[18:42] <xpress> vafied_: i try to install madwifi couse mi network is working terible :P
[18:42] <xpress> vafied_: but i have a problem ^^
[18:42] <xpress> vafied_: so can u help me with that ?
[18:43] <anurag> using internet and command apt-get install
[18:43] <vafied_> xpress: sorry mate i don't know about madwifi
[18:43] <xpress> vafied_: ok no problem =)
[18:43] <oCean> anurag: ok, but what did you apt-get install (there are several mysql packages)
[18:43] <intangir> how can i get multiple monitors to work? im using nvidia video card
[18:43] <tsaknorris> christofer,  its that Apple FIle Connection protocol AFC (i would need to jailbrake it) plah...ok next question how i can see the files what insert to iphone?
[18:43] <lordjj> xpress, it would do you better to skip all the intros and pop a question for someone to answer
[18:44] <tsaknorris> christofer, files i have inserted to phone. how i can see them
[18:45] <xpress> lordjj: second =)
[18:45] <christofer> tsaknorris: it doesnt seem like you can access the drive directly, but if you run the command stated in the help documentation, can you access the folders it outputs?
[18:45] <Abdu> Hello everybody!
[18:45] <anurag> can any-one give remote assistance to solve my problem
[18:45] <xpress> lordjj: ioctl: No such device ... so what i do ?
[18:45] <oCean> anurag: I'm trying
[18:45] <lonix> What timezone does ubuntu relases follow ?
[18:46] <anurag> ok
[18:46] <oCean> anurag: please tell what you did to install
[18:46] <anurag> means
[18:46] <Abdu> I have installed ubuntu server 11.04 , i want to make a share disk driver to every user on my local network. Most of them have windows
[18:46] <oCean> anurag: in terminal, run  dpkg -l |grep mysql   and paste the output of that command at  http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:46] <xpress> can somebody help me with this (ioctl: No such device)
[18:47] <lordjj> xpress, I'm not familiar with mad wifi but can you describe your problem more?
[18:47] <xpress> =)
[18:47] <Abdu> my question is: How can i make H.D.D share drive to ever one of them where the quota is 3 GB max
[18:47] <vafied_> anurag: try this   mysql -uroot -p
[18:47] <xpress> lordjj , yes :P i try to put this command ( wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta )
[18:47] <anurag> actually i need mysql connectivity to gcc compiler for running mysql and handling databases using c language
[18:47] <tsaknorris> christofer, what command you want to me to run ( ihave looked that url)
[18:48] <oCean> anurag: ok, if you're not going to respond to my suggestions, I stop here
[18:48] <tsaknorris> christofer, ifuse?
[18:48] <xpress> lordjj: for creating interface
[18:48] <recon69_lap> anyone else getting firefox-bin often not unloading
[18:48] <anurag> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)
[18:48] <anurag> no sir
[18:48] <anurag> please
[18:48] <anurag> help me
[18:49] <anurag> above error comes ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (111)
[18:49] <lordjj> xpress, so what does "ifconfig" show?
[18:49] <vafied_> anurag:  you did sudo apt-get install mysql- ???????
[18:49] <jcook_5xdata> anurag, sound like mysql is not installed or running
[18:49] <vafied_> anurag: mysql what ?
[18:49] <anurag> when i am running ur given command
[18:49] <anurag> yes
[18:49] <lonix> does anyone know ?
[18:49] <anurag> i did
[18:49] <xpress> lordjj: eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  direcciónHW 88:ae:1d:84:5a:a4
[18:49] <xpress>           ACTIVO DIFUSIÓN MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Métrica:1
[18:49] <xpress>           Paquetes RX:0 errores:0 perdidos:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[18:49] <xpress>           Paquetes TX:0 errores:0 perdidos:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[18:49] <xpress>           colisiones:0 long.colaTX:1000
[18:49] <xpress>           Bytes RX:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
[18:49] <FloodBot1> xpress: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:49] <vafied_> yes but what was the complete name of that mysql ?
[18:50] <anurag> i dont know
[18:50] <vafied_> anurag:  do you have the tutorial that you used ?
[18:50] <anurag> where it is
[18:50] <recon69_lap> lordjj ; that look like a nic without a connection
[18:50] <christofer> tsaknorris: Seems like you have to use iTunnel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone#iTunnel and then use ssh to log in on the device.
[18:50] <jcook_5xdata> anurag, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart what the output
[18:51] <xpress> lordjj: well ? ^^
[18:51] <lordjj> xpress, can't say I'm sure :P
[18:51] <anurag> this is output sudo: /etc/init.d/mysql: command not found
[18:51] <mr_daniel> Upstart executes all jobs in /etc/init at boot-time. The first event emitted is 'startup'. Is there a tools which prints a semi-ordered graph to see which job starts another job? I want to understand the boot order of jobs to debug a small problem-.
[18:52] <xpress> lordjj: nothing lets take a shot .. =)
[18:52] <vafied_> anurag: if you are in the server press the up arrow key and you will find the complete comand
[18:52] <tsaknorris> christofer,  yeah i can see that, but anyway lets go to that other problem... how i can open let say mp3 file what i move to my phone?
[18:52] <xpress> lordjj: i forgot to say that i try to replase ath9k for madwifi ...
[18:53] <anurag> i don't understand u
[18:53] <lordjj> xpress, did you do wlanconfig ath create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta
[18:53] <vafied_> anurag: did you followed a tutorial to install mysql  ?
[18:53] <jcook_5xdata> anurag, i don't think you have mysql installed. sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[18:54] <kevinjeet> how do i determine which driver is responsible for a device node
[18:54] <vafied_> anurag: try as jcook_5xdata says
[18:54] <christofer> tsaknorris: you have rhytmbox?
[18:55] <recon69_lap> kevinjeet: lshw
[18:55] <GRMrGecko> h00k: The only things that upgraded was LibreOffice, ure, uno-libs3, tzdata, and libgksu2-0
[18:55] <GRMrGecko> Do you see anything that might cause a problem like that?
[18:56] <tsaknorris> christofer,  yeah i will use it...thank..
[18:56] <Marchitos> i have a little problem with kubuntu
[18:56] <Marchitos> it don't want to accept the root password
[18:56] <Marchitos> i've changed it from level 1
[18:56] <kevinjeet> recon69_lap, does this include leds and such?
[18:56] <Marchitos> konsole recognizes it
[18:56] <kevinjeet> recon69_lap, and backlights?
[18:57] <Marchitos> gui application no ( like packagekit)
[18:57] <aluchko> is there an easy way to add your own packages to your home directory?
[18:58] <recon69_lap> kevinjeet; you mean for the lights in your box ? dough it.
[18:58] <aluchko> it looks like I can do dpkg -i --force-not-root --root=$HOME package.deb, and install the packages relative to ~
[18:59] <aluchko> but it still seems like a pain to track and download the proper package, isn't there something just down download the package to my home dir? I supposed I'll need to apt-get source and rebuild it but I was hoping for an easier way
[18:59] <LytesOfDawn> Guys
[18:59] <LytesOfDawn> I need help
[18:59] <LytesOfDawn> I'm trying to install a new desktop enviroment
[19:00] <LytesOfDawn> So how do I get rid of my old one?
[19:00] <xpress> lordjj: no .. how should i do that :)
[19:00] <nyvaken> Guys, which one do you prefer. irssi or XChat?
[19:00] <LytesOfDawn> I have all the packags for the new desktop enviroment
[19:00] <crud_> hello its me crud ball
[19:00] <LytesOfDawn> so how do I get rid of my old one/
[19:00] <recon69_lap> LytesOfDawn: depends how you install, normally you just format over the old one
[19:00] <LytesOfDawn> well yeah
[19:00] <LytesOfDawn> I found all the packages
[19:00] <kevinjeet> recon69_lap, dough it? a) my laptop's screen brightness wont change... even writing to /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video*/brightness
[19:00] <Jordan_U> scorinitron: You're welcome.
[19:01] <LytesOfDawn> but I cant install them in terminal
[19:01] <LytesOfDawn> It says default = all
[19:01] <lordjj> xpress, see the Examples section on the bottom of this page: http://linux.die.net/man/8/wlanconfig
[19:01] <anurag> thank u sir its running
[19:01] <LytesOfDawn> so how do I install all at once?
[19:01] <anurag> good sir
[19:01] <oCean> nyvaken: matter of personal preference, please dont take polls
[19:01] <anurag> thank u
[19:01] <LytesOfDawn> so what do I do/
[19:01] <kevinjeet> recon69_lap, and b) the keyboard lights
[19:01] <tbruff13> hey does anyone know if ibm viavoice can be used in libreoffice
[19:01] <vafied_> anurag: for connect use mysql -uroot -p
[19:01] <xpress> lordjj: no :D w8 i did it /wlanconfig ath create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta/ but shows me that (wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device):P
[19:02] <anurag> <vafied can u give me ur email
[19:02] <GRMrGecko> how can I find logs that can help you find this issue and fix it?
[19:02] <recon69_lap> kevinjeet have you added the brightness applet to your toolbar
[19:03] <anurag> thanks vafied it really works
[19:04] <xpress> lordjj : well ?
[19:04] <kevinjeet> recon69_lap, nope, how does one do that?
[19:04] <kevinjeet> recon69_lap, im new to unity
[19:04] <lordjj> xpress, ifconfig only shows that u have eth0. Do u have a wifi device connected?
[19:05] <xpress> lordjj: no..
[19:05] <lordjj> xpress, isn't that what this's all about... wifi...
[19:06] <xpress> lordjj: i look  iwconfig and it shows that there is no eth0 neither lo
[19:06] <lordjj> xpress, it's not working because there's no "wifi0" device then
[19:06] <xpress> lordjj: so what i do ?
[19:07] <kevinjeet> recon69_lap, i also get $ xbacklight -get
[19:07] <kevinjeet> No outputs have backlight property
[19:07] <phibxr> Is there any way to monitor the sync progress in % using Ubuntu One?
[19:07] <lordjj> xpress, connect a wifi adapter to use? :P
[19:07] <auronandace> xpress: you are trying to use wifi WITHOUT a wifi card?
[19:07] <dmsuperman> How can I configure unity 2d's wall?
[19:07] <RobotBot> do we know if 11.10 will be available at midnight?
[19:07] <xpress> lordjj: i am with laptop and it has wifi :P
[19:07] <Atreus> why si there no option to change the screen brightness while on battery inpower management?
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> RobotBot: midnight depends on the timezone you're in
[19:08] <lordjj> xpress, how come its not showing in ifconfig 0o
[19:08] <madmax_> xpress: is the wifi adapter built in?
[19:08] <mr_daniel> When I boot my Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS, which component does setup my RAID1 configuration? I am curious about this, because I couldn't find a single call to 'mdadm' in the startup-scripts in /etc/init/, which are executed by Upstart. But I know that mdadm is the tool usually used to create and manage RAIDs
[19:08] <nickolas> i am having trobles with ugly plymouth using nvidia drivers
[19:08] <RobotBot> I'm in eastern MonkeyDust
[19:08] <mr_daniel> Is it maybe possible that the Kernel creates and loade the RAIDs?
[19:08] <xpress> madmax_ yes..
[19:09] <nickolas> i use jockey to install the latest drivers from x-swat
[19:09] <tbruff13>
[19:09] <nickolas> then i use a script called "fixplymouth-natty" to fix plymouth and grub screens
[19:09] <mr_daniel> I want to understand how RAIDs are setup in Linux, so I can quickly repair my system if anythin bad happens. And understand the boot-process is one port of this
[19:09] <mr_daniel> s/post/part
[19:09] <dmsuperman> How can I configure unity 2d?
[19:10] <nickolas> problem is, it eventually stops booting, hanging at the Kubuntu screen with five white dots
[19:10] <cypha> anyone using xterm?
[19:11] <madmax_> xpress: what make/model pc?
[19:11] <xpress> madmax_: packard bell
[19:11] <lordjj> xpress, what does iwconfig wlan0 give?
[19:13] <madmax_> xpress: model number?
[19:13] <jjunior> can anynone help me with nvidia proprietary and plymouth on ubuntu 11.04?
[19:15] <cypha> will this work in ubuntu? http://www.saltycrane.com/blog/2008/05/how-to-paste-in-cygwin-bash-using-ctrl/
[19:15] <libscout__> is there a way to make GRUB automatically load a selection on reboot?
[19:15] <asterfish> question. if i am running off a live cd, is it possible to eject the live cd, pop in a blank disc and burn to it?
[19:15] <kevinjeet> xbacklight says no outputs have the backlight property.... is that a driver issue
[19:15] <AlReece45> mr_daniel: Upstart needs the root filesystem mounted before it runs. If your root filesystem is managed by mdadm, the scripts to mount it will be under /usr/share/initramfs-tools (these are used to generate the initramfs that's used by your system). Otherwise, it seems to use the classic sysd format, so you should see it in /etc/rc?.d/*mdadm*
[19:15] <madmax_> asterfish: if you have loaded the whole thing into ram at boot
[19:16] <AlReece45> mr_daniel: I don't use mdadm, but it does the same thing for LVM
[19:16]  * Companion devours mcveat
[19:17] <scorinitron> I'm trying to get Tor installed and running properly but it's driving me insane
[19:17] <kevinjeet> scorinitron, ive always just used tor browser bundle
[19:18] <scorinitron> How do you get it installed
[19:18] <oCean> !tor | scorinitron
[19:18] <Surkow|laptop> hmm, guys the proper place to go for wireless issues?
[19:19] <kevinjeet> scorinitron, https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en
[19:19] <scorinitron> kevinjeet, so how would I go about trying to install it...
[19:20] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: what is your issue
[19:20] <kevinjeet> scorinitron, i just sent u a link... theres no install, just download and extract
[19:20] <scorinitron> Kevinjeet, thanks man...
[19:21] <Surkow|laptop> madmax_, since three weeks I can no longer make use of my wireless internet. Ethernet works fine. Wireless connects fine with at least four networks. In Windows and with a bootable ubuntu usb live disk internet works without hassles
[19:21] <Surkow|laptop> but I'm not planning on reinstalling my OS during exam time
[19:22] <Surkow|laptop> I properly receive an IP via dhcp
[19:22] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: are you using a network manager to connect, or the cli?
[19:22] <Surkow|laptop> but I can't ping
[19:22] <Surkow|laptop> network manager
[19:22] <Surkow|laptop> so, no network issues
[19:22] <Surkow|laptop> just a problem with network manager
[19:22] <Surkow|laptop> and no hardware issues
[19:23] <madmax_> can you ping your gateway ip?
[19:23] <Surkow|laptop> hmm
[19:23] <Surkow|laptop> I'm part of two networks
[19:23] <Surkow|laptop> how can I ping the second network?
