[09:27] <Zugwrack> How do I get ubuntu to read changes I made to fstab? Other than reboot of course...
[09:27] <intmainvoid> Alright I need help
[09:27] <bolsh> Zugwrack: mount -a
[09:27] <_native_> hey i have some great links to kicka** podcasts anyone want some?
[09:27] <bolsh> Zugwrack: Unless it was changes
[09:27] <mcjerry> _native_ could not startx with new drivers in 2.6.12-9
[09:27] <rsa> soundray, ya, sounds like it.  Sounds weird, considering Debian doesn't have this issue
[09:27] <topyli> Zugwrack: remount everything
[09:27] <bolsh> fstab gets read by mount when it's called
[09:28] <Zugwrack> bolsh: thanks...I just edited and saved it with vi
[09:28] <Almindor> why is mozilla package broken?
[09:28] <intmainvoid> I was doing the apt-get --build source wine   in the wine installation and it stopped and said       checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:28] <_native_> mcjerry; all i can say is "do over!" ;]
[09:28] <aftertaf> intmainvoid: installed build-essential?
[09:28] <bungle> !dvd
[09:28] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:28] <soundray> rsa, does it not? That's interesting. Maybe you can steal the binary from a Debian package.
[09:28] <Zugwrack> topyli: Ok will refresh my memory using man mount to see how to refresh the fstab read...
[09:28] <bungle> !dvd factoid info
[09:28] <ubotu> bungle: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:28] <intmainvoid> aftertaf:  Yeah
[09:28] <mcjerry> _native_, if new kernel install does not fix prob this time, how boot to old kenel and startx without reinstall?
[09:28] <mossy> topli: right, i installed xdm, uninstalled kdm, killed kdm process, it went to shell, not graphical interface, i typed xdm, it just went blank then went back to shell. i had to reinstall kdm to get back on here
[09:28] <maddash> _native_: cool lilo executed fine; how do I get it to display a boot menu?
[09:29] <MarcN> Anyone get handbrake to work on ubuntu?   Just adding the private repository for debian/sid doesn't cut it.
[09:29] <_native_> maddash; have you not restarted yet?
[09:29] <topyli> Zugwrack: this is safe only if you don't have many users logged in and all of them writing to your filesystems
[09:29] <Almindor> mozilla package anyone?
[09:29] <Almindor> is it me only?
[09:29] <MarcN> handbrake is a nice gui for dvd ripping.  Works fine in debian/sid
[09:29] <rsa> soundray, good idea.  I'll see what I can dig up.  I appreciate your help. Thank you
[09:29] <soundray> rsa, cheers.
[09:29] <maddash> _native_: gotcha
[09:30] <Zugwrack> topyli: NP no just a standalone macintosh with me attempting to learn Linux
[09:30] <aftertaf> Marcdunno... tried acidrip?
[09:30] <_native_> mcjerry; you want to get to a shell and comment new kernel entry in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file.
[09:30] <_native_> mcjerry; can you get to the shell ?
[09:30] <gnome_away> can i go into my /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the kernel only?
[09:31] <mcjerry> yes, grub still list old entry as boot option and can get to a shell, but cannot startx on old kernel
[09:31] <_native_> mcjerry; crap!
[09:32] <mcjerry> _native_ yup
[09:32] <mossy> topli: right, i installed xdm, uninstalled kdm, killed kdm process, it went to shell, not graphical interface, i typed xdm, it just went blank then went back to shell. i had to reinstall kdm to get back on here
[09:32] <_native_> mcjerry; get to the shell and reinstall the old kernel
[09:32] <intmainvoid> So can anyone help me here?
[09:33] <intmainvoid> I was doing the apt-get --build source wine   in the wine installation and it stopped and said       checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:33] <gnome_away> new kernel is in my grub menu.lst but wont boot to it is there a way to fix this?
[09:33] <mcjerry> _native_ will try that and also try keeping stock nvidia drivers without installing new drivers.
[09:33] <_native_> mcjerry; do apt-cache search kernel    and install the one that you had.
[09:33] <mcjerry> ok
[09:33] <soundray> gnome_away, is the new kernel in the first section starting with 'title'?
[09:33] <nalioth> intmainvoid: isntall build-essential
[09:34] <gnome_away> yes soundray
[09:34] <soundray> gnome_away, and do you have a line 'default 0' near the top?
[09:34] <gnome_away> soundray, right under "end default options"
[09:34] <_native_> mcjerry; or apt-cache search kernel|grep 2.6.
[09:34] <intmainvoid> nalioth:  not working. I already have the newest build-essential
[09:35] <nalioth> intmainvoid: then idk what it could be
[09:35] <gnome_away> soundray,  yes default 0
[09:36] <mcjerry> _native_ 'do over'd' tis morning, updating to new kernel now, will be awhile
[09:37] <soundray> gnome_away, is the hiddenmenu line commented?
[09:37] <_native_> mcjerry; cool
[09:37] <gnome_away> its commented out
[09:37] <gnome_away> just checked again yes soundray  its commented out
[09:37] <soundray> gnome_away, when you boot and see the grub menu, is the first entry highlighted?
[09:38] <gnome_away> yes but its not ubuntu its sarge i was gonna also see how to change boot order while i was in here
[09:38] <ss> can anybody help with samba
[09:38] <sklav> hey guys
[09:38] <intmainvoid> Can anyone else help me?
[09:38] <Vertyg0> hi
[09:38] <mossy> bbuab
[09:39] <Vertyg0> how to work with .patch files ?
[09:39] <sklav> is there a reason why runlevel 3 has graphical interface?
[09:39] <sklav> is this intentional?
[09:39] <nickrud> sklav, 2,3,4 & 5 are all identical in ubuntu
[09:39] <sklav> not exactl6y
[09:39] <gnome_away> hoild on let me see how many kernel entries i have
[09:40] <sklav> 2 3 4 have 6 tty while 5 only has 1 tty
[09:40] <soundray> gnome_away, if you leave it to update-grub to manage your boot menu, it should automatically boot the most recent kernel.
[09:40] <ss> does anybody know why samba doesn't start automatically in breezy?
[09:40] <sklav> my question is why does runlevel 3 have a graphical interface
[09:40] <soundray> gnome_away, sarge or breezy or whatever.
[09:40] <gnome_away> how do i use update grub?
[09:40] <_native_> http://www.binrev.com/radio/ great!
[09:40] <sklav> its common knowlodge that runlevel 3 usually has no X
[09:40] <soundray> gnome_away, enter 'update-grub'
[09:40] <intmainvoid> I was doing the apt-get --build source wine   in the wine installation and it stopped and said       checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:41] <gnome_away> ok brb
[09:41] <_native_> ss; yes you must enable it in the system->admin-> services
[09:41] <soundray> gnome_away, but it runs automatically when you install one of the linux-image-2.* kernels.
[09:41] <sklav> intmainvoid, make sure you install required gcc packages
[09:41] <soundray> gnome_away, sorry, sudo update-grub
[09:41] <intmainvoid> sklav:  I have all of the gcc. I'm a C++ programmer.
[09:41] <gnome_away> i ran it just now and it found the new one im gonna try to reboot
[09:41] <slide> Is there any kind of xsudo program?
[09:41] <Chousuke> Err.
[09:42] <nickrud> sklav, that's a redhatism, I believe
[09:42] <slide> That asks for the password in a dialogue box?
[09:42] <Chousuke> My log of this channel is 300MB in size.
[09:42] <soundray> slide, gksudo
[09:42] <slide> thanks
[09:42] <mjk64> soundray: Can you tell me the difference between "linux-386" and "linux-image-386" the installer offers me?
[09:42] <Chousuke> stop speaking, people!
[09:42] <Chousuke> :(
[09:42] <gnome_away> before i reboot how do i change defaul os to ubuntu?
[09:42] <sklav> nickrud, bsd suse all have it also even debian has it
[09:42] <nalioth> Chousuke: use bzip2 on it, that'll take it down a few waist sizes
[09:42] <nickrud> sklav, no, debian does not
[09:42] <_native_> gnome_away; easy
[09:42] <sklav> init 3 on my debian system has no X running
[09:43] <soundray> gnome_away, man grub-reboot
[09:43] <sklav> and i never modified it
[09:43] <Chousuke> nalioth: yeah, I know
[09:43] <gnome_away> ok ty
[09:43] <Chousuke> rm -rf is even more effective :P
[09:43] <nalioth> Chousuke: i archive mine once a week
[09:43] <Chousuke> I don't need to keep #ubuntu logs :/
[09:44] <_native_> later guys its turkey time!!! :-)
[09:44] <soundray> Chousuke, ll lv t th vwls t sv spc
[09:44] <Chousuke> auto-log is just being evil :)
[09:44] <Chousuke> anyway.
[09:44] <fdsdf> errr
[09:44] <Chousuke> how can I stop a log in irssi ;P
[09:44] <nalioth> Chousuke: disable logging
[09:44] <sklav> check the preferences
[09:44] <fdsdf> still wont work
[09:44] <Chousuke>  /log close #ubuntu.log doesn't work :/
[09:44] <fdsdf> xdm wont load
[09:44] <nalioth> Chousuke: you can disable loggins in the config file
[09:45] <Chousuke> I want to log some channels.
[09:45] <gnome_away> grub-reboot man page was not helpfull at all it says the "entry number" is the order well no entry numbers in grubs menu list
[09:45] <ss> _native_: Thank you very much
[09:45] <sklav> gnome_away, default 0
[09:45] <sklav> is the first entry
[09:45] <sklav> default 1 is 2nd entry and so on
[09:46] <nalioth> Chousuke: you can disable logging for certain channels, irssi is very configurable
[09:46] <dude> wenas?
[09:46] <Vertyg0> choudesh: just type /log off in this windows
[09:46] <Chousuke> nalioth: I know.
[09:46] <soundray> gnome_away, 'grep ^title /boot/grub/menu.lst | nl'
[09:46] <gnome_away> sklav,  default 0 is the only one in there and it boots libranet by default even though ubuntu kernels are at top of list
[09:46] <Chousuke> but it doesn't seem like I can stop it from autologging just #ubuntu
[09:46] <soundray> gnome_away, subtract 1
[09:47] <sklav> are they commented?
[09:47] <dude> tengo una pregunta
[09:47] <gnome_away> soundray,  so take 0 out and add a -1 to it?
[09:47] <Weng> Can I get a difinitive answer on exactly how large the package repositories are?
[09:47] <nalioth> !es
[09:47] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:47] <aftertaf> Weng: dont think one person actually knows that.
[09:47] <Chousuke> meh.
[09:47] <fdsdf> do i just give up
[09:47] <soundray> gnome_away, no, the command just tells you which is which, except that it is off by one.
[09:47] <Weng> Well, I'll know soon enough...
[09:47] <fdsdf> and use kdm?
[09:47] <Weng> Maybe.
[09:47] <aftertaf> Weng: hehe ;)
[09:47] <aftertaf> let us know
[09:47] <Weng> Yeah.
[09:48] <Chousuke> I just rm -rf'ed ~/irclogs/freenode* :P
[09:48] <Weng> I'll tell you this much
[09:48] <sklav> default -1?
[09:48] <Weng> It's SCARY large.
