[07:57] <qwerty_> automatix seems to work better than easyubuntu so i will continue to use automatix instead of easyubuntu
[07:57] <FunnyLookinHat> helpmeee, ok      sudo apt-get install libopenal0a
[07:58] <Derreck> prophet: You could try installing the gnome-art package, it's a program that displays thumbnails of, and installs themes.
[07:58] <qwertybob> Bonez56: or you can open synaptic and see versions, just search for stuff
[07:58] <flack> Nynoure: I know, but the problem is ubuntu is like that with alot of packages (that's why I went to gentoo... even if hardware detection on ubuntu owns)
[07:58] <helpmeee> FunnyLookinHat: I think it's installed now :)
[07:58] <Justin_> qwerty_ right on, you cant trust anything that says its easy, only automatic
[07:58] <FunnyLookinHat> helpmeee, ok try ./ioquake3.i386
[07:58] <Lynoure> flack: Ubuntu is not trying to have everything of everything... Debian is trying to do that :)
[07:58] <Justin_> they dont call automatic transmissions "easy transmissions" for a reason you know
[07:58] <Shak-> hawkaloogie, regular xchat now
[07:58] <Justin_> ;)
[07:58] <DavidJ> LeaChim: I have an HP Pavilion dv5167cl laptop
[07:58] <csk> hi all i am running dapper 6.06 and am finding that it is freezing on me a lot of the time. can anyone please help?
[07:59] <burepe> I am trying to run this command "sudo apt-get build-dep banshee" and it keeps telling me I need a URI in sources.list what does that mean?
[07:59] <qwerty_> i guess
[07:59] <qwertybob> Bonez56: ubuntu or debian has there own packages for openoffice, made for system
[07:59] <prophet> yeah just got that derrick
[07:59] <prophet> what was that apt search command though i lik eit>
[07:59] <flack> Lynoure: my debian box only shows version 3.8 too :-P
[07:59] <Derreck> prophet: apt-cache search blah blah
[07:59] <prophet> ogg
[07:59] <prophet> i love that ill save it
[07:59] <LeaChim> DavidJ, you don't happen to know the model of the wireless card do you, or the motherboard if it's on board?
[07:59] <helpmeee> FunnyLookinHat: alright the sound loads now :) but when I tried some cmds and the sound worked the game would crash upond entering.. so just letting you know if I have to restart the computer
[08:00] <Justin_> all this complaining about easybuntu makes me tired
[08:00] <qwertybob> Bonez56: bug fixes and stuff, so getting a newer version is pointless unless your a developer, there are builds
[08:00] <FunnyLookinHat> helpmeee, oh weird.   um........
[08:00] <prophet> how do you run a app from the comand line "xchat" without quiting out of it afer you do ctrl + z ?
[08:00] <DavidJ> Leachim: I believe it's onboard... but I don't know the model
[08:00] <Lynoure> flack: which version of Debian you have on your debian box? sid is the only one haven't the newest newest stuff, but yep, sometimes unpaid volunteers haven't had enough time or energy
[08:00] <qwerty_> AUTOMATIX RULEZ!!!!!!   EASYUBUNTU SUX!!!!!!!
[08:00] <helpmeee> FunnyLookinHat: shall I try to play rite now to see if all is well?
[08:00] <DavidJ> LeaChim: I'll check the spec sheet
[08:00] <FunnyLookinHat> helpmeee, give it a try quick
[08:01] <helpmeee> FunnyLookinHat: well if I disconnect you know why and i'll be back on ;) thanks for the help man <3
[08:01] <qwertybob> qwerty_: i wont risk it, i tried one of the two a while back
[08:01] <qwerty_> automatix worked fine for me
[08:01] <qwertybob> qwerty_: how can you be sure whats happening?
[08:01] <bimberi> prophet: if you want to run it in the background:  xchat &
[08:02] <FunnyLookinHat> helpmeee, I will be logging off soon or going to bed to be AFK
[08:02] <DavidJ> LeaChim: it's a Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
[08:02] <qwertybob> qwert_: im running 64 version so it prob dont work anyway
[08:02] <prophet> oh yeah i remember reading about that
[08:02] <Bonez56> qwertybob: ok thanks for the help :)
[08:02] <Derreck>    Channel    Window    Help                                                                                SCC
[08:02] <FunnyLookinHat> helpmeee, you can find me on here tommorow most definitely though, especially at night (it's 1am here now to give you an idea of time)
[08:02] <prophet> and howto kill processes
[08:02] <Bonez56> brb
[08:02] <LeaChim> DavidJ, ok, thanks. i'll go find out how to use that one
[08:02] <Derreck> Sorry.
[08:02] <qwertybob> good luck
[08:02] <Bonez56> thx
[08:03] <bimberi> prophet: kill <pid>.   You can find out the pid using 'ps auxw'
[08:03] <fuoco> hi, i have a question: can ubuntu remove (uninstall) packages that are no longer needed, as in dependencies that are not needed anymore etc.. ?
[08:03] <prophet> yeah i remember that
[08:03] <prophet> its cool stuff
[08:03] <helpmeee> FunnyLookinHat: eww.. it's like 10pm here :X it worked :) but there is a lag now in the sound.. like 2 or 3 seconds
[08:03] <Lynoure> flack: testing and unstable Debian version both have 4.10
[08:03] <prophet> im kinda getting the hang of it
[08:03] <bimberi> fuoco: yes, you can use deborphan for that
[08:03] <deFrysk> fuoco, yes
[08:03] <fuoco> bimberi: but it's not something that's done automatically ?
[08:03] <qwerty_> the automatix installation works just fine
[08:03] <FunnyLookinHat> helpmeee, hmm...  well at least you have some sound   : )
[08:03] <deFrysk> be cautious with using it
[08:04] <qwerty_> easyubuntu messes everything up
[08:04] <fuoco> deFrysk: me ?
[08:04] <Lynoure> fuoco: ..or debfoster, but slightly differently
[08:04] <FunnyLookinHat> helpmeee, I suppose we can troubleshoot this some more tommorow, yes?
[08:04] <deFrysk> yes
[08:04] <DavidJ> LeaChim: If you find anything, could you please PM me?
[08:04] <prophet> the only thing i cant fix is my clock sleeps going 1 hour ahead
[08:04] <bimberi> fuoco: only if you use aptitude for package management.  apt-get and synaptic don't remove obsolete dependencies automatically
[08:04] <prophet> can someone tell my why
[08:04] <helpmeee> FunnyLookinHat: or I can google or ask for help on here ;) we shall see I guess <3 thanks again
[08:04] <FunnyLookinHat> helpmeee, no problem man, have a good night
[08:05] <helpmeee> FunnyLookinHat: you to
[08:05] <fuoco> if i install for example kde (which pulls many stuff) and then decide to remove it - the deps that got pulled won't be removed ?
[08:06] <BLuNT187> Is anyone aware with the ability to connect ubuntu with a windows sytem via firewire to network them?
[08:07] <bimberi> fuoco: only if you use aptitude for installation and removal
[08:07] <fuoco> bimberi: isn't that the default on ubuntu ?
[08:08] <prophet> linux is TIGHT
[08:08] <prophet> this is all really good quality for FREE
[08:08] <bimberi> fuoco: well no, it's one of many front-ends to apt, Synaptic and apt-get are more popular
[08:08] <fuoco> bimberi: i thought synaptic uses aptitude
[08:08] <prophet> very helpful people u cant find people as helpful for windows
[08:08] <bimberi> fuoco: not afaik
[08:09] <Diegomel> hi
[08:09] <Sphearion> BLuNT187 i have a hybrid windows / linux network (cat 5e cable and a switch) it works just fine linux uses samba to connect to windows shares if that is what your asking
[08:09] <fuoco> i'm considering installing ubuntu. but i'm on an ibook and not sure if that's the best distro for ibooks (ppc)
[08:10] <BLuNT187> kinda
[08:10] <Sphearion> the best distro for an ibook would be... well mac os :)
[08:10] <bimberi> fuoco: Ubuntu is pretty good (i have a mac mini) but it's the only Linux distro i've tried
[08:10] <bimberi> (on ppc)
[08:11] <ToHellWithGA> is this the right place to express my dismay at the fact that the ubuntu store carries white t-shirts instead of brown ones?
[08:11] <Madpilot> ToHellWithGA, that sounds like it should have stayed in -offtopic :)
[08:11] <bimberi> ToHellWithGA: no, but it's too late isn't it ;P
[08:12] <ToHellWithGA> that was, um, a question about "sed" or something
[08:12] <prophet> anyone have any suggestions on my clock thing>
[08:12] <ToHellWithGA> thanks for the feeback, mad and bim
[08:12] <bll3r> hey everyone
[08:12] <bimberi> ToHellWithGA: np, any time :)
[08:12] <fuoco> when a new release of ubuntu is out it's better to just reinstall it ?
[08:13] <LeaChim> prophet, what's the problem?
[08:13] <bll3r> i think you can apt-get upgrade it
[08:13] <LeaChim> fuoco, no, just upgrade
[08:13] <prophet> its 11:13PM on my phone
[08:13] <prophet> on my computer it says 12:13
[08:13] <bimberi> fuoco: if it's feasible it's generally the best way.  However the upgrade is usually fine.
[08:13] <fuoco> LeaChim: ok, thx
[08:13] <prophet> if i set it to 11:13 and restart it will back to 12:13
[08:13] <prophet> when i look in the timezone the clostest to wher ei live is Bosie
[08:13] <fuoco> bimberi: any special reason for that ? :)
[08:13] <prophet> i live PST Oregon
[08:14] <prophet> there is no PST
[08:14] <Madpilot> prophet, it's PDT right now
[08:14] <Madpilot> prophet, look for Portland or one of the other big cities in Oregon
[08:14] <prophet> well it keeps going forward 1 hr after i restart
[08:14] !lilo:*! Not much else to figure out at this point---the times seem to match up. We're going to close it as a peering problem. We're thinking about server code improvements to make these incidents less rocky.
[08:14] <prophet> it doesnt even have oregon for a selection
[08:14] <bll3r> hey if your drive is already partioned is there anyway to add more disk storage?
[08:15] <bll3r> i only put 50 gb's for linux thinking i wouldnt use it that much, but now its all i use
[08:15] <bimberi> fuoco: well with a fresh install you are always starting from a known state
[08:15] <prophet> in that big list
[08:15] <Bonez56> bll3r: install gparted
[08:15] <LucyGirl> use Los Angeles for ur time zone ... nothing is close to Oregon ..
[08:15] <bll3r> after using linux i hate microsoftr
[08:15] <bll3r> lol
[08:15] <Bonez56> bll3r: then you can remove your windows partitions or resize them, and create new linux partitions and mount them in /usr or /home etc
[08:16] <LeaChim> prophet, it automatically synchronizes the time on startup. get the right timezone and it will go away.
[08:16] <polpak> LucyGirl: Vancouver is closer than LA
[08:16] <bll3r> yea i think ik mgoing to do that
[08:16] <helpmeee> can someone help me?
[08:16] <prophet>  makes sence :)
[08:16] <bll3r> the only time i ever go on my windows side is when i wanna watch tv
[08:16] <Madpilot> prophet, either LA or Vancouver are in your timezone
[08:16] <prophet> yeah
[08:16] <bll3r> i cant figure out how to get my tv card working
[08:16] <Bonez56> bll3r: the only thing that sucks is you can't resize existing ex3 partitions, so you will just have to create new ones
[08:16] <LucyGirl> ok ...
[08:16] <prophet> thanks
[08:16] <prophet> aha
[08:16] <polpak> bll3r: I use linux for watching tv myself
[08:16] <poisonmel> i don't have a linux box near by, but can someone tell me if the Webcore Fonts(Verdana, etc) are installed on most linux computers browing the internet?
[08:16] <poisonmel> by default
[08:16] <Madpilot> prophet, Boise is in Mountain TZ, that's why you're an hour out
[08:16] <bll3r> hm
[08:16] <Bonez56> I have a dvico fusion dvb-t card but i have not attempted to get it working yet... :/ poor tv signal in my area so i don't use it anyway
[08:17] <Madpilot> poisonmel, no
[08:17] <prophet> i got it thanks
[08:17] <bll3r> i wonder why i cant get mine to work
[08:17] <bll3r> it kind of sucks
[08:17] <Madpilot> poisonmel, certainly not by default - those are MS fonts
[08:17] <bll3r> because thats the only thing i use windows for
[08:17] <bll3r> that and MS word
[08:17] <LucyGirl> Just trying to set the clock, not argue geography
[08:17] <fuoco> can i find information somewhere on the way ubuntu installs by default - filesystems, partitioning, lvm...?
[08:18] <Bonez56> bll3r: what sort of tv card do you have?
[08:18] <bll3r> hauppauge
[08:18] <LeaChim> prophet, you ok now?
[08:18] <Bonez56> bll3r: love to help but never heard of it!
[08:18] <bll3r> (i think thats the right spelling)
[08:18] <bll3r> damn its ok
[08:18] <Bonez56> bll3r: try google
[08:18] <bll3r> im in school learning unix maybe ill ask my teacher tomorrow
[08:19] <bll3r> yea i tried that bonez
[08:19] <Bonez56> ok
[08:19] <Bonez56> good luck
[08:19] <bll3r> right now im doing shell scripiting
[08:19] <bll3r> very interesting
[08:19] <knoppix> hi all... last nigt I manage my partition using partition magic, and then endup with error 17 on the GRUB. I've try reinstall GRUB, but when "setup (hd0,5) I got error 12:invalid device requested. anyone can help?
[08:19] <Bonez56> what grade are you in?
[08:19] <bll3r> well no grade really
[08:19] <bll3r> its college
[08:19] <Bonez56> ahh ok :)
[08:19] <polpak> bll3r: I use hauppauge tuners for my mythtv box
[08:19] <bll3r> the college i goto is a tech school so im out in 13 months with a AD
[08:20] <enyc> knoppix: erm.... hd(0,5)  may not be valid
[08:20] <prophet> yeah im fine thanks for being to patient
[08:20] <bll3r> mythtv?
[08:20] <prophet> so*
[08:20] <enyc> knoppix: maybe (hd0,[something else] ) now
[08:20] <Bonez56> Myth TV is the software you use to watch tv
[08:20] <polpak> bll3r: it's a PVR program (for recording tv shows etc)
[08:20] <LucyGirl> knoppix, partition magic does not like linux  ... it made a mess of my drive
[08:20] <knoppix> enyc: i got hd0,5 from command find /boot/grub/stage1 in the grub
[08:21] <enyc> knoppix: note that (hd0) refers to whatever is the fist BIOS-supported disk at boot-time....
[08:21] <enyc> knoppix: note that grub partiton numbors do NOT directly relate to linux partition numbers (hda1 hda2 etc.)
[08:22] <bll3r> Package mythtv has no installation candidate
[08:22] <bll3r> damn
[08:22] <LucyGirl> knoppix, what r u trying to do ... set up dual boot?
[08:22] <polpak> bll3r: that's because it's broken into several packages
[08:22] <abo> is there any text editor in linux that can select vertically, (like ultra edit in windows)?
[08:22] <enyc> knoppix: well maybe hthat used to be the linux boot partition in the past.... but it you have moved with PQMAGIC....
[08:22] <polpak> !info mythtv
[08:22] <polpak> hrm no ubotu?
[08:22] <bimberi> polpak: aye :|
[08:23] <bll3r> thats what im using
[08:23] <prophet> my windows kinda drag is there a way to check if i have the right driver for my 9800pro
[08:23] <bll3r> ubuntu
[08:23] <knoppix> LucyGirl: i've dualboot longtime. and i just wanna change the partition size
[08:23] <abo> knoppix, I had same issue, apparently partition magic change the names of the partitions
[08:23] <polpak> bll3r:  use synaptic and search for myth
[08:23] <polpak> bll3r: there are several packages in the universe repos
[08:23] <polpak> bll3r: but you first need to install the hauppauge drivers
[08:23] <bll3r> yea i think i should do my research first
[08:24] <bll3r> then ill mess around with it
[08:24] <bll3r> im new to this linux stuff, i got everything else working except for this
[08:24] <knoppix> well guys.. thanks for now.. i got to go.. brb ;-)
[08:24] <abo> knoppix, basically what happens, /boot/group/menu.lst will be still contain old partition names/numbers and thus grub can't mount and load, error 17 means couldn't mount partition
[08:24] <LucyGirl> knoppix, maybe somebody in the group can help .. I don't like Symantec ... they made a mess of my drive
[08:24] <redblades> Hi, is it possible from within Ubuntu to make an up to date install CD?
[08:24] <polpak> bll3r: there are several howtos if you google mythtv tutorial
[08:25] <enyc> redblades: not that I know of... .however there is a project/idea to make 'point release' cds in dapper
[08:25] <JimmyDoDangle> Tons of people here.
[08:25] <redblades> Is in, make a sn install CD, with the current Kernel program versions etc?
