[18:13] <newtothis> so the ubuntu forums are really down?  or is that page about the passwords being stolen put up by... someone else?
[18:13] <histo> newtothis: They are down
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> abusing the mods really goes a long way, lol
[18:13] <WorstCaseOntario> I don't know if this is related but after the crash another program I had claimed to be running when it was not. something to do with a "lockfile"
[18:14] <WorstCaseOntario> how do I check to see if the daemon is running
[18:14] <histo> WorstCaseOntario: sudo service smbd status
[18:14] <LucidDreamZzZ> could someone please tell me the software center path in Ubuntu?
[18:14] <histo> WorstCaseOntario: you typo'd it before
[18:14] <histo> LucidDreamZzZ: type which software-center in a terminal
[18:14] <newtothis> ah jeez, anyway.. quick question...  So i'm the only user on my Ubuntu installation and I'm the administrator, and i recently installed.  but i'm not root?
[18:14] <napsc> WorstCaseOntario: ps aux | grep -e "smb."
[18:15] <histo> !sudo | newtothis
[18:15] <newtothis> if i was "root" would i not have to type in "sudo" for all those things
[18:15] <LucidDreamZzZ> okie ill try that thanks
[18:15] <WorstCaseOntario> sudo service smbd status
[18:15] <WorstCaseOntario> smbd start/running, process 6152
[18:15] <histo> newtothis: root doesn't need sudo
[18:15] <histo> WorstCaseOntario: sudo smbtree
[18:15] <histo> !root | newtothis
[18:16] <newtothis> hmm?
[18:16] <newtothis> oh
[18:16] <newtothis> so is root discourage because it's like... unbridled power?
[18:16] <newtothis> *discouraged
[18:16] <histo> newtothis: pretty much yes
[18:16] <gordonjcp> newtothis: kind of, yeah
[18:16] <WorstCaseOntario> whoa. now smbtree is giving info. what just happend
[18:16] <newtothis> oh thank god i actually get that lol
[18:16] <gordonjcp> newtothis: you can set a root password
[18:17] <gordonjcp> newtothis: don't do that, though, it's silly and obsolete
[18:17] <gordonjcp> newtothis: using root privs is basically a mistake amplifier
[18:17] <newtothis> right right i see, i've read those things i just wanted to make sure, that first question i typed
[18:17] <gordonjcp> newtothis: you *will* end up blowing away stuff you didn't mean to, this is going to happen
[18:17] <newtothis> gordonjcp:  haha wow that's
[18:17] <newtothis> xD
[18:17] <gordonjcp> newtothis: get that through your head
[18:17] <gordonjcp> newtothis: you're going to kill your machine
[18:17] <ichat> gordonjcp,  - why not use sudo su than for the duration of your session :)
[18:18] <OerHeks> newtothis, if you do "sudo -i" your terminal session would be root until closing.
[18:18] <newtothis> no yeah i'm just going to leave things the way they are but good to know
[18:18] <Casey> newtothis: use the *root* and you will be doing data recovery like myself :(
[18:18] <CheckDavid> Hello =)
[18:18] <gordonjcp> newtothis: when you're using root, either with a root login or sudo, you can nuke your machine in far more efficient and creative ways
[18:18] <newtothis> OerHeks:   ohh!  nice thanks
[18:18] <sam113101> guys
[18:18] <joshu_> MonkeyDust hi been away just saw your message about notify-send
[18:19] <sam113101> how do I fix the font on gtk 2 apps?
[18:19] <CheckDavid> I think around 1 year ago I tried installing Ubuntu, successfully. I am not totally positive, but I think it came in Portuguese, my countries language, but I wish it to be in English, I am not absolutely sure that this was the case, since I did this one year ago.
[18:19] <newtothis> is there like a unanimous ... "best"  irc client? btw i'm using the freenode site and it's hard to follow along a little..
[18:19] <CheckDavid> Does ubuntu try to detect the language when you are trying to install?
[18:19] <joshu_> MonkeyDust what I'm wondering is it enough to install notify-osd to get pop ups in the same way as in a standard ubuntu install, e.g. when you connect to ethernet etc?
[18:20] <gordonjcp> CheckDavid: no, but it makes some reasonable guesses once you give it a locale selection
[18:20] <gordonjcp> newtothis: not really
[18:20] <LucidDreamZzZ> hmm i thought xwininfo did more sorry my bad
[18:20] <ichat> what is the way to send the output from one command to the other command for example    send the output from  sudo apt-get update   to pastebinit
[18:20] <rogier> How do i bring the close button from right to left? Ubuntu/ Gnome 3.
[18:20] <newtothis> thanks for clearing that up everybody,  also is there a way to not be root but still have to type in your password everytime?
[18:20] <DJones> !irc | newtothis There isn't really a best, its what suits you, this link should give you a few suggestions to try though,
[18:20] <gordonjcp> newtothis: if you ask six people what the best IRC client is, you'll get nine mutually contradictory answers
[18:20] <CheckDavid> gordonjcp, oh, and then does it attempt to set it as the main OS language?
[18:20] <gordonjcp> newtothis: I like running irssi which is a purely text client, and I run it with a thing called tmux
[18:20] <WorstCaseOntario> histo thanks I don't know what that did but SAMBA is working now
[18:21] <gordonjcp> CheckDavid: I can't remember now, I think you set language like English (GB) and it will assume you have a UK keyboard and timezone
[18:21] <newtothis> histo:  i see,  yeah i was expecting that, had to ask though, it's like with a lot of computer related stuff i'm finding
[18:21] <trism> joshu_: notify-osd is just the daemon that displays the notifications, the notifications are sent by various apps (so if you are using network-manager you will probably get those ones)
[18:21] <rogier> also can i enable the task bar? I'm used to gnome 3 classic.
[18:21] <gordonjcp> newtothis: tmux and irssi is great because you can run it on a server like I'm doing, and detach and reattach at will
[18:21] <CheckDavid> gordonjcp, I have latin keyboard, but I do wish for it to be in English.
[18:21] <mnme_> hi guys, i have a question: i added a partition (ntfs-3g for win compatibility) to fstab and the automount works, but i can't use the trash, i need to delete files permamently. what could be the problem?
[18:21] <CheckDavid> gordonjcp, it = os language
[18:22] <LucidDreamZzZ> ok this is exactly what i needed the software-center has those check boxes awesome thanks histo!!
[18:22] <histo> WorstCaseOntario: it did nothing other than check the status of the samba daemon. Perhaps you weren't using sudo with smbtree before
[18:22] <gordonjcp> newtothis: if you could see what I'm doing, you'd see I've left the house and I'm now connected to IRC from the PC in my van
[18:22] <newtothis> gordonjcp:  ... :(  i do not know what those things "mean" lol but i'll get there lol
[18:22] <gordonjcp> newtothis: notice how you didn't see me disconnect and reconnect?
[18:22] <newtothis> ah okay
[18:22] <newtothis> on your own server okay
[18:22] <LucidDreamZzZ> menus!!
[18:22] <gordonjcp> yup
[18:23] <joshu_> trism hi just tested in a VM on my ubuntu mini install and it seems to work.
[18:23] <gordonjcp> newtothis: so, I have a server somewhere in a hosting farm in London
[18:23] <gordonjcp> newtothis: I'm in the house now, ssh'ed into it over ADSL
[18:23] <newtothis> 0_0
[18:23] <gordonjcp> newtothis: at the same time the PC in my van is ssh'ed into it over 3G
[18:23] <sam113101> I don't like doing this
[18:23] <ichat> gordonjcp, - your using irrsi as a bouncer?
[18:23] <newtothis> i need to learn more... about... stuff..
[18:23] <sam113101> I prefer to use a bouncer
[18:24] <gordonjcp> ichat: a what?
[18:24] <sam113101> tmux + weechat over ssh was kind of slow when I tried it
[18:24] <WorstCaseOntario> well I did not use sudo but it still asked for my password when I typed in smbtree, and I could not browse shared folders and now it works. weird
[18:24] <m6121> Greetings, all.
[18:24] <ichat> sam113101,  - ty, now i understand what hes doing
[18:24] <mnme_> nobody knows why i can't use trash on my automounted mtfs-3g partition?
[18:25] <histo> sam113101: works fine here
[18:25] <ichat> gordonjcp,  instead of runing an irc client on my server im running a cashing irc proxy instead
[18:25] <gordonjcp> ichat: oh okay
[18:25] <newtothis> two more burning questions guys: 1) can you enable 'ctrl+c' and 'ctr+v' in Terminal???  2)any way to disable not being prompted for the password all the time, but still not being root?
[18:25] <gordonjcp> ichat: I use tmux for running mutt and a bunch of other stuff
[18:25] <histo> newtothis: try ctrl+shift+v
[18:25] <m6121> I am looking to buy an external drive.  The last time I bought a component, a Dell printer that states "Linux" it took me 3 months to get a driver.   Does anyone know if a "Western Digital Elements 2TB External Hard Drive" will work with Linux, or is there "One" that you should get?
[18:25] <ichat> gordonjcp, - i see
[18:26] <newtothis> histo:   sweet jesus!!!!
[18:26] <gordonjcp> newtothis: copy and paste are ctrl-shift-c and ctrl-shift-v
[18:26] <gordonjcp> newtothis: ctrl-c uses something else
[18:26] <gordonjcp> newtothis: also, just select stuff and middle-click to paste
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> newtothis, If it needs super user=admin you will have to use the password, it does not take long to get used to it.
[18:26] <newtothis> right right, i noticed. that ctrl c was like.. for.. to something else yea
[18:27] <histo> newtothis: yeah ctrl+c is to stop processing a command
[18:27] <gordonjcp> newtothis: ctrl-c is generally used as break
[18:27] <newtothis> wilee-nilee:  oh ok yeah i've made my password short for the speed, but so everyone just deals with that?
[18:27] <m6121> ctrl-c  =  'break
[18:27] <m6121> that is good to know, thanks
[18:27] <newtothis> histo:  gordonjcp   of course!!!  haha  i used that to stop my infinite loops
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> newtothis, If you have been running windows in admin you have gotten used to a faulty system is all. I started on open source so it seemed natural.
[18:28] <gordonjcp> newtothis: no no no you must have a 200-character password with a mix of upper case, lower case, numeric, punctuation, international phonetic alphabet and sanskrit symbols!
[18:28] <newtothis> wilee-nilee:  yeaahhh  i'm dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu,  in windows i disabled the security prompt thing
[18:28] <m6121> So does anyone have warm fuzzies about a Western Digital Elements 2TB External Hard Drive and Ubuntu, or, anyone have an "Oh, god, no" experience with that as an external drive?
[18:28] <gordonjcp> newtothis: and never write it down!
[18:28] <gordonjcp> newtothis: on the other hand, maybe no-one cares enough about you to break into your computer
[18:28] <m6121> (like for the sanskrit reference)
[18:29] <gordonjcp> newtothis: and a simple non-dictionary word password will suffice
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> newtothis, Really not a good idea, windows should be run in a standard and with the uac running.
[18:29] <newtothis> gordonjcp:  XD   lol   but how much danger are you in if your ubuntu password is like... oh idk...  one character long?  i mean  if  a hacker had that what... they could break me?
[18:29] <gordonjcp> newtothis: actually no
[18:29] <gordonjcp> no, chances are they wouldn't
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> anf fully backed up and imaged
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> and*
[18:29] <mryanbrown> whats a decent size for /boot ?
[18:29] <newtothis> wilee-nilee:  i see,  what you say rings true then, ubuntu is growing on me and yeah shame i've gotten used to a bad system
[18:29] <mryanbrown> is 500mb overkill with a 100mb /boot/efi
[18:29] <TheBrayn> mydogsnameisrudy: 200MB or so
[18:29] <gordonjcp> newtothis: for the simple reason that no-one would think you'd have such a fundamentally stupid password
[18:30] <LucidDreamZzZ> mryanbrown, 100mb
[18:30] <saiarcot895> mryanbrown: 100mb as well
[18:30] <TheBrayn> I always like to have a bit of extra space to keep it from running out of space when it's filled up with old kernel images
[18:30] <mryanbrown> 100mb /boot and 100mb /efi
[18:30] <mryanbrown> or 200mb /boot and 100mb /efi
[18:30] <gordonjcp> newtothis: have you ever realised you didn't have your keys, spent ten minutes trying to work out how to get in, then actually found the door was open anyway?
[18:30] <foobar2000> I have Ubuntu Server running in VirtualBox (the host is a MacBook Pro running OS X 10.7.5). In the Ubuntu Server VM, I can access www.google.com just fine but not code.google.com. Any idea what I can do to troubleshoot? I'd rather resolve the actual problem instead of just adding an entry to /etc/hosts
[18:30] <LucidDreamZzZ> unless you have a plan for dozens of images right
[18:30] <newtothis> gordonjcp:  really?  what if they bruteforced it, wouldn't the running time be wayyyyy shorter for them?
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> newtothis, It happens MS does not exactly inform its consumers, I like MS I hve W8, W7 and XP, but I run them like I would linux in general.
[18:30] <mryanbrown> i might have about 10 kernels yeah
[18:31] <gordonjcp> newtothis: aha, yes
[18:31] <mryanbrown> + gummiboot and prob grub2 alternating
[18:31] <gordonjcp> newtothis: but no-one would bother brute-forcing short passwords
[18:31] <m6121> "1-2-3-4-5?
[18:31] <joshu_> is it normal to not have an interfaces directory at /etc/network/interfaces ?
[18:31] <wilee-nilee> mryanbrown, Generally a boot partition is not needed.
[18:31] <mryanbrown> why do you say that
[18:31] <gordonjcp> newtothis: I'm actually tempted to set up a honeypot on a VM and see how long it takes to get broken with a single-character password :-D
[18:31] <mryanbrown> how else am i going to boot
[18:31] <saiarcot895> wilee-nilee: (U)EFI requires one
[18:31] <LucidDreamZzZ> make it read only
[18:31] <newtothis> lol  i'm afraid now...
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> mryanbrown, It is common knowledge all you need is the mbr in a msdos setup.
[18:32] <mryanbrown> lol mbr
[18:32] <mryanbrown> this is 2013 man
[18:32] <mryanbrown> gpt + uefi
[18:32] <newtothis> i'm going to change my password now
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> saiarcot895, Did you miss the GENERALLY?
[18:32] <saiarcot895> wilee-nilee: actually, I did; sorry about that
[18:33] <columb> How do I fix missing items from my unity bar? Missing: keyboard layout indicator, date&time. "Restore defaults" doesn't work. Can't enable them in unity tweak. http://i.imgur.com/oryxTSh.png
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> mryanbrown, gpt and uefi is nice but most of the world in 2013 is not using it.
[18:33] <LucidDreamZzZ> if you do make /boot make sure it physically resides at the beginning of disk
[18:33] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: everyone using a Mac is
[18:33] <TheBrayn> is the gnome setting daemon running LucidDreamZzZ?
[18:33] <mryanbrown> i had gpt and uefi setup with gummiboot on arch yesterday
[18:33] <mryanbrown> 8s reboot to console
[18:34] <[1]tom> i was using 10.04 for my school's robotics club, but now that it's at eol, what version do you think i should go for? i'm just wondering if there would be more serious back compatibility issues if i went straight for the latest release
[18:34] <mryanbrown> no visible bootloader, just straight loaded the kernel
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> mryanbrown, And by the way showing an smart as attitude here will not go far.
[18:34] <LucidDreamZzZ> thebananafish, im on fvwm2
[18:34] <xangua> [1]tom 12.04 is the current LTS
[18:34] <LucidDreamZzZ> TheBrayn, ^^
[18:34] <DJones> [1]tom: You may be better sticking with 12.04 thats supported for 5 years
[18:34] <histo> mryanbrown: you should see it on a ssd bout 3-4 seconds
[18:34] <Slart> [1]tom: if you don't want to mess with updates all the time go with the latest LTS.. long term support version
[18:34] <mryanbrown> tom, isnt 13.04 lts'ed longer than 12.04 lts
[18:35] <Slart> !lts
[18:35] <mryanbrown> histo, cold boot it is
[18:35] <DJones> mryanbrown: 13.04 isn't lts
[18:35] <mryanbrown> im talking full power cycle from a running os
[18:35] <newtothis> what are some daily command-type things you seasoned ubuntu-ers do to keep things running smoothly?