[09:48] <sklav> im not sure about that option
[09:48] <soundray> gnome_away, 'grep ^title /boot/grub/menu.lst | nl -v0'
[09:48] <Weng> 5 gigs thus far for just w, x, y, z alphabetically under universe.
[09:48] <gnome_away> ok and the one i want to boot to is number 1 and if i take 1 away it still ends me up at 0 where it is set at now
[09:49] <Vertyg0> Chousuke: next time rm -rf /root :D
[09:49] <LjL> Weng: wait till you get to "g" and "k"
[09:49] <ajmitch_> Weng: you're probably getting all architectures
[09:49] <Weng> Yeah, I am
[09:49] <sklav> gnome_away, 0 =1 1 =2 2 =3
[09:49] <gnome_away> sklav,  yes that i know
[09:49] <sklav> so start counting 0 1 2 3 4 5
[09:49] <Weng> because Filezilla is too stupid to have an option to ignore amd64 and powerpc
[09:49] <sklav> ok
[09:49] <soundray> gnome_away, what are you running right now?
[09:49] <sklav> so you want which 1?
[09:49] <sklav> first in the list
[09:50] <gnome_away> what i am saying is the default menu says 0 ubuntu should be 0 but its libranet
[09:50] <Chousuke> Vertyg0: only if you sudo rm -rf /
[09:50] <Weng> Once it's on my local system, I can axe the other architectures easy
[09:50] <gnome_away> ubuntu i want as primary default boot
[09:50] <Pegasos989> How did I change the password of my user again? :)
[09:50] <sklav> is it loading the proper kernel?
[09:50] <Weng> but remotely, I only have what my brokeassed tools give me.
[09:50] <Pegasos989> !password
[09:50] <ubotu> Pegasos989: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:50] <aftertaf> Weng: didnt apt-proxy give you any luck?
[09:50] <gnome_away> sklav,  no it wasnt as of this morning
[09:50] <sklav> gnome_away, paste you grub.conf somewher so i can see it
[09:51] <fdsdf> passwd? :P
[09:51] <gnome_away> ok
[09:51] <Weng> apt-proxy would error out, because my only debian and ubuntu boxen are sitting on an internet-isolated network
[09:51] <soundray> gnome_away, if you've got multiple Linux installations, maybe you should have each one install its own bootloader in the root or boot partition.
[09:51] <Weng> Gotta do this the ghetto way.
[09:51] <soundray> gnome_away, then you can have one master bootloader that just chainloads the distribution you want.
[09:51] <sifi> is there some way to check if smp is supported by the arch? arch only output the architecture but not if smp is supprted
[09:51] <aftertaf> Weng: argh :)
[09:51] <Pegasos989> thanks, fdsdf . xD
[09:52] <fdsdf> np
[09:52] <earthen> has anyone gotta samba SWAT working in ubuntu 64
[09:52] <Weng> All this in the name of giving away a few thousand ubuntu-laden machines.
[09:52] <Red-Sox> * #Red-Sox_away :Erroneous Nickname
[09:52] <gnome_away> heres the grub list http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5010
[09:52] <Red-Sox> what is that^
[09:53] <cafuego> sifi: 'uname -a'
[09:53] <aftertaf> Weng: a good cause ;)
[09:53] <soundray> gnome_away, HTH. Gotta go.
[09:55] <sklav> gnome_away, try default 0 instead of default               0
[09:55] <sklav> put 1 space after default and then zero
[09:55] <sklav> and get rid of savedefault
[09:55] <gnome_away> ok ill try it
[09:55] <mjk64> Can no-one explain to me the difference between "linux-386" and "linux-image-386" in the Ubuntu 5.10 installer? It's so essential, someone on this channel /must/ know!
[09:55] <sklav> as it might be loading libranet
[09:55] <gnome_away> save default is on all of the bootable kernels tho
[09:56] <Weng> aftertaf: Well, we've been handing out machines at the rate of about 100/yr loaded with Mandrake for the past 10 years
[09:56] <aftertaf> mjk64: linux-386 is a metapackage, it brings in all that is *good* for a 386 kernel
[09:56] <sifi> cafuego, yes, but uname does not have a command to just show if smp is supprted or not AFAIK, man checked
[09:56] <mjk64> aftertaf: So linux-image-386 installs less (modules or whatever)?
[09:56] <sklav> i dont have it on my grub.lst
[09:56] <aftertaf> mjk64: and image is the kernel package itself ( i think)
[09:56] <Weng> But now that our donations have increased to twenty times their normal level, we have to figure something else out
[09:57] <aftertaf> mjk64: yeah but better ti get the metapackage... it is also automatically updated and depends on latest kernel....
[09:57] <anton_> who do I  retrieve and import the signing key for cipher funk?
[09:57] <Weng> As of right now, there are 800 Pentium 3 700MHz/128mb/20gb machines sitting on the production floor waiting for an OS.
[09:57] <gnome_away> sklav,  get rid of save default on all kernels or just the newest ubuntu kernel?
[09:57] <Weng> All from one doner.
[09:57] <aftertaf> Weng: wow, nice :)        no way to get a net connectuionon there and apt away
[09:57] <mjk64> aftertaf: So linux-image-2.6.12-9-386 is older than linux-(image-)386?
[09:58] <mjk64> aftertaf: linux(-image)-386 = bleeding edge, linux(-image)-2.6.12-9-386 = "stable"?
[09:58] <Weng> Nope. And I don't think our landlords would appreciate our raping the shared internet connection like that, anyway.
[09:58] <LjL> mjk64: yeah the current kernel is -10
[09:58] <mjk64> LjL: Ah, okay!
[09:58] <sklav> all the older 1's
[09:58] <aftertaf> mjk64: not older, but when a new 386 kernel is released, you wont get it auto with an upgrade but you will with linux-386
[09:58] <gnome_away> 2.6.12-10
[09:58] <aftertaf> dapper has 2.6.14 right now
[09:59] <gnome_away> ok brb gonna try to reboot
[09:59] <anton_> who do I  retrieve and import the signing key for cipher funk?
[09:59] <anton_> i need my win32 codecs
[09:59] <mjk64> aftertaf, LjL: Thanks for your explanations! I feared no-one would know here, which would be *very* ... err .. disturbing. %-)
[09:59] <Weng> And the greatest damn thing is that the whole operation is self-sustaining, since we break down everything slower than 300MHz as scrap
[09:59] <aftertaf> mjk64: hehe i fugured it out all by myself ;)
[09:59] <Weng> In steel alone, we almost profit
[10:00] <mjk64> aftertaf: Your nerves must be ruined now. :-)
[10:00] <aftertaf> Weng: good on you guys ;)
[10:00] <Weng> CPU-derived gold... Well, we sent off a drum of CPUs on Tuesday, and we should get about $300 back from it.
[10:00] <aftertaf> mjk64: hehe.. getting there ;) but a good learning curve
[10:00] <slide> Im launching a program with gksudo and i need to get the pid of the launched program, i dont see anything in the man page for gksudo, and in the bash script $! only gets the pid of gksudo, not the program it launches
[10:01] <aftertaf> slide and ps -A shows nothing?
[10:01] <Weng> Operators of other computer recycling programs would kill us if they saw the stuff we break apart and melt down.
[10:01] <slide> aftertaf, im trying to get it using a script
[10:01] <anton_> W: GPG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4CF19C3233BAC1B3
[10:01] <aftertaf> slide: argh.
[10:01] <mjk64> aftertaf: Actually, I hate losing the good Debian documentation and support for gaining the faster Ubuntu release cycles, but I'll nevertheless give it a try on my test machine. :-)
[10:01] <anton_> how do I fix that/
[10:01] <Weng> While they're scraping for Pentiums, we won't even use most P2's
[10:01] <nickrud> slide, can't you use pidof, since you know the program name in the script?
[10:01] <aftertaf> mjk64: ubuntu is sort of debian, so all learned is useful ;)
[10:02] <slide> aftertaf, im trying to launch a second X
[10:02] <mjk64> aftertaf: Thank god. 8-)
[10:02] <anton_> ...
[10:02] <cafuego> i didn't do anything, don't thank me
[10:02] <aftertaf> mjk64: and debian benefits from the faster dev cycle too ;)
[10:02] <aftertaf> lol cafuego nice
[10:02] <MrPockets> J #mirc4dummies
[10:04] <sklav> do kernels get updated thew apt-get by doing an upgrade?
[10:05] <linkd> a dist-upgrade.. they do
[10:05] <sklav> i see some people are running 2.6.12-10
[10:05] <sklav> and im at 2.6.12-9
[10:05] <mjk64> What is LTSP, anyway? ubotu-factoid for that is less useful.
[10:05] <benplaut> is it safe to delete the beagle logs?
[10:05] <sklav> linux terminal server project = LTSP
[10:05] <mjk64> sklav: Aaaah! Thanks!
[10:05] <yi> anyone using the cvs snapshots of xorg here?
[10:05] <agtnz> anton_:  the key is here ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/release.keys hold on a sec
[10:07] <sklav> ok using apt how can one see what updates are available without having to install them?
[10:07] <linkd> normally u just attempt to and it lists them without u having to accept them
[10:07] <FireRabbit> -s
[10:07] <linkd> or that
[10:07] <lips> hi all when i start synaptic it gives me error message stating that one paskeg is corupted and i should repair it. how this can be done?
[10:07] <gnomefreak> still no choice for 2.6.12-10 :( and libranet is still default
[10:08] <sklav> gnomefreak, how many hdd's do you have
[10:08] <gnomefreak> 2
[10:08] <sklav> hda and hdb?
[10:08] <cafuego> sklav: 2.6.12-9 -> 2.6.12-10 was an automatic upgrade.
[10:08] <gnomefreak> ubuntu on hda and libranet on hdb
[10:08] <cafuego> sklav: It had security fixes and you should have it too
[10:09] <sklav> i dont cafuego
[10:09] <sklav> and i jsut ran and apt-get update
[10:09] <nubs0r> I want to create a file to iterate thru directories inside this one directory and cat af ile called history..then grep for a certain word
[10:09] <anton_> how do I use this key?
[10:09] <gnomefreak> cafuego, its in my /boot/grub/menu.lst as 2.6.12-10 but doesnt give me that choice at boot
[10:09] <nubs0r> but not all the directories have a history file, so i need some testing of some sort
[10:09] <cafuego> sklav: Enable the breezy-security and breezy-updates repositories.
[10:09] <nubs0r> because this original line i wrote doesnt work
[10:09] <nubs0r> for x in .; do cd $x && cat history | grep -i "linux"; done
[10:09] <gfish> can someone help im having problems with xmm
[10:09] <sklav> i have
[10:09] <gfish> *xmms
[10:09] <cafuego> gnomefreak: Then the grub you think you're using isn't the one in the MBR.
[10:09] <sklav> i get all updates
[10:09] <Pygi> gfish: what problems?
[10:09] <nubs0r> so how do i fix that up to test if the directory has a file called history in its contents before catting it and grepping for a certain keyword?
[10:10] <agtnz> anton_: Hmm I'm trying to find the commands to import that key - maybe someone else knows. I'll keep looking :)
[10:10] <gnomefreak> cafuego, ok so how do i use the one in MBR without reinstalling everything?
