[00:17] <elijah_> Can anyone help me with a Citrix Reciever issue?
[00:56] <tetris4life> When I am trying to debug a program, what is the best way to go about this?
[00:56] <tetris4life> What should I look for in an strace output?
[03:03] <OerHeks> this bug applies to kubuntu too, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2140873
[03:03] <OerHeks> still no satisfiing solution, i do not trust this, so do no banking untill it get fixed
[03:04] <OerHeks> 2 hours off after boot, BIOS is oke, checking and checking...
[03:05] <OerHeks> there is no logical reason to set time -2 hours back, so i think i am compromized. and not only me.
[04:18] <SparkySparkyBoom> hi there
[04:18] <SparkySparkyBoom> how do i change my window manager temporarily?
[04:18] <SparkySparkyBoom> on ubuntu, i can just choose at the login screen
[04:19] <shadeslayer> which one do you want to use ?
[04:20] <shadeslayer> and why would you want to replace kwin ?
[04:22] <SparkySparkyBoom> i want to use awesome-wm
[04:22] <SparkySparkyBoom> for a bit
[04:22] <SparkySparkyBoom> while im working
[04:24] <SparkySparkyBoom> any ideas?
[04:24] <shadeslayer> probably worth looking at the man page
[04:24] <SparkySparkyBoom> i tried
[04:24] <SparkySparkyBoom> didnt find anything
[04:24] <SparkySparkyBoom> i cant believe it's this hard
[04:24] <shadeslayer> you should be able to pass something like --replace
[04:25] <SparkySparkyBoom> i found kde to be way easier than gnome and unity
[05:03] <Kalidarn> hmm seems qtconfig does not work in raring ringtail
[05:04] <Kalidarn> i installed qt4-qtconfig
[05:04] <Kalidarn> only to get: bash: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qtchooser: No such file or directory
[05:04] <Kalidarn> i also noticed qt-creator seems to be some default gtK+ looking theme, not oxygen.
[05:06] <Kalidarn> i wonder if it's related to bug 1175662
[05:06] <Kalidarn> qtchooser gives the same error
[05:07] <valorie> might be a good idea to comment on the bug then?
[05:08] <Kalidarn> yeah i just want to see if it effects anyone else
[05:08] <Kalidarn> anyone else on 13.04 able to use qtconfig?
[05:08] <Kalidarn> or qtchooser
[05:09] <valorie> tbh, I think most of the devels who could reply to you are asleep atm
[05:09] <shadeslayer> or in bed, trying to sleep, but cannot sleep due to the insane heat
[05:10] <valorie> hey shadeslayer
[05:10] <shadeslayer> I don't think qtchooser is meant to be executed per se , so have a look at the man page
[05:10]  * valorie directs a cooling breeze in your direction
[05:10] <shadeslayer> its like 36 flipping degrees
[05:11] <shadeslayer> and there's an ongoing powercut
[05:11] <valorie> damn
[05:15] <Kalidarn> shadeslayer: i noticed qt creator in raring looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/VgbVEUd.png http://i.imgur.com/kX0FPoW.png
[05:15] <Kalidarn> that is not oxygen :P, i installed this fresh from raring media
[05:16] <shadeslayer> heh, possibly using Qt 5 libs ?
