[04:12] <dakedres> Could anyone tell me where LightDM reads the background image from? When I change my wallpaper in settings it changes the background there, but I'm trying to set my wallpaper through a script using xfconf, and it's not updating the locker
[04:16] <Unit193> accountsservice is used, xfdesktop4 has a patch for that.  See also /var/lib/AccountsService/users/dakedres
[10:23] <dakedres> Thanks, that helps a lot. I actually for some reason forgot xflock was a thing thought the screenlocker was light locker, which was part of my confusion there lol.
[10:24] <Unit193> xflock4 just executes the lock, xfce4-screensaver is the current locker.
[10:24] <dakedres> Gotcha
[10:25] <dakedres> Is there any especial reason why /var/lib/AccountService doesn't have public read perms?
[10:26] <Unit193> User data, it doesn't want you able to read someone else's stuff.
[10:42] <dakedres> I guess that makes sense
[10:42] <dakedres> I appreciate the info


[10:14] <PaulGit> Hello all, is this the right place to ask questions about Ubuntu One in Lucid?
[10:29] <aquarius> PaulGit, yep!
[10:32] <PaulGit> aquarius: Great.  I am a little confused as to how U1 file sync is meant to work.  In Karmic there was a little applet that shows connection status,  also there was a connect button in Nautilus.   Now these both appear to have gone in Lucid and I am not sure what the intended method of checking status/connecting is meant to be under Lucid.
[10:33] <aquarius> PaulGit, that information will appear in the Ubuntu One control panel (which you can get to from the Me Menu, the menu at the top right with your name on it), but it's not working at the moment (alpha, hooray). You can check status with "u1sdtool -s" in a Terminal window.
[10:35] <PaulGit> aquarius: Ah OK.  Was not sure if I should be submitting a bug! Do you have a bug ref I can subscribe to?  Also how often is a connected checked.  I have been running all morning and U1 does not to appear to have attempted to connect.
[10:36] <rye> aquarius, btw, how would the syncdaemon be started on users' login?
[10:37] <aquarius> PaulGit, yeah, it doesn't connect on startup. "u1sdtool -c" will do that for you (again, still in alpha, hence terminal commands)
[10:38] <aquarius> rye, that one I'm not sure about (verterok or dobey will know)
[10:39] <PaulGit> aquarius: OK, no problem.  I will carry on testing with command line.  Thanks for your help.
[10:40] <rye> btw, I figured out why we have problems with ppa upgrade..
[11:11] <duanedesign> helo rye
[11:12] <duanedesign> rye: i was hoping you would say you had some insight into the PPA problem
[11:13] <rye> duanedesign, i had :)
[11:13] <rye> i mean i found one :)
[11:13] <rye> grrr, I mean I know what's the reason
[11:14] <duanedesign> rye: i weant aheas and posted in the bugs how they should proceed to get the update to finish succesfully
[11:14] <duanedesign> s/aheas/ahead
[11:15] <rye> duanedesign, and I made all them duplicates of a single one since the reason is simple - package install order due to dependencies
[11:15] <duanedesign> rye: but i wanted to be certain that they were all......ok that is what i was going to say:)
[11:16] <duanedesign> i wanted to be certain of the cause before i duped them all
[11:19] <duanedesign> rye: which bug did you make the master report on those
[11:21] <duanedesign> in case i find one that didnt get marked a duplicate. Or we get more :P
[11:31] <rye> duanedesign, added https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Bugs#Installation
[12:18] <duanedesign> rye: nice
[12:41] <duanedesign> rye: had a bug squad member in here over the weekend ashing about bug 498444
[12:42] <duanedesign> not all reports showing the UbuntuOne.Client.Applet DBus Error: Did not receive a reply.
[12:43] <duanedesign> are dupes of that unless you can confirm the other symptoms. U1 not starting at boot and exclamation point in applet
[12:45] <duanedesign> is it correct to say that error is a fairly general error that the applet did not receive reply from syncdaemon and not specific enough to determine the cause of the bug.
[12:46] <rye> duanedesign, yes, the presence of these errors are not indicating the issue with sync - it is just the sign that the user has a lot of files and syncdaemon startup takes some time
[12:47] <rye> Today is a holiday here and my wife is carrying me away from the computer, so I may not be present in the channel
[12:47] <duanedesign> thank you
[12:47] <duanedesign> rye :)
[12:48] <duanedesign> enjoy the holiday
[12:48] <rye> duanedesign, thanks :)
[13:06] <rye> ok, me is now away celebrating international women's day ^_^
[16:31] <CardinalFang> !$^#&@*(!@#$ Synergy $@#$!@*#$^.  Okay, replacing it.
[16:31] <CardinalFang> This is obvious.
[16:46]  * CardinalFang hugs x2x.
[18:17] <alevine> hey all, I'm getting a 500 error when syncing notes from the application. But I can access them perfectly from the web interface. Anybody got a sec to help?
[18:18] <beuno> alevine, does it give you a oops id?
[18:18] <duanedesign> wb alevine
[18:20] <duanedesign> OOPS-ID-1527appserver21688
[18:21] <duanedesign> that was the oops from the bug report you commented on alevine
[18:21]  * beuno looks
[18:24] <beuno> MenTaLguY, are we still unable to search for oopses on the web ui?
[19:23] <alevine> duanedesign, beuno sorry I was pulled off my computer for a sec, I'm at work
[19:23] <alevine> duanedesign, beuno let me know if I can give you anything you need to debug, I can run the synchronize code again if you'd like
[21:17] <rye> Ubuntu ROCKS and so does Ubuntu-One. - bug 528203
[21:26] <dobey> what is with this bug already
[21:27] <dobey> it's been fixed
[21:27] <rye> dobey, what revision is it fixed in?
[21:28] <dobey> rye: it was fixed last week in the version in ubuntu proper by rmcbride_, and 1.1.3 is in Lucid already
[21:28] <dobey> i don't know what the status for fixed packages in the PPA is
[21:29] <rmcbride> dobey: rye: there should be fixed packages in the nightly PPA now
[21:29] <rye> dobey, these people used PPA, that's why they started experiencing this
[21:29] <rmcbride> rye: I'm not sure the fix is in the BETA ppa, just nightly right now
[21:29] <dobey> rye: if you're on lucid it doesn't matter if you use the ppa or not
[21:29] <rmcbride> and there is that too
[21:30] <dobey> rye: the version in lucid is newer than the version in the ppa.
[21:30] <rye> ah, need to switch the duplicate to bug 523752
[21:30] <rye> dobey, yes, but the people that are reporting this are running karmic/jaunty
[21:31] <rye> hm
[21:31] <rye> Version: 1.1.3-0ubuntu1
[21:31] <rye> Replaces: nautilus-ubuntuone, ubuntuone-oauth-login, ubuntuone-storagefs
[21:31] <rye> Depends: python-ubuntuone-client (= 1.1.3-0ubuntu1), python-configglue, python-apport
[21:31] <rye> Conflicts: nautilus-ubuntuone, ubuntuone-oauth-login, ubuntuone-storagefs
[21:32] <rmcbride> hmm
[21:32] <rye> that's for ubuntuone-client
[21:32] <rye> and this is what is in ubuntuone-client-gnome:
[21:32] <rye> Version: 1.1.3-0ubuntu1
[21:32] <rye> Replaces: ubuntuone-client (<= 1.1.1)
[21:32] <rye> Conflicts: ubuntuone-client (<= 1.1.1)
[21:32] <dobey> yes
[21:33] <rye> bug 523752 mentioned ubuntuone-client, not ubuntuone-client-gnome
[21:33] <rye> - This bug was fixed in the package ubuntuone-client - 1.1.2-0ubuntu2
[21:33] <dobey> rye: no, the error is confusing
[21:34] <rye> dobey, yes, i know that the ubuntuone-client-gnome should say that older ubuntuone-client is conflicting with it
[21:34] <dobey> rye: ubuntuone-client is the name of the source package, it just happens it also creates a binary package of the same name
[21:35] <rye> dobey, ah, source package! right, sorry :)
[21:35] <dobey> now where was i
[21:36] <alevine> beuno, you there?
[21:54] <binarylooks> can I run the lucid client in kubuntu? It worked for karmic.
[21:54] <binarylooks> (i mean the gnome client in lucid)
[22:30] <charlie-tca> Is there a trick to getting Ubuntu One to work in Xubuntu Lucid? I got it working in xubuntu 9.10
[23:00] <charlie-tca> I'm here, rye
[23:00] <charlie-tca> What is the secret?
[23:00] <rye[fixing-x]> charlie-tca, hi
[23:02] <charlie-tca> How do I get it to work?
[23:02] <rye[fixing-x]> charlie-tca, you are running lucid and you have ubuntuone-client installed, right?
[23:02] <charlie-tca> right
[23:04] <rye[fixing-x]> charlie-tca, ok, try opening the terminal and starting ubuntuone-preferences
[23:04] <rye[fixing-x]> does that print anything?
[23:05] <charlie-tca> Just restarted again. give it a minuite
[23:06] <charlie-tca> okay
[23:07] <charlie-tca> preferences screen came up
[23:07] <rye[fixing-x]> charlie-tca, hm you should get the window with the button 'Connect'
[23:07] <charlie-tca> That the one under devices?
[23:07] <charlie-tca> wants to limit bandwidth, too
[23:08] <charlie-tca> Okay, clicked on connect
[23:09] <charlie-tca> Not syncing
[23:09] <rye[fixing-x]> charlie-tca, can you pastebin the contents of ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log ?
[23:09] <charlie-tca> sure
[23:13] <charlie-tca> http://paste.ubuntu.com/391343
[23:20] <rye[fixing-x]> charlie-tca, I believe it is doing something, i.e. querying the server
[23:20] <charlie-tca> hmmm
[23:20] <rye[fixing-x]> could you please execute find ~/Ubuntu
[23:20] <rye[fixing-x]> erm
[23:20] <rye[fixing-x]> could you please execute find ~/Ubuntu\ One | wc -l
[23:20] <charlie-tca> It's there because I created that folder
[23:21] <rye[fixing-x]> and tell me what number that prints
[23:21] <charlie-tca> 283
[23:22] <charlie-tca> So, it is doing something?
[23:22] <charlie-tca> yes, it is
[23:22] <rye[fixing-x]> charlie-tca, there is a query process for every file before the files start to be uploaded
[23:22] <charlie-tca> well, smack me in the head now
[23:22] <charlie-tca> So, do I have to start it with ubuntuone-preferences every time now?
[23:23] <charlie-tca> (in lucid, of course)
[23:23] <rye[fixing-x]> charlie-tca, no, see bug 531273 - the fact that you thought that it is not syncing is well understandable
[23:23] <charlie-tca> Thank you very much
[23:23] <charlie-tca> I will try to have more patience with it.
[23:24] <rye[fixing-x]> charlie-tca, I don't have the details of Lucid integration for now
[23:24] <charlie-tca> I appear to be the only lucid Xubuntu Ubuntu One user right now
[23:24] <rye[fixing-x]> charlie-tca, could you please check that you are affected by this bug as well?
