[06:32] <czajkowski> aloha
[06:39] <bkerensa> aloha
[06:42] <dholbach> good morning
[06:43] <bkerensa> good morning kinda :)
[08:41] <nestobravo> Hello. My name is Ernesto and we will want (my school) to do a Ubuntu install party in Madrid. The answer is: Could be possible that the member of the community in Spain speak with our students about the ubuntu as operating system? Thank you
[09:18] <head_victim> nestobravo: I'd probably ask in #ubuntu-es to try and get a bigger group of people more local to your area
[09:29] <nestobravo> Thank you. I'll try in spanish ubuntu.
[09:46] <czajkowski> nestobravo: talk to dpm or ask in #ubuntu-es as head_victim suggested
[09:51] <dpm> hi nestobravo, try to talk to them too: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-es
[09:55] <AlanBell> nestobravo: also look at https://launchpad.net/guadalinexedu which is a customised Ubuntu for the spanish education system
[09:55] <AlanBell> andalusian specifically
[10:13] <nestobravo> Thank you for all
[10:15] <nestobravo> dpm: i'll try to talk them. Also i wrote in a forum in ubuntu-es
[10:17] <nestobravo> alanbell: thank you. I knew guadalinex but in Madrid the release is MAX but i don't want this. I prefer ubuntu releases Thank you
[10:33] <nestobravo> Bye. Thank you for information and advice. I just wrote to Ricardo Pérez and i'm waiting for your reply. Best regars. See you
[10:36] <AlanBell> nestobravo: not saying you have to use that release, but you might find someone good to talk to students by contacting them
[10:43] <nestobravo> alanbell: Sorry. my english is very bad and i don't understand correctly. Than you
[10:44] <AlanBell> nestobravo: I was suggesting you might find a good person to talk to your students about standard ubuntu if you contact the guadalinux project
[10:54] <nestobravo> alanbell: Ok. i'll try to talk with guadalinex project people. Thank you. See you
[10:59] <nestobravo> alanbell: i just wrote to guadalinex proyect. to see if I have luck. Thank you for all. Bye
[10:59] <AlanBell> bye
[12:48] <h00k> Our LoCo was just on Wisconsin Public Radio
[12:49] <mhall119> h00k: cool!
[12:49] <mhall119> h00k: will it be available online?
[12:51] <h00k> mhall119: It will
[12:52] <mhall119> h00k: cool, send the link around when it is
[12:52] <mhall119> I'd love to listen
[12:52] <h00k> It was an advocate talking about a presentation happening next Monday
[12:52] <h00k> It was just a short clip of Rick talking about Ubuntu
[12:56] <h00k> They spelled from an audio clip, so they got horrible spelling, which I corrected in an email to them (waiting for them to fix it)
[12:56] <paultag> congrats to ubuntu-au :)
[12:56] <h00k> http://www.wxpr.org/news/index.php?art=860
[12:57] <paultag> head_victim: prod :)
[12:57] <head_victim> paultag: cheers mate, just approving that email to the list
[12:57] <paultag> head_victim: ubuntu-au is invited to join locoteams-approved, welcome :)
[12:57] <paultag> head_victim: it seems only fitting I got to re-add the first team I had the displeasure of removing
[12:57] <paultag> head_victim: I'm super happy for you guys
[12:58] <head_victim> paultag: I'm ecstatic, a lot of people have been doing some awesome work
[12:58] <paultag> head_victim: +1 there
[12:58] <paultag> head_victim: be sure to pass on how exited everyone outside AU is to the team :)
[12:58] <paultag> head_victim: keep up the great work
[12:59] <czajkowski> head_victim: well done
[12:59] <paultag> h00k: that's awesome!!
[12:59] <paultag> h00k: be sure to blog it! (and the clip too!)
[12:59] <h00k> paultag: of course!
[13:00] <paultag> h00k: ^5, dude, well done!
[13:00] <h00k> I want them to fix the spelling, though, it's embarrasing :(
[13:00] <head_victim> czajkowski: thanks, it's been a good year for us, now to keep it going
[13:00] <paultag> h00k: hehehe, the small things :)
[13:00] <h00k> congrats, ubuntu-au
[13:00] <czajkowski> head_victim: indeed keep it up, we didnt like having to unapprove ye guys
[13:00] <paultag> +1
[13:00] <paultag> my first meeting, too
[13:00] <czajkowski> but I think it was needed to get you back to where you are now
[13:00] <czajkowski> on the yellow brick road :)
[13:01] <paultag> czajkowski: with all the opium?
[13:01] <h00k> we're going to be working on getting approved soon, as well.
[13:01] <paultag> czajkowski: no reason to promote that ;)
[13:02] <czajkowski> the wizard of OZ!
[13:02] <czajkowski> jesh
[13:03] <paultag> czajkowski: yeah!
[13:04] <czajkowski> OZ AU
[13:04] <paultag> czajkowski: what did you think the poppy fields were?
[13:06] <cprofitt> akgraner: you were in the Army?
[13:06] <head_victim> Thanks everyone, just dented/tweeted and sent a few emails, etc and on that note I'm off to bed.
[13:07] <cprofitt> night head_victim
[13:07] <paultag> head_victim: :D
[13:07] <paultag> head_victim: n8! congrats!
[13:07] <head_victim> Cheers all, night.
[17:14] <h00k> So, where would be an appropriate place to crosspost this radio link? Which mailing list would be best?
[17:14] <h00k> loco-contacts?
[17:22] <h00k> yeah, too late. posted.
[17:22] <h00k> yell later ;)
[17:28] <akgraner> cprofitt, yep sure was :-)
[17:28] <akgraner> got a bronze star for my work during the first gulf war too :-)
[17:29] <paultag> akgraner: were you discharged?
[17:29] <paultag> I can't remember if you told me, I'm guessing yet
[17:29] <paultag> yes *
[17:30] <mhall119> paultag: he's black-ops now, deep undercover following a group of socialist hackers
[17:30] <akgraner> paultag, yep ets's in 93 from active duty was released from reserve duty in 97
[17:30] <paultag> akgraner: what was your final rank?
[17:30] <paultag> mhall119: :)
[17:31] <cprofitt> akgraner: I just missed the first gulf war
[17:31] <cprofitt> was not trained on the version of the fist-v they needed
[17:31] <akgraner> E4 but I work in an E6 position...
[17:31] <paultag> akgraner: gotcha
[17:31] <cprofitt> I was an E5 in an E7 position
[17:31] <paultag> Cpl. Graner :)
[17:32] <paultag> if my ranks are right
[17:32] <akgraner> Was the Blackbook editor for the 18th Airborne Corps Command staff...:-) and got to do some really cool stuff
[17:32] <akgraner> Specialist
[17:32] <paultag> ah, gotcha
[17:32]  * mhall119 has Pasta Fagioli simmering away, very hungry
[17:32] <cprofitt> paultag: E4 can be specialist if not in charge of others or corporal if you are
[17:32] <paultag> mhall119: mmm, I love pasta e fagiola so much
[17:32] <paultag> cprofitt: gotcha
[17:32] <mhall119> paultag: trying a crock-pot version my wife found
[17:33] <cprofitt> 18th? Where are they out of?
[17:33] <paultag> erm, fagioli
[17:33] <mhall119> looks and smells good, but I gotta wait till dinner to have some :(
[17:33] <paultag> mhall119: yar :(
[17:38] <bkerensa> my friend had the best military job ever
[17:38] <bkerensa> :D
[17:39] <bkerensa> He was a Intelligence Specialist attached to the Defense Language Institute at the Presidio of Monterey which means when he was deployed he really didnt have much of a military chain of command
[17:39] <bkerensa> :D
[17:52] <akgraner> For anyone wanting to join in on the Ubuntu Leadership Team meeting it starts in about 8 minutes in -meeting...
[20:14] <Ronnie1> evening jono, any news on the foundation name issue?


[00:12] <grantbow> uninstalling all the packages is a temporary fix but I still want Sugar on 10.04 and to be able to help fix the conflicts.
[00:13] <grantbow> and I want to deploy it on the LTS to some students in San Francisco
[17:44] <grantbow> I am headed home now. Any estimate on when some packages might be ready to test with 10.04? Is it necessary to read up on http://www.debian.org/doc/ and help out somehow? It's been a long time since I was a DD but I might be able to help. I should reactivate my account anyway.
[17:50] <manusheel> grantbow: Yes.
[17:51] <manusheel> grantbow: The team will be working on it over the weekend. They should be able to complete it in the next 2 days.
[17:54] <manusheel> grantbow: Will you be available online today?
[18:31] <satellit_> manusheel: please keep me informed of your progress also....thanks


[17:38] <jono> hey folks
[17:38] <jono> I think it could be fun to have a Unity walkthough - anyone want to help with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnityFeatureWalkthrough ?


[06:37] <ubotu> raeez: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". To configure only the driver and resolution, type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh".
[06:37] <manchicken> Jucato: And I feel sorry for those people.
[06:38] <Jucato> manchicken: same way they probably feel sorry for you :)
[06:38] <DeadFishMan> Jucato: As long as I can watch a fullscreen DivX or DVD movie smoothly and without flickering, I am a happy camper... :)
[06:38] <Jucato> it's a multicolored world.. nothing is black and white :)
[06:38] <Legolas_Faol> and as php Editor? Kate?
[06:38] <raeez> DeadFishMan: same here
[06:38] <manchicken> raeez: Chances are you just need to remove the proprietary drivers and reconfigure X.
[06:38] <raeez> manchicken: so how do i uninstall?
[06:38] <Jucato> Legolas_Faol: Kate, Quanta (I think)
[06:38] <manchicken> Jucato: I disagree.
[06:38] <Jucato> raeez: did you install fglrx (or something)
[06:38] <manchicken> raeez: Look at ATI's site for that.
[06:39] <Gio`> Hello tout le monde :)
[06:39] <raeez> jucato: i installed fglrx from ATI's site
[06:39] <Jucato> manchicken: you can disagree all you want... it doesn't change my opinion :)
[06:39] <DeadFishMan> Legolas_Faol: Yes, Kate is fine. But you may want to take a look into Quanta.
[06:39] <Jucato> !fr | Gio`
[06:39] <ubotu> Gio`: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:39] <manchicken> Jucato: That's okay.  You can be wrong if you like ^_^
[06:39] <Gio`> oups !
[06:39] <Legolas_Faol> last but not least: best IRC client? (sorry but I'm a newbie)
[06:39] <Gio`> ^^
[06:39] <Jucato> manchicken: I can. you can also be wrong, for all we know. :P
[06:39] <DeadFishMan> Legolas_Faol: BitchX rules!!!!!!
[06:40] <raeez> its just an opinion
[06:40] <DeadFishMan> Legolas_Faol: But you may want to take a look into X-Chat and Konversation :)
[06:40] <Jucato> Legolas_Faol: "best" is very subjective and would get you very different answers :)
[06:40] <Legolas_Faol> jucato, of course
[06:40] <Jucato> Legolas_Faol: best way to find out is to try what works for you. Konversation is installed by default
[06:40] <manchicken> Jucato: I'd love ATI and nVidia if they'd give us the freedom to make the drivers work.  When the new nvidia free software drivers come out, I'll be all over that.
[06:40] <raeez> manchicken: do I HAVE to uninstall the ati driver?
[06:40] <manchicken> Legolas_Faol: konversation.
[06:40] <manchicken> raeez: It's your computer, your decision man.
[06:41] <Jucato> raeez: did you try the commands the bot gave?
[06:41] <Legolas_Faol> jucato, I've allready tried konv. and x-chat
[06:41] <manchicken> raeez: I ain't your daddy.
[06:41] <manchicken> raeez: But the ATI drivers will cause problems.
[06:41] <manchicken> I haven't met a single person yet who didn't have problems with ATI drives.
[06:41] <raeez> manchiken: lol i know, ur trying to help, but is there not a way to test the xorg drivers without having to uninstall? thats what im asking
[06:41] <manchicken> drivers*
[06:41] <soulrider> i guess im lucky to have an Nvidia card
[06:42] <Jucato> manchicken: I have nothing against that. I actually agree that wee need free drivers.. the problem is that most people need drivers that *really* work with what they have (3D accel) *now*, not in a year's time..
[06:42] <manchicken> You could rmmod flgrx or whatever they're called, and then update your x config.
[06:42] <raeez> jucato: i must have missed them... do you mean dpkg-reconfigure?