[05:16] <Kalidarn> yeah it is
[05:16] <Kalidarn> and im trying to change the theme for that, figured qt4-config or qtchooser was the way
[05:16] <shadeslayer> check pmap of qtcreatoe
[05:16] <shadeslayer> ah nope
[05:17] <shadeslayer> Kalidarn: needs an env var to switch to qt4
[05:17] <shadeslayer> man page should have this documented
[05:20] <Kalidarn> yeah and none of them work: you get the same error
[05:20] <Kalidarn> $ qtchooser -qt=qt4
[05:20] <Kalidarn> qtchooser: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qtchooser': No such file or directory
[05:20] <Kalidarn> $ qtchooser -qt=qt5
[05:20] <Kalidarn> qtchooser: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qtchooser': No such file or directory
[05:20] <Kalidarn> $ qtchooser -qt=default
[05:20] <Kalidarn> qtchooser: could not exec '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qtchooser': No such file or directory
[05:20] <FloodBotK1> Kalidarn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:21] <Kalidarn> it's almost as if the qt4-config package is putting the binary in the wrong place
[05:22] <Kalidarn> *qt4-qtconfig
[05:23] <Kalidarn> because if you do qtchooser -print-env you see:
[05:23] <Kalidarn> QTTOOLDIR="/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin"
[05:26] <Kalidarn> shadeslayer: maybe it is this bug 1176686
[05:26] <shadeslayer> maybe
[05:27] <shadeslayer> I don't know enough to comment I am afraid
[05:28] <Kalidarn> i'd say so, because if you use: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qtconfig it works
[05:28] <Kalidarn> qtconfig doesn't obviously exist for qt5
[05:29] <shadeslayer> ah
[05:30] <Kalidarn> shadeslayer: and i don't think it's possible yet to use oxygen with qt5
[05:30] <Kalidarn> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14880032/native-kde-look-for-qt-5-app
[05:30] <shadeslayer> yeah, not possible to use oxygen with Qt 5
[05:31] <shadeslayer> you will have to wait till frameworks 5
[05:32] <Kalidarn> yeah :)
[06:02] <sickle_cell> i am a kubuntu user from last 6 months i am having a serious problem with OVERHEATING my laptop is Linovo Z570 4GB ram /i5-2nd Gen/2gb Nvidia Geforce/ 750gb Hard Disk
[06:06] <valorie> sickle_cell: what is pushing your computer so hard?
[06:07] <valorie> have you tried using 'top' or 'htop' from the cli to find out
[06:07] <valorie> ?
[06:07] <valorie> or even the system monitor from alt+f2 (krunner)
[06:18] <sickle_cell> let me see
[06:20] <sickle_cell> nepomuk controller 23% / nepomuk servicestub 21%  and rest is less then 3%
[06:21] <sickle_cell> should i kill the Process ?
[06:25] <valorie> sure
[06:25] <valorie> probably just indexing
[06:25] <valorie> there is a way to control nepomuk
[06:26] <sickle_cell> sir , what is it
[06:26] <valorie> if you type nepomuk into krunner (alt+f2)
[06:26] <valorie> there is a config you can access
[06:27] <sickle_cell> yes
[06:30] <sickle_cell> sir , i set its priority to lowest . is it ok . meanwile my laptop is cooling down .
[06:30] <valorie> good!
[06:30]  * valorie is no sir
[06:30] <valorie> lol
[06:31] <valorie> sure, I think lowering the priority is better than turning it off, personally
[06:31] <valorie> so you still get the indexing
[06:34] <sickle_cell> valorie:  Thank's Man for helping . may god bless you
[06:34] <valorie> you're very welcome, although I'm not a man either!
[06:34] <valorie> :-)
[06:35] <sickle_cell> *mam :-)
[06:37] <valorie> lol
[06:38] <valorie> I hope kubuntu continues to work well for you
[06:38] <valorie> I love it, and have been using it for many years
[06:43] <sickle_cell> mam , what is  "  'top', 'htop' from the cli  " ?
[06:44] <valorie> ha
[06:44] <valorie> sorry: cli is short for commandline interface
[06:44] <valorie> in other words, a console
[06:44] <sickle_cell> ok
[06:44] <sickle_cell> i got it
[06:44] <valorie> top and htop are two cli applications for seeing what is running, how much memory is being used, etc.
[06:45] <valorie> top is standard, htop must be installed
[06:45] <sickle_cell> :-)
[06:45] <valorie> also, they will give you the "pid" which you often need to kill a process
[06:46] <valorie> although I haven't had to do that for a long while
[06:46] <valorie> kubuntu is well put together
[06:48] <sickle_cell> ok, yaa i learned about " pid" in my lecture. is it process Id.
