[13:26] <Andril> can some one look at this and tell me what you think for Ubuntu http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/acer-aspire-m1640-u1401a/4505-3118_7-33016439.html
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> st3ph: you can run msn with wine but not the latest one
[13:26] <legend2440> ganes: in terminal type     sudo apt-get install displayconfig-gtk
[13:27] <Kardoso> ganes: which ubuntu version you have?
[13:27] <waan> st3ph, pidgin supports pretty much every other im protocal also
[13:27] <slashjamiec> st3ph: emesene is a nice python GTK alternative.
[13:27] <st3ph> i cant login with my account in pidgin for msn only for irc
[13:27] <ganes> Kardoso, 7.04
[13:27] <st3ph> is there an alternative to wine?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> st3ph: you need to go to advanced connection settings and use http method
[13:27] <Kardoso> ganes, oh. please try to run 8.04 in live cd mode
[13:27] <slashjamiec> st3ph: Exactly, MSN login server is having issues. It's not the application, I've tried everything including executing commands directly from the protocol on 1863
[13:27] <st3ph> Action i dunno how
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> st3ph: cedega or crossover office (both cost)
[13:28] <ganes> Kardoso, i didnt 8.04 cd
[13:28] <slashjamiec> anywho, goodnight all
[13:28] <st3ph> poor slash (K)
[13:28] <ulifer> anyone knwo why dhcpcd shows up in synaptic package manager but no twhen i sudo aptitude search for it?
[13:28] <ganes> Kardoso, here net is very slow to download
[13:28] <slashjamiec> ehe thanks st3ph (K)(K)
[13:28] <st3ph> u go :(
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> st3ph: accounts -> manage -> modify the account and click advanced tab
[13:28] <slashjamiec> goodnight all (L)
[13:28] <st3ph> nighty hun
[13:28] <Kardoso> ganes, i could not try 7.04 because i only have 8.04
[13:28] <Kardoso> ganes, oh. im so sorry
[13:29] <st3ph> Action pm?
[13:29] <ganes> Kardoso, u got these problem anytime
[13:29] <st3ph> its maybe easier for me
[13:29] <ganes> Kardoso, i can order for ubuntu latest version .. how to
[13:29] <Kardoso> ganes, can you give me a link where can i download 7.04?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> ganes: shippit.ubuntu.org
[13:30] <ganes> ActionParsnip, its not opening
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> ganes: websearch for order ubuntu cds
[13:31] <Kardoso> ganes, one moment
[13:31] <ganes> Kardoso, i got this cd from from my friend i didnt know .. how to download
[13:31] <waan> ganes, it's probably a simple problem but hard to diagnose over chat
[13:32] <Ad0> is there a daemon in ubuntu that listens to apps that crash ?
[13:32] <Kardoso> ganes, https://shipit.ubuntu.com/  you can order it there
[13:32] <Kardoso> ganes, oh ok.
[13:33] <Pirate_Hunter> is there an app that changes theme when logging onto the system?
[13:34] <rblst> Pirate_Hunter: do you mean the login screen?
[13:34] <mandark> any idea how to update only my wine package
[13:34] <Pirate_Hunter> rblst: yes
[13:35] <ushimitsudoki> mandark: do you mean you want to install a newer package of wine than is in the repositories?
[13:35] <rblst> Pirate_Hunter: yes, in the System->Administration menu
[13:36] <Pirate_Hunter> ushimitsudoki: i think he means just update wine to a newer version through terminal
[13:36] <Pirate_Hunter> rblst: yah.... once i go there what do i do
[13:36] <kindofabuzz> mandark, winehq.com has all the info on how to add to repos
[13:36] <Kardoso> ganes, can you give me a link where to download 7.04? ill try it on my laptop
[13:37] <rblst> Pirate_Hunter: do you use gnome?
[13:37] <waan> Does anybody have an Intel Pro Wireless 200bg they use with Ubuntu?
[13:37] <waan> *2200bg
[13:37] <jrib> Kardoso: 7.04 is about to lose support in october, why would you want to install it now?
[13:38] <Pirate_Hunter> rblst: yah im just want the theme to change on every login or boot
[13:38] <Kardoso> jrib: i dont want to install it, just to test it in live cd mode
[13:38] <ganes> Kardoso, better google
[13:38] <ganes> Kardoso, i too dont know
[13:38] <Kardoso> jrib: i would like to help to ganes, we have same laptop
[13:38] <jrib> Kardoso: releases.ubuntu.com
[13:38] <Kardoso> jrib: ok. thanks
[13:38] <Kardoso> jrib: can i run it in live cd mode?
[13:39] <jrib> Kardoso: yep, just grab the Desktop CD and don't click on "Install" :)
[13:39] <Kardoso> jrib: ok :)
[13:39] <ganes> Kardoso, yeah you can help me
[13:40] <rblst> Pirate_Hunter: so there's an item "login screen" or something similar in that menu, i don't use the english version; or run /usr/sbin/gdmsetup in terminal
[13:40] <Siph0n> hey, how do I find out the workgroup name of my linux laptop?
[13:40] <Pirate_Hunter> rblst: thats for gdm im trying to change actual desktop themes on every boot or login its different
[13:40] <Finnish> Can I modify an XP-image in Ubuntu? And then burn it as a bootable iso?
[13:41] <rblst>  Pirate_Hunter: and then select the "local" tab at the top, and then change "theme" to "random"
[13:41] <Pirate_Hunter> is there an app that changes desktop theme on every boot or loggin?
[13:41] <Kardoso> ganes, i started to download it
[13:41] <ganes> Kardoso, try this link for 7.04 http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Ubuntu-Feisty-Fawn-Download-20757.html
[13:41] <ganes> Kardoso, i didnt see your previous messagge
[13:42] <st3ph> Action
[13:42] <rich_> any hardware guyds here?
[13:42] <legend2440> Siph0n: in terminal type     gedit /etc/hostname
[13:42] <Kardoso> ganes, ok, thanks but i started from releases.ubuntu.com
[13:42] <Kardoso> how can i change the host name?
[13:43] <mrxmike> what is a PPA repos?
[13:43] <Pici> !hostname > Kardoso
[13:43] <st3ph> wheres action?
[13:43] <mrxmike> personal repos? :S
[13:43] <mrxmike> !ppa
[13:43] <Kardoso> Pici: thanks
[13:43] <m12> hello
[13:44] <rblst> then i misunderstood you, Pirate_Hunter, sorry, i don't think there is such an app
[13:44] <Pirate_Hunter> rblst: np
[13:44] <m12> i am trying to install sun-java6-plugin on 8.04 to fix error with java applet loading in Firefox3, but it says that package is referd to by another package, can someone help resolve this ?
[13:45] <Kardoso> ill brb
[13:46] <argento> m12, you cant install it with synaptic?
[13:46] <m12> agento, i dont have idea what other package is that ?
[13:47] <argento> system administration synaptic
[13:47] <m12> argento, i was refering to sun-java6-plugin package
[13:47] <overridex> is there a newer/easier way to configure extra mouse buttons besides the old imwheel tricks?
[13:47] <ushimitsudoki> overridex: check out btnx i like it
[13:48] <argento> m12, im asking if you cant install it...
[13:48] <m12> argento : Package sun-java6-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[13:49] <jrib> m12: what is the output of 'uname -m'?
[13:49] <argento> m12, sudo update-alternatives --config java   what are the options?
[13:49] <m12> jrib: x86_64
[13:49] <yell0w> hey guys what's the default password for the live cd ?
[13:49] <dns53> none
[13:49] <m12> argento , 1 min
[13:50] <dns53> yell0w i mean a blank password, press enter
[13:50] <m12> argento : There is only 1 program which provides java
[13:50] <m12> (/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java). Nothing to configure.
[13:50] <jrib> m12: sun does not provide a 64bit plugin.  Either use some open java or install a 32bit firefox with plugins
[13:50] <jrib> !java > m12
[13:50] <jrib> !flash64 > m12
[13:51] <argento> m12, jrib did it
[13:51] <m12> jrib:  tnx i try it out
[13:51] <scucci> How do I go about refreshing my preview icons for movie files?
[13:51] <overridex> ushimitsudoki: is that in the normal repos or do I need to add one?
[13:51] <jrib> scucci: tried hitting reload in nautilus?
[13:52] <ushimitsudoki> overridex: i think when i installed it i got a deb from the web site (http://www.ollisalonen.com/btnx/)....it's been a while
[13:52] <scucci> Yeah, does nothing. Just reloads the existing icons and the ones it didn't make a preview of because I was still downloading them.
[13:52] <SPEED_VIRUS> Привет всем!
[13:52] <scucci> Just shows the little 'film reel' icon.
[13:53] <SPEED_VIRUS> есть кто нибудь?
[13:53] <jrib> scucci: rm -rf ~/.thumbnails/fail/ then hit reload do any better?
[13:53] <jrib> !ru | SPEED_VIRUS
[13:53] <scucci> Well... I'll be damned. lol
[13:53] <scucci> Yeah, that worked... I'm retarded. Thank you.
[13:54] <jrib> scucci: well it's not an obvious thing to do :)
[13:54] <jono> kelemengabor: ping
[13:54] <kelemengabor> jono: pong
[13:54] <scucci> Yeah, but I should've looked through my hidden folders to see if anything looked like it could've worked...
[13:55] <scucci> If I had seen a folder names ".thumbnails"... probably would'a figured that one out.
[13:55] <jrib> scucci: well you could checkout things like freedesktop.org for the thumbnail spec
[13:55] <scucci> Thank you again, that's been bugging me for a while.
[13:55] <overridex> ushimitsudoki: thanks for the help :)
[13:56] <ushimitsudoki> overridex: sure thing...good luck
[13:57] <scucci> I tried looking through a few pages, but couldn't really find anything... then again, it is early here and I did just wake up a little bit ago, so there's a better than average chance that I just looked over it in my morning fog.
[13:58] <versus> hi, I use the 173.14.12 nvidia driver with ubuntu hardy on a dell vostro 1500 and want to connect it to a HP w2408h the driver seems to see the display but I have no idea how to tell him to use it
[14:00] <edistar_> hi, the graphical user and groups tool shows me different groups than are written in /etc/groups, is there any way to check from where the gui tool takes its group file?
[14:01] <arvind_khadri> edistar_, gksu users-admin
[14:01] <jrib> edistar_: it probably just recognizes certain groups as special and then has a tab with checkboxes for enabling those groups.  Like "admin" is "Allow user to be an administrator" or something similar.  You'd have to check the source
[14:01] <arvind_khadri> edistar_, run that on a terminal
[14:02] <versus> !de
[14:03] <killfile> hi, i'm looking for some help configuring a 3M microtouch touchscreen under Ubuntu 7.10
[14:03] <killfile> can anyone offer any advice, or point me in the direction of anyone who could help?
[14:04] <doojin> hello
[14:04] <doojin> I have xnote e300
[14:04] <doojin> and ubuntu 4.08 and 4.10 don't support e300 built-in keyboard
[14:04] <doojin> what happend?
[14:04] <killfile> what i've been able to locate via google hasn't worked
[14:04] <doojin> xnote e300 laptop
[14:04] <jrib> doojin: don't use enter to break up your thoughts as it makes it harder to follow what you are saying
[14:04] <lng> hi! how may i fix this error: 'Could not download all repository indexes', Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found, Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[14:04] <dns53> killfile i think drivers are avalable in xorg, you may need to google it
[14:04] <edistar_> arvind_khadri: I get a nice error: http://nopaste.org/p/azbusvSgab
[14:04] <killfile> dns53: xorg comes with drivers, but they're broken
[14:05] <jrib> lng: edgy is no longer supported.  You need to upgrade
[14:05] <arvind_khadri> lng, egdy isnt supported anymore
[14:05] <lng> jrib: well, how may i do it?
[14:05] <arvind_khadri> lng, sudo apt-get distro-upgrade
[14:06] <lng> arvind_khadri: tnx
[14:06] <Jafet> s/ro//
[14:06] <dns53> killfile you could try intrepid or go down a version to fusion
[14:06] <lng> arvind_khadri: does it upgrade kernel?
[14:06] <jrib> lng: at this point you would need to do 6.10 -> 7.04 -> 7.10 -> 8.04 to get the latest stable release.  It is probably a lot easier to just backup and install a fresh copy of 8.04.  What arvind_khadri said will not work
[14:07] <killfile> dns53: it's a general X/linux issue rather than ubuntu-specific
[14:07] <arvind_khadri> edistar_, well no idea...seems like you dont have permission
[14:07] <arvind_khadri> lng, jrib is correct...its better to do a fresh install ...
[14:07] <lng> jrib: how do i get it?
[14:07] <arvind_khadri> jrib, wasnt there a supported path from edgy to hardy?
[14:08] <killfile> dns53: we've tried 6.10, 7.04 and 7.10
[14:08] <arvind_khadri> !torrents | lng
[14:08] <edistar_> arvind_khadri: I'll investigate, just thought it might a known issue
[14:08] <jrib> arvind_khadri: there is, but it involves 3 upgrades.  It would be faster to just reinstall imo
[14:08] <sorsis> if i put flash videos in fullscreen i see a laggy video. why so? in windows i have no prblems.
[14:08] <Jafet> arvind_khadri, might destabilize stuff, with such a long upgrade chain...
[14:08] <killfile> dns53: along with fedora, redhat, suse, etc - same problem in all distros
[14:08] <dns53> killfile well you could compile your own xorg, they have released a new version today
[14:08] <arvind_khadri> Jafet, jrib, oh ...iirc i had read somewhere that you can directly from edgy to hardy
[14:09] <lng> arvind_khadri: how do i check which version i have?
[14:09] <jrib> arvind_khadri: no, that's dapper to hardy
[14:09] <DJones> !version | lng
[14:09] <arvind_khadri> lng, lsb_release -a
[14:09] <jrib> arvind_khadri: because they are both LTS releases
[14:09] <dns53> killfile the problem could possibly be in the hardware not the drivers
[14:09] <bullgard4> I am calling System > Administration > 'Synaptic Package Manager' and obtain: "Error when running /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root. Could not copy the X authorization file." How to get rid of this error message?
[14:09] <arvind_khadri> jrib, i always confuse between the versions.... sorry :S
[14:10] <lng> arvind_khadri:  i got hardy
[14:10] <lng> arvind_khadri:  Ubuntu 8.04.1
[14:10] <killfile> dns53: the hardware works fine in windows :)
[14:10] <Jafet> lng, as a CD?
[14:10] <arvind_khadri> lng, then what is that edgy repo doing in your sources.list?
[14:10] <sorsis> why fullscreen flash videos are laggy? do other ppl have same problems?
[14:10] <lng> Jafet: as current sys
[14:10] <jrib> lng: then you have an edgy sources.list... pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:11] <lng> arvind_khadri: dunno
[14:11] <killfile> dns53: the issue is rather that the drivers in X expect the position reported by the touchscreen to be relative to the resolution to the screen, and the touchscreen provides absolute co-ordinates
[14:11] <lng> jrib: http://pastebin.com/f23598506
[14:12] <jrib> lng: get rid of the last two lines and run 'sudo apt-get update'
[14:12] <lng> jrib: remove those two last lines?
[14:12] <lng> ))
[14:12] <No1_Gentoo_user> hi
[14:12] <dns53> killfile well i believe the new xorg has the multi pointer x changes which may have changed some of the touch screen stuff
[14:12] <jekyll> ciaooo
[14:12] <riverbed> hi all
[14:13] <jekyll> !addon
[14:13] <No1_Gentoo_user> hi
[14:13] <jrib> lng: yep.  You might want to grab the hardy line for winehq from their site
[14:13] <fr500> are msn servers broken or is it just me?
[14:13] <Nutzebahn> Hello. Could someone recommend a firewall other than firestarter for Ubuntu?
[14:13] <lng> jrib: winehq?
[14:13] <Nutzebahn> fr500: I can't connect to MSN either.
[14:14] <hullap> Nutzebahn, ucf
[14:14] <jrib> lng: winehq.org it's the wine site
[14:14] <hullap> err
[14:14] <hullap> ufw
[14:14] <lng> jrib: why?
[14:14] <ushimitsudoki> killfile: this is off-topic but did you look at: http://wearables.unisa.edu.au/mpx/ ?
[14:14] <jrib> lng: because you had it before.  It's up to you if you want it again
[14:15] <lng> jrib: i don't need that anymore. thanx!
[14:15] <Nutzebahn> Something with a GUI?
[14:15] <jrib> lng: k
[14:15] <jrib> Nutzebahn: be more specific?
[14:15] <dns53> ushimitsudoki killfile this has been merged upstream, and i think the mpx guy was writing some of the driers for it
[14:15] <Nutzebahn> I would like a firewall other than Firestarter.
