[06:13] <Gothfunc> but it's just a console screen with pages of that error
[06:13] <holycow> Gothfunc, i forget how to either bypass that or make sure that its not downloading updated packages during install
[06:14] <holycow> maybe someone else knows
[06:14] <edbe> what this kino is good for? DVD-making?
[06:14] <craigbass1976> raj, it's looking like System -> Administration -> Shared Folders though, but you'd have to ask someone else
[06:14] <holycow> strabes, all cool, debian rocks awsome
[06:14] <Gothfunc> surely this is a really fundamental thing, and it should just not connect to the net if there is no connection?
[06:14] <raj> craighbass1976  see i am on ubuntu linux system and i want to canect windows system what i do
[06:14] <strav> alsa main config file location, anyone? (seems asoundrc and friend are inexistant on my system)
[06:14] <J-_> I jsut recently installed phpbb on my ubuntu lamp server, and whenever i get directed to a 'https' page it doesn't display, it just says the page cannot be displayed, is https enabled when a server is installed?
[06:14] <holycow> indeed, there is no need to dl latest packages, one can do that manually later
[06:14] <malt> holycow to the bat mobile!
[06:15] <holycow> *pow* *bang* *zowie!*
[06:15] <malt> :P
[06:15] <malt> hehe yep
[06:15] <holycow> >_<
[06:15] <dagdg> Hio! kinda screwed up critical permissions on ubuntu, now I can't startup gnome. Any way to reset all permissions?
[06:15] <Gothfunc> in which case that's quite annoying
[06:15] <edbe> just testing the USB sound (it works well!)
[06:16] <holycow> Gothfunc, i think there must be a step that lets you state what you want to do, i just image base installs and forget what the install process is exactly
[06:16] <strav> how on earth can you punch a guy in order to make it sound like "zowie"?
[06:16] <reverseblade> dagdg, no
[06:16] <britt> dagdg: a buddy of mine told me the solution to all your problems is 'sudo rm -rf /'
[06:16] <britt> but he isnt my friend anymore
[06:16] <holycow> strav, magic of irc
[06:16] <Gothfunc> holycow, well this is how many people have the same problem as me: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22failed+to+start+the+card%22+ubuntu&btnG=Search&meta=
[06:17] <Gothfunc> holycow, yeah good plan with the imaging
[06:17] <holycow> 2 people?
[06:17] <holycow> >_>
[06:17] <holycow> Gothfunc, thats interesting ill try an install without internet connection tommorrow to check
[06:17] <DarkMageZ> you can't ignore the small reports. for every 1 person who reports a bug. 20 others didn't
[06:18] <strav> exit
[06:18] <britt> bootcd package
[06:18] <britt> how's it work
[06:18] <Takmadeus> greetings
[06:18] <Takmadeus> may I ask how do I restart privoxy?
[06:19] <britt> reverseblade: ps aux didnt list anything, but i killed my naim process and everything is good
[06:19] <holycow> probably sudo /etc/init.d/privoxysomethingsomething restart
[06:19] <diocles> edbe: I see, my webcam doesn't work either. The driver used to be in the kernel. :/
[06:19] <holycow> thats just a guess
[06:19] <nomin> I think I found the problem with my enemy-territory file.  It looks like it attached the webpage's html at the beginning of the file.  Gwget must have done that.
[06:19] <edbe> diocles, what's your webcam?
[06:19] <Gothfunc> holycow, it seems unlikely that it would be a non-specific error with such little presence on google.  i would imagine it's tied to my hardware or something
[06:19] <J-_> is https enabled when a ubuntu lamp server is installed?
[06:19] <diocles> edbe: I don't know, but it uses the same driver.
[06:19] <edbe> what's your problem now diocles?
[06:19] <diocles> edbe: The Ubuntu way of doing it is probably to use spca5xx-source.
[06:20] <edbe> what do you mean diocles?
[06:20] <reverseblade> britt, how it didn't list anything ? ps is somewhat historical by the way ps aux --sort=gcpu | less sorts for cPU for example (ascending)
[06:20] <diocles> edbe: I'll just get it working myself. ;)
[06:20] <Takmadeus> done, thanks
[06:20] <edbe> diocles, what did you do?
[06:21] <noclue> how do i install a programme??
[06:21] <reverseblade> When my computer is idle, beagle uses 70% of my cpu, is there a fix for this ?
[06:21] <holycow> yes
[06:21] <holycow> uninstall it
[06:21] <edbe> I've never messed around with a webcam before, so I'm kind of clueless in many ways
[06:21] <holycow> beagle is just indexing your files
[06:21] <britt> reverseblade: apparently that 25% was really like 78%
[06:21] <noclue> how do i install a programme??
[06:21] <holycow> if you let it run through it will just stop eventually
[06:21] <Takmadeus> does anyone in here use tor?
[06:22] <reverseblade> holycow, I know but it never stops using cpu
[06:22] <noclue> how do i install a programme??
[06:22] <reverseblade> britt, what 25 ?
[06:22] <holycow> noclue, system / adminisytration / synaptic
[06:22] <noclue> please help
[06:22] <holycow> noclue, thats where you start
[06:22] <holycow> reverseblade, it will
[06:22] <diocles> edbe: I'm using module-assistant to install the driver. It will take me a few minutes.
[06:22] <noclue> holycow its not in synaptic list
[06:22] <reverseblade> holycow, even after 9h it is working ?
[06:22] <Takmadeus> I need help with tor+privoxy
[06:22] <deadlygorila> is there anyway to change your mac address with ubuntu?
[06:22] <holycow> noclue, whats not in synaptic?
[06:23] <holycow> that wasn't your question either
[06:23] <britt> reverseblade: nevermind. anyway that one process was using much more cpu than I noticed in top and ps
[06:23] <noclue> the file
[06:23] <holycow> what file?
[06:23] <britt> it had like 722 cpu hours
[06:23] <noclue> tsemgr-0.08
[06:23] <holycow> what is that? where didc you get it
[06:23] <holycow> and why aren't you looking for software PACKAGED FOR UBUNTU?
[06:23] <holycow> :)
[06:24] <Vigor> noclue: In terminal are a few ways, Synaptic Package Manager is easy and lists all supported programs for your Distro.
[06:24] <noclue> it's a .tar.gz file for phone software
[06:24] <holycow> noclue, remember, to install software, from a noobs perspedctie, IT HAS TO BE PACKAGED for the operating system
[06:24] <holycow> for example
[06:24] <reverseblade> holycow, how much time does beagle need to settle down on the average . I know it depends but, 1 day, 1 mo , 1 year ?
[06:24] <holycow> windows 98 is usually a separate app package from windows xp
[06:24] <noclue> *am a noob*   <<<<
[06:24] <holycow> the same goes for say redhat versus ubuntu
[06:24] <wastrel> what's beagle again?  desktop search?
[06:24] <holycow> noclue, thats no problem at all
[06:24] <holycow> wastrel, correct
[06:24] <noclue> ubuntu 6.06lts <<<<
[06:25] <holycow> reverseblade, few minutes
[06:25] <holycow> at most
[06:25] <reverseblade> noclue, if you are noob then go and read HELP on your tool bar
[06:25] <reverseblade> there is a question mark
[06:25] <noclue> reverseblade tried that it's like goble di gook
[06:25] <holycow> noclue, basically two things are required to learn linux ... or anything for that matter
[06:25] <holycow> 1. love of learning
[06:25] <mordof> hehe, there's only 1 woman out of all the guys in the wine dev team.. i find that funny
[06:25] <holycow> 2. patience to put enough work in to get the hang of it
[06:25] <reverseblade> 2. insane patience
[06:25] <holycow> :) and welcome
[06:26] <diocles> 3. Google!
[06:26] <holycow> mordof, thats actually a very high percentage
[06:26] <holycow> oh yes #3 is very important :)
[06:26] <holycow> lol
[06:26] <holycow> diocles, nice :)
[06:26] <bobbie__4> that's three things
[06:26] <diocles> Noone expects the spanish inquisition!
[06:26] <reverseblade> holycow, what happens is , when I leave my computer idle, and come back 8h later, I see beagle is using a lot of CPU. Is this normal, if not , is there fix else than removing beagle ?
[06:26] <bobbie__4> you beat me to it
[06:26] <noclue> holycow i have # 1 and am running low on #2
[06:26] <Madpilot> diocles, unless they've Googled for them :)
[06:26] <wastrel> hm.  is there a way to pull an entire text file into the X clipboard, from the command line?
[06:27] <diocles> Madpilot: Heh.
[06:27] <holycow> reverseblade, probably sec
[06:27] <Vigor> 5 make a backup, but that's any electronic data machine.
[06:27] <noclue> 6am i will have to pack in soon trying with this for last 6 hours lol
[06:27] <Takmadeus> I need help with privoxy + tor
[06:27] <Takmadeus> since I configged tor, it does not want to connect via http
[06:28] <holycow> reverseblade, okay typically in situations like this, you need to first try remove the local config files for the app so .beagle might be what you want to try first
[06:28] <holycow> then restart beagle
[06:28] <noclue> holycow what do i do to install .tar.gz file then??
[06:28] <J-_> is https enabled when a ubuntu lamp server is installed?
[06:28] <holycow> if that doesn't work remove --purge beagle out of the system and reinstall it to try it
[06:28] <Takmadeus> privoxy alone works fine, when I changed the config to use tor, firefox stopped opening websites
[06:28] <holycow> noclue, you don't, thats not a packaged file
[06:28] <reverseblade> holycow, I 've done that, and the pain is eased for say 1 week, but the issue re-occurred again. What this has to do with the config files anyway ?
[06:28] <holycow> noclue, either a tar.gz contains source code that you haveto compile THEN package to install
[06:29] <pwner> hello ubuntu community...i ws having some help trying to get twinview working...is there someone who can help me a little bit ?
[06:29] <nomin> is there a way to delete everything before a specific location in a console-based text editor?
[06:29] <noclue> holycow oh ok then there was no option to download a packaged file so i have no idea what to do now
[06:29] <holycow> noclue, or it comes with a binary executable, for which you need to make sure you have the dependencies installed before you can just double click on it and run it
[06:29] <ChrisNiemy> hi! have a question about the propietary graphics drivers which are going to be included in feisty fawn, as it seems. Will it still be legal to copy and share the feisty-CDs then? Somebody got reliable information about this?
[06:29] <holycow> noclue, another example of tar.gz is mozilla firefox
[06:29] <noclue> holcow oh no we are getting complicated again *lol*
[06:29] <holycow> you can download that from their website, extract to a folder on desktop, and just double click and run it  because it contains all the binary packages
[06:30] <holycow> noclue, *nod* one of the key mysteries of linux to windows users is that
[06:30] <holycow> windows users ASSUME all software is packaged
[06:30] <britt> holycow: agreed.
[06:30] <holycow> well it is on windows, but windows has an INSANE packaging system, shit just gets stored everywhere
[06:30] <britt> i love linux's ability to be completely customizeable
[06:30] <noclue> holycow so if i extract it to the desktop i should be able to double click it?? and xp is getting pushed out of my head slowly *lol
[06:30] <pwner> can anyone help me in setting up twinView on nvidia card in 6.10 ???? any help appreciated very much
[06:30] <holycow> on linux we have a lot of sane package manager systems,  but not many people bother to package apps, although its not hard
[06:31] <dope> what's the best linux media player
[06:31] <dope> specifically for mp3s
[06:31] <holycow> noclue, ONLY IF the programmer designed it to be run like that
[06:31] <reverseblade> dope, prolly amarok
[06:31] <holycow> firefox is designed to be run like that if you want it to
[06:31] <holycow> other apps not necessarily
[06:31] <noclue> holycow ok then lets hope they did *lol*
[06:31] <holycow> *nod*
[06:31] <holycow> :)
[06:31] <dope> so amarok is the best
[06:32] <holycow> noclue, i hope that makes sense as to WHY this stuff the way it is
[06:32] <bfarr> hello all
[06:32] <dope> i'm using gnome though
[06:32] <holycow> once you know WHY working with it become easier
[06:32] <dope> this says amarok is for KDE
[06:32] <reverseblade> true
[06:32] <J-_> is https enabled when a ubuntu lamp server is installed?
[06:32] <bur[n] er> amarok is for kde but it works fine in gnome :)
[06:32] <noclue> holycow it's not like firefox so how do i package something??
[06:32] <dope> oh
[06:32] <bur[n] er> J-_: get the apache -ssl packages
[06:32] <reverseblade> dope, you can try, totem, exile, banshee as well
[06:32] <noclue> *just getting large mug of coffee*
[06:32] <pwner> install all of the "kde" dependencies, and then you can install kde apps
[06:32] <bfarr> i have a question concerning ntfs is anyone thinks they might be able to take a crack at it
[06:32] <bur[n] er> dope: also check out "listen" or "exaile" thought they're not as mature as amarok
[06:32] <dope> i just want the best!
[06:33] <holycow> noclue, that requires a bit of learning, and finding out what dependencie the application needs first
[06:33] <holycow> noclue, i'm not sure i can point you to any usefull direction for that
[06:33] <holycow> !package
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <holycow> !deb
[06:33] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[06:33] <bur[n] er> amarok is the best in my opinion
[06:33] <J-_> bur[n] er: which packages would they be?
[06:33] <holycow> noclue, there is a great indepth package creation tutorial on debian.org
[06:33] <holycow> which is the same here
[06:33] <holycow> but i don't know if there is a shorter easier to understand version
[06:34] <holycow> in any case what are you trying to do?
[06:34] <noclue> holycow i will have to learn this stuff because i like ubuntu alot *think it's better than xp* when things work
[06:34] <MikeyMike> ok
[06:34] <jsestri2> I can see a SMB share via going through the Nautilus connection, but I can't manage to mount an smbfs share, it just keeps saying it could not resolve...any ideas besides the tutorial in the wiki? (I am doing this through a VPN if it matters)
[06:34] <crimsun> holycow: it's called the Packaging Guide.  http://help.ubuntu.com
[06:34] <holycow> noclue, its absolutely amazing when you start to understand why
[06:34] <MikeyMike> 	libSDL-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 (0xb7f3c000)
[06:34] <MikeyMike> 	libSDL_net-1.2.so.0 => not found
[06:34] <MikeyMike> oops
[06:34] <MikeyMike> ok the second one
[06:34] <holycow> noclue, actually learning linux/debian/ubuntu will help you understand windows
[06:35] <holycow> when you go back to windows you will go 'oh now i get what those bozos are doing'
[06:35] <holycow> then you will say 'wtf are they doing it backwards'
[06:35] <holycow> :)
[06:35] <holycow> in that order
[06:35] <holycow> hehe
[06:35] <MikeyMike> what package would i have to download to get this installed (dapper)  libSDL_net-1.2.so.
[06:35] <holycow> noclue, what crimsun said
[06:35] <holycow> danke
[06:35] <bur[n] er> J-_: looks to me like it doesn't work with apache 2 :\  "apt-cache search apache ssl |grep ssl"
[06:35] <crimsun> !find libSDL_net-1.2.so
[06:35] <pwner> anyone with twinview setup that can help me get it working?? i have an nvidia 7600 agp pci card with a dvi and "crt' (analog) monitor, at two different resolutions.  can someone help me setup my xorg.conf so i can get twinview to actually work? i have the nvidia drivers installed ...any help is highly appreciated, thanks
[06:35] <ubotu> Package/file libsdl_net-1.2.so does not exist in edgy
[06:35] <reverseblade> MikeyMike, apt-cache search libSDL
[06:35] <MikeyMike> reverseblade, thank you
[06:35] <MikeyMike> what about
[06:36] <Vigor> holycow: That is a truth that people are learning fast. vive le France!
