[00:06] <awe_> cyphermox, the routing looks fine to me when I boot with 3g active, or I reboot when WiFi is active
[00:07] <awe_> but 3g -> WiFi something gets hosed
[00:07] <awe_> did you determine if it's a regression?
[01:44] <Cyphermox__> awe_: I did an update in the ppa that fixes it for me


[12:52] <KGB-X> rhythmbox signed tags 3cf1363 Jeremy Bicha ubuntu/3.4.7-2ubuntu2 * Debian release 3.4.7-2ubuntu2 * https://deb.li/ULlz
[12:53] <KGB-X> rhythmbox ubuntu/latest dc54d89 Graham Inggs debian/changelog * Import Debian changes 3.4.7-2ubuntu2 * https://deb.li/37oAs
[13:11] <KGB-X> gnome-initial-setup signed tags a96922d Jeremy Bicha ubuntu/46_alpha-2ubuntu1 * gnome-initial-setup Debian release 46~alpha-2ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/3Mo1g
[13:11] <KGB-X> gnome-initial-setup ubuntu/latest e2078b4 Jeremy Bicha debian/changelog * releasing package gnome-initial-setup version 46~alpha-2ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/IoXG
[15:46] <KGB-X> gnome-control-center ubuntu/latest fea784b Jeremy Bícha debian/patches/ series ubuntu/update-manager.patch * Rename update-manager patch * https://deb.li/i7mIs
[15:46] <KGB-X> gnome-control-center ubuntu/latest d30bc43 Jeremy Bícha debian/control * Revert "Add temporary Build-Depends: libevdev to work around #1060687" * https://deb.li/3Q4v
[16:34] <KGB-X> gnome-control-center signed tags 778cf64 Jeremy Bicha ubuntu/1%46_alpha-2ubuntu2 * gnome-control-center Debian release 1:46~alpha-2ubuntu2 * https://deb.li/3l2BV
[16:34] <KGB-X> gnome-control-center ubuntu/latest d30428a Jeremy Bícha debian/control * Reapply "Add temporary Build-Depends: libevdev to work around #1060687" * https://deb.li/Gnf1
[16:34] <KGB-X> gnome-control-center ubuntu/latest 297b20f Jeremy Bícha debian/patches/ series ubuntu/Allow-tweaking-some-settings-for-Ubuntu-Dock.patch panel-list-Reorder-panel-list.patch * Cherry-pick reorder panel commit * https://deb.li/35r3N
[16:35] <KGB-X> gnome-control-center ubuntu/latest b45e687 Jeremy Bícha debian/patches/ (5 files in 2 dirs) * Update camera and microphone patch * https://deb.li/Prrc
[16:35] <KGB-X> gnome-control-center ubuntu/latest b1bb967 Jeremy Bícha debian/changelog * releasing package gnome-control-center version 1:46~alpha-2ubuntu2 * https://deb.li/3JBTy
[17:19] <KGB-X> gnome-control-center ubuntu/latest c75951a Jeremy Bícha debian/control * Revert "Add temporary Build-Depends: libevdev to work around #1060687" * https://deb.li/3VCOh


[05:16] <cpaelzer> rbasak: thanks I see v_orlon has picked it up and added his copyright experience to it - discussed in #ubuntu-release already
[14:06] <xypron> stgraber: Concerning LP #1969774  - Is there a repo with the old builds of lxd?
[14:07] <stgraber> xypron: no
[14:07] <stgraber> xypron: as I just commented (and closed the bug again), `images:` never had a riscv64 image, the error happens because you didn't specify the architecture you want, so the download logic will fallback to another architecture in such cases causing your error.
[14:09] <xypron> stgraber: snapcraft --use-lxd had been working on riscv64 and now it is broken.
[14:10] <xypron> stgraber: downloading a random architecture image is also to be considered a bug.
[14:11] <xypron> stgraber: lxc launch does not have an architecture flag
[14:11] <stgraber> xypron: lxc launch images:ubuntu/20.04/riscv64
[14:11] <stgraber> that will obviously fail as there are no such images
[14:11] <stgraber> xypron: what snap are you trying to build?
[14:18] <xypron> stgraber: https://github.com/ubuntu-core/hello-snapcraftio build fine. ok. But for the fallback from riscv64 to amd64 without any notice to the user an improvement is needed. The fallback makes no sense if lxc does not allow to run the foreign architecture and the user should be notified anyway.
[14:19] <stgraber> xypron: so hello-snapcraftio works properly? what was the snap that didn't?
[14:21] <xypron> stgraber: no I was working on gimp. But that was referencing core18 which does not support riscv64. The problem is really the missing messaging.
[14:22] <stgraber> xypron: Will have to see if there's something we can do to report an earlier error in such cases. Basically LXD treats such a request as two things 1) copy an image 2) launch from it. The image copy is never restricted to the supported architectures as otherwise it wouldn't be possible to run mixed architectures clusters or to run image servers that hold images for architectures that they
[14:22] <stgraber> don't themselves support.


[00:58] <Lns> mhall119, if you figure it out, it'd be nice to have a wiki page explaining that ;) Always wanted to mess around with XFCE
[01:16] <mhall119> Lns: sure thing
[01:17] <Lns> woohoo!
[05:45] <Ahmuck> whew, not as bad as i had thought, tested with a used power supply, switched it out and the server works
[14:52] <dgroos> Ahmuck: Great news!


[00:11] <raub> During the install process, how do I enable encryption and then setup the vg in the luks drive so I can create logical volumes?
[00:13] <raub> The install (lubuntu-20.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso) seems to want to only want to use the entire drive in one single partition. I do not want to use the entire drive right now
[13:25] <cc77> Hi guys, I want to try lubuntu but google shows me two websites where I can download it from, www.lubuntu.net and www.lubuntu.me what is the difference between both?
[13:25] <arraybolt3> Lubuntu.me is the official site.
[13:26] <arraybolt3> Lubuntu.net is a site that I believe is owned by someone who used to be part of the Lubuntu team, but who is no longer. He still has the site up, but it's badly out of date and of questionable reliability.
[13:26] <arraybolt3> Always download your Lubuntu ISOs from Lubuntu.me.
 arraybolt3: its simpler to just say lubuntu.me is the official site and the other is not legitimate ;)
 just for the future
[13:27] <arraybolt3> teward001: Got it, will do.
[13:28] <darkblueb> LUbuntu.net sounds like the official site, without knowing it
[13:28] <cc77> Ah thanks for explaining arraybolt3
[13:28] <darkblueb> "me" sounds like an imposter .. USA here
 darkblueb: thats a known problem which is why Canonical is handling the issue at a higher level
 but thats all i can say on that for now.
 (and no, its not an imposter site in this case)
[13:29] <User_666> hello can someone help me with drivers ?
[13:31] <cc77> Well teward001, not being legitimate didn´t stop my curiosity towards ubuntu.net but explaining it´s not more developed and outdated definitely stopped my interest
[17:45] <Rome3008> What are the system requirements for Lubuntu  22.04 lts
[17:47] <arraybolt3> Rome3008: I have no problem running it on an ancient Intel Celeron, 4 GB RAM, 16 GB disk space. (It's a repurposed Chromebook.)
[17:47] <Rome3008> What are the system requirements for Lubuntu 22.04 lts
[17:48] <arraybolt3> It also works with 2 GB RAM in my experience.
[17:48] <arraybolt3> (There aren't documented system requirements for Lubuntu, but it's pretty lightweight, so anything with a 64-bit CPU and 2 GB or more RAM should work.)
[17:48] <Rome3008> Can you give me the system requirements
[17:49] <Rome3008> Can i use 1 gb of RAM
[17:50] <arraybolt3> CPU: 64-bit Intel or AMD processor. RAM: 2 GB (4 GB recommended). Disk space: 16 GB (more is better). I'll test 1 GB RAM and see how it works, though you may run into Firefox problems with that little RAM.
[17:50] <Rome3008> Can it run on ARM chips
[17:52] <arraybolt3> Rome3008: Yes, but not directly via the ISO. For that, you'll need to install Ubuntu Server, then add lubuntu-desktop on after the fact. If you're doing this on a Raspberry Pi, here's some good instructions on how to do that: https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/raspberry-pi-installation/2050
[17:53] <Rome3008> Can i run it on a vm
[17:54] <arraybolt3> Rome3008: Absolutely. In fact, Lubuntu is one of the better operating systems for use in a VM because of how lightweight it is. It's also able to run VMs, too (as is any Ubuntu flavour).
[17:55] <Rome3008> How do I add lubuntu  on top of my Ubuntu server
[17:55] <arraybolt3> It depends. Is this on a Raspberry Pi specifically, or is this on some other ARM-based system?
[17:55] <arraybolt3> If you're doing it on a Raspberry Pi, use the link I posted above for instructions.
[17:56] <Rome3008> Some other
[17:56] <arraybolt3> OK. First, you'll need to find the right version of Ubuntu Server. (I'm going to be posting several messages, so don't worry, I'm not leaving you behind with just one message.)
[17:57] <Rome3008> I use Ubuntu 22.04 lts server
[17:57] <arraybolt3> Here, let's make this easy. What system are you doing the ARM installation on? (ARM systems can be tricky, since they may need a specific customized version of Ubuntu just for one particular ARM system.)
[17:58] <Rome3008> Arm A53 chipset
[17:58] <arraybolt3> Yeah, but is it an Orange Pi? Or a Solidrun lx2 Honeycomb? Or...?
[17:59] <arraybolt3> Or is it a homebrew system put together that happens to be using an ARM CPU?
[17:59] <Rome3008> Snapdragon
[17:59] <Rome3008> Chipset
[17:59] <arraybolt3> The chipset doesn't help me. I need the model of the actual computer, or I need to know if there isn't a model at all.
[18:00] <Rome3008> I 'M re using an old phone
[18:00] <Rome3008> Running an arm chip
[18:01] <arraybolt3> Rome3008: Ah. That is very important to know. Phones can be tricky to do this sort of thing on. You do have an alternate phone in the event something goes wrong during your installation process, right?
[18:01] <Rome3008> No
[18:02] <Rome3008> This is my only one
[18:02] <Rome3008> Why can Some thing go wrong
[18:02] <arraybolt3> OK. You should be aware that phones generally do not take it well if something gets messed up - one wrong command could brick the phone with no easy way to fix it. If you're really, really sure you want to continue, and understand the risks, I'll give you a link, but otherwise, I wouldn't risk it. Things can go very wrong doing this.
[18:03] <arraybolt3> Yes, things can go wrong, and if they go wrong, they can go very wrong.
[18:03] <Rome3008> Ok
[18:04] <Rome3008> Can i use wine to run virtual box
[18:04] <Rome3008> On android
 No
 You can not
[18:04] <arraybolt3> VirtualBox doesn't work on ARM chips, sadly.
[18:04] <Rome3008> But wine exists on android
 And even on Android x86 devices, it won't run on wine
[18:05] <arraybolt3> If you really want to run a VM, and are OK with it being painfully slow, you can use the Termux app, and install qemu into it. However, with your phone's specs, only things like FreeDOS should be run on it, since even things like Lubuntu are likely to be too much.
[18:06] <arraybolt3> (VirtualBox is for x86 chips like Intel and AMD. x86 and ARM chips are not compatible with each other's software.)
[18:06] <Rome3008> I can't use wine on android to run virtualbox
[18:06] <arraybolt3> (QEMU works for ARM, but it's slow unless KVM acceleration is available, and phones generally don't give you access to that. No, you can't use wine on android to run virtualbox. But you can use QEMU on Termux to do sorta the same thing.)
[18:07] <Rome3008> But I only have 1.5GB of ram on my android phone
[18:09] <arraybolt3> While Lubuntu appears to be able to cope with 1 GB RAM, it's your processor speed that's going to be the problem - unaccelerated QEMU is painfully slow even on my somewhat fast Intel workstation. It's going to be much worse on a phone, so much so that Lubuntu isn't going to be very usable in that setup. And there's no way to get a faster VM on a phone that I'm aware of.
[18:09] <arraybolt3> However, if you want to run VMs on a phone just for the sake of it, FreeDOS might really work in that setup, which would give you an interesting system to play around with.
[18:10] <Rome3008> Can i unlock the boot loader and flash Ubuntu server on it
[18:11] <arraybolt3> Possibly, but that's where things get really dangerous. If you had a second phone, this might be an interesting experiment, but as it is, if this is your only phone, you're playing with fire.
[18:12] <Rome3008> What are the possible outcomes
[18:13] <Rome3008> I have to go but thank you for helping
[18:13] <arraybolt3> A bricked phone. As in, won't turn on, won't let you do anything, and can't be fixed so that it will turn back on without taking the phone apart and using highly specialized equipment to fix it at the hardware level. (Phones are scary with this stuff.)
[18:13] <arraybolt3> Yeah, sure. Sorry to be sorta dissapointing.
[18:14] <Rome3008> Hey I have an idea
[18:14] <Rome3008> Let's team up
[18:14] <Rome3008> And do it together
[18:14] <Rome3008> You can contact me on Instagram
[18:15] <Rome3008> @ Tin_Man_Kwt
[18:15] <arraybolt3> Sorry, I don't have Instagram.
[18:15] <Rome3008> What do you have
[18:15] <Rome3008> Email
[18:15] <arraybolt3> Yeah, I have email. I'll direct-message you with it, so it's not exposed here.
[18:16] <Rome3008> Where should I go to see direct messages
[18:18] <arraybolt3> It should have popped up in your IRC client. What client are you using? The web chat?
[18:18] <Rome3008> Yes web chat
[18:19] <arraybolt3> Look in the side bar over on the left-hand side of the screen. My username should be in there.


