[08:34] <ricosuave17> i like icewm
[08:34] <normal1> soi can us with smeg
[08:34] <HappyFool> Chillout: ok, i'm not going to download it then, sorry -- i have dialup and getting all the dev packages will take hours
[08:35] <Ubuntian> well on gnome u can choose your window manager (right?)
[08:35] <ricosuave17> i dont think so
[08:35] <HappyFool> ricosuave17: you can install other wm's via apt
[08:35] <ricosuave17> u use xwmconfig for that
[08:35] <lsuactiafner> gdm
[08:35] <Chillout> HappyFool: sure, i understand. if it is the content of that BibConfig.py file u want to take a look at i could paste it...!?
[08:35] <ricosuave17> humm
[08:35] <ricosuave17> i dont like that
[08:35] <lsuactiafner> gdm lests you choose
[08:35] <HappyFool> Chillout: sure
[08:35] <Ubuntian> see
[08:35] <ricosuave17> does it include icewm
[08:35] <lsuactiafner> blackbox > all
[08:35] <Chillout> HappyFool: ok ill do that...
[08:36] <ricosuave17> damn
[08:36] <Rockett17> if you apt-get install icewm it will show up in the gdm automatically
[08:36] <HappyFool> ricosuave17: you can easily install icewm using the ubuntu package system
[08:36] <alvaro> when i dot an apt-get install mplayer i get this:
[08:36] <Troy_McClure> no one here knows how to script x-chat?
[08:36] <HappyFool> Troy_McClure: try #xchat
[08:36] <alvaro> Package mplayer is a virtual package provided by:
[08:36] <alvaro>   mplayer-nogui 1:1.0-pre7-0.0
[08:36] <alvaro>   mplayer-k6 1:1.0-pre7-0.0
[08:36] <alvaro>   mplayer-586 1:1.0-pre7-0.0
[08:36] <alvaro>   mplayer-386 1:1.0-pre7-0.0
[08:36] <alvaro>   mplayer-custom 1:1.0-pre5-0.6ubuntu1
[08:36] <alvaro> You should explicitly select one to install.
[08:36] <alvaro> E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[08:36] <HappyFool> yay pasting
[08:36] <ashok> thanks lsuactiafner
[08:37] <thoreauputic> alvaro: choose the one that matches best with your cpu
[08:37] <Chillout> HappyFool: there it is >> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/556
[08:38] <lsuactiafner> mplayer-586 should be safe..
[08:38] <lsuactiafner> but its better to compile the cvs daily... not really but i do
[08:38] <ricosuave17> what is the ubuntu package system?
[08:38] <eruin> apt
[08:38] <eruin> same as debian
[08:38] <lsuactiafner> ricosuave17 : apt-get
[08:39] <ricosuave17> never have played with debian i dont know how that works i played with slackware
[08:39] <Rockett17> ricosuave17: or you can use apt-get graphically through synaptic
[08:39] <ashok> even after installing jre, my browser shows missing plugins
[08:39] <basti> crimsun, where are you?
[08:39] <Rockett17> !apt-get
[08:39] <eruin> oh.. well, it's pretty much the one binary package system to rule them all
[08:39] <ubotu> apt-get is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[08:39] <HappyFool> Chillout: that is not a user-editable file
[08:40] <hondje> hey look, it's ricosuave17
[08:40] <ricosuave17> so if i want ice should there be a package already made?
[08:40] <ricosuave17> and in that directory
[08:40] <eruin> ice?
[08:40] <alvaro> when i choose a package to install mplayer it says that it couldn't find no package
[08:40] <ricosuave17> yes
[08:40] <eruin> icewm?
[08:40] <ricosuave17> yeap
[08:40] <lsuactiafner> ashok : use the browser to install the plugins..
[08:40] <zukalk> ricosuave17, all you'll have to do is 'apt-get install icewm'
[08:40] <eruin> icewm 1.2.18 shows here
[08:40] <lesshaste> what's the easiest way to make a .mp4 video from real format?
[08:41] <eruin> lesshaste, probably vlc
[08:41] <Chillout> HappyFool: i thought so too. mmh, is there a way to generate an output while it tries to configure itself so i can see, what it treis to do?
[08:41] <HappyFool> Chillout: is there not a 'setup.py' in the root directory source, i.e., the directory above Setup (~/Desktop/Bibus-pre-1.0.0a/)
[08:41] <lesshaste> eruin, interesting...
[08:41] <HappyFool> Chillout: otherwise, you can put setup.py up on the pastebin
[08:41] <ricosuave17> isnt it easier just to download a package
[08:42] <ricosuave17> isnt of using apt-get
[08:42] <ashok> well, it says only manual install possible
[08:42] <eruin> lesshaste, not sure about its support for the two types in question, but in general vlc (especially cvs) supports everything on earth
[08:42] <Chillout> HappyFool: yes there is a Setup. i will but this in the pastebin. ok
[08:42] <eruin> it's got a quite simple transcode interface
[08:42] <ricosuave17> well cant u just download a package and install it
[08:42] <zukalk> that's what apt does for you
[08:42] <eruin> ricosuave17, yes, you probably could, provided you have all the dependencies
[08:42] <HappyFool> Chillout: if there's a 'setup.py' in ~/Desktop/Bibus-pre-1.0.0a that is the one to use to install the software
[08:42] <HappyFool> Chillout: the setup.py in Setup/ is probably for something else
[08:43] <normal1> hey where are system icons loaded ?
[08:43] <eruin> apt-get provides those dependencies for you automatically
[08:43] <ricosuave17> but what if it doesnt have a package of the sort i want
[08:43] <HappyFool> normal1: what do you mean by 'system icons' ?
[08:43] <ricosuave17> say opera
[08:43] <eruin> ricosuave17, then you just "dpkg -i opera.deb"
[08:43] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: for opera go to the opera downloads and choose the ubuntu deb
[08:44] <ricosuave17> but how do i know if it has that package or not
[08:44] <normal1> happyfool: i'm making new groups with smeg
[08:44] <eruin> most opensource apps of any value to a desktop user should be in the ubuntu repositories though
[08:44] <eruin> ricosuave17, you can search
[08:44] <normal1> and i want to use the icons already on ubuntu
[08:44] <lesshaste> eruin, what about transcode? or some front end?
[08:44] <normal1> not have to download tham
[08:44] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: I just told you: there's an Ubuntu deb at the Opera download site
[08:44] <Chillout> HappyFool: i seem to come till Line 147 >> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/557
[08:44] <eruin> either using a GUI like synaptic, of "apt-cache search package"
[08:44] <ricosuave17> i know but im talking about other possibities
[08:44] <kbrooks> BTW
[08:44] <lesshaste> eruin, I can't tell who you are talking to
[08:45] <kbrooks> @ nalioth_wrkn
[08:45] <kbrooks> I'm on deian.
[08:45] <kbrooks> debian*
[08:45] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: apt-cache search <keywords>
[08:45] <kbrooks> fuck
[08:45] <ricosuave17> well isnt that an internet list
[08:45] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: or use the search function in synaptic package manager
[08:45] <ricosuave17> well im on windows
[08:46] <HappyFool> normal1: look in /usr/share/icons/ ?
[08:46] <normal1> hmm
[08:46] <HappyFool> Chillout: ok, loading that now
[08:46] <normal1> i'll try that
[08:46] <normal1> thanks
[08:46] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: well, you won't learn Ubuntu on windows, that's for sure ;-)
[08:47] <ricosuave17> i know i just ask b4 i take a decision
[08:47] <ricosuave17> cause im a slackware dude
[08:47] <eruin> ricosuave17, http://appelsinjuice.org/scr.png
[08:47] <alvaro> aaahhhhh~~ ~~ ~~!!! someone help me install mplayer.. i can't enable the gui because it needs GTK devel packages, how do i install that :O
[08:47] <eruin> theres a shot featuring synaptic
[08:48] <eruin> where I've just searched for 'applet'
[08:48] <Sio> ricosuave17, why you on windows then?
[08:48] <eruin> in packagenames only
[08:48] <Sio> if you ask me, ubuntu beats the hell outta slackware and i've used both
[08:48] <thoreauputic> !faq
[08:48] <ubotu> rumour has it, faq is Frequently Asked Questions you can check it out from here ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
[08:48] <ricosuave17> cause i got tired
[08:48] <eruin> alvaro, gtk2?
[08:48] <Sio> tired of slackware?
[08:48] <Sio> ubuntu is much better
[08:48] <ricosuave17> yes
[08:48] <Sio> you'll love it
[08:48] <thoreauputic> ricosuave17: i suggest starting at the bot's URL above
[08:48] <ricosuave17> i might
[08:48] <alvaro> it just says;...
[08:48] <ricosuave17> do u use gaim?
[08:48] <alvaro> Checking for GTK version ...
[08:48] <alvaro> Error: The GUI requires GTK devel packages (which were not found).
[08:48] <alvaro> Check "configure.log" if you do not understand why it failed.
[08:48] <Sionide> i do yeah
[08:49] <ErmaC`> hello i have a fucked up problem with ubuntu :s:s:s:s
[08:49] <eruin> ricosuave17, talking to me?
[08:49] <ricosuave17> yes
[08:49] <FlyingSquirrel32> when I log in as myself I get sound fine, but when I log in as another user no sound. This is a fresh install of ubuntu 5.04
[08:49] <eruin> alvaro, well
[08:49] <samuelk> how do i open port in firewall?
[08:49] <ahrtal123> Hello
[08:49] <eruin> last time I checked mplayer was a shitty old gtk1.2 app
[08:49] <Sionide> xine > mplayer
[08:49] <eruin> alvaro, so "apt-get install libgtk1.2-dev"
[08:49] <Sionide> apt-get install xine
[08:49] <thoreauputic> FlyingSquirrel32: add hte new user to the audio group
[08:50] <eruin> apt-get install totem-xine instead Sionide
[08:50] <eruin> ;)
[08:50] <eruin> then dl w32codecs too
[08:50] <Sionide> or gxine ;)
[08:50] <FlyingSquirrel32> thanks thoreauputic
[08:50] <eruin> ricosuave17, yeah, I use it ;)
[08:50] <ErmaC`> i'm running ubuntu 5.04 but the problem is, i can only choose 640*480 or 800*600 screen resolution and NOT +1024*768 screen resolution, how can i fix this???
[08:50] <eruin> lovely thing
[08:50] <ricosuave17> i dont like it
[08:50] <ErmaC`> i'm running ubuntu 5.04 but the problem is, i can only choose 640*480 or 800*600 screen resolution and NOT +1024*768 screen resolution, how can i fix this???
[08:50] <ricosuave17> it doesnt work good
[08:50] <alvaro> wtf is xine? :P
[08:50] <ricosuave17> thats why i dont run linux
[08:50] <ahrtal123> I need to change my default in GRUB.
[08:51] <alvaro> and how is it xine > mplayer? :P
[08:51] <Sionide> ricosuave17, ubuntu does run good
[08:51] <eruin> works like a charm here
[08:51] <ahrtal123> How can I do this
[08:51] <HappyFool> Chillout: line 168 indicates that the "Config" file is Setup.xcu, in a directory share/registry/data/org/openoffice/
[08:51] <khermans> can someone help me fix a GPG error after adding the Ubuntuguide.org extra repos?
[08:51] <Sionide> ErmaC`, you need to edit your xorg.conf to add the other resolution
[08:51] <kvidell>  /s 1
[08:51] <HappyFool> Chillout: probably /usr/share/registry/  (...etc)
[08:52] <khermans> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[08:52] <eruin> alvaro, xine doesn't have ridicilously ***wad people behind it
[08:52] <Sionide> ErmaC`, sorry, can't do dcc chats mate.
[08:52] <ahrtal123> my father uses windows and gets angry when it starts up UBUNTU
[08:52] <ricosuave17> lol
[08:52] <HappyFool> ahrtal123: you can tell grub to boot windows by default
[08:52] <Chillout> HappyFool: sorry, i dont understand
[08:53] <eruin> ahrtal123, gksudo boot-admin
[08:53] <ricosuave17> i dont understand grub
[08:53] <ahrtal123> how?
[08:53] <khermans> ahrtal123, just change the default boot then
[08:53] <ricosuave17> i use lilo
[08:53] <HappyFool> Chillout: the Config file it's looking for is that file, as far as i can tell (Setup.xcu)
[08:53] <HappyFool> Chillout: do you have that file?
[08:54] <eruin> lilo is overly complicated o.O
[08:54] <ricosuave17> do usb webcams work good
[08:54] <ahrtal123> OK. I just installed this 2 days ago. I am unfamiliar with Linux.
[08:54] <HappyFool> Chillout: you can find out with ls /usr/share/registry/data/org/openoffice/Setup.xcu
[08:54] <alvaro> what is xine anyways? can it play .wmv files?
[08:54] <ahrtal123> I also have to use a serial port Keyboard in GRUB as well
[08:54] <khermans> Anyone know how to fix the BADSIG repository errors?
[08:54] <ahrtal123> Is there anyway to get it to recognize USB
[08:54] <HappyFool> Chillout: or try 'find /usr/share Setup.xcu'  (might take a little while to run)
[08:55] <eruin> alvaro, if you have the w32codecs package (available using the hoary-extras repository at backports.ubuntuforums.org)
[08:55] <eruin> alvaro, I reccommend you use gxine or totem-xine if youre in gnome though
[08:55] <alvaro> i c
[08:55] <Chillout> HappyFool: i will check that
[08:55] <khermans> Anyone ssen this before --> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[08:55] <othernoob> ricosuave17: what's the big difference between lilo and grub?
[08:55] <devios> lsuactiafner: i installed dnsmasq - how do I make my system check there first when resolving things?
[08:56] <ricosuave17> i dont know
[08:56] <ricosuave17> i have never used grub
[08:56] <ricosuave17> i like lilo
[08:56] <ricosuave17> lilo is old school and so am i
[08:56] <Chillout> HappyFool: yes i have that in >> usr/lib/openoffice/share/registry/data/org/openoffice/Setup.xcu
[08:56] <khermans> othernoob, grub lets you change boot settings on the fly
[08:56] <ahrtal123> ok
[08:56] <ahrtal123> great
[08:56] <ricosuave17> never used grub i dont even know what it looks like
[08:57] <ricosuave17> go with lilo and ull be fine
[08:57] <bob2> khermans: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 40976EAF437D05B5 ; gpg --export 40976EAF437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[08:57] <eruin> you should try it
[08:57] <sJaM> ricosuave17, you can still use lilo
[08:57] <eruin> grub is what everyone else is using
[08:57] <eruin> ;)
[08:57] <sJaM> ricosuave17, apt-get install lilo
[08:57] <ahrtal123> I have seen it and tried to use it, but I was unsure about what I was doing
[08:57] <ahrtal123> I have a help file from WIKI
[08:57] <ricosuave17> wait does ubuntu come with grub?