[06:36] <reverseblade> MikeyMike, probably you need libSDL it self and libSDL-dev
[06:36] <crimsun> MikeyMike: libsdl-net1.2-dev
[06:36] <noclue> holycow i have been using xp since release and this appears to be diffucult but i guess that is because of the dummies guid to computing from the guys at microsoft *in the head* lol
[06:36] <jsestri2> MikeyMike: looks like it comes from the SDL library... you might try searching packages for sdl
[06:36] <grndslm> anybody here recorded this desktop with flash or mpeg before??
[06:36] <MikeyMike> libopenal.so.0 => not found libalut.so.0 => not found
[06:36] <MikeyMike> what about those 2
[06:36] <tang^> are there any tricks to getting Evolution to actually select a maildir directory?
[06:36] <CientificoLoco> I installed it (using autopackage) aMSN din't launch. I tried to run it by console and it gives me this error 'Floating point exception'.
[06:36] <crimsun> MikeyMike: use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[06:36] <holycow> noclue, actually no
[06:36] <CientificoLoco> what do i have to do[?
[06:36] <MikeyMike> crimsun, ah thank you
[06:36] <holycow> noclue, its VERY VERY easy to learn linux if you have NEVER used another os
[06:36] <reverseblade> MikeyMike, apt-cache search openal
[06:36] <noclue> holycow how come i am finding this soo difficult??
[06:36] <holycow> noclue, it is quite a lot of work to learn another os if you have laready used one for 15 years
[06:36] <MikeyMike> okay
[06:36] <holycow> because of the last point
[06:37] <holycow> its weird but true
[06:37] <Vigor> Its the Unlearning that gets us , well most in trouble spots
[06:37] <jsestri2> MikeyMike: libsdl-net1.2 - network library for Simple DirectMedia Layer
[06:37] <bur[n] er> jsestri2: try fuse?
[06:37] <holycow> what Vigor said
[06:37] <noclue> holycow how long did it take you to learn linux?
[06:37] <MikeyMike> ah okay
[06:37] <MikeyMike> thank you
[06:37] <reverseblade> MikeyMike, if you are trying to compile a prorgam what you need is XXX-dev packages, don't forget
[06:37] <MikeyMike> right
[06:37] <MikeyMike> i know this
[06:37] <MikeyMike> what happened is.....
[06:37] <reverseblade> MikeyMike, which game ?
[06:37] <MikeyMike> i am installing scorced 3d..... and its missing those i found by typing ldd /usr/bin/scorched3d
[06:37] <MikeyMike> and grepping the output for 'not'
[06:38] <jsestri2> bur[n] er: how would that help me?
[06:38] <noclue> holycow is there any in depth simple terms teching sites for ubuntu??
[06:38] <holycow> noclue, well yes, google is actually it really
[06:38] <edbe> diocles, what kind of 'module-assistant'?
[06:38] <holycow> its as shollow and simple as you want or as deep as you want
[06:38] <bur[n] er> jsestri2: fuse can mount samba shares... might work better than smbmount
[06:38] <Gothfunc> holycow, fixed it by going into recovery mode and setting the key etc. so it's all good
[06:38] <holycow> noclue, no one has sat down and written the handholding intermediate stages because that is really really hard
[06:39] <Vigor> There is a very nifty Wiki, and the Forums are allways good.
[06:39] <riotkittie> doesnt depth negate simplicity?
[06:39] <reverseblade> holycow, newbie question: how do I use my mouse ?
[06:39] <holycow> its hard because a) the software always changes every few months and b) every user learns differently
[06:39] <crimsun> MikeyMike: instead of ``apt-get install scorched3d''?
[06:39] <holycow> reverseblade, lol :)
[06:39] <bfarr> anyone have any idea what could cause an ntfs partition to be horribly corrupted while reading it in linux?
[06:39] <holycow> Gothfunc, your kidding?
[06:39] <diocles> edbe: It's a tool for packaging kernel modules. When it works.
[06:39] <holycow> Gothfunc, wow neat, nice work :) i'll try to remember that
[06:39] <MikeyMike> crimsun that installed version 39.
[06:39] <narg> hrm, anyone know what the adjective form of species is?
[06:39] <MikeyMike> i got version 40.1
[06:40] <noclue> holycow do you know how to integrate a second hard drive into a ubuntu system?
[06:40] <crimsun> MikeyMike: ah
[06:40] <J-_> bur[n] er: should i install all the 'ssl' packages listed for apache?
[06:40] <holycow> noclue, yes, plug it in :)
[06:40] <MikeyMike> i'll be right back
[06:40] <noclue> holycow i have one installed and i cant seem to do anything with it
[06:40] <bur[n] er> J-_: i would just get apache-ssl  (note that this is apache 1 instead of apache 2)
[06:40] <noclue> :P i already did that lol
[06:40] <holycow> noclue,  you may haveto add informatio nabout it in /etc/fstab
[06:40] <holycow> !fstab
[06:40] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[06:40] <jsestri2> bur[n] er: do you have any hints as to where to start using it?
[06:40] <holycow> noclue, however it should be autodetected
[06:40] <edbe> diocles, I'm now reinstalling ekiga ... hoping this time it's gonna see videodev
[06:41] <holycow> is ti formatted at all? if no use something to format to the right fs type
[06:41] <diocles> edbe: Well, either the driver works or it doesn't.
[06:41] <Vigor> noclue: a list of good info is at http://www.kernel.org/
[06:41] <noclue> thevenin isn't the best way to learn to be coached by others??
[06:41] <diocles> edbe: Reinstalling Ekiga is unlikely to help.
[06:41] <thevenin> not really no
[06:41] <holycow> i think it is, but its good for the learner not for the teacher
[06:41] <holycow> :)
[06:41] <thevenin> i get coached alot, but still gain nothing, but thats just me
[06:42] <diocles> edbe: If it's any consolation, I've studied the driver in the past, and it was badly written. ;) I wonder if it's improved...
[06:42] <holycow> thevenin, lol :)
[06:42] <noclue> holycow i figured out the format system on my own and it is partitioned with the ext2 but i don't know if this is right or not
[06:42] <thevenin> hehe :)
[06:42] <wastrel> ext2 is good
[06:42] <riotkittie> i wish i had more than 12gb of hd space :'(
[06:42] <holycow> noclue, i'm going to only point you to the fstab link above, you will haveto look up the rest your self unfortunately
[06:42] <orko> just did a dapper install and perl is complaining about locale: perl: warning: Setting locale failed perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings etc etc. anyone had this?
[06:43] <holycow> noclue, it actually very easy to be honest
[06:43] <noclue> thevenin i have had virtualy no help and i do have most of it running well
[06:43] <holycow> noclue, you need to know about fstab
[06:43] <ChrisNiemy> hi! anyone got an idea, about if feisty will include propietary binary graphic drivers... are these CDs still legal to copy and share? I'm pretty sure, they will be, just a little concerned and wondering if someone has know-how about this issue. Thanks for answers
[06:43] <edbe> diocles, Alan Cox wrote the videodev
[06:43] <J-_> bur[n] er: would i have to reinstall apache? does mysql 5.0, and php 4 (i think i have) work with apache 2?
[06:43] <holycow> you need to know sudo fdisk -l to tell you about partitions
[06:43] <holycow> and thats it
[06:43] <thevenin> well that is good
[06:43] <thevenin> learning linux does take time
[06:43] <reverseblade> ChrisNiemy, yes and yes
[06:43] <edbe> anyway, I've just reinstalled ekiga and it has a new GUI
[06:43] <grndslm> who here has recorded a desktop before?
[06:44] <holycow> ChrisNiemy, its doubtfull
[06:44] <jsestri2> anyone have any hints for mounting a smbfs share through a vpn?
[06:44] <holycow> gpl is very strict about what is allowed and what is not
[06:44] <Bill57785> anybody know what the name of the backup is for the xorg.conf file (it's hte one that handles graphical settings). I messed up something in the display settings, and now everytime I try to boot Ubuntu/Kubuntu, I get a scrambled screen (so I need to replace the file with it's backup in command line to try and fix the problem)
[06:44] <mister_roboto> noclue: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Add_a_new_hard_drive
[06:45] <jsestri2> Bill57785: it should be xorg.conf.something
[06:45] <reverseblade> ls /etc/X11/ , you should see them
[06:45] <wastrel> Bill57785:  if there is one it's probably floating around in /etc/X11/
[06:45] <bur[n] er> J-_: i honestly don't know... google or check the wiki :)
[06:45] <reverseblade> Bill57785, ls /etc/X11/ , you should see them
[06:45] <jsestri2> Bill57785: it should also be in the same folder /etc/X11
[06:45] <J-_> =\ not the answer i was looking for lol, thanks anyway dude
[06:45] <noclue> holycow i think i have the wrong partition looking at that! it's the same as the main system and states linux would i be correct in saying that?
[06:46] <Cas> grndslm: check out Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf or demorecorder
[06:46] <wastrel> i've been to istanbul
[06:46] <grndslm> Cas:  wow, thanks!
[06:46] <reverseblade> Cas, I live in Istanbul
[06:46] <ChrisNiemy> reverseblade: with permission from the manufactures? have you got a link perhaps? I'm wondering if the EULAs of nvidia and ati.
[06:47] <Cas> reverseblade, wastrel: lol :)
[06:47] <noclue> *going to bed* lol bye evryone specialy to Holycow thanks for the help and support appreciated
[06:47] <Bill57785> ok, here goes nothing (in windows right now, restarting into linux command line....hope this works ^_^)
[06:47] <noclue> :)
[06:48] <reverseblade> ChrisNiemy, I don't but the issue is manufacturers are not against the distribution of those drivers. In deed they will be happy. The concern about this issue that, now open source community will not be able to force the manufacturers to open their source code. This is why everyone worries
[06:48] <Phuzion> Is there a way to make Gnone not ask me if I want to edit or run a script every time I run it?
[06:48] <towsonu2003> I usually don't post the same message to all the chat rooms I'm in, but you've gotta see this: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Kurdish_operating_system_under_investigation_by_Turkish_attorney_general
[06:48] <towsonu2003> Kurdish operating system in that link is... Ubuntu.
[06:48] <riotkittie> :o
[06:49] <crimsun> nice spam in -devel.
[06:49] <reverseblade> towsonu2003, I am turkish
[06:49] <diocles> edbe: Not the videodev, the spca5xx driver.
[06:49] <towsonu2003> reverseblade, me too, and I'm not happy about it right now!
[06:50] <cew_musik> #nardi
[06:50] <foutrelis> I need your help with apache 2. I have everything install.. php mysql apache etc. I want to enable mod_rewrite but I cannot find the conf file to do that. Any advice?
[06:50] <towsonu2003> crimsun, it's gotta be related to the development somehow... ? :)
[06:50] <reverseblade> do not concern of politics, as of 21sth century, the only thing matters including the policy is 'Das Capital'
[06:51] <jsestri2> anyone have any hints for mounting a smbfs share through a vpn?
[06:51] <Phuzion> townsonu2003:  that article really has no explanation as to why there is an investigation into Kurdish Ubuntu
[06:52] <ChrisNiemy> reverseblade ah ok, i read somewhere, that e.g. nvidia's EULA is restricting this, but it would be quite insane, if they as a manufacturer would prevent spreading their drivers. I agree that it's somehting to worry about, how this step will influence the developement of the free drivers and also the manufacturers polcies about specs and their source code. I read this: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/84  . therefore my questions. thank
[06:52] <ChrisNiemy> you, seems now a bit clearer to me.
[06:52] <quintin> jsestri2: smbmount ?
[06:52] <AnthonyG> These martian drivers give open source a bad name :(
[06:53] <AnthonyG> These martian modem drivers give open source a bad name...
[06:53] <riotkittie> mmm, news lacking... news.
[06:53] <J-_> what ssl package(s) will work in my ubuntu lamp install; libapache-mod-ssl, libssl10.9.8, apache-ssl, libssl10.9.7?
[06:53] <Phuzion> townsunu2003 and others talking about the news article:  I'd like to remind you all of #ubuntu-offtopic.  Despite this article being related to Ubuntu, it's still technically on topic with this channel, so please take the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:54] <Phuzion> Is there a way to make Gnone not ask me if I want to edit or run a script every time I run it?
[06:54] <jsestri2> quintin: I keep trying different things, theres a thing in the wiki that says to put it in fstab....i'm looking at smbmount at the moment
[06:54] <AnthonyG> The GNOME I am running does no such thing :)
[06:54] <AnthonyG> It simply runs them
[06:54] <reverseblade> ChrisNiemy, practically no. Some people undestand openness, in a different manner as if everything has to be opensourced. Open source has its advantages, but also weaknesses. Since most of the people already installed those property drivers, this will matter a little in practice. And  nvidia will enjoy the situation. This move is made  to enhance the experience of noobies  for linux.
[06:54] <Cas> AnthonyG: neh, they give those closed source/documentation vendors a bad name.
[06:55] <AnthonyG> Cas: I distribute my source better than them , Therefore these particular developers==Bad.
[06:55] <AnthonyG> I attempted to compile the modem drivers at least six times , And got two errors.
[06:56] <AnthonyG> So now I'm forced to rollback until I get the right one.
[06:56] <defrysk> Phuzion, rightclick the file , > proterties , > open with , > and set it to your desired app
[06:56] <defrysk> properties*
[06:56] <AnthonyG> All this rebooting can't be good for my machine.
[06:56] <Phuzion> defrysk:  I want it to execute the script
[06:56] <defrysk> Phuzion, what script is it ?
[06:56] <Cas> AnthonyG: I see, compiling errors, or kernel errors?
[06:57] <Phuzion> defrysk:  Its a simple one line bash script to run a program in Wine
[06:57] <AnthonyG> Cas: Compilation errors fortunately :D
[06:57] <Vigor> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnomeMenuEditingHowTo
[06:57] <diocles> Phuzion: To set it for all text files, open Nautilus, Edit > Preferences > Behaviour
[06:57] <diocles> Phuzion: All /executable/ text files, that is.
[06:57] <Cas> AnthonyG: post them on pastebin, maybe somebody can give a solution
[06:58] <Vigor> http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-menu-editor/
[06:58] <AnthonyG> Cas: I know what the error is , but I'm not willing to fix it.
[06:58] <AnthonyG> Cas: Syntax error , Plain and simple.
[06:58] <Cas> hmmz
[06:59] <Cas> AnthonyG: you could buy another modem :P
[06:59] <asabil> hello all
[06:59] <asabil> anyone knows about some cool backup tools
[06:59] <AnthonyG> Cas: Lol , How about you buy me one, Then I shall give in :).
[06:59] <wastrel> !backup | asabil
[06:59] <ubotu> asabil: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !cloning
[06:59] <asabil> that enables me to burn files into as many dvds as required ?
[07:00] <diocles> edbe: I'm giving up! I don't want a webcam that much. It would be easier if I were using Edgy, where the driver might compile against the kernel headers.
[07:00] <Cas> AnthonyG:  Neh, I rather wait and hope you fix the problem in the source, that way everybody wins ;)
[07:01] <AnthonyG> Alright , n^190 attempt.
[07:01] <AnthonyG> exit
[07:01] <AnthonyG> :|
[07:01] <TomChire> !top
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about top - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <umista> whts the dif between berry and xgl?
[07:02] <asabil> hmmmm
[07:02] <asabil> wastrel, those are not what I am looking for :/
[07:02] <asabil> I have a lot of pictures
[07:02] <wastrel> asabil:  i didn't let you finish :]
[07:02] <asabil> and I want to burn them into as many dvds as required
[07:03] <abes> How can I copy the whole directory with it's contents (/home/abes) to a remote directory (backup) in FTP? put/sends is used for single files - what is used for the whole directories? Thanks :)
[07:03] <diocles> abes: tar up the directory first. ;)
[07:04] <ChrisNiemy> reverseblade: agree, for ubuntu as a userfriendly distro this is a nice feature. and if ubuntu-ISOs are still going to be copy and shareable and one could modify them, then you're by saying that in practice this decision would not change very much. i think i got it.
