[02:04] <gnomefreak> ne0h: did you install it?
[02:04] <redguy> !tell ne0h about iso
[02:04] <ne0h> ill try that
[02:04] <jpederzolli> whats the best itunes alternative?
[02:04] <BlueSwirl> poje, lol
[02:04] <r0xoR> every time i select a package to install in synaptic i get a warning dialog saying "NOT AUTHENTICATED"
[02:04] <skippy81> poje:  to be honest i dont use that media much myself, but i guess if you do use proprietary codecs to listen to it, then it doesnt make you a bad person :) but then again things would be better if users in genral rejected such codecs so we could all listen freely and easily
[02:04] <bkudria> poje: i looked, but there really isn't a solution that helps
[02:04] <troy_s> jpederzolli:  there are HUNDREDS
[02:04] <redguy> ne0h: read the second link about burning the iso
[02:04] <[arcane] > jpederzolli, if you use gnome banshee
[02:04] <poje> Demential: mplayer or VLC ;)
[02:04] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jpederzolli about ipod
[02:04] <troy_s> jpederzolli:  try rhytmbox default until you don't like it
[02:04] <nalioth> i have been hit with the dns name resolution bug, anyone got the fix right off the top of their heads?
[02:04] <r0xoR> i looked under the authentication tab in the repo setup for synaptic
[02:04] <r0xoR> and it's blank
[02:04] <troy_s> ubotu, tell me about ipod
[02:04] <poje> bkudria: yeah, hence keep an eye on the wiki/forums :)
[02:04] <jpederzolli> thanks
[02:04] <adam> how do u get the xmms volume control to work?
[02:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell troy_s about msg the bot
[02:05] <[arcane] > adam, alsamixer
[02:05] <adam> k
[02:05] <gnomefreak> shoot bbl bad storm rolling in
[02:05] <Demential> poje:  vlc is a sl*t hehe...  but mplayer short for movieplayer?
[02:05] <troy_s> vlc is very good
[02:05] <troy_s> mplayer is mplayer
[02:05] <Demential> k thanks troy
[02:05] <troy_s> mplayer is a VERY powerful tool.
[02:05] <Demential> ill dig it up
[02:05] <BlueSwirl> consider vlc seconded
[02:05] <bullrage> What's the best newsgroup NZB reader?
[02:05] <troy_s> mplayer make no mistake.  as is vlc
[02:05] <skippy81> ok we need to establish a fix for this DNS bug people are talking about, ive heard it mentioned several times today - does anyone know anything about it?
[02:06] <poje> skippy81: yes, I would be a lot happier with free/open *; however, I try to pick my fights - support free options whenever possible, crumble before the man when I'm being a little biatch ;o/
[02:06] <poje> and with that, it's dinner time
[02:06] <Demential> ya...  i've been in love with videolan for years now
[02:06] <troy_s> mplayer they both have their upsides -- vlc for streaming and mplayer for video adjusting.
[02:06] <nalioth> skippy81: i can ping IPs fine, just no name resolution
[02:06] <Demential> makes me horny like no women can
[02:06] <BlueSwirl> Demential, o_0
[02:06] <Demential> wait...  ignore that
[02:06] <Demential> kik'
[02:06] <troy_s> skippy:  is it at malone?
[02:06] <skippy81> nalioth, yeah i spoke to others with same problem - are you a) behind a router, and b) on a live CD?
[02:06] <MaKkY> i made a partition.. & i want to install XP on that partition....
[02:06] <troy_s> malone #
[02:07] <MaKkY> how do i go about doing that?
[02:07] <obviouslytom> anyone know why Ubuntu doesnt support Intels HyperThreading?
[02:07] <troy_s> ubotu malone 8190
[02:07] <[arcane] > MaKkY, should install MS first
[02:07] <skippy81> troy_s:  excuse my ignorance, what is malone?
[02:07] <nalioth> skippy81: i've got more computers than i know what to do with, behind a router
[02:07] <ubotu> Malone: Bug #8190 in debian-installer (Ubuntu): No keymap selection.
[02:07] <beerockxs> troy_s: It worked just fine about a month ago, before I updated to Dapper. DRI is workig, too, and glxgears does not show the flickering
[02:07] <troy_s> skippy:  launchpad malone, you know.
[02:07] <troytroy> hi i need a bittorrent with a gui
[02:07] <skippy81> oh i will check
[02:07] <[arcane] > troytroy, man
[02:07] <troytroy> dont like azerus
[02:07] <troy_s> troytroy:  apt-cache search torrent
[02:07] <[arcane] > troytroy, there are tons use synaprics
[02:07] <troy_s> troytroy:  try bittornado
[02:07] <[arcane] > rtorrent is the best
[02:07] <bullrage> What's the best newsgroup NZB reader?
[02:07] <jrsims> ok, how come my function keys aren't recognized in Gnome terminal?>
[02:08] <troy_s> troytroy:  it gets religious
[02:08] <redguy> nalioth, skippy81 : isn't it related to this fancy resolvconf thing which is supposed to generate /etc/resolv.conf ?
[02:08] <theBeno> Guys, I've got a question...Why do you guys prefer ubuntu over other distros like Gentoo?
[02:08] <nalioth> redguy: it is related to resolv.conf, i just don't know what to do about it
[02:08] <[arcane] > theBeno, i dont
[02:08] <wubrgamer> hey guys, i can't find my networking interface list, could someone give me the file path ? i'm a n00b and forgot
[02:08] <BlueSwirl> is there limewire for linux? i'm rather fond of that for my mac
[02:08] <troy_s> thebeno:  off topic.  it has a chance to actually make open source mainstream.
[02:08] <wubrgamer> ubuntu is easier, and better developed
[02:08] <[arcane] > BlueSwirl, yes
[02:08] <r0xoR> BlueSwirl, limewire is java
[02:08] <redguy> nalioth: is your resolv.conf empty now?
[02:08] <bobstro> theBeno:  because it's a debian underneath.
[02:08] <skippy81> redguy, well tahts what i thought at first
[02:08] <[arcane] > wubrgamer, better developed
[02:08] <r0xoR> BlueSwirl, and there is java for linux
[02:08] <_jason> BlueSwirl: there is, but I would reocmmend frostwire which is a limewire clone instead
[02:08] <[arcane] > no
[02:08] <wubrgamer> hey guys, i can't find my networking interface list, could someone give me the file path ? i'm a n00b and forgot
[02:08] <wubrgamer> hey guys, i can't find my networking interface list, could someone give me the file path ? i'm a n00b and forgot
[02:08] <wubrgamer> hey guys, i can't find my networking interface list, could someone give me the file path ? i'm a n00b and forgot
[02:08] <r0xoR> BlueSwirl, so yes
[02:08] <BlueSwirl> ah, shiny
[02:08] <wubrgamer> sorry didn 't mean to spam
[02:09] <BlueSwirl> duly noted ;-)
[02:09] <_jason> ubotu: tell BlueSwirl about frostwire
[02:09] <nalioth> redguy: haven't even looked yet
[02:09] <theBeno> bobstro, and you prefer the debian distro?
[02:09] <BigBlue> hi, how do i start apache when i used apt-get to install it?
[02:09] <[arcane] > wubrgamer, and you say ubuntu is better wtf lol
[02:09] <redguy> wubrgamer: /etc/network/interfaces
[02:09] <_jason> BigBlue: it should start automatically
[02:09] <wubrgamer> thnx
[02:09] <troy_s> ubotu, bugs are at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[02:09] <jrsims> Seriously - is anyone else having trouble getting F1-F12 keys to work in Gnome terminal?
[02:09] <bobstro> theBeno:  i prefer distributions *based* on debian, yes.
[02:09] <maikol> BigBlue: /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[02:09] <wubrgamer> once more "n00b"
[02:09] <BigBlue> ty
[02:09] <wubrgamer> don't listen to me
[02:09] <theBeno> bobstro, Why?
[02:10] <Tuzlo> how do you stop inetutils from trying to runsomething?
[02:10] <[arcane] > theBeno, gentoo is good for hardcore ppl
[02:10] <bobstro> theBeno:  because i suffered through rpm hell for long enough until i found debian some years ago.
[02:10] <troy_s> what is the dns issue skippy?
[02:10] <MaKkY> arcane, how...
[02:10] <bobstro> theBeno:  and don't have time for gentoo. :)
[02:10] <theBeno> bobstro, Why not use Slackware or other distros?
[02:10] <[arcane] > MaKkY, cause you can run unstable and stable
[02:10] <troy_s> ubotu, malone 35732
[02:10] <nalioth> troy_s: ubotu knows bugs
[02:10] <obviouslytom> anyone know if Ubuntu supports Intels HyperThreading
[02:10] <bobstro> theBeno:  but linux is linux. it's a question of install and maintenance.
[02:10] <[arcane] > MaKkY, cant do that in debian
[02:10] <ubotu> Malone: Bug #35732 in dhcp3 (Ubuntu): Weird dhcp errors
[02:10] <nalioth> troy_s: /msg ubotu bugs
[02:10] <troytroy> seems bittorrent-gui is no more in the repos
[02:11] <bobstro> theBeno:  i have.
[02:11] <nalioth> troy_s: woops, /msg ubotu bug
[02:11] <MaKkY> [arcane]  but how do i install MS first?
[02:11] <ne0h> hey
[02:11] <Tuzlo> !inetutils
[02:11] <ubotu> Tuzlo: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:11] <ne0h> i cant get ubuntu to work
[02:11] <[arcane] > MaKkY, install it then install ubuntu
[02:11] <Phuzion> Where are the error logs for Apache in Ubuntu?
[02:11] <theBeno> I use Gentoo because I have the choice to do anything, built it how I want.  apt-get is on ubuntu?
[02:11] <[arcane] > ne0h, what did you use to burn it
[02:11] <ne0h> a dvd
[02:11] <MaKkY> [arcane]  im on ubuntu right now....
[02:11] <maikol> Phuzion: /var/log/apache2
[02:11] <Phuzion> thanks
[02:11] <[arcane] > ne0h, no
[02:11] <redguy> Phuzion: /var/log/apache2/
[02:11] <ne0h> deepburnner
[02:11] <[arcane] > ne0h, im mean what app
[02:12] <ne0h> burner
[02:12] <bobstro> theBeno:  you can do the same with *any* distribution. it's a question of how much time you want to spend doing it (if at all).
[02:12] <ne0h> deepburner
[02:12] <ne0h> burnt the iso on the cd
[02:12] <[arcane] > ne0h, did you burn it as a iso or just as data
[02:12] <ne0h> as a iso
[02:12] <redguy> ne0h: did you read the burniso link ubotu sent you?
[02:12] <ne0h> i didnt get it
[02:12] <bobstro> theBeno:  most distros seem to be moving towards each other in many ways.
[02:12] <beerockxs> I'm experiencing strange flickering in the 3d screensavers, using a Radeon 8500 and the open source drivers. Anyone have an idea?
[02:12] <theBeno> Yeah, emerge is a sweet system though.  bobstro, you prefer apt-get over emerge?
[02:12] <redguy> ne0h: what are the contenst of the dvd right now?
[02:12] <jrsims> OK PLEASE HELP - I need to get X to recognize my function keys. How do I do that.
[02:12] <ne0h> in my cd driver
[02:13] <[arcane] > jrsims, google it dude
[02:13] <troy_s> jrsims:  does your keyboard have a F-lock on it?
[02:13] <molinero> Hi to all
[02:13] <ne0h> oh i mean just the iso
[02:13] <[arcane] > ne0h, cds cant read dvds
[02:13] <Rob3rth> anyone got an alternative to #cedega? I am banned there without any reasons, ive never been on that channel:(
[02:13] <jrsims> troy_s: no
[02:13] <bobstro> theBeno:  you'll notice they're changing how gentoo installs, right?
[02:13] <ne0h> its a dvd cd
[02:13] <theBeno> bobstro, Yes, they have a GUI for x86
[02:13] <redguy> ne0h: ok, what's on the dvd?
[02:13] <jrsims> troy_s: it's a standard dell keyboard
[02:13] <ne0h> i have a dvd wrighter
[02:13] <ne0h> just the iso
[02:13] <ne0h> thats it
[02:13] <redguy> ne0h: a single .iso file?
[02:13] <ne0h> yea
[02:13] <[arcane] > bobstro, its not a standard gi installer
[02:13] <redguy> !tell ne0h about iso
[02:13] <shinu> how do i get xmms to play audio cds?
[02:14] <redguy> ne0h: read the second link
[02:14] <nalioth> ah ha, my resolve.conf has my nameserver on my own system.  no wonder
[02:14] <troy_s> shinu:  iirc you need your audio cable from your board to your drive to hear them.
[02:14] <troy_s> shinu:  other than that it should just play
[02:14] <bobstro> theBeno:  when someone can tell me one thing i can do with one distro over another, i'll worry more about it. meanwhile, ubuntu is mostly debian, and easy to show others, and quick to install and reconfigure on my stuff.
[02:14] <gil_> could someone tell me how to install bootsplash screens
[02:14] <shinu> troy_s: something worng with the cd then :/ thx
[02:14] <distanceisdeath> how can i play m4a files on XMMS, i can play them on amarok and other things though.
[02:15] <troy_s> bobstro:  well said.  AND it is going to get sun official head nod
[02:15] <theBeno> bobstro, But there are problems if you try and update the entire system using apt-get.
[02:15] <Gretyl> anyone want to help me with mac-on-linux?
[02:15] <troy_s> shinu:  yah it should just work.  make sure you have your audio cable though!
[02:15] <troy_s> gretyl:  what is mac on linux?  you want to emulate mac?
[02:15] <Tuzlo> Do I need Inetutils installed?
[02:15] <[zero] > is there a way to get rpm to work in ubuntu?
[02:15] <zexr0> is there a way to see if a device is detected on my usb port
[02:15] <nbx909> Gretyl, you mean linux on mac?
[02:16] <BlueSwirl> nbx909, no, mac-on-linux lets you run osx inside linux.
[02:16] <troy_s> zero:  alien
[02:16] <Krhis2> Ok, my question is simple: Ext3 or ReiserFS? I've spent the last few hours looking at statistics, numbers, and articals where one user reports one thing and the next user states something completely contridictive but what do you guys think?
[02:16] <Krhis2> ReiserFS might seem faster (at least for /home) but is it worth the risk of corruption/recovery even though it's still journalized?
[02:16] <nbx909> BlueSwirl, oh cool
[02:16] <beerockxs> I'm experiencing strange flickering in the 3d screensavers, using a Radeon 8500 and the open source drivers. Anyone have an idea?
[02:16] <ne0h> screw this
[02:16] <BlueSwirl> nbx909, it's most sexy, but not used it myself
[02:16] <bobstro> theBeno:  there *can* be problems, but trivial compared to others i've had with non-debian systems. *and* (again) i can show others how to do it.
[02:16] <jrsims> troy_s: do you know how I can change my keyboard settings for xorg?
[02:16] <nbx909> BlueSwirl, why not run it natively lol
[02:16] <Gretyl> nbx909: I could, but I specifically refer to the ability to boot OS X inside of linux
[02:16] <troy_s> beerrockxs:  you could try syncing to vert
[02:16] <[zero] > troy_s: alien?
[02:16] <ne0h> i cant get this to work at all
[02:17] <bobstro> theBeno:  my server has been upgraded via apt-get for oh... 5+ years now.
[02:17] <troy_s> zero:  alien
[02:17] <redguy> Krhis2: ext3 isn't immune to corruptions as well
[02:17] <BlueSwirl> nbx909, that's what my other machine is for. ;-)
[02:17] <beerockxs> troy_s: how do i set that?
[02:17] <bobstro> ne0h:  what?
[02:17] <nbx909> heh
[02:17] <ne0h> i cant get the iso to work
[02:17] <nbx909> i need a mac
[02:17] <[zero] > troy_s:  what do you mean?
[02:17] <nbx909> lol
[02:17] <ne0h> i did everything i was supposed to
[02:17] <Krhis2> Apprently it's easier to recover.
[02:17] <troy_s> beer:  should be able to do it via xorg.
[02:17] <ne0h> it still dosent work
[02:17] <Gretyl> I'm dual-booting now
[02:17] <troy_s> zero:  wiki alien
[02:17] <ne0h> im going to try to make a different cd
[02:17] <BlueSwirl> nbx909, once you go mac, you never go back ;-)
[02:17] <Shooksterleet> I've got a emachines m5310 notebook with the broadcom bcm4401 network card. It's my understanding that it should have detected/install it on it's own but it didn't.. Any suggestions for how to procede?
[02:17] <Gretyl> just thought this might help with the whole "no flash plugin" issue
[02:17] <green_earz> Krhis2: from what i read Ext3  is best for large file and ReiserFS for lots of small files
[02:17] <shodanjr_gr> ffs....
