[00:00] <Armagguedes>  is there any essential functionality missing from 804-beta-KDE4? or does everything pretty much work?
[00:21] <petri> Roos
[00:33] <Nutzebahn> Hi.
[00:34] <Nutzebahn> I installed emerald and compiz, and imported a theme into the Emerald theme manager. How do I activate the theme? (emerald --replace doesn't work, and compiz --replace messes up the desktop and forces me to restart), help?
[00:34] <Odd-rationale> Nutzebahn: Open emerald theme manager.
[00:35] <Odd-rationale> Nutzebahn: double-click on the theme
[00:36] <Nutzebahn> Odd-rationale: Double click it inside Emerald theme manager? Because that didn't work.
[00:36] <Odd-rationale> Nutzebahn: hmm. dunno then. That is what i always have done...
[00:37] <nosrednaekim> Nutzebahn: after you click it, often you have to restart emerald
[00:39] <Nutzebahn> nosrenaekim: How do I restart it?
[00:39] <jhutchins> Nutzebahn: #compiz
[00:40] <galfrid> anyone good with vmware?
[00:40] <galfrid> or know of any good alternatives
[00:40] <Nutzebahn> VirtualBox.
[00:41] <galfrid> will that allow me to create a vm *and* run it?
[00:41] <Nutzebahn> Yes.
[00:41] <Nutzebahn> It is free and open source.
[00:41] <galfrid> oh cool
[00:42] <galfrid> that's what I'm looking for
[00:42] <Nutzebahn> :)
[00:43] <galfrid> I actually have a couple more issues...
[00:44] <galfrid> well, I have many issues, but specifically kubuntu based ones
[00:44] <Armagguedes>  is there any essential functionality missing from 804-beta-KDE4? or does everything pretty much work?
[00:44] <nosrednaekim> Nutzebahn: emerald --replace restarts it
[00:44] <nosrednaekim> Armagguedes: I'm not sure... I haven't used it...,... you can ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:44] <galfrid> first off I have a partial install of vmware workstation that won't uninstall fully
[00:45] <galfrid> I'm stuck and I don't know what to do
[00:50] <galfrid> any advice? :D
[00:51] <Nutzebahn> nosrednaekim: emerald replace isn't doing anything.
[00:53] <Jucato> Nutzebahn: try asking in #compiz-fusion
[00:55] <ere4si> using the same conky script that worked in ubuntu but in kubuntu the window isn't transparent
[01:05] <galfrid> *sigh* I hate being a noob... I have the debian package for virtualbox, but I don't know how to install it
[01:06] <Nutzebahn> Double click it.
[01:06] <galfrid> I did that... I get "utility is not in your PATH, please contact admin"
[01:08] <galfrid> so confused
[01:10] <ketzerei> I can't install Ubuntu. Alternate cd or otherwise. Kubuntu installs just fine, I'm running it now. Ubuntu just seems to hate me, 64 bit or otherwise.
[01:10] <ketzerei> Any ideas?
[01:10] <Kaevik> none here
[01:11] <tin> galfrid: if your GUI environ won't run anything if you double click it, use 'sudo dpkg -i vbox-package-name.deb'
[01:11] <ketzerei> I get an "Errno 5 Check cd for defects, clean disk drive, or move to a cooler enviroment."
[01:11] <tin> first, maybe read 'man dpkg' quickly
[01:11] <ketzerei> I've burned like 4 different cds already, and none work.
[01:11] <BluesKaj> ketzerei, go to #ubuntu for advice
[01:14] <ober0ne> hey, I'm looking to get some music composition programs up and running, but it tells me (wrongly) that I don't have a midi device, or that it couldn't open /dev/sequencer... any ideas?
[01:15] <frank23> Windows installer royally screwed up my partition table. Please read here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60815/   I just want to know if rewriting the partition table as I suggest will work and if there is anything I should watch out for.  Right now I'm in a ubuntu livecd.
[01:22] <osiris> how do i get kubuntu to use my new sound card
[01:23] <osiris> or how can i tell what /dev a device is using.  it shows up in lspci as a ESS product
[01:26] <osiris> so, none of 300 some people can hear my question ?
[01:26] <Nutzebahn> Send the question again.
[01:26] <Nutzebahn> Someone will eventually help.
[01:26] <osiris> how do i get kubuntu to use my new sound card
[01:27] <osiris> or how can i tell what /dev a device is using.  it shows up in lspci as a ESS product
[01:27] <fuhreal> Anyone use kooka to scan?
[01:27] <osiris> problem is i cant turn off the onboard sound with this crappy compaq bios
[01:28] <Nutzebahn> Oh.
[01:28] <Nutzebahn> Hmm.
[01:28] <Nutzebahn> You should be able to in the operating system.
[01:28] <osiris> want to get the pci sound card working
[01:29] <osiris> not to knock the channel, but i miss the mandriva days.  thier channel actoually had people that could answer technical questions
[01:29] <BluesKaj> osiris, lspci | grep audio, then ,asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[01:30] <osiris> friggin sweet
[01:30] <frank23> Windows installer royally screwed up my partition table. Please read here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60815/   I just want to know if rewriting the partition table as I suggest will work and if there is anything I should watch out for.  Right now I'm in a ubuntu livecd.
[01:31] <BluesKaj> !partition
[01:31] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:32] <BluesKaj> !grub
[01:32] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:32] <navetz> does anyone know what I have to download to be able to watch movies from nba.com ?
[01:32] <navetz> not even movies, just highlight reels
[01:33] <frank23> BluesKaj: how can I create a partition and specify the starting and ending sector
[01:33] <osiris> BluesKaj, while that was appreciated, no help
[01:37] <BluesKaj> the first suggestion was to use GParted as a partitioning tool. I
[01:38] <Kubuntu-user> I've installed riva tnt2commercial drivers.after that my ubuntu7.04was rebooted.my os is fully updated.the problem is fact that my hi-res is 800x600
[01:38] <vlt> Hello. I fetched the source of a package (`apt-get source pkgname`), extracted it (`tar -xzf pkgname-version.tar.gz`) and modified a .cpp file. Does anyone know the easiest way to get an installable .deb file?
[01:39] <TD-Linux> vlt: make
[01:39] <BluesKaj> frank23, Gparted is easy to use and works well , looks like you have your work cut out for you with all those partitions .
[01:39] <TD-Linux> well build it
[01:39] <TD-Linux> then instead of make install
[01:39] <navetz> http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/nba/nbacom/nbatv_top10/top10_080322.asx
[01:39] <john_doe> hi... i actually try to install the madwifi driver, but when a put make in the consolo, the system said "cc: ./../kernelversion.c: doesnt exist" my question is what is the kernelvercion.c or how can i resolve the problem
[01:39] <TD-Linux> use checkinstall
[01:39] <navetz> can anyone play that ?
[01:39] <Jucato> !checkinstall | vlt
[01:39] <ubotu> vlt: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[01:39] <TD-Linux> navetz: loading
[01:40] <frank23> BluesKaj: I need to be able to specify the exact starting sector to repair this.
[01:40] <navetz> TD-Linux: what do i have to download to play it?
[01:40] <navetz> TD-Linux: mine does nothing
[01:40] <frank23> BluesKaj: I can't find that option in gparted
[01:40] <TD-Linux> works perfect for me
[01:40] <TD-Linux> navetz, what program is it using?
[01:40] <TD-Linux> I think I'm using mplayer
[01:40] <TD-Linux> either that or xine
[01:40] <navetz> TD-Linux: it is trying to opem with mplayer
[01:40] <TD-Linux> one of the browser programs
[01:40] <TD-Linux> I can't tell what it is exactly
[01:41] <TD-Linux> yeah kmplayer plugin
[01:41] <BluesKaj> hmm, that's beyond my scope frank23, sorry ...maybe someone else can help ...guys ?
[01:41] <TD-Linux> it should load in mplayer after about a minute of downloading...
[01:41] <vlt> TD-Linux: Is this the way it's done by the ubuntu repository maintainers?
[01:41] <TD-Linux> vlt, no
[01:41] <kgoetz> frank23: if your working to the sector try cfdisk or fdisk
[01:42] <Jucato> vlt: no. to be honest, checkinstall is not recommended/shunned by them :)
[01:42] <sourcemaker> how many iterations are requiired... so erase the hard disk secure with SHRED?
[01:42] <kgoetz> vlt: re your questionw ith source. use dpkg-buildpackage
[01:42] <Apple_Cat> Does anyone know of a command to show some basic information about computers on a network ?
[01:42] <frank23> kgoetz: I tried cfdisk but couldn't find how but it could be there somewhere...
[01:42] <kgoetz> sourcemaker: depends how secure you want to be
[01:43] <kgoetz> Apple_Cat: what informatio?
[01:43] <vlt> kgoetz: That's the "official" way?
[01:43] <sourcemaker> I will sell my old hard drive and I am not interessted that somebody can revovery personal data
[01:43] <TD-Linux> seriously no one has even figured out a way to read it without one wipe
[01:43] <Jucato> !packaging | vlt
[01:43] <ubotu> vlt: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[01:43] <kgoetz> vlt: you could say that. its absolutely preferable to checkinstall
[01:43] <vlt> kgoetz: Ok, thank you.
[01:44] <TD-Linux> anyway it would be horribly difficult and expensive to read a drive that has been erased
[01:44] <kgoetz> sourcemaker: half a dozen iterations isgood enough. more then that if your trying to hide something from ASIO :)
[01:44] <fuhreal> how can i kill an app if a terminal won't launch?
[01:44] <TD-Linux> so unless it has top-secret military information on tactical nuclear weapons, you are probably safe
[01:44] <Apple_Cat> kgoetz: basically  just hostname, ip
[01:44] <sourcemaker> TD-Linux: cool :-)
[01:44]  * kgoetz realises hes here to do study, and has wound up helping here again
[01:45] <kgoetz> Apple_Cat: for a remote system, oryour local system?
[01:45] <sourcemaker> TD-Linux: but I haven't military informations... :-)
[01:45] <Apple_Cat> remote system
[01:45] <Armagguedes> any firewall gui you can recommend? i used to use Guarddog (i think), but after i booted it the first time if i did not launch the app i would not have a functional network connection...
[01:46] <kgoetz> Apple_Cat: not sure
[01:46] <SlimeyPete> Armagguedes: try firestarter?
[01:46] <Apple_Cat> k, thanks anyway :)
[01:47] <Armagguedes> guarddog, firestarter.. what else is there?
[01:47] <SlimeyPete> not aware of any others
[01:47] <SlimeyPete> !firewall
[01:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:47] <SlimeyPete> *shrug*
[01:48] <Armagguedes> ok thanks
[01:48] <BluesKaj> Apple_Cat, how about just smb:/ in the konq addressbar ?
[01:50] <JasonWard> what is the command to update ubuntu?
[01:50] <Dr_willis> theres dozen of firewall configuration tools out. : ) depends on what you need.
[01:51] <kgoetz> !dist-upgrade JasonWard
[01:51] <kgoetz> !dist-upgrade | JasonWard
[01:51] <ubotu> JasonWard: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:51] <JasonWard> tnx
[01:52] <nonewmsgs> why is there no one in kubuntu+1
[01:53] <vlt> kgoetz: `aptitude search dpkg-build` returns no match. What package do I need?
[01:53] <kgoetz> nonewmsgs: all the +1s are in #ubuntu+1
[01:53] <Dr_willis> because its #ubuntu+1
[01:53] <kgoetz> vlt: dpkg-buildpackage , as i said above
[01:53] <nonewmsgs> oh thanks kgoetz and dr_willis
[01:53] <kgoetz> vlt: also look at the page Jucato pointed you to :)
[01:54] <vlt> kgoetz: Yes, that's a very large one ;)
[01:54] <c-ron> hi
[01:55] <kgoetz> vlt: yes it is :) not sure if theresa  smaller version anyware
[01:55] <kgoetz> since what you want to do isnt very complex
[01:55] <c-ron> if i upgrade to hardy to help test, and want to install kde 4 at a later time, is it a pain in the b4lls?
[01:55] <pat5star> nonewmsgs: I resemble being called a 'no one' :)
[01:56] <pat5star> nonewmsgs: s/resemble/resent/
[01:56] <kgoetz> pat5star: resent? :)
[01:56] <kgoetz> hehe
[01:56] <pat5star> kgoetz: :)
[01:57] <pat5star> c-ron: you don't have to upgrade to hardy yet for kde4, I'm on gutsy and have kde4 installed, and can choose from my login screen whether to boot kde3 or kde4
[01:58] <c-ron> pat5star, nice.
[01:58] <bbt> how do i specify a user/group for samba for an ntfs mount ?
[01:58] <pat5star> c-ron: I can look for the link for you if you want, but it's in ubuntu's how to guide...very easy to do
[01:58] <Jucato> for Hardy-related questions: #ubuntu+1 and for KDE4 questions: #kubuntu-kde4
[01:59] <c-ron> okay... pat5star .. that's okay... i just want to upgrade to see how may bugs i can find and help fix to that the next ubuntu rocks hard like death metal
[01:59]  * pat5star is very impressed with kde4, but still using kde3.5 till some last bugs are ironed out
[01:59] <drbrown> quick question about KDE 4, how do you change the clock from 24 hour to am/pm?
[02:00] <Jucato> drbrown: might find more KDE4 users in #kubuntu-kde4
[02:00] <drbrown> sorry
[02:00] <drbrown> thanks
[02:01] <pat5star> c-ron: that's cool of you. I'd like to do that too but not very helpful, if only they needed java programmers :P
[02:02] <pat5star> actually my last statement got me wondering...what is kde programmed in mostly? If I had to guess, I'd say c++
[02:02] <Jucato> mostly C++
[02:03] <Jucato> you can user other languages as long as there are bindings for them
[02:03] <Artimus> pat5star: KDE in C++.  A lot of apps that come with Kubuntu were written in Python (PyQT)
[02:03] <pat5star> Jucato: ya, and I'm lost in that...been poking around a little with C lately but still much to learn
[02:03] <Artimus> (the system config apps, that is0
[02:03] <Jucato> Artimus: pyKDE
[02:03] <pat5star> Jucato: but I doubt Java is one of them
[02:03] <Artimus> Jucato: sure, my mistake
[02:04] <Jucato> pat5star: KDE doesn't have one yet. but there's Qyoto for Qt+Java
[02:04] <Jucato> er sorry
[02:04] <Jucato> Jambi
[02:04] <Jucato> Jambi = Qt + Java (from Trolltech). Qyoto = Qt + Mono (3rd-party)
[02:04] <Jucato> pat5star: you don't need to learn C before you start learning C++
[02:04] <Jucato> if C++ is your goal
[02:05] <kgoetz> C > C++
[02:05] <pat5star> Jucato: I make a living programming server side, which java excels at. I've never had the need for C or C++, but wish I had taken the time to learn it, just so I could help with add ons, bug fixes. Hard to fit into my schedule tho :(
[02:06] <Jucato> kgoetz: ">" statements are mostly subjective :)
[02:06] <Jucato> anyway let's not get into a programming language discussion here
[02:06] <kgoetz> Jucato: sure :)
[02:07] <pat5star> Jucato: agrees, but vi is better than emacs :P
[02:07] <kgoetz> :( ubotu doesnt start wars
[02:07] <Jucato> (btw kgoetz, if you say C > C++, you should love GTK/GNOME more :P)
[02:07] <kgoetz> Jucato: i run GNOME :P
[02:07] <Jucato> pat5star: none of that either :P
[02:07] <sourcemaker> how bad is the performance when I use kubuntu with an encrypted file system? It's is maybe better to create a encrypted patition for the user home?
