[07:57] <samster34> well, none of the distros I've tried boot
[07:57] <Jibgilmon> did you setup grub?
[07:58] <gvo> alex_under so you need to read a file and create 4 new files comprised of some fixed characters merged with the contents of each line?
[07:58] <samster34> I can't run them from the live cd
[07:58] <samster34> I dont even get to installing it
[07:58] <Jibgilmon> oh
[07:58] <Jibgilmon> are you on windows?
[07:58] <alex_under> gvo: yes
[07:58] <samster34> on here, yes, on there, no
[07:58] <Jibgilmon> what are you on on there?
[07:58] <samster34> no OS on the other comp
[07:58] <Jibgilmon> oh so you're going form the ios
[07:58] <gvo> I'd suggest you use either a bash script or perl.
[07:59] <Jibgilmon> bios*
[07:59] <alex_under> gvo: a_%string1%.rtf b_%string1%.rtf c_%string1%.rtf d_%string1%.rtf etc.
[07:59] <gvo> How many lines in the file?
[07:59] <Talisman`Work> samster34 does the CD/DVD boot?
[07:59] <Jibgilmon> may i suggest making a boot usb with tuxboot on windows
[07:59] <alex_under> 27 ( 27 strings)
[07:59] <Jibgilmon> and trying to boot from that
[07:59] <samster34> Talisman`Work: no luck with the one dvd I have burned, the USB sticks boot to the menu fine though
[07:59] <almoxarife> samster34: Jibgilmon: be pals and take your conversation to off-topic, thnks
[08:00] <alex_under> gvo: 27 * . That'll be like 104 files
[08:00] <Jibgilmon> okidoki
[08:00] <gvo> It would be faster to do it manually.  Writing a script of any kind would take longer if you're not a programmer.
[08:00] <samster34> almoxarife: but I'd like to stay on-topic :/
[08:00] <Talisman`Work> samster34 then you will need to change your bios settings to boot from the CD/DVD
[08:01] <alex_under> gvo: isn't there like a bash command?
[08:01] <samster34> Talisman`Work: not it, it does boot from the dvd, it just doesnt get to the menu.it freezes and does nothing
[08:01] <Talisman`Work> No one to help on my 3G issue?
[08:01] <gvo> alex_under: Not a single command, no.
[08:01] <alex_under> gvo: I see..
[08:02] <gvo> alex_under: that's a task for a script/program
[08:02] <Dogears> bluefrog: I now have it running from the main HD with the broken Ubuntu from the terminal
[08:03] <alex_under> gvo: thanks anyway
[08:03] <gvo> alex_under: np
[08:03] <gvo> Dogears: Plug the usb drive into the system.
[08:03] <Dogears> bluefrog: When I cp -r /home/user/* /media/  - I get a cannot create ... readonly file system?
[08:04] <gvo> is the usb drive mounted?
[08:04] <Dogears> gvo: Yes Have done that.
[08:04] <danielcg25> Jibgilmon: thanks
[08:04] <Jibgilmon> no problem, good luck
[08:04] <gvo> type "mount" and see what it says
[08:05] <gvo> Dogears: Is the usb drive on sdb1?
[08:05] <Dogears> gvo: No it is not mounted only sda1
[08:06] <gvo> Dogears: So you didn't mount the usb drive
[08:06] <gvo> type "dmesg | tail -22
[08:06] <Dogears> gvo: No
[08:07] <gvo> Dogears: you should see a line that looks like       [1400130.487607]  sdd: sdd1
[08:09] <Dogears> gvo: sdb1 is listed
[08:09] <gvo> ok now try mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[08:10] <gvo> You need to be root to do these commands.
[08:11] <bluefrog> Dogears, have you used sudo in front of the command?
[08:11] <damascene> Hi, I'm the operator on ubuntu-l10n-ara mailing list. I'm unable to reset the password. everything I know is https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/admindb/ubuntu-l10n-ara which leads to now where.
[08:11] <nibbler_> i've got a root server running ubuntu LTS - just figured out that the promised (soft) raid is not real, sdb is completely unused. so i'm in the process of converting this - what would be the method of choice, lvm or md?
[08:13] <bluefrog> nibbler_, lvm on top of md
[08:14] <nibbler_> bluefrog, thats better than a lvm-mirror? okay
[08:14] <bluefrog> nibbler_, lvm-mirror? don't know this
[08:15] <kanupatar> Hi all, I am using ubuntu 11.10 , how can i configure proxy in it for commandline
[08:15] <kanupatar> ?
[08:15] <Dogears> gvo: Yes used sudo mount /dev/sdb1/ mnt and the message was fuse: mount failed : Device or resource busy
[08:16] <seekwill> kandinski: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Squid ?
[08:16] <mandira> hiiiiiiii
[08:16] <gvo> fuse?
[08:17] <gvo> type mount and post the output line for /dev/sda1
[08:17] <bluefrog> nibbler_, lvm-mirror looks like a raid1 like setup.
[08:17] <curiousx> salut a tout le monde
[08:18] <kanupatar> Hi all, I am using ubuntu 11.10 , how can i configure proxy in it for commandline
[08:19] <Talisman`Work> kanupatar In Gentoo, you would use      export http_proxy="http://<username>:<password>@<server>:<port>"
[08:19] <Talisman`Work> I don't know if that would work for ubuntu
[08:19] <Talisman`Work> try it
[08:20] <gvo> Talisman`Work: Bask, ksh, sh and dash, yes.  csh, no.
[08:20] <Dogears> gvo: /dev/sda1 on / type ext4(rw,errors=remount-ro, commit=0)
[08:20] <nibbler_> bluefrog, thats why i'm not sure which path to go - lvm mirror normally wants 3 physical volumes, but i'd assume it gives same security as mdadm with 2
[08:20] <Talisman`Work> gvo ty
[08:21] <gvo> Dogears: Did you see a /dev/sdb1 listed?
[08:21] <kanupatar> Talisman`Work: I have already given like  export ftp_proxy=http://renjithg:xxxx@@<IP_ADDRESS>:3128/
[08:21] <Talisman`Work> you need the ""
[08:21] <Dogears> gvo: No
[08:21] <kanupatar> Talisman`Work: sorry http_proxy
[08:21] <Talisman`Work> you still need the ""
[08:22] <gvo> Dogears: how many lines did you see?
[08:22] <gvo> Dogears: did you do sudo mount /dev/sdb1/ mnt ?  If so that's wrong.
[08:22] <gvo> Dogears: you need to mount on /mnt not mnt
[08:23] <kanupatar> Talisman`Work:you mean export http_proxy="http://renjithg:xxxx@@<IP_ADDRESS>:3128/"
[08:24] <gvo> Talisman`Work: kanupatar You might want to have only one @ sign
[08:24] <kanupatar> gvo: unfortunately my password ends with @ :(
[08:25] <bluefrog> nibbler_, what's the server for? high availability? lots of people on it?
[08:25] <gvo> kanupatar: Hm, that may give you problems.  It might have to be escaped.
[08:25] <Dogears> gvo: I used the /mnt and got the fuse: error. There were 8 extra lines under the sdb1 line but nothjing about sdb1
[08:25] <kanupatar> gvo: ohh really ?
[08:25] <gvo> kanupatar: Not positive but probably
[08:26] <nibbler_> bluefrog, my mail system, and some webservices, all private use
[08:26] <gvo> Dogears: I have no idea what's gong on.
[08:26] <gvo> going
[08:26] <Dogears> gvo: Thanks
[08:26] <bluefrog> nibbler_, whatever then. the one you like
[08:26] <nibbler_> heh okays ;-)
[08:26] <gvo> Dogears: so boot your live cd and we'll go from there.
[08:27] <kanupatar> Talisman`Work: gvo renjithg@renjithg:~$ sudo apt-get update [sudo] password for renjithg:  Err http://security.ubuntu.com oneiric-security InRelease
[08:27] <bluefrog> nibbler_, http://deranfangvomende.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/linux-lvm-mirroring-comes-at-a-price/
[08:27] <gvo> Dogears: What live cd are you using?
[08:27] <bluefrog> nibbler_, http://adminsgoodies.com/lvm-mirroring-vs-raid1/
[08:27] <Dogears> gvo: 11.10
[08:27] <gvo> Dogears: OK that'll work.
[08:27] <bocah_linuxers> Hello
[08:28] <Talisman`Work> gvo you had any experience with 3G built-in modules on laptops?
[08:28] <gvo> Talisman`Work: Didn't even know they existed.
[08:29] <gvo> Talisman`Work: What's the problem?
[08:29] <Dogears> gvo: I need to go home. I will take the hard drive home and jump back on from there.
[08:29] <gvo> Dogears: OK
[08:29] <Dogears> gvo: Thanks for your help
[08:29] <Talisman`Work> gvo I'm simply trying to connect to the 'net using my 3G module.
[08:29] <gvo> Dogears: np
[08:29] <Talisman`Work> it starts a connections and then tells me "you're not connected"
[08:29] <gvo> Talisman`Work: does Linux even see the module?
[08:30] <kanupatar> In my ubuntu 11.10 , I cannot see the wireless options in the netwotk side
[08:30] <Talisman`Work> gvo yes, and I've got the connection set up etc.
[08:30] <papi> df
[08:30] <papi> fdhdfjnfd
[08:30] <papi> ola amor
[08:30] <papi> follamos
[08:30] <FloodBot1> papi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:31] <papi> un poco o ke
[08:31] <papi> a lo bn amorcito rico
[08:31] <kanupatar> In my ubuntu 11.10 , I cannot see the wireless options in the netwotk side
[08:31] <gvo> Talisman`Work: so what happens?
[08:32] <gvo> Talisman`Work: does ifconfig show the connection?
[08:33] <Talisman`Work> Well, I click the Network "Triangle" on the top menu, find my connection and click it.  The triangle changes to that wireless network icon and then after a few seconds it pops up a small dialogue telling me I'm not connected.
[08:33] <gvo> kanupatar: Not surprisingly.  wireless is something ubuntu doesn't do well.
[08:33] <Talisman`Work> gvo no, because it doesn't connect.
[08:33] <gvo> Talisman`Work: but your connection shows up in network manager?
[08:34] <gvo> Talisman`Work: Try ifconfig -a and see if you don't see something.
[08:35] <gvo> Talisman`Work: Does the 3g connection require a user/password to work?
[08:35] <Talisman`Work> gvo not in my case - only an APN
[08:35] <gvo> Talisman`Work: what is an APN?
[08:35] <Talisman`Work> gvo I've got 4 network devices with ifconfig - eth0, lo, wlan0 and wwan0
[08:35] <Talisman`Work> gvo Access Point Name
[08:36] <Talisman`Work> I'm assuming that wwan0 is my 3G
[08:36] <gvo> Talisman`Work: OK wwan0 is probably it.  Where did you configure the APN?
[08:36] <danielg25> If I put my "server" (really just a computer with ubuntu that I'm using as a server) in the DMZ on my router, can I use Desktop Sharing just by entering my home's external IP address in a remote desktop client? (when I'm not at home)
[08:37] <Talisman`Work> in the 'Network Connections' dialogue
[08:37] <Talisman`Work> vgo ^
[08:37] <Talisman`Work> hehe.. gvo ^
[08:38] <danielg25> Basically, what do I need to do to use Desktop Sharing over the Internet? It works within my home network right now.
[08:38] <Talisman`Work> gvo it's listed under Mobile Broadband
[08:38] <gvo> Talisman`Work: Hm, I assume you've researched the web?  You might try finding your device with lspci and search for the device id on the net.
[08:38] <kanupatar> In my ubuntu 11.10 , I cannot see the wireless options in the netwotk side
[08:39] <gvo> Talisman`Work: Other than that I can't give much help.
[08:39] <Talisman`Work> gvo aye, I have - the device is an Ericsson but I've found no documentation on my broadband provider relating to that device.
[08:39] <gvo> kanupatar: does ifconfig -a show the wlan0 device?
[08:39] <kanupatar> gvo: yep
[08:40] <Talisman`Work> gvo thanks for the attempt :-)
[08:40] <gvo> Talisman`Work: np
[08:40] <ledzep> hello i am using ubuntu 12.04..I am new to ubnuntu as well as linux . CAN anybody help me???
[08:40] <kanupatar> gvo: sorry NO
[08:40] <kanupatar> gvo: but iwconfig will show the wlan0
[08:40] <gvo> kanupatar: ifconfig -a should show all devices.
[08:41] <danielg25> ledzep: I don't KNOW, but I am WONDERING why you like to capitalize random WORDS.
[08:41] <Talisman`Work> gvo just for completeness, the actual Ubuntu message was "Disconnected - you are now offline"
[08:41] <gvo> kanupatar: at least it does at 10.04
[08:41] <gvo> Talisman`Work: That's helpful.  :)
[08:42] <Talisman`Work> gvo rofl, ikr :-D
[08:42] <ledzep> danielg25 i did it
[08:42] <gvo> kanupatar: and iwconfig doesn't show an IP address I assume.
[08:42] <danielg25> ledzep: you did what?
[08:43] <ledzep> danielg25 : nothg
[08:43] <KainWu> so many guys here..lol
[08:43] <Talisman`Work> gvo tail syslog tells me "GSM connection failed: (32) Busy"
[08:44] <danielg25> What do I need to do to use Desktop Sharing over the Internet? It works within my home network right now.
[08:45] <kanupatar> gvo: yes
[08:45] <danielg25> I want to connect to my desktop when I'm not home over the internet
[08:45] <kanupatar> gvo: no ip addres details on iwconfig
[08:46] <kanupatar> gvo: is there any third party wireless tools for ubuntu 11.10 for dell lattitude D430 ?
[08:46] <gvo> Talisman`Work: this may or may not help https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/modemmanager/+question/111615
[08:46] <gvo> kanupatar: wicd is usually better than network manager for wireless connections.
[08:46] <Talisman`Work> gvo looking
[08:47] <kanupatar> gvo: is there any download link ?
[08:47] <gvo> Talisman`Work: not an answer per se but might give you a hint.
[08:47] <gvo> kanupatar: apt-get install wicd
[08:48] <kanupatar> gvo: unfortunately i cannot install via commandline due to proxy issues :(#
[08:49] <Talisman`Work> gvo tyvm
[08:49] <gvo> kanupatar: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[08:50] <gvo> Talisman`Work: np
[08:50] <kanupatar> gvo: thanks ..but no downoad link
[08:50] <gvo> kanupatar: Huh?
[08:51] <gvo> kanupatar: click on the download tab.
[08:51] <bluefrog> danielg25, you need to do some NAT in your adsl box
[08:51] <kanupatar> gvo: ok ok
[08:51] <szal> kanupatar: what's a proxy got to do w/ cmdline or not cmdline?
[08:53] <kanupatar> szal: I have a proxy server at <IP_ADDRESS> ...I have full access via browser...but commandline failes to get the same
[08:54] <gvo> kanupatar: I take it the export didn't work?
[08:55] <kanupatar> gvo: NO
[08:55] <kanupatar> Talisman`Work:you mean export http_proxy="http://renjithg:xxxx@@<IP_ADDRESS>:3128/"
[08:55] <gvo> kanupatar: try escaping the first @ sign
[08:55] <danielg25> bluefrog: I don't have ADSL, I have a DSL modem and a Belkin router.
[08:56] <kanupatar> gvo: that is my password's last letter :(
[08:56] <gvo> kanupatar: I know, try escaping it.
[08:56] <gvo> kanupatar: put a backslash in front of it.
[08:56] <bluefrog> danielg25, you need to forward port from dsl modem (or router, or both) to your puter
[08:57] <kanupatar> Talisman`Work:you mean export http_proxy="http://renjithg:xxxx@\@<IP_ADDRESS>:3128/"
[08:57] <bluefrog> danielg25, and you'd better learn about ssh tunneling and use vnc IN ssh. then you only need to forward port 22
[08:57] <danielg25> the modem doesn't have a firewall or even a config page so it shouldn't be a problem. What ports need to be forwarded?
[08:57] <gvo> danielg25: Is your dsl modem set to passthru mode?
[08:57] <Talisman`Work> kanupatar yes
[08:58] <danielg25> I have no idea, but it sounds like it
[08:58] <Talisman`Work> kanupatar you must also use ftp_proxy="http://renjithg:xxxx@\@<IP_ADDRESS>:3128/"
[08:58] <gvo> kanupatar: no you escaped the wrong one.
[08:58] <kanupatar> gvo: ????
