[20:48] <ZykoticK9> lifestream, are you sure that's a terminal?  it might just be "root-tail" program showing a log file of some sort... i'm not sure obviously
[20:48] <rohan> joshuah: hmm. shouldn't happen. try doing 'sudo apt-get install dkms' ..
[20:48] <ZykoticK9> joesin, pulse is more-or-less a mystery to me sorry
[20:48] <joshuah> rohan: dkms is already the newest version. dkms set to manually installed.
[20:48] <joesin> ZykoticK9: I should have jsut bought a mic
[20:48] <Micheal`> Myrtti, n/p
[20:48] <ubutom> quit question, why is using many graphical fx slowing down performance in games, can't it kinda switch off the desktop or the effects for that time?
[20:49] <lifestream> ZykoticK9, that's true,it could be! But I do know for sure that such a terminal on the wallpaper is available, I used to have  it a while back.  If you notice,there's a block prompt to type at the end of the text
[20:49] <ubutom> quick ofcourse;)
[20:49] <joesin> i dont get why skype works fine... sound recorder works fine... but all vid caps cant get along...
[20:49] <ZykoticK9> lifestream, good point -- sorry man i have no idea
[20:49] <lifestream> :D
[20:49] <OasisTopher> Hi, is medibuntu still the way to get those proprietary packages?
[20:50] <rohan> joshuah: strange.. then it should have taken care after kernel update.
[20:50] <joshuah> rohan: odd, oh well though ^^, I guess I just need to learn more about modprobe and dpkg :)
[20:50] <ZykoticK9> OasisTopher, if you're using Karmic installing ubuntu-restricted-extras will look after most codecs for you.  Also as a side note Skype was removed from medibuntu
[20:50] <perberos> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=192197 bug of 2003. :_(
[20:51] <rohan> joshuah: do echo -e 'blacklist b43\nblacklist b43_legacy\nblacklist bcm3xx\nblacklist ssb' | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-b43
[20:51] <OasisTopher> Zykotic, then how does one get Skype?
[20:51] <genii> !skype
[20:52] <ZykoticK9> OasisTopher, http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/linux/choose/
[20:52] <rohan> joshuah: well that should cover it.. next time it doesn't work, just try doing 'sudo modprobe wl' and see if it will :)
[20:52] <joshuah> rohan: blacklist b43 <newline> blacklist b43_legacy <newline> blacklist bcm3xx <newline> blacklist ssb
[20:52] <joshuah> rohan: ok, I saved that command
[20:52] <sqwertle> I've had this problem for a bit now, and I can't seem to get it fixed. I've followed the guides I've found on it to the best of my ability but have not come to a solution. Upon running most programs without root I get this error Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "ubuntulooks".
[20:53] <joesin> how do I find where the sound recorder is getting its input from?
[20:53] <joesin> not listed in prefs...
[20:54] <rohan> joshuah: yes the output is as expected.. it should work across reboots now.
[20:54] <york105> joesin, i guess Sound Recorder takes its input from default capture device set in alsa, to change this type alsamixer in terminal and change the capture device
[20:55] <joshuah> rohan: ok cool, so it's not blacklisted then?
[20:55] <Nilos> Can someone help me with my network connection(it no longer connects with PEAP)?
[20:55] <harisund> Nilos: What's happening? What did you do earlier adn what changed?
[20:55] <harisund> Nilos: Do you use Network Manager?
[20:56] <Nilos> yes i use network manager
[20:56] <york105> Nilos for our info can you do a paste of ifconfig
[20:56] <Nilos> we are required by our campu network to change our pass every 90 days
[20:56] <Nilos> ok one sec
[20:56] <harisund> Nilos: if you are pasting anything don't paste it here, paste it elsewhere and link it here
[20:56] <york105> Nilos, use the paste.ubuntu.com service
[20:56] <Trek> !paste | Nilos
[20:57] <harisund> by the way pastebinit doesn't work in Karmic .. that factoid needs to be changed
[20:57] <york105> aye, there's ubottu, missed you my dear bot
[20:57] <KB1JWQ> harisund: Oh?
[20:57] <eko> good evening
[20:57] <harisund> KB1JWQ: There's a bug in pastebinit which prevents it from working on karmic, and apparently it's only fixed in Lucid release .. painful but yeah
[20:58] <AlVaRiToOo> ola
[20:58] <AlVaRiToOo> ola
[20:58] <AlVaRiToOo> ola
[20:58] <FloodBot4> AlVaRiToOo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:58] <harisund> Nilos: Were you able to connect to the campus network earlier,before you changed your password?
[20:58] <AlVaRiToOo> why Bloodot4
[20:59] <trism> harisund: it works if you specify -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:59] <harisund> AlVaRiToOo: because you repeated ola thrice
[20:59] <eko> i have a trouve with Ubuntu 10.04 beta 1, when I try to install it on my Windows platform (with wubi.exe), I reboot, I select Ubuntu on the grub menu and then a cleared grub console appear ... the kernel doesn't load, any idea ?
[20:59] <Myrtti> AlVaRiToOo: you need to behave, or you'll be removed from the channel
[20:59] <rohan> joshuah: no i actually blacklisted it.. deliberately. the open source driver would conflict with the closed source one.
[20:59] <AlVaRiToOo> and?
[20:59] <Myrtti> !lucid | eko
[20:59] <harisund> trism: ah interesting thanks
[20:59] <eko> thanks Myrtti
[20:59] <perberos> AlVaRiToOo little young?
[20:59] <joshuah> rohan:  ohh, ok cool
[21:00] <AlVaRiToOo> perberos your mother has little young
[21:00] <Myrtti> AlVaRiToOo: did you have a ubuntu support related question?=
[21:00] <harisund> AlVaRiToOo: you are starting to get on the nerves of a lot of people now .. be prepared to be kicked if you don't stick to the CoC here
[21:00] <perberos> six days, wohoo
[21:01] <AlVaRiToOo> dou you like this reberos???????'dou you like the message
[21:01] <brandonc503> hey all.. so i did freshinstall of ubuntu and am trying to get lamp and gd library up. and i got gd library library to work but now it wont...
[21:01] <drakekin> Can anyone help me with compiling new wacom drivers?
[21:01] <brandonc503> how can i remove any changes i made to start from sreinstalling os?
[21:01] <gasull> Does anybody here use libtrash?  I can't get it working.
[21:01] <Myrtti> AlVaRiToOo: this is not a chat channel, we stick to Ubuntu support stuff here. If you don't have a question or an issue with Ubuntu Linux, then please find some other channel
[21:02] <angel_linuxfreak> I am trying to create a launcher for a python program but I can't figure it out. Here is the command I am using in the launcher. "/home/angel/.config/pystromo/pystromo-remap.py -m default.map" Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?
[21:02] <gnomo> hello
[21:02] <gasull> angel_linuxfreak: does your program need a terminal?
[21:02] <Hypnoz> brandonc503: you want to undo all changes you've made to your system since you installed?
[21:02] <sqwertle> I've had this problem for a bit now, and I can't seem to get it fixed. I've followed the guides I've found on it to the best of my ability but have not come to a solution. Upon running most programs without root I get this error Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "ubuntulooks".
[21:02] <harisund> angel_linuxfreak: if I am not much mistaken, you might want to call /usr/bin/python ahead of it since it's a .py script
[21:03] <angel_linuxfreak> gasull, I normally start it from terminal but I don't believe it requires one.
[21:03] <Ddorda> Losha: main reason is that I just don't need it :P
[21:03] <Ddorda> Losha: Im using AWN, it works great.
[21:03] <angel_linuxfreak> harisund, I will try that really quick. Thanks
[21:03] <gasull> angel_linuxfreak: I mean, is the output of the program in the terminal or do you get a new window?
[21:04] <Hypnoz> sqwertle: can you open a terminal window, and type "locate ubuntulooks"
[21:04] <angel_linuxfreak> gasull, it's a background program. When I run it from terminal I get output in the terminal window but no new window is created.
[21:05] <sqwertle> Hypnoz: Yes, I can. After doing that I go right back to $
[21:05] <angel_linuxfreak> harisund, I changed the command to this: "/usr/bin/python /home/angel/.config/pystromo/pystromo-remap.py -m default.map" but it still isn't working
[21:05] <Rolcol> Is there a way to connect to multiple wireless access points with one network card?
[21:05] <ZykoticK9> angel_linuxfreak, you'll probably need to run with "gnome-terminal -e  /home/angel/.config/pystromo/pystromo-remap.py -m default.map"
[21:05] <york105> Rolcol, simple answer is no
[21:05] <angel_linuxfreak> ZykoticK9, trying that right now, thank you
[21:05] <lifestream> This is offtopic but I don't know where to find the information. Does anyone know how Acer (specifically Acer) goes about refunding Windows? *please* send a PM instead of discussing it in the channel;p
[21:05] <guntbert> Rolcol: not at the same time
[21:05] <kitta1652> Hello.
[21:05] <Rolcol> york105: and the complicated answer?
[21:06] <gasull> angel_linuxfreak: then, in the launcher choose "type: application in terminal" in the drop down menu
[21:06] <york105> Rolcol , you can however give virtualisation a try :) that's the complicated answer
[21:06] <kitta1652> I am having an issue with Avahi under Ubuntu 9.10
[21:06] <Hypnoz> sqwertle: I'm thinking that's some file that is on root's path but not on your path
[21:06] <Hypnoz> sqwertle: but if it's not being located i'm not sure where it's calling from
[21:06] <kitta1652> I'm in a situation where a DHCP server is not availible.
[21:06] <Rolcol> Nooo!  My external wireless card would have been golden and useful right now.
[21:06] <kitta1652> I need AVhi to do APIPA Addressng on start up
[21:06] <sqwertle> Hypnoz: Even running it with su doesn't give me a path however.
[21:07] <ZykoticK9> Rolcol, actually i don't think it's possible to have multiple access point connected to one wireless card
[21:07] <angel_linuxfreak> ZykoticK9, that just opens my launcher details for editing in my mousepad text editor
[21:07] <angel_linuxfreak> gasull, trying that now.
[21:07] <kitta1652> but AVAHI it not starting autoip[d
[21:07] <kitta1652> so.
[21:07] <warpi> hi! is it possible to use ustream with ubuntu?
[21:07] <Flare183> !enter | kitta1652
[21:07] <gasull> angel_linuxfreak: and the command should be "/home/angel/.config/pystromo/pystromo-remap.py -m default.map"
[21:07] <Ddorda> anyone knows how I can completely remove gnome-panel?
[21:07] <Trek> ZykoticK9, Rolcol, you can't have multiple wireless access points connected on one card, but you can cycle from one to the next seamlessly
[21:07] <gasull> angel_linuxfreak: or maybe "python /home/angel/.config/pystromo/pystromo-remap.py -m default.map"
[21:08] <ZykoticK9> Trek, i agree
[21:08] <Trek> ZykoticK9, Rolcol, as in if you walk out of range of one and another is in range, it picks up the newlydetected one
[21:08] <unimatrix> how is it possible that my ubuntu USB key worked about 3 times then after that refused to boot at all?
[21:08] <Trek> happens on my system on-campus at the University i'm at all the time
[21:08] <kitta1652> So how do I fix Avahi?
[21:08] <Rolcol> Trek: that I knew.
[21:08] <york105> Ddora, why would you want to remove the panel? are you wanting to get rid of gnome-desktop?
[21:08] <Hypnoz> sqwertle: try sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks
[21:08] <angel_linuxfreak> gasull, ok trying them now. Getting an error with the first, but the error pertains to a problem with pystromo I need to fix. Not with the launcher. Will let you know as soon as I figure this part out
[21:09] <sqwertle> !PASTE
[21:09] <Tapout> on ubuntu live cd, how do you remount a drive read-write? i cannot remove any files
[21:09] <Trek> ZykoticK9, Rolcol, even with virtualization, there would be colissions of data within the system, so the technical answer is "No you can't connect multiple access points to one card"
[21:09] <Trek> ZykoticK9, Rolcol, not without having more than one card
[21:10] <sqwertle> Hypnoz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/400787/
[21:10] <york105> Rolcol, agree with Trek, its a bit messy
[21:10] <Rolcol> Alright.  Thanks everyone.
[21:10] <Zenker_> im using ubuntu 9.10, i ws wondering how can i get xchat to be back to its default state (the options n such to be as if i just installed it) i tried uninstalling/reinstalling and it reinstalls with the same preferences as before
[21:10] <Hypnoz> sqwertle: do you have any package managers open on the desktop? synaptics or add/remove programs windows?
[21:10] <sqwertle> Hypnoz: Yes, synaptic
[21:10] <Hypnoz> close that down
[21:11] <Rolcol> Zenker_: Delete the ~/.xchat2 folder.  It hides its preferences there.
[21:11] <angel_linuxfreak> gasull, This "/home/angel/.config/pystromo/pystromo-remap.py -m /home/angel/.config/pystromo/default.map" Did the trick, with the run in terminal turned out. Thanks for your help. Question though, I would like to turn this into a startup program. There is not an option when creating a startup program to run it in terminal. Might you have any suggestions as to what command I should use to get it to work from startup?
[21:11] <Hypnoz> sqwertle: then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks
[21:11] <Zenker_> ahhh ok thank you Rolcol
[21:12] <ZykoticK9> angel_linuxfreak, using "gnome-terminal -e" SHOULD be the same as selecting "run in terminal"
[21:12] <gasull> angel_linuxfreak: go to System-> Preferences-> Startup applications
[21:12] <angel_linuxfreak> ZykoticK9, I will try that.
[21:12] <sqwertle> Hypnoz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/400788/
[21:12] <bullgard> [GNOME] When resuming from suspend a white dialog in the middle of a black screen appears, showing my full name, my username, my hostname., asking to enter my password. At the bottom there are 4 buttons. What is the name of this dialog window?