[06:42] <manchicken> soulrider: Nobody is lucky to be enslaved.
[06:42] <Jucato> raeez: yes
[06:42] <DeadFishMan> raeez: I do not know about ATIs hardware, but with nVidia, I just need to replace the nvidia driver with nv on xorg.conf
[06:42] <soulrider> manchicken: right....
[06:42] <DeadFishMan> raeez: No need to remove the proprietary drivers just for a test
[06:42] <raeez> ok, il try reconfiguring x then
[06:42] <manchicken> Jucato: If we can agree that proprietary drivers are WRONG, but that some people still need the functionality, I'm okay with that ^_^
[06:42] <Jucato> why did I let myself be dragged into this conversation :P
[06:42] <soulrider> lol Jucato
[06:43] <manchicken> Jucato: Because you--like me--have a big mouth ^_^
[06:43] <raeez> lol
[06:43] <Jucato> manchicken: I never said that proprietary drivers are right
[06:43] <manchicken> heh
[06:43] <manchicken> Jucato: Then we're in agreement.
[06:43] <soulrider> i really dont care if the drivers i use for my card are propietary, i still dont get the difference...
[06:43] <soulrider> why propietary is "bad"
[06:43] <manchicken> Jucato: I installed the nvidia drivers for my wife the other day.
[06:43] <DeadFishMan> raeez: But if the non-free driver has some sort of module loaded or hooks in to the kernel, then removing it temporarily may be needed
[06:43] <manchicken> soulrider: Because it restricts your freedom, and in many cases, invades your privacy.
[06:43] <Jucato> soulrider: because you give up your freedom
[06:43] <raeez> DeadFishMan: thanks, thats what i wanted to know
[06:43] <Jucato> soulrider: because they can control you
[06:43] <soulrider> how do i give up my freedom ?
[06:44] <Jucato> the freedom to use, study, modify, and distribute software
[06:44] <manchicken> soulrider: Because you can't share the proprietary software, study the software, distribute the software, or use the software in any way that the distributor doesn't like.
[06:44] <Jucato> the basic tennets of the Free Software Movement
[06:44] <soulrider> i understand
[06:44] <soulrider> well
[06:44] <soulrider> i there any 3d hardware
[06:45] <raeez> Oh is that why you are so chuffed
[06:45] <soulrider> that has GPL drivers ?
[06:45] <ConstyXIV> soulrider: no good ones
[06:45] <raeez> jucato: cant we write custom 'homebrewed' drivers
[06:45] <raeez> or is that illegal or something
[06:45] <Jucato> raeez: the nouveau project is doing just that
[06:45] <soulrider> thats the thing, i want my 3d accel...
[06:45] <mefisto_> thanks for everything guys
[06:45] <Jucato> reverse-engineering Nvidia drivers
[06:45] <mefisto_> I'm out for a while...
[06:45] <ConstyXIV> raeez: the issue is skill, not legality
[06:45] <soulrider> bye mefisto_
[06:45] <Jucato> soulrider: and that's the problem really
[06:45] <DeadFishMan> soulrider: Old nVidia and ATI cards have 3D OSS drivers, but they are not up to the snuff these days
[06:45] <mefisto_> thanks manchicken, Ryan and all the guys who helped me T_T
[06:45] <ConstyXIV> we don't really know how they work
[06:46] <raeez> jucato: cool, thats awesome... but what about ATI :(
[06:46] <mefisto_> bye
[06:46] <DeadFishMan> Actually, only ATI up to R300, iirc
[06:46] <Jucato> raeez: dunno... :P
[06:46] <lkm`> hi, all. I have some problem with X fonts.  After i do apt-get install --reinstall xbase-fonts all kde fonts became squares
[06:46] <Jucato> fwiw, Intel has open sourced their drivers... but their video cards are all IGP...
[06:46] <raeez> maybe i should just invest in an nvidia just for kubuntu
[06:46] <manchicken> raeez: It is illegal in many countries to write your own ATI drivers or DVD players.
[06:46] <raeez> i do have a free pci express slot :)
[06:46] <Jucato> raeez: not really... you can stick with what you have if you get it to work
[06:46] <Jucato> nouveau in nowhere near ready at all
[06:47] <ConstyXIV> manchicken: where in the nine hells did you get that idea?
[06:47] <raeez> Id love to get it to work, but ive been experimenting for a while now
[06:47] <manchicken> ConstyXIV: Any country that recognizes software patents has that problem.
[06:47] <manchicken> ConstyXIV: Including the US, UK, Canada, Mexico, and several others.
[06:47] <ConstyXIV> i don't think there's any issue rev-enging video cards
[06:48] <manchicken> (I believe most of Western Europe is on that list)
[06:48] <ConstyXIV> and CSS is what gets in the way of DVDs (dmca)
[06:48] <Jucato> let's just hope that nouveau doesn't experience what reactosdid...
[06:48] <DeadFishMan> ConstyXIV: Only clean room reverse engineering is considered legal, and even that is debatable in those countries
[06:48] <ConstyXIV> as long as they do clean-room rev-enging...
[06:48] <manchicken> ConstyXIV: If interfacing with that device is included in the patent, then any piece of software that would give you full functionality on the device would be in violation of the patent.
[06:48] <raeez> Why will ati not invest more interest in linux, do they have a reason?
[06:49] <ConstyXIV> raeez: they dont care
[06:49] <raeez> ok thats just plain terrible
[06:49] <ConstyXIV> the amd buyout MAY, MAY change things
[06:49] <raeez> I hope so
[06:49] <raeez> What stand does amd take on free software?
[06:49] <ConstyXIV> and they themselves have patent issues
[06:49] <manchicken> ConstyXIV: In the US, EU (with some exceptions), CA, and MX, even clean-room rev-eng is illegal.
[06:49] <Jucato> so far it hasn't...
[06:49] <ConstyXIV> i dunno
[06:49] <soulrider> if nvidia open sourced their drivers theyd probably get a lot more customers
[06:49] <ConstyXIV> manchicken: then how did compaq do it?
[06:49] <manchicken> soulrider: I agree.
[06:49] <soulrider> whast clean-room ?
[06:50] <manchicken> ConstyXIV: How did compaq do what?
[06:50] <raeez> but i thought nvidia were trying to write proper linux drivers, at least better than ati
[06:50] <Dr_willis> nvidia and ati both have been the 'big dogs' for too long. :)
[06:50] <Jucato> except that both NVIDIA and ATI might have stolen some things... which makes it almost impossible for them to open source...
[06:50] <raeez> true
[06:50] <ConstyXIV> rev-eng the bios (either them or phoenix)
[06:50] <waylandbill> they don't have upstream licensing to open source the drivers though
[06:50] <DeadFishMan> manchicken: I am not american but I never heard that statement before. Are you sure that legitimate cases of clean room reverse engineering are considered illegal in the US?
[06:50] <manchicken> raeez: Better tech is not always more free.
[06:50] <manchicken> ConstyXIV: I don't believe they did.
[06:51] <Grumpf> i just installed kubuntu edgy eft, but can't connect to my router, neither wired or wireless.
[06:51] <manchicken> DeadFishMan: There was a guy in California who got sued out of existence for making a breakthrough in ATI 3D drivers.
[06:51] <raeez> im going to restart my x server, brb
[06:51] <Jucato> but free is also not always better
[06:51] <manchicken> DeadFishMan: He made the mistake of posting his findings.
[06:51] <ConstyXIV> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Technologies
[06:51] <raeez> manchiken: thats not good
[06:51] <manchicken> No, it's not.
[06:51] <Grumpf> what can i do?
[06:52] <Jucato> ok guys, let's get back to business, shall we? :)
[06:52] <ConstyXIV> ibm even sued over that, and lost
[06:52] <DeadFishMan> Grumpf: do you have an eth0 when you run ifconfig on the console?
[06:52] <manchicken> ConstyXIV: Just because Compaq (HP) had a better case in court doesn't mean it wasn't illegal.
[06:53] <Grumpf> deadfishman: yes, it has detected something there
[06:53] <manchicken> ConstyXIV: There could have been some technical thing they were doing differently that wasn't covered under the patent.
[06:53] <Grumpf> protocol: ethernet, hardware adresse ....
[06:55] <manchicken> split?
[06:58] <josh_> does anybody know anything about symbian OS
[06:58] <Grumpf> so, what can i check next ?
[06:59] <soulrider> josh_: isnt that for cell phones ?
[06:59] <josh_> yah
[06:59] <josh_> #symbian
[07:00] <DeadFishMan> Grumpf: Do you have an entry called eth0 over there?
[07:00] <Grumpf> yes, i have
[07:00] <josh_> does anybody know anything about symbian
[07:00] <DeadFishMan> Please post the line here...
[07:01] <Dr_willis> josh_,  what sort of answer are you really expecting?
[07:01] <Grumpf> eth0 Protocol: Ethernet Hardware Adresse 00:18:F3:9F:C1:BE
[07:01] <Dr_willis> josh_,  'its used by cell phones'  - happy?
[07:01] <DeadFishMan> What about the one that says "inet addr"?
[07:02] <Grumpf> UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
[07:02] <Grumpf> there is no line with inet addr
[07:02] <frojnd>  how can Ichange the default gtk font and size
[07:02] <josh_> but can it only come pre-loaded?
[07:02] <josh_> or can you install it yourself
[07:02] <Dr_willis> install it where? to your phone?
[07:02] <Grumpf> wait a sec, brb. need to check something
[07:06] <Schuenemann> !rpm
[07:06] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[07:06] <Schuenemann> !apt
[07:06] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:07] <Schuenemann> what does this bot mean with "quite dangerours" ?
[07:07] <Schuenemann> dangerous
[07:07] <Schuenemann> I have to install an rpm
[07:08] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: That means, you might get fine packages or something that might destroy your system. ;)
[07:08] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: It's warning, but you still can try.
[07:08] <Schuenemann> destroy? you're joking right?
[07:08] <Tm_T> Well, with skill you can fix almost anything.
[07:08] <wilman> my ubuntu is becomming unstable
[07:08] <waylandbill> Schuenemann: of course it could. configurations, file locations and more could be and probably are radically different
[07:09] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: But installing package... you give it right to do pretty much anything.
[07:09] <Schuenemann> damn...
[07:09] <waylandbill> why not get a source package?
[07:09] <Schuenemann> not available
[07:09] <wilman> it takes long before something gets opened, sometimes verry long
[07:09] <DeadFishMan> waylandbill: I used alien several times to install rpm packages on my system without problems at all.
[07:09] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: Well, try, should work anyway.
[07:09] <Schuenemann> waylandbill: but you're talking about a file with bad intentions, right?
[07:09] <DeadFishMan> waylandbill: You just need to be careful about the packages that you will try to install.
[07:09] <waylandbill> DeadFishMan: that doesn't mean it couldn't.
[07:10] <waylandbill> Schuenemann: no. not malicious. not intended for the distribution.
[07:10] <Schuenemann> hmmm
[07:10] <DeadFishMan> waylandbill: Often, commercial packages are statically linked and do not have too much external dependencies, when they have it at all and are only available to RH and RH-like distros
[07:11] <Schuenemann> I had a distro that didn't support RPM, but it could be converted to .deb as I remember
[07:11] <waylandbill> you may find that it works just fine, but that doesn't mean you should trust it as 100% reliably installable.
[07:11] <DeadFishMan> waylandbill: I believe that AVG for Linux was one of those cases
[07:11] <DeadFishMan> waylandbill: True.
[07:11] <soulrider> im tryiung to help my friend install kubuntu. He created an invitation for desktop sharing, but i cant seem to be able to connect through krdc
[07:12] <DeadFishMan> soulrider: Those desktop sharing invitations uses simple VNC if I am not mistaken. Try to connect using vncviewer and your friends IP address.
[07:13] <Schuenemann> yes, it's VNC
[07:13] <Schuenemann> it uses a random password
[07:14] <stamen> hi
[07:14] <stamen> what can I use to play 3gp files with audio
[07:14] <stamen> is there somthing like quick time for linux
[07:14] <DeadFishMan> stamen: Have you tried MPlayer, Xine and/or VLC?
