[01:43] <Seveas> jamiecramb, baybe you can find more info on the firewire part on the forums
[01:43] <Seveas> maybe*
[01:43] <holycow> heh
[01:43] <DunkMaster> hi Seveas
[01:44] <omV0> HappyFool: thanks!!!
[01:44] <enrique> Seveas: shall i just then use official repositories ONLY?
[01:44] <Seveas> enrique, that is the best
[01:44] <jamiecramb> ok ta for ur help seveas :)
[01:44] <tga> @#$@#$ I sudo halted the wrong machine again
[01:44] <Seveas> lol tga :)
[01:45] <Raptoid> sudo -s -H -V 003 -d
[01:45] <DunkMaster> Seveas: i had to reinstall ubuntu, but now all works
[01:45] <enrique> ok
[01:45] <enrique> thanks Seveas ;)
[01:45] <Seveas> DunkMaster, nice to know
[01:45] <DunkMaster> and i got wine
[01:45] <DunkMaster> weeee
[01:45] <DunkMaster> lol
[01:45] <Seveas> DunkMaster, please don't screw things up anymore, ok?
[01:45] <Seveas> ;)
[01:45] <DunkMaster> ok
[01:45] <DunkMaster> :)
[01:45] <DunkMaster> will be very carefull with sudo
[01:49] <nikolaus> how compatible is ubuntu with debain-sarge? and if there is a compatibility, will there be one in the future too?
[01:50] <DunkMaster> bbl
[01:51] <Seveas> nikolaus, ubuntu is based on debian sid, so most package in ubuntu are newer than the ones in sarge
[01:51] <chocoIate> is debian-sarge any good :o
[01:51] <Seveas> chocoIate, it's very good
[01:51] <chocoIate> would that fix my problem with driver issues :o
[01:52] <Seveas> no :)
[01:52] <chocoIate> :/
[01:52] <Seveas> debian is even more picky about non-free stuff
[01:52] <chocoIate> i still aint got a working modem
[01:52] <chocoIate> :(
[01:52] <Seveas> that sucks
[01:52] <Seveas> so cdc-acm didn't work?
[01:53] <chocoIate> yep. I'm left with a last option ; and thats to purchase an avm fritz modem, it seems avm is providing lin drivers for all their models
[01:53] <Seveas> chocoIate, eeeek
[01:53] <chocoIate> well, all those steps worked Seveas ; without any problems
[01:53] <Seveas> fritz is non-free too
[01:53] <Seveas> best option is to buy a modem that connects over  serial port
[01:53] <chocoIate> so what do you recommend my purchasing
[01:54] <chocoIate> well, i have seen a few modems that connect over serial but they dont have lin drivers supplied
[01:54] <Seveas> chocoIate, generic modem drivers will do there
[01:54] <chocoIate> i'm afraid to purchase and then find out i'm in the same situation i am in now
[01:54] <hemppa> when i click cdrom icon ubuntu opens window that haven't "back" and "up" buttons
[01:54] <Seveas> chocoIate, then purchase one and on purchase reserve the right to trade it it when it doesn't work with linux
[01:55] <hemppa> how i can get those buttons
[01:55] <Seveas> i do that sometimes at my local hardware shop
[01:55] <chocoIate> by the way Seveas ; i tried out all those steps from yesteday and i got to modprobe all those modules etc
[01:55] <chocoIate> however after all that in the end when i do a pon, nothing happens :S
[01:55] <Seveas> hemppa, in that window you go to edit->preferences
[01:55] <chocoIate> see, i'm unable to make the connection and dial, and i dont even know if i got it working or not
[01:55] <Seveas> hemppa, then go to the behaviour tab
[01:56] <hemppa> ok
[01:56] <Seveas> hemppa, and then select always open in browser windows
[01:56] <Seveas> chocoIate, hmm, sounds like it should almost be working
[01:56] <hemppa> great, thanks a lot
[01:56] <chocoIate> how do i configure isdn now is what i want to know, i guess the usb parts are working or should be
[01:57] <Seveas> chocoIate, post it on the mailing list, together with the output of dmesg and the steps you have taken. I'm sure there are dial-up experts to help you through this last part
[01:57] <chocoIate> i am unable to find a proper guide online
[01:57] <chocoIate> oh, how do i get on the mailing list :o
[01:57] <jinxi> hi
[01:57] <chocoIate> i use google groups
[01:57] <jinxi> can I do this?
[01:57] <jinxi> mount -o remount /
[01:57] <Seveas> chocoIate, http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
[01:58] <chocoIate> is that on usenet :o
[01:58] <Seveas> chocoIate, you have to subscribe there
[01:58] <Seveas> no it's a mailing list, so it's e-mail
[01:58] <chocoIate> oh
[01:58] <liable> chocoIate: install wvdial
[01:58] <othernoob> what does "setting sensors limits" mean during booting ?
[01:59] <chocoIate> liable : wvdialconf create just comes back to tell me that there is no modem detected
[01:59] <liable> chocoIate: hmm, ok, one sec
[01:59] <glassor> hey, im trying to play dvix/xvid files with totem but i get an error massges about codecs.. i installed the mplayer codecs under /usr/local/lib/codecs any suggestions ?
[02:00] <edwin> hi, after editing/etc/profile, do i need to restart the machine for the changes take effect?
[02:00] <liable> chocoIate: whats the actual modem your using?
[02:00] <chocoIate> psion gold port ISDN
[02:01] <Seveas> edwin, /etc/profile is parsed for every shell you open
[02:01] <edwin> icic, thx
[02:01] <chocoIate> in device manger its listed as VIgor 128 ISDN TA
[02:01] <chocoIate> no idea why, but i dont think it matters
[02:04] <Ali_Baba> othernoob: setting sensors that give you information about temperatures and volts etc.
[02:05] <othernoob> Ali_Baba okay, mmh, it fails on my pc, would you know why ?
[02:07] <linukso> glassor: install gtreamer-plugin
[02:07] <bdmp> Can someone tell me where linux stores program files like gaim?
[02:07] <liable> chocoIate: this is usb, not pcmcia, right?
[02:07] <Ali_Baba> othernoob: im not sure,it failed first with me too.try sensors-detect
[02:07] <Ali_Baba> on terminal.
[02:07] <linukso> bdmp: binaries in /usr/bin
[02:07] <bdmp> thanks
[02:08] <linukso> bdmp: but /usr/bin should be in you path, so you can just type gaim
[02:08] <rwabel_> ubuntu forum is down right?
[02:08] <Burgundavia> bdmp, is there are reason you need to know where they are?
[02:08] <Burgundavia> rwabel_, not for me
[02:08] <Burgundavia> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[02:08] <rwabel_> strange
[02:08] <Burgundavia> does that link work?
[02:08] <rwabel_> no
[02:09] <linukso> bdmp: if you search for gaim in synaptic you can rightclick on it and take a look at all the files that is in that package
[02:09] <rwabel_> mhh I've to try it with another browser than firefox
[02:09] <Ali_Baba> othernoob: i got my sensors working after i updated my ubuntu.not sure how :)
[02:09] <chocoIate> yeah, this is an external usb modem
[02:09] <chocoIate> not pci, not pcmcia
[02:09] <count0nz> Forums works here and i am in New Zealand :)
[02:09] <rwabel_> burgundavia: you was right...just didn't work in my firefox today. don't know why.
[02:10] <bdmp> I am trying to install a plugin that will make the Japanese font in Gaim larger. So I have to put it in the plugin folder
[02:10] <bdmp> I found the .bin file but no folder
[02:10] <linukso> bdmp: you can just put it in ~/.gaim/plugins
[02:10] <latis> any1 got cedega running in ubuntu?
[02:10] <bdmp> where is that folder
[02:11] <linukso> bdmp: in you home directory
[02:11] <bdmp> oh
[02:11] <bdmp> Thanks
[02:11] <linukso> or you have to make
[02:11] <linukso> it
[02:11] <bdmp> Ah the squiggle means my home directory?
[02:11] <linukso> bdmp: ~ means /home/"your username"/
[02:11] <bdmp> cool thanks
[02:12] <rwabel_> brgundavia: problem were cookies. I deleted them and now it's working again..guess firefox get in trouble after a crash (hell does that browser crash often)
[02:13] <Burgundavia> rwabel_, funny, I have only had it crash once in the past 2 months
[02:14] <rwabel_> brugundavia: unlucky me :-) and I'm using the latest version...I don't give up the hope that onetime it will work as under windows
[02:15] <Burgundavia> rwabel_, I am running 1.0.4 on breezy, with no breakage yet
[02:15] <Ali_Baba> me too :)
[02:16] <rwabel_> I'm still under hoary with backported firefox
[02:16] <chocoIate> brb
[02:16] <Seveas> ah backports
[02:16] <rwabel_> I'm waiting some more months before updating to breezy
[02:16] <Seveas> backports suck
[02:16] <latis> hey, plz. How do I install lib32?
[02:16] <rwabel_> only way to get the fixed version
[02:16] <liable> chocoIate: ok, so all the modules were loaded and then you ran wvdialconf, and it didnt find it?
[02:16] <latis> I just have /usr/lib
[02:16] <latis> need /usr/lib32
[02:16] <Seveas> rwabel_, no, FF in ubuntu has all fixes
[02:16] <rwabel_> seveas: don't like having some important bugs in it
[02:17] <rwabel_> seveas: but firefox 1.0.4 is only in backport
[02:17] <Seveas> rwabel_, well, FF in ubuntu has all bugs fixed (all 1.0.4 patches appllied)
[02:17] <Seveas> seems like 1.0.4 in backports introduces new bugs
[02:17] <Seveas> once again, backports suck
[02:18] <rwabel_> where do you know that there are new bugs?
[02:18] <Seveas> AndyR, breezy is in X.org and C++ transition
[02:18] <rwabel_> new mono rules from backport btw :-)
[02:18] <Seveas> rwabel_, every new feature introduces new bugs, that's simply a fact
[02:18] <HappyFool> i think one of the principles is that security and other critical fixes will be included in updates
[02:18] <Seveas> and the fact that your FF crashes says something too
[02:19] <rwabel_> seveas: right, but 1.0.4 is 1.0.4 and ubuntu doesn't upgrade to 1.0.4 because they introduced new features among fixing some security holes
[02:19] <Seveas> rwabel_, well, good luck upgrading to an official ubuntu mono
[02:19] <Seveas> that'll give you hell
[02:19] <Seveas> since the backport will have screwed up a lot
[02:19] <Seveas> rwabel_, again: FF in ubuntu is patched with all FF 1.0.4 security fixes
[02:20] <Seveas> so there really is no need to use backports
[02:20] <Seveas> darkaudit, you've been lucke then :)
[02:20] <darkaudit> Seveas: but the firefox site rejects it as being their current version
[02:20] <bdmp> I got another question the faq says put the plugin file in the plugins folder and then run " Go into your gaim/plugins dir in your extrated gaim source. Save unicode.c into that dir, make sure you have a ~/.gaim/plugins dir and then do $make unicode.so
[02:20] <bdmp> $cp unicode.so ~/.gaim/plugins/
[02:20] <bdmp> " but the firest command "make" comes back with "make: *** No rule to make target `unicode.so'.  Stop. What rule do I need?
[02:20] <Seveas> darkaudit, let it fake its User-Agent string...
[02:20] <rwabel_> seveas: didn't know that they updated to 1.0.4...must have taken a while then
[02:21] <bdmp> oops. that didn't make sense
[02:21] <Seveas> bdmp, not really :)
[02:22] <darkaudit> Hoary's FF is even behind Sarge at this point...
[02:22] <N3OP5YcH-e> #EffACE
[02:22] <Seveas> N3OP5YcH-e, stop spamming...
[02:22] <Seveas> dark, hoary is frozen. sarge not.
[02:23] <Seveas> well, sarge is now
[02:23] <Seveas> but it gor frozen later
[02:23] <N3OP5YcH-e> misteak
[02:23] <N3OP5YcH-e> there is no such channel
[02:23] <AndyR> best to do a hoary -->> breezy update or use a daily iso if there is 1?
[02:23] <N3OP5YcH-e> trying to reach a friend
[02:23] <bdmp> I got another question. the faq says put the plugin file in the plugins folder and then run " $cp unicode.so ~/.gaim/plugins/
[02:23] <bdmp>  " but the firest command "make" comes back with "make: *** No rule to make target `unicode.so'.  Stop. What rule do I need?
[02:23] <Seveas> AndyR, best stay on hoary ;)
[02:23] <Seveas> but there is a colony cd already
[02:23] <Seveas> use that one
[02:24] <darkaudit> AndyR: neither... there is major breakage in progress
[02:24] <Seveas> and don't upgrade that for a week because there is breakage going on npw
[02:24] <AndyR> ok i will wait a bit then
[02:24] <Seveas> AndyR, the colony cd can be used
[02:25] <AudioDef> Has anyone successfully gotten the screen res over 800x600 on an Intel 855GM integrated graphics chipset? Nothing I've done, including Intel's own drivers and 855resolution, seems to work.
[02:25] <darkaudit> breakage like Ralphie's Toyota this morning @ Monaco :)
[02:25] <Seveas> lol darkaudit
[02:25] <AndyR> colony cd?
[02:26] <Seveas> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/colony-1/
[02:28] <edwin> how to setup global variable?? i tried altering /etc/profile, but it doesn't work
[02:28] <bdmp> I'm really sorry.  I messed it up again. I am following a faq.  It says " Go into your gaim/plugins dir in your extrated gaim source. Save unicode.c into that dir, make sure you have a ~/.gaim/plugins dir and then do $make unicode.so
[02:28] <bdmp> $cp unicode.so ~/.gaim/plugins/" But I get "make: *** No rule to make target `unicode.so'.  Stop.
[02:28] <bdmp> " after the first command.  What rule do I need?
[02:28] <albertor> hi
[02:28] <albertor> I have a question
[02:29] <HappyFool> albertor: ask ;)
[02:29] <albertor> where is the file to configure the boot on ubuntu_
[02:29] <albertor> ?
[02:29] <Seveas>  /boot/grub.menu.lst
[02:30] <HappyFool> edwin: what variable are you trying to set, and why?
[02:30] <albertor> I found that, thank you
[02:30] <edwin> i need to add /usr/local/java to path and then i need to make a java_home variable
[02:31] <HappyFool> edwin: do you need this only in shells, or also in the desktop?
[02:31] <count0nz> bdmp,  what happens if you just type make unicoke.c
[02:31] <edwin> both i guess, i need this to run eclipse
[02:32] <Seveas> count0nz, that's stupid :)
[02:32] <HappyFool> edwin: you can edit ~/.bashrc, adding something like 'export PATH=$PATH:/usr/loca/java' and 'export JAVA_HOME=<whatever>'
[02:32] <HappyFool> ah
[02:32] <HappyFool> editing .bashrc only applies for shells
[02:32] <Seveas> bdmp did you get a Makefile?
[02:32] <Seveas> or just unicode.c?
[02:32] <HappyFool> edwin: i'm not sure where to set PATH
[02:32] <count0nz> Seveas, i thourt he was typeing make unicode.so
[02:32] <bdmp> just the unicode .c
[02:33] <HappyFool> edwin: i think it might be /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf (for PATH)
[02:33] <Seveas> bdmp, try this: gcc -o unicode.so -shared -Wall -O3 unicode.c
[02:33] <bdmp> ok
[02:33] <count0nz> Seveas, :) that looks better.. i'me 1/2 asleep
[02:34] <HappyFool> edwin: for other variables I added a file in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ with a name like 50xorg-custom and a line 'export JAVA_HOME = <whatever>'
[02:34] <DunkMaster> hello again
[02:34] <DunkMaster> i forgot one thing
[02:34] <DunkMaster> when i play MP3s in XMMS , it hangs
[02:34] <Seveas> DunkMaster, change the xmms output to esound
[02:34] <DunkMaster> Seveas, i know that, but where
[02:34] <DunkMaster> ive done it b4
[02:34] <DunkMaster> but i forgot
[02:35] <Seveas> DunkMaster, and try beep-media-player too, it's a gtk2 port of xmms
[02:35] <bdmp> Seveas: I got a lot back. Is there something I am looking for?
[02:35] <Seveas> bdmp, paste the output on ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[02:35] <Seveas> DunkMaster, output_plugin=/usr/lib/xmms/Output/libesdout.so
[02:35] <Seveas> in ~/.xmms/config
[02:35] <bdmp> is that a channel ? can i do  /join #ubuntu...?
[02:35] <DunkMaster> ok
[02:36] <DunkMaster> ty
[02:36] <Seveas> bdmp, it's a website: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[02:36] <bdmp> ok
[02:37] <bdmp> Seveas: did it.
[02:38] <Seveas> bdmp, hmm, looks like it's not gonna work :)
[02:39] <Seveas> bdmp, where did you get it, i want to take a look at it
[02:39] <Tron|BoRG> Hi, has anyone had problems getting gnome-art installed?
[02:39] <bdmp> http://oregonstate.edu/~siefkenj/programming/gaimunicodeplugin.php
[02:39] <Tron|BoRG> or should I say: working
[02:40] <Funraiser> Tron|BoRG, never
[02:40] <Tron|BoRG> ok hehe
[02:40] <Seveas> bdmp, ah, you need to put it in the extracted sources, figures :)
[02:40] <Seveas> bdmp, hang on
[02:41] <Seveas> i'll build it for you
[02:41] <naderman> hello, I just installed ubuntu, I need ndiswrapper to load a driver for my wlan card, I downloaded on a different machine and put it on a usb stick, but ubuntu doesn't recognize the stick, I am using warty cause I cannot update before I have an internet connection.