[02:17] <bobstro> theBeno:  quick question. how long did your last major upgrade take?
[02:17] <troytroy> hi my irssi cant start
[02:18] <shodanjr_gr> i get my wlan card installed
[02:18] <nbx909> BlueSwirl, once you go mac you go broke :P
[02:18] <shodanjr_gr> i get it to detect my access point
[02:18] <seife> Someone help me
[02:18] <[zero] > troy_s: kk
[02:18] <zexr0> Someone can help me with a SmartJoy problem ?
[02:18] <shodanjr_gr> i give it my WEP key
[02:18] <seife> How do i mount my windows partition?
[02:18] <shodanjr_gr> and it doesnt connect...
[02:18] <bobstro> nbx909:  and steve jobs owns your soul.
[02:18] <BlueSwirl> nbx909, tell me about it. anyone want a kidney? ;-)
[02:18] <shinu> troy_s: its a laptop so it should all be hooked up already
[02:18] <amac-laptop> does the default ubuntu kernel support smp?
[02:18] <Krhis2> green_earz, Ext3 is kinda more of a jack-of-all-trades.
[02:18] <redguy> !tell seife about ntfs
[02:18] <nbx909> BlueSwirl, rofl
[02:18] <Krhis2> But you're right.
[02:18] <troy_s> shinu:  right you are.  could be any number of issues.  see if you can get A cd to play.
[02:18] <theBeno> bobstro, lol, a while, but I can just do it when I go to bed, never wasted any time that I needed to use the computer.
[02:19] <bobstro> theBeno:  and if you had to upgrade several?
[02:19] <shinu> Toba: okay
[02:19] <Krhis2> Anyone ever have ReiserFS go 'sour' on them?
[02:19] <troytroy> hi my irssi cant start "Unable to connect server ... "
[02:19] <bobstro> theBeno:  my family uses four, plus server.
[02:19] <Gretyl> in theory, the kernel modules needed for mac-on-linux should be built into dapper...
[02:19] <shodanjr_gr> and i am stupid
[02:19] <Gretyl> but when I try to startmol, it complains about missing modules
[02:19] <shodanjr_gr> because
[02:19] <shodanjr_gr> i was giving it the WEP key in plaintext while the type was set to HEX
[02:19] <troy_s> gretyl:  try a sep drive and boot clean.
[02:20] <theBeno> bobstro, hmm
[02:20] <troy_s> gretyl:  they are all of about 40 bucks these days and they save a ton of hassle.
[02:20] <jrsims> oh my god - does ANYONE in here know how I can get back to my keyboard setup for xorg?
[02:20] <troy_s> jrsims:  you can reconfigure x
[02:20] <nbx909> !tell jrsims about reconfigurex
[02:20] <troy_s> jrsims:  dpkg-rconfigure xorg-server (can't remember)
[02:20] <bobstro> theBeno:  this sums it up for me (with a bit of humor) http://funroll-loops.org/
[02:20] <jrsims> ok
[02:21] <Krhis2> !tell Krhis2 about reiserfs
[02:21] <Dubuntu> "Doo-buntu"
[02:21] <theBeno> lol, ok
[02:21] <nbx909> !reconfigurex
[02:21] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, run the command         sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:21] <Gretyl> troy_s: I just installed dapper yesterday, shouldn't need a fresh install already...
[02:21] <Krhis2> !tell Krhis2 about ext3
[02:21] <troy_s> gretyl:  then i misunderstand your question
[02:21] <josepena> hola
[02:21] <Krhis2> ^^
[02:21] <josepena> buenas tardes
[02:21] <troy_s> gretyl:  try me again maybe
[02:21] <nalioth> skippy81: for some reason, dapper decided to point my nameservers in resolv.conf to 10.0.*
[02:21] <josepena> alguien en espaol
[02:21] <troy_s> gretyl:  grey matter might work better this time.
[02:22] <Gretyl> troy_s: I'm having trouble starting up mac-on-linux
[02:22] <redguy> !tell Krhis2 about msg the bot
[02:22] <Krhis2> Thanks.
[02:22] <Madpilot> !es
[02:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:22] <troy_s> gretyl:  what is that?  you mean you are having trouble booting your machine running linux that happens to be motorola / ppc powerd?
[02:22] <Krhis2> But has anyone ever have ReiserFS go 'sour' on them?
[02:22] <dou213> !ro
[02:22] <ubotu> dou213: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:22] <Krhis2> Apperintly it's messey to recover?
[02:23] <skippy81> nalioth ive been searching the bugs about it - thres definately something fishy up with resolv.conf.  I think dapper holds on to the configuration despite the DHCP lease it recieved them from expiring
[02:23] <troy_s> gretyl:  last time a checked a 'mac' was nothing more than a motorola / ibm chip with a bunch of other garbage components.
[02:23] <Gretyl> troy_s: no, mac-on-linux is an environment where a PPC machine booted into Linux should be able to load Mac OS X inside a window
[02:23] <troy_s> gretyl:  ahhhhh....
[02:23] <skippy81> nalioth, for now you will just have to update the file yourself i gues
[02:23] <troy_s> gretyl:  probably not the _defacto_ forum for mac questions.
[02:23] <nalioth> skippy81: well, personally, i may just set my resolv.conf readonly
[02:23] <troy_s> gretyl:  linux yes.
[02:24] <wangy> o~~~~~~~
[02:24] <troy_s> gretyl:  but when you get back into mac, you are begging for pain.
[02:24] <Gretyl> well, it's the linux pkg that's failing me
[02:24] <Gretyl> not the mac part
[02:24] <josepena> hola
[02:24] <troy_s> gretyl:  um does linux boot?
[02:24] <Gretyl> yep
[02:24] <troy_s> gretyl:  then it is the mac part.
[02:24] <skippy81> nalioth, let me know if that works
[02:24] <nalioth> skippy81: most of my fixes are not for the faint-hearted <EG>
[02:24] <troy_s> gretyl:  but as i said, you might not get specific help here.
[02:24] <skippy81> i will recommend it to others if does
[02:24] <redguy> nalioth, skippy81 , also you can edit /etc/resolvconf.d/base and put the nameservers in there
[02:24] <Jeeves_Moss> all:  well, its been fun guys, but I'm outta here.
[02:24] <nalioth> redguy: ah, a much better suggestion, thank you
[02:25] <robochief> Will Ubuntu 6.06 work on a Celeron 500MHz with 128MB of RAM?
[02:25] <bobstro> theBeno:  ok, which is you? :)
[02:25] <troy_s> gretyl:  not too many free software users are interested in running macos on an opensource platform.  there are some people out there who want to do that, but most NOT here.
[02:25] <zexr0> anyone can help my with a usb device problem ?
[02:25] <Gretyl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacOnLinuxHowto is what I'm working from
[02:25] <Ron_o> updating to dapper and had some problems on the install CD.
[02:25] <Ron_o> this is the error message: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] /poo l/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-2 3-386_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[02:25] <Ron_o> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-mis sing?
[02:25] <Ron_o> what to do. :-/
[02:26] <redguy> nalioth: not sure about the exact location though, but the filename is 'base' that's for sure
[02:26] <troy_s> ron_o:  did you check your media before you tried to install stuff?
[02:26] <nalioth> redguy: noted
[02:26] <troy_s> ron_o:  if you didnt' you are begging for pain.
[02:26] <Ron_o> well, not exactly..
[02:26] <Ron_o> I'm begging for pain.
[02:26] <skippy81> Ron_o:  you should download the ISO again and run an md5 check on it
[02:26] <BlueSwirl> kinky
[02:26] <bimberi> robochief: it will work, but be a bit slow, you could try xubuntu if it's annoyingly so
[02:26] <Ron_o> I did check it but thought something else was wrong, and not my CD.
[02:26] <troy_s> ron_o:  then it could be anything.  always validate your media before you think you have a problem :)
[02:26] <Ron_o> what to do now?
[02:26] <robochief> *Will Dapper Drake work on a Celeron 500MHz with 128MB of RAM?*
[02:26] <troy_s> ron_o:  media is cheap.  md5sum test everything.
[02:26] <nalioth> robochief: yes, it will
[02:27] <robochief> Oh ok, ty.
[02:27] <troy_s> robochief:  try it.
[02:27] <bimberi> robochief: yes
[02:27] <nalioth> robochief: you may wish to run xubuntu on it
[02:27] <skippy81> rabocheif yes, but XFCE is recommended IMO
[02:27] <troy_s> can ubotu search for keywords in bugs?
[02:27] <Ron_o> robochief, I'm running pII 350 and 195MB RAM.
[02:27] <Gretyl> troy_s: thank you, I've found what might be a better forum for my question
[02:27] <troy_s> via malone?
[02:27] <troy_s> gretyl:  good.
[02:27] <_tacoman_> i am installing the 686 smp kernal.  should i remove 386 ones?
[02:27] <robochief> Will try xubuntu than. :)
[02:27] <troy_s> gretyl:  there are very specific forums to help with that sort of thing.
[02:28] <cocox> hi is there a way to import my iptables.rules.file and make them take effect without rebooting???
[02:28] <spikeb> robochief, sweet
[02:28] <Ron_o> skippy, I have the ISO with the correct MD5sum check.
[02:28] <Ron_o> it's the burned CD.
[02:28] <crimsun> _tacoman_: only after you've booted into 686 and verified it works
[02:28] <obviouslytom>  ubotu, tell obviouslytom about hyperthreading
[02:28] <MooUK> [01:27:15]  <nalioth> robochief: you may wish to run xubuntu on it <-- Seconded; Xubuntu is lightning fast on a machine that's about half that.
[02:28] <troy_s> ron_o:  then check the BURNED cd md5 test.
[02:28] <Ron_o> btw, can I run the iso after mounting it?
[02:28] <crimsun> _tacoman_: there's no sense in rendering your system unbootable
[02:28] <_tacoman_> do i need to change init files or boot scripts?
[02:28] <crimsun> _tacoman_: no need, just reboot.
[02:28] <Ron_o> the problem is I'm out of CDs at the moment. :(
[02:28] <troy_s> ron_o:  understand?  Download test -- burn -- test burned files.
[02:29] <Ron_o> that was my last one.
[02:29] <skippy81> Ron_o you can mount a dapper ISO and use it as a source to upgrade from breezy to dapper
[02:29] <troy_s> ron_o:  you might be sool
[02:29] <Ron_o> skippy, yes.
[02:29] <troy_s> ron_o:  upgrade via the net an option?
[02:29] <Ron_o> that's what I have to do. That's what I should have done but misunderstood the process exactly.
[02:29] <_tacoman_> and my system already was unbootable before i disabled acpi
[02:29] <Ron_o> troy_s, no. Not enough space on HD.
[02:29] <robochief> To install (no use of LiveCD) of xubuntu, which version would you recommend? Alternate?
[02:29] <shodanjr_gr> guys
[02:29] <bright> hello! does anyone know how I can configure my firewall on ubuntu 5.10?
[02:30] <bimberi> ubotu tell bright about firewall
[02:30] <_jason> !firewall
[02:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[02:30] <Ron_o> skippy, what might be the command for that?
[02:30] <shodanjr_gr> some driver seems to be loading by default for my wireless card and not letting ndiswrapper take over, any way i can get around this????
[02:30] <troy_s> ron_o: sounds like you have more problems than simple md5summing :)
[02:30] <Ron_o> I believe it was sudo apt-get cd ...
[02:30] <bright> ok. thanks!!!
[02:30] <Ron_o> just point to the iso?
[02:30] <Ron_o> troy_s, I do. :)
[02:30] <skippy81> http://krazypenguin.net/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_6.06_Guide#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Image_.28ISO.29_files_without_burning Ron_o excellent dapper install guide here
[02:30] <cocox> hi is there a way to import my iptables.rules.file and make them take effect without rebooting???
[02:30] <Ron_o> the big thing is I have a complete backup image. :)
[02:31] <Ron_o> not too worried. hehe.
[02:31] <michael117> How can I force Ubuntu to emulate 5.1 sound to my 5.1 sound card and speaker setup?
[02:31] <Ron_o> thanks skippy81. I'll check it out.
[02:31] <troy_s> cocox:  everything in opensource land aside from jumping kernels can be done without rebooting
[02:31] <skippy81> i love the way linux can mount stuff so easily :)
[02:31] <nalioth> bright: <whisper> you really don't need a firewall, this isn't windows
[02:31] <_tacoman_> smp is useful if you have ht, right?
[02:31] <skippy81> i just wish it would 'mount' me :)
[02:31] <troytroy> hi my irssi client cant connect to any server
[02:31] <troy_s> nalioth:  you should always know what ports are open on your box at any given moment.
[02:31] <Ron_o> skippy81, the thing is I knew it could be mounted, but I thought I needed to reboot.
[02:31] <Ron_o> tisk tisk..
[02:31] <troy_s> nalioth:  the best firewall is your brain.
[02:31] <mitcheloc> are there plans to include xgl support in ubuntu?
[02:31] <Ron_o> so much for my knowledge.
[02:31] <robochief> *To install (no use of LiveCD) of xubuntu, which version would you recommend? Alternate?*
[02:31] <nalioth> troy_s: it's not the ports that are open, it's whats listening
[02:31] <troy_s> mitcheloc:  search for edgy
[02:32] <troy_s> mitch:  it is already in dapper with a few keystrokes.
[02:32] <Ron_o> robochief, no..the desktop.
[02:32] <seife> redguy: i cant access to the partition
[02:32] <redguy> !tell mitcheloc about xgl
[02:32] <troy_s> nalioth:  pretty hard to have an open port without something listening :)
[02:32] <Ron_o> btw, robochief the Live CD *is* the Desktop CD.
[02:32] <skippy81> Ron_o:  are you currently sitting in a working breezy installation at the moment?
[02:32] <mitcheloc> troy_s: you guys rock! my first time today installing ubuntu ;)
[02:32] <seife> sombody help me please
[02:32] <Ron_o> skippy81, yes.
[02:32] <redguy> seife: could you elaborate on that?
[02:32] <Burgundavia> mitcheloc: possibly for edgy
[02:32] <bimberi> robochief: the livecd will be handy when you're blown away by it and want to let others try it out :)
[02:32] <troy_s> mitcheloc:  everyone rocks.  its the community that drives freedom.
[02:32] <skippy81> i think you can just mount, add to sources and dist upgrade
[02:33] <robochief> oh ok :)
[02:33] <kbrooks_> mitcheloc: was it easy?
[02:33] <Ron_o> skippy, I'll give it a try and tell you how it goes.
[02:33] <cocox> troy_s, ohh i didnt know... so is there a way to make my rules take effect in iptables ????
[02:33] <Ron_o> let me get to the page. One more question, skippy81
[02:33] <mitcheloc> kbrooks_: i'm still working on it
[02:33] <seife> redguy: what u mean elaborate?
[02:33] <kbrooks_> Ron_o:
[02:33] <Ron_o> wait..
[02:33] <troy_s> mitcheloc:  when we start sucking like apple and microsoft, the whole thing starts sucking.
[02:33] <redguy> seife: give more detail
[02:33] <seife> i dont understand why i cant access to windows partition
[02:33] <seife> redguy: i just cant access
[02:34] <troy_s> cocox:  google iptables... more than<PHONE_NUMBER>000000 howtos out there.
[02:34] <Ron_o> seife, you have to mount your partition.
[02:34] <mitcheloc> troy_s: =)
[02:34] <obviouslytom>  ubotu, tell obviouslytom about smp
[02:34] <[zero] > Im having a problem installing alien, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15101
[02:34] <troy_s> mitcheloc:  seriously -- everyone who donates time or writes things contributes.
[02:34] <Auckland_Pig> !search
[02:34] <troy_s> zero:  hold reading.
[02:34] <ubotu> rumour has it, search is System>Administration>Synaptic, has a search function. Command line are apt-cache search "packagename", or aptitude search "packagename", or you can also do a package search via http://packages.ubuntu.com/<package>
[02:34] <redguy> seife: telling us what error message you are getting might help
[02:34] <kbrooks_> Ron_o:  mount -o loop [/path/to/...] /NAME.iso /path/to/directory
[02:34] <troy_s> BAD zero
[02:34] <troy_s> bad bad bad
[02:35] <troy_s> laf.
[02:35] <redguy> seife: did you follow the wiki link ubotu sent you ?
[02:35] <troy_s> zero:  sudo apt-get install alien
[02:35] <mitcheloc> troy_s: right, same way with most other distros/projects too, but they aren't as people friendly
[02:35] <BlueSwirl> mitcheloc, troy_s is right, submitting bug reports or helping out on this very channel is all helping out
[02:35] <cocox> troy_s, i have been looking on.... if you are not able to help please stay quiet in silence
[02:35] <[zero] > troy_s: haha I was doing what it told me on the wiki site :(
[02:35] <Ron_o> kbrooks_, yah, that's the question I waiting to get answered.