[00:30] <Doyle_> Hey, is there a way to connect to powershell from linux?
[03:09] <ikhwan_cupu> haloo
[03:10] <ikhwan_cupu> my acer laptop use ubuntu 12.10....the bluetooth always ON & i cant to off
[04:16] <Aethysius> Is 156 F too hot for a processor?
[05:01] <tsimpson> Aethysius: that's around 70C, I wouldn't be concerned until it starts to get around 80-90C ~180F
[05:02] <tsimpson> most systems will automatically shut down if the temperature gets dangerous, mine is apparently set to do that at 100C
[05:06] <Aethysius> Really?
[05:07] <Aethysius> What about GPUs and mobos?
[05:07] <tsimpson> they're similar
[05:08] <tsimpson> computers can handle rather high internal temperatures, as long as it's not for too long (hours) and they have a chance to cool off
[05:10] <tsimpson> C/GPU chips will be the most sensitive and will probably cut-off somewhere above 100C, the rest of the system can probably take 30-50C more without approaching danger point
[05:11] <tsimpson> and most (modern) systems have built-in trip points to trigger an emergency shutdown before then
[05:13] <Aethysius> How do I make myself root in the GUI?
[05:30] <Aethysius> How do I make myself root in the GUI?
[05:30] <valorie> where in the gui, Aethysius?
[05:31] <Unit193> !kdesu
[05:31] <valorie> in general you can use kdesudo to run a gui application
[05:31] <valorie> but most guis where you need to be root will present you with a dialog asking for your password
[05:33] <lordievader> Aethysius: What do you need to run as root?
[05:50] <Aethysius> Thanks, y'all.
[10:48] <Guest39910> hello
[10:49] <Guest39910> hello
[10:52] <emil_> Auuu :(
[11:32] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:33] <FlowRiser> BluesKaj, mornin`
[11:33] <BluesKaj> hey FlowRiser
[11:34] <FlowRiser> BluesKaj, i`m having some problems with kde behaving properly with unity also installed
[11:34] <FlowRiser> sometimes, the desktop background changes to the one unity has O.o
[11:35] <BluesKaj> what kind of problems , FlowRiser?
[11:35] <FlowRiser> And it happens at random moments
[11:35] <BluesKaj> what about the panel etc
[11:36] <BluesKaj> just the baqckground , like wallpaper ?
[11:36] <FlowRiser> yes
[11:37] <BluesKaj> you might have the unity screensaver enabled in kde
[11:38] <FlowRiser> BluesKaj, ohhh, have not thought of that .... indeed, i have the unity screensaver enabled in kde; That explains lot of weird things happening on my installation xD
[11:52] <AceKing> Can someone help me with a choppy sound problem? I'm running 13.04 64 bit. Everytime I play something with sound, it's choppy, and pops from low to loud
[11:56] <FlowRiser> AceKing, did you try updating your kernel ? mine is 3.8.0-25-generic
[11:57] <AceKing> FlowRiser: I just installed, and did all updates
[12:00] <FlowRiser> AceKing, are you running pulseaudio ? if so, have you tried messing with its properties in the default manager ?
[12:00] <AceKing> FlowRiser: I haven't touched anything yet. I'm running it from a fresh install
[12:02] <FlowRiser> AceKing, i suggest before doing anything else that you install the pulseaudio manager and try setting the server up so that your primary device is the one you want
[12:02] <FlowRiser> AceKing, if that does not work, then you have a driver issue
[12:03] <AceKing> FlowRiser: Will do.. Do I need to uninstall anything before I install pulseaudio manager?
[12:05] <FlowRiser> AceKing, no, it should work out of the box
[12:06] <AceKing> FlowRiser: I see a couple to choose from in the Software Center... pulseaudio volume control, and pulseaudio preferences. Which one do I install?
[12:08] <AceKing> FlowRiser: I just went into "Package Manager" and found it
[12:10] <AceKing> FlowRiser: OK, it's installed. Do I need to restart?
[12:12] <AceKing> FlowRiser: I am going to restart and test it. Thank you for your help
[14:31] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[14:37] <kristjan> is there any video player for kubuntu where is subtitle download option?
[14:39] <genii> kristjan: You want to download the subtitle files separately?
[14:40] <kristjan> i mean when i start movie, it can find subtitles for the movie
[14:41] <genii> kristjan: Which player are you currently using for this?
[14:42] <kristjan> smplayer
[14:43] <kristjan> i think it searches subtitles only from opensubtitles.org
[14:44] <kristjan> is there any way i can add sites?
[14:48] <genii> kristjan: Apologies on lag, work is requiring much of my time right now.
[14:49] <kristjan> no problem at all
[14:55] <BluesKaj> kristjan, most players need a local file for subtitles ., vlc will use one if you find one and point vlc to it's path
[14:57] <OerHeks> And the name of the subtitle must match the movie, AFAIK
[14:58] <FOAD> Correct.
[14:59] <BluesKaj> or yeah , usually subs are included and can be enabled or disabled in vlc in the dialog that comes up just by a right click on the vlc screen
[14:59] <workingcats> (s)mplayer will use an appropriately named file automatically i think
[14:59] <BluesKaj> OerHeks,^
[14:59] <workingcats> didnt realise it has a feature to auto-search for ones from the net
[15:01] <BluesKaj> could never find a version of mplayer that fits my tv screen
[15:01] <BluesKaj> including mplayer itself
[15:07] <kristjan> when u start movie in smplayer, u can klick subtitles meny and there is find sbtitles from opensubtitles. org. That is very convenient.
[15:07] <kristjan> my question is can i add other sites to search subtitles from
[15:08] <kristjan> or is there any other player wih similar option
[15:17] <OerHeks> kristjan, did you find VLsub ? http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/vlsub-vlc-extension-to-search-and.html
[15:46] <kristjan> OerHeks where is the vlc /lua/extensions path in my computer ?
[15:46] <kristjan> sorry im newbe
[15:48] <kristjan> how can i hide join and quit messeges from this chat window?
[15:48] <kristjan> im useing quassel irc
[15:49] <OerHeks> It is not yet, you have to make that folder yourself like the page shows you >> mkdir -p ~/.local/share/vlc/lua/extensions
[15:49] <kristjan> ok
[15:49] <OerHeks> it is hidden, press alt + .  to show hidden files
[15:50] <kristjan> under where it supose to be now?
[15:51] <OerHeks> in your /home/<your name>/  folder
[15:55] <kristjan> ehh ,cant see it
[15:58] <kristjan> ok i find it under root etc vlc lua
[15:59] <kristjan> but i cant copy the files there
[16:03] <zero_coder> hello
[16:03] <SonikkuAmerica> zero_coder: Hey!
[16:03] <zero_coder> how can I set shortcut key
[16:03] <zero_coder> hi SonikkuAmerica
[16:03] <zero_coder> SonikkuAmerica  its usually dead
[16:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Head for System Settings and check inside the Keyboard section.
[16:04] <zero_coder> SonikkuAmerica : Kubuntu is totally cool . just started using today :)
[16:04] <SonikkuAmerica> :) I've used it in the past; now I use Ubuntu GNOME, but I know a lot about the other DEs.
[16:04] <zero_coder> i have been using unity
[16:05] <zero_coder> but its totally unproductive .maybe u can use it for tablets
[16:05] <zero_coder> SonikkuAmerica : I am in keyboard section
[16:05] <zero_coder> what next
[16:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Is there a "Keyboard Shortcuts" item in the menu on the left?
[16:06] <zero_coder> npoe
[16:06] <zero_coder> nope
[16:06] <BluesKaj> kristjan, play the video , right click on the screen in vlc , then the dialog should show subtitles . click on that , openfile then put the path in the addressbar at top.
[16:06] <zero_coder> SonikkuAmerica : there is something else called shortcuts and gestures
[16:08] <zero_coder> how to create a new one?
[16:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh crap... someone bail me out!
[16:10] <SonikkuAmerica> OK. Make sure "Plasma Desktop Shell" is selected from the drop-down menu, then hit "Add..." or click the + sign. (I forgot which.)
[16:11] <zero_coder> SonikkuAmerica : what is the command for launching terminal ?
[16:11] <SonikkuAmerica> zero_coder: Usually Ctrl+Alt+T
[16:11] <BluesKaj> me doesn't go near the shortcuts and gestures option , looks difficult to understand for some who almost failed 9th grade typing class :)
[16:11] <zero_coder> i mean the command not shortcut
[16:11] <zero_coder> i am trying to set it
[16:12] <zero_coder> I passed out of high school , still its difficult BluesKaj
[16:12] <SonikkuAmerica> BluesKaj: LOL!
[16:13] <zero_coder> SonikkuAmerica : what to do?
[16:14] <SonikkuAmerica> zero_coder: Or hit Alt+F2 and type "konsole" and hit ETNER
[16:14] <zero_coder> SonikkuAmerica : done
[16:14] <zero_coder> its set
[16:16] <zero_coder> SonikkuAmerica : thank you
[16:17] <SonikkuAmerica> You're welcome.
[16:18] <zero_coder> SonikkuAmerica : so what do you do for a living?
[16:21] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | zero_coder
[16:23] <zero_coder> sorry.
[16:23] <zero_coder> i didn't mean to offend anythin
[16:25] <SonikkuAmerica> zero_coder: Oh no, just part of decorum. In other Linux distro channels, it's all jumbled as people are getting support and conversing at once. Not in Debian or Ubuntu,
[16:25] <SonikkuAmerica> s/,/.
[17:44] <mbnoimi> I tried to add a new task (http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3526/lyxi.jpg) to Task Scheduler but it didn't run when the time in came... that's wrong? do I configured it wrong?
[18:00] <genii> mbnoimi: Does:  sudo ls /var/spool/cron/crontabs/       show a file there with the name of the user ?
[18:00] <mbnoimi> genii: is shows my user name
[18:01] <genii> mbnoimi: Please use a pastebin to show the result of:   grep vlc /var/log/auth.log
[18:02] <genii> If no result for the command, let us know that too.
[18:02] <mbnoimi> genii: no need to pastebin... it shows nothing!
[18:02] <genii> OK.
[18:06] <genii> mbnoimi: What is result of: crontab -l
[18:13] <mbnoimi> genii: http://pastebin.com/qF0ep4g9
[18:15] <genii> mbnoimi: OK, that looks fine. I would suggest to put the full path for vlc in the Task Scheduler, like: /usr/bin/vlc     ...instead of just vlc
[18:17] <mbnoimi> genii: I did that... I may need to wait to see what if this will work within the coming 3min
[18:17]  * genii makes more coffee and settles in
[18:18] <mbnoimi> genii: :)
[18:20] <mbnoimi> genii: didn't work :(
[18:21] <genii> Bleh.
[18:23] <mbnoimi> genii: by the way, recollindex works fine at Sunday but I didn't add it manually, Recoll add it through its configurations
[18:26] <genii> Hm.
[18:28] <mbnoimi> genii: Do you've any idea in your mind?
[18:29] <genii> mbnoimi: Nothing comes immediately to mind, unfortunately.
[18:29] <mbnoimi> genii: Thanks... I'll pass my question to the main stream. Guys I need your help
[18:36] <genii> mbnoimi: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=225&t=108385  mentions that cron needs to be told how to run graphical applications, they refer a user there to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto#GUI_Applications  where the basic method seems to be to add the display of your X server in the crontab file.
[18:37] <mbnoimi> genii: Strange!
[18:39] <genii> Yes, you'd think the Task Scheduler would automatically make those type of entries
[18:54] <mbnoimi> genii: Damn I could run my tasks by gnome-schedule while KDE Task Scheduler couldn't... see the new option of X Application http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8869/iwxi.jpg
[18:56] <mbnoimi> genii: I think this is weak point. I've to tell KDE guys about it
[18:56] <genii> mbnoimi: This seems to me be a bug with Task Scheduler
[18:57] <genii> ( or at least an omission not to have similar functionality as the gnome-schedule )
[18:58] <ivo888> hi
[18:58] <ivo888> how can i set up router with 1 lan card
[18:58] <ivo888> i try this http://linuxgazette.net/140/brownss.html  but other computers don`t have internet
[18:58] <ivo888> router, modem and other computers are connected to 1 switch
[19:00] <OerHeks> Your "router-pc" must have 2 ports minimum, one to the modem, and 2nd to your switch with clients
[19:02] <ivo888> but there is options with 1 card....
[19:03] <OerHeks> Not that i know of, wifi + lancable or lancable + lancable
[19:06] <ivo888> too bad :)
[19:06] <ivo888> i don`t have other card (it is laptop)
[21:45] <OxDeadC0de> can anyone maybe help me with a printing problem? Kubuntu 12.10 w/ cups and usn hplip printer. The printer works fine. I created an image 527x378@75ppi in the gimp (Which is 5.04x7.02 inches). I go to print on a 5x7 paper, disable margins, set the paper size to 5x7. What actually gets printed is quite a bit smaller than than 5x7 paper it should fill up
[21:45] <OxDeadC0de> s/usn/usb
[21:46]  * OxDeadC0de le sighs
[21:47] <OxDeadC0de> s/than than/than the
[21:47] <OxDeadC0de> then the? I don't know english very well.
[22:32] <mr-rich> Ok, just did the latest updates to 12.04 LTS and now thunderbird is crashing ... any ideas?
[23:02] <valorie> hi folks, I have a major problem on my newer laptop; I'm fortunate that I have an older one to fall back on
[23:02] <valorie> since a fresh install the other day, I've had an odd problem: application windows disappearing off to the left and today the right side
[23:03] <valorie> in system settings, it shows two monitor windows, which I must turn off one to get things to work right
[23:03] <valorie> since things were disappearing to the left today, I turned off the left one
[23:03] <valorie> now I have a black screen
[23:05] <valorie> the KDE guys told me to delete .kde/share/config/kcmdisplayrc and krandrrc
[23:05] <valorie> but they don't exist
[23:05] <valorie> any clues?
[23:06] <valorie> I do have a console, and I cat'ed the .xsession-errors file, some of which looks relevant
[23:06] <valorie> but other than copying it to a thumbdrive, not sure how to get that information off
[23:06] <valorie> I can file a bug on launchpad, but against what?
[23:06] <genii> !pastebinit
[23:07] <valorie> genii: is that for me?
[23:07] <valorie> ah, I see
[23:07] <valorie> sure
[23:07] <genii> valorie: Yes, a way to get the xsession-errors into a pastebin from CLI
[23:08] <genii> valorie: Although, I am leaving shortly and will not be able to look at it myself, someone else may take up the cause
[23:08] <Unit193> You may want to use one where you can set it private, or expire time.
[23:09] <valorie> installing it
[23:11] <valorie> ok, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5788248/
[23:25] <christopher> hello. I just installed version 11 so I can install a working catalyst driver. Now GCC is undetectable even though software manger says it is. I als install the archive version 3.4 and all associated packages... still gcc -help  returns instructions for apt get (which do not work).
[23:26] <christopher> 'ran into a stray statment in a possbly unrelaed forum post about gcc needing to be the same version that the kernel was compiled with.
[23:27] <christopher> I'm also confused because this version of 11.04 has the latest desktop with all the bells and whistles, but running uname confirms that it's the Kernel from version 11.04
[23:28] <christopher> why would gcc be a ghost like this?
[23:29] <apachelogger> valorie: you'll want to catch afiestas, he knows all about screen stuff
[23:30] <apachelogger> christopher: 11.04?
[23:30] <apachelogger> I am reasonable certain that is not supported anymore
[23:32] <valorie> apachelogger: thank you
[23:32] <christopher> it isn't but I should be able to install an old version?
[23:32] <valorie> renaming .kde did the trick, but I'll be da**ed if I know why
[23:32] <christopher> the thing is niether is my hardware as a result
[23:32] <apachelogger> valorie: possibly the config is called kscreenrc now
[23:34] <christopher> This is the only know fix I know of for the fglrx incompatibility with new kernels
[23:35] <apachelogger> what incompatibility? fglrx is supported on all supported kubuntu versions.
[23:35] <christopher> ..fresh install gcc... gone? That's the "tool" that catalyst "can't find" now that I've "fixed" the genreic kernal files "tools"... "being missing"
[23:36] <apachelogger> sudo apt-get install gcc
[23:36] <christopher> doesn't work
[23:36] <christopher> says "can't find"
[23:37] <apachelogger> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gcc
[23:37] <apachelogger> actually it may refuse to find it because it is an unsupported release.
[23:37] <christopher> "[sudo] password for christopher:
[23:37] <christopher> Reading package lists... Done
[23:37] <christopher> Building dependency tree
[23:37] <christopher> Reading state information... Done
[23:37] <christopher> E: Unable to locate package gcc
[23:37] <FloodBotK1> christopher: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:37] <christopher> "
[23:38] <christopher> sorry didn't know I was copying returns
[23:38] <apachelogger> 11.04 is not on archive.ubuntu.com, neither will it be on mirrors
[23:38] <apachelogger> use a supported release.
[23:39] <christopher> I found gcc 3.4 debs and installed them all "successfully" still no gcc responding in the terminal
[23:39] <apachelogger> installing random debs is not advised btw
[23:40] <christopher> well I just need my graphics card to work.
[23:40] <christopher> this is the only pc I got and the only way up
[23:41] <apachelogger> you have no graphics with 12.04 or 13.04?
[23:42] <christopher> I making 3dc haracter sprites for a 2d game with my only business partner. The chug has to go.
[23:42] <christopher> videos are slow otherwise as well. which while it's nice I can use it as a wordprocessor. a 2008 machine was made to do more.
[23:44] <christopher> I thought a given install could run without internet... and in theory... that's all I need
[23:44] <apachelogger> http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-old-unsupported-release
[23:45] <christopher> thanks
[23:46] <valorie> apachelogger: I don't see kscreenrc in the old .kde/share/config folder, and not the new one either
[23:47] <valorie> do you know where i should be looking?
[23:47] <apachelogger> valorie: exactly in that folder, well, anyway, just talk to afiestas about it
[23:47] <apachelogger> he'll know how to debug it
[23:47] <valorie> ok, will do
[23:48] <valorie> it's pizza time, so maybe I'll send him an email
[23:48] <christopher> that's a very on target link/answer :0]! thank you very much!
[23:48] <valorie> danke schon