[08:25] <enyc> JimmyDoDangle: aah yes so there are ;-)
[08:25] <redblades> Ah... I see...
[08:25] <enyc> redblades: yes... that is a point-release
[08:25] <enyc> redblades: like debian have
[08:25] <abo> is there any text editor that can do vertical selection for linux (same as ultra edit in windows)?
[08:26] <Derreck> People? Where? People scare me.
[08:26] <skavenge> anyone here have amarok installed in gnome?
[08:26] <knoppix> LucyGirl: thanks.. i'll try letter.. got to go now
[08:26] <Hit3k> http://pastebin.ca/93133 can someone help me fix those errors?
[08:26] <polpak> abo: yeah, I've been looking for that feature too. Nobody seems to have it
[08:26] <LucyGirl> knoppix, bye and good luck.
[08:26] <redblades> But, can you make it from Ubuntu? Or does one download it.
[08:26] <bll3r> what is the difference between gnome and kde?
[08:26] <abo> knoppix, I thought you left, I may be able to help
[08:27] <redblades> bll3r, the looks, the code
[08:27] <redblades> the functioning
[08:27] <bll3r> oh
[08:27] <bll3r> ok
[08:27] <helpmeee> can someone help me with a sound issue?
[08:27] <JimmyDoDangle> The whole Gnome vs. KDE debate is quite a big one.  They're very similar, and very different.  The only way to really know the difference is to try both.
[08:27] <polpak> bll3r: there are stylistic differences.. KDE is supposed to be more customizable, Gnome is supposed to be more consistant (standard menus between apps etc) but in general they are intended to do the same things
[08:27] <bll3r> ubuntu is gnome right
[08:27] <JimmyDoDangle> Yes.
[08:27] <JimmyDoDangle> And Kubuntu is KDE.
[08:28] <bll3r> no shit
[08:28] <bll3r> thanks
[08:28] <polpak> !language
[08:28] <redblades> I personally love Gnome, and find KDE a bit too "in-your-face" but other people love it, so it's a personal thing.
[08:28] <polpak> ergh
[08:28] <bll3r> shit man i think im gonna come in here more often
[08:28] <bll3r> you can learn a lot
[08:28] <redblades> O RLY
[08:28] <polpak> bll3r: you can actually try kde on your vanilla ubuntu system also
[08:28] <bimberi> Hit3k: looks like an issue with your sources.list - put it on a pastebin too
[08:28] <JimmyDoDangle> I used KDE for many, many years, before I finally gave Gnome an honest try.  I installed it and used it exclusively for a week.  Once I gave it an honest try I loved it, and have been using it ever since.
[08:29] <polpak> bll3r: if you use aptitude to install kubuntu-desktop you can choose if you want gnome or kde on the login screen
[08:29] <redblades> How do I check if both my HD are being used?
[08:29] <redblades> I think the Gnome one is WAY better.
[08:29] <redblades> the KDE login screen is pretty dull.
[08:29] <redblades> Unless you can change it... Can you?
[08:29] <polpak> I also prefer gnome and gnome apps. But there's one app I don't have a replacement for yet
[08:30] <polpak> well 2 actually
[08:30] <Hit3k> bimberi, http://pastebin.ca/93137
[08:30] <redblades> Which?
[08:30] <polpak> smb4k and qgo
[08:30] <JimmyDoDangle> I think you can change it, yes redblades.
[08:30] <bimberi> Hit3k: line 6 needs "dapper " before main (like the line above)
[08:30] <JimmyDoDangle> Just like you can change the one on Gnome.
[08:31] <DavidJ> I'm having trouble fixing the resolution of my laptop... I need it to be 1440x900 at 60 hz
[08:31] <polpak> DavidJ: what video card?
[08:31] <Hit3k> oh
[08:31] <redblades> polpak, I'm not familiar with those... Also, I like KDE, but I wish it could work without all the KDE sh1t is grabs with it.
[08:31] <polpak> DavidJ: or chipset
[08:32] <DavidJ> polpak: give me a moment
[08:32] <JimmyDoDangle> Well I'm out for now guys.  First time in the room.  It looks interesting, I might have to come back sometime.
[08:32] <DavidJ> polpak Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 (128MB shared)
[08:32] <Hit3k> bimberi, that should fix it
[08:33] <bimberi> Hit3k: fingers crossed :)
[08:33] <polpak> DavidJ: well, do you use the CRT or svideo out ports?
[08:33] <DavidJ> not currently but I would like the option
[08:35] <phpError> Hey, does anyone have a link to the Firefox Flash plugin (latest version) for Ubuntu 6.06?
[08:35] <prophet> thanks for all the help guys im going to sleep bye
[08:35] <polpak> DavidJ: well I've had success with correcting laptop resolutions by using the 915resolution package but when I do that it generally makes the resolution unusable for a dual head display
[08:35] <polpak> DavidJ: I've not found a solution yet
[08:36] <phpError> Someone has to know :S
[08:36] <phpError> Hey, does anyone have a link to the Firefox Flash plugin (latest version) for Ubuntu 6.06?
[08:36] <polpak> phpError: stop spamming. the flash plugin is in the repos, but it's just flash 7. there is not flash 8 for linux yet
[08:36] <bimberi> phpError: install flashplugin-nonfree from multiverse
[08:37] <phpError> Okay.
[08:37] <Hit3k> its worked thanks bimberi
[08:37] <phpError> bimberi: How do i do it from multiverse? :S
[08:37] <bimberi> Hit3k: phew, np ;)
[08:37] <phpError> I'm sorta new to Linux,
[08:38] <bahadirt> goodmorning guys
[08:38] <bimberi> phpError: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[08:38] <bahadirt> I try to install avg antivirus on ubuntu but I dont know which file to download. flm flr or fls
[08:38] <bahadirt> ?
[08:39] <Bonez56> bahadirt: ?
[08:39] <bll3r87> is it a good idea to install a virus scanner?
[08:39] <bll3r87> or should it be allset?
[08:40] <bahadirt> should I leave the pc unprotected ?
[08:40] <bahadirt> it will act as a mail server
[08:40] <bahadirt> hopefully :)
[08:40] <sysdoc> DavidJ, 1440x900 probably need a modline entry in the xorg.conf
[08:40] <bahadirt> when I properly config postfix
[08:40] <Bonez56> if you are running a mailserver then you can install clamav
[08:40] <Bonez56> other than that there is no need for av software
[08:41] <adamant1988> hey is anyone here really good with wifi problems?
[08:41] <polpak> !anyone
[08:41] <polpak> argh.. ubotu come back
[08:42] <adamant1988> it must be nice having a bot speak for you
[08:42] <DavidJ> sysdoc: I have no idea what that is
[08:42] <adamant1988> but you could just answer me and save the time of trying to make me feel ignorant.
[08:42] <Derreck> adamant1988: I'm great at making wifi problems, probably one of the best :)
[08:43] <adamant1988> thanks Derreck,  I'm using wifi radar to try to connect to a WLan but it won't connect... it's finding the connection and configureing everything ok, but no connection
[08:43] <colk> adamant1988, you could actually ask what the problem is
[08:43] <CyDrive> Hello can someone help me with wine when i try to install a program or run winecfg i get this error Unknown device ID 3150, please report. Assuming plain R300.
[08:43] <Derreck> adamant: Sorry I was just trying to be funny. Wifi and myself don't get along.
[08:44] <adamant1988> -_-
[08:44] <sysdoc> DaveyJ, http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl <check that out
[08:44] <adamant1988> ok then... Can anyone help with that problem? would a different program help things or no?
[08:45] <adamant1988> the hardware I'm using to connect with is supposedly very linux friendly (belkin Wireless G USB adapter)
[08:45] <CyDrive> adamant why dont you just connect through the networing options?
[08:45] <LucyGirl> adamant1988, i don't know if i can help .. had same prob and it was firmware issue
[08:45] <sysdoc> DaveyJ, I had to set a modeline in xorg.conf on this laptop in FC4
[08:46] <MystaMax> does anyone know if the mysql-admin GUI tool in the repositories is the application that MySQL wrote themselves and is available on their webiste?
[08:46] <LucyGirl> adamant1988, do u know if belkin uses Broadcom chip set?
[08:46] <adamant1988> uhm, not sure but I can look under the hardware thing and see
[08:47] <LucyGirl> go for it
[08:47] <bahadirt> bonex
[08:47] <adamant1988> it doesn't say
[08:47] <bahadirt> bonez : ok mate. I download clamav now
[08:47] <sysdoc> MystaMax, http://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/index.php
[08:47] <adamant1988> it identified it as belkin
[08:47] <adamant1988> that's it
[08:48] <adamant1988> also when I run iwconfig it informs me that no network interfaces are found
[08:48] <bahadirt> I failed to set up an internet connection
[08:48] <bahadirt> system recognizes the network adapter (pci)
[08:48] <bahadirt> but still there is something wrong
[08:48] <bahadirt> I swicth to dhcp
[08:48] <bahadirt> to obtain an automatic ip
[08:50] <LucyGirl> adamant1988, that is the firmware symtom ... the drivers are there u just can't connect.
[08:50] <adamant1988> is there a fix lucygirl?
[08:50] <LucyGirl> just a sec .. let me give u the cookbook solution I used .. it is very tidy
[08:51] <adamant1988> great thanks :)
[08:54] <kintaro0e> hi everyone.. whats the problem with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18413
[08:54] <polpak> kintaro0e: you probably need universe and multiverse enabled
[08:55] <kintaro0e> polpak: how?
[08:55] <polpak> use source o matic to configure your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:55] <seraphimpan> 'Ning all...  Any gvimmers out there?
[08:55] <knapp> source o matic?
[08:55] <polpak> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:56] <knapp> hm
[08:56] <polpak> it will generate a sources.list for you to replace yours with
[08:56] <kintaro0e> polpak..ok
[08:56] <LucyGirl> adamant, read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[08:57] <adamant1988> thank you
[08:57] <DavidJ> how do i find my Dot Clock Frequency?
[08:58] <seraphimpan> Gvim's command line disappears behind the taskbar when the window's maximised in Breezy.  Any ideas, anyone?
[09:02] <ruxpin^> please, how do I run ntp-client?
[09:02] <ruxpin^> DavidJ: cat /proc/cpuinfo << is this what you mean?
[09:04] <DavidJ> Dot Clock Frequency is how fast pixels are drawn on your screen in mhz
[09:06] <sstchur> I have latop running windows that I royally screwed up.  I want to salvage my data, so I booted unbuntu live in order to mount the ntfs partition.  It worked, but I can't cd to the mounted folder.  Any ideas why?
[09:07] <Silentread> did u put a space in the name?
[09:08] <sstchur>      Silentread, no I don't think so.  I did   sudo mount /dev/hda5 /media/xp
[09:08] <Silentread> ok
[09:08] <sstchur> and it mounted successfully.  I can sudo ls /media/xp/
[09:08] <sstchur> and see my folders
[09:08] <sstchur> but I cannot do:  cd /media/xp
[09:08] <Silentread> alright
[09:08] <sstchur> I get permission denied
[09:08] <Silentread> try sudo cd /media/xp
[09:09] <sstchur> i tried that... and it say....
[09:09] <Silentread> or try doing so fromt eh root console
[09:09] <sstchur> wait i can't remember, lemme try again
[09:09] <colk> sstchur, because its mounted read only as root
[09:09] <ruxpin^> sstchur: pass umask=000 to the mount command
[09:09] <colk> your going to have to do all the commands using sudo
[09:09] <ruxpin^> mount -o umask=000
[09:09] <sstchur> ruxpin:  so like sudo mount /dev/hda5 -o umask=000 /media/xp
[09:09] <nik> Hi, I can't get my Buffalo G54 wlan card working. Any help?
[09:09] <sstchur> ?
[09:09] <ruxpin^> yes
[09:10] <indieross> hello i have a question
[09:10] <sstchur> ruxpin:  awesome, that did it
[09:10] <colk> indieross, well just ask it
[09:10] <colk> :P
[09:10] <indieross> i was wondering how to edit the fstab file in kubuntu
[09:10] <sstchur> ruxpin, so what does umask=000 indicate?
[09:10] <alehop> hi
[09:11] <frogzoo> indieross: sudo vi /etc/fstab
[09:11] <ruxpin^> sstchur: that it'll get 777 permissions
[09:11] <indieross> i tried gksudo gedit /ect/fstab but it wont work
[09:11] <lewbing> dli,Are you free now,i am re-install ubuntu6.06 again,the problem has return.
[09:11] <frogzoo> indieross: why not? that should do it
[09:11] <mat> hi howdo i start nm-applet
[09:12] <indieross> it just says new file when i use the sudo vi
[09:12] <indieross> i need to edit the current file
[09:12] <bastl> Hi, I want to build a customized ubuntu LiveCD with xfce instead of gnome. Any ideas where i can get help/ressources to do that?
[09:13] <indieross> by the way im useing kubuntu
[09:13] <indieross> any ideas
[09:13] <indieross> ?
[09:14] <colk> Programs Accessories Terminal
[09:14] <colk> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[09:14] <indieross> hmm it keeps bringing up a blank file
[09:15] <bastl> indi: ls -l /etc/fstab ?
[09:15] <alehop> ?
[09:15] <indieross> dosent work
[09:15] <bastl> your information is sparse ..
[09:15] <mat> how do i start nmapplet, Network Manager. it is isnalkled
[09:16] <indieross> sorry
[09:16] <Madpilot> bastl, there is a Xubuntu liveCD already - Ubuntu w/ XFCE
[09:16] <indieross> it wont recognise the file or directory
[09:16] <bastl> madpilot: tx
[09:17] <deFrysk> there is no xubuntu live cd as far as I know
[09:17] <deFrysk> but i could be wrong
[09:17] <deFrysk> and usually am :s
[09:17] <bastl> madpilot: i never thought which windowmanager xubuntu would use ...
[09:18] <deFrysk> xubuntu used gdm
[09:18] <Madpilot> deFrysk, yes there is, I use it regularly :)
[09:18] <deFrysk> Madpilot, oki :)
[09:19] <deFrysk> works better for me
[09:19] <SogniX> is there a way to force a drive controler to be /dev/hda? I installed an ATA PCI card to have more storage drives, and now Ubuntu will not boot as it reassigned the mobo's controllers/drives to be secondary (/dev/hde-f), and the PCI card as primary (/dev/hda-b)
[09:19] <sertmann> how do i reconfigure the locale setting from buttom up? get "locale not supported by c" all the time, even though it's set to en_GB, packages are installed, and i've done a reconfigure of the locale in dpkg :(
[09:20] <colk> SogniX, probly need to change boot offboard controller in cmos
[09:20] <SogniX> I didn't see an option to do that
[09:20] <Ninja> hey, Whats a good program to learn python in or any coding
[09:20] <Sphearion> what package might I find a translucent terminal in for gnome (rxvt?)
[09:20] <telmich> moin!
[09:20] <colk> SogniX, should be in advanced options
[09:21] <frogzoo> Sphearion: gnome-terminal
[09:21] <colk> or where the ide controllers are selected
[09:21] <telmich> when I login through kdm, is there any file in my home directory I could use to tell kdm to start ssh-agent <my wm>?
[09:21] <telmich> startx reads .xinitrc
[09:21] <telmich> but I do not think kdm does
[09:21] <Sphearion> thanks
[09:22] <hangfire> Ninja, there is a program called guido von robot that teaches the basic concepts of programming a robot through a maze
[09:22] <hangfire> using python
[09:22] <Ninja> hangfire, u know where i can get it from
[09:22] <frogzoo> Ninja: find a program you like, then download the source & try to understand it
[09:23] <hangfire> go to the programming section of add/remove programs
[09:23] <Sphearion> where is a place to find wallpapers - im tired of the mud colored one that comes with ubuntu :)
[09:23] <Ninja> frogzoo, well i dunno what a good program to start coding in wuld be
[09:23] <frogzoo> Sphearion: gnome.org ?
[09:23] <hangfire> python is a good one to start with
[09:23] <hangfire> and its already installed in ubuntu by default
[09:23] <a2xm> hi.. i'm the one ask about fixing GRUB 30mnt ago ;-)
[09:24] <Ninja> hangfire, ...what shuld i look for again?
[09:24] <frogzoo> !themes > Sphearion
[09:24] <itten> ubuntu rulezz!
[09:24] <hangfire> just a sec, Ill find the exact name
[09:24] <colk> ubotu is dead i belive
[09:25] <frogzoo> !wakeup
[09:25] <frogzoo> :(
[09:25] <Sphearion> he dead... :(
[09:25] <hyperstream> !bz2
[09:25] <Ninja> hangfire, can i apt-get install gvr?
[09:25] <frogzoo> Sphearion: install pkg 'gnome-art' - then prefs -> art manager
[09:26] <hangfire> why not just use add/remove programs to install it?