[06:48] <valorie> yup
[06:48] <valorie> it's fun to look 'behind the scenes'
[06:49] <valorie> and the pretty gui
[06:49] <bigbrovar> hi guys, does kde have something close to the gnome character map which allows u insert unicode characters or symbols. I need it to insert my county's currency symbol to a report am writting
[06:49] <valorie> character selector
[06:49] <valorie> alt+f2
[06:49] <sickle_cell> yaa , i just install htop . it is interesting
[06:54] <valorie> bigbrovar: ^^
[07:00] <bigbrovar> valorie: thanks :)
[07:18] <fractaline> does adblock normally slow down rekonq severly?
[07:20] <fractaline> or cause some issues with downloads?
[07:41] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:58] <bigbrovar> as much as I love to use and continue with kmail, its just not ready for enterprise
[09:59] <bigbrovar> I have no choice now but to use thunderbird even though it lacks the kde integration
[10:56] <fractaline> anyone have any luck with mtp devices? i've read that kio-mtp works and also that it's pretty sketchy
[11:28] <fractaline> so i switched my phone to mass storage mode but there is one zip file that i still can't move. permissions seem right. not sure what next??
[11:30] <fractaline> i'm trying to move the zip from the pc to the phone.  other zips have moved fine
[11:35] <frogonwheels> fractaline: size?
[11:39] <fractaline> 160 mb
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:42] <fractaline> good evening BluesKaj
[11:42] <goodtime> hats up
[11:43] <BluesKaj> "Morning fractaline
[11:44] <kdef> sound in firefox just disappeared.... constant problems after upgrading to 13.04....
[11:48] <BluesKaj> but sound sourced from the pc works , right kdef ?
[11:48] <kdef> yep
[11:49] <kdef> the strange thing is it works in chromium.... I'm using a headset to output it for now... but, it just quit in firefox last night...
[11:49] <BluesKaj> web audio isn't working , sounds like a pulseaudio problem
[11:50] <BluesKaj> laptop?
[11:50] <kdef> desktop
[11:51] <kdef> why can't you reinstall software in muon?
[11:52] <BluesKaj> kdef,  tes you can , reinstall flashplugin
[11:52] <BluesKaj> yes
[11:53] <kdef> can't... it's greyed out!
[11:53] <kdef> how can it be a flash plugin problem if it's only firefox where I don't have sound?
[11:54] <BluesKaj> flash uses flv files , your other audio files don't use flash
[11:55] <BluesKaj> ok sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin installer  , in the terminal
[11:57] <BluesKaj> correction : sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer  , in the terminal
[11:58] <kdef> no change and I made the correction
[12:00] <BluesKaj> ok type pulseaudio in the terminal, kdef
[12:01] <kdef> E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
[12:01] <kdef> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[12:02] <BluesKaj> kdef , ok , install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:02] <kdef> that's installed already... re-install?
[12:06] <BluesKaj> kdef , open krunner , /usr/lib/mozilla , open the plugins folder to see of the flashplayer alternative is there
[12:10] <BluesKaj> kdef, open krunner with alt+F2
[12:21] <Graf_Westerholt> Linux froze again.
[12:44] <fractaline> i just had most but not all of the data disapear from my internal storage on my phone while trying to copy some files to it from the pc
[12:46] <fractaline> that kinda freaks me out      0_o
[12:50] <fractaline> BluesKaj, i just had a lot of random folders disappear from my phone while trying to copy files.   they are not in the trash they are just gone???
[12:51] <fractaline> what could have happened?
[12:52] <BluesKaj> fractaline, don't know , not a smartphone user
[12:53] <BluesKaj> not enough room for the old filies , so they were replaced by the ones copying over
[12:53] <BluesKaj> ?
[12:53] <fractaline> no i couldn't copy them
[12:57] <fractaline> it was acting up in mtp mode so i put it in mass storage mode then it copied a few files and folders and then i got an error on one.  i tried again to copy the file no go.