[14:15] <ushimitsudoki> dns53: oh cool i didn't know that
[14:16] <Nutzebahn> ?
[14:16] <killfile> well, we're looking at the new X
[14:16] <hullap> Nutzebahn, bulldog
[14:16] <Jafet> Nutzebahn, ufw?
[14:16] <riverbed> i'm planning to switch from suse to ubuntu
[14:16] <hullap> Nutzebahn, iptables?
[14:16] <riverbed> had enough of this damn puse, so much bloat
[14:17] <riverbed> i hate it
[14:17] <No1_Gentoo_user> use gentoo
[14:17] <ksbalaji> how to form rules in ufw?
[14:17] <jrib> ksbalaji: man page has a decent intro with examples, try 'man ufw'
[14:17] <nnull> ive got a computer with free 3 partitions free, 1 990 meg, 2 990 meg, 3 3gig... can i use this for ubuntu?
[14:17] <Nutzebahn> Something with a GUI.
[14:17] <riverbed> lol no i am not that expert and i heard gentoo is like a lot of work
[14:17] <ksbalaji> jrib, thanks
[14:17] <jrib> Nutzebahn: ask everything on one line...
[14:17] <No1_Gentoo_user> riverbed: noo, u can compile it in half a day
[14:18] <ksbalaji> jrib, do we have ufw GUI?
[14:18] <riverbed> No1_Gentoo_user: compile? :O
[14:18] <riverbed> that is a scary word for me
[14:18] <nnull> jrib, it says allow tcp/port but what about if u want to change outbound traffic..
[14:18] <Jafet> nnull, depends on how fussy you are with the resulting condition of the filesystems, naturally.
[14:18] <inflex> hi, I've got an X800 GTO card (ATi) and X will constantly crash after a few minutes of use (esp if I'm running OpenOffice) but the mouse is still operational and I can still SSH into the box
[14:18] <jrib> ksbalaji: not that I know of.  ufw is just a (friendlier) frontend for iptables anyway
[14:18] <No1_Gentoo_user> riverbed: you noob?
[14:18] <riverbed> No1_Gentoo_user: yes
[14:18] <jrib> nnull: what?
[14:18] <ksbalaji> jrib, thanks and bye!
[14:19] <inflex> and now X is taking up 97.4% CPU
[14:19] <inflex> (Xorg)
[14:19] <riverbed> No1_Gentoo_user: is gentoo better than ubuntu?
[14:19] <jrib> No1_Gentoo_user: this channel is for ubuntu support, discuss the (dis)merits of gentoo in #ubuntu-offtopic please :)
[14:19] <dashavoo> I recompiled my kernel (the debian way) because I needed a patch, but I am not sure how to recompile linux-ubuntu-modules against it, can somebody point me in the right direction please?
[14:19] <olskolirc> how do I find that default white panel bar that comes with kde please?  what path is it in?
[14:19] <nnull> like alllow tcp/80 would open up the port for inbound port 80, what about opening/closing ports for outbound traffic... liek you can do in firestarter (or almost do, i just uninstalled it)
[14:19] <nnull> jrib, ^^
[14:19] <No1_Gentoo_user> riverbed: :-/
[14:20] <No1_Gentoo_user> jr:-\
[14:20] <No1_Gentoo_user> jrib: :-\
[14:20] <No1_Gentoo_user> jrib: dismerits?
[14:20] <nnull> ive got a computer with free 3 partitions free, 1 990 meg, 2 990 meg, 3 3gig... can i use this for ubuntu?
[14:20] <remoteCTR1> does actually anybody do the effort to test a package if it is even working beore that is put into the distribution??
[14:20] <jrib> No1_Gentoo_user: #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[14:21] <Jafet> remoteCTR1, I suppose distributors make reasonable effort.
[14:21] <Jafet> remoteCTR1, I expect the main reason defective software ships is because the coders are lazy, not the testers.
[14:21] <remoteCTR1> Jafet:  in that case i wonder how that is possible that installing xen completely rendes the server unbootable due to TWO errors in scrpts
[14:21] <Nutzebahn> I want a replacement because Firestarter keeps loading on startup and I don't want it to.
[14:22] <Jafet> Nutzebahn, ... that is the only main problem you're having?
[14:22] <error404notfound> is there any software that can do what vmware workstation/server does and can play vmware vmx as well? (does VB run vmx as well? )
[14:22] <remoteCTR1> Jafet: actually it is even three if i count in that the network bridge is not being setup correctly
[14:22] <nnull> ive got a computer with free 3 partitions free, 1 990 meg, 2 990 meg, 3 3gig... can i use this for ubuntu?
[14:22] <Jafet> nnull, have you tried?
[14:22] <remoteCTR1> really incredible
[14:23] <nnull> im not gunna try install something if its gunna try copy and theres not enough space...
[14:23] <Jafet> remoteCTR1, software has sucked since 1990, deal with it.
[14:23] <Nutzebahn> Yes, Jafet.
[14:23] <nnull> just asking how much does ubuntu install?
[14:23] <Jafet> nnull, probably less than 2 GB for the desktop version.
[14:23] <Jafet> !size
[14:23] <remoteCTR1> Jafet: i wonder how it is possible to put a software into a distro that can under no circumstances work
[14:24] <nnull> Jafet, well the root partition is 3 gig.. ive got a gig for swap and a gig for a user partition.. you think this will be ok?
[14:24] <remoteCTR1> id say not software but qa sucks
[14:24] <DJones> !requirements | nnull
[14:24] <Jafet> Nutzebahn, well you just need to stop it from being started at boot then. It might be in your System > Prefs > Sessions, which makes things easy.
[14:24] <nnull> i actually have the xubuntu iso mmm
[14:24] <olskolirc> how do I find that default white panel bar that comes with kde please?  what path is it in?
[14:24] <ushimitsudoki> nnull: i have the CD in front of me for 8.04 and it says "at least 4GB of disk space available for installation". I bet you could squeeze it in much less, but there it is official-like
[14:25] <nnull> ushimitsudoki, :x
[14:26] <Xantor> Hey ! I need some help in turning of HDMI-soundcard in Ubutu or any other way to get my Realtek HD audio to work. It seems the "normal" soundcard aint in use. using a laptop asus m51ta - Realtek HD audio alc663
[14:26] <Jafet> remoteCTR1, well, it doesn't work where you are, but it might have been successfully tested on the packagers' machines.
[14:27] <remoteCTR1> Jafet: i seriously doubt that due to the nature of the nature of the errors in the scripts
[14:28] <Jafet> Software interact in mysterious ways.
[14:28] <Jafet> If tasked with writing artificial intelligence, Microsoft would write Skynet and Linux would turn out a Matrix.
[14:28] <Nutzebahn> I already did that, Jafet.
[14:29] <nnull> mmm this is bad, my computer is good enough but doesnt have enough space
[14:29] <Jafet> Nutzebahn, as in, firestarter is in the session start list, you unchecked it, and it's still starting regardless?
[14:29] <Jafet> nnull, obtain a larger hard disk?
[14:29] <nnull> Jafet, cant :x
[14:30] <ushimitsudoki> nnull: i bet you can squeeze it on there (or you could try the server install and then add packages) ... why not try it and see? it might make a good forum or blog post
[14:30] <kibibyte> how to install with apt-get localfile.deb ?
[14:30] <Nutzebahn> Yes.
[14:30] <Nutzebahn> I remove it from the list.
[14:30] <kibibyte> Ja wohl
[14:30] <arvind_khadri> kibibyte, use dpkg
[14:31] <kibibyte> arvind_khadri, but dpkg doesnt resolve dependicies
[14:31] <kibibyte> :
[14:31] <kibibyte> :/
[14:31] <Nutzebahn> Yes, Jafet.
[14:31] <bombshelter13> what's the stuff in /var/lib/dpkg/info?
[14:31] <javierg> Would anyone know what I can't click on VNC option in the drop down box for Terminal Server Client?
[14:31] <ushimitsudoki> kibibyte: can't you just click on it and the GUI package app open up? that works for me if i understand what you are trying
[14:31] <arvind_khadri> kibibyte, you will have to resolve them
[14:31] <ushimitsudoki> javierg: you have to install a vnc program first like tightvnc if i remember right
[14:32] <arvind_khadri> kibibyte, use gdebi to look up the dependencies
[14:32] <javierg> ushimitsudoki, Oh ok, I thought it came defaulted. Thanks.
[14:32] <m12> jrib: tried install both versions of java , used java-6-openjdk and java-6-sun with icedtea-gcjwebplugin and without and still cant load java applet
[14:32] <RickZilla> I'm downloading ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso, and trying to create an image of it to cd....I've done this about 4x now, and keep running into disk errors...is it common to have to attempt a download multiple times before you get it right?  I've even tried a different mirror each time...thanks in advance for your help
[14:32] <lapoisse> hi
[14:33] <nnull> ushimitsudoki, im thinking the install cannot be 4/8 gig as they proclaim as the iso is only 700 meg?
[14:33] <Jafet> nnull, http://apina.biz/6392
[14:33] <lapoisse> I have some problems with my graphic cards
[14:33] <Jafet> It also depends on what you install, of course.
[14:33] <DJones> RickZilla: What speed are you burning the image at, the normal recommendation is to burn slowly at 4x as it reduces the chance of errors, you can also check the md5sum before you burn to make sure the image isn't corrupt first
[14:34] <ushimitsudoki> nnull: compression? I'm only reading the CD text - plus you will be downloading stuff too. Still, I would try it with 3G
[14:34] <RickZilla> wait...now I think it's working...
[14:34] <Xantor> Hey ! I need some help in turning of HDMI-soundcard in Ubutu or any other way to get my Realtek HD audio to work. It seems the "normal" soundcard aint in use. using a laptop asus m51ta - Realtek HD audio alc663
[14:34] <m12> what is problem with java applets in firefox ? i cant load it with openjdk and with sun java, any tips how to fix this ?
[14:34] <RickZilla> DJones:  max speed, I'll try slower next time...did the md5sum and found lots of errors the first few times
[14:34] <Jafet> Nutzebahn, then you'll have to look for it in the startup scripts themselves, or wherever there are...
[14:35] <ushimitsudoki> Xantor: do you mean you have two sound cards and you want to turn off one (like the built in one on the mobo)?
[14:35] <lapoisse> I can t install the Nvidia proprietary drivers
[14:35] <DJones> RickZilla: When you get an iso without md5 errors, burn at a slow speed, that should solve the problem
[14:35] <Xantor> I have the HDMI soundcard and the normal so to say
[14:35] <nnull> ushimitsudoki, do you think i should merge the swap with the 3gig part and run no swap?
[14:35] <ushimitsudoki> nnull: how much RAM do you have there?
[14:35] <RickZilla> DJones, thanks for the advice...looks like I may actually have a working copy of Ubuntu now!
[14:35] <nnull> 512ddr1
[14:35] <ushimitsudoki> Is it a laptop or desktop?
[14:35] <nnull> desktop
[14:35] <Xantor> Laptop Asus
[14:35] <DJones> RickZilla: Good look with the install
[14:36] <ushimitsudoki> nnull: then 512 as a swap will be enough
[14:36] <nnull> ahh, someone told me to use double your ram as swap, why was that do you think?
[14:36] <bizkut_> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 31326 package `alsa-utils':
[14:36] <bizkut_>  `Depends' field, invalid package name `module/init-tools': character `/' not allowed (only letters, digits and characters `-+._')
[14:36] <bizkut_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[14:36] <Jafet> nnull, those are rules of thumb.
[14:36] <nnull> im currently not even using swap atm
[14:37] <ushimitsudoki> nnull: i don't know why, double the ram seems generous to me, but that's just my opinion
[14:37] <nnull> so do i need a user partition?
[14:37] <RickZilla> Woo hoo!  I'm on my way to being a Ubuntu user!
[14:37] <snakel_> hi .. i've a server running hardy with xen and as soon as some I/O is generated (e.g. dd) or the system has a bit of load, dmesg shows "BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00100100"
[14:37] <ushimitsudoki> nnull: i like to have /home on a separate partition, but it is not required
[14:38] <ushimitsudoki> nnull: since you have limited size, you might want to forgo that separation ... just a thought
[14:38] <nnull> ushimitsudoki, any particular reason you prefer that mate?
[14:38] <ushimitsudoki> nnull: because I have huge ass harddrives and can roll like that :)
[14:38] <snakel_> I found a few bug reports which say to have a look at the newer 2.6.27 kernel of intrepid, but I can not find a xen-version of this kernel.
[14:38] <Xantor> Must one go turn of soundcards and such the texty way or is there a graphic way to do it ? =P
[14:39] <nnull> this pc is setup like that also, but im i dont even know why i do it heh
[14:39] <nnull> ushimitsudoki, ^
[14:39] <remoteCTR1> !nfs
[14:39] <ushimitsudoki> Xantor: you probably need to figure out what driver is loading for the built in card, remove it and the blacklist it. that is what i did because i use an external sound card
[14:40] <bizkut_> hai
[14:41] <Xantor> Ahh ok =P Thing is tho.. ive got not idea of how to do it.. not by typing could prolly do it if i were able to click around
[14:41] <dashavoo> How do I compile linux-ubuntu-modules against my kernel?
[14:42] <HymnToLife> why do you want to ?
[14:42] <HymnToLife> sounds like a waste of space to me, surely you don't need _all_ of them
[14:42] <Ockonal> hi
[14:43] <Ockonal> Can u help me with compiz? When i resize the windows my comp is slowly
[14:43] <ushimitsudoki> Xantor: no clicking around for this i'm afraid. Step one is to see what modules are loaded. Try "cat /proc/asound/modules" for that, and see if you can not determine which one is for the sound card you want to disable. Step two is to blacklist that driver in "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist". Step 3 is edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base to load the proper driver. Step 3 may not be necessary. That's the basic outline i would say
[14:43] <jrib> !away > _UsUrPeR_
[14:44] <Xantor> Cool thx
[14:44] <Xantor> ill try to get it to work .. =)
[14:44] <matteo_> Hi all!!! With 248 MB of ram whic version of ubuntu is good? thx alot
[14:44] <jrib> matteo_: I'd go with xubuntu
[14:45] <dashavoo> HymnToLife, was that question in response to me? If so because I recompiled my kernel (I needed a patch) but now I don't have some of the modules I need because they are usually contained in that package.
[14:45] <HymnToLife> dashavoo: find out the module you need and compile it then ;) no need to compile all of them
[14:47] <dashavoo> HymnToLife, how should I compile them then? Using module-assistant?
[14:47] <HymnToLife> maybe
[14:47] <HymnToLife> m-a is more of a hassle than not; imo
[14:48] <HymnToLife> just grab the source, make, make install
[14:49] <lapoisse> #nvidia
[14:49] <HymnToLife> fail
[14:49] <HymnToLife> very wel-chosen nick; too
[14:49] <HymnToLife> well*
[14:50] <bullgard4> I am calling System > Administration > 'Synaptic Package Manager' and obtain: "Error when running /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root. Could not copy the X authorization file." How to get rid of this error message?
[14:52] <_UsUrPeR_> jrib: wat
[14:52] <IntangibleLiquid> help, I installed smbsf to get my files from my sister's xp box. I changed the Domain to MSHOME in Network and now get-apt says :unable to resolve host .... What should I do?
[14:52] <HymnToLife> _UsUrPeR_: read the pm from ubottu
[14:53] <HymnToLife> IntangibleLiquid: you probably messed up your DNS configuration somewhere along the way
[14:53] <_UsUrPeR_> I don't understand. Is there a giant message that appears that I don't see pertaining to changing usernames?
[14:53] <HymnToLife> !away
[14:53] <HymnToLife> there
[14:54] <IntangibleLiquid> HymnToLife: 1. I installed smbfs, 2. I changed the Domain name to MSHOME. That's all. Now what should I do to fix it?
[14:54] <Ockonal> Hi, can you tell me, how to get sound in Pidgin?
[14:54] <_UsUrPeR_> huh
[14:55] <jrib> _UsUrPeR_: don't change your name to userper_away when you are away, just use   /away <reason>   to indicate you are away
[14:55] <HymnToLife> IntangibleLiquid: go back to the network settings and fix your DNS servers
[14:55] <HymnToLife> you shouldn't change the domain name, by the way, this is not what you want
[14:55] <Ad0> is there some service in ubuntu that respawns processes with dirty exits ?
[14:56] <IntangibleLiquid> HymnToLife: so is it safe for me to delete the domain, as it was blank last time. the current DNS server is the gateway's address. How do I fix the DNS server?
[14:57] <HymnToLife> IntangibleLiquid: if it's your gateway address, then it's probably good
[14:57] <HymnToLife> hmm, do you also get an "unresolvable host" when trying to ping a website?