[08:58] <samster34> heya, I was finally able to install ubuntu by installing windows then installing through wubi, then starting the installed ubuntu to finish the install in "acpi workaround" mode...this is the only time I've been abel to get to the ubuntu desktop, so I guess once it's done installing, I should mess around with acpi boot options?
[08:58] <gvo> kanupatar: the first @ sign.  not the second one.
[08:59] <gvo> Talisman`Work: For apt-get, you only need http_proxy
[08:59] <kanupatar> gvo: you mean export http_proxy="http://renjithg:xxxx\@@<IP_ADDRESS>:3128/"
[09:00] <gvo> kanupatar: Yes.
[09:00] <yellabs-r2> how can i use evince to show an pdf slideshow ?
[09:00] <crashanddie> Hi, trying to upgrade from Natty to Oneiric. I'm getting "E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." However, apt-get autoremove, doesn't change anything, nor does apt-get -f. This is the apt log from the upgrade tool: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=e0krQALw
[09:00] <kanupatar> gvo: no ude
[09:01] <kanupatar> gvo: no use
[09:01] <kanupatar> gvo: same as before
[09:01] <gvo> kanupatar: Try using single quotes rather than double.
[09:01] <gvo> the shell might be in the way.
[09:02] <crashanddie> @ is not a special character in shells
[09:02] <kanupatar> gvo: no use either
[09:02] <bluefrog> danielg25, then you may have to tweak your belkin router. right now it seems that desktop sharing is not accessible from the internet to your puter
[09:02] <gvo> crashanddie: I know it's not but bash might strip the backslash out.
[09:03] <gvo> kanupatar: I suggest you change your password and see if that helps.
[09:04] <danielg25> bluefrog: What ports does Desktop Sharing use?
[09:04] <kanupatar> gvo: ok..i will ask the IT support guy to reset my password..also i have one question, Where can I see the 'System' Tab in my ubundt 11.10 ?
[09:05] <kanupatar> I have installed the gnome-panel
[09:05] <bluefrog> danielg25, vnc I think so 5900 and/or 5800
[09:05] <gvo> kanupatar: I've never seen 11.10.
[09:05] <gvo> kanupatar: Can't help with that.
[09:05] <crashanddie> kanupatar, are you trying to access the web interface of your router?
[09:05] <bluefrog> danielg25, but not a good idea to do so
[09:05] <bluefrog> danielg25, use ssh tunneling
[09:05] <danielg25> why?
[09:05] <kanupatar> crashanddie: no
[09:06] <danielg25> I have a password on the Desktop Sharing, is it still not a good idea?
[09:06] <bluefrog> danielg25, passwords can be read very easily
[09:06] <gvo> danielg25: vnc isn't very secure.
[09:06] <danielg25> Oh :(
[09:06] <kanupatar> gvo: please advice me..i am fully down with this ubuntu 11.10 machine
[09:06] <danielg25> Well how do I do the SSH thing?
[09:06] <danielg25> SSH tunneling
[09:06] <gvo> kanupatar: I can't help you with 11.10, sorry.
[09:06] <bluefrog> danielg25, http://members.shaw.ca/nicholas.fong/vnc/
[09:07] <gvo> danielg25: and don't put your system in the DMZ, leave it behind the firewall.
[09:07] <kanupatar> gvo: any one else/
[09:07] <kanupatar> ?
[09:07] <danielg25> ok
[09:07] <bluefrog> danielg25, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[09:07] <pkt> what is an "IMS Hit" exactly? (in apt logs)
[09:08] <scriptwarlock> hello any ideas if shutdown and reboot inside /sbin has the same function?
[09:08] <scriptwarlock> sorry wrong question
[09:08] <scriptwarlock> hello any ideas if shutdown and poweroff inside /sbin has the same function?
[09:08] <danielg25> bluefrog: I will be using a Mac to connect to the desktop at my house, will that matter?
[09:08] <bluefrog> danielg25, no
[09:09] <danielg25> Ok, thanks
[09:09] <danielg25> I'll check back if I have any questions
[09:09] <pkt> scriptwarlock: I think "shutdown" is more "gentle" than poweroff
[09:09] <pkt> poweroff is a symlink to "reboot" btw
[09:10] <scriptwarlock> pkt, i cant find shutdown anymore only poweroff
[09:10] <gvo> shutdown has always been the preferred way.
[09:11] <userfriendly> is there a program / command that lets me have a message pop up on the local screen of a machine to which i connect via ssh?
[09:11] <gvo> shutdown is in /sbin
[09:11] <Jibgilmon> goodnight everyone, thanks for the help!
[09:11] <drounse> 4
[09:11] <drounse> hi
[09:11] <scriptwarlock> gvo, not here
[09:12] <gvo> userfriendly: if you connect via ssh -X or ssh -Y then you can run an x windows program that displays back on your monitory.
[09:12] <pkt> scriptwarlock: which version?
[09:12] <gvo> scriptwarlock: what OS?
[09:12] <gvo> scriptwarlock: that too.
[09:12] <scriptwarlock> 12.04
[09:12]  * bluefrog test
[09:12] <pkt> Here in 12.04 there is /sbin/shutdown
[09:12] <bluefrog> pouet
[09:13] <scriptwarlock> wait lemme check
[09:13] <pkt> scriptwarlock: it is provided by "upstart" package fwiw
[09:13] <pkt> so if you deleted it for some reason, try reinstalling upstart
[09:13] <userfriendly> gvo: we're speaking about the same monitor, yes?
[09:13] <userfriendly> i mean the remote one
[09:14] <scriptwarlock> pkt, yeah saw it darn no sleep
[09:14] <Talisman`Work> gvo oh foo... it seems to be that my built-in 3G module is not supported
[09:14] <scriptwarlock> thanks guis
[09:14] <Talisman`Work> but my external 3G usb module is... I'm connected now.
[09:14] <gvo> Talisman`Work: Not surprising.
[09:14] <Talisman`Work> yeh.
[09:15]  * Talisman`Work will have to look for Ericsson drivers I suppose, gvo
[09:15] <gvo> userfriendly: the remote one is going to be difficult.
[09:15] <gvo> Talisman`Work: call Ericsson :)
[09:15] <userfriendly> gvo: it's like this - i'm on a windows box here(sadly), connecting to a remote linux box with ssh -Y, running x apps works fine etc. - on that remote linux box now there is a different user logged on, using the local display, and to that person i want to send a message on their screen.
[09:16] <drounse> what is a mysql server
[09:16] <userfriendly> there used to be a similar little thing on the windows platform, can't remember its name...
[09:16] <userfriendly> was just wondering if the *nix world had something similar
[09:17] <gvo> userfriendly: maybe xtalk?
[09:17] <Boreeas> userfriendly: It's net send / msg on windows, I think
[09:17] <gvo> Talk works for terminal users.
[09:18] <userfriendly> thanks guys :) i'll take a look at that
[09:19] <crashanddie> Hi, trying to upgrade from Natty to Oneiric. I'm getting "E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." However, apt-get autoremove, doesn't change anything, nor does apt-get -f. This is the apt log from the upgrade tool: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=e0krQALw
[09:19] <gvo> drounse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MySQL
[09:20] <drounse> gvo ive read that, i just dont quite understand, i undersatnd a file server- it serves files, mail servers- for email, i just dont get what mysql is
[09:21] <gvo> mysql is a database server.
[09:21] <AdvoWork> drounse, MySQL is a RDBMS, read database management system running as a "server"
[09:22] <gvo> drounse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_server
[09:22] <drounse> AdvoWork ok thank you
[09:24] <dime01> hi
[09:24] <dalek_> Help! Why won't certain commercial DVDs play when others do? I am getting "could not read from resource"... ?
[09:24] <scriptwarlock> hello again wew it seems chmod 7755 /sbin/shutdown cant completely power down ubuntu
[09:25] <scriptwarlock> hello again wew it seems chmod 7755 /sbin/shutdown(remote shutdown) cant completely power down ubuntu
[09:25] <Nintendo> @find Ubuntu for Android
[09:26] <Nintendo> #find ubuntu for android
[09:26] <popey> Nintendo: #ubuntu-phone
[09:26] <geirha> scriptwarlock: Change the mode to 755 and run it as root
[09:26] <dime01> I need to mount a network drive, which is under samba, could someone give me an example of the line I have to put in fstab ? I don't know where I have to set the password
[09:26] <dime01> I write this line for the moment : //<IP_ADDRESS>/Files	/media/Files	smbfs	netdev,gid=100,uid=1000,umask=002,username=myName,iocharset=utf8   0     0
[09:27] <scriptwarlock> geirha, ok let me trry
[09:27] <dime01> How can I add the password in this line ?
[09:27] <geirha> dime01: Don't use smbfs, use cifs
[09:27] <Braap> scriptwarlock: poweroff   might not need root
[09:27] <geirha> dime01: and  man mount.cifs  explains the options you can use
[09:28] <dime01> geirha Why ? smbfs isn't for samba ?
[09:28] <scriptwarlock> Braap, i was testing the remote shutdown and reboot with this app we made
[09:28] <geirha> dime01: cifs is the "new" smbfs
[09:28] <Nintendo> @FloodBot1
[09:28] <crashanddie> Hi, trying to upgrade from Natty to Oneiric. I'm getting "E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." However, apt-get autoremove, doesn't change anything, nor does apt-get -f. This is the apt log from the upgrade tool: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=e0krQALw
[09:29] <dime01> geirha Ok but it seems that I don't have cifs in my system
[09:29] <antonio_> for some reason the sound in my system is SUPER quiet
[09:29] <dime01> geirha : no manual when I type in man mount.cifs
[09:29] <SunTsu> crashanddie: do you use do-release-upgrade for upgrading?
[09:29] <antonio_> I can barely hear anything
[09:29] <dime01> geirha : whereas man mount is working
[09:30] <drounse> after the commandline whats the next layer? is it the wm or the de?
[09:30] <crashanddie> SunTsu, I've tried both, the regular update manager and do-release-upgrade
[09:30] <geirha> dime01: Have you install the package named smbfs?
[09:30] <SunTsu> antonio_: tried pavucontrol to correct the sound level?
[09:30] <SunTsu> crashanddie: do-release-upgrade is the way to go
[09:30] <scriptwarlock> geirha, this what it says "halt need to be root
[09:30] <dime01> geirha : no, Im installing it
[09:31] <crashanddie> SunTsu, sorry, maybe I wasn't clear, it doesn't change a damned thing.
[09:31] <gvo> dime01: http://www.manpagez.com/man/8/mount.cifs/
[09:31] <dime01> geirha : right, mount.cifs is working now
[09:31] <SunTsu> crashanddie: watch your language, please
[09:31] <crashanddie> die in a fire.
[09:32] <dime01> gva : Thks for the doc, but using this method does it works when computer restart ?
[09:32] <antonio_> suntsu: never before now...what do I do with this program
[09:32] <antonio_> ?
[09:32] <ryannathans> is infiniband natively supported?
[09:33] <SunTsu> antonio_: well, run it, you'll see
[09:33] <scriptwarlock> anymore ideas on why remote shutdown in ubuntu wont completely power down using chmod 7755 or 775 sbin/shutdown
[09:33] <gvo> dime01: If you put it in fstab, sure.
[09:33] <ryannathans> scriptwarlock: run as asudo
[09:33] <gvo> scriptwarlock: I'm not aware of the chmod command causing any change to the state of the systme.
[09:34] <dime01> gva ok
[09:34] <gvo> as ryannathans says, you gotta be root to run the shutdown command.
[09:34] <scriptwarlock> gvo, this is a remote app im using and since 8.04 its working this way
[09:35] <gvo> OK so you're setting suid?
[09:35] <scriptwarlock> gvo, was buffled currently why it wont work anymore on ubuntu 11.10/12.04
[09:35] <Jordan_U> scriptwarlock: You should pretty much never make any file which isn't already setuid, setuid.  What happened? I just get "could not read from resource" now. What am I missing?
[09:36] <gvo> I"m guessing suid might have been disabled in later distros.
[09:36] <Rourick> hi all, new here just came from win7 was curious is there software like ccleaner for linux? or do i not need anything...thanks
[09:36] <gvo> Rourick: what's ccleaner?
[09:36] <scriptwarlock> Jordan_U, setuid any links how i do it
[09:36] <Rourick> it cleans files, temp, it's a system cleaner
[09:37] <gvo> scriptwarlock: I agree with Jordan_U
[09:37] <gvo> Rourick: Not really necessary in Linux land
[09:37] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: did you try sudo shutdown now;
[09:37] <Rourick> gvo ok thanks
[09:37] <dalek_> I used to be able to play DVD discs from ANY regionin Ubuntu, now it seems it won't play nearly all my DVDs
[09:38] <antonio_> the one thing I despise about ubuntu is how bad the sound system is
[09:38] <drounse> does anyone know how to adjust the resolution?
[09:39] <dime01> gva, ok this command is working : sudo mount.cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/Files /media/Files/ -o username=myUsername
[09:39] <dime01> after Im typing my password
[09:39] <dime01> Now how can I set it in fstab ?
[09:39] <dime01> I mean the line I have to add in fstab ?
[09:39] <dalek_> how do I find out if my DVD drive has been set to a region?
[09:40] <antonio_> how the hell do you get sound to work in ubuntu
[09:40] <antonio_> you plug in a usb headset and it messes everything up!
[09:40] <gvo> dim//ntserver/docs /mnt/samba      cifs   username=docsadm,password=D1Y4x9sw
[09:41] <gvo> dime01: //ntserver/docs /mnt/samba cifs username=docsadm,password=D1Y4x9sw
[09:41] <gvo> For example
[09:41] <dime01> gvo ok thks I try it
[09:41] <drounse> i need the refresh rate on my monitor to be 60Hz but xubuntu only says 51.0Hz
[09:41] <gvo> Well add a 0  0 to the end.
[09:41] <dime01> with netdev ?
[09:41] <dalek_> how do I set my DVD drive to region 0? regionset only appears to allow 1-8 as choices
[09:41] <gvo> dime01: ?
[09:42] <dime01> gva : Do I need to add the netdev option ?
[09:42] <ryannathans> is infiniband natively supported?
[09:42] <dime01> gva : Ive seen that on the net
[09:42] <scriptwarlock_> sacarlson, sudo shutdown still not power down
[09:43] <gvo> dime01: I don't know.
[09:43] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock_: does the system halt when that is run?
[09:43] <gvo> Just try it.
[09:43] <scriptwarlock_> sacarlson, nope
[09:43] <ryannathans> scriptwarlock_: what doesn't shutdown?
[09:43] <ryannathans> scriptwarlock_: does sudo reboot work?
[09:43] <ryannathans> scriptwarlock_: what flags are you passing shutdown?
[09:43] <scriptwarlock_> sacarlson, but pressing shutdown button works
[09:44] <antonio_> this is driving me nuts!
[09:44] <gvo> dime01: umount the device if it's mounted, add to fstab and try a mount /mnt/samba or wherever you pointed the entry in fstab.
[09:44] <antonio_> I unplugged my usb headset and it froze my computer!
[09:44] <antonio_> how can I diagnose my sound problems?
[09:44] <ryannathans> antonio_: install latest drivers for your audio card/chip and header
[09:44] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock_: are you running sudo shutdown now;  in a term?
[09:44] <ryannathans> headset
[09:44] <scriptwarlock_> sacarlson, yes
[09:45] <ryannathans> scriptwarlock_: logs?
[09:45] <gvo> scriptwarlock_: shutdown -h now??
[09:45] <scriptwarlock_> sacarlson, it goes blackscreen and nothing happens
[09:45] <scriptwarlock_> gvo, same
[09:45] <antonio_> ryannathans: would I need to bother with drivers for my card if I'm using a usb headset?
[09:45] <dime01> gva Ok thks
[09:45] <scriptwarlock_> sacarlson, let me check the logs
[09:45] <gvo> scriptwarlock_: as root?
[09:45] <antonio_> besides...10 minutes ago everything was fine
[09:45] <scriptwarlock_> gvo, yes
[09:45] <ryannathans> antonio_: so what did you change?
[09:45] <gvo> scriptwarlock_: strange.
[09:46] <antonio_> nothing
[09:46] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock_: with no results at all ?  you did have to enter your sudo password also if asked
[09:46] <ryannathans> antonio_: well then you've always had the problem
[09:46] <ryannathans> if it keeps happening look for drives
[09:46] <ryannathans> antonio_: if all else fails, get logs and submit bug report
[09:46] <antonio_> ryannathans: I didn't change anything...I was editing some audio and then boom
[09:46] <scriptwarlock_> sacarlson, yes, but recently i chmod 7755 the shutdown
[09:47] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock_: oh so you didn't use sudo then?