[13:02] <fractaline> tried to copy from phone to pc a different file and it worked. tried a another zip file from the phone's microSD to the internal storage and got the error again.  i could copy jpeg but not zip. at least not the 160mb zip
[13:05] <fractaline> so i installed kio-mtp and tried mtp again and i got access denied. not an error just at the bottom of the dolphin window
[13:06] <fractaline> i mounted and unmounted a couple times and then a seemingly random bunch of folders we gone
[13:06] <BluesKaj> install mtp-tools ?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> or mpt-tools rather
[13:07] <fractaline> no
[13:08] <BluesKaj> too many shortforms meanibg almostr the same things become confusing after a while
[13:09] <BluesKaj> anyway  mtp-tools is supposed to help your settings
[13:11] <Cartoons> hello. im getting this error http://pastebin.com/xrDMTfwJ
[13:11] <Cartoons> doesnt matter what app i use to try and read dvds
[13:12] <fractaline> i've never had that kind madness connecting my phone to pc....      :(
[13:12] <Cartoons> fractaline, MTP device?
[13:13] <BluesKaj> !mtp
[13:13] <BluesKaj> the factoid bot is beoming mostly useless lately
[13:13] <smartboyhw_> lol
[13:13] <BluesKaj> becoming
[13:14] <fractaline> Cartoons, yes
[13:14] <fractaline> but i also used mass storage mode
[13:14] <BluesKaj> media transfer protocl
[13:14] <Cartoons> fractaline well good luck with that, MTP support in linux is crap
[13:14] <fractaline> although i think the damage was done in mtp mode
[13:15] <Cartoons> fractaline likely your phone will not work in mass storage, what OS version is it?
[13:15] <fractaline> android 4.2.2
[13:15] <Cartoons> frac, likely the damage was done switching between them, the point of MTP is that apps can not access the SD card while in mass storage but can in MTP
[13:16] <Cartoons> ah yea 4.x does NOT like mass storage mode at all and technicly you should not have the abaility to use it
[13:17] <Cartoons> google android 4 mtp mass storage, that mind the info i found 6mo ago or go ask in #android
[13:22] <fractaline> of course i did not switch while connected but yes it must have been somehow between the two.  and yes i'm running modified firmware on the phone which comes with risk
[13:23] <Cartoons> yea dont use mass storage on newer androids. exactly what is messed up for you?
[13:23] <fractaline> some folders disappeared from my internal storage
[13:23] <fractaline> poof
[13:24] <fractaline> ;)
[13:24] <fractaline> seemingly random ones
[13:24] <fractaline> but not DCIM that was handy
[13:26] <Cartoons> ouchy. time to reset to factory or reflash
[13:26] <fractaline> oh and now i can't mount properly,
[13:26] <Cartoons> ah reflash from your nandroid backup
[13:28] <Cartoons> ttl
[13:28] <fractaline> no they were on the /storage,   so nothing drastic
[13:35] <kdef> anyone know how to fix firefox sound problems?
[13:35] <kdef> since firefox went to 21, it's been a major failure... do ppl at mozilla not care?
[13:36] <kdef> I found my problem also occurs in windows if you can believe it
[13:36] <yossarianuk> kdef:  no such issues here - I use firefox as sole browser (work+play) (in kubuntu) is it a html issue/flash/what ?
[13:37] <kdef> but, what version?!?
[13:37] <kdef> wish I knew...
[13:37] <yossarianuk> 21.0
[13:37] <kdef> but, this 100% describes my problem...
[13:37] <kdef> http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/958548
[13:38] <kdef> was trying to google anything that was similar... just stumbled on it... but, it's the same for me... firefox sound doesn't work flash video works.... google chome both video and sound works
[13:38] <yossarianuk> does it work in chrome/konqueror, etc ?
[13:38] <kdef> vlc - sound works... so, it's just sound when using firefox (flash videos) ... for e.g. youtube
[13:39] <yossarianuk> so its a flash issue
[13:39] <yossarianuk> I have never had good flash in 32bit linux
[13:39] <yossarianuk> 64bit is fine
[13:39] <kdef> I am using 64-bit
[13:39] <yossarianuk> what version of flash?
