[09:17] <bjraz> TheInfinity: thank you
[09:18] <bjraz> TheInfinity: the version of Kubuntu I have still has 2.4
[09:18] <cpk1> any ideas why I would only be getting the left channel from my digital audio output?
[09:18] <TheInfinity> wrong alsa.conf or hardware problem
[09:19] <TheInfinity> bjraz: you must have a very old kubuntu version - i have 2.17 ...
[09:20] <cpk1> everything was working fine until i got back from vacation and now I have barely got it working again, shouldnt be hardware problem, what would i be looking for in alsa.conf?
[09:20] <exceswater> hi all
[09:20] <exceswater> !vlc
[09:20] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:23] <bjraz> TheInfinity: I'n trying to get glibc 2.5 on, this system still has 2.4  I have kubuntu 6.10
[09:24] <bjraz> and the adept manager only has upto bintuils2.4
[09:25] <TheInfinity> hmm ... problem of the sources.list?
[09:25] <bjraz> yeah
[09:26] <exceswater> hi guys
[09:26] <exceswater> who can help a noob ?
[09:26] <exceswater> with some small things ?
[09:27] <TheInfinity> if we can get it in 20 mins - then i have to go to university ;)
[09:28] <bjraz> TheInfinity: how do I install a .deb file for the most recent version, it says the file is in use at present
[09:29] <bjraz> I have "libc6-dbg_2.5-0ubuntu8_i386.deb"
[09:29] <TheInfinity> which file is used? the one you want to install or the one which is installed?
[09:29] <bjraz> I'm guessing glibc is in use
[09:30] <bjraz> yes, the one I want to upgrade
[09:30] <bjraz> libc6 is in use
[09:31] <bjraz> not glibc, sorry
[09:32] <TheInfinity> perhaps you should do it by updating your sources.list because there should be several dependencys?
[09:32] <bjraz> I don't know how to update it with out it erroring
[09:33] <bjraz> I have a different place I'd like to get my files from, casue its up to date
[09:34] <cpk1> exceswater: just say what the problem is then see if anyone knows the answer
[09:35] <bjraz> TheInfinity: the new version of libc6 came out 06-Jan-2007
[09:36] <bjraz> this is the site I'm at: http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[09:37] <TheInfinity> libc6 2.4.1ubuntu12 ?
[09:38] <TheInfinity> i think this site is a little outdated ...
[09:38] <bjraz> the new one is libc6 2.5-1ubuntu8
[09:38] <TheInfinity> hmm
[09:39] <bjraz> the new package is here: http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/
[09:39] <bjraz> its called libc6-dbg_2.5-0ubuntu8
[09:40] <TheInfinity> hmm on this way ... try to install it via konsole only or via boot cd
[09:40] <TheInfinity> i have to go to unisversity ... :/
[09:40] <bjraz> okay, can we figure this out later, I need some sleep myself
[09:41] <bjraz> TheInfinity: I added you to buddies, or Wached Nicks, or whatever its called
[09:44] <bjraz> TheInfinity: I'll catch you later
[09:56] <chuen> Hi. I interrupted apt-get and now can't use  Adept manager. I was using terminal (not running now) . How do I close apt-get?
[09:58] <mineur> !adeptfix
[09:58] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[09:59] <magnus_> newbie: I have diskfull ==> df gives me Available 0 and login using kubuntu doesn't work I just comes back to the login screen... My poblem is that ven if I delete files and run sudo apt-get clean I still have available 0
[10:00] <exceswater> 10x people
[10:00] <exceswater> i gave up ideea
[10:00] <Corpis> ok, now im back withmore dukb questions
[10:00] <exceswater> it's too hard for me
[10:00] <Corpis> trying to load eneymy territory
[10:00] <Corpis> keeps comming up saying ./setup.sh:289 not found
[10:01] <Corpis> am I loading it wrong?
[10:06] <sam_> any clue whats the best GL with NVIDA XGL or AIGLX?
 whats the best way to run beryl on edgy
[10:15] <mineur> nate_: aiglx is only supported for nvidia with the beta driver for the moment
[10:15] <sam_> hmm.. thanx
[10:15] <sam_> so its XGL then..
[10:16] <mineur> at the moment that's indeed the best way
[10:16] <sam_> Thx ciao
[10:18] <elyon> How can I enable numlock on startup?
[10:19] <mineur> gnome or kde?
[10:20] <elyon> kde
[10:20] <mineur> install numlockx
[10:21] <dwidmann> there's an easier way than that
[10:21] <elyon> dwidmann: What's that?
[10:21] <dwidmann> systemsettings -> keyboard
[10:22] <Corpis> is there a reason why enemy territory install is saying folders are missing or something?
[10:22] <Corpis> seems kinda weird
[10:22] <Corpis> that it isnt working just normall
[10:24] <elyon> dwidmann: Thank you.
[10:28] <chuen> Hi. Anyone help me with my apt-get query?
[10:29] <dwidmann> !adeptfix
[10:29] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:32] <chuen> ubotu: Will try, thx.
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Will try, thx. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <pvandewyngaerde> when playing knetwalk, it crashes when a level is finished
[10:34] <chuen> ubotu: That worked fine. Thanks for your help.
[10:34] <tobias__> ubotu is a bot
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <tobias__> :))
[10:35] <chuen> dwidmann: Thanks :)
[10:36] <tobias__> !wesnoth
[10:36] <ubotu> wesnoth: fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.8-1 (edgy), package size 1820 kB, installed size 4140 kB
[10:36] <dwidmann> chuen: you're welcome
[10:36] <tobias__> :D
[10:36] <pvandewyngaerde> #6  0xb7ee708b in KExtHighscore::PlayerInfos::submitScore ()   from /usr/lib/libkdegames.so.1 <= knetwalk c rash
[10:36] <elyon> How can I format a music player?  I need to reformat the disk on my mp3 player...
[10:37] <chuen> Is it possible to upgrade Java version using Adept Manager?
[10:37] <pvandewyngaerde> elyon: i would't risk it to format my music player
[10:38] <tobias__> it upgrades by itself I think
[10:38] <elyon> pvandewyngaerde: Well, it's really screwed up right now... I can add files, but not delete them.  When I delete them, they aren't visible in the file browser, but I can still play them from my mp3 player.
[10:38] <tobias__> !update java
[10:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about update java - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:38] <tobias__> err
[10:38] <tobias__> !adept
[10:38] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[10:38] <tobias__> check out the wiki
[10:39] <tobias__> it has autoupdate, from time to time it pops up in the right corner asking you if you want to update stuff
[10:39] <chuen> tobias: Thanks
[10:39] <tobias__> well, maybe not the right corner, depends on how your kubuntu looks like, but still it pops up in a corner somewhere:)
[10:40] <dwidmann> if you want to do it with adept, you'll have to add another repository first, most likely ... else, you could probably download the debs from the feisty repository
[10:41] <chuen> dwidmann: I ran into trouble at Konsole as another screen appeard *within* the console screen asking me to slscet 'OK' (which I couldn't, or didn't know how to)
[10:42] <elyon> chuen: You need to press TAB until the OK is highlighted ;)
[10:42] <elyon> Then press enter.
[10:42] <chuen> elyon: Ah! OK. I'll try it again - thanks.
[10:42] <elyon> chuen: No problem.
[10:43] <pvandewyngaerde> elyon: can't you format from within the music player ?
[10:43] <elyon> pvandewyngaerde: Thought I could, but I see no option for it (and the user guide doesn't mention it)
[10:43] <elyon> pvandewyngaerde: I've not been too happy with this player lol
[10:47] <bill> hello
[10:47] <nate_> hi
[10:48] <bill> got a quick question...
[10:48] <nate_> i probably  cant help cause im new to this, but felt like saying hi lol
[10:48] <bill> ah
[10:48] <nate_> ask your question tho im sure the others are reading
[10:50] <bill> hmm well...I just did a server install/kde-core install. I then installed linux-686. my grub shows a "server" kernel and a "generic" kernel. what is the difference?
[10:50] <nate_> boot with the 686 one i guess, all i know its better
[10:50] <anatoliy> what up
[10:51] <bill> which is the 686? generic or server..?
[10:55] <nate_> server i guess
[10:55] <nate_> try it
[11:03] <just-this-time> hi \o
[11:03] <just-this-time> simple q. what is the command line  command for installing a downloaded .deb package - skype for example
[11:05] <abattoir> just-this-time: 'sudo dpkg -i <path to file/name of file>'
[11:05] <abattoir> just-this-time: alternatively you could rt. click on that file ->Kubuntu Package Menu->Install Package
[11:06] <just-this-time> abattoir: tyvm
[11:06] <abattoir> np
[11:06] <just-this-time> sudo dpkg -i is alright for me
[11:14] <fr0sted> i got a proccess running , but even sudo kill -9 <pid> doesnt stop the proccess . how could i stop it ?
[11:15] <stdin> pray to the gods of linux
[11:16] <arbus> fr0sted: what process is this?
[11:16] <fr0sted> 28902 alarm     16   0 69500  25m  20m D    0  5.1   0:07.73 kdetv
[11:16] <fr0sted> it seems that it freezed, as i still hear the sound playing while the gui closed
[11:17] <fr0sted> and no ps command works. could see the pid with top only
[11:21] <arbus> fr0sted: The 'D' status means that the process is in uninterruptible sleep. usually means that it is tied up in some driver code. The kill signal will only be delivered when it comes out of this system call. does this happen repeatedly or only sometimes?
[11:22] <bill> im really impressed by kde...
[11:22] <bill> I used gnome for years
[11:22] <fr0sted> it happens when i close kdetv , only then . the gui closes the kdetv proccess is running as also the sound on the backround of kdetv
[11:22] <bill> and ive been experimenting with kde-core installs...very nice
[11:22] <fr0sted> and i cant use either lsof /dev/video to see whats happening
[11:23] <fr0sted> could be an nvidia driver fault ? whats the driver package to install it ?
[11:23] <fr0sted> and see if that is the problem
[11:24] <arbus> kdetv is just a front-end for the video4linux which uses tv tuner and the video card's DRI calls. the problem could be in both, though i suspect it could be the former.
[11:25] <arbus> does the same problem happen with other tv watcher programs - say tvtime?
[11:25] <fr0sted> someone gave me to add a module command in a file in /etc/modprobe.d but didnt fix the problem , and i got that problem long time now but cant find any solution . searched in lkml nothing found
[11:25] <fr0sted> yes. also tried mythtv (took me several days to isntall it but anyway) it happens all the time
[11:25] <arbus> is that the tuner module option? what tv card is being used?
[11:26] <fr0sted> the point is , that it doesnt happen always. but pretty ofte. i mean i could close the app 2-3 times and not to be happen , and on the 4th the problems to start
[11:26] <momal> When my pc boots into kubuntu (from around half way through the loading bar) i hear this noise, an alarm type noise. just a constant noise, once my computer gets to the desktop (after login) it stops. If i boot into windows it doens't happen. Any ideas what it is and how to stop it ? It just suddenly started to happen :S.
[11:27] <fr0sted> errors that i see when i run it from command line while this happens are: V4L2Grabber::~V4L2Grabber(): deleted.,kdetv: WARNING: V4L2Dev: VIDIOC_QBUF failed: Invalid argument , libzvbi:v4l2_stream_stop: Suspending stream.
[11:27] <fr0sted> after a reboot , and loging in kde , tv application starts automatically with sound and iamge
[11:27] <fr0sted> tv card: winfast tv2000 xp expert with cx chipset
[11:30] <arbus> fr0sted: are you able to tune into a specific channel clearly? are all frequencies tunable?
[11:30] <fr0sted> yes, thats not a problem
[11:30] <arbus> was this tuner autodetected or did you have to type in a tuner card type?
[11:31] <fr0sted> while its running it runs ok . well the quality is not the best, but had the same quality with mythtv , thats most likely a drivers problem for the quality , but i dont know on what section i should check for that hanging problem
[11:31] <fr0sted> autodetected
[11:35] <arbus> fr0sted: you may want to turn on the debug flag for the v4l driver and use dmesg to see which call in v4l is causing this D status. you could also use strace ("strace -eopen -f ....") to detect the syscall which causes kdetv to hang.
[11:35] <arbus> fr0sted: you could also try using tvtime to see if this is an issue with the way kdetv calls video4linux.
[11:35] <fr0sted> arbus,  i must say i did run dmesg but i couldnt figure out much , i am somehow newbie here
[11:36] <fr0sted> arbus,  tvtime has also the same problem
[11:37] <fr0sted> [17179587.580000]  ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:0a.0[A]  -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 169
[11:37] <fr0sted> [17179587.580000]  eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xe08a2000, 00:e0:7d:95:5d:0a, IRQ 169
[11:37] <fr0sted> this could be something maybe...
[11:37] <arbus> fr0sted: dmesg dumps messages put out by drivers. in your case you will have to turn on the debug flag while loading the driver to get detailed messages from v4l driver. I suppose you are using the bttv driver? Try "dmesg | grep bttv"
[11:38] <fr0sted> cx
[11:38] <fr0sted> leadet winfast uses a cx chipset
[11:39] <arbus> fr0sted: acpi/eth0 messages are from the ethernet chipset. i dont think they are related to the issue at hand
[11:39] <fr0sted> thats what grep gave me: http://mishu.eu.org/paste/view.php?id=3005
[11:39] <fr0sted> nothing suspicious
[11:41] <luca_b> Hello. Anyone expert with rsync here?
[11:44] <fr0sted> anyway. for the need of installation of nvidia drivers . on a intelp p. 4 with HT , i need first to install linux-386 ?
[11:45] <fr0sted> or 686
[11:48] <fr0sted> somehow uname -r doesnt give me the architecture i need
[11:49] <exceswater> @offtopic
[11:49] <exceswater> !offtopic
[11:49] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:53] <animimotus> hello
[11:54] <animimotus> for jabber (n kopete) the only port to open are 5222 and 5223 for jabber-ssl ?
[11:54] <animimotus> * in
[12:00] <arbus> fr0sted: you may want to try with nv driver first to rule out issues with nvidia driver and then try set bttv module loading options with "debug=1" flag to catch internal errors in the v4l driver.
[12:00] <fr0sted> okie, thank u i am installing allready nvidia drivers.
[12:01] <fr0sted> found this: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[12:01] <fr0sted> but i dont know if its the best guide
[12:01] <stdin> the ubuntu help page tell you how to get the latest driver too
[12:05] <fr0sted> i dont think its installed. did the steps followed. installed the latest linux-generic
[12:05] <fr0sted> also nvidia-glx
[12:06] <fr0sted> but on glxinfo i see. client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporationclient glx version string: 1.4 . OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[12:06] <enigm4> hi all
[12:06] <enigm4> i've a big problem
[12:06] <fr0sted> according to the instructions it should be OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
[12:07] <flaccid> hi guys. sorry to trouble just wondering if anybody has the font called malayalam that is english??
[12:07] <codyt> I was able to use apt-get to install my nvidia drivers.
[12:07] <codyt> Dunno about Drapper, though.
[12:07] <codyt> I'm on Edgy.
[12:08] <stdin> I'm on Feisty :)
[12:08] <enigm4> my keyboard works during the boot of the live cd, when X runs it stops to work... so i changed it adn it work... i installed it... i rebooted with the new keyboard... and it does not works....
[12:08] <enigm4> what cha i do_
[12:08] <enigm4> ??
[12:08] <enigm4> can**
[12:10] <enigm4> no one?
[12:11] <codyt> I'd use an unstable release if I had faster internet.
[12:12] <codyt> with my luck, I'd get some kind of critical bug in mine, then not be able to get the updates required to fix it.
[12:21] <chuen> Hi. Can anyone recommend an app for analysing web  log files (other than analog) that's easy to configure?
[12:23] <arbus> chuen: how about webalizer?
[12:26] <arbus> enigm4: boot up uses console while X uses its own keyboard settings. See xmodmap for details. Are you sure you selected the right keyboard for X?
[12:27] <chuen> arbus: I'll take a look. It's not for stats from a serevr runing locally, but client's raw stats from *their* servers.
