[17:28] <Dilain_> installed gpgdir from a rpm binary, get following error when I try to run: /usr/bin/perl: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gpgdir/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/Class/MethodMaker/MethodMaker.so: undefined symbol: Perl_Tstack_sp_ptr
[17:29] <kregi> #ubuntu ru
[17:29] <dakota> ok, its a Nvividia GeForce 6150SE, When I installed the OS after reboot I had installed the Driver for this card then this started happening.
[17:30] <lov255> janicko signedoff
[17:30] <minimec> dakota: So you installed the driver from the 'hardware drivers' menu... Did dpkg-reconfigure gdm change something?
[17:30] <abhijit> is there any commnad line tool to make tinyurl?
[17:31] <lov255> well I am going to working on my perl programing if anyone seeing Janicko he needs to uninstall the rst3070 driver he has installed
[17:31] <dakota> I typed the command you told mw to and it reconfigured somthing but it did not show output, I restarted and now it still does the same thing..
[17:31] <j800r> hey guys, when i put certain audio cds in to rip to my library they don't mount, and the CD drive disappears. anyone know what the problem might be? :\
[17:33] <sacarlson> j800r: bad cd?
[17:33] <j800r> nop, recognised fine in windows and itunes ripped it without an issue
[17:33] <sacarlson> j800r: in the same drive?  on the same computer?
[17:33] <minimec> dakota: Ok. I do not know, why you don't get the graphical session on boot. Reconfigureing gdm did nothing, so it seems to be an issue with your GeFroce. The 'Look and Feel' of the desktop is ok, when you start the Xserver manually?
[17:33] <j800r> yes
[17:34] <sacarlson> j800r: oh and you said certain audio cd's not all?
[17:34] <dakota> Yes fine.
[17:34] <j800r> ya, i just ripped one fine
[17:34] <ReadPlease> Is it possible to install ubuntu then delete windows? :D  Because my CD burner's busted.
[17:35] <j800r> lol, apparently my drive likes Marilyn Manson, but not Paradise Lost
[17:35] <TiK> ReadPlease: USB drive?
[17:35] <sacarlson> j800r: maybe the have retry count set to a higher number
[17:35] <TiK> ReadPlease: flash stic I mean?
[17:35] <TiK> sticks*
[17:35] <minimec> dakota: If you go to >System >Administration >Login Screen... Can you configure something there?
[17:35] <j800r> sacarlson, also when i eject the drive it auto-closes :s
[17:36] <dakota> yes I can get there, what should I configure?
[17:36] <j800r> maybe there's a stuck process or something? maybe i should just try rebooting
[17:36] <sacarlson> j800r: well if you have something that works better I would keep it at that.
[17:36] <ylmfos> dfsdfl;;l
[17:36] <minimec> dakota: Well I don't know... Maybe disable automatic login once (if activated)
[17:37] <minimec> dakota: I don't know if that does something... We will see.
[17:37] <ylmfos> gf fg fg fg
[17:37] <ReadPlease> Oh yeah.  I could stick it in my flash.
[17:37] <Pici> ylmfos: Please stop that.
[17:37] <j800r> hmmm...i'll try restarting my system and go from there. my drive may just be having a spazz
[17:37] <dakota> ok? I am at that setting, what do I configure?
[17:38] <noobie1> hello world
[17:38] <ylmfos> I use ylmfos  it for lius  at now
[17:38] <Pici> ylmfos: We do not support ylmfos here. Please use their support.
[17:38] <noobie1> I need help
[17:39] <minimec> dakota: Well I don't know... Maybe disable automatic login once (if activated)
[17:39] <Pici> !ask | noobie1
[17:39] <j800r> crisis averted
[17:39] <ylmfos> here  have chineese people ?
[17:39] <j800r> i rebooted and the cd mounted immediately. it must have been a stuck process or something
[17:39] <sacarlson> j800r: let me guess cleaned the cd?
[17:40] <dakota> That option is already deactivated, all I get when I boot up is a console asking me to log in, thats it... unless I manually start the Xserver.
[17:40] <j800r> nop. just a simple reboot :P
[17:40] <sacarlson> j800r: cool
[17:40] <minimec> dakota: Activate it once if you can?
[17:41] <zzzed> !ch | ylmfos
[17:41] <noobie1> I have Ubuntu 10.4 on a custom laptop. my web cam (Bison) is recognised ( I verified that by installing Device Manager) but cant be used with the pre-installed messenger
[17:41] <Pici> !zh | ylmfos
[17:41] <j800r> ugh, rhythmbox does seem to rip pcs pretty slow though :|
[17:41] <ylmfos> I am a new  one  my English is  very bad
[17:42] <sacarlson> noobie1: did you try the cam with cheese
[17:42] <Pici> ylmfos: /join #ubuntu-cn
[17:42] <noobie1> its built-in camera
[17:42] <ylmfos> i  d'ont  use it
[17:43] <dakota> Still takes me to a console....
[17:43] <noobie1> cheese is a testing programm for usb web cams, isnt it?
[17:43] <impulse255> i have a problem ... i dont think i can ever go back to windows ^^
[17:43] <sacarlson> noobie1: well it takes simple pics we use it to test cams
[17:43] <ylmfos> i not  know how to join  chinese talk
[17:44] <ReadPlease> heh
[17:44] <minimec> dakota: I cannot help you I guess... I am not a Nvidia guru. It seems to be related to your card. Otherwise I don't see why gdm cannot start correctly at boot.
[17:44] <Oer> !cn | ylmfos
[17:44] <ylmfos> I am  the  first  use it
[17:44] <noobie1> usb only, or both usb and built-in web cams?
[17:45] <BluesKaj> ylmfos, no support in #ubuntu-cn ?
[17:45] <sacarlson> noobie1: oh and no cheese works with any cam not only usb
[17:45] <philipp__> Hello there. I am trying to connect my laptop which runs Ubuntu 10.04 to my TFT. Unfortunately, the monitor dialogue only offers 60Hz for the native resolution.
[17:45] <lov255> bye for now everyone
[17:46] <philipp__> I could get at least 75Hz if I'd choose a lower resolution - those are all 4:3 and not 16:10, though.
[17:46] <ylmfos> I am not what  to say me
[17:46] <BluesKaj> philipp__, TFT ?
[17:46] <philipp__> So how can I configure Ubuntu so that the TFT won't stretch the image but use some kind of "letterbox" mode?
[17:46] <noobie1> I tried to install cheese, but the guys in the forums that were supposed to explain how to do it...well, it seemed as if they speak Ch(in)eese
[17:46] <philipp__> BluesKaj: TFT = TFT flat panel monitor ;)
[17:47] <philipp__> BluesKaj: Just an ordinary monitor.
[17:47] <xmad> philipp__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[17:47] <sacarlson> !cheese | noobie1
[17:47] <philipp__> I know that the nvidia settings have a possibility to configure a letterbox, but is there a way to do it for intel?
[17:47] <BluesKaj> ok, then say so, philipp__
[17:48] <noobie1> I tried to install cheese, but the guys in the forums that were supposed to explain how to do it...well, it seemed as if they speak Ch(in)eese
[17:48] <Xpistos> hello everyone. I am having an odd problem. I can connect to irc using x-chat  but not pidgin, irssi and weechat from my laptop. I also am not able to connect with irssi, finch and weechat from my headless ubuntu server. This started happening about two weeks ago. Same ISP and two different modem/routers. Any ideas?
[17:48] <sacarlson> noobie1:  you can try apt-get install cheese
[17:48] <ylmfos> 怎么改名字呀
[17:48] <paulina> hey
[17:48] <BluesKaj> ylmfos, not here please
[17:49] <sacarlson> noobie1:or maybe sudo apt-get install cheese
[17:49] <philipp__> BluesKaj: Well, TFT is just another word for monitor ;)
[17:49] <ylmfos> here  I  can learn  english
[17:49] <BluesKaj> philipp__, not to most of us
[17:49] <ylmfos> ok?
[17:50] <ylmfos> I am  the first  join you
[17:50] <lee_> can some1 point me to where the grub file is please?? is editable 1
[17:51] <minimec> lee_: /etc/default/grub
[17:52] <sacarlson> lee_: grub legacy or grub2
[17:53] <lee_> minimec, im trying to take out mem-test etc.. just have ubuntu / windows in burg loader..
[17:53] <minimec> lee_: I never tried that... ;)
[17:53] <philipp__> BluesKaj: Well ... do you have a solution or only comments on the word?
[17:53] <wyn> hey Ubuntunites, anybody had any luck getting desktop items to show above a-desk on Lucid ?
[17:53] <lee_> :) should be do-able tho.. just need to find the right file to edit
[17:54] <KE1HA> lee_: sudo chmod -x /etc/grub/2-_memtest86+  then sudo update-grub and reboot
[17:54] <ylmfos> hello  every one
[17:54] <minimec> lee_: /etc/default/grub for 9.10 and 10.04
[17:54] <KE1HA> chmod -x /etc/grub/20_memtest86+
[17:54] <minimec> lee_: ... I guess.
[17:54] <lee_> /etc/grub/2?? that the grub2 file?
[17:54] <ylmfos> I am   a  java  programer
[17:55] <emacs_noob> anybody knows why changing"desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager" doesn't work? i'm trying to run a different WM...
[17:55] <KE1HA> lee_: for Grub2:  chmod -x /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+
[17:55] <ylmfos>  你是想换一个虚拟机吗
[17:55] <KE1HA> as sudo
[17:56] <lee_> thanks KE1HA
[17:56] <minimec> KE1HA: THX ;)
[17:56] <wyn> ylmfos: good for you : )
[17:56] <KE1HA> lee_:  sri abt multi posts, have troubles wiht a new keyboard.
[17:56] <nnilk46> Has anyone here ever had a situation where upgrading grub legacy gets stuck at "Setting up grub-pc (1.96+20080724-12ubuntu2.1) ..." no matter if you try terminal or synaptic, on 9.04, 9.10 and 10.04?
[17:57] <nnilk46> I'm battling this right now and I can't find any info on what the problem is :(
[17:57] <BluesKaj> philipp__, have you installed a graphics driver , your monitor requires a proper graphical output
[17:58] <mib_8yb13t> hello
[17:58] <nnilk46> Hi
[17:58] <mib_8yb13t> i need help w kdenline
[17:58] <erniezahn> kdenlive?
[17:58] <erniezahn> what specifically
[17:58] <nacho> hi!
[17:59] <mib_8yb13t> yeah kdenlive
[17:59] <erniezahn> hi thre
[17:59] <nnilk46> Can anyone help me with my grub upgrade issue?
[17:59] <mib_8yb13t> insert a logo into a video
[17:59] <abhijit> !ask | mib_8yb13t
[17:59] <KE1HA> nnilk46:  what's the question?
[17:59] <JoeTheGuest> Does anyone know what information is stored in an ssh rsa key? Mainly about the computer?
[17:59] <sacarlson> nnilk46: try sudo apt-get install grub2
[17:59] <Guest43460>    why  my name  change  to  guestXXX
[17:59] <wyn> nnilk46: you have any messages before that in your terminal ?
[18:00] <nnilk46> sacarlson, I've tried before. It always runs into the same place. :(
[18:00] <nacho> I dont speak eanglish very well so it will make more dificult to get help..
[18:00] <nnilk46> wyn, yes.
[18:00] <mib_8yb13t> how insert a logo into a video w kdenlive?
[18:00] <erniezahn> mib_8yb13t: I don't know what kind of compositing kdenlive has
[18:00] <erniezahn> mib_8yb13t: have you tried cinelerra?
[18:00] <sacarlson> nnilk46: maybe more details.
[18:00] <FastReading> sacarlson: does ubuntu 9.10 come with grub2 as a default? Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't grub2 introduce lots of changes (in the scripting language as well) when compared to grub1 making it harder to tamper with?
[18:00] <mib_8yb13t> cinelerra?
[18:00] <ilovefairuz> !grub2 | FastReading
[18:01] <wyn> nnilk46: what wa the messages directly before the end fail saying ?
[18:01] <nacho> i'm trying to install xbmc on a minimal ubuntu and i need any key but i dont know how to add it, the version of ubuntu is 9.10
[18:01] <sacarlson> FastReading: if it was installed from scratch I think so but from an upgrade it seems not
[18:01] <noobie1> easy question (difficult answer?) do you know any messenger programm for Ubuntu, through which I can use my windows live id to chat with my friends, that also has video and audio calls?
[18:01] <wyn> nnilk46: also you could try skipping up to grub2 as sugested as it may be a legacy bug
[18:01] <erniezahn> mib_8yb13t: cinelerra is a video editor and compositing software
[18:01] <wyn> noobie1: svn amsn
[18:01] <ilovefairuz> noobie1: try amsn or emesene
[18:01] <FastReading> sacarlson: can you just edit a config file and set things up from there just like one used to do with lilo?
[18:02] <erniezahn> mib_8yb13t: it's like final cut and after effects togethr
[18:02] <Guest43460> how time  at  your place
[18:02] <FastReading> ubottu: I will look into that link, thanks
[18:02] <Sirisian|Work> Where do I download old ubuntu versions?
[18:02] <sacarlson> FastReading: harder to tamper with?  you can still create custom configs if that's what you mean.
[18:02] <wyn> noobie1: make sure to setup all the requirments well though or do it from source
[18:02] <Sirisian|Work> Like 9.04?
[18:02] <Sirisian|Work> or 8.04?
[18:02] <sacarlson> FastReading: yes you can
[18:02] <FastReading> sacarlson: yeah, that's what I meant :) i.e. configuring it myself
[18:02] <Pici> Sirisian|Work: http://releases.ubuntu.com or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com   for server/desktop respectively.
[18:02] <silvano>  !list
[18:02] <noobie1> wyn: I ll try to :) but I m a noobie
[18:03] <FastReading> sacarlson: how is the config file for GRUB2 called?
[18:03] <nnilk46> wyn, Terminal just shows the typical messages "Processing triggers, Unpacking, Selecting previously deselected package, setting up" then skips a line and goes to "Setting up os-prober (1.29ubuntu2)..." then "Setting up grub-pc (1.96+20080724-12ubuntu2.1) ...", The next line is just a blinking cursor. Nothing happens from here on.
[18:03] <Guest43460>  is  i so bak    i dont  means your konw  by i speaking
[18:03] <sacarlson> FastReading: yes it first finds all that it see's on all the disks and makes auto configs but you can create your own custom configs
[18:03] <minimec> Sirisian|Work: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[18:03] <FastReading> I have just answered my own question: "No /boot/grub/menu.lst. It has been replaced by /boot/grub/grub.cfg. "
[18:04] <minimec> Sirisian|Work: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/
[18:04] <coz_> FastReading,  yes but you want to edit    /etc/default/grub
[18:04] <Guest43460> I  am  means  a  little  on your words
[18:04] <noobie1> THANKS all of ya, the struggle to fight the linux Illuminati who want to keep the good stuff for the few, goes on...we shall overcome
[18:04] <KE1HA> FastReading: you dont edit that file though. Here's a good Grub Tutorial: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[18:04] <LCID_Fire> How does one reduce the amount of cached ram? On my 4 GB ram more than 1 GB is occupied by the Cache alone :(
[18:04] <sacarlson> FastReading: grub2 has more than one config not like lilo or grub legacy.  the custom config is like in I foget I have to look it up
[18:05] <jpds> LCID_Fire: $ free -m
[18:05] <ilovefairuz> Guest43460: what's your native language?
[18:05] <coz_> FastReading,  after editomg /etc/default/ grub  you "have" to run  sudo aupdate grub  for it to take effect
[18:05] <FastReading> sacarlson: that's one of the things that I am finding most difficult in this transition to Linux: most often (in programs in general, display settings, fonts, etc.) there are several files in the system that configure the same thing, and I don't know which of them has the highest priority
[18:05] <nnilk46> I would love to just install from the 10.04LTS disc however the OS install always hangs at just before the disk partitioner starts up. Same on 9.10. The only one that seems to work is 9.04 (Which installs grub legacy, and I want everything to upgrade for this new machine.)
[18:05] <jpds> LCID_Fire: See the "buffers/cache:" line.
[18:05] <lindsaymobil22> hey guys! im here for support
[18:05] <lindsaymobil22> well to GIVE support
[18:05] <coz_> :)
[18:05] <abhijit> :(
[18:05] <jpds> :<
[18:05] <coz_> lindsaymobil22,  cool
[18:05] <ilovefairuz> !hi | lindsaymobil22
[18:05] <Pici> LCID_Fire: Why would you want to change that amount? The Linux kernel is smart enough to distribute that as needed.