[10:10] <gfish> Pygi, i can only play music with it when no other sonds are playing
[10:10] <anton_> thank you agtnz
[10:10] <cafuego> nubs0r: find . -name history -exec grep -i linux {}\;
[10:11] <cafuego> nubs0r: That finds all files called history and greps them for "linux"
[10:11] <nubs0r> cafuego, lol thats easier than writing a shell script
[10:11] <nubs0r> thanks
[10:11] <sklav> cafuego, what do you issue for a kernel update? is it in an exempt list?
[10:11] <nubs0r> find: missing argument to `-exec'
[10:11] <Parkway> Anyone here ever install TinyFugue?
[10:11] <Weng> The entire repository is 12gb.
[10:11] <levander> I've got a cdrecord command that's hung.  Can't even kill it with -9.  Anybody know how to kill it?
[10:12] <cafuego> sklav: You install a NEW ernel if it's a version upgrade, security ones are automatic.
[10:12] <gfish> Pygi, i think i know why but i dont know how to sort it
[10:12] <mjk64> nubs0r: leave a space before \;
[10:12] <sklav> then i dont have it
[10:12] <sklav> and all repos you mentionned are uncommented except for the mutliverse
[10:12] <benplaut> anyone know why beagle would be taking about 300mb of ram? my $home is only about 4gb
[10:13] <agtnz> anton_: I think the easiest way is to download the release.keys file then run 'gpg --import release.keys' from a terminal
[10:13] <cafuego> benplaut: mono is (*!@(!(#
[10:14] <gfish> Pygi, say if msn made a sound then it wouldnt let me play because gaim has a sound at the same time
[10:14] <nubs0r> mjk64, do you happen to know what flag to specify to get grep to print the few couple lines before and after the match
[10:14] <benplaut> cafuego: agreed, but nothing else works for beagle :(
[10:14] <cafuego> benplaut: That roughtly translates to "inefficient and a resource hog"
[10:14] <benplaut> yeah
[10:14] <cafuego> benplaut: Mine on occasion peaks at 1GB
[10:14] <mjk64> nubs0r: -A(fter), -B(efore), -C(after + before)
[10:14] <gnomefreak> well thanks i guess i will reinstall it
[10:14] <Parkway> Hmm..how do I compile/install a program when there's no make or install command?...
[10:14] <mjk64> nubs0r: grep -C3 prints 3 lines before and after the matching line.
[10:15] <cafuego> benplaut: I'm fairly sure the only way to have it use less ram is to completely disable it.
[10:15] <benplaut> hrm
[10:15] <anton_> hmm I did that and it still doesnt work for some reason
[10:15] <zenlunatic> how do you use tor in ubuntu?
[10:15] <Pygi> Parkway: first off all you need to use sudo
[10:15] <benplaut> btw, what do you guys like better - newton, or tomboy?
[10:16] <Parkway> Tried that heh
[10:16] <gfish> can i get some help with xmms
[10:16] <anton_> W: GPG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4CF19C3233BAC1B3
[10:16] <anton_> still get that error
[10:16] <Parkway> make: command not found
[10:16] <Pygi> gfish: sorry, can't help. don't know what's the problem :/
[10:16] <sklav> does linux-image need to be installed?
[10:16] <gfish> Pygi, it says its being used
[10:16] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gfish about sound
[10:17] <agtnz> >>> Can anyone help anton_ ? ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/release.keys is the url of the key file - how do we get that imported so no GPG error on update?
[10:17] <nalioth> gfish: ubotu may have a solution for you
[10:17] <Parkway> Also recommended to run ./configure but I get a funky error when I do that
[10:17] <zenlunatic> anyone use tor on windows?
[10:17] <sklav> how do i clear the apt db
[10:17] <nalioth> anton_: wget ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/release.keys  && sudo apt-key add release.keys
[10:17] <sklav> and rebuild it?
[10:17] <nickrud> agtnz, you use apt-key, I'm not sure about the synxax
[10:17] <nalioth> agtnz: _: wget ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/release.keys  && sudo apt-key add release.keys
[10:18] <agtnz> thanks nalioth, nickrud :D
[10:18] <nickrud> sklav, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[10:18] <nickrud> apt-get update
[10:18] <bungle> where is my wastebasket??
[10:19] <sklav> ok i will try it
[10:19] <i_m_meen> hello
[10:19] <i_m_meen> is anyone using vim embedded in kdevelop?
[10:19] <gfish> nailoth thank you
[10:21] <anton_> gpg: can't open `realease.keys': No such file or directory
[10:21] <agtnz> anton_: typo
[10:21] <anton_> heh
[10:21] <anton_> woops
[10:21] <sorush20> hi
[10:21] <gfish> nalioth, ubtou had the perfect solution thanks so much
[10:22] <zeus_> HI
[10:22] <anton_> thanks a lot agtnz
[10:22] <anton_> its working great
[10:22] <zeus_> I HAVE ONer problem with me linux
[10:22] <sorush20> I have messed up my computer again..
[10:22] <sklav> cafuego, the only way i see the newer kernel is if i do apt-get install linux
[10:23] <nalioth> gfish: any time, share the love (help someone)
[10:23] <phasegen> anyone know of a good (meaning easy) program for converting wma to mp3?
[10:23] <agtnz> anton_: great :)
[10:23] <ioboss> where i can find kernel source?
[10:23] <gfish> nalioth, im a noob i wouldnt know where to start
[10:24] <sklav> apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12
[10:24] <iguana> get the CD's
[10:24] <ioboss> thanx
[10:24] <gfish> nailoth, i jumped in at the deepend and got rid of windows all together
[10:24] <phasegen> kernel source is easy, open synaptic and search for kernel
[10:24] <sorush20> I install kubuntu from scratch, then using the not so stright forward partitioning tool I belive that I chose the option which allowed me to partition the freespace and leave the data on the current hda1 and install to the new hda1, but now all my data is missing anyway I can get the data back?
[10:25] <nalioth> gfish: help where you can, is all
[10:25] <benplaut> lets see how fast this solaris kernel really is >:)
[10:25] <sklav> oh well i will force it to install
[10:25] <pirx> how can i find out which package contains some certain command/file?
[10:26] <arnducky> howto get security updates from the official ubuntu repos automatically?  Would ya'll recommend editing crontab.weekly or is there some other Ubutuized way like security updates triggered by a listening Inetd bound server or e-mail notification or something?
[10:26] <arnducky> (e.g something like Symantec LiveUpdate(tm) or Wupdate)
[10:28] <JoKo> Hi
[10:28] <remission> i have a newbie question: how can i get umbuntu to mount my extra ntfs volume on boot... (instead of the auto mount)
[10:28] <nickrud> pirx, you can search for things like that on packages.ubuntu.com
[10:28] <pepperpot> How good are the xorg drivers for Nvidia? Should I install NVidia's proprietary drivers if I want to use GL?
[10:28] <sklav> what is default kernel name when you do uname -a?
[10:28] <ricky_ds> Hi folks, I modified the colors of the happy gnome login so that it fits better to the color scheme of ubuntu. I'd like to share it with people and get some feedback. Anyone want to try it?
[10:28] <sklav> i have the following 2.6.12-9-386
[10:29] <nickrud> sklav,  2.6.12-9-686 (haven't rebooted yet)
[10:29] <JoKo> One of my friends has just installed Ubuntu for amd64... The thing is that his system boots fine, X.org loads also fine, but no session manager appears... Just a blank screen.. Could anyone help?
[10:29] <lemics_> @rick_ds did zou test it with gdmthemetester ?
[10:29] <sklav> nickrud, the new kernel is not even in my menu.lst
[10:29] <Mitja> us.archive.ubuntu.com is no longer down
[10:29] <ricky_ds> lemics_, what is that gdmthemetester?
[10:30] <sklav> i had to force it by doing apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12-10-386
[10:30] <pirx> nickrud: thanks!
[10:30] <cafuego> 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 (am VERY special)
[10:30] <lemics_> it test the login theme for errors
[10:30] <nickrud> sklav, it showed up in mine, and as the default
[10:30] <ricky_ds> lemics_, note that I just changed the colors within the svg, nothing else, so I don't think there would be any issue. The feedback I'd like is more about the colors, if I caught the correct colors or if they can be improved?
[10:30] <sklav> i think something is wrong with my system
[10:31] <lemics_> on ubuntu just download xnest
[10:31] <nickrud> sklav, did you hand edit it at any time?
[10:31] <mjk64> Why does Ubuntu 5.10 not offer installation of GRUB in the installer? Any reason for that? I've been using grub for a long time with no problems (except for a few missing features compared to LILO).
[10:31] <cafuego> sklav: You can marginally improve performance by picking a kernel suited to your cpu as well (as opposed to the generic 386 kernel)
[10:31] <sklav> yeah when i first installed it
[10:31] <cafuego> mjk64: It does, unless you use LVM.
[10:31] <Shark27> hi! how can I configure my broadcom 4401? Now it doesn't work :(
[10:31] <sklav> cafuego i have a sempron 3200+
[10:31] <Red-Sox> my name is faded in the user list in x-chat!
[10:31] <nickrud> sklav, you may have changed it enough that the postinst won't touch it anymore
[10:32] <cafuego> sklav: So a -k7 kernel then :-)
[10:32] <sklav> yeah
[10:32] <mjk64> cafuego: D'oh! *That* was the limit I read about somewhere! Yeah, I'm using LVM. Damn ... hm ... hmmm ...
[10:32] <sklav> nickrud, i just added vga=0x317
[10:32] <mjk64> cafuego: :-)
[10:32] <sklav> for a smaller font
[10:32] <sorush20> why isnt' the Konversation colouring this chat?
[10:32] <nickrud> sklav, I didn't: that must have been enough :)
[10:32] <sorush20> like gaim
[10:33] <JoKo> One of my friends has just installed Ubuntu for amd64... The thing is that his system boots fine, X.org loads also fine, but no session manager appears... Just a blank screen.. Could anyone help?
[10:33] <cafuego> ouuucoeK is SOOO a spambot
[10:33] <sklav> that so sucks
[10:33] <Shark27> could anyone help me?
[10:33] <ganoosh> when i boot i get a grub command line, when i try to boot it says the kernel needs to be loaded first, how do i load the kernel?
[10:33] <fr33mind> When I open a session in VNC (breezy is client) to a windows 2000 vnc server, I can't double-click.  It was working in Debian...
[10:33] <mjk64> cafuego: Can I boot my newly set-up Ubuntu later from the install CD? Like "expert root=/dev/whatever" or so?
[10:34] <maxx_730> Hey
[10:34] <cafuego> mjk64: Yeah, should work just fine.
[10:34] <maxx_730> Anyone know what package in synaptic to install to get the original ubuntu usplash again?
[10:34] <cafuego> mjk64: Actually, with lvm, maybe not. Depends.
[10:34] <r4ik> have to check
[10:34] <mjk64> cafuego: Okay, then I'll skip boot loader installation for now, because I think Debian installed GRUB *plus* LVM!
[10:34] <mjk64> cafuego: I'll just give it a try =)
[10:34] <cafuego> mjk64: You can certainly boot the cd with 'rescue' and have it scan for partitions (and/or lvm/raid)
[10:35] <Red-Sox> oh
[10:35] <mjk64> cafuego: Ah, great!