[08:57] <khermans> bob2, but why does this always happen?  shouldn't it be added automatically because the key is on the CD-ROM install?
[08:57] <ahrtal123> yes it does
[08:57] <ricosuave17> othernoob: lilo is easy
[08:57] <ahrtal123> At least the newest version does
[08:57] <ricosuave17> if u get the choice go with lilo
[08:57] <sJaM> you think lilo is easy ricosuave17
[08:58] <bob2> khermans: presumably
[08:58] <sJaM> but grub is easier
[08:58] <ricosuave17> yes
[08:58] <ahrtal123> OK
[08:58] <ricosuave17> lilo == old school [08:58] <othernoob> khermans and lilo doesnt? or were you trying to educate me about grub?
[08:58] <sJaM> no
[08:58] <ahrtal123> also, what IRC program do I use with Linux?
[08:58] <sJaM> grub camed because lilo wasn't so gut
[08:58] <othernoob> ricosuave17: lilo is indeed old...
[08:58] <ricosuave17> yes im old school
[08:58] <ricosuave17> and im 17
[08:58] <Chillout> HappyFool: so why cant it write it?
[08:58] <sJaM> with lilo you have to update your rescue floppy if your upgrade your kernel
[08:58] <ahrtal123> I don't think mIRC is compatible
[08:58] <sJaM> ricosuave17,
[08:58] <eruin> ahrtal123, xchat
[08:59] <ahrtal123> thanks!
[08:59] <othernoob> ahrtal123: xchat, konversation, bitchx......
[08:59] <GigaClon> is there a mass mp3 retagger in linux?
[08:59] <ricosuave17> i dont even have a floopy drive
[08:59] <sJaM> and that calls himself oldschool ;)
[08:59] <hondje> easytag
[08:59] <ahrtal123> ok
[08:59] <HappyFool> Chillout: files in /usr/ aren't usually 'normal'-user writable
[08:59] <bob2> GigaClon: there are thousands
[08:59] <ahrtal123> I am not old school, but I am old
[08:59] <othernoob> sJaM: lol. should have a 5.25 one ;)
[09:00] <HappyFool> Chillout: you can try running this program as root (i.e., super-user)
[09:00] <Chillout> HappyFool: mmh, so what would you suggest me to do?
[09:00] <HappyFool> Chillout: i don't know if this will screw up openoffice or not, though
[09:00] <Chillout> HappyFool: tried that already
[09:00] <bob2> GigaClon: cantus is apparently nice
[09:00] <eruin> the only type of oldschool people in existence are the ones doing LFS
[09:00] <ricosuave17> man i so want a 5.25 drive
[09:00] <ahrtal123> thanks, othernoob
[09:00] <alvaro> when i try installing the fonts and skin for mplayer i get this:
[09:00] <HappyFool> Chillout: that *also* didn't work?
[09:00] <eruin> ... it's frowned upon
[09:00] <othernoob> ahrtal123: yw
[09:00] <Charlie_Snoopy> hi all
[09:00] <ricosuave17> will a 5.25 floppy work on a new comp?
[09:00] <Chillout> HappyFool: nope, same error
[09:00] <ahrtal123> you too eruin
[09:00] <alvaro> root@dsl081-050-234:~ # tar -xjf font-arial-iso-8859-1.tar.bz2
[09:00] <alvaro> tar: font-arial-iso-8859-1.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[09:00] <alvaro> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[09:00] <alvaro> tar: Child returned status 2
[09:00] <alvaro> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[09:01] <sJaM> well it is easy if something overwritten the mbr, just put your grub disk in the drive
[09:01] <HappyFool> Chillout: hmm
[09:01] <bob2> Chillout: why do you want to modify that file?
[09:01] <sJaM> and boot
[09:01] <HappyFool> Chillout: then it isn't finding the file
[09:01] <bob2> alvaro: that just means the file doesn't exist...
[09:01] <sJaM> I helped a friend with it once
[09:01] <HappyFool> alvaro: please don't paste more than 2 lines
[09:01] <Charlie_Snoopy> is there anyone who can help me
[09:01] <GigaClon> bob: is it in the repo?
[09:01] <HappyFool> bob2: he wants to install this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bibus-biblio/
[09:01] <othernoob> ricosuave17: i don't know. i haven't had one in years ;)
[09:01] <bddebian> Charlie_Snoopy: Ask your question and we'll try
[09:01] <bob2> GigaClon: of course, in universe
[09:01] <Chillout> HappyFool: mmh. is there a way to figure out what exactly its problem is?
[09:01] <Charlie_Snoopy> with an install issue with  my ubuntu distro
[09:01] <HappyFool> bob2: the debian package requires python version < 2.4
[09:02] <flexs[prog] > i have installed fluxbox gui, how can i add fluxbox to gdm ?
[09:02] <Charlie_Snoopy> it's easy
[09:02] <HappyFool> Chillout: sorry, i can't do so easily. At this point I'd suggest e-mailing the author
[09:02] <othernoob> ricosuave17: i'd assume that it's quite possible though
[09:02] <sJaM> isn't that automatically done flexs[prog]
[09:02] <flexs[prog] > nop
[09:02] <bddebian> Charlie_Snoopy: So shoot
[09:02] <tiglionabbit> flexs[prog] : write a fluxbox.desktop for /etc/X11/xsessions
[09:02] <flexs[prog] > i installed him from source
[09:02] <Charlie_Snoopy> i put my cd in the cd\dvd player
[09:02] <Charlie_Snoopy> he boots up
[09:03] <Charlie_Snoopy> i select normal install
[09:03] <Chillout> HappyFool: ok, ty for helping so far. its much appreciated.
[09:03] <Charlie_Snoopy> he reads and unzip the image
[09:03] <HappyFool> Chillout: if you *desparately* need to use this software, maybe you could install an appropriate version of debian, but that's fairly extreme
[09:03] <tiglionabbit> you CD has a gender?
[09:03] <tiglionabbit> *your
[09:03] <Charlie_Snoopy> them boots up the kernel
[09:03] <bddebian> hehe
[09:03] <Rockett17> why would anyone need a 5+1/4" drive in this day and age??
[09:03] <Sionide> tiglionabbit, mines a girl
[09:04] <sJaM> don't know
[09:04] <sJaM> why would anyone need lilo ;)
[09:04] <othernoob> Rockett17: for fun, nostalgia...many reasons
[09:04] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: actually the file for gdm sessions is in /usr/share/xsessions
[09:04] <Rockett17> I can see the nostalgia bit..
[09:04] <Charlie_Snoopy> better it never boots up freezes right over there
[09:04] <Rockett17> would be fun to give one to a n00b and watch em put it in the drive ;)
[09:04] <tiglionabbit> oh..  sorry.  Fix up my mistakes, thoreauputic
[09:04] <bddebian> Charlie_Snoopy: Just freezes?  No error, nothing?
[09:04] <sJaM> I was 10 when I was using those
[09:05] <JohnFlux> crimsun: I know have sound working perfectly.  Thanks so much :)
[09:05] <Charlie_Snoopy> anyone got the same problem
[09:05] <sJaM> my neighbour didn't had the new and improved floppy drive
[09:05] <JohnFlux> crimsun: *now
[09:05] <Rockett17> me too sJaM
[09:05] <sJaM> and not the 386 but the 286
[09:05] <JohnFlux> crimsun: (You helped me about an hour ago)
[09:05] <bkinman> 5.25 drive? For retrieving files on old 5.25 disks of course!
[09:05] <flexs[prog] > tiglionabit : i don't have /etc/X11/xsessions file ?
[09:06] <bddebian> Charlie_Snoopy: Have you tried another CD or a live CD?
[09:06] <Big_O> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/552
[09:06] <sJaM> I learned MS-DOS when I was 10
[09:06] <Big_O> hmm
[09:06] <tiglionabbit> My dad still backs everything he does up to floppy disks.  He's written tons of books, but can't type
[09:06] <tiglionabbit> flexs[prog] : sorry, thoreauputic reminds me it's /usr/share/xsessions
[09:06] <sJaM> liked the terminal but I thought DOS was a bit cumbersome
[09:06] <othernoob> tiglionabbit: how does he write the books? by hand?
[09:06] <raven3x7> hello
[09:06] <bddebian> Hello raven3x7
[09:06] <flexs[prog] > ok i try
[09:06] <jugarnatha> can anyone help me to play .avi files or .wmv files using totem (or any other ap that I may or may not have?)
[09:06] <Rockett17> floppy has got the be the worst possible back-up media.. they get frigged up so easy
[09:06] <tiglionabbit> othernoob: well, by typing, but it takes him forever.  He types with two fingers, slowly
[09:07] <zukalk> tiglionabbit, that's an understable mistake if your mothertongue is portuguese ;)
[09:07] <sJaM> yeah
[09:07] <raven3x7> jugarnatha whats the problem
[09:07] <bkinman> Rockett17, i would contest that zip is worse.
[09:07] <othernoob> tiglionabbit: tried to teach him yet?
[09:07] <zukalk> tiglionabbit, i mean the gender thing
[09:07] <sJaM> people make resuce disks
[09:07] <sJaM> with old floppies
[09:07] <sJaM> and then if their comps is broken
[09:07] <tiglionabbit> I've tried to teach him everything, but he doesn't want to learn anything
[09:07] <othernoob> bkinman: why's zip the worst?
[09:07] <sJaM> their rescue disk won't boot surprise surprise
[09:07] <tiglionabbit> I even bought him a USB flash drive
[09:07] <Rockett17> jugarnatha> you will require totem-xine and the w32codecs
[09:07] <jugarnatha> raven3x7: well, I can play mpg's with totem just fine. .avi files play audio but no video, and .wav files give an error message
[09:07] <hodgman> can a user account have an alias.  basiclly allow me to have user bobsmith but be able to log into that same account with just bob through ssh ?
[09:07] <bkinman> othernoob, I have had far more zip disks get corrupted on me than floppies.
[09:07] <tiglionabbit> but he still uses his stupid disks
[09:07] <othernoob> tiglionabbit: he should learn to leave his finger on letters he's going to need soon again
[09:08] <jugarnatha> I have the w32codecs in place, and I think they're pretty recent.
[09:08] <bkinman> othernoob, And zip drives seem more prone to break than any floppy drives i have used.
[09:08] <othernoob> bkinman: a friend of mine luuuuvs his zipdrive
[09:08] <jugarnatha> totem-xine I don't know about.
[09:08] <sJaM> my usbdisk never let me down on linux
[09:08] <sJaM> but windows 98 is a hell (school :@)
[09:08] <luzbelito> how i can install bin2iso ???
[09:08] <sJaM> for usbdisks
[09:08] <sJaM> apt-get install bin2iso
[09:08] <bkinman> USB keys are the own!
[09:09] <jugarnatha> Rockett17 should I do apt-get install totem-xine?
[09:09] <othernoob> bkinman: usb keys suck :p get lost easily
[09:09] <alvaro> is there any alternative to mplayer, im tired of this thing not installing
[09:09] <sJaM> isn't on apt though
[09:09] <Sionide> sJaM, same, my usbdrive (120gig) is awesome on linux but it keeps randomly disconnecting under windows
[09:09] <raven3x7> jugarnatha what rocket said. also you could try mplayer instead of totem-xine though i think totem is easier to use
[09:09] <othernoob> and they're way too expensive
[09:09] <Rockett17> yes jugar, it may require you to remove the other totem
[09:09] <Rockett17> but that's fine
[09:09] <sJaM> well I never understand why school uses W98 for network
[09:09] <Sionide> ErmaC`, any luck?? :)
[09:09] <ErmaC`> hmmz
[09:09] <sJaM> but they have it so poorly secured
[09:09] <ErmaC`> noo
[09:09] <raven3x7> juggarnatha check synaptic
[09:09] <sJaM> just put an fresh image at every reboot
[09:09] <sJaM> and still won't allow you to install anything
[09:10] <sJaM> so I couldn't install the driver
[09:10] <jugarnatha> Rockett17: okay I'll install it and let you know what happens.
[09:10] <spasmodo> Anyone - linux-source-2.6.11...._all.deb
[09:10] <virgule> hodgman: hold on, I have an idea that might just work.. dont be too much enthousiast tho ;)
[09:10] <Rockett17> we have 98 here at the red cross.. but we only use it to get the machines into a ts session .. everything is done on 2k3servers
[09:10] <spasmodo> is that a kernel install package?
[09:10] <Sionide> ErmaC`, ah sucks man :( im prob not the guy to help you then, i'm not THAT good at linux mysef :P
[09:10] <tiglionabbit> my dad is a scientist, but he wastes so much time with his innefficient use of computers that it's ridiculous.  He could get his work done in 1/10th the time he spends.  He also lives in constant fear that windows will explode if he touches anything, but refuses to learn any new software
[09:10] <hodgman> virgule: lol ok
[09:10] <raven3x7> Jugarnatha Rocket117 yes apt will uninstall totem-gstreamer automatically
[09:10] <othernoob> tiglionabbit: i can and respect that fear ;)
[09:11] <tiglionabbit> it takes him longer to type up some handwritten notes he took than it did for him to write them down originally
[09:11] <flexs[prog] > tiglionabbit : but in that file fluxbox.desktop...... leave it empty ?
[09:11] <Rockett17> that's what I figured raven.. I just couldnt remember if it was gstreamer or alsa
[09:11] <tiglionabbit> flexs[prog] : no, look at the other .desktop files
[09:11] <Rockett17> consider me reminded
[09:11] <othernoob> tiglionabbit: but it's sorta ridiculous that a scientist is afraid of a computer :/
[09:11] <alvaro> lol
[09:11] <raven3x7> yeah i did it a couple of days ago so i remembered
[09:11] <tiglionabbit> well, he's a paleontologist, which means he travels around the world bashing rocks and theorizing about different kinds of soil
[09:12] <ErmaC`> can anyone help me i got a resolution problem on ubuntu 5.04.... PM Me
[09:12] <othernoob> lol nice way of describing his job
[09:12] <zukalk> indeed
[09:12] <tiglionabbit> !resulotion
[09:12] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: I give up, what is it?
[09:12] <sJaM> now you get it
[09:12] <tiglionabbit> !resolution
[09:12] <ubotu> methinks resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:12] <ErmaC`> oh thanks ubotu
[09:12] <ErmaC`> didn't know /new to linux you know/
[09:12] <othernoob> tiglionabbit: wouldn't he be easier off with dvorak?