[02:35] <Ron_o> thanks!
[02:35] <grapegil> how easy is it to update ubuntu?
[02:35] <nalioth> [zero] : why do you need alien?
[02:35] <Ron_o> grapegil, very easy.
[02:35] <kbrooks_> grapegil: very easy
[02:35] <grapegil> alright thanks.
[02:35] <troy_s> mitcheloc:  which is why i choose to support ubuntu.  it is important that the entire world shuns corporate driven computing.
[02:35] <spartas> ron_o: you will need to update before performing the dist-upgrade
[02:35] <Auckland_Pig> how do i search for files in dapper? i'm unable to make nautilus find files
[02:35] <zexr0> grapegil,  about 3 click
[02:35] <troy_s> mitcheloc:  for better or for worse.
[02:35] <skippy81> i want to get into the bug reporting scene but im scared :)
[02:35] <[zero] > nalioth: duno really :/
[02:36] <troy_s> mitcheloc: in the shortterm -- meaning despite the little hurdles.
[02:36] <Ron_o> spartas, I have updated before, but I should do so again?
[02:36] <grapegil> skippy81, make a buggy bug report to begin with ;)
[02:36] <kbrooks_> skippy81: therer ARE trivial bugs you can duplicate
[02:36] <Ron_o> it says I should in update manager.
[02:36] <troy_s> skippy:  just dive into malone bro.
[02:36] <BlueSwirl> troy_s, just to play devils advocate, what about the support ubuntu gets from canonical?
[02:36] <skippy81> lol
[02:36] <Ron_o> grapegil, make a backup if you can before upgrading.
[02:36] <seife> Ron_o: i cant mount
[02:36] <seife> i click enable and nothing happens
[02:36] <seife> redguy: yes
[02:36] <Ron_o> there are still problems.
[02:36] <michael117> Does Ubuntu use ALSA or OSS by default?
[02:36] <spartas> ron_o: you will need to update after you change your sources file
[02:36] <skippy81> yeah i might have to get involved in malone reports
[02:36] <grapegil> back up is for wimps!
[02:36] <kbrooks_> skippy81: look in the nautilus package
[02:36] <redguy> seife: could you paste the output of mount to the pastebin?
[02:36] <troy_s> blueswirl:  mark puts his money where his mouth is.  he is stallman all the way.
[02:36] <nalioth> [zero] : you should use what is in the official ubuntu repos, for the health of your machine, (there is over 18,000 pkgs in the repos)
[02:36] <bright> ok. I started synaptic now. How can I install a package which is not available there... like this firestarter firewall tool?
[02:36] <seife> redguy: its seems to be mounted but i dont see any folder
[02:37] <seife> its just blank i dont see my folders
[02:37] <Ron_o> bright, in repositories..
[02:37] <troy_s> blueswirl:  i consider him the most important factor.  he put the money up and believes in free software (in the stallman sense of the word)
[02:37] <[zero] > nalioth: alright
[02:37] <Ron_o> I think it's in Synaptic Package Manager under preferences.
[02:37] <Ron_o> it's in the menu.
[02:37] <MCSE_Noob> anyone know why fwcutter cannot be found?????
[02:37] <Ron_o> sorry for being so vague.
[02:37] <troy_s> zero:  ALWAYS try to start with the repos, they will save you all sorts of hassels.
[02:37] <Auckland_Pig> how can i search for files?
[02:37] <Auckland_Pig> how can i search for files on dapper?
[02:37] <redguy> seife: to be more precise, open a terminal, type mount and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:37] <shodanjr_gr> guys
[02:37] <troy_s> auckland:  find / -name "*keyword*"
[02:37] <mitcheloc> my favorite part about ubuntu has to be the lack of the letter K or G prefixing everything ;)
[02:37] <bright> Ron_o: what should I do there?
[02:37] <skippy81> MCSE_Noob:  are you trying to install an airport?
[02:37] <shodanjr_gr> how can i access my blacklist file to prevent a driver from loading on startup???
[02:37] <bimberi> Auckland_Pig: Find -> Search for Files ?
[02:37] <BlueSwirl> troy_s, true enough, both mark and rms are total dudes, but would ubuntu be as big and as good as it is without corporate support? (again, just arguing for aruings sake ;-) )
[02:37] <Ron_o> in Synaptic?
[02:37] <troytroy> hi is limewire in the repos
[02:38] <MCSE_Noob> I am trying to use a broadcom wireless card
[02:38] <troy_s> mitcheloc:  that's KDE and gnome... its still there... will always be there.
[02:38] <bimberi> Auckland_Pig: sorry, that's Places -> Search for Files...
[02:38] <zexr0> anyone got an idea how to make usb device work on Ubuntu ?
[02:38] <bright> yes. in the repositories dialog
[02:38] <troy_s> mcse:  GOOD LUCK
[02:38] <MCSE_Noob> :(
[02:38] <spikeb> BlueSwirl, yes it would, because of one man's money :P
[02:38] <MCSE_Noob> this blows
[02:38] <mitcheloc> troy_s: i know, i'm just glad it's not the prefix
[02:38] <skippy81> BlueSwirl: linux and corporations are compatable - you can make money ethically
[02:38] <MCSE_Noob> no distro will use broadcom cards
[02:38] <troy_s> mcse:  It might as well be an apple specific pinout mouse.
[02:38] <nalioth> BlueSwirl: take troy_s into #ubuntu-offtopic and argue til you pass out
[02:38] <lurgee> zexr0: what kind of a usb device?
[02:38] <Ron_o> bright, check out the wiki.ubuntu under repositories and it will help you out.
[02:38] <gonz1> hello ubuntu people!
[02:38] <Ron_o> but it's easier in Synaptic.
[02:38] <troy_s> mcse:  It isn't the community's fault.
[02:38] <BlueSwirl> skippy81, good point :)
[02:38] <troy_s> mcse:  ITS BROADCOM.  send them hatemail.
[02:38] <nalioth> MCSE_Noob: the broadcom driver is in dapper
[02:38] <MCSE_Noob> what kinda card do you use, troy?
[02:38] <zexr0> joypad device, it used to work like an hour ago, and then now it dosen't work anymore
[02:39] <bright> ok, thanks!
[02:39] <Ron_o> I don't have Synaptic open and I can't or I'd tell you exactly.
[02:39] <MCSE_Noob> so how do I get it working nalioth/
[02:39] <Auckland_Pig> bimberi: i got Desktop search... and it says "search services" not started
[02:39] <Ron_o> just check in the menu when Syn* is open.
[02:39] <fh|killy> I'm stuck at "mounting root file system" on dapper CD - can't even get to the live Dapper.  Disconnected all hard drives and peripherals and get the same thing... any ideas?
[02:39] <nalioth> MCSE_Noob: alt-f2 > gksudo network-admin      see what you can see
[02:39] <kbrooks_> Auckland_Pig: click on the revelant button
[02:39] <gonz1> i just u/g to dapper and love the release ... but mouse copy-paste doesn't look to work. ideas?
[02:39] <skippy81> BlueSwirl:  theres a really good quote about ideas by George Bernard Shaw which could have been about open source:- If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.
[02:39] <nalioth> fh|killy: press f1 through f4 at the boot prompt and see if you can see any settings
[02:39] <zexr0> lurgee,  joypad device, it used to work like an hour ago, and then now it dosen't work anymore
[02:39] <MCSE_Noob> yeh it sees my card but when I activate it it just hangs there and then it finally says active but it won't connect to $hit
[02:39] <bimberi> Auckland_Pig: "Desktop search"?  I'm not familiar with that.
[02:40] <MCSE_Noob> the driver blows or whatever
[02:40] <fh|killy> nalioth - what should i be looking for exactly?
[02:40] <BlueSwirl> skippy81, familiar with that one. use it alot myself.
[02:40] <redguy> seife: I'm sure someone else will help you out with this, got to go right now. It's pretty late in here right now
[02:40] <troy_s> MCSE:  openbsd has a good listing of open specced cards.  http://kerneltrap.org/node/4118 for a good article.
[02:40] <MCSE_Noob> might just have to go get an orinoco
[02:40] <nalioth> fh|killy: your wireless hardware listed
[02:40] <skippy81> BlueSwirl: yeah its a good one :)
[02:40] <shodanjr_gr> cross your fingers people!!!
[02:40] <Auckland_Pig> bimberi: i cant see "search for files" in my menu..... only search and that desktop search comes up
[02:40] <lurgee> zexr0: what were you doing when it stopped working? did you just unplug it? have you tried rebooting?
[02:40] <fh|killy> ok
[02:40] <troy_s> mcse:  when you decide on a card, tell the vendor you chose it because of their open source / specifications.
[02:40] <kbrooks_> Auckland_Pig: you dont need to search for files
[02:40] <seife> redguy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15102
[02:41] <zexr0> lurgee,  I just stop playing, well I'll try a reboot brb
[02:41] <BlueSwirl> skippy81, along with "capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men, for the nastiest of reasons, will some how work for the benefit of us all" - john maynard keynes
[02:41] <seife> someone help me i cant mount my windows partition rightly or i cant access to it, this is what i got on mount => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15102
[02:41] <MCSE_Noob> who carries orinoco cards that work for sure troy?
[02:41] <lurgee> when in doubt, reboot
[02:41] <bimberi> Auckland_Pig: this is gnome? Places menu?
[02:41] <AlwaysIcey> There's a utility in the symatic package manager about Broadcom modems.  But, I'm not sure if it will help you in your situation MCSE.  You'll want to enable the different repositories (universe and Multiverse) to see it.
[02:41] <Auckland_Pig> kbrooks_: i want to search for files.... but cant find where it is in dapper
[02:41] <skippy81> BlueSwirl:  yeah thats an excellent one - i dropped that in an essay at uni once :)
[02:41] <kbrooks_> Auckland_Pig: where are these files? in your home directory?
[02:41] <troy_s> blueswirl:  good quotes.
[02:41] <Auckland_Pig> bimberi: yes gnome,
[02:41] <Auckland_Pig> yes
[02:42] <Peregrino> Can anyone help me with a live-expert ubuntu?
[02:42] <BlueSwirl> skippy81, nice :-) the best use of a quote in academia i know of is a friend of mine using HP Lovecraft in his physics dissertation
[02:42] <troy_s> blueswirl:  capitalism is fine as long as it doesn't start regulating things like literature, music, art, science, knoweldge, etc.
[02:42] <BlueSwirl> troy_s, cheeres
[02:42] <grasshopper> Can someone tell me aout screensavers?
[02:42] <kbrooks_> Auckland_Pig: use beagle to search for them. start the search service
[02:42] <RandolphCarter> BlueSwirl: (spot the interest), but what did h quote?
[02:42] <aaron_> i need help installing my wireless network card
[02:42] <kbrooks_> Auckland_Pig: in theBeno  GUI
[02:42] <AlwaysIcey> what do you want to know about screensavers?
[02:42] <spikeb> in other wrods, capitalism is fine as long as it's not touching anything important.
[02:42] <BlueSwirl> troy_s, but isn't that what it buys and sells?
[02:42] <grapegil> BlueSwirl, what'd he have to say ?
[02:42] <troy_s> aaron:  you aren't alone.
[02:42] <aaron_> lol
[02:42] <MCSE_Noob> LOL
[02:42] <skippy81> grasshopper, the good ones in linux use opengl - so you need an accelerated card to have them looking good
[02:42] <kbrooks_> Auckland_Pig: in the GUI, i mean
[02:42] <Auckland_Pig> kbrooks_: whats Beno?
[02:42] <Auckland_Pig> ok
[02:42] <shodanjr_gr> YEESSSSSSSS
[02:42] <aaron_> can anyone help?
[02:43] <BlueSwirl> RandolphCarter, grapegil, can't remember exactly, it was the one about going mad if we investigate the universe too hard ;-)
[02:43] <kbrooks_> Auckland_Pig: i accidentally tabcompleted
[02:43] <gonz1> i just u/g to dapper and love the release ... but mouse copy-paste doesn't look to work. ideas?
[02:43] <shodanjr_gr> OH YESSSS
[02:43] <shodanjr_gr> IM WIRELESS BABY
[02:43] <shodanjr_gr> :P
[02:43] <grasshopper> skippy81: but there are so few good ones in Dapper
[02:43] <grapegil> hehehe.
[02:43] <aaron_> its a Dell Wireless 1350 WLAN PC card
[02:43] <MCSE_Noob> what card you using sho?
[02:43] <mnk> hello all. can someone tell me how to mount a vmware windows partition so i can see it under ubuntu?
[02:43] <shodanjr_gr> Netgear WG511
[02:43] <grapegil> i like the one about the only people who drink sober being the insane :)
[02:43] <skippy81> grasshopper, its the matrix one for the win i still think, i saw a guy who had the matrix opengl screenie as his wallpaper with XGL lol
[02:43] <grapegil> also by lovecraft.
[02:43] <shodanjr_gr> version 3, the one made in china
[02:43] <grapegil> i think he had a lot to say about the subject.
[02:43] <MCSE_Noob> how'd you get it working?
[02:43] <RandolphCarter> BlueSwirl: ahh, most humans would go mad if they could correlate all of their data?
[02:43] <shodanjr_gr> ndiswrapper
[02:43] <troy_s> blueswirl:  well knowledge must be free, and more and more computers perform knowledge tasks -- like books.  it gets very very ugly when you have MS telling how to run the 'web' or other protocols.  Apple too, as they have conquered the damn music end for the now.
[02:43] <grapegil> *dance sober, not drink.
[02:43] <RandolphCarter> BlueSwirl: or something along those lines
[02:43] <laervian1> good evening
[02:44] <BlueSwirl> troy_s, definitely.
[02:44] <Peregrino> May someone tellme about live-expert on Ubuntu?
[02:44] <seife> somone help
[02:44] <BlueSwirl> RandolphCarter, yeah, that one :-)
[02:44] <troy_s> aaron:  you need to find the chipset to start
[02:44] <Peregrino> !restrictedformats
[02:44] <ubotu> methinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:44] <MCSE_Noob> haha "someone help."
[02:44] <grasshopper> skippy81: i had a couple in Breezy that are missing in Dapper and i'm really missing them. Wondered if one can install more?
[02:44] <troy_s> aaron:  lspci helps find that sort of stuff :)
[02:44] <searayman> i logged off then logged back into ubuntu and now my gdesklets wont start up? any ideas?
[02:44] <AlwaysIcey> mnk, if it's the host, you'll need to use samba.  If it's a separate partition on the same vm, you should just need to use mount /dev/hd* where the * is the letter of the partition (like hda1).
[02:44] <troy_s> aaron:  if it comes up with a vendor who likes secrets, you are hooped.
[02:44] <Tedd> searayman, don't use gdesklets
[02:44] <Tedd> :P
[02:44] <aaron_> troy: is that a channel?
[02:44] <troy_s> samba stinks, use ssh
[02:44] <laervian1> does anybody know how to copy openoffice_math formulas into the writer?
[02:44] <Caspian> searayman: put "gdesklets" in your startup sessions
[02:45] <searayman> Tedd:  i need the dock because i have my computer set up to look like a mac
[02:45] <gimmulf> Hmmm i dont get any syntax highlightning in vim after upgrading to dapper
[02:45] <troy_s> aaron:  open up a terminal and type lspci
[02:45] <grasshopper> skippy81: also in breezy i could tick as many as i wanted to and have them alter. In Dapper i see no option for this and one can only choose one at a time, am i right?
[02:45] <shodanjr_gr> guys
[02:45] <aaron_> lol, how do i open up a terminal
[02:45] <aaron_> im a neewb with the OS
[02:45] <searayman> Caspian:  i did and it wont even start up if i try it manualy
[02:45] <troy_s> aaron:  applications, accessories, terminal
[02:45] <Caspian> searayman: System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup
[02:45] <shodanjr_gr> can anyone suggest a good C++ and a good JAva IDE?
[02:45] <Caspian> oh...
[02:45] <troy_s> aaron:  you asked.  you know now.  no problem.
[02:45] <mnk> AlwaysIcey: i am running windows within my ubuntu [ie ubuntu is the host]
[02:45] <poje> aaron_: f2 + gnome-terminal
[02:45] <searayman> casi know
[02:45] <troy_s> shodanjr:  vi/emacs ?
[02:45] <fh|killy> does anyone have link to the alternative installer?
[02:45] <searayman> Caspian: i know i tried that it dosent work
[02:45] <AlwaysIcey> Then you'll probably want to use either samba or ssh.
[02:45] <poje> shodanjr_gr: Eclipse is by far the best Java IDE
[02:46] <aaron_> thanks!
[02:46] <poje> I think it has a C++ plugin, not sure though
[02:46] <Caspian> What do you get when you run pgrep gdesklets?
[02:46] <AlwaysIcey> Yep, Eclipse does.  It has all sorts of plugins.