[07:15] <stamen> yes
[07:15] <stamen> but the file is without audio
[07:15] <stamen> what to do to play them with audio
[07:15] <soulrider> i cant connect, it just stays in establishing connections
[07:15] <DeadFishMan> stamen: As long as you have the proper binary codecs installed, they should work
[07:15] <stamen> which binary codecs I have to install
[07:15] <stamen> plase tell if u know
[07:16] <stamen> I have gstreamer and w32codec
[07:16] <DeadFishMan> stamen: I heard about an app called Lin3GP sometime ago, which is supposed to encode such videos so it probably add a new codec to the syste,?
[07:16] <DeadFishMan> stamen: I do not know as I rarely use such formats...
[07:17] <stamen> my phone uses them
[07:17] <stamen> :(
[07:18] <DeadFishMan> stamen: But when those video players can only show the video but not audio or the other way around, then it means that its codecs do not support the format entirely and have to be updated (when such update is available, of course)
[07:18] <stamen> I agree with u, but how to update the w32codec
[07:18] <stamen> my system is up to date
[07:19] <stamen> and the problem is the same with 3gp
[07:20] <DeadFishMan> stamen: My MP3 Player uses a Chinese(?) proprietary format to encode video files whose container have the extension AMV. Apparently, they hacked some OSS codec, made a few modifications and now the end result seems like RIFF data to Linux
[07:20] <DeadFishMan> stamen: I gave up trying to make Linux to encode/decode those files.
[07:20] <stamen> DeadFishMan:  ok
[07:21] <stamen> DeadFishMan:  :)
[07:21] <DeadFishMan> stamen: I believe that the MPlayer/Mencoder developers are working on OSS implementation for those formats as we speak, so they should show up on either project or on FFMPEG pretty soon
[07:21] <stamen> DeadFishMan:  do u upload your images from phone to pc
[07:21] <stamen> DeadFishMan:  ok, I will wait them
[07:22] <DeadFishMan> stamen: No. My phone is so old that it does not even have a camera :)
[07:22] <stamen> DeadFishMan:  aa, ok
[07:22] <Dr_willis> My phone is so cheap - it dosent have a camera
[07:22] <DeadFishMan> stamen: But I tried using my sister s once and it was not pretty.
[07:22] <stamen> DeadFishMan: but I will ask u, maybe u know somthing
[07:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:23] <DeadFishMan> stamen: These devices do not use standard protocols, like USB Mass Storage, so the chance of having them working without the manufacturer support is close to none currently.
[07:23] <stamen> DeadFishMan: the problem is, that last 2 months I upload my pictures without problem true USB cable
[07:23] <DeadFishMan> stamen: It was the same thing with digital camera that used the PTP protocol a few years ago.
[07:24] <stamen> DeadFishMan: no, it worked perfectrly, but now when I connect the cable and after 3 sec the mouse and keyboard are blocked
[07:24] <stamen> DeadFishMan: and I have to reset the PC :(
[07:24] <stamen> DeadFishMan: do you have an idea how to fix this ?
[07:24] <DeadFishMan> stamen: Did you upgraded major parts of your system (kernel, udev, sysfs, etc?)?
[07:24] <stamen> yes
[07:24] <stamen> I am using edgy
[07:24] <DeadFishMan> stamen: sounds like a huge bug to me...
[07:25] <stamen> DeadFishMan: me too
[07:25] <stamen> DeadFishMan: as I write, all was working perfectrly
[07:25] <stamen> DeadFishMan: now the system blocks
[07:25] <DeadFishMan> stamen: If it worked previously, try to see if the system at least see you plugging the device: lsusb
[07:26] <ostepop> Why do I get an error saying "RTNETLINK answers: File exists" when I have multiple interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces and I try to activate them with "/etc/init.d/network start"?
[07:26] <DeadFishMan> lsusb: will list the devices plugged on USB ports
[07:26] <stamen> yes, it see the phone memorry card
[07:26] <stamen> and offers to open it
[07:26] <stamen> I open the card, and when I start copying the files, keybord, and the mouse are gone
[07:26] <DeadFishMan> and (as root) tail -f /var/log/messages should tell you if the kernel indeed sees when you plug the phone and what happens afterwards
[07:27] <DeadFishMan> stamen: Well... then I have no idea of what it could be.
[07:27] <stamen> DeadFishMan: ok
[07:27] <stamen> DeadFishMan: 10x for the spended time
[07:27] <stamen> :)
[07:27] <DeadFishMan> stamen: Sorry! :/
[07:30] <mortici> how do i make patches?
[07:32] <Xera|> are there any things like napster/itunes where i can buy music for linux?
[07:32] <josh_> lol buying music
[07:33] <Theory> depends on what type of music you are looking for
[07:33] <Theory> e.g. amarok will let you buy music from magnatune.com
[07:33] <Theory> but you won't find big name artists there
[07:33] <josh_> buy music?
[07:33] <josh_> why dont you just get free music
[07:33] <hatta> emusic
[07:34] <hatta> http://www.kallisti.net.nz/EMusicJ/HomePage
[07:34] <codyt> free ogg?
[07:34] <hatta> they have an awesome collection of jazz and world music
[07:34] <Xera|> he's talking about limewire/emule etc probably
[07:34] <Xera|> lol hatta
[07:34] <josh_> yeah
[07:34] <Xera|> not what i'm looking for
[07:34] <Xera|> ;P
[07:34] <hatta> why not?
[07:35] <Xera|> because dance owns them all
[07:35] <Xera|> :D
[07:35] <josh_> yeah realy
[07:35] <Dr_willis> !frostwire
[07:35] <josh_> why dont you just get free music
[07:35] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[07:35] <codyt> i'd like free music, as long as it ogg instead of mp3
[07:35] <Xera|> won't lemme connect
[07:35] <Dr_willis> I want free Kenny G. !
[07:35] <Xera|> ;/
[07:35] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:35] <josh_> amule
[07:35] <Xera|> josh_: no ty
[07:35] <Xera|> xD
[07:35] <Xera|> rubbish :O
[07:35] <josh_> bittorrent
[07:35] <codyt> Limewire and Frostwire both fail on my computer.
[07:35] <Xera|> nearly as bad as limewire
[07:35] <codyt> Says the themes.jar is wrong, with both of them.
[07:36] <Xera|> my net is being a bitch, can't connect to ottd multiplayer, or limewire
[07:36] <Xera|> >:
[07:36] <codyt> only one I've manged to get to work is phex.
[07:37] <Xera|> well there's one song i'm looking for, AM180 - Grandaddy
[07:37] <Xera|> *cough*anyone?*cough*
[07:37] <Xera|> :P
[07:37] <codyt> I'm looking for lots of songs.
[07:38] <codyt> Tool, Megadeth..
[07:39] <Dr_willis> Kenny G. . Polka Classics,
[07:39] <Dr_willis> Menudo, Milli Vanilli
[07:39] <codyt> Hendrix.
[07:40] <codyt> I wanna replace my voodoo chile mp3, it sounds poor.
[07:40] <Xera|> "rogue traders" ?
[07:45] <velle> when using "ls -l" in a folder like "/dev", I get a column of numbers for every device node, that are not there for files or directories. The column is after group and before size. E.g.: "crw------- 1 root root      4,   1 2007-01-18 10:35 tty1", in this case 4. What does that number mean?
[07:45] <galathalion> kiss
[07:45] <galathalion> oops.
[07:47] <Dr_willis> major/minor node #'s
[07:47] <Dr_willis> are what those are velle
[07:47] <Dr_willis> tty1 = 4,1
[07:47] <Dr_willis> byeeee
[07:48] <schlonzo> hai!
[07:48] <schlonzo> isses normal in kubuntu das ich auf mein dateisystem nich zugreifen kann?
[07:49] <CorPLiNuX> i need help installing something
[07:49] <HymnToLife> !de | schlonzo
[07:49] <ubotu> schlonzo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:49] <Lynoure> CorPLiNuX: Please tell more.
[07:49] <CorPLiNuX> trying to load enemy territory, but i get this
[07:49] <CorPLiNuX> ./setup.sh: 278: /root/.setup11823: not found
[07:49] <CorPLiNuX> ./setup.sh: 289: /root/.setup11823: not found
[07:49] <CorPLiNuX> and then it closes the setup
[07:49] <Xera|> lol
[07:49] <schlonzo> okey... is it normaly in kubuntu that i can't see my filesystem?
[07:50] <Xera|> CorPLiNuX: you're running it as root?
[07:50] <CorPLiNuX> yes
[07:50] <Xera|> run it as a normal user
[07:50] <HymnToLife> schlonzo, seems to be a well known bug, you should be able to find about it in google
[07:50] <Xera|> it's looking in the home folder for the files
[07:50] <CorPLiNuX> tried
[07:50] <Xera|> hmm
[07:50] <HymnToLife> you're not the first one asking zbout it
[07:50] <Xera|> O-o
[07:50] <CorPLiNuX> I get a 3rd file on the list as a normal user
[07:51] <abattoir> !hidden | schlonzo
[07:51] <ubotu> schlonzo: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[07:51] <CorPLiNuX> ./setup.sh: 273: /home/monster/.setup11922: not found
[07:51] <CorPLiNuX> ./setup.sh: 278: /home/monster/.setup11922: not found
[07:51] <CorPLiNuX> ./setup.sh: 289: /home/monster/.setup11922: not found
[07:51] <CorPLiNuX> as a normal user
[07:52] <Xera|> weird
[07:52] <CorPLiNuX> w0rd
[07:52] <Lynoure> What is tries to do is probably readable from the script
[07:53] <Lynoure> Specifically on lines 273, 278 and 289
[07:53] <CorPLiNuX> so how do I fix that?
[07:54] <Lynoure> I do not use ET, but if you pastebin the setup.sh I can take a look at what it does
[07:54] <Lynoure> ET prolly has it's own support.
[07:56] <jamrs> when using SSH... i want to forward a port... lets say i have servera.com and on the internal network of servera.com i have a computer with the IP <IP_ADDRESS>.. i want to SSH servera from here and tunnel into a specific port on the network computer
[07:57] <jamrs> lets say port 3555 or something
[07:57] <xera> afk, dinner
[07:57] <Tonren> What's the name of the dropdown terminal for KDE?  It's "Tilda" in Gnome.  It's a terminal that acts like FPS terminals, that dropdown from the top of thes creen when you hit ~.
[07:57] <jamrs> i know about -D portnumber, but this program i am running does not allow proxying
[07:57] <CorPLiNuX> there is no setup.sh there
[07:58] <CorPLiNuX> none of the files it says are
[07:58] <kkosmo> hi somone can help me how i can change only the konsole language to en not all the system only konsole ?
[07:59] <michaelpo> hello... how do i view vcd? i can view dvd...
[07:59] <michaelpo> hello... how do i view vcd? i can view dvd...
[07:59] <CorPLiNuX> maybe i need to run it from a different directory?
[07:59] <CorPLiNuX> nope
[08:00] <Tonren> Anyone?  Dropdown terminal?
[08:03] <Lynoure> CorPLiNuX: no setup.sh?  How are you running the installation?
[08:04] <Lynoure> Tonren: and you mean actual terminal and not katapult?
[08:04] <Tonren> Lynoure: Right
[08:05] <Lynoure> Tonren: yakuake perhaps
[08:05] <CorPLiNuX> lyn it isnt, that's the problem
[08:05] <Lynoure> CorPLiNuX: How are you running the installation?
[08:05] <Tonren> Lynoure: Thanks
[08:05] <Lynoure> CorPLiNuX: What command?
[08:05] <CorPLiNuX> clicking on it and or sh filename.run
[08:06] <CorPLiNuX> it starts to load
[08:06] <CorPLiNuX> then gives me that error
[08:06] <Lynoure> filename.run is the name of the file you click on?
[08:06] <CorPLiNuX> not exactly
[08:06] <CorPLiNuX> sh '/home/monster/et-linux-2.60.x86.run'
[08:06] <DeadFishMan> Tonren: Yakuake
[08:07] <Tonren> DeadFishMan: How do I change Yakuake's options?  I want Alt + ` to be my hotkey.
[08:07] <Lynoure> CorPLiNuX: My, that answer took a lot of pulling...
[08:07] <CorPLiNuX> lol
[08:07] <CorPLiNuX> =\ sorry
[08:07] <michaelpo> hello... i just installed ubuntu6.06...  how do i view vcd? i can view dvd...