[12:28] <MaxDamage``> hey guys, i got a huge problem
[12:28] <MaxDamage``> i can't switch to a resolution higher that 640x480
[12:28] <MaxDamage``> :/
[12:29] <arbus> chuen: do you mean an offline log analysis?
[12:29] <MaxDamage``> any ideas would be welcome
[12:29] <flaccid> i did an offline one recently. i think it was webalizer
[12:30] <arbus> MaxDamage: could you be more specific? is this from a live CD? what video card? what monitor?
[12:30] <flaccid> MaxDamage``: load the correct drivers?
[12:30] <MaxDamage``> oh
[12:30] <chuen> arbus: Yes. I collect their stats usually via FTP. Used to check 'em in Winodoze but ditched it :)
[12:30] <chuen> arbus: webalizer looks like it could be ok.
[12:30] <MaxDamage``> they're loaded :p
[12:30] <chuen> arbus: will see if it has a 'deb' install.
[12:30] <MaxDamage``> ati/fglrx
[12:31] <chuen> arbus: Doh! just found it :)
[12:31] <chuen> arbus: in adept.
[12:32] <MaxDamage``> i selected ATi Radeon
[12:32] <MaxDamage``> be right back
[12:32] <karmikaze> hrmm im trying to play this java game, but firefox says i have a missing plugin, jre
[12:32] <karmikaze> but i have jre...
[12:32] <karmikaze> !java applet
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java applet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <stdin> karmikaze: do you have the plugin ?
[12:33] <karmikaze> i have sun jre
[12:33] <stdin> karmikaze: you need this too: sun-java5-plugin
[12:34] <karmikaze> ah ty
[12:34] <stdin> np :)
[12:34] <MaxDamage``> it didnt work :/
[12:42] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[12:42] <ForgeAus> my WinXP died
[12:42] <codyt> out of curiousity, has anyone registered with the linux counter?
[12:43] <MaxDamage``> it eventually does
[12:43] <MaxDamage``> :p
[12:43] <codyt> ForgeAus, sounds like WinXP.
[12:43] <ForgeAus> especially with what I do with it! lol
[12:43] <MaxDamage``> !windows
[12:43] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[12:43] <MaxDamage``> :p
[12:43] <ForgeAus> I don't want help with it!
[12:43] <ForgeAus> I can always repair install
[12:43] <MaxDamage``> i know :P
[12:43] <ForgeAus> if that even works
[12:43] <MaxDamage``> just joking with the bot
[12:43] <codyt> haha
[12:44] <codyt> my XP box has trojans and such on it.
[12:45] <codyt> Lots of people used it while I was away for 8months, and no one knew how to clean it.
[12:46] <ForgeAus> hmmm
[12:47] <codyt> now it's a bit of a mess, and I can't stand to use it.
[12:47] <codyt> don't have any recovery CDs or such.
[12:49] <dr3as> a question, why can't i find the libgimpprint-dev package
[12:49] <dr3as> running edgy
[12:50] <Alarm> hello . i just installed the new nvidia drivers but now my kdetv doesnt find any device . mplayer and other media players play normal videos
[12:51] <Alarm> it shows the error :kdetv: WARNING: [VBIDecoder::restart()]  no permission to access device
[12:53] <nino> !mp3
[12:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:55] <MaxDamage``> still having that resolution problem... :/
[01:00] <mushroom> aloha
[01:01] <tarden> hey can somone help me_
[01:01] <tarden> ?
[01:01] <tarden> DCOP communications error (KMess) /Could not read network connection list. /home/tarden/.DCOPserver_ip6-allhosts__0
[01:01] <tarden> anyone know what that is about?
[01:03] <tarden> anyone?....
[01:03] <spawn57> shot in the dark, looks like you got ipv6 enabled
[01:03] <tarden> should i disable that_
[01:03] <tarden> ?
[01:04] <spawn57> it gave me problems iwth my network card, mainly with msn
[01:04] <spawn57> and i doubt you're using it
[01:05] <tarden> i want do logg on on my net pasport but can\t inst msn msg u know ant good prog for logon msn_
[01:05] <spawn57> msn messenger?
[01:05] <tarden> yeha
[01:05] <tarden> yeah
[01:05] <spawn57> kopete, kmess and gaim are the most popular
[01:05] <spawn57> and amsn I think
[01:06] <tarden> my gaim dont work
[01:06] <tarden> cant connect with it
[01:06] <spawn57> everything or just msn?
[01:06] <spawn57> cos then you might have the same problem I did
[01:07] <tarden> dun cant inst msn but u know how to login with gaim?
[01:07] <spawn57> um, not really, i just remember setting up accounts on it once
[01:08] <spawn57> try this
[01:08] <fildo> flaccid sucks my nuts
[01:08] <spawn57> type in the command sudo modprobe -r ipv6 in a shell, like konsole, and log into msn with kmess again
[01:09] <flaccid> and they are salty
[01:10] <tarden> it ask for password my pass or anyone els?
[01:10] <spawn57> yours
[01:10] <spawn57> the one you log in with
[01:11] <tarden> get msg FATAL: Module ipv6 is in use.
[01:12] <tarden> kmess still hates me
[01:12] <spawn57> ah dammit
[01:12] <spawn57> alright, do this then
[01:12] <spawn57> sudo -i , type in you password
[01:13] <spawn57> then type echo blacklist ipv6 > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ipv6
[01:14] <tarden> all that or just echo blacklist ipv6
[01:14] <stdin> !ipv6
[01:14] <spawn57> all that
[01:14] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:14] <spawn57> oh even better
[01:14] <stdin> and "echo blacklist ipv6 | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ipv6" would work too :)
[01:15] <spawn57> what's tee do?
[01:15] <stdin> tee (1)              - read from standard input and write to standard output and files
[01:15] <tarden> then after that?
[01:15] <spawn57> ah just manned it, it's just like redirection
[01:15] <the-erm> Has anyone had problems with the screen saver not functioning properly I get a big X when I let it naturally time out, and it doesn't lock me out like I've requested either.
[01:16] <the-erm> I though maybe ... xscreensaver was running, but it's not.
[01:16] <spawn57> tarden, double check it, type in cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ipv6 , if it should say blacklist ipv6 on your screen.
[01:16] <stdin> the-erm: that's not the main screensaver, that's the "blanking", turn it off with "xset s off"
[01:16] <spawn57> tarden: if it does, then reboot and try logging in, should work fine
[01:17] <the-erm> Does that need to be ran every time stdin?
[01:17] <tarden> yeah get blacklist
[01:18] <spawn57> "blacklist ipv6" ?
[01:18] <tarden> y
[01:18] <spawn57> arlight
[01:18] <spawn57> reboot
[01:18] <stdin> the-erm: unless you comment out "Option          "DPMS"" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:18] <the-erm> ok thanks stdin.
[01:18] <the-erm> I appreciate your help.
[01:18] <stdin> np :)
[01:20] <the-erm> odd DPMS doesn't exist ... in xorg.conf.
[01:21] <the-erm> It's no biggie I'll just add the command to ~/.kde/AutoStart
[01:21] <stdin> it's under "Section "Monitor"" for me
[01:22] <spawn57> stdin: i'm stepping out for a walk, mind helping tarden with the ipv6 problem if he still needs it?
[01:22] <stdin> spawn57: sure, it's not too difficult :)
[01:23] <spawn57> haha trying to figure that out drove me nuts,  I installed edgy when it first released
[01:24] <the-erm> stdin: http://the-erm.com/~erm/monitor.txt
[01:24] <tarden> hey
[01:24] <the-erm> As you can see it's not there :)
[01:24] <tarden> now i rebootet
[01:24] <tarden> now what?
[01:24] <spawn57> tarden: log into msn with kmess
[01:24] <stdin> the-erm: yeah, well it was for me :P
[01:26] <tarden> still same error msg /btw allways can login just it freez and all my contatcs are gone
[01:26] <spawn57> tarden: oh, I never had that problem =O
[01:26] <stdin> don't know why DCOP is using ipv6
[01:27] <stdin> does it happen for other users ?
[01:27] <tarden> ip6 just my host name :S
[01:27] <spawn57> tarden: I dont' think I can help you with that.
[01:27] <spawn57> tarden: ah
[01:28] <tarden> btw dos it matter what host name i have?
[01:28] <spawn57> tarden: hmm one last thing you can try is to rename/delete the .kmess settings folder in you home directory, see if that works
[01:28] <stdin> ip6-allhosts is a hostname for ff02::3
[01:29] <andreasw> hi
[01:29] <tarden> and what if i dont have .kmess folder att all :S
[01:29] <spawn57> I'm off, later guys.  g'luck tarden I don't what's wrong
[01:30] <spawn57> you should, folders starting with . are hidden by default
[01:31] <Gost> df
[01:31] <tarden> still dont have .kmess
[01:34] <tarden> well nvm ^^ after that ipv6 disable i can use gaim
[01:34] <ForgeAus> ipv6 is a problem?
[01:34] <tarden> seems like that
[01:34] <tarden> cant connect to any comunicator prog with it on
[01:35] <tarden> iofs maybe that just me
[01:35] <roel_bzy> hello i have an broadcom wireless network card. It's working with fwcutter but I can't connect to a wep protected network???
[01:37] <tarden> well anyone know / one say ago i did ride the bus in 2 town and some guy sat with his laptop with linux and u know workplace <IP_ADDRESS> he just pressed somthing and moved his mouse around and desktop move like turning.. anyone know what that is?
[01:39] <stdin> tarden: sounds like looking glass
[01:40] <stdin> http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/ and https://lg3d-core.dev.java.net/
[01:44] <tarden> ok ty
[01:44] <andreasw> Until they invent 3D Input Devices all the 3D Desktops are just eye candy ;)
[01:45] <tarden> ^^
[01:45] <andreasw> I think in far future we won't have any keyboard or monitor
[01:45] <andreasw> all is pluged into your brain ;)
[01:46] <andreasw> and than linux uses the wrong modelines and your brain explodes ;)
[01:46] <tarden> haha
[01:47] <tarden> wel c u guys gonna reboot
[01:47] <andreasw> bye
[01:54] <tarden> hey agian well where can i get that thing so i can cast around my desktop?
[01:55] <andreasw> tarden, <stdin> http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/ and https://lg3d-core.dev.java.net/
[01:55] <tarden> ty i did forgett to save it before i rebooted doh :P
[01:55] <[StingRay] > Hi stdin :)
[01:56] <stdin> hey [StingRay]
[01:57] <morti1s> anybody updated to 7.04?
[01:58] <Jucato> considering it's still in alpha... nope...
[01:58] <stdin> well, I installed it, didn't update tho
[01:58] <Jucato> only brave souls :)
[01:58] <morti1s> hehe
[01:58] <Jucato> or crazy ones
[01:58] <morti1s> i'm installing it
[01:59] <Jucato> !feisty
[01:59] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[01:59] <Jucato> be sure to be there ^^^^^
[02:00] <morti1s> one hour remaining
[02:00] <morti1s> it'll be interesting to see if it boots
[02:00] <roel_bzy> does anyone know how I can fix my broadcom wireless card? It can't connect to wireless network but it can scan the networks.
[02:02] <[StingRay] > Hey, stdin. For how long are you using posix OS-es? (10 years ?)
[02:03] <stdin> [StingRay] : yeah, I've used linux for 10 yeays
[02:03] <[StingRay] > stdin, just trying to guess ;)
[02:03] <stdin> since I was 10 :)
[02:03] <Jucato> ouch..
[02:03] <Jucato> 10+10 = 20...
[02:03] <[StingRay] > And I bet English is your native?
[02:04] <stdin> yep
[02:04] <stdin> Jucato: yep, i'm 20
[02:04] <[StingRay] > stdin, ;) I'd better go for a lotto.
[02:04] <stdin> heh
[02:05] <Jucato> ugh... I'm almost 24.. and I've only used Linux for a year... :(
[02:06] <stdin> my 1st distro was mandrake, the I bought a suse 8.2 disk and used that for a while, then I went to debian and used that for years
[02:07] <roel_bzy> i'm also 24 and i'm using kubuntu for three weeks
[02:07] <Jucato> hehe :)
[02:07] <roel_bzy> and its very hard i must say. Nothing comes without a fight
[02:07] <andreasw> I switched back from kubuntu to ubuntu yesterday
[02:07] <roel_bzy> first old ati card (fixed it with fglrx). Now my wireless networkcard broadcom that doesn't work
[02:08] <stdin> I've always prefired KDE over Gnome
[02:08] <morti1s> me too
[02:08] <roel_bzy> and after that i need to find a solution about my usb headset
[02:09] <[StingRay] > stdin, I found a resolution for my problem with the messed order of subwindows in wine(Virtual Desktop). The last problem is that a guy posted bug 4505, thus making all wine apps run in one virtual desktop.
[02:09] <[StingRay] > stdin, imho there should be an option in winecfg to each user to choose.
[02:10] <jean-b> hello there
[02:10] <stdin> [StingRay] : well, make a wish bug for it :)
[02:10] <codyt> sup
[02:10] <[StingRay] > If I cannot resolve this I have to make a terminal session for each wine app.Some users work with 2 or more of the same app
[02:10] <bartist> codyt, i received your messages very late yesterday
[02:11] <bartist> i did not respond you
[02:11] <[StingRay] > :), stdin
[02:11] <bartist> i am sorry
[02:11] <bartist> i left my pc and forgot to quit the chat
[02:11] <codyt> ah
[02:11] <bartist> but thanx for your help
[02:11] <codyt> no biggy.
[02:12] <bartist> i am still without sounds
[02:12] <codyt> you're welcome.
[02:12] <bartist> when i run alsamixer in konsole
[02:12] <roel_bzy> if i connect to an wireless network, should my not wireless network be disabled or not?
[02:13] <ForgeAus> hmm
[02:13] <bartist> it says my card is Intel 82801CA-ICH3 with a chip: Realtek ALC101
[02:13] <bartist> i think it is the wrong chip
[02:13] <bartist> isn't it?
[02:15] <bartist> ??
[02:16] <codyt> Thought Realtek was ethernet.. but they might do more than that.
[02:16] <codyt> oh
[02:16] <codyt> Realtek Semiconductor
[02:16] <bartist> that is the point
[02:16] <codyt> they probably do more than just ethernet.
[02:17] <bartist> may be alsamixer think my audio card is an ethernet card
[02:17] <codyt> probably not.
[02:17] <bartist> although my ethernet card works fine
[02:17] <bartist> i think my chip should be AC97
[02:18] <Grumpf> hi there
[02:18] <codyt> my soundcard on the other computer is a Realtek AC97
[02:19] <codyt> although, I can't even get Linux to boot up properly on it.
[02:19] <bartist> arffff
[02:20] <bartist> i dont want to remove linux and reinstall windows just because af a sound issue
[02:20] <codyt> Hrm.
[02:21] <codyt> no, we wouldn't want that..
[02:22] <Grumpf> i have just installed kubuntu (Edgy Eft) and am now trying to get WLAN running. i figured out i need a newer version of madwifi for my Atheros chip. i downloaded the package and now i am trying to go through the install process. How do i check the options in the kernel .config file?
[02:22] <bartist> my audio controller is intel corp 82801CA/CAM AC'97
[02:22] <codyt> I forget how long it took me to get my sound working with Gentoo..
[02:23] <bartist> but i had NO PROBLEM with ubuntu dapper!!
[02:23] <bartist> and it worked a bit on kubuntu edgy
[02:23] <stdin> Grumpf: the .config is saved as /boot/config-`uname -r`
[02:23] <blue|palm|palm>
[02:24] <codyt> bartist, I don't recommend it yet, but if all else fails you might be able to get a cheap PCI soundcard that you're sure is supported by linux.
[02:25] <blue|palm> !adeptfix
[02:25] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[02:25] <bartist> arf ................
[02:25] <Grumpf> stdin. how do i access it? konqueror shows only "home" and "media" in the topmost directory.
[02:25] <bartist> i should start thinking of replacing my laptop
[02:25] <n0ne> heyal
[02:25] <bartist> it is 6 yo
[02:25] <stdin> Grumpf: you can just go to /boot in the address bar
[02:26] <stdin> !hidden | Grumpf
[02:26] <ubotu> Grumpf: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[02:26] <Jucato> just type it in Grumpf
[02:26] <soulrider> does anyone here have an LCD monitor? I see a darker spot, does it mean the pixels are dead ?