[02:41] <r0d> is their a function in apt-get to search for packages?
[02:41] <naderman> r0d: apt-cache search xxx
[02:41] <r0d> dont see one in the man, thought i'd ask anyways..
[02:41] <r0d> kool
[02:41] <Funraiser> hi everybody ;-) i have a question: could someone tell me if he can connect to http://www.magnatune.com with xine (select a song with xine) because since i installed kubuntu it's not working anymore...:-/
[02:42] <r0d> apt-cache search amap
[02:42] <r0d> didnt work in bash....somethings wrong
[02:42] <naderman> well doesn't find anything for me, but I don't have an internet connection atm ^_^
[02:43] <Funraiser> naderman, talking to me?
[02:43] <Tron|BoRG> Funraiser: are you using gnome-art now?
[02:43] <count0nz> r0d, you may need to apt-get install apt-cache
[02:43] <HappyFool> r0d: what error do you get?
[02:43] <r0d> it sees some apps. not as big as portage but better than nothing
[02:43] <naderman> Funraiser: to r0d
[02:44] <r0d> it just didnt see my request thats all. shouldnt of called it an error. sorry
[02:44] <Seveas> r0d, if apt-cache doesn;t find something: make sure you have universe and multiverse enabled
[02:45] <Funraiser> Tron|BoRG, well i installed stuff from http://art.gnome.org/ yes, and it worked, is that your question?
[02:45] <Funraiser> so nobody for http://www.magnatune.com with xine?
[02:45] <cusco> ReAd: hi ya
[02:45] <ReAd> hey :D
[02:45] <r0d> thx Seveas  i do
[02:46] <naderman> do I need to have any other modules than usbcore loaded to make hotplug recognize the usb stick?
[02:46] <cusco> I everyone... I just converted my friend ReAd to use ubuntu... altho his soundcard is not working
[02:46] <Tron|BoRG> Funraiser: I am reffering to this: http://www.miketech.net/gnome-art/
[02:46] <cusco> we both would like to fix that!
[02:46] <cusco> any ideas please?
[02:46] <ubuntu> well this is nice sound not working here either
[02:46] <cusco> ubuntu: :(
[02:46] <ubuntu> audigy here
[02:46] <Seveas> cusco/ReAd, what type of soundcard?
[02:47] <r0d> is their a way to customize your kernel in the installation of ubuntu? because the basic kernel seems bloated. I know i can compile myself one.
[02:47] <ReAd> SIS si7012
[02:47] <nubbe> How do I schedule a fsck (with repair) on the next boot (ext3)?
[02:47] <Seveas> r0d, the easiest is to apt-get source the kernel source and change the .config
[02:47] <naderman> ReAd: doesn't it work with ac97 codec?
[02:47] <Funraiser> Tron|BoRG, oh i never used it, i download directly from art.gnome.org and it works...(?)
[02:47] <r0d> so i have to install first before customizing Seveas ?
[02:48] <GNAM> server tracker down
[02:48] <cusco> naderman: how can we install ac97 codec?
[02:48] <Seveas> r0d, apt-get source downloads the ubuntu kernel source
[02:48] <Seveas> it's easier to start from there and remove unneeded things :)
[02:48] <naderman> ReAd: I think you should have loaded snd_ac97_codec, and for me it was in the normal ubuntu
[02:48] <resiak> cusco: What chipset is it?
[02:48] <r0d> i c. thx alittle different to what im use to.
[02:48] <resiak> cusco: Search in lsmod's output.
[02:48] <naderman> cusco: try lsmod|grep snd_ac97_codec
[02:48] <resiak> cusco: More to the point, lsmod | grep modem
[02:49] <resiak> cusco: (trust me on this one.)
[02:49] <ka24> nubbe: touch /forcefsck will do, or shutdown -F -r
[02:49] <ReAd> snd_ac97_codec         64608  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_intel8x0
[02:49] <ReAd> snd_pcm                84872  4 snd_emu10k1,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
[02:49] <ReAd> snd                    50276  10 snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_hwdep,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
[02:50] <ReAd> naderman,
[02:50] <nubbe> ka24, Thanks a lot
[02:50] <r0d> ubuntu is so easy to install. i love it. I'm coming from a gentoo installation and this is heaven...
[02:50] <resiak> No _modem stuff? :(
[02:50] <naderman> hmm, looks as if it should work, no idea in that case ReAd
[02:50] <cusco> resiak: no modem stuff :(
[02:50] <ubuntu> im just giving the live cd a blast - im impressed
[02:50] <resiak> cusco: Oh well. It was worth a shot. That's the standard problem. I'll shut up again.
[02:51] <cusco> lol...
[02:51] <cusco> we will try the foruns
[02:51] <naderman> anybody for my question?
[02:51] <Seveas> cusco, try the mailing lists too, that's where the devs hang out :)
[02:51] <ubuntu> total novice sorry
[02:52] <cusco> lol... thanks Seveas
[02:52] <nubbe> ka24, do I need to remove /forcefsck after check or just touch it next time I need to check?
[02:52] <ka24> not sure whether it removes that or not.. my guess would be that you have to do it
[02:53] <Funraiser> please can someone try this website with xine and tell me if it works? http://www.magnatune.com :-)
[02:53] <bdmp> What file fundraiser?
[02:53] <Funraiser> any
[02:53] <bdmp> mp3?
[02:53] <Funraiser> just pick a song
[02:54] <theD3viL> where in gaim you can set bigger fonts ?
[02:54] <bdmp> It has to be on your end I bet
[02:54] <bdmp> Weird
[02:54] <bdmp> that was my question
[02:54] <Funraiser> bdmp, it's a stream, u can choose any song
[02:54] <naderman> do I need to use any args at booting to make hotplug work?
[02:54] <bdmp> You can set out going fonts or change the font in Gtk
[02:54] <bdmp> But that changes all the fonts
[02:55] <nubbe> ka24, okidoki
[02:55] <Seveas> bdmp, the plugin fails to compile
[02:55] <bdmp> I am trying to do it right now
[02:55] <bdmp> thats ok
[02:55] <Seveas> i'm still investigating why
[02:55] <omV0> is there any way to make Evolution not play a sound when detecting junk mail? it auto-deletes the message but still plays a "new message" sound..
[02:55] <bob2> naderman: no
[02:55] <bob2> naderman: why do you ask?
[02:56] <naderman> cause it doens't work for me
[02:56] <bdmp> I think just changing the font in gtk might be better and theD3vil just asked about it
[02:56] <naderman> my usb stick is not detected
[02:56] <naderman> (not detected, it's not only not mounted)
[02:56] <bob2> naderman: the kernel doesn't even notice?
[02:56] <naderman> yep
[02:56] <nubbe> is there any defragger in hoary or do I need for example "defrag"?
[02:56] <nikolaus> is it better to install glade-gnome than just glade packagae?
[02:57] <bob2> nubbe: you don't need one, and there isn't one
[02:57] <bob2> nikolaus: do you want to make gnome applications?
[02:57] <van_> hi, now i got X running, but can't get my mouse working. I tried /dev/mouse and /dev/tty00 .. none of them works
[02:57] <bob2> (I don't think there's any reason to prefer glade over glade-gnome)
[02:57] <liable> cusco: lspci |grep audio
[02:57] <nubbe> bob2, really???? how is that possible?
[02:57] <r0d> whats the command to see all your deamons running?
[02:57] <bigfoot> hi all: I need to make a small change in the Menu. How do I edit the "command line" of one of the launchers? One person in the past helped me thru it, but I forgot what the instructions were. We didn't need to download any additional software. (I just want to change the command for FX).
[02:58] <bdmp> theDevil: are you there?
[02:58] <bob2> r0d: there isn't one, really...'ps aux | grep -v ^yourusername' is sorta close
[02:58] <naderman> nubbe: you aren't using ntfs ;-)
[02:58] <bob2> nubbe: linux filesystems really don't get very fragmented
[02:58] <r0d> bummer
[02:58] <nubbe> naderman, hehe
[02:58] <nubbe> okay then
[02:58] <bob2> it's not really possible to "get a list of running daemons" on unix
[02:59] <r0d> is their a quick way to start a deamon?
[02:59] <bob2> which one?
[02:59] <DunkMaster> ok, im off
[02:59] <DunkMaster> ty for the help
[02:59] <ReAd> liable,
[02:59] <nikolaus> can i ubgrade gcc3.3 to gcc4, because when i select tu uninstall gcc3. half of ubuntu will be deinstalled
[02:59] <ReAd> 0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound Controller (rev a0)
[02:59] <ReAd> 0000:00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 06)
[02:59] <ReAd> liable,
[02:59] <r0d> any
[02:59] <Seveas> bigfoot, slocate firefox.desktop
[02:59] <Seveas> and edit that
[02:59] <bob2> nikolaus: what are you trying to do?
[02:59] <bob2> r0d: they all start on boot
[02:59] <cusco> liable: its ReAd whos having the problem.. I just converted him to ubuntu
[02:59] <liable> oh
[02:59] <r0d> well in gentoo theirs rc-update which starts spefic one. so say i compile something new
[02:59] <Seveas> bdmp, the plugin won't compilr
[03:00] <Seveas> compile*
[03:00] <bob2> ReAd: disable your on board one in the bios, if at all possible
[03:00] <r0d> it just starts?
[03:00] <bdmp> thats cool
[03:00] <naderman> bob2: got an idea, why the kernel doesn't notice the usb device?
[03:00] <bob2> r0d: you don't "compile something new" in ubuntu
[03:00] <bob2> r0d: when you install things, they start up, yes
[03:00] <bdmp> Seveas, thanks for all your help
[03:00] <r0d> thats sweet
[03:00] <Seveas> yw
[03:00] <bob2> r0d: you can just call the init script to stop them if you like, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop, for instance
[03:00] <bob2> r0d: or sudo invoke-rc.d ssh stop
[03:00] <liable> ReAd: whats lsmod say then, that should get loaded
[03:00] <bob2> naderman: do other usb devices work?
[03:00] <r0d> i c, thx bob2
[03:00] <bob2> r0d: np
[03:01] <bob2> nikolaus: ie, why do you want to remove gcc3?
[03:01] <bdmp> Seveas, I got a hell of a Kaffeine problem if you wanna help me with that.
[03:01] <liable> ReAd: dont post the whole lot here
[03:01] <Seveas> sorry, i don't use kde
[03:01] <naderman> bob2: no
[03:01] <bdmp> its ok. Thanks though
[03:01] <bob2> naderman: you've checked?
[03:02] <naderman> I checked a mouse and a usb stick
[03:02] <ReAd> bob2 the one I would like it to work is the onboard one
[03:02] <nitrox> I just loaded ubuntu on my Gateway 400SD4 laptop and browsing killing me
[03:02] <bob2> ReAd: run: echo emu10k1 | sudo tee -a /etc/hotplug/blacklist, and reboot
[03:02] <nitrox> I says resolving host and I know connection is good
[03:02] <naderman> bob2: just to make sure, tail -f /var/log/messages should show me a message if it detected anything, shouldn't it?
[03:03] <nitrox> I never added some more DNS to see if it would resolve better and still no luck
[03:03] <bob2> naderman: I'm not sure, but "dmesg" certainly would
[03:03] <nitrox> Anyone got any ideas
[03:03] <anir> hello
[03:03] <anir> how are you all
[03:03] <son_of_jd> How do i make a new User? My dad is trying to make one.
[03:03] <anir> can i play tv on ubuntu.. xawtv is not working
[03:04] <bob2> son_of_jd: sudo adduser username
[03:04] <son_of_jd> ok thankyou
[03:04] <Seveas> son_of_jd, system -> administration -> users and groups
[03:04] <bob2> son_of_jd: you can probably do it through something in the system -> adminustratoin -> menu
[03:04] <Seveas> son_of_jd, click "add user"
[03:04] <anir> son_of_jd, cumputer>user and group
[03:04] <naderman> bob2: hmm, there is a "USB HC takeOver failed!"
[03:04] <nitrox> Please is anyone knows a way to make ubuntu resolve host fast please help me
[03:04] <son_of_jd> ok
[03:05] <ReAd> bob2, tks brb
[03:05] <naderman> bob2: but it says that for all usb controllers
[03:05] <son_of_jd> wait, you misunderstood me LOL
[03:05] <bob2> naderman: that's bad
[03:05] <son_of_jd> a new user on gaim, not the system
[03:05] <Seveas> rofl :)
[03:05] <naderman> bob2: what does it mean?
[03:05] <son_of_jd> lol
[03:05] <Seveas> son_of_jd, a new account or an existing one?
[03:06] <son_of_jd> how do i do that?
[03:06] <nitrox> take like 45sec to resolve a host name on the net
[03:06] <Seveas> for the latter: tools-> accounts in the gaim buddy list
[03:06] <bigfoot> seveas, i did a search on "firefox.desktop" in "search for files." I got 2 results under "filesystem". 1. /usr/share/applications    2. /usr/share/gnome-app-install. The filenames were both mozilla-firefox.desktop.  I doubleclicked the files. I don't see the change in command that I did. You see, a few days ago, I got FX 1.04 from mozilla.org. Some kind person in this chatroom helped me changed the shortcuts on my panel and in Applications/Intern
[03:06] <bigfoot> et menu. But afterwards, I deleted FF1.04 from my system. But I forgot how to edit it.
[03:06] <son_of_jd> ok thankyou
[03:07] <bobby_pendragon> it worked!
[03:08] <bobby_pendragon> thankyou seveas
[03:08] <Seveas> what did i do? :)
[03:08] <knase> Need help with to close x server in ubuntu. please
[03:08] <bob2> knase: why?
[03:09] <Seveas> knase, do you want to shutdown, restart or remove the X server?
[03:09] <bob2> knase: if you're trying to install the nvidia binary only drivers, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:09] <nitrox> Ubuntu taking forever to resolve a host name on the net has anyone experience this before
[03:09] <bob2> nitrox: yes, lots of people have
[03:09] <knase> Im trying to install nvidia graphics drivers
[03:09] <bob2> nitrox: search the user list archives and the faq
[03:09] <van_> where could my mouse be? /dev/mouse and /dev/tty00 not working. please help
[03:09] <bob2> knase: then read that wiki page
[03:09] <knase> okej
[03:09] <bob2> van_: you're being too vague...do you mean "Where is the device for my serial mouse?"?
[03:10] <van_> yes
[03:10] <bob2> it's one of the /dev/ttySn devices
[03:10] <bob2> try ttyS1 if it's not S0
[03:10] <bigfoot> is there a way to keep Firefox to one window only, even if I accidentally click the launcher again?
[03:10] <van_> ok thanx bob2
[03:11] <toresbe> I've got a DeskJet printer, which most likely was powered off while CUPS was streaming data to it. When I power it on it prints junk, of course - but I've cancelled the job in CUPS. I presume the data still lies in a kernel-level parport buffer - is there any way to clear that buffer?
[03:12] <r0d> what does ubuntu for system updates?
[03:12] <r0d> use for system updates i mean
[03:12] <bob2> r0d: "use"? it uses the apt system.
[03:13] <naderman> meh looks, like I need to update my bios @_@
[03:13] <r0d> ok, so i have to manually do it myself? because i just recieved some type of update program that asked me to re compile some software
[03:13] <bob2> just received? what do you mean?
[03:14] <_simple> why when i try to remove alsa-base and the other alsa thing it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop
[03:14] <r0d> ok in my gnome enviroment their was a program in my taskbar that showed some out of day programs, and basicly gave me the option to update. didnt have a name of the program
[03:15] <bob2> right
[03:15] <_simple> if it wasn't authenticated or something , it wouldn't install
[03:15] <bob2> that's update-notifier
[03:15] <bob2> if you let it update, it uses some program that knows about apt to download and install packages for you
[03:15] <bob2> nothing gets recompiled, just downloaded and installed
[03:15] <_simple> so if you installed it, you're probably fine
[03:15] <_simple> if that's the worry
[03:15] <knase> What should I do about this message = Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". ? please help
[03:16] <_simple> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[03:16] <_simple>   alsa-base alsa-utils gdm ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[03:16] <bob2> knase: go read the page I told you about again and follow the instructions fro mthe start
[03:16] <_simple> uh no thanks?
[03:16] <r0d> i c
[03:16] <bob2> _simple: then don't remove alsa-base
[03:16] <knase> What should I do about this message = Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". ? please help
[03:16] <bob2> ubuntu-desktop Depends on it for a reason
[03:17] <bob2> knase: please just read the wiki page again
[03:17] <_simple> well i want to remove it for the newest version out
[03:17] <knase> I do not understand
[03:17] <_simple> 1.0.9rc3
[03:17] <_simple> it's 1.0.8
[03:17] <bob2> why?
[03:17] <_simple> since that's what my onboard audio drive needs
[03:17] <knase> I installed linux yesterday, Im really bad at this
[03:17] <_simple> the newest builds
[03:17] <bob2> I doubt it cares about alsa-base at all
[03:17] <_simple> and alsa-utils
[03:17] <bob2> it may need a newer kernel driver, but that's a different issue
[03:17] <_simple> theres alsa-utils 1.0.9rc3
[03:18] <bob2> in breezy perhaps
[03:18] <_simple> and this one is 1.0.8, will it overwrite the old one?
[03:19] <Geoffrian> Why are there so many people in this room and so few talking?