[09:47] <dalek_> I've never had to use regionset before. I've always been able to play all my DVDs from any region. What's gone wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/881618/
[09:47] <scriptwarlock_> sacarlson, i use sudo
[09:48] <Jordan_U> scriptwarlock_: sudo chmod 0755 /sbin/shutdown
[09:48] <dalek_> help - http://paste.ubuntu.com/881618/ why am I getting "could not read from resource" all the time now?
[09:48] <scriptwarlock_> Jordan_U, k will try
[09:48] <sgo11> Hi, how to check an installed package's dependencies? eg: which packages depends on this package? which packages does this package depend on? thanks.
[09:48] <Jordan_U> scriptwarlock_: Like I said earlier, whatever else happens, you should not make files setuid root.
[09:48] <scriptwarlock_> Jordan_U, let me first find the logs it can help
[09:49] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock_: you might try sudo poweroff
[09:49] <llutz> sgo11: apt-cache depends/rdepends packagename
[09:49] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:50] <sgo11> llutz, got it. thanks a lot for the help.
[09:52] <scriptwarlock_> be right back
[09:53] <dalek_> I used to be able to play DVD discs from ANY regionin Ubuntu, now it seems it won't play nearly all my DVDs
[09:53] <dalek_> help - http://paste.ubuntu.com/881618/ why am I getting "could not read from resource" all the time now?
[09:53] <Talisman`Work> ciao
[09:53] <antonio_> argh
[09:56] <antonio_> seriously
[09:56] <dalek_> I used to be able to play DVD discs from ANY regionin Ubuntu, now it seems it won't play nearly all my DVDs
[09:56] <dalek_> help - http://paste.ubuntu.com/881618/ why am I getting "could not read from resource" all the time now?
[09:57] <Jordan_U> dalek_: Region should not matter in Ubuntu, and you should be careful since with many drives there are a limited number of times that you can change the region. Could you pastebin the output of "dmesg"?
[09:57] <ikonia> 3 is the normal for region changes
[09:58] <mulberry> I am trying to launch a program in a full sized window from the main menu but I am having trouble can anybody please help?
[09:59] <mulberry> ^^^ a full sized terminal window
[09:59] <darkcry> hallo
[09:59] <borik> hello
[09:59] <borik> hallo
[10:00] <dalek_> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/881626/
[10:00] <antonio_> god
[10:00] <sacarlson> dalek_: In most computer drives, users are allowed to change the region code up to five times.[11]  If the number of allowances reaches zero, the region last used will be  permanent even if the drive is transferred to another computer.
[10:00] <antonio_> I HATE sound on linux
[10:01] <Anomie21> Can Ubuntu not write to a Mac OSX? (Trying to copy files onto one of apples time capsules and it's producing an error)
[10:01] <dalek_> What does "[ 1396.622576] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Media region code is mismatched to logical unit region" mean?
[10:01] <SunTsu> antonio_: congrats on your detailed and constructive criticism
[10:02] <antonio_> suntsu: there is no explanation for sound working one minute...then being super quiet the next
[10:02] <antonio_> I didn't change anything
[10:03] <SunTsu> antonio_: well, lots of sources can change your volume
[10:04] <antonio_> this is so damn frustrating
[10:04] <dalek_> Jordan_U, I recently had to replace the DVD drive on this laptop... I don't think I'd played DVDs on it since the new drive was installed. It is a brand new drive. Could this be why I can't play DVDs anymore?
[10:04] <antonio_> ugh
[10:06] <scriptwarlock> Jordan_U, confirmed terminal shutdown not working but cog>shutdown working
[10:06] <mulberry> ok so far in the launcher I have: "gnome-terminal --geometry=132x43+0+0 && gtypist" but all I get is a large empty terminal.
[10:08] <Jordan_U> mulberry: That command says to launch gnome-terminal with a specific geometry, but without any specific command. Then run gtypist, without any controling terminal for gtypist at all.
[10:08] <SunTsu> antonio_: this channel is about solving problems and support, not about letting out your frustration. If you want to find out what's going on somebody may be willing to help, but cursing won't get you anywhere
[10:08] <Jordan_U> mulberry: gnome-terminal --geometry=132x43+0+0 --command=gtypist
[10:09] <mulberry> yesssss it works!!!! thank you very much Jordan_U
[10:09] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, still no luck
[10:10] <Jordan_U> mulberry: You're welcome.
[10:10] <fdssdfs> buenos dias
[10:10] <Jordan_U> scriptwarlock: What is the output of "sudo shutdown -h now"?
[10:10] <Anomie21> Can Ubuntu not write to a Mac OSX? (Trying to copy files onto one of apples time capsules and it's producing an error)
[10:10] <fdssdfs> como estas
[10:11] <fdssdfs> sup
[10:11] <Jordan_U> Anomie21: Linux cannot write to journaled hfsplus, no.
[10:11] <sacarlson> dalek_: you can set your dvd regon code with sudo regionset see lower in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[10:12] <scriptwarlock> Jordan_U, the usual thing system down for maintenance or something like that which is normal but after a blackout it did nothing
[10:12] <antonio_> suntsu: sorry...was just frustrated
[10:12] <antonio_> found out something was turning alsa down
[10:12] <Jordan_U> scriptwarlock: Please pastebin the exact output.
[10:12] <antonio_> Now I'm trying to get jack to work
[10:12] <Anomie21> :(
[10:12] <Guest73702> helloo
[10:12] <Guest73702> mens
[10:12] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: how about sudo halt ; ?
[10:13] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: you sure the user is a sudo user?
[10:13] <scriptwarlock> Jordan_U, k or should i transfer to another room because im using 12.04 :)
[10:13] <Anomie21> Why don't Linux/MacOSX/Win all stick to one format that is R/W compatible for each machine :/
[10:13] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, yes
[10:13] <dalek_> sacarlson, regionset doesn't work - see http://paste.ubuntu.com/881618/
[10:13] <Jordan_U> scriptwarlock: You should have been in #ubuntu+1 from the start, yes.
[10:13] <sacarlson> dalek_: you need to install it as shown in the link
[10:14] <Anomie21> What's the easiest way to move 30GB from a Ubuntu PC to a MacBook?
[10:14] <borik> hallo
[10:14] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, k going but this was also the case of remote shutdown to one of my 11.10 machine
[10:14] <fdssdfs> i guess
[10:14] <sacarlson> dalek_: also you need to have one of the disks of interest in the drive when you run it
[10:14] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, same problem with my 11.10
[10:15] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, what log type am i going to hunt for shutdown problems in log
[10:15] <Jordan_U> Anomie21: Either using samba file sharing over the network or using an external drive formatted fat32 (readable and writeable in linux) or ntfs (easily readable and writable in linux, easily readable in OSX, and writeable in OSX as well with a little effort).
[10:15] <borik> I have a question, Is somebody of you using silc on ubuntu 11.10
[10:16] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: I would think /var/log/system
[10:16] <borik> ??
[10:16] <vyrgozunqk> hey guys anyone seen any MATE repo for 12.04 precise ?
[10:17] <dalek_> sacarlson, regionset is installed, and the DVD was in the drive - still did not work.
[10:17] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, going to ubuntu+1
[10:17] <fdssdfs> unity is nice,why use mate
[10:17] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: you have ssh into the remote to try to shut it down?  does it shutdown at it's own console?
[10:17] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, terminal no but cog shutdown is fine
[10:18] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: what is cog? a user?
[10:18] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, aw i mean this gear icon top right
[10:18] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, sorry not clear
[10:18] <vyrgozunqk> fdssdfs, because i don't like the way it works
[10:19] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: ok the graphic shutdown
[10:19] <vyrgozunqk> it might be pretty but its not user oriented
[10:19] <PrawnSandwich> \exit
[10:19] <vyrgozunqk> its slowing me down
[10:19] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, :) sorry kinda tense
[10:19] <josep> hi
[10:19] <vyrgozunqk> so i need mate : )
[10:20] <darkcry> please help me out
[10:20] <vyrgozunqk> there is a working repo for 11.10 but still not for 12.04, at least i havent found it
[10:20] <vyrgozunqk> ...
[10:20] <darkcry> backtrack
[10:20] <dalek_> sacarlson, I don't think regionset will work because I am telling it to set region to 0. From the UI for regionset, it looks like setting region 0 is impossible anyway (options only show region 1 to 8)
[10:21] <fdssdfs> 12.04 is great
[10:21] <darkcry> ubuntu\
[10:21] <sacarlson> dalek_: just stick the dvd you want to play in the drive and run it,  isn't that all that is needed?
[10:21] <darkcry> how about linux mint...
[10:22] <dalek_> sacarlson, that is the WHOLE problem.. I can't. I just keep getting "could not read from resource" now.
[10:23] <josep> yes
[10:23] <sacarlson> dalek_: but the disk stays in the drive doesn't it?  any results from regionset when the disk in present in the drive when run?
[10:23] <borik> exit
[10:23] <dalek_> sacarlson, I have DVDs from almost every region... they all used to play just fine in ubuntu. I used to be able to just insert the disc and play, as you described... now something has changed, and that no longer works.
[10:24] <crashanddie> Hi, apologies if I offended anyone earlier, I'm sorry -- frustration got the best of me.
[10:24] <dalek_> sacarlson, what do you mean? I can't run regionset if there is no disc in the drive... there is always a disc in the drive when I run regionset
[10:24] <sacarlson> dalek_: some dvd's won't allow setting to mode 0, so I guess you'll be stuck picking one that it will allow
[10:26] <dalek_> sacarlson, I have a DVD which is region 0... even when I inser that in the drive, I still can't set region to 0 with regionset
[10:26] <sacarlson> dalek_: or find the dvd hack code to reflash the firmcode of your dvd
[10:27] <sacarlson> dalek_: as I said some dvd won't allow region 0 seting
[10:27] <dalek_> sacarlson, is there any way to see which (if anything) region my drive is set to?
[10:27] <crashanddie> I'm trying to upgrade from Natty to Oneiric. I'm getting "E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." However, apt-get autoremove, doesn't change anything, nor does apt-get -f. This is the apt log from the upgrade tool: http://pastebin.com/tfrN31e1 I've tried using the Update Software tool and sudo do-release-upgrade, both fail with the same error.
[10:28] <vyrgozunqk> crashanddie, try to manually remove broken packages from synaptic
[10:28] <vyrgozunqk> ...
[10:28] <crashanddie> vyrgozunqk, ok, but which ones?
[10:29] <gvo> I think dpkg -l give status info, does that include the broken status?
[10:30] <sacarlson> dalek_:  your drive drive plays discs from region(s):, mask=0xFF
[10:30] <dalek_> what is 0xff?
[10:30] <gvo> crashanddie: Try dpkg -l and look for packages with something other than ii in the first two columns.
[10:31] <vyrgozunqk> crashanddie, in synaptic there is a section for broken packages, remove all of them
[10:31] <gvo> dalek_: 255
[10:31] <vyrgozunqk> ok i have to go
[10:31] <Anomie21> Anyone know why 'Split into volumes of' is greyed out when I'm trying to compress? Do I need to install something else before that'll appear? Not having much luck with google
[10:31] <dalek_> gvo, that's what I thought.. but 255 isn't a region.....
[10:31] <gvo> dalek_: It's probably a mask.
[10:31] <sacarlson> dalek_: I guess it's bit format  each bit is allow or disalow so ff would be all 8 bits
[10:32] <fdssdfs> does anyone know if the ath9k wireless problem is being worked on?
[10:32] <fdssdfs> it got marked " solved" by using a USB dongle on laptops with the chipset
[10:32] <fdssdfs> which is not a solution
[10:32] <dalek_> sacarlson, so would that mean it is set to region 8, or region 0?
[10:33] <sacarlson> dalek_: I guess it's eather all or none,   not sure that a bit set means enable or disable
[10:33] <crashanddie> gvo, some packages are marked as removed with residual configuration, that's all.
[10:34] <gvo> crashanddie: That's not very helpful, is it?
[10:34] <crashanddie> gvo, sorry?
[10:34] <gvo> crashanddie: Just a comment.
[10:35] <dalek_> does anyone else here have a DVD drive that plays DVDs from all regions? if so, what does regionset tell you your drive is set to?
[10:35] <bratanon> Hi, it is possible to add files in /etc/resolver that works as "addons" to the /etc/resolv.conf like in OSX?
[10:35] <crashanddie> gvo, would you like the list of packages that aren't "ii"?
[10:35] <gvo> crashanddie: No, that status isn't anywhere broken.
[10:35] <crashanddie> gvo, FWIW, synaptic reports 0 packages broken
[10:36] <gvo> crashanddie: That's no help either.
[10:36] <crashanddie> I'm not used to synaptic, however, it does show a list of packages that aren't installed, but are from "local" origin. When I right click, I can mark them for "complete removal", however I have no idea how to apply that "complete removal"
[10:37] <dalek_> I just can't understand why I can't play DVDs any more. I've never had this problem in Ubuntu before I replaced my DVD drive. I've always been able to just install the requisite stuff and all my discs would play. This is frustrating
[10:38] <crashanddie> I can't help but notice this line in the apt.log: Reinst Failed early because of linux-image-3.0.0-17-generic:amd64
[10:38] <dalek_> Help! My problem - can no longer play DVDs after new DVD drive replaced. "Could not read from resource" error. How do I fix?
[10:39] <gvo> crashanddie: Are you currently running a 64 bit kernel?
[10:39] <crashanddie> gvo 2.6.38-13-generic x86_64
[10:40] <endstille> hello, is anyone able to use btrfs-tools (for example btrfsck or resize) on an LZO-compressed parition? with recent precise build?
[10:40] <gvo> crashanddie: OK I suspect the "broken" messages have nothing to do with your existing packages.
[10:40] <dalek_> I've so far got nowhere. I have everything installed that I need to play DVDs yet still they will not play. Error "could not read from resource" persists.
[10:40] <sacarlson> dalek_: http://linvdr.org/projects/regionset/  for a bit more info,  also did you try play your dvd with other programs like vlc ?
[10:40] <gvo> crashanddie: It's more like the upgrade has issues.
[10:40] <silv3r_m00n> is it ok to upgrade ubuntu online , instead of a fresh install ?
[10:41] <gvo> silv3r_m00n: sometimes.
[10:41] <gvo> crashanddie: I'd advise a fresh install.
[10:41] <silv3r_m00n> and what happens at other times ?
[10:41] <crashanddie> silv3r_m00n, I've been upgrading all my machines online for quite some time, this is the first time I'm stuck.
[10:41] <OerHeks> dalek_, try an other dvd, some dvd's will never play with css.
[10:41] <crashanddie> silv3r_m00n, the upgrade doesn't happen.
[10:41] <gvo> silv3r_m00n: You have problems like crashanddie has
[10:41] <gvo> silv3r_m00n: It doesn't work.
[10:41] <silv3r_m00n> crashanddie: what happened ? I am on 11.04 and planning to move to 11.10 , did you face the same thing
[10:42] <dalek_> sacarlson, yes, tried VLC, xine, everything... all either fail to put ANYTHING up or report a similar error "could not read from resource"
[10:42] <silv3r_m00n> gvo you mean it stops working after the upgrade ?
[10:42] <gvo> No it means it doesn't upgrade.
[10:42] <dalek_> OerHeks, all these DVDs played fine in the past in Ubuntu.
[10:42] <silv3r_m00n> crashanddie: I mean were you on the same version ?
[10:42] <gvo> silv3r_m00n: the upgrade fails.
[10:43] <crashanddie> silv3r_m00n, yeah, I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04, 10.10 and finally 11.04 yesterday, that went fine. Today I tried going from 11.04 to 11.10, and it basically refuses to do the upgrade
[10:43] <silv3r_m00n> crashanddie: is everybody facing the same problem ?
[10:43] <crashanddie> silv3r_m00n, nope
[10:43] <silv3r_m00n> oh great
[10:43] <crashanddie> I must be one of the lucky few.
[10:43] <silv3r_m00n> sure , I will try it now
[10:43] <gvo> I normally do a fresh install rather than an upgrade.
[10:44] <silv3r_m00n> I too , but now I have lots of data , can't clean partitions everytime , have been doing all this since long time , now want to go easy
[10:44] <gvo> It's cleaner and avoids incompatibility issues.