[02:07] <Jucato> heh
[02:07] <pat5star> Jucato: just kidding around...that's got to be one of the oldest flame war starter topics, don't you think? lol
[02:08] <Jucato> pat5star: C vs C++ is I think older :P
[02:08] <kgoetz> pat5star: i think unix v multis is older :D
[02:08] <prince_jammys> let's keep it objective, like 5>4, or kde > gnome
[02:08] <kgoetz> Jucato: i'd be supprised, both tools predate C++
[02:08] <Jucato> kgoetz: oh right... C++ hehe
[02:08] <Jucato> anyway
[02:08] <pat5star> hmmmm...I've never got into a lively discussion about which program vs another program is the best for starting flame wars :P
[02:09] <prince_jammys> me neither
[02:09] <kgoetz> pat5star: dpkg > ubotu (it has 'start an [editor,language] war) as afunction ;)
[02:09] <kgoetz> (dpkg debians bot, not the package management tool)
[02:10]  * Jucato dons his op hat and raises the !offtopic warning flag
[02:10] <prince_jammys> kaffeine > starbucks
[02:10] <prince_jammys> sorry
[02:11] <prince_jammys> anyway now for some support
[02:11]  * kgoetz tempts fate by takin Jucato 's hat and putting it on prince_jammys
[02:11] <kgoetz> (then stops tempting)
[02:11] <pat5star> netscape vs IE? mozilla vs opera? mac vs linux? vi vs emacs? kubuntu vs ubuntu (to feebly attempt to bring it back on topic!), dolphin vs konqueror? etc. etc. etc. lol
[02:12] <pat5star> or actually how about a serious one? I use konversation with kubuntu...what does everyone else use in kubuntu for an irc client?
[02:13] <prince_jammys> konversation
[02:13] <SlimeyPete> I use irssi, via ssh.
[02:13] <Dr_willis> i tend to use xchat on all my mchines and os's
[02:13] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:13] <kgoetz> td-linux uses konversation ;)
[02:13] <prince_jammys> embrace diversity
[02:14] <asobi> anyone use guarddog? i need to open ports for dcc
[02:15] <pat5star> prince_jammys: is that an irc client? I've never heard of it
[02:15] <pat5star> prince_jammys: or is that a statement? :)
[02:17] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[02:17] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[02:18] <BysmuthMage> can the kubuntu live CD image be burned onto a DVD disc and still work (in a DVD drive, of course) or is there some part of the install data that is CD-specific?
[02:18] <BysmuthMage> I ask because I'm fresh out of blank CDs but I have some DVDs lying around
[02:19] <SlimeyPete> as far as I know, CD ISOs don't work when burned to DVD. I believe there is an unofficial DVD image available though.
[02:19] <pat5star> BysmuthMage: sure you can
[02:19] <Dr_willis> !find  python-compizconfig
[02:19] <ubotu> Found: python-compizconfig
[02:19] <pat5star> BysmuthMage: you just need to be sure, or change if possible, your bios settings to boot from dvd
[02:19] <Dr_willis> !find  python-sexy
[02:19] <ubotu> Found: python-sexy
[02:20] <Dr_willis> !info  python-sexy
[02:20] <ubotu> python-sexy (source: sexy-python): python language bindings for libsexy. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.9-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 13 kB, installed size 132 kB
[02:20] <Dr_willis> !info  python-compizconfig
[02:20] <ubotu> python-compizconfig (source: compizconfig-python): Compiz configuration system bindings. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 28 kB, installed size 136 kB
[02:20] <Jucato> Dr_willis: please PM the bot for searches. thanks
[02:20]  * Dr_willis hugs the bot.
[02:21] <Dr_willis> ya got to wonder who uses the term sexy to name their libraries.
[02:21] <BysmuthMage> d'you know off the top of your head if a Dell inspiron 5100 is set up to boot from DVD?
[02:21] <BysmuthMage> long shot there... I guess I'll have to check myself
[02:22] <Dr_willis> BysmuthMage,  most machines these days are set to boot the optical drive by default.
[02:23] <pat5star> BysmuthMage: I don't, but if you try something like f10 or tapping del while it's starting (or if you know exactly which key to type), it will put you into the bios settings where you can check/change whether it boots from cd/dvd
[02:23] <pat5star> first
[02:24] <BysmuthMage> is there ever a separate BIOS setting for different types of media in the same drive? because I know I can boot from that drive with a CD
[02:25] <SlimeyPete> there's not
[02:25] <BysmuthMage> sorry... I don't do much with BIOS I swear I'm better with the rest of the computer
[02:25] <kgoetz> are you sure its a dvd drive?
[02:26] <BysmuthMage> yeah it is, I'm not having problems ... yet... I was just checking beforehand
[02:27] <BysmuthMage> oo my windows machine has a virus... let's all share a moment of pointing and laughing (at Windows)
[02:28] <enoj_> I just installed kubuntu, what do I need to install to view xvid videos?
[02:29] <posingaspopular> enoj_: kubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:29] <Dr_willis> i tend to watch my xvid videos in gmplayer, or vlc, or others.. that restricted-extras package may grab any needed codecs you may need. :)
[02:30] <Dr_willis> I got a little setup script i wrote that installs several dozen packages on my new installs. I forget what   is not  default.
[02:31] <kgoetz> !codecs | enoj_
[02:31] <ubotu> enoj_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:44] <oren> can someone help me? how do i play h264 files?
[02:44] <oren> im a total noob too
[02:44] <Dr_willis> oren,  You may need the kubuntu-restricted-ectras package. and perhaps the w32codecs package.
[02:45] <sayers> h264 files
[02:45] <sayers> Never ever heard of that
[02:45] <Dr_willis> i play h264 codec videos all the time here. :)  so its just a matter of geting the proper codecs/players
[02:45] <BobSapp> i play h264 with mplayer it works ok
[02:45] <oren> i have xinze, kaffine, and vlc
[02:45] <BobSapp> if you have a fast enuff pc
[02:46] <BobSapp> kaffine is a very good player actually
[02:46] <oren> do need a special codec?
[02:46] <Dr_willis> i have mplayer tweaked how i like it.
[02:46] <Dr_willis> oren, the kubuntu-restricted-ectras package. and w32codecs package. should include all you need
[02:47] <oren> also anyone know a download manager that will speedup downloads, firefox is slow,
[02:47] <Dr_willis> oren, the kubuntu-restricted-extras package.
[02:47] <oren> ok cool
[02:47] <Dr_willis> a download manager wont help much i imagine.
[02:47] <Dr_willis> you on dialup?
[02:47] <GEIS> other than ssh,how do i control kubuntu with gui over the net
[02:47] <BobSapp> i just installed hardy lol
[02:47] <oren> in winows i used to use a program called internet download manager
[02:47] <Dr_willis> GEIS,  vnc, freenx, or ssh -X remotebox and run the apps.
[02:48] <Dr_willis> oren,  i havent found download managers to be that benifitial for me since i am no longer on dialup.
[02:48] <Dr_willis> oren,  what are you downloading anyway?
[02:48] <GEIS> ssh -x is x11 forwarding?
[02:48] <BobSapp> -X
[02:48] <oren> i am on cable 10mb conncetion but  from the website im gettign 160k where will a dl manger program i used to run 8 connections and dl at 1.3mbs
[02:48] <Dr_willis> -X and -x are DIFFERenT :)
[02:49] <lanoxx> hello, i have a question, when i put in a dvd there ususally comes up a menu to choese what action to take, i accidentially ticked the option to take a certain action all the time. how do i get the menu back?
[02:49] <Dr_willis> oren,  from what ive seen a lot of the servers detect people doing that. :) byt you can search the package manager for 'download' i guess and see whats available.
[02:49] <Erickj92> how do i get FireFox 3 Beat 2?
[02:50] <Dr_willis> about the only download tool i use is wget. and its not really a download manager like windows peoples are used to.
[02:50] <Erickj92> Beta*
[02:50] <oren> whats wget?
[02:51] <Dr_willis> oren,  a download tool.
[02:51] <oren> i use easynews.com
[02:51] <BobSapp> gets files basically
[02:51] <Dr_willis> wget ftp://foobar.zip
[02:51] <Dr_willis> Its very handy in scripts and so forth.
[02:52] <BobSapp> i dont really use download accelerators, i tend to use torrents mostly
[02:52] <lanoxx> hello, i have a question, when i put in a dvd there ususally comes up a menu to choese what action to take, i accidentially ticked the option to take a certain action all the time. how do i get the menu back?
[02:52] <oren> newsgroups are worth the money and much faster
[02:53] <Dr_willis> Money? I normally use the free ones... wget is not a newsgroup downloader.
[02:53] <Dr_willis> it depends on what you are wanting to get I guess. :) havent used newgroups in proberly a year or more.
[02:54] <WeaponX> does Grub come default wiht kubuntu install?
[02:54] <Dr_willis> grub is the default boot loader. yes WeaponX .
[02:55] <Dr_willis> its normlly installed as one of the last steps of the install process
[02:55] <WeaponX> ty
[03:07] <dwidmann> Wow, pretty dead in here tonight
[03:08] <maduser> yeah
[03:08] <BobSapp> how do i install the autocomplete thing for bash?
[03:08] <maduser> ?
[03:08] <BobSapp> anyone remember the package name?
[03:08] <BobSapp> oh nvm
[03:10] <dwidmann> BobSapp: I thought it was just something you had to turn on in your .bashrc
[03:10] <tahir> hi
[03:11] <tahir> i was wondering
[03:11] <tahir> where is menu.lst?
[03:11] <maduser> for?
[03:11] <maduser> grub?
[03:11] <tahir> grub
[03:11] <maduser> ah its in boot/grub
[03:11] <Dr_willis> tip of the day. learn to use the locate command.
[03:11] <Dr_willis> locate menu.lst
[03:11] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:11] <tahir> where should i type that next time?
[03:11] <maduser> shell
[03:11] <Dr_willis> !shell
[03:11] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:12] <tahir> ah kk
[03:12] <BobSapp> dwidmann: yeah thanks
[03:12] <Dr_willis> Tip #2 of the day - The shell is our friend. :)
[03:12] <dwidmann> Dr_willis: and the find command too ..... it can be even more useful
[03:12] <Dr_willis> dwidmann,  depends on the details. :)
[03:12] <Dr_willis> I use find when building up scripts. and locate for a system wide fast search.
[03:12] <maduser> lets see
[03:12] <dwidmann> Dr_willis: same
[03:12] <maduser> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:12] <maduser> /usr/share/doc/grub/examples/menu.lst
[03:12] <maduser> /usr/share/doc/memtest86+/examples/grub-menu.lst
[03:12] <maduser> got it!
[03:12] <Dr_willis> I have a large # of hard drives. Locate works best for me and my stuff.
[03:13] <maduser> you can execute shell commands in converstion
[03:13] <tahir> one more question, to open a program under root permissions i type "kdesu konqueror" (or w/e the program is) but when i try and open a .txt file it says "KDEInit could not launch kate"
[03:13] <Dr_willis> maduser,  locate uses a database for its searches use 'sudo updatedb' to update the database. It auto updates like once a day
[03:13] <jcgkffycs> dose some one know how to dissable fsck on startup?
[03:14] <dwidmann> Dr_willis: thing that hurts slocate IMHO is that when I need to find a file that I just recently put in and/or installed, I have to wait a minute for the database to rebuild (ie: sudo updatedb)
[03:14] <Dr_willis> tahir,  for root level editing of files. you proberly want to use kdesu kate /path/to/file
[03:14] <Dr_willis> dwidmann,  its a tradeoff.
[03:14] <maduser> /home/kevin/.sudo_as_admin_successful
[03:14] <maduser> /etc/pam.d/sudo
[03:14] <maduser> /etc/sudoers
[03:14] <maduser> /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdesudo.list
[03:14] <maduser> /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdesudo.postrm
[03:14] <dwidmann> indeed
[03:14] <Dr_willis> tahir,  or better learn to use the console editor. sudo nano /path/to/file
[03:14] <Dr_willis> tahir,  running the gui file manager as root - can cause problems.
[03:14] <tahir> im guessing alot of stuff is done in console in linux?
[03:15] <maduser> yeah
[03:15] <tahir> ah kk, im going to have to get use to that
[03:15] <tahir> sorry for the lame questions, i just started
[03:15] <Dr_willis> tahir,  its easier from an irc-tech point of view to tell you a text command  :)
[03:16] <dwidmann> Dr_willis: viiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[03:16] <Dr_willis> linux is all about layers.
[03:16] <Dr_willis> often its much easier to use a command, then a gui tool
[03:16] <tahir> ah ic
[03:16] <tahir> so how long does it take to get use to it
[03:16] <spawn57> heh I first learned about layers from the OSI model
[03:17] <tahir> ive been a windows user for years now and i finally think i have enough knowledge to start linux
[03:17] <maduser> can you use command prompt?
[03:17] <tahir> yep
[03:18] <tahir> but alot of the basic stuff
[03:18] <tahir> nothing too complex for me
[03:18] <maduser> then unix should be easy'
[03:18] <dwidmann> tahir: sounds like an *** backwards approach. Coming from another OS can actually make it harder to learn Linux
[03:18] <tahir> uh oh
[03:18] <dwidmann> Lots of habits to break ..
[03:19] <maduser> like?
[03:19] <dwidmann> GUI overdependence?
[03:19] <tahir> well i just figured a semi pro user of windows is the same as a linux nub
[03:19] <lanoxx> the kubuntu system settings seems to be short of many options, is there a way to get the usual kde settings menu?
[03:20] <dwidmann> lanoxx: alt + space then type "exec kcontrol"
[03:21] <Dr_willis> learn the fundamentals, link the basics together. :)
[03:21] <maduser> whats kapult for anyway?
[03:21] <lanoxx> dwidmann: cool, thanks. i wonder why there is no link to it in the menu
[03:21] <Dr_willis> a pro-windows user -  has just memorized where all the  setting tools are at in windows.. :)
[03:21] <dwidmann> lanoxx: you can add one
[03:21] <dwidmann> maduser: quickly launching things
[03:22] <lanoxx> sure, now i know
[03:23] <dwidmann> lanoxx: right click on the panel, configure panel, menus tab, optional menus box, check "settings"
[03:23] <tahir> hah its true Dr_willis
[03:23] <tahir> windows just makes things so much easier
[03:23] <tahir> but thats probably because im use to it
[03:24] <Dr_willis> windows makes some things much harder..
[03:24] <tahir> to be honest, linux kind of scares me
[03:24] <dwidmann> tahir: it is .... after a while you'll find that some things are a pain in Windows when compared with Linux in general
[03:25] <lanoxx> dwidmann: thanks, its there now :)
[03:25] <tahir> brb
[03:25] <tahir> have to restart
[03:25] <Dr_willis> half the problems new users have with linux - is their bad-windows-habbits getting in the way
[03:25] <lanoxx> anyone know what %F does in wxvlc %F
[03:26] <Dr_willis> lanoxx,  i would guess 'path/filename'
[03:28] <lanoxx> its strange, typing wxvlc dvd:// in the console plays the dvd, but when i set it in the autoplay settings i get /media/cdrom0 is not a file
[03:29] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I have two problems.
[03:30] <Ertain> One, Firefox is stopping my X server for no apparent reason.  I thought it was Flash, but that wasn't it.
[03:30] <Dr_willis> lanoxx,  it may be trying to mount /media/cdrom0 when it shouldbe /media/cdrom
[03:30] <Ertain> Also my networking service isn't starting at boot up, even though it's listed as starting up on boot in System Services.
[03:35] <dwidmann>  Dr_willis, lannoxx: no, apparently it forces that argument onto the command even though you didn't put it  there, I was never able to get that to work either
[03:36] <Dr_willis> make a script that takes the arument and trims out the extra bits I guess?
[03:36] <Dr_willis> I never play dvd's :) and i never want to autoplay or autostart anything with optical media either.
[03:36] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:37] <asobi> need help with dcc
[03:40] <tiffany> need help with scandisk usb flash drive
[03:41]  * Dr_willis waits for some more details
[03:41] <asobi> you have to mount a drive before you can use it
[03:41] <asobi> i can't dcc get
[03:41] <asobi> have tried opening ports
[03:41] <asobi> etc etc
[03:41] <asobi> i think it's guarddog
[03:42] <tiffany> how do I get to system services on disk, not just files
[03:42] <asobi> but doc on that is rather poor?
[03:42] <Dr_willis> you could just disable the firewal competely asobi  get the files.. then reenable it.
[03:42] <asobi> i could
[03:42] <Dr_willis> tiffany,  that made no secne to me what so ever.
