[02:34] <Jargon> so i'm trying the live CD right, I have 3 sound cards
[02:34] <Jargon> how do i select which soundcard programs use?
[02:34] <holycow> why not just run 32 bit ubuntu instead?
[02:34] <pord> i can get 64bit working fine but I only ever have issues with my Ati cards :S damn nightmare :P
[02:34] <dooglus> !skype
[02:34] <ubotu> I heard skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:34] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: green.
[02:34] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: and some of the are red
[02:34] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, then everyone is fine! you are connected
[02:34] <Octane> LOL my friend is cursing me out for suggesting to change to windows
[02:34] <bmk789> pupil!
[02:35] <xandor> Octane, he's a good man.
[02:35] <xandor> Listen to him.
[02:35] <Jargon> anyone have any ideas?
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, put ya mouse over the red or green ... they will tell you the problem
[02:35] <bmk789> pupil: come to #wlan, i think i know how to fix your wireless
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> green is fine ... mine all green :P
[02:35] <pord> tbh i dual boot as when i go to lans etc i like windows for the games to run fine :D
[02:35] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: yes and no. because even i`m connected to 30 seeders for like 1 houre, i haven`t downloaded 1 k by now
[02:35] <holycow> Octane, well with windows at least you can use the ms genuine advantage program
[02:35] <xandor> Sorry, Jargon.
[02:35] <holycow> that doesn't EVEN work on linux
[02:35] <Octane> holycow: LOL
[02:35] <Jargon> cant be too difficult...in SuSE you simply change the alsa mixer
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, then they are not seeding well ... their upload must be shit ... its normal ...  i got a few torrents like that before
[02:36] <xandor> Yeah, but I've only been using Ubuntu for 2 days now.
[02:36] <xandor> Before that I had SuSe.
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> xandor, suse 10 ?
[02:36] <corza> hiya, i used a 386 installation cd but i want to upgrade it to amd64 (my cpu) how would i go about doing this?
[02:36] <xandor> 9.2..... :(
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> xandor, suse 9+ is very good ... why ?
[02:37] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: i know ur now gonna like this, but i have to say it: it works damn fine from widows :((
[02:37] <xandor> 9.2 is just behind is all.
[02:37] <pord> i obtained SuSe 9.3pro student edition free off a mate legally, quite liked it but debian was my fav. as 1st linux i got into :D
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, really ... if azureus says green .. then its nothing to do with OS
[02:37] <xandor> And my brother told me about Ubuntu.
[02:37] <corza> hiya, i used a 386 installation cd but i want to upgrade it to amd64 (my cpu) how would i go about doing this?
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> corza, reinstall
[02:38] <Nige> hey all
[02:38] <Nige> how are we
[02:38] <KinkoBlast> corza: Burn a new CD, install from that
[02:38] <Nige> :)
[02:38] <infested_maggot> ermmmm
[02:38] <xandor> Get a 64bit CD is all I can tell you.
[02:38] <corza> argh. thats buggered i would have if i had a cd lying around but i don't oh well never mind
[02:38] <corza> seeya
[02:38] <Nige> anyone know how to get my mouse scroll wheel to work :(
[02:38] <WebLOCH> I have come to admit what a complete noob i am and ask for help setting up java so that I can actually compile using the Blackdown j2sdk package that I installed, the problem i have is that the compiler complains that it "cannot resolve symbol" on "java.io" which implies it does not know where the classes are.  Please provide help in some detail if you wish to help me at all :(
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> WebLOCH, you are compiling a java program ?
[02:39] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, I was trying to yes
[02:39] <GatoLoko> hi
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> WebLOCH, pastebin ... i will try it here ... i use blackdown too
[02:39] <niels_> all: i just installed limewire on breezy... please tell me there is a way to launch it other than through the command terminal...
[02:39] <bmk789> is there a way to make an NTFS drive FAT32 without losing files?
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> niels_, you can do a shortcut
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> bmk789, no
[02:39] <pupil> anyone know  what this means with ndiswrapper ?
[02:39] <pupil> Warning: Driver for device wlan0 recommend version 18 of Wireless Extension,
[02:39] <pupil> but has been compiled with version 17, therefore some driver features
[02:39] <pupil> may not be available...
[02:40] <dducko> Applications, Internet.. is where is should be listed niels_
[02:40] <xandor> Does anyone know where to get the source for the 2.6.12-9-386 kernel?
[02:40] <Nige> you probably have an older version of ndiswrapper
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> pupil, i think the error message is obvious
[02:40] <pupil> Nige, How do I update it?
[02:40] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/410521
[02:40] <Knowerrors> anyone know when extras will be ready?  like mentioned here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70815&highlight=breezy+extras
[02:40] <Nige> apt-get update ndiswrapper :)
[02:40] <Nige> that should workd
[02:40] <niels_> wickedpuppy: i imagine creating a shortcut on breezy is not like doing so on windows?
[02:41] <niels_> dducko: nope, it ain't there
[02:41] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, I should mention, that im pretty sure its got nothing to do with the program
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> niels_, right click on the top menu bar
[02:41] <Nige> naah its easy niels_ , create an "application launcher"\
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> and create a short cut
[02:41] <durt> pupil: ndiswrapper 1.4 source is out, you can compile it, but i dont think that error message matters as long as it works
[02:41] <agt> Whats the command to format a partition as FAT32?
[02:41] <Nige> tell it the command is what ever it is that you used to luanch  it
[02:41] <niels_> wickedpuppy: "add to panel" ?
[02:41] <threeseas> pupil: It means you are using a mix of versions... you'll have better use if it wasn't mixed
[02:42] <dducko> xandor check on this page.  ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6
[02:42] <jighead> xandor: aptitude search kernel-source
[02:42] <threeseas> Oh Yeah.... I'm now wireless
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> niels_, yes
[02:43] <niels_> wickedpuppy: thanks
[02:43] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, any luck ?
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> WebLOCH,
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> i should give ya a spank
[02:44] <xandor> aptitude? Sorry, I'm still a newbie.
[02:44] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, why ?
[02:44] <threeseas> after most of the day I finally figured it out....thanks to a web page --- http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation
[02:44] <Nige> anyone know how to get my scroll wheel to work in ubuntu?
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> lucky this is not a java channel ... import java.io.*;
[02:44] <threeseas> pupil: see that link
[02:44] <jighead> xandor: enter that in a terminal, or use the search function in synaptic
[02:44] <pupil> thread, thanks
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> got it WebLOCH  ?
[02:45] <xandor> alright, thanks.
[02:45] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy,  haha thankfully, its not my code, i didnt spot it as i was using a copy and paste example hahaha
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> and main must be public
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> sheesh
[02:45] <RancidLM> to isntall ubuntu im copying its net isntaller into my current distro's /boot/   and putting it in /boot/ubuntu   and im setting grub to point to it and load it when i select the "ubuntu installer" as my grub option.. the thing is.. its giving me a kernel panic saying it cannot mount  correctly.. im just lost... now i dunno how im ever gonna get ubuntu on this laptop with a broken cd
[02:45] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, thanks and sorry for wasting your time like a n00b
[02:46] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, do you use ANT ?
[02:46] <wickedpuppy> .... lol ... no problem .... #java next time k ? :P
[02:46] <wickedpuppy> not
[02:46] <wickedpuppy> nope
[02:46] <WebLOCH> okay
[02:46] <niels_> wickedpuppy: what am i adding? application launcher? custom apllication launcher? or run application?
[02:46] <RezDawg> Can someone help me with my thumbdrive, i put some files on the thumbdrive and tried to restart the computer and got a whole lot of I/O errors for hdsa1 and now the thumbdrive is read only and wont let me delete anything from the drive. how do i make it RW?
[02:46] <intelikey> RancidLM any dos/windows boot on that thing ?
[02:47] <xandor> Neither that aptitude search nor that link showed me the source for 2.6.12-9-386 It has to be -9-386.
[02:47] <Thunderguy> Does anyone know how to correctly configure Firestarter to handle/log events from the time I turn on my system? It seems like I have to manually run firestarter and it has a GUI interface only.
[02:47] <ubenguin> exit
[02:47] <threeseas> pupil: you probably don't have to compile ndiswrapper -- just use synaptic to get ndiswrapper-util or some such -- that's what I did a few hours ago
[02:48] <durt> RezDawg, if necessary, you can reformat it with gparted
[02:48] <RezDawg> durt: how do i go about doing that? i tried to format it in disk manger but it wouldnt
[02:49] <KinkoBlast> Is there a SubEthaEdit (mac software for multiple users editing a text file at the same time) compatable (as in, can work on those files!) editor for Ubuntu?
[02:49] <RancidLM> intelikey:  ya.. only xp though.. i was looking at loadlin but i mean i already got linux installed on another partition of the hd.. with grub on it.. i should be able to load the kernel into grub some how
[02:50] <durt> rezdawg: apt-get install gparted and play around with it
[02:50] <mahsum> selam
[02:50] <intelikey> RancidLM loadlin the installed you downloaded and put in boot/   copy it over and and boot to a command prompt then type "loadlin <kernel.name> <initrd.img-name> root=/dev/ram     the problem you are bumping into is the kernel you are loading does not have ext#fs drivers compiled in, thus it cant read /
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> niels_, if the app is in application ... then application launcher
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> if not custom application ...
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> morning Amaranth
[02:51] <RezDawg> durt:  Invalid operation gparted
[02:51] <Amaranth> it's 8:51pm here :)
[02:51] <dandelion> hello
[02:51] <pord> 1.01am :D
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> haa ... bon nuit then :P
[02:51] <durt> rezdawg: sudo gparted?
[02:52] <RezDawg> roger
[02:52] <RancidLM> intelikey: it loads the kernel.. and starts to load the ramdisk..but complains my root=  is wrong.. iv been using /dev/hda6  but im looking into it.. it looks like i should be refering it more to a ramdisk...
[02:52] <RezDawg> is it "g" or q
[02:52] <nalioth> RezDawg: g- or qt- whichever you've installed
[02:52] <niels_> wixkedpuppy: i have limewire in /opt...
[02:53] <intelikey> RancidLM it might work just to edit the boot line in grub to issue a "root=/dev/ram "
[02:53] <niels_> wickedpuppy: i have limewire in/ opt...
[02:53] <Amaranth> RancidLM: That's the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[02:53] <RezDawg> nalioth: i dont think ive intalled anything but i seem to remember seeing qtparted somewhere
[02:53] <intelikey> RancidLM you can try it cheep enough.... :)
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> niels_, then /opt/limewire/limewire ? how you run on command line ?
[02:53] <ale8one> is there a command for installing ubuntu off a live cd?
[02:54] <nalioth> RezDawg: dependin on what we are talking about m gparted may be installed by default
[02:54] <nalioth> ale8one: use livecd to download and burn install cd
[02:54] <RezDawg> nalioth:  help me with my thumbdrive, i put some files on the thumbdrive and tried to restart the computer and got a whole lot of I/O errors for hdsa1 and now the thumbdrive is read only and wont let me delete anything from the drive. how do i make it RW?
[02:54] <KinkoBlast> alebone: Or order a CD from Shipit
[02:54] <dave_> hey someone wanna help me? i can't view my windows hdd from ubuntu
[02:55] <dave_> i have tried
[02:55] <dave_> http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[02:55] <nalioth> RezDawg: have you looked at your fstab?
[02:55] <RancidLM> intelikey: im using /dev/rd/0  but ill try /dev/ram
[02:55] <ale8one> ahh, thx nalioth, i know with knoppix you can typ knoppix-installer to do it fromt he live cd
[02:55] <nalioth> dave_: first problem is; you're using ubuntuguide
[02:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dave about mountwindows
[02:55] <ale8one> was wondering if this had that incorp into the live cd option
[02:55] <Ron_o> I think I found the next ubuntu standard wallpaper: http://www.orbit1.com/dailyphotos.aspx?photoid=812
[02:55] <RezDawg> nalioth: when i looked at fstab i didnt see any usb at all
[02:56] <nalioth> ale8one: if you get the dvd, you'll have both capabilities
[02:56] <niels_> wickedpuppy: what?
[02:56] <nalioth> RezDawg: i'm not up on my automount options
[02:56] <wickedpuppy> niels_, how you run limewire on command line ?
[02:56] <jasonb_> hi after installing a package using dpkg -i, what's the conmmand to configure the newly installed app? thanks
[02:56] <dave_>  ubotu: tell dave about mountwindows
[02:57] <WebLOCH> cheers again wickedpuppy, you've saved me wasting another few hours
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> dave_, it should be tell dave_ about mountwindows ... you forgot ya own nick
[02:57] <intelikey> RancidLM yeah the initrd probably doesnt know anything about udev conventions,  always try the old school when playing with initrd systems.
[02:57] <WebLOCH> nighty all
[02:57] <RezDawg> nalioth: thanks anyway
[02:57] <nalioth> dave_: check your private messages
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> WebLOCH, eh what i did ? well nvm i take the credit :P
[02:57] <dave_> ...
[02:57] <RancidLM> intelikey:  i just got a new error.. its "kernel panic - not syncing : no init found. Try passing init= option to kernel."
[02:57] <niels_> wixkedpuppy: sorry, like this: Type 'runLime.sh' to execute
[02:57] <dave_> it pm'd me on my command so it's cool :)
[02:58] <intelikey> that would be the name of the installer RancidLM
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> niels_, wait where are you now ? custom application right ? the command to run is /opt/limewire/runlime.sh
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> change ya limewire path as you see fit
[02:58] <adam_r> I would like to run a Apache, php, perl and MySql server, where do i start?
[02:58] <Inchabod> How come I can't get limewire to work?
[02:58] <Inchabod> the rpm from the site.
[02:58] <flodine> can someone please tell me how to change the ubuntu logo next to application in task bar
[02:58] <intelikey> if you boot linux and mount loop the initrd you can look around in there for helpful info.
[02:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell adam_r about lamp
[02:58] <RezDawg> nalioth:  durl suggested i could reformat thumbdrive with gparted and i cant seemed to find gparted
[02:59] <adam_r> what about perl
[02:59] <nalioth> RezDawg: if you cant find it, install it
[02:59] <dm> anyone tell me what Debconf is?
[02:59] <niels_> wickedpuppy: i am in the add panel options... either i can choose to add "application launcher" "custom apllication launcher", etc
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> adam_r, perl -v ... should be in
[02:59] <josh43> Anyone know what package "xf86Version.h" is in?
[02:59] <RancidLM> intelikey: im just gonna try this loadlin... :S
[02:59] <flodine> some help flodine
[02:59] <JaZy84> hey guys how can i convert from a rpm to a deb
[02:59] <DreamEater> ok it says to save the file and run the script how do i save it, with a text editor or something?
[02:59] <JaZy84> ??
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> niels_, custom application
[02:59] <wickedpuppy> JaZy84, not recommended
[02:59] <josh43> brb
[02:59] <adam_r> i followed that webpage
[02:59] <adam_r> and it doesnt work for me
[03:00] <RancidLM> intelikey: will it work from xp running on fat32 ?
[03:00] <nalioth> JaZy84: what are you convering?
[03:00] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: ok. now all the torrent are red :D
[03:00] <JaZy84> well i want to get the ibm java for ppc
[03:00] <RezDawg> nalioth: when i when sudo apt-get gparted it said Invalid operation gpart
[03:00] <adam_r> firefox trys to download each page as a phtml file
[03:00] <nalioth> RezDawg: "sudo apt-get install gparted"  (or use synaptic)
[03:00] <JaZy84> the tgz for some reason using make-jpkg will not give me an *.deb as it supposed to according to walk through
[03:00] <intelikey> RancidLM yeah.   but it will probably still want the name of the installer issued as init=<installer's.name>
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, lol ... now we get serious ... check ya nat again dude ... you sure 6881 is fine ?
[03:00] <niels_> wickedpuppy: ok, now i am in custom app launcher, now what?
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> niels_, you enter the name ... limewire or anything you want
[03:00] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: Testing port 10007 ... OK !
[03:00] <JaZy84> and i saw there was an rpm so wanted to try that.
[03:00] <RancidLM> intelikey: ok..  how do i find the installer name?
[03:00] <adam_r> and i get this (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[03:00] <JaZy84> can i installl strait from rpm?
[03:00] <adam_r> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> niels_, the command to run is path/to/limewire/runlime.sh
[03:01] <wickedpuppy> adam_r, you might have apache running now ... try going to localhost ?
