[12:37] <ubuntu> http://pastebin.ca/700094 i dont know how to edit it
[12:38] <ubuntu> no i dont tried it (how can i install it on the live)
[12:38] <ubuntu> right now i am on the live dvd
[12:39] <draik> ubuntu: Have you tried SGD?
[12:39] <ubuntu> yes
[12:39] <draik> If you have to fix GRUB, it's best
[12:39] <draik> Any luck?
[12:39] <ubuntu> no :(
[12:40] <BluesKaj> sayers, i grew up with the old north american system , but got used to the metric system (labtech guy)and then Canada switched to the metric system about 30 yrs ago so we older ppl alre kinda used to converting back and forth
[12:40] <emello> hi chris
[12:40] <WaltzingAlong> honest joe
[12:41] <WaltzingAlong> !grub | ubuntu
[12:41] <ubotu> ubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:42] <ubuntu> i didnt install windows after kubuntu (it was running perfekt) i made a update and the entrys disappeared
[12:42] <mefisto__> ubuntu: mount your linux partition and see if there's a backup of menu.lst
[12:43] <N6REJ> evening all
[12:43] <N6REJ> I want to resize a couple of my partitions and create a new ntfs partition from the freed space.  How do I do this/
[12:43] <ubuntu> no ther is only one file of menu.lst
[12:44] <coreymon77> N6REJ: not meaning to be rude or anything, but, why ntfs?
[12:45] <N6REJ> coreymon77: np, I understand.... Cause my xp machine has a tiny drive right now and I can't afford to get a new one just yet, so I'm planning on creating a ntfs partition on my server and using it as a "d" drive for xp.
[12:46] <coreymon77> N6REJ: why not just make a fat32 drive
[12:46] <coreymon77> N6REJ: thats easier, and that way, both oses can access it
[12:46] <LM1> hey guys...  I tried uninstalling it completely and reinstalling it
[12:46] <N6REJ> coreymon77: well I could but ntfs is more stable then fat32
[12:46] <LM1> and it still looks the same
[12:47] <N6REJ> coreymon77: hmmmmm.... thats a point.
[12:47] <LM1> where are the gui configuration files kept for k3b so I can delete them?   maybe then it would go back to normal?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> LM1, screwed up in what manner
[12:47] <BluesKaj> ?
[12:47] <N6REJ> coreymon77: how would I resize and create the fat32?
[12:47] <LM1> BluesKaj,  Somehow I removed all the menu's from the gui...  I don't know how
[12:47] <ScorpKing> what compression format is kde themes? .kth files. i wan't to extract a theme.
[12:47] <coreymon77> N6REJ: qtparted
[12:48] <coreymon77> N6REJ: first thing you gotta do is back up your stuff
[12:48] <N6REJ> coreymon77: I couldn't get it to do it.  I might be using it wrong... yeah, I'm getting ready to do that right now.
[12:48] <LM1> I don't know which folder k3b stores its gui config files in
[12:48] <coreymon77> N6REJ: as good as these programs are
[12:48] <coreymon77> N6REJ: they do mess up every now and then
[12:48] <ubuntu> is ther no way to get my entrys to boot kubuntu back
[12:48] <N6REJ> coreymon77: cc, I'm going to burn to dvd then I'll be ready.
[12:49] <Biovore> oO
[12:49] <hasan> how cna i list users in a system ?
[12:49] <hasan> using konsole ?
[12:49] <lnx_> i need a program ( something like clipboard ) that i can only paste text to it only to print it without saving it there is something like this ?
[12:49] <Biovore> cat /etc/passwd
[12:49] <Biovore> ^ all the users on the system
[12:49] <hasan> is there not any other way to do it ?
[12:49] <BluesKaj> LM1 do a konq locate
[12:50] <hasan> just to list users one after another maybe seperated by :  ??
[12:50] <ScorpKing> LM1: .kde/share/apps/k3b
[12:50] <mefisto__> ubuntu: try sudo update-grub
[12:50] <LM1> ScorpKing, Thanks!  I will delete that and see if k3b goes back to normal
[12:51] <ScorpKing> np, it should.
[12:51] <N6REJ> coreymon77: this is when I could use firewire or a gigabit nic on both ends :(
[12:52] <jcs7778> Does anyone know about a good command line music player?
[12:52] <ScorpKing> LM1: to find directories like that is easy. run locate k3b | grep yourusername
[12:52] <coreymon77> N6REJ: lol
[12:52] <LM1> ok awesome
[12:52] <LM1> thx
[12:52] <ubuntu> No GRUB directory found (but ther is one)
[12:52] <N6REJ> coreymon77: do you know of a program that will receive email for a specific address and then auto print everything it gets?
[12:53] <ScorpKing> does anyone know how to auto detect the compression format of a file?
[12:53] <coreymon77> N6REJ: nope
[12:54] <N6REJ> coreymon77: me neither.  I could sure use one though.
[12:54] <coreymon77> N6REJ: google is your friend
[12:54] <trpr> ScorpKing: might try the file command. dunno
[12:54] <N6REJ> coreymon77: cc
[12:56] <ubuntu> @mefisto ther are some files missing in boot ther is only memtest 86 but no vmlinuz-2.6.20-15-generic
[12:56] <ScorpKing> trpr: found it, thanks. gzip
[12:56] <LM1> :C
[12:57] <LM1> I tried deleting that but it seems the gui is still screwed up
[12:57] <MinceR> where should i look for ubuntu-specific patches to kde sources?
[12:57] <trpr> ScorpKing: np. was just testing it myself on a jar file. as i thought; zipped :)
[12:57] <LM1> is there a way to force synaptic to complete remove everything even the configuration files
[12:57] <LM1> of a program
[12:57] <ScorpKing> LM1: use the purge option
[12:58] <LM1> kk thanks
[12:58] <ScorpKing> LM1: not sure for synaptic, :) but run sudo aptitude purge k3b
[12:58] <ubuntu> thats my boot entry http://pastebin.ca/700128
[12:59] <BluesKaj> ScorpKing, synaptic will try to remove kubuntu-desktop if he does that
[12:59] <ScorpKing> huh?
[12:59] <ScorpKing> LM1: stop!
[12:59] <ScorpKing> lol
[12:59] <LM1> ?
[12:59] <ScorpKing> BluesKaj: why?
[01:00] <BluesKaj> any default kde apps
[01:00] <ScorpKing> :( that suck
[01:00] <BluesKaj> dunno , but ti happened to me
[01:00] <BluesKaj> it
[01:00] <ubuntu> how can i get back the right kernel
[01:00] <LM1> im using gnome and only k3b and armarok in kde
[01:00] <ScorpKing> LM1: seems like you can't do that.
[01:00] <LM1> hehe allready did
[01:00] <LM1> :D
[01:00] <ScorpKing> :D
[01:01] <LM1> nooooo....
[01:01] <BluesKaj> ok. that's fine then , no kubuntu-desktop is installed
[01:01] <LM1> the purge didn't work
[01:01] <LM1> :C
[01:01] <LM1> why does god hate me
[01:01] <LM1> LOL
[01:01] <mefisto__> ubuntu: there's something seriously wrong with your installation. there should be more than memtest86 in /boot
[01:01] <MinceR> found it! it's hardcoded into kmilo by the ubuntu patch >:(
[01:01] <ScorpKing> LM1: looks like there is something else wrong.
[01:02] <MinceR> this is really, really ugly.
[01:02] <LM1> well it was fine... until I let my cousin try to burn a cd with it
[01:02] <ubuntu> lol
[01:02] <LM1> he disabled all the menus
[01:02] <ubuntu> how can i get back the other files in boot
[01:02] <LM1> so I figured removing it and reinstalling it would work
[01:02] <BluesKaj> well, LM1 if you want to uninstall kubuntu-desktop , then reinstall it , that might work
[01:02] <ubuntu> i can make only a memtest xD
[01:02] <LM1> I know it has to be a gui config file somehwere
[01:03] <BluesKaj> can you open K3b to configure it at all
[01:03] <BluesKaj> ?
[01:03] <LM1> BluesKaj, its not currently installed... should I install it?
[01:03] <mefisto__> ubuntu: install again?
[01:03] <NickPresta> I'm installing Kubuntu on a friend's laptop. He has the nVidia 7300 Go. Would that be nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new?
[01:04] <LM1> BluesKaj, yes I can still burn cd's with it, but all the menus are gone at the top
[01:04] <ubuntu> how can they disappear??? thats impossible
[01:04] <ubuntu> i made only a normal update thats all
[01:04] <MinceR> at least i can override it.
[01:05] <LM1> ill take a screenshot if you don't believe me
[01:05] <LM1> :D
[01:05] <WaltzingAlong> NickPresta: actually nvidia-glx is provided by either nvidia-glx-new or nvidia-glx-legacy
[01:05] <BluesKaj> LM1, can you open configure window behavior?
[01:05] <LM1> i can try... is there a command for it
[01:06] <NickPresta> WaltzingAlong, ah okay. Thanks :)
[01:06] <WaltzingAlong> NickPresta: and nvidia-glx-legacy is for TNT, TNT2, or older GeForce cards/chipsets
[01:06] <BluesKaj> right click on the bar at the top of k3b
[01:06] <N6REJ> coreymon77: I'll be back after I get this dvd burned.  I'm having some problems getting it done.
[01:07] <cody> how do i install sound drivers?
[01:07] <WaltzingAlong> NickPresta: so in all likelihood you should just install nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new
[01:07] <ubuntu> is ther not a other way, dont want to install it again
[01:07] <NickPresta> WaltzingAlong, right. Thanks. It's been a while since I've had to do this.
[01:07] <ubuntu> :(
[01:07] <BluesKaj> LM1 , try ctrl + M with k3b open
[01:07] <Code-E> How do I install my sound drivers?
[01:08] <LM1> woot
[01:08] <WaltzingAlong> Code-E: you ask once then wait for an answer while searching for an answer elsewhere; how do you know the drivers for your audio device are not already installed and functioning?
[01:09] <LM1> I got somethin
[01:09] <LM1> :D
[01:09] <LM1> lemme play around thanks so much
[01:09] <BluesKaj> LM1 , cttl + M
[01:09] <BluesKaj> ctrl +M
[01:10] <LM1> w00t
[01:10] <LM1> BluesKaj, Thanks so much that fixed it
[01:10] <LM1> I am a retard sorry
[01:11] <LM1> :D
[01:11] <BluesKaj> I just remembered , that's the command one uses in all kde apps to remove or recall the menu
[01:12] <BluesKaj> or rather hide and unhide
[01:13] <LM1> its weird it survived a purge and uninstall and reinstall
[01:14] <Lega> Anyone use ePSXe?
[01:15] <WaltzingAlong> LM1: purge removes the installed program and its config files but not your personalized conf files for it
[01:16] <LM1> ahh...
[01:16] <Lega> Hmm... how do I figure out the names of external usb devices (in this case, two external harddrives)?
[01:16] <LM1> thanks guys you rule!
[01:16] <LM1> peace out
[01:16] <BluesKaj> LM1 , you didn't remove kubuntu-desktop
[01:17] <BluesKaj> WaltzingAlong, he's agnome user who like k3b and a couple of other kde apps
[01:18] <BluesKaj> likes
[01:18] <WaltzingAlong> BluesKaj: alright
[01:21] <mefisto__> ubuntu: I have no idea if it will work, but you could try copying the missing files from the livecd session to your hd, then sudo update-grub
[01:24] <sea4ever`> What command lists all open ports?
[01:24] <slackern> netstat -an
[01:25] <sea4ever`> K
[01:25] <sea4ever`> thanks
[01:28] <Loekken> anyone who knows about wine and troubles?:)
[01:28] <MinceR> drinking wine causes troubles
[01:29] <Loekken> What?:P
[01:30] <Minataku> Dr_willis: You there?
[01:32] <lnx_> in ubuntu the default deb installer is GDebi , what is the name of the installer in kubuntu ?
[01:33] <BluesKaj> adept
[01:33] <Minataku> Hm
[01:33] <BluesKaj> hehe
[01:33] <mefisto__> I think GDebi is now installed with kubuntu
[01:33] <Code-E> is there an app in kubuntu to test sound ?
[01:34] <BluesKaj> Code-E, system settinings /soundsystem/test sound
[01:35] <lnx_> mefisto__ , no there is something else that have this name in the right click menu "kubuntu package manager" what is the name ?
[01:35] <Code-E> oh
[01:35] <BluesKaj> Code-E, test sound tab at the bottom of the sound system page
[01:35] <Code-E> how do i install my sound drivers
[01:35] <Code-E> they are not workig
[01:35] <Code-E> working
[01:35] <Code-E> =/
[01:36] <BluesKaj> Code-E, k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply
[01:37] <lnx_> someone ?
[01:37] <BluesKaj> lnx_, adept
[01:38] <BluesKaj> !adept | lnx_
[01:38] <ubotu> lnx_: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[01:38] <Code-E> Blueskaj, i dont see the sound device in the list
[01:39] <lnx_> BluesKaj ,ok so why i have no "kubuntu package manager" in right click on deb files ?ithinks is something else i think i talk about installing deb files that i have downloaded from other site and not from adept
[01:41] <BluesKaj> !deb
[01:41] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[01:41] <mefisto__> lnx_: I'm pretty sure that it got replaced in kubuntu with GDebi
[01:41] <bigleon> Good evening everyone
[01:41] <lnx_> mefisto__ , so what i can do ?
[01:42] <mefisto__> lnx_: just double-click. open it!
[01:42] <BluesKaj> lnx do you have kde installed?
[01:42] <lnx_> BluesKaj , yes im kubuntu user
[01:43] <lnx_> when i right click on it i get "action" and then GDebi or ark
[01:43] <lostkey> wie bekomm ich lese recht auf ntfs?
[01:43] <Code-E> how can i install my sound driver its not in the list but its a realtek sound device o.O
[01:43] <BluesKaj> use Gdebi
[01:43] <kgx> is there any website that lists stuff like sic codes and area codes in a format that makes it easy to copy/paste into a php/javascript array?
[01:44] <MinceR> bye
[01:44] <lostkey> how to could i get readrigths for ntfs
[01:44] <NickPresta> kgx, that is what sed/awk/regexp is for ;)
[01:44] <BluesKaj> Code-E, that list doesn't list sound drivers, only the devices available to work with your sound drivers
[01:45] <BluesKaj> in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'
[01:45] <Code-E> I dont see the device
[01:45] <kgx> NickPresta: yeah that's what resorting to right now :)
[01:45] <Minataku> You know what's cool? NetBSD. X3
[01:45] <kgx> NickPresta: the excel file i have is in quite an ugly format though
[01:45] <Minataku> Sorry, I'm bored.
[01:45] <lnx_> BluesKaj , 1 ) i dont want to use it , 2 ) i dont know how to uninstall deb with GDebi
[01:46] <wers> how do I prevent beagle from starting automatically?
[01:46] <wers> is there anything that I can do with my ~/.kde/Autostart/ ?
[01:46] <BluesKaj> lnx_, use adept to uninstall it
[01:46] <Code-E> my sound device is not in the list, the only thing in there is open sound system and linux something and auto detect, and none work
[01:47] <BluesKaj> Code-E, read above please !
[01:48] <BluesKaj> Code-E, your sound drivers are probably installed fine , you just need to setup ALSA and kmix
[01:49] <Code-E> ok
[01:49] <Code-E> Line was muted
[01:49] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:49] <Code-E> I unmuted it, how do i exit this, just ctrl c?
[01:49] <Dr_willis> q for quit
[01:50] <Code-E> I am still hearing nothing when i press Test Sound though
[01:50] <lnx_> BluesKaj , ok i find the pakage in adpet so i can say that the problem is solved , but still you dont the name of the kubuntu deb manager ?
[01:51] <Dr_willis> start a mp3 player program from the terminal, see if it plays anything.
[01:51] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Long time no see!
[01:51] <Code-E> lol, i have no mp3s downloaded
[01:51] <Minataku> Where are my Amigas? XD
[01:51] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  My company FINIALLY LEFT!
[01:51] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:51] <Minataku> COOL! :D
[01:51] <Dr_willis> THey are in the garrage.  same as always. Been doing house cleaning all week.
[01:51] <Minataku> Ah
[01:52] <Dr_willis> Got me a Des Gateway machine the other day  for $500 on sale. Been playing with it. heh
[01:52] <Minataku> Well, don't stress over them, but I would like them still X3
[01:52] <Dr_willis> They aint going anywhere else. ;)
[01:52] <Minataku> Cool. :3
[01:52] <Minataku> Just try not to take TOO long, if you can XD
[01:52] <Dr_willis> been taking books to the used bookstore. and trash to the dump.. and just today redid the Doggy Dore.
