[09:50] <qt2> HappyFool, do i have to add it to that for it to be permanent?
[09:51] <HappyFool> qt2: add what to what?
[09:51] <ale3hs> is it possible, to send some data (coordinates etc of specific points) to a tomcat server and get back in my mobile a map of this area scalled to fit into the screen of my mobile?? I just ask before I check if it can be done..
[09:51] <Syirrus> whereis the xorg.conf file at again?
[09:51] <Syirrus> /etc/X11?
[09:51] <HappyFool> hume: an easy way is to put the setserial call in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[09:51] <mojo> Syirrus: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:51] <qt2> HappyFool, /usr/local/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf
[09:51] <ale3hs> oops wrong channel
[09:51] <dpupp> is there a way there a way that i can reinstall default mounting methods? anyone know?
[09:51] <mojo> Syirrus: you are running Ubuntu 5.10 (breezy badger), correct?
[09:52] <windowmaker> mojo: a good restart was all it needed
[09:52] <hume> HappyFool, ok, does that run before gdm?
[09:52] <windowmaker> mojo: it's working great now, it automatically mounted at startup
[09:52] <HappyFool> qt2: to be honest I don't remember what ldconfig does. I normally just set LD_LIBRARY_PATH in ~/.bashrc or somewhere similar
[09:52] <Syirrus> mojo: yes
[09:52] <zevin> Can anyone point me to a help source about getting my ATI card to work? i followed the ubuntu starter guide steps and they didn't help.
[09:52] <mojo> windowmaker: yeah.  SOMETHING was tying up those folders on you.  There was some process (nautilus window on desktop, or SOMWTHING) that was keeping those folders marked 'busy'
[09:52] <HappyFool> hume: i believe so, yes
[09:52] <windowmaker> mojo: and currently i am listening to one of my favourite Jrock bands on xmms, thanks for all your help XD
[09:52] <odat> anyone know how to get streaming media "wmv" working under Ubuntu?
[09:53] <Syirrus> mojo: http://pastebin.com/458150
[09:53] <mojo> Syirrus: cool
[09:53] <Syirrus> :)
[09:53] <hume> HappyFool, just put the 'setserial <settings> last, before exit? (i'm not good at scripts)
[09:53] <HappyFool> hume: yeah, before the 'exit 0' line
[09:53] <dpupp> what items do i need to re-install to get my computer to auto mount devices? auto mounting is no longer working.
[09:54] <qt2> HappyFool, might i ask what your ldpath is set to? :o
[09:54] <qt2> HappyFool, as an example, of how to specify multiple directories.
[09:54] <HappyFool> qt2: /home/rory/usr/lib  -- I install stuff to $HOME/usr
[09:54] <qt2> hm
[09:55] <HappyFool> qt2: oh, just use colon separation ( $HOME/usr:/usr/local/lib:/opt/lib )
[09:55] <HappyFool> qt2: 'man ld.so'
[09:57] <odat> anyone know how to get streaming media "wmv" working under Ubuntu?
[09:58] <faul> hi, has anyone installed the php5-mysqli package via synaptic?
[09:59] <HappyFool> odat: checked https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?
[10:01] <odat> HappyFool, I have all the proper codecs and plugins installed i just can view embedded streaming formats like wmv
[10:01] <mojo> Syirrus: on line 66 your file says "ati".  Change that to "fglrx" like my file's line 87.  Mine is at http://pastebin.com/458145 again.  ALSO, you want to add in what I have on MY lines 89-90 (backingstore set to true), 114-115 (video overlay on), and probably 122-125 for the AGP arperature.  Put them in YOUR file after line 66 and before line 67.
[10:03] <mojo> Syirrus: to do this, go to a command prompt and "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf.orig" to make a backup and then "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to make the changes I outlined.  Open both your pastebin AND min in seperate tabs in firefox so you can compare them and see where to make the edits (using gedit window).  Save in gedit then restart your x server
[10:04] <mojo> Syirrus: to do this, go to a command prompt and "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf.orig" to make a backup and then "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to make the changes I outlined.  Open both your pastebin AND min in seperate tabs in firefox so you can compare them and see where to make the edits (using gedit window).  Save in gedit then restart your x server
[10:04] <Tymid> mojo: sorry I think the ndiswrapper is making things unstable
[10:04] <mojo> Syirrus: did you get all that?  looks like you bounced
[10:04] <mojo> Tymid: ???
[10:05] <Tymid> Mojo: Syirrus = Tymid
[10:05] <mojo> Tymid: okay.  Here are the instructions again...
[10:05] <mojo> Tymid: on line 66 your file says "ati".  Change that to "fglrx" like my file's line 87.  Mine is at http://pastebin.com/458145 again.  ALSO, you want to add in what I have on MY lines 89-90 (backingstore set to true), 114-115 (video overlay on), and probably 122-125 for the AGP arperature.  Put them in YOUR file after line 66 and before line 67.
[10:05] <northie> Been fighting to get audio for a good long while now. Does anyone have time to lend a hand?
[10:05] <mojo> Tymid:  to do this, go to a command prompt and "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf.orig" to make a backup and then "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to make the changes I outlined.  Open both your pastebin AND min in seperate tabs in firefox so you can compare them and see where to make the edits (using gedit window).  Save in gedit then restart your x server
[10:06] <zevin> how do install a .deb file if it always says i need superuser privlige to do so?
[10:06] <mojo> Tymid: the URLs are...  MINE: http://pastebin.com/458145   YOURS: http://pastebin.com/458150
[10:07] <meepy> sudo
[10:09] <Madpilot> zevin: "sudo dpkg -i <foo.deb>"
[10:09] <Madpilot> zevin: use your own user pw when Ubuntu asks
[10:10] <Tymid> mojo: still working
[10:10] <mojo> Tymid: gotcha..  I'll go look up that dvd de-CSS stuff for you.  It's available at videolan site methingks
[10:10] <lips> hi all i'm looking for free (as in freedom, ubuntu debian guidelines compatible) fonts for use in free content project. could you help me?
[10:11] <Madpilot> lips: some nice stuff is included with Ubuntu
[10:11] <MrBlunts> nice stuff indeed, if not you always got google... its a friens
[10:11] <Tymid> mojo: where should I ass lines 89-90 at in my conf?
[10:11] <MrBlunts> d
[10:11] <lips> Madpilot i need them in a form i can send to designer wjich uses windows and macosx...
[10:11] <zevin> doesn'tyeah, still doesn't work. skype needs some lib that i can't find now. just great
[10:12] <northie> Does using alsamixer make sense if you've got sound set to ESD?
[10:13] <Madpilot> lips: Ubuntu uses exactly the same font formats as Windows & OSX - TTF, OpenType, etc
[10:13] <MrBlunts> most ttf's will work fine with ubuntu
[10:14] <zevin> anyone have a link to any help i could find for making an ATI card work besides the ubuntu starter guide?
[10:15] <Madpilot> zevin: seen this one? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:15] <mojo> Tymid: don't ass the lines, lol.  ;)  Okay, all the options i mentioned from MY file get added to yours just after line 66 (where your driver says "ati" and you changed it to say "fglrx").  The next lines in your original file (67-68) ends that section.  SO put them all after 66 and before 67.  There was a coupole for backingstore option enabled, some for video overlay enable, and something else for the agp arpeture.  These are options
[10:15] <hmpedersen> Morning people
[10:15] <mojo>  for the video card driver so the need to be IN that section.  Cool?
[10:15] <hmpedersen> Can ne1 tell me how to edit url handlers?
[10:15] <hmpedersen> please
[10:16] <Tymid> mojo: I got it heehheeheh
[10:16] <mojo> Tymid: if you think you got it then re-pastebin it and i'll look to double check
[10:16] <Tymid> okay
[10:16] <MrBlunts> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[10:16] <mojo> Tymid: or if you're sure then we can go on to how to restart xwindows
[10:17] <Tymid> mojo: http://pastebin.com/458162
[10:17] <mojo> cool
[10:17] <zevin> madpilot: yeah, did that, device manager still just sees unknown hardware. So, i think its not work, but i don't really know. can't get any games to work so i doesn't really make any difference i guess
[10:17] <Tymid> mojo: ctrl + Alt + Backspace restarts xwindows right?
[10:17] <Stork> how can i make a link to azureus in the applications menu?
[10:18] <MrBlunts> u see this zevin? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[10:18] <Stork> how can i make a link to azureus in the applications menu? there's a shell script to launch azureus in /home/alex/azureus/azureus
[10:18] <melonipoika> Stork, applications, system tools, applications menu editor
[10:19] <Stork> awesome, thankms
[10:19] <mojo> Tymid: Yeah but wait.   You know how to switch virtual terminals, right?  Press ctrl-alt-F1 thru F6 gives you text-login screens.  ctrl-alt-F7 brings you back to the VT that XWindows is running on (and your graphic logins).  Test this so you got it.
[10:20] <zevin> mrblunts: thanks man, but i just don't have that kind of patience anymore. when trying to do basic stuff like play wmvs and mpgs requires reading the wiki, it kind of drains you of your will to learn linux.
[10:20] <zevin> thanks for all the help guys. night.
[10:20] <Tymid> okay
[10:21] <MrBlunts> another one lost to the complications of linux, damn, i dont find it that complicated
[10:22] <Stork> melonipoika, i tried adding a shell script to the menu and it didn't work
[10:22] <Stork> the shell script is the one that launches azureus
[10:22] <anatole> is it okay to install the nvidia driver from nvidia.com? or is there a better way?
[10:22] <lips> madpilot i use ubuntu roght now, but dont know where i can find fonts in a form i can send by email?
[10:22] <mojo> Tymid: If you get stuck where X won't re-start, then you have to switch to another virtual terminal (ctrl-alt-F1 for example), then text-login to your computer on that terminal.  You can then do these two commands to recover:  "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bad" to rename the bad one, then "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to move the original (working on ati driver) one back in place.  THEN you can r
[10:22] <mojo> estart X from there with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" I believe.
[10:23] <mojo> dangit, where'd timid go?
[10:23] <MrBlunts> got reset lol
[10:23] <Madpilot> lips: search for .ttf files, you can send those. I can't remember offhand where Ubuntu stores it's preinstalled fonts
[10:23] <Stork> hi, i'm having problems with LAME, i don't know how to compile it, can anyone help?
[10:24] <gnask> Ok, im very new to Ubuntu. Quick question quick answer plz :) how do i become root so i can change who gets permissions to my hdds?
[10:24] <gnask> sudo "appname" ?
[10:24] <Madpilot> !sudo
[10:24] <gnask> k
[10:24] <gnask> !sudo
[10:24] <MrBlunts> wow, i had no idea this room was this active with questions
[10:24] <gnask> got it.
[10:24] <straider> yes iam}
[10:24] <Madpilot> gnask: just sudo, no !
[10:25] <mojo> MrBlunts: yeah, it's a happenen spot huh?
[10:25] <gnask> ok :]  thnx guys.
[10:25] <Syirrus> mojo: I'm in but my res is like 1024x768
[10:25] <Syirrus> mojo: there is no option for 1680x1050
[10:25] <mojo> Syirrus: Okay we can address that next if you like.  SO:  You are up and running with the edited file.
[10:25] <Syirrus> yes
[10:26] <MrBlunts> i only wish i knew the answers, its my first trip with a debian based but i have decent experience with centos based red hat
[10:26] <mojo> Syirrus: And the command "fglrxinfo" says your OpenGL string is the fglrx drivers, right?
[10:26] <gnask> Oh, another question.. I`d like to use my nvidiabased graphicscard and use my TV-Out.. i cant find any options to setup, if i wanted to clone or use dual screen and such.. anyone?
[10:26] <mojo> tlepes@alembic:/windata $ fglrxinfo
[10:26] <mojo> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[10:26] <mojo> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[10:26] <mojo> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9800 Pro Generic
[10:26] <mojo> OpenGL version string: 1.3.5272 (X4.3.0-8.16.20)
[10:26] <Syirrus> mojo: display: :0.0  screen: 0
[10:26] <Syirrus> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[10:26] <Syirrus> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:26] <Syirrus> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[10:27] <dpupp> help! im stuck at a distorted bluescreen saying something about my graphical interface not being set up correctly... i tried removing hotplug to reinstall it, but then things went bad and i rebooted... now the machine wont go into gnome.
[10:27] <Shinjan> hi folks
[10:27] <bigfoot1> help: when I right-click on a file in Nautilus, most options (rename, move to trash, etc) are greyed out . what's wrong?
[10:27] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: are you in a directory owned by root?
[10:27] <hmpedersen> Can ne1 tell me how to edit url handlers, please?
[10:27] <mojo> Syirrus: Okay, we are not there yet then.  You are not running the fglrx for OpenGL
[10:28] <Syirrus> ahh
[10:28] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: i don' think so. i'm in my home directory
[10:28] <mojo> Syirrus: do "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep fglrx" and see if it gives you output
[10:28] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: choose Properties after right-clicking - who's listed as the owner of the file/
[10:28] <dpupp> what i want to do is backup documents to a folder and reinstall ubuntu at this point.  but i dont know how to mount an external device so i can do this. i have 3gb of data, (anime in progress of being subtitled) that i need to backup... can someone guide me?
[10:29] <ploum> hello. Can anybody confirms that glabels is crashing when trying to insert an image
[10:29] <ploum> ?
[10:29] <Madpilot> bigfoot1: choose the Permissions tab of the Properties window
[10:29] <Syirrus> mojo do you want me to put it in pastebin?
[10:29] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: even "properties" is greyed out!
[10:29] <Madpilot> ploum: known bug in the Breezy version of glabels :(
[10:29] <ploum> Madpilot, could you provide me the bug number ?
[10:29] <ploum> And a workaround ?
[10:30] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: only "open with" "send to" and "creat archive" are not greyed out.
[10:30] <ploum> (I didn't found it on launchpad or bugzilla)
[10:30] <Storkme> hi, i'm having problems with LAME, i don't know how to compile it, can anyone help?
[10:30] <mojo> Syirrus: if you like, sur
[10:30] <bigfoot1> Madpilot: i restarted nautilus. things are fine now. thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:31] <Madpilot> ploum: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/glabels/+bug/1929
[10:31] <dpupp> is the live cd a differnt disk than the install?
[10:31] <Syirrus> mojo: http://pastebin.com/458166
[10:31] <Madpilot> dpupp: yes
[10:32] <ploum> Madpilot, thanks :-)
[10:32] <Storkme> hi, i'm having problems with LAME, i don't know how to compile it, can anyone help?
[10:33] <thoreauputic_> !info lame
[10:33] <Madpilot> thoreauputic_: we're botless again...
[10:33] <thoreauputic_> aargh
[10:33] <thoreauputic_> :(
[10:33] <dpupp> can i read data from linux in windows\/? i really need to backup a folder that is in linux but i dont know how
[10:34] <thoreauputic_> Storkme: lame is in yhe multiverse repository
[10:34] <thoreauputic_> *the
[10:34] <Kaiser_Away> dpupp: use ext2 explorer
[10:34] <melonipoika> dpupp, look in google for "mount ext3 partition windows"
[10:34] <dpupp> thanks
[10:35] <Syirrus> mojo: any ideas?
[10:35] <Syirrus> mojo: should i restore my original xorg.conf?
[10:35] <mojo> Syirrus: cool, loading it in ffox.  Um, I am looking at your xorg.conf file and mine.  I am thinking maybe some more options from mine (http://pastebin.com/458145) might help.  Line 44 in mine is not in your "Module" section.  Lines 92-94 may have to do with the resolution problem.  May.  Lines 96-100 may be important, perhaps you should add them to your "Device" section for the graphics card.  I am not so sure you should copy my lines
[10:35] <mojo>   101-111 because the may be specific to mine, but you can test.
[10:35] <dpupp> sigh.. first time reinstalling ubuntu.  sure did take a long time forme to break it. ;)
[10:36] <Hoxzer> somebody here has setup nxclient?
[10:36] <thoreauputic> Hoxzer: only the no MAchine version
[10:36] <Hoxzer> but you can connect to the nxserver with it?
[10:36] <Syirrus> ok
[10:36] <thoreauputic> Hoxzer: sure
[10:37] <mojo> Syirrus: In my file I also had you copy lines 114-115 for enabling video overlay.  You may also need to copy over lines 117-120.  The Misc Options at 127-129 probably won't hurt to copy over too.
[10:37] <thoreauputic> Hoxzer: have you set up ssh on your machine?
[10:37] <Hoxzer> Yes
[10:37] <thoreauputic> Hoxzer: what problem are you having ?