[19:23] <Battlecat> Hello. I was wondering if there is a real advantage to using Ubuntu 64 bit version over the 32 bit version. I was just given a desktop Dell with an AMD 64 in it.
[19:24] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: can you explain more, 2 networks?
[19:24] <Surkow|laptop> a simple sweex router for ethernet
[19:24] <Surkow|laptop> connected to my own cable modem
[19:24] <Surkow|laptop> and my housemates access point
[19:25] <Surkow|laptop> he has his own cable connection
[19:25] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: so you are cabled to one, and trying to wifi to the other?
[19:25] <Surkow|laptop> yes
[19:25] <Surkow|laptop> it has worked fine since forever
[19:25] <Surkow|laptop> I can just remove the ethernet connection
[19:26] <MrTAToad> Hello!
[19:26] <Surkow|laptop> and I can still use internet normally
[19:26] <GRMrGecko>  can this error cause everything to freeze except for the work space switcher? http://pastebin.com/6NTwLEfa
[19:26] <recon69_lap> Battlecat: think the biggest consideration is memory, over 4gb and definitely go 64bit
[19:26] <dmsuperman> How can I configure unity 2d?
[19:26] <MrTAToad> How long does it take to get an application reviewed in Ubuntu One ?
[19:26] <Patriot7912> How do i make samba part of the domain?
[19:26] <Surkow|laptop> simply said madmax_ - I can connect to any wireless network, receive an IP
[19:26] <Surkow|laptop> (or maybe I'm wrong about that)
[19:27] <Surkow|laptop> and still not ping any website
[19:27] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: are you using the computer to chat now?
[19:27] <Surkow|laptop> yes
[19:28] <Surkow|laptop> from trying to kill nm-applet to using some ubuntu script to check for connection issues
[19:28] <Surkow|laptop> it seems it should work fine
[19:28] <Surkow|laptop> but no packages are transmitted
[19:28] <Surkow|laptop> aside form the communication between the router and my wireless card
[19:28] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: usually, when I plug in my network cable, the ethernet takes over, changing the routing table.
[19:28] <Surkow|laptop> and it has always worked for over 3.5 years
[19:30] <vafied_> any user of a laptop with docking port ?
[19:30] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: what ip address does your wifi get?
[19:30] <reachingperfecti> is ubuntu releasing on 13 oct ober or not ?
[19:30] <Patriot7912> How do you make samba a member of a domain
[19:30] <Surkow> <IP_ADDRESS>, madmax_
[19:30] <Battlecat> Is there any way to tell if a USB Wireless thumb will work with the 64 bit ubuntu 11.04 or higher?
[19:30] <Surkow> turned on my desktop
[19:30] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: and your eth
[19:30] <madmax_> ?
[19:30] <Surkow> <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:30] <Surkow> two different networks
[19:31] <crash1hd> hmm I have a drive mounted as fat16 EFI and when I try to do sudo chown root:root /media/EFI I get Operation not permited?
[19:31] <Surkow> it currently uses ethernet, I'll pull the plug to ping hte gateway
[19:31] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: what does the routing table look like?
[19:32] <vafied_> any user of a laptop with docking port ?
[19:32] <Surkow|laptop> no, but I've had to support my share of windows users with docking ports
[19:32] <Surkow|laptop> ;)
[19:33] <vafied_> Surkow|laptop: nice but i am having problems when docking and undocking on linux
[19:33] <Surkow|laptop> madmax_, did you receive the query?
[19:34] <Surkow|laptop> vafied_, could have been a hardware issue
[19:34] <Surkow|laptop> :)
[19:34] <vafied_> Surkow|laptop: working as support or sys admin ?
[19:34] <Surkow|laptop> both
[19:34] <Surkow|laptop> well
[19:34] <Surkow|laptop> that was some time ago
[19:34] <vafied_> Surkow|laptop:  thin is something about gnome because i can do that using kde with no problem
[19:34] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: yes, try without the cable in, but disconnect and reconnect to the wifi after pulling the cable
[19:34] <dmsuperman> How can I configure unity 2d?
[19:34] <Atreus> why am i unable to change the screen birghtness percentage while on battery power though the power management?
[19:35] <rodd> Hi
[19:35] <vafied_> Hi
[19:35] <rodd> I have ubuntu 11 on a sony vaio laptop and am having trouble setting the screen brightness
[19:35] <jason_> Question - what exactly does this refer to? ubuntu-ltsp01 dhcpd: DHCPNAK on <IP_ADDRESS> to 00:0a:95:81:74:17 via eth0. It's looping continually in my syslog.
[19:35] <rodd> does anyone have any idea of how can I overcome this?
[19:35] <Surkow|laptop> vafied_:what goes wrong exactly?
[19:35] <Surkow|laptop> madmax_, same thing
[19:35] <rodd> im getting blind here
[19:35] <rodd> so brighty
[19:36] <vafied_> screen goes black but everything still working
[19:36] <Surkow|laptop> or was I too fast?
[19:36] <Surkow|laptop> hmm
[19:36] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: did the routing table change?
[19:36] <Surkow|laptop> gnome switches to the most recently attached monitor
[19:36] <Surkow|laptop> same thing happens with my kvm switch
[19:36] <Surkow|laptop> no, madmax_
[19:36] <vafied_> Surkow|laptop: i can make everything works fine if i restart x server but that kill my session
[19:36] <gleydson> hello someone can help  me?
[19:37] <gleydson> i've a simple question
[19:37] <vafied_> gleydson: ask
[19:37] <Surkow|laptop> vafied_, that's actually a common problem for me
[19:37] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: if the routing table didn't change, then that is why you cannot ping/connect
[19:37] <Surkow|laptop> hmmm
[19:37] <gleydson> i want to use my webcam with windows users but when i connect they dnt see nothing
[19:37] <vafied_> Surkow|laptop: i tried using a script that changes betwen to x conf files
[19:37] <gleydson> i've ubuntu 10.04
[19:37] <usr13> gleydson: What application?
[19:38] <gleydson> emesene
[19:38] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: check the nm, make sure things are set to auto, and no manual stuff is set
[19:38] <gleydson> but i've tried with amsn too and dnt work
[19:38] <gleydson> has any solution?
[19:38] <reachingperfecti> when is ubuntu 11.10 releasing ?
[19:38] <vafied_> reachingperfecti: tomorrow
[19:38] <Surkow|laptop> madmax_, everything is correct
[19:39] <Surkow|laptop> nothing has changed since the wireless stopped working
[19:39] <Surkow|laptop> I'm running out of ideas
[19:39] <recon69_lap> gleydson: i take it your camera works fine when you test it locally
[19:39] <auronandace> reachingperfecti: read the topic
[19:39] <Surkow|laptop> what can stop the routing table from updating?
[19:39] <gleydson> yes
[19:39] <gleydson> i test with cheese too and works fine
[19:39] <SetiAmon> is there a exact time when 11.10 will be released will it be released after midnight or what
[19:40] <vafied_> Surkow|laptop:  whats the problem with madmax_ ?
[19:40] <Surkow|laptop> I have the issue ;)
[19:40] <Surkow|laptop> some routing table issues. Wifi connects, but I can't ping
[19:40] <Surkow|laptop> external sites
[19:40] <usr13> SetiAmon: They release it when they release it.
[19:41] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: route -n   #See if it is your router's IP.
[19:41] <madmax_> vafied_: he is using networkmanager to connect to 2 networks, a cabled and a wifi. 2  different subnets.  when he unpluges the cable, and tries to just connect wifi, the routing table does not change
[19:41] <gleydson> someone has any idea or a alternative?
[19:41] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: cat /etc/resolv.conf   #See if you have valid nameserver, (probably your routers IP will be first because it has caching nameserver).
[19:42] <Surkow|laptop> hmm, let me check
[19:42] <gleydson> to sugest me
[19:42] <recon69_lap> gleydson: skype?
[19:42] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: Can you ping the router?
[19:42] <vafied_> madmax_: gonna sound silly but did you try dhclient ?
[19:42] <Surkow|laptop> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:42] <Surkow|laptop> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:42] <Surkow|laptop> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:42] <gleydson> no one online xD
[19:42] <Surkow|laptop> seems like all the networks I connected to
[19:43] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: What is your router's IP?
[19:43] <Surkow|laptop> 2.1
[19:43] <Surkow|laptop> the top one
[19:43] <gleydson> but on my computer works fine
[19:43] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: can you ping 2.1?
[19:43] <Surkow|laptop> yes
[19:43] <madmax_> vafied_: I have not had him try that ye
[19:43] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: route -n   #See if it is your router's IP.
[19:43] <Surkow|laptop> yes
[19:43] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: host av.com
[19:44] <Surkow|laptop> av.com?
[19:44] <vafied_> madmax_:  but he wants some specific configurations instead of the dhcp server ones ?
[19:44] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: host av.com
[19:44] <Surkow|laptop> ah
[19:44] <usr13> Does it resolv?
[19:44] <Surkow|laptop> yes
[19:44] <Surkow|laptop> but I'm chatting right now
[19:44] <Surkow|laptop> :P
[19:44] <usr13> Ok good.
[19:44] <Surkow|laptop> so ethernet works
[19:44] <Surkow|laptop> I logged in with a second computer
[19:45] <Surkow|laptop> (without the laptop)
[19:45] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: Well, you have to actually work on the computer that is broken before you can hope to fix it.
[19:45] <Surkow|laptop> just so I can unplug the ethernet cable from time to time to test
[19:45] <vafied_> offtopic really groove salad is a great radio station
[19:45] <madmax_> vafied_: he wants to switch between cabled and wifi, and it stuck with the routing for the cable
[19:45] <h00k> vafied_: we have #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic chatter
[19:46] <Companion> h00k, there is an app for that
[19:46] <vafied_> hooch: ok ok but don't mind U_U
[19:46] <Surkow|laptop> http://pastebin.com/BU24iw8m
[19:46] <Surkow|laptop> output of host av
[19:46] <Surkow|laptop> so that works
[19:46] <MacGyverNL> I want to somehow fully restart the USB subsystem of a machine, however, usbcore on ubuntu is a kernel builtin rather than a module, so rmmod usbcore is not going to cut it. Is there any other way to do this?
[19:46] <vafied_> h00k: ok ok but don't mind U_U
[19:46] <Companion> wtf 2 h00k's on different servers? o.0
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> MacGyverNL: what sort of usb device is it?
[19:47] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: If that is from the computer you are working on, looks like you are good to go.  If it is not, it is irelevant.
[19:47] <Surkow|laptop> yes, it's the laptop that is troubled
[19:47] <h00k> Companion: no, one server. multiple channels
[19:47] <Surkow|laptop> but the moment I disconnect my ethernet
[19:47] <Surkow|laptop> and switch to wireless
[19:47] <Surkow|laptop> any wireless network
[19:47] <usr13> *irrelevant
[19:47] <Surkow|laptop> at work, university, family
[19:47] <Surkow|laptop> or at home
[19:47] <MacGyverNL> ActionParsnip: No device. The entire usb subsystem. As in, the usbcore module. But in Ubuntu it's not a module.
[19:47] <Surkow|laptop> I connect properly, but can't use internet
[19:48] <Companion> h00k, no one dude @ Quakenet asked me a question about android and linux and typed h0<tab> here and send the message to the wrong guy :')
[19:48] <auronandace> !enter | Surkow|laptop
[19:48] <h00k> Surkow|laptop: please keep your things on one line, it makes it easier to follow
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> MacGyverNL: true but if you remove then reload the driver for the usb device specifically it may work
[19:48] <h00k> Companion: ah, different guy. I claim he's stealing my name, or something.
[19:48] <Companion> lol h00k
[19:48] <MacGyverNL> ActionParsnip: I tried this, removing usbserial and pl2303.
[19:48] <MacGyverNL> No dice.
[19:48] <Surkow|laptop> hmm, I guess that's only logical in a busy channel as this. But I can take a hint.
[19:49] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: iwconfig   #Will tell you information about the wireless device and it's status.  Otherwise, use the network-manager to see what you can or can't connect to in the way of WiFi APs.
[19:49] <MacGyverNL> ActionParsnip: Maybe I'm missing a module though. The device is a towitoko usb smart card reader, under ubuntu 10.04.
[19:49] <MacGyverNL> It is detected the first time after boot.
[19:50] <madmax_> urs13: he connects, the routing table does not change
[19:50] <MacGyverNL> Then, if I unplug it, it is subsequently not handled correctly anymore.
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> MacGyverNL: run: lsmod    see if anything jumps out
[19:50] <vafied_> Surkow|laptop: did you tried a dhclient  ?
[19:51] <Surkow|laptop> usr13, I can connect. http://pastebin.com/nQ7miYDX
[19:53] <Surkow> hmmm
[19:55] <usr13> Surkow|laptop: Is it working?  host av.com
[19:56] <usr13> Surkow: if not,  try    dhclient wlan0
[19:56] <usr13> Surkow: if not,  try   sudo dhclient wlan0
[19:57] <Surkow> usr13, it seems to do something
[19:58] <Surkow> dhclient did make it work...but rather strange
[19:58] <xpress> can anybody help me a little =) ?
[19:58] <madmax_> Surkow: did the routing table change?
[19:58] <Surkow> yes it did
[19:58] <GNU\colossus> does upstart in ubuntu 10.04 still honor /etc/rc.local?
[19:59] <mang0> I'm trying to screen record with ffmpeg, but am failing badly...anyone know how to do this? Need video and sound. Thanks.
[19:59] <crash1hd> ok I removed udisks from my system and downloaded the tar from an older version how do I install it?
[19:59] <Surkow> but only after forcefully using sudo dhclient and waiting for a bit and disconnecting the cable. I'll link the resulting table
[19:59] <mang0> !ask | xpress
[19:59] <Jordan_U> GNU\colossus: Yes.
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> GNU\colossus: yes
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> GNU\colossus: add stuff above the exit 0 line and it will run as root (unless you add su goodness)
[20:01] <GNU\colossus> yup, I know that. stoooooopid me forgot to set the shellscript I mentioned there eXecutable though ;)
[20:01] <jon__> i recently installed ndiswrapper and my wireless device but when running iwconfig i cant see my device and when i run modprobe ndiswrapper it gives me an error that say FATAL: module ndiswrapper not found how do i fix this lol
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> GNU\colossus: d'oh ;)
[20:02] <xpress> ubottu: thanks i didn't know =)
[20:02] <xpress> :D
[20:02] <Surkow> madmax_, usr13 http://pastebin.com/wgjFvUFT
[20:03] <bucaneiro> ubottu: you look smart
[20:04] <madmax_> Surkow|laptop: what is in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:04] <Surkow> auto lo, and then something about ethernet
[20:04] <Surkow> let me check
[20:04] <xpress> so .. i was trying to install madwifi but i have this problem (wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device) when i try to put (xpress@xpress:~$ wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta) .. can anybody helps =)
[20:05] <Surkow> madmax_, auto lo, iface lo inet loopback
[20:06] <madmax_> Surkow: and in network manager, is everything for eth0 set to auto? also, when was the last time it was rebooted?