[09:12] <tiglionabbit> ErmaC`: thank us, we put it in ubotu
[09:13] <ErmaC`> hehe
[09:13] <ErmaC`> :p
[09:13] <spasmodo> Anyone - linux-source-2.6.11...._all.deb
[09:13] <othernoob> tiglionabbit:  it's not like he'd notice the difference i assume
[09:13] <virgule> hodgman: damn..--> su: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info <- my idea was to simply duplicate the line with my username in /etc/passwd and to change 'virgule' instances by 'vir' but no go :( I could have worked
[09:13] <ErmaC`> didn't know he's a bot :p
[09:13] <ErmaC`> hehe
[09:13] <tiglionabbit> othernoob: don't you think I've told him that a bazillion times?
[09:13] <ErmaC`> tiglionabbit*
[09:13] <othernoob> tiglionabbit: probably ;) just change it :p
[09:13] <spasmodo> will that install the kernel?
[09:14] <tiglionabbit> how should I ask him?  His immediate response to any sentence with the word "type", "computer", or "software" is "NO!" before I even finish talking
[09:14] <othernoob> tiglionabbit: why ask? when he's not around, change the keyboard ;)
[09:15] <tiglionabbit> he thinks that because one of my computers suffered a power surge in my childhood, that I am a jinx to computers and will kill them if I touch them
[09:15] <sJaM> just install ubuntu on it
[09:15] <sJaM> he wouldn't know the difference
[09:15] <othernoob> lol
[09:15] <thierry> how can I burn dvd iso on ubuntu?
[09:15] <tiglionabbit> othernoob: he would kill me
[09:15] <raven3x7> i've been having some trouble with the nvidia drivers. i was getting a black screen. so i removed all the nvidia stuff including -common and compiled the 6627 driver from nvidia which worked for me on warty and i got some weird errors about not having a usuable screen setup. i removed those as i figured they might not work on x.org and tried 7174 version but got the same errors. any ideas?
[09:15] <ashok> how do i login as admin ?
[09:15] <tiglionabbit> ashok: you are already admin
[09:15] <tiglionabbit> !sudo
[09:15] <ubotu> rumour has it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[09:15] <tiglionabbit> read about sudo
[09:15] <sJaM> sudo su -
[09:15] <sJaM> ashok
[09:15] <tiglionabbit> sJaM: how about "sudo -s" ?
[09:15] <ashok> but to some folders it says that i dont have enough permission
[09:16] <sJaM> does that work too ?
[09:16] <tiglionabbit> ashok: you must use sudo for operations like that
[09:16] <tiglionabbit> sJaM: yup
[09:16] <sJaM> well I always do Applications -> System Tool -> Root terminal
[09:16] <thierry> how can I burn dvd is?
[09:16] <sJaM> only then on a shortcut
[09:16] <thierry> how can I burn dvd iso?
[09:16] <IcemanV9> aww, shucks! NASA called off the launch .. i was hoping to watch it online .. oh well, safety comes first. tsk.
[09:16] <othernoob> tiglionabbit: i have had 2 overheated cpus, 3 dead power surges so far.
[09:16] <sJaM> and I have a pass for root
[09:16] <spasmodo> will a linux-source-2.6.11.....deb install tje kernel?
[09:16] <sJaM> so su -
[09:16] <tiglionabbit> thierry: use k3b
[09:16] <sJaM> also works
[09:16] <othernoob> tiglionabbit: my dad still gets me every month to update norton for him ;)
[09:16] <jcoxon> IcemanV9, yeah its a shame
[09:17] <tiglionabbit> urk, norton, othernoob convert him to http://free.grisoft.com
[09:17] <jcoxon> IcemanV9, apparently if they don't launch in the next couple of days gonna have to wait till september
[09:17] <HappyFool> spasmodo: i believe 2.6.11 is not recommended (or so Seveas usually says)
[09:17] <tiglionabbit> it'll save you a lot of money and bullshit
[09:17] <othernoob> tiglionabbit: i would, in fact, i'd use clamav..but its a company laptop :/
[09:17] <IcemanV9> faulty sensors? are they using win OS? :p
[09:17] <tiglionabbit> company laptop?
[09:17] <spasmodo> HappyFool - thanks
[09:17] <tiglionabbit> well I gotta eat, I'll be right back
[09:17] <chrissturm> odd minor versions are unstable in the linux kernel since 2.6.11
[09:18] <othernoob> tiglionabbit: yea, provided by his company..can't do shit on it..slow as fuck..
[09:18] <jcoxon> IcemanV9, :)
[09:18] <sJaM> hmm sudo remembers passwords
[09:18] <IcemanV9> jcoxon: thought it would be so cool to see it online .. will either wait 'til couple days or Sept
[09:18] <jcoxon> IcemanV9, yeah - we need to go back to space :)
[09:18] <othernoob> chrissturm: the odd versions were always unstable..not just since 2.6.11
[09:18] <sJaM> thanks tiglionabbit for the 3rd option
[09:19] <virgule> sJaM: it will forget after some inactivity.
[09:19] <tiglionabbit> jcoxon: what, is there some clause that he can't change anything on it?
[09:19] <sJaM> well I always think it is handy to have a root terminal open
[09:19] <spasmodo> duh - I knew that about odd versions
[09:19] <spasmodo> thanks
[09:19] <jcoxon> tiglionabbit, think you got the wrong person :)
[09:19] <tiglionabbit> oops
[09:19] <tiglionabbit> othernoob:
[09:19] <jcoxon> tiglionabbit, i was talking about the NASA space launch
[09:20] <raven3x7> does anyone know if the vesa drivers support any 3d accel?
[09:20] <othernoob> tiglionabbit: yea well, yes. they'd freak..all he's allowed to do is enter his data, send it to them. and print..yay what fun
[09:20] <tiglionabbit> I'm getting more and more lazy with my tab completion.  I'm starting to use just one letter on it, and sometimes I type the wrong one
[09:20] <sJaM> hehe
[09:21] <sJaM> epiphany doesn't have popup blocker
[09:21] <sJaM> :(
[09:21] <IcemanV9> sJaM: check the preference .. it does sorta of won't allow popup windows
[09:21] <othernoob> tiglionabbit: his company is shit with computers..last time they didn't even provide printer drivers.
[09:22] <wrtpeeps> hello
[09:22] <wrtpeeps> i just have to say, ubuntu is excellent.
[09:22] <GigaClon> hello
[09:22] <sJaM> but then you havent any popups
[09:22] <ricosuave17> what is the newest realeze of uvuntu
[09:22] <IcemanV9> correct, sJaM
[09:22] <wrtpeeps> for a new person to linux, this is way better than what i expected
[09:22] <chrissturm> othernoob, 2.6.11 is unstable, 2.6.12 is stable , 2.6.13 is unstable  , 2.6,14 is stable, etc
[09:22] <othernoob> 5.04 ricosuave17
[09:22] <GigaClon> Hoary
[09:22] <sJaM> so it doesn't block unwanted popus
[09:22] <othernoob> chrissturm: eh, i know
[09:22] <sJaM> I missed a word :D
[09:22] <Ubuntian> how do I know which kernel I use and how to download the kernel headers for that kernel?
[09:22] <raven3x7> noone? does anyone know if the vesa drivers support any 3d accel?
[09:22] <Discipulus> hmm
[09:22] <seth_k> Ubuntian: what processor do you have?
[09:22] <Discipulus> what's Amd64 asm like?
[09:22] <Discipulus> difficult?
[09:23] <Ubuntian> pentium 3
[09:23] <chrissturm> othernoob, and thats the case since 2.6.11
[09:23] <sJaM> same just some extensions I guess Discipulus
[09:23] <othernoob> Ubuntian: type uname -a
[09:23] <Ubuntian> k
[09:23] <GigaClon> how do a do a for loop that loops thru the contents of a folder?
[09:23] <Discipulus> sJaM, ah, alright
[09:23] <ricosuave17> hoary??? is it tyhat one?
[09:23] <ulaas> i can mount memory stick on my sony k750 but cannot write. folders are 755. any ideas. I ve tried -rw
[09:23] <GigaClon> yeah
[09:23] <AndyR> raven3x7, im pretty sure they dont
[09:23] <HappyFool> GigaClon: 'for i in *; do echo $i; done'
[09:23] <eruin> chrissturm, eh... you're quite wrong
[09:23] <GigaClon> hoary = 5.04
[09:24] <sJaM> at least that what looks to me reasonable ?
[09:24] <haven_> Is there a way to drop to the console instead of loading gnome at computer startup?
[09:24] <dohpaz> I've updated my us.archive to ca.archive and when trying to install Gnet I continually get the error "Package libgnet2.0-0 has no available version, but exists in the database." which will not let me install Pan. What else can I do?
[09:24] <eruin> 2.4 was stable, 2.5 was unstable, 2.6 is stable
[09:24] <ErmaC`> hmmz
[09:24] <othernoob> chrissturm: and that wasn't like that before with 2.4 and the others? no, couldnt be....
[09:24] <ricosuave17> ok im confused
[09:24] <Ubuntian> someone knows how to download the kernel headers for 2.6.10?
[09:24] <ricosuave17> with the new realaeze
[09:24] <ricosuave17> help me
[09:24] <thoreauputic> wrtpeeps: if no one else has said it: Welcome to Ubuntu!
[09:24] <ErmaC`> can someone send me a defauld xorg.conf file? so i can use it as a backupfile? cuz i don't know if i edited my file well now?
[09:24] <eruin> the minor release numbers after that are only a sign of the maturity of the branch
[09:24] <ErmaC`> can someone send me a defauld xorg.conf file? so i can use it as a backupfile? cuz i don't know if i edited my file well now?
[09:24] <othernoob> ricosuave17: the next release will be breezy. in 5.10 afaik
[09:24] <Ubuntian> othernoob, thanks it work
[09:24] <wims> How do i config my xorg.conf so i can make use of the back and forth buttons i have on my mouse?
[09:24] <othernoob> Ubuntian: you're welcome
[09:25] <ErmaC`> wim
[09:25] <ErmaC`> wims
[09:25] <ricosuave17> ok so i get hoary or normal 5.04
[09:25] <chrissturm> othernoob, before it was like that: 2.5= unstable, 2.6 =stable, 2.3 = unstable
[09:25] <ErmaC`> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:25] <ErmaC`> wims
[09:25] <chrissturm> eruin, that changed after 2.6.11 :)
[09:25] <ErmaC`> $$
[09:25] <ErmaC`> ^
[09:25] <eruin> hoary IS 5.04, ricosuave17
[09:25] <ErmaC`> can someone send me a defauld xorg.conf file? so i can use it as a backupfile? cuz i don't know if i edited my file well now?
[09:25] <othernoob> chrissturm: i know. don't take my name seriously.
[09:25] <ricosuave17> but it shows 2 different folders
[09:25] <AndyR> Ubuntian, use synaptic and search for kernel
[09:25] <haven_> Hello?
[09:25] <eruin> are they trying to fool me into believing 2.6.12 is stable?
[09:25] <wrtpeeps> thoreauputic: thanks! i love it, and don't expect to use anything else :D
[09:25] <eruin> 2.6.12 is an UTTER piece of fkin crap
[09:26] <ErmaC`> can someone send me a defauld xorg.conf file? so i can use it as a backupfile? cuz i don't know if i edited my file well now?
[09:26] <thoreauputic> wrtpeeps: good to hear :)
[09:26] <othernoob> eruin 2.6.12 is the latest stable kernle according to kernel.org ;)
[09:26] <Seveas> eruin, 2.6.12 is not available for hoary
[09:26] <Seveas> do not use it on hoary
[09:26] <eruin> I use it on breezy
[09:26] <chrissturm> othernoob, hehe sorry then
[09:26] <ErmaC`> :'(
[09:26] <Seveas> eruin, breezy is even more unstable
[09:26] <Seveas> don't complain.
[09:26] <othernoob> chrissturm:  no problem ;)
[09:26] <eruin> err, or rather, I'd like to but can't
[09:27] <eruin> Seveas, I'm not complaining
[09:27] <limer> anyone know of a good cli nntp client (binaries)?
[09:27] <mumbles> wow.. comptue room was far to hot
[09:27] <wrtpeeps> thoreauputic: i must congradulate you on a very simple installer
[09:27] <Seveas> eruin, sure...
[09:27] <ErmaC`> Sionide can i get your xorg.conf file? so i can use it as a backup?
[09:27] <ErmaC`> grrrr
[09:27] <thoreauputic> wrtpeeps: heh - don't congratulate me - i'm just a user ;)
[09:27] <raven3x7> AndyR thanks. i suspectes as much. at least 2d works properly the nv driver sucks and nvidia wont work
[09:27] <Ubuntian> AndyR, there are headers there but not for the 2.6.10
[09:27] <Seveas> fyi, the kernel itself is perfectly stable. some userland tools just need to be adapted and that's the job for othrs (and that's being done in breezy now)
[09:28] <thoreauputic> wrtpeeps: the installer is actually the Debian Sarge installer with a few tweaks
[09:28] <ulaas> ErmaC. Go to pastebin
[09:28] <wrtpeeps> it is VERY easy
[09:28] <wrtpeeps> and fast
[09:29] <Ubuntian> ok i got it, thanks all
[09:29] <wrtpeeps> hmmm, where can i get 'mp3 decoders' to play mp3's
[09:29] <Seveas> wrtpeeps: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[09:29] <AndyR> popey, howdy :)
[09:29] <othernoob> Seveas: would you happen to know who comes up with the ubuntu release names?
[09:29] <raven3x7> Ubuntian search for inux-headers not kernel
[09:29] <wrtpeeps> wow, he types fast...
[09:29] <ulaas> ErmaC' , and get rid of that  ' sign at the end of your nick.....
[09:29] <Seveas> othernoob, sabdfl (aka Mark Shuttleworth)
[09:29] <thoreauputic> wrtpeeps: some people complain about the lack of a GUI installer... as you say, the existing one is very simple and quick
[09:29] <othernoob> Seveas: thanks
[09:30] <gm78> this is really off-topic, but u know what i wish someone would invent....a mouse that actually works :P
[09:30] <thoreauputic> wrtpeeps: some people have their IRC clients set up with aliases for frequently asked questions ;)
[09:30] <limer> anyone know of a good cli nntp client (binaries)?
[09:31] <Seveas> thoreauputic, you got me :)
[09:31] <mumbles> get a optical one
[09:31] <spasmodo> can I say to not format /home when I reinstall?
[09:31] <gm78> spasmodo, is it on a seperate partition?