[10:37] <Hoxzer> but I like to have an remote desktop to my box
[10:38] <mojo> Syirrus: Also, I have that "Screen 0" at line 135 and I am not sure if that is needed or not for you, since you're not running 2 monitors.
[10:38] <Syirrus> hmmm
[10:39] <mojo> Syirrus: hmmm indeed.  Notice how my second monitor's video card setup is configured in lines 138-143 of my file?  Sure is pretty sparse but it works.  Of course I don't think I've ever tried a video overlay on that screen, either...
[10:39] <frans> excuse me, are there somebody want to help me to installation ubuntu?
[10:40] <frans> i'm sorry my english is not good
[10:40] <thoreauputic> frans: what problems are you having?
[10:40] <Hoxzer> thoreauputic: when I have installed nxclient I cannot start it with command "nxclient"
[10:41] <Syirrus> mojo: I made the changes
[10:41] <Syirrus> mojo: If we can't get it working no worries at all
[10:41] <thoreauputic> Hoxzer: it installs somewhere odd like /usr/NX/ (not in your $PATH)
[10:41] <frans> my installation can't till the desktop. there is some fail about resolution
[10:41] <Syirrus> mojo: I have learned a lot if anything
[10:42] <thoreauputic> Hoxzer: you might need a symlink if you want it in your PATH
[10:42] <dpupp> kaiser_away and melonipoika! thanks! i was able to backup my data using ext2explorer to read my partitions in windows.
[10:42] <Hoxzer> Thore: fount at /user/NX
[10:42] <thoreauputic> Hoxzer: right :)
[10:42] <Syirrus> mojo: the resolution I have not a clue on
[10:42] <Syirrus> mojo: should I restart X windows?
[10:42] <mojo> Syirrus: for the DVD CSS descrabmle, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-cd84b8e23927ccdb4bb55ffd3074687abec0cf3b
[10:42] <thoreauputic> Hoxzer: /usr/NX/bin/ from memory
[10:43] <Hoxzer> im in
[10:43] <Syirrus> ok
[10:43] <mojo> Syirrus: sure.  Log out back to the graphic login screen, then do CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE.
[10:43] <Hoxzer> oh god damn I got it running
[10:43] <thoreauputic> Hoxzer: heh :)
[10:43] <Hoxzer> nx setup
[10:43] <mojo> Hoxzer: NX is awesome.
[10:43] <Hoxzer> we'll see
[10:43] <frans> i'm from indonesia, so i'm really-really sorry my english is not good. there's some fail about resolution when i install ubuntu. it never till desktop
[10:44] <MrBlowtatoes> um, what does this error mean?:
[10:44] <mojo> Hoxzer: it is useable to support my friend who is a linux noob on dialup
[10:44] <Syirrus> ok
[10:44] <MrBlowtatoes> U     /     KKLLF ] ] DD``,,ffbb8,ative_blitbuffer: select error occured
[10:44] <MrBlowtatoes> ?
[10:44] <MrBlowtatoes> theres about 290 lines or garbage
[10:45] <Kaiser_Away> dpupp: good to hear. re data
[10:47] <hmpedersen> Can some1 help me, please?
[10:47] <thoreauputic> frans: you can try running   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   to fix your problem, I think
[10:48] <thoreauputic> hmpedersen: that depends - what is the trouble?
[10:50] <hmpedersen> thoreauputic: Im attempting to find a way to edit url handlers..
[10:50] <hmpedersen> thoreauputic: Been looking around on newsgroups for a while, but no help there..
[10:50] <thoreauputic> hmpedersen: you mean choosing which browser to use as default?
[10:50] <thoreauputic> or what?
[10:51] <hmpedersen> no.. which browser to handle a specific url
[10:51] <hmpedersen> like adding a handler for ed2k://
[10:52] <thoreauputic> ah - I don't even know what ed2k:// means  ;)
[10:52] <hmpedersen> edonkey (emule, amule)
[10:53] <Stork> how can i make it so that i can use all the java commands on the command line without having to switch to /home/alex/jre/ ?
[10:53] <thoreauputic> ah OK - sorry I don't know about P2P etc
[10:54] <hmpedersen> I know.. However its a url handler i need to edit, to allow amule to take ed2k:// links
[10:54] <hmpedersen> amule forums are not much help.. basically "If it doesnt work, then don't ask for help"
[10:54] <mojo> hmm..  quiet
[10:55] <Nexinarus> anyone know how to install glfw?
[10:55] <hmpedersen> I'm not asking anything against the rules, right?
[10:56] <mojo> hmpedersen: i don't think so.
[10:56] <thoreauputic> hmpedersen: no - P2P can be used for good or bad ;)
[10:56] <thoreauputic> hmpedersen: I assume no one currently knows how to help you
[10:56] <hmpedersen> Yeah.. I use it basically to distribute the small films i make :)
[10:56] <mojo> thoreauputic: yep, just like, well, forks, for instance!
[10:57] <mojo> hmpedersen: I used mldonkey, but I hear it is buggy and disliked by the networks.
[10:57] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[10:57] <hmpedersen> It would be nice to figure out someday :)
[10:58] <mojo> hmpedersen: so I have been on the lookout for another 'multi' net client to try myself.  My roomie likes LimeWire.  I think there's a Linux version.  I am not sure what net it runs, though.
[10:58] <hmpedersen> mojo: mldonkey is commonly seen as a leech client, it has alot of features to cheat system to think you're sharing..
[10:59] <mojo> (roomie is on Win2K)
[10:59] <mojo> hmpedersen: oh, i see.  well, i do share though.  i even leave my torrents up past 1:1 !
[10:59] <hmpedersen> mojo, you should give amule a go.. Once i find out how to make it take ed2k links, ill make a post on forums about it..
[11:00] <mojo> hmpedersen: seriously, i do share back.  but most my stuff is all free anyway (grateful dead shows and such)
[11:00] <hmpedersen> you can install it trough easybreezy..
[11:00] <mojo> hmpedersen: cool, i will look for it
[11:00] <mojo> hmpedersen: what is easybreezy?  besides catchy?
[11:00] <hmpedersen> sec..
[11:01] <hmpedersen> http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Safe_and_Easy_Ubuntu_
[11:02] <Whistler> where al my network settings are saved?
[11:02] <Whistler> *all
[11:02] <mojo> txx
[11:02] <thoreauputic> Whistler: probably /etc/network/interfaces
[11:02] <hmpedersen> Oh btw everybody.. I got my wlan card with -no- linux compatibility to work..
[11:02] <thoreauputic> Whistler: if I understood you correctly...
[11:03] <Whistler> yeah thx
[11:03] <hmpedersen> The "Windows Wireless Drivers" in menu was no good.. only would work as long as driver cd was plugged in..
[11:03] <Decadent> Yesterday I installed windows xp and now I cant fix the grub to boot with linux how can i fix the grub??
[11:04] <sss_lr> Decadent : use ubuntu CD
[11:04] <frans> i'm from indonesia, i'm really-really sorry if my english not good. i need some help, i have a problem when install ubuntu.
[11:05] <Decadent> i tryed that but first is asking me to say which partitions i want to use and im afraid that im going to erase something
[11:05] <Decadent> :s
[11:05] <sss_lr> Decadent : proceed as you do for installation but after mounting do not write changes to disk
[11:05] <hmpedersen> Its interesting with my usb dvd writer.. It mounts discs perfectly.. Except for the one i need to copy files from now.. Only mounts every 5th reboot ...
[11:05] <frans> there is some fail in my resoulution
[11:05] <HappyFool> hrm. no ubotu!
[11:05] <mojo> hmpedersen: thanks 4 the link
[11:05] <frans> so i can't till the desktop
[11:05] <hmpedersen> mojo: np
[11:05] <Decadent> sss_lr how can i do that?? (not to write changes to disk??)
[11:05] <sss_lr> Decadent, then reinstall grub and reboot you will have your grunb fixed
[11:06] <HappyFool> Decadent: look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:06] <thoreauputic> frans did you try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   as I suggested before ?
[11:06] <Decadent> ok
[11:06] <frans> no
[11:06] <sss_lr> HappyFool: thx i was about to give link to him
[11:06] <frans> not yet
[11:06] <thoreauputic> frans: well then, try it
[11:06] <aleksi> how to change from kdm backto gdm?
[11:07] <frans> i'm linux beginner
[11:07] <hmpedersen> Oh yeah that right.. If any of you use a laptop, dont play music/video while plugging/unplugging the powercable.. Pause it while u do that..
[11:07] <HappyFool> aleksi: i think it's 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm' (assuming gdm is still installed)
[11:07] <thoreauputic> frans:  just type what I said, and answer the questions
[11:08] <frans> ok thoreauputic. thanx very much
[11:10] <j813> Hello, anybody know why MPlayer, Xine was removed from Add Applications? Thanks
[11:10] <thoreauputic> j813: were they ever there?
[11:11] <mojo> time for me to catch those zzz's...  gnite all
[11:11] <Nikusan> probably to encourage use of totem/rythmbox?
[11:11] <thoreauputic> j813: mplayer is in multiverse and xine I think is in universe
[11:12] <j813> ah ok
[11:13] <rob1> no nt loaders here
[11:13] <hmpedersen> i use xmms for mp3.. Only way i can add all my music to a playlist just by draggin the folder into it..
[11:16] <hmpedersen> I think im gonna log again.. May the penguin be with you all..
[11:16] <pirx> can i somehow setup my system so that one suondcard uses alsa, and one uses oss?
[11:20] <oskude> ask ubotu about midi
[11:20] <oskude> !midi
[11:21] <Madpilot> oskude: no bot right now
[11:21] <oskude> ah ok, thnx
[11:21] <thoreauputic> oskude: ubotu isn't here, sadly
[11:21] <oskude> anyone got experience with midi through gameport ?
[11:21] <wisnu> i need some help about ubuntu installation
[11:21] <Madpilot> need sleep - later, all
[11:22] <wisnu> i need some help about ubuntu installation
[11:22] <wisnu> there is somebody help me
[11:23] <oskude> wisnu, just tell us your problem, and hopefully someone knows the solution...
[11:23] <thoreauputic> oskude: don't know if this will help --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[11:24] <wisnu> what should i type to till the desktop after this "username@ubuntu : $"
[11:25] <irvin> wisnu: you lost me?
[11:25] <thoreauputic> wisnu: are you in a black screen with white letters? If so, try typing  startx
[11:25] <wisnu> i've tried, but it can't?
[11:25] <thoreauputic> wisnu: if that doesn't work, you need to reconfigure X (assuming this isn't a "server" install )
[11:26] <thoreauputic> wisnu: you need to tell us the error message then
[11:27] <wisnu> but before, there is some problem when installation. there's fail resolution.
[11:27] <sangriag> Hi, my friend have a old powerpc (could be with macos8.x) with some data, but it simply does not boot and ask for the boot disk. I don't know (I am not a mac user) where can I download a boot disk? However I downloaded ubuntu 5.10, and burnt the ISO image and popped in the CD but it does not boot ubuntu. Any idea?
[11:27] <wisnu> maybe i need install vga driver
[11:28] <thoreauputic> wisnu: try the vesa driver
[11:28] <wisnu> but i don't know how to install vga driver
[11:28] <thoreauputic> wisnu: you can specify the vesa driver using   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:28] <hmpedersen> Oh i forgot to ask something..
[11:28] <thoreauputic> wisnu: choose it from the driver list in that utility
[11:29] <hmpedersen> Is there a way to have ubuntu load a random wallpaper when i boot?
[11:29] <thoreauputic> hmpedersen: probably with a script ( ~/.gnomerc )
[11:29] <sangriag> btw, I downloaded the ubuntu 5.10 livecd iso. Any help appreciated.
[11:30] <thoreauputic> hmpedersen: but I don't know exactly how
[11:30] <hmpedersen> hmm..Oh well.. Ill figure it out..
[11:30] <wisnu> you mean i should type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg after this "username@ubuntu : $"
[11:30] <thoreauputic> wisnu: yes - it will ask for ypour password, and then ask you questions
[11:31] <thoreauputic> wisnu: mostly accept the default answers, but try choosing the vesa driver
[11:32] <wisnu> after i type it, there is option vesa driver. so, i must choose vesa driver
[11:32] <thoreauputic> wisnu: yes
[11:32] <HappyFool> sangriag: at the risk of stating the obvious, you do need the powerpc live cd -- there's a live cd for x86, ppc and amd64, as far as i know
[11:32] <thoreauputic> wisnu: that normally will at least work to give you a graphical screen
[11:33] <wisnu> what about vga driver, should i input into the cdrom?
[11:33] <Stork> installing java is a pain
[11:33] <thoreauputic> wisnu: CD ROM ? Is this a live CD you are using?
[11:33] <Stork> i followed the instructions on the ubuntu guide
[11:34] <hmpedersen> stork, easybreezy is your friend :)
[11:34] <Stork> but when i do java --version it still displays the old version
[11:34] <wisnu> no, it is installation cd.
[11:34] <wisnu> no try cd.
[11:34] <thoreauputic> Stork:  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:35] <thoreauputic> wisnu: just choose the vesa driver, and use the simple options
[11:35] <sangriag> HappyFool: I downloaded ppc liveCD iso. But don't know how to get into the bios (I used to use apple back in 1984)
[11:35] <Stork> thoreauputic, the sun java doesn't come up
[11:35] <thoreauputic> Stork: then it isn't installed properly
[11:36] <hmpedersen> what does the + mean? * is default.. bu what is +?
[11:36] <HappyFool> sangriag: sorry, i've never even seen an apple
[11:36] <wisnu> are you sure the vesa driver compatible with my computer
[11:36] <thoreauputic> wisnu: just try it - if it doesn't work, re-run the command
[11:37] <thoreauputic> wisnu: vesa will work on just about anything
[11:37] <ntldr> Hi all
[11:37] <sangriag> HappyFool: My friend has a mac but old one with some data I need to back up. I need some help to get the livecd gets booted on the computer.
[11:37] <oskude_> omg. had an electric shortage :(
[11:38] <ntldr> what package(s) do I need to make ubuntu a firewall/router/proxy with traffic shaping support?
[11:39] <thoreauputic> sangriag: to boot a CD on mac, you usually hold down the "C" key when booting
[11:39] <wisnu> thoreauputic, thanx for your help. i hope, it really succes. by the way, thanx for ubuntu, my request just arrive tomorrow. once again, thanx u very much
[11:40] <HappyFool> thoreauputic: i thought macs were supposed to be easy to use :P
[11:40] <thoreauputic> wisnu: when you've run the command I gave you, try startx again
[11:40] <hmpedersen> HappyFool: They are..
[11:40] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: heh - well I use mine with Ubuntu, so mine is easy to use ;-)
[11:40] <hmpedersen> HappyFool: And extremely powerful when workin with media (sound/video/newspaper)
[11:41] <dpupp> got a problem here.... im installing linux, but i dont want to wipe out windows... and i dont know which drive has windows. im at the partition window rigt now... how can i tell which is which without restarting the process?
[11:41] <thoreauputic> dpupp: if you have windows on your C drive it is proably /dev/hda1
[11:42] <HappyFool> doesn't the partitioner in the installer tell you what sort of partitions already exist?
[11:42] <hmpedersen> Yeah it should..
[11:42] <dpupp> i see 7 options here...
[11:42] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: I thought so, yes - it should show up as windows IIRC
[11:43] <HappyFool> i guess that doesn't help if you have many windows partitions
[11:43] <dpupp> wow might be better if i find out which drive windows is on first.\
[11:44] <thoreauputic> dpupp: how many windows partitions do you have?
[11:44] <dpupp> i only have 1... but i have multiple drives.
[11:44] <HappyFool> i'd use windows disk manager to free up some space; then let ubuntu use the 'unused space'
[11:44] <dpupp> i have 3 drives. only 1 has windows
[11:44] <hmpedersen> Back in the days when i had windows and linux, i allways deleted the partitions i didnt use before installing linux.. Made it much easier..
[11:44] <dpupp> i want ubuntu to take over 1 whole disk drive... but i forgot which has windows hehe
[11:45] <hmpedersen> dpupp, most likely hda has windows..
[11:45] <thoreauputic> dpupp: normally windows is on the first master - hda as hmpedersen says
[11:45] <dpupp> might be... thats mylargest drive...
[11:45] <dpupp> ok. brb
[11:47] <dpupp> is it safe or resonable to partition a drive and give 10gb to ubuntu and 70 as fat32 for user file storage? or is there a down fall to that?
