[09:10] <TheMusicGuy> I mean, I'm sure there's a way, but how can it be done with tools like tar/gzip/7zip?
[09:10] <ke1ha> Sure, although we think 60+ GB is' allot, think of it in terms of DVD, 60GB is not very many 8GB DVD's it is.
[09:10] <gerry__> TheMusicGuy, when you said "it uses hardlinks" were you talking about Amanda?
[09:11] <Lint01> Jordan_U: how am I supposed to answer this question? also 'modified'='content changed', not just modification date
[09:11] <mrpink57> TheMusicGuy: I have seen some command scripts on Ubuntu forums on doing system backups to bzip2.
[09:11] <TheMusicGuy> gerry__:  no, rsnapshot
[09:11] <gerry__> ah cheers
[09:11] <ke1ha> Granted, your compression ratio wont be stellar on binary data, but it will still archive it.
[09:12] <meowbuntu> hoe do see a device list in terminal i cant follow the first step in this tutoral there si no room on device ?????
[09:12] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: I have no idea where to even begin with a project like that...
[09:12] <meborc> meowbuntu: type "lspci" in the terminal
[09:12] <ke1ha> If it's critical data, or things you can't afford to loose, a hardware solution is the right answer.
[09:13] <anodesni> I start empathy, but there is no window showing up. Where is it?
[09:13] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: what do you mean a "hardware solution"?
[09:13] <theadmin> anodesi: Check tray for icons
[09:13] <Jordan_U> Lint01, Possible options are etckeeper, dpkg log and bzr log of source packages, doing a diff from a fresh install and others. I refuse to explain all of them, and they all have different advantages and limitations.
[09:13] <anodesni> oh, it is this envelope
[09:13] <meowbuntu> meborc, then
[09:14] <ke1ha> Its pretty easy these days. UB supports all sorts of SATA RAID cards. get 3 1TB drives, but then on a SATA RAID CARD and you good to go.
[09:14] <meborc> meowbuntu: then what? i mean... lspci will give you the list of devices... i thought that was the problem
[09:14] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: O_o
[09:15] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: first, I don't know what a RAID card is, second, I certainly can't afforce 3 TB.
[09:15] <TheMusicGuy> *afford
[09:15] <Lint01> Jordan_U: are you kidding me?  Disk drives are cheap these days. You can create LVM's RAID's Mirrors all with a few key clicks in UB.
[09:16] <TheMusicGuy> gerry__: I've also heard they're unstable
[09:16] <Jordan_U> Lint01, That's only one of the multiple options
[09:16] <Gryphon1> mrpink57: do you know how to get a 4th generation ipod to work on Ubuntu? or what program i could use?
[09:16] <gerry__> TheMusicGuy, I hope not :)
[09:16] <meowbuntu> meborc, no ther is not enough room to do it
[09:17] <mrpink57> Gryphon1: no, i do not own a ipod
[09:17] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: ahh, slow down. You're blowing my mind with terms. I'm a programmer, not a hardware engineer! :D
[09:17] <meowbuntu> meborc, read the first step it has specific instructions.
[09:17] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: but thank you for your help so far, nonetheless. :D
[09:17] <ke1ha> One of my Ubuntu File Servers are just a bunch of drives in an LVM. granted, there's not back up for that, but I back up smaller boxes to it and it was cheap, already had the drives.
[09:17] <mneptok> Gryphon1: when you lug it in, does it appear in Rhythmbox?
[09:17] <mneptok> *plug
[09:18] <Gryphon1> yes mneptok
[09:18] <ke1ha> LVM is a Logical Volume ( Logical Disk )  that cna be 1,2,3,4 et etc drives.
[09:18] <Lint01> Jordan_U: how dpkg log can help here? if it is impossible, just say so
[09:19] <Gryphon1> but i cant put music on it
[09:19] <meowbuntu> meborc, here is the resault http://pastebin.com/d547cd91e
[09:19] <mneptok> Gryphon1: so what feature is not working?
[09:19] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: don't you need a dedicated server for that?
[09:19] <Gryphon1> every thing
[09:19] <meowbuntu> meborc, i should mention the external usb hdd i have is ext3 atm
[09:19] <meborc> meowbuntu: sorry, can't help you... i'm also lost now :)
[09:19] <mneptok> Gryphon1: clearly wrong, as you say it appears in Rhythmbox
[09:20] <ke1ha> Doesnt' need to be "deticated" .. just any UB box, and do a simple Samba share.
[09:20] <sergi> actualizar la bios me ayudaria a arrancar desde usb?
[09:20] <mneptok> Gryphon1: it is being recognized. it is being recognized as a music player. so what are you trying to do that does not work?
[09:20] <ke1ha> Just have to be able to spin up the drives.
[09:20] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: what is UB?
[09:20] <Gryphon1> it come on rhythmbox, but thats all it dose
[09:20] <ke1ha> Ubuntu
[09:20] <TheMusicGuy> oh.
[09:20] <TheMusicGuy> :)
[09:21] <mneptok> Gryphon1: can you copy music to and from it? if not, what is the error message you get?
[09:21] <ke1ha> It could be one disk, and a Simple Samba Share .. that technically is a file server.
[09:21] <Blastur> if i have a program that results a list of files, one path per line, how can i easily make shell command that cats each of those?
[09:22] <Blastur> i tried "myprog | cat" but that didnt work
[09:22] <Gryphon1> there is no error message, it wont copy music on to the ipod, when i did get it on it did not show up on the ipod
[09:22] <ke1ha> Bash loop for i in $n .. do something.
[09:23] <mneptok> Gryphon1: run "df -h" and tell me the mount point of the iPod
[09:24] <Myrtti> !es | sergi
[09:24] <Gryphon1> mneptok, it seams it only works on iTunes
[09:24] <Blastur> thanks!
[09:24] <Jordan_U> Lint01, It may not be possible to easily do what you want, or it may be almost trivial, or somewhere in between depending on what you really want to accomplish. Please read http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#goal . If you do not want to give more information then I am sorry to say I can't help you further, your question as stated is hard but not impossible to accomplish. It is not worth my time or yours for me to explain the steps required to
[09:24] <Jordan_U> do so when it is likely the wrong approach to solving your actual problem.
[09:24] <chrisp> pa.fl.us.undernet.org
[09:25] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: clearly I'm going to have to research this. It would be nice if I could set up a network backup server of some kind, but I really don't have the $$$ for the hardware I need for any real useful solution ATM. I have to make do with existing drives, possibly making use of DVDs.
[09:25] <Gryphon1> how do i run "df-h"????????????
[09:25] <meborc> Gryphon1: type it in terminal... hit enter
[09:25] <mneptok> Gryphon1: Apps > Accessories > Terminal
[09:25] <mneptok> Gryphon1: no quotes
[09:26] <TheMusicGuy> Gryphon1: make sure its df -h  (with a space after the "f")
[09:26] <ke1ha> Samba is your friend on limited resources, just create a shared drive on any Local LAN PC and you've got a simple file Server  / Backup location.
[09:26] <acuster> hey all, sound recorder works fine but none of the im's pick up on my audio: ekiga/pidgin/empathy. How do I get started debugging things?
[09:26] <acuster> I've been through the 'tipical sound problems' page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems/KarmicCaveats
[09:27] <indus> what is the ubuntu qa channel
[09:27] <ke1ha> I would share the biggest drive you have, and use rsync to copy sync the files over your LAN.
[09:27] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: do you think it would be possible to set this up on a router, ie. using custom firmware?
[09:28] <ke1ha> Baring in mind, rsync will only ensure they are equal, if you need incremental backups, there's loads of Bash scripts for doing that.
[09:28] <TheMusicGuy> and some kind of usb/ethernet controller?
[09:28] <Gryphon1>  mneptok it mounted on /media/ipod
[09:28] <ke1ha> well, unless your on Dialup to this IRC, you've got a LAN already of some sort.
[09:29] <mneptok> Gryphon1: ls -l /media/ipod
[09:29] <mneptok> Gryphon1: who owns the mount point?
[09:29] <TheMusicGuy> yeah. My router runs DD-WRT, and I've successfully ssh'd into it once or twice.
[09:30] <ke1ha> if you can SSH to a box on your router, you can do just about anything you need.
[09:30] <Gryphon1> mneptok: /dev/sdb1
[09:31] <mneptok> Gryphon1: ls -l /media
[09:32] <ke1ha> the Ubuntu docs on Samba shares are pretty good. Follow them for settigng up a simple shares drive / folder.
[09:32] <mneptok> Gryphon1: you'll get something like "drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-09-10 17:17 cdrom0" and i want to know what it says in the "root root" bit
[09:33] <mneptok> Gryphon1: not for cdrom0, but for the iPod
[09:34] <Lint01> Jordan_U: which part of my question did you not understood or which additional information do you require? It's rather clear in my opinion
[09:35] <ke1ha> TheMusicGuy: yes, you need to be able to connect form one PC to the other somehow.
[09:35] <Jordan_U> Lint01, I'm sorry, I can't help you.
[09:36] <Gryphon1> There is nothing like"drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-09-10 17:17 cdrom0"
[09:36] <indus> does kopete have yahoo voice and webcam support
[09:36] <mneptok> Gryphon1: ipod
[09:37] <om26er> indus, google it
[09:37] <mneptok> Gryphon1: you type "ls -l /media" (no quotes) and press <enter> and it should have a line about the ipod
[09:37] <Lint01> How to get a list of all files on my system created by package manager whose content had been changed then?
[09:37] <indus> om26er, well, that can be done by everyone, then whats the point of coming here
[09:37] <indus> om26er, you think i havent googled it already?
[09:37] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: this sounds like an involved project. I'm going to need to...
[09:37] <mneptok> !google | om26er
[09:38] <TheMusicGuy> 1.) mount a samba share _permanently_ either to or from each of the PCs that want to back up their data,
[09:38] <TheMusicGuy> 2.) get my router to connect to the backup drives (somehow),
[09:38] <TheMusicGuy> and 3.) install software either on the router or on each of the PC's to be backup up to perform some kind of incremental and/or compressed backup automaticallt
[09:38] <tom967> hi
[09:38] <indus> just wanted to know , if anyone has info if the newer version has more functionality
[09:38] <indus> !kopet
[09:38] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: do I have that right?
[09:38] <indus> !kopete
[09:39] <ke1ha> TheMusicGuy: it's not really, it just sounds like it. In facts it's about 5 or six comman line arguments, and a few lines in smb.conf.
[09:40] <TheMusicGuy> Oh, and I should probably figure out this LVM thing while I'm at it, assuming I can get ahold of some more backup drives. (It's possible, but unlikely.)
[09:40] <ke1ha> yes, you need a router that you can connect 2x computers to, wired is better for this, the Add Samba to share a folder, that's it really.
[09:40] <Gryphon1> mneptok;is that it or should i copy the other stuff? lrwxrwxrwx 1 root  root     7 2010-02-01 09:49 floppy
[09:41] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: hmmm. well, okay.
[09:41] <mneptok> Gryphon1: is the iPod plugged in and mounted?
[09:41] <Gryphon1> Yes it is.
[09:41] <mneptok> Gryphon1: then "ls -l /media" should have a line about the iPod
[09:42] <ke1ha> Its a far better solution than DVD's, although DVD's could be used, it's not generally considered the best method.
[09:42] <Gryphon1> drwx------ 9 byron byron 8192 1970-01-01 02:00 BYRON lrwxrwxrwx 1 root  root     6 2010-02-01 09:49 cdrom -> cdrom0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root  root  4096 2010-02-01 09:49 cdrom0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root  root     7 2010-02-01 09:49 floppy -> floppy0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root  root  4096 2010-02-01 09:49 floppy0  thats every thing.
[09:43] <mneptok> Gryphon1: did you use this iPod on a Mac or on Windows?
[09:43] <TheMusicGuy> btw, wireless is kind of required atm. I know wired would be faster and more stable but there is really only one computer in the house that can be connected wired all the time.
[09:43] <TheMusicGuy> and its pretty old.
[09:44] <ke1ha> Wireless is ok, just do do a 60GB backup while your trying to use the network for anything else, or it will be pretty slow.
[09:44] <ke1ha> oops just dont do ..
[09:44] <linkiduu> hi
[09:44] <Gryphon1> No i tryed it on linux first then when it did not work i put it on windows.
[09:44] <linkiduu> I am getting errors while compiling hydra gtk
[09:45] <mneptok> Gryphon1: unplug the iPod. look in the Settings menu. the last item should be "Format" or something.
[09:45] <ke1ha> Old is ok for the File server, processor power is not needed for a file server, just stable.
[09:46] <motaka2> i have created a .deb package of php 5.3 but it seems to take so long to install is that normal
[09:46] <mneptok> Gryphon1: and you just bought this? from where? is it new?
[09:46] <yudi> kontol
[09:46] <linkiduu> I am getting errors while compiling hydra gtk.please help
[09:46] <ke1ha> In fact, Xubuntu is a good candidate for Older hardware, runes with less resources.
[09:46] <indus> whats difference between xubuntu and ubuntu other than light weight, i mean is there something i cannot do with it?
[09:47] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: I think I'd rather have the router be the server (if possible) because I know it will be on all the time.
[09:47] <psycho_oreos> indus, xubuntu simply has xfce frontend instead of gnome
[09:47] <om26er> indus, no you can do everything in any desktop environment
[09:47] <ke1ha> dont even need the GUI version, Xubuntu or Ubuntu server installs would be ideal.
[09:47] <ke1ha> then SSH to the box for whatever you need.
[09:47] <TheMusicGuy> yes.
[09:47] <Gryphon1> from the uk a month ago and its still new
[09:47] <secret> How do I make myu 3d sphere transparent, at the moment it just shows my wallpaper all around
[09:47] <indus> ok , i have 384 mb ram, and i was wanting to install xubuntu, it doesnt have open office i think whhich i dont use anyway
[09:48] <indus> does skype install on xubuntu ?
[09:48] <om26er> indus, yes sure
[09:48] <Gryphon1> in settings at the its reset settings
[09:48] <mneptok> Gryphon1: is it formatted for Windows, or Mac?
[09:48] <ke1ha> A router, is just that, it routs things, unless you add a NAS (network attached storage), which is a whole other ball of wax, your file server needs to be another box.
[09:49] <linkiduu> I am getting errors while compiling hydra gtk.please help
[09:49] <korya> hi all
[09:49] <linkiduu> hi
[09:49] <Gryphon1> how do i cheak?
[09:49] <indus> ok 1 question, how do i open links in chrome instead of firefox from irc
[09:49] <mneptok> TheMusicGuy: does the router have a USB port that supports mass storage controller functionality?
[09:50] <psycho_oreos> indus, you'll need to set chrome as a default browser
[09:50] <mneptok> Gryphon1: it's in the iPod menu system
[09:50] <linkiduu> indus: make chrome the defautl browser
[09:50] <indus> from where do i set it?
[09:50] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: a router is just a computer. It has RAM, internal (nvram) storage, a CPU, and in this case, MANY network interfaces.
[09:50] <simplechat> random question, is there any reason why volume would start off as 0?
[09:50] <ke1ha> undus: im running Xubuntu on a D400 Laptop right now on a VM install, runs real well, no issues.
[09:50] <simplechat> ie. boot up, no volume and the control is set to 0
[09:50] <DJones> simplechat: Does it get muted every time you shut down
[09:51] <linkiduu> System> Preferences > Preferred Applications
[09:51] <Gryphon1> stupidity is over coming me, Where?
[09:51] <ke1ha> only has 300MB deticated to the XB OS
[09:51] <simplechat> It shouldn't be
[09:51] <simplechat> DJones, i don't set it to mute when i turn it off, but its muted when it starts up
[09:51] <motaka2> how long doesit usually take to install a deb package on ubuntu
[09:51] <TheMusicGuy> mneptok: It does not have USB, but I've seen devices that can be used to make a couple of USB drives act like network file shares.
[09:51] <indus> motaka2, 1 min
[09:51] <DJones> simplechat: Have a look post 7 on this bug report, I had that bug and it's what I did to solve the problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libao-pulse/+bug/455357
[09:52] <TheMusicGuy> mneptok: hang on, I'll find a product listing.
[09:52] <indus> ok done thanks
[09:52] <mneptok> TheMusicGuy: do those devices have drivers supported by your router's firmware?
[09:52] <ke1ha> Well, a computer can be a router, but generally, a router cannot be a computer.
[09:52] <om26er> motaka2, depends on the size of file and speed of the computer. its quick
[09:52] <TheMusicGuy> mneptok: the firmware is dd-wrt.
