[00:00] <oerheks> interesting..
[00:01] <V|A> if someone could tell me how to run filemanager as root that  would be appreciates, i dont seem to be able to find anything useful online
[00:01] <oerheks> then you should refrase your question properly .. what ubuntu version and so on
[00:01] <oerheks> standard is gnome3.
[00:01] <V|A> 20.04
[00:01] <sarnold> log in as root?
[00:02] <glick> hi
[00:02] <glick> i set up a cronjob to every 20 days or so renew my lets encrypt cert
[00:02] <glick> but i dont remimber how
[00:02] <glick> or where i did that
[00:02] <glick> how can i see what my cron jobs are?
[00:03] <oerheks> check them out as root; https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-show-what-cron-jobs-are-setup/
[00:04] <V|A> oh thank lord
[00:05] <V|A> at least im learning how to inspect linux that for that learned something importand :D
[00:06] <glick> hmm
[00:06] <glick> seems i dont have crontab installed even
[00:06] <glick> is there another way to automate tasks?
[00:06] <sarnold> systemd timers
[00:06] <glick> i think i did i just cant remimber how
[00:06] <sarnold> but you almost certainly have cron installed..
[00:06] <glick> if i do sudo crontab -l it says command not found
[00:08] <sarnold> glick: how about dpkg -l cron ?
[00:09] <glick> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[00:09] <glick> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
[00:09] <glick> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[00:09] <glick> not sure what that all means
[00:10] <oerheks> that is just a header?
[00:10] <oerheks> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[00:10] <oerheks> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
[00:10] <oerheks> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[00:10] <glick> yes
[00:10] <sarnold> heh it's missing the important line :)
[00:10] <oerheks> not an output of status
[00:10] <glick> version says non
[00:10] <glick> architecture none
[00:10] <oerheks> that follows below the [00:11] <glick> +++-[00:11] <glick> un  cron           <none>       <none>       (no description available)
[00:11] <sarnold> wow sure enough no cron. crazy. I wonder how that happened.
[00:11] <oerheks> so you have cron .. no job, try systemctl list-timers
[00:12] <glick> ahh yes
[00:12] <glick> there it is
[00:13] <glick> thanks
[00:14] <oerheks> have fun!
[00:14] <glick> thanks
[00:41] <j2bv16> I lost my HDMI audio and wayland in my ubuntu 21.04
[00:41] <j2bv16> Tried to install amd-gpupro drivers
[00:59] <VIA> dear god, i will never run a GUI on ubuntu again.  please dont eat my parents
[01:02] <sarnold> heh, have you found out why everyone always says "don't run your filemanager as root"?
[01:07] <VIA> yes i found out you all feel pretty smart
[01:07] <VIA> its annoying getting a pile of dumbness as answer when looking for help you know
[01:07] <VIA> i realize maybe i  should always manage my  distro and details when asking tho
[01:08] <VIA> i havent bricked a single thing trying stuff as rooot in my entire time using linux
[01:09] <VIA> however shit breaks itself and breaks itself updating. uefi is a problem too but i think not atm should be on  legacy
[01:10] <VIA> who was the dude that said "login as root" ? wish i was better with names srs
[01:10] <VIA> only useful answer. i refrained from replying that it would overcomplicate things
[01:11] <sarnold> VIA: heh, that was me :)
[01:11] <VIA> but  it would have been a feasible solution i guess
[01:11] <VIA> excellent :)
[01:11] <sarnold> X11 applications *really* aren't written with the assumption of multiple user accounts all working in one session
[01:12] <sarnold> the toolkits are huge and do a billion file operations all over the home directory, and it's just so easy for gui applications run through sudo or su or whatever to make a huge mess
[01:12] <VIA> what was the app named ppl suggested i hadn that seemed to be standard
[01:12] <VIA> seems my "filemanager" here is exo-open
[01:13] <sarnold> VIA: nautilus? this plugin? https://itsfoss.com/open-nautilus-as-administrator/
[01:13] <VIA> i have no ida what X11 is
[01:13] <sarnold> X11 is the default graphics environment
[01:13] <sarnold> KDE or gnome or fluxbox or i3wm whatever run in it
[01:13] <VIA> yea nautilus its not here. i generally prefer not to install additionall stuff, when i have already working stuff, and know it should work in a specified manner
[01:13] <sarnold> there's a newer thingy, wayland, that aims to replace X11
[01:14] <sarnold> but wayland is more complicated in some ways (the 'compositor' is built in to whatever 'window manager' and copy and paste and all kinds of other things are all implemented in the one tool
[01:14] <sarnold> and it's simpler in others, I think it refuses to let you run different programs as different users entirely
[01:15] <GSMarquis> Would love to see a LTS with wayland, pipewire, and BTRFS.