[03:19] <HappyFool> we're all too shy and retiring
[03:20] <topaspv> hi all! i've got a problem, probably someone can help me.. i have two pcs. the first is connected to the internet and should share it with the second pc. now, both pcs are able to ping each bother but the second just won't ping internetsources. i tried to install firestarter but it doesn't realy help. so, has anyone any advice?
[03:20] <bob2> topaspv: remove firestarter. reboot. install ipmasq.
[03:20] <topaspv> ok, i'll try
[03:20] <topaspv> thanks
[03:21] <Anubis> is the ubuntu backport repo back up?
[03:21] <van_> hi, i'm back... /dev/ttyS1, /dev/ttyS0 doesn't work either :/
[03:21] <bob2> van_: you're sure it's a serial mouse?
[03:22] <Seveaz> van_, /dev/input/mice | /dev/input/mouse0 | /dev/input/mouse1
[03:22] <bob2> Seveaz: the kernel magically redirects serial ports to those files?
[03:23] <Seveaz> bob2, no idea, he said he didn't know where his mouse was (without specs for the mouse) so i give him some locations where mice can be...
[03:25] <van_> hi, i'm back...so nothing works :/ /dev/ttyS1 and /dev/ttyS0 too
[03:25] <bob2> 23:21:47 @         bob2 | van_: you're sure it's a serial mouse?
[03:26] <van_> ps/2
[03:26] <Seveas> van_, no wonder that it doesn't work
[03:26] <bob2> dude
[03:26] <van_> ups
[03:26] <van_> oops
[03:26] <Seveas> ttys* is for serial mice
[03:26] <bob2> /dev/psaux then
[03:26] <van_> stupid, stupid me :(
[03:28] <Lenny1729> During ubuntu installation I was asked if I want to install some extra localization packages, but I had no internet connection and so I refused. What packages would have been installed?
[03:29] <Seveas> Lenny1729, language-support-$LANG
[03:29] <Seveas> where $LANG = the 2-letter code for your language
[03:29] <Lenny1729> Seveas, thankyou! Is it possible to get even a german Openoffice if I install language-support-DE?
[03:30] <Seveas> Lenny1729, yes, langiage-support-de will also install the german OOo localization files
[03:30] <r0d> whats a good IDE on gnome?
[03:30] <Seveas> vim :)
[03:30] <HappyFool> emacs
[03:30] <Seveas> eclipse
[03:30] <Lenny1729> Seveas, ok that's good, so there is no need to download the whole openoffice, that's fine
[03:31] <Lenny1729> rod, anjuta for c++
[03:31] <Lenny1729> rod, spe for python, eclipse for java/c++
[03:31] <Seveas> eclipse + pyclipse rocks too for python
[03:31] <r0d> yea thats what im using is anjuta. just seeing if their was something else
[03:32] <r0d> im coming from kde...
[03:32] <Lenny1729> Seveas, ah ok.. didnt know that
[03:32] <cassiano> i'm new using linux and ubuntu... i can't install a prgram
[03:32] <Seveas> eclips + svn plugin is also the rock
[03:32] <cassiano> can someone help me
[03:32] <chrisss> cassiano: use synaptic
[03:32] <Seveas> cassiano, what are you trying to install
[03:32] <cassiano> i'v already use
[03:32] <Seveas> chrisss, not everything is available in there :)
[03:32] <r0d> i just use c++, and c#
[03:33] <cassiano> that's it
[03:33] <Seveas> cassiano, what are you trying to install <==
[03:33] <r0d> kool thx
[03:33] <cassiano> amsn
[03:33] <cassiano> and some dvd player
[03:33] <Seveas> cassiano, have you enabled universe in synaptic?
[03:33] <Lenny1729> I am new to ubuntu but a linux user for years, can anybody explain to me how I can configure sudo that a wheel user must enter the root password and not his own?
[03:33] <scapor> Yesterday I installed the "686-smp" kernel (as I'm now using the default 386 and I want to use the HT on my P4)  but it  doesn't boot .. when I start it as the first menu optiojn in Grub I get some error with "xxxx.c" where xxxx is a number with some 1, 2? 0 en 4 OI think .. like "4012.c or maybe theere was an 8 .. don't remeber .. if I start the "failsafe" option it says it can't mount my / partitiojn (hda6 -> reiserfs)  Is this a known probl
[03:33] <Seveas> Lenny1729, afaik that's impossible
[03:34] <cassiano> how should i do it?
[03:34] <chrisss> cassiano: do u use KDE or Gnome
[03:34] <chrisss> ok... then i assume u use GNOME
[03:34] <Seveas> scapor, file a bug with as much information as possible on bugzilla.ubuntu.com (at least include thr ubuntu version, kernel version and complete error)
[03:34] <cassiano> i don't now what is it, but i think is gnome,
[03:35] <scapor> Seveas: :|
[03:35] <scapor> Seveas: I'm ytoo lazy right now .. maybe later today :p
[03:35] <Seveas> cassiano, see the wiki, search for AddingRepositories
[03:35] <Seveas> cassiano, and add universe
[03:35] <van_> thanx guys, now my mouse works :)
[03:35] <cassiano> i'm already there
[03:35] <Lenny1729> Seveas, so the root password is completely useless? I changed it with sudo su; passwd and never needed it again
[03:35] <Seveas> cassiano, you can then use synaptic to install amsn
[03:35] <othernoob> scapor: i have problems with the 686 kernel as well. not quite like yours, but mine freezes after a few minutes
[03:35] <Seveas> Lenny1729, well, you *now* need it to login in single-user mode
[03:35] <scapor> cassiano: open Synaptic (klik the system menu, then the second menu and then "synaptci")
[03:36] <Seveas> if you remove it again, you won't need it anymore
[03:36] <scapor> othernoob: ok .. it just sucks as I can't use hyperthreading and using even 386 .. my box could be much quicker thus :(
[03:36] <chrisss> cassiano: did u get it openyet?
[03:36] <zxc> can anyone tell me how to search my printers driver cd for a .ppd?
[03:36] <othernoob> scapor: ive been told that there are no problems with 686 if you compile your own kernel
[03:36] <cassiano> yes
[03:37] <othernoob> scapor: havent had time to try it out yet though
[03:37] <cassiano> i'm in synaptic
[03:37] <chrisss> ok klik search on top
[03:37] <cassiano> but
[03:37] <scapor> othernoob: I use stock ubuntu kernel now
[03:37] <chrisss> but wut? (hey tht rhymes)
[03:37] <scapor> othernoob: I made my other system a mess (though a fast mess) when tweaking everthing with own kernels etc
[03:37] <scapor> cassiano: press 'search'
[03:37] <cassiano> yes
[03:37] <scapor> cassiano: then enter the name ofthe prog you want to install
[03:38] <Lenny1729> Thanks for your help Seveas, I'm off now...
[03:38] <cassiano> yes, i've done
[03:38] <cassiano> it
[03:38] <scapor> cassiano: then you get a list
[03:38] <cassiano> but theres no amsn
[03:38] <chrisss> what is amsn?
[03:38] <cassiano> there's a blank list
[03:38] <cassiano> :)
[03:38] <Putu_Pluto> wat is the best? the windows, the debian or the ubuntu linux?
[03:38] <resiak> chrisss: Inferior to Gaim.
[03:38] <scapor> chrisss: a MSN Messenger program
[03:38] <petroleum> an MSN client for linux chrisss
[03:38] <othernoob> scapor: well, you could give compiling the kernel a try then, sounds like you'd know what to do ;)
[03:38] <Seveas> Putu_Pluto, ubuntu of course :)
[03:38] <chrisss> got it
[03:38] <petroleum> also for windows i believe
[03:38] <petroleum> :D
[03:38] <scapor> resiak: But with more MSN features :p
[03:38] <Putu_Pluto> ok tank! ;)
[03:38] <scapor> petroleum: for mac too
[03:38] <Putu_Pluto> i have the ubuntu
[03:39] <chrisss> cassiano: just use GAIM
[03:39] <scapor> petroleum: platform independent :p
[03:39] <bob2> Putu_Pluto: Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:39] <petroleum> ahh kewl scapor  :D
[03:39] <petroleum> is it coded in Java?
[03:39] <scapor> othernoob: I know but I don't want too
[03:39] <scapor> petroleum: tcl/tk
[03:39] <petroleum> ah
[03:39] <chrisss> it does MSN, AIM, yahoo, and Jabor, IRC, ICQ, etc
[03:39] <petroleum> oh ye
[03:39] <scapor> petroleum: I'm a aMSN dev :p
[03:39] <petroleum> awesome :D
[03:39] <chocoIate> back
[03:39] <scapor> chrisss: but it's all cool and well intergrated but mises a lot features for MSN and is unstable :p
[03:39] <petroleum> well i'll definatly have to pick at your brain sometimes if of course you dont mind :)
[03:40] <chocoIate> liable : you find anything useful :o
[03:40] <chrisss> scapor: hes a n00b
[03:40] <scapor> chrisss: :D
[03:40] <petroleum> lol.. chrisss that's in reference to me?
[03:40] <scapor> chrisss: noobs use aMSN as it's just the same interface as MSN Mess has :p
[03:40] <resiak> scapor: Unstable? Really?
[03:40] <cassiano> problem resolved
[03:40] <scapor> cassiano: great
[03:40] <Putu_Pluto> wat is the best: the hotmail. or yahoo?
[03:40] <cassiano> thanks,
[03:40] <chocoIate> i'm just about to purchase a serial modem right now ; so any brand is ok ;-?
[03:40] <cassiano> any way
[03:41] <Seveas> Putu_Pluto, gmail :)
[03:41] <chrisss> yahoo!
[03:41] <petroleum> scapor, :D noob huh? :D
[03:41] <petroleum> lol
[03:41] <Putu_Pluto> wat is gmail?
[03:41] <chrisss> ok...
[03:41] <scapor> cassiano: righclick a program in the list, do 'install' and then the big button on top
[03:41] <chocoIate> by the way from the producer it says "supports only windows" not mention of linux :P
[03:41] <cassiano> just another question
[03:41] <scapor> petroleum: think he meant cassiano :)
[03:41] <Seveas> Putu_Pluto, web-based e-mail from google
[03:41] <Seveas> with als pop3 access :)
[03:41] <petroleum> scapor,  ahh :).. im so not with it today :P
[03:41] <chrisss> with all due respect scapor: weve established tht already
[03:42] <Putu_Pluto> I've the hotmail because I don't 'conocer' ninguno mas
[03:42] <cassiano> do you now the name of program compared to premier
[03:42] <cassiano> for video
[03:42] <cassiano> ?
[03:42] <scapor> resiak: yeah 'unstable' as in .. it just can crash while you're busy without saying anything :(
[03:43] <resiak> scapor: Well, HEAD does, but I don't remember 1.x doing that lately.
[03:44] <scapor> resiak: I've been trying out HEAD ..which is cool and crashed for me on rightclicks ;) ... but the releases also crash ... be sure ;)
[03:44] <zxc> I need to find out which usb plug my printer is using
[03:44] <scapor> resiak: I'm not "dissing" gaim here .. gaim's cool ;)
[03:44] <zxc> anyway how?
[03:44] <scapor> zxc: try "lsusb" on the commandline
[03:44] <resiak> scapor: Meh, nor am I insulting aMSN. Keep up the good work, and I'll keep trying to get to grips with hacking on Gaim :-)
[03:45] <zxc> scapor, it comes up with a list but I can't tell which is my printer :/
[03:45] <chrisss> problem: im trying to setup a loopback device... ive already created 'myloop' by filling it with /dev/zero... when i try to run losetup /dev/loop0 myloop i get this error: ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[03:45] <scapor> resiak: we're "prettifying" aMSN .. so look out ;) ... and I started ti write a GTK GUI for aMSN too .. as a plugin ;)
[03:45] <scapor> zxc: do you need to know it for the "add printer" thing ?
[03:46] <resiak> scapor: But do you do Jabber? Or AIM? I think not!
[03:46] <scapor> zxc: I think that's just allways #1 if you have 1
[03:46] <petroleum> oh scapor .. i assume you're farmiliar with the protocol used for msn chatting... I remember MSN had a feature a while back about.. telling whether you were blocked or not.. was that taken out by MS?
[03:46] <topaspv> hey! it's me again. i now installed ipmasq but i somehow can't run it
[03:46] <petroleum> familiar*
[03:46] <zxc> scapor, yes
[03:46] <scapor> resiak: I do it with gaim :p  ... and aMSN's protocol code is allmost 'pluggable' .. though I don't want it to become multiprotocol as it's "an MSN Messenger clone" as it's on SF
[03:47] <zxc> scapor, ok I'll try :)
[03:47] <scapor> petroleum: not possible anymore juist
[03:47] <petroleum> kk
[03:47] <scapor> petroleum: s/juist/indeed
[03:47] <resiak> scapor: Sure, you're working at a different goal.
[03:47] <othernoob> is there a wallpaper that features all the logos of the diff. distributions ?
[03:47] <scapor> resiak: yup :)
[03:47] <Putu_Pluto> I Have the gaim internet msn and the kopete in other computer, wat msn have you?????
[03:47] <scapor> othernoob: create it ! :D
[03:47] <resiak> Putu_Pluto: Please stop polling the channel.
[03:47] <Putu_Pluto> wat is polling?
[03:48] <scapor> Putu_Pluto: asking everyone
[03:48] <resiak> Putu_Pluto: Asking general questions of the channel, like you just did.
[03:48] <Seveas> Putu_Pluto, please stop creating noise, this is a help channel
[03:48] <othernoob> scapor: i lack talent for something like that :/
[03:48] <Putu_Pluto> oh, okay, sorry
[03:48] <scapor> othernoob: then apt-get gimp, open epiphany with the right tutorials and try to learn it :d
[03:49] <Seveas> lol scapor ;)
[03:49] <Putu_Pluto> sorry resak, sorry scapor
[03:49] <Putu_Pluto> sorry chanel
[03:49] <Putu_Pluto> xD
[03:49] <topaspv> can anyone tell me how to share my internet-connection? i tried ipmasq but i somehow can't run it
[03:49] <chrisss> problem: im trying to setup a loopback device... ive already created 'myloop' by filling it with /dev/zero... when i try to run losetup /dev/loop0 myloop i get this error: ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[03:49] <othernoob> scapor: lol, talent can't be learnt i believe ;)
[03:50] <chrisss> sry 4 teh huge question...
[03:50] <van_> hi again, one more question, How to let non root users run X?
[03:50] <scapor> othernoob: but I don't think you tried it yet .. so give it a go :p
[03:50] <chrisss> add the users to teh "video" group...
[03:50] <chrisss> ^^ van_
[03:50] <van_> em...how? (me -> teh n00b)
[03:50] <othernoob> scapor: my art teacher in school once said id be better of drawing the house of santa clause for the rest of me life :/
[03:51] <Seveas> addgroup USERNAME video
[03:51] <van_> thank you
[03:51] <topaspv> can anyone tell me how to share my internet-connection to a second pc? i tried ipmasq but i somehow can't run it
[03:51] <scapor> van_: or start the "users and groups" thing and click your way through ;)
[03:52] <van_> hm..it sais i am already in that group, but when i wanna run gnome, it sais that it can't read some /home/traxas/ICE...
[03:52] <scapor> Seveas: users think linux is difficult as they always get answers with command :|
[03:52] <bigfoot> Hi all, I have mplayer (plugin) for Firefox. It works well, but there are no controls. So how do we pause, or fastforward, or rewind, etc? Am I missing a file?
[03:53] <Seveas> scapor, i could have told him to go read man addgroup too ;)
[03:53] <chrisss> its prob the site's fault... when u make a site u can specify the type of controls
[03:53] <chrisss> ^^ bigfoot
[03:53] <resiak> bigfoot: You've just discovered that the mplayer plugin is _useless_.
[03:53] <resiak> chrisss: What's wrong with prefixing what you say?
[03:53] <scapor> Seveas: you could even just have told "rtfm n00b" :D
[03:53] <Seveas> ;)
[03:53] <bigfoot> resiak, ha! what do you guys recommend..... If mplayer can only play stuff but is practically useless?
[03:54] <bigfoot> hi chrisss !
[03:54] <Seveas> resiak, so what are you using for embedded media?
[03:54] <chrisss> resiak: type faster than i can think.... there i did it
[03:54] <resiak> bigfoot: I use(d) GreaseMonkey and a plugin to put a link to the embedded content beside it, and then just load them in totem.
[03:54] <scapor> hmm .. does someone know how to set the time after a laptop should go to sleep ?
[03:54] <resiak> chrisss: Ace.
[03:54] <chrisss> ace?
[03:54] <resiak> Seveas: I don't. I can't _stand_ embedded media.
[03:54] <resiak> chrisss: Ace == cool.
[03:55] <bigfoot> resiak, so greasemonkey can play stuff like Windowsmedia, realplayer, etc?
[03:55] <chrisss> my bad..
[03:55] <bigfoot> why do you say "use(d)" <past tense> rather than "use", resiak ?
[03:55] <petroleum> its a british thing i believe chrisss
[03:56] <resiak> bigfoot: No, GreaseMonkey is a scripting plugin for Firefox. You install it, then you get a script for it (I'm digging out the link) which modifies the pages to include links as well as embeds. I say used because I now use Galeon.
[03:56] <topaspv> seems like noone can help me :/
[03:56] <bigfoot> resiak, why can't you stand embedded media? Is this the opposite of media that is not played in a web browser?
