[00:02] <tomreyn> gbellinoz: i don't see any, but you'll have to /want to reinstall to do FDE.
[00:02] <katamo> gbellinoz your biggest hiccups w/ FDE is going to boil down to your Proprietary KMS Graphics modules and whether they break. Personally outside of that I've seen little issue. Curious for nosferatuman 's opinion
[00:03] <gbellinoz> katamo: That's interesting... so the modules which want to load immediately, before the OS has a chance to ask for the decrypt password?
[00:03] <nosferatuman> thats exactly it
[00:03] <katamo> gbellinoz it *shouldnt* be an issue and usually isnt, but as professional support thats where I see the issues arise *if* they do
[00:04] <katamo> its always been correctable IMO but patience is not always readily available when issues come up
[00:04] <tomreyn> you can buy intel or amd gpu's if you want things to work out of the box
[00:05]  * katamo personally uses dmcrypt due to default ubuntu installer support
[00:05] <katamo> tomreyn +1
[00:05] <gbellinoz> I guess my intent is to simplify my setup.  Using encfs results in dirs that shouldn't be backed up, etc.
[00:07] <nosferatuman> it is more simple
[00:09] <tomreyn> here's a way to shoot yourself in the foot in case you don't want to reinstall: https://github.com/johndoe31415/luksipc
[00:13] <katamo> tomreyn or https://gitlab.com/cryptsetup/cryptsetup/blob/master/man/cryptsetup-reencrypt.8 ???
[00:13] <tomreyn> actually cryptsetup-reencrypt is the better option now,
[00:13] <tomreyn> right
[00:13] <tomreyn> i only learnt about it now ;)
[00:14] <katamo> yep yep
[00:14] <nacc> texla: i'm sorry, i don't follow that last comment
[00:15] <bonhoeffer> i’ve got python troubles — is there a way to re-install python to the original image?
[00:16] <nacc> bonhoeffer: welcome back; you don't need python, you need python3.6, afaict? What did you to your system to get into that state?
[00:16] <kk4ewt> bonhoeffer,  like reinstall
[00:16] <nacc> bonhoeffer: what version of ubuntu, etc. as well
[00:17] <bonhoeffer> nacc: i’ll take any python — 18.04 — i had three pythons installed so i tried to remove all of them to include deleting their directories
[00:17] <nacc> bonhoeffer: ... what? you should python and python3
[00:17] <nacc> bonhoeffer: did you install some other python from source?
[00:17] <bonhoeffer> i still havce /usr/bin/python
[00:17] <bonhoeffer> I don’t remember — this was a shared server
[00:17] <nacc> bonhoeffer: ok, so let's be specific. python is both a language and specific interpreter (for python2)
[00:17] <nacc> bonhoeffer: so you had 3 python2 interpreters?
[00:18] <bonhoeffer> sorry — I had python3.5 python 3.6 and python3.7
[00:18] <nacc> bonhoeffer: on 18.04?
[00:18] <nacc> bonhoeffer: neither 3.5 nor 3.7 are official
[00:18] <bonhoeffer> 18.04.1
[00:19] <nacc> bonhoeffer: where did you get those versions from?
[00:19] <bonhoeffer> at the risk of being banned forever — https://gist.github.com/tbbooher/95d9ff23ce1fa771b4584198cbb2a87a
[00:19] <bonhoeffer> at the bottom shows what i did
[00:19] <bonhoeffer> <— yes, terrible
[00:19] <bonhoeffer> i should know better
[00:20] <nacc> bonhoeffer: you are probably going to need to reinstall your system at some point
[00:20] <nacc> you force removed basically random system paths
[00:20] <bonhoeffer> i was going to remove all that i did before and try to set up python fresh
[00:20] <bonhoeffer> yeah
[00:21] <bonhoeffer> since I know what i removed, I could re-install from another image enough to get apt working again
[00:21] <nacc> bonhoeffer: also, your last comment has not output
[00:21] <tomreyn> why isn't resintalling a good option?
[00:21] <nacc> bonhoeffer: so it's basically not helpful to anyone trying to help
[00:21] <nacc> bonhoeffer: and yes, i'd recommend reinstalling
[00:21] <gbellinoz> tomreyn: katamo good tips, thanks.  Off to go do some reading.
[00:22] <texla> nacc, After install Ubuntu 18.04 I went to Ubuntu ask and got info on how to activate numlockx at login..It is accept numbers from the numlock pad to login but after that I have to use numbers from the top of the keyboard as the numlock pad is dead If I just enter xev and press a nuumber from the numlock pad it only spaces the number
[00:22] <gbellinoz> ^ katamo :
[00:22] <gbellinoz> ^ katamo:  dammit
[00:23] <katamo> gbellinoz on the numlock issue, what model device are you working on? (sry if i missed that detail)
[00:23] <gbellinoz> katamo: wasn't me
[00:24]  * katamo facepalm
[00:24] <texla> katamo, Ubuntu 18.04
[00:24] <bonhoeffer> nacc: ok
[00:24] <nosferatuman> what kind of keyboard
[00:24] <nacc> texla: if you remove numlockx, does it work again
[00:24] <katamo> texla device type/make/model?
[00:25] <gbellinoz> Wow cryptsetup-reencrypt man page scares me with its bizarre example: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/nSbVkTol/
[00:25] <nacc> texla: are you by any chance changing keyboard layouts?
[00:25] <texla> katamo, system  kudo pro laptop
[00:26] <nosferatuman> probably a pci device?
[00:27] <texla> nacc, The only layout I have found are in my Kubuntu install
[00:27] <nacc> texla: that's not exactly what i'm asked. Have you changed the keyboard layout at all?
[00:28] <nacc> texla: read comment 19 at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1247668
[00:29] <spooky> anyone here use gnome jessie but my screen (after reboot) has suddenly become fuzzy. anyone know why? how to fix?
[00:29] <texla> nacc, The only set I have found is listed as unchanged I left that way
[00:29] <tomreyn> spooky: what's "gnome jessie"?
[00:30] <nosferatuman> maybe debian jessie?
[00:30] <nosferatuman> with gnome?
[00:30] <nacc> texla: i see
[00:30] <spooky> yes i think so. i thought it was part of ubuntu (sorry)
[00:30] <spooky> anyone screen is fuzzy always and reboot only makes it worse. checked all wires and nothing is lose
[00:30] <spooky> any ideas?
[00:31] <nacc> spooky: you are using debian
[00:31] <tomreyn> !debian | spooky
[00:31] <nacc> spooky: please ask debian support
[00:31] <spooky> okay will do
[00:31] <nacc> texla: specifically in that, it should help indicate if you are using xev correctly, etc.
[00:32] <nacc> texla: what did you mean before about 'spaces the number'?
[00:40] <texla> nacc, When a number is hit it move just as if you hit the space bar
[00:43] <bonhoeffer> is there a way to see when i typed a commmand in history
[00:45] <tomreyn> bonhoeffer: i'll answer this once you answered my earlier question: why isn't reinstalling a good option?
[00:45] <bonhoeffer> it is
[00:46] <bonhoeffer> i’m working that
[00:46] <tomreyn> your answer is: not by default, no.
[00:46] <bonhoeffer> ok
[00:47] <tomreyn> if you're wondering abotu when you installed or removed  which packages, though, there are timestamped logs for this at /var/log/apt
[00:47] <TheBloke> Is there a way I can find out the compilation options used for a given Ubuntu package/library?  Specifically I'd like to know the ./configure options used to build ncurses (package ncurses-bin)
[00:50] <nosferatuman> does packages.ubuntu.com include that info? I dont know
[00:50] <TheBloke> I can't see it
[00:51] <lotuspsychje> TheBloke: we advice to use the packages of the official ubuntu repos, instead of compiling
[00:51] <rfm> TheBloke, I don't actually know, but the first thing I would do is get the source package and look in the debian/rules build script...
[00:53] <TheBloke> rfm: thanks I'm trying that now. I  thought it might all be in a source code repository or something.  I'll check the source package
[00:53] <TheBloke> lotuspsychje: yeah this isn't for overwriting packages on Ubuntu itself
[00:55] <lotuspsychje> TheBloke: whats your real endgoal exactly?
[00:56] <TheBloke> Fixing an ncurses terminal display problem on Solaris :)  On a program that works fine on Linux, compiles fine on Solaris, but the terminal display is messed up when displaying UTF-8 widechars.   Both with the provided NCurses 6.0 in Solaris, and my own compiled NCurses 6.1.   It's a long shot, but I'm checking how ncurses is compiled on Ubuntu (where I know the given programme works), just to see if it needs some special ./configure option.
[00:57] <lotuspsychje> TheBloke: this is ubuntu support here mate
[00:57] <TheBloke> And I asked an Ubuntu-related question, surely?
[00:57] <tomreyn> it's maybe more suitable in #ubuntu-devel
[00:57] <tomreyn> have a look at https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ncurses/tree/?h=applied/ubuntu/bionic-updates
[00:58] <tomreyn> build log is at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ncurses/6.1-1ubuntu1.18.04/+build/14932384/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-bionic-amd64.ncurses_6.1-1ubuntu1.18.04_BUILDING.txt.gz
[00:59] <TheBloke> awesome tomreyn, thanks.  That's exactly what I was hoping for.
[00:59] <tomreyn> welcome
[01:01] <bonhoeffer> tomreyn: thanks for the logging info
[01:08] <kaddi> hi, is there a PPA for kernel 4.18 for 18.04?
[01:08] <kaddi> (or higher)
[01:08] <katamo> kaddi no, it has to be installed manually. otherwise the latest kernel you can get is from the hwe-edge package
[01:09]  * katamo hasnt considered 3rd party for safety reasons
[01:10] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | kaddi
[01:12] <tomreyn> there is no HWE stack for 18.04, yet, so it'll be either mainline or some ppa
[01:13] <kaddi> how buggy is the mainline going to be? I'm not looking to fix one issue by creating 5 new ones ;)
[01:13] <tomreyn> not buggier than a random ppa
[01:13] <tomreyn> usually they work fine
[01:14] <kaddi> ok, that's good to know. :)
[01:14] <lotuspsychje> kaddi: is there a reason specific you are going to install a higher kernel?
[01:14] <katamo> tomreyn good point, i didnt look close enough at the question :/ and ditto. What is use case kaddi ?
[01:14] <kaddi> yeah, I have a X1 and sleep doesn't work. Apparently it's only supported with 4.18rc2 or newer
[01:15] <kaddi> lenovo x1 that is
[01:15] <lotuspsychje> kaddi: can you define 'doesnt work' please
[01:16] <kaddi> it just doesn't go to sleep at all. This (according to my google research) is due to the fact that lenovo switched from supplying the option to do s3 sleep to the new 'active sleep' (for windows) s0i3
[01:16] <kaddi> that sleep mode is not recognized correctly in current kernels
[01:16] <lotuspsychje> kaddi: have you tried acpi options?
[01:16] <kaddi> unfortunately also those sleep mode are apparently exclusive so that lenovo can't (or won't) supply a bios that offers both
[01:17] <kaddi> lotuspsychje: I had a look at some of the solutions offered online, but mostly the solutions offered seemed to be for arch and they don't compile/work on my install
[01:17] <kaddi> If you have instructions for ubuntu, I'd be happy to try them
[01:17] <kaddi> I'm really just trying to get sleep to work
[01:18] <lotuspsychje> kaddi: here the basic bootoptions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[01:19] <lotuspsychje> kaddi: also interesting for us to debug, is your syslog output at the time of your hibernate
[01:19] <ForDummies> I'm having a problem with ubuntu-bug where Launchpad fails with "something went wrong" right after saysing it's going to log me in.  Am I the only one?
[01:20] <lotuspsychje> ForDummies: do you have a launchpad account?
[01:21] <texla> lc
[01:21] <ForDummies> I think so.  I've looked at bugs many times.
[01:21] <tomreyn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1756105
[01:21] <tomreyn> kaddi: ^
[01:21] <lotuspsychje> ForDummies: wich package did you bug to?
[01:22] <ForDummies> just for testing (because I'm on a different machine) I named vim-gnome
[01:22] <kaddi> tomreyn: just to make sure I understand: I run the command now and then go to sleep? Or put it to sleep, wake it and then run the comand?
[01:23] <ForDummies> lotuspsychje originally it was vim-nox.
[01:23] <lotuspsychje> ForDummies: ubuntu-bug vim-gnome should work allright yeah
[01:23] <tomreyn> kaddi: which command do you mean? the apport-collect one? this is just for the person who opened the bug report. you are welcome to put it to sleep, wake it up and then run: ubuntu-bug linux
[01:23] <ForDummies> Ilotuspsychje I've actually tracked down the actual problem (it was my aliases), but now I'm wondering what's up with ubuntu-bug
[01:23] <lotuspsychje> ForDummies: so its launchpad giving you that error after bug trying to report?