[20:06] <bucaneiro> claro.net.br ? i know this guy
[20:06] <undecim> Does anyone know of a command that can pad a text file with spaces to a certain width?
[20:06] <brentw> Hi there. I'm using 11.04 and have started using the AWM dock. I'm trying to remove the main gnome panel, but I've not having any luck.
[20:06] <socket> hello, just install ubuntu server, during the installation i did not install any specific service. does it come with apache installed?
[20:07] <undecim> socket: No, you will have to install apache yourself if you want it
[20:07] <jrib> socket: not if you did not ask for it
[20:07] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> brentw: You mean the Thick ubuntu bar on the right? I don't think you can get rid of that
[20:07] <undecim> socket: sudo apt-get install lamp-server, I think will install apache, php, mysql
[20:07] <Surkow> I reboot every day. eth0 has automatic for everything
[20:07] <Isumi> 4th time just visiting the google home page crashes my X server -_-
[20:07] <Surkow> except for the mac address it seems
[20:08] <undecim> 11.04 has unity, right?
[20:08] <Surkow> yes
[20:08] <madmax_> Surkow: what if you disable the wired connection
[20:08] <undecim> I don't think you can remove the bar with unity...
[20:08] <alexsandr> :(
[20:08] <Surkow> or simply remove it? I suppose it'll get recreated, right?
[20:08] <undecim> Now with ubuntu-classic, you can remove it
[20:08] <Jordan_U> libscout__: Yes. See the utilities grub-reboot and grub-set-default utilities. You'll need GRUB_DEFAULT=saved in /etc/default/grub.
[20:08] <madmax_> just try to disable
[20:08] <brentw> MAREK_BENC_NetB, that's unity. I'm using classic though. which is regular gnome
[20:09] <undecim> brentw: oh, if you're using classic, it's easy
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> undecim: Ubuntu comes with Unity2D instead of Ubuntu Classic
[20:09] <Surkow> madmax_, if I disconnect my ethernet the wireless keeps working
[20:09] <socket> this ubuntu box is going to be a local web dev box, running httpd & mysql & php. any reason i should use xttpd/dhttpd/thttpd instead of apache ?
[20:09] <Surkow> dhclient did seem to fix it
[20:09] <jrib> socket: no
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> undecim: in Oneiric, that is
[20:09] <MAREK_BENC_NetB> brentw: Right click and remove panel doesn't work?
[20:09] <libscout__> Jordan_U: thanks... i actually figured it out... bad reboot caused boot screen\
[20:10] <Surkow> I'll try a reboot. :)
[20:10] <brentw> undecim, Where should I be looking? i've removed all settings that specify gnome-panel as the default panel
[20:10] <krisss117> hi, i need some app to recover my files from USB drive
[20:10] <madmax_> i am wondering why the wired connection still had the route info
[20:10] <undecim> brentw: I forget the key you have to change in gconf, but I wrote about it on my blog a while back... gimme a minute to find it
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> krisss117: foremost works well
[20:10] <jrib> socket: wel I'd suggest just using whatever will be used in production
[20:10] <koaja> Hello.
[20:10] <socket> thanks
[20:10] <Jordan_U> libscout__: You're welcome.
[20:10] <undecim> brentw: http://blog.undecim.org/replace-gnome-panel-with-avant-window-navigator-or-any-other-dock/
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> krisss117: or scalpel. Backups will definately be the best option
[20:10] <brentw> undecim, Changing the key doesn't seem to work. I've tried that, gnome-panle still appears. :(
[20:11] <undecim> brentw: Which key?
[20:11] <brentw> undecim: the exact one you specify in your blog
[20:11] <krisss117> thank's
[20:12] <brentw> I've made that change, but the panel still loads
 i am wondering why the wired connection still had the route info
[20:12] <Surkow> hmm, I can only add new connections or remove them
[20:13] <undecim> brentw: It must be as ActionParsnip said then. You're using unity2D instead of Gnome
[20:13] <koaja> Im trying to mount a Server via SSHFS on my PC. It works and i can see the files from the server. But i cant save edited files! Over a console with ssh it is possible, but i cant edit the files of the mountet path. Has someone a idea?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> undecim: unity2d can run on gnome, it doesn't replace it :)
[20:14] <koaja> i cant find the problem.
[20:14] <brentw> undecim, it's not unity though. it's just a regular gnome-panel
[20:14] <xpress>  so .. i was trying to install madwifi but i have this problem (wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device) when i try to put (xpress@xpress:~$ wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta) .. can anybody helps =)
[20:15] <brentw> I can killall it and it just reloads on me
[20:15] <xpress> ^^
[20:17] <madmax_> Surkow: did you reboot?
[20:17] <Surkow> madmax_, usr13 - it seems to perform correctly, even after a reboot. So for some reason the routing table is properly updated now
[20:17] <Surkow> yes
[20:17] <Surkow> it still works
[20:17]  * alexsandr is listening to "Зачем?" by Ginex feat. Новое Время [, 0]
[20:17] <madmax_> nice
[20:17] <undecim> brentw: Well, you could just rename the gnome-panel binary so nothing can find it.
[20:17] <undecim> brentw: You might have to do that every time it's updated, though.
[20:17] <Surkow> I suppose the routing table should lose the 2.1 destination in route -n after disconnection eth0?
[20:17] <undecim> brentw: Or actually, just make it non-executable
[20:18] <madmax_> Surkow: yes, if in auto, it should update upon a network change
[20:18] <Surkow> madmax_, it loses the 2.1
[20:18] <Surkow> awesome :D
[20:19] <Surkow> plugging it in shows it again. I suppose dhclient does not affect nm directly, right? So this wasn't a network manager problem.
[20:19] <brentw> undecim: That might be my only option. I just don't understand what's forcing it to reload. It just seems so strange
[20:19] <madmax_> the dhclient was just a one time command. it's what network manager does when you change a setting
[20:19] <Surkow> simply asking for a new dhcp ip with dhclient solved all the issues
[20:19] <Surkow> oh
[20:20] <Surkow> I  haven' t changed any settings in nm
[20:20] <undecim> brentw: I'll see if I can coerce some functionality out of VirtualBox and mess around with it (I'm on Arch, currently)
[20:20] <madmax_> Surkow: for what ever reason, nm was not seeing the change when you unplugged the cable
[20:20] <Surkow> magic, I got it ;)
[20:20] <Surkow> thanks for the support guys
[20:21] <madmax_> Surkow: or it saw it, and hung up doing something for it
[20:21] <brentw> undecim, Cool. I will try a few more things. If I have a result I'll let you know. ;)
[20:21] <Surkow> lets see if it still works when I'll use a network with a certificate tomorrow
[20:21] <Malgorath> i just installed ubuntu 11.04 and fully updated everything. but the max resolution my system is shwoing is 13xx by 768, my monitor is 1440 x 900 and my video card is an nvidia 210 which supports up to 1920x1080. when i check the additional drivers says its activated but not in use(nvidia driver)
[20:22] <guntbert> Malgorath: that might be one of the few cases to reboot you system after changing something
[20:23] <Malgorath> guntbert, it asked me to and i did already
[20:23] <mendota> opinions welcome: do you guys think a Ubuntu boot disk will have any more luck than an XP boot disk with a HDD problem that's throwing blue screens of death?
[20:23] <guntbert> Malgorath: then I don't know, sorry
[20:23] <opt1mus> mendota: can't harm to try.
[20:24] <undecim_> mendota: Neither one should be related to HDD problems
[20:24] <Malgorath> guntbert, np, thanks for suggesting something :)
[20:24] <mendota> opt1mus, undecim_ yeah, that's mostly what i was thinking
[20:24] <opt1mus> mendota: I had BSoD with an XP system, and booted Linux no problem.
[20:25] <mendota> but, it'd be nice not to have to completely dismantle this laptop to change out its corrupted/virused? HDD
[20:25] <koaja> Im trying to mount a Server via SSHFS on my PC. It works and i can see the files from the server. But i cant save edited files! Over a console with ssh it is possible, but i cant edit the files of the mountet path. Has someone a idea?
[20:25] <opt1mus> mendota: It was related to me messing with a flashfire program.
[20:25] <undecim_> mendota: What problems are you having booting an XP disc?
[20:25] <Malgorath> koaja, permissions are not set right
[20:25] <osu_> hello
[20:26] <mendota> undecim_ well, i've got this vaio that's got no boot screen and it hangs after the XP disk tries to run its installation program
[20:26] <koaja> Malgorath, how should the be?
[20:26] <mendota> undecim_ i get the feeling there might be more wrong than the HDD, but i'm willing to test a couple of avenues first.
[20:26] <Surkow|laptop> byes
[20:26] <opt1mus> mendota: Have you recently installed new RAM or any other changes?
[20:26] <undecim_> mendota: At what point does it hang? Before it even loads the install part, or while the installation is running?
[20:26] <tacomaster> does anyone know how to automate a command when a usb device is plugged in what i have so far is a bash script with the command and a line is the visudo file "%admin ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/iwconfig" but i dont want to have to click every time i plug in the device
[20:27] <ubuntu_> k
[20:27] <mendota> undecim_ it gets most of its drivers set up
[20:27] <opt1mus> oh
[20:27] <koaja> Malgorath, the premissions of the server or my local server?
[20:27] <osu_> i have problem with ubuntu like this : cant run it from 1st  usb hdd makes my pc into restart loop, cantu run it from second usb hdd black screen nothing happens, cant frun it from pendrive, cant get good vga driver i have splitted screen made from bars hard to explain, any suggestions ?
[20:27] <mendota> undecim_ and then it stops with an error screen
[20:27] <opt1mus> mendota: code?
[20:27] <mendota> undecim_ claims i should run chkdsk on the hdd
[20:27] <Polah> tacomaster, look up udev rules
[20:27] <Malgorath> koaja, could be either
[20:27] <mendota> undecim_ let's see...should be in my search history...
[20:27] <undecim_> mendota: Yeah, that sounds like a hardware issue
[20:28] <glassresistor> need help from someone outside the US with firebug/web console installed, will take 2sec
[20:28] <osu_> so them will someone help ? :)
[20:28] <osu_> then*
[20:28] <mendota> undecim_ it's a stop code: "stop 0x0000007b"
[20:28] <tacomaster> Polah: ok ty
[20:28] <guntbert> glassresistor: that seem hardly like an ubuntu support question?
[20:29] <guntbert> *seems
[20:29] <osu_> no one will help newbie like me ? :(
[20:29] <undecim_> mendota: Yeah. See if the Ubuntu CD gets anywhere
[20:29] <guntbert> !please | osu_
[20:29] <mendota> undecim_ okay. i hope it works. it's this used/refurbish my dad picked up...so, i'm crossing all my fingers, lol
[20:30] <osu_> or maybe is there some linux distro that already is using kvm virtualization and can be launched from pendrive ?
[20:30] <swick> how comes that my /etc/bash_completion.d/ is nearly empty? I've installed aptitude but it does not show up there.
[20:31] <glassresistor> guntbert: very off-topic alopogies but don't know of a #outside-the-us-with-console-log
[20:31] <Malgorath> here is my bug report for nvidia activate but not in use, anyone able to help out? http://pastebin.com/n82pVU1x
[20:31] <undecim_> mendota: If it doesn't work, then try a new HDD. If that doesn't work, then it's the mobo, and that's generally more expensive than just selling off the working parts of the laptop and buying a newly refurbished one.
[20:31] <mendota> undecim_ okay. that's good to know
[20:31] <guntbert> glassresistor: try #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[20:31] <mendota> undecim_ i'm just avoiding the HDD replacement...because it's going to be a pain cracking that case
[20:32] <mendota> undecim_ but there's 4 good gigs of laptop RAM i could salvage :D
[20:32] <undecim_> mendota: Usually the HDD is 1-4 screws away... Is sony THAT bad at making things?
[20:32] <koaja> Malgorath, how can i detect it?
[20:33] <Fuchs> Malgorath: invalid EDID
[20:33] <Fuchs> Malgorath: either try to get a valid EDID for your monitor, or specifiy the allowed resolutions manually,
[20:33] <mendota> undecim_ well, there's no obvious access
[20:33] <Fuchs> Malgorath: e.g. with X Server modelines.
[20:33] <mendota> undecim_ like my toshiba has two panels that you just open one screw for the primary/secondary hdd
[20:34] <jrib> swick: do you have the package "bash-completion" installed?
[20:34] <glassresistor> guntbert: thanks, again apologies
[20:35] <undecim_> while true; do mv head desk/; mv desk/head ./; done
[20:35] <Malgorath> Fuchs, ugh haven't done those in many a moon. how would i get a valid edid?
[20:35] <Fuchs> Malgorath: do you have by chance windows on that machine?
[20:36] <Fuchs> for some unknwon reasons the driver there is a bit less picky, and you could use it to dump the EDID to a file, which can be fed to the linux driver with the UseCustomEDID Option
[20:36] <vafied_> is there a spanish ubuntu channel ?
[20:36] <Ntemis> hi
[20:36] <Malgorath> fuchs i have the same monitor on another computer with windows 7 if that helps but this box is linux only
[20:36] <Ntemis> i need your expert help on a gbit lan firmware upgrade for a server eq
[20:36] <osu_> my pc wont run ubuntu why ? i get black screen, split junk screen,
[20:36] <swick> jrib: no.
[20:37] <Ntemis> is a script from hp than updates the firmware on my nic but ubuntu is not supported
[20:37] <Fuchs> oh, Malgorath, wait
[20:37] <xpress> somebody can fix that wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device ?
[20:37] <Fuchs> Malgorath: you set this resolution by yourself in the xorg.conf
[20:37] <jrib> swick: you probably want it :)
[20:37] <Ntemis> Red HAt or Suse
[20:37] <Fuchs> Malgorath: Option         "metamodes" "1360x768 +0+0"  <<
[20:37] <Ntemis> will it work on my server?
[20:37] <Malgorath> with nvidia settings
[20:37] <opt1mus> osu_: Are you currently running anything that does work?
[20:37] <Malgorath> Fuchs, i used the nvidia settings but that was the highest it would go
[20:37] <osu_> windows ?
[20:37] <swick> jrib: yeah, thats it. forgot to logout and in again. thanks
[20:38] <madmax_> xpress: can you show me the output of iwconfig
[20:38] <xpress> madmax_: second
[20:38] <Ntemis> here is the link of it
[20:38] <Ntemis> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=329290&prodSeriesId=3811480&swItem=MTX-7d1cb598f6c747eeb02ccdd759&prodNameId=3811481&swEnvOID=4006&swLang=8&taskId=135&mode=3
[20:38] <opt1mus> osu_: is it only via usb that you've tried running ubuntu? Or have you tried via CD/DVD or perhaps different distros?