[02:46] <skippy81> grasshopper, dapper certainly has less options availiable, but i expect a replacement screensaver manager could be used
[02:46] <shodanjr_gr> poje can i get it through Synaptic?
[02:46] <gonz1> for dapper, ideas as to where he "lock screen" applet is? and mouse copy-paste isn't working for me, but worked on breezy fine. ideas?
[02:46] <skippy81> i will have a look through synaptic for you grasshopper
[02:46] <aaron_> troy: now wat do i do after i type that in?
[02:46] <seife> someone help me i cant mount my windows partition rightly or i cant access to it, this is what i got on mount => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15102
[02:46] <troy_s> gonz:  dapper is four days old.  might be growing pains.
[02:46] <poje> shodanjr_gr: I am not sure - try it with apt-get, otherwise get it off the web
[02:46] <troy_s> aaron: look for wireless card info.
[02:47] <Peregrino> Is there a way to mount a HD running a Live ver. of Ubunut???
[02:47] <grasshopper> skippy81: what's up with that?! how can the next higher release have less options and less screensavers then a previous relaese?
[02:47] <troy_s> aaron:  i am off... skippy might be able to help you.  he and others are quite knowledgable.
[02:47] <gonz1> thx troy_s. it worked really well for me re monitor resolution and video card support. breezey didn't fair as well.
[02:47] <poje> Peregrino: I think the live CD automounts the harddisk
[02:47] <lurgee> i know i'm asking a dangerous question but: how does one login as root?
[02:47] <troy_s> grasshopper:  streamlining.  keeping with the ubuntu goals.
[02:47] <Ron_o> here's the question. How do I add the iso cd repository so the upgrade will occur there. If and when I did the CD the command was 'sudo apt-cdrom add'
[02:47] <gonz1> most things in dapper look quite good. i'm impressed.
[02:47] <grasshopper> skippy81: i tuped screensaver in synaptic but nothing came back
[02:47] <aaron_> thanks troy
[02:47] <bimberi> lurgee: 'sudo -i' will get you a root login shell
[02:48] <aaron_> skippy: i found the wireless card troy was talkin about
[02:48] <lurgee> also, what is the difference between dapper and breeze
[02:48] <zexr0> lurgee, reboot dosen't make it
[02:48] <troy_s> !root
[02:48] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu.  It's an update from Breezy.
[02:48] <lurgee> i need to change the admin's password
[02:48] <troy_s> lurgee:  use sudo, avoid root.  if you want more info, read the openbsd mailing list archives :)
[02:48] <bimberi> Ron_o: iirc it should offer to upgrade when you insert the cd
[02:48] <poje> Peregrino: For serious? I suggest probing the wiki then (or getting a knoppix live cd - that's what I use for recovery work)
[02:48] <lurgee> i cant login though, that's the problem
[02:48] <grasshopper> troy_s: nah.nah.nah...sure i don't get an os for screensavers, but it is such a small thing no need to cut corners there or options. Wanna keep some customability
[02:48] <skippy81> grasshopper, how many do you have - i have at least 40 open gl screensavers accesable, but none with any 'advanced options'
[02:49] <Ron_o> bimberi, you missed the point. hehe.
[02:49] <laervian1> zexr0: you can activate the root user anyway, I did it
[02:49] <Ron_o> I have some very complex problems here.
[02:49] <troy_s> grasshopper:  you can.  but the default install is trying to be streamlined for ease of use.
[02:49] <shodanjr_gr> damn i really gota get my ATI drivers working....
[02:49] <Ron_o> and it won't work your way anway.
[02:49] <Caspian> lurgee: Reboot, when you get to grub, select "Failsafe"
[02:49] <shodanjr_gr> vesa is kinda slugish...
[02:49] <troy_s> grasshopper:  you still have the option to go 'big' after the fact.
[02:49] <poje> grasshopper: unfortunately Gnome is _still_ cutting options down in order for it to be "easier" on users
[02:49] <zexr0> laervian1,  it's not me that want to enable root user
[02:49] <nbx909> how do i know if i upgraded to dapper successfully?
[02:49] <troy_s> shodan:  yes.  it is standards based --  no accelleration.
[02:49] <bimberi> Ron_o: yes, sorry i haven't been following - i just went on that post by itself :)
[02:49] <poje> And yes, I heart Gnome and use it over KDE
[02:49] <grasshopper> skippy81: mostly crap all of them. the ones that were great in Breezy are gone, replaced with lots of crappy ones in Dapper without the options
[02:49] <searayman> what is the software channel?
[02:49] <laervian1> zexr0: uh sorry
[02:49] <Caspian> lurgee: That will take you directly to a root terminal
[02:49] <seife> someone help me i cant mount my windows partition rightly or i cant access to it, this is what i got on mount => http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15102
[02:49] <Ron_o> no problem. bimberi it's tough in here.
[02:49] <zexr0> laervian1, I want to make a usb device that was working an hour ago to work again
[02:50] <skippy81> grasshopper, i think a lot of it is to do with the new gnome desktop
[02:50] <bob_> I I just wanted to pop in and thank everyone for the help they supplied earlier with installing Ubuntu over  Fedora. I'm now IRCing direct from my new install, Thanks!
[02:50] <searayman> what is the software channel?
[02:50] <skippy81> the new gnome is definately cut back in places
[02:50] <troy_s> bob_:  spread the faith.
[02:50] <spikeb> bob_, i didn't help, but you're more than welcome
[02:50] <poje> bob_: congrats :)
[02:50] <laervian1> zexr0: I am no expert sorry....i formatted my flashpen and it worked again after a similar problem though
[02:50] <searayman> dose anyone know what the software channel is?
[02:50] <skippy81> thankyou bob_ thats really nice of you to pop in and make us feel warm and happy :)
[02:50] <troy_s> searayman:  no one responded. so no.
[02:50] <Ron_o> searayman, for software?
[02:50] <troy_s> searayman:  try rephrasing.
[02:51] <laervian1> zexr0: btw, do you know how to copy oo_math formulas into the writer?
[02:51] <Peregrino> poje: Now I'm on Ubuntu, and was wondering if I could mount one of my HD. What about running ubuntu live-expert?
[02:51] <spikeb> yeah you can
[02:51] <zexr0> laervian1, no sorry
[02:51] <grasshopper> poje: it has made it harder now for me to get what i want. There was never anything hard about having options and having more choice of screensavers. Thats hardly streamlining
[02:51] <skippy81> Peregrino, what filesystem are the harddisks?
[02:51] <laervian1> Peregrino: yeah you can, check the guide
[02:51] <aaron_> skippy: i need help installing my wireless Dell network card. Troy told me to  do lspci and look for wireless card, so i found that. now wat do i do?
[02:51] <BlueSwirl> nbx909, start firefox, the homepage should have stuff about this being dapper 6.06 etc etc
[02:51] <searayman> troy_s:  i tried installing somethign i downloaded and it said there was an older version in the software channel and it recomends i install that one
[02:51] <gonz1> ubuntu totally rocks! cut over to it from suse like 1.5 yrs ago. best dist out there, imnsho.
[02:51] <bimberi> Peregrino: Here's an example: "sudo mkdir /media/hda1 && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1"  (hda1 might have to change)
[02:52] <Peregrino> skippt81: NTFS
[02:52] <grasshopper> I can think of other areas where ease of use and streamlining could add functionality and ease to newbies like myself
[02:52] <skippy81> aaron_:  first you need to know the chipset of the wireless card - for that its exact model number and/or revision is needed
[02:52] <nbx909> BlueSwirl, is there some command line command?
[02:52] <troy_s> grasshopper:  you can always get involved in dev with a little dedication
[02:52] <grasshopper> so, Guys, is there a way of adding more screensavers and/or adding options? or is that it?
[02:52] <searayman> any ideas?
[02:52] <BlueSwirl> nbx909, there is, but i can't remember it. gah
[02:52] <schloob> anyone know how i can change my window manager from metacity to ion3?
[02:52] <troy_s> grasshopper:  yes there is.  this probably isn't the best forum for it though.
[02:52] <skippy81> Peregrino, you should be able to get read access to it using gnomes built in discs utility in System - ADmin
[02:52] <schloob> (without losing any gnome features like printing)
[02:53] <Pjott> Hi all!
[02:53] <Pjott> again ;p
[02:53] <aaron_> skippy: its a Dell wireless 1350 WLAN PC Card Model: WL-611GD
[02:53] <Peregrino> bimberi: you have to create a folder in /media to mount an HD :|
[02:53] <searayman> anyone know what this means? "A later version is available in a software channel"
[02:53] <BlueSwirl> nbx909, try uname
[02:53] <grasshopper> troy-s: common...it was fine no need to have dumbed down the screensaver section or take away teh best screensavers. Sure i might have to email Mark about this
[02:53] <laervian1> hey, 3rd time...anyone here who can use openoffice math?
[02:53] <skippy81> Peregrino:  make a folder on your desktop, called NTFS and use the disk utiilty to mount the ntfs at that location
[02:53] <nbx909> BlueSwirl, not uname it's something else
[02:53] <bimberi> Peregrino: you need to create a mountpoint somewhere - you can choose somewhere else if you like
[02:53] <Pjott> Just wondered: Are there any MIDI Editing apps. for Ubuntu? Such as Cubase or Fruity Loops etc.? I know Mandriva had "RoseGarden".
[02:53] <AlienX> laervian1, i can use it but have no idea what i'm doing :)
[02:53] <rixth> Hahaha banned from offtopic. Usually the other way around. God damn power tripping op.
[02:53] <skippy81> aaron_:  ok im going to look into it for you brb
[02:54] <grasshopper> troy_s: what is the best forum for me to take this question?
[02:54] <laervian1> i need to copy a math formula into the writer
[02:54] <laervian1> no way
[02:54] <comet> anyone recommend a good Xgl/Compiz howto for the newly released 6.06 LTS? the ones on the forums worked for me in the beta version, but now I'm not getting the same results
[02:54] <aaron_> skippy: thanks!
[02:54] <bimberi> ubotu tell comet about xgl
[02:54] <ramza3> anybody recommend a solid laser printer that is ubuntu friendly (dapper)
[02:54] <Madpilot> rixth, grow up
[02:54] <BlueSwirl> nbx909, uname will atleast show what version of the kernel you have, and if it's the new version, then bingo :)
[02:54] <AlienX> ramza3, anything by hp will work
[02:54] <SillyRabbit> Nvidia or ATI for Ubuntu ?
[02:54] <Ron_o> ramza3, I can't exactly answer that but hp works well with linux.
[02:54] <Peregrino> bimberi: I think /edia is the best place then ^^, but i didn't kew I had to make a "mountpoint". I've been using linux for 2 days ;)
[02:54] <nbx909> BlueSwirl, true
[02:54] <Eleaf> rixth, ;p
[02:54] <kbrooks_> Madpilot: i started it
[02:54] <poje> grasshopper: basically Gnome is oversimplifying and irritating power users while KDE has every option under the sun and irritates normal users who don't need to customize every little detail of their config and have to wade through all these obscure settings to do stuff
[02:55] <bimberi> Peregrino: :)
[02:55] <icaro> a pakage for so subtitle .srt  ,,,the xine not runnig
[02:55] <poje> So...maybe XFCE or Enlightenment will step up, but who knows
[02:55] <kbrooks_> poje: don't flame
[02:55] <SillyRabbit> Nvidia or ATI for Ubuntu ?
[02:55] <ramza3> why do hp printers look like fisher price toys
[02:55] <spikeb> poje, xfce seems to be trying to
[02:55] <poje> kbrooks_: that was not a flame
[02:55] <BlueSwirl> nbx909, 6.06 has kernel 2.6.12-23, iirc
[02:55] <icaro> ????
[02:56] <Pjott> Sorry, don't mean to be rude. Did you miss my Question? :s
[02:56] <lurgee> my problem is that my admin username was somehow change; or for some reason the password that i've always used is no longer correct. so I can't actually log in
[02:56] <poje> spikeb: hopefully, I like several aspects of it
[02:56] <poje> Pjott: unfortunately I don't know about MIDI editing ;d
[02:56] <grasshopper> skippy81: i also have the default 40 or so. Most of them are diabolical in my opinion. The great ones always stand out and must have been recognised as such. Why they left them out, dunno? and the only options are either random, which means there is no control of what is chosen or one specifies only 1, hmmm....synaptics was no help here, huh?
[02:57] <poje> lurgee: I think you can boot into recovery mode and that gives you root
[02:57] <poje> (or so I've heard)
[02:57] <Pjott> poje: Hmmm :/ I'll Google... Best that way ;D
[02:57] <poje> Pjott: someone else in here might know, just hand around :)
[02:57] <bimberi> lurgee: choose "Recovery Mode" from the grub boot menu and use 'passwd lurgee" to change it
[02:57] <fh|killy> nalioth - how does this error sound: "cannot allocate resource region 3 of device 0000:05:00.0"
[02:57] <hugh__> Why is NetworkManager not picking up that I have network connections?
[02:57] <nalioth> fh|killy: you got me
[02:57] <bimberi> lurgee: (or whatever your username is) :)
[02:58] <hugh__> it just sits there saying 'no network connection'
[02:58] <fh|killy> nalioth - is there a text only installer I can get somewhere?
[02:58] <josys36> Guys
[02:58] <josys36> What is the best PPP dialer to use?
[02:58] <poje> Hahahaha EA is releasing their next Battlefield 2 booster pack on 6.6.06
[02:58] <nalioth> fh|killy: there is, go get the 'alternate' install image
[02:58] <fh|killy> josys i use ipppd with ISDN
[02:58] <giind> I cant shut ubuntu dapper drake down .... I can only hibernate.. what shall i do_
[02:58] <poje> Terrible amusing, considering EA is a servant of Satan
[02:58] <fh|killy> ta nalioth
[02:58] <grasshopper> poje: well i might have to go over to kde then. While i accept the distinction in principle, screensaver is a small thing and was not too complex as it was in breezy . Therefore to have simplified it even further, is strange. The time it took them to do that could have been spent elsewhere making real worhwile changes. Just my thoughts
[02:58] <poje> *terrible -> terribly
[02:58] <nalioth> giind: open a terminal and type "sudo shutdown -h now"
[02:59] <skippy81> !ndiswrapper
[02:59] <ubotu> [ndiswrapper]  a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[02:59] <poje> grasshopper: nooooo! Not the dark side!
[02:59] <giind> yes but does that solve the proplem permanently
[02:59] <phuz> does ubuntu have any builtin clustering apps? or is that being worked on
[02:59] <seife> Can Someone help me mounting my windows partition
[02:59] <satan> EA brings in the lost souls regularly, and that keeps me happy
[02:59] <lurgee> thanks bimberi
[02:59] <kevin_> hey
[02:59] <bimberi> lurgee: yw :)
[02:59] <grasshopper> poje: dark side? what are you talking about?
[02:59] <poje> Hahahaahahah satan, for the win
[02:59] <aaron_> skippy81: is that wat i should get?
[02:59] <lurgee> is there a way to play partypoker using wine?
[02:59] <giind> theres no sence in shutting it down if the problem wont get fixed
[02:59] <ceu> is there a dvd version of ubuntu 6.06?
[02:59] <bimberi> ubotu tell seife about mountwindows
[02:59] <josys36> ok will try ipppd
[02:59] <kevin_> i want the desktop background images (wallpaper) to alternate every couple of minutes
[03:00] <distanceisdeath> Why cant i play m4a in XMMS?
[03:00] <poje> grasshopper: I have unfounded prejudices against KDE, don't ask
[03:00] <kevin_> anyone got a link for something like that
[03:00] <josys36> wine drives me nuts
[03:00] <skippy81> aaron_:  i think your going to have a really hard time here, your card is not a common one
[03:00] <josys36> try vmware
[03:00] <poje> distanceisdeath: you need the correct codecs
[03:00] <dxdemetriou> Is there a command to make a backup for entire system? I want to move my installed Ubuntu in smaller disk on other pc
[03:00] <poje> distanceisdeath: check out mplayer
[03:00] <distanceisdeath> how do i get those?
[03:00] <distanceisdeath> i have mplayer
[03:00] <skippy81> you will have to extract the *.inf drivers from the windows driver file and load them up with ndiswrapper aaron_
[03:00] <giind> how do i install banshee
[03:00] <distanceisdeath> is banshee a music player?
[03:00] <hugh__> Why is NetworkManager not picking up that I have network connections? It just sits there saying 'no network connection'. Yet I am connected and I have all my interfaces in the /etc/network/interfaces.
[03:01] <crimsun> giind: use Applications> Add ...
[03:01] <pHluid> Does anybody have any experience setting up accelerated graphics on an ATI 345M IGP or similiar?
[03:01] <Peregrino> bimberi: I've done what you said to me, but now i get an error telling me that I don't have permission to view the contents of the HD :S
[03:01] <giind> I know that.. but it wont show up
[03:01] <BlueSwirl> dxdemetriou, have you investigated the dump command? that does something like what you are looking for, iirc.