[03:56] <chrisss> topaspv: same here
[03:57] <resiak> bigfoot: I would rather have a link to the stream so I can watch it in a media program.
[03:57] <bigfoot> resiak, why do you use galeon? is it much better than firefox?
[03:57] <resiak> bigfoot: http://greasemonkey.mozdev.org/ to install GreaseMonkey, restart the fox, http://dunck.us/collab/GreaseMonkeyUserScripts and get the unembed script. I prefer its interface.
[03:58] <javi> how can I remove kde from my ubuntu box ?
[03:58] <stb> whhaaa fuck my linux broke down...
[04:00] <scapor> greasemonkey is in epiphany-extensions HEAD \o/ hooray
[04:00] <chrisss> wut error:stb
[04:00] <Seveas> javi, removing one of the core libs like qt will remove a lot of it already
[04:00] <scapor> chrisss: too late :D
[04:00] <chrisss> problem: im trying to setup a loopback device... ive already created 'myloop' by filling it with /dev/zero... when i try to run losetup /dev/loop0 myloop i get this error: ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[04:01] <scapor> bigfoot: epiphany is even a cooler browser :p
[04:02] <HappyFool> chrisss: sorry, not sure what you're trying to do, but how about just 'mount -o loop myloop /mnt/loopmnt' ?
[04:03] <chrisss> ok......
[04:03] <chrisss> losetup doesnt work
[04:03] <Seveas> chrisss, did you try to use encryption?
[04:04] <chocoIate> am i supposed to download mono as a seperate package and install it ; i do not see it in the list of available packages :o
[04:04] <chrisss> ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy
[04:04] <chrisss> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:04] <chrisss> seveas: no
[04:04] <Seveas> chocoIate, mono is only available in breezy
[04:05] <topaspv> can anyone give me some advise how to share my internet-connection? i'm using two pcs: one of them is connected to the internet and has a network card installed which includes three other network cards (it's something like a hub). but somehow i cannot share the internet-connection to my second pc
[04:05] <Seveas> wait
[04:05] <Seveas> it's also on hoary :)
[04:05] <Seveas> in universe
[04:05] <Seveas> chrisss, does /dev/loop0 exist?
[04:06] <chocoIate> what is breezy :o
[04:06] <chrisss> yes
[04:06] <Seveas> chrisss, you created it yourself?
[04:06] <Seveas> chocoIate, next ubuntu version (VERY unstable atm)
[04:06] <chocoIate> should i download and install it instead :o
[04:06] <chrisss> yes... after f****** it up by filling it (accedientaily) with /dev/zero
[04:06] <chocoIate> maybe it will fix my modem too :P
[04:06] <Seveas> chocoIate, mono is available in hoary
[04:06] <Seveas> in universe
[04:06] <chocoIate> where
[04:07] <chocoIate> i got hoary
[04:07] <chocoIate> but its not in my list of packages :S
[04:07] <HappyFool> you'll need to use mknod or something to create /dev/loop0
[04:07] <Seveas> chrisss, you cannot fill /dev/loop0 with zeroes :)
[04:07] <chrisss> i did
[04:07] <chrisss> !
[04:07] <Seveas> chrisss, can you paste the output of /dev/loop0 in here
[04:07] <Seveas> i think you made a mistake :)
[04:07] <chrisss> a ls -l?
[04:07] <Seveas> chrisss, can you paste the output of ls -al /dev/loop0 in here
[04:08] <chrisss> ok
[04:08] <chrisss> crw-rw----  1 root disk 7, 0 2005-05-21 09:28 /dev/loop0
[04:08] <chrisss> does it have to be executable?
[04:09] <HappyFool> you should be able to create /dev/loop0 with 'sudo mknod /dev/loop0 b 7 0'
[04:09] <javi> Seveas, thank you, i removed libqt102-mc
[04:09] <chrisss> o i did c not b
[04:09] <HappyFool> huh. my /dev/loop0 is a block device (b, not c)
[04:09] <chocoIate> by the way, nobody seems to want to take any responsibility. I'm about to purchase a new ISDN modem on serial port ; would i have any driver issues :o
[04:09] <alfatau> hi, i've to send mails to other local users, but always delivered mails arrive to me. What can i do?? I'm running exim4
[04:09] <HappyFool> i think that's it
[04:09] <Seveas> loop0 should be a block device
[04:09] <chrisss> thts my problem.. prob
[04:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> just wondering, are other ppl having problems with OO.o and OO.oB under breezy?
[04:10] <chrisss> chris@ubuntu:~$ sudo losetup /dev/loop0 myloop
[04:10] <chrisss> ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Device or resource busy
[04:10] <chrisss> chris@ubuntu:~$
[04:11] <Jurku> Kamping_Kaiser, what kind of problems?
[04:11] <Quest-Master> What is the command to restart cups?
[04:11] <HappyFool> chrisss: try 'sudo losetup /dev/loop0'
[04:11] <HappyFool> should tell you if a file's already associated with it
[04:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> jurku. in OO.o 1.1.3 (?) right click or clicking a menu crashes the program, and in OO.o 2B clicking a menu crashes the program
[04:12] <Jurku> Kamping_Kaiser, yes, I had same problem..
[04:12] <Jurku> problems*
[04:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok
[04:12] <chocoIate> somebody say i wont have an issues that way if the modem is not working after purchase i'd like to blame you for it ; and maybe get you all to refund lol
[04:12] <chrisss>   /dev/loop0: [0303] :46531182 (myloop)
[04:12] <chrisss> is tht a good thing?
[04:12] <Seveas> yes
[04:12] <Jurku> Kamping_Kaiser, I went back to hoary
[04:12] <Seveas> chrisss, now mount it :)
[04:13] <bigfoot> resiak, i think i'm going to give galeon a try. Scapor recommended epiphany, but i think that it's geared towards the non-technical Aunt Tillie.
[04:13] <HappyFool> i'd just go with 'mount -o loop' instead of mucking about with losetup, but ok
[04:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> it wouldent worry me, but i dont have any HTML editors, and i want a wyswig to do a large past of text (250 -> 300 lines)
[04:13] <chrisss> question: where do u specify the loop device?
[04:14] <bigfoot> resiak, so with galeon, it can play stuff like windows media (audio and video) and realplayer stuff?
[04:14] <Seveas> mount /dev/loop0 /path/to/mount/point -o loop
[04:14] <Seveas> (iirc)
[04:14] <resiak> bigfoot: No, the situation is worse than in Firefox, because it doesn't have a GreaseMonkey equivalent.
[04:14] <HappyFool> i don't think you need -o loop in that case (?)
[04:14] <chrisss> ok.....
[04:14] <candyban> Hi guys
[04:14] <topaspv> can anyone give me some advise how to share my internet-connection? i'm using two pcs: one of them is connected to the internet and has a network card installed which includes three other network cards (it's something like a hub). but somehow i cannot share the internet-connection to my second pc
[04:14] <Seveas> no idea HappyFool, it's been a while since i used it
[04:15] <bigfoot> oh, so how do you play WindowsMedia and Realplayer, etc in Galeon?
[04:15] <resiak> bigfoot: I dig the url out of the source :)
[04:15] <chrisss> sudo mount -o loop /mnt/knoppixcd/boot.img /dev/loop0
[04:15] <chrisss> mount: mount point /dev/loop0 is not a directory
[04:15] <Seveas> topaspv, try the mailing list/forum
[04:15] <topaspv> ok
[04:15] <bigfoot> resiak, then what software do you use to play the stuff?
[04:15] <HappyFool> other way around
[04:15] <Seveas> chrisss, device first, mount point later
[04:15] <chrisss> ok...
[04:15] <HappyFool> Seveas: the whole point of -o loop is to let mount do losetup etc. for you
[04:15] <resiak> bigfoot: I'm looking for a way to do it sanely. Truth is, I don't look at many pages that have embedded stuffs. I either use mplayer or totem, depending on what mood I'm in.
[04:16] <Seveas> HappyFool, ah!
[04:16] <Seveas> by the way chrisss if you want to mount an .img, you don't need to have that loop file or device
[04:16] <candyban> Is libapache-mod-php4 broken? ... I just installed apache + libapache-mod-php4 ... but php is not enabled ... I tried with apache-modconf enable php(4) ... didn't work ... checked the config files and noticed the module is not loaded anywhere ...
[04:16] <Seveas> chrisss, mount -o loop /path/to/.img is enough
[04:16] <chrisss> sudo mount /dev/loop0 /mnt/knoppixcd/boot.img -o loop
[04:16] <chrisss> ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy
[04:17] <chrisss> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:17] <Seveas> chrisss, read my last 2 lines :)
[04:17] <Seveas> and also: you cannot mount a boot.img iirc
[04:17] <Seveas> it's not a filesystem
[04:17] <chrisss> sheite
[04:18] <Seveas> why would you want it??
[04:18] <chrisss> customizing knoppix.... without doing knoppix-remaster
[04:18] <Seveas> lol
[04:18] <Seveas> not gonna happen :)
[04:18] <Seveas> chrisss, the ubuntu live cd is easier to customize
[04:19] <chrisss> dont have it neware i can download it (stupid question)
[04:19] <Seveas> cdimage.ubuntu.com
[04:19] <Seveas> and the wiki contains a LiveCDCustomizationHowto
[04:19] <bigfoot> resiak, i think I've got the URL of the audiofile I was listening to. It's a Windows Media Streaming File (extension is .wax). But when I input this into Totem Movie Player, it doesn't work.
[04:20] <chrisss> thx
[04:20] <candyban> 1)Does anyone know when FF 1.0.4 will be out?
[04:20] <candyban> 2) Does anyone know about problems with libapache-mod-php4 in debian/ubuntu?
[04:20] <kaouete> woaw, last breezy is quite broke, i get a lot of cannot execute /sbin/getty and things like that :>
[04:20] <Seveas> candyban, FF in ubuntu is 1.0.4 in disguise
[04:20] <Seveas> 2) no
[04:20] <Seveas> kaouete, indeed it's broken
[04:20] <kaouete> huhu
[04:20] <kaouete> i'm wondering how i will fix that ^^
[04:21] <Seveas> kaouete, by waiting for it to become stable
[04:21] <resiak> bigfoot: This is when I break out mplayer. Do you have w32codecs installed?
[04:21] <kaouete> ho, i should have read the topic before doing this upgrade :>
[04:21] <Ali_Baba> maybe i wont upgrade a while now :)
[04:21] <bigfoot> resiak, by the way, i don't have "Mplayer" in my Applications list, even though I have the mplayer plugin.
[04:21] <Seveas> there are dozens of people working on ubuntu, do you seriously think you can fix it on your own?
[04:21] <candyban> Seveas: How can you remove the disguise? (Can't get to the FF plugin page)
[04:21] <resiak> bigfoot: apt-get install gmplayer ?
[04:21] <bigfoot> resiak, yes, i believe I got w32codecs.
[04:21] <Seveas> candyban, let FF lie about its User-Agent string
[04:21] <chrisss> is brezzy broken?
[04:21] <kaouete> Seveas: there is not point on waithing it to be stable if i want to test last features, it's not like if i was using it to just use it :)
[04:21] <resiak> bigfoot: Then run mplayer URL
[04:22] <eyequeue> chrisss:  yes
[04:22] <Seveas> chrisss, of course, it's the development version
[04:22] <chrisss> f***
[04:22] <Seveas> with two major transitions going on
[04:22] <chrisss> whops
[04:22] <chrisss> which are?
[04:22] <HappyFool> candyban: in about.config, set general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4
[04:22] <HappyFool> ag, about:config
[04:22] <Seveas> kaouete, then just wait a few days and test things again :)
[04:22] <eyequeue> chrisss:  c++ transition
[04:22] <Ali_Baba> to gcc 3.4 > gcc 4.0 transition
[04:22] <kaouete> Seveas: hehe, i wonder how if i can login on this box :>
[04:22] <Pengui1> Does anybody know how to install bluetooth?
[04:22] <kaouete> cant
[04:22] <chrisss> ok
[04:23] <chrisss> Pengui1: u have 2have bluetooth in ur kernel... correct me if im wrong
[04:23] <Seveas> kaouete, ssh logins should work
[04:23] <kaouete> ho, you are a great guys
[04:23] <Pengui1> Kernel?
[04:23] <Seveas> Pengui1, apg-get install gnome-bluetoth
[04:23] <bigfoot> What is "gmplayer", resiak ? is that the same as mplayer?
[04:23] <Seveas> Pengui1, apg-get install gnome-bluetooth
[04:23] <Pengui1> Oh no... :-(
[04:23] <kaouete> thanks a lot, i will just wait and hope i will not need this box for now
[04:23] <Seveas> gmplayer is gnome version
[04:23] <Ali_Baba> its the gui mplayer
[04:23] <resiak> bigfoot: It's mplayer with a GTK frontend.
[04:23] <Seveas> (immsmr)
[04:23] <resiak> !explain immsmr
[04:23] <thr1ce> no, it's gui mplayer
[04:24] <Seveas> if my memory serves me right :
[04:25] <chrisss> where is the wiki for customizinglivecd
[04:25] <Seveas> chrisss, search on wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:25] <HappyFool> Pengui1: don't worry, many bluetooth modules are present in the standard hoary kernel
[04:25] <bigfoot> resiak, strange thing: though I can play the URL in firefox (via Mplayerplugin), when i run it in terminal, it gets this repeating (over and over and over) result: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/287453
[04:25] <chrisss> Seveas: mmm...kay
[04:26] <resiak> bigfoot: *shrug*
[04:26] <bigfoot> resiak, so let me see if i understand you. Mplayer is a program that runs from Terminal, while Mplayer is a program that runs in graphical mode, correct?
[04:26] <thr1ce> no, gmplayer is gui
[04:26] <resiak> bigfoot: If you mean gmplayer the second time, yse.
[04:26] <thr1ce> mplayer is terminal
[04:26] <chrisss> got it
[04:26] <chrisss> thr1ce: yes ur right
[04:27] <thr1ce> it'll have capability be run with a nice skin, and looks pretty good
[04:27] <bigfoot> resiak, yes, meant gmplayer the second time.
[04:27] <chocoIate> Seveas -->> <Seveas> chocoIate, mono is available in hoary ; i have hoary, but i do not see mono amoung the list of pacakges, where do you see this package :o
[04:27] <thr1ce> the only difference, is when you compile it, you use ./configure --enable-gui
[04:28] <thr1ce> then again, this is ubuntu, no need to compile :)
[04:28] <Seveas> chocoIate, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/45
[04:28] <jinxi> hi
[04:28] <Seveas> output of apt-cache show monpo
[04:28] <Seveas> mono
[04:28] <cassiano> hi again
[04:28] <jinxi> what tool can I use to encrypt a file?
[04:28] <bigfoot> thr1ce, the last three messages you wrote are about Mplayer, right?
[04:28] <HappyFool> jinxi: you can try gpg
[04:28] <jaco_> which is the url to submit a breezy bug?
[04:28] <thr1ce> yes
[04:29] <dcraven> chocoIate: It's in universe I think.
[04:29] <cassiano> how can i use full screen with ogle?
[04:29] <jinxi> HappyFool, I need a simple tool which I can encrypt with a password
[04:29] <Seveas> gpg is very good in encrypting :)
[04:29] <jinxi> that's it
[04:29] <cassiano> can someone help me
[04:29] <HappyFool> jinxi: gpg will let you do that. can't remember what the command will be offhand
[04:29] <resiak> cassiano: Don't ask for help before you've asked your question :-)
[04:29] <Seveas> i use a minimalistic password-file editor which acyaully is a script calling gpg and zenity :))
[04:29] <toresbe> bob2: May I /msg you?
[04:29] <Pengui1> Oh my god
[04:29] <Seveas> resiak, read a few lines back :p
[04:29] <Pengui1> IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!
[04:29] <thr1ce> good :)
[04:29] <toresbe> Pengui1: YAY!!!!!!
[04:30] <Pengui1> Thank you, it works!!!!
[04:30] <resiak> Seveas: Right.
[04:30] <resiak> cassiano: Sorry, I can't read.
[04:30] <jinxi> HappyFool, can u look it up for me in a hurry?
[04:30] <HappyFool> jinxi: just 'gpg -c filetoencrypt'
[04:30] <chocoIate> Seveas : how did you get this info : http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/45
[04:30] <cassiano> can somenone help me
[04:30] <Seveas> apt-cache show mono
[04:30] <cassiano> ?
[04:30] <resiak> cassiano: Doesn't its manual say?
[04:30] <HappyFool> jinxi: that will output a file 'filetoencrypt.gpg'
[04:30] <chocoIate> did it search online Seveas :o
[04:31] <Seveas> no, apt-cache only uses the local cache
[04:31] <krystoff> Hi there, i'm in trouble with my tohiba laptop which won't shut down itself i have to hard shutdown, no restart for the sme reasons ? anyone here with the same problems ?
[04:31] <jinxi> HappyFool, how do I decrypt it back on another system?
[04:31] <HappyFool> jinxi: and then to decrypt just run 'gpg filetoencrypt.gpg'
[04:31] <cassiano> no, the movie trembles
[04:31] <HappyFool> jinxi: gpg is available for many platforms, including windows
[04:31] <jinxi> HappyFool, shouldn't I give a key to encrypt it?
[04:31] <resiak> cassiano: I've heard of problems with stuff like that. You might want to try making its buffer bigger?
