[20:30] <ezekiel_> hello i am new to the linux community, but i am very happy and excited to join the family.  i installed "julinux" and i just have a question? anyone using julinux?
[20:31] <mattmatteh> RootLUG: i have never used extended partitions.   i have mounted gentoo without any problems before
[20:31] <shcherbak> RootLUG: is it LiveCD, and what partitions are mounted?
[20:31] <mk4>  Can anyone help me get XplanetFX to work with compiz config and the ubuntu cube on 10.10?
[20:32] <marcoux> je sais pas trop bien, je suis nouveau dans la communauté ubuntu
[20:32] <besogon> shcherbak: Didn't help. I press Alt-F8 and see as the arrow changes to the hand and as soon I move it the pointer again is the arrow
[20:32] <RootLUG> shcherbak: I don't have mounted any partition. I have /dev/sda1 with Win XP, /dev/sdb1 is swap, /dev/sdb2 is extended which contains /dev/sdb5 for data and /dev/sdb6 is root system
[20:33] <[segfault]> !fr | marcoux
[20:33] <iflema> besogon: hold alt + left click and move around
[20:34] <RootLUG> mattmatteh: I'm noob, I want to try gentoo, I have installed grub2 and looking for some utility like update-grub to automatically generate grub.cfg but I didn't find, now I'm trying to generate it via Ubuntu. :-)
[20:34] <intrader> Anyone, how can I solve my problem with fan allways
[20:34] <nephlin> !rules
[20:36] <nephlin> newbie salute from colombia
[20:36] <iflema> RootLUG: mkconfig-grub is almost as goodas update-grub ;)
[20:36] <KM0201> RootLUG: virtualbox is a lot easier way to try new versions of Linux.
[20:36] <shcherbak> RootLUG: try mount sdb2
[20:36] <RootLUG> iflema: but it didn't find my kernel image
[20:37] <RootLUG> shcherbak: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb2,
[20:37] <marcoux> you could install the version of ubuntu in first and after install windows with three hard disks
[20:37] <dumont> so I have a folder with permission user1:groupabc, user2 is part of groupabc, how do I force all the saved files made by user2 in this folder to have chmod and chown permission of the parent folder? like to keep 0770 and user2:groupabc
[20:37] <Bennage> shcherbak: Opera is failing as well
[20:37] <RootLUG> KM0201: I know but I want to learn somethink
[20:38] <dumont> in fact, how do I do this automatically wihtout having to manually setup permissions for each created file?
[20:38] <Bennage> shcherbak:  If I play a vid from Youtube, I can hear the first second of audio, while the screen stays blank, followed by the entire app crashing for about 20 seconds
[20:38] <KHNoob> How do I install a mounted ISO with wine. Meercat 10.10. used daemon tools to mount. latest stable wine.
[20:39] <shcherbak> Bennage: than it is flash player, try different version, did you install it from Synaptic?
[20:39] <Bennage> yup
[20:39] <Bennage> err
[20:39] <Bennage> no
[20:39] <shcherbak> Bennage: ??? How did you get flash player?
[20:39] <Bennage> err
[20:40] <Bennage> sorry
[20:40] <Bennage> yes
[20:40] <Bennage> mind going wierd
[20:40] <FloodBot1> Bennage: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:40] <shcherbak> Bennage: Next question is: what flash player did you install?
[20:41] <marcoux> version 10
[20:41] <shcherbak> RootLUG: ok, is it liveCD, if yes what system is on hard drive (apart of xp)
[20:41] <dtrf4837> usr13 i cant figure out how to use 'ls -l locked.file' to open lost+found in secondary drive please help
[20:42] <Bennage> shcherbak: <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:42] <Bennage> flash addon
[20:42] <marcoux> Well I have install
[20:42] <KHNoob> How do I install a mounted ISO with wine. Meercat 10.10. used daemon tools to mount. latest stable wine.
[20:43] <usr13> dtrf4837: What do you need from lost+found?
[20:43] <KHNoob> anyone here know how to use wine?
[20:44] <KM0201> KHNoob: #wine
[20:44] <dumont> KHNoob: install it, wine notepad.exe ...
[20:44] <KHNoob> I already have it
[20:44] <dtrf4837> usr13 i accidentally formatted that drive and i wanted to try opening lost+found before trying testdisk
[20:44] <dumont> can anyone help me with file permissions?
[20:44] <usr13> dtrf4837: (I did not mean literally "ls -l locked.file"  "locked.file" is just a hypothetical name.)
[20:45] <Bennage> shcherbak: any suggestions?
[20:45] <intrader> Anyone, the cooling fans on my laptop are running full speed since installing 10.10. I am afraid the fans will fail.
[20:45] <a931bw> how do i get latest e17 in ubuntu?
[20:45] <RootLUG> shcherbak: on win xp is classical ntfs which is in gentoo /dev/hda1 but in ubuntu /dev/sda1, second disk have /dev/sda1 as swap, /dev/sda2 is extended which contains /dev/sda5 ext4 type which I'm using to store data and backups and /dev/sda6 is ext4 too and this is normal system-> /, in mount I can see onlysda   sda1  sdb   sdb1  sdb2 but gparted is showing also /dev/sdb5 and 6 which I need to mount
[20:45] <marcoux> you speak about wine, for use and install software in compatibility with win 32
[20:45] <a931bw> how do i get latest e17 in ubuntu?
[20:45] <a931bw> how do i get latest e17 in ubuntu?
[20:46] <guntbert> !repeat | a931bw
[20:47] <earthmeLon> Is there a way for me to edit video meta data from within Totem or some other GUI?
[20:47] <usr13> dtrf4837: That directory is more-than likely empty. You can see if it is though.  ls -l /
[20:48] <SudoKing> i lost sound with upgrade to natty, i have an error with the module in dmesg: [   61.237363] hda-intel: IRQ timing workaround is activated for card #1. Suggest a bigger bdl_pos_adj. <-- bug or possible to change?
[20:48] <marcoux> Yes it is empty, it is my security.
[20:48] <usr13> dtrf4837: ls -ld /lost+found
[20:48] <marcoux> bye bye guys
[20:49] <shcherbak> Bennage: remove flash player, and update, and install again (make sure you do not have any free plugins installed)
[20:50] <shcherbak> RootLUG: why do you have sdb (that should me another hard drive)
[20:51] <Some_Person> wow
[20:52] <Scunizi> What is mode -i here ?
[20:52] <[core]> Scunizi: invisible
[20:52] <RootLUG> shcherbak: I need to disk, one is on IDE which have Win XP, I need to run there some software for school, second is on SATA where I have normal linux station, I have chaos in that because linux is often remaping /dev eg. /dev/hda is one distribution and in other is /dev/sda etc...
[20:52] <Some_Person> Scunizi: invisible
[20:53] <Scunizi> [core]: as in masking the IP address?
[20:53] <dumont> so I have a folder i want 2 users to have access to, i created a group for them, setup the folder, now my problem is that when a user saves a new file to this folder, the files are under that user's group and are not accessible by the second user that has access to the parent folder, is there a way to force newly created files to have parent folder permissions set?
[20:53] <RootLUG> shcherbak: I need to use somethink like uuid
[20:53] <[core]> Scunizi: no... it's invisible mode on irc
[20:54] <NotLarry> Just put a 2tb drive in my kids fileserver.  They have a 1tb usb drive on it for data, what is the fastest way to copy the data over to the new drive?
[20:54] <Scunizi> [core]: ok.. that sill doesn't tell me "invisible" where?  obviously my posts are visible..
[20:55] <syrinx_> NotLarry: drag it and drop it I would suppose
[20:55] <NotLarry> syrinx_: sry, let me clarify, it is a headless box.
[20:55] <NotLarry> No X installed
[20:56] <DJones> Scunizi: This might explain it better http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[20:56] <rhuddusa>  i upgraded from linux-image-2.6.32-29-virtual linux-image-2.6.35-25-virtual and now any ipsec ah & esp packet with wire size > 304 does not decrypt accross the wire.  i see encrypted packets transmitted and then received, but then they are lost.  if i switch back to 2.6.32, packets decrypt fine.  any ideas who to track down my missing packets? ifconfig doesn't show any errors.
[20:56] <Scunizi> DJones: thanks
[20:56] <teropafu> usr13 i'm not sure if i'm doing it right but i typed ls -l / then the address of lost+found that i got from properties. i got all these 'drwxr' i dont know what it means?
[20:56] <Scunizi> DJones: ah.. ok.. I get it now.  Thanks again
[20:57] <iflema> Scunizi: it hides the rooms your in from people outside of this room....
[20:58] <Hobart> Just did an Ubuntu 10.10 install from the LiveCD onto a recent Asus motherboard (amd, radeon graphics).  LiveCD came up OK, install looked like it worked.  After restarting, the system hard-locks when (I believe) trying to start X.  Tried adding 'nomodeset xforcevesa' to boot options, that drops me to a text login prompt and something is forbidding me from logging in as the (only) user account ("Cannot cd to /home/user").  The Recovery Mode comes up (am in a
[20:58] <teropafu> usr13 i mean i got drwxr stuff in terminal...it didnt open the lost+found
[20:58] <Scunizi> As I remember the GWibber Client use to doc when "x" closed.. It doesn't seem to anymore.  Is there a way to keep it active but off the taskbar?
[20:59] <teropafu> oh my nic changed lol
[20:59] <shaun_> hi\
[21:01] <teropafu> hey what do i do when i have all these prompts and i click on 'close' but it wont close?
[21:01] <sidh> Greetings
[21:01] <slem> www.gsick.com/gnome
[21:01] <trism> Scunizi: if you're using it with the indicator applet, Gwibber/Close Window; will close the window but keep the service running in the background, if not, I don't know, they removed the notification icon a while ago
[21:01] <yeahyeahyeah> Ploploploop, back, my internet was being stupid
[21:02] <Cody3290> How do I quickly switch to another workspace without clicking on the button?
[21:02] <Jordan_U> Hobart: Your message is being cut off at "(I am in a".
[21:02] <Scunizi> trism: do I have to start it with the indicator appelate? if so how do I do that?
[21:03] <xrdodrx> Cody3290, System > Prefs > Keyboard shortcuts, scroll to window management and set shortcuts for "switch to workspace 1/2/3/4"
[21:03] <teropafu> i just wanted to open lost+found and now i got these prompts that i can't close
[21:03] <Jordan_U> !ot | slem
[21:03] <xrdodrx> Cody3290, by default ctrl alt left and ctrl alt right also are used to switch between workspaces :)
[21:04] <Ploploploop> yeaaahyeahyeah ok I'm still there
[21:04] <noremorse2> Anyone have experience with Ubuntu / Likewise and group policy settings on an AD DC causing issues joining the Domain?
[21:04] <trism> Scunizi: you shouldn't need to start it with the indicator applet (although to do that you just click the Broadcast menu item in the messaging menu)
[21:04] <noremorse2> more specifically, enumerating values
[21:04] <Ploploploop> yeahyeahyeah, ok I'm still there
[21:05] <sidh> I really would need your advice : I've installed ubuntu 10.04 because of LTS acronym , and i'm experiencing a big problem with nfs copy locks up/hang client with large files, this bug (that completely freeze my system and need a hard reboot) seems to be known https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/linux/+bug/585657, but as far as i can tell, maverick, and newer release has been fixed but not the 10.04 LTS(!!!) does someone know why ?
[21:05] <Hobart> Jordan_U -> thanks for the detail, loading splitlong :)
[21:05] <Jordan_U> Hobart: You're welcome :)
[21:06] <jhonny> hello, help please
[21:06] <Hobart> Just did an Ubuntu 10.10 install from the LiveCD onto a recent Asus motherboard (amd, radeon graphics).  LiveCD came up OK, install looked like it worked.  After restarting, the system hard-locks when (I believe) trying to start X.  Tried adding ...