[07:04] <abes> diocles: lol... im so stupid havent thought of that :P
[07:04] <abes> diocles: what would be the tar command to make it an archive?
[07:04] <asabil> abes, use lftp ?
[07:05] <jair> guys, it is anything wrong with enable "root" on my Dapper drake?
[07:05] <asabil> abes, and use mput instead of put
[07:05] <umista> how can i make all mp3 and video files play under mplayer?
[07:05] <asabil> jair, you don't need root user, I am sure of it
[07:05] <jair> I normally do everything with sudo -i
[07:05] <diocles> abes: http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/conspire/2004-November/000718.html
[07:05] <Cas> umista: XGL is a hacked version of Xorg, and Beryl is a fork of compiz. try browsing wikipedia or searching google what those four are exactly
[07:06] <diocles> abes: tar would probably take slightly longer.
[07:06] <Cas> !codecs > umista
[07:06] <abes> diocles: is lftp built in ubuntu?
[07:06] <diocles> abes: No idea.
[07:06] <jair> asabil: the thing is that I was trying to update for first time a web page I am hosting on apache and when I log in as "user" I can not make changes or update through the ftp gui of dreamweaver.
[07:06] <diocles> abes: I appear to have it.
[07:07] <crimsun> abes: it's a reverse dependency of the desktops, yes.
[07:07] <asabil> jair, if it is a website, I am sure you will fall in love with the mirror feature of lftp
[07:07] <jair> asabil: I know I can chnage the ownership, or the permissions but I want to keep all that good even the directory were it is now "/var/www/"
[07:07] <jair> lftp?
[07:07] <asabil> yep its an ftp client
[07:08] <black_13> how do install xorg?
[07:08] <jair> asabil: I never heard of lftp though
[07:08] <black_13> rather what is the pseudo package?
[07:08] <asabil> give it a try then
[07:08] <jair> I use normally konkeror or naitilus
[07:08] <jair> I will check it
[07:08] <crimsun> abes: for i in $(apt-cache rdepends lftp |grep desktop); do apt-cache show $i |grep ^Dep |grep lftp 2>&1 >/dev/null ; echo $?; done
[07:08] <Cas> black_13: xorg is installed by default unless you use the server version
[07:09] <asabil> black_13, xserver-xorg ?
[07:09] <asabil> jair, euuuu, it's not graphical
[07:09] <black_13> Cas i intalled server
[07:09] <umista> ok i have mplayer installed but where do i set the file asscotion for all media files is there a script i can use?
[07:09] <asabil> but I am sure you'll like it jair
[07:09] <Cas> black_13: you can also install (k|x)ubuntu-desktop
[07:10] <Vigor> Xorg: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068
[07:10] <hentai_jeff> does anyone know if I can safely uninstall the ubuntu-desktop package and still use gnome?
[07:11] <holycow> yes
[07:11] <ArrenLex> hen.... ..nice name. _jeff: yes. It's only a metapackage.
[07:11] <hentai_jeff> I'd like to uninstall some of the useless software tied to the package but not at the cost of gnome
[07:11] <holycow> thats just an empty metapackage that pulls everything else in
[07:11] <hentai_jeff> k thanks
[07:11] <hentai_jeff> and Arren:it's another meaning
[07:11] <hentai_jeff> a technical meaning actually
[07:12] <ArrenLex> Righto.
[07:12] <hentai_jeff> but Henna_Jeff dosen't have the same ring
[07:12] <Cas> hentai_jeff: yes you can, you can get some warning about deprecated packages though but you can safely ignore them
[07:12] <Robokop> !pastebin
[07:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:13] <hentai_jeff> also is there a fix for Nforce4's ACPI coming up for Edgy?
[07:13] <jair> asabil: actually I like ti already, :) I like normally do stuff not graphical but the dreamweaver macromedia product support the sftp but is gui, and I can edit the pages and just click one botton and have the page updated an changes, but I will start using lftp for other file tranfers as needed.
[07:13] <jair> asabil: thank you though
[07:13] <hentai_jeff> I broke my system last time I upgraded thanks to that
[07:13] <asabil> you are welcome :)
[07:14] <slid3r> anyone know how I would totaly disable iptables
[07:14] <hentai_jeff> thanks holycow, Arren, and Cas BTW
[07:14] <slid3r> to make sure its not that that is causing slow file transfers tween local machines?
[07:15] <Robokop> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34701/ this it the error i get whenever i try to run wine for the 2nd and up time since the last reboot
[07:16] <i3d> slid3r: you can do iptables -F; iptables -X; iptables -Z
[07:19] <optraz> hello, is there a way to check whether which of my hdd attach to which serial ata cable ?
[07:20] <hentai_jeff> optraz:trial and error :P
[07:20] <optraz> how?
[07:21] <hentai_jeff> selectively unplug them and then boot up
[07:21] <Vigor> optraz: That info should be displayed in BIOS
[07:21] <optraz> mmmm
[07:21] <hentai_jeff> that too
[07:21] <optraz> i cant reboot just yet
[07:21] <optraz> :(
[07:21] <optraz> in porduction
[07:22] <Vigor> That's what I do jeff, I pull power out of one, boot, look, power off, switch,boot,look,,its fun
[07:22] <i3d> optraz: might give lshw a try
[07:25] <DevC> is there a way to change the network name for ubuntu after you name it? I named mine simply ubuntu but I need to change it to homenet
[07:25] <Robokop> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34701/ this it the error i get whenever i try to run wine for the 2nd and up time since the last reboot
[07:25] <hentai_jeff> Dev:I've been wondering that myself
[07:26] <Vigor> Any one have the best How To Uninstall WinXP off of a HDD, this one has 3 days left till the factory installed garbage runs out.
[07:26] <cafuego_> Vigor: back up your files, delete the windows partition
[07:27] <DevC> factory installed garbage lol wouldn't that be Xp itself :)) that is why I stick with on OS per PC (XP on laptop) (ubuntu on desktop)
[07:29] <Vigor> Dont I need to unistall the HAL.DLL first? I did this a few times on other boxes, but have not tried since last SP.
[07:29] <Pie-rate> factory installed garbage sucks, the factory WinXP MCE on my lappy was corrupted and kept bluescreening
[07:29] <darkangel_> hi everyone!1
[07:29] <darkangel_> I need help installing mplayer
[07:29] <holycow> Vigor, what is a service pack?
[07:29] <darkangel_> somebody could help me please
[07:29] <holycow> oh its a win question :)
[07:29] <Vigor> SP2,SP3 and some Norton junk,,ughh
[07:30] <carlos> hello
[07:30] <defrysk> !mplayer | darkangel_
[07:30] <ubotu> darkangel_: mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[07:30] <ubotu> darkangel_: For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[07:30] <darkangel_> I did it
[07:30] <darkangel_> but when I type make
[07:30] <darkangel_> an error appears
[07:31] <carlos> hello
[07:31] <defrysk> darkangel_, sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer and then try again
[07:31] <carlos> Good, I have east problem when installing driver of Nvidia in Ubuntu, somebody podria to give me but except one it helps.
[07:31] <levander> In the middle of my dist-upgrade to edgy, update-manager quit because it could not install x11-common.  It looks like this was because I had the xtoolwait package installed.  But, when I try to remove the xtoolwait package, it won't let me because of unmet dependencies (probably because the dist-upgrade failed).  Anybody have an idea how I can remove xtoolwait?
[07:31] <carlos> no matching precompiled kernel interface was found on the nvidia ftp site; this means that the installer will need to compile a kernel interface for your kernel
[07:31] <darkangel_> hold on I'll do it
[07:32] <neverm1nd> hey
[07:32] <DevC> Vigor: yeah I use only freeware stuff on my XP box because they do way better than that of the commercial stuff...I got avast! and then deleted Norton (plus I have a router for safeguards) so I'm set
[07:32] <neverm1nd> how can I compile alltray on my AMD64?
[07:32] <Cas> levander: try to install those dependencies and remove it afterwards
[07:32] <darkangel_> It doesn't works defrysk
[07:32] <woodsb02> hey guys. I am using fail2ban to stop ssh brute force attacks. I have it mail me whenever it blocks someone. the email currently has an error in it. It begins with "-en Hi,"... but the -en is meant to be an option for echo... does anyone else have this bug? Btw, I am running fail2ban in fiesty
[07:32] <optraz> i3d, thanks
[07:33] <neverm1nd> how can I compile alltray on my AMD64?
[07:33] <crimsun> levander: what about ``sudo dpkg -P xtoolwait'' ?
[07:33] <defrysk> darkangel_, what does not work ?
[07:33] <i3d> optraz: np
[07:33] <crimsun> levander: I'm guessing x11-common is blocked on things existing in /usr/X11R6/bin
[07:33] <darkangel_> sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer
[07:33] <levander> crimsun: exactly
[07:33] <Vigor> I have win2kPro on 2nd HDD, beats XP to shame, I am gonna trash the XP and do a 80g Ubuntu on it.
[07:33] <levander> crimsun: I already removed /usr/X11R6/bin/xtoolwait
[07:34] <defrysk> darkangel_, do you have your repos setup properly ?
[07:34] <neverm1nd> how can I compile alltray on my AMD64?
[07:34] <darkangel_> I think so
[07:34] <DevC> I wouldn't think that you would have to do anything special for compiling it on a AMD64 as opposed to something else....
[07:34] <crimsun> levander: dpkg uses a file list, not what currently exists in the file system.
[07:34] <DevC> Vigor: yeah I have a 60 gig ubuntu on my desktop
[07:34] <levander> crimsun: But, I'm getting other errors indicating I just need to get rid of the xtoolwait package.  If I could just get apt-get to ignore the unmet dependencies, and just remove xtoolwait...
[07:34] <defrysk> darkangel_, better pastebin it anyway
[07:34] <crimsun> levander: you must remove the package by using the command I gave above
[07:34] <neverm1nd> devC: could you help me compile alltray?
[07:35] <carlos> :(
[07:35] <levander> crimsun: I thought dpkg only operated on deb files?  It will remove packages install on my system also?
[07:35] <DevC> question: how do I change my network name under ubuntu....I left the default as ubuntu and need to change it to homenet
[07:35] <noiesmo> levander, you could try sudo apt-get -f install it should then remove or try resolve
[07:35] <darkangel_> defrysk let me explain, but my english is not so gut, when I type make
[07:35] <levander> noiesmo: thanks, but tried it, didn't work
[07:35] <DevC> neverm1nd: is there any online docs that say how to compile alltray?
[07:35] <crimsun> levander: dpkg only operates on .debs, correct, but its file tracking is not live fs-based but rather on file lists
[07:35] <defrysk> darkangel_, whats your home language ?
[07:35] <i3d> DevC: /etc/hostname
[07:36] <darkangel_> the terminal tell me that a "separation" is need it
[07:36] <i3d> DevC: and command hostname
[07:36] <darkangel_> spanish but un spanish chanell nobody answer
[07:36] <Vigor> Did you read about the French today on ZDNET/Slasdot or anyplace?
[07:36] <noiesmo> sudo apt-get install --fix-missing levander
[07:36] <crimsun> levander: note /var/lib/dpkg/*.list
[07:36] <DevC> i3d: oh ok thanks
[07:36] <defrysk> darkangel_, why not install the package from ubuntu ?
[07:36] <i3d> DevC: np
[07:37] <crimsun> levander: sorry, /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list
[07:37] <darkangel_> I tried it, but I had some library problems
[07:37] <levander> crimsun: do i need to feed that directory to dpkg on the command line, or just "dpkg -r xtoolwait"?
[07:37] <darkangel_> and I found a guide
[07:37] <neverm1nd> DevC: all manuals included in alltray-0.69.tar.gz
[07:37] <crimsun> levander: sudo dpkg -P xtoolwait
[07:37] <defrysk> darkangel_, better pastebin your sources.list
[07:37] <Robokop> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34701/ this it the error i get whenever i try to run wine for the 2nd and up time since the last reboot
[07:37] <levander> crimsun: okay, i'll purge, no configs I'm worried about with that one
[07:38] <neverm1nd> but when I'm trying to compile some errors appears
[07:38] <Azmodan> I just installed Apache2 and PHP5 on Edgy but Apache won't parse php files it will just offer me to download them.  Can someone help me fix that?
[07:38] <wastrel> Azmodan:  did you follow the lamp howto?
[07:38] <defrysk> darkangel_, a guide ?
[07:38] <defrysk> like?
[07:38] <bense> what do you guys use for DVD playback
[07:38] <darkangel_> yeah do you want the adress?
[07:38] <bense> xine and mplayer never work
[07:38] <Azmodan> wastrel: yup
[07:38] <darkangel_> but is in spanish
[07:38] <defrysk> darkangel_, did you follow any instruction ubotu gave you ?
[07:39] <Robokop> bense: vnc
[07:39] <defrysk> if not you'd better darkangel_
[07:39] <mzli> !uboto
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uboto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <levander> crimsun: thanks, with that dpkg command, i've already gotten further than i was before "apt-get install -f" just finished sucessfully
[07:39] <bense> vlc eh?
[07:39] <mzli> !ubotu
[07:39] <noiesmo> Azmodan, pretty sure you may need to uncomment mod_php in apache conf and also add index.php to line with index.html in apache conf also
[07:39] <floating> how do I run linuxDC++ from command line ?
[07:39] <darkangel_> ok let me check it
[07:39] <Robokop> bense: yes
[07:40] <Azmodan> noiesmo: I'm going to check it out.
[07:40] <defrysk> !mplayer > darkangel_
[07:40] <DevC> neverm1nd:  can you paste the errors to a pastebin for me to see
[07:40] <neverm1nd> ok
[07:40] <floating> !linuxdcpp
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linuxdcpp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <defrysk> darkangel_, you received a private message from ubotu
[07:40] <floating> !linuxdc++
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linuxdc++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <darkangel_> yes
[07:40] <darkangel_> i did
[07:40] <Azmodan> noiesmo: Hum...  It explains stuff, there is no mod_php to uncomment in the file.
[07:41] <defrysk> read it properly and follow instructions
[07:41] <levander> crimsun: great, i'm back to where update-manager is saying "installing the updates" now
[07:41] <i3d> Azmodan: make sure libapache2-mod-php5 installed, and php5.conf and php5.load is enabled
[07:41] <noiesmo> Azmodan, then you may need to add it i believe
[07:41] <pwner> anyone in here running twinview and can help me get mine going? id really love the help thanks
[07:41] <Vigor>  Robokop: I dont know anything about WINE or whatnot, but that post looks like a sys config error, somewhere in the install route maybe?
[07:41] <levander> crimsun: should I file a bug in launchpad?  I've already lost the exact error message the update-manager gave me before it quit originally.
[07:41] <darkangel_> but I dont know what I have to do
[07:41] <levander> pwner: you've looked at the nvidia driver README
[07:41] <defrysk> !repos | darkangel_
[07:41] <ubotu> darkangel_: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:42] <levander> pwner: ?
[07:42] <Azmodan> i3d: libapache2-mod-php5 is already installed according to apt-get
[07:42] <defrysk> darkangel_, read that and follow links
[07:42] <Azmodan> noiesmo: Can I add it anywhere?
[07:42] <i3d> Azmodan: check mods-enable and make sure they are there
[07:42] <floating> what is a gksudo ?
[07:42] <noiesmo> Azmodan, I 'm still running apache 1.3 but i think theirs a file in /etc/apache2/ for modules etc
[07:43] <defrysk> darkangel_, when you have the repos set up you can continue
[07:43] <crimsun> levander: I already fixed it. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xtoolwait/+bug/51160
[07:43] <levander> floating: it's like sudo for when you need to open a GUI window
[07:43] <defrysk> darkangel_, so fix that first
[07:43] <floating> ah ok
[07:43] <i3d> noiesmo: the config is different now under apache2 under debian
[07:43] <noiesmo> Azmodan, look in filesin /etc/apahe2 they split up the old style http.conf file in to several
[07:43] <i3d> noiesmo: right
[07:43] <i3d> they are under mods-availabe
[07:43] <levander> crimsun: great, thanks ;)
[07:43] <Azmodan> noiesmo: Several directories, I see...