[08:07] <DeadFishMan> Tonren: Dunno. Never used it. :)
[08:07] <Lynoure> CorPLiNuX: try cd to /home/monster first
[08:08] <Lynoure> CorPLiNuX: and running it as sh et-linux-2.60.x86.run   if you have not already
[08:08] <mace___> someone in here using vaiostat-source ?
[08:08] <CorPLiNuX> same thing
[08:08] <DeadFishMan> michaelpo: If you can watch DVDs, then theoretically you should be able to use the same app to watch VCDs.
[08:08] <Lynoure> CorPLiNuX: that et-linux-2.60.x86.run is shell script, pastebinning it might help
[08:09] <DeadFishMan> michaelpo: I use Xine and VLC
[08:09] <michaelpo> im using totem
[08:09] <Lynoure> Or might be, I'm getting way sleepy :)
[08:09] <karmikaze> anyone else having bad luck with yakuake
[08:10] <DeadFishMan> michaelpo: I do not use Totem very often as it is too dumbed down for my taste. Try to apt-get xine-ui and VLC that are more featured
[08:10] <karmikaze> this is the second time today its gone crazy and crashed x
[08:10] <karmikaze> i think it might be to do with beryl as well
[08:10] <michaelpo> totem could not play 'vcd:///media/cdrom0'. no URI handler implemented for "vcd".
[08:11] <michaelpo> is mplayer any good?
[08:11] <karmikaze> mplayer is awesome
[08:11] <pj> Hi, I have installed Kubuntu a few weeks ago. I still have one last Hardware config. problem to solve, which I can't really get hold of.
[08:11] <karmikaze> for dvds though i find xine the best
[08:11] <DeadFishMan> michaelpo: Also, VLC has a wxGTK interface, so it looks exactly like a GNOME app (if that is what floats your boat)
[08:11] <CorPLiNuX> sorry, im still hella new to using all this
[08:11] <manchicken> Once you get the codecs installed, kaffeine is quite a good media player.
[08:11] <CorPLiNuX> how do I paste the binning
[08:11] <CorPLiNuX> ?
[08:11] <karmikaze> what hardware pj
[08:12] <DeadFishMan> !pastebin
[08:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:12] <michaelpo> ok... i'm new to linux/ubuntu/gnu.. dont know what is wxgtk or gtk
[08:12] <pj> intelp pentium 4, 2.4 gighz
[08:12] <pj> I cant configure my Audio
[08:12] <DeadFishMan> michaelpo: Oh, sorry about that.
[08:12] <manchicken> michaelpo: They're just different GUI libraries.
[08:12] <michaelpo> i will install vlc then....
[08:12] <DeadFishMan> michaelpo: In this case, please try VLC.
[08:12] <CorPLiNuX> ahh
[08:13] <pj> I can play mp3 with amaro, but I dont have any system sound
[08:13] <manchicken> wxgtk, IIRC, is just GTK with a wxwidgets interface.
[08:13] <michaelpo> i use the add/remove program?
[08:13] <pj> the same when I  plaz videos : no sound
[08:13] <DeadFishMan> michaelpo: Yes
[08:14] <DeadFishMan> michaelpo: sudo apt-get install vlc
[08:14] <DeadFishMan> michaelpo: Even faster. :)
[08:14] <michaelpo> 5min... anticipating...
[08:14] <trappist> ok I said 'sudo aptitude hold mrxvt' but now apt-get upgrade still wants to upgrade mrxvt.  any ideas why?
[08:15] <CorPLiNuX> now you need me to paste the whole file in ther>?
[08:17] <Lynoure> CorPLiNuX: No, I do not need anything, but might be able to help if you did that.
[08:18] <Lynoure> CorPLiNuX: You might be able to help yourself by looking into that file, too, who knows :)
[08:18] <crusty> hy! my kubuntu 6.10 do start without administrative privileges.....sometyng happen......any help?
[08:19] <Lynoure> crusty: you mean it starts just fine but you do not have full permission for everything? Or something else?
[08:20] <Lynoure> !sudo | crusty
[08:20] <ubotu> crusty: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:20] <crusty> yes! exactlly
[08:20] <Lynoure> crusty: That link should explain things to you :)
[08:20] <DeadFishMan> crusty: Ideally, you should start without administrative priviledges, but Ubuntu does not make that easy for you :)
[08:21] <crusty> ok! thanks.........it was fine before! but someting went wrong yerterday and now is like this...many thanks Lynuire
[08:21] <DeadFishMan> crusty: Make sure that your user account is on the adm and admin groups. That should fix some of your problems, if not all of them
[08:23] <Pekke_> what can i do to make my cd/dvd-rom to work in this laptop w/ kubuntu. i put music cd in, but it does not do anything, and i can't play the music from ther
[08:24] <pj> I have a similar problem with my sound caru. The programm starts the CD by it plays no sound ..
[08:24] <CorPLiNuX> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2076/
[08:25] <CorPLiNuX> that is a chunk of it Lynoure
[08:25] <crusty> how to make sure that my account is on adm and admin....sorry but im kinde of new on kubuntu
[08:25] <raf> hello, I want to mount an Ubuntu box folder in a Kubuntu box folder, I'm trying to do this manually: sudo mount //<IP_ADDRESS>/proyectos /home/raf/proyectos  -o username=raf,password=mipass; but it throws this error: "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock" what can I do?
[08:26] <Lynoure> crusty: Can you use sudo? If you can, it is.
[08:26] <Lynoure> crusty: but you can also do  less /etc/group   to see what groups you are in
[08:26] <mace___> what programm could i use to manage/bookmark my ftp servers?
[08:27] <crusty> i normally use sudo on konsole.......but iv not done recentlly! will it bee enought if i restart the pc with sudo reboot?
[08:28] <DeadFishMan> crusty: On the system settings menu, look for KUser, then enter you credentials when asked and edit your user profile to include both groups. It is pretty straighforward once you get there.
[08:28] <crusty> ok ill try that! thanks
[08:29] <DeadFishMan> mace___: gFTP
[08:30] <crusty> ok i'm there i do appear ain user and groops
[08:31] <crusty> as user and groups....sorry
[08:32] <DeadFishMan> raf: I do not know but it looks like you are trying to use Samba between those 2 Linux boxes. You missed the paramenter to specify the filesystem:  -t smbfs
[08:32] <CorPLiNuX> i notice in the first couple lines it says stuff for setup.sh
[08:32] <mace___> DeadFishMan: ah nice, thank you
[08:32] <ThE_LiNuX_UsEr> it.sport.calcio -->shit usenet group
[08:32] <CorPLiNuX> there a way I can just5 download these files and put them there? lol
[08:33] <raf> DeadFishMan: I'm going to try that. ok, Is there another way to communicate 2 linux boxes other that samba?
[08:33] <DeadFishMan> raf: And if you are planning to mount remote folders like that, make sure that the Samba daemon is running on both machines
[08:33] <DeadFishMan> raf: Yes. NFS.
[08:34] <raf> DeadFishMan: How can I mount network folder with NFS?
[08:34] <DeadFishMan> raf: Samba is a Unix implementation of the CIFS protocol used on Windows networks and it is menat to make Windows and *NIX machines to co-exist on the same network.
[08:35] <raf> DeadFishMan: oh, I didn't know that
[08:35] <DeadFishMan> raf: You might want to look up for some info on the net as NFS can be a rather lenghty subject. :)
[08:35] <gan|y|med> hi
[08:35] <raf> DeadFishMan: Yes, I'll make a research about NFS
[08:35] <gan|y|med> i've got problems with knetworkmanager
[08:36] <CorPLiNuX> Lynoure: this one is a bit better, maybe what you where looking for. im still new at this. =\ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2077/
[08:36] <CorPLiNuX> or if anyone could help
[08:36] <CorPLiNuX> that would be awesome
[08:38] <gan|y|med> knetworkmanager seems to work as i can connect to a completely unsecured network.
[08:39] <gan|y|med> however, everytime i try to connect to a mac address filtered one, it cannot get past the "configure device" stage
[08:39] <gan|y|med> and when i try to enter the essid manually again it ends up crashing
[08:39] <gan|y|med> any help would be much appreciated
[08:40] <michaelpo> vlc works... thanks....
[08:40] <raf> I have another problem... I have installed Beryl + XGL in kubuntu, everything works very fine but the Alt-Gr key doesn't work anymore, so  if I want to write an AT i can't beacuse I need Alt-Gr+2 to write down an AT, what can I do?
[08:40] <DeadFishMan> michaelpo: I am glad to hear that :)
[08:40] <Admiral_Chicago> help install a wireless driver. I don't knows what this command means
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> make -c /path/to/source/ SUBDIRS=$PWD modules
[08:41] <raf> Even if I goes back to KWin, Alt-Gr doesn't work :(
[08:41] <gan|y|med> just in case
[08:41] <michaelpo> DeadFishMan: how do i make ubuntu default to vlc instead of totem?
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> do i just say make and the PWD will create a new file in thi directory i'm in
[08:41] <gan|y|med> knetworkmanager seems to work as i can connect to a completely unsecured network. however, everytime i try to connect to a mac address filtered one, it cannot get past the "configure device" stage.  and when i try to enter the essid manually again it ends up crashing
[08:41] <DeadFishMan> raf: I do not use Beryl but I heard that once you replace KDEs window manager - Kwin - with it, certain keystrokes are not respected anymore. Perhaps that could be the reason...
[08:42] <Admiral_Chicago> where path to source is the path to the source directory for the target kernel
[08:42] <DeadFishMan> michaelpo: Sorry, pal. I dunno. I do not use Ubuntu nor GNOME that much. Gnome Volume Manager would be my first guess.
[08:43] <lenscape> how do I install the python source files using apt-get or synaptic?
[08:43] <michaelpo> ok thanks...
[08:43] <raf> DeadFishMan: Oh oh, that's not good :'(
[08:44] <raf> DeadFishMan: thank you very much
[08:44] <DeadFishMan> raf: You are welcome, mate.
[08:44] <apokryphos> ubotu: source | lenscape
[08:44] <ubotu> lenscape: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[08:45] <lenscape> apokryphos: ah! Thanks
[08:45] <apokryphos> indeed :)
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[08:45] <Lynoure> CorPLiNuX: According to this there ought to be setup.sh around somewhere, as this would nag at you differently if there were not, and the error you get is from the setup.sh
[08:46] <CorPLiNuX> i cant find it if it's there
[08:46] <CorPLiNuX> and all my files are showin
[08:47] <joel_> hi
[08:47] <n0ne> heyal
[08:48] <n0ne> Can anyone help me  with this -> i think i have some problem with kde, because i have Russian and English languages in panel, but by shift+alt they don't changing, and no binds are working :(
[08:48] <Lynoure> CorPLiNuX: do    find /home setup.sh
[08:49] <Lynoure> ooops
[08:49] <CorPLiNuX> ??
[08:49] <Lynoure> CorPLiNuX: oops, find /home -name setup.sh
[08:50] <pj> My soundcard seems not be configuerd properly by default (kubuntu). I can play (and hear!) mp3 with amarok, but no other sounds (*.wav, Movies, CD) any idea where I can get some Help / information on this specific probelm ?
[08:51] <n0ne> Can anyone help me  with this -> i think i have some problem with kde, because i have Russian and English languages in panel, but by shift+alt they don't change, and no binds are working :(
[08:51] <CorPLiNuX> Lynoure: nothing
[08:51] <CorPLiNuX> came up with no results
[08:51] <gan|y|med> any idea why knetworkmanager keeps crashing?
[08:51] <DeadFishMan> pj: See which engine Amarok is using on the backend. If it is using ALSA and KDE applications are trying to use aRTS, then you found your problem.
[08:51] <soulrider> gan|y|med: it works well for me
[08:52] <gan|y|med> ok, again
[08:52] <gan|y|med> knetworkmanager seems to work as i can connect to a completely unsecured network. however, everytime i try to connect to a mac address filtered one, it cannot get past the "configure device" stage.  and when i try to enter the essid manually again it ends up crashing
[08:52] <apokryphos> gan|y|med: start it from the command line and you tell us
[08:52] <gan|y|med> that might interrup this connection
[08:52] <DeadFishMan> pj: aRTS is a pig but I have seen some KDE applications that try to start it even if you explicitly tell them to not use it.
[08:53] <DeadFishMan> pj: (Juk comes to mind...)