[14:57] <bdmurray> o/
[15:00] <slyon> o/
[15:00] <waveform> o/
[15:00] <ginggs> o/
[15:01] <juliank> o/
[15:01] <juliank> o/
[15:01] <sil2100> o/
[15:01] <schopin> o/
[15:01] <bdmurray> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
[15:01] <meetingology> Meeting started at 15:01:18 UTC.  The chair is bdmurray.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology
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[15:01] <bdmurray> #topic Lightning Round
[15:01] <bdmurray> echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray doko sil2100 mwhudson juliank waveform slyon jawn-smith dbungert xypron ginggs schopin)
[15:02] <bdmurray> juliank waveform doko slyon xypron mwhudson vorlon ginggs dbungert schopin bdmurray sil2100 jawn-smith
[15:02] <juliank> * auto-apt-proxy 13.3ubuntu1 - fix for apt 2.3.7 retry delays (debian bug 992147)
[15:02] <juliank> * grub2/focal with fixes from xnox for initrdfail on AWS resume (LP: #1929860) and initrdless documentation (LP: #1901553)
[15:02] <juliank> * shim 15.4-0ubuntu9 w/ the fixes for booting installer media (LP: #1937115)
[15:02] <juliank> * cd-boot-images/impish no-change rebuild for new shim
[15:02] <juliank> * verification of those SRUs
[15:02] <juliank> * sponsored openssl 1.1.1k merge
[15:02] <juliank> (done AFAICT)
[15:02] <waveform> * Trawled through a week+ of emails
[15:02] <waveform> * Investigating phasing of update-notifier (LP: #1836475) which has stopped; looking unrelated at the moment
[15:02] <waveform> * Investigated reports of boot failure on rev 1.4 2GB boards with Bionic; firmware bump likely required
[15:02] <waveform> * Focal .3 release ISO testing
[15:02] <waveform> * Pi meetings
[15:02] <waveform> * Take home tests
[15:02] <waveform> (done)
[15:03] <bdmurray> doko:
[15:03] <slyon> - finishing up +1 work (mostly last week)
[15:03] <slyon> - supporing schopin's +1 rotation
[15:03] <slyon> - merges: pexpect, klibc, isc-dhcp
[15:03] <slyon> - sponsorings: e2fsprogs, lshw, git-remote-hg, racket, haveged, pcre2
[15:03] <slyon> - systemd cgroupv2 enablement + upload + snapd PR
[15:03] <slyon> - fighting with canonistack & setup of raspberrpi for arm autopkgtests
[15:03] <slyon> - proposed-migration: perl, systemd, netplan
[15:03] <slyon> - started some ISO testing
[15:03] <slyon> [15:03] <slyon> - handling some upstream PRs
[15:03] <slyon> - Working on fixing the SRUs (LP: #1919451)
[15:03] <slyon> (done)
[15:04] <bdmurray> xypron:
[15:04] <xypron> LP #1940453 libguestfs: virt-make-fs fails on RISC-V
[15:04] <xypron> Identify what is wrong in the way QEMU is called
[15:04] <xypron> Build package in ppa
[15:04] <xypron> Test installation of ARM64 server image on system ready machine.
[15:04] <xypron> resulted in
[15:04] <xypron> LP #1940223 Installer uses only top left quarter of the screen
[15:04] <xypron> Working on
[15:04] <xypron> LP ##1939516 fftw3 not built for riscv64
[15:05] <xypron> Build and test GRUB for RISC-V