[18:35] <mryanbrown> is it 14.04?
[18:35] <LucidDreamZzZ> 12.04 _is LTS
[18:35] <mryanbrown> i havent looked @ the lts chart in a bit
[18:35] <histo> mryanbrown: 14.04 will be lts yes
[18:35] <mryanbrown> but 12.04 has a short lts lifespan
[18:35] <[1]tom> mryan, i dont really know about 13 vs 12 as far as lts
[18:35] <mryanbrown> compared to 10.04
[18:35] <LucidDreamZzZ> its in topic
[18:35] <joshu_> problem solved.
[18:35] <saiarcot895> mryanbrown: the support version for raring and future non-LTS releases was shortened
[18:36] <Slart> newtothis: "command-type things" ? I try to update my system regularily
[18:36] <arunpyasi> hello, how to create bootable mac OS X usb in my ubuntu??
[18:36] <mryanbrown> isnt 14.04 longer than 12.04 though
[18:36] <newtothis> so when 14.04 comes out,  how do i update to it and keep all my data?  that'll be easy, right?
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> [1]tom  http://ubuntuone.com/4ayHg2YG9X77HXtehm8Mts
[18:36] <LucidDreamZzZ> 2017 i think
[18:36] <[1]tom> thanks, monkeydust
[18:36] <LucidDreamZzZ> !12.04
[18:36] <newtothis> Slart:  lol i see, yeah i'm bad at this , thanks mate
[18:36] <arunpyasi> hello, how to create bootable mac OS X usb in my ubuntu??
[18:37] <Slart> newtothis: so far updating ubuntu versions "in place" has been kind of smooth.. just run the updater and wait a while and it's done
[18:37] <usr13> newtothis: If you have separate partition for  /home/  you can do fresh install and keep all your personal files where they are.
[18:37] <[1]tom> looks like 12.04 it is then
[18:37] <genii> mryanbrown: All LTS starting with 12.04 are unified support length with server, so 5 years
[18:37] <newtothis> Slart:  sweet, so when 14.04 or the next LTS is avail.  'sudo apt-get update'  by default installs it?
[18:38] <arunpyasi> hello, how to create bootable mac OS X usb in my ubuntu??
[18:38] <TheBrayn> nope, of course not
[18:38] <Slart> newtothis: well.. no.. apt-get doesn't do that.. but there are other commands that will get you the next version
[18:38] <Slart> !upgrade | newtothis
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> !patience | arunprasadr
[18:38] <usr13> newtothis: Otherwise you can do the normal upgrade porcess, but if you are LTS the normal distribution upgrade process is almost flawless, works just fine almost every time.
[18:38] <newtothis> usr13:   Slart   awesome, thanks guys
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> !patience > arunpyasi
[18:38] <LucidDreamZzZ> like colt 45
[18:39] <Slart> newtothis: you're welcoem
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> arunprasadr, Sorry mis tabed
[18:40] <deepocean1358> usr13, are you still there?
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> arunpyasi, If you are trying to hackentosh you are on the wrong channel
[18:40] <usr13> yes
[18:41] <RaveYoda> arumpyasi, use multisystem
[18:41] <usr13> deepocean1358: Did you re-install?
[18:41] <arunpyasi> RaveYoda: what is that ?? , please help me to create a usb key bootable with mac os x
[18:42] <RaveYoda> arunpasi, if this is just a standard iso then multisystem should do the trick
[18:42] <[1]tom> does anyone have experience with keryx?
[18:42] <RaveYoda> arunpasi, let me get you a link
[18:42] <newtothis> uhhh just now in terminal instead of: "myname@pc:~$"  it was just   ">"  what's that mean?
[18:42] <deepocean1358> usr13, No I am still copying files
[18:42] <usr13> O
[18:42] <RaveYoda> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[18:42] <mryanbrown> i hate pendrive
[18:42] <mryanbrown> i use suse imagewriter
[18:43] <mryanbrown> works like a charm
[18:43] <mryanbrown> or dd
[18:43] <FloodBot1> mryanbrown: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:43] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[18:43] <deepocean1358> usr13, question, I wonder whether I can merge SDB1, SDB2 and SDB3 without losing data. SDB1 and 2 used to contain windows 7\
[18:43] <deepocean1358> http://pastebin.com/EPTdaEkH
[18:43] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, just install the program. Then start it up
[18:43] <genii> newtothis: Whatever command you issued just prior is waiting for input. If this isn't what you wanted, ctrl-c
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> [1]tom, The channel works with problems stated and part of ubuntu support.
[18:44] <newtothis> genii i see...  thanks
[18:44] <arunpyasi> RaveYoda: will it work fine??
[18:44] <usr13> deepocean1358: No.  You can not "merge" partitions.  YOu can only resize them or delete them or create them.
[18:44] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, ??? yup. It's easy to use and is handy when you want multiple isoes on one usb as well
[18:44] <deepocean1358> usr13, I remember in Windows' Partion Magic program you could do this
[18:45] <deepocean1358> there is no such program in Linux?
[18:45] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, i've a video yuy showing it's features as well. it reall good
[18:45] <newtothis> if smuxi is web based.. why do i have to install it?
[18:45] <arunpyasi> RaveYoda: will it work for making Mac OS X snow leopard?
[18:45] <mojo706> gparted
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> deepocean1358, Not merging no
[18:46] <usr13> deepocean1358: No.  You can not "merge" partitions.  You can only resize them or delete them or create them.
[18:46] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, ido you mean putting it on usb and testing/installing to systems? If so, yes
[18:46] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, unless it's a kackintosh disk in which case I'm not too sure.
[18:46] <arunpyasi> yes man
[18:47] <xgeek-cub> hello
[18:47] <arunpyasi> RaveYoda: ok
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> newtothis, smuxi looks like a standard IRC app to me.
[18:47] <xgeek-cub> I installed lightdm but now i get blacksecreen and flashing mouse point any ideas?
[18:47] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, but if you want to "burn" an OS X img to usb this'll do the trick
[18:48] <deepocean1358> usr13, wilee-nilee supposed I delete SDB1,2, can I then add these to SDB3? Or is that merging as well?
[18:48] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, mind, the usb disk will be re-partitioned so all data on it will be lost
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> deepocean1358,  Is sdb1 the boot partition?
[18:48] <arunpyasi> RaveYoda: oh yeah I have the iso img ,I need to clone to the usb
[18:48] <deepocean1358> usr13, wilee-nilee I mean resize SDB3
[18:48] <usr13> deepocean1358:  I know that what you see about Partition Magic is a claim that you can "merge" partitions, but what it *really* does is make one of them bigger, the other smaller and copies data from one to the other, and then deletes the smaller and again, enlarges the other.
[18:48] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, how big is your usb disk?
[18:49] <deepocean1358> usr13, wilee-nilee SDB1 and 2 are boot and windows 7
[18:49] <deepocean1358> usr13, that works for me. :)
[18:49] <usr13> deepocean1358: If you would like to use PartitionMagic, see: http://partition-magic.soft32.com/free-download/?lp=adwords&tg=us&kw=_inpage:Home+Windows+System+Utilities+HardDisk+Tools&mt=b&ad=25495257198&pl=&ds=s&gclid=CI7eicajxrgCFYFhMgod33gAiw  (It is actually very good, I've used it myself and like it a lot.)
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> deepocean1358, So you want it all in one partition is this correct?
[18:50] <CheckDavid> I hope I can connect to the internet once I launch ubuntu
[18:50] <deepocean1358> wilee-nilee, Yes
[18:50] <arunpyasi> RaveYoda: 8 gb
[18:51] <deepocean1358> according to this article it cannot be done
[18:51] <deepocean1358> http://superuser.com/questions/135281/linux-combine-two-partitions
[18:51] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, that should do.
[18:51] <deepocean1358> deleted partition must come after the partition that is to be enlarged
[18:51] <deepocean1358> wilee-nilee, usr13 ^
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> deepocean1358, If this is a standard setup not a uefi you would have to use a recovery or install disc and boot to the terminal and load the bcd to that one partition easily done that partition should be the active one with a boot flag, then otherwise move all your data other than the boot to that partition.
[18:52] <m_tadeu> sometimes some process just starts accessing the disk like mad and freezes my system...how can I make ubuntu automatically kill that process?
[18:52] <deepocean1358> usr13, wilee-nilee only solution that comes into mind is: boot in live USB ubuntu. Merge SDA, copy all SDB into SDA, Merge SDB into 1 block and copy everything back again into SDB and reinstall on SDA
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> deepocean1358, Heh, you have to have the correct boot info in your final partition, part of it is not at this time.
[18:54] <CheckDavid> Is it possible to install ubunto on the average consumer-market tablet?
[18:54] <usr13> deepocean1358: sda11 is 85G and is at the end of the drive. Right?  Why not just delete sda3,4,5,6,7,8,9 & 10 and leave sda11 as is.
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> deepocean1358, It would be helpful to see the bootscript run to se whats actually all there.
[18:54] <RaveYoda> arunpyasi, if that doesn't work for some reason, then unetbootin is pretty good too. But it's hard to put multiple isoes on a usb that way.
[18:55] <arunpyasi> yeah
[18:55] <deepocean1358> wilee-nilee, I posted this earlier: http://pastebin.com/EPTdaEkH
[18:55] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, what kinda tablet?
[18:56] <deepocean1358> usr13, I have no emptied all on SDA
[18:56] <deepocean1358> usr13, I am now fully flexible on SDA to install ubuntu
[18:56] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, not sure. Let's imagine a Samsung galaxy
[18:56] <deepocean1358> usr13 have now* emptied
[18:56] <newtothis> so like "sudo apt-get remove smuxi" would remove it, but not completely right?  and "sudo apt-get --purge remove smuxi" would completely get rid of it right?
[18:56] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, i'm quite sure you can
[18:57] <newtothis> how do you get rid of all things unnecessary....  like... a purge all?
[18:57] <CheckDavid> And would it be the desktop version, or the tablet version?
[18:57] <histo> newtothis: sudo apt-get purge somepackage  will remove the configuration files etc... remove retains them so when you reinstallt he configs stay
[18:57] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, ithough you'll ned to remove unity and use something lighter
[18:57] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, Hak5 on youtube did this some time bacl
[18:57] <usr13> deepocean1358:  Ok.
[18:57] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, with the desktop version?
[18:58] <kapilsharma> ubuntu 12.04 could not installed on compaq presario v5202. Any idea which version can be installed?
[18:58] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, I believe so. It's been about 3-4 months
[18:58] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, I believe so. It's been about 3-4 months ago
[18:58] <CheckDavid> I see. Also another question, does Ubuntu come with any default IRC client?
[18:58] <usr13> deepocean1358:  But was just thinking that 640-90=500  so....
[18:58] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, better to use the server version and build up though
[18:59] <deepocean1358> usr13, 640-90=500?
[18:59] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, maybe good for people that know how to develop etc. I am just a noob =(
[18:59] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, or use Ubuntu Builder and use ubuntuminiremix and build that way
[18:59] <CheckDavid> I see.
[18:59] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, Ubuntu Builder is noob friendly
[18:59] <deepocean1358> usr13, how much does the Ubuntu install take?
[18:59] <kapilsharma> got message bash: /usr/bin/dircolors: Inout/Output error
[18:59] <usr13> deepocean1358:  Well 550, but;  At any rate, if you have the whole 640G dirve free
[18:59] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, do you happen to know if Ubuntu comes with an IRC client pre-installed?
[18:59] <usr13> go for it...
[19:00] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, I've a tut on youtube that'll show you how to use it
[19:00] <usr13> deepocean1358: about 20g or so maybe
[19:00] <ikonia> kapilsharma: sounds like your disk is failing
[19:00] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, It does but I don't recall it's prog
[19:00] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, I use XchatIRC
[19:00] <CheckDavid> That's nice. But what about the new tablet version of Ubuntu? Is it not available yet?
[19:00] <usr13> deepocean1358: You should know, you just installed on something less than 20G
[19:00] <sam113101> Guys, for some reason the font on gtk2 apps doesn't look the same as on gtk3 apps, how can I fix it?
[19:00] <kapilsharma> ikonia: probably unsupportive hardware. its old compaq presario v5202
[19:01] <ikonia> kapilsharma: it's a disk - it's pretty hard to not support a disk
[19:01] <shahan> so smuxi just used my ubuntu username by default... does that mean it has "access" to my ubuntu password?
[19:01] <usr13> deepocean1358: I would not attempt to install any modern OS on less than 40 or 50G
[19:01] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, No clue.... =/ I'm desktop orriented
[19:01] <deepocean1358> usr13, thats my thought as well. I can reinstall Ubuntu on SDA, and tonight I will move everything from SDB to SDA assuming there is more than 490gb space left. And then tomorrow morning, hopefully once laptop is ready, I will repartion SDB into 1 partition and tomorrow night again I will move everything back to SDB and clean SDA
[19:01] <nurupo> how can I install a package libconfig8-dev from quantal, considering i'm on precise? that's what I tried to do https://gist.github.com/nurupo/9082cf8b38912acf32e6
[19:01] <CheckDavid> Sure RaveYoda , thanks anyway. It's not important actually, it was a mere curiosity.
[19:02] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, Would you like me to point you to the Hak5 video as well as my vid on using Ubuntu builder?
[19:02] <kapilsharma> ikonia: any idea what can be done? Its running windows 7 perfectly.
[19:02] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, Ahhhh, ok
[19:02] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, no, very busy, I am on a transition hyou know? From windows to Ubuntu ;)
[19:02] <ikonia> kapilsharma: it sounds like it's either a failure in the disk, or there is file system corruption, most probably a failure in the disk
[19:02] <CheckDavid> =D
[19:03] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, Ahhhh, welcome to linux mate. It's a hard but rewording road
[19:03] <nurupo> any idea what i'm doing wrong?
[19:03] <geri> hi where can i set my proxy...is there some global config file?
[19:03] <shahan> between using wndows and ubuntu, on windows i was using malware bytes pro for anti-virus... should i have ... something like that for ubuntu?
[19:03] <kapilsharma> ikonia: but if disk fails, windows should also not load. right? I even try to run from USB and getting same error.
[19:03] <ikonia> kapilsharma: the disk is "failing" in the same way ubuntu has loaded and is working
[19:03] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, since you use Xchat and you don't know if Ubuntu comes with a default IRC client, I suppose xchat is not the default client Ubuntu comes with, if any.
[19:03] <shahan> does ubuntu... need anti virus crap like that? firewalls and whatnot?  is it built in?
[19:03] <sam113101> Guys, for some reason the font on gtk2 apps doesn't look the same as on gtk3 apps, how can I fix it?
[19:04] <genii> nurupo: The basic thing you're doing wrong.... is trying to install a package from quantal onto precise
[19:04] <usr13> deepocean1358:  I'm not sure you need to change sdb much.  You might consider resizing it's partitions in some way, (that seems *logical* to *you*).
[19:04] <ikonia> shahan: firewalls are built in, it does not need antivirus in the same style as windows based software
[19:04] <usr13> deepocean1358: And Win8 has provisions to resize it's own partition(s).
[19:04] <shahan> ikonia:  what kind of antivirus is it?  it's just unanimous over all flavours?
[19:05] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, Nope. I'm going for a slim build so have removed core ubuntu pkgs
[19:05] <ikonia> shahan: basically you don't need to run an antivirus software stack
[19:05] <shahan> ikonia:  or uhh, firewalls?
[19:05] <ikonia> shahan: the firewall is built into the ubuntu distribtuion
[19:06] <Kunal> I just used this command sudo vi /etc/hosts and edited it , any idea how to save it ?
[19:06] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, yeah, I was thinking that could also be the case
[19:06] <geri> hi where can i set my proxy...is there some global config file?