[13:39] <kdef> i meant the symptoms are the same... they are using windows 32 bit but I think it's not OS-specific or even 32 vs 64
[13:39] <yossarianuk> does it work in Chrome/konquerror
[13:39] <BluesKaj> kdef, did you check /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins for the flashplayer ?
[13:40] <yossarianuk> have you checked your volume settings ?
[13:40] <kdef> what do u mean, what ver. of flash?  11.2?
[13:40] <yossarianuk> i would do this
[13:40] <kdef> I'm using the latest flash player
[13:40] <yossarianuk> (this will remove all flash cookies
[13:40] <yossarianuk> rm -rf ~/.macomedia  ~/.adobe
[13:40] <kdef> Blue, can you tell me how?
[13:41] <yossarianuk> then restart firefox
[13:41] <kdef> vol is fine as other sounds work, remember?
[13:41] <yossarianuk> try my previous commmand and restart firefox
[13:41] <BluesKaj> kdef, alt+F2 ,  /usr/lib/mozilla/ , then open the plugins folder
[13:42] <yossarianuk> Do you see flash plugin in
[13:42] <yossarianuk> about:plugins
[13:42] <yossarianuk> i.e put this in the firefox address bar
[13:42] <yossarianuk> about:plugins
[13:42] <yossarianuk> you should see
[13:42] <BluesKaj> it may not show
[13:42] <kdef> Blue, I'm looking at the plugins now
[13:42] <yossarianuk> Shockwave Flash -     File: libflashplayer.so -     Version: 11,2,202,285     State: Enabled     Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
[13:43] <kdef> Blue, what should be there?   6 plugins are there
[13:44] <BluesKaj> kdef, where ...in /usr/lib/mozilla or about:plugins?
[13:44] <kdef>     File: libflashplayer.so   Version: 11,2,202,285    State: Enabled  Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
[13:44] <kdef> looks ok, yoss
[13:45] <yossarianuk> ok try clearing out your flash dirs then restarting firefox
[13:45] <yossarianuk> i.e
[13:45] <kdef> Blue, ?
[13:45] <yossarianuk> 1 shitdown firefox
[13:45] <yossarianuk> (killall firefox)
[13:45] <yossarianuk> *shutdown*
[13:45] <BluesKaj> kdef , read my post above
[13:45] <kdef> delete the plugins from that folder?
[13:45] <yossarianuk> no
[13:45] <BluesKaj> no
[13:45] <BluesKaj> just want to see what's there
[13:46] <yossarianuk> to clear out your flash temp files
[13:46] <yossarianuk> rm -rf ~/.macomedia  ~/.adobe
[13:46] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, hang on a sec
[13:46] <yossarianuk> okie
[13:46] <kdef> the 6 plugins are in the folder /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[13:47] <BluesKaj> 6 plgins ..you only need one , flashplayer-alternative.so
[13:47] <kdef> I have that one
[13:48] <kdef> one is a java plugin, one is a google talk plugin but yes, everything looks okay....  this is frustrating!
[13:48] <BluesKaj> yes , then delete all the other flash plugins
[13:48] <BluesKaj> leave the java stuff alone
[13:49] <BluesKaj> looks ok what are the others besides google , and java
[13:49] <BluesKaj> ?
[13:50] <kdef> the others are related to google talk except for one
[13:50] <BluesKaj> looks doesn't cut it kdef , we need to know what else is there
[13:51] <kdef> nsdejevu.so
[13:51] <BluesKaj> which one ?
[13:53] <BluesKaj> kdef, is nsdejevu the correct spelling ?
[13:53] <kdef> oops, nsdejavu.so
[13:54] <kdef> it's for djview images?
[13:55] <kdef> djvu, I mean
[13:56] <BluesKaj> yeah , so do you actaually have the the flashplayer-alternative.so file , kdef ?
