[00:09] <EvilResistance> anyone here able to help me diagnose why this doesn't build in a lucid chroot?  i'm not exactly certain *where* its exploding... this is the logs from the pbuilder session (building a source package): http://paste.ubuntu.com/943360/
[00:10] <EvilResistance> s/where/why/
[00:10] <EvilResistance> actually, i know generally why, something's broken somewhere, i just cant narrow down where
[00:19] <SpamapS> I know its late, but I think we should try to ship drizzle 7.1 rather than the now deprecated drizzle 2011.03.13...
[00:21] <SpamapS> I filed a FFE merge bug 987575
[00:40] <arand> EvilResistance: It looks like simply the dpkg version requirement is not satisfiable in lucid?
[01:40] <EvilResistance> arand:  what's the dpkg version that ships with Lucid?
[01:40] <EvilResistance> (sorry, lost internet for a bit there)
[01:42] <EvilResistance> nevermind, ubottu's !info function is useful :P
[02:32] <sleepycat> in my ppa I see an option to filter by series. How do I upload a package targeting ubuntu+1 or some other series?
[02:33] <EvilResistance> arand:  thanks much, that small insight into dpkg-dev being the wrong version was the cause, so decreasing the minimum requirement in debian/control fixed the thing.  :)
[02:34] <EvilResistance> (this is why I rely on this channel for packaging help pretty much exclusively, i get answers here quicker than in #ubuntu-packaging))
[05:06] <amithkk> Hello?
[05:10] <EvilResistance> hiya?  :P
[05:25] <Rhonda> cjwatson: I'm fine :)
[05:27] <Rhonda> cjwatson, micahg: People are not forced to de-install the old wesnoth-1.8 packages during the upgrade (no conflict, one of the major reason for having them in seperate source packages), so that's proper.
[05:37] <micahg> Rhonda: sounds good
[06:44] <dholbach> good morning
[06:47] <ajmitch> morning dholbach
[07:17] <micahg> Daviey: are you doing asterisk?
[07:20] <tumbleweed> micahg: you could ask a french person to look at the spip changelog, but the diff seems short enough that related problems should be tractable
[07:21] <micahg> tumbleweed: I tried google translate and failed, if you think it's worthwhile, we can poke a french reading person
[07:21] <tumbleweed> no, I gaveyou an ffe
[07:21] <tumbleweed> it's php, it won't fail to build :)
[07:21] <tumbleweed> and urgency=high implies some confident by the debian maintainers
[07:22] <micahg> they have 2 days to sort things out ;)
[07:22]  * micahg still needs to upload seamonkey
[07:23]  * micahg also needs to find someone interested in Seamonkey longterm so I don't have to upload it right before final freeze every release
[08:34] <Laney> SpamapS: you didn't subscribe the RT: do you want that FFe looked at?
[08:35] <micahg> laney: I'd say on his behalf yes (freeze in 3.5 hours)
[08:56] <ajmitch> micahg: darn, that's a bit soon :)
[08:57]  * micahg scurries to finish the seamonkey upload in time
[08:57]  * ajmitch was hoping the freeze time would be sometime tomorrow for me (public holiday)
[08:57] <Laney> i don't think we actually decided what exact time it would be
[08:58] <ajmitch> still, it's unlikely it'll be more than 12 hours
[09:08]  * micahg decides to pull the plug on seamonkey
[09:09] <ajmitch> not worth it?
[09:09] <micahg> too much work that I don't need
[09:10] <Laney> is it broken?
[09:10] <micahg> if someone wants to do it, I'm happy to mentor and backport
[09:10] <micahg> laney: it requires updates every 6 weeks like Firefox/Thunderbird and we haven't done any yet
[09:10] <Laney> oh, pain.
[09:10] <micahg> right
[09:10] <Laney> are there any contributors in the mozilla team?
[09:11] <micahg> so, if someone steps up to do the work, we can backport to 12.04 (less testing required to backport than SRU through -security)
[09:11] <micahg> laney: active?  chrisccoulson and me :)
[09:11] <micahg> and it's mostly him right now
[09:11] <ajmitch> I suppose precise-backports should be open & ready for business now? :)
[09:12] <Laney> who's this Joe Lesko?
[09:12] <Laney> someone could create that project indeed
[09:12] <ajmitch> someone in the backports team, preferably
[09:12] <micahg> laney: he was handling the updates for a while, but decided to work on other things
[09:12] <Laney> ah, that's sad
[09:13] <ajmitch> I can't imagine updating it is a fun task
[09:13] <micahg> yeah, I'll see if someone at UDS is interested
[09:13] <micahg> ajmitch: chrisccoulson does most of the work, it's just a matter of rebasing the changes from the thunderbird branch on the seamonkey branch and fixing odds and ends
[09:14]  * Laney eyes popcon.u.c
[09:14]  * ajmitch is going to refrain from volunteering :)
[09:14] <Laney> what has happened to it?
[09:14] <Laney> universe popcon stats are 404 :(
[09:14] <micahg> it's mildly popular for a universe package
[09:19]  * ajmitch looks at what he can do before freeze time
[09:37] <micahg> ajmitch: can you do asterisk? then we can remove gmime2.4
[09:38] <ajmitch> updating to the new upstream version?
[09:38] <micahg> merge from Debian
[09:39] <micahg> unless Daviey is about to push the upload button
[09:39] <ajmitch> right, they've got <IP_ADDRESS>, was an FFe requested?
[09:40] <Laney> there is a branch from jtaylor that you should look at
[09:40] <micahg> no, of course not... :(
[09:40] <Laney> ScottK and I pretty much decided that if someone tells us it's OK then we'll go for it
[09:40] <ajmitch> Laney: alright
[09:40] <Laney> but nobody knows how to test asterisk
[09:40] <micahg> ajmitch: thanks, that means I can go to sleep :)
[09:40] <ajmitch> micahg: heh
[09:41] <Laney> heh
[09:41] <Laney> is it light yet?
[09:41] <Laney> what TZ are you in?
[09:41] <micahg> UTC-5
[09:41] <ajmitch> Laney: I don't think asterisk is really testable, but afaik the version in precise has a few security problems
[09:42] <Laney> yes
[09:43] <ajmitch> give me a few min & I'll look at it
[09:46] <ajmitch> assuming my laptop doesn't just suddenly hang
[09:48] <ajmitch> sigh, looks like it has, yay for fglrx
[09:48] <Laney> ._.
[09:50] <ajmitch> Laney: where was that branch for me to look at?
[09:51] <ajmitch> nevermind, found it
[09:52]  * ajmitch would like faster internets please
[10:30] <ajmitch> dealing with bzr & patches in package branches can be a little trying
[10:41] <ajmitch> Laney: ok, building asterisk now, still got to touch up the changelog for bug numbers
[10:49] <Laney> gogogogo
[10:52] <ajmitch> Laney: hoping it builds first!
[10:58] <ajmitch> good news, it built. Do you want to see the debdiff against debian?
[11:00] <ajmitch> Laney: http://paste.ubuntu.com/943914/ if you want it - I haven't got any way to test this
[11:10] <Laney> ajmitch: cool, please upload
[11:10] <Laney> ffe bug would be appreciated for paperwork
[11:11] <ajmitch> OK, it's not a small change though
[11:11] <ajmitch> & there'll *still* be a security bug open that was just opened in the last day
[11:14] <ajmitch>  1238 files changed, 212085 insertions(+), 141587 deletions(-)
[11:14] <ajmitch> *cough*
[11:20] <ajmitch> Laney: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/asterisk/+bug/987772
[11:20] <ajmitch> I'll add the bug # to the changelog before I upload
[12:00] <ajmitch> Laney: I'm off to sleep now, do with asterisk what you will - it's been uploaded & a FFe bug filed
[12:01] <tumbleweed> I guess we're at UUFE
[12:02] <tumbleweed> UUFF even
[12:02] <ajmitch> SRU time for all
[12:03]  * ajmitch heads to bed
[12:03] <tumbleweed> night
[12:09] <wookey> anyone else seeing issues with http stalling on archive.ubuntu.com? It seems bust from both work and my server
[12:09] <wookey> e.g. stalled at: 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[12:14] <geser> wookey: I see it too, apt got a connect after a few seconds but only with a lower download rate than usual
[12:16] <geser> hmm, looks like only apt-get update got lucky with a connection, the apt-get upgrade still tries
[12:16] <wookey> oh, signs of life...
[12:16] <ogra_> pre-release fun :)
[12:17] <wookey> yeah it is just incredibly busy?
[12:17] <Laney> that wouldn't be unheard of, although I would have thought it's still a bit early
[12:17] <wookey> indeed
[12:21] <dupondje> Bleh, trying to implement Clipboard support in Remmina, but GTK/GDK skills :(
[14:28] <ScottK> tumbleweed: If you have a moment, I'd appreciate it if you'd review the dkimpy upload in the queue for me.