[09:52] <TheMusicGuy> If it doesn't have the drivers, I can install them.
[09:53] <ke1ha> Umm, not exactly. What type of router do you have ?
[09:53] <motaka2> om26er: I HAVE DEB PACKAGE OG PHP5.3 AND IT IS INSTALLING FOR MORE than 15 mins, is there something wrong with it?
[09:53] <mneptok> TheMusicGuy: oh, really? what if the only drivers provided are for Windows?
[09:53] <TheMusicGuy> mneptok: Why would I need special drivers for a standard transfer protocol like SMB?
[09:53] <indus> ok , i want a super quick desktop but with a slick look, iam not happy with gnome
[09:54] <mneptok> TheMusicGuy: how do you plan to connect the disks?
[09:54] <mneptok> TheMusicGuy: you do not have USB. CAT-5 is not an IO option for hard disks.
[09:54] <mneptok> TheMusicGuy: you either need a pre-rolled NAS solution or you need to create one yourself.
[09:55] <TheMusicGuy> The device has an ethernet port and two usb ports. You plug the drive(s) into it and presents them to the network as file shares.
[09:55] <ke1ha> You can add NAA to a router without a computer attached to it, as the NAS has an embedded OS, but that's about the only way I know how to turn a router into a FS, but then again, it's not the router serving content, it's the NAS
[09:55] <ke1ha> oppps.. can add NAS
[09:56] <Gryphon1> mneptok and TheMusicGuy any useful advice about my ipod problem?
[09:57] <mneptok> Gryphon1: what format is it? Windows or Mac?
[09:57] <theadmin> indus: Quick and sleek are quite... opposite
[09:57] <TheMusicGuy> what is your ipod problem? (bear in mind I know little about interfacing linux with ipod)
[09:57] <mneptok> Gryphon1: go and look. look through the menus.
[09:57] <indus> theadmin, well,windows 7 is both
[09:58] <Gryphon1> which one in particular
[09:58] <ke1ha> yeah, I agree, quick is usually not real cool look'en, sleek usually takes up some resource.
[09:58] <opakavic> rumpsy, where is he?
[09:58] <mneptok> Gryphon1: i don't own an iPod. do a Google search.
[09:58] <ObsidianX> is there a way to install xorg without all of the superfluous drivers that the virtual packages seem to require?
[09:58] <theadmin> indus: Did you even _try_ running 7 at 512MB ram? It's slower then anything
[09:58] <indus> theadmin, i have another system 2 gb so its running dapper :)
[09:58] <ke1ha> FluxBox is a real lightweight Desktop .. as is Xface.
[09:59] <Gryphon1> it looks like MAC
[09:59] <indus> theadmin, so yes i understand your point,
[09:59] <theadmin> ke1ha: XFCE, not XFace
[09:59] <ke1ha> Unfortunaly, Gnome, KDE all = Lots of stuff :-)
[09:59] <indus> theadmin, i have a system with 384 ram, but i find windows xp looks better than xfce
[09:59] <motaka2> checkinstall command not found!   what should i do?
[09:59] <theadmin> indus: Yes...
[09:59] <skydrome> Hi, Im trying to add usrquota support to my /home partition > after i edit the fstab how do activate it?
[09:59] <indus> but i think i havent seen the newer xfce
[09:59] <mneptok> Gryphon1: then that's your problem. Mac-formatted iPods have numerous show-stopping issues in Linux. reformat it for Windows.
[09:59] <indus> maybe it looks better
[09:59] <ke1ha> Yeah, I know XFCE :-)
[09:59] <mneptok> Gryphon1: take it to an Apple store and they will do it for you.
[10:00] <ke1ha> The Mouse Face :-)
[10:00] <ObsidianX> oop, got it. just had to launch the installation from a driver
[10:00] <theadmin> indus: It's quite ugly actually... Well, GNOME is the best for me. Fast AND nice :D
[10:00] <Lint01> How to get a list of all files on my system created by package manager whose content had been changed then?
[10:00] <indus> theadmin, :D
[10:00] <indus> theadmin, i think nautilus takes too much time to open the folders
[10:00] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha, mneptok: I know someone who is currently using DD-WRT on a router to serve files over the internet. It's that's possible, it shouldn't be hard to allow local filesharing through smb.
[10:00] <opakavic> !rumpsy
[10:00] <indus> theadmin, i just installed xp yesterday and its a snap
[10:00] <Gryphon1> ok mneptok what contry are you in?
[10:01] <mneptok> Gryphon1: USA
[10:01] <indus> something wrong with gnome it seems like
[10:01] <ke1ha> DD-WRT, who makes that router ?
[10:01] <mneptok> ke1ha: DDWRT is firmware
[10:01] <opakavic> rumpsy is not helping me :(
[10:01] <Gryphon1> well i am in Zimbabwe and there are no ipod stores hear.
[10:01] <monkeydust> how do i get kradioripper to connect to a stream to record it?
[10:02] <mneptok> Gryphon1: so do a Google search for "reformat ipod windows" and follow the steps
[10:02] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: the router is a Linksys WRT54G series router.
[10:02] <ke1ha> Firmware embedded to hardware ?
[10:02] <titan_ark> hey is it possible to install chrome on ubuntu?
[10:02] <DJones> titan_ark: Yes
[10:02] <titan_ark> or another browser besides FF?
[10:02] <titan_ark> DJones, without wine
[10:02] <TheMusicGuy> It's a special type that has 8MB of internal flash storage.
[10:02] <indus> actually i hear kde is faster ,and of course it looks so gorgeous i can almost weep
[10:02] <TheMusicGuy> (more than other models in the series.)
[10:03] <ke1ha> Right, Im not up speed on this DD-WRT firmware, I have a Linksys Game-Fuel router. But know of no way to make it a file server.
[10:03] <indus> but i prefer gnome for simple menus, and kinda got used to the apps
[10:03] <DJones> titan_ark: yep, I use either Chromium or Chrome, they're both available in ppa's, although not officially supported yet
[10:03] <theadmin> titan_ark: There is a Linux version of Chrome. Opera also has a Linux version
[10:03] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: it basically just runs busybox linux with special software to access the router's...well, routing features.
[10:03] <titan_ark> DJones, okay, could u help me add it?
[10:03] <Gryphon1> Ive reformated the ipod 3 times, it works on windows but i use linux and i want to get it to work in linux
[10:04] <llutz> TheMusicGuy: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Samba_Filesystem
[10:04] <theadmin> titan_ark: Just... chrome.google.com and download the package from there
[10:04] <ke1ha> Yeah, Ok, how does it deal with Disk I/O ?
[10:04] <titan_ark> theadmin, i remember trying opera but it does not support flash right?
[10:04] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: it would have to mount using samba.
[10:04] <titan_ark> theadmin, ah, i was hoping for a way via console :P
[10:04] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: that's where the fileshare device I mentioned comes in.
[10:05] <monkeydust> can any one tell me how to get Kradioripper to connect to shoutcast stream?
[10:05] <ke1ha> Pass, I'd have to read up on that, as Im using Ubuntu server SW for allmost all my LAN funcitons.
[10:05] <llutz> ke1ha: there are a few 3rd-party firmwares for home-routers being able to use that router as NAS/fileserver
[10:05] <Gryphon1> So mneptok: whats the States like?
[10:05] <DJones> titan_ark: I used http://dev.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel#TOC-Linux with either the beta/dev channel, dev channel is slightly less stable but I've not had problems with it, if you pick the beta channel, it'll add a google repository then you can just add google-chrome via synaptic
[10:06] <titan_ark> DJones, cool thx a bunch. i downloaded it from the site
[10:06] <ke1ha> Now that's diffrent, if the firmware makes it a NAS, then yes, I suppose it's possible, but it's gonna need an OS even an 8MB OS could be possible.
[10:06] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Hitachi+-+SimpleNet+USB-to-Ethernet+Adapter/9362021.p?id=1218091958703&skuId=9362021&st=ethernet%20usb&cp=1&lp=5
[10:06] <DJones> titan_ark: Don't forget that it isn't officially supported, so if you have problems, you might not always get support in this channel
[10:06] <llutz> ke1ha: dd-wrt is embedded linux-os
[10:07] <TheMusicGuy> Ha! It actually SAYS that it's linux-compatible. That's pretty rare to see.
[10:07] <llutz> ke1ha: dd-wrt on my asus wl500gp: Linux router 2.4.37 #5193 Thu May 21 01:18:07 CEST 2009 mips unknown
[10:07] <titan_ark> DJones, yeah :) thx for reminding. i am a FF user by default, never used Opera on windows either :P just want an additional browser so thought il try it
[10:07] <ke1ha> ok, well I dont know enough about DD-WRT to comment furthele.r on that. But if you can get Samba on your router embedded OS< then I suppose it's possib
[10:07] <theadmin> titan_ark: FF is the best. It actually is the only Ubuntu browser on which flash works without problems
[10:08] <llutz> ke1ha: theres a lot of other stuff you _could_ run with dd-wrt, but not all makes sense (to me)
[10:08] <titan_ark> theadmin, well i cant say i have no flash problems on FF in ubuntu. but it was bug free in kde.
[10:09] <ke1ha> I've never had a need to but that load onto a router, so iv'e not go down that path. I want the router busy routing, not file serving.
[10:09] <ke1ha> If I wanted the router & file server on one box, I'd put it on a Cmputer with 2 NICS>
[10:09] <Gryphon1> mneptok: are you also using UBUNTU?
[10:09] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: After samba is set up, I still need to determine the best way to set up automatic backups for each PC. Should it be initiated by the server (the router), or should it be initiated by each client on its own time?
[10:09] <ke1ha> and a switch of course.
[10:10] <llutz> TheMusicGuy: use cron-jobs on clients if they don't run 24/7
[10:10] <ke1ha> Backups = Simple Incremental or sync script. Use crontab for scheduling.
[10:11] <ke1ha> Incremental sill take up more room, but give more restore options, rsync, fast and  mirris the source tree.
[10:11] <mneptok> Gryphon1: of course
[10:11] <ke1ha> oops mirrors the source tree.
[10:12] <llutz> TheMusicGuy: look at rsnapshot
[10:12] <mneptok> Gryphon1: but that's off-topic. you should go and learn how to reformat that iPod for Windows
[10:12] <TheMusicGuy> At least one of my systems will be running windows; I can't use a purely linux solution
[10:12] <llutz> TheMusicGuy: there's rsync for windows too
[10:12] <Gryphon1> Thanks for the help
[10:12] <TheMusicGuy> llutz: rsnapshot too?
[10:13] <llutz> TheMusicGuy: idk, no windows to backup here :)
[10:13] <mneptok> Gryphon1: np. good luck.
[10:13] <ke1ha> rsnapshot is good for incremental BU's like we talked abt earlier. What's the goal of the back up ?
[10:13] <Gryphon1> But i still want to get it to work on Ubuntu!
[10:14] <mneptok> Gryphon1: it will, once formatted for Windows
[10:14] <TheMusicGuy> To prevent a lot of important data from being lost once all these old machines I have finally die. :D
[10:14] <llutz> TheMusicGuy: http://www.stillnetstudios.com/snapshot-backups-howto/
[10:15] <ke1ha> ok, but do you need multiple restore points, does the data change dynamically ? or is it primarily static data ?
[10:15] <Gryphon1> Sure thanks
[10:15] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: its a bit of both.
[10:16] <TheMusicGuy> I guess a large portion of it is static, but there are some things that get changed regularly.
[10:16] <ke1ha> well I'd say rsnapshot or rsync then.
[10:16] <Pupeno> I need to add copyright information to lot's of files... any ideas how to do it without having to open file by file?
[10:16] <ke1ha> cat >>
[10:17] <TheMusicGuy> If I use rsnapshot, I basically just point its backup location to a mount point that is a network drive and then use it as usual, correct?
[10:17] <ke1ha> Bash for i in $n ... cat >>
[10:17] <DocPlatypus> are there any known issues with Lucid where a system sits at the login screen with a spinning mouse cursor?
[10:18] <DocPlatypus> failing that... where can I see exactly what is causing my system to hang there
[10:18] <DJones> DocPlatypus: You'll be better asking that in the Lucid support channel #ubuntu-1
[10:18] <DocPlatypus> DJones: thanks
[10:18] <ghostlines> my paritions id is 83(ext3) but it's type still isn't recognized when i try to mount it
[10:18] <DJones> DocPlatypus: You'll be better asking that in the Lucid support channel #ubuntu+1 (I mean)
[10:18] <ghostlines> any ideas anyone
[10:19] <ke1ha> I'd read up on rsnapshot and test it to makes sure you understand all it's features / functions and ensure it meets your needs.
[10:19] <Pupeno> ke1ha: is that for me?
[10:19] <TheMusicGuy> ah, I just read that it only runs on linux.
[10:19] <TheMusicGuy> hm.
[10:20] <llutz> TheMusicGuy: continue reading
[10:20] <llutz> "....Rsnapshot only runs on Linux, but you can easily backup any machine running any OS with it......"
[10:20] <motaka2> can anyone help me upgrading php5.2 to php5.3 on ubuntu 8.04 ?
[10:20] <ke1ha> Yeah, use a simple for each Bash loop toe cat the copywrite into to the end of each file.
[10:20] <TheMusicGuy> llutz: that doesn't make sense...
[10:21] <llutz> TheMusicGuy: read how it works, then it will make sense
[10:21] <ke1ha> assuming there test, binary may be a diffrent story.
[10:21] <TheMusicGuy> llutz: erm, I'll keep reading.
[10:21] <Pupeno> ke1ha: copyright information generally goes at the top. I need it at the top.
[10:21] <ke1ha> opps assuming they are text files...
[10:22] <ke1ha> at the top, well, that can be done too, but I'd have to think on that one a bit.
[10:22] <llutz> Pupeno: cat file >> copyright.msg
[10:22] <llutz> (text only)
[10:23] <llutz> Pupeno: then just wrap a mv/copy around and you have it
[10:24] <Quan-Time> anyone know a .jpg batch resizer ? for resizing like 20+ images.. ?
[10:24] <llutz> Quan-Time: convert
[10:24] <ke1ha> id' do an expect or something like that Pupeno ( ex - coptywrite<<! ) something like that in a loop.
[10:24] <Quan-Time> llutz: awesome.. cheers
[10:24] <Chousuke> convert may be a bit tricky to use though :P
[10:24] <llutz> Quan-Time: package is "imagemagick"
[10:24] <Chousuke> mostly because it has approximately eleventy billion different options
[10:24] <Chousuke> and finding the right one requires careful reading of the manual page :)
[10:25] <ke1ha> wow, we need to get on some Ubuntu topics .. :-)
[10:25] <llutz> Chousuke: -resize AxB
[10:25] <Quan-Time> llutz: there a gui for it ? or all command based ? not a huge issue, but yer ;)
[10:25] <Chousuke> llutz: hehe.
[10:25] <sergi> my floppy drive does not work and is incompatible with my bios boot from usb, how can I solve this problem?
[10:25] <llutz> Quan-Time: i don't know any
[10:27] <Chousuke> Quan-Time: for i in *.jpg; do convert -resize AxB ${i}.jpg ${i}-resized.jpg; done
[10:27] <ben_q> Hello, can anyone help me with starting an ad-hoc wirless connection? when I click on "connect to hidden wireless network" I can choose the network I set up, but I cannot click the connect-button. it's deactive. anyone know why that would be?
[10:27] <Joundill> I need help with tvtime or MythTV and xawtv, I can get sound from my tuner with xawtv, but no sound with tvtime or mythtv. Can anybody help me?
[10:27] <Chousuke> Quan-Time: might want to run that with echo in front of the convert first
[10:30] <llutz> Chousuke: ... convert -resize AxB "$i" ${i//.jpg}-resized.jpg
[10:30] <sergi> Is there any to boot from usb without bios support?
[10:30] <theadmin> sergi: No. If BIOS does not support USB boot, you can't do this.
[10:30] <Chousuke> llutz: ah, some bash magic I see :P
[10:31] <Diverdude> For some reason when i have installed emacs using the packet manager it has installed an old version...version 22.2.1...(even though i did it recently)...the newest version is 23.1 How come packet manage did not install the newest emacs?
[10:31] <nixjr> my webcam apparently supports videos of upto 1600x1200, but the program cheese webcam booth, only lets me select upto 640x480
[10:31] <llutz> or ${i#*.}-resized.jpg
[10:32] <Chousuke> Diverdude: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[10:32] <TupoyVolk> nixjr: Same thing with webcammax.