[11:47] <dpupp> im wanting to keep my files safe incase i mess up ubuntu again, i dont have to freak out backing things up
[11:47] <rob1> sure, sounds ok to me
[11:48] <dpupp> im thinking this way, i can read the partition from both windows and linux...
[11:48] <rob1> I did it that way when I first started using linux
[11:49] <rob1> both can read/write fat32
[11:49] <dpupp> any pros\cons about each type?
[11:49] <HappyFool> dpupp: having a shared area is useful, but i'd make sure the 'standard' linux paths are on a linux filesystem
[11:50] <dpupp> ok my 60gb drive is windows... so my 80gb will be linux.
[11:51] <dpupp> by standard? can you give me a quick explination why?
[11:53] <sangriag> thoreauputic: I tried with holding the C as well as ctrl and a combination of ctrl+apple+shift+del but none booted to bios or something different. It just lands at a computer logo and later asks for a boot floppy (which I don't have)
[11:53] <dpupp> omg. now i have to setup surround, dualmonitors...and all that stuff again. serves me right. i should have taken proper notes how to do it.
[11:54] <HappyFool> dpupp: well, i guess any of the directories in /
[11:54] <HappyFool> dpupp: like /etc/, /bin, /sbin and so on
[11:54] <sangriag> thoreauputic: what could be the problem. My friend stored all contact data in a program called filemaker pro in that old computer which does not go futher than the state I stated earlier. Any help solicited
[11:54] <HappyFool> dpupp: the reason is that FAT doesn't support linux permissions
[11:55] <dpupp> ahh! big issue then.
[11:55] <dpupp> i see.
[11:55] <HappyFool> just put it at /media/share or similar
[11:56] <ntldr> Sorry for repeating, but no one answered: what package(s) do I need to make ubuntu a firewall/router/proxy with traffic shaping support?
[11:56] <ntldr> I am very new to *nix world
[11:57] <sangriag> ntldr: if you are usig kde, guarddog is a good firewall. The best is to use iptables
[11:57] <ntldr> and for traffic shaping?
[11:58] <HappyFool> ntldr: firestarter is a gnome firewall configurer. i did a quick search for 'traffic shaping' and came up with 'shaper' and 'wondershaper'
[11:58] <HappyFool> there are various proxies (dns, http) in the repos too
[11:59] <ntldr> typical proxy is squid, right?
[11:59] <HappyFool> i believe so
[11:59] <ntldr> http proxy
[11:59] <ntldr> i heard about HTB for traffic shaping
[12:00] <dpupp> ok installing linux take 2...action :)
[12:00] <ntldr> but i don't know if it can be istalled on ubuntu
[12:00] <HappyFool> ntldr: no hits on htb in my package list
[12:00] <sangriag> and for GNOME. there is one called, http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyrewall
[12:00] <ntldr> looking
[12:00] <jcaine> hi all - I was wondering if anyone knows how to reduce the bass sounds in ubuntu? (I'm using totem/xine for media playback)
[12:01] <dpupp> bbl
[12:01] <deity> ?
[12:01] <HappyFool> jcaine: try maybe alsamixer (run in the terminal)
[12:02] <ntldr> sangriag, I am trying to make it a router/firewall for a small company
[12:02] <lewix> jcaine: how did you make totem to play divx and all that
[12:02] <deity>
[12:02] <sangriag> ntldr: http://sourceforge.net/projects/vtun for traffic shaping
[12:03] <ntldr> thanks
[12:03] <HappyFool> deity: english is best
[12:03] <jcaine> HappyFool - I've tried that but it only allows me to control volume output levels rather than equalize various bandwidths :(
[12:03] <deity>
[12:03] <sangriag> ntldr: it depends on your network structure.
[12:03] <deity>
[12:04] <jcaine> lewix, I just followed the how-to by clicking on the help icon in ubuntu
[12:04] <sangriag> btw anyone who knows how to get into the ppc bios? pressing C and other optios does not help
[12:04] <ntldr> sangriag, it's a basic green+red config. It should support like 40 PCs
[12:04] <mjr_> deity, this is an english-speaking channel
[12:04] <ntldr> I just don't know which packages to install for that
[12:05] <lewix> jcaine k thanks
[12:06] <HappyFool> ntldr: try firestarter -- should let you get a basic firewall/router going
[12:07] <HappyFool> jcaine: mplayer has an equalizer
[12:08] <ntldr> i will
[12:08] <dpupp-afk> ubuntu is updated every 6mo right? whe is the next update?
[12:09] <HappyFool> dpupp-afk: april 2006
[12:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> 4th month 06
[12:09] <dpupp-afk> thx
[12:09] <windowmaker> can somebody please help me get my nvidia drivers working, i'm trying to install the version 7174 drivers but i keep on getting this error: http://pastebin.com/458226
[12:09] <defiance> Hm, good morning everyone.
[12:10] <windowmaker> defiance: i live in australia, it's 10pm here
[12:10] <dpupp-afk> norning? omg its morning already
[12:10] <jcaine> <-- Hong Kong here :)
[12:10] <defiance> lmao
[12:10] <defiance> It's midday here, and I consider that morning.
[12:10] <jcaine> 7pm over here
[12:10] <defiance> So timezones doesn't really matter P:
[12:10] <defiance> :P
[12:10] <dpupp-afk> 6am.
[12:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> window 9.40 here ;)
[12:10] <windowmaker> am or pm?
[12:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> pm :)
[12:11] <windowmaker> cool
[12:11] <taga123> philpinews  7:15 pm here
[12:11] <windowmaker> just 20m behind me
[12:11] <taga123> philippines
[12:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh. *wondesr how 20 min is possible*
[12:11] <hmpedersen> 12:11 pm
[12:11] <windowmaker> er, is anybody willing to help me with my nvidia dirvers problem
[12:11] <defiance> Heh, yeah, 20 minutes is kinda odd
[12:11] <windowmaker> i keep on getting this error message http://pastebin.com/458226
[12:11] <defiance> windowmaker, what's the prob?
[12:11] <windowmaker> defiance: it says this: http://pastebin.com/458226
[12:11] <SWAT> I just installed apache 2 and phppgadmin. Now I want to use phppgadmin over the web. How can I access it? localhost/phppgadmin doesn't work
[12:11] <sangriag> ntldr: then go for firestarter at sf.net
[12:12] <defiance> windowmaker, hmm, have you installed linux-restricted-modules ?
[12:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> windowmaker: what's the problem?
[12:12] <windowmaker> defiance, i'll check
[12:12] <HappyFool> sangriag: it's in the repos -- no need to install from source
[12:12] <defiance> visi, O_o
[12:12] <sangriag> when I used firestarter some two years back, it gave me some problem with RH and I gave it up
[12:12] <windowmaker> defiance: no i haven't
[12:13] <sangriag> HappyFool: what is in the repos?
[12:13] <defiance> windowmaker, then apt-get that :-)
[12:13] <windowmaker> Kamping_Kaiser: this is the problem: http://pastebin.com/458226
[12:13] <HappyFool> firestarter
[12:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> windowmaker: sorry, was lagging (just did a dist-upgrade)
[12:13] <sangriag> HappyFool: I am having problem with the getting into the bios of an old mac
[12:14] <HappyFool> sangriag: sorry, i was referring to what you said to ntldr. I am mac-clueless
[12:14] <hmpedersen> Does anybody have a scumvm deb install file? :D
[12:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> windowmaker: check your compiler
[12:14] <hmpedersen> scummvm*
[12:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> if your using gcc4 it wont like you making kernel modules
[12:14] <HappyFool> hmpedersen: it's in the repos
[12:14] <defiance> windowmaker, nvidia.ko is included in that package.
[12:15] <defiance> Or should be, anyhow.
[12:15] <HappyFool> hmpedersen: if you've enabled universe, just use synaptic or apt-get or whatever to install it
[12:15] <windowmaker> Kamping_Kaiser: the guide i was following told me to do "cc=gcc-3.4" and then "export CC"
[12:15] <hmpedersen> nm.. i found it
[12:15] <HappyFool> windowmaker: CC=gcc-3.4   -- case is significant
[12:15] <defiance> windowmaker, wait, how did you install the nvidia-drivers?
[12:15] <windowmaker> defiance: okay, what do i do now? jsut test it with glxgears or what?
[12:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> windowmaker: then that should be ok.
[12:15] <windowmaker> defiance: with the 7147 ones from the nvidia website
[12:16] <windowmaker> HappyFool: oh, thanks! =D
[12:16] <labanux> hi everyone..
[12:16] <defiance> windowmaker, hm, try installing the ones apt-get provides instead
[12:16] <defiance> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx (i think)
[12:16] <windowmaker> defiance: er, no!.... my card is too old for them
[12:16] <defiance> windowmaker, ooooh, okay
[12:17] <windowmaker> defiance: and too new for the legacy ones =(
[12:17] <labanux> is there any debian based distribution with KDE?
[12:17] <windowmaker> labanux: MEPIS and kubuntu
[12:17] <defiance> windowmaker, well, hrm.. do a search for nvidia.ko
[12:17] <windowmaker> defiance: in apt?
[12:17] <labanux> i want to try MEPIS.., but it seems it isn't free..
[12:17] <defiance> and make sure it's compiled for the kernel that you're running
[12:17] <defiance> windowmaker, no, on your harddrive
[12:17] <windowmaker> k
[12:18] <windowmaker> defiance: eguh, i ahve to updatedb
[12:18] <labanux> is Mepis free? i can't find any link to download on it's website..
[12:18] <windowmaker> labanux: yes, it's free, keep on looking
[12:18] <defiance> lmao
[12:18] <labanux> windowmaker : hpw about Xandros? is it free too?
[12:19] <windowmaker> windowmaker: never tried xandros, but i have a cheapskate friend who used it... so it must be free, but apparently xandros is a tad slow
[12:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> windowmaker: there is a free and non free
[12:19] <windowmaker> labanux: if you like ubuntu, but want KDE, either get kubuntu, or install KDE from apt
[12:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> and everynow and then they releaste the nonfree as free
[12:19] <windowmaker> defiance: root@ubuntu:/home/windowmaker# locate nvidia.ko
[12:19] <windowmaker> /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko
[12:20] <meepy> Once every port is closed the system is secure? While also running firestarter?
[12:20] <defiance> Hm, seems about right
[12:20] <windowmaker> defiance: now do i edit xorg.conf?
[12:20] <defiance> windowmaker, does modprobe nvidia work alright?
[12:20] <labanux> windowmaker: i've tried Kubuntu , and npw i'm using Ubuntu (with KDE but not Kubuntu)
[12:20] <windowmaker> windowmaker@ubuntu:~$ modprobe nvidia
[12:20] <windowmaker> FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko): Operation not permitted
[12:20] <windowmaker> oh
[12:20] <windowmaker> defiance: do i need to be su?
[12:20] <defiance> hehe, sudo :D
[12:20] <defiance> yes
[12:20] <HappyFool> meepy: if no ports are open, you don't need firestarter
[12:21] <meepy> Ok
[12:21] <windowmaker> defiance: nothing happened, is that good?
[12:21] <defiance> Yup
[12:21] <labanux> windowmaker: and i think Kubuntu is not so good, it can't do many thing right..
[12:21] <defiance> do lsmod | grep nvidia
[12:21] <windowmaker> labanux: yeah, i've had trouble with whorey whorehog and KDE packs
[12:21] <nifelseki> hi guys.. need help with ndiswrapper..
[12:21] <windowmaker> labanux, actually.... i think kde is buggy altogether =\
[12:22] <windowmaker> defiance: so now shall i edit xorg.conf?
[12:22] <defiance> Heh, why use Gnome or Kde?
[12:22] <j813> Guys are Xine, MPlayer freewares?
[12:22] <defiance> windowmaker, type lsmod | grep nvidia
[12:22] <windowmaker> defiance: root@ubuntu:/home/windowmaker# lsmod | grep nvidia
[12:22] <windowmaker> nvidia               3711364  0
[12:22] <windowmaker> agpgart                32328  2 nvidia,sis_agp
[12:22] <defiance> Ah, goodgood.
[12:22] <hmpedersen_> When my router decides to disconnect wireless for a second or two.. Is there anyway to restart the connection without rebooting? For some reason itll only connect during boot..
[12:22] <defiance> windowmaker, now try editing xorg.conf .. change the driver from "nv" to "nvidia"
[12:22] <windowmaker> defiance: are we theeeeeere yeeeet?
[12:22] <defiance> lol yup
[12:22] <windowmaker> defiance: YAY
[12:23] <nifelseki> i read the info in the net on how to use it so i can make my g132 wreless usb adapter to work but the current version doesnt have load_fw_ar5523
[12:23] <labanux> windowmaker, but i think kubuntu or kde+ubuntu is the worse kde i've found.
[12:23] <windowmaker> labanux: amen
[12:23] <nifelseki> guys.. need help.. i read the info in the net on how to use it so i can make my g132 wreless usb adapter to work but the current version doesnt have load_fw_ar5523
[12:23] <nifelseki> guys.. need help.. i read the info in the net on how to use ndiswrapper so i can make my g132 wreless usb adapter to work but the current version doesnt have load_fw_ar5523
[12:23] <labanux> windowmaker: :D
[12:24] <labanux> windowmaker, so how about MEPIS, is it's kde bad too?
[12:24] <windowmaker> labanux: nah, i think it's pretty nice
[12:24] <defiance> Mepis was quite nice, infact.
[12:24] <windowmaker> defiance: all done, shall i restart X?
[12:24] <defiance> Once you install a less bloated WM ;)
[12:25] <defiance> windowmaker, yeah, try that
[12:25] <defiance> if it doesn't work just change back to "nv"
[12:25] <windowmaker> hehe, X, whenever i say X i think of that dmx song.... X gon giv it 2 ya!
[12:25] <shinu> anyone might know a program that lets me record whats happening on my screen to a video file?
[12:25] <labanux> windowmaker: so why u'r still using ubuntu?
[12:25] <defiance> shinu, uh, scrot in a infinite loop ~24 times per second? :D
[12:26] <nifelseki> guys.. need help.. i read the info in the net on how to use ndiswrapper so i can make my g132 wreless usb adapter to work but the current version doesnt have load_fw_ar5523..
[12:26] <oskude> shinu, "istanbul"
[12:26] <shinu> defiance: but that doesnt make a video :D
[12:26] <shinu> oskude: something more stable? that one keeps crashin on me....
[12:26] <defiance> shinu, haha, well, if you put the png's together it will :p
[12:27] <oskude> shinu, theres also "xvidcap" but i wasnt able to build the latest version...
[12:27] <shinu> defiance: too much work, and i dont know how xP
[12:27] <shinu> oskude: its not in the repos ;.;
[12:27] <shinu> oskude: ill give it a try anyways, thanks a lot
[12:28] <oskude> shinu, nope
[12:28] <oskude> shinu, but they have a debian package...
[12:28] <shinu> oskude: ill try struggling and compiling it first :P
[12:28] <nifelseki> guys.. need help.. i read the info in the net on how to use ndiswrapper so i can make my g132 wreless usb adapter to work but the current version doesnt have load_fw_ar5523..
[12:29] <oskude> shinu, version 1.1.4pre2 ? good luck :)
[12:30] <oskude> shinu, here some pointers http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=8822029&forum_id=36036
[12:30] <shinu> oskude: yes :) and if i fail, the previous one, and if i fail. ill ask for something else :P
[12:30] <defiance> shinu, why not just download their .deb? :P
[12:30] <Determinist> i'm looking for a tool that'll show me which packages i have installed on my system are not needed to be installed, meaning no other packages depend on them, how can i do this?
[12:30] <shinu> oskude: thanks for the link :)
[12:31] <shinu> defiance: hm... dunno... i think its a bit bad to install debian packs on ubuntu?..
[12:31] <defiance> Nah, I do it all the time. :
[12:31] <Determinist> shinu, same base system, no problem with doing that, aside from a given package or two that'll screw things up
[12:31] <nifelseki> guys.. need help.. i read the information in the net on how to use ndiswrapper so i can make my g132 wreless usb adapter to work but the current version doesnt have load_fw_ar5523..
[12:31] <czr> Determinist, deborphan works with library packages
[12:32] <czr> Determinist, for others you have to use dpkg -l and use brain
[12:32] <defiance> nifelseki, we've seen your question already, no need to repeat it!
[12:32] <Determinist> czr, thanks
[12:32] <shinu> Determinist: i see, thanks
[12:32] <defiance> runevi, what driver are you using with x.org?
[12:32] <runevi> defiance: No idea.  I've just installed a stock ubuntu 5.10
[12:32] <defiance> aah, I see.