[09:26] <alehop> hi, i've got a problem installing java-access-bridge. any help?
[09:26] <frogzoo> Ninja: I think everyone should start with C, but that's just an opinion
[09:26] <Kanpachi> hello, i just installed xgl and my gnome menu disppeared, how can i access the terminal or the run command?
[09:27] <a2xm> anyone can help me w/ a broken GRUB because of partition magic?
[09:27] <diego> is there a package for install autoconf, automake, etc, etc, etc? for build packages
[09:27] <Ninja> frogzoo, well im just gettin started..and i want a basic knowledge
[09:27] <Flannel> diego: build-essential
[09:27] <Sphearion> kanpachi ctrl-alt + f2 then ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to ui
[09:27] <hangfire> C is a great language that is never taught well, Java is really the best first language, especially if your a self learner
[09:27] <Kanpachi> ui?
[09:27] <Kanpachi> no no i don't want the alt+crl console
[09:27] <Kanpachi> i want the terminal in x
[09:27] <Flannel> Kanpachi: believe alt-f2 brings up a run dialog.  But yeah, ctrl-alt-f# will get you a tty
[09:27] <hangfire> here is the website for GvR http://directory.fsf.org/education/program/GvR.html
[09:28] <hyperstream> checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[09:28] <hyperstream> ?
[09:28] <Flannel> hyperstream: you need build-essential
[09:29] <dcnstrct> hi.  I'm trying to install the latest ubuntu.  I have two drives both IDE.  The first drive has win XP and I'm installing ubuntu on the 2nd drive.  The install went well, when configuring grub it found my XP drive and offered to install grub in the MBR on it, I said "sure do it".  Well it looks like it didn't work.  For some reason my PC goes straight into XP.  Any suggestions ? I'm assuming I need to install grub manually somehow
[09:29] <Sphearion> frogzoo    E: Couldn't find the package gnome-art
[09:29] <alehop> somebody got ERROR in AccessibleImpl.java installing java-access-bridge??
[09:29] <hangfire> g++ is the default C++ compiler in ubuntu
[09:29] <Flannel> dcnstrct: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows that should be what you're looking for
[09:29] <hyperstream> ahhh
[09:29] <hyperstream> thanks
[09:29] <leeyee> Hi guys!
[09:29] <colk> sweet cant wait until the end of the month
[09:30] <colk> amd is dropping a ton od athlon 64 prices
[09:30] <diego> build-essential won't install autoconf, automake, etc
[09:30] <diego> err, autoconf
[09:30] <alehop> anybody got ERROR in AccessibleImpl.java installing java-access-bridge??
[09:30] <leeyee> I want a website about science applications under linux
[09:30] <leeyee> anyone can help me?
[09:30] <leeyee> Or about engineering software
[09:30] <hangfire> with what?
[09:30] <dcnstrct> flannel, thnx
[09:31] <bla|patrick> hi
[09:31] <leeyee> I want a website about science applications under linux
[09:31] <frogzoo> Sphearion: dapper? multivierse/universe enabled?
[09:31] <frogzoo> !info gnome-art
[09:31] <frogzoo> d'oh
[09:31] <Flannel> diego: it will.
[09:31] <leeyee> I'm writing a paper
[09:31] <bla|patrick> finally found mplayerplginin
[09:31] <bla|patrick> its in debian
[09:32] <bla|patrick> can i isntall it to ubuntu without risk?
[09:32] <hangfire> leeyee- just go to the eductional part of apt-get and look at all thats availble
[09:32] <bla|patrick> mplayerplugin > 2.17.x (!!)
[09:32] <Flannel> bla|patrick: debian packages aren't necessarily compatable with ubuntu
[09:32] <bla|patrick> hmmm
[09:32] <bla|patrick> well then
[09:32] <leeyee> well, I don't need applications themselves, but some articles talking about that
[09:32] <bla|patrick> could someone explain me how to compile it myself
[09:33] <bla|patrick> i am a total noob with that
[09:33] <bla|patrick> and the describtions on that mplayer page are rather vague....
[09:33] <alehop> anybody got ERROR in AccessibleImpl.java installing java-access-bridge?
 I just want some articles about it
[09:34] <Flannel> leeyee: you might try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic, that would be a better place.
[09:34] <Flannel> leeyee: or, #linux even
[09:34] <hangfire> well I wouldnt know where to start looking because there is scientific linux software for every imaginable field
[09:34] <leeyee> ohh..okay
[09:34] <flack> Anyone: Hey I installed xgl, and now direct rendering doesn't work. Any ideas?
[09:34] <leeyee> thanks!
[09:34] <Flannel> flack: #ubuntu-xgl for XGL related support please
[09:34] <Flannel> bla|patrick: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[09:35] <flack> Flannel: Ah, sorry! :-P
[09:36] <Orion-Coder> I'm bored
[09:36] <Orion-Coder> what server is liek vb.net channels on?
[09:36] <alehop> anybody got: ERROR in AccessibleImpl.java installing java-access-bridge?
[09:37] <akdmia> when you get that error ????
[09:37] <alehop> when i make: sudo make
[09:37] <RShadow> Ok.. I create one package with checkinstall (apache 2.2.2) and everything went fine.. however I'm tryint to do the same thing with PHP but it won't install because it says its trying to overwrite the httpd.conf that is part of the apache install.. how do I fix this?
[09:37] <cu83> can someone help me setup PHP5 with apache locally?
[09:37] <bla|patrick> Flannel: DRI is used by games, e.g.?
[09:37] <akdmia> this is all error ???
[09:38] <Flannel> bla|patrick: I have no idea what youre talking about ;)
[09:38] <akdmia> don;t you have a stacktrace ?
[09:38] <alehop> 1. ERROR in AccessibleImpl.java
[09:38] <alehop>  (at line 26)
[09:38] <alehop>         public class AccessibleImpl extends UnknownImpl implements AccessibleOperations {
[09:38] <alehop>                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[09:38] <alehop> The type AccessibleImpl must implement the inherited abstract method AccessibleOperations.getAttributes()
[09:38] <bla|patrick> Flannel: that direct rendering doesnt work post above
[09:38] <alehop> that is the error
[09:38] <Flannel> alehop: don't paste in here please
[09:38] <bla|patrick> i am still new and wondering whats it used for
[09:38] <bla|patrick> am in xgl too and didnt missed it so far :D
[09:38] <Flannel> cu83: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:38] <alehop> ok
[09:39] <akdmia> this file.. java is incomplete
[09:39] <Deepsight> Hello ppl, does anybody works with libmysql++-dev ? i have a newbie problem, i get mysql++.h not such file
[09:39] <akdmia> needs to implements  all methods off AccesibleOperations
[09:40] <sophie_marshall> anyone used vmware before here?
[09:40] <alehop> and how could i do that?
[09:40] <RShadow> eh forget.. checkinstall is evil.. I'm defaulting back to make install
[09:40] <Flannel> alehop: it's a problem with that software, you should contact the developers about a fix.
[09:40] <akdmia> Flannel has right
[09:40] <akdmia> you need post a bug
[09:41] <bla|patrick> about compiling: it doesnt work... that faq on that mplayer page links to dead pages for basic requirements :|
[09:41] <bla|patrick> and in the repos is nohting
[09:41] <Flannel> RShadow: any particular reason youre not just using the binary debs?
[09:41] <alehop> ok. I understand.
[09:41] <RShadow> Flannel, because there outdated
[09:41] <akdmia> or edit AccesibleImpl.. to add the empty methods,, and test if works
[09:41] <Sphearion> is there a way to mount a samba share like its a native drive like in windows?
[09:41] <Sphearion> nevermind
[09:42] <hangfire> RShadow- is that you, the guy from 3DBuzz.com?
[09:42] <alehop> or  I can download again the same package
[09:42] <akdmia> maybe... you can check your java version
[09:42] <RShadow> hangfire, yes
[09:42] <alehop> 'cause add the empty methods could be too complicate
[09:43] <Wudung> hey, i have a problem with Ubuntu, can anyone help me?
[09:43] <akdmia> maybe.. the soft id developed with other version you trying to make..and has a different classes
[09:43] <hangfire> cool, I thought you were just an Gentoo guy, are you from Korea or just living there?
[09:43] <eXistenZ> hangfire, why "an"?
[09:43] <hangfire> "an"?
[09:43] <cu83> Flannel, I've tried that page but when i try to load localhost/test.php it doesn't work
[09:43] <eXistenZ> hangfire, "thought you were just an Gentoo guy"
[09:43] <Flannel> cu83: what doesn't work?
[09:43] <RShadow> hangfire, ya, I prefer Gentoo for just this reason (tyring to install anything outside of a repo is a pain in the @#$) but for this server I don't have a choice).. just here in Korea for the job..
[09:44] <hangfire> whoops, your right Flannel
[09:44] <bla|patrick> and that debian package demands newer libs compared to breezys
[09:44] <bla|patrick> :|
[09:44] <cu83> when i goto localhost/test.php(my test file) mozilla asks me if i want to download it but it doesn't execute iti
[09:44] <Flannel> bla|patrick: yep.  Like I said, debian and ubuntu packages aren't compatable.
[09:45] <bla|patrick> well and compiling doent work either
[09:45] <bla|patrick> or das breezy come with mozilla devel packages?
[09:45] <bla|patrick> in synaptic i couldnt find them
[09:45] <Flannel> cu83: alright, go to /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ do you see a php5.conf?
[09:45] <RShadow> and dependencies are insane.. for the life of me I can't figure out why postfix is a required dependency for just about anything mail related.. if I want mutt.. I have to install postfix.. why postfix is married to anything mail related is beyond me
[09:45] <DavidJ> hey... when installing windows xp is there any way to get your SATA drivers set up without a floppy drive?
[09:45] <Wudung> Can anyone help me? My apt-get doesn't work, I can't use the Synaptic Package Manager, and i get an error when i try to open the Update Manager. I'm running Ubuntu Breezy.
[09:45] <hangfire> RShadow- what do you think of FreeBSD? They did a lot for the Linux utility cause
[09:45] <Flannel> DavidJ: this is #ubuntu, you might try #windows
[09:46] <cu83> Flannel, yep
[09:46] <skorm> Wudung: Have you got another instance running?
[09:46] <bobulooo> I have 3 hard drives in my machine and I'm trying to figure out which is which in grub.  Two ide drives (hda and hdb) and one SATA drive (sda).  Is there a way to figure out the mapping in grub?
[09:46] <RShadow> hangfire, FreeBSD is cool.. but thats why we have Gentoo.. freebsd for Linux... on sterioids :)
[09:46] <Wudung> instance of Ubuntu? no
[09:46] <x-Dieu> howdy world (;
[09:46] <Wudung> its been doing this since i installed it.
[09:46] <linux17> ghgyhghg
[09:46] <skorm> Wudung: no, of the package manger, you can only run one package manger at a time
[09:46] <linux17> hkkj
[09:46] <linux17> khjkh
[09:46] <linux17> jkkj
[09:46] <linux17> ff
[09:46] <linux17> f
[09:46] <linux17> f
[09:46] <linux17> ff
[09:46] <linux17> f
[09:46] <Flannel> cu83: open it can you paste the contents to a pastebin? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[09:46] <linux17> f
[09:46] <Lynoure> !ops
[09:47] <linux17> f
[09:47] <linux17> f
[09:47] <linux17> f
[09:47] <LoRez> Warning: `linux17' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[09:47] <cu83> Flannel, k lemmie post it
[09:47] <Wudung> no, that's not the problem. It almost seems as if my connection to the repositories doesn't work, but my internet works fine with everything else
[09:48] <noiesmo> whats the fast most light pdf reader
[09:48] <skorm> Wudung: can you please go in terminal "sudo apt-get update"
[09:48] <frogzoo> noiesmo: acroread
[09:48] <cu83> Flannel, K it's loaded
[09:49] <Flannel> cu83: what's the url ;)
[09:49] <cu83> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18419
[09:49] <cu83> =P
[09:49] <noiesmo> frogzoo, thats 54mb install no thanks
[09:49] <skorm> Wudung: What did it say?
[09:49] <Wudung> just a sec
[09:49] <hangfire> RShadow- If youre up to it, Id like to ask you stuff on ubuntu-offtopic
[09:49] <noiesmo> frogzoo, looks like xpdf then
[09:50] <redblades> linux17, what a wanker.
[09:50] <redblades> XD
[09:50] <skorm> lol @ redblades
[09:50] <RShadow> hangfire, I can in about an hour.. I have to finish setting this server up first
[09:50] <hangfire> ok
[09:50] <Flannel> cu83: alright, in that same folder, is there a php5.load?
[09:50] <redblades> @? or with?
[09:50] <cu83> Flannel, yep pastebin it?
[09:50] <skorm> lol at redblades
[09:50] <redblades> Why? he was being a dickhead.
[09:51] <skorm> Just the way you said it
[09:51] <skorm> and you were the only one to say, but we all thought it
[09:51] <redblades> That's what I meant by "with"
[09:51] <redblades> Har!
[09:51] <Flannel> cu83: nah, if it exists, it's fine.  I'll need you to paste.. /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default though
[09:51] <dan_> hi
[09:51] <dan_> hi, all
[09:51] <dan_> my first time xchat
[09:51] <skorm> hi dan_
[09:52] <skorm> dan_: scared?
[09:52] <dan_> not really
[09:52] <dan_> i just installed a new ubuntu606
[09:52] <hommik> I had ubuntu once, like 15minutes or something (:
[09:52] <skorm> dan_: you should move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:52] <cu83> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18421
[09:53] <CaptainMorgan> in GAIM how do I remove someone from blocked status?
[09:53] <skorm> CaptainMorgan: its under security settings or somthing
[09:53] <dan_> ok, i will try talk some ontopic stuff ...
[09:53] <dan_> so , what's the topic here ?
[09:53] <skorm> dan_: surrport
[09:53] <skorm> just helping people
[09:53] <dan_> o, yeah, i need it
[09:54] <Flannel> dan_: this is an ubuntu help/support channel, for general chatter, you're welcome to join #ubuntu-offtopic and join in on the fun!
[09:54] <Seveas> caplink811_log, tools  privacy
[09:54] <dan_> i started to run automix 5 hours before
[09:54] <dan_> but why it still running now ?
[09:54] <Seveas> dan_, automatix is a piece of junk
[09:54] <cu83> Flannel, does it look alright?
[09:54] <Seveas> please don't use it
[09:54] <cu83> shouldn't the stock install work
[09:54] <CaptainMorgan> skorm:  I don't see anything labelled 'security'
[09:54] <cu83> ?
[09:55] <Seveas> CaptainMorgan, tools  privacy
[09:55] <skorm> Seveas: thats the one
[09:55] <Orion-Coder> Hey who here knows TomB like where he lives and stuff?
[09:55] <dan_> seveas, so how can I install those stuff automaticlly ?
[09:55] <Orion-Coder> I'm amking sure he is the right guy
[09:55] <skorm> dan_: using apt-get
[09:55] <Flannel> cu83: yeah, it does.  Sorry, how about apache2.conf, in /etc/apache2/ (sorry been a while since Ive done apache stuff)
[09:55] <CaptainMorgan> t Seveas thanks
[09:55] <Seveas> dan_, it's not harder to manually install it via synaptic or gnome-app-install
[09:56] <dan_> seveas, u know i followed the faq to install java,
[09:56] <cu83> Flannel, no prob thanks for the help i'll pastebin it
[09:56] <dan_> by apt-get
[09:56] <Seveas> plus, it won't wreck your systm like automatix does
[09:56] <dan_> but my system tell me there is no such package ?
[09:56] <CaptainMorgan> nice feature that block..
[09:57] <cu83> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18422
[09:57] <akdmia> apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[09:58] <polpak> dan_:  you need to add the universe and multiverse repositories
[09:58] <akdmia> what version of ubuntu are you using
[09:58] <frogzoo> !anything
[09:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[09:59] <dan_> poppak, how to do that please ?
[09:59] <Seveas> dan_, the easiest way: applications  add remove, search for java runtime and tick the "sun java 5.0 runtime" box
[09:59] <Seveas> it doesn't get much easier than that
[09:59] <ardchoille> !openbox
[09:59] <ubotu> openbox is a lightweight window manager. For instructions and more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Openbox. To replace metacity with Openbox please see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Replace_Metacity_with_Openbox_in_gnome
[10:00] <Flannel> cu83: this all looks fine.  One thing I shouldve asked earlier, did you restart apache after installing php?
[10:00] <cu83> Flannel, yep i ran the cmd: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[10:00] <Flannel> cu83: with sudo?
[10:00] <cu83> i was  root
[10:00] <Flannel> good enough ;)
[10:00] <cu83> =P
[10:01] <lightstar> cu83, sorry 2 interject but after installing php did u do en2mod php5? then restart it?
[10:02] <cu83> lightstar, nope how do i do that?