[15:05] <bdmurray> I don't see vorlon so ginggs
[15:05] <vorlon> oh I'm here
[15:05] <ginggs> * merged mdadm
[15:05] <ginggs> * sponsored:
[15:05] <ginggs>   + smc-tools
[15:05] <ginggs>   + liquidsoap SRU
[15:05] <ginggs>   + astropy
[15:05] <ginggs> * glibc -proposed migration:
[15:05] <ginggs>   + nvidia-cuda-toolkit
[15:05] <ginggs>   + deal.ii
[15:05] <ginggs>   + catch
[15:05] <ginggs>   + catch2
[15:05] <ginggs>   + openmsx
[15:05] <ginggs>   + dolfinx
[15:05] <ginggs>   + spdlog
[15:05] <ginggs>   + dolfin
[15:05] <bdmurray> okay so vorlon next
[15:05] <ginggs>   + siconos
[15:05] <ginggs>   + mshr
[15:05] <ginggs> * got dolfin and dolfinx added to big_packages, triggered tests in old releases to establish a new baseline
[15:05] <vorlon>  * interviews
[15:05] <vorlon>  * discussions around future Intel technologies
[15:05] <vorlon>  * SRU reviews
[15:05] <vorlon>  * autopkgtest retries for glibc and hinting away baseline regressions
[15:05] <vorlon>  * fighting a frequent kernel hang on my laptop (LP: #1939349)
[15:06] <ginggs> (done)
[15:06] <vorlon>  * hoping to get to pam merging this week, depends on my laptop being stable long enough
[15:06] <vorlon> (done)
[15:06] <dbungert> * MoM: libxcrypt - only change is to alpha arch.  Skipping this release.
[15:06] <dbungert> * MoM: curl - merged, sponsored by bdmurray
[15:06] <dbungert> * FTBFS: grep - upstream has a fix already, new release expected soon.
[15:06] <dbungert> * FTBFS: libnss-db - fix, sponsored by doko
[15:06] <dbungert> * Delve: learning about golang packaging and gbp.  MP sent to Debian
[15:06] <dbungert> * subiquity/curtin: finalizing changes to use python3-apt for working with
[15:06] <dbungert> sources.list.  Passes unit tests but something is wrong in subiquity
[15:06] <dbungert> integration, investigating
[15:06] <dbungert> * learn about hints
[15:06] <dbungert> (done)
[15:06] <schopin> * pam: worked further on the 1.4.0 merge. LP #1916509
[15:06] <schopin> * m4: backported a fix for a FTBFS with glibc 2.34. LP #1939909
[15:06] <schopin> * exuberant-ctags: requested a sync, as our changes were merged in Debian.
[15:06] <schopin> * I am on +1 rotation this week:
[15:06] <schopin>   + Linked `debos` failure to debian bug #989145
[15:06] <schopin>   + Patched `git-remote-hg` to pass its autopkgtests (LP: #1940123)
[15:06] <schopin>   + Provided a debdiff to merge `ppp` (LP: #1912168)
[15:06] <schopin>   + Looked into tpm2-pkcs11 FTBFS
[15:06] <schopin>   + Investigated merging cvise (not needed ATM)
[15:06] <schopin>   + dh-python: Requested sync (LP: #1940405)
[15:06] <schopin>   + Posted patch for quassel merge (LP: #1940410)
[15:06] <schopin>   + racket: request sync as the FTBFS behind the Ubuntu delta have disappeared (LP: #1940423)
[15:06] <schopin>   + merged haveged (LP: #1940439)
[15:07] <schopin>   + Looked into caml-crush FTBFS (multiple causes, at least debian bug 990363)
[15:07] <schopin> (done)
[15:07] <bdmurray> merged os-prober, intel-microcode
[15:07] <bdmurray> debugging building classic Intel IoT images on cdimage
[15:07] <bdmurray> building new Intel IoT images
[15:07] <bdmurray> submitted PR w/ updated Intel IoT dangerous model
[15:07] <bdmurray> sru-verification of LP: #1938338, LP: #1939457
[15:07] <bdmurray> investigation into LP: #1938588
[15:07] <bdmurray> special SRU release of neutron
[15:07] <bdmurray> uploaded distro-info-data for Hirsute (autopkgtest failure)
[15:07] <bdmurray> follwed up w/ community members re LP: #1937115
[15:07] <bdmurray> sponsored merges for debmirror, curl
[15:07] <bdmurray> sync'ed sshguard, intel-ipsec-mb
[15:07] <bdmurray> grub2 SRU testing
[15:07] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:07] <sil2100> * SRU reviews and releases
[15:07] <sil2100> * Smaller AA tasks
[15:07] <sil2100> * 20.04.3:
[15:07] <sil2100>   - Checklist items
[15:07] <sil2100>   - Coordination
[15:07] <sil2100>   - Started running the changes generator
[15:07] <sil2100>   - Pushed out packages into -updates, poked for validation, did a test install
[15:07] <sil2100>   - Created milestone, fixed some test cases
[15:07] <sil2100>   - Disabled proposed, built first set of images, sending announcements
[15:08] <sil2100> * UC22 CI enablement:
[15:08] <sil2100>   - Iterated with Sertac on how to proceed
[15:08] <sil2100>   - Got feedback from the LP team (still need some more changes sadly)
[15:08] <sil2100>   - Pushed some core22 snap build fixes, followed up with more fixes
[15:08] <sil2100>   - Waiting for LP deployment
[15:08] <sil2100> * Checked our core snap build automation as we did not have a new build for over a month
[15:08] <sil2100>   - Our side of the automation is fine, checks for changes and auto-builds work
[15:08] <sil2100>   - Launchpad team is looking into why snap uploads from the LP recipes fail
[15:08] <sil2100> * ubuntu-image:
[15:08] <sil2100>   - Reviewed and merged William's rootfs state PR
[15:08] <sil2100>   - Started reviewing bootfs PR
[15:08] <sil2100>   - Reviewed and cleaned up the ubuntu-image backlog
[15:08] <sil2100>   - Drafted an idea for classic image improvements, started working on classic image build docs
[15:08] <sil2100> * Candidate discussions
[15:08] <sil2100> * HWE sync meeting
[15:08] <sil2100> * Asked for a core20 long-lived QA-only branch for the QA team
[15:08] <sil2100> * Wrote some code for the cdimage simplestreams support
[15:08] <sil2100> * Ubuntu Core meeting
[15:08] <sil2100> * Helping out with getting the intel-iot images building on the livefs builders
[15:08] <sil2100> * Discussions regarding installer images for RISCV
[15:08] <sil2100> (done)
[15:08] <jawn-smith> * glibc 2.34 regressions:
[15:08] <jawn-smith>     * astropy had broken test case, added patch. Thanks ginggs for the sponsorship
[15:09] <jawn-smith>     * syncthing just needed a re-test
[15:09] <jawn-smith>     * dh-ada-library needed hinting. Thanks bdmurray
[15:09] <jawn-smith>     * wcc is experiencing segmentation faults when built against glibc 2.33 and run against glibc 2.34. Still investigating.                                                                                * Fixed FTBFS in openssh with glibc 2.34
[15:09] <jawn-smith> * merge party! icu and gnutls have been merged from Debian and are currently in impish-proposed awaiting autopkgtests
[15:09] <jawn-smith> * go 1.17 FTBFS packages: golang-github-nicksnyder-go-i18n.v2 and golang-github-prometheus-common fixed.              * RISC-V:
[15:09] <jawn-smith>     * SRU verification for LP: #1936370 in focal. Patch created for hirsute
[15:09] <jawn-smith>     * SRU verification for LP: #1937277
[15:09] <jawn-smith>     * Built images with kernel team's ppa with kernel 5.11-1017 and tested
[15:09] <jawn-smith>     * Tested daily unmatched/unleashed images after kernel 5.11-1017 hit focal-proposed
[15:09] <jawn-smith> * Re-write ubuntu-image in go
[15:09] <jawn-smith>     * Reviewed last few changes for sil2100's manifest PR and merged it.
[15:09] <jawn-smith>     * New PR opened for populate_bootfs_contents
[15:09] <jawn-smith>         * Thanks to snapd MountedFilesystemWriter was able to combine both bootfs steps into one
[15:09] <jawn-smith>     * Made requested updates to https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/10592
[15:09] <jawn-smith>     * Re-organizing some code and adding test cases for upcoming populate_partitions PR
[15:09] <jawn-smith> [done]
[15:10] <bdmurray> Are there any questions on all that status?
[15:11] <bdmurray> dbungert: have you seen the curl autopkgtest results?
[15:11] <dbungert> I'll look
[15:11] <bdmurray> Some may still be running
[15:12] <bdmurray> #topic Release Incoming Bugs
[15:12] <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ii-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:12] <bdmurray> bug 1939973
[15:13] <bdmurray> well since it already has a card let's untag and target it
[15:14] <bdmurray> bug 1938299
[15:16] <bdmurray> Well it looks like we need to look at google-guest-agent
[15:17] <bdmurray> so let's card it and target it
[15:18] <bdmurray> #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[15:18] <bdmurray> nothing here for us
[15:18] <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[15:19] <bdmurray> nothing here for us either
[15:20] <bdmurray> #topic Team proposed-migration report
[15:20] <mclemenceau_> ok bdmurray I carded 1938299
[15:20] <bdmurray> #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[15:21] <vorlon> so
[15:21] <vorlon> some of these were already assigned I think, please help me out on figuring out where to
[15:21] <vorlon> boost1.71?
[15:21] <vorlon> (which blocks both camke and glibc)
[15:21] <vorlon> (cmake)
[15:22] <vorlon> seems it may have been doko who's not here
[15:22] <bdmurray> I don't see anything in the last meeting minutes about boost
[15:22] <vorlon> or else mwhudson who is also not here :)
[15:23] <vorlon> and llvm-toolchain-12 now has passing tests, may just need a retest against cmake; I'll have a look
[15:24] <vorlon> (unlikely that new cmake is what caused llvm toolchain testsuite to segfault...)
[15:24] <vorlon> someone looking at apport?
[15:24] <vorlon> bdmurray?
[15:24] <ginggs> vorlon, see https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/migrating-glibc-2-34/23749
[15:24] <vorlon> ah right
[15:25] <vorlon> boost1.71 is apparently being handled by "I"
[15:25] <bdmurray> Me is looking at apport
[15:25] <vorlon> no one is looking at the aspectc++ autopkgtest failure yet; any takers?
[15:25] <bdmurray> not to be confused with I
[15:26] <dbungert> the "I" comment is in the original post it looks like, so I think mwhudson is looking at boost
[15:26] <jawn-smith> I can take aspectc++
[15:26] <vorlon> jawn-smith: thanks
[15:26] <vorlon> combblas: this was a typo in my hint, I thought it was commblas
[15:26] <vorlon> delve, dbungert is looking at
[15:27] <waveform> I can take fpc
[15:27] <dbungert> yes
[15:27] <vorlon> fpc has a bug report filed by ginggs.  ginggs are you following up further?
[15:27] <ginggs> vorlon: yeah i'm subscribed to the bug, intend to look further
[15:27] <vorlon> mwhudson is recommending ignoring the autopkgtest failures for glibc itself, twitch
[15:27] <vorlon> ginggs: thanks
[15:27] <ginggs> the upstream bug that is
[15:28] <vorlon> libuev says it has a fix uploaded by mwhudson, I'll take care of retriggering to confirm
[15:28] <vorlon> netplan.io is slyon
[15:28] <slyon> ack
[15:28] <vorlon> openzwave is unassigned.  Volunteers?
[15:28] <waveform> I'll have that then
[15:29] <vorlon> waveform: thanks
[15:29] <ginggs> there's an armhf issue with libuev, doko is looking into it
[15:29] <vorlon> r-cran-sys is unassigned
[15:29] <vorlon> juliank: could you take this one?
[15:29] <ginggs> i'll take r-cran-sys
[15:30] <ginggs> i suspect its the armhf thing though
[15:30] <vorlon> ok
[15:30] <vorlon> systemd/armhf, who wants this?
[15:31] <slyon> I started investigating today, but might not be able to follow through, due to vacations starting monday.
[15:31] <vorlon> slyon: do you want to look at it this week and hand off to someone else at your EOW?
[15:31] <slyon> will do
[15:32] <schopin> it'll be the end of my +1 so I can take over systemd if need be
[15:32] <vorlon> wcc, jawn-smith says he's investigating
[15:32] <slyon> schopin: thanks!
[15:32] <jawn-smith> yeah, that one's... special
[15:32] <vorlon> and wmanager - schopin could you take this?
[15:33] <schopin> ack.
[15:33] <vorlon> there are others on the list but I think for right now we should stay focused on glibc so I'll stop there
[15:34] <vorlon> bdmurray:
[15:35] <bdmurray> thanks vorlon
[15:35] <bdmurray> #topic AOB
[15:35] <jawn-smith> I've got another feature freeze question:
[15:35] <sil2100> 20.04.3 RC images are now live!
[15:36] <jawn-smith> We discussed last week that merges from Debian are subject to feature freeze, because they're new versions of the package.
[15:37] <jawn-smith> Does this apply to getting them to move from -proposed? Asking because gnutls28 is blocked on some of the aforementioned regressions (e.g. boost)
[15:37] <schopin> Wasn't it just merges for new upstream versions?
[15:37] <bdmurray> that's not a question
[15:37] <bdmurray> jawn-smith: no it doesn't
[15:37] <jawn-smith> thanks!
[15:37] <bdmurray> jawn-smith: also if they are in the queue before freeze (but unreviewed) that's fine too
[15:37] <bdmurray> although that's more for new packages
[15:37] <jawn-smith> great, thanks!
[15:38] <jawn-smith> Another (possibly dumb) question: What does it signify when someone has [m] at the end of their nick?
[15:39] <slyon> jawn-smith: I think this is the default when connection to IRC via Matrix
[15:39] <LukasM[m]> like this one here :)
[15:39] <jawn-smith> I figured it was something like that, but a brief google search didn't find anything
[15:40] <bdmurray> that sounds like searching for britney force and getting brittany force
[15:41] <sil2100> Ok, so I'll use this moment to just repeat my usual stuff: please test the .3 images!
[15:41] <sil2100> But don't find any critical issues pretty plz
[15:42] <sil2100> Only green test results everyone
[15:42] <bdmurray> Hey now, no introducing bias to the testing
[15:42] <sil2100> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/425/builds
[15:42] <sil2100> ;)
[15:43] <waveform> sil2100, I'll try (not to find any critical issues ;)
[15:43] <bdmurray> okay, if there's nothing else
[15:44] <schopin> sil2100: how much of a pain would it be to generate different filenames for each flavor ? Ubuntu Budgie and Standard at least have the same name :/
[15:44] <schopin> (for the ISOs)
[15:45] <vorlon> substantial :)
[15:45] <schopin> I thought so, but had to ask.
[15:45] <vorlon> yes it's annoying; we've also done it this way for 16 years :)
[15:46] <bdmurray> Speaking of isos new testers might be interested in https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ann-dl-ubuntu-test-iso-an-easy-way-to-download-latest-daily-images/15340
[15:46] <sil2100> Yeah, it's possible but cdimage is right now designed around that ;)
[15:46] <sil2100> So too much remodelling
[15:48] <bdmurray> okay thanks everybody
[15:48] <bdmurray> #endmeeting
[15:48] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 15:48:03 UTC.  Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-08-19-15.01.moin.txt
[15:49] <sil2100> o/
[15:51] <slyon> o/