[01:24] <tomreyn> kaddi: the reason i pointed you to this bug report is that the firth comment disucsses a partial workaround.
[01:24] <ForDummies> lotuspsychje yes, "Sorry, something went wrong in Launchpad."
[01:24] <kaddi> tomreyn: I'll try that now :) Thanks.
[01:25] <kaddi> Could you tell me how to do this: "please pass `acpi.ec_no_wakeup=1` on the Linux command line to reduce the power consumption." Do I need to launch grub recovery for that?
[01:25] <ForDummies> lotuspsychje it hasn't even gotten to asking what went wrong, or collected data on the system.
[01:25] <kaddi> and then type it in manually?
[01:25] <lotuspsychje> ForDummies: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1724316
[01:25] <lotuspsychje> kaddi: read that bootoptions url, it describes howto
[01:26] <kaddi> lotuspsychje: I read it, I run kubuntu so I don't have boot repair.. andthe manual config links to grub2 tutorial which then makes no reference of boot options
[01:27] <ForDummies> lotuspsychje I just logged into Launchpad, and got past the spot where ubuntu bug reported the problem.
[01:28] <ForDummies> Lotuspsychje what do I do with this.  I'm pretty sure ubuntu-bug ubuntu-bug is going to have the same problem.
[01:29] <lotuspsychje> ForDummies: yes, login to launchpad first, then ubuntu-bug after is a nice procedure
[01:29] <ForDummies> lotuspsychje: I'll try it.
[01:29] <tomreyn> kaddi: this is the right how-to for temporarily booting with different / additional linux options  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting#Editing_the_GRUB_2_Menu_During_Boot
[01:29] <lotuspsychje> ForDummies: i suspect this has nothing to do with ubuntu-bug, but launchpad login problem
[01:30] <kaddi> thanks @tomreyn :)
[01:31] <bonhoeffer> hey — nacc  — i restored to a day ago — how do i responsibly remove my python 3.7
[01:31] <tomreyn> kaddi: what you'd need to do is to add the option you quoted to the 'linux' line, after "quiet" and "splash"
[01:32] <ForDummies> lotuspsychje I logged in on Chrome (where Launchpad was trying to log in), and tried "ubuntu-bug apport" but got exactly the same problem.
[01:33] <lotuspsychje> ForDummies: is apport the package you are trying to bug?
[01:33] <lotuspsychje> ForDummies: try to change your default browser to firefox, and try there as a test?
[01:34] <kaddi> thanks @tomreyn @lotuspsychje I'll put the laptop to 'sleep' and 'wake' it. Then I'll run ubuntu-bug linux. Then I'll reboot and try to modify the kernel options.. then I'll be back.. Could take a while ;)
[01:34] <lotuspsychje> kaddi: perhaps use the same bug, tomreyn has found for you?
[01:34] <lotuspsychje> kaddi: this avoids double bugs
[01:34] <ForDummies> lotuspsychje Oops.  I have too many windows up.  Launchpad was using chrome, and when I tried to log in there, it did not work.  It's starting to look like a launchpad/chrome problem.
[01:35] <ForDummies> lotuspsychje, no the error message is different
[01:36] <ForDummies> lotuspsychje I may be able to work around this by changing my default browser to firefox, then maybe launchpad will let me report a bug.
[01:36] <lotuspsychje> ForDummies: yes try a different browser, but i suspect its your launchpad account going faulty
[01:37] <tomreyn> kaddi: if you instead (or additionally) want to try a mainline kernel, you can download, make executable and run this script: wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tomreyn/scripts/master/wget_kernel_mainline.sh; chmod +x wget_kernel_mainline.sh; ./wget_kernel_mainline.sh v4.18.5
[01:37] <tomreyn> lotuspsychje: it'd clutter log files, a duplicate is actually better there IMO
[01:38] <tomreyn> we can always link duplicate bug reports to one another
[01:38] <ForDummies> lotuspsychje I can log into Launchpad on Firefox but on on Chrome.  I'll try to get that reported .  Thanks for getting me to look at this a bit more carefully.  Now I have action I can take.....  later tonight problably.  Thanks.
[01:41] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: allrighty
[01:56] <kaddi> is there a chance I could get my nick myrti back? I was careless and let it expire a year ago. Someone called myrtti registered it, but he's never actually used it
[01:56] <kaddi> he hasn't been online in a while either
[01:57] <kaddi> and sorry
[01:57] <kaddi> that's the completley wrong channel
[01:57] <kaddi> XD
[01:59] <kaddi> what I meant ot say is: I've added the command to grub, but I'm not sure how to tell if it worked?
[01:59] <kaddi> and I've added the dbeug logs here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1790753
[02:00] <eddievonscraper> why does sudo apt install nvidia-375 instead install 384.130 ? how can i pick my choice of driver version
[02:02] <lotuspsychje> eddievonscraper: ubuntu-drivers list to see wich drivers are available for your system
[02:04] <eddievonscraper> those are the same 3 that are available in the 'additional drivers' tab
[02:06] <lotuspsychje> eddievonscraper: correct, so wich 3 are listed?
[02:06] <eddievonscraper> 304 340 384
[02:06] <eddievonscraper> i used to have a newer driver than 340, but updating to 384 broke something.  i was hoping to go back 1 version, not all way back to 340
[02:07] <lotuspsychje> eddievonscraper: wich graphics card chipset do you have?
[02:07] <eddievonscraper> gtx560ti
[02:08] <lotuspsychje> eddievonscraper: ok, its good to tryout the driver that works best for your system
[02:08] <lotuspsychje> eddievonscraper: to uninstall: sudo apt purge nvidia* to fallback to nouveau
[02:09] <lotuspsychje> eddievonscraper: then try again the driver you want to test
[02:09] <eddievonscraper> well it was in between 340 and 384, but i cant seem to find/install it
[02:10] <lotuspsychje> eddievonscraper: drivers do not update the same as package, you need to test them individually
[02:10] <lotuspsychje> eddievonscraper: feel free to share us a hastebin of the output, when installing a driver
[02:13] <Bashing-om> eddievonscraper: Nvidia recommends the 390 version driver for that card: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us .
[02:15] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: weird ubuntu does not suggest it right?
[02:17] <eddievonscraper> 16.04 only offers upto 384 in additional drivers tab
[02:19] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: I would expect that it would ( sudo ubuntu-drivers list ) . //. Not sure what nvidia is doing now-a-days. do ' apt list nvidia-375 ' . then see: apt list nvidia-driver-390 . 18.04 nvidia driver loads a ton more packages now also .
[02:20] <eddievonscraper> 18.04 with 390 and system hangs after reboot.  16.04 with 384 powermizer stuck on lowest level 50mhz graphics clock.  16.04 with 340 or 304 works fine.  maybe theres someting wrong with my video card?
[02:20] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-driver-390 xenial
[02:21] <eddievonscraper> i have a gtx NON TI that works fine with 384 and 390 so idk
[02:21] <eddievonscraper> gtx 560
[02:22] <Bashing-om> eddievonscraper: lemme verify that the 390 driver for xenial is in our trusted PPA .
[02:22] <eddievonscraper> im going to swap the 2 cards and see what happens
[02:22] <eddievonscraper> ill post back soon
[02:24] <Bashing-om> eddievonscraper: Yeah the 390 driver is there : https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .
[02:26] <eddievonscraper> ok ill try it thx bashin
[04:03] <eddievonscraper> bashing-om: that ppa 390.87 seems to work fine with 16.04
[04:04] <eddievonscraper> wonder why 390 hangs my system with 18.04
[04:08] <Speeder39> Hello
[04:09] <Speeder39> I am new to ubuntu
[04:09] <Aaron> and?
[04:09] <Bashing-om> eddievonscraper: I run thge nouveau driver in 18.04 - not nuch I can check. Any hints in ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ; cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' ?
[04:09] <cim209> Speeder39, welcome to the club
[04:09] <Speeder39> Thankd
[04:10] <Speeder39> I installed on older computer i7 with 6gb ram
[04:11] <cim209> i installed ubuntu mate on this old 2007 imac
[04:11] <hittop> I just used wubi to install Ubuntu 18.04 on my Surface Book that uses UEFI. During the installation, it said grub failed to installed. Then after I restart, I can no longer log back into Windows. I'm now stuck with the grub console.
[04:11] <Speeder39> :(
[04:11] <hittop> I've done some readings and tried to boot-repair but without much hope. Here's the link on the report, I hope some expert can shed some lights.
[04:11] <hittop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MBgNn5YZSS/
[04:11] <Speeder39> I instp
[04:12] <Speeder39> Installed on Toshiba qosimo 18inch laptio
[04:12] <Speeder39> 18 inch laptop wiping windows 7
[04:13] <Speeder39> are you guys in the usa?
[04:13] <cim209> i am
[04:14] <nacc> bonhoeffer: where did it come from?
[04:15] <nacc> bonhoeffer: the python 3.7, that is?
[04:16] <eddievonscraper> bashing-om: im going to try that ppa with 1804. barring that, ill check the log you suggested, thanks
[04:17] <Bashing-om> eddievonscraper: :) .. we try to help .
[04:19] <madLyfe> possible to run the dban gui in terminal?
[04:20] <madLyfe> it looks like this guy is running it in a terminal: https://askubuntu.com/questions/749974/gui-tool-to-securely-overwrite-whole-hard-drive if you scroll down a bit on the page there is a screenshot of it.
[04:30] <nacc> madLyfe: the two screenshots are clearly cited as GDiskDump and nwipe.
[04:30] <madLyfe> ya nwipe is what i mean
[04:31] <nacc> madLyfe: ... nwipe is a terminal application
[04:31] <madLyfe> i installed it just fine but just running nwipe i just get a return prompt. man/help doesnt say anything like that.
[04:31] <madLyfe> to get the nwipe gui running in terminal.
[04:32] <nacc> madLyfe: did you run it with sudo?
[04:32] <nacc> madLyfe: it needs to be run as root
[04:32] <nacc> madLyfe: doing so on 18.04 here shows the menu properly.
[04:33] <madLyfe> FML. im sorry.
[04:33] <nacc> madLyfe: it's ok, i got a bunch of errors when running it as a regular user about permissions
[04:37] <quiltbitch> Ubuntu 18.04 keeps crashing on start up :/
[04:37] <quiltbitch> I can only boot it up after going on safe-mode
[04:37] <quiltbitch> and keep hitting resume, resume
[04:37] <quiltbitch> advice? :/
[04:43] <eddievonscraper> bashing-om: that ppa you showed me works great 390 and 18.04 thanks again
[04:49] <guiverc_d> quiltbitch, i don't know what you mean by 'safe' mode, can't find anything online with regards safe mode - and can't picture the 'resume' (online serach only pulls up post-suspend) - do you mean recovery mode? and does resume relate to a suspended machine and trouble waking it?, is it a desktop, server?
[04:50] <nacc> guiverc_d: i believe you can boot into 'recovery' mode and then exit it from it to resume booting.
[04:50] <nacc> guiverc_d: that's what i'd guess quiltbitch meant.
[04:51] <guiverc_d> thanks nacc, I don't use recovery mode very often thankfully :)
[04:51] <nacc> guiverc_d: yep :)
[04:51] <nacc> quiltbitch: can you define 'crash'?
[04:51] <nacc> quiltbitch: as in, what exactly happens
[04:52] <quiltbitch> nacc, when ubuntu boots up has these dots
[04:52] <quiltbitch> well they freeze
[04:53] <quiltbitch> and never continue
[04:53] <quiltbitch> sometimes the screen never turns on either during boot up
[04:53] <quiltbitch> this is usually after I shut down during the first failed boot up
[04:53] <nacc> quiltbitch: someone earlier maybe suggested booting without quiet and splash, so you get as much output as possible?
[04:53] <nacc> quiltbitch: i think that was for you, at least, did you try something like that?
[04:54] <quiltbitch> no, I have to modify grub?
[04:55] <nacc> yeah, from the menu, hit 'e' on the entry, and remove the 'quiet' and 'splash' bits on the linux line
[04:55] <nacc> quiltbitch: i need to step away, sorry; hopefully someone else can help
[04:55] <quiltbitch> thanks!
[04:56] <guiverc_d> I'd also suggest trying ' nomodeset ' on that line on a try to see if you get a gui.. but first I'd do as nacc was suggesting, remove 'quiet splash' (quiet hides messages, splash shows the graphic instead of messages - you have a problem so you want to see the messages - why you remove them)  hit <F10> to have it boot. change affects that boot only
[04:57] <guiverc_d> fyi: first I'd try without adding the nomodeset  (to get clues on what is the problem, you'd be expecting it to stop as before, but you'll see the last thing that worked, and maybe the thing it was trying to do where it gets stuck..