[10:44] <gvo> Give it a try, but back up your important data.
[10:45] <dalek_> aaaaarrghh!!!! I don't know what I did, but now xine WILL play DVDs but nothing else will... about an hour ago when I came in here xine was not working either...
[10:45] <crashanddie> gvo, the reason I've been reluctant to do a fresh install is that this is a company-provided computer. There is no /home partition (everything on /), and I don't have enough HD space to back everything up.
[10:45] <gvo> I typically mount /home on a separate partition and don't reformat that.
[10:45] <gvo> crashanddie: usb drive?
[10:46] <waxstone> fresh installs are always recommended over upgrades (if possible!) especially across major versions i.e. 10.x --> 11.x -->12.x
[10:46] <crashanddie> gvo, I could, potentially, resize the current / partition, install the new distribution on whatever space I have available (something like 80GB), and then change the old partition to become my /home.
[10:47] <gvo> That would work but be sure to back up before resizing.
[10:47] <gvo> I had resize break a partition one time.  Just once was enough.
[10:47] <crashanddie> I hear you
[10:47] <dalek_> nope... I spoke too early. xine does not work either. For some reason the DVD copyright plays then it dies with a new error "error reading nav packet"
[10:48] <crashanddie> One thing's for sure though, if I do a fresh install, I'm going for mint :P
[10:48] <crashanddie> Anyway, thanks for the help everyone.
[10:48] <gvo> I have mint 12 on two systems.
[10:48] <sacarlson> crashanddie: in the future on a system like that maybe try lvm partitions that allow dynamic size changes
[10:48] <gvo> My netbook and another server.
[10:49] <dalek_> I don't get it. VLC, Totem and Xine ALL used to be able to play any DVD.... now I get partial playback from Xine and nothing from anything else :(
[10:49] <crashanddie> gvo, I have mint 11 on my home server, I've been waiting for MATE to become a bit more stable before throwing 12 on it. It finally seems usable, so I'll go for that.
[10:49] <dalek_> who can help me get my DVD playback working again?
[10:51] <gvo> crashanddie: It's working well for me.  I really only use the netbook actively.  The server just sits there and runs programs/backups etc.
[10:53] <sacarlson> dalek_: maybe it just a set of bad dvd disks,  I lost alot my my dvd when my room got too how and they become unreadable with bubles seen under the surface
[10:53] <sacarlson> to hot
[10:54] <dalek_> sacarlson, the DVDs are all good. They all play on my multiregion DVD player on the TV and my other ubuntu desktop box.
[10:55] <sacarlson> dalek_: ok that proves that's wrong then
[10:55] <sacarlson> dalek_: take the dvd reader back since you just got it
[10:55] <dalek_> sacarlson, I am sure it has got to be connected with replacing the DVD drive in this laptop.
[10:59] <dalek_> sacarlson, I don't know if I can. It came from Toshiba spare parts supply Australia. (empr or something)
[10:59] <timkuijsten> what's up with the mysql-server upgrade from last night? it looks like it's breaking permissions..
[11:01] <hoshi411_> what makes ubuntu so slick that it mounts my partitions and makes them accessable to me by default while opensuse kde will not let even an admin account access them O_o
[11:03] <dalek_> sacarlson, ok.. I've decided to risk it and use regionset to set the drive's region to region 2... and now. region 2 DVDs play, but none of my other region DVDs play... and I can only change the region 4 more times.... Why does regionset have NO option to choose region 0?
[11:06] <sacarlson> dalek_: it's part of the firmware in the dvd,  it's all about the movie makers not wanting there movies copied and shiped overseas
[11:07] <dalek_> How do I reset my DVD drive's firmware?
[11:08] <mi3> HI!
[11:09] <dalek_> Is there an easy way to see what model number my DVD drive is through ubuntu without having to unscrew the machine and read the label?
[11:10] <cornerse> dalek_: try lspci.
[11:10] <cornerse> or lsmod.
[11:10] <mi3> When I run the rss scripts in conky, after a few minutes,  this error shows up on my terminal and the rss windows disappear, here is the paste http://pastebin.com/pdXamSac any suggestions?
[11:10] <deployment> anyone help me with ODBC to MySQL, remote workstation . connection Failed:[HY000][MySQL][ODBC 5.1 Driver]
[11:12] <plouffe> dalek_, http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/100352.aspx
[11:15] <alturic> hey all, is there a "compatability" list someone on the ubuntu site/forum thats regularly updated? im wondering if my raid chipset/wireless usb adapater will work on ubuntu
[11:15] <hoshi411_> so im thinking just tar my windows and mbr partitions , reformat the drive and make several partitions and then untar windows andthe mbr back on..... sound good?
[11:22] <iceroot> hoshi411_: waht about dd?
[11:23] <AminosAmigos> hello
[11:23] <iceroot> deployment: maybe #mysql
[11:24] <deployment> iceroot: ta
[11:25] <sacarlson> dalek_: and I found there is a program in linux to flash dvd http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=45559
[11:26] <dalek_> sacarlson, thanks... and I found my drive is a Matshita DVD-RAM UJ-820S but have so far been unsuccessful in finding a copy of the firmware to download
[11:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> Hi
[11:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> gnome-panel is taking 2gb (56%) of my memory
[11:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> i can see this with ps -aux
[11:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> ubuntu 11.10
[11:29] <WhereIsMySpoon> anyone got any idea why
[11:29] <hoshi411_> iceroot:  if i used dd, i would need the exact same size parititon to restore it on right
[11:29] <iceroot> WhereIsMySpoon: yes its a high value but you know this? http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[11:29] <iceroot> hoshi411_: correct
[11:29] <sara2010> any one help me
[11:29] <iceroot> hoshi411_: maybe clonezilla can resize it while making a dump
[11:29] <iceroot> !ask | sara2010
[11:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> iceroot, that would be fine if my computer wasnt actually slow
[11:30] <sara2010> i m trying to use d-link pci wireless card .. but its not working !
[11:30] <iceroot> !wifi | sara2010
[11:30] <iceroot> sara2010: maybe there is something usefull for you on your issue
[11:31] <scriptwarlock> Jordan_U, sudo shutdown -h now is working so i guess this is not ubuntus issue anymore. so chmod thing is a serious mess? so i can change my reply post in the forum
[11:32] <sara2010> iceroot,  .. there is no driver for DWA-525
[11:33] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson,  sudo shutdown -h now is working so i guess this is not ubuntus issue anymore. so chmod thing is a serious mess? so i can change my reply post in the forum
[11:33] <sara2010> iceroot,  in controller   showing     5:09.0 Network controller: RaLink Device 3060
[11:34] <iceroot> sara2010: but there should be a driver for that
[11:34] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: so if you reset the chmod it then works?
[11:34] <iceroot> sara2010: sounds like a common card
[11:34] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: I didn't tell you to chmod as part of my line.  did you add it anyway?
[11:35] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson,  yes
[11:36] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, is adding that certain app to the group is fine?
[11:36] <sara2010> iceroot,  . there is no common card !
[11:36] <Foo32856> Hello
[11:36] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: you can add it to a user with limited sudo to allow them to shutdown
[11:36] <Foo32856> I've got a computer with noveau drivers, but I want to install the prorpietary nvidia drivers.
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Foo32856: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[11:37] <Foo32856> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:38] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, still figuring out how to do this
[11:39] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: you want a user to remote in and shutdown without a password I guess?  or do you need a group of users with this ability?
[11:40] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, this app i'm using has the feature to remote shutdown and reboot dunno why in the first place they allow to chmod 7755 those
[11:41] <sara2010> iceroot,  ? waiting
[11:41] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: ok so is it run from only one system to one user?  or does it already work now and we are done?
[11:42] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, yes
[11:43] <dalek_> I have discovered that the whole problem is impossible and my DVD drive is basically screwed when it comes to playing DVDs. DVD playback on this laptop is simply no longer an option. :(
[11:43] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, ah this is a cyber shop of mine and using some cyber cage management tools that has the feature of remote shutdown. so i guess i wont use the chmod 7755 anymore
[11:44] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, *cyber cafe
[11:44] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: I"m not sure "yes" is an answer to my question so I'll assume it's the last and that it works and we are done
[11:45] <dalek_> when you've been in this channel for over 3 hours and tried everything 10 times over, it's time to quit. There is no solution. Thanks to everyone who tried to help, but this is getting nowhere fast.
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> dalek_  life's a struggle
[11:46] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, yes still looking some workaround but the best thing for now is to bring this to the app developer so he can done some pathches or whatever solutions for this. big thanks to you and everyone.
[11:48] <newb_> People, I need help with schroot. I have Apache installed there, but my session isn't persistent
[11:48] <newb_> It's like Apache starts and the session end, and apache is stopped again
[11:48] <newb_> If I login at chroot and start apache, all works, but if I exit, it's like I logout the entire system and shutdown it...
[11:49] <ikonia> newb_: why have you chrooted apache ?
[11:49] <ikonia> newb_: when you exit the chroot, your shell running inside the chroot will be terminated
[11:51] <teel> i did update-grub with os_prober from ubuntu, but my windows xp partition is not bootable! when i look into grub.cfg he found it on the wrong disk! (just my external hdd for storage) so i tried editing the set root=(/dev/sdb,msdos1) but it wont help :/ my windows xp is on sda2 how do i make it work?
[11:51] <SunTsu> newb_: chroot() has no notion of "sessions" - it's a process attribute
[11:57] <newb_> ikonia, SunTzu: I have Apache running PHP 5.2 at main system, I needed a fast way to start another Apache session running PHP 5.3 (and a lot of other different support) at same server. I used schroot to do this, then. Now I need this start at boot with the server. For no I'm doing this manually... :(
[11:58] <newb_> ikonia, SunTzu: Start Apache at boot starts and kill the Apache proccess, and manually start isn't a good option for me
[11:59] <newb_> ikonia, SunTzu: Do you have another idea to have this working at schroot?
[12:04] <zykes-> to add a upstart job
[12:04] <zykes-> isn't it enough to add a /etc/init/x.conf and a symlink ?
[12:05] <broglin> my computer had a usb key plugged in and was rebooted. now it's not mounted. i only have CLI access. How can I remount it?
[12:05] <broglin> (CLI access over ssh)
[12:06] <[[thufir]]> I'm having trouble with RVM.  It installed, and I even compiled ruby.  However, I don't seem to "have" ruby.  how do I know that it's actually compiled correctly?
[12:06] <gvo> broglin: can you remove and reinstall it?
[12:06] <broglin> gvo: no, the machine is 5km away
[12:07] <gvo> broglin: OK then dmesg | more and find what device the usb drive has become.
[12:07] <gvo> broglin: then mount manually
[12:07] <gvo> broglin: are you sure it's not mounted?
[12:07] <broglin> gvo: yeah
[12:08] <gvo> ok do the dmesg|more
[12:08] <broglin> gvo: what do i look for there?
[12:09] <broglin> gvo: oh, i think i have it
[12:09] <broglin> [    5.567495] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] 7831552 512-byte logical blocks: (4.00 GB/3.73 GiB)
[12:09] <gvo> Right the next line might be more useful.
[12:10] <gvo> [1400130.487607]  sdd: sdd1
[12:10] <gvo> Something like that one.
[12:10] <broglin> gvo: [    5.568257] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
[12:10] <broglin> ?
[12:10] <gvo> It's a few more lines down.
[12:10] <lars__> I'm going nuts here. Could someone please give me a hand making ssh with an eToken work?
[12:11] <gvo> see if there is a sdc: sdc1 or something similar.
[12:11] <broglin> gvo: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc did the job :-)
[12:11] <broglin> gvo: yay, it works now. thanks for the help!
[12:11] <gvo> np
[12:15] <MeirD> Hey, I am taking an OS course and I am trying to understand how mutex is implemented in linux. Is it hardware/software implementation? I know it can be achieved with TLS (which is hardware) but then the "enter routine" in assembly is software (which casues busy waiting).. kind of confused here
[12:17] <Aphox> oi
[12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> hi i went afk, i have a problem where if i run ps -aux i can see gnome-panel is using 56% of my %mem, and my pc is also really slow to start up new apps, e.g. a new terminal takes 10-15 seconds to be completely ready with a prompt
[12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> anyone got any idea about why this is happening?
[12:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> im running 11.10
[12:22] <moth3r> Hi, is there a way to install this theme on Ubuntu 12? http://nale12.deviantart.com/art/OMG-Suite-288398137 Thx!
[12:22] <iceroot> moth3r: #ubuntu+1
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> guys, the Flash video on this local newssite won't play in Firefox or Chromium, adblocker is disabled -- it plays perfectly in windows -- hints & tips?
[12:24] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: Sure it's Flash? It might be plain media embed
[12:24] <uni4dfx> How do I enable crontab? I've added a minute rule but it does not get executed even though cron is running..
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> theadmin  properties: SWF
[12:25] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: I see, hm, uh. What does it do at all? Black screen? Or something more senseful?
[12:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> uni4dfx, try grepping the output of CRON process in syslog
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> theadmin  white rectangle, no error messages
[12:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> if it's returning anything other than 0 then somethings going wrong
[12:26] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: Seen Flash do that yeah, not sure what causes it :/
[12:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, did you see my problem i posted up a few mins ago?
[12:26] <uni4dfx> WhereIsMySpoon you're right. It's crapping out Authentication failure errors
[12:26] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: I do... Well, gnome is very memory consuming indeed, altough thismuch is sort of weird
[12:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> uni4dfx, :)
[12:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, i did a small check with dding from /dev/zero to a file on my /home/blah and i got horrible speed results
[12:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> it really is an issue
[12:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> and as i said, a terminal window can take up to 15 secs to load
[12:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> from click to prompt
[12:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, anything you can help me with?
[12:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> or should i try asking on askubuntu
[12:31] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: Meh I dunno. If it's just gnome-panel, can you try some other desktop maybe, and if that fixes it, see if you can report a bug
[12:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, i am running xfce on a box with the exact same setup
[12:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> and it is a lot faster
[12:32] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: If it's general slowness and appears in desktops other than gnome, I tend to think it's some driver issue.
[12:32] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: Hm, so just gnome then? Well... Report a bug I suppose. I dunno what else to do here
[12:32] <MagePsycho> how to find the error_log file in my server via ssh???
[12:33] <Whiskey> when you do apt-get install can you specefi whitch version you will have of the soft? if its more then 1 versiona aviable?
[12:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, link?
[12:33] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: Nuh-uh, run "ubuntu-bug gnome-panel"
[12:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh
[12:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> thats nice
[12:33] <sacarlson> MagePsycho:  cd /var/log ; ls
[12:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, that doesnt tell them what the problem is though
[12:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> and it doesnt fix my problem
[12:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> =/
[12:34] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: It will ask you for a description at a later stage.
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh i see
[12:35] <MagePsycho> sacarlson: i didn't saw any apache error log there
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, in a popup?
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> or how
[12:35] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: So just enter it, hope they notice it and...
[12:35] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: It will open a browser window (given you have a browser installed, if not it will fail)
[12:35] <sacarlson> Whiskey: some apps may have more than one version in a repository and there are options called pinning  if you wish to select one
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, automatically at some point?
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> or what
[12:35] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: Well did you run the command?
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> yes
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> it popped up a thing
[12:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> which was just an error report
[12:35] <Whiskey> kk
[12:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> then it said send
[12:36] <FloodBot1> WhereIsMySpoon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> that was it
[12:36] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: Well if you click "Send" or whatever a browser window should pop up, but if you're on a slow setup, well, expect slowness xD
[12:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> >_>
[12:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, no browser window popped up and i have ff and chromium installed
[12:36] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: Weird...
[12:36] <theadmin> It's supposed to at least :/
[12:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh wait
[12:36] <sacarlson> MagePsycho: did you try cd /var/log/apache2 ; ?
[12:36] <WhereIsMySpoon> chrome has a launchpad tab
[12:37] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: Yeah that should be it
[12:37] <MagePsycho> sacarlson: there is no any apache2 folder in var/log
[12:37] <MagePsycho> sacarlson: there is dir like: samba ngnix etc
[12:38] <sacarlson> MagePsycho: if you don't see the /var/log/apache2 ; directory I guess you don't have apache2 installed on a ubuntu system
[12:40] <uni4dfx> Interesting. CRON does not work until you set a root password. Ubuntu could've mentioned this somewhere...