[04:31] <HappyFool> jinxi: you'll need gpg on whatever system you need to decrypt on
[04:31] <HappyFool> jinxi: it'll ask for a passphrase
[04:32] <jinxi> ok
[04:32] <HappyFool> jinxi: just try it on a simple little file first, to see how it works
[04:32] <cassiano> i dont understand
[04:32] <dcraven> cassiano: I've never used ogle, but some players go fullscreen when you press 'F'.
[04:32] <HappyFool> it's very straightforward
[04:32] <chocoIate> Seveas : Filename: pool/universe/m/mono/mono_1.0.5-1_i386.deb
[04:32] <cassiano> what do you use
[04:32] <chocoIate> is that a local path or the path online :o
[04:32] <othernoob> how do i set the jre so that opera8 recognizes it?
[04:32] <dcraven> cassiano: I use totem, but I'm not sure why.
[04:32] <Seveas> chocoIate, that info is in the local cache and it is the online path :)
[04:33] <dockane> i now realize that i calculated too less hd space for '/' (/dev/sda1 2,4G  1,8G  475M  80% ) .... that is not an immediate problem because /home is mounted elsewhere. do you think i will get in deeper trouble with 475 MB for '/'
[04:33] <chocoIate> so basically if i dont have a live connection to the internet i'm must go get it manually
[04:33] <Seveas> chocoIate, no, if you have universe enabled, apt-get install mono should work
[04:33] <cassiano> the f5 results, but the movie goes bad
[04:33] <Seveas> maybe an apt-get update is needed
[04:34] <chocoIate> universe enabled ;-?
[04:34] <cassiano> does totem read dvd?
[04:34] <chocoIate> and where do i enable universe :o
[04:34] <bigfoot> resiak, i got gmplayer, does this mean i can now delete mplayer? 2nd question, where do i put in the URL for the internet audio file?
[04:34] <dcraven> cassiano: Sure it does.
[04:34] <Seveas> chocoIate, can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[04:35] <dcraven> cassiano: It's totem-xine that I use to be more precise.
[04:35] <chocoIate> i'm going to have to disconnect, reboot back in linux, get it, reboot back in winxp and give it to you :P
[04:35] <giard> for the sake of argument, let's say one was crazy enough to try breezy before that person saw the warning not to, is there a way around this "could not open default font 'fixed'" problem?
[04:35] <chocoIate> what should i expect to see in the sources.list :o
[04:35] <cassiano> ah
[04:35] <chocoIate> the list of packages installed on my system :-?
[04:36] <resiak> bigfoot: If you really want, and not a clue. I don't use gmplayer :)
[04:36] <HappyFool> chocoIate: there's a utility to access ext3 filesystems from windows
[04:36] <Seveas> chocoIate, no, the list of enabled repositories
[04:36] <incorrect> has anyone compiled ubuntu's debootstrap under gentoo?
[04:36] <Seveas> incorrect, why on earth would you want that?
[04:36] <thr1ce> incorrect, this is #ubuntu, lots of us use that
[04:36] <chocoIate> repository as in ;-?
[04:36] <jaco_> which is the url to submit a breezy bug?
[04:37] <incorrect> thr1ce, cause i am making a ubuntu usbkey ring
[04:37] <bigfoot> resiak, would it be logical to suppose that if a URL won't work in mplayer, it won't work in Gmplayer?
[04:37] <Seveas> jaco_, bugzilla.ubuntu.com for packages from main/restricted malone for others
[04:37] <dcraven> giard: One could change his apt sources back to hoary and reinstall xorg I think.
[04:37] <chocoIate> how do i universe enable my version of ubuntu, like you have Seveas :o
[04:37] <Seveas> jaco_, and *PLEASE* make sure it is not related to the X transition or the C++ transition
[04:37] <thr1ce> uncomment everything in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:37] <Seveas> thr1ce, not really :)
[04:38] <jaco_> seveas there is a package dep not satisfied with mplayer
[04:38] <thr1ce> well, that will enable everything...no reason not to
[04:38] <Seveas> chocoIate, uncomment all lines in /etc/apt/sources.list that start with #deb
[04:38] <jaco_> and the same thing with beagle
[04:38] <Seveas> jaco_, are you using marillat/backports?
[04:38] <jaco_> Seveas,  no i'm using only breezy
[04:38] <incorrect> if i can get the debootstrap i can make a bootable ubuntu on a usb drive
[04:39] <thr1ce> Seveas, oh, haha, I see what you mean
[04:39] <Seveas> ok thr1ce  ;)
[04:39] <giard> dcraven: let's say one tries to do that and gets a "Reinstallation of xserver-xorg is not possible, it cannot be downloaded" error
[04:39] <thr1ce> :)
[04:39] <Seveas> there are enough newbies around that would take your advice litterally thr1ce
[04:39] <Seveas> believe me!
[04:39] <thr1ce> Seveas, I forget these minor things :)
[04:40] <dcraven> giard: Did this guy apt-get update?
[04:40] <giard> dcraven: he did
[04:40] <Seveas> giard, and hopefully not using breezy...
[04:40] <bigfoot> can anyone here try working out an internet audio file (windows streaming media) for me? Coz I can get it to work in FF (with mplayer plugin) but not in terminal's mplayer command nor in Gmplayer. The url is http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/swn/oneplace/wm/wi/wi20050515.wax
[04:41] <Seveas> giard, i must read, sorry
[04:41] <giard> Seveas: let's say this person is trying to backtrack because of a bad update that happened as the xorg and c++ transitions began
[04:41] <Seveas> giard, there is a fix: you must manually fix the path in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to the path defined in the xfonts-base package
[04:41] <bigfoot> But i don't want to use the mplayer plugin, coz as resiak pointed out, it's rather useless (with no controls for playback, rewind, pause, forward, etc).
[04:41] <MacCall> hello
[04:41] <giard> Seveas: do you have that path onhand?
[04:41] <Seveas> giard, i do not use breezy :)
[04:42] <bigfoot> dcraven, would you pee on non-stream WMA as well?
[04:42] <Seveas> giard dpkg -L xfonts-base should give you a clue
[04:42] <jaco_>  You must choose a component to file this bug in. If necessary, just guess.
[04:42] <jaco_> what it want?
[04:42] <dcraven> bigfoot: Yes.
[04:42] <jaco_> i've filled everything
[04:42] <bigfoot> dcraven, why? 8-)
[04:42] <MacCall> i'm looking for the place where $path is defined via gnome : i mean why "echo $PATH > /tmp/aa && gedit /tmp/aa" is different when i launch it via the shell or via the gnome launcher ?
[04:42] <dcraven> bigfoot: Poor format choice.
[04:43] <bigfoot> can anyone tell me how to use a ubuntu program to play Windows media files, please?
[04:43] <thr1ce> win32codecs
[04:43] <bigfoot> dcraven, oh, but as the listener, i don't have much choice... sadly.
[04:43] <dcraven> bigfoot: Oh but you do.
[04:43] <Seveas> bigfoot, iirc the only option is to install w32codecs from marillat
[04:44] <bigfoot> thr1ce, i have win32codecs, as evidenced by my ability to play the above-pasted link in Firefox via mplayer plugin.
[04:44] <giard> Seveas: many thank yous
[04:45] <bigfoot> Seveas, the problem that's kinda confounding me is: why can i have mplayer plugin play the windows media audio stream inside firefox without any problems, but I can't in Terminal-->mplayer?
[04:45] <bigfoot> dcraven, pray, do tell.
[04:45] <Spitty> anyone about that could give me a hand with some kernel issues?
[04:45] <dcraven> bigfoot: Don't listen?
[04:45] <dcraven> lol
[04:45] <bigfoot> oh, _that_ option.
[04:46] <marios> hello everyone
[04:46] <bigfoot> hi marios!
[04:46] <marios> what's new in here? the usual? :)
[04:46] <dcraven> bigfoot: Free file formats are the only ideology I try my best to abide by.
[04:46] <bigfoot> seveas, do you have mplayer or gmplayer?
[04:47] <Seveas> mplayer
[04:47] <bigfoot> I don't know if the problem is with just the URL.... or with the Ubuntu program...
[04:47] <Spitty> Could someone please tell me if Ubuntu requires initrd when compiling a custom kernel?
[04:47] <thr1ce> it looks like it's not resolving
[04:47] <Seveas> bigfoot, but i only use mplayer for the FF plugin :)
[04:47] <marios> what's the problem?
[04:47] <thr1ce> Spitty, if you install the modules, why should it?
[04:47] <dcraven> Spitty: No, but you need to compile things like IDE and filesystem statically.
[04:47] <Spitty> that's what i want to know
[04:47] <Seveas> Spitty, only if you don't compile it all in. That's not ubuntu specific
[04:48] <thr1ce> usually that's if you compile your FS in as a module
[04:48] <bigfoot> Seveas, if mplayer plugin (in FX) could play an audio file, why can't mplayer (in Terminal) work?
[04:48] <Spitty> right... i've been trying for two days to make a kernel without initrd, but it's continously failed.  i do have all the modules that are necessarily compiled in
[04:48] <thr1ce> just do them statically, and you'll be fine (along with IDE of course)
[04:48] <Seveas> bigfoot, i wouldn't know..
[04:48] <othernoob> how do i set the jre so that opera8 recognizes it?
[04:49] <dcraven> Spitty: Not all of them ;P
[04:49] <bigfoot> Seveas, with the mplayer plugin, how can you pause the audio, or fast forward to your desired point in time?
[04:49] <Spitty> i guess not, i'm just at my wit's end about what else to add
[04:49] <bigfoot> that's my only problem, seveas: playback control.
[04:49] <dcraven> bigfoot: Fast forward a stream?
[04:50] <Spitty> i have my SATA disks supported, i have my chipset supported, i have IDE supported, i have my processor, APG accelleration, USB drive, all supported
[04:50] <Spitty> and yet, no boot
[04:50] <thr1ce> what's the error?
[04:50] <slept> Spitty, you mustn't to comile ide  as module ,
[04:50] <thr1ce> compile those all statically
[04:50] <bigfoot> dcraven, yes, i believe that it's possible. In my Windows OS experience, you could do that. Just slide the slider to whatever minute:time position you want, then the program will take some time to buffer, and off you go again.
[04:50] <thr1ce> not as module
[04:50] <Spitty> the module is "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,1)"
[04:51] <Spitty> right, they are all compiled into the kernel
[04:51] <dcraven> bigfoot: cool
[04:51] <thr1ce> yes, you didn't compile in your FS statically
[04:51] <scapor> Spitty: do you have support for your filesystam statically compiled ?
[04:51] <marios> please don't mention Winblows :p
[04:51] <thr1ce> Spitty, compile it in NOT as a module
[04:51] <bigfoot> marios, i'll try not to.
[04:51] <scapor> marios: let's pretend to be grown-ups and name it "windows" :p
[04:51] <Spitty> i have ext2 and ext3 support set to be static, NOT as a module
[04:51] <bigfoot> but i am having a problem with Linux that i don't with Win****.
[04:52] <dcraven> Spitty: Can you paste your menu.lst to ubuntu.pastebin.com?
[04:52] <Spitty> sure, hold on a sec
[04:52] <thr1ce> dcraven, that shouldn't matter...
[04:52] <dcraven> thr1ce: No?
[04:52] <thr1ce> just compile in the FS...not as a module, and it should get past that
[04:52] <marios> @scapor: do we really have to? :p
[04:53] <scapor> Spitty: and yuo're surely NOT using reiserfs, right ? ;-)
[04:53] <scapor> marios: if you're oldere then 12, then please do so
[04:53] <Spitty> scapor, nope
[04:53] <marios> ok, scapor :)
[04:53] <scapor> Spitty: did you ever had winxp on tehat box or still have it ?
[04:53] <dcraven> thr1ce: I think I got that panic when I refered to my SATA drive as /hda instead of /sda in my grub config.
[04:54] <Spitty> i had winXP once, but that was a long time ago
[04:54] <Spitty> and the menu.lst is up on the pastebin site
[04:54] <scapor> Spitty: ifso, you should have support for windows's partition table stuf  (LDM)
[04:54] <thr1ce> it complains about his root file system though
[04:54] <piripicchio> hi, could you advice me a nice graphical mail client to read the local mails? (username@localhost)
[04:54] <thr1ce> well, I suppose that could be it
[04:54] <thr1ce> unknown drive...mabe you're right...I've never dealt with sata  :(
[04:54] <scapor> piripicchio: evolution ;)
[04:55] <dcraven> That isn't it. He has sda1
[04:55] <bigfoot> can someone help me, please?
[04:55] <mikey_> bigfoot: whats up?
[04:55] <piripicchio> scapor: and what about pop server? i receive mails from local MTA
[04:55] <scapor> piripicchio: evolution can read it all ..just try it out ;)
[04:55] <myside> hello
[04:55] <marios> hello myside
[04:56] <scapor> myside: welcome, ask your questions
[04:56] <dcraven> I gotta split.. Later.
[04:56] <mikey_> can anyone point me in the direction of some tips and tricks of setting up ubuntu ?
[04:56] <bigfoot> mikey_, i just need to find out if a URL that I'm trying to load (an audio file) is a problem with the URLitself, or with the setup in my computer.
[04:56] <mikey_> bigfoot: want me to try it?
[04:56] <scapor> mikey_: http;/google.com
[04:56] <Spitty> so... anyone have any suggestions?
[04:56] <piripicchio> scapor: thanks :)
[04:57] <scapor> bigfoot: try another audio file of the same type
[04:57] <thr1ce> Spitty, don't compile in your FS as a module
[04:57] <thr1ce> did you do that?
[04:57] <scapor> bigfoot: if it has no probs it must be a prob with the first file :|
[04:57] <Spitty> nope
[04:57] <Spitty> it's static
[04:57] <scapor> Spitty: the LDM thing !
[04:57] <thr1ce> and you re-compiled it, and rebooted into it?
[04:57] <marios> @mikey: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/f-15.html
[04:57] <marios> but that is for older version
[04:57] <bigfoot> mikey_, yes please. I need you to try it _not_ in FX, but in a ubuntu program, all right? ( scapor ) Coz I _can_ play it in FX, but I don't want to. I want to play it in an external audio player.
[04:57] <Spitty> tr1ce, yes.. scapor- could you elaborate a bit, please?
[04:57] <marios> Warty 4.10
[04:58] <marios> mikey: http://www.opencontent.it/tips_tricks/tips_ubuntu
[04:58] <mikey_> bigfoot: ok, u tell me what u want me to do, and ill give it ago
[04:58] <slept> Spitty, do you have the right sata patch
[04:58] <scapor> Spitty: somewhere in the "partition types" section when you do your (menu)config of your kernel !
[04:58] <bigfoot> try this link in a ubuntu internet-audio playing program: http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/swn/oneplace/wm/wi/wi20050515.wax
[04:59] <Spitty> scapor, ok. slept- yes, i have the via_sata module static in the kernel
[04:59] <Spitty> and scapor, according to xconfig, LDM is static in the kernel
[04:59] <jasoncohen> after adding btaudio to /etc/modules i no longer have sound in most apps.it shows my 1st soundcard as the bttv btaudio device
[05:00] <thr1ce> kernel sources isn't installed by default on hoary?
[05:00] <gub> hi
[05:00] <Spitty> hello
[05:00] <pjw> hi all, Does Synaptic Package Manager contain all packages from Ubuntu?
[05:01] <Seveas> pjw, if you have enabled universe and multiverse: yes
[05:02] <thr1ce> pjw, if you enable everything in /etc/apt/sources.list, yes
[05:03] <pjw> ok
[05:03] <Seveas> brb
[05:07] <Ali_Baba> mikey_: look ubuntu forums HOWTOS :)
[05:08] <pjw> Is Ubuntu concordant with Linux Standard Base 2.0?
[05:09] <fonsken> how can i install the kernel source for 2.6.10 (current kernel) via apt-get?
[05:09] <fonsken> it doesnt find kernel-source-2.6.10
[05:09] <bigfoot> mikey_, you there?
[05:10] <_abbenormal> what you wanting to do fonsken
[05:10] <|QuaD-_> anyone know what an mpc is? some sort of music file
[05:10] <foreach> musepack, I believe
[05:10] <|QuaD-_> what musepack
[05:11] <_abbenormal> just get the sources or make a new kernel
[05:11] <kyncani> fonsken: you're looking for linux-source-2.6.10
[05:11] <jason_> if i want to build a kernel module like ivtv, i should install the kernel-headers right?
[05:11] <jason_> not the kernel-source
[05:12] <fonsken> _abbenormal, just sources
[05:12] <fonsken> kyncani, thanks!
[05:12] <jason_> and i should link kernel-headers-2.6.10-5-386 to linux
[05:12] <_abbenormal> you need the kernel source too
[05:12] <jason_> _abbenormal, i do?
[05:12] <_abbenormal> yes
[05:13] <_abbenormal> you intend to build with support
[05:13] <jason_> i'm not used to having kernel headers +kernel source
[05:13] <jason_> do you know if ubuntu has ubuntu built into the kernel?
[05:13] <_abbenormal> i use both and the ones from kernel.org
[05:14] <jason_> so, if i need to enable a kernel module, i have to make a custom kernel?
[05:14] <_abbenormal> not sure about ubu but i would think it would start with a vanilla kernel like most debian os do
[05:14] <_abbenormal> i would think you need the .config from what you are running now
[05:14] <_abbenormal> i would
[05:14] <fonsken> another question: with apt-get, does it upgrade to a new kernel automatically when there is a new one available?
[05:15] <Spitty> how do you get the config from the currently running kernel?