[21:12] <angel_linuxfreak> gasull, I am already there, just trying to work out the kinks of the command for the startup addition.
[21:13] <gasull> ZykoticK9: it should, but it isn't.  I've had problems with this in the past
[21:13] <Hypnoz> Tapout: mount -n -o remount,rw /media/drivename
[21:13] <angel_linuxfreak> ZykoticK9, what is the -e argument for?
[21:14] <ZykoticK9> angel_linuxfreak, run a command
[21:14] <Hypnoz> Tapout: df to see mounted drives and their path
[21:14] <hello_kitty> http://www.e-castig.com/index.php?r=HzkN i just need couple more clicks , please help me, this is the last time i'm sending this :))))))))))
[21:14] <angel_linuxfreak> ZykoticK9, ah ok. One other thing, I am running Xubuntu, how do I check to see if Xubuntu is using a different terminal program than gnome-terminal>
[21:15] <angel_linuxfreak> ZykoticK9, ah figured it out, I am using Xfce Terminal Emulator
[21:15] <gasull> angel_linuxfreak: try with "gnome-terminal -x /home/angel/.config/pystromo/pystromo-remap.py -m default.map"
[21:15] <Tapout> Hypnoz, i see what is going on...  i'm logged in with the file browser as a regular user... anyway to sudo/be root while using the file browser?
[21:15] <angel_linuxfreak> ZykoticK9, so I guess I need to look up the command to launch that instead of gnome-terminal
[21:15] <angel_linuxfreak> gasull, what is the -x for>
[21:15] <ZykoticK9> angel_linuxfreak, certainly xterm should be available and it also uses -e
[21:16] <angel_linuxfreak> ZykoticK9, ah ok, thanks very much
[21:16] <gasull> angel_linuxfreak: means to execute the remainder of the command within the gnome-terminal
[21:16] <gasull> angel_linuxfreak: but b/c you're using gnome-terminal, I'm not sure how it will work
[21:16] <Hypnoz> Tapout: maybe sudo nautilus?
[21:16] <kitta1652> Anyone else?
[21:17] <kitta1652> Really, all I need is for Avahi-autoipd to start on startup.
[21:17] <angel_linuxfreak> gasull, ZykoticK9, ok I am going to go mess with all this information you gave me. thanks a lot for your help guys! :)
[21:17] <gasull> angel_linuxfreak: maybe you want to install roxterm.  I love it.  Like gnome-terminal but lighter
[21:17] <guntbert> !gksudo | Hypnoz
[21:17] <angel_linuxfreak> gasull, I will check into it
[21:17] <ZykoticK9> Tapout, Hypnoz i guess if you're running from livecd it doesn't actually matter - but generally use "gksu $program" for graphical programs needing sudo
[21:18] <Hypnoz> Tapout: there, what he said
[21:18] <randomusr> hello
[21:19] <squidly> I'm in 9.10 and I'm trying to add a repo. I dont see the add-apt-repos what package is taht part of?
[21:19] <randomusr> I have tightvncserver running on my 9.10 box and connect to it from Vista, but when I click on things, nothing happens
[21:19] <trism> bullgard: it is part of gnome screensaver (I'm pretty sure anyway)
[21:19] <randomusr> But on the tightvnchost, things appears to happen
[21:19] <Hypnoz> squidly: System > Administration > Software Sources
[21:20] <tech_help> is there a way to monitor how much traffic is over an ssh connection?
[21:21] <Wormik> Are you listen about demo-version of game for Linux that uses OpenGL 3.2 and demonstrate all of this functions?
[21:21] <Hypnoz> randomusr: Ya vnc in ubuntu sucks. I remember having that issue a while ago, might have to google for it and read some forums if no one here knows
[21:23]  * bubuub saluda
[21:23] <lappie> how do u use rm to remove a directory?
[21:23] <bullgard> trism: Hm.
[21:23] <trism> randomusr: if you have compiz enabled on the ubuntu machine you're connecting to, it can cause screen update problems
[21:23] <unimatrix> lappie: rm -r
[21:23] <lappie> ahh ty, i ended up rm-ing all the files rofl
[21:24] <lappie> so i guess it would be like   rm -r .xchat2
[21:24] <Wormik> This is Unigine Heaven. unigine.com.
[21:24] <Nilos> bakc.
[21:25] <Nilos> ok here it is:Link encap:ethernet HWaddr:00:13:66:0c:b0
[21:25] <Nilos> inet6 address:fe80:213:d3ff:fe66:cb0/64 scope:link
[21:25] <Nilos> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST
[21:25] <Nilos> MTU:1500 Metric:1
[21:25] <Nilos> RX Packets: 13964
[21:25] <Nilos> TX Packets: 4167
[21:25] <Nilos> Collisions:638
[21:25] <FloodBot4> Nilos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:25] <angel_linuxfreak> gasull, This "xterm -e(or -x) /home/angel/.config/pystromo/pystromo-remap.py -m /home/angel/.config/pystromo/default.map" worked great. It started up the program like it was supposed to. Now I am just trying to clean up. On the boot it starts the program in an xterm that is visible and won't close. I would like it to run the command in a terminal that doesn't show up. I want it to run in the background basically. Do you have any suggestions?
[21:25] <Hypnoz> lappie: or rmdir if the dir is empty
[21:26] <zenlunatic> when i try to perform an operation on /mnt, such as cd /mnt then ls, it freezes the prompt and i have to kill the terminal (cntrl-c doesnt work)
[21:26] <guntbert> Wormik: don't advertise please
[21:26] <lappie> ahh cool ty hypnoz
[21:26] <Nilos> ok here is my ifconfig:http://paste.ubuntu.com/400796/
[21:26] <Wormik> guntbert, okay. But what's bad in first OpeNGL 3.2 game for Linux?
[21:27] <Hypnoz> zenlunatic: it sounds like a device was disconnected without being unmounted
[21:27] <guntbert> Wormik: its off topic here - don't advertise .
[21:27] <KB1JWQ> zenlunatic: Hung mount.
[21:27] <zenlunatic> oh... is there a solution
[21:28] <Hypnoz> can you sudo umount /dev/devicename
[21:28] <harisund> Nilos: Did it work earlier, or have you never got it to connect to your network?
[21:28] <trism> bullgard: if you were looking to activate it from the command line, you can use: gnome-screensaver-command -l;
[21:29] <zenlunatic> Hypnoz: i believe its an nfs share
[21:29] <Wormik> guntbert, this is not offtopic on russian version of channel. Is this talkings will be in other english language channel?
[21:29] <Hypnoz> zenlunatic: ya that would make sense
[21:29] <guntbert> Wormik: please read /topic
[21:29] <zenlunatic> Hypnoz: its saying device is busy
[21:30] <Nilos> harisund:I cannot get it to connect in anything but TLS
[21:30] <Hypnoz> zenlunatic: are you able to start the nfs mount again easily so you can unmount?
[21:30] <angel_linuxfreak> ZykoticK9, This "xterm -e(or -x) /home/angel/.config/pystromo/pystromo-remap.py -m /home/angel/.config/pystromo/default.map" worked great. It started up the program like it was supposed to. Now I am just trying to clean up. On the boot it starts the program in an xterm that is visible and won't close. I would like it to run the command in a terminal that doesn't show up. I want it to run in the background basically. Do you have any suggestions?
[21:30] <wunjo> ubuntu keeps on crashing on me and I can  figure out why? is there any other way at looking at error logs I don't understand, any other program possible
[21:30] <Hypnoz> zenlunatic: I'm not sure otherwise, sometimes you have to restart. Hung NFS can cause big issues
[21:30] <wunjo> could someone please advise me
[21:30] <zenlunatic> Hypnoz: yeah i was just playinhg with nfs on a test box
[21:31] <Wormik> guntbert, there is so many channels... gb
[21:31] <ZykoticK9> angel_linuxfreak, sorry no idea how you'd go about doing that sorry
[21:31] <KB1JWQ> wunjo: dmesg, cat /var/log/messages are good places to start.
[21:31] <Trek> wunjo: what are you doing prior to the crash
[21:31] <Hypnoz> zenlunatic: try re-enabling the nfs on the test box if you can, then umount on your system
[21:31] <angel_linuxfreak> ZykoticK9, np I am looking through the xterm man right now. Thanks
[21:31] <wunjo> I have all kinds of software running including vmware
[21:31] <wunjo> Trek
[21:32]  * york105 yawns and lazily heads to bed
[21:32] <Trek> that might be the cause: mem overload possibly
[21:32] <Hypnoz> wunjo: tail /var/log/messages or tail /var/log/syslog
[21:32] <wunjo> I dont understand all the time what I am looking for in error logs and what to do with them once I see them
[21:32] <wunjo> very frustrating
[21:33] <Hypnoz> wunjo: you're looking for an error line around when the crash was that may have caused it
[21:33] <angel_linuxfreak> Anyone know what command to run an xterm terminal in the background or hidden? I made a start up program that requires it to be ran in xterm but I don't want the window to show up on startup.
[21:33] <Hypnoz> angel_linuxfreak: don't you put like a & at the end?
[21:33] <wunjo> which error log should I look at first?
[21:33] <r2q2> How do I check out the ubuntu-docs
[21:33] <Hypnoz> angel_linuxfreak: "command &"
[21:34] <wunjo> which error log
[21:34] <zenlunatic> Hypnoz: i think thats for bash jobs only
[21:34] <wunjo> Hynoz
[21:34] <socket_77> Yeah, I don't think he wants the xterm window to show at all
[21:34] <wunjo> there all kinds of log files
[21:34] <wunjo> Im in log viewer btw
[21:34] <blaynestorm> is there any purpose to splash screens?
[21:34] <angel_linuxfreak> Hypnoz, I don't, but I will try it. So with this command it would look like this? "xterm -x /home/angel/.config/pystromo/pystromo-remap.py -m /home/angel/.config/pystromo/default.map &"
[21:35] <ori> does anyone have counterstrike forubuntu?
[21:35] <Hypnoz> wunjo: paste the output of "sudo tail /var/log/messages" and "sudo tail /var/log/syslog" into paste.ubuntu.com
[21:36] <Hypnoz> angel_linuxfreak: i'm not sure if that works with xterm ... but you could try it
[21:36] <wunjo> ok Hypnoz
[21:36] <blaynestorm> does anyone know anything cool about splash screens?
[21:36] <blaynestorm> leaving
[21:36] <angel_linuxfreak> Hypnoz, ok thanks
[21:38] <New2LinuxGuy> Newbie question here.  I have downloaded source code for application and I am trying to compile and install.  I have done the ./configure step and it gives me two dependencies: gtk+-2.0 & gstreamer-0.10.  I have done apt-cache searches for both and they are not in the repositories.  Is this normal?
[21:39] <guntbert> New2LinuxGuy: what do you want to install?
[21:39] <pepee_> New2LinuxGuy, apt-cache search gstreamer dev
[21:39] <blackmamba> anyone here using 10.04 netbook remix having brightness issues?
[21:39] <guntbert> !lucid | blackmamba
[21:39] <New2LinuxGuy> I was trying to teach myself how to download and compile software.
[21:39] <pepee_> New2LinuxGuy, you have to install the -dev packages
[21:39] <ori> does anyone have counterstrike for ubuntu?
[21:39] <Out_Cold> New2LinuxGuy: quite possible... try this command sudo apt-get build-dep <package name>
[21:39] <Azelphur> ori I have Source
[21:40] <Azelphur> ori if by "for ubuntu" you mean "in wine"
[21:40] <Hypnoz> ori: are you sure it even exists
[21:40] <Out_Cold> New2LinuxGuy: the package being what you are trying to compile
[21:40] <blackmamba> guntbert, why would u bother linking that lol. obviously its still in beta
[21:40] <ori> azelphur, yeah
[21:40] <ori> how did u install it without a cd?
[21:40] <Azelphur> ori from steam?
[21:40] <ZykoticK9> blackmamba, ask the same question in #ubuntu+1
[21:40] <ori> azelphur, yeah
[21:41] <Azelphur> the same way you'd install it on windows?
[21:41] <claptrap> So, what's the safest way to extend my primary partition?
[21:41] <guntbert> blackmamba: you should really read what you are sent: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[21:41] <ori> azelphur, um... could u tell me? lol
[21:41] <New2LinuxGuy> yea.
[21:41] <DarkStar1> Quick question regarding VNC. The allow only locay
[21:41] <Gelfling> ori you can run steam through wine
[21:41] <Azelphur> launch steam...click on game, it installs?
[21:41] <Hypnoz> claptrap: I've always had good luck booting with a livecd, and running "sudo gparted"
[21:41] <blackmamba> ah my screen was up to high, didnt see that
[21:41] <ori> azelphur, right
[21:41] <DarkStar1> damn I'll start again
[21:42] <claptrap> Hypnoz: Man, I always forget to mention I don't have a CD/DVD drive atm. :<
[21:42] <Out_Cold> claptrap: next time when you redo your partitions maybe look into LVMs
[21:42] <ori> azelphur, then what>
[21:42] <claptrap> Out_Cold: LVMs?
[21:42] <New2LinuxGuy> I started with locating a package in the repositories and then did an apt-get -d source and the name of the package.
[21:42] <Azelphur> ori then wait while it downloads...then play?
[21:42] <bullgard> trism: In order to test I can only input this command in a virtual console. I obtain: "**Message: Failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: /bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed."
[21:42] <New2LinuxGuy> then I unzipped it which put it into its own directory.
[21:42] <New2LinuxGuy> from there the ./configure command said I had those two dependencies.