[05:02] <quiltbitch> removed from GRUB the quiet and splash and now the screen remains black
[05:03] <quiltbitch> help?
[05:04] <guiverc_d> quiltbitch, what ubuntu are you using?
[05:04] <quiltbitch> 18.04
[05:05] <guiverc_d> is it a clean install? or did you do something (add/change things) to cause this quiltbitch ?
[05:06] <quiltbitch> clean install
[05:06] <quiltbitch> laptop g5 5587
[05:06] <CyberHacker> quiltbitch, when you temove quiet and splash add 'nomodeset' like guiverc_d suggest
[05:06] <quiltbitch> I didn't add anything
[05:06] <quiltbitch> I just removed them
[05:07] <guiverc_d> g5 cpu? or is that part of the mode... I'd also try the ' nomodeset ' (with quiet & splash removed as well) next .. - I didn't expect 'black' only..
[05:07] <quiltbitch> i5
[05:07] <guiverc_d> s/mode/model/
[05:08] <quiltbitch> guiverc_d are the two spaces after ro important?
[05:09] <quiltbitch> it says can't find command esetparams with nomodset
[05:09] <guiverc_d> quiltbitch, one space or many is okay, i use extra spaces just to stress a space..
[05:11] <quiltbitch> nvm I hit e one too many times. Now I tried to boot up again with nomodeset and again black screen
[05:11] <quiltbitch> nvm it booted up, after flashing the screen with the command line
[05:21] <guiverc_d> quiltbitch, you have video module (driver) issues i'm betting, `sudo lshw -C video` will list hardware (video class) where you could look online for help with your hardware, or ask here (I'm ill-equipped to help sorry with video), but if pastebin your hardware (results for prior command) I can do a search for you... the `nomodeset` is a temporary 'fix' & not ideal..
[06:08] <Goop> I want to upload music from my Ubuntu desktop to my iPhone, so I can play it using Apple's native song player. How would I go about doing that?
[06:09] <AtuM> Goop, as far as i know, you need to use apple's cloud services for that..
[06:18] <hateball> !iphone | Goop
[06:18] <hateball> no idea how up to date that is, I have no apple devices
[06:20] <lotus|NUC> Goop: clementine has also nice support for sync to apple devices
[06:54] <ikonia>  /win 1
[06:54] <ikonia> oops
[07:23] <CoolerZ> i have a weird situation happening where an application is reporting that it can't find ANDROID_HOME
[07:23] <CoolerZ> even though it is set
[07:24] <CoolerZ> $ echo $ANDROID_HOME
[07:24] <CoolerZ>  /home/user/Android/Sdk
[07:24] <CoolerZ> Android Studio project detected
[07:24] <CoolerZ> (node:2407) UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: CordovaError: Failed to find 'ANDROID_HOME' environment variable. Try setting it manually.
[07:24] <CoolerZ> Failed to find 'android' command in your 'PATH'. Try update your 'PATH' to include path to valid SDK directory.
[07:26] <CoolerZ> i have this line at the end of my .bashrc file
[07:26] <CoolerZ> export ANDROID_HOME="/home/user/Android/Sdk"
[07:26] <CoolerZ> do i need to set ANDROID_HOME in /etc/environment as well?
[07:27] <CoolerZ> why is the app failing to detect the environment variable?
[07:35] <nakulcg>  how and where I can ask if I want an official package in ubuntu bionic repo to be updated to the latest version?
[07:36] <ducasse> !sru | nakulcg
[07:37] <ducasse> nakulcg: there needs to be good reasons for this to happen, though
[07:38] <zetheroo> Chrome seems to be starting on boot/login automatically and it always crashes when doing so. Where can I disable Chrome from automatically starting on boot/login?
[07:38] <nakulcg> Thanks, I would like the jetty9 package on Ubuntu bionic to be updated, since it is on 9.2 (which was on an older java version) and that is a very old version, and 9.4.x are the latest which run on latest Java
[07:40] <Aaron> then update it nakulcg
[07:40] <Aaron> and send it to the maintainer
[07:41] <nakulcg> Thanks AAron
[08:10] <CoolerZ> someone please help
[08:10] <CoolerZ> do applications use different set of environment variables compared to what you get when you do echo $ENVIRONMENT_VARIABLE  in the terminal?
[08:11] <CoolerZ> because i can do echo $ANDROID_HOME and it is displayed
[08:11] <CoolerZ> but an app is not able to find it
[08:12] <TJ-> CoolerZ: yes, env-vars are per-shell. If that is set in the .bashrc and you've logged in since adding it, all shells/applications launched in the current session should see it
[08:13] <CoolerZ> TJ-, right
[08:14] <CoolerZ> but for some reason its not doing that
[08:17] <CoolerZ> TJ-, apparently it works after adding ANDROID_HOME to /etc/environment
[08:39] <texla> ubuntu 18.04 ubuntu de during boot the numlock light and pad is active and the login screen works..then the numlock light blinks off and back on but the pad buttons are dead..Switch to cinnamon de and all button and lights work as expected
[08:51] <hateball> texla: that's probably something you can set in gnome somewhere
[08:52] <hateball> in kde plasma you can specify if to turn on/off/untouched, I assume gnome has something similar in their keyboard settings
[09:56] <fishcooker> is it possible to move the cursor if my laptop's touchpad is broken without adding extra peripheral?
[09:56] <EriC^^> fishcooker: xdotool
[09:57] <EriC^^> fishcooker: look into the accessibility options, there might be a keyboard based cursor movement
[09:57] <EriC^^> fishcooker: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/mouse-mousekeys.html.en
[10:18] <fishcooker> digging xdotool, thanks
[10:27] <Triffid_Hunter> fishcooker: I made a script that adds a virtual mouse via uinput - http://github.com/triffid/automash - if you want another route
[10:28] <Triffid_Hunter> basically it turns buttonhold on spare buttons on my mouse into something like 2000 clicks per second
[10:33] <fishcooker> nice pointer Eric xdotool works ... Triffid_Hunter: noted, just wonder if i can do fake movement using translation using vi style button movement
[10:34] <fishcooker> mouseless mode ON
[10:34] <fishcooker> on gui session
[10:41] <fishcooker> Triffid_Hunter: http://github.com/triffid/automash cool
[11:10] <Mia> Hello channel
[11:10] <Mia> I found this https://github.com/cspeterson/dotfiles/blob/master/.bin/instagif --- how shouldş I execute this?
[11:10] <Mia> After putting this into a file (instagif) I've chmod +x 'd the file
[11:11] <Mia> but when I run this IO get ": No such file or directory"
[11:11] <Mia> Am I missing an important point
[11:12] <auronandace> Mia: you'd need to ask the maintainer of that script
[11:12] <Mia> auronandace, I feel like I'm making a mistake at the base level
[11:13] <Mia> I was googling "how to make a file executable" a few minutes ago
[11:14] <auronandace> Mia: assuming you are in the same directory as the file you want to execute you just run it: ./nameofscript
[11:15] <Mia> that's what I do auronandace
[11:15] <Mia> do I have to install anything before this? like, I've tried to modify the "bash" part of the file (the beginning)
[11:15] <blackflow> Mia: did you install the prerequisites listed in the script? namely bc, ffmpeg and wget?
[11:15] <Mia> I get similar errors so maybe there's someting wrong with my bash thing
[11:16] <Mia> Yes they're installed BlackDex
[11:16] <Mia> blackflow, (sorry BlackDex )
[11:17] <blackflow> Mia: run with -x (or add set -x below  set -e in the script) and look where exactly during the execution it throws the error
[11:17] <Mia> okay, doing it now
[11:18] <Mia> same error, nothing changes blackflow
[11:19] <blackflow> Mia: then run it from bash directly   `bash instagif`   while being in the same directory with it
[11:19] <Mia> when I echo "step one" before both (-e and -x) I still get the same error, nothing is echoed
[11:20] <Mia> okay
[11:20] <blackflow> and that's weird, that env invocation of bash should work
[11:20] <Mia> when I run it with bash, it works noıw
[11:20] <Mia> *now
[11:20] <Mia> So what's the problem here, I can ofc. execute with this bash but, why isn't it working
[11:21] <blackflow> Mia: sounds like there's no bash in your env. which ubuntu is this?
[11:21] <Mia> 14.04
[11:21] <blackflow> or /usr/bin/env is not there
[11:21] <blackflow> run that from teh command line    /usr/bin/env bash       do you get a new prompt, no error?   exit should exit it back to where you were
[11:21] <zetheroo> Chrome seems to be starting on boot/login automatically and it always crashes when doing so. Where can I disable Chrome from automatically starting on boot/login?
[11:23] <JimBuntu> zetheroo, Depending on your version... In the Dash search, type startup, click on the 'Startup Applications' and uncheck Chrome, if it's present
[11:23] <Mia> when I do /usr/bin/env bash nothing happens
[11:23] <Mia> no errors, just waits for half second, thne everything's the same
[11:23] <blackflow> Mia: yeah it started a new shell.   if you now type exit, you'll get the prompt, nothing else, which is actually BACK one level up.
[11:24] <blackflow> Mia: ps auxf  should show you the tree of shells that occur
[11:24] <blackflow> or in other words, when you type `bash`  you get to a new prompt which is actually a shell spawned from your previous shell, it's just not immediately visible.  same thing happens with that env
[11:25] <Mia> ah okay
[11:25] <Mia> so it works? I mean, env should be there in this case, right ?
[11:25] <Mia> then why isn't the #!/usr/bin/env bash working
[11:26] <Helenah> Is there an up-to-date guide for Ubuntu's version of tmux?
[11:27] <blackflow> at this point I have no idea. sounds weird that it works from command line but not when exec'd. unless something is seriously messed up with kernel's detection of shebangs.
[11:27] <blackflow> Mia: ^^^
[11:27] <Mia> :/
[11:27] <Mia> okay, thanks
[11:28] <Mia> I'm not root, does this matter blackflow
[11:28] <Helenah> Come on guys, I've asked in 3 support channels now, and nobody knows the answer?
[11:28] <blackflow> nope. but thinking about it now, it's possible there's a difference in PATH between login and noninteractive shell
[11:29] <blackflow> Mia: ^^^
[11:29] <Mia> I don2t even know what a noninteractive shell is
[11:29] <blackflow> Mia: in other words, difference in PATH set by   .bashrc and .profile
[11:30] <BlackDex> np Mia ;)
[11:30] <blackflow> Mia: when you login,  .profile is exec'd which in turn should source .bashrc   . and starting subshells sources only .bashrc as they're not login shells.
[11:30] <Mia> Ah okay
[11:31] <Mia> so I'll start this as root and try
[11:31] <Mia> and see if this works
[11:31] <blackflow> Mia: there's also .bash_login   and .bash_profile that could exist, to mess up things
[11:31] <blackflow> Mia: of course, you can always change that shebang to #!/bin/bash directly
[11:31] <Mia> under /home/username I have .bash_history and .bash_logout
[11:32] <JimBuntu> run a `which bash` first, and ise that
[11:33] <JimBuntu> Helenah, I don't know how 'up to date' you are looking for, but there are a few good examples if you google with digitalocean as a keyword.
[11:37] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:02] <gbellinoz> This is OT but perhaps someone can steer me.  When I change the nameservers for a domain at my ISP where I registered that domain, what happens next?
[12:15] <tomreyn> gbellinoz: if you !register you can join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask there.
[12:16] <tomreyn> !register | gbellinoz
[12:19] <lotus|NUC> Helenah: man tmux ?
[12:25] <gloomy> Hey there
[12:25] <gloomy> I'm having trouble with brightness controls on a macbook pro
[12:26] <gloomy> The brightness controls (f1/f2) worked fine out of the box
[12:26] <lotus|NUC> gloomy: your ubuntu version please?
[12:26] <gloomy> Then I installed an applet supposed to give me controls in the top bar
[12:26] <gloomy> Ubuntu Budgie, latest version (bionic based)
[12:27] <gloomy> and the controls stopped working (both from the keyboard and from the applet)
[12:27] <gloomy> I removed the applet but it's still broken
[12:27] <lotus|NUC> gloomy: your ubuntu version please?
[12:28] <gloomy> Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS
[12:29] <lotus|NUC> gloomy: sorry ive skipped your line
[12:30] <lotus|NUC> gloomy: can you test this from gnome aswell as a test, ive installed 18.04 on a macbook recently, all worked perfect on my side
[12:31] <gloomy> Test what?