[03:01] <titanium_> i just downloaded a program which i would like to have run automatically when the system starts. it's just a binary, no config or installer or anything. i've placed it in my home directory. what is the easiest way to make it run on system start (not on my login, but on boot)
[03:01] <adam_r> firefox trys to download each page as a phtml file
[03:01] <infested_maggot> titanium_: make a script.sh and place it on /etc/init.d/scrip.sh
[03:02] <DreamEater> ok nalioth i have run that script, now how do i start to view the hdd's?
[03:02] <intelikey> it should be in the initrd.img file.  mount it with -o loop -t cramfs image.file mount.point/
[03:02] <JaZy84> can i installl strait from rpm?
[03:02] <DreamEater> hmm
[03:02] <nalioth> JaZy84: have you installed java-package?
[03:02] <JaZy84> yes sir
[03:02] <nalioth> DreamEater: look in /media/
[03:02] <DreamEater> k
[03:03] <intelikey> then just look in mount.point/ for the info you need.  i would have to do the same.
[03:03] <nalioth> JaZy84: i'm not sure why you had trouble with that. want sun java?
[03:03] <DreamEater> nalioth, my 80gb windows hdd is there but my 300gb ntfs one denies me access
[03:03] <niels_> wickedpuppy: did it, but... now i have a yellow diamond with a question mark in it... what is that?
[03:03] <JaZy84> either one, i just need a java vm
[03:03] <DreamEater> something about permissions
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> niels_, did you put thelogo as well ?
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> the logo
[03:04] <JaZy84> both don't support firefox plugins right ?
[03:04] <nalioth> DreamEater: modify your access with your fstab. do NOT make it read/write
[03:04] <DreamEater> k
[03:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell JaZy84 about javadeb
[03:04] <niels_> wickedpuppy: of course not... how do i put the logo as well?
[03:04] <intelikey> RancidLM patients my man.  you are trying to put a square peg in around hole. it will not be easy.   but you can do it.
[03:04] <titanium_> infested_maggot: would script.sh just be 1 line, running the file?
[03:04] <DreamEater> nalioth, how do i do that... (god im a nub) =/
[03:04] <wickedpuppy> niels_, click on the logo button ? surely you saw it just now .. its just below the command to run line
[03:05] <infested_maggot> titanium_: yes. the path to the file that you want to execute ..i think :D
[03:05] <wickedpuppy> titanium_, check the scripts there ...
[03:05] <wickedpuppy> if you are not sure
[03:05] <infested_maggot> titanium_: and make sure you make it executable by chmod
[03:05] <nalioth> DreamEater: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[03:05] <JaZy84> the instructions will be the same? just dpkg *.deb and then test and use ephany
[03:05] <DreamEater> k
[03:05] <titanium_> infested_maggot: executable to u, g, or o?
[03:06] <pord> ffs forgot how to change root password... didnt ask 4 one on install and passwd root aint working. Any1?
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> JaZy84, dpkg -i *.deb
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> titanium_, u = user , g = group , g = group
[03:06] <durt> titanium, after that do: update-rc.d script.sh defaults
[03:06] <JaZy84> ty lemme check it out
[03:06] <intelikey> u = user , G = group , g = group
[03:07] <wickedpuppy> oh eh ... lol
[03:07] <infested_maggot> :D
[03:07] <wickedpuppy> should be o = others
[03:07] <intelikey> yeah i did it backwards too ^
[03:07] <intelikey> u = user , g = group , G = group   <---- i believe that is correct syntax
[03:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pord about root
[03:08] <[Nige] > anyone got there scroll wheel on their mouse to work?
[03:08] <JaZy84> nalioth, hey that is the i386 version
[03:08] <JaZy84> i need something for the ppc
[03:08] <titanium_> ok cool, done.
[03:08] <nalioth> JaZy84: what hardware do you have/
[03:08] <_jason> [Nige] :  worked out of the box for me, what mouse/
[03:09] <nalioth> JaZy84: ah, well then
[03:09] <JaZy84> iBook g3
[03:09] <JaZy84> ppc
[03:09] <pord> ah ty
[03:09] <[Nige] > _jason, i am using a Logitech Cordless Desktop LX 700
[03:09] <lsald> JaZy84, what are you looking for
[03:09] <JaZy84> can i install from an rpm then?
[03:09] <vinux> intelikey, yo yo
[03:09] <JaZy84> java lsald
[03:09] <intelikey> _jason [Nige]  worked out of the box on this memorex ps2 wheel mouse
[03:09] <JaZy84> i'm trying to follow the wiki
[03:09] <_jason> [Nige] :  lookover: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=logitech
[03:09] <intelikey> vinux  :)
[03:09] <JaZy84> but i can't convert the tgz
[03:10] <[Nige] > okay looking now....
[03:10] <lsald> eww, that is nasty on ppc
[03:10] <intelikey> tgz == tar -xzvf <file>.tgz
[03:10] <titanium_> in my /etc/init.d/scriptname.sh file i just have 2 lines, the #bin/bash thing and the path to the binary. should i have /path/to/bin & so it runs in bg, or something else?
[03:11] <nalioth> JaZy84: i found the IBM java conversion to be seamless, did you follow the wiki.ubuntu.com/javappc howto ?
[03:11] <vinux> Hey guys am having problems with gxine playing my streaming videos. I got the win32 files in the right place. Any ideas?
[03:11] <vinux> intelikey, whatcha up to?
[03:11] <farruinn> I just printed to file from firefox, then ran ps2pdf on the *.ps file, but the text is gone, anyone know what I should do?
[03:11] <JaZy84> the ./make-dpkg ibm***.tgz will not convert to a deb..
[03:11] <pupil> threeseas, did you use stable version ,. 1.4 or 1.5rc3 ?
[03:11] <JaZy84> can i install from the rpm?
[03:12] <niels_> wickedpuppy: oh, right... let's see now... and bingo! you rock dude!
[03:12] <wickedpuppy> niels_, cheers :P
[03:12] <JaZy84> or convert the rpm to a deb?
[03:13] <utta> JaZy84, use alien to covert rpm to deb
[03:13] <intelikey> JaZy84 "man alien "
[03:13] <JaZy84> thanks
[03:13] <farruinn> JaZy84: did you try following the wiki?
[03:14] <josh43> Anyone know what package "xf86Version.h" is in?
[03:14] <JaZy84> yes.. and it doesn't work when i do the man-dpkg ibm*.tgz
[03:14] <josh43> I've tried google and synaptic search, no luck
[03:15] <threeseas> pupil: I used the version I got today thru snaptic
[03:15] <pestil> hello people. Does anybody remember which company used a black female cat as a logo? was it amiga?
[03:16] <bmk789> anyone know why some packages cont be found on my machine?  am i missing a repository?
[03:16] <intelikey> josh43 "apt-cache show `apt-cache search xorg | cut -d' ' -f1` "  might give you something on that.....
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> bmk789, which packages ?
[03:16] <bmk789> java and azereus
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> !java
[03:16] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadeb
[03:16] <TiMiDo> !tell bmk789 about javadeb
[03:16] <nalioth> JaZy84: JaZy84 that does not look like a valid comand
[03:16] <wickedpuppy> bmk789, azureus is azureus.sourceforge.net
[03:16] <bmk789> thx
[03:17] <TiMiDo> np
[03:17] <JaZy84> make-jpkg IBMJava2-SDK-142.ppc.tgz 2nd instruction after the apt-get install java-package
[03:17] <pestil> hello people. Does anybody remember which company used a black female cat as a logo? was it amiga?
[03:17] <farruinn> JaZy84: did you get java-package to install?
[03:17] <JaZy84> yes that installed with no problems
[03:17] <JaZy84> but when i run the next command
[03:17] <JaZy84> i get no deb
[03:17] <utta> !javadeb
[03:17] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[03:18] <JaZy84> i need it for ppc
[03:18] <threeseas> pupil: I can't seem to get ndiswrapper to tell me which version it is
[03:18] <farruinn> ubotu: does that apply to ppc?
[03:18] <ubotu> farruinn: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:18] <farruinn> utta: does that apply to ppc?
[03:18] <josh43> intelikey, Nothing at all about that file
[03:18] <wickedpuppy> farruinn, ubuntu is a bot
[03:18] <farruinn> wickedpuppy: I know, mistype
[03:18] <utta> farruinn, I don't know...
[03:19] <rixth> I'm having trouble writing a cron job, how can I have a job run every 10 minutes?
[03:19] <nalioth> JaZy84: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[03:20] <wickedpuppy> that would be * for all except the minute field which should be 10 ?
[03:20] <Inchabod> I got the jack driver on XMMS and I play a song and this pops up and it doesn't play it says "Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly, You have the correct output plugin, No other program is blocking the sound.
[03:20] <josh43> Anyone? The files I am missing are supposed to be in '/usr/X11R6/lib/Serve'
[03:21] <josh43> (lib/Server, sorry)
[03:21] <jighead> rixth: man 5 crontab has the time fields explained
[03:21] <wickedpuppy> josh43, inside my lib got no server
[03:22] <absent> can anyone help me with the xfire plugin for gaim?
[03:22] <rixth> */10, I see, thanks
[03:22] <josh43> wickedpuppy, Do you mind just doing a search on your system for 'xf86Version.h'
[03:23] <threeseas> pupil: synaptic installed list it as 1.1-4ubuntu2
[03:23] <nalioth> josh43: what are you trying to do?
[03:23] <mike_> hi
[03:24] <wickedpuppy> josh43, searching ... hold on
[03:24] <mike_> can someone help me with a wifi problem?
[03:24] <josh43> nalioth, Trying to get all my MX700 mouse buttons configured by using (and apparently having to compile) 'evdev'
[03:24] <wickedpuppy> josh43, nope ... not in my system
[03:24] <josh43> wickedpuppy, Thanks anyways
[03:24] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: can you help me with a jre problem pls ?
[03:24] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, jre ?
[03:24] <wickedpuppy> sure ... what about it ?
[03:24] <nalioth> josh43: we dont use xf86 on hoary or breezy
[03:25] <nalioth> josh43: you might install these
[03:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell josh43 about xincludes
[03:25] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: i`ve download the lates java jre from sun. but can i convince my system to use it instead of gcj ?
[03:26] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: it apears azureus does not work with gij
[03:27] <josh43> nalioth, thanks - I dont suppose you know if it will cack if I compile it with XF86, but am running xorg?
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, whereis java ... it will tell you java location .. then you go there and ls -l java ... it should point to gcj .. change the softlink
[03:27] <anak_gukguk> i need help
[03:27] <Nihil85> hallo
[03:27] <mike_> so do i
[03:27] <nalioth> josh43: install those files ubotu sent you and try again
[03:27] <Nihil85> i need help too
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> everyone just ask
[03:27] <Linuxiac> metoo
[03:27] <anak_gukguk> ubuntu no KDE ?
[03:27] <wickedpuppy> anak_gukguk, kubuntu ...
[03:27] <Linuxiac> Ok, I am asking!
[03:27] <nalioth> anak_gukguk: install kubuntu-desktop using apt-get or synaptic
[03:28] <Ropechoborra> need help (lol xDD)
[03:28] <rixth> */15 *	* * *	rixth	scrot -q 20 /www/screen.jpg << so that should run as rixth every 15 minutes?
[03:28] <Linuxiac> OK, really, I like it... except for I don'gt have Xawtv, for my webcam... but, I am so ugly, maybe that is a GOOD THING!
[03:28] <anak_gukguk> ic
[03:29] <anak_gukguk> i just got ubuntu cd from ubuntu.com
[03:29] <[Nige] > bbl
[03:29] <anak_gukguk> kubuntu free or not?
[03:29] <rixth> anak_gukguk, yes
[03:29] <rixth> anak_gukguk, free
[03:29] <_gueb_> free
[03:29] <moo> hey how do you put the trash can on your desktop?
[03:29] <Linuxiac> Ubuntu plus KDE+Kubuntu, and it is on the mirrors!
[03:29] <anak_gukguk> mirrors? download? hiks... T_T
[03:29] <pupil> how do I check the system log?
[03:29] <anak_gukguk> is there any free kubuntu cd?
[03:29] <josh43> nalioth, Installed a butt-load of lib files, but no-go.. :(
[03:29] <_gueb_> who know a good programm to make gprs via bluetooth?
[03:29] <wickedpuppy> Linuxiac, xawtv is in the repo
[03:29] <Belutz> how come my boot splash is not showing? how do i enable that?
[03:29] <mike_> how do i configure my wifi card with kwifimanager?
[03:30] <Ropechoborra> Ive been trying to configure hoary at 1024x768 at 16bits... Ive tryed everithing with xorgconfig and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, the only two configuration i could reach were 640x480 and 1024x768 (8bits) ! :S Dont know why!
[03:30] <jighead> pupil: dmesg
[03:30] <_gueb_> ubuntu is like newbuntu
[03:30] <_gueb_> or?
[03:30] <Linuxiac> Yep. you can Download kubuntu. and i will look for 'repo; Is he the guy who took my car when I missed tow payments?
[03:30] <nemik> hello; sorry i know this isn't ubuntu related but i can't find any other channels about hardware. does anyone know what the best but simple fail-over router would be with two WAN ports?
[03:30] <pupil> jighead, my dmesg looks really strange
[03:30] <wickedpuppy> _gueb_, what is newbuntu ?
[03:31] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: and what am i looking for? libgcj-4.0.jar ?
[03:31] <_gueb_> nemik try astaro
[03:31] <_gueb_> astaro.org
[03:31] <WalrusU> silly question, but how do I install a .deb binary that's not available through the package system? How do I make sure it grabs dependancies?
[03:31] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, where are you now ? should be in /usr/bin
[03:31] <nemik> thank you _gueb_
[03:31] <Nihil85> so i made a mistake: i copied with the dd tool one of my hd to another, but when i reboot the system, the copied hd (wich previously had a linux OS in it) was not functional. The shell at the start say to me: "grub ERROR 2". what does it means and what can i do to not to lose all the configurations (driver, applets charged with synaptic, files, ecc)?
[03:31] <_jason> moo:  check "/apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_icon_visible" in gconf editor under "system tools"
[03:31] <wickedpuppy> WalrusU, sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[03:31] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: usr/share/java
[03:31] <_gueb_> nemik, np
[03:31] <Linuxiac> apt-get xprogram-install
[03:31] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, you got sun java right ?
[03:32] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: yes.
[03:32] <jighead> infested_maggot: have you tried using java-package to create a deb?
[03:32] <moo> thansk jason
[03:32] <_jason> moo:  you're welcome
[03:32] <infested_maggot> jieter: no, i didn`t
[03:32] <Melee> Er, if anyone can help me, if I reinstall windows onto my windows partition will it fuck with my linux partition at all?
[03:32] <Nihil85> noone can help me?
[03:32] <pupil> will I have any problems if I have wireless card and ethernet card enabled?
[03:32] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, where is that located ?
[03:32] <jighead> infested_maggot: if you use it it will make the sun java your first choice
[03:33] <Linuxiac> WalrusU: the Apt-get does dependancies, as a front end for dpkg
[03:33] <pupil> everytime I modprobe for my card,. It doesn't turn on
[03:33] <Melee> Hello?
[03:33] <mike_> how do i enable my wifi card/
[03:33] <mike_> ?
[03:33] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: in my home dir
[03:33] <delltony> question: is there an extension or program like gaim that allows you to view yahoo webcams and all? thats the only thing i really miss of windows
[03:33] <ale8one> Melee, it won't mess your partition up, just your boot loader
[03:33] <Linuxiac> Melee, the MBR will be wiped out, wiped over, by the Windows installer.
[03:33] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, you have installed it ??
[03:33] <Melee> So how would I fix that?
[03:34] <ale8one> or mbr i mean
[03:34] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: sure
[03:34] <RezDawg> durt: thanks i got it to reformat with gparted, had to play around with it but eventually got it, thanks.
[03:34] <ale8one> i think you can fix the mbr within ubuntu grub settings or do a repair with windows cd
[03:34] <WalrusU> thanks Linuxiac
[03:34] <agt> !samba
[03:34] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[03:34] <ale8one> i would google it
[03:34] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, my usr/share/java is a directory .. not bin ... you are looking for a java bin
[03:34] <Melee> just do a repair, and it'll work?