[10:02] <Flannel> lightstar: yeah, he's got php5.load/conf in mods-enabled
[10:02] <cu83> oh
[10:02] <Seveas> lightstar, the php5 postinst calls a2enmod
[10:02] <Flannel> cu83: the only thing I can think of is that 'IfModule mod_php5.c' isn' being defined (well, just the mod_php5)
[10:02] <lightstar> Flannel, ah ok..really? mine didnt
[10:02] <lightstar> Seveas, i had 2 manually do it b4 it was enabled..
[10:02] <Flannel> but, as far as I know, that should be automatic with the php5.load
[10:03] <cu83> i just ran: apt-get install php5 && /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[10:03] <Flannel> lightstar: all a2enmod does is symlink [whatever] .load and .conf from -avail to -enabled
[10:03] <Flannel> cu83: did you not install libapache2-php5?
[10:03] <Flannel> or whatever the actual text is
[10:03] <cu83> Flannel it said it was already installed
[10:04] <Flannel> cu83: I figured it was, since otherwise the php5.conf/etc things shouldnt really exist
[10:04] <lightstar> Flannel, yeah
[10:04] <lightstar> cu83, try looking in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled and see if there is a reference to php5
[10:05] <cu83> lightstar, yeah there's a bunch
[10:05] <cu83> php5.load, php5.conf....etc.
[10:06] <lightstar> cu83, hmm
[10:06] <Flannel> etc? should just be those two ;)
[10:06] <cu83> lol =P
[10:06] <lightstar> hehe
[10:06] <Flannel> lightstar: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18419 18421 and 22 are your relevant pastes
[10:06] <cu83> after install I created test.php in /var/www
[10:07] <lightstar> Flannel, i'm looking at 22..now looking at 19:)
[10:07] <cu83> then went to mozilla and opened: localhost/test.php
[10:07] <cu83> and it asked if i wanted to download it
[10:07] <cu83> do i have  to do anything special to the .php file itself?
[10:07] <DavidJ> #windows is dead. Anyone know how to get a SATA drive to read in a laptop during a windows XP install if your laptop doesn't have a floppy drive?
[10:08] <Flannel> cu83: the download thing means it isn't parsing it, it's actually a fairly common problem (the AddHandler) thing, but php5.conf adds it (well, with the module check)
[10:08] <Flannel> DavidJ: this is #ubuntu, at least try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:08] <lightstar> cu83, try tail /var/log/httpd-error.log
[10:08] <cu83> k
[10:08] <DavidJ> it is at least ubuntu related. I want to dual boot windows xp and ubuntu
[10:08] <FusE> Im trying to install aMSN, where do I get TCL?
[10:08] <lightstar> cu83, oops..tail /var/log/apache2/error.log
[10:09] <frogzoo> DavidJ: OT? lol
[10:09] <cu83> lightstar, no errors
[10:09] <Seveas> !windows
[10:09] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[10:09] <lightstar> cu83, hmmmm...
[10:10] <newbuntu> i am new to ubuntu, when i run gedit on console, i alwasy get a warning of "locale not supported by xLib, cannot set locale modifiers", what does it means ?
[10:10] <FeestBijtje> !webcam
[10:10] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:10] <cu83> any ideas lightstar?
[10:11] <cu83> or Flannel?
[10:11] <lightstar> cu83, thinking...trying 2 c my config
[10:11] <cu83> =P
[10:11] <cu83> thanks
[10:11] <stefg> newbuntu: have you installed offline and didn't download the /full/ language support packs yet?
[10:12] <newbuntu> stefg, i didnt
[10:12] <yango> sys/types.h: No such file or directory   in what package do I find it (among with locale.h string.h, etc.)?
[10:12] <t174emilio> emilio
[10:12] <alehop> nas
[10:12] <newbuntu> u mean, after i download "language" support, this willb e solved ?
[10:13] <Sphearion> democracy player is awesome
[10:13] <ajax4> Hey guys...having a problem with my system. Its hard crashed 3 times today and I can't figure out why. Just started happening today. Any suggestions?
[10:13] <newbuntu> acturally what i want is a english locale, but able to input chinese
[10:13] <Flannel> yango: build-essential probably
[10:13] <stefg> newbuntu: so chech the /system/administration/language-support/ control-applet and install the language packs for all your wanted languages
[10:13] <Seveas> !compiling > yango
[10:13] <newbuntu> thx, stefg, i will try
[10:13] <Seveas> (you're missing libc6-dev)
[10:17] <bahadirt> guys a got a problem :)
[10:17] <noiesmo> not good :(
[10:17] <bahadirt> I got 2 lan adapters
[10:17] <bahadirt> 1 - on board
[10:17] <bahadirt> 2 - pci
[10:18] <bahadirt> both working
[10:18] <noiesmo> thats 3
[10:18] <RedGhost> hello, i can not get my bridged networking with VMware to work with ubuntu 6.06, there is simply no net connection, in previous versions (5.10, etc), i had no problems, anyone know the cause of this?
[10:18] <bahadirt> I connect the cable to pci lan adapter and 100/10 led is on
[10:18] <bahadirt> and I configured dhcp option
[10:18] <bahadirt> I try www.google.com
[10:18] <bahadirt> nothing happens
[10:18] <noiesmo> for both eth0 and eth1
[10:18] <Samdsleilink> Hello
[10:19] <bahadirt> eth0 disabled (on board)
[10:19] <bahadirt> eth1 is active
[10:19] <bahadirt> I chose dhcp for eth1
[10:19] <bahadirt> bcos I am inside a network
[10:19] <Samdsleilink> I installed ubuntu then added kde, now when my pc starts the screen in blue says kubuntu not ubuntu. how do I change that back please?
[10:20] <bsmith> hello, i installed dapper recently and i'm on a 2.6.15-25-386 kernel
[10:20] <bsmith> should there be a kernel source package in apt that corresponds to this kernel?
[10:20] <Sphearion> someone needs to make a vblog about modding (other than hak.5)
[10:20] <frogzoo> bsmith: yup
[10:20] <Ribs> bsmith: apt-get install kernel-source
[10:20] <Ribs> \o/
[10:20] <Samdsleilink> Can anyone help ?
[10:21] <Bergcube> bahadirt~  Have you tried pinging out from your machine?  You should first try pinging a "raw" ip address and then a domain.  1) ping <IP_ADDRESS>  2) ping vg.no   (For example)
[10:21] <bahadirt> can only ping localhost
[10:21] <bahadirt> nothing else
[10:21] <bahadirt> pity huh
[10:21] <bsmith> hmm, it tries to install kernel-source-2.4.27 when i do that, for some reason
[10:21] <Flannel> bsmith: Samdsleilink sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[10:21] <Flannel> er, Samdsleilink
[10:21] <bahadirt> maybe it fails to obtain an automatic ip
[10:21] <bahadirt> ?
[10:21] <Samdsleilink> rgabjs
[10:21] <Samdsleilink> thanks even
[10:22] <bsmith> which apt source should it be coming from?
[10:25] <Samdsleilink> what is a good 3d game to test my vid card that isnt to big to download?
[10:26] <FusE> Im trying to install aMSN, where do I get TCL?
[10:27] <Sola6662> the what?
[10:27] <ardchoille> Is there a gui that lets you specify which apps get started when gnome loads?
[10:27] <FusE> Idk
[10:27] <FusE> it just says it requires TCL
[10:27] <Sola6662> well i havnt used amsn
[10:27] <Sola6662> i use gaim
[10:27] <FusE> I hate gaim
[10:28] <Sola6662> well useing a third party im like amsn is not safe to me
[10:28] <bla|patrick> ardchoille: ya
[10:28] <bla|patrick> in gnome is it system -settings - sessions
[10:29] <FusE> Sola
[10:29] <Sola6662> yo
[10:29] <FusE> AMSN is completely safe
[10:29] <ardchoille> bla|patrick: d'oh.. I should have known that.. too early n the morning. Thanks :)
[10:29] <Sola6662> hmmm
[10:29] <bla|patrick> ardchoille: :D
[10:30] <bla|patrick> could be named different my gui is in another language :)
[10:30] <Sola6662> dont know what to say FusE i use Gaim unless msn makes a offical linux bin of mim
[10:30] <FusE> mim?
[10:30] <FusE> Sola
[10:30] <bjorn-> hmm, any reason why my .bash_profile isn't run when I start a terminal? :)
[10:31] <FusE> its just a rework of MSN
[10:31] <FusE> its like a duplicate
[10:31] <rob> woah, I'm having some real stability issues with the latest updates..
[10:31] <Sola6662> i know
[10:31] <FusE> Anyone know where to get TCL?
[10:32] <FusE> Where
[10:32] <Sola6662> i was replying to what u said about mim
[10:32] <frogzoo> bjorn-: cos gdm doesn't read it - try .gnomerc
[10:32] <Seveas> elkbuntu, --^
[10:33] <FusE> I wish mIRC worked for Linux
[10:33] <FusE> and nns
[10:33] <elkbuntu> woohoo
[10:33] <juju> lol
[10:33] <juju> FusE
[10:33] <Sola6662> wine
[10:33] <juju> hi
[10:33] <FusE> Hey juju!
[10:33] <bahadirt> I did it
[10:33] <FusE> Wait
[10:33] <FusE> juju
[10:33] <bahadirt> eth0 perfectly works
[10:33] <FusE> are you from codestream?
[10:33] <bahadirt> ;)
[10:33] <juju> yes
[10:33] <FusE> woot :)
[10:33] <juju> :p
[10:33] <FusE> juju
[10:33] <FusE> you know where to get tcl?
[10:33] <Sola6662> o.o
[10:33] <spydr> bjorn-, edit->current profile->title and command  .... select Run command as shell
[10:34] <FusE> juju, my latest prank: http://illusion-x.net/lolrofl.html
[10:34] <Seveas> FusE, juju: take the offtopic talk elsewhere please
[10:34] <spydr> run terminal again and it should load your .bash_profile
[10:34] <FusE> Seaveas, is that an autoresponder? because Ive seen tons of off topic in here :S
[10:35] <elkbuntu> FusE, juju your enter keys will wear out too quickly if you dont stop.
[10:35] <FusE> elkbuntu, huh?
[10:35] <FusE> Are you talking about TCL?
[10:35] <elkbuntu> FusE, no, the hitting the enter key every 4 characters
[10:36] <juju> err
[10:36] <juju> urg
[10:36] <FusE> I don't hit it every four letters <_<
[10:36] <juju> [20:35]  * [10053]  Software caused connection abort
[10:36] <FusE> Can someone tell me where to get TCL?
[10:36] <Seveas> FusE, system  administration  synaptic
[10:36] <Seveas> and search for tcl
[10:36] <FusE> Thanks
[10:37] <FusE> Damn, its updating atm
[10:37] <Seveas> then you'll have to wait
[10:37] <Seveas> patience is a virtue
[10:37] <FusE> Why walk when you can run?
[10:38] <FusE> I love the ubuntu cursors and tha background
[10:38] <juju> lol FusE
[10:38] <FusE> lol
[10:38] <juju> er
[10:38] <FusE> I was Linux deprived :P
[10:38] <juju> everyone from codestream irc moved to a different one
[10:38] <Seveas> juju, last warning. offtopicness elsewhere
[10:39] <FusE> Dont worry, we moved it to pm
[10:39] <juju> >:(
[10:39] <FusE> @juju: pm
[10:39] <juju> k
[10:40] <nrdb> is the an program like kdesu for gnome?
[10:40] <Seveas> nrdb, gksudo
[10:40] <FusE> ubuntu is a cool name, I wanna name my child Ubuntu :)
[10:40] <FusE> or, if its a girl, Debian
[10:41] <alehop> hi
[10:41] <FusE> Ello
[10:41] <spydr> why not Fedora lol
[10:41] <FusE> That would be her middle name
[10:41] <nrdb> Seveas: thanks
[10:41] <FusE> And his would be ummm, Redhat
[10:41] <asdx> how do i install a .deb from http?
[10:41] <Seveas> !deb
[10:41] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[10:41] <asdx> directly, without download it first
[10:41] <FusE> What was that for....
[10:41] <Seveas> asdx, that can only be done via apt
[10:42] <spydr> Hi My name is Ubuntu Fedora Doe
[10:42] <spydr> :P
[10:42] <Seveas> FusE, for continuing offtopicness after 2 warnings
[10:42] <asdx> Seveas: how
[10:42] <FusE> That wasn't offtopic...
[10:42] <asdx> dpkg won't do that?
[10:42] <Seveas> asdx, the place you download it from must be a proper repository
[10:42] <Seveas> asdx, no, dpkg only does local files
[10:42] <asdx> sigh
[10:44] <WillFarnaby>  /quit
[10:44] <ardchoille> I'm ubuntu user #112. Just registered my 11 machines :)
[10:44] <FusE> ardchoille, you can register ubuntu?
[10:45] <Seveas> FusE, see topic
[10:45] <FusE> Wtf, Im on topic now.
[10:45] <ardchoille> FusE: Yes: http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/  I didn't know it until Seveas put it in the topic
[10:45] <juju> KEKEKEKEKEKEK
[10:45] <Seveas> FusE, the counting thing is in the topic...
[10:46] <FusE> Oh, I thought you were like, saying something about it.
[10:46] <FusE> Its a counter for ubuntu?
[10:46] <Seveas> yes
[10:46] <juju> >:(
[10:46] <Seveas> brand new, so you can still get the low numbers
[10:46] <nrdb> is there a program that will put up a dialog with a short message that can be triggered from a script?
[10:46] <Seveas> juju, next time will be a ban.
[10:47] <ardchoille> nrdb: Yes, zenity can do that and it's quite configurable.
[10:47] <FusE> http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/img/ubuntu-user.php?user=113
[10:47] <nrdb> ardchoille: thanks that looks like it will work.
[10:48] <ardchoille> nrdb: You're welcome :)
[10:49] <FusE> What does the S stand for in the Synaptic packages
[10:50] <Seveas> whether it's installed or not
[10:50] <FusE> Wait, it says I have TCL and TK, but yet when I try to install MSN
[10:50] <Seveas> short for Status
[10:50] <Seveas> FusE, if you want amsn, just install amsn via synaptic...
[10:50] <FusE> I get this error: Dependency is not satisfiable: tcltls
[10:51] <FusE> oh
[10:51] <FusE> it has it?
[10:51] <Seveas> of course.
[10:51] <Seveas> !info amsn
[10:51] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[10:51] <FusE> I just searched and it doesn't
[10:51] <FusE> I have dapper...
[10:51] <bahadirt> guys
[10:51] <Seveas> then go to applications  add/remove in the main menu
[10:51] <Seveas> it
[10:51] <bahadirt> I need to configure postfix
[10:51] <bahadirt> where can I find cos
[10:51] <bahadirt> docs
[10:51] <Seveas> 's easier to find there
[10:51] <bahadirt> docs?
[10:51] <Seveas> !docs
[10:51] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[10:52] <bahadirt> !postfix
[10:52] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix or here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[10:52] <FusE> Seveas, its not in there
[10:52] <FusE> Nvm
[10:53] <Orion-Coder> Well I'm gonan go play halo. I'll tlak to yall later
[10:56] <bahadirt> do I need to install additional components to postfix to enable it work as a mail server ?
[10:57] <FusE> Where do you get "wine"
[10:57] <Seveas> FusE, your local liquor store
[10:57] <pppoe_dude> FusE, from ubuntu repos
[10:57] <FusE> :)
[10:57] <Seveas> !wine
[10:57] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:57] <FusE> ty
[10:57] <skorm> LOL, local liquor stores, rofl!!!!!!!!!
[10:58] <yorik> hi
[10:58] <skorm> someone qdb.us that
[10:58] <FusE> lol
[10:58] <FusE> put it on bash.org
[10:58] <skorm> bash.org is dying
[10:58] <Bergcube> yorik~  Poor you.  We hardly knew you...  ;-)
[10:58] <FusE> very
[10:58] <Cyball> hi is it possible to made audio conference with yahoo, icq or msn messangers ???
[10:58] <Subhuman> Cyball, not in gaim
[10:58] <yorik> Bergcube: are you sure?  I thought you knew me too well...
[10:58] <Subhuman> you can in msn with Amsn
[10:58] <Subhuman> !msn
[10:58] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[10:59] <FusE> Subhuman  I know :)
[10:59] <yorik> I recently switched from XP, and have a problem with copy & paste with hebrew
[10:59] <Bergcube> yorik~  I think we must stop now, before someone ELSE goes too medieval on us...
[10:59] <Cyball> i have already gaim and i want to make audioconference with yahoo but how it doesn't support this future
[10:59] <ardchoille> What is this SLED menu I keep hearing about? Is there some info about it?
[10:59] <yorik> when I'm in Hebrew mode, I can't Ctrl+x Ctrl+v etc.