[12:31] <lotus|NUC> gloomy: ubuntu-desktop with gnome, lets say a liveusb
[12:31] <gloomy> It also worked for me until I installed that applet
[12:31] <lotus|NUC> gloomy: oh, how did you install that applet and from where?
[12:31] <gloomy> From the budgie applet menu
[12:32] <gloomy> https://github.com/serdarsen/budgie-advanced-brightness-controller
[12:32] <gloomy> Seems to be this package
[12:32] <lotus|NUC> gloomy: cant you undo what you installed?
[12:33] <gloomy> Yes, but the brightness controls are still broken
[12:34] <lotus|NUC> gloomy: you could try find the settings from dconf-editor perhaps
[12:34] <lotus|NUC> gloomy: my guess would be, purge that git applet and reboot?
[12:35] <gloomy> Hmm, doing xrandr --output DP-2 --brightness 0.1
[12:35] <gloomy> works
[12:36] <gloomy> So maybe it's just the keyboard shortcuts that got messed up
[12:36] <gloomy> lotus|NUC: What is dconf-editor?
[12:36] <XirAurelius> Hey Ben64 - I went and checked myself yesterday. You were correct about zero-writing a drive and I was wrong. Mea culpa.
[12:37] <lotus|NUC> !info dconf-tools | gloomy
[12:37] <lotus|NUC> gloomy: its a GUI for overall system settings and more
[12:38] <gloomy> nice, will play around a bit with that
[12:38] <lotus|NUC> gloomy: macbook works nicely with bionic doesnt it :p
[12:39] <gloomy> The fans are spinning like crazy but other than that it's pretty smooth :)
[12:39] <lotus|NUC> gloomy: try laptop-mode-tools for that maybe?
[12:57] <solsTiCe> hi. I have that bug that when I press alt+print screen, I am logout imediatly and then when I relogin, the screenshot is taken. the keybaord shortcut are the default. using wayland in 18.04
[13:07] <blackflow> solsTiCe: heh. well, there's a reason why Wayland is not yet default.
[13:17] <slipttees> Hi guys. I have shared volume and mounted using cifs without problems. But in lubuntu 18.04 mount not appears in my Desktop like USB for example.  Lubuntu 16.04 this mount work ful
[13:21] <norok2> hi all, is there a way to put the ubuntu 18.04 iso into a USB stick using the old method?
[13:21] <norok2> the hybrid iso won't work on my old asus eee pc 700
[13:22] <norok2> and I screwed it up bit when believing I could just dist-upgrade from 14.04
[13:22] <norok2> I am left with no disk space
[13:22] <norok2> and a hybrid system
[13:23] <blackflow> norok2: isn't that 32-bit cpu? if so, that's your problem, not the hybrid ISO
[13:26] <norok2> @blackflow I thought this iso is 32-bit http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/18.04/release/lubuntu-18.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[13:28] <solsTiCe> blackflow: was working fine for some time though
[13:29] <blackflow> solsTiCe: could be, Wayland and its compositors are still under heavy development and not ready for prime time yet.
[13:30] <blackflow> norok2: ah lubuntu, you didn't mention this in your original question.
[13:34] <deafboy> I have trouble installing some php7.2 packages on 18.04. Tried to switch to a different mirror and enabling proposed, but the dependencies are still broken.
[13:34] <deafboy> php7.2-intl : Depends: php7.2-common (= 7.2.3-1ubuntu1) but 7.2.7-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> is to be installed
[13:34] <deafboy> php7.2-mbstring : Depends: php7.2-common (= 7.2.3-1ubuntu1) but 7.2.7-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> is to be installed
[13:34] <deafboy> php7.2-zip : Depends: php7.2-common (= 7.2.3-1ubuntu1) but 7.2.7-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> is to be installed
[13:34] <deafboy> Is there some place other then this channel to report it?
[13:37] <rootkea> May I know how do I reset all the startup services? `systemctl preset-all` says "Failed to preset all units: Cannot assign requested address"
[13:54] <lotus|NUC> deafboy: did you add external ppa's of any kind to your system?
[13:54] <deafboy> No external PPAs
[13:54] <Kivaan> Can anyone help? While trying to install Ubuntu 18.04.1 from a bootable USB, I get the error 'uncompression error System halted'.
[13:54] <deafboy> they're supposed to be in universe repo
[13:54] <lotus|NUC> deafboy: why did you enable proposed?
[13:54] <Kivaan> i am on windows 7. i have 4 gb of ram.
[13:55] <lotus|NUC> !usb | Kivaan
[13:55] <deafboy> lotus|NUC: to see if the newer packages are there
[13:56] <deafboy> lotus|NUC: It seems that the required version is in the univers repo after all (according to packages.ubuntu.com), I just can't install it for some reason
[13:56] <Kivaan> lotus|NUC: I couldn't find anything there about the error i am facing.
[13:57] <lotus|NUC> deafboy: hastebin us the output of: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade please
[13:58] <lotus|NUC> Kivaan: wich tool did you use to make the usb?
[13:58] <Kivaan> lotus|NUC: rufus 3.1
[13:58] <deafboy> lotus|NUC: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/8c5DvP7FHp/
[13:59] <lotus|NUC> Kivaan: try universal usb installer, if that doesnt work, try another usb stick please
[14:00] <lotus|NUC> deafboy: that looks good right
[14:00] <lotus|NUC> deafboy: now same pastebin for: sudo apt install php7.2
[14:00] <Kivaan> ok
[14:02] <deafboy> lotus|NUC: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/3KSTS8VZVT/
[14:03] <lotus|NUC> deafboy: worked?
[14:04] <deafboy> that was just missing metapackage (i've tried to downgrade and forgot to install it back). I'm still unable to install the required packages from multiverse https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/VzfFPJZjvQ/
[14:06] <lotus|NUC> deafboy: try installing php7.2-common first
[14:07] <deafboy> lotus|NUC: php7.2-common is already the newest version (7.2.7-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>).
[14:08] <lotus|NUC> deafboy: hmm not sure if thats due to proposed or not
[14:09] <lotus|NUC> deafboy: try a sudo apt autoremove
[14:10] <lotus|NUC> deafboy: you could also try disable proposed, sudo apt update again and try again to install your needed packages
[14:12] <deafboy> lotus|NUC: autoremove didn't find anything to remove and proposed is already disabled
[14:12] <pragmaticenigma> deafboy: Run "sudo apt clean all && sudo apt autoclean && sudo apt update
[14:14] <deafboy> pragmaticenigma: clean and autoclena didn't help either
[14:15] <deafboy> this really looks like a universe repo problem to me https://imgur.com/a/fM4M6yC (screenshot from aptitude)
[14:15] <deafboy> but thanks for your help lotus|NUC, pragmaticenigma
[14:16] <deafboy> I'll try a different machine with 18.04, give me a sec...
[14:16] <pragmaticenigma> deafboy: Most of that was to make sure that removing proposed was cleared from the cache in apt
[14:17] <pragmaticenigma> deafboy: I attempted an install of php7.2-intl on my machine, and it didn't have any issues. Is there a different message than what you posted earlier when proposed is not enabled and you attempt to install?
[14:18] <deafboy> I've enabled proposed as an attempt to resolve the dependency problem in the first place
[14:24] <deafboy> I found the error
[14:25] <deafboy> If I have universe enabled for bionic repo, I also need to enable it for bionic-updates repo
[14:26] <pragmaticenigma> ah
[14:26] <slipttees> I have shared volume and mounted using cifs without problems. But in lubuntu 18.04 mount not appears in my Desktop like USB for example.  Lubuntu 16.04 this mount work ful
[14:26] <deafboy> and bionic-security as well I guess
[14:27] <pragmaticenigma> deafboy:  that would make sense. All updates live in the *-updates until Ubuntu decides to roll them up into a release, which is when the move them into the main repo (also when a point release is made)
[14:28] <pragmaticenigma> slipttees: How is the remote share mounted? In your fstab?
[14:30] <slipttees> pragmaticenigma: No. use pam_mount
[14:32] <pragmaticenigma> slipttees: I'm not too familiar with that method, but I assume it's similar to having a mount listed in fstab. In either case, when you plug a USB drive in, the script that runs, tells the Desktop environment about the mount. With system configured mounts (fstab, possibly pam_mount) there is nothing that tells the DE to add the mount as a shortcut.
[14:33] <slipttees> pragmaticenigma: Lubuntu 16.04 work! Upgrade 18.04 same config doesn't work :-(
[14:34] <slipttees> pragmaticenigma: pcmanfm have "show connected volumes on the Desktop"
[14:34] <qwebirc10809> Hi everyone, I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 and it can not detect a sennheiser momentum m2 via bluetooth, I have tried solutions from almost every post related to it, and still can not pair and play, I beg you for advice.
[14:35] <pragmaticenigma> slipttees: There appears to be a couple bugs filed that highlight the same issue you are experiencing. They both are labeled as fixed, but they are upstream from Ubuntu. Ubuntu Devs will bring those down eventually, but it is unknown when.
[14:35] <Kivaan> lotus|NUC: nope, no luck.
[14:42] <slipttees> pragmaticenigma: shared work. Only desktop shortcut no
[14:43] <lenny_lemon> does anybody using alfa network usb adapter? AWUS036NHA
[14:44] <lenny_lemon> there is advice in box to uninstall previous driver before install for this usb adapter ...
[14:45] <tomreyn> this advice most likley refers to windows?
[14:46] <lenny_lemon> so can I ignore it? i was just wondering if I unplug adapter if driver will work with laptop ...
[14:47] <quiltbitch> my ubuntu 18.04 crashes on my laptop g5. Removing quiet nosplash and adding nonmodeset on grub seems to just delay boot up but it eventually happens. Any advice?
[14:47] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: i think you can safely ignore this, unless it specifically refers to linux (and probably then, too).
[14:48] <tomreyn> should be USB ID: 0cf3:9271 (check 'lsusb')
[14:48] <quiltbitch> @Following up to that, when I say crashes I mean during boot up. It just freezes
[14:48] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: and the driver should be ath9k_htc
[14:49] <tomreyn> Chipset: Atheros AR9002U
[14:49] <freeone3000> Hi. I'm trying to bind an alternative console keymap. dumpkeys|loadkeys works, but I'd like it to be loaded by default without having to stick it in ~/.bash_profile. I've looked for a keymap file in /usr/share and /etc, and haven't found one. Where does Ubuntu stick the default console keymap?
[14:50] <tomreyn> quiltbitch: what is a "g5"?
[14:50] <quiltbitch> dell g5* 5587
[14:52] <tomreyn> freeone3000: /etc/default/console-setup
[14:52] <quiltbitch> tomreyn tbh with you I think its the nvidia graphics card and bad support for it on ubuntu. But again I know nothing about ubuntu
[14:52] <tomreyn> quiltbitch: is this ubuntu 18.04 or 18.04.1? default (gnome 3) desktop?
[14:53] <quiltbitch> the LTS release
[14:54] <quiltbitch> 18.04.01 I believe
[14:54] <tomreyn> quiltbitch: hmm yes, if it's got an nvidia, those cause a lot of problems.
[14:54] <zetheroo> JimBuntu: regarding Chrome autostart - no it's not in the Startup Applications list, but something is prompting it to start after I login.
[14:54] <quiltbitch> @tomreyn booting up is a pain, sleeping and waking up the laptop is impossible. Any workarounds?
[14:54] <quiltbitch> maybe I should install 16.04?
[14:56] <tomreyn> quiltbitch: were you maybe around here asking the same questions yesterday? i seem to recall this, but maybe i'm just mixing this up.
[14:57] <tomreyn> Dell G5 15'' (5587) service manual is at https://www.dell.com/support/manuals/us/en/19/g-series-15-5587-laptop/g5-5587-servicemanual
[14:57] <freeone3000> tomreyn: Awesome, thanks.
[14:57] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, i cannot find driver u wrote ... ath9k_htc ... chipset is Atheros AR9271 ...
[14:58] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, can you advice me how to install it? correct one ...
[14:58] <tomreyn> freeone3000: you probably just want to: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[14:58] <freeone3000> tomreyn: Yep, that got me to the right place with a quick search.
[14:59] <freeone3000> (it wasn't a standard keymodmap file, and the comment up top was a clue)
[14:59] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: can you post 'lsusb | pastebinit' after attaching the device?
[15:00] <tomreyn> freeone3000: glad i could help
[15:01] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/S2wsg2533N/
[15:01] <tomreyn> quiltbitch: did you try to boot into recovery and install the ubuntu proprietary drivers ppa from there?