[21:06] <Hobart> ... 'nomodeset xforcevesa' to boot options, that drops me to a text login prompt and something is forbidding me from logging in as the (only) user account ("Cannot cd to /home/user").  The Recovery Mode comes up (am in a netroot now), although it ...
[21:06] <Hobart> ... keeps complaining about syslog crashing.  Anyone got any suggested pointers?
[21:06] <FloodBot1> Hobart: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:06] <Hobart> I knew floodbot would yell at me ^^;;;
[21:06] <ugliefrog> anyone using xbmc with mythtv?
[21:07] <Hobart> just tried blacklisting radeon, no luck. :\
[21:07] <sidh> it seems to be a kernel patch to apply so why don't ubuntu offers a lucid updated linux-image in its safe-upgrade procedure
[21:07] <Hobart> the frustrating bit is the inability to log in when trying to boot multiuser.
[21:08] <linelevel> Hi. I just edited my Nvidia video settings to use a 2nd monitor in "Separate X Screen" mode. It said I had to click "Write to X Config file" then restart.. so I did that, except now X won't load at all. Please help!
[21:08] <Bennage> shcherbak: Whoo!  Vistory.
[21:08] <Bennage> *victory
[21:11] <shaun_> hi
[21:11] <genii-around> linelevel: Does: grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf                   show a line?
[21:11] <Bennage> Although I tried to re-install once before, this time I downloaded the .deb and used that and despite it being the exact same version, it worked.
[21:12] <erUSUL> dumont: read here at the bottom of the page about setgid http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions ( read the whole page is worth the time )
[21:15] <aum> hi - i'm trying to install 10.10 from cd onto an x86 32-bit pc - the install wizard takes several minutes to go to each next screen - any ideas what's causing this? could it be that my lan has static ips, not dhcp?
[21:15] <el_seano> doubtful.  Are you talking about the screens where it prompts you for information>
[21:15] <el_seano> ?
[21:16] <aum> yes
[21:16] <DJones> aum: How much memory does the computer have
[21:16] <aum> 1gb
[21:16] <el_seano> processor?
[21:16] <aum> athlon xp2400+
[21:16] <el_seano> yeah, that's kind of a slower one
[21:16] <DJones> aum: I know with only 512Mb, it has a similar effect, but 1gb I wouldn't expect that to be the problem
[21:16] <el_seano> also, reading from disk can take a while sometimes
[21:17] <orudie> how do I apply changes and close after editing in vi
[21:17] <el_seano> optical drives generally have slower r/w than say, usb or a network install.
[21:17] <aum> it took nearly half an hour to get to the partitions screen
[21:17] <el_seano> oof
[21:17] <el_seano> orudie: try :wq
[21:17] <aum> my bios won't boot off usb
[21:17] <el_seano> orudie: or shift+Z Z
[21:18] <BluesKaj> aum, my 6 yr old athlon 3200+cpu  pc  doesn't even accept the live-cd, I have to use the alternate-install or an internet upgrade
[21:19] <aum> BluesKaj: omg
[21:19] <el_seano> aum: I think it's just slow hardware. :/
[21:19] <aum> that totally betrays the tradition of linux supporting legacy hardware
[21:20] <aum> but anyway, i'll try the alternate install - thanks BluesKaj for the suggestion
[21:21] <BluesKaj> aum, the alternate is more flexible , but a bit more work is all
[21:21] <Jon--> I am setting up a server being used by multiple people for the first time. I want to mount a remote sftp with sshfs  I require a directory that is read/write for all users on the machine. How can I do this?
[21:21] <dumont> is it possible to automatically set umask to 007 when a user creates a file in a specific folder only?
[21:21] <aum> BluesKaj: i'm used to that - i've mostly used debian in the last 7 years, but have been put off recently by its broken sound setup
[21:22] <ctoon>  is there a possibility to make write protect some selective o office spread sheet colums in a sheet ? and secondly if a cell (which is not write protected) is edited. it turns its color. ?
[21:22] <BluesKaj> aum, alsa ? pulseaudio is apita on ubuntu as well. a lot of us remove pulseaudio
[21:23] <aum> BluesKaj: problem is that skype requires pulseaudio
[21:23] <BluesKaj> yeah , aum , unfortunately
[21:23] <teropafu> if i want to download testdisk and i'm on ubuntu 10.10 64 bit, do i click on 'kernel 2.6.x i386/x86_64' or 'kernel 2.4.x i386/x86_64' or 'i386 RPM' or 'SRPM'?
[21:23] <dlpenguinlover> helllo. I am just curious, will the next version of ubuntu contain the gnome 3? I was looking at gnomes website and it looks like they're going to have gnome 3 released soon. Any thoughts?
[21:24] <aeon-ltd> dlpenguinlover: unlikely natty is due in 1 month, ocelot maybe
[21:24] <aum> i guess pulseaudio is the Linux Sound System Du Jour, there'll be another one in 6 months
[21:25] <dumont> is it possible to automatically set umask to 007 when a user creates a file in a specific folder only?
[21:25] <Jon--> I am setting up a server being used by multiple people for the first time. I want to mount a remote sftp with sshfs  I require a directory that is read/write for all users on the machine. How can I do this?
[21:25] <lwizardl> Hi
[21:25] <dlpenguinlover> aeon-ltd: That's 11.04 right?
[21:25] <aeon-ltd> dumont: i wouldn't know the details but you can set it to inherit its permissions from the folder
[21:25] <aeon-ltd> dlpenguinlover: ocelot will be 11.11, natty is 11.04
[21:26] <linelevel> genii-around: I fixed it; there was a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup that I mv'd onto the original. I still can't get the second monitor to work though.
[21:26] <lwizardl> i am trying to install the linux version of utorrent and it comes as a file utorrent-server-3.0-24733.tar.gz i know this is a compressed archive but I have never installed an application like this. would this need to be compiled ?
[21:26] <elfranne> how to use ls to get the only the last accessed file ?
[21:26] <aeon-ltd> lwizardl: if untarring it produes the source then yes you need to compile it
[21:27] <dumont> aeon-ltd:  how would i do that? inherit permissions from folder?
[21:27] <dlpenguinlover> aeon-ltd: thanks! I'll be sure to look out for that!
[21:27] <lwizardl> aeon-ltd, only thing that comes out is docs, utserver, and webgui.zip
[21:29] <brasidas> if I'm using device node name's in fstab, is it better to use /dev/mapper/GroupName-VolumeName or /dev/Groupname/VolumeName?
[21:29] <erUSUL> dumont: no it is not posible to set umask for a specific dir.
[21:29] <brasidas> i know they both work since /dev/GroupName/VolumeName is just a sym link to /dev/mapper/...
[21:29] <Gunni> is there any way to make tcpdump show the CONTENTS of all pakages and not the headers etc?
[21:29] <brasidas> but is there a "best pratice" and why?
[21:29] <erUSUL> dumont: if you want more control than what setgid can provide you will have to use ACL's
[21:30] <Jon--> I want to make a directory that is read/write for all users on the machine. How can I do this?
[21:30] <Cody3290> What does it mean "unregistered torrent pass" in Transmission?
[21:30] <Cody3290> error: unregistered torrent pass*
[21:30] <lusmus> how do i get ubuntu server from wubi?
[21:30] <erUSUL> Jon--: mkdir dir ; chmod 777 dir/
[21:30] <aeon-ltd> dumont: no idea
[21:30] <koyktos> part #ubuntu
[21:30] <Jon--> erUSUL: mkdir return permission denied for /home and /media
[21:31] <inside-out-bunny> lusmus: you don't. install it properly from a CD
[21:31] <Jon--> erUSUL: and if I do sudo mkdir then you cannot access it without sudo ...
[21:31] <aeon-ltd> lwizardl: wait i'm downloading now, i'll get a definite soon
[21:31] <lwizardl> aeon-ltd, thanks
[21:31] <lusmus> cus i have windows on mine and i want have ubuntu on the side
[21:31] <vKompff> ahh help i locked myself out of my server
[21:31] <vKompff> i cant even ssh to localhost
[21:32] <lwizardl> aeon-ltd, it almost seems like to be it isn't for desktop users but for webservers only
[21:32] <inside-out-bunny> vKompff: do you have physical access/console access?
[21:32] <dumont> erUSUL: reason I'm doing this is because i need newly creaated files in this particular folder to be of 0770 permission, no matter which autherized user creates it, and from what i understand umask does, you need to manually set umask 007 to the terminal before creating the file, and then setting it back to 022 when working with other directories
[21:33] <inside-out-bunny> i'm guessing you don't since you wouldn't be asking for help otherwise :-)
[21:33] <RobotAnna> hello all, I'm trying to upgrade to 64 bit ubuntu and installed it over my previous partition without wiping and now when it reboots it shows my old grub bootloader options and none of them boot (presumably because they point to files that aren't there!)
[21:34] <RobotAnna> i'm in the live cd (usb ha) environment, how would I start to fix this? D:
[21:34] <vKompff> yes
[21:35] <vKompff> inside-out-bunny: yes i have a console. i cant even ssh localhost
[21:35] <inside-out-bunny> vKompff: so you have root-level access to the machine?
[21:35] <vKompff> inside-out-bunny: yes
[21:35] <aeon-ltd> lwizardl: tried it now, yeah its run as a daemon/service and its all configured via a html page, not practical for a desktop user i suppose :(
[21:36] <inside-out-bunny> vKompff: is ssh running? what did you do to sshd_config?
[21:36] <inside-out-bunny> did you touch iptables?
[21:36] <aeon-ltd> lwizardl: not like a daemon/service more like a background application
[21:36] <vKompff> inside-outbunny: ssh is running i did not do anything sshd_config
[21:36] <inside-out-bunny> does netstat -tln show something listening on port 22?
[21:37] <lwizardl> aeon-ltd, ah so it would be for a headless server environment
[21:37] <Ragas> d
[21:37] <inside-out-bunny> what does ssh -v localhost say?
[21:37] <Star_Light> hello i have problem with my system.... without reason restarts while use ubuntu... in windows it doesnt that. :/
[21:37] <vKompff> inside-out-bunny only <IP_ADDRESS>:22 is listenining to port 22
[21:38] <yeahyeahyeah> I've set all my F keys to do something except F5 cause I need that for refreshing, but F1 keeps giving me the help screen of whatever app I'm in ><
[21:38] <v3ctor> vKompff: do you get an error when you try to ssh?
[21:38] <Roasted> Are there any typing programs for Ubuntu that resemble Microtype found in Windows classroom environments?
[21:38] <vKompff> v3ctor: permission denied
[21:38] <sidh> does someone could explain me what does mean LTS for Ubuntu ?
[21:38] <mrdeb> sidh: long term support. 3 years desktop
[21:39] <Star_Light> vKompff use sudo :p
[21:39] <Ragas> does anybody here have some knowledge about the Ayatana Scrollbar?
[21:39] <aeon-ltd> lwizardl: yeah basically a 'torrent box' , but you could use it for desktop; though i'd prefer something like transmission which has its own gui
[21:39] <jiraia_> hello i'm trying to change the mount point of my thumb drive via udev but can not find what item should I put in the rule
[21:39] <vKompff> Star_Light haha
[21:39] <jiraia_> anyone know or has already done this configuration?
[21:39] <aeon-ltd> sidh: long term support
[21:39] <lwizardl> aeon-ltd, yeah but seems for some reason 2 of the tracker sites I use block transmission for some stupid reason
[21:40] <sidh> mrdeb: so in this kind of releasing , aren't critical kernel bugs supposed to be fixed ?