[01:15] <sarnold> GSMarquis: wayland *might* happen in 22.04. I'm less sure about pipewire. btrfs feels pretty unlikely to be a default imho
[01:16] <GSMarquis> Just wishes I guess.
[01:16] <sarnold> be sure to give it a shot in 21.10 and file bugs on things that don't work quite right :)
[01:17] <VIA> i dont know about user or session management entirely, like 0
[01:18] <VIA> noticed i cant just log out and login as a different user, while the other sess/user remains
[01:18] <VIA> im used to that from windows
[01:19] <sarnold> hmm, I've never tried two graphical sessions at once, but using text console as one user and X as another user should work fine
[01:19] <sarnold> it's probably possible to get multiple grpahical sessions to work at once too, I'm just not sure how :)
[01:19] <VIA> makes sense
[01:20] <VIA> im unfamiliar with terminology
[01:20] <VIA> when looking for solutions i go for what i know but often just find endless deadends
[01:21] <VIA> like, what is the newest version of "ubuntu" whats the most recent ..
[01:22] <sarnold> this table is usually kept up to date https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[01:22] <VIA> especially since everyone is so strong about how important updates are
[01:23] <VIA> when everyone updates everyone is on the same page right
[01:23] <VIA> i run a recent version should be up there, either 2nd or 3rd in that row
[02:29] <alkisg> VIA: it's supported to run multiple sessions as different users. It's not supported to run multiple sessions as the same user
[02:30] <alkisg> Most desktop environments have a "switch user" button somewhere, but I'm not using the default "gnome" so I can't tell you exactly where the button is
[02:35] <sarnold> alkisg: which one are you using? iirc VIA is using xfce
[02:36] <alkisg> sarnold: currently I have KDE and MATE around
[02:36] <alkisg> (on vacations :D)
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> on gnome its the last option shutdown/logout in right upper corner
[02:37] <alkisg> Second answer there: https://askubuntu.com/questions/79318/how-can-i-switch-users-from-within-xfce
[02:37] <alkisg> I.e. lock screen, then click on switch user
[02:44] <coc0nut> hm struggeling to set up ssh keys on ubuntu 20.04... disabling passwords in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config and systemctl restart sshd.service - still asks for password?
[02:47] <sarnold> coc0nut: try: sudo sshd -T | grep password
[02:47] <sarnold> coc0nut: that will test your config and dump the full thing
[02:49] <coc0nut> outputted passwordauthentication yes
[02:49] <coc0nut> permitemptypasswords no
[02:50] <sarnold> heh, well, the good news is at least that matches what you're seeing when you connect to it..
[02:50] <sarnold> my config file also includes this:
[02:50] <sarnold> Include /etc/ssh/sshd_config.d/*.conf
[02:51] <coc0nut> oh !
[02:51] <sarnold> do you have a similar line? (you probably do) -- do you have any configs in that directory that would change the setting?
[02:51] <coc0nut> yep
[02:51] <coc0nut> but nothing in there
[02:52] <coc0nut> had a feeling it doesnt read ssh/sshd_config
[02:52] <coc0nut> port was changed at least :p
[02:52] <oerheks> find ChallengeResponseAuthentication line. Make sure it's value is set to no
[02:52] <coc0nut> its set to no
[02:53] <oerheks> sudo systemctl restart ssh .. not sshd perhaps?
[02:54] <genii-core> No, it's ssh and not sshd
[02:54] <oerheks> #PasswordAuthentication yes  <- dash in front does not mean 'no' --> PasswordAuthentication no
[02:54] <oerheks> else, i have no clue
[02:54] <oerheks> indeed genii-core
[02:55] <coc0nut> yup
[02:56] <sarnold> iirc there's a systemd alias for sshd to also work in place of ssh for some of the systemctl commands
[02:56] <oerheks> oke, last clue; are you on the right server?
[02:56] <oerheks> lolz
[02:56] <sarnold> oerheks: solid question :) heh
[03:01] <coc0nut> hehe been using debian until now. ubuntu seems to have some features :)
[03:29] <pi0> For the function F(x,y,z) = ∑M(1,3,5), what would the minterms be, i am thinking (0,2,3,6,7)
[04:04] <cisme_> if I run shasum -a 256 thinghere should I receive a  - at that end? or is that an indication the string i entered is incorrect?
[04:57] <guiverc> cisme_, I'd expct a "calculated-checksum  thinghere\n" as output
[04:58] <cisme_> thank you just need some kind of confirmation, i thought it was incorrect
[06:06] <punkgeek>  Hello, I want to hide the network configuration in initramfs. I've tried to use GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet console=tty3" but it causes LUKS password entry message didn't show up.