[10:32] <Chousuke> Diverdude: 23.1 is in the repositories for karmic
[10:32] <sergi> and if I update the BIOS might solve the problem or give me the option to boot from usb, I read that Windows has an application for it.
[10:32] <DJones> Diverdude: Are you using Karmic or an older version
[10:32] <Chousuke> oh wait.
[10:32] <nixjr> TupoyVolk, im nto sure, this the first ive evre used a webcam in linux, ill install that priogram now and test it
[10:32] <ke1ha> just go into your /etc/bashrc and change it to what you want command-line and GUI for your defaults.
[10:32] <Chousuke> apparently not
[10:33] <TupoyVolk> nixjr: webcammax has the same problem. + isn't opensource
[10:33] <iceroot> ke1ha: ~/.bashrc
[10:33] <Chousuke> the version string for emacs is "23.1+1-4ubuntu2+22.2+0ubuntu6"... I wonder what that's supposed to mean :P
[10:33] <Lint01> How to get a list of all files on my system created by package manager whose content had been changed then?
[10:33] <nixjr> TupoyVolk, ah sorry, i misread that as a question not a statement, this this is a limitation of the software?
[10:33] <DJones> Diverdude: The latest version in the repo for Jaunty is 22.2, so if you're using Jaunty, that'll be latest version available
[10:34] <Chousuke> Diverdude: try and see if you can install it from the "emacs23" package
[10:34] <ke1ha> yeah, for the current user ... for all users created change the adduser bashrc or just add it to your profile
[10:34] <Diverdude> DJones, but 22.2 is like way old...2 years old...newest version is 23.1 which is half a year old
[10:34] <TupoyVolk> nixjr: Yes, I have no idea why. it's frustrating, on the software that comes with the camera (for windows at least) you can use the max resolution.
[10:35] <Chousuke> Diverdude: it's at least in the karmic-updates repository
[10:35] <Diverdude> Chousuke, should i then uninstall my old emacs first?
[10:35] <Chousuke> Diverdude: shouldn't matter. you can have both installed at the same time
[10:35] <sergi> I have acer aspire 1640Z if I update the BIOS can boot from usb?
[10:35] <teffers> hey anyone got stepmania 3.9 working on 9.04 im tryign to compile sourcecode but havign a problem with it missing opengl librarys and or course the ubuntu package need libavcodec which is now depriciated
[10:35] <Chousuke> Diverdude: of course, if you aren't going to use 22, then go ahead and uninstall it :)
[10:35] <nixjr> TupoyVolk, im thinking of setting up the camera to take snapshots every few seconds for a few days, there are many program that do this, or ones that take single shots i could write scripts for, do you have any reccomendations?
[10:36] <angrynerd> is it possible to boot from live cd without having a harddisk??
[10:36] <Chousuke> angrynerd: should be.
[10:37] <theadmin> angrynerd: Yep, should be
[10:37] <angrynerd> can i then plug in the messed up harddisk after booting from live cd to format it?
[10:37] <theadmin> angrynerd: Yeah
[10:37] <teffers> hey guys on anyone nto so busy as to help[ me
[10:37] <teffers> ???
[10:37] <angrynerd> ok great
[10:37] <teffers> and brb
[10:37] <TheMusicGuy> llutz: I've spotted a couple issues: 1.) rsnapshot requires a filesystem supporting hardlinks, and I don't think samba supports that, 2.) the file server must initiate the backup process, which means backups will be missed for clients that aren't connected at the time the backup starts
[10:37] <Chousuke> you can't plug in a hard drive while the system is running... unless it's USB or unless it supports hotswap :P
[10:37] <ke1ha> yes, you'd just need to create a mount point for the drive.
[10:38] <TheMusicGuy> llutz: the second one may or not become a problem
[10:38] <ke1ha> well true, needs to be a USB deal or have it installed at boot the mount it.
[10:38] <angrynerd> chousuke why what happens then?
[10:39] <rumpsy> i'm here :)
[10:39] <Chousuke> angrynerd: well, it MIGHT work but I wouldn't dare try :P
[10:39] <Chousuke> angrynerd: why can't you just boot with the HD plugged in? :/
[10:40] <TheMusicGuy> I kinda need something that can do incremental backups over samba.
[10:40] <sergi> someone can help me solve my problem please, I want my usb bootable bios, but it gives me that option
[10:40] <TheMusicGuy> I need to go, though. Sorry.
[10:40] <rumpsy> sergi: ?
[10:40] <llutz> TheMusicGuy: checking for clients being online can be done by a simple cron-job. hardlinks in samba.. no idea
[10:40] <l700bluetooth> Last time I checked was May 2009. Does the ralink rt2860 chipset supports master mode now? I mean can it be used as an AP?
[10:41] <ke1ha> I would not do it after the systems booted unless it's like Chousuke said, it's a hot swapable setup.
[10:41] <angrynerd> windows7 messed up my harddrive I cant even get to the bootmanager when the hd is plugged in
[10:41] <rumpsy> sergi: Give us a clear view
[10:41] <Chousuke> angrynerd: which boot manager? :/
[10:41] <sergi> my bios does not give me the option to boot from usb, as I fix this please?
[10:42] <ke1ha> Well, you dont need the boot manager for the LiveCD, but does the drive allow you to get to the LiveCD?
[10:42] <angrynerd> no bootmanager, I mean it freezes at the bios cant boot from cd nor access the bios setup
[10:42] <theadmin> sergi: Buy a new computer. You can't "fix" that
[10:42] <Chousuke> angrynerd: hm.
[10:42] <rumpsy> sergi: so what kind of error message you get?
[10:42] <angrynerd> when I remove the hd it works just asks for boot device
[10:42] <Chousuke> sergi: see if there is a bios upgrade available
[10:42] <ke1ha> That sounds more like a physical fault v.s. a BM fault.
[10:42] <Chousuke> sergi: other than that, not much you can do about it.
[10:43] <Chousuke> angrynerd: can't you borrow a USB case from somewhere?
[10:43] <barf> Anyone got a recommendation for an SSD? How can the trim function be called from command line? Need 8-32GB
[10:43] <Chousuke> angrynerd: I mean, plugging things into a running system not designed for that is rather risky.
[10:43] <Chousuke> angrynerd: who knows how the hardware will react?
[10:43] <ke1ha> Intel MX25 SSD or the Micron SLC
[10:43] <angrynerd> hm ok I'll buy one chousuke
[10:44] <ke1ha> works great with Ubuntu :-)
[10:44] <Sargun> how do I find out who maintains a specific package
[10:44] <ke1ha> That doesn't sound right though angrynerd .. normally if the MBR is hosed up, the CD will still fire up.
[10:44] <theadmin> Sargun: Check the Launchpad, I believe
[10:45] <maco> Sargun: nobody does
[10:45] <maco> Sargun: ubuntu does not have specific people maintaining specific packages
[10:45] <Kohar> sergi did you check new firmware for youre bios?
[10:45] <sergi> no error message I get just one out the possibility of hard disk, CD, floppy and USB network and does not leave
[10:45] <barf> Here is the smallest one from my local dealer: http://www.netshop.no/aspx/produkt/prdinfovnet.aspx?plid=125864
[10:45] <maco> Sargun: the MOTU maintain universe & multiverse. the core devs cover everything
[10:45] <barf> ke1ha: How to run the trim function?
[10:46] <angrynerd> kelha i know no one believes me but I found many ppl with the same problem asus notebook + windows 7
[10:46] <barf> Is there a package with tools?
[10:46] <ke1ha> trim ... in what excell :-) ?
[10:46] <regis> ?
[10:46] <Lint01> How to get a list of all files on my system created by package manager whose content had been changed then?
[10:46] <barf> ssd trim
[10:46] <Chousuke> barf: why would you run trim manually?
[10:46] <barf> I have no clue
[10:46] <Chousuke> barf: the OS should take care of that.
[10:47] <sergi> The problem is that you update the bios from Ubuntu, as I do?
[10:47] <barf> Just getting to know how it will affect my day
[10:47] <ke1ha> Oh I don't know... not into it that far. Just used a friends box the other day that had a pair of the SLC's in it, man the thing was fast !!
[10:47] <barf> update BIOS from Ubuntu?
[10:47] <Chousuke> barf: I don't think it even makes sense to command the drive directly. you'll just mess up the filesystem :/
[10:47] <barf> oki
[10:48] <ke1ha> I ordered a  couple last week for another project, so will be testing over the next few weeks.
[10:48] <meowbuntu> ging!askkl
[10:48] <meowbuntu> !askkl
[10:48] <barf> ke1ha: Which did you order?
[10:49] <n00p> guys, I have this entry "ifupdown (eth2)" in my wired network connections config... it appeared after I did something stupid, that's really my wireless connection. how do I get rid of it?
[10:49] <ke1ha> I got the MX's ..
[10:50] <theadmin> How do I install .emerald themes?
[10:51]  * n00p waits patiently for a response
[10:53] <ke1ha> barf: SSDSA2M160G2XXX
[10:53] <llutz> n00p: have you changed eth2 settings at /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:54] <Lint01> is it a support channel or some club chat?
[10:54] <xiong> OK. I have just completed full, duplicate backups onto DVD of my entire filesystem (with a few deliberate and obvious omissions). I'm about to repartition and clean install of 9.10. Obviously, the benefit of this will be lost if I then reinstall everything from DVD.
[10:54] <n00p> llutz: I added it to that file yes, to access my wireless which now due to my bitching mother (who doesn't pay a cent to access the internet she was bitching about not being able to access) bitching about the internet... anyway, should I remove it?
[10:54] <theadmin> Lint01: Support channel. Offtopic chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:55] <xiong> So, how should I organize my reinstall? And what last-minute info should I stash in USB thumb drive?
[10:55] <ke1ha> Sound, NIC and VID Driver Iinfo.
[10:56] <onaogh> n00p, respect your mother
[10:56] <theadmin> Lint01: If you don't get your question solved here, try ubuntuforums.org
[10:56] <ke1ha> only the last few upgrades I've done, NIC and VID has been real good, but had a fair few issues with ALSA.
[10:57] <n00p> onaogh: no, I respect her, but I think she's a bitch. If she hadn't bitched about her computer not having access (when she doesn't even pay anything) then I wouldn't be bitching about my computer not having access... maybe I should just cut the internet and get a wireless chip just for this computer... she can pay for it
[10:57] <grub_problems> i have just noticed that in windows "C:\ubuntu\disks\boot\grub" directory is empty.  is that wrong?
[10:57] <theadmin> !language | n00p
[10:57] <n00p> theadmin: are you offended?
[10:57] <theadmin> n00p: Eh, not me.  Adress bar in Firefox dissapeared o_O
[11:00] <theadmin> ...Got it back :D never mind. Creepy.
[11:01] <Apust1k> miten saa kirjautettuu kaverin ulos linux
[11:01] <ke1ha> I had one today, when I booted Xubuntu, after dist-upg, it would let my user log in, but let them log in as other.
[11:01] <theadmin> !fi | Apust1k
[11:02] <ke1ha> opps it would not let ..
[11:02] <ke1ha> been scouring the Bug lists for that one, have seen anything yet.
[11:03] <n00p> so I removed my wireless device from /etc/network/interfaces, "ifupdown (eth2)" (my wireless with a weird name) still shows up in network manager as a "wired device"...
[11:03] <Jimi_Neutral> hi all, i have just downloaded gFTP. I cant find it though under applications. How do I start it?
[11:04] <ke1ha> should start from a terminal until you make a link .. just type gftp
[11:04] <barf> How can I install ubuntu from memory stick?
[11:05] <DJones> !usb | barf
[11:05] <theadmin> !unetbootin | barf
[11:05] <koshari> barf use unetbootin, and hope your PC supports booting from it
[11:06] <barf> unetbootin?
[11:06] <barf> What is that?
[11:06] <ke1ha> yeah, be prepared for a lengthy install though, those USB drives can really slow tings down.
[11:06] <koshari> Jimi_Neutral the default place for the launcher is under internet also
[11:06] <barf> I just bought new machine
[11:06] <theadmin> barf: see http://unetbootin.sf.net
[11:07] <ke1ha> Are you wanting to install from USB, or install too USB ?
[11:07] <barf> Usually when I make a bootable memory stick, I just have to do dd if=OS.iso of=/dev/memorystick
[11:08] <n00p> guys can I get some advice regarding my mysterious "ifupdown" in network-manager-gnome GUI that can't be removed due to a disabled 'delete' button?
[11:08] <barf> then do another dd to patch the first sectors
[11:08] <barf> n00p: cat /etc/network/interfaces
[11:08] <n00p> nothing
[11:08] <n00p> I cleared it
[11:08] <DJones> barf: If you already have an ubuntu machine, you can use USBCreator from the menu which does everything for you
[11:08] <barf> n00p: I don’t know the GUI
[11:08] <shutupbitch> hello everybody!!!!!
[11:09] <n00p> thanks for your input. anyone who does know the GUI and the console know how to remove this network connection?
[11:09] <shutupbitch> rip off the wires.
[11:10] <n00p> uhh
[11:10] <ke1ha> remive it form /etc/network.interfaces
[11:10] <n00p> ke1ha: from where?
[11:10] <n00p> you mean
[11:11] <ke1ha> .. it's late .. remove it from /etc/network/interfaces...
[11:11] <n00p> /etc/network/interfaces
[11:11] <n00p> ----I already did!----
[11:11] <shutupbitch> ubuntu sucks.
[11:11] <rob_p> !ops
[11:11] <DJones> !ot | shutupbitch
[11:11] <barf> DJones: I have several ubuntu/debian alternate installs and also some Mac workstations
[11:11] <ke1ha> did you restart your network ?
[11:11] <nixjr> does using "complete removal" in synaptic, remove all the dependencies?
[11:12] <n00p> ke1ha: "restart your network"? what good would that be? the problem lies in network-manager-gnome!
[11:12] <Myrtti> nixjr: no, it removes all the config files
[11:12] <ke1ha> --autoremove --purge does.
[11:12] <n00p> and yeh, I restarted my entire machine
[11:12] <n00p> many times
[11:12] <unimatrix> does gnome-panel in Ubuntu Karmic support RGBA yet ?
[11:12] <n00p> that doesn't seem to do anything.
[11:12] <ke1ha> Ok., pass, can't help ya.
[11:12] <DJones> barf: In that case, I'd be tempted to download whichever iso you want to use (Live CD/Alternate etc) and use the USB creator to do the work, I've never had a problem using that
[11:12] <mand> hi
[11:12] <maco> unimatrix: of course. has for years
[11:12] <n00p> thanks for trying. anyone want to ask some new questions regarding my problem?
[11:12] <erUSUL> nixjr: no; it removes configuration files in /etc/
[11:13] <maco> unimatrix: as long as i can remember, youve been able to choose a transparency level when picking the colour
[11:13] <unimatrix> maco: are you sure, because when i enable it it's sort of broken
[11:13] <mand> i've configured my x-window-manager alternativ to sawfish and i've deleted my ~/.gnome2/session file to start with a fresh session, but gnome still uses metacity and does not execute x-window-manager
[11:13] <mand> why?
[11:13] <unimatrix> maco: that's not RGBA
[11:13] <maco> unimatrix: A = alpha = transparency, yeah?
[11:13] <grub_problems> can someone give me a grub.cfg file?  mine dissapeared....
[11:14] <unimatrix> maco: yes, but that's just the solid background color
[11:14] <_lenin_> hello all i have som problem with grub.  when i boot i see next message
[11:14] <_lenin_>        [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported.   For
[11:14] <_lenin_>          the   first   word,  TAB  lists  possible  command
[11:14] <_lenin_>          completions.  Anywhere else TAB lists the possible
[11:14] <_lenin_>          completions of a device/filename. ]
[11:14] <FloodBot4> _lenin_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:14] <_lenin_> grub>
[11:14] <Jimi_Neutral> Ok i have started gFTP and changed the conf file to enable a remote pc access. What will the user and passowrd be cause it didnt ask me to set one
[11:14] <unimatrix> maco: colors support RGBA, not the panel
[11:14] <maco> unimatrix: in that case i'm confused. what?
[11:15] <Slart> unimatrix: the panel doesn't support transparency yet .. at least not on my 9.10 install
[11:15] <unimatrix> maco: http://www.cimitan.com/blog/wp-content/rgba-murrine-170208.png
[11:15] <unimatrix> Slart: thank you
[11:15] <Slart> unimatrix: I'm not sure I should add the "yet" even... I'm starting to think it's not even on the roadmap =/
[11:15] <maco> Slart: wait so what's this not-a-colour transparency?