[18:05]  * abhijit lost the chance to type !ask
[18:06] <sacarlson> FastReading: well only one is default I'm not sure on failure if they have a priority
[18:06]  * lindsaymobil22 is seriously coming back to ubuntu from fedora right now
[18:06] <lindsaymobil22> well thinking about it
[18:06] <lindsaymobil22> is ubuntu 10.04.1 any good? obv more stable
[18:06] <Doug_Edey> FastReading: Apps which rely on conf file editing manually should really gtfo
[18:06] <wyn> noobie1: hold one, will find a good turotrial for you, I did it myself for a friend a few weeks ago
[18:06] <nnilk46> lindsaymobil22, do you have any idea why a grup upgrade from legacy on a new machine would just stall during the upgrade?
[18:06] <LCID_Fire> Pici: Sadly it isn't. If I open enough Apps to occupy the available 3 GB apps become sluggish
[18:07] <sacarlson> FastReading: oh and fonts that's not a part of grub that's in the X server
[18:07] <nnilk46> I'm battling this problem right now...
[18:07] <KE1HA> FastReading:  add a bit of pizazz :-) to Grub2 menu also: http://blogs.koolwal.net/2008/12/16/how-to-grub2-and-grub-pc-installing-splash-images/
[18:07] <lindsaymobil22> nnilk46: lol i installed mint over Fedora and it worked np
[18:07] <ilovefairuz> nnilk46: you could reinstall grub manually using the live cd
[18:07] <abhijit> !fixgrub | nnilk46
[18:07] <nnilk46> ilovefairuz, I'll try that
[18:07] <FastReading> sacarlson: to give you an example: when I try to change the default fonts I find that editing either "~/.fonts" or "~/.Xdefaults" doesn't have any effect, and then in etc there are more config files and others invoked by rc, in short... I don't know how I can know which is the ACTIVE (so to speak) config file that can be used to make changes
[18:07] <FastReading> Doug_Edey: I don't understand what you mean
[18:08] <ilovefairuz> lindsaymobil22: please refrain from random comments, be helpful or let someone else do it
[18:08] <alors> New hack tools ROMANIA HACKERS on www.team3d.3xforum.ro
[18:08] <lindsaymobil22> ilovefairuz: what are you talking about?!
[18:08] <Pici> LCID_Fire: You may want to take a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[18:08] <ilovefairuz> lindsaymobil22: the mint over fedora comment
[18:08] <abhijit> !guidelines | lindsaymobil22
[18:09] <Doug_Edey> FastReading: new users to linux shouldn't have to edit conf manually, infact, only superusers should, if an app requires you to edit a file manually then it needs to sort itself out
[18:09] <razass> anyone know of any ubuntu compatible software/hardware raid controllers? I simply need a 2hd raid array nothing too intense
[18:09] <sacarlson> FastReading: well fonts are in ttf files that can be added.  I"m not sure how to set the default on that on your windows.  I only change them in writer
[18:09] <lindsaymobil22> ilovefairuz: well nnilk46 was saying about grub2 over legacy, so i replied, is that a crime!?
[18:09] <nnilk46> lol i hope not
[18:09] <ilovefairuz> lindsaymobil22: read the guidelines
[18:09] <nnilk46> I can't find any info online about my particular problem
[18:09] <lindsaymobil22> ilovefairuz: i am not stupid
[18:10] <Doug_Edey> razass: aren't most of the really cheap ones you get in shops compatible if you just want to see a couple of drives and software RAID, HW raid with 2 drives is kinda pointless imo
[18:10] <nnilk46> It's always assumed that the upgrade process goes through without a hitch, but unfortunately mine hitches! heh...
[18:10] <sacarlson> FastReading: if you want to change you active window fonts you can look at themes
[18:10] <lindsaymobil22> why is it every irc has people that randomly give you into trouble with whatever excuse they get
[18:10] <lindsaymobil22> ?
[18:10] <nnilk46> btw this is a new machine, so no previous os on the disk.
[18:11] <atdiehm> Hey guys, I'm not able to read my media card on my aspire one netbook ( 10.04 ) ... anyone know what I might be able to do?
[18:11] <razass> Doug_Edey: no its not pointless....anything I can find online doesnt mention ubuntu in its 'compatibility' list, nor debian
[18:11] <lindsaymobil22> atdiehm: what filesystem is on it?
[18:11] <Pici> lindsaymobil22: We're just trying to keep the offtopic conversations out of here.  #ubuntu is for support only, #ubuntu-offtopic for other chatter.
[18:11] <coz_> lindsaymobil22,  generally that is not the case here or most other  official channels   what was the bad advice?
[18:11] <KE1HA> nnilk46:  are your referring to Grub2 upgrade again or another application?
[18:11] <mbeierl> lindsaymobil22: what is being asked is that if you are going to help, then help.  The question asked of you is "do you know why it stalled" and your response was not generally helpful, sorry.
[18:11] <FastReading> Doug_Edey: that depends on one's philosophy... I love the CLI. To give an example: I spent the whole weekend manually configuring my wireless WPA connection (with hidden ssid and all that)... I proceeded to install network-manager (which was just a nuisance rather than an aid) and then set it all from scratch, configuring /etc/network/interfaces. It was worth. That's why I give so much importance to knowing which config file and(
[18:11] <nnilk46> KE1HA, grub2 again.
[18:11] <Doug_Edey> razass: hardware RAID for just two drives? srsly?
[18:12] <atdiehm> lindsaymobil22, that's the problem... it was in my android phone, and I was copying files to it, and I think it got corrupted.... phone says no filesystem, as does windows
[18:12] <wyn> noobie1:  http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/InstallOnUbuntu   my notes are here http://pastie.org/1110332  use my notes first then the svn
[18:12] <FastReading> Doug_Edey: I made a typo, I meant "I proceeded to UN-install network-manager"
[18:12] <sipior> Doug_Edey: hardware raid 1 mirrors aren't exactly unheard of.
[18:12] <lindsaymobil22> atdiehm: have you tried formatting the sd card? or giving it a new partition table?
[18:12] <KE1HA> nnilk46:  did you specific /dev/hda or /dev/sda when you said install grub .. ..
[18:12] <Doug_Edey> FastReading: I don't deny understanding them, but manually editing them is backwards
[18:12] <LCID_Fire> Pici: thx
[18:12] <atdiehm> lindsaymobil22, I don't want to format it because I want to try to get the data off it...
[18:12] <clectch> UBUNTU FUCKING SUCKS
[18:13] <razass> Doug_Edey: no it can be a software raid, I just need a card that can work in ubuntu....
[18:13] <Doug_Edey> sipior: I've heard of it, just don't see the point in it since it doesn't protect against bad writes, there's no true redundancy
[18:13] <AaronMT> clectch: !attitude
[18:13] <lindsaymobil22> clectch: some people have issues with it
[18:13] <ReadPlease> aw man.  did your computer blow up when you installed it, too? hehe
[18:13] <coz_> clectch,   you mean  ubuntu is caca   right ?
[18:13] <lindsaymobil22> some dont
[18:13] <Sirisian|Work> thanks pici, minimec
[18:13] <sipior> Doug_Edey: whether you see the point of it or not, many people find it useful.
[18:13] <ReadPlease> es el caca.
[18:13] <dt`> hi, so i've encountered a minor nuisance. on occasion I would press a key (somewhere near ctrl, alt or winkey) and my keyboard input would be suppressed until I just randomly press every key to fix it
[18:13] <wyn> nnilk46: there could be many reasons why, something bad in the file or customizations it is having trouble with, you could also do it from a live disk
[18:14] <lindsaymobil22> qq  how do i change the so called "Act" in irssi?
[18:14] <dt`> any idea what I may be pressing for this to happen?
[18:14] <nnilk46> KE1HA, I didn't have to specify anything as the defaults "just work" going throught the OS install.
[18:14] <FastReading> Doug_Edey: I guess it's just a matter of perspective. Part of that which motivates my transition from windoze to linux is having the chance to understand things at low level, it gives me a deeper understanding and the ability to be able to get more and more distribution independent. My ultimate goal: being able to create my own distribution with LFS :)
[18:14] <nnilk46> so it boots just fine from legacy right after OS install.
[18:14] <mbeierl> dt: all apps or only some of them?
[18:14] <dt`> i think it's a combination of keys as I haven't been able to reproduce this by pressing just one key
[18:14] <dt`> mbeierl, firefox in particular
[18:14] <ReadPlease> Dude, if I have an error with the OS, how long does it take for it to get fixed?
[18:14] <nnilk46> the grub2 upgrade is what fails me.
[18:14] <sacarlson> Doug_Edey: FastReading: I agree with doug most configs are done in gui envirments on in text and in each application in most cases.
[18:14] <dt`> if it matters, I was in the software centre at the time
[18:14] <atdiehm> lindsaymobil22, actually, 'disk utility' sees it after a reboot......
[18:14] <minimec> atdiehm: Did you try to boot once, the card inserted? Does it work then?
[18:14] <KE1HA> nnilk46:  for upgradeing from Legacy Grub, you ahve to do 3 things: 1)- sudo apt-get install grub2  2) sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy 3) sudo grub-install /dev/sda  where /dev/sda is your MBR or boot drive.
[18:14] <atdiehm> minimec, yup, that's what I just did!
[18:14] <Pici> lindsaymobil22: ^X ? #irssi would be a better place to ask if you don't get an answer here.
[18:14] <atdiehm> minimec, and it sees it as unformatted too :(
[18:14] <FastReading> Doug_Edey: all in all, I felt great satisfaction when I got to the point of understanding how the system handles network connections and I don't regret having had to go through all those manpages
[18:14] <wyn> ilovefairuz: you guys get a little to serious in here :D
[18:15] <atdiehm> minimec, there's a bunch of stuff on there that I want back :-/
[18:15] <mbeierl> dt: have not come across that one before.  I'll step back to see if anyone else might know, soryr
[18:15] <ReadPlease> For example, something hard to explain..., like if I try to change windows, the window on top stays on top, but it's just an outline of the window, and I can't do anything with it...
[18:15] <lindsaymobil22> Pici: thanks, is that on freenode?
[18:15] <Pici> lindsaymobil22: Indeed
[18:15] <bilalakhtar> whoa, Pici what just happened? a person kicked?
[18:15] <nnilk46> KE1HA, That's fine. I get stuck in step 1.
[18:15] <bilalakhtar> k I have to go
[18:15] <minimec> atdiehm: There are some threads aobut that... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=947421
[18:15] <FastReading> Doug_Edey: to give you another anecdote that shows how much I love the CLI: I am currently chatting with "irssi" a CLI irc client
[18:15] <dt`> mbeierl, when I began typing into a text input box, the flashing text cursor would disappear and I would be redirected to the panel (like letters wouldn't produce output and arrow keys allowed me to move around through my top panel where all my icons are)
[18:15] <computerfreaker> Hi! A friend of mine is having trouble with their WinXP installation, so I tried booting into a Ubuntu LiveCD to fix the problem. However, as soon as I select "Try Ubuntu without making any changes to your computer", the LiveCD freezes.
[18:15] <KE1HA> nnilk46:  open the package manager, seach for grub-pc and install that from there.
[18:15] <ReadPlease> lol
[18:15] <dt`> no idea how I did that, heh
[18:16] <computerfreaker> I've used this LiveCD successfully on a different computer before, so I don't know what the issue is this time.
[18:16] <lindsaymobil22> has anyone tried burg with success?
[18:16] <FastReading> Doug_Edey: another anecdote... I play videos with mplayer-nogui, via svgalib, without starting X first, just for the sake of satisfaction :)
[18:16] <wyn> atdiehm: try inserting it and running  sudo fdisk -l.
[18:16] <EckoO> computerfreaker: use pen drive to boot instead
[18:16] <ilovefairuz> computerfreaker: did you verify the iso before burning it?
[18:16] <nnilk46> KE1HA, I'm tellin' ya, I've tried doing that many times. The process keeps freezing up part way in. :-/
[18:16] <coz_> computerfreaker,  is  this a newly burned cd ?
[18:16] <ilovefairuz> !verify | computerfreaker
[18:17] <minimec> atdiehm: But... normally that should work out of the box right now...
[18:17] <atdiehm> wyn, would I do it like sudo fdisk -l /dev/sbd?
[18:17] <wyn> atdiehm: also lspci
[18:17] <Doug_Edey> FastReading: I don't deny the CLI has it's place, but Ubuntu is aimed at the general user "Linux for Human Beings" if you find you have no choice OTHER then the CLI then a bug needs to be raised to bring it to the right peoples attention
[18:17] <dt`> aside from that, ubuntu is awesome. my linux journey began with pclos(full)->arch(minimal)->fedora(bloat!)->gentoo(minimal)->ubuntu
[18:17] <coz_> computerfreaker,  also when you run the cd   instead of running without installed  choose the check cd option to be sure the cd itself is not corrupt
[18:17] <Doug_Edey> FastReading: I use AIX at work ;)
[18:17] <minimec> atdiehm: hmmm.... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1506925
[18:17] <dt`> I've been using linux for ~3 years and I think ubuntu is the best. noob or not :)
[18:17] <mbeierl> dt`: very odd.  I have random problems with my mouse where it mis-fires and moves my focus where I don't want, but never that extreme.  I am sorry, I have not heard that one before and have no clue where to start :(
[18:17] <ilovefairuz> computerfreaker: or the cd might have ben scratched
[18:17] <Doug_Edey> FastReading: And z :P
[18:17] <FastReading> computerfreaker: in order to get your md5sum, do the following. Get the size of the iso image and afterwards invoke: "dd if=/dev/cdrom | head --bytes=filesize | md5sum"
[18:17] <mweijts> !dutch
[18:17] <lindsaymobil22> dt`: im using Fedora, its very minimal actually, PCLOS is more bloat
[18:17] <computerfreaker> coz_: no, I've had the CD burned for quite some time (at least 6 months), and I've used it successfully before
[18:17] <wyn> atdiehm: no just sudo fdisk -l will show if it is mounted but not visible, lspci or lsusb will show if it has been found (the card reader) by the system
[18:18] <dt`> lindsaymobil22, pclos wasn't so bloated with kde3. I don't know how it is now
[18:18] <atdiehm> mimic, I had already read that link ... and we are past that point, I can see the drive now
[18:18] <coz_> computerfreaker,  ok then it might be wise to run the   check cd   option on it
[18:18] <coz_> computerfreaker,  could be it has been damaged
[18:18] <lindsaymobil22> dt`: lol just look at it's gnome apps menu
[18:18] <computerfreaker> EckoO: no, I need to boot to CD because this system doesn't appear to support booting from a USB stick
[18:18] <dt`> mbeierl, no problem
[18:18] <KE1HA> nnilk46:  then it sounds like a pkg manager problem, not so much a Grub2 problem. You having trouble whit any other packages installing ?
[18:18] <atdiehm> wyn, says it doesn't contain a valid partition table
[18:18] <minimec> atdiehm: Ok. ;)
[18:18] <dt`> lindsaymobil22, ewww, pclos+gnome. yuck!
[18:18] <dt`> lindsaymobil22, pclos is a mandriva fork and therefore a KDE distro :)
[18:19] <wyn> atdiehm: ah, what did you format it in ?
[18:19] <ilovefairuz> !ot | dt`, lindsaymobil22
[18:19] <computerfreaker> coz_: I just tried running the "Check CD" option and the system froze again. I'll try verifying the disk in Windows, thanks.
[18:19] <fg> do you  have  QQ
[18:19] <dt`> !lame | ilovefairuz
[18:19] <lindsaymobil22> ilovefairuz: are you some sort of op?!
[18:19] <nnilk46> KE1HA, Not really. Everything else works just fine. Even upgrading the OS from 9.04 all the way to 10.04 works fine. I don't know how to figure out what is causing the pkg manager to seize up on grub2.
[18:20] <coz_> computerfreaker,  cool...if it is corrupt and you want to download again ...i suggest downloading the minimal install cd
[18:20] <computerfreaker> ilovefairuz: I know the CD hasn't been scratched; I've taken extremely good care of the disk, since it's the only one I've got atm.
[18:20] <ilovefairuz> fg: pidgin supports QQ
 Sorry, I don't know anything about lame - oh, I beg to differ...
[18:20] <atdiehm> wyn, whatever android does by default...