[03:42] <asobi> but isn't there a way to do with the firewall on?
[03:43] <Dr_willis> asobi,  proberly - see if theres a iptables faq/howto, and perhaps the guarddog web site/faq/forums  may have the exact settings you need.
[03:43] <Dr_willis> I dont use a firewall My router handles it.
[03:43] <asobi> besides, i am not certain it's the firewall
[03:43] <tiffany> on the S3 scandisk is a format and programs it says linux comp. but its not working right
[03:43] <asobi> that's the thing, the guarddog documentation is very poor
[03:44] <Dr_willis> asobi,  its just a gui to the iptables commands.. so you could use guarddog to build the iptables rules, then edit the rules as you want.
[03:44] <Dr_willis> if you have a router also. it might be the router causing the problems
[03:44] <asobi> i opened ports in router already
[03:45] <asobi> and i think i did for firwall as well
[03:45] <asobi> think is the operative word
[03:45] <Dr_willis> asobi,  so you say it works with the firewall being disabled?
[03:45] <asobi> no
[03:45] <asobi> let me try that now
[03:46] <Dr_willis> if the router has a 'dmz' setting - set that pc to be in the dmz, and  disable the firewall, see if it works. :)
[03:46] <asobi> yes
[03:46] <asobi> works with firewall off
[03:46] <Ertain> Can anyone figure out why my network service is not starting at boot up?
[03:47] <asobi> so clearly it's the firewall
[03:47] <asobi> -__
[03:47]  * asobi goes back to reading
[03:48] <Dr_willis> asobi,  do you even need the firewall?
[03:48] <asobi> O.o
[03:48] <Dr_willis> the router is proberly blocking most of all what you want blocked.
[03:49] <Dr_willis> THis isent windows. :)
[03:49] <asobi> well
[03:49] <asobi> i don't really know much about routers
[03:50] <Dr_willis> I doubt if you are gaining much by the firewall.  of course its a good topic to learn about
[03:50] <asobi> i know port forwarding and similar simple tasks
[03:50] <asobi> but otherwise, not much else
[03:50] <asobi> heh
[03:50] <Dr_willis> use one of those network scan sites to see what it says about your router.
[03:50] <asobi> link?
[03:50] <Dr_willis> google.com
[03:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:50] <Dr_willis> I dont know what sites are around any more. grc.com used to be popular.
[03:51] <asobi> any one will work?
[03:51] <asobi> or do i need one for kubuntu?
[03:51] <Dr_willis> try several....
[03:51] <Dr_willis> there are none specific for a single os.
[03:51] <Dr_willis> They are web sites taht scan your ip - and tell you what ports are open
[03:53] <Randuni> hi all
[03:54] <asobi> thanks, scanning now
[03:54] <Randuni> can I ask a question in here about Kubuntu 8.04 beta?
[03:54] <asobi> do it in #kubuntu+1
[03:54] <Randuni> k..thx
[03:54] <asobi> maybe it's #ubuntu+1
[04:00] <Randuni> hi all
[04:00] <Randuni> when I boot the beta cd and select the option "try kubuntu without altering your system"..I just get dumped to: Busybox v1.1.3 (initramfs) _
[04:02] <asobi> i assume you mean live cd?
[04:02] <asobi> check if you meet system requirements
[04:03] <asobi> or better yet, wait for official release?
[04:09] <Smurf-Slayer> Can uNSLUng 6.10 use a Fat16/Fat32 disk or does it have to be etx3?
[04:10] <Randuni> I found the prob..thx all
[04:12] <SRN9> Hey just a qestion, anyone know how to get a video off of a verizon phone with sound?
[04:17] <bobleny> Hey,is there a reason why my screen saver doesn't come on? I'm running Kubuntu 7.10... There is no error.
[04:18] <Apple_Cat> sounds offtopic, SRN9; #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:20] <bobleny> What sounds offtopic?
[04:21] <bobleny> OK, this chat is dead today...
[04:21] <bobleny> Bye!
[04:21] <Apple_Cat> argh
[04:22] <asobi> heh
[04:25] <Dr_willis> Hmm...
[04:25] <maduser> w00t
[04:26] <Dr_willis> Ktorrent every os often just wants to start failing to save files/data... if i restart ktorrent it works fine.. then a few hrs later.. same problem
[04:30] <ere4si> kaffeine is a nice little app :)
[04:39] <re-align> I'm looking for a small mailserver that can be utilized in a standard Apache/MySQL/PHP setup by sites being hosted (via php scripting). Any recommendations?
[04:45] <re-align> !mailserver
[04:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu supports the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP) and provides mail server software of many kinds. You can install a basic email handling configuration with the "Mail server" task during installation, or with the "tasksel" command. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer and https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/email-services.html
[04:49] <re-align> ubotu, why is there no Kubuntu version of you?
[04:49] <franx> hi there
[04:49] <ere4si>   !hi
[04:49] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:50] <re-align> It's mostly dead in here, only ubotu to keep us company...:P
[04:50] <franx> i hope im not bothering anyone, but i want to clone one linux hard drive to another
[04:50] <franx> really?
[04:50] <dbglt> franx: dd!
[04:50] <franx> quiet eh
[04:50] <ere4si> !clone
[04:50] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[04:50] <franx> i need it aka ghost style cos the hard drive is failing
[04:51] <re-align> !backup
[04:51] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[04:51] <ere4si> mondo and mindi is what you're after
[04:52] <ere4si> they are both in the repos
[04:53] <franx> ere4si thanks for your answer however i dont think a package installed on the failing hard drive will assist me
[04:53] <franx> i need it to be external to the os
[04:53] <ere4si> franx: I use a knoppix dvd to do that
[04:54] <franx> can you tell me more?
[04:54] <ere4si> comes with mondo and mindi
[04:55] <ere4si> comes with lots of apps - if you have a partition somewhere to move stuff to it can save some stuff from ailing drives
[04:56] <franx> can i clone from hard drive to hard drive?
[04:56] <franx> or just make an iso?
[04:58] <ere4si> I use it to make a cd backup of an installation that will let me reinstall the system as it was - you might need two steps - I've never done it straight to hd
[04:58] <tahir> !flash
[04:58] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:00] <dwidmann> franx: dd will allow you to both of those things
[05:01] <dwidmann> *to do
[05:02] <ere4si> dd won't set up the mbr
[05:03] <ere4si> or partition etc
[05:04] <dwidmann> true, but if all you want is an image of a partition you'll be okay with it .....
[05:04] <dwidmann> I haven't ever really tried to see if it'd do a whole drive with partitions and all ...... you're sure it won't?
[05:04] <franx> i think ghost 4 linux might do what i want
[05:04] <ere4si> dd won't
[05:05] <ere4si> an image is no good if you can't boot to it
[05:06] <dwidmann> *shrug* grub can fix that pretty easily
[05:06] <ere4si> yep - you're right ther :)
[05:06] <ere4si> *there
[05:06] <franx> i need it the dummiest friendliest
[05:06] <franx> i appreciate the banter though
[05:07] <franx> i didnt think anyone would be awake
[05:07] <ere4si> 3 pm here :)
[05:07] <dwidmann> franx: I'm nocturnal during the week
[05:07] <franx> 2pm here ere4si
[05:07] <dwidmann> 1am here
[05:07] <franx> wowcrack addict?
[05:07] <re-align> 10pm here
[05:08] <dwidmann> nah, no wowcrack for me (satellite internet connection inhibits me from doing any real online gaming)
[05:08] <franx> oh bummer
[05:08] <franx> there are stacks of wowcrack addicts in .au even though the pings are horrible
[05:08] <re-align> But extreme lag is fun!
[05:08] <re-align> :P
[05:08] <dwidmann> My lag is exceedingly good right now, onlyl .... wait it's bad again ..... 891ms right now
[05:09] <dwidmann> the connection drops aren't fun
[05:09] <franx> how about internet when its raining?
[05:09] <franx> 0%?
[05:09] <dwidmann> Depends how hard it's raining, anything more than a slight rain and the connection drops
[05:09] <franx> !g4l
[05:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about g4l - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <franx> ouch
[05:10] <ere4si>  /msg ubotu !info ghost4linux
[05:10] <franx> hehehe
[05:10] <dwidmann>  /msg ubotu !info ghost4linux
 Package ghost4linux does not exist in gutsy
[05:10] <franx> newb ubotu
[05:11] <franx> =P
[05:11] <franx> nah i got it
[05:11] <franx> s'alright
[05:11] <ere4si> k
[05:11] <kgoetz> dd can do whole drive images
[05:11] <franx> yeah i know
[05:11] <ere4si> ibm uses mondo and mindi
[05:11] <franx> i just need to to be completely os independant
[05:12] <franx> just dump from one hd to another
[05:12] <franx> the old ghost used to do it
[05:12] <ere4si> that's a live cd then franx
[05:12] <franx> i dl ghost 14
[05:12] <franx> and its like some completely different program
[05:12] <kgoetz> mondo is good
[05:13] <franx> mondo will only make iso images as far as i read
[05:13] <kgoetz> you read wrong :)
[05:13] <franx> really?
[05:13] <franx> oO
[05:13] <franx> tell more
[05:13] <kgoetz> pretty sure
[05:13] <franx> cos it does seem pretty powerful
[05:13] <kgoetz> it can definitely restore over network (never done it, but saw the option)
[05:14] <kgoetz> tape, hdd, network, cd/dvd
[05:14] <franx> ok
[05:14] <ere4si> I restore the whole system from mbr to boot with mondo/mindi
[05:14] <tahir> !flash
[05:14] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:15] <franx> hmm ok
[05:15] <franx> ill dl knoppix livecd then
[05:15] <franx> sorry for doubting
[05:15] <franx> theres just so little info
[05:15] <re-align> Doubt is a good thing...most of the time...
[05:15] <kgoetz> !msgthebot | tahir
[05:15] <ubotu> tahir: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[05:16] <tahir> sorry
[05:17] <re-align> I'm looking for a small mailserver that can be utilized in a standard Apache/MySQL/PHP setup by sites being hosted (via php scripting). Any recommendations?
[05:18] <tahir> hmm
[05:18] <tahir> flash does not seemto be working for m
[05:18] <tahir> me*
[05:18] <tahir> in followed the unstructions but still nothing :(
[05:19] <re-align> <windows support voice>Have you tried restarting your computer?</windows support voice> :P You using Firefox?
[05:20] <kgoetz> tahir: if you asked a questionn it would be easier to help
[05:21] <ere4si> tahir: youtube is it?
[05:21] <tahir> yep
[05:21] <tahir> youtube is a good example
[05:21] <tahir> i see the pics on the home page, i cliuck the page and get directed to the video page
[05:21] <tahir> but just a black screen where the vid should be
[05:22] <ere4si> shockwave flash plugin from mozilla works for me tahir
[05:22] <tahir> even on konquerer?
[05:22] <ere4si> konq uses the same engine
[05:23] <tahir> ah kk, let me try it
[05:23] <re-align> I've had bad experiences with Konq... I use Firefox and have no problems.
[05:28] <Stoffer> what's the difference between the 8.04-beta-alternate iso and the -desktop iso?
[05:30] <kgoetz> desktop is a live cd
[05:31] <Zombocom> konqueror is awesome
[05:31] <Zombocom> I love the locate
[05:31] <Zombocom> split screen
[05:31] <Zombocom> fish
[05:31] <Zombocom> etch
[05:31] <Zombocom> all that shit
[05:31] <Zombocom> the file manager
[05:32] <kgoetz> !enter | Zombocom
[05:32] <ubotu> Zombocom: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:33] <Zombocom> um OH SORRY
[05:33] <Zombocom> I was in the wrong IRC SERVER
[05:33] <Zombocom> I forgot about the like sfw nature of #kubuntu... sorry sorry sorry
[05:33] <kgoetz> Zombocom: not sure what that was all about.
[05:35] <Dr_willis> swf nature?
[05:41] <re-align> I'm looking for a dynamic DNS with a linux compatible tool for updating the url to your server's IP. Any suggestions?
[05:41] <kgoetz> dyndns does iirc
[05:42] <re-align> Ah, good. I used to use no-ip, but that was under windoze, dunno if they have a linux tool.
[05:42] <re-align> Most companies don't seem to like supporting linux. :(
[05:43] <kgoetz> my router does dyndns, so i havent checked for client side tools personally
[05:43] <kgoetz> yeah :(
[05:43] <re-align> Yet half of them use linux for their servers and such...
[05:44] <kgoetz> because no ones told management yet ;)
[05:44] <re-align> And more and more offices are switching to linux too (especially with Windows S***sta).
[05:50] <Dr_willis> most of them cant see any profit in supporting linux. but they see profit in using linux
[05:52] <re-align> Exactly.
[05:54] <re-align> Most of them probably end up developing their own specialized drivers and software (for stuff they can't find or get the needed performance out of with freely available stuff). Yet, they never sell or release any of it.
[05:54] <re-align> With perhaps a few exceptions...
[05:55] <kgoetz> iirc ESR estimates 90% of code is written for in house use, and stays in house
[05:55] <re-align> I don;t think they realize just how large the linux community is, for personal or business.
[05:56] <re-align> They are probably right. And all of that is essentially money down the tubes unless they get alot of use out of what's developed.
[05:56] <re-align> Developers in those settings don't do it for free ya know...
[06:03] <kgoetz> re-align: so? if they had to write it in the first place they have to support it. theres no loss in making it public
[06:04] <re-align> Exactly.
[06:04] <re-align> And yet...they don't...
[06:04] <tahir> WOW
[06:04] <tahir> i just reached a new level of nub
[06:04] <tahir> i tried running an exe file in kubuntu
[06:04] <tahir> XD
[06:05] <re-align> Because they don't see any gain in it either...
[06:05] <re-align> I do it frequently. It's not working for you?
[06:05] <tahir> XD
[06:05] <tahir> brb
[06:06] <re-align> !wine | tahir
[06:06] <ubotu> tahir: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[06:06] <re-align> Hmm...lagbot? Or not a command?
[06:06] <re-align> ROFL
[06:07] <re-align> Seems it was lagbot...
[06:30] <crashhandler> why kopete doesnt support chinese character...why why...how can i possibly enable it?
[06:48] <Apple_Cat_> !chinese
[06:48] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[06:56] <orthos05847381> hello jucato
[06:57] <smurfslover> !testing
[06:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about testing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:57] <smurfslover> !testing
[06:57] <orthos05847381> jucato: may I pm u?
[06:58] <ere4si> smurfslover: ...
[06:59] <smurfslover> i'm looking for support for updating edgy to hardy
[07:00] <ere4si> smurfslover: you need to do that one release at a time
[07:00] <smurfslover> i'm on 7.10 i think
[07:00] <smurfslover> let me check
[07:01] <asobi> anyone here play nexuiz
[07:01] <ere4si> smurfslover: 7.10 is gutsy
[07:02] <smurfslover> how can i check
[07:02] <ere4si> e   f  g   h
[07:02] <ere4si> !version
[07:02] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[07:02] <asobi> what's a good fps game?
[07:02] <ere4si> urban terror has support
[07:03] <smurfslover> gutsy it is
[07:03] <kgoetz> nexuiz ftw
[07:03] <ere4si> !hardy | smurfslover
[07:03] <ubotu> smurfslover: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[07:03] <asobi> you play kgoetz?
[07:03] <smurfslover> bbl need to restart x to stop the upgrade tool
[07:03]  * asobi is trying ti decide a fps to install
[07:03] <kgoetz> asobi: did do. not currently though
[07:04] <asobi> how many people still play nexuiz?
[07:05]  * kgoetz doesnt fps anymore, or i'd still be doin nexuiz
[07:05] <crashhandler> the problem is i am just a beginner who wants to learn chinese...just knowing a little...so chinese channel cant help me...^_^;
[07:05] <crashhandler> why kopete doesnt support chinese character...why why...how can i possibly enable it?
[07:06] <kgoetz> crashhandler: install the chinese language files and fonts
[07:06] <crashhandler> all done.
[07:06] <crashhandler> gaim,firefox display chinese chars
[07:06] <crashhandler> but not konqueror n kopete
[07:06] <orthos05847381> jucato: hello!?