[14:59] <IntangibleLiquid> HymnToLife: no, I'm still able to access websites and irc. apt-get is the only one that doesn't work so far
[14:59] <Tower_Joo> hello,all
[15:00] <Ockonal> Tower_Joo: hi
[15:00] <HymnToLife> IntangibleLiquid: then it's most likely a problem with the mirror you're using
[15:01] <Tower_Joo> This is my first time to use irc.
[15:01] <IntangibleLiquid> HymnToLife: the thing is, I was able to install smbfs before I changed the domain.   My support care is aimed to let him know why he should switch to GNU/Linux distribution, intended to be used by smart people.
[15:05] <Ockonal> jrib: ;)
[15:05] <phece> right now i'm dual booting hardy and xp. i keep all of my files on the xp partition, but i was thinking of switching to ubuntu only
[15:05] <jrib> bad_image, Ockonal: in #ubuntu-offtopic you may discuss the merits of other distros vs ubuntu
[15:05] <phece> would that speed things up at all if it doesn't have to read from another partition? or would it have no effect?
[15:05] <Ockonal> I think, that all distributions of linux good
[15:05] <phece> also, is it easy to do? to expand a partition?
[15:05] <Ockonal> jrib: sorry
[15:05] <bad_image> You can do more, with Gentoo GNU/Linux. Due to increased performance, it's also possible to play 3d fps games, such as Quake4 SMOOTHLY
[15:05] <IntangibleLiquid> amenado: changed it. Still get the same error mess
[15:06] <Ockonal> bad_image: to private?
[15:07] <IntangibleLiquid> This is a fresh and complete reinstall. I wondered how i could mess it up in less than 3 minutes. :(
[15:07] <ben34> hi is there a way i can wireless sync my phones pictures with bluetooth automatically, it sees it as obex://[00:1F:45:F6:F3:30]/Phone%20memory/Camera%20album/100MSDCF
[15:08] <bad_image> Ockonal, in case you daily suffer from some annoying features, for example in Firefox, Gentoo GNU/Linux lets you to choose the USE flags, and thus it compiles new binary based on your requirements.
[15:08] <bad_image> Ockonal, join #gentoo
[15:08] <bert1> hi
[15:08] <IntangibleLiquid> Also, I'm able to get files from the Inspiron 1420 via my router dsl-2640t
[15:09] <bert1> does any know if you can close xchat to the notification area??? (so it doesnt show in the task bar, but its still running with an icon in the systray)
[15:09] <bert1> ?
[15:09] <amenado> IntangibleLiquid-> what error mess? what is the exact error?
[15:10] <IntangibleLiquid> amenado: unable to resolve host ...
[15:10] <amenado> IntangibleLiquid-> what does your /etc/hosts looks like? paste in pastebin
[15:10] <ben34> bert1, press x
[15:10] <deltaray> Is there a package for the dos2unix command?  I can't find dos2unix in the normal apt repositories.
[15:10] <jrib> bert1: right click on the xchat icon in the notification area, and press "hide"
[15:10] <IntangibleLiquid> amenado: miraculous! I deleted the domain, changed the host to the previous one. It's back now. It's working!
[15:10] <ben34> then minimize to system tray
[15:10] <jrib> deltaray: tofrodos
[15:11] <amenado> IntangibleLiquid-> that can do it
[15:11] <deltaray> jrib, That's an intuitive name.
[15:11] <IntangibleLiquid> amenado: cool, thanks
[15:11] <ben34> bert1, you could not figure that out?
[15:11] <amenado> IntangibleLiquid-> you're welcome
[15:11] <rconan> the ubuntu livecd doesn't recognise the drive on my new motherboard... the controller is the Intel ICH10
[15:11] <IntangibleLiquid> I'm heading for Barcamp Phom Penh next week, anyone going there by chance?
[15:11] <jrib> deltaray: heh, apt-cache search dos2unix  would return it though
[15:12] <jrib> IntangibleLiquid: we like to keep this channel dedicated to ubuntu support only since it is so busy.  Mind moving your discussion over to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[15:12] <IntangibleLiquid> ok :)
[15:13] <bert1> thanks jrib, clicking the X just closes the application completely... the "hide" function is what i was looking... thanks
[15:13] <ben34> anyone know how to sync obex device
[15:14] <bert1> ben34, that doesnt work, it closes xchat down
[15:14] <ben34> oh it does for me
[15:14] <jrib> bert1: by default it asks, but there is a checkbox to not ask anymore.  You can probably make it ask again in preferences
[15:15] <bert1> ok jrib, thanks for your help dude =)
[15:15] <ben34> bert1, http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotquitxchatou2.png
[15:15] <deltaray> jrib, thanks, didn't know about that command.
[15:16] <jrib> !apt > deltaray
[15:18] <Cosmo-san> guys, is there a commandline term that will display System Resources or System Performance in Ubuntu?  I know this sounds stupid, but supposedly we are supposed to display this info in a C++ program...
[15:18] <ketk_> anybody knows what's the compiz plugin that minimize all the windows to show desktop when the mouse moves to a corner?
[15:18] <amenado> Cosmo-san-> look around the /proc  where most of these stuff is stored
[15:19] <jrib> Cosmo-san: see how 'ps' and 'top' work
[15:19] <jrib> !source > Cosmo-san
[15:19] <Cosmo-san> is proc the temporary folder in memory?
[15:20] <amenado> Cosmo-san-> its a psuedo file system yes
[15:21] <HymnToLife> amenado: pseudo != temporary
[15:22] <HymnToLife> files in a temporary filesystem are stored in RAM, files in a pseudo file system are not stored anywhere
[15:22] <HymnToLife> they are dynamically generated by the kernel when you try to access them
[15:23] <amenado> they have to be stored somewhere, and most likely in ram, so psuedo file system do get stored but may be temporarily
[15:24] <HymnToLife> amenado: no, they are not stored, they don't even exist
[15:24] <Cosmo-san> how do I know what header file to include for these commands?  There usually isn't a simple header file I can see in the man pages
[15:24] <sooki> okay, so i installed windows to a second drive and it of course wiped the mbr and i've been trying to restore grub so i can get a dual boot menu, but the tutorials say to do the sudo grub find whatever method
[15:24] <sooki> and when i do that, windows will boot saying there was a bad shut down or something
[15:24] <g33k_gir1> is there a programme I can use to batch process a bunch of photos. I need to resize them from, like super high res 5 bazillion pixels wide, to something more webfriendly. and theres tons of them. and I need to do it fast
[15:24] <sooki> i don't get a grub menu
[15:25] <soundray> sooki: are you following the RecoveringUbuntu... instructions?
[15:25] <soundray> !grub | sooki
[15:25] <HymnToLife> or rather, they exist but they have no "physical" content
[15:26] <olskolirc> how do I find that default white panel bar that comes with kde please?  what path is it in?
[15:26] <sooki> that's the method i used
[15:26] <sooki> but i don't get a menu, it just boots straight to windows
[15:27] <sooki> and windows knows something's been messed with so it goes to the "do you want to boot in safe mode?" screen
[15:27] <IntangibleLiquid> what's the command to unload a module? opposite of modprobe
[15:27] <Pici> IntangibleLiquid: rmmod
[15:27] <dbrewer_rjr> good morning chatterheads. I need to install java on my hardy lamps server. All the reading I am doing online says it is broken, needs to be patched, do this, do that. I am completely confused. What is the correct path as of today?
[15:28] <mgolisch> java is broken?
[15:28] <soundray> sooki: you're trying to boot the live CD, but it boots into Windows?
[15:28] <mgolisch> it works great on my hardy desktop
[15:28] <dbrewer_rjr> it's been fixed?
[15:28] <soundray> !java | dbrewer_rjr
[15:29] <amenado> dbrewer_rjr-> which java ?
[15:29] <dbrewer_rjr> java 6
[15:29] <bullgard4> I am calling System > Administration > 'Synaptic Package Manager' and obtain: "Error when running /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root. Could not copy the X authorization file." How to get rid of this error message?
[15:29] <IntangibleLiquid> I guess I should give up with ndiswrapper already :(
[15:29] <amenado> dbrewer_rjr-> go ahead and install the sun java 6 its working
[15:30] <soundray> bullgard4: have you done anything to your /tmp directory setup?
[15:30] <sooki> i have 2 drives, the original is a ubuntu install, i added my old second drive which is an ntfs that i installed windows to, i'm trying to get my grub back so i can choose which i want to boot into
[15:30] <dbrewer_rjr> install from sun or is there an apt-get install?
[15:30] <bullgard4> soundray: No.
[15:30] <soundray> sooki: the instructions require that you boot the live CD. Have you tried that?
[15:30] <sooki> i'm currently stuck on a live cd cause the windows is broken
[15:30] <dbrewer_rjr> amenado:install from sun or is there an apt-get install?
[15:31] <sooki> i only tried the quick start method, i'm going to try the second
[15:31] <marcules> "Mahlzeit" :p
[15:31] <soundray> sooki: hold on...
[15:31] <netsurf3> test
[15:31] <ubuntu_> test
[15:31] <soundray> sooki: what happens when you run the find command?
[15:31] <soundray> netsurf3, ubuntu_: failed
[15:31] <sooki> it returns hd(0,0) or whatever the format was
[15:32] <sooki> but it was 0,0 i can tell you
[15:32] <soundray> bullgard4: what do you get from a "ls -l ~/.Xauthority"
[15:32] <solexious> [Q] how can I unmerge mailx and emerge nails? All google gives me is gentu not ubuntu
[15:33] <soundray> sooki: so, did you then enter "root (hd0,0)" as the instructions suggest?
[15:33] <amenado> dbrewer_rjr-> for me, i'd go directly to sun but if you dont know what to do, use the repository..per whats pasted to you
[15:33] <sooki> yep, i followed the quick way perfectly
[15:33] <soundray> sooki: and did you get an error message?
[15:34] <bullgard4> soundray: I obtain -rw------- 1 root root 0 2008-09-07 17:54 /home/detlef/.Xauthority
[15:34] <sooki> nope, it said ok
[15:34] <IntangibleLiquid> is it possible to test OO 3.0 in Hardy now?
[15:34] <dbrewer_rjr> amenado: i just looked at the posted link, it gives me the choice of open-jdk or sun. is the sloppy_locks thingy still necessary with either?
[15:34] <Vinconzo> hi
[15:35] <soundray> bullgard4: do a 'sudo chown detlef:detlef ~/.Xauthority'   -- that should fix it.
[15:35] <amenado> dbrewer_rjr-> id go for sun
[15:35] <soundray> bullgard4: and please, in the future, use 'gksudo' rather than 'sudo' to run graphical programs.
[15:35] <dbrewer_rjr> amenado: did you have a problem with libmawt.so?
[15:36] <Vinconzo> i remember there was a game in Windows called Wallstreet Tycoon, simulating the stock-market, where you could buy and sell stockings. is there anything like that in linux?
[15:36] <solstralen> solexious> You're using apt-get and not emerge in ubuntu... right?
[15:36] <amenado> dbrewer_rjr-> i dont recall, but the tutorial tips i think mentioned about modifying that, but then i dont recall if it was for fedora or for ubuntu
[15:36] <soundray> sooki: is it possible that the Windows disk somehow becomes the first BIOS disk, so you're actually booting from what you thought is the second disk?
[15:36] <dirkgently> x
[15:36] <sooki> i'm trying the "overwriting the windows bootloader" method, will that get me to what i need?
[15:36] <bullgard4> soundray: Please define "graphical programs".
[15:36] <soundray> bullgard4: those that create an X window, rather than running inside the terminal.
[15:37] <sooki> i was just thinking that, actually, how can i check the boot order?
[15:37] <dbrewer_rjr> amenado: thanks
[15:37] <bullgard4> soundray: Thank you.
[15:37] <sooki> maybe the second older drive is set to master, would that effect it?
[15:37] <soundray> !gksu | bullgard4
[15:37] <amenado> dbrewer_rjr-> you're welcome
[15:37] <linkinxp> hello how can i play safe with changing modules? like iwl3945 to ipwraw???? is there any tool??
[15:38] <solexious> solstralen, correct
[15:38] <RediXe>  Radeon X1300 Pro (Single-Head, Y split) trying to get dual-monitor working but struggling. Anyone good in this area have any suggestions? Googled all night and found some guide's but nothing seemed to work. Using Ubuntu Hardy.
[15:38] <solstralen> sudo apt-get install mailx
[15:38] <solstralen> ?
[15:39] <solexious> solstralen, aaa, i must have missunder stood. nails is no more and has been added into mailx. I thought unmerge and emerge were ways of beinging just nails out of mailx
[15:40] <mauro> hi
[15:40] <solexious> solstralen, i.e. to make a standalone of nails
[15:40] <solstralen> emerge is specific to gentoo.. the package manager in ubuntu is synaptic or apt-get
[15:41] <solexious> ok, i get it. Shame, thought i had found a way then
[15:41] <solstralen> great
[15:41] <linkinxp> hello how can i play safe with changing modules? like iwl3945 to ipwraw???? is there any tool??
[15:42] <Pici> linkinxp: What do you mean by safe?
[15:42] <sooki> okay, i'm going to reboot and see if it worked, if it didn't then there's probably something wrong with the order of the drives
[15:42] <RediXe> !X1300
[15:43] <RediXe> !ait
[15:43] <RediXe> !ati
[15:43] <sooki> or master/slave problem
[15:43] <soundray> sooki: sry
[15:43] <KDB9000> Does anyone know how I can remove the link to Network Servers from the places toolbar?
[15:43] <linkinxp> Pici, yea like mmm to have injection in ubuntu i have to change the module of the WIFI to iwpraw , can i use any tool for that?? GUI??
[15:43] <Pici> linkinxp: no, you'd have to use rmmod and modprobe.
[15:43] <lapoisse> Hi, does this channel could response to a problem with modprobe?
[15:43] <sooki> don't be, thanks for the help, i may or may not be back :P
[15:43] <linkinxp> Pici, will rmmod erase it or disable it?
[15:43] <soundray> sooki: do make sure that the jumpers are set correctly. If the second drive isn't set to slave, that may well be causing your trouble.
[15:43] <Pici> linkinxp: disable.
[15:43] <sooki> okay, thank you
[15:44] <Pici> linkinxp: see the manpages for each for more info
[15:44] <linkinxp> Pici, thanks :)
[15:44] <Rindae> how get sound drivers?
[15:45] <soundray> !sound > Rindae
[15:46] <g33k_gir1> wow! phatch is amazing for batch processing photos!
[15:46] <linkinxp> g33k_gir1, indeed!
[15:46] <linkinxp> who is using Intrepid here?
[15:47] <IdleOne> linkinxp: #ubuntu+1
[15:47] <qzio> anyone knows if its possible to use gnome-do or something like that in awesome ?
[15:47] <mrwhippy> hey all,
[15:47] <ketk_> linkinxp, i do
[15:48] <Alim> Салам всем
[15:48] <RediXe>  Radeon X1300 Pro (Single-Head, Y split) trying to get dual-monitor working but struggling. Anyone good in this area have any suggestions? Googled all night and found some guide's but nothing seemed to work. Using Ubuntu Hardy.
[15:48] <mrwhippy> anyone help me out, ive installed vmware server on my ubuntu 8.04 server, and realised i put the wrong location for where the virtual machines are stored can i change this or do i have to run the config again
[15:48] <linkinxp> ketk_, how is it running?
[15:48] <linkinxp> ketk_, faster? . buggy?
[15:49] <Alim> Че тут происходит?
[15:49] <IdleOne> !ru
[15:49] <Alim> Че тут происходит?
[15:50] <Alim> Спс
[15:50] <DJones> !english | Alim
[15:52] <interflop> My laptop can go into Suspend just fine but when I try Waking it from Suspend, it will only properly Wake sometimes.  Sometimes my screen will remain black, and sometimes I will get my login prompt but my mouse and keyboard don't work.  What is wrong with my system?  It has an ATI chipset.
[15:52] <brolly81> any experts with ubuntu or somebody that knows how to use the prog
[15:52] <brolly81> '?
[15:52] <soundray> !anyone | brolly81
[15:52] <Alim> Дау фщтха?
[15:52] <soundray> !en | Alim
[15:53] <soundray> ubottu, no, en =~ s/english/English/
[15:53] <RediXe>  Radeon X1300 Pro (Single-Head, Y split) trying to get dual-monitor working but struggling. Anyone good in this area have any suggestions? Googled all night and found some guide's but nothing seemed to work. Using Ubuntu Hardy.
[15:54] <DJones> soundray: Thats been tried for Alim, which country is "gecos JA" doing a whois, Japan?