[21:42] <DarkStar1> The "Allow only local" option in VNC, does that allow all users on the system to remote desktop in, or just the currently logged in USER?
[21:42] <Out_Cold> claptrap: logical volume manager. you can adjust sizes and add delete partitions on many disks
[21:42] <claptrap> +
[21:42] <trism> bullgard: yes, it won't work unless the DISPLAY is set properly so it can find your dbus session bus
[21:42] <guntbert> New2LinuxGuy: why not just sudo apt-get install <package> ?
[21:43] <ori> azelphur, lol i must be missing something... i can only run it through playonlinux
[21:43] <claptrap> Out_Cold: Have to install with it, though, or what?
[21:44] <Out_Cold> claptrap: you can build a small one, back up into it, then make the old partition a new volume and add it to the backup
[21:44] <switchgirl> !stream
[21:44] <Azelphur> ori get the latest version of wine from http://winehq.org/download , get steam from www.steampowered.com , install it as normal (by double clicking on it), and then install CS:S as normal (by clicking on it in the my games tab)
[21:44] <Out_Cold> claptrap: but that takes time and might cause a headache
[21:44] <switchgirl> !stream-mp3
[21:44] <DarkStar1> Anyone?
[21:44] <ori> azelphur, all thats there for me is R.u.s.e...?
[21:44] <switchgirl> i want to stream mp3's to a friend
[21:44] <marino_> how can I list channel in smuxi ????????????
[21:44] <claptrap> Out_Cold: Well, I needa do SOMETHING. I've only got ~40 total GB on the main partition, and it's not very happy with me for that.
[21:45] <Azelphur> ori what's R.u.s.e?
[21:45] <trism> bullgard: so basically you need to execute it inside your gnome session (not from a virtual terminal) or set DISPLAY (and perhaps XAUTHORITY) correctly
[21:45] <Tapout> what app do you use to monitor the nic on ubuntu livecd?  I don't have net access to install iptraf
[21:45] <marino_> ù
[21:45] <ori> azelphur, i dunno. but its the only thing there on the list...
[21:45] <Out_Cold> claptrap: what other disks do you have?
[21:45] <marino_> how can I list channel in smuxi ????????????
[21:45] <Azelphur> ori oh, counter strike isn't showing up on the list? then you don't own it or steam is bugging out (steam is buggy)
[21:45] <claptrap> Out_Cold: The 40 GB partition is on a 250 GB HDD; the other one is 500 GB.
[21:45] <switchgirl> !vlc
[21:45] <ori> azelphur, oh... i dont own it
[21:46] <New2LinuxGuy> I tried the apt-get command and it says: E: Build-dependencies for gcompris could not be satisfied.
[21:46] <ori> azelphur, do i have to pay?
[21:46] <Out_Cold> claptrap: and you want to move say /home to the 500?
[21:46] <Azelphur> ori ...yes?
[21:46] <ori> i see... not likeall the games on linux ;)
[21:46] <ori> azelphur, thanx for all your help
[21:46] <Azelphur> ori indeed
[21:46] <claptrap> Out_Cold: Well, really just wanting to make the 250 GB whole again.
[21:47] <Azelphur> ori good alternatives to CS would be saubraten or however you spell it :P
[21:47] <Azelphur> ori sauerbraten :)
[21:47] <ori> azelphur, thanxill check it o9tu!
[21:48] <Out_Cold> claptrap: here is the link to the lvm. but for that i'd maybe try the gparted method. trying to do a lvm with / on existing install may cause problems
[21:48] <Out_Cold> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpLVM-WithoutACleanInstall
[21:48] <DarkStar1> The "Allow only local" option in VNC, does that allow all users on the system to remote desktop in, or just the currently logged in USER?
[21:48] <claptrap> Out_Cold: Any way to do that without a CD/DVD drive? :<
[21:48] <claptrap> Out_Cold: And thanks
[21:48] <kop> I'm working with a usbstick made from the gui tool in ubuntu . is there any way to do away with graphic during live disk load to see what's going on ? like removing "quiet splash" from the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= line in /etc/default/grub?
[21:49] <Out_Cold> claptrap: IMO you should leave your / as 40 gb and set up new partitions for /home and /varva
[21:49] <pagasus> quick question: I am running Ubuntu, and I have a logitech wireless keyboard and mouse. I use the machine to watch movies but every 20 minutes, the mouse and keyboard go idle. Is there a way to disable that? is that a screen saver thing?
[21:49] <Out_Cold> ** /var
[21:50] <claptrap> Out_Cold: Is that relatively easy to do? :p
[21:50] <damian_> ii
[21:50] <kop> pagasus, sys>pref>pwr mgmt
[21:50] <Out_Cold> realitively yes
[21:50] <damian_> lmk,nk
[21:50] <pagasus> thank you kop. ill do that right now
[21:50] <edDd> :O?
[21:51] <Out_Cold> claptrap: is the remaining of the 250 and the 500 empty?
[21:51] <edDd> hi friends!
[21:51] <claptrap> Out_Cold: No.
[21:51] <casemods> can anyone help me get aircrack on ubuntu? i thought i installed it but it's not there
[21:51] <claptrap> Out_Cold: The 250 can be cleared out easily enough, though.
[21:52] <Out_Cold> claptrap: can you sudo fdisk -l and explain/pastebin the results?
[21:52] <socket_77> casemods: sudo aptitude install aircrack-ng
[21:52] <damian_> yy
[21:53] <pagasus> kop, I am actually running xubuntu, where would i find preferences? I don't see it under >applications > system
[21:53] <damian_> pppp
[21:53] <fyksen> Does anybody have a guide on how to install office 07 on ubuntu 9.10, easy and quick? : )
[21:53] <claptrap> Out_Cold: http://pastebin.com/cVCynNFH
[21:53] <casemods> socket_77: I can't seem to find the terminal now
[21:53] <JimmyNeutron> fyksen, i think you need to install wine first than office 2007
[21:53] <damian_> quit
[21:53] <damian_> :quit
[21:53] <kop> pagasus, sry :-/
[21:54] <pagasus> that's ok
[21:54] <fyksen> Y, iknow about wine ofc :) But fonts and some bugs?
[21:55] <claptrap> I'm about to try VirtualBox instead of Wine. :E See if I crash less that way.
[21:55] <fyksen> JimmyNeutron Dont I need some M$ Fonts or something? Or can i just install office in ubuntu NP?: )
[21:56] <JimmyNeutron> fyksen, sorry, i haven't tried using office under linux
[21:56] <trinikrono> you guys checked wine?
[21:56] <trinikrono> i just came on
[21:56] <trinikrono> office guy
[21:56] <JimmyNeutron> fyksen, I would imagine during installations, it would create the fonts folder for you..u can check where it installs the fonts
[21:57] <JimmyNeutron> and create a folder for the fonts if the folder isn't created and copy all the fonts from there into the newly created folder
[21:57] <trinikrono> whats wrong with open office
[21:57] <trinikrono> lol
[21:57] <JimmyNeutron> or just use Open Office....it can open up Office 07 docs I believe
[21:57] <trinikrono> yes!
[21:57] <trinikrono> it can now
[21:57] <JimmyNeutron> Can it open up *.docx files too?
[21:57] <trinikrono> try it
[21:57] <trinikrono> the new one
[21:57] <harisund> fyksen: I generally use VirtualBox
[21:58] <JimmyNeutron> fyksen, like harisund said...VirtualBox if your system can handle running it
[21:58] <netbook> LucidLynx menu icons don't show up by default for the system menu... same bug was in Koala
[21:58] <netbook> Of course it was an easy fix in Koala, go to 'Pref.' -> 'Appearance' -> 'Interface' tab -> check 'Show icons in menus'
[21:58] <netbook> there is no 'Interface' tab in Lynx Appearance Preferences'
[21:59] <trinikrono> go +1
[21:59] <Typos_King> !lucid | netbook
[22:00] <bourke> can someone tell me how to fetch build dependacies for a specfic package
[22:00] <netbook> trinikrono i tried googling for that channel, couldn't find it
[22:00] <netbook> thanks
[22:00] <trinikrono> #ubuntu+1
[22:00] <trinikrono> join that channel
[22:01] <Zellous> I cannot get my 88w8335 [Libertas] 802.11b/g Wireless
[22:01] <Zellous>  LAN card to work with a Karmic Koala Live USB.
[22:01] <hal> how do you restart the inetd service, please?
[22:02] <DarkStar1> can someone tell me where the tightvnc config file is please?
[22:03] <Typos_King> DarkStar1:  is it running?
[22:03] <DarkStar1> tha
[22:03] <Typos_King> tha?
[22:03] <DarkStar1> Typos_King: That's the thing I don't know
[22:03] <DarkStar1> Typos_King: sorry that was a typo
[22:03] <Typos_King> DarkStar1:  .... sooo check in your processes :)
[22:04] <Typos_King> DarkStar1:  you can try installing 'qps', is in the repos, which is a visual processes manager
[22:04] <Typos_King> and it'll show what's running
[22:04] <trinikrono> why you dont just use remote desktop
[22:04] <jellow> After reboot i have no sound , All i hear is cracking
[22:05] <trinikrono> jellow: try a different sound card
[22:05] <jellow> trinikrono: I don't have a diffrent sound card
[22:05] <trinikrono> jellow: find one :)
[22:05] <DarkStar1> Typos_King: Done. and 'ps -ea' doean't show that it's running
[22:05] <trinikrono> you changed the sound device?
[22:05] <Typos_King> hal:    check in the control panel and under ... either services or session, whetre it shows the services running at boot, and click on Start if it's stopped
[22:06] <jellow> After reboot i have no sound , All i hear is cracking
[22:06] <pagasus> anyone know where the power management settings in xubuntu?
[22:06] <hal> Typos_King: hi there.  I don't have a window manager installed ;)
[22:07] <Typos_King> DarkStar1:  the configuration file is either in a folder in ~ or an 'rc' file there too.... if you can run it, do so, and then run a lsof -C APPNAME; to shows what files it has open/inuse
[22:07] <Typos_King> hehe
[22:07] <VCoolio> hal: something like 'sudo service inetd restart' (on karmic) or 'sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart' (prior) ?
[22:08] <hal> Typos_King: I've installed swat and there is an entry for it in inetd.conf  - swat		stream	tcp	nowait.400	root	/usr/sbin/tcpd	/usr/sbin/swat
[22:08] <brandonc503>  so is ther anyway to view anything i apt-get since os instalation so that i can remvoe and start over without installing os over again?
[22:08] <hal> VCoolio: yeah, that's what I would have thought, but it's unrecognised
[22:09] <DarkStar1> Typos_King: can't find qps in the menu anywhere
[22:09] <kalesian> Hi, I don't suppose anyone here knows anything about Proliant servers and fan control?
[22:09] <Typos_King> hal:   you know, I don't see it on my end... no as a default service
[22:09] <hal> no Typos_King :(
[22:09] <Typos_King> DarkStar1:  you need to install it :)     sudo apt-get install qps
[22:10] <DarkStar1> Typos_King: I just used synaptic to install it
[22:10] <Typos_King> k
[22:11] <Aspect404> Help anyone, in the software center, I get an error "This requires the installation of unauthorized software" whenever I try to install software.
[22:11] <JimmyNeutron> Aspect404, sudo <command lines>
[22:11] <Typos_King> hal:   check VCoolio's line, I think -> sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart;  may do it
[22:11] <JimmyNeutron> and enter root password
[22:11] <JimmyNeutron> when ask
[22:11] <trinikrono> hey
[22:12] <hertoner> I need eclipse for php and c++. which packages provide it?
[22:12] <DarkStar1>  Typos_King
[22:12] <airtonix> !find eclipse
[22:13] <Typos_King> hertoner:    eclipse is a package on its own, you can just go to their website and get it, is java-based
[22:13] <DarkStar1> Typos_King:  Nope it's not running. Anyidea how to start it?
[22:13] <airtonix> Typos_King, or not
[22:13] <Typos_King> hertoner:   about 140mbs last I recall
[22:13] <airtonix> !info eclipse
[22:13] <Typos_King> DarkStar1:  ...    no.... ahemm   you mean you installed it and you dunno how to launch it?
[22:13] <airtonix> !info eclipse-platform | hertoner
[22:14] <dupondje> somebody knows an audio player that is able to sort on the directory ?
[22:14] <bullgard> trism: I agree. But I do not know if it then helps me anything because the aim was to determine the name of this particular dialog window.
[22:14] <airtonix> dupondje, banshee
[22:14] <dupondje> airtonix: I imported music, but its sorted on artist ...
[22:14] <airtonix> dupondje, but your question is quite vague.
[22:14] <trism> bullgard: ahh, I misunderstood what you were looking for
[22:15] <airtonix> dupondje, rhythmbox will if you show the location column.
[22:15] <bullgard> I forgot the command-lind command to update the grub2 after having made changes in its configuration.
[22:15] <dupondje> airtonix: well I want to sort my music in the playlist by the folder its in :)
[22:15] <DarkStar1> Typos_King: NEw to linux and I tried going via the /etc/init.d/tightvncserver start route
[22:15] <Typos_King> dupondje:   to sort directories?    what does that mean?   you do know that files sort order when viewed, is based on the file viewer/manager you're using, and there's no one-unique-sort order per se
[22:15] <bullgard> s/lind/line/
[22:15] <VCoolio> bullgard: sudo update-grub  << that easy
[22:15] <Madwill> how can you read what is your current java_home
[22:15] <airtonix> dupondje, then i suggest you use listen or gmusicbrowser
[22:15] <airtonix> !listen | dupondje
[22:16] <airtonix> !info listen | dupondje
[22:16] <Typos_King> DarkStar1:  what about the man pages?    checked ->   man tight<TAB>
[22:16] <airtonix> !info gmusicbrowser | dupondje
[22:16] <bullgard> VCoolio: Thank you very much.