[10:59] <Subhuman> yorik
[11:00] <Subhuman> try selecting the text
[11:00] <Subhuman> and then middle clicking
[11:00] <Seveas> ardchoille, it's called slab - there exists a preliminary Uslab (Ubuntu slab) patch somewhere on the wiki. do a title search for slab
[11:00] <yorik> Subhuman: hmm, I'd rather not use the mouse if I can avoid it.
[11:00] <ardchoille> Seveas: Thank you
[11:01] <Subhuman> yorik, im jus saying does that work?
[11:01] <yorik> oh, trying
[11:01] <yorik> Subhuman: yeah, it dupes the text.
[11:03] <Subhuman> well ctrl+C/V doesnt always work in every app see
[11:03] <yorik> Subhuman: the thing is, it works in Firefox. just not when I'm in Hebrew mode.
[11:04] <yorik> in XP, Ctrl+x works regardless of your keyboard language mode. I was wondering if there's a way to make it work on Ubuntu too, at least for FF.
[11:04] <Stroganoff> hello. why is it, that my proftpd caps upload limit at 500 kb/s?
[11:04] <Bergcube> Subhuman~  Talking about that...  Can we convince / configure bash to make CTRL-V work in the terminal?
[11:05] <Subhuman> Bergcube, no idea im afraid, i love the middle click "X!1" style copy/paste
[11:05] <yorik> actually, Ctrl-v is a pretty horrible binding, right next to Ctrl-c
[11:06] <yorik> I prefer the emacs bindings, but anything would be better than the mouse.
[11:07] <thomas> hi guys
[11:07] <thomas> whats the difference between a primary and a logical partition
[11:08] <frogzoo> Stroganoff: depends - what's your upstream b/w ?
[11:08] <yorik> Bergcube: is he insanely smart? ;)
[11:08] <FusE> !wine
[11:08] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:08] <Bergcube> yorik~  Yes.  But you can also put the full stop in that sentence directly after "insane".....
[11:09] <yorik> ok, another question: I like the default English font, but the default Hebrew font is pretty horrible. How do I change it?
[11:09] <Subhuman> thomas, to the end user nothing, basically a hd can have 4 primary partitions, so to have more, the 4th partiton becomes "extended" and is just a container for logical partitions.
[11:09] <Subhuman> you get me?
[11:09] <thomas> Subhuman, ok
[11:10] <thomas> Subhuman, but a the operating systems have to be on a primary partition or
[11:10] <frogzoo> thomas: not so
[11:10] <FusE> I dont understand how to install wine
[11:10] <FusE> how do I add a repository
[11:10] <frogzoo> !multiverse
[11:10] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[11:11] <thomas> frogzoo: so the os could also be on an logical partition ?
[11:11] <frogzoo> thomas: sure
[11:12] <FusE> how do I add a repository
[11:12] <thomas> frogzoo: so whats happening if the os is in an extended partition
[11:12] <Seveas> FusE, read the 2 pages ubotu gave
[11:12] <Stroganoff> frogzoo i'm talking about 100mbit LAN
[11:12] <frogzoo> thomas: nothing special - it's just a partition - i have / on /dev/hda7
[11:12] <Tommy2k4> i did update-rc.d sendmail remove but sendmail still tries to start on bootup
[11:13] <Stroganoff> i can download with 10 mb/s but uploading is always at 500 kb/s (with several ubuntu/proftpd computers)
[11:13] <FusE> !wine
[11:13] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:13] <FusE> It only gives one!
[11:13] <frogzoo> Stroganoff: oh, well that's kind of slow
[11:13] <thomas> frogzoo: ok thx for your help
[11:13] <Stroganoff> yes it must be some kind of software limit
[11:17] <FusE> woot
[11:17] <FusE> got wine installed
[11:17] <FusE> how can I test it?
[11:17] <frogzoo> FusE: wine notepad
[11:17] <FusE> notepad opens :)
[11:18] <frogzoo> FusE: now run 'winecfg' & setup your paths etc.
[11:18] <helpmeee> can someone help me with a problem?  pleaseeee <3
[11:18] <frogzoo> helpmeee: we don't know
[11:18] <Seveas> !someone > helpmeee
[11:19] <Toma-> Got a nasty problem with Ekiga... the gamma/brightness is really low. I've cranked it up with the kernel module, but still no love from ekiga. any tips?
[11:19] <FusE> Seveas
[11:20] <Seveas> FusE?
[11:20] <helpmeee> I have a sound problem in quake.. it laggs every 2 or 3 seconds for anything in quake3.. anyone know how to fix it?
[11:20] <FusE> I have two hard disks, Windows on one, Linux on the other. But grub doesnt come up, the windows loader does
[11:20] <FusE> how do I set it so grub does
[11:20] <Seveas> !grub > FusE
[11:20] <FusE> What does that mean!
[11:20] <FusE> lol
[11:21] <ardchoille> lol
[11:21] <Seveas> FusE, it means that ubotu has now sent you a message
[11:21] <Stroganoff> no one got a clue with my proftpd-upload-problem?
[11:22] <FusE> How do I write GRUB to the MBR
[11:22] <Enverex> Is there a list anywhere of the latest things added to Synaptic?
[11:22] <FusE> Or so that Grub shows up on the Windows BootLoader
[11:22] <Thijs> hey all. 'sup?
[11:22] <Toma-> !grub
[11:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:23] <Toma-> FusE, read that ^^
[11:23] <ardchoille> Enverex: When you open synaptic and hit the reload button, usually there will be a new entry like "New in repositories"
[11:23] <FusE> Toma..... read that...
[11:24] <helpmeee> I have a sound problem in quake3.. it laggs every 2 or 3 seconds for anything in quake3 :( anyone know how to fix this?
[11:24] <Toma-> FusE, yes. read it. goto the link, and read the article. once you have the knowledge, fix your problem.
[11:24] <Enverex> ardchoille, erm, where will that new entry be?
[11:25] <ardchoille> Enverex: Hit the Status button at the bottom and it will be in with the Install, Not Installed, stuff
[11:26] <Enverex> ardchoille, Only has All, Installed, Installed (local or obsolete), Not Installed, Not Installed (residual config)
[11:27] <Cosly> Has anyone have experiance installing VMWare on Ubuntu ?
[11:27] <Thijs> :)
[11:27] <larson9999> hello, i asked this in #kubuntu a while ago and got no response so i figured i'd try here.
[11:27] <ardchoille> Enverex: Yes, that is the right sectin.. on mine it shows up there *if* there are new apps in the repos
[11:27] <larson9999> can someone point me to a doc that explains how flash drives work in kubuntu?  mine automount just fine and i have read/write access.  but there is no entry in fstab like there was in mandriva so i'd like to read about how they work.  also, someone on a mailing list i belong to is asking about the fstab entry.  i looked at mine but didn't have any :)
[11:27] <Cosly> Hello Thijs, god to see you here
[11:27] <l33t> hello
[11:27] <dcnstrct> hey, I would like to install opera 9 via synaptic.. is this possible ? I don't see it listed.  What do I need to do ? thanks
[11:27] <telmich> larson9999: read the documents about automounter
[11:27] <Enverex> ardchoille, Ah, erm, I kinda want a list of stuff like, added by date though... heh
[11:28] <larson9999> thanks telmich
[11:28] <Seveas> larson9999, ubuntu uses pmount for removable things
[11:28] <Seveas> not automounter
[11:28] <larson9999> Seveas: ok
[11:29] <l33t> hello?
[11:29] <telmich> Seveas: oh, sorry, was not really up2date :)
[11:29] <Toma-> how can you find out a version of a module? (modinfo didnt work)
[11:29] <FusE> Toma
[11:29] <FusE> that doesnt really help
[11:30] <FusE> Im on linux right now
[11:30] <Toma-> FusE, print it out
[11:30] <FusE> and thats talking about while on LiveCD
[11:30] <Toma-> ??
[11:30] <FusE> Print what out?
[11:30] <Toma-> FusE, the live cd is linux...
[11:30] <l33t> wtf?
[11:30] <dcnstrct> could someone give me a tip, I need to know if it's possible to install opera 9 from synaptic.  thanks
[11:30] <FusE> Toma, will this still preserve the bootloader?
[11:30] <l33t> well
[11:30] <Toma-> l33t, wh4t?
[11:31] <l33t> if Opera 9 is not listed in Synaptic, I dont think it's possible
[11:31] <Bergcube> l33t~  If you have a question or problem, just describe it.
[11:31] <Toma-> FusE, yep
[11:31] <Toma-> i gtg sorry
[11:31] <FusE> ugh
[11:31] <l33t> lol
[11:31] <FusE> Seveas: what exactly does that do?
[11:31] <dcnstrct> l33t, thnx
[11:31] <l33t> thanks for what?
[11:32] <FusE> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-3a896b43d621c1410ab4281ba25857b2e6720b5c
[11:32] <FusE> What does that do^^?
[11:32] <l33t> dcnstrct
[11:32] <dcnstrct> hai
[11:32] <dcnstrct> thanks for telling me that it won't work
[11:33] <dcnstrct> so I don't waste my time
[11:33] <l33t> np
[11:33] <l33t> but
[11:33] <l33t> you dont know how to manually do it?
[11:33] <dcnstrct> negative, I assume I'm going to have to use apt-get
[11:33] <FusE> SOMEONE HELP ME PLEASE
[11:33] <l33t> k
[11:33] <dcnstrct> and probably modify some file
[11:33] <FusE> What does this do?
[11:33] <l33t> yeah
[11:33] <FusE> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-3a896b43d621c1410ab4281ba25857b2e6720b5c
[11:33] <l33t> it's https
[11:33] <l33t> so it's secure
[11:33] <FusE> Big deal?
[11:33] <Enverex> Is there a list anywhere with the packages that are in synaptic in released date order?
[11:34] <l33t> wtf
[11:34] <l33t> I'm not offical support, by the way
[11:34] <FusE> Im so tired ...
[11:35] <l33t> why are you asking what that link does?
[11:35] <l33t> copy and paste it into your browser
[11:35] <FusE> Not what the link does
[11:35] <FusE> but what the stuff in the link
[11:35] <ardchoille> FusE: It explains what it does under "Using the Ubuntu Install CD"
[11:35] <FusE> ardchoille
[11:35] <FusE> 1. Boot from a Live CD, like Ubuntu Live, Knoppix, Mepis, or similar.
[11:35] <FusE> 2. Open a Terminal. Go SuperUser (that is, type "su" in a non-Ubuntu distro, or "sudo -i" in Ubuntu). Enter root passwords as necessary.
[11:35] <FusE> 3. Type "grub" which makes a GRUB prompt appear.
[11:35] <FusE> 4. Type "find /boot/grub/stage1". You'll get a response like "(hd0)" or in my case "(hd0,3)". Use whatever your computer spits out for the following lines.
[11:35] <FusE> 5. Type "root (hd0,3)".
[11:35] <FusE> 6. Type "setup (hd0,3)". This is key. Other instructions say to use "(hd0)", and that's fine if you want to write GRUB to the MBR. If you want to write it to your linux root partition, then you want the number after the comma, such as "(hd0,3)".
[11:35] <FusE> 7. Type "quit".
[11:35] <FusE> What does that do exactly?
[11:35] <l33t> sudo bash!
[11:35] <l33t> hmmm...
[11:36] <l33t> I guess that is to set up Grub
[11:36] <FusE> l33t
[11:36] <l33t> to configure it to recognize Linux?
[11:36] <FusE> I know it sets up grub
[11:36] <FusE> But does it overwrite the MBR
[11:36] <FusE> Does it work with the Windows bootloader?
[11:36] <l33t> no
[11:36] <l33t> Grub takes over
[11:36] <FusE> what does it do
[11:36] <Subhuman> FusE, it adds windows to the grub menu
[11:36] <Subhuman> so you van still boot into windows
[11:37] <FusE> subhuman
[11:37] <FusE> Windows is on my grub menu
[11:37] <ardchoille> Wowsers, the more I read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ the more I realise how much work has gone into it :)
[11:37] <FusE> but to get to my grub menu
[11:37] <FusE> I have to boot differently from Bio
[11:37] <l33t> what the hell
[11:37] <l33t> why is that in https?
[11:37] <FusE> I have a entry in the Windows bootloader dedicated to linux
[11:37] <Subhuman> the wiki is secure?
[11:37] <FusE> buttt....
[11:37] <FusE> yeah
[11:37] <FusE> Subhuman
[11:37] <FusE> do you know that comand
[11:37] <FusE> it starts like dd
[11:37] <FusE> and it has of=
[11:37] <FusE> and bs=512
[11:37] <FusE> count=1
[11:37] <FusE> I cant remember it
[11:38] <Subhuman> no ive never chainloaded grub onto the windows mbr.
[11:38] <Subhuman> i dont actrually use grub either.
[11:38] <Subhuman> but w.e
[11:38] <FusE> Im so tired......
[11:38] <Subhuman> GAG FTW :D
[11:38] <l33t> that would be weird putting Grub on the MBR like that
[11:38] <l33t> I uninstalled Ubuntu and Grub wouldnt load for me
[11:38] <l33t> I was f'ed
[11:38] <FusE> aha
[11:38] <FusE> dd if=/dev/hdb of=mbr.save bs=512 count=1
[11:38] <l33t> FIXMBR owns
[11:39] <kintaro0e> has anyone tried installing jxplorer?
[11:39] <Enverex> OH MY GOD
[11:39] <l33t> ?
[11:40] <Subhuman> 133t thats because grub is stored in /boot
[11:40] <l33t> well yes
[11:40] <l33t> it just scared the f' outta me
[11:40] <Subhuman> so unless you make /boot a separate partition, deleteing the / partiton fucks grub
[11:40] <Enverex> I'm on an Athlon64 X2 and for over a week I've been using the standard i386 kernel (not SMP) so not only have I been using an inferior kernel, I've only been using half of my processing power >.<
[11:40] <Subhuman> thats why i use GAH
[11:40] <Subhuman> GAG*
[11:40] <l33t> well Grub sucks
[11:41] <Subhuman> totally stored in the mbr
[11:41] <Subhuman> and easy to set up
[11:41] <l33t> Grub SUCKS
[11:41] <ardchoille> Can we keep this channel family friendly please. Watch the language.
[11:41] <selinuxium> Enverex: How is x2 support in ubuntu?
[11:41] <l33t> no one swore
[11:41] <Subhuman> yea
[11:42] <Subhuman> meh w.e
[11:42] <whadar> i worked on text file using gedit... and it got deleted :( is there a way to find it on the gedit cache or something?
[11:42] <stefg> l33t, what about understanding concepts before getting angry (because you didn't)
[11:42] <Enverex> selinuxium, Erm, no idea, I've been running i386 non SMP kernel, lol. I'm also running 32bit not 64, there are too many apps that don't work on 64 yet
[11:42] <ironfroggy> im trying to install lilo (grub has never worked on this partiticular box) and i got an error when it tried to write the MBR. is there a known reason for that?
[11:42] <l33t> too bad 64 bit has virtually no app support
[11:43] <ardchoille> whadar: You can look in the Trash, but if it was really deleted, then it's gone.
[11:43] <l33t> yeah
[11:43] <l33t> it's not like Windows
[11:43] <l33t> once you delete it from Trash, it's gone
[11:43] <selinuxium> Enverex: You can run 32 bit apps within a 32 bit chroot on a 64bit machine.  Have you updated your BIOS recently?
[11:44] <whadar> it is really not clear how to gzip a folder...
[11:44] <Enverex> I assume "linux-k7-smp" is the best option for an Athlon64 x2 running in 32bit...
[11:45] <l33t> i686 owns
[11:45] <ironfroggy> stefg: nope
[11:45] <selinuxium> Enverex: According to 'The Fridge' The next flavour of Ubuntu should support both natively...
[11:45] <Bergcube> l33t~  Linux is for people who use computers.  My wife is very un-geeky, nonetheless she's very happy with Ubuntu and prefers it over the redmond altternative os.
[11:45] <l33t> yeah
[11:45] <Enverex> selinuxium, Yes,  I heard about that which will be nice
[11:45] <ironfroggy> stefg: but i had lilo installed on here already before i tried to install ubuntu
[11:45] <l33t> but Ubuntu can be different to a Windows user
[11:45] <l33t> it's not as easy
[11:46] <ardchoille> I have a 7 year old niece who installed Ubuntu all by herself and she uses it as her default OS.
[11:46] <FusE> Subhuman
[11:46] <Enverex> It was easier on my PC, heh
[11:46] <FusE> or ardchoille
[11:46] <frogzoo> l33t: it is as easy - just people forget they've been learning windows for years
[11:46] <l33t> Ubuntu is a pretty easy distro
[11:46] <Bergcube> l33t~  Not completely the same does not equal harder.
[11:46] <FusE> How do I access some of my windows files?
[11:46] <Enverex> ardchoille, pff, I was hacking Amigas at 6
[11:46] <l33t> Ubuntu is actually pretty good
[11:46] <Subhuman> yea FusE ?