[19:06] <RaveYoda> kunal, ctrl+x button
[19:06] <CheckDavid> Well RaveYoda, it's time for me to shutdown windows, and hopefully never come back =)
[19:06] <RaveYoda> kunal, press y
[19:06] <RaveYoda> kunal, then enter
[19:06] <Pici> Kunal: :x
[19:06] <shahan> ikonia: any way to view or edit it?
[19:07] <ikonia> !ufw | shahan
[19:07] <Pici> Kunal: or :w then :q
[19:07] <Kunal> kk let me try
[19:07] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, wait,
[19:07] <CheckDavid> >For what? I mean, never come back to windows, not here =)
[19:07] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, just in case, sudo apt-get install xchat should get you the irc client
[19:08] <CheckDavid> I am so sad that Copy paste won't work between reboots
[19:08] <CheckDavid> lol
[19:08] <CheckDavid> kidding
[19:08] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, if not, use their package manager to find it
[19:08] <savagejen> does anyone know where the package for the ubuntu touch shell is located? NOT the images you flash to the devices, but just the ubuntu touch shell itself?
[19:08] <CheckDavid> I will find my way =)
[19:08] <CheckDavid> At least as long as I can connect to the internet
[19:08] <CheckDavid> see ya =D
[19:08] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, write it dwn??
[19:08] <CheckDavid> I can memorize, i was just joking
[19:08] <CheckDavid> Because I actually used Linux in the past
[19:08] <CheckDavid> I used Puppylinux
[19:08] <CheckDavid> But then Windows sucked me back in
[19:08] <Kunal> ah thx
[19:09] <usr13> ikonia: That is an interesting factoid, (not completely factual/true).
[19:09] <RaveYoda> kunal, it worked?
[19:09] <ikonia> usr13: I was just thinking it needed a few tweaks
[19:09] <ikonia> usr13: feel free to same me the pain and submit an update
[19:09] <Kunal> the one that pici said worked
[19:09] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, ahhh puppy; i love it
[19:09] <usr13> ikonia: It's minor but... a little off.
[19:09] <usr13> ikonia: ok
[19:10] <sam113101> Guys, for some reason the font on gtk2 apps doesn't look the same as on gtk3 apps, how can I fix it?
[19:10] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, but you used the non debian based pup right?
[19:10] <lmat> Oh my, I just tried to visit ubuntu forums... sheesh
[19:10] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, I don't remember to be honest, i used the most standard one
[19:10] <CheckDavid> I think I stopped using it at 5.3
[19:11] <LucidDreamZzZ> Puppy needs RDC/VNC
[19:11] <LucidDreamZzZ> RDP*
[19:11] <deepocean1358> usr13, in the new install would you recommend I create 1 or 2 partions?
[19:11] <LucidDreamZzZ> and raid
[19:11] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, ok, but puppy is waayy diffrent from ubu. =p the cli lines anyway. They have an ubu based version now but not back 2yrs ago
[19:11] <deepocean1358> usr13, or create: SDA1: /boot, SDA2, SWAP (8GB?), SDA3: / and SDA4: /Data
[19:12] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, another point, one of the things that is pushign me to linux. Is that I need it to do an online course, that will require some linux console functions.
[19:12] <usr13> deepocean1358: 2 at least.  Ideally 3 (in my opinion).
[19:12] <CheckDavid> I am not yet totally sure about what I am doing. But yeah, I will do it since I don't have a VPS service or anything of the sort.
[19:12] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, hey, why dont you use wubi insted and keep windows?
[19:12] <imark> RaveYoda: theres been an ubuntu based puppy for years now,
[19:12] <deepocean1358> usr13, how would that look like
[19:12] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, that's what I did, shamefully.
[19:12] <imark> RaveYoda: since lucid
[19:12] <RaveYoda> imark, yeah, 2yrs or so
[19:13] <imark> over 3
[19:13] <shahan> do most people have the ufw enabled?  is it good?
[19:13] <th0r> CheckDavid, why not run a distro in virtualbox?
[19:13] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, wait, you're using Wubi atm?
[19:13] <usr13> deepocean1358: 1) 8G swap 2) 40G /  (type=ext4)   3) 5XXG /home/ (type=ext4) (the rest of the drive, to the end).
[19:13] <CheckDavid> th0r, because using ubuntu directly seems better to me. MAybe I am wrong?
[19:14] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, yes I am. It installed already.
[19:14] <deepocean1358> usr13, you do not separate /boot  ?
[19:14] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: wubi is dead
[19:14] <th0r> CheckDavid, I don't know, but it seems changing to linux just for a bit of course work is overkill
[19:14] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, or are you going for dool boot today? or full install?
[19:14] <CheckDavid> I did Dual boot I think.
[19:14] <usr13> deepocean1358: The first, an 8G swap partition, the second 40 or 50G for system files, and the rest for /home/ (personal files).   In the past I changed to Linux (puppy linux) for no specific extra functionality. I was maybe looking for some sort of simplicity.
[19:15] <RaveYoda> gordonjcp, in your humble opinion
[19:15] <usr13> deepocean1358: You can have a separate /boot/ partition but not necessary.  (I don't ever do it, don't see much need for it.)
[19:15] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: it's slow, it doesn't really work, and the vast majority of people who come in here with weird intractable problems are using it
[19:15] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: I have sound technical reasons for calling it crap
[19:15] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, use Linux Mint for simplicity
[19:15] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: if you've got the rest of the evening free, I can explain them in all their painful detail
[19:16] <CheckDavid> Oh, but yeah, I guess I am going for Ubuntu now, for Distro Choosing Simplicity.
[19:16] <CheckDavid> lol
[19:16] <gordonjcp> CheckDavid: it's a good choice
[19:16] <th0r> CheckDavid, I use linux exclusively, so don't misunderstand. But if I just wanted it for some coursework and already had my world set up in windows I would definitely consider just throwing something into virtualbox until the course was over
[19:16] <RaveYoda> gordonjcp, Fiinnee, it is crap. But it's better than Windows
[19:16] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: it's horribly slow
[19:16] <geri> where can i set my proxy...is there some global config file?
[19:16] <geri> system wide
[19:17] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: it's much, much slower than a native fs, even slower than running from a USB drive
[19:17] <deepocean1358> usr13, the thing is prefer having data separated from OS directories, even /Home
[19:17] <RaveYoda> gordonjcp, meehh,
[19:17] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, Ahhhhh
[19:17] <CheckDavid> th0r, I have been preparing myself to go back to linux all these years. INcluding not depending on software that only exists for windows for example.
[19:17] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, well....
[19:17] <histo> CheckDavid: alternativeto.net
[19:18] <RaveYoda> checkdavid,then use Ubu in dool boot bro. It'll save you one day
[19:18] <histo> CheckDavid: or just keep a windows vm around just incase
[19:18] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, I think that's what wubi does right?
[19:18] <usr13> deepocean1358: Yes, I agree.  (That is why I recommend 3 partitions.  One for swap, one for /  and one more for /home/
[19:18] <geri> where can i set the proxy system wide in ubuntu...is there a config file?!?!
[19:18] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, well... no.
[19:18] <CheckDavid> What!?
[19:19] <CheckDavid> I installed already
[19:19] <CheckDavid> LOL
[19:19] <deepocean1358> usr13, can I have SDA1 8GB Swap, SDA2 50Gb / (including home), SDA3 FAT32
[19:19] <CheckDavid> Did my windows go kaboom?
[19:19] <CheckDavid> lol
[19:19] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, Wubi is like an virtual machine but not??
[19:19] <histo> RaveYoda: no wubi is not a vm
[19:19] <CheckDavid> Man no idea :(
[19:19] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, ask gordanjcp
[19:19] <CheckDavid> ON the website it looked like dual boot auto installer for windows (
[19:19] <CheckDavid> maybe I did it too fast :(
[19:19] <deepocean1358> CheckDavid, what made you make the switch?
[19:19] <RaveYoda> hiso, which is why i said like but not
[19:19] <RaveYoda> checkdavid, ask gordanjcp
[19:19] <shahan> would any seasoned ubuntu user say that the UFW is necessary and essential?
[19:20] <sam113101> help
[19:20] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, no it's ok, I downloaded it from ubuntu.com, windows installer, I am sure it is dual boot
[19:20] <deepocean1358> shahan, what UFW
[19:20] <CheckDavid> deepocean1358, leap of faith
[19:20] <RaveYoda> shahan, ufw is a firewall manager
[19:20] <CheckDavid> lol
[19:20] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: ask me what?
[19:20] <RaveYoda> shahan, use gufw
[19:20] <geri> ?
[19:21] <LucidDreamZzZ> so many (dumb) bloggers say just make a / and swap
[19:21] <RaveYoda> gordonjcp, What iisss Wubi exactly?? Not vm but like one yet not??
[19:21] <LucidDreamZzZ> now everyone think it ok
[19:21] <deepocean1358> CheckDavid, the only piece of software that was holding me back was: MS Office
[19:21] <shahan> wait so then what does "sudo ufw enable"  do?
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Your question is faulty in so many ways, you want empirical or opinions, how wpuld any of us know that anyway.
[19:21] <shahan> tthat doesn't turn on like... a default firewall?
[19:21] <CheckDavid> Ok, i was discussing with some guy how I needed a linux vps or something and he suggested me the following: " no problem....all u need is to use ur linux terminal to push code to github and your heroku account...that is the only reason a console is needed and to edit files...if your main operating system is ubuntu thats even better"
[19:21] <RaveYoda> shahan, it enables ufw
[19:21] <deepocean1358> CheckDavid, I understand MS Office 2010 runs smoothly on PLAYONLINUX though
[19:22] <RaveYoda> shahan, ufw is an overlay for managing the iptables of linux
[19:22] <CheckDavid> deepocean1358, I don't use MS OFfice anyway
[19:22] <deepocean1358> CheckDavid, lucky you, I have no choice
[19:22] <RaveYoda> shahan, it's to manage hopw your sys handles tcp/ip/udp/ all protocals in linux
[19:22] <histo> LucidDreamZzZ: it is okay other than efi based systems you need a fat32 boot
[19:22] <usr13> deepocean1358: We use libreoffice or OpenOffice
[19:22] <dolm> Hey guys, please could you help me. Do ubuntu touch still run on the android kernel?
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> wine is for drinking, period. ;)
[19:22] <deepocean1358> usr13, copying 12minutes left, reinstalling in 12 minutes :)
[19:22] <shahan> wilee-nilee: empirical i guess, but i see your point sir..
[19:22] <usr13> deepocean1358: Why do you not have a choice?
[19:22] <deepocean1358> usr13, we ? where do you work?
[19:22] <histo> LucidDreamZzZ: the reasoning for all these multiple directories being on seperate partitions isn't as relevant as it used to be.
[19:23] <RaveYoda> shahan, iptables are already predefined and ufw allows you to fine tine 'em
[19:23] <Ruint> if you add backports to your sources.list, do you need to make an apt/preferences file pinning it lower than your main repos, or do the main repos automatically take precedent ?
[19:23] <deepocean1358> usr13, major banks all use MS Office
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Its hard to get info I know. ;)
[19:23] <CheckDavid> ok
[19:23] <CheckDavid> I will JUMP NOW!
[19:23] <usr13> deepocean1358: Oh, I see.  Ok.
[19:23] <shahan> RaveYoda:  ahhh so enabling it doesn't actually protect me from anything right?
[19:23] <CheckDavid> Wish me luck
[19:23] <CheckDavid> bye
[19:23] <histo> !backports | Ruint
[19:23] <FloodBot1> CheckDavid: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:23] <RaveYoda> shahan, you're already protected
[19:23] <LucidDreamZzZ> should make seperate partitions for other stuff like /tmp, maybe /var and /opt, possibly /usr if you compile apps
[19:23] <Ruint> ...
[19:23] <LucidDreamZzZ> idk wtf ppl thinking
[19:23] <deepocean1358> usr13, did you see my last suggestion? about partitioning?
[19:23] <shahan> RaveYoda:  as a long time windows user, that's blowing my mind
[19:23] <xgeek-cub> I installed lightdm but now i get blacksecreen and flashing mouse point any ideas?
[19:23] <Ruint> histo: ty, but that is only tangentally related to my question
[19:23] <histo> shahan: you're most likely protected already from NAT
[19:24] <RaveYoda> shahan, ufw or better than that gufw allows for finer handling of those iptables
[19:24] <histo> !best | LucidDreamZzZ
[19:24] <usr13> deepocean1358: No, what was it?
[19:24] <deepocean1358> usr13, can I have SDA1 8GB Swap, SDA2 50Gb / (including home), SDA3 FAT32
[19:24] <shahan> RaveYoda:  i uh.. i um.. don't know how to hand iptables...
[19:24] <karamel4e> Hello, please help. I upgraded to 13.04 but it seems like a clean install. I mean my personal files and gone.. or hidden or I don't know what else. Any ideas?
[19:24] <Ruint> histo: there's an exception to that rule called irssi
[19:24] <histo> Ruint: not if you read it you will learn how to use backports
[19:24] <shahan> *handle
[19:24] <histo> Ruint: and it will answer your questions
[19:24] <RaveYoda> shahan, you really don't need it unless you want to really buckle your system down.
[19:25] <noiro> Can someone help me with Youtube videos? When I fullscreen, and move the mouse, the pause, volume, and quality bar is too far below my screen. I am fairly certain it is not a video resolution issue
[19:25] <RaveYoda> shahan, iptables are waaayyy to advanced you you atm. And me for that matter
[19:25] <histo> karamel4e: did you look in /home/username?
[19:25] <usr13> deepocean1358: Yes you can but wouldn't you rather have a separate partition for /home/?
[19:25] <shahan> i see...  RaveYoda  so Ubuntu by default doesn't need like AVG running in the background eating my memory crap.. or antivirus. scanning w.e. bullshit?
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> noiro, the bar is not popping up, or when it does it is to low?
[19:25] <histo> !av | shahan
[19:26] <shahan> :O
[19:26] <LucidDreamZzZ> i just think there is a correct way not best per say
[19:26] <histo> !language | shahan
[19:26] <RaveYoda> shahan, don't worry, you don't need to handle iptables. And yes you are correct
[19:26] <Pici> noiro: after waiting for it to fade the controls out, can you bring them up fully again by mousing down there?
[19:26] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: no, what happens is that the kernel is mounting the Windows filesystem, then mounting the Linux filesystem which is stored on a file in the Windows partition
[19:26] <gordonjcp> LucidDreamZzZ: "per se"
[19:26] <histo> LucidDreamZzZ: That's your opinion
[19:26] <noiro> wilee-nilee, it is too low.  Then I cant read it becuase it is ext4 and not NTFS/FAT32
[19:26] <usr13> deepocean1358: And the above scheme only allows for 58G for the entire Linux install.  (When it is a 640G drive?)
[19:26] <LucidDreamZzZ> ^
[19:26] <gordonjcp> shahan: there are no Linux viruses
[19:26] <histo> LucidDreamZzZ: and offtopic
[19:26] <histo> gordonjcp: yes there is
[19:26] <noiro> They will come up all the way, but it is not always guarenteed
[19:26] <gordonjcp> histo: [citation needed]
[19:26] <RaveYoda> gordanjcp, ahhhhh...so complex wubi...why oh why
[19:26] <deepocean1358> usr13, isnt 60gb enough for a linux install?
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> noiro, Hmm, not sure, I assume your not using f11.
[19:27] <histo> gordonjcp: there was a virus in a screen saver on gnome-look a while back
[19:27] <usr13> deepocean1358: Here is an idea:  8G swap  50G /   80G /home/  and leave the rest un-partitioned.  You can make a large FAT32 partition out of it afterward.
[19:27] <Pici> noiro: I've been seeing that on my Windows install recently, it might be a thing with Chrome (I'm on the dev channel) or with Youtube itself,.