[15:54] <danielbw> does anyone else experience trouble with their keyboard keys while using vmware
[15:54] <TXX> Hey
[15:54] <danielbw> it seems like i can't use any modifier keys now and it happens a lot
[15:54] <interflop> My laptop can go into Suspend just fine but when I try Waking it from Suspend, it will only properly Wake sometimes.  Sometimes my screen will remain black, and sometimes I will get my login prompt but my mouse and keyboard don't work.  What is wrong with my system?  It has an ATI chipset.
[15:54] <danielbw> i have to kill x in order for it my keys to work correctly again.
[15:55] <TXX> Anybody on #debian ?
[15:55] <Pici> TXX: Dunno, this is #ubuntu , try asking in #debian
[15:55] <soundray> DJones: Alim does not appear to be speaking Japanese, though
[15:55] <TXX> Pici that is the problem
[15:55] <TXX> i am banned
[15:55] <TXX> dunno why : S
[15:57] <jrib> TXX: try #debian-offtopic to see what you need/can do
[15:57] <TXX> thanks
[15:58] <badserii> Hi. Please tell me if there is an application to prompt for ssh login and password for graphical programs. Thank you in advance
[15:59] <javierg> What wold people suggest would be a really good remote terminal program? NXmachine?
[15:59] <Tophat> need help setting up a vpn and firewall from scratch. any suggestions as for my best way to go about doing this?
[15:59] <soundray> badserii: 'ssh -X user@remotehost xlogo' should work just fine -- or is that not what you mean?
[16:00] <danielbw> yay
[16:00] <danielbw> I fixed it!
[16:00] <danielbw> running setxkbmap fixes the problem
[16:01] <Glady> XAUTHORITY
[16:01] <badserii> soundray: i'm using tortoisehg - a graphical interface for mercurial cvs system
[16:02] <Niek> Hi
[16:02] <badserii> soundray: and can't connect through ssh because there is a missing utility, for login.
[16:02] <kasim> anyone install jeos from a usbdisk?????????
[16:02] <Niek> is there an app in the repos (or not in the repos) that can convert a .sql file to a nice visual Database layout ? so that I can visually with "graphics" can see the database ?
[16:03] <sooki> okay, does the physical location on the ribbon determine first or second drives?
[16:03] <gabriele> salve
[16:03] <soundray> badserii: I've not used that, but perhaps it will help to set up key-based authentication
[16:03] <sooki> or should that matter?
[16:04] <soundray> sooki: no
[16:04] <gabriele> Hi, I have a issue with my acer aspire 5930
[16:04] <sooki> okay, damnit
[16:04] <soundray> sooki: the jumpers determine that. One should be set to master, one to slave. If both are set to the same, you'll have a race condition
[16:04] <sooki> cause the linux drive doesn't have a jumper at all, and i don't know what kind it is to look up jumper settings
[16:04] <badserii> soundray: thank you for your answer
[16:05] <gabriele> soundray
[16:05] <gabriele> can you help me?
[16:05] <sooki> and the second, all the diagrams on it for jumpers show it with 2-3 jumpers, i only have one
[16:05] <gabriele> i have a problem with the wireless of my acer aspire 5930
[16:05] <sooki> and i none of them give a clear "master" "slave" diagram
[16:06] <gabriele> can anybody help me?
[16:07] <gabriele>  i have a problem with the wireless of my acer aspire 5930
[16:07] <gabriele> can anybody help me?
[16:07] <bobbob1016> Is there any where in my logs I can find my home's IP, I'm not home now, so I can't check it locally.
[16:07] <kiki_> ...
[16:08] <gabriele> nobody? :(
[16:08] <kiki_> Nope
[16:08] <bobbob1016> gabriele, Patience...
[16:08] <weird55> can i run mac software on ubuntu?
[16:09] <bobbob1016> gabriele, Not everyone here is 100% focused on this specific channel or anything.
[16:09] <linkinxp> weird55, what for?
[16:09] <linkinxp> ubuntu has a lot of alternatives
[16:09] <weird55> vmware
[16:09] <gabriele> i suggest vmware
[16:10] <danielbw> ubuntu hosting a mac guest on vmware?
[16:10] <weird55> a friend of my, can buy vmware for mac, for a low price
[16:10] <bobbob1016> I'd think it might be possible to run mac software, but not by any means any form of anything probably probably...
[16:10] <bobbob1016> weird55, Get the free VMware from their site, vmware player
[16:11] <gabriele> i m sure there is a lot of alternative open source of mac's application
[16:11] <weird55> i can`t vmwareplayer has no support for 3d
[16:11] <Gnea> weird55: it doesn't?
[16:11] <debCarlos> weird55: there are other virtualization programs, like Virtualbox...
[16:12] <snitko> what could be the reason for a service not to start at boot time, when it starts just fine manually with 'service name start' and has all appropriate symlinks in rcN.d dirs?
[16:12] <weird55> virtualbox has no support for 3d
[16:12] <Gnea> snitko: could be something in /etc/default/ telling it not to
[16:12] <amenado> snitko-> lets say its dependent on others before it can start itself
[16:12] <weird55> 3d support is a must
[16:13] <Gnea> weird55: uhm, 3d works just fine in vmware, not sure about vbox.
[16:13] <bobbob1016> weird55, Why?  Isn't 3D support buggy still?
[16:13] <debCarlos> weird55: oh, ok...
[16:13] <danielbw> yeah vmware has hardware acceleration too
[16:13] <UnionPivo> hi
[16:13] <amenado> weird55-> can you imagine if your base system does not have 3D and now by just running a virtual os you suddenly have a 3D? seems impossible
[16:13] <bobbob1016> Gnea, He was saying it doesn't work in vbox, but does in vmware
[16:13] <snitko> Gnea: what could it be in /etc/default, I'm just not sure. I've just added it, it's 'mongrel_cluster' service.
[16:13] <weird55> Gnea, only the pay version of vmware has support for 3d
[16:13] <Rindae> ubottu: thanks! :D
[16:13] <Gnea> bobbob1016: please read what i said.
[16:14] <weird55> but mac  software in ubuntu is not possible?
[16:14] <Gnea> snitko: usually there's a name there that directly relates to the name of the application in question.
[16:14] <bakarat> just out of curiosity, is there any priority to fixing easy multiple screen management?
[16:15] <Rioting_pacifist> is there a problem with sourceforge svn ssh atm ? im getting an invalid cert is this a mitm attack or just a temporary problem at sf?
[16:15] <bobbob1016> Gnea, You said "uhm, 3d works just fine in vmware, not sure about vbox."  meaning "Um, not sure if you know this but it works in vmware, not sure bout vbox..."
[16:15] <snitko> Gnea: and if there's no such file, the service doesn't start? I'm just not familiar with /etc/default and it's purposes
[16:15] <linkinxp> bobbob1016, lol
[16:15] <Gnea> weird55: is this something that you know by reading about it, or through actual experience? i've used 3d in vmplayer without any problems at all.
[16:15] <bobbob1016> Gnea, reading as* not meaning, I don't know what you meant
[16:16] <Gnea> bobbob1016: that's what i said, yes. i said that *I* am not sure if 3d works in vbox, since i haven't tried using it in vbox before.
[16:16] <weird55> Gnea, you used 3d in vmplayer or in het pay version of vmplayer?
[16:16] <Gnea> weird55: there is no pay version vmplayer.
[16:16] <linkinxp> any ubuntu blog that is updated everyday with tools news etc?????
[16:17] <Gnea> snitko: some programs have them there, some don't. try looking at some of the files there to get a better idea.
[16:17] <MrSoundless> hi all, I'm trying to set 'harddisk permissions' by command anyone got an idea how I should start? (using dsl not ubuntu.. @ livecd)
[16:17] <weird55> workstation has support, but you must buy it
[16:17] <bobbob1016> Gnea, This is off topic, but he said it doesn't work in vbox, so he knows, and I thought you were correcting him saying that 3D does work in vmware which he said works...
[16:18] <Pit_bull> Пред
[16:18] <bobbob1016> weird55, Have you tried qemu?  Not sure if it works with 3D though
[16:18] <Gnea> weird55: no you don't, you can use the 30-day trial key to do anything with workstation. the resulting files can then be used in vmplayer.
[16:18] <weird55> oke
[16:18] <MrSoundless> hi all, I'm trying to set 'harddisk permissions' by command anyone got an idea how I should start? (using dsl not ubuntu.. @ livecd)
[16:18] <weird55> thank you verry mutch and have vmplayer also support for 3d?
[16:19] <weird55> thank you verry mutch everyone
[16:19] <nomoa> hi, anyone can explain to me what is causing /proc permissions restrictions like this : http://pastebin.com/m14b89bf4 ?
[16:19] <Gnea> bobbob1016: i was correcting him from spreading disinformation.
[16:19] <Aquahallic> Hi all
[16:19] <mrwhippy> hi all, anyone help me with mounting lvm drives i have the drives setup and want one to be used to store my virtual machines in but i cant access it
[16:20] <bobbob1016> Gnea, Again, off topic, but he never was spreading disinformation, since he said "3D works in vmware"
[16:20] <Gnea> !lv | mrwhippy
[16:20] <Gnea> !lvm | mrwhippy
[16:20] <MrSoundless> hi all, I'm trying to set 'harddisk permissions' by command anyone got an idea how I should start? (using dsl not ubuntu.. @ livecd)
[16:20] <mrwhippy> gnea: i have no idea what that means
[16:20] <Gnea> mrwhippy: ignore the first one.
[16:20] <debCarlos> !repeat MrSoundless
[16:20] <weird55> Gnea, thank you verry mutch for the information
[16:20] <DoofsMcDiddles> hi
[16:20] <debCarlos> !repeta | MrSoundless
[16:20] <Aquahallic> I have ubuntu hardy installed and running emerald and compiz... I'm trying to install a package that says I have to have qt 4.3 or later installed... is this already installed with ubuntu hardy?
[16:20] <mrwhippy> gnea i still have no idea what that means
[16:20] <bobbob1016> !patience | MrSoundless
[16:20] <weird55> have a good day, and see you later
[16:20] <debCarlos> !repeat | MrSoundless
[16:21] <Tulimaq> MrSoundless: have you allredy mounted the partitions ?
[16:21] <mrwhippy> thanks ubottu
[16:21] <MrSoundless> srry guys I'm just in a hurry
[16:21] <debCarlos> Man, three tries to do a simple !repeat :P
[16:21] <Gnea> mrwhippy: why do you need to run LVM?
[16:21] <MrSoundless> I'm at work and trying to fix a harddisk/server problem
[16:22] <UbuntuWizkid> Hello All, Has anyone here tried to build Ubuntu server only to find that they can't get startx to work?
[16:22] <MrSoundless> and I got like ... 10 mins left
[16:22] <Gnea> !patience | MrSoundless
[16:22] <MrSoundless> I know just saying.. so you know why I did it >.<
[16:22] <Gnea> :)
[16:22] <mrwhippy> gnea: i put it in there to give me more control over the disks on the server also to try and figure it out, unfortunately i seem to be stuck at the first hurdle
[16:22] <pawel> does anyone of you have a cure for firefox and flash in ubuntu?
[16:23] <bakarat> just out of curiosity, is there any priority to fixing easy multiple screen management?
[16:23] <debCarlos> !flash
[16:23] <pawel> debCarlos: but it's so unstable
[16:23] <callbox47> can anyone point to info on how to boot 8.04 from CD?  I'm stuck in a loop at the logon / password prompt
[16:23] <pawel> debCarlos: it crashes every so often
[16:24] <pawel> debCarlos: both ff2 and ff3
[16:24] <soundray> UbuntuWizkid: server comes without X, so it's no surprise that startx doesn't work
[16:24] <brolly81> i have my pc hooked up to a 42in lcd, how do i resize so that my prog a within my screen. i tried the screen resolution and that didnt work.
[16:24] <pawel> and when it doesn't crash and goes grey occasionally :)
[16:24] <brolly81> i have my pc hooked up to a 42in lcd, how do i resize so that my prog a within my screen. i tried the screen resolution and that didnt work.
[16:25] <debCarlos> pawel: really ? i don't know, my ff have never crashed... But that's not much since my machine is one month old ...
[16:25] <GEORGIO_ARMANI> салам всем
[16:25] <soundray> brolly81: try to configure a display with the correct resolution through 'gksudo displayconfig-gtk'
[16:25] <UbuntuWizkid> Yeah Soundray I know I have installed core windows components and updates, but the best I can get the server to show is a blank desktop
[16:26] <UbuntuWizkid> Just wondered if there was a gotcha I wasn't aware of.
[16:26] <brolly81> i how do i get to gksudo displayconfig-gtk'
[16:26] <soundray> UbuntuWizkid: so startx does work
[16:26] <IdleOne> !ru | GEORGIO_ARMANI
[16:26] <Gnea> mrwhippy: check this out: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-lvm-filesystem
[16:26] <soundray> brolly81: call it from a terminal
[16:26] <soundray> !cli | brolly81
[16:27] <IdleOne> brolly81: alt-F2
[16:27] <StickyLap> Hi, if I wish to allow .htaccess files on a virtual host, where would be my best place to have a look to find out information?
[16:27] <soundray> brolly81: or just hit Alt-F2 and enter it in the run dialog
[16:27] <Glady> lol
[16:27] <soundray> UbuntuWizkid: if you want a complete desktop environment, install ubuntu-desktop  (but why, then, did you choose server?)
[16:28] <Glady> stickylap
[16:28] <StickyLap> Hi Glady
[16:28] <Guest75098> is there a command to convert a drawer of pnm files into djvu ?
[16:28] <UbuntuWizkid> I haven't used the server product before I am just playing with it to see if it could push some of our windows boxes out.
[16:28] <Glady> rolf
[16:28] <tjcrazy> Anyone help me with a MAC OS X iso in virtualbox/vmware?
[16:29] <UbuntuWizkid> always looking for ways to reduce our dependency on Microsoft
[16:29] <tjcrazy> Anyone?
[16:30] <Glady> I think this place is doomed
[16:30] <tjcrazy> [tjcrazy()] Anyone help me with a MAC OS X iso in virtualbox/vmware?
[16:30] <Glady> mac os x
[16:30] <tjcrazy> Lol so this is the main ubuntu support channel :p
[16:30] <Glady> u have to set xauthority
[16:30] <krauss> Woot. Down with Microsoft @ UbuntuWizid
[16:30] <tjcrazy> I want it for video editing :p
[16:30] <krauss> Woot. Down with Microsoft @ UbuntuWizikd
[16:30] <tjcrazy> xauthority? Whats that?
[16:31] <krauss> OMG....
[16:31] <krauss> Woot. Down with Microsoft @ UbuntuWizkid
[16:31] <krauss> There.
[16:31] <soundray> krauss: stop please
[16:31] <krauss> o_o
[16:31] <mypup> lol
[16:31] <krauss> I was only trying to get his name right, soundray.
[16:31] <Baryon> Is there tech help here?
[16:31] <mandark> hm
[16:31] <Glady> krauss is should be banned
[16:31] <Gnea> krauss: your method of doing so is clearly inappropriate.
[16:31] <Glady> you should
[16:32] <krauss> Soundray: Warning appreciated though.
[16:32] <Gnea> Baryon: there is if you ask a straight-forward and detailed question.
[16:32] <Baryon> Can I find tech help for Ubuntu Server here?
[16:32] <krauss> I've stopped, leave me alone please?
[16:32] <Gnea> !server | Baryon
[16:32] <Glady> lol
[16:32] <Flannel> Baryon: Yes
[16:32] <Glady> leave me alone
[16:32] <Glady> I m in a 200 persons' channel
[16:32] <Glady> BUT
[16:33] <Glady> leave me alone
[16:33] <Flannel> Glady: Please stop
[16:33] <Glady> sry sry
[16:33] <Gnea> !offtopic
[16:33] <tjcrazy> Anyone help me with a MAC OS X iso in virtualbox/vmware?
[16:33] <Baryon> I just performed "apt-get upgrade" on Gusty, then "apt-get update", following an "apt-get install ircd-hybrid", and the system stopped respondiong to my cygwin XWin client
[16:33] <soundray> Baryon: there is also a #ubuntu-server channel, but feel free to describe the problem here
[16:33] <Gnea> tjcrazy: tried #vmware? that's not really an ubuntu issue.
[16:34] <sbeh> hi, man hcid.conf says, that the user is asked for a pin, if you try to create a connection with 'hcitool cc', where and how is the user asked for that pin?
[16:34] <Ockonal> How can i get systemsettings( kde4 ) with root?
[16:34] <tjcrazy> Ok
[16:34] <Flannel> Baryon: You did those in the wrong order, by the way.  update then upgrade (or update than dist-upgrade)
[16:34] <Gnea> sbeh: it usually pops up a window when the connection is made
[16:34] <soundray> krauss: that wasn't so much a warning as a polite request. Your intention noted, though ;)
[16:34] <sbeh> Gnea: but the machine is headless
[16:34] <Baryon> SHould I remove ircd-hybrid, and re-install it then?