[11:16] <maco> Slart: how can rgba refer to anything *but* colours?
[11:16] <unimatrix> Slart: they've promised general RGBA support for Lucid, so i think it is
[11:16] <maco> unimatrix: but lucid will have the same version of gnome as karmic
[11:16] <Slart> maco: the panel will only do a blend between the solid background.. it won't show windows behind it and such
[11:16] <erUSUL> unimatrix: i can make the panel transparent easily on the properties>background> (compiz enabled)
[11:16] <Tm_T> _lenin_: sorry again
[11:16] <maco> unimatrix: at least, i think it will... cuz lucid's not going to gnome 3
[11:16] <patrick_> hi
[11:17] <maco> Slart: aah ok. so unimatrix wants *true* transparency
[11:17] <patryk_> hi
[11:17] <unimatrix> erUSUL: that's not the same, it will make everything transparent, RGBA mode doesn't make the icons and text transparent, only the background
[11:17] <n00p> in my "wired connections" I have "Auto eth0" and "ifupdown (eth2)"... eth2 is actually wireless and it was placed there after messing around trying to get the bloody thing to work. The "delete" button is disabled when I highlight "ifupdown"... Does anyone know how I can remove this?
[11:17] <unimatrix> maco: that's right
[11:17] <Slart> maco: or rather.. it will show you the background wallpaper (not just solid color) .. but not windows and such..
[11:17] <Slart> maco: yes
[11:17] <erUSUL> unimatrix: Slart ok you are right it does not show windows behind it. is fake transparency
[11:17] <theadmin> n00p: There are key-like icon in networkmanager. Did you hit that?
[11:18] <maco> Slart: it didnt occur to me that windows could go behind the panel.
[11:18] <unimatrix> erUSUL: no, that's not what true transparency is
[11:18] <n00p> theadmin: the delete button -is- enabled for auto eth0
[11:18] <Slart> maco: then you haven't made it big enough =)
[11:18] <n00p> and there is no keylike icon for me
[11:18] <maco> Slart: made what big enough?
[11:18] <erUSUL> unimatrix: i'm agreeing with you
[11:18] <Slart> maco: the panel =)
[11:18] <phimic> hi all
[11:18] <theadmin> n00p: Oh wait. Strange.
[11:18] <_lenin_> I have some problem with grub. When i boot  i see grub>  next i type command boot i have error 8: kernel must be loaded before booting. When i manualy set kernel ubuntu hangs up. What is wrong?
[11:18] <phimic> anyone uses ufw with ulogd?
[11:18] <n00p> theadmin: no, just a different distro.
[11:19] <n00p> different style
[11:19] <n00p> it asks for authorization at a different stage
[11:19] <n00p> (ie after I click the delete button)
[11:19] <Jimi_Neutral> Ok i have started gFTP and changed the conf file to enable a remote pc access. What will the user and passowrd be cause it didnt ask me to set one
[11:19] <maco> Slart: i think my window manager always puts windows *on top* of the panel if they're moved to overlap it
[11:19] <theadmin> n00p: I use Karmic... I kinda forgot stuff already lol
[11:19] <unimatrix> erUSUL, Slart, maco: in Karmic you can actually enable RGBA for many programs like gedit, rhythmbox, system-monitor, etc... but not gnome-panel
[11:19] <pedrovrm> hi, I lost my hd and would like to use ubuntu in a pendrive, I already have it on a pendrive, but I would like to know how to install software in it
[11:19] <maco> unimatrix: i have none of those installed :P
[11:19] <Slart> unimatrix, maco: actually.. I just made it transparent using the ccsm.. true transparency and all =)
[11:20] <n00p> So is there any bearded wise man here who will rescue my broken GUI?!
[11:20] <unimatrix> Slart: it's not the same
[11:20] <unimatrix> Slart: that makes the icons&text transparent too
[11:20] <MenZa> !details | n00p
[11:20] <Oli``> One of my RAM sticks occasionally drops out at boot. It's very occasionally so it's very hard to test (I have 6 sticks). Is there some way I can show which slots are running from within Ubuntu?
[11:20] <Slart> unimatrix: ah.. yes.. that's true
[11:20] <n00p> MenZa: I've given full details. Please read more accurately.
[11:20] <MenZa> n00p: Well, give them on one line, and have patience.
[11:21] <MenZa> n00p: There's a massive amount of activity in here which makes it easy to lose things. :)
[11:21] <n00p> MenZa, I'm repeating myself word for word for you: in my "wired connections" I have "Auto eth0" and "ifupdown (eth2)"... eth2 is actually wireless and it was placed there after messing around trying to get the bloody thing to work. The "delete" button is disabled when I highlight "ifupdown"... Does anyone know how I can remove this?
[11:21] <Slart> unimatrix: including the properties window.. and the "Add to panel"-dialog
[11:21] <maco> Oli``: maybe "sudo lshw" might help
[11:21] <maco> Slart: ew
[11:21] <MenZa> n00p: Excellent--no need to get bitey; I'm only trying to streamline communication here. :)
[11:21] <unimatrix> Slart: yes
[11:21] <arvernus> Hello! I've got the latest Ubuntu 9.10 installed with the latest updates and Firefox 3.5.7. Whenever I try to enable the Firebug-Console, Firefox crashes. No matter what page I'm on or how many tabs are open. Any help, plese?
[11:21] <MenZa> maco: I think -c memory will only grab memory, ftr
[11:22] <unimatrix> Slart: we don't want that, we only need the panel background to be transparent
[11:22] <Slart> unimatrix: yup.. I agree
[11:22] <n00p> hmmm... well I did first ask $uptime(mIRC,1) ago...
[11:22] <n00p> hmmm... well I did first ask 34mins 43secs ago...
[11:22] <unimatrix> Slart: i actually found a brainstorm for this http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/23098/
[11:23] <n00p> I understand you are telling me not to be bitey for a reason
[11:23] <n00p> and I hate to seem impatient
[11:23] <unimatrix> Slart: aaand... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/441727
[11:23] <n00p> but I feel as though I'm getting -nowhere- by being here
[11:23] <theadmin> n00p: Oh? Try the forums, might be more helpful
[11:23] <barf> I want to put the ubuntu installer on a memory stick and make it bootable
[11:23] <unimatrix> Slart, maco, erUSUL go to that bug and click "It affects me"
[11:23] <Jimi_Neutral> how do i set the username and passord on vsftpd so people can log into it?
[11:23] <Slart> unimatrix: will do
[11:23] <theadmin> barf: Told ya, use unetbootin.
[11:24] <bazhang> barf, try unetbootin then
[11:24] <rosco> hello
[11:24] <Oli``> maco: It does show the ram but it shows all 12GB present and correct. free (et al) think there's only 10gigs suggesting one is missing/faulty
[11:24] <MenZa> n00p: Have patience. Someone will come around; perhaps check the forums while you wait?
[11:25] <barf> But it appears to require GUI? http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/#other
[11:25] <ke1ha> oli``` I checked /proc/meminfo .. looks like it lumps it all together as well.
[11:26] <barf> bazhang: theadmin: But it appears to require GUI? http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/#other
[11:27] <barf> Isn’t there just a bootsector file anywhere?
[11:27] <bazhang> barf, correct; you never specified otherwise
[11:27] <theadmin> barf: Oh, you want a no-gui solution... sorry
[11:27] <barf> I have Mac GUI and ubuntu/debian terminal available
[11:27] <ke1ha> you may find this usefull oli```: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4681
[11:28] <Ziago> Anyone having troubles with Mumble + Wine?
[11:29] <Ziago> Actually, I'm not sure it's Mumble + WINE. After booting, my microphone just stops working for whatever reason.
[11:30] <meatbun> http://www.amazon.com/Eagle-Tech-CSNPSU2-BK-3-5%C2%BF-enclosure/dp/B001U6I6M2/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1265627258&sr=1-9
[11:30] <Vampire0> Hi there, I'm on Karmic and I observe very strange behaviour. I make changes for the autostart programs, but they are sometimes not save. I cannot really reproduce when it happens and when not :-(
[11:30] <Jaimie> Ziago; why not run native?
[11:30] <Jaimie> http://mumble.sourceforge.net/Installing_Mumble#Linux
[11:30] <meatbun> i got this thing. and it corrupted my data. beware!!!!!!!!
[11:30] <Ziago> Jaimie: Oh, I'm using Mumble natively
[11:31] <Ziago> sudo aptitude install mumble
[11:31] <Jaimie> ofc
[11:31] <Ziago> But, I'm also using an application through WINE. Scratch the statement about WINE
[11:31] <Ziago> For whatever reason, my mic just stops working, and sound ultimately becomes very garbled and unusable after a while.
[11:31] <Ziago> It's a default Ubuntu install, aside from Wine and Mumble.
[11:31] <Jaimie> cant say ive had that before
[11:32] <Ziago> I'm getting tons of messages like this in /var/log/messages: pulseaudio[1461]: ratelimit.c: 14 events suppressed
[11:32] <Jason__> Hi, why ubuntu server edition doesn't show all the processes status but just some? (e.g. I don't see mysql booting up, but there is apache). In this way cannot see if everything is booted up correctly
[11:33] <theadmin> Jason__: Are you running the process displaying command as root? Otherwise, it might not display not-owned processes
[11:33] <Guest41226> help
[11:33] <Guest41226> sudo aptitude install libsdl-perl libcompress-zlib-perl
[11:34] <theadmin> Guest41226: And?
[11:34] <Jason__> theadmin: I mean when the system is booting, just before the login. I don't write any command...
[11:34] <Guest41226> Writing extended state information... Done
[11:34] <Guest41226> (Reading database ... 262778 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:34] <Guest41226> Unpacking libsdl-gfx1.2-4 (from .../libsdl-gfx1.2-4_2.0.19-2_i386.deb) ...
[11:34] <Guest41226> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libsdl-gfx1.2-4_2.0.19-2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[11:34] <FloodBot4> Guest41226: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:35] <Ziago> Meh. Heading back to Windows.
[11:35] <unimatrix> Ziago: what's the problem
[11:35] <Ziago> unimatrix: Sound doesn't work =/
[11:35] <lukjad007> I'm following this guide: http://stringofthoughts.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/grub-error-17-debianubuntu/
[11:35] <Ziago> unimatrix: Sound works for a while, but then it dies.
[11:35] <lukjad007> I'm following this guide: http://stringofthoughts.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/grub-error-17-debianubuntu/
[11:35] <lukjad007> I have error 17, but don't know how to install grub since I use sda and not hda for my hard drives
[11:35] <unimatrix> Ziago: ubuntu 9.10
[11:35] <Ziago> Microphone input works for a while, then it does. Tons of messages like these in /var/log/messages: pulseaudio[1461]: ratelimit.c: 14 events suppressed
[11:35] <unimatrix> Ziago: ?
[11:36] <Ziago> Ubuntu 9.10, default installation.
[11:36] <unimatrix> Ziago: what sound card
[11:36] <Ziago> Just mobo sound.
[11:36] <Ziago> I'll get you the lspci sec
[11:36] <Ziago> ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[11:37] <hlj_> 没人说中文么？
[11:37] <erUSUL> !cn
[11:37] <unimatrix> Ziago: when does it stop working
[11:38] <m_fulder> hi
[11:38] <Guest41226> theadmin, and >>>E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libsdl-gfx1.2-4_2.0.19-2_i386.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libSDL_gfx.so.13', which is also in package sdl-gfx 0
[11:38] <m_fulder> is it possible to connect to a ubuntu machine (while having a server on it) with my mobile phone? so I can use internet through my server?
[11:38] <ke1ha> There's allot activity on ALSA on the bug reports I had trouble when I did the dist-upg on an early ISO. worked on the same box with a later ISO, same base install.
[11:38] <Ziago> unimatrix: About 5 minutes after booting.
[11:39] <Ziago> Sound ultimately becomes very garbled, and the microphone just stops picking up sound altogether
[11:39] <unimatrix> Ziago: what happens if you restart pulseaudio
[11:40] <calrik> Hi all for some reason my ubuntu is jumpy, as in the mouse will occasional freeze for 1-2 seconds, I have the latest nvidia-drivers, ubuntu updates etc. My hard drives are healthy, cpu and memory not maxing out... any other ideas?
[11:40] <Ziago> unimatrix: It just tells me " * PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions "
[11:40] <unimatrix> Ziago: you're doing it wrong
[11:40] <n00p> s00p@s00p-laptop:~$ service network-manager stop          stop: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.105" (uid=1000 pid=2448 comm="stop) interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Stop" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init))
[11:40] <Ziago> unimatrix: That's after issuing sudo service pulseaudio restart
[11:40] <unimatrix> Ziago: yes that's wrong
[11:40] <n00p> any ideas about that error message?
[11:41] <Ziago> Oh. When I used /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart, it told me to use that command.
[11:41] <unimatrix> Ziago: that's wrong too
[11:41] <unimatrix> Ziago: pulseaudio doesn't run as root
[11:41] <unimatrix> Ziago: just do killall pulseaudio; pulseaudio -D
[11:42] <Ziago> Done. It says: E: main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[11:42] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi all. I can create a directory on the remote box using gftp but my boss cant vreate a directory using his ftp client on a windows machine even though he is using the same username and password i am to log into the box....anyone know why this owuld be?
[11:42] <indus> hi folks
[11:42] <waltercool> hi indus
[11:42] <unimatrix> Ziago: type pulseaudio -v
[11:42] <calrik> Hi all for some reason my ubuntu is jumpy, as in the mouse will occasional freeze for 1-2 seconds, I have the latest nvidia-drivers, ubuntu updates etc. My hard drives are healthy, cpu and memory not maxing out... any other ideas?
[11:42] <Jimi_Neutral> calrik, too hot?
[11:42] <indus> hello waltercool whats up
[11:43] <unimatrix> calrik: check dmesg for any errors
[11:43] <indus> waltercool, do i know u?
[11:43] <Ziago> It keeps saying "E: pid.c: Daemon already running." and "E: main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed."
[11:43] <student> .
[11:43] <student> ....................
[11:43] <unimatrix> Ziago: that's ok, it restarted on its own
[11:43] <Ziago> Of course, I already issued a killall pulseaudio
[11:43] <calrik> Jimi_Neutral: no everything running around avg 35 dergrees celcius
[11:43] <calrik> unimatrix: how do I check that?
[11:43] <unimatrix> Ziago: yes, when u do that it's started automatically
[11:43] <Ziago> unimatrix: Okay. Sound still isn't working =/
[11:44] <unimatrix> calrik: just type dmesg in terminal
[11:44] <waltercool> indus: I dont think so, im just replying your "hi folks"
[11:44] <unimatrix> Ziago: type killall pulseaudio; pulseaudio -v
[11:44] <unimatrix> Ziago: try it a few times until it works
[11:44] <indus> waltercool,  ok :)
[11:44] <Ziago> Okay. microphone still isn't working
[11:45] <Ziago> It worked. Now I have a terminal full of pulseaudio messages =)
[11:45] <unimatrix> Ziago: that was the point
[11:45] <unimatrix> Ziago: to see what's wrong
[11:45] <Ziago> Gotchya.
[11:45] <root51> how to update my grub in menu list
[11:46] <Ziago> Keeps saying this: "I: protocol-native.c: Connection died." when I open sound properties.
[11:46] <calrik> unimatrix: seems like my logitech g5 usb mouse is disconnecting and reconnecting alot, maybe its not getting enough power?
[11:46] <buffman> greetings to all
[11:47] <unimatrix> calrik: yes that is possible, try plugging it in a different USB port
[11:47] <buffman> Anyone got tips/links to getting a USB pinicle TV tuner going in Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[11:47] <unimatrix> Ziago: try asking the guys on #pulseaudio they might not answer immediately, so be patient, but they know their stuff
[11:48] <Ziago> Alright
[11:48] <calrik> unimatrix: awesome that fixed it thanks :)
[11:48] <unimatrix> calrik: no problem
[11:49] <waltercool> root51: update-grub?
[11:50] <ouyes> hi , can anyone recommend me a tool to play DVDs? i have a few DVD films,
[11:50] <Diverdude> An rpm package can be opened by the packet manager right?
[11:50] <ke1ha> safest way if your not familiar with grub, is to use the startup-manager.