[22:16] <Zellous> I cannot get my Wireless  LAN card to work with a Karmic Koala Live USB. I can post the results of the terminal command "sudo lshw" in the pastebin.
[22:16] <Fudge> hi im trying to mount a ufs usb stick, could someone plz help
[22:17] <Typos_King> Madwill:    java home?   or jvm home?
[22:17] <airtonix> dupondje, i find listen to be neater than gmusicbrowser, but you'd need to turn on the directory browser plugin... gmusicbrowser allows you to use 'location' as one of the filters alongside genre,album,artist,etc
[22:18] <hal> swat is working now, but I had to reboot (don't really like not being able to manually do it)
[22:18] <Fudge> trying mount -t ufs -o ro,ufstype=ufs2 /dev/sdc /media.usb
[22:18] <Typos_King> hal:   check VCoolio's line, I think -> sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart;  may do it  <---
[22:18] <Madwill> Typos_king i think its java_home for running TOMCAT
[22:18] <dupondje> airtonix: thx, lets try :)
[22:18] <Typos_King> hal:    did you try that?   if inetd   is there, I think the 'restart' argument will get it rolling
[22:19] <VCoolio> Fudge: typo in the target folder /media.usb?
[22:19] <hal> Typos_King: no, there is no script with that name
[22:19] <airtonix> dupondje, yep let me know how it goes for you
[22:19] <dupondje> airtonix: also need to make sure it doesn't modify audio files / ID3 information :)
[22:19] <Typos_King> ...
[22:19] <airtonix> dupondje, neither of those two will do that (unlike default banshee)
[22:19] <Fudge> i jsutmade the folder and used tabcomp, error back says  wrong fs type. im not sure, i have sdc and sdc1. the usb stick is 4gig and the image is only like small so not using the hole stick
[22:20] <kalesian> anyone have a Proliant here?
[22:20] <BigUrsis> Anyone good with networking have a good idea on how I could 1) access a single ip though eth0 (a nas) 2) the internet though eth1 (cellular connection) with the option of taking eth1 down and bringing up wlan0? All though network-manager
[22:20] <airtonix> dupondje, however for hassle free meta data editing while listening to music i like songbird.
[22:20] <Typos_King> hal:   since you have no window manager.. how about installing -> sudo apt-get sysv-rc-conf;  is a console bootup services utility, and you can stop/start/restart/remove any from there with just + or - presses
[22:21] <airtonix> BigUrsis, nm-applet doesnt support that
[22:21] <DarkStar1> how do I create a new group again?
[22:21] <Fudge> VCoolio  says wrong fs type, bad option or superblock
[22:21] <iustinian> newgrp
[22:22] <BigUrsis> airtonix, so set all the config manual with interface etc etc, is there still a way to let network manager manage wlan0 and still manualedit interface?
[22:22] <dupondje> hmz, installed listen, added directory, and now it sits there doing nothing :)
[22:22] <bullgard> [grub2, vga16fb] How can I  select a smaller font in my virtual console?
[22:22] <hal> Typos_King: I have chkconfig, which i prefer.  But it wasn't really that I didn't expect it to start on boot - but more that I didn't know how to start it without booting
[22:22] <econtomawesome> hi all! Does anyone know how to make turn a windows 7 iso into a bootable usb thingie for a netbook?
[22:22] <airtonix> BigUrsis, no. and unless you know how to do it manually i have no idea how to do such a thing. ( it would be very handy)
[22:22] <Trek> econtomawesome, that's kind of illegal
[22:22] <trinikrono> econtomawesome: use ubuntu!
[22:23] <iustinian> econtomawesome: there is a opensource tool on microsoft website
[22:23] <Typos_King> Madwill:    java home?     that will be a TOMCAT  variable you have to set I gather.... anyway usually java home is at -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-X-sun-1.XXXXXX/bin     on those XXX version number is where the java symlink to the binaries are
[22:23] <econtomawesome> iustinian do you know hte name?
[22:23] <econtomawesome> Trek bah. I bought a legal copy and won't use it on more than one machine anyway.
[22:23] <airtonix> econtomawesome, shouldnt you be asking this in #windows
[22:24] <VCoolio> bullgard: in grub menu, hit 'e' and put vga=773 behind the kernel line for 1024x768, google for other options
[22:24] <iustinian> econtomawesome: no but was in the news when they got it out
[22:24] <econtomawesome> trinikrono have need to dual boot
[22:24] <airtonix> !ot | econtomawesome
[22:24] <iustinian> econtomawesome: try googling for windows 7 usb creator smth
[22:24] <econtomawesome> airtonix I Use ubuntu for everything--it is the tool that I will be using to make such a tool
[22:25] <iustinian> u can replace windows with wine at any moment now
[22:25] <brandonc503> isent there a conference mode that hides the joins and quits from chat text?
[22:25] <airtonix> econtomawesome, your question is not related to ubuntu.
[22:25] <dupondje> airtonix: I got 1 folder (with subfolders) added now into Listen, but it still orders by album name now ...
[22:25] <Losha> iustinian: if only that were true...
[22:25] <VCoolio> brandonc503: what client do you use?
[22:25] <brandonc503> VCoolie: icechat
[22:26] <brandonc503> thought it was a setting in the room, not client
[22:26] <VCoolio> brandonc503: never heard of; check the preferences
[22:26] <econtomawesome> airtonix I disagree-i will be using ubuntu to perform the task, ergo intimately related
[22:26] <VCoolio> brandonc503: no, the client does it
[22:26] <airtonix> econtomawesome, we also don't provide tips on how to run nightclubs better just becuase you happen to be using ubuntu.
[22:26] <iustinian> airtonix: lolz
[22:26] <airtonix> econtomawesome, you are asking a windows question, take it to #windows.
[22:26] <econtomawesome> airtonix that's fantastic. But you do provide tips on using ubuntu?
[22:27] <streamsi> hi
[22:27] <airtonix> econtomawesome, you're also asking a question that violates the windows eula.
[22:27] <airtonix> !piracy | econtomawesome
[22:28] <histo> econtomawesome: this is a suport channel for ubuntu. We can't help you make your usb stick you were requesting. If you have a ubuntu related question ask away
[22:28] <harrymuffin> Hi there.
[22:28] <trinikrono> yo
[22:29] <econtomawesome> !ot |aitonix
[22:29] <econtomawesome> :-)
[22:30] <FriedrichMan> hi there everyone!
[22:30] <harisund> !hi | FriedrichMan
[22:30] <Typos_King> econtomawesome:  may I ask...why you need win7 on a usb stick?   anything wrong with the dvd?
[22:30] <FriedrichMan> thanks a lot for that
[22:30] <harisund> Typos_King: you need a USB stick if youare installing on machines that don't have an optical drive. Linux makes this easy, Windows doesn't
[22:31] <FriedrichMan> I have a question related to the Evolution mail client
[22:31] <Losha> econtomawesome: to add insult to injury, it's the top hit when you google 'windows 7 usb creator'...
[22:31] <iustinian> state the question not the fact u have one
[22:31] <bullgard> VCoolio: This does not change the resolution.
[22:31] <jrowe_> help with deciding on graphics card
[22:31] <Typos_King> harisund:    that's a good way ....  though as an administrator.... I'd think you would be able to do it doing an external optical through usb
[22:31] <FriedrichMan> I wanted to know if it's possible to get som kind of script in order to have it sending the same mail to some mail addresses but not on cc... but like in a loop
[22:32] <econtomawesome> Typos_King I use a netbook--no optical drive
[22:32] <FriedrichMan> I am sorry for my english, I am spanish speaking
[22:32] <econtomawesome> Losha I've been googling all day for this--all good
[22:32] <eremite> FriedrichMan: do you men a constant spam bot?
[22:32] <harisund> Typos_King: Not everyone has an external optical drive. USB disks are easy to come by, external disk drives aren't but anyway that's besides the point, econtomawesome is asking in the wrong channel
[22:32] <eremite> !es | FriedrichMan
[22:32] <DarthPuff> is there a command i can run to return all extensions in a directory and its subdirectories?
[22:32] <iustinian> FriedrichMan: I use mailman for that, apache server, postfix email server mailman is a cgi app
[22:32] <VCoolio> bullgard: sry, only thing I could think off; made a difference for me
[22:32] <eremite> DarthPuff:   ls -R
[22:32] <DarkStar1> where is my alias file stored?
[22:33] <Typos_King> econtomawesome:   if your netbook didn't come with win7....  does it come with a backup partition?
[22:33] <harisund> DarkStar1: What do you mean alias file?
[22:33] <iustinian> DarkStar1: /etc/aliasses
[22:33] <DarthPuff> eremite: thank you
[22:33] <FriedrichMan> theres the possibility of using scripts on evolution
[22:33] <bullgard> VCoolio: Thank you, anyway.
[22:33] <apacheBi> anyone know if its possible to get flash working on a live boot distro?
[22:33] <FriedrichMan> you add it from preferences
[22:33] <Typos_King> econtomawesome:   ... either way.. you can always just rent an external dvd drive :)
[22:33] <econtomawesome> Typos_King overwritten when I put Ubuntu on
[22:33] <harisund> apacheBi: The same way you would get it to work n a regular install
[22:33] <DarkStar1> sorry I meant the file that allows me to configure my shell environment variables such as command line aliases
[22:34] <apacheBi> harisund, thanks....having trouble any hints?
[22:34] <Losha> DarkStar1: usually ~/.bashrc
[22:34] <harisund> DarkStar1: It could be in /etc/aliases but sometimes they are sourced from ~/.bashrc too
[22:34] <apacheBi> green green newbie here!!
[22:34] <Typos_King> econtomawesome:   have you contacted Microsoft to explain that you had a legal copy of win7 and you needed back in your netbook?   what did they provide?
[22:34] <harisund> apacheBi: How did you go about it?
[22:34] <FriedrichMan> eremite: and I guess it might be something like a spam bot... but with purposes that are not annoying
[22:34] <JimmyNeutron> /etc/alias is for everyone
[22:34] <econtomawesome> Typos_King no I have not
[22:34] <JimmyNeutron> ~/.bashrc is for that user only
[22:34] <Losha> harisund: Unless things have changed mighily, /etc/aliases is for email aliases, not bash aliases...
[22:35] <kavurt> my computer cannot see ethernet. i use usb connection. how can i fix it?
[22:35] <harisund> Losha: oh ok someone above mentiond it I just followed along :D
[22:35] <iustinian> for bash aliasses u could use symlinks
[22:35] <Typos_King> econtomawesome:   they may just have a usb solution already :).... I know there's an usb XP
[22:35] <FriedrichMan> for example if I wanna use it to send a newsletter to my friends or something like that
[22:35] <DarkStar1> thanks guys. If I remember editing one makes it system wide and the ~./bashrc is limited to just the user.. right?
[22:35] <eremite> FriedrichMan: please do not ask for bot scripts in here.  This is a support channel.  Please visit #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:35] <Zellous> I cannot get my Wireless  LAN card to work with a Karmic Koala Live USB. I can post the results of the terminal command "sudo lshw" in the pastebin
[22:35] <econtomawesome> Typos_King for some reason Wine is working with it now--wasn't working earlier
[22:35] <DarthPuff> while doing ls -R is there a way to grep to exclude files with a certain file type?
[22:35] <smerz> kavurt, you can't get ethernet to work correct?
[22:35] <JimmyNeutron> DarkStar1, yeap...~/.bashrc is for the user only
[22:35] <harisund> DarkStar1: You could do ls -R | grep -v *.extension I think
[22:36] <kavurt> smerz: yes
[22:36] <iustinian> Zellous: try to load windows drivers in ndsiwrapper
[22:36] <Typos_King> econtomawesome:   furthermore... where did you get that dvd you're trying to use :P, doesn't sound very legal, at least no up to MS EULA
[22:36] <FriedrichMan> ok, sorry if I disturbed
[22:36] <harisund> err DarthPuff you could do ls -R | grep -v *.extension
[22:36] <apacheBi> been trying to type some commands in terminal as suggested in some forums but am on lbuntu live distro
[22:36] <FriedrichMan> I though it counted as evolution support
[22:36] <smerz> kavurt, could you please give the output of "ifconfig"
[22:36] <Losha> DarkStar1: system wide aliases usually go in /etc/bashrc. That only works if every users .bashrc sources /etc/bashrc...
[22:36] <smerz> !paste
[22:36] <econtomawesome> Typos_King Campus store
[22:36] <smerz> kavurt, use http://paste.ubuntu.com please
[22:36] <eremite> DarthPuff: do you have access to a GUI?  Just use the search utility that came with your distro and search for the specific file extension you need.  A complete list of files on your system should show up.
[22:36] <domjohnson> Hello - Has anyone here ever used ImageWriter?
[22:36] <Losha> DarkStar1: users -> user's
[22:36] <Zellous> Iustinian: What is ndsiwrapper?
[22:36] <domjohnson> or USB-imagewriter?
[22:37] <mcurran> Anyone know what I can check to get my mic working,  External plug by speaker input
[22:37] <DarthPuff> eremite: the thing is i want to search for for files that aren't a certain extension
[22:37] <iustinian> Zellous: ndiswrapper is a utility allowing you to load windows drivers in order to use your wirells addapter
[22:37] <DarkStar1> Losha: thanks
[22:37] <harisund> DarkStar1: You could do a find . and then do a inverse grep
[22:37] <iustinian> Zellous: on linux
[22:37] <Losha> DarkStar1: come back if it doesn't work...
[22:37] <DarthPuff> harisund: is there such thing as an inverse grep?
