eveything, now if i just want ot image the date which is md3 or md127, do i also have to copy sda7 sdb7 sdc7?
[23:31] <psusi> zorklat, ohh, crap... your sdb1 partition starts on sector 30... that's goofy... it should start at least at sector 63, if not 2048
[23:31] <Titomen> sorry the data
[23:32] <oldIT781> Anyone have a minute to help with a Ubuntu 11.04 ati graphics card question?
[23:32] <mvdk> benyuss, does the open driver not work?
[23:32] <psusi> zorklat, maybe you can use gparted to move the start of that partition over a hair?
[23:32] <zorklat> psusi, ok.  well, I'll go and fix that.  there's nothing I'm afraid to lose on sda1, as everything is also on sda.
[23:33] <mvdk> benyuss, see "http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ATI_Mobility_Radeon_Xpress_200M"
[23:33] <zorklat> er, nothing I'm afraid lose on sdb1
[23:33] <mvdk> benyuss, the proprietary driver has not supported your chip for some time now
[23:34] <occupant> So I have some VMs that are going to be fucked-upon-reboot because /boot ran out of space upon a kernel upgrade. If I clear space on /boot and try to reinstall the latest kernel fresh, would I just want the linux-image package or more stuff?
[23:34] <mvdk> benyuss, that driver is by AMD/ATI, and nothing can really be done about it
[23:34] <benyuss> mvdk: i dont know.. i know only 2 things.. : when i enter to the hardware drivers menu it's full empty.. 2: i must to upgrade my driver because sometimes my screen is frozen, at youtube the videos is lagging on 1080p and i cant play with my favourite game.. on windows i haven't these problems:/
[23:35] <PureRumble> Hi all! Running 11.10! I want to have multiple login sessions for the same user, is it possible?
[23:35] <psusi> occupant, good reason not to use a separate /boot partition... yes, reinstalling the linux-image-xxx package should do it
[23:35] <mvdk> benyuss, you could try the latest open source drivers
[23:35] <oldIT781> If I am using the propritary Ati/nvidia drivers with a ati 5750 card does that mean it will still read a xorg.conf file?
[23:35] <mvdk> There is a PPA for them
[23:36] <benyuss> mvdk: where i can find them?
[23:36] <benyuss> mvdk: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ATI_Mobility_Radeon_Xpress_200M it will be doesn't work?
[23:36] <mvdk> benyuss, your googlefu is waning.  I'll google it, but some of what we do is trying to teach you how to catch fish...
[23:37] <mvdk> benyuss, The latest *proprietary* drivers do not work
[23:37]  * oldIT781 looks for a que to stand in.
[23:38] <benyuss> mvdk: ok i see. im looking for an open source driver. pls wait
[23:38] <zorklat> psusi, a few megs should do the trick?
[23:38] <mvdk> benyuss, https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/drivers-only
[23:38] <Myrtti> oldIT781: it will read it if such exists - but it doesn't necessarily do
[23:38] <psusi> zorklat, just one will do... grub needs like 55 sectors or so
[23:39] <Jerub> mun: sounds like you're running NetworkManager or something
[23:39] <mvdk> oldIT781, you're looking for an xorg.conf?  Recent ubuntus don't make one
[23:39] <benyuss> mvdk: which version i need?
[23:39] <oldIT781> Myrtti: Thanks! I just switched from a nvidia card to an ATI card. I used to add a line that inverted my screen.
[23:40] <occupant> ati proprietary would still use xorg.conf
[23:40] <mvdk> benyuss, Sorry, put the wrong thing there, just looked at the dates
[23:40] <oldIT781> mvdk: I just want to have my screen inverted. I can create one using a template from the nvidia xorg.conf i had. I just want to know if its going to break anything.
[23:42] <oldIT781> So for example ... the proprietary ati drivers allow me to invert my screen. but in games it still is not inverted.
[23:42] <zima> o/
[23:42] <oldIT781> adding a line to the xorg.conf file seemed to invert the OS at a deeper level. ... am I correct or way out of line?
[23:42] <zima> ondemand governor failed, too long transition latency of HW, fallback to performance governor; any ideas guys?
[23:43] <zima> or is this unfixed and never-going-to-be-fixed-bug?
[23:43] <psusi> zima, what kind of cpu is this?
[23:43] <mvdk> benyuss, this looks like the place: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[23:43] <zima> celeron M 1.5 (p4 based)
[23:44] <psusi> zima, doesn't support cpufreq
[23:44] <zima> there is a driver and cpufreq-info says: cpufreq stats: 188 MHz:0,00%, 375 MHz:0,00%, 563 MHz:0,00%, 750 MHz:0,00%, 938 MHz:0,00%, 1.13 GHz:0,00%, 1.31 GHz:0,00%, 1.50 GHz:100,00%
[23:44] <mvdk> benyuss, I have used this before, the notice at the top about it setting stuff on fire isn't quite right, but it isn't guaranteed to work, either ;-)
[23:44] <zima> psusi: Ōåæ
[23:44] <psusi> zima, what's the driver?
[23:45] <psusi> zima, is it p4-clockmod?
[23:45] <zima> p4_clockmod
[23:45] <psusi> zima, it's bogus... the cpu doesn't support cpu frequency scaling
[23:45] <html> how  do i add a account?
[23:45] <zima> psusi: i see
[23:45] <mvdk> What's the process for submitting a new package?  I have packaged JBIG-KIT in a PPA, and wish to submit it.
[23:45] <zima> i'm fscked then
[23:45] <oldIT781> does anyone know if the xorg.conf line "RandRRotation" will work with the proprietary ATI driver?