[11:46] <FusE> How do I access some of my windows files?
[11:46] <l33t> hmm
[11:46] <Boglizk> How do you unzip a bz2-file?
[11:46] <Subhuman> umm well ntfs is read only atm
[11:46] <l33t> you need to mount the drive
[11:46] <l33t> mount the drive
[11:46] <FusE> Subhuman
[11:46] <FusE> I dont need to write to it
[11:46] <l33t> I got it
[11:46] <stefg> ironfroggy: chances are that if the BIOS is buggy, neither lilo nor grub have a chance of finfing a kernel. I'd look for the newest BIOS for the box, flash it, make sure that LBA is set for large disks amd try grub again.
[11:46] <FusE> I need to get some of my mirc logs
[11:46] <l33t> open termina;
[11:46] <FusE> for a command
[11:46] <l33t> open terminal
[11:46] <frogzoo> !ntfs
[11:46] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:47] <l33t> sudo mkdir /media/windows
[11:47] <l33t> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[11:47] <FusE> Terminal is openj
[11:47] <Subhuman> FusE,  do "sudo mkdir mount/win && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/win"
[11:47] <l33t> but, change hda1 to the location of Windows on your HDD
[11:47] <ironfroggy> stefg: any idea if things like random boot ups having all system LEDs solid could be related? im sure its a bios message, but i dont know what it means.
[11:47] <FusE> Subhuman, can not create directory, no such file or directory
[11:47] <l33t> lol
[11:48] <l33t> change hda1 to what it is on your HD
[11:48] <FusE> which hd
[11:48] <l33t> hda1 is default, it may not be correct
[11:48] <FusE> im tired
[11:48] <Subhuman> FusE, "sudo mkdir /mount/win && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/win"
[11:48] <Subhuman> sorry.,
[11:48] <Subhuman> missed a slash
[11:48] <FusE> k
[11:48] <FusE> I got a result
[11:48] <FusE> >
[11:48] <orbin> Boglizk: use bzip2 :P
[11:48] <Subhuman> FusE, then do "gksudo nautilus" and navigate to /mount/win and there you are
[11:48] <stefg> ironfroggy: at least it's strange enough to indicate that there's something broken on the lowest level.. ACPI7APM-controller getting crazy, odd settings, broken hardware, maybe?
[11:49] <Enverex> Is "linux-k7-smp" the best option for an Athlon64 x2 running in 32bit? (as there is no K8 option)
[11:49] <ironfroggy> is there a tool to create a boot floppy that will skip the MBA? i never used the floppy. i dont mind keeping a boot disc in there.
[11:49] <l33t> why not go to places and click on computer?
[11:49] <stefg> !boot
[11:49] <ubotu> Boot options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[11:49] <FusE> mkdir: cannot create directory `/mount/win': No such file or directory
[11:49] <Subhuman> FusE, sudo mk
[11:49] <FusE> sec
[11:49] <l33t> lol
[11:50] <Enverex> It's also /mnt not /mount
[11:50] <FusE> my windows drive is /dev/sda
[11:50] <Subhuman> yeah FusE i meant to say media
[11:50] <l33t> damn
[11:50] <Subhuman> im used to mine
[11:50] <Subhuman> i made it mount
[11:50] <l33t> sudo mkdir /media/windows
[11:50] <l33t> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[11:50] <FusE> alright
[11:50] <Subhuman> ^ FusE  :D
[11:50] <FusE> you all fight over the command
[11:50] <FusE> and someone tell me :)
[11:50] <l33t> listen
[11:50] <Subhuman> FusE, mine was wrong
[11:50] <l33t> go here
[11:50] <l33t> this is the official support for this
[11:50] <FusE> l33t
[11:51] <FusE> Its 3 am
[11:51] <l33t> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[11:51] <FusE> and Im supposed to go to the beach tomorrow
[11:51] <l33t> thats official support
[11:51] <l33t> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[11:51] <FusE> I cant even see every other word atm lol
[11:51] <FusE> Can someone just straight up give me the command :)
[11:51] <l33t> I did
[11:51] <FusE> paste again
[11:51] <ardchoille> FusE: If you're tired, I would politely suggest you leave things and get some sleep. I wouldn't wanna see you end up making a grave error due to fatigue :)
[11:51] <stefg> !enter > l33t
[11:51] <l33t> ok
[11:51] <l33t> now listen
[11:51] <FusE> ardchoille, Im young
[11:51] <l33t> assuming hda1 is Windows, this will work
[11:52] <FusE> hda1 isnt windows
[11:52] <l33t> if hda1 is not Windows, it wont work right
[11:52] <someothernick> !ntfs
[11:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:52] <FusE> /dev/sda is
[11:52] <l33t> then change it
[11:52] <l33t> edit it to that
[11:52] <l33t> or maybe I will for you
[11:52] <ardchoille> !enter > l33t
[11:52] <FusE> can you give me the command
[11:52] <l33t> sudo mkdir /media/windows
[11:52] <l33t> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[11:52] <FusE> that was origianlly
[11:52] <FusE> it says
[11:52] <whadar> how can i gz a folder simply???
[11:53] <FusE> mount: /dev/sda already mounted or /media/windows/ busy
[11:53] <l33t> sudo mkdir /media/windows
[11:53] <l33t> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[11:53] <kouwe> when i use the CD from ubuntu 6.06 and format the drive to ext3 (sata) it hangs always around the 15% what am i doing wrong??
[11:53] <theoverload> hi all
[11:53] <stefg> whadar: man gzip will you, it' so dead simple i don't dare to tell you here :-)
[11:53] <theoverload> kann mir einer mit ubuntu helfen
[11:53] <someothernick> FusE, http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows.php <-- better guide
[11:53] <mk1990> hello guys
[11:54] <whadar> stefg: gzip -c -r causes many problems!
[11:54] <l33t> lol
[11:54] <mk1990> i have an issue
[11:54] <l33t> oh
[11:54] <l33t> we aint physchiatrists, sorry
[11:54] <l33t> ;)
[11:54] <Enverex> kouwe, Are you sure the drive isn't damaged?
[11:54] <someothernick> lol
[11:54] <l33t> psychiatrists?
[11:54] <l33t> hmm
[11:54] <kouwe> nope, its an undamaged drive btw its on a Toshiba Centrino laptop...
[11:54] <Enverex> Right, now to switch to the K7-SMP kernel from the i386 kernel. This should give me a big speed boost, lol.
[11:54] <mk1990> when ever i try to instal Ubuntu 6.06
[11:55] <mk1990> it says mounting drives and stays there
[11:55] <Enverex> kouwe, Try formatting to reiserfs or something
[11:55] <frogzoo> whadar: tar zcf tarfile.tgz .
[11:55] <Subhuman> Enverex, not huge, but noticeable yes
[11:55] <stefg> l33t: please stop enter-spam... i think i'm not the only one annoyed by it
[11:55] <kouwe> Enverex, ok ill try that!
[11:55] <kouwe> could that be a solution?
[11:55] <ardchoille> stefg: You're not
[11:55] <Enverex> Subhuman, I'm going from non-SMP to SMP and optimised, I think that may be substancial, heh
[11:55] <l33t> I am not spamming
[11:55] <kouwe> btw, should i use on a laptop some special boot options... nolapic or something?
[11:56] <mk1990> it said mounting drives... and nothing happenes
[11:56] <ardchoille> l33t: Please form full sentences instead of taking up so many lines.
[11:56] <l33t> when I copy and paste it, it shows it like that
[11:56] <bastl> hi, im working on a customized Xubuntu LiveCD. I would like to change default language and some desktop settings (desktop wallpaper, immediate startup of firefox to a spcific URL) of the "ubuntu" user. can anyone help me out? where do i edit such things?
[11:56] <l33t> good question
[11:56] <whadar> frogzoo: i need .gz... i'll use some hack...
[11:56] <Enverex> back in a few
[11:57] <mk1990> anyone??
[11:57] <whadar> i wish right click -> create archive would also include just .gz
[11:57] <l33t> bsdtl
[11:57] <l33t> bastl
[11:57] <l33t> maybe you could find it in about:config?
[11:57] <gregg__> http://www.killernic.com/KillerNic/PDFs/KillerNic_TechSpecsHi.pdf
[11:58] <frogzoo> whadar: you can't gzip a directory - it's that simple
[11:58] <l33t> hmm
[11:58] <l33t> I found an entry
[11:58] <stefg> whadar: gzip only compresses /single/ files... that's why /tar.gz/ is used for multi-file archives
[11:58] <ironfroggy> is there a grub command to look at what is installed at the MBA currently?
[11:58] <l33t> startup.homepage_override_url
[11:58] <FusE> that didnt work someothernick
[11:58] <FusE> I got this
[11:59] <telmich> ironfroggy: no, but you can use dd + xxd to get a hexdump
[11:59] <bastl> l33t: im devolping the LiveCD, not using it.
[11:59] <FusE> mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /windows busy
[11:59] <FusE> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is mounted on /tmp/disks-conf-sda1
[11:59] <ironfroggy> telmich: it wont be understandable tho will it?
[11:59] <l33t> bastl?
[11:59] <telmich> ironfroggy: like dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 | xxd
[11:59] <ironfroggy> i just want to verify that grub actually worked.
[11:59] <l33t> oh
[11:59] <l33t> I can go in my FF and use about:config
[11:59] <telmich> ironfroggy: well, only if you know what should be there :)
[11:59] <l33t> to change it
[11:59] <ardchoille> l33t: Please form full sentences instead of taking up so many lines.
[11:59] <someothernick> FusE, unmount the drive
[11:59] <FusE> how :)
[12:00] <FusE> sudo umount /media/sda1?
[12:00] <l33t> no
[12:00] <l33t> sudo umount /media/windows/
[12:00] <FusE> umount: /media/windows: not mounted
[12:00] <ironfroggy> well, is it bad if i see both LILO and GRUB in the first block of the drive?
[12:00] <mk1990> so anyone got a solution to mounting drive?
[12:00] <telmich> ironfroggy: they can't be both there
[12:01] <ironfroggy> telmich: i just see both strings in the block
[12:01] <dcnstrct> why is Ruby in main but irb in universe ?
[12:01] <telmich> ironfroggy: don't care, if your bootloader works
[12:01] <brutopia> what's irb
[12:01] <dcnstrct> irb should be packaged together with Ruby anyway
[12:01] <ironfroggy> telmich: the second is within "GRUB .Geom.Hard Disk.Read. Error."
[12:01] <dcnstrct> it's the interactive ruby prompt
[12:01] <bastl> Anyone ideas how to to customize the desktop settings on a home-brewn LiveCD?
[12:01] <ironfroggy> telmich: it doesnt work.
[12:01] <telmich> ironfroggy: reinstall grub then
[12:02] <ironfroggy> telmich: thats why im trying to verify grub is successfully installing or not.
[12:02] <Enverex> When Edgy comes out, is it going to have seperate 32bit and 64bit versions or is it going to be integrated into one?
[12:02] <ironfroggy> telmich: done it several times.
[12:02] <telmich> ironfroggy: how?
[12:02] <dcnstrct> whoever designed the packages for Ruby in ubuntu really screwed up imho
[12:02] <l33t> sweet
[12:02] <l33t> FF got pwned
[12:02] <ironfroggy> telmich: reran the install and did it manually
[12:02] <l33t> about:config has an override setting
[12:02] <l33t> you have to change both settings for the new homepage to work
[12:03] <bastl> l33t: STFU
[12:03] <l33t> wtf?
[12:03] <l33t> what?
[12:03] <ardchoille> !coc
[12:03] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[12:03] <l33t> did I do something wrong?
[12:03] <theoverload> who kann help me with ubuntu and speak german
[12:03] <l33t> was I not supposed to say that?
[12:04] <stefg> !noob
[12:04] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[12:04] <telmich> ironfroggy: provide more details, what you typed
[12:04] <ardchoille> steqThank you
[12:04] <elkbuntu> l33t, your talking about FF should be in #ubuntu-offtopic. It's not specifically Ubuntu related.
[12:04] <l33t> but someone asked how to change it
[12:05] <kouwe> i now have the live-CD in my laptop, and used gparted to format the drive to reiserfs
[12:05] <bastl> l33t: i am creating a customized LiveCD. i can change my FF Homepage my self, bzut it should be as i want it, when i boot!
[12:05] <elkbuntu> l33t, they asked you to talk about FF being pwned?
[12:05] <kouwe> but then it hangs on 15% :x
[12:05] <ironfroggy> 'grub-install /dev/hda'
[12:05] <kouwe> someone?
[12:05] <l33t> ;)
[12:05] <FusE> woot
[12:05] <FusE> !FusE > l33t
[12:05] <l33t> Ubuntu FF doesn't want the homepahe to be changed
[12:05] <Subhuman> bastl, jus make a session that starts on bootup
[12:05] <Subhuman> and then put "firefox www.whatefveryouwant.com" in it.
[12:05] <stefg> kouwe: how big is the frive?
[12:05] <FusE> Subhuman
[12:06] <stefg> *drive
[12:06] <FusE> Can I play games when its mounted like this?
[12:06] <selinuxium> what has happened to hotplug under Dapper?
[12:06] <elkbuntu> FusE, please behave. if you're going to talk in here, dont just spurt random junk every now and then.
[12:06] <l33t> yeah, no spam
[12:06] <l33t> stupid, pointless, annoying, messages
[12:06] <elkbuntu> FusE, #ubuntu-offtopic is for spurting random junk.
[12:06] <Subhuman> FusE, no.
[12:06] <l33t> lol
[12:06] <l33t> is that a joke FuSE?
[12:06] <primal> hello all
[12:06] <kouwe> stefg, the drive is 80 GB 3 for my swap
[12:06] <l33t> the architecture is not the same
[12:06] <kouwe> 77 for reiserfs
[12:06] <l33t> thats why there is WINE
[12:06] <ardchoille> l33t: #ubuntu-offtopic is for spurting random junk.
[12:07] <bastl> subhuman: sorry: but how do i start a session at boot up? in /etc/init.d ?
[12:07] <l33t> I didnt spurt junk, I was responding to him
[12:07] <primal> will someone kindly tell me what the command is for restarting x?
[12:07] <Subhuman> bastl, this is Xubuntu so i dont know how to in fbox
[12:07] <jksd> can linux support ASP?
[12:07] <NthDegree> primal ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:07] <Enverex> If you want to (try) and play Windows games and use Windows programs from inside Ubuntu look at http://www.winehq.org
[12:07] <Subhuman> try asking in #xubuntu
[12:07] <ardchoille> primal: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:07] <stefg> kouwe: are 100% positive that parted hangs, or might it just take it's time for doing things like fsck
[12:07] <elkbuntu> ardchoille, l33t isnt spurting, he's just not putting it all on a single line, which makes it look spurty
[12:07] <l33t> ASP.NET is specifically for Windows
[12:07] <Seveas> l33t, mono can run asp.net too
[12:08] <kouwe> stefg, it really hangs nothing responds and i waited before for a hour and nothing happened
[12:08] <FusE> elbuntu
[12:08] <NthDegree> but the mono implementation is not complete is it?
[12:08] <FusE> That was ontopic.
[12:08] <primal> that works if i'm at the command prompt in recovery mode?
[12:08] <jksd> l33t: OK thanks
[12:08] <king> MY Ubuntu 5.10 is not upgrading itself to the latest ubuntu! I want dapper but the automatic updater wont find it. WHAT can I do??? I Really want to ditch Win XP and start to use linux.... <-----------------------
[12:08] <FusE> I asked a question, I wanted to know if you could play games...
[12:08] <stefg> kouwe: Ok... :-( can you open a terminal?
[12:08] <l33t> wait
[12:08] <Enverex> primal, /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:08] <l33t> FusE
[12:08] <frogzoo> bastl: on gnome - sys -> admin -> login window -> security -> automatic login
[12:08] <kouwe> stefg, i should reboot from the liveCD
[12:08] <l33t> Windows apps can't run natively on Linux
[12:08] <l33t> you need WINE
[12:09] <NthDegree> king there is no auto-update to dapper, you change the repositories to dapper ones then run apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:09] <FusE> I have wine
[12:09] <primal> thank you, Enverex
[12:09] <Seveas> !upgrade > king
[12:09] <Enverex> You can play games, just not Windows games, not natively anyway, heh
[12:09] <Seveas> NthDegree, nonsense, update-manager does that automagically
[12:09] <Bloodcky> tell me the command for installing KDE on ubuntu... :)
[12:09] <stefg> kouwe: we should make sure first thath your partition-table is intact
[12:09] <Bloodcky> >P
[12:09] <l33t> ReactOS is quite nice for Windows on Linux
[12:09] <l33t> in a sense
[12:09] <king> NthDegree: How can I get Dapper reposities?
[12:09] <frogzoo> !appdb > FusE
[12:09] <Seveas> Bloodcky, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:09] <kouwe> stefg, what command should i use for checking that?