[23:24] <charlie-tca> That's okay. I will just keep trying
[23:24] <charlie-tca> sure, at the bug.
[23:24] <rye[fixing-x]> I mean there is a menu in that bug that lets you to be 'affected by this bug as well'
[23:24] <charlie-tca> Do you want it confirmed?
[23:25] <rye[fixing-x]> charlie-tca, that would be great as well
[23:25] <rye[fixing-x]> btw, rye = Roman Yepishev :)
[23:25] <charlie-tca> No problem
[23:25] <charlie-tca> Neat!
[23:25] <charlie-tca> thanks so much
[23:26] <rye[fixing-x]> charlie-tca, you are very welcome
[23:42] <duanedesign> rye[fixing-x]:  fixing X ugh
[23:44] <rye[fixing-x]> duanedesign, yup, no X after upgrade. Doing things from netbook with main machine being ssh-d into :)
[23:45] <rye[fixing-x]> duanedesign, i mean there is X, but it is not that usable
[23:45] <duanedesign> x can be bit of a booger to ttroubleshoot
[23:45] <rye[fixing-x]> duanedesign, I have even tried nouveau drivers :)
[23:45] <duanedesign> rye[fixing-x]: quick question
[23:46] <rye[fixing-x]> duanedesign, they work but if that has happened to me then this will happen to someone else, and I'd like to file a bug before that kills some kitteh
[23:46] <duanedesign> rye[fixing-x]: if someone is behind a firewall and Ubuntu One is not working. Is there a command they can run to deetermine if the firewqall is preventing access
[23:47] <rye[fixing-x]> duanedesign, they only need to access the ubuntuone servers via 443 port, couchdb.one.ubuntu.com and fs-1.one.ubuntu.com (fs-2.one.ubuntu.com might also be present)
[23:48] <rye[fixing-x]> duanedesign, this connection is client-initiated so there is no need to open ports/create forwarding rules for u1 to work


[14:04] <waldo323> good morning
[14:04] <cmaloney> Good morning
[14:07] <rick_h_> morning, how was MUG?
[14:08] <waldo323> social
[14:08] <waldo323> and good
[14:09] <cmaloney> Yeah, we talked about Mastodon and the federated we
[14:09] <cmaloney> web
[14:13] <brousch> I'm going to talk about Mycroft AI at the next GRPUG. Open source Alexa/Siri/Google Home thingy
[14:15] <waldo323> oooo nice
[14:15] <waldo323> do you record your meetings?
[14:16] <brousch> No
[14:16] <brousch> But if it works well, I could maybe bring it to MUG later in the summer
[14:17] <cmaloney> brousch: That's awesome!
[14:17] <cmaloney> WE're booked up through the summer (actually to 2019, scarily enough)
[14:17] <brousch> That's incredibl
[14:18] <cmaloney> I'm loving Mycroft, even though it's a little daft
[14:18] <brousch> e
[14:18] <brousch> Do you use it?
[14:18] <cmaloney> Yeah, it's weird for us as well
[14:18] <cmaloney> Yeah, I have it in a Google AIY box
[14:18] <cmaloney> Do you have the MArk I?
[14:19] <brousch> No, I kickstarted the mark II
[14:19] <cmaloney> Ah
[14:19] <brousch> I'll just be running it in a Linux VM on Monday
[14:19] <cmaloney> But you've been playing with the desktop / picroft versions?
[14:19] <cmaloney> Check out Picroft if you get a chance
[14:19] <cmaloney> it's kind of neat to see a $35 computer in action
[14:20] <cmaloney> also if you can get over to Microcenter you can pick up the AIY kit for $5-$10
[14:20] <cmaloney> and the give it a nice box to live in
[14:20] <brousch> It's been on my radar for a while, but I haven't dug into it. Then last week I helped a blind programmer with some stuff and realized how useful it could be to him
[14:20] <cmaloney> Yeah
[14:20] <brousch> I have 2 3D printers, so a cardboard case feels weak
[14:20] <cmaloney> Heh
[14:21] <cmaloney> What's cool about it is it includes the mic and hat
[14:21] <cmaloney> If you want I will happily pick one up and ship it to you
[14:23] <brousch> I hadn't heard of that kit. Very nice. This is $10 at microcenter? https://www.target.com/p/-/A-53416295
[14:24] <cmaloney> There's a different kit at Microcenter
[14:24] <cmaloney> it needs a RPi3 to work
[14:24] <jrwren> not a 2?
[14:24] <cmaloney> http://www.microcenter.com/product/483414/AIY_Voice_Kit
[14:25] <brousch> I have a few 3s sitting around
[14:25] <cmaloney> I don't  think it'll work with a 2
[14:25] <cmaloney> 3B?
[14:26] <brousch> I think so
[14:26] <cmaloney> Yeah, if you're interested LMK and I'll pick one up / ship it
[14:26] <brousch> Ah, it's everything except the pi. Nifty
[14:26] <cmaloney> since they won't ship it (sadly)
[14:27] <cmaloney> and unless you're coming over to this side of town soon it doesn't make sense
[14:28] <cmaloney> Oh geez, the next meeting is on the 18th?
[14:28] <cmaloney> Yeesh, I don't think it could get there in time
[14:28] <waldo323> road trip
[14:28] <brousch> Yeah, I won't have time to play with that before the meeting, but it would still be nice
[14:29] <cmaloney> Yeah, road trip
[14:29] <cmaloney> come on out for CHC tonight. :)
[14:29] <cmaloney> OK. I'll still pick one up then and send it off
[14:29] <brousch> I'll bet I could put together a Microcenter carpool event
[14:29] <cmaloney> Oh hell yes
[14:30] <waldo323> or each party drives an hour or so to lansing or whatever the mid point is
[14:30] <waldo323> microcenter trips are fun though
[14:30] <cmaloney> And he fun thing is Microcenter is not that far from our house
[14:31] <waldo323> or the game store
[14:31] <brousch> We lost all of our radioshacks last year, so there really is nothing but Best Buy here any more
[14:31] <cmaloney> Yeah, Guild of Blades
[14:31] <cmaloney> Ugh. That sucks
[14:31] <cmaloney> or Office Depot, but that's hardly a replacement
[15:05] <brousch> Who's going to PyOhio?
[15:06] <cmaloney> I'm planning on it
[15:07] <brousch> I just made my reservation at the Blackwell
[16:00] <cmaloney> Nice
[16:45] <Scary_Guy> is the hardware on that voicekit open?
[17:48] <cmaloney> I'm not sure.
[17:51] <cmaloney> I don't think so
[17:51]  * Scary_Guy shakes fist
[22:15] <cmaloney> We think there might not be any power at the Bean & Leaf
[22:15] <cmaloney> in Royal Oak
[22:30] <waldo323> oi
[22:31] <waldo323> what about in your neck of the woods and places like microcenter?
[22:39] <waldo323> heading out have a good evening


[05:05] <nuvolari> morningz
[05:19] <superfly> I don't get kodez - I think he's hanging around in here because he thinks someone is going to jump out and teach him stuff
[05:19] <kbmonkey> hi superfly
[05:20] <kbmonkey> lol :0
[05:21] <kbmonkey> like kmem russian roulette? :D
[05:21] <nuvolari> superfly: oh, you mean spoonfeed?
[05:21] <nuvolari> :P spoonfeeding and linux don't go together nicely
[05:21] <kbmonkey> well now I feel silly for wanting to ask something :p
[05:22] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: there's a difference between spoonfeeding and showing enthusiasm
[05:22] <nuvolari> Maaz: spell enthusiasm
[05:22] <Maaz> nuvolari: Looks good to me
[05:24]  * kbmonkey nods yes
[05:28] <kbmonkey> its a cmus m4a not playing issue, think I'll hit their mailing list though :)
[05:28] <superfly> morning kbmonkey
[05:28]  * kbmonkey waves
[05:30] <superfly> nuvolari: no, he seems to think that there's a set of leaders who organise stuff for Ubuntu, and that everyone is an expert and a sysadmin or developer
[05:31] <kbmonkey> oh we are, but our self organisational skills are... well, bad. mine are at least ^^
[05:31] <kbmonkey> something about too many plates...
[05:32]  * kbmonkey makes mental note to dl and try Unity
[06:39]  * nlsthzn lurks
[07:19] <superfly> morning nlsthzn and fwolff
[09:24] <nlsthzn> hey Mr. superfly... sorry was afk
[09:24] <superfly> np
[09:29] <kodez> hi superfly, i managed to get a python document for web development. i will engage you on that matter when i had managed to go through the document
[09:33] <superfly> kodez: http://pylonsproject.org/
[09:34] <kodez> thanks, ii will do pay a visit
[10:21] <nlsthzn> Gents, any of you know of a typical issue installing ubuntu from USB via WUBI? We where getting a constant error (unable to download iso meta data) or something like that?
[10:23] <fwolff> nuvolari, inetpro: http://translate.org.za/blogs/friedel/content/vertaalmaraton-vir-gnome-3
[10:23] <fwolff> nuvolari, inetpro: Wil julle dalk deelneem môre? (of op 'n ander dag :-)
[10:52] <queery> maaz, coffee
[10:52] <Maaz> queery: What?
[10:52] <queery> maaz, coffee on
[10:52]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[10:56] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for queery!
[10:57] <Tonberry> o0
[10:57] <Tonberry> moar coffeeeeeeee
[10:57] <queery> maaz, thank you
[10:57] <Maaz> queery: Sure
[11:04] <nuvolari> :?
[11:04] <nuvolari> dunno if it went through,
[11:04] <nuvolari> what's the correct proverb in english for: "een swaeltjie maak nie 'n somer nie"
[11:39] <Kilos> one swaalow doesn't make a summer
[11:39] <Kilos> swallow
[11:39] <Kilos> hi guys
[12:23] <nuvolari> Maaz: tell kilos dankie oom
[12:23] <Maaz> nuvolari: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[13:54] <nuvolari> yo nlsthzn
[13:55] <nlsthzn> nuvolari - Hey :0
[15:36] <Fistaz> Hall!!!
[15:37] <nuvolari> home time!
[15:37] <nuvolari> cheerz
[15:37] <Fistaz> Heita Holaaaa!!!
[15:38] <Fistaz> Didnt know blackberry had this app wow!!
[15:38] <Fistaz> Hi kodez
[15:39] <kodez> hi Fistaz and all my ubuntu family
[15:40] <Fistaz> So how are u?
[15:41] <kodez> i'm better than yesterday, thanks for asking. i'm a little bit exhausted because i was busy with javascript
[15:46] <Fistaz> anyone available for a chat?
[15:47] <Fistaz> ????
[15:47] <Fistaz> someone? anyone?