[03:34] <dm> how do i make KDM my default login GUI
[03:35] <Linuxiac> Install GRUB, AFTER the windows is linstalled, but, boot from a LIVE CD and install GRUB.
[03:35] <ale8one> i'm not sure, all i know is that it will not mess up your partitions
[03:35] <WalrusU> I don't suppose anyone knows how to grab the mouse working again after its been disconnected by accident on a ps2 port (damn annoying, win32 doesn't do it either)
[03:35] <wickedpuppy> Linuxiac, pls don't shout pls
[03:35] <Nihil85> linuxiac, you answered to me?
[03:35] <ale8one> still a linux noob myself
[03:35] <josh43> Melee, If you go the windows route, you can just run "fdisk /MBR" from any MS based command-prompt
[03:35] <DaFender> hi guys first time ever using irc and even use Ubuntu
[03:35] <WalrusU> wickedpuppy: I call those highlights myself ;)
[03:36] <wickedpuppy> ?
[03:36] <dm> how do i make KDM my default login GUI
[03:36] <jighead> infested_maggot: try this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70428&highlight=java-package
[03:36] <nixuser> anybody in here ever run straight debian, 3.1?
[03:36] <nixuser> sarge
[03:37] <wickedpuppy> nixuser, why ?
[03:37] <nixuser> because it blows ubuntu away
[03:37] <josh43> WalrusU, You can't.. it's a hardware thing
[03:37] <nixuser> essentially the same thing without all the bloat
[03:37] <wickedpuppy> nixuser, thanks for the info :P
[03:37] <anto9us> nixuser, I tried it before ubuntu
[03:37] <WalrusU> nixuser, : less polish... though OSes run better without loading polish into memory
[03:37] <josh43> nixuser, Then you are in the wrong channel :P
[03:37] <nixuser> its gotten lots easier to install
[03:37] <Linuxiac> Yes, and it is almost exactly like Ubuntu, except the pre-configured options (sound, desktop prefs. and background) are not as sommth
[03:37] <nixuser> exactly
[03:38] <nixuser> ubuntu is a bloated up version of debian
[03:38] <brian> hi all
[03:38] <Nihil85> linuxiac, can't you answer me?
[03:38] <josh43> nixuser, You want no bloat, go to Gentoo
[03:38] <wickedpuppy> nixuser, how many cds does it come with ?
[03:38] <nixuser> just one, use the netinstall
[03:38] <nixuser> for broadband
[03:38] <nixuser> dialup, you will need the full cd think theres two
[03:38] <Linuxiac> Nihil85, lost in the shuffle, what is it, pls?
[03:39] <wickedpuppy> nixuser, heh ... so you are not using the install most users would use ... i would have installed from 5 cd sarge
[03:39] <Nihil85> can we talk in pvt instead of this confusionary channel?
[03:39] <pord> well nice to know my ati graphics card still have issues :P
[03:39] <anto9us> nixuser, different strokes for different folks
[03:39] <nixuser> no reason to, the netinstall works fine
[03:39] <Nihil85> i cant' even see what i wrote
[03:39] <Linuxiac> Yes, nihil85
[03:39] <DaFender> anyone know how i can put icon on taskbar like windows local area connection
[03:39] <WalrusU> I like Ubuntu for what it is, when I feel more confident about configuring stuff myself, I may move to Debian or another distro. However at the moment I have a non-functional mouse and can't even figure out how to install a downloaded .deb package ;)
[03:39] <dm> Anyone know how to make KDM default GUI when loging in ??
[03:40] <WalrusU> er... install WITH dependancies anyway
[03:40] <nixuser> yes dm, get kubuntu
[03:40] <WalrusU> dm: kubuntu is the KDE optimized distro of Ubuntu
[03:40] <Nihil85> linuxiac, can you see my pvts?
[03:40] <anto9us> DaFender, just drag it to an empty part of the panel
[03:40] <dm> nixuser i have KDE, but somehow my login screen is still the gnome login
[03:40] <pord> cant you put KDE on ubun???
[03:40] <dm> I mean my login screen ,
[03:40] <dm> heh :)
[03:40] <brian> I need to know how to get to the "universe" section of the "repository" can anyone help?
[03:40] <DaFender> ok thanks
[03:41] <josh43> pord: yep, but then you have both.. kubuntu is kde, no gnome
[03:41] <nixuser> ive never been able to install kde on ubuntu, im sure it can be done, consult google would be my first step
[03:41] <jighead> dm: update-rc.d gdm remove then update-rc.d defaults kdm
[03:41] <anto9us> !repos
[03:41] <josh43> nixuser, it's just one package that does the whole thing
[03:41] <dm> jighead i thought someone has said there was a reconfig thing
[03:41] <WalrusU> brian: in the package manual there should be a menu option for Repositories where you can add/delete what you like
[03:41] <nickrud> dm sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[03:41] <anto9us> !tell brian about repos
[03:41] <pord> but what if i like both on, i tend to use KDE normally then gnome when im in admin/dev mode :P
[03:41] <nixuser> well i dont run ubuntu, so im not sure, ill shut up
[03:41] <WalrusU> brian: Universe is there by default but disabled for the lookup
[03:41] <josh43> pord, Then either-or :P
[03:42] <Linuxiac> Nhil85 I have X-Chat: DCC up with you... ACCEPT is the right option...
[03:42] <brian> thank you
[03:42] <josh43> bbl
[03:42] <dm> jighead thanks
[03:43] <WalrusU> hmm, I'm beginning to think I'll have to track down all these dependancies manually for this downloaded deb file. That'll be a pain :)
[03:43] <Nihil85> i send a chat dcc to you, linuxian
[03:43] <Linuxiac> Nihil85, i have thewindow, and accepted, but, it shows you waiting...
[03:43] <vinux> Anybody know about VLC?
[03:44] <WalrusU> vinux: I've used it a bit in Ubuntu, have used it more in a win32 enviro...
[03:44] <downeyrus> Wooohooo
[03:45] <downeyrus> did i make it to chat
[03:45] <downeyrus> =))
[03:45] <WalrusU> downeyrus: welcome to chat. Say "LOL" at the prompt ;)
[03:45] <colen> does anyone know what dir. the "Add Programs" option uses to store downloaded files?
[03:46] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone here know what dappers goals will be?
[03:46] <downeyrus> what about Installing Nvidia Drivers
[03:46] <Lord_Maynoth> is there a page anywhere with them?
[03:46] <jighead> colen: /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:46] <nalioth> colen: apt-get uses /var/cache/apt/archives/
[03:46] <colen> thank you both very much
[03:46] <vinux> WalrusU, well I'm trying to find any video player in ubuntu 5.10 now and Gxine doesn't seem to work and vlc is giving me no picture. Says  main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `WMV3'.
[03:46] <vinux> VLC probably does not support this sound or video format.
[03:46] <vinux> woops sorry for long paste
[03:46] <Necator_Away> I just installed wine but I dont see it in any of my application menus...
[03:46] <Necator_Away> Did i do a bad install?
[03:46] <nixuser> vlc usually supports all codecs
[03:47] <_jason> Lord_Maynoth:  search the wiki for dapperdrake and dappergoals
[03:47] <milksteak> vinux, what codec is it?
[03:47] <milksteak> I know it doesn't play some wmv's for me
[03:47] <nixuser> proprietary ms codecs maybe not
[03:47] <nalioth> Lord_Maynoth: do you ever visit the wiki ?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperGoals
[03:47] <Necator> hey guys i just installed wine but cant find it anywhere in my applications menu where did it go?
[03:47] <vinux> milksteak, not really sure just says WMV3
[03:47] <nekostar> what was that packages that started with a d that goes through and asks if you wanna remove unused packages please?
[03:48] <nixuser> but then who wants any m$ stuff on their linux box
[03:48] <milksteak> vinux, try mplayer
[03:48] <WalrusU> vinux: getting the codecs is the hard part. There's something on the wiki about obtaining the codecs that will play wmvs. Because of the legal gray area, they're not within the package list however
[03:48] <jighead> nekostar: deb-orphan, or deborphan, search for orphan
[03:48] <DaFender>  love my new Ubuntu
[03:48] <nickrud> nekostar, debfoster
[03:48] <nixuser> im off to where i belong debian room
[03:48] <vinux> milksteak, yea yea but I'll have to compile it myself hehe. I didn't see one for ubuntu 5.10 in the pkg area
[03:48] <lsald> !tell vinux w32codecs
[03:49] <nekostar> perfect thanx nickrud
[03:49] <milksteak> vinux, it's there for me
[03:49] <nekostar> and thanx jighead
[03:49] <vinux> milksteak, let me look again
[03:49] <milksteak> but compiling stuff yourself isn't hard :P
[03:49] <utta> !tell utta w32codecs
[03:49] <WalrusU> Does anyone know how to restart the mouse daemon or something? it falls out of my ps/2 port often :/
[03:49] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: oh, ok
[03:49] <jighead> Necator: wine doesn't have a gui, there are some gui configs, but in general, you launch wine from the terminal
[03:49] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: so, after i found the .bin, what`s next ?
[03:50] <josh43> vinux, I can tell you a great source of codecs for mplayer: XBMC (easily downloadable through torrents)
[03:50] <nickrud> nalioth, do you remember the command for listing ubotu's factoids?
[03:50] <lsald> !tell utta about w32codecs
[03:50] <nekostar> (xchat:32603): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed <<-- current wierd xchat mssg >_<
[03:50] <nickrud> oh, and hi :)
[03:50] <nalioth> nickrud: there is none.
[03:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell nickrud about yourself
[03:50] <vinux> josh43, cool
[03:50] <utta> lsald, Thanks
[03:50] <nickrud> ah, duh
[03:50] <nekostar> seems i get a lot of gtk-critical messages... what can i update to make sure thats as good as it can be?
[03:51] <nalioth> nekostar: does your program start?
[03:51] <Necator> jighead o no gui sounds ruff =(
[03:51] <Necator> any wine users in here?
[03:52] <josh43> Necator, I am
[03:52] <dm> What fonts do i have to install to see some text on flash based sites?
[03:52] <downeyrus> http://kaarsemaker.net/personal
[03:52] <dm> msttcorefonts?
[03:52] <downeyrus> check that out guys
[03:52] <Necator> josh43 how do i make it run stuff? :p i just installed it but i also just found out it has no gui
[03:52] <downeyrus> :))
[03:52] <josh43> dm, There is no specific font.. if nothing else it will show it to you in a font you have and break the layout
[03:52] <colen> how do I search my file system, I dont see a option in the menu for it
[03:53] <josh43> Necator, The easiest way is to try and open a .exe file, then when it asks what with; type "wine "
[03:53] <dm> josh43 i got alot of Use of uninitialized value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 83, <GEN1> line 12. these?
[03:53] <Madpilot> dm: probably the those MS core fonts
[03:53] <Necator> josh43 ah i c
[03:53] <Necator> josh43 i thought it was going ot have programs already installed on it. and that i can only access what ever it came with
[03:54] <Madpilot> gah... me type reel good tonite... :)
[03:54] <Necator> josh43 so it actually is ment to run windows programs that i have?
[03:54] <nickrud> colen, Places->Search for files
[03:54] <Lord_Maynoth> I was wanting everyons opinion on something....  How many years do you think it will be until Ubuntu becomes easy enough to use for windows morons (like me)?
[03:54] <josh43> Necator, But if you want the proper way; drop to a terminal and type "wine thing.exe"
[03:54] <Necator> josh43 does that mean i have to have windows installed some where so i can see the exe files?
[03:54] <colen> thank you nickrud, not sure how i missed that one
[03:54] <lsald> nalioth, ppc java works like a charm with an older 1.42 version
[03:54] <Necator> lord_maynoth it already is
[03:54] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, still there ? sorry was watching naruto ... eh you got to replace the soft link
[03:54] <nalioth> nekostar: one needs windows executables for wine to run
[03:54] <Madpilot> Lord_Maynoth: the answer is "right now" - unless some of your hardware isn't cooperating
[03:54] <Ropechoborra> Ive been trying to configure hoary at 1024x768 at 16bits... Ive tryed everithing with xorgconfig and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, the only two configuration i could reach were 640x480 and 1024x768 (8bits) ! :S Dont know why!
[03:55] <josh43> Necator, Pretend like it's an install of win98 inside linux.. it doesn't come with programs, but you can DL them.. some will not work, also
[03:55] <Necator> josh43 so i have a dual boot right now and i mounted my windows partition can i run the exes from there?
[03:55] <nickrud> colen, I put it on my menu bar, first thing ;)
[03:55] <Lord_Maynoth> well I would put ubuntu currently at the usability of windows 3.1 which isn't bad to me but I think it still has 2-3 years more in the oven before its ready for the masses
[03:55] <josh43> Necator, Is your windows 98 or 2k/XP?
[03:55] <Necator> josh43 xp
[03:56] <propagandhi> usability of windows 3.1???
[03:56] <Necator> josh43 does it run installer files ?
[03:56] <josh43> Necator, Ok, then  not all of them will work, but you got the right idea
[03:56] <jbrouhard> I see kdenlive is not in the ubuntu apt-get repository :(
[03:56] <colen> has anyone installed real player using the Add Applications ?
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, lol ... i got no comments ... not fit for this channel :P
[03:56] <josh43> Lord_Maynoth, You are just about to get beat, I think ;)
[03:56] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: hehe. ur watching naruto? :D which episode ?
[03:56] <colen> I can only get so far and then it can not find a file, and I have searched for it with no luck
[03:56] <nalioth> lsald: ibm musta changed things, i guess
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, 157 .. latest
[03:57] <Gigglesworth> Windows XP has the usability of Unix from 1978... commandline that is ;)
[03:57] <josh43> Necator, Yes, but again..l not all of them
[03:57] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: how is it ?
[03:57] <Lord_Maynoth> wow... cant even ready whats going on due to the massive pm's
[03:57] <Madpilot> Lord_Maynoth: I'd say Ubuntu 5.10 is at least as usable as XP - but I'm aware that I've been lucky w. hardware
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> infested_maggot, excellent ... haaaa you gotta solve ya jre problem dude ... btw there is deb for jre and sdk .. why not just get them ?
[03:57] <propagandhi> the usability compared to MS also depends on hows window-ified you are
[03:58] <Gigglesworth> Ubuntu reminds me of the reasons I got involved with OSS in the first place.
[03:58] <josh43> Lord_Maynoth, I mean, next year Linux is going to surpass windows Vista with the UI functionality and speed
[03:58] <colen> I just completely got rid of xp and switched to linux for the first time today. loving it so far
[03:58] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: just installed the new .deb . hoepe the damn azureus will work now
[03:58] <fabsoft> hi
[03:58] <nalioth> colen: congratulations
[03:58] <colen> so far so good, have a TON of learning to do though
[03:58] <nickrud> colen, you need to download realplayer from real.com youself (sorry if you already have)
[03:58] <Madpilot> colen: welcome to the Light Side. I made the jump about seven months ago myself
[03:59] <Lord_Maynoth> so heres a question
[03:59] <propagandhi> its changing your mindset from 'a stupid monkey could use this' to 'i really would like to know HOW it does this, and how I can make it do that'
[03:59] <holycow> colen, welcome
[03:59] <colen> nickrud, I havnt, thank you for the help.
[03:59] <fabsoft> anyone know if ubuntu kernel has support for misdn modules ?
[03:59] <Lord_Maynoth> if I change my hardware with ubuntu installed to I have to reformat or will it PnP
[03:59] <nalioth> nickrud: or helix player
[03:59] <nalioth> Lord_Maynoth: what hardware?
[03:59] <josh43> Lord_Maynoth, Mostly PnP
[04:00] <nickrud> heh, I haven't tried that one for a while. Does it work now?
[04:00] <wickedpuppy> Lord_Maynoth, i added my new dvd player and its detected automatically ... imation
[04:00] <Lord_Maynoth> if I change my motherboard and video card for example
[04:00] <josh43> Lord_Maynoth, And when you get good enough: any and all hardware can be changed with little hiccup
[04:00] <Necator> what is cvs and/or cvs tree? i just read the term somewhere
[04:00] <josh43> Lord_Maynoth, Are you changing CPU architecture?