[12:40] <Pici> uni4dfx: cron definitely works without a root password set.
[12:40] <MagePsycho> /etc/httpd/logs/error_log ?
[12:41] <uni4dfx> Pici nope, fresh install, did not work until i set a root password
[12:41] <Pici> uni4dfx: I've done many Ubuntu installs, none of them with the root password set, and most use custom crontabs.
[12:42] <uni4dfx> Pici well looks like you haven't done enough of them
[12:42] <Pici> uni4dfx: Can you perhaps explain why it wasn't working without a password set?
[12:43] <uni4dfx> Pici It was spewing out Authentication failure errors until the second I ran sudo passwd root
[12:43] <Pici> uni4dfx: In root's crontab?
[12:43] <sacarlson> MagePsycho: I don't see any dir on my ubuntu 10.04 in /etc/httpd ; maybe you installed apache2 in some customized manner other than with ubuntu packages
[12:43] <uni4dfx> Pici Yes
[12:44] <theadmin> uni4dfx: Please note that for root you may not use "sudo crontab -e" or anything. You have to edit /etc/crontab, it should not need any password set or anything
[12:44] <Pici> theadmin: sudo crontab -e works just fine for me.
[12:44] <MagePsycho> sacarlson: how to know if php is running in apache server or else?
[12:44] <arch_adam> how do i configure postfix to send outgoing mail
[12:45] <theadmin> Pici: Oh, huh. Does it open /etc/crontab (or, that is, save to it after editing the temporary file?)
[12:45] <onosendi> exit
[12:45] <Pici> theadmin: no, it saves to root's crontab in /var/spool/cron/
[12:45] <theadmin> Pici: Ah, okay, huh. Still weird why would anything need a password.
[12:45] <Pici> theadmin: agreed.
[12:46] <Pici> uni4dfx: I'd be really curious to see why it would need a password.  I may be doing a new Ubuntu virtual install here soon, so I'll give it a look when I get the chance.
[12:46] <sacarlson> MagePsycho: make a file in your apache2 /var/www space with <?php phpinfo(); exit(); ?>
[12:48] <MagePsycho> Server API 	FPM/FastCGI
[12:48] <MagePsycho> so now where could be the error logs
[12:48] <PiranahOT> Question: SMB share setup however when users access the only get read and write options no delete. any ideas ?
[12:49] <WhereIsMySpoon> PiranahOT, do they have access to delete?
[12:50] <sacarlson> MagePsycho: like with the name phptest.php  with this in it <?php phpinfo(); exit(); ?> ; open that file in your browser http://localhost/phptest/php
[12:50] <PiranahOT> The SMB users do not seem to have acess to delete however the files are set to 664 and folders set to 775
[12:51] <uni4dfx> Pici yeah I'd like to know as well, because I've always used crontab -e without a problem in the past.
[12:51] <WhereIsMySpoon> how do i check what window manager im using (i.e. gnome 3/2/whatever)
[12:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> er Desktops, not window managers
[12:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> blah i guess theyre the same thing
[12:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> but whateve
[12:53] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: Well you can't really "check" it, and no, they're not the same thing
[12:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, i mean like can i check whether im using gnome3  or gnome 3 fallback
[12:53] <sacarlson> MagePsycho: http://www.howtoforge.com/using-php5-fpm-with-apache2-on-ubuntu-11.10
[12:54] <MagePsycho> error_log	/var/log/php-fpm/www-error.log
[12:54] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: If you see a panel with "Applications", "Places" and "System" on top, it's either gnome2 or gnome3 fallback, depending on your Ubuntu version. If you have "Activities" on top, that's the standard gnome3. If you have an Ubuntu logo and a panel on the left, that's Unity. XFCE... Uh, look for "Applications Menu" on top if I recall right. LXDE - strange, feather-like logo at the bottom
[12:54] <AminosAmigos> hello
[12:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, i have only applications and places
[12:54] <sacarlson> MagePsycho: I forgot about that php has it's own logs
[12:54] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: gnome3 fallback
[12:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> k
[12:57] <hrolf> Hi ubuntu, I installed openjdk-6-jdk and when I type javac it says it is found in the package openjdk-6-jdk.
[12:57] <hrolf> But openjdk-6-jdk is already installed
[12:57] <mosno> hrolf, type the full pathname of the executable
[12:58] <theadmin> hrolf: Java is a bit weird, you need to log out and back in after installing it, it doesn't install to standard $PATH
[12:58] <hrolf> I did a 'find -name 'javac'' and it appears in /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/javac
[12:58] <WhereIsMySpoon> hrolf, or you can just change .bashrc yourself
[12:58] <hrolf> How do I make it so that when I type javac from anywhere it works
[12:58]  * mosno wonders what it does in debian (or if it's even in debian) -- sounds like a DP violation, no?
[12:59] <mosno> hrolf, what theadmin said
[12:59] <theadmin> hrolf: As I said above, log out and back in, it should get added to your path thereafter
[12:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk
[12:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> export $PATH=JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH
[12:59] <cveazey> Has anyone had success running IE in Wine?
[12:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> why would you want to :S
[12:59] <hrolf> theadmin: I have restarted my pc (so I doubt logging out is going to do anything)
[12:59] <mosno> cveazey, full VM for the win
[12:59] <theadmin> hrolf: Ah, okay, well I dunno, I guess add /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin to $PATH, but... weird
[12:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> but cveazey im sure you can find the answer to that on google
[12:59] <WhereIsMySpoon> better than on here
[12:59] <hrolf> theadmin: But if you say so I may give it one last try
[13:00] <theadmin> hrolf: Nah no point
[13:00] <cveazey> Do you need a purchased version of Windows to run on VM?
[13:00] <hrolf> theadmin: How do you add paths to $PATH?
[13:00] <theadmin> hrolf: How did you install it anyway?
[13:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> hrolf, open your .bashrc
[13:00] <theadmin> cveazey: Yes
[13:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> it's in your /home/<name>
[13:00] <hrolf> theadmin: Synaptic Package manager
[13:00] <sacarlson> cveazey: you can trick sites make them think your using IE in when you really run firefox
[13:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> gksu gedit .bashrc
[13:00] <mosno> cveazey, of course. you're probably not even licensed to run IE on a non-Windows OS
[13:00] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: You don't do THAT
[13:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, ??
[13:00] <maskupe> hi im using ubuntu FIVE POINT TEN how do i upgrade this? thank YOU
[13:00] <theadmin> hrolf: Open ~/.bashrc in your favorite text editor
[13:00] <theadmin> WhereIsMySpoon: You don't edit files you normally have access to as a user as root
[13:00] <mosno> maskupe, who, me?
[13:01] <cveazey> sacarlson, how do you 'trick' sites? I am trying to print coupons. coupon sites dislike Linux.
[13:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> theadmin, bleh yea
[13:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> sorry
[13:01] <hrolf> theadmin: Then?
[13:01] <WhereIsMySpoon> hrolf, add the lines i put above
[13:01] <meet> hi..i just installed the marlin file browser. But how to make it the default file browser and remove nautilus?
[13:01] <ponrajuganesh> Greetings!!!
[13:01] <theadmin> maskupe: Um... Not possible anymore really
[13:01] <bluefrog> cveazey, at least one version of seven or vista (don't remember which) forbids virtualisation (you need to read the entirity of the license to find out)
[13:01] <ponrajuganesh> what option must be given in the cron tab so that the script runs only once in the life time?
[13:02] <sacarlson> cveazey:  you change agent https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-switcher/
[13:02] <ponrajuganesh> what option must be given in the cron tab so that the script runs only once in the life time?
[13:02] <theadmin> hrolf: Well, add the following line at the end: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin
[13:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> its better to add a java_home first imo
[13:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> but whichever
[13:02] <MrSassyPants> I need a howto on how to create a .deb from source
[13:02] <renier_> hey, does anyone know how to prove that a .tar file has not been edited since a certain date?
[13:03] <cveazey> I will give it a try. Do you have any other tips?
[13:03] <theadmin> !checkinstall | MrSassyPants
[13:03] <jrib> !packaging | MrSassyPants
[13:03] <bluefrog> maskupe, quickest thing to do is to back your data and make a fresh install of the latest version
[13:03] <MrSassyPants> so, just 'checkinstall' instead of 'make install' ?
[13:03] <theadmin> MrSassyPants: Pretty much yes
[13:03] <hrolf> theadmin, WhereIsMySpoon: I added the two lines, do I need to restart something?
[13:04] <Xabster> I'm using RealVNC 4 Free to connect to my Ubuntu 11.10 via remote desktop from my Windows 7 Ultimate. Keyboard layout is Danish on both systems. Physical keyboards are properly recognized, but when using VNC the keyboard layout seems to change to english (that is, not on either computer, but only keypresses within VNC) - do anyone know what I can do?
[13:04] <meet> how to make MARLIN the default file browser?
[13:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> hrolf, your terminal window
[13:04] <MrSassyPants> theadmin, where will the .deb file end up at?
[13:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> save and close the file first
[13:04] <jrib> MrSassyPants: you should create a proper package and avoid checkinstall
[13:04] <MrSassyPants> jrib, what now
[13:04] <jrib> MrSassyPants: see ubottu's packaging links
[13:04] <hrolf> WhereIsMySpoon: bash: export: `/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games=JAVA_HOME/bin:/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games': not a valid identifier
[13:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> er sorry
[13:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> $JAVA_HOME
[13:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> not JAVA_HOME
[13:05] <FloodBot1> WhereIsMySpoon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:05] <MrSassyPants> jrib, I'm just doing a backport for 10.04
[13:05] <jrib> MrSassyPants: yeah, so?
[13:05] <MrSassyPants> jrib, and I want the package manager to be aware of the installation
[13:05] <jrib> MrSassyPants: if you're doing a backport of a package from a later ubuntu version, then checkinstall is definitely not the way to go.  Read the !backport factoid
[13:05] <MrSassyPants> jrib, so what do I really need? I have better things to do than read package manager docs all day
[13:06] <sral> ssh with PKCS#11 token anyone?
[13:06] <sacarlson> sral: ya I saw one
[13:06] <jrib> MrSassyPants: checkinstall will create a "dumb" .deb.  i.e. you will have a package but meta information like dependencies won't be there
[13:06] <MrSassyPants> jrib, well, it's not a backport from a later ubuntu version. Maybe I was using the wrong term. I'm just trying to have a newer version of someting available on 10.04
[13:06] <hrolf> WhereIsMySpoon: bash: export: `=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk': not a valid identifier
[13:06] <hrolf> bash: export: `/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games=JAVA_HOME/bin:/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games': not a valid identifier
[13:07] <arch_adam> can anyone shed any light on this? mail postfix/local[2682]: E29652AEA6<EMAIL_ADDRESS>relay=local, delay=0.05, delays=0/0/0/0.05, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user: "info")
[13:07] <sral> sacarlson, and you could help me make that work?
[13:07] <jrib> MrSassyPants: there's a recipe on the packaging section of the wiki on how to do that
[13:07] <jrib> MrSassyPants: (properly)
[13:07] <sacarlson> sral: I already lost it from your last visit
[13:07] <MrSassyPants> jrib, link me
[13:07] <jrib> MrSassyPants: /msg ubottu packaging
[13:07] <MrSassyPants> jrib, gives me about 5 links and hundreds of pages. pass.
[13:07] <sral> sacarlson, what did you lose?
[13:08] <meet> how to remove nautilus?
[13:08] <jrib> MrSassyPants: it gives you 5 links and I told you to look at the recipe section...
[13:08] <pa> canonical is just a bunch of fucking lames..
[13:08] <sacarlson> sral: I had researched it and found you had left before I found it and now I lost it
[13:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> hrolf, eh?
[13:08] <jrib> erm 3 links
[13:08] <Renbot> hey, does anyone know how to prove that a .tar file has not been edited since a certain date?
[13:08] <pa> here another.. xtables addons. they dont ship the common tools to use it
[13:08] <pa> jesus christ
[13:08] <pa> then they complain they lose market share
[13:08] <pa> of course
[13:08] <pa> ubuntu is sucking harder and harder
[13:09] <sral> sacarlson, arrrrrrgh. anything you remember?
[13:09] <pa> enjoy with your unity canonical, alone!
[13:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> ah crap
[13:09] <jrib> MrSassyPants: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/PackageUpdate
[13:09] <hrolf> WhereIsMySpoon: Still error http://paste.ubuntu.com/881801/
[13:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> hrolf, its export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH
[13:09] <meet> this is annoying... please someone answer!! how to remove nautilus
[13:09] <Renbot> hey, does anyone know how to prove that a .tar file has not been edited since a certain date?
[13:09] <MrSassyPants> jrib, was already reading
[13:09] <KM0201> meet: why on earth would you remove nautilus?
[13:09] <sacarlson> sral: I'm looking again but I did see that openssh had to be compiled with those libs setup but not sure if ubuntu defaults with them active
[13:10] <Pici> pa: Feel free to file a bug, complaning here just annoys us.
[13:10] <theadmin> Renbot: Uh, look at the modification date?
[13:10] <meet> KM0201 i wanna use marlin
[13:10] <KM0201> hmm...
[13:10] <meet> KM0201 anyways to do that?
[13:10] <Renbot> theadmin: that is considered "not sufficient"
[13:10] <sacarlson> sral: http://andys.org.uk/bits/2009/12/23/openssh-and-opensc-for-debian-and-ubuntu/
[13:11] <Renbot> i need something more official
[13:11] <hrolf> WhereIsMySpoon: bash: export: `=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk': not a valid identifier
[13:11] <theadmin> Renbot: Well, yeah, easy to fake but... Look at the modification date of the "youngest" file in the archive? There's no real or tar-specific way to do it...
[13:11] <sacarlson> sral: as that seems to point out opensc is not active by default so maybe in ppa ?
[13:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> >_>
[13:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk
[13:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH
[13:11] <KM0201> meet: it might be (a lot) easier to just install marlin, and make it the default file browser.
[13:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> thats all you should have
[13:11] <AdvoWork> hi there, having a problem, brand new lappy, booted it up from cd for ubuntu, picked test live ubuntu, and it did nothing for ages and ages. Had to power it off, now i can't get it to go back to that menu, it just keeps going through the Ubuntu .. . . . screen, any ideas please?
[13:11] <FloodBot1> WhereIsMySpoon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:11] <KM0201> because Nautilus controls many things on ubuntu, not just the file browser.
[13:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> or whatever your home is hrolf
[13:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> hrolf, dont copy my path
[13:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> replace it with your own
[13:12] <Renbot> so, extract tar and look at youngest file in tar. Would u consider this hard to fake?
[13:12] <sral> sacarlson, there is a major change in openssh 5.4: support for PKCS#11
[13:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> but the commands are the same apart from that
[13:12] <Renbot> this is for uni btw
[13:12] <hrolf> WhereIsMySpoon: Yay
[13:12] <meet> KM0201 i clicked the set as default option in marlin, but to no avail
[13:12] <hrolf> WhereIsMySpoon: Thanks. Is that the only way to add to $PATH?
[13:12] <sacarlson> sral: ok so what version are you installing on your ubuntu version?
[13:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> hrolf, to export it in the .bashrc? yes
[13:12] <theadmin> hrolf: Well yes, though you can simply add paths as well without defining extra variables
[13:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> unless you dont want it persisting
[13:13] <theadmin> hrolf: Might as well look at, uh, /etc/environment
[13:13] <sral> sacarlson, ubuntu 11.10 -> open ssh 5.8p1
[13:13] <hrolf> theadmin: Thanks.
[13:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> hrolf, now just open a new terminal window and type java
[13:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> should work
[13:14] <sacarlson> sral: ok then that link I gave should work then
[13:14] <hrolf> WhereIsMySpoon: Yes, it's working.
[13:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> good
[13:14] <Renbot> theadmin: would you consider your method as difficult to fake?
[13:14] <theadmin> Renbot: Nope, not really, there's no method that would be unfakeable anyway... tar doesn't store such information I'd believe
[13:14] <LiNuX`sup> if I have issues running gnome3 in ubuntu would I seek help here or is there a gnome channel I should ask in?
[13:15] <theadmin> LiNuX`sup: Since gnome3 is official for Ubuntu, ask here.
[13:15] <theadmin> LiNuX`sup: However, it's only official since Oneiric, and not supported at all on earlier releases, so.
[13:15] <Renbot> theadmin: okey, so no luck? I have to prove it to get marks for programming assignment...