[21:40] <Star_Light> what kind of problems in hw we have when system restarts without reason??? only in ubuntu matters that.... :/
[21:40] <inside-out-bunny> Star_Light: bad ram?
[21:41] <inside-out-bunny> or powersupply
[21:41] <mrdeb> sidh: they are supposed to be. my experience is that it depends on what they prioritize
[21:41] <Star_Light> bad ram ok.. and why in windows doesnt matter this?
[21:41] <aeon-ltd> lwizardl: harsh...
[21:41] <mrdeb> sidh: in some cases, it's just better to upgrade to the newer version
[21:41] <Jon--> I want to make a directory that is read/write for all users on the machine. How can I do this? mkdir return permission denied for /home and /media and if I use sudo it's only readable/writeable by root ?
[21:42] <Star_Light> i cant go back my system in store because restarts only in ubuntu :/
[21:42] <Star_Light> it doesnt recognize.
[21:42] <runawayhacker> so, has anyone else had issues with having to re-install nvidia drivers after reboot? I'm 10.10 x64 geforce 210
[21:43] <mrdeb> runawayhacker: yes, after kernel upgrade
[21:43] <oraqol> Hey fellas, quick question.  I have an ATI vid card, when I play a game on my windows partition it runs smoothly, no problems.  When I run the game on ubuntu, glitchy and choppy.  i installed the ATI/AMD prop FGLRX driver.  Is there another driver I should be using?
[21:43] <harmandeep> guys, is there any boot time parameter that can set Clock Frequency to 1000Hz on Ubuntu lucid x64 10.04.1
[21:43] <runawayhacker> mrdeb : it used ot only be after kernel upgrade for me too, but now it is after every reboot
[21:43] <sidh> mrdeb: the bug is fixed in maverick , but not in LTS, i'm not talking about a compiz fx or another kikoolol GUI feature, i'm just talking about nfs transfer with nfsclient that totally freeze my desktop, you know what, i've just did a safe-upgrade , install a new linux-image in the process, and still the freeze, do you believe that ?
[21:43] <Jon--> I want to make a directory that is read/write for all users on the machine. How can I do this? mkdir return permission denied for /home and /media and if I use sudo it's only readable/writeable by root ?
[21:43] <visual1ce> hi
[21:43] <jiraia_> hello i'm trying to change the mount point of my thumb drive via udev but can not find what item should I put in the rule
[21:44] <jiraia_> anyone know or has already done this configuration?
[21:44] <oraqol> Oh, and it runs natively in ubuntu, not wine or vm.
[21:44] <mrdeb> runawayhacker: i havent't found that, but my 10.10 box is mostly disconnecte from the net
[21:44] <sidh> Jon--: umask
[21:44] <runawayhacker> mrdeb : yeah, it's just a pain in the ass.
[21:45] <Jon--> sidh: Explanation ?
[21:45] <mrdeb> sidh: well, i can believe that. i remember, although not lts, 9.04 had problematic intel drivers and it wasnt fixed until 9.1
[21:45] <mrdeb> runawayhacker: yes
[21:45] <sidh> Jon--: man umask ?
[21:46] <mrdeb> runawayhacker: i would want to fix it. have you tried installing nvidia drivers yourself, vs from the repo?
[21:46] <oraqol> Anybody?
[21:46] <Jon--> sidh: I only have the C programming man page. Are you suggesting I hack together a C program? ;p
[21:46] <runawayhacker> mrdeb : no, I'm using the official NVIDIA drivers. I cleaned out the open source drivers when I fres installed
[21:46] <runawayhacker> mrdeb : official drivers i the past have worked better for me
[21:47] <Jon--> I want to make a directory that is read/write for all users on the machine. How can I do this? mkdir return permission denied for /home and /media and if I use sudo it's only readable/writeable by root ?
[21:47] <yeahyeahyeah> I've set all my F keys to do something except F5 cause I need that for refreshing, but F1 keeps giving me the help screen of whatever app I'm in ><
[21:47] <runawayhacker> jon— : sudo chmod 777 ,dir.
[21:47] <sidh> Jon--: umask let you predefine the way permission are set when a user create a directory
[21:48] <sidh> just google for umask it will tell you how use it to suit your needs
[21:48] <Jon--> runawayhacker: I've done this, it doesn't work. I get permission denied when I attempt to mkdir so I sudo mkdir then of course I need sudo chmod and even 777 doesn't make it accessible by a user account.
[21:48] <Jon--> runawayhacker: permission denied for both /media and /home
[21:51] <dougb> how stable is the ntfs support in ubuntu?
[21:51] <yeahyeahyeah> I've set all my F keys to do something except F5 cause I need that for refreshing, but F1 keeps giving me the help screen of whatever app I'm in ><
[21:51] <dougb> i just got a WD my password 1TB drive and it came formatted as NTFS, and I will be dealing with large video files, so I would prefer to keep it as NTFS, but I need to be able to write on it with Ubuntu and Windows 7
[21:52] <nemo> are there any ubuntu mirrors that support https?
[21:52] <nemo> our stupid packet inspecting firewall over here has a nasty habit of randomly blocking ubuntu packages server over http
[21:52] <jiraia_> hello i'm trying to change the mount point of my thumb drive via udev but can not find what item should I put in the rule
[21:52] <jiraia_> anyone know or has already done this configuration?
[21:52] <thraspic> test
[21:53] <aeon-ltd> thraspic: test passed.
[21:54] <inside-out-bunny> nemo: tell your security people to whitelist ubuntu mirrors
[21:54] <Hobart> Jon-- -> what you're looking for is the 'other' section of chmod, you can do "chmod directoryname o+rwx"
[21:54] <nemo> inside-out-bunny: tried that already :(
[21:54] <nemo> inside-out-bunny: they suck sooooo bad
[21:54] <nemo> inside-out-bunny: they returned their form letter that instructs me to fill out an application for whitelisting for *EVERY* blocked URL
[21:54] <nemo> with countersigns by supervisor and his superior
[21:54] <thraspic> test passing accepted, initiating questions
[21:55] <inside-out-bunny> nemo: send then a trojaned email to deliver a netcat payload to start a reverse shell on their servers and do it yourself
[21:55] <nemo> inside-out-bunny: I would have to do that for every single .deb - for now I've been HTTP proxying
[21:55] <nemo> inside-out-bunny: I'd rather like to keep my job, and avoid jail.
[21:55] <inside-out-bunny> nemo: maybe set up a local mirror, mirrored via some sort of encrypted tunnel?
[21:56] <nemo> inside-out-bunny: that's what I'm doing right now
[21:56] <inside-out-bunny> oh.
[21:56] <thraspic> I'm looking to get a screensaver that can simply display the contents of a text file (a simple ascii picture specifically, so multiple lines).  Any suggestions?
[21:56] <nemo> inside-out-bunny: I'd like to avoid that though since my home bandwidth isn't great, and it is kind of tedious to do
[21:56] <mrdeb> how long will it be before 10.10 is thrown away from naughty nardvark
[21:57] <inside-out-bunny> nemo: and ftp won't work either?
[21:57] <nemo> inside-out-bunny: hmmmm.
[21:57] <nemo> inside-out-bunny: worth a shot!
[21:57] <inside-out-bunny> nemo: tell your security people to whitelist ubuntu mirrors
[21:57] <nemo> inside-out-bunny: I can really do a s/http:/ftp:/g ?
[21:57] <inside-out-bunny> errr
[21:57] <inside-out-bunny> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[21:57] <yeahyeahyeah> I've set all my F keys to do something except F5 cause I need that for refreshing, but F1 keeps giving me the help screen of whatever app I'm in ><
[21:57] <inside-out-bunny> nemo: depends on mirror
[21:58] <inside-out-bunny> yeahyeahyeah: stop using gnome/kde
[21:58] <yeahyeahyeah> inside-out-bunny, no lol
[21:58] <nemo> inside-out-bunny: any that just allow https? that would guarantee no stupid packet sniffing
[21:59] <b0ot_linux> !server
[21:59] <inside-out-bunny> nemo: i'm not seeing any. it wouldn't sense for a mirror to use https (in general) b/c of the CPU requirements of encryption
[21:59] <inside-out-bunny> it wouldn't make sense, i mean
[22:00] <nemo> inside-out-bunny: they aren't that large, but certainly it offers no significant benefits apart from preventing people from knowing what revisions of packages you are on
[22:00] <nemo> inside-out-bunny: encryption is a pretty tiny extra cost though
[22:00] <inside-out-bunny> nemo: for the server, it is.  a modest server can serve thousands of concurrent http connection but maybe a few hundred https
[22:00] <GeekyAdam> hi all. getting a padlock_sha error on boot and my system halts. http://paste.ubuntu.com/578523
[22:00] <oraqol> ok, how about this one.  I'm trying to burn a trixbox iso onto a cd.  Rightclick, write to disk, things seem to go smoothly, but then disc pops out its still blank.  Any thots?
[22:02] <nemo> inside-out-bunny: key negotiation is expensive. the actual stream has little overhead
[22:02] <nemo> inside-out-bunny: although the way ubuntu does updates, it probably renegotiates for each package/update request
[22:02] <nemo> which is probably less than efficient
[22:03] <nemo> inside-out-bunny: next time it happens, I'll get ftp a shot though
[22:04] <yeahyeahyeah> I've set all my F keys to do something except F5 cause I need that for refreshing, but F1 keeps giving me the help screen of whatever app I'm in ><
[22:04] <inside-out-bunny> yeahyeahyeah: stop reposting the same thing over and over and over and over
[22:05] <oraqol> no love?
[22:05] <yeahyeahyeah> ok ill stop REposting the same thing OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER
[22:06] <inside-out-bunny> nemo: if the packet sniffer is the problem, spoof some IP packets with banned words/etc with source address as a critical server. when the sniffer blocks the critical server, they'll take the sniffer offline to prevent self-dos
[22:07] <nemo> inside-out-bunny: yeah, unfortunately the heuristics of this thing are irritatingly random.
[22:07] <nemo> but interesting idea.
[22:07] <nemo> inside-out-bunny: plus, they just whitelist critical servers
[22:07] <inside-out-bunny> lol
[22:07] <wildc4rd> evenin
[22:08] <skullboy> where is the inittab
[22:08] <inside-out-bunny> skullboy: /etc
[22:09] <skullboy> inside-out-bunny: where in ect
[22:10] <skullboy> inside-out-bunny: where in ect
[22:10] <inside-out-bunny> skullboy: ubuntu doesn't have it actually-- ubuntu uses kickstart
[22:10] <skullboy> inside-out-bunny: where is kickstart
[22:11] <teropafu> i installed testdisk. how do i make it appear in System?
[22:12] <iceroot> inside-out-bunny: upstart
[22:13] <barberan> hi
[22:13] <yeahyeahyeah> hey
[22:14] <muffins> hey folks..  i just installed ubuntu 10.10 to my wife's compaq cq60-420us and for some reason, when i try to open any files like documents, pictures, etc..  i get a pop-up error message that says "File not found"
[22:14] <_tom> My terminal telnet connections seem to drop regularly, is there a setting or something I can change to avoid it?
[22:14] <muffins> i forgot to mention this is a wubi install
[22:14] <thraspic> Pesky connection.  Did someone respond to my text screensaver question?
[22:15] <ghost> hello
[22:15] <muffins> hey folks..  i just installed ubuntu 10.10 wubi version to my wife's compaq cq60-420us and for some reason, when i try to open any files like documents, pictures, etc..  i get a pop-up error message that says "File not found"
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> muffins: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1631961
[22:16] <teropafu> help i installed testdisk but i dont know how to access it. it doesnt appear in System
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> muffins: associate opening folders with nautilus
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> teropafu: its a cli command
[22:16] <ilovefairuz> _tom: that's a server-side issue
[22:17] <muffins> awesome, i'm on it ActionParsnip thanks!!!