[19:27] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: handy hint - you keep mis-spelling my name, so instead of typing it in wrongly type gord<TAB> and see what happens
[19:27] <noiro> f11? It's weird, the bar will minimize, and moving my mouse shows some but won't bring it up. Flash version bug? I'm on Firefox
[19:27] <gordonjcp> histo: not a virus, a trojan
[19:27] <histo> gordonjcp: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2009/12/malware-found-in-screensaver-for-ubuntu
[19:27] <gordonjcp> histo: totally different
[19:27] <Ruint> histo: oic, the guy i'm trying to stop from installing znc from source is using 12.04, so he doesn't need to bother with pinning
[19:27] <deepocean1358> usr13, out of the /home
[19:27] <deepocean1358> ?
[19:27] <RaveYoda> gordonjcp, ohhh....
[19:27] <Ruint> the last time i had to do anything like that myself i was using debian squeeze, so my knowledge isn't exactly current
[19:28] <Ruint> histo: ty
[19:28] <deepocean1358> usr13, I can convert the /home ext4 into FAT32 later on?
[19:28] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: \o/
[19:28] <RaveYoda> gordonjcp, sorry about that.
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> noiro, f11 full screens stuff as well
[19:28] <shahan> Ruint:  is your username a Wolves of the Calla reference?!
[19:28] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: you learned a new trick!
[19:28] <histo> Ruint: you have to specify that you want to install a package from backports it doesn't just update all packages to those versions
[19:28] <gordonjcp> RaveYoda: you just levelled up on IRC ;-)
[19:28] <RaveYoda> gordonjcp, Thanks for the hint. reaaally helpful
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> a little differently
[19:28] <Ruint> wait
[19:28] <Ruint> it was sarge not squeeze
[19:28] <LucidDreamZzZ> if someone asks how to partition disk you tell them what?  admittedly there are many choices but saying / and swap fine is braindead
[19:28] <Ruint> shahan: no, the nick ruin was taken
[19:29] <Ruint> shahan: XD
[19:29] <RaveYoda> gordonjcp, I just started usin g irc last night
[19:29] <shahan> Ruint: ohh xD
[19:29] <gerep> Hi all.I just installed Safari on PlayonLinux but it never loads any page, someone been through that?
[19:29] <LucidDreamZzZ> tab ftw
[19:29] <usr13> deepocean1358: How much is enough is subjective.  It depends on what you do with your Operating System and how many and how large of files you save or keep on it.  Yes 60G is enogh.  20G is enough (but does not leave much room.  If you use 60G, then just go with 2partitions.  One 8G for swap, the other for /  (including home).
[19:29] <RaveYoda> shahan, are you set?
[19:29] <th0r> LucidDreamZzZ, you have some interesting opinions
[19:30] <LucidDreamZzZ> ive been Linux admin since 98 so i do have opinions
[19:30] <bazhang> !ot | LucidDreamZzZ
[19:31] <LucidDreamZzZ> and they are mostly correct as well
[19:31] <th0r> LucidDreamZzZ, and I have been workign with linux since the early 80's....so I know better
[19:31] <LucidDreamZzZ> what distro
[19:31] <bazhang> thats enough LucidDreamZzZ
[19:31] <OerHeks> please stop this flamewar
[19:32] <deepocean1358> usr13, I am trying to figure out what I will put in /home that would fill up 80gb (not being cynical). With other words Ubuntu+Office 2010 = 30gb?
[19:33] <histo> !partition | LucidDreamZzZ
[19:33] <RaveYoda> deepocean1358,  nooo, soo wrong
[19:33] <gerep> anyone?
[19:33] <LucidDreamZzZ> yeah sec i look
[19:33] <LucidDreamZzZ> thx histo
[19:33] <usr13> deepocean1358: I would say that anything less than 70 or 80G, just go with 2 partitons.  What you put in /home/ is all of your personal files.  At first, it will be totally empty, from that point on, who knows>>>(only you).
[19:34] <OerHeks> gerep, i read about that and a solution >> http://techhamlet.com/2012/03/how-to-easily-install-safari-in-linux-the-new-updated-guide/
[19:34] <RaveYoda> deepocean1358, 80gb is more than enough to run happily in Ubu
[19:34] <usr13> !lvm | deepocean1358
[19:34] <jjseeker> I was attempting to install jre and in the process of moving it to /usr/lib I moved it to /usr/bin and now I cannot find the .tar.gz
[19:34] <LucidDreamZzZ> interesting page there not what i would do/recommend
[19:34] <RaveYoda> deepocean1358, unless you torrent
[19:34] <jjseeker> I have also tried using the find command and searching from root
[19:35] <jjseeker> Any advice on how to proceed?
[19:35] <usr13> deepocean1358: As RaveYoda points out, it *all* depends on what you do with it.
[19:35] <usr13> deepocean1358:  The problem is that a new user doesn't have a clue what he/she will do.
[19:36] <karamel4e> Hello again. I know somebody tried to help me but something is happening so I am not able to see who. After upgrade to 13.04 my personal files are gone and the system seems like as it was a clean install. Any ideas, please?
[19:36] <RaveYoda> deepocean1358, usr13 is correct. If you need a word program use Linre
[19:36] <RaveYoda> deepocean1358, an irc, use xchat
[19:37] <deepocean1358> usr13, Ideally for me would be SDA1 /swap, SDA2 /, the rest SDA3  /DATA. I would not use /home to store my torrents but /DATA
[19:37] <RaveYoda> deepocean1358, an  torrenter, transmission
[19:37] <verysoftoiletppr> hi
[19:37] <RaveYoda> deepocean1358, most everything you need will fit 80gb.
[19:37] <usr13> deepocean1358: ... but, it has been my experience that the new user gradually moves from MS Windows to Linux, (tends to use MS Windows less and less as time goes by).  Therefore files end up on Linux.  But the good news is, the partitions can be changed later on.  (Thanks to non-destructive partitioning tools.)
[19:38] <deepocean1358> usr13, only concern is that I will not run out of space if I want to install LINUX programs. Data will be saved separately on /DATA
[19:38] <deepocean1358> usr13, you mean I can change /home (ext4) into FAT32 if I want to ?
[19:38] <verysoftoiletppr> there are 2 addresses in /etc/resolv.conf which I don't know how I placed them there
[19:38] <verysoftoiletppr> there is nothing related in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:38] <usr13> deepocean1358: Yea, and that is fine, you can use the FAT32 DATA directory for torrents / data.
[19:38] <LucidDreamZzZ> its more about security not running out of space
[19:38] <joshu_> noob questions installing xserver-xorg is that a "display manager"?
[19:38] <LucidDreamZzZ> use quota
[19:39] <usr13> deepocean1358: /DATA will *not* be for programs that you install, / will be.
[19:39] <usr13> *(the root directory)*
[19:40] <deepocean1358> usr13, is 80gb for / enough? given that I will use /DATA for data and torrents
[19:40] <usr13> deepocean1358: And that is why that I say if you have allocated 80G or less, use only 2 partitions, (swap and / )
[19:40] <usr13> deepocean1358: Yes
[19:40] <deepocean1358> usr13, ok then I will do: SDA1 /swap (8GB) , SDA2 / (80GB), SDA3 /DATA
[19:40] <Gummo> :)
[19:40] <CheckDavid> Aw, my Ubuntu experience failed
[19:41] <karamel4e> After upgrade to 13.04 my personal files are gone and the system seems like as it was a clean install. There is nothing is /home except the generic dirs (docs, pics, etc) Any ideas, please?
[19:41] <LucidDreamZzZ> waht happened
[19:41] <usr13> deepocean1358: Looks like a plan.  (And again, thanks to non-destructive partitioning tools, that can change later if you want.)
[19:41] <CheckDavid> I tried to boot it, but then it just says something like: preparing to run ubuntu for the first time
[19:41] <deepocean1358> usr13, or should I increase that to 100GB or 120GB?
[19:42] <deepocean1358> btw Ubunutu comes with a very neat Music Player
[19:42] <usr13> deepocean1358: ... it's just a lot easier if you get at least close to what you want from the beginning.  And put the negotiable partitions at the end of the drive.
[19:42] <deepocean1358> I like Rhytymbox
[19:42] <th0r> deepocean1358, I am only using about 5GB for the operating system and software. I put aside 20GB for / and created a separate home for my data files. But the OS itself doesn't require anything near 80GB so long as you are storing most of your stuff in DATA
[19:42] <CheckDavid> Hey RaveYoda  =P
[19:42] <LucidDreamZzZ> mplayer seems nice using gnome-mplayer atm
[19:43] <RaveYoda> joshskidmore, it's more like the base for one
[19:43] <usr13> deepocean1358: 100G would be good.  At first, there will be only about 20% use.
[19:43] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Heyy, sup?
[19:43] <CheckDavid> Hey =)
[19:43] <CheckDavid> Well, It didn't work.
[19:43] <LucidDreamZzZ> your upgrade broke?
[19:43] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, DX
[19:43] <LucidDreamZzZ> or install
[19:43] <CheckDavid> It wouldn't go through the preparing to run Ubuntu for the first time screen
[19:44] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, OHHH...WAIT...
[19:44] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, OK
[19:44] <LucidDreamZzZ> frozen screen?
[19:44] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, DID YOU GEWT THE ISO ON THE USB?
[19:44] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, oops
[19:44] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, sorry
[19:44] <CheckDavid> NO RaveYoda, I installed with wubi, and made a dual boot.
[19:44] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, ohhh geez
[19:44] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, ok
[19:45] <deepocean1358> usr13, give me a second. I am reconsidering what you were saying earlier again. It makes sense to do like you said: sda1 8gb swap, sda2 50gb /, sda3 /home the rest of GB
[19:45] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, by install you mean you ran the setup and then rebooted? then selected to load into ubu?
[19:45] <CheckDavid> All that is correct, except for selecting, apparently it ran Ubuntu without me selecting anything the first time
[19:46] <CheckDavid> For all other attempts I had to select yes.
[19:46] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, it just sits thetre?
[19:46] <deepocean1358> usr13, Ok I will do: sda1 8gb swap, sda2 60gb /, sda3 /home the rest of GB
[19:46] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, what happens if you press xtrl+alt+f1
[19:47] <CheckDavid> ON windows?
[19:47] <CheckDavid> I am on windows now
[19:47] <CheckDavid> Or you mean on bios, or whatever?
[19:47] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, does it bring you to shell for ubuntu?
[19:47] <LucidDreamZzZ> deepocean1358, how much ram will you have installed?
[19:47] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, umm, no, when it sits at "preping ubu fo..."
[19:47] <deepocean1358> LucidDreamZzZ, 8gb with shared memory for video (intel i5 with duo core and integrated intel graphics)
[19:48] <LucidDreamZzZ> i believe you need at least that for hibernation (if you need it)
[19:48] <LucidDreamZzZ> just checking
[19:48] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, no :( I don't know about those commands, should I do it?
[19:48] <deepocean1358> LucidDreamZzZ, you mean I should reserve more than 8gb?
[19:49] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, When you reboot. Go to ubuntu and try to ernter as you would normaly do. Then when it hangs on that part press ctrl+alt+f1
[19:49] <CheckDavid> That'0s all?
[19:49] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, no
[19:49] <LucidDreamZzZ> no i mean you would typically need at least the amount of RAM thats all no more
[19:49] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, this will bring you to shell
[19:49] <deepocean1358> LucidDreamZzZ, so that would mean at least 8GB or more correct?
[19:49] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, it'll say something like, login
[19:50] <LucidDreamZzZ> i havent set it up may add some swap and give it a go
[19:50] <deepocean1358> does iPhone connect to Linux?
[19:50] <LucidDreamZzZ> deepocean1358, correct
[19:50] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, type your login name and then press enter. I'f you've got a password type that afterwards
[19:50] <sin__tax> what is the best way to copy files from a failing dive to another? I assume CP will run into sectors it cannot read
[19:50] <CheckDavid> And then? What else RaveYoda ?
[19:51] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, then once logged in type startx and that should put you in the gui mode
[19:51] <deepocean1358> usr13, does it make sense to increase /swap from 8gb to more than 8gb given that I have 8gb ram? (for hybernation purposes as LucidDreamZzZ  suggests)
[19:51] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, taht's it?=)
[19:51] <LucidDreamZzZ> a lot of this Debian/Ubuntu stuff is new to me hopefully someone here knows
[19:51] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, if it doesn't come back and tell me what it shows EXACTLY
[19:52] <RaveYoda> yes
[19:52] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, yes
[19:52] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, ctrl+alt+f1 - login on console - startx
[19:52] <CheckDavid> Well. Also, before it loads, for a split seconds I get a message saying something like error, failed prefix
[19:52] <CheckDavid> SOmething about an error and a prefix.,
[19:52] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, yes. It likely wont work. But I want to know what comes up
[19:53] <usr13> deepocean1358: Yes, 8 or 8.5 maybe even 9 but 8 is minimun IMO
[19:53] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, this'll help me fix it
[19:53] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, or it could work and we'll look into seeing why it fails at that point
[19:53] <deepocean1358> usr13, Ok I will make it 10GB
[19:53] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, just a question, can I install it on a USB and run it from there?
[19:53] <usr13> deepocean1358: here is an example I can give you. This is the YL's pc:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5905232/
[19:54] <usr13> deepocean1358: 20G is overkill IMO
[19:54] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, may need to type sudo for styartx
[19:54] <usr13> sorry 10 is overkill
[19:54] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, may need to type sudo startx if just startx wont work
[19:54] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, yes
[19:54] <usr13> deepocean1358: 8 is enough, 9 is more than enough.
[19:54] <usr13> 10 is overkill
[19:54] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, likely faster and easyer that way
[19:54] <RaveYoda> XD
[19:55] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, I want faster and easier :(
[19:55] <CheckDavid> What are the disadvantages of Live Ubuntu?
[19:55] <CheckDavid> Less disk space or something?
[19:55] <karamel4e> After upgrade to 13.04 my personal files are gone and the system seems like as it was a clean install. There is nothing is /home except the generic dirs (docs, pics, etc) Any ideas, please?
[19:55] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, well, then in windows, install unetbootin and get a iso of Ubuntu
[19:55] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, then burn the img to the usb with the unetbootion program
[19:56] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, afterwards, restart OS and boot from  usb
[19:56] <Casey> anyone here familiar with testdisk?
[19:56] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, may need to enter bios to change boot order so that usb comes forst then hdd
[19:57] <CheckDavid> I can change the order.
[19:57] <LucidDreamZzZ> karamel4e, your issue worries me i wish i had ideas
[19:57] <CheckDavid> So Unetbootin you say right?
[19:57] <deepocean1358> usr13, how large are SD2 and SD3?
[19:57] <alvaro_> some boby here already used Backtrack linux?
[19:57] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, that's it, you can test ubuntu and then install as dual boot setup
[19:57] <DJones> !backtrack | alvaro_
[19:57] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, yupp, need me to send a link?
[19:58] <karamel4e> LucidDreamZzZ, everything is reset. Even my keyboard layout.
[19:58] <Casey> DJones: do you have much experience with testdisk?
[19:58] <LucidDreamZzZ> ugh sorry to hear, i noticed your first post and just cringed
[19:58] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, apparently i CAN Skip one of your steps
[19:58] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, if you want simplicity then use Linux Mint Mate edition
[19:59] <CheckDavid> Unetbootin already installs ubuntu automatically
[19:59] <DJones> Casey: Sorry, I've never needed it
[19:59] <deepocean1358> usr13, so you have 8gb swap, 100gb / and the rest for /home?
[19:59] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, ummmmmm...? As in it gets the iso then burns it to usb?
[20:00] <karamel4e> Anyone else? After upgrade to 13.04 my personal files are gone and the system seems like as it was a clean install. There is nothing is /home except the generic dirs (docs, pics, etc) Any ideas, please?
[20:00] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, or litterally installs it?