[03:01] <giind> I really need it for my mp3 player
[03:01] <hugh__> when I say NEtworkManager I mean the applet
[03:01] <aaron_> skipp81: ok, i have the Dell CD, how do i do ndiswrapper?
[03:01] <poje> distanceisdeath: did you follow the instructions on the mplayer site for installing the codec pack?
[03:01] <satan> poje: haha :)
[03:01] <obviouslytom> In the Synaptic Package Manager in Ubuntu, Do I want to install the linux-686-smp and the linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>-686?
[03:01] <obviouslytom> In the Synaptic Package Manager in Ubuntu, Do I want to install the linux-686-smp and the linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS>-686?
[03:01] <giind> creative zen sleek..
[03:01] <grasshopper> poje: dont take me wrong- i like gnome but it is small things like having a favourite screensaver in breezy not showing up in Dapper and then seeing that customization has been stripped to basically nil that annoys Common Mark Shuttleworth! youll be hearing from me
[03:01] <spikeb> enable universe to install banshee
[03:01] <distanceisdeath> i think so, i mean i can play the files on amarok and other things but not XMMS
[03:01] <grasshopper>  :o
[03:01] <cluehammer> obviouslytom probably the linux-headers one, that's why i'm doing anyway
[03:02] <sjh> with the ubuntu 6.06 release, does anyone know what the three different cd imageas are? There is a desktop and server image (both obvious) what is the alternate image?
[03:02] <mlalkaka> what's the ':' built-in command used for in bash?
[03:02] <poje> distanceisdeath: I don't know about XMMS, so perhaps check the settings - that's all I can offer, sorry
[03:02] <distanceisdeath> its okay
[03:02] <obviouslytom> its for the P4 thats in my laptop thats why i am asking
[03:02] <skippy81> aaron_:  you need the windows driver named "bcmwl5a.inf", you then follow the ndiswrapper guide I linked, it should work OK if your lucky
[03:02] <distanceisdeath> i just like using one player.
[03:02] <bimberi> Peregrino: hmmk, try 'mount -o uid=1000 ...'
[03:02] <seife> bimberi: i did that and i cant access to my partition..
[03:02] <grasshopper> Guys?! can one downoad or add screensavers in KDE?
[03:02] <Peregrino> bimberi: thats....?
[03:03] <poje> grasshopper: yes
[03:03] <pauliukas> Hello everybody
[03:03] <dxdemetriou> BlueSwirl: the tar is not work? like: tar  cpf backup.tar --directory /mnt/hda1 ?
[03:03] <hugh__> Why is NetworkManager Applet not picking up that I have network connections? It just sits there saying 'no network connection'. Yet I am connected and I have all my interfaces in the /etc/network/interfaces.
[03:03] <pauliukas> Can anyone give me a little bit of help over getting 3D acceleration on my Radeon IGP-320?
[03:03] <grasshopper> poje: if you see Mark before i do, you tell him, ok?
[03:03] <gonz1> aaaahhhh ....
[03:03] <aaron_> skippy81: thanks for your help
[03:03] <bimberi> Peregrino: In full "sudo mkdir /media/hda1 && sudo mount -o uid=1000 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1"
[03:03] <BlueSwirl> dxdemetriou, not an expert on that sort of thing myself, sorry :(
[03:03] <poje> grasshopper: however, if you are happy with Gnome I would spend the few minutes crawling the web/wiki to figure out doing it in Gnome and save the effort of installing KDE
[03:03] <gonz1> my copy-paste mouse is set to a different button ... under the scroll wheel.
[03:03] <gonz1> interesting.
[03:03] <poje> grasshopper: which one is Mark?
[03:04] <kevin_> noone got any ideas about the alternating desktop background
[03:04] <distanceisdeath> is banshee a music player?
[03:04] <dxdemetriou> BlueSwirl: thanks for help
[03:04] <BlueSwirl> dxdemetriou, no problem
[03:04] <grasshopper> poje: Mr Shuttleworth
[03:04] <BlueSwirl> dxdemetriou, sorry i wasn't more useful! ;-)
[03:04] <pHluid> Does anybody have any experience setting up accelerated graphics on an ATI 345M IGP or similiar?
[03:04] <bimberi> seife: which bit did you try?
[03:04] <pauliukas> pHluid: I was just asking the same question...
[03:04] <hugh__> distanceisdeath, yes. an itunes clone
[03:04] <Alethes> what more do I need to do so that firefox will see the JRE that I have installed via the package manager?
[03:04] <dxdemetriou> Someone knows if I can use the command like: tar  cpfz backup.tar --directory /mnt/hda1 from livecd to backup my whole system?
[03:04] <wastrel> it's raining
[03:05] <poje> pHluid: good luck, ATI drivers are notoriously bitchy
[03:05] <seife> bimberi: what u mean wich bit?
[03:05] <grasshopper> poje: are  you saying then that it is possible in gnome too? I thought you were sayuing gnome is for simpletons and is therefore stripped down and streamlined for simpicity?
[03:05] <distanceisdeath> is banshee worth it
[03:05] <distanceisdeath> ?
[03:05] <spikeb> worth what?
[03:05] <distanceisdeath> worth getting?
[03:05] <pHluid> poje: I've noticed. And the 345M seems to be the bitchiest of them all... but it IS apparently possible, somehow. :\
[03:05] <spikeb> distanceisdeath, probably
[03:05] <hugh__> distanceisdeath, I like rythembox but some like banshee
[03:05] <grasshopper> ubotu tell poje who mark shuttleworth is, hehe
[03:05] <westy> anyone else with a net511t?
[03:05] <westy> netgear
[03:05] <poje> grasshopper: I was saying that the most visible ways of configuring Gnome are stripped down
[03:05] <distanceisdeath> mkay
[03:05] <dxdemetriou> BlueSwirl: I will try the dump at least :)
[03:05] <sirius> hey does anyone else notice that in Ubuntu a wireless connection will periodically disconnect and reconnect?
[03:05] <bimberi> seife: diskmounter or the wikipage (in that mountwindows factoid)
[03:05] <BlueSwirl> dxdemetriou, read the mna page first!
[03:06] <sirius> through network manager?
[03:06] <poje> You can still do pretty much whatever, but it could be down to hacks/obscure witchcraft to do it
[03:06] <BlueSwirl> dxdemetriou, man page i mean
[03:06] <hugh__> distanceisdeath, rhythmbox*
[03:06] <sjh> I found out anyway http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/ tells me what the alternate image is for
[03:06] <wastrel> sirius: that happens to me
[03:06] <poje> Gnome is not for simpletons, the maintainers are just on a binge of removing complex configuration options
[03:06] <siriusnova> wastrel - how do you fix it?
[03:06] <Crescendo> Upgrade to dapper broke the system, it appeared to not initialize the display beyond the loading screen, as pressing the power button appeared to shut the system down safely... would this have to do with have two graphic cards?
[03:06] <Pepinito> hi
[03:06] <grasshopper> poje: oh, so it is actually more difficult then kde, i see
[03:06] <wastrel> siriusnova:  if you find out, let me know
[03:06] <pHluid> pauliukas: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1094437#post1094437 <-- similiar to your experience?
[03:06] <DarkTower> sirius: YEs!! i thought it was just me
[03:06] <siriusnova> its really really annoying to have my wifi connection drop in the middle of an install
[03:06] <BlueSwirl> Crescendo, something similar happened to my system, i had to force it to use the old kernel to get it to work
[03:06] <poje> grasshopper: depends on the situation ;)
[03:06] <Pepinito> can i uninstalled grub from the live-cd?
[03:07] <gimmulf> Hmmm i dont get any syntax highlightning in vim after upgrading to dapper
[03:07] <poje> I actually quite like Gnome
[03:07] <pauliukas> pHluid: Not really. I'm on the 320. I believe 2D acceleration is working, but I wanted 3D
[03:07] <Pepinito> and install LILO?
[03:07] <wastrel> i like gnome pretty good.
[03:07] <grasshopper> poje: so things are easier to do in kde, hmmm... i see  :(
[03:07] <poje> gimmulf: check your .vimrc
[03:07] <siriusnova> DarkTower - i think its a bug, it may have to do with low signal strength, maybe tho because in Windows at the same location my connection is low but it doesn't drop
[03:07] <skippy81> grasshopper, you could try "gconf-edior" and fiddle with the screensaver stuff in there
[03:07] <DarkTower> Alot of people in here experience the disconnection with wireless. Do the dev team know why this happens?
[03:07] <grasshopper> poje: well, this situation!
[03:07] <pHluid> pauliukas: Right, but you've tried the fglrx and radeon drivers already?
[03:07] <siriusnova> DarkTower - i dont think the dev team cares :(
[03:07] <pauliukas> Radeon yes, fglrlx nope.
[03:07] <grasshopper> skippy: and fiddle? great...
[03:07] <Crescendo> BlueSwirl, so would it upgrade properly, or is it still breezy when using the old kernel?
[03:07] <BlueSwirl> right, that's Objects in Space watched, time for bed i think
[03:07] <DarkTower> siriusnova: the dev team usually cares bout bugs
[03:07] <gimmulf> poje:  hmm dont have any
[03:08] <hugh__> Why is NetworkManager not picking up that I have network connections? It just sits there saying 'no network connection'. Yet I am connected and I have all my interfaces in the /etc/network/interfaces.
[03:08] <pauliukas> I've read a few blog entries and forum threads about it.
[03:08] <skippy81> grasshopper:  /apps/gnome-screensaver has soem options, and im sure you could search the net for some screensavers to add to knome
[03:08] <BlueSwirl> i have dapper with a different kernel on mine
[03:08] <Peregrino> bimberi: that worked out! could you tellme what I've done, please?? I' learning T__T
[03:08] <Pepinito> can I uninstalled GRUB from the live-cd and install LILO?
[03:08] <pauliukas> It involves changing the x config, which I've done. But it still doesn't "accelerate"
[03:08] <BlueSwirl> Crescendo, you just caught me before i left ;-)
[03:08] <poje> gimmulf: do a quick google for a vimrc tutorial :)
[03:08] <copyofjohan> does anyone knows a good howto for using xen 3 under dapper drake?
[03:08] <DarkTower> i have quite a high signla strength and it still cute out my wireless alot
[03:08] <Seouge> is it possible to update to dapper from breezy?
[03:08] <skippy81> hugh__: the network gui is useless, i just ignore it myslef
[03:08] <Madpilot> Seouge, yes
[03:09] <Crescendo> BlueSwirl, don't worry about it.
[03:09] <Seouge> Madpilot, how does one do it?
[03:09] <Crescendo> Enjoy the night.
[03:09] <poje> Seouge: sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:09] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Seouge about upgrade
[03:09] <grasshopper> skippy81, where is apps?
[03:09] <siriusnova> hmm anyone else have wireless connection problems where your connection will just drop and then reconnect?
[03:09] <siriusnova> it could be a buggy Network Manager applet
[03:09] <Seouge> thank you Madpilot
[03:09] <grasshopper> skippy81: /apps where?
[03:09] <pHluid> pauliukas: The "radeon" driver seems to work for me, but still show DRI as disabled, Mesa as the GL renderer, etc. fglrx just errors out with a "no device found" after install. :\
[03:09] <skippy81> grasshopper:  "gconf-editor" has folders inside it
[03:09] <siriusnova> DarkTower - what kind of wifi card do you have?
[03:09] <BlueSwirl> Crescendo, i type "old" at boot up screen, when it asks you what you want to boot (and you usually leave it blank and let it boot linux)
[03:09] <bimberi> Peregrino: sure :) - it mounts it so that that user has access to the partition (on the livecd the "ubuntu" user has uid 1000)
[03:09] <r0xoR> does anyone know what chipset to select for DMA when compiling a kernel for an iBook?
[03:09] <grasshopper> skippy81: which is where?
[03:10] <pauliukas> Well, pHluid, are you sure flrgx is compatible with our cards?
[03:10] <DarkTower> siriusnova: a standard intel in a laptop, well supported, but ive experienced it on other cards aswell
[03:10] <pvd2006> Does easyubuntu work well?
[03:10] <pauliukas> I heard that it's for 8500+
[03:10] <hugh__> skippy81, I am trying the use WPA with my wireless network and the WPAHowto in the wiki says to use the applet. ANd I keep have DHCP problems when I use the other configuartion metoed
[03:10] <hugh__> .
[03:10] <hugh__> method*
[03:10] <pauliukas> But IGP is based on the 7000 series
[03:10] <BlueSwirl> pvd2006, it didn't work for me, but i've heard good things in general
[03:10] <kbrooks_> pvd2006: yes
[03:10] <skippy81> grasshopper; open a terminal and type "gconf-editor"
[03:10] <Seouge> i'm getting this error message: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://koti.mbnet.fi breezy/ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/koti.mbnet.fi_%7eots_ubuntu_breezy_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:10] <Pepinito> I want to replace GRUB with LILO, can someone help me?
[03:10] <Crescendo> BlueSwirl, is this the same thing as when using GRUB, it lists all the old Kernels?
[03:10] <siriusnova> DarkTower - i have an atheros based pc-card, i thought it was something to do with signal strength as it usually happened for me when i was far from the signal source, but i guess its a bug
[03:11] <pHluid> pauliukas: No, I'm not sure at all. But I know it IS possible to accelerate it - I see forum posts about it, but I can't find any explanation of HOW it was done
[03:11] <BlueSwirl> Crescendo, i don't know, sorry :(
[03:11] <Peregrino> bimberi: thanks for teaching me ^^!! I really appreciate your kindness =D
[03:11] <avis> xgl is so neat !
[03:11] <BlueSwirl> Crescendo, good luck with your problem, i gotta run.
[03:11] <BlueSwirl> bye all
[03:11] <Crescendo> BlueSwirl, thanks anyways... you've been a great help.  Get some sleep!
[03:11] <skippy81> yeah xgl is good
[03:11] <copyofjohan> how do I get a real Trash-Symbol onto my Desktop?
[03:11] <pauliukas> pHluid: Check. lemme get that link to that blog
[03:11] <BlueSwirl> Crescendo, toodles
[03:11] <Seouge> anyone know how i can fix that?
[03:11] <giin1> I cant shutdown ubuntu.. in the meny I can only hibernate, log out, lock screen or switch user..
[03:11] <avis> hehe now i will unwindowsize me and use multiple desktops :)
[03:11] <Pepinito> how do i replace GRUB with LILO?
[03:11] <pauliukas> pHluid: Come into #ubuntu-ca less traffic in the channel
[03:12] <DarkTower> siriusnova: yeh it happens to me all the time, and my signal reads 97%, and theres no sources of interference here
[03:12] <wastrel> giin1:  sudo shutdown -h now doesn't work?
[03:12] <skippy81> Seouge:  "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and take the offending line out
[03:12] <giin1> no it doesnt work
[03:12] <DarkTower> siriusnova: i have a hotswitch for my card, i toggle it and it reconnects. it just happened then
[03:12] <siriusnova> DarkTower - that sucks, with a show stopping wifi bug like that they shouldn't have released Dapper
[03:12] <DarkTower> siriusnova: i get it in breezy
[03:12] <bimberi> Peregrino: np whatsoever, glad to help.  Note that the "man" command gives access to documentation.  In this case 'man mount'
[03:12] <edvinasMD5> how can i watch .avi format movies?
[03:12] <siriusnova> DarkTower - i get it in dapper :(
[03:12] <giin1> it says this> Usage:    shutdown [-akrhHPfnc]  [-t secs]  time [warning message]
[03:12] <giin1>                   -a:      use /etc/shutdown.allow
[03:12] <giin1>                   -k:      don't really shutdown, only warn.
[03:12] <giin1>                   -r:      reboot after shutdown.
[03:12] <giin1>                   -h:      halt after shutdown.
[03:12] <giin1>                   -P:      halt action is to turn off power.
[03:12] <bimberi> ubotu tell edvinasMD5 about restricted
[03:13] <giin1>                   -H:      halt action is to just halt.
[03:13] <giin1>                   -f:      do a 'fast' reboot (skip fsck).
[03:13] <giin1>                   -F:      Force fsck on reboot.
[03:13] <giin1>                   -n:      do not go through "init" but go down real fast.
[03:13] <giin1>                   -c:      cancel a running shutdown.
[03:13] <giin1>                   -t secs: delay between warning and kill signal.
[03:13] <skippy81> quit the spam and use pastebin pretty please
[03:13] <giin1>                   ** the "time" argument is mandatory! (try "now") **
[03:13] <MTecknology> giin1, watch the pasting
[03:13] <crimsun> giin1: that paste is a bit much; please use pastebin.