[02:27] <lombra> e ai povo. alguem usa roundcube por aqui?!
[02:27] <codyt> I have a darker spot because I had to travel with my monitor, and weight was put on it.
[02:27] <dwidmann> doesn't mean its neccessarily dead, it might have just gotten dull
[02:27] <codyt> and I also have an annoying purple line going down it.
[02:27] <blue|palm> if knetworkmanager doesnt find any wireless networks, but wireless assisten does, is there anything i could do?
[02:28] <codyt> sucks, 'cause I got the monitor only a month before it got damaged.
[02:28] <blue|palm> wireless assistant
[02:28] <dwidmann> is it still under any sort of warranty codyt?
[02:28] <[StingRay] > stdin, do you have experience with Gbit ethernet NICs? I hear people complaining about bottlenecks with 1Gbit NICs. Can you suggest a stable model from D-link? I have to set 3 PC-s with real 1
[02:28] <codyt> probably not, seeing how I let excessive weight be put onit.
[02:28] <blue|palm> another thing, are there known issues over usb hdd problems?
[02:29] <[StingRay] > real 1 Gbit thoughput, stdin
[02:29] <codyt> Damaging the product yourself usually voids waranty.
[02:29] <codyt> although, I didn't have a lot of choice.
[02:29] <zerozero> i recently upgraded to edgy from dapper by resinstalling, before I didn't have any video problems but it seems like edgy doesn't have my driver, how do I find the right driver so I can increase my resolution?
[02:29] <dwidmann> erm, they don't need to know what happened, hehe
[02:29] <[StingRay] > I read the hardware compatiblity but, realtek in not the best choice imho...stdin
[02:30] <stdin> [StingRay] : no, all I gave is 100Mbit cards, tho I have heard of bottlenecks in Gbit models
[02:30] <spawn57> zerozero: you need to download the restricted modules package to support your video card properly
[02:30] <codyt> I'm sure they've had people send in monitors that had been damaged by the customer,  and would quickly recognize it.
[02:31] <spawn57> zerozero: there's a for all those things in one of kubuntu's pages ..um..
[02:31] <spawn57> !mp3
[02:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:31] <spawn57> that's the place
[02:32] <[StingRay] > ok, thanks, stdin.
[02:32] <bartist> codyt you should try
[02:32] <bartist> you have nothing to loose
[02:32] <codyt> I'd have to pay to ship my monitor, surely.
[02:32] <codyt> Then if they denied me, I'd have to pay to have it shipped back.
[02:33] <dwidmann> codyt, you might be able to do a dropoff/pickup depending where they want it done at
[02:33] <codyt> I'll look into it.
[02:33] <zerozero> spawn57: thanks
[02:34] <spawn57> zerozero np
[02:34] <[StingRay] > Does anybody here own a Gbit ethernet controller? Can you share if you can reach the real throughput and which is your model?
[02:35] <ForgeAus> you mean like a Marvell Yukon?
[02:35] <dwidmann> I've got two of them, unfortunately, the rest of the computers in my house don't have them, so I can't really use them for what they are.
[02:35] <ForgeAus> heheh lol dwid
[02:35] <dwidmann> Mine are Marvell and NForce4 ... integrated
[02:35] <ForgeAus> you could always wire it to a router that connects to the other two some otherhow
[02:36] <ForgeAus> mines Marvell integrated into and Asus M/B (I would have preferred an Intel one but oh well)
[02:36] <dwidmann> that's not it, the problem is that the other two computers only have megabit ethernet cards
[02:36] <spawn57> ForgeAus: same here, i got a god damn realtek one
[02:37] <spawn57> 100mbps?
[02:37] <mineur> yeah
[02:37] <spawn57> or are you one some sorta bus coaxil one?
[02:37] <spawn57> ah thank god
[02:37] <dwidmann> oops
[02:37] <mineur> nah just regunar 100mbit :)
[02:37] <mineur> *regular
[02:37] <dwidmann> 'twas what I meant ... I scared myself there for a second
[02:37] <[StingRay] > ForgeAus, I am not speaking about a certain model, just Gbit ethernet controller with the corresponding network tehcnology for you to test the throughput.
[02:38] <spawn57> I read token ring was hell to manage haha
[02:38] <dwidmann> after I read what I said ... I'm like that sometimes
[02:38] <manu_> hi @ all
[02:39] <codyt> hi
[02:40] <manu_> i'm using kubuntu and on kde i put icons/links of my devices (hard disk drives) on the desktop (i think i made a drag n drop of konqueror, now my problem is i cant rename the icons as i want (e.g. windows, fat32, ntfs, reiserfs,...) he says permission denied, but i copied as user (not as root) on my kanotix it is working (rename with f2)
[02:40] <manu_> can you help?
[02:41] <dwidmann> manu: try typing this in a terminal: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~/Desktop/*
[02:42] <Jucato> manu_: how did you make the icons on your desktop?
[02:42] <mineur> !webcam
[02:42] <blue|palm> soulrider: I found the problem with my kubuntu booting... it seems having my external hdd in during booting was causing it to crash, every time, so booting without it in works fine
[02:42] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:42] <ForgeAus> icons on the desktop are easy enough
[02:42] <[StingRay] > Will a GBit network card using driver RTL-8139C be able to reach more than 100 Mbit?
[02:43] <ForgeAus> I even managed to make a Trash one! (emulating the link which was strangely a url (kioslave?) to trash:/ hehe)
[02:43] <manu_> Jucato: its some weeks ago i thought i just copied them from media:/
[02:43] <mace__> hi, i couldnt reactivate my eht0 device after using "ifconfig eth0 down". i just used "ifconfig eht0 up" but it didnt work. am i doing something wrong?
[02:43] <codyt> bartist, what mixer do you use?
[02:43] <blue|palm> Is anybody here using an ATI card?
[02:43] <bartist> kmix
[02:43] <bartist> and alsamixer
[02:43] <manu_> if i add one with right click add device, it says hda1 (e.g.) is unmounted, but its mounted in fstab
[02:44] <manu_> he mounts the devices while booting Jucato
[02:44] <mineur> [StingRay] : My guess would be yes.... but not giving guarentees :d
[02:44] <bartist> the thing that i can not understand is that it worked fine in ubuntu dapper
[02:44] <bartist> how can it bug in kubuntu edgy?
[02:44] <Jucato> hmm..
[02:44] <[StingRay] > thanks mineur
[02:44] <[StingRay] > stdin,  Will a GBit network card using driver RTL-8139C be able to reach more than 100 Mbit?
[02:44] <blue|palm> can anybody tell me how to install .deb packages?
[02:44] <bartist> just click on them
[02:45] <bartist> bkuepalm
[02:45] <dwidmann> bartist: updated software = out with the old bugs, in with the new?
[02:45] <blue|palm> it opens up ark
[02:45] <morti1s> blue|palm, dpkg -i [.deb]
[02:45] <blue|palm> thanks
[02:45] <[StingRay] > is the driver shomehow limiting bandwith? stdin
[02:45] <bartist> it must be that dwidmann
[02:45] <bartist> i'll try installing kubuntu dapper
[02:45] <stdin> [StingRay] : it's should go with the hardware limit, but it may be limiting
[02:46] <bartist> i should replace my laptop
[02:46] <stdin> [StingRay] : you can try the other driver for it
[02:46] <bartist> when do you think it is a good time?
[02:46] <[StingRay] > stdin, I took this example from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCardsDlink
[02:46] <bartist> because there is this hd dvd vs blue ray
[02:46] <bartist> and also i prefer to wait until vista
[02:47] <dwidmann> Why wait til vista? It'll add to the cost
[02:47] <[StingRay] > I don't have the card yet...just wanted to make sure if will be able to have the full bandwith, stind. I will search then for 528-T
[02:47] <bartist> because it always come with windows, so it is better to wait until vista
[02:47] <bartist> ...
[02:48] <stdin> [StingRay] : it should abide by the hardware limits
[02:48] <Grumpf> ok.. madwifi make was successful (i think). what do i have to do now to set up the networking? Install file says "after installing, your need to run modprobe ath_pci" i did it, but nothing happens when i do. iwconfig still says "no wireless extension" on all slots
[02:48] <codyt> why vista??
[02:48] <bartist> anyway what do you recommend: asus, del?
[02:48] <bartist> well because i live in a world with a system
[02:48] <bartist> and this system uses vista ...
[02:48] <dwidmann> already?
[02:48] <codyt> icky.
[02:49] <morti1s> all right
[02:49] <bartist> wo far i have no windows in my pc
[02:49] <morti1s> wish me luck, i'm going to try to boot 7.04 ;/
[02:49] <bartist> but if i have no soind in the coming week
[02:49] <bartist> i ll have to reinstall it
[02:49] <codyt> Although... I really wouldn't mind seeing how many ways I can break vista
[02:49] <codyt> but.. it's not worth the purchase.
[02:49] <[StingRay] > stdin, one last thing :). Is (k)ubuntu 6.06 able to make use of SATA2? If so, can you point me to a good chipset.
[02:49] <dwidmann> bartist, easiest way might be to get a pci sound card
[02:50] <dwidmann> or pcmcia, or whatever they are
[02:50] <bartist> if you find me a pc retailer who sells pc without win,  fax me
[02:50] <codyt> did mention that earlier.
[02:50] <dwidmann> system76?
[02:50] <mineur> bartist: plenty of them where I live
[02:50] <codyt> google for "no os pc"?
[02:50] <Grumpf> how do i load modules?
[02:50] <bartist> where do you live mineur?
[02:50] <mineur> Belgium
[02:51] <codyt> Grumpf, modprobe
[02:51] <mineur> but you can always assemble a pc yourself...
[02:51] <bartist> frites & beer =)
[02:51] <mineur> hell yeah! lol
[02:51] <bartist> i know, but i need a laptop
[02:51] <Grumpf> codyt: dos this usually give a response or something?
[02:51] <mineur> a laptop might be trickier, but there are laptop resellers who do it
[02:51] <codyt> not if it was successful.
[02:52] <bartist> do you recommend asus, dell?
[02:52] <acemo> i think my device section in my xorg.conf is a bit too small :S here is my device section of my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2022/
[02:52] <mineur> I have a Toshiba myself
[02:52] <codyt> like, to load the usb_storage module it'd be "modprobe usb_storage"
[02:52] <stdin> [StingRay] : I think it can, tho I don't have SATA, but this is a good place to check http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/
[02:53] <[StingRay] > Thanks, stdin!
[02:53] <stdin> :)
[02:53] <codyt> Dell *claims* they love the penguin, but when I tried to configure a linux desktop, the only option for OS was FreeDOS.
[02:53] <bartist> freedos????!!!!!
[02:53] <bartist> what is that?
[02:53] <codyt> yep
[02:53] <Grumpf> ok so i got no respone - i assume module is loaded now? why is the wlan chip still inactive then?
[02:53] <codyt> an OS I'm unfamliar with.
[02:53] <dwidmann> bartist, sure as ...... ain't linux.
[02:53] <mineur> I know someone who lost his warranty for installing linux on a dell.... but years ago... not sure how their policy is now
[02:54] <codyt> Grumpf,
[02:54] <codyt> lsmod | grep -i module_name
[02:54] <morti1s> $ cat /etc/issue
[02:54] <morti1s> Ubuntu feisty (development branch) \n \l
[02:54] <morti1s> :)
[02:55] <codyt> Ubuntu 6.10 \n \l
[02:55] <codyt> doesn't even say edgy.
[02:55] <dwidmann> edgy eft = development codename ... supposedly they use the number after it hits release time ...
[02:55] <codyt> Grumpf, did you find that it was loaded?
[02:56] <mineur> and on my Toshiba.... warranty has expured already.... but I never had to claim it, I'm a satisfied Toshiba customer :)
[02:56] <codyt> Ah.
[02:56] <Grumpf> codyt, yes, there were some lines
[02:56] <Jucato> lsb_release -a
[02:56] <stdin> dwidmann: no, it's just the name of it
[02:56] <thoreauputic> codyt:  try   lsb_release -a
[02:56] <stdin> or lsb_release -r
[02:56] <stdin> or lsb_release -c
[02:56] <stdin> :)
[02:57] <codyt> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[02:57] <codyt> Description:    Ubuntu 6.10
[02:57] <codyt> Release:        6.10
[02:57] <codyt> Codename:       edgy
[02:57] <codyt> fancy.
[02:57] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:58] <codyt> heh
[02:58] <codyt> didn't know x-chat automatically auto-replaces "teh" with "the"
[02:59] <morti1s> that's good coding
[02:59] <thoreauputic> codyt: you can make it replace any string you like in fact
[02:59] <morti1s> save the language
[02:59] <arbus> bartist: Acer sells notebook without win. you can then install MEPIS (kubuntu derivative) in about 20 mins.
[02:59] <codyt> thoreauputic, noticed.
[02:59] <codyt> (:
[03:00] <codyt> was digging through menus.
[03:00] <thoreauputic> right
[03:00] <ForgeAus> simplyMEPIS
[03:00] <dwidmann> acer sells win-free notebooks? My interest has been sparked
[03:00] <ForgeAus> whats MEPIS got or removed that Kubnutnu hasn't?
[03:00] <codyt> oh really?
[03:00] <ForgeAus> grr kubntu
[03:01] <b111> yo yo Kubuntu people
[03:01] <b111> i'm using kubuntu for the first time
[03:01] <b111> i love it
[03:02] <codyt> that's a good start, b111
[03:02] <b111> thanx codyt
[03:02] <arbus> dwidmann: acer aspire 3682 (intel) aspire 5101 (amd) are both win-free.
[03:02] <codyt> win-free or OS-free?
[03:02] <mineur> I think it's not even legal in Belgium to force a customer to buy a certain OS with a certain pc.... however they'll make it very hard for you to do si... :)
[03:02] <mineur> *so
[03:03] <codyt> pretty specific law.
[03:03] <arbus> codyt: win-free. they load it with linpus (an old linux version).
[03:03] <mineur> no it's in general
[03:03] <codyt> nice.
[03:03] <mineur> it's the law against couple-selling (translated literally lol)
[03:03] <tarden> well how can i change my lang on my keybord?
[03:03] <mineur> as it's illegal to give free cellphones with new mobile contracts
[03:04] <codyt> interesting.
[03:04] <arbus> tarden: use kxkbd
[03:04] <mineur> sometimes.... it forces me to spend more money on a cool phone hehe
[03:04] <tarden> whats that_
[03:05] <arbus> it is a daemon that sits on the systray to change the keyboard layout to whatever you want.
[03:05] <tarden> where can i get it_
[03:06] <dwidmann> I wish such laws existed here mineur
[03:06] <mineur> I wonder how long they'll be able to exist here.... I fear the european commission
[03:07] <tarden> where can i get it?
[03:07] <mineur> you're in the US?
[03:07] <dwidmann> Indeed.
[03:07] <arbus> ALT+F2, "keyboard_layout"
[03:07] <mineur> tarden: sudo apt-get install package-name
[03:07] <mineur> or is it already installed? :d
[03:07] <codyt> should be installed. it's installed on mine.
[03:08] <mineur> system settings, regional stuff there keyboard layout
[03:08] <arbus> btw, there are lots of nice stuff that can be launched from ALT+F2. My fav show off is "memory".
[03:09] <mineur> alt f2 doesn't do a thing :)
[03:09] <mineur> not here anyway :)
[03:09] <mineur> which app does it load?
[03:09] <codyt> meh, it use to on mine.
[03:09] <filthpig> hi
[03:09] <arbus> ALT+F2 is the shortcut key for "Run Command...."
[03:09] <codyt> I changed my shortcuts, though.
[03:10] <dwidmann> I guess I do have worse things to worry about though ... like Digital restrictions management, treacherous computing, and the united state's $9 trillion national debt....
[03:10] <arbus> Try Win+Enter.
[03:10] <filthpig> does anyone in here have a problem using cedega with kubuntu 6.10?