[09:31] <spasmodo> it is on a different HD
[09:31] <Seveas> spasmodo, you can
[09:31] <spasmodo> nice
[09:31] <othernoob> spasmodo: yes, manual partitioning
[09:31] <spasmodo> cool
[09:31] <thoreauputic> Seveas: heh - ah well, one day I'll get around to doing the same here :)
[09:31] <spasmodo> is that in expert, or normal?
[09:31] <gangalee> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive?highlight=%28add%29%7C%28partition%29 is what I was asking for all along
[09:31] <wrtpeeps> thoreauputic: how do i install 'gstreamer0.8-mad'
[09:31] <othernoob> spasmodo: both afaik
[09:31] <wrtpeeps> it says i need that
[09:32] <spasmodo> sweet
[09:32] <spasmodo> time to get it done
[09:32] <gm78> wrtpeeps, search for it in synaptic
[09:32] <spasmodo> thanks all
[09:32] <Seveas> thoreauputic, want my FAQ script?
[09:32] <dj28> is there any way i can remove postfix from my system without apt removing ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop? it seems stupid.
[09:32] <hodgman> virgule: thanks for trying though :)
[09:32] <gm78> wrtpeeps, u need to have universe and multiverse enabled
[09:32] <thoreauputic> wrtpeeps: from the commandline, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:32] <wrtpeeps> i tried that thoreauputic
[09:32] <gm78> dj28, removing ubuntu-base and desktop wont hurt anything
[09:32] <thoreauputic> wrtpeeps: you willl need repositories
[09:32] <wrtpeeps> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:32] <thoreauputic> !repositories
[09:32] <Seveas> gm78, well.....
[09:32] <ubotu> somebody said repositories was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:33] <dj28> gm78: how will it not when i fucking use it?
[09:33] <Seveas> it might hurt on upgrades to not have them installed
[09:33] <gm78> dj28, they are empty packages that just rely on the base system
[09:33] <thoreauputic> wrtpeeps: read the bot's URL
[09:33] <dj28> that doesn't make sense
[09:33] <gm78> dj28, lol, waiting for my answer would have worked better than swearing at me
[09:33] <dj28> why would ubuntu-base be empty
[09:33] <dohpaz> I cannot get Pan to install because it continually complains that gnet is no longer available to install. When I try to install gnet it tells me the package is no longer available. I'm not using the reported broken us mirror anymore, and I still get the same errors. I just installed Hoary last night. I need help, please. :)
[09:33] <gm78> dj28, it is incase u dont have gnome installed, u just install ubuntu-desktop and it will install everything for u
[09:33] <dj28> and why would it remove an empty package
[09:34] <gm78> dj28, trust me, the package is empty
[09:34] <thoreauputic> wrtpeeps: basically you add universe and multiverse for your repos
[09:34] <virgule> hodgman: np.. I googled a bit but couldnt find clues. thats a good idea you could bring to the developer's hear
[09:34] <HappyFool> he doesn't have to trust you, he can run 'dpkg -L ubuntu-base'
[09:34] <gm78> dj28, it is called a dummy package, it is just there to rely on other packages
[09:35] <gm78> dj28, i dont have it on mine but i have gnome running right now
[09:35] <dj28> so if it's there for a reason, will it break anything by removing it? furthermore, why the hell does postfix depend on ubuntu-desktop?
[09:35] <mumbles> questio n
[09:35] <wrtpeeps> thoreauputic: once i have enabled universe, i just do the sudo apt-get thing?
[09:35] <mumbles> if i buy a creative live 5.1 sound card will ubuntu work ?
[09:35] <gm78> dj28, it shouldnt, i have postfix installed but not ubuntu-desktop....r u sure its not the other way around? that ubuntu-desktop depends on postfix?
[09:35] <dj28> hm
[09:35] <mumbles> sill work if i put it in
[09:36] <thoreauputic> wrtpeeps: first you do sudo apt-get update
[09:36] <dj28> hold on and i'll paste the apt output (4 lines)
[09:36] <wrtpeeps> yea
[09:36] <thoreauputic> to update the database of packages
[09:36] <dj28> root@greaselap:/home/dj28 # apt-get remove postfix
[09:36] <dj28> Reading package lists... Done
[09:36] <dj28> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:36] <dj28> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[09:36] <dj28>   anacron at lsb mailx mutt postfix postfix-tls ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop
[09:36] <raven3x7> anyone else having mplayer conflict with nvidia drivers installation?
[09:36] <dj28> this is a desktop system.. i don't really need a mail server running
[09:37] <wrtpeeps> ok, so once i have installed gstreamer0.8-mad i can play mp3 via rythmbox
[09:37] <thoreauputic> dj28: please read the channel topic and use a pastebin
[09:37] <wrtpeeps> ?
[09:37] <HappyFool> i'm not sure that removing anacron is a good idea. or att
[09:37] <HappyFool> at, even
[09:37] <thoreauputic> wrtpeeps: you should be able to, yes
[09:37] <HappyFool> dj28: it doesn't really do any harm, and that is how messages sent to root will reach you
[09:37] <gm78> dj28, that is normal. basically, ubuntu-desktop and base are empty packages, say all u have is cli utilities installed. u just type apt-get install ubuntu-desktop instead of going through and installing all of gnome individually, it is just for conveniance....removing it wont affect ur system at all
[09:37] <HappyFool> dj28: well, at least i think that mail is handled by postfix; i may be wrong
[09:38] <dj28> gm78: ok that's all i need to know. thanks ;)
[09:38] <dj28> so it won't remove gnome?
[09:38] <gm78> dj28, no prob
[09:38] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: yes, postfix does local delivery IIRC
[09:38] <gm78> dj28, nope...i am running gnome and dont have it installed
[09:38] <black-whisp> does anyone know wheter there is a gnutella client for linux=
[09:38] <wrtpeeps> thoreauputic: 1 more thing, all my mp3's are netwroked on another computer, how do i browse across that network (i can get to it via places/network servers) so i know it is set up right
[09:38] <dj28> ok thanks
[09:38] <gm78> dj28, welcome
[09:38] <wrtpeeps> this is to add to the playlist
[09:38] <gm78> black-whisp, limewire, gtk-gnutella...and i believe a few more
[09:39] <thoreauputic> wrtpeeps: you should be able to use the file manager (nautilus)
[09:39] <black-whisp> gm78: thx. :)
[09:39] <gm78> black-whisp, welcome
[09:39] <wrtpeeps> yea, but i need to get across via rhythmbox, to add songs to the playlist
[09:39] <geargolem> having trouble installing cbrpager
[09:39] <subjectdenied> hi
[09:39] <basti> hey I get following errors:
[09:39] <basti> WARNING: No appropriate sound libraries found.
[09:39] <basti> You can still compile Ultimate Stunts, but
[09:39] <basti> sound will not be available
[09:39] <basti> WARNING: SDL library not found
[09:39] <basti> You may still be able to compile the non-graphical programs,
[09:39] <basti> but that is not guaranteed
[09:39] <ulaas> i can mount memory stick on my sony k750 but cannot write. folders are 755. any ideas. I ve tried -rw
[09:39] <basti> what to do?
[09:39] <queuetue> How do I give ssh (or really, scp) a password on the command line?
[09:39] <thoreauputic> wrtpeeps: if it is a windows network, you may need samba support (I only have Linux on my network so I'm using NFS)
[09:40] <subjectdenied> my harddisk seems to turn on and off evey 10 seconds
[09:40] <othernoob> basti: well, that's a tough one, maybe use pastebin next time? ;)
[09:40] <subjectdenied> could this be a linux problem?
[09:40] <basti> sorry
[09:40] <wrtpeeps> k
[09:40] <gm78> basti, please use pastebin. anyways, install the -dev packages for those things using synaptic
[09:40] <geargolem> Help installing a program, please.
[09:40] <gm78> subjectdenied, what do u mean off and on? does it literally shut off so u cant use it?
[09:40] <basti> what packages?
[09:40] <medgno> can anyone help me setting up a tv tuner card?
[09:40] <geargolem> cbrpage
[09:41] <thoreauputic> queuetue: it should prompt you for a password
[09:41] <subjectdenied> gm78: it sounds like it's parking
[09:41] <gm78> medgno, which kind of card? like which chipset
[09:41] <medgno> gm78, bttv
[09:41] <subjectdenied> and yes the whole systems seems to freeze then
[09:41] <gm78> medgno, should already be working, u tried tvtime?
[09:41] <medgno> yep
[09:41] <queuetue> thoreauputic, In a script. :)
[09:41] <basti> whjat sound libs do I need?
[09:41] <gm78> medgno, which model number for the card...like who made it?
[09:41] <subjectdenied> i'm in breezy now, but i had this problem in hoary too
[09:41] <othernoob> subjectdenied: and it doesn't do that in windows?
[09:41] <limer> woot.  "tin" sounds good for cli nntp :D
[09:41] <medgno> I can use the S-Video input, but trying to tune broadcast tv, not working
[09:42] <subjectdenied> i'm not sure
[09:42] <jugarnatha> Rockett17: thanks that worked
[09:42] <wrtpeeps> hmmm
[09:42] <gm78> subjectdenied, hmmmm....i still dont get what u mean :P
[09:42] <medgno> it's a "Leadtek Winfast tv 2000xp"
[09:42] <subjectdenied> i don't use it that often since ubuntu was released ;-)
[09:42] <othernoob> subjectdenied: well make sure then :P
[09:42] <subjectdenied> could this be due to harddisk errors?
[09:42] <dohpaz> I cannot get Pan to install because it continually complains that gnet is no longer available to install. When I try to install gnet it tells me the package is no longer available. I'm not using the reported broken us mirror anymore, and I still get the same errors. I just installed Hoary last night. I need help, please. :)
[09:42] <othernoob> sounds more like a hardware prob though.
[09:42] <gm78> medgno, what does it do when u open tvtime?
[09:42] <othernoob> old hdds?
[09:43] <JohnFlux> how do I get the 'win' key to work?
[09:43] <subjectdenied> yes, old hdds
[09:43] <bddebian> Install Windows?
[09:43] <JohnFlux> i assume i need to chose a different keyboard layout?
[09:43] <JohnFlux> bddebian: :P
[09:43] <othernoob> subjectdenied: maybe they're about to die ;)
[09:43] <medgno> I get a blue screen, saying "no signal"
[09:43] <subjectdenied> is this the normal sign of harddisks going to hell?
[09:43] <gm78> JohnFlux, u can set it up in gnome-keybinding-properties
[09:43] <thoreauputic> queuetue: ah, then you may want to set up passwordless ssh - see http://www.securitydocs.com/library/3385 for example
[09:43] <XRayNuke> JohnFlux: you must ask yourself the question "What do I want it to work as?"
[09:43] <JohnFlux> gm78: and in kde ;0
[09:44] <othernoob> subjectdenied: well it's not a healthy sign
[09:44] <JohnFlux> XRayNuke: kde uses it for the K menu
[09:44] <abbot45> do you guys know what that one online tv show is about that kid that is running the dvd pirating group, where it shows his IRC conversations and stuff?  im trying to find it again.
[09:44] <gm78> medgno, can u post the output of lspci that is releevant to the card?
[09:44] <SS2> good evening, somebody here that uses inkscape?
[09:44] <gm78> JohnFlux, lol, no clue then
[09:44] <SS2> having problems with the knot points
[09:44] <medgno> 0000:04:02.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)
[09:44] <limer> abbot45, google for "thescene"
[09:44] <subjectdenied> is it possible to "mark" the errors by reformating the harddisk?
[09:44] <queuetue> thoreauputic, Why doesn't ssh support password on the commandline?  I don't especially *want* to put my site's security in the hands of a file that I need ot keep an eye on now...
[09:44] <carambol> hi i have install realplayer with apt but it cant startup
[09:44] <abbot45> limer: thanks, i had just forgot the name.
[09:45] <limer> abbot45: yw :D
[09:45] <hex_ffff> Does anyone know how to get the current running program to show up in the tabs in gnome-terminal?
[09:45] <othernoob> subjectdenied: i have no idea what you mean by mark
[09:45] <subjectdenied> so no data is written to the areas that are phyisically corrupt?
[09:45] <thoreauputic> queuetue: umm... ssh *does* support passwords on the commandline
[09:45] <gm78> carambol, post the output of ps -A | grep esd
[09:45] <eruin> Quest-Master, since when didnt ssh support that?
[09:45] <inglorion> hi, i have some settings in .xmodmaprc that i would like loaded whenever i log in, but i accidentally disabled the dialog that lets me specify to load these automatically. how can i get that dialog back?
[09:45] <queuetue> thoreauputic, in a script?
[09:45] <carambol> ok,gm78
[09:45] <gm78> medgno, can u post the output of lsmod | grep bttv
[09:46] <truz24> What ubuntu package will allow me to run php scripts on the command line ?
[09:46] <medgno> gm78, should I /msg you?
[09:46] <gm78> medgno, start a pm with me using the /query command
[09:46] <subjectdenied> by mark i mean, telling the os not to use the area which are corrupt
[09:46] <thoreauputic> queuetue: surely you can write the script so that it will prompt for a password when needed?
[09:46] <subjectdenied> low-level format?
[09:47] <Quest-Master> eruin: Huh?
[09:47] <othernoob> i dont think so.
[09:47] <carambol> gm78,rudi@h90238:~$ ps -A |grep esd
[09:47] <carambol>  6979 ?        00:00:19 esd
[09:47] <carambol>  6981 ?        00:00:00 esd
[09:47] <carambol> rudi@h90238:~$
[09:47] <gm78> carambol, killall esd and then try running realplayer
[09:48] <carambol> ok
[09:48] <queuetue> thoreauputic, and how do I give that password *to* scp?  There does not appear to be a commandline switch for it. :)
[09:49] <gm78> If I put an executable shell script in /etc/init.d will it automatically be run on each boot?
[09:49] <sJaM> can you specify a password on the commandline with ssh ?
[09:49] <hondje> queuetue: You need to use keys for that, as far as I know
[09:49] <sJaM> doesn't look very safe to me
[09:49] <carambol> thnx gm78
[09:50] <chrissturm> sJaM, better use public key authentication
[09:50] <thoreauputic> queuetue: well, I guess someone else will have to answer that - I use public/private key pairs so passwords aren't an issue
[09:50] <sJaM> why not using ssh-agent && ssh-add
[09:50] <sJaM> I do chrissturm
[09:50] <subjectdenied> is it possible to check a harddisk for physical errors even when linux is installed on it?
[09:50] <gm78> carambol, go to System >> Preferences >> Sound and shut off Enable sound server startup so u dont have to do that each time
[09:50] <gm78> carambol, no prob
[09:50] <chrissturm> sJaM, :D
[09:51] <spasmodo> I am going to reinstall
[09:51] <spasmodo> but I am going to save my /etc to reuse
[09:51] <spasmodo> what else?