[12:32] <runevi> defiance: I use what it autodetected. :)
[12:33] <runevi> defiance: And I'm looking for advice on what to do next so that I'll get X up and running
[12:33] <defiance> Open up a console, and do nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:33] <runevi> defiance: doing that now.
[12:33] <runevi> defiance: I'm using the 'nv' driver.
[12:34] <defiance> Hmm, okay
[12:34] <defiance> that should work.. but..
[12:34] <defiance> do this, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:34] <defiance> then change the "nv" to "nvidia"
[12:34] <runevi> defiance: doing now.
[12:34] <runevi> defiance: Do I need to reboot afterwards, or can i just kill the X-server and let it restart?
[12:35] <defiance> just restart X :-)
[12:35] <runevi> defiance: Now starting X.
[12:35] <runevi> defiance: The machine didn't hang at once, at least.
[12:35] <defiance> runevi, heh, that's a start
[12:35] <runevi> defiance: aaaaaand.. it's up'n running! :)
[12:36] <defiance> w00t
[12:36] <defiance> runevi, congratz. :-)
[12:36] <runevi> i'll be back, i'll just restart irssi from X. :-)
[12:36] <defiance> sure
[12:36] <defiance> Determinist, how come?
[12:36] <Determinist> defiance, call me insane, but i'm used to be able to see what hardware i have on my machine and have an easy way to install drivers, right now it's one big mess.
[12:36] <chrisx1> Determinist, u got msn yet?:P
[12:37] <czr> Determinist, lspci: show what hardware you have
[12:37] <Determinist> chrisx1, yes mate
[12:37] <Determinist> czr, ohh, i know mate
[12:37] <czr> as for the other part, blame hardware manufacturers
[12:37] <runevi> defiance: Great. :-)
[12:37] <czr> and blame that the kernel keeps evolving ;-)
[12:37] <runevi> defiance: Now I'll just need to get KDE onto this box. ;-)
[12:37] <Determinist> czr, i do, all the time, i even do voodoo crap :P
[12:37] <defiance> runevi, hehe, apt-get install kde
[12:37] <runevi> defiance: Great. :-)
[12:37] <czr> Determinist, does it help? :-)
[12:37] <defiance> :-)
[12:37] <Determinist> czr, nope :P
[12:38] <runevi> defiance: Package kde is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:38] <chrisx1> runevi, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:38] <defiance> Aaaahh
[12:38] <runevi> chrisx1: Thanks. :)
[12:38] <czr> thought so, I did some voodoo crap at ATI and they gave me buggy specs once :-)
[12:38] <defiance> I never use KDE anyway ;)
[12:38] <chrisx1> lol
[12:38] <Determinist> czr, lol
[12:38] <runevi> Retrieving some .. heh .. 162MB of packages. :D
[12:38] <chrisx1> i used it once on this distro
[12:38] <viller> hi, why is the w32codecs pack gone? I want to play wmv files, or is there an app that could convert wmv to something better?
[12:38] <czr> nothing beats developing graphics drivers when your system bus locks up 60 times a day ;-)
[12:38] <Determinist> we need to open a new project, voodoo
[12:38] <defiance> czr, ouchie
[12:39] <czr> but I learned how to boot my dev system over root NFS (ro)
[12:39] <czr> and then when it broke, i just hit the switch, very nice
[12:39] <runevi> czr: Was that what was happening to my machine?  It hung due to the 'nv' driver playing up with my system bus? :)
[12:39] <HappyFool> viller: there's a link to w32codecs on wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:39] <chrisx1> Determinist, anyidea why xmms or any other music app except mplayer wont play wma?
[12:39] <Determinist> chrisx1, nothing to decode it?
[12:39] <czr> runevi, well, nv driver sent something to the graphics chip, the chip went berserk and hung system bus
[12:39] <chrisx1> Determinist, i winstalled w32codecs
[12:39] <runevi> Now I just need to get myself a root password on this machine, or try to survive by sudo'ing everything. :-)  (sudo bash should work, though ;)
[12:39] <pinkisntwell> I have set xscreensaver to switch my monitor off after 25 minutes but it doesn't always do it, sometimes it just leaves the screensaver on
[12:40] <czr> runevi, although there might be other explanations too. did the machine ping externally?
[12:40] <chrisx1> runevi, there is no root
[12:40] <Determinist> chrisx1, xmms uses it's own plugins to decode stuff
[12:40] <runevi> czr: Ah. :)
[12:40] <defiance> runevi, hehe, sudo passwd root
[12:40] <runevi> chrisx1: Sure there is, it just have a random password ;)
[12:40] <czr> isn't root locked instead?
[12:40] <runevi> .. heh, actually it is locked. :D
[12:40] <czr> thought so :-)
[12:40] <defiance> eh?
[12:40] <defiance> Locked?
[12:40] <runevi> defiance: * in the shadow-file
[12:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> locked
[12:41] <Determinist> czr, well, i have a GF6600GT, thing isnt even recognized on my system, but the driver works well. still, it shouldnt be this way. there has to be some unified way to let distros handle drivers
[12:41] <defiance> Oh.
[12:41] <czr> yeah defience, locked account. cannot login with it
[12:41] <defiance> well, change its password and you can atleast su to it.
[12:41] <Ivan> i have ubuntu and windows 2000 installed on my laptop, my windows boots up in 1 min but ubuntu in 4-5 min what is wrong
[12:41] <runevi> Fun, first ubuntu installation, first time I've used LVM .. and it works. :D
[12:41] <defiance> Anyway, time to get more happypills, bbs.
[12:41] <Ivan> ?
[12:41] <czr> Determinist, once linux kernel and x.org will not change, I'm sure that could be doable
[12:41] <czr> Determinist, you can try to sell that idea to linus and the x.org-gang
[12:41] <runevi> But what is the "tmpfs                   511256     13536    497720   3% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-generic/volatile"  mount point?
[12:41] <Determinist> czr, uh huh, i'm sure they'd listen
[12:42] <czr> "hey guys, let's stop developing everything for a while so that drivers will work uniformly'
[12:42] <czr> Determinist, but I know what you mean
[12:42] <czr> I've often thought about a database based on pci-ids in the net
[12:42] <czr> and you'd just start a program and it would get the stuff over inet and tell which drivers to use and how to use them
[12:42] <cmarqu> I think someone even started that.
[12:42] <czr> the problem being that people keep on compiling their own kernels
[12:42] <runevi> czr: Oh, that'll certainly work with the damn Matrox Millennium 400 cards, which share a PCI-ID with another card. ;-)
[12:43] <czr> runevi, oh heh, wasn't aware of that :-)
[12:43] <czr> well, 'this software doesn't support matrox millennium 400' :-)
[12:43] <czr> just a nice disclaimer
[12:43] <runevi> czr: Two versions of the card, same PCI-ID, different drivers needed. :D
[12:43] <Ivan> i have ubuntu and windows 2000 installed on my laptop, my windows boots up in 1 min but ubuntu in 4-5 min what is wrong
[12:43] <nico> hola
[12:43] <czr> not identifyable even by subsys ids?
[12:43] <runevi> czr: Not sure ... I think they are - but most distros have failed me there.
[12:44] <czr> runevi, probably if they only look at vendor:device-pair
[12:44] <runevi> czr: I always have to hack around to get my dual heads working ..
[12:44] <czr> but you should look deeper
[12:44] <czr> but two displays
[12:44] <nico> works wine in amd64 architecture?
[12:44] <cmarqu> http://driverondemand.sourceforge.net/
[12:44] <czr> although I had some trouble with x.org recognizing the crt/dvi combo in a different order yesterday
[12:45] <czr> I installed ubuntu on my main computer finally (debian/unstable+hybrid shit broke very badly)
[12:45] <windowmaker> defiance: gah, it's stuffed
[12:45] <Determinist> czr, not saying they need to stop developing anything, but at least show a roadmap so hardware makers could at least find some way to make their drivers work the same way. could also help if the different distros handled hardware exactly the same
[12:46] <czr> Determinist, good luck :-)
[12:46] <Determinist> czr, sometimes having too much to choose from and being unique can give users a real headache
[12:46] <czr> I agree, it's a problem
[12:46] <czr> but that's why distros should do the hard work
[12:46] <runevi> Nice.  Now I've got kde installed.  Looking forward to testing it.  This is great. :-)  My first ubuntu experience looks like it's going to be enjoyable.
[12:46] <nico> can i play with maddnes
[12:46] <Determinist> czr, yeah
[12:46] <czr> could be nice to have an unified driver system, but I have a bad feeling that ain't going to happen while I'm alive
[12:46] <czr> and I'm planning on being alive for quite some time still
[12:47] <runevi> How do I enable those "controversial" nice ubuntu splash pictures?
[12:47] <nico> i'm working to play doom III in ubuntu amd64
[12:47] <nico> what do you think?
[12:47] <czr> doesn't doom3 support linux directly?
[12:47] <czr> why would you need wine?
[12:47] <freelove> are there any rules that hdb1 should be swap pr / partition or primary partition?
[12:48] <docta_v> czr: yes it does. using wine would be...foolish
[12:48] <runevi> freelove: No.
[12:48] <nico> need wine
[12:48] <Determinist> czr, well, i hope
[12:48] <nico> i need drink some wine too
[12:49] <freelove> runevi: during installation i saw that swap was my primary partition....and home & / were logical ones............is this ok?
[12:49] <czr> freelove, depends on what you want to achieve. but no techical limitations
[12:49] <windowmaker> defiance: are you there?
[12:49] <docta_v> carmack didn't want to dick anyone over so it got released on win, mac and linux almost simultaneously
[12:49] <czr> freelove, if it works, it's ok
[12:49] <runevi> freelove: I think so .. I usually have / as hda1 or whatever, then make the rest be logical volumes, but I think it
[12:49] <docta_v> ubuntu doesn't make a /boot?
[12:49] <runevi> it's just a matter of taste.,
[12:49] <brosiooz> anyone knwon a repository with java1.5 for ubuntu ?
[12:50] <czr> docta_v, you only need /boot for old bioses and for booting LVM-rooted systems
[12:50] <docta_v> czr: there's always cedega
[12:50] <zizo> I have a question about libdvdcss
[12:50] <czr> docta_v, can't be bothered with that
[12:50] <docta_v> haha...why not
[12:50] <docta_v> it's not that much trouble is it
[12:50] <czr> it won't work anyway :-)
[12:50] <Ng> brosiooz: it's fairly easy to make your own: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[12:50] <czr> I'm a realist
[12:50] <runevi> czr: Oh, you always have those freecraft things. .
[12:51] <czr> hehe
[12:51] <docta_v> cedega is pretty robust at this point
[12:51] <runevi> czr: A lot of those are really nice.
[12:51] <Ivan> is it possible to reinstall ubuntu with a cmd
[12:51] <Ivan> ?
[12:51] <czr> runevi, they have AI nowadays?
[12:51] <czr> docta_v, you use it
[12:51] <czr> ?
[12:51] <hawking> will I face any problems if I remove evolution and install thunderbird istead?
[12:51] <runevi> czr: I think so.  Not the best in the world, but .. :_)
[12:51] <docta_v> czr: no :)  but it's good
[12:52] <czr> docta_v, what do you base your second-hand opinion on then?
[12:52] <docta_v> czr: i don't even use a linux desktop i just like to troll on here
[12:52] <runevi> czr: It's called 'stratagus' these days.  Last time I checked it out it was pretty good - but I had some problems with my graphics card.
[12:52] <aeon17x> !harddrive
[12:52] <czr> docta_v, you're evil :-)
[12:52] <Ng> hawking: it'd be easier to leave evolution installed, otherwise the ubuntu-desktop metapackage will have to be removed I suspect, but you're fine to install and use thunderbird either way :)
[12:52] <czr> runevi, hmm, I'll check it out
[12:52] <docta_v> czr: i've heard good things about it and it's list of supported games is impressive
[12:52] <runevi> Nice.. it has been in active development the last few months too
[12:52] <aeon17x> Uh, what happened to ubotu?
[12:52] <aeon17x> ;_;
[12:53] <czr> docta_v, good to know before I spend many hours trying to figure out what went wrong with it :-)
[12:53] <irvin> aeon17x: ubotu died earlier
[12:53] <shinu> oskude: ok i failed :P even the .deb doesnt like me.
[12:53] <Ng> docta_v: cedega's pretty poor generally, but it beats rebooting
[12:53] <Ivan> any 1
[12:53] <Ivan> ???
[12:53] <aeon17x> noooooo
[12:53] <zizo> i am trying to install libdvdcss2 using Synaptic Package Manager but it says that libdvdcss2 can't be authenticated so it is dangerous to install it. So any advice?
[12:53] <shinu> oskude: anyways, gotta run now so ill try some other things later :D
[12:53] <senectus> hello again everyone. I've just swapped my mainboard and processor out and rebooted and the PC has come up with most stuff working fine.. except for my x.org/nvidia AGP card.. is there some way I can make it auto detect and resetup every thing again?
[12:53] <irvin> zizo: just ignore it
[12:53] <oskude> shinu, i was able to build this http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/xvidcap/xvidcap-1.1.3-p7.tar.gz
[12:53] <freelove> zizo: its alright......go ahaead
[12:54] <docta_v> Ng: i guess i'll need my wintendo for a while then
[12:54] <czr> docta_v, you know whether cedega 'supports' ubuntu?
[12:54] <oskude> shinu, im experimenting with it atm...
[12:54] <irvin> zizo: you probably need to apt=get update later to fix that
[12:54] <Ng> docta_v: meh, a ps2 is much more useful :)
[12:54] <czr> ng, you've used cedega?
[12:54] <Ng> czr: their debian packages work with ubuntu
[12:54] <Vivid> Hi Everybody
[12:54] <docta_v> Ng: what do you play on ps2? i have trouble getting interested in games these days
[12:54] <czr> ng, thanks, but is it crap or not? should I waste time on it?
[12:54] <zizo> so it won't make my system vulnerable to any kind of attack?
[12:54] <Ivan> any 1 know how to reinstall ubuntu, i dont have a cd-drive i have ubuntu installed
[12:54] <Vivid> I have a short question ...
[12:54] <Ng> docta_v: I'm gonna go and get Kong later :)
[12:54] <hawking> Ng : what happens when ubuntu-desktop meta package is removed?
[12:54] <runevi> Ahwell, gotta test KDE.  I'll be back
[12:55] <pierrot> mmjoin n
[12:55] <pierrot> join n7mm
[12:55] <Ng> czr: that depends on the game you want to play - if it's well supported then it probably is worth using, but some games don't work and some take a lot of fiddling. I only use it for CounterStrike:Source, so I'm hardly a world expert on it ;)
[12:55] <senectus> hello again everyone. I've just swapped my mainboard and processor out and rebooted and the PC has come up with most stuff working fine.. except for my x.org/nvidia AGP card.. is there some way I can make it auto detect and resetup every thing again?
[12:55] <Vivid> Is there also a tool in Ubuntu, to install applications, like in Suse or Fedora????
[12:55] <docta_v> Ng: shadow of the colossus is cool...a lot of people are saying it's the game of the year. i don't know about that but it's fun
[12:55] <irvin> Vivid: Synaptic
[12:55] <Vivid> nice
[12:55] <Vivid> thx
[12:55] <HappyFool> senectus: try running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[12:55] <Ng> hawking: nothing much really, providing you put it back on before you upgrade your install to the next release
[12:56] <windowmaker> defiance: you there man?
[12:56] <hawking> Ng : thanks
[12:56] <Vivid> Is it possible to make the windows more transparent??
[12:56] <czr> ng, ok, thanks
[12:57] <Vivid> Irvin: Is it possible to make the windows more transparent??
[12:57] <Ng> Vivid: support for that is still very new, but there's something called xcompmgr that can make individual windows translucent if your X server supports it
[12:57] <dl1bku> Hi, I'd like to tweak an input driver for xorg-x11. However, I cannot locate the "xorg-x11-sdk" package (Suse's name) or similar for ubuntu (google and friends didn't reveal any useful info). A hint what to look out for would be helpful. Anybody?
[12:58] <senectus> HappyFool, how do I find out what the video cards bus identifyer is?
[12:58] <rabeldable> !sdk
[12:58] <Vivid> I don't need it for individual windows.... I want it for EVERY window... and for every windows the same settings!
[12:58] <HappyFool> senectus: i'm not sure, sorry
[12:58] <HappyFool> dl1bku: try x-window-system-dev
[12:58] <dl1bku> senectus: lspci?
[12:58] <irvin> Vivid: yes
[12:59] <irvin> it's on the wiki as i remember
[12:59] <Vivid> ok
[12:59] <senectus> dl1bku, doesn't show up anything nvidia related...