[06:48] <Guest96> when I tried to publish local repo using "aptly -config=/etc/aptly.conf publish repo -component=stable,experimental test_xenial_stable test_xenial_experimental ubuntu-xenial" I get "ERROR: prefix/distribution already used by another published repo: ubuntu-xenial/xenial [all, amd64, i386] publishes {experimental: [test_xenial_experimental]},
[06:48] <Guest96> {stable: [test_xenial_stable]}". How to solve this?
[08:11] <Cumol> hey everyone!
[08:12] <Cumol> Recent convert from Macos (have used ubuntu on various other machines before). One thing I miss from macos is the fast spotlight search. Is there something similar on linux/ubuntu?
[08:14] <oerheks> Cumol, hit the windows key, once.. unless you have a mac keyboard = cmd ⌘
[08:23] <Cumol> hitting the windows key once is not doing anything. I am on ubuntu budgie with a US keyboard
[08:24] <Cumol> What is it supposed to open?
[08:49] <The_Seeker> Cumol: you may have more luck asking in #ubuntu-budgie
[08:51] <Cumol>  thanks The_Seeker
[11:09] <Guest9382> Hello, I have Ubuntu 20.04.2 , today after package update it no longer uses ppa saiarcot895-chromium-dev but switched to official package, how can i force system to use ppa package ? thx
[11:15] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/chromium-dev?field.series_filter=focal gives 93, official gives 85 ..
[11:16] <andypandy> I just got my first zfs raidz1 up and running. I have got the "Previous version" (shadow copy) working when doing a manual snapshot. Great! Now I need to automate snapshots to protect from accidental deletion etc since there are no recycle bin when deleting files from network storage in windows. Anyone know of a good tool to use to auomate the rolling snapshots?
[11:16] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/chromium  gives 92 and edge/93 ...
[11:17] <metallic> Hello everyone. I have a question on removing a desktop environment.    I am running Ubuntu 20.04 with KDE desktop environment (Kubuntu), and I want to switch to lxqt. I first thought of installing the lxqt tasksel task and deinstalling the KDE's, but I am unsure of the side effects of this procedure. Do you think it would be best to reinstall the OS with lxqt?
[11:18] <guiverc> metallic, you can also just install lubuntu on top of your existing kubuntu, then have both.. As they are both Qt5 the side effects will be minimal (I have a system with both installed; you select which you'll use for a session at login)
[11:19] <guiverc> `sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop` will get everything; what I was thinking with ^
[11:19]  * guiverc did the reverse; adding kubuntu-desktop to my lubuntu install
[11:20] <oerheks> a clean install side by side gives the full experience. but sure, it can be installed on top.
[11:20] <metallic> guiverc: thanks for the answer. Yes, I know I can have multiple desktop environments, but I no longer want to use plasma 5, so I am fearful that uninstalling it will take some applications along
[11:20] <oerheks> adding a desktop is no problem, removing one is interesting.
[11:21] <guiverc> uninstalling kubuntu-desktop will cause all non-manually installed apps to be marked for removal... but it's the alternative; ie. remove then install lubuntu-desktop for everything..
[11:22] <guiverc> (packages auto-installed by desktop will be removed when you next `apt autoremove`)
[11:22] <oerheks> booting the iso, replacing, would be an option too
[11:22] <metallic> mmmm that is exactly what I was thinking of: uninstallation will remove all the dependencies :(
[11:22] <guiverc> those used by Lubuntu/LXQt will be kept (or re-installed if you autoremove before you do the install)..
[11:23]  * guiverc wispers; I like some Kubuntu features; eg. it has great tools to select new themes for sddm; Lubuntu doesn't.. so I like both installed
[11:24] <metallic> yes, KDE is very customizable, but I feel it just unnecessarily engulfs my memory XD
[11:25] <metallic> my computer is kind of outdated, but it can still keep up with KDE
[11:27] <guiverc> I use LXQt almost exclusively myself (maybe being on Lubuntu team is part of why)... but other than disk space used, & larger updates (both kubuntu & lubuntu packages will be upgraded) the effect is minimal ; this pc is a 2009 dell
[11:28] <guiverc> KDE uses Qt5 (same as LXQt) but also KF5 so yes it's heavier; but the KF5 will only be used when/if you use KDE apps  (which at times you may still anyway)
[11:29] <metallic> You sure are right, but I feel it lighter with lxqt than with KDE :/
[11:30] <metallic> I think I am going to try them both together for some weeks, and then make up my mind on whether or not remove one of them. Thanks for the advice :) guiverc oerheks
[11:30] <guiverc> you're most welcome
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:05] <Nitrousoxide> nickserv
[12:05] <Nitrousoxide> Oops, ignore that
[12:48] <Guest14> Hello, does anybody know if/when the Ubuntu broadcast known SSIDs in preferred network list via 802.11 probe requests? I'm not able to find any official docs or anything
[12:49] <kpcyrd> Guest14: wpa_supplicant is likely the search term you're missing
[12:50] <kpcyrd> although I'm not sure if NetworkManager does its own probes
[12:57] <rbasak> Guest14: what kpcyrd is right. I'd add that I think the list of known SSIDs is configured/known/managed in NetworkManager on a regular Ubuntu desktop install, so that's where you'd need to look.