[03:10] <luca_b> codyt: wow, I never knew those commands (though I use ALT-F2 for everything)
[03:10] <mineur> hehe dwidmann, good luck :d
[03:10] <paolo> hi. which is the command to send through rs232 (/dev/ttyS0) a string "mystring" thnks
[03:10] <codyt> I just keep a konsole handy.
[03:11] <codyt> it's already there when I log in.
[03:11] <tarden> mineur E: Couldn't find package package-kxkdb
[03:12] <mineur> tarden: it's already installed.... go to system settings in the kde menu
[03:12] <arbus> paolo: echo mystring >/dev/ttyS0
[03:12] <mineur> there reginal settings
[03:12] <mineur> and keyboard layout
[03:12] <paolo> thnks arbus
[03:12] <n8k99> I have yakuake installed so a terminal is always an f12 away
[03:12] <mineur> there's even a tab to configure the keyboard layout manager
[03:13] <tarden> mineur don't have kde menu
[03:13] <codyt> I just don't close my terminal.
[03:13] <mineur> erm?
[03:13] <mineur> you use kde?
[03:13] <codyt> and it starts up automatically.
[03:13] <codyt> the "K" in the bottom left corner, if you haven't changed certain settings on Kubuntu
[03:13] <arbus> tarden: are you on KDE desktop? If so, select "Run Command..." and type "keyboard_layout" to change the same.
[03:14] <tarden> ok ty
[03:14] <mineur> or fire up systemsettings with the run command
[03:14] <roel_> hello everyone
[03:14] <arbus> tarden: if you are using default KDE, ALT+F1 brings up the menu and ALT+F2 brings up the Run Command prompt.
[03:14] <mineur> hello roel :)
[03:14] <tarden> it worked ty arbus
[03:14] <roel_> What apt-source should i put in my source list to apt-get msttcorefonts???
[03:14] <mineur> which part of our beautiful country are you from? :)
[03:15] <codyt> I always have so little memory free..
[03:15] <codyt> 6MB out of 512
[03:15] <mineur> codyt: if you're used to windows... that's normal
[03:15] <codyt> haha, yeah.
[03:15] <codyt> Although, I have no problems with speed or anything like that.
[03:15] <codyt> even with 6MB free, I can launch games and run them smoothly.
[03:16] <mineur> normal, linux manages memory in a totally different manner
[03:16] <codyt> Yeah.
[03:16] <arbus> n8k99: yakuake is nice. But I still like to show off my quick Run Commands. It not only works for URLs, but also for some great commands. The full list of commands are in /usr/share/applications/kde.
[03:17] <mineur> !yakuake
[03:17] <ubotu> yakuake: Yet Another Kuake, KDE terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 67 kB, installed size 488 kB
[03:17] <roel_> doesn't anybody uses the msttcorefonts in this chatroom?
[03:17] <arbus> codyt: in linux, there is nothing like "free memory". any memory left over after apps is game for file buffers. Try the "memory" command in ALT+F2 and check for "application data"
[03:17] <mineur> I have them installed yeah, just in case... don't use them lol
[03:18] <codyt> Yeah, that's what I used to see the "6MB free"
[03:18] <roel_> yes but just in case i want to install them where can i get the correct ones for kubuntu edgy
[03:18] <roel_> because an aptitude search can't find them
[03:18] <mineur> !restricted
[03:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:18] <arbus> roel:msttcorefonts is in archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse
[03:19] <roel_> k thnx
[03:19] <mineur> hmm I'm looking for the link myself
[03:19] <codyt> Disk Cache 23%, disk buffers 22%, Application data 52%, 10.16MB free.
[03:19] <codyt> 90% free swap.
[03:19] <codyt> 93*
[03:20] <arbus> btw, msttcorefonts doesnt change much. if you do frequent installs, it is faster to tgz /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/
[03:21] <mineur> roel_: you need universe and multiverse in your repositories tho
[03:21] <arbus> codyt: you seem to be doing fine. btw, 52% of 512MB is a large footprint for apps. what apps are you running that takes so much space?
[03:22] <smoze> hello
[03:22] <roel_> mineur are that the universe en multiverse of edgy or dapper?
[03:22] <mineur> of the distribution you  use
[03:22] <roel_> because edgy i already have
[03:23] <roel_> edgy
[03:23] <roel_> but he can 't find the msttcorefonts
[03:23] <arbus> roel: what does "apt-cache policy msttcorefonts" show?
[03:23] <codyt> just konsole (3 tabbed terminals), Noatun, x-chat, firefox, klipper, kmix
[03:23] <codyt> then however many background processes.
[03:23] <roel_> msttcorefonts
[03:23] <roel_> Installed (none)
[03:23] <codyt> I'll check ksysguard.
[03:24] <roel_> Candidate: (none)
[03:24] <roel_> Version: table:
[03:24] <codyt> whoa.. I really need trim some stuff down..
[03:24] <arbus> roel: what about "grep archive.ubuntu.com /etc/apt/sources.list"
[03:24] <luca_b> codyt: usually though, the linux kernel rarely reports memory as "free"
[03:25] <codyt> xorg, firefox-bin, clamd, noatun, kdesktop, artsd, xchat, are the ones usng the most.
[03:25] <roel_> deb http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
[03:25] <roel_> deb-src http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
[03:25] <roel_> deb http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted
[03:25] <roel_> deb-src http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted
[03:25] <roel_> deb http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[03:25] <roel_> deb-src http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[03:25] <roel_> deb http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[03:25] <roel_> deb-src http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[03:26] <roel_> this
[03:26] <codyt> I have noticed that it'll say I have more free memory after running and closing a game.
[03:26] <tarden> tja
[03:27] <roel_> should i use some other? or maybe not the be ones
[03:27] <roel_> ?
[03:27] <arbus> roel: you need to append "multiverse" to the line ending "edgy universe"
[03:27] <luca_b> roel_: you need one more line
[03:27] <arbus> and then run "apt-get update"
[03:27] <roel_> k will try is arbus
[03:28] <smoze> has anyone experienced jamming of install, it just won't even boot
[03:29] <codyt> yep
[03:29] <roel_> thnx arbus i found them now
[03:29] <codyt> 77.72MB free, now.
[03:29] <smoze> how can i solve that?
[03:29] <arbus> codyt: i am running a whole bunch of apps - kde, kontact, kmail, akregator, konqueror, gaim. but my app data is only 64% of 256MB.
[03:29] <codyt> swap didn't change a bit.
[03:30] <codyt> go figure.
[03:30] <it> hey guys i got a problem with SuperKaramba
[03:30] <it> anyone able to help?
[03:30] <codyt> I'm not having any performance issues.
[03:31] <codyt> although, I'm sure it doesn't help that I have a lot of tranlucensy/transparency activated.
[03:32] <codyt> I'm guessing my system is poorly configured, or something.
[03:33] <it> anyone helping today?
[03:33] <roel_> exit
[03:34] <dwidmann> what do you need it?
[03:34] <Pekke> Hello! Can anybody help me with suspending my kubuntu laptop? I downloaded the Kpowersave with adept, but I don't know how to use it...
[03:34] <codyt> I didn't do any post-install configuration, really.
[03:34] <it> i need a little help with superkaramba
[03:35] <arbus> codyt: it is probably some programming hogging. if it is a small memory leak, then you will see your app data or swap usage increasing. i wouldnt bother about it as long as the system works fine.
[03:35] <dwidmann> it: details?
[03:35] <codyt> swap stays at a minimal usage.
[03:35] <bartist> hey guys i ve downloaded a binary to set up google earth
[03:35] <it> it is not showing the themes i downloaded....butshows they are downloaded....but will not let me re download them
[03:35] <bartist> how can i install it?
[03:36] <codyt> binary meaning an installer?
[03:36] <dwidmann> it: odd ... I usually just download them with konqueror ... then in superkaramba I click on open and open the file I downloaded and it opens them. Works-for-me(TM) anyway.
[03:37] <it> i use automatix2 to install stuff like that.....I know it is not recommended here but it works well for me
[03:37] <codyt> one sec..
[03:37] <dwidmann> an example of a binary: jpeg image
[03:37] <codyt> dwidmann, that's why I asked.
[03:37] <dwidmann> I know
[03:38] <bartist> yes but it is a bin
[03:38] <bartist> when i click it, it opens kate
[03:38] <codyt> it, I've experienced this problem myself.
[03:38] <dwidmann> .bin & .run = self extracting installers .. run them in konsole with the command "sh <filename>"
[03:39] <codyt> There's a list (I forget where exactly) that lists certain packages as installed, even if the install failed.
[03:39] <codyt> I had to manually edit the list and remove them.
[03:39] <codyt> this was with Kopete, but it's the same system.
[03:39] <it> I always change the file permissions using chmod 777 the file name
[03:39] <it> then i run ./filename
[03:39] <codyt> mm
[03:39] <dwidmann> it: don't forget to chmod +x too ....
[03:40] <bartist> also, to add universe, i uncomment the two lines
[03:40] <codyt> 777 would include +x
[03:40] <it> what does the +x do?
[03:40] <codyt> just chmod +x instead of 777
[03:40] <bartist> but i could not find the multiverse ones
[03:40] <codyt> x = executable.
[03:40] <it> oh ok
[03:40] <it> well 777 is as much permision as you can get right?
[03:40] <codyt> 777 allows read, write, and execute for everyone.
[03:41] <codyt> 777 make the file free for anyone to read, delete, edit, or execute.
[03:41] <it> well if i am the only one using then it is ok ?
[03:41] <bartist> !repositories
[03:41] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:42] <dwidmann> codyt ... true enough ... I've been up about 24 hours, I must be due for more sugar/caffeine
[03:42] <codyt> it, unless it's possible for others to access your computer
[03:42] <it> ok...but i will start using +x anyway
[03:43] <codyt> I tend to lock things up just in case.
[03:43] <Tonren> Anyone know of a good dark theme?
[03:43] <codyt> root folder is 000
[03:43] <codyt> Tonren, www.kde-look.org
[03:43] <mineur> don't just give any file 777 :) you never know if you'll want to give access to someone else at a later point...
[03:44] <Tonren> codyt: I've been looking there for hours.  I can't seem to find one.
[03:44] <dwidmann> tonren ... I can never get dark themes to work well enough in kde, sadly :( ... can't seem to find a way to change widget border colors (like the borders of pushbuttons, frames, etc)
[03:44] <Tonren> codyt: kde-look and gnome-look have the most horrible interface of any site I've ever seen in history.  Half of the time I can't even figure out how to install what I'm downloading.
[03:44] <bartist> guys should i wait for hd dvd, blue ray before buying a laptop?
[03:44] <Tonren> dwidmann: That sucks.  I've been using a perfect dark theme in Gnome for a year.  I don't think I cna get used to a light one again.
[03:45] <codyt> When my computer was *very* dark, I just changed my color settings
[03:45] <codyt> high contrast, white text.
[03:45] <Tonren> Also, what the heck is "Katapult?"
[03:45] <dwidmann> Well, a dark one can be pulled off, you just can't use black for the window color or the widget borders won't have any contrast with it at all
[03:45] <codyt> Tonren, program launcher.
[03:45] <Tonren> codyt: Oh, neat.
[03:45] <dwidmann> katapult is the best thing ever to happen to kde, ever.
[03:45] <Tonren> codyt: How do I open it up again?
[03:46] <codyt> mine's in K->Utilities
[03:46] <Jucato> !katapult | Tonren
[03:46] <ubotu> Tonren: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[03:46] <dwidmann> katapult is an application launcher, calculator, file opener, and a variety of other things ... you start typing, and it autocompletes whether it be a program, music file, piece of math, etc
[03:46] <codyt> I never use it myself.
[03:47] <codyt> haha
[03:47] <bartist> google earth is not in the repos anymore?
[03:47] <codyt> I do most things in konsole.
[03:47] <dwidmann> I even use katapult to open konsole for me :)
[03:47] <ubuntu> hello, is there a nice person who can help me installing the grub bootloader?
[03:47] <codyt> konsole doesn't close for me.
[03:48] <dwidmann> fuzzo, I suppose so, how did it get uninstalled though?
[03:48] <codyt> It's there, borderless, exactly where I want it, every time I log into KDE
[03:48] <Tonren> If I switch users, do all of my programs close?
[03:48] <codyt> Tonren, not if you don't log out.
[03:48] <fuzzo> i got a new harddrive and im now trying to copy everything from harddisk a to harddisk b
[03:49] <codyt> and, you can quickly switch back with atl-ctrl-F7, usually.
[03:49] <fuzzo> i used gparted to copy the partitions
[03:49] <codyt> then back to the other with alt-ctrl-F8
[03:49] <Tonren> Ok, uhm... how do I add a new user?
[03:49] <fuzzo> but the bootloader wasnt copied
[03:49] <codyt> Command line or GUI?
[03:50] <Tonren> codyt: I know how to do it via command line, but I figure I ought to get used to KDE's GUI
[03:50] <Tonren> I think I found it though
[03:50] <dwidmann> fuzzo: grub-install /dev/hdb would probably do it for you ... try it
[03:50] <dwidmann> **sudo grub-install /dev/hdb
[03:50] <dwidmann> assuming grub-install is the new primary drive
[03:50] <Tonren> codyt: Wait... where's the "Administrator Mode" button in the KDE Control Module thingie?
[03:50] <dwidmann> **erm assuming /dev/hdb
[03:50] <fuzzo> i tried installing grub following this guide http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/GRUB?highlight=%28bootloader%29
[03:51] <dwidmann> tonren, usually along the bottom
[03:51] <codyt> I just use Settings->System Administration->Use Account Editor
[03:51] <codyt> I think I had to add "settings" to my menu, though.
[03:52] <fuzzo> if i run the command grup-install /dev/sda it says /dev/sda does not have anz corresponding BIOS drive
[03:52] <Tonren> dwidmann: Weird.  It wasn't fully extended to the bottom.
[03:52] <fuzzo> and i have no idea what that means
[03:52] <fuzzo> what shall i do now?
[03:53] <dwidmann> fuzzo, I'm not sure what it means ... is /dev/sda the new device?
[03:53] <fuzzo> yes
[03:54] <fuzzo> i copied all partitions from the old the hd to new hd. so everything is ready expect the bootloader
[03:54] <cecko> Hi guys! dont you know what file permissions are needed for config files (under /home/user/) of kde apps? I moved whole my hme folder with thunar and then with konqueror beck, one of them must have changed the permissions...
[03:54] <fuzzo> except
[03:55] <dwidmann> cecko ... I have the folders in my home dir set to 700 ...
[03:55] <fuzzo> the root partition is at sda3, sda1 is windows 2000 and sd2 is the swap partition
[03:55] <bartist> how can i install the google earth binary file?
[03:56] <drarem> how do you make someone's name highlight in red so you can get their attention in this chat window
[03:56] <dwidmann> fuzzo, check in your bios ... maybe there's something you have to change regarding whether it looks to boot from the sata or pata drive.
[03:56] <cecko> dwidmann: all the files and folders?
[03:56] <sarah_> How do I make something run when I login?
[03:56] <dwidmann> drarem, type their name
[03:56] <drarem> ok i just wont see it
[03:56] <cecko> bartist: check out Medibuntu repo
[03:56] <codyt> hrm.
[03:56] <dwidmann> sarah_ put a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:56] <drarem> thnx
[03:56] <dwidmann> cecko, yes
[03:57] <sarah_> dwidmann: Isn't there a way to do it in the system menu?
[03:57] <MidMark> hi today I've installed a dual core and after 2 hours of running I got a freeze, never happened before with single core
[03:57] <bartist> cecko i want to install google earth but i dont find it in the repos, so I downloaded it from google.Com
[03:57] <MidMark> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2036/
[03:57] <dwidmann> Not as far as I know sarah_
[03:57] <MidMark> is there a bug report?
[03:57] <sarah_> dwidmann: lame...
[03:57] <dwidmann> Well, sarah_, you could just open up only the things you would want to have open in a new session, then go to k-> save session
[03:58] <sarah_> dwidmann: I don't see that option in my K Menu
[03:58] <dwidmann> odd, it should be there ...