[14:30] <dholbach> wookey, geser: is it better now?
[14:41] <dholbach> anyone from the DMB: shouldn't ~diwic now be in ~ubuntu-dev? :)
[14:42] <Laney> the rights haven't been executed yet
[14:42] <Laney> perhaps stgraber could do that
[14:42] <dholbach> Stéphane to the rescue!
[14:42] <ScottK> Laney: You have time for a package review in the queue?
[14:43] <Laney> hrm, I thought the queue was empty at freeze time
[14:43] <ScottK> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/102975424/dkimpy_0.5.1-1ubuntu1_0.5.1-1ubuntu2.diff.gz
[14:43] <Laney> aha
[14:44] <ScottK> I thought we were still taking changes on a review the diff basis until tomorrow.
[14:44] <Laney> well I didn't, but there appears to be confusion on what this freeze does
[14:44] <Laney> never mind
[14:44] <stgraber> Laney: so that's just pulseaudio right?
[14:44] <Laney> stgraber: yeah
[14:45] <stgraber> stgraber@castiana:~/data/code/ubuntu-archive-tools$ python edit_acl.py add -p diwic -s pulseaudio
[14:45] <stgraber> Added:
[14:45] <stgraber> Archive Upload Rights for diwic: archive 'primary', source package 'pulseaudio'
[14:45] <Laney> added to ubuntu-dev
[14:45] <Laney> thanks for the ping dholbach
[14:45] <dholbach> yeehaw
[14:46] <dholbach> and c.falco's application will be done via email?
[14:46] <Laney> we asked him back to the next meeting to carry it on
[14:47] <dholbach> ok - I'm just asking because he said something about bad time because of work previously
[14:47] <Laney> he agreed when we asked
[14:48] <Laney> it'll be the next + 1 meeting anyway, so at the same time
[14:48] <dholbach> ok that's great then
[14:48] <tumbleweed> ScottK: looking
[14:48] <Laney> ScottK: looks OK to me
[14:48] <tumbleweed> ah
[14:48] <tumbleweed> even better :)
[14:48] <Laney> what I can discern from the diff anyway
[14:48] <ScottK> Laney: Thanks.  The only non-trivial change has test suite coverage (which I ran), so I'm reasonably confident of it.
[14:50] <ScottK> In.  Thanks again.
[14:50] <Laney> np
[15:59] <SpamapS> Laney: I was waiting until the build completed successfully and my smoke tests were done.
[15:59] <SpamapS> Laney: which they are almost done (build is fine)
[16:17] <wookey> dholbach: yep - things seem to be fine now
[16:24] <SpamapS> Damnit
[16:24] <SpamapS> I thought universe wouldn't freeze till 2100 UTC.. :-/
[16:24] <SpamapS> well my drizzle packages work :-P
[16:24] <Laney> do it
[16:24] <SpamapS> oh?
[16:25] <Laney> if ScottK will press go
[16:25] <SpamapS> its got binary new's
[16:25] <ScottK> Is it a sync or a direct upload?
[16:25] <ScottK> How long a build is drizzle?
[16:26] <ScottK> (we're currently backlogged on armel and powerpc right now, so it's a concern)
[16:26] <SpamapS> ScottK: merge, but the only delta is adding an upstart job (and a patch to fix FTBFS because of gcc warnings)
[16:26] <SpamapS> ScottK: 45min on my core2duo 1.8Ghz
[16:26] <ScottK> How long on armel?
[16:26] <SpamapS> :-/
[16:27] <SpamapS> ScottK: I'd guess 4x
[16:27] <ScottK> That's the big question.
[16:27] <Laney> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/drizzle/2011.03.13-0ubuntu5/+build/3210915
[16:27] <Laney> that is the last one
[16:27] <SpamapS> ugh more like 10x
[16:27] <SpamapS> maybe it really is too late
[16:28] <SpamapS> I'm pretty sure we should drop drizzle rather than carry 2011.03.13 for 5 years
[16:28] <ScottK> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/drizzle/2011.03.13-0ubuntu5/+build/3210915 <-- almost 11 hours.
[16:28] <ScottK> Yes.  Too late.
[16:28] <ScottK> OK.
[16:28] <ScottK> That or talk pitti into a massive SRU.
[16:30] <SpamapS> ScottK: meh, I think backports will suffice
[16:30] <ScottK> OK.
[16:30] <ScottK> Please file the removal bug then.
[16:31] <SpamapS> yeah, I'll ask my fellow drizzle devs what they think first.. they might be ok w/ supporting it but I doubt it
[16:31] <ScottK> Move quickly as we'll want removals done today too.
[16:32] <Laney> when did this release emerge?
[16:32] <SpamapS> Laney: less than a month ago
[16:33] <SpamapS> Laney: but it was in pre-release for 3 months before that
[16:33] <SpamapS> I just got too busy to get it merged in
[16:33] <SpamapS> ScottK: I suspect that we'll end up removing it anyway, since any security problems will not be patched upstream. I'll know soon.
[16:36] <ScottK> OK.
[16:45] <SpamapS> ok, so drizzle is going to keep the current and previous GA maintained..
[16:45] <SpamapS> and another GA isn't expected for at least 18 months..
[16:45] <SpamapS> so 2011.03.13 will get upstream fixes for at least 18 more months. We can address anything after that later.
[16:45]  * SpamapS decides to do nothing
[16:45] <Laney> nice
[16:46] <SpamapS> still a total bummer not to ship 7.1 .. so many amazing features. :-P
[16:47]  * SpamapS will chalk it up to the unfortunate but necessary roadkill that release cadence requires :)
[16:47] <Laney> backports is there for you
[16:58] <ScottK> "Cadence Kills"
[17:08] <micahg> SpamapS: as laney points out, drizzle is a good backport candidate with no rdeps
[17:09] <c_korn> hello, I have an upstream tarball which is not compressed (file extension .tar). can I also use this as an orig tarball?
[19:26] <ajmitch> morning
[19:53] <iulian> Hey ajmitch.
[19:53] <ScottK> The asterisk hero returns.
[19:54] <ajmitch> iulian: hi
[19:54] <ajmitch> ScottK: thanks for accepting it
[19:54]  * micahg has to remember to file the gmime-2.4 removal now
[19:54] <micahg> gmime2.4 even
[19:54]  * ajmitch is glad he didn't have more than 1 drink at the pub last night before coming home :)
[19:54] <ScottK> micahg: Quickly as we're getting into the time window for mirror sync pre-release.
[19:55] <ajmitch> archive.u.c is usable now?
[19:55] <ScottK> It was very slow earlier today.
[19:56] <ajmitch> seems to be working now, but yeah, it was failing to connect earlier
[19:56] <Nafallo> wow
[19:56] <ajmitch> the asterisk test build took 10 minutes to run apt-get update when I was doing it
[19:56] <Nafallo> wow
[19:56] <ajmitch> Nafallo: yes, was a bit annoying
[19:57] <Nafallo> I only know gb.archive was busted in the morning
[20:29] <jtaylor> is it to late to get the dropbear dsa?
[20:29] <jtaylor> http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/dropbear/news/20120227T150235Z.html
[20:33] <ScottK> jtaylor: It's too late for -release.  I asked in #ubuntu-security about syncing it to precise-security.
[20:41] <pabelanger> FWIW: I would rather have seen bug 987772 rejected.
[20:41] <pabelanger> too late in the release process of precise for such a jump in asterisk versions
[20:42] <Laney> I didn't see anybody volunteering to fix the grave bugs separately.
[20:43] <ScottK> If there are feature regressions they can be addressed in post-release SRUs when fixes are available.
[20:43] <pabelanger> I submitted debdiffs a few weeks ago no traction on them
[20:44] <pabelanger> ScottK: well, we basically invalidated anybody testing by bumping asterisk at the last second
[20:44] <ScottK> OK.  I'm not the developer that made the call, but I'm glad we aren't releasing with security issues unfixed.
[20:45] <ScottK> I don't insist we got there the best way we could have.
[20:45] <jtaylor> last I looked the patches had issues which where not adressed
[20:46] <jtaylor> but I too was suprised at this last second update oO
[20:47] <pabelanger> Indeed, jumping from 1:<IP_ADDRESS> to 1:<IP_ADDRESS> at the last second is not a wise move, IMO.
[20:48] <Laney> Again, nobody was stepping up to fix the CVEs. The best option we had was to take a version which does have (some of) them fixed.
[20:49] <Laney> It's all well and good complaning after the fact.
[20:49] <jtaylor> I agree with that, better a broken package that is fixable with upstream support than an insecure one
[20:49] <jtaylor> though was the lts issue clarified?
[20:50] <jtaylor> I guess as when the old one was upstream supported there would have been better patches
[20:51] <Laney> I didn't personally look into it very much. It is very likely that the package will need further attention post-release.
[20:51] <dupondje> cyphermox: there ?
[20:51] <Laney> Question is whether there is someone interested enough to take the care.
[20:52] <cyphermox> dupondje: yep
[20:52] <dupondje> I tested the Remmina fix, and it works smooth here. But there is another thing. Clipboard is also broken. Would like to fix that, but but stuck atm. Dunno if you could give me some help ? :)
[20:53] <pabelanger> Laney: how fast of a turn around are we expecting?  AST-2012-004, AST-2012-005 and AST-2012-006 were just released yesterday. I've had patches in launchpad for AST-2011-012, AST-2012-002 and AST-2012-003 for 6 weeks, and they were security issues.
[20:54] <cyphermox> dupondje: sure, are you going to still be around later? I should get going but I'll be back in a few hours.
[20:55] <cyphermox> dupondje: it would also be good if you told me how far you got with the clipboard stuff ;)
[20:55] <dupondje> well going to sleep in 1-1,5h :)
[20:55] <cyphermox> that's not long enough ;)
[20:55] <dupondje> CET :)
[20:55] <cyphermox> aye.
[20:55] <Laney> pabelanger: I don't see anything on the sponsorship queue http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/index.html (or the security one https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security-sponsors/+subscribedbugs)
[20:55] <dupondje> g_signal_connect(G_OBJECT(gtk_clipboard_get(GDK_SELECTION_PRIMARY)), "owner-change", G_CALLBACK(remmina_plugin_rdp_on_cuttext), gp); => I added this to the code. this should be triggered when clipboard content changes. But remmina_plugin_rdp_on_cuttext is never called.
[20:55] <Laney> where were they? Perhaps I can help them get back on track.
[20:56] <cyphermox> dupondje: so what I suggest is can you tell me how far you got with the clipboard support? I think we should be uploading this separately anyway. clipboard sounds more like a new feature than scrolling with the mouse wheel when normal scrolling works ;)
[20:57] <dupondje> true :) Scrolling is small patch also, Clipboad will be some more work
[20:58] <cyphermox> right
[20:58] <cyphermox> ok, so I'll watch for pings, sorry I have to run about now to catch a bug ;)
[20:58] <dupondje> with the clipboard i'm just stuck that the signal never gets called it seems :s
[20:58] <cyphermox> *bus
[20:58] <cyphermox> ok
[20:58] <dupondje> ok :) thx
[21:01] <pabelanger> Don't worry about it, it is just frustrating doing months of testing on a specific version of software, throughout the release cycle, to have it all erased in the last week
[21:03]  * ScottK can certainly understand that.
[21:05] <Laney> I'm sorry your patches fell through the cracks. If you have anything in future then please don't hesistate to make some noise in here.
[21:06] <Laney> and as you can see from this incident, asterisk clearly needs someone who is responsible for it. It'd be great if that could be you. (then we can bug you in future) :-)
[21:07] <pabelanger> np, that's not my issue, rolling the latest and greatest version asterisk for an LTS at the last second; with zero testing is.
[21:08] <pabelanger> Ya, I've tried a few times for membership and help maintain it however apparently I was doing the wrong path.  I kept talking to the wrong people


[01:15] <cweber10> Hello all how it going today?
[02:42] <blkperl> bkerensa: ok
[03:35] <blkperl> precise alpha2 is not installing for me...
[03:35] <blkperl> its complaining about not resolving the mirror server half through the installing base package phase
[03:35] <blkperl> and i tried two different mirrors
[03:53] <c_smith> bkerensa, are you here?
[03:53] <c_smith> I have a quick question
[04:09] <nibalizer> lol precise is trollllling blkperl
[04:10] <c_smith> lol
[04:11] <c_smith> what channel?
[04:12] <c_smith> also, my printer only prints in yellow and black...... :(
[04:12] <c_smith> blue and red are not being used...
[04:17] <tgm4883> c_smith, relevant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UePtoxDhJSw
[04:19] <c_smith> rofl
[04:39] <c_smith> took a while, but after printing big blocks of cyan and magenta and cleaning the cartridges using the printer, I managed to get it to print properly.
[06:40] <iBkerensa> c_smith: sup?
[06:42] <iBkerensa> hmm ok back to netflix
[20:40] <bkerensa> Good Morning Everyone
[21:03] <c_smith> good morning, bkerensa
[21:03] <c_smith> just got help mounting my tablet, really long command to do so manually. wonder if there is a way to make it automount
[21:15] <c_smith> bkerensa, I will not be able to host the Salem Ubuntu Hour, but I might be able to get JVLB to if I can get a hold of him.
[21:16] <c_smith> I won't be able to host it this week, that is.
[22:08] <c_smith> bkerensa, have you seen Jono's Google+ post about Global Jams?
[22:09] <c_smith> nvm, looks like you did, just didn't scroll far enough. :P
[22:10] <iBkerensa> c_smith: yes i read everything on planet plus im helping with global jams  this year in north america
[22:11] <c_smith> iBkerensa, awesome.
[22:12] <c_smith> well, that's all I had to say, time to continue downloading my Linux Journal issues.
[23:59] <bkerensa> c_smith: You subscribed?


[19:57] <blackboxsw> finally merged PR #162 sysconfig suse/rhel flavors Thanks robjo
[19:58] <robjo> Thanks
[20:22] <meena> now what?
[20:22] <meena> how do we undo that hack? 😜
[20:24] <wyoung> git reset HEAD~1
[20:44] <blackboxsw> heh
[20:52] <wyoung> oops, I forgot --hard


[15:55] <qwebirc41109> I have installed the latest mythbuntu, but I seem to have several issues. Which logs and command outputs would be most useful troubleshooting?
[16:01] <rhpot1991> qwebirc41109: depends on the issues
[17:08] <DarthFrog> Hi folks,  Mythbuntu Control Centre has set the repos to Quantal.  Is this correct (I am running Quantal)?  Or should I set the source to Precise?
[17:08] <tgm4883> DarthFrog, um. If you are running Quantal, why wouldn't you want the repos set to Quantal?
[17:10] <DarthFrog> tgm4883:  Because I'm getting errors and Mythtbuntu.org says it only supports LTS from now on.
[17:10] <tgm4883> DarthFrog, link?
[17:10] <DarthFrog> Errors when I try to run "apt-get dist-upgrade", that is.
[17:10] <tgm4883> DarthFrog, the reason I ask, is I'm about fixing things if they are unclear
[17:11] <tgm4883> and Mythbuntu.org shouldn't say it supports only LTS releases from now on. It should say we only release ISOs for LTS releases
[17:11] <tgm4883> DarthFrog, so to answer your last question, it should be Quantal, and please pastebin the errors
[17:12] <DarthFrog> !pastebin
[17:12] <Zinn> when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[17:13] <DarthFrog> http://pastebin.com/vutmuHAG
[17:14] <DarthFrog> tgm4883:  Ah, I think I misunderstood the announcement then, about moving to LTS.  I thought that was an excellent move, BTW.
[17:16] <tgm4883> DarthFrog, we agree :)
[17:16] <tgm4883> DarthFrog, you can safely ignore that error
[17:17] <tgm4883> DarthFrog, I had forgotten about that issue, will fix
[17:17] <DarthFrog> yeah, but that error screws up my update script.
[17:17] <tgm4883> ah
[17:17] <DarthFrog> Should I just remove that repo?
[17:17] <tgm4883> well let me see if I can fix that easily
[17:37] <DarthFrog> tgm4883:  Did you get it fixed?
[18:02] <DarthFrog> Before I go spend $500, could anyone tell me if the Hauppauge HD-PVR 1212 works well with Mythbuntu?
[18:06] <Shadow__X> 500? where are you buying it
[18:07] <Shadow__X> DarthFrog: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_HD-PVR
[18:07] <DarthFrog> Shadow__X:  I'll be buying 2 and a Shaw HD terminal.
[18:08] <DarthFrog> Shadow__X:  Yeah, I read that page.  I was hoping to talk to someone who's actually doing what I want to do. :-)
[18:08] <Shadow__X> what is that exactly
[18:10] <DarthFrog> Set up two Shaw HD terminals (Motorola DCX3200-M) with two Hauppauge 1212 units into MythTV 0.26 (Mythbuntu).
[18:10] <Shadow__X> ok well first you can look at setting one up
[18:11] <Shadow__X> as long as the terminal outputs component i am not seeing what might be the problem? unless, you are trying to change channels on both of them using one firewire connection. Also, there is a good chance no one has tried your setup before and you might need to be the first and try it out yourself
[18:12] <DarthFrog> Do you happen to know how well the IR Blaster on the 1212 works?  I've been nothing but frustrated trying to get a Command IR to work consistently.
[18:12] <Shadow__X> amazon has the 1212 for 170 btw
[18:13] <DarthFrog> I can get it locally for CDN$149.
[18:13] <Shadow__X> i do not personally have one but it seems like there are people who do use them to change channels
[18:13] <Shadow__X> well thats good
[18:13] <DarthFrog> http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/hauppauge-hauppauge-wintv-hdpvr-video-recorder-1219-1219/10107259.aspx
[18:14] <Shadow__X> i have used firewire to change channels and record off of my box ( i realize that changing channels may or may not work for you
[18:14] <DarthFrog> The 1219 has both English and French manuals.
[18:15] <DarthFrog> You're lucky.  Shaw is rather anal about such things.  Firewire is locked out and everything is encrytped.
[18:15] <Shadow__X> well are there firwire ports? you could possible try to change channels through firewire at leat
[18:16] <DarthFrog> The @#(& are implementing a new guide system for the HD terminals.  They will be changing the channel mappings from what Schedules Direct reports.
[18:16] <Shadow__X> are you using this for the ir blaster http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Using_an_IR_Blaster_with_MythTV#Configuring_Myth_Backend
[18:17] <DarthFrog> The 1212 comes with its own ir blaster.
[18:17] <Shadow__X> did you look at the link i sent you? its about setting up the blaster
[18:17] <Shadow__X> you said you were having trouble with the blaster
[18:17] <DarthFrog> http://www.commandir.com/content/view/19/31/
[18:18] <DarthFrog> is the one I've tried to use.  It works properly (i.e. the set-top box changes channels properly) about 85% of the time.
[18:18] <Shadow__X> try what i linked to you
[18:19] <Shadow__X> there is a link to a channel change script
[18:20] <DarthFrog> Thanks, but I've given up on it.  The output from the digital terminals (not HD terminals) was connected to Hauppauge PVR-150 cards.  They no longer seem to work with Myth so I'm replacing them with the Hauppauge HD-PVRs.
[18:21] <Shadow__X> i would look to see what is the problem
[18:21] <DarthFrog> We've re-written the channel change script.
[18:21] <DarthFrog> The problem seems to be the ivtv drivers.
[18:21] <DarthFrog> They seem to be orphaned.
[18:21] <Shadow__X> well digital is all around better
[18:22] <DarthFrog> Yes, I agree digital is better.
[18:23] <DarthFrog> however I have 4 digital terminals and a whole bunch of Hauppauge 350s, 500s, 250s and 150s that are now obsolete.
[18:23] <Shadow__X> since you are getting the hdpvr local you could always try it and if you dont like it return it
[18:23] <Shadow__X> i have some pentium 3's that are now obsolete
[18:24] <DarthFrog> :-)
[18:37] <DarthFrog> Shadow__X:  Here's the modified change channels script we run:
[18:37] <DarthFrog> http://pastebin.com/adFdYMiX
[18:37] <DarthFrog> it adds locking.
[18:37] <Shadow__X> why would you want to lock it?
[18:38] <DarthFrog> Because things wouldn't work with out it.  Commands to set-top boxes were being dropped.
[18:38] <tgm4883> DarthFrog, sorry, got pulled into a meeting
[18:39] <tgm4883> doing it now
[18:39] <Shadow__X> oh, i really don't know anything about lirc stuff. I only use the mce remotes and thats it
[18:39] <DarthFrog> tgm4883:  No problem.  Thanks for getting back to it.
[18:39] <tgm4883> DarthFrog, bah, looks like it will take 7 hours to fix :/
[18:39] <DarthFrog> tgm4883: Ouch!!!!
[18:40] <tgm4883> DarthFrog, basically, that PPA doesn't get a lot of updates pushed to it. So what is happening is nothing is in it for Quantal yet, so techncially, the PPA doesn't exist
[18:40] <DarthFrog> OK, then I'll just delete the repo. :-)
[18:40] <tgm4883> I just pushed something to it, but it's queued to build in 7 hours
[18:41] <tgm4883> so yea, you can disable the repo or wait
[18:41] <Shadow__X> which repo
[18:41] <DarthFrog> Well, I'll wait then.  I won't be doing a dist-upgrade again till tomorrow.
[18:41] <DarthFrog> Shadow__X:  mythbuntu-testing-quantal
[18:41] <Shadow__X> ah ok
[18:42] <Shadow__X> btw is live streaming on .25.3 supposed to work at all resolutions? I am getting blocky video in most resolutions
[18:45] <tgm4883> DarthFrog, I would expect it to be fixed by then :)
[18:45] <tgm4883> Shadow__X, unsure, I don't use 0.25.3 or HLS
[18:53] <Shadow__X> hmm, i would upgrade to .26 but it seems like the windows builds are behind and the machine i was going to do my own builds isnt working with me
[22:39] <Shadow__X> one of my frontends is not staying suspended. It goes into suspend but then turns right back on. This started happening when i upgraded to 12.04


[05:48] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:40] <jibel> Good morning all
[06:43] <oSoMoN> salut jibel
[07:02] <didrocks> good morning!
[07:10] <jibel> salut oSoMoN didrocks
[07:12] <didrocks> salut jibel, oSoMoN
[07:36] <seb128> lut didrocks jibel oSoMoN, comment ça va ?
[07:40] <jibel> salut seb128
[07:40] <jibel> ça va bien et toi?
[07:41] <seb128> nickel!
[07:44] <didrocks> hello seb128, ça va, et toi en France ?
[07:47] <seb128> didrocks, j'y ai passé un bon-long-weekend mais je suis reparti là
[07:48] <seb128> j'ai aussi eu mon premier vaccin samedi ;-)
[07:49] <jibel> Cool, seconde dose la semaine prochaine pour moi et tranquille pour l'été
[07:50] <didrocks> nous, c’était vendredi :p
[07:59] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks, seb128
[08:03] <laney> \o
[08:05] <jibel> Good morning laney
[08:05] <didrocks> hey laney
[08:07] <laney> salut jibel didrocks
[08:07] <marcustomlinson> morning callmepk oSoMoN jibel didrocks seb128 laney
[08:07] <seb128> hey laney marcustomlinson callmepk, how are you?
[08:08] <laney> hey marcustomlinson and seb128
[08:08] <oSoMoN> hey laney, marcustomlinson
[08:08] <marcustomlinson> seb128: doing alright thanks, you?
[08:08] <laney> yeah good thanks, enjoying the 🌞
[08:08] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson
[08:08] <laney> moin oSoMoN
[08:08] <laney> seb128: good days off?
[08:09] <laney> heh ftpmaster.internal is down, that's not going to end well
[08:13] <ricotz> good morning
[08:19] <marcustomlinson> hey ricotz
[08:19] <jibel> Hi marcustomlinson
[08:20] <seb128> hey ricotz
[08:20] <seb128> marcustomlinson, I'm fine thanks!
[08:21] <seb128> laney, yes, nice and long sunny weekend in France ;-)
[08:21] <seb128> also having my arm hurting a bit now :p
[08:21] <laney> lucky!
[08:22] <didrocks> seb128: was worst was 24h after for Julie and I, but it’s disappearing quickly
[08:24] <seb128> it's minor so I'm not complaining ;)
[08:25] <ricotz> hey marcustomlinson jibel seb128 laney didrocks
[08:26] <laney> yeah was funny more than anything, like forgetting until going to get something out of the upper cupboard: "ouch"
[08:26] <laney> moin ricotz
[08:26] <laney> how's it going there
[08:27] <seb128> laney, to me it's forgetting I put my head on it while trying to sleep :p
[08:28] <seb128> ricotz, laney, I was reading the IRC backlog and saw the gcc discussion, might be worth trying to build with gcc-10 again to see if that armhf problem is still there? could have been resolved since we pinned back to the old version as a workaround?
[08:29] <laney> either way it's probably a good idea to not stay on 9 forever, so if it's still there we should make sure d_oko is aware
[08:30] <ricotz> seb128, it is failing with gcc-10 the same way still
[08:30] <ricotz> https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/red/+build/21685245
[08:30] <jibel> Hi ricotz
[08:31] <ricotz> seb128, there is time for impish, but the gcc-9 update in hirsute-proposed breaks the SRU now
[08:32] <ricotz> mentioned here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-9/+bug/1931701
[08:32] <seb128> ricotz, did we mark the gcc SRU as verification-failed?
[08:32] <ricotz> I pinged sil2100 about it, and was referred to do_ko
[08:33] <seb128> I'm going to set the tag as failed to make sure it doesn't get copied to updates without an explicit decision to do so despite the problem
[08:34] <ricotz> the issue now is that it blocks the libreoffice 7.1.4 SRU regardless :(
[08:35] <ricotz> thanks
[08:37] <ricotz> seb128, note that the test fail when libreoffice was build with the new gcc-9, the test will succeed when using good libreoffice binaries
[08:39] <ricotz> unfortunately I have no sufficient hardware to try to reproduce this amrhf issue locally
[08:40] <ricotz> regarding using the default gcc again, I also tried gcc-11 which libreoffice is not ready for yet, at least 7.1.x isn't
[08:41] <seb128> k
[08:42] <ricotz> seb128, fyi, there is vala update in salsa for unstable :)
[08:42] <seb128> ack, I will sponsor that in a bit!
[08:42] <ricotz> great :)
[09:18] <KGB-0> gnome-books pristine-tar 117493a Iain Lane gnome-books_40.0.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-books_40.0.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-books_40.0.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3dE82
[09:18] <KGB-0> gnome-books upstream/latest a7e6f38 Iain Lane * pushed 70 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/ujLi
[09:18] <KGB-0> gnome-books upstream/latest 7e5b57a Fran Dieguez po/gl.po * Update Galician translation * https://deb.li/ipz6h
[09:18] <KGB-0> gnome-books upstream/latest 65fbe81 Bastien Nocera flatpak/org.gnome.Books.json * flatpak: Use stock gjs * https://deb.li/WjYN
[09:18] <KGB-0> gnome-books upstream/latest 5bd3be7 Bastien Nocera src/ application.js utils.js * application: Make isSandboxed() helper public * https://deb.li/3Zq2x
[09:18] <KGB-0> gnome-books upstream/latest 67469a7 Bastien Nocera src/changeMonitor.js * changeMonitor: Fix name of D-Bus service when sandboxed * https://deb.li/AE0g
[09:18] <KGB-0> gnome-books upstream/latest f028937 Bastien Nocera flatpak/org.gnome.Books.json * flatpak: Prefer internal miner service * https://deb.li/30aCl
[09:18] <KGB-0> gnome-books tags c6b0639 Iain Lane upstream/40.0 * Upstream version 40.0 * https://deb.li/daBM
[09:34] <laney> who's a good contact for kylin these days?
[09:34] <laney> want to ask them to port their brasero fork
[09:34] <laney> to tracker 3
[09:37] <laney> I'll just email handsome feng :-)
[09:37] <laney> looks like they didn't make it over to libera (yet)
[13:46] <bittin> good afternoon
[23:34] <KGB-1> gnome-shell-extension-appindicator tags 6515830 Marco Trevisan upstream/40 * Upstream version 40 * https://deb.li/QKhe
[23:35] <KGB-1> gnome-shell-extension-appindicator upstream/latest 9afa2ed Marco Trevisan * pushed 47 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/i2LWU
[23:35] <KGB-1> gnome-shell-extension-appindicator upstream/latest ed44631 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) appIndicator.js * appIndicator: Get and expose the accessibility name * https://deb.li/UNIx
[23:35] <KGB-1> gnome-shell-extension-appindicator upstream/latest 31ac54f Marco Trevisan (Treviño) appIndicator.js * appIndicator: Do not reload icons when updating the effects applied to it * https://deb.li/3tKiE
[23:35] <KGB-1> gnome-shell-extension-appindicator upstream/latest 9671219 jingi_jeong extension.js indicatorStatusIcon.js topicons.js * feature: Add topicons-plus extension logic * https://deb.li/G4Al
[23:35] <KGB-1> gnome-shell-extension-appindicator upstream/latest 6fd6699 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) topicons.js * topicons: Drop logic to handle shell legacy tray * https://deb.li/3yLhI
[23:35] <KGB-1> gnome-shell-extension-appindicator upstream/latest 57cbc27 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) extension.js indicatorStatusIcon.js trayIconsManager.js topicons.js * trayIconsManager: Move handling of legacy tray icons into a nicer class * https://deb.li/ELej


[00:02] <Dexx1_> Hey folks. How do I fix this when trying to 'apt update'? E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/cybre/elementaryplus/ubuntu bionic Release' does not have a Release file. — Full output: https://pastebin.com/raw/VMJNDcsC
[00:04] <Bashing-om> Decobus: You don't. See:http://ppa.launchpad.net/cybre/elementaryplus/ubuntu/dists/ ; Talk to the PPA maintainer as last supported release shows xenial.
[00:05] <ChiLLabiS> Xenial is EOL right?
[00:05] <Dexx1_> Bashing-om - how do I fix that?
[00:05] <ChiLLabiS> !eol Dexx1_
[00:06] <ChiLLabiS> !eol | Dexx1_
[00:06] <ryuo> ChiLLabiS: no it's not, not for all flavors.
[00:06] <Dexx1_> ChiLLabiS: Right, if it's EOL, shouldn't it be removed automatically? Or do I need to do that? If so, how?
[00:06] <ChiLLabiS> Simply just wanted to help
[00:08] <Bashing-om> Dexx1_: As that PPA is not supported, remove the entry from your source list.
[00:08] <Dexx1_> Bashing-om - k standby
[00:09] <Bashing-om> Dexx1_: Here to help :)
[00:10] <Dexx1_> Bashing-om: On /etc/apt/sources.list, correct?
[00:10] <ChiLLabiS> Or in /etc/apt/source.list.d
[00:11] <Bashing-om> Dexx1_: As 3rd party I would expect in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory.
[00:12] <Dexx1_> Bashing-om / ChiLLabiS: Am I doing: rm -rf /etc/apt/sources.list.d/cybre-ubuntu-elementaryplus-xenial.list ?
[00:12] <ChiLLabiS> update after
[00:13] <Bashing-om> Dexx1_: Presently now,can not say -show us 'cat /etc/issue' .
[00:13] <Dexx1_> ChiLLabiS: To confirm, that's the correct command, right?
[00:14] <ChiLLabiS> sudo apt update
[00:14] <ChiLLabiS> test that
[00:15] <ChiLLabiS> Sorry for buttin' in Bashing-om
[00:15] <ChiLLabiS> I'm a newb haha
[00:15] <ChiLLabiS> But i like helping people
[00:15] <ChiLLabiS> :P
[00:16] <Bashing-om> ChiLLabiS: No issue with help - there is never ever enough help :P
[00:17] <ChiLLabiS> Ah okay :)
[00:17] <Bashing-om> Dexx1_: ^^ show what release you are running :)
[00:17] <Dexx1_> Bashing-om: elementary OS 5.0 Juno
[00:19] <Bashing-om> !elementary | Dexx1_ Then back to ##linux for support on this network ;)
[00:22] <ChiLLabiS> Maybe do an upgrade-release on your Elemetary.  Sorry
[00:25] <Bashing-om> ChiLLabiS: All a process of learning, It's ubuntu - be nice :P
[00:26] <ChiLLabiS> I am.. I just got bad language ofc
[00:26] <ChiLLabiS> i curse alot irl xD
[00:26] <ChiLLabiS> haha
[00:26] <ChiLLabiS> Not in a bad way thought
[00:26] <ChiLLabiS> thaough
[00:26] <ChiLLabiS> whatever
[00:29] <ChiLLabiS> Elementary Juno or Hera is based on bionic
[00:29] <ChiLLabiS> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_OS#5.0_Juno
[00:29] <ChiLLabiS> Maybe that ppa works if you update your system
[00:29] <ChiLLabiS> Dexx1_:
[00:29] <ChiLLabiS> Since xenial isn't working for you
[00:31] <ChiLLabiS> odcourse you need a bionic ppa also... idk
[00:31] <ChiLLabiS> Just a thought
[00:31] <ChiLLabiS> ofcourse*
[00:31] <ChiLLabiS> Been drinking tonight lol
[00:51] <Osmodivs> Hello, I have Ubuntu 18.04.3. Windows to is not showing in my GRUB menu, I can see the disk in Gnome-disks, but Grub-customizer does not see it. Anyway, in the command line I can see: hd0,msdos1 (unknown), hd1,msdos1 (my HDD), hd2,gpt2 (my music HDD) hd3,gpt4 (Windows, I guess) hd3,gpt3, hd3,gpt2, hd3,gpt1. I am assuming the hd3 is Windows because of the other 3 gpt*(partitions?) and see them like /dev/sdb1-4, So, I edited /etc/gru
[00:51] <Osmodivs> online tutorials suggested) menuentry "Windows 10 (on /dev/sdb2)" {insmod part_msdos1 insmod ntfs setroot=`(hd3,gpt2)' chainloader +1
[00:51] <Osmodivs> }
[00:55] <Osmodivs> and i get this in the terminal:  https://pastebin.com/SKUxAQDa
[00:57] <Osmodivs> I know that if I reboot I will not be able to login, so, is there a way to fix this?
[00:58] <tomreyn> "Grub-customizer" is not a software that is supported here. to make a windows installation which is installed using the smae boot mode (uefi vs legacy bios) show up on grub menu, you just need to install os-prober.
[00:59] <tomreyn> your first message was cut off (due to irc line length limits) at "So, I edited /etc/gru".
[01:01] <tomreyn> the fact that you have an msdos partition table on hd0 and hd1 but gpt partition tables on hd2 and hd3 makes me think that you *may* have installed ubuntu in a different boot mode than windows
[01:01] <tomreyn> (but ot be able to chainload they need ot be installed in the same mode)
[01:02] <Osmodivs> tomreyn: 18:51:16 - Osmodivs: […] So, I edited /etc/grub.d/40_custom and added these lines (like
[01:02] <Osmodivs> 18:51:16 - Osmodivs: online tutorials suggested) menuentry "Windows 10 (on /dev/sdb2)" {insmod part_msdos1 insmod ntfs setroot=`(hd3,gpt2)' chainloader +1
[01:02] <Osmodivs> 18:51:16 - Osmodivs: }
[01:03] <Osmodivs> tomreyn: "They need to be installed in the same mode" so, that means they both need to be UEFI?
[01:04] <Osmodivs> os-prober does not detect the Windows disk
[01:17] <tomreyn> Osmodivs: so ubuntu is currently able to boot right?
[01:17] <tomreyn> if so, what does this say?    echo -n 'This system booted via: '; [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[01:18] <Osmodivs> This system booted via: BIOS
[01:18] <tomreyn> so that's how ubuntu was installed and needs to boot in on your system currently, in bios mode,
[01:18] <tomreyn> now do you know which mode you installed windows in?
[01:19] <tomreyn> afaik windows 10 can only be installed in uefi mode
[01:19] <Osmodivs> Ubuntu can boot, but Windows is not showing in GRUB, and I don't remember how did I installed Windows
[01:20] <Osmodivs> tomreyn: well, I guess I installed Windows in UEFI mode, is there a way to fix this?
[01:20] <Osmodivs> do I need to reinstall Ubuntu in UEFI mode?
[01:20] <tomreyn> if so, yes, this would be the easiest
[01:21] <Osmodivs> hm...
[01:21] <Osmodivs> how do I install an UEFI mode in a LiveUSB?
[01:22] <tomreyn> the ubuntu installer supports either mode. you need to boot it in uefi mode, which you need to instruct your mainboard firmware to do.
[01:23] <Osmodivs> OK. But, after that I will need to reinstall, Windows, eh?
[01:24] <tomreyn> usually uefi firmware provides both a way for defining in which order devices will be booted from, this would also list a usb stick which has been attached by the time the computer was powered up.
[01:24] <tomreyn> you may also have a boot (override) menu which can override the default boot order just once
[01:25] <Osmodivs> tomreyn: Thats the weird part, it does not show in the BIOS menu,
[01:25] <Osmodivs> let me try and reinstall Ubuntu in UEFI mode and see what happens
[01:25] <tomreyn> unless you deleted the efi system partition which the windows boot loader was installed on, or have rearranged disks or sone anything else windows cannot handle, you should be able to continue booting windows in uefi mode (assuming that it was installed in uefi mode)
[01:25] <tomreyn> s/sone/done/
[01:26] <tomreyn> some, especially older, mainboard firmwares lack support for booting from usb in uefi mode. but this is quite rare.
[01:27] <tomreyn> make sure you created a standard ubuntu installer media, so it will support uefi booting.
[01:29] <tomreyn> also, make sure you understand how uefi booting works quite differently from bios booting, and be aware of ubuntu bug 1396379
[01:30] <Osmodivs> My MoBo is recent, is the ASUS B350 Plus,
[01:30] <tomreyn> and its firmware is, too?
[01:30] <tomreyn> journalctl -b | grep 'DMI:'
[01:30] <Osmodivs> yeah, updated a few days ago
[01:30] <Osmodivs> tomreyn: dic 24 18:14:53 Djiin-Mk-IV kernel: DMI: System manufacturer System Product Name/PRIME B350-PLUS, BIOS 5220 09/12/2019
[01:31] <tomreyn> latest version is Version 5220 2019/09/24
[01:31] <tomreyn> looks good
[01:31] <tomreyn> so it's just a matter of proper configuration, i guess
[01:35] <tomreyn> this looks like a good guide for setting up dual boot (probably too late now if you already can't boot into windows): https://askubuntu.com/questions/1031993/how-to-install-ubuntu-18-04-alongside-windows-10
[01:35] <tomreyn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot is outdated, but the preparatory steps are relevant.
[01:37] <tomreyn> note that you should still make the windows configuration changes discussed in the askubuntu.com article if you'll be able to regain access to windows.
[05:51] <whoareU> how to expand display area to full screen on external monitor under totally command-line mode
[05:55] <whoareU> i have two monitor that one is notebook itself's another is external which are using , but display size is still notebook's on external monitor
[05:55] <tomreyn> and the external monitor is connected how? (to which port?)
[05:55] <whoareU> using hdmi
[05:55] <tomreyn> and you graphics card is?
[05:56] <tomreyn> and X variant? xorg, xwayland?
[05:56] <tomreyn> generally, i'd say if you can do it (at all) then using xrandr
[05:56] <whoareU> how to view the graphics card
[05:56] <tomreyn> lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:04] <whoareU> tomreyn: this is my graphics card information https://paste.centos.org/view/ae1bb9ff
[06:05] <tomreyn> which centos version is it?
[06:05] <whoareU> 7.7
[06:05] <tomreyn> and what's the name of the channel you're in?
[06:07] <whoareU> no one's answering in centos channel
[06:07] <whoareU> and i have a ubuntu user too in another pc
[06:19] <martian67> merry christmas
[06:50] <ZaZaGX> ho ho ho
[06:53] <sethkush> does anyone know how to figure out what is configuring an ethernet device? I rebooted and mnow networkmanager can't manage eno1
[06:54] <sethkush> I'm using 19.10 btw
[06:56] <ZaZaGX> i have never used 19.10
[07:05] <tomreyn> your logs should say, journalctl -b
[07:08] <tomreyn> on a desktopm normally what you'll see is that systemd-networkd checs whether it's supposed to manage it. if it isn't, it says so. then network-manager checks whether it is supposed to, and whether there is a legacy configuration in /etc/network/interfaces, and if there isn't it'll configure any NICs according to the existing profiles.
[07:10] <sethkush> looks like systemd-networkd is taking it
[07:10] <sethkush> where do I fix that (nm had it before my last reboot)?
[08:01] <knightwise> hello everyone
[08:05] <knightwise> and Meeeeerry Christmas ! (for those who celebrate it, for others, happy wednesday)
[08:18] <sethkush> tomreyn: thanks for the pointers. Turns out purging netplan solved it
[08:19] <sethkush> I think there might have been some problems with configs sticking around in /var/run
[08:20] <dionysus69> can't mount windows ISOs with furious mount
[08:20] <dionysus69> says it has UDF content or something
[08:20] <dionysus69> what am I missing? I am on KDE so I dont have gnome disk utils
[08:21] <tomreyn> sethkush: ah sorry didnt see your previous question there. but nice that you worked it out.
[08:22] <dionysus69> ok nevermind just install gnome dis utility
[08:42] <knightwise> If i wanted to create a file based on a variable (like "date" or some other variable in a batch file) how do i do that ?
[08:49] <tomreyn> use    date +%s   (unix epoch, seconds since 01/01/1970)
[08:50] <tomreyn> alternatively, if oyu just need the day:  date --rfc-3339=date
[08:51] <tomreyn> (effectively the same as    date +%Y-%m-%d    )
[08:51] <tomreyn> knightwise: ^ more help on such commands is also available in channel #bash
[08:57] <EriC^^> knightwise: there's no variable for date in bash (not batch), you'd need to use a nested shell command such as     touch "/path/to/$(date +%s)" , as for variables you can do touch "/path/to/$myvariable" to create a file
[09:13] <knightwise> tomreyn: thanx !
[09:31] <aryan> hi all
[10:30] <CoolerX> what is the default terminal?
[10:30] <CoolerX> xterm?
[10:30] <CoolerX> in 18.04
[10:37] <Telerophon> Gnome Terminal, probably
[10:38] <Telerophon> assuming you're using the standard Gnome 3 distro
[11:30] <CoolerX> Telerophon, the standard what?
[11:31] <CoolerX> Gnome is just a desktop if I recall
[11:31] <CoolerX> not a distro, the distro is Ubuntu 18.04
[11:31] <CoolerX> also didn't Ubuntu get rid of Gnome in 18.04 for some reason?
[11:52] <nightowl1> Hello , After some kind of update I have lost the ability to choose Keyboard layouts , probably because I had some error indicating something I don't remember , so I had to remove all of my layouts in order to be able to type again(even english)
[11:52] <nightowl1> but now I want to add more layouts and I can't
[11:53] <nightowl1> It's Ubuntu MATE
[11:57] <nightowl1> Anyone?
[12:04] <nightowl1> bump
[12:28] <sixwheeledbeast> I assume "standard gnome 3 distro" means "vanilla ubuntu flavour"
[12:34] <CoolerX> sixwheeledbeast, ok
[12:34] <CoolerX> so what is the default terminal?
[12:35] <CoolerX> Gnome terminal?
[13:09] <Ether_Man> Hi. I'm running 18.04 and set up a 4 node ceph cluster. I'm trying to enable the dashboard but can't get it working. 'ceph mgr module ls' does list the module as enabled, but 'ceph mgr services' does not have any listed instances. I've googled a bit and there are some suggestions of missing dependencies (python-routes, which I've installed). I've tried disabling and reenabling the module again but still no entry in services, and ofc,
[13:09] <Ether_Man> not listening on any port for it either. Is there anything else I need to do that's ubuntu specific for it? (as in, that differs between ubuntu repo and the official ceph instructions
[13:57] <coconut> Any tool in default repo to export music out of movies and then make that an audio cd?
[14:08] <BluesKaj> Merry Christmas!
[14:10] <coconut> Thnx, you too BluesKaj!
[14:12] <BluesKaj> coconut, :-)
[14:52] <nikolam> Hi I can't have autoconfig resolution on DVI->VGA analogue output of AMD 7850 with radeon driver. It keeps working at 1024X768 and doesn't recognize monitor branding, too. I have ready -monitor.conf for  /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/5-monitor.conf but wouldn't it be able to automatic set resolution or at least allow me to change it. (Xubuntu 19.10) https://pastebin.com/wcpSrkNV  I don't use 5-monitor.conf at the moment, would love it to auto-sense.,
[14:52] <nikolam> because if set then resolution is fixed if I change monitor. Can it be auto-sensing new monitor and resolutions?
[15:00]  * nikolam will reset and try again
[15:21] <nikolam> still on 1024X768 on radeon 7850 on (x)Ubuntu 19.10,,
[15:28] <shibboleth> season greetings
[15:29] <shibboleth> any update re broken bionic apt dependencies? atm libpulse0 depends on a replaced package
[15:37] <hggdh> shibboleth: on my bionic, both libpulse0 and libpulse-dev are at version 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4
[15:37] <shibboleth> yeah, try the following: apt-get update
[15:38] <shibboleth> apt-cache show libpulse-dev
[15:38] <shibboleth> not depends on libpulse0 version
[15:38] <shibboleth> note
[15:38] <shibboleth> then apt-cache show libpulse0
[15:39] <shibboleth> libpulse-dev deps on libpulse0 7.4 yet libpulse 7.5 has replaced it
[15:40] <shibboleth> which means anyone wanting to install/compile against anything depending on pulseaudio will be in the poor house until this is fixed
[15:41] <shibboleth> i get that 'tis x-mas but this has been the case for well three days now
[15:42] <shibboleth> and, seeing how pulseaudio isn't exactly "universe" (default since... ever) i was hoping for some less-than-divine intervention at some point :)
[15:44] <shibboleth> anyone who already has ubuntu-desktop installed will get by for now but anyone installing form "live" media or installing stuff on top of "-server" won't egt very far
[15:44] <shibboleth> from
[15:45] <hggdh> shibboleth: just created a container at 18.04, installed libpulse0, apt update, apt install libpulse-dev. Success. Both libpulse0 and libpulse-dev are at 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4
[15:45] <shibboleth> yeah, you did it in the wrong order
[15:46] <hggdh> shibboleth: which order should I do it?
[15:46] <shibboleth> you installed libpulse0 from non-borked indexes
[15:46] <hggdh> ?
[15:46] <shibboleth> clean container->apt-get update
[15:46] <shibboleth> apt-get install libpulse-dev
[15:46] <shibboleth> or, from any point in time:
[15:46] <shibboleth> apt-get update
[15:46] <shibboleth> apt-cache show libpulse0
[15:47] <shibboleth> apt-cache show libpulse-dev
[15:47] <shibboleth> note that libpulse0 will be 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.5 but libpulse-dev will depend on 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4
[15:50] <hggdh> OK. jusrt re-created the container. apt update, then apt install libpulse-dev. After install completed, both libpulse0 and libpulse-dev are at 7.4
[15:50] <hggdh> shibboleth: do you have -proposed enabled?
[15:50] <shibboleth> no, i don't have privs to edit apt-sources on this dev box
[15:50] <shibboleth> working remotely, 'tis xmas
[15:51] <shibboleth> hggdh, in any case and for the third time:
[15:51] <shibboleth> apt-cache show libpulse0
[15:51] <shibboleth> apt-cache show libpulse-dev
[15:51] <hggdh> yes. For the third time as well: they are both at the correct version
[15:51] <shibboleth> with or without -proposed?
[15:51] <hggdh> without, of course
[15:52] <shibboleth> can you please paste depends:-output from apt-cache show libpulse-dev?
[15:53] <hggdh> shibboleth: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8cG8dPRr8j/
[15:55] <shibboleth> and apt-cache show libpulse0?
[15:56] <hggdh> shibboleth: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Y3Ts2TQp5m/
[15:56] <shibboleth> thanks
[15:56] <shibboleth> here are mine:
[15:56] <shibboleth> libpulse-dev: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3wBXHfBRMm/
[15:56] <shibboleth> libpulse0: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RTJBFmpdmj/
[15:57] <shibboleth> any way to discern apt repo index version?
[15:58] <shibboleth> i've tried sev mirrors
[16:34] <cbaby> hello people
[16:35] <nikolam> I am really pissed now. I managed to set 1920X1080 with cvt, xrandr and xrandr --newmode , but on reboot i am STILL at 1024X768 on DVI->VGA 23" 1920X1080 monitor on AMD 7850 graphics..
[16:35] <nikolam> Yes, I I also used --addmode
[16:41] <cbaby> I have 5 not upgraded  message when I try and update from my terminal....for some strange reason it will try and install updates from updater but stops and repeat message in the terminal
[17:33] <corshmock> Happy Christmas everyone!
[17:39] <ukiyo-eh> Merry Christmas!
[17:41] <ukiyo-eh> I just installed updates and now I'm limited to one workspace and I cannot find a way to add another. Before, there were always two.
[17:41] <ukiyo-eh> How can I add other workspaces?
[17:48] <corshmock> Just click the start button and type work, then you can configure how many workspaces you want.  You access them by ctrl-alt + left right arrows
[18:08] <retentiveboy> Selecting the "Linux Firmware Update" boot option on my DELL XPS15 is  leading to the BIOS diagnostic program, not the firmware update.  Weird.
[18:09] <retentiveboy> I'm getting notifications when I boot normally that there is a firmware update to be installed but I can't get it to actually apply.
[18:14] <ukiyo-eh> corshmock: That doesn't seem to work. I searched and the only option is to install Cinnamon workspaces from the software shop. I did and it doesn't seem to do anything.
[18:14] <ukiyo-eh> I also have two monitors and I cannot use shortcuts to move windows from one monitor to the other.
[18:16] <jeremy31> retentiveboy: That option used to be labelled "System Settings" at one time
[18:40] <Vivit> Got a real puzzler on my hands; the OS doesn't seem to want to use the driver for my wifi device
[18:43] <Vivit> In "Software & Updates" under the "Additional Drivers" tab, the entry for the device has its radio button set to "Do not use this device"
[18:44] <Vivit> and it's stuck there
[18:45] <sixwheeledbeast> broadcom?
[18:45] <Vivit> When I set the radio button to the option to use the (proprietary) driver and click "Apply Changes", it says "Applying changes" for a moment while a bar fills up, and then the radio button flips back to "Do not use this device"
[18:45] <Vivit> yes, Broadcom
[18:46] <sixwheeledbeast> They can be a pain sometimes. i would check the wiki to see if your card is compatible with the driver.
[18:46] <Vivit> It was working just fine until last night
[18:46] <sixwheeledbeast> oh
[18:51] <sixwheeledbeast> lspci -nn | grep -i network    may help work out which drivers are compatible.
[18:51] <Vivit> Is there a way to manually enable the driver without using the "Software & Updates" application?
[19:00] <sixwheeledbeast> modprobe them
[19:04] <Vivit> How do I determine the module name
[19:05] <Vivit> The apt package is called "bcmwl-kernel-source"
[19:05] <Vivit> Is that also the name of the module?
[19:08] <sixwheeledbeast> That's the closed source drivers maybe "wl" or "broadcom-sta". I'd run through the firmware-b43-installer package myself if your card is supported.
[19:31] <dmw_> hey. i'm on ubuntu 19.04 and can't upgrade for now. any animation whatsoever in firefox causes gnome-shell process CPU usage to explode, and UI is horribly laggy regardless. killing gnome-shell and starting metacity, the laptop feels like it's really from this century
[19:32] <dmw_> is there some way to make metacity the default, or any tips on dealing with whatever insanity is going on with (presumably) compositing in gnome-shell? i simply dont need it and it destroys the machine
[19:54] <eklebanow> exit
[19:54] <eklebanow> quit
[20:06] <savino> lusers
[20:18] <shibboleth> i was able to resolve the libpulse0 "phantom version" leading to non-existent apt dependency issues by proxying some cached apt indexes and manually installing 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.4 over 7.5
[20:25] <Osmodivs> I have Ubuntu 18.04.3 and I get this message when I try to setup my printer: "Sorry! The system printing service doese't seem to be available"
[20:25] <Osmodivs> I unistalled CUPS and installe CUPS fron source, and still nothing
[20:26] <sixwheeledbeast> systemctl status cups ?
[20:27] <TheWild> hello
[20:27] <TheWild> what's assigned to Shift+Alt+S?
[20:28] <Vivit> sixwheeledbeast: the "apt show" for that package says that it "downloads and installs the firmware needed by the b43 kernel driver".  That sounds like a problem, given that I can't connect to the internet in the first place
[20:28] <sixwheeledbeast> Vivit: no even via lan?
[20:28] <Vivit> Nope
[20:29] <sixwheeledbeast> hmm
[20:29] <Vivit> Laptop doesn't have an ethernet port
[20:29] <Osmodivs> sixwheeledbeast: ● cups.service - CUPS Scheduler    Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/cups.service; enabled; vendor preset: ena   Active: active (running) since Wed 2019-12-25 14:28:19 CST; 2s ago
[20:29] <Osmodivs>      Docs: man:cupsd(8)  Main PID: 5129 (cupsd)    Tasks: 3 (limit: 4915)    CGroup: /system.slice/cups.service            ├─5129 /usr/sbin/cupsd -l            ├─5154 /usr/lib/cups/notifier/dbus dbus://            └─5155 /usr/lib/cups/notifier/dbus dbus://  dic 25 14:28:19 Djiin-Mk-IV systemd[1]: Started CUPS Scheduler.
[20:30] <Osmodivs> now I can see some printers...
[20:31] <Vivit> I think the drivers are installed and the issue is that I can't enable them
[20:32] <sixwheeledbeast> Yer I have had similar issues with broadcom wifi cards in laptops, it was always down to the bcmwl
[20:35] <sixwheeledbeast> Something must be conflicting with it
[20:36] <Vivit> What sort of something?
[20:37] <sixwheeledbeast> I am assuming another module    "sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl"    then   " sudo modprobe wl"  do you have a wifi on/off button?
[20:37] <SimonNL> Vivit: connect using you phone tether the wifi connection
[20:38] <sixwheeledbeast> You could always download any packages and use dpkg -i
[20:38] <sixwheeledbeast> download on another device that is
[20:41] <Vivit> "FATAL: Module wl not found."
[20:42] <sixwheeledbeast> pretty sure wl is the bcmwl module
[20:43] <Vivit> That's in response to # modprobe -r b43 ssb wl, # sudo modprobe wl says "FATAL: Module not found in directory /lib/modules/4.15.0-72-lowlatency"
[20:43] <Vivit> That's in response to # modprobe -r b43 ssb wl, # sudo modprobe wl says "FATAL: Module not found in directory /lib/modules/4.15.0-72-lowlatency". I get the same message for "bcmwl".
[20:44] <sixwheeledbeast> modprobe b43 ?
[20:45] <SimonNL> any of those drivers installed ?
[20:45] <Vivit> that did something -- verbose mode prints a bunch of "insmods"
[20:45] <jeremy31> Vivit: Is it connected to internet?
[20:46] <Vivit> SimonNL: I believe so; my wifi was working just fine until last night
[20:46] <Vivit> jeremy31: nope, the laptop has no ethernet port
[20:47] <jeremy31> Vivit: is anything blocked, see terminal>  rfkill list
[20:48] <Vivit> Doesn't look like it
[20:52] <jeremy31> vivit just post the 14e4 number from these terminal results and tell me kernel driver in use>  lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 net
[20:52] <Vivit> Okay, I think I found a clue: $ apt show bcmwl-kernel-source prints the lines "Conflicts: bcmwl-modaliases" and "Replaces: bcmwl-modaliases"
[20:53] <Vivit> jeremy31: "[14e4:43a]", "Kernel driver in use: bcma-pci-bridge"
[20:55] <jeremy31> Vivit: any result from terminal for> locate wl.ko
[20:59] <Vivit> Four paths, each in the form "/lib/modules/4.15.0-$n-$suffix/kernel/drivers/pwm/pwm-twl.ko", where $n is either "70" or "72" and $suffix is either "generic" or "lowlatency"
[21:01] <jeremy31> Vivit: so no results with just wl.ko?
[21:01] <Vivit> No.
[21:02] <jeremy31> what does it show for> dpkg -l | grep dkms
[21:02] <Vivit> er
[21:02] <jeremy31> does it show "ii  dkms " on one line
[21:03] <Vivit> yes
[21:03] <Vivit> with way too much whitespace
[21:03] <jeremy31> Check>  dkms status
[21:03] <Vivit> Nothing
[21:05] <jeremy31> Vivit: copy http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/b/broadcom-sta/broadcom-sta-dkms_<IP_ADDRESS>1-8ubuntu0.1_all.deb and put it on a USB drive and put it on the desktop on Ubuntu, then double click the file
[21:06] <Vivit> What is it that gnome does when you double-click a .deb again?
[21:07] <jeremy31> It should install it using the software center
[21:08] <jeremy31> or you can use terminal>  cd Desktop && sudo dpkg -i broadcom-sta-dkms_<IP_ADDRESS>1-8ubuntu0.1_all.deb
[21:35] <Vivit> jeremy31: done. Now dkms status prints "broadcom-sta, <IP_ADDRESS>1, 4.15.0-72-lowlatency, x86_64: installed"
[21:36] <jeremy31> Vivit: do results change for> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 net
[21:44] <Vivit> Yes. "[14e4:43a]" -> "[14e4:43a0]"
[21:45] <jeremy31> Vivit: kernel driver in use?
[21:45] <Vivit> It also says "Kernel modules: bcma, wl", when I believe it just said "Kernel modules: bcma" before
[21:45] <jeremy31> Vivit: result for> mokutil --sb-state
[21:45] <Vivit> "Kernel drive in use" is unchanged
[21:46] <Vivit> "This system doesn't support Secure Boot"
[21:48] <Vivit> What next? Reboot?
[21:48] <jeremy31> Vivit: haven't rebooted since installing that?  If not, reboot
[21:51] <Vivit> Aaand on reboot, I'm connected to the wifi before even logging in
[21:51] <Vivit> Thanks, jeremy31!
[21:52] <jeremy31> Vivit: that is good
[21:58] <Vivit> do you have any idea why it may have stopped working?
[22:00] <jeremy31> Vivit: not actually as nothing was in previous results for dkms status
[22:10] <steve> why are there no mirror links for downloading here?  https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/armhf/libc6/download
[22:16] <hggdh> steve: seems packages.u.c is failing
[22:18] <hggdh> steve: seems to work only for AMD64 and i386
[22:19] <steve> hggdh yep
[22:23] <hggdh> steve: IIRC, there is a different archive for ARM (but I do not remember the site name)
[22:24] <steve> thanks.  I'm finding links on the debian package search\
[22:24] <hggdh> steve: ah, got it: http://ports.ubuntu.com/pool/main/g/glibc/
[22:27] <steve> great, thanks hggdh


[15:08] <Nuage> yay
[15:08] <Nuage> the NUC computers are now availble in tunisianet you guys
[15:09] <Nuage> when did they come :o
[15:09] <Nuage> i've been following them up in anandtech
[15:20] <elacheche> Nuage: a link?
[15:25] <Nuage> elacheche: look at the first cheapest three computers, there is even the intel Mini PC available now http://www.tunisianet.com.tn/373-ordinateur-bureau-tunisie
[15:25] <Nuage> it's as big as a mere flash drive
[15:27] <elacheche> Nice! I like them!
[15:28] <Nuage> elacheche: go buy one :o
[15:29] <elacheche> Nah! Not in plan, or in my priorities for now..
[15:29] <Nuage> okey
[15:29] <Nuage> what might your priorities be about otherwise
[15:29] <Nuage> :v
[15:41] <elacheche> That's confidential :)
[15:41] <elacheche> :)
[15:48] <Nuage> alright then.