[12:09] <Bloodcky> yea tnx
[12:09] <NthDegree> king listen to Seveas he knows more than me and obviously knows an easier way
[12:10] <Seveas> king, ubotu sent you a message. please read it
[12:10] <mjr> l33t, not really; you'd need a VM to run it...
[12:10] <stefg> kouwe: sudo fdisk -l
[12:10] <aquafina> Hi. I installed ubuntu 6.06 but Firefox gives me a XML parse error when i download some tgz files
[12:10] <kouwe> ok ok, moment live CD is booting
[12:10] <l33t> I dont mean running Windows in Linux
[12:10] <l33t> I mean support for Windows apps
[12:10] <l33t> ReactOS
[12:10] <aquafina> And can someone point me to a post-install page - which tells howto install additional packages?
[12:10] <tcv> 'morning
[12:10] <l33t> plus, VM doesnt make Windows run in Ubuntu
[12:10] <Subhuman> aquafina, !apt
[12:10] <Subhuman> !apt
[12:10] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:11] <Bloodcky> lucky@lucky-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:11] <Bloodcky> Reading package lists... Done
[12:11] <Bloodcky> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:11] <Bloodcky> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[12:11] <Bloodcky> yea?
[12:11] <Subhuman> aquafina, synaptic is prob your best bet.
[12:11] <tcv> (or ev'nin' or afternooon)
[12:11] <stefg> !easyubuntu > aquafina
[12:11] <Seveas> Bloodcky, your /etc/apt/sources.list is very broken
[12:11] <king> NthDegree, Seveas: I have read wikipages, I think I have tryed everything. Im not just getting the update :(
[12:11] <NthDegree> it does too l33t, VMs (Virtual Machines) allow you to run windows inside ubuntu :)
[12:11] <l33t> inside?
[12:11] <Seveas> Bloodcky, put that file on the pastebin
[12:11] <Bloodcky> where? lol
[12:11] <l33t> I thought it's like having 2 OS running at the same time but you have to be in 1 or the other
[12:11] <ompaul> !paste > Bloodcky
[12:11] <NthDegree> king then do the hard way, open up /etc/apt/sources.list and replace all the words breezy with dapper
[12:12] <ikon> nearly inside. VMware runs ON linux, Inside VMware runs WIN32
[12:12] <brutopia> l33t: topmost os emulates hardware for inside os
[12:12] <stefg> !easysource
[12:12] <NthDegree> king then run apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:12] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:12] <kouwe> stefg, can i pm you?
[12:12] <l33t> hmm
[12:12] <king> NthDegree: COOL thanks! Will try that
[12:12] <stefg> kouwe: most support is in public interest...
[12:12] <l33t> hey
[12:12] <brutopia> you "are" always in ubuntu when running windows in vmware
[12:12] <kouwe> ok ok :D
[12:12] <ikon> yes VMware simulates, and also connects to HW
[12:12] <ikon> yesyes
[12:12] <l33t> I've never used VMWare
[12:12] <kouwe> stefg, now doing fdisk -l
[12:12] <l33t> just heard about it
[12:12] <ikon> always inside ubuntu
[12:13] <NthDegree> VMWare Server is free l33t and runs an OS inside an OS
[12:13] <l33t> wtf?
[12:13] <l33t> I know what VMWare does
[12:13] <ikon> server is not what u need
[12:13] <brutopia> l33t: you shouldn't make statements if you have no idea what you are talking about
[12:13] <stefg> kouwe: so does it give any sensible resukt?
[12:13] <l33t> I knew what VMWare does, just not how exactly
[12:13] <Enverex> VMWare can't run games though, well, it has very rough beta 3D support but don't expect to play WoW or anything else in it, heh
[12:13] <l33t> I am l33t, come on
[12:13] <l33t> 1337
[12:13] <kouwe> stefg, it got 3 things, /dev/sda1+2+5
[12:13] <NthDegree> ikon, it is if you want it free and you want to create and run VMs
[12:13] <kouwe> linux, extended and swap
[12:13] <aquafina> stefg: more like it :) installing the stuff now :)
[12:14] <ikon> I can run OpenGL games like Starcraft neatly in wmvare :)
[12:14] <NthDegree> Server can create and run VMs, but requires that xinetd to be tuned to avoid being hacked
[12:14] <ikon> only excluding directx apps
[12:14] <dcnstrct> ikon, SC runs well in VMware ?!?! are you serious ?
[12:14] <stefg> kouwe: so it seems that although the gui part hanged, the partitioning went alright
[12:14] <Guard] [an> hello, what command to run in order to update config.guess ??? configure says it's too old (2005-08-03) ???
[12:14] <ikon> YES serious :)))
[12:14] <Enverex> dcnstrct, It runs perfectly in Wine anyway
[12:14] <ikon> i play daily
[12:15] <kouwe> stefg, yeah it seems correct....
[12:15] <ikon> also wmvare is not free if u need one free
[12:15] <NthDegree> ikon it is free, read the VMWare Server FAQ
[12:15] <dcnstrct> so no biggie
[12:15] <Enverex> VMWare requires you to fully install Windows and all other programs where as Wine just pretends to be Windows
[12:15] <brutopia> I've heard that cedega is quite good for windows gaming in linux
[12:15] <l33t> WINE is not an emulator
[12:15] <ikon> that is when u have a preconfigured win OS to PLAY
[12:15] <l33t> in fact, WINE stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator
[12:15] <ikon> I have to install my win xp first
[12:15] <someothernick> !wine
[12:15] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux.  But if you can afford the bandwith i'd rather get the 'alternate' (text-mode install)-CD...
[12:16] <kouwe> isnt that on the DVD ?
[12:16] <Dimensions> hi i am installing ubuntu on my two three systems but i get this error when i boot it from the cd before it can install ubuntu " invalid compressed format(err:1 ) kernel panic not syncing VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown block (1,0) .......... ???? ane one can help plz
[12:16] <l33t> they have a DVD for Ubuntu and Kubuntu with more packages
[12:16] <kouwe> i got the dvd of drake here to
[12:16] <aquafina> stefg: there is a text mode install cd image? can you point out the URL?
[12:16] <NthDegree> brutopia, it works but I have used both and every game cedega played, WINE played just as good and sometimes better
[12:16] <Enverex> You also have to pay for Cedega and they tend to flat out lie aswell
[12:16] <jksd> isn't there such a thing as Apache ASP for linux?
[12:16] <stefg> !download
[12:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[12:17] <l33t> the DVD just has more packages than the CD
[12:17] <ardchoille> aquafina: The Alternate CD has a text-mode installer
[12:17] <aquafina> stefg: thanks.
[12:17] <NthDegree> l33t, the DVD allows you to install if you don't know what arch your PC is
[12:17] <l33t> but the DVD has extra packages the CD doesn't
[12:17] <aquafina> ardchoille: ahhh. i would have liked that.. i didnt quite like this one which booted to a live CD and then wanted to install :)
[12:17] <l33t> how can you use a PC and not know the architecture?
[12:17] <aquafina> it took more time too!
[12:17] <jksd> l33t: isn't there such a thing as Apache ASP for linux?
[12:17] <bilss_> hi
[12:18] <l33t> maybe
[12:18] <aquafina> jksd: chilisoft asp
[12:18] <l33t> I am not sure
[12:18] <NthDegree> jksd, apache was made for linux :)
[12:18] <stefg> !lamp
[12:18] <Enverex> jksd, ASP is MS proprietory, so I wouldn't expect too much
[12:18] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:18] <aquafina> jksd: it is not free. it is an addon to be used with Apache
[12:18] <primal> Enverex, i have another question for you...
[12:18] <primal> well nevermind
[12:18] <Enverex> hmm
[12:18] <kouwe> stefg, now booting from the DVD in text-mode....
[12:18] <NthDegree> mod_mono allows you to use ASP on Apache I think
[12:19] <bilss_> anybody understand perl
[12:19] <l33t> how would someone not know their architecture?
[12:19] <NthDegree> l33t ubuntu is mainly for newbies
[12:19] <Kaja> Everything is possible.
[12:19] <stefg> kouwe: so you use another box to chat?
[12:19] <Enverex> But yeah, if you want to play or use Windows stuff on Linux, use WINE (VMware needs a copy of Windows and all the space to install it and Cedega you have to pay for)
[12:19] <kouwe> yes this is on my normal computer :)
[12:19] <NthDegree> the DVD has the same packages the CDs have AFAIK but in all of the main architectures
[12:19] <l33t> I know, but knowing your architecture is just knowing what you are using
[12:19] <Dimensions> ane one can answer me plz ?
[12:19] <bilss_> about 45%
[12:19] <Enverex> Is anyone here interested in E-UAE for Ubuntu?
[12:20] <ikon> re
[12:20] <ikon> whats E-UAE?
[12:20] <mejobloggs> Anyone know how i can improve performance of ubuntu under VMWare Player?
[12:20] <NthDegree> Dimensions, I get that with some distros and usually when I compile my own kernel - it is usually down to bad support for your hard-disk
[12:20] <kouwe> stefg, should i do something special before formatting?
[12:20] <Shadowpillar> question, anyone here use a realtek 8201 chip?
[12:21] <m0gsi> Hey guys what is the best kernel for a 800mhz Athlon on xubuntu
[12:21] <stefg> mejobloggs: faster CPU, more RAm, faster hardrive :-)
[12:21] <ikon> LOL
[12:21] <l33t> i386 man
[12:21] <mejobloggs> heh, yeah, but apart from that
[12:21] <Dimensions> NthDegree:  but what i should do ? bcoz the hdd on which i had installed they were the same like this one ... and i get this message for a brand new hdd aswell ?
[12:21] <NthDegree> mejobloggs, VMWare Player? VMWare Server is *FREE* and does the same as VMWare Player and more (it can create VMs too)
[12:21] <bilss_> ompual: how you doin?, fine i hope
[12:21] <m0gsi> l33t isn't there anything better for that :P ?
[12:21] <mejobloggs> I thought VMWare server was for servers?
[12:21] <ikon> NthDegree: does Serrver create VM-s????
[12:22] <stefg> kouwe: no, but i'd recommend to go for manual partitoning and mount-point definition
[12:22] <NthDegree> mejobloggs, VMWare Player can only PLAY VMs
[12:22] <m0gsi> Obviously ikon :P
[12:22] <ikon> can us confirm that?
[12:22] <l33t> wait
[12:22] <NthDegree> Server can create them too
[12:22] <kouwe> stefg, ok now there, ill do manually edit partition table
[12:22] <l33t> I am checking it out
[12:22] <Enverex> m0gsi, K7
[12:22] <bilss_> i found vmware workstation to be the best
[12:22] <NthDegree> ikon it can create them
[12:22] <aquafina> kouwe: yeah
[12:22] <ikon> ok, i give it a try at home tonight :)
[12:22] <mejobloggs> http://www.easyvmx.com/ can creat VMWare virtual machines
[12:22] <ikon> i hope u r right
[12:22] <l33t> m0gsi
[12:22] <m0gsi> Enverex so it is new enough for k7?
[12:23] <mejobloggs> I created my virtual machine in like, 5 seconds, then used it on VM Players
[12:23] <NthDegree> mejobloggs, get VMWare Server which can CREATE VMs and is *free*
[12:23] <mejobloggs> how is it better than player?
[12:23] <Enverex> m0gsi, Yeah, Athlons and Athlon-XPs were K7's and Athlon64's are K8s
[12:23] <mejobloggs> Player is like, 20mb, Server is like, 150mb
[12:23] <NthDegree> it can create them itself using the latest VM version
[12:23] <mejobloggs> so?
[12:23] <mejobloggs> http://www.easyvmx.com/
[12:23] <mejobloggs> use that
[12:23] <Enverex> m0gsi, The old K6-2's were... well, K6's, heh
[12:23] <ikon> how is server better than workstation?
[12:23] <m0gsi> yeh l33t?
[12:23] <m0gsi> Thanks Enverex :( this is gonna kill my uptime
[12:23] <NthDegree> ikon, server is free
[12:23] <m0gsi> I had a k6!
[12:23] <l33t> I found the list
[12:23] <Enverex> ikon, E-UAE is currently the best Amiga emulator for Linux
[12:23] <NthDegree> workstation costs
[12:23] <mejobloggs> Player is free, and http://www.easyvmx.com/ is free
[12:23] <ikon> thanks Enverex
[12:24] <mejobloggs> at 1 10th of the download siz
[12:24] <Enverex> ikon, WHY are you installing VMWare?
[12:24] <mejobloggs> esoze
[12:24] <mejobloggs> size
[12:24] <l33t> it's standard Athlon
[12:24] <ikon> to develop in win32 c#
[12:24] <kouwe> darn.... "Warning: file:///cdrom/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz was corrupt"
[12:24] <NthDegree> mejobloggs, i don't understand you - you make a VM on a 3rd party site that makes them to an older standard
[12:24] <Subhuman> kouwe, dont use your cd then.
[12:24] <Enverex> ikon, Ah, I thought it was for Starcraft or something. Never understoof why people do that
[12:24] <l33t> sudo apt-get install linux-k7
[12:24] <Dimensions> NthDegree: ?
[12:24] <furrykef> Hi, is there any way to make the system beep play through the sound card instead of the PC speaker?
[12:24] <ikon> they wouldnt charge something that would worth it
[12:24] <l33t> that would be what you need
[12:24] <NthDegree> yet VMWare Server is free and makes newer VM versions
[12:24] <mejobloggs> NthDegree: shrug, i hardly know anything
[12:25] <kouwe> !download
[12:25] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[12:25] <ikon> Enverex: i DO use wmvare to be able to bnet in sc, in wine i cannot
[12:25] <l33t> you can download a CD?
[12:25] <mejobloggs> ok, so VMWare server is better? In what ways?
[12:25] <jrib> furrykef: try 'softbeep', that's what it claims to do
[12:25] <l33t> you download an ISO image, not a CD
[12:25] <Enverex> ikon, What version of Wine? As it works perfectly for me
[12:25] <stefg> kouwe: do you have an .iso of the installation medium on the harddisk?
[12:25] <Dimensions>  hi i am installing ubuntu on my two three systems but i get this error when i boot it from the cd before it can install ubuntu " invalid compressed format(err:1 ) kernel panic not syncing VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown block (1,0) .......... ???? ane one can help plz
[12:25] <kouwe> nope not on the laptop harddisk
[12:25] <ikon> Enverex: newest from snyaptic
[12:25] <Enverex> ikon, Synaptic is about half a year or more out of date
[12:25] <ikon> Enverex: i wanna play on MY bnet as i usepvpgn
[12:25] <furrykef> jrib - thanks, trying it now
[12:26] <NthDegree> mejobloggs, it can create VMs, it can allow for snapshots to be made (superior to system restore), it can do a lot of extra optimizations on your VMs etc.
[12:26] <mejobloggs> VMWare server takes more system resources though?
[12:26] <stefg> kouwe: so you're in for a fresh CD... get the alternate image from the mirrors
[12:26] <jrib> Dimensions: did you burn the cd yourself?
[12:26] <stefg> !download
[12:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[12:26] <Tommy2k4> resizing a partition in manual partitioner in installer seems to be taking ages
[12:26] <ikon> Enverex: i dont know as i see it uses the latest or 1 revision older than the one can be downloaded officially
[12:26] <Enverex> ikon, Wine is on version 0.9.17 (nearing .18) where as Synaptic only has 0.9.9
[12:26] <l33t> thats not true
[12:26] <NthDegree> mejobloggs, not at all if you use linux as your host OS
[12:26] <l33t> a CD cannot be downloaded
[12:26] <l33t> the ISO image cna
[12:26] <Dimensions> jrib:  the cd has worked before on other systems its fine cd ... besides i have more than one cd
[12:26] <l33t> can
[12:26] <mejobloggs> NthDegree: well I dont :p
[12:26] <furrykef> Hmmm... maybe softbeep requires a reboot
[12:27] <kouwe> stefg, it was a DVD from dapper drake 6.06
[12:27] <kouwe> but i have shipped here some cd from dapper...
[12:27] <NthDegree> mejobloggs, you can still use VMWare Server and it still uses very little resources - it can make your VMs faster
[12:27] <ikon> Enverex:  hmmm, i must have bben missing sy...than sorry, i was wrong about the version
[12:27] <furrykef> Oh wait... you have to use softbeep at the command line?
[12:27] <kouwe> stefg, but on the CD i cant use text-mode right?
[12:27] <stefg> kouwe: but i think the DVD is bad... you already had probs, didn't you?
[12:27] <mejobloggs> NthDegree: Do I need to get the client as well? Or just the server?