[16:32] <henk_> hello, Is there anyone who can help me out? I downloaded xubuntu 16.04 and installed it with lili usb creator. Now it doesnt work. if i start my laptop up it says can not mount /dev/loop0
[16:33] <henk_> cannot mount /dev/lop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem. squashfs
[16:34] <xubuntuhenk> hello, Is there anyone who can help me out? I downloaded xubuntu 16.04 and installed it with lili usb creator. Now it doesnt work. if i start my laptop up it says can not mount /dev/loop0
[16:35] <xubuntuhenk> cannot mount /dev/lop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem. squashfs
[16:39] <xubuntuhenk> hello
[16:42] <slickymasterWork> !hi | xubuntuhenk
[16:56] <LuisBalaguer> hi
[17:25] <goontl> hi guys, im considering xubuntu. just wanted to know if it keeps the ads and info snooping stuff that ubuntu does or not (like mint)
[17:28] <pleia2> all of the Ubuntu Amazon search and stuff is off by default these days and they've shifted back to using Gnome anyway, but no, Xubuntu never used Unity and never included those smart searches
[17:31] <goontl> cool, also  I read somewhere that ubuntu gathers info somehow?
[18:16] <CoderEurope> Hiya pleia2 o/
[18:17] <CoderEurope> I still have your christmas card from Last year :D
[19:29] <pleia2> CoderEurope: nice :)
[20:32] <CoderEurope> pleia2, How are your flicker cats, these days ?
[20:32] <CoderEurope> **flickr
[21:31] <pleia2> CoderEurope: probably a better discussion for #xubuntu-offtopic ;)
[22:41] <weed> hi
[22:41] <Guest79613> weed


[01:50] <sethj> Where can I get the download link for Ubuntu Studio 11.04? I found one for 9.04 and then 12.10 upward, but none of the other releases.
[15:47] <ole_> moinsen
[15:47] <cfhowlett> ole_, ... greetings
[15:48] <ole_> död
[17:01] <circ-user-w3x6R> Hi tks for UbuntuStudio 14.04.1, I use it live, how can remaster it and reburn it as a new live version as I lack of space on my key. thanks
[21:13] <rustyraptor> How do I change the time?
[21:13] <rustyraptor> I can only change the timezone
[21:38] <rustyraptor> How do I change the time?
[21:44] <zequence> rustyraptor: Is the time not correct?
[21:45] <zequence> It usually auto-updates through internet
[21:45] <Unit193> If you have ntpd installed and enabled.
[21:46] <Unit193> You can look at the settings in `time-admin`
[22:20] <rustyraptor> the time is incorrect
[22:20] <rustyraptor> ah I got it with time-admin
[22:21] <rustyraptor> but why are these settings not in the settings manager?