[20:38] <osu_> its hard to explain i get or black screen with this symbol _ and mouse cursor sometimes or i get really junky screen that looks like 2 desktops that are cut to straps
[20:39] <osu_> when i try to run from cd i get reboot loop
[20:39] <Ntemis> and the executable is: CP014347.scexe
[20:39] <Ntemis> will it work or i will destroy my nic?
[20:39] <osu_> when i try to run from pendrive i get that junk screes if its from hdd i get black screen really strange
[20:39] <Fuchs> Malgorath: then that might be due to the driver not be able to read the EDID
[20:39] <osu_> it is as it cant recognize my vga
[20:39] <xpress> madmax_: lo        no wireless extensions.
[20:39] <xpress> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[20:39] <xpress> wlan0     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:"THOMSON"
[20:39] <xpress>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: 00:1E:69:1D:42:8B
[20:39] <xpress>           Bit Rate=48 Mb/s   Tx-Power=16 dBm
[20:39] <xpress>           Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[20:40] <FloodBot1> xpress: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:40] <opt1mus> osu_: have you tried another distro, or just ubuntu?
[20:40] <dork> Ntemis: i would be surprised if it created compat issues
[20:40] <osu_> only ubuntu as it says setting up kvm on it is super easy :)
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> osu_: what gpu do you use?
[20:40] <LjL> xpress: please use the pastebin for pasting
[20:40] <madmax_> xpress: you can't paste it into the channel, use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:40] <osu_> radeon 4850 and intel
[20:41] <osu_> i have i7 cpu so it have integrated gpu
[20:41] <Malgorath> Fuchs, so should i just edit the xorg and add 1440x900?
[20:41] <osu_> and 4850
[20:41] <xpress> sory for that i didnt know =) :P
[20:41] <xpress> i have linux from 2 days ^^
[20:41] <Ntemis> dork:because it only states rpm distros, i thought it my req an rmp package or something
[20:41] <cables_malo> hi, when i try and use the 11.04 livedisk it hangs after i load the GUI
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> osu_: oh, one of those dual gpu hybrid things?
[20:42] <dork> Ntemis: it's in a prolient machine?
[20:42] <Ntemis> yes
[20:42] <osu_> yup
[20:42] <Fuchs> Malgorath: you probably have to specify a modeline for that
[20:42] <opt1mus> ah.
[20:42] <dork> Ntemis: should be fine.
[20:42] <madmax_> xpress: we all start some where.  paste the output of iwconfig into http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:42] <Fuchs> Malgorath: there are tools that generate them for you
[20:42] <xpress> http://pastebin.com/S9HmJV74
[20:42] <Malgorath> what are they called?\
[20:43] <Ntemis> dork: really hope so :)
[20:43] <xpress> madmax_: http://pastebin.com/S9HmJV74
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> osu_: those are nothing but headache
[20:43] <Fuchs> Malgorath: gtf  is one
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> osu_: could try the boot option: nomodeset
[20:43] <osu_> well its not my fault that intel did put integrated gpu in cpu
[20:43] <opt1mus> osu_: perhaps a distro less obsolete will give more joy.
[20:43] <osu_> well i jsut want kvm virtualization
[20:43] <osu_> just*
[20:43] <cables_malo> who in here knows what will hang a live session?
[20:44] <osu_> hmmm ill try that nomodeset
[20:44] <xpress> madmax_: w8 i go WC ^^
[20:44] <extradessert> cables_malo: what is your system specs?
[20:44] <opt1mus> cables_malo: perhaps oom
[20:44] <madmax_> okay, it says that your wifi is associated with "THOMSON"
[20:44] <reisio> cables_malo: old hardware, bad burn, power fluctuation
[20:44] <osu_> any other suggestion before i reboot pc ? :)
[20:44] <dork> Ntemis: IMO you have a greater chance of having a conflict on redhat based systems but that's a an unkind bias opinion :P
[20:44] <cables_malo> reisio: puppy linux works perfect
[20:44] <opt1mus> osu_: try something with later kernel?
[20:45] <cables_malo> reisio: what about a boot option for rams or power options?
[20:45] <osu_> sorry im quite new into linux thingie
[20:45] <madmax_> xpress:are you using a standard ubuntu install with the gnome desktop?
[20:45] <reisio> cables_malo: or a BIOS option
[20:45] <osu_> i dont know what distro may have newer kernel
[20:45] <reisio> osu_: what're you up to?
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> osu_: disable one of the GPUs if you can
[20:45] <opt1mus> osu_: ubuntu oneiric, just a stab in the dark really.
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> osu_: Oneiric has a newer kernel, may help
[20:46] <cables_malo> reisio: but which one for Dell Latitude D820?
[20:46] <osu_> ok ill try that
[20:46] <reisio> you don't have to change distro to get a newer kernel
[20:46] <madmax_> xpress: are you using a standard ubuntu install with the gnome desktop?
[20:46] <trama> how to configure sound chipset alc888 realtek in Ubuntu 11.10?
[20:46] <trama> notebook gx660r
[20:46] <reisio> trama: something not working?
[20:46] <BarkingFish> !oneiric | trama
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> trama: ask in #ubuntu+1
[20:46] <opt1mus> reisio: I'm aware of that but osu_ can't initiate an install.
[20:47] <osu_> reisio i just want to try kvm virtualization as someone said it support native support for i/o os i tought i will be able to run windoews as guest and use all apps on native gpu
[20:47] <reisio> ah
[20:47] <reisio> to a certain extent I'm sure
[20:47] <xpress> madmax_: sry i said i was going to bayhroom
[20:47] <reisio> what apps did you have in mind?
[20:47] <osu_> well 3dsmax
[20:47] <xpress> madmax_: i am with xubuntu ...
[20:47] <osu_> maybe some games
[20:48] <xpress> madmax_: xfce i think but i have and gnom and KDE installed :D
[20:48] <madmax_> xpress: okay, show me ifconfig
[20:48] <madmax_> xpress: ifconfig -a
[20:48] <trama> reisi, sound only works on first boot after installation, then, no longer works, or the speaker or the headset
[20:49] <reisio> osu_: and you clared your proc for compatibility already?
[20:49] <reisio> trama: you check alsamixer for muted/low volume channels?
[20:49] <osu_> its i7 :) it will work
[20:49] <xpress> madmax_ : http://pastebin.com/kG96As67
[20:49] <trama> reisi, yes, but not mut...i checked
[20:49] <trama> reisi, I tried reinstalling alsa, added the ALC888 model in alsa-conf, but decided not too ... I looked on forums English, and French en
[20:50] <opt1mus> pulseaudio may do the trick.
[20:50] <xpress> madmax_: http://pastebin.com/t3g6kNBS
[20:50] <trama> reisi, many people have problems with this chipset Realtek ALC888 HD, the sound is very good .. is not hardware issue, because the windows operate normally
[20:50] <reisio> trama: rei[TAB]
[20:51] <osu_> ok ill try that nomodeset ill be back if it wont work . Thanks for help and bye guys
[20:51] <cables_malo> guys, i have the same laptop as my friend and i have never had a livedisk hang like this. the only difference is that his has 533mhz rams.
[20:52] <reisio> cables_malo: try a USB stick instead
[20:52] <madmax_> xpress: those to post's show that you are connected to "THOMSON" wifi network with an ip of <IP_ADDRESS>.  Is this what you want to be connected to?
[20:52] <reisio> trama: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=534070 maybe
[20:52] <trama> reisi, ?
[20:52] <cables_malo> you think its a cheap CD drive?
[20:52] <xpress> madmax_: yea ...
[20:52] <reisio> trama: type 'r', 'e', then 'i', then hit 'TAB'
[20:52] <reisio> cables_malo: never encountered an expensive one...
[20:53] <madmax_> xpress: then maybe I am unclear what you are trying to do
[20:53] <cables_malo> reisio, scsi 2X circa 1996?
[20:53] <reisio> cables_malo: but just the fundamental technology and process behind optical disc drives as we know them is inferior to solid state
[20:53] <cables_malo> well puppy is working, so you might be right
[20:53] <cables_malo> guess i can try the installer to disk?
[20:53] <cables_malo> from CDR?
[20:53] <xpress> madmax_: i just try to install madwifi .. and i have the problem (http://pastebin.com/t3g6kNBS) i really dont know what to do :/
[20:53] <reisio> cables_malo: ?
[20:53] <xpress> ops...
[20:54] <vafied_> any of you know a good sysadmin related book ?
[20:54] <xpress> madmax_:the problem (wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device)
[20:54] <cables_malo> if the livesession doesnt work then do you think the install process will do the same thing?
[20:54] <trama> reisio, OK...i looking the forum...
[20:55] <xpress> reisio: hi ... can u help me now :D ..
[20:56] <cables_malo> reisio: i was using the toram option!
[20:56] <steel_> hi,just want to ask what size should i give to my /usr ,given that i have given 128 mb to /boot, 30 gb to /,and rest to /home.how much size should i cut from /home to give it to /usr?
[20:56] <reisio> cables_malo: ?
[20:56] <cables_malo> reisio: i was using the toram option!  ----- running from the rams
[20:57] <reisio> steel_: unless you mean to make it a different filesystem I wouldn't bother
[20:57] <reisio> cables_malo: why were you doing that
[20:57] <rww> steel_: You do realize you can just use one partition for everything, right? Splitting it up like that is a headache and runs the risk of you running out on room (especially on /boot, 128MB is tiny).
[20:57] <madmax_> xpress: what is the reason for using madwifi if you are connected now?
[20:57] <cables_malo> reisio: i always do that
[20:57] <cables_malo> reisio: hangs either way
[20:58] <reisio> rww: how much data do you have in /boot/ ?
[20:58] <reisio> cables_malo: ...
[20:58] <xpress> madmax_: when i am connected a times it just stops and i have to exit and enter again to the network .. that happens every 1-2 minutes ..
[20:58] <xpress> madmax_: and it works fine for 2 minutes and again ..
[20:59] <madmax_> xpress: show me dmesg |grep ath
[20:59] <steel_> rww and reisio , it's just that whenever i switch my distro i loose all my softwares.so i was just thinking creating a separate /usr will save me the trouble
[20:59] <xpress> madmax_: http://pastebin.com/7mWiMW7d
[20:59] <rww> steel_: No, it'll cause you a lot of pain and package management issues.
[20:59] <scwizard_> I tried to sudo chown something
[21:00] <reisio> steel_: stop switching distros, that'll save you the trouble
[21:00] <default_|> UIbuntu br?
[21:00] <Andamio_Pizjuan> oniversochat.net
[21:00] <reisio> steel_: though it shouldn't be hard to generate a list of non-dep packages you have installed from any distro
[21:00] <default_|> help-me in portuguese
[21:00] <reisio> steel_: to be installed on any other distro
[21:00] <reisio> default_|: #ubuntu-br or -pt
[21:00] <Malgorath> Fuchs, gtf short for anything?
[21:00] <DETERMINOLOGY> Im really thinking about dual booting linux on this pc
[21:01] <default_|> thanks
[21:01] <steel_> reisio,i'm using natty right now,eventually i have to switch
[21:01] <madmax_> xpress: show me lspci
[21:01] <Jordan_U> steel_: /usr can *not* be shared between distros.
[21:01] <reisio> steel_: why's that?
[21:01] <Fuchs> Malgorath: it's the name of the tool, I have no idea whether it has a meaning
[21:01] <trama> reisio, I tried the procedure mentioned in the forum already, but now even lost my hardware that was listed in the sound of ubuntu ...
[21:01] <steel_> reisio,its not lts
[21:01] <reisio> DETERMINOLOGY: you should determine it ;p
[21:01] <xpress> madmax_: http://pastebin.com/1pGd7GWx
[21:02] <Malgorath> Fuchs, is it in apt repo or something i'd have to look up?
[21:02] <Fuchs> Malgorath: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=gtf&mode=exactfilename&suite=natty&arch=any
[21:02] <rotflcopter> "Take your chance to use this open window..."
[21:03] <reisio> steel_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OneiricUpgrades
[21:03] <DETERMINOLOGY> Yea most def reisio
[21:03] <reisio> steel_: you don't reinstall in Linux land
[21:03] <reisio> there's no need
[21:03] <DETERMINOLOGY> I mean i use a vm with it but its not the way i want it
[21:03] <madmax_> xpress: check out this post http://blog.homelinux.org/?p=327
[21:03] <reisio> DETERMINOLOGY: yeah, not quite the same
[21:03] <xpress> madmax_: well ?
[21:04] <madmax_> xpress: ^^^
[21:04] <steel_> oh ok thanks reisio , Jordan_U ,rww
[21:04] <xpress> madmax_: sry i didnt see that u writed something ^^
[21:04] <DETERMINOLOGY> reisio whats the best way to partition the drive or let ubuntu do it its self? Cause i might do it tomorrow
[21:04] <xpress> madmax_: i now look
[21:04] <Malgorath> fuchs thanks i'm gonna try to restart x now
[21:04] <madmax_> xpress: what version of xubuntu?
[21:05] <reisio> DETERMINOLOGY: for a desktop?  Just do one big / and ext4 if you don't want to think about it
[21:05] <DETERMINOLOGY> Yea desktop
[21:06] <extradessert> DETERMINOLOGY: are you going to keep the old os?
[21:06] <extradessert> otherwse let ubuntu partition itself
[21:07] <xpress> madmax_: the last one
[21:08] <xpress> madmax_: but that is not how to fix the (wlanconfig: ioctl: No such device) right ?
[21:09] <madmax_> xpress: the last one? 11.04, 10.10. 10.04? This will address the connection issues that you are having.  Frequent drop's, etc.
[21:09] <BarkingFish> Has ubuntu ever had a version which would install on machines running ARM or StrongARM, like PPC, HP iPAQ, etc?
[21:10] <malgorath> well.. that was... interesting
[21:10] <xpress> madmax_: 11.04 but i am not sure :D
[21:10] <default_|> I can use BitchsX in ubuntu 11.4
[21:10] <reisio> BarkingFish: pretty sure, yeah
[21:10] <reisio> BarkingFish: and certainly Debian has
[21:11] <Pici> default_|: No. bitchx was removed from Debian (and thus Ubuntu) a number of releases ago.
[21:11] <malgorath> Fuchs, perhaps I should figure out where to put that, I tried to replace the line in my xorg.conf but must have borked it up cause it was really wrong
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> isn't bitchx no longer developed?