[11:50] <iguanna> hi all
[11:50] <unimatrix> Diverdude: not in ubuntu
[11:51] <unimatrix> Diverdude: you usually need to convert it to DEB first
[11:51] <ke1ha> or you can manually edit menu.1st in /boot/grub
[11:51] <iguanna> can anyone tell me why doing scroll the text on the windows doesn't display correctly?
[11:51] <unimatrix> buffman: have you tried anything yet?
[11:52] <buffman> unimatrix, tried mythTV
[11:52] <unimatrix> buffman: did it work?
[11:52] <buffman> unimatrix, boot up messages seem to find it
[11:52] <Diverdude> unimatrix, aha, so if i want to install this package: http://ctags.sourceforge.net/
[11:52] <buffman> unimatrix, no
[11:52] <indus> why inst meebo used instead of empathy?i t has voice and video
[11:53] <unimatrix> buffman: try tvtime
[11:53] <corecode> hey
[11:53] <buffman> unimatrix, ok will do
[11:53] <corecode> what's the best way to submit a bugfix to a package?
[11:53] <corecode> i created a new version
[11:53] <corecode> should i just upload the diff.gz or something else?
[11:53] <unimatrix> Diverdude: it's usually a better idea to compile it
[11:54] <erUSUL> corecode: attach a patch to the bug in launchpad or send the bugfix directly to the program authors
[11:54] <Diverdude> unimatrix, ok, i did sudo apt-get install ctags....i hope its the same program and version
[11:54] <corecode> erUSUL: which patch?  the dpkg-generated patch?
[11:54] <buffman> unimatrix, does tvtime work for Digital tuners?
[11:54] <unimatrix> Diverdude: even better
[11:54] <himanshu_> could somebody tell me some complier / ide for c / c++ coding on ubuntu  ?
[11:55] <erUSUL> corecode: the atch to the sourcecode that fixes the bug
[11:55] <unimatrix> buffman: hmm, i'm not sure
[11:55] <erUSUL> !info anjuta | himanshu_
[11:55] <himanshu_> also please tell me , in java net beans work upon ubuntu or not?
[11:55] <Jimi_Neutral> I cant create a new dir in the apache2 dafault site fodler remotley. I have tried three diff pc's with three different ftp clients and 2 diff O/S. So i am assuming it is a permissions problem. I can create files in the /home/james though. Could someone help me with this please
[11:55] <iguanna> when a windows is moved up and down or doing scroll its content is not displayed right, why please?
[11:55] <Myrtti> ouyes: vlc is my favourite
[11:55] <corecode> erUSUL: is there a way to generate this patch?  there are ubuntu patches applied already when i use apt-get source
[11:56] <erUSUL> corecode: really dunno never played with packages. ask in #ubuntu-motu
[11:56] <erUSUL> corecode: thepatches i've done where to vanilla tarballs
[11:56] <Dravekx> is there a channel for ZEND?
[11:56] <himanshu_> is there any release of turbo c++ for ubuntu . i loved working on it.
[11:57] <unimatrix> iguanna: can you post a screenshot?
[11:57] <himanshu_> how can i install anjuta ?
[11:57] <Dravekx> anyone know how to install zend optimizer on a 64bit version of ubuntu server?
[11:57] <ouyes> Myrtti, i have smplayer,but i feel it is not very good for playing DVD,(vlc, is it open source?
[11:57] <m_fulder> is it possible to crypt/hide your IP adress or the files you're sending/reciving through a ubuntu comp. ?
[11:57] <unimatrix> himanshu_: try the Ubuntu Software Center
[11:58] <Myrtti> ouyes: of course it's open source
[11:58] <unimatrix> m_fulder: no, that is never possible, because of the way the internet works
[11:58] <erUSUL> himanshu_: xwpe is similar to tubo c++ 3.0 ;P
[11:58] <himanshu_> unimatrix , what would you recommend - code:: block or anjuta ?
[11:58] <unimatrix> himanshu_: anjuta
[11:59] <marshmallow> hallo
[11:59] <marshmallow> hallo
[11:59] <marshmallow> hallo
[11:59] <FloodBot4> marshmallow: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:59] <indus> !VLC
[11:59] <himanshu_> erUSL , how to install xwpe ?
[11:59] <Jimi_Neutral> i need to create a dir in /usr/share/apache2/default-site but the ftp client is not letting me, how would i rectify this?
[11:59] <indus> !info vlc
[11:59] <m_fulder> unimatrix : so there's no way at all to send/recive a file without my interprovider sees it?
[11:59] <marshmallow> wer ist der G?
[11:59] <unimatrix> m_fulder: that is correct
[11:59] <marshmallow> ey wer ist hier der G?
[11:59] <ke1ha> m_fulder IP address may be a tricky, but, using the ssh tunnels already encrypts the data. You can set that when your generating leys.
[12:00] <Dravekx> anyone know how to install zend optimizer on a 64bit version of ubuntu server?
[12:00] <marshmallow> Wer ist hier der Super G?
[12:00] <marshmallow> ist hier auch hans vorhanden?+
[12:00] <Myrtti> !de | marshmallow
[12:00] <marshmallow> hallo
[12:00] <marshmallow> hallo
[12:00] <spacken> ihr gays
[12:00] <unimatrix> m_fulder: what you're trying to do is essentially the same as trying to mail a letter to someone, without the post office knowing who it is for
[12:00] <marshmallow> ey spacken
[12:00] <marshmallow> sonja hartwig
[12:00] <Guest51461> you are all fucking gays
[12:00] <iguanna> unimatrix, how do i send the screenshot file?
[12:01] <Guest51461> sonja hartfick
[12:01] <unimatrix> iguanna: upload it to imageshack.us
[12:01] <marshmallow> auf wiederseheeeeeeeeeeeen
[12:01] <waltercool> marshmallow: /join   #ubuntu-de
[12:01] <marshmallow> ist hier auch der hans?
[12:01] <user01_> ihr spastis
[12:01] <marshmallow> hello????????
[12:01] <olonr1> s
[12:01] <waltercool> marshmallow: auf wuedersehen ;)
[12:01] <marshmallow> huhu?
[12:01] <waltercool> wie*
[12:01] <unimatrix> !de > marshmallow
[12:01] <olonr1> helo
[12:01] <marshmallow> wer ist waltercool?
[12:02] <olonr1> car
[12:02] <olonr1> kto z polski
[12:02] <unimatrix> !pl > olonr1
[12:02] <olonr1> no
[12:02] <olonr1> ppppaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:02] <iguanna> unimatrix, http://imagebin.ca/view/30fBxb.html
[12:03] <iguanna> unimatrix, http://imagebin.ca/view/30fBxb.html
[12:03] <himanshu_> which IDE could be best for core java programming  on ubuntu ? when i was on windows i used to write code on notepad and compile it on command prompt , otherwise used net beans .
[12:03] <iguanna> sd
[12:03] <jussi01> !code | himanshu_
[12:03] <unimatrix> iguanna: yes i see
[12:03] <iguanna> ok
[12:03] <unimatrix> iguanna: does this only happen in evolution?
[12:03] <iguanna> it is very annoy
[12:04] <iguanna> it happens everywhere
[12:04] <iguanna> some place works better than other, I mean, Hotmail works almost perfect
[12:05] <unimatrix> iguanna: hotmail in firefox?
[12:05] <Jimi_Neutral> how would i be able to create a diectory in this folder '/usr/share/apache2/default-site' using FTP. It wont do it at the moment because I am logged in as a normal user and i am guessing to create a dir in this path you need root access
[12:05] <iguanna> Jimi_Neutral, yeah
[12:05] <iguanna> Jimi_Neutral, yeah
[12:05] <Jimi_Neutral> so is it possible to configure vsftpd to allow a remote user root access?
[12:06] <zilkomaa> Hi everybody
[12:06] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi
[12:06] <unimatrix> !ask > zilkomaa
[12:06] <iguanna> perhaps if I hand the nvidia setting
[12:06] <m_fulder> unimatrix: ah ok .. well yeah that seems not possible :P..kelha : yes ssh gedo encrypt my IP ... what do you mean by generating leys? how do I do that
[12:07] <m_fulder> also kelha: can I make everything be send thourgh ssh ?
[12:07] <zilkomaa> unimatrix: ? Why do u have to act like a lamer?
[12:08] <mattgyver> Jimi_Neutral, as far as i know you either have to give them the root usn/pass or add the user to the root group
[12:08] <unimatrix> zilkomaa: ?
[12:08] <ke1ha> Jimi_Neutral: yes, but root anything, especially unsecure transfers ftp or others is really not advisable.
[12:08] <Guest1945> ciao
[12:09] <Jimi_Neutral> ke1ha, yeah i know but what my boss wants......
[12:09] <Jimi_Neutral> mattgyver, ah, how would i add them to the root group
[12:09] <filip89> hi anyone who can help me with a sound?
[12:09] <ke1ha> m_fulder ... sri typo, generating Keys, not leys. sri.
[12:09] <unimatrix> m_fulder: ssh connections are only possible with specific targets
[12:10] <unimatrix> filip89: what seems to be the problem?
[12:10] <filip89> unimatrix: it is serious
[12:10] <zilkomaa> unimatrix: Why you giving me ask / info msg? I just salute everybody when i joined.
[12:10] <filip89> after i installed new kernel, my sound stop working
[12:10] <unimatrix> !offtopic > zilkomaa
[12:11] <filip89> unimatrix: i update to new alsa, and it is not working
[12:11] <filip89> aplay -l gives me only this
[12:11] <mattgyver> Jimi_Neutral, you should just be able to create a new unix login and/or chmod the accounts group to root, i think its chmod -u username:newgroup
[12:11] <filip89> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[12:11] <unimatrix> !pastebin > filip89
[12:11] <mattgyver> Jimi_Neutral, i highly suggest disallowing root to even connect in the vsftpd.conf file
[12:12] <Jimi_Neutral> mattgyver, still new to linux...and yes I know matt but as I said, what my boss wants.....
[12:12] <ke1ha> It's actually chown for dirs, chmod for files. chown user:uer
[12:12] <unimatrix> filip89: oh that's it?
[12:12] <mattgyver> this way you dont expose the true root account, not that what the other account doesnt make it any safer :|
[12:12] <unimatrix> filip89: how did you "update" alsa?
[12:12] <filip89> from one script
[12:12] <unimatrix> filip89: what script
[12:12] <filip89> w8
[12:13] <filip89> i will try to find it
[12:13] <ke1ha> but that doesnt explain why he can't get access with the users he already has, which i dont quite understand that one yet.
[12:13] <filip89> unimatrix: exactly I compiled it
[12:13] <filip89> i download new alsa
[12:13] <unimatrix> filip89: why did you do that
[12:14] <filip89> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6589810
[12:14] <filip89> this manual.. no helpfull
[12:14] <filip89> than i tried this
[12:14] <Jimi_Neutral> so how would i add a user to the root group?
[12:14] <filip89> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578&highlight=sound+issues
[12:14] <ke1ha> Jimi_Nutral: where you sending things to and from, it is just server to server on you own internal LAN ?
[12:15] <mattgyver> Jimi_Neutral, please see my PM
[12:15] <unimatrix> filip89: but why did you do it? did you have any previous issues?
[12:15] <xguru> my computer fails to boot normally, how do i get to the grub menu for recovery?
[12:16] <Myrtti> xguru: by pressing shift, if you're running karmic
[12:16] <unimatrix> xguru: keep pressing the up or down arrow right before linux boots... grub should show up
[12:16] <unimatrix> xguru: or shit or esc... pretty much anything should work
[12:16] <filip89> but i stopped at point If you are greeted with the error "Connection failed: Connection refused", manually launch PulseAudio before opening the PulseAudio Volume Control application:
[12:16] <ke1ha> that's not to fix the problem, it's bypassing it, especially in VS. but hey ho, not my security hole.
[12:16] <xguru> unimatrix: thanks....lemme try....it just usually autoboots into linux
[12:17] <filip89> unimatrix: I have no sound after update at new kernel
[12:17] <skydrome> can someone give me their top 5 httpd servers?
[12:17] <unimatrix> filip89: that can happen, so why did you update the kernel?
[12:18] <filip89> standard update
[12:18] <aapzak> guys, what does *manually* upgradeable mean? did I screw something up by removing unwanted repos?
[12:18] <filip89> i am updating any time any update which appears
[12:18] <Myrtti> skydrome: what exactly are you asking?
[12:18] <unimatrix> filip89: do you remember which update that might have been
[12:18] <teffers|Brew> hey guys little issue stepmania src is moaning i dont have liblua installed althought i have install lua50 package why is it say it does not excist
[12:18] <filip89> yes.. update from 7.2.
[12:18] <skydrome> Myrtti, opinions on top5 httpd servers
[12:18] <farizluqman> hello
[12:19] <Myrtti> !best > skydrome
[12:19] <farizluqman> hello
[12:19] <filip89> unimatrix from kernel 2.6.28-11-generic
[12:19] <unimatrix> teffers|Brew: stepmania won't build since Ubuntu 8.10
[12:19] <filip89> sry
[12:19] <farizluqman> hello
[12:19] <skydrome> !or you can tell me
[12:19] <unimatrix> teffers|Brew: install it from playdeb
[12:19] <filip89> unimatrix: from kernel 2.6.28-17-generic to kernel 2.6.28-18-generic
[12:19] <teffers|Brew> playdeb
[12:19] <farizluqman> hello
[12:19] <farizluqman> is there anybody
[12:19] <Myrtti> skydrome: we don't really do polls here, and it's a matter of opinion anyway
[12:19] <Myrtti> farizluqman: yes
[12:19] <xguru> nope after the bios boots, it say's grub loading.... and tries to boot linux reguardless if i hit any keys after the bios
[12:19] <skydrome> errr gg
[12:20] <Myrtti> farizluqman: do you have a ubuntu support question?
[12:20] <teffers|Brew> playdeb///
[12:20] <farizluqman> hi
[12:20] <teffers|Brew> playdeb///???*
[12:20] <ke1ha> unimatrix: this audo problem's been happening for a while now, base build works, you do the dist-upg and it breaks alsa somehow, but not for all cards.
[12:20] <farizluqman> yes
[12:20] <filip89> unimatrix: but i tried compiled new alsa according that manual which i sent you for this kernel 2.6.28-18-generic and also for this one 2.6.28-16-generic
[12:20] <farizluqman> a very simple question
[12:20] <unimatrix> teffers|Brew: http://www.playdeb.net
[12:20] <farizluqman> how can I loggin as root?
[12:20] <filip89> unimatrix: it seems that is a really big problem, because my sound stop working also at win
[12:20] <Myrtti> farizluqman: you don't.
[12:21] <Myrtti> !rootsudo | farizluqman
[12:21] <filip89> farizluqman: gksu
[12:21] <unimatrix> filip89: in windows too?
[12:21] <filip89> yep
[12:21] <unimatrix> filip89: then it's quite possible a hardware issue
[12:21] <Myrtti> !my | farizluqman, also you might want to check out your local Ubuntu people
[12:21] <farizluqman> I know the sudo command, but I want to log in as root, to access the / files
[12:22] <MenZa> farizluqman: Why?
[12:22] <Myrtti> farizluqman: use sudo/gksudo for that
[12:22] <Myrtti> farizluqman: you don't need to log in as root
[12:22] <unimatrix> farizluqman: sudo su
[12:22] <MenZa> farizluqman: As Myrtti says, all can be done with sudo.
[12:22] <aapzak> anyone here who knows about manually upgradeable?
[12:22] <teffers|Brew> stepmanika isnt on p[laydeb
[12:22] <filip89> unimatrix: i tried install driver for win, installation was successful but no sound again, it shows, like i do not have a sound card
[12:22] <Myrtti> unimatrix: please don't recommend that :-(
[12:23] <unimatrix> Myrtti: well sometimes it's necessary
[12:23] <MenZa> Myrtti: That's very, very bad practice.
[12:23] <MenZa> er, unimatrix*
[12:23] <MenZa> unimatrix: No, it's not.
[12:23] <filip89> unimatrix: ok.. my sound was working for several years how can installation of kernel destroyed my hw?
[12:23] <farizluqman> sudo.. but I'm not a professional in terminal things, I like to login as root
[12:23] <MenZa> unimatrix: It's never necessary.
[12:23] <FloodBot4> MenZa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:23] <extor> I do sudo su all the time so what
[12:23] <MenZa> farizluqman: What are you trying to do?
[12:23] <MenZa> !rootsudo | extor
[12:23] <unimatrix> MenZa: from my own experience i can tell you that it is
[12:23] <ke1ha> I had to use OSS until upg to 2.6.31-19 was released to fix my ICH7 issues.