[13:56] <kdef> Blue, yep
[13:57] <kdef> I'm lost... everything looks right so :-(
[13:57] <BluesKaj> so FF isn't using that plugin like it should
[13:57] <kdef> right
[13:57] <BluesKaj> , ok now yossarianuk .lets hear your view on this
[13:58] <kdef> I don't want to delete anything without knowing why or what I'm doing
[13:58] <yossarianuk> all I am suggesting is deleting your temp flash settings/caache
[13:58] <yossarianuk> then restarting firefox
[13:58] <yossarianuk> i.e
[13:58] <yossarianuk>  rm -rf ~/.macomedia  ~/.adobe
[13:59] <yossarianuk> you could always backup the folders...
[13:59] <kdef> I can copy that into CLI?    rm -rf ~/.macomedia  ~/.adobe
[13:59] <yossarianuk> mv ~/.macomedia /.macomedia.flash.sucks
[13:59] <BluesKaj> because I'm stumped , I'm running FF21 as well ,but I don't have any issues except in about:plugins I also have something new , but it's the HTML5 switch I think
[13:59] <yossarianuk> mv  ~/.adobe
[13:59] <yossarianuk> sorry
[14:00] <yossarianuk> mv   ~/.adobe  ~/.adobe.flash.sucks
[14:00] <yossarianuk> its worth a go - that's what I would do
[14:00] <BluesKaj> macromedia
[14:00] <yossarianuk> what URL is it your having issues with ?
[14:01] <yossarianuk> if you delete the temp/cache files and it still doesn't work does it work in google chrome?
[14:03] <kdef> i don't know how to delete the temp cache fiels
[14:04] <yossarianuk>  rm -rf ~/.macomedia  ~/.adobe
[14:04] <yossarianuk> sorry
[14:04] <ovidiu-florin_> Hello World :D
[14:04] <yossarianuk>  rm -rf ~/.macromedia  ~/.adobe
[14:05] <kdef> I did that but no change
[14:06] <yossarianuk> ok did you do it then restart apache
[14:06] <yossarianuk> firefox
[14:06] <yossarianuk> (not apache - also note the latest line - I had made a mistake  previously)
[14:07] <yossarianuk> m -rf ~/.macromedia  ~/.adobe
[14:07] <yossarianuk> rm -rf ~/.macromedia  ~/.adobe
[14:08] <yossarianuk> if it still doesn;t work - does it in chrome ?
[14:08] <yossarianuk> also what is the URL?
[14:14] <kdef> I just want to find the hidden files... but, it's impossible in Dolphin... maybe I'll install another distro....
[14:14] <yossarianuk> which hidden files
[14:14] <yossarianuk> what URL are you having issues with
[14:14] <kdef> ANY
[14:14] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, yes he said chrome flash works
[14:15] <kdef> ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/Cache  ???   whatever it is
[14:15] <BluesKaj> kdef, open dolphin ,>edit> show hidden files
[14:15] <ovidiu-florin> Success!!! I am finnaly back online :D:D:D
[14:15] <yossarianuk> to view hidden files
[14:15] <yossarianuk> click 'control' -> show hidden files
[14:16] <yossarianuk> or press Atl+ .
[14:16] <lordievader> kdef: In dolphin go to View -> Show hidden files
[14:16] <BluesKaj> oops view rather
[14:16] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: What was your problem?
[14:16] <yossarianuk> *its 'control' in kubuntu 13.04
[14:17] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, ?
[14:17] <lordievader> yossarianuk: Not for me, got the 'window menubar' widget in my task bar ;)
[14:18] <yossarianuk> BluesKaj: I mean there is no 'vierw' menu
[14:18] <yossarianuk> 'view'
[14:18] <BluesKaj> I have
[14:18] <yossarianuk> there is a 'control' one
[14:18] <BluesKaj> "view"
[14:19] <yossarianuk> are you running 13.04 ? and did you fresh install ?