[03:13] <avis> pastebin.com only please
[03:13] <Peregrino> bimberi: thanks again ;)
[03:13] <avis> that is not allowed
[03:13] <poje> Yay for pasting man pages ;d
[03:13] <skippy81> lol
[03:13] <siriusnova> lol
[03:13] <tjs> anyone have ubuntu running successfully on parallels?
[03:13] <MTecknology> !tell giin1 about pastebin
[03:13] <siriusnova> wifi in ubuntu is buggy - maybe i should try the latest madwifi drivers from source?
[03:13] <giin1> tell me about pastebin
[03:13] <skippy81> just imagine if everyone pasted a man page, the whole freenode would go down :D
[03:14] <tjs> !tell tjs about parallels
[03:14] <Spleenfeeder> Has anyone got a remote control to work on a Leadtek Winfast 2000XP tv card in Dapper?
[03:14] <wastrel> giin1:  first, you should be careful about using commands that people give you on IRC
[03:14] <poje> I am going to play some Battlefield 2, so...yeah
[03:14] <giin1> well it is already down i think
[03:14] <poje> I'm sorta watching
[03:14] <DarkTower> !pastebin
[03:14] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[03:14] <wastrel> giin1:  second,  sudo shutdown -h now    is the command - i think you probably forgot to use the "now" at the end.
[03:14] <mnk> poor giin1
[03:14] <hugh__> How do I get WPA and dhcp to work together? I can't get them to co-exist
[03:14] <Madpilot> giin1, I muted you to stop that giant paste...
[03:14] <wastrel> giin1:  third:  welcome to the wonderful world of Usage:  messages!  enjoy :]
[03:15] <oomph> anyone have much experience setting up winbind with ubunto?
[03:15] <oomph> or can refer me to a good faq
[03:15] <giin1> I wont paste anymore.. but the weird boy muted me..
[03:16] <roaet> hello, anyone have the files: lilo and lilo.live ?
[03:16] <Madpilot> giin1, you're un-muted now...
[03:16] <roaet> I mean: lilo and lilo.real
[03:16] <fh|killy> can anyone give me an idea why i cannot boot Live CD's?  My dapper installer won't boot, so I tried my old Warty live cd, which used to work, but that doesn't work anymore either
[03:16] <jighead> I'm trying to get a Lucent ISA modem working, I see PnP detects the card on boot, but it does not show up in lspci, should devices on the ISA bus show up when you do lspci?
[03:16] <giin1> btw it woudnt shutdown..
[03:16] <oomph> giin1: are you familiar with setting up winbind?
[03:17] <DarkTower> fh|killy: you probably need to set boot options in bios
[03:17] <giin1> no im not..
[03:17] <kimbaroth> Is there a way to increase the desktop resolution to 1280x1024??? I have an nvidia card (6600GT) with the latests drivers.
[03:17] <oomph> opk
[03:17] <grasshopper> skippy81: waste of time, lol
[03:17] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: edit your xorg.conf file
[03:17] <fh|killy> DarkTower - what kind of options specifically?  I used to be able to boot into Warty live cd on this PC i think
[03:17] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: can you tell me how??? please^^
[03:17] <DarkTower> fh|killy: set the boot order to cd first
[03:18] <fh|killy> ah
[03:18] <fh|killy> my boot order is fine
[03:18] <fh|killy> its just that its failing to actually get past the 'loading' stage
[03:18] <DarkTower> fh|killy: then tell exactly what happens when you put the cd in and boot
[03:18] <fh|killy> ok
[03:18] <fh|killy> in Dapper, the Ubuntu install menu comes up
[03:18] <fh|killy> i select install -> it hangs at 'mounting root file system'
[03:18] <fh|killy> in Warty Live CD, it gets right up to the splash screen and the progress bar loaded to 99%, and hangs there
[03:19] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf .in that file inspect your monitor settings and see whether you can add 1280x1024 in front of the available resolutions in the screen settings
[03:19] <NoUse> fh|killy how did you download the ISO?
[03:19] <skippy> fh|killy,  try "noapic nolapic acpi=off" etc
[03:19] <DarkTower> fh|killy: anything wrong with your hardware?
[03:19] <fh|killy> nouse, i got my friend to download it, because i'm on ISDN, i checked md5 and its good
[03:19] <fh|killy> DarkTower not that i know of, thats what i'm trying to figure out
[03:19] <NoUse> fh|killy way ahead of me :-)
[03:19] <fh|killy> skippy - ok i'll try that, thanks, but what do you mean by "etc"?
[03:19] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: ok, lemme try
[03:19] <kevin_> http://krazypenguin.net/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_6.06_Guide#How_to_set_up_automatic_background_change_.28GNOME.29
[03:19] <kevin_> seems to be the answer to my question
[03:19] <legion> can someone tell me how to mount a windows partition real quick?  I can't remember (Xubuntu dapper)
[03:20] <kevin_> now all i have to do is learn phyton
[03:20] <fh|killy> mount -t vfat /dev/blah /mountdir
[03:20] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: gnomes screen res app will only allow you what your xorg.conf has allowed.
[03:20] <nbx909> hrm for some reason linux isn't reading this cd any reason why it would do that?
[03:20] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: so you have to edit xorg.conf
[03:20] <legion> aha!
[03:20] <skippy> fh|killy, only that you dont have to use them all together, just try adding the "noapic nolapic" first and see if it helps, if not try the acpi=off - there are lots of others as well, a few are listed on the CD
[03:20] <nbx909> all i get is a bunch of ???????
[03:20] <fh|killy> ok, thanks
[03:20] <Spleenfeeder> So, noone has a Leadtek Winfast card under dapper? ;/
[03:21] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: whats "Depth" inside the conf file?
[03:21] <Spleenfeeder> tv card that is
[03:21] <troy_s> spleenfeeder:  check mythtv for compat listings.
[03:21] <ZeZu> what is a good gui app for burning cds ?  i recall using one that was fairly nice but i dont remember the name
[03:21] <skippy> Spleenfeeder, i think those are known to work well actually - check the myth tv site out i think they list compatible hardware with linux
[03:21] <skippy> hehe troy_s got in there 1sr
[03:21] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: the bit depth, like 24 bit, 32 bit colour etc
[03:22] <skippy> :D
[03:22] <troy_s> skip:  laf.
[03:22] <troy_s> skip:  just dropped in too.
[03:22] <_darksoul> For the new dapper drake release, whats the better desktop on it, ubuntu or kubuntu
[03:22] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: just put 1280x1024 in front of the one listed as the default depth to begin with
[03:22] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: ohhhhh, the default depth is 24, can I increase it to 32???
[03:22] <troy_s> darksoul:  stop or you will start a religious war.
[03:22] <digikom> ZeZu: k3b is a good one
[03:22] <troy_s> darksoul:  let's just leave it at the belief that free software is about choice ;)
[03:22] <_darksoul> Well im just curious, im running kubuntu and whats diffrent with ubuntu
[03:23] <ZeZu> yes thats it thanks
[03:23] <skippy> _darksoul,  i see gnome as the lesser of two evils to be honest :)
[03:23] <AlienX> _darksoul, fluxbox
[03:23] <Spleenfeeder> I was hoping to not use mythtv, just something simpler like kdetv, or will looking at the mythtv site help me regardless
[03:23] <troy_s> zezu:  just use the default burner creator and go from there.
[03:23] <NoUse> !better
[03:23] <ubotu> Better for what? Better for whom? Why don't you try them all, then decide for yourself?
[03:23] <troy_s> spleen:  the latter.
[03:23] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: yep, and then change the 32 bit depth resolution
[03:23] <LinuxPoser> !tell LinuxPoser wine
[03:23] <skippy> lol i love the bot its so ... versitile :D
[03:23] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: oooooook
[03:23] <troy_s> laf ubotu knows better
[03:23] <NoUse> _darksoul I think Ubuntu is a bit more user friendly, but I find KDE more powerful but its all a matter of prefernce
[03:23] <troy_s> !sacrafice
[03:23] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, troy_s
[03:23] <LinuxPoser> !incest
[03:23] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, LinuxPoser
[03:23] <Pepinito> if you boot from a live-cd, how can you access your linux install?
[03:23] <newb> hi guyz
[03:23] <gnomefreak> please dont play with the bot
[03:24] <_darksoul> ugh, whats that new xubuntu like
[03:24] <Spleenfeeder> Ok will inspect mythtv site :)
[03:24] <gnomefreak> _darksoul: xfce
[03:24] <troy_s> darksoul:  you can try everything -- just flip through window managers.
[03:24] <ZeZu> anyone have problems with installing nvidia drivers on dapper ?
[03:24] <newb> is ubntu a good linux?
[03:24] <Madpilot> Pepinito, you can mount your hard drive partitions on the live CD
[03:24] <_darksoul> gnomefreak: other then that.. just like before right
[03:24] <skippy> ok heres the question, which is fastest out of kde and gnome? ive always been told gnome is more efficient - but its bloat makes up for it
[03:24] <NoUse> newb yes
[03:24] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: I need to restart I assume, rite?
[03:24] <ZeZu> skippy, gnome by far
[03:24] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: ctrl-alt-esc
[03:24] <legion> skippy: both are bloated.  Go Xubuntu
[03:24] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: to restart xserver
[03:25] <gnomefreak> _tacoman_: dappers xfce is a little different than breezys
[03:25] <newb> how can i register ?
[03:25] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: ok, sec
[03:25] <Madpilot> skippy, Dapper's Gnome (2.14) is smoking fast, it's amazing
[03:25] <gnomefreak> shoot
[03:25] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell newb about register
[03:25] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: I hope you backed up your old xorg.conf
[03:25] <newb> i want to be able to send private msgs
[03:25] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: yep
[03:25] <Pepinito> Madpilot: yeah, i want to do it to install LILO
[03:25] <ZeZu> could be a biased opinion though, i hate kde with a passion
[03:25] <MTecknology> !register
[03:25] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:25] <Madpilot> newb, see the PM you just got from ubotu
[03:25] <legion> AlienX: your hardcore bro
[03:25] <Pepinito> Madpilot: can you help me?
[03:25] <skippy> Madpilot, yeah i have to agree there, Ubuntu Dapper is very fast by default - i set up gentoo yesterday and it only boots 4 seconds quicker :)
[03:25] <Thumann> hi, any one got this file? libvc1-1.0.tar.gz (it's for VLC (mediaplayer))
[03:25] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: so if for any reason it all stuffs up, just copythe old one back  and try again :)
[03:25] <AlienX> legion, nah
[03:26] <skippy> and that was gentoo with no fancy modules etc
[03:26] <Thumann> trying to enable VC-1 support en videolan
[03:26] <roaet> Can someone please link me to the files: lilo and lilo.real
[03:26] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: Ok, But, Nuffin Happens
[03:26] <Madpilot> Pepinito, ATA or SATA harddrive?
[03:26] <Pepinito> Madpilot: SCSI
[03:26] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: Nothing happens when you do ctrl-alt-esc?
[03:26] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: Ill change the res from system>preferences>screen res??? aite?
[03:26] <Owner> hey
[03:27] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: yep, it makes a refresh, but nothing more
[03:27] <skippy> Thumann, have you tried installing VLCs extra plugin packs with synaptic?
[03:27] <Thumann> skippy: aye
[03:27] <Thumann> skippy:  it's not in it
[03:27] <Spleenfeeder> kimbaroth: log out and then do it, also make sure you changed the resolution line for the bot depth that you defaulted
[03:27] <Madpilot> Pepinito, OK. Do you know what the designation is of the partition you want to mount? (sda1, sda2, etc?)
[03:27] <Thumann> skippy: this is for WMV9 you know.. the hack DVD JON made..
[03:27] <kimbaroth> Spleenfeeder: ok, brb
[03:27] <Spleenfeeder> *bit
[03:27] <Pepinito> Madpilot: sda1
[03:28] <Madpilot> Pepinito, then type "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /home/ubuntu/"
[03:28] <Owner> my friend has a really old gateway computer...i mean really old...like 600MHZ old, and he wants to install ubuntu on it. I went to the BIOS and i changed to boot prioroty to make it boot from the CD drive but it just doesn't do that
[03:28] <Owner> Any idea why?
[03:28] <legion> You know, Xubuntu install never asked me for a root pw.  How do I mnt a windows part if I can't login as root?
[03:28] <mlalkaka> 2 keys on my keyboard are reporting the same scancode. however, the keys are meant to do different things. is it possible to change the scancode of one of the keys?
[03:28] <Madpilot> that should get all of sda1 accessible from ~
[03:28] <spikeb> !tell legion about root
[03:28] <giind> what do you like most.. Kubuntu or Ubuntu
[03:28] <skippy> im having a little look around for you now Thumann :)
[03:28] <slavik> ubuntu
[03:29] <robzilla1983> i just installed ubuntu. i've got a second hard drive. when i try to view it through Places -> Computer I get an error message saying "Unable to mount selected volume." "error: device /dev/hdb1 is not removable" "error: could not execute pmount"
[03:29] <robzilla1983> any idea on how to mount that?
[03:29] <Madpilot> legion, use sudo
[03:29] <Owner> when it loads into windows and i autoplay the cd drive, it works fine, so the problem isn't from the cd-rom drive
[03:29] <giind> I think Gnome is more simple than kde
[03:29] <troy_s> owner:  your boot priority isn't set correctly in bios.
[03:29] <tonyyarusso> giind: That's a converstion for -offtopic
[03:29] <troy_s> owner:  2nd check it... cd/dvd should be first in boot order.
[03:29] <slavik> giind: as gnome grows keeping it simple will be a problem
[03:29] <linxeh> how do I burn the Dapper PPC iso from Dapper itself ?
[03:29] <mlalkaka> robzilla1983: are you running dapper?
[03:30] <Owner> troy_s, i changed the order, it's the cd drive, then the floppy, then the network, and finally the hard drive
[03:30] <Peregrino|Away> Is there a way to write in an NTFS HD?
[03:30] <troy_s> linxeh:  complicated!  right click burn.
[03:30] <slavik> #ubuntu+1
[03:30] <Pepinito> Madpilot, i did
[03:30] <Madpilot> Peregrino|Away, not safely
[03:30] <linxeh> troy_s: sure, except the ISO wont fit on a CD
[03:30] <troy_s> linxeh:  :)
[03:30] <regeya> agree on gnome vs. kde being offtopic
[03:30] <gnomefreak> slavik: #ubuntu+1 is closed
[03:30] <slavik> why?
[03:30] <Madpilot> Pepinito, did that work?
[03:30] <troy_s> linxeh:  try a dvd then
[03:30] <robzilla1983> what is dapper?
[03:30] <gnomefreak> there is no +1
[03:30] <Pepinito> Madpilot, yes
[03:30] <regeya> whoa...ubuntu+1 is  open already?
[03:30] <Madpilot> Pepinito, cool
[03:30] <gnomefreak> dapper was released
[03:30] <regeya> oh heh
[03:30] <linxeh> troy_s: if I had a dvd writer I would
[03:30] <Peregrino> Madpilot: What do you mean?
[03:30] <robzilla1983> (i'm new to linux so please bear with)
[03:30] <michael117> robzilla1983: the newest release of ubuntu
[03:30] <regeya> I was just thinking...dapper is the current release now!
[03:30] <regeya> lol
[03:31] <slavik> gnomefreak: and edgy eft?
[03:31] <chales> are you able to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06 without having to burn another cd with the new version?
[03:31] <slavik> #join #dapper+1
[03:31] <gnomefreak> slavik: not out yet
[03:31] <Madpilot> Peregrino, there are ways to write to NTFS, apparently, but sometimes they eat your data...
[03:31] <bullrage> Peregrino, captive-ntfs
[03:31] <Spleenfeeder> Fair dinkum it's not straight forward setting up this remote is it?
[03:31] <regeya> what the devil is an eft
[03:31] <Pepinito> Madpilot, what's next?
[03:31] <regeya> mah
[03:31] <Madpilot> regeya, a young salamander
[03:31] <slavik> regeya: a young newt :)
[03:31] <regeya> meh even
[03:31] <grapegil> fair dinkum thinkum :)
[03:31] <NoUse> !eft
[03:31] <ubotu> it has been said that eft is a newt in its terrestrial stage of development - the release after Dapper will be called Edgy Eft.  For information and pictures of efts/newts, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt, or try !edgy
[03:31] <cluehammer> i'm a grumpy groundhog
[03:31] <grapegil> i should read that book again sometime.
[03:31] <rockz> i try compile a programa that include Xlib.h ... how i install this lib ?
[03:31] <giind> this is a bit to crowded dont you think)
[03:31] <slavik> gnomefreak: what if edgy eft had the devicescape kernel? what ya think?
[03:31] <bimberi> linxeh: you're using a 700MB CD?