[21:11] <Pici> !bitchx | default_|
[21:11] <reisio> irssi is better anyways
[21:11] <default_|> what similary a Bitchs I can use ?
[21:11] <xpress> madmax_: i reboot =)
[21:12] <BarkingFish> reisio, is there any chance there'd still be ISO's of it somewhere?  I'm trying to switch my old HP iPAQ RX1950 over to linux from WM5, and want something I can install from an SD Card, since I have no sync leads for it
[21:12] <Pici> default_|: irssi or weechat
[21:12] <default_|> irssi
[21:12] <madmax_> xpress: okay
[21:12] <default_|> thanks
[21:12] <extradessert> default_|: irssi
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> reisio: better than a dead project, most things are  ;)
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> pidgin here :)
[21:13] <reisio> ActionParsnip: you could be right about that :p
[21:13] <reisio> BarkingFish: WM5?
[21:14] <BarkingFish> windows mobile 5.0, reisio
[21:14] <crash1hd> OK this is bazar, I just loaded LiveUSB 11.04 and the CD stuff works fine But the installed version doesnt
[21:14] <Fuchs> malgorath: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[21:14] <reisio> BarkingFish: ah, horrors
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> crash1hd: whats it do / not do?
[21:16] <reisio> BarkingFish: http://www.anytux.org/hardware.php?system_id=1081
[21:16] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, well if I insert a CD or DVD or even just close the Drawer with nothing in it the system locks up
[21:16] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, this doesnt happen in 10.10 just 11.04
[21:17] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, but I just tried using the liveUSB and it is not crashing with that?
[21:17] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, even though its using the same udisks as the one installed
[21:17] <crash1hd> version
[21:17] <reisio> BarkingFish: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22linux%20on%22%20%22ipaq%22%20%22rx1950%22 few other leads, too
[21:17] <reisio> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> crash1hd: are you fully updated?
[21:18] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, yes
[21:18] <BarkingFish> excellent, thanks reisio :)
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> crash1hd: so if you never use the optical drive its ok?
[21:19] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, it happenes on 2 machines same hardware from fresh install
[21:19] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, yes
[21:19] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, but the minute I open / close the tray it locksup
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> crash1hd: any bugs reported?
[21:19] <pangolin> How do I rmdir with files?
[21:19] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, not that I could find
[21:20] <xpress> madmax_: man you lied to me ? :S
[21:20] <MrKeuner> hello, my Intel Corporation 82562V-2 eth card loses connectivity after some random time. I wrote a dirty script that reboots the system after 5minutes of Internet unconnectivity... Is there a way to restart? the eth card instead ?
[21:20] <madmax_> xpress: what do you mean?
[21:20] <xpress> madmax_: i mean i restarted and i havesnt got any network
[21:20] <Travis-42> is there an alternative to avahi-daemon? It causes performance issues when used with another software I'm using.
[21:20] <xpress> madmax_: i deleated the file
[21:20] <reisio> MrKeuner: you might try /etc/init.d/network restart (or whatever) instead
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> crash1hd: I suggest you report one. If you press CTRL+ALT+F1 when the system hangs, does it take you  to cli?
[21:20] <reisio> service something something
[21:20] <atannus> Hi folks.
[21:20] <xpress> madmax_: i now have network but the OC is bugged
[21:21] <reisio> MrKeuner: or check your router
[21:21] <reisio> atannus: hi
[21:21] <xpress> madmax_: i cant click to exit from program
[21:21] <MrKeuner> reisio, router is the campus router...
[21:21] <madmax_> xpress: I don't like being called a liar, when trying to help you.  I upgraded to 11.10 beta 2. I believe that with actualizations, it will become the final release the day that it's available. But I'm not finding any actualization any day. Is it normal? I thought everyday there would be some new things to update
[21:22] <xpress> madmax_: i am sry if i insulted you
[21:23] <MrKeuner> reisio, do you think rmmod e1000e and insmod e1000e before restarting networking be better?
[21:23] <xpress> madmax_: but now my computer is for the rubbish ,9
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> crash1hd: do you have a different optical drive to test?
[21:23] <reisio> MrKeuner: I guess you could try it if other things don't work
[21:23] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, no sadly (but I did have 2 systems with the exact same specs, but of course the both had it happen)
[21:23] <madmax_> xpress: first, what file did you add/remove
[21:23] <atannus> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a Toshiba Satellite and I get a RSOD. I have tried Ubuntu server 9.04 and 9.10. Ubuntu Desktop 9.04, 9.10, 10.04, 10.10 and 11.04. All desktop installs (including Debian 5 Desktop) and server install generate a RSOD with  Deboostrap warning excep 10.04 which loads the background and freezes (only mouse responds do movement). I havefound no info on this anywhere... Windows xp, vista and 07 install fine.
[21:23] <reisio> pangolin: rm path/to/dir/ -fr
[21:24] <xpress> madmax_: how can i send you picture ?
[21:24] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, its a SATA optical drive
[21:24] <atannus> If anyone can clue me in, I'll be forever grateful!
[21:24] <reisio> pangolin: what's nice about rmdir is you can use it on dirs and know it will only work if you've already emptied the dir
[21:24] <recon69_lap>  MrKeuner: you could try ifup ifdown as well
[21:24] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, and this no mobo has no IDE connections
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> crash1hd: in BIOS, set the SATA to IDE compatibility mode
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> crash1hd: all drives are IDE ;)
[21:24] <reisio> atannus: red screen of death?
[21:24] <madmax_> xpress: post it on picassa or something?
[21:24] <MrKeuner> recon69_lap, what does ifup do? assign the IP number?
[21:24] <reisio> recon69_lap: or a different kernel version
[21:24] <xpress> can you accept ?
[21:24] <atannus> reisio, yes.
[21:25] <MrKeuner> reisio, I am already using -35
[21:25] <nvz> I just installed ubuntu 11.04 on this pure intel machine and it seems like it freezes but analyzing the logs says it had gotten my SAK and did kill X, but I cannot get to a tty or anything when it happens. I think it may be the FB crapping out
[21:25] <MrKeuner> .35
[21:25] <madmax_> xpress: I don't except files from irc chats
[21:25] <xpress> madmax_: can you acsept ?
[21:25] <reisio> atannus: I thought that was a Windows thing... you talking about some BIOS thing?
[21:25] <recon69_lap> MrKeuner: http://wiki.kartbuilding.net/index.php/Ifup-ifdown
[21:25] <madmax_> xpress: show me cat /etc/issue
[21:25] <xpress> madmax_: how to upload it ?
[21:25] <xpress> w8
[21:26] <nvz> Its onboard Intel GMA 950 so idk.. but the whole X display freezes and I can't do anything but hard shutdown cause the screen stops refreshing even though apparently the kernel is fine
[21:26] <xpress> Ubuntu 11.04 \n \l
[21:26] <atannus> reisio, no... I'm assuming Debootstrap is Debian Bootstrap or something... It happens after the install begins bootstraping/loading. It is a linux/debian/kernel thing... not bios FOR SURE.
[21:26] <reisio> nvz: when X starts, or randomly afterwards?
[21:26] <xpress> madmax_: Ubuntu 11.04 \n \l
[21:26] <reisio> atannus: oh that, right sorry
[21:26] <reisio> I thought the point of debootstrap was that it wasn't susceptible to the issues of automated installers
[21:26] <nvz> reisio: its like 5min or so roughly I think its semi-random but its not too long after login.
[21:27] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, yes but I have them set to AHCI because I have 6 drives connected to the SATA ports as well as the optical and if I set it to IDE then they are not hotswapable or at least some of them are not (but I will give it a try after this new fresh install) and see
[21:27] <xpress> madmax_: or say me how to upload it on internet ..
[21:27] <nvz> reisio: right now I am using screen on tty1 with irssi.. thinking about installing ssh so I can at least get in remotely
[21:27] <atannus> reisio, I'm no expert, but I generally get around issues with google and docs... not thins though. didnt know debian/ubuntu even had a RSOD! lol
[21:27]  * jaimef ponders qt 4.7 on lucid
[21:27] <madmax_> xpress: you'll need an account with someting like picassa or photobucket
[21:28] <atannus> I cant rule out hardware, but I'm dismissing it as winxp , vista and 07 install fine.
[21:28] <xpress> madmax_: man i cant do that with my slow internet :/ just acsept it i am not a hacker or something like taht :/
[21:28] <flummy_> xpress: http://666kb.com/
[21:28] <atannus> I have not tried different distros...
[21:28] <atannus> only debian and ubuntu...
[21:29] <reisio> atannus: have you tried using a USB stick?
[21:29] <madmax_> xpress: sorry, I will not accept files from IRC
[21:29] <xpress> madmax_: i made it with 666kb.com =)
[21:29] <atannus> reisio, no... you're thinking the cd-rom?
[21:29] <xpress> w8
[21:29] <atannus> reisio, the driver, I mean...
[21:29] <reisio> atannus: could be
[21:30] <xpress> madmax_: http://666kb.com/i/bxqpazlnoa5f5n276.jpg
[21:30] <flummy_> hehe
[21:30] <atannus> reisio how come it works for everything else (windows shit?)
[21:30] <reisio> the device, the driver for it, the CDs themselves, how you're burning them, how the BIOS manages it
[21:30] <reisio> atannus: probably because the person who assembled the computer did so with only Windows in mind, for starters
[21:30] <reisio> atannus: easier to fix after you're installed
[21:30] <atannus> reisio, I... honestly don't think I'm burning the cds wrong... They work fine on other machines!
[21:31] <reisio> atannus: okay that's one out of a big list I just gave :p
[21:31] <flummy_> xpress: is that spanish or portugese or...?=
[21:31] <atannus> reisio, lol...
[21:31] <nvz>  there is nothing really in the logs indicating a problem other than "*ERROR* invalid framebuffer id" in syslog and kern.log from one of the times it hung
[21:31] <xpress> spanish
[21:31] <flummy_> cool :)
[21:31] <nvz> did it both on the usb stick I installed with and on the install twice
[21:31] <madmax_> the missing toolbar controls have nothing to do with the wifi config file in that post
[21:31] <xpress> ^^
[21:31] <xpress> madmax_: so how i fix it :/
[21:32] <xpress> and the desktop missing ..
[21:32] <atannus> reisio, damn... it is a toshiba laptop with oem windows vista...
[21:32] <madmax_> xpress: what file did you delete?
[21:32] <madmax_> xpress: what command did you run
[21:32] <xpress> madmax_: i didnt ..
[21:32] <reisio> atannus: just try with a USB stick, it might work
[21:32] <atannus> reisio, but I have never ever ever ever had a problem with ubuntu...
[21:32] <reisio> atannus: and even if it doesn't work, you know more
[21:32] <atannus> reisio, so how do I go about this? I probably have to make a bootable usb, right?
[21:32] <epona> is there a command I can use to install a file from a website
[21:32] <flummy_> xpress: i really don't know anything about gnome, but it seems you are running gnome (not unity) - i have no idea, but try to start nautilus in that black terminal in the right bottom corner
[21:32] <epona> like a tarball
[21:33] <reisio> atannus: yes, you can use unetbootin
[21:33] <reisio> atannus: on Linux or Windows
[21:33] <reisio> epona: a tarball of what?
[21:33] <xpress> i have nautilus ;)
[21:33] <atannus> im on linux right now... on another pc
[21:33] <epona> a tarball of django
[21:33] <reisio> atannus: k, unetbootin should be in your repos
[21:33] <epona> or some source code
[21:33] <reisio> epona: most distros provide django
[21:33] <madmax_> xpress: when you came back to the chat, you said you deleted a file
[21:33] <epona> or a text file
[21:33] <nvz> me goes back to X with ssh running to wait for the freeze
[21:33] <reisio> epona: is there some reason you want to compile it?
[21:33] <flummy_> xpress: hmm i thought maybe it's an imitation of windows, where explorer.exe handles the background/desktop :P
[21:33] <xpress> aa
[21:33] <madmax_> xpress: show me history
[21:34] <epona> just for future reference
[21:34] <atannus> reisio, installing as we chat... ;)
[21:34] <epona> Im looking for a command that can install a file from a website
[21:34] <epona> I think subversion can do it
[21:34] <epona> which I installed
[21:34] <reisio> epona: most tarballs come with instructions
[21:34] <xpress> madmax_: i deleted the ath9k.conf
[21:34] <epona> but it gives me some errors
[21:34] <flummy_> epona: "install file from website" is a very untechnical description ^^
[21:34] <xpress> from /etc/modprobe.d/
[21:35] <reisio> epona: this is the general process, however: http://www.google.com/search?q=configure%20make%20install
[21:35] <epona> yea, I don't know very much how to do it flummy_  :(
[21:35] <flummy_> ah!
[21:35] <flummy_> xpress: you cant move the windows, can you
[21:35] <flummy_> xpress: i think your window manager died
[21:35] <xpress> i can
[21:35] <flummy_> xpress: try starting compiz in your terminal
[21:35] <epona> no, reisio
[21:35] <flummy_> oh
[21:35] <flummy_> ok
[21:35] <epona> I don't have the file
[21:35] <epona> its on a website
[21:35] <xpress> flummy_: i will love you forever
[21:35] <reisio> epona: eh? :p
[21:35] <flummy_> xpress: what about trying compiz --replace
[21:36] <epona> like something you can click and download
[21:36] <flummy_> xpress: i like spanish boys :)
[21:36] <epona> but I can't click it through a terminal
[21:36] <xpress> flummy_: :D you fixed it :P
[21:36] <flummy_> cool :)
[21:37] <flummy_> xpress: the window manager is the component of the X11 windowing system that handles resizing and moving and the so called "decoration" of windows
[21:37] <flummy_> decoration of windows are those minimize/resize buttons
[21:37] <xpress> but when i close the terminal my desktop picture disappear again :D ..
[21:37] <flummy_> and it seems your window manager died for some reason // this shouldn't happen
[21:37] <flummy_> xpress: nohup compiz &
[21:37] <flummy_> with the &
[21:38] <flummy_> nohup detaches the following command from the terminal
[21:38] <flummy_> and & places it in the "background", without being dependent on the console
[21:38] <cwillu> flummy_, compiz & disown is prettier :p
[21:38] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, ok so I have done a fresh install (pre any updates now) and its working but this is also pre using the asus ati propriatary driver
[21:38] <flummy_> evilbass: didn't know about disown
[21:38] <cwillu> (doesn't leave the nohup.out file in the current directory)
[21:38] <xpress> shows me that ( xpress@xpress:~$ nohup: se ignora la entrada y se añade la salida a «nohup.out» )
[21:38] <madmax_> xpress: did you follow the instructions for creating the ath9k.conf for Natty?
[21:38] <flummy_> cwillu: tell me more
[21:38] <xpress> madmax_: yes
[21:38] <flummy_> is disown in his own package?