[10:35] <c0p> hi im tryinig to compile drivers for my rtl8180 card, and i get the following errors: http://pastebin.com/437422 . latest kernel headers are installed...
[10:35] <mjk64> C-64 r0xx000000000000000000r!
[10:35] <mjk64> %-)
[10:36] <maxx_730> My rtl8180 card works out of the box?
[10:36] <Seveas> mjk64, rofl
[10:36] <jah_raztah> i just complied mplayer with gtk2
[10:36] <mjk64> :-)
[10:36] <sklav> how does 1 purge a package again
[10:36] <c0p> i need these drivers compiled
[10:36] <Seveas> mjk64, there's a beep-media-player plugin for sid tunes ;)
[10:36] <sklav> i forgot :(
[10:36] <c0p> i have it working with ndiswrapper
[10:36] <c0p> but..
[10:36] <Seveas> sklav, dpkg -P
[10:36] <jah_raztah> but the how to doesn't show how tog et the mozilla-mplayer to works
[10:36] <c0p> need them compiled for injection
[10:36] <sklav> thanks Seveas
[10:36] <ricky_ds> lemics_, you can have a look at it here: http://pastebin.com/437487 just save the code as background.svg and copy it to/usr/share/gdm/themes/happygnome(-list)
[10:37] <Red-Sox> why is my name faded in x-chat?!?
[10:37] <Seveas> jah_raztah, you don't need to compile mplayer...
[10:37] <jrsims> happy thanksgiving
[10:37] <mjk64> Seveas: beep-media-player? I'm using my own curses frontend to sidplay. :-) But I'll check out that beep-stuff anyway, thx!
[10:37] <Seveas> Red-Sox, because you're fading away from us :)
[10:37] <ricky_ds> Seveas, lol
[10:37] <Seveas> mjk64, it's only in my repo
[10:37] <Red-Sox> Seveas: im not kidding
[10:37] <Red-Sox> lol,
[10:37] <r4ik> mine to can anybody read this/
[10:37] <Seveas> I'll have to fix up the package before submutting it :)
[10:37] <mjk64> Seveas: Where's that?
[10:37] <Seveas> mjk64, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:37] <c0p> Seveas, do you know why id get the following erros when trying to compile rtl8180 drivers ~ http://pastebin.com/437422
[10:37] <sorush20> why isnt' the Konversation colouring this chat?
[10:38] <Seveas> in breezy-extras
[10:38] <jah_raztah> Seveas, I kno but the mplayer on ubuntu repos are gtk 1
[10:38] <maxx_730> Noone knows what package to install to get the original ubuntu usplash again?
[10:38] <ricky_ds> Red-Sox, so that you can spot your text more easily among all others?
[10:38] <incog> ubuntu, the proof that you cant polish a turd
[10:38] <Seveas> maxx_730, usplash
[10:38] <mjk64> Seveas: thx
[10:38] <Shark27> Anyone has problem with bcm4401?
[10:38] <nalioth> gfish: i'll let you in on a secret: you help people and end up learning a lot
[10:38] <Red-Sox> ricky_ds: in the user list
[10:38] <incog> just use windoes xp, problem solved
[10:38] <maxx_730> Seveas: Tried that already, still get the kubuntu usplash eventhough i removed it completely already
[10:38] <cafuego> Lots of people have lots of problems with broadcoms of many kinds.
[10:39] <gfish> nalioth, thanks for the advice
[10:39] <c0p> incog stop flaming
[10:39] <HansZwolle> dpkg --reconfigure usplash
[10:39] <maxx_730> thanks
[10:39] <lemics_> thats right cafuego
[10:39] <ricky_ds> Red-Sox, ah, sorry. don't know then
[10:39] <incog> who am i flaming?
[10:39] <maxx_730> Ill try that
[10:39] <Red-Sox> k
[10:39] <sklav> later all
[10:39] <ganoosh> when i boot i get a grub command line, when i try to boot it says the kernel needs to be loaded first, how do i load the kernel?
[10:39] <Seveas> maxx_730, sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[10:39] <nalioth> incog: you should try to be civil in here please
[10:40] <incog> try cp /dev/zero /dev/mem
[10:40] <incog> nalioth, shut up
[10:40] <incog> prick
[10:40] <c0p> ...
[10:40] <szronik> I get a "Cannot open resource for writing" error in Totem.
[10:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell incog about coc
[10:41] <Seveas> sigh
[10:41] <Zedugh> last night, someone wanted to know how to edit contents of initrd.img-..... files, u here now?
[10:42] <Red-Sox> my name is faded in the server list
[10:42] <PinTo> l o
[10:42] <PinTo> i need some help
[10:42] <selinium> Seveas:  what is i with the 'people' coming to flame ubuntu?
[10:43] <Seveas> selinium, jealousy
[10:43] <abortion> Linux is a form of mental sickness; a security blanket left over from the childhood of the Computer Age. The sooner "Tux" and his travelling freak show pack it up and move on, the better.
[10:43] <Astxist> Red-Sox, you're probably marked as away
[10:43] <Red-Sox> oh
[10:43] <nickrud> Red-Sox, you can set the color in preferences, I think your name is 31 on that color list
[10:43] <abortion>  Linux is an OS where files have no association to programs; all configuration and settings are stored "wherever" in text files that grow to be megabytes long; most shell commands are so abstractly named that you would never be able to use them without knowing how they work.. or first reading its "manual page".
[10:43] <abortion> Linux is an operating system of inconsistancy.
[10:43] <abortion> Theres over a thousand distributions of linux, and over a billion different modified versions of it. Programs come shipped as source code that you must compile and configure (by way of large scripts that attempt to figure out how your system is running.. since nothing is standard).
[10:43] <selinium> Seveas: do something about this tw@
[10:43] <PinTo> i downloaded some pakages ...when i extracted them there isnt any deb/rpm files just folders...how do i go about installing these?
[10:44] <nalioth> Red-Sox: please ask an informative question
[10:44] <Red-Sox> abortion: okay, this channel is for ubuntu support
[10:44] <PinTo> do i have to patch them in ?
[10:44] <selinium> Seveas, CHeers!
[10:44] <nalioth> PinTo: what pkgs are you after?
[10:45] <PinTo> kernel-package....all the stuff needed to compile a kernel
[10:45] <Red-Sox> well.... how do you unmark yourself from away
[10:45] <lemics_> gcc
[10:45] <Seveas> Red-Sox, /away
[10:45] <mjk64> cafuego: Damn, now I know why there was an ext3 FS on that small partition I deleted for Ubuntu - that was /boot from a previous Debian installation so that I could use GRUB with an LVM-root. ARGH! %-)
[10:45] <PinTo> i need to compile a kernel so i can set up my ADSL
[10:45] <mcjerry> is it necessary that i import the current kernel config or not? if i don't when i reboot does it redetect everything?
[10:46] <Zedugh> i have to say it: abortion, linux is not for people who want their computer as easy to use as their microwave or tv remote, and who don't want to give up control of there hardware and software to some big-brother entity.
[10:46] <Seveas> Zedugh, this is not an advocacy channel
[10:46] <Seveas> and he left already
[10:46] <Astxist> heh
[10:47] <Zedugh> ok
[10:47] <Astxist> Zedugh, no point responding to ppl like that
[10:47] <PinTo> i just need to know how do i go about installing these all the packages r from http://packages.ubuntu.com/ but i aint familiar with this process
[10:47] <mcjerry> when updating to ne kernel, is it absolutely necessary to import the current config?
[10:48] <nalioth> PinTo: open synaptic
[10:48] <PinTo> yeah
[10:48] <ganoosh> how do i load the kernel in grub?
[10:48] <nalioth> PinTo: select all
[10:48] <cafuego> It's not even absolutely necessary to build you own kernel. It's not recommended either if you ask _that_ question.
[10:48] <PinTo> yeah
[10:48] <nalioth> PinTo: do what comes natural
[10:48] <Weng> Hrm
[10:48] <Weng> Okay
[10:48] <Weng> ....
[10:49] <Weng> So I have 16 gigs of RAM
[10:49] <Weng> and a 15 gig /pool
[10:49] <Xsylotte> q: how to set-up PPPoE connection in ubuntu 5.0.4 ?
[10:49] <PinTo> thanx m8
[10:49] <mcjerry> cafuego, dvb card drivers in current kernel causing dmesg errors, have to update kernel, but that causes other issues,,,
[10:49] <mcjerry> want new kernel without complete reinstall
[10:50] <cafuego> mcjerry: ok, you can build one from a kernel.org source tree.
[10:50] <kaleissin> anyone experts at getting sound to work here tonight?
[10:50] <cafuego> mcjerry: 1) fetch and unpack tarball.
[10:50] <Weng> I only have one contiguous 16gb HDD, though.
[10:50] <Weng> And that's got the OS on it.
[10:50] <cafuego> mcjerry: 2) sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc-3.4 kernel-package libncurses5-dev
[10:50] <mcjerry> got those
[10:50] <mcjerry> wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.14.tar.bz2
[10:50] <cafuego> mcjerry: Cool, cd into the source tree, run 'export CC=gcc-3.4'
[10:51] <mcjerry> that is kernel i got
[10:51] <cafuego> mcjerry: The latest is 2.6.15 actually
[10:51] <Weng> SCSI is the devil's tool :P
[10:51] <mcjerry> k, where get it?
[10:51] <Cyro11> is there anyone over here who talks spanish?
[10:51] <cafuego> wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.15.tar.bz2
[10:51] <kaleissin> Scsi nice
[10:51] <cafuego> !es
[10:51] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:51] <Cyro11> ok
[10:51] <Cyro11> thank you
[10:52] <Spudchat> hi anyone have any ideas on how to back up my dvds?
[10:52] <kaleissin> Spudchat, duplicate e'm?
[10:52] <cafuego> No, maybe I lie, and maybe Ubuntu dapper has just "invented" a .15
[10:52] <mjk64> Spudchat: On other DVDs? ;-)
[10:52] <Spudchat> yeah
[10:52] <cafuego> mcjerry: Never mind, use .14
[10:52] <Spudchat> preferably yes on other dvds
[10:52] <Seveas> ubotu, obey!
[10:52] <ubotu> Yes master seveas
[10:52] <kaleissin> dd from old dvd to harddrive
[10:52] <nickrud> Spudchat, dvdrip
[10:52] <kaleissin> then dd to new drive?
[10:53] <mcjerry> is .15 stable
[10:53] <Seveas> no
[10:53] <cafuego> mcjerry: No, use .14
[10:53] <mcjerry> k
[10:53] <cafuego> mcjerry: Did you unpack it?
[10:53] <Seveas> on Breezy, use .12
[10:53] <mcjerry> yep
[10:53] <Seveas> use Ubuntu packages unless you have a very good reason
[10:53] <cafuego> Seveas: he needs updated dvb drivers
[10:53] <ivo> hello
[10:53] <Seveas> that's a good reason :)
[10:53] <cafuego> ivo: mogge
[10:53] <ivo> who can help me with a webcam problem?