[03:58] <fuzzo> ok, thx
[03:58] <codyt> neither do I.
[03:58] <cecko> dwidmann, thx, don't you know what is the permission command? (kdesu) Konqueror changes always only parts of the folder
[03:59] <cecko> bartist, you have to change its permissions so it will be executable. then just run it from command line or Alt+F2 (include path to it)
[03:59] <codyt> cecko, the command to change permissions?
[03:59] <kai_> whats up people
[04:00] <kai_> whats the address for a cut copy and paste site?
[04:00] <dwidmann> cecko: chmod -R 700 ~
[04:00] <bartist> ok thanx!
[04:00] <dwidmann> !paste
[04:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:00] <cecko> dwidmann, thx I'll try that,hopefully Firefox will run again
[04:01] <codyt> Fx<3
[04:01] <codyt> 0 ops, just noticed that..  I like that.
[04:02] <codyt> oh wow
[04:02] <dwidmann> the ops are here codyt, they're just incognito
[04:02] <codyt> Just noticed that acer's notebook index *still* hasn't loaded.
[04:02] <codyt> Ah.
[04:03] <Tm_T> Ops?
[04:03] <codyt> in my previous experiences,  ops usually just idled and ingored everything.
[04:03] <codyt> relying on mIRC scripts to do their work.
[04:03] <Tm_T> mIRC?
[04:03] <codyt> Windows IRC chat program
[04:03] <codyt> the most popular, as far as I know.
[04:04] <Tm_T> codyt: Ah, now I remember, that terrible thing I was glad to forget.
[04:04] <codyt> hahaha
[04:04] <Tm_T> Tried it once, what a trauma.
[04:04] <dwidmann> here, you can use ubotu to wake them up ... he knows all of their names ... ! ops, use only in emergencies
[04:04] <kai_> Thank u ubotu
[04:04] <codyt> ohh
[04:04] <manchicken__> codyt: People don't use mIRC here very often ^_^
[04:04] <codyt> I'm sure.
[04:05] <manchicken__> (w00t for konversation)
[04:05] <codyt> wouldn't make a lot of sense, really.
[04:05] <Tm_T> Irssi <3
[04:05] <codyt> I do still like mIRC's scripting capabilities.
[04:05] <Tonren> Jucato: "Unique" is a common euphemism for "eccentric."  ;)
[04:05] <codyt> games made with picwin
[04:05] <manchicken__> codyt: If you want scripting, run xchat with Perl or Python.
[04:05] <codyt> am.
[04:05] <Jucato> Tonren: I use "unique" as a euphemism for "weird" or "crazy"
[04:06] <Tonren> Jucato: Synonyms, my friend.
[04:06] <codyt> haven't gone as far as to  learn perl, python, or tcl
[04:06] <Tm_T> Btw hi kids.
[04:06] <stdin> konversation can script, irssi can script, xchat can script ....
[04:06] <manchicken> Perl and Python have better scripting support than mIRC could dream of.
[04:06] <Jucato> Konvi can do some scripts too... just not event-driven scripts
[04:06] <Tonren> How do I change the silly End Session picture?
[04:06] <codyt> Yeah.
[04:06] <arbus> fuzzo: after you copy over all the files, you need to do chroot to the new root volume and then run grub-install. Otherwise you will have to explicitly specify the grub menu.list file. Check the man page for grub-install for details.
[04:06] <dwidmann> /usr/share/doc/diveintopython/html/toc/index.html @ codyt
[04:06] <Tonren> Also, what's the story with all these different terminal sessions?
[04:07] <codyt> Though, if you were also a coder, you could fully extend it with DLLs.
[04:07] <manchicken> Perl and Python are both insanely simple scripting languages to learn.
[04:07] <codyt> Yeah, I've just never put an effort towards it
[04:07] <Jucato> konvi also does bash scripts... let's see mirc do that!
[04:07] <codyt> I've seen the syntax, didn't look too complex.
[04:07] <manchicken> codyt: If you wanted to pay for the MS compiler or fight with one that's free.
[04:07] <codyt> manchicken, GCC is available on windows.
[04:08] <Jucato> Tonren: http://www.kde-artists.org/logout
[04:08] <dwidmann> I wouldn't say perl is insanely simple, but python definitely is
[04:08] <manchicken> codyt: Try compiling a DLL on windows in GCC.
[04:08] <Tm_T> Jucato: My friends irssi did tell us if he had comments in one website or when he last time opened his fridge etc etc.
[04:08] <manchicken> dwidmann: I would say you're wrong.
[04:08] <codyt> Yeah, been there.
[04:08] <wilman> i want to install tuxguitar but it needs java 1.5, i have installed the package sun-java5-jre, when i want to install tguitar it says i need java runtime
[04:08] <dwidmann> I'd only say it's simple ... not insanely so :)
[04:08] <codyt> mIRC scripts are very straight forward.  It's just based on events and aliases.
[04:09] <Tonren> Wow. KDE is lightyears ahead of Gnome in the "visual layout" category
[04:09] <manchicken> dwidmann: Both of them are incredibly simple to learn.
[04:09] <dwidmann> I know
[04:09] <Pupeno> What do I have to install to get Amarok to use gstreamer ?
[04:09] <manchicken> Both have some quirks.
[04:09] <dwidmann> ruby is too really
[04:10] <manchicken> Ruby's neat.
[04:10] <Tm_T> Pupeno: You can't.
[04:10] <Tonren> dwidmann: Ruby is delightful.  I use it for everything now.
[04:10] <codyt> Once you've learned the first on TEXT event, and how to return information with an  alias, you know mIRC scripting.
[04:10] <codyt> The rest is just referencing commands.
[04:10] <TheGateKeeper> Pupeno, go into configuaration & change the engine
[04:10] <manchicken> codyt: Check out Perl's xchat interface.  It's just as simple.
[04:10] <Tm_T> TheGateKeeper: Well, IIRC there's no gstreamer engine been there since last year.
[04:10] <Tonren> codyt: I'm sure that mIRC provides simplicity in exchange for versatility.  With Perl, Python and Ruby, you literally have hooks into everything - system sockets, the internet, other processes on your computer, the command line.
[04:11] <Pupeno> TheGateKeeper: it's not listed in engines.
[04:11] <manchicken> Though nobody should run IRC in windows.  Security risk ^_^
[04:11] <codyt> Sounds like fun.
[04:11] <codyt> haha
[04:11] <paolo> Hi. how can I see the parameters of /dev/ttyS0 ? (speed, parity etc.)
[04:11] <dwidmann> hahaha manchicken ... I got a few viruses and trojans that way back in the day
[04:12] <codyt> Windows + internet + IE = lack of security.
[04:12] <TheGateKeeper> Tm_T, think I had it working once upon a time, but at the moment I use xine
[04:12] <manchicken> dwidmann: The solution to that problem is just to install kubuntu ^_^
[04:12] <Pekke> is there any program that i can use my webcam to take snapshots/ video chat like in msn messenger?
[04:12] <manchicken> kubuntu... my anti-Windows.
[04:12] <Tm_T> TheGateKeeper: Yup, gst engine was dropped almost a year ago by lack of maintainer.
[04:12] <codyt> IE could have been left out of that equation, but it is a giant hole for just about everything to get in.
[04:12] <TheGateKeeper> Pupeno, well the gstreamer stuff needs to be installed first before it will show up
[04:13] <Tm_T> Pupeno: Can't you use Xine?
[04:13] <codyt> before I discovered Fx, I'd catch IE allowing programs to install things on my computer without my permission.
[04:13] <TheGateKeeper> Pupeno, what's wrong with the xine engine?
[04:13] <DeadFishMan> Pekke: use aMSN
[04:14] <dwidmann> I hear the xine engine is poorly documented, that's the only thing I've really heard about it on that front though
[04:14] <Tm_T> Pekke: Kopete can do msn video.
[04:14] <DeadFishMan> Pekke: Now, if you just want to take snapshots, use either camstream or camorama
[04:14] <Pupeno> TheGateKeeper: I know, but I can't find it. There's no amarok-gstreamer package anymore.
[04:14] <dwidmann> Looking at the code of a multimedia engine would probably make my head spin though, so I just won't.
[04:14] <Tm_T> Pupeno: 17:12 < Tm_T> TheGateKeeper: Yup, gst engine was dropped almost a year ago by lack of maintainer.
[04:14] <manchicken> Pupeno: I'm not sure there ever was an amarok-gstreamer.  Amarok uses libxine.
[04:14] <TheGateKeeper> Pupeno, from what Tm_T says you are out of luck
[04:15] <Tm_T> Pupeno: There's none unless you do it yourself.
[04:15] <Pupeno> Tm_T: I need to play weird formats, like alaw, ulaw and gsm (stuff normally used it telephony) and gstreamer seems te be able to do it.
[04:15] <codyt> I'm sure x-chat isn't as exploitable as mIRC..  "mIRC viruses" could be spread by tricking someone into typing a /write $decode() with the proper data.
[04:15] <Tm_T> Pupeno: Well, Xine or Helix.
[04:15] <Pupeno> Tm_T: weird, I've asked in #amarok and they said gst was suported.
[04:15] <tony__> how do you install an rpm file
[04:15] <manchicken> codyt: Has less to do with the client, more to do with the OS behind it.
[04:15] <Tm_T> Pupeno: When?
[04:15] <manchicken> codyt: That's why you never IRC as root.
[04:15] <Pupeno> Tm_T: yesterday.
[04:16] <Tm_T> Pupeno: Hmm, let me check...
[04:16] <codyt> manchicken, this was based on the client itself.
[04:16] <dope> is there some sort of console command to get temperature readings?
[04:16] <codyt> Though, the script's entire purpose was to spread itself
[04:16] <Tm_T> Pupeno: Come there, we'll find out what's the truth.
[04:16] <codyt> nothing more.
[04:16] <manchicken> Because on windows, everybody has free reign.
[04:16] <DeadFishMan> tony__: Do you want to install an rpm file on Kubuntu?
[04:16] <n8k99> I remember amarok in kubuntu used to have the gstreamer engin as an option
[04:16] <codyt> That is true.
[04:16] <codyt> ick
[04:16] <Tm_T> n8k99: There was.
[04:16] <tony__> ubuntu 6.06
[04:16] <Jucato> n8k99: there *was*
[04:16] <Pupeno> Tm_T: I am there.
[04:16] <TheGateKeeper> Tm_T, I thought there was stuff in the dapper repos, don't know about edgy
[04:16] <Tm_T> Pupeno: Oh, yes you are. ;)
[04:17] <codyt> the $decode contained an encoded script, that when decoded would also load itself into mIRC, then just send more prvmsgs giving the instructions to  install it.
[04:17] <DeadFishMan> tony__: You can use alien to convert that package to a .deb and then install it but most likely you will hit on a few dependencies missing.
[04:17] <tony__> okay thanks
[04:17] <DeadFishMan> tony__: Better look for a Debian version of the same package on the repositories
[04:17] <tony__> is there a good start up guide for ubuntu
[04:17] <tony__> ok
[04:17] <DeadFishMan> tony__: http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:18] <tony__> i'll look now
[04:18] <tony__> thanks
[04:18] <DeadFishMan> tony__: yw
[04:18] <TheGateKeeper> tony__, http://za1012001.googlepages.com/%28k%29ubuntunotes
[04:18] <Alarm> hello. i have a winfast tv card on my system. till now kubuntu was recognising it without a problem. after installing nvidia drivers all i get with lspci is . 02:0c.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05). Also when trying to run kdetv it tells me kdetv: WARNING: [VBIDecoder::restart()]  no permission to access device. I noticed also that on /dev there is no video0 as it was before. what could i
[04:18] <Alarm> do ?
[04:19] <codyt> mIRC scripting has just enough power to be dangerouse.  -> "//echo $findfile(C:\, *,*, 0, /remove $1-)"  <- searchs through the file system, deleting any file that isn't opened.
[04:19] <hyper_ch> !uuid
[04:19] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[04:19] <DeadFishMan> Alarm: You most likely will have to find out if the module for the TV card is still loaded. Use lsmod for that
[04:20] <DeadFishMan> If it is not, then you can load it manually using modprobe and if it works, update /etc/modules to load it during boot
[04:20] <codyt> while, you'd probably still be able to boot up again after the "attack," you'd lose a lot of important files.
[04:20] <Alarm> DeadFishMan,  what would be like named the module ?
[04:20] <Alarm> cause there is a huge list
[04:21] <Alarm> video                  17540  0 , i dont know if its that
[04:21] <Alarm> i see also: cx88xx                 63908
[04:21] <Alarm> also v4l2
[04:21] <Alarm> and other that write cx88
[04:21] <Alarm> videodev               10752  1 cx88
[04:21] <DeadFishMan> Alarm: No idea. I have a BT878-based TV card (old Pinnacle DC10) and its module is called bttv
[04:22] <wilman> !tuxguitar
[04:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tuxguitar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:22] <wilman> i want to install tuxguitar but it says i have to install sun java runtime 1.5, i have that
[04:23] <DeadFishMan> Alarm: v4l2 is just the name for the newer Video 4 Linux 2 interface to hook up TV card and certain webcams
[04:23] <codyt> tuxguitar..
[04:23] <codyt> I couldn't get it to work.
[04:23] <codyt> I forget why.
[04:23] <Alarm> thank you for ur help, but somehow i still dont know what should be my next step or what to search on the web
[04:24] <codyt> nvm, that was kguitar.
[04:25] <codyt> hi bartist
[04:25] <fuzzo> dwidmann: i ran the grub installation with the recheck switch
[04:26] <DeadFishMan> Alarm: I found this: http://www.threebit.net/mail-archive/video4linux/msg00939.html
[04:26] <fuzzo> dwidmann: it now says /dev/hda3: Not found or not a block device.
[04:26] <Alarm> lets see
[04:26] <DeadFishMan> Alarm: It is not Ubuntu/Kubuntu specific, but it is generic enough so that you can follow and should have the modules needed loaded
[04:26] <fuzzo> dwidmann: how do i tell grub-install that the new harddisk is sda and not hda?
[04:27] <fuzzo> dwidmann: i tried to edit /etc/fstab but this didn't change anything
[04:27] <Alarm> well in my /dev i dont see either anymore video0 as i did before
[04:27] <frank_> hi all
[04:27] <DeadFishMan> Alarm: Do not worry about that. Once you load the module, udev will take care of creating the appropriate /dev entries for you automagically
[04:28] <Alarm> do i need to restart ?
[04:28] <DeadFishMan> Alarm: No
[04:28] <DeadFishMan> Alarm: Thiis not Windows :)
[04:28] <codyt> amen!
[04:28] <Alarm> options cx88xx card=27 tuner=59 . the numbers change for me ? also "option" is also included ?
[04:29] <[StingRay] > stdin, I just received the last (I hope so) piece of the puzzle. It sounds like this: "wine explorer.exe /desktop=NAME,WIDTHxHEIGHT application.exe"
[04:29] <mineur> Uptime: 4 days, 23 hours and 59 minutes
[04:29] <DeadFishMan> Alarm: No need to do that... Not for now. These are options that you can include on /etc/modules later, and you will need to check out the options that your tv card supports
[04:29] <Alarm> btw. nor /etc/modules.conf or /etc/modprobe.conf exist
[04:30] <DeadFishMan> Alarm: K/Ubuntu calls it just /etc/modules
[04:30] <DeadFishMan> Alarm:  not worry about the other one
[04:31] <Alarm> DeadFishMan,  i am reading the webpage u gave me, but i dont see something that could help or something that tells me what to do dude
[04:31] <DeadFishMan> Alarm: Just try modprobe cx88xx and then run lsmod to see if a bunch of additional modules were loaded
[04:32] <Alarm> DeadFishMan,  well lsmod showed me before also some cx88xx that i pasted here before
[04:32] <Alarm> ir_common              28548  1 cx88xx, i2c_algo_bit           10376  1 cx88xx, video_buf              27652  1 cx88xx, tveeprom               16144  1 cx88xx
[04:32] <fuzzo> at all: i got a new harddrive. the old one was IDE, the new one is SATA. i copied all partitions from the old hd to the new hd with gparted. in /etc/fstab i changed everything from hda to sda. now when i run "grub-install /dev/sda" to install the bootloader it says "/dev/hda3: Not found or not a block device." ... seems that grub still gets a from device information from anywhere...what did i forgot?