[05:15] <JDahl> fonsken, yes, if you choose the generic package linux-image-386
[05:15] <jason_> Spitty, cp /boot/config-'(uname -r)' /usr/src/linux/.config
[05:16] <Spitty> ok, i just needed the location of it
[05:16] <Spitty> thanks
[05:16] <kyncani> fonsken: you mean does it upgrade the linux-source ?
[05:16] <fonsken> kyncani, also, but i mean the kernel itself...
[05:16] <_abbenormal> i go to the /boot and cp it from there
[05:16] <_abbenormal> thanks jason
[05:17] <kyncani> fonsken: packages like linux-686 will be upgraded for security updates at least
[05:17] <incorrect> will the ubuntu debootstrap work under debian?
[05:19] <bigfoot> Hi all, A question re: synaptic. When marking a file/package for installation, sometimes a dialog box comes up saying that other files are needed for it to work. During uninstallation, will deleting that installed file automatically delete all the other installed files?
[05:19] <_abbenormal> i would think it would handle it incorrect as it follows debian rules very well
[05:20] <_abbenormal> ubuntu that is
[05:20] <JDahl> bigfoot, if no other files depend on them, yes
[05:21] <incorrect> guess not
[05:22] <incorrect> libc6 is out of date
[05:22] <incorrect> i can't get it to run under gentoo
[05:22] <bigfoot> JDahl, what if instead of marking _that_ main file (the file chosen by the PC user for installation) for uninstallation, the user marks one of those files that Synaptic said were required? Would that work just as well, too?
[05:23] <Spitty> ok, i'm going to try this kernel again. be back soon, hopefully
[05:23] <JDahl> bigfoot, if you're trying to uninstall a package that other packages depend on, then you would get warning about broken dependencies
[05:25] <JDahl> bigfoot, but maybe that's not what you're asking?
[05:25] <toran> hey guys, I just got xmame working on ubuntu. I was wondering, how do you use xmame's network play capabilities? does anyone have experience with this?
[05:27] <phanter> hello, i use an IBM laptop with a Petium Mobile. Which kernel is the best to use: the 386 version, the 686 version or the 686-smp version?
[05:27] <JDahl> phanter, 686
[05:28] <Lafitte-> how do you check your kernal ?
[05:28] <phanter> At this moment I am running on 386, if I install 686 via synaptic, will it se this 686 version of the kernal after a reboot?
[05:28] <phanter> Lafitte-, what do ou want to check?
[05:28] <JDahl> Lafitte-, uname -r
[05:29] <Lafitte-> what verseion kernel i have
[05:29] <phanter> cat /proc/versoin
[05:29] <phanter> Lafitte-, cat /proc/versoin
[05:29] <Lafitte-> i have 2.6.10-5-386
[05:29] <phanter> version of course
[05:30] <Lafitte-> is this the wrong version of the kernel for a centrino laptop ?
[05:30] <Dittohead> How do I turn off the annoying system beep sound that occurs if I make a mistake and use the tabkey in the terminal?
[05:31] <Lafitte-> Dittohead,  under sounds
[05:31] <jason_> lol, i was an idiot and accidentally deleted /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386. can i rebuild them with make modules && make modules_install?
[05:31] <Lafitte-> systm > prefs > sound
[05:31] <aneurin> Dittohead, edit the terminal profile and deselect 'terminal bell'
[05:32] <Dittohead> Lafitte-, Thank you. I should've checked there but I thougt that was just for sound-card based sounds and events.
[05:32] <thechitowncubs> Hey, where should I look to get help for my palm pilot?
[05:32] <_abbenormal> Lafitte-: if its running now then no but if you wish to fine tune it more then make a new kernel
[05:32] <phanter> Lafitte-, I guess that you can use the 686 version as well (optimized for you architecture, but 368 will do the job to)
[05:32] <thechitowncubs> Does anyone know about getting palms set up?
[05:32] <Lafitte-> phanter, _abbenormal  thanks :)
[05:33] <Lafitte-> this 386 runs fine     super fast
[05:33] <Dittohead> aneurin, I'll do that if the beep occurs outside of GNOME terminal
[05:33] <Lafitte-> thechitowncubs,  what palm you have
[05:33] <thechitowncubs> m505
[05:34] <aneurin> Dittohead, I generally like the system bell for things, except when I'm using a terminal so by editing the profile I just disable it for that only
[05:34] <aneurin> so if you want a global solution, then Lafitte-'s method is what you want
[05:34] <Lafitte-> thechitowncubs, should work      goto  system>prfs>palmOS devices
[05:35] <Lafitte-> thechitowncubs,  how do you connect ??    usb   ?
[05:35] <Dittohead> aneurin, yeah, best solution is always the surgical one ;) I'll probably do that a little later, gotta get my sound card working first.
[05:35] <thechitowncubs> USB
[05:35] <Lafitte-> thechitowncubs,      ok   do lsUSB      and see your palm there
[05:35] <thechitowncubs> but i had to change the port
[05:36] <Lafitte-> use ttyUSB0   or ttyUSB1
[05:36] <thechitowncubs> ya...
[05:36] <thechitowncubs> I had to change it to USB1
[05:36] <thechitowncubs> but when I sync it, it seems to work, then it crashes my evolution data server
[05:36] <Lafitte-> then sync the palm from the handheld
[05:36] <thechitowncubs> I do
[05:36] <Lafitte-> thechitowncubs,  check and see if you have the conduits on in evolution
[05:37] <thechitowncubs> And when the date book gets synced, only the appointments that occur repeatedly apper.
[05:37] <thechitowncubs> Not the day to day ones.
[05:37] <thechitowncubs> And I have set the conduits
[05:37] <Lafitte-> thechitowncubs,  under evoluiotn        tools>pilot settings
[05:37] <thechitowncubs> yes
[05:39] <dell500> how do you get mpg to work with totem??
[05:39] <chocoIate> mono-devel_1.1.7-0ubuntu4_i386.deb <-- what does the 0ubuntu4 stand for
[05:39] <thechitowncubs> Lafitte- any ideas?
[05:39] <Lafitte-> dell500,  goto ubuntuguide.org      howto there
[05:39] <dell500> alright, i'll try xine
[05:39] <thechitowncubs> ubuntu4 is a naming structure for ubuntu specialized packages
[05:39] <Lafitte-> thechitowncubs, try gettying jpilot and see if it syncs
[05:40] <chocoIate> specialized as in ;-?
[05:40] <thechitowncubs> as in it uses different things than Debian's original one
[05:40] <hussam> is there anyway to do test install with dpkg without actually installing?
[05:41] <chocoIate> different things as in :o
[05:41] <chocoIate> all i want to know is which package should i choose and i got a 32 bit amd processor
[05:42] <Lafitte-> chocoIate,  i use 386   and works great
[05:42] <chocoIate> which package did you download Lafitte-
[05:43] <Lafitte-> hold on   ill get you the link
[05:43] <chocoIate> thanks
[05:43] <marios> ok, I am currently adressing: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136871
[05:44] <Lafitte-> chocoIate, http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso
[05:44] <chocoIate> whats that Lafitte- ; i want to install the mono package, i already have ubuntu hoary :P
[05:44] <bigfoot> my problem is: how do i know which file to mark for uninstallation if I want to uninstall all the files that Synaptic said were needed for that file to work? Take for a real example this: I was browsing thru Synaptic when Icame across an interesting newsletter called "Linux Gazette," so I downloaded one issue "lg-issue104." A dialog window popped up saying that other (about 8 more) files are needed. So I hit "OK." Later, I decided to delete it
[05:44] <bigfoot> and, i was hoping, all the other installed files, too. I took note of one file it needs, which is  called lg-base. Now when I mark for uninstallation the same file I marked for installation, namely lg-issue104, it only deletes only that file (lg-issue104). But if I mark-for-uninstallation the file called lg-base, Synaptic will wisely tell me that lg-issue104 can be deleted as well. So hopefully this illustrates my problem.  jdahl
[05:45] <Lafitte-> chocoIate,  oh sorry     thats the file i used
[05:45] <Lafitte-> chocoIate,  mono package ?
[05:45] <chocoIate> yep
[05:45] <leitao> why the 2.6.10 hoary kernel dont have fb support?
[05:45] <chocoIate> http://www.go-mono.com
[05:45] <_kevin> I want install the New Open Office Beta 2.0 on ubuntu, and replace my old 1.1.3  is this possible, and if so how can i do this
[05:45] <dell500> for some reason mpg aren't working in kaffiene, are there codecs specifically for kaffiene??
[05:45] <dell500> i've got sound, but no video
[05:46] <davix> how much karmain boots should cost me
[05:46] <Lafitte-> Delgul,  fix is at www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:47] <bigfoot> Even "Mark for Complete Removal" does not remove all the files which synaptic said were required for the package which I selected.
[05:48] <Lafitte-> chocoIate,  what is it ??  hehe
[05:48] <bigfoot> anyone, please help me.
[05:48] <JDahl> bigfoot, one way would be to use aptitude, search for lg-issue104 (type "/lg-issue104"), press tab to access field in the lower part half of the window and look for packages that either depend on lg-issue104 or packages that lg-issue104 depends on. Maybe you can do the same with synaptic - I dont know
[05:48] <Dittohead> If I disable my onboard soundcard in BIOS and I boot back into ubuntu, will it be removed from ubuntu too? Or do I manually have to remove it from config files?
[05:48] <_kevin> 1.1.3 has very poor compatibility with MS word documents, thus it's urgent i switch to OpenOffice 2.0, any idea how i mayve remove the 1.1.3 completely and install the new 2.0 beta and have it be the default program and also show up in the icons under Applications>Office
[05:49] <bigfoot> JDahl, what's aptitude?
[05:50] <Lafitte-> Dittohead,  what are you trying to do ?
[05:50] <chocoIate> Lafitte- : its a clone of the .net framework that runs on linux ; for software development :P
[05:50] <JDahl> bigfoot, aptitude a command line based package manager... dont be fooled because it's not graphical - it is absolutely great... + if you know how to use it, you're not screwed if you have to install something but X is not running
[05:50] <Lafitte-> chocoIate,  oic        so its an add on   or an OS ?
[05:50] <dell500> are there any other codecs i would need for mpg playback?
[05:51] <JDahl> bigfoot, (my typing is not normally this awful, I think - I am typing with one arm atm)
[05:51] <Lafitte-> dell500,  did you use the codecs add in ?
[05:51] <chocoIate> an ad-on, just a set of class libraries you can use for writing applications
[05:51] <Lafitte-> sweet
[05:51] <bigfoot> Can anyone with knowledge about Synaptic help me with the above looooooooooooong message/question?
[05:52] <Lafitte-> dell500,  did you add repositories yet ?
[05:52] <dell500> yup
[05:52] <Dittohead> Lafitte-, I've got an onboard card and a PCI soundcard, the PCI is card1, not card0, so "default" is piping out to card0 (the onboard card). I followed gandalf's tutorial on ubuntuforums, which is working, but only on the card0
[05:52] <dell500> Lafitte-, done both
[05:52] <Lafitte-> ok
[05:52] <dell500> anything else?
[05:52] <Lafitte-> let me scroll the page
[05:52] <elcu> _kevin: oo2 is in the repos as a seperate package collection.  you can install it seperately and then uninstall the old version's packages (i personally haven't done this).
[05:52] <Lafitte-> dell500,  what are you trying to view ??
[05:53] <dell500> just some movies i downloaded (full metal alchemist)
[05:54] <Lafitte-> i also instaleed xine    for better clarity
[05:54] <Lafitte-> sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[05:54] <Lafitte-> try that
[05:54] <dell500> did both lol
[05:54] <jason_> how should i load btaudio so that it doesn't conflict wth my sblive sound driver?
[05:54] <dell500> installed the dvd libs and xine right after
[05:54] <dell500> i get sound, but no video
[05:55] <Lafitte-> dell500,  you restarted  all players ?
[05:55] <ratius> hello does anyone know why wheni do apache2 restart i get this error?   Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/index.html:
[05:55] <ratius> Invalid command '<html', perhaps mis-spelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[05:56] <Lafitte-> dell500,  thats how i got mine working     otherwise   i dont know much more to tell you unfortunatly
[05:56] <ratius> in my .html page i didnt miss-spelled <html>
[05:59] <jason_> does anyone use btaudio here?
[06:00] <Seveas> ratius, why did you put your index.html in there?!?!
[06:00] <Seveas> that directory is for config files...
[06:00] <ratius> oh
[06:00] <ratius> where do i put the .html then ??
[06:00] <Seveas> ratius, i would strongly suggest that you read the apache manual...
[06:01] <goldfish>  /var/www/ ?
[06:01] <ratius> i tried /var/www/ maybe I didnt do it as i was supposed to
[06:01] <ratius> i'll try it again
[06:02] <goldfish> it needs the correct permissions
[06:02] <Seveas> ratius, READ the manual
[06:02] <Seveas> and the config
[06:02] <Seveas> in the configuration you specify where to put the html files
[06:03] <vicks> anyone here who can help me with a synaptic problem?
[06:03] <Seveas> vicks, maybe, if you state the problem :)
[06:04] <vicks> seveas =) when i try to update the package libxvidcore4, it says:
[06:04] <vicks> libxvidcore4:
[06:04] <vicks>   Beror: libc6 (>=2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed
[06:04] <Seveas> yay
[06:04] <vicks> borer = depends (swedish :-) )
[06:04] <Seveas> you are using marillat i guess
[06:04] <juanmals> Can anybody tell me what shall I do if i want to include a package in the ubunty distribution?
[06:05] <Seveas> or another repository meant for debian
[06:05] <Seveas> juanmals, you mean software that is currently not in the repository?
[06:05] <juanmals> yeah
[06:05] <vicks> Seveas: yeah i think so
[06:05] <Seveas> juanmals, and you want it to be included in the official repositories?
[06:05] <Seveas> vicks, then just don't use them anymore
[06:05] <juanmals> exactly Seveas
[06:06] <vicks> Seveas: ok, thanks'
[06:06] <Seveas> disable marillat testing and other debian sources
[06:06] <jason_> does anyone know how to start mythtv at boot?
[06:06] <jason_> the init.d file doesn't seem to work
[06:06] <Seveas> hoary is frozen now, debian testing froze later
[06:06] <Seveas> so dependency errors will arise
[06:06] <juanmals> I know how is the process in Debian, Seveas, but I have no idea how is the proccess in ubuntu
[06:06] <Seveas> juanmals, talk to the motu (wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU / wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates / #ubuntu-motu)
[06:07] <juanmals> thanks Seveas!
[06:07] <Seveas> juanmals, which software are we talking about?
[06:08] <juanmals> Firs I wish to include reddo, a simple command line translator written in python
[06:09] <\sh> juanmals: join #ubuntu-motu
[06:09] <chocoIate> what do commercial packages have over ubuntu ; is there a features list somewhere comparing commercial distros with ubuntu :o
[06:09] <incorrect> can the default kernel boot from a usb drive?
[06:09] <incorrect> or do i need to build a custom kernel
[06:09] <chocoIate> i'm trying to find motivation to purchasing a commercial distro over ubuntu :S
[06:10] <Seveas> juanmals, do you have a .deb package already?
[06:10] <Seveas> or a url where i can find it :)
[06:11] <g14> chocoIate: Linspire comes with click n run where you get to pay for lots of opensource software you can just as easily install through synaptic
[06:11] <juanmals> Yes Seveas, the project page is http://sourceforge.net/projects/reddo
[06:12] <BurgerMann> chocoIate, i don't think there's any difference in the packages between Ubuntu and commercial distros
[06:12] <_kevin> Hi i have a very big problem with ubuntu, Everytime i run synaptic i get this message Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[06:12] <_kevin> this happened after i marked to uninstall openoffice 1.1.3 and install the new Open Office 2.0
[06:13] <_kevin> and i applryed and during that i got some kind of error
[06:13] <g14> chocoIate: Suse has a little bit better out of the box wireless / bluetooth support but that should change after the next version of ubuntu comes out (October timeframe)
[06:13] <_kevin> and now i no longer have openoffice 1.1.3 show up in the office sectopn... and neither did it install openoffice 2.0
[06:13] <Seveas> _kevin, try this: mv ~/.Xauthority ~/.Trash
[06:13] <Seveas> and then logout and log back in
[06:13] <_abbenormal> what is the command to set a different video driver in x dpkg reconfigure {something}
[06:14] <_kevin> i type that in the terminal?
[06:14] <Seveas> _abbenormal, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (but make a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf first)
[06:14] <Seveas> _kevin, yes
[06:14] <_abbenormal> thanks
[06:14] <_kevin> damn my termial is not even opennin... it says opening and then it just dissappears
[06:15] <Seveas> hmm
[06:15] <Seveas> sounds like you have more problems with Xauthority :)
[06:15] <_kevin> yes
[06:15] <zenrox> _kevin,  open a system monitor to see if its still loading
[06:15] <iRonYk> does anyone know, why i cannot update apt-get repository list?
[06:15] <iRonYk> apt-get update cannot connect to the servers in the list
[06:15] <_kevin> No
[06:15] <Seveas> _kevin, drop to a console by hitting <ctrl><alt><F4>, log in there, type the command and go back to gui with <alt><f7>
[06:16] <_kevin> it's doesn't open either
[06:16] <g14> kev0r: CTRL ALT F1 and you should get a console. CTRL ALT F7 to get back to the gui
[06:16] <Seveas> iRonYk, are you using backports?
[06:16] <g14> Seveas: Beat me to it :)
[06:16] <Seveas> g14, <alt><f7> to go back...