[04:00] <wickedpuppy> !cvs
[04:00] <Madpilot> Lord_Maynoth: the vid card would probably require reconfiguration of the drivers; not sure about the mobo
[04:01] <Lord_Maynoth> I dunno it was a hypothetical
[04:01] <fabsoft> i have a hfc-pci chipset card witch i must get it work with asterisk-chan-misdn
[04:01] <wickedpuppy> Necator, just type !cvs
[04:01] <Gigglesworth> Does any OS work well after switching the Motherboard?
[04:01] <Ins|de> hi there
[04:01] <jighead> Gigglesworth: no
[04:01] <josh43> Lord_Maynoth, If you change from pentium to AMD, it's tricky, but the rest just means swap and do a reconfig of the drivers
[04:01] <Necator> !cvs
[04:01] <ubotu> hmm... cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[04:01] <Lord_Maynoth> and can that be done via gui?
[04:01] <Ins|de> anyne here had this problem while compiling stuff with gcc? /usr/bin/ld: cannot open crt1.o: No such file or directory
[04:01] <infested_maggot> wickedpuppy: about that .deb what is it`s name ?
[04:02] <wickedpuppy> !javadeb
[04:02] <ubotu> hmm... javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[04:02] <mhz> hi all
[04:02] <josh43> Lord_Maynoth, Swap from pentium to amd? it /could/, but it would be a bad idea
[04:02] <Necator> josh43 i have my windows partition mounted now how can i make wine access those apps?
[04:02] <mhz> anyone with laptop here?
[04:02] <Lord_Maynoth> I just dont think the masses are ever going to learn the command line
[04:02] <nalioth> Necator: "wine /path/to/windows.exe
[04:03] <josh43> Necator, Use a terminal, navigate to the folder of your application (typically /Program Files/App), and type "wine app.exe"
[04:03] <Necator> nalioth what will that do exsactly?
[04:03] <morphix> the command line is tedious,.
[04:03] <Madpilot> Lord_Maynoth: most people don't try to switch hardware out from under an OS, most of the time...
[04:03] <ivolsa> hey guys
[04:03] <Necator> josh43 ah ok i see thanks
[04:03] <Necator> josh43 would be nice if there was some kind of gui management that organized all the windows based apps tho
[04:03] <Gigglesworth> Probably not... a good GUI is essential for mass adoption. The Linux GUI has much improved in the last few years though.
[04:03] <ivolsa> is there any place on the net that helps me with linux
[04:03] <Necator> josh43 thx again
[04:03] <holycow> for linux, just like for mac, one needs to buy hardware FOR the software
[04:03] <Lord_Maynoth> I dont reformat to change video cards in xp
[04:03] <ivolsa> i'm a newbe
[04:03] <josh43> Necator, You can make one.. just drag shortcuts into your home folder ;)
[04:03] <Gigglesworth> Ivolsa: There is a #linux channel.
[04:04] <holycow> that particularly goes for video capture cards and wireless cards
[04:04] <jighead> morphix: at first, but it is very powerful and efficient
[04:04] <josh43> Necator, yw
[04:04] <Gigglesworth> If it's general help you are looking for.
[04:04] <nickrud> I've moved my harddrive from one machine to another a few times; I just made sure to bring along the same vid card ;)
[04:04] <nalioth> Necator: say you want to run solitaire. open a terminal and type "wine /path/to/solitaire.exe"
[04:04] <Madpilot> Lord_Maynoth: AFAIK you wouldn't have to in Linux either...
[04:04] <morphix> yes but still tedious
[04:04] <ivolsa> thank you
[04:04] <nekostar> nalioth, you totally lost me here....
[04:04] <Gigglesworth> Ivolsa: But people here can probably help you too.
[04:04] <nekostar> i dont run wine or any windows programs >_<
[04:05] <josh43> morphix, I find clicking on the _ []  X on a window tedius after using mouse gestures.. it's all realative ;)
[04:05] <nalioth> nekostar: how did i lose you?
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> morphix, i find command line much more efficient ... it takes time to learn but then thats the point
[04:05] <fabsoft> anyone can say me if ubuntu linux-source has support for misdn ?
[04:05] <ivolsa> cool
[04:05] <ivolsa> thx
[04:05] <nekostar> you said something about windows programs and wine .. er i dont use either... but that error i mentioned is related to wine somehow>?
[04:06] <Necator> josh43 i dont know how to make shortcuts properly.
[04:06] <nalioth> nekostar: i was talking to Necator
[04:06] <nekostar> o
[04:06] <Necator> josh43 but i understand how to use it now thanks
[04:06] <nekostar> lol
[04:06] <nekostar> ok then sorry about that >_>
[04:06] <josh43> Necator, You can browse through the GUI, then drag an icon while holding ALT
[04:06] <nekostar> well
[04:06] <nekostar> now to test my linux kung-fu
[04:06] <Necator> ok woot thats perfect
[04:07] <josh43> Necator, You will like ubuntu the more you use it :)
[04:07] <Necator> already like it
[04:07] <Necator> goal is to remove windows completely
[04:07] <nickrud> Necator, you can also middle button drag
[04:07] <Necator> and give ubuntu my whole hdd
[04:07] <Necator> is there a list of like nifty tricks like that like making shortcuts and stuff that i can read some where?
[04:07] <Gigglesworth> Commandline is a learned skill. Once you get a handle on it, it's 10 times more efficient then clicking around in a GUI. In the time you can do "Start: Search: For files and folders... "search for panda bear"" in the Windows GUI, you could have already searched and received all results for "panda" on your Linux system.
[04:07] <josh43> nickrud, sweet, didn't know that either
[04:08] <Necator> i need a link to cedega if someone can provide that please.
[04:08] <holycow> what Gigglesworth said
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> !cedega
[04:08] <ubotu> help for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[04:08] <Necator> i think im completely done setting up my linux stuff now..
[04:08] <holycow> it sounds counterintuitive, but it is true
[04:08] <Necator> ive done everythign i can possibly thing off and now got wine installed..
[04:08] <bobesponja> about breezy and breezy-update in sources.list , can I uncomment both or do I need to chose?
[04:08] <Necator> i feel acomplished
[04:08] <josh43> Necator, It's a commercial app, you will not find the files for it here
[04:08] <nickrud> find is the one unix command that I have *never* got right, search for files is on my panel :)
[04:09] <Necator> well afk back to reading stuff thx for help peeps
[04:09] <hyphenated> nickrud: I use 'locate' instead when possible
[04:09] <josh43> nickrud: Try this: 'sudo updatedb', then 'locate file'
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> nickrud, find isn't that hard :P
[04:09] <jighead> i love find
[04:09] <Gigglesworth> On the other hand, if you're not familar with the Commandline you can get lost. But I get lost in many Windows GUIs anyways. Where do I change the quote string ('>') in Outlook? It's buried deep within the GUI. Usage is all relative.
[04:09] <nickrud> hyphenated, me also, but it seems I always want to find something I just now lost
[04:09] <hyphenated> I hate find.
[04:10] <bobesponja> anyone?
[04:10] <nickrud> with 80GB, updatedb takes longer than, In the time you can do "Start: Search: For files and folders... "search for panda bear""
[04:10] <Gigglesworth> Locate works great, if it indexes automatically ;) GNU Find is mega-powerful.
[04:10] <hyphenated> I _might_ like it if it were like every other command in the world which uses the format 'command options files/directories'
[04:10] <tescoil> What's the status of real player and mplayer on breezy?  I'm finding webpages with mixed messages?
[04:10] <hyphenated> (because you can use xargs before it)
[04:10] <nickrud> I miss the old gnome1 gnome-find, it could do it all
[04:10] <nekostar> tescoil, realplayer is truely free
[04:11] <nekostar> :)
[04:11] <Earthen> can someone help with removing a program
[04:11] <hyphenated> didn't they rename it helix or somesuch?
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> Earthen, which prog ?
[04:11] <kevogod> Has anyone gotten Gens installed on Ubuntu?
[04:11] <josh43> nickrud, True, but you dont need to updatedb every time
[04:11] <_jason> tescoil:  mplayer is running fine for me on breezy
[04:11] <Earthen> wickedpuppy:  I installed webmin and it updates on it own a now it will not uninstall
[04:11] <bobesponja> about breezy and breezy-update in sources.list , can I uncomment both or do I need to chose anyone? :)
[04:11] <_carlos_venezuel> any girl? jeje
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> Earthen, try to uninstall in synaptic
[04:12] <cjserio> Can anyone give me a suggestion as to what i can use to tell what each process is using in terms of network bandwidth?
[04:12] <Gigglesworth> I always enjoy the look on people's faces when I do something like 'find . -type f -name "*.c" -exec grep "^# Foo" {} \;' --- I mean, what's not to love about that?
[04:12] <Earthen> wickedpuppy: now i got a problem trying to upgreade to breezy
[04:12] <Necator> !cedega
[04:12] <ubotu> help for cedega is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[04:12] <nickrud> josh43, true. I'm speaking of the, 'darn, what did I just do with that file?'
[04:12] <josh43> nickrud, Have you tried OSX spotlight? now there's a search app ;)
[04:12] <jighead> cjserio: nettop, etherape
[04:12] <Earthen> wickedpuppy: I've tried
[04:12] <_carlos_venezuel> last try; "any girl using linux?"
[04:12] <josh43> nickrud, Yeah, I'll agree with you on that.. my home dir is only 8GB, so it's manageable that way
[04:12] <cjserio> jighead: can i view the results of either of those over ssh or is it a gnome app?
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> Earthen, you want to remove webmin or upgrade to breezy ?
[04:12] <Earthen> wickedpuppy: also I tried atp-get -f remove ....
[04:12] <tescoil> _jason: synaptic sez it mplayer is "currently uninstallable" (?)
[04:12] <josh43> _carlos_venezuel, Tonnes of them
[04:12] <nickrud> josh43, no, no osx here
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> tescoil, error message pls ...
[04:13] <_carlos_venezuel> josh43: oh! great to hear that
[04:13] <_carlos_venezuel> so sad non answers
[04:13] <jighead> nettop is commandline etherape is gui, so nettop will work easily over ssh, but etherape you would need to forward your xconnection
[04:13] <Earthen> wickedpuppy: I've upgraded but this packages need to be removed so that other can be installed and i get an error
[04:13] <_carlos_venezuel> thx anyway
[04:13] <_carlos_venezuel> (y)
[04:13] <josh43> nickrud, When you are in a pc store next time, check it out.. magnifying glass in the top-right
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> Earthen, error message pls ?
[04:13] <_jason> tescoil:  what package exactly?
[04:13] <brian> I got my universal repository... thanks.. .now I loaded VLC and I am playing a movie but no sound
[04:13] <Earthen> wickedpuppy:  E: webmin-core: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
[04:13] <cjserio> jighead: thanks for the suggestion
[04:13] <infested_maggot> how come after i`ve installed a fresh .deb of java 1.5, when i type java -version, it prints out java version "1.4.2"
[04:13] <brian> is there a standard setting for that that I am missing?
[04:14] <wickedpuppy> hmms ...try apt-get --purge
[04:14] <tescoil> wickedpuppy: no error message, that's what synaptic says in description before you even select to download it.
[04:14] <Earthen> wickedpuppy: I think when webmin did it's own update that it installed in another dir
[04:14] <Gigglesworth> Maggot: Did you remove the old version of java?
[04:14] <wickedpuppy> Earthen, yes .. thats probably the one
[04:15] <infested_maggot> Gigglesworth: nop :D
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> tescoil, real or mplayer ? mplayer right ?
[04:15] <tescoil> wickedpuppy: mplayer
[04:15] <Earthen> wickedpuppy:  So how can i remove it with out breaking something
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> tescoil, remove and reinstall
[04:15] <flodine> can someone please tell me how to change the ubuntu logo next to application in task bar
[04:16] <wickedpuppy> Earthen, no idea .. i never update packages without going through synaptic
[04:16] <Gigglesworth> If they follow the recommended Sun instructions, Java is installed to /usr/j2se , and then a symlink is put in /bin -- (I think.. never could keep it straight).
[04:16] <_jason> flodine:  if you search the forums there are a few threads about it
[04:16] <flodine> ok thxs
[04:16] <rixth> I've never seen a thunderstorm so strong (as much lightning)
[04:17] <tescoil> wickedpuppy: didn't have it installed.  attemptic to select in synaptic gets "Application 'mplayer' not available."
[04:17] <Gigglesworth> Where you at?
[04:17] <rixth> New Zealand
[04:17] <Madpilot> flodine: there's a wiki howto on changing it, too. I'll dig up the URL
[04:17] <Earthen> Can someone tell me how to manually remove a program (webmin)
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> tescoil, you see mplayer in synaptic but when you select it , synaptic says not available ?
[04:17] <Gigglesworth> Ah. The storms won't reach here for a while then ;) (California)
[04:17] <rixth> To bad it isn't night time, it'd be ahell of a show.
[04:18] <cjserio> jighead: i just got jnettop and it does exactly what i wanted...thanks
[04:18] <jighead> cjserio: np
[04:18] <tescoil> wickedpuppy: co-rect.
[04:18] <josh43> Anyone know what package "xf86Version.h" is in?
[04:18] <Madpilot> flodine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomeFoot <-- from Hoary, so it's talking about removing the Gnome Foot, but the technique should still apply in Breezy
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> tescoil, refresh and try again ...
[04:19] <colen> trying to install real player 10 and having a few problems
[04:19] <jighead> Earthen: dpkg -r webmin, or dpkg -P webmin if you really want to get rid of it, man dpkg before you do anything
[04:19] <josh43> I'm following something that says I need the "X.Org SDK Package", but I have every xorg dev and lib package in synaptic and no-go
[04:19] <colen> "./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:19] <colen> " any ideas on why thats not working?
[04:19] <Earthen> jighead: thank you I will look into it
[04:20] <Necator> crossover support games like cedega or no?
[04:20] <robitaille> josh43, the file xf86Version.h is not in any packages in Ubuntu according to  http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:20] <dm> !tell dm about restricted
[04:20] <josh43> robitaille, Oh.. well that explains it.. Doh!
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> Necator, crossover is more for office , photoshop and itunes ... cedega is more for games ...
[04:20] <dm> whats the bots, for w32codecs, and playing MP3s
[04:21] <jighead> colen: you probably need to install libstdc++5-dev
[04:21] <josh43> !restrictedformats
[04:21] <ubotu> hmm... restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[04:21] <Necator> does cedega have gui?
[04:21] <josh43> dm: ------------------------------^
[04:21] <moo> point2play does
[04:21] <dm> isnt there an Apt-get or somthign lol
[04:22] <tescoil> wickedpuppy: okay, that looks to have worked.
[04:22] <colen> jighead, what is libstdc++5-dev
[04:22] <Necator> wickedpuppy does cedega have a gui?
[04:22] <powercat_> Hello. I'm trying to get my lucent winmodem to work in ubuntu. I've followed all the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WinModemLucent but when I type "modprobe -v ltserial" it tells me: WARNING: Error inserting ltmodem (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/other/ltmodem.ko): Invalid module format and my modem doesn't work.
[04:22] <josh43> dm; essentially, yes: read the wiki :P
[04:22] <Gigglesworth> Josh43: I think "xf86Version.h" is for Xfree86, and Ubuntu now uses x.org instead.
[04:22] <Earthen> jighead: I get pretty much the same errors using dpkg
[04:23] <nooz> hey mates :P
[04:23] <josh43> Gigglesworth, Yeah, it seems to imply that, but it's also trying to look do: --with-xorg-sdk=/usr/X11R6/lib/Server
[04:23] <dm> !tell dm about restricted formats
[04:23] <dm> !tell dm about restrictedformats
[04:23] <powercat_> Does anyone have a thinkpad T22?
[04:23] <Gigglesworth> what package are you trying to install?
[04:23] <Aven> Hello
[04:23] <josh43> !restrictedformats
[04:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[04:24] <Aven> I installed Apache2 but /etc/init.d/apache2 is not found
[04:24] <josh43> Gigglesworth, "evdev" driver: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/print.php?articleid=46
[04:24] <Aven> How do I start the webserver?
[04:24] <nooz> anyone knows how i can connect to a server with xchat like server:port
[04:24] <nooz> ?