[12:58] <rbasak> IOW I don't think that configured but not connected SSIDs could possibly be broadcast without NetworkManager's help, since that's the only component that knows what they are.
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> Guest14: gnome has a help icon aswell, the blue ? icon has a wireless help section
[13:02] <Guest14> well can't find the wpa_supplicant config :)
[13:04] <Guest14> there is `wifi.scan-rand-mac-address=no` in `/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf` which is also an info I was looking for, now I need to check if `passive_scan` is set to `1 or 0` in `wpa_supplicant`
[13:33] <goahead> Hi,, I'm having problem with my ubuntu 2.04. Need some help
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> elaborate your question a bit more goahead so volunteers can think along with you
[13:36] <goahead> thanks.. it seems like it freeze the desktop while im whatching a video or when an small gif. add is on the display
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> goahead: can you pastebin us; sudo lshw -C video && uname -a && lsb_release -a
[13:39] <goahead> paste all the result?
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> in a pastebin please goahead
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> !paste
[13:44] <goahead> i dont know how to pastebin
[13:44] <goahead> sorry
[13:44] <oerheks> https://paste.ubuntu.com and copy the output there
[13:46] <goahead> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GRR3RDVbHD/
[13:46] <goahead> is that right?
[13:47] <oerheks> goahead, yes, fine. videocard seems ok, radeon driver.
[13:48] <oerheks> how much system memory?
[13:48] <goahead> ram 8 gb
[13:48] <goahead> ddr2
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> kernel looks odd to me?
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> system up to date goahead ?
[13:51] <goahead> when i get this freeze if i'm able to close the webpage (alt F4)and then logout (alt F1)and suspend my pc when i wake my pc it returns image and then it freeze again when browsing..
[13:51] <oerheks> same kernel here
[13:52] <oerheks> witch such issues, perform a memtest86 run
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> oh kk hwe
[13:52] <goahead> im installing the lates software updates right now
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> goahead: lets investigate a bit deeper, type dmesg in a terminal and paste in the past site for us
[13:57] <goahead> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4hxZrQmWXq/
[13:57] <goahead> hope that will help
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> tnx goahead i wonder if its your multiple devices connected on your graphics card that could make radeon glitch/freeze
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> goahead: did you try if you could trigger those freezes with 1 screen connected?
[14:02] <goahead> by the time im on 1 monitor HDMI
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> ok goahead
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> goahead: maybe leave a journalctl -f open while you play around, and see if you can catch errors on those freezes
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> goahead: try out different browsers too perhaps
[14:07] <goahead> by the time i had two drops went suspend and come back
[14:07] <goahead> if i get this errors on journalctl -f and post them should help?
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> goahead: lets hope you can catch something useful
[14:10] <goahead>  drmmode_wait_vblank failed for scanout update: Cannot allocate memory
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> goahead: also check if you have any crashes in /var/crash
[14:18] <goahead> when a new mesage appears on the chat i take a circle of same errors
[14:19] <oerheks> witch such issues, perform a memtest86 run  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MemoryTest
[14:20] <goahead> memtest86 is for ram? i dont have any probs on ram..
[14:24] <goahead> i take a bunch of errors on journalctl -f and im only on chat and minimized browser
[14:26] <goahead> im taking theese errors while im schrolling the chat or when a new message appears
[14:30] <goahead> drmmode_wait_vblank failed for scanout update: Cannot allocate memory
[14:31] <goahead> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kvDGsYStWb/
[14:32] <goahead> im gettoing errors on ubuntu and mint on this pc but works flawless on other laptop
[14:33] <goahead> memtest86 passed everything
[14:37] <mattmu> goahead: Someone else had similiar problem here.  I don't know if this helps or not. https://bugzilla.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105308
[14:43] <TJ-> alis list libvirt
[14:43] <oerheks> mattmu, he uses openradeon
[14:54] <epistax> Heya, I recently got Ubuntu on a work desktop. I want to be able to start a session while I'm at work, and then continue it remotely (from windows). I have xrdp / tightvncserver, what I'm not sure about is how to host a vnc session from the existing x session. Is anyone aware of a complete guide on how to set this up? Thx
[14:55] <donofrio> epistax, are you tunneling that vnc session though ssh?