[04:32] <DeadFishMan> Alarm: I see... So you already have the module loaded, then.
[04:32] <Alarm> videodev               10752  1 cx88x
[04:33] <dwidmann> fuzzo: I'm not sure :\ perhaps ask in the ubuntuforums?
[04:33] <Alarm> and... i2c_core               23424  5 i2c_ec,cx88xx,i2c_algo_bit,tveeprom,nvidia
[04:33] <Alarm> i guess so, its loaeded
[04:34] <DeadFishMan> Alarm: And after running modprobe manually, did you check if the devices nodes were created in /dev? /dev/video or /dev/video0?
[04:34] <Alarm> yes, nothing created
[04:34] <Alarm> as i said, that happened after installing nvidia drivers
[04:34] <fuzzo> dwidmann: okay, thx
[04:34] <DeadFishMan> Alarm: Then I have no idea what it could be.
[04:35] <Alarm> :)
[04:35] <Alarm> okie
[04:35] <fuzzo> maybe anyone else had this problem before?
[04:35] <DeadFishMan> Alarm: Since you stated that this happened after installing the nvidia drivers, you could try to revert temporarily to the OSS nv driver and see what happens
[04:35] <bartist> hello guys
[04:35] <kkosmo> list
[04:35] <Alarm> okie, i will see what i can do
[04:36] <trappist> I've installed a version of a package I built myself from a previous distro, because of bugs in the newer version.  apt-get always wants to upgrade to the current version.  anybody know how I can exempt this package from updates?
[04:36] <bartist> when you type lsmod, how many snd_* do you have?
[04:36] <DeadFishMan> bartist: Lots :)
[04:36] <blue|palm> !hidden
[04:36] <ubotu> Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[04:36] <bartist> i only have 3
[04:36] <kkosmo> somone know what command in bash to show messege on screen
[04:36] <kkosmo> ?
[04:36] <DeadFishMan> bartist: ALSA loads lots of modules in my case. Do not know why :)
[04:36] <kkosmo> but in popup
[04:36] <kkosmo> like
[04:37] <soulrider> trappist: tru "sudo aptitude hold <package>"
[04:37] <kkosmo> exec startkde
[04:37] <kkosmo> >
[04:37] <kkosmo> ?
[04:37] <trappist> soulrider: awesome, thanks
[04:37] <soulrider> kkosmo: echo? =/
[04:37] <DeadFishMan> kkosmo: You want a sort of message box on the GUI?
[04:37] <kkosmo> no
[04:37] <soulrider> no prob trappist
[04:37] <trappist> kkosmo: try osd_cat
[04:37] <kkosmo> yes
[04:37] <bartist> snd_intel8x0 snd-ac97_codec and snd_ac97_bus
[04:37] <bartist> and my sound is not working
[04:37] <DeadFishMan> kkosmo: You can use kdialog, for starters
[04:39] <kkosmo> dead
[04:39] <kkosmo> how
[04:39] <kkosmo> ?
[04:39] <kkosmo> oo ok
[04:39] <kkosmo> thanks
[04:39] <trappist> or xmessage
[04:39] <DeadFishMan> kkosmo: Open Konsole and type this: kdialog --msgbox "Text :P"
[04:40] <DeadFishMan> trappist: Xmessage is soooo 80s XD
[04:40] <trappist> DeadFishMan: haha
[04:41] <arbus> paolo: see stty(1) command
[04:42] <kkosmo> somone can help me how i can change only the konsole language to english not all the system language only kconsole?
[04:44] <DeadFishMan> kkosmo: Try to export LANG and LANGUAGE environment variables to either C or en_US on your profile scripts
[04:45] <kkosmo> but i want only the kconsole
[04:45] <kkosmo> i can do that if yes how
[04:45] <kkosmo> ?
[04:45] <DeadFishMan> kkosmo: You can change both ~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile and only the shell (console) will use those languages
[04:46] <DeadFishMan> kkosmo: KDE and other window managers should not be affected by that (unless they read those env vars, of course)
[04:46] <arbus> Alarm: your video driver is cx88xx. search for this and kubuntu. there seems to be some problem with winfast/cx chipsets and nvidia driver. another person was reporting issues. so you could google for cx88 winfast and nvidia
[04:46] <K-Ryan> Hey guys
[04:47] <DeadFishMan> Gotta get something to eat. See you later, guys!
[04:47] <K-Ryan> Bye DeadFishMan
[04:48] <K-Ryan> When I try to enable my DVD player it says "Return code from mount was 32. "mount failure"
[04:48] <K-Ryan> Any idea where I should start with that?
[04:49] <kkosmo> DeadFishMan:
[04:49] <kkosmo> in two of this files now have somthing about the language
[04:49] <arbus> fuzzo: grub-install picks its defaults from /boot/grub/grub.conf or /boot/grub/menu.lst. your existing /boot/grub/menu.lst file will refer to /dev/hda and not /dev/sda. read the grub-install man page on how to override these settings. Try "#grub-install" in konqueror
[04:49] <K-Ryan> DeadFishMan went to get something to eat.
[04:51] <just-this-time> any mame experience here ? like in http://www.mame.net ~ http://x.mame.net ?
[04:52] <kkosmo> !language
[04:52] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:52] <K-Ryan> Hey I wonder....
[04:52] <K-Ryan> !42
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 42 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <K-Ryan> oops
[04:52] <K-Ryan> !32
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <K-Ryan> Oh well, worth a shot =(
[04:52] <just-this-time> any mame experience here ? like in http://www.mame.net ~ http://x.mame.net ? please read
[04:54] <Murchadh> K-Ryan, Could you try and mount that partition on a different mount point?
[04:54] <K-Ryan> Don't know I just tried to enable it through system settings>disks and drives
[04:54] <K-Ryan> disk & filesystem*
[04:55] <K-Ryan> I'm having trouble with it anyway, it won't open -.-
[04:56] <hyper_ch> hiho, who has feisty herd2 installed?
[04:56] <n8k99> hyper_ch: I do
[04:57] <aa> are there any kubuntu artwork proposals made yet?
[04:57] <Murchadh> K-Ryan, Try at a shell, sudo mkdir /media/dvd; sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hd? /media/dvd
[04:57] <hyper_ch> n8k99: I have problems with grub there... it can't find the correct partitions anymore
[04:57] <just-this-time> any mame experience here ? like in http://www.mame.net ~ http://x.mame.net ? please read
[04:57] <Murchadh> K-Ryan, Replace the ? with b,c or d! WHatever it is...
[04:58] <n8k99> hyper_ch:did you do a fresh install or an upgrade
[04:58] <just-this-time> !alternate | hyper_ch
[04:58] <ubotu> hyper_ch: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[04:58] <mineur> !mame
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <just-this-time> mineur !@
[04:58] <just-this-time> any mame experience here ? like in http://www.mame.net ~ http://x.mame.net ? please read
[04:58] <hyper_ch> n8k99: upgrade with herd 1 --> same result... after rebooting grub fails to selec tthe proprer partition
[04:58] <kkosmo> somone can help me how i can change only the kconsole language not all the system only the kconsole?
[04:58] <n8k99> Hyper_ch also you'll get better support in #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[04:58] <hyper_ch> n8k99: then I did an isntall with the alternate cd --> install was also fine except after reboot problems with the partition
[04:59] <manchicken> just-this-time: Please stop repeating yourself.  If nobody answered, it might be that nobody knows the answer to your CD.
[04:59] <fernando__> ola
[04:59] <just-this-time> konsole you mean kkosmo
[04:59] <hyper_ch> n8k99: ok, I'll look there
[04:59] <fernando__> hello
[04:59] <kkosmo> yes
[04:59] <kkosmo> i wrong
[04:59] <kkosmo> sorry
[04:59] <manchicken> Err, question.
[04:59] <just-this-time> manchicken: tyvm what is CD ?
[04:59] <manchicken> (where did I get CD from?)
[04:59] <K-Ryan> "cannot create 'media/dvd;" File exists"
[04:59] <fernando__> alguien habla espaol?
[04:59] <kkosmo> how can i do that you know
[04:59] <kkosmo> ?
[04:59] <mineur> fernando__: si
[04:59] <manchicken> !es | fernando__
[04:59] <ubotu> fernando__: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:59] <mineur> !es
[04:59] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:00] <K-Ryan> It's mounted, just not enabled
[05:00] <dromer> anyone: I want to move my /home to another partition, how can I best do this?
[05:00] <just-this-time> manchicken: tyvm what is CD ?
[05:00] <manchicken> mineur: I win ;)
[05:00] <kkosmo> !konsole
[05:00] <ubotu> konsole: X terminal emulator for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 710 kB, installed size 2192 kB
[05:00] <mineur> yeah but I do speak spanish too lol
[05:00] <fernando__> gracias
[05:00] <manchicken> just-this-time: STOP repeating yourself.  If you were paying attention you would have noticed that I typod saying "CD" when I meant question.
[05:00] <mineur> de nada :)
[05:00] <manchicken> fernando__: De nada.
[05:00] <mineur> I win :p
[05:00] <manchicken> mineur: You beat me there.
[05:00] <mineur> lol
[05:01] <K-Ryan> hablo espanol igual
[05:01] <just-this-time> manchicken you dont CapsLOCK me
[05:01] <Murchadh> K-Ryan, Type mount at a shell and see if /dev/hd? is listed, and where it's mounted. It may be that only root has access to it at the moment!
[05:02] <K-Ryan> Murchadh I don't see my normal cd rom drive either o.O
[05:02] <K-Ryan> But they both show up in storage
[05:02] <K-Ryan> and when trying to enable the dvd drive i was root
[05:03] <Murchadh> K-Ryan, Can you paste-bin /etc/fstab?
[05:03] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:03] <K-Ryan> !pastebin
[05:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:04] <K-Ryan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2048/
[05:04] <mefisto_> I need help!!!!!!!
[05:04] <Murchadh> K-Ryan, Nice one, I'll have a look! brb
[05:04] <K-Ryan> mefisto_ that doesn't tell s what your problem is.
[05:05] <mefisto_> somebody can help me with kubuntu?
[05:05] <K-Ryan> This is the Kubuntu channel isn't it?
[05:05] <mefisto_> yeah...
[05:05] <K-Ryan> Start by telling us your problem. =P
[05:05] <mefisto_> I'm gonna try to relax a little more =p
[05:05] <mefisto_> alright, I have two problems right now, I just installed kubuntu a few hours ago and Adept is screwed up by now!
[05:06] <K-Ryan> Did it crash?
[05:06] <mefisto_> whenever I'm executing adept, it shows the following message:
[05:06] <K-Ryan> !adeptfix | mefisto_
[05:06] <ubotu> mefisto_: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[05:06] <K-Ryan> Try that
[05:06] <mefisto_> The APT database could not be opened!
[05:06] <mefisto_> alrightt, I'm gonna try it
[05:08] <RadiantFire> does anyone here know how to enable tv-out with the intel i810 driver?
[05:08] <mineur> if you know, tell me :d
[05:09] <mefisto_> K-Ryan : I think nothing happened...
[05:09] <K-Ryan> Did you try opening adept?
[05:09] <mefisto_> yup, it shows the same message...
[05:09] <K-Ryan> Hrmm then it didn't crash on you did it?
[05:09] <K-Ryan> No matter
[05:10] <K-Ryan> Have you tried a log out log in?
[05:10] <mefisto_> no, I closed it after a few installs and then I couldn't open it anymore; and I already restarted the pc
[05:10] <K-Ryan> That's strange...
[05:11] <mefisto_> well... there's another issue, can you help me?
[05:11] <K-Ryan> I can try
[05:11] <mefisto_> thank you!
[05:11] <K-Ryan> Mind you most other people are more helpful than me.
[05:11] <Murchadh> K-Ryan, You could try the last line like this /dev/hdd /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0. But there is only mention of one optical drive there, is that right?
[05:11] <K-Ryan> I've only been on Kubuntu for a few days so I only know how to fix what I've encountered
[05:12] <mefisto_> well, whenever I drag mp3 files to Amarok, they don't play!
[05:12] <K-Ryan> You don't have the codecs =P
[05:12] <mefisto_> they're just on the playlist but nothing happens
[05:12] <mefisto_> duh
[05:12] <K-Ryan> Hold on a second with that
[05:12] <mefisto_> what do I need?
[05:12] <manchicken> mefisto_: Install libxine
[05:12] <K-Ryan> manchicken isn't it called something-extracodecs
[05:12] <K-Ryan> ?
[05:12] <manchicken> !mp3
[05:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:12] <mefisto_> manchicken, where do I get that without adept T___T
[05:13] <manchicken> mefisto_: I like adept, but apt-get will work, too.
[05:13] <K-Ryan> Murchadh What I pasted is what I have.
[05:13] <manchicken> What's wrong with adept?
[05:13] <K-Ryan> It won't open for him.
[05:13] <Jucato> manchicken is biased with Adept :P
[05:13] <manchicken> Why not?
[05:13] <mefisto_> I think I can learn how to use apt-get while I don't have adept
[05:13] <Murchadh> K-Ryan, Have you a cd and a dvd drive or just one, /dev/hdd?
[05:13] <K-Ryan> It tells him "The APT database could not be opened!"
[05:13] <Jucato> mefisto_: why won't it open?
[05:13] <Jucato> mefisto_: did you try the commands given by the bot?
[05:14] <mefisto_> adept crashes! it says it has some issues with the database
[05:14] <manchicken> mefisto_: Are you running it with kdesu?
[05:14] <K-Ryan> Murchadh it's two seperate drives.
[05:14] <mefisto_> jucato: adept doesn't opens cause of the database, it says
[05:14] <K-Ryan> manchicken he is new he probably doesn't know what kdesu is
[05:14] <Jucato> mefisto_: did you try the commands?
[05:14] <Jucato> !adeptcrashfix | mefisto_
[05:14] <ubotu> mefisto_: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[05:14] <K-Ryan> He did
[05:14] <K-Ryan> I gave it to him already
[05:14] <Jucato> mefisto_: those commands ^^^^^
[05:14] <mefisto_> how can I use kdesu?
[05:14] <Jucato> K-Ryan: I know... I'm asking is whether he did the commands...
[05:15] <K-Ryan> He did =P
[05:15] <mefisto_> jucato: where do i write !adeptcrashfix ???
[05:15] <mefisto_> in the konsole?
[05:15] <K-Ryan> -.-
[05:15] <K-Ryan> Yes
[05:15] <Jucato> K-Ryan: see
[05:15] <Jucato> mefisto_: no...
[05:15] <K-Ryan> Not !adeptcrashfix
[05:15] <K-Ryan> This
[05:15] <mefisto_> -__-
[05:15] <mefisto_> what?
[05:15] <Jucato> mefisto_: read the instructins...
[05:15] <Murchadh> K-Ryan, OK, add this line to the end of your /etc/fstab - /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0. Put a data cd in both and try to access them.
[05:15] <K-Ryan> !adeptfix | mefist_
[05:15] <ubotu> mefist_: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[05:15] <K-Ryan> Murchadh that's the thing, the drive won't open.
[05:16] <Murchadh> K-Ryan, sudo umount /dev/hdd
[05:16] <K-Ryan> Oops, forgot the o in your name mefisto_ =/
[05:16] <Murchadh> K-Ryan, sudo eject /dev/hdd
[05:16] <mefisto_> ubotu: I already tried that... and it doesn't works O_o
[05:16] <K-Ryan> Murchadh it's like that in Windows too
[05:17] <K-Ryan> i typed in sudo eject /dev/hdd
[05:17] <Jucato> mefisto_: how doesn't it work?
[05:17] <K-Ryan> Nothing is happening
[05:17] <Jucato> mefisto_: first enter this command: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[05:17] <mefisto_> the command line you gave me, already  tried it
[05:17] <mefisto_> alright
[05:17] <Jucato> mefisto_: then this: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:17] <Pekke> Hi again! Does anybody know what is the problem when Kopete gives me only a blue screen when i try my webcam? i can not choose anything from the webcam settings menu in kopete.