[10:53] <Seveas> !tell ivo about ask
[10:54] <kaleissin> ivo: get a flashcard-reader
[10:54] <kaleissin> ivo: move card from camera to reader
[10:54] <kaleissin> ivo: plug in reader
[10:54] <cafuego> mcjerry: Alright, back to the initial plan :-) Cd into the kernel source dir, run 'export CC=gcc-3.4'
[10:54] <ch0c0bn> hi. is this channel using UTF-8 ? (should be, isn't it)
[10:54] <Seveas> kaleissin, *webcam*
[10:54] <kaleissin> ivo: problem solved
[10:54] <cafuego> mcjerry: That will make the build process use the correct compiler version.
[10:54] <Seveas> ch0c0bn, yes
[10:54] <ch0c0bn> thx
[10:54] <Xsylotte> q: how to set-up PPPoE connection in ubuntu 5.0.4 ?
[10:54] <mcjerry> caruego, prob after install with current cnfg is sdb1 my 2nd sata drive will not enable
[10:54] <binze> is it possible to install ubuntu remotely - over the existing Mandrake installation?
[10:54] <Seveas> Xsylotte, sudo pppoeconfig
[10:54] <mcjerry> it was all working fine b4 update
[10:55] <cafuego> mcjerry: Then run 'cp /boot/config-$(uname -r) .config'
[10:55] <Xsylotte> k Seveas
[10:55] <cafuego> mcjerry: Did you already build a new kernel before?
[10:55] <mcjerry> am going through kernel install right now
[10:55] <lemics_> or use rp-pppoe
[10:55] <Seveas> mako, you're cured again? :)
[10:55] <mcjerry> cafuego ;do over'd
[10:55] <cafuego> the 'pppoe' package *is* rp-pppoe.
[10:55] <Weng> binze: Yes, but your system has to support netboot and you have to be willing to sit there and scream for a few hours because the documentation was written like 6 versions ago
[10:55] <amcclure> Hi... I just installed ubuntu under vmware, and for some reason (even though i didn't set this as an "alllowed" resolution) it started up in 1920x1200, and when i try to set the screen resolution to anything else in GNOME the screen goes crazy garbage
[10:56] <amcclure> but my monitor doesn't even support 1920x1200
[10:56] <amcclure> Do you have any idea what might be happening here?
[10:56] <purplefeltangel> can someone help me fix flash sound/ video problems?
[10:56] <lemics_> zes siree
[10:56] <binze> weng: how do i check if my system supposrt netboot? i have no physical access to it
[10:56] <ivo> question: i have a webcam and ubuntu see's the webcam, but when i want to start getting images from the webcam, linux frezes completly! I got the driver from the company, so does someone know howcom?
[10:56] <Weng> binze: Oh, you don't have physical access. Then that's not going to happen, either, since you have to change settings on the DHCP server for it's network
[10:56] <ganoosh> how do i load a kernel in grub?
[10:57] <Chousuke> ivo: likely a bug in the driver.
[10:57] <purplefeltangel> flash will not play sounds and with some videos the animation stops....how can if ix this?
[10:57] <Spudchat> allright i installed dvdrip but what should my default database directory be?
[10:57] <Seveas> kernel /path/to/kernel param1 param2 param3 etc...
[10:57] <Seveas> ^-- gana
[10:57] <Seveas> ganoosh*
[10:57] <ganoosh> what would be the path to the kernel i know it's on /dev/hdb1 but that's about it
[10:57] <ivo> Chousuke: can i do something about it?
[10:58] <Seveas> first root (hd1,0)
[10:58] <Seveas> then kernel /boot/linux-version-something
[10:58] <Seveas> etc...
[10:58] <Seveas> abd dont forget initrd
[10:58] <ColD_7> purplefeltangel, there is a solution in the help that come with ubuntu
[10:58] <Chousuke> ivo: besides taking the source and fixing it, not much. :/
[10:59] <Chousuke> or maybe you can find what the driver conflicts with.
[10:59] <purplefeltangel> colD_7: ok thx
[10:59] <ganoosh> what do i do with initrd?
[10:59] <Seveas> load it ...
[10:59] <ganoosh> what exactly is it though?
[10:59] <ganoosh> lol sorry i'm new to linux
[10:59] <mcjerry> cafuego, this imports current config right? mcjerry: Then run 'cp /boot/config-$(uname -r) .config'
[10:59] <ciga> hi
[11:00] <gfish> what can i use to put music on my ipod
[11:00] <ciga> I cannot mount an other iso with mount. it says: 'mount: could not find any free loop device'. what should I do?
[11:00] <lemics_> man initrd
[11:01] <mcjerry> cafuego, here is prob. 2.6.12-9 running now, seeing all sata drives, but when i update to new kernel, i can see my 2nd drive, but cannot access it or enable it
[11:01] <amcclure> how do i find out what version fo x i am using
[11:01] <amcclure> i have ubuntu 5.10 and i don't seem to have an xserver-xfree86 pacage
[11:02] <mcjerry> use xorg
[11:02] <cafuego> amcclure: xserver-xorg (6.8.something)
[11:02] <cafuego> amcclure: xfree86 changed its licence so something non-free.
[11:03] <gimmulf> Hi, i really would like to have some help. Just installed ubuntu but X doesnt start, im in terminal now and not used to beeing here but i've used ubuntu before.  Im having an Radeon X800 Pro Pci Express card.  Error when trying to startx:  (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"  Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.0": No symbols found  Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extension/libGLcore.a:m_debug
[11:03] <amcclure> ok
[11:03] <Zedugh> amcclure, ubuntu uses Xorg, but to see your version, in a term type sudo X -version
[11:03] <mcjerry> cafuego: read above post and see if problem related to new kernel with config import
[11:03] <cafuego> gimmulf: Those are not errors. Paste the whole think to a pastebin website.
[11:03] <gimmulf> cafuego: i dont even know how to paste and stuff from terminal
[11:03] <cafuego> mcjerry: The -10 or the self-compiled one?
[11:04] <gimmulf> cafuego:  shall i dcc the error file?
[11:04] <gimmulf> maybe
[11:04] <cafuego> gimmulf: That's pointless, I can't do dcc.
[11:04] <gimmulf> ahha hmmm
[11:04] <mcjerry> cafuego: current is 2.6.12-9-386 from cd install
[11:05] <gimmulf> cafuego: do youwant to see the Xorg.log?
[11:05] <mcjerry> it works
[11:05] <damotor> hi
[11:05] <cafuego> mcjerry: I wonder if you should give the 2.6.15 kernel from dapper a try...
[11:05] <damotor> can you tell me what's the version of the driver for the ipw2200 wireless card that comes with breezy?
[11:05] <mcjerry> cafuego: will try, nothing to lose, what is link?
[11:05] <cafuego> mcjerry: Hold on ...
[11:06] <gfish> what do i use to put music on my ipod
[11:06] <nalioth> gfish: gtkpod
[11:06] <mcjerry> cafuego: I can update the kernel, the process itself I can do, but I have had same problem with sata drive whether running amd64 or 386
[11:07] <gimmulf> cafuego: What shoyuld i put on a pastebin site?
[11:07] <gimmulf> xorg.log`?
[11:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i use unrar to decompress a .rar file?
[11:07] <gfish> nalioth, thanks do u use this personally and is it good
[11:07] <mjk64> BROKEN_LADDER: unrar blah.rar
[11:07] <Cybercool> Chousuke: (i am ivo from 5 minutes ago)i tried it again and i get a view errors, do you want to help me
[11:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> oh nm
[11:07] <gfish> nalioth i dont wanna screw my ipod
[11:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> mjk64 i had to type unrar e
[11:07] <cafuego> mcjerry: You running ia32 Ubuntu on and amd64?
[11:07] <Chousuke> Cybercool: I don't think I can :/
[11:07] <nalioth> gfish: thousands of linux users use it
[11:08] <carlo> ciao a tutti
[11:08] <Chousuke> Cybercool: I have zero knowledge about webcams.
[11:08] <mjk64> BROKEN_LADDER: Damn, mixed it up with unzip, sorry
[11:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> cafuego lol
[11:08] <Qalimas> can anyone here aid me in a dual monitor task?
[11:08] <nalioth> gfish: i dont have an ipod, would you send me a nano to see how gtkpod works?  :)
[11:08] <gfish> nalioth, ill get it now thwn
[11:08] <Chousuke> Cybercool: I just game you whatever generic advice I had :)
[11:08] <Cybercool> Chousuke: do you have knowledge of: insmod: can't read 'videodev'
[11:09] <mcjerry> cafuego: can get amd64 running fine, but vdr, xine, and other issues, must run i32 to overcome and want to get it working prior to chroot
[11:09] <gimmulf> cafuego: What shoyuld i put on a pastebin site?
[11:09] <Chousuke> Cybercool: hm
[11:09] <cafuego> mcjerry: Yeah, I know. Just maiign sure I give you the right kernel :-)
[11:09] <Chousuke> Cybercool: do you have v4l loaded? or whatever it was.
[11:09] <Chousuke> video4linux
[11:10] <cafuego> mcjerry: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/linux-image-2.6.15-3-k7_2.6.15-3.3_i386.deb
[11:10] <Cybercool> Chousuko: how can i check>
[11:10] <ciga> I can see only 0 in my /dev/loop/? Is this the reason I can only mount 1 iso file?
[11:10] <dabaR> Hi. How do I find out what files are in my classpath for Java?
[11:10] <Cybercool> Chousuko: i have also 2 other errors, i will paste them here, if you have the time?
[11:10] <cafuego> gimmulf: Ideally the whole contents of the .xsession-errors file.
[11:11] <mcjerry> cafuego: loading now
[11:11] <nalioth> Cybercool: please dont paste anything in here, use a pastebin
[11:11] <gimmulf> cafuego:  how do i copy everything in a file in vim and how do i paste?
[11:11] <Cybercool> sorry, what is the pastebin?
[11:11] <gimmulf> from links
[11:12] <dabaR> !pastebin
[11:12] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:12] <gimmulf> cafuego:  the /etc/X11/Xsession file?
[11:13] <Cybercool> !pastebin insmod: can't read 'videodev': No such file or directory
[11:13] <Cybercool> insmod: can't read 'usbcore': No such file or directory
[11:13] <Cybercool> insmod: can't read 'usb-ehci': No such file or directory
[11:13] <Cybercool> insmod: error inserting './vm301.ko': -1 Invalid module format
[11:13] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Cybercool
[11:13] <Seveas> NEVER paste in here
[11:13] <dabaR> he didnt read:)
[11:13] <PinTo> could n e 1 tell me how i install these pakages? or a howto i downloaded a "tar" pakage then extracted it but there aint no deb/rpm files in there just folders
[11:14] <nalioth> Cybercool: i asked you not to paste in here
[11:14] <PinTo> how do i go about installing these?#
[11:14] <alessandro_> hi
[11:14] <nalioth> PinTo: what are "these" ?
[11:14] <mcjerry> cafuego: have it dloaded, not sure this way
[11:14] <gfish> nalioth, uve been alot of help today thanks, by any chance do u know how to author avis or xvids to dvd ?
[11:15] <PinTo> i downloded some development pakages cos they arent in n e of my repos..for compiling a kernel
[11:15] <guydebord> can anybody read this message? Ive been having problem ever since the anti spam measures.