[04:24] <Xyc0> hello everyone
[04:24] <Pablo_C> server/port
[04:24] <dm> josh43 i dont remember ever doing all that stuff.  i remember doing a couple Apt-gets and thats it
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> Necator, cedega ? no ... crossover yes ... gui isn't important
[04:25] <josh43> dm; when you get down to it, it /is/ a couple apt-gets.. just a restricted repository first
[04:25] <bytefoo> umm...for some reason
[04:25] <Necator> wickedpuppy for a beginner like me gui is important im not use to the terminal.
[04:25] <bytefoo> my entire filesystem is read-only now
[04:25] <nooz> Unknown host. Maybe you misspelled it?
[04:25] <bytefoo> and i don't know why :/
[04:25] <nooz> lawl :f
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> Necator, cedega /path/to/exe isn't that hard ... its just one line!
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> :P
[04:25] <jighead> colen: development files for the compiler
[04:26] <Gigglesworth> Aven:  /etc/init.d/apache2  is not installed by default, I don't think.
[04:26] <Earthen> jighead: would it hurt if i just delete the dir that webmin is in
[04:26] <Necator> ya but i dont know the paths there long :p
[04:26] <josh43> Necator, Like I say; it's easy once you associate ".exe" files with wine.. just double-click your program
[04:26] <Xyc0> Is there a way to use your wireless card to transmit FM frequencies?
[04:26] <Aven> Gigglesworth: how do I install it?
[04:26] <wickedpuppy> Aven, synaptic
[04:26] <jighead> Earthen: what directory would that be?
[04:26] <Aven> well, package name?
[04:26] <wickedpuppy> apache... isn't it what ya wanted ?
[04:26] <Aven> yes
[04:27] <josh43> Xyc0, No; different spectrum completely
[04:27] <Earthen> jighead: /etc/webmin
[04:27] <jighead> Earthen: you might want to try update-rc.d webin remove
[04:27] <Aven> I said I already installed apache2
[04:27] <Aven> but there's no apache.sh in the /etc/init.d directory
[04:27] <josh43> Xyc0, Cool idea though
[04:27] <wickedpuppy> but Gigglesworth said its not installed ... and you ask hwo to install
[04:27] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:27] <wickedpuppy> i am confused
[04:27] <Aven> Ok, here
[04:27] <jighead> Earthen: when you start removing directories like that you will leave things in /etc/init.d and /usr/share, and such that may cause other annoying errors to pop up
 Streaming mp4 file.  I'm looking for the best means of viewing it.  No luck yet.
[04:27] <Aven> I installed Apache2, how do I start it?
[04:28] <josh43> Aven, Put apache there :P
[04:28] <caonex_> anybody using the latest ati drivers?
[04:28] <Xyc0> josh43: Im trying to use my laptop to transmit an FM frequency for car audio.
[04:28] <Earthen> jighead: OK
[04:28] <Aven> put it where?
[04:28] <josh43> Aven; Isn't it just "apache start"?
[04:28] <wickedpuppy> ah now we are somewhere ... /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[04:28] <Xyc0> josh43: Would have made a ton easier if I already had the equip
[04:28] <josh43> Xyc0, Yeah, just grab one of those $20 iTrip things
[04:28] <Aven> ah
[04:28] <Gigglesworth> Aven: For now, you can install it from /usr/sbin/apache2ctl.
[04:29] <josh43> Xyc0, Cause without an fm transmitter; it's not happening
[04:29] <Gigglesworth> Oh... ignore what I said. Pay attention to the puppy.
[04:29] <Necator> josh42 i tryed navigating to them in the gui like u said and then pasting the locaton into the termainl but it says the location is wrong i think it uses diff charcthers for the paths.
[04:29] <tescoil> There seems to be a couplermore quicktime libraries, and I don't know which would be most elegantly installed.
[04:29] <josh43> Necator, Problem is, that's not what I said :)
[04:29] <Necator> josh43 what was it then?
[04:29] <tarheelcoxn> I followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA (including the troubleshooting section), but I still get HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[04:30] <dm> E: Couldn't find package j2rel.4, what repo do i need
[04:30] <tarheelcoxn> somebody have some help for me on DMA?
[04:30] <Amaranth> !dma
[04:30] <Amaranth> stupid bot
[04:30] <josh43> Necator, Open the GUI if you need the reference, then drop to a shell and do "cd dir" to change directories, and ls to list
[04:30] <tarheelcoxn> Amaranth: I just referenced the wiki
[04:30] <tarheelcoxn> Amaranth: I'm having trouble getting HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[04:31] <Amaranth> tarheelcoxn: Run it with sudo
[04:31] <colen> what is, and where can I get libstdc++5-dev
[04:31] <colen>   ??
[04:31] <tarheelcoxn> Amaranth: I ran it as root
[04:31] <powercat_> Hello. I'm trying to get my lucent winmodem to work in ubuntu. I've followed all the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WinModemLucent but when I type "modprobe -v ltserial" it tells me: WARNING: Error inserting ltmodem (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/other/ltmodem.ko): Invalid module format and my modem doesn't work.
[04:31] <Amaranth> tarheelcoxn: Then your drive doesn't support it.
[04:32] <Necator> ah it appears ive installed java wrong.
[04:32] <tarheelcoxn> Amaranth: this is a brand new NEC DVD burner... somehow I'm skeptical
[04:32] <josh43> Necator, The other HUGE help in the shell: type the first few characters of a directory, like "cd Progra" and press TAB
[04:32] <tarheelcoxn> Amaranth: is there something else that might be keeping it from setting that's not mentioned in the wiki
[04:32] <tarheelcoxn> ?
[04:33] <Amaranth> tarheelcoxn: Not that I'm aware of.
[04:33] <powercat_> anyone ever installed a lucent winmodme in linux?
[04:33] <Necator> josh43 can u help me install java? ive done everythign else in the wiki starter guide accept java i couldnt do that right.
[04:33] <josh43> !restrictedformats
[04:33] <ubotu> [restrictedformats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[04:33] <josh43> Try the Java section of that, Necator
[04:33] <trask_trojanek> Hello.
[04:33] <Necator> ya i did didnt help me much
[04:34] <josh43> Necator, Then I'm not going to be much help on that, sorry :)
[04:34] <ksmurf> How would I tunnel web browsing with shh?
[04:34] <wickedpuppy> web browsing with ssh ?
[04:34] <ksmurf> if there is a way
[04:34] <ksmurf> ssh
[04:35] <abk> Hey all
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> you ssh to somewhere and surf web from there ?
[04:35] <abk> , I've locked myself out of my machine
[04:35] <abk> er
[04:35] <N6REJ> can anyone help me please... I can't figure out why my wife can't check her email and I can
[04:35] <abk> locked myself out of sudoers
[04:35] <ksmurf> ah... is that the only way..... C**p
[04:35] <josh43> ksmurf, There is a way, but it's a pain in the ass.. high-level steps:
[04:36] <abk> and I need to boot into single-user mode to edit it
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> ksmurf, i don't know .. i am asking ya how you want to do it ...
[04:36] <trask_trojanek> I just took a quiz to figure out which Distro I should use and was pointed towards Ubuntu, can anyone give me some basic and technical pros/cons of Ubuntu?
[04:36] <ksmurf> josh 43 any suggestions?
[04:36] <abk> any help?
[04:36] <abk> trask
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> trask_trojanek, try live cd ...
[04:36] <ksmurf> abk
[04:36] <abk> yes?
[04:36] <josh43> ksmurf, 1) Install ssh server 2) Allow port-forwarding 3) Install a proxy server 4)forward the proxy ports through ssh 5)Point your browser to the forwarding ports
[04:36] <Gigglesworth> How'd you lock yourself out of your machine? You forgot your password?
[04:36] <wickedpuppy> abk, reboot ... and pass this to boot command line .. linux single
[04:36] <ksmurf> just restart grub in recover mode and add yourself as a sudoer
[04:37] <abk> no, it actually installed that way for some reason
[04:37] <abk> not sure how
[04:37] <abk> I'm using yaboot
[04:37] <ksmurf> then change your sudo password
[04:37] <abk> again
[04:37] <abk> useing yaboot
[04:37] <nickrud> trask_trojanek, basic: over 1000 developers maintaining 15,000+ packages, with a good degree of professionalism
[04:38] <abk> but wickedpuppy, you say I can just say linux single at startup?
[04:38] <ksmurf> josh43 k that cool except for the last 4 steps (lol)
[04:38] <wickedpuppy> abk thats how you get into single user mode ... i am not sure if ubuntu disabled it .. then it won't work
[04:38] <josh43> trask_trojanek, 6 month release cycle, with drastic improvements and thinning of code (gets faster as you go)
[04:38] <abk> :-
[04:38] <tarheelcoxn> trask_trojanek: if you have broadband and a decent CD burner, you should really burn one each of ubuntu live and kubuntu live
[04:38] <abk> okay
[04:38] <abk> I'll try that
[04:39] <abk> I'll tell you how it goes
[04:39] <trask_trojanek> What're the differences between Ubuntu and Kubuntu?
[04:39] <josh43> ksmurf, I warned you :P.. Sadly it's easier to make it work with a windows box as the ssh server
[04:39] <Gigglesworth> Colin: libstdc++5-dev is the header files for the standard C++ libraries. The package are required to compile some software. Look here for Breezy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/g++
[04:39] <bytefoo> dudes, i require immediate assistance: my entire filesystem, for some unknown reason, has been changed to read only
[04:39] <tarheelcoxn> trask_trojanek: the former has a gnome desktop, the latter has a KDE desktop
[04:39] <Chizn> Why cant i log on as root?
[04:39] <Chizn> i dont remembering being asked for a password
[04:39] <josh43> Chizn, You dont need root
[04:39] <tarheelcoxn> trask_trojanek: the former has a lot of brown by default, the latter has a lot of blue
[04:39] <Chizn> How do i become Super-User then?
[04:39] <pupil> ok,. I got my wireless up,. I just have a few more things to do,. how do I keep the settings I made with iwconfig ?
[04:39] <josh43> Chizn, For any 'root' command, try "sudo <command>"
[04:39] <ksmurf> wickedpuppy I was just asking about a way to do it.  I have my sftp and ssh connections up np but I was woundering how to websurf ssh style to help me with my wireless encryption (wep sucks)
[04:40] <caonex__> anybody knows about dpkg-divert?
[04:40] <josh43> Chizn, The pass it asks for is your user password
[04:40] <Chizn> Yes
[04:40] <tarheelcoxn> trask_trojanek: the best way to learn is to jump in with both feet
[04:40] <pupil> ok,. I got my wireless up,. I just have a few more things to do,. how do I keep the settings I made with iwconfig ?
[04:40] <GigaClon> why is the icon for the archive tool a bulldozer?
[04:40] <josh43> Chizn, Once you get used to it, sudo is _alot_ better of an idea and practice
[04:41] <Amaranth> Seveas: You're top community guy now?
[04:41] <Chizn> ah, ok then, thank you
[04:41] <dm> how do you change your name?
[04:41] <Madpilot> !tell Chizn about root
[04:41] <josh43> Chizn, yw.. btw, you can do sudo -s as well, for a root shell
[04:41] <Chizn> i am trying to install ATI propriatery drivers you see
[04:41] <FujiHOST> Hey all
[04:42] <dm> how do you change your name?
[04:42] <Chizn> so i did "sudo sh /path.sh" and it worked :o)
[04:42] <Chizn> thank you
[04:42] <josh43> Chizn, Did you try the BinaryDriverHowTo?
[04:42] <josh43> Chizn, Good stuff :)
[04:42] <absent> how would i access a ssh host through Ubuntu
[04:42] <FujiHOST> Can Somebody please tell me how to install java "jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin" or point me to a tutorial?
[04:43] <defendguin> does the ubuntu kernel have the ability to mount a ntfs partition?
[04:43] <Madpilot> defendguin: yes
[04:43] <Madpilot> !tell defendguin about ntfs
[04:43] <josh43> Anyone know where I can find "xf86Version.h"? it's supposed to be in "/usr/X11R6/lib/Server"
[04:43] <dm> Anyone know how to change your name in this channel
[04:43] <pupil> threeseas, what was that link you gave me,. I forgot to bookmark it,. you stilll there?
[04:43] <absent> nvm i used gftp
[04:43] <durt> FujiHOST: there should be a deb or repo somewhere: google "ubuntu backports"
[04:44] <dandelion> josh43: wild guess... maybe xlibs-dev ?
[04:44] <absent> : ) I am a genius
[04:44] <trask_trojanek> I'm looking for a nice distro that could be easily modified(very openly open-source, perhaps?) and very nice for hacking, probably with some default programming code readers, etc. Has anyone got an idea of what I could use? Or perhaps Ubuntu is the one I'm looking for?
[04:44] <jimmyjoe> what is fastest file system for Ubuntu 5.10 & Samba?
[04:44] <abk> :(
[04:44] <pupil> threeseas, my wireless is up,. thank you,. but i need to go back to that link
[04:44] <abk> no luck
[04:44] <josh43> dandelion, Nope, good guess tho :)
[04:44] <spoonman2> is there a decent dvd ripper?
[04:44] <abk> any more help on booting into single-user mode with yaboot?
[04:44] <nickrud> dm, if you're using xchat, just click your name in the lower left
[04:44] <josh43> trask_trojanek, Gentoo :)
[04:44] <bob2> spoonman2: thoggen, drip, apt-cache search dvd rip
[04:44] <bytefoo> how do i boot into single user mode
[04:45] <FujiHOST> ?
[04:45] <bob2> trask_trojanek: any distribution will be fine, pick whichever you like
[04:45] <bob2> trask_trojanek: if you have no idea, tho, ubuntu (or debian) would ab ea nice choice.
[04:45] <durt> !+backports
[04:45] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports. Also, Breezy does not have backports at the moment because there is no *later* distribution to backport from.
[04:45] <bob2> dm/nick whatever
[04:45] <bytefoo> someone told me i have to fsck my partition since my entire filesystem turned read only, and i have to do this in single user mode :(
[04:45] <josh43> trask_trojanek, If you anything at all about source code, and you are looking for that sort of thing, Gentoo is like diving into a pool of jello and naked women
[04:45] <FujiHOST> what is a deb and/or repo?
[04:45] <dandelion> josh43: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=xf86Version.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386
[04:45] <trask_trojanek> josh43, I've tried installing Gentoo once, to no luck. 'Tis a rather complicated process for me, have you got a link to a tutorial on installing, or something of hte like?
[04:45] <bob2> bytefoo: choose recovery mode from the grub menu
[04:46] <jimmyjoe> Is XFS & Samba the best combo for a Norton Ghost file server?
[04:46] <Gigglesworth> Fujuhost: You just need to  run "sh ./jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin" . It should be on the isntruction page where you got java from.
[04:46] <josh43> trask_trojanek, There is an install guide.. when did you last try? if it's 6+months, try again
[04:46] <bob2> FujiHOST: .deb = ubuntu's package format (from Debian), repository = collection of .debs in a form that apt can access automatically.
[04:46] <bob2> jimmyjoe: I'd be using ext3.
[04:46] <bytefoo> bob2, but then how do i do the fsck thing :/
[04:46] <bytefoo> or just change it back so its not read only :(
[04:46] <FujiHOST> thanks bob2
[04:46] <trask_trojanek> josh42, ah, okay, thank you very much.
[04:47] <bytefoo> i didnt even do anything it just switched on its own, magically :(
[04:47] <Gigglesworth> Bytefoo: That person was lying to you, or they were a Mac user. fsck won't fix the permissions.
[04:47] <bob2> bytefoo: if / is screwed, you're probably entirely screwed
[04:47] <durt> FujiHOST add those lines that ubotu said up there to /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:47] <jimmyjoe> bob: Using ext3 now with Ubuntu 5.10. It seems slow during Ghost sessions
[04:47] <josh43> dandelion, Yeah, that's what I found out about that about an hour ago, unfortunately.. I'm stuck now trying to find out why I dont have it
[04:47] <trex_dk> trask_trojansk: here's an gentoo install guide : http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml
[04:48] <bob2> Gigglesworth: eh? the kernel will remount filesystems read-only if they start failing
[04:48] <bytefoo> but why is it screwed
[04:48] <bob2> jimmyjoe: why do you think it's a filesystem issue
[04:48] <bob2> bytefoo: only you can find out by reading the end of "dmesg"
[04:48] <bob2> bytefoo: could be failing disk, loose cable, buggy kernel...
[04:48] <Gigglesworth> Bytefoo: can you create a file in the /tmp directory like 'touch /tmp/test' ?