[01:52] <Dr_willis> Door.
[01:52] <Dr_willis> Had the week off.
[01:53] <Minataku> I haven't done too much
[01:53] <Minataku> Got a busted Tecra 8000
[01:53] <Minataku> Stripped it to the core, found a blown fuse
[01:53] <Dr_willis> I got a few dozen LB of the old abacus amiga books also if you want them.
[01:53] <Code-E> "All Audio Drivers failed to initialize"
[01:53] <Code-E> what does that mean?
[01:53] <Minataku> Ordered free replacements through Littelfuse's sample program
[01:53] <Minataku> Got some ultra-tiny SMT 8A fuses
[01:53] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  gotta love that.
[01:53] <Minataku> Dr_willis: You know I do :D
[01:54] <Code-E> What does that mean, "All Audio Drivers failed to initiliaze!"
[01:54] <Code-E> ?
[01:54] <Dr_willis> Code-E,  sounds like your sound card is very UNsupported.. what kind is it anyway?
[01:54] <Code-E> Realtek
[01:55] <Code-E> It's worked with Ubuntu and other linux distros
[01:55] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. thats.. odd..
[01:55] <Dr_willis> good sign.. at least.
[01:55] <Minataku> I installed NetBSD onto my P1MMX/M-166 lappy
[01:55] <Minataku> Very nice and very clean
[01:55] <Dr_willis> If it worked with ubuntu. it should work with kubuntu. since the core is the same.
[01:55] <Dr_willis> unless its a kde/arts/whatever issue.
[01:55] <Minataku> I even compiled a custom kernel for it
[01:55] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  you are just a leet haxor
[01:56] <Minataku> Worked FIRST TIME (not counting the build issues that I ran into changing the config without flushing the directory)
[01:56] <Lega> Hmm... I am a linux newb.  And every device was there, too. :D
[01:56] <Dr_willis> normally you 'chown' a directory to let a user own them.
[01:56] <Lega> ePSXe folder.
[01:57] <Lega> specifically, /usr/local/games/ePSXe/
[01:57] <Dr_willis> Lega,  for that emulator i think the user could have stuff in their own homedir as well check the epsxe docs.
[01:57] <Minataku> Users shouldn't have permissions over anything outside ~ (with very few exceptions)
[01:57] <Dr_willis> anything they add/tweak/change can go in their home dir. But its been ages since i used that Emu.
[01:57] <BluesKaj> Minataku, so how do you like BSD ?
[01:57] <Minataku> Like my system has my external partitions mounted under /ext
[01:58] <Lega> Well, the problem I'm having is the configuration settings aren't saving since I don't have write permission to the folder.
[01:58] <Minataku> So naturally my user has control over them
[01:58] <Minataku> BluesKaj: NetBSD is great
[01:58] <Minataku> But then I've always used various OSes
[01:58] <Dr_willis> Lega,  Hmm.. a program like that shouldent be tryign to save its CONFIG settings to a system wide dir in any case.
[01:58] <Minataku> I've even got a machine running SunOS 4.1.4
[01:58] <Dr_willis> sounds like a big bug in the program to me.
[01:58] <winbond> is there an app that can show ram timings??
[01:58] <BluesKaj> been mulling over setting up apartiton for BSD
[01:58] <Lega> All it is is a .cfg text file. :\
[01:59] <Minataku> NetBSD is nice and small and clean
[01:59] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, which flavour of BSD?
[01:59] <Minataku> Very slick
[01:59] <Dr_willis> Lega,  check its docs. proberly some dir/file you can make in th eusers home dir - it can/will save to if it exists
[01:59] <Lega> Kk, thanks. :D
[01:59] <BluesKaj> freebsd NickPresta
[01:59] <Minataku> It's also great for low-resource and exotic machines
[01:59] <Dr_willis> Lega,  or just chmode the config file :)
[01:59] <Lega> Ja.
[01:59] <Minataku> FreeBSD is large and clunky
[01:59] <Minataku> Plus the support for it around here leaves VERY MUCH to be desired
[02:00] <Dr_willis> :
[02:00] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:00] <Dr_willis> Like i need more toys.. got a Wii Last month. a new PC this month.
[02:00] <BluesKaj> oh yeah, Minataku netbsd is the one /
[02:00] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Well, that's why you're sending me some of your old toys
[02:00] <Minataku> lol
[02:00] <BluesKaj> ?
[02:00] <Dr_willis> Trying to.:)
[02:01] <Minataku> blackflag: NetBSD is very nice, and well supported here
[02:01] <Dr_willis> i really dident need the4 Wii. but they had one left.. and i figured i better grab it while i found one.
[02:01] <Minataku> Er, Black5un
[02:01] <Minataku> Damnit >.<
[02:01] <Minataku> Sorry, Black5un and blackflag
[02:01] <Minataku> >.<
[02:01] <Minataku> BluesKaj: As for OpenBSD, don't bother
[02:02] <BluesKaj> Minataku, there's a live bsd cd ...somewhere around here ...
[02:02] <Minataku> I've got NetBSD running on a number of machines
[02:02] <Minataku> An i386 and a PMAX
[02:03] <Minataku> My DEC Personal DECstation 5000/33 :3
[02:03] <Biovore> alpha?
[02:03] <Minataku> Nope
[02:03] <Minataku> MIPS
[02:03] <Biovore> r1000?
[02:03] <Minataku> R3000
[02:03] <Biovore> ah
[02:03] <Minataku> Well, R3000 + R3010
[02:03] <BluesKaj> freesbie - 2.0 live cd
[02:03] <Minataku> BluesKaj: That's FreeBSD
[02:03] <BluesKaj> yeah
[02:04] <Minataku> NetBSD has a LiveCD as well
[02:04] <Minataku> I need to get around to installing IRIX on my Indigo2
[02:04] <Minataku> That one's an R4400SC + R4010
[02:04] <BluesKaj> what's netbsd ...is that a netinstall with a small footprint live cd?
[02:04] <Minataku> GU1-EXTREME graphics :D
[02:04] <Minataku> BluesKaj: www.netbsd.org
[02:05] <Minataku> The graphics card in the I2 is insane, it's three boards high
[02:05] <Minataku> I have a prototype POWER Indigo2 (R8000), but I'm trading that off for a number of other machines
[02:06] <Minataku> An old Alpha, an old HPPA and an old PReP
[02:06] <Minataku> Plus two UltraSPARC-II modules for my Ultra 2
[02:06] <Minataku> Boost that really nice :D
[02:07] <Minataku> Probably put FreeBSD on the Ultra 2, since NetBSD doesn't have SMP on SPARC64
[02:07] <lucky|20> i have a prototype heinz-57 made from a variety of charity shop parts...
[02:07] <Minataku> Biovore: The R1000 was never a production chip, was it?
[02:07] <Minataku> I believe the earliest was R2000
[02:08] <Minataku> lucky|20: Jealousy doesn't give you the right to be a jerk :P
[02:08] <Biovore> Minataku: well not in PC workstations
[02:08] <Minataku> No PCs have ever had a MIPS
[02:08] <Biovore> r1000 is old as dirt
[02:09] <lucky|20> i wasnt remotely jellous
[02:09] <Minataku> And PCs aren't workstations, per se
[02:09] <Minataku> These are real Unix workstations
[02:09] <Biovore> its kinda intressting because its starting to make a comback as an embedded processor these days
[02:09] <Minataku> Expensive and better than PCs in every way
[02:09] <Biovore> rgr. sgi
[02:09] <Minataku> lucky|20: Sorry, just messing with you
[02:10] <not_remotely_jel> its ok this is a high tone heinze-57...
[02:10] <draik> How do I get a list of my installed packages so that I can take it to my friend's computer and have them all installed
[02:10] <draik> ?
[02:11] <Biovore> draik: dpkg -l
[02:11] <Dr_willis> draik,  i saw a script that sort of made a list, and a nother one that then read the list and isntalled them all. :)
[02:11] <draik> I recall an app that did all of that, Dr_willis
[02:12] <BluesKaj> wow Minataku, the torrent conn to bsd is fast , over 500KBs
[02:12] <Dr_willis> cat installedpackages
[02:12] <Dr_willis> #!/bin/bash
[02:12] <Dr_willis> sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep '[[:space:] ] install$' | awk '{print $1}' > package_list
[02:12] <Dr_willis> gives you a nice package list... THEN....
[02:12] <Dr_willis> cat importpackageslist
[02:12] <Dr_willis> cat package_list | xargs sudo apt-get install
[02:12] <Dr_willis> However..... be carefull.. ya can end up installing nvidia drivers on an ati box. and so forth
[02:12] <draik> No, we're both nVidia
[02:13] <draik> same drivers
[02:13] <Dr_willis> It also might save time if ya copied your /var/cache/apt (?) dir to a cd/dvd for him. save a lot of downloading.
[02:13] <Dr_willis> if on a local lan. setting up one box as an apt-cache sort of machine is handy also
[02:13] <Minataku> But the downloading gives them an excuse to sit around doing nothing
[02:14] <Minataku> lol
[02:14] <Dr_willis> well be sure to install a game or 2 first. :)
[02:18] <draik> Anyone had "region 7" and "region 8" error messages when installing Kubuntu?
[02:18] <Dr_willis> Thats a new one to me draik
[02:18] <draik> I've never heard of this, but my friend keeps getting this error on his laptop
[02:19] <Dr_willis> Only region things i can think of are the regions for dvd movies.
[02:19] <Doctor_Nick> might be a hard drive problem
[02:19] <Doctor_Nick> or possibly a memory problem
[02:19] <Doctor_Nick> did he run memtest86?
[02:19] <draik> yup
[02:20] <Doctor_Nick> is he able to boot to the live desktop
[02:20] <Doctor_Nick> oh
[02:20] <Doctor_Nick> did he verify the cd after he burned it
[02:21] <JimmyDee_> the ubuntu image sometimes pukes on burn thats true
[02:21] <draik> I verified it
[02:21] <draik> After the error messages, it finally loads
[02:21] <JimmyDee_> on the same machine youre trying to install on?
[02:24] <draik> Sorry, am on the phone with him
[02:25] <draik> He's trying to install it on his laptop
[02:25] <JimmyDee_> try verifying the  disk on the laptop first
[02:25] <JimmyDee_> using the check disk thing at the install screen
[02:26] <draik> It's the copy that I used to install Kubuntu 7.04 on my desktop
[02:26] <draik> Should be fine
[02:26] <draik> No scratches or anything
[02:26] <JimmyDee_> should be, but from drive to drive theres variance
[02:27] <Minataku> If it works and the errors don't seem to impact operation at all, ignore them.
[02:27] <JimmyDee_> word
[02:27] <Minataku> It's only something to be concerned about if it causes a negative impact on operation
[02:27] <draik> JimmyDee_: OO.o
[02:27] <Minataku> If it just pops up then loads and works fine, it's nothing of concern and can be safely ignored
[02:28] <JimmyDee_> if the screen dont go red, youre golden
[02:28] <Lega> Switching from Windows to Linux is like removing your leg, then replacing it with a nanotech, cybernetically enhanced leg with almost no knowledge of how to do so. >.<
[02:28] <JimmyDee_> and building the leg yourself
[02:28] <Lega> Exactly.
[02:28] <JimmyDee_> so nu?
[02:29] <Minataku> Yeah, but once you learn how to use the leg, you can totally kick the ass of every Windows user out there
[02:29] <Minataku> Pun half-intended
[02:29] <coreymon77> Lega: actually no, thats what it used to be
[02:29] <Minataku> lol
[02:29] <Lega> coremon77: Easier now?
[02:29] <Lega> Because I'm still having a hell of a time with it. :p
[02:29] <JimmyDee_> 4 lines of commands to a windowed operating system
[02:29] <coreymon77> Lega: i found that installing feisty was the easiest and fastest install of any os ive ver used
[02:29] <draik> I love nanotech extremities
[02:29] <JimmyDee_> sudo su root
[02:30] <JimmyDee_> apt-get install gnome gdm xorg
[02:30] <coreymon77> Lega: including windoze
[02:30] <JimmyDee_> so 2
[02:30] <Lega> Installing Feisty was easy, making it do what I want it to is the hard part.
[02:30] <draik> sudo apt-get auto-repair body
[02:30] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get me a beer
[02:30] <Lega> Is there an apt-get for installing ATI drivers?
[02:30] <Dr_willis> !ati
[02:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:30] <JimmyDee_> are you root?
[02:30] <coreymon77> Dr_willis: LOL
[02:30] <draik> I AM root
[02:31] <BluesKaj> Lega, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:31] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get me a root-beer
[02:32] <xp_killer> waaaazzzaaaa :)
[02:32] <JimmyDee_> Lega: google envy download
[02:32] <JimmyDee_> its groovy
[02:32] <BluesKaj> JimmyDee_, does envy work on feisty ?
[02:33] <JimmyDee_> yuppers just did it installing compiz
[02:33] <Lega> Oh man, JimmyDee_, that is groovy. :D
[02:33] <BluesKaj> yeah, but ati drivers are a different thing
[02:34] <JimmyDee_> no I have an ati xpress 200 in this box, and my windows be wobbly
[02:34] <JimmyDee_> meaning envy was dead on
[02:34] <Dr_willis> i got a x200m in my laptop ati.
[02:34] <Lega> That is exactly what I have- the ATI Xpress 200.
[02:34] <Dr_willis> the fglrx drivers work from the repos.. but had a few issues.
[02:34] <Lega> Then again, I'm running a laptop.
[02:34] <Dr_willis> like black screen on logging out.. :)
[02:35] <BluesKaj> wow, so do I , x200G
[02:35] <Dr_willis> so i boot to the console now, not KDM, and use startx
[02:35] <JimmyDee_> use gdm
[02:35] <Lega> Holy crap... I need 17 more packages to install Envy. O.o
[02:36] <Lega> And I don't like the sound of "fakeroot."
[02:36] <JimmyDee_> its a tool
[02:36] <Lega> It sounds devious. Sinister...
[02:36] <Lega> ... Like a shadow in the night.
[02:36] <JimmyDee_> it sure does sound nasty but it works well
[02:36] <JimmyDee_> apt-get -f install
[02:36] <JimmyDee_> errr sudo that
[02:36] <Lega> What does that do?
[02:37] <JimmyDee_> installs all your dependencies for envy after you try to install it
[02:37] <Dr_willis> fakeroot makes it safer. :)
[02:37] <Dr_willis> !info fakeroot
[02:37] <ubotu> fakeroot: Gives a fake root environment. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.10ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 97 kB, installed size 388 kB
[02:37] <Lega> Oh, heck.
[02:38] <JimmyDee_> its not heinous, honest
[02:38] <Lega> GDebi is downloading the extra packages for me.
[02:38] <Dr_willis> it fakes out programs/compiling into thinking they are being ran as root..  sort of a sand-boxing security thing - i recall
[02:38] <Lega> Way to go GDebi. :D
[02:38] <JimmyDee_> isnt that special?
[02:38] <Lega> Oh, yeah, the name just sounds odd, is all. ^^ Fakeroot.
[02:38] <Lega> Sounds like a very useful tool.
[02:39] <JimmyDee_> does everyone have their root account disabled?
[02:39] <Lega> ... No?
[02:39] <JimmyDee_> might wanna do that
[02:39] <Lega> Why would one do that? <<;;
[02:39] <JimmyDee_> use sudo for everything
[02:39] <Lega> I do use sudo for everything.
[02:39] <Dr_willis> thats the ubuntu security mentality . :)
[02:39] <kkathman> Its alot safer to do that actually
[02:40] <JimmyDee_> so some happy camper cant come along and john the root account
[02:40] <Dr_willis> when in doubt use useable securicty.. not the In your face/useless stuff that vista is trying to pull.
[02:40] <Lega> Well, how do I disable my root account, as it I am not sure if it is disabled or not?
[02:40] <kkathman> well not only that, when you type sudo   you are more focused on what you are doing...which cuts down errors
[02:40] <Dr_willis> Lega,  by default - direct logging in as root is disabled in kubuntu/ubuntu
[02:40] <Dr_willis> its not 'disabled' its 'not allowed to get logged into' :)
[02:40] <JimmyDee_> but not the console
[02:41] <Lega> Oh, well I can't log into it- I tried once.
[02:41] <kkathman> you can, but you have to make a few changes to do that
[02:41] <JimmyDee_> umm did you change the password to something you control?
[02:42] <Lega> I'm sorry- what now?