[18:20] <wyn> atdiehm: if theres nothing you cant put back on just format it , otherwise clone the disk
[18:20] <Yin0> anyone help me please? About  Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on mountall
[18:20] <Yin0> on running apt-get
[18:20] <Yin0> on php5-cli
[18:20] <coz_> computerfreaker,  less time downloading therefore less chance of corruption and also it downloads all of the current updates  so that don update is necesasry after booting into the installed  ubuntu
[18:20] <fg> msn  ?
[18:20] <Yin0> help please?
[18:20] <FastReading> Doug_Edey: I don't even know what AIX is, but I guess it's just another kind of computer class (just like Mac or SPARC), I take for granted that it must be CLI oriented, huh? :)  On the other hand, what you say about ubuntu makes sense, for it's aimed at people who want to be able to move into linux without having to become rocket scientists in the process. In my case, I use it for that purpose, but I also use it in order to foll
[18:21] <ilovefairuz> fg: yes and MSN too
[18:21] <computerfreaker> coz_: thanks, I'll do that if this disk is corrupted.
[18:21] <EckoO> computerfreaker: kk check the cd for error then just mentioned above by someone
[18:21] <Yin0> help?  Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on mountall
[18:21] <wyn> atdiehm: format it in Ubuntu, insert in android then copy the files over unless you have lots of stuff on there you need and cant copy over to androids internal storage ?
[18:21] <coz_> computerfreaker,  cool
[18:21] <ilovefairuz> fg: install pidgin from the software center
[18:21] <dot-slaSh> Hey guys, I'm interested in performing some network data transfer and speed tests, can anyone recommend some tools or ideas of how to obtain speed metrics to show management? I really only know of running '$ time {sftp|ftp|svn|git}' commands to show time of transfer downloads. Any thoughts/ideas?
[18:21] <dot-slaSh> I'd like to show transfers with time/speed/bandwidth metrics for things like downloading from a central server from across our global WAN.
[18:21] <Doug_Edey> FastReading: AIX is IBMs UNIX, runs on their hardware and nothing else (cos no-one else is silly enough)
[18:21] <EckoO> computerfreaker: also turn acpi off at startup sometimes it might cause problems
[18:21] <minimec> atdiehm: Are you running the normal 2.6.32 ubuntu kernel? If you tried the 2.6.35 kernel for lucid from the 'ubuntu kernel mainline' (unfortunately still rc1). WOuld that be worth a try?
[18:21] <atdiehm> wyn, but if I format it... I'll lose everything on it, and that's the opposite of what I'm trying to do
[18:21] <EckoO> computerfreakerits when u just boot the cd
[18:22] <coz_> computerfreaker,  on thing about minimal install... you will get to a menu to choose which version you want installed....arrows  scroll the list   "space" bar chooses  item
[18:22] <fg> ??
[18:22] <atdiehm> wyn, I'm trying to recover data on this sd card...
[18:22] <ilovefairuz> computerfreaker: if the bios supports booting from usb, you could use unetbootin to make a live usb pendrive
[18:22] <wyn> Yin0: prob problem with one of the packages , you doing an upgrade ?
[18:22] <FastReading> Doug_Edey: to what extent is that AIX thing compatible/similar to Linux? Does it follow the BSD or the SystemV approach?
[18:23] <ilovefairuz> !cn > fg
[18:23] <fg> where \
[18:23] <fg> where  to see
[18:23] <nnilk46> KE1HA, If I forcefully quit from it, and go to start the grub2 upgrade again, it'll complain that the previous process did not complete and to run a certain command (sorry, can't remember atm) and it just ends up right where it left off, and does not finish.
[18:23] <wyn> atdiehm: thats diffrent :D  hold on one, will dig out the routine I used on one
[18:23] <ilovefairuz> fg: write: /join #ubuntu-cn
[18:23] <Doug_Edey> FastReading: More SystemV iirc, I never got into it too much, spent too much time in the nitty gritty area of kernel dumps, system crashes, hardware dev stuff
[18:23] <sacarlson> atdiehm: did you try chkdsk on you sd drive?
[18:23] <fg> why  you text  is  red
[18:24] <KE1HA> nnilk46:  sudo aptitude install grub-pc  failes to instlal correct?
[18:24] <nnilk46> KE1HA, yeah.
[18:24] <atdiehm> sacarlson, isn't chkdsk a windows thing?
[18:24] <wyn> atdiehm: http://www.garloff.de/kurt/linux/ddrescue/
[18:24] <abhijit> we should i have factoid for 'how to use irc'? i mean not about manner but about technical
[18:24] <wyn> fg: beciause he is addressing you, your irc client makes it so
[18:24] <LunaVorax> Hi again
[18:24] <erUSUL> !irc
[18:25] <KE1HA> nnilk46: see PM
[18:25] <LunaVorax> My laptop have too graphical cards and I can't figure out how to use the weaker (also to use it by default)
[18:25] <fg>  I see
[18:25] <computerfreaker> ilovefairuz: no, this computer doesn't appear to support booting from USB.
[18:25] <atdiehm> wyn, thanks, need to head out for lunch, will be back!
[18:26] <wyn> atdiehm: good luck
[18:26] <ilovefairuz> LunaVorax: did you check around bios settings?
[18:26] <FastReading> ilovefairuz: can't he use the "dd" command in order to get the pendrive working? I mean, would "dd if=image.iso of=/dev/pendrive" thing would work or would the boot sectors not be placed properly?
[18:26] <sacarlson> atdiehm: yes your right it's fsck
[18:26] <fg> my  name  cant  to change
[18:26] <LunaVorax> ilovefairuz, i'm on a macbook pro, there's no bios and I haven't Mac OS installed on it
[18:27] <ilovefairuz> FastReading: i'm not sure if lucid supports that
[18:27] <wyn> LunaVorax: http://www.ehow.com/how_5444026_bios-macbook.html
[18:27] <turkish> Hi does anyone have any tips to get World of Warcraft runnin quicker on opengl?
[18:27] <FastReading> ilovefairuz: the lucid ISO he wants to transfer to the usb you mean? or whether or not lucid supports the "dd" command?
[18:28] <lindsaymobil22> #irssi
[18:28] <lindsaymobil22> oops
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[18:28] <FloodBot2> Martinp24: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:28] <LunaVorax> wyn this may be working only with PowerPC Macs but I'm going to try
 asshole
[18:28]  * erUSUL poor ubottu
[18:29] <TheLimeRunner> Hello :)
[18:29] <wyn> Martinp24: asshole
[18:29] <Pici> wyn: No need for the language.
[18:29] <slow-motion> lol nice reaction from a bot
[18:29] <wyn> LunaVorax: cool as, usb rocks
[18:29] <majnoon> we need make ubbotto so can kick pitas
[18:29] <wyn> Pici: fair enough
[18:29] <ilovefairuz> FastReading: not sure that the lucid livecd supports being written to a usb pendrive using dd (unlike more "intelligent" approaches like the one unetbootin uses)
[18:29] <Pici> Its already been taken care of, feel free to ignore.
[18:29] <LunaVorax> What wyn ?
[18:30] <wyn> LunaVorax: USB install rocks, I have four live disks on one USB, very handy
[18:30] <sdk> Does anyone know of a simple way to remove a middle segment from a video clip?  I have 5 different video editors installed, and cannot find a simple way to just 'highlight, right click, cut, merge'.. Help please?  I'm a rank n00b here.
[18:30] <itsux2bu> 32-bit vs 64-bit ubuntu desktop as a guest OS in virtualbox.. which one?
[18:30] <LunaVorax> wyn... yeah... what's the connection with my macbook problem ?
[18:30] <TheLimeRunner> As far as I know Virtual box doesn't run 64-bit oses
[18:30] <abhijit> !64 | itsux2bu
[18:30] <Doug_Edey> itsux2bu, depends what you're doing?
[18:31] <abhijit> TheLimeRunner, it runs. cpu should support it.
[18:31] <TheLimeRunner> Then again, I never tested it on a 64-bit system.
[18:31] <LunaVorax> TheLimeRunner, it does
[18:31] <TheLimeRunner> Ah.
[18:31] <itsux2bu> Doug_Edey, teaching myself ubuntu
[18:31] <wyn> LunaVorax: errr installing from USB / pendrive
[18:31] <LunaVorax> TheLimeRunner otherwise i would be screwed :D
[18:31] <TheLimeRunner> I usually use the i686 with PAE.
[18:31] <LunaVorax> wyn what ? I never talked about that ???! ._.
[18:31] <Xpistos> Anyone have ideas with an xchat issue
[18:31] <itsux2bu> Doug_Edey, trying to make it do everything my 32-bit vista can do..
[18:31] <Doug_Edey> itsux2bu, tbh, I'd start with 32bit, there's still a lot of library issues with 64bit from my very recent experience.
[18:31] <iRy> !Was somebody able to install the Qualcomm Gobi Firmware correctly on Lucid?? Need helb
[18:32] <fg> other  is  no body
[18:32] <wyn> LunaVorax: woops , to many IRC tags around !
[18:32] <Xpistos> or xchat/irssi/weechat/pidgin issue
[18:32] <Doug_Edey> itsux2bu, Easy enough then, it'll probably run faster tho :)
[18:32] <LunaVorax> wyn np :)
[18:32] <iRy> Was somebody able to install the Qualcomm Gobi Firmware correctly on Lucid?? Need help
[18:32] <itsux2bu> same in pc world.. 64-bit just ain't ready for prime time yet
[18:32] <TheLimeRunner> Well, aptitude finished the system upgrade
[18:32] <TheLimeRunner> time to install xorg and LXDE.
[18:32] <fg> who  use  win7
[18:32] <abhijit> itsux2bu, it is ready. i am using lucid 64 bit..
[18:33] <dot-slaSh> Hey guys, I'm interested in performing some network data transfer and speed tests, can anyone recommend some tools or ideas of how to obtain speed metrics to show management? I really only know of running '$ time {sftp|ftp|svn|git}' commands to show time of transfer downloads. Any thoughts/ideas?
[18:33] <dot-slaSh> I'd like to show transfers with time/speed/bandwidth metrics for things like downloading from a central server from across our global WAN.
[18:33] <Doug_Edey> itsux2bu, most stuff will probably work, but for me the developers of a lot of apps I have to use for my job haven't hit the 64bit compile button yet (stupid)
[18:33] <wyn> itsux2bu: I use 64bit every day on many servers, many of them virtual
[18:33] <sdk> itsux2bu: Feh, finding that out, unfortunately.. Especially if you're trying to build something, like say Wine.
[18:34] <erUSUL> dot-slaSh: http://www.netperf.org/netperf/
[18:34] <fg> who  konw  java
[18:34] <cached> if i reinstall postgres from scratch, what happens to my existing databases?
[18:34] <wyn> fg: What is win7 ? I have Windows in my wall but not sure what they have to do with OS's
[18:34] <dot-slaSh> erUSUL: thanks Ill check it out.
[18:35] <lindsaymobil22> who has testing lucid.1
[18:35] <sacarlson> dot-slaSh: well that's broad subject,  you can collect long duration with cacti or you can collect very detailed data collection and graphs with wireshark.
[18:35] <ilovefairuz> !ot | fg
[18:35] <cached> wyn: If you're trying to act dumb, make sure not to capitalize the 'non-'proper noun.
[18:35] <dot-slaSh> cached: backup first, always backup do a dump before anything and you can always restore it.
[18:35] <lindsaymobil22> !abuse
[18:35] <lindsaymobil22> lol in twil the bot shouts
[18:35] <TheLimeRunner> Oh gof.
[18:35] <TheLimeRunner> *god
[18:35] <TheLimeRunner> you're here too?
[18:35] <sdk> fg: My friend, you're probably in the wrong area to be asking questions about Microsoft.
[18:36] <lindsaymobil22> fg: ##windows
[18:36] <jrock2004> Trying to install ubuntu on white MacBook. I get a black screen after clicking install
[18:36] <dot-slaSh> sacarlson, okay never used cacti, but I've used wireshark. Forgot about that one for this purpose, thanks!
[18:36] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[18:36] <TheLimeRunner> jrock2004 Try using the alternate install.
[18:36] <wyn> sdk: I use xine, I just click on them , delete/remove them and it does the rest
[18:36] <lindsaymobil22> jrock2004: hmmm, i know linux dosent really like macs, have you verified your image?
[18:37] <sanduz2> it doesnt seem that my /etc/hosts is working. can someone help me out? i put "<IP_ADDRESS>:8080 example.net example.org" as one of the entries. im trying to test virtual hosts by typing example.net in the browser
[18:37] <sdk> wyn: xine does video editing?  OMW!  Thanks!
[18:37] <bsod1> hi guys, I'm looking for a program that allows me to upload files to my server with just one command from terminal
[18:37] <fg> sorry
[18:37] <wyn> cached: if your going to try and insult me please try harder
[18:37] <FastReading> bsod1: have you tried lftp?
[18:37] <fg> I am  very sorry
[18:37] <mbeierl> sanduz2: /etc/hosts cannot contain port numbers.  It's not for virtual hosts that way
[18:37] <sdk> bsod1: scp
[18:38] <lindsaymobil22> fg: lol dont worry, whatever you did
[18:38] <jrock2004> TheLimeRunner: I will try that next
[18:38] <bsod1> ok, I'll try both of them, thanks
[18:38] <Doug_Edey> bsod1, ncftpput?
[18:38] <sdk> fg: no problem, just letting you know.
[18:38] <sanduz2> oh ok
[18:38] <mbeierl> sanduz2: it is a very simple alias: ipaddress name1 name2 name3, etc only.
[18:38] <fg> I  dont know the soft you see  is what
[18:38] <wyn> sdk: NP :)
[18:38] <fg> how t o  use
[18:38] <TheLimeRunner> jrock2004 If that doesn't work, download the server image and do a minimal install.
[18:38] <sanduz2> thanks my server runs on 8080 so ill try to change it then
[18:38] <sdk> fg: what is your native language?
[18:38] <TheLimeRunner> http://wiki.dennyhalim.com/ubuntu-minimal-desktop
[18:38] <dot-slaSh> sacarlson, Essentially our customers/partners are complaining about our slow FTP site, we need to have available data transfers server with (FTP, Git, SVN, etc) and want to compare a enterprise cloud solution to put data for customers, partners, and our global company to share data to/from. I need to show comparison between our existing FTP server and this new server to see if it outperforms under our 3-day-trial.
[18:38] <sacarlson> sdk: kino will edit digital video
[18:39] <fg> china
[18:39] <abhijit> !cn | fg
[18:39] <mbeierl> you can put in <IP_ADDRESS> example.net and then in your browser url enter "http://example.net:8080"
[18:39] <mbeierl> sanduz2: ^
[18:39] <dot-slaSh> 30-day-trial that is...
[18:39] <sdk> abhijit: Heh, you stole the words right out of my mouth.. err.. fingers.. :->
[18:39] <fg> thans
[18:39] <sanduz2> ah good thinking mbeierl thanks
[18:40] <cached> wyn: i wasn't trying to insult you. i was pointing out that, despite your claims, you know what Windows is, and if you wish to play along as though you don't know what it is, say "I have windows in my wall..." instead of "I have Windows in my wall..."
[18:40] <abhijit> sdk, :P
[18:40] <mbeierl> sanduz2: you're welcome :)
[18:40] <fg> I  am  long long  ago  use the linux  for  VM
[18:40] <sacarlson> dot-slaSh: 3 days sounds like cacti then.  it can monitor many servers at the same time or you can distrubute and run the in different places
[18:40] <sdk> sacarlson: I have several video editors, I'm trying to find a simple way to remove an unwanted segment from a video, and there does not seem to be a simple way.
[18:40] <cached> fg: interesting use of whitespace
[18:40] <fg> today  I firs  use  this
[18:40] <wyn> dot-slaSh: you don't use server monitoring ?
[18:41] <FastReading> sdk: try "avidemux"
[18:41] <fg>  I jon on  with  wrong
[18:41] <sacarlson> skd: well kino was the only one I remembe playing with.  it's not too complicated was much like adobe premere
[18:41] <sdk> fg: please do a" /join #ubuntu-cn " you will get much more help there.
[18:41] <fg> so  I  am quit
[18:42] <KevinSJ> If I want to add a new user to a group, how do I do=
[18:42] <wyn> cached: you mean when I am referring to Windows and making a pun (or play) on the words , in that context ? how is England these days btw ?
[18:42] <KevinSJ> ?
[18:42] <sdk> fg: shea shea.
[18:42] <fg>  I am tied
[18:42] <dot-slaSh> wyn: we have lots of data on our existing FTP site for software releases and trials and a whole lot more. People sometimes have to go home to download an ISO cause its faster than at works (sometimes), but we have strong requirements to share data from our global WAN between our company and partners/clients, etc.