[04:48] <bytefoo> no
[04:48] <bytefoo> its read only
[04:49] <bob2> bytefoo: inedeed, now read the output of dmesg
[04:49] <chaffinb> hi all
[04:49] <bob2> bytefoo: also read what I said to Gigglesworth a couple of minutes ago
[04:49] <bytefoo> [4294992.234000]  EXT3-fs error (device hda1): ext3_new_block: Allocating block in system zone - block = 7733765
[04:49] <Chizn> is there a maya build for linux?
[04:49] <trex_dk> bytefoo, i have just had exactly that problem today :)
[04:49] <Gigglesworth> But you do 'ls -ld /tmp' and the permissions look correct, right?
[04:49] <bytefoo> that doesn't sound good :|
[04:49] <jasonb_> hi im trying to install a package and experiencing circular dependency... i try to install an app but its saying some package is not yet configure when i try to configure it it says that the original package im trying to install is not yet configured? anyone know how to fix that? thanks
[04:49] <dandelion> josh43: that file doesn't even exist in debian
[04:49] <thechitowncubs> hey
[04:49] <bob2> Chizn: you'd have to talk to maya.
[04:49] <thechitowncubs> does anyone know when Flash 8 is coming out for linux?
[04:49] <josh43> dandelion, ? Really?
[04:49] <trex_dk> my ext3 filesystem suddenly turned out to be read-only on my usbdisk!
[04:50] <Necator> i get this error when im trying to install java
[04:50] <bob2> jasonb_: why are you using dpkg to do this?
[04:50] <Chizn> ok, thanks
[04:50] <Necator> ./j2eesdk-1_4_02_2005Q2-linux.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:50] <bob2> trex_dk: that could mean disk failure, look at the bottom of "dmesg"'s output
[04:50] !lilo:*! US users: "Spring forward, fall back." Before you go to sleep, set your non-computer clocks back one hour. We'll assume you've all got computer clocks configured to UTC and set to skip back on their own. Well, we hope. :)
[04:50] <Necator> anyone know how to repair that?
[04:50] <chaffinb> i'm having a hard time figuring out what kind of video card i have ubilt on on my motherboard
[04:50] <jasonb_> bob2 is there a different way?
[04:50] <josh43> dandelion, But, http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/print.php?articleid=46 did it against ubuntu 5.04 with no issues
[04:50] <Chizn> what is xfree86-dga?
[04:50] <defendguin> Madpilot, i just plugged in an a laptop harddrive to my laptop using a usb adapter but it doesnt automout and running the script described on that page doesnt work
[04:50] <bob2> Necator: so go to packages.ubuntu.com and find the package that has that file
[04:50] <chaffinb> is there any utility out there for recoginizing it?
[04:50] <bob2> Chizn: something you don't want or need
[04:50] <trex_dk> my problem is fixed now
[04:50] <Chizn> oki doke :o)
[04:50] <bob2> chaffinb: you almost certainly don't need to care
[04:50] <Gigglesworth> bob2 is on a roll!
[04:50] <bytefoo> bob2, you said that it will mount filesystem as readonly if its failing, but how can i fix it o_O
[04:50] <chaffinb> well i'm stuck at 600*800
[04:50] <FujiHOST> when i try to launch a deb file it says archive not supported
[04:50] <bob2> jasonb_: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[04:50] <bytefoo> this block seems to be the error :|
[04:51] <bob2> bytefoo: find out what the problem is
[04:51] !lilo:*! (I'm told Canadian users "fall back" at the same time. Thanks!)
[04:51] <bytefoo> i just pasted it :/
[04:51] <trex_dk> when i reattached the disk, it said that it was a read-only filesystem!
[04:51] <bob2> bytefoo: if you're getting that error, it's time to power it off, and check all the cables are tight
[04:51] <jasonb_> bob2 i dont want to use apt-get because all the dependencies are already in my local drive and i don't want to double download cuz im low on internet quota
[04:51] <gpg> hello there
[04:51] <bob2> chaffinb: so say that...http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:51] <bytefoo> it's a laptop, there are no cables :/
[04:51] <bob2> 14:50:12           bob2 | trex_dk: that could mean disk failure, look at the bottom of "dmesg"'s output
[04:51] <chaffinb> thanks
[04:51] <jasonb_> bob2: does Synaptic download from the net automatically?
[04:51] <nalioth> jasonb_: apt wont 'double-download' if the things are already installed
[04:51] <bob2> bytefoo: try rebooting then, perhaps it will magically fix itself
[04:51] <bytefoo> i did that :|
[04:51] <gpg> is anybody know how to upgrade to latest version of software in ubuntu
[04:51] <bob2> bytefoo: unless you've been playing with hdparm, tho, it's probably physical disk failure
[04:52] <jasonb_> how about synaptic
[04:52] <bob2> gpg: /topic
[04:52] <bob2> jasonb_: yes, of course.
[04:52] <bytefoo> :(
[04:52] <trask_trojanek> josh43: i should get the universal install for gentoo right?
[04:52] <jasonb_> bob2 yes of course it wouldnt download twice?
[04:52] <bob2> jasonb_: if they're in /var/cache/apt/archives/, apt will use them
[04:52] <bob2> trask_trojanek: sounds likee this conversation is more approriate for #gentoo
[04:52] <Gigglesworth> Bytefoo: I'd copy important stuff to another disk.
[04:52] <gpg> bob2, dont want to upgrade to breezy yet
[04:52] <trex_dk> bytefoo, my suggestion is to 'umount /dev/hda1' and run a 'fsck.ext3 /dev/hda1'
[04:53] <bob2> gpg: then you'll need to learn to love the programs in hoary
[04:53] !lilo:*! (parts of Western Europe have apparently switched as well.... apologies for not keeping on top of this; I guess it's easier to think about just your local timezones, because you have to go wind the clocks locally 8)
[04:53] <jasonb_> can you help me what command line i need to type?
[04:53] <trex_dk> worth a try.. it did work for me
[04:53] <bob2> jasonb_: move the .debs to /var/cache/apt/archives/.  I have no idea how or where you put them.
[04:53] <jasonb_> but i don't need to apt-get right cuz its already installed and just needs to be configured?
[04:53] <gpg> bob2 , what if i reinstall it..
[04:53] <bob2> gpg: what?
[04:53] <josh43> trask_trojanek, I assume..  I've showed it to everyone I know that likes linux and knows a little programming, they go NUTS
[04:53] <bob2> jasonb_: if you can't figure out dependency issues yourself, you should be using apt-get.
[04:54] <gpg> bob2, say you have gaim1.1 and the new one is gaim1.5 , how to upgrade?
[04:54] <bob2> !+info gaim breezy
[04:54] <josh43> trask_trojanek, But, bob2 is right; Best to ask in #gentoo (though, my personal beleif is that if you have the time, get the 40MB source-only install disk ;)
[04:54] <ubotu> gaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.5.0-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 814 kB, Installed size: 2148 kB
[04:54] <bob2> gpg: you use breezy
[04:54] <jasonb_> so if i put the .debs in the dir you mentioned apt-get will get them there instead?
[04:54] <Gigglesworth> !+info gaim breezy
[04:55] <bob2> jasonb_: if they have the correct md5sums and such, yes.
[04:55] <Chia-gone> Hey guys. I"m trying to remember the name of the open source TiVop type stuff that runs on *nix.. Any clues?
[04:55] <dandelion> josh43: seen this thread ? http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/09/msg02278.html
[04:55] <josh43> Chia-gone, MythTV
[04:55] <Chia-gone> Excellent -- that's it exactly.
[04:55] <Chia-gone> Thanks.
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> THen theres an alternative to MythTV also.
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> i forget  its name.
[04:55] <jasonb_> its apt-get install "pkgname" ...right?
[04:55] <bob2> jasonb_: if your apt database is up to date, yes
[04:55] <josh43> dandelion, Wow.. I'm plressed.. usually I can find it if it exists, but I did not find that
[04:55] <Chia-gone> Dr_Willis, Okey. Thanks anyway.
[04:55] <gpg> bob2, if i upgrade to breezy .. will all my settings be the same?
[04:56] <bob2> gpg: yes...
[04:56] <kevogod> Freevo?
[04:56] <josh43> plressed=impressed ;)
[04:56] !lilo:*! For further information on daylight savings time transitions: http://www.timeanddate.com/time/dst2005b.html
[04:56] <absent> hey
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> kevogod,  yea - that sounds right "FreeVo"
[04:57] <intelikey> i was installing software with apt over a 56k modem and kept getting E (something about package error)  i finally manually rm'd the copy in /var/cache/apt/archives/... and tried it again.  well it had to re-download it but it finally worked.  not that it will actually help any body, just wanted to rant.
[04:57] <gpg> bob2, i m just worried that all my setting will go away..is there anyway ..if breezy messes up i can get back the hoary?
[04:57] <Necator> bob2 got it working. had to locate the darn libirary and install it =(
[04:57] <bob2> gpg: nope
[04:57] <bob2> Necator: yes
[04:57] <bob2> Necator: yay for crappy binary-only software
[04:57] <Necator> bob2 was hard to find =(
[04:57] <josh43> gpg; No easy way that's less trouble than setting it up again
[04:57] <Necator> but finally i get java!
[04:58] <paladinew> Is there a VPN client for 5.10 ???
[04:58] <bob2> paladinew: there's dozens
[04:58] <bob2> paladinew: what sort of VPN do you want to connect to?
[04:58] <thechitowncubs> i wish flash was good
[04:58] <kevogod> Most likely PPTP
[04:58] <gpg> josh43, r u using breezy?
[04:58] <Doonz> in a raid 0+1 config can you have 7 + 1 drives or would it have to be 6 + 1 or 8 +1
[04:59] <gpg> josh43, what is the better? what is the difference? did anything go wrong while upgrading to breezy?
[04:59] <paladinew> I need to connect to a vpn server sunning on WIN 2003 server
[04:59] <paladinew> er running
[04:59] <Necator> bob2 does this java make it work in firefox also?
[04:59] <Gigglesworth> Can I use my Ubuntu 5.10 Live disk as an install disk?
[04:59] <bob2> Necator: not unless you setup the plugin
[04:59] <bob2> Gigglesworth: not really
[04:59] <jasonb_> bob2: if i put the deb files in the dir you mentioned do they ind deb files have to be in that dir per se or can i group related pkgs in a subdir within that directory? thanks heaps
[04:59] <Necator> bob2 where do i do that at?
[04:59] <bob2> paladinew: then you need pptp stuff
[04:59] <bob2> Necator: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:00] <bob2> jasonb_: no, they all go in the one directory
[05:00] <kevogod> paladinew, pptp-linux
[05:00] <paladinew> is pptp installed by default on breezy ?
[05:00] <jasonb_> bob2 so they should all be mixed up in that one subdir
[05:00] <bob2> jasonb_: yes, of course
[05:00] <jasonb_> ok ill do that now thanks
[05:00] <bob2> paladinew: no
[05:00] <kevogod> paladinew, I do not believe so.
[05:00] <jasonb_> i just wanted to group related packages
[05:00] <bob2> paladinew: pptp-linux - Point-to-Point Tunneling Protocol (PPTP) Client
[05:00] <bob2> jasonb_: why?
[05:01] <bob2> paladinew: install that
[05:01] <paladinew> ok
[05:01] <gpg> bob2, what is the better? what is the difference? did anything go wrong while upgrading to breezy?
[05:01] <FujiHOST> when i try to launch a deb file it says archive not supported
[05:01] <FujiHOST> ?
[05:01] <bob2> FujiHOST: why would you try to "launch a deb file"?
[05:01] <GigaClon> FujiHOST, you have to do it from a terminal
[05:01] <mhz> Anyone know where i can download MN720-ankh.inf from?
[05:01] <bob2> FujiHOST: if you're trying to install something, use synaptic
[05:01] <intelikey> i didn't know .deb's were supposed to be exec.
[05:01] <bob2> gpg: better?
[05:01] <GigaClon> dpkg -i name_of_deb
[05:02] <sizzam> intelikey,  i think they open in fileroller
[05:02] <gpg> bob2, hoary or breezy?
[05:02] <FujiHOST> ok
[05:02] <pintosinto> free
[05:02] <pintosinto>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[05:02] <pintosinto> Mem:        776064     763708      12356          0      33036     187844
[05:02] <FujiHOST> what commands do i type before the package name
[05:02] <josh43> gpg; Basically; image the drive first, and I am on breezy, though I chose to format anyways (I upgraded to 5.04 with no issues, but I moved from amd64 hoary to i386 Breezy, so I formatted
[05:02] <pintosinto> how much memory does that mean i have?
[05:02] <Necator> insufficnt disk space to install java =(
[05:02] <Necator> just when i got it to work too
[05:02] <bob2> gpg: use whatever you wanyt
[05:02] <colen> can somone give me a little guideance on installing something
[05:02] <bob2> FujiHOST: no, stop. what are you trying to install?
[05:03] <FujiHOST> Java
[05:03] <pintosinto> can someone tell me how much memory ^ shows?
[05:03] <bob2> colen: it's way easier if you just ask your question
[05:03] <intelikey> yes sizzam i was being a pain.   they open in mc also :)
[05:03] <pintosinto> 776064
[05:03] <bob2> FujiHOST: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:03] <pintosinto> is that half gig?
[05:03] <bob2> pintosinto: please don't paste in here
[05:03] <paladinew> do I apt-get "PPTP" ???
[05:03] <pintosinto> i'm sorry.
[05:03] <bob2> pintosinto: it means you have 776064 KB of memory
[05:03] <FujiHOST> j2re1.4_<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3_i386.deb
[05:03] <FujiHOST> ok
[05:03] <pintosinto> so that is 512 right?
[05:03] <colen> I am trying to install realplayer 10.  I have downloaded both the bin and rpm version off of there site
[05:03] <bob2> paladinew: no, you read what I said and then install the pptp-linux package...
[05:03] <bob2> colen: why do you want realplayer?
[05:03] <pintosinto> 512mb* right?
[05:03] <bob2> pintosinto: no, not at all
[05:03] <gpg> bob2, can you plz gimme a link where i can download breezy in a cd?
[05:04] <pintosinto> how much would that be?
[05:04] <bob2> pintosinto: it's 776064 KB
[05:04] <colen> I need that, or some other software to play rm files in
[05:04] <jasonb_> is apt-get equivalent to the function synaptic?
[05:04] <pintosinto> OK
[05:04] <bob2> colen: mplayer/etc can play rm files...
[05:04] <bob2> jasonb_: mostly
[05:04] <josh43> dandelion, Ok, your help learned me a few things: Dont follow howtos blindly, how to install a(n existing) module, and how to compile a c program :)
[05:04] <bob2> gpg: why do you wan tthe CD? you can just upgrade your hoary system to it.
[05:04] <dandelion> josh43: I'm glad then :)
[05:05] <josh43> dandelion, Turns out, ubuntu has the evdev driver already there.. I tried specifying it in xorg, but it wasn't running
[05:05] <colen> bob2, myplayer will not play all of the files
[05:05] <intelikey> jasonb_ synaptic is more or less the eq. of aptitude.
[05:05] <bob2> colen: you have the windows dlls installed?
[05:05] <colen> bob2: no
[05:06] <colen> bob2:  I am new and I do not know what I am doing.
[05:06] <josh43> colen; find xbmc, and grab the dll files from it.. it has all of them, including wm9
[05:06] <jasonb_> bob2 worked like a charm you're a life savah! thanks mate!
[05:06] <bob2> colen: /msg ubotu w32codecs
[05:06] <jasonb_> intelikey thanks
[05:06] <GigaClon> !tell colen about w32codecs
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> Tell the World about the Wonders of Ubuntu. :P
[05:07] <josh43> brb
[05:07] <Pablo_C> !tell Pablo_C  about w32codecs
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> "Ubuntu Users and the women that love them" on the next Jenny Jones!
[05:07] <GigaClon> Pablo_C, you can also just say !tell me about blah]
[05:07] <beford> !tell beford about windows
[05:07] <Gigglesworth> I'm probably going to replace my Debian machine here with Ubuntu. I feel excited, but dirty :)
[05:07] <beford> oops
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> Using Ubuntu mainly these days here.
[05:08] <colen> how do i go about intalling a bin file?>
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> sh whatever.bin
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> you RUN a bin file
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:08] <beford> chmod +x file.bin
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> i hate the idea of a .bin file.