[14:56] <epistax> donofrio, I think it's tunneled through rdp. I rdp into a session that'll let me connect to vnc-any, but I don't know how to make a vnc session for the existing X session
[14:58] <donofrio> epistax, what I'm saying is you never want to use vnc with ssl tunnel, rdp is not really strong encryption (if I recall - others here will know more I'm sure)
[14:59] <epistax> donofrio: On top of it, the home to work link is on a VPN
[15:03] <donofrio> epistax, someone gets on to your machine vpn will not help....just my 2 cents
[15:04] <epistax> donofrio: Understood, I'm still interested in how to create a vnc session for the local session
[15:15] <gordonjcp> epistax: if you want to go down a strange but powerful route and you need to VNC or RDP a *lot*, look into Apache Guacamole
[15:18] <donofrio> gordonjcp, neat but seem like overkill.
[15:20] <epistax> haha
[15:20] <epistax> Just to be perfectly clear, I can already use RDP -> VNC right now. I just don't have an existing session.
[15:21] <epistax> I am assuming I'm looking for a change to how I set up the initial X session to have a VNC server connected to it
[15:21] <gordonjcp> epistax: have you seen https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-vnc-on-ubuntu-20-04
[15:22] <gordonjcp> ?
[15:22] <gordonjcp> epistax: in general people tend not to use remote desktop stuff with Linux though
[15:22] <epistax> gordonjcp: I have an IT department to thank. But it's fine. We RDP to the machine, and the machine vncs into itself. I just need to get that vncserver to show the local session.
[15:27] <epistax> I think the vncserver is already set up similar to how it's shown in step 1 and 2. You connect and it launches an xfce session.
[15:38] <goahead> i read the article mattmu said find it some kind difficult to enable DC.. i think this might work?
[15:41] <ioria> dc is for amdgpu, not for radeon, afaik
[15:48] <goahead> so this should not work for me... is there something thatv can i do and works for my hardware and get the os working again as it was
[15:52] <ioria> goahead, sorry, what's your issue exactly ?
[16:09] <goahead> {sorry i freezed}im getting freezes (with cursor moving and responding)and for my screen i suspened and login again to come back normal
[16:12] <goahead> these all came suddently.i was using mint with a multimonitor setup with no problem for years.someone mentioned thatt might be because of many monitors but now im on a different single monitor
[16:15] <goahead> i have  journalctl -f open and im getting lots of errors while im schrolling anything
[16:19] <goahead> is ther something i can do except looking for a new pc
[16:20] <goahead> is there an active troubleshoot chat
[16:23] <goahead> i had apply two radeon cards anddidnt manage to have a stable mint or ubuntu as i had before
[16:23] <goahead> im clean instal the system with the same results
[16:25] <goahead> even on the live cd while im installing i gett freezes but i leave it much time and force shutdown when the disclight stop bliking
[16:26] <zaggynl> goahead: can you show a pastebin of the errors?
[16:26] <zaggynl> also the specs of your hardware
[16:26] <goahead> i have a    journalctl -f open by the time i boot
[16:26] <goahead> you want this?
[16:27] <zaggynl> it would help in narrowing it down
[16:27] <goahead> can you paste the commands you want me to aplly
[16:27] <goahead> im rookie
[16:28] <goahead> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wgcW9DtTdM/
[16:29] <zaggynl> thanks
[16:29] <zaggynl> I'm seeing some "lost power" messages for usb hub
[16:30] <goahead> pci hub?
[16:30] <zaggynl> connected controller
[16:31] <zaggynl> so in short, the issue is that your pc freezes shortly after startup?
[16:31] <zaggynl> and it was stable before?
[16:32] <goahead> it freezes after i open browser and schrolling pages or watchin video
[16:32] <goahead> there is a molex rail from psu going to this controller and after to 4 5v concted fans
[16:33] <goahead> is thhat drain much power
[16:33] <zaggynl> should be fine, the issue might be driver or psu, question is what changed
[16:34] <zaggynl> the radeon gpus, they have the pcie power plugs connected if any?