[21:39] <cwillu> flummy_, no, bash builtin
[21:39] <flummy_> hw@hq:~$ apt-cache search disown
[21:39] <flummy_> hw@hq:~$
[21:39] <flummy_> cwillu: oooooh.
[21:39] <xpress> madmax_: and i didnt had the toolblar on the restart neither internet so i deleted it
[21:39] <crash1hd> ActionParsnip, the video driver stops me from using unity (which I know is normal) but still wondering
[21:39] <reisio> it's a shell built-in
[21:39] <reisio> not sure how it applies, though
[21:39] <madmax_> xpress: with just options ath9k nohwcrypt=1
[21:39] <xpress> madmax_: yes...
[21:39] <flummy_> what are plantillas?
[21:39] <flummy_> little plants? no?
[21:39] <flummy_> hehe
[21:40] <madmax_> xpress: and after that, you had no wifi?
[21:40] <flummy_> ok i think i can guess the ruler in the plantillas icon
[21:41] <drahst> is there any way to make virtbuilder use a specific img file? I created a pre-allocated file to help with i/o, I'd like to have the vm that is created to use it
[21:44] <atannus> reisio, you know what sucks? the satellite wont boot from usb...
[21:44] <xpress> flummy_: i have the toolblar but my desktop is disappearing
[21:45] <atannus> reisio, nm, it does too.
[21:45] <xpress> flummy_: and is so strange toolblar .. :/
[21:45] <xpress> flummy_: can u enter in my computer with teamviewer or something ?
[21:45] <flummy_> xpress: sorry no time
[21:45] <xpress> flummy_: ah no problem =)
[21:45] <flummy_> xpress: you can try to save your work and kill your X11 (gui, graphical) session
[21:46] <xpress> flummy_: how ?
[21:46] <flummy_> hm :)
[21:46] <flummy_> i think ubuntu disabled the hotkey for that per default
[21:46] <flummy_> it used to be ctrl+alt+backspace
[21:46] <flummy_> but it's probably disabled to not annoy new users
[21:46] <cwillu> fluido, plus you can just use the magic sysrq-k
[21:46] <phibxr> fluido, who frequently tap that combination for the giggles. ;)
[21:47] <cwillu> more reliable anyway, being implemented in the kernel :p
[21:47] <cwillu> also, damn tab completion
[21:47]  * cwillu pokes flummy_ with a stick
[21:47] <madmax_> xpress: <ctrl>+F2, login, sudo gdm restart
[21:47] <phibxr> cwillu, agreed. :D
[21:47] <flummy_> ^^
[21:47] <cwillu> madmax_, why do that, when sysrq-k does it without the extra password?
[21:48] <flummy_> *trying hard not to press sysRq k*
[21:48] <atannus> reisio, I got the little ubuntu icon with the dots underneath (loading thingy), now it jumped into a black screen and frooze. No mouse, no nothing...
[21:48] <madmax_> cwillu: didn't know about that.
[21:48] <xpress> madmax_: man can you please enter somehow in my computer and fix that please :/
[21:49] <recon69_lap> there firefox window shutting down, but staying in memory and stopping you opening firefox again
[21:49] <xpress> madmax_: i will install teamviewer if its nessesary
[21:49] <atannus> reisio, when I hit the power buton, it unloads... this is odd.
[21:50] <recon69_lap> have to kill firefox process
[21:50] <madmax_> xpress: i am only able to chat at this time.  kids are home and have my attention. i can only give advice in chat
[21:50] <flummy_> kids!
[21:50] <atannus> reisio, do you think this could be related to the notebook being off a network? it shouldn't matter, should it???
[21:51] <madmax_> flummy: yep, 2 kids, single father
[21:51] <flummy_> o.O
[21:51] <xpress> madmax_: well no problem =) look what i found when i tryied to put (compiz --replace) .. = ( compiz (core) - Error: Plugin 'text' not loaded.)
[21:51] <flummy_> maybe not important (dont know)
[21:53] <madmax_> xpress: i wonder if compiz did not load something properly on your last reboot.  i had a lot of issues with it on my netbook, i wound up turning off the effects
[21:53] <flummy_> xpress: if i had time to listen, i would ask "what did you change prior to the disappearance of the window manager (window "decorations", background, etc)
[21:54] <flummy_> xpress: did you try killing your session like madmax_ suggested?
[21:54] <flummy_> 23:47 < madmax_> xpress: <ctrl>+F2, login, sudo gdm restart
[21:54] <xpress> ctrl + F2 didnt work
[21:54] <flummy_> ic
[21:54] <flummy_> xpress: oh
[21:54] <flummy_> xpress: try control+alt+F2
[21:54] <Solved> I'm trying to use the program 'playonlinux' to play Age Of Empires III, but when I click on Age Of Empires, and then hit play, nothing happens. Any ideas?
[21:54] <flummy_> ctrl+F2 really shouldn't work
[21:54] <xpress> i tryed apt-get update
[21:54] <flummy_> xpress: try control+alt+F2
[21:55] <flummy_> STOP
[21:55] <madmax_> xpress: wait
[21:55] <flummy_> remember the following commands before you do that
[21:55] <wolfmitchell> Lol I'm here on webchat without a desktop enviroment running :D
[21:55] <xpress> stop what ?
[21:55] <flummy_> xpress: before you press control+F2, remember the following
[21:55] <madmax_> xpress: you need to know the whole command, and how to get back
[21:55] <flummy_> because you will switch to a black and white text mode "console"
[21:55] <flummy_> in fullscreen
[21:56] <xpress> and what i have to remember ^^
[21:56] <flummy_> (if it works)
[21:56] <flummy_> login with username/password at the provided prompts and type sudo gdm restart
[21:56] <flummy_> if it does not work, try alt+f6 or alt+f7 or alt+f8
[21:56] <madmax_> xpress: but first, cwillu posted how to restart the desktop without switching consoles, did you try that?
[21:56] <Solved> I'm trying to use the program 'playonlinux' to play a game, but when I click on the game, and then hit run, nothing happens. Any playonlinux people out there that can help me?
[21:56] <flummy_> to switch back to the graphical X11 systme
[21:56] <xpress> w8 to write on some paper =)
[21:57] <slinzex> Why I can't turn off 100% my screen of the laptop. When I run slock, or xset dps 0... ... it's like 2 secs completely off. Then it turns on partially. It's look like grey screen. I'd like power off totally. Is it possible?
[21:58] <cwillu> slinzex, try "sleep 3s; xset dpms off"
[21:59] <madmax_> xpress: <Alt>-<PrtSc/SysRq>-<k>      alt prtscrn k
[21:59] <flummy_> *trying VERY hard not to press sysRq k*
[21:59] <cwillu> warning:  other keystrokes of the alt-sysrq-* nature can cause damage
[22:00] <flummy_> apart from SysRq s
[22:00] <cwillu> flummy_, -k is just like ctrl-alt-backspace
[22:00] <flummy_> cwillu: very cool.
[22:00] <cwillu> flummy_, there's several that are safe.  And they're right next to several that aren't :p
[22:00] <flummy_> cwillu: but i'd like to keep my 20 xterms :)
[22:00] <madmax_> cwillu: lol, now I need to learn more keyboard shortcuts
[22:00] <cwillu> alt-sysrq-? will dump the list to dmegs
[22:00] <cwillu> flummy_, do it from a different vterm :p
[22:01] <flummy_> cwillu: no.
[22:01] <flummy_> cwillu: ^1
[22:01] <flummy_> cwillu: ^^
[22:01] <cwillu> flummy_, it only affects the current vterm
[22:01]  * flummy_ not brave enough.
[22:01] <flummy_> maybe next month
[22:01] <flummy_> after the next reboot
[22:01] <madmax_> cwillu:1912 possibilities... nice
[22:02] <flummy_> xpress: dropkick this is skybird with an a-dash-alpha message in two parts, break break
[22:03] <xpress_> madmax_: are you here ?
[22:03] <omido> where can i find a pdf file of the book" the official ubuntu book" ? is it free?
[22:03] <madmax_> xpress: yes
[22:03] <madmax_> xpress: but your not?
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> omido: it's a regular book in the bookshop, not free
[22:04] <flummy_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReJ3RltihME&t=155
[22:05] <omido> damn
[22:05] <xpress_> madmax_: it showed me that eror (failed to acquiere org.gnome.Display manager ) and (Could not acquiere :bailing out )
[22:05] <faz> omido: pirate bay
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> flummy_: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for that kind of fancy videos
[22:05] <omido> where can i find complete documentation like startup guide like what opensuse has ? i want pdf
[22:06] <flummy_> MonkeyDust: i think i will rather part #ubuntu and help someone else, bye
[22:06] <madmax_> xpress: sounds like it's not loading the display manager on top of the xserver.  have you only rebooted the one time after removing the ath.conf file?
[22:07] <xpress_> yes only 1 :/
[22:07] <xpress_> madmax_: so do you know how to fix :S
[22:07] <qin> omido: tldp.org/ ubuntu-manual.org/ and google books: http://goo.gl/Nh0ja
[22:08] <madmax_> xpress: try a complete reboot, the file you deleted is not related, I want to see if something just crashed at load
[22:08] <omido> qin: is this free or i should pay for this crap too ?
[22:08] <xpress_> i rebooted 3 times :/
[22:08] <xpress_> madmax_: i rebooted 3 times
[22:08] <qin> omido: Two first linke totaly free, google book have many free to read, pay to get.
[22:09] <madmax_> xpress: you just said you rebooted 1 time?
[22:09] <joar> Using the original Terminal in Ubuntu Natty, when doing CTRL + LARROW, the cursor doesn't jump a word to the left but inserts a ;5D instead.
[22:09] <xpress_> madmax_: i think that is better reinstall linux :/ ... ?
[22:09] <g0rs> anybody using compiz here? animations aren't working even though i've enabled them.
[22:09] <joar> This is undesirable behaviour to me.
[22:09] <owner> OMG I was using Ubuntu 10.04 since its release NEVER had a problem then I upgraded to 11.04, what an Udder piece of SHIT, locks up All the time names in Nautilus disappear WTF
[22:09] <omido> why dont ubuntu provide free documentation like openSUSE has ?
[22:10] <reisio> it's 'utter'
[22:10] <omido> qin: why dont ubuntu provide free documentation like openSUSE has ?
[22:10] <xpress_> madmax_: but after the first time i used ctrl + F2 twice
[22:10] <reisio> omido: it does
[22:10] <g0rs> qin: do you use compiz?
[22:10] <madmax_> xpress: that is not a reboot, it just restarts the x server
[22:11] <qin> g0rs: Yes.
[22:11] <xpress_> madmax_: and how to reboot ?
[22:11] <flummy_> sync and umount first
[22:11] <madmax_> xpress: shutdown, then turn it back on
[22:11] <g0rs> qin: are animations working for you? i've enabled them in ccsm but there doesn't seem to any effects.
[22:11] <madmax_> xpress: or, sudo reboot
[22:12] <qin> g0rs: No idea, no x atm.
[22:13] <wiredfool> I'm trying to figure out why my machine is hard freezing -- with 10.04, a fresh install of 10.04, and 11.04.  I can reliably trigger it with vmbuilder, where it dies in a select call. (but it dies in other cases as well, normally after 10 --15 minutes of excercise, but 20 hours of idle can do it too)
[22:13] <omido> reisio:  i mean something like SUSE's . free to read . free to download . free to distribute . this is an example for openSUSE 11.4 : http://www.novell.com/documentation/opensuse114/
[22:13] <reisio> omido: ubuntu has that
[22:13] <qin> g0rs: Did you edit setting per window?
[22:13] <reisio> so does every other popular distro
[22:13] <Tired_> Hi.  If I install Beta 2 tonight, will it offer me an upgrade to the release tomorrow in Update Manager?
[22:13] <omido> reisio:  can you please give me the link ?
[22:13] <xpress> madmax_: i didd it it starts with no crashes
[22:13] <reisio> omido: what info are you looking for?
[22:13] <g0rs> qin: yes, settings such as open,close,minimize
[22:13] <madmax_> xpress: desktop is all okay?
[22:14] <xpress> madmax_: and it shows me my desktop for about 2 seconds then disappears
[22:14] <wiredfool> it's not the install, seeing as it does it in 3. It's not video, since I found the vmbuilder crash with the video card pulled. Bonnie++ on either disk runs fine, and I can nc at gigabit speeds for 20+ gigs without a crash
[22:14] <omido> reisio:  info like that link. full documentation including startup guide .
[22:14] <wiredfool> and memtest has run for a day, and it still works
[22:14] <wiredfool> What am I missing?
[22:14] <reisio> omido: go to ubuntu.com, hit Support at the top
[22:15] <Tired_> Or will I need to reinstall from scratch to go from Beta 2 to release?
[22:15] <Nach0z> Hey I've got a question for yall, I know how to use sudo and stuff. But, I can sudo su from an account, and do su <otheruser> from there with no issues... is there a way I can make myself able to "su <otheruser>" without having to sudo su first?
[22:15] <madmax_> xpress: show me ls /var/log/Xorg*
[22:15] <xpress> madmax_: xpress@xpress:~$ ls /var/log/Xorg*
[22:15] <xpress> /var/log/Xorg.0.log  /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[22:16] <reisio> Nach0z: if you know the user's password
[22:16] <reisio> Nach0z: su - user
[22:16] <madmax_> now show me tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:16] <qin> g0rs: Is there any "!" in rules?
[22:16] <Nach0z> su: authentication failure
[22:16] <g0rs> qin: where the ! rules?
[22:16] <reisio> Nach0z: oh, might have to be in the wheel group
[22:16] <xpress> can you give me the site for paste ?
[22:16] <Nach0z> uh. wheel group?
[22:17] <reisio> sudo gpasswd
[22:17] <nzit> Why does it insert ;5D into Ubuntu Terminal instead of jumping a word to the left? This works fine in Windows.
[22:17] <qin> g0rs: Recal that animation was set by window class, title, etc... Have you edit those?
[22:17] <reisio> Nach0z: actually you shouldn't have to be, nevermind
[22:17] <g0rs> qin: there are logical oerations on windnows and they contain & and ! , so yes.
[22:17] <Nach0z> well, turns out I just had the password wrong. Is there a way I can skip the authentication step?
[22:17] <airtonix> Nach0z: lol? no
[22:17] <madmax_> xpress: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:18] <Nach0z> like, su <otheruser> from root doesn't make me need to auth
[22:18] <reisio> Nach0z: because root already has all privileges
[22:18] <g0rs> qin: here is an example: ((type=Normal | Unknown) | name=sun-awt-X11-XFramePeer | name=sun-awt-X11-XDialogPeer) & !(role=toolTipTip | role=qtooltip_label) & !(type=Normal & override_redirect=1) & !(name=gnome-screensaver)
[22:18] <reisio> authenticating is pointless
[22:18] <reisio> you can do anything as root
[22:18] <xpress> madmax_: http://pastebin.com/Ztqxi1td
[22:19] <Nach0z> hm. well. inconvenient but I guess su - <user> works better than having to ssh to localhost...