[20:00] <ggherdov> hi all. I have to promote ubuntu to a friend who's on MS Win. What's the sexiest youtube video out there that show off how awesome ubuntu is? I am looking for something of the caliber of this one from the linux foundation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVpbFMhOAwE
[20:00] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, I think it gets the iso
[20:00] <Casey> DJones: can you answer me this, is there a simple way of undeleting a folder (with its file contents) if no modification has been done to the drive since the accidental deletion? raid1 ext4 format
[20:00] <deepocean1358> usr13, Ok I will do: sda1 9gb swap, sda2 60gb /, sda3 /home the rest of GB
[20:00] <deepocean1358> usr13, rebooting
[20:01] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Oh, ok. =P It's been a bit sense I used Unet...
[20:01] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, also, if I already have stuff in my USB drive, can I still install it there?
[20:01] <RaveYoda> usr13, why'd you tell him 9gb swap
[20:02] <RaveYoda> usr13, no one really needs that much
[20:02] <DJones> Casey: Its not something I've had to do, the only suggestions I could give are ones I've seen mentioned to you earlier on (an even then, it would probably be limited to what ubottu knows)
[20:02] <RaveYoda> usr13, sure, maybe 2-3 but not 9
[20:02] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Meaning?
[20:02] <Slart> ggherdov: you can never out-dazzle the competition in this case.. if all it takes to make a person switch is a sexy youtube-video then he/she will be gone the next time someone releases something new.. be it nintendo, microsoft or whatever. Just tell plain facts about what works and what doesn't
[20:02] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, ill it be safe? No, it wipes the usb
[20:02] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, oh ok
[20:03] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, iSAVE all data you want then proceed
[20:03] <Casey> DJones: yeah I've gone the route others have suggested but not coming up with much find. I didn't know you were here when asked before, thought I would pick your brain.
[20:03] <ggherdov> Slart: fair point.
[20:06] <CheckDavid> Rave it asks something.
[20:06] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, What's it asking?
[20:06] <CheckDavid> It says - Space to preserve files across reboots
[20:06] <CheckDavid> And asks me to set the amount of MBs
[20:07] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, OK, sorry, what is asking this? Is it Unet? Or something else?
[20:07] <CheckDavid> Unetbootin
[20:07] <CheckDavid> And the question kinda sucks =/
[20:08] <CheckDavid> How can I know what to input? =/
[20:08] <CheckDavid> And why do I even need to input that value? Can't ubuntu seem how much is left on the drive?
[20:08] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, If it's Unet then that's the persistance cache which is used for live iso usage. set it to 100mb
[20:09] <CheckDavid> Done =)
[20:09] <ItsHorst> Is this channel only for support or also general Ubuntu talk like the maybe upcoming ubuntu phone?
[20:09] <CheckDavid> NOw it is installing.
[20:09] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, sense you're making a live usb, you realy wont need that because you're turning arround and going to set up a dual boot
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> !phone | ItsHorst
[20:09] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, no. Fuck Dual boot. Live ubuntu FTW!
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> CheckDavid  mind your language
[20:10] <DJones> ItsHorst: This channel is just for support, #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-touch are probably the best places to discuss the phone
[20:10] <ItsHorst> Thank you!
[20:10] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, then you need more like 4gb
[20:10] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, -.-
[20:10] <CheckDavid> Oh...
[20:10] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, not 100mb
[20:10] <karamel4e> Anyone else? After upgrade to 13.04 my personal files are gone and the system seems like as it was a clean install. There is nothing is /home except the generic dirs (docs, pics, etc) Any ideas, please?
[20:10] <CheckDavid> Raveyoda, would 2 GBs do?
[20:10] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, trool face lolllzzzz
[20:11] <CheckDavid> WHy 4 GB ? I am still a bit confused
[20:11] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, sure
[20:11] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, set it up for how much you think you'll need
[20:11] <Pici> karamel4e: How did you upgrade?
[20:11] <LucidDreamZzZ> awwww yea xeyes!  now my Ubuntu desktop is d0pe yo!
[20:11] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, does this mean I have my whole OS on the pen drive like Puppy?=P
[20:12] <IdleOne> CheckDavid: No swearing in here please.
[20:12] <karamel4e> Pici, thru the update manager
[20:12] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, your usb is 8gb, correct? the "root" only needs about 3gb really
[20:13] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, no, I have a 4gb one
[20:13] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, so I was going for 4gb cause that's about what remains after roots slice is taken
[20:13] <Pici> karamel4e: Do you have an encrypted home directory?
[20:13] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, oohhhhh.... 2gb will do
[20:13] <CheckDavid> Won't work?
[20:14] <CheckDavid> Oh ok =)
[20:14] <karamel4e> Pici, no, as far as I know
[20:15] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Also, this is a Live install. NOT an install where litterally ubu is fully uncompressed and set up like a real sys
[20:15] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, what am I losing then?
[20:16] <Pici> karamel4e: Are there any extra paths in /home/  (not /home/username/) ?
[20:16] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, OS upgrades, ummm and it is more or less limited to the pkgs set on the iso.
[20:18] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, the 2gb of persistent mem is there to store files rather than add or upgrade programs and the system
[20:18] <CheckDavid> Oh, that's all ? =)
[20:19] <CheckDavid> Can't I install programs on that storage space?
[20:19] <tmcclelland47> I was wondering if the latest distro of Ubuntu will work on a Dell OptiPlex GX260. Can anyone help with this?
[20:19] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, as far as I know
[20:19] <CheckDavid> Such as Xchat for example?
[20:19] <Dr_willis> persistant storage on a live usb RaveYoda ? Its used to store installed apps and any changes made to the live setup. and the users home files
[20:19] <LucidDreamZzZ> !hardware | tmcclelland47
[20:19] <natix> hi all
[20:19] <tmcclelland47> Alright. Cool. Thanks!
[20:20] <LucidDreamZzZ> np good luck
[20:20] <RaveYoda> Or_willis, rly? it nev er worked for me
[20:20] <normunds> Im in ubuntu! What next?  :)
[20:20] <deepocean> usr13, hello :)
[20:20] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda, worked fine for me for years.. thats how it was designed.
[20:20] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, listen to Dr_willis on the storage setup
[20:21] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  its easy to fillup the persistant save. and you really shouldent use it as a long term answer. just testing the disrto out
[20:21] <arunpyasi> guys any one have knowlege about hackintosh ??
[20:21] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, so I was right in my assumption that I can store the stuff I install through the pkg mnger right?
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> arunpyasi  wrong channel
[20:21] <Pici> arunpyasi: no. This channel is for Ubuntu support only.
[20:21] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis,  Ok,  i was doing something wrong then for installing programs
[20:22] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  just the normal apt-get install whatever, should work on a live cd+persistant setup
[20:22] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, lDr_willis is correct on it being short term more than long term
[20:22] <arunpyasi> Pici: yeah , I am in ubuntu and I am wanting to test the stuff Mac from booting form the usb
[20:22] <ashwani> hi
[20:22] <CheckDavid> I don't get what it means to be short term rather than long term
[20:23] <ashwani> hello
[20:23] <Dr_willis> dont use it for weeks/mobnths on end.. if you want that. do a real install
[20:23] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis,  would you help him out with that question
[20:23] <normunds> hello you too :)
[20:23] <Pici> arunpyasi: Okay? but that doesn't mean can support everything that you'd ever want to do on Ubuntu.  We can only support Ubuntu things here.
[20:24] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis,  but a real install to his 4gb usb wont work?
[20:24] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis,  it's too big to go on it
[20:24] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  it will be tight. Id suggest 8gb+   and face it.. you can get 16gb usb flash drives for in the $10 range these days
[20:24] <Dr_willis> Lubutnu would e better on that small a usb
[20:24] <CheckDavid> Dr_willis, what would happen if I used it for months? =O
[20:25] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis,  OH yeeahhh, but i'm just referencing his situation. Not the future setups for it
[20:25] <Dr_willis> CheckDavid,  you would fill it up with data i imagine, and  updates can often break the live-cd-setup
[20:25] <Dr_willis> and on a live-persstant setup - getting the nvidia/ati and other xpecial drivers working. can be a pain
[20:26] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, He is correct
[20:27] <LucidDreamZzZ> tmcclelland47, hey a better idea is maybe download latest live cd and give it a whirl..  Thankfully most stuff will probably just work.
[20:27] <MidnightNinja> does anyone use an alternative gui( like cinnamon)?  Just looking for what others run since I don't like unity, and cinnamon is a bit too small for my tastes
[20:27] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, try Mate, or Gnome
[20:28] <MidnightNinja> thanks RaveYoda! Ill look into those
[20:28] <LucidDreamZzZ> or live iso i guess nobody uses cds
[20:29] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, or you can go for uber light and use Openbox for the desktop and Razorqt-pannel for duuh the pannel then Nitrogen as your wallpaper manager
[20:29] <DWSR> Is there any way to make ssh-agent start on tty login and load keys that are password protected?
[20:29] <LucidDreamZzZ> MidnightNinja, yeah i second that openbox
[20:29] <DWSR> (I have no X).
[20:30] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, It works quite well for me. But does need some getting used to
[20:30] <MidnightNinja> hmm..ill definitely take a look at openbox too then
[20:31] <LucidDreamZzZ> xfce is well integrated
[20:31] <RaveYoda> Also, if you go Openbox then install xcompmger for compositing management. It adds the transparency to the desktop
[20:31] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, Also, if you go Openbox then install xcompmger for compositing management. It adds the transparency to the desktop
[20:31] <LucidDreamZzZ> yeah
[20:31] <karamel4e> Pici, thanks again, actually for some reason I was logged as a guest and my original account was in "locked" state.
[20:32] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, Unless you're using compiz in which case nvm about xcompmgr
[20:32] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, You'll need to get the Razorqt repo to install Razorqt-pannel.
[20:34] <Pici> karamel4e: everything working now?
[20:34] <LucidDreamZzZ> phew
[20:34] <DeaDSouL> hello, is anyone from USA ?
[20:34] <LucidDreamZzZ> i like TWM but maybe thats just me
[20:34] <karamel4e> Pici, yes, I didn't notice the guest account
[20:34] <Pici> karamel4e: great :)
[20:35] <karamel4e> Pici, it is really great. I thought I have lost my files
[20:35] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, Also, to fill your Openbox menu install openbox-xdgmenu. To change openbox themes get obconf
[20:35] <LucidDreamZzZ> bravo Pici!
[20:35] <karamel4e> Bravo
[20:35]  * CheckDavid 's Ubuntu.iso download progress - 83%
[20:36] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, XD Coolio
[20:36] <MidnightNinja> huh, theres a lot to checkout with that then
[20:36] <MidnightNinja> i guess its time to play
[20:36] <porcelain> hello!
[20:36] <CheckDavid> lol, what do you mean by Coolio? =P
[20:37] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, If you're cool with getting dwn and dirty a bit it's a sweet setup and faaaarrrr lighter thabn Unity
[20:37] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, -shrugs- It's almost done?
[20:38] <vale__> hi, I'll ask here because lubuntu chan seems to be empry
[20:38] <vale__> hi, I'll ask here because lubuntu chan seems to be empty
[20:38] <vale__> I've just installed lubuntu on a PIII computer and, at reboot after the installation, I get nothing but a black flashing screen with mouse pointer on it. the graphic card is an Asus V3005
[20:38] <vale__> sorry for the double post
[20:38] <CheckDavid> 95% download
[20:38] <LucidDreamZzZ> vale__, what happens when you click
[20:39] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, Are you on Desktop or laptop?
[20:39] <doomlord> anyone know if jedit or kate can apply folding to a source langauge that they dont recognize (eg Rust) - i just tried loading files in these editors and didn't seem to have the code-folding ability enabled
[20:39] <Pici> CheckDavid: The channel is already busy as it is, we don't need those sort of updates.
[20:39] <deepocean> how do you list your disk partition again? df -l ?
[20:39] <vale__> LucidDreamZzZ absolutely nothing
[20:39] <MidnightNinja> Laptop
[20:40] <k1l> deepocean: sudo fdisk -l
[20:40] <IdleOne> !nomodeset | vale__
[20:40] <deepocean> thanks k1l
[20:40] <CheckDavid> Please accept my apologies Pici.
[20:41] <vale__> ok, someone has answered me on lubuntu channel talking about nomode too
[20:41] <vale__> and ubuntu forum is down
[20:41] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, Ahhh, ok
[20:41] <LucidDreamZzZ> try DWM if you like using just the keyboard
[20:41] <LucidDreamZzZ> ;p
[20:42] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, Would you like me to give the repo for Razorqt?
[20:42] <LucidDreamZzZ> no bloat at all
[20:42] <CheckDavid> ok, now Unetbootin just stopped =/
[20:42] <CheckDavid> Ok, sorry, false alartm, just incredibly slow apparently while extracting files.
[20:43] <curatrix> CheckDavid: Just wait, it takes a minute at the end of the write
[20:43] <CheckDavid> It was actually at the beginning took around 4 minutes to reach 6%, and then took 1 second to get to around 80%
[20:43] <CheckDavid> So yeah, thanks, now I will expect another hiccup =)
[20:43] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, would you pleas add my name to comments? It makes it easyer to find your post
[20:45] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, unless you are bordcasting it to the general public. This highlits your messages as red for me so that I know you're posting.
[20:46] <CheckDavid> Sure, I am taking that into account. Thanks for reminding me.
[20:46] <CheckDavid> It's nothing important as of now =)
[20:46] <deepocean> usr13, are you still around?
[20:46] <LucidDreamZzZ> !ask
[20:47] <LucidDreamZzZ> deepocean, how you doing?
[20:48] <GunArm> I ran deluged with the option --logfile=~/deluge.log and it actually created a folder IN my home folder named ~
[20:48] <deepocean> LucidDreamZzZ, good, reinstalled Ubuntu, was a breeze. However somehow now I have an extra partition I never created?? http://pastebin.com/NBWgm9U5
[20:48] <deepocean> usr13, check this out ^
[20:49] <deepocean> LucidDreamZzZ, usr13 I am talking about the SDA5 /swap. I never created this. Can I just delete this?
[20:50] <IdleOne> deepocean: it is only 8GB and you probably want it if you plan on hybernating
[20:50] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, How goes it?
[20:51] <LucidDreamZzZ> that is an odd layout you have extended with a swap filling it, then two primary partitions
[20:51] <LucidDreamZzZ> how will that boot?
[20:51] <deepocean> IdleOne, please note I have another /swap (SDA1) that is 10GB
[20:51] <IdleOne> deepocean: sda1 is not makred as swap
[20:51] <IdleOne> marked*
[20:51] <Cpudan80> Hello folks
[20:51] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, I isntalled it and it says 408Kb free on my USB drive lol
[20:51] <LucidDreamZzZ> i thought /boot had to be near beginning of disk
[20:52] <Cpudan80> Does anyone know if there is an ovirt-engine package for Ubuntu 12.04 (or newer) ?
[20:52] <deepocean> IdleOne, ah shoot I see. Can I make that swap and remove SDA5?
[20:52] <Cpudan80> ovirt seems to indicate that you have to compile it from source
[20:52] <CheckDavid> What? So weird, I just checked the US files, and Wubi.exe is in there RaveYoda
[20:52] <pierre1> Hi! How do I go about suppressing these warnings "WARNING **: Can't load fallback CSS resource: Failed to import: The resource at '/org/gnome/adwaita/gtk-fallback.css' does not exist" everytime I load an application through the terminal?
[20:52] <IdleOne> deepocean: you will need to delete both and then make sda1 swap but yes you can
[20:53] <LucidDreamZzZ> the installer did that deepocean ?
[20:53] <IdleOne> deepocean: you sure there is nothing on sda1?
[20:53] <LucidDreamZzZ> hmm
[20:53] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, That's fine. Your mem is still with that 2gb
[20:54] <joshu_> trim ping ;)
[20:54] <joshu_> trism ping
[20:54] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, As for wubi.exe, yeaahhh I don't know why that's there
[20:54] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, hw do you know?
[20:54] <deepocean> IdleOne, Yes nothing there. So I boot in Live Ubuntu I guess, delete SDA1 and change it into swap. and delete SDA5. Can I resize SDA3 to swallow/include the deleted SDA5?