[08:53] <raf> If anyone has the Alt-Gr issue in Beryl, Here is the solution -> http://forum.beryl-project.org/viewtopic.php?t=1366
[08:53] <DeadFishMan> raf: Hey, man! Good that you found it! :)
[08:54] <raf> DeadFishMan: One more time google is my friend :D
[08:54] <Lynoure> CorPLiNuX: I guess I'll leave this to you and ET forums. Good luck!
[08:54] <CorPLiNuX> lol
[08:54] <CorPLiNuX> sorry =(
[08:54] <DeadFishMan> raf: Google is everyone s friend! :P
[08:54] <n0ne> Can anyone help me  with this -> i think i have some problem with kde, because i have Russian and English languages in panel, but by shift+alt they don't change, and no binds are working :(
[08:56] <pj> thanks, I try to find out waht amarok and kde are usind on the back end ...
[08:57] <n0ne> Can anyone help me  with this -> i think i have some problem with kde, because i have Russian and English languages in panel, but by shift+alt they don't change, and no binds are working :(
[08:58] <cyprene> I had that same issue.  Did you set your language control panel to include russian?
[08:58] <DeadFishMan> pj: Just to clarify, aRTS is what KDE calls Sound System. You can enable or disable it from the Control Panel. Try to change it state and then play again whatever was failing to play previously.
[08:58] <morenin> em... espaol?
[08:59] <pj> in System settings sounds setting says: Advanced linux sound Architecture
[08:59] <apokryphos> ubotu: spanish
[08:59] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:59] <n0ne> yep
[08:59] <morenin> gracias
[08:59] <gan|y|med> knetworkmanager crashed when i tried to enter the essid manually
 yup, i can change language by clicking flag
[08:59] <gan|y|med> i lost the connection...
 but shift+alt isn't work
[08:59] <n0ne> ing* ()
[09:00] <DeadFishMan> pj: For non-KDE applications such as XMMS and Beep Media Player, you will need to set them up so that they use the aRTS backend.
[09:00] <cyprene> OK, hmm...
[09:00] <cyprene> Is it shift alt or shift+space?
[09:00] <kkosmo> somone how i can change the language of the konsole only the language on konsole not all system only kosnsole
[09:00] <kkosmo> ?
  nop...
  any ideas?
[09:03] <cyprene> Try setting your default language to russian
[09:03] <n0ne> ok one moment
[09:03] <pj> I am for ex. using xine. I unchecked Enable sound system, but still no sound..
[09:04] <tarden_> ''
[09:04] <tarden_>
[09:04] <pj> the output plug in for amarok is: autodetect
[09:05] <tarden_>
  nop. =(
[09:05] <Spudchat> do you think an upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 will go smoothly through apt?
[09:06] <gan|y|med> has anybody knetworkmanager up and running with mac filtering or wep enc???
[09:06] <n3storm> Spudchat: if you haven't made many changes to your repositories there shouldn't be many problems
[09:06] <killermach_> kaffiene is only playing audio for a blender tutorial AVI .. what do I need to install to get video playback?
[09:06] <cyprene> Killer, do you have the extra codecs?
[09:07] <cryptom> hi, I've seen in my xorg.conf within the InputDevice section that there is the line: Option "XkbOptions" "lv3:ralt_switch"
[09:07] <cryptom> what does that mean?
  so? have any ideas how to solve this prob?
[09:09] <cyprene> I've got nothing.
[09:09] <cyprene> Sorry.
[09:09] <cyprene> When I tried to get japanese input, here is how I did it.
[09:09] <n0ne> np.. thx anyway
[09:09] <cyprene> I set my default language to english
[09:09] <cyprene> installed
[09:09] <cyprene> then went to language options
[09:10] <cyprene> selected japanese
[09:10] <cyprene> then it installed the packs
[09:10] <cyprene> then I went to regional and language options in the systems
[09:10] <cyprene> set the language to japanese
[09:10] <cyprene> and then restarted
[09:10] <cyprene> and it worked
[09:10] <n0ne> i'll try it now, thx
[09:10] <shadowhywind> i was wondering if someone could help me with my vpn, i keep getting a Auth Username/Password was not provided by peer error
[09:11] <voicu> why is firestarter blocking a port i opened explicitly?
[09:11] <voicu> does the protocol used have any to do with this?
[09:12] <DeadFishMan> pj: In this case, try playing with the backends available to Amarok to determine which one is working. If it is not aRTS, that means that you probably have to disable to Sound System in the Control Panel.
[09:12] <voicu> i get a lot of denied connections on port 6881 (torrent) although it is clearly opened in the policy tab
[09:12] <gdiebel> what does the kernel message say when the partition was not cleanly unmounted?
[09:13] <BluesKaj> voicu, router port forwarding ?
[09:13] <voicu> no, simple firewall
[09:13] <voicu> and it's blocking some of the connections
[09:13] <BluesKaj> why are you using a FW
[09:14] <DeadFishMan> voicu: Torrent clients usually try to open lots of ports beyond 6881. You probably will need to allow connections on a certain range and set up your client to use that port range
[09:14] <voicu> blueskaj: why is that important?
[09:14] <BluesKaj> !firewall
[09:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:15] <pj> I changed output plugin for amaro to ALSa and I got an error message sayin xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers
[09:15] <voicu> deadfishman: i saw that, but i would have to open all the ports... the thing is some connections succed while others don't
[09:15] <Spudchat> n3storm, sorry, i had a phone call...what do you mean by changes to my repositories?
[09:15] <pj> and no sound comes form amarok anymore ..
[09:15] <BluesKaj> well, some ppl say a FW is uneccessary in Linux , and others disagree ...i have  no opinion cuz I'm behind a router hardware FW
[09:15] <n3storm> Spudchat: do you have standard ubuntu apt repositories?
[09:15] <voicu> BluesKaj: yesterday i was directed to the same stuff because i had a problem with an attack
[09:16] <n0ne> Anyone here playing or played Savage?
[09:16] <Spudchat> n3storm, more or less, i added the PLF repo and the cannonical commercial repo and OOo final
[09:16] <DeadFishMan> voicu: See this: http://btfaq.com/serve/cache/25.html
[09:16] <n3storm> Spudchat: mmm
[09:17] <Spudchat> mmm as in delicious or utoh?
[09:17] <DeadFishMan> pj: Keep switching the backends and try again...
[09:17] <n3storm> Spudchat: :D
[09:17] <n3storm> Spudchat: I think you should be okay
[09:17] <Spudchat> heh allright then...thanks n3storm for the info
[09:17] <n3storm> I had problems when having beryl and so repositories
[09:17] <pj> amarok output plug in to arts -> no sound either ..
[09:17] <DeadFishMan> voicu: That page suggests opening all the TCP ports from 6881 to 6999
[09:18] <DeadFishMan> voicu: Sounds like a reasonable compromise to me :)
[09:18] <Spudchat> im not interested in flashy desktop magic...ill wait for kde4
[09:18] <DeadFishMan> pj: If it works using OSS, then you have a bigger problem :)
[09:19] <BluesKaj> voicu, using ktorrent ?
[09:19] <voicu> deadfishman: that's not point, people connect to me to 6881 and some get refused
[09:20] <voicu> BluesKaj, yes
[09:20] <cyber-hazard> suggestions for a program to video conference (read: webcam) with someone using windows?
[09:21] <DeadFishMan> cyber-hazard: Kopete, aMSN and Ekiga
[09:21] <BluesKaj> voicu, have you opened UDP tracker port 4444 ?
[09:21] <cyber-hazard> DeadFishMan: if using Kopete, you recommend using the MSN protocol? cause the Yahoo one was complete shite (but then, I don't know if that's a problem with my computer, kopete, or Y!
[09:21] <pj> @DFM the oss plug in is working for amarok. what does this means ?
[09:22] <voicu> BluesKaj, yes i did but that didn't do any good. i think i am supposed to connect on port 4444, not someone to me
[09:23] <voicu> anyway, the problem is "why do people get refused when i set a rule that accepts connections on a specific port?"
[09:24] <voicu> woo, 128kB just got through, only 438 Days left...
[09:25] <pj> I put output audio device OSS in my my player and now I can hera the sound.. !! thanks.
[09:25] <cloakable> doodle on edgy seems to have some severe limitations :/
[09:25] <jager> what might be some common reasons flash 9 will not output sound on an edgy box that was dist-upgraded
[09:26] <jager> this is the one thing that isn't working :P
[09:26] <pj> where can I read something about this sounds sytems ? can I change the settings for all application in one central place ?
[09:26] <morenin> emm... espaol?
[09:26] <cyber-hazard> !es
[09:26] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:27] <morenin> como hago para conectarme directamente al #kubuntu-es?
[09:27] <voicu> type /join #kubuntu-es
[09:27] <cyber-hazard>  /j #kubuntu-es
[09:28] <morenin> aja
[09:28] <morenin> thankss
[09:28] <morenin> ;)
[09:28] <voicu> avec plaisir :P
[09:28] <marinka> Hi, i have big problem. I reconfigured xserver - sudo -reconfigure etc.... and i restarted it and i can not login (login failed]  to my account throught KDM login, i must use Console login and i am able to log in.
[09:29] <marinka> Why? system changed my (and root's) password?
[09:29] <marinka> I can not login as root in console and i can not change accounts throught User management
[09:30] <slow-motion> n8
[09:30] <juano__> marinka: did you do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver?
[09:30] <marinka> Yes
[09:30] <juano__> marinka: what is the exact error?
[09:31] <marinka> juano__:I can not login to my default account and i can not login as root (there are same passwords)
[09:31] <juano__> marinka: you cant login console either?
[09:32] <marinka> juano__:When i switch to console login it is ok....
[09:32] <juano__> marinka: did you try to login through KDE failsafe?
[09:32] <MDeadFishan> Heheh... My baby daughter reset my PC XD
[09:32] <marinka> yes...
[09:32] <juano__> marinka: ah ok
[09:32] <cyber-hazard> MDeadFishan: hehe, that's awesome :P
[09:33] <juano__> and when you login to kde what happens?
[09:33] <MDeadFishan> pj: If only OSS is working, then that means that ALSA is not loaded at all. You may want to install ALSA from the repositories
[09:33] <MDeadFishan> pj: I believe that Ubuntu will attempt to setup the sound driver for you afterwards
[09:34] <MDeadFishan> cyber-hazard: Yep :)
[09:34] <mefisto_> hi guys
[09:35] <juano__> marinka: when you try to login through KDE what happens?
[09:35] <MDeadFishan> cyber-hazard: So, did you try again using the webcam with Kopete? Before I was rudely interrupted :) I was going to say that it works fine for me with MSN, but I never tried Y!
[09:35] <mefisto_> can somebody help me?
[09:35] <pj> alsa-oss ?
[09:35] <marinka> juano__: it write "login failed"
[09:35] <cyber-hazard> MDeadFishan: yeah, it doesn't work well with Y!. Sometimes my computer crashes, or her cam only sends a couple frames and then freezes. but I wasn't sure if ti was my computer, her/my cam, or Y!
[09:35] <marinka> juano__: it seems that system has change root password
[09:35] <cyber-hazard> MDeadFishan: if it works okay with MSN for you then I'll give that a shot and see
[09:35] <juano__> marinka: mmm...
[09:36] <smoze> hi! i just installed kubuntu and was just wondering if it should ask root password wich it didn't???
[09:36] <juano__> marinka: do you have gnome? or Xfce? can you login from there?
[09:36] <MDeadFishan> pj: OSS is Linux.s old Open Sound System. ALSA is a modern sound system intended to replace OSS. That package - alsa-oss - provides a compatibility layer for old applications that are not aware of ALSA and tries to use OSS instead.
[09:36] <juano__> !root | smoze
[09:36] <cyber-hazard> smoze: will never ask for the root password (as there really isn't one)
[09:36] <ubotu> smoze: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:37] <marinka> juano__:No, i have only KDE, i will try to revive my backup xorg.conf file
[09:37] <Varjat_by> Hi! I try to install mplayer on 6.10, but I have a terrible noise instead sound.. I try to build mplayer from sorces and also intall them with apt-get...
[09:37] <juano__> marinka: yes, you can try that if you have a backup
[09:37] <MDeadFishan> pj: This is specially true for certain non-free apps such as the old Flash Player (up to version 7) that uses OSS. The latest version uses ALSA, though.