[09:51] <carambol> its all ok ,gm78
[09:51] <carambol> i am lissing to bbc with real now
[09:51] <gm78> carambol, alright
[09:52] <carambol> many thanks
[09:52] <gm78> carambol, if u dont do that, u will need to run killall esd everytime u login tho
[09:52] <subjectdenied> is lists.ubuntu.com down at the moment?
[09:52] <carambol> the server i had enabled before already
[09:53] <mumbles> what was the last thing i said ?
[09:53] <thoreauputic> subjectdenied: can't ping it from here
[09:53] <subjectdenied> ok thanks
[09:53] <dohpaz> hello?
[09:54] <hondje> hi
[09:54] <carambol> server was already enabled, gm78
[09:54] <spasmodo> hello dohpaz
[09:54] <gm78> carambol, oh, ok
[09:54] <dohpaz> oh good; i am being seen... just ignored.
[09:54] <spasmodo> sorry dohpaz
[09:54] <hondje> I was going to admit seeing you earlier when you asked, but it sounded too angsty for me to want to get into
[09:54] <spasmodo> what;s up?
[09:54] <othernoob> dohpaz: that's life, isn't it wonderful ;)
[09:55] <dohpaz> oh especially wonderful....
[09:55] <sJaM> angsty, hondje are you dutch ?
[09:55] <Romzhv> hello every1
[09:55] <hondje> No
[09:56] <dohpaz> i need help installing pan, or more specifically gnet which pan requires but is not available for me to install.
[09:56] <hondje> I'm snoodaard-ese
[09:57] <hondje> dohpaz: sudo apt-get install pan doesn't work?
[09:58] <TokenBad> hondje, comcast is going to send out a tech
[09:58] <hondje> TokenBad: nice :)
[09:58] <TokenBad> guess they couldn't tell what was wrong
[09:58] <tony__> hi all
[09:58] <hondje> TokenBad: How'd you twist them into admiting it was broke?
[09:58] <dohpaz> hondje, why would the cli work and not synaptic?
[09:58] <TokenBad> told them what the logs said
[09:58] <SDFH_Linux> guys is it safe to move up to gcc 4.0?
[09:58] <TokenBad> and basicly said I know something is wrong
[09:59] <hondje> dohpaz: I dunno, I've not messed with synaptic much
[09:59] <TokenBad> been in computers for 15 years
[09:59] <TokenBad> so can't tell me something isn't wrong
[09:59] <thoreauputic> dohpaz: there doesn't seem to be a package called gnet - libgnet2.0-0
[09:59] <thoreauputic>  perhaps??
[09:59] <tony__> short q i couldnt find the answer to.. feel free to answer... I am lacking "checking for libz... configure: error: not found." what pack do i need to get ?
[09:59] <hex_ffff> Does anyone know how to get the current running program to show up in the tabs in gnome-terminal?
[09:59] <hex_ffff> it works on debian
[09:59] <hondje> gnet is a listed as the dep for the pan pkg, it should go automagically :-/
[09:59] <hex_ffff> but no ubuntu
[09:59] <hex_ffff> not
[10:00] <SDFH_Linux> guys is it safe to move up to gcc 4.0?
[10:00] <gm78> Does anyone know how to set up a shell script to run in /etc/init.d at every boot?
[10:00] <hondje> SDFH_Linux: Depends on what you define safe as
[10:00] <SDFH_Linux> will it break anything?
[10:00] <HappyFool> SDFH_Linux: have you asked in #gcc? there are probably a variety of considerations
[10:00] <hondje> I would, but not for something in production
[10:00] <gverig> Anybody knows how bootlog is called in ubuntu? I am booting into runlevel 2 with no sound (with GDM). I want to check why I am in runlevel 2. and where is my sound :)
[10:00] <hondje> SDFH_Linux: yeah, like gettext
[10:01] <thoreauputic> hex_ffff: it's probably set up in .bashrc or /etc/bash.bashrc on debian - have you looked at those files at all ?
[10:01] <HappyFool> gverig: runlevel 2 is the default
[10:01] <dohpaz> hondje, thank you for helping me solve this problem.
[10:01] <thoreauputic> hex_ffff: Ubuntu seems to show the working directory instead
[10:01] <hondje> dohpaz: you're welcome
[10:01] <HappyFool> gverig: have you looked in /var/log/syslog, /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/messages?
[10:01] <gverig> HappyFool: ? Isn't runlevel 5 usually default? BTW, why does Ubuntu have all runlevels with GDM and stuff?
[10:02] <HappyFool> gverig: runlevel 5 = GUI is a redhat thing (maybe suse too, i don't know)
[10:02] <gverig> HappyFool: Yup, looking there too but I don't think boot sequence is there
[10:02] <thoreauputic> gm78: have a look at the update-rc.d command
[10:02] <hondje> suse does it too I think
[10:02] <gverig> HappyFool: Really? I thought it is a standard...
[10:02] <HappyFool> gverig: could be, i dunno ;)
[10:02] <spasmodo> gm78 - you could install the Ubuntu Boot Up Manager
[10:02] <spasmodo> and do it with a GUI
[10:02] <gverig> HappyFool: OK, will look into messages and stuff...
[10:02] <hondje> Debian follows all standards better than RH does :)
[10:03] <nikkia> HappyFool: its a SysV thing
[10:03] <HappyFool> gverig: anyway, you can switch off gdm if it bugs you. For sound, take a look on the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TitleIndex
[10:03] <hondje> I think only 0 and 6 are reserved
[10:03] <nikkia> redhat just copied them :)
[10:03] <HappyFool> nikkia: ok. who did debian copy?
[10:03] <nikkia> happy, noone
[10:03] <HappyFool> nikkia: *gasp*
[10:03] <gm78> spasmodo, which package is that? i searched for it in synaptic and couldnt find it
[10:04] <spasmodo> gm78
[10:04] <spasmodo> I thinkit is in extras?
[10:04] <spasmodo> not sure shich repo
[10:04] <spasmodo> it works well though
[10:04] <gm78> spasmodo, well i have all the repos enabled. i remember looking for it before and not being able to find it
[10:04] <spasmodo> hmm
[10:04] <gverig> HappyFool: I had sound just this morning (until I got network problems and had to reboot...)
[10:04] <din>  /j fedora
[10:04] <din> oops
[10:05] <spasmodo> gm78 I am not in ubuntu now sadly, so I can not look
[10:05] <TokenBad> power levels on my download is way low
[10:05] <gverig> HappyFool: I can't find any mention of ESD or ALSA in any of the logs you mentioned.
[10:05] <gverig> anywho, bbl (30 min), sorry
[10:05] <HappyFool> gverig: eek. i've had bad luck helping people with sound ;). Take a look at alsamixer -- maybe a channel has become muted
[10:05] <hex_ffff> Does anyone know how to get the current running program to show up in the tabs in gnome-terminal? Are there xml configs that change the behavior?
[10:05] <DukGalNamu> hey guys, how do i make a program non dependent on the terminal that is running it?
[10:05] <spasmodo> gm: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#bum
[10:05] <nightswim> xpde
[10:05] <carambol> gm78,but i lost the events sounds
[10:06] <gm78> carambol, yeah, esd doesnt play nice with alsa
[10:06] <HappyFool> gverig: also sometimes channels *need* to be muted (weird line-in channels was one example i encountered)
[10:06] <FlyingSquirrel32> when I use connect to server, what's going on in the background? Is the remote filesystem being mounted somewhere?
[10:06] <carambol> is it not better to use alsa?
[10:06] <FlyingSquirrel32> where can I get more info aout it?
[10:06] <ompaul> nightswim, thank you very mich
[10:06] <thoreauputic> gm78: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=75  << boot up manager
[10:06] <gijosh> Hey.  I'm about to install gcc.  Which package should I use?
[10:06] <HappyFool> gijosh: build-essential
[10:06] <ompaul> nightswim, thank you very much (even :))
[10:06] <cmatheson> gijosh: build-essential
[10:07] <hondje> FlyingSquirrel32: what kind of server?
[10:07] <hondje> nfs, yes, web no, etc
[10:07] <Thorrn4> hello!! I was wondering; how can I mount a Win NTFS harddrive so that I can take the data off of it?
[10:07] <carambol> gm78 if i use alsa and OSS will it not be better?
[10:07] <DukGalNamu> hey guys, how do i make a program non dependent on the terminal that is running it???
[10:07] <FlyingSquirrel32> hondje :well, I usually use it to connect to smb shares
[10:07] <antoranz> I'm having this problem with squid
[10:07] <gijosh> Happy Fool: cmatheson: Thanks
[10:07] <hondje> Thorrn4: mount -t ntfs /dev/hd?? /path/to/mount I think
[10:07] <ce33na> Thorrn4: make an adition to /etc/fstab
[10:07] <antoranz> if I use a mutltipath route, squid goes nuts
[10:08] <devios> anyone see that Linspire news that they are gonna include transgaming's stuff out of the box?
[10:08] <gm78> carambol, yeah, but the event sounds rely on esd
[10:08] <smite> hi ppl... ubuntu owns so bad =D
[10:08] <antoranz> anybody has an idea of what could be wrong?
[10:08] <ce33na> Thorrn4: or you could temporarily mount it also
[10:08] <hondje> FlyingSquirrel32: easy way to check is to open a terminal and type 'mount'....that'll show you what is mounted where
[10:08] <smite> anyone know a way to convert a file from little to big endian? specifically a tif and convert -endian doesn't do anything
[10:08] <carambol> ok...no way the solve this?, gm78
[10:08] <Thorrn4> ce33na, that would be betetr
[10:08] <ce33na> temp?
[10:08] <hondje> FlyingSquirrel32: But SMB doesn't mount things afaik, unless you use smbmount
[10:08] <DukGalNamu> devios: no WAY thats kind of cool.... but linspire charges like crazy for things debian comes stock with....
[10:09] <hondje> smite: though you steal my name, I will be nice and tell you to use imagemagick
[10:09] <yourghetek> how do i know what the display # is on my system?
[10:09] <hondje> :)
[10:09] <ErmaC`> can someone help me?
[10:09] <hondje> yourghetek: echo $DISPLAY ?
[10:09] <cmatheson> yourghetek: it's most likely :0
[10:09] <ErmaC`> i edited my xorg.conf :s
[10:09] <thoreauputic> yourghetek: echo $DISPLAY
[10:09] <subjectdenied> could anyone tell me the console-application for configuring services that are executed at startup?
[10:09] <ErmaC`> but now my screen is fucked up
[10:10] <smite> hondje: that's what i just did. "convert -endian" is part of imagemagick
[10:10] <DukGalNamu> in either case i need someone to tell me how to make btdownloadheadless independent of the terminal its running in...
[10:10] <hex_ffff> Does anyone know how to get the current running program to show up in the tabs in gnome-terminal? It works in debian, but not ubuntu.
[10:10] <hondje> smite: oh, hrm
[10:10] <gm78> carambol, sorry zoned out. i havent found a way yet
[10:10] <hondje> then you did what I would do :)
[10:11] <smite> hondje: i made an 8x8 pixel tif and od results the same thing for the lsb and msb versions......
[10:11] <spasmodo> ErmaC - and you want to revert to the old one?
[10:11] <ErmaC`>  I edited my xorg.conf file, but now my screen resolution totally fucked up, weird pixels everywhere
[10:11] <FlyingSquirrel32> hondje: shame, thanks.
[10:11] <thoreauputic> hex_ffff: it is almost certainly in ~/.bashrc , /etc/profile or /etc/bash.bashrc, and it isn't xml - it's an option for xterminals
[10:11] <youth> I'm trying to use wine and I almost had it installed but it says that I need "Xlib/Xfree86 at the very least".
[10:11] <youth> Where can I get those if they're not in synaptic?
[10:11] <Heimdall> is there someone here who knows why the mean speed of download is limited at 7ko/s in amule statistics ?
[10:11] <youth> Or since it says "at the very least", what's a step up from that?
[10:13] <thoreauputic> hex_ffff: you would need to edit the line with the comment # If this is an xterm set the title to user@host:dir in ~/.bashrc
[10:13] <virgule> ?
[10:13] <hondje> smite: if there's an #imagemagick you might get a good answer
[10:13] <DukGalNamu> ErmaC`: run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:14] <ErmaC`> but i don't know exactly wath to do in that reconfigure-script cuz it's all the time fucked up when i reboot
[10:14] <action09> damn
[10:14] <Almindor> how do you start firebird in this thing?
[10:14] <DukGalNamu> ErmaC`: even in command liine?
[10:14] <hondje> FlyingSquirrel32: what's a shame?
[10:14] <cmatheson> Almindor: have you installed it
[10:14] <Almindor> yes
[10:14] <cmatheson> Almindor: type 'thunderbird' at the prompt
[10:15] <Almindor> cmatheson, I mean the DB not the mail client
[10:15] <cmatheson> Almindor: oh sorry
[10:15] <DukGalNamu> ErmaC`: press control alt F1
[10:15] <HappyFool> Almindor: maybe /usr/share/doc/firebird will tell you
[10:15] <ErmaC`> dukgal i mean, the screen reso is now about 640*480 really big :s not normal, i just need to fix it to a smaller reso, but with the screenresolution wizard it doesnt work, can only choose 640*480
[10:15] <DukGalNamu> ErmaC`: and go into command line, then type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:15] <hex_ffff> thoreauputic: I'll try that thanks!
[10:16] <yourghetek> is there a graphical nx client in repos?
[10:16] <thoreauputic> ErmaC`: you'll need to use sudo with that command
[10:16] <DukGalNamu> ErmaC`: ohh, have you tried typing control alt + or -?
[10:16] <ErmaC`> indeed
[10:16] <alex__> i've a question. I'd like to create a folder over my personal folder where collocate all wallpapers. I wanna ask you this questio: what folder can i put them in? Have you got an advice for me?
[10:16] <ErmaC`> how DukGalNamu ?
[10:16] <macewan> hey all
[10:17] <cmatheson> alex__: wherever you want
[10:17] <thoreauputic> alex__: you can put them anywhere you like
[10:17] <ce33na> alex__: /home/<your user name>/wallpaper
[10:17] <thoreauputic> alex__: e.g. mkdir wallpapers
[10:17] <DukGalNamu> ErmaC`: ust press control+alt then hit either the plus (+) or minus (-) key
[10:17] <mumbles> ermm... who was pming me ?
[10:17] <alex__> well, ce33na have a good idea
[10:17] <socomm> I was pwning you.
[10:17] <alex__> maybe it's the best. what do you think about?