[07:06] <kgoetz> orthos05847381: can we help with something?
[07:07] <Dr_willis> Hmm.
[07:07] <ere4si> mmmm
[07:07] <asobi> hmmmm
[07:08] <orthos05847381> i need to speak with jucato
[07:08] <crashhandler> mmm...mmm
[07:08] <orthos05847381> :)
[07:08] <kgoetz> orthos05847381: then you have to wait for him to come back
[07:08] <orthos05847381> I want to interview him regarding Linux
[07:08] <orthos05847381> okay
[07:08] <kgoetz> orthos05847381: send him a PM and then wait for him to get back
[07:09] <orthos05847381> thanks kgoetz
[07:09] <kgoetz> np
[07:13] <asobi> how big is nexuiz exactly?
[07:22] <asobi> how do i save folder view options in konqueror?
[07:25] <ere4si>  how do I get dolphin to open with hidden files shown?
[07:26] <asobi> alt+.
[07:27] <jorge_> hi!
[07:27] <ere4si> that opens them after dolphin is open - I want them open as default
[07:28] <jorge_> Someone Speak Spanish?
[07:28] <asobi> !es
[07:28] <ubotu> En el canal donde esta solo se premite hablar ingles. Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[07:28] <ere4si> !es
[07:28] <asobi> ah
[07:28] <jorge_> thanks!
[07:28] <ere4si> hehe
[07:28] <asobi> so you want the same thing i want but with dolphine
[07:28] <Dr_willis> asobi, settings -> save view profile
[07:29] <Dr_willis> Make new profiles if you want more.
[07:29] <ere4si> can do it with nautilus thunar etc
[07:29] <asobi> how do i make it open that way?
[07:29] <dwidmann> ere4si: not sure that you can, but it saves that on a per folder basis.
[07:29] <Dr_willis> asobi,  save it as the default named one.
[07:29] <asobi> i did
[07:30] <ere4si> dwidmann: that's alot of folders !
[07:30] <asobi> i still have to load it everytime
[07:30] <Dr_willis> save view profile "File aaManagement" works here for me.
[07:30] <Dr_willis> not 'Default'
[07:30] <dwidmann> ere4si: it creates a file .d3lphinview
[07:30] <dwidmann> ere4si: in each folder
[07:30] <caris_mere> I need help getting kdm to work...I installed kde4 and used kde4-kdm as my session manager, then uninstalled all that...and now my computer never makes it to kdm to login
[07:31] <asobi> hmm
[07:31] <Dr_willis> caris_mere,  try a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm' ?
[07:32] <ere4si> well that is pretty poor then considering the level other file managers achieve
[07:32] <dwidmann> Now that's a pretty funny leaving message ....
[07:32] <caris_mere> Dr_willis: does that just automatically work? I thought I tried that yesterday, but it didn't help
[07:32] <Dr_willis> caris_mere,  it works for me.
[07:32] <caris_mere> ok
[07:33] <dwidmann> ere4si: go to kde.org and put in a wishlist request then
[07:33] <asobi> wrong button -_-
[07:33] <ere4si> blaghhh
[07:33] <ere4si> it's basic
[07:34] <Dr_willis> Unless your konqueror is sgetting laujched and told to use a different profile.
[07:34] <unix_infidel> anyone know where i can find lighter ubuntu server images.
[07:34] <unix_infidel> effectively network installs?
[07:34] <Dr_willis> The !install factoid has some info on that unix_infidel
[07:34] <caris_mere> Dr_willis: can you tell me what your "/etc/X11/default-display-manager" says?
[07:35] <Dr_willis> !install | unix_infidel
[07:35] <ubotu> unix_infidel: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[07:35] <Dr_willis> caris_mere,  /usr/sbin/gdm
[07:35] <Dr_willis> caris_mere,  since its a ubuntu box. :)
[07:35] <jussio1> !minimal | unix_infidel
[07:35] <ubotu> unix_infidel: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[07:36] <unix_infidel> jussio1: awesome.
[07:36] <asobi> nope, it still load web browser view first
[07:36] <jussio1> :)
[07:37] <Dr_willis> asobi,  HOW are you launching the thing?
[07:37] <Dr_willis> asobi,  i use the home button in the panel.
[07:37] <caris_mere> Dr_willis: mine says /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kdm  Does that seem ok, since I removed kde4?
[07:37] <Dr_willis> caris_mere,  seems totally WRONG to me.
[07:38] <asobi> i set a quick launch button for konqueror
[07:38] <Dr_willis> asobi,  thats why its defaulting to the web profile
[07:38] <Dr_willis> kfmclient openProfile filemanagement
[07:38] <Dr_willis> launches My Home filemanager.
[07:38] <asobi> how can i default it to file manager?
[07:39] <Dr_willis> is there a 'home' icon in the menu? drag it to the desktop/panel  see if that works
[07:39] <asobi> i deleted that button
[07:39] <jussio1> !dolphin
[07:39] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[07:40] <caris_mere> Dr_willis: I had read in Kubuntu forums that I could change it to /usr/bin/kdm .  What do you think?
[07:40] <ere4si> How can I get dolphin to open folders with hidden files shown as default?
[07:40] <Dr_willis> caris_mere,  that makes MUCH more sence to me. then  to the kde4 kdm login tool.. which you removed me
[07:41] <Dr_willis> caris_mere,  thas what that dpkg-reconfigure command i gave earlier basicially doies
[07:42] <Plantain> !automate
[07:42] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[07:42] <caris_mere> Dr_willis: I used the dpkg-reconfigure command, but it still puts the kde2 kdm in that file
[07:43] <asobi> can dolphine split view into top/bottom?
[07:43] <Dr_willis> caris_mere,  that sounds like a bug to me.
[07:44] <dwidmann> ere4si: doesn't seem to be a dcop command for flipping it either, so I think that rules out the option of turning on view hidden files within a startup script
[07:44] <Dr_willis> dolphine was rather basic lsat i used it.
[07:44] <ere4si> dwidmann: thnx for the efort :)
[07:44] <ere4si> *effort
[07:45] <dwidmann> ere4si: well, that was d3lphin anyway, I wonder about dolphin
[07:45] <ere4si> it's such a necessary feature for me
[07:45] <jussio1> the kde4 dolphin does not have the problem with hidden files
[07:45]  * dwidmann installs kdbus
[07:45] <asobi> how can i default konqueror into file manager instead of browser?
[07:45] <jussio1> !dolphin | asobi
[07:45] <ubotu> asobi: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[07:46] <jussio1> asobi: sorry
[07:46] <asobi> juss, i am being unclear. when i click on konqueror, i want it to open as file manager, not web browser
[07:47] <jussio1> asobi: read wrong. change your menu item command to open: kfmclient openProfile filemanagement
[07:47] <asobi> newb here. how do i do that?
[07:48] <dwidmann> /usr/bin/konqueror --profile filemanagement works also
[07:48] <asobi> and i have it set as a quick launch button now
[07:48] <jussio1> asobi: right click on it, edit item
[07:48] <caris_mere> Dr_willis: I am currently getting in by using the failsafe bootup and then typing kdm art the command line...and it has been working
[07:48] <jussio1> in the kmenu that is
[07:49] <Dr_willis> caris_mere,  you could just put 'kdm' in the rc.local :)
[07:49] <asobi> ah
[07:49] <asobi> and change cmd
[07:49] <Dr_willis> im glad i never tried the kde4 stuff yet.
[07:49] <jussio1> yes :)
[07:49] <caris_mere> I wish I hadn't
[07:50] <asobi> thank you
[07:50] <jussio1> asobi: yw
[07:50] <dwidmann> awww, kdbus doesn't seem to want to work :(
[07:51] <asobi> why did they change to dolphine? konqueror is superior ~_~
[07:52] <dwidmann> asobi: good question .... konqueror > d3lphin.
[07:53] <Dr_willis> they wanted to make things more 'user friendly'
[07:54]  * asobi finds konqueror more intuitive @_@
[07:54] <asobi> wow, kde menu editor is great
[07:55] <dwidmann> indeed
[07:55] <dwidmann> Dr_willis: bah ..... screw user friendly
[07:56] <Dr_willis> dont get me started on bending over backwards for users that dont want to learn  how to use their tools. :)
[07:56] <Dr_willis> But hay,, i tend to use mc in a xterm  90% of the time
[07:56] <asobi> haha
[07:56] <asobi> mc is NOT user friendly =P
[07:57] <simula> i figured out how to set up and install my second sata drive, but i'm having permissions problems
[07:58] <simula> i have chmod 666 /dev/sdb1
[07:58] <Dr_willis> asobi,  i find it very user friendly
[07:58] <simula> and also chmod 666 /archive (the mount point)
[07:58] <caris_mere> Dr_willis: it works now...did the manual changing of the session manager
[07:58] <Dr_willis> its rather stright forward and everything is lavled.. it says F8 = Delete...
[07:58] <Dr_willis> what more do ya want.
[07:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:58]  * asobi is visual =P
[07:58] <simula> but when i use a non su terminal and try to cd to /archive i get "permission denied"
[07:58] <Dr_willis> mc is very visual.
[07:58] <dwidmann> Dr_willis: kioslaves?
[07:58] <Dr_willis> 2 panes, a from and to... :)
[07:58] <asobi> pictures
[07:58] <asobi> gui
[07:58] <Dr_willis> dwidmann,  wthats what the fusekio stuff is for
[07:59] <Dr_willis> asobi,  mc can show images and videos on the console.
[07:59] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:59] <simula> i'm a total linux newbie, but the console is awesome
[07:59] <asobi> oh?!
[07:59] <simula> totally sweet
[07:59] <Dr_willis> or under X it even launches  other apps
[07:59] <Dr_willis> or at least it CAN if configured right
[07:59]  * asobi only tried mc once...maybe i will look at it again
[07:59] <Dr_willis> when you are doing some system rescue and need to do some complex filemanagement from the terminal. Mc is hard to beat
[08:00] <asobi> mc is powerful...just not user friendly =P
[08:00] <simula> does anyone know how to give a normal user permissions to a mount point when chmod 666 doesn't do the trick?
[08:00]  * jussio1 feels this discussion is getting offtopic, can we move back to support please?
[08:00] <Dr_willis> asobi,  i define it as bveing user friendly.
[08:00] <dwidmann> ummm, fine, off to offtopic I go
[08:00] <Dr_willis> userfriendly does not have to mean crippled.
[08:00] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:00] <Dr_willis> simula,  you normally DONT EVER chmod a mountpoint.
[08:01] <Dr_willis> simula,  the fstab has a 'user' or 'users' opton to allow the users to mount filesystems
[08:01] <Dr_willis> specific filesystem have other options as well
[08:01] <simula> i dinked around in fstab with pico.... i guess i'll do more fstab research
[08:01] <simula> thanks dr. willis
[08:01] <mot_> ugh
[08:01] <mot_> how do i install xgl in kubuntu 7.10?
[08:01] <Dr_willis> fstab and mounting - are a must learn about aspect of linux. :)
[08:01] <Dr_willis> !xgl
[08:01] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[08:02] <dwidmann> simula: man fstab = good source of research
[08:02] <simula> thanks dwidmann... thanks to you guys i'm starting to get up to speed on this linux thing :)
[08:02] <mot_> also, i installed the linux-restricted- drivers package but when i go to the restricted drivers app. and enter my root password it still stays greyed out and i can't enable the restricted nvidia drivers...
[08:02] <Dr_willis> mot_,  i thoght it wasnted the users 'sudo' password. Not the root users password
[08:03] <mot_> same password
[08:03] <mot_> i enable root.
[08:03] <Dr_willis> you could try a kdesu restricted-manager (if thats the proper name)
[08:04] <mot_> also
[08:04] <mot_> i have all of those packages for compiz installed
[08:04] <mot_> it's still claiming xgl isn't there
[08:04] <mot_> is there an xorg.conf config util?
[08:04] <asobi> what gpu mot?
[08:05] <mot_> nvidia
[08:05] <asobi> -_-  what nvidia?
[08:05] <mot_> 6800 ultra
[08:05] <Dr_willis> nvidia has its own (2 of them) config tools to config the xorg.conf file
[08:05] <Dr_willis> nvid<tab>  :)
[08:05] <asobi> not familiar with that :/
[08:06] <Dr_willis> Oh i see 3 now..  nvidia-glx-config     nvidia-settings       nvidia-xconfig
[08:06] <jussio1> mot_: you shouldnt need xgl for nvidia
[08:06] <Dr_willis> jussio1,  i was about to mention that also.. :)
[08:06] <mot_> also, one more question
[08:06] <jussio1> nvidia supports aiglx
[08:06] <mot_> yakuake won't retain my settings
[08:06] <Dr_willis> in fact xgl i think can caue problems if you install it on a nvidia system and try to remove it.
[08:07] <mot_> whenever i reboot, the height/width of yakuake have returned to default (though the schema remains the same) - ideas?
[08:09] <asobi> hmm
[08:10] <asobi> how do i get rid of klamav from systray?
[08:12] <Dr_willis> right click on it?
[08:13] <asobi> tried :/
[08:14] <asobi> kmenu setting has systray unchecked
[08:16] <Dr_willis> kmenu?  what does that have to do with klamav>
[08:17]  * Dr_willis installs  klamav to see..
[08:17] <asobi> i meant kmenu editor thingy
[08:17] <asobi> oh whoa, it's not that of a big deal...i don't want to to go through the trouble of installing it
[08:17] <Dr_willis> What does the kmenu editor have to do with klamvin tye system tray? right click on the icon in the systemtray
[08:18] <asobi> the kmenu editor has a checkbox asking if you want it in systray
[08:18] <Dr_willis> Its a whole 15mb! find a virus scanner for window thats   under that! :)
[08:18] <Dr_willis> the kmenu editor edits the K menu... I dont see  where thats comming from.. :)
[08:18] <Dr_willis> or somthing has a confusing name
[08:18] <asobi> when i right click -> quit, it remains in systray @_@
[08:18] <urlauber> hi! is there a way in kate to search&replace in all open files?
[08:19] <asobi> oh ok
[08:19] <asobi> forget kmenu editor
[08:19] <Dr_willis> Right click on the klamav icon in the system tray -> quit
[08:19] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:19] <asobi>  <asobi> when i right click -> quit, it remains in systray @_@
[08:20] <asobi> it said that it won't quit if it's updating or scanning
[08:20] <asobi> but it's doing neither
[08:20] <asobi> far as i can tell
[08:21] <asobi> maybe i should kill it from terminal
[08:21] <jussio1> id wait a little
[08:22] <jussio1> try again in a bit, its possible it is doing something...
[08:22] <Dr_willis> it may ust be slow to download the updates
[08:23] <asobi> it shows when it's updating
[08:23] <asobi> not showing now
[08:23] <asobi> i wait
[08:23] <asobi> it's not a big deal
[08:24]  * asobi is picky about systray clutter >.<
[08:24] <asobi> thanks for all the help so far^^
[08:25] <simula> i love it that i don't have to reboot :)
[08:25] <simula> mount -a... yeah!
[08:26] <KalEl> does ktorrent have a command line interface?
[08:27] <jussio1> no, but bittorrent does
[08:31] <Dr_willis> disable auto-updates for klamav -> and you can then quit it from the system tray
[08:31] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:39] <ubuntu> hi
[08:40] <ubuntu> can anybody help me out to  connect me to the internet?
[08:40] <orthos05847381> you are connected to the internet
[08:40] <ubuntu> i'm from Windows
[08:40] <ubuntu> using VirtualBox
[08:40] <orthos05847381> oh ok, what type of connection do you have?
[08:41] <ubuntu> ADSL
[08:41] <ubuntu> I have a USB ADSL modem
[08:41] <orthos05847381> and you like to connect ubuntu to the internet right?
[08:41] <ubuntu> yep
[08:41] <jussio1> !adsl
[08:41] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[08:41] <ubuntu> btw, i installed the firmware
[08:42] <ubuntu> the LED's seems to be synched
[08:42] <orthos05847381> thats great
[08:42] <ubuntu> synched=synchronized
[08:42] <orthos05847381> have you tried running pppoeconf?