[09:37] <juano__> marinka: that may work
[09:37] <smoze> ubotu: thanks
[09:37] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[09:37] <marinka> ok
[09:37] <cyber-hazard> but bots have feelings too
[09:37] <cyber-hazard> !love
[09:37] <juano__> marinka: ill be back in an hour or so, sorry i have to go no
[09:37] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[09:37] <smoze> hehehe
[09:37] <cyber-hazard> sorry, that's my favourite command ever
[09:37] <calcified> i have a question
[09:38] <smoze> keep up the good work
[09:38] <calcified> in KDE--system settings->Display, when i try to change the video driver from VESA to fglrx, the UI won't give me the ability to apply the changes for some reason...?
[09:39] <calcified> any ideas?
[09:39] <pj> alsa-base is already installed on the system. maybe I have to activate it somewhere in the system settings ?
[09:40] <Varjat_by> It is offen problem for me - I can't apply or switch to administrator mode in some cases in KControl
[09:41] <calcified> i have no problems switching to administrator mode, its just that in the UI, the actual "apply" button appears greyed out
[09:44] <soulrider> !botsnack
[09:44] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:45] <Mez> lol
[09:46] <Varjat_by> Hi! I try to install mplayer on 6.10, but I have a terrible noise instead sound.. I try to build mplayer from sorces and also intall them with apt-get...
[09:47] <MDeadFishan> Varjat_by: Try to change the audio output by using -ao. Eg: mplayer -ao sdl
[09:47] <Varjat_by> sdl?..
[09:47] <Varjat_by> Why not ALSA?
[09:48] <MDeadFishan> Varjat_by: sdl was just an example. Try to see the audio output options available to you and try them all to see if it helps
[09:48] <Tox> how to change os language to my preferred ?
[09:48] <dwidmann> Hmmm, vlc doesn't seem to want to go full screen :(
[09:48] <Tox> i mean ol dialogs etc
[09:48] <Tox> i have installed my lang pack already
[09:49] <Varjat_by> MDeadFishan: By default mplayer use oss. I compile mplayer with alsa, and at now if i type -ao alsa i have the same result as for oss
[09:49] <MDeadFishan> Tox: Have you tried to change the Language on the Control Center (or Panel)
[09:50] <MDeadFishan> ?
[09:50] <Tox> no .. tnx
[09:50] <Tox> i will
[09:50] <Xera> i'm getting this error from timidity:
[09:50] <Xera> jamie@jamie:~$ timidity -iAD -Os
[09:50] <Xera> Requested buffer size 32768, fragment size 8192
[09:50] <Xera> ALSA pcm 'default' set buffer size 60208, period size 3760 bytes
[09:50] <Xera> TiMidity starting in ALSA server mode
[09:50] <Xera> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[09:50] <Xera> error in snd_seq_open
[09:50] <Varjat_by> with sdl it is now sound at all
[09:51] <Tox> MDeadFishan: tnx it works
[09:53] <Varjat_by> Also a have a problem with LIRC + KWorld cx88xx tv card :)
[09:53] <Varjat_by> sudo modprobe lirc_gpio
[09:53] <Varjat_by> FATAL: Error inserting lirc_gpio (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/misc/lirc_gpio.ko): Invalid request code
[09:54] <Varjat_by> And i can't understand wat does it mean
[09:54] <ubuntu> czesc
[09:54] <anouk> hello
[09:55] <dwidmann> I've got not a clue Varjat_by ... my infrared remote works very well :)
[09:55] <ubuntu> Jest kto z polski
[09:55] <ubuntu> ??
[09:55] <Varjat_by> I review the forums and saw, that you are not alone, as me..
[09:56] <Varjat_by> Jest ktos z Belarusi :)
[09:56] <anouk> yeah
[09:56] <MDeadFishan> Tox: I am glad to hear that :)
[09:56] <ubuntu> ja jestem z polski
[09:56] <ubuntu> ale moe si dogadamy varjat
[09:56] <MDeadFishan> Varjat_by: Regarding mplayer: No idea. Regarding the TV card: No idea either. :)
[09:56] <MDeadFishan> Varjat_by: Sorry, pal!
[09:57] <anouk> hello are you english
[09:57] <Varjat_by> MDeadFishan: Thanks! :)
[09:57] <anouk> i am holands
[09:57] <MDeadFishan> Varjat_by: Was the module complied against your current kernel?
[09:57] <ubuntu> I do speak polish
[09:57] <anouk> holands
[09:58] <ubuntu> English small
[09:58] <MDeadFishan> *compiled
[09:58] <anouk> i am from the nederland
[09:58] <apokryphos> ubotu: polish
[09:58] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:58] <apokryphos> ubotu: nl
[09:58] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[09:58] <anouk> fuck you polihs
[09:59] <tony> hello..I have finally installed realplayer 10 on my kubuntu edgy OS...but when I go to play a real media video from firefox it says kaffeine starter plugin, launches kaffiene and gives me an error message...I know that the real media plugins are in te firefox plugin folder...why is it trying to open kaffeine?
[09:59] <ubuntu> I do know
[09:59] <ubuntu> :((((((((((((((((((((
[09:59] <HymnToLife> !language | anouk
[09:59] <ubotu> anouk: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:59] <k-osh> Anyone who can give some insight into this (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2083/). I just did a test-install of Feisty and I feel that I probably should report the error to someone somewhere, but under what package? adept-common? Something else? Also, is it possible to solve the dependancy problem?
[09:59] <Riddell> anouk: don't be abusive
[09:59] <Varjat_by> MDeadFishan: of course..
[09:59] <anouk> srry thats was my brother
[10:00] <mena> HI! FREINDS ....i need to change permisions for my partitions ...What do to ?...
[10:00] <apokryphos> ubotu: permissions
[10:00] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[10:01] <mena> thanks ...apokryphos
[10:01] <tony> any helpwould be much appreciated with my realplayer problem
[10:02] <anouk> i love engeland
[10:02] <anouk> end you
[10:03] <anouk> riddell are you a boy ore a girl
[10:03] <tony> anyone?
[10:04] <Tm_T> anouk: Definately neither one.
[10:04] <k-osh> tony: Upgrading to realplayer9?
[10:04] <Tm_T> anouk: Plastic and steel can't have gender.
[10:05] <tony> no no...I have installed realplayer 10 and the appropriate plugins for firefox...but when I go to a webpage and try to load a real media video firefox tries to use kaffeine and of course it doesn't work
[10:05] <mena> Iis there anyproblem if i nstalled opera browser
[10:05] <flaccid> mena: no
[10:05] <k-osh> tony: Realplayer10? Isn't Real9 just out for Linux?
[10:05] <anouk> why you talking about mi
[10:05] <tony> nope..realplayer 10 is out
[10:06] <mena> flaccid: thanks
[10:06] <jhutchins> k-osh: You're thinking Flash 9.
[10:06] <anouk> fuckyou
[10:06] <flaccid> anouk: just say where and when
[10:06] <k-osh> jhutchins: Right, I am. Thanks.
[10:06] <just-this-time> !language | anouk
[10:06] <ubotu> anouk: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:07] <k-osh> tony: Sorry, don't do much realplayer.
[10:07] <tony> no prob k-osh..anyone else know what I can do?
[10:08] <jhutchins> tony: Easiest thing is to go to that page, right click the link, specify Real, and tell it to rember your choice.
[10:08] <jhutchins> tony: Other than that, go into the config and edit the helper apps.(?)
[10:08] <faLUCE> Hi, how can I see if i have a serial port (i have a "packed" pc, and I can't open the box) ?
[10:09] <tony> ummm...ok...when I right click the link what option do I choose to select real?
[10:10] <k-osh> What to do about this? "The following packages have unmet dependencies:  gtk-qt-engine: Conflicts: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt (< 1:0.7-2) but 0.70-4ubuntu2 is to be installed."
[10:11] <k-osh> Hmm, installing gtk-qt-engine obviously isn't the solution (it removed gtk2-engines-gtk-qt) but still it won't work.
[10:11] <k-osh> And I still can't update the system.
[10:13] <k-osh> Is it common that aptitude dies during install? Also, shouldn't aptitude be able to overwrite a damn png which appears to be the problem.
[10:14] <faLUCE> i try to repeat: i have my PC "closed" in a container... Is there a way too see, trhough command line, it it has a serial port?
[10:14] <k-osh> Hmm, odd. Upgrade seems to work now. Dist-upgrade died every time. How quaint.
[10:16] <tobias_____> why does ktorrent not work good?
[10:16] <k-osh> faLUCE: perhaps lspci shows that. I doubt it though.
[10:16] <tobias_____> wow, there are lots of tobiases online
[10:16] <schlonzo> hey,,, can anybody tell me pls why automatiks dont start downloading anything?
[10:16] <tobias_1> :)
[10:17] <apokryphos> !automatix | schlonzo
[10:17] <ubotu> schlonzo: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:18] <Ayabara> I get "truecrypt: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by truecrypt)" when I try to run truecrypt. anyone know what's missing?
[10:19] <k-osh> hmm, faLUCE disappeared. I was going to suggest dmidecode. Seems to show what I need.
[10:19] <k-osh> what HE needs.
[10:21] <eMaX> hi all
[10:22] <eMaX> ne1 can help finding out what mdsnwikwbas08-pool16-a158.mdsnwikw.tds.net or <IP_ADDRESS> is? Someone tried to hack my server from that address yesterday and to me, "pool***" sounds like sort of an IP pool where someone may be interested what happens on his servers.
[10:22] <cloakable> eMaX: How do you know it was a hack?
[10:23] <Ayabara> anyone? how can I install GLIBC_2.4?
[10:23] <manchicken> eMaX: What exacty are you trying to do?
[10:23] <Reliant> bleh, McVelet is on:join spamming
[10:24] <eMaX> I kow it since I've tons of brute force attacks on my sshd failures in my messages
[10:24] <manchicken> Ayabara: Chances are you already have it installed.
[10:24] <k-osh> Ayabara: Are you sure that there isn't a LD_ASSUME_KERNEL or some annoying crap like that in the start-script. That can mess up a lot for you.
[10:24] <eMaX> I just want to tell someone over there that their system is being misused.
[10:24] <flipjarg> i've been trying different howto's all day trying to get my 5-Button IntelliMouse to work. Is there anyone who has had success getting theirs to work?
[10:25] <manchicken> eMaX: That's going to be a lot harder than you think.
[10:25] <k-osh> eMaX: Someones zombie windows machine. I wouldn't bother.
[10:25] <manchicken> eMaX: Just get a hardware firewall and be done with it.
[10:25] <eMaX> look at http://<IP_ADDRESS> seems to be an awkward community.
time to sign up and start acting like an ass. remember: who you are and what you're worth is defined by what you do on this site. that and your pants.</quote>
[10:26] <Alvin_> If I print something to PDF, all characters are 'dancing' and are converted to images. I want to install gs-afpl or gs-gpl (anything that works), but how can I make that the default for the KDE PDF printer?
[10:26] <eMaX> anyway. I'm just too pissed of that my linux server for some reason went down yesterday and that was the first things I found
[10:27] <Ayabara> manchicken, k-osh, could be something there. maybe I should just download the source and build truecrypt myself
[10:27] <Reliant> I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu w/ KDE (kubuntu packages), and Firefox looks ugly. The white is so bright, pale blue comes off as white, the fonts are jagged, and there's colour bleeding :(
[10:27] <flipjarg> Does anyone know a tutorial that will work for getting a 5-Button Mouse to work in Edgy Eft?
[10:27] <flipjarg> i've tried and tried howto's and they don't work.
[10:28] <flipjarg> i need a good on.
[10:28] <flipjarg> one*
[10:29] <k-osh> Ayabara: Or have a look at the start-scripts. Also, what's the error msg?
[10:29] <jasondy> Hello all.
[10:30] <k-osh> Ayabara: Building from source can be a bit of a pain.
[10:30] <Ayabara> k-osh: "truecrypt: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by truecrypt)"
[10:30] <jasondy> i've been trying all day. Is there any howto out there to help me get a 5 button mouse to work with Edgy Eft?
[10:31] <k-osh> Ayabara: is there a file in /lib/tls.... on your machine?
[10:31] <k-osh> Ayabara: And what are you trying to run when you get the error?
[10:32] <Ayabara> k-osh, there are some files with version number 2.3.6 there. I'm trying to mount an encrypted truecrypt volume
[10:33] <Ayabara> k-osh, how can I check my kernel version?
[10:33] <k-osh> Ayabara: So you're running "mount"? Is the file  /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 there?