[15:53] <Symmetria> mirror.ac.za will be going down in a bit
[15:53] <Symmetria> probably the next hour or two
[15:53] <Symmetria> and will be down for a while
[15:53] <Symmetria> probably 6 to 8 hours at least
[15:53] <tumbleweed> good luck :)
[15:54] <Symmetria> heh well, patrick busy rackmounting the new server
[15:54] <Symmetria> after that it gets interesting
[15:54] <Symmetria> next step is to go to reef facility, pull the PCI-E 10G nic and 2 x PCI-E percs outta it
[15:55] <Symmetria> and put them + 3 SAN's in th ecar
[15:55] <Symmetria> take those to wits and rackmount them :P
[15:55] <Symmetria> this server is gigantic
[15:55] <Symmetria> :P
[15:55] <Symmetria> it has 1100 watt PSU's
[15:55] <Symmetria> haha
[15:57] <Tonberry> ja good luck
[15:57] <Symmetria> heh, 64gigs of ram and 12 3.4ghz cpu cores
[15:58]  * Symmetria loves
[15:59] <Tonberry> o0
[15:59] <Tonberry> damn
[16:04] <superfly> Symmetria: only 12 CPUs?
[16:08] <Symmetria> heh superfly 2 cpus, 6 core xeons, dont need more than that for mirroring
[16:08] <Symmetria> heh, they are the new fancy xeon 6 core shit, *shrug*
[16:09] <Symmetria> heh, combined with that much cpu power and that much ram and the 60 odd TB of disk space attached though, all should be good
[16:09] <Symmetria> :P
[16:09] <Symmetria> and it looks like we're expanding the disk space to 120TB as well
[16:09] <Tonberry> somehow i can not see how you could possibly need even that much for mirroring
[16:10] <Symmetria> Tonberry the disk space?
[16:11] <Symmetria> heh, oh, we can definately use that, infact, a lot more than that
[16:11] <Tonberry> no cpus
[16:11] <Symmetria> if I was carrying the full mirror data I need to actually carry, I'd need 3.2 petabytes
[16:11] <Tonberry> disk space i can easily see how 60tb is too little :p
[16:11] <Symmetria> Tonberry heh, you havent seen how much cpu a machine can chew when its got 15k+ connections hitting it at once
[16:11] <Tonberry> true
[16:12] <Tonberry> wait
[16:12] <Tonberry> how much damn bandwidth does that thing have access too?
[16:12] <Tonberry> to*
[16:14] <Symmetria> Tonberry errr national and international combined?
[16:14] <Symmetria> technically it would peak out on its network card before it actually ran outta bandwidth on any of the links
[16:14] <Symmetria> but its network card is a 10G fiber card
[16:14] <Tonberry> oh
[16:14] <Tonberry> ok
[16:14] <Symmetria> the router its connected to has *works it out*
[16:14] <Tonberry> suddenly 12 cores does not seem so excessive
[16:15] <Symmetria> 42 gigabit of bandwidth into it
[16:15] <Symmetria> wait, its more than that
[16:16] <Symmetria> 10 x backbone to capetown (where it meets 10gig to Neotel, 10gig to IS, 10gig to CINX), 10 x backbone to Pretoria where it meets 10gig to London, then 30gig to Rosebank where it meets 10gig to JINX, 11gig to I.S and 1 gig to Neotel
[16:16] <Symmetria> so 50gig into the backend of the router its connected to at 10gig :P
[16:17] <Tonberry> 0o
[16:19] <Symmetria> heh Tonberry put it this way, I was testing to London at 6gigabit/second
[16:51] <kodez> Hi Symmetria, is it possible to copy an image file in mirror.ac.za using ftp?
[16:51] <kodez> also, can i get the ubuntu DVD there?
[17:13] <frozty_sa> as far as I recall mirror.ac.za has FTP servers running
[17:13] <frozty_sa> but the server is down for maintenance right now
[18:00] <kodez> is ti possible to mount www.mirror.ac.za as an NFS?
[18:00] <Symmetria> mp
[18:00] <Symmetria> no
[18:00] <Symmetria> not a chance
[18:01] <Symmetria> heh, sorry, way 2 many security possibilities for me to allow that
[18:04] <kodez> what will be a better way of downloading application from packages.ubuntu.com?
[18:05] <kodez> preferable all
[18:23] <kodez> is there a way of building my own packages server?
[18:23] <Tonberry> a mirror of a repository?
[18:24] <Tonberry> apt-mirror maybe?
[18:24] <kodez> i guess something of that nature
[18:25] <kodez> where can i learn about developing my own repo server?
[18:27] <Tonberry> http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror
[18:27] <Tonberry> looks like what you want to do
[18:27] <kodez> kwl, i am opening it
[19:06] <Symmetria> ok
[19:06] <Symmetria> wish us luck
[19:06] <Symmetria> patrick on his way to shut down old system
[19:06] <Symmetria> :P
[19:37] <superfly> Symmetria: w00t :-)
[19:47] <kodez1> DraZoro, welcome to the world of ubuntu
[19:48] <DraZoro> kodez1: Thanks and Hello
[20:48] <36DAA8SZF> hi
[22:06] <superfly> fp


[22:05] <Curly_Q> It may say the manufacturers name there Tgp1994.
[22:05] <PyroPhelia> ls
[22:05] <PyroPhelia> sorry
[22:05] <Curly_Q> Yes.
[22:06] <amy_> zaxonspox: what if it doesn't disappear?
[22:06] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: Ok, or should I actually try fdisk?
[22:06] <crucialhoax> histo: Is it re-enabled?
[22:06] <Curly_Q> Try mounting first.
[22:06] <jrib> bondiblueos9: find -iname '*.zip' -exec rm -i '{}' \;
[22:06] <zaxonspox> amy_ it should, if not, then connect it again, and normal unmount
[22:07] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: Now mount has frozen :(
[22:07] <zaxonspox> amy_ hard way will be to remove entry in ....   .mtab file i think
[22:07] <Curly_Q> If you see five devices that indicates but I am not 100% sure that there are five logical partitions. How big is that flash drive?
[22:07] <amy_> ok, i will do that now and try your suggestion
[22:07] <amy_> if don't work, i will come back on chat
[22:07] <amy_> thanks
[22:07] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: Nevermind, just took awhile. I'll keep trying on the other devices. Oh, I see where you're going here. No, I think those five devices are the five ports on this AIO card reader.
[22:08] <zaxonspox> amy_ spox
[22:08] <Curly_Q> I see.
[22:08] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: There's actually only four, but maybe one has two in it.
[22:08] <Curly_Q> See what fdisk tells you. Just do a querry there.
[22:09] <crucialhoax> how do you get ubuntu to show the boot process?
[22:09] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: How do I do a query in fdisk?
[22:09] <Curly_Q> fdisk
[22:09] <crucialhoax> do I need to remove the `quite` part from grub menu?
[22:09] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: Umm, it just shows examples for usage.
[22:09] <jfroebe> I think "F2" when starting but I might be remembering wrong
[22:09] <Curly_Q> Try fdisk help  -help
[22:09] <Zelda> its different for all machines man.
[22:10] <crucialhoax> Zelda: My netbook does it automagically.
[22:10] <Curly_Q> It would be better to Google fdisk in this case.
[22:10] <Zelda> see, some do it automatically.
[22:10] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: Mk.
[22:10] <SickPuppy> anyone know what the --sm-disable option is with the network manager applet ?
[22:10] <Zelda> its fdisk -help I think
[22:10] <crucialhoax> --help?
[22:11] <Curly_Q> Greets to Zelda    <--------------<
[22:11] <Zelda> or /help
[22:11] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: I think you may be thinking of the windows version of fdisk, since that has a /query switch.
[22:11] <xrax063> ola?
[22:11] <xrax063> eh
[22:11] <Curly_Q> No Linux has an fdisk.
[22:11] <grogoreo> hi
[22:11] <grogoreo> is it possible, like you can on windows, to use the mic socket for surround sound output?
[22:11] <tripelb> has been doing save-as since before you touched a computer dudes
[22:11] <xrax063> alguien podria decirme que es esto?
[22:12] <morris1> hi. i connected my computer to my HD tv. i just changed my audio output device to HDMI, and most sounds are now output on the tv. however, some programs refuse to output there and output on the default sound device (desktop speakers). what can i do?
[22:12] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: I realise that :) but google searching is revealing only a /query switch, which means it's for windows.
[22:12] <Zelda> espanolo dude.
[22:12] <Curly_Q> http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/3174/1/
[22:12] <tripelb> ubuntu wont make the window fit my screen. So not ready for primetime.
[22:12] <Zelda> you think save-as is bad.. i have to save using punch cards!
[22:12] <Zelda> hahah
[22:12] <crucialhoax> SickPuppy: I am googling now. One sec
[22:12] <tripelb> Zelda, when we had punch cards I had a keypunch operator to do them for me.
[22:13] <Zelda> I have to use a 7 punch cards..
[22:13] <sab_> i was trying 'sudo synaptic' on cli...its giving me this msg............Unable to get exclusive lock......................................why and how could i solve this problem??
[22:13] <tripelb> zelda, base 7 ! how alien !
[22:13] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: Says nothing about querying for devices :)
[22:13] <Zelda> LOL
[22:13] <crucialhoax> sab_: you have something else running apt
[22:13]  * tripelb goes irl (not getting any help here)
[22:13] <iadrian> I have a simple question. If anyone can answer please, i already have windows. I want to install Ubuntu 9.10 but i want to keep windows too and to have an option to choose between them at boot. And if i install Ubuntu , does it have to be on a separate partition? Or if i use with a windows normal it will change it`s data structure?
[22:13] <Curly_Q> When I said querry I was referring to take a look at what the partitions were with fdisk.
[22:14] <Zelda> iadrian. you can do that.
[22:14] <Flare-Laptop> !aptlock | sab_
[22:14] <Zelda> You run the live cd, and it will give you the option to run them and choose at startup
[22:14] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: That would mean I'd have to mount a device, and all five of the devices failed at mounting.
[22:14] <iadrian> just install ubuntu now normal installation just to a separate partiotion?
[22:14] <hassanakevazir> sab_, pkill synaptic && pkill update-manager
[22:14] <sab_> crucialhoax, how can i stop that apt,and how do i know what is running on apt?
[22:14] <Zelda> iadrian,: yes
[22:14] <iadrian> Thank you Zelda !
[22:14] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: In fdisk I mean
[22:14] <crucialhoax> sab_: Are you using apt-get in a terminal?
[22:14] <Curly_Q> Tgp1994 this website will help you.    http://www.basicconfig.com/linux/linux_fdisk_command_check_hard_disk_partitions
[22:14] <Zelda> thats what Im doing right now.
[22:15] <Zelda> well, I mean, thats how I have my computer set up right now.
[22:15] <sab_> crucialhoax, yes
[22:15] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: Nothing came back when using the -l command, what does that mean?
[22:15] <Zelda> ^ maybe he went to get some pans
[22:15] <Zelda> hahah
[22:15] <benli> buntu-tr
[22:16] <iadrian> which one is better, Ubuntu OR Kubuntu ?
[22:16] <crucialhoax> sab_: That is why, when that is finished, you can open Synaptic
[22:16] <preston_> I am using Ubuntu 9.10 and wanted to know how to set my network connection priorities
[22:16] <Zelda> -l is the list command
[22:16] <crucialhoax> iadrian: It is your choice
[22:16] <Flare-Laptop> !best | iadrian
[22:16] <Zelda> Kubuntu uses KDE and Ubuntu is Gnome. I like Ubuntu
[22:16] <crucialhoax> iadrian: I prefer ubuntu because I like gnome, but if you like KDE, then use Kubuntu
[22:16] <tgp1994> Zelda: Ah, so if it only comes back with my hard disk, that means no other partitions are detected anywhere?