[16:35] <krauss> soundray: thanks =]
[16:35] <Flannel> Baryon: have you tried reconnecting with xwin?
[16:36] <Baryon> No. Cygwin still works with my other server which I have not "updraded"
[16:36] <Gnea> sbeh: have you tried adding the pin to one of the /etc/bluetooth/* files?
[16:37] <Ockonal> How can i get systemsettings( kde4 ) with root?
[16:37] <sbeh> Gnea: how do i do that?
[16:37] <Gnea> sbeh: should be a passkey option in the hci.conf file in the options{}
[16:37] <sbeh> Gnea: passkey is for incoming connections
[16:38] <Gnea> sbeh: i have no idea then. does the device not allow you to enter a pin on it?
[16:39] <Baryon> Has anyone performed today's "apt-get upgrade" with Gutsy Server (V7.10)
[16:39] <Glady> how come I do apt-get update and synaptic still says that I have updates to do?
[16:39] <Cosmo-san> hey guys, is there a way to have the file save in two places, specifically in gedit?
[16:39] <ikonia> Cosmo-san: save it 2 times
[16:39] <ikonia> Cosmo-san: or save it once and copy it
[16:39] <Gnea> Cosmo-san: yeah, make a symbolic link
[16:39] <Glady> ah
[16:39] <`Matir> Is anyone aware of a good cross-platform program for photo tagging/categorization?  I have a NAS with ~10k photos and users on both Windows and Linux and I'm trying to find something decent before deciding to develop something myself. :)
[16:39] <Glady> u read the same book than me
[16:40] <Rindae> How to enable backports?
[16:40] <soundray> Glady: because apt-get update only updates your repository list and doesn't install anything
[16:40] <IdleOne> !sources | Rindae
[16:40] <sbeh> Gnea: i connected remote with Xnest -query and entered the pin in the dialog you mentioned
[16:40] <soundray> Glady: run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to update your installed packages
[16:40] <sbeh> Gnea: thx
[16:40] <Cosmo-san> can I make a symbolic link for an entire folder?
[16:41] <ikonia> Cosmo-san: for the folder, or all it's contents
[16:41] <Cosmo-san> and if any file in the folder or subfolder is changed, it will update the symbolic link?
[16:41] <rolf_> Glady
[16:42] <ikonia> Cosmo-san: a sym link is for 1 file
[16:42] <ikonia> Cosmo-san: so you can't have a link for 1 file linking to multiple files
[16:42] <smacnay> Hi, I am using 8.04 as a server and seem to not be able to get fuse (on a client) to find the samba shares on the server.  Is this a problem with Hardy Heron right now?
[16:42] <`Matir> Cosmo-san, you CAN make a symlink that points to a folder.
[16:42] <ikonia> smacnay: no, it's not a problem
[16:42] <ikonia> `Matir: that won't do what he wants though
[16:43] <kdnewton> Cosmo-san: Think of a 'symlink' as a "shortcut" to a folder/file
[16:43] <jakechen> hello
[16:43] <`Matir> ikonia, perhaps I misinterpreted his request
[16:43] <ikonia> `Matir: it's not very clear at a first glance
[16:43] <Cosmo-san> ah, so it won't copy the contents, it'll just point to them?
[16:43] <kdnewton> That's right
[16:43] <ikonia> Cosmo-san: I wonder if rsync would meet your needs
[16:43] <Cosmo-san> I basically would like a backup of the file in a nother location
[16:43] <`Matir> Cosmo-san, why do you want to save a file in two places?
[16:43] <`Matir> Cosmo-san, ah
[16:43] <Cosmo-san> *another
[16:44] <ikonia> Cosmo-san: I sugggest rsync then
[16:44] <smacnay> ikonia, ok, thanks - not sure why I can't get this server to show up on my client machine, though.
[16:44] <`Matir> Cosmo-san, I agree with ikonia.  I use cron to routinely rsync my more important files to another server.
[16:44] <smacnay> Cosmo-san, also look at rdiff-backup.
[16:44] <laptop> Hello, I installed ubuntu 8.04, and when I was installing it I used option to use whole hard disk(120gb), now I have lots of space left, and I want to install Windows XP without deleting Ubuntu, is that possible?
[16:45] <Nutzebahn-Gentoo> Hello.
[16:46] <soundray> laptop: possible, but hairy. Have you got a bit of Linux experience?
[16:46] <rockosays> laptop: try using vmware server
[16:46] <Nutzebahn-Gentoo> How many packages does Ubuntu have?
[16:46] <Er_Fantasma> Hy guys!
[16:46] <ikonia> Nutzebahn-Gentoo: hundreds
[16:46] <eight> Nutzebahn-Gentoo: 7
[16:46] <Er_Fantasma> Long time no see
[16:46] <laptop> I have some linux experience, yes
[16:46] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: don't be silly
[16:46] <Er_Fantasma> :)
[16:47] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: it's not nice to miss-lead people
[16:47] <Shishire> laptop: http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[16:47] <RickZilla> Trying out Ubuntu for the first time on cd...it's rocking my face off, can't wait to install it on some older machines I've got at home
[16:47] <Er_Fantasma> ikonia WHAT?
[16:47] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: sorry - not you
[16:47] <Er_Fantasma> I've just arrived
[16:47] <Er_Fantasma> k :)
[16:47] <Nutzebahn-Gentoo> 7?
[16:47] <ikonia> eight: it doesn't have 7 packages
[16:47] <Nutzebahn-Gentoo> How many in their repositories?
[16:47] <ikonia> Nutzebahn-Gentoo: ignore that - it has hundreds
[16:47] <Shishire> RickZilla: nice! I've found that Ubuntu even runs well on a 2000 celeron, so...
[16:47] <Nutzebahn-Gentoo> Ok.
[16:47] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: apologies, autocomplete went wrong
[16:48] <Er_Fantasma> Ubuntu runs on everything!
[16:48] <soundray> laptop: if it was my laptop, I would wipe it, install Windows, then install Ubuntu again. Having said that, you can install Windows and preserve your Ubuntu installation.
[16:48] <Er_Fantasma> Even a Z80!
[16:48] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: not quite
[16:48] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: it has ram and cpu limitations
[16:48] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: different platforms have difference support levels also
[16:48] <Er_Fantasma> Yeap! I know! It was a kind of saying
[16:49] <Cosmo-san> thanks guys, that helped a lot.  :D
[16:49] <soundray> laptop: what makes it difficult is that Windows expects to be on the first partition. So what you do is to resize your existing partition, create a new partition in the space won, duplicate the contents of the first into the second partition, format the first partition with fat32 and install Windows on it.
[16:50] <soundray> laptop: you will have to update /etc/fstab, /boot/grub/menu.lst and reinstall grub.
[16:50] <Shishire> soundray: fat32? talk about taking forever to load...
[16:50] <krauss> I had Grub on my Dell Optiplex
[16:50] <Er_Fantasma> Is there a good program that you can generate some GUI windows that you can then mix with the c++ code?
[16:50] <krauss> I had two HDD's though.
[16:51] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: gui programming is normally do through c++ tool kits
[16:51] <Er_Fantasma> something like the crap Vision from microsoft
[16:51] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: there is no such product as "crap vision" if you can't be factual and respectful to products - don't talk about them
[16:51] <Er_Fantasma> so... how's functioning?
[16:51] <Er_Fantasma> got to join #c++ ?
[16:51] <soundray> Shishire: yeah, I just said it so it would be visible to the WIndows installer. It should normally be converted to ntfs automatically during installation
[16:51] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: depends what you want
[16:51] <Er_Fantasma> Sorry!
[16:52] <xnv> Er_Fantasma: Is something like Glade what you're looking for?
[16:52] <Shishire> soundray: yes, but the XP installer can also detect both unformatted space and NTFS.  It still needs to reformat them, though
[16:52] <eml> Hey all, I'm looking for help with MTP (Music Transfer Protocol), I'm trying to get it working for my Sandisk Sansa Clip mp3-player. I installed mtp-tools and the library, and I'm getting some errors: http://rafb.net/p/HK07Gy58.html
[16:52] <Er_Fantasma> ok... A program that can generate GUI windows for gnome that you can mix with the c++ code.
[16:53] <soundray> Shishire: okay -- there's nothing inherently wrong with my suggestion, though -- is there?
[16:53] <Er_Fantasma> Lets say to build graphical interfaces for c++ programs
[16:53] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: the gui is developed with c++ against graphics libraries/widgets like gtk
[16:53] <Shishire> soundray: sorry, no.  I'm just a bit jumpy
[16:53] <Er_Fantasma> Yes!
[16:53] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: so there is your answer
[16:53] <soundray> laptop: am I making sense?
[16:54] <DPVNB> Hi, I have a problem with my sound card. The input doesn't work. Here are the outputs of lspci etc: http://tinyurl.com/558x3c
[16:54] <xnv> Er_Fantasma: Look at Glade to see if that's what you want.
[16:54] <Aquahallic> afternoon folks
[16:54] <Guest75098> How to change the following command so that $i will always be a 4 digits number ? for ((i=0; i<15; i++)) do echo MonFichier-$i; done;
[16:54] <hal_v2> Okay, not new to ubuntu or compiz but recently I switched from desktop cube to plane and then back to cube. problem is now that when I use my middle mouse button or my scrolling buttons it doesn't recognize it's inside a window and it just switches viewport/zooms out as if it was on the desktop. this was never a problem before.
[16:54] <Er_Fantasma> But something that you can build windows like QT4 assistant
[16:54] <Aquahallic> compiling a software that there's no package for in the repos... what does this warning mean... You should update your `aclocal.m4' by running aclocal.
[16:54] <ikonia> Er_Fantasma: you may want to join the gnome channel and ask the developers how they deal with it
[16:55] <xnv> Er_Fantasma: Or you can just look at Glade like I keep repeating
[16:55] <Er_Fantasma> OK!
[16:55] <ikonia> Aquahallic: "run acloclal to update aclocal.m4"
[16:55] <Er_Fantasma> :)
[16:55] <ikonia> Aquahallic: what package
[16:55] <Er_Fantasma> Ok! OK!
[16:55] <Aquahallic> it's the new firewall builder
[16:55] <Alim> Helo
[16:56] <hal_v2> Okay, not new to ubuntu or compiz but recently I switched from desktop cube to plane and then back to cube. problem is now that when I use my middle mouse button or my scrolling buttons it doesn't recognize it's inside a window and it just switches viewport/zooms out as if it was on the desktop. this was never a problem before.
[16:56] <soundray> !repeat | hal_v2
[16:56] <ikonia> hal_v2: you've just asked that
[16:56] <hal_v2> Thanks, that's helpful.
[16:56] <smm289> hello all.  is it possible for a graphics driver to cause artifacts on an LED laptop screen.  I have been running vista on my xps1330 for awhile an never noticed to little white dots on my screen.  These dots are only visible when I cover them with a light window, like the one this chat is displayed on.    I never noticed these in vista, could the ubuntu drivers for the nvi
[16:56] <hal_v2> Asshat.
[16:56] <ikonia> hal_v2: be polite
[16:56] <eml> Okay I found something that might fix my problem. I need to update libmtp to version 0.3.1, but I don't know if there's an ubuntu package for it. How do I see which version is in the repository?
[16:56] <soundray> !ops | hal_v2 abuse
[16:56] <hal_v2> Oh my god.
[16:57] <eml> !help mtp
[16:57] <hal_v2> I can't help but wonder if you people are here to help or just to quote rules.
[16:57] <eml> !mtp
[16:57] <eml> Too bad
[16:57] <Myrtti> can you kids please behave?
[16:57] <hal_v2> I can try.
[16:57] <ikonia> hal_v2: calm down, someone will respond when they know the answer
[16:57] <amaranth> what?
[16:57] <pabix> Hello — I am trying to run a script that used to work well with netcat (it sends HTTP requests and captures the responses), but now it does not work with nc, only with telnet. Is there that much difference?
[16:57] <hal_v2> I'm calm, this just always happens.
[16:57] <ikonia> hal_v2: however, that doesnt mean you can be smart / rude to people
[16:57] <ikonia> hal_v2: then adjust your attitude and follow the rules.
[16:57] <amaranth> i don't speak english.
[16:58] <hal_v2> Grrr, you're angry. I get it. I'm sorry for breaking your rules.
[16:58] <ikonia> hal_v2: I'm not angry - I'm trying to help you get a response for your question
[16:58] <Ockonal> Hey, guys. How can i open systemsettings with root-privilegies?
[16:58] <hal_v2> Just don't ban me again, please. :)
[16:58] <ikonia> hal_v2: just be polite to people
[16:58] <soundray> hal_v2: how about apologizing for the gross insult you dished out
[16:58] <Ockonal> sudo systemsettings - unknow command
[16:59] <hal_v2> soundray: which one?
[16:59] <ikonia> hal_v2: soundray please drop it
[16:59] <ikonia> just be polite/respectful to each other and lets move on
[16:59] <hal_v2> Will do.
[16:59] <CShadowRun> does anyone know the licensing surrounding /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/4x6.pcf.gz and if it's open who i should assign credit to, i want to include it in something i'm making :)
[17:01] <hal_v2> Just a side note: Anyone know any programs that will do mla format for me automatically? College papers are annoying.
[17:01] <bullgard4> I have read 'man sgrep'. What is the most common practical use case of sgrep?
[17:01] <Wanderer> anyone running a bind9 master server with google doing the slave services?
[17:01] <ikonia> bullgard4: not in #ubuntu please
[17:01] <gnuskool> hello
[17:02] <ikonia> Wanderer: google doing the slave ?
[17:02] <ikonia> Wanderer: google does not have open DNS servers that I'm aware of
[17:02] <bullgard4> ikonia: Ubuntu users should not use sgrep?
[17:02] <smm289> whats the diff between the ubuntu cd and the ubuntu dvd
[17:02] <ikonia> bullgard4: thats generic linux command help
[17:02] <gnuskool> is there a prog in ubuntu to  check sectors on a flash drive, and mark them as bad?
[17:02] <ikonia> smm289: dvd has more packages on without downloading
[17:02] <kdnewton> Ockonal: You could try right clicking the link in the menu and finding the command that is run for systemsettings
[17:02] <PriceChild> smm289: the dvd contains the entire main and restricted repositories.
[17:02] <xnv> CShadowRun: It's X11, so probably the MIT license
[17:02] <soundray> gnuskool: flash drives don't have sectors
[17:02] <Wanderer> ikonia: they're doing mail/dns for my domain under the google apps
[17:03] <brolly81> my display is all messed up. how do i fix it? I have it hocked up to a 42in lcd samsung
[17:03] <gnuskool> soundray: my bad, so how do i stop certain parts of it being used then?
[17:03] <kdnewton> Ockonal: I'm not too familiar with KDE4 to know if the menu displays the command
[17:03] <Ockonal> kdnewton: it doesn't work
[17:03] <CShadowRun> xnv i see :)
[17:03] <Alim>
[17:03] <bullgard4> smm289: The difference is not big. The DVD has a few additional programs.
[17:03] <arun> hi
[17:03] <PriceChild> bullgard4: the dvd contains the entire main and restricted repositories.
[17:03] <ikonia> Wanderer: apologies I'm not following
[17:03] <carandraug> hal_v2: you mean formatting references?
[17:04] <spiritssight> what is the differents between ubuntu server and desktop?
[17:04] <gnuskool> when you get a read error on a 5 gig flash drive must you throw it away?
[17:04] <Ockonal> kdnewton: right-clicking will open
[17:04] <brolly81> my display is all messed up. how do i fix it? I have it hocked up to a 42in lcd samsung
[17:04] <soundray> gnuskool: you don't. Flash drives manage themselves, you can't address a particular memory region on them. This is due to wear-levelling, which takes place outside the control of the OS.
[17:04] <arun> how to run windows installed software using wine
[17:04] <Ockonal> kdnewton: I need to set date/time
[17:04] <ikonia> !wine > arun
[17:04] <magnetron> !helpersnack | ikonia
[17:04] <jonathan_> hello!
[17:04] <Wanderer> ikonia: sec, may have found something
[17:04] <jonathan_> can anyone tell me where the config of the video4linux driver is safed??
[17:04] <hal_v2> Maybe. I'm thinking like an openoffice only it is guided specifically at college papers.
[17:04] <smm289> so it doesn't really matter then.  I going force convert my girlfriend to ubuntu ;) I am going to try out her laptop with a Live CD or DVD I have both, just wondering what the diff was
[17:04] <soundray> gnuskool: it's painful, I know. I had to bin a 4GB SD card
[17:05] <brolly81> my display is all messed up. how do i fix it? I have it hocked up to a 42in lcd samsung
[17:05] <bicz> halo where i can find list of supported prints?