[06:16] <iRonYk> well, i put everything from the unofficial guide there
 is only needed in X
[06:16] <Seveas> iRonYk, that's stupid :)
[06:16] <iRonYk> thanx a lot
[06:16] <zenrox> Seveas,  but alt ctrl and f7 does work
[06:16] <Seveas> iRonYk, make suru there are no backports in there, backports are down at the moment
[06:17] <iRonYk> not even official servers connect
[06:17] <zenrox> yep
[06:17] <Seveas> iRonYk, that's odd
[06:17] <Seveas> can you paste the error on ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[06:17] <iRonYk> yeah, it starts updating, shows 50% is stuck for few minutes and then tells me the connection timedout
[06:18] <Seveas> ah ok
[06:18] <iRonYk> if i ping the servers from console i get 1 ms response
[06:18] <Seveas> that's about when it reaches the backports in your sources.list
[06:18] <Seveas> iRonYk, can you paste your sources.list on ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[06:18] <BurgerMann> does Synaptic orignally derive from Debian?
[06:18] <iRonYk> i will try and do that
[06:19] <iRonYk> what highliting? PHP?
[06:19] <Seveas> bash
[06:19] <iRonYk> sure :)
[06:22] <iRonYk> ok, its there, of course on kubuntu.pastebin.com, since im on kubuntu now
[06:22] <Seveas> lol :)
[06:22] <seraphiel> where can I find bmp plugins?
[06:23] <JDahl> are there some screenshots of kubuntu somewhere?
[06:23] <Arnald> problem with universe packages file?
[06:23] <iRonYk> what happenes now< Seveas? :)
[06:23] <thr1ce> can someone explain backports to me?
[06:23] <Riddell> JDahl: kubuntu.org links to them
[06:23] <cspan> hi, i just built a kernel module, but when i tell modprobe to load it, it says it's not there
[06:24] <cspan> but it is
[06:24] <Seveas> iRonYk, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/287494
[06:24] <Seveas> check that out and see what changed :)
[06:25] <Seveas> read the comment near the marillat repositories too
[06:25] <ronaldo> thr1ce: what do you mean
[06:25] <ronaldo> the term backports
[06:25] <thr1ce> what are backports used for?
[06:25] <ronaldo> ?
[06:25] <iRonYk> ok, give me a sec
[06:25] <Seveas> cspan, is it somewhere under /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ ?
[06:26] <ronaldo> sometimes a bug gets fixed in a newer version of a package
[06:26] <ronaldo> but someone also implements the fix for an older release so that people do not have to run bleeing edge releases
[06:26] <ronaldo> but can remain on a slighlty older tree
[06:26] <thr1ce> oh...hm
[06:26] <elcu> seraphiel: http://www.sosdg.org/~larne/w/Plugin_list
[06:26] <thr1ce> i thought it was a way of running a few new packages, but not everything
[06:27] <cspan> Seveas, yeah, it is under /lib/modules/'uname -r'/misc/
[06:27] <ronaldo> thr1ce: no
[06:27] <Seveas> thr1ce, there are packages in the hoary-extras section of the backport repository
[06:27] <Seveas> but they are not actually backports
[06:27] <Seveas> but people refer to these as backports since they are in the backports repository
[06:28] <Seveas> cspan, what is the error?
[06:28] <cspan> Seveas, # modprobe mol
[06:28] <cspan> FATAL: Module mol not found.
[06:28] <iRonYk> seveas, no change :) actually marillat was the only thing that got synced with apt-get update ;)
[06:28] <HappyFool> don't forget depmod -a
[06:28] <iRonYk> i dont understand it
[06:28] <cspan> what's depmod -a?
[06:29] <HappyFool> it builds a module dependency list
[06:29] <IcemanV9> here's my case - client box is plain vanilla w/o X. host box has X installed. is it possible to run X over ssh on a client box?? if yes, is there a howto?
[06:29] <Seveas> iRonYk, and it fails on an official repository?
[06:29] <HappyFool> by scanning /lib/modules/<version>/
[06:29] <iRonYk> yes, that is what puzzles me
[06:29] <Seveas> good one HappyFool
[06:29] <HappyFool> try it, then run the modprobe again
[06:30] <cspan> yeah
[06:30] <mjr> n,29
[06:30] <cspan> it worked, hannes_
[06:30] <cspan> oops
[06:30] <cspan> HappyFool,
[06:30] <HappyFool> good :)
[06:30] <cspan> now i have another question
[06:30] <cspan> i have tried building the realtime-lsm module
[06:30] <cspan> but it complains that my stock kernel doesn't have security something support
[06:31] <Seveas> iRonYk, these servers wotk fine over here, where exactly does apt-get update fail?
[06:31] <bigfoot> When packages/programs are downloaded via Synaptic, why doesn't it make shortcuts into the Gnome Menu (just like Windows would)?
[06:31] <cspan> does that mean that in order to use realtime-lsm i need to build my own kernel?
[06:31] <Seveas> bigfoot, because, just like in windows, packages need to define these shortcuts
[06:31] <Seveas> and if a package doesn't, no shortcuts are created
[06:31] <iRonYk> it tries to connect to the repository, i get 99% completed and it freezes for few moments
[06:31] <iRonYk> minutes
[06:31] <Ali_Baba> bigfoot killall gnome-panel updates the menu.
[06:31] <Seveas> cspan, yes...
[06:31] <iRonYk> then i get connection timeout
[06:32] <HappyFool> what's realtime-lsm for?
[06:32] <Seveas> which repository exactly iRonYk ?
[06:32] <iRonYk> for instance tr.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:32] <Seveas> that server works fine from here
[06:32] <cspan> uuuuh
[06:33] <Seveas> try se.archive.ubuntu.com (that one actually is different from archive.ubuntu.com, tr.archive.ubuntu.com isn't :))
[06:33] <iRonYk> i believe it does, see me on IRC?! my connection works fine, i can ping the repository, but cannot sync with apt-get update
[06:33] <cspan> and, please, could somebody tell me of a good reference source for learning how to build a kernel for someone who does not now anything at all about building kernels?
[06:33] <HappyFool> i think the wiki has a page on kernel-building
[06:34] <Bramme> a little problem with valknut: i can connect to hubs but a search on madonna for example gives me 0 results, while i'm connected to two hubs with 6000 people each
[06:34] <Seveas> Bramme, we do not support copyright infringment in here
[06:35] <DefHandz> I am having trouble with Kubuntu
[06:35] <DefHandz> Internet troubles
[06:35] <iRonYk> u know what is funny, i get some progress in the beginnning, then it freezes
[06:35] <Bramme> it's just a piece of software that's included in ubuntu Seveas
[06:35] <iRonYk> what is wrong? i am desperate
[06:35] <Bramme> i can search on nature pictures too
[06:35] <Seveas> dennis@mirage ~ $ apt-cache search valknut
[06:35] <Seveas> dennis@mirage ~ $
[06:35] <DefHandz> It cant find the DHCP
[06:35] <BurgerMann> What do u think of a name like linuxpusher for a internet store? :S
[06:35] <DefHandz> I used ifconfig, and that didnt help tell me what to do
[06:35] <Bramme> Seveas, in ubuntu it's called dcgui-qt ;)
[06:35] <Seveas> ah
[06:36] <Seveas> iRonYk, as i said, try a different server, maybe it helps
[06:36] <Bramme> but officialy it's named valknut
[06:36] <xMaximex> I installed lm-sensors, but the temperature showed in gkrellm are not accurate to those in the bios .. how to fix that ?
[06:36] <iRonYk> i tried the one you sent, same thing
[06:36] <Seveas> hmm
[06:36] <iRonYk> do i need to set up something in preferences file?
[06:36] <DefHandz> Anyone know?
[06:36] <Seveas> no, this should work, weird
[06:36] <salmenara> hi
[06:36] <iRonYk> maybe my router blocks it? something with proxy? i have no idea
[06:37] <DefHandz> My router isnt recognizing that i am connected
[06:37] <DefHandz> and I cannot connect to the internet
[06:37] <salmenara> this is my first time installing Ubuntu and I have a few questions..... where is root ?
[06:37] <Seveas> iRonYk, you do know that the output of apt-get update is not neccessarily in order of servers tried
[06:37] <Seveas> iRonYk, can you please try apt-get update again and paste the output on kubuntu.pastebin.com
[06:37] <iRonYk> i left only one server uncommented, the one u sent me ;)
[06:37] <HappyFool> salmenara: by default root is disabled. use sudo, and enter your user's password when prompted
[06:37] <nevyn> Seveas: there is no root.
[06:37] <cspan> salmenara, if you did an ordinary install there is no root user, you must use sudo
[06:37] <Seveas> salmenara, wiki.ubuntu.xom/RootSudo
[06:37] <cspan> but if you did an expert install you do have root
[06:37] <DefHandz> Alright, it really sounds like people are ignoring me.
[06:38] <iRonYk> i am not that new to this, but tell me, how do i output to a file?
[06:38] <nevyn> seraphiel: <jedi>you don't need to be root</jedi>
[06:38] <Seveas> DefHandz, can you be a bit more specific
[06:38] <Seveas> iRonYk, sudo apt-get update > output.txt
[06:38] <nevyn> cspan: s/must/should/
[06:38] <bigfoot> Seveas, are you saying that some programs don't have any shortcuts defined, and that the PC user must put them there manually?
[06:38] <DefHandz> Hm...
[06:38] <DefHandz> WEll, I just cant connect to the internet.
[06:38] <Seveas> bigfoot, yes, that'll change for breezy
[06:38] <iRonYk> no, no :) i mean, if i need to cancel the process, because update goes on and on telling me there is connection timeout
[06:38] <DefHandz> I switched from Windows XP to Kubuntu and it isnt finding the DHCP.
[06:39] <iRonYk> but if i cancel the operation, there is no output
[06:39] <DefHandz> Do I have to configure something?
[06:39] <Seveas> DefHandz, how did you setup your network connection? gui or command line?
[06:39] <salmenara> Thanks, HappyFool / cspan / Seveas
[06:39] <bigfoot> Seveas, is that so? are you getting news about breezy?
[06:39] <DefHandz> I went into Control Center and everytime i enabled the card, it disabled back.
[06:39] <DefHandz> -_-
[06:39] <salmenara> HappyFool: Where can I check my X configuration?
[06:39] <Seveas> bigfoot, the motu team will put a shortcut definition in packages that don't have one
[06:39] <DefHandz> Putting in the gateway made the Router light turn on where the cable is connected.
[06:39] <Seveas> DefHandz, maybe you should try the terminal command
[06:39] <DefHandz> What is that?
[06:40] <HappyFool> salmenara: well, other than /etc/X11/xorg.conf, i'm not sure how to check it
[06:40] <Seveas> DefHandz, open a root terminal with applications -> system tools -> root terminal
[06:40] <HappyFool> salmenara: to reconfigure, you can do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[06:40] <daniels> salmenara: why do you want to mess with your X configuration?
[06:40] <xMaximex> sensors output :
[06:40] <salmenara> HappyFool: I have checked it and I have the same problem that in Debian
[06:40] <DefHandz> oK
[06:40] <DefHandz> and?
[06:40] <xMaximex> M/B Temp:    +28C  (high =  +105C, hyst =    +0C)
[06:40] <xMaximex> CPU Temp:  +50.0C  (high =   +95C, hyst =   +85C)          (beep)
[06:40] <xMaximex> but in gkrellm it's not that
[06:40] <Seveas> DefHandz, wired or wireless?
[06:40] <DefHandz> Wired.
[06:40] <xMaximex> how to fix ?
[06:40] <Seveas> DefHandz, type: ifconfig eth0 up
[06:40] <salmenara> HappyFool: I've got a i915 card that is recognized as VESA
[06:41] <salmenara> I don't like that
[06:41] <daniels> salmenara: is it i915, or i945?
[06:41] <Seveas> DefHandz (and hit enter)
[06:41] <salmenara> i915
[06:41] <daniels> salmenara: and does it really have Driver "vesa" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[06:41] <Seveas> DefHandz, after that type: dhclient eth0
[06:41] <Seveas> DefHandz (and hit enter)
[06:41] <daniels> (i8xx uses VBE very, very heavily)
[06:41] <DefHandz> O_O
[06:41] <salmenara> yes it is
[06:41] <DefHandz> It says permission denied..
[06:41] <daniels> salmenara: warty or hoary?
[06:41] <DefHandz> I only have one account on the OS though
[06:41] <slept> how can I find out more about build dependencies dpkg-checkbuilddeps just tells me : Unmet build dependencies: pcmcia-source kernel-source
[06:41] <salmenara> hoary
[06:41] <salmenara> 5.04
[06:41] <Seveas> DefHandz, did you open a *root* terminal?
[06:41] <DefHandz> There is no APplications
[06:41] <DefHandz> How so?
[06:41] <salmenara> daniel: Identifier	"Intel Corporation i915 Integrated Graphics Controller"
[06:41] <DefHandz> ah
[06:41] <DefHandz> Found it :)
[06:41] <salmenara> daniel: Driver		"vesa"
[06:41] <Seveas> ok
[06:41] <daniels> salmenara: change Driver "vesa" to Driver "i810", and file a bug with the output of lspci and lspci -v, package xserver-xorg, assigned to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:42] <Seveas> DefHandz, i'll be back in a few minutes, please hang on
[06:42] <DefHandz> Ok.
[06:43] <salmenara> daniels: ok !
[06:43] <salmenara> daniels: the file was open read-only
[06:43] <salmenara> I should sudo there
[06:43] <elcu> slept: you could always just search each dependencie if you wanted to.  someone might know of something better.
[06:43] <daniels> salmenara: yeah
[06:43] <elcu> *dependency
[06:43] <DefHandz> Seveas, I cannot log in to Root Shell, there is no root account.
[06:44] <daniels> DefHandz: that's not how it works
[06:44] <DefHandz> X_X
[06:44] <DefHandz> There is no password for root on this computer then.
[06:44] <DefHandz> What is the default??
[06:44] <Seveas> DefHandz, you need your own password for that
[06:45] <DefHandz> Tried that, it went back to the normal shell and the command still brought an permission denied.
[06:45] <cspan> hey, is ther an ubuntu ppc channel?
[06:45] <aneurin> hmmmm hardware-monitor doesn't want to play ball
[06:45] <salmenara> daniels: I'll restart..... see you in a while!
[06:46] <Seveas> DefHandz, are you still in that shell?
[06:46] <DefHandz> one moment.
[06:46] <DefHandz> Locked up on me, had to reboot.
[06:46] <DefHandz> -_-
[06:46] <Seveas> hmm :|
[06:47] <DefHandz> Alright, Konsole
[06:47] <DefHandz> session?
[06:47] <DefHandz> ROot Shell.
[06:47] <Seveas> are you in the root shell?
[06:47] <DefHandz> Password:
[06:47] <DefHandz> X_X
[06:47] <shiv> I am new to linux, can somebody guide me to have my sound up and running? Please...
[06:47] <DefHandz> I know it, but it isnt accepting it.
[06:47] <Seveas> hmm, you're on kde...
[06:48] <DefHandz> Yes.
[06:48] <Seveas> open a normal shell
[06:48] <darkaudit> and it's Arsenal! Arsenal FC!
[06:48] <DefHandz> Kubuntu
[06:48] <DefHandz> ok
[06:48] <darkaudit> We're by far the greatest team the world will ever see
[06:48] <Seveas> noe type: sudo -i
[06:48] <salmenara> darkaudit: how does that match ended?
[06:48] <DefHandz> command not found
[06:48] <Seveas> and give it *your* password
[06:48] <Seveas> sudo -i says command not found?!?
[06:48] <darkaudit> Arsenal wins 5-4 on penalties after match ended 0-0 AET
[06:49] <DefHandz> oh
[06:49] <DefHandz> No :P
[06:49] <DefHandz> One second
[06:49] <Seveas> ah :)
[06:49] <Laforge> Hello i was wondering if anyone knew how to set up a network
[06:49] <DefHandz> you said noe type:
[06:49] <DefHandz> So I was like, oh ok
[06:49] <DefHandz> XD
[06:49] <DefHandz> Worked!
[06:49] <Seveas> haha
[06:49] <DefHandz> Thanks
[06:49] <Seveas> ok
[06:49] <Laforge> I have tulip installed but i don't have ethernet working
[06:49] <Seveas> now type the following:
[06:49] <Seveas> mii-diag eth0
[06:49] <DefHandz> ok
[06:49] <DefHandz> Ok.
[06:49] <Seveas> does that say "you have link beat" or "Link status: not established"?
[06:50] <DefHandz> not established.
[06:50] <Seveas> hmm, there's something wrong with your physical connection or network card driver then
[06:50] <DefHandz> X_X
[06:50] <DefHandz> Crap/
[06:50] <Seveas> what type of network card do you have?
[06:51] <DefHandz> X_X Not a clue atm
[06:51] <Seveas> type this in that shell: lspci | grep Ethernet
[06:51] <Seveas> and type it's output in here
[06:51] <DefHandz> Two of em
[06:51] <DefHandz> one second
[06:51] <DefHandz> Onboard and nic..
[06:52] <shiv> I am new to linux, can somebody guide me to have my sound up and running? Please...
[06:52] <Seveas> hmm, do you have an nforce mobo and is it plugged in the onboard one DefHandz ?
[06:52] <XromatX> Seveas, could NAT on the router cause, that i cannot connect to the official kubuntu reps?
[06:52] <DefHandz> No, I have a..
[06:52] <DefHandz> Er..