[12:59] <Vivid> so I'll look for it
[12:59] <Vivid> I will bookmark this channel now, for later ! :)
[12:59] <Ng> senectus: are you sure you need the identifier? afaik you only really need it if you have multiple cards
[01:00] <irvin> cool
[01:00] <xfree> when the printer -lasser one- print page with like a shadow everywhere what that mean ? and how can i fix this?
[01:00] <senectus> Ng, well there is an onboard one, but I don't want to use it.. I have a gforce6600gt in the AGP slot
[01:00] <irvin> Vivid: i'd love to search it for you, but i've got lots on my hands
[01:00] <dl1bku> HappyFool: Ok, i believe I checked that out and was still missing some headers (e.g. xf86version.h)... I'll report back in a minute if the package is installed
[01:00] <j813> How can I add a choice for Monitor resolution in desktop or xorg.conf? Was not able to add it during setup installtion
[01:00] <HappyFool> dl1bku: ah
[01:01] <shinu> oskude: okies, ill try that when i come back. :D
[01:01] <czr> ng, you use cedega?
[01:01] <Ng> senectus: ah, then you will need to. does lspci not show any VGA controllers?
[01:01] <Vivid> If you find something, you can post me the link the next time
[01:01] <HappyFool> dl1bku: packages.ubuntu.com has a file search field. I remember needing extra things for some X app I compiled
[01:01] <Ng> czr: I answered that question already
[01:01] <czr> ah yes, so you did, didn't notice, sry :-)
[01:02] <dl1bku> senectus: you should see something like this: 0000:00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 Go]  (rev b2)
[01:02] <Vivid> Thx for your help. I have to leave now. Cu later!
[01:02] <ma> hello
[01:02] <ma> i need help
[01:03] <dragoon> ...
[01:03] <WildZeck> hello , i need money
[01:03] <djib> my god OOo Base is soooooo unstable !!!
[01:04] <melonipoika> hi, i need help resizing my ext3 partition, i have tryed with parted in live cd, but i get err saying "filesystem has options not suported" or something like that...
[01:04] <HappyFool> ma: please be more specific
[01:04] <dragoon> melonipoika: in your partition table is it set to ext3 ?
[01:04] <senectus> dl1bku, ok I see this: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 00f1 (rev a2)
[01:04] <WildZeck> melonipoika, try qtpated from knoppix 4
[01:04] <dl1bku> HappyFool: let me rephrase this: It's not an X11-app (no problems here). It's the pen input driver for my tablet-pc. There are some "Pen buttons" on the screen ("off screen") that generate Keyboard events. However the position definition is plainly wrong and needs to be tweaked -> Hence I need to compile a "X11-driver" first. X-window-system-dev is installed btw.
[01:04] <hile> melonipoika: uh you have quite funny nick ;)
[01:04] <dragoon> senectus: that looks right
[01:04] <melonipoika> hehe
[01:04] <dragoon> mines about the same
[01:05] <melonipoika> i have tryed qtparted from systemrescuecd, but it didn't let me resize that partition
[01:05] <senectus> dragoon, hmm so why is it crashing when I kick in GDM
[01:05] <HappyFool> dl1bku: and you're pretty sure xf86version.h is the file you need? I couldn't find that on packages.ubuntu.com
[01:05] <melonipoika> hile, puhutko suomea?
[01:05] <hile> toki
[01:05] <dragoon> whats the error ?
[01:06] <senectus> dragoon, do you want the xserver output? (last few lines anyhow)?
[01:06] <runevi> God!  What a terrible noise!
[01:06] <runevi> My soundcard isn't working well ;D
[01:06] <dragoon> senectus: yea that would help :)
[01:07] <runevi> Maybe I should disable the internal sound card. :D
[01:07] <docta_v> runevi: sometimes a swift kick will help
[01:07] <ma> I have two computers but onli qne monito
[01:07] <senectus> dragoon, ahh crap.. I know what I've done wrong :-P I haven't attached the extrnal power to it.. sorry for wasting your time :-P
[01:08] <senectus> I'm an idiot :-)
[01:08] <dl1bku> HappyFool: many more, this is just the first one (xf86tc1k.c:67:25: xf86Version.h: No such file or directory). I just checked back to debian - no sdk package there either... Looks like I have to install the xorg-x11 sources 8-( (or use SuSe on a remote computer). Thank's anyway
[01:09] <dragoon> senectus: no problem
[01:09] <xfree> whay ubuntu more diff than other distro on share network -use ubuntu like getway [router] - ?
[01:09] <dl1bku> HappyFool: maybe one last question: are there any developer IRC-Channels?
[01:10] <HappyFool> dl1bku: google indicates other people are having the same problem
[01:10] <HappyFool> dl1bku: for ubuntu? #ubuntu-devel, i think
[01:10] <ma> i want to have one red of two computers but with one monitor
[01:11] <dl1bku> HappyFool: ok, yes - google said that others were looking on the web... this doesn't mean there is no solution when asking the right people 8-)
[01:11] <aeon17x> Is it possible to expand the partition Ubuntu occupies so that it'll get more disk space? (in this case, ext3)
[01:11] <HappyFool> aeon17x: ext3 partitions can be resized, afaik
[01:12] <hawking> where can i get clamAv's rar module? when it scans rar files it gives rar module failure
[01:12] <HappyFool> aeon17x: 'man resize2fs' -- you'll need to umount the partition, though
[01:12] <ma> hay alguien k hable espaol??
[01:12] <czr> aeon17x, offline: resize2fs, online: ext2online, but won't work with ubuntu kernels
[01:12] <HappyFool> ma: try #ubuntu-es   (   /join #ubuntu-es   )
[01:13] <aeon17x> Thanks, I'll try it out sometime.
[01:13] <freelove> attn! kopete now lets u see webcams! yoooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooooooo!:D
[01:13] <Determinist> was openoffice 2 added to breezy repositories? not 1.9.X, but actual 2.0.X
[01:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[01:14] <aeon17x> Determinist: there's a forum topic that points you to the repositories, but those are not the official Ubuntu repos.
[01:15] <Determinist> hmm, yes, i know that
[01:16] <runevi> Okay.  I still have problems with the audio card.  It's a Sound Blaster Audigy SE .. the kernel module loaded is the snd_ca0106 ( I think).
[01:16] <docta_v> runevi: you should verify with lsmod
[01:16] <runevi> docta_v: Well, I did ..
[01:16] <runevi> docta_v: But I'm not familiar enough with soundcards. :)
[01:17] <runevi> snd_ca0106, snd_ac97_codec, snd_pcm_oss, snd_mixer_oss, snd_pcm, snd_timer and snd is loaded
[01:18] <senectus> dragoon, ok gdm starts A-okay now, then when I log in I get a brown screen with a mouse pointer.. thats it.. No icons I got no "loading splash" or anything..
[01:19] <runevi> It sounds like a ships horn if I push ANY of the options up in alsamixer.
[01:19] <runevi> Really, Really bad sound.
[01:19] <runevi> (That, and try to play an mp3)
[01:19] <Ng> Determinist: after they cut a release, ubuntu only includes serious bug fixes, not new versions
[01:19] <dragoon> senectus: have you something like gnome installed
[01:19] <Determinist> Ng, alright, thanks
[01:20] <senectus> dragoon, something like? I have a full Ubuntu install no real customisations other than non-free drivers like the nvidia
[01:20] <northie> trying to get my audigy ls to give some sound. anyone done this?
[01:21] <senectus> dragoon, that is to say... the normal ubuntu desktop which is Gnome
[01:21] <dragoon> ok
[01:21] <runevi> northie: Well, I have problems wth my audigy se ..
[01:21] <dragoon> make sure its selected
[01:21] <dragoon> and wait for it to load ^^
[01:21] <northie> yeah, runevi, thought mine was an se too.. only ubuntu finds it as an ls :p
[01:21] <sdakota> where can I find the network install CD ?
[01:21] <sdakota> oops
[01:21] <sdakota> wrong channel :/
[01:21] <runevi> northie: ah.
[01:21] <rambo3> there is non
[01:22] <runevi> northie: I'll check what my ubuntu identifies it as.
[01:22] <oskude> yes there is, i use one :)
[01:22] <northie> okay. you got any sound at all?
[01:22] <runevi> northie: Ah.  Mine is also identified as an 'ls'.
[01:22] <rambo3> oskude a ubuntu net install?
[01:22] <northie> lovely.
[01:22] <runevi> northie: Well, if I enter alsamixer, and turn up the volume .. it sounds like a ships horn
[01:22] <oskude> rambo3, yup
[01:22] <runevi> :-)
[01:22] <runevi> northie: Really, really, really nasty
[01:23] <Nameeater> what is a good vnc app?
[01:23] <BockBilbo> osfameron, there is a debian one but not an ubuntu net install i think
[01:23] <northie> runevi,  yeah, tell me about it. the analog front, right?
[01:23] <runevi> northie: Do you get the ship-horn sound too?
[01:23] <northie> runevi,  or all the levers?
[01:23] <runevi> northie: Exactly.
[01:23] <northie> runevi,  hah
[01:23] <runevi> northie: Sounds nasty for you too?
[01:23] <docta_v> Nameeater: tightvnc
[01:23] <oskude> coooool, xvidcap works :)
[01:24] <northie> runevi: Yeah, real bad.
[01:24] <northie> runevi: Let's figure it out.
[01:24] <runevi> northie: Houston, I think we've found a bug. :-)
[01:24] <senectus> dragoon, It's been waiting for about 5 mins now... still nothing and no disc activity
[01:24] <northie> runevi: Heh. You on alsa?
[01:24] <runevi> northie: Yeah.  My guess is that it's another chipset.
[01:24] <Nameeater> docta_v: looks interesting, thanks
[01:24] <runevi> northie: Yup.
[01:24] <dragoon> odd
[01:24] <runevi> northie: My guess is that it's another chipset with the "second edition".
[01:24] <northie> runevi: Could you switch to alsa right off or did you run through some guide?
[01:25] <northie> runevi: sounds interesting
[01:25] <runevi> northie: it installed with alsa ..
[01:25] <runevi> northie: Installed ubuntu like .. 30 minutes ago, for the first time. :D
[01:25] <Nameeater> hmm, can you use anything to be the client?
[01:25] <northie> runevi: ah. I reinstalled it thirty minutes ago, after working for hours through different guides and messing everything up royally in the proces
[01:25] <freelove> hey check out this cute ubuntu wallpaper http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/files/4/6/2/5/7/ubuntu_winter_tux_hat_original.png
[01:26] <northie> runevi: freaking out over my audio here.
[01:26] <northie> runevi: if you head into system, settings, multimedia system selector, does it let you test the alsa?
[01:26] <runevi> northie: Same here, but luckily I've got an on board audio card too, but that's not a 7.1 card.
[01:27] <runevi> northie: running kubuntu here. :D
[01:27] <northie> runevi: ah. hah.
[01:27] <oskude> freelove, nice, but the "hat" looks ugly (badly resized bitmap over vector graphics O.o )
[01:27] <docta_v> Nameeater: yes but you don't get the benefit of the tightvnc extensions... there is a tightvnc viewer for everything though...you can even use the java one on OSX
[01:27] <freelove> oskude: :(
[01:27] <Nameeater> cool ok
[01:27] <northie> runevi: goddammit, we need a professional sound-guy here.
[01:27] <runevi> northie: I'm trying to find some kernel-traffic. :)
[01:28] <Nameeater> oo there it is
[01:28] <runevi> northie: Well, I'm going to look through kernel-traffic to see whether a newer kernel may solve it.
[01:28] <northie> runevi: i have no idea what you're talking about, but it sounds good. keep at it, billy jo.
[01:28] <senectus> guys when I log into ubuntu after the GDM login I get just a brown screen (no icons or panels) and the "loading splash" never came up. Any ideas?
[01:29] <HymnToLife> senectus > certainly you messed up gnome
[01:29] <northie> senectus: hit ctrl-alt-f1 to ctrl-alt-f6 and check where the thing locks up.
[01:29] <runevi> northie: http://forum.micromart.co.uk/shwmessage.aspx?forumid=22&messageid=75599#bm75877  .. someone with the same problem on SuSE.
[01:30] <HymnToLife> launh a failsafe terminal and run apt-get install gnome
[01:30] <Pawka> hi
[01:30] <Pawka> what is ubuntu technical requirements?
[01:30] <northie> runevi: i heard we were on alsa's shitlist. http://www.alsa-project.org/black.html
[01:30] <senectus> northie, how do I see how it locked up? is there a particular log for that?
[01:30] <oNe^somewhere> how do i set up a network to see windows pc's and for them to see mine (network = 2 windows pc's and 1 ubuntu)
[01:30] <HymnToLife> I got the same problem after trying to remoe evolution :p
[01:31] <runevi> northie: Eyh .. #creative is a support channel for creative's open source drivers .. on THIS network! :)
[01:31] <northie> senectus: well, with them combos you check through the gnome startup sequence, and somewhere or other it's at a halt.
[01:32] <northie> senectus: but yeah, apt-get install gnome right away wouldn't be a bother.
[01:32] <Pawka> can i run ubuntu @ 500 mhz P3 ?
[01:32] <Pawka> :-)
[01:32] <northie> runevi: i'll be there
[01:32] <irvin> Pawka: sure you can
[01:32] <Nameeater> pawka: ram?
[01:32] <oNe^somewhere> i'm running mine on a 450 Mhz Pawka
[01:33] <oNe^somewhere> 384 Mb of ram
[01:33] <senectus> northie, ctrl-alt-f1 gets me a termianl session, I can log into that, but where do i look for signs of how gnome halted?
[01:33] <Nameeater> that would be fine ;) my 400mhz 64meg of ram chugs a bit, need to throw anouther 64/128 in it
[01:33] <northie> senectus, eh. ctrl-alt-f8 i think
[01:33] <Pawka> ok
[01:33] <Pawka> thanx
[01:34] <Pawka> i have 192 ram
[01:35] <oNe^somewhere> how do i set up a network to see windows pc's and for them to see mine (network = 2 windows pc's and 1 ubuntu)
[01:36] <ucit> hiho
[01:36] <defiance> Hmm.
[01:37] <rob_p> oNe^somewhere:  Create a network, put all of the machines on the same subnet, load and configure samba on the Ubuntu box, and make sure they are setup in the same workgroup.  Easy!
[01:37] <irvin> oNe^somewhere: setup samba
[01:37] <kyncani> oNe^somewhere: methinks you should get some howto for windows, linux, samba, network
[01:37] <oNe^somewhere> i have amba
[01:37] <oNe^somewhere> samba
[01:37] <aitor> what must I do to make my wireless network card connect at startup?
[01:37] <rob_p> oNe^somewhere:  Then do the other steps!
[01:38] <aitor> I have to connect it manually
[01:38] <senectus> northie, umm It's sitting at "checkng battery state". This is a desktop.. it's got no battery as such
[01:38] <aitor> I wrote the configuration parameters at /etc/network/interfaces, but it won't work :S
[01:39] <dpupp-afk> i set up apache, but i need to set permittion for the /var/www/ folder to be readable by the world. how do i do that?
[01:40] <dpupp-afk> i just want it read only.
[01:40] <aitor> chmod
[01:41] <rob_p> dpupp-afk:  As long as the user under which apache runs, can read it, you're good to go.
[01:41] <ucit> sudo chmod
[01:41] <dpupp-afk> ok thanks
[01:42] <ucit> probably you'l have to use google for the use of the command, i only know u have to sudo chmod
[01:42] <dpupp-afk> ok... chmod says too few arguments...
[01:42] <dpupp-afk> sorry.. im new to this
[01:42] <ucit> that's what i mean
[01:43] <ucit> i dont know accactly to
[01:43] <ucit> that's why u'l have to search google for chmod
[01:43] <triple5> you don't have to google for chmod
[01:43] <dpupp-afk> ah ok. got it.
[01:43] <dpupp-afk> ??
[01:43] <jorgg> if I want to program a GUI application with wxWidgets how do I install the needed libaries?
[01:43] <triple5> just use the built in system of man and info
[01:44] <triple5> for example chmod --help
[01:44] <dpupp-afk> man chmod right?
[01:44] <dpupp-afk> ah
[01:44] <triple5> or chmod --usage
[01:44] <ucit> of course xD
[01:44] <rob_p> dpupp-afk:  What are you trying to do?
[01:44] <ucit> srry, my fault
[01:44] <triple5> or info chmod or man chmod
[01:45] <dpupp-afk> chmod --usage says unreconized option
[01:45] <dpupp-afk> rob_p im just trying to set a group of files to be readable.