[17:05] <arun> mr ubottu ,iam able to run only notepad using wine,if i specify any other path i recieve a dos disk not found error
[17:05] <gnuskool> soundray: its really a waste, but i suppose i'll have to toss this one too
[17:06] <Ockonal> kdnewton: do you know, how to change time/date with console?
[17:06] <carandraug> hal_v2: you have zotero which is a firefox extension ot biblius which is a program on it's own. Both of them integrate in OpenOffice. Zotero is much simpler to work with
[17:06] <jonathan_> no ideas?
[17:06] <hal_v2> Thanks. Anyone get anything on my first question yet?
[17:06] <krauss> soundray: I just clicked the maximum visual effects on my appearance preferences window, it looks as if it has stopped responding.
[17:06] <ikonia> hal_v2: just be patient
[17:06] <hal_v2> K
[17:06] <brolly81> soundtray how do i get to my display config
[17:06] <brolly81> ?
[17:07] <hal_v2> It's very irritating, sorry.
[17:07] <ikonia> hal_v2: if they didn't see your question, they won't know it, if they saw it but don't know it, they won't all of a sudden know
[17:07] <Ruslan}> Саламы
[17:07] <kdnewton> Ockonal: date -s "11 SEPT 2008 CUR:RENT:TIME"
[17:07] <krauss> soundray: do I just wait, or should I force it to close?
[17:07] <hal_v2> ikonia: that's why I repeat myself. :P
[17:07] <kdnewton> where cur:rent:time is the current time
[17:07] <magnetron> arun, wine doesn't operate on the physical disks, but instead it operates on the virtual disks. you need to install your software on the Virtual wine disks to be able to run them - the virtual disks only contain notepad after wine is installed
[17:07] <carandraug> hal_v2: try repeating that question every hour or so. Maybe in the mean time someone that knows the answer will be in the room
[17:07] <soundray> brolly81: 'gksudo displayconfig-gtk'
[17:07] <Ockonal> kdnewton: thanks!
[17:07] <dzhoser> кто нибудь говорит по русски
[17:07] <Ockonal> dzhoser: i'm
[17:07] <hal_v2> carandraug: I wish I had that kind of time
[17:08] <arun> how to do that mr magnetron
[17:08] <soundray> krauss: I'd give it a minute, then kill
[17:08] <Ockonal> dzhoser: я :)
[17:08] <Rioting_pacifist> why would stuff intermintantly apear in lsusb when its always physicaly inside my laptop
[17:08] <krauss> soundray: it's been like that for a while. thanks. I'll kill it
[17:08] <ikonia> arun: have you read the docs ubottu posted you
[17:09] <soundray> Rioting_pacifist: internal devices can be connected to the USB
[17:09] <magnetron> arun, usually you doubleclick on the installer exe file. ubottu will give you a link to a site with per-application instructions.
[17:09] <magnetron> !appdb > arun
[17:09] <magnetron> !pm > arun
[17:09] <gnuskool> any thinkpad r51 users here?
[17:09] <krauss> Gah, brb.
[17:09] <ikonia> gnuskool: just ask the real question
[17:09] <BashItOut> brb
[17:09] <Rioting_pacifist> soundray: but why would it disapear when its still got to be physically connected ?
[17:09] <brolly81> i am having a hard time with my display? i have a sumsunt 42in lcd, can you help? i tried to pull it up on my terminal and adjust and the the OS is too big
[17:09] <magnetron> arun, wine isn't windows and not all apps run in wine
[17:09] <brolly81> wtf
[17:10] <smm289> its amazing, I bought my xps1330 with 3Gb ram, vista regularly used about 40% of that.  Ubuntu uses about 350Mb and runs beautifully fast.   Its just amazing to me
[17:10] <gnuskool> my intel graphics mobile extreme card on thinkpad r51 is really slow, like 386 slow, ive tried everything under the sun, any ideas?
[17:11] <ikonia> gnuskool: what driver are you using
[17:11] <brolly81> i am having a hard time with my display? i have a sumsunt 42in lcd, can you help? i tried to pull it up on my terminal and adjust and the the OS is too big
[17:11] <gnuskool> ikonia: intel driver
[17:11] <soundray> Rioting_pacifist: this can happen if the laptop BIOS has the capability to power the internal device down.
[17:11] <ikonia> gnuskool: intel or i810
[17:11] <soundray> !wtf > brolly81
[17:11] <soundray> !repeat > brolly81
[17:11] <gnuskool> ikonia: i810 :D
[17:12] <ikonia> gnuskool: change it to intel
[17:12] <gnuskool> ikonia: how?
[17:12] <ikonia> gnuskool: intel is the more advanced driver
[17:12] <ikonia> gnuskool: in your xorg.conf
[17:12] <soundray> brolly81: why don't you run displayconfig-gtk as has been suggested?
[17:12] <gnuskool> ikonia: thx
[17:12] <Rioting_pacifist> soundray:  so it cant be fixed using some special lsusb command? :(
[17:13] <soundray> Rioting_pacifist: explain what the exact problem is please
[17:13] <Wanderer> ok, opendns has something cached wrong
[17:14] <spiritssight> can someone tell me the differents between ubuntu server and desktop
[17:15] <soundray> !server | spiritssight
[17:15] <kindofabuzz> server = no desktop
[17:15] <kindofabuzz> by default
[17:16] <kindofabuzz> Wanderer, you can go to opendns's site and have it check a cache
[17:17] <lat> I used gparted to format a USB drive, but it doesn't show up in the file browser. Is there something else I need to do?
[17:17] <Rioting_pacifist> soundray:  i have a webcam (m5602 not supported) and it sometimes shows in lsusb, thats about all i know
[17:17] <ronny> hi
[17:18] <soundray> Rioting_pacifist: do you dualboot Windows?
[17:18] <ronny> got a weird issue, network-manager stops my manual configured usb0 (in /etc/network/interfaces) from working
[17:18] <ronny> im using intrepid
[17:18] <ronny> anyone got an idea on what to do ?
[17:18] <soundray> ronny: please ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:18] <Rioting_pacifist> soundray: nope, vista doesnt work since i shrunk it.
[17:19] <soundray> Rioting_pacifist: if you disable the webcam in the BIOS setup, it probably won't be seen by lsusb any more.
[17:20] <gsd> Hey guys can someone help me with an error I get when ever I try to play an .avi in VLC? [00000345] a52 decoder: A/52 channels:6 samplerate:48000 bitrate:448000
[17:20] <gsd> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[17:21] <hal_v2> blargh
[17:21] <brolly81> soundtray i did as you suggested and looked up my manual for the tv and choose the best option close to my tv, restarted my pc and now the display is worst
[17:21] <slashzul> is there an IM for ubuntu gnome desktop?
[17:22] <ksbalaji> What is .ICE Authority file? I had problems with it while opening session and I had to login as root to delete it. Now my session works but some features are gone.
[17:22] <`Matir> slashzul, pidgin?
[17:22] <filius> i want your help
[17:22] <tyo> yfikyu
[17:22] <Rioting_pacifist> soundray: i was trying to get the camera working, but i suppose if its a bios problem theres not much i can do
[17:22] <matteo_> Hello, i am trying to install Xubuntu's last version on an gp with 238 Mb ram all went fine until now. I am stucked at 15% of installation :"finding system's files" i can hear some sound from the pc but nothing happens... Any tips?
[17:22] <filius> anybody can help me?
[17:22] <`Matir> Anyone know of a good photo-tagging application that's cross-platform and allows concurrent access from multiple users?
[17:23] <gsd> filius: just ask
[17:23] <MacAgony> msg nickserv set hidemail on
[17:23] <cgentry72> I am using the latest Ubuntu and trying to get emerald decorations to work but the only way I know how is to run emerald --replace
[17:24] <kindofabuzz> matteo_, you're not from LBC by any chance are you? just curious
[17:24] <ksbalaji> What is .ICE Authority file? I had problems with it while opening session and I had to login as root to delete it. Now my session works but some features are gone.
[17:24] <cgentry72> is there another way?
[17:24] <soundray> Rioting_pacifist: so the real problem is that you can't get your webcam to work?
[17:24] <spiritssight> will the server vision work on a computer that had the desktop vision (using a webserver)
[17:24] <slashzul> is there an IM for ubuntu gnome desktop besides pidgin?
[17:24] <Rioting_pacifist> soundray:  well i can get it to work when its in lsusb but it not when its not
[17:24] <filius> i want add snow effect on my ubuntu
[17:24] <spiritssight> (using as webserver)
[17:24] <PriceChild> spiritssight: the server and desktop versions are the same, just slightly different sets of software installed to begin with
[17:25] <PriceChild> spiritssight: you can install a webserver on the desktop version, or gnome on the server version.
[17:25] <filius> now i have the burn effect
[17:25] <soundray> Rioting_pacifist: so when does it disappear?
[17:25] <Nitsuga> hello. nobody knows how to set up the partition in text mode? thanks
[17:25] <matteo_> kindo i haven't understand :S
[17:25] <Rioting_pacifist> soundray:  sometimes its not there when i start the laptop othertimes it disapears if i swivel the camera around
[17:25] <spiritssight> Thank you very much for answering
[17:25] <kdnewton> slashzul: You could try kopete (uses KDE libs)
[17:25] <kdnewton> also aMSN
[17:26] <ksbalaji> Please respond -What is .ICE Authority file? I had problems with it while opening session and I had to login as root to delete it. Now my session works but some features are gone.
[17:26] <soundray> Nitsuga: you can use parted, fdisk and mkfs to partition disks and create filesystems
[17:27] <cgentry72> I am using the latest Ubuntu and trying to get emerald decorations to work but the only way I know how is to run emerald --replace
[17:27] <ksbalaji> Am I connected to ubuntu help channel please?
[17:27] <fr4nk-k> cgentry72: so, what's the problem?
[17:27] <cgentry72> fr4nk-k, I have to keep the terminal window open for decorations to show up
[17:27] <soundray> Rioting_pacifist: I think it has a wobbly internal connection
[17:28] <cgentry72> fr4nk-k, and i have to type this everytime I start ubuntu
[17:28] <kindofabuzz> cgentry72, alt-f2 emerald replace
[17:28] <kindofabuzz> or emerald --replace &
[17:28] <kindofabuzz> in cli
[17:28] <brolly81> i typed 'displayconfig-gtk' to change my display for my monitor and now it is saying i need administrative rights
[17:28] <kindofabuzz> i meant alt-f2 emerald --replace
[17:28] <hal_v2> Can I repeat my question yet?
[17:28] <smm289> has anyone been succesful in getting vista backup to backup its files to an ubuntu system
[17:28] <kdnewton> ksbalaji: you may have been better off changing the ownership of the .ICEauthority file
[17:29] <Rioting_pacifist> soundray: so it pobably needs taking to a computer shop ? where theyll probably tell me ubuntu is unsupprted :(
[17:29] <kdnewton> ksbalaji: I'm not sure the repercussions of deleting it, sorry
[17:29] <cgentry72> kindofabuzz, yes but it keeps the window open for me to use decorations, if i close it i lose the emerald decorations
[17:29] <smm289> I get a succesful connection, and it rights a few files to the ubuntu directory then I get some dumb windows error saying cannot create file when file already exists
[17:29] <dulapul> hello
[17:29] <brolly81> im sorry soundtray and ubuntu but it is frustrating for me too
[17:29] <fr4nk-k> cgentry72: You can try System > Settings > and there's a point (in German it's called "Sitzungen", the English translation is something like "Sessions"; there you can add emerald
[17:30] <ksbalaji> kdnewton, thanks for responding. In future, how to change ownership?
[17:30] <soundray> brolly81: I told you several times, you need to run 'gksudo displayconfig-gtk'
[17:30] <kindofabuzz> cgentry72, i just told you waht to do
[17:30] <fr4nk-k> cgentry72: by clicking "Add"
[17:30] <spiritssight> Why would someone choice ubuntu server over other verions
[17:30] <soundray> brolly81: and make sure you spell my nick correctly, otherwise I will miss your reply
[17:30] <ikonia> spiritssight: if someone was running on enterprise hardware
[17:30] <hal_v2> Okay, not new to ubuntu or compiz but recently I switched from desktop cube to plane and then back to cube. problem is now that when I use my middle mouse button or my scrolling buttons it doesn't recognize it's inside a window and it just switches viewport/zooms out as if it was on the desktop. this was never a problem before.
[17:31] <mudit> i was following a tutorial on how to setup svn server, and i messed up with 'sudo vigr'
[17:31] <kdnewton> ksbalaji: sudo chown yourusername:yourusername /home/yourusername/.ICEauthority
[17:31] <soundray> spiritssight: because it uses less disk space
[17:31] <kindofabuzz> cgentry72, alt -f2 emerald --replace, or on command line, emerald --replace & or add emerald --replace to your sessions
[17:31] <ksbalaji> kdnewton, Now what does ICEauthority do in the system please?
[17:31] <dulapul> how can i mount cd and dvd on ubuntu 8.04?
[17:31] <kindofabuzz> put it in
[17:31] <dulapul> can anyone help me
[17:31] <fr4nk-k> dulapul: should be working automatically.
[17:31] <mudit> how to get out of modifying mode ?
[17:31] <dulapul> no
[17:31] <dulapul> is not :(
[17:31] <Frozenball> ^^_______--
[17:31] <fr4nk-k> dulapul: using GNOME?
[17:32] <mudit> help me out please
[17:32] <dulapul> yes
[17:32] <Rioting_pacifist> soundray: thx for the help
[17:32] <rsc_> anyone know what media player is used here? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=86717&file1=86717-1.jpg&file2=86717-2.jpg&file3=86717-3.jpg&name=Shiki-Colors
[17:32] <smm289> !gksu
[17:32] <kdnewton> ksbalaji: Not sure what .ICEauthority does, really. I had problems with it and ksmserver back in 2005
[17:32] <minus_> dulapaul: try sudo mount scd0 /media/cdrom0
[17:32] <Krauss> Whew/
[17:33] <IndyGunFreak> rsc_: hmm,i'm not sure..
[17:33] <smm289> i have used gksu and it allows me to right click a file in nautilus and then change the ownership and stuff.  however if the file is on an old ntfs windows drive you cannot change the ownership
[17:33] <soundray> Rioting_pacifist: if you find a shop with reasonably competent people, and you tell them that your camera disconnects when you swivel it, they will probably be willing to help you.
[17:33] <minus_> dulapaul: my mistake, it is supposed to be /dev/scd0
[17:33] <IndyGunFreak> smm289: why can't you
[17:33] <rrittenhouse> I have two zip files that I backed my data up to last year (with a password). I now can't find the password that I used on the archives.... is there any way (in ubuntu) I can "guess" the password?
[17:33] <Nitsuga> soundray, I have alredy done the disk partitions, I only have to configure mount options and mount points
[17:33] <ksbalaji> kdnewton, thanks. Anyway the system somehow works and I have to find what has really gone wrong!
[17:33] <Krauss> Okay, I've tried to set my visuals to the maximum setting, and it says it couldn't apply it to the desktop. What could have created this problem?
[17:34] <smm289> i dunno, I try and it automatically changes it back to root ownership. I did a google search and i found a forum and they said that you cannot change owner ship of a file that is on ntfs that is root
[17:34] <laeg> alt+f1 or alt+ctrl+tab lets me access the top edged panel where i can easily cursor and tab along from the applications all the way to the end where the power button resides but tab and/or cursor are skipping my minimized apps in the system tray, how can i remedy this? also it's not listen in the ubuntu shortcuts
[17:34] <Rioting_pacifist> ksbalaji: it holds a magic cookie, for securtity stuff in xorg i think
[17:34] <abchirk> what I have to do, that resolvconf starts automatically every systemboot?
[17:34] <smm289> if you placed the file there from the linux box then yes, but if it was there origonally that it is stuck as root
[17:34] <abchirk> or every connection of wlan?
[17:34] <Jaeru> join #animehq
[17:34] <IndyGunFreak> smm289: if you say so..
[17:34] <smm289> least thats what I read, and the behavior is following that
[17:34] <smm289> i dunno
[17:35] <fr4nk-k> Jaeru: no.
[17:35] <Nitsuga> soundray, I have alredy done the disk partitions, I only have to configure mount options and mount points
[17:35] <Nitsuga> soundray, are you there?
[17:35] <Prose> if I asked Apache and SSH to listen to a same port and both daemons are started, could that make a server crash (like also crash samba daemons)?