[12:23] <farizluqman> logged in as others did
[12:23] <unimatrix> filip89: you should probably contact your sound card vendor about that
[12:23] <farizluqman> How To?
[12:23] <extor> Yeah so I don't want to type sudo before each command hence sudo su
[12:23] <himanshu_> even after successful compilaion , i am unable to execute the generated onject code using Anjutu ..help me
[12:24] <MenZa> farizluqman: You're not making what sense.
[12:24] <MenZa> extor: Heard of sudo -i?
[12:24] <Myrtti> extor: you don't need to suggest it to people here, though
[12:24] <extor> Nope
[12:24] <Mike__B> hi there, after installing latest kernel update in Karmic scrolling in Gnome lead to flickering screen. Anyone can confirm? Changing back to 2.6.31-17 fixed the issue for me. Am using Nvidia.
[12:24] <Myrtti> !wfm | extor, unimatrix
[12:24] <MenZa> extor: Well, there you go. Have a look at the manpgage for the -i flag.
[12:24] <teffers|Brew> stepmanika isnt on p[laydeb
[12:24] <teffers|Brew> unimatrix, i cant find stepmania on playdeb
[12:24] <extor> sudo su dangers are overrated especially in comparison to the main user being sudo capable
[12:25] <Yos> What's a good, free newsreader for ubuntu ?
[12:25] <himanshu_> i get a message <program_name>  is not a local file
[12:25] <unimatrix> teffers|Brew: lol, really? http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/9.10/?q=stepmania
[12:25] <extor> I mean if you want security then dont HAVE the default user able to sudo
[12:25] <farizluqman> no, I want to login to root, with my password root, in the legon screen, but he says "Root cannot login in this screen" or something similar
[12:25] <MenZa> Yos: By 'newsreader' do you mean newgroups, RSS feeds?
[12:25] <MenZa> farizluqman: You should never, ever, ever, EVER log into an X session as root. EVER. EVER EVER EVER.
[12:25] <MenZa> NEVER.
[12:25] <Yos> MenZa: Yes, for newsgroups
[12:25] <ke1ha> not seeing that here Mike_B
[12:25] <unimatrix> farizluqman: that's because you should never login as root, unless you want do break something... is that your intention?
[12:25] <MenZa> Yos: Evolution is a good option. It's installed by default.
[12:26] <Mike__B> hmm.. could be laptop-related then.
[12:26] <Myrtti> farizluqman: oh, you've enabled root account? Good luck.
[12:26] <Yos> MenZa: Evolution can be use to download files from newsgroups ?
[12:26] <farizluqman> ok..ok...ok.... I'll learn Sude
[12:26] <farizluqman> sudo
[12:26] <MenZa> Yos: Should be able to, yes.
[12:26] <Myrtti> farizluqman: if there'd be a sticker on Ubuntu installation that says "damaging will void warranty" enabling root account would be that
[12:27] <ke1ha> Iv'e not had it on log, and it's an older NV embedded GPU. Dont have it on my GTX-280 box.
[12:27] <farizluqman> ooh.... logging in to root will void the warranty.... ok
[12:27] <ke1ha> oops, not had it on long.
[12:27] <MenZa> farizluqman: Well, that's the best way to describe it. We can't support that method.
[12:28] <farizluqman> Is there any "copy" command? and a "paste" command
[12:28] <indus> farizluqman, cp
[12:28] <unimatrix> farizluqman: cp
[12:28] <ke1ha> cp  & mv
[12:29] <indus> farizluqman,  and mv file1 file2 will rename file 1 as file2
[12:29] <indus> farizluqman, cp file1 file2 copies from 1 to 2 and to copy folders do cp -a
[12:29] <indus> cp -r i think
[12:29] <ke1ha> mv doe moving to diff dir's, cp or cat to move between files.
[12:30] <filip89> unimatrix: i found also one guy who has similar problem after update to a new kernel
[12:30] <farizluqman> ooo ok, if i want to copy a file, I will type "sudo cp /something(source) /mylocation"
[12:30] <ke1ha> rrr
[12:30] <farizluqman> something like that
[12:30] <ke1ha> or mv it from one dir to another
[12:30] <farizluqman> <<<< noob
[12:30] <ke1ha> cp does just that, makes a copy.
[12:31] <unimatrix> filip89: well it does happen, but if it's also a problem in windows, that usually indicates that it's not a linux problem
[12:31] <Myrtti> farizluqman: would you mind me asking what files are you copying to other locations?
[12:31] <raven> how to enable more network interfaces to monitor in the sysmon-panel-plugin?
[12:32] <ke1ha> Yeah, if it takes sudo to do it, could cause other issues :-)
[12:32] <farizluqman> ok "sudo cp /home/fariz/oxygenicon /usr/share/icons"
[12:32] <filip89> unimatrix: could kernel update destroyed hw?
[12:32] <farizluqman> its a icon theme
[12:32] <unimatrix> filip89: no
[12:33] <filip89> hm...
[12:33] <MenZa> farizluqman: Do cp -R ~/oxygenicon ~/.icons
[12:33] <farizluqman> mmyrtti: "sudo cp /home/fariz/oxygenicon /usr/share/icons"
[12:33] <Myrtti> farizluqman: you can install those without sudo or root access
[12:33] <Oyoz> my ubuntu 9.10 is rebooting on its on sometimes.does anybody know the reason why???
[12:33] <Myrtti> farizluqman: just like MenZa said
[12:34] <farizluqman> yeah, already in sudo now
[12:34] <Myrtti> Oyoz: not without more details
[12:34] <cpcall> @find twist and shout
[12:34] <farizluqman> done
[12:34] <shai27> Hello , i installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop and its seems to have some problem with the internal speaker . when i plug in my headphones Ubuntu not disable the internal speaker ?
[12:34] <farizluqman> thats easy
[12:35] <raven> sysmon-panel-plugin: how to change the network interface to monitor
[12:35] <Oyoz> it just reboots when am brousing the net
[12:35] <farizluqman> thanks
[12:36] <ke1ha> what kernel ? Oyoz ?
[12:36] <n00p> wpa_supplicant sends error messages to stderr, where can I locate those messages?
[12:36] <farizluqman> ke1ha: kernel is the filesystem of linux
[12:36] <ke1ha> yeah... good guess. but need a number?
[12:36] <MenZa> farizluqman: Er, not exactly.
[12:37] <farizluqman> hahahaha... just a guest
[12:37] <Oyoz> 2.6.31-19-generic
[12:37] <farizluqman> whats the exactly
[12:37] <n00p> does ubuntu store writes to stderr anywhere special?
[12:37] <MenZa> !kernel | farizluqman
[12:37] <farizluqman> I see, i'm using 2.5.6
[12:37] <DonLemmi> Hi there, I'd like to install an old kernel (2.6.24) under karmic. Can anyone give me a hint where i can get the appropriate package, please?
[12:37] <farizluqman> is it obsolete>>> 2.5.6
[12:38] <raven> sysmon-panel-plugin: how to change the network interface to monitor?
[12:38] <rweng> is there a way to save everything of a terminal, commands and output, to a file?
[12:38] <ke1ha> Hmm.. im on the same one, I had that a couple days ago, before the last round of updates and it's gone away.
[12:38] <coz_> hey guys... I have had this issue for the last few versions of ubuntu...systray...system clock etc   switch positions on reboot ...clock always seems to want to be first before systray ...any solutions?  yes I have "Lock to panel"  enalbed  however enabled or disabled the same thing occurs
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> Kernel i got here -> 2.6.31-19-generic
[12:38] <farizluqman> whats Karmic? (how can I stop asking silly questions, I'm interested in Ubuntu)
[12:39] <coz_> also this is dual monitor set up
[12:39] <n00p> wpa_supplicant is returning 1 and writing errors to stderr when I try to ifup eth2. Where can I obtain these error messages?
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> !karmic | farizluqman
[12:39] <ke1ha> Kinda like Karma, with an ic stuck on the end :-)
[12:39] <rweng> is there a way to save everything of a terminal, commands and output, to a file? - anyone?
[12:39] <farizluqman> oooh... I see...
[12:39] <farizluqman> my system will crash is having it
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  Huh?
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> rweng:  typescript command i seen to recall can save all in/out of a session
[12:40] <ke1ha> commands are ion your .history already .. and if you want to output a commands results, just >tosomefile.txt
[12:40] <n00p> I'd like to learn how to set up my network-manager-gnome. I've set it to manage devices in /etc/network/interfaces and added my interfaces, added a pre-up to eth0 to make sure it's the correct duplex... but the wireless returns 1 and I need to know what's going on. The script should be writing an error message to stderr, how do I view this message?
[12:41] <farizluqman> if I install Karmic, my system will sure crash, its look so beautiful and nor for the 450MHz pc, for sure
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> rweng:  at least i recall using that years ago.
[12:41] <Lint01> How to get a list of all files on my system created by package manager whose content had been changed then?
[12:41] <zleap> farizluqman, can you not install something like xubuntu or one that uses less resource hungary applications
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> rweng:  ahh - the command is 'script' it records everything in a session to a file of the type 'typescript' you can then reread later
[12:42] <zleap> there are also alternate installers, for low power (older) systems
[12:42] <n00p> I'd like to learn how to set up my network-manager-gnome. I've set it to manage devices in /etc/network/interfaces and added my interfaces, added a pre-up to eth0 to make sure it's the correct duplex... but the wireless returns 1 (and according to the preup script that could mean any number of errors) and I need to know what's going on. The script should be writing an error message to stderr, how do I view this message?
[12:42] <newguest> hi all
[12:43] <llutz> Lint01: compare file-md5sums with those of /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.md5sums
[12:43] <farizluqman> zleap: I'm using ubuntu 8.1 kernel 2.5.6...
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:   so you are using a version of ubuntu thats almost 2 years old.
[12:44] <MenZa> Dr_Willis: It's still supported until April.
[12:44] <raven> sysmon-panel-plugin: how to change the network interface to monitor?
[12:44] <MenZa> Wait, that's just the server I think.
[12:44] <farizluqman> 2 years old Ubuntu for 10 years old laptop, should be very ok
[12:44] <ke1ha> if it's not bork'en dont break it :-)
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> MenZa:   yep.. if that really means anything to anyone. :)
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  just because its older. dosent really mean its 'better' for a low end system
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  there are disrtros out there with a focus on low end/old systems
[12:45] <farizluqman> I'm looking for that
[12:45] <farizluqman> (but not fedora)
[12:45] <indus> i dont get teh point of non LTS releases , everyone upgrades to the next anyway
[12:46] <indus> if you do a poll on the forums, everyone will have 9.10 for sure
[12:46] <llutz> -1 :)
[12:46] <unimatrix> indus: LTS is great for servers
[12:46] <indus> unimatrix, yes iam talking of non LTS
[12:47] <indus> unimatrix, its useless really
[12:47] <zilkomaa> How can i get games work better on my ubuntu 9.10? Like quakelive i have 60fps wtf? how can i take vsync off there is no option for that nvidia control panel.
[12:47] <pauljw> LTS is great on my laptop too
[12:47] <indus> unimatrix, i mean the support for beyond 6 months is useless i said
[12:47] <farizluqman> indus: 9.1 is it compatible for Intel 450 Mhz?
[12:47] <farizluqman> ping
[12:47] <indus> farizluqman, 450 mhz?
[12:47] <farizluqman> indus: yes, 10 years
[12:47] <indus> farizluqman, no atleast 500 mhz i believe
[12:48] <ke1ha> I only have one box that does not have a -server install on it.
[12:48] <intok> anyone here using pidgin from the getdeb repos?
[12:48] <indus> farizluqman, do you have a system around 9 years old ?:)
[12:48] <farizluqman> indus: no, its CELERON 450MHz
[12:48] <farizluqman> indus: yes
[12:48] <indus> farizluqman, hmm, try xubuntu i suggest
[12:48] <zilkomaa> And i have 64bit ubuntu 9.10 btw.
[12:48] <ke1ha> well, 9yrs old, that's a stretch, but this dell acts like it's 9yrs old :-)
[12:48] <indus> farizluqman, but actually, the 450 mhz will work if you have enough ram
[12:49] <indus> zilkomaa, vsync should be used from the in game controls
[12:49] <farizluqman> indus: have enough ram though, I have 256
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> ive installed ubuntu on a Pent 1 - 100mhz befor.. took a few hrs.. but it ran. :)
[12:49] <farizluqman> 256MB
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> ram is never enough
[12:49] <indus> farizluqman, should work, but i suggest using 8.04
[12:49] <llutz> Dr_Willis: go, look for a hobby :)
[12:49] <farizluqman> indus: XUBUNTU 8.04?
[12:49] <indus> farizluqman, yes
[12:49] <farizluqman> indus: Ok...
[12:49] <indus> farizluqman, is your best option, but ubuntu also should work but very slow
[12:50] <indus> farizluqman, xubuntu is nice :) and light and fast
[12:50] <ke1ha> 8.04 is pretty robust after the dist-upg.
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  you could always use  just a window manager... that will bne lighter and faster.  the xubuntu even.  but more limited
[12:50] <farizluqman> indus: its using XFCE as default DWM?
[12:50] <Lint01> indus: xfce is not exactly 'light'
[12:50] <indus> farizluqman, use
[12:50] <indus> farizluqman, yes i mean
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> xfce uses  the xfwm window manager
[12:51] <indus> Lint01, not interested in the tech aspects, but yes it runs nice on older systems
[12:51] <farizluqman> indus: its a lightweight dwm, sure it will use fewer res
[12:51] <indus> Lint01, you suggest some other ?
[12:51] <indus> Lint01, flux?
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  you might want to check out the  lubuntu-desktop its supposed to be about as light as one can get. but its not got its own cd/disrto yet. You install some ubuntu, then install the lubuntu-desktop package
[12:51] <farizluqman> indus: I will wipe my ubuntu from my 8GB hd
[12:51] <llutz> indus: lxde might be an alternative
[12:51] <indus> hmm
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> 8gb. :) egads
[12:52] <indus> ok farizluqman see others are suggesting more options , so do try them
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> Tiny Core Linux, Puppy Linux, other  Uber-weird-mini linux's
[12:52] <indus> llutz, isnt that lxde thing called lubuntu?
[12:52] <llutz> indus: is it? no idea
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> !info lubuntu-desktop
[12:52] <ke1ha> DSL is real light also.
[12:53] <indus> Dr_Willis, aah no puppy changes the apps so no good
[12:53] <farizluqman> I've used damn small linux.... and WOW!! but not presistent
[12:53] <ke1ha> but this is Ubuntu, so I'd say FLux on 8.04
[12:53] <farizluqman> save changes
[12:53] <indus> why i suggest xubuntu is , most of the stuff is like gnome except no open office i believe
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  you can set that up if you wanted to
[12:53] <n00p> this channel really... well... what do you think may be causing this command to error? /sbin/wpa_supplicant -s -B -P /var/run/wpa_supplicant.eth2.pid -i eth2 -D wext -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -C /var/run/wpa_supplicant
[12:53] <cosmodad> today I resumed my machine from S2RAM and now, whenever I'm trying to play audio, the player (e.g., rhythmbox) just blocks. Any idea how to fix this? I tried restarting pulseaudio and alsa but it wouldn't help.
[12:53] <indus> so not a drastic change from managing an OS
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> FreeDos!
[12:54] <indus> !lubuntu
[12:54] <llutz> ah, no lubuntu-desktop in jaunty. that is why i never heard of it
[12:54] <indus> llutz, see ?
[12:54] <llutz> indus: yes
[12:54] <farizluqman> indus: abiword is small but a big eating system res
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> Lubuntu does some things a little.. weirdly
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  its not big.. your pc is just old... :)
[12:54] <indus> farizluqman, no not true at all. i use it, its awesome and opens in half a sec
[12:55] <llutz> indus: i only use lxde with squeeze
[12:55] <indus> llutz, ok what is that?
[12:55] <llutz> indus: debian testing
[12:55] <farizluqman> dr_willis: yes, if I'm rich I have bough one now
[12:55] <indus> okie
[12:55] <Lint01> abiword is buggy as hell, i would avoid it
[12:55] <indus> i am planning to move to kde
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  thers rich then theres stingy...
[12:55] <indus> i can only puke so many times in  a year :D
[12:55] <llutz>  me likes KDE since 0.6.xx
[12:55] <indus> Lint01, i think newer versions are ok
[12:56] <ke1ha> Good luck with that move.
[12:56] <farizluqman> and I'll never install Windows
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> The kde4 beta ive been testing has had some neat features I will admit
[12:56] <indus> Lint01, but really havent followed its development much
[12:56] <indus> what is the full form of IRC?