[14:19] <kdef> it's in my home... ugh...  sorry
[14:19] <BluesKaj> yoss you haven't enabled ther menubar in dolphin
[14:19] <kdef> what a mess...  folders everywhere...  no wonder so many problems with flash ... so fsdfasdf inefficient!
[14:20] <kdef> yes, 13.04
[14:20] <yossarianuk> well blame adobe for that mess.
[14:20] <kdef> it's an upgrade... everything was working fine until this
[14:20] <kdef> yes, I hate adobe.. wish someone would kill it
[14:20] <kdef> why hasn't html5 not taken off?
[14:21] <BluesKaj> kdef, I upgraded as well ,and I don't have that problem yours seems unique
[14:21] <yossarianuk> flash is fine now...
[14:21] <kdef> Blue, didn't you read that page?
[14:21] <yossarianuk> that was a random person using 32bit WinXO
[14:21] <yossarianuk> XP
[14:21] <kdef> i bet other linux ppl will have that problem if not already... you just haven't come across any others yet
[14:22] <yossarianuk> what URL are you having problems with
[14:22] <yossarianuk> ?
[14:22] <kdef> what are you talking about?
[14:22] <yossarianuk> Why don;t you see if other ppl here have the issue ?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> the powers that be , who write the webpages still use "whatworks" in most cases and are afraid to write in HTML5
[14:23] <kdef> 'what url?!?'  I already said, I have no sound in firefox... any youtube video etc.  no sound!
[14:23] <yossarianuk> have you tried the adobe flashplugin in another browser - to work out if its the browser or plugin @ fault.
[14:23] <yossarianuk> kdef: sorry
[14:23] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, it works in chromium
[14:23] <BluesKaj> for him
[14:23] <kdef> chromium works so it's a firefox problem, I think
[14:23] <yossarianuk> ok - sorry I didn;t realise ' chromium'
[14:23] <kdef> well, firefox + (adobe) flash sound = problem - for me
[14:24] <yossarianuk> I know he said it worked in chrome but thats a different version of flash
[14:24] <yossarianuk> 11.7 instead of 11.2
[14:24] <lordievader> HTML5 isn't officially released yet/
[14:24] <lordievader> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5#Plan_2014
[14:24] <yossarianuk> only google chrome has latest version of flash on linux....
[14:24] <kdef> yoss, that's true... good point
[14:25] <yossarianuk> isn;t there a HTML5 version of youtube though ?
[14:25] <kdef> I think it could be firefox 21 but you guys have it working in 21...  geez :(
[14:25] <yossarianuk> in which case I suggest you trying with a clean firefox profile.
[14:25] <BluesKaj> I drpped chrome ...not integrating it's tab fonts for large screens
[14:25] <yossarianuk> or temp moving your old one
[14:26] <yossarianuk> chrome is crap at copying and pasting text also...
[14:26] <goekhan> hello, in dolphin, how can i make places panel icon only?
[14:26] <goekhan> there is no right-click option for this
[14:29] <goekhan> oh, i just realized how to do this: go hardcore and edit each entry
[14:29] <goekhan> remove the label
[14:31] <jdoles> test
[14:35] <kdef_> works in safe mode but very quiet... have to turn mixer way up....  this is sad
[14:35] <kdef_> i might look at what other distros are good to install ... tired fo kde and kubuntu and all the bugs that come with it
[14:36] <kdef> Quassel just disappeared so I thought it crashed... now a 2nd re-appeared... what a joke this distro is... sorry
[14:39] <kdef_> Blue, still there?   koss?
[14:39] <kdef_> sound returned... lol .... so f.... up
[14:40] <kdef_> it's buggy...  the sound goes really low and then all of a sudden comes back... this is REALLY annoying if you're using headphones!
[14:41] <kdef> don't know what i did.... just went to safe mode for firefox
[14:41] <kdef> and restarted
[14:44] <BluesKaj> kdef, have you rebooted since and have you updated/upgraded and dist-upgraded at all ?