[18:42] <fg> I  need sleeping
[18:42] <fg> bye  bye
[18:42] <tortoise7> is there a program that will give me a breakdown on hardware components?
[18:42] <sdk> fg: Bye.
[18:42] <fg> thank  all
[18:43] <dot-slaSh> wyn: IT handles the monitoring but we've screamed about how slow it is and nothing really has changed.
[18:43] <Doug_Edey> tortoise7, lshw?
[18:43] <wyn> dotslaSh: virtual servers or "real" ?
[18:43] <sacarlson> dot-slaSh: maybe you should think of torrent server if you have such a big load on ftp
[18:43] <dot-slaSh> wyn: our existing FTP server is a dedicated server, this enterpise cloud solution uses VMs
[18:44] <erUSUL> tortoise7: lshw there is a gui for it too lshw-gtk
[18:44] <FastReading> KevinSJ: you have to edit the file /etc/group
[18:44] <tortoise7> Bingo!   thanks
[18:44] <bsod1> hi guys, I'm looking for a program that allows me to upload files to my server with just one command from terminal, I tried lftp but I don't think it can upload my files with just one command
[18:45] <FastReading> KevinSJ: there you add the users to each group, separated by commas, if I am not mistaken
[18:45] <wyn> dotslaSh: try something like Munin, you can watch all bandwidth data, memory and resources usage across mutable servers
[18:45] <Doug_Edey> bsod1, ncftpput
[18:45] <KevinSJ> FastReading, I did adduser username
[18:45] <KevinSJ> FastReading, I did adduser username group
[18:45] <dot-slaSh> wyn: there's also a big need for Security and authentication/access-control as well for certain projects... but that's later if we can show management the cloud solutions improves over our existing solution.
[18:45] <bsod1> Doug_Edey: I couldn't find it in my synaptic
[18:45] <Doug_Edey> it comes with nccftp
[18:45] <wyn> bsod1: just use scp  IE  scp somefile user@someserver:
[18:45] <FastReading> KevinSJ: did it work?
[18:46] <bsod1> Doug_Edey: do you mean ncftp? with one 'n'
[18:46] <bsod1> with one 'c', sorry
[18:46] <Doug_Edey> bsod1, yes, bouncy keyboard :)
[18:46] <bsod1> wyn: it looks good, let me try
[18:46] <TheLimeRunner> Okay, I have a question now.
[18:47] <KevinSJ> FastReading, Seems so. Is it possible to list a group's member
[18:47] <TheLimeRunner> When I install the proprietary nVidia drivers for my GeForce 4MX 420
[18:47] <TheLimeRunner> my screen resoltuion is capped at 800X600
[18:47] <Doug_Edey> TheLimeRunner, better be  a good one ;)
[18:47] <wyn> dot-slaSh: Munin is for monitoring and you can then compare, we did not use a cloud but switched to virtual servers and improved our network infrastructure, you can also consider hosting large downloads at a host setup for it which i guess is what you mean
[18:47] <dot-slaSh> bsod1, You can use SCP, RSYNC, NCFTP... but you will be required to enter username/password. To avoid this you can copy your SSH/RSA public key to the remote server to use just one command. Or use a Perl script or something....
[18:47] <TheLimeRunner> But when I don't have it installed I can do the full 1024x768
[18:48] <TheLimeRunner> Any ideas?
[18:48] <wyn> bsod1: do remember the : on the end as that puts it in your home folder
[18:48] <bsod1> dot-slaSh: I have no idea about ssh/rss keys
[18:48] <cached> how do i find out where the postgres databases are being physically stored? I want to do a file-system level backup
[18:48] <FastReading> KevinSJ: yeah, "cat /etc/group" , look for the row with the group you want to query and in the same line, separated by commas, there will be the list of users
[18:48] <Doug_Edey> TheLimeRunner: Which driver?
[18:48] <wyn> dotslaSh: Im way to para about security to do that : )
[18:48] <dot-slaSh> bsod1, it basically is uploading or adding your SSH public key to the remote server to have "password-less" access. you can read on that...
[18:49] <TheLimeRunner> I don't know the exact one, as I am currently doing the reinstall. But only one came up in the hardware drivers dialouge.
[18:49] <bsod1> dot-slaSh: then I can use scp?
[18:49] <seekwill> cached: I'd talk to #postgresql about your plans...
[18:49] <iRy> Does somebody have a HOWTO to install the Qualcomm Gobi firmware and driver?
[18:49] <cached> seekwill: why's that?
[18:49] <Doug_Edey> TheLimeRunner, You need to manually install the legacy driver,
[18:49] <TheLimeRunner> What's the name of the package?
[18:50] <wyn> cached: normally tar -cf backup.tar /usr/local/pgsql/data will do it
[18:50] <dot-slaSh> bsod1, you can use scp without the rsa/ssh keys but it will prompt for username/password. if you dont wnat to have to enter user/passwd then you can use the rsa/ssh keys.
[18:50] <cached> wyn: there is no /usr/local/pgsql
[18:50] <bsod1> dot-slaSh: ok, thanks.
[18:50] <Doug_Edey> TheLimeRunner, http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html You want the 96.43 series I think
[18:50] <wyn> cached: maybe a diffrent place on mine then yours , grep for it
[18:50] <KevinSJ> FastReading, Thanks.
[18:50] <cached> wyn: grep for what? pgsql?
[18:51] <KevinSJ> FastReading, what does the xNumber mean?
[18:51] <KevinSJ> FastReading, for an example: ksj:x:1005:
[18:51] <FastReading> that's the password, which is shadowed, so that the file cannot be cracked
[18:51] <TheLimeRunner> Doug_edgy Alright I'll give it a shot.
[18:51] <TheLimeRunner> Thanks.
[18:51] <dot-slaSh> bsod1, you can read on rsa/ssh keys here: http://linuxproblem.org/art_9.html
[18:51] <wyn> cached: psql/data
[18:51] <bsod1> dot-slaSh: great, thanks!
[18:52] <Doug_Edey> TheLimeRunner, I'm not Doug_Edgy :P
[18:52] <sipior> cached: is there nothing relevant in /var/lib?
[18:52] <Taravel> hello, I installed ubuntu 10.04.1 on an old pc. When I reboot the first time the PC I can only see a black screen....any idea?
[18:52] <TheLimeRunner> Oops sorry.
[18:52] <dot-slaSh> cached, your looking for pgsql? yea it might be in /var/lib/
[18:53] <wyn> cached: on mine its here (checked lucid) /var/lib/postgresql/8.4/main
[18:53] <Taravel> PS.: I tryed debian stable and it worked creating a boot partition because thi PC is old and need this partition
[18:53] <wyn> cached: I was on another flavour on ssh, forgot it wasnt ubuntu : )
[18:53] <dot-slaSh> why is ubuntu ssh so slow, rDNS?
[18:54] <sacarlson> Taravel: there used to be a trick to setup graphics to vesa if the graphic drivers didn't work.  not sure how to implement that now.
[18:54] <alkemann> i installed eclipse (ide) with apt-get .. so dumb question, how do I start it ? it didnt appear under the Programming menu
[18:54] <cached> wyn: so if i backup /var/lib/postgresql/8.3/main i'm safe?
[18:54] <Taravel> d'oh so I can't run ubuntu?
[18:55] <Doug_Edey> Taravel: Boot off the livecd, mount the internal hard drive on the PC and etc /media/drive_name/etc/xorg.conf (may need to be recreated)
[18:55] <sacarlson> Taravel: it was a boot thing like add vga=XXX or something like that
[18:55] <wyn> cached: yes, though there are better ways to back it up which mean you can restore much faster if you need to make a clean install
[18:55] <cached> dot-slaSh: there is a /var/lib/postgresql
[18:55] <cached> wyn: i can't run the server, which is why i want to make a clean install
[18:55] <computerfreaker> I just booted up my computer with that LiveCD, and the Verify CD option found no errors. Does anybody know why this is working on one computer but not another?
[18:55] <wyn> cached: ouch : ( yeah back that folder up, then move it back on
[18:55] <dot-slaSh> cached: you're better off backing up with postgres dump first, you can also stop pgsql and then copy that directory but the dump is preferred
[18:56] <Taravel> the problem is that I can't run live cd...I installed ubuntu by means of alternate cd
[18:56] <cached> dot-slaSh: i can't run the server. it's broken =(
[18:56] <dot-slaSh> cached, use this: pg_dumpall -U postgres > ${BUALL_FILE}
[18:56] <dot-slaSh> cached, eewww
[18:56] <computerfreaker> Does the LiveCD require a minimum amount of RAM (I'm using the 8.10 desktop version, if that makes a difference)? I'm asking because I just removed a faulty RAM module from the laptop that won't work with the LiveCD.
[18:57] <dot-slaSh> cached, I guess having a backup of that /var/lib/pgsql/data/ would be next best thing but not a guarantee.....
[18:58] <Doug_Edey> Taravel: when the screen goes blank can you use ctrl-alt-F1 to get to a text screen?
[18:58] <dot-slaSh> cached, I would cp -r /var/lib/pgsql/data/ /var/lib/pgsql/data.bak or somewhere else outside of that area and try to re-install pgsql-server
[18:58] <wyn> cached: best way is to backit up and make a clean same version install, move that daa folder out the way and cp over your backup, restart and do a pg_dump to rescue it
[18:58] <dagny_taggart> computerfreaker: 256 is minimum for 8.10 - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidReleaseNotes
[18:58] <cached> dot-slaSh: i'm going to backup off the server entirely in case something dies
[18:58] <Doug_Edey> computerfreaker: Have you run memtest on your RAM that's left in?
[18:59] <cached> dot-slaSh: but that's the plan
[18:59] <wyn> cached: daa= data, not enough coffee : )
[18:59] <Z_God> hi, I'm experiencing a problem with X11 in lucid right now, no mouse events are getting to my applications anymore, a few minutes ago it was still working
[18:59] <dot-slaSh> cached: probably late now, but you had nothing for pd_dump running before this happend?
[18:59] <cached> wyn: sounds like a plan =)
[19:00] <Z_God> I also had strange xkb issues before, is X.org in lucid stable?
[19:00] <dot-slaSh> cached, if you get this setup and restored, you should setup crontab job that does pg_dumps of the database(s)...
[19:00] <wyn> cached: indeed : )
[19:02] <Petey_Greene> Yes
[19:02] <Taravel> Doug_Edey: no ctrl-alt-F1 doesn't work
[19:02] <Taravel> I have an ATI video card
[19:02] <Taravel> ATI Radeon 9000 series for notebook
[19:02] <tripps> hello! I'm using xchat that comes with lucid lynx and it doesn't appear to have the option to show channels as tabs and only shows them in the sidebar instead. Is there a way to switch to tabbed view?
[19:02] <dot-slaSh> cached: you know how to edit bash scripts?
[19:02] <TheLimeRunner> tripps I think you need xchat-gnome for that.
[19:03] <TheLimeRunner> or gnome-xchat
[19:03] <sacarlson> Taravel: did you figure out how to setup kernel to boot with vesa video driver?
[19:03] <TheLimeRunner> The gnome version of xchat
[19:03] <tripps> TheLimeRunner, that appears to be what I'm running
[19:04] <TheLimeRunner> Hmm
[19:04] <wyn> tripps: if there is I have not found it yet and Im using the same client as you
[19:04] <TheLimeRunner> Well maybe it's an xchat thing.
[19:04] <Taravel> please help me :(
[19:04] <TheLimeRunner> Found it
[19:04] <TheLimeRunner> Settings preferences
[19:04] <TheLimeRunner> Channel switcher
[19:04] <TheLimeRunner> select tabs
[19:04] <dot-slaSh> cached: Curious, you know how to edit bash scripts?
[19:04] <Doug_Edey> Taravel, do you hear the Ubuntu Drums if you leave the system for long enough?
[19:05] <dendrite> o/ is ther a way to set a widescreen resolution in the framebufer when using ctrl+alt+f1 or similar console in ubuntu?
[19:05] <cached> dot-slaSh: sure. why?
[19:05] <xiven> Would installing XServer and KDE onto my VPS take much of a hit in terms of memory for the web server?
[19:05] <TheLimeRunner> tripps go to settings preferences channel switcher and select tabs
[19:05] <sacarlson> Taravel: try add this to the boot line in grub vga=316
[19:05] <ongolaBoy> hello. can I know why in Jaunty firefox has been suddenly updated to firefox 3.6. ?  No more fix will be provided for the 3.0 version ?
[19:05] <Doug_Edey> Taravel, also, are any lights flashing>?
[19:05] <wyn> Txiven: No, what web server ?
[19:05] <kantor> Hi, on my keyboard the 'z' key, is not working,  is there a linux program that allows me to create a key combination to print that letter wherever I want ?
[19:05] <dot-slaSh> cached: because I thought you could use this to help in the future, it could be better but it works for me.
[19:05] <dot-slaSh> cahced: cached: this is my production pgsql server backup job that runs everyda http://pastebin.com/xQ6uSyAg
[19:05] <sinurge> ongolaBoy, why would u want to keep urs at 3.0
[19:06] <Taravel> the LCD light doesn't flash
[19:06] <Taravel> typing the user name and pass. doeas't works
[19:06] <xiven> Or even IceWm, just so I can have a graphical desktop for administration when I want to use that method. Nginx is the web server itself.
[19:06] <tripps> TheLimeRunner, I don't see that option under preferences
[19:06] <ongolaBoy> sinurge: I just want to know the reason of this update... no , upgrade :)
[19:06] <wyn> xiven: No, what web server ?
[19:06] <Taravel> how can I add the boot line?
[19:06] <xiven> nGinx with PHP5, FastCGI
[19:06] <wyn> xiven: Why would you need a GUI for Nginx ?
[19:06] <sacarlson> Taravel: what grub is installed grub2?
[19:07]  * KomiaPoika prefers dosshell
[19:07] <sinurge> ongolaBoy, cuz it does not make any sense to keep fox at 3.0
[19:07] <dot-slaSh> cached: as root I added that job to run to backup all the databases and also one database called fossology. it runs daily and should help if I need to restore =D
[19:07] <sacarlson> Taravel: I think you just hold the shift key
[19:07] <Taravel> I don't know I installed ubuntu 10.04.1
[19:07] <alkemann> installed a program with apt-get, cant find it and nothing on the menu. how do i find the executable? it's a gui app (Eclipse)
[19:07] <trippss> TheLimeRunner, ah got it now - installed the regular xchat and it's good to go
[19:07] <Doug_Edey> Don't install Eclipse from apt alkemann
[19:08] <Taravel> yeah the shift key let me to see the tabel of kernels
[19:08] <alkemann> Doug_Edey: so i should auto-remove and install with software centeR?
[19:08] <Doug_Edey> alkemann, download the archive from eclipse.org and just unpack it to a directory of your choice
[19:08] <xiven> I almost say don't install Eclipse at all, it seems to eat resources, however, I'm giving it another shot.
[19:08] <cached> dot-slaSh: that looks like it does a complete backup every day? wouldn't diffing make more sense?
[19:08] <Taravel> but when I select the first The blank screen appears but I can see only a flash of the screen
[19:08] <Petey_Greene> alkemann, type which gui app
[19:08] <ongolaBoy> sinurge: I'm not convinced... usually, when you have a release,you don't push to that level when talking about updates...
[19:08] <trippss> that's kind of a bummer the ubuntu supported xchat strips out all the options
[19:08] <Doug_Edey> alkemann, Software Center wraps aptitude
[19:09] <alkemann> Petey_Greene: i tried, nothing
[19:09] <Petey_Greene> alkemann, most linux applications are installed in /usr/bin
[19:09] <dendrite> what happened to menu.lst in ubuntu 10.04
[19:09] <Doug_Edey> xiven, it takes some getting used to but it doesn't run on a slow machine :)
[19:09] <ongolaBoy> sinurge: you only allow security updates ...
[19:09] <Pici> !grub2 | dendrite
[19:09] <dot-slaSh> cached: you can setup incrementals but our data is very very important so restore a complete backup makes more sense to me. Like I said it could be better but it works for me...
[19:09] <Taravel> grub version is 1.98
[19:09] <trippss> now for my real question :) - how to I install the widget layer plugin for compiz?
[19:09] <itsux2bu> has anyone every used the linux drivers supplied by nvidia on their website?
[19:09] <Petey_Greene> dendrite, its gone
[19:09] <dendrite> ok thx guys
[19:09] <Doug_Edey> dendrite, it got swapped with grub2 stuff (1.98 is)
[19:09] <itsux2bu> *ever used
[19:09] <Doug_Edey> itsux2bu, yes
[19:10] <wyn> tripps: you should try irssi  : )
[19:10] <itsux2bu> Doug_Edey, success?