[15:01] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: so you have it there on line 10:  ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n
[15:02] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: lsmod | grep ath | pastebinit
[15:03] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7g4km5tbzw/
[15:04] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: so the right driver is already loaded. are you able to configure it using network-manager (assuming this is a dektop computer)?
[15:04] <tomreyn> ...or a laptoip
[15:04] <lenny_lemon> laptop
[15:04] <jeffguorg> Hi. I have a problem that, one of my mdadm member failed. but when i boot up the system, the system still wait for the failure disk and enter emergency shell. i want it to automatically assemble a degraded raid. how should i do it? my os is Ubuntu 18
[15:04] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: asd opposed to a headless server
[15:05] <quiltbitch> @tomreyn yeah I was here yesterday too
[15:06] <quiltbitch> @tomreyn I already installed the nvidia drivers but I didn't do it through ppa, I did it through the settings interface
[15:06] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: running "modinfo -p ath9k_htc" (no need to show, i know the output) lists available module (driver) options you can tweak. read up on them before using them, though.  you usually dont need to modify them if everything works as expected.
[15:07] <tomreyn> quiltbitch: ok. so there are some newer drivers in a ppa. do you want to trry them?
[15:08] <tomreyn> quiltbitch: this discusses how to use them: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[15:08] <tomreyn> quiltbitch: my understanding is you can't currently get access to a grahical desktop, so let me know if you'd like guidance on how to install them form a text interface
[15:09] <Xann> Hi, my ubuntu 18.04 does not detect headsets via bluetooth, those are not even detected, askbuntu posts did not help.
[15:09] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, you lost me now ... :) what i suppose to do?
[15:10] <tomreyn> jeffguorg: so one of the raid members in a raid failed? is this a mirror raid setup=? can you show cat /proc/mdstat
[15:10] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: you run a graphical desktop, right? standard ubuntu 18.04.1 on a laptop?
[15:10] <quiltbitch> @tomreyn my laptop works fine except that: 1) During boot up if I don't enter recovery mode and follow the reset procedure it will freeze (during bootup) 2) During boot-up if I Don't remove quiete splash and replace with nomodeset it will again freeze 3) After sleeping, the screen will not open but the laptop comes out of the sleep (e.g. keyboard is lit)
[15:10] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn,  16.04 unity
[15:11] <quiltbitch> so I will try the above and see if it works
[15:11] <quiltbitch> will let you know! thanks
[15:11] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: oh whoops, good i asked :)
[15:11] <lenny_lemon> :)
[15:12] <tomreyn> quiltbitch: i'd still suggest you try the updated drivers then. you can remove them later if it turns out they do more bad than good.
[15:12] <tomreyn> good luck
[15:13] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: so have you tried just making use of it? you can configure it using the little network (up and down arrow) icon on the top right of your screen.
[15:14] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: it may also look like this icon next to the battery one here https://www.techotopia.com/images/c/c9/xUbuntu_11_unity_network_menu.jpg.pagespeed.ic.nhAGVcuyY7.jpg
[15:15] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: or it would look like those up and down arrows here http://lh4.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TPQFwUY-KJI/AAAAAAAACXE/NzO_5ataJkg/s2000/network-manager-applet.png
[15:17] <quiltbitch> @tomreyn I Would install them like: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-390"?
[15:17] <quiltbitch> and should I try the 390.48 or the 396.24?
[15:20] <tomreyn> quiltbitch: i guess i would just add / activate the ppa (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa; sudo apt-get update), then use ubuntu-drivers to select the driver.
[15:21] <tomreyn> quiltbitch: i'm afraid i don't know exactly which driver series you should be using. i know that which driver series you can use depends on the hardware model you have (which i dont think yuo discussed, yet).
[15:21] <quiltbitch> the hardware laptop model is g5 5587
[15:22] <quiltbitch> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1404308-REG/dell_g5587_7835blk_i7_8750h_16gb_1tb.html
[15:22] <tomreyn> yes you said so, i guess i could try to see which nvidia cards they put in there
[15:22] <quiltbitch> its nvidia gtx 1050 ti
[15:23] <tomreyn> i think those benefit form the ppa
[15:23] <tomreyn> i guess you'd want nvidia-396 (396.24)
[15:27] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, like the 1st one
[15:29] <tomreyn> !rootirc | TJ- :-P
[15:30] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, i can see networks ... ah I see the difference when I unplug it ... so is it self configured ?
[15:30] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: yes
[15:30] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: that's how things uusally work on linux.
[15:31] <tomreyn> quiltbitch: you got an 'urgent' bios update for this system here https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/drivers/driversdetails?driverId=817TR  - to check which one you have now. run: sudo dmidecode --type bios
[15:31] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, :)))
[15:32] <TJ-> tomreyn: are you hinting at something?
[15:33] <tomreyn> TJ-: no no  ;)
[15:34] <TJ-> tomreyn: that's good; I'd hate to think you had spotted a glaring security vulnerability
[15:35] <tomreyn> TJ-: all i spotted is: TJ-<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:36] <TJ-> tomreyn: it's been that way for years :)
[15:36] <tomreyn> TJ-: and i think yuo said it's just the realnme you set on your client.
[15:37] <TJ-> tomreyn: it could be, but when my ident server is actually opened up, it confirms it. However, IRC client is containerised
[15:37] <tomreyn> hmm nice, i should do this, too.
[15:38] <TJ-> LXC/LXD is great for such things
[15:38] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, thanks ... going to search for some guides how to make it work ... i mean try ...
[15:38] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: is it not self explanatory from the graphical interface, yet?
[15:39] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: i.e. can't you just connect to your wireless access point  by selecting it form the list?
[15:40] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, I'm connected to my wifi ... but I'm gonna search for some advanced capabilities ... promiscuous mode ...
[15:41] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: mointor mode doesn't work with all hardware and drivers. but it may. good luck.
[15:42] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, thanks
[15:43] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, will let you know how it goes ...
[15:48] <TJ-> lenny_lemon: use "iw list" and look for "Supported interface modes:" and confirm it advertises "* monitor" mode
[15:48] <TJ-> lenny_lemon: if you have multiple wifi devices ensure you're checking the correct device, since "iw list" reports on all devices
[15:50] <lenny_lemon> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VPS38tKvBq/
[15:50] <TJ-> lenny_lemon: according to that both devices support monitor mode
[15:50] <lenny_lemon> TJ-, i can see monitor there ...
[15:58] <lesshaste> what's a  good google drive client for linux?
[16:00] <satrioirc> hi every1
[16:05] <lesshaste> when I copy a file to my google drive using nautilus it shows the file and also a link to the file. Why does it make the symlink file?
[16:10] <IhrFussel> Can a software run OOM without a dmesg entry about it happening? For example with 15 segfaults?
[16:11] <IhrFussel> dmesg shows an application segfault and before the line says [172473.951593] show_signal_msg: 15 callbacks suppressed
[16:11] <nacc> IhrFussel: no, the OOM killer will always log
[16:12] <nacc> IhrFussel: it might have segfaulted 15 times?
[16:13] <BobFrankly> sooo, newly setup ubuntu server, I can apt-get update without issue, but I can't apt-get install lynx, getting "has no installation candidate". Any logs I can look into to try to figure out why?
[16:14] <IhrFussel> nacc, so an application can just segfault multiple times? I thought the OS would "stop" it after the first segfault
[16:18] <nacc> IhrFussel: well, no.
[16:18] <nacc> IhrFussel: i mean, your application might be controlled by a service script that restarts it on failure
[16:19] <nacc> IhrFussel: a process can't segfault multiple times, really; but an application can
[16:20] <IhrFussel> But the suppressed message happens in exact the same second as the logged segfault
[16:20] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, works fine ... need to play with it to fully understand ...
[16:21] <nacc> IhrFussel: not sure; it seems unlikely to be OOM and OOM's mesage is longer than 15 lines, iirc
[16:23] <IhrFussel> Here are the 2 related lines -> [172473.951593] show_signal_msg: 15 callbacks suppressed
[16:23] <IhrFussel> [172473.951603] Server[13827]: segfault at 150 ip<PHONE_NUMBER>74d012 sp 00007f8cf5fe4050 error 4 in processname[400000+491000]
[16:23] <nacc> IhrFussel: also OOM killer isn't a segfault to the process
[16:24] <nacc> (at least, as i recall)
[16:24] <tomreyn> BobFrankly: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/livecd-rootfs/+bug/1783129
[16:34] <lotus|NUC> quiltbitch: for 1050 gtx i would try 396.54
[16:35] <BobFrankly> tomreyn: thanks, that puts me in the right direction
[16:38] <tomreyn> BobFrankly: i just updated it with the download location for the daily image in case you feel like reinstalling (should fix some other issues, too)
[16:38] <tomreyn> BobFrankly: note there is also #ubuntu-server
[16:39] <BobFrankly> ah
[16:40] <BobFrankly> already tweaked my sources.list and getting signs of life out it :)
[17:01] <c__> Hi all
[17:01] <c__> I am not being able to use the internet.
[17:02] <c__> Neither Wifi nor cable.
[17:02] <c__> I initially had this supplicant issue: https://askubuntu.com/questions/828076/connection-802-1x-supplicant-failed
[17:03] <c__> But after following the steps I still unable to navigate.
[17:03] <c__> Could somebody help me out?
[17:04] <c__> I'm running the 18.04 version
[17:06] <lotus|NUC> c__: hastebin sudo lshw -C network please
[17:09] <slipttees> better solution for resolv.conf static?
[17:14] <c__> lotus|NUC: hastebin wasn't saving, so: https://privatebin.net/?b23099eecedd3ed0#5u4uXr/IratnjGkp+J1R4xTwdwjM8tpsKmukRCH+Rzk=
[17:14] <Xann> Hi, ubuntu 18.04 does not recognize sennheiser headsets via bluetooth, askbuntu forums did not worked for me.
[17:14] <quiltbitch> @lotus|NUC thanks it worked!
[17:14] <quiltbitch> @tomreyn Thanks so much! worked beautiful the latest driver
[17:15] <lotus|NUC> quiltbitch: no problem
[17:15] <tomreyn> quiltbitch: nice :)
[17:15] <lotus|NUC> c__: drivers look loaded, are you behind a firewall or a router?
[17:16] <quiltbitch> @tomreyn I have BIOS 1.3.0
[17:17] <quiltbitch> I think Dell already updated that patch from the windows program they have
[17:18] <c__> lotus|NUC: The wifi connection was attempted through a router, but didn't work. No firewalls.
[17:18] <lotus|NUC> c__: can you make sure its not your router block?
[17:18] <lotus|NUC> c__: direct cable connect perhaps?
[17:19] <lotus|NUC> Xann: did you try blueman? is your BT driver loaded?
[17:21] <whazproot> hi, hello , Quick Q ... i have debian-non-root debian linux on android with virtual filesystem ... can i just replace the apt with ubuntu-mobile and update ? ifso how ?
[17:21] <tomreyn> quiltbitch: very well, so nothing to do there. the intel microcode update provided with this bios version is also provided on ubuntu  (but it needs to be loaded on every boot if it's not no the bios).
[17:21] <c__> lotus|NUC: It's says it is connected but a question mark is displayed over the cable icon, also not receiving any data.
[17:21] <slipttees> better solution for resolv.conf static?
[17:21] <tomreyn> whazproot: i dont think this a supported installation here
[17:21] <lotus|NUC> c__: sure its not your isp/connection side that faults?
[17:22] <Xann> lotus|NUC: Yes, I have tryed blueman, the driver is loaded, I succesfully paired other devices, like a cellphone, but the headsets are not even recognized
[17:22] <lotus|NUC> slipttees: to get proper help, we advice to detail out your whole story, details, what have you tryed, what do you want to do?
[17:23] <slipttees> lotus|NUC: static nameserver
[17:23] <lotus|NUC> Xann: an idea to catch errors: tail -f /var/log/syslog and disable/enable BT again
[17:24] <lotus|NUC> Xann: feel free to hastebin the output to the channel
[17:25] <Xann> lotus|NUC: Ok, I'm on it
[17:26] <tomreyn> c__: your ethernet is known to occasionally stop working after resume: bug 1758507
[17:26] <c__> lotus|NUC: I tried routing the connection through the computer I am on, it displayed the same behaviour. I imagine that wouldn't be caught in a block if any existed, but its existence is very unlikely.
[17:28] <c__> It still displaying the "supplicant 802.1x" error.
[17:28] <lotus|NUC> c__: see what tomreyn suggested
[17:29] <c__> And can't find any wifi networks unless I restart the service.
[17:30] <c__> tomreyn: I see. A restart would fix it? Because I already tried that and didn't work.