[05:18] <K-Ryan> I swear my damn DVD drive is locked in
[05:18] <K-Ryan> I've tried prying it open >.>
[05:18] <manchicken> K-Ryan: Use the paperclip hole.
[05:18] <manchicken> K-Ryan: Is it mounted?!
[05:18] <K-Ryan> There is no paperclip hole =(
[05:18] <K-Ryan> manchicken when my computer was off =P
[05:18] <Tm_T> Pekke: Sounds like there's no drivers for cam, can you replug camera and say "dmesg | tail" in konsole?
[05:18] <manchicken> You could also try 'sudo eject'
[05:19] <mefisto_> jucato: alright, I already did all you said
[05:19] <mefisto_> now, lemme try to open adept
[05:19] <Tm_T> Pekke: If it returns something about camera and drivers etc, just look how it goes.
[05:19] <K-Ryan> Hold on
[05:19] <K-Ryan> It definitly sounded like it wanted to come out.
[05:19] <mefisto_> same crap... The APT Database could not be opened! This may be....
[05:19] <Murchadh> K-Ryan, It's all a little odd. Try booting and then pressing eject before the machine actually boots.
[05:20] <K-Ryan> my cd drive opened -.-
[05:20] <manchicken> mefisto_: What command are you typing to start adept?
[05:20] <K-Ryan> manchicken I think he is clicking it
[05:20] <mefisto_> not command, I'm trying to execute it from KDE
[05:20] <mefisto_> yeah, clicking
[05:20] <manchicken> mefisto_: Try this command: `kdesu -c adept_manager`
[05:21] <K-Ryan> Well Murchadh I now know how to eject my cd tray from Konsole
[05:21] <K-Ryan> But the DVD still won't pop out
[05:21] <K-Ryan> I should get one of those ones where the cd slides in and out
[05:21] <K-Ryan> No tray
[05:21] <Murchadh> K-Ryan, sudo eject /dev/hdc
[05:21] <mefisto_> it says it couldn't find any command named adept_manager O_O
[05:21] <K-Ryan> mefisto_ did you do sudo adept_manager
[05:21] <K-Ryan> or was it kdesu...
[05:22] <K-Ryan> I can't remember...
[05:22] <Pekke> Kosole gives me the followin when i type dmesg tail: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
[05:22] <manchicken> K-Ryan: You can specify a device to eject.
[05:22] <Pekke> USB OV518 video device found
[05:22] <K-Ryan> Murchadh when I type that it just skips to the next line
[05:22] <manchicken> K-Ryan: `sudo eject /dev/whatever`
[05:22] <mefisto_> yes K-ryan, I did sudo adept_manager
[05:22] <Pekke> Device revision 17
[05:22] <Pekke> Compression required with OV518...enabling
[05:22] <manchicken> K-Ryan: kdesu.
[05:23] <manchicken> Don't use sudo.
[05:23] <mefisto_> it says 'command not found'
[05:23] <Murchadh> K-Ryan, Try sudo umount /dev/hdc first and then sudo eject /dev/hdc
[05:23] <Pekke> Sensor is an OV6620
[05:23] <Pekke> Device at usb-0000:00:07.2-2.1 registered to minor 0
[05:23] <manchicken> Sudo for X proggies can cause permissions issues in X files.
[05:23] <K-Ryan> not mounted
[05:23] <K-Ryan> Oh yeah, I never put that line in my fstab
[05:23] <K-Ryan> because there is UUID=################
[05:23] <K-Ryan> What am I supposed to do for that/
[05:23] <mefisto_> I used: kdesu adept_manager and it says: cannot connect to X server
[05:23] <K-Ryan> Or is that just for drives?
[05:24] <Murchadh> !uuid
[05:24] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[05:24] <manchicken> mefisto_: Try `xhost +` and then try the other command again.
[05:24] <mefisto_> now it says: unable to open display
[05:25] <mefisto_> dude, this is a littler though for a noob like me XD
[05:25] <manchicken> `echo $DISPLAY`
[05:25] <manchicken> mefisto_: Do `echo $DISPLAY`
[05:25] <K-Ryan> Murchadh I'm not sure I know what to do with this
[05:25] <mefisto_> already did it
[05:25] <manchicken> What did it tell you?
[05:26] <mefisto_> nothing, it just passes to the other line of command in the konsole
[05:26] <manchicken> Okay, are you running xgl?
[05:26] <mefisto_> and then I use kdesu again and it says unable to opel display
[05:26] <mefisto_> no, I'm using KDE 3.5.2
[05:26] <manchicken> type `export DISPLAY=':0.0'` and then try running the kdesu -c adept_manager thing again
[05:27] <mefisto_> but after a few updates my adept went crazy and it doesn't open now xD
[05:28] <mefisto_> well, the root@ bla blabla disappeared, it's only the command line now O_o
[05:28] <manchicken> What USER are you in as?
[05:28] <mefisto_> but, still, nothing happens with kdesu
[05:29] <manchicken> What does `whoami` give you?
[05:29] <K-Ryan> mefisto_ it should say username@computer name
[05:29] <Murchadh> K-Ryan, Just a quick howto on mounting. Mount point must exist (/media/cdrom), device must exist (/dev/hdc) and what type the partition is (ext3, ntfs, vfat, etc.). So to mount your DVD, I think the command at a prompt is - sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /media/dvd. See what it says....
[05:29] <K-Ryan> Murchadh I'm not sure what it's telling me to do
[05:30] <Murchadh> K-Ryan, When you know it works, then we'll adapt it for inclusion in /etc/fstab!
[05:30] <manchicken> mefisto_: kdesu will pop up a password window before executing adept.
[05:30] <Murchadh> K-Ryan, sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /media/dvd - what does it repoprt?
[05:31] <mefisto_> check this please http://www.flickr.com/photos/17562250@N00/361654042/
[05:31] <manchicken> heh
[05:31] <manchicken> When I say `something`, only use the stuff between the `s
[05:31] <manchicken> Don't actually type the `s
[05:32] <manchicken> Hit Ctrl-D to get out of the > prompt
[05:32] <mefisto_> alright, I'm outta the prompt
[05:32] <mefisto_> now?
[05:32] <manchicken> Are you currently logged into KDE as root?
[05:32] <mefisto_> no, I'm gonna log as a root
[05:32] <mefisto_> brb
[05:32] <manchicken> No
[05:32] <manchicken> Don't
[05:32] <mefisto_> alright, don't
[05:32] <manchicken> Why are you into the shell as root?
[05:33] <mefisto_> i don't know, it was just like that
[05:33] <manchicken> type `whoami` and tell me what it says?
[05:33] <mefisto_> mefisto mefisto@mefisto-laptop
[05:34] <mefisto_> manchicken, it says: mefisto mefisto@mefisto-laptop
[05:34] <manchicken> Okay.
[05:34] <K-Ryan> Sorry, phone call
[05:34] <K-Ryan> back now
[05:34] <manchicken> Now, `echo $DISPLAY`
[05:34] <manchicken> What does that say?
[05:35] <K-Ryan> Murchadh I typed that sudo mount line
[05:35] <mefisto_> it says :0.0
[05:35] <K-Ryan> "mount: No medium found"
[05:35] <manchicken> mefisto_: Good.
[05:35] <manchicken> mefisto_: Now type `kdesu -c adept_manager`
[05:35] <mefisto_> alright
[05:36] <Murchadh> K-Ryan, Anything in that drive /dev/hdc?
[05:36] <manchicken> It should give you a window asking for a password before starting adept.
[05:36] <mefisto_> it asked for my password
[05:36] <mefisto_> yup
[05:36] <K-Ryan> i dont remember making anything it
[05:36] <K-Ryan> i have hda hdb and hdd for cd
[05:36] <manchicken> mefisto_: Give it your password and hit enter
[05:36] <K-Ryan> hda and hdb are HDDs
[05:36] <manchicken> Your USER password, not your root password.
[05:37] <K-Ryan> root pass isn't the same as user pass?
[05:37] <K-Ryan> mine is...
[05:37] <manchicken> If you set it to the same, it is.
[05:37] <K-Ryan> I never set a root pass though
[05:38] <manchicken> K-Ryan: Your sudo password is your user password, but if you said `su - root` I suspect it might be different.
[05:38] <Murchadh> K-Ryan, .....and you have a cd-rom AND a dvd-drive. Is this correct?
[05:38] <K-Ryan> Yes Murchadh
[05:38] <manchicken> K-Ryan: Most of what you're doing is with sudo, not with actual root password.
[05:38] <K-Ryan> But the DVD drive won't open
[05:38] <manchicken> !sudo
[05:38] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:38] <manchicken> That's the feller.
[05:38] <mefisto_> manchicken...
[05:39] <mefisto_> check this please http://www.flickr.com/photos/17562250@N00/361660503/
[05:39] <K-Ryan> Yeah don't worry about me, help mefisto_
[05:39] <mefisto_> it says command not found
[05:39] <waylandbill> i wouldn't set a root password.. no point if you just so a "sudo -s" you get the same thing
[05:39] <aa> is there any good website connected to kubuntu?
[05:39] <mefisto_> and after I write my password, it says it couldn't find the command adept_manager
[05:39] <K-Ryan> mefisto_ you know there is a spanish help channe
[05:39] <K-Ryan> *channel
[05:39] <manchicken> mefisto_: What does that error message translate to?
[05:40] <manchicken> Ah.
[05:40] <manchicken> Type `which adept_manager`
[05:40] <Murchadh> K-Ryan, I am assuming that /dev/hdc is your dvd-drive and /dev/hdd is your cd-rom drive! You'll need to get a data cd in both just to get them to mount.
[05:40] <manchicken> Does that give you anythying?
[05:40] <K-Ryan> Murchadh "It won't open"
[05:40] <mefisto_> it gives me nothing
[05:41] <maria> hola
[05:41] <manchicken> mefisto_: Try this `sudo apt-get install adept-manager`
[05:42] <Murchadh> K-Ryan, And you don't think there is anything in it. Try sudo eject /dev/hdc and if that doesn't open it, I'm not sure what the problem is!
[05:42] <K-Ryan> It didn't open
[05:42] <manchicken> K-Ryan: Will it open while booting?
[05:42] <K-Ryan> Won't open, period
[05:43] <manchicken> K-Ryan: Laptop or desktop?
[05:43] <mefisto_> manchicken: http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=361663956&size=o
[05:43] <K-Ryan> desktop
[05:44] <manchicken> K-Ryan: Sounds like it's time to crack open the box.
[05:44] <K-Ryan> I did
[05:44] <manchicken> mefisto_: No hablo espanol ^_^, could you translate?
[05:44] <K-Ryan> I tried moving it a little and that didnt do anything
[05:44] <K-Ryan> I unplugged and replugged the wires
[05:44] <K-Ryan> and because of the damn rivets in this case i cant take it out
[05:44] <manchicken> See if there are any manual override holes.
[05:45] <K-Ryan> its like it's caged in
[05:45] <mefisto_> sure I can (maybe I should change the language to english, can i do it?)
[05:45] <manchicken> Just drill the rivets ^_^
[05:45] <manchicken> mefisto_: It'd be simple enough if you just translate.
[05:45] <K-Ryan> but then the case isnt stable
[05:45] <manchicken> K-Ryan: Stability is overrated ;)
[05:45] <K-Ryan> i dont want my dvd drive to fall onto my cd drive which would then fall on my motherboard
[05:45] <K-Ryan> = need new computer
[05:45] <mefisto_> manchicken: it says Type 'http:bla bla bla getswiftfox' is unknown in the line 1 of in the list of sources E: it was impossible to read the list of sources
[05:46] <mefisto_> I think it's about the repositories
[05:46] <mefisto_> I screwed some line, maybe?
[05:46] <manchicken> mefisto_: Can you paste your sources.list?
[05:46] <manchicken> !paste
[05:46] <mefisto_> with that swift fox thing...
[05:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:46] <manchicken> mefisto_: Go to that site and paste the contents of your sources.list file
[05:47] <mefisto_> right...
[05:47] <darkstar> Hi..
[05:49] <mefisto_> !paste
[05:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:49] <mefisto_> wth
[05:49] <mefisto_> deb http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[05:49] <mefisto_> deb http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[05:49] <mefisto_> deb-src http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[05:49] <mefisto_> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[05:49] <mefisto_> ## distribution.
[05:49] <manchicken> mefisto_: not here
[05:49] <mefisto_> deb http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[05:49] <manchicken> mefisto_: In the paste URL
[05:49] <mefisto_> deb-src http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[05:49] <mefisto_> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[05:49] <manchicken> !paste | mefisto_
[05:49] <mefisto_> ## repository.
[05:49] <ubotu> mefisto_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:50] <mefisto_> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[05:50] <mefisto_> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[05:50] <mefisto_> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[05:50] <mefisto_> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[05:50] <mefisto_> ## team.
[05:50] <manchicken> mefisto_: DO NOT PASTE HERE PLEASE.
[05:50] <mefisto_> # deb http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[05:50] <mefisto_> # deb-src http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[05:50] <mefisto_> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[05:50] <mefisto_> ## repository.
[05:50] <mefisto_> ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
[05:50] <mefisto_> ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
[05:50] <sampan> i just set up SKIM to work on edgy.  upon reboot, i get an error msg "could not start ksmserver" and it stops and puts me back at login screen
[05:50] <manchicken> Nobody listens....
[05:50] <mefisto_> ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
[05:50] <manchicken> They just paste.
[05:50] <mefisto_> ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
[05:50] <mefisto_> ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
[05:50] <mefisto_> # deb http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:51] <mefisto_> # deb-src http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:51] <mefisto_> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[05:51] <mefisto_> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[05:51] <mefisto_> # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[05:51] <mefisto_> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[05:51] <mefisto_> duh, sorry
[05:51] <mefisto_> brb manchicken
[05:51] <mefisto_> alright, got it, sorry aboout that -__-
[05:51] <mefisto_> brb
[05:51] <sampan> i just set up SKIM to work on edgy.  upon reboot, i get an error msg "could not start ksmserver" and it stops and puts me back at login screen.  any ideas?
[05:51] <manchicken> Even if it didn't spam the channel, it's hard to read a text fie via IRC ^_^
[05:52] <Flying_Eagle> sampan, how did you make skim work? did you change permissions or stuff like that?
[05:52] <anouk> heej
[05:52] <anouk> privatu
[05:52] <sampan> Flying_Eagle, nope, i followed the directions on the community page
[05:53] <anouk> are you englihe
[05:53] <Flying_Eagle> sampan, give a link
[05:54] <sampan> Flying_Eagle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM/Kubuntu  (sorry had to find it again)
[05:54] <anouk> holanders
[05:55] <sampan> Flying_Eagle, seems someone else has this problem too, but no solution posted: http://www.nabble.com/Problem-with-skim-in-Kubuntu-6.10-Edgy-t2870711s16577.html
[05:55] <K-Ryan> !languages
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about languages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <Xera|> ok, stupid moment now..
[05:56] <Flying_Eagle> sampan, the only thing i see which could cause problems would be "cp /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/scim-pinyin ~/.xinput.d/default"
[05:56] <Xera|> i managed to hide the nickname list in konversation with some key, how do i bring it back?
[05:56] <Flying_Eagle> so id suggest you to read the file and watch out for bugs
[05:57] <Flying_Eagle> Xera|, just look it up in the shortcut-setting-dialog
[05:57] <Xera|> _._
[05:57] <Xera|> k
[05:57] <mefisto_> manchicken
[05:57] <Xera|> found it
[05:57] <Xera|> :P
[05:58] <mefisto_> manchicken?
[05:58] <sampan> Flying_Eagle, yeah i had to actually create the directory and file for it to even cp -- i'll poke around it
[05:59] <manchicken> yeah?
[05:59] <xst> After upgrading to edgy the "noauto" option in /etc/fstab is no longer respected; even mount points with "noauto" are being mounted automatically upon boot. How can I fix this?
[05:59] <HymnToLife> xst, please !pastebin your fstab
[06:00] <mefisto_> I got this manchicken
[06:00] <mefisto_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2061/
[06:00] <mefisto_> I think the problem is within the first line!!!