[20:54] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, leave as is I say,lol
[20:54] <vale__> mh, the nomodeset only gave me the lubuntu logo. apart from that, the screen flashes over and over again
[20:54] <CheckDavid> Oh ok RaveYoda , brb if it goes well ?D
[20:55] <CheckDavid> =D
[20:55] <deepocean> LucidDreamZzZ, I think I may have double created this swap partition.
[20:55] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, how do i know what? and ok
[20:55] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda> CheckDavid, That's fine. Your mem is still with that 2gb <-- this, how you know?
[20:55] <IdleOne> deepocean: after deleting sda5 (swap) you can then extend sda3 to use that space
[20:55] <LucidDreamZzZ> you have 2 MB for MBR thats good grub2 ids bloated..
[20:55] <deepocean> IdleOne, nice
[20:56] <LucidDreamZzZ> but you still need /boot near start of disk i thought...
[20:56] <CheckDavid> Also RaveYoda, it didn't wipe my USB file, a folder I had in there is still there
[20:56] <deepocean> LucidDreamZzZ, who are you talking to about GRUB
[20:56] <bekks> The MBR is always just 448 Bytes.
[20:56] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, oh, the way the mem is read it only sees what's taking the space. Not how it's being taken. I think anyway.
[20:57] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, like is said. been a while sense i used it
[20:57] <CheckDavid> Ok, RaveYoda thanks. I am not sure about whatyou saying but anyway brb =P
[20:57] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid,  I may be thinking of pendrive
[20:57] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid,  ok, good luck
[20:57] <RaveYoda> =p
[20:58] <LucidDreamZzZ> deepocean, sda1 should be / or /boot unless you leave the extended and put /boot inside
[20:59] <trism> joshu_: hello, what's up?
[20:59] <euxneks> how does one write a specific unicode character in ubuntu through the keyboard if one knows the number?
[20:59] <LucidDreamZzZ> and then it will be sda5
[21:00] <curatrix> euxneks: alt and then the char code
[21:00] <deepocean> LucidDreamZzZ, so I messed up again?
[21:00] <euxneks> for instance, unicode character
[21:00] <euxneks> char
[21:00] <euxneks> gar sorry
[21:00] <joshu_> trism have you build custom "ubuntus" with ubuntu mini as a starting point?
[21:00] <curatrix> euxneks: Its been a while, but I think you hold alt and type the number whilst holding alt
[21:00] <joshu_> *built
[21:00] <Ben64> euxneks: usually ctrl+shift+u+number
[21:01] <IdleOne> deepocean: no you didn't
[21:01] <euxneks> ⢁ oh snap Ben64 that's correct. thanks
[21:01] <IdleOne> deepocean: ignore the random comments of the unhelpful :)
[21:02] <deepocean> IdleOne, I wonder sda1 and sda5 have the same start number (2046) and the same end number
[21:02] <trism> joshu_: sure, what's the question?
[21:02] <ryan_12345> hi guys, how do I burn a iso with Ubuntu
[21:02] <ryan_12345> onto a USB
[21:02] <joshu_> trism I have many..to avoid spamming here can we move to PM?
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> !burn | ryan_12345
[21:03] <curatrix> !ask
[21:03] <ryan_12345> MonkeyDust: this is a Windows ISO though
[21:03] <trism> joshu_: I'd rather not, I don't know that I can necessarily answer them
[21:03] <IdleOne> deepocean: that is odd, not sure why. Just continue with the plan to delete sda1 and make it swap. just don't mess with sda2 as that is your boot partition.
[21:03] <joshu_> trism ok no problem let's try here then and anyone else can chime in if needed.
[21:03] <LucidDreamZzZ> well, start over and make sda3 sda1 instead (/), leave sda2 (/home), and make sda3 the swap
[21:04] <Ben64> LucidDreamZzZ: it really doesn't matter what order they're in
[21:04] <LucidDreamZzZ> no?
[21:04] <deepocean> IdleOne, Ok
[21:04] <joshu_> trism as I mentioned I'm building a custom ubuntu for a specific purpose. At the moment I have the base system setup and working on fixing/ configuring what I need.
[21:04] <deepocean> LucidDreamZzZ, sda2 is not home but root
[21:04] <deepocean> brb
[21:04] <vale__> anybody please can help me with "nomodeset" option not working?
[21:05] <Rekenoak> hi, anyone knows how to configure grub in order to boot a mac os partition? My problem: When i select the mac partition, It begins to load until appears a message like "Still waiting for root device". Info: Ive install on a logical partition and mac and his efi partition on a primary partiton.
[21:05] <joshu_> trism I have started with ubuntu min i13.04 then install xserver-xorg, lightdm, notify-osd and light-themes
[21:05] <LucidDreamZzZ> what about /boot will grub find it?
[21:06] <pierre1> hans_henrik is now known as porn
[21:06] <pierre1> ok
[21:06] <IdleOne> LucidDreamZzZ: he doesn't need a separate /boot. Please stop being random and confusing others
[21:06] <LucidDreamZzZ> i didnt say htat
[21:07] <joshu_> trism I still have a lot of work to do, but I'm already researching how to take this custom ubuntu and deploy it to 5 laptops identical hardware. I've read a little about pre seeding, ubuntu builder and someone mentioned clonezilla. If you've done this before what would you suggest?
[21:07] <LucidDreamZzZ> where did i say seperate boot
[21:07] <IdleOne> LucidDreamZzZ: so why keep brining it up if it isn't an issue?
[21:07] <IdleOne> Just please stop with the randomness
[21:07] <RaveYoda> Rekenoak, did you go into ubuntu nand run sudo update-grub
[21:07] <k1l> when installing you just need /. /home and  /swap are optional but in most cases you want them. /boot is just needed for special purposes like encrypting. but then you know you want one
[21:07] <LucidDreamZzZ> the bzimage has to be near start of disk not 8gb inside?
[21:08] <MasterBot> Hello
[21:08] <vale__> joshu_ I've personally used clonezilla many times to do something like that
[21:08] <MasterBot> I would like some help: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=105925
[21:08] <LucidDreamZzZ> not a problem?  idk i guess i always put it there since DHS
[21:08] <LucidDreamZzZ> CHS*
[21:08] <Nach0z> IdleOne: don't believe he means /boot as a separate partition
[21:08] <Nach0z> strictly speaking it's just a directory
[21:09] <LucidDreamZzZ> yea really
[21:09] <LucidDreamZzZ> what is confusing???
[21:09] <LucidDreamZzZ> hmm
[21:09] <LucidDreamZzZ> u guys are funny noobs
[21:09] <Nach0z> not sure how it's relevant because I haven't been paying attention, but yeah.
[21:09]  * curatrix chuckles
[21:09] <joshu_> vale__ I'm currently building the system in a VM on my Mac. Once I'm done would you use clonezilla on that or is it better to rebuild the system on the actual laptop hardware and then clonezilla?
[21:10] <hans_henrik> pierre1, (did it to mess with a bot in an other channel; and freenode dont allow changing nick on just 1 specific channel AFAIK, and i happend to be connected to #ubuntu when doing it,  it had nothing to do with #ubuntu btw)
[21:10] <vale__> joshu_ I would install it first on the actual machine, then clone it with clonezilla, just to be sure
[21:11] <IdleOne> Nach0z: right, in this case /boot being mentioned was not relevant because the / partition which has /boot wasn't being touched.
[21:11] <RaveYoda> Rekenoak, Again, did you go into ubuntu and run sudo update-grub
[21:11] <IdleOne> That other user was just being confusing on purpose for the heck of it
[21:11] <LucidDreamZzZ> you are just funny
[21:11] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, Kernel Panic :(
[21:12] <Ben64> what is the "correct" way to get windows the default in grub?
[21:12] <curatrix> joshu_: On only five machines, it is probably not worth screwing with clones/custom ISO's. I would just write a log and do them all by hand
[21:12] <curatrix> Ben64: Modify the custom40 file and update grub
[21:12] <pierre1> hans_henrik, no problemo
[21:12] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, nmkjhghjkuhfgcgvbghnjhgfdszxfcgbhj
[21:13] <FfoO> Good evening, everyone. Does any one knows any application or command which I can manage to recover my old OS in a new partition using ubuntu precise? I have too much installed to lose everything. Thank you in advance.
[21:13] <Ben64> curatrix: really? i thought that was the hacky way?
[21:13] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Ok  you'll just have to redo the iso burn
[21:13] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, sorry? lol
[21:13] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, just that?
[21:13] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Not your fault mate.
[21:13]  * curatrix thinks that if it the way Ive been doing it ....it prolly is the hacky way ;)
[21:13] <Ben64> !recover | FfoO
[21:13] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Reburn the ubuntu iso ton the usb
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> !details | FfoO
[21:14] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, same iso same usb, just redo?
[21:14] <Ben64> curatrix: thats why i wanted the "correct" way :D I know all the hacky ways to do stuff
[21:14] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, yup
[21:14] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, It happens
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> FfoO, That is hardly enough information
[21:14] <FfoO> The referrence is alwary gold. Thank you so much.
[21:14] <deepocean> Hi
[21:14] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, I sometimes had to do it 3-4 times before it was done right
[21:14] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, oh, can you tell me a bit more as to why this happens?
[21:15] <joshu_> curatrix really manually?
[21:15] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, You can try Pendrive linux instead of unetbootin too
[21:15] <deepocean> Back again
[21:15] <CheckDavid> These things often mystifie me RaveYoda
[21:15] <curatrix> joshu_: Yeah. Five machines shouldnt take long
[21:15] <IdleOne> Ben64: there is a GUI tool to edit grub and what to boot as default, all it does is exactly what curatrix said.
[21:16] <joshu_> vale__ with Windows and cloning you need to do all kinds of shit with sys prep to make sure each clone is different….with ubuntu and clonezilla is this the same or you just clone and they're good to go?
[21:16] <RaveYoda> The program just fails to unpackn the iso to the usb correctly
[21:16] <deepocean> IdleOne: I am now in Ubuntu Live however something very weird is going on
[21:16] <curatrix> IdleOne: Its, cool, Ben64 is a vet
[21:16] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, The program just fails to unpack the iso to the usb correctly
[21:16] <IdleOne> deepocean: exactly what?
[21:16] <Ben64> ok cool. didn't know if there was something like dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc or something that would do it more fancily
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> joshu_, Please don't swear this is a reoccurring thing with you.
[21:16] <RaveYoda> You may need to format the usb to fat32 too
[21:17] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, You may need to format the usb to fat32 too
[21:17] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, i386 is 32 or 64 bits?
[21:17] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, 32  bit
[21:17] <deepocean> IdleOne: as soon as I get into the installer I no longer can see the SDA5
[21:17] <joshu_> curatrix true but repeatability and making sure each one is identical although it is possible if you're meticulous which I am :P I think I would prefer an automated way.
[21:17] <CheckDavid> Oh thanks.
[21:17] <joshu_> wilee-nilee excuse me?!
[21:17] <IdleOne> deepocean: why are you in the installer?
[21:17] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, but it doesn't matter if it's 32 or 64 unless you have more than 4gb RAM
[21:18] <deepocean> IdleOne: I am starting to think I may have messed up the Primary/Logical disk settings
[21:18] <Ben64> RaveYoda: not true, 64 bit does not just allow more memory
[21:18] <CheckDavid> Now I realize how I should have downloaded the iso manually. Apparently when Unetbootin downloads it by himself, it is only stored temporarily, now I have to download again  RaveYoda
[21:18] <IdleOne> deepocean: you should be booting to the live environment and using gparted to edit the partitions
[21:18] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, besides, i386 works on older hardware too
[21:18] <deepocean> IdleOne: how does that work exactly?
[21:18] <curatrix> CheckDavid: Use a torrent  and seed please
[21:18] <deepocean> IdleOne: I think I am in the live environment
[21:19] <meffff> hi
[21:19] <natix> hi
[21:19] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, XD Yupp, it's an annoying part of Unet
[21:19] <BrYku> i disconnected  external monitor and taskbar disappeared (i'm using lubuntu)  what i should do?
[21:19] <CheckDavid> curatrix, I never used torrent software
[21:19] <k1l> deepocean: use a live system and start gparted (that is a grafical partitioning program) then you can hand us a screenshot to understand your setup
[21:19] <IdleOne> deepocean: when you boot the cd/usb it offers you to either Try Ubuntu or Install Ubuntu, you want to Try Ubuntu and work from there
[21:19] <meffff> how to install chandler on ubuntu 12.04?
[21:19] <Ben64> !find chandler
[21:19] <deepocean> k1l: IdleOne Ok will do.
[21:19] <vale__> joshu_ if I've got your question right, you just clone and it's good to go. at least, what I did was installing the OS on the first pc, then I used clonezilla to clone the entire HD, saved on a external HD and then used clonezilla on the other pcs with the HD cloned from the first pc
[21:19] <vale__> that's all, I can't get any more technical, sorry
[21:20] <Ben64> meffff: doesn't appear to be in the repositories, what is it?
[21:20] <meffff> it's not found for me...
[21:20] <meffff> it's a personal manager
[21:20] <deepocean> k1l: made screenshot but where is it saved?
[21:20] <joshu_> vale__ no problem. I'll google clonezilla to find out more. Btw have you used clonezilla over the internet can that be done?
[21:20] <Ben64> meffff: well since its not in the default repos, you have to look for a ppa or something for it, which is not supported here
[21:21] <vale__> joshu_ no, I didn't
[21:21] <ryan123> I want to install windows xp back on my Pc and I think Ubuntu is stooping me for installing it
[21:21] <k1l> deepocean: in /home or in /home/Pictures if you didnt specify another place
[21:21] <IdleOne> ryan123: how is it stopping you from installing windows?
[21:21] <RaveYoda> Ben64, You are correct but that's the bigger point of 64bit.
[21:21] <deepocean> k1l: I check there, nothing there
[21:22] <Ben64> RaveYoda: not really
[21:22] <ryan123> Keeps on giving me errors on the HDD
[21:22] <pierre1> Hi again! How do I go about suppressing these warnings "WARNING **: Can't load fallback CSS resource: Failed to import: The resource at '/org/gnome/adwaita/gtk-fallback.css' does not exist" everytime I load an application through the terminal?
[21:22] <ryan123> and lines of codes are wrong
[21:22] <RaveYoda> Ben64, meh
[21:22] <IdleOne> ryan123: also for help with installing windows you should ask in ##windows
[21:22] <OerHeks> ryan123, did you touch the bios setting [IDE/AHCI] ?
[21:22] <Dr_willis> pierre1,  you can pipe the stderr and stdout to /dev/null      perhaps.
[21:22] <k1l> deepocean: for me its the picture folder in /home
[21:23] <ryan123> OerHeks: I can't rememer shall I check and what shall I do about uijt
[21:23] <OerHeks> ryan123, set it to IDE and you are fine, support in ##windows.
[21:23] <pierre1> Dr_willis, I mean, definitively, like fixing the problem (but not necessarily)
[21:24] <deepocean> k1l: checked again its not there. Any program like paint that I can use to paste the image in?
[21:25] <OerHeks> !find paint
[21:25] <OerHeks> mypaint is cool
[21:27] <RaveYoda> MidnightNinja, Any progress?
[21:30] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, I'll be back in a bit
[21:31] <deepocean> k1l: IdleOne http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/cbfo.png/
[21:34] <unknown_> hi
[21:34] <k1l> deepocean: the sda1 is a primary extended partition. inside of that there is the sda5 which is the swap
[21:34] <unknown_> ok ok people im here
[21:35] <k1l> deepocean: what is that actual problem now?
[21:35] <Casey> any good reason why Ubuntu makes my 1Gb nic run as 100Mb?
[21:35] <IdleOne> deepocean: from that screenshot it doesn't look like you need to do anything :)
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> unknown_, Heh, thanks for the warning.
[21:35] <reisio> Casey: did it used to run higher?
[21:36] <gQuigs> Casey:  sure the ethernet cable is rated at 1 GB?  and the router, etc?