[07:44] <mnepton> Azmodan: did you install the MySQL module for your release of PHP
[07:44] <floating> I have a problem running my linuxdc++. I installed it as in ubuntu edgy guide, but on xubuntu, so the shortcut at applications-internet is not there, so I want to run this app from command line but I am so far unsuccesful
[07:44] <levander> crimsun: yeah, reading that bug report, i can see how that is the problem i had
[07:44] <i3d> Azmodan: you need to manually link them if they are not there
[07:44] <noiesmo> i3d, yes apache2 they split it i personnaly don' like it but its suppose to make it easier
[07:44] <i3d> noiesmo: it makes the main apache2.conf cleaner
[07:44] <noiesmo> i3d, well thats what they all say :)
[07:45] <i3d> noiesmo: vitural host configs are splited out too.
[07:45] <noiesmo> i3d, think it all is
[07:45] <Azmodan> Grrrr... Konversation crashed on me...
[07:45] <i3d> they all act as modules now
[07:45] <mnepton> Azmodan: bienvenue encore
[07:45] <treedreamer> hello,everyone
[07:45] <Azmodan> Merci
[07:45] <darkangel_> ok
[07:45] <mnepton> de rien :)
[07:45] <darkangel_> thanks
[07:46] <levander> crimsun: that bug, it says it affects "Ubuntu Dapper" which I assume is the Dapper release, and that it affects "Ubuntu".  When a specific release isn't mentioned, does that just mean the current release, Edgy?
[07:46] <Azmodan> So, I have those two directories, do I link from available to enabled?
[07:46] <darkangel_> I think I'll do it tomorrow 'cause It's late I gotta go to sleep :(
[07:46] <bense> vlc will not play this dvd
[07:46] <bense> nothing will
[07:46] <mnepton> Azmodan: did you install the MySQL module for your release of PHP?
[07:46] <bense> sheeze
[07:46] <darkangel_> thanks
[07:46] <i3d> Azmodan: yes
[07:46] <bense> i rented it from blockbuster, no scratches
[07:46] <crimsun> levander: the current _development_ branch, which is Feisty
[07:46] <LineOf7s> Is there a straightforward way (a guide somewhere, if need be) to limit a particular user's ability to run stuff to only a handful of applications, password-protecting the rest?  A 'white-list', if you will?
[07:46] <Azmodan> mnepton:  I installed version 5 (client and server)
[07:47] <neverm1nd> DevC: did you watched my pastebins?
[07:47] <mnepton> Azmodan: sudo aptitude intstall php5-mysql
[07:47] <mnepton> *install
[07:47] <mnepton> gah.
[07:47] <i3d> Azmodan: if you take a look the apache2.conf file you will see the Include directives
[07:47] <levander> crimsun: It affects dapper and feisty, but not edgy?  Seems strange.
[07:47] <mnepton> Azmodan: PHP will not talk to MySQL until that PHP module is installed.
[07:47] <crimsun> levander: the bug report just needs to be tidied.
[07:48] <floating> how to uninstall linuxdc++? the installation was pure untar of contents to /opt , also files are at /usr/share at least
[07:48] <levander> crimsun: cool, as long as it was fixed... thanks crimsun
[07:48] <Azmodan> mnepton: It already was apparently...
[07:48] <Azmodan> i3d: I see it.
[07:48] <pwner> sorry leavander, i was trying to find the readme to make sure ive gone over it
[07:48] <Vigor> Line0f7s: Yes there is, it is in the Help/Users
[07:48] <i3d> Azmodan: once you've done, reload the config and you should good to go
[07:48] <mnepton> Azmodan: ah, ok. so then proceed with ensuring things are where they need to be, and conf files set up correctly.
[07:48] <LineOf7s> ty Vigor.  I was afraid you were going to say something like that.  :o)  I'll have another look.
[07:48] <DevC> neverm1nd: what is the url for the pastebin? so I can view it
[07:50] <neverm1nd> DevC: it's said that package 'gconf-2.0' not found, but I looked in my synaptic package manager it's installed :/
[07:51] <crimsun> !info libgconf2-dev
[07:51] <LineOf7s> Vigor:  You couldn't, say, point me a lil more specifically in the right direction, could you?  'Users' seems a lil open-ended in the help I'm looking at...
[07:51] <ubotu> libgconf2-dev: GNOME configuration database system (development). In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.0-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 257 kB, installed size 1328 kB
[07:51] <Vigor> Line0f7s: Srry, that is how I found out, yes there is a permissions and settings for each usr, in graphical interface
[07:52] <malt> i installed phpmyadmin with sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin and when i got to access it by http://localhost/phpmyadmin/ it don't work wonder why?
[07:52] <levander> pwner: Did you find the README?  I'm googling for it, but can't find it.
[07:52] <Azmodan> Ok...  Files both files linked, apache reloaded, same result...  What did I miss?
[07:52] <i3d> Azmodan: hmm.. that's weird
[07:53] <DevC> neverm1nd: I'm not sure then because if you have it and the compilation is pointing to it then ideally it should compile with no problem
[07:53] <LineOf7s> Vigor.  Hrmm, okay.  Thanks.  I'm familiar with the System -> Administration -> Users & Groups section, but I'm clearly missing something.  I'll keep looking.
[07:53] <pwner> me neither :p...checking out the wiki for lates howto nvidia drivers...make sure everything is right because imho it should
[07:53] <Azmodan> i3d: What should I check next?
[07:53] <i3d> Azmodan: you linked php5.conf and php5.load both?
[07:53] <Azmodan> yes, both
[07:54] <Vigor> Let me find it again,,,
[07:54] <Azmodan> My currently linked files are : "cgi.load  php5.conf  php5.load  userdir.conf  userdir.load"
[07:54] <oldsony> why not pack mplayer into ubuntu?
[07:54] <DevC> I know a pwner but he spends his time glitching on MGO so you aren't him
[07:54] <DevC> or I should say finding glitches
[07:55] <mnepton> oldsony: licensing
[07:55] <noiesmo> Azmodan, check this it's debian but hey thats what ubuntu's built on http://www.debuntu.org/2006/06/15/66-how-to-enable-apache-modules-under-debian-based-system
[07:55] <oldsony> got it, thanks
[07:55] <i3d> Azmodan: check the log then
[07:55] <LineOf7s> Vigor:  I know I could change the permissions of every file/folder I don't want them to touch - but I was hoping there was a 'group' already set up that had no permissions already (I guess).  Then I can just add the one or two apps I need.
[07:55] <oldsony> will do it myself
[07:55] <Azmodan> i3d: Where is the log?
[07:55] <i3d> Azmodan: cause that's all you need to do. there might have something else missing
[07:56] <i3d> Azmodan: /var/log/apache2
[07:56] <oldsony> is ubuntu hire anybody?
[07:56] <DevC> anyways....malt: depends on where sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin put the installation and whether it put it into your servers main folder from which you are loading your pages from
[07:56] <w00d> yawn
[07:56] <malt> DevC: my phpmyadmin is default
[07:56] <malt> where does it load default?
[07:57] <Vigor> Yes, log on as an Admin/SUDO then select System>Administration>Groups, from there you can allow,deny access of anything in Graphical Mode. Its an old win trick that I have used forever, NEVER log on as su or admin unless working on or backing up the system.
[07:57] <levander> pwner: my system is starting to act up because I'm doing a dist-upgrade.  So, I've got to shut everything down.    Have to choose Graphics Card -> Geforce and TNT -> Linux IA32 from some wizard.  That next page has a link to the README.  Last guy I told to read that, he said he was going to file a bug in launchpad that the README isn't installed on the
[07:57] <levander>  local system when you install it from an Ubuntu package.  Don't know if he did or not.
[07:57] <Azmodan> i3d: No other errors than not being able to figure the server name.
[07:58] <hentai_jeff> mmmh wade boggs goes down smooth
[07:58] <neverm1nd> DevC: I just made alltray to work ;)
[07:58] <pwner> thanks levander
[07:58] <LineOf7s> Vigor:  Okay, I'm there.  I see the tab that says "Allow user to..." and I've got all of those deselected.  But I want to limit them further.  What part of this section deals with that?
[07:58] <neverm1nd> great feeling :D
[07:58] <i3d> Azmodan: you can try tail -f the access.log and error.log and then click the php file and see if there is anything generated
[07:59] <keeganX> Does anyone know where I could find a guide on setting up gmpc and mpd?
[07:59] <DevC> apache2 only loads out of the specified directory in httpd.conf so the phpmyadmin has to be there in order for it to load with http://localhost/phpmyadmin....for example on my XP Apache loads my out of C:\www so I would have to put the phpmyadmin in C:\www
[07:59] <DevC> neverm1nd: yeah, I love that feeling especially when I finally find out why a game I'm programming suddenly won't compile :)
[08:00] <Azmodan> i3d: It just started to parse it...  Without even a restart since I last restarted it.  Weird...
[08:00] <Vigor> Line0f7s: That would be in the Terminal/Konsole, if averything is unmarked there, /usr/home is almost unusable in and of itself.
[08:00] <MBohrer14> is there a wireless card support page that I'm just not finding on the forums.  My laptop uses Intel Centrino Duo and isn't working, but does work for my linksys desktop.  is intel centrino supported?
[08:00] <Azmodan> Thanks everybody.
[08:01] <i3d> Azmodan: huh ok.. :)
[08:01] <neverm1nd> DevC: I understand you very well :)
[08:01] <Azmodan> i3d: No wait, it parses infophp.php but won't load phpmyadmin (it offers to download it).
[08:02] <DevC> although with linux I think that you can make a link to phpmyadmin in the specified apache default directory and it should clear having to move files around
[08:02] <LineOf7s> ty Vigor.  :o)
[08:02] <i3d> Azmodan: that's probably some different stories
[08:02] <Vigor> :)
[08:03] <Azmodan> ie3: I'll try to figure it out later anyway, it's getting late.
[08:03] <Azmodan> Thanks.  Good night.
[08:03] <i3d> Azmodan: as long as apache parses php files, the func should be setup correctly.
[08:03] <i3d> Azmodan: ok
[08:04] <wildchild> I am having some problems oppening keygen for some win application with wine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34708/
[08:05] <mnepton> is this really happening?
[08:06] <indoubuntu> keygen? is this something illegal?
[08:07] <wildchild> indoubuntu: no it's not illegal its free software :)
[08:08] <crimsun> uh
[08:08] <indoubuntu> illegal softwares are free
[08:08] <crimsun> that is most unwelcome in here, wildchild.
[08:08] <LineOf7s> ACDSee Photo Manager isn't 'free' in any sense.
[08:09] <mnepton> but w32.PANTS-BOMB.ru is free. just open that "funyDOCUMANT.doc" attachment.
[08:09] <siXy> wildchild, just as well #ubuntu is pretty much op-free or that would be a perma-ban
[08:09] <crimsun> pants off!
[08:10] <michaelfavia> which driver should i be using for a quadro4 900? nv or nvidia?
[08:10] <DevC> off to bed later
[08:10] <crimsun> michaelfavia: latter
[08:11] <michaelfavia> crimsun, i just tried to download and run the new nvidia installer and it said that my card wasnt supported... :(
[08:11] <siXy> michaelfavia, either will work. the first is gpl and great for 2d desktop. the second is nvidias binary blob which is much faster for 3d, but not gpl.
[08:11] <Vigor> IBM bought and owns that, if it is an archived version, like 3 years old and you still have it, kewl, but IBM owns the source code to ACDSee, at least I think they do.
[08:11] <michaelfavia> siXy, great explanation. thx...
[08:11] <siXy> no problem
[08:12] <treedreamer> Now I need a software to create Macromedia flash , does anyone give me a tip?
[08:12] <michaelfavia> is there somewhere i can grab old kernels?
[08:12] <michaelfavia> that were in ubuntu channels.
[08:12] <siXy> treedreamer, wine+flash mx
[08:12] <siXy> michaelfavia, kernel.org
[08:13] <crimsun> michaelfavia: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/
[08:13] <siXy> why would you want an older kernel however?
[08:13] <treedreamer> siXy,how about things without wine?
[08:14] <siXy> treedreamer, i dont know of any way to greate flash annimations without using flash itself.  i suspect that adobe would take a dim view of that sort of behaviour
[08:15] <cafuego_> php can generate flash on the fly
[08:16] <treedreamer> siXy,oh,thanks anyway
[08:16] <indoubuntu> michaelfavia: kernel.org
[08:16] <treedreamer> thanks cafuego for your tips ,
[08:16] <siXy> if you find one let me know ;)
[08:17] <treedreamer> Now I will try out PHP
[08:17] <treedreamer> good bye guys
[08:17] <Vigor> aracnophelia is a free Care Ware html doodad that is Java and just about every thing in one. Its free, and no strings attatched, so it isnt used much.
[08:18] <H3g3m0n> !mp3
[08:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:18] <i3d> cafuego_: you mean use php to create a flash or swf from scratch?
[08:18] <cafuego_> i3d: yup
[08:19] <cafuego_> i3d: Note, in code, no pretty gui
[08:19] <i3d> cafuego_: interesting... any sources you suggest to look at? I am interested in looking into it
[08:19] <Jordan_U> How would I install Grub to /dev/sdb ? ( sudo grub-install /dev/sdb doesn't work )
[08:20] <benjamin> what the error?
[08:20] <benjamin> jordan
[08:20] <Jordan_U> benjamin: /dev/sdb does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[08:20] <cafuego_> i3d: Hmmm.. there was a slashdot article a year or so ago
[08:20] <LineOf7s> If a file has owner:group of root:root, and I want a user not to be able to run it (but an admin user to be able to), do I change the file's group to something the admin's in and remove execute permissions from 'Other'?
[08:20] <H3g3m0n> !nvidiabeta
[08:20] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9629 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://seerofsouls.com/ edgy contrib" (for x86) (key at http://seerofsouls.com/ubuntu.html) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[08:21] <i3d> cafuego_: k, i'll do a search then
[08:21] <Tater> hey all I upgraded to edgy and it totally borked my system so after numerous attepts I finally got ubuntu (kubuntu was a total failure all 400 times I tried to install it) installed but everytime I attempt to set up the open source radeon drives when I startx it hardlocks my system and I have to revert to the vesa driver to get X to work any ideas?
[08:21] <i3d> cafuego_: I know the way php manipulate swf files but not aware of a way it can create swf though
[08:21] <benjamin> tater: www.getautomatix.com
[08:22] <siXy> i3d, it can create them but unless you are _very_ familiar with swf files it will be a very steep learning curve
[08:22] <Tater> benjamin: I heard that automatix wasn't supported nor advised from people on this very channel
[08:22] <H3g3m0n> !flash
[08:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:22] <benjamin> mmm probably
[08:22] <i3d> siXy: ok
[08:22] <Jordan_U> !automatix
[08:22] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:22] <benjamin> but it works for me
[08:22] <Jordan_U> !worksforme
[08:22] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:22] <benjamin> aight
[08:22] <Jordan_U> :)
[08:23] <michaelfavia> i would like the .deb file for linux-image-2.6.17-6 is this possible to find?
[08:23] <michaelfavia> it isnt in that pool
[08:23] <benjamin> !worksforme
[08:23] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:23] <Ayabara> I should be able to install rpm files in ubuntu, right?
[08:23] <benjamin> nope
[08:23] <siXy> benjamin, hush.