[12:56] <Lint01> internet relay chat
[12:56] <indus> ok you are hired :P
[12:57] <llutz> Dr_Willis: every DE has its pro and cons, at least you will get a usable system with all of them
[12:57] <farizluqman> You guys are using IRC? me XChat
[12:57] <indus> farizluqman, so go and install lubuntu maybe or try xubuntu
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> llutz:  I hear that twm is getting updated :)
[12:57] <indus> farizluqman, irc is a protocol, xchat is a client using it
[12:57] <llutz> Dr_Willis: whow, must have
[12:58] <MenZa> !ot| farizluqman
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> llutz:  i think its gettting compositing support even
[12:58] <indus> yes all are off topic now
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  xchat is an IRC client
[12:58] <farizluqman> oooo......
[12:58] <noel_> Can anyone help me how to assemble assembly language with GAS
[12:58] <farizluqman> <<< noob
[12:58] <llutz> Dr_Willis: strange things are going on. i really wonder: who needs/uses that?
[12:58] <farizluqman> ubottu: ok
[12:58] <Rush3d> Is there any way to run Batch (.bat) Files in Ubuntu 8.04?
[12:59] <indus> farizluqman, dont you have to install somethings? why are you still here? :)
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> llutz:  no idea. but i noticed some of the vncserver packages still used to default to 'twm' but dident have twm as a dependency
[12:59] <farizluqman> ubottu: I already know
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  you mean DOS batch files?
[12:59] <llutz> Rush3d: dosemu
[12:59] <Rush3d> Dr_willis: Yes
[12:59] <farizluqman> ubottu: And, I also know that
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  theres dos emulators out. doxbox and a few others
[12:59] <llutz> err dosbox now
[12:59] <farizluqman> indus: I'm downloading XUBUNTU...
[12:59] <Rush3d> Ok, because im a java coder, and .bat files are the way to run java code
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  you are confused I think
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  java -jar whatever.jar
[13:00] <Rush3d> I am?
[13:00] <indus> farizluqman, ok good luck
[13:00] <Lint01> Rush3d: sh ./file.bat ?
[13:00] <llutz> Rush3d: just make a script to run your code, chmod +x it and you have a "batch" file
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  whats your .bat file doing anyway?
[13:00] <noel_> How to use GAS(GNU assembler)?
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  You are making a 'script' thats saveing you some typing
[13:00] <Rush3d> Dr_willis: It opens a jar file, so I dont have to jar all my codes every time I edit.
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  You are not going to run 'dos' batch files in dosbox to launch java programs
[13:01] <Rush3d> Dr, I use C++ its basically based of a MMORPG game.
[13:01] <noel_> I need help with GAS pls
[13:01] <Rush3d> Give me one second, Ill give you one of my bat files on pastebin.
[13:02] <emx> where is the file containing the network setup?
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  if you want to script the opening of several files.. make a bash script that launches the proper commands, or an alias
[13:02] <Rush3d> Dr willis: http://pastebin.com/m23f4b7ee
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  or somthing like  'geany file1 file12 fule3'
[13:03] <Rush3d> Well, is there any way to
[13:03] <Rush3d> open a bat file?
[13:03]  * indus assumes Dr_Willis is a dos expert
[13:03]  * indus sorry DOS
[13:03] <Rush3d> I think indus is right.
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  you WRITE a shell script that does the command you need to do
[13:03] <Rush3d> hmm.
[13:03]  * indus respells in caps DOS
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  all that  pastebin semeed to do was save you some typing
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> dos and linux sysntax are different
[13:04] <Rush3d> Yes, it transfers the *.java into *.class files
[13:04] <Rush3d> A.K.A compile
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  then find the proper linux command to do the same task and make a shell script or alias out of it
[13:04] <Rush3d> Dr_willis: Ok.
[13:04] <vicente> Hi
[13:04] <Dr_Willis>  the fact you are using  the windows command line is not  making it 'dos running the command'
[13:05] <himanshu_> hello
[13:06] <grind> hey guys
[13:06] <himanshu_> hey grind
[13:07] <grind> got a little issue with line in => line out on 9.10
[13:07] <grind> audio
[13:07] <grind> input is set to "line in" and the level shows activity but i cannot get that sound to pipe out the audio out (to my stezza)
[13:07] <grind> any idea's?
[13:08] <Ziber> Whats the best way to keep a set of a files completely in sync with each other on two different servers?
[13:08] <grind> sounds on the computer still play through output
[13:09] <unimatrix> Ziber: the simplest way would be Dropbox or Ubuntu One
[13:09] <Ziber> neither heard of either of those... :o
[13:09] <vicente> I have a problem with the debs packages. I tried to instal a package from internet and it was broken. Cause of that, currently I can not install, remove or update my packages. Apt, synaptic and so ones are useless. All them show errors like "E: The package 3dxware needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.". I already tried to do apt-get install -f, apt-get remove -f,
[13:09] <vicente>  dpkg -r 3dxware, dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq 3dxware but no luck. I'm out of ideas, what can I do?
[13:10] <grind> Ziber: rsync
[13:10] <Ziber> grind: doesnt do images
[13:10] <unimatrix> Ziber: rsync in a cron script if you want to go advanced
[13:10] <Ziber> well yes, i do want to cron it, but rsync wont do images
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> thers that Unison program also
[13:11] <llutz> Ziber: lsyncd
[13:11] <grind> ziber: as in iso's?
[13:11] <Ziber> grind: no. .jpg's
[13:11] <grind> ziber: of course rsync will do jpgs
[13:12] <Ziber> Didnt seem to... :o
[13:12] <llutz> Ziber: http://code.google.com/p/lsyncd/
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> be sort of odd if it cant do pure 'data' files
[13:12] <emx> i have a pc with ubuntu installed without network. how can i install a package that "cannot be authenticated"?
[13:12] <grind> anyone good with 9.10 audio?
[13:13] <llutz> emx: just install it
[13:13] <erUSUL> vicente: do you have the problematic deb around around?
[13:13] <emx> llutz: it wants to connect to http.us.debian.org
[13:13] <llutz> emx: but don't cry if it brakes something
[13:14]  * grind needs help with input to output audio
[13:14] <emx> llutz: actually i would be happy. then i could role with gentoo.
[13:15] <uque> hola
[13:15] <n00p> guys here's all the info I can give you, I don't know why you haven't asked enough questions so far... anyone got any ideas why my wireless isn't working? logs, files, if there's anything missing let me know please... ---> http://pastebin.org/88215
[13:15] <uque> hola
[13:15] <uque> hola
[13:15] <aprilhare> hello. i'm trying to run alien arena (the version from getdeb) and i get the following error: "AL lib: oss.c:179: Could not open /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" - anyone have any ideas how to get past that?
[13:16] <erUSUL> !es | uque
[13:16] <grind> Anyone good with PULSEAUDIO ?
[13:16] <filip89> grind: what is your problem?
[13:16] <n00p> grind: I bet #ubuntu-offtopic is good with pulseaudio!
[13:17] <zaemis> good morning. :)
[13:17] <erUSUL> aprilhare: launch it like this « padsp alienarena »
[13:17] <emx> where do i have to save a package to "apt-get" it?
[13:17] <grind> filip89: playing audio into "input" shows level activity but cannot get the sound to pipe through to "output"
[13:17] <erUSUL> emx: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[13:17] <emx> erUSUL: thank you
[13:17] <llutz> emx: install local deb with dpkg
[13:18] <n00p> why is it when I ask a question and take all the time to paste every little piece of information that I see relevant to a pastebin or write every piece of info down nobody bothers to read it?  and they get all the attention in the world!
[13:18] <aprilhare> erUSUL: that made a difference - but it's still not running. get the same errors as before except the one i quoted earlier isn't there. "bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)"
[13:18] <emx> llutz: what do you mean by "local deb"?
[13:18] <llutz> emx: a file.deb already downloaded to your disk
[13:18] <grind> no one likes a cry baby n00p
[13:19] <emx> llutz: i see. thank you.
[13:19] <vicente> erUSUL, around around?
[13:19] <n00p> grind: yeh, I was ashamed of crying when I was 15.
[13:20] <grind> fail
[13:20] <n00p> what more can I say? chicks dig the sensitive guys
[13:20] <grind> the wrong chicks do ;)
[13:20] <erUSUL> vicente: sorry typed it twice
[13:20] <n00p> heh, I'll say. When was the last time you passed an exam with your "anyone know about MATHEMATICS?" and common usage of the phrase "fail"?
[13:21] <jussi01> !ot | n00p
[13:21] <grind> but what ever floats your boat mate
[13:21] <n00p> jussi01: can you help me?
[13:21] <zaemis> question: How do I change the boot up progress screen? I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10, and the 9.10 brown looks like puke to me. I'd much prefer the richer brown color in 9.04
[13:21] <vicente> erUSUL, yes, i have it.
[13:21] <n00p> jussi01 here's all the info I can give you, I don't know why you haven't asked enough questions so far... anyone got any ideas why my wireless isn't working? logs, files, if there's anything missing let me know please... ---> http://pastebin.org/88215
[13:21] <farizluqman> just downloaded Xubuntu iso
[13:21] <filip89> after update to new kernel 2.6.28-18-generic i lost sound
[13:21] <farizluqman> wow how fast
[13:21] <filip89> also not working at win
[13:21] <darthsitius> Is there any open source media(a/v) converter for Ubuntu?
[13:21] <llutz> darthsitius: ffmpeg, mencoder
[13:21] <vicente> erUSUL, url by pm
[13:22] <darthsitius> llutz : does it have a GUI?
[13:22] <jussi01> n00p: sorry, Ive no idea with wpa stuff
[13:22] <Ziber> How can I make a crontab run every hour?
[13:22] <llutz> darthsitius: no idea
[13:22] <llutz> Ziber: @hourly
[13:22] <erUSUL> aprilhare: then i really dunno see here maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1290700
[13:22] <grind> fyi n00p, rather than spamming the channel with a bible of my audio problems thought id ask out for pulase audio experts, as not many people are down with the audio. heh
[13:22] <Pici> Ziber: 0 * * * * yourscript
[13:22] <farizluqman> n00p: WPA... ask me
[13:22] <n00p> jussi01: right, so really you're just a pawn who wields the !ot command as a defense for your ego...
[13:22] <llutz> Ziber: or "0 * * * * cmd"
[13:23] <erUSUL> vicente: i do not need it. you need it becouse E: The package 3dxware needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for  it.
[13:23] <jussi01> n00p: no, Im an op who's responsibility it is to keep this channel running spmoothly :)
[13:23] <erUSUL> vicente: dpkg can not find it
[13:23] <farizluqman> FreeNode
[13:23] <grind> n00p > /dev/null
[13:23] <erUSUL> vicente: so redownload and try to reinstall reconfigure
[13:23] <Ziago> I was directed to #pulseaudio, but over the course of 2 hours, I am still not getting any help there =/ Can anyone here help me resolve this PulseAudio issue?
[13:23] <Pici> grind: please ignore him.
[13:23] <indus> i wonder why xchat isnt installed by default
[13:24] <grind> rgr pici
[13:24] <vicente> erUSUL, ok, but the package is broken...
[13:24] <grind> ziago: thanks for the chan
[13:24] <Pici> indus: Because we generally only isntall 1 package for a task by default, and empathy was chosen instead.
[13:24] <newguest> is there a command to convert a rpm installation file to a deb file? I'm running out of ideas and google does not help me with this...
[13:24] <Pici> !alien | newguest
[13:24] <erUSUL> !rpm | newguest
[13:25] <coz_> newguest,   you will need to install alien  I believe
[13:25] <zaemis> guess not. Thanks anyway though.
[13:25] <indus> Pici, no , for irc xchat is better isnt it
[13:25] <coz_> newguest, http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/09/23/installing-using-an-rpm-file/
[13:25] <indus> Pici, and irc is so important in the linux world
[13:25] <mawst> darthsitius, Avidemux
[13:25] <indus> Pici, iam sure they will add it someday soon,
[13:26] <n00p> mount -t tmpfs tmpfs /crap && mv grind /crap/ && umount -f /crap
[13:26] <darthsitius> mawst, k ill chk it out
[13:26] <coz_> newguest,  I am not sure it is always successful   however what pacakge are you trying toconvert???
[13:27] <coz_> newguest,  the package you are trying to convert may already be in deb format
[13:27] <indus> n00p, so you have a problem with pulseaudio?
[13:27] <vicente> erUSUL, I've tried sudo dpkg -i fullfilename and it, again, broken at the end. Then I've tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure 3dxware but it tells me that that package is not installed.
[13:27] <mawst> darthsitius, and if you need to make video files int o dvds, DeVeDe
[13:27] <n00p> no indus
[13:27] <indus> oh wireless
[13:28] <darthsitius> mawst: cool thx a lot
[13:28] <n00p> yes indus
[13:28] <newguest> coz_, if your running an operating system with support for ONE format, it means that you should be able to convert and run as the native format
[13:28] <filip89> glid what was your problem?
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> not installed by default = the cd can only hold so much :)
[13:28] <dariorossini> why windows is still better then linux?
[13:28] <filip89> i have problem also with my sound
[13:28] <filip89> but... i cannot hear any sound..
[13:28] <newguest> coz_, perhaps there is some library that just works.
[13:28] <coz_> newguest,  understood however   the pacakge you are trying to convert may already be in deb format ...what is the pacakge
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> dariorossini:  take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:29] <Ziago> filip89: My sound is broken also =)
[13:29] <coz_> newguest,  no library alone that I know of  you will need to use alien to convert the package
[13:29] <filip89> Ziago: mine is after update to new kernel, and yours?
[13:29] <Ziago> Nope.
[13:29] <Ziago> Not interested in installing a newer kernel.
[13:29] <moonpup> do sftp connections show up as a login under lastlog ?
[13:30] <Ziago> errors are apparently related to pulseaudio
[13:32] <butler> Hey all, could anyone give me a hand to resize my mdadm raid. ive added the disks and sync'ed them. but cant resize the partition. :D
[13:34] <dbluefield> hey peeps
[13:34] <knxville> Why can't I run VirtualBox? It gives me this message when I try to run it: Could not load the settings file '/home/knoxville/.VirtualBox/VirtualBox.xml'.
[13:34] <ugn4v> whats up
[13:35] <dbluefield> anybody here to help a newb?
[13:35] <llutz> knxville: "ls -l /home/knoxville/.VirtualBox/VirtualBox.xml"
[13:35] <llutz> knxville: "ls -ld /home/knoxville/.VirtualBox/"
[13:35] <darthsitius> knxville: is the file existing in that location?
[13:35] <knxville> darthsitius, yes
[13:35] <knxville> llutz, the file is there..
[13:35] <dbluefield> Im running ubuntu after a partitioned dual boot install -- it killed my DVI
[13:36] <llutz> knxville: owner/group?
[13:36] <knxville> llutz, trying to change the rights atm
[13:36] <newguest> coz_, I understand when you say there is no support to the software alien itself. however, what's your point when you say it's not safe? what do you mean, is it that dangerous because....?
[13:36] <knxville> llutz, didnt work.. it still gives me: Could not load the settings file '/home/knoxville/.VirtualBox/VirtualBox.xml'.
[13:36] <knxville> Cannot convert settings from version '1.9-linux'.
[13:36] <knxville> The source version is not supported.
[13:36] <llutz> knxville: why don't you provide us with the info needed to help?
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> newguest:  it could break your system
[13:37] <darthsitius> knxville: yeah, just paste the output
[13:37] <dbluefield> are monitor drivers a common problem?
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> dbluefield:  cant say that ive ever used monitor drivers at all  in linux.
[13:38] <coz_> newguest,  I didnt say it wasnt safe or dangerous  I am saying that the pacakge you want to convert from rpm to deb may already be in deb format
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> dbluefield:  my dvi connections alway work fine for me
[13:38] <coz_> newguest,  I cant guarantee that conversion with alien will work  but it is there if you want to use it instead of searching for the pacakge in deb format
[13:39] <dbluefield> well my DVI worked for a little while - then I tried a different visual effect setting - and Kabloooey - not digital output
[13:39] <dbluefield> its an old ATI radeon graphics card 7200
[13:39] <n00p> what's the latest kernel for 9.10?
[13:40] <dbluefield> I'm pretty amazed I got the dual boot thing to work --which is cool
[13:40] <Lint01> what is ubuntu repository url?