[22:17] <teropafu> ActionParsnip,  how do i add it to System?
[22:17] <melow01> quick question... I need to install java <IP_ADDRESS> on Ubuntu 10.04, can someone help me with this?
[22:17] <melow01> I tried "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre", but no luck.
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> teropafu: you won't really,it runs in terminal.You can add it then tell it to run in terminal but you may as welljust run: sudo testdisk
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> !java | melow01
[22:19] <UNew> I switched from Metacity to Emerald a while back, and now I want to switch back, but I can't remember how. Can anyone help?
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> UNew: run:  metacity --replace
[22:20] <muffins> thanks ActionParsnip your great
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> muffins: np bro
[22:20] <UNew> thanks, I knew it was simple
[22:20] <muffins> worked like a lucky charm
[22:20] <teropafu> ActionParsnip,  i saw a video where the user goes to system > administration > partition editor but i don't have 'partition editor' in administration
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> teropafu: thats gparted
[22:21] <rogue> does anyone know how i can get my mouse pointer working inside virtual box
[22:21] <rogue> ??
[22:21] <rogue> cus im staring at the win 7 installation but cant do shiet atm xD
[22:21] <xangua> teropafu: sudo apt-get install gparted , won't make effect on partitons that are mounted
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> rogue: click in the vbox and it should capture the mouse
[22:22] <rogue> nvm i figuerd it out :P
[22:22] <tomasz> hej
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> rogue: cool
[22:23] <tomasz> hek
[22:23] <melow01> ActionParsnip, thanx
[22:23] <ricorx7> rogue: with guestadditions the mouse is seamless
[22:24] <user> #ubuntu-gr
[22:24] <user> sorry
[22:24] <melow01> ActionParsnip, through some digging, I found this on the Oracle website: "jre-1_5_0_09-linux-i586.bin"
[22:24] <teropafu> ActionParsnip,  ok now i see gparted partition editor, thanks
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> teropafu: np :)
[22:25] <melow01> first, how do I install a bin file and second, what is i586? I'm used to seeing i386.
[22:25] <bitabit> cd-rom driver is not being recognized by the system Ubuntu 10.10 http://paste.ubuntu.com/578410/ please help
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> melow01: mark it as executable, move it to /opt and run it with sudo. You can then symlink the libnpjp2.so to your browsers plugin folder
[22:26] <icenine457> ehm, i found a slight misnomer on the ubuntu home page: http://oi52.tinypic.com/5ba4a8.jpg
[22:26] <melow01> ActionParsnip, I'll try that
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> melow01: i586 = P100s and such
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> melow01: when MMX was new
[22:27] <Guest40473> with ssh How do you cause an X11 app to start on the remote host, & run on the remote X display?
[22:27] <melow01> ActionParsnip, ok, a little over my head but will it work on a Intel Pentium D?
[22:27] <Guest40473> i just want to start it
[22:27] <scottamunga> hey, has anybody had problems with gnome randomly reverting to the default theme on login?
[22:28] <Guest40473> not use it
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> melow01: yes, its backward compatible
[22:28] <icenine457> that was on: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop (first image if you click right)
[22:28] <icenine457> *right arrow
[22:28] <ilovefairuz> Guest40473: export DISPLAY=:0.0
[22:28] <melow01> ActionParsnip, thanks
[22:28] <teropafu> ActionParsnip,  oh gparted partitions editor isnt associated with testdisk?
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest40473: you'd need to export DISPLAY as the local display
[22:28] <jerry_> Hello, I am curious as to how I might be able to sync my iPhone 4 with Ubuntu 10.10.  I have read up and downloaded a few players.  I have just upgraded to ios4.3
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> teropafu: no, its different
[22:29] <ilovefairuz> !iphone | jerry_
[22:30] <bitabit> cd-rom driver is not being recognized by the system Ubuntu 10.10 http://paste.ubuntu.com/578410/ please help
[22:30] <JayWalker1> Howdy all. Where would one go to request a (rather important) package be added to the ubuntu repos?
[22:30] <xangua> jerry_: google ios 4.3 webupd8
[22:30] <melow01> ActionParsnip, I ran it from /opt/: ./jre-1_5_0_09-linux-i586.bin and it seems to have extracted properly
[22:31] <ilovefairuz> JayWalker1: launchpad
[22:31] <melow01> ActionParsnip, how do I create a symlink? (I'm still learning command line)
[22:31] <ilovefairuz> melow01: ln -s sourcepath targetpath
[22:31] <scottamunga> JayWalker - could you do it on Launchpad?
[22:31] <woki> security question
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> melow01: try:  mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins;cd ~/.mozilla/plugins; ln -s /opt/jre1_5_0_09/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so .
[22:32] <teropafu> i have a 300 gb hard drive that shows up as '30 GB Filesystem'. do i need to fix this?
[22:33] <woki> some experience about the suckit-rootkit on linux?
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> melow01: you may need to tab complete the .so file path
[22:33] <JayWalker1> I suppose I could. Rather it's a modification of an existing package, the libsdl-gfx package. It doesn't include 32 bit libs to link against (in a 64 bit environment) whereas all the other SDL packages do
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> teropafu: if you only have 30Gb partitioned and 270Gb unpartitioned
[22:33] <ilovefairuz> woki: unlikely, try a security channel
[22:33] <melow01> ActionParsnip,
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> teropafu: but you get the idea
[22:33] <quietone> i want libreoffice-evolution but to install it on maverick, synaptic will remove libreoffice. Can someone explain this?
[22:34] <melow01> ActionParsnip, ok
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> teropafu: wrong target, sorry
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> quietone: sounds like a bug
[22:34] <woki> ilovefairuz: and that would be to prefer?
[22:34] <icenine457> theyre all free...for purchase.
[22:35] <bitabit> cd-rom driver is not being recognized by the system Ubuntu 10.10 http://paste.ubuntu.com/578410/ please help
[22:36] <ilovefairuz> woki: i don't get your understand, i meant that you're unlikely to find an answer to your question here, try a security-focused channel or a mailing list
[22:36] <slackster> hi, if I if install natty alpha three, when it is released, I will be able to update everything via the update manager?
[22:37] <quietone> ActionParsnip, thx.  I would report that at launchpad?
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> slackster: ask in #ubuntu+1 for natty
[22:37] <slackster> ok
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> !bug | quietone
[22:37] <icenine457> awright then.
[22:37] <teropafu> ActionParsnip, i'm not sure if i have 270 gb unpartitioned or not.  i want to recover data from the '30 GB Filesystem'.  can i just go ahead or is the disk being detected as 30 gb going to pose a problem?
[22:37] <itaylor57> quietone: what version of libreoffice do you have installed?
[22:38] <melow01> ActionParsnip, "libnpjp2.so" doesn't exist in the i386 directory
[22:39] <cronus> bitabit, I can't understand the relevancy of your pastbin. could you please explain what i am seeing?
[22:39] <quietone> itaylor, LibreOffice 3.3.1 OOO330m19 (Build:8)tag libreoffice-<IP_ADDRESS>, Ubuntu package 1:3.3.1-1ubuntu3~maverick1
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> melow01: then find the file in that .so in the folder
[22:39] <itaylor57> quietone: yeah I just verified the same for me
[22:40] <quietone> itaylor57, glad to know I am not the only one.
[22:40] <jacek_> hey
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> !info libreoffice
[22:41] <xrdodrx> ActionParsnip, libreoffice is available via PPA only in Maverick
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> quietone: you are also using a 3rd party repo so you should contact the ppa maintainer
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> xrdodrx: yep, it shows :)
[22:41] <melow01> ActionParsnip, ya I'm looking at the files. I've got this one "libjavaplugin_jni.so" and two others with "nscp" in the filename. Do you know which one is correct?
[22:41] <xrdodrx> yeah, it's meant for people that want to live on the bleeding edge XD
[22:41] <xrdodrx> OO.org is fine for me until April :D
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> xrdodrx: libreoffice is default in natty :)
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> melow01: try: cd /opt; sudo find . -iname "*.so"     one will be the file to link
[22:42] <quietone> ActionParsnip, i completely forgot I did that. thx for putting on the right path.
[22:42] <xrdodrx> ActionParsnip, I know xD That's why I said "until April" :P
[22:43] <melow01> ActionParsnip, I'm in the directory i386 and there are about 20 files that end in "so"
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> xrdodrx: !wfm ;)
[22:43] <teropafu> ActionParsnip,  so if the 270 gb turns out to be unpartitioned, then i need to fix it so that it shows up as 300 gb filesystem?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> melow01: well you can now see which you need to link oline
[22:43] <scottamunga> has anybody had issues with GNOME reverting to the default theme in Maverick?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> teropafu: you can partition with parted. sudo fdisk -l   will show what's going on
[22:44] <teropafu> ActionParsnip,  i'm not sure but i might have partitioned the 30 gb when i accidentally installed ubuntu on it
[22:45] <oraqol> ok, i just imaged it onto a usb drive w/ unetbootin.  Still, any thots on the ati drivers thats not flgrlx?
[22:45] <bitabit> cronus: when booting the system the "write through" message appears for a while before entering gnome desktop what you see in the paste bin are console commands to select from dmesg output the lines containing the word "through" and "error"
[22:46] <cronus> bitabit, these are normal messages, though. could you filter for sr0?
[22:47] <bitabit> okay give me a second
[22:47] <mark-t> hi, my gf accidentally pressed some combination of keys, and now her cursor in gmail blinks at the beginning of the line she's typing on, even when characters are inserted at the end; does anyone know how to turn this off?
[22:48] <teropafu> ActionParsnip,  will this partition be a problem for testdisk
[22:48] <ilovefairuz> there's a key label INS or INSERT
[22:48] <teropafu> ActionParsnip,  this partition issue, i meant
[22:48] <ilovefairuz> mark-t: ^
[22:48] <bitabit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/578566/
[22:48] <mark-t> it's not insert; I know what that does
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> teropafu: you only need testdisk if your FAT gets corrupted
[22:48] <din> so i'm wondering if someone can explain this. i removed 8 million files from a directory (took 22 hours), then when it finished and i rmdir the actual directory, it took about 5 minutes to remove it. it's an ext3 filesystem.
[22:49] <leonardo> deneme :D
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> din: that is weird
[22:49] <ilovefairuz> mark-t: that key toggles whether text is inserted or replaced
[22:49] <cronus> bitabit, it seems that linux sees your  drive without any problem
[22:49] <xrdodrx> mark-t, she probably turned on Right-to-Left text entry
[22:49] <SirShaggy> I need a bit of direction, can anybody point me to where I can find a list of changes, features, Hardware Support etc.. in the newest stable Kernel?
[22:49] <mark-t> I know, and that's not the issue here
[22:49] <din> ActionParsnip: i'm guessing it had to remove metadata references to the removed files in the journal
[22:49] <mark-t> xrdodrx: I don't think so, but do you know how to turn that off?
[22:49] <din> but i'm not sure
[22:50] <ilovefairuz> SirShaggy: try http://h-online.com  .. they do a pretty good coverage
[22:50] <cronus> bitabit, is it visible under /dev/sr0?
[22:50] <bitabit> Cronus: I cant mount cd-rom from system/adm/disc utility
[22:50] <bitabit> it doesnt appear there
[22:50] <bitabit> under dev/sr0?
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> din: that'd make sense
[22:50] <SirShaggy> Thank You ilovefairuz!!
[22:51] <bitabit> oh now that you mention...