[11:15] <amcclure> *scratches head* I installed ubuntu under vmware. Then I shut it down and started it up again, and now when i start up the ubuntu virtual machine a little underscore appears on the screen and everything freezes
[11:15] <PinTo> so i DLed them from ubuntu.org
[11:15] <nalioth> gfish: dvdauthor
[11:15] <amcclure> nothing seems to happen, it jsut stays iwth the underscore showing
[11:15] <amcclure> do you have any idea what might be happening
[11:15] <Seveas> PinTo, ubuntu.org is not related to the linux distribution
[11:16] <agtnz> guydebord: yep man fire away
[11:16] <nalioth> PinTo: ALL the pkgs you need for kernel developement are in the repos
[11:16] <amcclure> i fiddled wit the hardware settings a little while it was shut down
[11:16] <navarone> Seveas> Any experience using Ghost for Linux. I dl'ed iso and am considering using it to backup both os'es...
[11:16] <gfish> nalioth, are you serious
[11:16] <guydebord> Ok.  Other problem know I can`t see the other users.  Is that another security measure?
[11:16] <PinTo> nalioth i dont have kernel-pakage in there or linsecurses.dev and some other stuff
[11:17] <nalioth> PinTo: they certainly do
[11:17] <gp> How can I stop my computer from changing 'resolv.conf' on start-up?
[11:17] <PinTo> i dont
[11:17] <Seveas> PinTo, then correct your sources
[11:17] <PinTo> i only have 3 repos
[11:17] <Seveas> !tell PinTo about sources
[11:17] <faust> I'm having a slight problem with ubuntu 5.10 here. Fresh install (ran an expert install, so I wouldn't be deprived of my beloved root account). When I booted up after install, the networking didn't work. Entered root and ran dhclient manually. So, now that's up.
[11:17] <mjk64> Err ... how the fsck do I scroll back in rescue mode in 5.10? Framebuffer mode is activated.
[11:17] <purplefeltangel> how do i move an application into a different group?
[11:18] <PinTo> the only repos i have r what was installed by default i aint got no internet connection
[11:18] <nalioth> purplefeltangel: group of what?
[11:18] <faust> But whenever I try to enter any of the administrative features in Gnome, I get a password prompt, I enter the password, and nothing happens.
[11:18] <Seveas> gp, wiki.ubuntu.com/StaticDnsWithDhcp
[11:18] <faust> Tried both root password and current user password.
[11:18] <purplefeltangel> nalioth: on the applications menu
[11:18] <nalioth> PinTo: how are you talking to us now?
[11:18] <nalioth> purplefeltangel: right click on the menu
[11:18] <PinTo> windows
[11:18] <purplefeltangel> nalioth: thx
[11:18] <nalioth> PinTo: ah. well then
[11:18] <PinTo> so i DLed the pakages manualy
[11:18] <Seveas> PinTo, why do you need kernel development stuff?
[11:18] <nalioth> ubotu: tell PinTo about sources
[11:18] <PinTo> from official site so know the stuffs good
[11:18] <Seveas> PinTo, and please try to type understandable english...
[11:18] <gimmulf> how do i search for software using apt-get?
[11:19] <Seveas> gimmulf, apt-cache search
[11:19] <nalioth> gimmulf: man apt-get will help you lots
[11:19] <gfish> how do i author dvds
[11:19] <mcjerry> cafuego: have file downloaded, have not compiled in this way before, what next>
[11:19] <PinTo> seveas so i can connect by adsl
[11:19] <nalioth> gfish: you grab dvdauthor and visit the dvdauthor homepage and read
[11:19] <Seveas> PinTo, sudo pppoeconfig
[11:19] <Seveas> done
[11:19] <PinTo> base install no good
[11:19] <gfish> nalioth, thanks once again
[11:19] <gimmulf> Wierd apt-cache search links2 wont find anything
[11:19] <Seveas> !info links2
[11:20] <PinTo> i need to build specific modules
[11:20] <ubotu> links2: (Web browser running in both graphics and text mode), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.1pre16-2build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1939 kB, Installed size: 3124 kB
[11:20] <cafuego> !find links2
[11:20] <ubotu> links2: (Web browser running in both graphics and text mode), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.1pre16-2build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1939 kB, Installed size: 3124 kB
[11:20] <PinTo> its pppoa
[11:20] <Seveas> !tell gimmulf about universe
[11:20] <PinTo> ATM
[11:20] <Seveas> pppoa :/
[11:20] <cafuego> PinTo: That's already in the kernel. What are you talking about?
[11:20] <tony_> hi, could someone tell me what file is edited when doing a 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86'?
[11:20] <gimmulf> where is sources.list?
[11:20] <Seveas> tony_, are you using warty?
[11:20] <Seveas> !tell gimmulf about sources
[11:20] <cafuego> tony_: /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[11:20] <tony_> Seveas: yes
[11:21] <PinTo> allz i need do is compile a kernel
[11:21] <frank23> gimmulf: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:21] <Seveas> tony_, /etc/XF86config-4
[11:21] <PinTo> base install no good
[11:21] <cafuego> tony_: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[11:21] <Seveas> cafuego, indeed
[11:21] <guydebord> Any one know where to find the windows manager in GNOME desktop?
[11:21] <cion> hey all how do i use a webcam on ubuntu?
[11:21] <gimmulf> Seveas: that only gave me www links :)
[11:21] <cafuego> Seveas: It's in X11, no?
[11:21] <gimmulf> thanks frank23
[11:21] <Seveas> guydebord, it's called metacity
[11:21] <PinTo> i'm avin a bad day
[11:21] <Sanne> Hello, I have an Athlon Thunderbird 1000 Mhz, is it right that I should be running a k7 kernel?
[11:21] <Seveas> cafuego, I'ma filthy liar too :)
[11:21] <cafuego> Sanne: yes
[11:21] <Sanne> cafuego,  thanks
[11:21] <cafuego> Seveas: it's genetic with _our_ people ;-)
[11:21] <Seveas> Sanne, sudo apt-get install linux-k7
[11:21] <frank23> Sanne: yeah k7 for amd
[11:22] <Seveas> cafuego, *g*
[11:22] <Sanne> thanks all, will install :)
[11:22] <faust> Whenever I try to enter any of the administrative features in Gnome, I get a password prompt, I enter the password, and nothing happens. Tried both the regular user password and the root password.
[11:22] <cion> hey all how do i use a webcam on ubuntu?
[11:22] <faust> What could be wrong?
[11:22] <guydebord> Can I access this through desktop or do I have to operate in terminal?
[11:22] <Seveas> faust, try in a terminal: gksudo synaptic
[11:22] <Seveas> what happens?
[11:22] <faust> Wait a sec. the laptop froze during logout.
[11:23] <Seveas> guydebord, what do you want with the windowmanager?
[11:23] <Seveas> it's teher
[11:23] <Seveas> it's responsible for all windows
[11:23] <Seveas> s/teher/there/
[11:23] <PinTo> is there a distro out there that has all the repositories on installation disc?
[11:23] <tony_> this is strange then. i thought it was XF86Config-4 so i renamed it and ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 again and it didn't complain about missing file and picked up my old settings from somewhere.
[11:23] <defendguin> where can i look ath the changelog for all the recent updates?
[11:23] <Seveas> tony_, auto-detected settings, not old settings
[11:24] <felipe_> weee, I finnaly received de breezy cds after two months and two days :D
[11:24] <PinTo> just incase yer Scwd
[11:24] <cafuego> !dstats
[11:24] <guydebord> Just change my window preferences so that they minimize into the panel instead of disapearing.
[11:24] <cafuego> aiyee!
[11:24] <carsten> how can i unzip bz2 files?
[11:24] <tony_> Seveas: right, where are they stored then?
[11:24] <guydebord> I can retreive with Alt tab but its a hassle
[11:24] <cafuego> carsten: via bunzip2
[11:24] <Seveas> carsten, bunzip
[11:24] <carsten> cafuego: thanks
[11:24] <cafuego> of bzcat
[11:24] <cafuego> s/f/r/
[11:24] <Seveas> tony_, *autodetected*
[11:24] <carsten> Seveas: thanks
[11:24] <Seveas> so not stored
[11:24] <guydebord> Windows preferences is useless
[11:24] <tony_> Seveas: :)
[11:25] <Seveas> guydebord, add the window list to your panel
[11:25] <tony_> Seveas: i see, i thought you meant from the intial install
[11:25] <PinTo> would i gbe able to write these files to disc and them through synaptic CDROM?
[11:25] <Seveas> that has *nothing* to do with the windowmanager
[11:25] <PinTo> load*
[11:25] <Seveas> PinTo, no
[11:25] <gimmulf> cafuego:  was it the /etc/X11/Xsession i should paste?
[11:25] <Zedugh> guydebord, do you still have the panel at the bottom of the screen?
[11:25] <cafuego> gimmulf: No, it was not.
[11:26] <cafuego> gimmulf: it was ~/.xsession-errros
[11:26] <PinTo> Seveas u must know what i mean tho about the folders?
[11:26] <gimmulf> thanks
[11:26] <PinTo> no deb/rpm just folders with amkefiles in there
[11:26] <Seveas> PinTo, I have no idea
[11:26] <tony_> Seveas: if i've renamed /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, should dpkg-reconfigure recreate it?
[11:26] <guydebord> great thanks. Little difference to get used to
[11:26] <Seveas> PinTo, then download .deb files
[11:26] <Seveas> tony_, yes
[11:26] <carsten> what is the correct parameter to de-tar tar files tar -xvf blah.tar ?
[11:26] <ColD_7> help needed, how can i extract an rar file in ubuntu?
[11:26] <Seveas> carsten, yes
[11:26] <PinTo> like i tried but its like not werkin
[11:27] <faust> Seveas: running gksudo synaptic produces a password prompt, I enter the password, and nothing happens.
[11:27] <carsten> Seveas: thanks again
[11:27] <Seveas> and for .tar.bz2 files: tar jxvf blah.tar.bz2
[11:27] <faust> No error messages, nothing in terminal, nothing.
[11:27] <Seveas> faust, no output in the terminal?
[11:27] <faust> Nothing at all.
[11:27] <tony_> Seveas: thanks
[11:27] <faust> It also seems that dhclient isn't run on boot. I have to run it manually after starting.
[11:27] <gimmulf> cafuego:  i doesnt seem to have that dir
[11:27] <Seveas> faust, did it work before?
[11:27] <faust> Seveas: Clean install.
[11:28] <Seveas> faust, did you do a server or expert install?
[11:28] <faust> expert install, following pretty much the steps I would in a debian install.
[11:28] <Seveas> yeah, then sudo isn't setup
[11:28] <faust> ah
[11:28] <PinTo> this is where i'am gettin my pakages from http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/ some1 must be familiar with these
[11:28] <Seveas> you know how to setup sudo?
[11:29] <faust> No. Got an url for a good howto?
[11:29] <Seveas> hang on
[11:29] <Seveas> what does 'id' give you?
[11:29] <frank23> PinTo: why don't you just use synaptic instead?
[11:29] <PinTo> no internet
[11:30] <Seveas> PinTo, then download *THE DEB PACKAGES* from there
[11:30] <Seveas> and not the tarballs
[11:30] <PinTo> i'll check it i think they all tar balls
[11:30] <Seveas> *sigh*
[11:30] <Seveas> would I tell you to download debs if there aren't any?
[11:31] <r3tex_> what is better, mozplugger or mplayer-plugin?