[19:10] <CuDobh> itsux2bu, yes but ages ago it seems
[19:10] <Doug_Edey> itsux2bu, yup, ctrl-alt-F1 to get to a terminal, sudo service gdm stop, run the binary installer from nvidia
[19:11]  * CuDobh is remembering now since Doug_Edey reminded
[19:11] <Doug_Edey> CuDobh, whut did I do?
[19:11] <itsux2bu> Doug_Edey, well i find stop gdm works best.. but thats a minor point..
[19:11] <CuDobh> Reminded me of how to install Nvidia-drv....
[19:12] <Doug_Edey> itsux2bu, I use the service interface, more control/recovery if it goes tits up imo
[19:12] <Doug_Edey> CuDobh, I had to do it every kernel update on my T61p
[19:13] <CuDobh> Ahh.. Ok.. sitting with an all Intel machine for the moment...so .. no troubles..or many..
[19:13] <sacarlson> Taravel: did you try hold down the shift key at boot to get to the grub2 console?
[19:13] <tripps> wyn, yeah agree that's a nice client
[19:13] <Taravel> sacarlson: I pressed shift and than 'e' where should I insert the line?
[19:13] <wyn> tripps: :D
[19:13] <Doug_Edey> CuDobh, wait till they really force their new driver on you :)
[19:13] <sacarlson> in the line provided  I guess try vga=316
[19:14] <CuDobh> Doug_Edey, been on that Dell D630 for 3 years .. running 10.04 and still no graphicstroubles
[19:14] <Petey_Greene> damn No 64 bit Google Earth for Ubuntu Linux that sucks
[19:15] <Doug_Edey> CuDobh, I got a D830 for my personal machine, no issues with the drivers on the repos, but I was running 9.10 at for a long time, I didn't want to take my system down at work for too long
[19:15] <Neurotiquette> How can I tell which version of Ubuntu I'm on?
[19:16] <itsux2bu> everytime research 32-bit vs 64-bit for whatever OS (win, *nix, etc) 32-bit always seems more versatile
[19:16] <CuDobh> Doug_Edey, hear ya.. and understand.. good to know who ask when the DAY comes :)
[19:16] <itsux2bu> *everytime i
[19:16] <CuDobh> who to ask even
[19:16] <abhijit> Neurotiquette, lsb_release -a
[19:16] <Neurotiquette> abhijit: thanks
[19:16] <Doug_Edey> itsux2bu, because everyone and their dog uses it, it's the chicken & egg issue
[19:16] <abhijit> Neurotiquette, welcome.
[19:17] <aeon-ltd> itsux2bu: yeah currently, but 64bit will be standard some day and eventually we will reap the gains
[19:17] <Doug_Edey> CuDobh, If you don't see me around that day...
[19:17] <poi77> Hi! I'm wondering, how can I use gdb for core file analysis?
[19:18] <Taravel> sacarlson: I pressed shift and than 'e' where should I insert the line?
[19:18] <Doug_Edey> poi77, wrong channel for that, you want a developer channel
[19:18] <sacarlson> Taravel: I'm reading this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[19:19] <OpenSourcedNick> where do I find dictionary files for GoldenDict ?
[19:20] <itsux2bu> whats the *nix place to put the nvidia drivers?
[19:20] <Doug_Edey> how do you mean?
[19:21] <itsux2bu> /etc ?
[19:21] <itsux2bu> /home/jim   ?
[19:22] <Doug_Edey> oh, some of it goes in your apps directory, most of it is modules in terms of volumes
[19:22] <Doug_Edey> if you find the binary package in synaptic, you can go to the properties and it'll tell you installed files
[19:22] <sacarlson> Taravel: I think you want to edit that linux line if that's posible
[19:23] <Young_Money> an AMD64 dual core is a noticibly faster machine running Ubuntu Linux
[19:23] <lov255> ls
[19:23] <Neurotiquette> How do I install rabbitvcs on ubuntu? I ran this command per it's website... sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rabbitvcs/ppa
[19:23] <sacarlson> Taravel: I am now reading this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Command%20Line%20&%20Rescue%20Mode
[19:24] <Taravel> I tryed to insert "vga=316" at the end but I can't save this editing...is there any way?
[19:24] <wyn> Neurotiquette: that just adds the repo to apt, no do an apt-get update and apt-get install
[19:24] <j800r> Neurotiquette, after adding the ppa, do "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install rabbitvcs"
[19:24] <jellow> Neurotiquette: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install rabbitvcs
[19:25] <wyn> 3 same answers, 3 diffrent chat lag times :D
[19:26]  * jellow goes to bed
[19:27] <sacarlson> Taravel: well if it makes it work then add it to the grub config file
[19:28] <Taravel> no I type in that line at the end of the list of commands but when I reboot that line is erased
[19:28] <Taravel> but I tryed to insert user name and pass and the HD works for a little
[19:28] <sacarlson> Taravel: sorry I'm too tired it's late here.  I need sleep.  I will leave you to the next shift.
[19:29] <Taravel> ok thanks :) see you soon
[19:29] <lov255> ]ls
[19:31] <canthus13> How would one go about downloading an entire repository?
[19:31] <Taravel> another thing I heard drums this time
[19:31] <Taravel> :( any other Idea?
[19:31] <wastl> hi
[19:31] <erUSUL> !mirror
[19:31] <amikrop> Hello, I have 4GB RAM, but my 32bit Ubuntu installation recognizes only the 3.2GB of it. Should I reinstall a 64bit Ubuntu version?
[19:31] <computerfreaker> Doug_Edey: no, I can't get the RAM test to work. The LiveCD just freezes.
[19:32] <amikrop> Or will it be unstable and some programs won't runt (well) on it?
[19:32] <wastl> amikrop: I think this is more your bios that takes the "missing" ram for video ram and management
[19:33] <wyn> itsux2bu: why does  it suck to be me btw ?
[19:33] <amikrop> wastl: You mean, this is a general, common issue
[19:33] <amikrop> ?
[19:33] <Alonea> has anyone gotten usb to work with virtual box? I uninstalled what I have and installed the Lucid one from their website. I added the usb filters for the devices I want to use, I checked the 2.0 thing. No dice. How do you get usb to work???
[19:33] <Doug_Edey> computerfreaker: No USB support?
[19:34] <wastl> amikrop,: yes...bios takes some ram for video ram and management...thsi can be up to 1g afair
[19:34] <computerfreaker> Doug_Edey: I don't think so.
[19:34] <Doug_Edey> computerfreaker, hate to ask... You tried a floppy?
[19:35] <dschuett> Would anyone care to help me understand where to save my iptables script to get it to run everytime i boot the computer. I am running ubuntu server 10.04
[19:35] <amikrop> wastl: but I am being told that switching to 64bit will show the whole memory
[19:35] <computerfreaker> Doug_Edey: no, this computer doesn't have floppy support. I tried a CD.
[19:35] <Viliny_> hello, am i here? :)
[19:35] <wastl> amikrop: I don't think it will
[19:35] <mbeierl> dschuett: are you using iptables directly or ufw (ubuntu firewall) ?
[19:35] <mbeierl> Viliny_: no.
[19:35] <dschuett> iptables directly
[19:36] <Young_Money> its best to switch to 64bit if you have more than 2GB of RAM
[19:36] <wastl> ah thats humbug
[19:36] <Doug_Edey> computerfreaker, hmmm, no idea, I'm willing to suspect that when it tries to load the CD into RAM it has issues and hence the issue
[19:36] <Viliny_> hey quick question. Ubuntu has the remote desktop setup GUI but theres no place to input preferred port there, where can i configure the listening port?
[19:36] <wyn> Viliny_: do you think ?
[19:36] <Viliny_> do i think?
[19:36] <wyn> Viliny_: therefore are you ?
[19:36] <mbeierl> dschuett: what I do is an iptables-save > /etc/iptables.txt and then add "/sbin/iptables-restore < /etc/iptables-txt" to /etc/rc.local
[19:36] <Doug_Edey> Young_Money, why? Just use PAE
[19:36] <Linden940> viliny try team viewer
[19:36] <wyn> Viliny_: I think therefore I am :D
[19:37] <computerfreaker> Doug_Edey: like too little RAM, perhaps? (Not sure if you saw my earlier message or not, but I just finished removing a faulty RAM module from the computer - it only has one RAM module left)
[19:37] <Viliny_> hehe, didn't mean to sound existential. Just wondering if my nick registering vent a-ok!
[19:37] <Doug_Edey> computerfreaker, how much is in there? How do you know it was that module that was faulty and not the other?
[19:37] <mbeierl> Viliny_: it vent vell apparently :)
[19:37] <felicity> am trying to compile tint2, but i kep getting this error, "gtk+-x11-2.0 not found" what do i need to install?
[19:37] <wyn> Viliny_: ah, you never now ; )
[19:38] <wyn> or know...
[19:38] <erUSUL> felicity: libgtk2.0-dev ?
[19:38] <gabrielcz> Hi all there...   I need some help with MONIT please?
[19:38] <amokpaule> Hello, when i watch a video on youtube and when i dont use keyboard or mouse ubun tu switches back to the login screen, can i turn that off?
[19:38] <wastl> felicity, sounds like you're missing some o the gtk devel packages
[19:38] <Young_Money> fact that 32 bits can't address more than 2GB of RAM
[19:38] <gabrielcz> anyone can helpping me setting a new monitoring using MONIT?
[19:38] <Viliny_> Young_Money: the fact being somewhere closer to 3
[19:38] <Doug_Edey> Young_Money, yes, yes it can, 3.25GB infact
[19:38] <computerfreaker> Doug_Edey: when I tried booting into Windows, I got a BSOD due to RAM issues, then all kinds of weirdness on the screen, so I figured it had to be a RAM issue. I removed one module and tried booting up with the other and got the same issue; I replaced the second module and pulled out the first, and the system is working better now.
[19:38] <Young_Money> lol
[19:38] <dschuett> mbeierl: ok, that makes sense! thanks! - I am having trouble getting my ubuntu router/firewall to work properly - do you know what i need to add to allow traffice to get routed out my eth0 (external/internet)??
[19:39] <wastl> the configure scripts use some tool to check for libgtk that is in the devel package
[19:39] <erUSUL> Young_Money: therical limit is 4 GiB usually is less ( aroun 3.3 GiB )
[19:39] <Young_Money> Doug_Edey, I have 4GB in a dual core AMD64
[19:39] <mbeierl> dschuett: you are attempting to do masquerading?
[19:39] <wastl> or maybe your error is from pkg-config then it means that just this package is not installed
[19:39] <Doug_Edey> Young_Money, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[19:39] <Young_Money> Doug_Edey, thanks
[19:39]  * wyn loves Monit
[19:40] <computerfreaker> There are 256 MB of RAM in the machine now; there were 512 MB of RAM in there when I started working on it.
[19:40] <Doug_Edey> computerfreaker, There could still be issues on that other module, do you have any known good?
[19:40] <wyn> gabrielcz: whats the issue with it ?
[19:40] <goldins> how do I install openoffice.org-base ?
[19:40] <Doug_Edey> Young_Money, limit is applications, not the OS
[19:40] <Young_Money> computerfreaker, You must have a tough time compiling programs on your computer
[19:41] <gabrielcz> Don´t know, wyn Im trying to setup a new monitoring service "mumble-server" using if failed port 80 then alert
[19:41] <KomiaPoika> why does gnome in ubuntu lucid lynx sometimes crash my wifi connection and it's impossible to restart it until i reboot?
[19:41] <Viliny_> well while i was waiting for someone to know where to change the default vnc server port on ubuntu i gone done remembered the port i managed to put it to sometime in the past - so if nobody knows the answer i'll just be piping down :)
[19:41] <Young_Money> Doug_Edey, okay thanks for the info
[19:41] <gabrielcz> But, I get some error
[19:41] <computerfreaker> Doug_Edey: no, I don't have any modules that are proven OK, but the total absence of BSODs & screen weirdness since I removed the one module is just about enough to convince me
[19:41] <wyn> goldins: use the package manager or synaptic or apt
[19:41] <gabrielcz> I can paste you the conf. wyn
[19:41] <goldins> wyn: what's the package called?
[19:41] <computerfreaker> Young_Money: it's not my machine, it's a friend's. My machine has 2 GB.
[19:41] <goldins> wyn: never mind
[19:42] <wyn> goldins: open office will install it when you install open office..
[19:42] <amikrop> wastl: when I get into BIOS settings, it shows 4GB RAM, but with the Ubuntu utility I am shown only 3.2GB
[19:42] <gabrielcz> https://gist.github.com/345b760e19deb326401b  wyn that for you :)  the MUMBLE-SERVER part is not woking
[19:42] <Doug_Edey> could still be issues though computerfreaker  that Windows doesn't detect, XP can run in 128MB IIRC, whereas a liveCD uses much more. Does the CD cause the system to crash instantly
[19:42] <wyn> gabrielcz:  its off topic here but NP with me
[19:42] <Doug_Edey> amikrop, install the PAE kernel
[19:42] <Young_Money> computerfreaker, any computer with under 1GB RAM nowadays is a very slow turtle
[19:42] <gabrielcz> ho, thanks wyn for helping me :) I don´t know where to ask it #monit is empty :(
[19:43] <amikrop> Doug_Edey: won't the 64bit Ubuntu work?
[19:43] <LunaVorax> How can my macbook pro can be way more hotter in ubuntu than under mac os :/
[19:43] <goldins> wyn: does not.
[19:43] <Alonea> has anyone gotten usb to work with virtual box? I uninstalled what I have and installed the Lucid one from their website. I added the usb filters for the devices I want to use, I checked the 2.0 thing. No dice. How do you get usb to work???
[19:43] <Doug_Edey> Young_Money, I only just retured a system with 128MB of RAM due to issues with the screen dying
[19:43] <wyn> gabrielcz:  NP , if we get told off switch to #plone.org
[19:43] <LunaVorax> It's really alarming, it gets really hot even if I force both cpu cores to be at half the speed
[19:43] <computerfreaker> Doug_Edey: not instantly. I can get to the Ubuntu menu, but as soon as I select an option everything hangs, then the system shuts down about 5 minutes later
[19:43] <goldins> wyn: at least, I had OO installed but not base
[19:43] <wyn> goldins: use administration - synaptic then search for open office
[19:43] <TheLimeRunner> Now it fails to boot. Looks like I'm retrying a minimal install again.
[19:43] <Young_Money> Doug_Edey, Right 128MB that is nuts
[19:43] <Doug_Edey> amikrop, yes and no, not all libraries are compiled for 64bit yet and I don't feel its worth the hassle to use chroot
[19:43] <LunaVorax> btw wyn as I though the tip you gave me doesn't work with my mac :/
[19:44] <computerfreaker> Young_Money: yeah, I know, but there's nothing I can really do about it right now.
[19:44] <Doug_Edey> computerfreaker, OK, could be other issues with the HW elsewhere
[19:44] <computerfreaker> Doug_Edey: wouldn't surprise me. This machine apparently has a long history of trouble.
[19:44] <Doug_Edey> Young_Money, depends on how you use it. I had it as a file server
[19:45] <amikrop> Doug_Edey: If I install the PAE kernel will the problems be solved? Is it difficult? Is there an official guide for Ubuntu?
[19:45] <Doug_Edey> computerfreaker, place on floor, put C4 on top, walk away quickly, detonate C4
[19:45] <Young_Money> computerfreaker, I tried to compile a Java program on a Windows machine with 512MB and Eclipse kept crashing on me
[19:45] <aeon-ltd> LunaVorax: dude, limiting cpu and running intensive programs is much worse than not lmiting it
[19:45] <Doug_Edey> amikrop, what problems?
[19:45] <wyn> LunaVorax: if you find another method would be intrested to hear about it
[19:45] <Doug_Edey> amikrop, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[19:46] <LunaVorax> aeon-ltd, if i was running intensive program i woudn't be complaining seriously
[19:46] <vock> I'm having trouble with Lucid: It currently freezes on boot. Already running it with noplymouth and nomodeset flags in grub and removed quiet and splash, it seems to crash just when gdm is about to start. Trying to start gdm from the command line gave me "Failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager"
[19:46] <amikrop> Doug_Edey: ok, thanks
[19:46] <Young_Money> Even little netbooks have 1GB RAM as standard anything less and you will be struggling on your pc
[19:46] <LunaVorax> sure wyn !