[17:31] <Xann> lotus|NUC: https://pastebin.com/fcR4r9n3 there is the pastebin
[17:31] <whazproot> oh there is no ubuntu-mobile for nougat ?
[17:31] <lotus|NUC> c__: can you provide us some syslogs please?
[17:31] <tomreyn> c__: well i guess then it doesn't fix it ;) i noticed there are also some upstream kernel bug reports  and bug 138611 on launchpad, but those are *very* old, as is the hardware.
[17:32] <lotus|NUC> Xann: that doesnt look to good indeed
[17:33] <lotus|NUC> Xann: is your system up to dat to latest?
[17:33] <tomreyn> c__: i'd suggest getting a well supported wireless or wired (thernet) network device as a replacement for those you have now, if you are gpoing to continue using tise computer for a while longer.
[17:33] <c__> lotus|NUC: Would u recommend using journalCtl? I am not very experienced.
[17:33] <lotus|NUC> c__: its weird you have both wifi and eth not working
[17:34] <c__> tomreyn: That computer is very old indeed.
[17:34] <tomreyn> c__: > 10 years, i assume?
[17:36] <c__> tomreyn: It's from 2010 if I remember correctly. That's the device: https://esupport.sony.com/US/p/model-home.pl?mdl=VPCEA36FX
[17:36] <lotus|NUC> Xann: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1748565
[17:38] <Xann> lotus|NUC: Yes, it is, I did a apt update and upgrade and there are no updates aviable.
[17:41] <c__> lotus|NUC: I took some logs: https://privatebin.net/?a36281c01293c7fe#ceZdiCLwgNXqQ78+jqTCP+kEyRIMWipfNHQZl2b5qlE=
[17:43] <ioria> c__,    dmesg | grep -i sky2
[17:44] <tomreyn> c__: okay, not as old as i was thinking, but still quite old. a pity that sony went for the cheapest compoentns they could find there.
[17:45] <Xann> lotus|NUC: Should I try to install a newest kernel?
[17:45] <lotus|NUC> c__: i dont see any network related boot in syslog
[17:46] <lotus|NUC> Xann: follow the bug i posted, add yourself affected it seems 18.10 has also this bug for some users
[17:46] <lotus|NUC> Xann: you could help testing sure, try previous or a newer kernel always helps
[17:47] <c__> ioria: Here: https://privatebin.net/?e926711bb4939bd9#4pTgaCivUoRLL3sK4DDGXEN17yrBKrsG1X3LGDT+cKY=
[17:47] <Sven_vB> does anyone know a good tool to generate diagrams, where I can save receipes of how I want the diagrams to be made in files (ideally text) separate from data, and then view my CSV files using recipes of my choice?
[17:49]  * Sven_vB checks how complicated that would actually be in gnuplot
[17:49] <Xann> lotus|NUC: I see that, kernel 4.15.0 is running on my computer, and there are users that have the same problem on 4.15.8, I will follow that, I am going to try with other laptops that I have and post the logs there
[17:50] <c__> lotus|NUC: My mistake, the file is big. Here is the network part: https://privatebin.net/?78c5da88dd8a166b#7sBxtxFeWmYV0ubqAtzF+e7wVl5615Ff4l7m+YYyztQ=
[17:51] <lotus|NUC> Xann: .33 is out for 4.15
[17:52] <ioria> c__, uname -r
[17:52] <lotus|NUC> Xann: you said your system was up to date?
[17:58] <c__> ioria: 4.15.0-34-generic
[17:58] <ioria> !info linux-generic
[17:59] <ioria> c__, or you're using a not standard kernel or i missing something
[18:04] <c__> Ok guys.
[18:04] <c__> I will go back to the version 16.
[18:05] <lotus|NUC> c__: lsb_release -a ?
[18:06] <ioria> no one told you that
[18:07] <Xann> lotus|NUC:  I have the kernel version 4.15.0-33-generic
[18:07] <Xann> There are no updates for me
[18:07] <lotus|NUC> Xann: ah you meant your other computers had different kernel then?
[18:11] <Xann> lotus|NUC:I have another computer that runs Linux Mint 19 and is the same situation.
[18:13] <bookug> after I install libboost-all-dev
[18:13] <bookug> where can I find the position of libboost-system.so
[18:13] <bookug> not in /usr/lib and /lib, /usr/local/lib
[18:13] <bookug> what is the hell
[18:16] <lesshaste> I am using nautilus to access my Google drive. It all works fine except when I copy a file from my local drive to the Google drive by dragging and dropping in nautilus, it makes two files for every file I copy.
[18:17] <lesshaste> how can I stop this?
[18:17] <pragmaticenigma> Is it actually making two files on Google drive, or is just an appearance thing?
[18:27] <lotus|NUC> bookug: start from the beginning please, ubuntu version, what are you trying to do?
[18:28] <whazproot> jsqemu on an apk loading a virtual filesystem debian ... can i replace apt sources to run ubuntu as used todo ?
[18:28] <lotus|NUC> !debian | whazproot
[18:28] <whazproot> html5 android java app loading html5 jsqemu
[18:29] <whazproot> can i run jsqemu ubuntu touch beta then ?
[18:29] <leftyfb> whazproot: That's not supported here
[18:29] <whazproot> where ?
[18:30] <pragmaticenigma> whazproot: none of what you just wrote makes sense, other than it appears you are running on Debian. This channel only support Ubuntu's official flavors and matters specific to the operating system.
[18:31] <pragmaticenigma> whazproot: We are unable to support other distributions as well as working with devices other than a traditional desktop or server
[18:31] <texla> ubuntu 18.04 ubuntu/gnome De While booting the numLk pad light and buttons are active after login the light turns off and back on the num Lk pad buttons then goes dead and I have to use keyboard buttons for numbers..When I switch to cinnamon de all the systems work and continue too do so?
[18:31] <whazproot> android studio ... create empty tab app ... fillin java code for webview ... link webview to xml view ... add resources dir ... load jsqemu as file android asset ...
[18:32] <leftyfb> !alis | whazproot
[18:32] <pragmaticenigma> whazproot: Again, not supported here
[18:32] <whazproot> why isnt there jsqemu ubuntu on android yet ?
[18:32] <leftyfb> whazproot: try #android
[18:32] <whazproot> k thkx
[18:33] <whazproot> and better then jsqemu ubuntu would be jsqemu ubuntutouch ofc but thats locked inside phablet tools ? or runs native ? ... so whats the ubuntu touch irc channel again plz ?
[18:33] <leftyfb> !alis | whazproot
[18:34] <leftyfb> whazproot: see above for info on the Alis service on freenode
[18:34] <whazproot> !alis #ubuntu-touch
[18:34] <leftyfb> whazproot: not here
[18:34] <leftyfb> whazproot: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"
[18:34] <leftyfb> whazproot: good luck
[18:35] <whazproot> thkx peace
[18:37] <whazproot> and bytgheway if u do port jsqemu from qemu aagain ... this time tree.js and webgl ofc lol
[18:37] <lotus|NUC> whazproot: stop that please
[18:39] <texla> ubuntu 18.04 ubuntu/gnome De While booting the numLk pad light and buttons are active after login the light turns off and back on the num Lk pad buttons then goes dead and I have to use keyboard buttons for numbers..When I switch to cinnamon de all the systems work and continue too do so?
[18:40] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | texla
[18:41] <keepguessing> After upgrading to 18.04 (from 16.04) I see that default route is not set.
[18:41] <keepguessing> Am I missing something?
[18:42] <pragmaticenigma> !details | keepguessing
[18:43] <keepguessing> pragmaticenigma: there is no error. the default route gateway in route -n is not existing. I did a LTS to LTS upgrade.
[18:43] <ExoUNX> greetings
[18:43] <ExoUNX> I don't see php-smbclient in Ubuntu 18.04
[18:43] <ExoUNX> do I need to enable a repo to access it?"
[18:44] <lotus|NUC> ExoUNX: its in universe
[18:44] <keepguessing> pragmaticenigma: what info should I provide here?
[18:44] <ExoUNX> lotus|NUC, pretty sure everything is in the universe ;)
[18:45] <lotus|NUC> !info php-smbclient | ExoUNX
[18:45] <ExoUNX> not sure what "universe" is to Ubuntu though
[18:45] <pragmaticenigma> keepguessing: if you're not experiencing an issue, I do not understand what you a looking for then.
[18:46] <ExoUNX> lotus|NUC, I've seen the page, but that doesn't help
[18:46] <ExoUNX> I'm relatively new the ubuntu ecosystem
[18:46] <lotus|NUC> ExoUNX: the page?
[18:46] <ExoUNX> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/php-smbclient
[18:46] <pragmaticenigma> ExoUNX: Perhaps a good opportunity to search for "Ubuntu Enable Universe Repo"
[18:47] <keepguessing> pragmaticenigma: Oh the issue is that I am do not have any network. unable to ping outside the network.
[18:47] <wad> Using 18.04, when I ALT-TAB, and have multiple Chrome browser windows open, it groups them under one chrome icon. But I need to ALT-TAB between those Chrome windows. What's the magic trick?
[18:47] <keepguessing> pragmaticenigma: I found that there was no default route in the route -n. Adding one manually seems to make everything work.
[18:48] <pragmaticenigma> keepguessing: Did you have a custom configuration in 16.04 ? 18.04 uses netplan instead of the previous network management toolset
[18:48] <ExoUNX> thanks
[18:49] <keepguessing> pragmaticenigma: no I do not. (no static ip's etc.,)
[18:49] <leftyfb> pragmaticenigma: the upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 doesn't use netplan by default
[18:49] <pragmaticenigma> thanks for the clarification leftyfb
[18:51] <whazproot> https://www.sololearn.com/Discuss/1472467/how-to-build-a-mobile-app-with-html-js-and-css/
[18:52] <pragmaticenigma> whazproot: This is not a channel for discussion of application development... please stop posting offtopic
[18:54] <keepguessing> So I do see that the network manager is able to identify the default gw. https://dpaste.de/SNkD
[18:55] <keepguessing> but I do nto see any errors in the journalctl about failure to set the default gw.
[19:01] <wad> Ah, I figured it out! Changed the keyboard bindings to hook up ALT-TAB to switch windows, instead of applications.
[19:01] <wad> Man, I miss my Ring Switcher. :(
[19:10] <nacc> wad: there's an alternatetab extension to gnome to do that
[19:15] <mcj> Hi all. How would one best partition the following config: 256GB SDD and 2TB HDD
[19:16] <mcj> / on SSD, /home on HDD?
[19:18] <nacc> mcj: well, it depends entirely on your use case :)
[19:19] <albech> had to add 'nomodeset' as bootarg in grub to get my old mac mini to boot 18.04, but this has resulted in the second monitor not to be detected. any ideas?
[19:20] <keepguessing> pragmaticenigma: ok I found the issue. seems like the settings on the interface was "use this connection only for resources on this network".
[19:21] <keepguessing> pragmaticenigma: I was not aware of this kind of setting in ubuntu 16.04 anywhere.
[19:22] <texla> ubuntu 18.04 ubuntu/gnome De While booting the numLk pad light and buttons are active after login the light turns off and back on the num Lk pad buttons then goes dead and I have to use keyboard buttons for numbers..When I switch to cinnamon de all the systems work and continue too do so?
[19:22] <pragmaticenigma> Seems new to me as well keepguessing ... but that would make sense
[19:23] <c__> Hey guys.
[19:23] <keepguessing> ok thanks. I would like know a config option of where this was set. I do not see this in netplan or the older /etc/network/interfaces
[19:24] <c__> My system is working now.
[19:24] <pragmaticenigma> keepguessing: it almost sounds like a setting I would expect to see for VPN setup
[19:25] <c__> Thanks for all the help anyways.
[19:25] <c__> Bye
[19:26] <ledeni> texla: open terminal and set --> gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals.keyboard numlock-state 'on'
[19:27] <albech> pragmaticenigma: that setting is commonly used in VPN connections, right
[19:27] <texla> ledeni, already did what you suggest
[19:27] <keepguessing> pragmaticenigma: Its a setting on the network adapter in the UI. This has some good infor on it. https://askubuntu.com/questions/913112/how-to-toggle-networkmanagers-use-this-connection-only-for-resources-on-its-ne thanks.
[19:28] <javi404> hi
[19:28] <javi404> anyone know why ubuntu 16.04 comes with nginx 1.10.3 instead of something newer? 14.x comes with 1.12.2
[19:28] <javi404> nginx 15 is latest out.
[19:29] <albech> javi404: its a LTS release
[19:29] <javi404> albech: I thought 14 was also LTS release
[19:29] <javi404> unless I missed something.
[19:29] <javi404> yeah, picking LTS release for that reason, we are just moving from 14 16 and noticed that
[19:29] <albech> javi404: 14.??