[10:17] <socomm> :^))
[10:18] <ErmaC`> DukGalNamu,  doesn't work
[10:18] <ce33na> alex__: thats where all mine are
[10:18] <thoreauputic> alex__: you can call it anything you wish - it won't really matter
[10:18] <wims> I messed up my xorg.conf and i forgot to make a backup copy, can someone send me a clean copy?
[10:18] <alex__> ce33na, well i think it's a good position. THANK YOU!
[10:18] <DukGalNamu> ErmaC`: then you don't have the resolutions set, you need to reconfigure xorg the way i told you
[10:19] <ErmaC`> N
[10:19] <ErmaC`> with the pkg-stuff?
[10:19] <thoreauputic> ErmaC`: sudo apkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:19] <thoreauputic> sorry typo
[10:19] <DukGalNamu> ErmaC`: press ctrl+alt+F1 then log in as normal user then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:20] <mumbles> how would i go about doing what dorris says ? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=252708&postcount=4
[10:20] <thoreauputic> *sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[10:21] <raven3x7> anyone can suggest a alternative backports mirror to the mirramax one?
[10:21] <DukGalNamu> ErmaC`: and to get back press ctrl+alt+F7 or F6 or F8....
[10:22] <ErmaC`> ok
[10:22] <ce33na> raven3x7:I'm having backport problems lately also. I'm just going to try to wait it out.
[10:22] <Heimdall> it seems that the default ubuntu Mplayer does not support XviD format, where can I find the codec ?
[10:22] <thoreauputic> raven3x7: here>> http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php
[10:22] <sJaM> gtg cu
[10:22] <mumbles> confused
[10:22] <ce33na> I've tried all four listed on the backports page and they all seem hosed
[10:22] <DukGalNamu> thoreauputic: tell me how to run a terminal program independent of the terminal please!!!
[10:23] <thoreauputic> DukGalNamu: I don't really follow you
[10:23] <DukGalNamu> thoreauputic: so that when i close the terminal the program doesn't stop
[10:24] <raven3x7> thoreupeutic thanks
[10:24] <thoreauputic> DukGalNamu: depending on the program, you can background it with & - but if you close the terminal that will also usually terminate the program, since it is a child process
[10:25] <ce33na> DukGalNamu: add "&" to the end of your command. It will run in the background.
[10:25] <airmikey> whats   ubuntu 6.04
[10:25] <DukGalNamu> thoreauputic: the program is btdownloadheadless, and its supposed to be able to come up on any terminal after the original is closed
[10:26] <thoreauputic> airmikey: the Ubuntu after Breezy - out next April
[10:26] <DukGalNamu> thoreauputic: still running
[10:26] <airmikey> trying to find   ubuntu for amd64
[10:26] <ce33na> DukGalNamu: if what thoreauputic says is happening to you, then do it from a straight command line by typing <ctrl> <alt> <F1>. To return to the desktop, type <alt> <F7>.
[10:27] <thoreauputic> DukGalNamu: another way is to use the GNU screen program, which allows you to detach and reattach terminal sessions
[10:27] <DukGalNamu> thoreauputic: THATS IT!!! thats what i want to do
[10:27] <DukGalNamu> thoreauputic: how do i do that? whats the name of the program so i can man it?
[10:27] <thoreauputic> DukGalNamu: the command is "screen" - and tha man pages are ... long ;)
[10:28] <thoreauputic> screen is a great program
[10:29] <thoreauputic> DukGalNamu: this might help >> http://jmcpherson.org/screen.html
[10:29] <tiglionabbit> http://f0rked.com/core/irssi
[10:29] <litte_john> my internet connection is very slow so can i buy an ubuntu cd somewher?
[10:30] <tiglionabbit> litte_john: free, shipped to anywhere in the world
[10:30] <litte_john> free?..wher?
[10:30] <tiglionabbit> http://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[10:31] <litte_john> ok..are it totaly free?..also the ship cost is free?
[10:31] <Xappe> yes
[10:31] <hondje> yep
[10:31] <tiglionabbit> mmhmm
[10:31] <litte_john> ohh..damn what nice
[10:31] <Cred> Hello. Could someone try to help me to get Labtec USB microphone to work? dmesg reveals this usbcore: registered new driver snd-usb-audio
[10:32] <TokenBad> what should power levels be on a cable modem when check signal?
[10:32] <ulaas> what is the latest version of firefox in hoary reposss ? 1.0.2 ???
[10:32] <thoreauputic> !firefox
[10:32] <ubotu> well, firefox is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[10:32] <josgar> 1.0.4
[10:33] <ulaas> josgar, from backports right?
[10:33] <Ubuntian> does someone know how to create an image from a cd?
[10:33] <josgar> yes
[10:33] <ulaas> Ubuntian, mkisofs ?
[10:33] <Panzerboy> are there any problems with the mailing lists?
[10:33] <Ubuntian> ulaas, did u do it?
[10:33] <Panzerboy> i've send a message to the users list quite a while ago
[10:34] <mumbles> anoune aroudn to help with my sound ?
[10:34] <DukGalNamu> thoreauputic: i have to have screen already running to detatch the program don't i....
[10:34] <thoreauputic> DukGalNamu: yes, but that isn't really a problem - just run screen first
[10:34] <Ubuntian> ulaas, there is no GUI right?
[10:35] <ulaas> Ubuntian, there is
[10:35] <ulaas> Ubuntian, in fact there are
[10:35] <spasmodo> I am making a backup of an entire drive with dd
[10:35] <spasmodo> how to restore?
[10:35] <ulaas> Ubuntian, the greatest one which i am sure you will hate the gui is "xcdroast"
[10:36] <ulaas> Ubuntian, gnomebaker also can create iso i guess
[10:36] <mumbles> strange
[10:36] <mumbles> ubuntu wont find xconfig or gconfig as my google serches say
[10:36] <Ubuntian> ulaas, is there a misunderstanding? i'm trying to get an image of a CD, an copy it on my hard drive..
[10:36] <DukGalNamu> thoreauputic: in any case, problem solved !!!! thank you
[10:36] <cmatheson> spasmodo: w/ dd
[10:36] <Ubuntian> ulaas, xcdroast does that?
[10:37] <thoreauputic> DukGalNamu: no worries - screen is great for all kinds of stuff :)
[10:37] <ulaas> Ubuntian, hmmmm
[10:37] <cmatheson> Ubuntian: you could probably just dd if=/dev/cdrom of=foobar.iso
[10:37] <limer> exit
[10:37] <spasmodo> cmatheson - thanks
[10:37] <ulaas> Ubuntian, i think it does
[10:37] <cmatheson> spasmodo: no problem, just switch the if= and the of= values when you want to restore
[10:38] <spasmodo> cool, that makes sense!
[10:38] <gihef> Lo everybody
[10:39] <Ubuntian> cmatheson, and where does the iso goes?
[10:39] <gihef> I'm trying to get apache working on my amd64 hoary distro
[10:39] <Ubuntian> go
[10:39] <cmatheson> Ubuntian: whereever you tell it. if you don't specify it will just go in the current directory
[10:39] <XRayNuke> !java
[10:39] <Ubuntian> ohhh
[10:39] <ubotu> from memory, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[10:39] <Ubuntian> what's dd ?
[10:40] <Ubuntian> what is do or dd ?
[10:40] <cmatheson> Ubuntian: man dd
[10:40] <tiglionabbit> !newusers
[10:40] <ubotu> newusers is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers
[10:40] <Ubuntian> cmatheson, k i'll try
[10:40] <thoreauputic> Ubuntian: probably short for "direct dump" or something like that
[10:40] <Ubuntian> k
[10:40] <ce33na> data dump
[10:41] <thoreauputic> ce33na: yeah, that sounds right :)
[10:41] <gihef> ok I guess i still can hang myself
[10:41] <spasmodo> is dd a recommended way to do disk backups?
[10:42] <cmatheson> tiglionabbit: did you just make that new users page or has that been around for a while?
[10:42] <thoreauputic> spasmodo: sure, but be careful with your if= and of=  ;-)
[10:42] <ErmaC`> hey
[10:42] <ErmaC`> (h)
[10:42] <ErmaC`> finally works normal again
[10:42] <spasmodo> ErmaC
[10:42] <spasmodo> got X going?
[10:42] <ErmaC`> but, it's still 800*60
[10:42] <ErmaC`> but, it's still 800*600
[10:42] <spasmodo> heh heh
[10:43] <JohnFlux> spasmodo: dd is dangerous if the second disk isn't exactly the same
[10:43] <tiglionabbit> cmatheson: I made it
[10:43] <JohnFlux> spasmodo: and two disks with the same model number aren't always the asme
[10:43] <cmatheson> JohnFlux: he's just making a backup, he's not copying to another disk
[10:43] <JohnFlux> asme
[10:43] <cmatheson> tiglionabbit: pretty sweet
[10:43] <JohnFlux> cmatheson: .......
[10:43] <tiglionabbit> thanks
[10:43] <JohnFlux> cmatheson: think about that :P
[10:43] <spasmodo> heh heh
[10:43] <cmatheson> JohnFlux: think about what? you're statement was entirely irrelevant
[10:43] <spasmodo> but not duplicating the disk
[10:44] <JohnFlux> cmatheson: if the disk fails, and you have the backup file, what are you going to do with it ?
[10:44] <tiglionabbit> but I made it last week, so if a week is a while, then yes it's been around
[10:44] <tiglionabbit> well I gotta go
[10:44] <JohnFlux> cmatheson: what's the point in a backup file you can't put on any new harddisk ? :)
[10:44] <cmatheson> JohnFlux: he's probably more worried about ruining data than a disk failing
[10:44] <cmatheson> JohnFlux: and even so he could partition the new drive accordingly
[10:44] <thoreauputic> JohnFlux: if the output file is specified properly, it should be fine - it's just a file with the data in it after all
[10:44] <cmatheson> JohnFlux: people have been using dd for backups for years it's no problem
[10:45] <ErmaC`> who helped me a couple of minutes ago with the reconfigure command of xserver-xorg?
[10:45] <thoreauputic> ErmaC`: several people I seem to recall
[10:46] <ErmaC`> :p
[10:46] <ErmaC`> hehe
[10:46] <Ubuntian> thanks all, tschuss
[10:46] <thoreauputic> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  <----- that one ?
[10:47] <GigaClon> hey calc, thanks for the help yesterday
[10:47] <ErmaC`> yes thoreauputic
[10:47] <ErmaC`> that one
[10:48] <IcemanV9> hrm .. 11G worth of data cannot backup to fd0? dang
[10:48] <IcemanV9> j/k :p
[10:48] <Kr> hi
[10:48] <thoreauputic> IcemanV9: write a new compression algorithm *grin*
[10:49] <ubuntu_rolph> hi how can I download a VNC server?
[10:49] <ubuntu_rolph> (totally new to Linux) I know how to use the CL though
[10:50] <khermans> Anyone know good software for making Screen Capture Movies?
[10:50] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: install the vncserver package
[10:50] <ubuntu_rolph> http://desktops.linux.com/article.pl?sid=04/07/26/1815242&tid=6
[10:51] <ubuntu_rolph> thoreauputic: how do I do that?
[10:51] <thoreauputic> ubuntu_rolph: sorry that waas for you
[10:51] <thoreauputic> ubuntu_rolph: sudo apt-get install vncsever, or use the synaptic package manager
[10:51] <thoreauputic> *vncserver
[10:51] <ubuntu_rolph> thoreauputic, is there a command to do so?
[10:51] <IcemanV9> thought vnc is part of ubuntu, isn't it?
[10:51] <krueger> what's the name of the danish ubuntu chain ?
[10:51] <thoreauputic> see above
[10:51] <krueger> (channel)
[10:52] <thoreauputic> IcemanV9: yes, but not the server
[10:52] <IcemanV9> ahh .. ok
[10:53] <thoreauputic> krueger: would it be #ubuntu-dk  ?
[10:53] <krueger> i try..
[10:53] <thoreauputic> krueger: hmm - no-one there
[10:53] <krueger> thank you
[10:53] <krueger> lol..
[10:53] <ubuntu_rolph> E: Package vncserver has no installation candidate
[10:53] <krueger> but thanks anyway
[10:54] <thoreauputic> ubuntu_rolph: you need universe repo
[10:54] <ubuntu_rolph> how do I do that?
[10:54] <ubuntu_rolph> :p
[10:54] <thoreauputic> ubuntu_rolph: see the bot's URL below
[10:54] <thoreauputic> !repos
[10:54] <ubotu> I guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:55] <u19809> I want to man a hostname (say XYZ) to a DNS entry, suggestions ?
[10:55] <u19809> s/man/map
[10:55] <thoreauputic> ubuntu_rolph: it's basically a question of editing out some # marks in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:56] <bddebian> u19809: Put it in /etc/hosts
[10:56] <u19809> doesn't host onlyl map names to IP addresses ?
[10:56] <bddebian> u19809: Yes, what are you trying to do?
[10:56] <thoreauputic> u19809: hostnames and URLs
[10:57] <u19809> I use CVS and CVS stores the name of the host in a file
[10:57] <u19809> However when my laptop moves from behind firewall to outside
[10:57] <u19809> the IP address of the cvs server changes.
[10:57] <u19809> but the DNS name does not
[10:57] <u19809> so I want to have say cvsserver in the CVS file and then
[10:58] <u19809> have an alias from CVSserver to whatever the current IP address of the host is
[10:58] <thoreauputic> u19809: you can just map the alias to the IP in /etc/hosts
[10:58] <u19809> yes but the IP changes and then I would have to edit the host file every time
[10:58] <Madeye> hey, How to upgrade my kernel to  2.6.11? I'm using hoary ?
[10:59] <ubuntu_rolph> I'm on cd live though :P
[10:59] <HappyFool> if the "dns name" (i presume this is a name you can lookup via DNS) is constant, use that instead of cvsserver
[10:59] <thoreauputic> ubuntu_rolph: ah, well apt still works on the live CD AFAIK
[10:59] <u19809> OK let me rephrase.
[11:00] <u19809> cvs stores hostnames in the file
[11:00] <u19809> however depending on the location the IP adres of that hostname
[11:00] <u19809> changes (bind or before firewall)
[11:00] <u19809> So I am looking for a solution that would make that move abstract
[11:00] <u19809> s/bond/behind
[11:01] <u19809> s/bind/behind
[11:02] <mumbles> if i install a new sound card will i have to reinstall ubuntu ?
[11:02] <HappyFool> u19809: ok, so I have in a 'Root' file in CVS/ this:      :pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/numpy
[11:02] <thoreauputic> mumbles: no
[11:03] <HappyFool> u19809: surely cvs doesn't care what the IP address of cvs.sourceforge.net is?