[17:35] <soundray> !fstab > Nitsuga
[17:35] <smm289> i have an ntfs drive that has a lot of files I placed on it when I was using vista, now I am using ubuntu and I want to change the ownership back to me from root but it wont allow it.  My next step is to get rid of the ntfs file structure, then I should be all set
[17:35] <Ceiling_Cat> quick question - I'm assuming ubuntu keeps a log somewhere of the dates and times a machine boots up
[17:36] <Ceiling_Cat> where is it?
[17:36] <soundray> Ceiling_Cat: /var/log
[17:36] <Nitsuga> soundray, thanks
[17:36] <Krauss> soundray: Okay, I've tried to set my visuals to the maximum setting, and it says it couldn't apply it to the desktop. What could have created this problem?
[17:36] <mudit_> i messed up with vigr in command prompt
[17:36] <ksbalaji> Rioting_pacifist, Now I get it. I tried to enable ufw and disabled it. Most probably that switched off ICEAuthority!
[17:36] <mudit_> can anyone help me with this
[17:36] <Ceiling_Cat> soundf_ - I checked there. /var/log/boot is empty
[17:37] <filius> hello, root
[17:37] <mudit_> i dont know how to come out of 'vigr'
[17:37] <soundray> Krauss: your graphics driver may not support compiz
[17:37] <filius> hello soundray
[17:37] <Nucco> Smm: you have read-write access to the drive?
[17:38] <Krauss> soundray: Ah. So that's a down the drain effort, seeing as this is a laptop?
[17:38] <ksbalaji> Rioting_pacifist, magic cookie? - Net related?
[17:38] <soundray> mudit_: try hitting : then q -- failing that, Esc, then : then q
[17:38] <crdlb> Krauss: what video card is it?
[17:38] <soundray> filius: hi
[17:39] <keithclark> How do you turn on smdb?
[17:39] <spiritssight> soundray: the thing I hear is that the server gets many update and can break the system, what is your feeling on this?  why7 else should choice this over other disro?  I would also like to ask if YOU know of any good reads on learning about server / links and what things mean and do type stuff?
[17:39] <Krauss> soundray: let me check
[17:39] <paul_Xie> hi
[17:39] <mudit_> soundray: thanks. i was locked for ages there
[17:40] <nicoleamy> hello
[17:40] <Rioting_pacifist> ksbalaji: i dont think so but i really dont know much about it, i think its held more for the Xorg protocol
[17:40] <DefunctProcess> anyone have any experience getting wireless working on msi wind?  DHCP doesnt seem to work...
[17:40] <Krauss> crdlb: let me check/
[17:41] <mudit_> i am getting this error now >>> vigr: Couldn't lock file: Interrupted system call
[17:41] <soundray> spiritssight: the server version gets fewer updates than the Desktop. Breakage is extremely rare in released versions of Ubuntu server. Where did you get that misinformation?
[17:41] <laeg> alt+f1 or alt+ctrl+tab lets me access the top edged panel where i can easily cursor and tab along from the applications all the way to the end where the power button resides but tab and/or cursor are skipping my minimized apps in the system tray, how can i remedy this? also it's not listed in the ubuntu shortcuts
[17:41] <Nucco> DefunctProcess: can you explain more pls...
[17:41] <mudit_> i think i messed my groups and passwords
[17:41] <mudit_> damn it
[17:41] <brolly81> soundray: thanks i just used the detect button and it went to a default config display.
[17:41] <Gnea> !language | mudit_
[17:41] <DefunctProcess> Nucco, it associates with the AP but cant get an ip address from it.  I've installed the drivers from source
[17:41] <spiritssight> some person said it to me.  It may of been at the begging of time I don't know
[17:42] <nicoleamy> hello
[17:42] <Gnea> mudit_: have you checked the correct files to make sure it's still the same info?
[17:42] <soundray> spiritssight: for further information about the server edition, look at the ubottu factoid. I'll send it to you again
[17:42] <soundray> !server > spiritssight
[17:42] <nicoleamy> i want to know how to open command prompt at school
[17:42] <mudit_> Gnea: , are you a bot ?
[17:42] <nicoleamy> they have seemed to blocked it
[17:43] <Gnea> mudit_: no, ubottu is.
[17:43] <mudit_> ok
[17:43] <sparr> i want to remote control my home PC while it is behind a firewall, using a client-server-client system like gotomypc or something similar.  are there solutions like that for linux?
[17:43] <spiritssight> soundray: some person told me, maybe it was a pass issue I don't know I am no to all of this and really want to learn but I don't find to many people willing to teach a person that is a little slow at geting this stuff
[17:43] <Nucco> Defunctprocess: you're using networkmanager? It might be an issue with the dhcp config. Can you use manual ip?
[17:43] <mudit_> well, now the sudo command is not working
[17:43] <nicoleamy> hello
[17:43] <BashItOut> back
[17:43] <Gnea> mudit_: how are you trying to use it?
[17:43] <nicoleamy> i need help
[17:43] <NineTails> you tell me ;)
[17:43] <mudit_> i need to recover/backup, can I ?
[17:43] <bringatowel> sparr, idk how gotomypc works, but you can use VNC over secure SSH to do that
[17:43] <Krauss> Ok this sucks.
[17:44] <Gnea> !ask
[17:44] <soundray> mudit_: of course, if you've made a backup
[17:44] <nicoleamy> i serously need help
[17:44] <DefunctProcess> Nucco, I tried setting the ip manually in NM but it didnt work ....
[17:44] <Krauss> How do I check which graphics card I'm using?
[17:44] <soundray> Krauss: lspci | grep VGA
[17:44] <nicoleamy> i want to know how open the cmd at school
[17:44] <Gnea> !patience | nicoleamy
[17:44] <Krauss> soundray: In terminal?
[17:44] <Nucco> Defunctprocess: which version of network manager?
[17:44] <mudit_> Gnea:  this is the command >>> sudo vigr
[17:44] <soundray> Krauss: where else?
[17:45] <Gnea> mudit_: okay, and what is the error message?
[17:45] <Krauss> soundray: ;] haha, point taken
[17:45] <DefunctProcess> Nucco, 0.6.6
[17:45] <nicoleamy> i can't seem to open the cmd at school, do anybody know how to open the cmd for school computers?
[17:45] <Krauss> crdlb: It's an ATI
[17:45] <mudit_> vigr: Couldn't lock file: Interrupted system call
[17:45] <ganesh> from where can i download ubuntu studio ?(torrent)
[17:45] <Gnea> !repeat | nicoleamy
[17:45] <crdlb> Krauss: specifically?
[17:45] <ratpoison> hello! fglrx 8.04.1 x86-64 user: Once, my pc crashed and I restarted X. I was "greeted" not by GDM, but by a message from saying "Out of Sync". GDM seems to work perfectly, I just can't see anything. If I type blindly, I can login.
[17:45] <Krauss> crdlb: It says ATI Technologies Inc RS300M AGP [Radeon Mobility 9100IGP]
[17:46] <Gnea> nicoleamy: why do you need it at school?
[17:46] <Nucco> Defunctprocess, that version doesn't support static ip. Disable network manager and try using network-admin to connect, see if that works
[17:46] <nicoleamy> you know, to open all the websites so i can access it
[17:46] <crdlb> Krauss: ah ok, the fix should be easy; please join #compiz-fusion for a moment
[17:46] <mudit_> !kick | mudit_
[17:46] <mudit_> lol
[17:46] <nicoleamy> some websites are banned from school
[17:46] <Krauss> crdlb: Okay, thanks alot
[17:46] <Gnea> nicoleamy: that's a joke, right?
[17:46] <laeg> alt+f1 or alt+ctrl+tab lets me access the top edged panel where i can easily cursor and tab along from the applications all the way to the end where the power button resides but tab and/or cursor are skipping my minimized apps in the system tray, how can i remedy this? also it's not listed in the ubuntu shortcuts
[17:47] <Gnea> !illegal | nicoleamy
[17:47] <nicoleamy> no it isn't a joke
[17:47] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, you want to what?
[17:47] <mudit_> Gnea: i am getting this error >> vigr: Couldn't lock file: Interrupted system call
[17:47] <Gnea> nicoleamy: you're right, it isn't.
[17:47] <sparr> bringatowel: no, i can't
[17:47] <nicoleamy> so its illegal to do that?
[17:47] <krim_> Anyone know how to move a number up or down in OpenOffice? Like say I want to write H2O or cm3 ?
[17:47] <Servarium> yes it is
[17:47] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, to do what?
[17:48] <ganesh> from where can i download ubuntu studio ?(torrent)
[17:48] <Gnea> mudit_: okay, try this one please: sudo visudo
[17:48] <bringatowel> sparr, how come?
[17:48] <sorolop> hello its my first time here can I  ask something?
[17:48] <nicoleamy> kindofabuzz: get into the cmd at school
[17:48] <Nucco> Krim_ use oo math, or subscript. See help
[17:48] <ratpoison> krim_: mark the text, right click and push superscript or subscript
[17:48] <sparr> bringatowel: NAT
[17:48] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, get into the cmd? you mean like telnet into the system or something?
[17:48] <Gnea> nicoleamy: there's a reason certain websites are blocked. you'll have to go elsewhere to view them. we will not help you break your school's policy.
[17:48] <krim_> Nucco: ratpoison: Thanks!
[17:48] <mudit_> lol
[17:49] <nicoleamy> kindofabuzz: yes
[17:49] <magnetron> nicoleamy, Tor or SSH socks tunnels can be used can be used for passing through web proxies and firewalls
[17:49] <bringatowel> ganesh, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[17:49] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, that's called hacking.  this is not a hacking channel
[17:49] <Gnea> magnetron: stop.
[17:49] <mudit_> Gnea: then what ?
[17:49] <nicoleamy> so which one is a hacking channel?
[17:49] <earthling> lol
[17:49] <ksbalaji> Thanks friends and bye!
[17:49] <Gnea> nicoleamy: try asking in #freenode
[17:50] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, i'd say learn linux first before you even think about hacking
[17:50] <Gnea> mudit_: did it open?
[17:50] <ratpoison> hello! fglrx 8.04.1 x86-64 user: Once, my pc crashed and I restarted X. I was "greeted" not by GDM, but by a message from saying "Out of Sync". GDM seems to work perfectly, I just can't see anything. If I type blindly, I can login.
[17:50] <nicoleamy> how do i get into freenode?
[17:50] <kindofabuzz> lol
[17:50] <mudit_> yes
[17:50] <kindofabuzz> troll
[17:50] <earthling> lol
[17:50] <Gnea> nicoleamy: type:  /join #freenode
[17:50] <Sepu> bonsoir
[17:50] <mudit_> it did
[17:50] <nicoleamy> on this chatline
[17:50] <Sepu> dites, vous savez si le directx 10 tourne sous wine?
[17:50] <Gnea> yes.
[17:50] <abchirk> Hm can anyone help me with resolvconf? I have to run /etc/init.d/resolvconf restart that he updates my /etc/resolv.conf. The wlan I start manually... what can I do that he auto updates resolv.conf?
[17:50] <Sepu> enfin si wine gere le dx10
[17:50] <magnetron> !fr | Sepu
[17:50] <Gnea> nicoleamy: they can help you get to where you're going
[17:51] <Sepu> Oups sorry
[17:51] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, you know if you get caught doing that you could be expelled from your school
[17:51] <nicoleamy> so i type that /join #freenode on this chatline?
[17:51] <mudit_> Gnea:  ?
[17:51] <airdog> Need major help!!! i confirmed my problem - ubuntu ics is routing lan ip's over wan causing my ppp connection to drop - details here http://tennessee.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=906126&page=6
[17:51] <Gnea> nicoleamy: for the final time: yes.
[17:51] <soundray> Sepu: I don't think it will, yet
[17:51] <kindofabuzz> and will probably be pretty easy to catch you since you have no idea what to do anyways
[17:51] <nicoleamy> i'm in year 11 and they will never know that will they?
[17:52] <mudit_> i m locked
[17:52] <nicoleamy> kindofabuzz: I'm a year 11 student in school
[17:52] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy is trying to change his grades because he saw it on a movie before lol
[17:52] <soundray> mudit_: if you can't use sudo because of a mistake you've made editing the user configuration, you have to boot in recovery mode and fix it from there
[17:52] <mib_sa5umw> hey, I am having a problem- when I close my laptop lid in 8..04.1, when i reopen it the screen is black bars and red lines, while the mouse just looks like a block of white on all of that, and I can see it move when I move my mouse... so, while I can fix that bigger problem later, what I need to now is how can I hibernate from the terminal in 8.04?
[17:52] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, what does that have to do with anything/
[17:53] <kindofabuzz> ?
[17:53] <nicoleamy> what?
[17:53] <mudit_> i think i can use sudo,
[17:53] <Gnea> nicoleamy: what school is it?
[17:53] <nicoleamy> its a crappy school
[17:53] <Nucco> Nicoleamy: what is the meaning of year 11?
[17:53] <ek> Haha.
[17:53] <mudit_> i am getting this error >> vigr: Couldn't lock file: Interrupted system call
[17:53] <mudit_> when doing sudo vigr
[17:53] <kindofabuzz> Nucco, 11th grade?
[17:53] <nicoleamy> i can't access to the firewall?
[17:53] <mib_sa5umw> I need to know, because I need to see the stuff on my desktop, I just accidentaly closed the screen
[17:54] <Gnea> mudit_: do you get the same error when using the sudo visudo command?
[17:54] <Nucco> Kindofabuzz: i'm not an american :). What age does that imply?
[17:54] <gaintsura> hey all, I just purchased a logitech quickcam 9000 pro, and when I was checking around before buying it, it said linux-uvc would be needed to make it work. Grabbed the latest svn of linux-uvc, make and make install, the only program that recognizes my camera is Cheese, and I get test pattern + static, does anyone have any suggestions, or has anyone worked with this camera before?
[17:54] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:54] <mudit_> nope @ Gnea
[17:54] <mib_sa5umw> so I need to hibernate. I set a hotkey previously for terminal, so I can get past that.... please, I'm desperate
[17:54] <kindofabuzz> Nucco, i don't think nicoleamy is american either
[17:54] <Gnea> mudit_: can you please pastebin the output of this command:  ls -l /etc/group*
[17:55] <mib_sa5umw> -short version: how do I hibernate from terminal in 8.04?
[17:55] <nicoleamy> kindofabuzz: what you mean ubuntu off topic
[17:55] <mudit_> now how to exit out of visudo !
[17:55] <mudit_> i m dumb
[17:55] <airdog> mib_sa5umw: im guessing man shutdown might have answer for u
[17:55] <Joelito> Hi all, I have an EXE file (self-extractor made with Winzip nor Winrar) is it possible to extract its contents on ubuntu?
[17:55] <soundray> nicoleamy: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask your question there
[17:55] <Gnea> mudit_: :q<enter>
[17:55] <Nucco> Kindofabuzz, do i assume that 11 grade is high sch? Senior perhaps?
[17:55] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, it's a channel, right click this and join: #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:55] <nicoleamy> kindofabuzz: how do i take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:55] <Gnea> Joelito: yes, just install wine
[17:55] <kindofabuzz> Nucco, 12th is senior
[17:56] <nicoleamy> ok got ya
[17:56] <Gnea> !wine | Joelito
[17:56] <ek> mib_sa5umw: You could use the 'hdparm' command if you'd like.
[17:56] <mudit_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 932 2008-09-11 21:33 /etc/group
[17:56] <Joelito> Gnea: So, no package in ubuntu? Ok, thanks :)
[17:56] <spiritssight> soundray: can you send me that link again please?
[17:56] <mudit_> that is the out put
[17:56] <mib_sa5umw> airdog: I can't see my screen right now, I'm on a friend's mac asking this question
[17:57] <soundray> !server > spiritssight
[17:57] <airdog> after 7 months of troubleshooting i confirmed my problem - ubuntu ics is routing lan ip's over wan causing my ppp connection to drop - details here http://tennessee.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=906126&page=6
[17:57] <Gnea> Joelito: see the URL that ubottu gave you, it explains it all :)
[17:57] <spiritssight> soundray: thanks very much
[17:57] <mib_sa5umw> I searched, can't find this on google for some reason... seems pretty basic, so I dont know whz this is so difficul
[17:57] <pdj> hi, anyone installed talkd on 8.04?
[17:57] <mudit_> Gnea: the output is >>>  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 932 2008-09-11 21:33 /etc/group
[17:58] <mib_sa5umw> anyone, please, im begging, its very imporant... how do i hibernate in 8.04?
[17:58] <mib_sa5umw> from terminal)
[17:58] <mib_sa5umw> (because i can't see the screen)
[17:58] <ek> mib_sa5umw: man hdparm
[17:58] <Ferchault> hello! A few days ago I was able to read DVD without any problems. Then sometimes errors occurred (vlc and lsdvd and dd were unable to read from the device). I thought it is copy protection. But now I tried a Video-DVD I made. And it does not work. Data-DVD are fully working. Does that mean that my drive is broken?