[22:38] <harisund> eh sorry I meant grep -v
[22:38] <DarkStar1> harisund: ... 0_o? huh?
[22:38] <Typos_King> econtomawesome:   so you paid $200  roughly about the same as your netbook, for a copy of vista to the Campus store?
[22:38] <iustinian> Zellous: we need more info on the chip the adapter is using also
[22:38] <smerz> kavurt, just to be sure you need to run that command in a terminal. You find one under Applications -> accessoires -> terminal
[22:38] <harisund> DarkStar1: that was not meannt for you sorry :P
[22:38] <mcurran> ndiswrapper will not support injection!
[22:38] <ukebane> harisund: you mean so it doesn't show whatever you put in the grep?
[22:38] <kavurt> smerz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/400821/
[22:38] <brandonc503> can i see all the stuff i apt-get to remove it without reinstalling os?
[22:38] <Zellous> Iustinian: I'll post it in the pastebin
[22:38] <Typos_King> no vista, win7 rather
[22:38] <brandonc503> linux sys
[22:38] <iustinian> mcurran: nor monitoring
[22:38] <DarthPuff> harisund: the inverse grep is not working the way i want it to :\... i just man grep.
[22:38] <mcurran> yeah, which means = useless
[22:39] <smerz> kavurt, you have wlan (wireless lan adapter) and a normal network card (eth1).
[22:39] <iustinian> mcurran: not everybody wants to inject ivs
[22:39] <harisund> DarthPuff: For example? Can you use pastebin or something to show what you have in mind?
[22:39] <mcurran> then they shouldn't be using computers
[22:39] <mcurran> :)
[22:39] <econtomawesome> Typos_King no. Dang cheap at the campus store.
[22:39] <smerz> kavurt, eth1 should be your LAN adapter correct? (in other words you only have 1 network card correct? )
[22:39] <DarkStar1> what's the terminal command for finiding out my ubuntu version?
[22:39] <econtomawesome> Typos_King no. Roughly $30
[22:39] <mcurran> noone has any clue about setting up mic
[22:39] <Myrtti> DarkStar1: lsb_release -a
[22:39] <DarthPuff> harisund: when i type in ls -R | grep -v *.pdf it returns 2 pdf files when it should be returning a bunch of .doc files
[22:39] <DarkStar1> Myrtti: thanks
[22:40] <iustinian> mcurran: i have a lousy rt2500 which barelly works in monitor monochannel mode
[22:40] <JimmyNeutron> brandonc503, apt-get -s <argument>
[22:40] <Losha> mcurran: sound is one of the more difficult parts of setting up Linux...
[22:40] <airtonix> !who | mcurran
[22:40] <mcurran> yeah, I know
[22:40] <JimmyNeutron> it wont do anything other than show you what WILL happen if you remove the -s
[22:40] <znh> mm does anyone know a script that prints a randomly chosen file from a specified directory?
[22:40] <kavurt> smerz: i think eth1 is usb. because my ethernet cable is not plugged in right now.
[22:40] <ukebane> harisund: try grep -v
[22:40] <mcurran> wrong syntax airtonix you idiot
[22:40] <harisund> DarkStar1: ah interesting one second
[22:40] <harisund> ukebane: That's what I suggested DarthPuff but it is not working for him apparently
[22:40] <Typos_King> econtomawesome:   gimme a few secs
[22:40] <kavurt> smerz: yes only one network card
[22:41] <mhh> irc.freenode.net
[22:41] <Zellous> Iustinian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/400822/
[22:41] <Losha> znh: you would write a script to do it. But why would you want to?
[22:41] <DarthPuff> harisund: i'm just going to manually go through and look :*(
[22:41] <harisund> DarthPuff: one second
[22:41] <ukebane> harisund: well I just tested it looking for something and excluding it, worked fine
[22:41] <smerz> kavurt, please go to www.whatismyip.com. Does it say <IP_ADDRESS> is your IP addr?
[22:41] <ukebane> harisund: maybe it just doesn't work on extensions?
[22:41] <znh> Losha, well I have these video files.. but I can't decide which one to play
[22:41] <harisund> ukebane: don't tell me, tell DarthPuff
[22:42] <iustinian> Zellous: geez never heard about that
[22:42] <kavurt> smerz: yes
[22:42] <smerz> kavurt, ok I assume it will say that.
[22:42] <ukebane> harisund: my bad ;)
[22:42] <DarthPuff> ukebane: i saw
[22:42] <smerz> kavurt, could you please open /etc/network/interfaces and paste it's content please
[22:42] <iustinian> Zellous: maybe ur lucky and it is using some known chipset
[22:43] <Zellous> Iustinian: I looked it up on google. I heard that I need to use the ndsiwrapper you were talking about.
[22:43] <DarthPuff> i'm pruning my eBook collection to only have iphone/ipad supported extensions
[22:43] <harisund> DarthPuff: cut the *, just do a .pdf , rather grep -v .pdf
[22:43] <iustinian> Zellous: u are pretty stuck with ndiwrapper indeed
[22:43] <MatBoy> anyone using hylafax on ubuntu ? I can't see anything in my queue
[22:43] <DarthPuff> harisund: ok
[22:43] <harisund> DarthPuff: I believe * on Bash does something else that you don't want to
[22:43] <eremite> DarthPuff:  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-programming-scripting/66523-how-do-you-exclude-files-find-command.html  page will not fully load for me, but if it does for you it shoudl have your answer.
[22:43] <iustinian> Zellous: ndiswrapper even
[22:43] <DarthPuff> harisund: thanks, that worked
[22:43] <DarthPuff> eremite: harisund solved my problem
[22:44] <DarthPuff> eremite: thanks though
[22:44] <eremite> good
[22:44] <ukebane> DarthPuff: I found it, you have to surround the extension with pipes, so grep -v *|.pdf|
[22:44] <iustinian> Zellous: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[22:44] <Kre10s> so... I need to add a source to aptget... but get the error: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 727D031129047922
[22:44] <Zellous> Iustinian: Is it in Ubuntu, or do I have to download it?
[22:44] <Kre10s> how do i work around this?
[22:44] <kavurt> smerz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/400825/
[22:44] <iustinian> Zellous: probably is installed already https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[22:44] <eremite> Kre10s: I was getting the same error.
[22:44] <DarthPuff> ukebane: harisund found it too. you don't even need a * or pipes. thanks for helping though.
[22:45] <Zellous> Iustinian: Thank you, I'll see what I can do.
[22:45] <Losha> eremite: the page loads for me without problems in firefox 3.0.18
[22:45] <iustinian> Zellous: yw
[22:45] <smerz> Kre10s, "sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 2A8E3034D018A4C" (USE YOUR KEY) to import key
[22:45] <eremite> Losha: it was hanging on google-analytics scrips when I was there, not sure why.
[22:45] <P-NuT> Hi guys, is anybody using anjal? The netbook frontend for evolution? It seems like it's needs something else installed as you can only see about an inch of your email. Does anyone else have this issue?
[22:45] <DarthPuff> here is another good questions. is there a command to remove empty folders?
[22:45] <Losha> eremite: plugin problem?
[22:45] <eremite> DarthPuff:   rmdir fielname
[22:46] <DarthPuff> eremite: i mean to autofind and remove them
[22:46] <Kre10s> smerz: Ah... so how do i know what "my" key is?
[22:46] <iustinian> P-NuT: is there a special evolution frontend for netboos ?
[22:46] <smerz> Kre10s, look in the message you pasted. It's the cryptic stuff at the end
[22:46] <Fresh> When your running a headless server is there a way to have to programs running at the ssame time?
[22:46] <moosekaka> I have a problem sharing my folder (ubuntu 8.04 on a dual boot win xp Dell Laptop) with my windows 7 PC on my home network
[22:46] <Fresh> When your running a headless server is there a way to have to programs running at the ssame time?
[22:46] <smerz> Kre10s, 727D031129047922 is the key you need
[22:47] <harisund> Fresh: What do you mean same time? What kind of programs are you running?
[22:47] <iustinian> Fresh: use screen
[22:47] <Kre10s> ah. i get iy.
[22:47] <smerz> kavurt, has this ever worked before for you. or is this your first attempt using ubuntu?
[22:47] <iustinian> Fresh: man screen
[22:47] <Fresh> okay thanks
[22:47] <P-NuT> iustinian: Yes there is, it's called anjal
[22:47] <P-NuT> apt-cache search anjal
[22:47] <P-NuT> that's the one
[22:47] <eremite> DarthPuff: find the default size of an empty folder and then do a search for all files on yoru system with the search utility, then place them inorder largest to smallest and all folders with the estimated size should be empty?  I know, its a poor-man's work around but it should help clearing some of the leftover bloat.
[22:47] <Losha> DarthPuff: there is a cheat for this: find . -type d -exec rmdir '{}' \; will find all empty directories and remove them. It relies on the fact that rmdir fails on non-empty directories, so expect lots of spurious error messages...
[22:48] <vrxchk> just supply -empty to skip over non empty dirs
[22:48] <kavurt> smerz: i have been using ubuntu for some time. but this computer is new. and it's the first time i face ethernet problem ever
[22:48] <Typos_King> econtomawesome:     http://pastebin.ca/1851924     <--- the first 2 links there, should do just fine, they all mention about using the .iso and mounting it.... I've done it with a booted DOS partition for xp, with just he i386 folder off the cd, and yes, the file you need to run is 'setup' or setup.exe to start the install
[22:48] <iustinian> P-NuT: if the problem doesnt appear on regular evolution frontend maybe u need to address the bug to anjal developers
[22:48] <P-NuT> Sure,
[22:48] <DarthPuff> Losha: thanks
[22:48] <DarthPuff> that wraps it up
[22:48] <DarthPuff> later
[22:48] <P-NuT> but I was wondering if anyone else had the issue
[22:48] <moosekaka> i have installed samba package, made sure my workgroup name is same as windows, but when i go to win 7 i cannot see my linux machine
[22:48] <smerz> kavurt, so it worked before correct?
[22:48] <eremite> Losha: how safe is that find . -type d -exec rmdir  '{}' \;
[22:49] <kavurt> smerz: not on this computer
[22:49] <iustinian> moosekaka: try to check if nmbd is running
[22:49] <histo> Anyone recomend an email client for command line. I'll be checking and using a gmail account with it.
[22:49] <manster> hey guys how can i get my laptop webcam working with karmic
[22:49] <smerz> kavurt, do you know the ethernet card type model or something?
[22:49] <manster> the easiest way
[22:49] <Elive_user58_en> I tried Lubuntu, it works
[22:49] <eremite> Losha: will that rm hidden folders too?
[22:49] <manster> my cam was working fine with cheese before
[22:49] <kavurt> smerz:  when i installed this computer, ehternet wasn't plugged in. i can give you lspci it shows the ehternet card
[22:49] <histo> manster: install cheese
[22:50] <deanus> manster, before what?
[22:50] <manster> and now "no camera found" and theres nothing in /dev/video
[22:50] <histo> !webcam > manster
[22:50] <Losha> eremite: perfectly safe as long as you want *all* empty directories removed, recursively, starting from the current directory. Also, you must have write permission in the parent directory to remove a directory. Yes, it will rmdir hidden folders too, if they are empty...
[22:50] <manster> ubottu, i read that before coming here
[22:50] <kavurt> smerz: 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Device 4381 (rev 11)
[22:50] <ubutom> moosekaka, have you tried connecting directly to the linux machine by it's ip address?
[22:50] <manster> was hoping there would be a simpler way
[22:50] <Typos_King> kavurt:  have you checke the manufacturer's site for the NIC for any drivers?   usually they'd have if any needed or not needed, which most times you don't
[22:50] <Elive_user58_en> Can Lubuntu use Wubi? i did not see it
[22:50] <smerz> kavurt, ethernet beeing plugged in or not does not make a difference. Ubuntu doesn't auto recognize your card by the looks of it.
[22:51] <moosekaka> ubutom: yes...windows says error network path not found
[22:51] <smerz> kavurt, it's a fresh install correct?
[22:51] <ubuntu> Guys I just purchased a siPix Infared printer, How do i connect it up?
[22:51] <Typos_King> econtomawesome:     got the links?
[22:51] <ubutom> moosekaka, like giving explorer in Win7 \\192.168.0.yourmachinesIp\
[22:51] <eremite> Losha: my next question, is it safe to remove empty folders?  None of them are needed tmp folders, for example?
[22:51] <kavurt> smerz: yes
[22:51] <manster> !webcam > manster
[22:51] <snow_ru> hi
[22:51] <moosekaka> the weird thing is that i can connect my win 7 PC if my laptop is booting in winxp
[22:51] <manster> ah i see
[22:51] <iustinian> moosekaka: u need to alow the ports in ufw too, if ufw is running
[22:51] <snow_ru> is there any grammar checker available for ubuntu ?
[22:51] <histo> manster: its a bot that we use to answer frequently asked questions
[22:52] <Typos_King> snow_ru   in open office Writer, yes
[22:52] <Elive_user58_en> Fresh - Kool & the Gang
[22:52] <manster> histo, yes i c
[22:52] <moosekaka> iustinian: sorry noob here i dont know what to type for nmdb or what is ufw
[22:52] <snow_ru> Typos_King, what is it ?
[22:52] <smerz> kavurt, hmm i have 2 suggestions to troubleshoot this. 1 reboot with cable plugged (if you haven't done this already). 2nd try it with karmic live CD. If it doesn't work you could try ubuntu lucid beta see if that recognizes it
[22:52] <snow_ru> Typos_King, you meant in open office ?