[12:27] <Tommy2k4> !partition
[12:27] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[12:27] <kouwe> stefg, yes
[12:27] <NthDegree> mejobloggs, the server includes the console with it
[12:27] <l33t> CD's can store 700MB
[12:27] <Tommy2k4> what partitions do i need when installing
[12:27] <jrib> Dimensions: hmm don't know then
[12:28] <mejobloggs> NthDegree: Can I optimize the Virtual Machine in Server, and then use Player to run it?
[12:28] <kouwe> stefg, should i now use the shipped CD or download a new DVD/CD ?
[12:28] <NthDegree> mejobloggs, you can but Server is better all round if you use it
[12:28] <Enverex> l33t, CDs can store all different amounts. There are even 800MB discs, albiet rare
[12:28] <stefg> kouwe: so be straight, get an alternate-CD and start over. Everything else is a waste of time
[12:28] <mejobloggs> k
[12:28] <l33t> mostly 700MB
[12:28] <l33t> I speak in general
[12:28] <kouwe> ok ok doing that
[12:28] <furrykef> Hmm, I don't know if softbeep is going to work for me...
[12:29] <stefg> kouwe: Oh, you have a ShpIt-CD?
[12:29] <NthDegree> only function Server does not have is the *Experimental* Direct3D support (which hardly anyone knows how to enable)
[12:29] <kouwe> stefg, yes
[12:29] <mejobloggs> NthDegree: also, How would I go about making a 'minimum install' of ubuntu, so I can use a VM Ubuntu to use for web browsing
[12:29] <Subhuman> mejobloggs, do a expert install, and just install "ubuntu-minimal" and w.e else you require.
[12:29] <Enverex> NthDegree, : I could kinda play C&C Generals in it with it though, lol
[12:29] <DaveyJ> anyone know what would be the order to load all plugins when launching xgl/compiz?
[12:29] <stefg> kouwe: you're going to install on the lappie, right? Is the CD-Drive broken, maybe?
[12:29] <Subhuman> mejobloggs, youll need an alternative install d
[12:29] <mejobloggs> Subhuman: cheers
[12:30] <mejobloggs> oh
[12:30] <mejobloggs> k
[12:30] <Subhuman> DaveyJ, makes no difference.
[12:30] <kouwe> stefg, no the CD drive is perfect
[12:30] <d-s-d> hi
[12:30] <kouwe> and yes its on an laptop
[12:30] <DaveyJ> Subhuman: is that so? is there a list for all the plugins? :)
[12:30] <NthDegree> mejobloggs, my advice is ditch windows and use VMWare to run Windows inside ubuntu :)
[12:30] <d-s-d> Is there a console-tool that allows me to hibernate the computer?
[12:30] <mejobloggs> Subhuman: Can i download the iso's with the latest patches?
[12:30] <mejobloggs> NthDegree: not an option :(
[12:30] <NthDegree> why not?
[12:30] <DaveyJ> i mean i have "water" in my command but its not loading at all
[12:31] <mejobloggs> because of my family
[12:31] <Subhuman> mejobloggs, no, you jus have to do an "apt-get upgrade" once u get it.
[12:31] <mejobloggs> and we play direct x games a lot
[12:31] <jrib> furrykef: did you read the usage details?
[12:31] <Subhuman> DaveyJ, water is so sketchy, hardly works on anyt system
[12:31] <stefg> kouwe: then have the laptop perform a media check on the CD/DVD you're installing from. It should be in the boot menu
[12:31] <DaveyJ> ohh thats probably why ;)
[12:31] <NthDegree> rofl mejobloggs you can just get WINE or WineX that can play quite a few of them
[12:31] <jatt> should the installation key of windows work when installing windows as guest operating system on a ubuntu box?
[12:31] <DaveyJ> is there a list out there somewhere that has all the plugins?
[12:31] <furrykef> jrib - I don't see a way to basically make the whole system use softbeep...
[12:31] <kouwe> stefg, ok ill try that. But the cd is working but then hangs on formatting...
[12:32] <Subhuman> jatt, yes it will.
[12:32] <mejobloggs> NthDegree: nah, too much effort. And I want more fps :)
[12:32] <Enverex> NthDegree, It also doesn't play a lot... heh
[12:32] <NthDegree> Enverex, depends on the distro
[12:32] <stefg> kouwe: what Laptop is it (make/model) ?
[12:32] <furrykef> Especially since it doesn't work with SUID/SGID
[12:32] <kouwe> stefg, Toshiba Satellite M70-147 Intel Centrino 1.73Ghz
[12:32] <Enverex> NthDegree, Erm? How does what Wine can play have anything to do with the Distro?
[12:32] <jrib> furrykef: I don't use it but http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/softbeep/ suggests you can set it up using LD_PRELOAD environment variable
[12:33] <stefg> kouwe: ok, that should be well supported
[12:33] <kouwe> indeed
[12:33] <Boglizk> My friend gets a "crc error - system halted" when trying to install Ubuntu
[12:33] <mejobloggs> NthDegree: ok, My main two win programs are rFactor (www.rfactor.net) and Solidworks (CAD). Do you think you could get them going good on linux ?
[12:33] <Boglizk> What does it mean?
[12:33] <jatt> Subhuman: thanks, unfortunately in my case it never worked. Windows requires to be registered after some weeks of use, and the windows key in the back of my laptop isn't accepted. I just wanted to know if anyone had similar experiences...
[12:33] <kouwe> stefg, installing breezy was no problem at all but drake always hangs at formatting...
[12:33] <Enverex> NthDegree, and WineX hasn't existed for a long long time
[12:33] <Subhuman> jatt, that means an issue with the key then, installing ubuntu will make NO difference.
[12:33] <king> !upgrade
[12:33] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[12:33] <ikon> hi guys, for those who dont know what is the difference betwwen server and workstation VMware, heres the faq : http://www.vmware.com/products/server/faqs.html
[12:34] <Subhuman> and ive installed windows after ubuntu so i can confirm this.
[12:34] <Enverex> mejobloggs, Check the WineApp Database
[12:34] <furrykef> jrib - Hmm... I think I'll do without, but thanks anyway :)
[12:34] <stefg> kouwe: coulde the harddisk suffer from newly developed bad blocks?
[12:34] <ikon> the 4th point
[12:34] <mejobloggs> Enverex: link?
[12:34] <Enverex> mejobloggs, appdb.winehq.org
[12:34] <mejobloggs> ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso what i want?
[12:34] <mejobloggs> Enverex: thanks
[12:34] <Enverex> FYI I'm a tester/reporter for Wine
[12:35] <kouwe> stefg, hmmm dont know that... :$
[12:35] <jatt> Subhuman: right probably it is a key issue. I was thinking about something Microsoft does, like finding out it is running on a vmware VM and rejecting the key. But all that is offtopic, so I will not talk about this anymore here :)
[12:35] <Subhuman> jatt, it doesnt.
[12:35] <kouwe> but i just formatted suse 10.1 from it and that was working fine...
[12:36] <Enverex> stefg, That's outside, it's hotter inside as no-where has AV
[12:36] <Enverex> erm, AC
[12:36] <stefg> kouwe: so you come to partioning, but trying to format the drive ends with a freeze?... Is there a windows on the Laptop, or could you afford to wipe the complete harddrive?
[12:36] <CyDrive> how do i compile a .sh file?
[12:37] <mejobloggs> Enverex: doesnt look like my two programs have a hope of being supported on wine
[12:37] <pygi> hey folks :)
[12:37] <l33t> what programs?
[12:37] <Enverex> mejobloggs, Were they in the appdb?
[12:37] <mejobloggs> Solidworks and rFactor
[12:37] <jrib> CyDrive: what are you trying to install?
[12:37] <kouwe> stefg, no windows on the harddrive and yes it freezes while formatting.... and the drive can be wiped out
[12:37] <CyDrive> crossover
[12:37] <jatt> CyDrive: you don't. sh files are interpreted
[12:37] <mejobloggs> Enverex: they where in there, but no votes or no activity
[12:37] <d-s-d> Does anybody in here know how i can hibernate, or generally use any power-management functions, without clicking around on my gnome-desktop?
[12:37] <neuro-> hi there guys, got a problem when my ubuntu install gets to loading the xserver - it says "no screens found" in the x error log
[12:38] <leftjustified> can anyone recommend a UML app for ubuntu that doesn't use java?
[12:38] <l33t> maybe go to System and Preferences
[12:38] <Enverex> mejobloggs, I just checked them, both have multiple testing reports, all marked as "Garbage"
[12:38] <kouwe> btw in the meen time checking the CD finished perfectly
[12:38] <Enverex> mejobloggs, Basically they don't work, heh
[12:38] <jatt> neuro-: pastbin your xorg.conf file
[12:38] <mejobloggs> yeah, exactly
[12:38] <mejobloggs> so stick with windows for me
[12:38] <l33t> Power Management is in Preferences
[12:38] <neuro-> ok jatt, anything else i should know?
[12:38] <bahadirt> how can I authorise myself to send emails via postfix ?
[12:39] <stefg> kouwe: the paranoid way would be getting the 'lowlevel'-formatting utility from Toshiba and give the whole drive a treat. That would sort out a broken partition table and badblock-problems
[12:39] <bahadirt> it says "access relay denied"
[12:39] <d-s-d> l33t: yep, but is there any console-tool i can use outside of gnome to control the power-state of my computer?
[12:39] <kouwe> ok, didnt know there was that kind of tool but yes i can do that
[12:39] <Xk2c> jatt: How to pastbin with ubuntu?
[12:39] <kouwe> toshiba.org i assume ? :)
[12:39] <CyDrive> How do i install crossover its a .sh file what do i do with it?
[12:39] <jatt> neuro-: it could be many things. Use pastebin to put a copy of your xorg.conf (and X log file) so we can see it here, probably someone has a clue
[12:39] <l33t> I'm not sure
[12:39] <mejobloggs> Enverex: with VMWare Server, can you drag and drop files from the VM window to the host OS ?
[12:40] <neuro-> ok ta
[12:40] <neuro-> brb
[12:40] <Sakireth_> i'm banned in #ubuntu-offtopic >_<
[12:40] <gnomefreak> CyDrive: .sh files are ran by using sh file.sh
[12:40] <Enverex> mejobloggs, You can under Windows, not sure about Linux.
[12:40] <CyDrive> oooh ok
[12:40] <jrib> CyDrive: you usually just run the .sh file, open a terminal and do: sh /path/to/file.sh
[12:40] <jrib> CyDrive: (you may need to use sudo), be sure you trust the source of the file...
[12:40] <mejobloggs> Enverex: uhh, you mean, windows to windows only?
[12:40] <l33t> sudo bash!
[12:40] <kouwe> ok back
[12:40] <mejobloggs> Enverex: or windows as the host OS ?
[12:40] <Enverex> mejobloggs, as host
[12:40] <Sakireth_> i have an idea
[12:40] <Sakireth_> ...
[12:40] <Sakireth_> weird, eh?
[12:41] <kouwe> stefg, do you know where i can download that util?
[12:41] <Sakireth_> me.. having an idea..
[12:41] <l33t> I have one too, dont spam
[12:41] <mejobloggs> Enverex: sweet, thats good for me then
[12:41] <javiolo> hi
[12:41] <gnomefreak> Sakireth_: stop spamming please
[12:41] <Sakireth_> Okay, guys, can you help me set up a dual-boot with windows and ubuntu running? I don't want to screw up my current installation so how to resize without screweing anything up so i can install windows?
[12:41] <Sakireth_> and sorry gnomefreak
[12:41] <stefg> kouwe: fdisk -l (we did this a while ago) told you what make of HD you have. go to th hd manufacturers site for a HD utility
[12:41] <l33t> ?
[12:41] <l33t> resize the NTFS partition to make room for Linux
[12:41] <kouwe> ok ok, looking
[12:42] <gnomefreak> Sakireth_: install windows first
[12:42] <Sakireth_> so i have to uninstall Linux?
[12:42] <l33t> no
[12:42] <gnomefreak> Sakireth_: dont have to
[12:42] <meyxiam> salut tout le monde
[12:42] <Sakireth_> gnomefreak: What do i do, then?
[12:42] <l33t> you need to make sure there is room for the new partition on the HDD though
[12:42] <meyxiam> french?????
[12:42] <bimberi> !fr
[12:42] <Sakireth_> there's not.. linux is using up all space
[12:42] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:42] <gnomefreak> install windows tha restore grub to mbr
[12:43] <Enverex> klingon?????
[12:43] <Enverex> ...
[12:43] <Enverex> Damn, I was waiting for a !kl or something
[12:43] <Sakireth_> gnomefreak: How to reinstall grub?
[12:43] <Dimensions> mejobloggs:  i am installing ubuntu on my two three systems but i get this error when i boot it from the cd before it can install ubuntu " invalid compressed format(err:1 ) kernel panic not syncing VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown block (1,0) .......... ????  can u help plz
[12:44] <gnomefreak> !grub > Sakireth_
[12:44] <Sakireth_> gnomefreak: And how to make room for Win?
[12:44] <gnomefreak> Sakireth_: read your pm
[12:44] <gnomefreak> brb
[12:44] <mejobloggs> Dimensions: sorry, i am an ubuntu noo
[12:44] <Sakireth_> gnomefreak: Alright.
[12:44] <Sakireth_> And how to make room for Win?
[12:44] <mejobloggs> Dimensions: *noob
[12:44] <stefg> Dimensions: i think the CD is bad
[12:44] <d-s-d> How can I change my window Manager on ubuntu?
[12:45] <stefg> Dimensions: or the CD-Drive...
[12:45] <Dimensions> but stefg both of them work on other hdds
[12:45] <mejobloggs> VMWare better than Virtual PC ?
[12:45] <stefg> d-s-d gdm lets you choose that at login
[12:45] <Sakireth_> How to keep my current Ubuntu installation but make plenty room for Windows so I can install Windows?
[12:45] <d-s-d> ok, let's see.
[12:46] <Guard] [an> please, the configure script is not working on my ubuntu 6.06 laptop: cannot guess build type; you must specify one
[12:46] <Guard] [an> anyone has an idea about this pb ?
[12:46] <Sakireth_> Guard] [an: I don't know. ./configure --help might help
[12:47] <stefg> !build > Guard] [an
[12:47] <Guard] [an> well it says it's a pb of config.guess
[12:47] <Guard] [an> that is outdated
[12:47] <jrib> Guard] [an: what is the configure script for?
[12:47] <Guard] [an> i'm very surprised, i just installed automake 1.9 and autoconf 2.59
[12:47] <Guard] [an> jrib: it's the configure script generated by automake
[12:48] <king> Good day from Finland everyone!
[12:48] <xopher> paeivaeae
[12:48] <Sakireth_> Anyone? Sorry i'm a little impatient. but i have the idea i am being ignored
[12:49] <Need^Kiss^> ffhh
[12:49] <king> Any finnish people here??
[12:49] <Sakireth_> not me, king.
[12:49] <roxy_> is it possible to do a floppy net install over wifi ?
[12:49] <xopher> king, sure
[12:49] <paulm> nor me king
[12:49] <thefish> i wanted to rename some lvs, so i just moved them (mv /dev/vg1/oldname /dev/vg1/newname), this worked perfectly, and i can now mount the lvs using the new names, but when i do lvdisplay, it still shows the old names. any idea where lvdisplay finds the names?
[12:49] <paulm> Does anyone know a program that will play  .wmv files?
[12:49] <Sakireth_> paulm: mplayer.
[12:49] <thefish> paulm: mplayer
[12:49] <stefg> !codescs
[12:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about codescs - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:49] <Sakireth_> lol
[12:49] <thefish> heh
[12:49] <stefg> !codecs
[12:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:49] <xopher> mplayer with w32codecs
[12:50] <Sakireth_> !gopher
[12:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about gopher - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:50] <Sakireth_> !bonzi
[12:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about bonzi - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:50] <Sakireth_> hmm..
[12:50] <king> Im having lotsa trouble updating my ubuntu 5.10 to 6.06 Dapper. I have tryed several workarounds but im not getting the update. Please can anyone help me hand in hand in private window??
[12:50] <jrib> paulm: mplayer, but you also need w32codecs
[12:50] <king> I really want to ditch XP and use Linux
[12:50] <Sakireth_> i wish i could run ragnarok online on Linux
[12:50] <Sakireth_> then i would be happ.y
[12:50] <paulm> Sakireth_ thefish i tried mplayer and i think i have the codecs and its still not working but give me a min and ill try again
[12:51] <Sakireth_> ok paulm
[12:51] <zsh> hi does anyone know how to unpack tar.bz2 in php
[12:51] <Sakireth_> zsh: system("tar -xvjf tar.bz2")
[12:51] <thefish> paulm: try "dpkg -l | grep -i codec" and look for something like w32codecs-all
[12:51] <kouwe> stefg, installing and skipped the format part.... now hopes this will work
[12:52] <paulm> thefish  im using synaptic at the mo...
[12:52] <zsh> sakireth system is disabled
[12:52] <Sakireth_> zsh: That's b d.
[12:52] <Sakireth_> bad*