[08:42] <ubuntu> yep
[08:42] <ubuntu> but
[08:42] <orthos05847381> what did it say?
[08:42] <ubuntu> i says sorry at last
[08:42] <ubuntu> it  says sorry at last
[08:42] <orthos05847381> "sorry at last"
[08:43] <ubuntu> no .it says..."Sorry..I tried to configure" blah blah...
[08:43] <ubuntu> it detects my ethernet too
[08:43] <ubuntu> as
[08:43] <ubuntu> eth01
[08:44] <orthos05847381> strange, sorry man, thats beyond me
[08:44] <ubuntu> oh
[08:45] <ubuntu> won't be there any probs. if i get a router?
[08:45] <Apple_Cat_> so you can get on the internet on your host system? or is it a problem with the host and guest ?
[08:45] <ubuntu> my PC has a dual boot system
[08:46] <Apple_Cat_> so you have windows on one and kubuntu on the other?
[08:46] <ubuntu> yep
[08:46] <Apple_Cat_> and there is no internet on the kubuntu one ?
[08:46] <ubuntu> yep
[08:46] <ubuntu> any help?
[08:47] <Apple_Cat_> are you trying to use dhcp ?
[08:47] <ubuntu> no
[08:47] <ubuntu> i have enabled the roaming mode....that's all
[08:49] <ubuntu> why isn't kubuntu detecting my ethernet card even it's listed in the Driver Database?
[08:50] <Apple_Cat_> can you paste the output of lspci into a pastebin ?
[08:51] <ubuntu> in here?
[08:51] <Apple_Cat_> !paste
[08:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:51] <ubuntu> ok
[08:51] <ubuntu> just give me 5 mnts...
[08:51] <ubuntu> i'll be back
[08:56] <gigi> ..
[08:59] <DarkriftX> i just installed kubuntu 7.10. during boot, i get some odd screen displays (shades of grey and lines changing colors/moving across the screen). I get this on the livecd if i dont use the acpi=off boot param. last time i installed, this was auto added for me. what is the easiest/best way to boot with this option from grub? i tried adding that line to the boot commands and it didnt seem to work
[09:05] <DarkriftX> think i found it
[09:06] <DarkriftX> or not
[09:08] <christopher> guten morgen jemand da der mir bitte helfen kann
[09:09] <kgoetz> !de | christopher
[09:09] <ubotu> christopher: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:10] <kgoetz> christopher: or you could ask here, if you use english :)
[09:12] <ubuntu> im back
[09:12] <kgoetz> wb
[09:13] <Jucato> orthos05847381: pong. how can I help you?
[09:14] <DarkriftX> how can i edit my boot params permanently?
[09:14] <naught102> anyone else having trouble opening konqueror? I'm getting "QDir::currentDirPath: getcwd() failed"
[09:14] <Dr_willis> DarkriftX,  chedk the menu.lst file.. BACKUP the thing first
[09:14] <kgoetz> DarkriftX: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:14] <DarkriftX> nice, ty
[09:16] <ubuntu> i pasted the lspci to the link u gave
[09:16] <ubuntu> lspci results
[09:17] <Apple_Cat_> do you have the URL to the page ?
[09:17] <ubuntu> hello?
[09:17] <ubuntu> yeah
[09:17] <ubuntu> wait
[09:17] <ubuntu> here u go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60834/
[09:18] <ubuntu> did u read it?
[09:19] <kgoetz> ubuntu: dont be so impatient, and use proper words
[09:19] <Apple_Cat_> yep, so you said you aren't using dhcp, how did you set it up then ?
[09:20] <ubuntu> wat? i didn't set up anything in DHCP..
[09:20] <Apple_Cat_> I know, but how did you set your networking up if you aren't using DHCP ?
[09:21] <ubuntu> it's autoconfigured i think..I have installed the firmware and that's all..Is there any way to overcome this problem?
[09:23] <ubuntu> firmware means the firmware for the USB ADSL MODEM
[09:24] <urlauber> hi! is there a way in kate to search&replace in all open files?
[09:25] <Apple_Cat_> have you tried to use DHCP? it might end up making things easier, unless of course you have a particular reason for choosing not to
[09:25] <Dr_willis> urlauber,  hit f1 in kate and check its docs?
[09:26] <DarkriftX> during boot, before x starts, its trying to init my wifi, but failing with irq_ready timeout, and the boot process isnt going anywhere
[09:26] <DarkriftX> how do i make it just continue
[09:26] <DarkriftX> it keeps doing the timeouts every once in a while
[09:26] <ubuntu> i clicked the Network monitor applet icon->Manual Configuration->
[09:27] <ubuntu> and selected DHCP
[09:28] <ubuntu> it shows that the icons of the two monitors are connected...
[09:29] <ubuntu> is there any way to configure the DHCP other than that?
[09:30] <Apple_Cat_> ..wait you are on Kubuntu and not Ubuntu ?
[09:30] <Dr_willis> theres the config files in  /etc/ or the command line commands. i guess
[09:31] <ubuntu> i'm using gnome
[09:31] <Apple_Cat_> Ok, try #ubuntu then : )
[09:31] <ubuntu> what?
[09:32] <ubuntu> does that matter?
[09:32] <Apple_Cat_> This room is for KDE support, whereas ubuntu is for GNOME support
[09:32] <ubuntu> ok
[09:32] <ubuntu> thanks anyway
[09:32] <Apple_Cat_> yep, hope you get it sorted out ^.^
[09:53] <crazyj> How can I get the sd cards to read from my hp printer?
[09:57] <Dr_willis> crazyj,  good luck there. Even my widiws machines need special drivers for that.
[09:58] <Dr_willis> They dident just make it a usb-media-reader hub (well this is on a canon printer)  i think my hp was the same way.
[09:59] <crazyj> on windows I had no probs but now that I switched i cant get anything
[10:00] <Dr_willis> sure there wasent some special drivers that got installed?
[10:01] <Dr_willis> could try a sudo fdisk -l, and see if the cards are seen
[10:01] <ramzay__> How can i unrar my files ?
[10:03] <Dr_willis> !rar ramzay__
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rar ramzay__ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <jussio1> !rar | ramzay__
[10:03] <ubotu> ramzay__: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[10:03] <crazyj> the fidsk -I looks confused LOL
[10:03] <Dr_willis> ramzay__,  unrar e whatever.rar
[10:03] <ramzay__> apt-get install unrar
[10:04] <ramzay__> than what ?
[10:04] <jussio1> ramzay__: what Dr_willis said...
[10:04] <ramzay__> thank u
[10:05] <Dr_willis> then man unrar
[10:05] <Dr_willis> heh.
[10:05] <crazyj> is there a way to "scan" for new stoage dev?
[10:06] <Dr_willis> when a device is plugged in. dmesg shows messages about it. and adds the proper /dev/ entris normally
[10:06] <Dr_willis> fdisk -l as in LIST.. not i...
[10:09] <crazyj> looks like that brings up mr hard drive
[10:09] <crazyj> my*
[10:20] <stefg> Hi, as a gnome-victim i haven't touched KDE for years. How does KDE4 compare to KDE3 in terms of memory footprint, is it feeling more heavy? i have a 800Mhz/256 MB laptop, and i wonder if it's worth to try a Kubuntu 8.04 install on it
[10:22] <rawdeal> hello.. im looking for the links for my adept installer
[10:22] <rawdeal> i got 2 there only
[10:22] <rawdeal> for 2party software
[10:22] <rawdeal> ehh 3 party
[10:23] <rawdeal> someone that can help me please? :)
[10:24] <jussio1> rawdeal: what exactly are you after?
[10:24] <rawdeal> im trying to find software i found be4,.. and now i cant find any of them
[10:25] <rawdeal> like amsn valknut and so
[10:25] <jussio1> !info amsn
[10:25] <ubotu> amsn (source: amsn): An MSN messenger written in Tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97RC1+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 3371 kB, installed size 10956 kB
[10:26] <jussio1> hmm, if you go to adept, manage repositories, then make sure all the boxes are clicked.
[10:26] <rawdeal> they are.,,
[10:26] <rawdeal> but in third party software i have 2 links..
[10:27] <rawdeal> and i had more before i think
[10:27] <jussio1> rawdeal: so you cannot find amsn now?
[10:27] <rawdeal> cant find it at all when i do search
[10:27] <rawdeal> apt-cache and adept
[10:28] <jussio1> rawdeal: aha, we dont support third party software repositories, you need to add them yourself - there are very many out there.
[10:28] <rawdeal> oki.. where can i find the links to add?
[10:29] <jussio1> rawdeal: it depends on what you want. thats like asking, where can i find programs for download?
[10:30] <rawdeal> hehe.. well the software i find.. but having probs with installing them
[10:30] <jussio1> rawdeal: like which software in particular?
[10:31] <rawdeal> valknut linuxdcpp dctc and so on
[10:31] <rawdeal> cant find the libs needed and so
[10:32] <jussio1> rawdeal: as far as I understand, linuxdcpp is in the repositories. which version of kubuntu are you using?
[10:32] <rawdeal> 7.10
[10:33] <jussio1> rawdeal: and you are certain you have the universe repository on?
[10:33] <jussio1> !info valknut
[10:33] <ubotu> valknut (source: valknut): graphical client for Direct Connect. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7-2.1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 884 kB, installed size 3064 kB
[10:33] <jussio1> !info linuxdcpp
[10:33] <ubotu> linuxdcpp (source: linuxdcpp): Linux port of the famous dc++ client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.1.cvs20070523-1 (gutsy), package size 1079 kB, installed size 3092 kB
[10:34] <rawdeal> where to find that?
[10:35] <rawdeal> i have marked all in software sources
[10:35] <jussio1> rawdeal: it will be one of the checkboxesin manage repositories
[10:36] <rawdeal> and where is that?
[10:36] <jussio1> adept -> mananage repositories
[10:36] <jussio1> its in the adept menu
[10:37] <rawdeal> no universe there
[10:37] <lyhana8> hi, is it ok to blacklist intel_rng ? to solve the boot slowing ?
[10:37] <jussio1> on the kubuntu software tab
[10:38] <jussio1> rawdeal: there should be a tab with them all listed main, universe, restricted multiverse (in brackets)
[10:40] <rawdeal> yeah se them now,,
[10:40] <rawdeal> all marked
[10:41] <jussio1> ok, so close the dialogue, and it should ask you to reload your sources, do so.
[10:41] <rawdeal> it has been there all the time
[10:42] <rawdeal> but can it help do get the upgrade?
[10:42] <jussio1> ok, so you should be able to now find the programs you mentioned before
[10:42] <jussio1> gah, i got to run. see you
[10:42] <rawdeal> nope cant find them
[10:42] <rawdeal> oki bye bye
[10:47] <brmassa> guys, how can i edit a document as a root on HardyKDE4? im putting "kdesu kate" but its saying that kate is no a valid command...
[10:52] <dwidmann> brmassa: maybe someone in #kubuntu-kde4 would know
[10:52] <Apple_Cat_> #kubuntu-kde4
[10:53] <Apple_Cat_> ^,^
[10:53] <brmassa> thanks.
[11:09] <christopher> jetzt stimm ja garnix mehr
[11:10] <christopher> noch jemand da?
[11:12] <dcorbin_work> What's the name of the (gui) command that lets me add and remove packages?
[11:12] <dcorbin_work> (Drawing a total blank)
[11:12] <dcorbin_work> The "Adept Installer" application isn't quite what I"m looking for.
[11:15] <algyz> dcorbin_work:  synaptic maybe
[11:16] <dcorbin_work> algyz: I don't think.  I think it's part of the adept family, but when I click on Adept Installer, it gives me a very different view than the one I want.  I want to see all the package names and version.
[11:17] <algyz> which version of adept?
[11:18] <dcorbin_work> algyz: "2.1 Cruiser"
[11:19] <dcorbin_work> My /real/ problem is that when I try to start oocalc, it says: ** (process:7516): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit .
[11:19] <dcorbin_work> I was hoping remove and re-installing would correct this.
[11:46] <paule118> de hi
[11:46] <paule118> ist de on ?
[11:47] <Pici> !de
[11:47] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:03] <Kheops> hi
[12:03] <Kheops> i have a problem can somebody helps me ?
[12:05] <Kheops> i have 2 HDD - 1 Master , 1 Slave.Both HDD have kubuntu installed on them, but i want to format the slave hdd
[12:06] <Kheops> i mounted and when i use cfdisk -> Opened disk read-only - you have no permission to write
[12:06] <Kheops> can somebody tell me what to do ?
[12:06] <dcorbin_work> openoffice won't start for me.  What's the best way, to re-install OO and everything it needs?
[12:07] <algyz> Kheops:  change ownership/permissions
[12:07] <Kheops> i did
[12:07] <Kheops> i gave 777
[12:07] <Kheops> and same message
[12:07] <algyz> Kheops:  kdesu konqueror, then you can change in easy way
[12:07] <Kheops> and then ?
[12:07] <algyz> then right mouse on the folder, properties
[12:08] <Kheops> i said i change the permission !
[12:08]  * Jucato thinks it is cfdisk that should be run with sudo
[12:08] <algyz> Kheops: check them, if everything is ok with write access
[12:08] <Kheops> it is
[12:08] <Kheops> !
[12:08] <Kheops> i just check
[12:09] <Kheops> root root root
[12:09] <Kheops> 777
[12:09] <Kheops> to hdd40
[12:09] <Kheops> i want to format
[12:09] <Kheops> he have kubuntu on it..
[12:09] <algyz> sudo qtparted then
[12:09] <Kheops> ?
[12:09] <Jucato> Kheops: did you run cfdisk with sudo?
[12:09] <Kheops> yep
[12:09] <Jucato> algyz: never use sudo for GUI apps
[12:10] <Jucato> use kdesu
[12:10] <Kheops> that messeger come
[12:10] <Kheops> jucato
[12:10] <Kheops> can u help me ?
[12:10] <Kheops> finish to format
[12:10] <Jucato> I already tried. but failed. so no
[12:10] <algyz> Jucato:  I know this :)
[12:10] <Kheops> so can i get some real help ?
[12:10] <Jucato> !patience
[12:10] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:11] <Kheops> 2 HDD both with kubuntu installed
[12:11] <Kheops> but 1 is slave and another is master
[12:11] <Kheops> i want to format the slave
[12:11] <Kheops> ...
[12:12] <Kheops> Carlos can u help me ?
[12:13] <algyz> go to this media (cd /address), and type ls -l
[12:13] <algyz> and paste output somewhere
[12:14] <Kheops> ky
[12:14] <Kheops> done
[12:14] <Kheops> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    6 2007-03-03 20:21 cdrom -> cdrom0
[12:14] <Kheops> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2007-03-03 20:21 cdrom0
[12:14] <Kheops> drwxrwxrwx  5 root root 4096 2008-02-07 19:55 hda5
[12:14] <Kheops> drwxrwxrwx 21 root root 4096 2008-03-24 12:32 hdd40
[12:15] <pag> Kheops, unmont the partition, install qtparted, run it with root priveledges, format the drive, enjoy.
[12:15] <algyz> good idea i think
[12:15] <Kheops> hmmm
[12:15] <Kheops> why i must install qtparted ?
[12:15] <flipstar> !enter | Kheops
[12:15] <ubotu> Kheops: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:16] <algyz> Kheops:  actually it's good idea to format from live cd
[12:16] <Kheops> i just did
[12:16] <Kheops> :)
[12:16] <algyz> without success?
[12:16] <Kheops> that's why i have 2 kubuntu instaled
[12:16] <Kheops> :))
[12:16] <Kheops> because i want to format the hdd
[12:16] <algyz> you're really fan of kubuntu ;)
[12:16] <Kheops> but...i can't format without installing kubuntu
[12:17] <Kheops> yes i'm
[12:17] <Kheops> ;)
[12:17] <pag> Kheops, errm.. when I last checked live cd had qtparted (and parted if you prefer cli) installed on it - no need to install when using those
[12:18] <Kheops> pag i can't format without installing
[12:18] <Kheops> belive me
[12:18] <Kheops> i try
[12:18] <algyz> Kheops:  no, you can
[12:18] <Kheops> hmm how ?