[10:33] <k-osh> Ayabara: uname -a
[10:34] <Ayabara> k-osh, 2.6.15-26-386. is that the latest one?
[10:34] <cryptom> Hi, is there a linux tool to convert mp3 -> wav?
[10:34] <Ayabara> k-osh, not mount exactly. do you know truecrypt?
[10:35] <k-osh> Ayabara: I know it's a good way to hide porn but I haven't used it myself. ;-)
[10:35] <Ayabara> k-osh, :D
[10:36] <k-osh> Ayabara: Dunno which kernel is the latest one. Depends on what dist you're running and a few other things.
[10:36] <Ayabara> k-osh, actually this time it is a file containing my passwords :-)
[10:36] <Ayabara> I'm running edgy, so I thought I should've had 2.6.17
[10:36] <k-osh> Ayabara: Right. You need an encrypted VOLUME to hide passwords. It's not like an encrypted file will do. I get it... ;-)
[10:36] <dwidmann> latest in edgy is indeed 2.6.17
[10:37] <dwidmann> (more like only in edgy really)
[10:39] <Ayabara> dwidmann, then it's weird that I have 2.6.15. Maybe I have installed dapper instead of edgy :)
[10:39] <k-osh> Ayabara: cat /etc/issue
[10:40] <dwidmann> or lsb_release -a
[10:40] <nagyv> I get an error that the sound output is used, so I can not play any sounds. How can I find out the program that uses it?
[10:40] <Ayabara> k-osh, dwidmann, now _this: is embarassing....
[10:40] <cj_>  im trying to burn a Mp3 Cd, but K3b  says its not suppoerted? any idea how to fix that?
[10:41] <k-osh> dwidmann: Good tip. Didn't know about lsb_release. =)
[10:41] <Ayabara> k-osh, dwidmann, mislabeled my cd and watched a movie while installing. I have dapper.....
[10:41] <dwidmann> whoops?
[10:41] <k-osh> Ayabara: And trying to install an "Edgy" package on it?
[10:41] <Ayabara> dwidmann, indeed
[10:41] <Ayabara> k-osh, hmm. nothing to lose :-)
[10:42] <k-osh> !mp3
[10:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:42] <dwidmann> cj_ you'll need to install the lame package, I think
[10:42] <cj_> :(
[10:42] <dwidmann> "sudo aptitude install lame"
[10:42] <cj_> mmk
[10:42] <cj_> lol
[10:42] <k-osh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2083/ . Is it possible to solve the dependancy problem?
[10:45] <Ayabara> k-osh, dwidmann, trying an upgrade now. thanks for helping me see my mistakes :-)
[10:46] <k-osh> Ayabara: Good luck with that. My dapper to edgy didn't go all that well. Seems like the disks didn't get labeled. Ho hum.
[10:47] <k-osh> dwidmann: Is 64-bit ok to run now. Last I checked I couldn't watch movies in it, unless I did some ugly chroot-thingy.
[10:47] <dwidmann> k-osh, it hasn't been like that since breezy
[10:47] <nagyv> Ayabara: mine neither, after a while I get a stabel system, but still I decided to reinstall everything, and this was a really good choice
[10:47] <Ayabara> k-osh, did you do the Distribution Upgrade from dapper -> edgy or install edgy from disc?
[10:47] <k-osh> Ayabara: dapper->edgy.
[10:47] <dwidmann> support was greatly improved in dapper
[10:47] <Ayabara> nagyv, ok. I have a clean system, so I'll take your advice and install from my disc
[10:48] <Ayabara> that's it for me. thank you and good night guys
[10:48] <nagyv> bye
[10:48] <k-osh> dwidmann: So a _64-mplayer will play anything I throw at it?
[10:49] <k-osh> or vlc or whatever
[10:49] <mena> Is The better To do Full Upgrade Form th adept Manager
[10:49] <mena> ?
[10:51] <mena> flaccid:  Is The better To do Full Upgrade Form th adept Manager ........
[10:51] <dwidmann> k-osh, you'll probably need to install a 32-bit mplayer for it, easy in dapper, not so in edgy. Else, if all you're really looking for is wmv support, it's in mplayer 1.0RC and later
[10:52] <k-osh> dwidmann: ok. now I'm off to bed.
[10:52] <k-osh> g'nite guys
[10:52] <dwidmann> good night
[10:52] <flaccid> mena: upgrade of what?
[10:53] <mena> flaccid:  i dont i just do update to the adeptand after that i found apply changes (that appear becouse of me i mean choose thing without know or this happened by itself)
[10:55] <mena> flaccid: if you dont get it no problem becmy english is not good
[10:56] <flaccid> mena: what are you upgrading?
[10:57] <mena> flaccid: i simply dont know in any i cancel it and i will look in itagain if i had a problem i will telll you ......:)
[10:58] <flaccid> ok
[10:58] <flaccid> i still dont know what you are doing, but ok
[10:58] <mena> flaccid: ok thanks
[10:58] <nagyv> I get an error that the sound output is used, so I can not play any sounds. How can I find out the program that uses it?
[10:58] <flaccid> if you are upgrading to edgy. i recommend doing a fresh install instead.
[10:58] <mena> flaccid: no no no i am edgy
[10:59] <mena> i am talking about the adept manager
[10:59] <raf> hello, I have an Ubuntu box with phpMp, a media player via web which uses MPD, this one has a set of speakers; I have a Kubuntu box, without speaker, Can I play music in my kubuntu box and listen to it in the Ubuntu box via MPD?
[11:00] <mena> flaccid: i found in it full upgrade then i press on itthen nothing happened after that i found apply changes then i press then i come to ask you in any way i will tell you if there is any problem .....in any way thanks for you help
[11:01] <mena> flaccid: about the adept
[11:02] <flaccid> i wouldn't use adept to a dist-upgrade
[11:02] <flaccid> if you are on edgy, i have no idea what you are doing. probably best to learn some english first.
[11:05] <Tobias_1> testing my kopete yay!
[11:05] <Tobias_1> someone say something
[11:05] <DeadFishMan> Tobias_1: something!
[11:06] <DeadFishMan> XD
[11:06] <flaccid> something
[11:06] <Tobias_1> yay!
[11:06] <Tobias_1> it works :D
[11:06] <Tobias_1> no more konversation
[11:06] <Tobias_1> kopete all the way
[11:07] <DeadFishMan> Tobias_1: Does it support DCC file transfers?
[11:07] <Tobias_1> hmm
[11:07] <Tobias_1> I dont know, I just started trying it out
[11:07] <Tobias_1> it looks nicer
[11:07] <dwidmann> I ran into memory leaks with Kopete for IRC :(
[11:07] <Tobias_1> and it works with my msn and jabber accounts, so its an all in one experience
[11:07] <Tobias_1> it probably works with dcc
[11:09] <Tobias_1> oh yes! dcc works!
[11:09] <Tobias_1> Im just not registered
[11:09] <DeadFishMan> Tobias_1: Somehow, I don't want to use my IM client to IRC. It feels like I'm using a screwdriver to hit on a nail, ya know? :)
[11:09] <Tobias_1> hehe
[11:09] <DeadFishMan> Tobias_1: And that comes from a guy which is absolutely in love with Kopete!
[11:09] <Tobias_1> it works
[11:11] <D7k> so how difficult is it to use an airport extreme card in an ibook g4 on kubuntu
[11:15] <dwidmann> d7k, the crickets have officially chirped at your question, I recommend asking on the ubuntuforums in the ppc users section
[11:23] <bronze_0_1> Hi, sorry to bother y'all. I've forgotten the command to find out what package provides something. For example if i wanted to find out what package provides Adobe reader, what command do I use?
[11:24] <mindspin> apt-cache show acrobat ?
[11:24] <bronze_0_1> mindspin: thank you
[11:25] <manchicken> Why do you want to run acroread?
[11:26] <bronze_0_1> well, I'm using Kpdf right now and its very slow. paainfully slow
[11:26] <manchicken> I've found just the opposite.
[11:27] <bronze_0_1> manchicken: I'm looking at a 287 page document
[11:27] <manchicken> Is that all ^_6
[11:28] <bronze_0_1> each time I go to the next page I get chicken feet hash, not text for about 2 seconds.  Thats slow to me.  acrobat has been consistently better.
[11:29] <NinjjaX> existe algum bom canal sobre kubuntu brasileiro?!
[11:30] <manchicken> !it | NinjjaX
[11:30] <ubotu> NinjjaX: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:30] <manchicken> Or was that portugese/
[11:30] <manchicken> !pr | NinjjaX
[11:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:30] <NinjjaX> thanks...
[11:30] <manchicken> Grumble....
[11:30] <manchicken> np
[11:31] <brandon__> can someone tell me an application like nero that will burn bin files for dvd movies.. like a program that takes little or no hassle.
[11:31] <mindspin> k3b?
[11:31] <manchicken> bronze_0_1: Perhaps I'm just biased against proprietary software, but acroread does have ads in it.
[11:32] <bronze_0_1> heh. they must not be working. I've never noticed them :-)
[11:32] <manchicken> See the search box?
[11:32] <gruggo> Hey, I need some help to install Amsn, it doesn't work when i write "sudo apt-get install amsn" :(
[11:33] <Tobias_1> what is amsn?
[11:33] <Tobias_1> and why dont you use adept
[11:33] <Tobias_1> adept rocks
[11:33] <Tobias_1> :)
[11:33] <gruggo> ..amsn:)
[11:33] <manchicken> w00t!  Adept!
[11:33] <flaccid> !amsn
[11:33] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[11:33] <gruggo> ..hey wait.. Sweden?
[11:33] <Tobias_1> oy
[11:33] <Tobias_1> use kopete instead
[11:33] <flaccid> gruggo: do you have universe enabled?
[11:33] <Tobias_1> norway! :)
[11:34] <Tobias_1> representing the northpole we are
[11:34] <gruggo> universe?
[11:34] <flaccid> norway != northpole :)
[11:34] <manchicken> Mmm... kopete...
[11:34] <flaccid> !universe > gruggo
[11:34] <gruggo> I sould let you know that i'm new on linux :P
[11:34] <FreddyM> whats the command to update grub
[11:34] <flaccid> gruggo: cool start learning :)
[11:34] <flaccid> FreddyM: update-grub
[11:35] <gruggo> ...yeah^o) But still, how do I get amsn installed?^o)
[11:35] <fjellrev1> Tobias_1: use kopete, I used amsn until I understood how good kopete is
[11:35] <fjellrev1> gruggo i mean :)
[11:35] <FreddyM> flaccid: oops, i was trying grub-update
[11:35] <flaccid> gruggo: did ubotu message you about universe?
[11:35] <flaccid> !universe
[11:35] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:35] <gruggo> I don't get it^o)
[11:35] <flaccid> ^^^ read that gruggo and that will help you
[11:35] <gruggo> thx xD
[11:35] <flaccid> gruggo: you couldn't have read that in less than 30 seconds
[11:35] <DeadFishMan> gruggo: Try sudo apt-get install amsn
[11:36] <flaccid> DeadFishMan: gruggo already tried that. probably needs universe enabled first.
[11:36] <Tobias_1> I use kopete
[11:36] <flaccid> i use kopete as well
[11:36] <DeadFishMan> gruggo: But you will need to follow the instructions in the link that ubotu gave to you to know how to enable universe repositories first
[11:36] <Tobias_1> kopete rocks
[11:36] <DeadFishMan> flaccid: I realized that too late :)
[11:37] <flaccid> heheh
[11:37] <Tobias_1> im on 5 different networks with my kopete
[11:37] <flaccid> at least my cup of tea tastes good
[11:37] <flaccid> i just use 3
[11:37] <flaccid> i'd only use 1 if people didn't use msn
[11:37] <flaccid> msn is woeful
[11:37] <Tobias_1> kopete has msn support :)
[11:38] <flaccid> it sure does
[11:38] <brandon__> bin to iso app?
[11:38] <Tobias_1> !iso
[11:38] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[11:38] <Tobias_1> !bin
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <Tobias_1> I dont kno man
[11:39] <flaccid> brandon__: google should help there
[11:39] <brandon__> im looking
[11:39] <Tobias_1> I think the !iso part helps
[11:39] <Tobias_1> look on that page
[11:39] <Tobias_1> maybe
[11:39] <brandon__> everything seems to be scripts and command line stuff
[11:39] <flaccid> your right bin2iso is on that info page
[11:39] <galorin> brandon__, I think there is a program called bin2iso that'll do it, it's in a repository somewhere, multiverse I think..