[22:51] <xrdodrx> mark-t, try left shift+left ctrl
[22:51] <teropafu> ActionParsnip,  as far as i know the FAT isnt corrupted. i just want to recover the files that were lost from the formatting and i thought testdisk might do it
[22:51] <bitabit> vdevd work open/dev/null failed
[22:51] <bitabit> that appears now and then
[22:51] <melow01> ActionParsnip, if I wanted to make this java plugin work in Google Chrome, do you know where the symlink should go?
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> teropafu: sure, you can also use it with foremost :)
[22:51] <Temy> Hope springs eternal in the human breast; Man never Is, but always to blest
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> melow01: /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins
[22:51] <cronus> bitabit, /dev/sr0
[22:51] <oisteink> [Q] I have set up 10.10 netbook on Eee pc 901. I've got 4gb /dev/sda and 16gb /dev/sdb. Would it make sense to make a partition on sdb to store /usr?
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> oisteink: more sense to use sdb for /home
[22:52] <teropafu> ActionParsnip,  so can i just disregard the fact that it shows up as '30 gb filesystem' and proceed with testdisk?
[22:52] <oisteink> I was planning on that. But after install and updates i've got 800mb left on root
[22:52] <bitabit> cronus: I dont get the question could you please ask in other terms?
[22:53] <bitabit> console command?
[22:53] <oisteink> and that makes me worry :)
[22:53] <melow01> ActionParsnip, thanks
[22:53] <cronus> bitabit, ls -l /dev/sr0
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> teropafu: you can use testdisk to make a 300Gb partition the fsck it
[22:53] <bitabit> thanks
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> oisteink: then run: sudo apt-get autoclean    and update temp debs won't hang around
[22:53] <gogogo2> hello. does any one have video how to hack into any forum?
[22:54] <bitabit> brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2011-03-10 23:22 /dev/sr0
[22:54] <A|i3N> Hey simple question - viewing a DVD (WoW original) under ubuntu - I can see the OSX installation folder but it's not showing the windows  installation files. I am trying to copy what is needed to install with Wine. There a way to get ubuntu to view the files I'm not seeing???
[22:54] <bitabit> what does that mean?
[22:54] <ilovefairuz> !offtopic | gogogo2
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> gogogo2: ask in #networking  this is ubuntu support
[22:54] <teropafu> thanks ActionParsnip
[22:55] <Maarten> So I trash-picked one of these: https://h10057.www1.hp.com/ecomcat/hpcatalog/specs/provisioner/05/KR370PS.htm - basically a thin client, but it has a fairly decent Sempron 2100+ cpu. - It had 512 Mb RAM originally, but I replaced it with a 2 Gb RAM stick (it takes PC5300 laptop memory) I had. Its "harddrive" is a 1 Gb flash.   but the Java plugin doesn't show up in Firefox. Any thoughts?
[22:56] <bitabit> but I cant find a clue in system
[22:56] <bitabit> desktop
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> melow01: it's not thatfile
[22:56] <Maarten> Yeah :) wasn't expecting to do much else with it. Maybe run OpenTTD game server (that is only about 20 Mb diskspace....)
[22:56] <melow01> ActionParsnip, ok... how do i know which file to link to?
[22:57] <Maarten> Ah what the heck, lets try this thing :) - gonna make a bootable USB and load it up.... see how good it works.
[22:57] <Eighteens> i'm getting a "sh: /usr/sbin/sendmail: not found" error in my error.log file, i guess this directory or file doesn't exist in ubuntu, can someone help me enable sendmail
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> melow01: try: /jre1.5.0_09/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[22:58] <cronus> bitabit, did it use to work with the previous version of ubuntu?
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> melow01: you need to restart the browser to load the new plugin
[22:58] <ilovefairuz> Eighteens: sudo apt-get install sendmail (though you could use postfix too and it will provide a sendmail binary)
[22:58] <bitabit> I didnt use it
[22:58] <Eighteens> ilovefairuz, thank you, which do you recommend
[22:58] <bitabit> and I was too noob to guess
[22:59] <melow01> ActionParsnip, trying it. I reloaded the browser, thanks.
[22:59] <ilovefairuz> Eighteens: postfix
[22:59] <cronus> bitabit, sorry - I don't think I can help you :(
[22:59] <Hobart> I'm going to theorize that this "unable to cd to /home/user" problem is coming from the Ubuntu installer not properly doing the OS install if you install onto an already-formatted ext4 volume, and they overlooked setting something that the ...
[22:59] <Hobart> ... format-from-scratch installer does properly
[22:59] <bitabit> are you suggesting it is defective?
[23:00] <cronus> no
[23:00] <Eighteens> ilovefairuz, one of my contact forms uses /usr/sbin/sendmail and i recently put apache on this machine, and the mail form says it sent mail, but i never receive it, and just get that error in my log, "sh: /usr/sbin/sendmail: not found"
[23:00] <bitabit> ok nevermind thanks for your interest anyway
[23:01] <Jasonn> flash player wont install - i download it and everything, it just wont be "activated" on firefox
[23:01] <pr0xy> Hi. Natty's Unity has a apps available for download area. One app that shows up in this area is PornView. I do not think that an application such as this should be proudly displayed to all those who may view my screen. I do not have this application installed. I have never installed applications of this sort. I do not feel comfortable using Ubuntu in public or in a family environment. What can I do to get this application to never appe
[23:01] <Jasonn> !natty |pr0
[23:01] <ilovefairuz> Eighteens: yes, you won't receive mail unless an MTA (mail transport agent, like sendmail or postfix) is installed and configured as an "internet site" (you'll get asked for that during installation)
[23:01] <Jasonn> !natty | pr0b0t
[23:01] <Jasonn> !natty | pr0xy
[23:02] <Jasonn> Lol, sorry for taht
[23:03] <Jasonn> flash player wont install - i download it and everything, it just wont be "activated" on firefox
[23:03] <KM0201> Jasonn: are you running adblock?
[23:03] <ilovefairuz> Jasonn: is it listed in about:plugins
[23:03] <Jasonn> ilovefairuz: no
[23:03] <Jasonn> KM0201: no
[23:03] <KM0201> Jasonn: then you're doing somethign wrong
[23:04] <pr0xy> This Apps available also appears in Maverick meerkat netbook. Is there any way to disable the area?
[23:04] <ilovefairuz> Jason: then it wasn't properly installed, you could manually download it and copy the .so file to ~/.mozilla/plugins ..
[23:04] <Jasonn> KM0201: i downloaded the .deb, and it shows up as installed on the package manager, just doesnt work
[23:04] <ilovefairuz> Jasonn: ^
[23:05] <Jasonn> ilovefairuz: the /plugins folder doesnt exist
[23:05] <red2kic> Jasonn: "mkdir -vp ~/.mozilla/plugins"
[23:05] <ilovefairuz> Jasonn: not /plugins.. but /home/yourusername/.mozilla/plugins   .. if it doesn't exist, create it
[23:06] <ginnn> sometimes ubuntu is pain in the s
[23:06] <ilovefairuz> ginnn: such is life
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> Jasonn: can you give the output of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l |  grep flash; dpkg -l |  grep gnash; dpkg -l |  grep swf       use a pastebin
[23:08] <Jasonn> ActionParsnip: ok
[23:08] <Jasonn> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/578571/
[23:09] <Jasonn> ActionParsnip: ^
[23:09] <red2kic> Heh.
[23:09] <Jasonn> ilovefairuz: when i put the file into the plugins, what do i do?
[23:09] <ewet> hi, whenever I try to upgrade my ubuntu 10.4 chromium-browser with the one from the chromium-stable ppa chroium hangs. I tried to purge the config files - I renamed the /home/../.config/chromium directory to no avail. Whenver I upgrade the browser stalls on every page - even on the config-page. WHat can I do?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Jasonn: ok run:    sudo dpkg -P flashplugin-installer; sudo apt-get --purge remove browser-plugin-gnash gnash gnash-common mozilla-plugin-gnash; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get -y install flashplugin-nonfree
[23:10] <ilovefairuz> Jasonn: try ActionParsnip's suggestion first
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Jasonn: you have gnash AND adobe flash.If you have more than one flash plugin, you get nothing
[23:10] <Jasonn> oh
[23:10] <Jasonn> ok
[23:11] <Jasonn> ActionParsnip: then what?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> Jasonn: restart whatever browser you use
[23:11] <ilovefairuz> Jasonn: restart firefox
[23:12] <Jasonn> ok
[23:12] <_Neytiri_> how do i dertermin my kernal verson
[23:12] <feydr> having some trouble w/ulimits... have tried the following: http://pastie.org/private/ci7lz4mnfca7j3fwq8tuq -- still getting the default 1024 for soft/hard limits -- what am I doing wrong?
[23:12] <feydr> this is on 10.04
[23:12] <melow01> ActionParsnip, I tried the symlinks in both Firefox and Chrome with no luck. I also ran "java -version" and it is not installed.
[23:12] <ilovefairuz> _Neytiri_: uname -r
[23:12] <AnubArack> is there another way to run terminal default .... I made a bubu by introducing a command to play at startup and now it opens and closes instantly
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: uname -a
[23:12] <_Neytiri_> thanks
[23:12] <Jasonn> :O
[23:12] <Jasonn> It works, thanks :)
[23:12] <Polah> AnubArack: Revert whatever change you made?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> melow01: java --version won't show anything if you use the .bin file
[23:13] <melow01> ActionParsnip, ok
[23:13] <AnubArack> i can't enter termina properities to change the settings as it wont stay open for more than 1/10 second
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> melow01: if you use the partner repo you can install the latest java easily
[23:13] <melow01> ActionParsnip, ya, I need this specific version to work unfortunately
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> melow01: i see, well, keep trying the .so files in the plugins folders
[23:14] <melow01> ActionParsnip, ok thanks
[23:15] <ewet> no ideas?
[23:16] <Polah> AnubArack: Can you access the terminal properties file? /home/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal
[23:18] <andai> I have 10 GB UNUSED but only 800MB free. Why?
[23:18] <p_res> here
[23:19] <AnubArack> Polah, http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/bh5ossul/Untitledwindow_012.png
[23:19] <KM0201> andai: you probably done something funky w/ your partitions
[23:19] <inside-out-bunny> AnubArack: why is /home your home?
[23:19] <andai> KM0201: oh
[23:20] <AnubArack> inside-out-bunny, I don't get you question
[23:21] <inside-out-bunny> AnubArack: since it's looking in /home/.gconf, the system thinks /home is your $HOME instead of /home/username
[23:21] <inside-out-bunny> AnubArack: what does /etc/passwd say your home directory is?
[23:21] <[segfault]> andai: either that or you have a +/-200gb partition that has 10gb set aside for system use.  5% is the default when a partition is formatted, and it will show up as being unused, but not free.
[23:21] <red2kic> AnubArack: Run "echo $HOME"
[23:21] <AnubArack> run it where :|
[23:21] <inside-out-bunny> in a terminal
[23:21] <red2kic> AnubArack: In a terminal.
[23:21] <AnubArack> that i cant open ...
[23:21] <MnCC> need some help cleaning up my grub2 bootloader ... anyone ?
[23:22] <visual1ce> press ctrl alt T anubarack
[23:22] <red2kic> AnubArack: Ah.
[23:22] <AnubArack> like i said  i went into terminal deaul progile and set to run a custom command so now terminal opens and closes intantly
[23:22] <itaylor57> KM0201: o/
[23:22] <KM0201> itaylor57: o/
[23:22] <inside-out-bunny> AnubArack: press control-alt-f1 and log in there to run it
[23:22] <red2kic> AnubArack: ALT+F2 --> xterm
[23:22] <AnubArack> like i said  i went into terminal default profile and set to run a custom command so now terminal opens and closes intantly
[23:22] <inside-out-bunny> or what red2kic said
[23:23] <itaylor57> KM0201: I tried libreoffice which removed my openoffice what a way to scrog my system
[23:23] <KM0201> itaylor57: doh!