[19:01] <highvoltage> right! who's present for the Edubuntu meeting?
[19:02] <alkisg> o/
[19:02]  * Lns raises hand enthusiastically
[19:04] <highvoltage> stgraber: meetingreminderping
[19:04] <highvoltage> agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/Meetings/Agenda
[19:05] <highvoltage> ok I'll start talking about our bug day
[19:06] <highvoltage> it's scheduled for 12 January
[19:06] <highvoltage> Ubuntu Alpha 2 is scheduled for 14 January
[19:07] <highvoltage> so it's a good time to check the daily builds so that we can have an alpha release
[19:07]  * stgraber waves
[19:07] <stgraber> sorry a customer just called :)
[19:07] <highvoltage> LaserJock suggested that we look at all the edubuntu specific packages and make a drop list
[19:08] <highvoltage> that would be a list of software that's really buggy or not in a good state that we would look at removing or fixing
[19:09] <highvoltage> not sure if we should do that before the bug day instead
[19:09] <Lns> if we cut out packages we don't want to find bugs with...might be a good idea to do that beforehand :)
[19:10] <highvoltage> yep, I guess we could have a wiki page where people make suggestions for such packages and link to the bug reports
[19:10] <highvoltage> then it would be easier to make decisions
[19:10] <stgraber> +1
[19:10] <Lns> +1
[19:11] <alkisg> +1, and maybe we can make the final decisions on the bug day?
[19:11] <highvoltage> yep
[19:11] <Lns> do we have access to popcon for these packages to gauge how much they're being used?
[19:11] <highvoltage> yep, that sounds good
[19:11] <alkisg> The popcon score is in installed in any ubuntu installation, so I think we can check it locally...
[19:12] <highvoltage> shall we talk about gpaint vs kolorpaint?
[19:13] <alkisg> I think sbalneav also wants to speak in favor of kolourpaint, so maybe we should wait until he's here? :D
[19:13] <highvoltage> I just installed both and they seem to be pretty similar in nature, but aparently gpaint has lots of bugs and isn't maintained anymore?
[19:14] <alkisg> Yes, and also it has many, many less features than kolourpaint
[19:14] <Lns> what about tuxpaint?
[19:14] <alkisg> Tuxpaint is good, but it isn't a "classical" drawing program
[19:14] <Lns> gotcha
[19:15] <alkisg> E.g. I use both tuxpaint and kolourpaint in the same classroom, for different lessons
[19:15] <Lns> too bad there's no way to just scale down gimp features to create a simple editor
[19:15] <sbalneav> Sorry, was late back from lunch
[19:16] <alkisg> Yeah a simplified gimp would be perfect for the job
[19:16] <highvoltage> personally I don't have any strong feelings about shipping a kde program as a default paint program. we're shipping the kde libraries anyway
[19:16] <highvoltage> stgraber: any thoughts?
[19:16] <stgraber> we have kdeedu already so having one more kde software is fine
[19:17] <stgraber> it'd be an issue if we were on a CD and needed to add kdelibs to the CD but it's not our case so I have nothing against it
[19:17] <highvoltage> we don't really seem to have any arguement against replacing gpaint with kolourpaint4, so let's make it so
[19:18] <sbalneav> +1
[19:18] <alkisg> +1!!!
[19:18] <highvoltage> ok cool, done.
[19:19] <highvoltage> sbalneav: what's happening in sabayon world?
[19:19] <stgraber> just need someone to give me a patch for edubuntu-meta and the seeds :)
[19:19] <sbalneav> Sabayon works great!
[19:19] <sbalneav> gksu is borken :(
[19:19] <highvoltage> stgraber: I'll get it to you tonight, assuming it's as simple as I think it is :)
[19:20] <sbalneav> I'll have to fix it tonight.
[19:20] <stgraber> highvoltage: should be relatively simple
[19:20] <sbalneav> yesterday, with stgraber's help to fix my bad naming, sabayon 2.29.5-rc1 made it into lucid
[19:21] <sbalneav> anyone put any thought into bugs that bug them for bug day... bug
[19:21] <highvoltage> sbalneav: excellent
[19:22] <highvoltage> I put together the Netbook Lucid spec: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/Specifications/LucidNetbookOption
[19:23] <sbalneav> Where's screem at? Have we dropped that entirely?
[19:23] <highvoltage> not particularly creative but the gist of it is there
[19:23] <sbalneav> highvoltage: are we talking about an install option from the dvd? Edubuntu netbook?
[19:23] <highvoltage> sbalneav: yes
[19:24] <highvoltage> sbalneav: so it won't be a seperate installation disc or anything
[19:24] <sbalneav> cool, that'll be nice.  I know trask will like that for his open1to1 project.
[19:25] <highvoltage> haven't spoken to him in a while :)
[19:25] <sbalneav> He's doing some stuff with netbooks and edubuntu
[19:26] <highvoltage> cool
[19:26] <highvoltage> we should interview him some time
[19:26] <sbalneav> Since I'll be heading up the bug day, I'll post something to edubuntu-dev and -user
[19:26] <highvoltage> I think we should actually interview users and feature them on the website
[19:26]  * alkisg tried the current edubuntu daily build, and the autologin is broken on the installer, so one has to create a new user from the console to be able to login and get on with the installation... it should be fixed for people to try the daily builds before the bug day :)
[19:27] <highvoltage> I've been looking at other drupal themes yesterday so that we can replace that broken one we have currently
[19:27] <sbalneav> Who should fix that login bug?  stgraber, have you looked at the daily build scripts?
[19:28] <alkisg> I don't know if it's edubuntu-specific, but Lucid alpha didn't have it.
[19:28] <stgraber> not yet, though I'm not sure we have anything custom there, is that only Edubuntu-related or is it also broken for current Ubuntu daily ?
[19:28] <alkisg> My bandwidth isn't good enough to try 2 dailys at the same day :D
[19:29] <highvoltage> my bandwidth is fast enough it's just a pity it costs me around US$15 to download each iso :/
[19:30] <alkisg> Ouch
[19:30] <highvoltage> actually I think I could get one of the universities to mirror it for me
[19:30] <highvoltage> stgraber: you have an Ubuntu Drupal theme that works well don't you?
[19:31] <stgraber> highvoltage: yep, the one on ubuntu.com and brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[19:31] <highvoltage> I'm kind of undecided whether we should stick to something that looks very ubuntu'y again or do something more creative and different
[19:31] <highvoltage> xubuntu.org broke away from the rest
[19:32] <sbalneav> For the bugsquad:
[19:32] <sbalneav> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~edubuntu-bugs/+packagebugs
[19:32] <highvoltage> I guess it would be easiest starting from the ubuntu'y theme
[19:32] <highvoltage> stgraber: where can I get that drupal theme?
[19:32] <sbalneav> how do we update the package list?  There's probably some things that should be added/dropped
[19:32] <stgraber> highvoltage: there's one in the ubuntu-qa-website project and I believe some locos actually created a project for the official theme
[19:33] <highvoltage> stgraber: ok I'll look it up
[19:33] <stgraber> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-drupal-theme probably
[19:33] <highvoltage> sbalneav: I believe it's at https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/edubuntu.lucid
[19:34] <stgraber> sbalneav: ^ feel free to propose patches to that branch and I'll review + push (as it's in ubuntu-core-dev)
[19:34] <Lns> The more we change, the more we support ourselves
[19:35] <sbalneav> Well, for instance, tcm's dead, so we should drop it.
[19:35] <sbalneav> ditch gpaint in favor of kolourpaint, etc.
[19:36] <sbalneav> Everybody pimped for bug day?
[19:36] <sbalneav> err
[19:36] <sbalneav> pumped
[19:36] <Lns> sbalneav, the current tcm is dead...the new TCM is building toward a new release, i'm talking with moldy right now and he's rewritten 90% of the code and we're meeting tomorrow to discuss short term goals
[19:36] <highvoltage> sbalneav: yeah I be pimpin'
[19:36] <sbalneav> Well, I suppose you could be pimped.
[19:36] <HedgeMage> highvoltage: sorry, I am just getting back to the computer -- what are you seeking to theme?
[19:36] <sbalneav> Lns: figure we'll have it for lucid?
[19:37] <Lns> sbalneav, that would be an awesome goal to meet...what's the deadline?
[19:37] <highvoltage> HedgeMage: fixing the edubuntu site, stgraber pointed me to where a better ubuntu base theme is available that we could use
[19:37] <sbalneav> Feb's feature freeze :(
[19:37] <moldy> hi
[19:37] <highvoltage> hi moldy
[19:38] <moldy> Lns just pointed me here
[19:38] <Lns> moldy, February is the feature-freeze for lucid...what is your opinion on tcm being ready at that point if we push forward from this point on?
[19:38] <HedgeMage> highvoltage: The next few weeks I'll be swamped, but after that ping me and I'll see if I can help (Drupal is what I do for a living anyway)
[19:38] <sbalneav> there a bzr or git branch of tcm-ng yet?
[19:38] <HedgeMage> highvoltage: what is the target date for the redesign?
[19:38] <moldy> Lns: it's sure not completely unrealistic
[19:39] <highvoltage> HedgeMage: no target date set, but the aim is well before Lucid is launched
[19:39] <Lns> sbalneav, https://launchpad.net/tcm-ng is the project page
[19:39] <highvoltage> HedgeMage: but there's lots of work to be done, so when you're ready let me know
[19:39] <moldy> at least not if we limit ourselves to getting the more basic features polished and postpone work-intensive nice-to-have stuff until after lucid
[19:40] <Lns> sounds sane
[19:40] <highvoltage> HedgeMage: btw, nice seeing you here again :)
[19:40] <HedgeMage> highvoltage: np
[19:40] <moldy> sbalneav: the bzr branch on launchpad does not reflect the current state of the code though... i worken again in the last few days after a long break from tcm... that work has not been pushed yet
[19:41] <HedgeMage> highvoltage: are you suitably multitasking that I can pm you for some details?
[19:41] <moldy> sbalneav: so you might want to wait another few days before checking it out :)
[19:41] <sbalneav> That's fine.
[19:41] <highvoltage> HedgeMage: yep, just making changes to the seeds and taking notes and looking for a theme, I can handle another discussion just fine :)
[19:41] <nixternal> hola
[19:41] <HedgeMage> heh
[19:41] <HedgeMage> Salve, nixternal :)
[19:42] <highvoltage> Salut, nixternal
[19:42] <moldy> sbalneav: by the beginning of next week, updates should get to launchpad
[19:42] <sbalneav> If we had some basic functionality with tcm-ng, and a working sabayon & pessulus, management wise, we'd have a winner with Lucid.
[19:42]  * nixternal notes we need to put our meetings on the Fridge
[19:42] <moldy> sbalneav: what are the most important features for tcm, in your opinion?
[19:42] <nixternal> I have a little script that updates my meeting info presented in my screen bottom bar
[19:43] <sbalneav> moldy: the three questions that get asked of me all the time are:
[19:43] <sbalneav> 1) How can I see what processes are running from a thin client?
[19:43] <sbalneav> 2) How can I kill said processes (runaway firefox, etc)
[19:44] <sbalneav> 3) How do I look at the person's screen (vnc)
[19:44] <highvoltage> nixternal: screenshot please :)
[19:44] <Lns> sbalneav, 1 + 2 are already polished afaik, in addition to running new processes on client(s)
[19:44] <sbalneav> If you could ship something that did at least 1 & 2, that'd be a huge bonus
[19:44] <moldy> sbalneav: i see. 1) and 2) were basically supported by the traditional tcm, i think, and are still supported now.
[19:45] <highvoltage> sbalneav: #4 would probably be "how do I display a presentation or demo on all the displays?"
[19:45] <nixternal> http://nixternal.com/files/byobu.png  <- highvoltage
[19:45] <sbalneav> highvoltage: yeah, you see that less often, but that's one too.
[19:45] <Lns> a big one for me is being able to reboot/shutdown clients from a central workstation
[19:45] <sbalneav> sure.
[19:46] <sbalneav> the VNC one's a tough cookie to crack..
[19:46] <moldy> sbalneav: though it is per user, not per ltsp session... if the same user is logged in from a terminal client *and* by ssh or a local console, then you will see all his processes... i don't know of a clean way to change this.
[19:46] <sbalneav> moldy: that'd be fine.
[19:46] <moldy> i know josh has been looking at vnc support
[19:46] <stgraber> moldy: take the sshd process and then go through all of its children
[19:47] <sbalneav> moldy: did the post I pointed you at and the tips alkisg gave you solve the messaging issue?
[19:47] <moldy> sbalneav: basically yes, by teaching me the important environment vars
[19:47] <sbalneav> At this point, a working *something* would be better than a pie-in-the-sky *wait-til-post-lucid*
[19:48] <moldy> stgraber: good idea, if there is a way to differentiate the ltsp sshd process from other ssh processes of the same user
[19:48] <sbalneav> and worse case scenario, per our announcement, we can always provide updates with new functionality post-lucid in the edubuntu-dev ppa's
[19:48] <moldy> sbalneav: though i think in the current state, it only works with LDM_DIRECTX enabled
[19:49] <sbalneav> that'd be fine.  I'd wager better than 90% of the people run ltsp that way.
[19:49] <moldy> good. i agree, better to have something working for lucid and provide improvements via ppas than to have nothing.
[19:49] <sbalneav> Personally, my recommendation would be, focus on getting polish on what you've GOT over the next month, so we can get something in for lucid's release
[19:50] <sbalneav> yeah
[19:50] <Lns> +1
[19:50] <Lns> vnc has been a notorious pain to get going but hopefully after tomorrow we'll have a good plan of action to tackle that
[19:51] <sbalneav> then we can say, "Look, we've actually got some management tools this time around.  tcm-ng + sabayon + pessulus + a possibility of an ldap setup config = a huge lowering of the learning curve to set up an edubuntu lab
[19:52] <stgraber> sbalneav: we also have italc in the default install
[19:52] <highvoltage> btw, I notice the Drupal version on the Edubuntu site isn't as horribly outdated as I thought it was
[19:52] <moldy> stgraber: unfortunately, i know no way to decide which sshd process belongs to ltsp and which one does not
[19:52] <highvoltage> did anyone here happen to update it? :)
[19:52] <alkisg> +1 for italc
[19:52] <sbalneav> stgraber: I've been seeing a lot of "whaa, italc doesn't work" messages.  Is it working?
[19:52] <alkisg> sbalneav: that's mostly because of a bad wiki page :(
[19:53] <sbalneav> ah
[19:53] <stgraber> sbalneav: well on the few thousands thin clients we manage, it seems to do
[19:53] <stgraber> issue is that some people expect that full screen demo will work just fine with something VNC based and are surprised when it takes a lot of memory and bandwidth ;)
[19:54] <Lns> Personally I've seen a lot of weirdnesses in the gui for italc as well as overall stability (it just didn't work consistently)..it's been a while, however, so i don't know its current state
[19:54] <alkisg> It *does* have several bugs (e.g. I wasn't able to get broadcasting to not crash in my lab), but usually it's workable out of the box
[19:54] <stgraber> upstream is doing a full rewrite so it should drastically improve in the future
[19:55] <moldy> that's interesting
[19:56] <alkisg> It's also very good that it's cross platform. I do hope we see a 2.0 release in 2010....
[19:56] <Lns> tcm-ng on the other hand will have the advantage of being UI agnostic..moldy and yanqui have done a great job of separating back-end from front-end to make (alternate) interfaces easy to create
[19:57] <highvoltage> not that I want to cut this discussion short, but are there any other items for the meeting?
[19:58] <alkisg> I've made a script that can be used to share the edubuntu dvd over NFS, by just running it from a PC booted with that dvd. It should help in cases where edubuntu can't be installed because the PC doesn't have a DVD drive and doesn't support booting from usb. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot#line-75
[19:59] <alkisg> ...and the script is here: http://wiki.ubuntu-gr.org/sch-docs/livecd-netboot?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=livecd-netboot
[19:59] <Lns> nice alkisg =)
[19:59] <highvoltage> alkisg: cool
[20:00] <Lns> is that something that can be easily made portable for other dists?
[20:00] <highvoltage> I noticed that no one added their prefered meeting times to our doodle calender yet
[20:00] <alkisg> Sure, I've just hardcoded the path to the kernel (/casper/vmlinuz)
[20:00] <alkisg> Other than that it should be fairly portable.
[20:01] <highvoltage> is doodle something we actually want to use then or should we just decide the next week's meeting every week?
[20:02] <Lns> highvoltage, doodle url?
[20:03] <highvoltage> http://doodle.com/ntsueczcb565itih
[20:04] <highvoltage> the idea was that we fill in a month advance at a time and decide early on meeting times so that it can go onto the fridge, etc and that people can know well in advance when the next edubuntu meetings will take place
[20:06] <highvoltage> anyway, let's decide for next week's meeting so long?
[20:06] <highvoltage> Wednesday the 6th at 19:00 UTC again?
[20:06] <alkisg> Personally I've filled it up the first times, but I didn't see any "copy-paste" ability and I was bored to fill the same entries again and again... :(
[20:07] <sbalneav> Same bat-time, same bat-channel works for me.
[20:07] <highvoltage> it is a bit boring, but it only takes like, a minute to fill it in for an entire month :)
[20:07] <alkisg> +1
[20:07] <Lns> same bat-time works for me too
[20:07] <highvoltage> heh, ok
[20:07] <highvoltage> then it is so
[20:08] <Lns> so i'm assuming we're not doing fridays as a set day anymore
[20:08] <sbalneav> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R31ge09jaXw
[20:08] <highvoltage> Lns: we haven't for ages
[20:09] <highvoltage> Lns: we had complaints from some people that they can never attend fridays
[20:09] <highvoltage> Lns: doodle.com is working nicely for some ubuntu teams so we decided to try it out, but it doesn't seem all that popular with edubuntu folk :)
[20:09] <alkisg> I've never seen them on any meeting since, though :)
[20:10] <Lns> to me doodle.com is just another link i'm going to lose :)
[20:10] <highvoltage> the edubuntu doodle link is linked from the edubuntu meeting agenda page
[20:10] <highvoltage> and that is included in every meeting announcement
[20:10] <highvoltage> and meeting minutes that gets posted to the list
[20:10] <moldy> deadline "february" for lucid means what exactly? last day of january? ;)
[20:10] <Lns> oh ok
[20:11] <highvoltage> so you'll have to make a good effort if you really want to lose it :)
[20:11] <alkisg> moldy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule
[20:11] <moldy> alkisg: thanks
[20:11] <Lns> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Edubuntu/Meetings/Agenda for agenda
[20:12] <highvoltage> Lns: yes, in the top section there's a link to doodle and the fridge
[20:12] <Lns> yep
[20:12] <moldy> i am very unfamiliar with the ubuntu processes... so if anyone wants to help us in getting tcm-ng in for lucid, that would be great :)
[20:13] <highvoltage> moldy: if it's in good shape and the packages are in the archive, then it shouldn't be much of an issue to have it included at all
[20:13] <Lns> Here's kind of the "master page" for TCM, has links to everything relevant: http://logicalnetworking.net/wiki/doku.php#projectthin_client_manager_tcm
[20:14] <alkisg> Btw, tcosmonitor is a similar app, moldy you might find some useful code in it.
[20:15] <highvoltage> ok, let's take this to #edubuntu
[20:15] <moldy> highvoltage: i assume we need an ubuntu dev to get the packages into the archive?
[20:15] <highvoltage> thanks for taking the time to be here everyone
[20:15] <alkisg> Thank you highvoltage, thanks all.
[20:15] <Lns> thanks highvoltage, et. all =)
[20:15] <Lns> er..al ;)
[20:15] <highvoltage> moldy: I'll answer in #edubuntu
[20:15] <highvoltage> thanks everyone!
[20:16] <highvoltage> *bong*
[20:16] <moldy> highvoltage: sure, thank you. thanks everyone.
[20:16] <stgraber> thanks