[21:36] <k1l> deepocean: if you want to reinstall anyway i would change a bit, but if not you are fine with that setting
[21:36] <reisio> and all the wiring done properly
[21:36] <reisio> and your ISP
[21:36] <reisio> blah blah
[21:37] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, I'm back
[21:37] <Casey> reisio: never noticed until I happen to glanced at my router and its reporting 100Mb instead of 1Gb its cat5e and less than 20 meter cable.
[21:37] <joshu_> my laptop has an and 7340 graphics card and by default 13.04 uses the open source xserver-xorg-video-ati driver. When I try to adjust the brightness the slider changes, but not the actual brightness. With the proprietary fglrx I don't have this issue.
[21:37] <k1l> deepocean: and the sda2 (labeled boot) is not the /boot its just got a boot flag (which is/was only needed for windows partitions). sda2 should be /, sda3 /home
[21:38] <reisio> Casey: so it may have always been that way
[21:39] <Casey> reisio: router WNDR3700v4; yes could have always ran that way (but this motherboard has only seen ubuntu)
[21:39] <reisio> right, still a problem, just harder to tell if it's a new one :)
[21:39] <deepocean> k1l: how would you install it correctly?
[21:39] <k1l> deepocean: there is no need to reinstall at all.
[21:40] <CheckDavid> hey RaveYoda  =)
[21:41] <curatrix> Casey: Is it integrated onboard? (eg a fixture on the mobo?
[21:41] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, It works?
[21:41] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, ITell me it works
[21:41] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, I did download it again fortunatelly, I am now reinstalling.
[21:41] <deepocean> k1l: you just said I would have done a bit different
[21:42] <Casey> reisio: sigh, just looked at the specs on a different site. Reports only 10/100      pretty crappy for a AM3+ motherboard.... has usb3.0, ddr3,  etc...really? all that and only 10/100...lame sorry to waste time...
[21:42] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Oh...ok. If it doesn't work this time use pendrivelinux
[21:42] <k1l> deepocean: you did that partitioning on your own?
[21:42] <Casey> Guess I'll have to install a 1Gb card :(
[21:42] <deepocean> k1l: Yes.
[21:42] <reisio> Casey: weird, but
[21:42] <reisio> Casey: onboard :p
[21:42] <curatrix> Casey: You can still add a daughter board that is capable of 1GB/z
[21:43] <curatrix> *1GB/s
[21:43] <CheckDavid> Why wouldn't unetbootin work RaveYoda ?
[21:43] <deepocean> k1l: I have nothing installed yet, if not ideal I would rather change now than later.
[21:43] <reisio> some work when some don't
[21:43] <Casey> curatrix: yeah I have a card lawing around I guess I'll install
[21:43] <reisio> but IME unetbootin is the one that works when others don't :p
[21:43] <Casey> laying around**
[21:43] <reisio> dd is probably the most reliable way, but tricky :)
[21:43] <curatrix> Casey: Break a lege
[21:43] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, 'casuse it hates me and doesn't seem to like you yet.
[21:43] <reisio> and not all USB sticks and mobos and BIOSes work :)
[21:43] <k1l> deepocean: its fine. i put the swap at the end, because i am used to it since the beginning. but now i dont have a swaptoday because i havve 4  gb ram and dont use suspend. i got a ssd which boots faster than suspend is
[21:44] <k1l> deepocean: technically the setup is fine. its just a matter of taste how to arrange the partitions
[21:44] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid,  So we do the logical move of using another program,lol.
[21:44] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, oh ok, so complicated this stuff =(
[21:45] <deepocean> k1l: right and how would you arrange it in my case? btw where is sda4?
[21:45] <andreas1> Hello friends, new linux user here, im in need of some assistance to download and install programs wich isnt supported in my apt
[21:45] <k1l> deepocean: sda4 is reserved for the 4th primary partition. sda5 is inside the extended.
[21:45] <Casey> dear god, I was looking at the wrong MB yet again, it does have 10/100/1000 (sorry I've boughten a lot of crap from newegg.com lately...ok I'm back to square one...
[21:46] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid,  Trust me, this is the easy part,lol. XD Wait till you get repo conflicts and half installed programs
[21:46] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, what? :(
[21:46] <andreas1> Oh theres more : o Well basics first i geuss
[21:46] <deepocean> k1l: ah ok. I assume you can only have 4 primary partions then
[21:46] <CheckDavid> Please no RaveYoda lol
[21:46] <curatrix> Casey: Check the bios/cmos. There is often a setting for lan speed
[21:46] <deepocean> k1l: Ok I will boot back into Ubuntu again
[21:46] <deepocean> brb
[21:47] <k1l> deepocean: yes. only 4 primary possible
[21:47] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, ah damn now bootin crashed. Well well, so you said what? Pendrivelinux?
[21:47] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Linux is great when it works but a total bit** when it doesn't
[21:48] <Casey> Just to clarify; here is the board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138373
[21:48] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Yup
[21:48] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[21:49] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, wait wait wait, wrong link
[21:50] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, though that is a great site
[21:50] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, here is the link for the program:: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[21:50] <bughead> hi
[21:51] <reisio> hi
[21:51] <deepocean> k1l,  thank you for your assistance
[21:51] <CheckDavid> I found it through ubuntu.com RaveYoda but thanks
[21:51] <Casey> when I go to network tools it says link speed not available. I can't restart right now, doing a data recovery on machine
[21:52] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Oh, well ether way it's the only other program I know of that will burn the img to the usn
[21:52] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, If you were in Ubuntu i'd recommend Multisystem
[21:52] <curatrix> CheckDavid: Did you download the ISO first or are you using unetbootin to fetch the data?
[21:53] <RaveYoda> curatrix,  he downloaded it the first time with unet
[21:53] <bughead> im having a problem using ubuntu 13, unity is so damn slow, i have a intel xeon e3-1230 and 16 gb ram and some graphicscard i found (ati hd 5xxx), is it slow because of the gpu?
[21:54] <RaveYoda> curatrix,  second time through ubus site
[21:54] <CheckDavid> In ubuntu RaveYoda ?
[21:54] <CheckDavid> curatrix, yeah, I relied on Unetbooin to download it for me
[21:54] <curatrix> bughead: Most likely, yes
[21:54] <curatrix> CheckDavid: FWIW I always download the iso first (it seems to be more stable)
[21:55] <CheckDavid> Weird.
[21:55] <bughead> curatrix: ok, i thought so, i used arch linux with awesome and other ubuntu distros like lubuntu and they were all pretty fast.
[21:55] <CheckDavid> But I did that now
[21:55] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, Multisystem is handy for burning multiple isoes to usb. It's only for linux though
[21:55] <curatrix> bughead: You should be able to use the fglrx driver.
[21:55] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, Ah, I have only 4 gb in it anyway =P
[21:56] <curatrix> bughead: The HD's will always run a little hot but it should be fast
[21:56] <bughead> curatrix: i used to try it some months ago, but it was incompatible and killed the system^ ^
[21:56] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, XD Yes, so a bit small. My 8gb usb has three isoes on it for comp repair and disinfecting.
[21:57] <bughead> but i give it a second try, i hope i come back
[21:57] <curatrix> bughead: I shouldnt probably say it in here but you could try Mint 13 (ubuntu base).   It works reasonably well (touch wood) with the HD GPU's
[21:57] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, Is the persistent file a sort of save file?
[21:57] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, YUMI (for windows) seems to be a good alternative to Multisystem
[21:58] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, It's the location that stores you're info like docs and stuff. Aparently it can be used to install other programs too.
[21:58] <CheckDavid> I see
[21:59] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, but adding programs can break the live install sys as was said by the other fella.
[22:00] <CheckDavid> If it breaks I install again
[22:01] <CheckDavid> Also, the persistent file step is taking forever.
[22:01] <bughead> im back, my system didnt break, but i have a nice transparent picture on the right-lower corner saying "amd unsupported hardware" ^ ^
[22:01] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, it takes time
[22:02] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, about 2-3 minutes i'd give a tenative guess?
[22:02] <curatrix> bughead: It might pay to sudo apt-get purge fglrx       and then try the amd installer
[22:02] <CheckDavid> 2-3 minutes? No, the bar is on the same place for the past, maybe 10 minutes RaveYoda
[22:03] <CheckDavid> Apparently I have no way of checking if something is being done or this is simply stuck RaveYoda ?
[22:03] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, This is in? Unetbootin or the other program
[22:03] <turkish> hey guys
[22:03] <deepocean> hi
[22:03] <CheckDavid> THe new one you gave me.
[22:03] <CheckDavid> RaveYoda, ^
[22:03] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, I hate windows....
[22:04] <turkish> Which is the best os ubuntu  or mint?
[22:04] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, right click on the task bar and go to task manager
[22:04] <CheckDavid> I need it to launch ubuntu anyway =(
[22:04] <curatrix> turkish: it is the same girl with a different dress
[22:04] <CheckDavid> Whoaaa, it went full in a split second now
[22:05] <turkish> I have both got fed up with shitty windows
[22:05] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, the should be a tab that shows the number of your cores and stuff running
[22:05] <CheckDavid> OK bye Imma try to laucnh this RaveYoda I am short on time
[22:05] <RaveYoda> CheckDavid, It finished?
[22:05] <bughead> well i read to use flgrx-updates and i did, the watermark is gone
[22:05] <bughead> but still really slow
[22:05] <turkish> I was speaking to some people who have siad the new ubuntu wasn't upto much?
[22:06] <turkish> and they suggested mint
[22:06] <k1l> turkish: better ask in ##linux
[22:06] <bughead> maybe somebody can recommand me a good graphics card with good compatibility and good to use with steam on linux
[22:06] <curatrix> turkish: I prefer xfce on mint (for my daily driver)
[22:06] <k1l> turkish: as this is the ubuntu support channel we will suggest ubuntu because that is what is supported here
[22:06] <turkish> ok lol
[22:07] <RaveYoda> turkish,  go with Mint Mate edition
[22:07] <meffff> hi
[22:07] <k1l> !mint
[22:07] <meffff> I can't launch any applications on ubuntu 12.04
[22:08] <RaveYoda> kll, ok ok
[22:08] <turkish> ne good tuts/guide to get me used  to linux  i am not used  to doing stuff from the command line
[22:08] <meffff> apps are not listed in the launcher
[22:11] <curatrix> bughead: If you go into the catalyst control center .......turn all settings  to performance.  This should get back 99%of your speed
[22:11] <meffff> I also can't start the terminal
[22:12] <curatrix> meffff: It may be a one off glitch......Can you perform a restart with the power button
[22:12] <Guest56179> olaaa
[22:13] <meffff> I can but not sure if I'll be able to open a browser after that
[22:13] <abaddon_> CheckDavid, i'll be back later. Hope it all works out
[22:14] <meffff> I performed some installations (failed) and then sudo apt-get install  -f
[22:14] <meffff> after that I got the problem
[22:14] <curatrix> ewwww
[22:14] <curatrix> try sudo apt-get autoremove
[22:14] <bughead> curatrix: i've done it, no improvement
[22:15] <bughead> hd5450
[22:15] <curatrix> bughead: Is it running hot?
[22:17] <[1]tom> made a 12.04 live dvd, and i want to overwrite the 10.04 i have installed now. following the installer, it said the minimum partition size i could make was something like 140gb; that doesnt sound right to me
[22:17] <bughead> curatrix: well i dont know, the cooling body is touchable
[22:18] <CheckDavid_> RaveYoda, Well, stuck again at that screen with ubuntu on the center of it, yet this time no message saying it was the first time I was running it.
[22:19] <Guest95684> hi all, i am getting a message like Kernel panic not syncing: vfs unable to mount root file system, this is an other laptop, and i also encounter problems to shutdown, ple
[22:19] <Guest95684> ase help me
[22:19] <Guest95684> is there a security issue this days?
[22:19] <Guest95684> *these days..
[22:20]  * curatrix is getting a coffee .......back in a tick
[22:21] <xiudo> Hello everyone
[22:21] <xiudo> In for 1 Ubuntu Edge :D
[22:21] <xiudo> whooohoo
[22:22] <unpredictx> türk varmı
[22:23] <OerHeks> !tr
[22:24] <unpredictx>  /join #ubuntu-tr
[22:24] <OerHeks> no space before /
[22:27] <DoWhileGeek> why is ubuntu forums down?
[22:27] <CheckDavid_> Hey RaveYoda you there?
[22:28] <OerHeks> DoWhileGeek, you know as much as we do, join #ubuntuforum for discussion
[22:28] <DoWhileGeek> OerHeks +1
[22:29] <OerHeks> and keep hitting F5 offcourse
[22:29] <CheckDavid_> Mr RaveYoda , you there? =)
[22:30] <DoWhileGeek> OerHeks, not sure if im dumb or your trolling..
[22:30] <unpredictx> what else would you recommend Ubuntu distribution.
[22:30] <unpredictx> guys what else would you recommend Ubuntu distribution.
[22:31] <reisio> unpredictx: that's hard to parse
[22:32] <k1l> unpredictx: go with ubuntu
[22:32] <[Raiden]> unpredictx: try kubuntu
[22:32] <OerHeks> ubuntu 1gb xubuntu 512 mb lubuntu 256 mb
[22:33]  * OerHeks loves Kubuntu
[22:33] <[Raiden]> and im
[22:33] <curatrix> bughead: I am thinking of two possibilities, one. too much eye-candy  or two , a process is hogging the cpu.
[22:34] <OerHeks> DoWhileGeek, not trolling, we know as much as the ubuntuforum page says: problem solved, now restoring backups.
[22:35] <curatrix> bughead:  the eye-candy is easy to fix ...... Though a runaway process could be tricky. (a lan/wifi/bt module is commonly at fault here)
[22:37] <bughead> curatrix: well a cpu at max 10 % and 1 gb ram is used, but using the unity menu is still very slow
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> unpredictx, There are 100's of options do like us and find one you like, this is actual support.
[22:38] <bughead> curatrix: the animation is not smooth , and it takes a lot of time to open programs, but when the programs are started they run normally
[22:39] <bughead> curatrix: i never had this problem with unity2d
[22:39] <mefff> I can't load a session in ubuntu 12.04.
[22:39] <D-coy> xD
[22:40] <curatrix> bughead: It is likely to be unity (it is pretty resource intensive). Not much you can do beyond turning off the eye-candy and ensuring that the display is running at the right resolution
[22:40] <n00b33> hi. anybody familiar with the google-earth package?
[22:40] <mefff> after running install ubuntu desktop I got gconf2 error
[22:40] <curatrix> n00b33: it is playing up
[22:41] <bughead> curatrix: well i tried using ubuntu tweak and ccsm turning off all the eye candy, but it seems not to work...
[22:41] <curatrix> n00b33: I can get it to work(limited) if I manually start it from its source location /opt/ something something
[22:42] <n00b33> im running a acer one (aoa-150) using the intel 945 gma graphics chip.  Google-earth kinda bytch slapped me and said I needed a better graphics card. LOL!  Any work-arounds?
[22:42] <joshu_> anyone familiar with this https://launchpad.net/lightdm-remote-session-freerdp and can please explain how to use it from lightdm? Does it only work if you have an account with canonical?
[22:44] <curatrix> n00b33: googleearth isnt working on linux at the moment
[22:44] <n00b33> so i should try /opt/ from the commandline... oh okay
[22:44] <n00b33> *boggles*
[22:44] <curatrix> n00b33: no
[22:44] <joshu_> when I say account I mean UCCS
[22:46] <curatrix> n00b33: it is in /opt/google/earth/free/
[22:46] <deepocean> Why is it taking for ages before the installation of a simple program completes?
[22:46] <shahan> hiya, how would I view all installed "programs"/Packages  arranged by size, as in everything installed on my computer?
[22:47] <FreezingCold> What hashing method did the forum use?
[22:47] <FreezingCold> sha or md5?
[22:47] <curatrix> deepocean: We are all sharing the server (for free) and the poor thing can only take so much
[22:47] <deepocean> Ah ok :D
[22:47] <mefff> gconf2 gives an error when trying to install ubuntu desktop.