[06:52] <DefHandz> PCCHIPS
[06:52] <Seveas> XromatX, not really
[06:52] <Seveas> ok, then we need the output of lspci :)
[06:53] <DefHandz> 0000:00:01.1 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) Si900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 83)
[06:53] <Ali_Baba> shiv: look Ubuntu forum Sound HOWTOS :)
[06:54] <Seveas> DefHandz, and the other?
[06:54] <DefHandz> 0000:00:0b.0 Ethernet Controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21041 (Tulip Pass 3) (rev 21)
[06:54] <DefHandz> That is the one I am plugged into.
[06:54] <Ali_Baba> shiv: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26567 heres one.
[06:54] <Seveas> DefHandz, and you are sure the cable is connected to the router too?
[06:54] <DefHandz> yes,
[06:55] <IcemanV9> is it possible to run X over ssh from host box (with X) on a client box (without X installed)??
[06:55] <Seveas> can you try plugging it in the other card please
[06:55] <DefHandz> Its onboard. Yes.
[06:55] <DefHandz> :)
[06:55] <Seveas> oh wait!
[06:55] <Seveas> DefHandz, still there?
[06:55] <DefHandz> O_O
[06:55] <DefHandz> Yes
[06:55] <DefHandz> i switched it.
[06:55] <DefHandz> What...
[06:55] <Seveas> try mii-diag eth1
[06:55] <DefHandz> X_X
[06:55] <DefHandz> ok
[06:55] <Seveas> does that one also say "not established"?
[06:56] <DefHandz> Operation not supported...
[06:56] <DefHandz> X_X
[06:56] <Seveas> in the root shell?
[06:56] <surman> what version is breezy?
[06:56] <DefHandz> mmhm
[06:56] <surman> 5.04?
[06:56] <Seveas> surman, it will be 5.10
[06:56] <surman> k
[06:56] <Seveas> but it's not usable yet :)
[06:56] <surman> k
[06:56] <DefHandz> WOA
[06:56] <DefHandz> Eth0 works not
[06:57] <DefHandz> now
[06:57] <DefHandz> You have link beat
[06:57] <DefHandz> O_O
[06:57] <Seveas> nice :)
[06:57] <surman> ubuntu work well with netgear FA311 network card?
[06:57] <DefHandz> everything is working OK.
[06:57] <DefHandz> Alright, time to check...
[06:57] <Seveas> dhcp too?
[06:57] <Laforge> Does anyone know how to set up a Ethernet when i have Tulip installed
[06:57] <DefHandz> Gr.
[06:57] <DefHandz> Didnt work...
[06:57] <goldfish> Laforge: Did you install the ethernet card after you installed ubuntu?
[06:57] <Seveas> ok, try the mii-diag again DefHandz
[06:57] <Seveas> for eth0
[06:57] <DefHandz> Ok.
[06:58] <DefHandz> Yeah, thats what I did I mean
[06:58] <Laforge> Goldfish, no, when ubuntu installed it coulnd't detect the card
[06:58] <goldfish> k
[06:58] <DefHandz> I did 0 again and that said link beat
[06:58] <Seveas> ok
[06:58] <Seveas> now do this in the terminal:
[06:58] <Seveas> ifconfig eth0 up
[06:58] <Seveas> dhclient eth0
[06:59] <Seveas> and see what that does
[06:59] <iRonYk6> ok, Seveas, i posted the console output, would u have a look at it? I am ready to give up on it
[06:59] <DefHandz> sweet
[06:59] <DefHandz> bound to (IP)
[06:59] <DefHandz> >:P
[06:59] <DefHandz> Not telling
[06:59] <DefHandz> well
[06:59] <Laforge> Goldfish any ideas?
[06:59] <DefHandz> I think this will work
[06:59] <DefHandz> Swweeet
[06:59] <DefHandz> Workage.
[06:59] <DefHandz> :)
[06:59] <Seveas> nice :)
[06:59] <DefHandz> Thank you Seveas
[06:59] <Seveas> DefHandz, ok, now to automate it :)
[06:59] <iRonYk6> wait a second, why is it connecting through port 80?
[06:59] <Seveas> because otherwise you'll have to do this all the time
[06:59] <surman> Seveas i might need some help with my eth after i install ubuntu :)
[06:59] <DefHandz> mmhm
[06:59] <DefHandz> Ok?
[06:59] <goldfish> Laforge: nah, sorry :/ emmm, have u checked the forums?
[07:00] <Seveas> iRonYk, because all downloads are http
[07:00] <Laforge> not at the moment
[07:00] <Laforge> i like the help i get here better, much faster
[07:00] <iRonYk6> but my proxy works on 8080
[07:00] <Seveas> DefHandz, do this in a *normal* shell, not a root shell:
[07:00] <DefHandz> ok
[07:00] <Seveas> sudo gedit /etc/interfaces
[07:00] <surman> is only 1 cd needed for ubuntu?
[07:00] <Seveas> sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[07:00] <surman> cause its just a gnome standard right?
[07:00] <Seveas> only the lst one, sorry
[07:01] <Seveas> surman, there is 1 install cd and several gigabytes in the archives :)
[07:01] <DefHandz> sudo:gedit: command not found
[07:01] <DefHandz> O_O
[07:01] <Seveas> argh
[07:01] <Seveas> DefHandz, sorry
[07:01] <Seveas> sudo kate /etc/network/interfaces
[07:01] <DefHandz> X_X
[07:01] <DefHandz> oh ok
[07:01] <goldfish> nano !
[07:01] <Seveas> you are on kde, i forgot that :)
[07:02] <DefHandz> :P
[07:02] <cspan> Seveas, kate doesn't seem to work with sudo
[07:02] <DefHandz> I like KDE. Gnome isnt that fun to me.
[07:02] <DefHandz> :P
[07:02] <cspan> at least in my machine
[07:02] <cspan> i like kde too
[07:02] <DefHandz> Oh
[07:02] <Seveas> iRonYk, see apt/conf.d for proxy settings
[07:02] <DefHandz> Didnt work on me
[07:02] <DefHandz> XD
[07:02] <DefHandz> Kate crashed
[07:02] <DefHandz> XD
[07:02] <cspan> it looks better
[07:02] <Seveas> hehe
[07:02] <Seveas> ok, so we'll stay in the konsole:
[07:02] <Seveas> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[07:02] <Seveas> and please resize your konsole to full screen :)
[07:03] <DefHandz> Woa woa, how did you know it wasnt?
[07:03] <DefHandz> XD
[07:03] <Seveas> :)
[07:03] <DefHandz> No, really.
[07:03] <DefHandz> O_o
[07:03] <Seveas> did it work?
[07:03] <DefHandz> Yes
[07:03] <DefHandz> Im in some edit
[07:03] <Seveas> ok, do you see a line in that file that says 'auto eth0' ?
[07:03] <DefHandz> nope.
[07:03] <DefHandz> auto lo
[07:04] <DefHandz> under that is iface lo inet loopback
[07:04] <goldfish> DefHandz: down the very end?
[07:04] <jinxi> how do u make a screenshot from my terminal?
[07:04] <DefHandz> Eh
[07:04] <DefHandz> XD
[07:04] <kRomatX> seveas, i have solved it, it was the proxy issue
[07:04] <kRomatX> and the port
[07:04] <DefHandz> nope
[07:04] <goldfish> jinxi: gnome?
[07:04] <DefHandz> bottom has iface eth0 inet
[07:04] <jinxi> yes
[07:04] <Seveas> DefHandz, just inet?
[07:04] <DefHandz> yes...
[07:04] <goldfish> jinxi: in the computer menubar, there is a screenshot app.
[07:04] <Seveas> and no more lines with eth0?
[07:04] <DefHandz> nope.
[07:05] <Seveas> ok, change that line with eth0
[07:05] <DefHandz> to?
[07:05] <Seveas> it should be: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[07:05] <DefHandz> Ok
[07:05] <Seveas> and below that line add a new one containing: auto eth0
[07:05] <DefHandz> Now what
[07:05] <DefHandz> Save?
[07:05] <DefHandz> Oh ok
[07:05] <bobgreen5s> j
[07:05] <Seveas> and now save with <ctrl> + O
[07:05] <DefHandz> ok
[07:05] <DefHandz> wrote 19 lines
[07:05] <DefHandz> woot.
[07:05] <Seveas> and then exit with <ctrl> + X
[07:05] <DefHandz> close konsole?
[07:05] <DefHandz> ok
[07:06] <Seveas> then you can close konsole
[07:06] <DefHandz> yay
[07:06] <Seveas> it should work from now on :)
[07:06] <DefHandz> INternet = connectored.
[07:06] <DefHandz> :)
[07:06] <DefHandz> THanks
[07:06] <DefHandz> I like Kubuntu
[07:06] <DefHandz> ok
[07:08] <DefHandz> Heh.
[07:08] <DefHandz> Fixed.
[07:08] <DefHandz> 500 NICKS?
[07:08] <goldfish> yus.
[07:08] <goldfish> irc.ubuntu.org will be needed soon if it keeps going like this :)
[07:10] <DefHandz> O_O
[07:10] <DefHandz> Yikes
[07:10] <DefHandz> So, is there a .com too?
[07:11] <goldfish> hmmmmm
[07:13] <mirak> hi
[07:13] <mirak> hi
[07:13] <goldfish> hello
[07:14] <slept> Is there a reason why I can apt-get source modconf but not the deb ? Are there problems with the kernel images and modconf ?
[07:14] <mirak> what means "unraveled" and "barking" ?
[07:15] <xMaximex> How to tell gkrellm to use lm-sensors info to show cpu temp ??
[07:16] <incorrect> can you script fdisk?
[07:18] <batma8> hey guys
[07:18] <batma8> wow
[07:18] <batma8> linux is a whole new world
[07:19] <petroleum> indeed
[07:19] <batma8> so where do i go from here :)
[07:19] <batma8> i love it tho, hella fast
[07:19] <batma8> but im still trying to figure out how to install stuff
[07:19] <batma8> and how to naviage my system
[07:19] <surman> can i mnt windows in ubuntu?
[07:19] <goldfish> yes
[07:19] <K_Dallas> surman, sure
[07:20] <goldfish> batma8: www.ubuntuguide.org is a good place to start.
[07:20] <omeg> Hey, guys
[07:20] <starignus> hi
[07:20] <batma8> thank you goldfish
[07:20] <omeg> I'm wondering, Ubuntu probably won't work on a 150MHz laptop, right? :)
[07:20] <Galaxieretter> Hello everyone, I'm new to Liniux as a whole, and I was wondering what the Minimmum System requirements were for Ubnut
[07:20] <K_Dallas> surman, this is what i have in /etc/fstab:
[07:20] <K_Dallas> /dev/hda1       /media/windows/C  ntfs    umask=0222      0       0
[07:20] <omeg> I'm asking for a friend of mine. he wants to get Linux on his 150MHz. Maybe you guys know a good distro that will run on a system with those specs.
[07:21] <omeg> x86, that is.
[07:21] <Galaxieretter> *Ubunyu
[07:21] <omeg> Heh, Galaxieretter :p
[07:21] <K_Dallas> omeg: have a look at distrowattch.com
[07:21] <K_Dallas> -t
[07:21] <surman> nice
[07:21] <surman> k
[07:21] <omeg> Okay, thanks
[07:21] <surman> ubuntu looks great :)
[07:21] <Laforge> Can anyone help me setting up ethernet on a ADMtek card with tulip installed
[07:21] <[noobuntu] > Galaxieretter, join ubuntu-de
[07:21] <starignus> i need help, i want to update firefox from the synaptic, but there are some libraries that can be marked to be install , i have to add some repositories, i think , but i don't know wich ones????
[07:22] <surman> debian based ya?
[07:22] <K_Dallas> surman, it is
[07:22] <Galaxieretter> ok
[07:23] <surman> where are the rpms in the ubuntu-install-amd64.iso?
[07:23] <Galaxieretter> thanks
[07:23] <surman> or does it use .deb?
[07:23] <surman> oh
[07:23] <surman> :)
[07:23] <goldfish> hehe
[07:23] <K_Dallas> it uses debian packaging
[07:24] <surman> i'm an idiot :)
[07:24] <K_Dallas> nope, you are exploring
[07:24] <surman> :)
[07:24] <surman> i'm used to suse
[07:24] <surman> time to burn this iso
[07:25] <K_Dallas> i used suse too but got tired of acting like i was using windows so i decided to switch to something real, a real linux
[07:25] <K_Dallas> surman, you burning on windows or suse
[07:25] <K_Dallas> if on windows do not use nero
[07:25] <refuze2looze> what's not "real" about suse
[07:26] <goldfish> hmmmm
[07:26] <goldfish> K_Dallas: why not use nero?
[07:26] <surman> real?
[07:26] <K_Dallas> refuze2looze, too much gui for me
[07:26] <cspan> gui is good
[07:26] <surman> suse is great for newbies to linux
[07:26] <surman> :)
[07:26] <omeg> distrowatch is a nice site, but how do I know if distributions will actually work properly on such old (150MHz) computers? there's not a search option for older computers.
[07:26] <refuze2looze> K_Dallas: i didn't like it either, but it's still "really" linux =)
[07:26] <K_Dallas> goldfish, i have experienced and read that nero does not burn many of the recent linux isos
[07:26] <goldfish> K_Dallas: Oh right.
[07:26] <surman> time to boot to suse then
[07:26] <goldfish> surman: not as good as ubuntu
[07:26] <goldfish> :)
[07:27] <cspan> K_Dallas, if you want a hardcore cli experience why don't you go for gentoo or debian?
[07:27] <K_Dallas> refuze2looze, if i treat it like windows and use less xterm then it is windows to me ;) but you are right
[07:27] <mpm> anyone have any recommendations for Web-design software to run on Ubuntu, or for good opensource CMS?
[07:27] <Ali_Baba> ubuntu is best at the moment :)
[07:27] <K_Dallas> i use debian and gentoo was a waste of time on my part
[07:27] <surman> where are the md5 checksums for ubuntu?
[07:27] <BurgerMann> mpm, Quanta
[07:27] <K_Dallas> but why not slackware ;)
[07:27] <starignus>  i need help, i want to update firefox from the synaptic, but there are some libraries that can be marked to be install , i have to add some repositories, i think , but i don't know which ones????
[07:28] <goldfish> K_Dallas: Is slack good, i just downloaded the 10.1 iso's gonna try it next week.
[07:28] <BurgerMann> mpm, Quanta+ that is...
[07:28] <K_Dallas> i loved it when i was using it then i discovered debian ;)
[07:28] <refuze2looze> K_Dallas: i used to use suse 9.2 pro. ubuntu is the best tho
[07:28] <goldfish> hmmmm
[07:28] <K_Dallas> the last suse i used was 9.2 pro
[07:28] <refuze2looze> goldfish: yeah slack is good. it's fast
[07:28] <mpm> surman: md5s are on the dl pages, IE http://releases.ubuntu.com/hoary/
[07:29] <K_Dallas> in my experience debian has been the fastest on my system then fedora and then slackware. mandrake and suse the slowest
[07:29] <mpm> BurgerMann: thanks
[07:29] <goldfish> refuze2looze: Cool, that's what I'm looking for, for my laptop, something fast.
[07:29] <K_Dallas> but i have heard suse 9.3 has gained some speed
[07:29] <refuze2looze> goldfish: ubuntu is also fast though
[07:29] <K_Dallas> it is indeed
[07:29] <refuze2looze> K_Dallas: debian and fedora faster than slack? i'm surprised..
[07:30] <goldfish> yeah i have ubuntu on my laptop right now
[07:30] <refuze2looze> suse 9.2 was slow
[07:30] <K_Dallas> well i am on a crappy hardware :)
[07:30] <refuze2looze> the pro came with some good packages though
[07:30] <batma8> ok..im at ubuntuguide, and i see how to install stuff...but where the hell is the dos lookin window that i put commands into :)
[07:30] <goldfish> batma8: hehe
[07:30] <goldfish> batma8: called a terminal.
[07:30] <batma8> :)
[07:30] <batma8> ok
[07:30] <batma8> all i needed
[07:30] <batma8> thanks bro
[07:30] <Ali_Baba> :)
[07:30] <goldfish> no problem
[07:30] <batma8> im a dork
[07:30] <goldfish> nah
[07:30] <batma8> a dumb dork tho
[07:30] <K_Dallas> refuze2looze, i did not perform a real speed test so i could be really off but debian is definitely the fastest i have used
[07:30] <batma8> windows has warped my little fragile mind
[07:30] <goldfish> :)
[07:31] <Ali_Baba> just a newbie you are :)
[07:31] <K_Dallas> :)
[07:31] <goldfish> you have to start somewhere
[07:31] <refuze2looze> goldfish: if you're really in need for more speed, try using xfce instead of gnome or even fluxbox
[07:31] <batma8> i want to get good with this..its already kickin the hell out of my windows system
[07:31] <goldfish> refuze2looze: I am running xfce atm.
[07:31] <K_Dallas> ok guys, it was nice chatting with you. have a great weekend and see you in a few hours ;)
[07:31] <BurgerMann> mpm, for opensource CMS I think mambo should do
[07:31] <goldfish> batma8: Cool.
[07:31] <refuze2looze> goldfish: and it's still running too slow?
[07:32] <goldfish> well it's not slow
[07:32] <refuze2looze> oh
[07:32] <refuze2looze> hehe
[07:32] <goldfish> just looking for something faster :)
[07:32] <goldfish> If it exists.