[23:45] <psusi> zima, why do you say that?
[23:46] <benyuss> mvdk: if i will install it my video performance will be as on windows? so i will can run 1080p videos without lag?
[23:46] <mvdk> oldIT781: Why not try it?
[23:46] <zima> psusi: i've read that it's a kernel bug and i even compiled 3.2.1 kernel on this machine, it took more than 2 hours
[23:46] <mvdk> benyuss: No one can say for sure - I don't use an X200M
[23:46] <zima> so it's impossible
[23:46] <zima> i should come here and ask in the first place
[23:47] <benyuss> mvdk: ok thank you so much. you helped a lot !:)
[23:47] <jurua> hi
[23:47] <zima> psusi: kthx
[23:47] <jurua> you
[23:47] <psusi> zima, nope, not a bug... that driver doesn't actually scale the cpu frequency, it just stalls the cpu part of the time... so they intentionally made the scaling governor refuse to use it
[23:47] <oldIT781> mvdk: because im scared my display wont work.
[23:47] <mvdk> benyuss: No probs
[23:47] <mvdk> oldIT781: And it will enter low-res mode
[23:47] <mvdk> oldIT781: Where the problem?
[23:48] <jurua> you
[23:48] <html> how  do i add a account?
[23:48] <oldIT781> mvdk: so your saying even if it doesnt work, i can still get into low graphic mode. correct?
[23:48] <mvdk> oldIT781: Yep
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> html: account for what?
[23:48] <jurua> apt-get install
[23:48] <DIL> adduser
[23:48] <mvdk> oldIT781: And if X doesn't start, Ctrl-Alt-F1 gets you a text terminal
[23:49] <catno7> does ubuntu 11.10 have compiz? my windows blink when I move them and lag
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> catno7: yes it does
[23:49]  * oldIT781 bows to mvdk. thanks ill give it a try.
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> catno7: I assume you mean gnome based Ubuntu...
[23:49] <zima> psusi: actually, scaling is possible but only ondemand governor fails
[23:51] <psusi> zima, nope, it's not... the p4-clockmod driver is a farse.. it doesn't actually change the cpu frequency, just forces it to halt for part of the time, so it feels slower, but does't save any power, in fact, it uses more
[23:51] <oldIT781> mvdk: Since i will be creating a xorg.conf ... do i need to do anything special while creating it? or could i just use gedit and make sure it gets in the right directory?
[23:51] <zima> psusi: i'll prove you that it's possible in a moment
[23:52] <mvdk> oldIT781: gedit is your friend, but it needs to be written as a privileged user
[23:52] <zima> unless /prc/cpuinfo lies
[23:52] <html> ActionParsnip,  just for ubuntu  , my gf wants to get on but i dont want to give admin rights , just a web based account
[23:52] <mvdk> oldIT781: Remember, nano or vi are text editors if you have an issue later and you're in text mode
[23:52] <oldIT781> mvdk: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf      would that work?
[23:52] <mvdk> oldIT781: Yes
[23:53] <oldIT781> great thanks.
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> html: sudo adduser name      change name for her name, she will not be in the admin group by default
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> oldIT781: gksudo for gedit, not sudo
[23:53] <mvdk> ActionParsnip: sudo works just fine for it
[23:53] <oldIT781> ActionParsnip: whats the difference?
[23:53] <mvdk> ActionParsnip: Instead of getting a dialogue, you get a text prompt for password
[23:54] <psusi> zima, see kernel commit e088e4c9cd, they intentionally prevented it from being used any more and it is scheduled to be removed
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> oldIT781:  mvdk: it doesn't setup the environment correctly, you can damage the ownership of ~/.ICEauthority
[23:54] <diverdude> if i have a symb link and i do rm symblinkname...its only the link thats removed and not what it points to right?
[23:54] <zima> psusi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/809191/
[23:54] <html> Enter new UNIX password...... whats this ?
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> html: set the password for the account...
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> html: isn't that clear?
[23:55] <zima> psusi: you mean what will be removed? p4_clockmod?
[23:55] <psusi> zima, yes.. the reduced frequency is a lie
[23:55] <html> ActionParsnip,  ive never done this or seen this before
[23:55] <Titomen> imbezol: so to do a complete image of the system...i have to copy all of them into an external drive
[23:56] <zima> psusi: show the link please
[23:56] <psusi> zima, here's the full commit msg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/809193/
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> !gksudo | html
[23:56] <html> ActionParsnip,  i always do it with a gui
[23:56] <Myrtti> http://www.khanacademy.org/video/sopa-and-pipa?playlist=American+Civics
[23:56] <zima> psusi: ok, fair enough
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> html: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/112187
[23:57] <zima> psusi: but what's the link to the original post?
[23:58] <psusi> zima, huh?
[23:58] <zima> ah, nvm
[23:58] <mvdk> ActionParsnip: I didn't know that, thanks :)
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> mvdk: np, the kde equiv is kdesu
[23:58] <psusi> zima, I pulled it out of my local git repo, but you can look it up on git.kernel.org I suppose
[23:59]  * psusi LOVES git
[23:59] <mvdk> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I don't use kde - it usually sucks balls :)
[23:59] <html> ActionParsnip,  thanks alot!!!
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> mvdk: I find it better than the current gnome setup
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> html: np :)
[23:59] <mvdk> ActionParsnip: And it seems to have some obsession with JACK
[23:59] <zima> psusi: kthx
[23:59] <mvdk> ActionParsnip: And so no sound stuff ever works right