[19:46] <Jigal> hello my system (10.04) starts up every time in low graphics mode. What can i do about it
[19:47] <xiong> I'm not a shell warrior but I've been using bash for some time. I can't say I'm an enthusiastic command line user; I like the control/power/flexibility but I don't find the interface particularly usable. How do you remember all the commands, all their options? How do you manage typing long path names again and again?
[19:48] <mneptok> xiong: long pathnames are easily done with proper tab-complete
[19:48] <mneptok> xiong: and shell commands are no different from learning what icon to click where and what tab the setting is under
[19:49] <amokpaule> Hello, when i watch a video on youtube and when i dont use keyboard or mouse ubun tu switches back to the login screen, can i turn that off?
[19:49] <Wintemute_> Any one here familiar with the default mounts on ubuntu???
[19:49] <Wintemute_> No one?
[19:50] <xiong> mneptok, Sorry but I don't think our perspectives are going to meet in the middle. No offense.
[19:50] <vock> is it easy to reinstall gdm from failsafeX?
[19:50] <wastl> Wintemute_: what do you mean with "default mounts"?
[19:50] <Wintemute_> I just want to know which process mount this none on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
[19:50] <Wintemute_> "none on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)"
[19:50] <Wintemute_> init?
[19:50] <Young_Money> Wintemute_, When you dual boot with Windows and Ubuntu Linux-Linux stuffs everything into / root
[19:51] <xiong> Is anyone aware of more friendly shells; or tools that assist with command line work?
[19:51] <Wintemute_> and if I can configure it's opitions
[19:51] <Wintemute_> ???
[19:51] <Wintemute_> dual boot?
[19:51] <_DGM_> xiong: what exactly do you mean with that?
[19:51] <nndev> hi all, How do I set up in ubuntu so that by default all compilers will run on 4 processors instead of just 1
[19:51] <_DGM_> xiong: tab is your friend
[19:51] <Wintemute_> Why I would do that????
[19:51] <Young_Money> Wintemute_, are you on a dual boot Windows and Ubuntu Linux
[19:51] <itsux2bu> why does a 32-bit ubuntu desktop from ubuntu.com take 1.5 hours.. but a torrent under 10 minutes?
[19:51] <Wintemute_> Noo
[19:51] <Wintemute_> ubuntu server
[19:51] <xiong> _DGM_, Well, not to be obtuse but if I were exactly sure what I wanted, I'd probably have it already. :)
[19:51] <wastl> hm maybe the kernel or init.../var/run is used to store lockfiles, sockets and pid files
[19:52] <_DGM_> itsux2bu: pick a different mirror
[19:52] <Jordan_U> xiong: There are many options, with all of them their value is very subjective.
[19:52] <wastl> so better don't play around with it or some service will refuse to work
[19:52] <Wintemute_> Which process mout the /dev for example?
[19:52] <Wintemute_> or this: none on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)
[19:52] <itsux2bu> 7 mins 40 secs.. done.. torrents wins by hours..
[19:52] <wastl> Wintemute_,  either kernel (if using devfs) or udevbv
[19:52] <Wintemute_> Is the init process?
[19:53] <Wintemute_> Can I change it's options?
[19:53] <_DGM_> itsux2bu: not for me really. I download with 6 mb/s from the (dutch) ubuntu mirrors.. my torrents wont even come close to that
[19:53] <Wintemute_> put noexec for example?
[19:53] <Wintemute_> or mount as ro
[19:53] <din> so i have this usb disk that i keep getting 'sd 11:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device' with.
[19:53] <Wintemute_> Or should I do a script for it?
[19:54] <din> the drive works on other OS's
[19:54] <wastl> why do you want to change options on system mounts?
[19:54] <din> any ideas?
[19:54] <xiong> _DGM_, Let me try a specific example, bearing in mind that I'm asking a larger question: -- I often find it useful to "dry run" a command but the option to do so is different in various commands (--dry-run, -n, ...) and I want verbose output with this, too, of course. What's a quick way to turn the current command from "verbose dry run" to "verbose really do it" to "quiet really do it"?
 Security :P
[19:54] <Wintemute_> avoid file injection and execution
[19:54] <dschuett> would anyone be kind enough to have a pm convo with me to help me understand what I need to add to my iptables firewall to allow traffice to get routed out of my eht0(external/internel) interface -- i am trying to get use ubuntu server 10.04 as my router/firewall
[19:55] <avis> can you use audible.com audiobooks on fedora 13 ?
[19:55] <erUSUL> !ics | dschuett
[19:55] <Pici> avis: #fedora knows.
[19:55] <erUSUL> avis: ask in #fedora
[19:55] <Wintemute_> No sense to have a mount point with both... rw and exec...
[19:56] <dschuett> I have looked at ICS in the ubuntu forums, but it doesn't explain the firewall part of it very well...
[19:56] <Alonea> anyone know how to get usb to work with Virtual Box in Lucid? I installed the guest additions, added my user to the vbox group thing, I added my usb devices to the filter list, and I checked the USB 2.0 box. what else do I need to do? Using latest VirtualBox for lucid from their website
[19:56] <dschuett> any help is appreciated
[19:56] <wastl> well if /dev is mounted ro the system cannot create any device nodes...which it has to if you connect e.g. some usb drive
[19:56] <Wintemute_> Is a server...
[19:57] <Wintemute_> no drivers
[19:57] <_DGM_> every system has drivers...
[19:57] <_DGM_> even if they're generic.. they're still drivers
[19:57] <Wintemute_> no
[19:57] <wastl> Alonea: hm i updated my virtualbox to the latest one from the virtualbox website for lucid and usb worked out of the box
[19:57]  * _DGM_ slaps Wintemute_
[19:57] <_DGM_> yes.
[19:57] <Wintemute_> Hmm...
[19:57] <wastl> no need to manually start hald or such crap like before
[19:57] <Wintemute_> no
[19:57] <erUSUL> Wintemute_: root has to be exec a rw so you can run ( exec) the programs you install ( r-Writting them )
[19:57] <Jordan_U> xiong: Unfortunatly I think there is no better answer than to look at a man page / cheat sheet for the correct options (using up arrow to edit a previously run command).
[19:58] <Alonea> wastl: :(...I see my devices on the list at the bottom, but they are all greyed out
[19:58] <Wintemute_> Why should I install things on a production box????
[19:58] <Wintemute_> or...
[19:58] <Wintemute_> use the usb???
[19:58] <Wintemute_> Is a server guys... pre-built
[19:58] <_DGM_> build your own kernel...
[19:58] <_DGM_> remove the crap you dont want
[19:58] <Wintemute_> ¬¬
[19:59] <xiong> Jordan_U, I've made much use of man pages. I like the bash memory well enough that I have dozens of Terminal windows open with several tabs each.
[19:59] <Wintemute_> only to remount as ro???
[19:59] <wastl> a server....then you better go to #ubuntu-server dude ;)
[19:59] <Wintemute_> Wa!
 Thanks!!! :)
[19:59] <Scunizi> for some reason CUPS is not starting on boot all of a sudden
[20:00] <xiong> I don't find tab completion particularly helpful.
[20:01] <jeiworth__> o_O
[20:01] <ximal> Hey guys ... I just installed 10.04 and enabled my video restriced drivers and then I get a blank screen upon login with my hd screen saying no signal
[20:01] <ximal> Hey guys ... I just installed 10.04 and enabled my video restriced drivers and then I get a blank screen upon login with my hd screen saying no signal , is there any way to fix this ?
[20:01] <Alonea> wastl: like, did you do anything special to get usb to work? maybe I need to restart instead of logging and and out after I added my user the the vbox user group thing
[20:01] <ximal> And I keep getting Buffer I/O Errors on device fd0
[20:02] <bencc> I'm trying to edit a csv with openoffice but ubuntu tells me it is locked for editing by root. I restarted but getting same message. How can I remove the lock?
[20:02] <ZykoticK9> Scunizi, i've noticed several people having the same issue - sorry i have no ideas however
[20:02] <xiong> Closely related in my mind (though the connection may not be apparent) is an issue about the way files and folders are stored in a filesystem. For each file there is data and a small amount of metadata. Is there any way to add *more* metadata to a file|folder, either free-form or structured, either by hand or under program control?
[20:02] <wastl> Alonea this was a known vbox issue in lucid...maybe you try to start hald manually before starting virtualbox
[20:02] <Scunizi> bencc: save the file first as an openoffice doc then reopen. .you'll be able to edit
[20:02] <Alonea> wastl: tried that as welll
[20:03] <Alonea> wastl: I am going to try rebooting...
[20:03] <wastl> Alonea: did you try both as root?
[20:03] <Scunizi> ZykoticK9: first samba bugs... now cups.. arg..
[20:03] <robertzaccour> should i have my hard disk to spin down? does it matter?
[20:03] <Alonea> wastl: I did sudo hald, however sudo VirtualBox doesn't load it...just sits
[20:04] <ZykoticK9> Alonea, don't use "sudo VirtualBox" use gksu if you MUST - but i'd recommend against running vbox as root.
[20:04] <bencc> Scunizi: thanks. trying
[20:04] <dendrite> could anyone recommend a channel where i could ask about proxies?
[20:04]  * MichealH seconds ZykoticK9
[20:05] <_DGM_> theres no need to run any program like that as root
[20:05] <xiong> Are there *any* tools that make working with the command line or filesystem more "friendly"?
[20:05] <christian_lappy> dendrite: google for squid
[20:06] <xiong> I don't say, yet more *powerful* tools.
[20:06] <christian_lappy> dendrite: best gpl web por´roxy out there
[20:06] <christian_lappy> imho
[20:06] <Scunizi> xiong: screen is one.. there are also cli based file managers.
[20:06] <smw> xiong, what type of work with the filesystem?
[20:06] <dendrite> what about a proxy to use for everything, mail, chat, etc
[20:06] <Scunizi> xiong: nano for text editing.. mutt for email .. elinks, w3m and others for browing the net
[20:06] <xiong> Scunizi, Searching for 'screen' might take me awhile. Could you disambiguate?
[20:07] <Scunizi> !screen | xiong
[20:07] <christian_lappy> dendrite: don't know such a programm
[20:07]  * _ng discovers christian_lappy's picture at uglypeople.com
[20:07] <xiong> Thank you Scunizi++
[20:07] <smw> xiong, I am not sure how screen makes things easier. It is very useful though
[20:07] <xiong> smw, I would like to add and make use of metadata.
[20:07] <smw> xiong, never used it, but this might help. http://www.midnight-commander.org/
[20:07] <robertzaccour> should i have my hard disk to spin down? does it matter?
[20:07] <Scunizi> xiong: np :) .. once you get use to it screen is invaluable.  It saves opening several tty's
[20:08] <smw> xiong, ok
[20:08] <Scunizi> xiong: irssi for irc :)
[20:08] <christian_lappy> _ng: ha ?
[20:08] <dendrite> ok here's an ubuntu question. how about compositing? i have the latest nvidia installed and removed all compiz, but i still would like compositing
[20:08] <Alonea> ZykoticK9: I don't want to use it as root. I just want usb to work!
[20:08] <dendrite> system>preferences>appearance>effects does nothing. has no options available to click
[20:09] <_ng> christian_lappy sorry :p
[20:09] <Pici> Alonea: The version of vbox that is in the Ubuntu repositories does not have USB support. You need to use the one from vbox's website for that.
[20:09] <ZykoticK9> Alonea, sorry i don't have any suggestions for that.  Best of luck.
[20:09] <Alonea> ZykoticK9: I am using the one from their website...
[20:09] <xangua> dendrite: enable metacity composite: gconf-editor > /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager
[20:09] <Pici> Alonea: Then ask in #vbox
[20:09] <ZykoticK9> Alonea, i hope so - as it's the one that supports USB ;)
[20:09] <dendrite> ok i'll try that
[20:09] <Alonea> Pici: trying to...but no luck there
[20:10] <dendrite> it's already clicked
[20:10] <dendrite> terminal still wont show proper transparency
[20:10] <xiong> smw, I hope it comes clear, the connection between file metadata and command line friendliness. I might tag several files 'foo', then supply '-tag=foo' instead of a shell path with wildcards.
[20:10] <smw> xiong, I have never worked with file metadata
[20:11] <xangua> dendrite: then install compiz again
[20:11] <smw> xiong, part of the issue is everyone has come up with a system of adding metadata
[20:11] <xangua> metacity compositing is only for basic shadows dendrite
[20:11] <xiong> smw, Well, aside from the native metadata -- mtime and so forth -- I have seen nothing.
[20:11] <Jigal> hello my system (10.04) starts up every time in low graphics mode. What can i do about it
[20:11] <smw> xiong, exactly
[20:12] <dendrite> o ok
[20:12] <dendrite> thx xangua
[20:12] <smw> xiong, are you using a special filesystem that has support for metadata?
[20:12] <xiong> smw, I'm not.
[20:12] <guntbert> Alonea: when did you ask in #vbox?
[20:12] <Alonea> guntbert: a few minutes ago
[20:12] <smw> xiong, then how does it work? I did not think extx did that
[20:13] <guntbert> Alonea: try again
[20:13] <Taravel> can I open a terminal with a alternate cd ?
[20:13] <xangua> starg by giving more details Jigal
[20:13] <xiong> smw, I'm looking for solutions. I don't know what they are.
[20:13] <itsux2bu> why doesn't ubuntu.com go to dvd .iso and just ask the user which version to install.. ?
[20:13] <wastl> vbox btw also has some woes with ext4
[20:13] <minimec> Jigal: Are you able to install some drivers in <system <administration <Hardware Drivers?
[20:13] <Jigal> minimec, which drivers do i need to install?
[20:14] <Jigal> xangua, which details you want
[20:14] <Alonea> guntbert: and I just got it to work...why is it when applications say to log out and back in after doing something, it never works? I added myself to the user group for vbox, logged out, logged in. No usb. I reboot. I get usb
[20:14] <ximal> I'm on a fresh boot and I am in the cli and cannot get sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade to work because I get an error that it is locked and in use ... What is the manual override command to undo or ignore the lock please ?
[20:14] <minimec> Jigal: If there are some drivers for your GPU you will see that...
[20:14] <smw> xiong, in that case step back. I believe you first need to use a different fs that supports metadata
[20:14] <xiong> smw, There are dozens, maybe hundreds of shell commands. I limit this to stuff intended for the command line that does a certain thing and exits; I draw the line at plain invocation of a interactive application.
[20:15] <guntbert> Alonea: strange, but nice that it works now :-)
[20:15] <n0body> any suggestions on a extreme small web browser for small laptops? I find all the firefox alike take too much space, with all the toolbars covering 1/4 of the screen
[20:15] <smw> xiong, what are you talking about?
[20:15] <Alonea> guntbert: heh. but seriously. over the years on all apps that said all you needed to do was log out and back in. not once has it worked....^^;
[20:15] <minimec> n0body: midori maybe
[20:15] <Jordan_U> n0body: chrome(ium)
[20:15] <n0body> ok guys I'll try
[20:16] <xiong> smw, Um, what kind of explanation should I make? I just said that there are a large number of shell commands.
[20:16] <smw> n0body, firefox can be made smaller
[20:16] <smw> n0body, I use it on my netbook
[20:16] <n0body> smw, how?
[20:16] <guntbert> Alonea: here it has, but nvm :-)
[20:16] <smw> n0body, get the "classic compact" theme
[20:16] <Jigal> minimec, no proprieatry drivers are in ise on this system , is the message i get when going to hardware drivers
[20:16] <tchebb> n0body: +1 for chrome(ium), but I found the privacy controls a bit shallow.
[20:16] <smw> n0body, next disable the bookmarks bar
[20:17] <n0body> smw, okay thanks
[20:17] <xiong> smw, Where did I get confusing?
[20:17] <smw> n0body, then there is an extension to get rid of the file bar and place it on the address bar area
[20:17] <minimec> Jigal: That means that your system is using the best possible solution. Can you give me the output of 'lspci |grep VGA' (on a console)?
[20:17] <emacs_noob> gnome-session in latest Lucid does NOT honor neither "/desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager" nor deprecated "/desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager" setting! Does anybody know a fix for this?
[20:18] <n0body> smw, good advice
[20:18] <smw> n0body, then get rid of the tab bar always being there (only show up when needed)
[20:18] <n0body> k
[20:18] <smw> n0body, I do this to my laptop too :-)
[20:18] <smw> n0body, this is years of making it smaller and smaller :-D
[20:18] <Jigal> http://pastebin.com/3gc9ZXG3
[20:19] <n0body> okey :)
[20:19] <Jordan_U> n0body: Have you heard of Ubuntu netbook remix?