[01:45] <rob_p> dpupp-afk:  Readable by apache right?
[01:46] <dpupp-afk> yeah and the world.
[01:46] <triple5> btw for apache you don't need the /var/www/ to set to be readable to world, you just have to have it readable to www-data
[01:46] <triple5> apache should be part of www-data
[01:46] <dpupp-afk> i thought it had to be in the /var/www
[01:46] <rob_p> dpupp-afk:  Do, "ls -ld /var/www | cut -d ' ' -f1" and tell us what it says.
[01:47] <dpupp-afk> hang on a sec. this wil be easier if i log in here from the other machine instead of running back and forth
[01:47] <dl1bku> HappyFool: use alien on an arbritrary xorg-x11-sdk.rpm and editing the Imakefile worked -> success
[01:47] <rob_p> dpupp-afk:  It should be drwxr-xr-x and will probably be owned by root.
[01:48] <rob_p> dpupp-afk:  ...which is fine.  As long as the user under which apache runs, can read it, you're set.
[01:48] <hawking> lol
[01:48] <triple5> exactly rob_p is right stick to his advice
[01:48] <BrianB04> Morning all
[01:48] <triple5> I gotta lave for a while
[01:49] <dpupp_apache> rob_p, what was that command again?
[01:49] <dpupp_apache> i switched machines
[01:49] <triple5> dpupp_apache just type ls -al /var
[01:49] <rob_p> dpupp_apache:  ls -ld /var/www
[01:49] <oNe^somewhere> smb4k sux big time
[01:49] <dpupp_apache> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 2005-12-10 07:38 /var/www
[01:50] <dpupp_apache> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[01:50] <kbrooks|bed> back
[01:50] <rob_p> dpupp_apache:  Looks fine to me.  It's set to mode 755 which means everyone can read it.
[01:51] <dpupp_apache> odd. i keep getting forbidden when i try to look at it: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[01:51] <rob_p> dpupp_apache:  Go view your apache logs then.
[01:51] <dpupp_apache> k...
[01:51] <dpupp_apache> brb
[01:51] <rob_p> dpupp_apache:  /var/log/apache or something...
[01:53] <rob_p> dpupp_apache:  Your index.html file is readable by apache right?  (ex: chmod 644 index.html)
[01:54] <dpupp_apache> honestly, i dont know. its showing as 700
[01:54] <rob_p> dpupp_apache:  That's why!
[01:54] <rob_p> dpupp_apache:  change it to 644
[01:55] <rob_p> dpupp_apache:  chmod 644 /var/www/index.html
[01:55] <dpupp_apache> rob_p... all my files in /var/www/ are 700
[01:55] <selinium> dpupp_apache, sudo chmod -r 0644 /var/www
[01:55] <dpupp_apache> *takes note*
[01:55] <rob_p> dpupp_apache:  Well, they need to be readable if you want apache to serve them.
[01:55] <selinium> :)
[01:56] <runevi> Hohumm .. okay.  Ubuntu installed.  Now I need to get my sound card working .. and find how I remove that nasty en_US.UTF-8 and get good old Latin-1 (ISO-8859-1 ;)
[01:56] <tdondich> I'm running amd64, and I'm attempting to run a program which requires SDL.    It screwes up when you also need to support foreign charsets.  I'm _Dead tired_ of strange chars fscking up my commands.
[01:57] <dpupp_apache> rop_p, im getting an error in the terminal...I type: ookami@navi:~$ sudo chmod -r 0644 /var/www and it says:  cannot access `0644': No such file or directory
[01:57] <runevi> mjr: I get strange "invisible" chars on my command lines if I use certain keys.
[01:57] <runevi> mjr: Which I need to locate and delete by hitting backspace _twice_ at the correct place.
[01:58] <runevi> mjr: It's also a pain if I'm doing a for-loop in bash, creating new files, who all is created with strange chars.
[01:58] <runevi> mjr: Especially if the strange char is the first character of the filename.
[01:58] <runevi> mjr: UTF-8 when using a norwegian keyboard *sucks* under linux.
[01:59] <runevi> mjr: And it has been in that state of suckiness for at least 4 years.
[01:59] <mjr> runevi, you might get that shell behaviour if your shell doesn't support utf-8; bash does
[01:59] <runevi> mjr: I use bash.
[01:59] <runevi> mjr: And I get that behaviour with bash.
[01:59] <runevi> mjr: But it doesn't happen on my _own_ machine, it happens when I ssh into other machines.
[01:59] <mjr> perhaps you just use a sucky terminal then. Or you have some conflicting self-made locale settings in different processes (terminal, bash)
[01:59] <dpupp_apache> rob_p thanks for pointing me in the right direction. :) seems i need to learn a lot about permisions first.
[02:00] <rob_p> dpupp_apache:  Sorry I stepped away...  Did you get it figured out?
[02:00] <mjr> runevi, well then, you need a translator program (luit, screen) in between, or just set consistent locales on the other boxes too
[02:00] <dpupp_apache> no, i got an error when issuing the command.
[02:00] <dpupp_apache> rob_p^
[02:00] <mjr> as for filenames, convmv is a nice utility to convert
[02:00] <defiance> Hrm
[02:00] <runevi> mjr: Or I just switch to iso-8859-1 which doesn't cause me pain.
[02:01] <defiance> Anyone got any tips for playing .WMV files?
[02:01] <dpupp_apache> defiance, w32codecs will allow the play back of .wmv
[02:01] <defiance> Well, as far as I know, they're not in the reps?
[02:01] <runevi> mjr: I've spent enough hundreds of hours troubleshooting utf-8 troubles, without getting anywhere near where I would want to be.
[02:01] <runevi> mjr: So, back to iso-8859-1 for me.
[02:02] <dpupp_apache> uncomment your sources: sudo gedit/etc/apt/sources.list
[02:02] <runevi> (Strange thing, everybody else at work also have switched back to iso-8859-1 ;)
[02:02] <defiance> dpupp_apache, heh, which ones?
[02:02] <triple5> dpupp-apache you should try to look in the access file on the server, it should be visible when you type ls -al /var/www/
[02:02] <triple5> it is called .htaccess
[02:03] <triple5> apache2 looks into this file in order to check access privileges
[02:03] <dpupp_apache> i still have not been able to set 644 to my 700 files.
[02:03] <selinium> dpupp_apache, WHAT COMMAND DID YOU ISSYE?
[02:03] <dpupp_apache> defiance, im not sure which onces.
[02:03] <rob_p> dpupp_apache:  do, "sudo chmod 644 /var/www/*" and that will make all files within  /var/www readable.
[02:03] <selinium> Oops caps lock
[02:03] <selinium> Oops caps lock
[02:03] <defiance> Hm, well, I'm using multiverse, universe, backports, restricted etc.. still not finding it. I thought I read about it being removed cause of it not being free or something like that.
[02:04] <selinium> dpupp_apache,  sudo chmod -R 0644 /var/www
[02:04] <dpupp_apache> ookami@navi:~$ sudo chmod 644 /var/www/*
[02:04] <dpupp_apache> chmod: cannot access `/var/www/*': No such file or directory
[02:04] <selinium> dpupp_apache,  you need the recurse flag
[02:04] <dpupp_apache>  sudo chmod -R 0644 /var/www -- solved ;)
[02:04] <simi> ciao
[02:05] <dpupp_apache> now to test it ;)
[02:05] <rob_p> selinium:  You're assuming he doesn't have any files (such as cgi) that will need to be executable.
[02:05] <dpupp_apache> i dotn ahve any cgi... just html...and images.
[02:05] <selinium> dpupp_apache, True, but he has on ly HTML
[02:05] <dpupp_apache> im not daring enough to add anything else at the moment.
[02:05] <rob_p> dpupp_apache:  That's fine.
[02:05] <trevilor> hi guys
[02:06] <triple5> dpupp_apache: I still don't see anything, do you have  an index.html?
[02:06] <trevilor> a package suggests to install "w32codecs" but apt-cache shows no such package. any ideas?
[02:06] <selinium> dpupp_apache, remember you can type <command> --help for greater knowledge on a command or fo more indepth explainations use man <command>
[02:06] <selinium> dpupp_apache, take a look at   chmod --help   and    man chmod
[02:08] <deity> hi
[02:08] <dpupp_apache> ok. got it. will try reading the man pages again.. but it seems i can never make heads or tails of the lines without a real life example..
[02:08] <trevilor> hi
[02:09] <trevilor> dpupp_apache, google for tutorials for linux beginners. they cover examples and non-techy explanations
[02:09] <Ubuntu-Pk> how do i make updates in ubuntu
[02:09] <dpupp_apache> i remember last time before i had to reinstall ubuntu, i could rt clickt he file and select the permision from there...
[02:09] <hawking> when I scan a directory with clamscan ... does it try to do any action on infected files or does it just list them?
[02:10] <Ubuntu-Pk> can somebody help me with the update part of ubuntu
[02:10] <dpupp_apache> now its saying unable to determine permision.
[02:12] <SuperSox> hello, I've just installed ubuntu (very impressed) but I didn't get the option to set a root password at install so I'm curious to know what it is
[02:12] <hawking> noone knows?
[02:12] <Kimppa> Hello. I'm trying to make a swapfile, but I have small problems with the swapon-command. What I've done so far : 1) created an empty file to /var/swapfile usind the command "dd if=/dev/zero of=swapfile bs=1024 count=1048576". Then I made it a swap "mkswap -L myswap swapfile". Now I'm wondering, how do I actually start using that swapfile?
[02:12] <rob_p> dpupp_apache:  If apache still can't serve up any content from your /var/www dir, then it's time to view your /var/log/apache/error.log for clues.  Apache's config files have many options and maybe something is not configured properly.
[02:12] <trevilor> Ubuntu-Pk, beginner questions are covered by the manual
[02:12] <Kimppa> I tried with "swapon -U <uuid>" but it didn't work :/
[02:12] <SuperSox> well, using the only password I supplied to su to root, doesn't work :S
[02:13] <thoreauputic_> SuperSox: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:13] <trevilor> SuperSox, check the ubuntu faq. its nicely explained why you dont use a password for the root account
[02:13] <rob_p> hawking:  By default, it just gives a report to stdout.  If you want it to remove the infected file(s), you have to tell it to do so.  man clamscan for more info...
[02:14] <SuperSox> thankyou :)
[02:14] <senectus> what kernel should I be using for the AMD 64 3200+ (venice core) but in 32 bit mode?
[02:14] <thoreauputic_> SuperSox: Ubuntu uses sudo, not su for superuser tasks
[02:14] <giorgos_> ubuntu's openoffice has many unusable greek fonts, where can I report it?
[02:14] <dpupp_apache> i wonder if i have to restart apache for this to take effect.
[02:14] <SuperSox> thoreauputic_: okie :)
[02:15] <rob_p> dpupp_apache:  Only if you changed the config file(s).  But it can't hurt to reload it (/etc/init.d/apache reload).
[02:16] <rob_p> dpupp_apache:  Did apache's error log give you any clues?
[02:16] <dpupp_apache> uh-oh... i think i messed something up.
[02:16] <dpupp_apache> * Forcing reload of web server  (Apache2)... httpd (pid 6016?) not running
[02:17] <levander> Somebody can tell me why /etc/skel/.bashrc checks for the TERM value "color-xterm"?  I've never seen any program set TERM to color-xterm.
[02:17] <dpupp_apache> error log... *trying to locate it*
[02:17] <triple5> Ubuntu-Pk: click on synaptic in your menu also don't forget to look at the right top of your screen if updates are available there is a red little button click on that and it's all automagically
[02:17] <senectus> what kernel should I be using for the AMD 64 3200+ (venice core) but in 32 bit mode?
[02:18] <dpupp_apache> yeah i found it there. :) didnt see anything out of normal other than a huge list of items denided.
[02:19] <dpupp_apache> Sat Dec 10 07:29:53 2005]  [notice]  Apache/2.0.54 (Ubuntu) configured -- resuming normal operations
[02:19] <dpupp_apache> thats at the top.
[02:19] <thomas__> hi
[02:19] <thomas__> perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = "de_DE:en_GB:en", LC_ALL  "de", LANG = "de_DE.UTF-8" are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C");
[02:19] <thomas__> how do i solve this?
[02:20] <dpupp_apache> hmm. i dont remember it being this hard last time :( i must be doing something wrong.
[02:20] <selinium> dpupp_apache, How did you install everything?
[02:20] <dpupp_apache> synaptic.
[02:20] <dpupp_apache> then i copied all the files on my backup drive to /var/www/
[02:21] <seife``> Hi
[02:21] <dpupp_apache> i edited the apache2.conf to aim at my custom 404...saved it, and that was it.
[02:21] <selinium> hi thoreauputic_  Where has the bot gone?
[02:21] <seife``> Why i cant see the files of my windows partitions that is on this same hard drive? I shared the whole disk and i still dont see anything..
[02:21] <rob_p> dpupp_apache:  You're going to be most interested in the last few lines of the error log.  Anyway, good luck with it.  I'm sure you'll get it figured out.
[02:22] <dpupp_apache> thanks rop_p.
[02:22] <thoreauputic_> selinium: I don't know - cafuego would be the person to ask I guess - but I don't think he's around
[02:23] <selinium> dpupp_apache, there is a really good install tutorial in the wiki  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:23] <agente87> is anybody using edubuntu?
[02:23] <selinium> thoreauputic_, It has been missing for a few days now...
[02:23] <BuFF> how can i install kde in ubuntu 5.10 ?
[02:23] <thoreauputic_> selinium: off and on - was here for a while yesterday
[02:24] <selinium> Oh, ok, I will track cafuego down.
[02:24] <william> What is the name of that program which allows an ASPI drive to behave as an SCSI drive?
[02:25] <selinium> dpupp_apache, I assume that the chown has the right users?
[02:25] <senectus> guys when I log into ubuntu after the GDM login I get just a brown screen (no icons or panels) and the "loading splash" never came up. Any ideas?
[02:26] <trevilor> can anyone please explain to me why the package w32codecs is not available when i use the sources.list from this url: http://schimana.net/ubuntu-sourceslist/
[02:28] <william> Anyone?
[02:28] <thoreauputic_> trevilor: because the marillat repos are commented out - but I suggest if you use marillat you use it *only* to get w32codecs and comment it out afterwards
[02:28] <seife``> where can i download the winmac stab file
[02:29] <dpupp_apache> chown? never heard of it...
[02:29] <thoreauputic_> trevilor: otherwise expect much pain and breakage
[02:29] <boerni> !w32codecs
[02:29] <trevilor> thoreauputic_, why are these codecs only covered by this unstable repo?
[02:29] <thoreauputic_> boerni: the bot is AWOL
[02:29] <dpupp_apache> silinum, i was just now reading that doc you linked :)
[02:30] <senectus> When I log into ubuntu after the GDM login I get just a brown screen (no icons or panels) and the "loading splash" never came up. Any ideas?
[02:30] <thoreauputic_> trevilor: legal reasons
[02:30] <trevilor> i see
[02:30] <william> I'm trying to use CDRecord on an IDE DVD-RW
[02:30] <trevilor> thanks for info :o)
[02:30] <selinium> dpupp_apache, you use chown to change the user,    sudo chown dpupp:root <file> to change the ownership to dpup:root
[02:30] <thoreauputic_> trevilor: the distribution of w32codecs is illegal in most places
[02:31] <dpupp_apache> selinium, so i can change the owner of all the files in my var/www/ ?
[02:31] <selinium> dpupp_apache, I have got to dash out now, but fell free to beep me about any server problems!
[02:31] <trevilor> thoreauputic_, well. i dont even know if the codecs will fix my problems on playing some XVIDs
[02:31] <meepy> When all ports except 631 (IPP) is closed, i don't have to worry about security?
[02:32] <thoreauputic_> trevilor: read wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:32] <davix> how can I burn mp3s straight to audio cd?
[02:32] <davix> is there a program that handles it?
[02:32] <trevilor> thoreauputic_, thanks
[02:33] <gnomefreak> in general is there another meta package to compile a source other than build-essential?
[02:33] <eswar> hi
[02:33] <selinium> dpupp_apache, yes, if you want to you can use the recurse flag -R again.   sudo chown -R <user>:<user> /path/to/folder    where <user> is the users name. try it without the -R flag on a file and right click and view properties! :)
[02:33] <thoreauputic_> meepy: port 631 should not be open to the internet - your local network is OK of course
[02:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> gnomefreak: not afaik
[02:34] <gnomefreak> ok ty Kamping_Kaiser
[02:34] <meepy> Its <IP_ADDRESS> as source, and <IP_ADDRESS> as destenation, so that should be fine?