[03:32] <lastnode> im a zany zebra
[03:32] <Peregrino> Madpilot: Eat your data? O_o
[03:32] <Madpilot> Pepinito, you should have all the stuff from sda1 mounted in /home/ubuntu now on your LiveCD session
[03:32] <robzilla1983>  on the main ubuntu website i click on "download" under desktop. and it's the 6.06 version that i'm running
[03:32] <gnomefreak> slavik: that is for #ubuntu-offtopic not inhere
[03:32] <Madpilot> need food, will be back later
[03:32] <michael117> robzilla1983: Ubuntu likes to release new versions of the distribution every 6 months to keep up to date and this one is version 6.06 after the year and the month
[03:32] <robzilla1983> i dont' know if that's dapper or not
[03:32] <Pepinito> Madpilot, there s a mistake
[03:32] <giind> you dont have to tell us madpilot
[03:32] <rockz> i try compile a program that include Xlib.h ... how i install this lib ?
[03:32] <skippy> Thumann, its almost impossible to find that package anywhere, all the links to it have gone dead :(
[03:32] <Pepinito> Madpilot, it mounted another disk
[03:32] <Pepinito> Madpilot,  i have four disks
[03:33] <troy_s> linxeh:  then remove files from the iso
[03:33] <basbryan> !botsnack
[03:33] <ubotu> thanks basbryan :)
[03:33] <Madpilot> Pepinito, you sure it was sda1 you wanted to mount?
[03:33] <troy_s> linxeh:  your options are pretty limited :)
[03:33] <lukaswayne9> I'm having troubling compiling the application gaim-rhythmbox on ubuntu.  It complains that I don't have gtk-dev installed, but I do.   What might be the problem?
[03:33] <mshade> ubotu, xgl
[03:33] <ubotu> rumour has it, xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[03:33] <Owner> troy_s, any idea what might cause it?
[03:33] <robzilla1983> so do you know if there's anything I can do to try and mount that hard drive?
[03:33] <troy_s> lukas:  you need -dev and if you have it, you might not have the correct version or you might need to tell the make where it is at.
[03:34] <robzilla1983> there's also half of my main drive that i can't get on, same error message, but i'm not too concerned about that. all my stuff is backed up on the 2nd drive though
[03:34] <troy_s> owner:  upgrade the bios?
[03:34] <Owner> troy_s, how would i do that?
[03:34] <chales> So, r u able to upgrade from an old version of ubuntu without having to burn a new cd?
[03:34] <troy_s> owner:  you are 100% certain that the boot is set to cd for first?
[03:34] <troy_s> owner:  then reboot from scratch with the disk in before post
[03:34] <skippy> robzilla1983,  what format is the parition you want to access?
[03:34] <bimberi> chales: yes
[03:34] <Thumann> hey.. can anyone check if they have this file; libvc1-1.0.tar.gz ?
[03:34] <chales> cool
[03:34] <bimberi> ubotu tell chales about upgrade
[03:34] <Ron_o> hey guys, skippy and all.
[03:34] <crimsun> Thumann: no, no one would by default
[03:34] <troy_s> owner:  if that fails, you might have a firmware bios issue... you will need to locate the make / model and find the motherboard, then track down the bios firmware
[03:34] <skippy> hello Ron_o
[03:34] <Ron_o> I got my iso mounted and I'm updating from it.
[03:35] <troy_s> yay Ron_o
[03:35] <Ron_o> I mounted it in /media/cdrom.
[03:35] <robzilla1983> i would guess ntfs. i haven't checked the format of it since i bought it two and a half years ago, but as a rule i tend to use ntfs so that's mostly likely it
[03:35] <troy_s> ron_o: congrats... hopefully that will help you out.
[03:35] <Ron_o> the only problem there was is I had to keep remounting it.
[03:35] <Ron_o> we'll see.
[03:35] <Ron_o> if it doesn't I know how to do it now.
[03:35] <Owner> troy_s, can i load the cd from ms-dos?
[03:35] <Thumann> crimsun: it's for VLC WMV9 support.. link on mainpage is down though.. and i can see it mentioned a few times in the ubuntu forums.. so it could be somebody had it..
[03:35] <Ron_o> and I'm going to have to get some books on Linux.
[03:35] <jime> owner: i have had to replace the cdrom on the older gateways... the cdrom will work fine except it wont read a cd from boot
[03:35] <skippy> well you can mount it easily, robzilla1983 - try just doing it with the graphical tool first
[03:35] <Ron_o> I really am lacking fundamentals.
[03:35] <BlueEagle> !xgl
[03:35] <ubotu> xgl is probably "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[03:35] <Ron_o> thanks for the help!
[03:35] <troy_s> ron_o:  how linux works is a great book if you want one to hold onto... and everything from oreilly.
[03:36] <Flory_> Sorry if anyone responded to my question I was disconnected and I didn't see the response
[03:36] <blanky> what's the ubuntu development channel
[03:36] <blanky> #ubuntu-dev?
[03:36] <eduardo> compartilhamento de pasta no funciona
[03:36] <troy_s> ron_o: no starch press -- how linux works
[03:36] <Ron_o> I'll look, troy_s .I know about Oreilly.
[03:36] <crimsun> Thumann: you can download it from dvdjon's Web site.
[03:36] <robzilla1983> what's the graphical tool ?
[03:36] <Ron_o> thanks.
[03:36] <blanky> Guys, where's the ubuntu development channel
[03:36] <eduardo> alguem fala portugues?
[03:36] <gnomefreak> !pt
[03:36] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:36] <Seouge> problem: Couldn't stat source package list http://koti.mbnet.fi breezy/ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/koti.mbnet.fi_%7eots_ubuntu_breezy_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:36] <Thumann> crimsun: like i said.. link is down
[03:36] <skippy> robzilla1983,  make a new folder on your desktop called "ntfs" and use the discs tool under "system", find the partition and mount it under the folder you made - should give you read only access to it
[03:36] <Seouge> i'm getting that message when i try to apt-get something, what do i do?
[03:37] <delire> i'm currently in Debian assisting a friend of mine whose just upgraded to Dapper but is now offline. while she can log-in she is dumped straight back to the login screen. any ideas there? ~/.xsession-errors says Nautilus can't connect to the display, so we've been deleting ~/.ICEAuthority each time to get in..
[03:37] <eduardo>  que l ninguem responde
[03:37] <NoUse> Seouge run 'sudo apt-get update'
[03:37] <gnomefreak> Seouge: open the /etc/apt/sources.list and add a 3 to the fronnt of that repo
[03:37] <Ron_o> I was talking to others in offtopic but they thought I had to boot to upgrade.
[03:37] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell eduardo -about pt
[03:37] <blanky> gnomefreak, he said no one listens/responds I think
[03:37] <Ron_o> it's a bit confusing to tell you the truth.
[03:37] <ic56> robzilla1983: there is a standard script to do all this.  It so happens I recently updated it.  Wanna be my guiney pig?
[03:37] <troy_s> eduardo:  google translate!
[03:37] <bimberi> blanky: #ubuntu-devel
[03:37] <blanky> thanks bimberi
[03:38] <bimberi> blanky: np
[03:38] <Thumann> crimsun: http://nanocrew.net/sw/ is deleted aparantly
[03:38] <troy_s> ron_o:  it's just because you are a bit new to the whole open source way... don't worry... it will grow on you and you will wonder why the hell you started off in the other zone.
[03:38] <Owner> jime, is it easy to install a Desktop's external cd-rom drive into the laptop?
[03:38] <crimsun> Thumann: google for an archive
[03:38] <eduardo> thanks I go to ubuntu-pt
[03:38] <troy_s> ron_o:  a lot of the commercial operating system bits don't make much sense, but because you grew into them, you take them as 'standard'.
[03:38] <eduardo> bye
[03:38] <Ron_o> it's all fundamentals that's all.
[03:39] <Ron_o> exactly!
[03:39] <robzilla1983> skippy: what happens if i don't have enough room to mount it? my second drive is about 76 gigs, and i have less then 40 gigs free on my primary disc
[03:39] <Ron_o> I've had way more problems on my Win Machine.
[03:39] <troy_s> ron_o:  which is why "how linux works" is awsome -- it tells you exactly how a linux system works -- without getting distro specific.
[03:39] <Thumann> crimsun:  -_- and you didn't think i did that before asking here?
[03:39] <troy_s> ron_o:  i can't recommend it enough.
[03:39] <Ron_o> I would spend hours killing adware and the like.
[03:39] <ic56> robzilla1983: mounting doesn't occupy any space.
[03:39] <troy_s> ron_o:  make no mistake, malicious computer attacks don't stop with linux.
[03:39] <skippy> robzilla1983,  mounting doesnt require much space :) its not like your copying the contents - just making linux able to "see" them
[03:39] <crimsun> Thumann: the chances of you finding an archive are pretty slim in here...
[03:39] <troy_s> ron_o:  security is security, it is here to stay as much as crime is in the outside world.
[03:40] <skippy> Ron_o, yeah in many ways a linux box is a far jucier target - its a credit to linux that half of the www stays up :)
[03:40] <robzilla1983> skippy: do you just change the access path in the partitions tab?
[03:40] <Ron_o> I know that.
[03:40] <Thumann> crimsun:   you've been a great addition to my search
[03:40] <skippy> yeah robzilla1983 , that access path is the mount point
[03:40] <Ron_o> I know security isn't absolute.
[03:40] <B0FH> ok i installed frostwire why will it not run?
[03:40] <troy_s> ron_o:  little known fact:  there are more linux exploits out there than windows.
[03:41] <seife> i need heko
[03:41] <troy_s> ron_o:  we all need to learn a step or two from openbsd...
[03:41] <seife> help
[03:41] <gnomefreak> B0FH: do you have java installed and working?
[03:41] <Flory_> How do I rename my xorg.conf_backup to xorg.conf in the terminal?
[03:41] <bullrage> Is there a command to give my user constant root access without su - or sudo?
[03:41] <Seouge> gnomefreak, what am i supposed to put a 3 in front of
[03:41] <skippy> Ron_o,  start with a strong admin password, and dont enable ssh until your password contains multiple non-dictionary words and numbers
[03:41] <troy_s> flory:  mv
[03:41] <B0FH> gnomefreak: um....yes i think so
[03:41] <gnomefreak> Seouge: not a 3 a #
[03:41] <seife> how do i reproduce formats like .asx or .ram to see tv on the internet, totem tells me that i need the decoder, i already installed the w32 codecs and nothing happened
[03:41] <Spleenfeeder> Flory sudo mv xorg.conf_backup xorg.conf
[03:41] <skippy> that will stop 80% of hackers
[03:41] <gnomefreak> B0FH: what does java -version output?
[03:41] <Flory_> Thanks :)
[03:42] <gnomefreak> B0FH: dont paste it just give me an idea
[03:42] <digikom> bullrage:  sudo -s for root shell
[03:42] <skippy> it really makes me laugh when i hear about someones "apple32" account getting hacked
[03:42] <Ron_o> troy_s, you might be right but not for one disto, re exploits.
[03:42] <delire> troy_s: that is hardly true.
[03:42] <B0FH> gnomefreak: 1.4.2
[03:42] <gnomefreak> B0FH: is it gjc?
[03:42] <gnomefreak> or gcj?
[03:42] <delire> troy_s: Linux is open about all it's known exploits. proprietary operating systems certainly aren't.
[03:42] <gnomefreak> something like that B0FH ?
[03:42] <Ron_o> delire, there are for all the linux distos combined.
[03:43] <bullrage> digikom, I'm trying to move files from one partition to another but can't do this without using sudo
[03:43] <delire> Ron_o: yes of course, including non-critical local exploits.
[03:43] <Ron_o> sure.
[03:43] <B0FH> gnomefreak: gij?
[03:43] <troy_s> delire:  just talking quantities... linux is a heavy target because of its place in webservers... but alas, offtopic.
[03:43] <linxeh> bullrage: change the permissions on the target directory
[03:43] <Ron_o> that's what some study said.
[03:43] <Flory_> How do I restart linux in the terminal?
[03:43] <delire> Flory_: sudo reboot -n
[03:43] <linxeh> Flory_, : sudo reboot
[03:43] <Ron_o> but they were using a linux distros as one.
[03:43] <Ron_o> all*
[03:43] <skippy> im a bit of a secrutity noob - can mysql, php, apache etc be run from a chrooted environment? and would doing that prevent someone from being able to take your entire box offline?
[03:44] <gnomefreak> B0FH: paste the output of java -version to pastebin please
[03:44] <B0FH> gnomefreak:  ok
[03:44] <linxeh> skippy: yes, and no
[03:44] <robzilla1983> skippy: i can't see my desktop when i click that change button for access path
[03:44] <xxyyzz> How would I use the terminal to look for a hidden file called '.ircrc'?
[03:44] <kimbaroth> Hi there again, i messed up my xorg.cong, how can I re edit it from the live CD
[03:44] <bderrly> ls -a
[03:44] <linxeh> xxyyzz: locate .ircrc
[03:44] <delire> Ron_o: yes, i remember the study, and they were including proof-of-concept local exploits.
[03:44] <linxeh> or ls -a :)
[03:44] <B0FH> gnomefreak: http://pastebin.com/758853
[03:44] <gnomefreak> ty brb
[03:44] <bderrly> kimbaroth, vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:44] <bullrage> linxeh, when right clicking the folder i want to copy to, and putting a tick in the read/write/execute boxes, the tick disappears straight away
[03:44] <Ron_o> MS's influence goes deep.
[03:45] <skippy> robzilla1983,  i dont understand "I cant see my desktop" ?
[03:45] <Ron_o> OS will win because it's real freedom.
[03:45] <Ron_o> and ideas get mixed.
[03:45] <Ron_o> Closed Source is like the Great Wall of China.
[03:45] <linxeh> bullrage: what filesystem is the target ?
[03:45] <xxyyzz> I'll try that, thanks
[03:45] <skippy> oh robzilla i see what you mean, you need to browse to /home/yourname/desktop to find it
[03:45] <bullrage> linxeh, ntfs, using captive-ntfs to write
[03:45] <gnomefreak> B0FH: install java please
[03:45] <linxeh> bullrage: and do you have permission to change it? you might want to try from the command line using sudo chmod
[03:45] <linxeh> urgh
[03:45] <linxeh> :o
[03:45] <gnomefreak> B0FH: are you on dapper?
[03:45] <B0FH> gnomefreak:  yes
[03:45] <linxeh> why do it this way? why not get ext2 support into windows? it is more reliable
[03:46] <ic56> robzilla1983: to what did you set the mountpoint for your NTFS drive?  Hopefully not the location of your desktop?
[03:46] <xxyyzz> Okay, "locate .ircrc" did nothing, no error or anything, just went to the next line...
[03:46] <deshantm_> does anybody how to setup ekiga?
[03:46] <grapegil> hmm. last time i installed ubuntu, it came with no compilers.
[03:46] <bderrly> xxyyzz, ls -a
[03:46] <kimbaroth> anyone???
[03:46] <deshantm_> !sip
[03:46] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, deshantm_
[03:46] <xxyyzz> And "cd /" "ls -a *ircrc*" did "no such file or directory"
[03:46] <grapegil> that pissed me off enough to immediately uninstall it :-?
[03:46] <skippy> linxeh, yeah but ext2 isnt used much linxeh, and ext3 isnt readable in windows i dont htink
[03:46] <robzilla1983> skippy: i put a folder on my desktop called ntfs. i don't know what you meant about setting the mountpoint
[03:46] <gnomefreak> B0FH: run sudo update-alternatives --config java
[03:46] <deshantm_> !ekiga
[03:46] <ubotu> somebody said ekiga was full-featured SIP and H.323 compatible VoIP, IP-Telephony and Videoconferencing application that allows you to make audio and video calls to remote users with SIP and H.323 hardware or software.
[03:46] <bullrage> linxeh, because I don't plan on rebooting for a while, and the ntfs drive is a backup drive with a lot of data on it so I don't want to format it, just write data
[03:46] <bderrly> kimbaroth, i answered you above
[03:46] <varsendaggr> ahhh i can't  uninstall foxytunes     from firefox   or rather i installed it with sudo and now i can only get it with sudo
[03:46] <gnomefreak> B0FH: how many choices does that give you?
[03:47] <skippy> robzilla1983,  use the disks utilitys, and use the ntfs folder as the "access point", then enable the ntfs partition
[03:47] <ic56> robzilla1983: to what did you set the "access path"?
[03:47] <B0FH> gnomefreak:  2 with a *+ next to the number 2
[03:47] <robzilla1983> skippy: access path is that folder on my desktop
[03:47] <deshantm_> i setup an account, but don't know what to put in for the registrar
[03:47] <kbrosnan> varsendaggr, extensions are dependent on the user
[03:47] <skippy> good, now enable the volume and you should be able to get into your disk through the ntfs folder
[03:48] <varsendaggr> where are firefox extensions installed then?