[12:41] <nixternal> yo yo yo
[12:42] <lophyte> just got me a rush-shipped box of CDs
[12:42] <lophyte> :)
[12:42] <nixternal> nice
[12:42] <lophyte> it was shipped on friday and got here today
[12:42] <nixternal> i have 500 more coming for an event we are doing with FREE GEEK
[12:42] <lophyte> 130 Ubuntu, 20 K and 10 Edu
[12:42] <nixternal> right now, i am setting up 4 boxes for a Tech Show at the Uni tomorrow
[12:42] <lophyte> nice
[12:42] <nixternal> im dead tired right now
[12:43] <lophyte> we're thinking about going for SFD
[12:43] <lophyte> having a prep meeting this Saturday to see how many people we've got
[12:43] <nixternal> i know i am participating in SFD with a local LUG
[12:44] <nixternal> i didn't get to create a team for us, so we are going to be merging with some LUGs instead
[12:44] <nixternal> just for SFD
[12:44] <lophyte> cool
[12:44] <lophyte> the owner of the Linux Caffe here is also a video guy.. he's going to be recording our meeting and interviewing some of us for his SFD press kit
[12:44] <nixternal> nice
[12:44] <lophyte> so we might or might not get some press exposure.. who knows
[12:46] <nixternal> i am trying to get some press exposure, but Chicago kind of sucks..you need a lot of money and be a big wig for exposure...it is such a politically charge thing it isn't funny
[02:12] <poningru> arr?
[02:13] <poningru> except only... 50 cds, 5 kubuntu
[02:15] <poningru> our local celebrity
[02:15] <poningru> except more... global
[02:15] <elkbuntu> :)
[06:08] <poningru> yarr
[06:10] <Madpilot> Mrh?
[06:12] <poningru> dude do you know where the press team page went?
[06:12] <poningru> in ubuntu wiki
[06:12] <Madpilot> poningru, no idea - where is it supposed to be?
[06:13] <poningru> wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/PressTeam
[06:14] <poningru> sigh nm
[06:14] <Burgundavia> the press team is mostly a dead idea, but it probably should be revived
[06:14] <Burgundavia> however, it is also something we need to liase with the local teams about
[06:14] <poningru> Burgundavia: I worked on a press kit during summer
[06:14] <Burgundavia> cool
[06:14] <poningru> but kinda died when I came back to school/work
[06:15] <Burgundavia> yep
[06:15] <Burgundavia> are the results somewhere?
[06:15] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PressTeam/EPK
[08:24] <jenda> Have a look at one of the poster proposals: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=15360&d=1157515086
[08:26] <Madpilot> too much text crammed into that grey box, otherwise OK
[08:26] <Burgundavia> loose the underline
[08:26] <Burgundavia> make Ubuntu bigger
[08:26] <Burgundavia> use more of hte Ubuntu colours
[08:26] <Burgundavia> like the catch phrase
[08:26] <Burgundavia> no mention of "Linux for Human Beings"
[08:29] <Burgundavia> jenda: where is that thread?
[08:31] <Madpilot> jenda, I almost prefer the original concecpt that was posted on the thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=15307&d=1157428287
[08:31] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248546
[08:31] <Burgundavia> hmm, will bookmark that
[08:32] <jenda> ah, thx Madpilot
[08:33] <Madpilot> yeah, I like it too
[08:34] <jenda> hehe :)
[08:34] <jenda> Madpilot: if you're in Canada, you should... ;)
[08:35] <Madpilot> it's not even midnight here yet, I'll go to sleep tomorrow :)
[08:35] <Burgundavia> http://www.gasteropodica.net/ablage/ubuntu/ubuntu_idea01.jpg <-- this one?
[08:36] <jenda> yes
[08:36] <Burgundavia> I love it
[08:36] <jenda> The more I look at it, the more I like it.
[08:36] <Burgundavia> even just like that
[08:36] <jenda> exactly :)
[08:36] <jenda> pre-alpha my buttocks :-D It's beautiful.
[08:37] <elkbuntu>  the hand-drawn look
[08:38] <Burgundavia> I really think we need to play up our "human" palette
[08:38] <elkbuntu> definately
[08:38] <elkbuntu> especially for the average joe
[08:39] <jenda> yep
[08:42] <Burgundavia> it is great to see people interested
[08:42] <Burgundavia> we truly need a colaborative document storage thingy
[08:42] <elkbuntu> to be effective, yeah
[08:43] <jenda> Burgundavia: expect a long email in the ML next week on the subject - although mainly on home printing and distribution of DIY material.
[08:43] <Burgundavia> cool
[08:43] <jenda> And don't forget we havea bzr branch
[08:43] <Burgundavia> thanks for runing that
[08:43] <jenda> I try to keep it full of the DIY that runs through my hands
[08:47] <jenda> ah.... and...
[08:47] <jenda> Burgundavia, Madpilot, elkbuntu - the contents are mirrored daily at: http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/
[08:50] <Burgundavia> cool
[08:51] <Burgundavia> one of the key pieces that we might want to think about is making certain that when people come looking for a poster, they do not get overwhelmed with choice
[08:51] <Burgundavia> or any other sort of stuff
[08:53] <Madpilot> <big obvious sign>Get Yer Posters Here. Big Ones There, Small Designs Over There!</sign>
[08:53] <Burgundavia> yep
[08:53] <Burgundavia> and poster development over here
[08:54] <Burgundavia> hence the thought of a document managment system
[08:54] <ompaul> jenda this one is not visible http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/DIY-at-home/moeFinley/587337_67868245.jpg
[08:54] <jenda> Burgundavia: I will only be able to print one type out, so I want it tip top ;)
[08:54] <Burgundavia> however, those are complex and horrible things to set up
[08:54] <Burgundavia> yes
[08:54] <Burgundavia> but I will need a poster for my mall visit and lots of other people go looking for things
[08:55] <ompaul> in fact anything in that directory is 403
[08:55] <jenda> strange...
[08:55] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, while not overwhelming, there should still be some variety
[08:56] <Burgundavia> oh, I agree
[08:56] <Burgundavia> but that variety should be at most 5
[08:56] <elkbuntu> yeah, if that
[08:56] <Burgundavia> each with a different specific message
[08:56] <jenda> hmm
[08:56] <Burgundavia> here is an idea: collect all the entries you get and run a poll
[08:56] <elkbuntu> i'd say 3 designs
[08:57] <elkbuntu> yeah. and top 3 win
[08:57] <Madpilot> screenshot from Inkscape: http://www.warbard.ca/temp/U-poster-SVGsketch.png
[08:57] <jenda> Don't forget that we need the storage first :)
[08:57] <Burgundavia> we can probably line something up from Chris
[08:57] <Burgundavia> hmm, nice take on the SFG postger
[08:58] <Burgundavia> SFD, rather
[08:58] <jenda> but the storage could, and should be eventually implemented in that site you're working on, elkbuntu ...(I hope :))
[08:58] <jenda> Burgundavia: link?
[08:58] <elkbuntu> jenda, im prioritising to surveys at the moment
[08:59] <elkbuntu> jenda, the flu set me behind in that :(
[08:59] <jenda> elkbuntu: it's alright. I'll be away for a week anyway.
[08:59] <Burgundavia> http://twiki.softwarelivre.org/bin/viewfile/SoftwareLivreVS/DiaLiberdadeSoftware2005?filename=cartaz-peq.jpg
[08:59] <Burgundavia> one example
[09:00] <jenda> hmm, I have no clue about that permission thing on the site.
[09:01] <jenda> nevermind - I moved it to the posters section.
[09:08] <Madpilot> http://www.warbard.ca/temp/U-poster-SVGsketch2.png
[09:09] <jenda> ripoff ;)
[09:09] <jenda> It's brown, that's a plus...
[09:09] <Burgundavia> hmm, not so keen on the verbage
[09:10] <jenda> On the 'highway' thing?
[09:10] <Burgundavia> ya
[09:10] <jenda> s/dictionary/wiktionary
[09:11] <Madpilot> 'verbiage' - Burgundavia can't spell ;)
[09:11] <Madpilot> jenda, s/ripoff/inspired by ;)
[09:11] <jenda> :)
[09:12] <jenda> Madpilot: actually, although the wikitionary has no entry, dictionary.com does...
[09:12] <jenda> "<spelling, jargon> /ver'b*j/ A deliberate misspelling and
[09:12] <jenda> mispronunciation of verbiage that assimilates it to the word
[09:12] <jenda> "garbage". Compare content-free. More pejorative than
[09:12] <jenda> "verbiage"."
[09:12] <Madpilot> heh
[09:13] <jenda>
[09:24] <Madpilot> a bit silly, but not bad for less than 20 minutes knocking around in Inkscape: http://www.warbard.ca/temp/U-poster-SVGsketch3.png
[09:30] <jenda> cool ;)
[09:30] <jenda> But I still prefer the hand drawn one...
[09:31] <Burgundavia> ugh, a big grey swath
[09:32] <Madpilot> yeah, I prefer mine w/o the road, and the hand-drawn one is still cooler.
[10:11] <jenda> hello matthewrevell
[10:12] <matthewrevell> hi
[02:36] <jenda> MenZa: have a look at http://www.gasteropodica.net/ablage/ubuntu/ubuntu_idea01.jpg
[02:36] <jenda> (and hello :) )
[02:42] <nixternal> those are cool jenda ;)
[02:42] <nixternal> (and hello ;) )
[02:42] <jenda> I really like that. It was submitted by HanZo
[02:42] <matthewrevell> jenda: nice
[02:42] <matthewrevell> jenda: Copy could be a little snappier
[02:43] <matthewrevell> "The highway to freedom is open" for example
[02:43] <jenda> yes, he's working on more versions of the same.
[02:43] <jenda> aha
[02:43] <MenZa> not bad jenda
[02:43] <MenZa> they look nice
[02:44] <MenZa> especially the top one
[02:44] <jenda> yep :)
[02:44] <matthewrevell> jenda: when you say "submitted", where was it submitted to?
[02:44] <matthewrevell> Is there a competition, or something?
[02:44] <jenda> yes, lemme link
[02:45] <jenda> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=248546
[02:45] <MenZa> jenda: spefifically not you take nothing but vectors in.
[02:45] <MenZa> specifically*
[02:46] <matthewrevell> nice work dude
[02:46] <matthewrevell> I must keep up :)
[02:46] <jenda> matthewrevell: please do :)
[02:47] <jenda> and there is one more thread on that matter, linked in OP, where I try to probe the 'market'
[02:59] <elkbuntu> hey matthewrevell :)
[02:59] <matthewrevell> hey :)
[02:59] <jenda> yo, elkbuntu
[02:59] <elkbuntu> did you see the article, matthewrevell?
[03:00] <matthewrevell> elkbuntu: SMH? Not yet
[03:00] <matthewrevell> I've seen jdub's post about it
[03:00] <matthewrevell> how did it come about?
[03:00] <elkbuntu> need linkage?
[03:00] <matthewrevell> please :)
[03:00] <matthewrevell> brb
[03:00] <elkbuntu> she emailed me asking for infos.. and i panicked and ran screaming to jdub who helped me through it :)
[03:01] <elkbuntu> http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/linux-wins-over-new-fans/2006/09/04/1157222061911.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
[03:01] <matthewrevell> cool :)
[03:01] <matthewrevell> Thanks for the link
[03:24] <mdke> matthewrevell: here?
[04:01] <matthewrevell> hi :)
[04:06] <jenda> ya might have to ping him back... (mdke!!!)
[04:06] <matthewrevell> mdke: howdy :)
[04:06] <matthewrevell> jenda: Cheers jenda :)
[04:06] <jenda> ;)
[04:07] <matthewrevell> Would it be stupid of me to ask how to get irssi to alert me when my nick appears in a channel?
[04:07] <matthewrevell> I've Googled it, honestly :)
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> man irssi? :)
[04:12] <matthewrevell> Kamping_Kaiser: Yeah, irssi :)
[04:38] <matthewrevell> mgalvin: hey, long time no speak
[04:40] <mgalvin> matthewrevell: hey, yea, been really busy, i'm trying to get back to some ubuntu work finally
[04:40] <mgalvin> i'm glad to see the uwn is still alive and well :)
[04:44] <matthewrevell> Yeah, Corey and Rich have jumped into it
[04:50] <jenda> matthewrevell: I suspect Kamping_Kaiser wasn't saying "Irssi, man?", but rather "man irssi" :)
[04:50] <jenda> mgalvin: it seems the MT has taken the UWN up quite well ;) (unfortunately, with very little input from me)
[05:39] <jenda> MenZa: hello
[05:40] <jenda> Did you say the postage on those stickers was "$4,5 roughly"?
[08:11] <jenda> We haven't had a meeting since like... ever.
[09:24] <jenda> hehe