[11:31] <Seveas> faust, what does 'id' give you?
[11:31] <Seveas> r3tex_, mplayer
[11:31] <faust> uid=1000(willy) gid=1000(willy) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),1000
[11:31] <PinTo> yeah they're all tarballs
[11:31] <faust> Took some time to type, that's all. Using the winblows rig to ask for help.
[11:31] <nalioth> PinTo: then you're in the wrong place. click on your arch type at the bottom
[11:32] <nalioth> PinTo: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:32] <r3tex_> Seveas:  ok =)
[11:32] <Seveas> faust, right, sudo addgroup --system admin && sudo adduser willy admin
[11:32] <frank23> PinTo: look at the Download section of any packages
[11:32] <cion> hey i have a question is it possible to remove 386 kernel after having installed 686 kernel?
[11:32] <gp> How do I know if I use UpDown networking?
[11:32] <Zedugh> PinTo, you are on the internet now. you are downloading src tarballs from the internet. I understand you don't have a ubuntu system working yet, that's what you're trying to do. Download the debs (not the source) for what you need from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/
[11:32] <frank23> cion: yeah you can remove it with synaptic
[11:32] <Seveas> faust, and use the standard sudoers file, see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5013
[11:32] <PinTo> yeah gz
[11:33] <Seveas> PinTo, how blink are you?
[11:33] <faust> Hmm.. running that command produced no output at all.
[11:33] <PinTo> yeah but i'm new
[11:33] <faust> and now nothing happens when I run administrative tools. Not even a password prompt.
[11:34] <Seveas> PinTo, ffs, it's right there
[11:34] <cion> do i compromise anything by doing such operation?
[11:34] <guydebord> does anybody know if I can log into freenode from another laptop with MS Window
[11:34] <Seveas> see your private chat
[11:34] <Seveas> for an example
[11:35] <Seveas> guydebord, sure
[11:35] <rixth> I'm reinstalling Ubuntu. Where is the configuration for the layout of Gnome's panel?
[11:35] <Zedugh> PintTo, you believe you cannot install without a custom kernel because you have some unusual hardware? Maybe, maybe not, what is so unusual about your hardware
[11:35] <rixth> Is there a single file?
[11:35] <TokenBad> whats a good newsgroup program for ubuntu?
[11:36] <Seveas> TokenBad, pan
[11:36] <TokenBad> thanks Seveas
[11:36] <Seveas> rixth, it's in gconf
[11:36] <faust> Seveas: After running the commands you gave me, and editing the sudoers file so it matches the one in the example, I still get nothing happening.
[11:36] <PinTo> TTFN
[11:36] <frank23> TokenBad: pan  works for me
[11:36] <Seveas> faust, does 'id' say you're in the 'admin' group?
[11:37] <faust> 4(adm)
[11:37] <rixth> Yes but how can I export it?
[11:37] <outrages> http://www.anakata.hack.se/www.linux.se_0610_0800_deface/ : KILL THEM ALL!!
[11:37] <faust> Seveas: no, it doesn't.
[11:37] <rixth> 'anakata' is the owner of ThePirateBay.org, he is also from Sweden. Same guy?
[11:37] <Seveas> faust, then something went wrong with the earlier commands
[11:38] <Seveas> does the admin group exist?
[11:38] <Seveas> if so: sudo adduser willy admin
[11:39] <adrianoc> please, where i found for "Automatix" ?
[11:39] <sorush20> guys where is that auto setup script?
[11:39] <sorush20> for the mplayer etc?
[11:39] <faust> Seveas: the group admin does not exist in the /etc/group file
[11:40] <Seveas> faust, then let's go the quick route
[11:40] <DuDE27> hi anyone know if there is a possibility to make the notification area in the gnome panel transparent?
[11:40] <Seveas> replace %admin with willy in in /etc/sudoers
[11:40] <faust> Done.
[11:40] <gp> Seveas:  I ran through the Wiki - now I am getting 'Connection Refused' messages from ubuntu sites?
[11:41] <faust> Now it works. Thanks :)
[11:41] <fevoldj2> Hi
[11:41] <Seveas> gp, hm
[11:41] <faust> The group adm, has that replaced admin?
[11:41] <Seveas> faust, no
[11:41] <faust> Because that's there, and I'm a member of it.
[11:41] <Seveas> they serve different purposes
[11:41] <fevoldj2> I installed the php5 module for apache2 and apache 2, but apparently there are problems with php
[11:41] <faust> ok
[11:41] <fevoldj2> =(
[11:42] <Seveas> fevoldj2, such as?
[11:42] <gp> Seveas: Was that a thinking 'hm'; or a command, or something?
[11:42] <Seveas> a thinking
[11:42] <GlobeCoder> i installed ubuntu, is it possible to change the resolution it uses after ive installed it?
[11:42] <GlobeCoder> i installed ubuntu, is it possible to change the resolution it uses after ive installed it?
[11:42] <GlobeCoder> oops
[11:42] <GlobeCoder> sorry
[11:42] <Seveas> the sites work for me, which site in specific is failing?
[11:42] <Seveas> !tell GlobeCoder about fixres
[11:42] <fevoldj2> Well just not being able to open a php page. it prompts to download the php file rather than loading it.
[11:42] <GlobeCoder> thanks
[11:43] <Zedugh> !tell Zedugh about fixres
[11:44] <gp> Seveas: The au.archives.ubuntu.com site works when I 'apt-get update', but not when I 'apt-get install ..'  (111 Connection Refused)
[11:44] <Mirith> Hey, i have a question about an install, i'm trying to install daimonin, and i'm following their instructoins on how to install, the first command after untaring it, being sh ./configure  except its giving me a cannot guess build type error  any suggestions?
[11:44] <Seveas> gp, try another one then :)
[11:44] <gp> Seveas: Also when I use firefox to try and access the 'packages.ubuntu.com'
[11:44] <GlobeCoder> ok i dont understand anything about that.
[11:44] <Seveas> gp p.u.c works here..
[11:45] <soundray> Mirith, apt-get install build-essential ?
[11:45] <Mirith> yah got it
[11:45] <GlobeCoder> I dont understand anything about that help thing on the resolution fix thing.
[11:45] <gp> Seveas:  Nevermind, thanks.  I still had the 's' in after the 'http(s)'
[11:45] <Mirith> well hmm i contributed the wrong problem to the next stage
[11:46] <Seveas> :)
[11:46] <foomanchew> help with SB Live in Breezy ?
[11:46] <Mirith> hmm... thanks for your help guys
[11:46] <rixth> Reinstalling now. Hope to be back within an hour. (though something will inevitably go wrong)
[11:46] <foomanchew> help with SB Live in Breezy ????
[11:46] <foomanchew> not getting any sound
[11:47] <gimmulf> cafuego: finally i got the file up: http://pastebin.com/437554
[11:47] <guydebord> do I join freenode through windows messager?
[11:47] <Seveas> guydebord, not
[11:47] <Seveas> use mirc on windows
[11:47] <gnomefreak> guydebord,  i would sure hope not
[11:47] <GlobeCoder> can someone help me step to step in lowering the resolution on ubuntu?
[11:48] <gnomefreak> Seveas,  mirc isnt free you can get x-chat free on windows
[11:48] <rixth> GlobeCoder, go to the system menu, then preferences, then screen resolution
[11:48] <Seveas> gnomefreak, nope
[11:48] <GlobeCoder> rixth lmfao
[11:48] <Seveas> it's payware too on windows
[11:48] <fevoldj2>  Are there any configuration changes I need to make for php5 to get it to work with apache?
[11:48] <guydebord> the thing is I am currently using a spanish MS desktop so its kinda confusing
[11:48] <fevoldj2> I've installed both with adept
[11:48] <GlobeCoder> Seveas
[11:48] <rixth> GlobeCoder, why funny?
[11:48] <GlobeCoder> i dont get it on the help.
[11:48] <GlobeCoder> rixth.. lol
[11:49] <gp> Is the flashplayer-mozilla package not availiable for AMD64?
[11:49] <guydebord> directly through explorer then?
[11:49] <Killer_Smurf> Seveas Chatzilla works too
[11:49] <rixth> gp, no
[11:49] <rixth> Pfft. Reinstall. Back later.
[11:49] <foomanchew> help with setting up SB Live please
[11:49] <Seveas> gp, macromedicrap does not want to support amd64
[11:50] <gnomefreak> Seveas,  hold on im getting you the x-chat download site
[11:50] <Weng> If I'm specifying commands to be run in a preconfiguration file, they're run as root, right?
[11:50] <jkl-> could anyone help me with setting up static routing?
[11:50] <faust> Are the system tools supposed to start damn slow, or is it just me that's happening to?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> free x-chat http://www.silverex.org/download/
[11:52] <thewayofzen> free xchat  apt-get install xchat :)
[11:52] <Weng> And I knew I should have brought home more test deployment systems.
[11:52] <soundray> thewayofzen, you missed part of that thread.
[11:52] <Weng> Waiting an hour after making a change to know if it worked or not is a PITA
[11:52] <gnomefreak> thewayofzen,  for windows that command doesnt work in DOS  :)
[11:52] <thewayofzen> soundray and gnomefreak  apparently so :)
[11:52] <Mirith> ahahah... Blimp vs the Golden Gate Bridge... guess whose winning!
[11:52] <Weng> the blimp.
[11:52] <randy> Hey all.
[11:53] <Mirith> I <3 Thanksgiving james bond
[11:53] <Weng> James Bond is the ultimate badass.
[11:53] <Mirith> he is
[11:53] <jkl-> Mirith: what does "<3" mean?
[11:53] <randy> Anyone able to compile gnaomebaker on breezy?  configure can't find GNOME.  I installed build-essential, gnome-devel and x-window-system-dev.
[11:53] <Mirith> its a heart emoticon
[11:53] <Weng> It means he's less than three thanksgiving james bonds.
[11:54] <Seveas> randy, apt-get install gnome
[11:54] <jkl-> Mirith: ahhh ;)
[11:54] <Seveas> Weng, pfftopic talk elsewhere
[11:54] <Seveas> randy, apt-get install gnomebaker
[11:54] <gimmulf> cafuego:  did you see the errors?
[11:55] <randy> Seveas: I guess I could do that but I'd really like to compile it.  I'm stuborn.
[11:55] <apokryphos> randy: also note that the best way to satisfy depends (if and when you can), is using apt; simply apt-get build-dep package
[11:55] <sproingie> randy: apt-get build-dep gnomebaker
[11:55] <gimmulf> Does anyone understand theese erros im getting when trying to startx right after a new installation of Ubuntu, im using an Radeon X800 Pro Pci Express cardhttp://pastebin.com/437554
[11:55] <Seveas> randy, in that case: apt-get build-dep gnomebaker
[11:55] <guydebord> Im having some problems configuring my wireless connection.
[11:56] <randy> hmm.
[11:56] <ColD_7> where should i put my downloaded font
[11:56] <GlobeCoder> Seveas
[11:56] <ColD_7> ?
[11:56] <guydebord> It shouldn`t be difficult. Already installed ndiswrapper
[11:56] <GlobeCoder> can you tell me how to fix the dam resolution step by step?
[11:56] <ColD_7> i cant find the font:/// as mentioned in the help
[11:56] <GlobeCoder> i dont understand anything from that help
[11:56] <guydebord> In fact the wireless already work at the place I had it configured.