[16:35] <goahead> the controller is old a usb3.0 ,i have some usb 2.0  plugged on mobo whitch is the (faulty)
[16:35] <goahead> power plugs gpu connected 2 6pin
[16:36] <zaggynl> I've had issues with specific psu/radeon card combinations, some radeon cards tend to have sudden high power draw, which some psus can't handle
[16:37] <zaggynl> https://knowledge.seasonic.com/article/20-focus-plus-and-gpu-potential-compatibility-issues
[16:37] <zaggynl> huh, article is gone
[16:38] <zaggynl> https://archive.is/20181125014716/https://knowledge.seasonic.com/article/20-focus-plus-and-gpu-potential-compatibility-issues
[16:41] <goahead> but i had unpluged the fans and all that stuff with the same results
[16:41] <goahead> the psu is suggested for the gpuu and 50 W over
[16:44] <goahead> and i apply a gpu card with no external power with same results
[16:45] <goahead> i had tryies on radeon hd 7950 &radeon hd 4670
[16:46] <zaggynl> so when the pc freezes, is it completely frozen? caps lock/num lock don't change LED lights on keyboard?
[16:46] <goahead> wich usb controller faulty?
[16:49] <zaggynl> not sure if they're faulty, I just saw some messages about the usb hub power being reset after suspend/resume, may not be the issue
[16:49] <zaggynl> but for finding the issue it may be better to make a forum post
[16:51] <goahead> alright i cant make an acount to mint page to start a post
[16:52] <goahead> i doesn't accept my passwords..
[16:52] <goahead> even with 25 character
[16:54] <zaggynl> are you using linux mint?
[16:55] <infospy> Had same issue not long with a rx580 even on a windows environment in fact til today I cannot use the latest driver on that card or it will do just that.
[16:55] <goahead> now after several formats i jumped to ubuntu but i was on mint before
[16:55] <infospy> The browser would work if i disable acceleration
[16:55] <goahead> on windows i am good
[16:56] <goahead> if i can disable acceleration on a command i was able to do
[16:56] <zaggynl> support was dropped for the older amd gpus
[16:57] <zaggynl> https://community.amd.com/t5/blogs/product-and-os-support-update-for-radeon-software-adrenalin-21-6/ba-p/477423
[16:57] <goahead> so old gpu no usable?
[16:57] <zaggynl> maybe, with an older version of distro
[16:57] <infospy> I have to use a version of adrenaline from 2019
[16:58] <infospy> the latest one doesn't work for me
[16:58] <goahead> i dont care gaming just web or working with no errors with a main driver
[16:59] <goahead> i started mint with hd 4670 with no driver support and it was just fine'
[17:00] <zaggynl> with windows being fine it does sound like a driver issue
[17:00] <goahead> i will disassemble all usb hubs and try at all
[17:01] <goahead> come back later than you all
[17:01] <goahead> thank you all
[18:53] <VimVim> Hi all
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> welcome VimVim
[18:55] <VimVim> thx (≧◡≦)
[18:55] <VimVim> So uh.... I'm having some problems with authbind . I'm running my aiohttp server with it and it's not working properly?
[18:56] <VimVim> (webserver)
[18:56] <VimVim> my command is "sudo authbing python3 host.py"
[18:56] <VimVim> *authbind
[18:56] <VimVim> I made a test. Every time the homepage is visited it tries to touch (command) a file in the root directory
[18:56] <VimVim> and it's works, nothing stops it.
[19:00] <sumyunguy> Hey guys
[19:00] <sumyunguy> Is there a way to use FDE with touch screen to enter password?
[19:02] <sarnold> excellent question
[19:17] <alzgh> I'm on an Ubuntu focal. I ran a vpn-cli that messed up my network. It was my dns. I configured it using resolvectl and it works now. But on restart it goes back to the broken state of the vpn-cli. Where can I look for what the vpn tool did?
[19:24] <sarnold> alzgh: maybe it added a systemd service file -- systemctl list-units  -- maybe it used a sysvinit script, ls /etc/init.d/ -- maybe it modified networkmanager configs, nmcli c -- or nm-applet ..
[19:24] <alzgh> thanks sarnold going to check them
[19:28] <alzgh> sarnold is `nm-applet` specific to Gnome? Or let's say, can it be that it isn't active/available in KDE Plasma?
[19:28] <sarnold> alzgh: plasma probably has its own nm interface
[19:29] <alzgh> It's probably this, bc this vpn-cli works on Gnome but not on KDE Plasma.
[19:32] <shinobi> Is there a tool that will analyze the logs and tell me why my system keeps crashing?
[19:32] <sarnold> nothing that I know of
[19:33] <sarnold> every few years a team of enthusiastic students who just learned machine learning think they'll do it and announce a project but no one ever hears from them again
[19:33] <VimVim> Hi uh.... so instead of authbind I can also redirect lower port to higher one, but that doesn't seem to work either
[19:34] <VimVim> "sudo iptables -t nat -F" doesn't return anything
[19:35] <sarnold> VimVim: what output would you expect from deleting all your rules?