[02:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> gnomefreak: why do you ask?
[02:34] <thoreauputic_> meepy: yes of course - that's just your machine loopback
[02:34] <meepy> :)
[02:35] <gnomefreak> i have to compile links2 again since windows install wrote over ubuntu so im getting it back to my likeing
[02:35] <meepy> Fuck windows, I so much like Linux rather than Windows, going to wipe my windows partition later :)
[02:35] <uykucu> hi
[02:35] <thoreauputic_> meepy: language ;-)
[02:35] <meepy> Sorry. :)
[02:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> meepy: a noble sentiment, but avoid swearing ;)
[02:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:35] <uykucu> I not have source.list
[02:36] <uykucu> hoary for source.list
[02:36] <meepy> I regret I paid for my windows key :/
[02:36] <dpupp_apache> :( all files in /var/www/ say "the permissions of filenamehere.htm could not be determined.
[02:36] <lucaas> uykucu, in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[02:36] <selinium> meepy, indeed! But we have some very young users in here sometimes! :)
[02:36] <meepy> :)
[02:36] <selinium> meepy, I will never go back to Windows....
[02:36] <selinium> :)
[02:37] <uykucu> :) I know but
[02:37] <meepy> Me either, I installed Linux for the first time 1 week ago, and since I haven't booted Windows
[02:37] <dpupp_apache> mm im going to test creating a doc from scratch and putting it in the folder to see if it has to do with anything...
[02:38] <Paul^> i want to install ubuntu on my working pc, next to windows, because i still use windows too much, but i only have 1 hd and i don't have experience with partitioning. is it possible to create an extra partition using partition magic or something and then install ubuntu on that?
[02:38] <selinium> dpupp_apache, good idea, I think maybe you have changed user names between your boxes?
[02:38] <johndarkhorse> meepy: let us respect others in here, please
[02:38] <meepy> What do you mean by that?
[02:39] <johndarkhorse> meepy: not everyone would like to learn english vulgarities
[02:39] <meepy> Excuse me?
[02:39] <dpupp_apache> well, selenium, what happened was, my ubuntu box, i messed something up in the xorg.conf... i could not figure it out, so i backed my data, and re formated and installed... then copied the data back...
[02:39] <thoreauputic_> johndarkhorse: he's already apologised
[02:39] <selinium> johndarkhorse, meepy has already apologised.. :)
[02:39] <selinium> thoreauputic_, you still type quicker then me!
[02:40] <william> I need a simple, userfriendly CD burner that works with ISOs in Linux.
[02:40] <dpupp_apache> !! now i cant get access to the folder /var/www/
[02:40] <thoreauputic_> selinium: no I type slower but I think faster *grin*
[02:40] <johndarkhorse> Seveas: seems if it's not one bot, it's another, lol
[02:40] <dpupp_apache> bash: cd: /var/www: Permission denied
[02:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> william: nautilus?
[02:40] <selinium> thoreauputic_, Sadlt i think both is the case!
[02:40] <william> How do I get it to work with ISOs?
[02:40] <william> I don't see the option.
[02:40] <selinium> dpupp_apache, pm?
[02:41] <dpupp_apache> what is pm?
[02:41] <meepy> Private Msg.
[02:41] <meepy> Query
[02:41] <selinium> dpupp_apache, private message,
[02:41] <dpupp_apache> ah! my bad.. i thought it was an option.
[02:41] <dpupp_apache> LAMO!
[02:41] <dpupp_apache> sure
[02:41] <senectus> What is "AGP fast write" and is it safe to use it under Linux (nVidia card)
[02:41] <dpupp_apache> selinium, sure
[02:41] <Paul^> senectus: depends on what card you have
[02:42] <senectus> Paul^, geforce 6600GT AGP
[02:42] <Paul^> senectus: ahh no problem then
[02:42] <selinium> dpupp_apache, Damn, i have just been called out for lunch. If you are still having troubles when I get back I am all yours.
[02:42] <dpupp_apache> ok. i'll be here.
[02:42] <selinium> :)
[02:43] <senectus> Paul^, ok next quetion :-) What is "AGP 3.0 calibration cycle" ??
[02:43] <william> Fast write might make it faster, but it generaly makes it more unstable.
[02:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> dpupp_apache: could i help?
[02:43] <senectus> william, oh
[02:43] <william> Doesn't do much
[02:43] <T-One> I have a little connection problem that I need a hand with:
[02:43] <dpupp_apache> Kamping_Kaiser, feel free :)
[02:43] <Paul^> senectus: heh, i have now idea to be honest, i'm not that much of an expert with vga cards.
[02:43] <T-One> I am remoted into my home network, and I have a ubuntu box I'm in the process of configuring
[02:44] <dpupp_apache> Kamping_Kaiser, ok, heres where im at so far
[02:44] <T-One> I forgot to restart ssh, and I haven't done the GMD>VNC setup yet.
[02:44] <senectus> Paul^, oh well.. thanks anyhow.. btw, you any sort of an expert with Gnome ? :-)
[02:44] <dpupp_apache> Kamping_Kaiser, apache2 is installed, files have been copied to the /var/www/ however, i can not enter the folder /var/www/ .. i can enter /var/ but not www. i dont have permittion anymore.
[02:44] <T-One> but I DID manage to setup XDMCP...is there a way I can get a login on this system?
[02:45] <Paul^> senectus: is this of any help? http://www.rojakpot.com/default.aspx?location=8&var1=0&var2=294
[02:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> dpupp_apache: can you run `ls -dlh /var/www` for me?
[02:45] <dpupp_apache> drw-r--r--  3 root root 4.0K 2005-12-10 07:38 /var/www
[02:45] <thoreauputic_> T-One: XDMCP without encryption would be very insecure I think...
[02:45] <Paul^> senectus: and no, i don't know much about gnome, i've installed linux once on this pc and it was a nightmare because the disk was screwed, so the only real experience with linux that i have is with bash
[02:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> dpupp_apache: run `sudo chmod 755 /var/www`
[02:45] <dpupp_apache> nautilius can not determine what permisions are set by rt clicking and getting permision info.
[02:46] <senectus> Paul^, oh.. ok thanks anyhow :-)
[02:46] <dpupp_apache>  ok, now i can enter the www folder.
[02:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> dpupp_apache: lets stick to a terminal for the moment
[02:46] <T-One> threauputic_: doesn't matter to me...its inside my firewall. I'm ssh'ed into another server on the subnet...just not the one I want to finish configuring
[02:46] <Paul^> :)
[02:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> dpupp_apache: good :) and you need to be able to write to it?
[02:46] <dpupp_apache> and files are not visible! :)
[02:46] <dpupp_apache> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[02:46] <dpupp_apache> err! now*
[02:46] <thoreauputic_> T-One: ah I see
[02:46] <dpupp_apache> i meant to say now visible :)
[02:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> whos the chick?
[02:47] <dpupp_apache> kamping kaiser, what permision is 755 ?
[02:47] <Paul^> i'm trying to install ubuntu on my work pc, but i have no experience with partitioning and i want to install it on a separate partition of my windows disk. anyone have any pointers?
[02:47] <T-One> thoreauputic_: can I forward a port to it and use Hummingbird to get an X login?
[02:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> dpupp_apache: root can read/write/execute. root group and other can both only read/execute
[02:48] <dpupp_apache> is it ok to have execute?
[02:48] <thoreauputic_> T-One: I don't know , sorry - maybe someone else can help
[02:48] <poningru> Paul^: yeah you can use something called the partition magic but that will cost you money
[02:48] <poningru> do you have a cd burner?
[02:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> dpupp_apache: you need execute on a directory to be able to open it
[02:48] <johndarkhorse> Paul^: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[02:48] <T-One> paul^: if your disk is one full partition with Windows on it, you'll need to use Partition Magic or something to create some fress space on the drive before you can set up a new partition
[02:48] <poningru> Paul^: there are free alternatives
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> dpupp_apache: files should not usualy have execute
[02:49] <Paul^> poningru: yes, but i have partition magic. the only thing is i don't know how to install ubuntu on it afterwards. i've always chosen autopartition before
[02:49] <johndarkhorse> Paul^: the installer can resize your windows partition safely
[02:49] <dpupp_apache> Kamping_kaiser, ah, i see.
[02:49] <dpupp_apache> Thanks a million! this was really puzzling me.
[02:49] <thoreauputic_> Paul^: all ubuntu needs is free space
[02:49] <T-One> johndarkhorse: really? Didn't know that...(you learn something new every day!)
[02:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> dpupp_apache: no worries, that's why i set all users home directories to chmod 701
[02:50] <Paul^> poningru: i want to be sure i do it right, or else i'll erase ~20 gb of important files :/
[02:50] <j813> Hi, anyone know what's the difference of the DVD installer from the CD?
[02:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> dpupp_apache: so apache can go into the ~/public_html directory in the users home.
[02:50] <poningru> Paul^: I would say first backup your data because I dont like taking risks
[02:50] <johndarkhorse> j813: the dvd has a live and install image on it, (plus a bit more software)
[02:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> in this case you got tripped up by /var/www, not /home/username/public_html :)
[02:50] <T-One> so does anyone here know how to do a XDMCP connection using hummingbird?
[02:51] <imc1> Hey, what's the story with an ubuntu Firefox 1.5 is it out and I missed it?
[02:51] <T-One> imc1: you can install by hand...it's on the WIKI
[02:51] <imc1> Okay thanks T-One
[02:51] <poningru> Paul^: then shrink your windows ntfs partition
[02:51] <j813> johndarkhorse: does it have all the plug-ins too, multimedia, any link page for info? Thanks
[02:51] <Paul^> poningru: me neither, but backup is not an option right now, i'm kind of short on money. i've already backuped the most important files
[02:51] <avalost> anyone know what plugin I need to play .wv files in BMP?
[02:51] <poningru> Paul^: ah ic
[02:51] <T-One> avalost: I'm thinking w32codecs...
[02:51] <poningru> yeah it should work pretty well
[02:51] <T-One> and mplayer
[02:52] <avalost> T-One, it's audio not movie
[02:52] <poningru> Paul^: just shrink your partition and leave the rest empty
[02:52] <T-One> oh. then I dunno...I just installed the kitchen sink and let it go from there
[02:52] <Paul^> poningru: and then what do i do in the ubuntu installer?
[02:52] <gnomefreak> avalost, mplayer if i am not mistaken plays either
[02:52] <qt2> so... i'm getting this error when trying to configure nvidia-glx: "Error: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 or /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum are missing from your system. Please be sure that your xserver package is installed correctly." anyone have any ideas as to what could be causing it?
[02:52] <T-One> brb
[02:52] <Paul^> poningru: that's the hard part for me, creating partitions in windows is no problem
[02:52] <poningru> when you install ubuntu it will detect the empty partition
[02:53] <thoreauputic_> avalost: seveas has a wma plugin for beep in his repo - unfortunately I'm not sure of the URL but I think it's  seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:53] <thoreauputic_> from memory
[02:53] <johndarkhorse> Paul^: you can choose to have the installer shrink your windows partition as part of the install process
[02:53] <poningru> you can just install it on there
[02:53] <poningru> hold on there is a good video tutorial for this
[02:53] <gnask> Anyone know how to make TV-Out work, nvidiabased graphicscard..
[02:53] <avalost> thanks thoreauputic_
[02:53] <gnask> Or how to setup..
[02:54] <thoreauputic_> avalost: that loks to be right - and you're welcome
[02:54] <thoreauputic_> :)
[02:54] <poningru> Paul^: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=
[02:54] <poningru> Paul^: that thing is pretty good
[02:55] <poningru> Paul^: they use the ubuntu dvd as opposed to the cd but that shouldnt matter
[02:55] <poningru> Paul^: skip to around 6 mins
[02:56] <Paul^> poningru: thx, i'll watch it
[02:56] <poningru> imc1: did you get your answer dude?
[02:56] <poningru> !tell imc1 about firefox1.5
[02:57] <poningru> wtf
[02:57] <poningru> where is ubotu?
[02:57] <johndarkhorse> ubotu got whacked last night
[02:57] <thoreauputic> poningru: no one knows :)
[02:57] <yatesy> it died this morning
[02:57] <HymnToLife> R.I.P ubotu :p
[02:57] <seife``> Anyone knows another extra repositories host? (not mirrormax.net)
[02:58] <seife``> mirrormax.net tells me 404 not found
[02:58] <scapor> I'd like to use the binary ATI drivers .. so I need to unload the agpgart and intel_agp modules and load the fglrx one .. but I can't seem to unload the first 2 because they are in use .. how do I do thi ?
[02:58] <thoreauputic> poor ubotu, I knew him well - a fellow of infinite jest...
[02:58] <_jason> seife``, ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic

[02:58] <HymnToLife> scapor > kil X (ctrl+alt+bakspae)
[02:58] <gnomefreak> he used to make fun of me but i still liked him he was smart :(
[02:58] <HymnToLife> backspace*
[02:58] <scapor> HymnToLife: then it's still in use
[02:59] <Sebast> Hi there I need help
[02:59] <HymnToLife> reboot then ?
[02:59] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: are you smoking crack, gnomefreak ? *g*
[02:59] <scapor> HymnToLife: I even tried at single-user-runlevel
[02:59] <_jason> lol
[02:59] <gnomefreak> lol yep thoreauputic  that was his fav. line for me
[02:59] <scapor> HymnToLife: still no succes
[02:59] <HymnToLife> funny...
[02:59] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: I got hit by a windmill a few times ;)
[03:00] <gnomefreak> Sebast,  ask and you shall recieve hopefully
[03:00] <Sebast> what a joke.  I got rid of Headge hog formatted and put on latest Ubuntu Beaver.  the other day.  and a load of programs with Add or remove programs thing.  now I am trying to open teh shell and well I carn't.  If I go applicaitons system tools terminal and press that. well  I get a error message.  and the tool tip says that is some termianl emulater
[03:00] <gnomefreak> me too thoreauputic
[03:00] <gnomefreak> beaver?
[03:01] <Sebast> yes I mean latest version of Ubuntu whatever it is called.
[03:01] <johndarkhorse> gnomefreak: you know, bulemic beaver
[03:01] <thoreauputic> Sebast: same here - try looking in acessories
[03:01] <gnomefreak> Sebast,  use the terminal in applications>accesoriesd
[03:01] <thoreauputic> *accessories
[03:01] <omeg> Hi everybody.  But I'll try the sudo command next.
[03:03] <thoreauputic> poningru: well - odd, since killing X should restart gdm if itwas running
[03:03] <gnomefreak> was xterm the one with the S in it?
[03:03] <ernie_> hello, does anyone else have the problem of constantly being disconnected when attempting apt-get installs?
[03:03] <gnomefreak> nope sorry ernie :(
[03:03] <HymnToLife> ernie_ > dialup ?
[03:03] <omeg> On a 400 MHz laptop with 128 MB RAM, Warty is actually usable on a Live CD (Breezy isn't, as there is about a minute lag before _anything_ happens).
[03:03] <ernie_> I am on cable
[03:03] <Sebast> now I want some more help.  I was in the other channel.  just now. a nd well I am after GUI's to use instead of Gnome or KDE etc.
[03:03] <HymnToLife> that's odd
[03:04] <thoreauputic> ernie_: I just get disconnected all the time regardless - I think the Net is sick today :)
[03:04] <freysteinn> I just set up my first install of Ubuntu, but I don't get 3D acceleration. I noticed that DRI becomes disabled with out an explanation. I'm using a ATI Radeon card. Any Ideas?
[03:04] <ernie_> my room-mates windows box works great
[03:04] <senectus> When I log into ubuntu after the GDM login I get just a brown screen (no icons or panels) and the "loading splash" never came up. Any ideas?
[03:04] <Sebast> I was told to put this command in the shell.  apt-cache search window |grep manager  and it comes up with a load of them in a list.  is there a way to just install them with shell?  or I can use add or remove programs thing or what?
[03:04] <HymnToLife> freysteinn > get a nvidia card
[03:05] <thoreauputic> Sebast: sudo apt-get install <package>
[03:05] <freysteinn> HymnToLife, I have a notebook.
[03:05] <poningru> Sebast: what are you trying to do?
[03:05] <senectus> freysteinn, there are some really good howto's for ATI on the ubuntu forum....
[03:05] <poningru> Sebast: you know about synaptic right?