[17:58] <airdog> mib_sa5umw: pm_hibernate or pm_suspend research google there are tons of articles on it
[17:58] <Gnea> mudit_: yeah i saw it - i'm kinda busy so please be patient
[17:58] <mudit_> oops !
[17:58] <Gnea> mudit_: what about /etc/group-?
[17:59] <mib_sa5umw> ek, i can' look at man pages, Im on a mac and cant see my screen in ubuntu
[17:59] <ek> mib_sa5umw: Man pages are available online though.
[17:59] <mudit_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 932 2008-09-11 21:33 /etc/group
[17:59] <mib_sa5umw> airdog, ic ant find anything for 8.04 on hibernate from terminal
[17:59] <mudit_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 915 2008-07-18 22:01 /etc/group~
[17:59] <mudit_> -rw------- 1 root root 920 2008-08-17 13:41 /etc/group-
[17:59] <mudit_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 932 2008-09-11 21:33 /etc/group.edit
[17:59] <FloodBot1> mudit_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:59] <mudit_> -rw------- 1 root root   5 2008-09-11 21:54 /etc/group.lock
[17:59] <mudit_> i missed the '*'
[18:00] <ek> mib_sa5umw: Depending on the type of hibernate you're looking for, airdog's recommendation might be better.
[18:00] <airdog> you also need to check acpi settings mib_sa5umw
[18:00] <Gnea> !pastebin | mudit_
[18:00] <Nucco> mib_sa5um why do you believe hibernate will solve your problem?
[18:01] <mib_sa5umw> ek, airdog, googling "pm_hibernate 8.04" gives 0 results
[18:01] <carandraug> mib_sa5umw: man hdparm is http://linux.die.net/man/8/hdparm though it seems that getting hibernate working properly is the least of your problems
[18:01] <mib_sa5umw> nucco, it will let me get to the screen again
[18:01] <Gnea> mudit_: yeah, you've got a lockfile there already - looks like your system got turned off while you were editting it
[18:01] <mudit_> i closed the terminal
[18:01] <mib_sa5umw> at least, I think it will. restarting the compouter is the only waz to see the screen again.#
[18:01] <Gnea> mib_sa5umw: try googling this instead:  ubuntu hardy hibernate
[18:02] <airdog> mib_sa5umw:  Results 1 - 10 of about 377,000 for ubuntu man shutdown. (0.21 seconds)
[18:02] <mib_sa5umw> ek, what kind of hibernation is there?
[18:02] <Nucco> mib_sa5umw you've experienced this before? What exactly is the problem?
[18:02] <mudit_> so how do I undo/recover  ?
[18:02] <smm289> ive been messin around with ubuntu, installing different applications just checking stuff out and uninstalling the ones i dont like, do i need to do anyhting to make sure things are clean
[18:02] <ek> mib_sa5umw: Well, I wasn't sure if you simply wanted to spin-up the HDD (Or spin down) or go into (Or come back from) a complete hibernation.
[18:02] <sjea> hi all
[18:02] <mib_sa5umw> Nucco, anytime I close the screen, when I open it again, I get black and red vertical lines, and a mouse tht is just w htie box on the surface of all of that#
[18:03] <mib_sa5umw> ek, I want to power down completelz#
[18:03] <ek> mib_sa5umw: You want to restart the machine?
[18:03] <sjea> how easy is it to open port for torents?
[18:03] <mib_sa5umw> sorrz for the ypos, Im on a dutch keyboard, and its weird....#
[18:03] <carandraug> mib_sa5umw: then "sudo shutdown -h now"
[18:03] <ek> carandraug++
[18:03] <Gnea> mudit_: first of all, make sure it's not already running:  ps axf | grep vigr
[18:03] <sjea> !torrents
[18:03] <soundray> mib_sa5umw: can you switch to a virtual console with Ctrl-Alt-F2 ?
[18:03] <mib_sa5umw> what is the difference between pm_hibernate and shutdown -h?
[18:04] <mib_sa5umw> soundray: I donät think so, let me check again
[18:04] <airdog> mudit google corrupt <name of file> i messed it up the other day you go into grub menu and then have to remount your drive so its not read only
[18:04] <Gnea> mib_sa5umw: man shutdown  and  man pm-hibernate
[18:04] <Gnea> mib_sa5umw: and it's pm-hibernate, not pm_hibernate
[18:04] <carandraug> mib_sa5umw: with hibernate, when you boot next time, it will be as it was before. It copies the RAM to the swap partition and loads it to RAM
[18:04] <salvo> join 1
[18:04] <Nucco> mib_sa5umw is your system set to suspend on when lid is closed.
[18:04] <airdog> guys what is the best place to get in touch with programmers of ics protocols for ubuntu?
[18:04] <airdog> after 7 months of troubleshooting i confirmed my problem - ubuntu ics is routing lan ip's over wan causing my ppp connection to drop - details here http://tennessee.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=906126&page=6
[18:05] <carandraug> mib_sa5umw: with shutdown, it's pretty much the same as restart
[18:05] <mib_sa5umw> ctr alt f4 and others bring up black screen
[18:05] <Gnea> airdog: look for the RFC
[18:05] <airdog> Gnea whats that mean?
[18:05] <soundray> mib_sa5umw: shutdown -h shuts the machine down completely, requiring cold boot. Hibernate means that you save the system state to disk, and resume where you were when you turn it back on.
[18:05] <ek> mib_sa5umw: Just reboot, 'sudo shutdown -r now'.
[18:05] <mib_sa5umw> Nucco, it is not set to suspecnd, it used to, and that caused even more problems
[18:05] <mib_sa5umw> carandraug: i know what hibernate does...
[18:05] <brolly81> i am trying to put the volume down using my hotkeys on my keyboard and it doesnt work.  I have to manually put the volume down on my surround sound in order to dec. or inc. the volume. The volume on 'movie player' does not work
[18:06] <mib_sa5umw> that s why i am tying to find out how to do it
[18:06] <Winston_SmithVT> I have a folder in my trash that I can't delete do to permissions, when I start nautilus with root privs the trash is empty. how do I empty this?
[18:06] <airdog> im googlin it now.... Gnea
[18:06] <mib_sa5umw> Gnea, I cant easily get to man pages right now
[18:06] <Gnea> airdog: well it's going to depend what you mean by ics, too
[18:06] <Gnea> mib_sa5umw: tried googling for it?
[18:06] <mib_sa5umw> ok, i need hibernate, not shutdown.... sounray, thanks for saving me from that...
[18:07] <mudit_> Gnea: this is what i get >>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/45861/
[18:07] <carandraug> mib_sa5umw: It was you who asked the difference between the two. Also, man pages are available oneline. Go here http://linux.die.net/man/8/shutdown
[18:07] <brolly81> but my hotkeys do work for pausing or going to the next track
[18:07] <mib_sa5umw> ek, I don't want to just powerdown, i need to save everything on mzy desktop... wy is this so hard to understand?
[18:07] <soundray> mib_sa5umw: try 'sudo pm-hibernate' then
[18:07] <soundray> mib_sa5umw: because you never bothered to explain
[18:07] <Nucco> Winston_smithVT from the root account, navigate to the user with the thrash folder's home, show hidden files, look for .trash and delete inside it
[18:07] <mib_sa5umw> ok, thanks.
[18:07] <soundray> mib_sa5umw: also, this is unlikely to rescue you (but worth a try, of course)
[18:08] <ek> soundray++
[18:08] <Gnea> mudit_: yeah, looks like you zombied the process when you closed the terminal - it didn't close vigr, so it's still running. try this:  sudo kill 7951
[18:08] <mib_sa5umw> I'll let you guys know how it turns out#
[18:08] <airdog> gnea ics works it just randomly decides to route a lan ip over my wan usualy when i have increased traffic load
[18:08] <laeg> alt+f1 or alt+ctrl+tab lets me access the top edged panel where i can easily cursor and tab along from the applications all the way to the end where the power button resides but tab and/or cursor are skipping my minimized apps in the system tray, how can i remedy this? also it's not listed in the ubuntu shortcuts
[18:08] <Winston_SmithVT> Nucco, I don't have a .trash, i've looked
[18:08] <mib_sa5umw> soundray, what was that?
[18:08] <airdog> Gnea did you look at my forums post? i have six pages of information..
[18:08] <Gnea> airdog: what *is* ics?
[18:08] <airdog> internet connection sharing
[18:08] <soundray> mib_sa5umw: hibernating is unlikely to rescue you (but worth a try, of course)
[18:08] <Gnea> airdog: 'ics' has many definitions in the ubuntu world.
[18:08] <airdog> oh sorry
[18:08] <Bleep> hello
[18:08] <Gnea> airdog: oh ok, so you meant the windows definition. gotcha.
[18:08] <carandraug> Winston_SmithVT: trash folder as moved recently
[18:09] <soundray> mib_sa5umw: I expect it will resume to the same messed-up state that it is in now
[18:09] <airdog> heheh i actually got ics from ubunuts ics tutorial
[18:09] <Nucco> Winston_SmitVT then type su
[18:09] <Gnea> airdog: no big deal :)
[18:09] <Winston_SmithVT> carandraug, I checked /.local/share/Trash nothing in it
[18:09] <soundray> Nucco: please don't recommend su here
[18:09] <smm289> maybe ya did not delete anything ;) :-!
[18:09] <sjea> would some one be willint to help me open port for bittorrents
[18:10] <Nucco> Winston_smitVT SORRY, i'm on a cell phone here. You can use the terminal to delete.
[18:10] <carandraug> Winston_SmithVT: ok. Just in case you didn't knew
[18:10] <nicoleamy> my dad wants to put tomtom home onto ubuntu, is there any chance of doing that?
[18:10] <kindofabuzz> sjea, open them in your router
[18:10] <sjea> or some links im really new to lunus
[18:10] <mudit_> Gnea: i am getting the same output
[18:10] <soundray> nicoleamy: perhaps with wine
[18:10] <sjea> just router i can do that
[18:10] <airdog> after 7 months of troubleshooting i confirmed my problem - ubuntu internet connection sharing is routing lan ip's over wan causing my ppp connection to drop - details here http://tennessee.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=906126&page=6
[18:10] <airdog> there ;)
[18:10] <Falcons_roost> Hello
[18:10] <Gnea> airdog: hrm, perhaps it has something to do with your firewall configuration?
[18:10] <kindofabuzz> airdog, you in TN by any chance?
[18:10] <SurfnKid> hello
[18:10] <Gnea> airdog: dude, you don't need to do that - we got it the first time
[18:10] <sjea> do not need to worrie about port in unbunto ?
[18:10] <airdog> no in colorado
[18:10] <nicoleamy> soundray: right ok, can you tell me the commands that i have to type to get this tomtom home onto the ubuntu desktop?
[18:11] <SurfnKid> what is the best file encryption data-encryption proggy there for linx
[18:11] <airdog> Gnea, i feel its something inside the coding not my config
[18:11] <Winston_SmithVT> carandraug, ya it's odd, my trash that I access by just clicking it from the desktop chows it. But I can't find the files from the command line, or when I'm in nautilus as root.
[18:11] <Gnea> airdog: won't know until you post the firewall config
[18:11] <soundray> nicoleamy: it's not as straightforward as telling you a few commands. You will have to familiarize yourself with wine a bit
[18:11] <airdog> i have tried guide + guard dog , firestarter , and just plain masqing with out a firewall
[18:11] <soundray> !wine | nicoleamy
[18:11] <mudit_> Gnea: i m not able to kill the process !
[18:12] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, tomtom is a piece of hardware. i doubt the software is open source
[18:12] <gaintsura> airdog: I don't mind guarddog, its pretty straight forward
[18:12] <carandraug> Winston_SmithVT: are the files hidden? If you try ls in the terminal, it won't show them
[18:12] <soundray> kindofabuzz: he said Tomtom Home, that's software
[18:12] <airdog> gaintsura: i have no problem gettin guarddog to work its just randomly routes a lan ip over the wan network
[18:12] <Nucco> Winston_smitVT i mean type sudo chown user.user then drag and drop the troublesome folder in the terminal. User.user is your username
[18:12] <Gnea> mudit_: then try:  sudo kill -9 7951
[18:12] <Winston_SmithVT> carandraug, Ya I tryed ls -a still didn't see anything in the trash
[18:12] <kindofabuzz> oh
[18:13] <nicoleamy> kindofabuzz: so can i download it on ubuntu
[18:13] <Gnea> mudit: ?
[18:13] <soundray> nicoleamy: when you've read the help page that ubottu gave you, insert the Tomtom Home CD, find the installer program and run it with wine.
[18:14] <laeg> opened pidgin and then when it didn't work i looked in prefs.xml and list_visible is set back to 0
[18:14] <mudit>  Gnea : it worked now !
[18:14] <kindofabuzz> nicoleamy, does it have a linux version?
[18:14] <laeg> wc
[18:14] <laeg> alt+f1 or alt+ctrl+tab lets me access the top edged panel where i can easily cursor and tab along from the applications all the way to the end where the power button resides but tab and/or cursor are skipping my minimized apps in the system tray, how can i remedy this? also it's not listed in the ubuntu shortcuts (i have no mouse and can't access apps that start minimized)
[18:14] <Gnea> mudit: :D
[18:14] <mudit> Gnea: i get this >>  9784 pts/1    S+     0:00      \_ grep vigr
[18:14] <airdog> is thre a better flavor of linux then ubuntu for nat? would even kubuntu be better?
[18:14] <Winston_SmithVT> Nucco, ok, one sec
[18:14] <soundray> kindofabuzz: no, there is no Tomtom Home for Linux yet -- waiting for it myself ( nicoleamy)
[18:14] <nicoleamy> no
[18:14] <Gnea> mudit: okay, try to run vigr again
[18:15] <hwilde> [69486.326312] BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 11s! [wpa_supplicant:4379]
[18:15] <nicoleamy> tomtom home only have the windows version
[18:15] <carandraug> Winston_SmithVT: have you looked for the files in /root/.Trash and /root/.local/share/Trash ? In case they exist
[18:15] <RandomNuB> hello all :D
[18:15] <soundray> nicoleamy: and Mac OS
[18:15] <mudit> i get the same attention now !
[18:15] <RandomNuB> how can I install the compiz manager?
[18:15] <mudit> that a swap file exists and blah blah
[18:15] <Gnea> nicoleamy: you may need to recompile
[18:15] <nicoleamy> recompile?
[18:15] <Gnea> !compiz | RandomNuB
[18:15] <nicoleamy> how do i do that?
[18:15] <airdog> nicoleamy: you only need tomtom home once in a great deal of time, i suggest the hassle might not be worth the use
[18:16] <sjea> !ports
[18:16] <Gnea> nicoleamy: you'd need to install the source
[18:16] <soundray> Gnea: recompile? You didn't mean nicoleamy did you
[18:16] <carandraug> RandomNuB: search for ccsm in add/remove...
[18:16] <sjea> !firewall
[18:16] <Gnea> soundray: pm?
[18:16] <RandomNuB> Well someone gave me an easy command to put into the terminal and it worked :D
[18:17] <Falcons_roost> I have mx 400 video card 32 meg that worked just fine in this installation however even with the opengl and 3d acceleration working it was not strong enoughtorun EVE online so I thought . installed a radeon 9000 and could not get driver decetion working tried synaptic and was unseccessful installing new driver. I put the other video card in and downloaded the latest driver recommended . But when i reboot it comes up sayin
[18:17] <Falcons_roost> g running in low graphics mode even though the driver says it is working. What do i do?
[18:17] <soundray> Gnea: okay
[18:17] <Winston_SmithVT> Nucco, space or no space user.user or user .user , both don't work user.user chown throws an error user .user says no file or dir
[18:17] <mudit> Gnea:  ?
[18:17] <martelm404> I've got a quick stupid question.  I'm running 8.04 x64. When I try and add more than 4gb's of memory to my machine, it panics with an early exception rip at startup.  I found some sites online that indicate the Ubuntu can only see 4gb's unless you use a special kernel.  Any thoughts ? Thanks!
[18:17] <Winston_SmithVT> carandraug, No i'll look now
[18:17] <nicoleamy> what kind of source do i need?
[18:18] <mudit> Gnea: this is what i am getting now >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/45865/
[18:18] <erUSUL> Winston_SmithVT: chown user:group whatever
[18:18] <Falcons_roost> !restore
[18:18] <Nucco> Winston_smitvt, replace user in that statement with your username, both before and after the dot.
[18:18] <unavailable> getting <unknown program name>(7546)/: Communication problem with  "ktorrent" , it probably crashed.
[18:18] <unavailable> Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" "  when i run ktorrent