[22:19] <Nach0z> thanks then.
[22:19] <reisio> ssh to localhost, heh
[22:19] <qin> g0rs: Above missing )
[22:19] <reisio> Nach0z: the fact that you want to do this suggests your entire approach is likely suboptimal
[22:20] <xpress> madmax_: well ?
[22:20] <madmax_> xpress: i am waiting for my imac to boot, it has xubuntu, i want to see if i can find the logs
[22:20] <qin> g0rs: No, my bad
[22:20] <Nach0z> reisio I keep different services and programs under different users on my server so that if one gets compromised, it's easier to contain
[22:20] <xpress> madmax_: ok
[22:20] <g0rs> qin: is it at the end?  i think it misses ( and )
[22:20] <reisio> Nach0z: but why would you need to log in as a service's user
[22:20] <g0rs> qin: is it at the end?  i think it misses ( and )  in the second expresssion after &!
[22:20] <Nach0z> 'cuz sometimes Unreal and Eggdrop need rebooted, reisio ... or other stuff
[22:21] <reisio> if it's a service you should be able to use the init system
[22:21] <Nach0z> or, config changes, more programs, dunno. It changes over time
[22:21] <Jonathon> Anyone familiar with pam_group.so?
[22:21] <Nach0z> lol not that kind of service
[22:21] <reisio> Jonathon: owes me $5
[22:21] <g0rs> qin: does it miss a ) at the end?
[22:21] <reisio> Nach0z: so not a service
[22:21] <Nach0z> I just mean different programs really. eggdrop, unreal, qwebirc,
[22:21] <Nach0z> yeah not a services.
[22:21] <reisio> k...
[22:21] <Nach0z> *service. bleh can't type today
[22:22] <reisio> you could make it happen
[22:22] <reisio> but it would work against the extra security
[22:22] <xpress> madmax_: but it never thowed me this problem and i turn off the computer every day ..
[22:22] <Nach0z> yeah, but only one account has sudo and it's got a longarse password .... I prefer to just be able to su - user
[22:22] <xpress> madmax_: trowed *
[22:22] <Nach0z> better than ssh localhost -l user -p 443 like I normally have to...
[22:23] <reisio> Nach0z: right, but sudo is configurable
[22:23] <g0rs> qin: any ideas ?!
[22:23] <reisio> Nach0z: you could make an alias to your ssh
[22:23] <Jonathon> Am I correct in that pam_group.so will make the calling user a member of a group temporarily?
[22:23] <Nach0z> yeah, I did that once, but then realized that when I was ssh'ing to someone elses server, the -p 443 was ... uh... unnecessary
[22:24] <Nach0z> su - user really is faster XD
[22:24] <reisio> :p
[22:24] <xpress> madmax_: are you here ?
[22:24] <reisio> or are you in thunderdome
[22:25] <Nach0z> lol reisio
[22:25] <madmax_> xpress: i am, you'll have to be patient, the imac is SLOW
[22:25] <qin> g0rs: No, not really. Let me start x
[22:26] <xpress> madmax_: i am =) i go to smoke
[22:26] <g0rs> qin: thanks
[22:27] <xpress> madmax_ , and you dont acsept files from icc couse there are people sending virus :S ?
[22:28] <madmax_> xpress: that is one of the reason's, yes
[22:28] <g0rs> qin: please yell after you're back :0)
[22:28] <reisio> xpress: imageshack.us
[22:28] <Mneumonic> what time zone is ubuntu in.  I'm having trouble figuring out when 11.10 is releasing
[22:29] <Mneumonic> says midnight but doesn't say the time zone
[22:29] <xpress> reisio , madmax_ .. :/ i would not acsept files too :D !
[22:30] <reisio> I do, but it's usually a big hassle to use dcc instead of a hosting service
[22:30] <xpress> i didnt understood you .D
[22:30] <xpress> so bad english i have =(
[22:31] <madmax_> now show me tail -100 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:31] <reisio> that's okay, my castellano is awful
[22:31] <xpress> :D
[22:31] <madmax_> xpress: show me tail -100 /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[22:32] <enrolics> hi everyone
[22:32] <BarkingFish> Mneumonic, I'd assume that's 13th October, Midnight UTC/GMT - it's 11.30PM here now, and there's no sign of it. I may be wrong.
[22:32] <reisio> hi enrolics
[22:32] <enrolics> I love the lastest version of U
[22:32] <qin> g0rs: Dunno, can you try to use simple-ccsm in meanwhile.
[22:32] <enrolics> hi reisio
[22:32] <reisio> enrolics: what do you love about it
[22:32] <BarkingFish> so I'd imagine the release is in about 90 minutes time
[22:32] <g0rs> qin: okay i'll try simple-ccsm
[22:33] <enrolics> well just the whole interface
[22:33] <zykotick9> BarkingFish, it could be ANY time on the 13th
[22:33] <enrolics> I expected to have problems when installing it on my new netbook, but everything works
[22:33] <BarkingFish> zykotick9, Mneumonic> what time zone is ubuntu in.  I'm having trouble figuring out when 11.10 is releasing
 says midnight but doesn't say the time zone
[22:33] <enrolics> nearly everything!
[22:33] <bad_cables> ok, i solved the problem of ubuntu live disks crashing with a Dell D820... you have to upgrade the bios to vA07 or higher
[22:33] <xpress_> madmax_ : sorry my computer bugged i couldnt write
[22:33] <reisio> bad_cables: fun
[22:33] <zykotick9> BarkingFish, the time is never specified
[22:34] <reisio> bad_cables: Dell sucks with their BIOSes
[22:34] <g0rs> qin: there are dependencies issues with simple-ccsm . it doesn't list any of them.
[22:34] <reisio> A07 sounds like it's from several years ago itself
[22:34] <BarkingFish> Well it must mention it somewhere, or I doubt Mneumonic would have found it, zykotick9 :)
[22:34] <brett__> thisisthecountdown says one day
[22:34] <bad_cables> but now i have a T-Mobile dongle with a usb CDRom that is blocking the device in the netmanager, how do i solve this without the internet?
[22:34] <zykotick9> BarkingFish, really?  they specifically said midnight?  wow.
[22:34] <reisio> makes it easier to count and cheer over downloads
[22:34] <reisio> even though people _should_ be updating from existing installs :p
[22:34] <Mneumonic> the only thing i saw was a countdown that ends in 1 day and 6 hours....which isnt the 13th anywhere
[22:34] <xpress_> madmax_: http://pastebin.com/FLPSbknR
[22:35] <BarkingFish> Mneumonic, Would you mind sharing the URL where you found the info about it being released at midnight please?
[22:35] <enrolics> anyone else got a HP Mini
[22:35] <enrolics> ?
[22:35] <bad_cables> how do you install Usb-Modeswitch installation without a network connection?
[22:35] <reisio> enrolics: I have a cable for one
[22:35] <Mneumonic> the ubuntu release party room says "it will be released at 23:59:59
[22:35] <xpress_> madmax_: are you here ?
[22:35] <enrolics> Wonder if one can get the "quickweb" button on the mini to work under ubuntu
[22:35] <BarkingFish> zykotick9, There we go. That info is up in the release party channel
[22:35] <bad_cables> this T-mobile dongle with a built in drivers disk is the only way to get on the net
[22:36] <famgod> how do I compile a program from source using apt?
[22:36] <g0rs> qin: a package needs upgradation. I 'll take a look at it later for now.
[22:36] <xpress_> nqkoi  balgarin ima li :?
[22:36] <reisio> famgod: what program
[22:37] <zykotick9> !checkinstall | famgod this might help if you're compiling stuff
[22:37] <qin> g0rs: To get animation working you need to have proper rules, try to put as most top rule (type=Normal)  with effect of your like.
[22:37] <reisio> dear lord
[22:37] <arand> famgod: apt does not compile code,  however it will get you the source package using "apt-get source packagename"
[22:38] <reisio> well there's apt-src
[22:38] <madmax_> xpress: i am here, just busy.  i did not see anything in the log that can identify your problem yet
[22:38] <g0rs> qin: it's usually normal | unknown or normal | dialog
[22:38] <xpress_> reisio can u help me ?
[22:38] <reisio> ?
[22:39] <xpress_> reisio: compiz (core) - Error: Plugin 'text' not loaded.
[22:39] <famgod> got another question..i just removed bind9, then i manually deleted /etc/bind/...now when I reinstall bind9, it doesnt install the config files...help :P
[22:39] <enrolics> keep up the good work guys
[22:39] <enrolics> cheers
[22:39] <xpress_> reisio: i dont have toobllars and desktop picture .... :/
[22:41] <qin> g0rs: (type=Normal | Dialog | ModalDialog | Unknown) looks ok, but position of rule apparently do matter.
[22:41] <g0rs> qin: i got them working. It was to change otions in a drop down box for each window operation such as  open,close , minimize
[22:42] <qin> g0rs: drop down box? Where?
[22:42] <arand> famgod: which config files specifically? If you use "apt-file search /etc/bind" you would see what packages would install what files in that directory, some of the files may be auto-generated? user created?
[22:43] <g0rs> qin: i had to select a type of animation in each window operation .  Anyone?
[22:45] <Jason_> Zacarias: are there any PPD drivers on Epson'
[22:45] <Jason_> s
[22:45] <Jason_> site
[22:46] <deebee_> Zacarias: just explain your exact problem to the room, and anyone who can help will answer
[22:46] <Palace_chan> is there something similar to the ldd command i can use to check which .a (static libs) im building with ?
[22:46] <hilacha> does someone knows if already exists oneiric documentation?
[22:47] <set_killer> hey guys. i have messed up the sound settings on 11.10. deleting ~/.pulse does not help. How to reset to default all sound config files?
[22:47] <famgod> arand, the files are auto-generated, i just ran apt-file, and it says the bind9 package is the package that will install the files....and when I install the package, it doesnt install the config files
[22:47] <famgod> when i first installed bind9 it installed the configs
[22:47] <famgod> now that i uninstalled, manually removed them, and then installed it again
[22:47] <famgod> it doesnt give me the config files again :(
[22:49] <Jason_> I somehow managed to delete my network icon off the status bar. Is there anyway to bring it back?
[22:49] <BigOldCar> Hello, gang.  Can anyone point me to a step-by-step on configuring my ATI Mach64 GT video card with Lucid?
[22:49] <arand> famgod: It may be the case that you removed the package but did not purge it, in which case it assumes that the config files are still there, and don't overwrite them...
[22:49] <deebee_> famgod: try sudo apt-get --purge remove bind9
[22:49] <deebee_> famgod: and then reinstall
[22:49] <BigOldCar> I got it working in Hardy, but upgrade killed my system so I'm working with a new install.
[22:50] <famgod> deebee_ thank you :)
[22:50] <Nach0z> Is there any real advantage of using sudo -i rather than sudo su?
[22:50] <set_killer> deebee_: how to reinstall pulseaudio and to remove all config files ?
[22:51] <set_killer> on 11.10
[22:51] <pangolin> !11.10
[22:51] <recon69_lap> set_killer have you tried using alsamixer, can be handy when trouble shooting sound
[22:52] <deebee_> set_killer: sorry, don't know too much when it comes to ubuntu desktop
[22:52] <set_killer> i have applied some effects with audacious, but unfortunatly they have applied to the whole system, not only to audacious
[22:52] <Nach0z> set_killer: you could try sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio
[22:52] <Nach0z> that MAY remove the puslaudio configs
[22:53] <xpress> reisio: are you here ?
[22:53] <hilacha> Jason_, try nm-applet
[22:54] <xpress> can anybody helps ? i dont have toolblars like for exit from some program neither a desktop picture  :/
[22:54] <xpress> and i cant move the windows ..
[22:55] <set_killer> Nach0z: is this going to remove pulse... or it will reinstall it?
[22:55] <hilacha> xpress, are you running gnome?
[22:55] <Nach0z> Removes it, to my knowledge
[22:55] <xpress> yes
[22:56] <xpress> hilacha: yes
[22:56] <deebee_> xpress: what were you doing before it went wrong? is it a fresh install?
[22:57] <hilacha> xpress, try metacity &
[22:57] <Jason_> ah
[22:57] <Jason_> that did it
[22:57] <xpress> debee_ :i was making ath9k.conf in /etc/modprobe.d/ for better wifi connection and on the reboot this happened
[22:57] <Jason_> is there an icon I can make to execute that command?
[22:58] <Jason_> not an icon
[22:58] <Jason_> a script
[22:58] <set_killer> Nach0z: thanks, after removing config files with PURGE, i reinstalled pulseaudio with sudo apt-get install  ubuntu-desktop
[22:58] <Nach0z> so... did it work? lol
[22:59] <set_killer> yes :]
[22:59] <Nach0z> awesome. I feel smart now
[22:59] <utgt> is ubuntu 11.10 out yet?
[22:59] <utgt> what is new in ubuntu 11.10?
[22:59] <deebee_> xpress: not sure I can help you with that, but an IRC tip - type the first few letters of someone's nick and press Tab to get the rest. Makes replying a lot easier and error free :)
[22:59] <xangua> utgt: can you read the topic¿
[22:59] <qin> utgt: /join #ubuntu+1
[23:00] <set_killer> ubuntu-desktop just installed missing packets after the purge
[23:00] <arand> Nach0z: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6188826&postcount=4 shows the differences
[23:00] <xpress> hilacha: that worked but i now can move the windows but cant have desktop picture neither options for put some ..
[23:00] <Nach0z> thanks arand
[23:01] <Nach0z> hm... that's 'zactly what I was lookin for
[23:01] <hilacha> xpress, i know until here. :)
[23:01] <xpress> deebee_, wow thanks =)
[23:02] <D_Russ> possible to upgrade from 11.04 32 bit to 11.10 64 bit?
[23:02] <xpress> hilacha, ok thanks =)
[23:02] <BarkingFish> !+1 D_Russ
[23:02] <Sphearion> best part of 11.10.. native adaptec 6405 aacraid drives.. no more wasted time compiling that module for installs... yay!
[23:02] <qin> D_Russ: No
[23:02] <BarkingFish> !+1 | D_Russ
[23:02] <qin> BarkingFish: He asked same in #ubuntu+1
[23:03] <BarkingFish> ok qin, thanks
[23:03] <hilacha> Sphearion, are you talking about embedded adaptec driver in the kernel?