[03:48] <deshantm_> i can't find any docs on google or the wike that are useful
[03:48] <cached> my sound stopped working ever since i upgraded to dapper
[03:48] <gnomefreak> B0FH: enable multiverse repo and install java 1.5 or use the wiki to install java from sunjava (i perfer the latter
[03:48] <gnomefreak> ubotut ell B0FH about java
[03:48] <kbrosnan> varsendaggr, you need to install it again for your normal use
[03:48] <bullrage> linxeh, any idea?
[03:48] <kimbaroth> Hi there again, i messed up my xorg.conf, how can I re edit it??? im ussing the live cd rite now (and I dont know how to access the /etc/x11/xorg.cong of my installed system from here).
[03:48] <B0FH> ok
[03:48] <xxyyzz> bderrly, got any other ideas?
[03:48] <Lolita__19X--> Hi guys, i want to change the file associations in ubuntu, can someone help me???
[03:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell B0FH about java
[03:48] <cached> how do i fix my sound? my sound stopped working ever since i upgraded to dapper...
[03:48] <skippy> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" kimbaroth
[03:48] <robzilla1983> skippy: i dont' see anything about setting an access point
[03:48] <varsendaggr> kbrosnan, it is there but it is jsut a red carrot
[03:48] <ic56> robzilla1983: what *exactly* did you type as the "access path"?  You probably typed it wrong.
[03:48] <Pjott> Hi!
[03:49] <varsendaggr> ohh i get it
[03:49] <Pjott> Just tried to install Ubuntu
[03:49] <bderrly> cached, run alsamixer, are any of the channels muted?
[03:49] <varsendaggr> i need to uninstalle with sudo
[03:49] <robzilla1983> i just clicked the change button and it brought up another window, then i browsed to my foler from there
[03:49] <linxeh> Pjott: congratulations on picking the best distro :)
[03:49] <skippy> robzilla1983,  good youve done it
[03:49] <couger> I need a pointer for a read me on getting smb configured if possible.
[03:49] <cached> bderrly: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[03:49] <JustinLynn> Pjott>how'd it go?
[03:49] <skippy> now just click "ENABLE"
[03:49] <Lolita__19X--> Can someone help me, i want to change the file association for MP3 in ubuntu ???.. :S please helpe!...
[03:49] <Pjott> linxeh: Let's discuss that some more, shall we?
[03:49] <Pjott> I got "Freq. Error" on my screen. Not from Ubuntu, but from the crappy thing in the monitor-machine
[03:49] <bderrly> cached, is the module for your sound card loaded?
[03:49] <skippy> Lolita__19X--,  right click on an mp3 file and choose the program
[03:50] <cached> bderrly: how can i tell?
[03:50] <Pjott> I also tried to increase it to 800x640
[03:50] <Pjott> Still did not work :s
[03:50] <Lolita__19X--> @skyppy: yeah i know, bu i want to double click on the file and get it open automatically with the prog i choose :(
[03:50] <bderrly>  /sbin/lsmod
[03:50] <cached> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[03:51] <bderrly> cached, look for ac97..i think that is what it is called anyway
[03:51] <robzilla1983> under the "Status" part in the partitions tab, it says Accessible, and the button actually says "Disable" , and there's a "Browse" button next to it
[03:51] <yurka> 8
[03:51] <skippy> Lolita__19X--,  yeah that should work right click "properties" and then "opens with"
[03:51] <cached> bderrly: where?
[03:51] <skippy> robzilla good, now leave that screen and open the ntfs folder on your desktop
[03:51] <bderrly> in the output of `lsmod'
[03:51] <Lolita__19X--> @skippy: ok i'm going to try that
[03:52] <robzilla1983> there's nothing in the folder
[03:52] <bderrly> eeek, they are directories, not folders
[03:52] <bderrly> no winspeak here
[03:52] <Pjott> I've been looking ALL over the place on the monitor's menu for frequenzy settings. I'm in Windows XP Professional now. Should I put it down to MAXXX-Low from here and retry?
[03:52] <Lolita__19X--> @skippy: HEY thanks a LOT!!
[03:52] <edvinasMD5> how can i mount my windows hard drive from linux?
[03:52] <skippy> np Lolita__19X--
[03:52] <Lolita__19X--> @skyppy: that worked great!
[03:53] <robzilla1983> should there be something in my ntfs directory then ? because it's empty
[03:53] <wims> Pjott,  make sure you find out what your monitor can handle
[03:53] <Lolita__19X--> Can anyone recommend me a good python editor, and a good ftp client for Ubuntu?
[03:53] <skippy> robzilla1983,  if you have mounted the ntfs volume correctly in disks it will show up under its access point
[03:53] <ice_1963> Window's xp what's that...:)-
[03:53] <wims> i have permanently dmaged a monitor by chooisng wrong frequencies, although that was an old monitor
[03:53] <seife> How do i play video formats like .ram or .asx that are used for an internet tv channel? i installed gxine, w32codecs, nothing works. HELP
[03:54] <couger> hell they used to be directories in dos as well before winblows gobbled everything up on that side.
[03:54] <gearry> I just upgraded to Dapper, and decided to try out rhythmbox
[03:54] <skippy> does anyone know how to mount an ntfs volume from the shell please?
[03:54] <robzilla1983> then i don't think i mounted it correctly
[03:54] <delire> Lolita__19X--: i like vim for python, and gftp as an ftp client.
[03:54] <Ron_o> seife, ram would be realplayer..
[03:54] <bderrly> skippy, yes
[03:54] <gearry> I can't get it to work at all, I launch it, get the setup screen, and it hangs
[03:54] <Ron_o> I updated through their website, IIRC.
[03:54] <Lolita__19X--> yeah but vim indents automatically and colors the text?
[03:54] <catchjosh> Can anyone recommend a specific Postfix GUI (Web-based administrations work, too...)?
[03:54] <WoodwardAve> skippy: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/(device here) /(mountpoint)
[03:54] <Ron_o> or you could try to do so with apt or synaptic.
[03:54] <lightstar> Lob-Sogular, for ftp you can use grtp
[03:54] <ic56> skippy: I know how to mount an NTFS volume from the CLI.  What's the problem?
[03:54] <gearry> I can't even kill -9 the damned thing
[03:54] <lightstar> Lob-Sogular, gftp
[03:55] <Pjott> I have a HITACHI CM823F 21" CRT Dual Screen. It should handle it. My settings in Windows are: 60 Hertz. On my Monitor's Menu, I have: 53 kHz / 60 Hertz
[03:55] <Ron_o> asx, I'm not sure but there is a way.
[03:55] <delire> Lolita__19X--: it colours the text yes, with :syn on.
[03:55] <delire> Lolita__19X--: it indents with ">>"
[03:55] <navarone> I must say xfce4 in dapper is sweet
[03:55] <kimbaroth> bderrly: vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf wont worked, it opens the xorg.conf of the live CD not the one that i was using in my installed system
[03:55] <wims> Pjott,  you need to look in the manual for horizontal and vertical frequency ranges
[03:55] <Ron_o> navarone, is it?
[03:55] <Ron_o> what's the diff?
[03:55] <Pjott> wims: Will do! ;)
[03:55] <wims> and then adjust your xorg.conf so that it matches your min and max ranges
[03:55] <robzilla1983> under the disc utility, if the status says accessible, if i disable then enable, will that actually delete anything off that disc?
[03:55] <Pjott> wims: For Ubuntu, or the Monitor?
[03:55] <wims> for the monitor
[03:56] <Pjott> Sure
[03:56] <Pjott> But I thought the "VGA" modus in Ubuntu CD-Boot should fiX such stuff, or atleast Ignore'em? :s
[03:56] <bderrly> kimbaroth, you need to mount the hard drive and edit the file...  mount -t ext3 /dev/hda /mnt/foo && vi /mnt/foo/etc/X11/xorg.conf ...obviously you need to edit the device and mount point but you get the idea
[03:56] <navarone> Ron_o: I have relatively old machine...1.2ghz athlon...xfce uses it well...512mb ram
[03:56] <skippy> ok cool, robzilla1983 there you have it - open a terminal now type "sudo mkdir media/ntfs" then type "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda? /media/ntfs" changing the questionmark for the number of your partition
[03:56] <Pjott> ah
[03:56] <Ron_o> hehe, navarone I have an older machine by about a year or two. :)
[03:56] <bderrly> kimbaroth, if you have grub installed you can also use the recovery mode option to get to a command line and edit your xorg.conf that way
[03:56] <Ron_o> half RAM, 1/3 CPU.
[03:56] <Pjott> This was freaky
[03:57] <Pjott> I just took it down to 800x640 in Windows :s
[03:57] <skippy> robzilla1983,  no it wont, but i really cant see what you are doing wrong, try the command line method
[03:57] <delire> Lolita__19X--: but there are many good GUI IDE's around for python.
[03:57] <Pjott> wims: I've never seen you so close to me before :s
[03:57] <navarone> Ron...it is a bit minimalistic but cutomizing the panels and such is elegant and I found intuitive
[03:57] <skippy> WoodwardAve,  thanks for that
[03:57] <Ron_o> I think XFCE is great.
[03:57] <Ron_o> it's all I need, expecially with the plugins.
[03:58] <skippy> does XFCE work with compiz?
[03:58] <Kevin__> hey im lookin for some help
[03:58] <bderrly> congratulations
[03:58] <robzilla1983> when i try the command line i get an error message saying no such file or directory exists
[03:58] <skippy> im quite a compiz fan = well i like the effects which tax the gfx card and not the cpu anyway
[03:58] <gnomefreak> Kevin__: if you dont tell us what the issue is how do we help you?
[03:58] <Ron_o> Kevin__, that's what we're here fer'
[03:58] <Kevin__> lol
[03:58] <seife> How do i play video formats like .ram or .asx that are used for an internet tv channel? i installed gxine, w32codecs, nothing works. HELP
[03:58] <DarkMageZ> skippy, yeah, JKnife has gotten it to work, xubuntu is #xubuntu
[03:58] <skippy> robzilla1983,  which command ?
[03:58] <Kevin__> ok how do i run GUI in the server version
[03:59] <bderrly> seife, someone already answered you above
[03:59] <robzilla1983> sudo mkdir media/ntfs
[03:59] <skippy> cool DarkMageZ i might try it some time :)
[03:59] <Ron_o> seife, I already said that ram is realplayer...
[03:59] <Ron_o> and asx I don't know right now.
[03:59] <seife> sorry, i didnt change the question its just .asx
[03:59] <Whoops> anyone know why flashplayer is not downloading
[03:59] <spikeb> asx is windows media
[03:59] <navarone> skippy I haven't got nvidia driver installed to systems satisfaction. may need a fresh install...but no matter. I never ran many 3d apps or games anyway
[03:59] <Ron_o> oh, :)
[03:59] <bderrly> Kevin__, you need to install the xserver packages and gnome, etc
[03:59] <seife> spikeb: how do i install windows media in linux?
[03:59] <bderrly> i would recommend installing ubuntu-desktop
[03:59] <Kevin__> i think i did
[03:59] <Ron_o> seife, there's a huge page in ubuntu.wiki on that subject.
[04:00] <skippy> robzilla try "sudo mkdir -p /media/ntfs" then
[04:00] <Ron_o> try there since no one here knows. or wants to help.
[04:00] <ajax4> !flash
[04:00] <ubotu> Installation & troubleshooting for Flash is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:00] <bderrly> flash sucks
[04:00] <yaru> how do i disable the touchpad on the laptop? it's been very annoying when i type
[04:00] <Lolita__19X--> Does anyone knows why my XGL crashes X after a while u__u
[04:00] <navarone> !nvidia
[04:00] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:00] <Whoops> thanks
[04:00] <skippy> navarone,  yeah the drivers are a pain, mine a quite buggy
[04:00] <bderrly> yaru, have you checked the bios of the laptop?
[04:00] <walo> Hi
[04:01] <navarone> skippy...I'ver tried everything...lol
[04:01] <yaru> bderrly, yes i have... it's phoenix blah blah ; when there was no option to turn it off
[04:01] <Pjott> wims: I've set everything to "Low" now.
[04:01] <Pjott> wims: Hope this'll be alright (-:
[04:01] <Whoops> bbl
[04:01] <bderrly> yaru, hmm, i don't know how to disable on a live system i can disable mine in bios...
[04:01] <KevinIN72> Ok how do I start gnome
[04:01] <troy_s> seine:  windows media is laden with problems.
[04:01] <Pjott> So, See you guys soon I hope! =)
[04:01] <kimbaroth> bderrly: with the recovery console what do I type???  vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf ???
[04:01] <robzilla1983> okay. that line worked. what should i try next in terminal ?
[04:01] <troy_s> seine:  best bet is to script and vert all of your stuff away from it.
[04:01] <Lolita__19X--> Does anyone knows why my XGL crashes X after a while
[04:01] <bderrly> kimbaroth, yep
[04:01] <troy_s> lolita:  yes i do
[04:01] <robzilla1983> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda? /media/ntfs?
[04:01] <bderrly> Lolita__19X--, because it is alpha software
[04:01] <kimbaroth> bderrly ook lemme try
[04:02] <troy_s> lolita:  its because the drivers for nvidia and ati are proprietary and closed source and therefore the community can't fix the problems.  we must wait for those companies.
[04:02] <Lolita__19X--> oh that sucks..
[04:02] <skippy> Lolita__19X--,  i assume you have read the thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148351&highlight=xgl+compiz+thread+rule ?
[04:02] <Gold_man> quit
[04:02] <yaru> bderrly, which option did you turn it off? probably i might have missed something at bios?
[04:03] <troy_s> lolita:  some bugs are in xgl/compiz -- many are in the interaction between the card and the drivers.
[04:03] <bderrly> yaru, hmm, i don't recall, i did it a while ago
[04:03] <delire> Lolita__19X--: XGL is pre-alpha software. it'll all work pretty well soon enough. give it 6 months.
[04:03] <Saad_> Does anybody know the correct "Time Zone" for people living in CST and in Texas or somewhere close to there?
[04:03] <skippy> my xgl is rock solid, but i have annoying niggles - windows resize poorly, no vsync on the desktop etc
[04:03] <crimsun> Saad_: CDT, normally.
[04:03] <Saad_> Ah.
[04:03] <Saad_> Ok, let me check.
[04:03] <skippy> hehe what does CDT stand for?
[04:04] <skippy> central dessert time? :D
[04:04] <bderrly> Central Daylight Time
[04:04] <skippy> ah i c :_
[04:04] <valehru> hmm...is there a way to minimise the xchat to the system tray?
[04:04] <KevinIN72> can anyone help me with switchin to GUI
[04:04] <skippy> KevinIN72,  what do you mean?
[04:04] <yaru> bderrly, that's fine then :) thanks so much though
[04:04] <st3v3dnd> Does anyone know of any dedicated or virtual hosting providers that support the Dapper Server version?
[04:04] <bderrly> KevinIN72, if you have installed all the gnome/xserver/gdm crap then sudo gdm
[04:04] <KevinIN72> so i type gdm??
[04:05] <bderrly> yaru, sorry i couldn't help more
[04:05] <robzilla1983> skippy: i got the sudo mkdir -p /media/ntfs to correctly work. what should i try next ?
[04:05] <bderrly> KevinIN72, give it a whirl
[04:05] <Lolita__19X--> thanks guys
[04:05] <skippy> st3v3dnd, as far as i know most hosts dont like to make clear what machines  they use - you just get a directory in a webserver tree
[04:05] <D-side> any urls or info on making nvidia drivers go in dapper?
[04:05] <KevinIN72> 'sudo gdm' command not found
[04:05] <Lolita__19X--> one last question : how can i setup gaim so it starts when i start ubuntu ??... :)
[04:05] <slavik> !tell D-side about nvidia
[04:05] <gnomefreak> KevinIN72: trying to start an x-session?
[04:05] <slavik> Lolita__19X--: look into gnome-session-manager
[04:05] <bderrly> Lolita__19X--, add it to your session... System->Preferences->Sessions
[04:06] <D-side> slavik: thanks.
[04:06] <st3v3dnd> skippy: I'm not talking about shared hosting. I'm looking for dedicated or virtual hosting where you have root access.
[04:06] <slavik> np
[04:06] <shodanjr_gr> anyone who says that linux is fit for the casual user should burn in hell...thats what my experience for the past 4 hours or so has taught me :p
[04:06] <skippy> robzilla1982. now do "ls /media/ntfs/" does anything come up ?
[04:06] <slavik> shodanjr_gr: linux is getting there ... slowly but surely
[04:06] <buffarama> i just upgraded from breezy to dapper, and X11 won't start. I was running gnome, and now it says no screens found.
[04:06] <KevinIN72> gnomefreak: how would i start that
[04:06] <gireeshm> got a silly q
[04:06] <robzilla1983> skippy: nothing came up
[04:06] <gireeshm> what is the ubuntu color name?
[04:06] <Lolita__19X--> *thanks*