[22:16] <red2kic> !de | iadrian
[22:16] <iadrian> Understand.
[22:17] <red2kic> iadrian: Er. Not the one I was looking for.
[22:17] <c3l> iadrian, if youre a former windows user KDE (kubuntu) might be more familiar to you, personally I prefer kde over gnome, and im a "experienced linux user"
[22:17] <sab_> crucialhoax, i was running this command ....apt-get install amarok ,then it stops and not working,i pressed ctrl+z to quit
[22:17] <Zelda> tgp1994: what are you trying to do?
[22:17] <red2kic> !desktop | iadrian
[22:17] <tgp1994> Zelda: Trying to figure out why my SDHC card isn't being read.
[22:17] <Curly_Q> If that is what it is saying then mount that one partition rather than the 4.
[22:17] <Zelda> <--likes GNOME
[22:17] <crucialhoax> sab_: Now try opening synaptics
[22:17] <iromli> crucialhoax: agree with you, i like gnome too
[22:17] <tgp1994> Zelda: It's only read on my wii.
[22:17] <Zelda> tgp1994: in LInux?
[22:17] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: Huh?
[22:17] <sheeps10> for posterity: my problem with networking was caused by having the ubuntu-minimal package installed, which recently installed ifupdown, which is hard configured to use dhcp, and /etc/network/interfaces needs to be edited by hand
[22:17] <crucialhoax> <---- agrees with Zelda
[22:18] <tgp1994> Zelda: Right, not read in linux or windows, only read on the wii.
[22:18] <iadrian> Beside the desktop enviroment there is no big difference ...
[22:18] <crucialhoax> iadrian: Correct
[22:18] <c3l> iadrian, imo there is
[22:18] <Zelda> tgp1994: so you have formatted it using the Wii?
[22:18] <tgp1994> Zelda: Correct.
[22:18] <crucialhoax> tgp1994: Can you reformat it to something else in the Wii?
[22:18] <tgp1994> crucialhoax: I'm not quite sure :S
[22:18] <Zelda> tgp1994: Interesting. Let me see if mine will read in Linux or windows.
[22:19] <preston_> Hey I am using Ubuntu 9.10 and was wondering if anyone knows how to set priorities on network connections
[22:19] <crucialhoax> tgp1994: What did Wii format it to?
[22:19] <tgp1994> crucialhoax: Beats me :P
[22:19] <crucialhoax> lol sweet
[22:19] <Curly_Q> Tgp1994 have you gone to the manufacture website to check for drivers so Linux can see that device?
[22:19] <crucialhoax> Curly_Q: It is not that. I believe it is a Wii only format lol
[22:20] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: The Mfg's website looks like one of those knockoff ones, but heck, I don't even know what the device S/N is.
[22:20] <Zelda> its probably a matter of the Wii formatting it to like fat16 or something.
[22:20] <crucialhoax> fat16 i recognized by Linux
[22:20] <tgp1994> @all, And even then, I would think that at least the physical card would be recognized.
[22:20] <Curly_Q> Tgp1994 the serial number is not what is important, it is the PART NUMBER and name of the device and MODEL NUMBER.   :)
[22:20] <Zelda> hm... maybe the way they formatted it, the MBR is only recognized by the Wii's software.
[22:21] <Zelda> is it a WII branded SD card?
[22:21] <histo> crucialhoax: yeah its a bug from resuming after bumping the button. I can recreate it.
[22:21] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: Ya, I guess that's what I meant :P Very fishy of knocked-offed ness.
[22:21] <histo> crucialhoax: I'll look at filing it later
[22:21] <Curly_Q> lol
[22:21] <tgp1994> Zelda: No, it's a standard SanDisk card.
[22:21] <crucialhoax> histo: As long as it works now lol
[22:21] <Zelda> OMG?
[22:21] <Zelda> I dont know then. I cant get to mine right now. I have it packed somewhere.
[22:22] <tgp1994> Zelda: Oh, alright. Perhaps the Homebrew channel has a formatter, im gunna go to their website and look.
[22:22] <Zelda> good idea.
[22:22] <tgp1994> (Blasted think can't update, which is why I'm trying to format the card in the 1st place :P)
[22:22] <crucialhoax> tgp1994: So you formatted the the SD card using the Wii and now it wont read on the computers?
[22:22] <Zelda> Ive never had an issue using it in a Windows machine..
[22:22] <tgp1994> crucialhoax: Correct.
[22:22] <Zelda> crucial: precisely.
[22:22] <tgp1994> Zelda: Odd.
[22:23] <Zelda> tgp1994: indeed.
[22:23] <tgp1994> Zelda: Double confirmation :P
[22:23] <crucialhoax> Hmm... that is weird. does it show up in the logs as being recognized? `tail -f /var/log/messages
[22:23] <geoffb> Not odd at all methinks. If you asked the Wii to format the SD card with one of the homebrew apps, then it's going to make the assumption that you're planning to install gam, uh, 'backups' on the card, and format it with WBFS
[22:24] <geoffb> WBFS is a format that, for the most part, the Wii recognises and nothing else does
[22:24] <Zelda> which woudlnt be recognized by either system.
[22:24] <histo> crucialhoax: yeah but definately a bug.
[22:24] <tgp1994> Here's the paste: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/2zRLxbJq
[22:24] <Zelda> tgp1994: there you are man. thats the problem.
[22:24] <geoffb> There's a program for Windows, WBFS Manager, that will handle the filesystem, but it just installs games on it.
[22:24] <Zelda> I dont have mine "hacked or modded"
[22:24] <sab_> when i m using synaptic to install something its trying to DL but no progress,but my internet connection is good now,why?
[22:25] <geoffb> tgp1994: Zelda: what are you trying to do with the SD card? why do you need the SD card in the Wii?  What size is this card?
[22:25] <Zelda> geoffb: its not me its tgp1994
[22:25] <hawkeye13> Is there a way to use GDM login screens on Ubuntu 9.10?
[22:25] <geoffb> I figured that Zelda, it's just that with a name like Zelda, it's kinda easy to assume it's you :-D
[22:25] <Zelda> zaxonspox: its not me ask tgp1994
[22:25] <sab_> i m trying different soft to DL,but not a single one is working
[22:26] <Zelda> LOL
[22:26] <Zelda> geeze...
[22:26] <loonyjuice> Hey
[22:26] <tgp1994> @both: I'm trying to install a homebrew channel update on it cause the HB channel doesn't update its self.
[22:26] <tgp1994> zaxonspox: It's 8Gb.
[22:26] <geoffb> (remembering that the game, "Zelda, Twighlight Princess" was the source of the leak that led to the softmod stuff for the wii becoming available
[22:26] <tgp1994> I mean GB :P
[22:26] <Zelda> I know, im so great arent i? L)
[22:26] <Zelda> er :)
[22:27] <zaxonspox> tgp1994 :P did you tryed formating it in GParted, and putting in Wii?
[22:27] <sab_> can anyone please tell me how can i solve this problem,i m very new in linux(ubuntu)
[22:27] <tgp1994> zaxonspox: Nah, without thinking, it went straight from the packaging into the wii.
[22:27] <geoffb> so, like it or nor Zelda, you're irretrievably associated with the Wii :-)
[22:27] <Zelda> geoffb: damn!
[22:27] <morris1> i'm trying to make epsxe output the sound on a different device than the default. it does not show up in pavucontrol though. any other ideas?
[22:27] <Zelda> heh!
[22:27] <BlaDe^> hi guys,  the range available for all of my cpu-frequency scaling governors is 800-800MHz
[22:28] <geoffb> tgp1994: so the SD card you're using... has that already been used with the wii, does it already have softmod/homebrew stuff on it?
[22:28] <tgp1994> geoffb: Yessir.
[22:28] <Zelda> geoffb: thats what hes been saying.
[22:28] <BlaDe^> my CPU supports 800, 1.6, 1.8 and 1.9 but I can't get it to use any of them! Can anyone help me with that? or to turn it off.
[22:28] <geoffb> tgp1994: the SD card is in your ubuntu box now? you have a command prompts up?
[22:28] <tgp1994> geoffb: Although somehow I think I remeber it almost working with my printer's memory reader...
[22:28] <tgp1994> geoffb: Yes.
[22:28] <Zelda> blade^: can your mb support those other speeds?
[22:29] <geoffb> tgp1994: do you know what device it is? also, what makes you think it's not working. Are you getting some sort of error message?
[22:29] <BlaDe^> yeah, Zelda  when I first installed it used to run at 1.14 constantly (even though that isnt supported)
[22:29] <snowhouse> hi would this be the right place to ask a question about rythembox?
[22:29] <sab_> when i m using synaptic to install something its trying to DL but no progress,but my internet connection is good now,why?
[22:29] <histo> !ask | snowhouse
[22:29] <mendip> Hi guys! Anyone know a good scanner that works well with xsane?
[22:29] <BlaDe^> but I played with the governors trying to fix it and now it's gone all wrong
[22:29] <sab_> can anyone please tell me how can i solve this problem,i m very new in linux(ubuntu)
[22:29] <tgp1994> geoffb: Well, right away five devices pop up, which I'm assuming is the card reader its self registering five ports with linux, so I'm not sure which port the mem card is in.
[22:29] <nerdy_kid> hey whats the name of the disk utility the karmic uses instead of gparted?
[22:29] <Zelda> Blade^: check to see if there is cmos update for your board.
[22:29] <nerdy_kid> using kubuntu
[22:29] <BlaDe^> how do I do that Zelda ?
[22:29] <histo> sab_: what are you trying to download with synaptic? Is it a package in a normal repository or a third party?
[22:30] <tgp1994> nerdy_kid: I think it's Partition Manager straight up.
[22:30] <darthwonka> anyone know what would cause a remote app (via ssh -X) to spawn a windows that has a transparent background rather than filled?
[22:30] <BlaDe^> for the record, it works brilliantly on my dads laptop downstairs he just installed it
[22:30] <sab_> histo, amarok
[22:30] <loonyjuice> What's wrong with gparted?
[22:30] <BlaDe^> and his laptop is very similar to mine
[22:30] <BluesKaj-Laptop> sab_, how is synaptic not working, explain what it's doing pls.
[22:30] <Zelda> im assuming thats your issue. if it wasnt supported from the get go.
[22:30] <nerdy_kid> tgp1994 i think it was called palpiset or something like that
[22:30] <Zelda> maybe there has been an update to "unlock" that feature
[22:30] <darthwonka> the remote system is Solaris
[22:30] <histo> BlaDe^: have you enabled the scaling tool?
[22:30] <tgp1994> nerdy_kid: I dunno, in KDE's software manager I see Partition Manager, as is.
[22:30] <geoffb> tgp1994: trial and error my friend... :-D actually, no... if you get a command prompt up... "sudo dmesg" right after you've plugged it in should give you some info about those five devices, and whether any of them have an actual disk in it (And yes, that almost certainly is the card reader waking up)
[22:31] <histo> BlaDe^: you can disable scaling and see how high it goes wiht he tool
[22:31] <nerdy_kid> tgp1994 yeah im looking to install that in my kubuntu :(
[22:31] <tgp1994> geoffb: Ya, I think I posted a log from that, do you want the link?