[19:35] <sarnold> VimVim: does -L show nothing now?
[19:36] <VimVim> oh whoops
[19:36] <VimVim> Thanks, let me try
[19:36] <sarnold> VimVim: it's pretty common for unix utilities to only print output when something *fails* : rm: cannot remove '/tmp/foo': No such file or directory
[19:37] <sarnold> but when they work, they don't say much:
[19:37] <sarnold> ⏚ [sarnold:~] 1 $ touch /tmp/foo ; rm /tmp/foo
[19:37] <sarnold> ⏚ [sarnold:~] $
[19:41] <VimVim> thank you sarnold. I see now that I was using flush instead of list
[19:41] <VimVim> I redirected 443 to a higher port that I listen to, and website works now!
[19:41] <VimVim> yay
[19:42] <VimVim> I still prefer the idea authbind but oh well
[19:47] <sarnold> VimVim: depending upon what you're doing, systemd's socket activation might work for you
[19:48] <sarnold> VimVim: this looks like it's decent enough .. https://www.linux.com/training-tutorials/end-road-systemds-socket-units/ the official docs are pretty thick and not very educational, heh
[19:49] <VimVim> oh, maybe! I'm already using systemd
[19:49] <VimVim> I'll take a look. Thanks!
[20:07] <shinobi> The nvidia 470 driver shows tested in ubuntu 20.04, but on the NVidia website it shows beta. What's the deal with that?
[20:08] <ash_worksi> is there an easy way to check if I am running inside `script` ?
[20:08] <ash_worksi> (also, please correct my phrasing)
[20:09] <ash_worksi> like, the `script` command, as in, prints everything you type to a file
[20:10] <shinobi> I see 470.57.02 is the prod release for my card
[20:27] <jabberwock> tomreyn: Multiple displays work fine in a fresh kubuntu 21.04 :)
[20:27] <jabberwock> Eventually I'll get the egpu working but I want to make backups at milestones like this
[20:38] <Guest2864> how traceable are using tor browser?
[20:50] <tripp4h> hi, i'm having a problem with ubuntu 21.04, in some audio applications the sounds don't work, applications like milkytracker or eightbitbubsy's fast tracker ii clone. also if i try the sound test in settings/sound/output/output device/test it doesn't give sound output.
[20:56] <jabberwock> Guest1675: how malicious is your behavior?
[20:56] <jabberwock> that determines the need or want to trace you :P
[21:01] <sarnold> tripp4h: try running pavucontrol, quite often audio issues can be fixed once you've got that open
[21:06] <tripp4h> sarnold: i tried pavucontrol, it doesn't detect milkytacker even i try to play a tracker module with it.
[21:11] <sarnold> tripp4h: dang. maybe it doesn't work with pulseaudio :( maybe amixer? or amix? I wonder if you'll need to stop pulseaudio to use it
[21:12] <tripp4h> sarnold: i also tried 'sudo alsa force-reload' but that didn't make an effect either.
[23:57] <LilUFO> anyone experience some issues with the gnome appindicator extension when using hp-systray
[23:57] <LilUFO> it tends to just hang on me
[23:57] <LilUFO> this might be because it doesn't support tooltips?


[01:57] <krowv> Hi, I’m trying to port Ubuntu phone to a Galaxy S4.  For the vendor proprietary drivers, do I need to get a specific version of those drivers to work with 4.4.2?
[11:03] <MatthewAllen> Hi all, I'm trying to boot Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 5 as per https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/porting-new-device/ and am running into some issues, could anyone help?
[11:04] <MatthewAllen> When trying to flash with 'rootstock' I get this error : mount: mounting /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/cache on /cache failed: Invalid argument
[11:14] <popey> MatthewAllen: maybe try in #ubports where the community porters hang out
[11:15] <MatthewAllen> popey, Thankyou - will go ask there
[11:17] <popey> np
[12:25] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[17:02] <peat-psuwit> Anyone have an idea to diagnose freeze at phone unlock (phone won't turn on after sleep)? LG L90 Dual. (Work-in-progress port)


[00:17] <rick_h__> cmaloney: yea
[00:19] <rick_h__>  family get out of the house time and took one of the boy's local classmates
[00:59] <cmaloney> cool deal
[01:58] <cmaloney> We'll be starting in a few minutes
[02:03] <cmaloney> Evening
[02:03] <cmaloney> Anyone out there?
[02:07] <Zimdale> Starting what?