[11:03] <u19809> yes
[11:03] <HappyFool> u19809: i.e., shouldn't it Just Work ?
[11:03] <u19809> yes but if I am behind my firewall the Ip adress would resolve to the public IP address
[11:03] <u19809> causing traffic over slow ISP line
[11:03] <HappyFool> so what's the problem with that?
[11:03] <u19809> Speed
[11:03] <HappyFool> what do you want to happen instead?
[11:04] <u19809> and download limits
[11:04] <HappyFool> maybe you need to set up routing somehow, but that I don't know much about
[11:04] <u19809> yes I could set up a host route
[11:05] <HappyFool> u19809: gnome networking is probably not up to it, but i see it has a 'location' field (see System -> Administration -> Network settings)
[11:06] <HappyFool> u19809: last guess: put two entries for the host in /etc/hosts. Anyway, I'm off to bed.
[11:08] <thoreauputic> u19809: maybe write a small x=script that allows you to choose between the two connection methods? (also a guess)
[11:08] <thoreauputic> *script
[11:09] <lsuactiafner> u19809 : whats up?
[11:09] <u19809> I was thinking along the lines of using dnsmasq
[11:09] <u19809> lsuactiafner : I use cvs and cvs stores hosts
[11:09] <lsuactiafner> u19809 : if you want to map a hostname to an ip /etc/hosts
[11:09] <u19809> but that hostname resolves to an IP address that is public (i.e. on the internet)
[11:10] <thoreauputic> lsuactiafner: we've kind of covered that ground...
[11:10] <XRayNuke> I have a gtksudo question. I just set up Ubuntu, but I was installing to a USB drive so I had to go through the expert install and might have missed something because gtksudo doesn't work. Does it have something like the sudoers file and how do I add myself?
[11:10] <lsuactiafner> just add like this to a /etc/hosts
[11:10] <u19809> which causes the use of my download limited ISP connection when I am at home
[11:10] <lsuactiafner> <IP_ADDRESS>             ut2004master2.epicgames.com
[11:10] <thoreauputic> XRayNuke: you need to run visudo and add yourself
[11:10] <u19809> hosts file is to fixed (my laptop moves)
[11:10] <thoreauputic> XRayNuke: the expert install skips sudo for some reason
[11:11] <lsuactiafner> u19809 : look into squid, iptables, bannerfilter, dnsmasq
[11:11] <lsuactiafner> i use a that setup to deny various ips ect to save bandwidth
[11:11] <thoreauputic> XRayNuke: BTW it's "gksudo"
[11:11] <Madeye> hey, How to upgrade my kernel to  2.6.11? I'm using hoary ?
[11:11] <lsuactiafner> that entry i just pasted is so my roommate can play ut2004.
[11:11] <thoreauputic> Madeye: don't
[11:11] <thoreauputic> Madeye: 2.6.11 has known issues
[11:12] <XRayNuke> thoreauputic: thanks. what is the most correct way to specify user privilege? i see the line for root; should I just copy that for myself, or is it a good idea to be more restrictive?
[11:12] <u19809> dnsmasq is the way to go if only my firewall (crap as it is) supports passing DNS server addresses
[11:12] <thoreauputic> XRayNuke: depends what you need
[11:12] <ErmaC`> i'm now on 800*600 resolution but i want to get on 1024*768 resolution, i don't have the option in the wizard screen-resolution how do i fix this? normally i can even run higher then 1024*768
[11:12] <XRayNuke> thoreauputic: sole user on a laptop used for development
[11:13] <Madeye> thoreauputic, known issues? where I can read more?
[11:13] <lsuactiafner> Madeye : learn to compile your own kernel and avoid issues and bugs and huge funny kernels.
[11:13] <thoreauputic> XRayNuke: %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL    <--- admin group is added to sudoers by default
[11:14] <lsuactiafner> and ubuntu developers recommend users like you dont figure out how to compile your own kernel btw
[11:14] <ErmaC`> i'm now on 800*600 resolution but i want to get on 1024*768 resolution, i don't have the option in the wizard screen-resolution how do i fix this? normally i can even run higher then 1024*768
[11:14] <thoreauputic> Madeye: bugzilla I guess - I'm just passing on what I've seen and heard here from people like bob2
[11:14] <din> i've always made my own kernels :)
[11:14] <lsuactiafner> ubotu tell ErmaC` about resolution
[11:14] <lsuactiafner> yeh same
[11:14] <ErmaC`> yeah tell me (h)
[11:14] <Madeye> thoreauputic,  ah, Ok thanks
[11:15] <lsuactiafner> new iptables out so i think i will need to upgrade+patch
[11:16] <thoreauputic> lsuactiafner: and ubuntu developers recommend users like you dont figure out how to compile your own kernel btw <-- not true, as long as people read the debian howto on compiling kernels
[11:16] <ErmaC`> lsuactiafner i saw that internet page and i did wath is told on it, but nothing happens still 800*600
[11:16] <lsuactiafner> ErmaC` : press control alt + or -
[11:16] <lsuactiafner> the plus and minus sign @ the far end of your keyboard
[11:17] <ErmaC`> lsuactiafner, i did this, it changed nothing ...
[11:17] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner: thoreauputic is partially correct. If you need to compile your own kernel for things to work, that is a bug, and should be reported
[11:17] <ErmaC`> still 800*600
[11:17] <thoreauputic> Burgundavia: yes, but I've never seen anyone be discouraged from compiling a kernel to learn how
[11:18] <lsuactiafner> when i came here tellin developers that the amd kernel for hoary release didnt boot my system up i was told to stfu
[11:18] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner: did you file a bug about it?
[11:18] <thoreauputic> lsuactiafner: erm... that sounds... apocryphal shall we say
[11:18] <lsuactiafner> but i started makin kernels when 2.4.0 was released and i keep upto date so makin a kenrel aint a problem
[11:18] <flodine> can someone tell me where do i put my systen wide colors
[11:18] <mumbles> how do i get the 2.6.12 intell sound sorces ?
[11:18] <lsuactiafner> Burgundavia : yeh i did and nothing came of it
[11:18] <Burgundavia> thoreauputic: if you want to compile a kernel, that is fine. Ubuntu developers do not encourage it
[11:19] <Vantage__> anyone here familiar with using bootcd to create bootable cd iso's?  I'm having a problem with the ram filesystems being listed as read only
[11:19] <Burgundavia> think of it this way: would your mother want to compile a kernel
[11:19] <Burgundavia> ?
[11:19] <thoreauputic> Burgundavia: right - but they don't discourage people from learning how to either, correct?
[11:19] <Burgundavia> thoreauputic: no
[11:19] <lsuactiafner> yeh they do discourage ppl from learning
[11:19] <something_else> hmm, is it wise to use videolans debian apt rep?
[11:19] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner: that is incorrect
[11:19] <cmatheson> yeah there's definitely nothing wrong w/ compiling your own kernel
[11:20] <lsuactiafner> everytime i tell ppl look your sounds doesnt work since the kernel aint correct i get shot down
[11:20] <Burgundavia> most people compile kernels because they think they need to
[11:20] <Burgundavia> which is incorrect
[11:20] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner: sound is not a kernel issue
[11:20] <lsuactiafner> sound support is..
[11:20] <lsuactiafner> hard disk support is..
[11:20] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner: that is an alsa/esd issue, and has been resolved for breezy
[11:20] <ateves> i set up ubuntu again today, and apt does not provide the xchat tray icon anymore. where can i get it?
[11:20] <thoreauputic> lsuactiafner: if you watch crimsun at work on sound issues you'll see he can usually do wonders with kernel headers, and no recompile at all
[11:21] <lsuactiafner> my nvidia4 chipset didnt go off well with ubuntu kernels i tried.
[11:21] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner: if a sound card doesn't work, don't tell peope to compile their own kernel, but to report a bug
[11:21] <cmatheson> Burgundavia: so they're supposed to go w/out sound til breezy comes out?
[11:21] <lsuactiafner> i screwed up 3 times when i made my 1st kernel. saved me many more headaches tho in the long-term
[11:22] <lsuactiafner> the ubuntu kernels i tried didnt boot my sytem.
[11:22] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner: remember that some people that come into this channel have no interest in compiling their own kernel and it oftern confirms their worst fear about linux
[11:22] <lsuactiafner> tho @ the beginin of the year i did have a high end non-default systme
[11:22] <Burgundavia> lsuactiafner: you keep telling me that, but where is the bug report, with your hardware
[11:22] <scoperesolutoin> I am stupid today and I cant remember how to get something to run right when you log in
[11:22] <something_else> for some odd reason, I felt safer compiling a kernel in slackware than with ubuntu
[11:22] <spasmod1>  lsuactiafner - do you compile ubuntu kernels, or other?
[11:23] <Burgundavia> scoperesolutoin: add it to your session
[11:23] <scoperesolutoin> burgundavia: yeah I dont remember how
[11:23] <action09> hi, i tried differents 'flavors' of Ubuntu with sources lists : Marillat, backports are unstable for me, can i safely add universe and/or multiverse for the stability of my Buntu please ?
[11:23] <lsuactiafner> i compile my own kernels for all my boxes, slackware, ubuntu.
[11:23] <Burgundavia> action09: universe/mulitverse are fine
[11:23] <action09> Marillat sources are for Debian i know..
[11:23] <Burgundavia> action09: backports is iffy
[11:23] <thoreauputic> action09: universe and multiverse are fine
[11:23] <Burgundavia> the backports project has hoary-extras, which is marilliat compiled for ubuntu
[11:24] <something_else> so, has any used VLC's apt dir for debian with ubuntu?
[11:24] <Burgundavia> scoperesolutoin: system-->prefs-->session, 3rd tab
[11:24] <sam_> whats the package for firefox's flash plugin?
[11:24] <mumbles> cmatheson, care to help with my sound problem ? befroe i go an dby a soundcard ?
[11:25] <Burgundavia> flash-nonfree
[11:25] <scoperesolutoin> burgudavia: thanks I think i got it
[11:25] <cmatheson> mumbles: what kind of sound card do you have?
[11:25] <mumbles> onbord sound
[11:25] <mumbles> on a intel D915PGN
[11:25] <cmatheson> mumbles: have you found out what module you should be loading?
[11:25] <flodine> anyone know where the DIR_COLOR is in ubuntu
[11:25] <khermans> Anyone know how to make video Screen Captures?
[11:26] <mumbles> whatever it is for the intel ALC860  chipset
[11:26] <Burgundavia> khermans: xvidcap, in the universe repo
[11:26] <action09> Bugsbang, don't you think of security problems for universe/multiverse updates (" software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[11:26] <action09> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[11:26] <action09> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[11:26] <action09> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[11:26] <action09> ## team."
[11:26] <blmartin777> Does anyone know where the gdm login files are stored I want to edit a picrure?
[11:26] <action09> oups
[11:26] <action09> sorry for the flood
[11:26] <flodine> ubuntu dont have dir_colors
[11:26] <mumbles> got this is response to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=99115#post99115
[11:27] <mumbles> when i serch in forums
[11:27] <action09> Burgundavia, ? if there's a sploit floating on the net for mpg321 e.g. i 'll have to patche it myself.. :)
[11:27] <dmk> /usr/share/gdm
[11:27] <Burgundavia> action09: yes, or convince the motus to port the fix from debian
[11:27] <blmartin777> dmk: thanks
[11:27] <dmk> also setting in /etc/gdm
[11:27] <hazmat> i'm getting md5 checksum errors on a number of packages, is there a way around this, or to force the install?
[11:27] <action09> Damn
[11:27] <cmatheson> mumbles: what happens when you type 'modprobe snd-azx'?
[11:27] <Burgundavia> hazmat: change from the us.archive to just archive
[11:28] <hazmat> Burgundavia, thanks!
[11:28] <mumbles> FATAL: Module snd_azx not found.
[11:28] <mumbles> FATAL: Error running install command for snd_azx
[11:28] <cmatheson> mumbles: ooh
[11:28] <action09> i think it's a thing Ubuntu is going to have.. not a fully Desktop workstation without firestarter/mp3/dvd..etc  multimedia... supported
[11:28] <action09> thanks Burgundavia  :)
[11:29] <mumbles> synept get snd_azx ?
[11:29] <cmatheson> mumbles: if you type 'locate snd-azx.o' what happens?
[11:29] <mumbles> /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/pci/azx/snd-azx.o
[11:29] <mumbles> /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/pci/azx/.snd-azx.o.cmd
[11:29] <cmatheson> mumbles: ok you haven't installed the module yet
[11:29] <scoperesolutoin> anyone know how to get a usb drive to auto mount?
[11:29] <Burgundavia> scoperesolutoin: it should just automount
[11:29] <scoperesolutoin> it dont
[11:29] <cmatheson> mumbles: when you did that debian/rules thing it should have made a .deb file somewhere (probably in /usr/src/modules
[11:29] <Burgundavia> if it doesn't, it is a bug
[11:29] <cmatheson> mumbles: or maybe in /usr/src, go check real quick
[11:30] <dmk> scoperesolutoin, have you recompiled your kernel?
[11:30] <scoperesolutoin> it did up to the point i removed it from the system and booted one without it
[11:30] <scoperesolutoin> dmk yep
[11:30] <Burgundavia> scoperesolutoin: try the default kernel
[11:30] <mumbles> cmatheson,  ?
[11:30] <dmk> have you removed scsi modules? maybe hotplug support?
[11:30] <cmatheson> mumbles: type 'cd /usr/src' and then type 'ls' and tell me what it says
[11:30] <scoperesolutoin> burgudavia: i cant for some other apps or I would go back to it
[11:31] <mumbles> cmatheson,  its there
[11:31] <mumbles> alsa-sriver
[11:31] <cmatheson> mumbles: it's alsa-driver.deb?
[11:31] <mumbles> no a folder
[11:31] <ErmaC`> weird weird weird
[11:31] <ErmaC`> should it help when i install the 27 updates who are available? :p
[11:31] <mumbles> with files in there
[11:31] <cmatheson> mumbles: type 'find /usr/src -name *.deb'
[11:32] <mumbles> ill i get is >
[11:32] <ErmaC`> spreekt er iemand nederlands? does anyone speak dutch?
[11:32] <ateves> hi, i often find needful packages at packages.debian.org. can i add this server to my apt sources list?