[22:31] <snowhouse> so when i plug my ipod into rythmebox, it asks whether i want to set it up or not (which i do) and when i enter in what model it is and what i want the name to be it gives me an error
[22:31] <geoffb> tgp1994: yes pls
[22:31] <morris1> how can i find out which sound architecture my ubuntu is currently using?
[22:31] <histo> BlaDe^: right click on panel and add to panel. Add the cpu frequency scaling monitor
[22:31] <tgp1994> nerdy_kid: Ya, what I did was just search for "part" and then get the first thing that isn't a library or gparted
[22:31] <tgp1994> geoffb: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/2zRLxbJq
[22:31] <sab_> BluesKaj-Laptop, well before few hours ago when i was using synaptic to DL something it was working properly,now when i trying to install something it just stop on DL process,i mean no progress at all
[22:31] <BlaDe^> histo:  yes I havae that, but it isn't working
[22:32] <BlaDe^> it oesnt let me use the selector (Even if I try and select speeds manually using cpufreq-selector) and all the governors have 800MHz-800MHz scales in cpufreq-info
[22:32] <troop> hi, i have lg 2486l monitor and it goes power saving mode during boot...how will i fix it.. thanks.
[22:32] <Curly_Q> Tgp1994 you said nothing above about SCSI.
[22:32] <nerdy_kid> tgp1994 hmm ok...i cant find it via google and its not showing in synaptic.  i am using lucid, maybe they renamed it or something
[22:32] <reborn> hi
[22:32] <geoffb> (What a strange morning... I've just woken up, halfway through my first coffee, I'm supposed to be downstairs diagnosing an electrical problem wiht my motorcycle and somehow I find myself sitting in #ubuntu solving a Wii problem with Zelda, Twighlight Princess looking over my shoulder :-D )
[22:32] <snowhouse> it says "problem creating ipod directory or file '/media/ipod/ipod_control/artwork'.
[22:32] <histo> BlaDe^: if you left click on the monitor do you have higher speeds availible?
[22:32] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: I didn't think that really applied to memory cards, so I was just thinking that was the default for nothing pluggied in :S
[22:33] <BlaDe^> yes histo
[22:33] <Curly_Q> It does.
[22:33] <kermit> why is apt-get update saying my firefox-3.5 is being held back?
[22:33] <Curly_Q> It has everything to do with it.
[22:33] <tgp1994> nerdy_kid: You're using synpatic? Then gparted should be no issue.
[22:33] <BlaDe^> 800MHz, 1.6, 1.8, 1.9
[22:33] <geoffb> ug, tgp1994, that tells me sweet nothing :-D Plan B: trial and error....
[22:33] <tgp1994> geoffb: Lol
[22:33] <histo> BlaDe^: click on 1.9 then
[22:33] <BlaDe^> histo:  re-read what I said
[22:33] <geoffb> tgp1994: wait... do you need the stuff that's already on the card?
[22:33] <Curly_Q> It looks like a RAID array to me.
[22:33] <tgp1994> geoffb: Not at all. A nuke would be fine.
[22:33] <reborn> i got 10.04 beta and every other day i have updates which are around 100mb sometimes even way more. what's up with that? all in all i think i've d/led updates worth more than 600 MB!
[22:34] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: RAID? Lol, this is getting out of proportions.
[22:34] <BluesKaj-Laptop> sab_, make sure you have just one instance of synaptic open at one time
[22:34] <nerdy_kid> tgp1994 well this program could create LUKS partitions that gparted cant; unless there is an easy way to do that.
[22:34] <histo> !lucid | reborn
[22:34] <tgp1994> nerdy_kid: So you're looking for a specific program?
[22:34] <sab_> BluesKaj-Laptop, ya
[22:34] <sab_> BluesKaj-Laptop, but tell me how to stop everything and can restart again
[22:35] <nerdy_kid> tgp1994 yeah i am looking for the disk utility GNOME uses.  think its called palpiset.  sorry didnt mean to be confusing
[22:35] <geoffb> ok, if a nuke would be fine, then will someone who knows about gparted buy in please... does gparted have a gui, can it figure out which of these devices has an SD card in it and... then create a single FAT16 partition on the card???
[22:35] <Curly_Q> Tgp1994 I just looked at your post:   example: Apr 13 17:04:35 tgpserv kernel: [ 6615.217939] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[22:35] <histo> BlaDe^: I have no idea then. usually this stuff is pretty trivial all power management. How old or new is your hardware?
[22:35] <geoffb> tgp1994: I could talk you through command line stuff, I'm not much good on gui stuff, but maybe that's doing it the hard way.
[22:35] <BluesKaj-Laptop> sab_, just close synaptic and try again
[22:35] <histo> BlaDe^: and is a custom built machine? Or does it have a make/model?
[22:35] <BlaDe^> my laptop is an acer aspire 7520 - it's relatively new
[22:35] <tgp1994> nerdy_kid: Oh, I just mis-intperreted your OP. Sorry, I guess that's it for my knowledge :P
[22:35] <BlaDe^> by that I mean like 2 years
[22:35] <histo> BlaDe^: let me check something
[22:35] <gspence___> anyone able to help me? think my apache server no working - i had mythtv installed and mythweb was working perfectly - but now since i did an update it's not working.  any suggestions
[22:36] <BlaDe^> ok
[22:36] <snowhouse> help
[22:36] <nerdy_kid> tgp1994 ok thanks anyway :)
[22:36] <Curly_Q> Tgp1994 which brings us right back to logical partitions for a RAID array.
[22:36] <geoffb> tgp1994: what I would do next is 'sudo fdisk /dev/sdb' then use 'p' to show what's on the device, if anything, wash, rinse, repeat for each of the others... sdc, sdd, sde, sdf
[22:36] <tgp1994> geoffb: Ok, will do.
[22:36] <geoffb> tgp1994: but there's probably an easier way.... anyone?
[22:36] <zaxonspox> gspence___ what is the status of apache?
[22:36] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: Lol, I can't image a wii making logical partitions
[22:37] <gspence___> zaxonspox - how do i check that?
[22:37] <histo> BlaDe^: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[22:37] <sab_> BluesKaj, its the same its stop on downloading file 13of 13,no progress at all,before it was ok
[22:37] <zaxonspox> gspence__ can you type localhost in browser url?
[22:37] <tgp1994> geoffb: Failed for all of them, unable to open /dev/sd*
[22:37] <Curly_Q> Perhaps that is the logic behind the device and is the reason why you cannot figure it out.
[22:37] <nerdy_kid> is ext4 safe for a backup drive?
[22:38] <geoffb> Curly_Q: the Wii itself isn't terribly smart... this is a partition made by a third party 'homebrew' app... it should be one of two partition types... actually, it SHOULD simply be Fat16... the utilities for Wii are pretty basic, they don't do elaborate stuff like raid
[22:38] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: So would I have to look for whatever three letter device is behind it? I guess I don't understand logical partitions too well.
[22:38] <abhishek> hi
[22:38] <BlaDe^> histo:  9.1
[22:38] <geoffb> tgp1994: is the SD card good? maybe it's crapped itself?
[22:38] <tgp1994> geoffb: I guess I might have misled you and everyone else helping me, it was the wii software it self that formatted i.
[22:38] <tgp1994> *it.
[22:38] <BluesKaj> sab_, what are you trying to install ?
[22:39] <sab_> BluesKaj, amarok
[22:39] <geoffb> tgp1994: ok, no worries... wait, I'm gonna go tell my wii to format a card and see what it does with it.... (hope it doesn't fry a card! lol)
[22:39] <tgp1994> geoffb: Heh
[22:39] <Curly_Q> Mount it as sddb   sddc   sdde etc.
[22:39] <nerdy_kid> should i use ext3 or ext4 for a backup drive?
[22:39] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: Really? Wait, should I just look in my dev folder for any four lettered drives?
[22:40] <melik> nerdy_kid: ext4
[22:40] <dogdogdog> melik, why not fat32?
[22:40] <nerdy_kid> melik ok thanks :)
[22:40] <histo> BlaDe^: I'm not finding anyone else withthe same problem. Perhaps someone else can provide some insight.
[22:40] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: Hmm... don't see any four lettered devices under sd**, or is it supposed to be not visible?
[22:41] <melik> dogdogdog: ext* has less data corruption, and i'm assuming he doesn't need a FS compatible with windows
[22:41] <sab_> BluesKaj, its give me massege like "connection failed" but my internet connection is good
[22:41] <BluesKaj> sab_, you may have a dependency problem ..libraries that you don't have that amarok needs. Make sure you have all the sources enabled in amarok , including 3rdparty software
[22:41] <Curly_Q> Good question. I like your inquisitiveness. Hidden might be it.
[22:41] <BlaDe^> histo it was running at 1.14 previously, but I played with the governors trying to set the max to 1.9 and i've buggered it completely
[22:41] <churl> what's it mean when i can't create a folder (file exist) and i can't remove it? (no such device or address)
[22:41] <BlaDe^> sometimes it used to run at 1.4 too... in perfomance.. was weird
[22:41] <geoffb> tgp1994:  how do I make the Wii format the card?
[22:42] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: Actually, I better go look up logical partitions :S I have no clue how this works.
[22:42] <BlaDe^> in the replies here: http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/11/04/enabling-cpu-frequency-scaling/
[22:42] <histo> BlaDe^: what where you playing with to change it?
[22:42] <BlaDe^> some people say they are stuck at 800MHz too
[22:42] <nerdy_kid> tgp1994 ahhh found it! its gnome-disk-utility -- they did rename it lol
[22:42] <tgp1994> geoffb: I believe in your settings menu, there's a card management section
[22:42] <BlaDe^> cpufreq-set -f/-d/-u
[22:42] <sab_> BluesKaj, i m new in linux(ubuntu)
[22:42] <tgp1994> nerdy_kid: Alright :D
[22:42] <sab_> BluesKaj, can you please tell me what to do on cli
[22:42] <vbgunz> are there any ppa available that have the 64 bit drivers for a canon mp250?
[22:42] <Curly_Q> Tgp1994 here: http://www.basicconfig.com/linux/linux_fdisk_command_check_hard_disk_partitions
[22:43] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: Alright, thanks.
[22:43] <histo> BlaDe^: thats also very old post
[22:43] <BlaDe^> yeah indeed
[22:43] <BluesKaj> sab_,sorry i meant to say : you may have a dependency problem ..libraries that you don't have that amarok needs. Make sure you have all the sources enabled in synaptic , including 3rdparty software
[22:43] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: Wait, that seems familiar :( Don't I want to figure out the device name first?
[22:44] <Curly_Q> Tgp1994, simply put, a LOGICAL PARTITION is just a separation of either a disk or drive that is totally isolated from each other partition.
[22:44] <histo> BlaDe^: I would start by returning it to defaults
[22:44] <BlaDe^> how do I do that?