[12:18] <Kheops> i enter the settup..
[12:19] <Kheops> i formatted and then pres cancel.
[12:19] <Kheops> to exit installation
[12:19] <pag> Kheops, no. you don't enter the setup
[12:19] <Kheops> and HDD still same
[12:19] <Kheops> :)
[12:19] <algyz> it is not necessary
[12:19] <pag> Kheops, you press alt+f2 and type 'kdesudo qtparted'
[12:19] <algyz> Kheops:  just run qparted, dude
[12:19] <Kheops> ...... i don't know that man
[12:19] <algyz> now you know
[12:19] <Kheops> now i unmount my partition
[12:20] <Kheops> what i must do
[12:20] <Kheops> to run qtparted
[12:20] <algyz> kdesu qparted
[12:20] <Kheops> ky
[12:20] <Kheops> how can i see if i have
[12:20] <Kheops> the program
[12:20] <Kheops> ?
[12:20] <pag> algyz, hmm.. are you sure, it's qparted instead of qtparted?
[12:20] <algyz> it's not started?
[12:20] <Kheops> :)
[12:20] <algyz> not sure :/
[12:20] <Kheops> i duno if i have it
[12:21] <Kheops> command not found
[12:21] <Kheops> qparted
[12:21] <Kheops> :)
[12:21] <Kheops> i don't have it i think
[12:21] <pag> Kheops, open konsole (you know how to do that, right?) and type 'sudo apt-get install qtparted'
[12:21] <algyz> it is qtparted
[12:21] <Corty> hi
[12:21] <Kheops> yep
[12:21] <Kheops> 10x
[12:22] <Kheops> just apt-get install qtparted because i'm running as root
[12:22] <Kheops> :)
[12:22] <algyz> wise
[12:22] <Kheops> done
[12:22] <Kheops> and now ?
[12:23] <flipstar> Kheops: why you running as root? this might be the problem
[12:23] <algyz> kdesu qtparted
[12:23] <algyz> oops
[12:23] <algyz> just qtparted
[12:23] <Kheops> pag
[12:23] <Kheops> where are u my friend ?
[12:23] <algyz> or better type exit, then with kdesu
[12:23] <Kheops> tell me what to do
[12:24] <algyz> Kheops:  exit
[12:24] <algyz> Kheops kdesu qtparted
[12:24] <algyz> Kheops:  I hope you already unmounted partition
[12:24] <pag> Kheops, believe algyz :)
[12:25] <Kheops> wait !
[12:25] <Kheops> i run qtparted with root privilege ?>
[12:25] <algyz> sure
[12:25] <pyro17> so qtparted froze and corrupted my media partiton
[12:26] <pyro17> but i think everything important was backed up
[12:26] <pyro17> so im just going to format it and put kubuntu right non
[12:26] <pyro17> on*
[12:26] <Kheops> command qparted not found
[12:26] <Kheops> algyz:
[12:26] <algyz> Kheops:  qtparted
[12:27] <Kheops> yep
[12:27] <Kheops> it's works
[12:27] <Kheops> :L)
[12:27] <Kheops> and now ?
[12:27] <algyz> format
[12:27] <Kheops> how ?
[12:28] <pyro17> Kheops there should be options just man qtparted
[12:29] <pyro17> unless your using the gui one
[12:29] <pyro17> then its pretty straight foward
[12:29] <Kheops> :)
[12:29] <Kheops> yes
[12:29] <Kheops> i look
[12:29] <Kheops> it's nice grafics
[12:29] <Kheops> 10x
[12:29] <Kheops> a lot
[12:29] <pyro17> are you formating an entire drive, or partitioning it
[12:29] <Kheops> now i just read the man and search in the new program
[12:29] <Kheops> hmm entire
[12:30] <LimCore> why ubuntu have applications that do not work at all ?
[12:30] <Kheops> i just want a big partition
[12:30] <pyro17> and your using the qui one?
[12:30] <pyro17> qui*
[12:30] <pyro17> fawk, gui*
[12:30] <Elvis> Hello!
[12:30] <Elvis> I need help with installing something
[12:30] <flipstar> LimCore: which application you mean ?
[12:30] <algyz> Elvis:  WHAT KIND OF?
[12:31] <LimCore> flipstar: scponlyc - doesnt work at all in ubuntu 64
[12:31] <Elvis> Teeworlds
[12:31] <LimCore> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scponly/+bug/122715
[12:31] <Elvis> a platform game
[12:31] <LimCore> bug reported 9 months ago, and still not fixed
[12:32] <flipstar> LimCore: is this an ubuntu app ?
[12:32] <flipstar> ubotu cant find it
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cant find it - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <LimCore> flipstar: open the bug report above
[12:32] <Elvis> Can you help?
[12:33] <Kheops> algyz: what is good ext3 ext2 ?
[12:33] <Kheops> or what
[12:33] <Kheops> :)
[12:33] <silverblade> Since installing compiz-fusion my KDE System Tray doesn't seem to work properly. Kopete and the update notifier both appear in a separate window. XChat however works fine.
[12:33] <Elvis> How i can install teewars?
[12:33] <Elvis> teeworlds*
[12:33] <algyz> Kheops:  ext3 better, because ext2 doesn't support files, larger than 4GB
[12:33] <LimCore> Elvis: sudo aptitude install teewars  doesnt work?
[12:33] <Kheops> 10x i didn't know :)
[12:34] <Kheops> but i can latter mount the partition NTFS
[12:34] <Kheops> :)
[12:34] <algyz> LimCore:  think he should compile
[12:34] <Kheops> right ?
[12:34] <dcorbin_work> openoffice won't start for me.  It fails trying to fork "something".  When I manually try to start soffice, it fails quietly.  How to I check that all it's dependent libraries are there?
[12:34] <algyz> Kheops:  it should be able
[12:34] <Kheops> 10q
[12:34] <Kheops> very much
[12:34] <Kheops> ;)
[12:35] <Elvis> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "teeworlds"
[12:35] <algyz> Elvis:  you have to learn to compile
[12:35] <Zappacky> Kheops: Fiver is back in ##linux, just for your info
[12:35] <algyz> Elvis:  which system are you using, 32 or 64 bits?
[12:35] <Elvis> 32
[12:36] <Kheops> ky
[12:36] <algyz> Elvis:  download Linux x86 file, extract it somewhere and look for something "readme.txt"
[12:36] <Kheops> algyz: i can't format the HDD ...
[12:37] <Kheops> this is a virtual...he tells me
[12:37] <Elvis> ok
[12:38] <Kheops> and the qparted eats me a 1...GB
[12:38] <Kheops> or something like that
[12:38] <flipstar> dcorbin_work: maybe there is something broken..try reinstalling via "sudo apt-get install --reinstall openoffice.org" or just use adept_manager
[12:39] <Elvis> Ok now i can run it but its not looks good :S
[12:39] <Elvis> No colors ....
[12:39] <Kheops> paq
[12:39] <Kheops> your program eats me a 1 GB :(
[12:40] <algyz> Elvis:  run from terminal and look for errors
[12:40] <Kheops> algyz: hey
[12:40] <Kheops> i just deleted
[12:40] <Kheops> the partition
[12:40] <Kheops> :)
[12:40] <Kheops> and now ?
[12:40] <Kheops> he eats me 1 GB
[12:40] <algyz> bad soft :/
[12:41] <Kheops> 38.34 GB
[12:41] <Elvis> Hallo?
[12:41] <Kheops> what the ...
[12:41] <Kheops> mother of Satan
[12:41] <Kheops> what to do now ?
[12:41] <algyz> so you left free place? now you can create partition there
[12:41] <Kheops> yep
[12:41] <Kheops> i just did
[12:41] <Kheops> :)
[12:41] <Kheops> and it's apper happy
[12:41] <Kheops> :D)
[12:41] <Jucato> !enter | Kheops
[12:41] <ubotu> Kheops: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:42] <algyz> Kheops:  problem solved? nice :)
[12:42] <Elvis> Look @ that - http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8266/loooksgratesr1.png
[12:42] <Kheops> and now what i shoud do ?
[12:42] <Kheops> i must mount the partition
[12:42] <Kheops> ?
[12:42] <Kheops> or what ?
[12:42] <algyz> You shouldn't do anythig, just do, what you want
[12:43] <Elvis> Whats the problem algyz?
[12:43] <Kheops> algyz: i must mount the partition ?>
[12:43] <algyz> Elvis:  run command from terminal (type there "teeworlds") and look for errors
[12:43] <dcorbin_work> flipstar: that only reinstalled one package.  Is there a way to install everything down the dependency chain?
[12:45] <Kheops> algyz: i must mount the partition ??
[12:46] <algyz> Kheops:  if you want to use it, then answer is yes
[12:46] <pyro17> are you installing kubuntu there or tyring to use it as free space Kheops
[12:46] <Kheops> free space man
[12:46] <pyro17> yea mount it
[12:47] <Kheops> i installed kubuntu on it because i wanted to format
[12:47] <Kheops> ky
[12:47] <Kheops> tell me how to mount and why
[12:47] <Kheops> mount from to ?
[12:47] <sourcemaker> I have read that Kubuntu 8.04 Beta has been released... one of the new feature is to use an encrypted file system... Can I also encrypt only my home directory ? I think using a encrypted file system slows down the system.... right?
[12:48] <pyro17> yes
[12:48] <algyz> Kheops:  sudo mkdir /media/whatever ; sudo mount /dev/device_name /media/whatever
[12:48] <Kheops> yep
[12:48] <Kheops> he ask me
[12:48] <Kheops> for type
[12:50] <algyz> Kheops:  try kdesu mountconfig
[12:50] <Kheops> u are a kind of maniac of kdesu
[12:50] <Kheops> :)
[12:51] <algyz> use text mount otherwise
[12:51] <Kheops> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[12:51] <Kheops> hmm i try to mount
[12:52] <Kheops> but he ask for filesystem tyoe
[12:52] <Kheops> type
[12:52] <Kheops> what type ?
[12:52] <Jucato> sourcemaker: you might want to try asking in #ubuntu+1 too
[12:52] <Kheops> welcome back Jucato
[12:52] <Kheops> :)
[12:52] <sourcemaker> Jucato: ok... I willl do... thanks
[12:53] <algyz> Kheops:  think automatic will be ok
[12:54] <Elvis> So many errors
[12:54] <Elvis> Failed to open...
[12:54] <algyz> Elvis:  try to search in google by them
[12:54] <Kheops> what type ???
[12:55] <flipstar> dcorbin_work: 'openoffice.org' for the whole openoffice suite
[12:55] <flipstar> dcorbin_work: 'openoffice.org' is the metapackage for the whole openoffice suite
[12:56] <flipstar> dcorbin_work: maybe you could specify what the problem is..e.g running an openoffice in terminal
[12:56] <dcorbin_work> flipstar: I understand that, but the --reinstall did not "ripple down the dependencies"
[12:57] <dcorbin_work> flipstar: happy to do so again: Running oocalc or oowriter, I get ** (process:8807): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ...
[12:57] <dcorbin_work> When I tried to run /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice directly, it simple terminates quickly.
[12:58] <flipstar> dcorbin_work: try at root once
[12:59] <Kheops> algyz:
[12:59] <Kheops> WHEN I WANT TO MOUNT HE ASK ME FOR tyoe
[12:59] <Kheops> type
[13:00] <dcorbin_work> flipstar: it gives me connection to ":0.0" refused by server.  Can't remember how to get around that.
[13:01] <flipstar> dcorbin_work: with kdesu oowriter maybe
[13:01] <algyz> Kheops:  are you using mountconfig gui?
[13:01] <Kheops> yep
[13:02] <Kheops> no no
[13:02] <Kheops> command
[13:02] <Kheops> line
[13:02] <Kheops> it is more safe
[13:02] <Kheops> :)
[13:02] <dcorbin_work> flipstar: same effect
[13:02] <flipstar> hm okay
[13:02] <Jucato> Kheops: can you please stop using the Enter key as a puncuation mark.
[13:02] <Kheops> nop i'm using irc since he was invented
[13:02] <flipstar> Jucato: /ignore Kheops
[13:03] <Kheops> and i know very well to use
[13:03] <Kheops> also i'm the owener of the bighest channel of Undernet
[13:03] <Jucato> Kheops: I meant to type in complete sentences. not splitting your sentences in so many lines
[13:03] <Kheops> this is IRC not a religion Book
[13:03] <Kheops> type fast
[13:03] <Jucato> if you have used IRC that long, then you know enough to respect channel rules
[13:04] <Kheops> yes
[13:04] <Kheops> i understand
[13:04] <Kheops> i will try to obey :)
[13:04] <Jucato> thank you
[13:04] <flipstar> dcorbin_work: could you paste a "xdpyinfo |grep dimensions"
[13:05] <Kheops> mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or hdd40 busy
[13:05] <Kheops> what should i do
[13:05] <Kheops> algyz: are u here ?
[13:05] <algyz> no
[13:05] <dcorbin_work> flipstar:   dimensions:    3200x1200 pixels (700x261 millimeters)
[13:06] <Kheops> :)
[13:06] <dcorbin_work> (this all worked last week, until I upgraded a bunch of outdated packages)
[13:06] <Kheops> mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or hdd40 busy that's the message when i trying to mount
[13:06] <algyz> maybe it is mounted?
[13:07] <Kheops> hmm mabey not
[13:07] <Kheops> now can i see ?
[13:07] <algyz> cd /media/whatever, ls -l
[13:08] <Jucato> type "mount" too see everything that's mounted
[13:08] <abcd> Hi, does anybody know how to disable rolling down Edit, Settings etc after pressing alt+e, alt+s etc. ??? Sorry for my english...
[13:09] <Jucato> abcd: I think that's built-in to the programs
[13:09] <flipstar> dcorbin_work: my last idea..rename the openoffice dir in $HOME/.openoffice.org2 or so
[13:10] <dcorbin_work> OK.
[13:10] <dcorbin_work> flipstar: no joy.
[13:10] <flipstar> ¦ /
[13:10] <dcorbin_work> flipstar: which is why I asked how to reinstall the entire dependency chain
[13:10] <dcorbin_work> :)
[13:11] <Kheops> algy
[13:11] <Kheops> hmm he quit
[13:11] <Kheops> Jucato: can u help me ?
[13:12] <flipstar> dcorbin_work: in adept_manager you can search for openoffice then filter out the not installed packages and completly remove all
[13:12] <Kheops> the program that u told me to use don't create the partition !
[13:13] <Jucato> Kheops: sorry. not good with that stuff
[13:13] <Kheops> lol
[13:13] <dcorbin_work> flipstar: well, that won't help with dependent libraries, but it's a start.
[13:14] <flipstar> dcorbin_work: sorry just dont know how do to this
[13:17] <flipstar> dcorbin_work: if this still brings no sucess you might want to read this http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=57039
[13:18] <dcorbin_work> flipstar: thanks
[13:30] <paule118> LWw5-nCl
[13:31] <paule118> assssshat hat den Server verlassen (Remote closed the connection).
[13:31] <flipstar> looks like a vnc key
[13:32] <Kheops> flipstar: how can i see if i mount correctly the partition and i can use it ?
[13:32] <flipstar> why do you ask me ?
[13:32] <flipstar> picking randomly people ?
[13:33] <Kheops> nop
[13:33] <Kheops> i just ask,,
[13:33] <Kheops> this is an official channel of Helping users
[13:33] <Kheops> right ?
[13:33] <flipstar> most here are volunters
[13:34] <Pici> How are we going to know if you mounted the correct volume? Can you check?
[13:34] <pucko-> how do I start kde4 in a "new window" again?
[13:34] <flipstar> pucko-: use new session from kmenu..its not a new window but on tty9 then
[13:37] <kalorin> http://www.bizjournals.com/wichita/stories/2008/03/24/daily5.html
[13:38] <Jucato> kalorin: hm??
[13:38] <kalorin> wrong channel
[13:38] <Kheops> Jucato: my man
[13:39] <Kheops> i solve the problem
[13:39] <Kheops> look
[13:39] <Kheops> ./dev/hdb1              38G  129M   36G   1% /media/hdd40
[13:39] <Kheops> new partition is oky ?