[05:09] <bob2> colen: doing what I suggested is a fair bit simpler
[05:09] <intelikey> . whatever.bin
[05:09] <bob2> sourcing a .bin file like that is unlikely to do anything useful
[05:09] <colen> bob2:  I am not able to intall mplayer on my machine, it tells me that it is not avaible
[05:10] <bob2> colen: uh
[05:10] <bob2> colen: why didn't you say that then?
[05:10] <bob2> colen: wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:10] <bob2> colen: it's in multiverse
[05:10] <FujiHOST> i need to install sun java using th debfile
[05:10] <colen> I had mplayer working with linspire, but it would not play 80% of my rm files
[05:10] <FujiHOST> what commands do i put before the package name
[05:10] <bob2> FujiHOST: please read the wiki page I pointed you at
[05:11] <bob2> FujiHOST: you could have been done by now and drinking a beer if you'd done so to begin with...
[05:11] <bob2> colen: then install hte windows dlls as I suggested
[05:11] <intelikey> dpkg -i
[05:11] <colen> but I still need to get mplayer working right?
[05:12] <bob2> colen: yes, reading that page I pointed you at will get you mplayer in about 3 minutes
[05:12] <bob2> depending on internet connection speed
[05:15] <colen> bob2: thank you for all your help, I will let you know how I make out.
[05:17] <bytefoo> hey guys
[05:17] <bytefoo> fsck.ext3 fixed it
[05:17] <TiMiDo> hey bytefoo
[05:17] <bytefoo> thanks :)
[05:17] <TiMiDo> np (:
[05:17] <bytefoo> 8D
[05:17] <bob2> that's unlikely to be a permanent fix
[05:17] <Gigglesworth> Congrats bytefoo.
[05:17] <bytefoo> why :/
[05:17] <bob2> given the cause seems to be hardware
[05:17] <Gigglesworth> Backup your stuff soon.
[05:17] <bob2> so do make sure you have backups
[05:17] <bytefoo> why would it be hardware
[05:18] <bob2> what else would it be?
[05:18] <bytefoo> corrupted filesystem
[05:18] <Gigglesworth> Most disk failures are due to the hardware, not the software.
[05:18] <bob2> and what do you think caused that?
[05:18] <bytefoo> too much i/o :|
[05:18] <bob2> no
[05:18] <bob2> how would that cause incorrect data to be written to the disk?
[05:19] <Gigglesworth> I've had 3 of my personal HD's crash in the last year. I wish I backed up better.
[05:19] <bytefoo> no idea
[05:19] <Chizn> how would i get a program to run at startup?
[05:19] <Chizn> in x
[05:20] <bob2> what program?
[05:20] <caonex__> I have ubuntu breezy installed and I am just encountered the file /etc/ld.so.conf having all the lib32 paths, but no lib64 or lib. Is this suppose to be normal in an amd64 ubuntu system?
[05:20] <Chizn> like any program
[05:20] <bytefoo> it's been my experience that most HD failures are accompanied by sounds :/
[05:20] <Chizn> say like.. firefox?
[05:20] <Noli> Hey guys, can anyone tell me where I could get the latest version of Mono Develop for 5.10?
[05:21] <Gigglesworth> Bytefoo: Not always. There could be a loose wire, faulty chip, a short...etc.
[05:21] <bob2> caonex__: yes, leave it alone
[05:21] <bob2> Chizn: system -> preferences -> session, add it
[05:21] <bungle> is there any other guis with ubuntu other than gnowe
[05:21] <bungle> gnome
[05:21] <bob2> Noli: presumably the mono website has the source for it
[05:21] <bob2> bungle: dozens
[05:21] <caonex__> bob2, i am having a conflict with an ati driver fglrx
[05:21] <bytefoo> better hock it on eBay and get that powerbook i've been eyeing then ;)
[05:21] <bob2> caonex__: that is unelated to it
[05:21] <bungle> where is like a console display manager which I can flick though them
[05:21] <Noli> bob2, ok, but I'm unsure about building it myself
[05:22] <bob2> caonex__: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:22] <bob2> !+info monodevelop breezy
[05:22] <ubotu> monodevelop: (C#/Boo/Java/Nemerle/ILasm Development Environment), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 0.7-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1308 kB, Installed size: 4788 kB
[05:22] <bob2> bungle: no
[05:22] <Chizn> ubuntu is great isnt it!
[05:22] <caonex__> bob2, oh i see....i cant use that howto, it does not work with my card
[05:22] <Chizn> thanks bob2
[05:22] <bungle> bob2 I am guessing i have to install them myself??
[05:22] <bob2> caonex__: are you using breezy?
[05:22] <LoneWolf071> how would i play .wmv videos?
[05:22] <bungle> as there not preinstalled
[05:22] <Gigglesworth> A high I/O on the drive probably wouldn't corrupt your root partition. It might create some unusable file somewhere, but you would still be able to read and write to the drive.
[05:22] <caonex__> bob2, i have done it three times and the only way i can get it working, fglrx, is by using the latest driver by ati
[05:22] <caonex__> bob2, yes i am
[05:22] <bob2> bungle: yes, ubuntu does not install all 3 000 available wms by default ;)
[05:23] <bob2> caonex__: that is odd
[05:23] <bungle> lmfao
[05:23] <bob2> LoneWolf071: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:23] <caonex__> bob2, i think it has to do with my card
[05:23] <bungle> thanks
[05:23] <caonex__> bob2, most people that has worked for I have confirmed they have radeon 9600 or something
[05:23] <intelikey> bungle xorg or xfree  those are your graphic user interfaces.  gnome kde xfce twm icewm fluxbox blackbox ....  are all desktop environments that use the gui
[05:24] <bob2> caonex__: no, it works for lots of people with pimp video cards, (ie pci-i X600 ones)
[05:24] <Noli> groan, I actually ment for 5.04, but packages don't download anymore :(
[05:24] <bungle> yes intelikey .. whats the command to change to a different gui rather than the default gnome
[05:24] <caonex__> bob2, after i did that, the blank screen appeared and even adding the "MonitorLayout" option, it did not work.
[05:24] <Chizn> how would i run an embedded movie in firefox?
[05:24] <Chizn> like a mpg or whatever, you know the type?
[05:24] <bob2> Noli: ?
[05:25] <caonex__> bob2, well i have the 200M, and they do not work, not changing anything to the xorg.conf i switch modules and it works with one but not the other.
[05:25] <intelikey> bungle install your choice of desktops and they will be in the list at login.
[05:25] <caonex__> bob2, i was reading that i may have to use dpkg-divert to fix the problem
[05:25] <Noli> bob2, one of the repos hasn't been online for a while, so I can't update mono on 5.04
[05:25] <bungle> tru ok ... so gnome is the only one installed at the moment .. if I just done a default install
[05:25] <bob2> caonex__: "with one but not the other"?
[05:26] <caonex__> bob2, i was reading that the installation is not overriding the libmesa libraries, so instead of overwriting it making apt not work, one should use dpkg-divert
[05:26] <bob2> Noli: uh, pelase don't tell me you're talking about mirrormax "backports"
[05:26] <Gigglesworth> bungle: yes. Gnome is the only one installed by default.
[05:26] <bob2> caonex__: the packages do that automatically
[05:26] <caonex__> bob2, yeah, the one from the binary, included with ubuntu, and the one from ati, the latest
[05:26] <bungle> bah my b/f farts soooooo much .. he talks out his ass more than his mouth
[05:26] <caonex__> bob2, not with alien
[05:26] <intelikey> bungle yes.
[05:26] <bungle> males such ferals at times
[05:27] <cyphase> hey everyone
[05:27] <Noli> bob2, I'm trying to work out on what repo the monodevelop stuff is on
[05:27] <iceman> Anyone here familure with IBM Servers ?
[05:27] <caonex__> bob2, is that what you talking about, i found a lot of tutorials using dpkg-divert because of apt problems when forcing overwrite
[05:27] <Noli> bob2, yep, its on the mirrormax backports :/
[05:27] <windex> iceman, blade or otherwise?
[05:27] <Amaranth> bungle: I hope he doesn't talk out his mouth a lot. :P
[05:27] <bob2> Noli: disable that repository then
[05:27] <vladuz976_> if dmesg tells me "usb-storage: device found at 2" what exactly do i know from that? how can i mount the device?
[05:27] <jbalint> hi guys, i am having a problem with sound. it is not working. everthing looks like it should and i check the forums and didn't find any solution. my card shows up in System->Prefs->Sound, but the test sounds don't play. I tried alsamixer and everything is turned on. Any ideas?
[05:27] <bob2> iceman: best to just ask your question
[05:28] <xsquared> what is this channel's help bot?
[05:28] <bob2> caonex__: uh, if you use alien, you lose
[05:28] <caonex__> bob2, so supposedly for that reason when i run glxinfo i get the libmesa libraries
[05:28] <bob2> xsquared: ubotu
[05:28] <caonex__> bob2, i cant get the debian files
[05:28] <bob2> caonex__: aliened packages will require manual fiddling
[05:28] <windex> ubotu, tell xsquared about ubotu
[05:28] <Madpilot> ubotu tell xsquared about yourself
[05:28] <toogreen> my system is strangely slow... feels like the swap is not working... how to check if my SWAP is being used properly?
[05:28] <caonex__> bob2, i told the ati binary to generate the ubuntu breezy package and it returned errors
[05:28] <bob2> caonex__: just try the ati tarballs then, if you're really sure breezy's ones do not support your card
[05:28] <bob2> caonex__: and file a bug
[05:28] <bob2> caonex__: ok
[05:28] <iceman> windex as400 series ... curently has UNIX on it ... now I can get it fairly cheap, but it's either Hack UNIX or .. install Linux .. if "LINUX" can be Installed ...
[05:28] <bob2> toogreen: "free -m", paste the output to #flood
[05:28] <iceman> windex but what Distro ?
[05:28] <intelikey> jbalint look for it at /dev/sd?
[05:28] <caonex__> bob2, i used that one, and it is even worse because it does not include the binaries like glxinfo
[05:29] <jbalint> intelikey: /dev/snd?
[05:29] <windex> iceman, is it a PPC as400?
[05:29] <caonex__> bob2, in the ati channel they told me to use the rpm because it seems that the automatic ati installation leaves all that out
[05:29] <Madpilot> caonex_: see the wiki ATI page for details, but I had to drop back to the command line to get 3d accel working in Breezy w/ my ATI 9600XT
[05:29] <toogreen> bob2, just did past in #flood
[05:29] <intelikey> jbalint didn't you ask about mounting a usb device ?
[05:29] <iceman> windex Dont know ... I know little about it .. just where it is ...
[05:29] <jbalint> intelikey: No, about my sound not working. :)
[05:30] <caonex__> bob2, ?
[05:30] <windex> iceman, well, if it's a powerpc based as400, you ought to be able to get PPC linux working.
[05:30] <intelikey> jbalint sorry i missread.
[05:30] <caonex__> bob2, brb
[05:30] <xsquared> no, lol, i want to know what software is the bot
[05:30] <iceman> windex guessing it's a quad processor .... from my little resurch ..
[05:30] <windex> iceman, check the hardware specs against the debian compatibility list?
[05:30] <xsquared> is it the same bot that #debian uses?
[05:30] <Noli> bob2, so whats wrong with the mirrormax backports?
[05:30] <bob2> iceman: what cpu is that?
[05:30] <bob2> Noli: gone
[05:30] <Noli> bob2, is there a replacement? :/
[05:31] <bob2> xsquared: same software, different instance of it and a different db
[05:31] <bob2> Noli: just don't use it
[05:31] <Madpilot> xsquared: /whois ubotu
[05:31] <bob2> toogreen: that looks fine
[05:31] <Noli> bob2, but I can't get monodevelop from anywhere else :/
[05:31] <bob2> Noli: yes. you. can.
[05:31] <bob2> !+info monodevelop hoary
[05:31] <ubotu> monodevelop: (C#/Java/Nermele/ILasm Development Environment), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 0.5.1-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 1533 kB, Installed size: 5568 kB
[05:31] <bungle> do I download a binary ... cause if I have no gcc I can't download a source
[05:31] <bob2> Noli: monodevelop is in hoary itself
[05:31] <bungle> well I can download it but not install it
[05:31] <toogreen> bob2 yeah thats what i thought.. strange.. i used to run mandrake b4 and it wasn't that slow :(
[05:31] <yarddog> if i play a file from quicktime, it wont open mplayer, it opens totem, how can i change the file extension preferences for this?
[05:32] <bob2> bungle: install build-essential  and you will be able to compile things
[05:32] <iceman> not sure, from IBM .. looks to be IBM's 64 bit ... but until i decide to Get it and start learning.. I know very little ... why i'm gathering info and asking questions
[05:32] <bob2> bungle: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[05:32] <Noli> bob2, ok, and thats the out of date version :(
[05:32] <bob2> Noli: so use breezy
[05:32] <bob2> Noli: geez
[05:32] <Noli> I can't :(
[05:32] <bungle> wikid tah bob2 ... I had trouble the other day cause gcc wasn't installed
[05:32] <bob2> Noli: anything that was in "hoary backports" is going to be older or the same version as it is in breezy
[05:32] <iceman> or, anyone know a way to "HACK" the unix password ?
[05:32] <caonex__> bob2, so what is your suggestion?
[05:32] <bungle> each linux different yet the same
[05:32] <bungle> iceman
[05:32] <bytefoo> haxor the gibson :|
[05:32] <bungle> brute force
[05:32] <bungle> and patience
[05:32] <bob2> iceman: if it's AIX, it's simple to circumvent, use google.
[05:33] <intelikey> iceman johntheripper
[05:33] <bob2> caonex__: I'd be very surprised if the ubuntu drivers didn't work, but if so, I'd file a bug and then install the ati drivers manually
[05:33] <iceman> bob2 why i'm asking ... thats helps some ...
[05:33] <caonex__> bob2, did you see what i sent you?
[05:33] <caonex__> bob2, the private
[05:33] <bob2> caonex__: no
[05:33] <caonex__> bob2, i sent you a private
[05:33] <WebLOCH> im back
[05:33] <bob2> caonex__: ok
[05:34] <WebLOCH> wickedpuppy, are you still about ?
[05:34] <yddrasil> anyone in here install ubuntu on mac to dual boot?
[05:34] <caonex__> bob2, did you get it already?
[05:34] <bob2> caonex__: no
[05:34] <bob2> yddrasil: lots of people have
[05:34] <bob2> iceman: http://www.unix.com/archive/index.php/t-18760.html
[05:34] <caonex__> bob2, let me pastebin it
[05:34] <burepe> I got a harddrive I can't unmount, any suggestions?
[05:34] <iceman> So, it's a few years old server, pulled working ... believe the guy has the UNIX software, but if i get it, I would much rather put "LINUX" on it ...
[05:34] <burepe> I get a device is busy error
[05:34] <bungle> I am so sure I haven't found the right source file for kubuntu .. it has to be bigger than 7k
[05:34] <bob2> iceman: "UNIX" is not a useful description of the OS
[05:34] <bob2> bungle: install kubuntu-desktop
[05:35] <bob2> iceman: it's presumably AIX
[05:35] <bob2> burepe: wtf
[05:35] <bob2> burepe: lsof | grep baby
[05:35] <caonex__> bob2, http://caonex.pastebin.com/410652
[05:35] <burepe> I never got it fixed
[05:35] <caonex__> bob2, look i still do not want to file a bug because i want to understand the problem
[05:35] <iceman> bob2 he just called it "UNIX" so yea i'm using the "general term" i would guess AIX as well ...
[05:35] <yarddog> when i click on a movie trailer file from quicktime.com, it wants to open totem, i want it to open mplayer, how can i remedy this?
[05:36] <bob2> iceman: then he/she is clueless or confused
[05:36] <burepe> bob2, just returns
[05:36] <caonex__> bob2, i wanted to show you that because i have found different ways of doiong that and i want to make sure that i use the one that is right and wont mess my system up
[05:36] <bob2> burepe: and lsof | grep /dev/whateverthedevicenameis
[05:36] <iceman> So, basicly it's a PPC ... any one have a link to Debian compatability ?
[05:37] <Noli> bob2, I'll try a manual install, thanks anyhow :)
[05:37] <bob2> Noli: what?