[01:10] <popey> AlanBell: you were looking for short URLs the other day http://two.vg/
[10:53] <czajkowski> Joeb454: can you help aquarius with 19:47 < aquarius> who do I talk to about having the Ubuntu One icon on  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11661766&postcount=33  updated to be the modern U1 logo? :)
[10:53] <czajkowski> please
[10:53] <aquarius> thanks czajkowski
[10:53] <czajkowski> akgraner: np
[10:53] <czajkowski> aquarius: np
[10:55] <czajkowski> technoviking: or you if you can help^^^
[10:55] <popey> file an RT ☺
[10:57] <aquarius> popey, man, that can't possibly be it
[10:58] <popey> IS run the infrastructure under the forums
[10:58] <popey> thats just an image in a folder, I'm sure they can help
[10:59] <duanedesign> popey: get your computer?
[11:00] <popey> yup duanedesign :D
[11:00] <duanedesign> :)
[11:00] <aquarius> popey, but that's the way *to* do it? It's not a forum configuration option?
[11:01] <popey> no idea, but filing an RT isnt a bad way to get it done
[11:01] <duanedesign> i had to order a replacement key for mine. I somehow managed to order a key for the T510 instead of 520...not the same. Close, but unfortunately close doeas not cut it in this scenario
[11:03] <popey> ☹
[11:06] <czajkowski> oh you're kidding me
[11:06] <czajkowski> at fosdem people having open networks
[11:06] <czajkowski> you can see files on their laptops
[11:06] <czajkowski> not going via https
[11:06] <duanedesign> popey: just grumbling about my issues trying to order a replacement key for my lenovo laptop
[11:06] <czajkowski> lots of firesheeping happening
[11:08]  * popey bets it's jon doing the firesheeping
[11:09] <czajkowski> andjames
[11:09] <czajkowski> I do have a bit of an evil bf :/
[11:09]  * popey is unsurprised
[11:09] <czajkowski> but if folks are stupid enough to come to a larger event like this and do stuff ...
[11:10] <czajkowski> numbers do seem down from last years 5K people
[11:10] <czajkowski> could be the snow, it's hampered transport getting here
[11:10] <popey> ah the usual excuse
[11:11] <popey> 'well if you're stupid enough to leave your door unlocked, you should expect me to walk into your house and fiddle with your stuff'
[11:11] <czajkowski> indeed
[16:12]  * cjohnston has had a productive morning
[16:18]  * popey tickles cjohnston
[16:18] <cjohnston> uh oh
[16:18]  * cjohnston runs
[18:34] <pleia2> cjohnston: I get to see you tomorrow \o/
[18:35] <pleia2> we made sure the weather is nice for you guys
[18:35] <cjohnston> what should I expext for weather?
[18:36] <pleia2> sunny, 50-60s
[18:36] <pleia2> it's pretty much always like this
[18:37] <cjohnston> sounds good
[18:37] <cjohnston> still haven't started packing
[18:37] <pleia2> hehe
[18:39] <cjohnston> Im wondering how much tsa is going to hate me carrying a board and a bunch of.cables and my lappy on board the plane
[18:42] <pleia2> I always carry a ton of that kind of stuff in my carryon
[18:42] <cjohnston> good
[18:56] <czajkowski> 5K attendees and over 430+talsk = FOSDEM LOVE IT
[19:23] <akgraner> cjohnston, I have a suitcase full of boards cables and 3 laptops - it
[19:23] <akgraner> it's always fun! :-)
[19:25] <cjohnston> akgraner:  sounds like your bringing me presents
[19:26] <akgraner> cjohnston, um no
[19:26] <cjohnston> :(
[19:26] <akgraner> I need extra machines for video rendering
[19:26] <akgraner> we are going to record and push the videos out the same day
[19:27] <cjohnston> gotcha
[19:28] <akgraner> sadly I have to admit I am bringing my mac air though
[19:28] <akgraner> I had a battery cell explode in it - got that changes out  - so I can do video so much easier on the mac
[19:29] <akgraner> if only something anything in Linux were that easy
[19:30] <cjohnston> gotcha
[19:30] <akgraner> it's been almost 4 years since I even used my mac lets hope I remember how
[19:30] <cjohnston> novacut doing the stuff or are you
[19:30] <akgraner> I had a ton of stuff to update - it was funny
[19:30] <akgraner> novacut will be there and recording
[19:30] <akgraner> filming
[19:31] <akgraner> I'm just helping brand the videos and stuff
[19:32] <cjohnston> gotcha
[19:32] <akgraner> I can't wait for dmedia to go into beta  - I'm dieing to try it out
[19:33] <akgraner> collaborative video editing but on Ubuntu
[19:33] <akgraner> woo hoo
[19:36] <cjohnston> heh
[19:36] <cjohnston> what time do you arrive tomorrow


[11:01] <man0riaX> Morning
[13:22] <cjay554> Hey everyone, just a bit of an intro to myself. My name is Chris and i've dedicated lots of time and effort to helping people use Ubuntu, from beginners to intermediates, over time i've felt that the same questions rise up and the same processes to fix the problem are issued. So i decided to make a Channel on YouTube to compile it all into a set of Videos. I always looked online for answers to some questions i myself had, and with time
[13:22] <cjay554>  i found that Videos, the easiest of all guides, weren't all that organized, so with this I was also encouraged to make this channel. I hope it makes of some use with the doc team, i myself am not very confident about my abilities, but i've had good feedback here and there. http://www.youtube.com/user/CJay554
[13:43] <Kangarooo> this channel is for documantation team and this team makes better wiki pages?
[13:44] <Kangarooo> i cant understand this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting#Manual%20Installation sub topic Another way to restore ALSA to the Ubuntu default
[13:45] <Kangarooo> "............ Here's a safer way that did. ............ That re-grabs all of the alsa binaries and modules." theres some command missing
[14:43] <Kangarooo> anybody alive?
[19:58] <Kangarooo> how can i see revisions of wiki page?
[20:02] <jpds> PageURL + ?action=info


[15:19] <flocculant> akxwi-dave: pretty sure that testing iso's currently is a complete waste of time ;)
[15:20] <flocculant> some flavours will be doing alpha1 in a couple of weeks - I suspect they'll whine louder
[15:20] <akxwi-dave> i noticed that mate.. Thought I'd give it another go.. just in case
[15:20] <flocculant> I didn't bother http://dev.xubuntu.org/#tab-qa this morning
[15:22] <flocculant> cyphermox: did you know that the iso's have ubi-console fail and then a full on crash later?
[15:29] <cyphermox> flocculant: yeah, I've had hints of some other issues
[15:29] <cyphermox> it was with the timezone plugin though
[15:31] <flocculant> mmm - you can at least get past that one, the newer one just crashes bug 1587555
[15:31] <cyphermox> so; let me finish dealing with sbsigntool SRUs now and libdebian-installer; those should just take 5 minutes; then I'll pull images and check them out
[15:31] <flocculant> bunch of dupes I found for that one too
[15:31] <cyphermox> ok
[15:32] <flocculant> can probably run ubiuity -d and add it to there if it would help
[15:33] <cyphermox> looks to be still the same issue: May 31 16:14:53 xubuntu /plugininstall.py: ubiquity.install_misc.InstallStepError: Plugin timezone failed with code 2
[15:34] <flocculant> cyphermox: ok - so beforehand we could force past the ubi-console issue and complete an install - but that now causes it to crash completely?
[15:35] <cyphermox> I don't know, tbh I haven't tried an install of yakkety with ubiquity yet
[15:35] <flocculant> I'll leave it in your wonderful care - looks like a case of voodoo to me :p
[15:35] <flocculant> aah right okey doke - ftr I've seen fail with qemu, vbox and hardware
[15:36]  * flocculant wanders off looking at bbq's
[15:36] <cyphermox> bbqs?
[15:36] <flocculant> yep - for cooking on :)
[15:36] <flocculant> barbecue
[15:36] <cyphermox> oh, cool
[15:36] <cyphermox> yeah
[15:37] <cyphermox> I have one back here, just rarely ever used in 4 years ;)
[15:37] <flocculant> I've no garden - but council have replaced concrete with grass \o/
[15:45] <akxwi-dave> cyphermox, i usually see timezone on the installer slider part when it crashes
[15:53] <cyphermox> akxwi-dave: yeah, it explodes when it tries to apply the changes for some reason
[15:54] <cyphermox> what we need to do is add 'set -x' to the right script that gets run in that case to see why it's unhappy
[20:51] <cyphermox> flocculant: were you picking a timezone in particular?
[20:52] <flocculant> cyphermox: nope - just letting it default to local (UK)
[20:53] <cyphermox> ok... works here. crap :)
[20:53] <flocculant> ha ha
[20:53] <flocculant> cyphermox: I assume you were testing ubuntu
[20:54] <cyphermox> yes
[20:54] <cyphermox> shouldn't really make a difference for this :/
[20:54] <flocculant> nope I agree
[20:54] <flocculant> but stranger things have happened :D
[20:54] <flocculant> cyphermox: and what locale are you? I could check that here
[20:55] <cyphermox> oh wait it just crashed
[20:55] <flocculant> phew ...
[20:55] <flocculant> sort of :)
[20:55] <flocculant> I never actually took much notice of where it got to when crashing
[20:56] <flocculant> seemed to be at different places tbh
[20:57] <cyphermox> ah, it wasn't the same, indeed
[20:57] <cyphermox> what I got was a crash for console-setup
[20:57] <cyphermox> seriously, wtf.
[20:58] <Unit193> I've found running ubiquity as root fixes a lot of problems. >_>
[20:58] <flocculant> cyphermox: how it's been going here is ubi-console-setup fails - but you could continue
[20:58] <flocculant> and the install would complete
[20:58] <flocculant> lately - continue ubi-c-s and it crashes later
[20:59] <cyphermox> sure, but it would still be nice to fix that too ;)
[20:59] <flocculant> yea ofc
[21:00] <cyphermox> looks like maybe a bad dpkg-maintscript-helper call for some reason?
[21:00] <cyphermox> well, install is running now, I'll see in a bit
[21:03] <flocculant> cyphermox: well if install is running - you got further than I do :D
[21:04] <cyphermox> no, it crashes later
[21:04] <flocculant> aah right - same then
[21:04] <cyphermox> yep
[21:04] <cyphermox> trying again, with moar debug.
[21:04] <flocculant> :)
[21:05] <flocculant> I never really know what to use to debug the thing
[21:05] <cyphermox> well, it really depends on what is broken
[21:05] <flocculant> heh
[21:05] <cyphermox> here I just added set -x to a few scripts to see what they do and where they fail
[21:06] <knome> what about boar debug, the trunky way to figure things out
[21:06] <flocculant> I debug like this > let apport chuck the bug report at launchpad :p
[21:06] <flocculant> evening knome
[21:06] <knome> hello flocculant
[21:07] <cyphermox> flocculant: that only works when your desk doesn't look like an aircraft cockpit
[21:08] <knome> interesting idea
[21:08] <flocculant> ha ha
[21:14] <cyphermox> ah, maybe /etc/default/rcS?
[21:19] <flocculant> night peeps
[22:26] <Unit193> bluesabre: Not sure if you've seen it yet, but: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2016/06/msg00002.html


[19:37] <Akshay> Hey
[19:37] <Akshay> Has anyone tried installing UEC on VirtualBox here?
[20:01] <ankit> hello all
[20:02] <ankit> guys i have a problem in ubuntu cloud, i just setup server and node controller
[20:03] <ankit> but when i run the instance of image from firefox it says first instance is setting up...then terminated, plz tell me where thi sinstance actually runs
[20:05] <ankit> plz help me...
[20:08] <ankit> huh... so many intelligent persons and no one is replyng why...?????
[20:11] <ankit> help me bros....