[13:40] <coz_> newguest,  I have been with ubuntu from the beginning.. I have converted rpm package to deb  and some work some dont... I prefer to find the pacakge in deb format.. and even then.,.. if it is not supported  on ubuntu or created for ubuntu  there is always a change it will not work or worse screw things up
[13:41] <llutz> knxville: recreate your VMs  with the new version
[13:41] <coz_> newguest,  I am not saying  don't experiment  ...
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> Linux server 2.6.31-19-generic #56-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 28 02:39:34 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:41] <Pici> n00p: <IP_ADDRESS>.32 from karmic-updates
[13:41] <dbluefield> the weird thing is that my XP dvi is busted too
[13:42] <knxville> llutz, recreate my VMs? So I have to reinstall 8 Operating Systems? :)
[13:42] <llutz> knxville: why? the images are fine, just the seting-files have to be recreated
[13:42] <knxville> llutz, so I can delete the VirtualBox.xml file and it will create a new one?
[13:43] <llutz> knxville: but maybe ask at #vbox, the might have a better solution
[13:43] <mawst> keep a backup jic
[13:43] <llutz> knxville: try with renameing that file 1st
[13:43] <knxville> llutz,  thanks alot
[13:43] <KaiForce> If dual booting, install Windows first, then Ubuntu?
[13:44] <llutz> KaiForce: makes it easier, yes
[13:44] <Jimi_Neutral> hi llutz hope you are well
[13:44] <KaiForce> thought so.  Thanks llutz
[13:44] <dbluefield> thats what I did -- I guess sound and picture problems are normal?
[13:45] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: hi, what's boss' order today? ;)
[13:46] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, lol, to set up an ftp server and allow him root access cause he doesnt want to put the website in the normal place that it shoudl be
[13:46] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: autsch
[13:47] <hyperstream> why is it my Laptop, when connecting to my main ubuntu box, when ever i try to double click the workgroup folder/directory/name i get prompted for a friggen password, yet the windows boxes here are fine and dandy... Its just this laptop, and i use the same account credentials for the server and this laptop, all pc's are in the same work group. the password fails. seems mainly to fail logging into this WorkGroup folder
[13:47] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, whats that mean?
[13:47] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: sorry, "that hurts"
[13:48] <KaiForce> i looked it up - "ouch!"
[13:48] <KaiForce> i'll have to use that in mixed company
[13:48] <llutz> ^ right
[13:48] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, ah i see, yes it does but i sorted it with the help of mattguyver
[13:52] <plumpskunk> hi! I have a problem with my usb printer and ubuntu/karmic. Whenever I print something, it needs like 20min to send it to the printer (doesnt matter if 500kb or 5mb file), the printer shows the "receive data" sign. It's working, but thats too slow. Kyocera FS-820
[13:52] <indus> bad drivers
[13:52] <llutz> plumpskunk: alternate drivers available? try them
[13:52] <indus> plumpskunk, does kyocera provide drivers?
[13:52] <plumpskunk> which drivers to use
[13:53] <alexxio> hi
[13:53] <plumpskunk> I read, this printer is perfect with ubuntu
[13:53] <llutz> plumpskunk: look at linuxprinting.org what they recommend
[13:53] <alexxio> i fresh partitioned my pc
[13:54] <Ziago> It's just irritating about this PulseAudio business.
[13:54] <alexxio> then i installed windows, then ubuntu and then mandriva. then i decided to use windows7 so i reinstalled it. now mandriva and window goes, but grub recognizes only windows and mandriva
[13:54] <Ziago> Every person I have spoken IRL that has used Ubuntu has had _some_ problem with PulseAudio
[13:55] <Ziago> myself included. The sources are slopped, there's no PPA
[13:55] <alexxio> there is no way to use ubuntu and now i'm on an ubuntu live cd, gparted say there is no space allocated on my /dev/sda
[13:55] <Ziago> And it's broken.
[13:55] <Ziago> Not even an INSTALL document in the tarball I downloaded
[13:55] <plumpskunk> llutz: it says: BW laser printer, max. 1800x600 dpi, works Perfectly
[13:55] <plumpskunk> but not which driver to use
[13:55] <rossouwap> has anybody got an Olivetti d-Colour MF201 to work with Ubuntu?
[13:56] <miniBill> My Xorg server refuses to work. Tried reinstalling the kernel package and restarting but didn't succed. modprobe nvidia says module not found
[13:56] <miniBill> pliz :(
[13:57] <knxville> How do I add home folder to desktop?
[13:57] <cicloner> hi
[13:57] <llutz> plumpskunk: at the end of that site, follow the link "related website" and try the ppd provided there
[13:57] <alexxio> nobody for me?
[13:58] <Ziago> <== gives up; is going back to Windows.
[13:58] <miniBill> knxville: drag it with RMB and select create link?
[13:58] <miniBill> Ziago: what's your problem
[13:59] <Ziago> Microphone keeps dying.
[13:59] <cicloner> i want to config my wireless card "zydas" for work in master mode (access point), and with the originals drivers didn't work, but i hace downloaded de correct drivers from subversion , how can i make the drivers work?? i have to compile anything?
[14:00] <miniBill> Ziago: aww, I guess I can't help then :)
[14:00] <Ziago> Just a sec
[14:00] <miniBill> cicloner: what form the drivers came into?
[14:00] <cicloner> wait
[14:00] <cicloner> from svn
[14:00] <cicloner> svn co https://zd1211.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/zd1211 zd1211

[14:01] <miniBill> cicloner: is there a README file?
[14:01] <miniBill> cicloner: if yes, did you READ it?
[14:02] <cicloner> ok , i go to read .. :)
[14:02] <miniBill> :|
[14:02] <miniBill> brb
[14:03] <cicloner> i only see a "Makefile"
[14:03] <atlef> !best
[14:04] <plumpskunk> llutz: nice thankyou! I tested the ppd-file from this page, and this works better than before.
[14:04] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, i am so mad
[14:04] <llutz> plumpskunk: fine
[14:05] <cicloner> i want to config my wireless card "zydas" for work in master mode (access point), and with the originals drivers didn't work, but i hace downloaded de correct drivers from subversion , how can i make the drivers work?? i have to compile anything?
[14:05] <cicloner> i can't see any readme file
[14:06]  * alexxio
[14:06] <hyperstream> why is it my Laptop, when connecting to my main ubuntu box, when ever i try to double click the workgroup folder/directory/name i get prompted for a friggen password, yet the windows boxes here are fine and dandy... Its just this laptop, and i use the same account credentials for the server and this laptop, all pc's are in the same work group. the password fails. seems mainly to fail logging into this WorkGroup folder
[14:07] <xza> witam
[14:07] <xza> ntpd nie synchronizuje mi czasu
[14:07] <xza> już nie mam pojęcia co zrobić
[14:07] <llutz> !pl | xza
[14:07] <xza> ubuntulog, ok
[14:07] <alexxio> can anyone help me?
[14:08] <stagka> hello
[14:08] <jiohdi> alexxio: help you do what?
[14:08] <stagka> how to get info about pc architecture ?
[14:09] <alexxio> i fresh partitioned my pc, then i installed windows, then ubuntu and then mandriva. then i decided to use windows7 so i reinstalled it. now mandriva and window goes, but grub recognizes only windows and mandriva...there is no way to use ubuntu and now i'm on an ubuntu live cd, gparted say there is no space allocated on my /dev/sda
[14:09] <FoolsRun> Hi. I'm rsyncing a 1TB USB drive to another 1TB drive so that I can reconfigure RAID on the first one and then copy back --I keep getting "sb 2-4: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5"  in my dmesg log, but the rsync seems to be going fine. Is this cause for concern?
[14:13] <FoolsRun> maybe?
[14:13] <Myrtti> FoolsRun: not necessarily
[14:14] <FoolsRun> Myrtti: are there particular circumstances I would or woulnd't worry about?
[14:14] <atlef> stagka: dpkg --print-architecture in a terminal
[14:14] <cicloner> i want to config my wireless card "zydas" for work in master mode (access point), and with the originals drivers didn't work, but i hace downloaded de correct drivers from subversion , how can i make the drivers work?? i have to compile anything?
[14:15] <Myrtti> FoolsRun: I really wouldn't worry until there's i/o errors in the logs or you can point out yourself with md5sum etc that the files are corrupt
[14:15] <atlef> stagka: or just arch in a terminal
[14:16] <FoolsRun> Myrtti: alright, cool. I found some stuff on the forums about changing my mount settings to try to clear it --I'll try that once this incredibly long rsync process is done. Thanks for calming my fears.
[14:17] <stagka> atlef: i get different results with first i368 and second 638
[14:17] <atlef> then you have the 32 bit version
[14:18] <atlef> running on the x86 kernel
[14:18] <Myrtti> FoolsRun: you can always stop it and restart it with -u
[14:19] <Myrtti> FoolsRun: then you can continue it from where you left off
[14:19] <emx> in a compilation i need gd.h. where is this file contained in?
[14:19] <Seppoz> hio, where are the ssl cource files located in ubunto (apt-get install libssl-dev)
[14:19] <Myrtti> FoolsRun: given it's multiple small files, I've not tried it with big ones
[14:19] <Seppoz> *source
[14:20] <FoolsRun> Myrtti: it's media files. I'm fine waiting. I'll spot-check some of the video before wiping the source drive
[14:21] <jrib> Seppoz: dpkg -l PACKAGE, but why?
[14:21] <jrib> Seppoz: dpkg -L PACKAGE, but why?
[14:21] <Myrtti> Sergeant_Pony: that's not how you get the source files
[14:21] <Myrtti> meh
[14:21] <Myrtti> Seppoz: that's not how you get the source files
[14:22] <Myrtti> Seppoz: that's how you get the development headers
[14:22] <cicloner> i want to config my wireless card "zydas" for work in master mode (access point), and with the originals drivers didn't work, but i hace downloaded de correct drivers from subversion , how can i make the drivers work?? i have to compile anything?
[14:22] <Myrtti> Sergeant_Pony: sorry about that, mishap with tabcomplete
[14:23] <Seppoz> jrib need them to cross compile something with ssl support
[14:24] <evantandersen> hey does anyone here know anything about pam-script and pam modules in general? I'm having a weird problem getting it to work.
[14:25] <evantandersen> i wrote a script for my auth, and it returns a 1 or a 0 correctly when I execute it manually, however when I go to use sudo, the script is ignored and access is granted instantly
[14:27] <drellok> evantandersen, I think it would be helpful if you paste script contents and the commands to run the script
[14:28] <evantandersen> drellok: i posted it on the forums.... no one replied. Look here for more info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1401277
[14:28] <evantandersen> as i said, if I cd in to the dir and execute the script it will work and return either a 1 or a 0
[14:30] <allmo> i think a kernl update has broken my ipv6
[14:30] <alazyworkaholic> I rented a DVD. Due changed circumstances I no longer have time to watch the movie I paid for before having to return it. What's the best/easiest way to get something like an ISO image off, (even if it has typical copy protection) so I can watch it on my computer later?
[14:30] <allmo> it works but it doesnt..
[14:31] <evantandersen> handbrake will the rip the dvd to a format of your choice
[14:31] <Favorit> hmmz
[14:31] <evantandersen> aka ffmpeg, divx whatever you want....
[14:31] <Favorit> if i screwed up sudoers...
[14:32] <evantandersen> and now you can't sudo to fix it?
[14:32] <Favorit> there's no way I'll be able to correct it?
[14:32] <Favorit> exactly :)
[14:32] <evantandersen> live cd
[14:32] <llutz> Favorit: livecd
[14:32] <Seppoz> so i still didnt find the ssl headers
[14:32] <evantandersen> boot in and fix it, you have root access without
[14:32] <Favorit> yeah, that would be a problem, the server is about 7500 km away from me :)
[14:32] <evantandersen> oh
[14:33] <Favorit> stupid, typoed one word by twisting letters :)
[14:33] <llutz> Favorit: have a nice trip :)
[14:33] <evantandersen> Favorit: you weren't using visudo?
[14:34] <inveratulo> this is why you have another shell logged in as root when you mess around with privs just in case you break it
[14:34] <Favorit> evantandersen: hmm, no I think this time right not.. but I guess I need to dig all my screens, there should be a shell somewhere :)
[14:35] <evantandersen> Favorit: are their any drives attached to your server? could you get some1 to buy a usb stick and put it in the back?
[14:35] <_21h_> hi all. ubuntu server 9.10 offers virtual machines hosting out of the box. where i can read more about this?
[14:37] <inveratulo> I think you're looking for KVM https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[14:38] <_21h_> thanks
[14:40] <The_Pacifist> Who here plays Starcraft on Ubuntu?!
[14:40] <evantandersen> i
[14:40] <shishirdwivedi20> how to do audio chat using pidgin?
[14:40] <shishirdwivedi20> plz hel
[14:40] <shishirdwivedi20> *help
[14:41] <Seppoz> really noboy knows location of ssl source in ubuntu?
[14:41] <The_Pacifist> Anyone use Iccup launcher on ubuntu?
[14:41] <syn-ack> Seppoz: it's in the repos...
[14:41] <The_Pacifist> Starcraft iccup launcher*
[14:41] <FoolsRun> The_Pacifist: Starcraft reports as playable at winehq:  http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=72
[14:41] <syn-ack> !source | Seppoz
[14:41] <llutz> Seppoz: /usr/src
[14:41] <Seppoz> say-ack, explain plz.. i installed libssl-dev already
[14:42] <The_Pacifist> FoolsRun: I know I can get Starcraft working but not the Iccup launcher
[14:42] <evantandersen> yeah, that's how I play.... don't know what you're talking about
[14:42] <llutz> Seppoz: -dev aren't sources
[14:42] <syn-ack> Seppoz: the dev package isnt source it's headers
[14:42] <Seppoz> oh
[14:42] <llutz> Seppoz: it's dev-files
[14:42] <llutz> Seppoz: apt-get source libssl.....
[14:42] <Seppoz> thx
[14:42] <evantandersen> whats the iccup launcher/why do you need it?
[14:42] <The_Pacifist> do you play on B-net?
[14:42] <evantandersen> no
[14:42] <evantandersen> oh
[14:42] <shishirdwivedi20> hey help me in pidgin
[14:43] <The_Pacifist> lol
[14:43] <shishirdwivedi20> how to do voice chat on pidgin?
[14:43] <evantandersen> i don't think you can audio/video chat in pidgin yet
[14:43] <shishirdwivedi20> i am new user
[14:43] <evantandersen> although skype is free for linux
[14:43] <FoolsRun> The_Pacifist: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14914   iccup reports as working, too
[14:43] <Duskin> You can audio chat with a plugin, but no video
[14:43] <shishirdwivedi20> ok
[14:43] <shishirdwivedi20> which plugin
[14:43] <atlef> shishirdwivedi20: i think kopete supports this
[14:43] <shishirdwivedi20> ?
[14:43] <iceroot> evantandersen: skype is not free
[14:43] <shishirdwivedi20> ok
[14:44] <syn-ack> iceroot: free as in no cost.
[14:44] <llutz> free of charge, but not free
[14:44] <shishirdwivedi20> let me try
[14:44] <Duskin> Iceroot: skype is free for skype to skype calls
[14:44] <syn-ack> Which it is for computer to computer calls
[14:44] <atlef> !kopete | shishirdwivedi20
[14:44] <FoolsRun> Free as far as most people are concerned
[14:44] <iceroot> Duskin: syn-ack free = freedom
[14:44] <syn-ack> No it doesnt and lets not get into this discussion
[14:44] <_21h_> shishirdwivedi20, typicaly gamers uses something more specialized
[14:44] <_21h_> like teamspeak
[14:44] <FoolsRun> iceroot: almost nobody asking about voice chat cares about that
[14:44] <shishirdwivedi20> ok
[14:44] <tuxnani> i have got some problem configuring ip address settings
[14:45] <llutz> syn-ack: on a opensource-related channel "free" might have a special meaning
[14:45] <iceroot> FoolsRun: voicechat is working with the new messenger (dont know the name) so no need for non-free software
[14:45] <The_Pacifist> FoolsRun: Thanks dude I'll look ti up
[14:45] <FoolsRun> I did not intend that to rhyme
[14:45] <syn-ack> iceroot: Please leave the zealotry at the door.
[14:45] <Duskin> Iceroot: you can find clients that are open-source
[14:45] <tuxnani> 've got some problem in ubuntu 9.04 there is osme problem configuring network settings manually the method of writing in /etc/network/interfaces is not working out in GUI mode if am trying to set IP address statically the apply button is disabled