[23:23] <c--> gogogo2, yes www.urfuckingstupid.com
[23:23] <KM0201> itaylor57: so is libreoffice not working correctly, or you just wanted to have both for a time?
[23:24] <itaylor57> KM0201: I tried it , removed and and cannot reinstall openoffice, guess I should go back and use libreoffice
[23:24] <KM0201> hmm
[23:24] <KM0201> itaylor57: did you purge libreoffice, and why can't you reinstall openoffice?
[23:24] <cronus> AnubArack, can you try pressing Alt+F2 and then entering bash as a command, and select run in terminal?
[23:25] <MnCC> im stuck cleaning up, grub boot options .. can anyone help me  (i already googled and removed some myself)
[23:25] <red2kic> inside-out-bunny didn't tell AnubArack how to return back to graphical. :X
[23:25] <itaylor57> KM0201: missing dependancies kinda a loop from hades
[23:25] <KM0201> hmm, that is weird.
[23:25] <inside-out-bunny> red2kic: errr...... ummm...
[23:26] <itaylor57> KM0201: thats what I get for using a third party ppa LOL
[23:26] <KM0201> lol
[23:34] <Huston> hello, i was just wondering how you open the samba gui
[23:34] <Polah> AnubArack: If your problem still isn't fixed, then I mean /home/<username>/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/
[23:35] <sinisterstuf> Huston, maybe click Network in your places menu
[23:35] <guampa> is there a problem with seahorse not importing a ssh private key? it says "invalid file format". yet i use the key everyday
[23:35] <itaylor57> KM0201: well I took the path of least resistence, and reinstalled libre
[23:35] <Huston> mmk, didn't realize it was already active :/ thanks
[23:36] <sinisterstuf> Huston, welcome
[23:36] <KM0201> itaylor57: that was probably easiest, and take it as a lesson learned.. :)
[23:36] <itaylor57> KM0201: yeah take to heart when told something will be removed
[23:36] <KM0201> itaylor57: lol
[23:37] <itaylor57> KM0201: I needed to be taken off my high horse anyways
[23:38] <maheshk> how to tell a .so file is built for debug or release?
[23:39] <maheshk> file <filename> - stripped means release otherwise debug!!   :P
[23:48] <Metaxa> Hello folks. I just downloaded Firefox 4.0RC, still new to Linux, have no idea how to install it, any help?
[23:49] <aeon-ltd> Metaxa: if you got the source !compile it
[23:49] <andai> if a file can be used for swap, why do we use partitions instead?
[23:49] <Polah> Metaxa: Is it a tar.gz?
[23:49] <xpd259> hiya people, this might seem a random question is there a way to play a avi video inplace of the plymouth boot splah. I don't care if i have to wait for the system to boot then play or wait for the video to finish
[23:49] <Metaxa> Yes
[23:49] <Polah> .bz2 I mean
[23:50] <phoenixsampras> how to copy 1000 files with subfolders with overwrite and confirm?
[23:50] <aeon-ltd> andai: it was faster pre-sata supposedly
[23:50] <aeon-ltd> andai: also multiple linux OSes can access it
[23:51] <andai> cool thx
[23:52] <pie_> my 10.04 installation borked so now im reinstalling it, its a windows7 dual boot
[23:52] <pie_> im using the 10.10 installer, and im at the part where you partition/select boot loader partition
[23:52] <Hobart> so .. if I have a semi reproducible problem with ubuntu's installer, but don't have the resources right now to turn it into a detailed bug report, is there anyone who cares that I can notify?
[23:53] <Hobart> (My non working 10.10 install that hung after boot was caused by Ubuntu's installer not getting the system configured right if you're putting stuff on an already-created ext4 partition.)
[23:53] <pie_> i dont remember where i should place the bootloader, in this case, /dev/sda or /dev/sda5?
[23:53] <pie_> sda5 is the previous linux partition
[23:53] <Hobart> pie_ -> generally you'd put the bootloader on the disk itself
[23:53] <Hobart> (the first choice)
[23:54] <pie_> Hobart: yeah just wasnt sure, thanks :D
[23:54] <pie_> also, none of the format checkboxes are highlighted...
[23:55] <andai> what are differences between a LTS release that has been updated and a new release?
[23:55] <pie_> *are highlightable
[23:55] <pie_> theyre all grayed out
[23:55] <doug9> Hello.  Looking for detailed steps to connect Engenius 3550 to Ubuntu.
[23:56] <phil42> andai,  there are not many similarities at all,  changed kernel version,  many older versions in the updated LTS
[23:56] <Jordan_U> pie_: sda
[23:56] <pie_> ugh never mind lol, i didnt set mount points,etc
[23:57] <Polah> How would I go around creating support for FXP on my server?
[23:57] <Ben65> Polah: enable it in ftp config :P
[23:57] <phoenixsampras> how to copy 1000 files with subfolders with overwrite and confirm?  << help
[23:58] <andai> phil42: So what *is* updated in LTS?
[23:58] <andai> phil42: the idea is security/stability over functionality right
[23:58] <guampa> andai: security issues, bugfixes
[23:58] <andai> ty
[23:58] <phil42> andai:  updated LTS has bug fixed versions of the older software, new release has new versions of software
[23:59] <Polah> Ben65: So default ftp supports FXP?
[23:59] <Ben65> depends on the server
[23:59] <eddie> hi
[23:59] <Guest31677> heyyyy
[23:59] <phil42> andai:  with new bugs
[23:59] <semach> exit
[23:59] <Guest31677> i love you all


[02:02] <RAOF> Oh! ubuntu-announce is different to ubuntu-devel-announce? Apparently!
[02:04] <RAOF> So that's why I saw the 20.04.3 release candidate call for testing, but no release announcement.
[02:13] <mwhudson> huh til
[02:34] <RAOF> I think the take away here may be that we have too many low-volume mailinglists with overlapping purposes :)
[02:35] <sarnold> probably the same can be said for irc channels, launchpad teams, wiki pages, etc
[02:36] <sarnold> well, okay, I've said the same about all those things :)
[08:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: google-osconfig-agent (hirsute-proposed/main) [20210219.00-0ubuntu1 => 20210608.1-0ubuntu1~21.04.0] (no packageset)
[08:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: google-osconfig-agent (focal-proposed/universe) [20210219.00-0ubuntu1~20.04.0 => 20210608.1-0ubuntu1~20.04.0] (no packageset)
[09:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: google-compute-engine-oslogin (bionic-proposed/universe) [20210429.00-0ubuntu1~18.04.0 => 20210728.00-0ubuntu1~18.04.0] (no packageset)
[09:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: google-compute-engine-oslogin (focal-proposed/universe) [20210429.00-0ubuntu1~20.04.0 => 20210728.00-0ubuntu1~20.04.0] (no packageset)
[09:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: google-compute-engine-oslogin (hirsute-proposed/main) [20210429.00-0ubuntu1~21.04.0 => 20210728.00-0ubuntu1~21.04.0] (core)
[10:09] <doko> sil2100, mwhudson: please ignore the glibc/i386 autopkg test failure. Nothing we can do about, as long as we try to use a non-default (gcc-10) cross compiler
[13:27] <waveform> sil2100, have you got any time to have a look at (and hopefully approve :) linux-firmware-raspi2 in the bionic queue?
[13:55] <sil2100> waveform: hey! Sure o/
[15:27] <bdmurray> sil2100, ginggs: so we are we with glibc?
[15:28] <ginggs> bdmurray: i think we just need someone to give it a force-skiptest hint
[15:29] <bdmurray> did juliank say he cleared out the rest of the queued tests?
[15:29] <juliank> bdmurray: I cleared them out, yes
[15:29] <juliank> bdmurray: queues are empty
[15:30] <bdmurray> okay, I think we should probably have a look at the failures just to be sure
[15:30] <laney> we should have an 'x' button and correponding request.cgi API to kill requests :-)
[15:35] <bdmurray> I've retried casper
[15:36] <bdmurray> and chrony
[15:41] <bdmurray> juliank, laney: do the tests get queued in alphabetical order?
[15:45] <laney> not sure tbh
[16:09] <tsimonq2> https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/britney/+git/britney2-ubuntu/tree/britney2/policies/autopkgtest.py#n525 seems to suggest that it's a little more complex.
[16:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added dbus-broker to i386-whitelist in impish
[16:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted llvm-toolchain-12 [source] (hirsute-proposed) [1:12.0.0-3ubuntu1~21.04.2]
[16:44] <ginggs> bdmurray: things like deal.ii, dolfin, fenicsx-performance-tests won't pass with a retry, they need triggers on the new versions in -proposed
[16:44] <ginggs> bdmurray: push the button!
[16:44] <bdmurray> which button?
[16:44] <ginggs> the big hint button
[16:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted llvm-toolchain-12 [source] (focal-proposed) [1:12.0.0-3ubuntu1~20.04.4]
[17:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed dbus-broker from i386-whitelist in impish
[17:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added llvm-toolchain-13 to i386-whitelist in impish
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: photofilmstrip (focal-proposed/universe) [3.7.2-1 => 3.7.2-1ubuntu0.1] (no packageset)
[18:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-release-upgrader (bionic-proposed/main) [1:18.04.44 => 1:18.04.45] (core)
[18:52] <bdmurray> vorlon: do you have an opinion on letting glibc out of -proposed?
[19:16] <vorlon> bdmurray: hadn't formed one yet.  do we assume all the new red are flaky tests or things that were previously dealt with in the last upload?
[19:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-apt (bionic-proposed/main) [1.6.5ubuntu0.6 => 1.6.5ubuntu0.7] (core)
[19:17] <vorlon> I saw Michael suggesting we wanted to only run "10%" of the tests but I wasn't part of that conversation before the upload happened, I can certainly jettison remaining tests from the queue once we determine the results aren't going to matter for migration, but that doesn't help establish whether the tests run so far are sufficiently "representative"
[19:19] <bdmurray> The tests have already been cleared from the queue and we probably don't have a lot of data. That being said this is the diff https://launchpadlibrarian.net/556554620/glibc_2.34-0ubuntu1_2.34-0ubuntu2.diff.gz
[19:21] <bdmurray> so maybe we should manually kick off some specific tests?
[19:22] <vorlon> well arm64 has been slowest, and it's gotten to b
[19:22] <vorlon> so perhaps good enough? as I don't have any particular packages I think it's particularly worth testing for this
[19:25] <bdmurray> so graham suggested a force-skiptest hint - is that the way forward?
[19:30] <blackboxsw> bdmurray: falcojr found/fixed two issues that came up in cloud-init SRU -proposed verification, they affect what we have released into impish. If we want a bug-fix-only release with two cherry-picks from tip of main into impish (both for Azure datasource). Do we need a process bug related to that in the changelog?
[19:31] <blackboxsw> for impish d/changelog specifically for a new upload (this bug is not yet released to any other series)
[19:32] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: because its impish and impish isn't stable using the word SRU is confusing. If you are just uploading bug fixes for Impish then have at it - no bugs are required but you they are nice to have.
[19:32] <bdmurray> s/but you/but/
[19:34] <blackboxsw> thanks, bdmurray you (and James) are correct then. Right our SRU only affects B, F and H but we also want to perform an upload into impish for things that don't have a specific bug created. We will proceed then
[19:34] <blackboxsw> without doc bugs in this case as impish is not really released and/or stable yet
[19:35] <bdmurray> Not to confuse matters but if you have upstream cloud-init bugs in Launchpad its easy to open a task on the distro package and just reference them.