[13:15] <theadmin> Renbot: Weird people :$ I dunno how they want you to prove it honestly
[13:16] <LiNuX`sup> when I load gnome3 it doesn't load it at all. instead it appears to load the same integrated toolbar from unity only showing the file menu and docking windows to top right of screen
[13:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> LiNuX`sup, are you choosing a gnome3 session via the login screen?
[13:16] <LiNuX`sup> yes I am
[13:16] <sral> sacarlson, it should be able to add the token via "ssh -add -s /lib64/libeToken.so.8" as the site states as well. only it doesn't. ssh-keygen -D also says "no keys"
[13:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> LiNuX`sup, have you removed unity?
[13:16] <Renbot> theadmin: such a shit system. Their online submission failed to upload my file. Now I must prove that I did it.
[13:16] <LiNuX`sup> no I havn't and don't wish to
[13:17] <mosno> LiNuX`sup, try it for a new user
[13:17] <MrSassyPants> jrib, debuild -S -sa fails with a fatal error
[13:17] <theadmin> Renbot: That doesn't make much sense to me... :/
[13:17] <LiNuX`sup> could compiz be the culprit?
[13:17] <sral> sacarlson, I read that latest would be to use pcscd, not opensc
[13:17] <jrib> MrSassyPants:you need to be more specific (i have to leave soon though)
[13:17] <theadmin> Renbot: Also, please watch your language here, swearing is not welcome
[13:17] <mosno> LiNuX`sup, gnome shell doesn't use compiz
[13:17] <LiNuX`sup> if I have it set to emerald in compiz for window manager?
[13:17] <LiNuX`sup> so I should disable that and try again?
[13:18] <Renbot> theadmin:  sorry, frustrated as you can imagine. 12 hours down the drain
[13:18] <mosno> LiNuX`sup, you should do what i suggested, unless someone has a better idea
[13:18] <MrSassyPants> jrib, well, it's just the source diff that fails
[13:18] <LiNuX`sup> just try a new user... will do.
[13:18] <LiNuX`sup> be back
[13:18] <jrib> MrSassyPants: make sure you are able to build the unmodified package first.  If yes, then pastebin your modifications
[13:18] <jrib> and full error output
[13:19] <AdvoWork> just tried installing on a brand new laptop with 10.10. its now come to a screen stating General Error Mounting filesystems. then about a maintenance shell, and tthen bash: /root/.bashrc: Input/Output error. ANy ideas please?
[13:20] <MrSassyPants> jrib, basically diff fails
[13:20] <jrib> MrSassyPants: that's too vague for anyone to help you
[13:20] <sral> sacarlson, "no slots" it says, sry
[13:22] <sacarlson> sral: I'm not sure this is related but I found this http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.network.openssh.devel/10995
[13:24] <sral> sacarlson, no, sorry, did not help. but let me say that I really appreciate your help.
[13:26] <sral> sacarlson, I'm getting crazy, the token works in firefox, in evolution, in console using pkcs11-tool. only ssh won't work
[13:38] <MrSassyPants> ok, I've compiled and checkinstalled rtorrent and libtorrent now. Problem: rtorrent refuses to start as it doesn't find libtorrent.so.14 - However libtorrent.so.14 is right there in /usr/local/lib and /usr/local/lib is in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/libc.conf
[13:38] <MrSassyPants> what gives?
[13:39] <zth> MrSassyPants, try "sudo ldconfig" and then retry it
[13:40] <MrSassyPants> zth, that seems to have done it :O thx
[13:41] <zth> MrSassyPants, no problem! for future reference, use that whenever you've compiled yourself and it dont find a library that's actually there. when installing via synaptic or apt, it auto-does that command
[13:41] <MrSassyPants> aight
[13:42] <abe__> plisss help me
[13:42] <abe__> http://ompldr.org/vZDB2dg/Screenshot%20at%202012-03-13%2020_26_47.png
[13:42] <ikonia> abe__: looks like you don't have open ssl installed (doubtful) or you've deleted the libraries
[13:43] <sral> sacarlson, I think I'm onto something. My token stores the private key and the x.509 certificate. the certificate contains the public key by definition, but openssh seems to expect that separate.
[13:44] <abe__> so,,, how can i fixed ???
[13:45] <ikonia> abe__: well, see if you have openssl installed, and if not install it
[13:45] <cancer> in additional Drivers there is now only 'nvidia binary xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library'
[13:45] <ikonia> abe__: however I suspect it is installed and you've somehow manually deleted the libraries
[13:45] <cancer> before this i did this all > http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=99513
[13:46] <ikonia> cancer: I believe that was a bad idea
[13:46] <ikonia> cancer: manually dropping nvidia modules into ubuntu can cause problems, more so if they then try to use the hardware drivers tool
[13:46] <AminosAmigos> anyone here from india please ?
[13:46] <ikonia> AminosAmigos: why ?
[13:47] <Helpplz> Guys
[13:47] <Helpplz> and Gals :P
[13:47] <Helpplz> am running CentOS 6 and the GUI wont start
[13:47] <Helpplz> I have installed it
[13:47] <ikonia> Helpplz: try the #centos channel
[13:47] <AminosAmigos> come privet please
[13:48] <ikonia> Helpplz: you're currently in #ubuntu
[13:48] <theadmin> Helpplz: This is #ubuntu, CentOS is not supported here...
[13:48] <Helpplz> thank u
[13:48] <ikonia> AminosAmigos: no, please just ask your question
[13:48] <abe__> ikonia : so,,, how can i get openssl ???
[13:48] <cancer> ikonia: any solution. i'm a newbie
[13:48] <ikonia> abe__: open the package manager and install it
[13:48] <ikonia> cancer: I wouldn't want to pickup trying to solve it to be honest, you've manually installed the modules from nvidia.com (as I read that forum post)
[13:48] <AminosAmigos> how to say where do we know each other in Indian ?
[13:49] <ikonia> AminosAmigos: I'm not from India, I'm asking what your problem is/why you need someone from India ?
[13:49] <cancer> ikonia: is there anything i can do to turn everything back.
[13:49] <ikonia> AminosAmigos: this channel is #ubuntu - it's for ubuntu technical support discussion, so I'm trying to understand why you need someone from India
[13:49] <ikonia> cancer: not without manually undoing what you have done
[13:49] <abe__> ikonia : and how to install it via terminal ??
[13:49] <cancer> ikonia: and i cannot delete file from /usr/src.
[13:50] <AminosAmigos> cuz i have an indian guy talking with me and i don't understand him at all LoL
[13:50] <ikonia> cancer: that won't make any difference
[13:50] <AminosAmigos> i am sorry for wasting your time
[13:50] <ikonia> AminosAmigos: I suggest using google translate,
[13:50] <cancer> ikonia: i don't know to do that manually
[13:50] <ikonia> antonpiatek: not a problem
[13:50] <ikonia> abe__: use apt
[13:50] <sacarlson> AminosAmigos: I guess he's not an american indian?  lol
[13:51] <AminosAmigos> don't think so
[13:51] <abe__> ikonia : can you tell me full list ???
[13:52] <AminosAmigos> 2 minets hold   |
[13:52] <AminosAmigos> whos contry i don't think that's English do you sacarlson
[13:52] <ikonia> AminosAmigos: you may want to take this to another channel, try #defocus for example
[13:52] <jorge> quit
[13:53] <AminosAmigos> ok i am leaving see you :)
[13:53] <johnjacobjinger> wait... indian with a dot or a feather?
[13:54] <millun> hey guys
[13:55] <millun> 11.10, default kernel , HANGS on suspending to ram
[13:55] <Guest9470> hey
[13:56] <josefnpat> What time exactly is ubuntu 12.04 being released? I want to have a party on this event where everyone gets horribly drunk.
[13:56] <arand> josefnpat: No time set, when it's done, that day, also see #ubuntu+1
[13:57] <josefnpat> Bummer, it'll just have to be a untimed event then. Thanks arand
[13:57] <arand> josefnpat: Or have it the next day ;)
[13:57] <Guest95356> are questions about Plasma Desktop ok here?
[13:58] <Pici> josefnpat: The schedule says April 26th. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[13:58] <ikonia> Guest95356: sure, you may find #kubuntu more focussed on kde though
[13:58] <Guest95356> tks
[13:59] <josefnpat> arand, Thanks what I was thinking. Pici thanks. It's a thursday, so I can just have it the next day, lol.
[14:02] <mguy> I just put an Intel 82541PI Ethernet card in my Dell T3400 workstation. Any ideas why it doesn't show up in lspci output or should I check somewhere else? http://paste.ubuntu.com/881854/
[14:02] <mguy> The Broadcom networking chip on the motherboard still works fine
[14:10] <lookatmeyou> it seems that ubuntu 10.10 doesn't support code blocks.
[14:12] <lookatmeyou> when I open code::blocks 10.05 in ubuntu 10.10, it always has a display problem.
[14:14] <madoo> i need hellp
[14:15] <susundberg> !ask
[14:15] <madoo> eny one hellp me please
[14:15] <here4thegear> !ask madoo
[14:16] <AdvoWork> hi there, having a problem, brand new lappy, booted it up from cd for ubuntu, picked test live ubuntu, and it did nothing for ages and ages. Had to power it off, now i can't get it to go back to that menu, it just keeps going through the Ubuntu .. . . . screen, any ideas please?
[14:16] <madoo> i have hp pc and i try to open music but my subover not work   insed this pc i have speaker this only workin
[14:17] <us12> !logs
[14:17] <madoo> can you til me haw i can fix thats brupleam
[14:19] <madoo> hello
[14:20] <maltray> Guys, anybody knows how to kill the x-server on Ubuntu?
[14:20] <maltray> and access the terminal without any kind of gui
[14:20] <SachinDey> madoo: do you have speakers connected with your subwoofer? and are those speakers working?
[14:20] <maltray> I've done this command: sudo service lightdm stop, but now it wont let me do anything
[14:21] <madoo> yes but insed the pc
[14:21] <theadmin> maltray: Well switch to a tty which has a getty running, that is, 1-6
[14:21] <theadmin> maltray: Ctrl+Alt+F1 (F2, F3 ... F6)
[14:21] <madoo> with xp  the suboofer is workin
[14:21] <madoo> but with ubuntu no
[14:22] <kurtwp_> can someone provide a link on the steps to remove the global menu in U11:10 -
[14:22] <userubuntu009> Hi...I hope someone is here to help me. I'm booting from a live ubuntu dvd...trying to update-grub. Trying a duel boot system but can't get Ubuntu up and running
[14:22] <theadmin> kurtwp_: Pretty much "sudo apt-get remove appmenu-gtk appmenu-qt"
[14:23] <gvo> madoo check the Sound Preferences/Hardware/Profile
[14:24] <userubuntu009> I get this error when I run "update-grub"  ---/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[14:24] <SachinDey> madoo: o do you have different sound cards?
[14:24] <SachinDey> madoo: do you have different sound cards?
[14:25] <madoo> yes its insed thats pc
[14:25] <userubuntu009> nevermind
[14:25] <madoo> can you till me haw i can fix thats
[14:26] <maltray> theadmin: yeh, that worked, now im getting kind of a log error that i want to disable, it says" phy0: invalid plcp cck rate
[14:26] <Xabster> where does ubuntu save standard wallpapers?
[14:26] <SachinDey> which ubuntu are you using? madoo
[14:26] <theadmin> maltray: Not sure what that can even mean lol
[14:26] <gvo> madoo did you read my suggestion?
[14:26] <madoo> 10.10
[14:26] <StepNjump> hi guys, I'm tryting to install my driver for my ATI card. Found these instructions: http://digitizor.com/2011/05/31/ati-catalyst-11-5-fglrx-8-5-ubuntu-11-04/ Everything works great except when I'm about to run sudo aticonfig --initial -f Looks like the aticonfig command is not recognized. Could anyone help please?
[14:26] <maltray> its so annoying, but oh well :p
[14:26] <madoo> no
[14:26] <madoo> send agin
[14:26] <gvo> scroll back up and look.
[14:26] <theadmin> maltray: If it's on tty1, switch to tty2-6
[14:27] <theadmin> maltray: tty1 is often flooded with kernel nonsense
[14:27] <madoo> haw i can do thats
[14:27] <trilobutt> Hey, I was wondering if someone could help me out. my DVD drive doesn't mount any DVDs (no response, it just does the spinning noise and that's it; blank, burned, and movie DVDs, same thing with all of them); CDs work fine. I've tried manually mounting, no response. Any ideas how to fix it?
[14:27] <gvo> madoo check the Sound Preferences/Hardware/Profile
[14:27] <theadmin> maltray: (and various other programs seem to like to write there too)
[14:27] <madoo> haw
[14:28] <ro0tux> StepNjump, this wiki link may help: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide
[14:28] <StepNjump> ÀThank you very much ro0tux
[14:29] <madoo> its analog stereo duplex
[14:29] <gvo> madoo on 10.04 if you click the speaker icon you'll see a sound preferences  tag.  Click  it.
[14:29] <gvo> madoo so try some of the other choices.
[14:29] <madoo> i did
[14:30] <ro0tux> no problem., the command may be:  sudo aticonfig --initial -f
[14:30] <craigbass1976> I did a sudo update-alternatives --config java so that Sun's was the default, but my java app acts like it does when openjdk is the default.  It won't print, and this only happens when I accidentally install openjdk.
[14:30] <gvo> madoo I can't help if that doesn't work.
[14:30] <SachinDey> madoo: also check the output tab
[14:31] <gvo> madoo run alsamixer
[14:32] <madoo> i did  i have 3  one of them cut off the suond
[14:32] <madoo> i did but noting happend
[14:32] <madoo> can you hellp me
[14:32] <madoo> haw
[14:32] <FloodBot1> madoo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:33] <gvo> type alsamixer on a terminal window
[14:33] <craigbass1976> what's the best vnc server to install?
[14:33] <gvo> tight vnc works well
[14:33] <madoo> till me haw and what i do and i will do
[14:33] <gvo> madoo type alsamixer on a terminal window
[14:34] <nishttal2> does anyone here have a recommendation for a good incremental backup solution?
[14:34] <madoo> what i can typ
[14:35] <llutz> nishttal2: rsnapshot
[14:35] <nishttal2> timevault looks promising but hasnt been updated for a while
[14:35] <gvo> madoo F1 for help
[14:36] <madoo> what i can typ in tirmnal
[14:36] <gvo> madoo alsamixer
[14:37] <nishttal2> llutz, rsnapshot can keep track of file moves, i mean not duplicate a file that was simply moved to a different folder
[14:37] <madoo> line have no color
[14:37] <madoo> with mic
[14:38] <gvo> madoo F1
[14:38] <madoo> but all its have red and gren and wight
[14:38] <madoo> i did
[14:38] <madoo> after
[14:38] <craigbass1976> gvo, how do I start vnc so that I can see what's already on the screen on the remote box?
[14:39] <craigbass1976> gvo, display :0 I guess
[14:39] <gvo> craigbass1976: I don't know offhand.
[14:39] <compdoc> craigbass1976, use vino, which is built in - you just need to enable it
[14:39] <gvo> craigbass1976: I know it can be done, but I've never had opportunity to do so.
[14:40] <gvo> madoo OK type F6 and select a card then F5
[14:40] <cveazey> Has anyone had success printing coupons online using Ubuntu? I have the User Agent switcher, so I can see the sites, but I have not been able to get the coupon printers running right.
[14:41] <madoo> i did but noting happend
[14:41] <gvo> madoo what is your woofer plugged into?  OK how many options in F6?
[14:41] <cveazey> I installed one using wine, but it doesn't seem to be working.
[14:42] <madoo> i did but no sound
[14:42] <madoo> line  and mic  its have n color
[14:43] <craigbass1976> compdoc, does vino only work with GNOME?
[14:43] <gvo> madoo how many options in F6
[14:43] <tom3> Hello! I'm trying to play an ogg file using ubuntu 10.10/amd64, but can't get it to work. This is my problem: http://pastebin.com/c4ES1Rki Could you please give me a hint?
[14:43] <tom3> I'm not sure what other plugins to install, gst-inspect shows http://pastebin.com/0uXsGLzD
[14:43] <madoo> just one
[14:43] <jimmy51_> what happens if you are logged in as root and use 'sudo'?
[14:43] <gvo> madoo default only?
[14:44] <madoo> hda ati sb
[14:44] <auronandace> !noroot | jimmy51_
[14:44] <jimmy51_> auronandace: hehe, thanks.  this is hypothetical.