[13:39] <kalorin> love the way that when you first fire up konversation, as it's joining channels it doesn't stay on the channel you're looking at but keeps throwing new ones on top of old ones so that you do stuff like that
[13:39] <paule118> You're banned from that channel
[13:39] <Pici> paule118: hm?
[13:39] <Jucato> Kheops: looks good
[13:39] <Kheops> i don't thinks so man
[13:39] <Kheops> because i had 40 GB :)
[13:40] <Kheops> now i have 38 ? wtf ?
[13:40] <Kheops> :)
[13:40] <mifauna> hola
[13:40] <Kheops> aloha
[13:40] <Jucato> Kheops: hm...
[13:40] <Kheops> your program eat my memory
[13:40] <Kheops> :)
[13:40] <Jucato> kalorin: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Interface -> Tabs -> uncheck Focus new tabs ?
[13:41] <Kheops> Jucato: what happened with 2 GB ? :)
[13:41] <kalorin> konversation, not konqueror
[13:42] <Jucato> kalorin: sorry. COnfigure Konversation
[13:42] <kalorin> ah ok
[13:42] <kalorin> yeah didn't notice the tab
[13:42] <kalorin> thanks
[13:42] <Jucato> Kheops: I'm not sure what happened. but I'm sure that 40GB isn't always as advertised. it's not exactly 40GB. and some parts are used for information
[13:43] <dwidmann> Kheops: a 40GB drive is 40GB, not 40GiB
[13:43] <Pici> Kheops: 40 gigabytes is appoxibmately 37.25 gibibytes, which is the standard 2^n measure used in computing.
[13:44] <Kheops> i know
[13:44] <Kheops> bit and byte
[13:44] <Kheops> the producers don't write on the HDD's what GB it is
[13:44] <Kheops> :)
[13:45] <Kheops> they just write 500 GB but gibi or giga,,
[13:45] <Kheops> ...
[13:45] <flipstar> no..harddrive manufactors work with 1000byte per KB but OS's usally user 1024byte for KB
[13:45] <Kheops> hope u understand me :)
[13:45] <Kheops> hmmm anyway tanks for helping me
[13:45] <Kheops> to solve my HDD
[13:45] <Kheops> :)
[13:46] <BysmuthMage> the real kilobyte: http://xkcd.com/394/
[13:46] <dwidmann> BysmuthMage: I saw that coming, and if nobody else did, I would have :)
[13:46] <Kheops> Jucato: u told me when i joined this channel and ask my problem that i can format the hdd without installing kubuntu
[13:46] <Kheops> this is right ?
[13:46] <flipstar> BysmuthMage: lol !!
[13:47] <Jucato> Kheops: I didn't tell you that
[13:47] <Kheops> hmm but i can format and create partitions without install kubuntu ?
[13:47] <dwidmann> Kheops: yes
[13:48] <Kheops> hmm
[13:48] <Kheops> oky 10x
[13:48] <dwidmann> hurray for live cds
[13:48] <dwidmann> (and dvds)
[13:49] <BysmuthMage> future: live Blu-Ray...
[13:50] <dwidmann> BysmuthMage: not anytime in the near future
[14:04] <Kardesler> s.a
[14:22] <roger_> ghs
[14:28] <nitin> hello
[14:28] <flipstar> hi nitin
[14:30] <nitin> how do i register so that i can chat?
[14:31] <flipstar> !register
[14:31] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[14:31] <flipstar> nitin: you already can chat
[14:32] <nitin> I also like ubuntu and kubuntu. I have installed both on my computer. I used ubuntu since 7.04
[14:33] <flipstar> i tried gnome 2.22 a few days ago .. but didnt liked it much..
[14:34] <neville_> Gnome is :/
[14:34] <nitinnir> At first i used ubuntu a lot and found kde hard, but now I prefer to use kde.
[14:35] <flipstar> im using kde since start..only used gnome once when i accendly downloaded the wrong livecd :/
[14:36] <pyro17> GNOME
[14:36] <nitinnir> here i have dial up connection, so i cannot download. therefore i have to wait for cd from canonicla,
[14:36] <flipstar> then you probably watch more that you order the right one :)
[14:37] <nitinnir> now i have decided to stick with version until 9.04
[14:38] <flipstar> 9.04 or 8.04 ?
[14:38] <nitinnir> at first i thought linux is very hard and it is only for the geeks, but i have managed to make my pc do all the basic functions that i need
[14:38] <Ukonpoika> #kubuntu-offtopic is the place for chatting if you don't really need support.
[14:38] <nitinnir> i mean until version 9.04
[14:39] <flipstar> Ukonpoika: heres not much traffic so i think this is no problem :)
[14:39] <Ukonpoika> flipstar, once a bad habit is born, it dies hard. ;)
[14:40] <Jucato> rules are rules. traffic or none. please follow them. thanks
[14:41] <flipstar> yessir
[14:41] <Jucato> :)
[14:45] <dwidmann> nitinnir: you could download an iso image over dialup. I've done it a couple of times. It's just not particularly enjoyable to do so ... and a download manager is a must.
[14:46] <nitinnir> how long does it take to download an iso over dialup?
[14:47] <dwidmann> Quite a while. If you can manage to keep the connection up as often as possible it'll take a week or two
[14:47] <dwidmann> IIRC
[14:48] <nitinnir> I prefer ordering cd from canonical even though i have to wait for sometime
[14:49] <nitinnir> what is kernel headers?
[14:50] <Jucato> you could also try contacting your Ubuntu LoCo (local community) and asking if they had CD's delivered to them last release. some LoCo's are given some amount of CD's to give away
[14:50] <dwidmann> nitinnir: header files used for compiling things
[14:51] <genii> If you had an optimal 56K connection 700Mb takes about 29 hours. But of course no one has an optimal connection.
[14:51] <dwidmann> genii: yeah, maybe you'd get that if you connected from within your ISPs office (literally)
[14:52] <dwidmann> Should take less than a week if the connection is decent .... mine wasn't
[14:52] <david_> hello
[14:52] <Odd-rationale> torrent might be a good idea as you can stop and resume
[14:52] <genii> Yup
[14:52] <SlimeyPete> nitinnir: kernel headers are source code files which are required if you want to install a new module (driver)
[14:54] <BlkHtBrigade> I'm having an issue on my laptop where everytime I boot I have to reinstall the nvidia drivers before I can get into KDE.  if I "kdm stop" and then type "startx" it says that there is something wrong with the nvidia kernel.  After reinstalling the nvidia driver (from nvidia's download) it all works great until a reboot.  Any ideas?
[14:54] <dwidmann> genii: Ii eventually broke down and coughed up the dough for a satellite connection. Now I've got all the new disappoints it has to offer.
[14:54] <BlkHtBrigade> Kubuntu 7.10, alienware 9700 (sorry, forgot the important stuff)
[14:55] <dwidmann> BlkHtBrigade: I've had that problem before .... didn't know what I was doing so I reinstalled using envy and it seemed to work okay.
[14:56] <BlkHtBrigade> it's aggrivating =/  Almost the same thing is happening with the wireless drivers.
[14:58] <ccvp> Ubuntu 8.04, is beta worth trying, or just stick with 7.10 until official release?
[14:58] <ccvp> ?
[14:58] <eddieftw> ccvp: i would say stick with 7.10
[14:59] <Odd-rationale> ccvp: your choice. I am sticking to gutsy though
[14:59] <Jucato> official release is barely a month away anyway
[14:59] <neville_> Is it possible to use a burnt iso of a new release to upgrade?
[14:59] <ccvp> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/hardy/beta
[14:59] <Odd-rationale> At least he finallly have a name we can spell. Instead of "fiesty" and "gusty"
[14:59] <Odd-rationale> *we
[15:00] <ccvp> this dude on efnet asked this
[15:00] <ccvp> [09:56am] [simon__] how do I tell my fedora core system to use vendor perl instead of site perl?
[15:00] <ccvp> how he fix that?
[15:00] <Jucato> tell him to ask in #fedora
[15:00] <Jucato> Odd-rationale: next version's name is Intrepid Ibex
[15:00] <ccvp> Jucato
[15:01] <ccvp> starbucks is releasing a new brand of cofee, thats as demented named
[15:01] <ccvp> as ubuntu releases
[15:01] <ccvp> "Venti Anal Cumlatta" $3.99
[15:01] <Odd-rationale> Jucato: that is not too hard to spell. But it is a mouthful
[15:01] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[15:01] <Jucato> O.o
[15:01] <Odd-rationale> I was hoping for ingenious iguana
[15:01] <neville_> Oh come on, Ibex' look hilarious!!
[15:02] <ccvp> Anal Cumlatta is good too
[15:02] <BluesKaj> has to use the letter "i"
[15:02] <flipstar> Jucato: where can i find i a list of LoCu's ?
[15:03] <BluesKaj> pretty lame names so far , hardy heron ,gawd gimme a break :)
[15:03] <neville_> What's the set name for J?
[15:03] <Jucato> flipstar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[15:03] <flipstar> thanks
[15:03] <neville_> Jaundiced Jaguar?
[15:03] <Jucato> neville_: they only decide before a new release
[15:03] <Jucato> shortly before
[15:04] <neville_> Hmm, so still time :P
[15:04] <Odd-rationale> It should have been Hungry Hippo
[15:04] <prince_jammys> usually about 5 minutes before release, judging by the names
[15:04] <LimCore> heh the release names are funny
[15:05] <Jucato> prince_jammys: no
[15:05]  * LimCore prefers "7.10"
[15:05] <Jucato> LimCore: they're meant to be non-serious
[15:05] <LimCore> is it just me or is 7.10 easier
[15:05] <LimCore> to remember
[15:05] <ccvp> limcore
[15:05] <prince_jammys> they're definitely goofy
[15:05] <Jucato> well that's the formal/real name of the release. the animal names are just "codenames"
[15:05] <neville_> When I ordered my first copy of Kubuntu, 7.04, my Mum found the package, and with the name Feisty Fawn, she thought it was something.. unsavory.
[15:06] <SSJ_GZ> neville_: lol
[15:06] <neville_> So they're not all good
[15:06] <LimCore> neville_: heh
[15:06] <ccvp> Ever since Feodra screwed itself up permanently with FC2, the community evolutionized, and basically Ubuntu became the new "masses" standard....it's the most, microsoft'ized, and "window'ized" and automated'ized linux distro these days...........sad, but the only way to get the masses to use linux, is to make it easy, and automated,, meaning you wont see the day when the masses use console only
[15:06] <ccvp> Ubuntu has degraded itself because of this :)
[15:06] <hungrymouse> Can I clarify: 7.10 is Gutsy, right? I've not booted to Kubuntu for a while so I've forgotten what version I'm on :S
[15:07] <Jucato> hungrymouse: yes
[15:07] <hungrymouse> thanks.
[15:07]  * genii tries to explain the Warty Warthog cd to Mother
[15:07] <prince_jammys> hungrymouse: correct
[15:07] <LimCore> ccvp: this doesnt have to be sad
[15:07] <ccvp> heh
[15:07] <LimCore> ccvp: some people like to "just use the tool"
[15:07] <Jucato> ok, time to raise the offtopic warning
[15:07] <ccvp> i remember when FC2
[15:07] <LimCore> and ms is a bad, bad tool
[15:07] <ccvp> was where it was "at"
[15:07] <ccvp> now its all about ubuntu etc, and kde ubuntu
[15:08] <ccvp> how big is the kubuntu iso
[15:08] <ccvp> regular ubuntu = 695 megs i think
[15:09] <hungrymouse> It won't be bigger than a single standard CD-R
[15:09] <neville_> Hmm, can you buy pieces of the repositories on disks?
[15:10] <neville_> AptonCD is greatm provided you have a decent internet connection in the first place :P
[15:11] <genii> neville_: The alternate cd can be used as a mini-repository, it has a lot of packages on it since no gui
[15:12] <neville_> It does provide a GUI anyway though, doesn't it? Otherwise, that wouldn't make much sense
[15:12] <neville_> And, more along the lines of a DVD disk or 20 :P
[15:12] <SlimeyPete> it doesn't provide a GUI installer
[15:12] <SlimeyPete> but once you've installed you get a GUI
[15:12] <neville_> Ah
[15:13] <genii> neville_: The room they saved by not making it a livecd was used to pack more stuff on the media
[15:15] <neville_> Is there an idea of how much space would be saved?
[15:18] <ja> cze
[15:18] <ja> siemak
[15:18] <ja> siemka
[15:24] <Annirak> The machine which I was running my mysqld had its chipset die.  Now I'm getting the message that mysql can't bind to port 3306.  What can I do to fix it?
[15:25] <ccvp> I wish thugs in the ghetto would quit wasting $5,000 on 29" rims, for their 1984 regal, or caprice, that is worth $300, and rusted/falling apart. . . . don't they know the concept of depreciation? instead of investing.............those rims lose 80% value in 3 months HEH
[15:25] <Jucato> !offtopic
[15:25] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[15:26] <angel> hi, can anyone help me get my realtek 8187b wireless card working? i have downloaded the windows drivers, used the 98 version in ndiswrapper, but it won't recognize the device, saying i isn't there
[15:27] <fulat2k> hi folks, i'm currently using v100.14.19 of nvidia drivers in k7.10.  i was wondering if it's possible to upgrade to a newer version  by d/lding it from nvidia.com
[15:27] <Jucato> !nvidia
[15:27] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:27] <Jucato> fulat2k: there are instructions there for doing that way ^^^
[15:27] <flipstar> fulat2k: yes sure
[15:27] <Vedavox> fulat2k: yes, the easiest way is to download and install envy
[15:27] <Jucato> !envy
[15:27] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[15:27] <neville_> No, don't say Envy!!
[15:27] <flipstar> envy would be an bad choise
[15:27] <neville_> -_-v
[15:28] <fulat2k> uhh..
[15:28] <fulat2k> ok
[15:28] <neville_> Why is Envy a bad choice?
[15:28] <flipstar> it changes much in the whole system
[15:28] <BluesKaj> Envy can break your setup , if you're not careful
[15:29] <Jucato> (so does manually installing the driver from nvidia.com... though that's probably a bit easier to fix... maybe...)
[15:29] <neville_> -_-v
[15:29] <ubuntu> hello. I have a problem. I installed the nvidia drivers for my pc. but it says that my monitor doesn't support that resolution/refresh rate. and I can't log in graphically. how do I fix this?
[15:30] <angel> guess no one can help...
[15:30] <hungrymouse> ubuntu: what's your graphics card:
[15:30] <fulat2k> hmm... wiki page doesn't say antying bout upgrading
[15:30] <ubuntu> 8600GT.
[15:31] <hungrymouse> and did it work before you installed a driver?
[15:31] <ubuntu> perhaps if I could edit a configuration file. but I don't know which one. I am using livecd now but I don't know how to mount when in liveCD
[15:32] <Jucato> fulat2k: you will basically have to install the new driver. that's what "upgrading" a driver is about
[15:32] <ubuntu> hungrymouse:  it worked before
[15:32] <Vedavox> ubuntu: /etc/xorg.conf is the file
[15:32] <flipstar> fulat2k: you can use the instructions on nvidia.com
[15:33] <hungrymouse> ubuntu: um... why did you install the new driver then ><
[15:33] <ubuntu> coz nvidia drivers are better
[15:33] <fulat2k> Jucato: i think i'll wait a while.  i'm not doing any gaming and my display works perfectly :P
[15:35] <flipstar> this is probably the wisest choise
[15:35] <ubuntu> how do I mount my hardrive from LiveCD?
[15:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh how i hate ati's x200
[15:36] <flipstar> ubuntu you should be able to use the gui in systemsetting>advanced>hard drives
[15:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> i wanted to show off compiz-fusion to my in-laws (who are already running ubuntu), but i couldn't get it working with the stupid x200 chipset :(
[15:36] <Vedavox> Daisuke_Laptop: why? I have it running here fine
[15:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> xgl?
[15:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> or aiglx using the newest driver?