[14:44] <BluesKaj> since your OS upgrade
[14:51] <kdef_> rebooted
[14:51] <kdef_> I run the muon updater... so, it's all up to date
[14:52] <kdef_> I'm at:  3.8.4-030804-generic
[14:52] <BluesKaj> ok now check youtube in FF
[14:54] <kdef_> I have sound, I said... but, it's very low... mixer is at 50% or half... I need it at 80 to get something I can hear
[14:56] <npdp2> \j freenode
[14:57] <BluesKaj> kdef_, open alsamixer and crank the vol ctrls
[15:16] <imgx64> I installed kubuntu-active to try Plasma Active, but now KDE Plasma Workspace gives me a black screen when I log in. What can I do?
[15:27] <Basil1x> Is there a way to add programme icons to the bar beside the rekonq icon?  I use other programmes I'd rather have there.
[15:29] <oye> imgx64: check Ctrl+Alt+Backspace.
[15:29] <Basil1x> Ooh!  Nevermind.  I've found it myself.
[15:30] <smartboyhw_> Heh, not yet at my agenda item on Mumble?
[15:32] <smartboyhw_> Oops wrong chan:P
[15:32] <smartboyhw_> Sorry guys
[15:57] <ace__> I just installed Kubuntu 13.04 on my laptop. My wireless is running real slow. It has a Realtek RTL8187SE wireless lan controller. I searched but cannot find anything helpful. Can someone help me to get this working?
[16:48] <kesten> hello
[16:48] <kesten> I've been having kernel panics since upgrading to 13.04.
[16:49] <kesten> is this a know issue?  inteli5 quad core (2010) with an ati HD5470 graphics card
[16:49] <BluesKaj> kesten, during boot ?
[16:49] <kesten> no, during normal operation
[16:50] <kesten> sometimes i catch a glimpse of "kernel panic" messages during boot up, presumably from the previous failure.
[16:54] <BluesKaj> kesten, and you've run the normal updates and upgrades since ?
[16:56] <kesten> i upgraded to saucy.  It seems a little better.  Only one crash since that, 12 hrs ago.
[16:57] <kesten> just did a apt-get update
[16:58] <BluesKaj> run a dist-upgrade as well
[16:59] <kesten> ok.  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[16:59] <BluesKaj> yes
[16:59] <kesten> thanx.  i'll get back to you.
[16:59] <BluesKaj> kesten, and technically 13.10 support is in the #ubuntu+1 chan
[16:59] <kesten> ah, thanks.  my #ubuntu didn't work any more.
[17:00] <BluesKaj> which irc client are you using?
[17:01] <kesten> konversation
[17:02] <BluesKaj> just add #ubuntu in the serverlist>edit>add channel setting
[17:03] <BluesKaj> but you can join by typing  /join ubuntu in the server text
[17:04] <kesten> ok thanks.
[17:04] <BluesKaj> ok gotta go for a while...BBL
[19:02] <sil> terminator
[20:39] <Infester> Any recommendations for tools/software that would help make my kubuntu more productive
[20:39] <cp_> define "productive"
[20:40] <Infester> Fair enough. I'm looking for software that helps manage programs, files, to help you in finding things quickly, working on multiple projects at once
[20:40] <Infester> i've configured dual desktops, virtual machine for the software I do need windows for
[20:40] <Infester> but I am wondering if there are some other useful things that I haven't heard of before
[20:50] <lordievader> Infester: Muon is the default package manager in Kubuntu.
[20:55] <cp_> hmm
[20:56] <cp_> Infester:  as lordievader said, Muon is the software manager default in Kubuntu, I however would recommend instead a coupling of it with Synaptic
[20:56] <cp_> I use both, but I must say Synaptic does much better categorizing and searching/indexing
[20:56] <lordievader> Or the apt suite :)
[21:00] <Infester> thanks I'll check those out
[21:02] <lordievader> For completeness sake: apt is comandline stuff. Many GUI package managers use apt as their back-end.
[23:07] <tom_> dd
[23:07] <tom_> Kai ???