[22:47] <FreezingCold> In case you guys missed it, all of our usernames, email and "encrypted" passwords were leaked on the Ubuntu forums
[22:47] <curatrix> linux is too good ;)
[22:48] <deepocean> FreezingCold, what do you mean?
[22:48] <k1l> FreezingCold: #ubuntuforums
[22:48] <anonymous_12> hi
[22:48] <FreezingCold> deepocean: forums got hacked
[22:48] <FreezingCold> k1l: thanjks
[22:48] <anonymous_12> hi gays
[22:48] <FreezingCold> goodbye anonymous_12
[22:48] <deepocean> FreezingCold, ah ok. Good thing I am not registered.
[22:49] <FreezingCold> deepocean: I forgot I even was
[22:49] <anonymous_12> do you live
[22:49] <deepocean> hehe
[22:49] <deepocean> FreezingCold, hope you dont have the same password for your email
[22:49] <n00b33> curatrix:  is there a package for 3d shader support for an aoa-150 (acer aspire one) with gma 945?
[22:50] <k1l> FreezingCold: deepocean everyone go notified by email. so for further discussion please join #ubuntu-offtopic to keep this channel clear for support
[22:50] <deepocean> ok
[22:50] <k1l> *got
[22:51] <deepocean> I am running PlayOnLinux now so I can install MS Office 2010. Moment of truth for me! as a windows switcher
[22:51] <myne3> hihi all
[22:51] <queenmoeblob> hey
[22:51] <deepocean> hello
[22:52] <reisio> deepocean: install libreoffice instead
[22:52] <reisio> myne3: hi
[22:52] <deepocean> reisio, I am not in the liberty of doing that. I need office for work
[22:52] <myne3> hi got some problems when to install wireless card driver for broadcom
[22:53] <reisio> deepocean: nah
[22:53] <myne3> somebody can help me ...
[22:53] <deepocean> reisio, did you happen to be Gentoo user in the  past?
[22:53] <deepocean> ok
[22:53] <reisio> deepocean: past, present, future
[22:53] <deepocean> haha
[22:53] <curatrix> n00b33: I dont know.
[22:53] <myne3> sory im new to linux os
[22:53] <Hilikus> sometimes my system doesn't shut down. the screen goes black but the CPU is still powered. i check my log and the the last thing i see is
[22:54] <Hilikus> Jul 23 01:15:30 hilikus-pc gnome-session[1635]: CRITICAL: gsm_manager_set_phase: assertion `GSM_IS_MANAGER (manager)' failed
[22:54] <Hilikus> Jul 23 01:15:30 hilikus-pc gnome-session[1635]: Gtk-CRITICAL: gtk_main_quit: assertion `main_loops != NULL' failed
[22:54] <queenmoeblob_> Every couple of minutes my fricking screen goes black and this text goes by too quickly for me to read [but I think it says something about cups??] and it's really annoying urgh
[22:54] <curatrix> queenmoeblob: cups is a print server for *nix
[22:54] <abaddon_> CheckDavid, iYou there?
[22:55] <deepocean> what mobile phones do you guys use?
[22:55] <myne3> somebody can help me?with my driver installation on obuntu
[22:56] <k1l> !ot | deepocean
[22:56] <reisio> deepocean: I use a phone that is smart
[22:56] <abaddon_> myne3, what isd the driver?
[22:56] <deepocean> myne3, I am a beginner too, but you may want to be more specific about your problem.
[22:56] <curatrix> myne3: I hate to say it but your best option is to search for your broadcom card when the forums are back online
[22:56] <myne3> sory...tq...
[22:56] <deepocean> reisio, that is a smart answer by a answer guy about a smart phone
[22:57] <reisio> ikr? :p
[22:58] <Naugh> hello there :P
[23:09] <xibalba> my resolv.conf says
[23:09] <xibalba> # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
[23:09] <xibalba> #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[23:09] <xibalba> so where am i suppose to place it
[23:10] <FloodBot1> xibalba: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:10] <xibalba> changing the function of resolv.conf was retarded
[23:11] <sam113101> GUYS HELP
[23:11] <xibalba> sam113101, what
[23:12] <sam113101> the font in gtk2 apps is ugly
[23:12] <sam113101> how do I set it to the default?
[23:12] <xibalba> oh pff
[23:12] <xibalba> thought it was an important issue
[23:12] <sam113101> it is
[23:12] <usr13> xibalba: There are several ways to handle it.  One is the network-manager.  Another is to edit your router's config and supply valid nameserver for it to give to clients.
[23:14] <deepocean> Unbelievable, it looks like Office 2010 is going to succeed. Knocking off on wood
[23:15] <usr13> deepocean: What?
[23:16] <deepocean> usr13, looks like my office2010 installation on PlayOnLinux going to succeed.
[23:16] <usr13> deepocean: Oh, ok.
[23:16] <deepocean> usr13, for a long time Office was the only reason why I couldnt migrate to Linux
[23:16] <usr13> deepocean:  Not sure why you wouldn't just use libreoffice though....
[23:17] <usr13> deepocean: Why would MS Office be a reason not to migrate to Linux?
[23:17] <deepocean> usr13, I run a lot of Excel sheets with VBA in them. They break even in Mac Office
[23:17] <usr13> VBA?
[23:17] <zryan> hi all
[23:17] <deepocean> usr13, visual basic for excel
[23:17] <reisio> hi
[23:17] <achandra> usr13, visual basic ;)
[23:18] <usr13> Oh.  Ok.
[23:18] <usr13> I didn't know that.
[23:18] <zryan> how to fix the problme??  (he's dead jim chrome)
[23:18] <achandra> deepocean, the real question is how to deal with vendor lock in
[23:19] <RaveYoda> deepocean, you can install ms office through wine
[23:19] <achandra> deepocean, in the event and you've experienced this with Mac...
[23:19] <achandra> deepocean, that you right now are locked in right?
[23:19] <achandra> deepocean, and the linux solution even if you found a way to get those sheets in database and present it openly would change that
[23:20] <deepocean> achandra, its not as easy
[23:20] <achandra> deepocean, is there some tooling or a shift...sure.. but then you'd be free ;)
[23:20] <Omen_20> Hi, does anyone know why I can lock CIRC to the launcher, but other Chrome package apps like Keep won't work?
[23:20] <achandra> deepocean,  the other idea is install virtual box and have windows vm
[23:21] <zryan> he's dead jim chrome
[23:21] <RaveYoda> achandra,  he doesn't need a vm,. Just wine
[23:22] <deepocean> haha LoL: after setup "MS Windows" requires a legitimate restart of Windows.
[23:22] <reisio> zryan: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/1270364?hl=en
[23:22] <achandra> RaveYoda,  id think he'd get all the native functionality without having to deal with weird interaction issues with vb and excel over wine
[23:22] <achandra> RaveYoda, if he ran a vm -- fine get the ms stuff, and still have ubuntu as a main desktop
[23:22] <achandra> anyhow..my 2 cents
[23:23] <RaveYoda> achandra,  which would be pointless
[23:23] <RaveYoda> achandra,  why use ubu just to use windows?
[23:23] <achandra> RaveYoda,  well he'd get to primarily use ubuntu for everything else...and use windows just for that function that he's locked into
[23:24] <achandra> RaveYoda, ive done such a thing with wine...and it doesnt play well with interaction of excel and vb
[23:24] <RaveYoda> achandra,  Besides, wine has focused a lot on running ms office just because that is one of the most requested support for
[23:24] <achandra> RaveYoda, just speaking from experience
[23:24] <BAGHDAD> hello, I have a problem with my wireless card's tx-power
[23:25] <RaveYoda> achandra,  have you run it through playonlinux?
[23:25] <BAGHDAD> my Atheros wireless doesn't get txpower higher than 15dBm, but after I get close to the router and connect I can change it up to 27 dBm!
[23:25] <deepocean> Ah shoot
[23:26] <achandra> RaveYoda,  in all sorts of combinations including that one.. just think running windows natively that way, lets u spin up spin down, done.
[23:26] <deepocean> I cant load in the VBA addin in MS Excel
[23:26] <achandra> RaveYoda, but sure..he can try either ;)
[23:27] <RaveYoda> baggar11,  here try sudo iwconfig wlan0 txpower 25
[23:27] <RaveYoda> baggar11,  or whatever power rate it's supposed to be
[23:28] <RaveYoda> achandra, true true, he can try both. =P
[23:29] <qin> BAGHDAD: is it auto?
[23:29] <BAGHDAD> no
[23:29] <qin> BAGHDAD: How did you changed it?
[23:30] <RaveYoda> baggar11,  to do the command you may need to stop the device then do the cmd then start it up again
[23:30] <BAGHDAD>  sudo iwconfig wlan0 txpower 27
[23:30] <RaveYoda> BAGHDAD, ,  to do the command you may need to stop the device then do the cmd then start it up again
[23:31] <qin> BAGHDAD: all good, exect you need to: sudo iwconfig txpower off
[23:31] <BAGHDAD> I can change it up to 27 when I'm already connected
[23:31] <BAGHDAD> but when not connected, only up to 15
[23:31] <qin> mhh, or i am wrong.
[23:32] <RaveYoda> BAGHDAD,  sudo ifconfig wlan0 down THEN sudo iwconfig wlan0 txpower 27 THEN sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[23:32] <BAGHDAD> I'll try that RaveYoda. Thanks :)
[23:33] <RaveYoda> BAGHDAD,  Aight, hope it works
[23:34] <BAGHDAD> It automatically went back to 15dBm when I disconnected then reconnected :(
[23:34] <BAGHDAD> wait, it just popped up to 27 back again!
[23:35] <RaveYoda> BAGHDAD,  Whos method did you try?
[23:35] <BAGHDAD> Is the dBm stored with each ESSID?
[23:35] <BAGHDAD> I mean I feel that when I'm not connected, I don't catch my router unless I'm sitting right beside it!
[23:36] <BAGHDAD> While I can catch the network from the same place when on Windoz
[23:37] <RaveYoda> BAGHDAD,  you could try a diffrent network manager? See if Wicd works better?
[23:37] <antivirtel> Hello all! Has anyone have any comment to this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/323509/lenovo-e525-lock-button-as-a-hotkey ?
[23:37] <RaveYoda> BAGHDAD,  Also, which method did you try that worked?
[23:38] <danielboston26> m having a issue installing updates
[23:38] <danielboston26> [19:34] <danielboston26> when i start the software updater i get this error
[23:38] <danielboston26> [19:35] <danielboston26> failed to download repository information check your internet connection
[23:38] <danielboston26> [19:35] <danielboston26> the problem is my internet connection is fine
[23:38] <danielboston26> [19:35] <danielboston26> what could be the issue?
[23:38] <danielboston26> hi
[23:38] <FloodBot1> danielboston26: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:39] <danielboston26> im having a issue installing updates
[23:39] <tigran_> how can I get current gpu clock speeds? I have an ati card using open source drivers
[23:39] <danielboston26>  when i start the software updater i get this error
[23:39] <danielboston26>  failed to download repository information check your internet connection
[23:40] <RaveYoda> danielboston26, try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[23:40] <danielboston26>  failed to download repository information check your internet connection
[23:40] <danielboston26> the problem is my internet connection is fine
[23:41] <RaveYoda> danielboston26, or try sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:42] <sam113101> how is the unity menu called?
[23:42] <danielboston26> still not working
[23:42] <danielboston26> this is strange
[23:42] <tigran_> danielboston26: did you get a differnet error this time?
[23:42] <tigran_> what was the output
[23:43] <danielboston26> got the same error pressed ok and the software update window opened with a bunch of updates
[23:43] <RaveYoda> danielboston26, did you do the command i gave you into cmd where you upgraded that way?
[23:43] <k1l> sam113101: dash
[23:43] <danielboston26> something is really screwed somewhere
[23:43] <danielboston26> RaveYoda:  yes it said there were no updates
[23:43] <danielboston26> something is definetly fucked
[23:43] <tigran_> danielboston26: do a sudo apt-get update
[23:43] <sam113101> k1l: what about the executable name? or is it part of something bigger
[23:44] <pzn> I have ubuntu 12.04 server 64, with raid1 (2HDs) + lvm + encrypted_root. when I try to boot with only 1 HD, I get the message "waiting for encrypted source device... ..." and it waits forever. any hints about how to solve this? thanks in advance
[23:44] <tigran_> then see if it still shows in the guo that there are updates
[23:44] <tigran_> gui*
[23:44] <danielboston26> tigran_: it does
[23:44] <sam113101> because the dash is buggy, I want to try to fix it
[23:44] <danielboston26> its updating now
[23:45] <k1l> sam113101: erm, its part of the desktop enviroment. dont know if its an own executable
[23:45] <tigran_> danielboston26: problem solved?
[23:47] <danielboston26> tigran_: not sure
[23:48] <antivirtel> Hello all! Has anyone have any comment to this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/323509/lenovo-e525-lock-button-as-a-hotkey ?
[23:48] <RaveYoda> danielboston26, well what happens when you go to the update center?
[23:48] <danielboston26> RaveYoda: it appers to be updating now but it is very strange
[23:49] <RaveYoda> danielboston26, In what way?
[23:49] <danielboston26> RaveYoda:  i got the same error saying check internet connection when i pressed ok the update window popped up
[23:49] <RaveYoda> danielboston26, huh... I don't know. Sorry
[23:50] <chewyboy000> Hello?
[23:50] <sam113101> is there a channel for ubuntu dev?
[23:50] <chewyboy000> I'm not sure
[23:50] <danielboston26> tried ubuntu-dev?
[23:51] <chewyboy000> &6Hi
[23:51] <sam113101> doesn't seem to be that
[23:51] <chewyboy000> Would anyone recommend kubuntu or ubuntu?
[23:51] <arash> Hello , I have CCproxy installed on my server which is a https proxy + authentication
[23:52] <arash> I'd like to know how can I configure ubuntu on my pc to work with that ?
[23:52] <sam113101> chewyboy000: we all recommand them
[23:52] <RaveYoda> Does anyone know how to fix a problem where ubuntu fails to configure installing packages and leaves them in a broken state?
[23:52] <chewyboy000> No like which one
[23:52] <sam113101> chewyboy000: ubuntu, then
[23:52] <arash> Last time I tried Network proxy u:p@ip didn't work
[23:53] <jrib> RaveYoda: give more details
[23:53] <sam113101> chewyboy000: we're putting effort into the unity interface, it's the "main" ubuntu, kde in kubuntu is almost let untouched
[23:54] <xiudo> does anyone know will the Ubuntu Edge work with USA verizon?
[23:54] <RaveYoda> jrib, ok, Itry to install Wicd and the package wicd-daemon fails to configure. I try to remove wicd and it just stalls saying it's removing wicd.
[23:54] <k1l> xiudo: #ubuntu-touch is the channel for the phones
[23:55] <jrib> RaveYoda: pastebin full input and output
[23:55] <alami> hello, i have ubuntu 13.04 and vbox 4.2.16, with windows 8, and it crash all the time, any one know a fix for this bug?
[23:55] <RaveYoda> jrib, what uoutput?
[23:55] <arash> Network > Network proxy doesnt work well
[23:56] <myne3> can  get obuntu llist channel?
[23:56] <jrib> RaveYoda: from the commands you ran
[23:56] <RaveYoda> whats the link to paste stuff
[23:56] <myne3> *list
[23:56] <RaveYoda> jrib, whats the link to paste stuff
[23:56] <jrib> !paste | RaveYoda
[23:58] <RaveYoda> jrib,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5905854/
[23:58] <myne3> sory i newbie on irc.....haven't long time not using irc..
[23:58] <jrib> RaveYoda: this doesn' show anything wrong
[23:58] <myne3> :P
[23:58] <RaveYoda> jrib,  yes; all it does though is sit there twiddling its thumbs
[23:59] <jrib> RaveYoda: so did you do anything "interesting" with apt, dpkg, or your sources before this started happening?
[23:59] <RaveYoda> jrib,  it wont remove the package and it wont install it because it wont configure it ether