[20:19] <smw> n0body, of course, now I only use chromium and use firefox on my netbook for its size
[20:20] <minimec> Jigal: OK. You have an intel GPU. That line you pasted could be a good starrt for bug tracking.
[20:20] <n0body> Jordan_U, yes, I should have installed that one..
[20:20] <smw> Jordan_U, I installed it after the fact. It is very easy to do
[20:20] <smw> n0body, , I installed it after the fact. It is very easy to do
[20:20] <minimec> Jigal: In your case you will probably be able to deactivate kms KErnelModeSettings at boot... Maybe that helps.
[20:21] <smw> n0body, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-netbook
[20:21] <minimec> Jigal: disable kms intel ubuntu
[20:21] <minimec> Jigal: http://www.google.ch/search?hl=de&source=hp&q=disable%20kms%20intel%20ubuntu&meta=&aq=f&oq=
[20:21] <n0body> smw, hmm, would that work??
[20:21] <n0body> ok
[20:22] <minimec> Jigal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting
[20:22] <smw> n0body, it takes affect when you restart
[20:22] <maxie> someone know about a software i can use 2 control the bass output so i don't tear down the whole house with the bass xD
[20:22] <hacked_kernel> I installed kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu and then I uninstalled it  but the splash image and cursor is for kubuntu how can I return the gnome stuff again?
[20:22] <n0body> neat, love linux  :)
[20:23] <smw> n0body, you can switch back and forth at login :-)
[20:23] <lahwran> hello everyone
[20:24] <dendrite> anyone here play eve online?
[20:24] <dendrite> with linux i mean :P
[20:24] <smw> Hi lahwran
[20:24] <smw> !ask | dendrite
[20:25] <dendrite> what. ubottu. i did ask a question. "does anyone play eve online"
[20:25] <smw> ubottu is a bot
[20:25] <dendrite> yea whatever. shows u right. dumb bot
[20:26] <dendrite> jk jk
[20:26] <tchebb> dendrite: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=2249
[20:26] <yondering> dendrite, I don't personally, but there are a lot who do.  Are you having trouble getting it to work, and have you checked the appdb page for help?
[20:26] <smw> dendrite, lol. Do you have an issue with eve?
[20:26] <tchebb> I haven't tried to run it myself.
[20:27] <dendrite> yea it works fine except for audio, but in ubuntu 10.04 i get sloow fps. i have the latest nvidia driver from their website, and wine 1.1.42, and installed directX via wine, and used to work before, but its slow and choppy
[20:27] <maxie> i have a more emergency questin  xD  someone know about a software i can use 2 control the bass output
[20:27] <lahwran> dendrite, if you're just socializing, see #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:27] <dendrite> no no. not socializing.  i need help with eve online
[20:27] <tchebb> dendrite: I've had so many audio issues with WINE. WinePulse fixed them all for me.
[20:27] <smw> dendrite, that is a question. Not, "does anyone play eve online" :-)
[20:28] <dendrite> technically they're both questions.  but one is a more 'techinal" question than the other
[20:28] <dendrite> but i understand
[20:29] <smw> dendrite, but technically the one I said was a real question is not a question :-P
[20:29] <jeiworth__> dendrite: might want to add winhq's repos and install the latest and greatest wine version 1.2
[20:29] <Viglite> dendrite: tchebb, asked and answered the question, looks like
[20:29] <smw> jeiworth__, they are up to wine 1.3
[20:29] <dendrite> viglite.  its not the audio that is the problem.  its just the slow fps
[20:29] <jeiworth__> that's still beta, or alpha even iirc
[20:30] <smw> jeiworth__, I don't think so
[20:30] <dendrite> and smw. lol you're right...u win
[20:30] <KomiaPoika> in gnome how do i save my terminals positions for next login??
[20:30] <Viglite> dendrite: Ahhh, many ways to help that, tweaking or hardware upgrade?
[20:30] <yondering> wine 1.2 (the lucid standard one) doesn't seem to require winepulse for me at least.
[20:30] <dendrite> ok i'll try wine repos. and look into winepulse
[20:31] <yondering> dendrite, side note.. you might get more help in #winehq if you haven't tried them yet.
[20:31] <dendrite> hardware is good. eve online worked fine with past ubuntu distributions, just for some reason i get slow fps here. im gonna try the winehq repos and see if wine pulse might help
[20:31] <dendrite> oki doki. thx yondering
[20:31] <duffydack> KomiaPoika, if you use compiz then use the Place Windows plugin
[20:32] <maxie> hmmm seems no answer to get here so i guess i just have 2 try again later-_-
[20:32] <jeiworth__> smw: by jolly, it's even available in the repo :D
[20:32] <smw> jeiworth__, I know my wines. But I guess that is offtopic
[20:33] <jeiworth__> ^^
[20:33] <jeiworth__> well, it's not _that_ offtopic
[20:34] <jeiworth__> we _are_ talking about the ubuntu package here ;)
[20:35] <smw> jeiworth__, yes, of course we are...
[20:35] <Jordan_U> smw: http://www.theworldwidewine.com/Wine_reviews/Weekly_cheap_wine_reviews/wine_lovers_bargain_review_saub.php
[20:35] <Pici> Can we at least *try* to stay ontopic here?
[20:36] <smw> Pici, it is not like anyone is asking questions
[20:36] <jeiworth__> smw: in the end we were both right though: This package is based on a recent Wine beta. ;)
[20:36] <khani3s> When I try to install the flash nonfree with apt-get i get: "Connecting to archive.canonical.com|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80... Timeout". I'm behind a proxy but wget and apt-get for others packages works fine. I'm using Ubuntu Server 10
[20:36] <tchebb> khani3s: What package?
[20:37] <wildeja> Hello and good evening to all. Hope that you've all had a good day :)
[20:37] <khani3s> tchebb: flashplugin-installer
[20:38] <jeiworth__> khani3s: can you ping archive.canonical.com ?
[20:38] <khani3s> jeiworth__: Yes
[20:39] <Viglite> I read the forums about e17, can I install that to save power and resources and do I have to add a PPA or is it in the Repositories  as a one shot clean migration?
[20:39] <wildeja> Question: Why dose my ubuntu(LL) keep presenting me with a dialog
[20:40] <wildeja> sorry, hit enter accident :)
[20:40] <minimec> Viglite: packages.enlightenment.org Take a deb sourceline available there and replace for example 'karmic' with 'lucid'. Packages are working. There is also a key available.
[20:40] <AegNuddel> Why can't more than one version of a piece of software be installed?
[20:40] <cdavis> I am using recordmydesktop and want to specify a --window id but dont' know how to get a list of current window ids?
[20:42] <arzhar> erm, guys
[20:42] <Viglite> minimec: Thank you, so I import the key, make install/apt-get, reboot and run it?
[20:42] <arzhar> why the hell doom3 says that 1008 MB System Memory
[20:42] <arzhar> 64 MB Video Memory
[20:42] <arzhar> Oo
[20:42] <smw> AegNuddel, because the software wants the same files?
[20:42] <arzhar> i dont have 64mb video
[20:42] <wildeja> Question: Why dose my Ubuntu(LL) keep presenting me with a dialogue that tells me my password dose not match the password on my keyring? Tanks
[20:42] <wildeja> thanks
[20:43] <smw> ok
[20:43] <smw> oops, wrong window
[20:43] <AegNuddel> WEll, I do not want to use the simultaneously.  It is that one version does one thing better and the other does another better
[20:44] <minimec> Viglite: If you have autologin set on on gdm, you will have to logout the session and then choose e17 as session. Remember! To have the network working run nm-applet. Also you may want to start gnome-settings-daemon. If you are lost, you can even start a gnome-panel with 'gnome-panel' ;)
[20:45] <m0ar> Hey, trying to help a friend running ubuntu to install ncmpcpp. However, his apt-get cannot find the package, can someone verify this very frightening problem?
[20:46] <fedtx> AegNuddel, if you want to use different versions a think u have to install a version in an other directory
[20:46] <Viglite> minimec: That makes sense, Thank you kindly.
[20:46] <VCoolio> Viglite: an alpha version of the core e packages has just been released; if you know how to compile stuff I'd do that; the deb packages are probably outdated (working, but lacking new features)
[20:47] <Viglite> VCoolio: That was an area where I was getting lost at, I am easily confused I guess.
[20:47] <tchebb>  m0ar: What version is your friend running?
[20:47] <VCoolio> Viglite: also to save resources don't run that daemon and use other stuff for settings like ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and lxappearance for gtk themes
[20:48] <coreyman> what is the command line option for configuring nvidia x server?
[20:48] <VCoolio> Viglite: no problem, try the repo then
[20:48] <m0ar> tchebb: Give me a minute
[20:48] <dendrite> holy smokes. updating to wine. 1.2 made everything perfect
[20:48] <dendrite> thx guys
[20:49] <Viglite> VCoolio.minimec: On it now, I thank you kindly for the assistance and help.
[20:49] <minimec> Viglite: np. I am on it too ;)
[20:50] <coreyman> what is the command line option for configuring nvidia x server?
[20:50] <ney> hello everyone, im trying to make a lock up profile here in ubuntu 10, using sabayon. Epiphany have all my network printers on its favorites, and i didnt manage to delete this links.. how do i remove them?
[20:50] <dendrite> coreyman. try sudo nvidia-xconfig
[20:51] <m0ar> tchebb: 9.04 apparently
[20:51] <coreyman> dendrite thanks
[20:51] <tchebb> m0ar: That package is only in the default repo on 9.10 and later.
[20:51] <dendrite> reboot. then go to system>preferences>nvidia xserver settings
[20:51] <VCoolio> coreyman: in these cases, use apropos, like 'apropos nvidia'
[20:51] <tchebb> I'll look for a repo he can add
[20:51] <m0ar> tchebb: Yeah, thanks a bunch
[20:52] <Viglite> minimec: Looks like is better to do the LiveCD install then add the repo, or will it do that voodoo that it does so well on an already installed Gnome Desktop?
[20:52] <Tweaky> hi. anyone know how to go about playing live music over internet or what software i should use? im not talking about playing files i mean real time streaming guitar etc
[20:52] <macdonalder> I need suggestions for troubleshooting methods of a particular problem... I have several machines, Intel D510MO-based, Micron eUSB 4GB flash drives, ubuntu server install, generic kernels, ext3 filesystems... I've written a script that goes around and ssh's into each, and periodically a box will stop responding, it will accept the connection, then drop it immediately. This happens with ssh, as well as a running instance of Tomcat.
[20:52] <coreyman> dendrite, vcoolio every time i try to save nvidia settings it says it can not open x config file for writng.
[20:53] <VCoolio> coreyman: run it with gksudo, it needs to write to xorg.conf and needs root privileges I guess
[20:53] <macdonalder> I don't know what the problem is... connections that are already established still work (snmp traps generated from the box still make it to me), but I can open any new ones from my end
[20:53] <m0ar> coreyman: sudo
[20:53] <tchebb> m0ar: A quick search turns up this: https://launchpad.net/~aguignard/+archive/ppa
[20:53] <m0ar> yeah, as said
[20:53] <Viglite> Tweaky: Rythmbox plays streaming, is nice.
[20:53] <coreyman> vcoolio oh i was using sudo... also @ m0ar
[20:53] <ney> is there a text based editor for epiphany bookmarks? i got all my network printers in it, and cant remove
[20:53] <rotham> !dualboot rotham
[20:53] <emacs_noob> does anybody know how to change default window manager in 10.04? nothing seems to work! gconf'ing required_components/windowmanager is not being honored, metacity gets loaded even before user logs in... it's a nightmare
[20:54] <m0ar> emacs_noob: Welcome to ubuntu!
[20:54] <minimec> Viglite: Are you talking about the new compiz like morph features? That's a unofficial trunk... They are available by installing e17-morph or so...
[20:54] <AegNuddel> fedtx, how do you install to a different directory?
[20:54] <minimec> Viglite: Never tested this.
[20:54] <jahid> i have a NAS running with raid1, is it possible to install ubuntu on nas? my laptop running windows xp, and i dont want to overload it by installing ubuntu there. but want to install ubuntu on nas. any link or tutorial will be highly appreciated
[20:54] <emacs_noob> m0ar: very quaint
[20:54] <coreyman> m0ar, Vcoolio, still unable to write
[20:55] <m0ar> emacs_noob: I'm completely serious.
[20:55] <wildeja> Why dose my Ubuntu(LL) keep presenting me with a dialogue that tells me my password dose not match the password on my keyring? Thank you
[20:55] <VCoolio> Viglite: ecomorph is nice, but e17 has it's own composite module which is getting better too
[20:55] <seon> have you installed a glassfish app server with ubuntu lucid and the synaptic manager
[20:55] <robertzaccour> should i have my hard disk to spin down? does it matter?
[20:55] <VCoolio> coreyman: is there a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[20:56] <Tweaky> VigLite: I mean to actually stream live performace audio myself
[20:56] <coreyman> vcoolio i sure hope so, or i wouldn't be here now.... and yes there is
[20:56] <Viglite> minimec: I was looking at the Forums, looks like most ran it LiveCD and selected it, I will try it on Gnome first, like VCoolio said, log in and check Watts/Amps, CPU /MEM, if no go then I will do the LiveCD method.
[20:57] <emacs_noob> m0ar: guess you're serious about welcoming me... thanks! but i interpreted your response as "ubuntu doesn't allow changing WM"
[20:57] <Jinxed-> what is a kernal source tree?
[20:57] <Viglite> Tweaky: Oh, ok, there are many or a few packages for that, are you on a Server?
[20:57] <minimec> Viglite: I rather use e17 on a dual screen setup, as it gives you two inipendent Desktops...
[20:57] <m0ar> emacs_noob: Feel welcomed, but I was actually referring to the latter
[20:57] <gary_inNYC> is there a way to sync tasks with Ubuntu One?
[20:57] <m0ar> emacs_noob: It's an insane process, I hated it when I were running ubuntu
[20:58] <abhijit> gary_inNYC, ask in #ubuntuone
[20:58] <wildeja> I've posted a question, but no one has even said hello, I am a noob so am i doing something wrong?
[20:58] <ejv> Jinxed-: when you download the kernel sources in a tarball, unpack it, it builds the source dependency tree; typically the symbolic link is /usr/src/linux to the currently selected sources
[20:58] <Viglite> minimec: I solved or figured that out  using a BSD then on Debian then Ubuntu, is fun learning that stuff.
[20:58] <emacs_noob> m0ar: yeah... insane it is.
[20:59] <VCoolio> wildeja: hi; if someone knows, he'll reply; else, wait some minutes and ask again
[20:59] <m0ar> emacs_noob: Don
[20:59] <m0ar> emacs_noob: Dont want to recommend it to someone new, but you _could_ purge metacity completely
[20:59] <Jinxed-> ejv, I need to point to it to use a makefile for some drivers for ubuntu desktop 10.04... do you know where it is?
[20:59] <minimec> Viglite: it definitly is...
[20:59] <m0ar> emacs_noob: And hurl in something good, like awesome
[21:00] <abhijit> bye.
[21:00] <Viglite> back in a few, Thank you all kindly.
[21:00] <ejv> Jinxed-: i have no idea what you just said, sorry dude lmao
[21:00] <bilalakhtar> m0ar: compiz wraps metacity, so one shouldn't purge it, as long as he/she is running GNOME
[21:00] <emacs_noob> m0ar: unfortunately it's not possible to get rid of metacity, since gdm obviously depends on it for decoration, all i'm trying to do is to run my preferred StumpWM...
[21:01] <m0ar> Ah, carp
[21:01] <robertzaccour> should i have my hard disk to spin down? does it matter?
[21:01] <m0ar> robertzaccour: Energy saving, annoying. I keep mine spinning
[21:01] <bilalakhtar> !metacity | m0ar
[21:02] <m0ar> bilalakhtar: No thank you, I say
[21:02] <Jinxed-> ejv, in a readme file it says KERNELDIR: Defines where the complier mayt find your (well configured ) kernel source tree... then i am supose to do make VIDEO_MEM_BLOCKS=3072 KERNELDIR=/something/something/something
[21:02] <robertzaccour> m0ar, thanks. man. i was starting to wonder if any of the hundreds of people here knew after an hour of no responses lol thanks
[21:02] <quentusrex> Anyone know how to purge a manual install of vlc, and install the packaged version?