[02:42] <JimmyDee_> goto console and type sudo su root
[02:42] <JimmyDee_> then passwd
[02:42] <JimmyDee_> and enter a password of say 25 characters or so, a sentence if you will
[02:43] <JimmyDee_> THEN goto users and groups and disable the root account logon
[02:43] <Lega> My root pass is the same as my main user pass.
[02:43] <Lega> I should totally change that. >.<
[02:43] <JimmyDee_> bad idea
[02:43] <Lega> Yeah, I just realized that.
[02:44] <Lega> How do I change it?
[02:44] <JimmyDee_> a password like this_is_1_of_my_passwords works nicely
[02:44] <JimmyDee_> goto console
[02:44] <JimmyDee_> type sudo su root
[02:44] <Lega> I do.
[02:44] <JimmyDee_> enter your password
[02:44] <JimmyDee_> type passwd
[02:44] <Lega> OH.
[02:44] <Lega> Okay.
[02:44] <JimmyDee_> follow the prompt then
[02:44] <Lega> Sorry, missed that part. ^^
[02:45] <JimmyDee_> and yes, staying root is a bad thing too, use sudo
[02:46] <pillowpants> can mkv video files be burned to a dvd in linux?
[02:46] <Lega> Yeah.
[02:46] <pillowpants> like something i could play in my dvd player?
[02:46] <Lega> Wait, now it is not even ASKING me for a pass on sudo su.
[02:46] <JimmyDee_> it only asks once per console instance
[02:46] <Lega> I've opened multiple, different consoles.
[02:46] <JimmyDee_> itll ask 1 time per instance
[02:47] <Lega> Per instance of console, right?
[02:47] <JimmyDee_> yes
[02:47] <Lega> So if I open a new console window, it will ask again, yes?
[02:47] <JimmyDee_> should
[02:47] <Lega> Doesn't.
[02:47] <Lega> :E
[02:47] <JimmyDee_> aack
[02:47] <Lega> Fuck.
[02:47] <Lega> I mean... dagnabbit.
[02:47] <JimmyDee_> wait
[02:48] <Lega> Not good...
[02:49] <JimmyDee_> mine is asking at every instance
[02:49] <Lega> Mine definitely isn't.
[02:49] <JimmyDee_> and my password is not stock
[02:49] <Lega> At all.
[02:49] <JimmyDee_> log off log back on
[02:49] <Lega> Hai.
[02:49] <JimmyDee_> it may think youre still root
[02:49] <JimmyDee_> shrug
[02:49] <Dr_willis> you used drowssap  instead of  password    ?
[02:50] <JimmyDee_> they can chew my instructors at school, root password is to be controlled by local staff
[02:52] <Lega> Not good.
[02:52] <Lega> Not good at all.
[02:52] <Lega> It isn't asking me for a password on sudo su.
[02:52] <Dr_willis> why are you doing sudo su?
[02:52] <Dr_willis> try sudo -s :)
[02:52] <Lega> Not asking for a password with that, either.
[02:53] <JimmyDee_> after a logoff?
[02:53] <Dr_willis> its been haxored!
[02:53] <Lega> After a logoff.
[02:53] <Lega> D:
[02:53] <JimmyDee_> my microsoft mind screams reboot
[02:53] <JimmyDee_> my linux mind says you shouldnt have to
[02:53] <Lega> :[
[02:53] <Lega> Worth a try?
[02:53] <gridl0ck> don't reboot LeeJunFan
[02:54] <gridl0ck> Lega, sorry
[02:54] <Dr_willis> Format!
[02:54] <JimmyDee_> parted
[02:54] <JimmyDee_> lol
[02:54] <Lega> Noooooooooooooooooo.
[02:54] <Dr_willis> Format! fsisk! format again! then throw it in the trash!
[02:54] <Lega> I don't want to format.
[02:54] <Lega> No format.
[02:54] <JimmyDee_> he's yankin yer chain
[02:54] <Lega> I have so much setup... took me so long...
[02:54] <Dr_willis> 'windows lemmings sing this song... format.. format.. windows lemmings all day long.. formating away'
[02:55] <Dr_willis> 'gonna format all day, gonna reinstall all night....'
[02:55] <Lega> I wonder what is up, though? This is kind of nerv racking. :\
[02:55] <Lega> Not having a pass for sudo or anything, that is.
[02:55] <Dr_willis> 'then get a virus the next day... and throw it all away'
[02:55] <JimmyDee_> I have to admit its new to me
[02:55] <Dr_willis> id heard of some PAM messing up that could do that.
[02:56] <Lega> Well, I need to fix this.
[02:56] <Lega> Because this is bad.
[02:56] <Lega> Ideas?
[02:56] <JimmyDee_> reboot
[02:56] <JimmyDee_> itll fix it
[02:56] <Lega> I'll try it.
[02:56] <Lega> BRB.
[02:56] <JimmyDee_> should I change my nick and hide?
[02:58] <aguitel> how administrate energy in my lapto?
[02:58] <aguitel> how administrate energy in my laptop ?
[02:59] <Lega> Curiouser and curiouser...
[03:00] <Lega> Well, it now asks for a password.
[03:00] <JimmyDee_> its fixed I hope
[03:00] <Lega> But it just so happens to be the FIRST password I had for it- the same password as my main user account,
[03:01] <coreymon77> Lega: unless you have specifically changed it, your root password is the same as your user password
[03:01] <Lega> well, I did specifically change it.
[03:01] <Lega> With passwd.
[03:01] <JimmyDee_> and it didnt take?
[03:01] <Lega> Also, Soundserver crashes everytime I boot up Kubuntu- any idea why?
[03:01] <Lega> No, it didn't take.
[03:02] <JimmyDee_> arts or alsa?
[03:02] <Lega> artsd
[03:02] <Lega> signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
[03:02] <coreymon77> Lega: and whats the problem? forgot it?
[03:02] <Lega> What coremon77?
[03:02] <JimmyDee_> it was letting him sudo without a password
[03:02] <Lega> Right.
[03:02] <contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[03:03] <coreymon77> JimmyDee_: oh
[03:03] <Lega> After I had changed the password with passwd.
[03:03] <coreymon77> Lega: thats why i dont change it
[03:03] <coreymon77> Lega: im the only one who uses my computer anyways
[03:03] <Lega> Well, I'd like it to be different then my main user account.
[03:03] <Lega> For securitorial purposes.
[03:03] <Lega> :O
[03:03] <JimmyDee_> so when your box gets haxxored they get your admin password AND your root pw...good corey
[03:04] <coreymon77> JimmyDee_: ya, good luck with that
[03:04] <Dr_willis> thats why you rename root to be toor !
[03:04] <Dr_willis> no one will ever guess that
[03:04] <JimmyDee_> thats effective too
[03:04] <JimmyDee_> lol
[03:04] <coreymon77> besides
[03:04] <Dr_willis> Then you make the alias 'ls=logout'
[03:04] <coreymon77> most people dont change it \
[03:04] <Dr_willis> that way if they get in. . they get kicked out!
[03:05] <JimmyDee_> just us paranoids
[03:05] <Lega> Oh well, I'll just change my main user password.
[03:05] <infinity__> Hello
[03:05] <Lega> My root pass/main user pass is 25 characters long right now, anyway- I think I'm safe.
[03:05] <infinity__> Can anyone rescue me from a grub error 17 ?
[03:05] <infinity__> !grub
[03:05] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:06] <Dr_willis> i forget what error 17 even meand
[03:06] <JimmyDee_> its broke
[03:06] <JimmyDee_> at least it doesnt say call your system administrator
[03:07] <Lega> No, it more implies, "Here are yer tools, boy, now get ta fixin'."
[03:07] <NickPresta> Argh. Why won't Feisty install? *punches computer*
[03:07] <JimmyDee_> in the navy we had a code. code 771 in particular that meant....broken
[03:08] <Lega> Captain Jack is awesome.
[03:08] <JimmyDee_> other than the disk isnt in the machine, I cant come up with an answer to that nick
[03:08] <Lega> Envy. Is awesome. *rock out*
[03:09] <Dr_willis> Lega,  untill it breaks...
[03:09] <JimmyDee_> now fglrxinfo
[03:09] <kgx> in kate, when doing find and replace, does anyone how we can use escape characters in the "replace with" field? \t or \\t doesn't work
[03:09] <JimmyDee_> and pray it dont say mesa
[03:09] <Lega> What if it does... oh what if it does?
[03:10] <NickPresta> If I pastebin'd some system specs, would someone be able to suggest why Kubuntu would not start (either broken X or it's hanging somewhere)?
[03:10] <Lega> Well, Envy isn't done yet. Almost, though.
[03:10] <JimmyDee_> then you goto www.amd.com and download the driver and manual install
[03:10] <JimmyDee_> which isnt a great bother
[03:10] <Lega> Not a terrible loss- I was going to do that first anyway.
[03:10] <Manyfold> my taskbar is gone what can i do
[03:10] <Manyfold> ?
[03:10] <Lega> Restarting now~
[03:10] <contrast83> Manyfold: Run command -> dcop kicker kicker restart
[03:10] <NickPresta> Manyfold, try: `dcop kicker kicker restart`
[03:11] <NickPresta> contrast83, heh. 1 second :P
[03:11] <contrast83> Manyfold: (Alt+F2 for run command)
[03:12] <contrast83> Whenever I'm playing any 3D games (and only then), the mouse randomly jumps to the top-left area of the screen. Anyone know what could cause this to happen?
[03:13] <infinity__> Is there a possiblity grub just doesn't like my computer ?\
[03:13] <kgx> !kreplace
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kreplace - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <JimmyDee_> how we doin lega?
[03:13] <infinity__> And... I did at one stage have the Vista bootloader on there (I'm a technician I had to) *vomits all over the place and shites myself uncontrollably*
[03:13] <Lega> Doin good, what was that FLGLX command again?
[03:14] <Lega> Oh yay- artsd just crashed again.
[03:14] <Lega> !ati
[03:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:14] <JimmyDee_> fglrxinfo
[03:14] <infinity__> Lega: glad arts is gone in kde4
[03:14] <JimmyDee_> whatever will we do
[03:14] <Lega> How can I stop it from crashing?
[03:15] <JimmyDee_> f o r m a ....
[03:15] <Lega> It is a slight annoyance to have it pop up on login crashing.
[03:15] <JimmyDee_> lol
[03:15] <Lega> tah.  I'm looking for the arts thing
[03:17] <Dr_willis> Lega,  now next week... when your X system refuses to start up.. rerun your envy script.
[03:18] <Lega> Oh, Kubuntu.
[03:18] <kwtm> Is there a command-line program to view a graphics file (such as a *.jpg) on an X-terminal?  I thought there was a program called "xv", and I type "xv MyPhoto.jpg" and a window would pop up showing the JPEG file.  Any similar program available?
[03:18] <JimmyDee_> dapper drake? feisty fawn? horny hampster?
[03:18] <Lega> Oh, Feisty.
[03:18] <JimmyDee_> uno momento
[03:18] <Lega> Dr_willis: I will be sure to~ :D
[03:19] <Dr_willis> Hmm . is the linux 'disrtowatch' web site down?
[03:19] <Mr_Sonoma> Dr_willis, i believe so there was quite a bit of chatter about it the past 2 days on alt.os.linux.ubuntu
[03:19] <Dr_willis> Mr_Sonoma,  ok. Bummer. :)
[03:19] <Dr_willis> one of my fave sites.
[03:20] <Mr_Sonoma> i havent personally checked it though, just noted the chatter
[03:21] <JimmyDee_> theres about 9000 things wrong with arts
[03:21] <Lega> Awesome.
[03:21] <Lega> Do I even need it?
[03:21] <Lega> Can I just uninstall it?
[03:21] <JimmyDee_> does it make sound?
[03:22] <JimmyDee_> after the crash I mean?
[03:22] <Lega> Well, I'm listening to music through Amarok right now.
[03:22] <JimmyDee_> I'll take that as a yes
[03:22] <Lega> ^_^
[03:22] <JimmyDee_> as far as removing it I dont know
[03:23] <Lega> I'll keep it just to be safe.
[03:23] <JimmyDee_> if itll take a bunch of stuff with it
[03:23] <Lega> I just wish I could stop it from crashing on log on.
[03:23] <infinity__> Mr_Sonoma: Is that you ? Its me, CharlieKane
[03:24] <JimmyDee_> try KDE>Control Center>Sound>Sound System and uncheck start arts on KDE Startup
[03:25] <Lega> Kay. Thanks.
[03:25] <hydrogen> only 9000?
[03:25] <hydrogen> your an optimist
[03:25] <JimmyDee_> todfay
[03:25] <JimmyDee_> today
[03:25] <JimmyDee_> and its a sunday
[03:26] <Lega> Wait, do you mean K-Menu, JimmyDee_?
[03:26] <JimmyDee_> yup
[03:26] <Lega> Okay, confused for a second.
[03:27] <Lega> Huh, there is no checkbox for that.
[03:27] <xp_killer> mmm
[03:27] <JimmyDee_> crud I gotta look uno momento brb
[03:27] <Mr_Sonoma> yes its me infinity__
[03:28] <infinity__> hey Mr_Sonoma :D
[03:28] <Mr_Sonoma> how ya doin?
[03:28] <infinity__> not bad
[03:29] <infinity__> I'm actually here at work and one of the guys tried to install kubuntu on his system last night and got a grub error 17
[03:29] <infinity__> I've never seen that before but I'm trying to help out
[03:30] <infinity__> Can we fix that from the live CD ?
[03:30] <mefisto__> infinity__: what is replacing arts in kde4?
[03:31] <infinity__> mefisto__: ah they're using Phonon to support different backends (future proofing)
[03:31] <infinity__> !phonon
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phonon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <infinity__> aw
[03:34] <infinity__> mefisto__: http://phonon.kde.org/
[03:36] <network_ninja> guys i have a question
[03:37] <network_ninja> cant you get mozilla firefox on kubuntu
[03:37] <FIRESIDE91> Yes
[03:37] <Dr_willis> Of coyurse you can
[03:37] <FIRESIDE91> You comfortable with the terminal?
[03:37] <Dr_willis> its right there in the packages. :)
[03:37] <Dr_willis> !info firefox
[03:37] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>+1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9045 kB, installed size 28668 kB
[03:37] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:37] <network_ninja> then why do they give you that other one
[03:37] <Dr_willis> what other one?
[03:37] <FIRESIDE91> Firefox isn't a KDE app
[03:38] <mefisto__> infinity__: is the error 17 machine desktop? how many disks, what type? ide? scsi?
[03:38] <Dr_willis> install one.. i could of had it installed in the time this discussion has been going on.
[03:38] <network_ninja> konquerer
[03:38] <FIRESIDE91> Konqueror is a KDE application......hence it fits in better
[03:38] <network_ninja> o ok thanks
[03:38] <Dr_willis> konqueror is a core part of kde. :)
[03:38] <FIRESIDE91> I only wish Firefox worked with my global menubar... :(
[03:39] <infinity__> im getting the grub load erro 17 on a fresh install of Kubuntu, I've got 2 main HDD's both IDE, 1 has WinXP pro SP2 and the other HDD I'm try'in to get Kubuntu installed
[03:39] <FIRESIDE91> The menu is detached from the application and moved to the top of the screen, just like OS X
[03:39] <Dr_willis> Ick. :)
[03:40] <Dr_willis> of course i fullscreen everything.. so my menus are allways up there anyway
[03:40] <infinity__> I booted the WinPE super power and Recreated the MBR and Bootsector and tried installing Kubuntu and I got the same error
[03:40] <FIRESIDE91> lol, I'm big into saving screen real-estate, so if I can keep 24px off the top of every window, damnit I will
[03:40] <Dr_willis> I got dual monitors.. :) heck with it.
[03:41] <Dr_willis> i got one whole monitor just for irc!
[03:41] <xp_killer> ?
[03:41] <FIRESIDE91> lol
[03:41] <Dr_willis> adn fonts set to be like 1nch tall!
[03:41] <FIRESIDE91> xp, there's your issue
[03:41] <infinity__> haha
[03:41] <FIRESIDE91> You fuxed up your MBR
[03:41] <infinity__> I have to have XP to play wow and CS:S
[03:42] <FIRESIDE91> Did you install XP AFTER Kubuntu?
[03:42] <xp_killer> i got cs just never look to install it with wine
[03:42] <xp_killer> but what is wow?
[03:42] <xp_killer> world of war?