[14:44] <gvo> madoo you should have default and one other at a mininum.
[14:44] <madoo> and enter device name
[14:45] <gvo> madoo strange hardware.
[14:45] <auronandace> jimmy51_: i don't think it would do anything since root is the superuser
[14:45] <gvo> madoo after pressing F5 you only have two controls?
[14:45] <jimmy51_> auronandace: seems like it would be like trying to magnetize a magnet.
[14:45] <madoo> no just one
[14:46] <gvo> madoo Mike?
[14:46] <madoo> no mic no line
[14:46] <gvo> madoo what's the label on the one control?
[14:47] <madoo> no label in this 2
[14:47] <madoo> but all its have color
[14:48] <madoo>  Card: HDA ATI SB                                     F1:  Help               │
[14:48] <madoo> │ Chip: Realtek ALC260                                 F2:  System information │
[14:48] <madoo> │ View: F3: Playback  F4: Capture  F5:[All]            F6:  Select sound card  │
[14:48] <madoo> │ Item: Capture [dB gain: 35.00, 35.00]
[14:48] <gvo> madoo ESC to get out of the mixer.
[14:48] <FloodBot1> madoo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:48] <gvo> madoo don't do that
[14:49] <madoo> okey
[14:49] <madoo> dont do what
[14:49] <gvo> flood
[14:49] <madoo> sorry
[14:50] <francesco_> ciao
[14:50] <francesco_> !list
[14:50] <madoo> analog stereo input is not workin
[14:51] <bufalo1973>  /msg ubottu !alis
[14:51] <gvo> madoo OK I suspect that the os doesn't support your card or you need to load other modules or something isn't configured right and I'm not able to help you with any of that.
[14:52] <madoo> thankiss
[14:53] <justalek> anybody?
[14:56] <kame> hi
[14:56] <proxx8187> hi
[14:57] <kame> I want to read japanese news feeds in evolution. but some of the characters are old chinese characters. I had the same problem before in opera. but I forget how I solved this :/
[14:57] <justalek> I have problem with dual boot, anyone can hel?
[14:57] <Bunie> Hey guys! x86 or x64?
[14:58] <ikonia> Bunie: up to you
[14:58] <ikonia> justalek: you need to ask a question
[14:58] <qhartman> justalek, what's going wrong?
[14:58] <bdi> Why is it a good idea to do ./configure --prefix=/usr/local when compiling a lib? lets say i am compiling a lib which other programs coming from the repo make use of...is it then still a good idea?
[14:58] <proxx8187> Bunie: depends on your hardware
[14:59] <ikonia> bdi: it is a bad idea in general to put software form the repos linking against non-repo managed libraries
[14:59] <Bunie> proxx8187: I worry about things like, does x64 use more ram? what about finding drivers?
[14:59] <ikonia> bdi: there should be very few reasons why you'd need to manually build a lib, and even fewer where you want repo software to use that lib
[14:59] <qhartman> bdi: It's just goo hygiene to keep stuff that is not under package management separate
[14:59] <ikonia> qhartman: there is a lot more to it than just "being clean"
[14:59] <proxx8187> Bunie: x64 can use all ram , 86 cant, limited
[14:59] <bdi> qhartman: what i need is not in the repo
[15:00] <proxx8187> bunie : i run everything on x64
[15:00] <justalek> ok, i have windows and ubuntu 11.10. On boot i see a grub splash screen, and windows7 loader, but when i choose windows from drop down menu it cannot boot
[15:00] <ikonia> bdi: what are you looking for
[15:00] <bdi> ikonia: e.g. gphoto is in the repo, but it uses a buggy version of libgphoto, so i want to upgrade just libgphoto
[15:00] <qhartman> ikonia, yes, there is
[15:00] <ikonia> bdi: does anything else depend on that library from the repo ?
[15:01] <bdi> ikonia: that i do not know...i suspect maybe this fshot i think its called
[15:01] <vasilevich> hello is anyone free to help me set up a network interface?
[15:01] <Bunie> i guess i dont rlly see a reason to go x64. this PC is physically limited to 2GB of ram lolz.
[15:01] <proxx8187> justalek: try run grub-mkconfig again
[15:01] <ikonia> bdi: that is something you %101 need to know before you cosider putting it in a place where the other library is stored.
[15:01] <kame> can somebody help me?
[15:01] <proxx8187> justa ask
[15:02] <ikonia> bdi: also keep in mind, you'll probably need to re-compile the actual package to link against that library, rather than just dump the library in place
[15:02] <bdi> ikonia: i need to remote control my canon d80 camera via my ubuntu PC, which is done via gphoto....but this works very poorly, so i have to upgrade libgphoto
[15:02] <auronandace> Bunie: you can't go 64bit if your processor doesn't support it anyway
[15:02] <Bunie> auronandace: It does
[15:02] <kame> i asked before and now again .... I want to read japanese news feeds in evolution. but some of the characters are old chinese characters. I had the same problem before in opera. but I forget how I solved this :/
[15:02] <Bunie> NO idea why a board with a 2GB limit supports x64
[15:02] <ikonia> bdi: I understand what you are saying, that's why I'm trying to explain how you will need to manage it
[15:02] <proxx8187> kame: no idea about japanse :P
[15:02] <ikonia> Bunie: because you don't need 4gb of ram to use 64bit
[15:02] <auronandace> Bunie: ah, good, i've used 64bit for years, its great
[15:02] <Bunie> ikonia: But what will i get for using it?
[15:03] <justalek> proxx8187: then what?
[15:03] <bdi> ikonia: yeah...hmm would it be possible to download libgphoto and gphoto and put it in their own kindof, sandbox
[15:03] <Bunie> ikonia: I know finding x64 drivers on Windows can be a struggle. the same is true for ubuntu yes?
[15:03] <proxx8187> justalek: try and reboot, see if that works
[15:03] <ikonia> Bunie: same thing as a 32bit host
[15:03] <ikonia> Bunie: no,
[15:03] <vasilevich> i need help configuriing my network interface like this: I have three network adapters: WLAN0 ETH0 ETH1  i would like to recieve internet from WLAN0 and share it to either ETH0/ETH1
[15:03] <proxx8187> bunie: thats typical windows mindset, forget about that
[15:03] <Bunie> i know open source drivers can be compiled for both.
[15:03] <Bunie> but proprietary?
[15:03] <ikonia> Bunie: the kernel that runs for 32bit, is the same as 64bit
[15:03] <ikonia> Bunie: so anything that is native support to the kernel, in 32bit will be native to 64bit
[15:03] <bdi> ikonia: because yeah i would probably need to recompile programs using libgphoto if i upgraded that
[15:04] <Bunie> so 32-bit drivers work on x64 ubuntu?
[15:04] <ikonia> Bunie: most vendors, nvidia/ati for example provide 64bit binary packages, but ubuntu packages them up for you so you don't have to do a thing
[15:04] <bdi> ikonia: so it would be really cool if i could somehow keep those separate from the system
[15:04] <Bunie> i suppose if it fails me i can just reinstall with x86
[15:04] <Bunie> nothin to lose :D
[15:05] <Bunie> i know "theres all kinds of programs out there", but does Ubuntu work well with the RDP protocol?
[15:05] <auronandace> Bunie: from a user perspective you likely won't notice any difference
[15:05] <ikonia> bdi: if you %100 have to build your own software, I'd see this as an isolated/specific case, so I'd built it in /opt or /usr/local to keep it totally seperate from the ubuntu packages
[15:05] <ikonia> Bunie: no more/less than any other linux
[15:05] <proxx8187> Bunie: only better performance
[15:06] <Bunie> i want compatability. i dont wanna be told "this is for x64, sorry", but i worry about x86 programs not being compatible with x64, either.
[15:06] <bdi> ikonia: right, so i would do ./configure --prefix=/opt when compiling both libgphoto and gphoto?
[15:06] <auronandace> Bunie: maybe if you provide examples we can help
[15:06] <proxx8187> Bunie: linux doesnt work that way, you can run 32 bit stuff on 64 install
[15:06] <Bunie> Also, I'm a bit of a gamer. Hows Nvidia doing? I heard they started compiling linux drivers again?
[15:06] <ikonia> bdi: at a high level "yes"
[15:07] <bahar_> hi
[15:07] <ikonia> Bunie: gaming on linux is not something I'd recommend
[15:07] <Bunie> ikonia: Last question. On the download page, 32-bit is "Recommended". If 64-bit is no more complex. then why is that? for people who arent sure if theyre x64 compatible?
[15:07] <bahar_> why is ubuntuuusers.de down
[15:07] <ikonia> Bunie: nvidia never stopped "offering" drivers, however manually installing them is a bad idea, ubuntu packages up supported drivers for you
[15:07] <ikonia> bahar_: ask the website maintainer,
[15:08] <ikonia> Bunie: just poor wording in my opinion
[15:08] <Bunie> okay im going to try this "side-by-side" install thing. if it ruins my windows, is there a command to make ubuntu cry with me?
[15:09] <Bunie> lols kidding. wish me luck though :D
[15:09] <regi> oi
[15:09] <ikonia> I don't think you should do that
[15:09] <bdi> ikonia: at a high level?
[15:09] <Bunie> why not?
[15:09] <imbezol> Bunie: ubuntu won't be sad :)
[15:09] <ikonia> Bunie: sideby side or "wubi" is not a great option in my experience/opinion
[15:09] <vasilevich> 	i need help configuriing my network interface like this: I have three network adapters: WLAN0 ETH0 ETH1 i would like to recieve internet from WLAN0 and share it to ETH0 or ETH1 can someone please give me the right configuration for /etc/network/interfaces
[15:09] <Bunie> not wubi
[15:09] <compdoc> Bunie, back it up first
[15:09] <Bunie> im told the installer can shrink my windows partition
[15:09] <Bunie> compdoc: Too lazy.
[15:09] <ikonia> bdi: well, it's more than just "--prefix=/opt" but that's the bottom line of it, you install everything to /opt or /usr/local/ or where ever
[15:09] <ikonia> Bunie: dual boot will be fine
[15:10] <bahar_> know anybody how  i can protect myself against porn
[15:10] <Bunie> i worry about shrinking partitions
[15:10] <Bunie> =/
[15:10] <auronandace> Bunie: no backups mean you don't consider your data important, hope you know what you are doing
[15:10] <ikonia> bahar_: don't open websites that you don't trust
[15:10] <nibbler_> bahar_, i guess the way to go would be a filter like for kids, they should have blacklists
[15:10] <Bunie> i have all my data sort of backed up =D
[15:10] <ikonia> bahar_: there are numerous porn blacklists available on the internet, you can use them to block sites with many technologies
[15:10] <bdi> ikonia: hmm ok so how do i do that
[15:11] <proxx8187> vasilevich: you probably have to look into iptables for that, lower level bridging is often not possible due to crappy firmware
[15:12] <proxx8187> vasilevich: or take a look at brctl which might be able to help you .... again firmware for wifi is often poor.
[15:12] <regi> alguem pode me achar
[15:13] <ikonia> bdi: do what ?
[15:15] <bdi> ikonia: i mean...install everything to /opt
[15:15] <ikonia> bdi: you'll need to do some research, you've got the concept right with --prefix=/opt
[15:15] <bdi> ikonia: do i have to look through all files and check where they will be copied to?
[15:15] <ikonia> bdi: you'll see that when you do "make install"
[15:15] <gvo> ikonia a quote from Lorem Ipsum?
[15:16] <ikonia> gvo: what ?
[15:16] <bdi> ikonia: right...so adapt the make-file ?
[15:16] <gvo> answer to regi statement ;)
[15:16] <bdi> Makefile
[15:16] <ikonia> bdi: no, the make file will be created when you configure the build process
[15:17] <Bunie_> i know this is probably a "duh" question but, Linux can compile windows programs yes?
[15:17] <proxx8187> Bunie_: no
[15:17] <gvo> Bunie_: Not really
[15:17] <Bunie_> really? :S
[15:18] <proxx8187> Bunie_: libraries must be native, if course
[15:18] <ikonia> Bunie_: no
[15:18] <auronandace> Bunie_: what windows programs do you have the source to? :)
[15:18] <proxx8187> lol
[15:18] <Bunie_> Server emulators n such
[15:18] <remoteCTRL> why the fuck does ununtu simply unsinstall some of my apps without any warning on OS upgrade, are you guys outa your minds???
[15:18] <ikonia> Bunie_: most windows programs are not open source
[15:18] <bdi> ikonia: hmm ok...so i dont see what more i can do that change PREFIX = /opt
[15:18] <stephanb> hi, i got xubuntu 11.10 installed, is there a way to install unity as a second DE, without reinstalling? like is there a metapackage for the unity-desktop
[15:18] <Bunie_> ikonia: I feel thats an untrue statement :P
[15:18] <ikonia> Bunie_: any that are, will depend on microsoft libraries/tools that do not exist on windows
[15:18] <ikonia> Bunie_: ok - well, it's not but if you "feel it's untrue" why are asking if it's possible
[15:19] <Bunie_> that parts prolly true tho. But its not rlly a "windows program" as it can be compiled for linux too
[15:19] <ikonia> bdi: it's silly things, like make sure the linker is looking in the right place
[15:19] <proxx8187> bored
[15:19] <ikonia> Bunie_: give me an example of what youwant to run
[15:19] <Bunie_> Random programs, Game servers, etc.
[15:20] <ikonia> Bunie_: give me an example
[15:20] <Bunie_> Lolz I cant think of any. like, maybe a world of warcraft server?
[15:20] <ikonia> Bunie_: ok, is there a Linux version of that ?
[15:20] <Bunie_> uses the same source for both linux and windows compiles, using a program called cmake
[15:20] <Bunie_> so i know it can be built for linux
[15:20] <Bunie_> can linux build the windows version?
[15:21] <proxx8187> why are you asking such questions when you know the answer... pfff
[15:21] <ikonia> Bunie_: I've just looked at it, there is a linux version and a microsoft version
[15:21] <ikonia> Bunie_: they are just in the same source tar ball
[15:21] <Bunie_> i dunno im just making conversation =x ill just accept the answer as no for now
[15:21] <ikonia> Bunie_: and no, the linux version cannot build the microsoft platform
[15:22] <ikonia> Bunie_: the answer is "no"
[15:22] <Bunie_> Last Resort: Virtual Box <3
[15:22] <ikonia> Bunie_: if you run Windows in virtual box, sure you can build on that guest
[15:22] <Bunie_> Man
[15:22] <Bunie_> Ubuntu knows how to force you to leech their download
[15:22] <Bunie_> downloading the ISO at 10Kbps
[15:23] <proxx8187> torrent...................
[15:23] <auronandace> !torrents | Bunie_
[15:23] <Bunie_> ill just use a download manager >3>
[15:23] <Bunie_> nvm its back up now :3
[15:23] <Bunie_> i would use a torrent but im at like 85%
[15:23] <Bunie_> cant stop now Lols
[15:23] <Bunie_> woo, its maxing out my bandwith now. all is well in bunie land
[15:25] <Middle> Hello! I'm bored so I came here to help some newbies :)
[15:27] <Middle> Awfully quiet in here...
[15:27] <mydogsnameisrudy> yep
[15:27] <bahar_> can here anyone tell me a programm to block porn in ubuntu
[15:27] <Bunie> lol?
[15:28] <Middle> For your kids?
[15:28] <ikonia> bahar_: as I've told you 3 times
[15:28] <auronandace> !info nanny | bahar_
[15:28] <Middle> ^
[15:28] <cesarstafe> hi people, I am installing an Ubunty 10.04.4 server and for my surprise there is not a way to install 'sun-java6-jre'
[15:28] <ikonia> bahar_: you can download public blacklists from the internet, you can then use multiple applications such as squid for example, or just your /etc/hosts file to use them
[15:28] <Middle> cesarstafe: I believe that is proprietry so you need to download it from sun directly
[15:29] <chson> cesarstafe: I believe there is a repo you can to get sun-java6 apt-getable
[15:29] <Bunie> i want to know about how ubuntu updates.
[15:29] <Bunie> ive been told different things about it
[15:29] <auronandace> !partner | cesarstafe
[15:29] <bahar_> thanks to all for the answers
[15:29] <cesarstafe> Middle: mmm.. some guys suggest to add a new repo
[15:29] <Middle> chson: Probably the sun repo (Kinda like for ffcx 8 you need the mozilla repo)
[15:29] <Bunie> if i install say Ubuntu 11.10 and then 12.04 comes out
[15:29] <Bunie> what do i do
[15:30] <cesarstafe> but i did it without luck
[15:30] <Bunie> apt-get upgrade?