[06:00] <mefisto_> I added that line by mistake ~____~
[06:00] <HymnToLife> mefisto_, yep, just delete it
[06:00] <Jucato> mefisto_: definitely
[06:00] <manchicken> mefisto_: Yeah, kill that line or comment it out.
[06:00] <mefisto_> how can I delete it? It says I cannot 'cause I'm a root
[06:01] <xst> HymnToLife: http://rafb.net/p/cQoN2736.html
[06:01] <mefisto_> I'm not a root
[06:01] <HymnToLife> !root | mefisto_
[06:01] <ubotu> mefisto_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:01] <Jucato> mefisto_: right-click on the file, select Actions -> Edit as root.  (if you're in Konqueror)
[06:01] <manchicken> mefisto_: `sudo EDITOR /etc/apt/sources.list`
[06:01] <HymnToLife> xst, the _whole_ file please
[06:02] <Jucato> manchicken: is the EDITOR env var set by default?
[06:02] <mefisto_> I didi it now... I'm gonna try to open adept T__T
[06:02] <manchicken> Dunno.
[06:02] <xst> HymnToLife: Here U go: http://rafb.net/p/Umz8X557.html
[06:02] <Jucato> manchicken: afaik, it isn't...
[06:02] <manchicken> I put that in more as a human search and replace token ;)
[06:02] <manchicken> Thus, no dollar sign.
[06:03] <Jucato> manchicken: very confusing, since you're giving a real command, it seems :)
[06:03] <mefisto_> HOLY MOTHER OF GOD
[06:03] <DeadFishMan> lol
[06:03] <Jucato> ...
[06:03] <mefisto_> thank you guys... step after step I found the problem!!!!!
[06:03] <manchicken> Jucato: Have I ever, at any point in time, indicated that I made sense?
[06:03] <mefisto_> love ya T.T
[06:03] <Jucato> manchicken: lots of times :)
[06:03] <manchicken> mefisto_: Congrats.  Enjoy.
[06:04] <Jucato> mefisto_: feel free to send a check to manchicken...
[06:04] <mefisto_> how's that?
[06:04] <manchicken> Jucato: If you mistook me as the kind of person who makes sense, I suppose that's your mistake, not mine ;)
[06:04] <mefisto_> no T-T
[06:04] <mefisto_> a check, money T-T
[06:04] <mefisto_> I installed kubuntu 'cuz I'm poor T-T
[06:04] <Jucato> manchicken: I guess... any person who wants to work on Adept, by definition, doesn't make sense :P
[06:04] <mefisto_> windoze is too expensive j/k
[06:05] <DeadFishMan> manchicken: You were suggesting him to use the text editor defined on $EDITOR to edit sources.list? :)
[06:05] <mace__> i tried to add new repositories. My problem is where to get the GPG key.. i added this but i wonder if thats right -> "wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg"
[06:05] <DeadFishMan> manchicken: You are so mean! That could be anything, inclusing emacs and vi. XD
[06:05] <manchicken> DeadFishMan: No, I was putting EDITOR in to mean "your favorite editor here"
[06:05] <DeadFishMan> manchicken: Even nano is not what most people would expect to see there... :)
[06:06] <DeadFishMan> manchicken: Oh!
[06:06] <Jucato> manchicken: told you it was confusing
[06:06] <manchicken> DeadFishMan: And I still think the kubuntu default should have emacs as the default editor ;)
[06:06] <DeadFishMan> manchicken: Then it is OK :)
[06:06] <sampan> Flying_Eagle, i guess it was the perms on that copied file ... changed them to 666 (from 644) and now it works fine :)  thanks
[06:06] <manchicken> emacs++
[06:06] <DeadFishMan> manchicken: ROTFL
[06:06] <manchicken> "When manchicken hacks, him like haxxoring in GNU Emacs.  Get your freedom here!"
[06:06] <DeadFishMan> manchicken
[06:07] <mefisto_> now, what's the procedure to install the xlib for mp3 playback?
[06:07] <DeadFishMan> manchicken: VI rulez! XD
[06:07] <manchicken> DeadFishMan: Editor of the beast: vi vi vi
[06:07] <Jucato> mefisto_: install "libxine-extracodecs"
[06:07] <HymnToLife> DeadFishMan, yep, its vi though
[06:07] <DeadFishMan> HymnToLife: I stand corrected. Thanks! :)
[06:07] <Flying_Eagle> sampan, so what did i say at the beginning, huh? ;)
[06:07] <DeadFishMan> manchicken: lol
[06:08] <sampan> flying_eagle  ;)  well i wouldn't have checked that file except you pointed it out and then google searches on that error msg turned up problems with other kde things that related to perms -- w00t
[06:09] <Taime1> adept asks me to insert my cdrom , so i do, then it just keeps telling me to do so as if i havent inserted the disc, what gives?
[06:09] <mace__> i tried to add new repositories. My problem is where to get the GPG key.. i added this but i wonder if thats right -> kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[06:09] <jpiccolo> i am having a problem with a ntfs partion, windows and linux can both access it but linux cant see what windows wrote to it and linux cant see what windows wrote
[06:10] <raeez> !adeptfix
[06:10] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[06:10] <Taime1> raeez, that isnt the problem
[06:10] <Jucato> mace__:  wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[06:10] <Jucato> mace__: then: sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[06:10] <Jucato> (should be in the same directory)
[06:11] <raeez> Taime1: what do you mean?
[06:11] <Taime1> i think #ubuntu got me
[06:11] <mace__> Jucato: mh if i add any new repo.. do i always have to add this key again o0 ?
[06:11] <Taime1> i guess adept doesnt need to use my cd, so i will disable that in my repos
[06:11] <Murchadh> Taime1, apt-cdrom --help
[06:11] <Jucato> Taime1: in Adept, go to View -> Manage Repositories, then right-click -> Disable the cdrom line
[06:11] <Taime1> right...
[06:11] <Jucato> mace__: no. only once for the kubuntu.org repository
[06:11] <Taime1> they just helped me in #ubuntu
[06:11] <Taime1> but thanks anyways
[06:12] <raeez> lol sorry Taime1 i was getting that for me
[06:12] <Taime1> oh, haha
[06:12] <raeez> Taime1: I just entered the chatroom :)
[06:12] <Taime1> i see
[06:12] <Taime1> hehe
[06:12] <raeez> hehe
[06:12] <mace__> Jucato: is this here included? deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main
[06:13] <Jucato> mace__: yes. anything from kubuntu.org repositories is signed with Riddell's key.
[06:14] <mace__> Jucato: ah okay.. but what does it mean if there is a "(packages, GPG key: DD4D5088)" behind it?
[06:14] <Jucato> mace__: that I don't know... it's just a comment anyway (I guess you got it from source-o-matic)
[06:15] <mace__> Jucato: no, from here: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/sources.list
[06:16] <Taime1> so if i am installing an nvidia driver for my nForce card, all i need to do is install the restriced modules package, then install the nvidia-glx package?
[06:18] <raeez> where is a good place to get a list of nice repositories :)
[06:18] <manchicken> raeez: Be careful which repos you trust.
[06:19] <Jucato> if ever you find one. don't ever trust a repo that comes from a guy named manchicken...
[06:19] <raeez> ok
[06:19] <raeez> lol
[06:19] <Taime1> raeez, whats wrong with the default repos?
[06:20] <raeez> im just experimenting thats all, i didnt even know about the commercial one untill recently
[06:20] <DeadFishMan> raeez: You can try http://www.apt-get.org but be careful. It is intended mainly for Debian and it may break Ubuntu
[06:20] <raeez> in newish to linux
[06:20] <Jucato> raeez: just fyi... when main restricted universe and multiverse are all enabled, there are 20,000+ packages available
[06:20] <manchicken> If I had repos, it'd only have GNU Emacs.
[06:20] <manchicken> ^_^
[06:20] <raeez> woah
[06:20] <DeadFishMan> lol
[06:20] <raeez> there are only about 2000 open for me
[06:20] <mefisto_> manchicken
[06:21] <manchicken> mefisto_
[06:21] <DeadFishMan> raeez: 2000 open what? Applications?
[06:21] <mefisto_> I'm installing the codecs via konsole right now... would you recommend me to update my KDE to the latest version?
[06:21] <manchicken> Not me.
[06:21] <Taime1> latest stable version
[06:21] <Jucato> raeez: not good to experiment by mixing repositories, specially for newbies :)
[06:21] <manchicken> It might be good, but I wouldn't say it's necessary.
[06:21] <Taime1> i agree with jucato
[06:21] <Jucato> mefisto_: are you on Dapper or Edgy?
[06:21] <mefisto_> Dapper
[06:21] <manchicken> I know people who're still running KDE 3.5.2 without any trouble.
[06:21] <Taime1> i had that same problem when i began using mepis
[06:22] <raeez> 2000 available apps
[06:22] <raeez> so i should just stick to the ones in sources.list
[06:22] <raeez> uncomment the commented out ones?
[06:22] <Jucato> raeez: it just means that you don't have much of the repositories enabled
[06:23] <Jucato> if you're on Edgy, that means that multiverse and the backports are still commented/disabled
[06:23] <raeez> yeah i just enabled them
[06:23] <DeadFishMan> raeez: That is only the small subset that Ubuntu supports officialy. You can see more software available if you enle Ubuntu universe repositories
[06:23] <raeez> is there any place i can learn about how linux works? the internal workings :) ive been stuck with windows too long and i dont want to stay a newbie for much longer :)
[06:24] <mefisto_> HELLA YEAHJ!!!!
[06:24] <mefisto_> I can listen to my mp3 now ;____;
[06:25] <mefisto_> every little victory makes me love this thing more and more T.T
[06:25] <jpiccolo> what? bash: man: command not found
[06:26] <jpiccolo> whats going on there ^
[06:26] <Jucato> jpiccolo: what command were you trying?
[06:26] <jpiccolo> man users
[06:26] <Jucato> hm..
[06:26] <mace__> is it working with konqueror?
[06:26] <mace__> man:/users
[06:26] <jpiccolo> yep
[06:27] <mace__> so you got an alternative :)
[06:28] <raeez> is anybody here experienced with ati cards on kubuntu?
[06:28] <manchicken> raeez: I have an ATI.
[06:28] <jpiccolo> mace__: but why wont it work in the terminal
[06:28] <raeez> I have a x1900XTX and it works fine for everything except for fullscreen video which is choppy, I have the latest driver from the ati site installed
[06:29] <manchicken> raeez: (I'm infected with ATI)
[06:29] <raeez> manchiken: can you assist then? does your video work fine?
[06:29] <manchicken> raeez: Don't use the ATI drivers.  Use the xorg drivers.
[06:29] <mace__> jpiccolo: have you tried to restart the terminal?
[06:29] <norbert> anyone ever experience this with a thinkpad: when running on battery, the fan is on high (with the annoying famous tp hum) even though the laptop is mainly idle. But, when all I do is plug in the AC, the fan quiets down to a inaudible level. I tried switching the kpowersave mode manually to "performance" while on battery - but that didn't fix it
[06:29] <manchicken> Video is smooth and sweet, but not with the ATI drivers.
[06:29] <jpiccolo> mace__: i just opened it
[06:30] <mace__> hm
[06:30] <manchicken> raeez: I found that ATI drivers destablize a working system.
[06:30] <raeez> thats what i found!!!
[06:30] <norbert> it's just wierd that the thinkpad runs quiet with the AC cord plugged in, but loud on battery - what could be changing when the AC cord gets plugged in?
[06:30] <manchicken> raeez: So uninstall all the flgrx drivers and just use the xorg drivers.
[06:31] <manchicken> raeez: 3D accel won't work, but everything else will work nicely.
[06:31] <Legolas_Faol> hello
[06:31] <raeez> will video work? thats all i want... i have a resolution of 1940x1200
[06:31] <Legolas_Faol> can you suggest me a grafic ftp client to upload sites?
[06:31] <raeez> Jucato do you have another way?
[06:32] <raeez> sorry my resolution of my monitor is 1920x1200
[06:32] <Dr_willis> Legolas_Faol,  i tend to use mc - but i am hardcore. there other clients out also.
[06:32] <DeadFishMan> Legolas_Faol: Konqueror :)
[06:32] <Jucato> raeez: sorry, I'm not an ATI guy...
[06:32] <Dr_willis> !find ftp
[06:32] <ubotu> Found: ftp, gftp-common, gftp-gtk, lftp, tftp-hpa (and 77 others)
[06:32] <manchicken> Jucato: If you bought an ATI or an nVidia, you did waste your money.
[06:32] <manchicken> ^_^
[06:32] <Legolas_Faol> konqueror???
[06:32] <Jucato> Legolas_Faol: Konqueror, kftpgrabber
[06:32] <Dr_willis> !find kftp
[06:32] <ubotu> Found: kftpgrabber, lurkftp
[06:32] <raeez> jucato why do you say that?
[06:32] <Dr_willis> Legolas_Faol,  i do belive konwueror has that feature as well.  - then theres the various FUSE tools/utilities
[06:32] <Jucato> raeez: because I use nvidia... that's why
[06:32] <Dr_willis> depends on how ya wantt to do the ftp stuff
[06:33] <DeadFishMan> Legolas_Faol: Yep... Try entering an ftp:// URL on the address field :)
[06:33] <Legolas_Faol> :p
[06:33] <raeez> jucato: at the time ati were winning so i went with them, i didnt know about the lacklustre linux support tho :(
[06:33] <Dr_willis> fish:// lets ya do ssh transfers
[06:33] <Jucato> heh :)
[06:33] <Dr_willis> smb:// is for samba... lets see what else is there.
[06:33] <manchicken> Jucato: nvidia drivers are just as bad as ATI.
[06:33] <Jucato> Dr_willis: don't forget sftp://
[06:33] <Dr_willis> is there a porn:// ?
[06:34] <Jucato> manchicken: not for desktops :)
[06:34] <raeez> jucato: mostly i do VR programming in windows tho so i need this gfx card
[06:34] <DeadFishMan> I became fond of Konqueror as FTP client lately: split the window in two, where the left hand panel show the local filesystem and the right hand panel shows the remote filesystem, then drag and drop files between them.
[06:34] <Dr_willis> how does sftp:// differ from fish:// ?
[06:34] <manchicken> Jucato: Just because you don't use the ACPI subsystem, doesn't mean it's not broken.
[06:34] <Jucato> manchicken: it just means I don't see that it's broken, therefore I don't know :)
[06:34] <raeez> jucato: where do i find the xorg drivers?
[06:34] <manchicken> Jucato: And that makes it okay?
[06:34] <Jucato> manchicken: just because you don't need 3D accel doesn't mean everybody doesn't :)
[06:34] <Legolas_Faol> up to now I've done it with the konsole
[06:34] <manchicken> raeez: The xorg drivers are in the kubuntu repos.
[06:35] <raeez> manchiken are they called xorg?
[06:35] <manchicken> Jucato: The people who do can just deal with the instabilities, or use a card that works with drivers that don't kill stability.
[06:35] <DeadFishMan> Legolas_Faol, if you are not scared of using the console every once in a while, I would like to recommend ncftp
[06:35] <Jucato> I think he meant the xserver-xorg-ati driver or something
[06:35] <manchicken> raeez: What Jucato said.
[06:35] <DeadFishMan> Legolas_Faol: Now that is a GOOD ftp client! :)
[06:35] <raeez> lol ok
[06:36] <Jucato> manchicken: then there are those who need the 3D accel, and can deal with the philosophical/ideological/ethical/moral issues
[06:36] <raeez> thanks
[06:36] <Legolas_Faol> yes, but not so usefull
[06:36] <Dr_willis> ideological :)
[06:36] <Legolas_Faol> heheeh
[06:36] <DeadFishMan> Jucato: even though I have the non-free 3D drivers installed, I do not use them that much
[06:37] <DeadFishMan> Jucato: Except for the occasional game every once in a while, the performance of the OSS nv driver is rather acceptable to me.
[06:37] <raeez> manchicken It says that i have it already in adept manager
[06:37] <Jucato> !xconfig | raeez