[22:45] <KamaL> hello, i'm using ubuntu desktop and I wanna connect remotely through a VNC connection. Which is the best VNC server/client out there?????
[22:45] <magicianlord> eth0 and eht1 keep switching
[22:45] <histo> !best | KamaL
[22:45] <magicianlord> so that sometimes my wicd wont find the network until reboot
[22:45] <histo> !vino > KamaL
[22:45] <magicianlord> this is the question. what is your answer
[22:45] <histo> KamaL: vino i the default client
[22:45] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: Hmmmmmmmm... So that makes the drive mostly invisible... and the partitions as they are? But wait, is windows supposed to be able to recognize Logical partitions as is?
[22:46] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: And ls -a did not reveal any hidden devices with sd** :(
[22:46] <KamaL> no... you didn't get what I mean
[22:46] <KamaL> I wanna connect from my home windows PC to the remote ubuntu server running desktop
[22:46] <KamaL> i wanted to see what's the best way to connect
[22:47] <KamaL> right now i'm using ultraVNC - but find it limited
[22:47] <Curly_Q> Tgp1994, an other way to say it is that a LOGICAL PARTITION is basically seen by the OS as a SEPARATE hard drive. Does that make sense?
[22:47] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: I'm almost afraid that the card reader doesn't support SDHC cards :S Which would I guess make sense. The thing hardly fits, anyways.
[22:47] <geoffb> tgp1994: can't figure out how to format an SD card. my wii is refusing to use it until I put a partition on it already
[22:47] <histo> KamaL: whats limited about it?
[22:47] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: Ah, that does. And it always follows the naming scheme with four letters only?
[22:48] <histo> KamaL: and vino is the default server installed in ubuntu is what I was saying.
[22:48] <histo> KamaL: vino is a vnc server
[22:48] <BlaDe^> histo:  how do I reset to defaults?
[22:48] <tgp1994> geoffb: Interesting, could SanDisk have put some sort of bobby trapped partition on it?
[22:48] <KamaL> each time I run the vnc4server command so i can connect remotely
[22:48] <Curly_Q> Yes.  <______<   Tgp1994 has seen the light.   :)
[22:48] <histo> BlaDe^: you'd have to find otu what file its editing with your settings
[22:48] <KamaL> maybe the nxclient is better?
[22:48] <tgp1994> Curly_Q: :D
[22:48] <Curly_Q> lol
[22:48] <histo> BlaDe^: most likely somewhere in /etc
[22:49] <tgp1994> geoffb: Lemme look at my wii, and get back to you.
[22:49] <histo> KamaL: have you tried using the tight encoding
[22:49] <churl> Anyone know what it mean when i can't create a folder (file exist) and i can't remove it? (no such device or address)?
[22:49] <histo> KamaL: speeds things up quite a bit
[22:49] <chun2> Wonder if anyone can help -- when I try to play mp3s in totem, I get this error when it tries to download codecs: "No packages with the requested plugins found [MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder]"
[22:49] <KamaL> histo: u mean tightVNC?
[22:49] <histo> KamaL: no I mean tight encoding
[22:49] <BlaDe^> cpufreq.d probably histo
[22:49] <geoffb> tgp1994: I'm using an sdhc micro card... when the wii wouldn't partition it, I used linux / dd if=/dev/zero to wipe out the beginning of the card... Wii just said "nup, ain't touchin' that"
[22:50] <PrestonConnors> Hello, is there a way to have ifup / ifdown scripts NOT restart iSCSI on Ubuntu 9.10?
[22:50] <histo> KamaL: but tightvnc has it
[22:50] <magicianlord> you need the hp format utility
[22:50] <magicianlord> to restore usb key drives
[22:50] <histo> !vnc | KamaL
[22:50] <KamaL> i'm using this command
[22:50] <KamaL> tightvncserver -geometry 1366x768 -depth 24
[22:50] <KamaL> is it ok?
[22:50] <uchobby> Linux Newbe here, I have a fresh install of Unbuntu and do not have sound working. The PC was working with Windows, playing an MP3 to test with VLC and VLC seems to be playing but no sound. I tried all the jacks on the PC and did a check to see if a card was detected. I'm not sure but...
[22:51] <uchobby> cat /proc/asound/cards
[22:51] <uchobby>  0 [ICH            ]: NFORCE - Intel ICH
[22:51] <uchobby>                       Intel ICH with ALC655 at irq 23
[22:51] <histo> KamaL: yeah but your really dont' need a color depth of 24 do you for remote desktop?
[22:51] <histo> KamaL: also make sure your windows client is specifying tight encoding
[22:51] <bondiblueos9> is there any way to invoke cp or mv so that it tells you its progress?
[22:51] <KamaL> histo: done
[22:51] <tgp1994> geoffb: Actually I went to the settings menu, wii system settings, and then near the end of it there was a Format Wii System Memory, wish ironically does not format the system memory, but any SD** card inserted :P And I have SW version 4.0U, how about you?
[22:52] <zaxonspox> uchobby are you suer you havent muted in seetings?
[22:52] <histo> KamaL: is it still to slow then?
[22:52] <Curly_Q> I hoped that helped Tgp1994. I must go for now. Hope to see you again. If you see me again please let me know how things worked out. I hope everyone here has a nice day.
[22:52] <geoffb> tgp1994: (see my pm just now).... yes, I saw that... I didn't use it though! I'm using 4.2E
[22:52] <BluesKaj> uchobby, make sure the alsamixer ctrls in the terminal not Muted (M) and are craked to 75%  or better
[22:52] <histo> KamaL: i'm not really following what you mean by its limited?
[22:53] <sebp> hi, I tried to upload a package to my ppa, but if I run dput I get: Please select a .changes file to upload. Tried to upload: build
[22:53] <tgp1994> Darn, all the wii helpers are leaving :P
[22:53] <apparle> how to use uint8_t types in gcc?
[22:53] <tgp1994> C y'all.
[22:53] <uchobby> I tried turning up the volume on ever setting in alsamixer
[22:53] <sebp> though I provide the .changes file
[22:53] <HelloKitten> Hey, complete newb here.. Trying to figure out why a startup script doesn't work... Wondering what the different is between #!/bin/sh  and #!/bin/bash  at the beg of a script?
[22:53] <HelloKitten> difference*
[22:53] <magicianlord> what is the best utility to format usb drives?
[22:53] <zaxonspox> bondiblueos9  with dd i was able to "kill" it from other terminal to get info like this sudo kill -USR1 <pid_here>
[22:54]  * kost{a}s_thess is away: Gone away for now
[22:54] <magicianlord> where you can just type "format d: /fat32"
[22:54] <histo> HelloKitten: you're specifying what shell you want to use.
[22:54] <zaxonspox> bondiblueos9 but not sure if it works for cp / mv
[22:54] <histo> HelloKitten: can you pastebin your script
[22:54] <HelloKitten> Either way, the file runs on startup -- The first line is an echo to a file. The problem i'm having is with the command afterwards. It doesn't seem to be running
[22:54] <magicianlord> that's what i want, homiies
[22:54] <KamaL> histo: what's a good color depth?
[22:54] <KamaL> 16 is enough?
[22:54] <histo> KamaL: sure.
[22:54] <HelloKitten> Such as wget
[22:54] <capleton> magicianlord, depends what you are trying to format for, gparted is the best in general, unetbootin is good if you want to install another distro via usb
[22:54]  * kostas_thess is back.
[22:55] <histo> KamaL: you can also try freenx everything is free so there's really no trouble from tryign different ones
[22:55] <histo> !freenx > KamaL
[22:55] <magicianlord> i have used gparted, but i want a command lnie utility only. i understand that parted works as well, but does it require specification of cylinders and such?
[22:55] <capleton> hi all, I'm still pretty new to arch, anyway i'm using e17, and I had gotten the wireless working last night, but now my wireless no longer works, i get two "ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA]: Invalid argument" errors.  I am using the rtl8191seVA1 driver on an asus 1201n.  Does nayone know how to fix this???
[22:55] <histo> !paste > HelloKitten
[22:55] <geoffb> tgp1994: my wii was happy to look at the SD card once I fdisked it and put a fat16 partition on it.... (fdisk /dev/sd?, create new partition, type '6', write) (mkdosfs -F 16 /dev/sd?). You hsould, I suggest, try to figure out if the SD card is good... if linux isn't finding it, I'm gonna ask questions about the card itself. It's not uncommon for those to die
[22:55] <tgp1994> magicianlord: Maybe you might like fparted, isn't that gui?
[22:55] <zaxonspox> HelloKitten wget dont work? what you want to donwload with it? does the link is right?
[22:55] <magicianlord> fparted? havent tried it
[22:55] <histo> capleton: maybe you should ask in an arch linux room
[22:56] <magicianlord> i just need to be able to format drives
[22:56] <histo> tgp1994: gparted is the gui
[22:56] <KamaL> histo: any advantage over tightvnc?
[22:56] <tgp1994> geoffb: Alright. (I still don't think it's dead since the HB channel can still read files off of it.)
[22:56] <magicianlord> and in case an image is written, restore them to max capacity, like the hp format utility on windows
[22:56] <tgp1994> histo: I was kind of meaning like terminal-gui-ish.
[22:56] <histo> magicianlord: no you don't have to specify cylanders
[22:56] <histo> magicianlord: there is also cfdisk
[22:56] <tgp1994> histo: I know there is some sort of parted program that has a gui-ish look to it, but in the terminal.
[22:56] <histo> tgp1994: ahh
[22:56] <magicianlord> cfdisk is part of my distro
[22:56] <tgp1994> histo: Ya, that's the ticket.
[22:57] <magicianlord> is that safe to use?
[22:57] <tgp1994> magicianlord: If you know what you're doin :)
[22:57] <histo> magicianlord: safe to use for what?
[22:57] <tgp1994> Heh
[22:57] <magicianlord> for formatt drives, without blowing up your system partitino
[22:57] <magicianlord> formatting
[22:57] <magicianlord> i am very scared of scerwing up my install
[22:57] <tgp1994> magicianlord: Hmm... might want to try VMWare. Or openbox.
[22:57] <magicianlord> what
[22:58] <wyclif___> magicianlord: safe as milk
[22:58] <magicianlord> im using openbox
[22:58] <magicianlord> i mean a format utility
[22:58] <magicianlord> ill stick with cfdisk and learn it hten
[22:58] <tgp1994> magicianlord: They're both Virtual Machine "hosts" I suppose, very safe. they don't touch your HD in terms of partiting.
[22:58] <magicianlord> thanks, homie
[22:58] <KamaL> histo: thx for the help :)
[22:58] <histo> magicianlord: I'm not sure if you can format with cfdisk
[22:58] <tgp1994> *partioning
[22:58] <histo> KamaL: np
[22:58] <magicianlord> ok
[22:58] <magicianlord> is there one utility to format and partition?
[22:59] <HelloKitten> http://paste.ubuntu.com/413948/ - The contents of my loader file
[22:59] <magicianlord> im looking for hte equivalent to what windows does
[22:59] <tgp1994> magicianlord: You can format a partition if that's what you mean :)
[22:59] <tgp1994> magicianlord: You mean right clicking on the usb disk and stuff?