[11:32] <cmatheson> mumbles: don't type the quotes, just type: find /usr/src -name *.deb
[11:33] <ErmaC`> haha
[11:33] <ErmaC`> loooooool
[11:33] <mumbles> usr/src/alsa-modules-2.6.10-5-686_1.0.8-4ubuntu4+10.00.Custom_i386.deb
[11:33] <cmatheson> mumbles: ok type 'sudo dpkg -i /usr/src/alsa-modules-2.6.10-5-686_1.0.8-4ubuntu4+10.00.Custom_i386.deb'
[11:34] <mumbles> FATAL: Could not open '/boot/System.map-2.6.10-5-686': No such file or directory
[11:35] <scoperesolutoin> what are you trying to get with alsa?
[11:35] <remyforbes777> is it possible that this irc can be doing port scans
[11:35] <mumbles> yeh
[11:35] <cmatheson> mumbles: ls -l /boot/System.map*
[11:35] <mumbles> * - Freenode runs an open proxy scanner. Your use of the network
[11:35] <mumbles> * - indicates your acceptance of this policy.
[11:36] <mumbles> for remyforbes777
[11:36] <remyforbes777> got yuou
[11:36] <remyforbes777> thanks
[11:36] <mumbles> -rw-r--r--  1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-06-24 21:22 /boot/System.map-2.6.10-5-386
[11:36] <remyforbes777> i was getting worried
[11:36] <mumbles> type /motd to read the full listing
[11:36] <cmatheson> mumbles: ok, you need to redo that part where you did the debian/rules command and substitute '386' where you did '686' before
[11:37] <mumbles> debian rules command ?
[11:37] <cmatheson> mumbles: in the forum you talk about typing: "sudo fakeroot debian/rules binary_modules \
[11:37] <cmatheson> KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-686/ KVERS=2.6.10-5-686'
[11:38] <cmatheson> mumbles: you need to change the KVER=2.6.10-5-686 to KVER=2.6.10-5-386
[11:38] <khermans> Is xvidcap in anyone's repos?
[11:38] <n6mod> Any experts out there on sulogin and recovery mode?
[11:38] <david> ateves you still there?
[11:38] <mumbles> looks at fourm post couse hes confused?
[11:38] <khermans> not in mine...
[11:38] <chris24tn> hey, whenever i try to emerge things, occasionally synaptic will balk at a package or two, citing an "md5sum" error, I know what this means (to an extent), but how can I fix this?  apt-get install from the command line doesn't give me the same error
[11:38] <ateves> david: yes
[11:39] <david> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozclient&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&q=site:www.debian.org+repositories
[11:39] <khermans> chris24tn, what is this gentoo?
[11:39] <david> maybe that can help
[11:39] <chris24tn> khermans, omg, sorry, force of habit
[11:39] <chris24tn> no, it's ubuntu :p
[11:39] <ateves> david: i will check it, thx
[11:39] <khermans> chris24tn, hehe, i know dude -- i'm a recovering gentoo user myself
[11:40] <khermans> so many years wasted compiling...i feel your pain
[11:40] <cmatheson> !md5sums
[11:40] <ubotu> cmatheson: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:40] <chris24tn> haha, it's hard, i know
[11:40] <cmatheson> !md5sum
[11:40] <ubotu> cmatheson: Are you smoking crack?
[11:40] <cmatheson> ubotu: you're killin' me man!
[11:40] <ubotu> cmatheson: Are you smoking crack?
[11:40] <cmatheson> !archive
[11:40] <ubotu> cmatheson: Are you smoking crack?
[11:40] <cmatheson> i give up
[11:41] <mumbles> /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: debian/rules: No such file or directory
[11:41] <chris24tn> well, now apt-get won't work from the cl, either
[11:41] <mumbles> goes to redo that whole thing from scrach
[11:42] <thoreauputic> cmatheson: maybe you should !crack  *grin*
[11:42] <chris24tn> "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/u/unrar/unrar_0.0.1-1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch"
[11:42] <NeoGeo64> I'm getting the same thing.
[11:42] <cmatheson> heh
[11:42] <virgule> apt-get update?
[11:42] <NeoGeo64> I keep getting MD5Sum Mismatches.
[11:42] <Druke> aye!
[11:42] <NeoGeo64> thats why i came here to ask lol
[11:42] <chris24tn> tried it
[11:42] <thoreauputic> chris24tn: change us.archive to just archive
[11:42] <cmatheson> NeoGeo64: take the 'us' in the 'us.archive.ubuntu.com' out of sources.list
[11:42] <NeoGeo64> ok
[11:42] <chris24tn> thoreauputic, why will that work?
[11:42] <Druke> cmatheson, where is the sources list?
[11:43] <khermans> I am getting MD%sum errors too!
[11:43] <NeoGeo64> /etc/apt-get/sources.lisr
[11:43] <NeoGeo64> /etc/apt-get/sources.list*
[11:43] <thoreauputic> chris24tn: us.archive has problems lately
[11:43] <chris24tn> ahhh
[11:43] <NeoGeo64> um
[11:44] <thoreauputic> NeoGeo64: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> my entire sources.list file is all us archives...
[11:44] <cmatheson> Druke: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:44] <andares> Ahhh...
[11:44] <andares> Hi.
[11:44] <cmatheson> NeoGeo64: it's a quick fix
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates produced
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> ## after the final release of the distribution.
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[11:44] <thoreauputic> NeoGeo64: search and replace
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[11:44] <khermans> for MD5SUM errors, someone told me here to delete some cached directories -- and taht worked last time
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> ## repository.
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[11:44] <cmatheson> NeoGeo64: don't freakin dump that in here
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[11:44] <andares> I'm wondering how to install NVidia drivers on Ubuntu
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> ## team.
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[11:44] <tritium> NeoGeo64, dude...
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[11:44] <thoreauputic> NeoGeo64: don't paste here: please read the /topic
[11:44] <NeoGeo64> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[11:44] <khermans> it on auto,..
[11:45] <NeoGeo64> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[11:45] <NeoGeo64> ## Backports
[11:45] <andares> It wants the kernel source, and I %Ucan't find the kernel source with APT-GET%B.
[11:45] <NeoGeo64> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[11:45] <andares> ;x
[11:45] <NeoGeo64> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[11:45] <NeoGeo64> oops
[11:45] <khermans> !!!
[11:45] <ubotu> methinks ! is what u add before a sentence to talk to me
[11:45] <NeoGeo64> heh
[11:45] <NeoGeo64> sorry
[11:45] <Panzerboy> NeoGeo64: why are you flooding?
[11:45] <andares> How do I finish it?
[11:45] <Panzerboy> !flood
[11:45] <ubotu> flood is probably for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[11:45] <Tomcat_> andares: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[11:45] <andares> ubotu, Wow. Another methinks user. I got banned from a channel for doing that.
[11:45] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, andares
[11:45] <virgule> andares: start with kernel-headers
[11:45] <andares> virgule, k.
[11:45] <andares> It has a "nifty" install script.
[11:46] <NeoGeo64> I think it would be better to comment the lines rather than delete them...
[11:46] <andares> So I don't know if I can use that binarydriverhowto thing.
[11:46] <khermans> Anyone resolve the MD5SUM error?  or can I override?
[11:46] <tritium> NeoGeo64, please use pastebin next time ;)
[11:46] <The_Vox> anybody seen any firefox 1.0.5 debs yet anywhere?
[11:46] <cmatheson> khermans: just go change your sources.list
[11:46] <thoreauputic> NeoGeo64: you don't need to delete anything - just do a search and replace in an editor
[11:46] <khermans> cmatheson, to what?
[11:47] <NeoGeo64> what do i replace it with
[11:47] <cmatheson> khermans: take all the 'us' that you see out of it
[11:47] <khermans> ahh..
[11:47] <kbrooks> heh
[11:47] <thoreauputic> replace us.archive with archive?
[11:47] <kbrooks> yes
[11:47] <eternale1> ok question, i got openssh running i can ssh using localhost, and 192.....etc lan address but it won't let me do it from my wan ip in that case from any other compter but this one
[11:47] <NeoGeo64> oh
[11:47] <NeoGeo64> dammit
[11:47] <mumbles> cmatheson,  almost finsihed with the correct one
[11:47] <NeoGeo64> i spent 5 minutes commenting lines
[11:47] <NeoGeo64> lol
[11:48] <Panzerboy> is it possible to resize a lvm volume?
[11:48] <Panzerboy> i have 2 partitions on lvm
[11:48] <synstar> i cant create a directory as root from the terminal - 'mkdir: cannot create directory `/var/www/': File exists
[11:48] <synstar> ' but it dosnt exist, any ideas?
[11:48] <Panzerboy> root and home
[11:48] <Panzerboy> and i would like to make home a bit smaller
[11:48] <andares> k, it's working...
[11:48] <Panzerboy> so
[11:48] <Panzerboy> is it possible? :)
[11:48] <tritium> eternale1, you can ssh _to_  localhost, or just _from_ localhost?
[11:48] <andares> It's taking it's time, but that's okay... heh.
[11:48] <cmatheson> mumbles: cool
[11:49] <andares> Cya, testing.
[11:49] <thoreauputic> synstar: if you have apache installed, /var/www should certainly exist...
[11:49] <mumbles> think ive done it
[11:49] <zukalk> synstar, it has to exist. maybe it's chmod -r and you can't see it? i dunno
[11:49] <eternale1> i can ssh into localhost ssh user@localhost from the machine its running on
[11:49] <mumbles> how do i find out?
[11:49] <NeoGeo64> alright
[11:49] <NeoGeo64> thats fixed
[11:50] <Timeje> have the online portions of the 5.04 CD install been changed? I ve tried 3 different CDs to install Ubuntu and keep getting an error about unable to retrieve some needed files but I ve had Ubuntu on this system plenty of times before... any ideas?
[11:50] <chris24tn> ahhh....very nice, it fixed my problem. thanks, thoreauputic!
[11:50] <thoreauputic> chris24tn: no problem :)
[11:50] <synstar> im trying to create a folder in that folder /var/www - but it displays that it exists
[11:50] <sizzam> how can you tell if you should be using one of the 'smp' kernels?
[11:50] <Timeje> sizzam: /proc/cpuinfo
[11:50] <mumbles> ah ... relsied where i went wrong
[11:50] <cmatheson> sizzam: if you have multiple processors
[11:50] <sizzam> thank you
[11:50] <khermans> Where is xvidcap?
[11:51] <eternale1> but doing ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>just hangs up when doing -v on the trying to connect debug1: connecting to .... port 22
[11:51] <tritium> khermans, it's in the main repo
[11:51] <eternale1> i've tried ListenAddress as <IP_ADDRESS>, 192.x.x.x., 67.x.x.x
[11:51] <Venson> eternale1: running a firewall?
[11:51] <mumbles> cmatheson,  i have an isshue with # make-kpkg --rootcmd=fakeroot --append-to-version=-5-686 modules-image
[11:51] <eternale1> just the one on the router
[11:51] <eternale1> but the ports are open
[11:52] <tritium> eternale1, you've forwarded port 22 to the linux box?
[11:52] <eternale1> ya
[11:53] <mumbles> The changelog says we are creating 2.6.10, but I thought the version is 2.6.10-5-386
[11:53] <mumbles> make: *** [modules-image]  Error 1
[11:54] <NeoGeo64> why cant i run two instances of synaptic
[11:54] <scoperesolutoin> because you cant
[11:54] <tritium> mumbles, it's kernel 2.6.10.  The -5 is an ubuntu number
[11:54] <NeoGeo64> i just reinstalled and im trying to get everything back the way it was.
[11:54] <cmatheson> mumbles: you don't want --append-to-version=-5-686 you want -5-386
[11:54] <othernoob> because the first synaptic would get jealous of the second.
[11:54] <tritium> NeoGeo64, reinstalled?  Why?
[11:54] <othernoob> we can't have jealousy in linux
[11:54] <NeoGeo64> Because...
[11:54] <NeoGeo64> I wiped Windows XP
[11:54] <Seveas> NeoGeo64, because synaptic locks the APT admin dir and you can't lock that twic
[11:54] <Seveas> e
[11:55] <NeoGeo64> and gave my entire hdd to linux\
[11:55] <othernoob> meh, i liked my explanation better :/
[11:55] <tritium> cmatheson, he should append a unique version, not the same one as provided by ubuntu
[11:55] <XRayNuke> i'm building a java package according to the instructions in !java, procedure #1. once i've got the Sun Java stuff, where do I put it?
[11:55] <tritium> NeoGeo64, cool reason :)
[11:55] <Tomcat_> !java
[11:55] <ubotu> java is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[11:56] <Seveas> XRayNuke, anywhere you want :)
[11:56] <othernoob> tritium: yea but he didn't have to do it that way
[11:56] <Seveas> XRayNuke, you can remove the .bin file afterwards
[11:56] <cmatheson> tritium: for the modules?
[11:56] <Tomcat_> XRayNuke: It won't be changed or unpacked anyway, so as Seveas said.
[11:56] <tritium> cmatheson, oh, is he building modules to match an ubuntu kernel?
[11:57] <cmatheson> tritium: yeah
[11:57] <tritium> cmatheson, my bad then
[11:57] <cmatheson> tritium: i wasn't sure (i've never really done this before)
[11:57] <scoperesolution> I wish I could get trillian working though wine
[11:57] <tritium> cmatheson, my error.  I'm sorry.
[11:57] <action09> scoperesolution is it 'mandatory' ? cos gaim/jabber/xchat work great and are better :)
[11:58] <othernoob> what's so great about trillian..boggles the mind..
[11:58] <scoperesolution> action09: because I own a subscript to trillian
[11:58] <action09> nobody's perfect :)
[11:58] <othernoob> lol
[11:58] <cmatheson> scoperesolution: gaim
[11:58] <virgule> I know nobody
[11:58] <eternale1> haha
[11:58] <confrey> help me please, I can't browse network from a winXP machine, but I can mount a shared directory on my laptop from that machine, I don't know waht's missing
[11:59] <scoperesolution> I like trillian when I'm in windows
[11:59] <mumbles> cmatheson,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/559
[11:59] <scoperesolution> gaim is ok but it kinda sucks
[11:59] <action09> Viddy how's he ? :)
[11:59] <mumbles> thats the whole error iget when i do the make-kpkg
[11:59] <scoperesolution> trillan has secureIM
[11:59] <mumbles> scoperesolution,  i own a licens as well
[11:59] <cmatheson> thoreauputic: so does gaim
[11:59] <cmatheson> scoperesolution: get the right plugin
[11:59] <LasseL> if I am setting up a raid1 on two discs, how many should be active 1 or 2 ?
[11:59] <thoreauputic> cmatheson: ?
[11:59] <scoperesolution> cmatheson: its not the same
[11:59] <tritium> gaim-encryption, but I don't know if it's compatible with secureIM
[11:59] <scoperesolution> I need secureIM
[12:00] <thoreauputic> cmatheson: OH - not for me i guess... ;)