[05:37] <bob2> Noli: just upgrade to breezy
[05:37] <bob2> iceman: http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/
[05:37] <burepe> bob2,  posted in flood
[05:37] <Noli> bob2, I can't, don't have a copy/can't get a copy
[05:37] <bob2> burepe: "cd / && sudo umount /media/baby120"
[05:37] <caonex__> bob2, my private messages are being blocked
[05:37] <iceman> bob2 "HE" is about 70, and has a lot of OLD junk.. but this Server is fairly new ... he has some old Quad P75's ... but this is a lot newer
[05:37] <bob2> Noli: if you have internet access, you can upgrade
[05:37] <bob2> caonex__: that's fine
[05:38] <caonex__> bob2, did you understand the divert command
[05:38] <colen> bob2:  I got mplayer working now, as for the codecs, I downlaoded w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb, but not certain on what to do next.
[05:38] <Noli> bob2, only if I want to wait 12 days while it downloads...
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> HI folks I am compling a command line yahoo messenger
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> I am getting this error
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> root@ash:/home/ashish/freehoo# ./autogen.sh
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> + aclocal
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> + autoheader
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> + libtoolize --force --automake --copy
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> + automake --gnu --include-deps --copy --add-missing
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> configure.ac: 16: required file `./[config.h] .in' not found
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> + autoconf
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> root@ash:/home/ashish/freehoo# automake
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> configure.ac: 16: required file `./[config.h] .in' not found
[05:38] <bob2> ar linuxgeek2
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> root@ash:/home/ashish/freehoo#
[05:38] <xsquared> linuxgeek2: paste somewhere else
[05:38] <burepe> bob2,  i think it worked. I did the same thing yesterday, weird. thanks alot
[05:38] <bob2> colen: sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> I am sorry
[05:38] <bob2> burepe: np
[05:39] <xsquared> linuxgeek2: and, don't compile your own
[05:39] <linuxgeek2> What should I do ?
[05:39] <xsquared> linuxgeek2: does gaim support yahoo?
[05:39] <linuxgeek2> yes gaim
[05:39] <linuxgeek2> Supports
[05:39] <linuxgeek2> I want to use freehoo
[05:39] <linuxgeek2> commandline yahoo messenger
[05:39] <xsquared> linuxgeek2: then, if you want to use command line, use bitlbee
[05:40] <xsquared> bitlbee > ALL.
[05:40] <burepe> bob2, yeah! can delete with the gui!
[05:40] <bob2> yeah
[05:40] <colen> bob2: thank you.
[05:40] <xsquared> check it out, it kicks ass
[05:40] <linuxgeek2> it's an IRC
[05:40] <bob2> caonex__: yes
[05:40] <linuxgeek2> i want an yahoo messenger
[05:40] <xsquared> linuxgeek2: dude
[05:40] <xsquared> linuxgeek2: it is a gateway
[05:40] <linuxgeek2> ok
[05:40] <linuxgeek2> SO u mean I can use it
[05:40] <linuxgeek2> ?
[05:41] <xsquared> linuxgeek2: that way, you can use irssi or bitchx to connect to it and then will use yahoo
[05:41] <iceman> cant find it in IBM's website// this is the size of a small Refrigiator ...
[05:42] <WebLOCH> Anyone here got the jdk working with the jvm ?
[05:42] <WebLOCH> Im having yet more trouble
[05:42] <Mabus06> What kind of files will the Totem Movie Player play?
[05:43] <P8ntKid> How come in breezy Totem wont start?
[05:44] <smithr5> hello everyone
[05:44] <TiMiDo> hello smithr5
[05:45] <Madpilot> P8ntKid: try the xine version instead of the gstreamer version - that worked for me w/ Breezy
[05:45] <Gigglesworth> WebLoch: You sure you have the JDK installed? I think you installed the JRE before.
[05:45] <WebLOCH> Gigglesworth, well i compiled some java
[05:46] <P8ntKid> Madpilot: ??? I dont understand what you mean...
[05:46] <WebLOCH> Gigglesworth, so im guessing its installed haha
[05:46] <WebLOCH> Gigglesworth, I did specifically install it too
[05:46] <Chizn> how do i figure out what drive i need to mount to get my fat 32 files?
[05:46] <Gigglesworth> Guess so ;)
[05:46] <Madpilot> P8ntKid: search Synaptic for "xine" - there's an alternate version of Totem called totem-xine -- totem-gstreamer is the other version
[05:47] <bward> is ubuntu suppose to automatically recognize bluetooth devices
[05:47] <intelikey> Chizn "fdisk -l /dev/hd* "
[05:47] <bward> or is there something that i need to configure
[05:47] <P8ntKid> Madpilot: How would i start totem-xine then?
[05:47] <colen> in mplayer I am not able to get my videos any bigger then there orignal size, any ideas?
[05:47] <bob2> bward: depends what you mean
[05:47] <bob2> colen: mplayer -fs blah.avi
[05:47] <intelikey> Chizn "fdisk -l /dev/sd* " <-- if it is scsi drive
[05:47] <Chizn> right got it, how do i make sure it mounts every time?
[05:47] <Madpilot> P8ntKid: it starts exactly the same. it's just a codecs change, AFAIK
[05:48] <P8ntKid> Madpilot: I mean what is the command to start the new totem thing?
[05:48] <intelikey> add it to /etc/fstab
[05:48] <Chizn> thank you
[05:48] <bward> i have this microsoft bluetooth keyboard and mouse
[05:48] <Doonz> any raid guys aroudn
[05:48] <bward> but it doesn't work with ubuntu
[05:48] <Madpilot> P8ntKid: install it; I think it'll remove totem-gstreamer. it just takes over as "totem", I guess
[05:48] <bward> at least not yet
[05:48] <iceman> what is a 2395-1521 Processor ? ? ?
[05:49] <P8ntKid> Madpilot: I try "totem" and i get an error
[05:49] <intelikey> Chizn you know about "man * " pages ?
[05:49] <P8ntKid> Madpilot: Go to #flood and i will post the eror.
[05:49] <bob2> iceman: no need for more than one question mark
[05:49] <bob2> iceman: also, google really had no hits?
[05:50] <iceman> looking a Simular machins on "EBAY" for idea what it might be ?
[05:50] <bytefoo> first hit :/
[05:50] <Madpilot> P8ntKid: are you trying to start from the command line?
[05:50] <bob2> iceman: what is your native language, out of interest?
[05:50] <P8ntKid> Madpilot: Yes.
[05:50] <bytefoo> IBM AS400 820/ with 2395/1521 V4R5
[05:51] <iceman> english . ?
[05:51] <classof04> as400? running linux on it?
[05:52] <classof04> can anyone tell me if recompiling my kernel will make my computer run faster on linux?
[05:52] <Madpilot> P8ntKid: try to start it by just clicking on an audio or video file... I've never actually tried to start Totem from terminal before
[05:52] <bob2> colen: no
[05:52] <bob2> er
[05:52] <bob2> classof04: no
[05:52] <yarddog> when i click on a movie trailer file from quicktime.com, it wants to open totem, i want it to open mplayer, how can i remedy this?
[05:52] <classof04> i have an athlon 600, 256mb, 60G 7200rpm
[05:52] <P8ntKid> Madpilot: I dont use Nautilius.
[05:52] <Gigglesworth> Bward: have you tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup ?
[05:52] <classof04> my windows 2000 system beats my buntu system in every single performance parametre
[05:52] <intelikey> classof04 highly unlikely that you can squeeze enough out of it to ever measure.
[05:52] <iceman> this is a newer system than the  //  IBM AS/400
[05:52] <iceman> System Type: 9406
[05:52] <iceman> Model: 170
[05:52] <iceman> O/S: Version 4, Release 3
[05:52] <bob2> classof04: sounds like your benchmarks are crap
[05:52] <bward> no i haven't
[05:53] <Madpilot> P8ntKid: then try in whatever file manager you do use...
[05:53] <iceman> nothing this new on EBAY ...
[05:53] <classof04> bob2 i just don't get it man. i am not even running kde or gnome. i use xfce4 just so things will run fast
[05:53] <jafo> How do I create a new initrd in Breezy?
[05:53] <bob2> classof04: what do you think is slow?
[05:53] <Amaranth> mkinitramfs
[05:53] <bob2> jafo: what are yo utrying to do?
[05:53] <P8ntKid> Madpilot: I use rox
[05:53] <Gigglesworth> Bward: Looks like bluetooth may not be supported out of the box. Give that wikipage a whirl.
[05:53] <jafo> bob2: Build a new initrd.
[05:53] <cantona> buy a new cpu or add more ram is better
[05:53] <P8ntKid> Madpilot: but i prefer to use a terminal
[05:54] <bob2> jafo: for the purposes of...
[05:54] <bytefoo> theres a V4R5 second hit on ebay...
[05:54] <classof04> bob2 slow means when i open say 4-5 new tabs in firefox real quick, firefox doesn't freeze in windows, it freezes (processes data) in ubuntu and returns after 5-7 seconds
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> I had to install a few extra packages to get my bluetooth stuff working..
[05:54] <jafo> bob2: Booting.
[05:54] <bward> everything i've seen online says that with the 2.6 kernel everythign should do it for me
[05:54] <bward> but apparently not
[05:54] <bob2> jafo: okiedokie then
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> i also found it worked better with the kde tools then gnomes stuff.
[05:54] <Madpilot> P8ntKid: regarding your msg in flood, do try switching to totem-xine, I got something similar to that msg w/ totem-gstreamer in Breezy. Totem-xine runs fine.
[05:54] <canindya> I upgraded from hoary to breezy
[05:54] <jafo> I didn't realize it was such a complicated question.
[05:54] <classof04> bob2 booting is nowhere near as fast with linux.
[05:54] <canindya> but my display is screwed now
[05:54] <bob2> jafo: I'm wondering *why* you're trying to regenerate it
[05:54] <bob2> classof04: have you tried suspend-to-disk?
[05:54] <cantona> any gnome applet for switch the cpufreq?
[05:54] <yarddog> am i being ignored or doesnt anyone have an answer for me?
[05:55] <abrahams> now that I am on breezy I love it
[05:55] <iceman> this is going to be "I Believe the older IBM E seriers" 64 bit system ... but thats a guess ... now it's hack the "Unix" install or install a Linux based OS .... dont think it will run Winblows ...
[05:55] <canindya> I tried dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg but without any success
[05:55] <P8ntKid> Madpilot: How do i start totem-xine
[05:55] <Gigglesworth> Bward: The kernel may support bluetooth, but you may need some utilities to do anything with it.
[05:55] <classof04> bob2 - the worst feature of linux is that when you open the .config file with make menuconfig you find that half of the useful apm features aren't built into your default kernel
[05:55] <bob2> classof04: ? ls /boot/config*
[05:55] <Nihil85> linuxac, are you in?
[05:56] <Madpilot> P8ntKid: via terminal? I have no idea. try thru your file manager of choice w/ a file, like I suggested earlier
[05:56] <classof04> bob2 yes that's what i meant
[05:56] <Gigglesworth> yarddog: maybe we don't know the answer ;) Don't take it personally.
[05:56] <classof04> bob2 but why does windows 2000 boot and run apps so much faster? i even used BUM to shut of the garbage in linux.. i even removed printing support
[05:57] <jafo> bob2: Because the new kernel I am trying to boot does not have an initrd, and because of udev stuff I need one, and I can't find documentation after hunting around on how to build a new initrd.    I just figured that Ubuntu would have a tool like mkinitrd.
[05:57] <Madpilot> P8ntKid: or, if you use Gnome, Applications menu --> Sound & Video --> Totem Movie Player
[05:57] <abrahams> does any one have any way of watching dvds, I know it sounds like a dumb question but I am tired of usin my tv and want to use my moniter
[05:57] <Linuxiac> Nihil85 has a NVidia Fx5200 that blanks out upon starting up Ubuntu Breezy Install DVD.  Any hope?
[05:57] <bob2> jafo: if you're building your own kernel, it's easier to just avoid using an initrd/initramfs
[05:57] <intelikey> mkinitrd
[05:57] <bob2> jafo: (breezy uses initramf, mkinitramfs)
[05:57] <Chizn> how would i make a link on my desktop to /mnt/win ?
[05:58] <iceman> would like to figure out what Distro of Linux to get for the IBM server ?
[05:58] <bob2> classof04: "garbage" is a rather poor term for it
[05:58] <yarddog> isnt there a file extension chooser in gnome?
[05:58] <classof04> aix iceman?
[05:58] <canindya> Chizn : mount the drive in some folder
[05:58] <Chizn> like /home/win?
[05:58] <intelikey> Chizn "ln -s /mnt/win <path>win "
[05:58] <yarddog> mplayer is installed but on the quicktime site, it goes to totem instead, wtf
[05:58] <Chizn> ah ok
[05:58] <Chizn> thankssssss
[05:58] <intelikey> Chizn being any place you want it.
[05:58] <classof04> bob2 i am sorry but 9 graphics apps yet 0 support for wireless cards is garbage to me. there's a mountain pile of "garbage" packages and apps that ubuntu packs in that stock debian doesn't touch with a ten foot pole.
[05:58] <absent> is there a mp3 player with a media lybrary and playlist manager like winamp for Ubuntu?
[05:58] <bob2> yarddog: did you install the mozilla mplayer plugin?
[05:59] <iceman> classof04 I would guess this IBM server has AIX installed, but it's Passworded, and I would rather set up a new clean OS Install
[05:59] <bob2> classof04: awesome, good luck
[05:59] <Hackel> I'm trying to setup my wireless network adapter (ndiswrapper) and I found I have to manually edit /etc/network/interfaces to add the "open" to my wireless-key line before they actual key.  Is there a way to do this through the GUI, or another work-around?
[05:59] <yarddog> bob2, what is the file for that? apt cant find it
[05:59] <Madpilot> absent: try Rythymbox or Muine
[05:59] <classof04> Hackel get the package wireless-tools
[05:59] <absent> Madpilot: ty
[05:59] <bob2> yarddog: it's in multiverse
[06:00] <Hackel> classof04, Of course I have wireless-tools installed, otherwise I wouldn't be able to get the connection up at all!
[06:00] <yarddog> bob2, what is it called?
[06:00] <bob2> yarddog: mozilla-mplayer - MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla
[06:00] <bward> so the wikipage for bluetooth stuff doesn't say much of anything
[06:00] <yarddog> bob2, thanks
[06:01] <durt> hackel: sudo gedit (or pico or whatever) /etc/network/interfaces, is that what your asking?
[06:01] <classof04> i see what you're saying Hackel i don't know any good way. i had to write a batch file to run on startup to initialize all of my parametres. i turned bluetooth off and transmit always at 54megs
[06:01] <classof04> durt for any graphics apps, it's gksudo
[06:01] <WalrusU> Are the Ubuntu package repositories sandboxed to certain versions? A program I downloaded seems to want higher libraries than what's available.
[06:01] <classof04> is anyone here running a win2k/ubuntu dual boot?
[06:01] <iceman> whats the command to install a "run" file ?
[06:02] <iceman> ./ i thought
[06:02] <RancidLM> hey all im using grub and i don't have a cdrom on my pc.. i have a cd i would like to boot to so i imaged the cd and cloned it to a partition.. is there any way to boot to the partition like it was a cdrom boot?
[06:02] <linuxgeek2> Gnome almost takes 10 minutes to load from my gdm screen does anyone has a fix for that
[06:02] <linuxgeek2> ?
[06:02] <bob2> WalrusU: no
[06:02] <classof04> make sure you have the right chmod on it iceman
[06:02] <yarddog> bob2, installed it, but firefox still wants to open totem
[06:02] <agt> iceman, u might have to chmod +x it first
[06:02] <bob2> WalrusU: packages of cours Depend on other packages in the same ubuntu release, though
[06:02] <bob2> yarddog: ok
[06:02] <Gigglesworth> bward: What happens when you run the commands on that page, such as 'hcitool dev'? Does it see any devices?
[06:02] <iluciv> hi anyone useing breezy as a mythtv box??
[06:02] <bward> yeah it sees the device
[06:02] <durt> linuxgeek2: nope - gnome is slow
[06:02] <classof04> linuxgeek2 use xfce4. gnome is decent but kde is sowshidt
[06:03] <WalrusU> bob2: this was an external program I downloaded. Not within the package manager