[19:29] <javi404> was surprised
[19:29] <javi404> albech: I think, let me see
[19:30] <albech> javi404: probably 14.10
[19:30] <javi404> PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS"
[19:30] <albech> javi404: then i agree it seems rather strange. sure you not added some repo?
[19:31] <javi404> albech: double checking, I am not sure if someone else added something.
[19:31] <javi404> albech: these are years old at this point.
[19:31] <albech> javi404: figured that much if runnin on 14.04
[19:31] <javi404> nginx/trusty,now 1.12.2-0+trusty0 all [installed]
[19:32] <ioria> !info nginx trusty
[19:33] <javi404> !info nginx xenial
[19:34] <javi404> ioria: so it looks like someone manually upgraded it,
[19:34] <albech> javi404: indeed
[19:34] <pragmaticenigma> !latest | javi404
[19:34] <ioria> javi404, apt-cache policy nginx
[19:34] <javi404> might have even been me and I forgot since it was long ago, haha.
[19:35] <albech> javi404: internal documentation ftw ;)
[19:35] <javi404> albech: yeah, I have notes somewhere, this is on a client system.
[19:36] <w0rp> I'm trying to fix some broken booting issues in KDE Neon, where much of the steps are the same as Ubuntu.
[19:37] <w0rp> I managed to get my linux image and so on in /boot again, and I got the GRUB menu to update. I diffed that and the old config, and the only difference was just the kernel version, so I copied that to the EFI partition.
[19:38] <javi404> i don't see any nginx repo added
[19:38] <ioria> javi404, apt-cache policy nginx
[19:38] <w0rp> Now I have the problem that on boot it drops to initramfs and my encrypted partitions aren't in /dev/mapper. Does anyone know what the problem might be?
[19:38] <javi404> ioria: ok, let me check that
[19:40] <javi404> ioria: ok, i see that, looks like it is getting it from : 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/nginx/stable/ubuntu/ trusty/main amd64 Packages
[19:40] <mcj> The ideal situation is that all OS files sit on the SSD and any user-related files like documents, music, and games would be pulled from the HDD
[19:40] <ioria> javi404, yep
[19:40] <mcj> So I assume that partition scheme is good
[19:40] <mcj> But it may underutilize my SSD space...
[19:41] <javi404> ioria: so how did that get there? I didn't see sources anywhere, what command would I use.
[19:41] <ioria> javi404, ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[19:42] <javi404> ioria: ok, i see it now
[19:42] <javi404> someone added it
[19:42] <javi404> thanks, must have been some reason to upgrade
[19:42] <javi404> ill do same in 16.
[19:43] <nacc> javi404: not the exact same, you obviously want the xenial version of the pacakge (not trusty)
[19:43] <javi404> nacc: yep, thanks.
[19:44] <pragmaticenigma> mcj: I may have missed a previous comment. Do you have an Ubuntu related support question?
[19:46] <mcj> pragmaticenigma: I was asking what the best way to partition a 256 SSD and a 2TB HDD is
[19:46] <mcj> / = SSD, /home = HDD
[19:46] <mcj> But with that scheme, I feel like I am under-utilizing my SSD
[19:50] <pragmaticenigma> mcj: As nacc had mentioned perviously... it all depends on your usage case. Your question isn't exactly a support question is likely to generate lots of opinons. I would encourage you to search the web and see what others have found to work for them and come to your own conclusion on what you feel will work best for your needs.
[19:50] <mcj> Thank you
[19:51] <TJ-> mcj: I'd use LVM, and not pre-allocate all the space. The rootfs rarely needs more than 8GB. Another 8GB for /var, and then /home starting with 32GB and grow it as required
[19:51] <nacc> TJ-: that's a good point
[19:52] <wendico> hello, i have a fresh ubuntu 18 installation. i want to use heimdall to flash my old samsumg but sudo apt-get install heimdall says no candidate and that heimdall-flash replace it, is heimdall installed by default on last ubuntu version? should i sudo apt-get install heimdall-flash instead? thank you
[19:52] <nacc> wendico: ... well heimdall can't be installed on the lastest ubuntu, so it can't be installed by default.
[19:53] <nacc> wendico: in fact, afaict, there is no binary package 'heimdall' in any ubuntu
[19:54] <wendico> so is that means that i cant usea that heimdall software on my last ubuntu version?
[19:54] <nacc> wendico: well, where did you get the binary packge name 'heimdall' from?
[19:55] <nacc> wendico: heimdall-flash is the package name, afaict
[19:55] <pragmaticenigma> wendico: There has never been a "Heimdall" package available in Ubuntu. From what I can see ,the samsung flash utility has always been called heimall-flash for ubuntu dating back to Trusty
[19:55] <wendico> i didnt get it yet, i connectec to android channel and they told me i could flash my samsumg with heimdall so i did sudo apt-get install heimdall with the result explained before
[19:55] <nacc> wendico: right, heimdall is a program name, not a package name, maybe
[19:56] <wendico> ahhh ok, so i should sudo apt-get install heimdall-flash ?
[19:56] <wendico> should i also install heimdall-flash-frontend?
[19:57] <wendico> thank you
[19:57] <pragmaticenigma> keepguessing: Another thought, did you ever attempt to disable IPv6 features in 16.04?
[19:58] <keepguessing> pragmaticenigma: no.
[19:58] <pragmaticenigma> keepguessing: okay
[19:58]  * redraw thinking
[20:00] <wendico> and another question, if i dont really want to flash the whole firmware, can i use adb commands from ubuntu, if so, what do i need to install, because i dont really want to install theh whole firmware again i would just like to trigger an apk installation on my phone from ubuntu, is that posible aswell?
[20:00] <pragmaticenigma> wendico: That is outside the scope of this channel. We don't support android
[20:00] <tangarora> Hi all, I want to edit gsettings globally for all users. How do I do that?
[20:01] <pragmaticenigma> tangarora: There is no "global" ability
[20:01] <tangarora> like: gsettings set org.gnome.shell.extensions.dash-to-dock click-action 'minimize'
[20:01] <tangarora> but for all
[20:01] <wendico> allright, thank you, im always out of topic, sorry very much, im new on this things so dont always know in what channels to ask, sorry
[20:01] <keepguessing> pragmaticenigma: now I see that the network is pingable the its not able to dns resolve unless I add a dns server of my network.
[20:02] <pragmaticenigma> tangarora: There isn't a tool that does that.
[20:02] <pragmaticenigma> keepguessing: Do you have another machine on your network running Ubuntu 18.04 that is having any issues?
 is there a setings template file that I can edit then?
[20:03] <tangarora> I mean, because distros have different defaults...
[20:03] <iresf> hello
[20:03] <pragmaticenigma> tangarora: https://help.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/3.28/
[20:04] <pragmaticenigma> tangarora: take a look there, all you need to know about admining Gnome will be there
[20:04] <iresf> I have set https_proxy in Ubuntu server on vm  but it does not work
[20:04] <keepguessing> pragmaticenigma: I have another vm with ubuntu 18.04 installed (not an upgrade). It works fine.
[20:04] <iresf> anyone help
[20:04] <pragmaticenigma> keepguessing: Just wondering if the DHCP server (assuming network router) was having issues
[20:05] <madLyfe> what is the area called and located where you can see via gui your sources and added PPAs?
[20:05] <keepguessing> pragmaticenigma: no. Both the vms are alive right now. And I am having this issue.
[20:07] <mort> Does Ubuntu Server have some lower limit to the size of disk it can be installed on? I noticed that a fresh install only uses like 3.3GB, but I'm unable to select a 5GB disk in the installer
[20:07] <nacc> iresf: that's too vague to be helped. What symptoms do you see, etc.
[20:08] <iresf> nacc : I set https_proxy with this command : export https_proxy="https://proxy:port"
[20:08] <pragmaticenigma> keepguessing: oh... these are vms
[20:08] <blackflow> mort: 3.3GB + 2GB swapfile
[20:08] <keepguessing> pragmaticenigma: :-)
[20:09] <nacc> keepguessing: you just don't have DNS by default? what entry, if any, is in /etc/resolv.conf?
[20:09] <blackflow> mort: or is swapfile in that 3.3?
[20:09] <nacc> iresf: ok... that isn't a symptom yet
[20:09] <nacc> iresf: use a pastebin
[20:09] <tomreyn> madLyfe: "software & updates", AKA software-properties-gtk (or -kde)
[20:09] <mort> blackflow: if it's an actual swapfile and not swap partition, it's a part of the 3.3GB, because it's the "Used" section in `df -h`
[20:10] <dbou> hello, any suggestions on calendar apps that integrate with ubuntu
[20:10] <dbou> ubuntu 18.04
[20:10] <blackflow> mort: default is swapfile. yeah that sounds about right, ~3G in total
[20:11] <pragmaticenigma> dbou: Ubuntu comes with one already built in
[20:11] <iresf> nacc : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Yb46csBZxF/
[20:11] <nacc> iresf: ...
[20:11] <dbou> pragmaticenigma, for some reason I am not able to run it... find it. I think because I installed the minimal version
[20:11] <iresf> nacc  : but when I use curl ipinfo.io/ip   it does not show that the proxy ip
[20:11] <keepguessing> nacc: <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:11] <nacc> iresf: i asked for a symptom, and you pastebinned what you alread wrote
[20:12] <nacc> iresf: are you curl'ing over https?
[20:12] <nacc> keepguessing: ok, that's systemd-resolved; you can query it for dns info
[20:12] <nacc> keepguessing: see `man systemd-resolve`
[20:12] <iresf> nacc : ye s
[20:14] <dbou> sudo apt-get install gnome-calendar worked :)
[20:15] <nacc> iresf: you need to pastebin the curl, etc.
[20:17] <keepguessing> nacc: I am not looking at adding a dns server. I am trying to debug the difference of why this shoudl work on this.
[20:17] <nacc> keepguessing: you said you added your local dns server and things worked
[20:17] <nacc> keepguessing: so you need to ask systemd-resolve what it is using or not.
[20:18] <keepguessing> why its not working on my auto-upgraded ubuntu installed and works on the directly installed version.
[20:21] <Wafficus> hi there, how do I force lubuntu to have transparency terminal windows?
[20:21] <Wafficus> is this possible with OpenBox for a Linux newbie?
[20:21] <keepguessing> nacc: ok looks like its not using the dns server that is used in the "clean install".
[20:21] <pragmaticenigma> keepguessing: freshly installed 18.04 is not using the same network management tools as 18.04 upgraded machines
[20:22] <keepguessing> pragmaticenigma: what is the difference.
[20:22] <pragmaticenigma> keepguessing: In 18.04 fresh installed, Ubuntu uses a local instance of dnsmasq to perform local caching.
[20:22] <madLyfe> so i added the mozilla ppa because i didnt want to wait for the recent FF to be pushed to me. now i have these showing up at updates. what exactly is going on here? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/6sAQzjy7/image.png
[20:23] <pragmaticenigma> keepguessing: so in fresh 18.04, your machine is configured to look locally for DNS, and dnsmasq uses the DNS servers applied from the DHCP request
[20:23] <pragmaticenigma> madLyfe: We don't support 3rd party PPAs
[20:23] <keepguessing> pragmaticenigma: so installing dnsmasq in the upgraded version would help?
[20:23] <pragmaticenigma> madLyfe: It is also why we do not recommend installing 3rd party PPAs
[20:23] <madLyfe> its a ppa from the ubuntu security team, isnt it?
[20:23] <pragmaticenigma> keepguessing: I don't think after the fact will help
[20:24] <pragmaticenigma> madLyfe: no
[20:24] <madLyfe> hmm
[20:24] <keepguessing> so how do I tell ubuntu to use dnsmasq?
[20:24] <madLyfe> well im not here saying there is a problem, im just wondering what is going on with it to better understand.
[20:25] <leftyfb> madLyfe: I don't actually see what the issue is at all. You added a ppa and now it checks that ppa for updates along with all your other repo's. What's the issue?
[20:25] <madLyfe> why is there 2 updates? and why am i getting another update after i already got the update when i added the PPA.
[20:26] <pragmaticenigma> madLyfe: As was already stated... not supported... you will have to reach out to the maintainer of that repo for those answers
[20:27] <leftyfb> madLyfe: updates for what exactly?
[20:27] <madLyfe> or is this the push from the main ubuntu repo over the top of the PPA?
[20:27] <madLyfe> the FF updates.