[11:40] <Tobias_1> :)
[11:40] <flaccid> !bin2iso
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin2iso - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <flaccid> !find bin2iso
[11:40] <ubotu> Package/file bin2iso does not exist in edgy
[11:40] <flaccid> doesn't look like ubuntu packages it
[11:41] <flaccid> looks like you'll have to compile the c
[11:41] <flaccid> as per the page no biggie
[11:45] <dope> LAMP doesn't have an ftp server does it?
[11:47] <DeadFishMan> dope: Don't know, but you can always add PureFTPd to the mix. You can even use MySQL to authenticate ftp connections afterwards.
[11:47] <HymnToLife> LAMP is Linux, Apache, PHP, MySQL
[11:47] <HymnToLife> no FTP
[11:47] <flaccid> dope: lamp has nothing to do with ftp servers
[11:48] <dope> yea i didn't think so
[11:48] <HymnToLife> but you can very welk install a FTP server on the same machine if you want
[11:48] <dope> i would like to do that
[11:48] <flaccid> ubuntu also has vsftpd and proftpd available
[11:48] <dope> any reccomendations?
[11:48] <flaccid> i also recommend proftpd
[11:48] <HymnToLife> !vsftpd
[11:48] <ubotu> vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 109 kB, installed size 408 kB
[11:48] <dope> ok cool
[11:48] <DeadFishMan> Sorry! PureFTPd = ProFTPd
[11:49] <dope> uh so which one do i get
[11:49] <HymnToLife> but beware, if you want to conect via FTP from the net
[11:49] <HymnToLife> the password is sent in clear text so don't use a sudo account
[11:49] <dope> can i use ssl?
[11:50] <HymnToLife> maybe, I personally use FTP over SSH (aka SFTP)
[11:50] <DeadFishMan> dope: If you know how to use SSL, then you could just use OpenSSH with scp
[11:50] <dope> hmm
[11:50] <DeadFishMan> dope: SFTP is also a good choice
[11:50] <flaccid> either is fine and yes you can set up ssl
[11:50] <dope> i have openssh installed on the comp
[11:50] <HymnToLife> which I prefer over SCP since most standard FTP clients support SFTP too
[11:51] <dope> i stil need ftp software though right?
[11:51] <flaccid> sux if the server don't support it
[11:51] <flaccid> you need an ftp server to serve, an ftp client to connect to a server
[11:51] <DeadFishMan> HymnToLife: That's a moot point IMHO because Windows has at least one good SCP client - WinSCP - while *nix users can always use the goold old fish:// kio slave :)
[11:51] <HymnToLife> the sandard SSH server that comes with Ubuntu does SFTP too
[11:51] <HymnToLife> !openssh-server
[11:51] <ubotu> openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 212 kB, installed size 552 kB
[11:52] <dope> i styped sftp://ip in konqueror and it worked
[11:52] <flaccid> hmm fish isn't ftp :)
[11:52] <dope> typed8
[11:52] <dope> *
[11:52] <HymnToLife> DeadFishMan, FileZilla is a very good SFTP client for Windows
[11:52] <dope> so it's workin? :D
[11:52] <dope> i'd like to limit access to one folder
[11:52] <dope> htdocs folder
[11:52] <flaccid> krusader is a must!
[11:52] <flaccid> !krusader
[11:52] <ubotu> krusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70.1-1 (edgy), package size 2547 kB, installed size 6940 kB
[11:53] <DeadFishMan> HymnToLife: Good to know. Has been a while since the last time that I used FileZilla
[11:53] <dope> yea i got that
[11:54] <dope> ok so if i use pureftpd i can setup user acccounts and restrict them to a folder?
[11:54] <DeadFishMan> dope: I know that ProFTPd allos one to specify what would be the root directory from the FTP user point of view. Don't remember the details, but I pretty sure that it does.
[11:55] <dope> ok then proftpd it is
[11:56] <dope> - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'dope-laptop' error: Name or service not known
[11:56] <dope> i get that when starting proftpd
[11:57] <HymnToLife> disable IPv6 in the config, maybe ?
[11:57] <DeadFishMan> dope: You might want to take a look into their website for detailed instructions about how to set it up
[11:58] <dope> yea that'd probably be helpful :)
[11:58] <DeadFishMan> :)
[11:59] <mefisto_> somebody here O_O
[11:59] <Taime1> i installe dmy nvidia drivers using automatix, and im sure it was successful, i even have an nvidia splash at bootup now. BUT WHEN i open google earthy, it tells me that it cant recognize my video card.. whats up with that?
[11:59] <bjraz> how do I install a .deb file manually?
[12:00] <yuriy> bjraz: dpkg -i nameoffile.deb
[12:00] <HymnToLife> !deb bjraz
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about deb bjraz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <yuriy> Taime1: does glxgears work?
[12:00] <yuriy> !deb
[12:00] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[12:00] <Taime1> whats that yuriy
[12:00] <Taime1> ?
[12:01] <dope> hmm
[12:01] <bjraz> HymnToLife: Thank you, I'll tell you ir it works
[12:01] <yuriy> Taime1: it's a little program that shows you 3d gears. useful for checking if your graphics work. just type that in the run dialog or in konsole
[12:03] <Taime1> crap, i wont be able to till i get home... i do know that none of my screen savers were working
[12:04] <bjraz> HymnToLife: yes it wroked, I was upgrading a file, is there a special command for that?
[12:05] <Taime1> now, yuriy, assuming glxgears doesnt work, (and im assuming it wont) what can i do to fix this? nvidia configuration tools in synaptic??
[12:05] <HymnToLife> bjraz, what do you mean "upgrading a file" ?
[12:07] <bjraz> HymnToLife: my libc file was 2.4, I was updating it t 2.5
[12:07] <bjraz> HymnToLife: *libc6
[12:07] <bjraz> I'm in Failsafe mode
[12:08] <HymnToLife> bjraz, no Internet connection ?
[12:09] <yuriy> Taime1: i don't really have any ideas.  how did you install the driver?
[12:09] <yuriy> nvm you said that
[12:09] <Taime1> i used automatix
[12:09] <Taime1> it was the only way i could get it to install
[12:10] <bjraz> Hyymn: no, the update server that kubuntu is set to look at hasn't been updated
[12:10] <JuJuBee> Anybody have an idea / suggestion as to simple/easy way to change network settings when switching from work to home and visa versa?
[12:10] <JuJuBee> I try to use locations in network-admin, but it takes tooooo loooong.
[12:12] <JuJuBee> I also need to know how to add a route to the routing tables permanently for a particular location.  I get tired of doing it manually every time I restart my computer at work.
[12:13] <JuJuBee> Now I do sudo route add -net <IP_ADDRESS>/16 eth0
[12:13] <bjraz> HymnToLife: the server that apt-get looks at doesn't have the update
[12:14] <bjraz> or adept or what ever you use
[12:14] <sleepy495> My Edgy 6.10 hangs when I try to shut it down


[22:56] <kjcole> "Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day"
[22:56] <bcurtiswx> truer words can not be spoke
[22:56] <bcurtiswx> n
[22:58] <bcurtiswx> Im not even going to bother stating a log if nobody shows up
[22:58] <bcurtiswx> sdtarting*
[22:58] <bcurtiswx> of ffs
[22:58] <bcurtiswx> starting*****
[23:00] <kjcole> Well... Should we allow late arrivals (as yesterday we caught a third)?
[23:00] <bcurtiswx> im up for it
[23:00] <kjcole> And isn't there a #ping or some such once you start the meeting that reaches out to all who are theoretically on the channel?
[23:00] <bcurtiswx> idk how 3 would be a huge deal, but it seems we should be throwing a welcoming party for anyone else who shows up
[23:00] <kjcole> Heh.
[23:01] <bcurtiswx> ChinnoDog, JonathanD marcoceppi  paulproteus kjcole bcurtiswx MEETING TIME!!!
[23:01] <paulproteus> Well, that's exciting.
[23:02] <bcurtiswx> a third
[23:02]  * bcurtiswx worships paulproteus 's arrival
[23:02] <paulproteus> Don't get too excited. I'm actually not in DC at the moment (and only am periodically)
[23:02] <bcurtiswx> well you can at least give us a good head count for IRC meetings ;)
[23:02] <paulproteus> Perfect (-:
[23:03] <kjcole> paulproteus Yeah, I've often wondered what brought you to this channel. ;-)
[23:03] <paulproteus> Yeah.. I don't remember actually...
[23:03] <kjcole> Must be my charming personality.
[23:03] <bcurtiswx> I was gonna say the beard or red fedora..
[23:04] <paulproteus> Maybe I wanted to talk to you here for some reason here!
[23:04] <paulproteus> +/- extra "here"
[23:04] <kjcole> ;-)
[23:05] <bcurtiswx> Well, We'll postpone again until tomorrow. kjcole mind sending out an e-mail?
[23:05] <kjcole> So... Not looking promising...
[23:05] <bcurtiswx> we'll get a goos chunk of people on one day I hope
[23:05] <bcurtiswx> good*
[23:06] <bcurtiswx> If we go a week with no major progress, we'll have to go the "advertising" route
[23:06] <kjcole> OK. But, since my ISP is often unreliable from home, I've been staying at work to make sure I can attend.  I may go home tomorrow, and if luck holds, I'll be on. If not, well...
[23:07] <bcurtiswx> kjcole, im not worried about your attendance. I can guarantee you'll be here once the serious stuff comes along :)
[23:07] <kjcole> OK then.
[23:07] <bcurtiswx> kjcole, can't you just hack into someone elses wireless nearby?
[23:07] <bcurtiswx> O:-)
[23:08] <kjcole> Sometimes, actually. But the signal strength from nearby apartments isn't all that much.
[23:08] <bcurtiswx> pay your building to install wireless boosters?
[23:09] <bcurtiswx> paulproteus, your attendance has saved you from our sacrifice to the LoCo gods this evening ;)
[23:09] <bcurtiswx> poor JonathanD , he's voted for tonight
[23:10] <kjcole> bcurtiswx: I've considered some of the high-powered antennas being used by the DC Broadband Bridge folks.
[23:10] <kjcole> Anyway, I'm gonna book on outa here I think.
[23:10] <bcurtiswx> kjcole, thanks for your time once again
[23:10] <kjcole> Later.
[23:33] <JonathanD> Hi.
[23:33] <JonathanD> What did I do?


[21:32] <Amarok_TR> after 13.10 upgrade  i have no more wifi connection
[21:33] <SonikkuAmerica> No Wi-Fi? Let's see...
[21:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Can you see anything listed in the network manager?
[21:36] <Amarok_TR> yes i can see my old wifi cınnections listed
[21:37] <Amarok_TR> but i can not find the network manager
[21:37] <SonikkuAmerica> It's in the Settings Manager
[21:38] <Amarok_TR> after upgrade i see a bluetooth icın on tab
[21:38] <Amarok_TR> icon
[21:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Up top, on the menu bar?
[21:41] <Amarok_TR> no i can't find the network manager under settingsmanager
[21:41] <Amarok_TR> yes on the top
[21:41] <Amarok_TR> left from the battery icon
[21:46] <SonikkuAmerica> Then I doubt the network manager even got installed, if it's not there. I would pop the Live image back in and reinstall, this time choosing the "Reinstall Ubuntu Studio 13.10" option.
[21:48] <Amarok_TR> SonikkuAmerica: hi  i conected from my iphone  have u a ideo for my laptop?
[21:49] <Amarok_TR> SonikkuAmerica: idea
[21:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Amarok_TR: Then I doubt the network manager even got installed, if it's not there. I would pop the Live image back in and reinstall, this time choosing the "Reinstall Ubuntu Studio 13.10" option.
[21:50] <Amarok_TR> SonikkuAmerica: but i have not a image  i upgrated from 12.04 to 13.10 online
[21:51] <SonikkuAmerica> You can download one from http://www.ubuntustudio.org/
[21:51] <SonikkuAmerica> and then install grml-rescueboot and move the ISO to /boot/grml/ so you can boot it from GRUB 2
[21:52] <Amarok_TR> SonikkuAmerica: ok i know  but i dont want lost my all files
[21:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[21:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Amarok_TR: You can back your files up somewhere...
[21:53] <Amarok_TR> SonikkuAmerica: ok thank you