[03:42] <FIRESIDE91> World of Warcraft :P
[03:42] <infinity__> no no XP is my main OS and I my work mates use Kubuntu, so i tried to install it at home
[03:42] <network_ninja> i have css on kubuntu
[03:43] <xp_killer> FIRESIDE91: never play them type of game
[03:43] <FIRESIDE91> Did you install XP AFTER Kubuntu?
[03:43] <xp_killer> i mostly play games like SIMS
[03:43] <FIRESIDE91> sims2 is awsome :P
[03:43] <infinity__> No XP was 1st
[03:43] <notv> is there a virtualbox channel?
[03:43] <JimmyDee> not that button
[03:43] <FIRESIDE91> OK, you either deleted your /boot partition or you fried your MBR and you'll have to reinstall grub
[03:43] <xp_killer> notv: type /list to see
[03:44] <FIRESIDE91> heh, /list ..... gotta love flodding the screen :P
[03:44] <infinity__> wait i know why its not working, I had vista on my PC and Kubuntu knows it...thats why
[03:44] <xp_killer> lol
[03:44] <notv> i have an amd64 but i used the alternet i386 disk to isntall feisty. which version of virtualbox should i use?
[03:44] <FIRESIDE91> Might be, vista sucks :p
[03:44] <Dr_willis> I perfer vmwareserver :)
[03:44] <FIRESIDE91> The X86 one NoTV
[03:44] <infinity__> even know I've removed vista kubuntu knows I've had it on the PC \
[03:45] <FIRESIDE91> VMWare Server sucks
[03:45] <xp_killer> vista was lame from the day they start talking about it
[03:45] <Dr_willis> FIRESIDE91,  sure..w hatever...
[03:45] <xp_killer> it got nothing but graph
[03:45] <FIRESIDE91> VMWare Workstation is better :P
[03:45] <infinity__> dude i sell PC's i know 1st hand how bad vista is
[03:45] <notv> whats the best?
[03:45] <JimmyDee> whoa, do NOT try to uninstall arts
[03:45] <Dr_willis> I couldent get most of my livecd's to work with virtualbox for some reason.
[03:45] <FIRESIDE91> For free?  virtualbox
[03:45] <FIRESIDE91> If you want to pay get VMWare Workstation
[03:46] <JimmyDee> if you want free get vmware server
[03:46] <infinity__> WAIT no dont talk about vista in here, its so bad the Crappiness will come over this channel
[03:46] <Dr_willis> !vmware-server
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmware-server - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <Dr_willis> !vmwareserver
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmwareserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:46] <notv> 15G to install that sucker
[03:46] <Dr_willis> phht.
[03:46] <FIRESIDE91> Vista would have been decent if they stuck with the longhorn code...
[03:46] <Dr_willis> Vista would have been decent - if they actually had some new features that people needed.
[03:46] <JimmyDee> drivespace is cheeep
[03:46] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:47] <FIRESIDE91> Vista needs 15GB to INSTALL, after install it's like...8GB :P  Still to bloated, but hey, it's windows :P
[03:47] <JimmyDee> but the display goes roundie round and stuff
[03:47] <JimmyDee> oh wait compiz does that
[03:47] <Ghat> Vista isn't ready yet
[03:47] <mefisto__> infinity__: one workaround is to install grub on the 2nd disk with kubuntu on it, and F8 on bootup to choose which disk to boot from (if your bios supports that. many do)
[03:47] <JimmyDee> microsoft "isnt ready yet"
[03:47] <FIRESIDE91> Vista will never be ready
[03:48] <FIRESIDE91> Sadly, I can see OS X taking M$'s market share, not us
[03:48] <JimmyDee> bah crapple
[03:48] <Dr_willis> Apple - Proving that Marketing Trumps all!
[03:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:48] <FIRESIDE91> Honestly though, have any of you seen what Vista was SUPPOSED to be?
[03:48] <Dr_willis> well.. for a short time.
[03:48] <nzk> I accidently took out the multiverse line from my sources.list, at least I think I did, what's the URL for it?
[03:48] <infinity__> I tried doing that and Booting from the HDD with Kubuntu on it but i still got the error 17
[03:49] <FIRESIDE91> Looks like K/Ubuntu needs to start making "FIX IT DAMNIT" CD's?
[03:49] <mefisto__> infinity__: but is grub installed on that disk? or on the default 1st disk with windows on it?
[03:49] <JimmyDee> the bootloader for vista is evil
[03:49] <infinity__> i think the thing that shits me off about vista is the cheaper notebook for school kids, over here you get a notebook for under $1000 and It cannot run vista at all
[03:49] <FIRESIDE91> New on Digg: Barry Bonds Homerun #756 Ball Sold at $752,467
[03:50] <FIRESIDE91> Agreed infinity_
[03:50] <infinity__> I just feel sad for poor school kids that cannot get the $2000 notebook
[03:51] <notv> yea they sell those notebooks with 1G ram and its not enough for vista
[03:51] <infinity__> wow i hate vista, thats just leave it at that
[03:51] <JimmyDee> woohoo dell ubuntu notebooks
[03:51] <Dr_willis> New on Digg. OJ Steals  Barry Bonds Homerun #756 Ball , claims its his....
[03:51] <BluesKaj> Minataku, I ran the netbsd live cd but it couldn't auto config dhcp , and I tried to config the gateway/router IP addy etc but it still couldn't see the network ... oh well another frisbee for the pile :)
[03:51] <FIRESIDE91> Longhorn was looking good, Vista blew it all :P
[03:51] <infinity__> no over here the under $1000 notebook have 512MB
[03:51] <notv> yea i wish i bought a dell but ive got a toshiba
[03:51] <mefisto__> infinity__: but then again, those poor kids don't have to deal with vista!
[03:51] <notv> infinity_over where
[03:52] <xp_killer> infinity__: what version of vista you have?virus home eddition? :D
[03:52] <notv> how well does vista run inside of feisty via virtualbox?
[03:53] <FIRESIDE91> Shitty
[03:53] <notv> how shitty
[03:53] <NickPresta> !language | notv
[03:53] <ubotu> notv: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:53] <xp_killer> lol
[03:53] <infinity__> mefisto__: yeah I'm a bit of a noob with this stuff, I have winxp on my main HDD and I'm trying to get Kubuntu installed on my 2 HDD...it installs ok and when i restart it just dosen't work
[03:53] <FIRESIDE91> Scale of 1-10?
[03:53] <FIRESIDE91> 1
[03:53] <notv> what about xp
[03:53] <FIRESIDE91> XP will run great if you have the RAM
[03:53] <notv> nickpresta mybad
[03:53] <notv> ive got 2G
[03:54] <infinity__> oh no no, I don't run vista at home, I only Sell notebooks with vista and Downgrade them to XP
[03:54] <Dr_willis> 10000000gb ! and xp still uses swap!
[03:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:54] <FIRESIDE91> It'll run just fine, just don't expect to run anything graphically intensive :P
[03:54] <xp_killer> infinity__: you got to look for a tuto to install linux with vista on it
[03:54] <FIRESIDE91> Virtualization technology in the grand scheme of things is still in it's infancy...sadly
[03:54] <notv> fireside91 i just need windows for some school stuff
[03:54] <notv> but you think xp will run a lot better than vista?
[03:55] <JimmyDee> solution: format out the virus/vista partition and make a big linux box
[03:55] <FIRESIDE91> Yes, MUCH better
[03:55] <infinity__> I know XP works betten them vista
[03:55] <Ghat> Ill vouch for that
[03:55] <FIRESIDE91> Heh, I just installed Linux on my 320GB drive and move XP(Gamimg) to my 40GB
[03:55] <JimmyDee> bah xp gaming cedega
[03:56] <Ghat> cedega costs money though...:(
[03:56] <infinity__> If i had 8GB ram and 17xIntel C2D Q6600 maybe vista might run ok
[03:56] <FIRESIDE91> Cedega still can't run Source engine games well
[03:56] <FIRESIDE91> And damnit, I wanna play HL2!
[03:56] <notv> what about 2G ram infinity__
[03:56] <JimmyDee> point
[03:56] <FIRESIDE91> I wish Valve would port Steam and Source to Linux...
[03:56] <FIRESIDE91> That'd be my dream come true...
[03:57] <Distro^Junkie> this christmas I'll be getting 2 500 gig externals for music backup
[03:57] <BluesKaj> interesting , the off topic police are sleeping on the job again :)
[03:58] <FIRESIDE91> ???
[03:58] <xp_killer> Distro^Junkie: 2500gig?how much that cost so?
[03:58] <Distro^Junkie> little over 300
[03:58] <xp_killer> sata?
[03:58] <infinity__> is that USD?
[03:58] <Distro^Junkie> 2 500 gig
[03:58] <FIRESIDE91> Firewire or USB?
[03:58] <Distro^Junkie> not 2500
[03:58] <NickPresta> Any idea why my LiveCD of Feisty would hang on the "Loading the Desktop" part of the startup? I checked xserssion-errors and there is mention of dcopserver and kdeinit failing. Any ideas?
[03:58] <xp_killer> sata?
[03:58] <Distro^Junkie> usb
[03:59] <FIRESIDE91> SATA = Serial ATA
[03:59] <FIRESIDE91> Go for Firewire if you have the ports
[03:59] <network_ninja> my ubuntu live cd froze on the installation and ruined my xp partition
[03:59] <network_ninja> D:<
[03:59] <NickPresta> network_ninja, how does that work?
[03:59] <chuy_max> hey !, what happened with window menu in Konqueror? is there a way to enable it?
[03:59] <FIRESIDE91> It didn't ruin you XP partition
[03:59] <NickPresta> network_ninja, AFAIK, the liveCD doesn't touch your partition at all
[03:59] <network_ninja> i said installation
[03:59] <FIRESIDE91> Unless you told it to
[03:59] <network_ninja> yea it shrunk the partition
[03:59] <network_ninja> i did tell it to
[04:00] <FIRESIDE91> That's your issue!
[04:00] <Distro^Junkie> ewww
[04:00] <Distro^Junkie> bad idea
[04:00] <xp_killer> network_ninja: never heard about something ruin and xp partition.were u installing kubuntu on the same hdd as the xp?
[04:00] <Distro^Junkie> always partition your own drives
[04:00] <FIRESIDE91> NEVER  srhink a NTFS partition
[04:00] <network_ninja> well i didnt know that
[04:00] <xp_killer> lol
[04:00] <network_ninja> doesnt matter anyways
[04:00] <infinity__> what I'll do is wait till i get home and I'll boot the live CD and try again, thnx peeps...latz all
[04:00] <Distro^Junkie> now ya do
[04:00] <network_ninja> yea
[04:00] <FIRESIDE91> NTFS partitions don't like pshyciatric care :P
[04:01] <Distro^Junkie> use partition magic
[04:01] <Barbarian> use "NTFSRESIZE" from RIP CD
[04:01] <FIRESIDE91> NTFSRESIZE has the same problems
[04:01] <Barbarian> ntfsresize -s XXXMB/GB /dev/XXX
[04:02] <mefisto__> infinity__: here's a foolproof way: disconnect the windows disk, install kubuntu. It should boot up. Reconnect the windows disk, then use F8 to choose which disk to boot
[04:02] <Distro^Junkie> acronis makes a good disc suite also
[04:02] <FIRESIDE91> We don't know enough about NTFS to go resizing it yet, hell, we recently only got (EXPERIMENTAL) Write support
[04:02] <FIRESIDE91> Acronis > Partition Magic
[04:02] <FIRESIDE91> Partition Magic sucks after Symantec (READ: MAKERS OF NORTON) bought it
[04:02] <Distro^Junkie> I used acronis myself
[04:02] <NickPresta> FIRESIDE91, actually, ntfs-3g is rather stable. I would hardly call it EXPERIMENTAL
[04:02] <Barbarian> FIRESIDE --- true
[04:03] <FIRESIDE91> NickPresta, I was under the impression that it still had issues, I guess it has developed a lot since last time I checked
[04:03] <xp_killer> FIRE
[04:03] <FIRESIDE91> Where?
[04:03] <Distro^Junkie> where do i go for enabling restricted formats ?
[04:03] <FIRESIDE91> Distro, you are using Kubuntu, correct?
[04:03] <BluesKaj> can some one help network_ninja instead of telling him what you  use
[04:04] <Distro^Junkie> yes
[04:04] <xp_killer> FIRESIDE91: symantec is better than partition magic?
[04:04] <FIRESIDE91> sudo aptitude install xine-ffmpeg
[04:04] <FIRESIDE91> xp_killer, Symantec BOUGHT Partition magic
[04:04] <FIRESIDE91> And symantec is HORRIBLE
[04:04] <xp_killer> o_O
[04:04] <NickPresta> !offtopic | FIRESIDE91
[04:04] <ubotu> FIRESIDE91: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:04] <xp_killer> lol
[04:05] <FIRESIDE91> Oh noes, the offtopic police :P
[04:05] <FIRESIDE91> Did that work Distro?
[04:05] <Distro^Junkie> one sec
[04:05] <BluesKaj> network_ninja, do you have a working OS on that pc ?
[04:06] <FIRESIDE91> Wait, that's wrong, it's libxine1-ffmpeg not xine-ffmpeg
[04:06] <Distro^Junkie> yea cause it couldn't find the other one
[04:06] <Distro^Junkie> lol
[04:08] <FIRESIDE91> Now, what program are you using to play what format?
[04:08] <Distro^Junkie> yea that worked
[04:08] <Distro^Junkie> trying to play formats off of wwe.com
[04:08] <FIRESIDE91> xp, do you have a bluetooth card/dongle or have it built into your machine
[04:09] <xp_killer> usb
[04:09] <xp_killer> key
[04:09] <Distro^Junkie> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras <--- will this help ?
[04:09] <FIRESIDE91> No
[04:10] <FIRESIDE91> Give me a few XP, but first of all, does Kubuntu detect the key?  (System Settings -> Bluetooth)
[04:10] <xp_killer> ???
[04:10] <Manyfold> can amarok stream to a icecast-server?
[04:10] <FIRESIDE91> Not that I know of
[04:11] <FIRESIDE91> I'm pretty sure VLC can...
[04:11] <FIRESIDE91> Anyone else know?
[04:11] <Distro^Junkie> don't believe it can
[04:11] <Manyfold> can any kde supplied audio player?
[04:11] <Tm_T> Manyfold: may to rephrase?
[04:12] <Manyfold> can any kde audio player stream to icecast?
[04:12] <Tm_T> xp_killer: please stop spamming /me
[04:12] <Tm_T> Manyfold: sorry, no idea
[04:12] <FIRESIDE91> bluesoleil is a WINDOWS bluetooth stack
[04:12] <Distro^Junkie> mpd I believe can
[04:13] <xp_killer> o_O
[04:13] <FIRESIDE91> Distro, for WWE.com you only need flash I believe
[04:13] <Distro^Junkie> naww FIRESIDE91 it plays windows media format
[04:13] <FIRESIDE91> xp_killer, K/Ubuntu has a great bluetooth stack already
[04:13] <Manyfold> okay i'll install vlc
[04:14] <FIRESIDE91> Does the FFMPEG thing work?
[04:14] <Distro^Junkie> yea it installed
[04:14] <Distro^Junkie> one sec
[04:14] <FIRESIDE91> Do the videos play is the question
[04:14] <xp_killer> FIRESIDE91: it doesnt detect my wiimote.i had to install all types of thing and run in a konsole to see the wiimote adress
[04:15] <FIRESIDE91> The wiimote isn't a regular HID, it takes some special configuration
[04:16] <FIRESIDE91> xp_killer: http://www.wiili.org/index.php/WMD this might help
[04:17] <xp_killer> got it
[04:17] <Distro^Junkie> man can't wait to get my macbookpro
[04:17] <ideprobelms> Is anyone else seeing IDE cdrom errors after the last set of updates?
[04:17] <Distro^Junkie> not me
[04:17] <FIRESIDE91> Distro, you jerk
[04:18] <Distro^Junkie> lol what ?
[04:18] <FIRESIDE91> I'm still saving to get a new iMac :P
[04:18] <xp_killer> lol
[04:19] <Distro^Junkie> that's like getting a celeron instead of a athlon 64
[04:19] <Distro^Junkie> lol
[04:19] <Tm_T> !ohmy | FIRESIDE91
[04:19] <ubotu> FIRESIDE91: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:20] <mefisto__> what language?
[04:20] <Distro^Junkie> yea what language
[04:20] <Distro^Junkie> jerk is not considered swearing
[04:20] <Tm_T> well I do
[04:20] <stdin> it is if Tm_T says it is
[04:20] <mefisto__> as in "usb drives are jerk-tolerant"
[04:21] <Distro^Junkie> ok Tm_T
[04:21] <FIRESIDE91> You can be mean to a USB drive?