[08:23] <Jordan_U> !rpm
[08:23] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[08:23] <siXy> ;)
[08:23] <benjamin> debain packages only
[08:23] <benjamin> :P
[08:23] <Tater> lol I mean I could give it a shot, this is a new install and I've already reinstalled this system 10 times in the last few days after wrecking it and not wanting to backtrack
[08:23] <benjamin> kk
[08:24] <umista> how can i mount my raid 0 drive?
[08:24] <Jordan_U> Tater: That sounds exactly like me :)
[08:24] <whatever22> I installed Ubuntu, jacked it up, now I am on the live CD... where is the installed /etc/group file located? All I am finding is the live CD's /etc/group
[08:24] <Tater> I tried using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and selecting the ati driver but then my system hard locks on every boot
[08:24] <benjamin> check your dev for the raid driver name example HDa=hard disk location A SDA=sata
[08:24] <siXy> LineOf7s, sorry i missed your q. assuming you have not set others to allow then only root will be able to access that file.
[08:24] <Spee_Der> michaelfavia: Look here -- >> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/2.6.17-6.17
[08:25] <Tater> With the amount of problems people are having with edgy how can it be considered a stable release?
[08:25] <Jordan_U> whatever22: Did you mount your hard drive?
[08:25] <michaelfavia> Spee_Der, i see the source tarball but how to i get or make a deb out of it?
[08:25] <whatever22> Jordan_U: that may be why :)thank you
[08:26] <siXy> umista, i assume yo mean your raid 0 array. what raid controller are you using?
[08:26] <Jordan_U> Tater: It is called "Edgy" for a reason, and you will get biased results from waiting in a support channel :)
[08:26] <keeganX> If someone isn't busy I was wondering if they could help me
[08:26] <LineOf7s> nm siXy -patience is a virtue.  :o)  while I was waiting, I testing my theory - works a treat!  Set the group to that of the admin, and turn of "Other" executability.  Now the pleb user has no access.  ty anyway though - it's nice to be acknowledged.  :o)
[08:26] <Vigor> Tater: Did you Ctrl-Alt-Bckspce to restart reboot after install?
[08:26] <Ayabara> benjamin, ok. suspected that :-)
[08:26] <siXy> :)
[08:27] <Tater> Jordan_U: shipping kubuntu with broken wireless assistant isn't what I would call a small problem though
[08:27] <umista> nforce4 mobo
[08:28] <Tater> Vigor: Yup, I also did a full rebot and it locks everytime when it attempts to start up x and gdm
[08:28] <kraut> moin
[08:28] <umista> siXy: nforce4 mobo
[08:29] <Tater> Vigor: *reboot
[08:29] <siXy> if you are using the onboard raid controller of your motherboard you may have issues in linux, as these are not true hardware raid controllers and linux does not like them. you are best off using the inbuilt software raid
[08:29] <keeganX> !mpd
[08:29] <ubotu> mpd: Music Player Daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 123 kB, installed size 392 kB
[08:29] <keeganX> sigh...
[08:29] <sushi_> Hey anyone know how to make the desktop background a .SWF (flash file)?
[08:30] <sushi_> In GNOME
[08:30] <Copan> can anyone tell me how to properly use the rmdir command, there is a permissions issues with deleting the folder in the home directory my old account was using
[08:30] <sushi_> or, set the background as a web page?
[08:30] <Vigor> Did you read the walkthrough about installing Binary Drivers? It mentions restarting Terninal but not actually re-bootstrapping.
[08:30] <siXy> Copan, do it as sudo
[08:30] <defrysk> Copan, rm -rf /path/to/folder/
[08:30] <sushi_> Copan: sudo chmod -R +w (directory)
[08:30] <sushi_> Copan: chmod --help     and   chown --help
[08:31] <H3g3m0n> !flashbeta
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashbeta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <Copan> defrysk: your method worked fine, thank you
[08:31] <H3g3m0n> !flash9
[08:31] <ubotu> You can download a Flash 9 installer here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/backports/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy).  If you use GDebi to install it, make sure you open its terminal window (to answer an installer question).
[08:32] <sushi_> How do i set a flash file as the desktop background though?
[08:32] <Tater> Vigor: I didn't install a binary driver I was attempting to use the open source xorg-xserver-driver-ati driver
[08:32] <Vigor> Its still the same process
[08:32] <abes> Hey I have a problem with some repositories! I added http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ and on apt-get upgrade I get an error about the public key not found - any ideas?
[08:32] <siXy> Tater first boot your system into runlevel 3, then we can diagnose the problem
[08:33] <Tater> siXy: I have no idea how to do that never had to
[08:33] <Jordan_U> sushi_: There were some scrips I saw once for beryl that would play screensavers in the background, that might be a good place to start looking.
[08:33] <Jordan_U> abes: You need the pgp key for freecontrib
[08:33] <sushi_> Jordan_u aw i dont use beryl
[08:34] <siXy> add 3 to the end of the kernel line on boot
[08:34] <benjamin> Ayabara- ok so what kind of file system is it?
[08:34] <Halpo> if i compile an older version of the linux kernel, is it possible to easily boot into ubuntu with that kernel version??
[08:34] <abes> Jordan_U: how do I do it?
[08:34] <siXy> cant remember exactly how to get to it using the pretty gui as i run in text-only mode
[08:34] <oldsony> Halpo: should be all right
[08:35] <Ayabara> benjamin, I'm installing vmware server, but I just got the tar.gz package instead
[08:35] <Tater> siXy: well I'm going to give automatix a shot and see what happens it can't hurt if not then I'll jump intop the nitty gritty I suppose
[08:35] <benjamin> ayabara - :S ahh me no nothing about vmware yet
[08:35] <siXy> Tater, if its a fresh install it might be quicker just to reformat
[08:36] <Halpo> oldsony: how would i "chain" the two together?
[08:36] <Ayabara> benjamin, I think it's working out, but thanks for caring ;-)
[08:37] <benjamin> cool no worries
[08:37] <Tater> siXy: I've reformated on every install, I've tried the xubunty installer the kubuntu installer AND the ubuntu installer all fail when they try to fire up the graphical install interface SO I simply grabbed the kernel image and initrd.gz ramdisk image from the edgy repository edited grub to boot it and did a network install with a total reformat and yet the problem persists with each new install
[08:37] <Tater> siXy: dapper worked like a dream
[08:38] <benjamin> still does :)
[08:38] <siXy> what graphics card do you have?
[08:38] <Jordan_U_> abes: Run the command at: http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/
[08:40] <alik> Hello. Sorry to barge in - I am new here. :-) May I ask a question about installing xubuntu on this channel?
[08:40] <Tater> siXy: Radeon 9500 pro OC'd with the other 4 pipelines enabled and it is seen as a 9700 pro and I have NEVER had problems with it with dapper, hedgehog (?) or gentoo
[08:40] <siXy> alik, dont ask to ask - just ask
[08:41] <Jordan_U_> alik: Sure, whats your question?
[08:41] <alik> Thanx! I am trying to install xubuntu 6.10 on Dell Inspiron 3200. The problem is that it doesn't work.
[08:41] <alik> It gets to the boot spash screen and then hangs forever with that "scanning bar".
[08:41] <alik> I also cannot install Debian EtchB3 on that machine.
[08:41] <Tater> siXy: I may just say screw it and drop back to dapepr and just wait until they iron out some more of the kinks, I quit using gentoo a year ago because I was tired of emerge breaking things and having to spend hours tinkering to get something to work
[08:42] <alik> No problem installing DSL (or DSL-n) or GRML.
[08:42] <Jordan_U_> alik: Do you know how to edit kernel parameters on the live CD?
[08:43] <Copan> my sound card is configured and detected by ubuntu, but i still have no audio, can anyone help? i'm using ATI IXP sound card
[08:43] <alik> I tried variety of safe options - nodma ide=nodma noscsi noacpi pci=noacpi irqpoll = no luck...
[08:43] <Jordan_U_> alik: You may also want to try the text based "alternate" install CD.
[08:43] <Vigor> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ati%29
[08:43] <Copan> this has happened before and doesn't work again, like ubuntu forgot about it :(
[08:43] <Tater> Copan do you have PCM turned on and are you using ALSA?
[08:43] <Copan> Tater: i am using ALSA, and i don't know what PCM is?
[08:43] <whatever22> Jordan_U_: when mounting hd1 as ext3: sudo mount /dev/hd1 /mnt/mynewdrive -t ext3 umask=000 This is not working for me. It is giving me wring file system but I know its ext3 because gparted says so
[08:43] <alik> I'll try the alternate - but I am not sure it would help...
[08:43] <Jordan_U_> alik: Did you take out the "quiet" parameter to see where it was failing?
[08:44] <alik> It seems to me that it does not like the CDROM for some reason.
[08:44] <Tater> Open up your mixer and look for a switch or meter or whatever labeled PCM and turn it on, thats most likely the culprit
[08:44] <alik> No, I didn't take out 'quiet' - let me try.
[08:44] <siXy> Tater, overclocked and modified graphics cards rarely completely stable and troublefree. you can either go back to dapper or format and resintall in text mode then try loading various driver kmods and see which work and which dont.
[08:44] <Copan> Tater: PCM appears to be on, it's not muted and the bars are up full
[08:45] <Tater> siXy: Oh i have no doubt that my card isn't 100 percent stable, but the worst I've seen from it are the rare artifact when I'm pushing it to hard in a game
[08:45] <Jordan_U_> whatever22: What happens when you try without the umask=000 ?
[08:46] <Tater> Copan: hmmm not sure, what started the problem?
[08:46] <Vigor> Ima gonna read the Debian articles.
[08:46] <Copan> Tater: i'm not sure, the audio appeared to be fine when I logged in, because the startup sounded, after I left my computer idle, the sound was gone!
[08:47] <Tater> Copan: is it possible something simply hasn't let go of the alsa driver and is blocking everything else from using it
[08:47] <Tater> Copan: you could try restarting alsa
[08:47] <whatever22> Jordan_U_: Well then it works :)
[08:47] <Copan> Tater: is there a command to restart alsa?
[08:48] <Tater> Copan: yes but I can't remember lol hold on
[08:48] <Halpo> what exactly is X, and is it normally running?
[08:48] <crimsun> Copan: didn't we fix this last night?
[08:48] <Tater> Copan: sudo rcalsasound restart
[08:49] <Jordan_U> Halpo: X is what displays graphics on your screen.
[08:49] <Copan> crimsun: yes we did, but my sound is gone again?
[08:49] <crimsun> Tater: no, we don't provide a magical "restart ALSA" script.
[08:49] <whatever22> Jordan_U: thank you
[08:49] <Tater> crimsun: hmm well I'll be how do you restart alsa then?
[08:49] <Copan> Tater: that command didnt work
[08:49] <RawSushi> what could be causing my box to hard crash?
[08:49] <Spee_Der> !X
[08:49] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:49] <Halpo> Jordan_U i thought so, what i am trying to do is compile the linux kernel and i have to make a configuration file by running make xconfig which is supposed to bring up a gui to make the file.....but this results in an error
[08:49] <crimsun> Copan: ok, let's go through it again. What's the output from ``groups |grep audio 2>&1 >/dev/null ; echo $?''?
[08:50] <RawSushi> I wonder if it has anything to do with my new video card
[08:50] <crimsun> Tater: you don't.
[08:50] <siXy> alsa is now compiled into the kernel certain parts of it can be restarted but not the whole thing
[08:50] <floating> what command to see harddisk capacities ?
[08:50] <RawSushi> I had an NVIDIA driver
[08:50] <Copan> crimsun: what is the pasteit service url?
[08:50] <RawSushi> installed
[08:50] <Tater> siXy: got ya
[08:50] <RawSushi> and I got that new card
[08:50] <Copan> crimsun: oops, the output is 0 :p
[08:50] <whatever22> RawSushi: If it just poweres off and reboots its got to be the power supply or the capacitors on the motherboard
[08:50] <crimsun> please don't spread misinformation. One doesn't "restart ALSA" - it's not a service.
[08:50] <RawSushi> and I edited xorg
[08:50] <RawSushi> and changed nv to nvidia
[08:50] <crimsun> Copan: it should be 0.
[08:51] <RawSushi> it just hard freezes
[08:51] <Tater> crimsun: Sorry man
[08:51] <crimsun> Copan: now, pastebin ``amixer'' output
[08:51] <sushi_> o look theres another sushi in here
[08:51] <RawSushi> mouse cursor stops
[08:51] <RawSushi> only solution is to press reboot
[08:51] <Copan> crimsun: pastebin url, thank you
[08:51] <Copan> ill bookmark
[08:51] <crimsun> Copan: see the topic
[08:52] <whatever22> RawSushi: Video card or memory... could be something with the graphics drivers I guess. Reinstall them
[08:52] <froggy2> has anybody used zimbra
[08:52] <Copan> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34711/
[08:52] <siXy> froggy2, yes.
[08:53] <CYbersoul> aew froggy2
[08:53] <froggy2> im having difficulty installing it
[08:53] <CYbersoul> Kom ons praat kak met die mense
[08:53] <Tater> Copan: whats this then "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart"
[08:53] <floating> How do I see how much space on each partition in gb ?
[08:54] <Tater> Sorry I mean crimsun not Copan
[08:54] <CYbersoul> use the 'free' command
[08:54] <crimsun> Tater: that only stores and restores mixer levels
[08:54] <Flannel> floating: df -h
[08:54] <Tater> crimsun: oh cool
[08:54] <floating> thanks
[08:54] <CYbersoul> pleasur
[08:54] <CYbersoul> e
[08:54] <Tater> Learning stuff rules :P
[08:54] <brkopac> how do I change the BPP?
[08:54] <crimsun> Copan: does this make audio audible?  amixer set 'External Amplifier' off
[08:55] <brkopac> on my desktop
[08:55] <CYbersoul> BEE?
[08:55] <froggy2> do you mean the bbe
[08:55] <brkopac> The screen BPP
[08:55] <brkopac> want to change it from 32 to 8
[08:55] <malt> when i do apt-cache show phpmyadmin it shows phpmyadmin but i can't access it by http://localhost/phpmyadmin/
[08:55] <CYbersoul> DOES ANYBODY KNOW ZIMBA
[08:55] <malt> do i need to add anything to apache config?
[08:56] <CYbersoul> Zimbar
[08:56] <CYbersoul> zimbro
[08:56] <froggy2> when istalling zimbra i get a ldap failed error help
[08:56] <CYbersoul> froogy2 needs help
[08:57] <CYbersoul> clear
[08:57] <Copan> crimsun: no it does not
[08:57] <cafuego_> Zimbra I guess you mean?
[08:57] <CYbersoul> Zimbabwe
[08:57] <somian> Here's an obscure question (more a dev Q than a User Q): what is the mono font that gnome-terminal is using in Ubuntu?
[08:58] <somian> That's a damn good-looking font (to my taste) ... I want to tell Mrxvt to use it.
[08:58] <froggy2> no its an ldap error i get when installing zimbra
[08:58] <keeganX> How would I change the permissions to /media/music/Music
[08:58] <crimsun> Copan: ok, set it 'on' again, then change this:  amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 2
[08:58] <siXy> crimsun, apologies - you are correct about alsa.  long time since ive used sound on 2.6 kernels.
[08:58] <abes> Hey I have a problem with http://packages.freecontrib.org -> when i run update it errors me with NO PUBLIC KEY found.. any hints?
[08:58] <CYbersoul> chmod 777 source
[08:59] <brkopac> My desktops bpp is currently set to 32 I want to change it manually
[08:59] <crimsun> siXy: np at all
[08:59] <siXy> froggy2, paste the full log of your zimbra install to pastebin or rafb.net.
[08:59] <Halpo> has someone in here built the linux kernel from scratch before that i could talk to, or knows a better channel for these questions?
[08:59] <keeganX> does chmod777 give read permission?
[08:59] <somian> I think there's a dialog in Synaptic to add public keys, but I am total sleepy noob
[08:59] <froggy2> thanx
[08:59] <siXy> Halpo, what are you trying to find out?