[15:30] <cesarstafe> I did
[15:30] <auronandace> Bunie: you can upgrade when it comes out
[15:30] <Middle> Think so
[15:30] <ikonia> !upgrade > Bunie
[15:30] <ikonia> Bunie: well documented in the link ubottu just pm'd you
[15:30] <Middle> Bunie: It will give you an option to upgrade when a new version is dettected
[15:30] <chson> Middle: probably.. whatever it is it was like the first hit on google.
[15:30] <ikonia> Middle: no it won't as it's an LTS release
[15:31] <cesarstafe> I added a report with that ... add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner"
[15:31] <Bunie> so just apt-get upgrade? D: Just say yes or no ._. lolz
[15:31] <Middle> ikonia: touche
[15:31] <auronandace> Bunie: apt-get upgrade installs updates for your current version, it will not upgrade you to the next version
[15:31] <Bunie> oh
[15:31] <Bunie> k
[15:31] <Bunie> ill check the document then
[15:31] <Bunie> thanks :D
[15:31] <proxx8187> omg spoonfeeding detected
[15:31] <FloodBot1> Bunie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:31] <cesarstafe> and after that doesn't exist sun-java6-jdk
[15:31] <auronandace> Bunie: please stop saying lol
[15:31] <Middle> Any idea what ubottu is written in?
[15:32] <Bunie> auronandace: Habbit, my apologies ^^
[15:32] <ikonia> Middle: many language
[15:32] <technel> When I alt+tab, Unity restarts. Sometimes it fails and window title bars disappear, with the keyboard unusable. There are sporadic references to this on Google with no solutions. What do I do?!
[15:32] <ikonia> Middle: ooh, sorry ubottu
[15:32] <ska> How do I do an update, but keep the current kernel? (it wants to install a new kernel-image).
[15:32] <ikonia> Middle: python
[15:32] <Bunie> technel: Sounds like a driver issue, but im the noob in the room.
[15:32] <ikonia> ska: package pinning
[15:32] <auronandace> technel: compiz is rather buggy
[15:32] <Middle> cesarstafe: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk-7u3-download-1501626.html
[15:32] <technel> Bunie: I'm using the open-source Radeon driver, which is what the Ubuntu wiki recommends for my card (it's listed on the supported cards).
[15:33] <auronandace> technel: compiz --replace
[15:33] <ikonia> technel: doens't mean it's "good", it recommends the "best" option not all singing all working option
[15:33] <cesarstafe> I added a repository with that ... add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner"
[15:33] <cesarstafe> Middle: ok, I will see how to download it to my server
[15:33] <Middle> technel: I suggest maybe trying hte proprietry driver, it worked better for me than the community one, I had a 5870
[15:34] <Middle> cesarstafe: wget <link to the versiojn you want>
[15:34] <ikonia> cesarstafe: sudo apt-get update - the software from that repo are now visible to you
[15:34] <Bunie> ikonia: im about to reboot to install ubuntu. If my wireless card doesnt work, what do i do? come back here and cry to you? :3
[15:34] <ikonia> Bunie: try to fix it with many of the support resources available
[15:34] <Bunie> but ill be offline.
[15:34] <technel> auronandace: A cursory web search shows if I remove Compiz, Unity goes too... is that correct?
[15:34] <cesarstafe> ikonia: I did an apt get update
[15:34] <proxx8187> bunie: no go google
[15:35] <ikonia> Bunie: then why ask a silly question ?
[15:35] <auronandace> Bunie: use the ethernet cable
[15:35] <cesarstafe> but it didn't bring me the package
[15:35] <Middle> Bunie: If it doesn't work straight away, it probably will work fine, then get an ethernet cable and ocme back
[15:35] <Toph2> auronandace,,, i'm having issues with 11.01. After a day of service my computer slows down almost to hanging ans compiz is taking up a lot of the resources,, can I run without compiz and if so, how?
[15:35] <Bunie> thats actually a good idea, Auron.
[15:35] <technel> Middle: Hmm, okay, I will give it a go (I have a 6850)
[15:35] <ikonia> cesarstafe: it does, if you do apt-get update it will update your repo, you can now use the package manager to search for the software you want
[15:35] <auronandace> technel: unity uses compiz as its window manager, so i guess its true
[15:35] <Middle> technel: Yeah the proprietry drivers for ATI are still shit but ffor high end cars I think they are a bit better
[15:35] <ikonia> Middle: no need for that language
[15:36] <cesarstafe> ikonia: ok, I will try again
[15:36] <Middle> ikonia: Sorry, we are all adults
[15:36] <ikonia> Middle: no, we are not, all ages/races/genders in here
[15:36] <auronandace> Toph2: i use xfce, i don't use unity or compiz
[15:36] <proxx8187> adult... genders.... lol women arnt adults :P
[15:36] <auronandace> Toph2: so yes, you can run ubuntu without all the fancy effects
[15:37] <Toph2> auronandace,,, i should try that,, see if it makes a difference
[15:37] <Toph2> i don't need the fancy
[15:37] <Middle> ikonia: I won't swear again but, I stil se it as a ridiculous rule. If I was being offensive to a user of the channel then yes, but that was just a casual use of the language that was clearly more descriptive than offensive
[15:37] <auronandace> Toph2: unity also has a non-compiz version using qt, unity2d
[15:37] <cesarstafe> ikonia: nope, after an apt-get update I have searched sun-java6-jdk and nothing appears
[15:37] <Toph2> auronandace,,, thanks
[15:37] <Middle> Toph2: You could also try a different Desktop Environment
[15:37] <auronandace> Toph2: should be available in the login screen
[15:38] <Middle> cesarstafe: You need to download the version you want from the link I sent you
[15:38] <ikonia> cesarstafe: do you know if it's in that repo ?
[15:38] <ikonia> !info sun-java6-jdk
[15:38] <ikonia> so it's totally been removed
[15:38] <Middle> cesarstafe: Because oracle produces it, its not open source
[15:39] <Middle> cesarstafe: So go and download it from orcales website
[15:39] <cesarstafe> Middle: yes, I know... Oracle is the responsible for this
[15:39] <ska> How can I tell system to pick a particular kernel for boot? Edit grub.cfg? or is there a smoother way?
[15:40] <cesarstafe> ikonia: I am not the only one that doesn't have goog luck with that
[15:40] <cesarstafe> https://twitter.com/#!/sylvaingarcia/statuses/174949118345609216
[15:40] <gvo> ska grub or grub2?
[15:40] <ikonia> cesarstafe: probably because it's been "removed"
[15:40] <cesarstafe> yes, I hate that
[15:41] <ska> gvo:  1.98-1ubuntu13 grub
[15:41] <ikonia> ska: grub2
[15:41] <Middle> Anyone else dislike grub2, I found grub so easy to edit etc...
[15:41] <ska> ikonia: grub2 and ?
[15:42] <Middle> ska: You are using grub2 most likely
[15:42] <ikonia> Middle: it's not a poll channel, it's a support channel
[15:42] <ikonia> !grub2 > ska
[15:42] <ikonia> ska: ubottu's just pm'd you a link that explains how to change grub2 config
[15:42] <Middle> ikonia: Just light conversation :P
[15:42] <Fraz> hi
[15:42] <ikonia> Middle: it's not a chat channel
[15:43] <Fraz> im new to ununtu/linux and im trying to setup a script to run when i boot
[15:43] <chmouel> anybody knows why I could not find lxcguest on precise?
[15:43] <Guest86201> hi everyone, finally get in here
[15:43] <Fraz> using xintrc
[15:43] <auronandace> chmouel: 12.04 support in #ubuntu+1 until it is released please
[15:43] <Middle> Fraz: You can probably set up a startup script from the menu's or using rc.d
[15:44] <sacarlson> Fraz: another option is cron event with @reboot
[15:44] <auronandace> !upstart | Fraz
[15:44] <Middle> Fraz: there are a lot of ways, easiest is probably just to do it through a menu item (If you are using desktop edition)
[15:44] <sunropid> Hello I formatted a partition by mistake (ext3 to ext4), and i have not touched it since then. how can i recover it?
[15:44] <chmouel> auronandace: cheers
[15:44] <Bunie> Time to reboot
[15:44] <Bunie> wish me luck :D
[15:44] <Bunie> bye guys.
[15:45] <Middle> Bunie: Bye
[15:45] <Fraz> yes im using a desktop edition
[15:45] <auronandace> Bunie: don't need luck, have fun
[15:45] <Bunie> Lol
[15:45] <Middle> ^
[15:45] <Bunie> ONE MORE THING
[15:45] <Bunie> Ubuntu has Truecrypt yes?
[15:45] <Middle> It is available
[15:45] <Bunie> i just remembered all my drives r encrypted >3>
[15:45] <Middle> I can't say if it is inluceded by default
[15:45] <ikonia> Bunie: yes, but I'd strongly advice against using it unless you really have to
[15:45] <gvo> didn't Fraz mention xinitrc?  That's for affecting X behavior.
[15:45] <ikonia> yes, it has truecrypt
[15:45] <Bunie> thats going to make this difficult isnt it XD
[15:45] <Middle> gvo: well spotted
[15:45] <Bunie> my system drive is encrypted
[15:46] <ska> I'm simply going to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg and move MY kernel entry to the top position.
[15:46] <Bunie> going to try to shrink it
[15:46] <Fraz> yes i want to change the mouse sensitivity when i boot up
[15:46] <ska> I see no other obvious way.
[15:46] <ikonia> ska: it won't work
[15:46] <Bunie> prolly ruin my drive. :3 bye guys
[15:46] <gvo> ska /etc/default/grub
[15:46] <Middle> Fraz: You may want to look at Xorg.conf
[15:46] <gvo> That's the file you need to change.
[15:46] <auronandace> ska: there is also /etc/default/grub that you can alter
[15:46] <ikonia> ska: the next update you get, it will override it
[15:46] <Middle> Fraz: Can't you do that from the preferences menu thogh?
[15:47] <proxx8187> finally hes gone
[15:47] <ska> ok..
[15:47] <Fraz> Middle, yeah but its on the lowest setting
[15:47] <Fraz> the sliders are way down at the bottom
[15:47] <Middle> Can't you change it?
[15:47] <Middle> Fraz: So slide them up?
[15:47] <Fraz> i want to make it less sensitive:P
[15:47] <Middle> Oh
[15:47] <ska> gvo: So I edit /etc/default/grub and select the appropriate number for booti?
[15:48] <Fraz> ive already done it in the terminal but i want to do it auto when i boot
[15:48] <Middle> Okay urm not sure where Xorg.conf is on Ubuntu but in that file you should be able to edit your X settings
[15:48] <Fraz> ok cool thanks
[15:48] <Fraz> ill take a look
[15:48] <proxx8187> xorg.conf is not used by default, at least not anymore.
[15:48] <auronandace> Middle: xorg.conf isn't used by default anymore
[15:48] <Middle> Fraz: /etc/X11/Xorg.conf on FreeBSD, but that may not be of help. And what command did you do to lower the sensitivity?
[15:48] <gvo> ska edit /etc/default/grub and then run sudo update-grub
[15:49] <Fraz> hm
[15:49] <Middle> auronandace: Ah okay scrap that
[15:49] <Middle> Fraz: Scrap Xorg.conf
[15:49] <Fraz> yeah i saw
[15:49] <ezoe> hi. is casper-rw persistent file required for booting from USB flash drive? Ubuntu failed to boot.
[15:49] <auronandace> Middle: it does depend on your driver though, i think nvidia sticks with a xorg.conf
[15:49] <ska> gvo: I see in the docs where it allows you to specify the menuentry title as well.
[15:50] <gvo> Sure
[15:50] <Fraz> well i have an nvidia card. what does that mean? xorg.conf is used?
[15:50] <compdoc> Im upgrading a server from 11.04 to 11.10 - wish me luck!
[15:50] <gvo> Good luck.
[15:51] <gvo> Don't be surprise if it doesn't work.
[15:51] <gvo> surprised.
[15:51] <auronandace> Fraz: if you use the nvidia (not nouveau) driver then most likely yes
[15:51] <Middle> Fraz: I think it will be easier for you to just add the command you want to run to a startup location, I'm just not entirely sure what Ubuntu uses nowadays
[15:52] <sacarlson> Fraz: I think the xorg.conf just overrides the default settings as nvidea does when they force there driver to be used instead of default
[15:52] <auronandace> Fraz: quickest way is to just check in /etc/X11/
[15:52] <Middle> Does Ubuntu use rc.d and init for startup stuff?
[15:52] <auronandace> !upstart | Middle
[15:52] <Middle> Cheers
[15:53] <ska> ikonia, gvo, ikonia, auronandace: TY TY TY
[15:53] <auronandace> ska: no worries :)
[15:53] <gvo> ska np
[15:53] <Fraz> auronandace, what am i checking for though lol
[15:53] <auronandace> Middle: i have no experience with upstart (i prefer the archlinux rc.conf way myself)
[15:54] <Middle> auronandace: Ah rc.conf that was what I was thinking of
[15:54] <Middle> auronandace: FreeBSD uses that too :)
[15:54] <Middle> Fraz: You are looking for a file called Xorg.conf
[15:54] <sun_devil> My ubuntu email client will not let me send email using google account?
[15:54] <gvo> Anyone know the reasoning for upstart?  Sys V init has been around well almost forever and works well,.
[15:54] <Middle> Fraz: It will be in /etc/X11/ IF it exists
[15:54] <Fraz> oh
[15:54] <Fraz> yeah its there
[15:55] <gvo> Middle: that's with a small letter x
[15:55] <Middle> Fraz: Urm then if you want to try editing it to slow your mouse down then you will need to google modifying xorg.conf to reduce mouse sensitivity
[15:55] <Fraz> Section "Device"
[15:55] <Fraz> 	Identifier	"Default Device"
[15:55] <Fraz> 	Option	"NoLogo"	"True"
[15:55] <Fraz> EndSection
[15:55] <gvo> Fraz it's probably fairly generic.
[15:55] <FloodBot1> Fraz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:55] <Middle> gvo: thanks
[15:55] <Fraz> thats in that file
[15:55] <Fraz> sorry
[15:56] <auronandace> gvo: actually it is X11
[15:56] <Middle> Fraz: Seach that file for sensitivity
[15:56] <Fraz> http://pastebin.com/AqGLLiKd << this is all that's in xorg.conf
[15:57] <gvo> auronandace: yes but not Xorg.conf
[15:57] <Middle> Fraz: ah okay
[15:57] <auronandace> gvo: ah, sorry
[15:57] <c3sso> hello
[15:57] <Middle> What was the command to get the sensitivity to how you wanted it?
[15:57] <Middle> howdy
[15:57] <AminosAmigos> Apple iPad 3 Goes On Sale 8.00 AM Friday 16th March
[15:57] <ikonia> AminosAmigos: not interested in this channel
[15:57] <c3sso> uhm, does somebody know: is ist opssible to change the default file open dialog from recently used to last used folder?
[15:57] <auronandace> AminosAmigos: no adverts please
[15:58] <ikonia> AminosAmigos: ubuntu technical support discussion please.
[15:58] <sun_devil> My evolution mail client has unsent messages that it will not send?
[15:58] <Fraz> xinput --set-prop 8 "Device Accel Constant Deceleration" 5
[15:58] <AminosAmigos> ok just sharing the news ;) sorry
[15:58] <Middle> Fraz: okay now can you go to Preferences > Startup? Or somehting of that nature?
[15:58] <ikonia> AminosAmigos: people can read apple.com on their own, thanks
[15:58] <c3sso> the great zeit geist is, I really do not want it in my file open dialog as default.
[15:59] <Middle> I would have alos thought that an Ubuntu IRC channel is quite the opposite of apples target market
[15:59] <Fraz> hm
[15:59] <Fraz> dont think so
[15:59] <Fraz> i have looked for a system startup option
[15:59] <Middle> Fraz: What version are you on?
[15:59] <Fraz> 11:10
[15:59] <Fraz> 11.10
[16:00] <Middle> Fraz: Well 10.10 had an option in Administration > Startup not sure about 11.10... Can't you just Google "Startup programs on ubuntu 11.10"
[16:00] <auronandace> !google
[16:01] <c3sso> it distracts me when when I want to write the address in the address bar, I have to click first before I can write.......