[23:03] <D_Russ> no answer in +1
[23:03] <BarkingFish> I'm not keeping up with +1's release party, or the channel, qin - too silly for me :)
[23:03] <Zacarias> Ok. II downloaded the printer drivers from the Avasys website (http://avasys.jp/eng/linux_driver/download/lsb/epson-inkjet/escp/) and I tried to compile from source (the deb packages were not available for ppc. But I couldn't do it with the usual commands (./configure, make and make install). There were some errors. I connected the printer with an ethernet cable and it was identified as a network printer, which was perfect. But then it began looking for
[23:03] <Zacarias> drivers, and it said there was something like an epson-escp- wrapper missing. Before I had already tried with the USB cable, it asked me for the ppd and I pointed to the one in the package directory. Apparently it was succesfuly installed, but it was always asking for the filter which couldn't be found. I tried to configure and install using the filter directory that came with the whole package, but there were always errors, first with the configure (it
[23:03] <Zacarias> missed a prefix, I guess) and then with make (error in the Makefile). I looked for support (Ubuntu forums, Avasys website and forums, Epson support for my country), but without success. I have the printer installed on two Mac OS systems (on another drive on the same computer and on a Macbook). But I don't want to change OS each time I have to print something!
[23:03] <FloodBot1> Zacarias: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:03] <Sphearion> hilacha, i mean i just installed the daily on one of my servers with that card in it and I didn't have to add steps for it to see the arrays. soo nice
[23:04] <Sphearion> i think there was the later end of the 2.x kernels that had support for it to. but not during install of 11.04 as it was 1 kernel version too old
[23:05] <hilacha> Sphearion, cool. i work with raid cards in linux, but we uses debian
[23:05] <qin> Zacarias: What epson is it?
[23:05] <Sphearion> We are an Ubuntu shop.
[23:05] <hilacha> i dont know if already there are support to that board in squeeze
[23:05] <Sphearion> and those cards used to give me hell
[23:06] <hilacha> the problem is recompile the kernel to support it?
[23:06] <JamesMc> so, is 11.10 out today without an RC?
[23:06] <canard> Ha
[23:06] <JamesMc> stop following me canard, it's creepy
[23:06] <Sphearion> the problem was it was in a rpm from adaptec so during install you had to dkms and alien the package
[23:06] <Sphearion> at least in 11.04
[23:06] <Myrtti> JamesMc: in the next 24 hours, yes
[23:07] <Myrtti> JamesMc: join #ubuntu-release-party for more
[23:07] <hilacha> Sphearion, do you sell hardware for ubuntu? what is your url shop?
[23:07] <JamesMc> Mydoom: is that the official word? I'm really surprised there's been no RC
[23:07] <canard> cheers Myrtti
[23:07] <Sphearion> we don't sell. shop meaning all our servers are ubuntu and our desktops are all ubuntu.
[23:07] <xpress> i dont have background can somebody helps ?
[23:07] <hilacha> is common a rc before a final release in ubuntu releases>
[23:07] <hilacha> ?
[23:07] <Myrtti> JamesMc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[23:08] <Zacarias> FloodBot1: I don't understand
[23:08] <rww> JamesMc: The release team decided not to do RCs for this and future releases unless they change their mind.
[23:08] <xpress> Zacarias, he is a bot :D ..
[23:08] <hilacha> Sphearion, ok :) do you use adaptec 2405?
[23:08] <Zacarias> qin: it's an Epson SX525WD
[23:08] <Sphearion> no only the 6405
[23:09] <Sphearion> and alot of asus pike cards
[23:09] <hilacha> pike cards? what it that?
[23:10] <JamesMc> rww: is there anywhere I can read about the decision? I've been rather concerned with the quality of the last couple of ubuntu releases and while I understand an RC isn't anything special, I still think it's important to have one
[23:10] <Sphearion> a pike is like a manufacturer sas card for asus motherboards. it works like the adaptec. but it uses the motherboard sata connectors. and has a very special connector kinda like a really stretched out PCI
[23:10] <rww> JamesMc: not that I know of
[23:10] <qin> Zacarias: One moment, floodbot told you to keep it brief.
[23:11] <Zacarias> qin: but it was a long story
[23:12] <JamesMc> rww: thanks, I'll hunt around myself and see if I can find something, but I'm surprised I've not heard anything about this before
[23:12] <hilacha> Sphearion, humm. i understood. Intel calls it a zero channel raid board (i guess). we already used that, but a lot time ago, witch scsi.
[23:12] <Sphearion> hilacha, http://us.estore.asus.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2049 thats a pike
[23:13] <canard> JamesMc: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-February/032448.html
[23:14] <recon69_lap> Zacarias: pastebin the output of the ./configure and ./make commands
[23:14] <JamesMc> thanks canard, I'm fairly certain the RC was listed in the release schedule for oneiric though
[23:14] <hilacha> Sphearion, thank you. i didnt about that
[23:16] <Zacarias> recon69_lap: how do I paste bin? Sorry for my ignorance
[23:16] <BarkingFish> !pastebin | Zacarias
[23:16] <RobotBot> does upgrading remove old apps that are not in the new version?
[23:17] <MonkeyDust> Zacarias: for example: ls -l|pastebinit
[23:17] <recon69_lap> recon69_lap: and if the make is huge just paste the end bit
[23:19] <Zacarias> MonkeyDust: for instance, if I want to paste the output of the terminal, I copy it and then what? Sorry
[23:20] <george> anyone here have fios in NJ?
[23:20] <xpress> guys .. i think i fuc*ed the ubuntu :D .. just sayin :P
[23:21] <pedro> Sou novo, tem alguém do Brasil?
[23:21] <xpress> no pero españoles si k hay :D ^^
[23:22] <Pici> !br | pedro
[23:22] <qin> Zacarias: Native driver Epson SX600FW could be worth trying, unless Printers differ to much.
[23:22] <recon69_lap> Zacarias: paste into pastebin and then give us the resulting link
[23:22] <xpress> pedro is just a bot :D !
[23:23] <Zacarias> qin: I'll try it
[23:23] <artzra> hi
[23:23] <Zacarias> recon69_lap: thanks. I'll do that in a moment and give you the result
[23:24] <artzra> i have install ubuntu near seven
[23:24] <pedro>  estou com um problema, baixei uma livraria que ta no formato .tar.gz, alguem pode me falar como instalo?
[23:24] <artzra> i have lose the dualboot
[23:25] <pedro>  estou com um problema, baixei uma livraria que ta no formato .tar.gz, alguem pode me falar como instalo?
[23:25] <hilacha> pedro, cd /usr/local/src
[23:25] <Pici> !br | pedro
[23:26] <hilacha> mv lib.tar.gz /usr/local/src
[23:26] <hilacha> tar xvfz lib.tar.gz
[23:26] <hilacha> cd lib
[23:26] <hilacha> make
[23:26] <hilacha> make install
[23:26] <FloodBot1> hilacha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:26]  * yagoo thinks xar is supposed to succeed tar
[23:27] <pedro> obrigado
[23:27] <yagoo> hilacha, its f before the filename.. --tar xzvf <filename.
[23:27] <pedro> thanks
[23:27] <wenk> question: Is it possible to get 11.04 to stop major updates of firefox ?  I'd like to stick around 6 if I can...
[23:28] <henrik_> how to i join an other server?
[23:28] <yagoo> who's asking this tar question?
[23:28] <yagoo> u dont need to mv the tar.. u can use the -C option..
[23:28] <aeon-ltd> henrik_: that depennds on your irc client
[23:29] <henrik_> aeon_ltd: i just downloaded it from ubuntu software center. xchat - gnome irc chat
[23:30] <D_Russ> i think i will wait a few days before i install 11.10. Now sandra has me a bit worried that me switching to 64 bit will become a problem. maybe i should test it in virtual box first
[23:30] <henrik_> and this my first time using irc in about 10 years
[23:30] <yagoo> henrik_, 2 years or decimal 10 ?
[23:31] <aeon-ltd> henrik_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto#Connecting_to_a_Server
[23:31] <josefig> hello, what is the repository to install gnome-contacts and gnome-sushi ? I upgraded to gnome 3.2 but it says command not found when I try a gnome-contacts
[23:31] <Zacarias> recon69_lap: output for the ./configure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/707052/
[23:31] <henrik_> probably not 10 years. perhaps 101 year in binary, if that's what you mean
[23:31] <henrik_> thanks!
[23:32] <artzra> hi, by chance , can y explain how made a dualboot
[23:32] <Zacarias> recon69_lap: next the make output
[23:33] <yagoo> artzra, if windows is installed.. the ubuntu installer adds an entry to the grub menu (sometimes u may need to do manual interevention if its not added properly)
[23:33] <jaimef> Getting Untrusted packages from ppa.launchpad and wonder if adding the right key would avoid this warning
[23:33] <Zacarias> recon69_lap: make
[23:33] <Zacarias> Makefile:15: *** missing separator.  Stop.
[23:33] <almoxarife> jaimef: it will, but the question then becomes, do you trust the key?
[23:34] <artzra> yayoo, i have install a oneric 11.10 and it s just erase winboot
[23:34] <brightspark> Hi all, I'd appreciate assistance getting 'totem' to play youtube videos using the menu in the sidebar.  I get a dialog box saying 'GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error.'  Terminal output available; thanks in advance.
[23:34] <henrik_> aeon_ltd: that wasn't very useful . it's  definitely not the same version as i'm using
[23:34] <jaimef> yeah guess kubuntu-ppa could be unstrusted
[23:34] <artzra> #ubuntu+1
[23:34] <henrik_> looks completly different
[23:34] <Zacarias> recon69_lap: output for the make: http://paste.ubuntu.com/707056/
[23:35] <mindsystem> hi, i'm looking to setup a local irc at my school for the computer science students. are there any suggested ircd's for this sort of small scale task? forums didn't seem to have much...
[23:35] <Asurah> Hey folks
[23:36] <yagoo> artzra, u still there?
[23:36] <henrik_> aeon_ltd: but thanks anyway. it's 0135 at night here in norway, so i'm going to bed. i'll figure it out tomorrow
[23:36] <Asurah> Can anyone help with a quite crucial problem?
[23:36] <yagoo> !ask
[23:37] <Asurah> Oh well
[23:39] <Asurah> I'm quite new to Ubuntu, tried to install it today, both 64 and 32bit versions (got a 64bit comp), installation goes on perfectly fine, I press the restart button at the end, take the CD out, but it simply gets stuck in boot
[23:39] <Asurah> i.e after BIOS, before actual OS loads.
[23:40] <recon69_lap> Zacarias: don't look like make did anything, readme for driver not much help. why you compiling, cant you install the pre compiled deb file
[23:41] <Zacarias> recon69_lap: no, I'm running power pc, and the deb packages are for other architectures
[23:41] <almoxarife> Asurah: anything else installed on the pc?
[23:42] <Asurah> almoxarife - I've got two HDD, one is the OS which is formatted before Ubuntu installation, other one is data
[23:42] <Asurah> music, video, the whole shabang
[23:44] <yagoo> can someone verify for me.. if its grub2 or grub1 for the default latest ubuntus?
[23:44] <urist_> hello... I have been trying to run Vim on my Ubuntu and it works fine, but I'm wondering how I can open a GUI Vim
[23:45] <BarkingFish> grub2 for the latest versions, yagoo
[23:45] <almoxarife> Asurah: what type of install disc did you use?
[23:45] <Asurah> almoxarife: I just downloaded the .iso from the official site and burned it on a CD..
[23:47] <almoxarife> Asurah: I would suggest you download the 'alternate' version and redo the install, I have never had issues with a ;alternate' but have had with the 'desktop'
[23:47] <BarkingFish> right peeps I'm out for the night, need my sleep.
[23:48] <Asurah> almoxarife - is there any difference for a beginner user like myself?
[23:49] <almoxarife> Asurah: the install or final desktop?
[23:49] <Asurah> almoxarife - both?
[23:50] <Asurah> is there anything I should know about the install?
[23:50] <Asurah> and is there any differences in user experience between alternate and normal versions?
[23:50] <akem> .pdf thumbs works like a charm on Ubuntu, it's awesome / got somuch troubles to get that on Win7.
[23:50] <recon69_lap> Asurah: well, just burn the .iso and boot from it, then run the hardware tests to see if you got problems before installing
[23:51] <almoxarife> Asurah: same desktop will be avail, the alternate comes with more avail drivers for the install, a good thing. the install menu is the same basic one, I also suggest having the machine hardwired if possible to the internet
[23:52] <Asurah> recon69_lap - what do you mean by hardware tests? how can I have hardware failures installing one OS but have no problems on the other one?
[23:52] <urist_> hello... I have been trying to run Vim on my Ubuntu and it works fine, but I'm wondering how I can open a GUI Vim
[23:52] <aeon-ltd> urist_: vim doesn't have a gui but gvim does
[23:52] <wplug_terryg> Anybody here install vsftpd?
[23:52] <Asurah> almoxarife - think I'll try to run it alongside Windows and see if that works. Then I'll download the entire thing again and try it again
[23:53] <urist_> is gvim the same as Vim but in GUI form?
[23:53] <histo> urist_: yes
[23:53] <almoxarife> Asurah: you said there was no other OS
[23:53] <urist_> cool... thank you
[23:53] <histo> urist_: you can also probably find vim-nogui
[23:53] <histo> urist_: they also have gvim for windows
[23:53] <almoxarife> Asurah: good luck
[23:53] <Asurah> almoxarife - I reinstalled Windows so I could get into the support
[23:54] <urist_> perfect, I do intend to use it both on windows and Linux... thanks histo and aeon-ltd
[23:54] <wplug_terryg> Can anybody help with vsftpd?
[23:54] <Zacarias> qin: I tried several drivers, but I always get the message: Printer 'Epson-Stylus-SX525WD' requires the 'epson-escpr-wrapper' program but it is not currently installed.  Please install it before using this printer.
[23:55] <recon69_lap> Asurah: you can use the live cd to see likely problems before you install anything. just saying you can check first
[23:55] <Asurah> recon69_lap - how can I do that?
[23:55] <histo> !anyone | wplug_terryg
[23:56] <wplug_terryg> Ok
[23:58] <brightspark> Hi all, I'd appreciate assistance getting 'totem' to play youtube videos using the menu in the sidebar.  I get a dialog box saying 'GStreamer encountered a general supporting library error.'  Terminal output available; thanks in advance.
[23:58] <wplug_terryg> I'm trying to install vsftpd using this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=518293.  I'm running into a command not found error. dbxxx_load
[23:58] <Malgorath> http://pastebin.com/n82pVU1x <-- nvidia bug report error. can anyone help me with this, i have so far tried to add modes, change video card from 210 to a 220 reinstalled a few times... getting frustrated
[23:58] <wplug_terryg> I have been searching ubuntuforums and have not found an answer