[08:59] <birdfish> Halpo: what do you mean from scrat?
[08:59] <birdfish> Halpo: you mean configuring a kernel and compiling?
[09:00] <Halpo> compiling i should say
[09:00] <Halpo> yeah
[09:00] <Copan> crimsun: is there a file that can play audio through terminal, like the startup sound, all i have is radio and it takes time to load
[09:00] <siXy> i have compiled the source. i am not linus.
[09:00] <birdfish> Sure
[09:00] <somian> abes: I think there's a dialog in Synaptic to add public keys, but I am total sleepy noob <-- that was for you
[09:00] <crimsun> Copan: aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[09:00] <birdfish> Halpo: Are you going through the gentoo handbook or what?
[09:00] <Halpo> birdfish: i have the version of the kernel i want to work with...but when i run make menuconfig or make xconifig it quits with errors
[09:00] <Halpo> no, this is more for learning purposes
[09:00] <birdfish> Halpo: in ubuntu?
[09:00] <sushi_> keeganX chmod 777 will give all permissions
[09:00] <froggy2> sixy : what do u mean by pastebin
[09:00] <Copan> crimsun: no audio yet
[09:00] <Halpo> but i've never compiled it before
[09:01] <sushi_> froggy2:; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:01] <birdfish> Halpo: are you use that you downloaded the correct kernel source and untarred correctly?
[09:01] <abes> somian: well there is a tab to add keys... but i dont know where to get it from
[09:01] <siXy> froggy2, its a place you can paste stuff for others to see without cluttering irc chans with lines of error codes. i reccomend rafb.net as its faster.
[09:01] <birdfish> Halpo: once untarred, you need to be in the correct directory before you "make menuconfig"
[09:01] <crimsun> Copan: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 3
[09:01] <somian> froggy2: A Web service (free) where you can vomit stuff so you *don't do it here*
[09:01] <Halpo> i know that....it begins to run...but then quits with errors
[09:01] <birdfish> Halpo: I'm  not sure which directory that is in Ubuntu, but I'm guessing it's something like /usr/src/linux
[09:02] <birdfish> Halpo: what are the errors?
[09:02] <Copan> crimsun: no audio that appears to be audible
[09:02] <froggy2> sixy : i've found my error on there already but it doesnt seem like anybody has a solution for it.
[09:02] <Halpo> do i need to unpack it to that directory...right now its just unpacked on my desktop
[09:02] <Copan> sounds*
[09:02] <somian> abes: right! That would be the next step. At the repository's home page it might (ought to) say s't about the keys
[09:02] <siXy> Halpo, quits with errors is the second most useless piece of information you can give someone, right after it just doesnt work
[09:02] <michaelfavia> how do you downgrade to a specific version of a deb? --force-downgrade?
[09:02] <coolnichuh> im using this one now
[09:03] <birdfish> Halpo: I don't think it has to be unpacked to that directory.  What are the errors?
[09:03] <siXy> froggy2, well until i know what your error is i am unable to comment.
[09:03] <Halpo> well there are a bunch....warnings.....and also things undeclared
[09:03] <crimsun> Copan: kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*) && sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}' |sort -r) && sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe snd-atiixp
[09:03] <froggy2> sixy : when i start ldap then it says " slapd are unable to start"
[09:04] <siXy> froggy2, if you posted the full log of your install to one of the places mentioned then i may be able to fix your problem. i have to go in 10 mins tho so youd better be quick ;)
[09:04] <Halpo> errors that shouldnt be there right after unpacking
[09:04] <Copan> crimsun: startup is audible :p, any idea what caused the malfunction, and is it possibly going to happen again/often?
[09:04] <abes> somian: got it solved... thx anyways :]  (FYI: wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -)
[09:04] <birdfish> Halpo: have never had that problem.  Perhaps pastebin the errors or google them
[09:05] <coolnichuh> do it do it froggy
[09:05] <crimsun> Copan: please pastebin ``amixer'' now
[09:05] <Halpo> im going to try to redownload i first i guess
[09:05] <Halpo> i dont know what would have gone awry though'
[09:05] <Copan> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34713/
[09:06] <somian> outSTANDING abes :-) ! Good for you
[09:07] <somian> You've got some good shell-fu there if you weren't freaked by figuring that out, abes ;-)
[09:08] <siXy> wget and pipe are shell-fu??!!
[09:09] <RawSushi> man I want the perfect desktop for my box
[09:09] <Copan> crimsun: have a conclusion as to what caused the malfunction?
[09:09] <abes> somian: lol... i gave google-fu ;]
[09:09] <RawSushi> I can't really figure out what to use
[09:09] <RawSushi> I want something high tech, not buggy
[09:09] <RawSushi> smooth
[09:09] <abes> RawSushi: GNOME
[09:09] <RawSushi> and most importantly
[09:09] <RawSushi> easy to get around on
[09:10] <RawSushi> for when I'm tripping on LSD
[09:10] <crimsun> Copan: yeah, your pcm/spdif was reset by some program. It needs to be set to 3 for analog output for pcm.
[09:10] <siXy> there is no perfect desktop.
[09:10] <Copan> crimsun: do you know if this could happen again?
[09:10] <RawSushi> yeah kinda figured
[09:10] <crimsun> Copan: yes.
[09:10] <hentai_jeff> yes there is siXy it's called life
[09:10] <RawSushi> is gnome better than KDE?
[09:10] <siXy> life != a desktop
[09:10] <Copan> crimsun: yes as in it will happen again I assume, and anyway to prevent it?
[09:10] <siXy> no. its different
[09:10] <abes> RawSushi: I like it better
[09:11] <RawSushi> don't get me wrong, I'm no n00b
[09:11] <RawSushi> I've used both many times
[09:11] <RawSushi> but I'm saying
[09:11] <crimsun> Copan: yes, it can happen again; no, there's no way to prevent it.
[09:11] <RawSushi> is it more customizable?
[09:11] <hentai_jeff> XFCE?
[09:11] <RawSushi> than KDE?
[09:11] <siXy> gnome has a slightly simpler interface
[09:11] <RawSushi> XFCE I always found was buggy
[09:11] <BenjaminPannell> Hello, please tell me if there is a way to stop Ubuntu from saying that my external HDD is a read only disk.
[09:11] <Copan> crimsun: thanks again :-)
[09:11] <RawSushi> well
[09:11] <RawSushi> most importantly
[09:11] <somian> You'll really be "not a n00b anymore" when you stop asking questions like that, RawSushi
[09:12] <RawSushi> I want it to run smooth
[09:12] <abes> what's the best DVD player for Ubunut? MPlayer? Gxine?
[09:12] <birdfish> Anyone know of an app that allows an external usb thumbdrive to be used as memory?
[09:12] <iBashUsr> abes: ubuntu doesn't play DVDs :-P
[09:13] <somian> BenjaminPannell: mount the disk so it is writable.
[09:13] <iBashUsr> abes: it's copyrighted... and ubuntu doesn't believe in playing copyrighted stuff :-P
[09:13] <abes> iBashUsr: lol....
[09:13] <BenjaminPannell> How?
[09:13] <iBashUsr> abes: there is this article in the wiki that tells you how to play dvd's though
[09:13] <BenjaminPannell> I have been looking for a setting for the past 5 hours
[09:13] <iBashUsr> abes: you have to use multiverse or soemething
[09:13] <abes> iBashUsr: ok... let's make an assumption (libdvdcss2 = true && w32codecs = true)....
[09:13] <RawSushi> and everything to work properly...if I want to pop in a DVD and watch, works instantly..etc.
[09:13] <RawSushi> little things like that
[09:13] <Halpo> birdfish: so i found one problemm...."Unable to find QT installation"
[09:13] <H3g3m0n> abes: Try them both :)
[09:13] <RawSushi> I want my music easier to access
[09:13] <somian> BenjaminPannell: SYSTEM|Administration|Disks
[09:14] <RawSushi> I know I can make a shortcut to it
[09:14] <RawSushi> but
[09:14] <BenjaminPannell> Thank you!
[09:14] <birdfish> Halpo: why would you need QT to be installed?
[09:14] <Halpo> to run make xconfig i guess
[09:14] <RawSushi> I'm not really crazy about the file managers I guess
[09:14] <birdfish> Halpo: stop with the xconfig ;)  just use make menuconfig
[09:14] <Sepero> omg, there is a lot of ppl in here
[09:14] <RawSushi> I like them..very neat..but just not smooth enough
[09:15] <abes> Sepero: usually 100 more :p
[09:15] <Halpo> birdfish: these are the errors i get for menuconfig....... make[2] : *** [scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.o]  Error 1
[09:15] <Halpo> make[1] : *** [menuconfig]  Error 2
[09:15] <Sepero> What is the defualt program for burning CD/DVD's on Ubuntu? :)
[09:15] <natrix> morning ppl
[09:15] <siXy> RawSushi, ubuntu+gnome is fairly close to that, but still not there by any means
[09:15] <Halpo> thats right after unpacking the kernel too....no modifications whatsoever
[09:15] <RawSushi> brb
[09:16] <birdfish> Halpo: do you have make installed?
[09:16] <birdfish> Halpo: do you have the gcc installed?
[09:16] <Halpo> birdfish: yes
[09:16] <Sepero> ANYONE: What is the defualt program for burning CD/DVD's on Ubuntu? :)
[09:16] <natrix> can anyone tell how do I unistall an application from crossover office that does not respond? I am using ubuntu draper drake
[09:16] <Copan> Does anyone know of a program/web-site that is linux friendly so I can listen to some music?? Either radio or songs, like Yahoo music, or AOL music, or anything so I can have some tunes on this OS?
[09:16] <siXy> nn everyone
[09:16] <birdfish> Halpo: dunno then
[09:17] <somian> Copan: "Linux-friendly"?
[09:17] <Copan> somian: every plugin that the site requires to listen to music is windows media or real player
[09:17] <abes> Sepero: well... CD can be played by Totem... when it comes to DVDs you first need to get codecs... then probably VLC or Mplayer
[09:17] <birdfish> Halpo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild?highlight=%28kernel%29
[09:17] <somian> There's a lot of sites out there that make their music available via mp3, I think
[09:18] <natrix> ANYONE:how do I unistall an application from crossover office that does not respond? I am using ubuntu draper drake
[09:18] <somian> "dapper drake"
[09:18] <Kanwal--f> anybody have yahoochat working properly in linux?  Big reward
[09:18] <Copan> somian: DURR... i forgot about my cd's =p
[09:18] <natrix> somian: sorry abt the spell!
[09:18] <somian> Copan: heh ;)
[09:19] <Tom_L> mornin'
[09:19] <Kanwal--f> anybody have yahoochat working properly in linux?  Big reward
[09:19] <Sepero> natrix: Probably use the windows uninstaller that came with the program. If it doesn't have one, then I guess you just gotta delete it.
[09:19] <Tom_L> any netboot gurus here
[09:19] <Copan> somian: it cannot read the cd because: Sound Juicer could not access the CD-ROM device '/dev/hdc' Reason: Permission denied
[09:19] <natrix> sepero: if I delete it, is it stay on the bar of applications programs?
[09:20] <Copan> nothing on this laptop works with ubuntu :-S
[09:20] <Tom_L> anyone successfully got ubuntu onto a Portege p2000 (without removable media)?
[09:20] <somian> What is the dang kbd shortcut for switching workspaces in gnome??
[09:20] <tomyeah> hey guys, i deleted a gnome panel and now im trying to find this region for active tasks or task symbols of the active programs ... like gaim and amarok and so .... is there a way to get it back to a panel ?
[09:20] <abes> Copan: change permissions to 777 on /dev/hdc (make sure /dev/hdc is indeed the cd-rom)
[09:20] <Sepero> natrix: I don't know. I've never used crossover. You installed the program with a MSwindows installer, right?
[09:21] <Copan> abes: i'm terminal stupid, how?
[09:21] <somian> Copan: like abes says, it's just a perms problem
[09:21] <Sepero> natrix: (an exe program)
[09:21] <Kanwal--f> anybody have yahoochat working properly in linux?  Big reward
[09:21] <abes> Copan: fist do "sudo cd /dev/hdc"
[09:21] <natrix> Sepero: Yes, but when I am trying to use the unistall option of the program it crashes
[09:22] <abes> Copan: then "sudo ls" and check if it contains the files that should be on the cd
[09:22] <Copan> abes: cd command doesn't exist?
[09:22] <abes> Copan: hmmm
[09:22] <natrix> sepero: I also tried the same procedure from crossover but it gives me the same ...
[09:23] <Sepero> natrix: If it won't uninstall with it's uninstaller, then your only other option is deleting it.
[09:23] <abes> Copan: are you in the terminal?
[09:23] <Copan> abes: yes
[09:23] <somian> If your "cd" command does not work, your system is really hosed ;-)
[09:23] <abes> Copan: try just "cd /dev/hdc"
[09:23] <Sepero> natrix: Basically, you'd have to do the same thing if you were actually running MSwindows
[09:23] <Copan> abes: cd: /dev/hdc/: Not a directory
[09:24] <abes> Copan: or even "man cd" so you can see if it shows a man page for cd - if it shows u options its not that bad
[09:24] <natrix> sepero: I suppose I can delete it but I don't know if it has created any depedencies in the system, and if it remains as a dead link on the bar
[09:24] <froggy2> hey im having trouble with installing zimbra i pasted the setup error on these sites can anyone help plzzzz(http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/QVbBY893.html)   (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34714/) (http://pastebin.com/)
[09:24] <abes> Copan: ok... then it's good.. cd existst :]
[09:24] <abes> Copan: try "chmod 777 /dev/hdc"
[09:24] <abes> Copan: and then try the Sound Juicer again
[09:24] <Sepero> natrix: I'm certain it has no dependancies in your Ubuntu system. What bar do you refer to? The Gnome bar?
[09:25] <natrix> sepero: I tried to find the application from the add/remove application from the Applications bar but I couldn't find it
[09:25] <Copan> abes: working correctly
[09:25] <abes> Copan: so its solved? :P
[09:25] <Copan> abes: indeed
[09:25] <natrix> sepero: yes gnome
[09:26] <Sepero> natrix: You can also be able to delete it from your bar manually, but I don't use Gnome, so I'm not sure how.
[09:26] <Sepero> natrix: You can also  delete it from your bar manually, but I don't use Gnome, so I'm not sure how.
[09:27] <abes> I installed (thru apt-get) libdvdcss2 and w32codecs after adding http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ to my repositories but Totem still returns the error asking if I am trying to play an encoded DVD without libdvdcss... any ides?
[09:27] <misc--> does dovecot-imapd package have mysql support?
[09:27] <natrix> sepero: I'll try it anyway as the last option, I just asked if there is a proper way to do this
[09:27] <foo> I need some way to set up a linux vpn server.. something nice, easy, and secure. Any recommendations? openvpn? Hm
[09:28] <Sepero> natrix: no prob
[09:28] <natrix> sepero: thanks anyway!
[09:29] <Sepero> welcome!
[09:29] <RawSushi> http://webpages.charter.net/bobad/gnomescreenshot.png
[09:29] <RawSushi> my desktop
[09:29] <CybersouL> clear
[09:29] <RawSushi> I guess I like it
[09:29] <CybersouL> clear
[09:29] <RawSushi> I just want to make it a little easier to get around on
[09:30] <abes> I installed (thru apt-get) libdvdcss2 and w32codecs after adding http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/ to my repositories but Totem still returns the error asking if I am trying to play an encoded DVD without libdvdcss... any ides?
[09:30] <RawSushi> maybe make a nice launcher
[09:33] <RawSushi> I guess gnome DOES run a lot smoother than KDE does.
[09:33] <RawSushi> What does everyone think of my screenshot?
[09:34] <seijling> heya
[09:35] <seijling> anyone mind helping a bit of a noob out?