[15:37] <Vedavox> Daisuke_Laptop: used that, but now I just use an more up to date ati driver than what is in the gutsy repoes
[15:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> yeah, i installed the newest driver from their site
[15:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> still nada
[15:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> but no matter
[15:38] <Vedavox> what does it spit out when you type 'compiz --replace'
[15:38] <hungrymouse> your hard drive, probably.
[15:40] <ubuntu> where do I go to tell it to only use the normal drivers, ie not nvidia ones
[15:41] <Vedavox> ubuntu: the way I do it is just amnually edit /etc/Xorg.conf to use vesa instead of nvidia
[15:53] <thiemster> which is better: kubuntu 8.04 kde4 beta or kubuntu 8.04 kde3 beta
[15:54] <flipstar> there is no 'better'
[15:54] <thiemster> which has better graphics
[15:54] <jussio1> !best | thiemster
[15:54] <ubotu> thiemster: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[15:54] <thiemster> jussio1: that didn't really answer my question
[15:54] <flipstar> kde4 appears nicer i guess
[15:55] <thiemster> does it use less memory
[15:55] <thiemster> cause i have a 8-year-old computer with 512MB
[15:55] <jussio1> thiemster: the thing is, your question is *very* subjective
[15:55] <thiemster> and i also want to install kubuntu 8.04 (when the final version comes out) on a laptop with 256MB of memory
[15:55] <jussio1> thiemster: they both use around the same. IMHO
[15:56] <rafi> quelqu'un parle francais
[15:56] <thiemster> rafi: if you asked me if i speak french, the answer is no
[15:56] <thiemster> jussio1: thanks
[15:57] <jussio1> !fr | rafi
[15:57] <ubotu> rafi: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:58] <rafi> #ubuntu-fr
[15:58] <Pici> rafi: /j #ubuntu-fr
[15:59] <LimCore> rafi:   /j #ubuntu-fr
[15:59] <LimCore> or click
[16:00] <rafi> #kubuntu-fr
[16:02] <jussio1> !nickspam > grul
[16:03] <thiemster> !nickspam
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[16:03] <grul> "ok"
[16:07] <thiemster> !spam
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[16:09] <nick_> i need help plz
[16:09] <thiemster> nick: on what
[16:10] <thiemster> nick: what do u need help with?
[16:10] <nick_> lol
[16:10] <thiemster> nick: what?
[16:10] <nick_> ok i have a printer whit memory sd slot
[16:11] <thiemster> nick: so what's ur problem?
[16:11] <nick_> and linux when i enter a momory stick he not doin g anything
[16:11] <thiemster> sorry, can't help u there
[16:11] <nick_> :(
[16:11] <thiemster> i don't know too much about printers in linux
[16:11] <nick_> ok
[16:11] <thiemster> cause mine won't even work properly
[16:12] <thiemster> have you installed CUPS
[16:12] <nick_> ok mine work fine but my momy not work :(
[16:12] <thiemster> huh?
[16:12] <thiemster> what r u talking about?
[16:13] <kalorin> is there some way to just turn off, remove, destroy all these apps need to use the kwallet?
[16:13] <kalorin> I've apt-get removed it, yet they still keep asking for it
[16:13]  * rhombicosidodeca is tired
[16:14] <mot> !compiz-fusion
[16:14] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[16:14] <Jucato> kalorin: Alt+F2, "kcontrol", go to Security and Privacy -> KDE Wallet -> uncheck Enable the KDE wallet subsystem
[16:16] <kalorin> jucato, sweet thanks
[16:31] <sceptre_> im not doing anything and im getting a constant write to my sda1 of around 3..4mb/sec and i cant figure out why
[16:32] <flipstar> sceptre_: http://guichaz.free.fr/misc/#iotop
[16:32] <sceptre_> never mind it was mythTV backend lol
[16:32] <sceptre_> sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop
[16:33] <sceptre_> now theres no disk activity
[16:33] <sceptre_> =)
[16:36] <sceptre_> flipstar: i dont think i could use that script anyone...no I/O accounting support
[16:37] <flipstar> but you seems to be able to use sudo..so you can change any
[16:51] <nick_> hey
[16:51] <nick_> how i format a d: drive ?
[16:51] <nick_> or e :
[16:51] <nick_> memory stick
[16:52] <flipstar> with mkfs or a gui like qtparted
[16:52] <nick_> umm
[16:52] <nick_> where i find that ?
[16:54] <flipstar> you find qtparted in the repos, you can install via adept_manager , mkfs is part of the system
[16:55] <nick_> okok
[16:57] <drims> Hello everybody, i'm stuck with something here in kubuntu ( surely newbie's probs )
[16:57] <drims> someone could help me?
[16:57] <flipstar> sure..but you need to tell us what problem you have ..makes sence or ?
[16:59] <drims> Well i've got kubuntu and winxp on the same computer, and i wanted to shared files on ntfs partition with my network while i'm under kubuntu..
[16:59] <drims> i experienced some problems so i decided to copy the files i wanted to share on my kubuntu partition
[17:00] <drims> the problem is when i copy a file ( a movie is the case ) i can't read it in kubuntu..
[17:01] <drims> it loads perfectly when it's on my ntfs partition but once the copy done, the file seems corrupt
[17:01] <flipstar> which ntfs driver you are using ? maybe you should try ntfs-3g
[17:02] <drims> which is strange because i have no problem with .srt files or others
[17:02] <drims> i don't know i just installed kubuntu 7.10
[17:02] <drims> are they not included?
[17:02] <flipstar> drims: you sure there is a problem with this file .. or you just cant play it ?
[17:02] <genii> What is the file extension of this movie?
[17:03] <flipstar> maybe you just dont have the right codecs for the file installed
[17:03] <drims> not at all
[17:03] <drims> because i can read it if the fim is on my ntfs partition ( i'm still under kubuntu )
[17:03] <flipstar> oh..okay
[17:04] <drims> it's only once copied that it doesn't load
[17:04] <drims> (i mean copied on my ext3 partition the one kubuntu is on )
[17:04] <genii> drims: Is the size the same after copying?
[17:04] <flipstar> you probably can play other films on the same drive..?
[17:05] <drims> Unable to open '/home/drims/Nouveau dossier/bclc.avi'
[17:05] <flipstar> oh this might be an permissions thing
[17:05] <drims> i can play all the films which are on the original partition ( ntfs ) but not once copied..
[17:06] <flipstar> which player are you using ?
[17:06] <drims> vlc
[17:06] <flipstar> then just try "kdesu vlc <videofile> once..
[17:07] <flipstar> "kdesu vlc /home/drims/Nouveau dossier/bclc.avi" in this case
[17:07] <flipstar> to see if its an permission problem
[17:07] <drims> libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
[17:08] <drims> [00000290] main input error: no suitable access module for `/home/drims/Nouveau'
[17:08] <drims> [00000281] main playlist: nothing to play
[17:08] <drims> .. weird..
[17:08] <flipstar> try kdesu vlc "/home/drims/Nouveau dossier/bclc.avi"
[17:08] <flipstar> with quotes
[17:09] <flipstar> there is an emtpy space in the filename ..
[17:09] <genii> Put the file in a directory without spaces in the name
[17:09] <flipstar> works also with quotes
[17:09] <drims> i tried with quotes, same problem
[17:09] <drims> i'll change quickly the folder's name
[17:10] <drims> same problem..
[17:10] <ubuntu> wey
[17:10] <drims> [00000304] main input error: no suitable access module for `dossier/bclc.avi'
[17:10] <drims> trying to create local folder /root/.kde/share: Permission denie
[17:10] <genii> the "encrypted dvd support unavailable"    makes me think  it could be libdvdcss2 which is needed
[17:11] <drims> but it's weird because like i said before, if i wanna play at their original location it works without any problem
[17:12] <genii> drims: What does ls -l /home/drims/dossier/bclc.avi             report?
[17:13] <nick_> why on my memory stick said is a virtual partition
[17:13] <genii> the -l is lowercase L there
[17:13] <Vermux> how do I start Samba?
[17:14] <drims> i think i found the problem, when i copied the files the autorisation changes to root for playing the file
[17:14] <drims> i just changes the attributes and it seems to work now
[17:14] <genii> Vermux: If it's installed, then: sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[17:16] <ubuntu> s.a
[17:16] <drims> big thank you for all for that problem ;)
[17:16] <drims> now i have a new one ;)
[17:16] <drims> why am i not allowed to share files (while i'm under kubuntu) from my ntfs partition on my networks?
[17:17] <drims> it says : only the folders associated with your user can be shared
[17:18] <flipstar> then the partition is probably not assignet to your user
[17:19] <nick_> flipstar:  how i start fkfs
[17:19] <nick_> mkfs
[17:19] <drims> how can i change that?
[17:20] <drims> yes indeed i just saw that in the properties.. thanks
[17:20] <flipstar> nick_: in a terminal type sudo mkfs.<filesystem> device
[17:20] <flipstar> drims: okay..btw how did you copied the files ?
[17:21] <drims> .. it's the 6th times that i try to switch to linux but each time i came back for little issues like that.. i hope it's the good one ;)
[17:21] <drims> in fact i think that i openned dolphin with the root attributes under my common user
[17:22] <drims> once copied i was unable to open them but now it's fixed
[17:22] <flipstar> okay..thats good :)
[17:23] <drims> other questions... can i create a root user ?
[17:24] <flipstar> no..you shouldnt
[17:24] <drims> because i think that 95% of my issues are linked with the permissions things
[17:24] <flipstar> just change the permissions once
[17:24] <drims> oh k.. i get by then
[17:26] <ubuntuME> türk varmı bu kanalda??
[17:28] <drims> i can't change the permissions of my ntfs partition..
[17:28] <Vermux> genii: if I changed the contents of the smb.conf file, do I need to restart the samba service or it updates automatically?
[17:28] <drims> i change those but when i click OK and go back to the properties, nothing changes..
[17:28] <LimCore> ubuntuME: #ubuntu.tr ?
[17:29] <flipstar> drims: the mounted partition ?
[17:30] <drims> flipstar: yes
[17:30] <Vermux> if I changed the contents of the smb.conf file, do I need to restart the samba service or it updates automatically?
[17:30] <genii> Vermux: You need to restart it. use "restart" instead of "start" in this case
[17:30] <Vermux> oops
[17:30] <Vermux> genii: I started it again. it means that 2 same services are running now?
[17:31] <flipstar> drims: how did you mounted it ?
[17:31] <flipstar> it should work with a browser with root rights..but you still can change the mount options
[17:32] <drims> flipstar: kubuntu did it itself when i installed it, /media/sda1
[17:33] <genii> Vermux: Yes
[17:33] <flipstar> drims: hm you also checked the options with subdirs ?
[17:33] <ubuntu> .
[17:34] <Vermux> genii: waht is the netbios name?
[17:34] <drims> flipstar: i didn't do it for the moment because i'm (i don't know why now) unable to change the permissions for others ( my network )
[17:35] <drims> flipstar: when i click OK it goes back like before : Denied
[17:36] <genii> Vermux: Netbios name is the name Wincdows computers see it as. If your linux box is called FredSmith   netbios is: FREDSMITH
[17:36] <drims> flipstar: and if i checked the option for subfolder a dialog box open with a progression bar but it stays stuck at 0%
[17:36] <sebastian> hi
[17:37] <genii> Vermux: You should kill extra samba instances running, eg:     sudo killall smbd
[17:37] <Vermux> genii: I did stop instead of start
[17:37] <sebastian> Can somebody tell me how do deinstall kde and install gnome?
[17:37] <sebastian> -d +t
[17:38] <Vermux> genii: where is the smb.conf the netbios appears? because I dont c this line
[17:38] <genii> Vermux: Because you started a second instance it may not have a lockfile/pidfile which the script can use to close it prroperly.
[17:39] <Vermux> genii: ok, I killed it and started it again
[17:40] <genii> Vermux: There is not usually some "netbios name" entry in the samba config file. It just has a workgroup entry. Then the name the Windows machines see for your computer is it's usual lunux name but all in uppercase
[17:40] <genii> lunux -> linux
[17:40] <sebastian> okay^^   bye bye
[17:41] <Vermux> genii: ok, I see it now on the windows machine
[17:41] <Vermux> genii: it is lower case
[17:43] <BluesKaj> genii ,I subbed the iso file in your command with mine ,but no joy. here's the output ,http://www.pastebin.ca/955475
[17:47] <Vermux> genii: I cant read the file from the shared directory even though I set permissions
[17:49] <genii> Vermux: How did you go about setting these permissions?
[17:49] <Vermux> genii: ok, now it works. I entered now chmod u+rwx,g+rx,o+rx /export
[17:50] <Vermux> genii: previously I entered chmod 744 /export
[17:50] <Vermux> genii: what are all this letters?
[17:53]  * genii sighs
[17:55] <Vermux> genii: I want the /export to be only read permiited
[17:56] <genii> Vermux: u=user g=group o=others   r=read w=write x=execute       so u+rwx means give user that owns directory read/write/execute priveleges
[18:13] <sourcemaker> I have installed the new kubuntu beta package.... it's there the restrikted driver manager menu for setting up nvidia?
[18:14] <flipstar> its called driver manager now
[18:14] <Vermux> genii: I set up read only=yes, but I can copy the file in the shared directory
[18:15] <sourcemaker> flipstar: how can I configure... is there an menu?
[18:16] <jhutchins_wk> Vermux: Do you mean you can copy a file to the shared directory, or copy it from the shared directory to somewhere else?
[18:17] <flipstar> sourcemaker: the is no menu it should detect the card if you run it kmenu>system>driver manager
[18:17] <sourcemaker> flipstar: thanks
[18:20] <flipstar> is there a tool to search inside ftp servers? beside google i mean
[18:23] <genii> Vermux: sudo chmod -R 754 /export                   When you have read only =yes in smb.conf it won't overwrite file permissions you set earlier manually on that directory. eg: when you did chmod u+rwx,g+rx,o+rx /export or chmod 744   or so
[18:25] <Vermux> genii: how do I c the current permissions for a file?
[18:25] <Vermux> genii: or directory
[18:26] <genii> Vermux: files:   ls -l filename                 directory: ls -ld directoryname
[18:26] <leleiniesia> buonasera
[18:31] <hellhound> I have installed Gutsy Gibbon on my third computer (other two are just fine) with a 2.33 Ghz Xeon processor and 1 GB of RAM.  My problem is that it is running incredibly slow, simple things like moving the mouse cursor even go slow by not responding for 5-10 seconds and then jumping around the screen only to return back to is slow state.  Open and application often takes 3-5 minutes.  Does anyone know what I might be able to check
[18:31] <hellhound> that would cause this?
[18:32] <LimCore> hellhound: bad video driver?
[18:32] <hellhound> I have altry tested the memory and ran top and nothing strange was seen
[18:32] <LimCore> hellhound:   run  top -d 3  to see who is using the most cpu
[18:32] <LimCore> and/or run gui application   ksysquard
[18:32] <LimCore> oh
[18:32] <LimCore> is it fast but unresponsive, or overall really slow?
[18:33] <LimCore> go to vt-1  (text mode) and try doing some oeprations, does it work well there
[18:33] <sourcemaker2> I am testing the new ubuntu beta version using an encrypted hard disk via LVM... I am not sure... but it seems that the file system encryption slows down the system really hard
[18:34] <Freeze> hello i have Kubuntu 7.10. why i doesnt find alsa-oss with apt-cache search . mein sources.list http://paste.debian.net/51753
[18:34] <Freeze> my
[18:35] <hellhound> Limcore on top -d 3 the top results are (xorg (35148 virt), k89_uiserver (31796 virt), konsole (33624 virt) and top (2368 virt)
[18:35] <LimCore> but how much cpu usage
[18:36] <flipstar> Freeze: alsa-oss is in universe..if you just added it you need to update first
[18:36] <hellhound> LimCore: The computer seems to actually be slow as typing in konsole even is delayed... however outside of Linux (such as grub and the boot process as this si not a dual boot system) go at normal speeds
[18:37] <vlt> Hello. What am I doing wrong when `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` only lets me setup kbd settings but not video card?
[18:37] <Naru> helloo/. Somebody speek Russian?
[18:37] <vlt> !ru | Naru
[18:37] <ubotu> Naru: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke