[10:14] <adminn> can you guys do me a favor? im trying to find ubuntu open chat
[10:14] <intelikey> someone else maybe can.
[10:14] <RytmenPinnen> is the manual partitioning hard to do?
[10:14] <adminn> rytmen im in ubuntu and it was sooo easy I have a dual boot pc
[10:14] <VousDeux> RytmenPinnen: if you have free space, you could create a new partion and then copy your /home to it
[10:15] <RytmenPinnen> ah, well, I dont have that :D
[10:15] <adminn> you only need the swap 2gb and \=home should be 8 with no extra room
[10:15] <RytmenPinnen> hmm, I guess my files are gonna have to go then, ohwell, nothing important there really
[10:15] <VousDeux> RytmenPinnen: it's not hard, but it does take a little planning
[10:15] <guillermo> hello
[10:15] <VousDeux> RytmenPinnen: can you put any on cd? or a jump drive?
[10:15] <RytmenPinnen> btw, VousDeux can I acces my hdd from the live session?
[10:15] <VousDeux> RytmenPinnen: or a network share?
[10:16] <RytmenPinnen> eventually yes
[10:16] <posingaspopular> RytmenPinnen: yea i think so
[10:16] <adminn> do you guys know the ubuntu open chat room?
[10:16] <VousDeux> RytmenPinnen: yes, you can
[10:16] <guillermo> adept keeps showing me the version upgrade button even when i am aldready using gusty
[10:16] <posingaspopular> adminn: you mean #ubuntu ?
[10:16] <RytmenPinnen> how, I cant seem to find it in dolpin
[10:16] <adminn> polpular no
[10:16] <adminn> I cant get in lol
[10:16] <VousDeux> guillermo: that will go away...they know about it
[10:17] <adminn> .. #ubuntu-open or close
[10:17] <posingaspopular> ive never heard of this chan
[10:17] <guillermo> VousDeux tres bien
[10:17] <VousDeux> guillermo: welcome
[10:17] <adminn> cus someone said #ubuntu is for tech help not general chat
[10:17] <posingaspopular> adminn: ah you mean offtopic
[10:18] <adminn> yes!! ty :D
[10:18] <posingaspopular> #ubuntu-offtopic, #kubuntu-offtopic, #xubuntu-offtopic
[10:18] <posingaspopular> etc
[10:18] <guillermo> +R
[10:18] <posingaspopular> adminn: sorry its 4am over here
[10:19] <adminn> Popular at least you got me there ty lol :)
[10:19] <posingaspopular> np
[10:19] <VousDeux> I should have been asleep hours ago...it's after 5
[10:19] <posingaspopular> i hang out in #ubuntu-offtopic a lot
[10:19] <Hamra> posingaspopular: you must really like your linux system, what are you still doing awake at 4 am?
[10:19] <RytmenPinnen> VousDeux: I found the HDD but it, in the bottom of dolpin it says hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 999
[10:19] <franx> hi there, i couldnt help noticing that on the kubuntu logon screen it shows all the users for the system in gutsy. how do i turn the showing of users on the left?
[10:19] <posingaspopular> Hamra: trying to fix bugs. hw on 'free culture' by lawrence lessig. building a spot spot this afternoon-too excited to sleep
[10:20] <fdoving> franx: how to turn it off?
[10:20] <VousDeux> RytmenPinnen: you may have to do a sudo mount
[10:20] <RytmenPinnen> k
[10:21] <ubuntu> Noob question: How is the Compiz fusion enabled in Kubuntu (GUI method preferred)
[10:21] <winchesterPAT> when will thumb drive / useb drive ubunti is gona come out ?
[10:21] <Hamra> good luck with your work
[10:21] <Hamra> does the online upgrade to gutsy support pausing?
[10:21] <posingaspopular> Thanks Hamra
[10:21] <VousDeux> ubuntu: you have to install the config manager software for compiz
[10:22] <miir> I found something ^
[10:22] <miir> main: error loading '/lib/firmware/bcm43xx_microcode5.fw' <--- a few rows of errors like that
[10:22] <ubuntu> VousDeux: Advanced Desktop Effects Settings_
[10:22] <miir> want all the error lines ?
[10:22] <VousDeux> ubuntu: yeah, that
[10:23] <ubuntu> VousDeux: yeah ive done that. It opens up empty
[10:23] <VousDeux> but to start it I only know to type compiz --replace &
[10:24] <posingaspopular> woah i just heard the most henous cat hiss of my life. scared me silly... erm i mean, kubuntu support, kubuntu support
[10:24] <ubuntu> VousDeux: hm, thats not too cool...
[10:24] <VousDeux> miir: you might be better off trying to search online for that error
[10:24] <ubuntu> VousDeux: Damn, ubuntu should focus more on KDE and less on Gnome
[10:26] <RytmenPinnen> hmm, Cant seem to find the system:/media folder in the terminal
[10:26] <VousDeux> my Advanced Desktop Effects Settings if full of stuff....too much stuff if you asked me
[10:26] <RytmenPinnen> sudo mount hda1 just gives me a "cant find system:/sdösjdglksdjglkdjfg/..........." error
[10:27] <VousDeux> try sudo mount /dev/hda1
[10:27] <RytmenPinnen> same thing :( mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:28] <VousDeux> should be just /media, not system:/media
[10:28] <VousDeux> err...perhaps the system: designation has something to do with the live cd
[10:28] <nmjohnso> naon /etc/fstab and see ify ou can see the drive there
[10:28] <nmjohnso> nano*
[10:29] <franx> fdoving: i dont want people to see who are valid users in my system on the logon screen
[10:29] <VousDeux> huh, that's weird...I've always just been able to click an icon that appeared on the desktop to access the local disk
[10:29] <RytmenPinnen> there is something there, but im not sure I understand it all
[10:30] <RytmenPinnen> "/dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 , tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nosuid,nodev 0 0 and unionfs / unionfs rw 0 0"
[10:31] <chrissi> hello
[10:31] <Hamra> use "disk and filesystems" from system settings
[10:31] <Hamra> mount them from there
[10:31] <chrissi> some question: after a reboot
[10:31] <Lynoure> franx: you can install theme manager for kdm, and use a theme that does not have a user list
[10:31] <chrissi> the usb ports of my kubuntu 7.04 seems to be deactiveted
[10:31] <chrissi> i've just installed virtualbox
[10:32] <chrissi> anybody who can help me?
[10:32] <chrissi> anything i can test?
[10:32] <RytmenPinnen> its there
[10:32] <pag> chrissi, just a guess: try adding " usb-handoff " as kernel boot option.
[10:33] <posingaspopular> check your hardware to see if its being recognized too
[10:33] <posingaspopular> lshw
[10:33] <jonasp> hey, is it just me or isnt cut/paste working with dolphin?
[10:33] <chrissi> br
[10:33] <chrissi> b
[10:35] <dystopianray> i switched konq back to default becuase dolphin was a POS
[10:35] <Hamra> if i upgrade to gutsy, will i have the option to make konqueror my file browser? i dont think im going to get along with this dolphin!
[10:35] <posingaspopular> Hamra: i upgraded and it's till konqi
[10:35] <posingaspopular> i think dolphin is for clean installs, but im not sure
[10:35] <dystopianray> Hamra: yes you can make konqueror the default very easily
[10:35] <guillermo> my web cam has been detected wrongly?
[10:35] <kaminix> Anyone have a good howto for fixing PHP5 + Apache2 + MySQL?
[10:35] <dystopianray> kaminix: what is wrong with it?
[10:36] <jonasp> posingaspopular: i upgraded and for me its dolphin
[10:36] <guillermo> i mean it says i got a camera i dont,.. and it does not work
[10:36] <Hamra> thank you
[10:36] <kaminix> dystopianray: Ah, sorry, might've mixed some Swedish grammar into that sentence. Set it all up I mean.
[10:36] <posingaspopular> jonasp: nah its def. konqi
[10:36] <Eli-> anyone here installed kubuntu 7.10 on d610?
[10:37] <posingaspopular> i'll fight you over this too ;p
[10:37] <jonasp> well, for me it isnt. and i upgraded ;)
[10:37] <nmjohnso> is there anyway to back up the ndiswrapper stuff so i don't need to recompile it again?
[10:37] <grul> !apache
[10:37] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:37] <combo> !pastebin
[10:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:37] <jonasp> maybe you still hava a konqueror button in your taskbar
[10:38] <jonasp> that will start konqueror ofc
[10:38] <kaminix> grul: thanks. :)
[10:38] <fdoving> franx: edit /etc/default/kdm.d/20_kubuntu_default_settings - make the second line read: THEME="/usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu-no-userlist"
[10:38] <VousDeux> that lshw output looks like some interesting reading :)
[10:38] <posingaspopular> jonasp: whats the diff.?
[10:39] <posingaspopular> because you're right
[10:39] <kaminix> grul: No howto for Gutsy there though, same as on feisty?
[10:39] <nmjohnso> is there a way to back up the ndiswrapper stuff so i don't need to recompile it?
[10:39] <grul> i don't know, i suppose it can't be that different
[10:39] <dystopianray> kaminix: should be almost exactly the same
[10:40] <dystopianray> kaminix: it's basically just installing a handful of packages and you're ready to go
[10:40] <kaminix> Okay, got it. :) Thanks. :)
[10:40] <kreib> kubuntu is upgradable to 2.6.22  now? with kde 4?
[10:40] <dystopianray> kreib: gutsy uses linux 2.6.22 and has kde 4 available
[10:40] <franx> fdoving: heyt thanks for that
[10:41] <jonasp> posingaspopular: i use the "Quick File Browser" applet. this one launches dolphin as default now - before it was dolphin. if you have a simple konqueror button all it does is launch the konqueror application.
[10:41] <kreib> i see, not possible to upgrade from 704 ?
[10:41] <kaminix> Oh, by the way, why is Firefox 3 in the repos?
[10:41] <dystopianray> kreib: yes you most certainly can upgrade
[10:41] <dystopianray> kaminix: why not?
[10:41] <jonasp> posingaspopular: so even if dolphin is the default application for opening folders you will use konqueror most of the time.
[10:41] <kaminix> dystopianray: Because it's not out yet?
[10:41] <kreib> ok, great. how?
[10:41] <dystopianray> kaminix: neither is kde4
[10:41] <RytmenPinnen> VousDeux: I fixed it by doing sudo mkdir /media/sda1 and then sudo mount dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[10:42] <RytmenPinnen> not sure if its too wise but I can acces it now :P
[10:42] <combo> how can i install *.deb package in 7.10 ? i have such information about libc6 and ldconfig ?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41306/  :/
[10:42] <kaminix> dystopianray: But KDE4 is in Beta, Firefox three is in alpha?
[10:42] <nmjohnso> guess no one knows
[10:42] <nmjohnso> eh
[10:42] <winchesterPAT> wich is better SELinux or AppArmor ?
[10:42] <dystopianray> kaminix: alpha/beat it's all largely arbitrary
[10:42] <VousDeux> RytmenPinnen: oh, haha...I should have known we needed to supply a destination for the mount...just adds to the fact that I should be sleeping
[10:43] <kaminix> When is Firefox 3 due to release anyway?
[10:43] <posingaspopular> jonasp: i reject your claim because it is not in line with proliteriat interests
[10:43] <dystopianray> winchesterPAT: SELinux is probably technically superior, but apparmour is still quite good
[10:43] <jonasp> ?
[10:43] <RytmenPinnen> haha :D
[10:43] <combo> i mean last two lines are unusual :]
[10:43] <winchesterPAT> does any of them have GUI configurator ?
[10:44] <dystopianray> winchesterPAT: probably not, i don't know, there are guis for setting ACLs
[10:44] <kreib> in kubuntu, how to upgrade to 2.6.22 ?
[10:45] <dystopianray> kreib: you have to upgrade to gutsy
[10:45] <kreib> yes, I mean gutsy, how is ti done
[10:45] <winchesterPAT> why arnet there any huis for it ?
[10:45] <kaminix> Do I need php5 and php4? Isn't 5 enough?
[10:45] <dystopianray> kaminix: php5 is enough
[10:45] <nmjohnso> can i back up ndiswrapper stuff so i don't need to compile it again?
[10:45] <TheGateKeeper> which version of kde is gutsy using?
[10:46] <kaminix> TheGateKeeper: 3.5.8
[10:46] <dystopianray> TheGateKeeper: 3.5.8 and has 4.0beta3 in the repos
[10:46] <TheGateKeeper> ok thanks guys
[10:46] <posingaspopular> Jucato: ping?
[10:47] <winchesterPAT> i needf XACLs
[10:47] <fit4lfe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41307/
[10:47] <fit4lfe> trying to upgrade from feisty to gusty using update-manager -c -d
[10:48] <fit4lfe> it gets through upgrading then error
[10:48] <posingaspopular> isn't is just update-manager -c
[10:48] <Thonolan> good morning i have a problem with my adept_updater i want to have it back into my systemtray .I can start it with a command : adept_updater but i want it to have it automaticly at systemstart
[10:48] <fit4lfe> in the log says one of the repos is not a trusted source
[10:48] <Thonolan> and apologize my bad englishplease
[10:50] <fit4lfe> in the log says one of the repos is not a trusted source
[10:50] <fit4lfe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41307/
[10:50] <rand_acs> lol, now my amarokapp also died, out of the blue...
[10:50] <VousDeux> the only bad english is pig-latin
[10:51] <posingaspopular> Thonolan: go to the kmenu->system-adept and RIGHT click on it
[10:51] <Thonolan> posingaspopular: ok..
[10:52] <guillermo> I have been trying 2 days to installa java runtime enviroment without succes can anyone hlp me?
[10:52] <posingaspopular> system->adept *
[10:52] <posingaspopular> guillermo: what commands?
[10:52] <dystopianray> guillermo: which version of the runtime do you want?
[10:52] <posingaspopular> !java
[10:52] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[10:52] <fit4lfe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41307/
[10:52] <guillermo> i am trying to play a cards game on the internet and it asksme for JRE, but when i intalla it from adept it still does not work
[10:53] <fit4lfe> trying to upgrade to 7.10 using dist-upgrade
[10:53] <dystopianray> guillermo: which browser are you using?
[10:53] <rand_acs> so the amarok problem anyone have a solution?
[10:53] <dystopianray> guillermo: and which jre did you install?
[10:53] <guillermo> firefox
[10:53] <posingaspopular> rand_acs: not that i know of
[10:53] <guillermo> the one listed on adept
[10:53] <TheGateKeeper> guillermo: probable best done from the command line (using apt-get)
[10:54] <posingaspopular> me too thouhg. no fun.
[10:54] <dystopianray> guillermo: which is?
[10:54] <rand_acs> posingaspopular: great, so it was working one restart ago, now it's dead...
[10:54] <Thonolan> posingaspopular: how can i set that the adept_updater starts at systemstartautomaticly ?
[10:54] <rand_acs> I think this update in sync witt ubuntu standard is a bad idea
[10:55] <guillermo> it says sun-java 6 bin
[10:55] <fit4lfe> the logs say that one of my repositories is untrusted ?
[10:55] <jabba80> hello
[10:55] <fit4lfe> do you need a key to upgrade to gusty ?
[10:55] <posingaspopular> Thonolan: i dont see an option
[10:55] <rand_acs> it's just not nearly stable enough :(
[10:55] <dystopianray> guillermo: install the sun-java6-plugin package
[10:55] <jabba80> anyone good at mencoder and lavc?
[10:56] <posingaspopular> adept usually only starts when there are changes that need to be made to the system
[10:56] <RytmenPinnen> where in root is the trash located?
[10:56] <jabba80>  am trying to encode some cartoon in DivX. i did it like this: http://rafb.net/p/MxB12639.html
[10:56] <Thonolan> posingaspopular: ok thanks for trying to help
[10:56] <edulix> hi
[10:56] <jabba80> but in the resulting video, straight lines look very "pixeled" (sorry for my bad english)
[10:56] <edulix> does kubuntu have an interface to enable xgl?
[10:56] <jabba80> can anybody tell me why? and if there is sth. like a blur-filter which one xould use to make the result look smoother? or am i doing it wrong at all?
[10:56] <guillermo> dystopianray installing...
[10:56] <fit4lfe> do you need a key to upgrade to gusty ?
[10:57] <fit4lfe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41307/
[10:57] <fit4lfe> trying to upgrade to 7.10 using dist-upgrade
[10:57] <dystopianray> guillermo: also open a terminal and run 'java -version', what version does it say?
[10:57] <jabba80> omg.. nothing btut gutsy today :D
[10:57]  * dromer tried that too .. and it went horribly :(
[10:57] <guillermo> adept is still intalling ahould i open the terminal after the install?
[10:58] <lovre> whenever i move something or open a window, i hear a silent but hearable sound from my computer. Why is that? Is it normal?
[10:58] <dystopianray> guillermo: this is entirely independant of adept, do it now
[10:58] <dromer> first I could only get in TTY, now I could start is with sudo, so I'm in gnome now :/
[10:58] <dystopianray> lovre: noise over the pci bus that is affecting your sound card
[10:58] <posingaspopular> franx: stillhere?
[10:59] <guillermo> the installa is finisched and the terminal answers java veriosn "<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:59] <posingaspopular> i might have an answer for you
[10:59] <lovre> dystopianray: but i dont hear it from speakers, but from within computer, somewhere around motherboard...
[10:59] <dystopianray> guillermo: restart firefox and try your game again
[10:59] <fit4lfe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41307/
[10:59] <xenol> plz what r advantages of having apparmor enabled?
[10:59] <dystopianray> lovre: is your hdd or cdrom?
[10:59] <kaminix> "Edit PHP Configuration to Work With MYSQL (Ubuntu Dapper)" <--- Will I need this in Gutsy too?
[11:00] <dystopianray> kaminix: if i recall correctly it should be setup for mysql by default
[11:01] <RytmenPinnen> VousDeux: you still here? I've freed up 20 gigs now, shall I know make a partition of that and copy stuff there, Or can I simply install gutsy on that partition and keep the other partion,
[11:01] <dystopianray> kaminix: you just need to install the php5-mysql package
[11:01] <posingaspopular> fit4lfe: maybe #ubuntu can help me, im not sure anyone in here hasa definative answer
[11:01] <Hamra> can i download the packages needed for the upgrade seperatly, put them somewhere, and when they are all on my hard drive, use them for the upgrade? i dont think i can donload 670 mb at one time!
[11:01] <guillermo> it works
[11:01] <guillermo> thanks a lot
[11:01] <kaminix> dystopianray: Thanks :)
[11:03] <posingaspopular> Hamra: ive heard the question before
[11:03] <posingaspopular> dont remmeber the answer
[11:03] <genux_kubuntu> lo.. trying to update to 7.10 from 7.04 and on the modifying the software channels it gets stuck on 38/59 file fetching ? any ideas
[11:03] <posingaspopular> who asked about apparmor?
[11:04] <dromer> any idea why, after the upgrade, root thinks that 2 of my partitions (of which one is /home) are busy and can't be mounted?
[11:04] <cptn_spoon> I'm back! Installed the Nvidia driver manually and am getting the same issue. Resultion is now okay and graphics card is listed correctly but the screen redraws so SLOWLY!
[11:04] <fit4lfe> posingaspopular trying that channel too
[11:04] <dromer> because of it I can't boot into x, I can however get into TTY and start X as root .. but ofcourse I don't want this ..
[11:04] <rand_acs> Hamra: I think there is an explanation on the upgrade page
[11:05] <Hamra> im digging through the support pages, lets hope something helps, thanks for trying anyway
[11:05] <cptn_spoon> Anyone got any idea on this? Just to maximize Konversation the window takes about 5 seconds to draw itself
[11:05] <rand_acs> Hamra: I do that with my BSD boxes :)
[11:06] <dystopianray> cptn_spoon: do you have 3d acceleration?
[11:06] <cptn_spoon> Firefox seems to work fine though, but the KMenu has this flickering thing going on
[11:06] <cptn_spoon> I have a GeForce 4 and I've just installed the nvidia drivers from scratch
[11:06] <genux_kubuntu> lo.. trying to update to 7.10 from 7.04 and on the modifying the software channels it gets stuck on 38/59 file fetching ? any ideas
[11:07] <posingaspopular> fit4lfe: yea i honestly dont know
[11:07] <Hamra> i'll download the alternate CD, i can pause it's download aytime with kget, right?
[11:07] <dystopianray> Hamra: yeah kget should support resusuming
[11:07] <fit4lfe> this sucks
[11:08] <posingaspopular> fit4lfe: thats a package right?
[11:08] <Hamra> thanks
[11:08] <ndrea> Hi, I'm getting again an error I had two days ago, everytime I close dolphin...
[11:08] <posingaspopular> search ubuntu package manager
[11:08] <ndrea> Unable to save bookmarks in /home/andrea/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Permission denied.
[11:08] <fit4lfe> posingaspopular: is the repo outdated
[11:08] <fit4lfe> yeah using update-manager
[11:09] <kaminix> MySQL is faster that SQLite, right? Using MySQL for Amarok will yield better performance, right?
[11:09] <ndrea> I remember it was solved just with one command on the Konsole... but I don't remeber which was. Could someone help me?
[11:09] <fit4lfe> no sqlite is faster
[11:09] <cptn_spoon> Anyone got any ideas? I've tried installing the nvidia package a few times, tried using Envy and now installed them straight from the nvidia site with their .run package but something is definitely up. It all worked fine with feisty.
[11:09] <kaminix> So I should use sqlite instead?
[11:10] <dystopianray> kaminix: leave amarok to the default
[11:10] <kaminix> Okay. :)
[11:10] <dystopianray> kaminix: if you want to do db stuff with php then use mysql or postgresql
[11:10] <posingaspopular> fit4lfe: search through packages.ubuntu.com and see fi you can find any relevent date
[11:10] <SlipperyJim> ndrea: chmod
[11:11] <posingaspopular> or can you just delete the repo althoughter and tell gusty to stop paying it attention?
[11:11] <kaminix> I installed MySQL for wiki, just thought I'd get a bonus performance boost using the same database for Amarok. :)
[11:12] <dystopianray> kaminix: any performance boost would only matter if you had an enormous collection and were constantly running queries over it
[11:12] <dystopianray> kaminix: once you have a playlist and music is playing, mysql does nothing for you
[11:12] <kaminix> Oh... didn't know that.
[11:12] <BrightEyes`> hello.anyone for help me configuring my microphone please?
[11:13] <dystopianray> kaminix: the different databases are only for managing the amarok collection, nothing to do with playback or anything else
[11:13] <fit4lfe> looks like it  might be a bug in update-manager
[11:13] <kaminix> I see. But does it not record playdata in the database all the time dystopianray?
[11:13] <fit4lfe> but i am also using nxserver right now and that might be part of the problem
[11:13] <rand_acs> fit4lfe: well, my adept is crashing left, right and center so I wouldn't be surprised
[11:14] <fit4lfe> just you get it to upgrade at leaset
[11:14] <fit4lfe> least
[11:14] <dromer> gah, my desktop is now so fucked-up :(
[11:14] <ndrea> slipperyjim: could you give me the whole command please?
[11:14] <fit4lfe> you might have to do a xserver configure for video for gusty
[11:14] <SlipperyJim> umm...
[11:15] <dystopianray> kaminix: yes, but one bit of data every 3-4 minutes is so insignificant
[11:15] <posingaspopular> ndrea: sudo
[11:15] <dystopianray> kaminix: the main reason you'd use mysql is to have multiple machines sharing the same collection or to query the collection from php or some other programming language
[11:16] <kaminix> dystopianray: Oh, I see. I thought I'd remember older Amarok versions telling my MySQL is faster but not as easy to setup.
[11:16] <RytmenPinnen> could some go to disk and file settings and check what settings there should be for the tmp partioin, mine dissappeared
[11:16] <xenol> hello. i got probs with OOo when i try to open some odt file it launches document recovery. any clues?
[11:16] <posingaspopular> xenol: me too
[11:16] <posingaspopular> no clue
[11:16] <fit4lfe>  I can't even do a dist-upgrade to 7.10 wtf
[11:16] <posingaspopular> except.... never close 000
[11:17] <fit4lfe> isn't sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:17] <posingaspopular> fit4lfe: are you doing updatemanager -c -d
[11:17] <fit4lfe> yeah
[11:17] <xenol> posingaspopular:  u discovered this after upgrade to gutsy?
[11:17] <fit4lfe> update-manager -c -d
[11:17] <posingaspopular> sudp apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:17] <RytmenPinnen> could some go to disk and file settings and check what settings there should be for the tmp partioin, mine dissappeared when I tried to add a partition
[11:17] <RytmenPinnen> *partition
[11:18] <winchesterPAT> any one using LVM with enciption ?
[11:18] <winchesterPAT> encription
[11:18] <posingaspopular> RytmenPinnen: one sexc
[11:18] <serega> Hi guys
[11:18] <fit4lfe> yep upgrade done
[11:18] <fit4lfe> lool
[11:18] <fit4lfe> lol
[11:19] <dystopianray> kaminix: it's not the type of 'faster' that you'd actually notice
[11:19] <fit4lfe> grrrrr
[11:19] <TimS> I created a file with mencoder, it runs perfecty and looks okay to me, but the size of the orignal is 60mb and the new one is 34kb, how can I get this to update
[11:19] <posingaspopular> that foesnt work for me
[11:19] <posingaspopular> fit4lfe: you serious
[11:19] <fit4lfe> yep
[11:19] <posingaspopular> RytmenPinnen: it doesnt show anything for me
[11:19] <serega> does anybody know what happened with laptop special keys in gutsy? :(
[11:19] <fit4lfe> thats cause it doesn't work
[11:19] <winchesterPAT> The Enemy Territory: Quake Wars Linux client requires people to copy over the media pak files from the Windows PC version of the game. :D
[11:19] <RytmenPinnen> press administrator mode
[11:19] <fit4lfe> there are special dist-upgrade commands
[11:20] <posingaspopular> !permissions | ndrea
[11:20] <ubotu> ndrea: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[11:20] <fit4lfe> !dist-upgrade
[11:20] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:21] <posingaspopular> RytmenPinnen: i know, but when i put in my password, i dont see anything at all
[11:21] <posingaspopular> no changes
[11:21] <posingaspopular> fit4lfe: now you know. never ever use a gui for dist upgrade
[11:21] <RytmenPinnen> aha, hmm
[11:21] <posingaspopular> i was just about to tell you that
[11:21] <fit4lfe> yeah well the command  line itsn't working either
[11:21] <BrightEyes`> hello.anyone for help me configuring my microphone please?
[11:21] <winchesterPAT> Linux Filesystem_Hierarchy sucks
[11:22] <fit4lfe> I do have the cd image though
[11:22] <cptn_spoon> I cant get my Geforce4 to work in Gutsy...any ideas? I've tried installing the nvidia package a few times, tried using Envy and now installed them straight from the nvidia site with their .run package but something is definitely up. It all worked fine with feisty.
[11:22] <fit4lfe> i could use that
[11:22] <fit4lfe> to upgrade
[11:22] <serega> BrightEyes: what problems?
[11:22] <rand_acs> even my menu editor is broken
[11:22] <fit4lfe> should be able to just mount it right ?
[11:23] <xenol> i got probs with OOo when i try to open some odt file it launches document recovery. any clues?
[11:23] <posingaspopular> xenol: search launchpad bugs
[11:23] <combo> !ATI
[11:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:23] <posingaspopular> BrightEyes`: is there a 'configure hardware' somewhere in kubuntu
[11:23] <posingaspopular> i coulda sworn....
[11:24] <dystopianray> posingaspopular: what do you want to configure?
[11:24] <posingaspopular> dystopianray: BrightEyes` needs help configuring a mic
[11:24] <BrightEyes`> posingaspopular: where is that configure hardware?
[11:24] <RytmenPinnen> Does anyone know how to setup a /tmp partition, Mine dissappeared after I tried to add a new partiotio n
[11:25] <posingaspopular> system-kubuntu device manager
[11:25] <posingaspopular> i think
[11:25] <Kachna> guys,just a question....
[11:25] <posingaspopular> its not launching for me though
[11:25] <dystopianray> BrightEyes`: you probably just need to change a few things in alsamixer
[11:25] <ubuntu_> Just installed kubuntu gutsy, adept doenloaded restricted packages for nvidia I tried to correct the wanted resolution, in systems settings-monitor, it asked to restart x config on rebooting I am stuck the display is full of text help me!
[11:25] <posingaspopular> go figure
[11:25] <Kachna> what the hell is kde4 for windows?!
[11:25] <posingaspopular> ubuntu_: dont panic
[11:25] <dystopianray> Kachna: it's kde4 for windows
[11:25] <posingaspopular> type in
[11:25] <serega> heh
[11:25] <serega> port og libraries
[11:25] <serega> *of
[11:25] <cptn_spoon> ubotu: I've followwed everything there and its still not working. all windows redraw so slowly
[11:25] <Kachna> dystopianray: omg -.-
[11:25] <dystopianray> Kachna: you dont' like kde?
[11:25] <posingaspopular> sudo /etc/mitd/?dm restart
[11:25] <TimS> Jucato: Whats the command line to find out the size of a file? Is there a option like ls that will show details like size?
[11:25] <posingaspopular> that should work.....
[11:26] <serega> this means that you can run KDE4 application on windows
[11:26] <Kachna> dystopianray: i do,but i'm curious what is it for on win :-/
[11:26] <Kachna> serega: mmm interesting
[11:26] <wesley> how can i unlock adept it did crashed
[11:26] <rinaldi> hey is there still anyone having problems upgrading to 7.10?
[11:26] <dystopianray> Kachna: it's for using kde4 in windows
[11:26] <BrightEyes`> posingaspopular: it doesnt configure my mic.i ve done all the tests now and nothing
[11:26] <posingaspopular> rinaldi: how are you trying to do it
[11:27] <rand_acs> uhm... ok restartig KDE makes amarok play again...
[11:27] <Kachna> dystopianray: yep i understand...just sounds like a strange combination...
[11:27] <posingaspopular> BrightEyes`: ive never used any mic for a computer... l/
[11:27] <rinaldi> using adept but theres no version upgrade button
[11:27] <posingaspopular> :/
[11:27] <posingaspopular> rinaldi: its easier to do it with a konsole or command line
[11:27] <serega> see ya, gutsy guys ;)
[11:27] <cptn_spoon> Does anyone else actually have the "Restricted Drivers" menu from the System Settings > Advanced window? It's not there on mine. Does that mean Gutsy hasn't updated properly??
[11:27] <riky> Hi i have a problem with the layout of my keybord infact when i install Kubuntu i set the italina layout but after some deys the layout of keybord change in US ayout keybord ho can i change in italian layout keybord?thankyou very match
[11:27] <posingaspopular> sudo apt-get upgrate && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:28] <rand_acs> I think it might be less buggy to try out KDE 4.0
[11:28] <rinaldi> iv tried forcing the version upgrade using kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"
[11:28] <rand_acs> !KDE 4.0
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde 4.0 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <wesley> can someone help me adept did crashed and if i startn it now it says its closed the database
[11:28] <dystopianray> riky: system settings -> regional and language -> keyboard layout
[11:28] <rand_acs> !KDE4
[11:28] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[11:28] <dystopianray> !kde4
[11:29] <posingaspopular> rinaldi: have you tried just doing a dist-upgrade in konsole?
[11:29] <rand_acs> think I'm going to try that package out :)
[11:29] <wesley> can someone help me adept did crashed and if i startn it now it says its closed the database
[11:29] <rinaldi> posingaspopular: iv tried kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"
[11:29] <rinaldi> no il try that thanks
[11:29] <rand_acs> anyone here using it?
[11:30] <dystopianray> rand_acs: it's likely to be incomplete to the point where it is unusable
[11:30] <posingaspopular> rinaldi: run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist upgrade
[11:30] <posingaspopular> run both
[11:30] <QwertyM> rand_acs: highly unusable :(
[11:30] <dystopianray> rand_acs: I have only used earlier betas though
[11:30] <rinaldi> posingaspopular: yeh im trying now
[11:30] <rand_acs> damn
[11:31] <posingaspopular> riky: maybe someone in ubuntu-italy can help you
[11:31] <wesley> can someone help me adept did crashed and if i startn it now it says its closed the database
[11:31] <BrightEyes`> i cant get my mic work. alsamixer says that [Playback] Mic the volume is full. [Capture] Mic : L R Captur, only that for mic .what can i do
[11:31] <posingaspopular> !it | riky
[11:31] <ubotu> riky: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:32] <riky> tankyou
[11:33] <Pete^_> Anyone solved the problem with HUGE fonts at login?
[11:33] <wesley> can someone help me adept did crashed and if i startn it now it says its closed the database
[11:34] <ksivaji> !adept-fix
[11:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-fix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <Hamra> is there a CD burning tool in kubuntu? and what is generally the recommended program, im used to nero on windows.
[11:35] <ksivaji> Hamra k3b
[11:35] <pag> !aptfix | wesley
[11:35] <ubotu> wesley: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[11:36] <ksivaji> hi pag have you tried gutsy
[11:37] <RichardBH> hi - does anyone know how to turn off filtering in adept? It loads (fairly quickly) but then spends a few minutes filtering when I dont need it to
[11:37] <Ash-Fox> Gutsy for the win.
[11:37] <pag> ksivaji, I've been using it for a week :)
[11:37] <Ash-Fox> RichardBH, untick all the filter boxes.
[11:37] <RichardBH> Ash-Fox- thanks
[11:38] <RichardBH> ill try that after this update fails for the 5th time
[11:38] <dystopianray> Hamra: k3b is the best free cd/dvd burning tool on any system
[11:38] <dystopianray> Hamra: nero is available for linux, it supports hd-dvd and blu-ray burning
[11:38] <RichardBH> actually, unrelated question - how can i tell whether im on 7.04 or 7.10?
[11:38] <pag> !release | RichardBH
[11:38] <ubotu> RichardBH: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[11:38] <posingaspopular> RichardBH: lsb_release -a
[11:38] <posingaspopular> in konsole/termial
[11:39] <posingaspopular> run that command
[11:39] <RichardBH> the update closed on fetching updates three times, so i used adept to upgrade the 900 or so packages
[11:39] <pag> hmm... wrong factoid - sorry :\
[11:39] <RichardBH> and KDE has changed
[11:39] <Ash-Fox> RichardBH, if you're installing ubuntu-restricted-extras, it's best todo it win the console: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:39] <Ash-Fox> That way sun java won't screw up the install
[11:39] <RichardBH> but itll still letting me upgrade through adept
[11:39] <ubuntu_> Posing as popular: well your command for the desktop diplay did not work I am back on live cd
[11:39] <posingaspopular> to restart x
[11:40] <posingaspopular> so sorry let me get the correct one
[11:40] <posingaspopular> !x
[11:40] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:40] <RichardBH> ah, i am on 7.10...so why is the upgrade distribution button still there??
[11:40] <posingaspopular> ubuntu_: i told you /imt.d/ or something like that, that was my sloppy handwriting
[11:40] <posingaspopular> so sorry
[11:41] <ubuntu_> posingaspopular:I noted your command on paper , restarted, and now again rebooted on live cd dear
[11:41] <stdin> RichardBH: it's a known bug, just ignore it
[11:41] <ksivaji> RichardBH may be for 8.04 lol
[11:41] <ksivaji> stdin hi
[11:41] <posingaspopular> RichardBH: i had the same issue, something screwy like that
[11:41] <fit4lfe> !dist-upgrade
[11:41] <RichardBH> stdin: its still willing to upgrade/install another 35/4 packages :P
[11:41] <posingaspopular> ubuntu_: yea i gave you the wrong command, sorry
[11:42] <stdin> ksivaji: hey :)
[11:42] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[11:42] <soon> I need KMail to store my stuff on an external drive - where can I change the path for mail folders etc?
[11:42] <stdin> RichardBH: try with apt-get/adept
[11:42] <ubuntu_> imitd/?
[11:42] <BrightEyes`> H E L L O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A n y o n e  for help????????
[11:42] <stdin> !ask
[11:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:42] <wesley> is 5 gb not enough for kubuntu?
[11:42] <posingaspopular> ubuntu_: it should be /inti.d/
[11:42] <ksivaji> !caps
[11:42] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:42] <RichardBH> stdin- the upgrader hasnt crashed yet - i still have my fingers crossed:P
[11:43] <posingaspopular> wesley: depends on wheter or not you have a seperate /home partition
[11:43] <rand_acs> if I had $5 for every time I've ran ps -ef | grep this morning
[11:43] <wesley> i dont have a seperate /home partition in kubuntu
[11:43] <posingaspopular> well it should install
[11:43] <posingaspopular> but there just wont be lots of room
[11:43] <dystopianray> wesley: 5GB should be enough but won't leave much room for anything else
[11:43] <posingaspopular> !kubuntu
[11:44] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[11:44] <wesley> no its seems full now
[11:44] <RichardBH> sdin- ah no, frozen on the last file again
[11:44] <RichardBH> ...and closed
[11:44] <rand_acs> btw, after a few times restarting X kmail is working again
[11:45] <rand_acs> I bet it's some race condition problem
[11:47] <[Bart]> hi, maybe a stupid question (I'm debian user, not ubunut/kubuntu user), if you download the latest 7.10 Kubuntu release, does it contain a 'live cd'?
[11:47] <dystopianray> [Bart]: yes it does
[11:47] <[Bart]> dystopianray : perfect! thanks for the confirmation
[11:48] <rand_acs> btw, have anyone every fixed the issue with the menu bar system tray, that some icon doesn't get "locked" into it, but appear somewhere else on the desktop?
[11:48] <dystopianray> [Bart]: make sure you get the 'desktop' cd
[11:48] <[Bart]> I'll give it to my parents then :) anybody who runs this from a pentium I? if so, does it run smoothly?
[11:48] <zenum> Hey... i just upgraded to gutsy and firefox/swiftfox both have a really ugly black border around all the toolbars
[11:48] <dystopianray> [Bart]: you'll need at least 384MB of ram just to run the livecd
[11:48] <aotianlong> so many people here!
[11:49] <aotianlong> any chinese here?
[11:49] <Ingelsrud> no
[11:49] <stdin> !cn
[11:49] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[11:49] <[Bart]> dystopianray : oeps ..that's a problem. only 128m :)
[11:49] <aotianlong> thanks
[11:49] <aotianlong> try it.
[11:49] <Ingelsrud> im norwegian
[11:49] <dystopianray> [Bart]: then you'll need the altnerate installer cd, which isn't a livecd
[11:49] <aotianlong> #ubuntu-cn
[11:49] <zenum> is there any way i can get firefox to look nice again?
[11:49] <aotianlong> i'm just update to ubuntu 7.10
[11:50] <dystopianray> [Bart]: or get an external drive with a swap parittion hooked up to get it up past 384MB of total memory
[11:50] <aotianlong> it looks very good
[11:50] <RichardBH> dystopianray: is that different to the 7.04 one? I ran that on 320 ok
[11:50] <MaDiNfO_> hi
[11:50] <dystopianray> RichardBH: gutsy is supposed to use more memory than fiesty for some reason
[11:50] <RichardBH> ah, ok
[11:50] <[Bart]> dystopianray: ok, Then I'll just install it on the pc over there. Indeed I can add a lot of swap space..but not good for the performance of course
[11:50] <MaDiNfO_> anyone knows after upgrading to 7.1
[11:50] <MaDiNfO_> why does thing no longer compile ?
[11:50] <RichardBH> it seems to be running ok on said 320mb/300mhz processor :P
[11:50] <MaDiNfO_> ./configures cant find any headers..
[11:51] <nosrednaekim> MaDiNfO_: things like what?
[11:51] <MaDiNfO_> checking cdda_interface.h usability... no
[11:51] <MaDiNfO_> checking cdda_interface.h presence... no
[11:51] <MaDiNfO_> checking for cdda_interface.h... no
[11:51] <MaDiNfO_> for example
[11:52] <MaDiNfO_> and they are there
[11:52] <nosrednaekim> MaDiNfO_: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[11:52] <nosrednaekim> although that may befrom a -dev package..
[11:52] <MaDiNfO_> build-essential is already the newest version.
[11:52] <edulix> I'm having trouble with xgl and kde. when I use kde with xgl in multiple system, It lways happened... meanwhile it works fine with gnome. keyboard. I want my keyboard in spanish, but despite I have kcontrol configure to spanish, my keyboard layout is still messed up. in gnome it works fine, how can I  copy keyboard layout from gnome to kde?
[11:53] <nosrednaekim> MaDiNfO_: what are you compiling?
[11:53] <MaDiNfO_> kaffeine
[11:53]  * E_mE is about to upgrae his laptop to Gutsy with KDE 4 :D
[11:53] <nosrednaekim> may I ask why?
[11:54] <MaDiNfO_> because i need it :)
[11:54] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: why can't you use the kaffeine with gutsy? it is the latest version
[11:54] <nosrednaekim> MaDiNfO_: but its in the repositories
[11:54] <MaDiNfO_> yes it is 0.8.5
[11:54] <MaDiNfO_> i need SVN
[11:54] <MaDiNfO_> :)
[11:54] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: why?
[11:54] <[Bart]> kde4? doesn't look very nice I find.. I like my 3.5 installation.. with compiz-fusion
[11:54] <MaDiNfO_> i make some help coding it
[11:54] <MaDiNfO_> :)
[11:56] <JohnFlux_> djdarkman: ping
[11:56] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: code up teletext support!
[11:56] <JohnFlux_> djdarkman: I added the option to change the units
[11:56] <MaDiNfO_> dystopianray: :)
[11:56] <MaDiNfO_> someday
[11:56] <RytmenPinnen> Hi again, new question: Can I make my /home folder a separate partition?
[11:56] <posingaspopular> RytmenPinnen: yes
[11:56] <jabba80> if i am using "-ovc lavc" and "vcodec=xvid" with mencoder, is there any possibility to use xvid-specific options like "cartoon"?
[11:56] <dystopianray> RytmenPinnen: yes
[11:56] <posingaspopular> and i recomend you do
[11:56] <posingaspopular> so if you hose the os, you can still recover your data
[11:56] <MaDiNfO_> dystopianray: 1st u need to help me out
[11:56] <RytmenPinnen> posingaspopular:
[11:56] <posingaspopular> and you can mount /home to any distro
[11:57] <RytmenPinnen> can I do it form a live session
[11:57] <posingaspopular> .... i havent touched a live cd in months
[11:57] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: you're probably missing required -dev packages
[11:57] <posingaspopular> i want to so yes, but i dont want to get hit either
[11:57] <voicu> how do i check if X has randr enabled?
[11:57] <MaDiNfO_> dystopianray: no i am not
[11:57] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: try: sudo apt-get build-dep kaffeine
[11:57] <nosrednaekim> RytmenPinnen: yeah
[11:58] <RytmenPinnen> posingaspopular:  ah k, Well, the thing is the update tool trashed my system so now I'm sitting on a live session trying to figure out how to save my files
[11:58] <stdin> jabba80: use -xvidencopts
[11:58] <MaDiNfO_> dystopianray: libstreamer
[11:58] <posingaspopular> yea thats why /home is critical ;0
[11:58] <MaDiNfO_> not needed but ok
[11:58] <posingaspopular> my gutsy install is still all over the place too
[11:58] <RytmenPinnen> :P
[11:59] <MaDiNfO_> dystopianray: the same
[11:59] <MaDiNfO_> :)
[11:59] <ubuntu> posingaspopular: Dear the new command is also not working, and I dont know withiout gui how to go in console and type, I think I will reinstall once, if it works fine, or windows vista is the ultimate
[12:00] <contrast83> RytmenPinnen: I only suggest this as a last resort, but it worked for me - From the live CD, mount the hard drive if it isn't already, delete everything in it except /home, and rename /home to a folder that's not in the default filesystem, then install from the alternate cd, but do *not* format the drive
[12:00] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: you probably have it configured differently to how ubuntu does
[12:00] <RytmenPinnen> hmm, I see I guess that Could work
[12:00] <posingaspopular> sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  isn't launching the graphics for you?
[12:01] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: so it has different build deps than ubuntu's version
[12:01] <ubuntu> No!
[12:01] <MaDiNfO_> erm
[12:01] <nosrednaekim> contrast83: or you could just shrink the partition and reinstall
[12:01] <MaDiNfO_> how can i fix this ?
[12:01] <contrast83> RytmenPinnen: you have to use the alternate disc to install though. the live cd won't let you install to an unclean target
[12:01] <posingaspopular> really?!
[12:01] <posingaspopular> i have no idea how to fix your issue
[12:01] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: you did replace the ? mark with kdm right?
[12:01] <RytmenPinnen> oh
[12:01] <nosrednaekim> *k
[12:02] <RytmenPinnen> witch is the alternate disc?
[12:02] <ubuntu> I even tried recivery mode typed the command their but failed to get the results
[12:02] <contrast83> nosrednaekim: that should work too. unfortunately, when i was in his situation, i couldn't get qparted or gparted to work, so i had to do the above.
[12:02] <jabba80> stdin: even if i use "-ovc lavc" and not "-ovc xvid"? Isn't that interfering?
[12:02] <posingaspopular> i fail
[12:02]  * nosrednaekim winders if anyone has heard of cfdisk
[12:02] <ubuntu> No
[12:02] <contrast83> not i
[12:03] <jabba80> thought "-xvidencopts" was only for "-ovc xvid"
[12:03] <kreib> upgrade to gutsy seems to hang at configuring ttf-dejavu, anyone seen the same ?
[12:03] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: try installing libcdparanoia0-dev
[12:03] <dystopianray> nosrednaekim: you nee help with cfdisk?
[12:04] <MaDiNfO_> dystopianray: libcdparanoia0-dev is already the newest version.
[12:04] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: did you run "/etc/init.d/kdm start"?
[12:04] <MaDiNfO_> anyway how can i check include dir in system ?
[12:04] <stdin> jabba80: it may be, not sure. but it's the only way I see to configure the codec options
[12:04] <jabba80> k
[12:04] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: can you configure it so it does not compile the cd ripping feature?
[12:04] <nosrednaekim> dystopianray: nah... certain others were saying that they couldn't get graprted working...so they had to resort to extreme things ;)
[12:04] <ubuntu>  nosrednaekim: I have to replace the question mark with 'K'?
[12:04] <jabba80> mencoder at least doesn't complain
[12:04] <RytmenPinnen> nosrednaekim: what do you mean with this? "or you could just shrink the partition and reinstall"
[12:05] <MaDiNfO_> dystopianray: yes i can but the problem is that configure can find anything in /usr/include
[12:05] <MaDiNfO_> even dvb
[12:05] <MaDiNfO_> or so
[12:05] <ubuntu>  nosrednaekim: so that is the right command sure?
[12:05] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: hrrm well i'm not sure
[12:05] <nosrednaekim> RytmenPinnen: erase everything but your /home on that partition, shrink it, and then make a new partition for /
[12:05] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: small k, but yes
[12:05] <RytmenPinnen> nosrednaekim:  and that is "doable" fromt the live cd?
[12:05] <ubuntu> Than I need not reinstall
[12:06] <B-Minus> question : why are the firefox buttons like "google search" etc.. different than windows .. they look very old
[12:06] <nosrednaekim> RytmenPinnen: certainly
[12:06] <RytmenPinnen> sounds good to me
[12:06] <jabba80> stdin: with -sws 7  and scaling it does a nice result
[12:06] <jabba80> (even without cartoon) :D
[12:06] <stdin> nice :)
[12:06] <DaleksDivided> B-Minus: its the same with firefox on windows
[12:06] <ubuntu> After booting text lines running this and this comes one below another, and finaly the curser blinks without moving down, here I have to type the command right?
[12:07] <nosrednaekim> if it says something like "root@ubuntu$" yes
[12:07] <posingaspopular> nosrednaekim: why does ubuto say to /etc/init/?dm restart?
[12:07] <ubuntu> No it doesn,t, how do I go there
[12:08] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: becasue there is also GDM, which comes with ubuntu.
[12:08] <ubuntu> In recovery mode what you mentioned i could see that
[12:09] <ubuntu> Shall I go in recovery mode and type that command
[12:09] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: ok, in non-recovery mode, press "ctrl+alt+f2" and log in from there
[12:09] <B-Minus> how is the apple-like taskbar called ? can i install it ?
[12:10] <B-Minus> apple-panel
[12:10] <ubuntu> I will have to restart now as I am on live cd, see you back all
[12:10] <nosrednaekim> B-Minus: kooldock?
[12:10] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu: ah... don't forget to run that program with sudo
[12:11] <B-Minus> hmmz
[12:11] <B-Minus> maybe
[12:11] <B-Minus> i thought compiz was already default installed with kubuntu 7.10 ?
[12:11] <B-Minus> but i dont see it at the install
[12:11] <posingaspopular> nope
[12:11] <TimS> B-Minus: Its not the full Compiz
[12:11] <posingaspopular> !compiz | B-Minus
[12:11] <ubotu> B-Minus: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[12:12] <nosrednaekim> B-Minus: nope, you have to manually install it (but its not hard)
[12:12] <B-Minus> tnx
[12:12] <TimS> Ubuntu comes with a stripped down desktop effects but Kubuntu doesnt
[12:12] <B-Minus> you are all veryu helpfull
[12:12] <E_mE> can you have a KDE 4 and KDE 3.5 instance installed in kubuntu and then use KDE 4 when you want but always default to KDE 3.5?
[12:13] <dystopianray> E_mE: yes, the same way you can have kde and gnome
[12:13] <E_mE> thank you
[12:13] <Hamra> i was trying to see samba shares, when it said "The process for the smb protocol died unexpectedly.", any ideas?
[12:13] <RytmenPinnen> nosrednaekim: K, I'm deleting files now, where do I shrink /home?
[12:13] <nosrednaekim> E_mE: certainly
[12:13] <nosrednaekim> RytmenPinnen: qtparted
[12:14] <RytmenPinnen> should I wait for all files to be deleted before running that?
[12:14] <nosrednaekim> RytmenPinnen: yeah :)
[12:14] <RytmenPinnen> :)
[12:14] <contrast83> has anyone here been able to run KDE 4 Beta 3 as a full session? Mine crashes back to KDM about half way through the splash screen
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> contrast83: yes,
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> contrast83: you need "kde4case-dev"
[12:15] <voicu> how can i find out if the X server has randr enabled? i can't find anything in the man pages
[12:16] <TimS> Have they made the Kde$ origional artwork yet?
[12:16] <TimS> 4*
[12:16] <contrast83> nosrednaekim: oh ok. i was going strictly by what it said on kubuntu.org. i'll try installing that, thanks.
[12:16] <dystopianray> voicu: what driver are you using?
[12:16] <voicu> mga
[12:16] <dystopianray> voicu: and what version of randr are you takling about?
[12:16] <dystopianray> voicu: just type 'xrandr' on the terminal
[12:17] <nosrednaekim> contrast83: whoops "kde4base-dev"
[12:17] <contrast83> nosrednaekim: so since i don't have that installed (just kde-workspace), it's normal that i can run kde4 stuff over my kde 3 session, but not kde 4 as a full session?
[12:17] <contrast83> nosrednaekim: i figured :-)
[12:17] <nosrednaekim> contrast83: and that is on kubuntu.org;)
[12:17] <voicu> dystopianray: i need randr for rotating the screen
[12:17] <nosrednaekim> contrast83: yeah
[12:17] <dystopianray> voicu: run xrandr and it will tell you if it can rotate
[12:17] <voicu> i typed xrandr, a bunch of resolutions appeared
[12:17] <voicu> nope, i don't think so
[12:17] <contrast83> ohh. wow. how'd i miss that.
[12:17] <dystopianray> voicu: does it have a 'rotations possible' line?
[12:18] <MaDiNfO_> dystopianray: i quit
[12:18] <MaDiNfO_> :1
[12:18] <MaDiNfO_> :\
[12:18] <voicu> no
[12:18] <stdin> contrast83: the instructions were updated to say "Install kdebase-workspace and kde4base-dev."
[12:18] <dystopianray> voicu: pastebin the output
[12:18] <dystopianray> MaDiNfO_: try asking for help in #ubuntu
[12:18] <contrast83> stdin: oh ok. i don't feel so dumb now. thanks
[12:19] <voicu> dystopianray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41322/
[12:20] <dystopianray> voicu: it looks like you do not have rotation support
[12:20] <voicu> yeah...
[12:20] <voicu> can i enable it?
[12:20] <dystopianray> voicu: probably not unless you write a patch against the video driver
[12:21] <voicu> hmm... nice
[12:21] <voicu> isn't there a software only solution?
[12:21] <dystopianray> no idea
[12:21] <voicu> well thanks anyway
[12:21] <voicu> ... back to square 1
[12:25] <feierfoox> hello
[12:25] <feierfoox> i have a question
[12:25] <voicu> dude, just ask
[12:25] <feierfoox> i have a SATA Drive with exisiting ext3 File System and files on it
[12:25] <voicu> ^^
[12:26] <feierfoox> on this drive, i want to make a new kubuntu-installation
[12:26] <feierfoox> can i do it without loosing some of the files?
[12:26] <bottiger> I just upgraded to gutsy on my desktop. But unlike my laptop it didn't install apparmor, stringi, etc. However the splash-screen and artwork is all gutys
[12:26] <voicu> feierfoox: do you have only one partition?
[12:26] <feierfoox> yes
[12:27] <voicu> feierfoox: i think you can install it without formatting but you should resize it and make a separate partition for the system
[12:27] <feierfoox> hmmm,the drive is totaly full
[12:27] <feierfoox> only some gigs left
[12:28] <feierfoox> :(
[12:28] <voicu> feierfoox: do you want to install linux again or something else?
[12:28] <feierfoox> somezthing else
[12:28] <nosrednaekim> feierfoox: delete some of those illegal movies then ;)
[12:28] <feierfoox> i have an old dapper-session on my old IDE drive
[12:28] <feierfoox> the sata drive is my second
[12:28] <feierfoox> :/
[12:29] <voicu> feierfoox: what os do you want to install? if it can work with ext3 you have no chance but to create another partition
[12:29] <voicu> *can't
[12:29] <feierfoox> ok
[12:29] <feierfoox> kubuntu of course
[12:29] <voicu> can't you install over the old ide drive?
[12:30] <feierfoox> there is my /home/
[12:30] <feierfoox> i don't want to make experiements
[12:30] <voicu> ah
[12:30] <voicu> dunno, put some of the stuff on dvds, make some space and create a new partition
[12:31] <voicu> then you won't have problems again if you want to reinstall
[12:31] <voicu> 5-10gb should be enough
[12:31] <feierfoox> hmmm
[12:31] <feierfoox> that idea sound good
[12:32] <feierfoox> which kde tool is recommented for creating partitions?
[12:32] <feierfoox> on gnome i used gPart
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> qtparted
[12:32] <feierfoox> qtparted? does the live CD contains it
[12:32] <voicu> yeah, that
[12:33] <voicu> yeah
[12:33] <voicu> (?)
[12:33] <feierfoox> because, my running system can't mount my target drive
[12:33] <feierfoox> ok
[12:33] <feierfoox> should 8 GB be enough?
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> should be
[12:34] <voicu> a fresh install is about 2-3gb
[12:34] <voicu> if you don't need many programs at once it's more than enough
[12:34] <soon> Im not familiar with instant messaging services AT ALL .... if I choose AIM e.g will I be able to send messages to MSN or Jabber users and vice versa?
[12:34] <dystopianray> soon: no
[12:35] <Yammeh> They're different protocols and servers, soon
[12:35] <soon> so I need to establish a whole range of accounts then ?
[12:35] <dystopianray> soon: that's like saying: if I speak german will I still be able to talk to the french?
[12:35] <dystopianray> soon: that's right
[12:35] <soon> okay - well, as I said - Ive never used any IM services b4
[12:35] <stdin> soon: kopete supports all those protocols (and more)
[12:35] <B-Minus> intel gfx are not supported by compiz ?
[12:35] <dystopianray> soon: jabber can simplify things through the use of transports
[12:36] <B-Minus> i remember a year ago i installed beryl and it worked
[12:36] <dystopianray> B-Minus: intel graphics have the best support for compiz
[12:36] <B-Minus> hm
[12:36] <soon> so jabber will 'convert' to other formats?
[12:36] <B-Minus> i only have a intel 915GM card
[12:36] <voicu> can qtparted resize partitions without destroing data?
[12:36] <stdin> soon: no, you use multiple accounts with kopete
[12:36] <dystopianray> B-Minus: I have a 915GM card, compiz works perfectly
[12:36] <nosrednaekim> voicu: sure
[12:37] <voicu> well the option is grayed out
[12:37] <soon> okay - multiple accounts it is then :-(
[12:37] <dystopianray> soon: jabber can be setup so that when you login to your jabber account it logs into msn, aim, yahoo etc and lets you talk to people on those networks
[12:37] <dystopianray> soon: but it still needs you to have an account on each network
[12:37] <B-Minus> dystopianray: strange i must be doing something wrong then
[12:37] <soon> okay - thanks
[12:37] <B-Minus> !comiz
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about comiz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <B-Minus> !compiz
[12:37] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[12:37] <dystopianray> B-Minus: that is likely
[12:37] <guest22> where ispanish channel ?
[12:38] <stdin> !es
[12:38] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[12:38] <posingaspopular> bed
[12:38] <guest22> thanks you, gracias
[12:44] <haffi> Hi, I was checking if nvidia-glx-new would work better than nvidia-glx for my card, but I found out that it wouldn't work, so I installed nvidia-glx again. Now I get a API mismatch between the kernel and the driver
[12:45] <DaNi`M1> hello
[12:45] <DaNi`M1> official repositories are down?
[12:45] <baudthief> I need to install XP (for gaming) on a seperate physical drive, how do I go about setting up a multiboot system with Kubuntu as my primary OS?
[12:46] <dystopianray> anyone else notice that gutsy fonts are blurrier?
[12:46] <baudthief> actually... I forgot my bios allows you to select a physical boot HDD after POST, disregard my question
[12:46] <DaNi`M1> baudthief: with grub
[12:46] <nosrednaekim> haffi: did you try restarting?
[12:47] <DaNi`M1> kubuntu install grub, you can install before startup-manager and config grub
[12:47] <DaNi`M1> is easy
[12:47] <haffi> nosrednaekim: Yes, I did that
[12:48] <haffi> nosrednaekim: startx gives me the API mismatch error
[12:48] <alain_> allo
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> haffi: remove all of the nvidia driver stuff with synaptic and then try reinstalling the nvidia-glx
[12:48] <alain_> qui peut medai
[12:49] <alain_> personne
[12:50] <stdin> !fr
[12:50] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:50] <alain_> c pour amsn
[12:50] <alain_> je voix pas la taille de police
[12:50] <haffi> nosrednaekim: Will do
[12:51] <stdin> alain_: /join #kubuntu-fr
[12:51] <alain_> oui mais j'ai pas trouvé
[12:53] <kowesix> how can i mount mds files? Oo
[12:53] <stdin> kowesix: you have to convert to ISO
[12:53] <stdin> !iso
[12:53] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[12:54] <kowesix> does the mini-/maxi-mds image still work when i converted it to iso? :]
[12:54] <darkox> hi
[12:55] <Rise_Against> i got a problem with the upgrade to gutsy :( there are always errors :[
[12:55] <stdin> kowesix: afaik, mds is just a compressed ISO omage
[12:55] <stdin> image
[12:55] <Rise_Against> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41326/
[12:55] <darkox> mhm... maybe anyone can tell me how to install kavascript to kubuntu?
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> stdin: c ya! i'm goint o try to get some python work going..
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> have fun.
[12:56] <stdin> nosrednaekim: heh, have fun ;)
[12:56] <haffi> nosrednaekim: Just FIY, the problem is now fixed, I deletted all nvidia_new files fomr /lib/linux-restricted-modules/*kernel-number* directory
[12:56] <stdin> Rise_Against: try "sudo apt-get update" (and post the output to pastebin)
[12:57] <haffi> nosrednaekim: Maybe aptitude remove nvidia-glx-new --purge would have worked also
[12:57] <stdin> darkox: if it's not in the repositories you have to manually install it, using instructions from where you got it from
[12:58] <kraut> moin
[12:58] <baudthief> is there a way to convert a vmware installation to a "normal" installation?
[12:58] <Rise_Against> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41327/
[12:59] <Rise_Against> duplicate sources o_O
[12:59] <stdin> Rise_Against: yep, post your /etc/apt/sources.list and we'll sort them out
[13:00] <Rise_Against> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/41328/
[13:00] <Carnage\> Rise_Against: Just look at the bottom...
[13:01] <Carnage\> Remove the last three lines
[13:01] <Rise_Against> yep
[13:01] <stdin> remove those lines and it should be ok
[13:01] <Minnozz> Hi, I'm running Kubuntu Gutsy, and my wireless network randomly drops. KNetworkManager is not responding to anything, it freezes in the state just before the drop (the info)
[13:01] <Minnozz> anybody knows why and how to fix it?
[13:02] <Rise_Against> thanks :) upgrading now..
[13:04] <baudthief> is gutsy vastly improved (stability etc) compared to feisty?
[13:04] <Rise_Against> and.. if anyone got time.. how can i change the size of my ext3 partition ? i tried it with qtparted on a live cd but it didnt work :(
[13:04] <ubuntu__> K I\ve deleted all files now
[13:04] <RytmenPinnen> except 2 files that wont go away
[13:04] <RurouniJones> Anyone got recommendations for a Laptop that behaves nicely with Kubuntu and has a decent GFX card for gaming?
[13:04] <RytmenPinnen> not sure if they even excist
[13:04] <RurouniJones> Also, gobs of RAM and a nice CPU
[13:05] <RytmenPinnen> posingaspopular: it was qtparted right_
[13:05] <stdin> RurouniJones: try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:07] <Rise_Against> bye :)
[13:07] <RurouniJones> Ta stdin
[13:08] <SMP_ca> @
[13:10] <darkox> och god... I felt like totally newbe.... Today is my first day in kubuntu after ~7years windows :)
[13:10] <RytmenPinnen> posingaspopular: you still here? or anyone else that can help me with partitioning from a live session
[13:10] <massi__> i think no
[13:11] <queequeg> es.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be down!
[13:12] <Minnozz> I'm running Kubuntu Gutsy, and my wireless network randomly drops. KNetworkManager is not responding to anything, it freezes in the state just before the drop (the info). Anybody knows why & how to fix it?
[13:12] <massi__> why?
[13:12] <stdin> queequeg: switch to another one then
[13:12] <queequeg> which one, please?
[13:12] <stdin> queequeg: try the main one
[13:13] <massi__> are you sure?
[13:13] <queequeg> but then I'll lose the language translations (into spanish) right?
[13:13] <stdin> massi__: ?
[13:13] <darkox> is in kubuntu something like my computer? :) i'm totally green here :D
[13:13] <stdin> queequeg: no
[13:14] <stdin> darkox: try system:/ in konqueror
[13:14] <massi__> where are you from?
[13:14] <queequeg> hmm, thanks, switching
[13:14] <ubuntu> Hello together, i have a problem installing kubuntu. i started from cd and if i try to install it by pressing the install button on the desktop, nothing happens
[13:14] <RytmenPinnen> Could someone help me with partitioning with qtparted from a live session
[13:14] <ubuntu> what could that be?
[13:15] <darkox> how to see how many free space is in my hard drive?
[13:15] <massi__> anyone speak spanish?
[13:15] <RytmenPinnen> there\s a spanish kubuntuchannel i think
[13:15] <queequeg> Yo hablo español
[13:15] <Azzco> I've been able to boot from liveCDs before but now I only get "ISOLINUX 3.36 Debian-2007-08-30" before I can selext anything
[13:15] <stdin> darkox: from media:/ right click on the partition, or in konsole "df -h"
[13:16] <stdin> !es
[13:16] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[13:16] <Azzco> select*
[13:16] <lgcovizzi> alguém aqui fala português?
[13:16] <stdin> !pt
[13:16] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[13:16] <ONeill|chill> the install application loads about 10 seconds and the closes himself
[13:16] <queequeg> alright, thanks
[13:17] <massi__> mmh
[13:17] <massi__> i speak italian
[13:17] <ONeill|chill> can someone help me?
[13:18] <RytmenPinnen> ONeill|chill:  I\m far from an expert but you could try to reboot and try again maby
[13:19] <ONeill|chill> hm, ok, i will try that
[13:19] <BrightEyes`> ive just setup my webcam and see it working in kopete.when i login to my account it crashes.any other goods programs.i cant configure my webcam in amsn
[13:19] <RytmenPinnen> you logging on to msn?
[13:19] <BrightEyes`> RytmenPinnen: yes
[13:20] <RytmenPinnen> cause theres a bug causing kopete to crash when logging on to msn, dunno when a fix is here, probably soon
[13:20] <ksivaji> openchrome (xserver-xorg-video-openchrome ) is available for gutsy or not
[13:20] <rand_acs> there is a fix
[13:20] <RytmenPinnen> does pidgin support webcams?
[13:20] <rand_acs> people where talking about it yesterday
[13:20] <RytmenPinnen> aha, interesting,......... and im still trying to update
[13:21] <BrightEyes`> rand_acs: fix for what? kopete?
[13:21] <rand_acs> yes
[13:21] <BrightEyes`> please let me know
[13:21] <stdin> BrightEyes`: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3041
[13:21] <rand_acs> I don't use it myself, so I can't help there
[13:23] <BrightEyes`> rand_acs: my web cam isnt showing the picture very good.ive seen a similar webcam working on windoze xp and it was fine.what can i do for that?
[13:24] <rand_acs> BrightEyes`: no idea, I've never owned one, crap broadband here in .za :(
[13:24] <BrightEyes`> my web cam isnt showing the picture very good.ive seen a similar webcam working on windoze xp and it was fine.what can i do for that?
[13:24] <BrightEyes`> rand_acs: thank you
[13:24] <seriekrock> hey
[13:24] <darkox> i downloaded one file into desktop but I can't find it? whats wrong?
[13:25] <ksivaji> stdin do you remember that you create prozill.deb for me
[13:25] <rand_acs> BrightEyes`: I would just have a look around online, maybe search for your model + linux info
[13:25] <stdin> ksivaji: yeah
[13:25] <BrightEyes`> rand_acs: aham
[13:25] <rand_acs> BrightEyes`: btw, that link stdin put down there fixes the Kopete bug
[13:26] <ksivaji> stdin how to do that because i need .deb package for openchrome for guitsy
[13:27] <stdin> !packaging | ksivaji
[13:27] <ubotu> ksivaji: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[13:27] <ksivaji> stdin thanks
[13:27] <seriekrock> !codecs
[13:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[13:27] <stdin> ksivaji: depending on the project your making, it can be quite straight forward or a bit complicated. the guys in #ubuntu-motu are great to ask for help
[13:28] <rand_acs> what do you guys think of the new Dolphin btw?
[13:28] <seriekrock> its nice
[13:29] <ksivaji> stdin i cant untar openchrome source available  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome here
[13:30] <stdin> ksivaji: why? what happens?
[13:30] <darkox> how to create new user?
[13:30] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[13:30] <ksivaji> stdin ark return some error
[13:31] <ksivaji> darkox system setting->user management
[13:32] <filosofico> hello: I have a problem, could someone help me?
[13:32] <stdin> ksivaji: packaging is really a command line thing, download the 3 file (.orig.tar.gz, .diff.gz and .dsc) then do "dpkg-source -x xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357-0ubuntu3.dsc" to extract it
[13:32] <rand_acs> stdin: how do you get the x86_64 fix for that bug?
[13:32] <ksivaji> stdin ok
[13:33] <stdin> rand_acs: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3041
[13:33] <stdin> rand_acs: opps, http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.8-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[13:34] <rand_acs> stdin: thanks mate
[13:36] <Thonolan> i want to upgrade my system from feisty to gutsy and use this link http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade  but it still doesnt work and show me an upgrade option
[13:37] <stdin> did you enable "Pre release updates" ?
[13:37] <Thonolan> stdin: i have to translate it to german  i think so
[13:38] <BluesKaj> !ask | filosofico
[13:38] <ubotu> filosofico: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[13:38] <stdin> Thonolan: after you enable that repository, you have to click Fetch Updates then Full Upgrade to install the newer version of adept
[13:38] <ksivaji> stdin http://pastebin.com/m24a11a32 signature error
[13:39] <filosofico> just a moment, thanks
[13:39] <stdin> Thonolan: the alternative is to press Alt-F2 and put in: kdesu "adept_manager --version-upgrade"       (quotes matter)
[13:40] <Thonolan> stdin thanks a lot
[13:40] <rand_acs> I must say GDebi seems really cool so far
[13:40] <rand_acs> Thonolan: just note that didn't work for me
[13:41] <ksivaji> stdin what to do now ?
[13:41] <rand_acs> running the script manually I saw quite a few errors, modules that was missing
[13:41] <seriekrock> !compiz
[13:41] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[13:41] <stdin> ksivaji: the "xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357.orig.tar.gz" seems wrong, it's the wrong size
[13:42] <stdin> ksivaji: try re-downloading it from "http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9151559/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6%2Bsvn357.orig.tar.gz"
[13:42] <filosofico> I have a notebook HP nx6110 with kubuntu7.10: when I close the lid the screen correctly turn OFF but when I reopen it the screen remains turned ON only few second and then turn OFF again. If I move the mouse he relights but OFF again then. To resolve the problem I must restart. Which is the problem?
[13:43] <ksivaji> stdin same error
[13:44] <kowesix> stdin: i installed mds2iso, but i have rly no clue how to use it -.-
[13:44] <flak1> wow,  running this from the livecd,   talking vid pidgeon
[13:44] <stdin> ksivaji: does ls -l still show the size as "1433600" ?
[13:45] <flak1> flak1 = flake :)
[13:45] <ksivaji> -rw-r--r-- 1 sivaji sivaji 1433600 2007-10-20 18:12 xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357.orig.tar.gz
[13:45] <stdin> kowesix: open konqueror and put in  man:/mds2iso   for usage instructions
[13:46] <Thonolan> stdin thanks your hint was succesfully now upgrade start
[13:46] <stdin> ksivaji: that's not what I get, remove it then use wget to download it "rm xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357.orig.tar.gz  ; wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9151559/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6%2Bsvn357.orig.tar.gz"
[13:46] <stdin> Thonolan: great :)
[13:47] <Thonolan> stdin: wish me luck :)
[13:47] <stdin> good luck ;)
[13:47] <kowesix> irc://irc.freenode.net/ignus
[13:47] <kowesix> argh
[13:47] <kowesix> s
[13:47] <Thonolan> i got an msg that canocial stop supprot a few things
[13:47] <Thonolan> stdin: is that ok ?
[13:47] <stdin> those packages are in universe now
[13:47] <Thonolan> ah ok
[13:47] <Thonolan> wow great support here
[13:48] <origaman> Hi all, using fiest, sending files from my mobile to my laptop via bluetooth worked flawlessly. Now I've upgraded to gutsy and all I get is "Error" on my mobile (PDA phone running Windows Mobile 2003). Any ideas? Is this a known problem?
[13:49] <B-Minus> hmm
[13:49] <B-Minus> there seem to be a lot of bugs in compiz
[13:50] <B-Minus> i dont see the top bar at any window .. so i cant minimize etc ...
[13:50] <B-Minus> also, sometimes i dont seem to have focus on a window
[13:50] <stdin> did you install "compiz-kde" ?
[13:50] <B-Minus> so i cant type
[13:50] <B-Minus> ye
[13:51] <B-Minus> how do i start it then
[13:51] <stdin> hmm, try asking in #compiz-fusion
[13:51] <B-Minus> just compiz --replace ?
[13:51]  * stdin doesn't use compiz
[13:51] <ksivaji> stdin dpkg-source: error: file xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357-0ubuntu3.diff.gz has size 9948 instead of expected 3370
[13:51] <B-Minus> what do you mean
[13:51] <Saied> origaman: what is the error?
[13:52] <stdin> B-Minus: ask in the compiz channel #compiz-fusion
[13:52] <B-Minus> tnx
[13:52] <filosofico> Hello to all. I have a big problem. I have a notebook HP nx6110 with kubuntu7.10: when I close the lid the screen correctly turn OFF but when I reopen it the screen remains turned ON only few second and then turn OFF again. If I move the mouse he relights but turn OFF again then. To resolve the problem I must restart. Which is the problem?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> where's the line in about:config on FF to enable it to open from links in Thunderbird ?
[13:52] <stdin> ksivaji: that's very odd, when I download it (from the same link), the size is 249450
[13:53] <origaman> My PDA shows only "Fehler" (i.e. "Error"). Typical Microsoft informative error message...
[13:53] <ksivaji> stdin one second ya that one is correct other file return error
[13:53] <ksivaji> s*
[13:53] <queequeg> if my sources.list does not contain any reference to es.archive.ubuntu.com which is down, how come adept-manager keeps trying to connect (and getting stuck)???
[13:53] <rand_acs> doesn't anyone else have this system tray bug when running compiz?
[13:53] <combo> have u ever had a problem with 'ldconfig deferred processing now taking place' during installation of some DEB packages ?
[13:54] <rand_acs> where the icon get's displayed in it's own window?
[13:54] <stdin> combo: that's not a problem, that's by design
[13:54] <origaman> ... and kubuntu doesn't show anything (there is the bluetooth icon in the system tray, but greyed out)
[13:55] <stdin> ksivaji: ahh, yeah. I think the downloads are wrong somehow, try "rm xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357-0ubuntu3.diff.gz xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357-0ubuntu3.dsc" then "wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9151560/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6%2Bsvn357-0ubuntu3.diff.gz http://launchpadlibrarian.net/9151561/xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6%2Bsvn357-0ubuntu3.dsc"
[13:55] <combo> stdin: so IF this is NOT an error why can't install DEB packages ? :] any ideas ?
[13:55] <stdin> combo: do you get an error?
[13:55] <origaman> Sending files TO my mobile is working, though.
[13:56] <combo> stdin: nope... there's nothing i get... just 'Processing triggers for libc6 ...' and also this with ldconfig deferred... and nothing happened :/ (kub-7.10)
[13:56] <combo> stdin: before (on feisty) it worked fine
[13:56] <ksivaji> dpkg-source: error: file xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.6+svn357.orig.tar.gz has size 9948 instead of expected 249450
[13:56] <stdin> combo: what package? and how do you know it's not installing?
[13:57] <BrightEyes`> in kopete my webcam doesnt !!! it recognises it but when i send to someone else my webcam he doesnt take anything.what can i do for that?
[13:57] <combo> stdin: nerolinux <IP_ADDRESS>. x86 [.deb] and it is probably not installing cuz there is NO nero :)
[13:57] <stdin> ksivaji: strange
[13:58] <combo> stdin: same version of nerolinux i've been installing many times on FEISTY
[13:58] <patrizio> hello
[13:58] <queequeg> is there a way to avoid es.archive.ubuntu.com server while upgrading?
[13:58] <patrizio>  could someone help me?
[13:58] <origaman> Saied: Did you get my answers? I'm new to IRC and didn't include your nickname...
[13:58] <stdin> combo: why are you installing nero, it's horrible
[13:58] <combo> stdin: and what else can i use as well ? :)
[13:58] <stdin> combo: k3d
[13:58] <combo> stdin: if u gimme any ideas, i change my mind :D
[13:59] <combo> stdin: u mean k3B ?
[13:59] <stdin> combo: k3b < not k3d
[13:59] <combo> stdin: right
[13:59] <Saied> origaman: im searching to find it
[13:59] <origaman> Saied: sorry...
[13:59] <stdin> ksivaji: it works here when I wget the files...
[13:59] <combo> stdin: this is installed by default... will try that... thanks for solution ;)
[14:00] <filosofico> does nobody know how to help me?
[14:00] <Hamra> hi, im installing feisty on a computer, and doing manual partitioning, how can i tell the program, that when i decrease the size of my windows partition, i want the free space to be put before the partition, not after it?
[14:01] <stdin> ksivaji: try this http://stdin.pastebin.us/40525
[14:01] <patrizio> there is an italian helper here?
[14:01] <edouard> co to jest?
[14:01] <stdin> !it
[14:02] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:02] <ksivaji> stdin sorry for delay
[14:03] <Saied> origaman: sending from Linux to mobile is ok and reverse has problem means its the windoze job! :D any log? any message?
[14:03] <Azzco> My boot takes forever it says something about no resume image... Anyone else have this problem?
[14:03] <DexterF> !evms
[14:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:03] <seriekrock> is firestarer still the best gui for firewall, and clamav for antivirus?
[14:03] <ksivaji> gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found
[14:04] <DexterF> ok, who else has the "evms hogs disks on gutsy upgrade" issue and what can I do to prevent it in the first place?
[14:04] <Carnage\> ksivaji: Download the respective key from a key server first...
[14:04] <stdin> ksivaji: that's ok, as long as there's no other error
[14:05] <ksivaji> Carnage/ stdin how to get the key
[14:05] <kowesix> when i want to mount a selfcreated iso, there's an error called: mount: not a directory -.-
[14:06] <Saied> kowesix: for mounting iso use -o loop
[14:06] <origaman> Saied: Well, since I changed my Linux and didn't touch my Windows Mobile, I strongly believe it's a Linux problem... Something with obex server and kbluetooth, but I don't know where to look for messages (/var/log/messages doesn't contain anything other than hal_device_added() entries for my USB bluetooth dongle)
[14:06] <kowesix> Saied: error comes when i use 'sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop file.iso /media/iso/'
[14:06] <stdin> ksivaji: see the line above it, with "KEY ID 80DF6D58". you use that with "gpg --recv-keys 80DF6D58" then "gpg --export -a 80DF6D58 | sudo apt-key add - " but you don't have to do that if you don't want
[14:07] <kristjan_> kubuntuforums.net is down?
[14:07] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to solve the CUPS problem "Print file was not accepted (client-error-request-value-too-long)!" for print jobs larger than (seems to be) 32M?
[14:09] <Saied> kowesix: dont use -t iso9660. if the result is the same iso maybe corrupted
[14:10] <kowesix> kay, same result.. iso corrupted :p
[14:10] <BluesKaj> what happened to kmail ... that silly kontact proggy is a PITA
[14:10] <Saied> origaman: maybe it is a bug! send it too<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:11] <ksivaji> stdin ya ok i got new folder with some file
[14:11] <stdin> !bug | bugs should be reported to launchpad
[14:11] <ubotu> bugs should be reported to launchpad: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[14:11] <Saied> kowesix: md5sum it and compare it with that one on the site
[14:11] <Hamra> how can i get "parted" to resize ntfs partitions?
[14:11] <stdin> ksivaji: that's the package, now you need to create the deb from it
[14:12] <vlt> BluesKaj: KMail is one element of kontact you can run standalone,too.
[14:12] <Saied> Hamra: install ntfsprogs package! it is not safe for ntfs yet
[14:12] <Hamra> i'll try my luck, thnx
[14:13] <kaminix> Anyone here know how to fix SCIM/SKIM related problems?
[14:15] <origaman> Saied: Well, it seems to be... I just found this: http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=31754 Kubuntu uses the 1.0 beta8, too. Why the * are they using so much beta software (the bluetooth problem isn't the only one I have with gutsy. Fiesty was working so much better, so I begin thinking about a complete downgrade. Never change a running system...)
[14:15] <hyphenex> I'm having problems with Kubuntu.  I've installed it in a virtual machine, then when it boots, I get a spinny thing, then X crashes.  running startx from a terminal gives me "AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable"
[14:15] <seriekrock> if i have static ip, i shouldnt mark dhcp in firestarer, right?
[14:16] <Saied> origaman: you can get source of feisty packages and rebuild and repackage them, dont downgrade
[14:16] <kblin> hi folks
[14:16] <Angelus> where can i get KDE headers from?
[14:16] <seriekrock> yo
[14:16] <origaman> Saied: Are there any instructions how to do that (e.g. in the wiki)?
[14:17] <stdin> Angelus: install "kde-devel"
[14:17] <Saied> hyphenex: use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and set driver to that is suitable for you
[14:17] <Angelus> OK stdin :p i new it
[14:17] <hyphenex> Saied: hmm.  Maybe there is another parallels configuration I can try before I have to start getting technical if it's a drivers issue
[14:19] <bignall> Hi.  I'm trying to update from Feisty to Gutsy, but the updater keeps showing the following messages:
[14:19] <bignall> Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/source/Sources.gz 302 Found
[14:19] <bignall> Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/non-free/source/Sources.gz 302 Found
[14:19] <bignall> What can I do to fix the problem?
[14:19] <Saied> Angelus: use packages with -dev extensions
[14:21] <kblin> so, what's going to bow up in my face if I upgrade to gutsy? :)
[14:22] <Saied> origaman: instructions to what?
[14:22] <Saied> hyphenex: i dont think, reconfigure it and rerun gdm using /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[14:24] <origaman> Saied: instructions to getting, rebuilding and repackaging source packages from fiesty for gutsy.
[14:24] <hyphenex> Saied: reconfigure it with what exactly?
[14:25] <Saied> origaman: download source packages with apt-get source -t feisty <packagename>
[14:26] <Saied> origaman: go to its direcotry and change dependencies in debian/control file and repackage it with fakeroot debian/rules binary , package will be created in ..
[14:27] <buz> !d3lphin
[14:27] <ubotu> dolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[14:28] <BrightEyes`> i cant configure my web cam using the new amsn.i get into Account>Preferences>Others>Audio & Video Settings and in the drop down list i can see my webcam but it cant be selected.what can i do?
[14:30] <hyphenex> Garrrgh, I've given up
[14:31] <NLguyNL> hello?
[14:32] <NLguyNL> who speak english?
[14:32] <slaider> hola
[14:32] <NLguyNL> hi
[14:33] <hyphenex> Does anybody have Kubuntu running under Parallels
[14:34] <origaman> Saied: ... yes?
[14:34] <h3sp4wn> !tell hyphenex about anyone
[14:35] <ubuntu_> ohana!
[14:36] <jonasb> hi all, i just upgraded to gutsy, and since kopete crashes with msn i tried pidgin out.  but the sound isn't working in pidgin.  any hints?
[14:37] <bignall> Can anyone help me.  What do I do about these errors when upgrading to gutsy:
[14:37] <bignall> Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/source/Sources.gz 302 Found
[14:37] <bignall> Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/non-free/source/Sources.gz 302 Found
[14:37] <stdin> remove the unofficial repos for now
[14:37] <ubuntu_> anyone else have promise "fasttrack" raid
[14:38] <darkox> i have installed firefox (terminam). how I can launch it? there it usually istall?
[14:38] <bignall> Ahh... okay, I'll try that.  thanks.
[14:39] <filosofico> Hello to all. I have a big problem. I have a notebook HP nx6110 with kubuntu7.10: when I close the lid the screen correctly turn OFF but when I reopen it the screen remains turned ON only few second and then turn OFF again. If I move the mouse he relights but turn OFF again then. To resolve the problem I must restart.
[14:39] <filosofico> UPDATE: The system communicates that the screen is still still closed when instead it has been open. Is it a bug? Is it possible to understand with which system manage the closing of the screen? Is it possible to resolve to hand the problem?
[14:43] <hyphenex> I can't get kubuntu to boot in Parallels desktop.  I just get a blank boot screen looking thing (with the loaded on the right hand side)
[14:45] <sam1337> When I try to rename my volume group with "sudo vgrename Debian vg0" I get the message " Volume group "Debian" still has active LVs" how do I get around this?
[14:45] <code_man65> Hey, anyone in here good with Cedega problems?
[14:45] <sam1337> code_man65 what's the problem?
[14:45] <code_man65> Cannot install fonts on Kubuntu 7.10 x86_64
[14:46] <code_man65> Give me a moment and I'll paste the error from the log file
[14:46] <Daisuke_Ido> that's something you should contact cedega about
[14:47] <sam1337> Dosen't cedega offer technical support?
[14:47] <Daisuke_Ido> although their fork of wine is woefully behind the mainline version now
[14:47] <code_man65> I'm in their channel, no one appears to be awake
[14:48] <tekteen> anyone know where the install program is on the live cd?
[14:48] <sam1337> lol
[14:48] <Kanuha> need help setting up wireless. already enabled restricted drivers and firmware, and installed ndiswrapper with inf files, but I cannot see my network
[14:48] <tekteen> what comes up
[14:48] <sam1337> tekteen is there not an install icon as a desktop icon?
[14:49] <tekteen> no
[14:49] <tekteen> that is created during boot
[14:49] <tekteen> sam1337: The user and desktop is created during boot
[14:50] <sam1337> reboot the live cd then?
[14:50] <tekteen> ???
[14:50] <tekteen> I am not brite
[14:50] <tekteen> lol
[14:50] <tekteen> ty
[14:51] <sam1337> When I try to rename my volume group with "sudo vgrename Debian vg0" I get the message " Volume group "Debian" still has active LVs" how do I get around this?
[14:51] <pablo-viva> Hi all
[14:51] <sam1337> Heya!
[14:51] <h3sp4wn> sam1337: Is / on the lvm ?
[14:52] <Lido> who is doing scouting?
[14:52] <sam1337> h3sp4wn: yes
[14:52] <h3sp4wn> sam1337: use something like grml to rename it then
[14:52] <pablo-viva> I have an issue with Kopete on Kubuntu Gutsy Gibbon and I wanted to check if it was only me or it was a bug on Kubuntu or Kopete 3.5.8
[14:52] <sam1337> h3sp4wn: grml?
[14:53] <sam1337> h3sp4wn: Is it easy to use?
[14:53] <h3sp4wn> !grml
[14:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grml - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:53] <nicolai_> !ask | pablo-viva
[14:53] <ubotu> pablo-viva: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[14:54] <stdin> pablo-viva: using MSN ?
[14:54] <h3sp4wn> sam1337: well you boot it and then do /etc/init.d/lvm2 start
[14:54] <pablo-viva> yeah using MSN stdin
[14:54] <hyphenex> I can't get my Kubuntu live CD to start.  X fails to start (I'm running through a VM)
[14:54] <stdin> pablo-viva: see http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3041
[14:54] <pablo-viva> I tried with Yahoo Messenger and it works
[14:54] <h3sp4wn> sam1337: then you can rename it - http://www.grml.org
[14:54] <pablo-viva> thanks I will look at that
[14:54] <sam1337> h3sp4wn: then a simple "vgrename Debian vg0" would do the trick?
[14:55] <h3sp4wn> sam1337: Yes
[14:55] <sam1337> h3sp4wn: ok thanks for your help.
[14:55] <h3sp4wn> sam1337: With the root being on it there is no other way I can think of (usually you could drop to single user mode and do it)
[14:56] <pablo-viva> stdin thanks, do you happen to know if this is a patch i must install on top of kopete or should I remove my actual kopete and install this .deb instaead
[14:56] <stdin> pablo-viva: just install the package, you don't have to remove anything
[14:56] <pablo-viva> ok thanks stdin
[14:57] <ashfaq> Installed Kubuntu gutsy as dual boot, can't find my ntfs drives, how do I access and make them read/write
[14:58] <stdin> !ntfs
[14:58] <ubotu> ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[14:58] <hyphenex> I can't get my Kubuntu live CD to start.  X fails to start (I'm running through a VM)
[15:00] <h3sp4wn> hyphenex: Use the alternative and do a server install
[15:00] <h3sp4wn> hyphenex: Install X latert
[15:01] <stdin> the alternate cd installs a desktop system, no need to install X after
[15:01] <lido01> heey
[15:01] <h3sp4wn> stdin: But comes polutted with tons of garbage
[15:02] <h3sp4wn> polluted*
[15:02] <stdin> h3sp4wn: the alternate cd installs exactly the same system as the desktop cd
[15:02] <poison--> mornin guys
[15:02] <h3sp4wn> stdin: but you can select a cli install from the menu
[15:02] <code_man65> Thanks for the ia32 thing
[15:02] <code_man65> They weren't installed by default
[15:02] <h3sp4wn> stdin: which is what I am suggesting
[15:02] <hyphenex> ahh, I should have just downloaded that one then!
[15:03] <Rosanne> heeyz
[15:06] <QwertyM> what's the repository am supposed to add for the Opera browser?
[15:09] <kaminix> What should I start a script with in order to make sure the user has root priviligies?
[15:09] <feierfox> hello
[15:09] <srcnix> Hi all
[15:09] <feierfox> need a check-sum of kubuntu 7.10 desktop i386
[15:09] <feierfox> md5
[15:09] <stdin> !md5sum
[15:09] <ubotu> To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[15:10] <srcnix> I was wondering if someone can help me. I am using Kubuntu 7.10 and trying to access my removable storage. When I access it, it shows no files. On my Windows box it does. Any thoughts?
[15:10] <srcnix> The error I get is: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options
[15:10] <feierfox> thanks! d2334dbba7313e9abc8c7c072d2af09c
[15:11] <stdin> QwertyM: "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner"
[15:11] <QwertyM> stdin: thank you, found it in the default sources.list and uncommented it :)
[15:11] <feierfox> ah!
[15:11] <feierfox> Kubuntu isnt listed there! :O
[15:11] <feierfox> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[15:11] <feierfox> no kubuntu :(
[15:12] <nicolai_> feierfox: http://ls.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/gutsy/MD5SUMS
[15:12] <stdin> feierfox: from where you got the ISO, look at the "MD5SUMS" file
[15:12] <feierfox> ah
[15:12] <feierfox> ok
[15:12] <flake> i have a ntfs drive with older copy of xp on it and a bunch of stuff I want to save, can i make it writeable and back stuff up to it from other harddrives
[15:12] <feierfox> i had it from torrent
[15:13] <stdin> kaminix: something like 'if [ "$(id -u)" -ne "0" ]; then echo "you aren't root"; fi'
[15:14] <feierfox> !dkgp
[15:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dkgp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:14] <feierfox> !dkpg
[15:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dkpg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:14] <feierfox> hmmm
[15:14] <kaminix> stdin: Will "sudo echo 'You are now root ;)'" work? :p
[15:14] <feierfox> how to "force" pakets to install?
[15:15] <stdin> kaminix: why would you need that? just run the script with sudo
[15:15] <kaminix> stdin: But I might forget to run it with sudo sometimes, and that's no good. :)
[15:16] <stdin> kaminix: then you make it say "run me with sudo"
[15:17] <kaminix> Hmm... good idea.
[15:20] <LiL-JoN> how come everytime i start up i have to reload my superkaramba themes?
[15:20] <Hamra> finally i got my hard disk partitioned the way i like it. i didnt like those ntfsresize commands or parted, partition magic from power quest is still my favorite application for the job, and the most trusted!
[15:20] <waylandbill__> !dpkg | feierfox
[15:20] <ubotu> feierfox: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[15:21] <waylandbill__> (that's what you meant to get from ubotu I'm sure)
[15:21] <Pupeno> How can I check if my mic is working?
[15:21] <LiL-JoN> waylandbill__: can you help me?
[15:21] <feierfox> with your voice, Pupeno
[15:22] <Pupeno> feierfox: he-he-he.
[15:22] <srcnix> Got it working ;)
[15:22] <srcnix> How does one play MP3's from Amarok thought ;)
[15:23] <Pupeno> !mp3 | srcnix
[15:23] <ubotu> srcnix: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:23] <Angelus> did someone fix the boot up splash bug yet ??
[15:23] <martoya> srcnix: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[15:23] <Pupeno> really, is there some vumeter to see if I'm getting any audio or not?
[15:23] <LiL-JoN> what was the bug Angelus
[15:24] <martoya> srcnix: but first you need activate the multiverse repo
[15:24] <srcnix> Thanks guys, will have a look at the link :)
[15:24] <Thonolan> rehi
[15:24] <n1lo> hi sirs
[15:24] <Angelus> LiL-JoN: the monitor turns off instead of bootup splash, on all resolutions (i tried about 5different settings)
[15:24] <kaminix> Will I see cool stuff when installing KDE 4 Beta 3 or will it still be all broken like Beta 2 was?
[15:24] <LiL-JoN> thats for like a laptop? Angelus
[15:24] <Thonolan> my update from 7.04 to 7.10 broke
[15:25] <Angelus> no its not a laptop LiL-JoN
[15:25] <Thonolan> now icant use adept
[15:25] <LiL-JoN> Angelus: oh
[15:25] <Thonolan> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/9681
[15:26] <sebastian^> hmmm strange Thonolan
[15:26] <Thonolan> if u use sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:26] <Thonolan> no hope to fix that ?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> anyone running the new ATI prprietary 8.41 driver on Gutsy 64bit ?
[15:27] <sebastian^> yes me BluesKaj
[15:27] <kapahtuh> hallao everybody,can anyone help me install games on kubuntu?
[15:28] <LiL-JoN> how come everytime i start up i have to reload my superkaramba themes?
[15:28] <BluesKaj> sebastian^, are you also running google earth  ?
[15:28] <sebastian^> Thonolan: there's always hope, but for the moment i don't know how to fix this :-/
[15:28] <sebastian^> no sorry BluesKaj, are there any problems with ge?
[15:28] <Artimus> Has anyone been able to fix the Gutsy KDM theme?  When I boot, first it draws the login box, then a second later, it draws the nice pretty "Kubuntu" borders around it.  I don't care for the user list at all, but if it has to be there, it could at least render properly.
[15:28] <Thonolan> sebastian^: ok
[15:29] <BluesKaj> sebastian^, well I'm running the default gutsy driver (8.37 I think) but GE doesn't launch altho fgl_glxgears , 3D and DRI are all ok
[15:30] <wpk> After upgrading do 7.10, brightness keys (fn-f7/f8) on my laptop (hp pavilion dv6150) stopped working. Brightness control through control panel works well tho
[15:30] <kapahtuh> how to upgrade to 7.10?
[15:30] <LiL-JoN> can somebody help me superkaramba? Everytime i start reboot i have to reload all of my superkaramba themes and that ticks me off cause i have alot of them.
[15:31] <sebastian^> kapahtuh: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade
[15:31] <LiL-JoN> kapahtuh: this isnt a search box
[15:31] <kapahtuh> danke schon )
[15:31] <sebastian^> hmm ok BluesKaj
[15:31] <sebastian^> kapahtuh: ;)
[15:32] <RytmenPinnen> are there any recommended unofficial repos with stuff like flash and stuff?
[15:32] <LiL-JoN> i think i'm going to reinstall 7.10 since i think i customized it a little to much
[15:33] <Angelus> what did you do to it LiL-JoN?
[15:34] <LiL-JoN> Angelus: i made it the way i liked it and now nothing really works right
[15:34] <naegling23> hey, im having an issue, I have the old version of adept (from edgy) and because of this, I cant upgrade to gutsy...how can I get the newer adept?
[15:34] <LiL-JoN> Angelus: my firefox crashes when i want to watch mpeg video
[15:34] <Hamra> i connect internet to this computer by LAN from a WinXP PC, and i enabled disconnecting by other computers, is there a way to disconnect from kubuntu?
[15:34] <Angelus> :O
[15:34] <LiL-JoN> Angelus: compiz doesn't work well its really choppy
[15:34] <Angelus> hmm
[15:35] <Angelus> compiz-fusion works fine here LiL-JoNl
[15:35] <Angelus> :p
[15:35] <LiL-JoN> Angelus: well it worked great in the begining
[15:35] <Angelus> and, have you tried to use konqueror to view those movies instead of firefox?
[15:35] <BluesKaj> naegling23, you can't upgrade from edgy to gutsy without breaking apps ...upgrade to feisty first then to gutsy
[15:35] <miir> luu
[15:35] <LiL-JoN> Angelus: yes but i dont like konqueror
[15:36]  * feierfox will leave now
[15:36] <feierfox> booting the 7.10 live-cd
[15:36] <miir> Goodluck
[15:36] <LiL-JoN> Angelus: i think reinstall is best
[15:36] <naegling23> buleskaj, i am running feisty though, for some reason adept-manager (version 2.1) looks the same as the one under edgy, and not the way its supposed to look under feisty
[15:37] <Azzco> naegling23: What do you mean by that?
[15:37] <kaminix> Why do I need kde4base-dev in order to run kde4 b3?
[15:37] <ImpaledOnRebar> how can I split tarball archives like rar?
[15:37] <miir> Am I the only one having problems with broadcom wireless adapter , USB-disk detection and kopete ?
[15:37] <LiL-JoN> Angelus: when im back do you want to help me get up and running with the stuff i should install
[15:37] <LiL-JoN> Angelus: it would be kool :]
[15:37] <naegling23> azzco, when I open manage repositories, I get the old way of handling them, and that means I cant check off the upgrade distro part
[15:38] <Azzco> naegling23: You might need to install software-properties-kde
[15:38] <dhq> does kbluetooth support handsfree
[15:39] <naegling23> azzco, thats it, thanks for the help
[15:39] <Azzco> NP naegling23: Someone helped me with that some days ago aswell ;)
[15:40] <naegling23> azzco, thats weird, i dont know how that got missed in the last upgrade, oh well
[15:40] <ONeill|chill> Hello, i've got a question. i hope someone can help me. i want to install ubuntu. currently i booted the live version and if i click on the install button on the desktop. the programm loads a few seconds and then quit. what could be wrong?
[15:41] <Angelus> the gutsy dvd image is finally out!
[15:41] <wpk> ONeill|chill: are you sure you have correct (as in correctly downloaded/not scratched) CD?
[15:41] <Angelus> im gonna download it!
[15:41] <ONeill|chill> yes
[15:42] <ONeill|chill> i got an error on syslog
[15:42] <ONeill|chill> Oct 20 14:41:00 ubuntu kernel: [  563.231922] SQUASHFS error: zlib_inflate returned unexpected result 0xfffffffd, srclength 65536, avail_in 0, avail_out 0
[15:42] <ONeill|chill> Oct 20 14:41:00 ubuntu kernel: [  563.231931] SQUASHFS error: sb_bread failed reading block 0x49a06
[15:42] <ONeill|chill> Oct 20 14:41:00 ubuntu kernel: [  563.231941] SQUASHFS error: Unable to read page, block 1267ae86, size 6c8e
[15:42] <ONeill|chill> sorry for the 3 line paste
[15:42] <dhq> ONeill|chill, !pastebin
[15:42] <dhq> !pastebin ONeill|chill
[15:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin oneill - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:42] <dhq> !pastebin
[15:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:42] <ONeill|chill> k
[15:42] <ONeill|chill> sorry, next time
[15:43] <Azzco> Could someone help me, My booting is extremly slow and complains about no resume image or something...
[15:43] <kaminix> Why is my computer using 495MB swap?
[15:44] <TimS> I cannot login to my samba share from another PC, it asks for a username and password but none of the accounts I have assinged to it work
[15:44] <Azzco> kaminix: What did you set it to? 512?
[15:44] <ONeill|chill> what could that be? maybe memory broken?
[15:44] <osh_> Hmm, my vmware-server stopped working after upgrade to gutsy. Probably kernel modules mismatch. Anyone got a solution?
[15:46] <kaminix> Azzco: No, I have 996MB swap. But having 485MB used is worrying.
[15:46] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> How do I register my nickname?
[15:46] <frank__> Can I get gutsy support here?
[15:46] <dhq> well anyone here who uses bluetooth
[15:47] <kaminix> Azzco: Also having 381MB RAM used is... well... not sure actually.
[15:47] <stdin> !register | AT0M1CB0MB3R
[15:47] <ubotu> AT0M1CB0MB3R: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[15:47] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Thanks stdin!! :]
[15:49] <flats> Noob question, when I install a program via apt-get or synaptic where does the actual executable go?  For instance If I run kvirc2 it opens but if I want to make a shortcut, where would I find it?
[15:49] <osh_> Hmm, how do I install things that I probably have in my apt-cache?
[15:49] <waylandbill__> flats: /usr/bin
[15:49] <stdin> flats: most go in /usr/bin
[15:50] <flats> why thank you
[15:50] <Tatewaki> hmm
[15:51] <Tatewaki> it's true for apt-get but the bin can also be located other places
[15:51] <AT0M1CB0MB3R>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[15:51] <Tatewaki> like my crossoveroffice bin is in /opt/cxoffice/bin
[15:51] <stdin> AT0M1CB0MB3R: always use the server tab ;)
[15:52] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> stdin: lol sorry
[15:52] <waylandbill__> flats: you can use dpkg -c to view the contents of a package. Example is that dpkg -c /var/cache/apt/archives/adept-manager_2.1.3ubuntu17_i386.deb  tells me that it has /usr/bin/adept-manager inside it.
[15:52] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> stdin: I didn't know i pressed space bar. :[
[15:52] <stdin> waylandbill__, flats: "dpkg -L Package" is easier
[15:52] <Tatewaki> AT0M1CB0MB3R, just be warrend i ahve done that trick with my password for my nickname hehe :)
[15:52] <stdin> AT0M1CB0MB3R: at least it wasn't your password
[15:53] <waylandbill__> Tatewaki: debian packages have to follow a certain standard and one is that executables belong in /usr/bin.
[15:53] <Tatewaki> waylandbill__, true, but cxoffice is not a package in the ubuntu reprosite
[15:54] <Tatewaki> it's however a deb package i used
[15:54] <stdin> he asked about apt-get/synaptic, so we gave the answer for that
[15:54] <Tatewaki> yeah i know i also said that :)
 it's true for apt-get
[15:55] <waylandbill__> Tatewaki: I could build a source package and put it anywhere with a configure switch, so technically they can be anywhere. I agree. I think the question was originally referring to official binary packages though.
[15:55] <dhq> which would be the best repos mirror where all updates are present
[15:55] <Tatewaki> true waylandbill__
[15:55] <flats> Wow I upgraded and everything actually works.....Someone pinch me...
[15:55] <stdin> dhq: the main one, but that can be slow sometimes (as all other mirrors sync from it)
[15:55]  * Tatewaki pinch flats
[15:55] <flats> OUCH
[15:56] <flats> yep It's true
[15:56] <Tatewaki> hmm no fun then
[15:56] <dhq> stdin, well i deleted my repos searching for new ones could you link me
[15:56] <flats> OK neone familiar with the 915resolution program?
[15:56] <Tatewaki> i always get bored when my system works perfekt
[15:56] <flats> Thats actually how I feel right now
[15:57] <stdin> dhq: the main repo is http://archive.ubuntu.com
[15:57] <stdin> !source-o-matic
[15:57] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[15:57] <waylandbill> gives more time for actually using the system for something even more fun. :)
[15:57] <dhq> stdin, thanks
[15:57] <Kr4t05> Well...
[15:57] <Tatewaki> i just don't really know what that should be waylandbill :)
[15:57] <Kr4t05> The upgrade tool isn't working for me... :/
[15:57] <dhq> stdin, you use bluetooth
[15:58] <stdin> nope
[15:58] <Kr4t05> It gets to the point where it installs new packages and the it closes out.
[15:58] <Tatewaki> debugging and finding new ways of using the system is a lot of fun for me
[15:58] <Kr4t05> No errors or anything.
[15:58] <flats> I'm sitting here trying to figure out what I can do with the system.  Any good network troubleshooting tools?
[15:59] <Tatewaki> wireshark
[15:59] <flats> I have that
[15:59] <Tatewaki> play with hping3
[15:59] <flats> hey anyone running KDE 4.0?
[15:59] <flats> the beta
[15:59] <Tatewaki> nope not yet
[15:59] <flats> I can't get that to install
[15:59] <waylandbill> Tatewaki: maybe you need to learn system development then,
[15:59] <Tatewaki> i should try to play with that
[15:59] <kaminix> I'm installing the KDE 4 Beta atm. ^^ flats
[15:59] <stdin> flats: helps if you say why toy can't install it
[16:00] <bentob0x> anybody can tell me how to enable compiz on 7.10 please?
[16:00] <stdin> s/toy/you/
[16:00] <flats> I'm a linux noob.  I'm not up on compiling packages.
[16:00] <stdin> !compiz | bentob0x
[16:00] <ubotu> bentob0x: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[16:00] <Tatewaki> waylandbill, i play with some bash scripting right now so it's not that i can't do anything but play with my system, i just find it to be more funny
[16:00] <stdin> flats: there are packages, see the topic
[16:01] <Jucato> wb stdin! I missed you for about 24 hours :)
[16:01] <flats> wow thanks stdin
[16:01] <flats> on my way
[16:01] <stdin> Jucato: I had router problems, seems to have sorted itself tho :p
[16:01] <Jucato> good
[16:01] <Kr4t05> I'm trying to upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy, using the instructions linked to from the topic, and the upgrade works fine up until the point when it tries to install the new packages. Then, it quits. No errors, or anything. Should I just go into Adept and upgrade that way?
[16:01] <Tatewaki> compiling your own packages is nice but it can be a hell keeping track of
[16:01] <Jucato> flats: I would really recommend that you don't play with the KDE 4 packages yet....
[16:02] <bentob0x> thx for the help stdin
[16:02] <Jucato> flats: unless you're really super curious and prepared not to be amazed
[16:02] <Jucato> (a.k.a. a wee bit disappointed)
[16:02] <kaminix> Could anyone help me with this Scim/Skim/Anthy problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3579679&postcount=22
[16:03] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: did you try amarok 2 yet ? (How stable is it)
[16:03] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: it's.. um.. usable, if you don't mind not seeing what you're playing :)
[16:03] <Jucato> I like the new look though.. it's unique, new, and refreshing... :)
[16:04] <Tatewaki> i have a hard time believing that they can make amarok anymore nice then its
[16:04] <Kr4t05> Well... Being ignored really does help me figure out my problem. :/
[16:04] <installationrl> !codecs
[16:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[16:04] <kaminix> !xim
[16:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:04] <h3sp4wn> Tatewaki: Yeah but its alot easier to build kde4 on solaris than 3.5.8
[16:05] <installationrl> what problem Kr4t05?
[16:05] <Tatewaki> wired h3sp4wn
[16:05] <lexa> привет
[16:05] <Mr_Grieves> I'm trying to upgrade a feisty install to gutsy over ssh...is there a CLI way to do this?
[16:05] <Tatewaki> the normal way Mr_Grieves
[16:05] <lexa> у кого-нибудь возникает проблема с погасание экрана при загрузке 7,10
[16:05] <h3sp4wn> Mr_Grieves: use aptitude
[16:05] <Tatewaki> nothing is changed just because it's over ssh
[16:05] <QwertyM> !russian | lexa
[16:05] <ubotu> lexa: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[16:05] <installationrl> ps: use screen.
[16:06] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> lexa: Wow wrong channel buddy
[16:06] <Tatewaki> you just need to use the commandline
[16:06] <Kr4t05> installationrl: I'm trying to upgrade Feisty to Gutsy, and the upgrade tool seems to crash whenever it gets to the step where it installs the new packages.
[16:06] <kaminix> !skim
[16:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:06] <kaminix> !scim
[16:06] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[16:06] <osh_> What does a "c" mean when I do an "aptitude search foo"
[16:06] <kaminix> !xim
[16:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:06] <osh_> It shows as "c foo"
[16:06] <Mr_Grieves> Ok. I'll get to reading some man pages. Everything I've seen says to use Adept in the gui. Thanks :)
[16:06] <installationrl> Kr4t05: what's it output to console?
[16:06] <Jucato> osh_: it mean it has been uninstalled, but not purged (config files in /etc still remain)
[16:07] <Kr4t05> installationrl: I'm not sure how to run the upgrade tool via console
[16:07] <lovre> hi al
[16:07] <osh_> Jucato: Thanks. I did look in apt and aptitude man-files but didn't see anything about it there.
[16:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> sudo apt-get upgrade?
[16:07] <osh_> Jucato: Just to show that I'm not the lazy bastard I appear to be. ;-)
[16:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Kr4t05: sudo apt-get upgrade?
[16:07] <Kr4t05> installationrl: I can start up adept, but when I click "Version Upgrade" adept closes out and starts up the upgrader.
[16:08] <installationrl> Kr4t05: That's funny, I don't really know how people do it using a gooey. :)
[16:08] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: hey it's LiL-JoN.
[16:08] <Kr4t05> AT0M1CB0MB3R: I've been told that it's easy to break things with apt-get?
[16:08] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: yo
[16:08] <Kr4t05> I used to upgrade with APT in previous releases, but I wanted to see how much better the GUI upgrade would go.
[16:08] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Kr4t05: not really never broke for me and you can always fix them
[16:08] <jesse__> hello; I just upgraded to gutsy and now my KDE windows are not repainting (and are thus unusable). anyone have debugging suggestions?
[16:09] <installationrl> well you need to be producing details of a problem before you know what's gone wrong :)
[16:09] <installationrl> but you knew that :D
[16:09]  * osh_ is a little annoyed that gutsy broke vmware. I need vmware for work on monday. :-/
[16:09] <mauri_> i'm not able to upgrading kubuntu to version 7.10
[16:09] <flats> Hmm I don't seem to have a kde4 directory under /usr/lib
[16:09] <osh_> It's my only windows. :-(
[16:09] <installationrl> feisty broke vmware too, tbf.
[16:09] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: can you help me? with everytime i start up with super karamba i have to reload all of my themes (and thats alot lol)
[16:09] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: not really an SK guy...
[16:09] <Kr4t05> osh_: You probably need to recompile your VMware drivers? That happens with any kernel upgrade.
[16:10] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: ok
[16:10] <h3sp4wn> osh_: which version of vmware ?
[16:10] <Kr4t05> s/drivers/modules
[16:10] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: should i just reinstall im on the live cd right now
[16:10] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: but you will most probably have to put a link to each SK theme in ~/.kde/Autostart
[16:10] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: um.. why reinstall? just for superkaramba?
[16:10] <installationrl> pfft, it's not as if they would build on feisty w/o intervention.
[16:10] <osh_> Kr4t05: Yeah. Except that I removed it to reinstall it (as per a suggestion on ubuntu-forums) and now I can't get it back. :-/
[16:10] <flats> how do I find a file?  I need to find startkde
[16:10] <osh_> h3sp4wn: vmware server
[16:11] <osh_> flats: locate file
[16:11] <installationrl> locate filename
[16:11] <Kr4t05> osh_: You ever try VirtualBox?
[16:11] <mweichert> hi! I have a ubuntu installation but want to try KDE. In synaptic, I see there is a metapackage called 'kde' at version 5:xx. Isn't the latest kde version only at 4?
[16:11] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: not just for super karamba a bunch of stuff i customized my kubuntu too much and now nothing works right
[16:11] <osh_> Kr4t05: nope. what is it?
[16:11] <installationrl> virtualbox lacks stuff
[16:11] <Kr4t05> osh_: If you have the option, you could try that.
[16:11] <installationrl> for instance, its USB support sucks.
[16:11] <QwertyM> Jucato: Thanks for that KDM resolution fix on UF by the way .. just encountered it. :)
[16:11] <Kr4t05> installationrl: Newer versions fix that.
[16:11] <h3sp4wn> osh_: I am using workstation its working fine here
[16:11] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: after this install i don't think im going to mess with it any more besides get it the way i like it to look then im done
[16:11] <h3sp4wn> osh_: (custom 2.6.23 kernel)
[16:12] <Jucato> QwertyM: np
[16:12] <Kr4t05> installationrl: I heard a review for the latest version on the Linux Action Show
[16:12] <h3sp4wn> !info vmware-package
[16:12] <ubotu> Package vmware-package does not exist in gutsy
[16:12] <installationrl> Kr4t05: Forgive me if I remain skeptical on that one til I see it working :)
[16:12] <installationrl> I will give it a spin though when I get time
[16:12] <h3sp4wn> osh_: If you I would build debian's vmware package (makes deb's for all vmware stuff)
[16:12] <Kr4t05> installationrl: Of course. :)
[16:12] <flats> how do I "start a new session in KDM with KDE 4."
[16:12] <osh_> Problem is that I have a vmware image with windows and all work-related programs on it, so unless virtualbox plays vmware images I relly need vmware.
[16:13] <h3sp4wn> osh_: Then if it does stop working you can use vmware-any-any easily
[16:13] <flats> you can get the vmware player if you already have the vmx file
[16:13] <jesse__> mweichert: just install the kubuntu-desktop package; the '5' is a kubuntu-specific version number
[16:13] <Jucato> flats: the instructions are on the release announcement page
[16:13] <mauri_> i'm not able to upgrading kubuntu to version 7.10
[16:13] <osh_> wwhat's the diff between the server and the player then?
[16:13] <kaminix> When I try to enter "enter support for complex characters" in KDEs language/regional settings it is not checked when I press OK and look again.
[16:13] <mweichert> jesse_ hmm, okay - though I'm very interested in trying kde 4
[16:13] <flats> jucato:  I did all that, the last line is start a new session in KDM with KDE 4.
[16:14] <flats> How do I start a new kde session?  restart my computer?
[16:14] <osh_> flats: ctrl-alt-backspace
[16:14] <osh_> flats: kills X.
[16:14] <khumba-yo> mauri_ : what happened?
[16:14]  * flats is scared
[16:14] <flats> afriad nothing will come back
[16:15] <Thonolan> is there any option to downgrade my adept frm 7.10 back to my 7.04?
[16:15] <Jucato> flats: that's why I didn't recommend that you be so daring to try out KDE 4 *beta* 3
[16:15] <flats> OK here goes.  brb ...I Hope......
[16:15] <mauri_> khumba-yo: adept-manager say me that a new 7.10 kubuntu version is available
[16:15] <Jucato> flats: don't worry though, the way Kubuntu made the packages, nothing should break
[16:15] <flats> hehe but then where's the fun
[16:15] <Jucato> flats: just logout
[16:15] <mauri_> khumba-yo: i clicked yes but
[16:15] <Thonolan> my upgrade break ...
[16:15] <osh_> I tried to download the old vmware-server deb but it doesn't install the dependancies.
[16:15] <lovre> i was trying to upgrade to 7.10, and i updated from adept manager. but i didnt get any wizards, and i dont know if i upgraded or not. How do i check?
[16:15] <mauri_> khumba-yo: after same minutes it says:Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release Unable to find expected entry  commercial/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[16:15] <Thonolan> now adept or apt-get wont work
[16:15] <jesse__> mweichert : not sure if you have to kave kubuntu-desktop in order to try kde4.  kubuntu.org has instructions on trying kde4 which may or may not require kubuntu-desktop
[16:16] <jesse__> khumba-yo : they renamed the commercial repository to 'partner'
[16:16] <mweichert> jesse_ any idea what the release date is for kde4?
[16:16] <lovre> i was trying to upgrade to 7.10, and i updated from adept manager. but i didnt get any wizards, and i dont know if i upgraded or not. How do i check?
[16:16] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - is your /etc/apt/sources.list modified to gutsy instead of feisty?
[16:16] <jesse__> mweichert : Real Soon Now. maybe for 8.04?
[16:17] <Jucato> lovre: did you follow the instructions step by step?
[16:17] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> so Jucatodo you think i should reinstall whats your opinion im on the format page and i dont know if i should do it
[16:17] <Jucato> lovre: and don't repeat your question every minute
[16:17] <flats> well still KDE 3.5.8
[16:17] <lovre> Jucato: ok, sorry, and yes i did
[16:17] <osh_> mweichert: december. don't remember the exact date.
[16:17] <installationrl> I'm still not using upgrades for OSes that aren't Debian
[16:17] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: not really sure if you should. not knowing what state your system is in
[16:17] <installationrl> and I mean straight, plain debian
[16:17] <mauri_> khumba-yo: i dont know
[16:17] <flats> hmmmm
[16:17] <boubbin> my kaffeine aint playing divx in gutsy, how come ?
[16:17] <Chousuke> hm
[16:18] <Jucato> flats: you will have to choose the KDE 4 from the Session menu in the login screen
[16:18] <flats> oh darn, thanks jucato
[16:18] <installationrl> I've never found in-place upgrades worth the hassle in any other os.
[16:18] <Chousuke> My irssi had somehow gotten stuck in the backlog at yesterday 22:00
[16:18] <flats> brb  again
[16:18] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: its not that bad but i really dont know how to fix any thing
[16:18] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - then u should check it out or even change it - then upgrade your system in the console... ;)
[16:18] <Chousuke> took me three minutes to scroll it to the present :P
[16:18] <armadillo> salve, c'e' in linea qualche italiano?
[16:18] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: but this week im getting a bash command handbook
[16:18] <Jucato> !it | armadillo
[16:18] <ubotu> armadillo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[16:19] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - just replace all "feisty" with "gutsy" in sources.list
[16:19] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: good luck :)
[16:19] <installationrl> AT0M1CB0MB3R: have you considered getting the interweb? :)
[16:19] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: if you really want to learn, I'd suggest you try to learn how to fix what's broken first
[16:19] <mauri_> khumba-yo: sorry, i dont remember where to find souce list file
[16:19] <lovre> Jucato: ok, now im getting an error
[16:19] <osh_> mauri_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:19] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: so i shouldn't reinstall?
[16:19] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - ^^
[16:20] <mauri_> osh_: thanks i've just find it
[16:20] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: my opinion. yes. learn first before reinstall... unless you want the easy way out :)
[16:20] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: i think your right im gonna restart and try to fix my comp
[16:20] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - dont forget to sudo ... ;)
[16:20] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> brb
[16:20] <osh_> Hmm, no vmware server and no vmware player in gutsy. :-(
[16:20] <mauri_> khumba-yo: they are already gutsy
[16:21] <LjL> osh_: oh, that's true. well there is virtualbox though
[16:21] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - good, then you can log off from your gui and log in on the console, lets say ctrl-alt-F2
[16:22] <Jucato> LjL: has the problem w/ virtualbox been fixed though?
[16:22] <khumba-yo> .. then sudo apt-get update
[16:22] <Jucato> I mean in the repos
[16:22] <LjL> Jucato: which problem?
[16:22] <khumba-yo> ..then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:22] <Jucato> LjL: it needs kernel modules
[16:22] <flats> well KDE4 is runningbut no icons or programs
[16:22] <Jucato> which wasn't packaged earlier
[16:22] <flats> anyone else have that problem?
[16:22] <Jucato> flats: like I said, it's not exactly something for a newbie to get into
[16:22] <LjL> Jucato: ah, i haven't tried, but i thought they'd get that set up for final. i do distinctly recall getting new modules from apt... let me see
[16:23] <Jucato> flats: and not everyone is trying to run a *BETA* release
[16:23] <LjL> Jucato: it should be fine
[16:23] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - this should work quite good but it lasts maybe 1 or 2 hours...
[16:23] <flats> Oh I thought it was somewhat complete.  Beta usually means it's ready except for bugs
[16:23] <Jucato> LjL: ah yes I see the packages now :)
[16:23] <flats> this is nowhere close
[16:23] <Jucato> flats: not really. you should read the release announcements first :)
[16:23] <Jucato> flats: right-click on the desktop -> Log Out
[16:23] <ToHellWithGA> is there a theme for kde similar to metacity's "human" theme?
[16:24] <ToHellWithGA> i'm kinda partial to the brown colors
[16:24] <Jucato> flats: you can actually also right-click on the desktop -> Run command
[16:24] <Jucato> then run an app
[16:24] <flats> thats how I got konversation open
[16:24] <osh_> LjL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3577870 That one sais that downloading -> installing should pick up dependancies, but it won't. not for me.
[16:24] <flats> so there's still a  ways to go with KDE4 then, I thought it was usable, my bad
[16:25] <Artimus> ToHellWithGA: http://www.openwarriors.iblog.co.za/2007/10/07/ubuntu-human-kde-colour-scheme/
[16:25] <ToHellWithGA> cheers
[16:25] <LjL> osh_, i suspect the canonical gutsy repositories aren't currently in very good order.
[16:25] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> hey Jucato :]
[16:25] <jesse__> is medibuntu still useful to have in /etc/apt/sources.list.d?
[16:25] <Jucato> flats: it is a bit, but you only most probably installed only the very base apps, and also it's not end-user usable yet
[16:25] <Jucato> yo AT0M1CB0MB3R
[16:26] <drama1981> anybody having major display probs radeon xpress 200 on gutsy? top and bottome title bars take up my WHOLE screen.
[16:26] <boubbin> !kde4
[16:26] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[16:26] <osh_> LjL: I should probably report a bug on launchpad.net...
[16:26] <Jucato> flats: read up: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0-beta3.php
[16:26] <LjL> osh_: probably. do check out virtualbox in the meanwhile, perhaps it works well enough for you.
[16:27] <osh_> LjL: But it won't play vmware images, right? So my MS-Office, MS-Project and all that is gone until vmware starts working for me again?
[16:27] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: I'm going to try to fix all of my problems. Hopefully it won't be that hard. So to start how about the ~./kde/autostart? Where do I put that?
[16:27] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - still there?
[16:27] <LjL> osh_: no, it won't, though i can't exclude there are converters...
[16:27] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: it's ~/.kde/Autostart/ it's already there.
[16:28] <Jucato> !autostart | AT0M1CB0MB3R
[16:28] <ubotu> AT0M1CB0MB3R: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[16:28] <mauri_> khumba-yo: yes....LjL suggested me to remove canonical line into source file
[16:28] <mauri_> khumba-yo: it now works
[16:28] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - 8D
[16:28] <drama1981> also get vga not support h48 v89 on boot. my screen goes black until the login screen but its so huge i cant see anything i just have to type my name and pass (cant see the box though)
[16:29] <h3sp4wn> jesse__: they won't switch to kde4 for an lts release
[16:29] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: do i have to install "kcontrol-autostart" cause i just alt f2'ed it and it didn't work
[16:29] <mauri_> khumba-yo: thanks again also tu you
[16:29] <jeroenvrp>  is it default that k/ubuntu does not allow X from localhost?
[16:29] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: if you want to. you can always just manually add things to the ~/.kde/Autostart folder
[16:30] <osh_> LjL: I'll just see if I can get vmware fixed. Worst case I'll just have to downgrade back to feisty and use that.
[16:30] <khumba-yo> mauri_ - np, ur welcome *lol*
[16:30] <flats> jucato: thanks for the help.
[16:30] <bentob0x> !ati
[16:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[16:30] <jeroenvrp> so you have to a xhost +localhost first
[16:30] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: ok :]
[16:30] <flats> brb
[16:30] <jeroenvrp> and how to make xhost +localhost permanant?!
[16:30] <jesse__> do intel i810 video cards use a restricted driver?
[16:31] <kaminix> Well then, KDE 4 Beta 3. Tell me what cool stuff I can do. :D
[16:31] <h3sp4wn> jeroenvrp: don't use xhost
[16:31] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdeutils/superkaramba/questionsanswersandtips.html#id2546132
[16:31] <installationrl> Has any update fixed failure to detect some 8 series nvidia cards?
[16:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: i can't find kde autostart
[16:31] <jeroenvrp> h3sp4wn: what should I use instead?
[16:31] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> thanks Jucato
[16:31] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: in Konqueror, type the location ~/.kde/Autostart
[16:32] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: ~ is shorthand for your home directory (/home/username)
[16:32] <h3sp4wn> jeroenvrp: su user_running_x -c "xauth extract - $DISPLAY" | xauth merge -
[16:32] <ctw> Hi! I just upraded to Gutsy on my HP Pvilion dv1000 laptop and I am having some trouble with the graphics (integrated intel centrino chipset). Ever since the upgrade the graphics seem to be extremly slow and I can't get my desktop extended to my external screen with xinerama anymore. Any ideas?
[16:32] <Jucato> AT0M1CB0MB3R: .kde is a hidden folder in your home directory
[16:32]  * installationrl (is in the process of moving terabytes of data, so barely has enough bandwidth for irc let alone updates)
[16:33] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Jucato: how do i enable session support in kcontrol
[16:33] <jeroenvrp> h3sp4wn:
[16:33] <jeroenvrp> xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/jeroen/.Xauthority
[16:33] <jeroenvrp> xauth: (argv):1:  unable to read any entries from file "(stdin)"