[22:52] <Typos_King> snow_ru   there are others... I think textmaker has one too
[22:52] <Elive_user58_en> So when is Lucid coming
[22:52] <iustinian> moosekaka: nmbd is the daemon responsible of resolving names in windows networks
[22:52] <Typos_King> snow_ru   yes, Writer, in open office
[22:52] <snow_ru> Typos_King, I meant something good like " white smoke "
[22:53] <kavurt> smerz: the first option doesn't work. I'll try the second. thanks
[22:53] <iustinian> moosekaka: but if you dont have access by IP could be something else
[22:53] <Losha> eremite: in general, it's safe if you do it starting from /home/user. I wouldn't do it anywhere else. Frankly, unless you've done something special that's left you with a very large number of empty directories, I'm not sure it's worth the risk to try and delete them...
[22:53] <Typos_King> !lucid | Elive_user58_en
[22:53] <Elive_user58_en> Does Mark irc here?
[22:53] <Fresh> does anyone have any suggestions for a good command line torrent client?
[22:53] <smerz> kavurt, you know the easiest thing would be to plug a "common" network card into your machine (if it's not a laptop).
[22:53] <moosekaka> ok i : sudo ufw status
[22:53] <moosekaka> returns firewall not loaded
[22:54] <USS> Hey guys
[22:54] <USS> I have a cable connecting the audio out in my computer to my televesion, my question is, can I play an audio that would produce an image when the cable is connected to the Video in on my tv?
[22:54] <Losha> Elive_user58_en: Mark who?
[22:54] <smerz> kavurt, the only other alternative would be to go looking for info online. maybe compile a kernel manually with the driver included
[22:54] <kavurt> smerz: it's a laptop :)
[22:54] <Elive_user58_en> What's better apt or rpm
[22:54] <perberos> pacman
[22:54] <Elive_user58_en> Losha ShuttleWorth
[22:54] <Typos_King> kavurt:  have you checke the manufacturer's site for the NIC for any drivers?   usually they'd have if any needed or not needed, which most times you don't
[22:54] <ubuntu> Guys I just purchased a siPix Infared printer, How do i connect it up?
[22:54] <smerz> kavurt, ye ok. What kind of laptop is it? Maybe i'll find something online regarding this.
[22:54] <Slart> USS: probably not.. a tv signal has much higher frequencies than an audio signal.. I think
[22:54] <Losha> Elive_user58_en: if he does, he doesn't let on that it's him. I imagine he has better things to do with his time...
[22:55] <iustinian> moosekaka: can u ping the linux from windows ?
[22:55] <USS> Slart: Hmmm not even a faint image? :P
[22:55] <Elive_user58_en> Losha: Thanks for the info
[22:55] <moosekaka> nope
[22:55] <kavurt> smerz: it's a sony i5. VPCEB18FD
[22:55] <moosekaka> my linux IP is <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:55] <Slart> USS: you can probably make some weird patterns.. if even that
[22:55] <moosekaka> my windows 7 IP is <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:55] <iustinian> moosekaka: same ip class ?
[22:55] <Typos_King> econtomawesome:     got the links?
[22:55] <Losha> USS: audio signals in general don't produce images. Not sure why you'd think they would, or what they'd look like...
[22:55] <moosekaka> not sure if that is an issue....win 7 is IPV4
[22:55] <Elive_user58_en> What is the best ip for router/modem? <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[22:56] <USS> I dunno, it doesn't have to be actual music, just noise
[22:56] <running_rabbit07> you can use any IP
[22:56] <USS> That would somehow produce at least a pattern
[22:56] <moosekaka> both machines are connected to the same router
[22:56] <Slart> USS: but ask in ##hardware, they might have a better idea
[22:56] <econtomawesome> Typos_King I think I figured out a workaround using my vbox winxp
[22:56] <USS> I'll check it out
[22:56] <USS> Thanks
[22:56] <Losha> Elive_user58_en: I usually put the router at <IP_ADDRESS>. It's just a convention but it's a handy one...
[22:56] <Typos_King> econtomawesome:     that means you never read my links :P
[22:56] <ubutom> moosekaka, do you have internet access on the linux box?
[22:56] <iustinian> moosekaka: what is the ip of the linux ?
[22:56] <Typos_King> ohh boy
[22:57] <kavurt> Typos_King: i didn't. i was looking for an easier fix, if available
[22:57] <USS> Lol it requires an invitation, no #hardware for me
[22:57] <Typos_King> econtomawesome:     http://pastebin.ca/1851924     <--- the first 2 links there, should do just fine, they all mention about using the .iso and mounting it.... I've done it with a booted DOS partition for xp, with just he i386 folder off the cd, and yes, the file you need to run is 'setup' or setup.exe to start the install
[22:57] <Elive_user58_en> Losha Thanks i turned off dhcp & manual it
[22:57] <moosekaka> yes....using network tools, says my linux is IPv4 <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:57] <econtomawesome> Typos_King sorry I had to reboot :-/ I'll look at the pastebin
[22:57] <ubutom> <IP_ADDRESS> is localhost
[22:57] <iustinian> moosekaka: not good that is not the good adapter
[22:57] <Losha> Typos_King: one of the things we all put up with on irc is that people are free to ignore our advice...
[22:57] <Slart> USS: try registering your nickname
[22:57] <Elive_user58_en> angel chris? magic dude
[22:58] <Slart> !register | USS
[22:58] <moosekaka> ?
[22:58] <iustinian> moosekaka: make sure u have a supported network adapter
[22:58] <USS> My Nick is registered
[22:58] <Typos_King> Losha:    ... well hehe
[22:58] <moosekaka> how can i chekc? mine is a dlink 615
[22:58] <Slart> USS: then you haven't identified yet
[22:58] <iustinian> moosekaka: and configured in network manager
[22:58] <Slart> USS: you know.. the /msg chanserv identify <password> thing
[22:59] <smerz> kavurt, can you find the laptop on sony.com? I cannot find any I'series laptops :(
[22:59] <Losha> USS: I can join #hardware without problems, I'm registered, but have no other special arrangement...
[22:59] <kavurt> smerz: i'll check
[22:59] <Typos_King> econtomawesome:     I've done with xp and 98se and such... it does work, is just a fat32 filesystem installation, and you juist need to run the .exe for 98 you'd run setup.exe for xp you 'd run winnt.exe, I guess for win7 they're using setup.exe sooooo, but that's how you'd  do it
[22:59] <Elive_user58_en> I read Ubunto One Music Store is in Lucid!!
[23:00] <Losha> Elive_user58_en: lucid discussion is on #ubuntu+1 only...
[23:00] <Elive_user58_en> Losha really, ok thanks
[23:00] <smerz> kavurt, is it maybe a sony laptop containting an i5 cpu ?
[23:00] <Typos_King> kavurt:  the easier fix may just be the provided drivers from the manufacturer :)  when not detected
[23:00] <histo> I need a command line email client.  one that hopefully can handle sending and receiving email like a curses type thing. Anyone have an idea?
[23:00] <Slart> histo: mutt is popular
[23:01] <digii> Can you repair bad sectors without destroying the OS?
[23:01] <Slart> histo: or pine.. or whatever the successor is called.. alpine?
[23:01] <Elive_user58_en> pine is cool for 2400baud
[23:01] <moosekaka> umm ok actually now i'm more confused i have full internet access on my  linux via my router....now possibly the problem
[23:01] <Losha> histo: elm, if it still exists...
[23:01] <moosekaka> is the adapter? confused
[23:01]  * Kre10s hears himself ask if anyone even bothers to buy misic anymore.
[23:01] <histo> Slart: yeah alpine is still around but can it handle sending mail or do I need a MTA as well. Thats what i'm trying to avoid.
[23:01] <iustinian> moosekaka: ip addr ls and see the ip
[23:01] <kavurt> smerz: you're correct. this is the computer: http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/sony-sony-vaio-15-5-intel-core-i5-processor-520m-2-40ghz-laptop-vpceb18fdwi-vpceb18fdwi/10140099.aspx?path=8b76e2838ca9390712fa9034585860c9en02
[23:01] <Elive_user58_en> Is ufw on by default
[23:02] <Losha> Kre10s: amazon certainly believes so, as does itunes...
[23:02] <Slart> histo: oh.. not sure about that..
[23:02] <Elive_user58_en> Why is Gufw not on ?!
[23:02] <ukebane> Kre10s: I still buy CD's, but not mp3's
[23:02] <moosekaka> ok i have a bunch of lines with lots of addresses...should i post them here
[23:02] <iustinian> moosekaka: something like eth0
[23:03] <billy> can someone help when i try downloading from the ubuntu software centre it says waiting for other software managers to quit?
[23:03] <Elive_user514> billy maybe you have apt or synpatic open
[23:03] <NHLPA> wazaaaaaa
[23:03] <iustinian> or update manager
[23:03] <billy> how do i close that ive tried re-starting
[23:04] <moosekaka> eth0: inet <IP_ADDRESS>/24 brd <IP_ADDRESS> scope global eth0
[23:04] <NHLPA> salut ma bande de guidounne:P
[23:04] <iustinian> moosekaka: try to ping that from wondows
[23:04] <iustinian> windows i mean
[23:04] <eremite> ukebane: I pity people who buy mp3s
[23:05] <Typos_King> Kre10s    I do when I believe of paying the craftman who made it :), and then make mp3s off them and give away the cds  hehe, I don't when  I can assess the craftman is not getting the payments and is going to someone else's pocket who's just trying to profit, rather than make a living
[23:05] <ubuntu> Guys I just purchased a siPix Infared printer, How do i connect it up?
[23:05] <snow_ru> Typos_King, the grammar checker in openo ffice is not good
[23:05] <Slart> ahem.. mp3-discussion.. might be better done in #ubuntu-offtopic..
[23:05] <snow_ru> Typos_King, do you know any better ?
[23:06] <moosekaka> ok ok sorry i was confused with the host address.....my WINDOWS 7 PC IP is <IP_ADDRESS>, i can ping my laptop's IP <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:06] <Typos_King> snow_ru   you're.... ahemmm     russian grammar?
[23:06] <smerz> kavurt, i'm still trying to identify the chipset. But well sony isn't making it easy for us ;-D
[23:06] <Fudge> how can i fsck an ntfs partition?
[23:06] <moosekaka> BUT when i try map the network via IP add in win 7 it say error network path not found
[23:06] <Typos_King> Fudge:   you don't
[23:06] <Slart> Fudge: using windows.. I don't think there is a ntfs fsck in ubuntu/linux
[23:06] <snow_ru> Typos_King, no, English grammar
[23:07] <Fudge> moving files i get errors, input output error
[23:07] <Elive_user514> I think ppl who use the livecd & reboot waste bandwidth d/l the sources from mirrors
[23:07] <enthdegree> Hey, for some reason I can't uninstall a package on ubuntu. Dpkg gives me an error about rm not being able to remove some locale because it doesn't exist.
[23:07] <iustinian> if you put that address in navigator bar ? \\<IP_ADDRESS>\share ?
[23:07] <kavurt> smerz: someone reported a bug about it i just found. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/532021
[23:07] <Slart> Fudge: then you need to boot windows somehow and do it from there..
[23:07] <Fudge> and sometiems locks my lucid alpha3, well most of the time
[23:07] <Typos_King> snow_ru   ... what are you specifically after?    grammar or a dictionary?
[23:07] <smerz> kavurt, Original - Marvell® Yukon 88E8057 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller Driver
[23:07] <Fudge> ok windows is dead but thanks
[23:07] <Slart> Fudge: if it's an external drive you might get away with doing it in a vm.. you still need to install windows in the vm though
[23:07] <snow_ru> Typos_King, GRAMMAR
[23:08] <billy> can someone help when i try downloading from the ubuntu software centre it says waiting for other software managers to quit?
[23:08] <smerz> kavurt, well they're saying that lucid will have the drivers :(
[23:08] <kavurt> smerz: i should wait the final release of lucid i guess. it says lucid will support it
[23:08] <smerz> kavurt, it's in beta stage so maybe that's your best bet
[23:08] <Typos_King> snow_ru.... ahemm  alrite... the other package I've used for wordprocessing will be TextMaker, I think is shareware but workable...the other you could try is AbiWord, also has a grammar checker I believe
[23:08] <Slart> billy: are you running synaptic in the background? update-manager?
[23:08] <smerz> kavurt, i have used this version (karmic) since beta. it should be acceptable
[23:09] <Typos_King> snow_ru   AbiWord is in the repositories
[23:09] <kavurt> smerz: i have lucid beta right now
[23:09] <snow_ru> Typos_King, check White Smoke
[23:09] <smerz> you're running lucid beta right now?
[23:09] <Elive_user514> I noticed in Firefox justin.tv streaming is choppy?!
[23:09] <kavurt> smerz: yes
[23:09] <billy> no ive just checked and i need this program for my work :S
[23:09] <smerz> kavurt, type "uname -r"
[23:09] <Fresh> what is a godo torrent program for the cli
[23:09] <smerz> lets see which kernel you got
[23:09] <econtomawesome> Typos_King got it to work. Thanks much sir for all your help--your links helped some. Adios!
[23:09] <Fresh> what is a godo torrent program for the cli?
[23:09] <rickb|server> Hello. What is the best way to get a VNC application working on my Ubuntu 9.04 server? I have never been able to forward X11 over putty and I need to run a GUI application on my server and I used VNC before and now am having no such luck. :\
[23:09] <Slart> Fresh: rtorrent
[23:10] <Typos_King> Fudge:   can you burn an .iso? for a live-win32 with checkdisk and other stuff?
[23:10] <kavurt> smerz: 2.6.32-17-generic
[23:10] <Fuzion24>  using ubuntu 9.10 and grub 1.97 I was playing with grub backgrounds and bootup settings
[23:10] <Fresh> alrighty thanks
[23:10] <moosekaka> hey it works ! :-D...only problem it i have to type \\IPadd\share folder name of ALL the folders i want to share in linux?