[22:59] <magicianlord> dude
[22:59] <HelloKitten> The command s3cmd is installed and functional outside of that script
[22:59] <histo> magicianlord: you can use parted to format but its kind of confusin if you are new.
[23:00] <churl> what's it mean when i can't create a folder (file exist) and i can't remove it? (no such device or address)
[23:00] <histo> magicianlord: there are plenty of utilities
[23:00] <BlaDe^> histo:  i'll try 10.04 see if that fixes it
[23:00] <magicianlord> i mean just taking a new usb drive, remove all partitions, repartitiong to one or more partitions, and then formatting then individually. if i want to do all those steps, i need a utility that allows it in a few seconds
[23:00] <histo> magicianlord: do you want a console based one or a GUI one
[23:00] <tgp1994> Ya, and there is a linux based distro called partition magic, but pointless to get if you already have gparted.
[23:00] <BlaDe^> I have nothing to lose
[23:00] <magicianlord> console based
[23:00] <rlameiro> hy, testing beta, How do i map a keyboard shortcut to change my keyboard layout? on lucid, karmic worked fine....
[23:00] <histo> magicianlord: like text based right?
[23:00] <wyclif___> magicianlord: there are plenty of linux utilities for that, do a search
[23:00] <magicianlord> yes
[23:00] <magicianlord> text based
[23:00] <magicianlord> terminal
[23:01] <histo> magicianlord: well your default isntall has cfdisk for partitioning and mkfs for formating
[23:01] <magicianlord> i use term for everything unless i need to view the internet
[23:01] <magicianlord> oh ok
[23:01] <magicianlord> i will man those
[23:02] <wyclif___> Mr Rogers uses BitchX, shouldn't you?
[23:02] <magicianlord> mr rogers also visits courtasans
[23:02] <kermit> why is my firefox-3.5 updates being 'held back' ?
[23:02] <rlameiro> How do i map a keyboard shortcut to change my keyboard layout? on lucid, karmic worked fine....
[23:02] <histo> magicianlord: you can w3m for a browser in term
[23:02] <magicianlord> thanks
[23:02] <magicianlord> i use firefox though
[23:02] <histo> magicianlord: or links elinks etc.. there are plenty of term based browsers
[23:02] <magicianlord> happy with that. not that of a purist
[23:02] <magicianlord> yes
[23:02] <histo> !who | magicianlord
[23:03] <magicianlord> lol
[23:04] <magicianlord> what is the command to list file systems
[23:04] <wyclif___> magicianlord: ls
[23:05] <rlameiro> fdisk -l
[23:05] <magicianlord> no, file systems. not list files
[23:05] <magicianlord> ok
[23:05] <Miro_> hola :)
[23:05] <magicianlord> rlameiro: that didnt work
[23:06] <magicianlord> rlameiro: run in root?
[23:06] <rlameiro> magicianlord: you need to give the disk
[23:06] <magicianlord> ok
[23:06] <rlameiro> fdisk -l /dev/hda1 for example
[23:06] <wyclif___> magiclord: df
[23:07] <wyclif___> magiclord: actually df-k will work wonders
[23:07] <magicianlord> i did /dev/sda1 and get msg cannot open etc
[23:07] <rlameiro> yeah
[23:07] <rlameiro> weird
[23:07] <wyclif___> magicianlord: sorry, I meant df -k
[23:07] <magicianlord> wyclif___: can i trust you
[23:07] <rlameiro> it should work
[23:07] <magicianlord> ok
[23:07] <wyclif___> magicianlord: ? look it up if in doubt
[23:07] <rlameiro> magicianlord: yes you can trust him
[23:08] <magicianlord> ok thanks. dk works
[23:08] <wyclif___> magicianlord: it's a simple utility, can't harm your filesystem, just displays and prints it
[23:09] <lil_cain> anyone got a realtek 8192 wireless network adapter running under 10.04?
[23:09] <rlameiro> How do i map a keyboard shortcut to change my keyboard layout? on lucid, karmic worked fine....
[23:09] <Miro_> anyone uses awesome wm?
[23:09] <spongebob> Evening All :)
[23:09] <spongebob> I have a program I run that im trying to automate
[23:09] <wyclif___> spongebob: Howdy
[23:09] <spongebob> There's a batch mode and everything is working 100%
[23:10] <spongebob> however, I need to "inject" the password into the "password:" command that comes up when I run the program
[23:10] <magicianlord> df works, but the drives have to be clicked in thunar to mount first and they only list partitions
[23:10] <spongebob>  /bin/someprogram < "passwordhere" - I was hoping that would work, any ideas?
[23:10] <magicianlord> i suppose i can also use truecrypt to view them all
[23:13] <alket> I have ATI Radeon x700 drivres so games like Glest and Yo Frankie are slow. But there is another framework beside blender in Yo Frankie, its Crystal Framework. Do you think that it will run faster ?
[23:13] <alket> P.S. Games like Open Arena and  Urban Terror work fine
[23:17] <Myrtti> !lucid | lil_cain
[23:17] <magicianlord> the best games on linux use zsnes
[23:17] <magicianlord> all you need
[23:18] <lil_cain> Myrtti: Ah, fair enough.
[23:19] <chun2> Wonder if anyone can help -- when I try to play mp3s in totem, I get this error when it tries to download codecs: "No packages with the requested plugins found [MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder]"
[23:19] <rlameiro> chun2: maybe you need to enable the partner repository
[23:19] <rlameiro> or install it by hand
[23:20] <magicianlord> chun2: install vlc
[23:20] <chun2> rlameiro: it's enabled, magicianlord: vlc is installed, also gives an error (one sec)
[23:20] <tatsel> magicianlord: hum/
[23:20] <magicianlord> wut
[23:21] <chun2> " No suitable decoder module: VLC does not support the audio or video format "mpga". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this. "
[23:21] <tatsel> it's just that maybe rhe user wants to keep using totem
[23:21] <tatsel> the*
[23:21] <chun2> I don't particularly want totem, but I can't play mp3s with anything
[23:22] <rlameiro> chun2: maybe you dont have a mp3....
[23:22] <acicula> have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras chun2 ?
[23:22] <tatsel> chun2: bad metadata on the mp3 file/ not a mp3
[23:22] <chun2> happy to install it by hand, just not sure what package I need...
[23:22] <chun2> acicula: yep
[23:22] <|littlebear|> chun2: um.. get restricted-extra
[23:22] <magicianlord> i dont like totem at all
[23:22] <chun2> tatsel: tried multiple mp3s
[23:22] <switch10> any alternatives to "portable linux" that will work with grub2??
[23:22] <magicianlord> ive always preferred vlc for all music and video formats
[23:22] <tatsel> chun2: strange
[23:22] <chun2> |littlebear|: already done
[23:23] <acicula> chun2: tried playing the mp3's with mplayer?
[23:23] <histo> chun2: totem should prompt you for codec for mp3's
[23:23] <HelloKitten> Hey folks, I have a script loading up at runtime but it doesn't appear as though the command is working, despite the fact that when I copy the exact same line into my command line it runs
[23:23] <chun2> "mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libdvdread.so.4: file too short"
[23:23] <histo> chun2: if you double click on an mp3 whatever the default player is in ubuntu should ask if youw ant to dl the codecs
[23:23] <histo> !dvd | chun2
[23:24] <HelloKitten> and the runtime script also loads, using an echo to test this
[23:24] <liminal> hi
[23:24] <histo> HelloKitten: can you please pastebin your script
[23:24] <histo> !paste | HelloKitten
[23:24] <liminal> im trying to run iwlist power command on my networkcard
[23:24] <chun2> histo: yep totem does, that's my original problem: "No packages with the requested plugins found [MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder]"
[23:24] <liminal> but it says its not supported
[23:24] <liminal> anyone know why its not working
[23:24] <acicula> iwlist needs an interface as argument first
[23:24] <switch10> HelloKitten: make sure you are not using any options that would need to output somewhere, like -v, --progress --stats, etc, unless you set up a log..
[23:25] <HelloKitten> http://paste.ubuntu.com/413949/
[23:25] <histo> liminal: run it as sudo
[23:25] <HelloKitten> So the s3cmd doesn't seem to be functioning, despite the fact that the line runs without fault when i copy and paste it
[23:26] <tatsel>  <magicianlord> ive always preferred vlc for all music and video formats    your preferences should not interfere
[23:26] <alex_under08> hi
[23:26] <tatsel> :p
[23:26] <nimbiotics> good evening evry1
[23:26] <alex_under08> how can I join the php channel?
[23:26] <tatsel> 'evening/hi
[23:26] <acicula>  alex_under08 /join #php
[23:26] <histo> HelloKitten: maybe because its trying to write in a folder owned by root?
[23:26] <tatsel> ^
[23:26] <liminal> histo i was running it was sudo
[23:27] <HelloKitten> histo, why would that be a problem for a script running init.d ?
[23:27] <alex_under08> acicula  I already tried
[23:27] <histo> liminal: iwlist power should list all devices and show the current mode for yoru wifi card
[23:27] <nimbiotics> im a complete noob and need help installing wine
[23:27] <alex_under08> acicula neither #php, nor ##php works for me
[23:27] <HelloKitten> Histo, to rephrase, doesn't this run as root due to it being a runtime script
[23:27] <tatsel> alex_under08: maybe you are banned
[23:28] <wyclif___> nimbiotics: don't worry, that's not difficult
[23:28] <tatsel> look at your server window/tab
[23:28] <histo> HelloKitten: how are you calling the script
[23:28] <acicula> alex_under08: you need to register first probably before you can join that channel
[23:28] <alex_under08> tatsel that's impossible :D
[23:28] <tatsel> meh, my touch screen is freezing
[23:28] <lilleman> How do I do auto login on a command line system? I have googled and tried things but cant get it to work :S
[23:28] <alex_under08> acicula I registered, no use
[23:28] <acicula> !register > alex_under08
[23:28] <alex_under08> :(
[23:29] <histo> lilleman: type in yoru user name and password
[23:29] <rexn> Hey all. Does anyone know of a solid ftp daemon with a decent GUI front end for group and account management?
[23:29] <lilleman> histo: tnx, will try :)
[23:29] <histo> lilleman: username goes where it says login:  (username)  then hit enter
[23:29] <blizzkid> Hi ppl, when packaging, in a control/rules file is it possible to have another package removed? "Conflicts" only indicates it conflicts apparently?
[23:29] <jamil_1> I am trying to compile a module, When I execute: insmode ./hell.ko I get error: insmod: error inserting './hell.ko': -1 File exists
[23:29] <HelloKitten> Histo, i made a runtime association to the file: update-rc.d -f initialize start 99 2 3 4 5 .
[23:29] <acicula> !ftpd
[23:29] <histo> lilleman: then it will prompt for password
[23:29] <tatsel> lilleman: is it even doable?