[04:21] <FIRESIDE91> lol
[04:21] <mefisto__> you can jerk them around, they don't mind
[04:21] <ideprobelms> Is this the correct place to discuss issues with Kubuntu (fiesty Fawn)?
[04:21] <Tm_T> ideprobelms: yes
[04:22] <FIRESIDE91> mefisto__: lol
[04:22] <ideprobelms> If I may -- after the last round of automatic updates, I'm seeing errors on my CD devices when reading movie DVDs.
[04:22] <Tm_T> mefisto__: FIRESIDE91: your jerky perkies are currently offtopic
[04:22] <xp_killer> !botsnack
[04:22] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:23] <xp_killer> good bot
[04:23] <xp_killer> he love me
[04:23] <xp_killer> :D
[04:23] <Distro^Junkie> least someone does lol
[04:23] <Distro^Junkie> jk
[04:23] <Tm_T> ideprobelms: what errors?
[04:23] <ideprobelms> This on three separate machines, two are running i386, anf the other X_64
[04:23] <ideprobelms> dmesg shows this:
[04:23] <nzk> Argh, I uncommented 2 lines in sources.list and now it says "E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_feisty-backports_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)"
[04:23] <Tm_T> ideprobelms: I hope youre not gonna flood
[04:24] <john> I have a Presario C508us and I cannot get the wireless to enable
[04:24] <FIRESIDE91> Link to pastebin, PLEASE
[04:24] <koljaNS> hklj4
[04:24] <john> I hit enable and it just sits there.
[04:24] <ideprobelms> No, no flood!
[04:24] <john> It reverts to disable
[04:24] <stdin> nzk: you've ran "sudo apt-get update"?
[04:24] <BluesKaj> nzk , post your sources list in pastebin
[04:24] <john> wired is fine, but not wireless
[04:24] <xp_killer> oops
[04:25] <nzk> Nevermind.
[04:25] <ideprobelms> ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[04:25] <xp_killer> lol
[04:25] <mefisto__> what's that automatic sources.list webpage?
[04:25] <mefisto__> *sources.list generator
[04:25] <BluesKaj> source-o-matic
[04:25] <stdin> !source-o-matic
[04:25] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:25] <FIRESIDE91> Why not just use adept to fix the sources list?
[04:26] <ideprobelms> end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector xxxxx
[04:26] <FIRESIDE91> Speaking of which, 73 updates to install :P
[04:26] <Tm_T> ideprobelms: interesting
[04:26] <mefisto__> FIRESIDE91: another easy way
[04:26] <john> anyone have this similar issue?
[04:26] <john> !wireless
[04:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:27] <Tm_T> ideprobelms: I can read my dvds and cds just fine
[04:27] <Distro^Junkie> anyone know a good tut to make kde look like os X ?
[04:27] <ideprobelms> It's on three separate machines, so I know it's not hardware -- and it reads the Kubuntu install DVDs ok so far as I can tell.. Though it might be in libdvdread or the dvdnav libraries
[04:27] <FIRESIDE91> Distro, search for "Baghira"
[04:27] <ideprobelms> since it's only on movei DVDs
[04:28] <ideprobelms> xine chokes
[04:28] <BluesKaj> libdvdcss2 installed ,ideprobelms ?
[04:29] <stdin> Distro^Junkie: just install kwin-baghira
[04:29] <ideprobelms> libdvdcss on all three machines -- have read moveis on all three of these machines prior.
[04:29] <Distro^Junkie> thanx stdin
[04:30] <BluesKaj> ideprobelms, install the libdvdcss2 version
[04:30] <ideprobelms> um, just a sec..
[04:31] <Distro^Junkie> stdin: what do i need to do after its installed ?
[04:31] <FIRESIDE91> Alright, this is getting annoying, whenever I run apps as root my color scheme doesn't apply to them, how do I export my color scheme again?
[04:31] <ideprobelms> 1.2.9-2
[04:32] <stdin> Distro^Junkie: that installs a theme, so go to system settings > appearance and you can choose it
[04:32] <Distro^Junkie> ok thanx
[04:32] <john> How do I configure an internal wireless card?
[04:32] <FIRESIDE91> john, what card is it?
[04:32] <flaccid> !wireless | john
[04:32] <ubotu> john: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:33] <BluesKaj> yup, ideprobelms that's the latest
[04:33] <ideprobelms> libdvdread is installed too. 0.9.7-2
[04:33] <BluesKaj> libxine-extracodecs
[04:33] <ideprobelms> Is there anyway to roll back the last batch of updates?
[04:33] <mefisto__> ideprobelms: how did you install libdvdcss2? repo? which one?
[04:34] <john> FIRESIDE91: It's a Compaq c508us laptop with an internal Broadcom Corporation Dell wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Car (rev 01)
[04:34] <ideprobelms> through the medibuntu repository, I htink.
[04:34] <ideprobelms> all install were done through adept_manager
[04:34] <BluesKaj> mefisto__, read above he has the latest version 1.2.9-2
[04:35] <mefisto__> dpkg -s libdvdcss2 should report 1.2.9-2medibuntu2+build1
[04:35] <FIRESIDE91> john: mind sending me the output of lspci (in a private message)
[04:35] <ideprobelms> Version: 1.2.9-2medibuntu2+build1
[04:35] <JimmyDee> umm how do I select a theme in kubuntu?
[04:36] <john> FIREI wish I could. I am on my desktop. It's on the laptop. No way on xfering the info
[04:36] <john> I can type out what I have for the device if you wishy
[04:36] <FIRESIDE91> Hold on a sec
[04:36] <ideprobelms> Dunno if this matters, but this is Edgy upgraded wit adept to Feisty
[04:36] <FIRESIDE91> Run lspci on it and just give me the line for your wireless card
[04:37] <john> 06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI card (rev 01)
[04:37] <FIRESIDE91> ok
[04:38] <FIRESIDE91> Give me a few minutes to dig up the info
[04:38] <john> FIREThank you much appreciated
[04:38] <john> FIRESIDE91: Thank you, much appreciated
[04:41] <FIRESIDE91> It seems you have a bcm43xx card john, I'm not sure if it will work with the same driver mine has, but it's worth a try
[04:41] <FIRESIDE91> Can you transfer files over to the other machine (burn a CD, USB drive, etc?)
[04:41] <john> Lets do it
[04:41] <john> Yes
[04:42] <john> I shold be able to send it out, somehow
[04:42] <john> *should
[04:42] <FIRESIDE91> Good, I'll have a .deb and a .o file that you need to get over there
[04:42] <john> Thank you
[04:43] <FIRESIDE91> are you seeing my file transfers john?
[04:43] <BluesKaj> nite all...sacktime for old guys
[04:44] <FIRESIDE91> lol, nite Blues
[04:44] <john> FIRESIDE91: Failed.
[04:44] <john> :(
[04:44] <john> Can you send them via email
[04:45] <FIRESIDE91> Yes, what's your address
[04:45] <stdin> john: /msg it, this channel is logged
[04:45] <stdin> (ie: google-able)
[04:45] <XsteelWolf> How do you guys feel using kubuntu vs ubuntu?
[04:45] <FIRESIDE91> It's a personal preference
[04:46] <FIRESIDE91> I'm comfortable with both of them...and I have a certain disdain for konqueror
[04:46] <XsteelWolf> is there firefox in k?
[04:46] <mefisto__> XsteelWolf: just a guess, but probably most here prefer kubuntu
[04:46] <stdin> you can install it
[04:46] <FIRESIDE91> Not by default, but you can install it
[04:46] <XsteelWolf> how's konqueror vs firefox,havent got any experience with kon
[04:47] <FIRESIDE91> Konqueror is awful...they still haven't merged most of the changes apple made to KHTML with safari...
[04:47] <stdin> konqueror is more stable, that's for sure
[04:47] <mefisto__> konqueror doesn't have extensions...
[04:47] <XsteelWolf> different opinons here
[04:47] <XsteelWolf> hehe
[04:47] <FIRESIDE91> I prefer to use Opera on Kubuntu, it's a QT app so it integrates nicely...while being leaps and bounds over konqueror
[04:48] <XsteelWolf> mind to show what themes are you using for kubuntu?
[04:48] <stdin> konqueror is the most standards compliant browser out there
[04:48] <FIRESIDE91> Xsteel, gimme a sec, I'll send you one of my screenshots
[04:48] <XsteelWolf> sure
[04:48] <mefisto__> the cool thing about opera is the ability to zoom, even youtube embedded video can go full screen easily
[04:49] <Distro^Junkie> hmm seems to be easier to make gnome look like os x then kde
[04:49] <FIRESIDE91> Hell no, KDE has native support for the global menu, gnome is a bitch to get that set up
[04:49] <stdin> if you're just discussing kubuntu, and not requesting support. it should be in the #kubuntu-offtopic channel
[04:50] <XsteelWolf> wierd
[04:50] <XsteelWolf> can't seems to accept
[04:50] <XsteelWolf> try sending again
[04:50] <XsteelWolf> i set it to auto accept
[04:51] <jagcorvair> FIRESIDE91: Thank you.
[04:51] <FIRESIDE91> Xsteel, it's my nat over here, I'm just gonna put it on photobucket
[04:51] <stdin> FIRESIDE91, XsteelWolf: if you're just discussing kubuntu, and not requesting support. it should be in the #kubuntu-offtopic channel
[04:54] <jared> hi all
[04:55] <XsteelWolf> what's kde version now on kubuntu
[04:56] <jared> I have the VT82C686 Chipset, with the snd_via82xx driver, it shows its loaded and everything, but get no sound, any help??
[04:56] <FIRESIDE91> Check your volume?
[04:56] <jared> already did
[04:56] <mefisto__> ideprobelms: this may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24399 take a look
[04:57] <jared> any others?
[04:57] <mefisto__> jared: just one soundcard?
[04:58] <jared> yes, onboard
[05:02] <ideprobelms> mefisto__: thanks, I'll look it over.
[05:03] <jared> ok, so this one time at band camp.... :D
[05:05] <ideprobelms> mefisto__: Ah -- Thanks for the link, this may help.  Fiesty on a fresh install addresses IDE devices through scsi emulation, doesn't it?  Edgy didn't... well, the device names weren't anyway. Edgy, the cdrom was /dev/hdx, whereas non-upgrade Fiesty is /dev/sr0 ...
[05:06] <stdin> should be /dev/sd0 sr0 is a bit different
[05:07] <ideprobelms> hmmm...  how about on a USB cdrom device?
[05:08] <ideprobelms> I guess a better question is, what is the difference between /dev/sr0 and /dev/sd0 ?
[05:08] <stdin> should still map to an scd0 device (i means scd0 the ist time too)
[05:09] <stdin> sr0 is sort of like raw access that the kernel maps scd0 to, it's not really usable by anything tho
[05:10] <ideprobelms> I have three machnes that have this symptom - AMD64 with IDE, AMD with IDE and an Intel with IDE via USB.  The machine with the USB k9copy has /dev/sr0 as the input device.
[05:11] <ideprobelms> It was my first attempt at a new Feisty install -- the others were upgrades.
[05:11] <ideprobelms> I'll try a fresh install there.
[05:12] <ideprobelms> Still doesn't expalin the other two, but the kernel was recently upgraded so it may after all.
[05:12] <ideprobelms> Thanks for the link -- gives me something to work from.
[05:22] <jago> can any one tell me how to get a driver for my lexmark z710
[05:22] <jago> i am having problems with the development pack
[05:27] <stdin> jago: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkMultifuncPrinters or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/LexmarkPrinters
[05:33] <jago> Thank you
[05:35] <notv> so much trig!
[05:41] <ether> gah! this is driving me insane
[05:41] <ether> How would I plug my linux http server into my router so that when other computers on my network connect, http requests are sent to that linux server?
[05:41] <Lega> Oui.
[05:41] <ether> basically, instead of "the internet" I want to put "my http server only"
[05:44] <FIRESIDE91> Uhm...why ether?
[05:47] <ether> because people on my network don't need to be able to access the internet, just this one server.
[05:47] <ether> and I'm not sure if I'll have access to a connection everywhere
[05:47] <flaccid> ether: port forwarding
[05:47] <ether> but I will have access to a router and the server
[05:48] <ether> would that be with iptables or something?
[05:48] <flaccid> what router do you have for your wan?
[05:48] <FIRESIDE91> No, that would be setting up a proxy
[05:48] <FIRESIDE91> And blocking all internet traffic with a router
[05:48] <flaccid> actually im confused to what your question is..
[05:48] <ether> basically, I have a wireless router
[05:49] <ether> and I have a linux http server
[05:49] <FIRESIDE91> Any HTTP Trafic -> Redirect to his Server, that's what he wants
[05:49] <ether> I would like people to be able to connect to the router and browse things on the server
[05:49] <ether> yeah, thanks
[05:49] <flaccid> you want service discovery actually
[05:51] <FIRESIDE91> What he wants is a mess...
[05:51] <FIRESIDE91> Actually, I have an idea now
[05:51] <Fiya_Afk> hey guys, question, on a newer core 2 duo system, whats the benefit for running 64 bit over 32? Will it be something noticible? Or only for certain applications
[05:51] <FIRESIDE91> Computers -> router -> server -> internet
[05:51] <Fiya_Afk> And is it worth it, with app compatibility issues
[05:51] <FIRESIDE91> Fiya, 64bit allows more memory, if you have less than 4GB use the 32bit
[05:52] <Fiya_Afk> is that the only difference?
[05:52] <ether> FIRESIDE91: that could work.. but suppose I don't have internet at the time
[05:52] <stdin> Fiya_Afk: not that much benefit, unless you have 4+GB RAM (and want to use it all)
[05:52] <FIRESIDE91> That and 64bit math
[05:52] <Fiya_Afk> So not really worth it at this point for me
[05:52] <FIRESIDE91> ether Well then you can ifnore the internet part
[05:53] <FIRESIDE91> then setup iptables to intercept all http traffic and send it to your server
[05:53] <yet> lecek
[05:54] <ether> I'll give it a shot, thanks
[05:54] <FIRESIDE91> O.o\
[05:54] <FIRESIDE91> HE left without me pointing out that his router would need some work to go with that setup
[06:01] <bigleon> Question; can i set up kopete to say what song i'm playing on amarok?
[06:01] <FIRESIDE91> Probably
[06:01] <bigleon> Well part 2 of question, if so, how.
[06:02] <stdin> I'm sure there's a script for that on kde-apps.org
[06:02] <bigleon> ty
[06:02] <stdin> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Now+Playing,+lite?content=62054
[06:02] <stdin> like that one ^
[06:02] <seth> bigleon, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=33503
[06:03] <mefisto__> bigleon: there's a plugin that does it. kopete settings > configure plugins > now listening
[06:06] <Lega> !kopete
[06:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kopete - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:06] <Lega> :[
[06:09] <bigleon> Thank you
[06:15] <bigleon> is there any good free Auto Cad Like programs out there i see autoQ3D form what i understand he requires donation to dl
[06:16] <notv> maybe you could find a torrent
[06:16] <stdin> bigleon: try qcad
[06:17] <sarag> sudo make snack
[06:18] <FIRESIDE91> sudo mount bike
[06:19] <kkathman> sudo apt-get remove trolls
[06:20] <stdin> hey, kkathman how'd you do that ;)
[06:20] <kkathman> yanno - special talent :)
[06:20] <kkathman> heh
[06:22] <xsteelwolf> fire you there?
[06:22] <FIRESIDE91> yea
[06:22] <xsteelwolf> i just installed kubuntu
[06:22] <zgmf-x20a> hey any kontact experts in here?  few questions.  well. i guess not expert but uses it alot
[06:22] <xsteelwolf> But I can't get on wireless
[06:22] <FIRESIDE91> I use kontact
[06:23] <xsteelwolf> how do i search for wireless network?
[06:23] <FIRESIDE91> what wireless card steel?
[06:23] <xsteelwolf> intel 4965ag
[06:23] <zgmf-x20a> FIRESIDE91: after entering alllllllll the info and what not, is there a way to save the contact lists and everyting,  such as an import amd export feature?