[11:57] <thewayofzen> GlobeCoder, do you know the scan rates of your monitor?
[11:57] <sproingie> ColD_7: ~/.fonts
[11:57] <GlobeCoder> scan rates?
[11:57] <GlobeCoder> O.o
[11:57] <guydebord> The problem is configuring it to my own IP
[11:57] <thewayofzen> GlobeCoder,  the horizontal and vertical scan rates of the model of monitor you have
[11:57] <GlobeCoder> how can i find out?
[11:57] <GlobeCoder> but
[11:57] <GlobeCoder> hold on
[11:58] <GlobeCoder> ill get u a screenshot of what i see
[11:58] <GlobeCoder> well
[11:58] <GlobeCoder> its like
[11:58] <GlobeCoder> over wide
[11:58] <GlobeCoder> really over wide
[11:58] <thewayofzen> GlobeCoder,  for example i have a Dell 1025tm Trinitron monitor.  its scan rates are Hor 85  and Vert 120
[11:59] <thewayofzen> GlobeCoder,  a screenshot will not help me.  you need to use google or the manual that came with your monitor to find out what the SCAN RATES in Hz are for your monitor
[11:59] <GlobeCoder> im trying to run it in microsoft virtual pc
[11:59] <GlobeCoder> i dont mean for the scan rates
[11:59] <GlobeCoder> lmfao
[11:59] <GlobeCoder> im not that dumb
[11:59] <vbgunz> Happy Thanksgiving All!
[11:59] <ArDz> its thanksgiving?
[11:59] <thewayofzen> GlobeCoder,  then perhaps you need to ask your question with all the information involved so that people know what you are trying to do
[11:59] <Zedugh> gimmulf,  in your xorg.conf file, device section, what driver is specified for your video card?
[11:59] <jkl-> still 1 min to thanksgiving :P
[11:59] <thewayofzen> GlobeCoder, good luck.
[11:59] <GlobeCoder> ...
[11:59] <GlobeCoder> lmao..
[11:59] <gimmulf> Zedugh:  ati, i've also tried "vga"


[00:01] <_diablo> that is ridiculous
[00:01] <_diablo> copyright law annoys me so much
[00:13]  * Takyoji copyrights diablo
[00:14]  * Takyoji spraypaints Mickey Mouse on a wall, and runs off chased by lawyers of Warner Chappell
[00:15] <jenkinbr> lol
[00:15]  * jenkinbr eats RIAA
[00:38] <Takyoji> Any thoughts on the Nexus One?
[00:46] <_diablo> it's sexy as hell
[00:48] <Takyoji> I wonder if Windows Mobile will continue to supposedly decline. :P
[00:48] <_diablo> I would guess so
[00:48] <_diablo> it's awful
[00:48] <_diablo> they have to rewrite it
[00:49] <Takyoji> hah http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/yahoo-spy-prices
[00:53] <Takyoji> Gotta love how companies try to sue in the consideration of being a "DMCA violation" of something leaked.
[00:54] <_diablo> haha, yeeeeah
[02:13] <__diablo> anyone here using lucid yet?
[02:17] <Takyoji> I think I downloaded the ISO a while ago of Alpha 1 to poke at in a VM, but haven't done much since with it
[02:18] <_diablo> Takyoji: you don't know off hand if it's still alpha-1, do you?
[02:18] <Takyoji> I think it's still Alpha 1
[02:18] <_diablo> because I seem to recall Snoopy saying he was excited for 10.04a4
[02:18] <Takyoji> I can check infact
[02:18] <_diablo> okay, that was a weird comment
[02:18] <_diablo> yeah, it's on my calendar
[02:18] <_diablo> lucid A2 was scheduled for jan 14
[02:19] <_diablo> is there a torrent location for the alpha? I found the direct, but I like sharing ;)
[02:19] <Takyoji> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/lucid/
[02:19] <_diablo> Takyoji: beautiful. thanks a bunch!
[02:25] <Takyoji> #ubuntu is a blackhole; it just sucks me in and doesn't let me out..
[02:25] <Takyoji> Because I'm too compelled to help others
[02:28] <_diablo> I understand :) I do that on fedora sometimes
[02:28] <_diablo> luckily I'm ignorant enough to not be much help to anyone
[02:28] <_diablo> so I just word vomit all over it
[02:38] <Takyoji> otherwise apparently nobody had a response for my question about the lack of write-ability for SD cards. :P
[02:39] <Takyoji> Shall I harass the mailing list about it to see if anyone has an idea?
[02:39] <Takyoji> (the Minnesota mailing list)
[02:42] <_diablo> I would
[02:42] <_diablo> People there are very good with very technical stuff. Put as much info in the first email as possible
[20:03] <JChristensen> Hi I'm new
[20:05] <mr_steve> JChristensen: hi!
[20:06] <JChristensen> I was looking at starting a LoCo team but i see it has already been done
[20:09] <mr_steve> Yep, that's how I found this team, I was doing some research on starting a local group and found someone had already done it
[20:09] <JChristensen> have you gone to any events?
[20:10] <mr_steve> No, not yet. There was an installfest a while ago, but other than that we haven't had many in-person type events
[20:11] <mr_steve> But I and perhaps _diablo will be trying to do fairly regular "Ubuntu Hour" events at coffeeshops in Minneapolis at least
[20:11] <JChristensen> Oh ok, I started a consulting firm last august and i'm looking to get do some community events to get the word out about free software
[20:12] <JChristensen> its amazing how many people i've talked to have never even herd of linux ubuntu etc.
[20:13] <mr_steve> Yeah, that's the idea behind the Ubuntu Hour, to just sort of sit at a coffeeshop with a bunch of Ubuntu stuff on the table and engage people in conversation
[20:13] <mr_steve> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour
[20:14] <mr_steve> You might want to check out these guys too, they actually have regular in-person meetings: http://www.penguinsunbound.org/
[20:14] <JChristensen> ok thank you
[20:15] <JChristensen> you ever think about doing a community ed class?
[20:15] <mr_steve> Personally I haven't, I don't know if the idea's been kicked around here before or not
[20:16] <mr_steve> tonyyarusso would probably know, but he seems to be away at the moment
[20:16] <JChristensen> i've been working on that idea for a while
[20:17] <mr_steve> Oh, before I forget, I should mention that we are now trying to have regular IRC meetings in this channel, on the first monday of every month at 7PM CST
[20:17] <mr_steve> Anyone is basically welcome to contribute topics for the agenda
[20:17] <JChristensen> i'll have to put that on my agenda
[20:19] <mr_steve> Yeah, it's not always that active in here, but most of us try to participate in the meetings. It's usually more active in the evenings, too.
[20:20] <tonyyarusso> JChristensen: I'm not aware of any type of community ed class effort yet, no.
[20:20] <mr_steve> ah there he is, hey :)
[20:21] <JChristensen> what do you think of the idea?
[20:21] <tonyyarusso> Could be interesting - do you have more details of what you have in mind?
[20:23] <JChristensen> would have to come up with a curriculum, start out with an introduction into free software, offer liveCD's, get into openoffice a little...
[20:23] <JChristensen> maybe do an install
[21:36] <Takyoji> Oh come on, nobody Slashdotted news of my birthday; geez! :P
[21:43] <Snoopy> So the 64-bit Ubuntu is supposed to be faster but it had too many bugs to tell
[21:44] <Snoopy> I so then I installed the 32-bit 9.04
[22:27] <_diablo> mr_steve: you and definitely _diablo :)
[22:28] <_diablo> Snoopy: hi
[22:29] <_diablo> 64 will be faster. did you say that 64 10.04 had bugs? I mean, it's an alpha
[22:29] <_diablo> 64 bit 9.04 will be as stable as 32 bit 9.04
[22:29] <_diablo> although, may I ask why you're not using 9.10?
[22:29] <_diablo> it's stable as well
[22:29] <Snoopy> 9.10 has less stuff
[22:29] <Snoopy> like the screensavers
[22:29] <_diablo> Snoopy: like what?
[22:29] <_diablo> you can install those you know...
[22:30] <Snoopy> I did not know that
[22:30] <_diablo> but about the shirt: we don't know that information yet. tonyyarusso is the one in charge I believe, but we don't have a critical mass yet. We're going to wait a few days. We should know by next monday or tuesday
[22:30] <Snoopy> 10.04 is so unstable, the restart after the upgrade was bad... I had trouble getting to the log in page
[22:30] <_diablo> we want to give people at least a week to respond
[22:31] <_diablo> Snoopy: yeah, that's what happens with an alpha1 release. it won't be partially stable until a release candidate
[22:31] <_diablo> even the beta won't be stable
[22:31] <_diablo> stick with 9.10 unless you're looking for pain like me ;)
[22:32] <Snoopy> You have 10.04?
[22:33] <_diablo> Snoopy: in a virtual box
[22:36] <Snoopy> _diablo: How is the virtual box working for you then?
[22:37] <_diablo> well, I have only installed it and haven't played with it yet
[22:37] <Snoopy> ok
[22:37] <_diablo> but I ran 10.04 for a week or two before the alpha came out
[22:37] <Snoopy> how?
[22:37] <h00k> daily builds!
[22:38] <Snoopy> oh
[22:38] <Snoopy> I still do not know much about Ubuntu
[22:39] <Snoopy> But I am trying to not have to rely on windows
[22:41] <Snoopy> I am having trouble playing videos that need the windows speech decoder
[22:42] <_diablo> h00k: also, 9.10 using lucid repos :)
[22:42] <h00k> or this,sure
[22:43] <_diablo> Snoopy: honestly, if you're looking to move from windows, it will be much easier to just use a stable release. set up a virtual box to test experimental stuff
[22:43] <_diablo> also, make a lot of backups :)
[22:43] <Snoopy> how can I make backups to a usb hard drive?
[22:44] <_diablo> Snoopy: do you mean automatically, or manually?
[22:44] <_diablo> also, what do you want backed up?
[22:44] <Snoopy> I want everything backed up and it would be nice to have it automatic. I would like to boot off of the backup
[22:45] <_diablo> define everything. your entire operating system?
[22:46] <_diablo> i mean, you can copy your entire filesystem... but you might as well just install your OS to a portable drive like an sd card
[22:46] <Snoopy> Everything on my hard drive
[22:47] <Snoopy> what would the easiest way be to have everything on an external hard drive and be able to boot up from the hard drive on a mac?
[22:48] <_diablo> oof. I don't have much experience with Macs but from what I know, they are hard to configure
[22:49] <_diablo> and don't interface well with PCs. I am not the right person to ask though.
[22:49] <_diablo> ummm, I would ask on the #ubuntu channel. Or ask again when someone else is on here
[22:50] <Snoopy> they can't be that much different because of the intel processor
[22:50] <_diablo> sorry I couldn't help with that
[22:50] <_diablo> ahhhh, how wrong that is.
[22:50] <_diablo> they have weird MBR settings on their hard drives.
[22:50] <_diablo> and I'm not sure their BIOS allow external boot devices without serious hacking
[22:50] <_diablo> the CPU isn't the issue, it's the peripherals.
[22:50] <_diablo> but I gtg, dinner. sorry I couldn't help.
[22:51] <Snoopy> bye