[20:28] <pragmaticenigma> madLyfe: The the 3rd party repo is now the controller for Firefox... They will superseed changes in the Ubuntu repo. If Ubuntu team releases an update to FF, your system will not install it
[20:28] <leftyfb> madLyfe: pastebin the following: apt-cache policy firefox
[20:28] <leftyfb> pragmaticenigma: not exactly true. If for whatever reason the ubuntu repo has an update with a higher number, that will get installed over the PPA version
[20:29] <madLyfe> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Rq7YsfqV57/
[20:29] <leftyfb> Higher version numbers are what override/updates packages. Not the source. Sources don't set wight/priority
[20:29] <leftyfb> weight*
[20:30] <leftyfb> madLyfe: according to that, you still have a new update from the PPA. Feel free to install it if that is what you're trying to do
[20:35] <madLyfe> leftyfb: its odd that it says ubuntu 18.04.2? is there a ubuntu version bump coming?
[20:35] <leftyfb> madLyfe: that's the version of firefox
[20:35] <leftyfb> 62.0+build2-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[20:35] <leftyfb> they bumped the version so the update would get installed
[20:35] <leftyfb> it has nothing to do with the version of ubuntu
[20:36] <madLyfe> ohh
[20:50] <ExoUNX> can I get snap help here?
[20:51] <keepguessing> nacc: ok I installed dnsmasq. toggled automatic dns caching setting which resolved my issue.
[20:51] <javi404> ExoUNX: what is snap help?
[20:52] <ExoUNX> Is it possible to receive assistance with Ubuntu snaps
[20:52] <ExoUNX> in this channel
[20:53] <Bashing-om> !snappy
[20:54] <Bashing-om> ExoUNX: ^^ better response in the #snappy channel .
[20:55] <ExoUNX> cool, thanks
[20:55] <raidghost> Thanks. Now i got the Tvserie Snappy The Kangeroo on my mind.
[21:08] <jayjo> is there a way to reduce the resolution on my machine, even if it's only using software? I'm at my monitor max/allowed by the os at 1920x1080, but the fonts are large. Any way around it?
[21:09] <akem> jayjo, maybe try to look the font section in gnome-tweak-tool.
[21:15] <TJ-> jayjo: you want smaller fonts? It could be a scaling-factor issue, or a HiDPI theme/setting
[21:21] <Nokaji> a 'gamma' setting screen came up form somewhere and I may have inadvertently changed the settings - the upshot is everything is fine apart from Night Mode, which doesn't change anything any more
[21:28] <qwefytuoityty> how to look frequency gpu and frequency gpu memory? NV 710. Nvidia driver not installed
[21:33] <tomreyn> qwefytuoityty: https://www.mesa3d.org/envvars.html
[21:39] <tomreyn> example: GALLIUM_HUD="cpu,fps;primitives-generated" LIBGL_SHOW_FPS=1 glxgears >/dev/null
[21:42] <kaddi> @tomreyn I was here yesterday with the sleep issues. I figured out the issue and thought I'd share. It seems that the 'real' issue today is that the sd-card reader isn't (yet?) supported and prevents the sleep. Disabling the sd-card reader in BIOS and setting the kernel parameters as indicated in your link allowed me  to successfully get the machine to sleep.
[21:42] <kaddi> Just wanted to let you know :)
[21:43] <tomreyn> kaddi: great, glad you worked it out. i spotted someone discussing the sdcard causing the wakeup events on one of those linked pages, too. glad it actually works.
[21:45] <idjit> i'm attempting to install 18.04 server. it fails after the partitioning stage (8/11). it sees the drive just fine up to this point (lists the drive in the menu with the correct size and everything). the full log says "ValueError: no disk with serial '...' found". any ideas what would cause this?
[21:46] <tomreyn> idjit: is it 18.04.0 or 18.04.1 ?
[21:47] <idjit> 18.04.1. i downloaded it earlier today.
[21:48] <TJ-> idjit: is it an install to bare-metal or a virtual machine?
[21:48] <idjit> bare-metal.
[21:50] <TJ-> idjit: what interface is the disk on? SATA, SCSI, IDE, iSCSI, something else?
[21:50] <TJ-> idjit: we had some bugs with VM installs using virtio that affected subiquity/curtin/MAAS, but those were fixed in those packages
[21:51] <idjit> i'm not sure about the disk interface. is there a better way to get that without cracking open the case?
[21:51] <TJ-> idjit: are you able to drop to a shell from the installer, and check the /sys/block/... fs node for that device, see if it does report a serial # or not
[21:51] <kaddi> only thing I need to figure out now is to get the sleep to stop  when I open the lid or type on the keyboard :P
[21:52] <TJ-> idjit: alternatively, boot the system from a desktop LiveISO and do the queries via the "Try Ubuntu" session
[21:52] <qwefytuoityty> If need to compile variant is not interesting to me. Have variant easier?
[21:53] <qwefytuoityty> If need to compile this variant is not interesting to me. Have variant easier?
[21:54] <idjit> TJ-: i don't see anything with the serial number in /sys/block
[21:54] <tomreyn> qwefytuoityty: please rephrase.
[21:54] <idjit> TJ-: lspci lists "02:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd Device a808", which i think is it
[21:55] <tomreyn> kaddi: so currently ou need to push the power button to wake it from sleep?
[21:55] <idjit> and /dev/block/nvm30n1 is pointing to that pci device (if i'm reading this correctly)
[21:57] <idjit> TJ-: /dev/disk/by-id contains a symlink with the disk's serial number in the name pointing to that device
[21:57] <kaddi> tomreyn: yes
[21:57] <jayjo> is there an easy way to send a sigint to a systemd service? Now I do sudo service <service> stop and wait hours
[21:57] <jayjo> or sigkill i guess
[21:58] <TJ-> idjit: I'd expect under a node under /dev/disk/by-id/ of the form <interface>_<vendor>_<model>_<serial>
[21:58] <tomreyn> kaddi: then, for now, i consider this to be a luxury issue ;-)
[21:59] <TJ-> idjit: so something in the installer is either losing the serial # or never finding it
[21:59] <tomreyn> kaddi: do file a bug though, if there isn't one already.
[22:00] <kaddi> tomreyn: I'm also considering it a luxury issue :D I'll wait a bit with the bug report as I'm not even sure if it's a config issue on my end or not
[22:00] <idjit> TJ-: yes. i have that. "/dev/disk/by-id/nvme-PM981_NVMe_Samsung_256GB__S44...". the installer complains that it cannot find "PM981_NVMe_Samsung_256GB_______S44..."
[22:00] <tomreyn> jayjo: use systemctl to manage systemd, not 'service'
[22:01] <idjit> TJ-: can i just partition the disk myself with a different livedisk and skip this part of setup?
[22:01] <qwefytuoityty> To install, I must first compile? https://www.mesa3d.org/envvars.html
[22:01] <TJ-> idjit: are you seeing these /dev/ nodes from the actual installer, or from the Try Ubuntu live session?
[22:01] <TJ-> idjit: if the former, then it definitely seems to have got its knickers in a twist :)
[22:02] <TJ-> idjit: in theory, but this is likely a symptom of a deeper issue, else I'm sure we'd have seen this before on bare metal
[22:02] <tomreyn> qwefytuoityty: you don't need to install or sompile anything. just run any application / commpand which created an opengl context and prefix it by these environment variables.
[22:02] <idjit> after the installer bails it offers me to drop into a shell. i'm using that shell now and reporting what it says is in /dev
[22:03] <TJ-> idjit: the fact there's a /dev/disk/by-id/ node there, but the installer says it can't find it, points to something weird going on.
[22:03] <tomreyn> qwefytuoityty: if you don't have glxinfo installed and want to try this with this simple opengl command, you can install it like so: sudo apt install mesa-utils
[22:04] <tomreyn> i mean glxgears, not glxinfo
[22:04] <idjit> TJ-: i was afraid of that. https://certification.ubuntu.com/hardware/201609-25114/ says this system should work. but that's 16.04, which i was hoping to skip.
[22:05] <TJ-> idjit: I'm looking at the source-code now; it appears some serial numbers have weird formats (such as containing spaces) so first we should see exactly what the serial number is. Can you paste it here?
[22:07] <idjit> unfortunately i don't have *exact* since there are spaces that appear to be normalized to underscores, and i have to count them, since ther'es no copy pate :-)
[22:07] <TJ-> idjit: this looks like Bug #1647485 which is supposed to be fixed
[22:08] <qwefytuoityty> i use ubuntu-mate 18, in ubuntu-mate nouveau?
[22:08] <tomreyn> qwefytuoityty: yes, you can use this with ubuntu-mate and nouveau mesa based open source drivers.
[22:09] <idjit> TJ-: well, shucks. this was fixed over a year ago. possible regression?
[22:09] <tomreyn> qwefytuoityty: there is no "ubuntu-mate 18", though, there is "Ubuntu Mate 18.04 LTS"
[22:10] <TJ-> idjit: indeed; that's why getting to see the exact serial # (and what's in  /dev/disk/by-id/ ) would be very handy
[22:10] <tomreyn> that'd be an awesome regression, not.
[22:10] <TJ-> idjit: could you write them to a USB storage device?
[22:11] <idjit> i can dig one up, sure, but i'm going to have to get back to it tomorrow. while i'm preserving things, where would the mdadm stacktrace outputs go? is that logged somewhere?
[22:11] <TJ-> idjit: stacktrace!? did it core-dump?
[22:12] <TJ-> idjit: generally crashes are recorded in /var/crash/
[22:12] <idjit> meant to mention that. python stacktrace in the installer log, yeah. this thing was grumpy. nothing in /var/crash though.
[22:12] <TJ-> idjit: if you're seeing multiple issues, including mdadm crashing, I'd start to suspect the hardware is flakey
[22:13] <idjit> brand f'qn new out of the box today :-(
[22:13] <TJ-> idjit: I usually track down recent log files using "ls -latr /var/log/" which lists most recently modified last
[22:13] <TJ-> idjit: that doesn't preclude bad RAM modules
[22:14] <idjit> TJ-: you're right, of course, i just wish things worked, lol
[22:14] <TJ-> idjit: join my club!
[22:15] <TJ-> I'm juggling so many issues I'm meeting myself coming back the other way :)
[22:16] <idjit> alright, thank you for your help, i've gotta run for now, but this gives me a few threads to pick up on tomorrow. so i'll get back to you if i can't get it sorted out. thank you!
[22:17] <qwefytuoityty> xsensor and psensor have for gpu only temperature, not bad if in psensor for gpu it will be possible to see frequencys.
[22:19] <qwefytuoityty> xsensor temperature and voltage for gpu
[22:22] <tomreyn> qwefytuoityty: for now most people are happy when nvidia works on linux at all. you can always send them e-mail expressing your discontent with their linux support.
[22:25] <TJ-> I hit a really weird issue with nvidia-x-settings recently; on a dual-GPU/4-monitor config with 2 X screens, it correctly configures the monitor layout for the greeter, but as soon as user logs in it breaks it (changes rotation, and position) - manual xrandr is required to fix it. This wasn't a problem a couple years ago.
[22:33] <ice99> what's the best irc client?
[22:34] <Tin_man> personal opinion hexchat
[22:34] <nacc> ice99: not really ontopic for this channel.
[22:39] <Tin_man> nacc, hard not to ask a simple question, but if your new shinny topic police badge is on then so be it..
[22:39] <qwefytuoityty> https://screenshots.firefox.com/wZdaRajtQVohrHo9/null
[22:40] <nacc> Tin_man: there are many channels dedicated to chitchat and general Linux questions. We like to keep this channel clear for support discussions only.
[22:40] <qwefytuoityty> In Windows
[22:40] <Tin_man> nacc drop it your taking this way past the point..
[22:40] <nacc> qwefytuoityty: why are you posting a screen shot of windows?
[22:40] <qwefytuoityty> XP
[22:42] <slyjester> So what does everyone use for a music player?
[22:42] <jeremy31> 8 track
[22:43] <nacc> slyjester: please take polls to #ubuntu-offtopic. If you have a specific Ubuntu support question, ask it here.
[22:43] <slyjester> Woops wrong channel
[22:43] <slyjester> my bad
[22:43] <qwefytuoityty> audacious or any players
[23:02] <Aaron>
[23:49] <qwebirc64497> How do I make a .deb package? :)
[23:51] <slyjester> qwebirc64497, You can use checkinstall
[23:52] <slyjester> Well, thats if you'd be using make otherwise
[23:55] <qwebirc64497> I'm using make, but I got an error
[23:55] <qwebirc64497> [23:56] <jeremy31> qwebirc64497 are you trying to install a deb or build one?
[23:56] <qwebirc64497> build
[23:58] <jeremy31> qwebirc64497 build a driver or something else?  I might have a site in my bookmarks
[23:59] <qwebirc64497> wdym
[23:59] <qwebirc64497> It's a text editor written in C