[09:37] <somian> How does gnome flip to the next workspace w/o using the mouse?
[09:38] <seijling> dunno.
[09:38] <niksavel> hey all
[09:38] <abes> Does libdvdcss require any special configuration?
[09:38] <seijling> i just wish i knew how to get my ati vid card working
[09:39] <niksavel> question: I am using gnome+beryl and I have a problem with screen going to sleep every 15 minutes or so even though I have set it to never in my power management...  any ideas any1?
[09:39] <dreamer> damnit, my desktop crashed again while I was gone  :'(
[09:40] <abes> niksavel: do u close the lid?
[09:40] <dreamer> I can still ssh to it though
[09:40] <abes> Does libdvdcss require any special configuration? I installed it and I still can't play DVDs - any ideas much appreciated :)
[09:40] <cpk1> explain this to me: fstab says /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0 but trying to mount it i get mount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist
[09:40] <somian> Aha: ctrl-alt-left/right
[09:41] <somian> Strange and disturbing, cpk1
[09:42] <cpk1> =\
[09:43] <niksavel> abes: no
[09:43] <niksavel> abes: it's open all the time
[09:43] <jax31> cpk1: ll /dev/hd* says what?
[09:43] <hentai_jeff> what?
[09:44] <niksavel> abes: it's not really a big problem when at work, but when I try to watch a movie at home it becomes quite irritating
[09:44] <seijling> anyone familiar with direct draw (and how ot enable it)?
[09:44] <jedix> is there a speedstep module that can control two cpus?
[09:44] <jedix> specifically core 2 duo
[09:44] <cpk1> jax31: ll command not found?
[09:45] <seijling> jedix: lemme know if you find one
[09:45] <jedix> seijling: yep
[09:45] <jax31> cpk1: ll = ls -l
[09:46] <jax31> cpk1: ls -l /dev/hd*
[09:47] <mcscruff> lo all, is there a way to run iis on linux?
[09:47] <dreamer> anybody an idea how I can check why X crashed on my desktop? and why the KB isn't responding ..
[09:47] <abes> niksavel: is it exactly 15 minutes?
[09:47] <niksavel> I'd have to time it
[09:48] <niksavel> it's just an approx
[09:48] <cpk1> jax31: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34718/
[09:48] <biki> does anyone know if newest release of ubuntu have 3d support built in? (i mean ATI / nvidia drivers)
[09:48] <abes> niksavel: u sure that power manage. prefs are set-up correctly - right? double check it ;]
[09:48] <niksavel> I quadruple checked it
[09:48] <abes> ok
[09:49] <niksavel> it's set to never on both ac and battery state
[09:49] <abes> hmmm
[09:49] <niksavel> as well as screensaver turned off
[09:49] <abes> niksavel: maybe BIOS has something to do with it? like some power saving mode [ON]  or something similar?
[09:49] <biki> anyone?
[09:49] <abes> !3d | biki
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <niksavel> abes: don't think so...
[09:50] <niksavel> abes: it's a pretty simple and cheap laptop :)
[09:50] <abes> niksavel: try checking that though...
[09:50] <jedix> this is funny
[09:50] <niksavel> abes: I will, but I seriously doubt it...  windows (dual boot) work okay
[09:50] <abes> Does anyone have an idea of why wouldnt DVDs play although I have the latest libdvdcss2 and w32codecs?
[09:50] <jax31> cpk1: It seems as your cd/dvd is hdc instead of hdd. Try using /dec/hdc and report back if that helped.
[09:51] <biki> huh
[09:51] <biki> :(
[09:51] <cpk1> it doesnt =\
[09:51] <abes> niksavel: that's different then...
[09:51] <kalemika> Hey,  my system hangs on bootup when it's trying to mount my root drive, anyone have any ideas?
[09:51] <cpk1> nevermiond it did
[09:51] <cpk1> from root login
[09:52] <dreamer> can anyboy tell me how I can see what actually happened to my desktop? what log-files are most important to check ?
[09:52] <dreamer> I can still SSH to it, but X and the KB don't respond
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> dreamer: /var/log/Xorg.0.log /var/log/message and ~/.xsession-errors (the last one is least important)
[09:52] <niksavel> abes: the situation forces me to boot to windows when I want to watch a movie...  I seriously don't like that
[09:52] <dreamer> ok, thnx
[09:52] <dreamer> reset for now So I can work on the pc again
[09:53] <BenjaminPannell> how do I mount an External HDD to be Read & Write capable
[09:53] <cpk1> jax31: wierd, sudo didnt work but from root login it did
[09:53] <niksavel> abes: and I'm pretty close to removing windows alltogether....
[09:53] <dreamer> I'll put the logs in a pastebin if anyone wants to check :#
[09:53] <abes> niksavel: have u checked this thread? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-170920.html
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> BenjaminPannell: what filesystem is on it?
[09:53] <jax31> cpk1: you are member of the cdrom group? "cat /etc/group |  grep cdrom should" contain your username.
[09:53] <BenjaminPannell> ntfs
[09:53] <fyrestrtr> jax31: easier to just type 'groups' :)
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> BenjaminPannell: you need to install the ntfs-3g driver.
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> !ntfs-3g | BenjaminPannell
[09:54] <ubotu> BenjaminPannell: ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[09:54] <mcscruff> Is there a way to run/emulate windows iis on ubuntu
[09:54] <abes> Anyone knows a way to disable DPMS permanently?
[09:54] <kalemika> Can someone assist me with my bootup issue? Ubuntu hangs when either checking my root drive or mounting it.
[09:54] <cpk1> jax31: yup
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> mcscruff: are you trying to run an asp application?
[09:55] <mcscruff> yes
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> mcscruff: there is chillisoft asp, but I don't think its free.
[09:55] <fyrestrtr> mcscruff: you can always run xp pro in a vm and run iis on there.
[09:55] <mcscruff> fyrestrtr, ok, cheers i'll have a look
[09:55] <jax31> mcscruff: wmplayer
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> kalemika: sounds like a problem with your hard disk?
[09:56] <kalemika> fyrestrtr: It's not.
[09:56] <enyc> I / friend are obsserving what appoars to be a problem with edgy - the 'desktop sharing' (built-in vnc verver) -- when this is switched on via system>preferences>remote_desktop -- this works, but wen than machine is then REBOOTED, and auto-login, the vnc server does _NOT_ work (gives 'authentication failed' when using a password), and will not work untils the password in re-entered in the system>preferences>remote_desktop window -- has anybody seen this -- as
[09:56] <kalemika> fyrestrtr: I can do EVERYTHING fine booting into the repair mode.
[09:56] <fyrestrtr> kalemika: is it check the filesystem?
[09:57] <kalemika> fyrestrtr: Yeah, it's right after that before it would mount the disk.
[09:57] <tomyeah> is anyone using dmraid with nvidia (nvraid) software raid 0 ?
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> kalemika: then let it be, its just doing a filesystem check.
[09:57] <kalemika> fyrestrtr: I believe it started when I disabled ACPI
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> kalemika: is it giving you the 'filesystem has been mounted more than 30 times, doing a file system check' message?
[09:58] <kalemika> fyrstrtr: No. All activity stops and I'm just staring at text. I can move the typing cursor around and type, too.
[09:58] <niksavel> abes: thanks...  I have the same setup as the folks in that thread...  it would seem it's an XGL/compiz/fglrx problem
[09:58] <niksavel> abes: it would really seem to be a much better idea to run linux with an nvidia card
[09:58] <fyrestrtr> kalemika: what is the last message?
[09:59] <abes> niksavel: try the steps suggested there and get back if it worked... (and yeah nvidia seems to be more "userfriendly")
[09:59] <jax31> cpk1: Did you correct /etc/fstab? Which errmsg do you get now.
[09:59] <kalemika> fyrestrtr: It's something along the lines of checking filesystem or verifying filesystem followed by an [OK]
[10:00] <abes> Anyone can help with the DVD playback? I installed libdvdcss2, w32codecs and a whole bunch of players (Totem-xine, VLC, MPlayer, Ogle) and nothing plays it - some of them return an error, the other just quit... THANKS!
[10:00] <jax31> enyc: man vncpasswd
[10:01] <kalemika> fyrestrtr: This may seem a really dumb question, but if I download a like, patch object for my kernel, do I need to recompile it?
[10:01] <enyc> jax31: hrrm that is used whon starting xvnc manually ?
[10:01] <dreamer> where can I upload textfiles to a pastebin ?
[10:01] <dreamer> this takes waay too long to copy/paste :/
[10:01] <kalemika> fyrestrtr: Are you leaving?
[10:02] <enyc> jax31: but what about when using the system>preferences>remote_desktop ??
[10:02] <abes> !pastebin | dreamer
[10:02] <ubotu> dreamer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:03] <cpk1> jax31: no, but i think i know why it might have changed, the cdrom used to be plugged into the slave socket of my cable and i switched it right before i went to vacation
[10:03] <jax31> enyc: I used vncpasswd on some workstations and I can connect fine after a  (remote) reboot.
[10:03] <dreamer> abes: the problem is I can't upload there, I have to copy/paste manually, which is a major drag :/
[10:03] <abes> dreamer: are you trying to upload multiple files at once?
[10:04] <dreamer> abes: no, I want to paste my /var/log/Xorg.0.log but it's kind of long
[10:04] <jax31> cpk1: So it works now after you have edited /etc/fstab ?
[10:04] <CybersouL> how do you enable ssh
[10:05] <noiesmo> sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start CybersouL
[10:05] <CybersouL> thanks
[10:05] <abes> dreamer: makes sense... hmm... how about copying it as .txt and just uploading it to some FTP?
[10:05] <dreamer> hmm
[10:06] <dreamer> how can I copy it as a txt then ?
[10:07] <abes> dreamer: cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log /var/log/Xorg_log.txt
[10:07] <dreamer> ahh thnx
[10:08] <abes> dreamer: then u can just use http://freefileupload.net/ and it will generate a link with ur file automatically
[10:08] <abes> dreamer: so u can give a link to somebody so they can check it out (links are quite loooong so use www.tinyurl.com to make them short)
[10:09] <dreamer> abes: I can host it on my server too
[10:10] <dreamer> that was a good idea :)
[10:10] <budluva> how do i change which application opens my .torrent files? right now its set to btdownload and i just install qtorrent
[10:10] <abes> dreamer: so then problem solved... :P
[10:10] <budluva> but its automatically opening with btdownload
[10:11] <abes> dreamer: and changing it to .txt is just so it displays it instead of tryin to download - you can copy it to .html instead of .txt too so you are 100% on a safe side :]
[10:11] <dreamer> http://pimpbak.zapto.org/~dreamer/dingen/Xorg_log.txt
[10:11] <dreamer> no it works :)
[10:11] <jax31> Cybersoul: server or client? sudo apt-get install openssh-server enable the server by default.  For better security move the port to another number. Remember to specify this new port in the client.
[10:11] <abes> dreamer: so you're good :]
[10:11] <dreamer> I'll do /var/log/messages too
[10:12] <RawSushi> http://webpages.charter.net/bobad/gnomescreenshot.png  anyone like this screenshot?
[10:12] <abes> dreamer: well... in generall... whatever u need to share just upload it to public_html change the perms to 755 and ur good
[10:12] <abes> RawSushi: Yes, it's a very pretty screenshot... ;]
[10:12] <RawSushi> thanks
[10:12] <abes> RawSushi: I like it ;]
[10:12] <RawSushi> I just weant to add something to it
[10:13] <RawSushi> make it easier to get around on
[10:13] <abes> RawSushi: but the orientation "windozed" already ;P
[10:13] <RawSushi> like give it a nice launcher
[10:13] <RawSushi> man I was afraid someone would say that
[10:13] <RawSushi> I want it less like windows
[10:13] <dreamer> abes: change the perms ?
[10:13] <abes> RawSushi: so leave it as default... bar at the top... bar at the bottom... and ur set ;]
[10:14] <A[D] minS> how i can mount file.nrg
[10:14] <RawSushi> I want it high tech looking
[10:14] <abes> dreamer: well yes... because sometimes files have permissions to be viewed just by the root (some log files for example), so you want to make sure that others can view them... that's why you change it to (rwxr-xr-x)
[10:15] <abes> RawSushi: Hmm... it looks high tech ;]  But what u need XaoS there for? does it make it more high tech? :P
[10:15] <A[D] minS> !nrg
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nrg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <RawSushi> nah I just wanted to put it there for the screenshot
[10:15] <abes> A[D] minS: you may need to convert it to ISO
[10:15] <RawSushi> I was playing around with it earlier
[10:16] <A[D] minS> abes: how i can convert nrg to iso  :(
[10:16] <RawSushi> I guess you're right.  looks high tech enough
[10:16] <dreamer> abes: but when the txt's are in ~/public_html/ that doesn't really matter does it ?
[10:16] <jax31> A[D] minS: apt-get install nrg2iso
[10:16] <mnepton> A[D] minS: i'll tell you, but you have to promise never to use Nero again. ;)
[10:16] <RawSushi> I just want everything to work
[10:17] <RawSushi> what would be a nice launcher?
[10:17] <abes> dreamer: well... as long as txt's dont contain your root username and pass then not :P
[10:17] <dreamer> so, my X crashed and I got this in my log and messages: http://pimpbak.zapto.org/~dreamer/dingen/Xorg_log.txt  http://pimpbak.zapto.org/~dreamer/dingen/messages.txt
[10:17] <Shi> hi
[10:17] <A[D] minS> mnepton: i haven't nero to use it :)
[10:17] <A[D] minS> mnepton: i just got this file from ma friend
[10:17] <A[D] minS> thats why am asking :D
[10:18] <A[D] minS> thx jax31
[10:18] <dreamer> one weird thing is that X recognisez my usb-optical-mouse as a wacom-device :/
[10:19] <mnepton> A[D] minS: are you in Windows or Ubuntu?
[10:19] <dreamer> I keep deleting it from the conf but it keeps showng up :/
[10:19] <abes> A[D] minS: hmmm... so first you need to get it to ISO then u can mount it.... let me figure the conversion out
[10:19] <A[D] minS> mnepton: ubuntu
[10:19] <abes> A[D] minS: here is how to mount ISOs: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountisofileswithoutburning
[10:19] <A[D] minS> i already install nrg2iso and converting now
[10:19] <A[D] minS> :D
[10:19] <A[D] minS> abes: Thx for help  :D
[10:19] <abes> A[D] minS: so you are set...
[10:19] <abes> !iso | A[D] minS
[10:19] <ubotu> A[D] minS: To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[10:20] <mnepton> A[D] minS: dd if=image.nrg of=image.iso bs=2048 skip=150
[10:20] <A[D] minS> mnepton: thx this is new idea D:
[10:20] <A[D] minS> :D
[10:21] <dreamer> so can anybody help with my X crashing every 2 hours ? :/
[10:21] <abes> Anyone has an idea how to watch DVDs? I have libdvdcss2 and w32codecs - still no luck...
[10:21] <A[D] minS> i have another problem
[10:21] <A[D] minS> my sound in laptop working good
[10:21] <A[D] minS> but mic socket not working
[10:21] <A[D] minS> so what is wrong ?
[10:22] <abes> A[D] minS: volume...?
[10:22] <abes> dreamer: what do you mean by crashing? drops u to the terminal?
[10:22] <mnepton> A[D] minS: the mic is muted by default in ALSA. use alsamixer from the temrinal to unmute it.
[10:22] <A[D] minS> abes: i tested my with all ways
[10:22] <A[D] minS> and no sound
[10:22] <A[D] minS> mnepton: i did
[10:22] <dreamer> abes: well, the screen freezes, I can still _move_ the mouse, nothing else
[10:23] <A[D] minS> and make it full up but nothing i can hear
[10:23] <abes> A[D] minS: defected mic?