[21:02] <m0ar> robertzaccour: Np man
[21:03] <m0ar> robertzaccour: Actually, if you keep your PC on 24/7 it only makes the disk take more damage, even if it's extremely minor
[21:03] <m0ar> robertzaccour: The art of slowing down and speeding up is often more grueling than to keep it at the correct RPM
[21:03] <robertzaccour> m0ar, so its better to leave my computer on and not turn it off?
[21:03] <VCoolio> quentusrex: depends on how you manually installed; if with 'make install' go into the source folder and do 'sudo make uninstall'
[21:04] <jimmy51_> my device notifier is acting up. it's still listing some stuff that is no longer connected and isn't listing newly plugged in USB stuff. how can i have it re-detect?
[21:04] <m0ar> robertzaccour: Depends, if you don't have any reason to keep it on you should turn it off :)
[21:04] <jimmy51_> ( i could reboot, but i have VM's running i don't want to stop)
[21:04] <quentusrex> thanks VCoolio I didn't know about make uninstall
[21:04] <m0ar> robertzaccour: But torrents/folding/important stuff may keep it on for me
[21:04] <VCoolio> quentusrex: it's not always possible, depends on if the writers added those rules; they should
[21:05] <wildeja> VCoolio, "He'll"? lol
[21:05] <emacs_noob> well... gnome-session depends on metacity, so is gdm.... insanity, real insanity
[21:05] <m0ar> emacs_noob: Hurl gnome+everything into the bin, run your WM without a DE and run SLIM as log-in manager if you want that :)
[21:05] <quentusrex> VCoolio, luckily vlc dev's did add those rules.
[21:06] <m0ar> emacs_noob: But if you choose to do so; why are you running ubuntu? :)
[21:06] <Jinxed-> how much would it cost to have someone update a driver for a pc 104 mpeg video encoder that used to work with the 2.6.12 kernal to get it to work for 2.6.32 and more imporantantly how long
[21:06] <wildeja> Why dose my Ubuntu(LL) keep presenting me with a dialogue that tells me my password dose not match the password on my keyring? Thank you
[21:07] <m0ar> tchebb: How's it going?
[21:07] <emacs_noob> m0ar: i do like gnome for dbus stuff
[21:07] <tchebb> m0ar: I sent you a PPA link a while ago
[21:07] <m0ar> tchebb: Really? :s
[21:07] <tchebb> m0ar: Do you want me to paste it again?
[21:08] <m0ar> tchebb: Nono, saw it now. Didn't hilight for some reason.. Cheers man!
[21:09] <tchebb> m0ar: I hope it works. for your friend.
[21:09] <m0ar> emacs_noob: Explain why?
[21:10] <wildeja> Thank you for all the help guys :)
[21:10] <Tweaky> VigLite: I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 LT 64
[21:11] <Canadianwriter> I have a wifi problem. When I ran the live cd it let me install the wifi driver from the cd. but now that I installed ubuntu it wants to install the driver via the internet. How do I set it to install via the CD like it did when it was a live cd? I dont have access to a wired connection
[21:12] <guntbert> !nickspam > ThomasB2k
[21:12] <ThomasB2k> i forgot i was in here <_<
[21:12] <ThomasB2k> sorry
[21:12] <Canadianwriter> Im in software sources now and it says to install from cd or dvd insert it... well its inserted and it still wants to use the net
[21:13] <m0ar> emacs_noob: Are you still here? :)
[21:16] <Quintin> my scanner is listed as supported at SANE website, and it is detected when I do sane-find-scanner, but I can't do scanimage -L or scan with sane, says I have no devices
[21:17] <yggdrasil> i have a second hard drive in my box, sdb and i always have to go place > sdb1 to mount it, is there a gui method of making this mount with permissions for everyone automatically?
[21:17] <coreyman> When I run 'sudo nvidia-settings' and try to save to file it says it can not write to the file no matter what file I try to write to. I tried to make a clean xorg.conf in my home directory with only the device block and I still get this error that it can't write to the file. Can someone help me?
[21:18] <Quintin> yggdrasil: yggdrasil edit /etc/fstab
[21:18] <Tweaky> anyone know how to stream live audo in ubuntu? not listen to but rather broadcast from audio input
[21:19] <yggdrasil> Quintin: im just wondering if theres a gui method of that
[21:19] <Quintin> Tweaky: ustream.tv ?
[21:19] <yggdrasil> there should be.
[21:19] <dataviruset> Tweaky: something like SHOUTcast?
[21:19] <Quintin> yggdrasil: no idea.  dont' care.  yes, there probably should be.  :)
[21:19] <Tweaky> basically i want to be able to play guitar live over the net
[21:19] <Quintin> Tweaky: ustream.tv then
[21:20] <emacs_noob> m0ar: yeah, still here
[21:20] <Quintin> yggdrasil: I had to think for like a minute what file had mountpoints.  :\
[21:20] <emacs_noob> m0ar: dbus is needed for an app i'm working on
[21:20] <Tweaky> no video though just audio
[21:20] <emacs_noob> m0ar: plus it's the only indirect way to communicate with bluetooth devices
[21:20] <m0ar> emacs_noob: Well, then I understand :)
[21:20] <razass> can I uncompress a *.tgz file into another directory in the terminal?
[21:21] <Makdaam> hello
[21:21] <yggdrasil> Quintin: i didnt but i hate goign i nthere, and then i always get confused about permeissions
[21:21] <dreamer000> Tweaky: just pulseaudio which will be taken over a server with maybe just PHP? Will that work?
[21:21] <emacs_noob> m0ar: i had a choice, to either use blueZ directly from within my app or to use dbus, i chose the latter
[21:22] <Quintin> yggdrasil: confused about permissions in what regard?
[21:22] <yggdrasil> im gonna try psydm
[21:23] <yggdrasil> well one can generally only give permissions to one user, and then it almost always end up so that only root can write to it.
[21:23] <Tweaky> dreamer000: hmm im not sure. just want to broadcast audio only i suppose. not sure how to do that. live audio broadcast from PC input
[21:24] <dreamer000> pulseaudio as a local server
[21:24] <dreamer000> if bandwidth enough, then just dynDNS?
[21:25] <guntbert> yggdrasil: every file is owned by a group and every memebr of that group gets its permissions
[21:25] <Tweaky> dreamer000 dynDNS?
[21:26] <dreamer000> http://www.dyndns.com/
[21:26] <yggdrasil> guntbert: thanks
[21:26] <ejv> Jinxed-: what are you trying to compile?
[21:26] <ejv> Jinxed-: your kernel source tree will be under... /usr/src
[21:26] <Makdaam> pulseaudio is not a good solution for general audio broadcasting
[21:27] <Makdaam> it's uncompressed
[21:27] <guntbert> yggdrasil: no problem :)
[21:27] <dreamer000> so maybe compress a stream on the fly?
[21:27] <dataviruset> may I steal more IP adresses to my server by simply adding more "auto" lines in my /etc/network/interfaces file? (i've got 1 NIC)
[21:28] <erUSUL> dataviruset: no you add "virtual" ifaces. eth0:1 eth0:2 etc ... one interface can only have one ip
[21:28] <ramvi> How do I aptitude remove everything but ubuntu-minimal ?
[21:29] <ramvi> something like grep -v which does the opposite of the regular
[21:29] <dataviruset> erUSUL: can't i just add "auto eth1" and "iface eth1 inet dhcp"? :p
[21:30] <minimec> Tweaky: I would rather think in the direction of icecast http://www.boutell.com/newfaq/creating/broadcastlive.html
[21:30] <ejv> Jinxed-: ls -lha /usr/src/ | grep "linux-headers"
[21:30] <erUSUL> dataviruset: you can add "auto eth0:1" and "iface eth0:1 inet dhcp" ; is really that such a difference for you ?
[21:30] <TimeRider> darn ubuntu.... been having a lot of issues with a virtual machine since updating to 10.04-1
[21:30] <Jordan_U> erUSUL: Isn't that notation used for vlans though? You can have a nic listening for multiple IP addresses without vlans, though whether you *should* is another question :)
[21:31] <TimeRider> ureadahead, fsck, then hangs till it dumps loadsa errors... anyone else seeing similar? not sure if it's only when mounting an ext3 drive
[21:31] <Scunizi> TimeRider: virtualbox?
[21:31] <TimeRider> qemu
[21:31] <Scunizi> ah
[21:31] <erUSUL> Jordan_U: i do not know of a way with idconfig to assing more than one ip to a single iface ( eth0 )
[21:31] <dataviruset> erUSUL: okay, so it's only names? :)
[21:32] <swaj> When trying to enable protocol 41 in ufw, I get Unsupported protocol '41' -- does anyone know how to enable proto 41 with ufw?
[21:32] <TimeRider> all has been fine, just installed it a few days ago, then update and bang.... seems more3 stable since I took out smartmontools, but not sure...
[21:32] <dataviruset> erUSUL: that's not what i wanted to do, i wanted to have more interfaces (more IP adresses), but with just one NIC
[21:32] <erUSUL> dataviruset: and that's exactly what you got
[21:32] <TimeRider> data: eth0:1 eth0:2
[21:32] <guntbert> dataviruset: virtual interfaces still share one real interface
[21:33] <dataviruset> nice
[21:33] <erUSUL> dataviruset: a single nic with ultiple ifaces each one with one ip
[21:33] <swaj> I had to manually set a rule (iptables -A INPUT -p 41 -j ACCEPT) to get protocol 41 working, but I'd really prefer to do this with ufw if possible.  any ideas?
[21:33] <dataviruset> erUSUL: thanks :)
[21:34] <dataviruset> and thanks to you other guys too :D
[21:35] <murlidhar> how can i change the tty resolution ?
[21:36] <Jordan_U> erUSUL: It looks like adding multiple ips to an interface does create eth0:0, eth0:1 etc.
[21:36] <erUSUL> Jordan_U: that's my understanding of the things.... maybe the "ip" command can make more creative names i dunno
[21:37] <PyjamaSpank> can I move a HDD EXT4 with data (not my install drive) to another Ubuntu install?
[21:38] <Jinxed-> ejv, Im trying to compile this: http://www.eurotech.com/en/download/CTR-1475
[21:38] <switch10_> PyjamaSpank: sure, use rsync
[21:38] <yfk> what's an easy way to setup my graphic driver given that my GUI doesen't run?
[21:38] <Vespero> Does anyone know how to fix Overscanning in 10.04? I just switched to a new monitor, spent an entire day working to get 1024x768 and I've got the edges cut off.
[21:38] <dataviruset> switch10_: why not just move it and remount?
[21:38] <AegNuddel> grr
[21:39] <kkerwin> Hi. I'm wanting to setup a samba server from my lucid computer at home, and connect a client to it from my windows machine at school (I'm a teacher). Obviously, there are security concerns because my traffic is going over the public internet. Does Samba have any sort of standard encryption? Is it any good?
[21:39] <AegNuddel> no linux version of unity web player
[21:39] <switch10_> dataviruset: thats the idea.  move it with rsync.
[21:39] <ikonia> kkerwin: mapping a samba share over the internet will not perform well
[21:40] <kkerwin> ikonia: Any other suggestions for mapping a file share on a linux server over the internet?
[21:40] <dataviruset> PyjamaSpank: is it a physical hard drive you want to move? O.o
[21:40] <laclasse> kkerwin, as ikonia said, also, use openvpn to secure it.
[21:40] <yfk> kkerwin use dropbox or something
[21:40] <kkerwin> yfk: Can dropbox be mounted?
[21:40] <ikonia> kkerwin: common practice is to use things like ftp, scp, http even, but samba as a technology over the internet isn't a good concept
[21:41] <tschundeee> anyone knows how this guy did this: http://th06.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2010/121/2/1/My_Ubuntu_10_04_LTS_Lucid_Lynx_by_leonardomdq.png ?? I mean the top bar where the menu items are listed like in osx and not like usual in every window (File Save Help etc...)
[21:41] <ney> can anybody help me? i got some bookmarks on epiphany that i cant remove. Tryed looking for some text on /usr/share but no success.
[21:41] <kkerwin> ikonia: Can FTP servers be mapped as a windows drive?
[21:41] <ikonia> kkerwin: actually I think they can, ask in ##windows
[21:41] <jahid> i have a NAS running with raid1, is it possible to install ubuntu on nas? my laptop running windows xp, and i dont want to overload it by installing ubuntu there. but want to install ubuntu on nas. any link or tutorial will be highly appreciated
[21:41] <ikonia> kkerwin: I'm not %100 sure
[21:41] <ViN86> kkerwin: yes
[21:42] <xangua> tschundeee: http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/
[21:42] <kkerwin> ikonia, ViN86: Thank you.
[21:42] <ikonia> jahid: you can install it on whatever disk you want
[21:42] <PyjamaSpank> switch10/dataviruset: it's a physical drive, I'm just worried in case I lose the content. My motherboard won't load the OS drive so I just want to plug the data drives (sdb and sdc) to another Ubuntu install. I appreciate I may need to mount them but I've never used rsync
[21:42] <kkerwin> ViN86: Do you have a link to a howto, please?
[21:42] <Tweaky> tschundee: you mean the bottom bar?
[21:42] <jahid> ikonia, on that situation, where will be the boot menu?
[21:42] <tschundeee> I mean the top bar
[21:42] <kkerwin> ViN86: I need to use only software that comes with XP Professional.
[21:42] <tschundeee> not the dock
[21:42] <kkerwin> ViN86: No third party, please.
[21:42] <ikonia> jahid: what has the disk got to do with a boot menu ?
[21:42] <jahid> ikonia, will it change my laptop's boot menu?
[21:42] <minimec> tschundeee: That looks like avant-window-navigator
[21:43] <ikonia> jahid: how ?
[21:43] <jahid> ikonia, it has nothing to do with boot menu, but asking to know
[21:43] <ViN86> kkerwin: one sec, im lookin, im not sure if it will show up as a letter, which i know is what you need
[21:43] <ViN86> one sec
[21:43] <switch10_> PyjamaSpank: you will be fine then.  I thought you were moving data
[21:43] <jahid> ikonia, if not, then how i boot my ubuntu which is installed on NAS?
[21:43] <kkerwin> ViN86: Thanks for your help.
[21:43] <ikonia> jahid: as long as the disk is visible to the machine (not OS - machine) then there will be no issue
[21:44] <dataviruset> PyjamaSpank: i'm not sure what rsync is, so i'm afraid I can't answer that question. but i would unplug, plug and mount :)
[21:44] <jahid> ikonia, when installing, i can select the NAS drive, but how do i boot that installation?
[21:44] <ney> can anybody help me? i got some bookmarks on epiphany that i cant remove. Tryed looking for some text on /usr/share but no success. is there a file where the bookmarks are stores? where does epiphany gets this automatic bookmarks?
[21:44] <PyjamaSpank> switch10/dataviruset: thanks
[21:45] <ViN86> kkerwin: youre on XP?
[21:45] <ikonia> jahid: your boot disk will need to have grub on the mbr, and you will need to make sure the NAS is ALWAYS attatched to be able to boot either OS on your laptop
[21:45] <tschundeee> I mean the TOP BAR => got it its called global menu: http://code.google.com/p/gnome2-globalmenu/
[21:45] <LorgonJortle> Hi!
[21:45] <ikonia> jahid: grub NEEDS the linux file system to be present to boot
[21:45] <ikonia> jahid: as in needs it to boot windows or linux
[21:45] <kkerwin> ViN86: Client#1 is XP Pro. Client#2 is Linux.
[21:45] <ViN86> kkerwin: and ftp server is on linux machine?
[21:46] <switch10_> ikonia: I hope your NAS has got some serious hardware.  I am running debian with no GUI on my NAS and its about all it can take
[21:46] <kkerwin> ViN86: Yes.
[21:46] <minimec> ney: .epiphany or .config/epiphany .local/share/epyphany <-- all in your /home directory.
[21:46] <ikonia> switch10_: I'm not using a nas
[21:46] <kkerwin> ViN86: Probably running over SSL.
[21:46] <ney> minimec: thanks! ill give a shot
[21:46] <LorgonJortle> I've recently purchased a Dell Studio 17, and I Ubuntu 10.04 x64 on it. I love the machine, but the function (F1, F2, F3, etc) buttons don't perform regular tasks. Instead, they do things like change the volume or brightness. Is there any way to control this?
[21:47] <ViN86> kkerwin: apparently it can be done in vista and later, but XP requires 3rd party extensions
[21:47] <swaj> for those that care, enabling protocol 41 in ufw can be done like this:  sudo ufw allow proto ipv6 from <IP_ADDRESS>  <-- where that IP on the end is the REMOTE ipv4 endpoint for your tunnel
[21:47] <kkerwin> Damn.