[19:37] <blackboxsw> bdmurray: right, we don't have upstream bugs created for this discovered issue during our SRU verification. just some conversations with Azure folks about potential impacts. In this particular case, I think we'd prefer to avoid detailing the platform impacts as the SRU we are undergoing will fix them before we release any updates to B, F and H before public gets ahold of images with these cloud-init   fteatures
[20:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-init (bionic-proposed/main) [21.3-1-g6803368d-0ubuntu1~18.04.1 => 21.3-1-g6803368d-0ubuntu1~18.04.2] (edubuntu, ubuntu-cloud, ubuntu-server)
[20:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-init (focal-proposed/main) [21.3-1-g6803368d-0ubuntu1~20.04.1 => 21.3-1-g6803368d-0ubuntu1~20.04.2] (core, edubuntu, ubuntu-cloud)
[20:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-init (hirsute-proposed/main) [21.3-1-g6803368d-0ubuntu1~21.04.1 => 21.3-1-g6803368d-0ubuntu1~21.04.2] (core, ubuntu-cloud)
[20:25] <blackboxsw> SRU vanguard or backups (wink-wink) we/azure found a couple of regressions during SRU verification and we have uploaded cloud-init bug-fix-release  with two cherry-picks to fix the regresions discovered on Azure https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1940871
[20:26] <blackboxsw> we are looking for review to let in the 21.3-1-g6803368d-0ubuntu1~21.04.2  into bionic|focal|hirsute-proposed. We have also uploaded the same cherry-picks to impish
[20:26] <blackboxsw> impish-proposed
[20:27] <blackboxsw> then we can continue our SRU verification testing for cloud-init. Ive already applied the "verification-failed" tags to the bug above
[20:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: ndpi (impish-proposed/primary) [4.0-1]
[20:55] <blackboxsw> bdmurray: or vorlon do either of you know if there is time before EOD for cloud-init re-upload to -proposed review? If not, we'll take that an ping -Łu-kasz on Monday
[20:56] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: let me have a quick look
[20:56] <blackboxsw> thanks, it'll give a chance to reverify on clouds and get Azure on testing their side
[21:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cloud-init [source] (hirsute-proposed) [21.3-1-g6803368d-0ubuntu1~21.04.2]
[21:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cloud-init [source] (focal-proposed) [21.3-1-g6803368d-0ubuntu1~20.04.2]
[21:03] <bdmurray> there you go
[21:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cloud-init [source] (bionic-proposed) [21.3-1-g6803368d-0ubuntu1~18.04.2]
[21:03] <blackboxsw> thanks for the quick turnaround. Be putting together that Christmas list :)
[21:04] <blackboxsw> you need anything from me related to either software-properties-gtk or update-manager (ubuntu-security-status) ?
[21:04]  * blackboxsw checks those queues now in case
[21:05] <bdmurray> blackboxsw: so update-manager-core doesn't depend on ubuntu-advantage-tools and I don't think not having an dep will be an issue do you agree?
[21:06] <blackboxsw> ahh n/m looks like I'll probably put up an MP/PR next week for desktop software-properties. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1920836/comments/28
[21:06] <blackboxsw> bdmurray: ubuntu-advantage-tools is in minimal images and pulled in everywhere that I'm aware of so adding deps should not be a prob on anything > trusty
[21:09] <bdmurray> yeah, okay I'll add the dep
[22:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: update-manager (focal-proposed/main) [1:<IP_ADDRESS> => 1:<IP_ADDRESS>] (core)
[22:46] <mwhudson> so my reading of https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output_notest.txt is that glibc would migrate?
[22:52] <bdmurray> I did skiptest it


[03:21] <ali1234> hmm
[03:22] <ali1234> cgroups allows you to limit the physical memory used by a process or group of processes, after it's exceeded they swap
[03:22] <ali1234> that is AMAZING
[03:22] <ali1234> i have wanted that feature for YEARS
[03:23] <ali1234> no gnome-thumbnailer, you do not need 100GB of memory
[03:23] <ali1234> and they said cgroups is only useful for servers?
[04:37] <mapps> cgroups>
[04:37] <mapps> ?
[05:49] <ali1234> http://en.gravatar.com/alistairbuxton HAHAHAHA
[05:49] <ali1234> i figured out how to delete gravatar profiles
[05:50] <ali1234> and they told me it was impossible...
[06:11] <ali1234> lol, github has this fun feature
[06:11] <ali1234> you can put in any email you want as your gravatar
[07:11] <foobarry> ugh bad night
[07:12] <foobarry> i'm so tired i actually put the spoonful of baby food in my mouth instead
[07:18] <MartijnVdS> morning foobarry
[07:18] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: that doesn't sound too horrible.. I mean, it's food, right?
[07:19] <foobarry> morning.
[07:19] <foobarry> its the only palatable baby food - banana "porridge"
[07:19] <foobarry> hmm adblock plus refusing to work in chrome Version 29.0.1547.76
[07:19] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: I use "normal" adblock, not ABP
[07:20] <MartijnVdS> works fine in 32.0.1700.77
[07:20] <MartijnVdS> why are you running such and old version?
[07:22] <foobarry> hmm it should update itsekf right?
[07:22] <foobarry> normal adblock works, i'll stick with that
[07:25]  * foobarry dist-upgrades
[07:28] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: Chrome adds a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d to upgrade itself when you apt-get upgrade, yes
[07:29] <foobarry> those versino numbers creep up
[07:29] <foobarry> haven't updated for a few weeks
[08:03] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: 29 is from august last year
[08:19] <foobarry> weird
[08:19] <foobarry> argh /boot filled up
[08:20] <MartijnVdS> remove ye olde kernels
[08:21] <foobarry> wont let me cos its full (
[08:21] <MartijnVdS> what? apt-get purge should allow that
[08:21] <MartijnVdS> or dpkg --purge one kernel (to free up some space)
[08:21] <foobarry> its / rather than /boot
[08:22] <MartijnVdS> how.. how did you do that?
[08:22] <MartijnVdS> don't you have a multi-gb disk?
[08:22] <foobarry> boot is in /
[08:23] <foobarry> can't purge cos apt-get didn't finish
[08:23] <foobarry> and i have to go out soon :(
[08:31] <foobarry> phew
[08:31] <foobarry> fortunately ubuntu is more resilient than centos
[08:31] <foobarry> haven';t rebooted yet thoug
[08:39] <shauno> my ugly method for that, is to rm anoldkernel && touch anoldkernel.  that way it still exists when apt wants to remove it, but it's not eating disk
[09:00] <directhex> ali1234, AGI ALtix had it in hardware - "cpusets"
[10:03] <popey> ming
[10:06] <nigelb> hello popey
[10:21] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[10:37] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:38] <brobostigon> morning bigcalm
[10:40] <nigelb> Morning brobostigon, bigcalm
[10:40] <nigelb> Nice sunny day today
[10:40] <brobostigon> morning nigelb
[10:40] <brobostigon> yes, very sunny.
[10:43] <nigelb> I'm feeling lazy though. I'd rather sit in my room all day than go out and explore London.
[10:44] <brobostigon> might have a strol into town this afternoon, sit in a beer garden for a few hours.
[11:20] <jussi> Myrtti: ping
[11:21] <jussi> popey: who are you calling a ming? :p
[11:22] <jussi> Myrtti: came across this: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/aluminium-bluetooth-keyboard-cover-for-google-nexus-7-2013-p40583.htm -might be interesting for you?
[11:26] <Myrtti> jussi: I've got 2012 because I don't drive a car of which glove compartment door I can use as an implement to break the screen into halves And justify buying a New one
[11:27] <jussi> Myrtti: no doubt a story there... anyways guess that rules it out for you.
[11:28] <Myrtti> true story... can you guess why fir the first time in three years d And I don't have matching mobile kit
[11:28] <jussi> Myrtti: that said,  http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bluetooth-keyboard-and-case-for-google-nexus-7-asus-p37024.htm
[11:30] <Myrtti> But yeah, I'm picky about the layout. thanks anyway, I'll have a look When I'm back home from meeting Ronja for the first time
[11:31] <jussi> fair enough.  saw it and thought you might be interested.
[11:32] <Myrtti> yeah definitely
[11:33] <Myrtti> nexus 5 screen is big enough to have a quick look But mittens are a hindrance
[15:36] <foobarry> watching toy story 3 with the yongling
[15:41] <nigelb> aww
[15:46]  * popey is playing MGS with the kids watching me
[15:46] <bigcalm> directhex: my SteamOS always starts muted already. How do I fix this?
[15:47] <directhex> bigcalm, did you install from Ye Olde SteamOSe?
[15:47] <bigcalm> directhex: yes
[15:47] <bigcalm> 2nd release I think
[15:47] <directhex> 2nd release has a major regression in audio
[15:48] <bigcalm> Your 2nd release that is
[15:48] <directhex> yeah
[15:48] <directhex> you can un-mute?
[15:48] <bigcalm> By going to the desktop to do so, yes
[15:48] <directhex> using the gnome volume widget?
[15:48] <bigcalm> Yes
[15:48] <directhex> use pavucontrol instead
[15:49] <directhex> if your system.pa is good, that should fix it not restoring properly on boot
[15:49] <bigcalm> Okay. I'll boot up and have a look
[15:57] <bigcalm> It worked, yay :)
[15:58] <directhex> i don't know why pavucontrol & gnome-volume-badger behave differently
[16:01] <bigcalm> directhex: any thoughts on why my xbox controller constantly flashes?
[16:01] <bigcalm> It didn't do so in Ubuntu
[16:01] <bigcalm> Still works, just irritating as flip
[16:22] <directhex> bigcalm, the xbox pad driver is heavily patched in steamos
[16:24] <bigcalm> It might improve with time then
[16:27] <directhex> bigcalm, you can review the changes using dget, debdiff, http://repo.steampowered.com/steamos/pool/main/l/linux/linux_3.10.11-1+steamos8.dsc and http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20130911T094539Z/pool/main/l/linux/linux_3.10.11-1.dsc
[16:30] <directhex> anyone with an interest in steamos should do so, there are interesting details in the changelog
[16:32] <directhex>  patches/defer-input-nodes-and-led-support                               |  493 +
[16:33] <directhex> that's the xbox pad driver rewrite
[16:43] <daftykins> why would it need any work? is it having that steam controller's support added to it?
[16:46] <directhex> dunno. ask volvo
[16:48] <daftykins> the car manufacturer? :P
[17:24] <jussi> Myrtti: let me know what you think when you have had a look.  I want to hear about possible good points and bad points from other perspectives also :)
[17:26] <Myrtti> I can't live with that 2012 keyboard
[17:26] <Myrtti> too stuck on touch typing on finnish layout
[17:26] <Myrtti> I'll ask Dunc what he thinks of the newer  one
[17:28] <jussi> Myrtti: imagining it had the correct layout,  anything else that bothers you about it?
[17:30] <Myrtti> ideally I'd like a universal bluetooth keyboard that isn't semidefunct when the device it's designed for dies
[17:30] <Myrtti> I've got one I really like apart from the fact it's got the wrong layout
[17:31] <jussi> ahh. so you don't really need it to be a cover?
[17:31] <Myrtti> http://www.amazon.com/Stowaway-Ultra-Slim-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Handhelds/dp/B0002OKCXE
[17:32] <Myrtti> that's the one I've got somewhere
[17:32] <Myrtti> no. I've got a case for it already
[17:33] <jussi> ahh. have you looked at the universal one from Samsung?
[17:34] <jussi> Myrtti: http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/35977/dnddb/Samsung-Universal-Bluetooth-Keyboard-White-valkoinen-Bluetoo
[17:35] <Myrtti> two keys between L and Enter, won't do
[17:35] <Myrtti> yes, I really am picky
[17:36] <jussi> no problems :)
[17:38] <Myrtti> Microsoft Wedge looks promising
[17:38] <MartijnVdS> Cooking bacon using hair curlers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ105LKFCVU
[17:38] <jussi> ahh. btw did you look at the ones from logitech?