[02:08] <cmaloney> The monthly meeting
[02:08] <cmaloney> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-mi/1034/detail/
[02:08] <cmaloney> First order of business: Penguicon release party approaches
[02:08] <cmaloney> not sure what the day is (will know more in April)
[02:09] <cmaloney> but you'll want to get your tickets and room now
[02:12] <hpucks> I have my tickets and room.
[02:12] <cmaloney> Coolness
[02:13] <cmaloney> I ordered some ribbons for the event
[02:13] <cmaloney> so the first 50 folks will get a ribbon
[02:13] <hpucks> You can't ply me with ribbons cmaloney (well, maybe you can).  You know what I really want.
[02:14] <cmaloney> I ordered a conference pack.  They put tons into making it managable with powershell in the 2010 timeframe.
[21:08] <jrwren> maybe they'll port PS to Linux. i guess with .net core being open source and on linux that might be pretty easy for them now.
[21:08] <greg-g> powershell on linux.....
[21:09] <cmaloney> Well, considering SQLServer is Sybase underneath perhaps that's what got ported
[21:09] <jrwren> its not sybase underneath.
[21:10] <cmaloney> Then why can I run sqsh with it? :)
[21:10] <jrwren> saying SQL Server is sybase under neath is like saying Linux is Minix underneath.
[21:10] <jrwren> same wire protocol.
[21:10] <jrwren> just like you can run bash on minux or linux :p
[21:11] <cmaloney> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_SQL_Server#Genesis
[21:11] <jcastro> What an odd day
[21:11] <jcastro> it's like 60 degrees outside
[21:11] <jcastro> and mssql is here
[21:12] <cmaloney> Probably the blow-back from hell freezing over
[21:12] <cmaloney> warm air has to travel somewhere.
[21:12] <jrwren> yes, I know it forked from them buying Sybase. I stand by my Minux analogy.
[21:15] <cmaloney> It'd be more apropos if you did a BSD analogy since I think that had AT&T UNIX code in it for a while.
[21:15] <cmaloney> AFAIK Linux has no Minix code in it.
[21:21] <jrwren> yes, I wanted to make the OSX and BSD analogy too.
[21:21] <jrwren> cuz "OSX is just BSD" is the common phrase, which is totally wrong.


[02:03] <ryanpcmcquen> Hello!
[02:04] <ryanpcmcquen> Does 19.04 install without swap?
[02:12] <tsimonq2> Yes.
[02:21] <ryanpcmcquen> Awesome!
[02:21] <ryanpcmcquen> That's a welcome change.
[02:21] <ryanpcmcquen> Was that in the release notes?
[02:21] <ryanpcmcquen> Are any other *buntus doing that?
[02:31] <kc2bez> It wasn't in the release notes but we didn't have swap in 18.10 either.
[02:33] <kc2bez> I think all the other flavors have swap.
[03:13] <ryanpcmcquen> Thank you kc2bez.
[11:45] <lubuntu> hello
[11:46] <Joz41> hello
[11:47] <Joz41> Lubuntu 19.04 is running on my laptop ASUS T101HA
 Thanks for downloading. Please report any bugs you find. Joz41
 Why...would you remove swap?
[21:06] <Jonopoly> hi everyone
[21:06] <Jonopoly> im using an old laptop (old old)
[21:06] <Jonopoly> so moving from xubuntu to lubuntu
[21:16] <ubuntu> hey
[21:16] <ubuntu> whast up
[21:16] <MX3301> hi
[21:16] <MX3301> :)
[21:16] <MX3301> someone loves lbuntu ?
[21:17] <MX3301> i love the new look
[21:17] <MX3301> feels neat, nice performance
[21:17] <MX3301> going to add backbox repo to it and use it as daily pentest distro :P
[21:53] <fishcooker> i've modified the ~/.config/openbox/lxqt-rc.xml.... how to reload the lxqt to the latest config i made?
[21:54] <kc2bez> If you log out and log back in it should use the new config.
[21:59] <fishcooker> thanks kc2bez http://vpaste.net/GK5an ... i've just realized that $ openbox-lubuntu --restart
[21:59] <fishcooker> without logout needed
[21:59] <fishcooker> cool
[21:59] <fishcooker> yes it works
[22:01] <kc2bez> fishcooker: glad you got it working. Thanks for letting me know.
[22:01] <fishcooker> no worries
[22:01] <fishcooker> which lubuntu version do you use kc2bez?
[22:02] <kc2bez> I use 19.04 mostly.
[22:17] <fishcooker> i will... still im on old lxqt 0.x


[22:53] <qwebirc47676> I've tried everything I can to get MythTV to see the 2nd internal drive and still nothing.  I've don't  what to put in chown.
[23:09] <qwebirc47676> Help?
[23:11] <qwebirc47676> Can anybody help with additional storage question?