[23:29] <alex_under08> !ftp
[23:29] <lilleman> histo: ah, no. I mean AUTO, as in Power on->loggedin to a tty
[23:29] <alex_under08> !GNOME
[23:30] <nimbiotics> wyclif: i tried the software center and it didnt work, then tried sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa and its telling me it cant find /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:30] <lilleman> tatsel: Says so here and there on the net :)
[23:30] <histo> lilleman: you need to use minegetty or something
[23:30] <HelloKitten> Histo, it is writing to root without a problem, as the first line WORKS (the echo to file WORKS)
[23:30] <histo> lilleman: let me find you a good link
[23:30] <tatsel> You need to use a password-free account then
[23:30] <alex_under08> does anyone know basic php, here ? like simple tasks as connecting to a database or so ?
[23:30] <histo> tatsel: no you do not
[23:30] <lilleman> histo: yeah, I've tried. But /etc/inittab doesnt exist on ubuntu as it should... and I cant get NO_PASSWORD_CONSOLE to work either
[23:30] <tatsel> which ic bad
[23:30] <lilleman> tatsel: oh, thats good! *googling*
[23:31] <rexn> Thx acicaula, ubotta!
[23:31] <lilleman> alex_under08: yes :)
[23:31] <nimbiotics> wyclif: i tried the software center and it didnt work, then tried sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa and its telling me it cant find /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:31] <alex_under08> lilleman I tried to make a little script
[23:31] <histo> lilleman: you don't need a password free account
[23:32] <rlameiro> How do i map a keyboard shortcut to change my keyboard layout? on lucid, karmic worked fine....
[23:32] <alex_under08> lilleman but, I don't know it dosen't do nothing, not even the basic printf command from the beggining
[23:32] <histo> lilleman: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2010/01/01/enable-automatic-login-in-ubuntu-9-10-server/
[23:32] <tatsel> alex_under08:
[23:32] <tatsel>  <tatsel> I came across a user that claims being unable to join this channel
 <Tucos> tatsel: make him register and identify
[23:33] <histo> HelloKitten: I don't know enough about upstart yet to really help with this one. I'm sure someone else will
[23:33] <histo> tatsel: is he banned?
[23:33] <HelloKitten> Thanks anyway!  Thanks
[23:33] <diesel118> hi all does any one no how to install a DECnet moduel
[23:34] <nimbiotics> im a complete noob and need help installing wine
[23:34] <histo> !who | lilleman
[23:34] <tatsel> alex_under08: try again, they said
[23:34] <DJ_HaMsTa> sudo apt-get install wine
[23:35] <HelloKitten> Anyone know a thing or to about initilizing scripts on startup?  Having an issue here I can't seem to resolve.
[23:35] <diesel118> nimbiotics apt-get install wine
[23:35] <HelloKitten> two*
[23:35] <diesel118> hi all does any one no how to install a DECnet moduel
[23:35] <tatsel> alex_under08: services says you are NOT identified
[23:35] <nimbiotics> diesel118=> im geting errors stating it cant find /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:35] <acicula> diesel118: load via modprobe using sudo?
[23:35] <tatsel> alex_under08: Check your mail -.-
[23:36] <tatsel> alex_under08: you haven't onfirmed
[23:36] <Vincencik> hi anyone know how can i fix the problem with compiz (for example slow minimize and maximize) ? Ubuntu 9.10, the video card is ATI Radeon HD3470. Is there any "HOW TO" in the web ? pls help
[23:36] <HelloKitten> I have a script that runs on startup by creating an association to the file using "update-rc.d -f initialize start 99 2 3 4 5 ."  The file is recognized, as the first line successfully echos to a file. The next line however, doesn't seem to be running despite the fact that the very same line can run without issues if I copy it straight to the shell (Script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/413949/ )
[23:36] <alex_under08> tatsel tanks mate
[23:37] <alex_under08> tatsel I'm one big dumbass :))
[23:37] <tatsel> :)
[23:37] <tatsel> alex_under08: we all was at some time.
[23:37] <diesel118> yea but how do you install it
[23:38] <nimbiotics> diesel118=> as instructed in their site "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa"
[23:38] <trying_hard> wow channel is huge , tried listing all but even larger . is the a chan for beginners or for help ? , i understand you are all busy
[23:38] <KamaL> is there any WINE channel here?
[23:39] <diesel118> im not after installing wine i need to install DECnet moduel
[23:39] <nimbiotics> im a complete noob with linux  and need help installing wine, im geting erros...
[23:40] <alex_under08> nimbiotics
[23:40] <tatsel> KamaL: #winehq
[23:40] <diesel118> http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[23:40] <nimbiotics> alex=>here
[23:40] <alex_under08> nimbiotics I think on ubuntu it's sudo apt-get install wine
[23:41] <tatsel> alex_under08: you confirmed?
[23:41] <tatsel> try joining after
[23:41] <nimbiotics> alex->trying
[23:41] <heg> HelloKitten: Have you tried running this script in a terminal?
[23:41] <KamaL> tatsel: thx ;)
[23:42] <tatsel> np
[23:42] <HelloKitten> Yes heg, the script runs flawlessely
[23:42] <nimbiotics> alex=> geeting dif err msg "wine depends on wine1.2 but it is not going to be installed"
[23:42] <tatsel> :o
[23:43] <alex_under08> nimbiotics wine depends on wine1.2 ?
[23:43] <obiwan_> hi people
[23:43] <nimbiotics> alex=> yup, thats what im geting...
[23:44] <soreau> Vincencik: It's supposedly fixed in more recent versions of the proprietary fglrx driver. The good news however is that the open radeon driver now has 3D support for your card without installing the blob
[23:44] <heg> HelloKitten: tested line by line or with sudo /etc/init.d/your_script
[23:44] <soreau> Vincencik: The radeon driver should work with 3D OOTB with Lucid
[23:44] <HelloKitten> line by line..
[23:45] <HelloKitten> when i sudo /etc/... it runs
[23:45] <heg> HelloKitten: and what gives sudo /etc/init.d/your_script
[23:45] <HelloKitten> it outputs everything
[23:45] <nimbiotics> alex_under08=> yup, thats what im geting...
[23:45] <nimbiotics> alex_under08=> any ideas?
[23:46] <alex_under08> nimbitics
[23:46] <alex_under08> nimbiotics do you have synaptic?
[23:46] <nimbiotics> alex_under08=> not sure, dnt even know what it is
[23:47] <nimbiotics> alex_under08=> where or how would i find it?
[23:47] <heg> HelloKitten: output only or you got the file?
[23:47] <obiwan_> do you know if some file tagging standard is going on?
[23:47] <HelloKitten> output and files
[23:47] <histo> nimbiotics: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[23:48] <soreau> HelloKitten: Perhaps the issue is because the script is being run from different environments
[23:48] <HelloKitten> What do you mean by that?
[23:48] <obiwan_> i know there are some projects for ubuntu and more or less linux in general. but i mean, is there any tag standard cross system ? i mean, working in windows, linux, and everything
[23:48] <histo> !info wine | nimbiotics
[23:48] <nimbiotics> alex_under08=> got it, now i c win, & wine 1.2
[23:49] <ipmsteven> hi
[23:49] <histo> nimbiotics: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[23:49] <obiwan_> why did they call it wine if it's an emulator? lol xD
[23:49] <nimbiotics> histo=> im reading u 2 histo, will try synaptic now
[23:49] <ipmsteven> 9.10
[23:49] <obiwan_> they state it isn't hehe
[23:49] <histo> obiwan_: its not an emulator
[23:49] <zvacet> how can I integrate pacpl in amarok I ask same question per days with no response can someone give me  a hand
[23:49] <obiwan_> histo: so who says microsoft windows compatiblity layer (binary emulator and library)?
[23:50] <histo> nimbiotics: als check in System > Administration > Software Sources and make sure universe is enabled
[23:50] <quidnunc> How do I print a "PJL job" file
[23:50] <quidnunc> ?
[23:50] <nimbiotics> alex_under08 & histo=> working on it, plz gimme a minute
[23:50] <Bizzeh> hi, can someone point out a decent php/html editor with syntax highlighting? and possibly live preview.. something like expression web or dreamweaver
[23:50] <HelloKitten> =(
[23:51] <jsec> Bizzeh, Kompozer isn't bad...
[23:51] <doctorZeus> I have an intel rig running a c2duo e6850.  As far as I know it's all x86 and 32-bit.  I wanted to beef up to 8gb but understand I need to add a PAE mod or load 64-bit ubuntu.  I'd rather run everything in 64-bit.  Should I expect any problems?
[23:51] <heg> HelloKitten: like histo, I don't know enough about upstart. May be it's the priority you gave the script
[23:51] <HelloKitten> hmm.. From my understanding it was positioned nearly last
[23:52] <HelloKitten> the 99 in update-rc
[23:52] <heg> HelloKitten: yes i know
[23:52] <nimbiotics> alex_under08 / histo=> trying 2 use synaptyc, but any time i click on 1 of the wine packages it tells me it need something else thats either not 2 b installed or not installable...
[23:52] <doctorZeus> have read some mixed reviews but mostly positive that I should be able to run 64bit Ubuntu (or any o/s) without issues but nothing really elaborates, just that it should be ok
[23:54] <histo> nimbiotics: What version of ubuntu are you using?
[23:54] <nimbiotics> histo=> 9.10
[23:54] <histo> doctorZeus: yes its fine
[23:54] <histo> nimbiotics: click on Systme > Admin > Software Sources
[23:55] <histo> nimbiotics: make sure that universe is checkboxed
[23:55] <kermit> why is my firefox-3.5 updates being 'held back' ?
[23:55] <nimbiotics> histo=>done
[23:55] <histo> nimbiotics: was it unchecked before?
[23:56] <nimbiotics> histo=>yes it was unchecked
[23:57] <Bizzeh> whats a decent c/c++ ide also? tried kdevelop, but its project management and debugging are both shit
[23:57] <histo> nimbiotics: okay now you should be able to just sudo apt-get install wine in a terminal or you can use Applications > add/remove programs to install the wine package.
[23:57] <histo> nimbiotics: or synaptic
[23:57] <bastid_raZor> kermit: apt-get dist-upgrade will pull the held back packages.. normally
[23:57] <histo> nimbiotics: the issue was the repository where wine is located wasn't enabled
[23:57] <nimbiotics> histo=> k, thx, will try and bb
[23:57] <histo> !language > Bizzeh
[23:58] <Gun_Smoke> Which service is responsible for the "Ubuntu One" sync's? I'd like to restart it.
[23:58] <jsec> Bizzeh, CodeBlocks
[23:58] <tripelb> re fonts. I would like to look at some avant-guarde font examples that will work in ubuntu. where do I find these? -- some community doc page says I need to add the universe and some other repository, the pae on how to add them does not show that and synaptic wants a complete apt-get terminal line so AS USUAL just use terminal. If I only knew how.  ((the system that's a project and not just to use))
[23:58] <Gino> hi guys im new to this OS (havent yet installed it and i could use some help)
[23:59] <Gino> anyone care to help me out? =)
[23:59] <jsec> !ask | Gino
[23:59] <tripelb> gino read the documents. It works. Then come here with your problems.
[23:59] <kfarrell> hello, I created a RAID array using disk utility in 10.4, but it doesn't start at boot. Can anyone advise me how to get the array to start at boot (it's mounting as /home)?
[23:59] <histo> !rtfm > tripelb