[06:23] <FIRESIDE91> Right click the network icon and select your network
[06:23] <xsteelwolf> and after i install kubuntu,my windows doesnt show up on boot, now i can't get back to windows
[06:23] <xsteelwolf> where's the network icon
[06:24] <xsteelwolf> how do i know if wlan is installed in the first place
[06:24] <FIRESIDE91> Systray steel
[06:24] <FIRESIDE91> zgmf, file menu -> export
[06:24] <xsteelwolf> i don't get you
[06:25] <xsteelwolf> i can't find the network icon
[06:25] <FIRESIDE91> In your system tray (right side of the panel)
[06:25] <zgmf-x20a> FIRESIDE91: woah... that was a super noob thing to do... i didnt know that each side icon had its own features change the top bar...
[06:25] <zgmf-x20a> lol
[06:25] <zgmf-x20a> thanks!
[06:25] <zgmf-x20a> ^_^
[06:25] <FIRESIDE91> lol
[06:25] <Z_Man> i tried the KDE 4 beta 2 on Kubuntu 7.04 and I get two boxes at the bottom of my screen stating that "This object could not be created."
[06:26] <Lega> How might I figure out what kind of LAN card my computer has?
[06:26] <Z_Man> i heard this may be due to plasma? anyone else know of this problem?
[06:26] <Lega> Wireless is working fine, but ethernet is a no go- Kubuntu doesn't even detect it. :\
[06:26] <stdin> Z_Man: every one gets that
[06:26] <xsteelwolf> how do i go into wireless interface?
[06:26] <xsteelwolf> is there a command to type in terminal?
[06:26] <FIRESIDE91> Right click the network icon
[06:26] <Z_Man> ok, well how can people fix it?
[06:26] <FIRESIDE91> Unless it's not there
[06:27] <xsteelwolf> i can't see the network icon
[06:27] <stdin> Z_Man: you can't
[06:27] <FIRESIDE91> K Menu -> Internet -> KNetworkManager
[06:27] <xsteelwolf> when ethernet is unplug
[06:27] <xsteelwolf> i can't open it
[06:27] <xsteelwolf> when it is plug,im able to
[06:28] <FIRESIDE91> Right click the icon and see if it lists any wireless networks...
[06:28] <Z_Man> well that's just dandy
[06:28] <mefisto__> xsteelwolf: in the options sub-menu
[06:28] <Z_Man> i quit
[06:29] <xsteelwolf> im there
[06:29] <xsteelwolf> but i only see wired connection
[06:29] <Z_Man> thanks for being so to-the-point, stdin
[06:30] <xsteelwolf> if i go under configuration,i see disable wireless
[06:30] <clyrrad> Can anyone here help me with wine? Everytime I try to run my game with wine i Just get some "debugger started message" like the game crashes - No idea what do do, am I missing something in the install / config of wine?  I am using version 0.9.45
[06:30] <xsteelwolf> but i dont see any networks
[06:30] <stdin> Z_Man: it's because the plasmoids for that part wern't (and still aren't) released, so nothing anyone can do
[06:30] <FIRESIDE91> fuuuuuu.....you might have that annoying intel card then
[06:30] <xsteelwolf> what can i do?
[06:30] <xsteelwolf> even my wireless icon isn't blinking
[06:31] <xsteelwolf> neither can i on it
[06:31] <stdin> clyrrad: try asking in #winehq
[06:31] <clyrrad> end process dies with No process loaded, cannot execute 'detach'........... can anyone help?
[06:31] <FIRESIDE91> hmmm
[06:31] <FIRESIDE91> trying to juggle to many channels...hold on steel
[06:33] <FIRESIDE91> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper Your card is still lacking native support until intel writes a decent driver, you'll need to use NDISWRAPPER
[06:33] <jza873> hi looking for some help i seem to have this problem with not being able to ping i cal ping the lo but anything besides that i cannot which is odd because i i have static addresses for all my devices and all can go online and have no trouble with any p2p and no firewall running so i cant figure out what the problem is
[06:33] <mefisto__> xsteelwolf: alt-f2, type remote:/   is that what you want to see?
[06:34] <xsteelwolf> yea
[06:34] <xsteelwolf> but i don't see network services
[06:34] <jagcorvair> FIRESIDE91: Hey
[06:34] <jagcorvair> FIRESIDE91: Are you available?
[06:35] <FIRESIDE91> Yea
[06:35] <jagcorvair> I am on the laptop
[06:35] <jagcorvair> Following those instructions, I don't have the wireless available
[06:35] <FIRESIDE91> Did you get the wifi working?
[06:35] <FIRESIDE91> Did you download the right drivers for you machine from dell?
[06:36] <xsteelwolf> fire,i;ll be back in 30-45mins
[06:36] <jagcorvair> I followed the directions
[06:36] <xsteelwolf> im off to fetch my bro
[06:36] <FIRESIDE91> But did you download the RIGHT drivers, or do you have the same notebook?
[06:36] <jagcorvair> turns out I don't have build-essential and I can't download it for some strange reason
[06:36] <jagcorvair> This is a fresh install of 7.04
[06:37] <jagcorvair> I also can't get ndiswrapper installed even though it says its installed
[06:37] <FIRESIDE91> odd
[06:37] <jagcorvair> Yup
[06:37] <FIRESIDE91> Are you connected through a router?
[06:37] <jagcorvair> Yes
[06:38] <FIRESIDE91> Grr....I was gonna say I could just SSH into the machine
[06:38] <jagcorvair> I wish I could do the same
[06:38] <FIRESIDE91> Do you know how to forward ports?
[06:39] <jagcorvair> Yes
[06:39] <jagcorvair> 22?
[06:39] <FIRESIDE91> Yup, do you have openssh-server installed?
[06:39] <chuy_max> hey, what happened with window menu in konqueror ?, this distro doesn't have that menu.
[06:40] <jagcorvair> I do now
[06:40] <FIRESIDE91> Feel comfortable with me on your account?
[06:42] <jagcorvair> FIRESIDE91: Yes. This is a new system.
[06:42] <Cannoli> !printer
[06:42] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:42] <jagcorvair> FIRESIDE91: I don't really care
[06:42] <flaccid> what is the policy on giving system access ?
[06:42] <flaccid> i wouldn't be giving anyone access to mine
[06:43] <FIRESIDE91> check me out on the forums if you don't trust me: username is netkid91
[06:43] <flaccid> and what does that establish?
[06:44] <Cannoli> !remotedesktop
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remotedesktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <FIRESIDE91> the fact that I do nothing but help people, hell, I'm a meber of bugsquad and ubuntu-gnome too :P
[06:44] <Cannoli> !remote desktop
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote desktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <flaccid> it doesn't establish anything...
[06:44] <Cannoli> hmmm can someone point me in a direction where i can get info on remote desktopping in linux?
[06:45] <FIRESIDE91> Cannoil, gnome and KDE both have vnc built in
[06:45] <chuy_max> Cannoli, search for vnc ?
[06:45] <flaccid> Cannoli: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[06:45] <jagcorvair> Cannoli: K Menu > Internet > Remote Desktop
[06:45] <Cannoli> oh ic
[06:45] <Cannoli> thanx
[06:45] <Cannoli> !vnc
[06:45] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[06:45] <FIRESIDE91> Kubuntu's remote desktop stuff is in System Settings
[06:46] <gridl0ck> !rdesktop
[06:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdesktop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <flaccid> if you need rdp support install rdesktop package
[06:46] <jza873> can someone help i cant figure out why i cant ping out from my machine
[06:46] <flaccid> rdp client that is
[06:47] <jza873> i keep serching but for every one else its their firewall or router
[06:47] <jza873> but thats not my case
[06:47] <jza873> im just so lost on it
[06:47] <flaccid> what happens when you ping?
[06:48] <jza873> it just never replys
[06:48] <flaccid> it sits on the next line doing nothing?
[06:49] <chuy_max> how can I add window menu to konqueror?, ubuntu removed that menu
[06:49] <jza873> exactly
[06:49] <flaccid> this is for pings to external hosts only ie. pinging internal is ok?
[06:49] <jza873> no
[06:49] <flaccid> all pings?
[06:49] <jza873> i can ping the lo but i cant ping anything beside that
[06:49] <jza873> yea
[06:49] <jza873> which is odd because all internet features work fine
[06:50] <flaccid> can you ping the ethernet interface's IP eg. <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[06:50] <jza873> nope
[06:50] <jza873> just sits
[06:50] <flaccid> right
[06:50] <flaccid> iptables working?
[06:50] <jza873> yea
[06:50] <flaccid> is there any firewall sorry
[06:50] <jza873> no firewall
[06:50] <jza873> just a router
[06:50] <flaccid> ok
[06:51] <mefisto__> chuy_max: right-click panel, add applet to panel..., add the window list menu
[06:51] <jza873> nwo you can see why im lost
[06:51] <jza873> i even hard coded everything
[06:53] <flaccid> you hard coded everything?
[06:53] <jza873> yea in the router
[06:53] <flaccid> this has nothing to do with the router
[06:53] <chuy_max> thx mefisto____, I changed the konqueror.rc file :)
[06:53] <flaccid> it doesn't do a hop to the router when pinging the local lan ipo
[06:53] <jza873> my ip for my devices will alwayse be the sme and i even put in a manual gateway in the network manager
[06:54] <flaccid> gateway is not required to ping
[06:54] <flaccid> not internally
[06:54] <flaccid> the ip address is also irrelevant.. now pastebin your ifconfig -a
[06:54] <Lega> Wow. I just switched my network to roaming mode, and it FUBAR'd everything... Had to reboot 5 times just to get the OS stable again. Wtf?
[06:55] <jza873> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:58:87:D0:C6
[06:55] <flaccid> lol
[06:56] <flaccid> pastebin > jza873
[06:56] <jza873>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:56] <jza873>           inet6 addr: fe80::215:58ff:fe87:d0c6/64 Scope:Link
[06:56] <jza873>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[06:56] <jza873>           RX packets:456820 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:1
[06:56] <flaccid> !pastebin > jza873
[06:56] <jza873>           TX packets:389265 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[06:56] <jza873>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[06:56] <jza873>           RX bytes:303037555 (288.9 MiB)  TX bytes:204755772 (195.2 MiB)
[06:56] <jza873>           Interrupt:18
[06:56] <jza873> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:16:CF:C5:7E:8E
[06:56] <jza873>           BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[06:56] <jza873>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[06:56] <jza873>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[06:56] <jza873>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[06:56] <jza873>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
[06:56] <jza873>           Interrupt:5
[06:56] <jza873> pastebin
[06:57] <jza873> ???
[06:57] <jza873> what
[06:57] <mefisto__> weee
[06:57] <flaccid> yes pastebin
[06:57] <jza873> whats that
[06:57] <flaccid> !pastebin | jza873
[06:57] <ubotu> jza873: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:57] <jza873> ok thansk
[06:57] <jza873> got it
[06:58] <jza873> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37660/
[06:58] <flaccid> also join ##networking they might be able to help yout there. don't know why myself why this would occur
[06:58] <jza873> thanks
[07:01] <flaccid> maybe it has something to do with the subnet mask or broadcast but i really have no idea sorry jza873
[07:02] <jza873> its kewl thanks any ways imma try the ##networking one
[07:10] <bigleon> i'm trying to watch a DVD, and my player is going on about copywright laws saying i can/cannot watch it
[07:11] <bigleon> is there a dvd player that won't hassle me?
[07:11] <Ryiel> !dvd | bigleon
[07:11] <ubotu> bigleon: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:14] <bigleon> The command "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh" says it's not found
[07:15] <hangthedj> bigleon, try 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh'
[07:16] <bigleon> still seems to be encrypted
[07:16] <bigleon> and that command looked to had run properly
[07:17] <bigleon> seems visual is still messed up but i can hear audio
[07:17] <hangthedj> just try 'sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2'
[07:18] <bigleon> says it's already up to date
[07:19] <stdin> restart your media player after libdvdcss is installed
[07:19] <bigleon> i did'
[07:19] <bigleon> completely exited out
[07:19] <bigleon> oh well it's just a comedy special XD i'm fine with just listening
[07:19] <hangthedj> what happens if you try to watch the dvd on kaffiene?
[07:20] <bigleon> i am watching on caffine
[07:20] <Lega> kaffiene doesn't like me or my computer.
[07:21] <Lega> VLC ftw.
[07:21] <hangthedj> try kmplayer, thats one of the first things i install on a new system.
[07:21] <hangthedj> i don't like vlc or kaffiene
[07:21] <Lega> I loathe kaffiene, I'm okay with VLC.
[07:26] <Lega> Whenever I switch my wireless to roaming mode, the whole computer seems to go crazy- Network won't open, nor Network Tools, and knetworkmanager sporadically will work on and off. The only stable point at which anything work is if I set up the connection manually, but I'd like to be able to roam for wireless. Anyone have any idea why Kubuntu is running so crazy whenever I set it to roaming mode?
[07:26] <Lega> Also... When I do set it to roaming mode, and knetworkmanager tries to connect to a wireless signal, it always, always gets stuck at the "configuring device" stage (28%), and goes no further. :\
[07:28] <Ryiel> bigleon: have youi installed xine-ui ?
[07:30] <bigleon> no
[07:31] <xsteelwolf> fire still there?
[07:31] <michael__> are there any mp3 to midi transcribers for linux?
[07:32] <hangthedj> michael__, i think timidity does midi to mp3, not sure about mp3 to midi
[07:32] <michael__> mp3 to midi needs some polyphonic recognition
[07:32] <Legato> Argh.
[07:33] <Legato> Well, it seems the Ubuntu IRC network hates my nick for some reason. Oh well.
[07:39] <judgen> Why does amarokapp use all my cpu runtime?
[07:39] <word> might be searching for things to add to it's library :-/
[07:40] <word> i forget what i had done but for some reason it flipped out when searching through my songs...
[07:40] <word> and it took up 100%
[07:40] <word> i think it was the folder/file names o.O or a file that wasn't a music file with a .mp3...
[07:42] <judgen> aah
[07:47] <word> judgen: that fix it?
[07:47] <flaccid> amarok does leak like that
[07:47] <flaccid> there is no ifx. amarok uses perl scripts and so forth which is the main reason. you can try to report bugs if you can pinpoint it..
[07:48] <word> flaccid: are they redoing that bit in 2.0?
[07:48] <flaccid> doub it
[07:48] <word> :(
[07:48] <flaccid> you can go to #amarok and maybe they will help identify what is leaking
[07:50] <michael__> what is the command to make a script executable
[07:50] <michael__> chmod what
[07:51] <xsteelwolf_> FIRE you there?
[07:52] <flaccid> michael__: chmod +x filename
[07:52] <hangthedj> michael__, chmod +x script
[08:07] <flaccid> hydra ouch thats windows
[08:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> i can cope with windows users coming by
[08:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> hopefully they're getting a feel for the other users of the os before making the switch themselves
[08:11] <judgen> it was a song in windows mp4 format After i removed it everything went smoothly
[08:12] <judgen> haha is there any point to kibadock?
[08:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> as a dock, sure, as an excercise in environmental physics, no.
[08:14] <ubuntu><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:14] <ubuntu> esta alguien conectado
[08:15] <ubuntu> hola
[08:15] <stdin> !es
[08:15] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:15] <ubuntu> porfavor conteste
[08:15] <ubuntu> grcias
[08:15] <ubuntu> solo estaba probando pues soy nuevo en esto
[08:15] <ubuntu> gracias
[08:16] <flaccid> i think my point was more that hydra only makes for windows
[08:16] <judgen> !se
[08:16] <Mr_Sonoma> !es | ubuntu
[08:16] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[08:16] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:17] <ubuntu> hola
[08:17] <ubuntu> que tal
[08:18] <ubuntu> soy nuevo alguin puede responder
[08:19] <holycow> man
[08:19] <holycow> the new gutsy monitor autodetection feature is amazing
[08:19] <judgen> anyone got the cartoon userfriendly in a tar somewhere?
[08:19] <holycow> plug in my umps to any monitor and i get the monitors specific resolution options
[08:19] <holycow> this is amazing
[08:19] <Mr_Sonoma> gutsy slowed my machine too much, must have some considerably bigger memory requirements.
[08:20] <Mr_Sonoma> but it looked very very nice from what little i seen
[08:27] <dhq> which is the best gui antivirus and firewall for kubuntu
[08:28] <stdin> antivirus? none, don't need it. firewall, don't know if it's the best but guarddog is good
[08:29] <coreymon77> dhq: youre new to linux arent you?
[08:29] <dhq> coreymon77, well its been a year
[08:30] <coreymon77> dhq: then dont you know by now that linux dont need those things?
[08:30] <dhq> coreymon77, well i know there arent any viruses for linux that are big but i run a server so i dont want to take risk
[08:30] <dotz> anyone knows how to type in a link in bash eg: wget ftp://!@#:#$%@123.123.123://download.zip ? where username is "!@#" and password is "#$%"..need the regular expression in order to input those characters..
[08:30] <Igorot> guarddog blocks ssmtp and pop3s... so if you're using gmail, i suggest you use another.
[08:30] <stdin> dotz: use quotes, wget "ftp://!@#:#$%@123.123.123://download.zip" or wget 'ftp://!@#:#$%@123.123.123://download.zip'
[08:31] <Igorot> dhq: if you have windows pcs connected, then you'll need an anti-virus, to protect the windows pc, not linux
[08:31] <dhq> Igorot, well i want a program like zonealarm
[08:31] <coreymon77> who cares about the windows pc
[08:31] <stdin> windows pc should have their own AV software anyway
[08:31] <coreymon77> let it get infected and rot so that you have an excuse to put linux on it! :P
[08:31] <Igorot> dhq: my system is a server, and im running firestarter... no AV
[08:32] <coreymon77> what, nobodys gonna laugh at my joke?
[08:32] <dotz> stdin: it seems to say Resolving<EMAIL_ADDRESS>failed: Host not found..
[08:32] <dotz> stdin: seems like having problem with the '#'
[08:32] <dhq> Igorot, well what all protocols does it block
[08:32] <Igorot> coreymon77: hehe..
[08:33] <Igorot> dhq: by default all, you need to set policies
[08:33] <dotz> is there a special escape character  or something
[08:33] <dhq> Igorot, oh ok its a gui rite
[08:33] <Igorot> yes
[08:33] <dhq> !firestarter
[08:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:33] <stdin> dotz: you can try with --user= and --password=
[08:33] <Igorot> if you dont want a gui, then try fwbuilder
[08:33] <dhq> Igorot, i use kde
[08:33] <Igorot> or get down and dirty with iptables
[08:34] <Igorot> dhq: i do too, but i find firestarter better than guarddog or even shorewall
[08:34] <Mr_Sonoma> dhq then type sudo apt-get install guarddog in your konsole window to install the gui for the iptables firewall in linux
[08:35] <Igorot> the firewall is a personal preference really.. all of them have the same basic feature, it's what you want that really matters
[08:35] <Igorot> i suggest you try a few, and pick what you think is best for your system
[08:35] <dotz> stdin: think wget can only specify http-user and http-passwd .. but my link was ftp... :(
[08:35] <dhq> Mr_Sonoma, well i heard guarddog blocks gmail and pop3
[08:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> dotz: so...  use ftp
[08:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> :)
[08:36] <stdin> dotz: I'm pretty sure it can do ftp-user too
[08:37] <Igorot> dhq: no, just pop3s and ssmtp.. as long as it's using TLS and SSL, it blocks it
[08:37] <stdin> dotz: --user is global, --http-user is for http and --ftp-user is for ftp
[08:37] <Igorot> there's already a bug filed for it
[08:37] <dhq> Igorot, well i do use it
[08:37] <Igorot> yeah, personal preference.. heh!
[08:42] <stdin> dotz: " wget --user='!@#' --password='#$%' ftp://123.123.123/download.zip " should work
[08:44] <zipper> got to love that syntax
[08:44] <zipper> so easy to read for people who havent got bash programming experience =)
[08:49] <xsteelwolf_> anyone on intel 4965agn
[08:53] <gundam_rx78nt1> Hello.
[08:54] <zipper> morning
[08:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> I was playing around with my kde login settings and now I get the standard kde login page. how can I get the nice kubuntu login page back?
[08:56] <zipper> menu -> System settings -> Splash screen
[08:56] <Doctor_Nick> does anyone know how to turn on repeating keys again
[08:56] <Doctor_Nick> the cat walked on my key board  and pushed some buttons, now i have no idea how to turn them back on again
[08:57] <Ryiel> Doctor_Nick: Banish the cat :D
[08:57] <zipper> Doctor_Nick, my guess would be in menu -> system settings -> accessibility
[08:57] <gundam_rx78nt1> zipper: I tried that. it will give me the nice splash screen but not the login page.
[08:58] <zipper> gundam_rx78nt1, ah, login page, right. Hang on
[08:59] <Doctor_Nick> zipper: no, dont see anything
[08:59] <zipper> gundam_rx78nt1, run 'kcontrol'. System administration -> KDM Theme manager
[08:59] <zipper> Doctor_Nick, i didnt find anything either, but i would believe it was inthere =/
[09:00] <contrast83> Does anyone know what would cause MPlayer to not show up as an option for the player engine in Kaffeine? I'm pretty sure I've got all the relevant packages installed.
[09:00] <coreymon77> gundam_rx78nt1: try opening kontrol center
[09:00] <coreymon77> gundam_rx78nt1: that usually has a few more options than system settings
[09:01] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok, I am in kcontrol and in the System administration section. I don't see a kdm theme manager.
[09:02] <contrast83> gundam_rx78nt1: Run "sudo apt-get install kdmtheme"
[09:02] <zipper> gundam_rx78nt1, hmm? You're using kubuntu right?
[09:02] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok, hold on.
[09:02] <contrast83> zipper: You know that's not installed by default, right?
[09:02] <zipper> contrast83, but how could he manage to change his kdm theme without it?
[09:03] <zipper> which is his problem, he wants it back to default
[09:03] <contrast83> zipper: Ermm... Manually. ;-)
[09:03] <gundam_rx78nt1> I am installing the kdm theme manager. zipper. I just found out what I did.
[09:03] <gundam_rx78nt1> I deleted an xml file.
[09:03] <zipper> contrast83, eek, yeah i guess. My bad.
[09:04] <contrast83> Heh, np
[09:04] <zipper> gundam_rx78nt1, dele... but why? Oh well, the kdmtheme package should get you up and running again
[09:04] <zipper> i guess
[09:05] <Doctor_Nick> what
[09:05] <contrast83> gundam_rx78nt1: You might need to run "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-default-settings" if you deleted the default theme's xml file
[09:05] <zipper> what what?
[09:05] <Doctor_Nick> there's a limit to how many channels you can join
[09:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> contrast83, it's back up and running.
[09:05] <zipper> contrast83, wont that reset a lot of settings that doesnt need resetting?
[09:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> thanks to the both of you (zipper & contrast83).
[09:06] <contrast83> zipper: No, it installs to /, not /home ;-)
[09:06] <contrast83> gundam_rx78nt1: np
[09:06] <gundam_rx78nt1> g83iVG4u
[09:06] <zipper> np
[09:06] <zipper> That reminds me
[09:08] <zipper> Some time ago, i received some updates and after installing them my KDM Login screen looks messed up. Like it's zoomed in, and i can "scroll" by moving the curser to the edges of the screen. When i've logged in however, there is no problems. What could be causing this?
[09:09] <gundam_rx78nt1> zipper, what video driver do you have?
[09:09] <zipper> 'nvidia'
[09:09] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok, when you look at your xorg.conf,
[09:09] <gundam_rx78nt1> give me a moment, let me look at mine to tell you how to fix it.
[09:11] <gundam_rx78nt1> In the section display, you should see a couple of resolution settings.
[09:11] <contrast83> zipper: Do you see anything like "Virtual screen size" in your xorg.conf?
[09:11] <zipper> gundam_rx78nt1, looking at it now... Hmm, i seem to have all these "modeline"'s under my monitor DEVICE. They contain resolutions it seems.
[09:11] <zipper> contrast83, i do... under section "screen"
[09:12] <gundam_rx78nt1> Yes, I do. change the virtual screen size to your screen resolution, I commented mine and then remove all of the other resolutions under the display section leaving only the one I want for my desktop (1280x800)
[09:12] <contrast83> zipper: Running a TV as a monitor?
[09:12] <zipper> Virtual 1600 1200 (makes sense, default res is 1280x1024, so 1600x1200 would be zoomed). The line under it says modes "1280x1024@60 1280...."
[09:13] <zipper> no, regular 19" lcd monitor
[09:13] <zipper> brb
[09:13] <zipper> will try removing virtual thinige
[09:13] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok, comment the virtual portion and remove anything after the 1280x1024@60 (if that is the default resoloution you want).
[09:14] <contrast83> yeah, that's what i had to do as well.
[09:15] <gundam_rx78nt1> man, I went through 4 hours of looking on the net to find that fix.
[09:15] <zipper> yey
[09:15] <zipper> worked
[09:15] <gundam_rx78nt1> great. now we are even :)
[09:15] <zipper> =D
[09:16] <zipper> should've thought of that myself, but didnt know virtual desktop was still being used.... i mean, whats the purpose?
[09:16] <gundam_rx78nt1> I don't know.
[09:16] <zipper> i have never ever seen anyone using it
[09:16] <gundam_rx78nt1> but it has been a default for a time now.
[09:16] <zipper> without wanting not to anyway =P
[09:17] <gundam_rx78nt1> that is what we get for proprietary drivers.
[09:17] <gundam_rx78nt1> but I will take an nvidia over ati in linux any day.
[09:20] <zipper> uhm
[09:20] <zipper> yeah probably
[09:21] <zipper> although gundam_rx78nt1, AMD/Ati has announced to release open-source drivers (!)
[09:21] <zipper> i cant remember any dates though
[09:21] <zipper> but it might make me consider getting ATI next time i buy a gfx-card
[09:21] <gundam_rx78nt1> true, that we will have to see. native drivers will work wonderfully. Hope nvidia follows suit also.
[09:22] <zipper> Yeah, thats what i'm hoping as well
[09:23] <zipper> and imho, there is no real reason not to... I mean, i really doubt their competitors will benefit that much from seeing the drivers
[09:23] <gundam_rx78nt1> I'm trying to customize my laptop with linux to make my 'friends' with vista envy.
[09:23] <gundam_rx78nt1> true.
[09:23] <zipper> =)
[09:23] <contrast83> i read a pretty good article on that issue over at phoronix.com. one of the x.org devs they talked to explained pretty thoroughly that nvidia doesn't have much reason to follow suit, given the reasons AMD had for their recent move
[09:23] <zipper> compiz.... aero-killer #1 =)
[09:24] <zipper> contrast83, oh? Sounds interesting. Why not follow?
[09:24] <gundam_rx78nt1> how does compiz work now? I tried it a while back and my system crashed every 15 minutes or so.
[09:24] <zipper> gundam_rx78nt1, same here, but i've got a friend who installed it recently, runs like a charm
[09:24] <hangthedj> gundam_rx78nt1, i had the same problem, but it works good now.
[09:24] <zipper> and he's not THAT linux savvy, although he has some experience
[09:25] <hangthedj> actually, on my desktop which is old, it doesn't work anymore, but on my laptop which is very new, it works great.
[09:27] <zipper> sigh, i have that problem with my laptop. Apparently ACPI and linux doesnt work well on it. Every other thing i was able to fix, but i kind of need having some kind of power control, since its a laptop and all =/
[09:27] <contrast83> zipper: I don't remember all the details, but it had something to do with how AMD does processors and the specs they just released on their graphic cards are needed to make them play well with said processors, I *think*.
[09:27] <zipper> contrast83, makes sense, although i dont completely buy it.... Oh well, time will tell
[09:27] <contrast83> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=838&num=2
[09:28] <zipper> should rather be installing and configuring fluxbox instead of reading all that =)
[09:28] <contrast83> Hehe
[09:28] <rrbiz> is there an apt command to remove all archives?
[09:29] <jussi01> apt-cache clean IIRC
[09:29] <zipper> rrbiz, to remove everything? You really want that?
[09:29] <hangthedj> does anybody know how to fix usplash if its just showing a blank screen?  i've tried --reinstall, and dpkg-reconfigure on usplash usplash...kubuntu-theme and libusplash.  It hasn't worked since my first upgrade on edgy.
[09:29] <rrbiz> i've got almost 1 gig in archives
[09:29] <contrast83> apt-get clean
[09:29] <zipper> !fluxbox
[09:29] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[09:30] <rrbiz> contrast83: cool that did it
[09:30] <contrast83> rrbiz: Getting low on HD space?
[09:30] <hangthedj> !usplash
[09:31] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[09:31] <rrbiz> just don't have that much space as i have a dual boot setup and can't spare too much on this partion
[09:31] <contrast83> rrbiz: You might also want to make sure you don't have any old kernels that you're no longer using installed
[09:32] <zipper> contrast83, haha.... i spent 2 hours the other day debugging X and KDM to figure out why i could not login only to realize i had 0kb space available on /
[09:32] <rrbiz> contrast83: yeah i do, u know the command or howto remove them ?
[09:32] <zipper> =/
[09:32] <RurouniJones> zipper: Yea I had that before :(
[09:32] <jussi01> Could someone tell me how to make a lineart picture from a photo (in gimp or someother program)?
[09:33] <RurouniJones> Wish it would give you a hint instead of dying abruptly
[09:33] <zipper> RurouniJones, yeah it would be nice... but now i know what to check for next time it happends
[09:34] <rrbiz> it's good to keep track how much HD space ur at basically
[09:34] <greencookie> Does anyone else use the netgear adapter?
[09:34] <contrast83> rrbiz: "dpkg --get-selections | grep linux" then "sudo apt-get autoremove --purge linux-image-<version-number>-generic
[09:34] <zipper> yeah... but noone does that rrbiz  =P
[09:35] <zipper> at least, not anyone with 500+gb
[09:35] <rrbiz> lol wow i prob wouldn't either
[09:35] <zipper> i know you should, but gah
[09:35] <zipper> one would think with 500gb, you never have to clean up... but you do =/
[09:36] <greencookie> Hi linux newb here. Just wondering what your computer specs are.
[09:36] <greencookie> 250gb here
[09:36] <zipper> d'oh
[09:36] <contrast83> rrbiz: that first command just shows the packages installed that have linux in the name, so you'd obviously just want to look at the output of that to see which version you want to remove (i.e., the older one)
[09:36] <zipper> just uninstalled my system spec scripts
[09:37] <jussi01> !offtopic | greencookie
[09:37] <ubotu> greencookie: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:37] <rrbiz> contrast83: would i then need to clean up my menu.lst afterwards myself ?
[09:37] <coreymon77> zipper: you are just a walking disaster trap system breaker arent you
[09:37] <greencookie> thanks ubotu
[09:37] <contrast83> rrbiz: nope, that's automagic, i believe.
[09:38] <jussi01> !bot | greencookie
[09:38] <zipper> lol coreymon77 ... Thats a bit harsh =P
[09:38] <rrbiz> contrast83: ok thnx let me try this stuff
[09:38] <ubotu> greencookie: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:38] <coreymon77> zipper: not reallu
[09:38] <contrast83> rrbiz: np
[09:38] <greencookie> oh lol. thanks jussi01
[09:38] <greencookie> sry. new to all this:)
[09:38] <coreymon77> zipper: its just that every time we hear form you its, doh! i just messed up something else!
[09:39] <zipper> =/
[09:39] <zipper> it's true
[09:39] <greencookie> !bot | jussi01
[09:39] <ubotu> jussi01: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:39] <zipper> luckily these days, it (almost) never anything important =)
[09:39] <jussi01> !botabuse > greencookie
[09:39] <jussi01>  :)
[09:40] <coreymon77> zipper: almost
[09:40] <coreymon77> well
[09:40] <gundam_rx78nt1> isn't that the reason we are here, to laugh at each other and their problems, ohh, did I say laugh, I really meant to help. really, honestly...
[09:40] <zipper> coreymon77, but cmon... i had the system info script for 3 months without anyone ever asking me for system specs. I uninstalled it yesterday and what happens? Today someone asks for system stats =/
[09:40] <coreymon77> its time for bed
[09:40] <coreymon77> gnight everyone
[09:41] <gundam_rx78nt1>  gnight.
[09:41] <coreymon77> zipper: such is life eh?
[09:41] <zipper> i guess =/
[09:41] <greencookie> good night.
[09:41] <zipper> good night i guess?
[09:41] <zipper> heh
[09:41] <zipper> still morning for me
[09:42] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok, I am back on the clock now. I have to work until 10:00am. I have 8.25 hours left.
[09:42] <coreymon77> i know, but its 3:42 in the morning here
[09:42] <zipper> =D
[09:42] <zipper> time zones will always entertain me
[09:42] <zipper> 9:42 here
[09:42] <gundam_rx78nt1> you in the west coast zipper?
[09:43] <greencookie> 2:40a.
[09:43] <zipper> gundam_rx78nt1, closer to Denmark, Europe really
[09:43] <jussi01> @now helsinki
[09:43] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Helsinki: September 17 2007, 10:43:25 - Next meeting: IRC Council in 4 hours 16 minutes
[09:43] <coreymon77> and as i leave, i leave you all with the timezone discussion
[09:43] <coreymon77> zipper: get with it!
[09:43] <greencookie> can anyone help me find why my internet connection dies every 15 mins but in windows its fine and stable?
[09:43] <zipper> =)
[09:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> oh, I thought you said you had 9.42 hours ...
[09:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> sorry, my bad.
[09:43] <zipper> greencookie, wireless or wired?
[09:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> Denmark, man I miss Europe.
[09:44] <greencookie> zipper: wireless
[09:44] <zipper> gundam_rx78nt1, hehe, college here mate... No nazi SS-dude calling me names when i dont meet at 8:00
[09:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> greencookie, what wireless card do you have?
[09:44] <greencookie> lol
[09:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> lol.
[09:44] <greencookie> gundam_rx78nt1: netgear usb adapter.
[09:45] <zipper> gundam_rx78nt1, i like it here.... We have our ups and downs, but i guess everyone does
[09:45] <gundam_rx78nt1> did you update to the latest madwifi drivers?
[09:45] <gundam_rx78nt1> I lived in Hiedelberg for 3 years.
[09:45] <zipper> Thats holland right?
[09:45] <greencookie> um... no. how can I do that?:)
[09:46] <gundam_rx78nt1> Germany.
[09:46] <stdin> !ot | gundam_rx78nt, zipper
[09:46] <ubotu> gundam_rx78nt, zipper: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:46] <zipper> sorry
[09:46] <jussi01> hehe
[09:46] <gundam_rx78nt1> my bad. back to work.
[09:46] <zipper> greencookie, if you're using WPA encryption, you could, for debugging, try using un-encrypted and see if that is stable
[09:47] <hangthedj> anybody know a good backup tool for kubuntu?
[09:47] <zipper> or even WEP
[09:47] <tuco> Hello all. I can't move a downloaded theme to /usr/shar/apps/kdm/themes. Why's that?
[09:47] <jussi01> !backup
[09:47] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:47] <greencookie> theres no password on my wifi if thats what u mean.. i cant use uuntu to connect to a secured wireless.
[09:47] <greencookie> ubuntu*
[09:47] <zipper> greencookie, hmm i see
[09:47] <stdin> tuco: because you don't have permissions to do that
[09:48] <tuco> Ah!
[09:48] <tuco> How can I do it Stdin?
[09:48] <greencookie> zipper: the net connection is very unpredictable..i get disconnected often.
[09:48] <stdin> tuco: you can normally install themes with the theme installer, from the kdmtheme package
[09:48] <tuco> I can't...
[09:48] <zipper> greencookie, What driver do you use for your network card? You might want to consider using ndiswrapper instead
[09:48] <stdin> !changethemes | tuco
[09:48] <ubotu> tuco: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[09:49] <tuco> It's all greyed out
[09:49] <zipper> tuco, click the "Administrator mode" button
[09:49] <stdin> see that last link
[09:49] <tuco> it's not there
[09:49] <contrast83> tuco: Run this from a terminal: "sudo apt-get install kdmtheme"
[09:49] <zipper> =/
[09:49] <contrast83> tuco: That'll give you a GUI in System Settings/Control Center for changing the KDM theme
[09:49] <greencookie> zipper: erm, I dont know the command to look up the network driver :P:P
[09:49] <tuco> trying now
[09:50] <zipper> greencookie, neither do i... I'll assume you have the default driver then?
[09:50] <rrbiz> contrast83: kool i removed more than 300megs of old kernel packages
[09:50] <greencookie> yep. this is my setup of ubuntu out of the box.
[09:50] <zipper> greencookie, try running 'lspci' to find out the name of your network card
[09:50] <tuco> already installed Stdin
[09:50] <greencookie> i havent tweaked around with anything (maybe cuz i dont know how to:))
[09:50] <greencookie> ok sec.
[09:50] <stdin> tuco: then read the last link ubotu gave you
[09:51] <zipper> rrbiz, oh really? Got a good guide for removing old kernel images? I need to do that as well
[09:51] <rrbiz> zipper: scroll up contrast83 gave me the steps
[09:51] <zipper> rrbiz, okay must've missed it. Thanks
[09:51] <contrast83> zipper: "dpkg --get-selections | grep linux" then "sudo apt-get autoremove --purge linux-image-<version-number>-generic"
[09:52] <greencookie> zipper: Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX
[09:54] <rrbiz> i had almost gave up on samba yesterday trying to share an ntfs drive, then found u have to add smbusers, works great now
[09:54] <tuco> Stdin I in am in the theme manager but can't see any admin priviledges to click on
[09:55] <rrbiz> gnome and kde network sharing don't really help much with that
[09:55] <contrast83> tuco: KDM Theme Manager?
[09:55] <zipper> contrast83, got it, thanks. 200mb for me =)
[09:55] <contrast83> zipper: np
[09:55] <stdin> tuco: you have to run kcontrol as root, with "kdesu kcontrol"
[09:55] <tuco> Yes
[09:55] <contrast83> Erm, no you don't... At least, I never did.
[09:56] <stdin> to edit kdm's theme you do, there's no user themes, just system wide
[09:56] <stdin> so it need root, and there's no admin button
[09:57] <zipper> greencookie, dont have much experience with that broadcom, but i have a BCM43xx myself. There is a driver in the repositories for that one, but doubt it would work on your card. Besides, on my card it didnt work out too well. I'm out of ideas, tried to find a guide on the wiki for your network card (or even just for your laptop (if it is a laptop))? Otherwise google can sometimes help you find a guide, although they might be out-dated
[09:57] <stdin> contrast83: in feisty?
[09:57] <stdin> zipper: lspci won't show usb devices...
[09:57] <tuco> There is something odd here. What to choose to install the kdm theme, you know the one with the log in and password. I can't see it now
[09:57] <contrast83> stdin: Gutsy at the moment, but I 110% clearly remember it being there when I used Feisty. Did they change that in a recent update?
[09:58] <zipper> stdin, i took a chance =)
[09:58] <stdin> contrast83: I know there is one in gutsy, but don't think there was in feisty. I haven't used festy for months tho
[09:59] <tuco> Let's say I want to install this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/the+linux+force+widescreen+1280x800?content=57385
[10:00] <tuco> Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah I found it
[10:00] <contrast83> stdin: Any idea why they have KDM themes disabled by default in Gutsy?
[10:01] <stdin> contrast83: they are disabled by default in all releases. so it uses the default
[10:01] <zipper> I've found a guide for installing fluxbox, but it assumes you're using GDM. Anyone know how to add fluxbox to the 'section selection' in KDM?
[10:02] <contrast83> stdin: No, I mean the override files that make it so changes made in KDM Theme Manager will have no effect
[10:02] <stdin> zipper: fluxbox should just work once installed, as long as you choose it in KDM
[10:02] <zipper> auto-magicly... Nice. Thanks
[10:02] <stdin> contrast83: ahh, you'd have to ask in #kubuntu-devel about that
[10:03] <contrast83> Oh ok. Thanks
[10:03] <tuco> So basically the only way is to type kdesu kcontrol to be able to get to the theme manager?
[10:04] <stdin> tuco: if there's no Administrator button, yeah. for now
[10:04] <tuco> is this a bug in Edgy?
[10:04] <tuco> will it be corrected in Gutsy?
[10:04] <contrast83> tuco: Already is
[10:04] <stdin> it already is
[10:05] <zipper> Hmm, for some reason i have two "fluxbox" entries in my kdm sessions menu?
[10:05] <tuco> so can't I change directly from the system settings then?
[10:05] <hangthedj> anybody have a backup *favorite*?
[10:06] <contrast83> hangthedj: Yeah. Mine is having seperate partitions for /home and /, and just keeping a script in /home/mike/.BACKUP that will set everything in / back to how I want it upon reinstalling.
[10:07] <hangthedj> contrast83, thats my favorite too, but this system was installed when edgy was beta, and i knew nothing about linux.
[10:08] <contrast83> hangthedj: So no seperate partitions?
[10:08] <hangthedj> nope, not on this box.
[10:08] <tuco> Ok anyway guys thanks for the help and have a great day.
[10:09] <xsteelwolf> http://pastebin.com/m5a997c37 can anyone tell me what's wrong
[10:10] <contrast83> hangthedj: What I would do is pop in a live CD, mount the hard drive, and delete *everything* except the stuff in your /home folders that you want to keep. Rename /home to whatever (as long as it's not the name of an actual folder under /), and just reinstall, creating seperate partitions this time (just don't format the one your old stuff is on, obviously)
[10:11] <contrast83> hangthedj: Do you know the dpkg --get-selections/set-selections magic?
[10:14] <stdin> !clone
[10:14] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[10:15] <contrast83> !automate
[10:15] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[10:17] <hangthedj> contrast83, that is a beautiful idea, thank you very much.
[10:19] <contrast83> hangthedj: np. i was forced into doing that when i borked grub, and i was praying it would work the whole time, as i hadn't read of it anywhere. just went out on a limb.
[10:19] <contrast83> hangthedj: i *think* the permissions won't be preserved though. that's the only catch.
[10:23] <rrbiz> safest thing is commonaly using partimage to create complete backups on another partition or external sources media or net
[10:23] <zolder> is there a way to set up kubuntu from local iso image?
[10:23] <stdin> !install
[10:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[10:23] <zolder> like using usb-flash card?
[10:24] <stdin> read that 1st link, it'll tell you
[10:24] <zolder> I've looked through them already...
[10:25] <stdin> so you've seen the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick one ?
[10:26] <zolder> yeah
[10:26] <zolder> 2 points my flash is small
[10:29] <zolder> so I'm looking for a smaller image - just to boot from flash and then point the way to an image on hdd
[10:30] <zolder> something like in suse
[10:36] <Zvezdichko> hello, I'd lie to run the wizard ( the wizard when you install KDE ) again
[10:36] <Zvezdichko> what was the command
[10:37] <emilsedgh> Zvezdichko: kpersonalizer
[10:38] <Zvezdichko> maybe... because Linux should be as heavy as Windows Shitta :)
[10:39] <bentob0x> in Konqueror: how do you open all 'branches' when you are on Tree View?
[10:40] <emilsedgh> KDE 3 is heavier than KDE 4 :)
[10:40] <bentob0x> in Windows, you can use the * to open everything in the windows explorer
[10:40] <xsteelwolf> make: *** [compatible/kversion]  Error 1
[10:40] <xsteelwolf> what is this error
[10:44] <stdin> xsteelwolf: means make failed, some error in the code maybe
[11:31] <shriphani> is there any software I can use to communicate with my hp 50g calculator ?
[11:57] <kraut> moin
[11:57] <sylvester_> moin
[12:08] <X1398> hi
[12:08] <Tautoa> Morning :)
[12:09] <X1398> does anyone know how i could reboot in linux from vista
[12:09] <X1398> (without setting grubs default to linux)
[12:10] <Tautoa> What do you mean? Like, you're in Vista, and you want to give it a command to reboot straight to Linux?
[12:11] <X1398> yeah
[12:11] <Tautoa> I've never heard of a way... so either setting linux as default or picking it from GRUB manually, I guess?
[12:12] <X1398> may be setting the default in grub via script to another point, but how to set it back in linux when bootet?
[12:14] <X1398> other question i've got a dvd(css secured ^^) and want to play the content, i thought vlc would do it but it crashes (v0.8.6)
[12:14] <Tautoa> I'm just guessing now, but you could probably get Linux to check whichever file the GRUB menu is kept in, and make sure that it has Vista as default, with a script that runs on startup. I don't think you could use a script to boot Linux from Vista though
[12:15] <ardchoille> IS there a kde equivalent for the gimp?
[12:15] <X1398> yeah gimp
[12:15] <X1398> xD
[12:15] <Tautoa> Ardchoille: not heard of one, I use GIMP anyways :)
[12:16] <stuart_> Can somebody tell me what happens if I install something that isn't in a repository? Im used to synaptic looking after updates and stuff.
[12:16] <ardchoille> The only trouble with gimp is when using baghira, the gimp ui goes all black
[12:17] <X1398> stuart_:  what do u want to install?
[12:17] <stuart_> X1398: It's just a general inquiry. Want to understand the implications before (say) I install Adobe Acrobat
[12:17] <X1398> ardchoille: ive heard of something ill search it but this'll take a few min?
[12:18] <X1398> stuart_:  may be u'll find a equivalent to Adobe xD
[12:19] <ardchoille> X1398: Ah, ok.. much appreciated :)
[12:20] <stuart_> X1398: Silly example. But I'm assuming that if I install something "manually" that synaptic can't track it's dependecies nor any updates even if it is an offical binary from say Adobe?
[12:20] <X1398> ardchoille: found: Lightzone - www.lightcrafts.com
[12:21] <X1398> stuart_:  sure
[12:22] <X1398> stuart_:  may be u'll've to istall some apps with aptitude to get the depencies and updates
[12:22] <ardchoille> X1398: Thanks, but it's not OS and it's not in the repos.
[12:22] <Tautoa> Ardchoille: is there not an option to get GTK apps to use your KDE theme?
[12:23] <stuart_> X1398: OK, so it's something to be avoided. Becuase the security updates etc. delivered via Synaptic are useful. Can it introduce problems with the software that is already installed (eg. use a new version of some library and therefore break existing stuff)?
[12:23] <stuart_> X1398: Aptitude is similar to synaptic right? Are you saying that i can use that to install (and then track) stuff?
[12:23] <X1398> stuart_:  apt is able to do it right i think, but manually install something that u dont know about is crazy
[12:24] <jussi01> !info krita | ardchoille
[12:24] <ubotu> ardchoille: krita: a pixel-based image manipulation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu1.1 (feisty), package size 3043 kB, installed size 9412 kB
[12:24] <ardchoille> jussi01: That's the one I was thinking of, thanks
[12:24] <stuart_> X1398: What if it's from a reputable vendor? Say the Adobe's of this world?
[12:24] <jussi01> ardchoille: :)
[12:25] <jussi01> stuart_: I think medibuntu has acrobat
[12:25] <stuart_> X1398: Opera for example is not in the repositories that are enabled by default
[12:25] <jussi01> !medibuntu
[12:25] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[12:25] <X1398> yeah medibuntu could do this
[12:25] <ardchoille> Tautoa: Yes, but gimp doesn't seem to play well with some of them
[12:25] <stuart_> is medibuntu to be trusted?
[12:25] <jussi01> !seveas
[12:25] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - And he's getting married!
[12:26] <jussi01> stuart_: medibuntu is pretty good, yes
[12:26] <neville__> I just stumbled into here ... I didnt even know it was on my machine ,
[12:27] <stuart_> jussi01: ok thanks
[12:27] <jussi01> :)
[12:27] <neville__> I dont know how I got it started or how to get out of it ...
[12:27] <jussi01> neville__: ?
[12:28] <Tautoa> Neville__: what program are you using?
[12:28] <X1398> anyone knows a way to play css crypted dvds in kubuntu with vlc media player v0.8.6?
[12:28] <neville__> kubuntu
[12:28] <jussi01> !dvd | X1398
[12:28] <ubotu> X1398: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:29] <neville__> I do know I stuffed around with my settings and lost my msn cnnection
[12:29] <Tautoa> I mean, which IRC program?
[12:29] <jussi01> sounds like kopete
[12:29] <neville__> yup .. kopete
[12:29] <niels_> Hmm.... For some weird reason konqueror doesn't work in gutsy. It says can't connect, for all websites. I have network connectivity.
[12:30] <Tautoa> I'm using Kopete... not sure how you could accidently wind up here tho :)
[12:30] <neville__> where you from ?
[12:30] <neville__> I'm in New Zealand
[12:30] <Tautoa> UK?
[12:30] <neville__> top of the south island
[12:31] <Tautoa> I don't know why I used a question mark there...
[12:31] <jussi01> !offtopic
[12:31] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:32] <Tautoa> Jussi01: thanks, only been using IRC since last night, I'll figure out what I'm doing soon
[12:32] <Ribena007> morning
[12:33] <jussi01> Tautoa: :)
[12:33] <maverick> "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready" sometimes i get this msg from the kernel when i try to connect to wireless net... and i can't connect until i restart..any ideas?
[12:34] <X1398> ist the adept better than synaptic packet mang.?
[12:35] <Tautoa> X1398, both do the same job, methinks, just pick which one you prefer
[12:35] <jussi01> X1398: no, its the same, but kde....
[12:38] <neville__> how do I load my msn back into kopete?
[12:39] <jussi01> neville__: you may just have to sign in again - is there a msn icon at the bottom?