[03:05] <thoreauputic> Sebast: for any value of package you find with the apt-cache search
[03:06] <Sebast> I want to install loads of GUI's so I have choice :)  and don't have to use Gnome or KDE.  not even instaled Kbuntu on the new Ubuntu, but had on old
[03:06] <freysteinn> senectus, as this is my first time using Ubutu, could you give me a link?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> apt-get and synaptic will install same packages
[03:06] <thoreauputic> Sebast:  http://xwinman.org  :)
[03:06] <Sebast> what's that?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> Sebast, try xubuntu-desktop :)
[03:06] <poningru> Sebast: search for desktop
[03:06] <thoreauputic> Sebast: most of them are in synaptic/apt
[03:07] <poningru> apt-cache search desktop
[03:07] <Sebast> you mean package installer?
[03:07] <gnomefreak> xubuntu=xfce desktop meta package :)
[03:07] <thoreauputic> Sebast: xwinman.org has lists of X window managers
[03:07] <Sebast> cheers I used Fluxbox beofre on my old Ubuntu before I formatted
[03:07] <ernie_> so far i have apt-get installed XFCE, VLC, and few other small programs.  the problem is it seems to take way longer than it should.    I was like wow the graphics, but then I Reolized I coudn't just customize things to how I wanted
[03:08] <seife``> help
[03:08] <ernie_> Sebast- I installed XFCE earlier today and it seems to be running pretty smoothly so far
[03:08] <senectus> freysteinn, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584 is one
[03:08] <dr_willis> Common Desktop Enviroment - a comercial DE - developed by.. Hmmm..  forget...
[03:09] <bshumate> gnomefreak: CDE is an old windowing system used by Sun Solaris
[03:09] <thoreauputic> seife``: have you read wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?
[03:09] <dr_willis> XFCE sort of trys to clone CDE I do belive
[03:09] <senectus> freysteinn, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75378& anither one.. btw what model is the ati card?
[03:09] <mjr> dr_willis, that was its original goal, but it's expanded somewhat
[03:09] <seife``> thoreauputic, no
[03:09] <ernie_> has anyone compared Opera performance on ubuntu vs firefox?
[03:09] <gnomefreak> so its pretty similar to xfce?
[03:10] <freysteinn> senectus, Radeon Mobile M6
[03:10] <thoreauputic> seife``: *cough* that was kind of a hint
[03:10] <dr_willis> mjr,  yea.. and "WindowMaker" sort of Cloned + expanede the NeXtStep system. (i hear)
[03:10] <dr_willis> gnomefreak,  yes.
[03:10] <Hynes> Hey, is anyone around that can help with some GL stuff?
[03:10] <omeg> Hmm
[03:10] <dr_willis> "Window Managers for X" -->  http://xwinman.org/
[03:10] <seife``> man ubuntu is like so complex
[03:10] <seife``> sigh
[03:10] <dr_willis> seife``,  never noticed. :P
[03:10] <senectus> freysteinn, heh.. this is what your after then
[03:10] <gnomefreak> <<lookjing for one i havent used but needs a menu :(
[03:10] <senectus> freysteinn, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72391&highlight=Radeon+Mobile+M6
[03:10] <omeg> "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" doesn't seem to work
[03:10] <cold> hmm does ubuntu have the kde packages ?
[03:11] <Sebast> Ubuntu is not complex
[03:11] <ryanpg> hi, anyone able to explain the differences between bogofilter and spamassassin and which is better for use with evolution?
[03:11] <omeg> It does say that it stops gnome display manager but it doesn't put me in a text-only console
[03:11] <dr_willis> cold,  " kubuntu-desktop " is the kde setup.
[03:11] <gnomefreak> Dr_willis im there thats were i saw cde
[03:11] <thoreauputic> seife``: no it isn't - just read a bit - also try  wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[03:11] <Sebast> Ubuntu is nearlly ready for the average computer user, but not just yet
[03:11] <cold> dr_willis i have the regular ubuntu
[03:11] <Pygi> Sebast: hehe
[03:11] <dr_willis> Avergage computer users - are... well... often Idiots. :P
[03:11] <Sebast> yeah indeede
[03:11] <Hynes> Ever since I isntalled ATi drivers, "libGL.so.1" is broken, and I can't listen to music beacause apparently, this file doesn't exist.  Does anyone have anyidea how to get gnome back up and running :-(
[03:12] <dr_willis> thoreauputic,  i think its more they are just idiots.. people dont even bother to try to learn windows any more. :P
[03:12] <Hynes> Ever since I isntalled ATi drivers, "libGL.so.1" is broken, and I can't listen to music beacause apparently, this file doesn't exist. Any ideas?
[03:12] <thoreauputic> seife``: language, please
[03:12] <bshumate> Hynes: libGL should not have anything to do with listening to music
[03:12] <Hynes> mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:13] <dr_willis> senectus,  what video card and processor?
[03:13] <Hynes> That's with an mp3 as argument.
[03:13] <thoreauputic> dr_willis: true enough
[03:13] <ryanpg> seife, imagine you had never used windows your whole life and one day decided to try it... it would seem just as strange :)
[03:13] <Pygi> Hynes: well, installed codecs? :)
[03:13] <Sebast> oh eyah
[03:13] <Sebast> oh yeah I put some software on Ubuntu the other day
[03:13] <Sebast> to play DVD's or something
[03:13] <Hynes> Yeah all my music was working 100%. Then I installed ATi drivers.
[03:13] <Hynes> And now it's broken.
[03:13] <Sebast> however I don't know carn't play DVD's at the moment :(
[03:13] <dr_willis> installed them with synaptic? or with ATI's installer script?
[03:14] <Hynes> I installed the file off ATi.com.
[03:14] <senectus> dr_willis, Nvidia gforce 6600GT and brand new AMD 64 3200+ in 32 bit mode
[03:14] <freysteinn> senectus, thanks.
[03:14] <Hynes> Converted from rpm into .deb and installed it.
[03:14] <senectus> freysteinn, np mate :-)
[03:14] <Pygi> Hynes: heh
[03:14] <Hynes> What package is libGL.so.1 a part of?
[03:14] <dr_willis> senectus,  about the system I got.  even.. 6800 here.  similer cpu.
[03:14] <Hynes> I'll re-install the package.
[03:15] <omeg> Does anybody know how to kill x in warty?
[03:15] <omeg> In the terminal?
[03:15] <dr_willis> senectus,  you installed the Nvivia drivers yet?
[03:15] <dr_willis> omeg,  kill/stop the gdm service
[03:15] <thoreauputic> omeg:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:15] <senectus> dr_willis, yeah.. the ones in the ubuntu repository
[03:15] <omeg> That didn't put me in a text-only terminal, thoreauputic
[03:16] <thoreauputic> omeg: it should have
[03:16] <dr_willis> senectus,  odd. - those thing work fine for hundreeds of people.
[03:16] <omeg> It did say that it killed gnome, but I'm still in the gnome environment with the same terminal window open.
[03:16] <thoreauputic> omeg: are you sure you typed it right?
[03:16] <ernie_> Anyone use Ubuntu to play games like WoW in here?  Wondering how they found the performance
[03:16] <jojko> hoj
[03:16] <omeg> Yeah, I'm sure
[03:16] <jojko> je tu niejaky slovak
[03:16] <dr_willis> ernie_,  with 'Cedega' - there are issues. :(
[03:16] <Sebast> No, but you can use Camega might of spelt that wrong uhmmmm WInex to get games like that working
[03:16] <omeg> It said "GNOME display manager is not running" after saying that it was going to kill its process
[03:16] <Sebast> Cadega
[03:16] <johndarkhorse> omeg: you need bum "boot up manager" it's in the repos
[03:17] <senectus> dr_willis, yeah they worked fine for me up till today when i had to replace my motherboard and CPU cause my old CPU got cooked :-/
[03:17] <thoreauputic> omeg: did you log on from the gdm login screen ?
[03:17] <dr_willis> senectus,  eww... perhaps reinstall them.
[03:17] <ernie_> do u know if game performance is as fast as windows ?
[03:17] <gnomefreak> what is the command to change the version of java is being used?
[03:17] <omeg> thoreauputic: it's a Warty Live CD, it just booted without asking me anything.
[03:17] <Sebast> depends on the hardware and that i guess
[03:17] <thoreauputic> omeg: ah, that's different then - dunno
[03:18] <johndarkhorse> gnomefreak: update-alternatives --java, iirc
[03:18] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak:  update-alternatives --config java
[03:18] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[03:18] <senectus> dr_willis, anyidea on how to uninstall from the cmd line?
[03:18] <jdier_> can anyone tell me where I configure aterm or xterm to enable transparency?
[03:19] <dr_willis> senectus,  apt-get remove whatever (i think)     or theres a way to make apt-get reinstall.
[03:19] <thoreauputic> omeg: sudo init 1  might do it - but it would kill networking too
[03:19] <dr_willis> jdier_,  xterm, cant.. rxvt can - i belive
[03:19] <dr_willis> aterm - not sure :P
[03:19] <avalost> hmm, seems bmp does not recognize the .wv media
[03:19] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get remove --purge <packagename> also works well :)
[03:19] <thoreauputic> jdier_: xterm doesn't do transparency - aterm you can use options like aterm -tr
[03:20] <ernie_> is there a cmd to make apt-get install, reconnect automagicly?
[03:20] <avalost> what is a good encoder/decoder to convert wv to .ogg or mp3?
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> ernie_: installing or downloading?
[03:20] <thoreauputic> jdier_: the options are in the man page
[03:20] <ernie_> installing
[03:20] <Sebast> thanks for the help, but I am leaving this channel now
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> ernie_: just re run it, it should pick up
[03:21] <jdier_> thoreauputic - I can figure out how to launch with transparency using arguments, I want to change my session setting or config so an $aterm command with no argument launches a transparent window
[03:21] <thoreauputic> avalost: do you mean wav or wma ? What is wv ?
[03:21] <avalost> it's a lossless audio format
[03:21] <avalost> .wv
[03:22] <thoreauputic> jdier_: .Xdefaults or something like that (can't remeber exactly) Or use an alias
[03:22] <johndarkhorse> avalost: you'll probably have better luck going to the homepage of .wv
[03:22] <dr_willis> jdier_,  make an script called "transparent-term"  with 'aterm -tr'  in it.  and set the default terminal launcher to launch that :  is one way
[03:22] <senectus> is there some way to list all installed packages with nvidia in the name/description?
[03:22] <paperinik> Ciao Ho dei problemi con il modem isdn quando vado per aggiungere la periferica con  isdnctrl addif ippp0 mi da:     Can't open /dev/isdninfo or /dev/isdn/isdninfo: No such file or directory cosa devo fare?? vi ringrazio
[03:23] <Talky> is there any HSF Modem driver available for ubuntu?
[03:23] <thoreauputic> senectus: dpkg -l *nvidia* and look for ii
[03:23] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-it
[03:23] <jdier_> dr_willis - thanks.  I have that running.  Trying to do it at the config level.  I know I did it with my old fluxbox set up
[03:23] <bshumate> jdier_ look here for .Xdefaults method: http://linuxreviews.org/software/x11-terms/aterm/
[03:23] <ernie_> kamping: for example I "sudo apt-get install lynx" after maybe 5 percent it says "connection timed out" and tells me what it was unable to fetch, then goes back to  the cmd propt
[03:23] <johndarkhorse> !it
[03:23] <ernie_> oops prompt
[03:23] <johndarkhorse> dangit! /me will have to set up a script for when ubotu isnt here
[03:23] <gnomefreak> johndarkhorse, ubotu is down
[03:23] <jdier_> In my home folder I cannot find .Xdefaults
[03:24] <bshumate> jdier_ : create it
[03:24] <gnomefreak> paperinik,  go to #ubuntu-it for italian support
[03:24] <thoreauputic> jdier_: you create it :)
[03:24] <avalost> wv is wavepack
[03:25] <jdier_> bshumate thoreaputic - I am starting to remember.  Thanks for the hints.
[03:25] <bshumate> jdier_ : stick the aterm settings in it, then log out, and back in, and they should begin to affect your aterms
[03:25] <thoreauputic> avalost: sorry originally I assumed you meant wma - I didn't know about wv
[03:26] <Paul^> ok, wish me luck :P
[03:26] <thoreauputic> Talky: what is your query then? My crystal ball is cloudy today ... *grin*
[03:27] <Talky> thoreauputic , i want to know that is there any HSF modem driver available for ubuntu?
[03:27] <LeeJunFan> is there a way to get a list of packages that have no depencies against them? ie. perhaps the apps I have uninstalled now have libs I can remove because nothing is using them.
[03:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[03:27] <marcooo> hello, i have a smaal question: i just installed gxine and libxine via synaptic and now i can play avi files, but there's no sound... I hear sounds when i click options, etc. in gnome so the problem must be with gxine or avi support.. does anybody know what the problem could be? could it be just some simple package i need to install?
[03:28] <thoreauputic> LeeJunFan: deborphan, debfoster
[03:28] <LeeJunFan> thoreauputic: thanks.
[03:29] <SuperSox> is there any way I can use gcc 3.4.5? I need it for install vmware
[03:29] <SuperSox> err installing even
[03:29] <teroedni> hello
[03:29] <marco> whats the default root password ?
[03:29] <yatesy> goatse
[03:30] <thoreauputic> marco:  please read  wiki.ubuntu.com?RootSudo
[03:30] <thoreauputic> oops   wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:31] <thoreauputic> Talky: it's possible no-one currently has your answer
[03:31] <marco> whats the password for sudo ?
[03:31] <thoreauputic> marco: your user pass
[03:31] <marcooo> does anybody have avi video+sound working?
[03:31] <marco> ok
[03:31] <thoreauputic> marco: yes
[03:32] <Talky> may be next time thoreauputic, thnx
[03:32] <teroedni> any sound gurus in here?
[03:32] <thoreauputic> marco: I recommend you read wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and do what it suggests for video etc
[03:32] <ernie_> marco did you logout?
[03:33] <manchine> i am trying to trace back ssh connections (as client) made  few days ago. both syslog and messages say nothing about the subject. where else should i look for the logs?
[03:33] <marcooo> ok thanks theoraputic
[03:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> manchine: connections you made out?
[03:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> grep ssh ~/.bash_history
[03:33] <manchine> Kamping_Kaiser: yes
[03:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> try that %
[03:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> ^
[03:34] <bshumate> manchine : /var/log/auth.log
[03:34] <bshumate> manchine: err nm- you said 'as client'
[03:34] <SuperSox> never mind, got vmware to install :)
[03:35] <thoreauputic> Talky: try  help.ubuntu.com
[03:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> 'comprehensive guide'?
[03:35] <johndarkhorse> Talky: help.ubuntu.com or the help menu in your ubuntu
[03:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol.
[03:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> *was half way through writing the same thing*
[03:36] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: seriously, no-one bothers to read the help :)
[03:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: yeh, i konw ;)
[03:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> *know
[03:36] <sabmann> they never heard of google i guess:/
[03:36] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: it's sort of like Ikea furniture - evryone tries to assemble it without looking at the instructions ;)
[03:36] <Talky> thoreauputic, i believe help isn't complied like the way it should be
[03:37] <thoreauputic> Talky: erm, sorry ?
[03:37] <theturtle> hey
[03:37] <theturtle> umm, how can i get ubuntu to play mp4-xvid?
[03:37] <theturtle> tried opening them in mplayer, no go :\
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> thoreauputic: you mean you rtfm before you install software/setup computers? rofl ;)
[03:37] <thoreauputic> Talky: if you think the help needs help, join the docs team ;-)
[03:37] <bshumate> read the manual as the *last* resort! ;-)
[03:38] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: yeah, i'm weird ;-)
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> bshumate: yes :)!
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol @thor
[03:38] <cmd> !network
[03:38] <ernie_> if I see a .deb file is there an easy way to install it?
[03:38] <augustin> hello
[03:38] <cmd> hello everyone... How do I share files between two Ubuntu systems?
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> ernie_: dpkg -i debname
[03:38] <Talky> thnx anyway thoreauputic :)
[03:39] <augustin> is it possible to burn a DVD using only one drive to read AND burn ?
[03:39] <thoreauputic> cmd: NFS, Samba, ftp, sftp .....
[03:39] <augustin> i use gnomebaker but i can install anything else that is required
[03:39] <dido`> Hi! I'm installing ubuntu right now and it asks me to create user account, but how do I set root's password
[03:39] <ernie_> kamping: does that work the same as apt-get install?
[03:39] <augustin> dido` https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:39] <dido`> thanks
[03:39] <manchine> Kamping_Kaiser: it indeed tells me the server name i have connected to, but not the IP, which is what i need to know, since dyndns has flushed my account and i can no longer access my remote box using the url