[23:10] <Fuzion24> I seem to have broke something and it will not allow me to boot.
[23:10] <moosekaka> is there a better way
[23:10] <smerz> kavurt, they claim it's supported in 2.6.33 :(
[23:10] <Fuzion24> grub boots fine but when I load my kernel I get usplash:no usable theme found
[23:10] <Fuzion24>  screen init failed
[23:10] <Fuzion24>  i googled and could not find a solution
[23:11] <Elive_user514> Fuzion24 hold down the shift button at boot
[23:11] <kavurt> so the final lucid will have 2.6.33? smerz?
[23:11] <Slart> Fuzion24: last time I checked most of the "configure your grub background" and such software didn't work with the new grub. but just kind of failed silently..
[23:11] <Slart> !lucid | kavurt
[23:11] <enthdegree> Hey, for some reason I can't uninstall a package on ubuntu. Dpkg gives me an error about rm not being able to remove some locale because it doesn't exist.
[23:11] <iustinian> moosekaka: maybe winscp in windows and a ssh server on ubuntu
[23:11] <Seveas> enthdegree, pastebin the complete output
[23:12] <Elive_user514> Fuzion24 i just read yesterday about ubuntu grub2
[23:12] <Fuzion24> thing is ... grub has a background now ... and its pretty.. but ubuntu will not boot
[23:12] <patryk_> test
[23:12] <Fuzion24> shift did not work while boot
[23:12] <iustinian> test failed
[23:12] <Elive_user514> Fuzion yeah it's like a uuid thing
[23:12] <smerz> kavurt, good question. It looks like for the moment they want to release lucid using 2.6.32
[23:12] <smerz> kavurt, thats the impression i got
[23:13] <Fuzion24> Elive_user514, can you elaborate?
[23:13] <smerz> kavurt, you could compile a 2.6.33 kernel
[23:13] <moosekaka> ok iustinian many thanks again seems now the linux machine shows up in my windows network as <IP_ADDRESS> with all the shared folders......only thing is that actually my linux machine name is really moosekaka-laptop
[23:13] <kavurt> smerz: thanks
[23:13] <moosekaka> is there a way to get win 7 to display the laptop name?
[23:13] <drummer2207> Hello
[23:14] <iustinian> moosekaka: it doesnt matter it is just a name :D and your welcome
[23:14] <drummer2207> Whats up?
[23:14] <Typos_King> Fuzion24:     what if you just redo the grub.cfg file?    sudo update-grub;    just don't forget to back up the old grub.cfg because you can refer to it to put back the theme
[23:14] <h4f> Hi all.
[23:14] <grendal_prime> ok I have  a list cve's  for like php exploits.  Where can i get a list of which ones of these has been delt with?
[23:14] <Fuzion24> I cant boot into linux...
[23:14] <smerz> kavurt, run the updater maybe 2.6.33 is in the repositories
[23:14] <iustinian> grendal_prime: secunia maybe
[23:14] <Fuzion24> because there is no grub.conf... I tried using the live cd
[23:14] <Typos_King> drummer2207:   ceiling, gaseous blobs, stratosphere :P
[23:14] <kavurt> smerz: ok
[23:14] <Fuzion24> but i have no way to update-grub
[23:14] <Typos_King> Fuzion24:     gimme a sec
[23:15] <moosekaka> now i have ONe more question...im trying to change my prompt in bash.bashrc....i tried change the PS1 variable in bash.bashrc but nothing happens
[23:15] <smerz> kavurt, otherwise download the kernel package. some folks have made a package for it
[23:15] <smerz> kavurt, look here: http://www.khattam.info/2010/02/06/installing-kernel-2-6-33-to-lucid-lynx-ubuntu-10-04-without-compiling/
[23:15] <Slart> smerz: lucid discussion in #ubuntu+1, please
[23:16] <kavurt> smerz: nice. thank you
[23:16] <smerz> Slart, yeah we're finished now :) but you are right of course
[23:16] <Slart> smerz: =)
[23:16] <Typos_King> Fuzion24:     boot with the live-cd and -> http://pastebin.ca/1849832    <-- skip the winxp part there, unless you do have a windows partition and need it in the menu too :)
[23:16] <bastid_raZor> moosekaka: i actually had to change mine in /etc/bash.bashrc which is not the recommended way. but it did work.
[23:16] <smerz> Slart, lucid was mentioned rather late in the discussion :)
[23:16] <kavurt> Slart: it's not really a lucid discussion. it's an ethernet problem :)
[23:16] <moosekaka> yes im trying to do that but nothing happens
[23:17] <Typos_King> Fuzion24:     bear in mind, you may want to back up your old grub.cfg, which I think is there, to refer to put your theme back in
[23:17] <Slart> smerz, kavurt: mm.. I tried to remain silent.. but you just kept going on and on =)
[23:17] <bastid_raZor> moosekaka: you need to open a new terminal in order for the changes to take effect iirc
[23:17] <smerz> kavurt, but for the record. non stable release problems should be discussed in #ubuntu+1. He's right. So just for the record and next time %)
[23:17] <moosekaka> yes the problem is that when i open a new terminal nothing happens
[23:17] <pfifo> dose anyone here have a wacom intuos tablet?
[23:18] <klepty> is there a way that I can use squid and ssh to make a encrypted proxy on my local ubuntu box?
[23:18] <drummer2207> nope
[23:18] <kavurt> smerz: Slart, ok. thans. i've gone
[23:18] <smerz> Slart, well our apologies then :)
[23:18] <moosekaka> here is what i try to do : PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\$ '
[23:18] <harisund> pfifo: I don't have that, but I have a wacom enabled tablet PC
[23:18] <moosekaka> when open a new terminal bash still shows the default username@hostname
[23:18] <iustinian> klepty: define encrypted proxy
[23:18] <pfifo> harisund, not exactly what im looking for but thanks
[23:18] <smerz> kavurt, no need to run :) And I hope I could help :) Good luck
[23:18] <ischliky> are there any options for the gnome taskbar panel so that i can set the minimum width to be more then default? in the past ive had it take up the whole width of the taskbar
[23:19] <harisund> What are you looking for? Someone else might be able to help (might, that's all)
[23:19] <klepty> iustinian: well forwarding http traffic through ssh
[23:19] <thon0925> I'm running the 10.04 beta and an update seemed to replace grub-legacy with grub2, which crashes and causes a reboot-loop (on RAID0), how can I get frub-legacy back?
[23:19] <ubutom> any application that recognizes wacom tablets?
[23:19] <Typos_King> !lucid | thon0925
[23:19] <bastid_raZor> moosekaka: you need to put  export before PS1
[23:20] <moosekaka> basically i just want my bash prompt to show the ~$
[23:20] <ubutom> I mean with pressure sensitivity and so on, without having to manually edit xorg.conf?
[23:20] <moosekaka> export? eg?
[23:20] <bastid_raZor> moosekaka: export PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\[\e[1;32m\]\h\[\e[00;00;00m\]:\w\$
[23:20] <Elive_user514> Fuzion24 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[23:20] <hdtdi> i have a question.. i have installed one virtualbox.. can i run 2 or 3 virtualmachines (i dont know how to call it).. at the same time ?
[23:20] <harisund> ubutom xserver-xorg-input-wacom is the only package there :(
[23:20] <metalf8801> Where are Pidgin log files stored?
[23:20] <bastid_raZor> moosekaka: that is mine.
[23:20] <harisund> hdtdi: not exactly a quesiton to ask on #ubuntu but yes you can
[23:20] <ubutom> k, thanks harisund
[23:21] <Typos_King> metalf8801:   I'd think under ~ some folder for it
[23:22] <metalf8801>  Typos_King ok
[23:22] <h4f> I have upgradet to Beta. Where is the new Gnome Look ? how do I change back pidgin font size ?
[23:22] <smerz> kavurt, I sent you a private message. Just to be on the safe side and to avoid a potential pitfall
[23:22] <moosekaka> umm no good
[23:22] <Typos_King> hdtdi:    that's the sole purpose of the virtual environment, so yes
[23:22] <iflema> metalf8801 theres a folder named .purple in your home directory.... its a hidden folder......
[23:22] <bastid_raZor> h4f: join #ubuntu+1 for lucid|10.04
[23:22] <moosekaka> still dont work....basically the default prompt refuses to change
[23:23] <hdtdi> thanks
[23:23] <metalf8801>  iflema ok thank you
[23:23] <moosekaka> is there some other profile that is overiding the bash.bashrc?
[23:24] <metalf8801> I had been looking for a folder called pidgin
[23:26] <smerz> metalf8801, ~/.purple/logs
[23:28] <natediddy> is there anywhere that I can get plugins/updates for things like Check Gmail and/or Wine, Amarok, etc.?
[23:28] <metalf8801> smerz thank you I found it :)
[23:28] <smerz> moosekaka, you mean ".bashrc" file right?
[23:28] <natediddy> i tried to install those and they all failed with "apt-get errors"
[23:28] <ubutom> natediddy, tehre are several apps for checking gmail in the repository
[23:28] <natediddy> ok
[23:29] <smerz> natediddy http://code.google.com/p/gnome-gmail-notifier/wiki/About
[23:29] <ubutom> just do a search for them in software center natediddy
[23:29] <smerz> for gmail
[23:29] <natediddy> ok thanx
[23:29] <smerz> yeh maybe even in the rpository. i'd suggest following ubutom's suggestion first :)
[23:29] <moosekaka> yes
[23:29] <Typos_King> ..
[23:29] <perryarmstrong> has anyone here worked with QccPack...i need some serious help
[23:29] <Typos_King> natediddy:   have you done an -> sudo apt-get update; yet?
[23:29] <ubutom> :) smerz  stumbled upon them while browsing for useful apps
[23:30] <moosekaka> i made sure i uncommented the 'fancy prompt line' in the bash.bashrc file
[23:30] <natediddy> Typos_King, yes i have
[23:30] <moosekaka> and made changes but nothing happens prompt is still username@hostname
[23:30] <Typos_King> natediddy:   what error is apt-get giving you?   can you paste it in a pastebin?
[23:31] <moosekaka> theere is a comment in .bashrc saying # set a fancy prompt (non-color, overwrite the one in /etc/profile)
[23:31] <natediddy> nah i already closed out terminal :/
[23:31] <Neezer> I am finally backing up my music right now with rsync. It is taking a long time! If I do this every day will it always take this long?
[23:31] <smerz> moosekaka, i dunno. Don't know it at the top of my head
[23:31] <moosekaka> but when i checked the /etc there is not profile
[23:31] <natediddy> didnt think of that
[23:31] <smerz> Neezer, where are you backing it up to?
[23:31] <Pirate_Hunter> is there any point encrypting the disk on a new install (desktop)
[23:32] <perryarmstrong> has anyone here worked with QccPack...i need some serious help
[23:32] <Neezer> the music is on my server, but I got a 1TB drive that I'll put my music, movies, and pictures on as backup. it is a usb drive.
[23:32] <smerz> Pirate_Hunter, the root filesystem "/" no. /home well maybe ;-) It depends
[23:32] <moosekaka> should i put the bashrc file in /etc/profile?
[23:32] <Neezer> sorry smerz, I did't use your name before.
[23:32] <smerz> moosekaka, it should be in your home directory
[23:33] <smerz> Neezer, so your backup does from the server directly to the usb drive? or via ethernet or something?
[23:33] <iustinian> Pirate_Hunter: for a desktop, you could use truecrypt for couple of sensitive directories
[23:33] <Emanon> ok heres a weird one i have had 3 drives fail in the last 2 or 3 months across 3 separate os's in 3 separate rooms, not just start throwing errors actually cease being detectable any ideas?
[23:33] <EnigmaticCoder> is gmail down (after logging in)?
[23:33] <Emanon> on 3 separate computers as well
[23:33] <Neezer> smerz, directly to the drive from the server. The USB drive is connected to the server.
[23:33] <Pirate_Hunter> smerz, im trying to figure out what benefit encrypting will have the only I can find is if the disk gets stolen but for me that aint going to happen any time soon
[23:33] <iustinian> Emanon: try checking your electric supply
[23:34] <smerz> Neezer, well then rsync should give you max performance.
[23:34] <Emanon> all on different computers iustinian
[23:34] <gyles19> I have a Thinkpad SL510 with a dvd/cdrom drive which refuses to write discs of any flavor. I've searched the forums and the bug reports and can't find anything that got responses.  Can you point me some place I can find help with this drive?
[23:34] <Emanon> all with separate surge protectors
[23:34] <iustinian> gyles19: drive firmware update maybe
[23:34] <perryarmstrong> has anyone here worked with QccPack...i need some serious help
[23:34] <Emanon> one on ubuntu 9.10 one on vista and one on windowse mce
[23:35] <Emanon> and 3 different drive types across 2 different manufacturers
[23:35] <Emanon> one maxtor 2 seagates
[23:35] <iustinian> Emanon: that is pdd
[23:35] <iustinian> odd i mean
[23:35] <Emanon> yea
[23:35] <arielCo> Hello everyone! I'll shoot right away: I just got an error from the Update Manager about as new version of nvidia-settings_195 trying to overwrite a file "which is also in package nvidia-glx-195". It's just the nVidia logo, but it blocks the installation. The file is not present in the current version of nvidia-settings.
[23:35] <Typos_King> Emanon:   that just means you've been buying El Cheapo brand hd's :P~
[23:35] <smerz> Pirate_Hunter well if you loose your laptop the home drive with your data will be protected. So it's up to you. Do you need it? We can't answer that for you
[23:35] <Pirate_Hunter> iustinian, based upon my previous post to smerz  I am thinking on the lines of encryption on the disk that makes it harder for new users to check directories except for their own i.e. ls would show no results outside their directory but I aint sure if that is possible and if it is I bet it is a hassle to pull off
[23:35] <Emanon> nope typo
[23:35] <Neezer> smerz, I have 80 GB of music though....how long would that take? is is usb 2.0, and I used the compression tag too, but I forget which one it was.