[17:40] <Myrtti> a lot of Nexus users seem to have bought the Wedge
[17:40] <Myrtti> (reading the reviews)
[17:40] <Myrtti> (from vk.fi)
[17:40] <jussi> wedge looks nice.  However I want the stand/cover aspect also.
[17:42] <daftykins> wow, if you ever want to see how NOT to do storage...
[17:42] <daftykins> http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=183747
[17:51] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130802014808/rwby/images/6/68/6a4d386f_I_Have_No_Idea_What_I_m_Doing.jpeg
[17:51] <daftykins> :D
[17:51] <daftykins> very apt
[17:52] <shauno> all those in one outlet, and no fire extinguisher
[17:53] <Myrtti> ooh ooh http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/252587878/stress-free-great-tool-for-breadboard-wire-strippi
[17:53] <MartijnVdS> shauno: power bill is higher than the netflix bill would have been :)
[19:40] <ali1234> all i see in that thread is a gy asking a perfectly reasonable question and a bunch of neckbeards piling on telling him why his question is wrong
[19:41] <ali1234> this is why people don't volunteer more information than they have to when asking questions
[20:00] <daftykins> the XBMC forum one?
[20:01] <daftykins> so you see zero problem with having 64 x 4TB disks each partitioned into 4 volumes, in no kind of RAID?
[20:01] <daftykins> if not then you sir are trolling
[20:13] <foobarry> where does he say its not raided?>
[20:14] <foobarry> BTW, RAID or any similar solution has been obsolete for several years now...so until I could find something better I chose not to implement anything...
[20:14] <foobarry> lol
[20:14] <foobarry> followed by
[20:14] <foobarry> I have always partitioned my HDDs. It's a force of habit and I have not found any reason not to...
[20:15] <foobarry> thats a lot of movies on 512tb
[20:22] <daftykins> yep he has every disk partitioned into 4 x 1TB volumes
[20:22] <daftykins> honestly it reads like a blatant troll :)
[20:22] <directhex> because ¯\(°_o)/¯
[20:22] <foobarry> ok, so not striped at all though
[20:23] <foobarry> he's just got individual disks, and when the disk dies, he just replaces it, because he doesn't understand parity disk, or doesn't like to "waste disks"
[20:23] <directhex> i mean, he's talking about using an ORM, but... doesn't even seem to understand why
[20:24] <foobarry> maybe he has excellent backups
[20:24] <directhex> he backs it all up onto a stack of floppy disks
[20:24] <directhex> each partitioned into 2
[20:25] <foobarry> maybe he has the original dvds, but 512TB sounds like a lot of material sourced from elsewhere
[20:25] <foobarry> the mind boggles
[20:25] <directhex> but every parallel file system i've used has written data more than once because disk failure is to be expected in any kind of multi-disk arrangement
[20:26] <directhex> like, with 128 disks, i'd expect to be swapping out one a month
[20:26] <foobarry> i have a 120 disk SAN thats seen > 15 drive failures since april
[20:26] <foobarry> and a dell one of only around 20 disks that haven't had any failed in 4 years
[20:27] <penguin42> foobarry: the 120 disk san - were those vendors drives or your own?
[20:27] <foobarry> oracle, SATA disks interestingly
[20:27] <foobarry> v expensive sun disks
[20:28] <foobarry> but there's other factors - humidity, dust, vibrations.
[20:28] <foobarry> vibrations have killed more disk than anything i know
[20:28] <foobarry> unsure if radioacitvity plays a part
[20:29] <penguin42> is your server room likely to have a problem with radioactivity?
[20:33] <foobarry> the oracle one..maybe
[20:34] <diddledan> 0.5PB array? that's nucking futs for a home user
[20:34] <foobarry> does anyone ask him what's on it?
[20:35] <diddledan> on the first page he alludes to "50,000+ titles (Music, Music Videos, Movies, etc)"
[20:35] <foobarry> "Seriously, one would have to be crazy to implement this in a real world setup with real data!!!
[20:35] <foobarry> "
[20:35] <foobarry> i think he's bactracking now
[20:37] <foobarry> Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions.
[20:42] <diddledan> where does he get the idea that raid is obsolete?
[20:43] <daftykins> his flawed brain
[20:46] <directhex> penguin42, it's an issue for RAM, it's why ECC exists
[20:46] <directhex> cosmic rays
[20:48] <penguin42> directhex: Well yes, but I've never had to think about radiation generally
[20:48] <penguin42> diddledan: There is an argument that on large arrays normal RAID can never resyncing without another failure, hence the snazzier raid-z and the like
[20:48] <penguin42> or distributed object stores
[20:57] <foobarry> at least its not raid0
[22:46] <ali1234> daftykins: i don't see what it has to do with the guy's question at all
[22:46] <ali1234> redundancy is pointless on a media server, if you lose something you just download it again
[22:46] <daftykins> well you can be an idealist and just see what he wanted to ask
[22:46] <daftykins> but i prefer to insult the individual for how he's setting himself for a failure so big it doesn't matter what he's asking :D
[22:46] <daftykins> but i don't actually use forums anyway, that thread was linked in another channel
[22:46] <daftykins> also, that's a daft view, people collecting that much may not be able to *get* something again
[22:49] <ali1234> the sad thing is that if he hadn't posted specs of his crazy system his thread would have just been ignored
[22:51] <daftykins> well it does seem to be quite crazy
[22:52] <ali1234> it's probably all pr0n anyway
[22:58] <daftykins> do you not find it shocking the guy has to configure 2,048 shares?
[22:58] <ali1234> yes his setup is pretty stupid
[22:58] <ali1234> i don't disagree with that
[23:01] <daftykins> ^_^
[23:02] <ali1234> all he needs to do is expose the object store in some format that xbmc understands
[23:02] <ali1234> that doesn't necessarily mean a filesystem
[23:02] <ali1234> it could be done with upnp
[23:02] <ali1234> i'm sure xbmc supports other types of media servers too
[23:04] <ali1234> "My question is: Are there any plans for XBMC to support distributed,  cloud storage mechanism that do not rely on the traditional  File(s)/Directory(ies) mechanism of FTP, Samba, and the rest?"
[23:04] <ali1234> the answer: "XBMC already supports upnp, thanks you and goodnight"
[23:05] <daftykins> i don't know why anyone wants to run those nasty protocols
[23:05] <daftykins> that is, when they have sane storage
[23:05] <ali1234> files and folders has never been a good way to store media files
[23:06] <daftykins> things like UPnP/DLNA trash gapless playback for audio though
[23:06] <ali1234> false
[23:06] <daftykins> in implementations i've tried
[23:06] <daftykins> i suppose the client could request the next ahead of finishing the first
[23:06] <ali1234> that's down to the player, not the server
[23:06] <ali1234> yes, exactly
[23:07] <ali1234> upnp just hands you a URI to where the file is
[23:08] <ali1234> you can even mount a upnp server as a filesystem (software is called djmount i believe)
[23:09] <daftykins> i think XBMC might do that
[23:21] <shauno> I think the first answer he was given is perfectly valid; that's the OS' job.  after that is just rubbernecking


[01:34] <cjohnston> kwwii: ping
[09:35] <kwwii> cjohnston: pong
[13:00] <cjohnston> kwwii: are you still around?
[13:00] <knome> probably not :)
[13:01] <kwwii> hi
[13:01] <knome> oooh
[13:01] <kwwii> cjohnston: pong
[13:03] <cjohnston> kwwii: I am working on redoing the community page on the ubuntu website for Jono.. (http://ubuntu.com/community)... We are wanting to put in more detailed info about getting involved with the different areas of the ubuntu community... artwork being one.. I am looking for someone to write some info following a structure provided by Jono for us to use about artwork.. Would you be able to do it? You can see more info
[13:05] <kwwii> cjohnston: I guess I would be the right person to take care of that
[13:05] <cjohnston> Is that something you could do in the next couple of days?
[13:05] <kwwii> cjohnston: can you send me an email with any details?
[13:05] <kwwii> cjohnston: yes, I am about to board a train for 4 hours ;-)
[13:06] <cjohnston> Sure...
[13:06] <cjohnston> oh fun..
[13:06] <cjohnston><EMAIL_ADDRESS>or something else?
[13:06] <kwwii> that will work fine
[13:07] <cjohnston> I will work on sending it now.. Thanks!
[13:07] <kwwii> np, glad to help
[17:27] <thorwil> i have a single panel on the top, including window buttons. after a few days, the min/max wm buttons pointing down and up still throw me off :}
[19:58] <vish> pretty awesome stuff http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-deus-ex/100909 !
[20:17] <thorwil> vish: looks like it owes quite a bit to GITS
[20:18] <vish> thorwil: storyline maybe. but the graphics are un-freaking-believable!
[20:18] <thorwil> ah, the theme thread on the ayatana list is a great opportunity to reach new levels of uselessness ^^
[20:19] <vish> thorwil: heh , i was wondering when Dani would mention that on ayatana ;p
[20:19] <vish> thorwil: he had mailed me once saying there is no discussion on artwork about the themes!
[20:19] <vish> the default ones
[20:23] <thorwil> vish: i could create a long lists of issues with the theme, but with unclear goals/objectives and often no clue what is and isn't as intended or what is caused by technical issues ...
[20:25] <thorwil> vish: instead we get to see another "it's bad" vs "no, your wrong, can't you see it's good!"
[20:25] <vish> thorwil: any opinions are just subjective/personal and not really useful atm
[20:26] <vish> thorwil: having an engine and just tweaking colors are calling one theme more Usable is really silly. I'm not sure why he says elementary is more usable. though I use it ;p
[20:27] <vish>  colors and*
[20:28] <thorwil> vish: well, the default selection colors in Ambiance don't allow one to distinguish between focused or not easily. the dark buttons reduce contrast quite a bit
[20:29] <thorwil> selected items in side panels look too much like buttons
[20:29] <thorwil> vish: so there's a lot happening with just tweaking colors ;)
[20:29] <vish> ha , that is a bug. no sure that is USABILITY ;p
[20:30] <thorwil> vish: like i said, how would i know what is and isn't intentional? it's not like anyway would talk to me about that
[20:30] <vish> :)
[20:32] <vish> we really need a murrine fork... new ideas. new design. new style
[20:35] <vish> thorwil: his earlier mail was funnier when he tried to make the ubuntu-mono icons use tango palette ;p
[20:39] <thorwil> vish: wow. only proposing that tango switches to the mono palette could beat that
[20:40] <vish> hehe .
[20:42] <vish> thorwil: was there any research about the tango palette , for "Usability" ?
[20:42] <vish> i mean was the palette chosen for usability or for consistency
[20:50] <thorwil> vish: i think it was designed to step on no one's feet. rumor has it color vision impaired designers were involved
[20:52] <vish> thorwil: yeah , when Dani had sent the earlier mail about the tango palette, he mentioned that. and i was wonderinf why nothing about the "research" is ever mentioned on the site. and i had not heard of it being researched either
[20:55] <thorwil> vish: i don't know where that idea comes from. from what i know, at the beginning, it was all about having a style and palette that would allow the icons to blend in on windows, mac and linux (or should i say gnome?) ...
[20:57] <thorwil> cue troy complaining about how trying to work in any context leads to never being great
[20:57] <thorwil> good night! :)
[20:57] <vish> yeah , seems sometimes Dani gets confused ;p  like saying that the elementary theme "they take years to improve this theme" , the theme hasnt even been there for 8months ;p and equinox is even shoprter
[20:57] <vish> thorwil: nite!
[23:53] <amanthethy> @Kwwii: If you weren't aware as yet, the first link in the topic doesn't exist (wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/VisualIdentity