[10:23] <mnepton> A[D] minS: do not have any sound apps open except for the app you are testing
[10:23] <A[D] minS> i have in alsamixer mic boss
[10:23] <dreamer> I can still SSH to the machine, but the KB is dead (so I can't do RSEIUB)
[10:23] <A[D] minS> there is no mic as in my PC
[10:23] <abes> A[D] minS: have u tried another mic though?
[10:23] <A[D] minS> mnepton: yes
[10:24] <A[D] minS> tried 3 mics till now
[10:24] <A[D] minS> and the point is they working under windows :D
[10:24] <Shi> abes what's exactly the pb you have with DVDs ?
[10:25] <abes> dreamer: read this (http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=426858) starting at post #9
[10:25] <dreamer> ok
[10:26] <abes> Shi: regardless of the player I use all it plays is the production company logo thing... and then either quits/stops
[10:26] <abes> Shi: only Movie Player is asking if I'm trying to "Watch an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?"
[10:26] <abes> Shi: by movie player i mean Totem-xine
[10:26] <Shi> ok
[10:27] <Shi> you sure you have libdvdcss and stuff installed ?
[10:27] <abes> Shi: yeah... double checked.. added the required repositories then installed libdvdcss and w32codecs... run apt-get upgrade - everything up to date
[10:28] <abes> Shi: tried different discs too... no luck
[10:28] <abes> Shi: somebody suggested that it may be a region issue, but when I've had windoze on this lappy it played good... so i think it's more software/config issue
[10:29] <justMatt> f1ux#1
[10:29] <dreamer> abes: I'm not suro what to change exactly .. I'll compare with my Xorg.conf
[10:30] <asabil> abes, tried mplayer ?
[10:30] <abes> dreamer: whatever u do make sure you make a backup copies before changing :P
[10:30] <abes> asabil: yes I have...
[10:30] <Shi> :\
[10:30] <asabil> :(
[10:30] <abes> asabil: just quits...
[10:30] <asabil> abes, you should report a bug then
[10:31] <abes> asabil: but I am not sure where the bug is.... :P
[10:31] <asabil> report a bug about totem then
[10:31] <abes> asabil: its not any of the players im sure since so many different ones failed...
[10:33] <grol> does someone has experiences with ibm5250 sessions for iseries
[10:34] <A[D] minS> now my main problem is i can't access my mic from laptop
[10:34] <A[D] minS> so i can't use skype :S
[10:34] <abes> A[D] minS: as before... u sure the mic is not defective?
[10:35] <efox> how can i disable my internal wireless card ?
[10:35] <efox> i want to add a pcmia one but the internal one is 'gettin in the way'
[10:35] <abes> Why would xine say "There is no configuration option available in this user experience level" in the setup tabs?
[10:35] <abes> efox: start from the BIOS
[10:36] <A[D] minS> abes: am sure mic working cuz am using same mic under windows
[10:36] <dreamer> abes: that's  lot of code in that post that I don't have
[10:36] <Shi> abes that would be because you haven't chosen the good config level
[10:36] <dreamer> with me there are anly 3 lines with: Identifier, Driver and BusID
[10:36] <Shi> choose "Master of the Universe"
[10:36] <Dheeraj_k> how to install j2ee server and tomcat server in ubuntu?
[10:36] <abes> dreamer: hmm... I am not too familiar with that problem... so all i can suggest is experimenting, but remember - always make copies of the originals!
[10:36] <efox> abes: its dual booted with windows, i want it to work in windows, just not with linux ( i have a separate card for that)
[10:37] <Shi> "Master of the known universe" actually
[10:37] <abes> Shi: makes sense... fixed :P
[10:37] <Shi> :D
[10:37] <dreamer> abes: yeah :/
[10:38] <Dheeraj_k> any ubuntu freak online? please help me
[10:38] <dreamer> anybody else see anything in the log/mossages? http://pimpbak.zapto.org/~dreamer/dingen/Xorg_log.txt   http://pimpbak.zapto.org/~dreamer/dingen/messages.txt
[10:38] <A[D] minS> ok i have Qustion.. i have File.ISO = 660 MB but when i mounted it found it over than 1.6 GB
[10:39] <A[D] minS> so i want to edit some files then write the same data to cd
[10:39] <A[D] minS> can i do it or no way :D
[10:39] <Zazrael> How do I update my library cache if I've installed a library, but the makefile is horrible and didn't update ld.so.cache?
[10:39] <abes> efox: how about just going to System -> Administration -> Network Tools and deactivating the onboard one?
[10:39] <Dheeraj_k> how to install j2ee server and tomcat server in ubuntu?
[10:40] <abes> A[D] minS: you'd need to copy all the content of the .ISO to some directory, edit and then burn... but I don't think u can edit .ISO on the run... it's like trying to edit a CD ;]
[10:40] <Dheeraj_k> you cand do that in windows using iso pro
[10:41] <grol> Dheeraj_k: try with synaptic
[10:41] <Dheeraj_k> grol: didn't found that's why I posted here :(
[10:41] <A[D] minS> abes: ok am talking about another point when i mounted da iso i found the directory 1.6 GB so how i will write 1.6 on CD 700 mb
[10:41] <asabil> A[D] minS, of course you can
[10:41] <A[D] minS> lol
[10:41] <abes> Dheeraj_k: hey! i still didnt get the DVDs running :(
[10:42] <A[D] minS> that what am talking about
[10:42] <grol> Dheeraj_k: have you checkd the repis.?
[10:42] <Dheeraj_k> yeah I did
[10:42] <asabil> A[D] minS, just mount, edit your file inside the directory, and then umount and burn
[10:42] <abes> A[D] minS: are you sure that the 1.6gb dir is the one where the ISO was mounted? shouldn't be like that
[10:42] <Dheeraj_k> sudo apt-get install j2ee
[10:42] <A[D] minS> sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[10:43] <A[D] minS> thats why am asking
[10:43] <Shi> apt-getI found tomcat and J2ee in my repositories Dheeraj_k
[10:43] <asabil> abes, it can be a squashfs iso
[10:43] <asabil> A[D] minS, what iso is it ?
[10:43] <Dheeraj_k>  Couldn't find package tomcat
[10:43] <Shi> can't see any reason why you couldn't find them as well
[10:43] <A[D] minS> XP sp3 lol
[10:43] <Dheeraj_k> Reading package lists... Done
[10:43] <Dheeraj_k> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:43] <Dheeraj_k> E: Couldn't find package tomcat
[10:43] <noiesmo> !tomcat
[10:43] <A[D] minS> i am editing it to put my sata driver
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tomcat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:43] <asabil> A[D] minS, sorry I can't help doing illegal things
[10:43] <abes> Shi: Xine returned: "The source can't be read. Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain date (e.g: not disc in drive). (Error reading NAV packet.)"
[10:44] <Shi> tomcat5 - Java Servlet 2.4 engine with JSP 2.0 support
[10:44] <A[D] minS> loooool asabil ok thx
[10:44] <Ellen> hello
[10:44] <asabil> A[D] minS, why are you loling ? I am serious
[10:44] <Shi> abes check that th PATH to your drive is correct in xine
[10:44] <Dheeraj_k> shi: but how can  I install those package in ubuntu?
[10:44] <A[D] minS> asabil: ok i have anothe qutsion
[10:44] <abes> Shi: but it started playing the production company logo...
[10:44] <grol> how to connect IBM iSeries with ubuntu using 5250-Session?
[10:44] <A[D] minS> if i mounted file.iso
[10:44] <asabil> yes ?
[10:44] <Shi> urf :/
[10:45] <A[D] minS> and chnaged something in data then unmounted
[10:45] <A[D] minS> iso will have my updates?
[10:45] <asabil> yes ?
[10:45] <abes> Shi: there is definately something wrong with libdvdcss2... but what?
[10:45] <asabil> iirc yes, A[D] minS
[10:45] <Shi> dunno :/
[10:45] <A[D] minS> iirc ?
[10:45] <asabil> if i recall correctly
[10:45] <Shi> I had the same kind of problems on debian and breezy
[10:45] <A[D] minS> ok
[10:46] <A[D] minS> i will check thx bro
[10:46] <rhkfin> A great (open & free) book about what open source is, have a look at http://www.openlife.cc/
[10:46] <Shi> Dheeraj_k try apt-get install tomcat5
[10:47] <noiesmo> Dheeraj_k, Shi you need universe for tomcat5
[10:47] <Dheeraj_k> ah it worked :) now how to install j2ee?
[10:48] <asabil> yw A[D] minS
[10:48] <asabil> A[D] minS, otherwise you can still create an iso from the directory
[10:50] <Shi> Dheeraj_k u know french ?
[10:50] <Dheeraj_k> shi : no I don't
[10:51] <Shi> I found a tutorial, but it's french
[10:51] <Dheeraj_k> oh
[10:51] <Shi> ok
[10:52] <Shi> Dheeraj_k you'll have to install sun-java5-jdk
[10:52] <Dheeraj_k> SHI: can you post some info from that tut?
[10:53] <Shi> sure
[10:54] <Dheeraj_k> shi: it is already installed in my pc
[10:55] <serenase> hi, just testing...
[10:55] <Dheeraj_k> j2ee is required to run servlet
[10:55] <Malician> does anybody know what could cause ubuntu to crash at the point where it's creating user accounts?
[10:57] <Frem> Malician: no, but you can try the adduser & useradd commands.
[10:58] <Malician> I'm talking about in the initial install
[10:58] <Malician> I'm desperately trying to make it install and it just won't work
[11:00] <asabil> anyone saw this : http://www.ryzom.org/ ?
[11:00] <Shi> Dheeraj_k take a look at your /notices
[11:01] <justin__> where can I find a good https (ssl) tutorial to install the certificates??
[11:01] <abes> how do i install the flash player for firefox 2.0?
[11:03] <efox> abes: sorry bout the delay, i tried doing that but its not listed there. It is under device manager though and I know its partialy working because when i perform "iwlist" it tells me of a few availables networks
[11:03] <jimmyx1> /slap acetoxy
[11:03] <jimmyx1> why doesn't that work
[11:03] <jimmyx1> lol
[11:03] <abes> efox: how about ifconfig ath0 (or whatever it's called) down
[11:04] <abes> Shi: thought you may wanna take a look at this (DVD issue): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34729/
[11:04] <efox> abes: ive gone through all of them, at least what i know, wlan0, ath0...eth0 is the only one left
[11:04] <abes> efox: do u have the PCMCIA plugged in now?
[11:05] <Shi> thx abarbaccia
[11:05] <Shi> :/
[11:05] <Shi> thx abes
[11:05] <abes> Anyone with DVD knowledge: can you take a look at my totem "log" and tell me what may be wrong? (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34729/)
[11:05] <abes> Shi: I thank You! :)
[11:05] <abes> efox: because looks like wlan0 and ath0 are two different cards
[11:05] <boink> efox: is that on edgy?
[11:06] <boink> I had a real pain in getting the wireless on edgy going.
[11:06] <efox> abes: im such a nooob. I think it was the pcmia. When i popped it out, and tried iwconfig, it said no card found...when i popped it back in..it found the essid
[11:06] <efox> abes: dapper...or drapper..whatever its called
[11:06] <boink> dapper
[11:06] <efox> thanks
[11:06] <boink> hmm .. dapper is quite good with wireless
[11:06] <efox> dapper
[11:07] <efox> i originally had the broadcom (internal), but i borred my buddies dlink G630
[11:07] <boink> hmm .. I have a netgear WG511T. that really works well on open source systems
[11:07] <abes> efox: so when u have no pcmcia only eth0 is visible?
[11:08] <abes> !flash
[11:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:08] <efox> abes: if  i go to network tools, only eth0 shows up
[11:09] <Shi> efox have you tried to see what appears with ifconfig -a ?
[11:09] <abes> efox: good... therefore the onboard is disabled
[11:10] <boink> how about lspci ?
[11:10] <efox> shi: eth0, sit0 and wlan0  :S
[11:11] <abes> efox: but is the pcmcia plugged in now?
[11:11] <efox> abes: yes
[11:11] <efox> its flashing and everything
[11:11] <Ernz> Here's a stupid question, but I'm sure someone here will know the answer. I know that the new version of Ubuntu, Edgy comes with this thing AIGLX or soemthing along those lines. And there is soemthing called beryl that allows you to transmogrify your desktop into a cube and spin it round and jazz like that. How do I do this?
[11:12] <abes> efox: so try unplugging the pcmcia and run "ifconfig -a"
[11:12] <Ernz> What dubry do I type into that thingamajig to make it cubify?
[11:12] <efox> abes: wlan0 goes away, the rest remain
[11:13] <Shi> so pcmcia is recognized as wlan0
[11:13] <Shi> try and assign it an IP
[11:13] <abes> Shi: have you had a chance to look at that totem paste?
[11:13] <mnepton> Ernz: don't do it. seriously. let it go.
[11:13] <Shi> (is "assign" the right word here ?)
[11:13] <mahtavamatt> Enrz: can't remember the address but if you search google for AIGLX+EDGY+BERYL you'll get the answer
[11:13] <ubuntu> slt
[11:13] <Ernz> mnepton: Sounds like you had a bad experience?
[11:14] <abes> Anyone can tell me how to install the flash and java plugins for Firefox?
[11:14] <Shi> yes abes and I can't see why it won't work
[11:14] <mahtavamatt> mnepton: why not?
[11:14] <mnepton> Ernz: not at all, as i have never tried it.
[11:14] <Ernz> !aiglx
[11:14] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[11:14] <ubuntu> parl franais
[11:14] <Ernz> !beryl
[11:14] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:14] <mnepton> !fr > ubuntu
[11:14] <ubuntu> koi?
[11:14] <ubuntu> ki parle francais?
[11:14] <Shi> you have to download them and then install them amnually abes (for firefox)
[11:15] <kaptengu> Ernz: join #ubuntu-xgl
[11:15] <mnepton> ubuntu: nous parlons francais en #ubuntu-fr. cette canal est anglais seulement.
[11:15] <abes> Shi: ok... thanks
[11:15] <Ernz> kaptengu, Merci bucket.
[11:15] <abes> bucket? lol
[11:15] <Ernz> Oui, c'est une francais, innit.
[11:15] <mnepton> Ernz: none of the compositing solutions for X11 are finished. they are all works in progress, and as such are unreliable and greatly decrease system stability.
[11:16] <Ernz> mnepton, thats all I need to know.
[11:16] <efox> shi: sorry, but how do i assign it an ip
[11:16] <abes> Pourquoi pas beaucoup?
[11:17] <Ernz> beaucoup: oui, that's what I parler'd.
[11:17] <Shi> efox if you have a router or something running a DHCP server it should be automatic
[11:17] <Ernz> :)
[11:17] <Shi> if not first try dhclient wlan0
[11:17] <boitono> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/47768  bug number 47768 has yet to be resolved and I am be afflicted, and news/help would be appreciated.
[11:17] <abes> Ernz... lol... but is "bucket" a slang for "beaucoup"???
[11:18] <efox> shi: would i still be able to assign it an ip even if im already connected hardwired ?
[11:18] <valehru> hey guys...I have a Presario v3000 and Im running dapper...however the headphone jack is not working and when the headphones are plugged in sound still comes from the main speakers...any help would be appreciated.
[11:18] <Shi> yep efox
[11:18] <efox> shi: if not, ill disconnect and try it
[11:18] <efox> oh..ok
[11:18] <Ernz> Abes: Must be. :)
[11:19] <Malician> what's the default root password on a livecd?
[11:19] <boitono> And what really sucks is that the bug has been open since may of this year!
[11:19] <efox> shi:....i...i....got an ip
[11:19] <Shi> efox hurray ! \o/
[11:20] <EdLin> Malician: there is none, Ubuntu is like a Mac, it runs sudo and rootless.
[11:20] <abes> Is flashplugin the only thing u need to get off synaptic to get flash in Firefox? Did it and still no luck