[23:35] <smerz> Pirate_Hunter, you don;t need encryption for that
[23:36] <Emanon> one came in an alienware one in an xps one year older
[23:36] <smerz> Neezer, i'll calc it in a sec
[23:36] <arielCo> /usr/share/pixmaps/nvidia-settings.png
[23:36] <Emanon> and one in my personal computer with barracudas iirc
[23:36] <Typos_King> Emanon:   you know HDs have one 1year of manufacturer's warranty?
[23:36] <Pirate_Hunter> smerz, I don't? Than what do I need?
[23:36] <Emanon> all different age drives
[23:36] <smerz> Pirate_Hunter, to lock users into their respective home directories is default behaviour. Only superuser/root can access other users folders
[23:36] <Emanon> within 2 or 3 months of eachother
[23:36] <Neezer> smerz, it was -azvv for the tag.
[23:36] <digii> ubuntu just destroyed my life, holy
[23:36] <DarkStar1> how do I run phpsysinfo?
[23:37] <deanus> Sadly, ubuntu by default doesnt stop other users reading other users files..
[23:37] <Typos_King> Emanon:   sounds like something is funky in your hardware then
[23:37] <smerz> Neezer, a full copy assuming 40mb/s write (which could be an optimistic estimation) takes around 34 minutes
[23:37] <iustinian> !troll ! digii
[23:37] <metbsd> this distro has so many ppl, why
[23:37] <metbsd> what's special about ubuntu
[23:38] <eremite> metbsd: IT WORKS.
[23:38] <SysTeck> DarkStar1,   look at sourceforge
[23:38] <Slart> metbsd: easy to use? check ubuntu.com.. I'm sure they list a lot of reasons there =)
[23:38] <metbsd> no it doesn't
[23:38] <Typos_King> deanus:     doesn't stop you from setting permissions on your folders and files either
[23:38] <Pirate_Hunter> smerz, I eman lock them pernantle so that they can't even see the file or folders in /, /* on this comp im the only user but the last system allowed me to browse the filesystem I wish for users no to do that not even to know what directory in / they are browsing
[23:38] <eremite> metbsd: I disagree.  I never had problems.
[23:38] <Neezer> oh.....I don't think i'm going near that fast.....oh well. no hurry. thanks smerz, if i understand correctly, the next time I do it, it will only check for differences and then sync the folders so it should be a lot faster.
[23:39] <Emanon> so i know it isnt the drive specifically (since it was 3 different models and 2 separate manufacturers) not the computer itself (3 separate computers on 2 different OEMS) not the os (3 different os) not the circuit they're all on different ones in different rooms and all on surge protectors im lost for a solution
[23:39] <deanus> Typos_King, you shouldnt have to... might as well make the whole fs world readable...  /home stuff is more important..(to the user)
[23:39] <Slart> metbsd: do you have a support question about ubuntu?
[23:39] <toyman61> No sound available!  Freshly installed Ubuntu 9.10 on PC-HW..  If you have a gui on your server I would recommend "sbackup". simple easy and works
[23:39] <bazhang> metbsd, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:39] <iustinian> Emanon: try to check the temperature readings in SMART
[23:39] <eremite> toyman61: open alasamixer and turn up yoru volume
[23:39] <iustinian> Emanon: maybe ventilation issues
[23:39] <metbsd> is mint same as ubuntu?
[23:39] <Typos_King> deanus:   so change your ~ umask, it doesn't take that much to do so
[23:40] <grendal_prime> grrrrr
[23:40] <eremite> metbsd: no
[23:40] <smerz> Pirate_Hunter, what is the reason for users not to be able to browse "/" ? There is nothing wrong with that
[23:40] <Slart> Neezer: "Back in time" is also very nice..
[23:40] <toyman61> eremite: In terminal-window ?
[23:40] <bazhang> metbsd, do you have an actual support question?
[23:40] <eremite> toyman61: yes
[23:40] <deanus> Typos_King,  no it doesnt... tell that to ubuntu.
[23:40] <Emanon> xps and alienware had really good cooling this less so but well within operational limits
[23:40] <grendal_prime> i could have sworn there was a site that showed cve patches and when there were delt with
[23:40] <Typos_King> deanus:   maybe they let the choice up to you :P~
[23:41] <Emanon> they are in the same house and on the same router but that is the only thing they have in common
[23:41] <iustinian> Emanon: vibrations, try reading the SMART registers anyway
[23:41] <Pirate_Hunter> smerz, sense of security but in this case I personally wish not to allow it due to the type of environment on this machine, is there a way to do this?
[23:41] <Slart> smerz: regular users can browse /   you have read permissions afaik
[23:41] <deanus> Typos_King, why not forget about permissions, leave it upto you...
[23:41] <smerz> Pirate_Hunter, I'm afraid not.
[23:41] <smerz> Slart, i know
[23:41] <Emanon> iustinian, got a command for me (ill have to turn on smart in the bios) but for when i do
[23:41] <Slart> smerz: oh.. sorry.. nevermind me
[23:41] <smerz> Pirate_Hunter, if a user would not have access to read outside his home directory he cannot use the computer
[23:41] <smerz> Slart, n.p.
[23:41] <DarkStar1> Hi. what's the quickest way to start sysinfo?? I have it installed and never used it before
[23:41] <iustinian> Pirate_Hunter: u could lock every user in a separate virtul machine
[23:42] <iustinian> Emanon: smartctl -a /dev/sda
[23:42] <Emanon> thanks iustinian
[23:42] <metbsd> what's diff between ubuntu and mint
[23:42] <bazhang> !ot > metbsd
[23:42] <ubutom> the taste? :P
[23:42] <Emanon> mint has certain extra things ubuntu doesnt package for legal reasons
[23:42] <Slart> metbsd: mint is a derivative of ubuntu.. lots of stuff are similar.. you might want to ask that question in a mint support channel though..
[23:43] <iustinian> frankly i found mint even more limited than ubuntu
[23:43] <smerz> Pirate_Hunter, maybe just to clarify. Non-sudo/root users must be able to read "/" and be able to execute tools in "/bin" etc. But since they are not root they cannot damage the system. They can only read
[23:43] <Typos_King> deanus:   there's always a balance to be made when issuing an app/OS what to default and what to allow, soo thus far the permissions are that way for $HOME, so thus far the balance is to let you block it if you choose it, or not.... as oppose to block it by default, those are balances always taken into consideration and  changing based on people's views
[23:43] <Pirate_Hunter> iustinian I could but this current machine has not got the amount of resources to pull that off
[23:44] <iustinian> Pirate_Hunter: user mode linux is not that expensive, i dunno if it is developed anymore
[23:44] <Emanon> oh and btw just ran that on one of my working drives (same model as the failed one) it IS a Barracuda
[23:44] <Typos_King> deanus:   there may not be helpful to 'you' alone, sure but you're not barred from chaning it either, anymore than other defaults
[23:44] <Emanon> i didnt think that was an el cheapo brand/model
[23:44] <Pirate_Hunter> smerz, I understand that just thought there was a way to make the filesystem invisible while permitting users on a server to work within their own /home area
[23:45] <Pirate_Hunter> iustinian, user mode linux?
[23:45] <smerz> Pirate_Hunter, I'm certain thats not possible. User mode linux maybe the best bet as iustinian suggested. But without virtualization of some kind it's not possible
[23:46] <iustinian> Pirate_Hunter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User-mode_Linux
[23:46] <DarkStar1> ANy phpsysinfo users here?
[23:46] <Emanon> dang can't stay to get this fixed right now thanks for the help though be back later
[23:46] <Pirate_Hunter> smerz, no problem will look into user mode linux since I haven't heard of it, thanks iustinian for the link
[23:47] <iustinian> smerz: uml is still some kind of old virtualization
[23:47] <smerz> yeah
[23:47] <smerz> pseudo virtualization would fit wouldn't it? :)
[23:47] <Typos_King> DarkStar1:   so you installed it and dunno how to run it?
[23:47] <iustinian> more like jails lolz
[23:47] <eremite> Pirate_Hunter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User-mode_Linux
[23:48] <smerz> but i've heard of some commercial hosts using it to sell virtual servers so it cant be that bad
[23:48] <toyman61> eremite: Adjusted the sound volume using the alasamixer. But no sound on my loudspeakers when I tried to play a music CD using Rythmbox.. :-(
[23:48] <DarkStar1> Typos_King: Yes.. I'm new to this whole linux suite of programs
[23:48] <iustinian> yeh all the botnets are using those to control the bots thourgh irc commands
[23:48] <metbsd> where is mint linux?
[23:49] <Typos_King> DarkStar1:    go to the console and use autocomplete :)  ->   php<tab>
[23:49] <WhiteDawn> toyman61: run lsof | grep /dev/snd
[23:49] <Typos_King> DarkStar1:    it will show the available commands starting with THAT
[23:49] <bazhang> metbsd, that is offtopic here, and not supported.
[23:49] <bazhang> !mintsupport > metbsd
[23:49] <metbsd> i know, im asking where is mint channel
[23:49] <DarkStar1> Typos_King: nothing listed
[23:49] <toyman61> eremite: pulseaudi 1548 tomaurlund  mem       CHR              116,6                4108 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[23:49] <toyman61> pulseaudi 1548 tomaurlund   28u      CHR              116,9      0t0       4094 /dev/snd/controlC0
[23:49] <toyman61> pulseaudi 1548 tomaurlund   33u      CHR              116,9      0t0       4094 /dev/snd/controlC0
[23:49] <toyman61> pulseaudi 1548 tomaurlund   35u      CHR              116,9      0t0       4094 /dev/snd/controlC0
[23:49] <toyman61> pulseaudi 1548 tomaurlund   41u      CHR              116,6      0t0       4108 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[23:49] <FloodBot4> toyman61: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:50] <Typos_King> yiikes
[23:50] <SysTeck> hehe
[23:50] <toyman61> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:50] <iustinian> that looks busy
[23:50] <Typos_King> DarkStar1:    have you looked in your apps menus yet?
[23:50] <eremite> toyman61: is it just CDs that dont work?  Have you tried flash video, for example?  You are sure the volume is turned up?  Do you have the codecs installed?  Is this a fresh install of Ubuntu?
[23:51] <toyman61> eremite: output from lsof | grep /dev/snd    pulseaudi   /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p   /dev/snd/controlC0
[23:51] <WhiteDawn> toyman61: pulseaudio is using your alsa, u cant use alsa mixer to change volume, you need to use pluseaudio
[23:51] <DarkStar1> Typos_King: well it's installed according to synaptic
[23:51] <sik4mpret_> hello
[23:51] <WhiteDawn> sik4mpret_: hey there
[23:52] <sik4mpret_> ^__^
[23:52] <sik4mpret_> i'm nubie.
[23:52] <Typos_King> DarkStar1:    then it'd show in the menus usually, with the rest of the apps under some category, for php I'd think under web development or such
[23:52] <irqsRFun> I'm using Konservasation, is there an easy way to resond to a question (without typing the name?)
[23:52] <WhiteDawn> sik4mpret_: well if you have any problems dont hesitate to ask
[23:52] <sik4mpret_> :D
[23:52] <sik4mpret_> oke
[23:52] <Anonymous8743> irqsRFun: use <TAB> ?
[23:52] <ubutom> irqsRFun, usuallytyping the beginning of a name and then hitting tab
[23:53] <Typos_King> heh
[23:53] <SysTeck> irqsRFun,   you havr to type part of it
[23:53] <irqsRFun> thanks, tab cpmpletion
[23:53] <SysTeck> yup
[23:53] <Typos_King> irqs<TAB>   if ther are many with  the same letters, keep tabbing :)
[23:53] <toyman61> eremite: Fresh install of ubuntu. I have loaded "restricted formats" (to support DVD, Mp3 and so on). Nothing else. Maybe I'm lacking some codecs ? How do I find out ?
[23:54] <zvacet> !ask | sik4mpret_
[23:54] <eremite> toyman61: DID YOU TRY ANY OTHER AUDIO FORMATS?
[23:54] <eremite> oops, caps lock
[23:54] <gyles19> Thanks for the tip about the bios, I browsed Lenovo's website and found several bios updates for this machine, the most recent in December.  Next time I have a chance I'll start with that... except the update is on a bootable iso and I can't write it...! Catch-22.
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[23:55] <eremite> werd dawg
[23:55] <WhiteDawn> gyles19: I miss floppies
[23:55] <eremite> WhiteDawn: why?    Nice joke.
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> Shabba
[23:57] <Typos_King> I guess it could also be an albino
[23:57] <eremite> Being albino has nothing tod o with racial ancestry, aside from the genetic component of albinoism.
[23:57] <irqsRFun> metbsd: check out www.distrowatch.com it has a three sentence description of Mint
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> Distrowatcjh says lubuntu at 8th distro biatch
[23:58] <wjm> Hey for some reason in Ubuntu (but not Fedora/BSD) megaupload.com is causing FireFox to crash out any thoughts?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> Firefox sucks is my thought
[23:59] <wjm> yeah that's what I thought too but it does it in Chrome
[23:59] <dmdevotee> hey, anybody knows if, i can open a terminal that redirects to the opened folder ?? (like dolphin)
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> Wjm: try the mozilla ppa
[23:59] <SysTeck> wiat 10 years none of this will matter
[23:59] <wjm> ActionParsnip: I did and I even ran it from CLI